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Hey Moe Factz with Adam curry
for September 16 2019, episode

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number seven to American dudes
talking it up. Moe how are you?

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I'm doing good how you know,
Adam,

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I'm doing real good. You know,
it's Monday once again, that

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means Moe Factz around these
parts of Austin.

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Yes. Um, and as you know, the
song goes more money, more

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problems.

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That's right. Yes, although I
you know, being an old guy is

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like, I just keep hearing Diana
Ross. I don't hear anything

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else. You know. I saw her in the
round when I was 15.

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That's, that's pretty amazing.
And that's what this show is all

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about. It's perspective. You can
hear the same thing and see it

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two different ways. Because when
I hear that I hear that

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Notorious BIG more money, more
problems digs. So. So speaking

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of which, more money, more
problems we've spoken, the last

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show about families and people
not in not wanting to have

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families that have difficulty
that haven't families in these

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times. Right. So as that show
ended, beginning of the prop,

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maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, I got
an interesting email from a

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friend. And the title of the
article was this budget shows

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how $350,000 salary, I'm barely
qualifies as middle class. Yes.

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I actually saw that a few days
ago. And I thought to myself, No

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wonder I'm struggling. But this
is if if you want to live in a

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city or just in general,

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I think in there, it was like
cities such as New York City,

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San Francisco, you know, the
major hubs. But I think this

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speaks to last show while
families. This article spoke

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about a family of four, two
working parents making, you

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know, combined salary of
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end, if you lived up to it, this
goes to the thing that we talked

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about, you know, having the
house and the cars and yeah,

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picket fence and the trips to
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Yes. It's what we all want.
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live that today, at the end of
the month, I believe you will

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have $121 cash flow.

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Oh, man, my vape budget is more
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You pay for everything. So

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now who? Who did this? Who put
this study together? Who was the

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genius?

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This was published on CNBC and
num numbers according to the US

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Census Bureau. And this was all
messy the website was

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well this is a you sent me a
link from MSN but I think the

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maybe the British

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give me yeah, yes. So it was
written by Sean Lang Lang los

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Louis Lang. Lang, law, something
like that. Yeah, language might

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be French here. So as we see
more money, more problems, and

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that kind of explains, puts the
button on what we talked about

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last show. So but as we see
moving forward, and today's

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show, we're gonna talk about how
money can more money can cause

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more problems. So how's that
great. Twitter feed a lot going

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for it? I want to test it out.

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To be very honest, I was in we
were away this weekend. We were

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in Las Vegas. Went to see Bruno
Mars. So I really haven't been

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looking too much at the great
Twitter, but I'm keeping up Moe

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You know me I'm keeping up.

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Okay, so for those out there who
don't have the you know, the

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privilege of having a great,
great Black Twitter line. Oh,

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timeline, there was a beef.
Black Lives Matter beef to be

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more specific. But sweet one
Shaun King and one DeRay

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Mckesson?

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Very
long medium article that was

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written about this.

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Yes, there was a long medium,
medium article written by DeRay

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Mckesson. And just as of this
morning, there was a quote

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unquote, I hate this word, clap
back. Wash our king with an even

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longer, medium article, and
we're gonna get into that but

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let's start off with the
background or

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greetings and salutations. I'm
Christopher Platt, reporting for

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your Black World News with an
article from news one, Shaun

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King and D Ray McKesson once
worked closely together, but had

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an epic falling out that played
out on Twitter years ago. Like

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most social media feuds, it was
hard to tell who was right or

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wrong, but people still took
sides Since then, they've really

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mentioned each other until now,
McKesson wrote a scathing and

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long piece on King in a piece
for medium. McKesson goes on and

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on about how he trusted King
believed in his work, but then

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noticed dismissiveness and bad
communication. He then implies

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King stole money from Justice
together where McKesson was a

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board member at one point and
said to date, it's not clear

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that Shawn filed the appropriate
taxes for justice together, as

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there's no 990 Form available
for public review from the IRS

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website. He also slammed Shawn
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claiming it was not independent.
McKesson also alleged that king

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did not raise millions and that
he took credit for other

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people's work. He takes credit
for 100% of all funds raised for

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any fundraiser, whose link he
has ever posted online in an

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email blast or retweeted.
McKesson also referenced the

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Clarissa Brooks incident, where
King demanded an apology after

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she reportedly said that he
stole or spent money that was

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raised for sin, Toya Brown,
which King claimed he never

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raised money for. McKesson cites
a bunch of failed projects from

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King. Basically, McKesson
believes King is a fraud.

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You know, you could put this on
shortwave radio and it would

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sound really cool. News.

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So this is our this was a from
the YouTube news, news one. And

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if you're asking who news one is
that is sponsored by Radio One,

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which is founded by Miss Cathy
Hughes. And that's going to be

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important later. But let's get
in. So just a little background.

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These two came up through the
Black Lives Matter Ferguson

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event with the shooting of
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they became into public light.
So from there D Ray has felt

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like he's been pushed to the
side while Shaun King has no

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become like a you know a
shooting star he I mean, he's

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he's like the the creme de la
creme of woke ism was he

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was he one of the people who met
with Hillary Clinton during the

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2016 election. They had that
kind of backstage meeting, if

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you recall,

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which which one DeRay Mckesson
or Shaun King. I'm not sure I

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know D Ray was there but I'm not
sure. All right. And for people

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for people to know, Sean, I
mean, D Ray was the bigger star

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starting out the blue vest. He
know he was a really huge star.

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But let's go on to the second
clip.

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Kings been defending his name
for weeks after Rihanna

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announced she would honor the
Morehouse man at an upcoming

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award ceremony. Social media
went ham and demanded that she

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reconsider. In response, King
released a 72 page report of

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quote, Every single penny I've
ever raised in quote, since

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Black Lives Matter began. The
documents were compiled and

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authored in part by people like
Tamika Mallory, co chair of the

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Women's March and co founder of
Justice League NYC, and civil

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rights attorney Lee Merritt. The
report focused on fundraisers

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that King promote it through his
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provided what King said was a
full accounting of his financial

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relationship with real justice
Pac and action pack, along with

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five years of his tax returns.

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Now hold on a second. You know,
for every type of entity, if

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it's a PAC, if it's a nonprofit,
there's forms you got to fill

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out for taxes that I think have
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there's some other entity that
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That is correct. And like you
said, he led he put out a 72

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page report stating how the how
the money was spent, and even

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heard him brought up the Justice
pack the real justice pack, so I

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did a little homework. Whenever
I hear pack I hear money I start

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following the paper trail. So
the real justice pack is funded

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by carry tuna and justice. Mas
moszkowicz. No. Mo SPO. Mas VA

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Mackiewicz. Yes. Are you
familiar with him?

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No, I'm in fact this is this is
the most names I've ever heard

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in this show who I have no clue
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So Dustin, Moscow, Moscow. I
can't say it, Moscow for which

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is one of the founders of
Facebook. almost $2 million into

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this real justice pack. So
shocking is backed by Facebook

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money to the tune of 2 million
dollars and I found it funny

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that the money is registered
under carry tuna and not under

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there. They have a nonprofit
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money under, but it was like an
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I thought that was funny how
they kind of like Tron, in my

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honest opinion amassed the
money. You know, when you see

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Carrie tuna, that doesn't ring a
bell, but when I start digging

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who she was, I found out who she
married to. And then the

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connection with Facebook. So

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okay. It is Dustin, Dustin
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Yeah, that's it. That's the guy.
Okay, got it.

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So, that just struck me as
weird. I mean, you guys have a

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nonprofit they took the PAC
with, with Bill Gates and Warren

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Buffett to spend all their money
donate all their money in their

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lifetime.

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Yeah, this is the giving pledge
that you will give away. At

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least I think it's half of your
fortune in your lifetime, but

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the idea is to spend all of it.

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Right. But as you hear in this
piece from the news, Warren,

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which is a product of Radio One,
they're very friendly and

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protective of Shaun King. They
really didn't get into the

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Article of the accusation DeRay
Mckesson made, it was more to

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the defense of Shaun King and
that's going to be very

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important to remember this valve
that away. Why? We'll see later

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on and you know, in my
presentation, but let's go to

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In addition, King said the
authors of the fundraising

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report had unlimited access to
his and his family's checking

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accounts, savings accounts,
credit cards, retirement

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accounts and money management
software. I've helped raise over

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34 point 5 million for families,
charities, causes and campaigns

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King tweeted Tuesday morning, a
seven person expert review board

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inspected every penny, including
the past five years of my tax

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returns. There's 72 page report.
In addition, the families of Nia

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Wilson Philando Castile,
Terrence Crutcher and multiple

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other people killed in recent
years vouched for King, the

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family of both them John, the
man who was killed by Dallas

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police officer Amber Geiger a
year ago this Friday had nothing

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but glowing words for King. We
have had the pleasure of

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interacting with Shaun king in
the months following Bolton's

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murder, John's family wrote,
Sean has become more than

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another voice for our family.
He's become our friend. He's

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advocated for the John family
spoke up for us, dried our tears

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and held our hands. We're
grateful for his support, as are

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many other families who have met
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Well, what this tells me is
don't mess with this guy because

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the dead are speaking on his
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Also, um, if you notice, it's
one of those things where Al

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Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, you
call Shaun king, he gets the

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money. And we're gonna see, I
think later in on the

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presentation, we're gonna say he
raised over like, maybe $30

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million. Wow, on behalf of
families and organizations. But

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before we move forward, you
know, we always, as I always

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like to do we have to go
backwards before we can go

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forward. So, Adam, I'm going to
test your memory a little bit.

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Why? Why was what was the
purpose of Black Lives Matter?

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Who was it? Who was it set aside
to protect your opinion? In my

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opinion, black lives matter was
set up particularly to bring

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attention to police brutality
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Specifically, black males,
correct? Because that's who the

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majority of the victims were.

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Yes, yeah. I would not have
specified it as such. But yeah,

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yes, sure.

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And this has been the argument
just I mean, from my

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perspective, I didn't want to,
you know, put words into your

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mouth. But the perspective were
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Matter trending on, on social
media, it was kind of like they

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were using the plight of the
black male being gunned down by

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police with your hands up. Um,
you know, you know, to bring

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attention to that. But let's
listen to I found a great

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interview with the three three
creators of Black Lives Matters.

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Alicia got on Garza. Patrisse
Cullors. And oppo tell me,

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yep, and the name Patrice. I
recognize, recognize, I think

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from a connection to Soros or
something,

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right. You always get in the
head there. I'm

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sorry. I'm sorry. I knew
something's becoming

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this is becoming a common thing
with you? Yeah, um, we had a

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great sit down with TED talks,
which is a you know, platform to

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get all that the oh wait woke
agenda out there. And let's

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listen to the reason why they
started Black Lives Matter.

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Why is Black Lives Matter
important for the US right now.

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And in the world.

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Black Lives Matter is our call
to action. It is a tool to

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reimagine a world where black
people are free to exist, free

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to live. It is a tool for our
allies to show up differently

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for us.

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Whoa, that's not but I
understood the movement to be.

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And I thank God for him because
I didn't know I wasn't free to

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live resists. But God bless him.
Feel free, feel free. Right. So

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let's get into clip. Two of Miss
Patrice Cole years,

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Black Lives Matter offers
answers to the why offers a new

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vision for young black girls
around the world that we deserve

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to be fought for. That we
deserve to call on local

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governments to show up for us.

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Wow, this is not at all what the
message was.

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I thought it was hands up don't
shoot black, young black men,

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black men of color are being
shot down in the street light

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animals. But obviously not. And
you know what, I cannot receive

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this coming. I am being ultra
facetious. But

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hold on, let me ask let me ask
your question. Was now this that

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you said the things from a TED
talk was that at the founding,

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or was it later I mean, was that
the original concept and I just

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want to get the timeline maybe
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this is this is afterwards, this
is a couple of years after you

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know, they got off the ground.
Because as you've heard, Black

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Lives Matter started out as a
hash tag and the name became a

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organization. And then you know,
became a vehicle. For what

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always these liberal super woke,
I hate using that word

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repeatedly. But these movements
happen, it's like black people

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causes is the stepping stone to
get into bigger fundraising and

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taking bigger issues on. So
also, if you really want to get

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in, you know, you start with the
black people or you start with

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the black causes. And then
you're gonna hear Miss Opal,

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tell me pivot to other causes.

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We need this because the global
reality is the black people are

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subject to all sorts of
disparities. And most of our

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most challenging issues of our
day, I think about issues like

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climate change, and how six of
the 10 worst impacted nations by

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climate change are actually on
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Whoa, this is great. I wish I'd
had this for no agenda. This is

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fantastic. Good. Okay. Climate
change is killing black men in

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the neighborhoods.

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Yes, obviously, climate only
affects us. Sports specifically,

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but as you see is what they call
mission creep. Yeah, it's a form

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of mission creep. You know, they
get their foot in the door,

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people like, oh, that Black
Lives Matter thing is pretty

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cool. They got there. Let's talk
all these other things. And with

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it, you know, and then it
becomes so diluted that it

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doesn't even address. The
original concern was, which is

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the actual concern, black men
being shot in the streets? Let's

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not let's not poopoo that. But
if the people that are receiving

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the funding and attention, go
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that problem. That's something
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exactly. And we see this over
and over and over again. And

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that's why people become so
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because we know how it's going
to end up. I mean, as we say, on

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this show, hopefully, the past
only repeats itself. This is

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just a new iteration of
something that that we've seen

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before. Well, let's listen to
Miss automake speak some more.

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We also see disasters like
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recently wreaked havoc in Many
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most damage to Haiti. Haiti is
the poorest country in this

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hemisphere, and its inhabitants
are black people. And what we're

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seeing in Haiti is that they
were actually facing a number of

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challenges that even preceded
this hurricane. They were

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reeling from the earthquake,
they were reeling from cholera

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that was brought in by UN
peacekeepers, and still hasn't

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been eradicated. This is
unconscionable. And this would

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not happen if this nation didn't
have a population that was

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black. And we have to be real
about that.

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Yes, because earthquakes only
target black people.

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And hurricanes

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and hurricanes and Hades. This
is Black Lives Matter. Haitian

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Black Lives Matter. This is
great.

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So let me ask you this. A couple
of questions. And these are no

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agenda questions. One who kind
of took charge after that

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earthquake happened in Haiti?

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Well, that would be the
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Why no mention of the Clintons.
And how they misappropriated

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billions of dollars. Yes. Ah,
hey, they should be a top notch,

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top notch nation with the amount
of money that was infused from

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the from the earthquake. Oh,

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well, yeah. If the money was
infused, I mean, what wound up

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happening is the Red Cross built
about six homes and the Clintons

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built a hotel and they got the
Bill and Hillary suite. Now it

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was and this is almost like
mainstream acknowledgement of

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how poorly handled that was. And
not to mention what's the guy?

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Sweet Ron Martelli. There was a
whole bunch of other who was the

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one didn't the Black Eyed Peas
guy jump in there for a hot

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minute?

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Yeah, and was it um, was it him
or were you talking about watch

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you got what club John I'm
sorry. Wyclef. Yeah. Like okay.

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Yeah. Rodman and let's not
forget about Mr. Rotom. Hillary

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Clinton's brother.

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Uh, yes, he got when he got the
the exclusive mining licenses to

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mine for gold.

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Right. So but it was the natural
disaster. That was the problem.

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Yes. Because not not, no
earthquakes and hurricanes hate

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black people. And they target I
mean, they,

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they racially profiled racist
island over there. That one

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looks nice. Let's let's go blow
that one down. Not the

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government, you know, and I put
the sole responsibility on the

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government of those nations,
because they're allowed to

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misuse the funds that are given
to assist their people. But this

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goes to show you the problem.
They don't want to step on any

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toes of the Maggard downers and
the donor, donor class because

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this is where they get their
daily bread from

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fundraising. 101 right there in
the book,

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right? Yeah, you don't step no
step on the toes of the donors.

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But moving forward. Miss Alicia,
Garza. Let's hear her take on

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black lives matter

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when you deal with what's
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It creates an effervescence,
right? So a bubble up rather

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than a trickle down. Let me give
an example. When we talk about

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the wage gap, we often say women
make 78 cents to every dollar

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that a man makes y'all have
heard that before. But those are

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the statistics for white women
and white men. The reality is

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that black women make something
like 64 cents to every 78 cents

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that white women make. When we
talk about Latinas it goes down

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to about 58 cents. If we were to
talk about Indigenous women, if

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we were to talk about trans
women, it would even go farther

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down. So again, if you deal with
those who are the most impacted,

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everybody has an opportunity to
benefit from that.

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Okay, well, this you know, I
have a trouble problem with

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these statistics in general. I
don't know if that's where you

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want to go, but

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I know we're not going to go
down that. I agree. I agree with

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your honor. I know you're going
to come from and yeah, those

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numbers are our ra Missmiss
Twister the calculations. The

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point I want to make is out of
all three founders out of all

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the clips that we heard. We
never heard the Black Male No,

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no, no man No. No brought up
once. And I didn't cherry pick

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this. I didn't cherry pick this
TED Talks video. This is

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literally the first Question and
their responses?

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Well, that shows that we've been
hoodwinked.

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Yes, we have and we were told
that we were hoodwinked by

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people on the ground. in
Ferguson, there is a gentleman

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named Darren seals. He was one
of the local activists, and he

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was tied to the streets. in
Ferguson, well respected. He

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know he started out in the
streets, but then he, you know,

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he, he, he went away from that,
to you know, kind of being a

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positive force in the streets.
But let's let's do Mr. Darren

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seals speak about black lives
matter

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what it is man? Did hashtag
Black Lives Matter? That bore is

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bullshit, man. Black Lives
Matter. No one's doing it.

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People don't even know that
black lives matter. They want

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this to send these people to do
the right. Black Lives Matter.

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They sit him down. That was
awesome. Right, so now his name

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is dB. D re d r ay. D re he's a
homo. Homo. Homo go to the right

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now. Follow. Go look at him. But
50,000 followers before the

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credit court, he's from
Baltimore. There's a credit.

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He's from Baltimore. He'd been
highly focused. The focus that

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person got here by seeing it
from folks are right handed the

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folks that thing and quiet down.
He went back to Baltimore, the

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Baltimore boys read them about
it. There was

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a lot going on in this clip. No.
Yes, it is.

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And no, and I would say in a way
it feels like we're getting a

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look inside the mind of, dare I
say an average black American

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male who are not brought up
ahead. Yeah.

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I'm glad you brought that point.
And he received pushback for

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using, quote unquote,
unacceptable language when he

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talking about the LGBT
community. They labeled him as a

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homophobic, he addressed that
later on in the clip, but I

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didn't want to make the clip too
long. Not later on this clip,

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but other clips. He, he
addressed that, as they painted

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him as they paint anybody that
disagrees with them as being

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homophobic and not to be heard.
But the point he was trying to

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make is, these people came from
other places. And created a

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situation and made the situation
worse than it was the agitated.

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What was going on in Ferguson,
while reaping the benefits, and

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actually wasn't even boots on
the ground. They weren't

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standing on the front lines. No,
they were on Twitter. They were

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you know, securing the funds
that never made it to the people

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like himself that were were on
the ground. And one thing you

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brought up is inside the mind of
a black man. I'm gonna say this

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black people, and I've said this
before Black people are some of

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the most socially conservative
groups there is. So when you try

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to push these new ideas and
ideologies on us that go counter

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to what we believe you get
pushed back now he is not the

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most articulate person.

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Well, let me let me jump in. I
mean, just from my perspective,

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the general feeling I get my you
know, I don't like to

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generalize, but we're doing it
is that black men have an

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aversion against gay men and
certainly transgendered black

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men.

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Okay, let's take let's take,

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ah, that's that's just an
observation. It's generalizing,

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you know, and tell me where I'm
at.

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I'm gonna speak from personal.
Ah, I have nothing against LGBT.

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The problem I have is the over
representation in the media of

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black men being gay. Got it?
Where 30% of the population is

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black. Half of that makes this
What 6.5% of the population?

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Correct? Yep, boom. When you
turn on the television.

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There's Don Lemon.

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Right. The number of black men
represented in the media

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represented in movies
represented and just overall was

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portrayed on you know, the
television screens, movie

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screens, even memes, when you
look at means black men are

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represented as overall a large
portion or a large portion of

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them are represented as a
homosexual. Also, just and I

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don't I didn't want to go here,
but it's going to be very

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important to this. This
conversation we're having. There

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was recently a guy named Malik
Yoba. I don't know if you

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familiar with him or not. But he
was on a popular television

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show. New York undercover. It
was a nightie night. He's on

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Fox. He's come out and he's been
hugely Pro. Trans. He's trying

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to say that. If you date trans
women, I don't know how it goes

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when I think the women men that
are women or trans women, I

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believe. Yeah, I don't have my
Yes, right. There pushing now

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that you shouldn't if you don't
want to date a trans woman,

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you're transphobic and
homophobic.

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Yeah, well, and that's
colorless. I mean, that's across

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the board. If you say I'd never
drink data trans woman, you're

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transphobic right off. That's
the you know, this is this is

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the Dave Chappelle trap. This

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is the Dave Chappelle trap. And
it's it's amazing how these two

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things were going on at the same
time in the news. Yeah, Dave

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Chappelle is comedy special. And
then you had Malik Yoba coming

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out being an advocate for this.
And of course, they went to the

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Breakfast Club, and I don't want
to go down that rabbit hole, but

442
00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:41,460
I just want to go to show you in
the mind of average black males

443
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:49,410
like you're either portraying us
as hyper sexual, violent, or

444
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:56,760
hyper feminine. Masculine,
there's no you know, normalcy.

445
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,480
We don't get any normalcy, how
we're represented in the media

446
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,810
and I think that's what you're
hearing now from Mr. Darren

447
00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:07,170
seals, but just to get back on
track. Let's hear on Darren

448
00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:10,290
speaks Darren seals speak out
about Black Lives Matter.

449
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,980
So when I tweet and they play in
Canada with the white folks you

450
00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:16,530
know, they've racist they hide
behind fake pages on Twitter

451
00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:19,860
talking shit going back and
forth we tweet retweet it's like

452
00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:23,490
a big ass show. You know so you
got a lot of people sending them

453
00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:29,010
money turning them into stars
Oprah tweet net in Hong Kong her

454
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:33,630
fucking the face of Ferguson
nobody know the fuck she is in

455
00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:37,410
the face of shit. When even out
there which came out this year

456
00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:44,850
said don't tweet like what you
face@twitter.com Anyways man,

457
00:32:45,390 --> 00:32:48,510
we're happy we don't understand
Black Lives Matter. This

458
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:52,110
organization I think it's just a
hash tag and people just saying

459
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,630
hey, Ty white folks are part of
it. They put it in the media

460
00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:00,210
some behind it believe it

461
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:09,090
won't cry so he saw what was
going on. He saw the money

462
00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:12,090
coming in was it was it reaching
you know you see these GoFundMe

463
00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:15,810
is go up. You see these people
that are receiving all this

464
00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:18,990
media attention on social media
but you're not seeing them on

465
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:21,840
the front lines question yes.
How?

466
00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:28,110
So the Black Lives money funding
money that comes in? What do the

467
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,930
boots on what did they expect
that they would be giving them

468
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,240
money to survive while
protesting materials signs? I

469
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,450
mean, what what would the money
what was the money necessary

470
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:40,200
for?

471
00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:44,910
Okay, about 1 billion people out
of jail? Wow. Yes, God, okay,

472
00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:48,840
got it, too. I mean, it's kind
of like when when you're now you

473
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,820
gotta look at it like you're at
war and war analogy, but you got

474
00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:56,310
to have resources to the troops.

475
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,680
The bail right at the top I get
it. A lot of a lot of money

476
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,670
raised for protesters is for for
bail, bail funds.

477
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,140
Okay, let me let me draw this
analogy to you. So say you

478
00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:15,900
always bringing up the homeless
issue in Austin, right. I'm from

479
00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:21,540
Northern Virginia DMV, DC area.
Ally a man that's terrible. What

480
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:26,760
was going on in Austin? I come
out there I set up shop, saying

481
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:33,210
I'll Austin Austin. But then I
secure funds and take them back

482
00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:38,340
to DNV. GL, ya know, I live in
Austin. That would be seen as

483
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:46,290
like, disingenuous. Yeah, um,
but he made a good he made a

484
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:52,290
point there isn't it's not a
good point. But what black

485
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:55,470
people have noticed, and I'm
just speaking in generalities,

486
00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:03,030
generalities that whenever you
see these groups show up Um, and

487
00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:10,320
you see they're headed by or
funded, you know, by certain,

488
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,020
you know, same demographics. I'm
being white liberals in this

489
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:18,060
case. You know, it really irks
you, you know, especially when

490
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:22,650
you're in when we saw how he
understood how it was going to

491
00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:25,800
end up. What we saw on the
previous clips that how they

492
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,600
were speaking about what Black
Black Lives Matter had evolved

493
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,810
to, not what they were raising
money off of. But Mr. Darren

494
00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:41,970
seals, um, he was causing too
many problems.

495
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Don't upset the applecart.

496
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:48,570
Right. When you come out there
and you start adding, he has

497
00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:52,200
started gaining gaining
attention, albeit from smaller

498
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,750
platforms. That's why I had to
get the I read the really big to

499
00:35:54,750 --> 00:36:00,480
get these clips because, um,
they were really, for lack of a

500
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,450
better word blackballing him and
the media. On to a certain event

501
00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:07,080
happen.

502
00:36:08,370 --> 00:36:12,510
Darren seals was known locally
as a rapper nationally for his

503
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:16,050
activism during the Ferguson
protests, seals was found shot

504
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,230
inside a burning car in
Riverview on Diamond drive.

505
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:22,200
Police initially thought they
were responding to a car on

506
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,710
fire. But once they put out the
flames, they discovered seals

507
00:36:25,710 --> 00:36:28,200
body inside with a gunshot wound

508
00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:31,050
the community cares about

509
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,050
Benjamin Graham does with the
St. Louis County Police

510
00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:37,590
Department. He's hoping seal
status will encourage people to

511
00:36:37,590 --> 00:36:39,240
come forward with information.

512
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,720
I do know that there is a lot of
sentiment in the community that

513
00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:46,590
they want justice, they want the
truth and we hope to give that

514
00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:50,670
to them. We can't do it alone.
So we're hoping that friends,

515
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,150
family members, acquaintances,
or just any members of the

516
00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:57,120
community can come forward and
help us out with this with any

517
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,200
information they may have.

518
00:36:58,859 --> 00:37:03,299
Yeah, you know, I vaguely
remember this. And I remember it

519
00:37:03,299 --> 00:37:06,449
and we might even talked about
it on no agenda. We were like,

520
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,929
well, if you're in the car and
the cars burning, and you got a

521
00:37:09,929 --> 00:37:13,289
bullet holding it, you got to
know that's not suicide.

522
00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:20,250
Not suicide and not some random
beef. The guy was beloved in his

523
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:24,450
neighborhood, rather people that
actually live there. It reminds

524
00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:29,640
me of the and God His name just
slipped my mind just that quick.

525
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:37,740
The guy who was shot in DC, with
the Democratic um, he was a

526
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:46,830
Democratic Party worker. Oh is
sad?

527
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:49,440
I think it was Shawn, it was the
name Shawn.

528
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:52,110
It wasn't Shawn. It was.

529
00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:56,250
This is horrible that we don't
don't know this.

530
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,800
Okay, consult the book and
knowledge.

531
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:05,370
Seth Rich, I knew I was gonna
get this right now.

532
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:09,810
Just the fact that we forget.
shows even more trouble.

533
00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:11,850
That's That's tragic, isn't it?

534
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:17,850
Because we remember him. I mean,
we all remember him. But as I

535
00:38:17,850 --> 00:38:20,580
mean, you go to show you that
people can be erased. And this

536
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:24,360
is the case I think is good with
Darren seals. He was talking too

537
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,950
much for certain people good.
And we know as looking back now,

538
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,230
a lot of big money was being
pumped into Black Lives Matter.

539
00:38:37,259 --> 00:38:40,409
Now. Was there? Was there any
kind of investigation? Was there

540
00:38:40,409 --> 00:38:43,229
any follow up of this? This
murder?

541
00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:49,080
I searched all over the web.
That was the only clip I could

542
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,430
find. And there was other ones
around that time just reporting

543
00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:57,600
the death but no follow up. And
usually when there's no follow,

544
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,430
I'll say it like this. If you
okay is to is two ways you can

545
00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:06,510
look at it. One, the police
killed him or people who pro

546
00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:11,490
police killed him because he was
an activist. And then you use

547
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:16,200
him as a martyr. You know, to
gain attention, right? I mean,

548
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,950
know what I'm saying? Yeah, of
course, it right. But the fat

549
00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:24,870
and the same thing with Seth
Rich, if he was killed, because

550
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:30,480
he had information about the
Russians, quote, unquote,

551
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,530
Russians. Yeah, that would, or
you could use gun violence,

552
00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:37,020
which would have been great for
the Democratic Party, you know,

553
00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:39,450
look another, you know, saying
one of our own take it down my

554
00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:42,360
gun violence, you know, we need
to bring attention to gun

555
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,810
control,

556
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:47,730
and none of that and to be
specific, Seth Rich. The belief

557
00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:51,720
is that he was the one that
pulled the emails from the

558
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:55,980
Democratic National Committee
server and gave those to

559
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:56,820
WikiLeaks.

560
00:39:57,570 --> 00:40:01,500
That's true, but what I'm saying
is it You say it's a random

561
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,210
street crop, which is the
official story. Yeah. Right. Why

562
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:11,940
didn't the Democrats use this as
a, one of our own taken by gun

563
00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:12,360
violence?

564
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:16,740
Well, you know, it was, it was a
22 caliber. It's not a scary ar

565
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:18,840
15. But I understand what you're
saying.

566
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,420
Right? And it's the same thing.
If you look at it through the

567
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:27,390
same lens here, if it was a anti
Black Lives Matter, pro cop,

568
00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:30,960
murderer, right? We need to use
this guy as a martyr. Yes. But

569
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,160
when it goes silent,

570
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:36,690
then you know something's up.
Okay. All right, I totally get

571
00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:37,980
it. So that's,

572
00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:42,060
that's how I saw that. But we
got to understand, okay, if

573
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:45,450
we're gonna go with he was
silence. Why would we be

574
00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:50,070
silence? And my theory is the
money that was being pumped into

575
00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:54,330
Black Lives Matter and who was
doing it. So

576
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,960
who's funding Black Lives
Matter? One of the big donors

577
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,410
seems to be George Soros or old
Powell gives big money to

578
00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:05,730
affiliates of Black Lives Matter
groups that do direct business

579
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:09,270
with them, also giving money
directly to the group,

580
00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:14,880
entertainers, Jay Z and Beyonce.
And they are joining us now from

581
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,880
Washington, Kelly riddle, an
investigative reporter for The

582
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,180
Washington Times. Is this just a
fringe group? Or should we take

583
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,050
them seriously?

584
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,140
Well, I mean, you gotta look at
Black Lives Matter is really an

585
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:30,690
umbrella slogan kind of group
that encompasses a lot of social

586
00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:35,280
justice workers, and a lot of
social justice organizations.

587
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,540
And it's it was a group that was
started by three women that work

588
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,870
at Soros backed organizations
that are into community

589
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:46,530
organizing, into kind of riling
up activists.

590
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:51,480
And yes, okay, it's all coming
back now. Yep. And I remember I

591
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,600
don't know which one of the
women had, I think, a $2 million

592
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:59,220
nonprofit that definitely was
funded by Open Society

593
00:41:59,220 --> 00:42:02,400
Institute, ie George Soros. I
don't know about all of them,

594
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,700
though.

595
00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:08,280
That was Alicia. Garza. Okay.
Yeah. And that's the one you

596
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040
guys covered on the no agenda
that she was really receiving

597
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:17,730
some money from some Chinese
organization? Well, I think

598
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,430
we're saying you did some
research on that as well. But

599
00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:24,240
let's not say I digress on that
point. But if you're going to go

600
00:42:24,270 --> 00:42:28,650
to theory that he was silenced,
big money will get you silenced

601
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,640
very quickly. This is a very
black lives matter. And that's

602
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,890
why I'm harping on this. And
just go, we're going going back,

603
00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:45,360
what's the goal for for why D re
McKesson and Shaun King are

604
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:51,360
having this long standing beef,
mm D Ray was in a position of

605
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:57,480
power. He had the blue vest he
was on The Tonight shows. And lo

606
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:04,260
and behold, Sean Kane came in
and replace them. At some point.

607
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:09,480
Now derailed on the outside
looking in, the women of Black

608
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,530
Lives Matter has moved on to
bigger and better causes to

609
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:20,400
fight. And he's left with only
Twitter frame. Ah, now that's

610
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,570
not my words. Let me go to nine.
Like I said, there's an article

611
00:43:24,570 --> 00:43:32,310
that came out this morning from
Shaun King, and there was this

612
00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:38,850
was his reply. Let me find it.
So in the beginning of his

613
00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:47,640
article, he mentions how he says
I am not our Twitter account.

614
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:51,330
When I look in the mirror in the
morning, I don't see at Shaun

615
00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:55,800
king or a social media
personality. I'm a husband to

616
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,800
the brilliant black woman I
first met and fell in love with

617
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,410
1996. And that was and him
saying that because Yeah. You

618
00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:06,240
picked up on that. Um,

619
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,290
oh, yeah. Oh, yes. @MoeFactz, I
hear you.

620
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:21,390
Right. So, but he goes on to
say, let me D Ray has been

621
00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:27,510
basically Ah, okay, here's a
quote. D Ray is now mainly

622
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:31,860
famous for being famous more
than he is famous for actually

623
00:44:31,860 --> 00:44:37,050
doing real work that helps real
people. And because his fame is

624
00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:44,040
mostly exclusively centered on
Twitter. Got it? So he's saying

625
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:50,340
we branched out we become real
entities in the movement and

626
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:53,550
poor deranged you know, he's a
Twitter either Twitter celebrity

627
00:44:53,550 --> 00:44:59,190
right. And that's, that's,
that's the fundamental beef

628
00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:02,430
right there. That's the
fundamental beef right there.

629
00:45:02,430 --> 00:45:06,870
So, I know you guys are saying
and everybody's saying, well,

630
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:13,710
Mo, you come in with Fox News
facts about soy, about soy rose

631
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:16,140
and Black Lives Matter. No, I
don't that

632
00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:19,920
guy actually looked it up. I
remember looking at the form 990

633
00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:26,160
of Garza is a nonprofit and
there it was Open Society

634
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,700
Institute. That's not Fox News.
That's, you know, IRS filings?

635
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:34,800
Well, as I always like to do, I
like to bring balance, and we're

636
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,400
gonna list them Mr. De Patman,
who was super progressive, he's

637
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,280
a Bernie bro. Ah, and he's gonna
also make the claim that Black

638
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,870
Lives Matter is Soros funded?

639
00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:51,870
And I have a very, very specific
idea that we need to explore

640
00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:56,070
seriously, which is that the
anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the

641
00:45:56,070 --> 00:45:59,790
Black Lives Matter movement
recently couldn't be George

642
00:45:59,790 --> 00:46:03,570
Soros funded astroturf, and I
will speak as specifically as

643
00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:06,270
possible, Louis. And then I will
allow you Lewis to tell me what

644
00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:09,930
you think about this. It's
widely on record, that George

645
00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:14,700
Soros, the liberal billionaire
has poured a ton of money into

646
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,820
two movements that were
instrumental in creating Black

647
00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:21,870
Lives Matter and the buzzword
dating back to January, we knew

648
00:46:21,870 --> 00:46:26,520
that George Soros spent over $30
million bankrolling Ferguson

649
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,520
demonstrators and of course,
Ferguson relates to Officer

650
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,420
Darren Wilson, who killed
unarmed teenager Michael Brown

651
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:37,440
and was ultimately not charged.
This includes support by George

652
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,130
Soros of groups like color
lines, news for action.

653
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,260
Organization for black struggle,
which established itself then

654
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:50,160
established the hands up
coalition. Soros also gave money

655
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,970
to the Drug Policy Alliance,
which worked on pushing Black

656
00:46:53,970 --> 00:46:57,300
Lives Matter as a bug buzzword,
which has since been

657
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,450
incorporated into speech
speeches by political figures,

658
00:47:00,450 --> 00:47:01,740
including Hillary Clinton.

659
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,250
Now, tell me again about this.
David Pakman.

660
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:11,579
Dave Pakman, he's, he has almost
700,000 followers on YouTube.

661
00:47:11,668 --> 00:47:17,010
He's progressive. Is he white
guy? White Guy, white guy. All

662
00:47:17,099 --> 00:47:22,263
right. Are you asking me a
question? I last show about his

663
00:47:22,352 --> 00:47:27,427
black woke and White woke the
same? Yeah. Oh, and this is

664
00:47:27,516 --> 00:47:32,946
where you can see where they can
part ways. Because they have

665
00:47:33,035 --> 00:47:38,644
different genders this, and they
have different agendas. And if

666
00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:44,164
they don't line up, they will
attack each other. So this is a

667
00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:49,506
perfect example of that. Now, I
guess other people may say,

668
00:47:49,595 --> 00:47:54,937
well, Moe, that's just two white
guys saying that black guy.

669
00:47:55,026 --> 00:48:00,189
Black Lives Matter. Yeah. So
that right so um, let's go to

670
00:48:00,278 --> 00:48:05,620
Mr. Lord Lord Jamal with Jamar
brand Nubian fame rapper from

671
00:48:05,709 --> 00:48:06,600
the 1990s.

672
00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:08,670
blacker than that, that's.

673
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,060
Yeah. And let's listen to him
speak on Black Lives Matter

674
00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:17,010
being somewhat supported by
Soros?

675
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:19,560
I don't know. I just thought
that was weird shit. And I'm not

676
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,360
no Black Lives Matter supporter?
No, absolutely not. Because it's

677
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,660
not our movement. This is a
movement that was given to us

678
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:36,120
by, you know, George Soros and
his fucking boys. Because they

679
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,330
saw how things were going and
they didn't want it to go back

680
00:48:39,330 --> 00:48:42,540
to the 60s to where we started
having our own organic

681
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:45,060
movements. That was a big
fucking problem for them. So

682
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:48,720
let's give the people of
movement that we can control.

683
00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:52,350
We'll provide them the leaders
and all of this type of shit.

684
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,160
And get that's the Black Lives
Matter is look at the leaders of

685
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,570
Black Lives Matter or their
leaders. Who could these lesbian

686
00:49:03,570 --> 00:49:10,620
women who are trying to
incorporate you know? LG,

687
00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:14,340
whatever the fuck the letters
are? incorporate those their

688
00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:19,320
concerns into black people's
concerns. Go to the website,

689
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:19,920
look it up.

690
00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:27,690
Well, first, let's help. Lord
Jamar, it's LGBTQ Q IAP K. And

691
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:30,570
what's what strikes me about
this clip what he said in the

692
00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:34,650
beginning is he sees this
situation, which I agree with,

693
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:39,480
pretty much as the dinner scene
from the movie trick, baby. Mm

694
00:49:40,050 --> 00:49:42,810
hmm. Which is something that's
coming back and the current

695
00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:45,300
theme of the show. Now you're

696
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:50,640
saying it's all about control
opposition? Oh, we have to

697
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,920
control. You know, the masses,
and what do we do about how we

698
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,390
do that? We put the leadership
in front of them. Oh, Whether

699
00:50:00,390 --> 00:50:04,110
it's homegrown, it's two ways
that happen that can grow the

700
00:50:04,110 --> 00:50:08,730
leadership from the ground up.
Which that's, I think this is

701
00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:11,400
where the conservative
conservatives and liberals

702
00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:20,280
deviate in mindset. A lot of
your conservative type talking

703
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,650
heads are grown from the ground
up. What liberals do is they say

704
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:30,240
who's hot in the streets right
now? And they say, Okay, well,

705
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,910
that allows Mattis the move.
Okay, here's what we're going to

706
00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:39,180
do. What's your number? And then
they come in, they Co Op, don't

707
00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:41,790
they give him money? You know,
they give him that. Like I said,

708
00:50:42,030 --> 00:50:45,720
DeRay Mckesson went from on
Twitter. I remember seeing his

709
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:51,240
god pop up. And I'm like, Who is
this? I do this. And really what

710
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,110
I mean by I'll do this. I'll
see. I'll watch and I see, who

711
00:50:55,110 --> 00:50:58,950
are they putting up as movers
and shakers. And when new people

712
00:50:58,950 --> 00:51:02,220
starting to pop up, I did the
same thing with Obama, who is

713
00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:05,730
this guy? I never saw him in a
jet. I never saw him in Ebony. I

714
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:10,170
never, you know. And then you
just pop up out of nowhere. Same

715
00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:14,280
thing with DeRay Mckesson? Who
is this guy. Never seen you on

716
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,430
black YouTube. I never, you
know, because it's a circuit,

717
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,730
you know, even you can go back
because a lot of times this

718
00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:25,080
stuff was captured on VHS. And
then it was later loaded up on

719
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,400
the YouTube, even pre YouTube.
So a lot of these people have

720
00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:33,900
past history got history, right?
So when you start digging in,

721
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:37,260
like, I don't find anything on
this guy, D Ray, I don't find

722
00:51:37,290 --> 00:51:40,980
anything on this guy, Shaun
King. I don't find anything on

723
00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:44,160
these three ladies from Black
Lives Matter. You know, they

724
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,700
didn't come up through the I
wanted the big circuit is the

725
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,090
was the black bookstore circuit.
That was kind of like the

726
00:51:51,090 --> 00:52:00,780
Chitlin Circuit for black. I'm
black speakers and thinkers. You

727
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:07,410
know, you every town that had a
large or semi large black

728
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:09,930
population had a black
bookstore, where they would sell

729
00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:13,050
literature. And like on
Saturdays, give me the inside

730
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:17,340
baseball here, folks. On
Saturday, often a person my

731
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:23,520
pushing a book would come to
speak at these of bookstores.

732
00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:28,320
And that's what the VHS to VHS
tapes were pop up it. You don't

733
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960
have that now because they can
go straight to the people via a

734
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,490
YouTube or social media. So but
that's what I'm saying. You have

735
00:52:35,490 --> 00:52:39,180
a legacy built up of saying,
Okay, this guy's is an agent or

736
00:52:39,180 --> 00:52:41,700
he ain't agent you know, because
you had to make your you know,

737
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:45,150
you had to make your name and
State Your Claim in those

738
00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:50,460
bookstores. These guys don't
have any of that. So when I

739
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:54,810
started to go do my homework
almost as Lord Lord Jamar did.

740
00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:58,350
He's like, man, who the hell are
the people? And I want to be

741
00:52:58,350 --> 00:53:03,870
clear. For certain people out
there, they might hear this

742
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:13,110
tinge of black male versus the
LGBT community. The problem with

743
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:17,220
that, and I want to make this
very clear is they've co opted

744
00:53:17,250 --> 00:53:20,970
us in so many ways. And when I
say us the struggles of black

745
00:53:20,970 --> 00:53:24,840
people, specifically black men,
to say, oh, yeah, we're just

746
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,760
like black people. Black people
don't have a closet. We don't

747
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,900
have a closet that we ears. And
I'm saying so it's very

748
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:41,220
insulting. Now, on the other
hand, you shouldn't be

749
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,240
disrespectful, anybody's life
choices. I believe that you

750
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,760
know, to each his own whatever
you're saying whatever you're

751
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,970
into, so we had to be
respectful. But when somebody

752
00:53:50,970 --> 00:53:54,240
comes in and Co Ops, you know,
the civil rights movement, they

753
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,380
co opted that black lives
matter, they co opted that not

754
00:53:58,410 --> 00:54:02,520
that we know black lives matter
was only for

755
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,610
that. I'll give you another
example. The Tea Party, which

756
00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:08,100
has nothing to do with black or
white, although they're probably

757
00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:14,940
white people, which was started
by Ron Paul, and this was 2008.

758
00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:19,770
And that got co opted massively.
And there's still plenty ranch.

759
00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:24,030
Yeah. It's still a Tea Party has
nothing to do with the original

760
00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:27,750
libertarian idea behind it. So
yeah, the political movements

761
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:29,820
get co opted all the time.

762
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,730
Yeah, but the problem is, it's
the same people co opting our

763
00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:40,050
movements over and over and over
again. And I'm not just talking

764
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:45,390
about the 1990s I'm going all
the way back to the Harlem

765
00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:50,220
Renaissance to the 1920s. That
was fun, and I may have to do a

766
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:50,790
later show.

767
00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:53,730
But you know, you just you got
me with all you already got me

768
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:56,760
with the black bookstores, which
of course I didn't know about.

769
00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:59,610
Now I need to know about this
movement in the 20s but that can

770
00:54:59,610 --> 00:55:01,650
be a step But show but I'm
already intrigued.

771
00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:09,750
Just just as a teaser, one that
the guy listed as the father of

772
00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:16,890
the Harlem Renaissance was
hugely pro LGBT in that time,

773
00:55:17,130 --> 00:55:23,820
and I'll just leave it at that.
Okay. So back to large, Mr. M.

774
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,480
Let's listen to him continuing
on about black lives matter.

775
00:55:27,810 --> 00:55:29,250
You see them say there's no real

776
00:55:29,250 --> 00:55:32,640
Why is he? There is leaders.
This is what I'm telling you.

777
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,450
They're lesbians. They're black
lesbians.

778
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,860
Key people are Shaun King.
Who's, he's he's a writer for

779
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,540
New York. Daily News.

780
00:55:45,570 --> 00:55:48,900
I'm not talking about the key
people go to the fucking website

781
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:50,070
who runs the shit?

782
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:56,790
Is their website. Right? And
because when I looked at Black

783
00:55:56,790 --> 00:56:01,590
live BLM leader, the key people
that there's no leader that

784
00:56:01,590 --> 00:56:04,410
that's listed, but the key
people that are listed is Shaun

785
00:56:04,410 --> 00:56:07,740
King, DeRay, McKesson and
Johnetta.

786
00:56:08,430 --> 00:56:15,330
Elzie. So as you're saying,
their Lord Jamar said when he

787
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:21,690
said Shaun King, who's that?
Right? If he doesn't know you, I

788
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:26,250
mean, you you have no
credentials. I mean, because

789
00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:29,610
he's, his knowledge will be even
more extensive than mine. I

790
00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:36,210
mean, by far, and two, who are
the movers and shakers and pro

791
00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:42,660
black society? And he was like,
Who's that? Oh, but as we see,

792
00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:50,910
fast forward. Just going back to
the article that Shaun King

793
00:56:51,630 --> 00:57:00,780
wrote to Deray DeRay Mckesson.
So here's why these things

794
00:57:00,780 --> 00:57:04,080
happen in the time that they
happen and let me just spine to

795
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:09,390
you. Okay, Shaun King was being
recognized by Rihanna.

796
00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:14,010
Ah, okay. This is the once you
get into that, then you're up

797
00:57:14,010 --> 00:57:15,780
and up and into the new circles.

798
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,320
Right so they were having a boss
she has a home

799
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:33,300
see, it says Okay, going back to
the article, direct chose to

800
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,840
release a public attack against
me hours before the diamond ball

801
00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:40,710
was vindictive, short sighted
and destructive. So the diamond

802
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:46,770
ball was a ball being hailed I'm
about the Clara Lionel

803
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:53,370
Foundation which is Rihanna
foundation so he didn't he goes

804
00:57:53,370 --> 00:57:57,450
on to say he says but because
the race poor poorly, Tom, and I

805
00:57:57,450 --> 00:57:59,370
don't agree with that, I think
it was x you're saying

806
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:05,010
Excellent. Excellently timed a
op ed on the red carpet recall

807
00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:08,820
reporters, we read it guest
about me and my presence. And

808
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:12,570
instead of Rihanna and the
foundation, or the diamond ball

809
00:58:12,570 --> 00:58:15,900
being the top, the trending
topic in the country, it was de

810
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:19,260
Ray and his attacks against me
all night long. So now we're

811
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:27,750
seeing Shaun king is in a, you
know, an inner circle, not only

812
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:31,020
you know, on black topics, but
with celebrities. You know,

813
00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:35,370
you're getting honored by by
Rihanna, and you're getting,

814
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:39,930
you're saying, get invited to
these balls. And not only that,

815
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:43,860
but he's getting support by the
one and only Cardi B

816
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,820
one of the main reason why it's
so important for me to be here

817
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,290
is because Rihanna is honoring
Shaun king. A lot of people need

818
00:58:52,290 --> 00:58:56,130
to follow Shaun King on
Instagram. He protests so much

819
00:58:56,130 --> 00:59:00,120
for all minorities, he protests
so much for the whole entire

820
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,010
world. And he's doing this thing
right now. It's called um, vote

821
00:59:05,010 --> 00:59:07,680
for Senate. It's very important
for people to go for Senate and

822
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,690
everything so we could do the
wrong things in order to say

823
00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:11,160
because the Democrats already
got

824
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:33,030
the house that's my black card
right there. I practice for

825
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:33,600
hours.

826
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,170
All right. So Well, hold

827
00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:40,620
on a second. You know, Cardi B
is dumb. All right. She just

828
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:45,840
dumb. I've seen Cardi B. I hear
what she says she I mean, she's

829
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,600
an entertainer. She's funny to
watch. He's got the hook. She's

830
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,930
got all that. Yeah, she's very
entertaining to watch, but I

831
00:59:51,930 --> 00:59:53,370
don't think she's smart.

832
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,260
Wait a minute. I'm curry. You
wait a minute, sir. Oh, here we

833
00:59:58,260 --> 01:00:03,330
go. According to Mr. de reyes
articlemy Mr. Shah kings are

834
01:00:03,330 --> 01:00:08,970
cool. He says, quote,
furthermore, a sexist dhimmis

835
01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:12,690
these massive assumption is
being made about both Rihanna

836
01:00:12,690 --> 01:00:16,080
and Cardi B, you can their
public and private support of

837
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:21,030
me. The assumption is that d Ray
knows better than they do. And

838
01:00:21,060 --> 01:00:22,740
so sodas Adam curry.

839
01:00:22,770 --> 01:00:28,440
Yeah, well, I stand by my by my
points here.

840
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:34,320
All right, he says the inference
is that Rihanna and Cardi B were

841
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,790
only better formed if they if
they were only a little smarter,

842
01:00:39,180 --> 01:00:42,750
and only a little more won't
like him. If they only knew what

843
01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:46,650
Twitter knows. They wind up with
me quote, unquote, by the

844
01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:48,930
way, I don't I don't I don't
think Rihanna is dumb. I think

845
01:00:48,930 --> 01:00:50,190
she's actually very smart.

846
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:52,410
You fell right into the trap?

847
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:58,350
Of course I did. Living up to my
dumb white game. It's all good.

848
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:08,070
All right. So to get to that
level, you can see why D Ray is

849
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:14,730
here. Yeah, he's, yeah. I'm
gonna say let's get him being of

850
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:19,740
the LGBT community. He's like
this guy. Shaun King. Hangover.

851
01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:26,040
Rihanna, and Cardi B Yeah. And
I'm sitting next own. That's the

852
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:36,000
art cume, that has to earn, um,
but it's man. Um, but so now now

853
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,120
we're seeing while we're here, I
went all the way around the

854
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,900
block to get us to the point of
the beef. Now we understand the

855
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:49,950
beef. Now, there has been some
issues. Even Shaun King himself

856
01:01:49,950 --> 01:01:54,720
saying their biggest issues were
his fundraising abilities. So

857
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,560
let's listen to fundraising
fraud. Cain claims, one

858
01:01:58,620 --> 01:02:01,050
of one of the critiques of you
is that you're good at creating

859
01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:04,320
stuff, good at building stuff,
and good at fundraising for

860
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,800
stuff. But then somewhere
between the conceptualization

861
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,160
and execution is a gap. Oh,
that's true. That is probably

862
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,000
the best criticism of me that
somebody can offer. Like I'm,

863
01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:20,580
I'm a natural starter. I'm a,
I've been fundraising my entire

864
01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:25,560
life. And so I know how to pitch
an idea. But I have struggled up

865
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,730
until the past two or three
years to figure out how to start

866
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,600
something, grow it and maintain
it. And the organization that we

867
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,420
started real justice is probably
the best thing I've ever been a

868
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:36,750
part

869
01:02:36,750 --> 01:02:42,330
of. Real justice. So that's the
real justice pack. When we spoke

870
01:02:42,330 --> 01:02:46,800
about before, yeah. So if you
listen to say, Okay, so now,

871
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,890
Adam, you weren't venture
capitalist. So let's look at

872
01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:53,640
this in the light of a venture
capitalist. I believe so it's

873
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,200
correct. Is that correct
statement? Well, you

874
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,320
mean, you mean, like Soros is
even more hedge fund and venture

875
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,100
capitalist?

876
01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:02,352
What I mean is, say something
like, Okay, this is my

877
01:03:02,410 --> 01:03:06,002
understand how venture capitals
work. Say, I have the MoeFacts

878
01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:09,420
app and it's the greatest thing
since sliced bread. Right?

879
01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:12,270
Yeah. Okay. I'm a venture
capitalist, I've

880
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,150
right and I want you to, I want
you to fund me, and they'll tell

881
01:03:15,150 --> 01:03:17,640
you, Okay, this is how it's
going to work out them. You

882
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,880
know, it's going to be the best
thing you know, ever. And all I

883
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,030
need you to do is throw your
money in saying behind the

884
01:03:24,030 --> 01:03:26,220
project, and we're going to be,
you know, saying we're going to

885
01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:27,270
change the world.

886
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:30,120
Great. Great. So what is my
return on my investment?

887
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:36,720
Right? So but you give me the
money, okay. So you say okay,

888
01:03:38,190 --> 01:03:40,290
all right, I believe you, I'm
giving you the money,

889
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,750
you believe me the money and
then I come back and you say,

890
01:03:42,750 --> 01:03:49,020
You know what? Me implementing
this idea is my problem. You

891
01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:52,590
know, I can come up with him. I
have great ideas. But you know,

892
01:03:52,590 --> 01:03:55,710
that money you gave me I just
have problems with you know,

893
01:03:57,060 --> 01:03:59,970
implementing the idea. That's
basically what this guy just

894
01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:05,010
said. Yeah, I need some more his
last clip. Yeah, how can you?

895
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:10,740
How would that work out and and
I know I'm maybe comparing

896
01:04:10,770 --> 01:04:13,920
apples to oranges a little bit.
But when you say you have an

897
01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:17,760
idea, or you have a you know,
something that's going to change

898
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,990
the world, people invest in you,
they expect some kind of like

899
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:24,660
you'd like you just ask what's
the return on my investment?

900
01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:27,690
Now, it might not be money, but
you want to see results? Right?

901
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,740
Well, what we call this
executing, executing,

902
01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:35,430
okay. Now, if I come back to you
say, Wait, you know, Adam, my

903
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:39,450
problem is really executing.
Yeah. Right. Is that an

904
01:04:39,450 --> 01:04:40,680
acceptable excuse?

905
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:44,610
No, that is not acceptable that
in fact, the only reason to come

906
01:04:44,610 --> 01:04:47,190
back for more money with a
venture capitalist is because I

907
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:49,980
can make even more money if we
keep pumping more into it. We

908
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:53,400
can build more scale, but
saying, I'm sorry, I couldn't

909
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,400
execute I need some more money
is probably the worst thing you

910
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,880
could say.

911
01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:03,120
But that's what he just said.
Ah, so it's clear to me be clear

912
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:09,210
this is from BT. This is from
BT. And he got no pushback.

913
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:15,360
Nobody said, Well, you know,
difference between like a dream

914
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,210
and ideas either you can
actually, you know, materialize,

915
01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:22,740
it executes. Right execute, you
can execute, but not he is

916
01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:27,150
acceptable excuse that he can't
execute. And nobody gives him

917
01:05:27,150 --> 01:05:31,050
pushback. And I think that's
what derailed saying, in his

918
01:05:31,050 --> 01:05:35,820
article is like, do you guys so
much money? But we haven't seen

919
01:05:35,850 --> 01:05:40,890
anything? Change, right? We
haven't seen any fruits, you

920
01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,090
know, fruit. So you're saying of
this money? Or suppose it hard

921
01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:49,170
work. All right. So that's one
thing he brought up in this,

922
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:53,700
this this interview would be
tea. Let's go to fundraising

923
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:54,600
frogs too.

924
01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:59,430
But the truth is, because I am
who I am, because I look how I

925
01:05:59,430 --> 01:06:03,090
look, there are doors that are
open to me that sometimes

926
01:06:03,090 --> 01:06:06,960
shouldn't like, there are
privileges and platforms that I

927
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:12,510
get, there is this degree of
even like light skin privilege

928
01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:18,120
and accessibility. Like because
I look how I look, that makes me

929
01:06:18,510 --> 01:06:23,820
more relatable to white people
in white spaces. So what I have

930
01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:27,030
to do if I have some level of
relatability that I didn't

931
01:06:27,030 --> 01:06:30,300
choose, I was born with it. I
have to use it, I have to

932
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:32,040
squeeze it have to maximize it.

933
01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:41,400
So Mr. Shawn King, the ones
always preaching about privilege

934
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,410
this and privilege that he likes
to use the recipient, recipient

935
01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:49,530
of light skinned privilege, and
now this is

936
01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:53,370
baseball. This is a real
category this light skinned

937
01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:55,350
privilege is called

938
01:06:55,350 --> 01:07:01,590
colorism. Oh, colorism now it is
heavy, heavy in the black

939
01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:06,660
community is it is a real thing.
It is but it's not exclusive to

940
01:07:06,660 --> 01:07:10,470
the black community. The reason
why I say that is the Indian

941
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:16,650
caste system is based off of
colorism. When you go to Brazil,

942
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:22,410
it's colorism. So what it is, is
the lighter your skin is the

943
01:07:22,410 --> 01:07:28,530
more accessible or acceptable
you are to white society. Now

944
01:07:28,530 --> 01:07:36,480
let me make the point out DeRay
Mckesson is dark skin. Yeah.

945
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,150
Well, I was just sitting here
just I was just reflecting I'm

946
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:46,290
trying to think, how would I
would I feel different? Getting

947
01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:51,450
a pitch from the light, light
skin, or dark skin? And I was

948
01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:55,140
just I was contemplating it. I
don't know. But I'm sure it

949
01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:56,490
exists. I'm sure it's real.

950
01:07:57,330 --> 01:08:01,830
I'm not saying I can't speak to
how it is perceived from the

951
01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:08,970
white side. Oh, but some people
in the black community I'm not

952
01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:12,900
gonna say all I never say all or
anything. I believe that light

953
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:17,730
skinned people have an easier
life. Now where that hits me is

954
01:08:18,090 --> 01:08:21,840
I have two children and a brown
skin and I have two children who

955
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:27,810
are light skin. I don't I don't
think you know, I don't think

956
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,810
one gets privileged more than
the other. But I think this

957
01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:37,320
thought is taught at an early
age. And I think two things are

958
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:42,720
being conflated here. Well, MTV,
okay,

959
01:08:42,750 --> 01:08:47,970
great. I'm sorry, just to
interrupt you, MTV did a MTV

960
01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:53,040
decoded video where they say
colorism is not racism? Do you

961
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:53,340
remember

962
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:54,120
that clip?

963
01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:59,040
Vaguely. Do you want to just
hear that for a second here how

964
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,900
the young people are being
taught today we're

965
01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:02,490
talking about a mode of
discrimination that

966
01:09:02,490 --> 01:09:05,010
predominantly impacts people of
color. And you might be

967
01:09:05,010 --> 01:09:08,130
surprised hearing this from me.
But this episode is not about

968
01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:11,850
racism. I'm talking about
colorism. First, let's be clear

969
01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:15,240
about what the word colorism
actually means. colorism is not

970
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,750
synonymous with racism. It's a
form of discrimination based on

971
01:09:18,750 --> 01:09:22,140
skin color. And before you're
like Wait, isn't that like the

972
01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:25,710
literal definition of racism?
Hold on to your social

973
01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:28,530
constructs because we're gonna
knock a few Damn. And today

974
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,960
we've got a special guest to
help us with this demolition

975
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,450
project. Haley, let's break this
one down.

976
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,870
Glad OKC as a Latino of color
colorism is something I'm all

977
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:39,570
too familiar with. Racism
involves discrimination based on

978
01:09:39,570 --> 01:09:42,180
things such as skin color, but
it's also dependent on power

979
01:09:42,180 --> 01:09:44,700
dynamics that becomes
perpetuated by years of

980
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,010
structural oppression. Black and
Latino men getting longer

981
01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:50,430
sentences for the same crime is
white men racism, black and

982
01:09:50,430 --> 01:09:53,610
Latino odds telling you to date
light skinned men. colorism

983
01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:56,220
because we have to complete race
with skin color. Sometimes

984
01:09:56,220 --> 01:09:58,650
distinguishing between colorism
and racism can get tricky

985
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,580
colorism It sucks. This is one
way racism and colorism are

986
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:05,640
different systems of oppression
favor white people, meaning

987
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,250
black people can technically be
racist towards other black

988
01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:11,580
people. But clearly in this
case, they can and do perpetuate

989
01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:14,580
colorism in their own
communities, the discrimination

990
01:10:14,580 --> 01:10:18,300
is coming from inside of the
house. Example number three

991
01:10:18,450 --> 01:10:20,880
language. This is a pretty
common phrase people in Puerto

992
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,850
Rico and the Dominican Republic
grow up with Katherine among

993
01:10:23,850 --> 01:10:25,830
Spanish speakers in the
Caribbean. The word means

994
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:28,890
someone low class or brutish,
and descent by people of all

995
01:10:28,890 --> 01:10:31,620
colors and racial backgrounds.
The word implies you're acting

996
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:34,740
darker and both complexion and
behavior, but the word itself

997
01:10:34,740 --> 01:10:36,600
carries a linguistic and
cultural connection to

998
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,810
blackness, it shares roots with
a South African racial slur, cat

999
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:40,170
fear.

1000
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,450
Wow, there's a lot in there.

1001
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:48,030
There's a lot in there. And
we're conflating two things.

1002
01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:51,780
Yeah, we have to understand
where that thought process comes

1003
01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:57,330
from. Okay, so too, okay. So if
you have a group of dark skinned

1004
01:10:57,330 --> 01:11:01,950
people, the way you get light
skin had to be through

1005
01:11:02,010 --> 01:11:08,070
interracial relations, sex. So
that means that you have a

1006
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:13,710
parent or lineage from white
people. So that's where that

1007
01:11:13,710 --> 01:11:20,610
thought process comes from, of
lighter skin privilege. And it's

1008
01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:28,830
a real thing, because going back
not going back in slavery. The

1009
01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:34,560
master kids that were his kids
by a slave would often be given

1010
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,840
their freedom. And so they
created this subclass in black

1011
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,650
society where they were not
quite white, but there were a

1012
01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:48,300
bunch of black people. And
that's where it comes from. And

1013
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:52,800
it's just a long story short,
um, but you have the brown paper

1014
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,830
bag test you had the pencil
test? Well, yeah, well, I'm

1015
01:11:58,830 --> 01:12:05,880
serious. Were in the late 1800s,
early 1900s. You couldn't come

1016
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,510
to certain meetings are married
to certain families, if you are

1017
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:15,030
darker than a brown paper bag,
brown paper bag. That's crazy.

1018
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,770
Wow, this is true. And Spike
Lee's movie school days cover

1019
01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:23,100
this evening, sororities and
fraternities were the same way

1020
01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:26,790
as well. If you go back and look
at certain pictures from that

1021
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:29,670
divine nine Greek fraternities I
was telling you about, at a

1022
01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:33,090
certain time point, you will
only see fair skinned people in

1023
01:12:33,090 --> 01:12:36,180
these organizations with certain
hair textures, and they will

1024
01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:39,240
they won't marry white. So I
will say if you were like skin,

1025
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,060
you wouldn't marry white, but
you will only marry like skin.

1026
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,990
So, um, I

1027
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:48,300
interrupted you, you were going
to tell a personal story about

1028
01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:50,190
your kids. And I think I
interrupted you. I'd love to

1029
01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:51,030
hear what you're gonna say,

1030
01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:59,040
Oh, well, like I said, it's I
don't think people nowadays feed

1031
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,690
into colorism as much because
like I say, I have brown skin,

1032
01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:06,090
children and light skinned
children. I treat them equally I

1033
01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:09,990
make them equal responsible. But
like I said, what we're dealing

1034
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:16,260
with is from the past. These are
these are very old mindsets. But

1035
01:13:16,710 --> 01:13:20,670
as you know, with any privilege,
people want to point it out when

1036
01:13:20,670 --> 01:13:24,270
it doesn't benefit them, of
course. And it's amazing that he

1037
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:26,640
openly said, Oh yeah, I've
benefited from light skinned

1038
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,610
privilege. But going back to the
TED talks from the Black Lives

1039
01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:38,790
Matter. clips that we heard
before there was one clip that

1040
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:42,390
Miss Alicia Garza said that I
found interesting.

1041
01:13:43,230 --> 01:13:46,920
The reality is that race in the
United States operates on a

1042
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,580
spectrum from black to white
doesn't mean that people who are

1043
01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:54,330
in between don't experience
racism, but it means that the

1044
01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:58,470
closer you are to white on that
spectrum, the better off you are

1045
01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:02,160
and the closer to black that you
are on that spectrum, the worse

1046
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,790
off you are.

1047
01:14:04,050 --> 01:14:10,770
Yeah. So even she acknowledges
it. So going back to I'm not I'm

1048
01:14:10,770 --> 01:14:15,930
not pro Deray I think he's
honestly this is the snake

1049
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,790
eating its tail. situation.
Yeah, I'm just standing about

1050
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:25,230
looking like eggs but you knew
this. I could have told you this

1051
01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:28,260
was gonna happen. I could have
told you d Ray was gonna play

1052
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:32,850
that. He was going to play the
color risk card, which he hasn't

1053
01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:35,760
yet but I mean, really play but
that's

1054
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,330
really reviving some old shit
that has no place in society in

1055
01:14:39,330 --> 01:14:42,540
black society anymore, but yet
it's being used.

1056
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:52,620
Well, yeah, it's aggressive,
great point. It but that goes to

1057
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:57,900
show you that any privilege can
be used even though it may not

1058
01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:01,560
be functional. I will Say this
and I want to challenge you to

1059
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:09,870
do something is not only is not
only in our minds, the mass

1060
01:15:09,870 --> 01:15:15,510
media has something to do with
this. And the reason I say this

1061
01:15:15,540 --> 01:15:20,370
is watch television on a
commercial, you will never see a

1062
01:15:20,370 --> 01:15:29,490
man with a woman darker than him
except Barack Obama. Well,

1063
01:15:29,490 --> 01:15:32,040
that's why he got so many
credentials in the black

1064
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,690
community. And he understood
that. And he understood that.

1065
01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:43,530
He's, I have to go get, you
know, the most system I can

1066
01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:47,850
find, and you know, and bathed
in that. Yeah. Oh, Kamala

1067
01:15:47,850 --> 01:15:51,690
Harris. Yeah, colorism has an
issue. She has a colorism

1068
01:15:51,690 --> 01:15:56,730
problem. She's darker than Cora.
But she's lighter than Stacey

1069
01:15:56,730 --> 01:15:58,170
Abrams. Bingo.

1070
01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:02,010
Enjoy reach get off TV.

1071
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,930
But that's why Jerry gets away
with murder. Yeah. Yeah, that's

1072
01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:09,990
why it's why are we getting away
with murder? If Joy Reid was,

1073
01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:15,300
uh, okay, say Joy read compared
to I, um, what's the lady's

1074
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:16,920
name? It's always on CNN.

1075
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:21,990
Anna of Cabrera. No,

1076
01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:25,530
no, no. She's bear skin.

1077
01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:27,300
Oh, Ray.

1078
01:16:29,790 --> 01:16:31,440
Right, right, right. Right. Um,

1079
01:16:31,530 --> 01:16:35,610
Angela, Angela. Rai, rai.
Angela. Right. Why do I know all

1080
01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:37,380
these black people? Oh, come on.

1081
01:16:38,130 --> 01:16:39,720
Because she's a great Twitter
man.

1082
01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:43,620
Angela, right. Yes, we got.

1083
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:52,140
Angela right was to say some of
the things that darker skin

1084
01:16:52,140 --> 01:16:58,860
woman has said and you just said
her name got off today. But Joy

1085
01:16:58,860 --> 01:17:01,830
Joy was the dark skinned lady
for Ms. Embrace Joy read or read

1086
01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:06,210
if Jory. Drewery words would
come out of Angela Ross. Now she

1087
01:17:06,210 --> 01:17:11,670
would be canceling. Let's be
let's be clear on this. But when

1088
01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:17,280
you're dealing with why society,
Shaun King says to get into make

1089
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,620
people feel more comfortable.
And we're talking about liberals

1090
01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:23,610
here. Let's be we're not talking
about conservatives. We're

1091
01:17:23,610 --> 01:17:27,540
talking about liberal, the most
liberal thinking people he even

1092
01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:31,170
acknowledged that his light skin
makes people feel more

1093
01:17:31,170 --> 01:17:38,160
comfortable. So that makes you
wonder, okay. There, his light

1094
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:42,000
skin has become an issue clipped
when

1095
01:17:42,660 --> 01:17:45,630
I have tremendous respect for
the work that he's done. But

1096
01:17:45,630 --> 01:17:50,730
when you're if you hold yourself
up to something, that is not

1097
01:17:50,730 --> 01:17:53,460
what you claim to be, then
that's a problem if you're a

1098
01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:55,770
leader, not now, I'm not saying
that he's doing that. But that

1099
01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:58,170
is what's in question now. And
that's why this story is

1100
01:17:58,170 --> 01:18:00,570
newsworthy you here's what he
said to me. So I asked him about

1101
01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:03,270
it, because there are all these
claims about him. Whether he's

1102
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,680
black, white, biracial, or
whether he's was there a civil

1103
01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:11,820
hate crime that happened him
back in 1995. And I said to him

1104
01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:13,950
last night, I said, What would
you like to convey? And he said,

1105
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,550
number one, this attack isn't
about me so much, but about

1106
01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:19,920
derailing Black Lives Matter and
the movement against police

1107
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,010
brutality. And he said number
two, the reports are all lies. I

1108
01:18:23,010 --> 01:18:26,880
tried hard to debunk them and
others have said as a and others

1109
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,060
have said that they are lies as
well. And then he said I will

1110
01:18:30,060 --> 01:18:33,120
speak soon. And I asked him
specifically I said you know are

1111
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,600
you legally black? Are you
legally white? Or are you

1112
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,300
biracial? Are you black or
white? He says I am biracial.

1113
01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:41,220
And I said is that what it is on
your birth certificate?

1114
01:18:41,370 --> 01:18:50,040
He did not answer I'm gonna say
this. And I'm not a burglar. I

1115
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,990
didn't see that birth
certificate. I didn't say it.

1116
01:18:55,020 --> 01:19:02,220
Yeah, he. Shaun King. People go
look at him. He never struck me

1117
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:10,830
to be a black guy. He never want
struck me to be black. As we

1118
01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:14,580
pointed out on this show, when
you're good for the movement.

1119
01:19:16,050 --> 01:19:21,840
They give you a pass. Right? The
reason why I say that is we

1120
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:23,400
recall Miss Rachel dollars.

1121
01:19:26,490 --> 01:19:27,720
Oh, my favorite.

1122
01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:30,900
Well, Martha, I'll be honest
with you until a few days ago, I

1123
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:34,890
thought he was a white dude. I
had no idea that he was

1124
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,490
pretending or telling people
that he was black. And I know

1125
01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:41,010
some people out there are asking
that very question that you just

1126
01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:43,260
had right now. Well, why does
this matter? It matters because

1127
01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:46,440
for the past year, we have had
heard this phrase white

1128
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:50,340
privilege thrown around thrown
in people's faces. It's been

1129
01:19:50,340 --> 01:19:53,970
used as a as a way to divide. I
mean, this isn't Shaun King, by

1130
01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:56,820
the way isn't the first Rachel
Dolezal Elizabeth Warren was the

1131
01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,940
first one Rachel Dolezal was the
second Rachel Dolezal. And now

1132
01:19:59,940 --> 01:20:03,570
He's the third and it just seems
incredibly ironic.

1133
01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:10,200
And he was born in Kentucky. And
I was just I just brought up a

1134
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:15,150
picture, take a look at it. I
mean, he could be Latino for all

1135
01:20:15,150 --> 01:20:17,880
I know. And even then he'd be
very, very light skinned.

1136
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:26,640
Very light skin. And if, like I
said, he's never struck me to

1137
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,360
be. I mean, when I saw him, I
didn't say that. Oh, that's a

1138
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,040
black guy. Um,

1139
01:20:33,660 --> 01:20:36,660
I'd like to see him with. I'd
like to see him with his hair

1140
01:20:36,660 --> 01:20:40,110
longer than I'd get a better
idea is to do the hair

1141
01:20:40,110 --> 01:20:45,330
test. And he and he's, he's did
the chameleon thing. He's

1142
01:20:45,330 --> 01:20:50,730
embraced the black hairstyle,
the mustache. Yeah, you know,

1143
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:55,740
saying way Rachid dollars out,
which was a 100, Complete 100%

1144
01:20:56,430 --> 01:21:01,800
Complete white woman. Don't
remember when she put the braids

1145
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,490
in the skin tone, or Tanner, or
however you want to call

1146
01:21:05,490 --> 01:21:09,930
it. She? She identified as black
and she ran a local chapter of

1147
01:21:09,930 --> 01:21:12,750
the NAACP was fantastic. A great
story.

1148
01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:19,650
But the So why did we counsel
her. And Shaun King gets a pass

1149
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:19,920
because

1150
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,940
she, her parents came out and
said she's white. And that's I

1151
01:21:23,940 --> 01:21:25,710
don't know, Shaun King's parents
are.

1152
01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:33,150
Right. But for you to say, Ah,
you don't bring for your birth

1153
01:21:33,150 --> 01:21:40,680
certificate. issues. But as we
saw with Gandhi, as we saw with

1154
01:21:41,550 --> 01:21:48,570
Cesar Chavez, and we saw with
it, as long as the imagery is

1155
01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:51,570
good for the movement, we'll
give you a pass. And we knocked

1156
01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:54,540
out this is not only exclusive
to Shaun King, the lady brought

1157
01:21:54,540 --> 01:22:03,210
up with with Elizabeth Warren.
She got a pass. Oh.

1158
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,160
You mean the whole Pocahontas
thing? Yeah, absolutely. She

1159
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,120
appropriating somebody whose
culture? Yes. When she gets a

1160
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,660
pass because she's for the
greater good. And this is this

1161
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:18,240
is their thought pattern for the
greater good. But

1162
01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:21,540
when you say the greater good,
we're talking about the greater

1163
01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:25,020
good for the money that the
pizza for the people who are

1164
01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:28,140
holding the money who are going
to give the money. Right? They

1165
01:22:28,140 --> 01:22:29,880
are great for the movement

1166
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:34,140
for the for the right for the
greater good. If we can make the

1167
01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:38,040
story go away. And in the clip
before the last one we played

1168
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,120
that was Don Lemon. Now that he
was supposed to press Shaun

1169
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,920
king, but everybody has hands
off. This is what I think

1170
01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:52,560
everybody has the hands off on
Shaun King. Whenever you can

1171
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,810
motivate are the raising of $30
million. Yeah, you're gonna be

1172
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:00,330
the money's going somewhere.
Yeah, and you're the boss,

1173
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,100
you're not gonna you're not
gonna you're not going to be

1174
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:07,050
canceled and a is not exclusive
to him. Because the same way.

1175
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,530
Elizabeth Warren Warren's not
canceled because she's the front

1176
01:23:10,530 --> 01:23:13,800
runner for the Democratic
nomination. She is the leading

1177
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:21,180
woman candidate. And she wasn't
canceled. But let's listen to

1178
01:23:21,810 --> 01:23:23,580
shocking dollars out too.

1179
01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:26,070
I mean, he had once suggested to
a friend of mine, Lawrence

1180
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:28,620
Jones, who was a black
conservative that he wasn't

1181
01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:31,260
black enough somehow. I mean,
I've watched this guy sit here

1182
01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:33,960
and call people white
supremacist and use the term

1183
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,140
white privilege and throw around
these terms. So yeah, if you're

1184
01:23:37,140 --> 01:23:39,390
going to kind of throw around
those terms and be out in

1185
01:23:39,390 --> 01:23:42,810
someone's face as the judge and
jury of blackness or whiteness.

1186
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:46,110
And this comes up, and there are
records showing that your dad is

1187
01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:48,630
white. Yeah, it does become an
issue because it shows that it's

1188
01:23:48,630 --> 01:23:49,950
ironic and you're a hypocrite

1189
01:23:49,950 --> 01:23:53,100
and if the color doesn't matter,
Endo, then why throw all of

1190
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:55,920
those, you know those phrases
around from him?

1191
01:23:57,210 --> 01:23:59,580
Well, I don't know what phrases
you're referring to. But even

1192
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:02,190
Jesus, when asked about his
brother and his mother said,

1193
01:24:02,250 --> 01:24:05,400
those people that do my Father's
will and obey what He says those

1194
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,580
of my brothers and sisters,
about God being blessed and

1195
01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:12,720
standing with and you know, as
much as I like to hear, Dana,

1196
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:14,280
I'm gonna have to go with Jesus.

1197
01:24:16,710 --> 01:24:21,600
You can't can't argue that map.
Now you you what you've just

1198
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:26,850
witnessed is a Mind Control
technique presented by the Male

1199
01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:31,860
Speaker In this clip, to my
control black people. As we've

1200
01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:34,560
listened before, who do we say
was on the wall?

1201
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:39,780
Yeah, we got Jesus we get well
now or before, before before

1202
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,820
MLK. Malcolm

1203
01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:45,690
X. News? No, it was Malcolm X
JFK,

1204
01:24:45,780 --> 01:24:49,170
JFK and Jesus. I'm sorry. Yeah,
you're right. And now replaced

1205
01:24:49,170 --> 01:24:50,970
by Oprah. Beyonce.

1206
01:24:52,350 --> 01:24:55,860
Is Jesus still there? Now, now
he was replaced.

1207
01:24:58,050 --> 01:24:58,770
Serena Williams

1208
01:24:59,700 --> 01:25:03,030
Well, You know, I gotta say she
is kind of Jesus. I'll give her

1209
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:03,630
that. Right.

1210
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:08,490
So, but as you're saying it was
that was that was a deliberate?

1211
01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:15,180
Yeah, Mind Control answer to say
it, you're saying energy Jesus.

1212
01:25:16,050 --> 01:25:20,760
And so the conversation to I
hate to say the word again, to

1213
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,750
my control black people, right
now Jesus said Who's my brother

1214
01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:29,160
who's my mother? You know, how
does that even equate? And in a

1215
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:36,480
previous back and forth between
these two people? He interjected

1216
01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:41,820
MLK talking points. Yeah. Okay.
So he said he's using the

1217
01:25:41,820 --> 01:25:46,110
triggers he was he was
triggering black people 100%

1218
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:49,200
Because he says, It's not about
the color your skin but the

1219
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,700
context of your character. Yeah.
Oh, hi. So this guy was It was

1220
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,420
disgusting. It was disgusting
what he did there. And you see

1221
01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:02,790
they're pulling all stops out to
protect Shaun king. But Malcolm

1222
01:26:02,820 --> 01:26:09,480
X warned us about people like
Shaun King, and how liberals

1223
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:10,800
will use them 00.

1224
01:26:11,850 --> 01:26:15,150
I'm suspicious of whites who
join negros and always have to

1225
01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:18,030
be in the league, who always
have to be the head who always

1226
01:26:18,030 --> 01:26:22,200
have to be at the top in Negro
organizations, those whites who

1227
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,780
really have the interest of
blacks at heart, let them give

1228
01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:27,660
some advice to some negros and
stand on the sidelines. But

1229
01:26:27,660 --> 01:26:30,390
don't join the organization and
then get out ahead of it, and

1230
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:32,610
pose as a friend of negros.
Today,

1231
01:26:32,610 --> 01:26:35,760
you could point to a large
number of negro leaders who have

1232
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,910
consistently betrayed negros and
a whole host of era,

1233
01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:41,400
they aren't really negro
leaders, these are puppets that

1234
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,830
have been put in front of the
Negro community by white

1235
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:47,100
liberals. These are parents that
have been put in front of the

1236
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:50,820
Negro community by white
liberals, you can't name me, a

1237
01:26:50,820 --> 01:26:54,330
negro leader who has been a
negro leader who has been

1238
01:26:54,330 --> 01:26:57,630
betrayed who has betrayed
Negroes who is not who has not

1239
01:26:57,630 --> 01:27:02,460
been endorsed, sanction,
subsidized and supported

1240
01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:06,300
by the white number. Yeah, that
sounds like Malcolm X, that's

1241
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:06,810
for sure.

1242
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:13,500
So to bring out the point, and
what he's saying is, before we

1243
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:18,750
can even get off the ground, we
have to always deal with these

1244
01:27:18,750 --> 01:27:25,290
infiltrators. Oh, and this is
what the claim that directors

1245
01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:30,420
making not that he's a white guy
or anything like that, but just

1246
01:27:30,420 --> 01:27:33,660
that this guy's misappropriating
funds, he's stealing money, you

1247
01:27:33,660 --> 01:27:39,360
know, he's disingenuous these
things is only what C D Re is

1248
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:44,970
self serving. Where are you at?
When you're waha, hop, right.

1249
01:27:45,810 --> 01:27:49,620
And let's not forget, we started
clips before D Ray was accused

1250
01:27:49,620 --> 01:27:54,060
of the same thing,
misappropriating funds, stealing

1251
01:27:54,060 --> 01:27:57,120
Shawn from the people on the
ground of Ferguson. So like I

1252
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:03,690
said, this is the snake eating
its tail. So this, this is where

1253
01:28:03,690 --> 01:28:10,980
we're at with this story. But as
I did some more digging, as I

1254
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:20,460
always do. I found out I found a
potential smoking gun, Tom

1255
01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:21,720
Joyner Shaun King one.

1256
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:25,200
But the most important thing we
can do, I'm going to shave most

1257
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,160
of my work on this and 2018 The
most important thing we can do

1258
01:28:29,340 --> 01:28:34,620
is to let the progressive woke,
conscious, reform minded

1259
01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:39,330
prosecutors. No single
individual plays a bigger role

1260
01:28:39,330 --> 01:28:42,060
in the criminal justice system
in this country than the

1261
01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:43,050
district attorney.

1262
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:48,690
Ah, I knew you'd get to the
Soros sisters eventually. Love

1263
01:28:48,690 --> 01:28:52,920
it. That is you. Right. That is
ground zero right there when

1264
01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,810
that's come out. Kamala Harris,
that's who's in Chicago. I mean,

1265
01:28:57,810 --> 01:28:58,650
it's everywhere now.

1266
01:28:58,770 --> 01:29:05,640
Kim Fox, Kim Fox, yes. I have a
list of like 1015 names. And

1267
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:10,260
like I said these things. These
people are aligning on one

1268
01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:16,740
agenda. That's two what two
agendas, but one is here that

1269
01:29:16,740 --> 01:29:22,230
illustrate one the flipping the
House and the Senate. As you've

1270
01:29:22,230 --> 01:29:27,030
heard Cardi B say, she said we
Yep. We got. Yeah. She said we

1271
01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:33,810
know she said we got out. Right.
And now. You have a Shaun King,

1272
01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:39,090
who's on Tom's doing a radio
show. With Tom Joyner.

1273
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:43,470
I remember I have high high
regard for Tom Joyner. I'm

1274
01:29:43,470 --> 01:29:46,830
hoping that he pushed back on
Shaun King in this interview.

1275
01:29:47,850 --> 01:29:55,140
Hell no. You know, why? Don't
you know why? Tom Joyner is a

1276
01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:58,050
business associate of news one.

1277
01:29:58,110 --> 01:30:01,680
Wow. No. Okay, guys. Got it.
Radio One. Yeah.

1278
01:30:01,860 --> 01:30:06,330
Now you've heard why the first
clip was so important. Oh, yes.

1279
01:30:06,330 --> 01:30:08,580
So protective of Shaun king.

1280
01:30:09,150 --> 01:30:12,330
And I liked Tom Joyner. Oh, man.

1281
01:30:15,210 --> 01:30:19,620
But Tom Joyner, he's, he's all
nonsense. I mean, not saying

1282
01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:24,030
like that, but he's not trying
to pick fights. He's not trying

1283
01:30:24,030 --> 01:30:28,500
to make enemies in high places.
He gets shot to the platform.

1284
01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:32,550
You come on, you say your spiel,
you know, you know, I'm not

1285
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:35,730
gonna push why this point in his
career with Tom during the push

1286
01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:38,310
back. Now, you could look it on
University. What do you have to

1287
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:39,450
lose? Right?

1288
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:44,040
But why now? These kinds of
people? The OG Charlemagne in a

1289
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:44,400
way,

1290
01:30:45,210 --> 01:30:52,680
right? That's I'm learning Yes.
Yeah. Yes, yes. And just to go

1291
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:58,800
to show you why we say why is
black right now we have we us

1292
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,920
another common themes in the
show that we were doing here or

1293
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:08,160
this conversation, repeatedly is
black radio. Yeah. Black radio

1294
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:17,010
is so influential and black
culture. Because it's access to

1295
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:23,580
free entertainment. In your car,
as you set your dance, yeah. You

1296
01:31:23,580 --> 01:31:28,740
know, um, and it's kind of
waning now. Oh, you are you

1297
01:31:28,740 --> 01:31:31,860
know, satellite radio with
satellite radio when people with

1298
01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:36,360
cords and Bluetooth? You know,
it's kind of at answer black

1299
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:40,080
radio, but black radio at one
time was the end all be all?

1300
01:31:40,590 --> 01:31:47,430
Oh, for sure. And when I worked
in New York, the C 100. Which

1301
01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:51,300
for sure. Cracker White Station?
You know, the the biggest

1302
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:56,700
competition was BLS was K to
you. I mean, yeah, the black

1303
01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:59,910
radio was as always been very
successful in urban markets for

1304
01:31:59,910 --> 01:32:04,110
sure. Because it's, it's access
free access. Yeah.

1305
01:32:04,140 --> 01:32:08,490
Um, with the FM radio, you can
dive right in. And if you need

1306
01:32:08,490 --> 01:32:14,490
to put a talking points out
there. It is free over the radio

1307
01:32:14,490 --> 01:32:20,040
waves. So now we see from the
beginning, the first clip to the

1308
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:27,660
end. Shaun King is the eighth
guy. Yeah, he's he's the IT guy.

1309
01:32:27,660 --> 01:32:29,910
He's protected. Because I when I
heard that first clip, I was

1310
01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:35,070
like, why is this guy? He's not
even being fair. You know, I'm,

1311
01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:38,310
you know, giving both sides of
the story because I read both

1312
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:41,970
articles. And I was waiting for
him to drop some of the talking

1313
01:32:41,970 --> 01:32:46,500
points of D array. And it wasn't
there. It was all well, Shawn,

1314
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:53,010
you know, job seven, two page
report and everything. Nothing

1315
01:32:53,010 --> 01:32:56,430
to see here. Seven panels
sandwich seven person panel was

1316
01:32:56,430 --> 01:33:00,240
being cleaned up, nothing to see
here. So I'm like, why is that?

1317
01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:03,810
And then and then when I looked
at I was at our radio. I mean,

1318
01:33:03,810 --> 01:33:10,200
news one is a product of radio
one. And then that's why it's

1319
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,010
just a little behind the scenes.
I was freaking out when right

1320
01:33:14,010 --> 01:33:19,380
before we were doing the show.
Because the podcast monsters

1321
01:33:19,380 --> 01:33:21,690
didn't want me to have that
clip. I just play.

1322
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:26,760
It was trying not to get on the
air. But we got it. Yeah,

1323
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:34,200
right. We shut him down. I mean,
because now you see. He is part

1324
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:39,570
of the star Oh, sisters
apparatus. Now why? Why is that?

1325
01:33:39,570 --> 01:33:42,660
I don't know. But maybe he'll
shine light on Tom Joyner is

1326
01:33:42,660 --> 01:33:43,290
part two,

1327
01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:48,150
our nation has 2300 of them
operating in every county and in

1328
01:33:48,150 --> 01:33:53,010
every medium to large city in
America. No roll. No bigger

1329
01:33:53,010 --> 01:33:57,450
person has a larger impact on
who goes to jail and who

1330
01:33:57,450 --> 01:34:01,290
doesn't. Who gets prosecuted and
who doesn't? Then the district

1331
01:34:01,290 --> 01:34:05,820
attorney, no single person plays
a bigger role in whether or not

1332
01:34:05,820 --> 01:34:09,300
corrupt and violent police are
not only charged with crimes,

1333
01:34:09,450 --> 01:34:14,640
but also get convicted, then the
DEA, they are essential. And let

1334
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,640
me tell you something that's
both shocking and disgusting.

1335
01:34:18,660 --> 01:34:24,660
Over the 2300 elected TAs in the
United States, 95% of those

1336
01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:30,420
elected TAs are white. And 81%
of them are white men in a

1337
01:34:30,420 --> 01:34:36,120
nation that's on its way to
becoming a country of color. 95%

1338
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,820
of district attorneys are white,
and they are largely

1339
01:34:38,820 --> 01:34:42,330
conservative. It may very well
be the whitest most

1340
01:34:42,330 --> 01:34:45,870
conservative, male dominated
profession in America,

1341
01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:48,870
then I'm sure that's absolutely
right.

1342
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:55,230
So let me ask this question. So
95% are white right so that

1343
01:34:55,230 --> 01:35:01,680
means 5% of non white have their
fiber sent Kamala Harris was one

1344
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:08,490
of those 5% How does she do
anything different? Then, you

1345
01:35:08,490 --> 01:35:10,410
know, when she's liberal,
because he brought up

1346
01:35:10,410 --> 01:35:17,670
conservative, she's a female,
black liberal. What she locked

1347
01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:23,070
up people use people first,
basically slave labor. Oh, so

1348
01:35:23,070 --> 01:35:26,370
what's different? Well, I mean,
what do you expect different as

1349
01:35:26,370 --> 01:35:30,240
long as he you know, I don't
understand. Well, what is the

1350
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:30,540
goal?

1351
01:35:30,570 --> 01:35:33,150
When she does it? At least she
looks friendly. wished he was

1352
01:35:33,150 --> 01:35:33,300
she?

1353
01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:40,050
I think I think that's I don't
understand what we expect

1354
01:35:40,050 --> 01:35:40,740
differently.

1355
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,830
Well, let me let me get let me
take another take a stab at

1356
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:48,600
this. Because, you know, it's
always Oh source this source

1357
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,810
that and on the no agenda show,
we've talked about this,

1358
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:58,020
ultimately, very rich, the rich
elites want want to control

1359
01:35:58,020 --> 01:36:03,570
chaos, so they can protect their
own shit. And that's ultimately

1360
01:36:03,570 --> 01:36:06,060
what they want. They want to be
able to control it. Now, in this

1361
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:10,230
case, it's more of the same,
except you better believe that

1362
01:36:10,230 --> 01:36:12,360
Kamala Harris is under control.

1363
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,510
I totally agree with you. And as
you brought up on the no agenda

1364
01:36:18,510 --> 01:36:21,390
show, and maybe let's just
having heard this talking point.

1365
01:36:21,810 --> 01:36:25,920
Now we're starting to see these
more liberal da saying, well,

1366
01:36:26,340 --> 01:36:32,010
anything under $1,000 Right are
really a crime. You're so right.

1367
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:39,540
So, okay, now, if I'm a poor
person living in a poor

1368
01:36:39,540 --> 01:36:43,260
neighborhood, which crime
happens very high, and we're

1369
01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:48,270
seeing a high rate that $1,000
affects me differently than if

1370
01:36:48,270 --> 01:36:53,400
I'm, you know, some I'm one of
these people that make combined

1371
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:58,410
income of 350k limit in the same
gentrified neighborhoods. I was

1372
01:36:58,410 --> 01:37:00,540
just partying. I was just
reparations or whatever. Oh, no,

1373
01:37:00,540 --> 01:37:00,660
it's

1374
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,720
it's completely bullcrap. And
you know, California, certainly,

1375
01:37:07,770 --> 01:37:10,470
Los Angeles, and I think San
Francisco as well have have

1376
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:12,960
ordinances where it's like
anything, and I think it's, it's

1377
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,530
750 or 1000. But it's like
anything. We're not even going

1378
01:37:16,530 --> 01:37:18,690
to show up and the cops aren't
going to show up not going to do

1379
01:37:18,690 --> 01:37:22,500
anything. Can't deal with it.
It's what a crime of necessity I

1380
01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:27,030
think is the term. Yeah. Which
is lawlessness, really.

1381
01:37:27,420 --> 01:37:35,370
So But now, I'm going to put my
conspiracy tinfoil hat on. If

1382
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,900
I'm trying to get rid of poor
people, and Prom real estate.

1383
01:37:42,690 --> 01:37:46,470
And I can't drive them out. You
know what raising prices? What's

1384
01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:49,650
what's the first vehicle to rent
people out a neighborhood?

1385
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:50,790
crime, crime, crime?

1386
01:37:50,820 --> 01:37:58,620
high crime? You got it? Wow.
It's so cynical, man. It's so

1387
01:37:58,620 --> 01:37:59,400
cynical.

1388
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:07,170
Ah, no. But that's the only
that's the only the only way I

1389
01:38:07,170 --> 01:38:10,800
can look at it is. We've seen it
with the crack era, we've seen

1390
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,090
it with other influx of crime,
you know, they're gonna let

1391
01:38:15,090 --> 01:38:18,630
crime happen. It drives them out
of prom real estate areas that

1392
01:38:18,630 --> 01:38:23,280
have taken over by poor
minorities. That is not a black

1393
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,400
thing, you know, poor poor
people in general. And if we

1394
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,240
can't force them out, you know,
it gentrification has got to get

1395
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,340
in there black out right now. So
we can't, you know, just

1396
01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:35,910
gentrify them. Right. To make
them leave. Well, crime them up.

1397
01:38:35,940 --> 01:38:38,730
Yep. Yeah, we crowd them out.
And then you know, oh, well,

1398
01:38:38,730 --> 01:38:40,980
liquid, they did their own
communities. And

1399
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,040
yeah, and I'm sure the
redistricting, which is always

1400
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:48,540
done in the guise of we, you
know, like, Oh, we got to screw

1401
01:38:48,540 --> 01:38:50,760
the Republicans or the
Republicans are trying to screw

1402
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:56,100
us, but this would be another
great way to district crime into

1403
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:58,980
certain ads. It's an eye opener.

1404
01:38:59,910 --> 01:39:03,420
For sure. Yeah. Well, I can't
wait till Kamala Harris

1405
01:39:03,420 --> 01:39:05,460
is our president, it's gonna be
great.

1406
01:39:06,810 --> 01:39:07,890
That'll never happen.

1407
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,256
Wow, Moe. This was good, man.
This was good. I got a couple of

1408
01:39:13,311 --> 01:39:16,286
things to look into. But
definitely, I wonder what the

1409
01:39:16,341 --> 01:39:19,647
next round is going to be of
this, this medium fight because

1410
01:39:19,702 --> 01:39:22,788
you know, they've moved it
beyond Twitter. Personally, I

1411
01:39:22,843 --> 01:39:26,094
think the people will tune out
pretty soon. If they're, you

1412
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:29,455
know, if they're, if they want
to get in depth, they have to

1413
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:32,706
read 70 pages of financial
reporting. And you know, that's

1414
01:39:32,761 --> 01:39:35,847
kind of that's not how you
change public opinion. That's

1415
01:39:35,902 --> 01:39:38,547
not how things change,
typically, unless there's

1416
01:39:38,602 --> 01:39:41,853
illegality that can be proven,
but I haven't seen that yet.

1417
01:39:41,908 --> 01:39:42,900
From this back and

1418
01:39:42,900 --> 01:39:47,640
forth. Well, the 72 page report
works perfectly because he's

1419
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,490
like, I dropped a 72 page
report. It's all there, right?

1420
01:39:50,490 --> 01:39:54,510
Shut up. But you bury whatever
is there because people like

1421
01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:58,020
Greg got to gloss over by page
one or two. Yeah. And just

1422
01:39:58,020 --> 01:40:01,470
another example of these
mediums. articles are great for

1423
01:40:01,710 --> 01:40:04,530
screenshotting and then posting
on Twitter. That's how that's

1424
01:40:04,530 --> 01:40:07,740
how that thing works. You post
it there, then you highlight

1425
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:09,930
something you say you screenshot
it, and you post it back on

1426
01:40:09,930 --> 01:40:10,290
Twitter.

1427
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:15,630
Yeah, you're right. You're
right. Wow. Well Moe, thank you

1428
01:40:15,630 --> 01:40:20,070
very much for for a yet again,
an hour and a half of just

1429
01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:21,690
fantastic stuff.

1430
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,740
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I
hope all the listeners enjoy it

1431
01:40:25,740 --> 01:40:29,880
as well. And they find out you
in it. So yeah,

1432
01:40:30,540 --> 01:40:34,860
you burst my bubble here when it
comes to Tom Joyner. I'm a radio

1433
01:40:34,860 --> 01:40:39,090
guy. You know, Tom Joyner is
famous for doing two stations in

1434
01:40:39,090 --> 01:40:42,990
one day flying back and forth. I
mean, he's a fantastic radio

1435
01:40:42,990 --> 01:40:45,570
guy. But now that I hear that
he's all in. That's

1436
01:40:45,570 --> 01:40:55,470
disappointing. Oh, he's, he's
off the Christmas list. All

1437
01:40:55,470 --> 01:40:58,170
right, well, thank you very
much. Actually, I should back

1438
01:40:58,170 --> 01:41:00,750
this up for a second, I need to
remind everybody that you need

1439
01:41:00,750 --> 01:41:05,970
to go to MoeFactz.com. To find
out everything that's happening

1440
01:41:05,970 --> 01:41:08,160
with the show, but most
importantly, to donate, you can

1441
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,670
hear the amount of time that
this put into this program. What

1442
01:41:11,670 --> 01:41:15,210
do you value that at? What do
you spend your time on?

1443
01:41:15,210 --> 01:41:18,210
Otherwise, if you spend an hour
and a half somewhere for

1444
01:41:18,210 --> 01:41:21,450
entertainment or some education,
that's the kind of value I think

1445
01:41:21,450 --> 01:41:24,180
you should place on the work
that's being done here, then I

1446
01:41:24,180 --> 01:41:28,530
certainly really appreciate it.
I've learned every day. The gray

1447
01:41:28,530 --> 01:41:29,700
is getting darker

1448
01:41:32,820 --> 01:41:35,700
and we're not funded by anybody.
Let's just put that out there.

1449
01:41:35,730 --> 01:41:38,220
Oh, yeah. So you got to be
funded. We got to be funded by

1450
01:41:38,220 --> 01:41:38,640
you guys.

1451
01:41:38,670 --> 01:41:42,450
That's right. This is Moe Factz
with Adam curry episode number

1452
01:41:42,450 --> 01:41:45,300
seven MoeFactz.com. Thanks
again. Moe

1453
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,680
All right, thank you Adam. As
always say pay attention to

1454
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,600
everything and the truth will
reveal itself.

1455
01:41:52,110 --> 01:41:53,580
See you next week everybody.

1456
01:41:54,210 --> 01:41:57,720
You really don't understand.
Hey, man, don't you realize not

1457
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,330
a first to make this thing work
man. We've got to get rid of

1458
01:42:00,330 --> 01:42:03,420
them. Tamsin pushes into
prostitutes and it's not all

1459
01:42:03,420 --> 01:42:04,410
over again clean

1460
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,078
nobody's pushing me anyway okay.
I mean that you not the cops

1461
01:42:08,128 --> 01:42:11,018
nobody man I mean you want to
get rid of the pushes out to

1462
01:42:11,068 --> 01:42:13,260
help you but don't send your
people after me

1463
01:42:14,430 --> 01:42:53,315
Come on John can you see that we
can't get rid of one without

1464
01:42:53,953 --> 01:43:34,113
getting rid of the other we got
to come down on both of them at

1465
01:43:34,750 --> 01:44:12,361
the same time in order for this
whole thing to work for the

1466
01:44:12,999 --> 01:44:42,960
people nobody's closing me out
of our business.

