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Hey, gotta save face. Adam
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April 12 2018. This is your
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Buzzkill

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nice

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now

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that one on the fly are nice
came to me nice nice when that

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happens. You get a good one like
that. Oh yeah, that was a gym

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so every website that should be
funnier yes go on every website

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Wait a minute. Why are in
Holland and you went and you met

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the queen and the king? Yeah, I
did. Didn't do but did you also

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go see any of the royalty there

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See, I don't have Mike my
noisemakers I'd left them in the

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in the room. So I can't I can't
do my walker Walker said that

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all or virtually? No. Yeah,
actually had any now the only

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thing I have is the bill. I just
have a bill up playing that a

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lot. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
top it's top of the news here.

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Bob. I was I was headline news.
Oh, she did. You should send

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some of our posts some of the
articles

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about this Google. Adam curry.
You'll see it with so the idea

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being stuff you want to You're
right. What am I even thinking?

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I'm sorry? Being it baby. Is
that what you want to start

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with? I mean, not that it's like
top of the news in America.

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Well, I think it's, it gets it
out of the way. I think people

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want to know all right. Yes, I
was invited to the out blinkers

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lunch. And an out blinker means
you are a sparkler a twinkle or

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something that that that when
you are shine or I guess shine

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or you know shining star.
Deadwood it means the United

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States I'll blinker means that
you're you're passed out drunk

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in the alley. It's kind of the
same thing in Holland, I think.

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Except then you get to go visit
the king and the queen. So there

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are about 25 people and these
people who want interesting

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awards are achieved such things
as the fastest man to row across

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the ocean single handedly. When
ocean died the Atlantic Ocean

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No, actually, I think he went
around the world. Yeah, he did

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multiple oceans.

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Wow, yeah, must have a huge arm
guy with First of all, the guy

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was seven feet tall. And it was
just it was a beast, the beast

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of a guy. But then they'll you
know, then there's the top cop

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who's done something heroic, and
there was the very multi CultI

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so you had

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you know, like, actors couple of
like theater actors. Not really

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that well known. But you know,
it was obviously a very racist

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choice, you know, the first
black female to win the, you

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know, a certain theater acting
award.

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And it was almost presented like
that. It's like, Okay, how about

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just she was the actor who won
the Theatre Award. She was quite

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funny.

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Who else? Yeah, of the

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the immigrant Entrepreneur of
the Year. And then of course,

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the Marconi award winner. That's
pretty much how it goes.

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So far, so good. Yeah. So you
get to go well, apparently this

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is a thing where people are
hoping that they're on the list

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and then of course, I didn't
know anything about it and they

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don't didn't really explain that
until a couple of emails back

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and forth with the with the
ladies of the court, the king

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and queens court. So it get
there.

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You know, it's it's very similar
to my experience, I'm smacking,

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smacking Shut up. Let me get
through it. Okay.

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If you're gonna interrupt me on
every little thing, save

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every little thing, just every
every other thing? Well, let me

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just have a sip then.

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Onward. You always do this when
I'm excited about telling story

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always going to be trying to
calm me down so you're not so

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you don't start smacking and
saying weird things.

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First, it's very different from
the British Royal Palace. If you

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recall, yes, I'm collecting my
experiences. If you recall, when

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I went there, there was a big
reception room and with all

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kinds of cool paintings and this
is really one of the palaces I

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think they only do the Dutch one
that they were they only do

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reception so I don't think the
King and Queen stay there

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necessarily. So you go and you
go up the steps that it was kind

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of cool. They got the guards and
they immediately they put their

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swords up to their nose. There's
a picture of that coming. Of

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course I wasn't allowed to take
any pictures inside like please

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no pictures, no selfies. Now
they said no selfies they they

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must

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selfies is not the same as a
picture no pictures had just

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don't take any pictures as a
group photo at the end of the at

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the end of the. Yeah now so it
was from 12 to two I get there

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the 1130 does hide everybody
they take you up the marble

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start staircase. And yeah,
there's a little little

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welcoming drink. And you got all
the all the dudes in their

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little outfits. You know, would
you call them the henchmen who

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are serving drinks? When then
you're you know, you kind of

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didn't explain the protocol
though. I read the protocol as

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your backup, saying that I'm
imagining there's a big table.

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No, it's just standing like
reception really is just a

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cocktail. Exactly. high top
tables. I'm sorry, I'll try and

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do a better job. But still, it's
a one big white marble room with

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pillars and cocktail tables,
high tops, and we're high

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ceiling. Hot, very high. See,
this is the palace. And you

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know, but it's this it's kind of
empty. There's really nothing of

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any merit, no super art that I
noticed it just man, no big

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portraits just kind of bland,
kind of like a gumboot

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government function room.

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And the drinks, you know, no
alcohol was

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caused me. No, not not not not
at the stand up cocktail party.

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So there's a cocktail party with
no cocktail. Yeah, that's right.

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Yeah, that's exactly right. But
they had cassis no Cassidy's.

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Yeah. Cuz Sisa, CCl, we call it
classes here, which I hadn't had

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in years. So I had one of those,
then, you know, I had looked at

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the protocol book because I know
I think that's kind of proper.

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In the i n the only rules kind
of are you don't speak unless

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you're spoken to. You don't
reach out your hand to shake

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their hands unless they do it.
You know, they reach out to

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yours. If the king or queen
stands up, you stand up you you

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wait until the the King and
Queen says you can sit and then

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you sit and that's pretty much
it.

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Well, I'd wanted to do it right.
I want to be good. You can't You

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look like an idiot if you
didn't. But I just imagined that

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people stand scared to death
stiff. Well, so then what? So

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we're not really told anything
but please stand in a big you

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formation, alright, and a big U
formation a moment the king

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queen come out. And they will go
around and they'll say hi to

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everybody. And I was number two.
And then number one, some

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business guy who I actually I
knew I'd met him a long time ago

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that he'd wants a Business
Innovation Award is it's kind of

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like you got an award you can
get to see the kick in the coin.

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It was got to be a funky one.
Yeah, okay. So they come in. And

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you know, the first the king at
the end he says, Ah, I'm so

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happy to meet you in person.
Finally, I was a little a little

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a little flub flabbergasted,
really? It was nice to see you

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in person to majesty. Oh, yeah.
You have to say, majesty, my

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state.

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And yeah, that's okay. That's
kind of nice. And then the

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queen, she think you should have
roiled over that one. What do

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you mean, roiled? Oh, I should?
I wouldn't, I don't Okay, but

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what do you say something the
Americans should not put up

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with, with this sort of majesty
thing? Like, oh, great leader. I

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wonder if Kim Jong Un expects
that from Dennis Rodman? I don't

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think so. Maybe he does. I don't
know. Well, I think that after

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this first meeting, next time I
see the king, we might be able

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to be hanging out a little bit
more informed to

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relax.

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The queen of the Nice to meet
you. Nice to meet you. And all

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right, then go around. And then
the king just said, it's great

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to have everybody here. And I'm
glad to small, small company.

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And we'll go in we'll make sure
we we sit with all of you. And

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let's have a nice lunch. And so
the doors open as lunch. Yes,

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it's lunch, the doors open. And
there are four round tables. And

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I had my seating assignment. I
was sitting right next to the

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king. And the king was at table
one. And then you had the Queen

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was at table three. And the idea
was after the main course the

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bed roll Miranda notice. Didn't
they switch? Exactly? Yeah.

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Well, I don't they have four
tables. They also have two empty

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seats and the other tables they
sit there Well, now they had two

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of the ladies, though, you know,
the ladies in waiting when a

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ball roll on his thigh the
business ladies.

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You're telling me that two of
the tables never had a visit of

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the from the queen or the king?

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No, each No. No, they switched.
So the other day I went to every

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table. Yeah. So that there was
no blank. There was no blank

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seats left for no, they had some
stooge in their place. Well, not

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a seat person like, oh, no, no,
the ladies who are in charge of

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the social calendar, they're
very highly educated, well

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spoken, you know, fashionably
dressed women who, you know,

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they're, you know, they keep you
busy, they animate you. They

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keep you totally engaged, and
they can answer all questions,

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but they do leave those seats
and the king said, Sir ventually

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Yeah, yeah, so you bet you
either got the king or the

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queen, not both. What was the
well, of course, what was the

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rotation time? Was it 15
minutes? It was it was one and

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it's one row

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Station and it was after the
main course.

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So I really got the king along
his way me there's only one I

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thought there had to be for
rotation. Oh okay. The king one

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tabled Queen another table the
two ladies are at the the other

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tables then the king and the
queen go to the tables where the

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ladies are at. So you either get
a king or a queen

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Oh, so in other words, are you
with me? There's one rotation

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that go the rotation is just you
get a king or a queen? Yeah,

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yeah, don't get the king and the
queen know exactly how that's

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thing. Not if your table one
next to the king. It doesn't.

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Yeah, well, no, it's fine for
you when you never got to sit

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next to the Queen. Well, I chat
up. I chatted up the queen for

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20 minutes. But if you let me
get through the story,

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but she wasn't at the table.
That was it was better than

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that. Let me get to the story.
All right. I just don't care

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about you. I'm sympathizing with
the guests who got screwed in

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this. Yes. If you're a guest who
was who started off with a lady

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in waiting and then you got the
queen? I think he got gypped

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Yeah, I agree. Yes. Then I
believe there was a hierarchy

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and all this just looking at the
seating arrangement. I was next

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to the king. Yeah, you've made
that clear.

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And so we're all standing and
the king is standing and he's

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waiting for everyone to come in
and what's behind their chairs

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and the king says please
everyone Oh, please have a seat.

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Have a seat. I'll sit down in a
minute. Yes. Nice. Oh, okay. The

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Kings kind of cool. Until we all
sit down and there's a menu and

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I took a picture of the menu
actually took the menu home but

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I took a picture of it if you're
interested in the menu.

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I think you posted it and I
certainly didn't. Well, I didn't

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you send a copy to me. Ah, yes,
I did. Maybe really for the

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wine. Did you see the wine they
served?

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No, I don't remember it really
Premier Cru rubbers, say barley,

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Olivier le flav 2014

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Love flavor rules that was at
the white wine where you know

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that was the white wine. And it
was kind of it felt a little

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champagny little little
petulant. Is that the word pecha

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has a few bubbles. Yeah,
petulant. That's exactly what I

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liked it.

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Well, yeah, because the maker of
that wine. Le flav is one of the

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flavors flavors period, the
flavor, flavor, flavor, flavor

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flavor. He's the guy's a top
grower and burgundy of whites in

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particular. Because I looked it
up in the bottle is only like 35

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euros or something. It's not
crazy expensive. It's a cheapy

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it's Well, considering you're at
an event with a king but it is a

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cheap wine. I mean, it's not
what he should have served was a

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mantra che What a douche. But
no, he served you a cheap

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brewery. I am going I

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believe me this will get out.
What does that again? What did

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he was he supposed to serve?
Mantra che mantra che Okay,

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yeah.

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I'll write him a new love mantra
che to be exact. Okay, Lamont

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che Good. I'll send him a note

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for it, it seems to me maybe
they are on a budget maybe the

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red wine was no no, there was no
red 101 White that was that

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cheap white from one of the best
winemakers but oh yeah, it was

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definitely one of the best
winemakers I will say that that

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would be kind of a house wine at
this place here that I'm living

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to the king

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you know what? I think it is the
absolute it signal. It really

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shows you the Dutch but I'm
gonna get something from the

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best winemaker and I'm gonna
make it really cheap. That is

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the that's that's Dutch all the
way I have nothing but respect

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for the choice. Okay, well if it
was tasty It was tasty that's

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all that really kinky ended the
whole process Yeah, I liked it.

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I liked it very much it just
didn't you know they kept

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serving it via your glass was
half that's a plus. Oh yeah. Oh

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yeah. The guys poopoo bloop
right away right away that we

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kept serving it. They started
off and it was really it was

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beautiful. I mean, it looked
fantastic. I wouldn't say it was

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great. A great meal. It was kind
of basic but it you know when

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you have lightly smoked dove
with bird Dove Dove when you ate

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love Yeah.

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Dove Dove Dove. Yes. You know
when he dove in this country?

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Well, maybe it pairs well with
cheap wine flights. cheap

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flights. It fares great. We had
with what is this bird cream? I

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have no idea what bird cream is.
Some of it landed on my car.

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With horseradish. Horseradish
shots. It actually says shots

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Red beat Apple MoBay whatever
that is, though it was just like

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a cute little it was beautiful
as nocturia What do you expect

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yeah what's going on currently
twisty look nice that was hard

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it was hard on the plate and
then we had what is turbo

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mudfish is that what is that an
English I thought was a way they

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call it turbo hear about okay
yeah yeah with a light sauce of

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burn was it

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sugar snaps it literally says
sugar snap it on the monitor

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yeah maybe sugar snap yellow
squash Naki made of potatoes and

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peas peas in the oh that's an
interesting idea the other fried

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they were deep fried too that
was good

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but like that was what was odd
about it is that it so they had

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the big plate with this with the
main course on it and they go to

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the king and the king you know
be grabbed the utensils the you

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know the serving fork and spoon
puts everything on his plate

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they weren't serving and then so
went around everyone picked up

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the same you know serving things
which is really uncomfortable.

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Boy that's That sounds really
lame. Yeah cuz you know and the

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guy was on my left and you know
I'm not I know it's a weird

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stance like I'm I just don't
want to drop this piece of fish

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everywhere. I just want to
transfer it onto the blade

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properly. It was very strange.
I'm not sure why that etiquette

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is there. Probably some some,
you know, some socialist

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concept. You know that people
should be doing more work.

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Some like that. My guess? Yeah,
probably. Dessert was very

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interesting. It was a lemon
curd, marinated with an avocado

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marinated avocado and lemon curd
and guacamole with vanilla ice

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cream. Hold on a second.

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Say the whole thing over again.

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Is a short circuited. Yes, I
know. I'm real. I'm translating

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on the fly. But I'm still better
than Google Translate marinated

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avocado with lemon curd,
guacamole and vanilla ice cream.

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I heard the word avocado. I
think it must be Miss

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translating it. Why?

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What would you serve avec
marinated avocado. Which sounds

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like some like herring no
marinate and marinated in like

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vinegar and oil and vinegar. So
the way you Okay, so it's

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actually an avocado like in the
salad? Yes. With oil and

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vinegar. And then lemon curd?
Yes. On top of that was

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guacamole. What else? Vanilla
ice cream.

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Oh my God, it was dynamite. I
find that so hard to believe

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what? You got to try it. It was
really was nothing I'm gonna try

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I can assure you, but

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it's been because I like sweet
and sour. The I like sweet and

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sour chicken. Yeah, everybody
likes sweet and sour. But this

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is a combination of avocado and
ice cream itself is weird. Yeah,

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yeah. No, it looked weird on the
plate. I'll give you that

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was visualized it is like what?
What was nice lemon curd. What's

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the point? Ah, I don't know.
Decoration major whipped cream?

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No, I don't recall. I don't
think so. Doesn't say so. So I

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don't think so.

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Yeah, nice detail was people who
had had ordered vegetarian or I

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think vegan.

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Yeah, they had a whole separate
menu, separate courses just as

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beautifully made. It was nice.
That was nice touch anyway, for

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the removal of the flavor.
Right. That was part of the

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deal. So the king Yeah, he did a
little speech for everybody says

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up. And what was nice about it
is he said, In Holland, we have

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a tradition. And you and I've
spoken about this many times.

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You never want to grow higher
than the other blades of grass

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because you get your head
chopped off. He said, David,

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we're changing that. And we want
to celebrate those.

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They say that in Sweden, too. We
want to celebrate everybody who

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has done something special and
punishing them.

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So he goes around the table. Now
I'm last in line because he went

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counterclockwise and beyond. He
just started he was very well

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informed and knew who everybody
was and was asking questions. He

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I have to say he stayed a little
too long with actually the

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rowing guy that just went on,
you know, people kind of

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interested in him. Because he
was at sea for I don't know, 60

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days or so. It's just incredible
story. And a certain point that

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came and said yeah, but the
women were gathered around. Oh,

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yeah. No, yeah, they loved him.
Anyway, yeah. Handsome. seven

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foot tall beast. Yeah, he's been
at sea for years. Yes. Raw kinds

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of possibilities. This guy.

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Even the king like okay, well,
that was great. No, we're moving

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on to so that we have some other
things to talk about. And

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He's going around and then it
comes to me. I said, Well,

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majesty, I can't say I've done
the same that many of these

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people at the table have done
for the country. But at least I

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taught everybody how to
pronounce Madonna properly. This

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got a laugh. And you gotta
laugh. Yeah. Well, the king was

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like, Yeah, but we know what
you've been doing with with

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podcasting and what you've been
doing with digital media. And I

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was like, ah, yeah, I've been
and he said, you know,

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was he talking about writing
about the success of podcasting

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and then the, the actress, she
very inappropriately, but for

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some reason, she says, Oh, are
you a millionaire? Now? Like,

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yeah, it was she talking about?
I don't know. Because it was

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like all this stuff. Or the king
was talking about how the

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awesomeness of me and before I
can say anything even so even so

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it's better thing get asked
somebody very inappropriate. I'm

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sure did she regretted it? But

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it did before I could say
anything the king jumps in, he

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says, of course, he's a
millionaire because he was a

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billionaire. And then he got
into aviation with that

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helicopter company. Wow.

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Oh, man, they uh, he's a pilot.
He flies gave you the needle

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there. Oh, but it was pilot
humor. Because he flies this is

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pretty.

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This is fantastic. Yeah. And he,
he flies for KLM the bureau

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whenever he wants to, and he
will actually talk to I tried to

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fly three times a week, he goes
on regular

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round trips to Denmark or some
other, you know, within the EU,

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mostly 730 sevens. And
basically, I try to get to three

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flights a week, and

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just wrote down my notes.

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See what else but firstly, just
the I was just really nice and

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funny. And then not at all stuck
up. That which I kind of

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expected a little bit of that
maybe it was I thought maybe be

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kind of dumb. That is a little
bit the impression that has

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built up around him your
principles, you know, the, the

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drunk guy who's always hanging
out at parties.

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So I found to be very
knowledgeable. He said something

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interesting was we were talking
about

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and this was just a table
discussion about worldly events.

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He said, Yeah, we're very proud
of Holland. We've never had an

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attack here. And you know,
that's, that that really shows

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you what a great country are in.
Like, oh, man, shut up. Crew

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Shut up. Shut up. Shut up.

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Shut up, shut. I'm just not
gonna say anything at all. So

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then, but it's great. I liked
this guy. You know, we were

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joking about all kinds of stuff.
He's very funny. Oh, yeah. At

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one point, I can't remember how
it came up. But I just said, you

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know, up until this lunch,
majesty,

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the most impressive meeting ever
had was Steve Jobs. And he says,

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oh, man, things must be not
going to Oh, Steve Jobs just

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have no didn't didn't end up
very well. I think he kind of

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realized when I said that, that
he put his foot in it. But yeah,

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the guy the guy that was little
payback there for the aviation

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joke. The guy was nice. I like
him. Good King, very informed

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and call him up. Give a chat
once a week. You know, give him

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a call. Well, hold on get his
number. Did you get his sales

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and you get us not over? It's
not over? It's not over. So then

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I see the lady of the corner. My
eye she's coming over. It's time

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for the switch. I'm like, Okay,
I missed it. Hey, King sign for

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the switch. Yep, we gotta go sit
with someone else. And you know,

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be nice over there. And so I get
up as the King gets up, because

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I'd read the protocol book and
everyone else stay seated.

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Knocked it out of the park with
that little Oh, yeah. And the

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king says no one read the
protocol book and you knew that

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you're supposed to stand and it
gets better because the king

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says no, no, no, sit down. I
said, I read the protocol book.

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I'm supposed to stand up. He
says you're the only one and he

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comes over. He hugs me.

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I'm blown away. It's cute. Yeah,
it was cool now. So then one of

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the ladies waiting is sitting
there and we're chatting with

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her and I say Can I steal this
fork? She said no, no, no, no,

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you can't take anything say
really? Since you've got a

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towels now. Nothing you can take
so I did try. I wanted to be

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honest about it. So I was
allowed to take the menu great.

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And then should I steal this
fork? Yeah, they were beautiful

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it was it was nice nice flatware
Yeah, I know when you taken it

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wasn't nice flatware. Alright,
so then we're should have a set

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here. You should make sense some
do the suggestion box and I

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think this is a good idea
because I know when you go to

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the White House there's all
kinds of little souvenirs she

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gets to stuff Yeah, like match
that Yeah. I think they should

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have a souvenir fork. Yes.
Modeled after the real forget

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have a bunch of nonsense kind of
engraved on it. Yeah, little

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presentation box. Yeah, have the
date on it. Exactly. Did you get

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anything like that?

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No

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ring around the head.

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A metal the hanging off your
chest.

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Anything like that? No, I think
they send us a framed photo of

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the group photo. Oh, that
stinks. As I get into law eighth

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grade, eighth grade, Mrs. Rose.

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Then we walk out for coffee, and
coffee. We're back in the

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cocktail reception area. And the
king and queen are just

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mingling. And the queen comes
over and I'm talking with her

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for 20 minutes, just drinking
coffee. And she's very tall. And

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she I'd say, while she had five
inch heels on, I looked very

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closely what she was wearing,
because I know I had to report

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to a number of women in my life.
That I mean she's a very

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charming woman.

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deep brown eyes. Lots of
wrinkles around the eyes may

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have very little very little
makeup if maybe just a base

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almost nothing hair. This was
not a big public event. I don't

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even know if she washed it. It
looks stringy. I'll be honest.

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I'm being out. Yeah, yeah, a
little bit like a hippie girl.

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And by the way, but halfway
through this 20 minutes there

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was a hair flip. I just want to
say

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I'm like, oh, Hair flip

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gray. As you noted that that's
good. It's right next to me.

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There was a she hid in a face
with her hand or anything in the

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00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,780
process. Oh, no, no, there was a
such she was wearing a gray

434
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:32,100
pencil skirt that had bugged me
with the jackets. These details

435
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:35,160
are there are women who listen
to the show, John think about

436
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,760
the demo.

437
00:26:36,780 --> 00:26:40,770
The demo just for ski shoes
wearing a gray pencil skirt.

438
00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:44,400
Yeah, the problem was the jacket
was so many pencils doesn't make

439
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,030
it this is so ill fitting in the
back that this it was like she

440
00:26:48,030 --> 00:26:51,390
was holding a shoulder blades
back and it was kind of the

441
00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:55,740
purchase price was unacceptable
as it's like no one looked at it

442
00:26:55,740 --> 00:27:00,300
and said now that jacket is no
good. Only vintage jewelry. very

443
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,270
understated, but not really
pretty just like look like like,

444
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,180
oh, grandma's old stuff. I'm
sure it was grandma's old stuff.

445
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,300
You know, the old queen was
yeah, it was great. It was Oh,

446
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:13,200
sure. But yeah, nothing like
mind boggling. Just I was like,

447
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,010
no, what wasn't really
spectacular.

448
00:27:18,210 --> 00:27:21,660
That's just me. So then you
should listen.

449
00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:25,110
And she says, How's your
daughter?

450
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,120
She's great. Yeah. Did you see
that? She's doing all kinds of

451
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,780
fun things and yeah, and with
comparing notes as parents about

452
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:37,230
how my daughter's you know that
now you know, 15 I think they

453
00:27:37,230 --> 00:27:40,980
know everything. And it's just
you and your girlfriend or his

454
00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:43,740
wife, girlfriend. You know she
works at Brown mcdonald house.

455
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:45,930
Yeah, she runs the whole thing.
Yeah.

456
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,070
And she knew everything all the
stuff all these details he had

457
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:51,720
to dosi AOpen Yeah.

458
00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:56,220
Her two of them got together he
for the thing is What do you

459
00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:59,040
think we should talk about these
idiots? I think they they must

460
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,410
not know. Let's see what we got
here. I'm hoping Oh, look at

461
00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:03,540
this. This curry guys kind of
interesting.

462
00:28:07,530 --> 00:28:10,320
Then we all through the
Illuminati triangle and we went

463
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,450
downstairs for the groups photo.

464
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:17,520
And this is what I missed. The I
guess people knew about the

465
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,840
group photo. Because everyone's
like it. Well, I was chatting

466
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,330
with the queen. And then all of
a sudden, pretty much everyone's

467
00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:27,720
gone except me. The queen and
the king who's standing behind

468
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,400
her says maxima. It's time for
the group photo. And then OSHA.

469
00:28:32,550 --> 00:28:34,500
Then we start walking
downstairs. Of course everyone

470
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,350
ran down because if you're first
then you get to sit next to the

471
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:38,280
king and the queen.

472
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:41,640
Yeah, well, you get to hang out
with them. Right but I didn't

473
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,790
know about this. So we're
walking down maxima goes down

474
00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:47,130
first. The King is walking next
to me. We're still talking about

475
00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:51,330
flying about flying. Then but
and so of course I'm stuck in

476
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:53,790
the back behind what looks like
a corpse.

477
00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:57,510
Some lady hanging out with a
corpse now she was in front of

478
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:57,750
me.

479
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,450
I'm not sure what her what her
act was. But if you see the

480
00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:06,540
photo, it's like where's curry?
You know, half of my head is

481
00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:09,750
obscure. Dated lady looks like
she's dead.

482
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:14,130
Oh, dammit. I didn't get the
good photo.

483
00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:20,850
And yeah, then we do the photos.
And then it's tell you as two

484
00:29:20,850 --> 00:29:24,300
minutes to two everything's like
clockwork. And then everyone

485
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:27,660
says says goodbye. And then
you're out on the street.

486
00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:36,000
Al bam. Sounds like it sounds a
good afternoon. It was a great

487
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,190
afternoon. I had a lot of fun. I
did.

488
00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:41,130
And I appreciate it.

489
00:29:43,050 --> 00:29:47,010
It made me look like a superhero
here. People can't believe it.

490
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:48,780
Everybody wants to know What
were they like?

491
00:29:49,890 --> 00:29:51,480
It's very odd. That's the oddest
part.

492
00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:57,000
As if he I guess, yeah.

493
00:29:58,050 --> 00:29:59,970
Well, I think Did you get his
number I just

494
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,740
question I asked earlier, you
told me that you're going to

495
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:04,170
answer that. But you never did.
I do not have his number. But my

496
00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:06,750
feeling is I could probably
reach out to them and at least

497
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:07,920
give them the fork idea.

498
00:30:09,389 --> 00:30:11,519
Fork, it would be good. Yeah.
But I think they would

499
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:12,299
appreciate that.

500
00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:19,920
You know why that feeling? If I
send them the fork idea, they

501
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,030
might just send me a fork.

502
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:24,630
Well, that's good, too. Yeah,
that works for you. That's what

503
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:26,220
I mean. That's what that means
person.

504
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:30,270
Well, I think YouTube should
hang out. I'd like to.

505
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:36,990
Now you can corrupt him with no
agenda stop. God, is that I had

506
00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:39,810
to, I had to bite my tongue.
Like, I'm not doing this. I'm

507
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:42,750
not going to do this. Not going
to do it. It's better better to

508
00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:46,500
have a 30 minute story on the
show than to be thrown out of

509
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:47,100
the palace.

510
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,630
Place.

511
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,430
Exactly. guards came away.

512
00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:55,410
Anything else happened?

513
00:30:57,330 --> 00:31:03,120
Yes, I actually I've watched.
I've watched all of it. I'm glad

514
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,180
you got I got a few clips I
thought were important. Those

515
00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:08,970
are no good. He's no good. I
mean, all I had most of the

516
00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:11,490
times waste is saying senator
and Congressman, I guess

517
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:13,770
somebody asked the question.
Well, Senator, Senator, Senator,

518
00:31:13,770 --> 00:31:16,080
Congressman, Congressman,
Congressman, he, he got so

519
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,630
robotic about it. And when he
started talking about to a

520
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:22,050
woman, he said, Congressman, I
mean, Congresswoman, I Congress

521
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:24,570
behind me, this woman, I was
actually thinking we should

522
00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:27,150
address each other whenever we
talk like podcasts, or let me

523
00:31:27,150 --> 00:31:30,060
tell you about what's happening
in the news. You call each other

524
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:36,510
podcaster. Like guest a podcast.
I use the phrase zaqy Yes, and I

525
00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:39,900
didn't get this on. I really am
remiss for not catching this.

526
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:45,210
But during the live online feed
is Savannah Guthrie called them

527
00:31:45,210 --> 00:31:48,630
that I saw this catch on and
other places. I thought you had

528
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:51,300
gotten it from somewhere else. I
thought now that's not like you

529
00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:55,410
got it. Got it when I heard
Savannah Guthrie say it, and I

530
00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:58,350
didn't get it. And I was really
irked that I hadn't haven't have

531
00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:00,960
a recorder running because it
was live streamed and it didn't

532
00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:03,660
snow way of backing it up or
anything and when that happens,

533
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,820
and so she says zaqy I'm
thinking what so called Zims

534
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:13,110
Zuck, what kind of news person
are you when you do that? Isn't

535
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:17,550
there some kind of ethics or
some kind of ethics rule against

536
00:32:17,550 --> 00:32:20,730
doing that as a journo? Well,
we've is catching a lot of these

537
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:26,040
guys saying weird stuff in Star
Linus. Yeah. So I think

538
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,070
journalism is out of control.
Well, it's also part of the

539
00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:29,730
briefs.

540
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,430
I think it is part of the
briefs.

541
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:39,900
But zaqy I mean, Zuck is the is
the his word most? Yeah. Yeah.

542
00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:43,710
That's the the the brief. In
fact, I do want to mention

543
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:47,070
started off with this. I thought
this was the I only found this

544
00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:49,980
in Vogue magazine. They were
right. And apparently it

545
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:51,690
appeared in 2010.

546
00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:54,180
New Yorker profile.

547
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,080
It apparently around 2014, one
of his pals has saved saved his

548
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:02,910
saved his DMS.

549
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,310
And they gave it to the New
Yorker for this profile in 2010.

550
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:16,290
And it was about when he first
started off the face bag. And

551
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,660
the conversation was over text
text message went as follows.

552
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:28,200
Zuck after telling this, this
pal of his that he's got he's

553
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:30,300
starting this thing up. He's got
all these different people at

554
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:34,050
Harvard that are signed in, says
yes, so if you ever need info

555
00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:39,270
about anyone at Harvard, just
ask. I have over 4000 emails,

556
00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:45,390
pictures, addresses SMS, the
friend says, what, how did you

557
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:50,340
manage that one? Zuck says
people just submitted it. I

558
00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,360
don't know why they quote
unquote, trust me. Dumb

559
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,690
thoughts. This is you've never
seen this. I've seen this

560
00:33:57,690 --> 00:34:01,950
around. I haven't seen it
before. And so this is going

561
00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:06,810
around. In the in Vogue
magazine, we presented it. And I

562
00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:10,590
saw and I thought, ah, you know,
this is kind of summarize the

563
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:13,830
whole thing to me. Yeah. And it
has to be kind of taken.

564
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,550
That was I'm sure that's exactly
what he was thinking. He was

565
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:19,950
saying look at what's going on
is because it's all happening.

566
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:25,080
And after his face mash, you
know, this was right. What do

567
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,830
you write for that or something
I could probably get called in.

568
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,940
And

569
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:34,380
there wasn't one of these
congressmen did ask about face

570
00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:38,340
to face mass mash. And I liked
the way he does. Zakhar berg is

571
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:40,680
very well briefed.
Unfortunately, he was so well

572
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,500
briefed that they convinced him
to say senator and congressman

573
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,980
and senator in Congress Well, he
was also using that for thinking

574
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:52,890
time. Oh, obviously, yeah, that
and his well at face book.

575
00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:57,030
He's spending a lot of time but
let's listen to the face face.

576
00:34:57,060 --> 00:35:00,000
If people don't know about this,
Zuckerberg

577
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,920
He does a very good job of
continually refer continually

578
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,030
referring to it as a prank. When
it wasn't a prank.

579
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,470
I was, yeah, sorry, going to bed
when I was thinking it was more

580
00:35:13,470 --> 00:35:17,700
like he could evolve that into
hot or not hot. But yeah, that's

581
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:20,760
where I go into my questions.
What was Facemash? And is it

582
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,660
still up and running? No,
Congressman Facemash was a prank

583
00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:29,880
website that I launched in
college in my dorm room. Before

584
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,770
I started Facebook, there was a
movie about this or said it was

585
00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:35,820
about this, it was

586
00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:43,380
clear truth. And the claim that
Facemash was somehow connected

587
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:47,820
to the development of Facebook.
It isn't it wasn't just the

588
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:51,300
timing was the same, right? just
coincidental it was in 2003.

589
00:35:51,330 --> 00:35:51,660
Okay.

590
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,380
Actually has nothing to do he
put up pictures of two women and

591
00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:57,660
decide which one was the better,
more attractive of the two

592
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,410
congressmen that is an accurate
description of the prank

593
00:36:01,410 --> 00:36:02,010
website. And

594
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:11,970
just before we go any further,
just some general observations

595
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,130
about baby and before we go any
further, did you get the

596
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:18,360
spreadsheet from Eric? Yes. I
didn't need you can forward it

597
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,310
to me, please. Okay.

598
00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:22,050
All right.

599
00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:28,410
Some general observations, the
dudes in a suit. Let's just

600
00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:32,430
start with that. Yes. And he's
sitting up very straight. Well,

601
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:35,730
that's kind of his his deal.
Yeah, he's a straight he's now

602
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:38,520
that's I mean, maybe can sit up
and his straighter than this.

603
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:43,290
The dude is also clearly on the
spectrum. We knew this. But the

604
00:36:43,290 --> 00:36:50,070
dude yeah, he's dude. I would
say the the general atmosphere

605
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:52,800
and by the way, the woman in the
green behind him who was

606
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,140
signaling and laughing and
smirking and very dry. Yes, she

607
00:36:58,140 --> 00:37:01,200
was a scene stealer. Yeah, she
must have been one of the

608
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,600
lawyers. Yeah, I'm kind of
guessing. And yeah, just hang

609
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,650
out. She just kind of annoying.
Very annoying. Very annoying.

610
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:11,520
Yes. And then

611
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:16,620
the whole kind of the chuckling
the laughing it what is it with

612
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:20,640
people who have a lot of money?
Because I think that's the only

613
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,170
thing really and the incredible
wealth of Zuckerberg is is must

614
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:30,630
be the main thing. Which was
achieved in less than 15 years.

615
00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:32,520
Well, yeah, there's that.

616
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,220
Like what? Okay

617
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,990
I just found it in general. Just
to hear everyone always remember

618
00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:46,590
whenever you said something.
Yeah. It's the situation where

619
00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:50,730
the crowd is continuously
looking for the laugh. The I

620
00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:54,720
mean, the crowd is so jacked up.
Yes, I noticed this and I've

621
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,060
seen it before and I think
you're dead on is this got

622
00:37:57,060 --> 00:38:02,250
something to do with you know,
the it's some sickness and I

623
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:06,960
can't put my finger on why
everybody's so giddy Dude, why

624
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,150
everybody's doing that. But they
do that it's it's like

625
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,800
it's I think it's a throwback to
tribal era or something when

626
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,240
somebody was like, one of these
guys that had a lot of power in

627
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,690
soccer and has a lot of power.
It could be and of course money

628
00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:25,680
equals is one part of the power
equation. Yes. Money and then

629
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,170
running this companies and other
parts. I guess the same reason

630
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:31,590
I'm all giddy about the king.
Really? Yeah, you are all jacked

631
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:33,840
up. Yeah, I am. Yeah, so I blame
you.

632
00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,550
Kick you gotta been fun. Which
of the came might you never know

633
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:40,920
it? I doubt it by the way,
because I used to be buddies

634
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,500
with that guy. Sure. Yeah, I
used to actually have to send

635
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:47,340
money to him in taxes. You know,
there's not exactly a friend in

636
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:48,960
that regard. Hey, man.

637
00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:54,270
Ran out of my pocket. But
otherwise Yeah, I could see we

638
00:38:54,270 --> 00:38:57,750
could be buddies. I don't know
about Zuckerberg sucky I think

639
00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:01,800
be funny if he you got together
with a king and then he goes you

640
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,980
say he says to you, he says, Is
there any way you can introduce

641
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:05,820
me to Patricia?

642
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,440
John, hi.

643
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:15,390
You are the worst. You are the
worst.

644
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,490
Okay.

645
00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:25,080
Any more? Those observations?
Yeah. That did you get the

646
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,280
picture of his notes?

647
00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:31,500
Say no, I saw the article above
but for some reason I got

648
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:34,320
distracted. I never looked at
the picture of the notes. It's

649
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:38,310
it's pretty good. Put together
by the people behind him. Yes,

650
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:42,390
it's in the show notes in a show
notes.com But the only thing was

651
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:45,330
really interesting about it
about those notes is under

652
00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:51,840
GDPR the global data protection
regulations which are now in

653
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,150
effect in the EU, which we'll
talk about in a bit.

654
00:39:55,860 --> 00:40:00,000
He is on his paper it said
specifically do not say we are

655
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,660
already implementing GDPR

656
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:08,220
or, you know, because it came up
somewhere and someone so what do

657
00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:10,110
you think of the Europeans?
Yeah, the Europeans get it

658
00:40:10,110 --> 00:40:13,140
right. A couple times. Yeah.
Everyone's laughing about it.

659
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:16,590
But he specifically had in his
notes, do not say, Hey, we're

660
00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:18,120
already doing all this stuff.

661
00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:23,490
Then, you know, and he, he
steered away from that kind of I

662
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:28,020
mean, he, you know what, above
all, for the for the dudes age,

663
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,980
and this I think he did a pretty
good job. Really? I think he did

664
00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:36,090
a great job. Yeah, I'll say
that. But it's still it's still

665
00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:41,880
creepy. Creepy. Yeah, of course.
But if it were me, first of all,

666
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:44,640
think of them about the
Tourette's that will be going on

667
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,380
there. Oh, yeah. It'd be great

668
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,850
no one understand what I'm
saying. Like we're too

669
00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:55,650
distracted. You can't understand
your hell's wrong with his he's

670
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:59,040
got just guilty take them away.
Well, let's back it up a little

671
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,390
bit and do a story they can't
just came out because he does a

672
00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:06,510
California story and I want to
play it so we know what's going

673
00:41:06,510 --> 00:41:10,170
because all these companies have
to deal with California. Yep,

674
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:14,130
pretty much. This is the new the
new California law. Yes. Oh,

675
00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:17,610
this is like the EU and the EU
Blace because of the internet if

676
00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:19,860
this goes if it goes into
California yet the bay

677
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:23,790
California law so you you can't
make a California version. No,

678
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:26,190
you can't make a European
version. You do one thing so

679
00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:28,860
okay, whatever you want us to
do. We have to do it everywhere.

680
00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:32,760
And let's play this Saki
California Privacy Act. We have

681
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,970
some new details tonight about
Facebook's about face. The

682
00:41:35,970 --> 00:41:39,120
social media giant announced
late today it no longer opposes

683
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,820
a ballot measure that would give
consumers more privacy

684
00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:44,460
protection. ABC Seven News
reporter Katie Marzullo has the

685
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,970
story. Facebook has dropped its
opposition to the California

686
00:41:47,970 --> 00:41:51,300
Consumer Privacy Act. In a
statement A company spokesperson

687
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,540
said we took this step in order
to focus our efforts on

688
00:41:54,540 --> 00:41:58,290
supporting reasonable privacy
measures in California. We

689
00:41:58,290 --> 00:42:00,750
talked with the President of the
California NS for consumer

690
00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:06,810
privacy via Skype, as seen late
and they realize that consumers

691
00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:10,950
are demanding privacy now. And I
am hoping that some of these

692
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:14,220
other corporations follow suit.
The Privacy Act would let people

693
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:17,610
see what personal information
businesses are collecting and

694
00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:20,670
allow consumers to tell
corporations not to sell their

695
00:42:20,670 --> 00:42:23,760
information. companies,
including Google continue to

696
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,060
oppose the measure through the
Committee to Protect California

697
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:30,120
jobs. In reaction to Facebook
dropping out a committee

698
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,750
spokesperson said in a
statement, it is unsurprising

699
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:37,470
that proponents of the so called
California Consumer Privacy Act

700
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:40,500
are looking to distract from
their deeply flawed initiative

701
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:43,860
that will do enormous harm to
the California economy while not

702
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:47,700
protecting anyone's privacy.
Professor Larry Sokolov said

703
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:51,960
this is a fascinating time,
people are aware that they've

704
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,110
given something up and now
they're trying to figure out

705
00:42:55,410 --> 00:42:58,350
what they want back. Proponents
of the Privacy Act are still

706
00:42:58,350 --> 00:43:00,810
collecting signatures they'll
learn in June as the measure

707
00:43:00,810 --> 00:43:03,660
qualifies for the November
ballot. In San Jose, Katie

708
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:07,920
Marzullo, ABC Seven News. Okay,
let me get this straight. So

709
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,310
what you kind of said in your
intro, is that because of the

710
00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:14,880
EU, which as we know is run by
the Germans. It's the German

711
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,240
right? The German Empire, the
German Empire? We'll call it the

712
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:24,060
new German the new German. Yeah,
yes. And JNG and Genji, the new

713
00:43:24,750 --> 00:43:28,140
the new German Empire, and
California is modeling itself

714
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:32,370
because of the companies they're
after the new German Empire. Of

715
00:43:32,370 --> 00:43:32,850
course,

716
00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:35,190
they were right or wrong.

717
00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:39,780
Can't believe I still have this
clip.

718
00:43:43,530 --> 00:43:45,240
But it doesn't get to the hook
fast enough.

719
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,190
All right. Anyway, the Dead
Kennedys knew a long time ago,

720
00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:55,230
California. Iran is key in my
back, Nancy. All right.

721
00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:57,330
Now,

722
00:43:58,530 --> 00:44:03,360
a couple of things about that
clip. One is Google proves

723
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,680
itself to be the douchebags that
they are Yeah. Not realize, I

724
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,440
hope they watch this because
they're next in line. Oh, for

725
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,810
sure. They better be. And

726
00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:17,460
this Committee to Protect
California jobs or this,

727
00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:21,990
whatever is called this acts of
the Committee to Protect

728
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:25,770
California jobs. This is against
this a Privacy Act, saying that

729
00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:31,350
it'll kill jobs and it'll ruin
the economy, it makes no sense.

730
00:44:31,530 --> 00:44:34,020
It probably won't kill jobs,
you'll probably add jobs because

731
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:37,260
you need more jobs to take care
of these consumer complaints, or

732
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:40,650
they want to have their data and
all the rest of it. You can get

733
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:45,150
your data off of Facebook, which
Saki made a big point about and

734
00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:48,420
his hearings. You can't do that
with Google. Well, you know, the

735
00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:51,780
differences and it's very
interesting to be here in the in

736
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:55,680
the EU's at this moment, because
they they just now are,

737
00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:59,730
everyone's gonna have to start
to comply with the global data

738
00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:00,000
protect

739
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,900
Extra regulations. And to want
to any website that I go to

740
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:08,220
actually, I did not sign into
Google, specifically. So I could

741
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,490
tell you the experience, if I go
to google.com, right now on a

742
00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:15,570
browser that I have in the US
first, I can't actually search

743
00:45:15,570 --> 00:45:17,790
for anything, it says, I get a
big pop up the middle of the

744
00:45:17,790 --> 00:45:21,450
screen. Just before you continue
to be consistent with data

745
00:45:21,450 --> 00:45:23,730
protection laws, we're asking
you to take a moment to review

746
00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:26,760
key points of Google's privacy
policy. This isn't about a

747
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,580
change we've made, it's just a
chance to review some key

748
00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:32,820
points. We need you to do this
in order to continue to use

749
00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:37,410
Google services Next. Click
Next. A privacy reminder. And

750
00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:41,400
then they did that. Wait a
minute, they did that here. You

751
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,120
recently, same exact thing. Oh,
yeah. Well, I hadn't had this

752
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,450
happen. Because I've been using
this in the US and it hadn't

753
00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:48,960
happened.

754
00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:53,340
This is data we process when you
use Google why we process it

755
00:45:53,340 --> 00:45:57,150
combining data, then this whole
thing, learn how Google uses

756
00:45:57,150 --> 00:46:00,870
data to improve your experience,
my favorite, improving my

757
00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:04,260
experience. And then the how you
decide and now it gets

758
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:08,310
complicated. Now there's more
like that, that? If so then, in

759
00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:12,300
order to now use Google
services, I have to click I

760
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:15,480
agree. But I would have to go
and look at all these different

761
00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:20,700
links. And then tip, if you sign
into Google account before

762
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,400
agreeing will remember your
choice across all your signed in

763
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,840
devices and browsers.

764
00:46:28,170 --> 00:46:31,620
Oh, I guess you can sign it, but
you still can't use Google

765
00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:35,670
search. And there's other
options. And then a whole bunch

766
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:40,590
of other customizing settings.
And it's just like I or I agree.

767
00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:43,500
So you know what's gonna happen?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is the same

768
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,370
problem. This is a problem that
he used to put a stop to it. I

769
00:46:47,370 --> 00:46:50,790
think the one thing that I came
away with, because a lot of

770
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:53,820
people kept bringing it up,
including the Lindsey Graham,

771
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:57,420
who who took the you'll on, I
guess, printed it out. Yeah, I

772
00:46:57,420 --> 00:47:02,610
saw a 15 point type or some. So
it's really huge. And is the get

773
00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:05,850
rid of this EULA? And the whole
way it operates? Well, I think a

774
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:09,720
lot of the senators were focused
on that very point. I think a

775
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,210
lot of them were at some of the
congressmen but the congressmen

776
00:47:12,210 --> 00:47:14,490
were a little more interesting,
because they would bring stuff

777
00:47:14,490 --> 00:47:18,150
up another thing that's got to
change I should mention, is the

778
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:23,880
is this time limitation on these
on these speakers? Yeah, it's

779
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,460
like I got I can only ask you a
question. Now, what you got to

780
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:28,830
do it, I'm going to know you can
you do anything about this

781
00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:31,200
situation? That A, B, and C,
they don't answer that because

782
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,050
they have time running out of
time. So what did they do? They

783
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:36,990
just go on to harangue? How
about this, they need to limit

784
00:47:36,990 --> 00:47:40,860
the number of people who are
questioning that was no problem.

785
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:45,690
Never gonna have what they what
they can do is they can limit

786
00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:48,990
them to one minute of questions.

787
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,130
But but their time is up by the
answer. Wow. I know exactly. I

788
00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:58,770
mean, unless you want to recover
your time, reclaim your time.

789
00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:02,790
Zuckerberg would always say that
basic services people want to

790
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:05,760
share they upload their photos,
but he would keep going back to

791
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,220
that. And then you know, a
certain point. Oh, no, he had

792
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,120
filibustering. It's like, okay,
we get it. That's not the data

793
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,280
we're talking about. We're
talking about some very

794
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,360
different. Can I just play two
clips. Play? Okay, this is

795
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,230
Blackburn.

796
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,260
Senator Blackburn.

797
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,310
Talking about censorship. First
up, these are just the the

798
00:48:26,310 --> 00:48:30,060
things that I that I thought
were kind of decent questions.

799
00:48:30,270 --> 00:48:33,930
And okay, with an answer that
interests us. We've done one

800
00:48:33,930 --> 00:48:37,350
hearing on algorithms at your
communications and technology

801
00:48:37,350 --> 00:48:40,860
subcommittee here. We're getting
ready to do a second one on

802
00:48:40,860 --> 00:48:44,940
algorithms. We're going to do
one next week on prioritization.

803
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:49,080
So I'd like to ask you do you
subjectively manipulate your

804
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,180
algorithms to prioritize or
censor speech? Nice. Finally,

805
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:58,050
someone's asking some real
questions. Congresswoman, we

806
00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:01,140
don't think about what we're
doing is censoring speech? I

807
00:49:01,140 --> 00:49:01,290
think

808
00:49:02,310 --> 00:49:05,130
that's a great answer. We don't
think about what we're doing is

809
00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:09,150
killing people. We think about
it as human resource management.

810
00:49:11,010 --> 00:49:14,220
types of content like terrorism,
that I think that we all agree

811
00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:19,740
we do not want to have 1000
Because that's that was just

812
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:22,230
talking points. It's literally
on the picture, talk about

813
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:26,790
terrorism, and decide chat, sex
trafficking, terrorism, that I

814
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:30,060
think that we all agree we do
not want to have on our service.

815
00:49:30,210 --> 00:49:33,810
So we build systems that can
identify those and can remove

816
00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:36,090
that content, and we're very
proud of that work. Let me tell

817
00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:40,950
you something right now. I
dominance is not terrorism.

818
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:43,020
Now,

819
00:49:44,250 --> 00:49:47,310
before I play the next clip,
very disappointing to me,

820
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:50,340
because it's just accepted like
it's the most normal thing in

821
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:55,770
the world. But we have AI tools.
We have AI tools, our AI tools

822
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,980
Excuse me. The skills made Mr.
Zuckerberg lucky

823
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,810
Can you explain what AI tools
are and how they work and what

824
00:50:03,810 --> 00:50:07,740
they do? Because all I hear is
your AI tools aren't working and

825
00:50:07,740 --> 00:50:10,860
you're hiring 20,000 people to
be your AI tools.

826
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:17,760
This we cannot accept this bull
crap. We have aI edge. You don't

827
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,450
have AI, you don't have it. Just
no, they don't. Nobody does skip

828
00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:26,430
logic is the best you have.
Here's Blackburn with I think, a

829
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:29,550
perfect analogy to you. By the
way. She's not the only one who

830
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:33,840
defended diamond and silk. I
know, I know. But it but she was

831
00:50:33,870 --> 00:50:35,880
without defending them. She was
saying, hey, they're not

832
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,910
terrorism. So what is your
problem? And when when I got

833
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:42,210
into? Well, of course, we're not
what hate speech? Well, we have

834
00:50:42,210 --> 00:50:44,850
AI tools for hate speech. I
mean, this is a really deep

835
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:49,140
conversation that needs to take
place out. I mean, these idiots

836
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:52,530
don't know anything about it. As
far as I'm concerned, it's not

837
00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,860
really real other than skip
logic trees, you know, oh, you

838
00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:59,970
have this little magical neuron
and identified some Sure. But

839
00:50:59,970 --> 00:51:03,750
hate speech. Are you kidding me?
That, you know, this is the most

840
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:08,070
subjective thing in the world.
But yet your AI tools are going

841
00:51:08,070 --> 00:51:10,950
to do this without bias. I mean,
it just doesn't exist, to my

842
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:13,500
knowledge. And I think I'm
pretty knowledgeable about it.

843
00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:17,160
Your tech press has failed you
people. The tech Horni have only

844
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,950
been jacking off to the iPhones
and never actually told you

845
00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:22,290
about anything that's happening
and Blackburn understands Mr.

846
00:51:22,290 --> 00:51:26,130
Zuckerberg, I tell you, I think
your cozy community is Dr. Mark

847
00:51:26,130 --> 00:51:28,830
Jameson recently said is
beginning to look a whole lot

848
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:32,250
like The Truman Show, where
people's identities and

849
00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:36,240
relationships are made available
to people that they don't know.

850
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:40,890
See, this is a very good
analogy. This, I think, helps

851
00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:43,200
people understand if they've
seen The Truman Show, which I

852
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,980
just recently we rewatched like,
oh, wait a minute, wait a

853
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:49,950
minute. So it's like having a
whole audience who can see

854
00:51:49,950 --> 00:51:51,990
everything I'm doing the people
I'm talking to the

855
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:55,020
relationships, except this
audience is, I don't know,

856
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:59,160
advertisers, intelligence, who
knows? And then that data is

857
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,090
crunched in a day's lunch. And
they are fully on a one another.

858
00:52:04,170 --> 00:52:07,410
Okay, I'm sorry, that's
unacceptable. Blackburn. I mean,

859
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:09,690
I know what you're trying to do
for your constituents and all

860
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:13,260
that. But that's as bad as
saying glitch. Yes. And then the

861
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,150
data is crunched, okay.

862
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,260
To look a whole lot like the
sorry, we wanted to fire

863
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:23,370
people's identities and
relationships are made available

864
00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:27,210
to people that they don't know.
And then that data is crunched,

865
00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:32,160
and it is used, and they are
fully unaware of this. So I've

866
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,700
got to ask you, I think what
we're getting to here is who

867
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:40,380
owns the virtual you, who owns
your presence online? And I'd

868
00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:45,060
like for you to comment, who do
you think of an individual's

869
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:48,630
presence online? Who owns their
virtual you? Is it you? Or is it

870
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:52,590
them? Congresswoman, I believe
that everyone owns their own

871
00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:55,530
content online. And that's the
first line of our terms of

872
00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:59,040
service. And he again, he's he's
going straight to Yeah, you own

873
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,190
your own your content. Sure. But
she asked specifically about the

874
00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:05,940
crunched the data at the new
from crunch bar. If you read it

875
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:10,170
says that. And we're just
privacy rank as a corporate

876
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:13,110
value for Facebook.
Congresswoman, giving people

877
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:15,600
control of their information
while they want to set their

878
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,500
privacy is foundational to the
whole service. It's not just a

879
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:22,020
kind of an add on feature or
something we have to comply

880
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:25,230
with. Well, reality is when if
you have a photo, if you just

881
00:53:25,230 --> 00:53:27,810
think about this in your day to
day life, I can't let you

882
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:29,250
filibuster right now.

883
00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:33,780
Mine who's the benefits manager
brought up a great question and

884
00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:37,680
a meeting at her company last
week. And she said you know,

885
00:53:37,710 --> 00:53:40,830
health care, you've got HIPAA,
you've got gramm leach Bliley,

886
00:53:40,830 --> 00:53:44,520
you've got the Fair Credit
Reporting Act. These are all

887
00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:48,300
compliance documents for privacy
for other sectors of the

888
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:52,590
industry. She was stunned,
stunned, shocked. There are no

889
00:53:52,590 --> 00:53:57,900
privacy documents that I to you
all, y'all. And we've heard

890
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:03,480
people say that, you know, when
you've said you're considering

891
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:08,190
maybe you need more regulation,
what we think is we need for you

892
00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:13,530
to look at new legislation. And
you're hearing there'll be more

893
00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:18,210
bills brought out in the next
few weeks. But we have had a

894
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:21,420
bill, the browser act, and I'm
certain that you're familiar

895
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:25,920
with this is bipartisan, and I
thank Mr. Lipinski and Mr.

896
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,610
LANSON, Mr. Flores, for their
good work on this legislation.

897
00:54:29,790 --> 00:54:32,760
We've had it for over a year.
And certainly we've been working

898
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,740
on this issue for about four
years. And will you commit to

899
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:43,530
working with us to pass privacy
legislation to pass the browser

900
00:54:43,530 --> 00:54:46,590
act? Will you commit to doing
that, Congresswoman, I'm not

901
00:54:46,590 --> 00:54:50,190
directly familiar with the
details of what you just said.

902
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:54,900
But I certainly think that
regulation let's get familiar

903
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:55,890
with the details,

904
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,970
rules and regulations. This is
suddenly 13

905
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,020
On pages Oh, show browse right,
just 13 pages, so you can easily

906
00:55:04,020 --> 00:55:08,040
become familiar with it. And we
would appreciate your help. And

907
00:55:08,070 --> 00:55:13,380
I gotta tell you, as Mr. Green
just said, as you look at the EU

908
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:17,250
privacy policies, you're already
doing much of that, if you're

909
00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:22,260
doing everything you claim,
because you will have to allow

910
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,000
consumers to control their data
to change to erase it, you have

911
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,800
to give consumers opt in. And
the browser X stands for

912
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,670
balancing the rights of web
surfers equally and responsibly.

913
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:39,480
And it is 13 pages very simple.
It basically says anything that

914
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,790
comes in and out of that
browser, you should be able to

915
00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:44,610
delete on the server end, which
is almost a technical

916
00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:49,260
impossibility, it seems, while
not impossibility, but it just

917
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:53,460
knowing what comes out and is
logged and stored and crunched.

918
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:58,350
You know, you just stop there
and make a note.

919
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,250
The government itself has
demanded that people keep these

920
00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:08,160
logs. And all this now.

921
00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:12,900
Well, you have to have the right
to remove it the right to remove

922
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,480
it. But really the right to
remove it doesn't mean it's

923
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,350
gonna get removed. Okay, because
the government wants to keep

924
00:56:19,350 --> 00:56:23,160
this information for the
Homeland Security folks. And the

925
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,720
intelligence agencies. Sure. So
why don't these congress people,

926
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:30,570
like get their act together and
realize what's going on here

927
00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:34,200
just got conflicting interests
everywhere? Well, we also have a

928
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,340
responsibility. And I'm going to
say that our responsibility is

929
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:41,490
to have a browser that doesn't
fucking excuse me, that doesn't

930
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,540
blow all of our information out
there. And it and this is why I

931
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:49,110
like the brave browser, because
that's part of their idea, is

932
00:56:49,110 --> 00:56:52,080
keep all that information in and
only give certain that you at

933
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,840
least have control over what
you're giving them. You do have

934
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,640
that control. And just because
we accept Chrome, and all these

935
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,650
shitty browsers, but people use
Google people use Chrome people

936
00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:09,720
use well I use I use brave. I've
been using brave more often now

937
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:15,480
that I recognize what how it
handles Adblock. Ah, pretty

938
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,870
good. I have I normally was
using Firefox, but now I'm using

939
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:22,860
brave a little more because with
Firefox, the ad blockers which

940
00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:27,210
are somewhat of a scam, because
the ad blocking company, oh,

941
00:57:27,210 --> 00:57:32,160
sorry. They're an ad company.
Yes, and an advertising block as

942
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,310
a block ads and then you go to
like certain publications, if

943
00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:38,250
you're going down and like a
news list to get some ideas.

944
00:57:39,060 --> 00:57:41,490
There's a lot of these I'm
actually most of the newspapers,

945
00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:44,880
hey, hey, you're using an ad
blocker. Hey, and then they you

946
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,270
know, they hit you have two
options. Some like yeah, don't

947
00:57:48,270 --> 00:57:52,740
block on this page for this
moment. They Forbes just cut,

948
00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:55,920
you know, you get rid of the ad
blocker. We're not fooling

949
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,690
around with

950
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:04,410
Brave, so brave does is it
somehow signals the publication

951
00:58:04,410 --> 00:58:09,450
that, hey, now there's no ad
blocker? No. And then it then it

952
00:58:09,450 --> 00:58:12,840
takes the ad itself takes the
ads and buries them someplace

953
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,970
that you never see. And it's
probably does some sort of a

954
00:58:14,970 --> 00:58:19,410
virtual ad blocking that it
proxies it. Okay, that's what I

955
00:58:19,410 --> 00:58:24,120
meant by proxies, the actual TCP
into the into the bit bucket.

956
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,510
And so you just never see gone.
Yeah. All I know is I don't see

957
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:31,200
the ads. And so the ads are
gone. And it's like, but they

958
00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:33,840
these guys think they're
delivering the ads. So

959
00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:37,920
they're getting, which is again,
some soy, which is really

960
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:40,860
something scam ish about that.
Because now the poor company

961
00:58:40,860 --> 00:58:43,770
paying for these ads to be
displayed. They're getting

962
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:47,730
gypped. This there's scamming
and advertising. I'm shocked.

963
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,930
Shocked, I tell you buying Hey,
guess what? I found out milk

964
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,710
goes bad if you leave it out.
I'm shocked again, I tell you.

965
00:58:56,070 --> 00:59:00,090
Yeah. Is that brave is brave is
Yeah, but that's our

966
00:59:00,090 --> 00:59:03,540
responsibility. It has issues.
Of course, it takes a while to

967
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:08,340
build a good browser. But the
the idea they have behind it is

968
00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:13,680
we we will crunch the numbers in
our own browser. And then we'll

969
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,280
make a set of what they call
indications available to

970
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:20,340
companies and advertisers saying
okay, I'll give you an

971
00:59:20,340 --> 00:59:24,000
indication if I'm, you know,
interested in in some kind of

972
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,060
sports related thing, but it
would never be the raw data, it

973
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:30,870
would be our own version of what
they use internally in their,

974
00:59:31,050 --> 00:59:34,050
you know, their 1000 Points of
Light of data points, you know,

975
00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:39,990
white male old guy straight
looks at you know, sailboats.

976
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,980
That's that's their data points,
but we would have them that's

977
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:46,590
the thing all you need is the
white you need a lot more but

978
00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:50,010
having our own browser that you
control what you're sending, and

979
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,440
this is the start where they
already think they're serving

980
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,200
you ads and we're already
effectively filtering them out

981
00:59:55,410 --> 00:59:56,610
when for us.

982
00:59:59,670 --> 01:00:00,000
Works

983
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,820
For me, yeah, watch that guy
watch the CEO of the company get

984
01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:06,390
picked up for kiddie porn. Oh,
something Yes. They're not gonna

985
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:09,090
stand for this. Yeah, they're
gonna have they're gonna have.

986
01:00:09,330 --> 01:00:12,540
So he should he should get some
some insurance?

987
01:00:14,219 --> 01:00:17,459
Yes. Anyway back to the clips.
Yeah, but yeah, but like she was

988
01:00:17,459 --> 01:00:20,669
good. i There's another woman I
didn't get her name I forgot it

989
01:00:20,669 --> 01:00:24,329
but she's the one I think given
the best hard time this is the

990
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:27,239
hostile Congresswoman and she
just goes on and on. She just

991
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:31,229
goes off on him saying all kinds
of crazy stuff. And every time

992
01:00:31,229 --> 01:00:33,599
he tries to respond, she just
plows through it because she

993
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:37,559
doesn't got time, again, a flaw
in the way this works. You are

994
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:42,299
collecting personal information
on people who do not even have

995
01:00:42,299 --> 01:00:44,069
Facebook accounts. Isn't that
right.

996
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,530
Congresswoman, I believe yes or
no? Congresswoman? I'm not sure

997
01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:51,690
that I don't think that that's
what we're tracking. I don't

998
01:00:51,690 --> 01:00:55,290
think that the average American
really understands that today

999
01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:58,830
something that fundamental, and
that you're tracking, tracking

1000
01:00:58,830 --> 01:01:04,320
everyone's online activities,
their searches, you can track

1001
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,820
what people buy, correct.

1002
01:01:07,290 --> 01:01:08,130
Congressman,

1003
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,940
you're collecting that data what
people purchase online.

1004
01:01:14,070 --> 01:01:17,910
If they share it with us, but
Congress has a button. So it's

1005
01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:20,910
it's it's gathering Facebook has
the application. In fact, you

1006
01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:25,080
patented applications to do just
that. Isn't that correct? To

1007
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,260
collect? I don't think any of
those buttons share transaction

1008
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:32,040
data. You watch where we go.
Senator Durbin had a I had a

1009
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,650
funny question yesterday about
where you're staying. And you

1010
01:01:34,650 --> 01:01:38,280
didn't want to share that. But
you Facebook also gathers that

1011
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,710
data about where we travel.
Isn't that correct?

1012
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,340
Congresswoman, everyone has
control over how that works. And

1013
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:50,160
it goes on. But she's just she
did bring up the point I thought

1014
01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:54,210
I stopped. Stop. I just want to
say something that is not true.

1015
01:01:54,420 --> 01:01:58,110
Because I have location sharing
turned off. I went to college

1016
01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:02,250
station somehow that showed up
on one of my places visited

1017
01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:05,730
which I had almost no data once
in a while this one data point.

1018
01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:08,880
And I guess they're getting it
from Wi Fi or wherever. But it's

1019
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,780
not true that I have the
capability to turn that off lie.

1020
01:02:13,620 --> 01:02:16,650
Yeah, that was most of this was
a lie. That was a lie. And you

1021
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,720
you actually bitched about this
already.

1022
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:24,810
And she does point out in a
bunch of people, because I said,

1023
01:02:24,810 --> 01:02:28,170
I'm not a Facebook guy, you know
me, here's me. I'm not a

1024
01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:33,870
Facebook user. Perfect. You're
perfect for Congress. And so I

1025
01:02:33,870 --> 01:02:38,310
got two or three notes from some
high end, Guy dudes named Ben

1026
01:02:38,310 --> 01:02:40,980
and said, Hey, and one guy
explains to you, right, you're

1027
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:45,720
not you're being tracked any way
they can, if you ever touch the

1028
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,870
site, you're you're just coded
with some hash code, they don't

1029
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:51,900
have your name. If they can't,
you're never put it in their

1030
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:55,830
Canvas profiling. And so that's
what she was bitching about. She

1031
01:02:55,830 --> 01:02:58,320
says people that aren't even
Facebook users are being tracked

1032
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,670
by you douchebags. Why didn't
she say it like that? I don't

1033
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:04,710
know. She should have said like,
you know what it is? She was

1034
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:08,130
implying it? No, but here's the
problem. Most of these jokes,

1035
01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:11,490
they have people who work for
them who understand and have

1036
01:03:11,490 --> 01:03:14,610
questions, but these people
don't know what they're asking.

1037
01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:17,940
They're just reading a script
problem. And this is a problem.

1038
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,820
I will I don't want to change
the subject. With a change,

1039
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:24,210
though, for a split second. This
is the problem with modern

1040
01:03:24,210 --> 01:03:30,120
journalism. With Jos. What you
just said, is exactly the way a

1041
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,210
journalist is now taught to
operate. In the olden days,

1042
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:35,520
journalists were all
specialists. There was a guy

1043
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,180
given the beat Reaper, you know,
he's a he's a police reporter.

1044
01:03:39,330 --> 01:03:42,180
And he actually hung out with
the cops. And did you learn his

1045
01:03:42,180 --> 01:03:47,130
job? Before he became city desk
editor, but he was like, a guy

1046
01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:52,380
who is learning he was maybe was
a cop before? Or, in my case,

1047
01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:54,330
you know, I knew enough about
computers, I could write about

1048
01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:58,410
computers. Modern journalists,
say no, you don't need to know

1049
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:04,590
anything. You just need to know
how to ask questions. And you

1050
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:07,590
should be and then if you ask
enough questions, you'll figure

1051
01:04:07,590 --> 01:04:11,190
out the story. And so everyone
should be neutral. And I've

1052
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:14,040
always found that to be just
this is the reason that in the

1053
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,550
government you want to for
example, I keep using myself as

1054
01:04:17,550 --> 01:04:20,400
an example I worked at Union oil
and and I went to work for the

1055
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,670
government as an air pollution
inspector in refineries. And it

1056
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:26,730
wasn't because I was corrupted
by their oil refiners. It's

1057
01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:30,330
because I actually knew how
refinery operated as opposed to

1058
01:04:30,330 --> 01:04:33,600
some dumb guy because he doesn't
know anything. And he's supposed

1059
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,180
to do the same job he can't do
it. This the same thing with

1060
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:39,060
reporters and it's the same
thing with Congress people Yeah,

1061
01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:44,700
these days. You have to be able
to use social nets. You have to

1062
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:47,370
know something I don't know the
social nets and you have to look

1063
01:04:47,370 --> 01:04:47,880
hot

1064
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:54,000
Come on. Yeah, well, that's all
it really takes but it's doesn't

1065
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,940
work is that which is the only
reason you listen to the no

1066
01:04:56,940 --> 01:04:59,970
agenda show is because we have a

1067
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,570
broad range of experiences. And
we both and we're both

1068
01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:07,620
technically oriented. So we can
spot this sort of thing. But if

1069
01:05:07,620 --> 01:05:10,380
we were just the two guys on the
street, and we have white

1070
01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:13,230
privilege, the same material, we
have white privilege, we're

1071
01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:16,380
perfect. We have white privilege
on top of it, which is really

1072
01:05:16,380 --> 01:05:17,160
good to have.

1073
01:05:18,270 --> 01:05:20,760
Anyway, I'm sorry, but doing
that was a little aside, but I

1074
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,580
think people should always
realize that, that that we have

1075
01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:27,060
a problem in government because
of what Adam just said. They

1076
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:27,540
don't know what to

1077
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,620
do about it and worse, the
people who actually seem to

1078
01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:34,020
understand that who wrote the
questions, aren't there for the

1079
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:38,040
follow up, because then when
Zuck Zaki, when he goes into his

1080
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,950
people want to come to Facebook
to share and make connections,

1081
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:44,910
then they they say, well, that's
not the answer. I don't know

1082
01:05:44,910 --> 01:05:45,690
what I'm asking.

1083
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:50,370
Just don't that they should be
just like they have some of

1084
01:05:50,370 --> 01:05:52,830
these guys give testimony before
Congress with their lawyer

1085
01:05:52,830 --> 01:05:56,010
whispering in their ear. Yeah,
they should have those people

1086
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,120
who are sitting right next to
him whispering in their ear, or

1087
01:06:00,150 --> 01:06:03,240
use an IFBB For God's sake, just
what's wrong with that, hey, get

1088
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,300
some comps go into people's
actual legal use. You get some

1089
01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:11,640
comps, going. Some comps, comps,
comps on that stuff. Use your

1090
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,240
pager.

1091
01:06:14,340 --> 01:06:15,900
There yet what's your next one?

1092
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,780
Well, no, I have I don't have
oh, yeah, I do have I have to

1093
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:24,420
bloom at the best one to only
get ahead as Actaea was

1094
01:06:24,420 --> 01:06:29,250
Blumenthal night, because all he
did was he just realized that

1095
01:06:29,250 --> 01:06:32,070
there was a legal violation of
an FTC

1096
01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:34,290
order.

1097
01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:38,940
Facebook was violating over and
over what do they call it? Part

1098
01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:42,090
of it here? This is the what
does it call a convention on a

1099
01:06:42,090 --> 01:06:46,110
convention? What's the name of
the document? I can't remember.

1100
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,430
But once they these guys, and I
didn't realize this, by the way,

1101
01:06:50,430 --> 01:06:54,270
when the when the guys who did
the, the material that went to

1102
01:06:54,270 --> 01:06:59,460
eventually went to the Analytica
company. They were they had

1103
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:04,260
their own and Blumenthal had it.
They had their own EULA, which

1104
01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:07,590
gave them two rights to resell
this as many times as they

1105
01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:10,620
wanted to. Well, I'll tell you,
you know, Christmas years

1106
01:07:12,030 --> 01:07:16,140
he went and he checked and his
some of his face bag apps that

1107
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:21,090
he wrote before 2015 still work
they still sucking data and data

1108
01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:23,220
from your friends. Is it still
on?

1109
01:07:24,570 --> 01:07:28,500
Oh, tell him I need a mailing
list. The show needs a mailing

1110
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:28,890
list

1111
01:07:31,410 --> 01:07:33,750
maybe he still listens I don't
know he's pretty dementia

1112
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:37,560
without as pre dementia be? My
Yeah, well, it does mean you

1113
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,200
can't get us a mailing list. The
guy who had the podcast has

1114
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,540
dementia be Now you tell me.

1115
01:07:43,770 --> 01:07:47,040
Let's play the Blumenthal clip.
Then you'll by the way, you have

1116
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,520
to cut this off. For some
reason. When I extracted this, I

1117
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,090
took the whole clip down 10
minutes worth which is not all

1118
01:07:54,090 --> 01:07:56,790
Blumenthal. So you have to stop
it when I say so. It looks like

1119
01:07:56,790 --> 01:07:58,230
only 11 seconds, John?

1120
01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:00,630
Or is it? 11 minutes?

1121
01:08:01,740 --> 01:08:05,070
It's 10 minutes and 11 seconds.
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, my counters

1122
01:08:05,070 --> 01:08:09,480
obfuscated. Sorry, Senator, it
certainly appears that we should

1123
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,440
have been aware that this app
developer submitted a term that

1124
01:08:13,470 --> 01:08:16,410
was in conflict with the rules
of the platform. Well, what

1125
01:08:16,410 --> 01:08:17,370
happened here

1126
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,380
was in effect, willful
blindness, it was heedless and

1127
01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:27,240
reckless, which in fact,
amounted to a violation of the

1128
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,200
FTC consent decree. Would you
agree? Consent Decree? There it

1129
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:36,030
is. Senator. My understanding is
that is not that this was a

1130
01:08:36,030 --> 01:08:39,000
violation of the consent decree.
But as I've said a number of

1131
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,390
times today, I think we need to
take a broader view of our

1132
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:46,140
responsibility around privacy
than just what is mandated in

1133
01:08:46,140 --> 01:08:49,380
the current law. Here is my
reservation, Mr. Zuckerberg, and

1134
01:08:49,380 --> 01:08:51,960
I apologize for interrupting
you, but my time is limited.

1135
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:56,790
We've seen the apology tours
before you hear from him, we're

1136
01:08:56,790 --> 01:09:00,990
have refused to acknowledge even
an ethical obligation to have

1137
01:09:00,990 --> 01:09:05,190
reported this violation of the
FTC consent decree.

1138
01:09:06,210 --> 01:09:07,980
And we have

1139
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:14,190
letters we've had contacts with
Facebook employees. And I'm

1140
01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:18,330
going to submit a letter for the
record from Sandy para keyless

1141
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,350
with your permission.

1142
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,230
That indicates not only a lack
of resources, but lack of

1143
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:30,540
attention to privacy. And so my

1144
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:38,400
reservation about your testimony
today is that I don't see how

1145
01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:42,210
you can change your business
model. Unless there are specific

1146
01:09:42,540 --> 01:09:46,500
rules of the road your business
model is to monetize user

1147
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:52,650
information to maximize profit
over privacy. And unless there

1148
01:09:52,650 --> 01:09:57,000
are specific rules and
requirements enforced by an

1149
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,970
outside agency, I have noticed

1150
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,340
surance that these kinds of
vague commitments are going to

1151
01:10:05,460 --> 01:10:09,360
produce action. So I want to ask
you a couple of very specific

1152
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,960
questions. And they are based on
legislation that I've authored

1153
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,440
the my data act, legislation
that Senator Markey is

1154
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:19,890
introducing today, the consent
Act, which I'm joining.

1155
01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:26,100
Don't you agree that companies
ought to be required to provide

1156
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:31,020
users with clear plain
information about how their data

1157
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:37,920
will be used, and specific
ability to consent to the use of

1158
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,040
that information? And what I
think is interesting, he's

1159
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,980
asking for something that I
don't think is possible, because

1160
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:46,920
it's really only your
imagination. That is the

1161
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,160
limitation of what can be done
with the amount of data that is

1162
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,370
tracked, right down to
accelerometer, you know, how

1163
01:10:53,370 --> 01:10:57,660
you're holding the phone is just
You mean to tell people this is

1164
01:10:57,660 --> 01:10:59,520
what we're doing with it, you
might as well just say,

1165
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,230
we can do anything. It's once we
get our AI tools,

1166
01:11:05,490 --> 01:11:07,620
then the sky's the limit.

1167
01:11:08,670 --> 01:11:11,400
You can no one so much. You
know, it just basically

1168
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,050
anything, especially with
movement, location, proximity.

1169
01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:22,440
Yeah. So it's not exactly fair.
I know. It's a goldmine.

1170
01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:26,850
Senator, I do generally agree
with with what you're saying.

1171
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,360
And I laid that out earlier,
when I talked about what would

1172
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,320
you agree to an opt in as
opposed to an opt out?

1173
01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:40,350
Senator, I think that that
certainly makes sense to discuss

1174
01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:43,530
and I think the details around
this matter a lot, which I agree

1175
01:11:43,530 --> 01:11:48,480
that users should be able to
access all of their information,

1176
01:11:48,750 --> 01:11:51,810
Senator, yes, of course, wrong
question information that you

1177
01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:56,250
collect as a result of purchases
from data brokers, as well as

1178
01:11:56,250 --> 01:12:00,420
track Oh, yeah, that was good.
Senator, we have already a

1179
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:03,420
download your information tool
just on the data brokers. I

1180
01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,120
don't know if it's in this in
Blumenthal's thing, but I have

1181
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,410
to correct myself. They weren't
selling to the two. What's the

1182
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:13,110
FICO company name? Again, I keep
forgetting it with a V.

1183
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,140
What? Oh, yeah.

1184
01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:22,050
Veritas or something? Yeah,
you're some very TOS is exactly

1185
01:12:22,050 --> 01:12:25,890
the opposite of what they are.
Yeah, some V company. Not very

1186
01:12:25,890 --> 01:12:26,850
sign now.

1187
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,480
But he should have a big or you
should have a note and have it

1188
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:35,940
up because you keep I know, it's
odd. Okay, well, anyway, he was

1189
01:12:35,970 --> 01:12:39,870
he was buying from them. Any any
notes in that answer? I know if

1190
01:12:39,870 --> 01:12:43,110
it's in this bit, that that is
standard add practice. And of

1191
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:47,040
course it is because that's
where your data goes, when you

1192
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,390
sign up for protection. When you
sign up for, you know, LifeLock

1193
01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:55,230
I'm pretty sure they do it too.
They sell your aggregate data,

1194
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:58,110
the all these credit companies
as well. They sell it to the

1195
01:12:58,110 --> 01:13:01,110
advertisers. So they know what
you're buying. When you're

1196
01:13:01,110 --> 01:13:03,240
buying it. You're in the Uber,
what do you do it, they know,

1197
01:13:03,390 --> 01:13:06,720
the credit card, guys, they've
got the goldmine, and they're

1198
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,960
selling it and face bag is
importing that or was importing

1199
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,550
it. There you go. That allows
people Experian see v company,

1200
01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:18,570
to see and to take out all of
the information that Facebook

1201
01:13:18,660 --> 01:13:20,820
that they've put into Facebook
or that Facebook knows about

1202
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:24,060
them. So yes, I agree with that
we already have that. I have a

1203
01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:28,350
number of other specific
requests. Was it Victoria's

1204
01:13:28,350 --> 01:13:33,180
Secret you agree to support as
part of legislation? I think

1205
01:13:33,180 --> 01:13:37,560
legislation is necessary. The
rules of the road have to be the

1206
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,220
result of congressional action.
We have.

1207
01:13:42,330 --> 01:13:48,390
Facebook has participated
recently in the fight against

1208
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:52,680
scourge, Scourge of sex
trafficking. And the bill that

1209
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,250
we've just finished it will be
signed into law tomorrow, after

1210
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,120
the stop exploiting Sex
Trafficking Act was the result

1211
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,420
of our cooperation. I hope that
we can cooperate on this kind of

1212
01:14:03,420 --> 01:14:07,020
measure as well. Senator, I look
forward to having my team work

1213
01:14:07,020 --> 01:14:09,120
with you on this. Thank you.
Senator Blumenthal. Senator

1214
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,470
Cruz. My teamwork, this good to
this cruise coming up? Yeah, I

1215
01:14:13,470 --> 01:14:16,740
just wanted to say one other
thing. And then there wasn't

1216
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:19,350
really clippable because it came
in multiple times throughout

1217
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:24,780
what I saw. Yeah. Okay. So you
ban an account? What's to say

1218
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:29,430
that that account, you know,
that the corporate entity, you

1219
01:14:29,430 --> 01:14:31,950
know, just creates an account
another account now we banned

1220
01:14:31,950 --> 01:14:36,630
the corporate entity, okay. So
what if someone lies and creates

1221
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:40,590
an account under you know, on
the on the down low on the Q t,

1222
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,010
if you don't know it, but
they're still the same guy and

1223
01:14:44,010 --> 01:14:46,800
they've created the account.
Now. Now we're pretty sure

1224
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,670
that's not happening. At what
point? Can we all just agree

1225
01:14:50,670 --> 01:14:53,940
that that's the same thing? How
do you know about what's going

1226
01:14:53,940 --> 01:14:56,790
on in Myanmar? Ladies and
gentlemen, they're reading your

1227
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:59,760
messages. They're scanning
everything to make sure that

1228
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:00,000
you're not

1229
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,330
At some illegal guy who was
already banned from the system,

1230
01:15:03,390 --> 01:15:07,080
they're reading your messages.
They're reading it, all of it,

1231
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:12,300
all of it with their AI tools,
but people are reading it, you

1232
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:14,760
can get it. I think they have AI
to flag things that are

1233
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,700
suspicious. Oh, yeah, just like
the CIA, they probably hire some

1234
01:15:17,700 --> 01:15:22,380
ex NSA guys who do that for a
living. Yes. But you know, let's

1235
01:15:22,380 --> 01:15:26,730
just be honest. He didn't say
it. And the the Congressman's

1236
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,610
congressmen and women and the
senators were too stupid to ask.

1237
01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:32,340
But that's really what's going
on. And they admitted, it's not

1238
01:15:32,340 --> 01:15:35,460
like it's a secret. But let's
just put context around when

1239
01:15:35,460 --> 01:15:37,830
they read your messages. It's
not just to give you ads, it's

1240
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:40,800
just make sure they know they
can ban you. Yeah, they can,

1241
01:15:40,830 --> 01:15:43,530
right. Now, the other thing
that's kind of interesting is

1242
01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:48,750
this idea that opt in this opt
in opt out thing is, is a is a

1243
01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:51,900
red herring. And it always has
been and I'll give you the

1244
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:55,950
example of how that why I think
this is because all they have to

1245
01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:59,670
do is hound you it's like the
EULA. You can't use the thing,

1246
01:15:59,670 --> 01:16:03,510
let's just check the box. You
can't use this app unless you

1247
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,630
agree to this. You can't you
know is this is that you'll

1248
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:10,140
think it all boils down to that
now or the old trick or the

1249
01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:14,820
trickery which you run into all
the time. We have to update your

1250
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:19,560
Flash Player for Adobe. So you
do that? And oh, by the way,

1251
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,480
would you like a copy of McAfee.

1252
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,090
And it says check the boxes
checked as you check it to get

1253
01:16:27,090 --> 01:16:31,260
rid of and have and a free a
free browser toolbar. So they

1254
01:16:31,290 --> 01:16:35,100
they opt you and so you can opt
they can opt you in so it looks

1255
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:38,880
like yeah, you opted in. You saw
the screen, it showed you that

1256
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,630
you check the box. Yeah. And you
of course you have to uncheck

1257
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:46,620
the box, which is you know, it's
an inconvenience, to say the

1258
01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:49,470
least, especially if you're in a
hurry and you forget ah, and

1259
01:16:49,470 --> 01:16:51,810
it's happened to me a couple of
times where you get clicked, you

1260
01:16:51,810 --> 01:16:54,900
don't notice the law, then you
got to stop the whole process

1261
01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:57,870
where they don't load McAfee on
your machine.

1262
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,630
It this whole thing the whole
business is just built on scams.

1263
01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:07,260
And I encourage everyone to look
at the South Park episode called

1264
01:17:07,290 --> 01:17:11,640
I sent a pod. It is was done
years ago and it is about

1265
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,200
exactly this problem. It is
extremely well done. And you

1266
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,160
will understand.

1267
01:17:19,710 --> 01:17:23,820
So now Ted Cruz comes up and he
brings he also brings up honey

1268
01:17:23,820 --> 01:17:26,280
and Spicer what are those two
women's names? I can't remember

1269
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,050
if sugar and spice. I sent a pad
spice and lemon

1270
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:37,800
spices lamb diamond and spice
diamond spice diamond girl. Cruz

1271
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,580
really lays into the guy it
because mostly for political

1272
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:45,360
reasons. And again, never let
him say much. Because these time

1273
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,970
my time is running out. I
reclaim my time diamond and

1274
01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:50,100
diamond. Diamond

1275
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:51,870
man.

1276
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,160
It's the short term memory that
goes first people. So you said

1277
01:17:56,490 --> 01:17:58,230
anyway school you want to play
this out? Yeah.

1278
01:17:59,490 --> 01:18:01,830
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr.
Zuckerberg, welcome. Thank you

1279
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:05,490
for being here. Mr. Zuckerberg,
does Facebook consider itself a

1280
01:18:05,490 --> 01:18:06,600
neutral public forum?

1281
01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:11,460
Senator, we consider ourselves
to be a platform for all ideas.

1282
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,750
Let me ask the question again.
Does Facebook consider itself to

1283
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:17,970
be a neutral public forum and
representatives of your company

1284
01:18:17,970 --> 01:18:21,450
have given conflicting answers
on this? Are you a first limit

1285
01:18:21,450 --> 01:18:24,840
speaker expressing your views?
Are you a neutral public forum

1286
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,040
allowing everyone to speak?

1287
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:30,990
Senator, here's how we think
about this. I don't believe that

1288
01:18:32,190 --> 01:18:35,250
nice nice performative by the
way, that's one of the better

1289
01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:39,390
performative. Here's the way we
think about this. Oh, beautiful

1290
01:18:39,390 --> 01:18:42,780
tent that clearly we do not
allow, right hate speech,

1291
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,040
terrorist content,

1292
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:48,930
nudity, anything that makes
people feel unsafe in the

1293
01:18:48,930 --> 01:18:54,600
community. Oh, some nudity. From
that perspective, that's why we

1294
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,810
generally try to refer to what
we do as a platform for all

1295
01:18:57,990 --> 01:19:01,770
right, just because the time is
constrained. It's just a simple

1296
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:05,610
question. The predicate for
Section 230 immunity under the

1297
01:19:05,610 --> 01:19:09,210
CBT CDA is that you are a
neutral public forum. Do you

1298
01:19:09,210 --> 01:19:11,850
consider yourself a neutral
public forum? Are you engaged in

1299
01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:14,040
political speech? Which is your
right under the First Amendment?

1300
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,090
Well, Senator, our goal is
certainly not to engage in

1301
01:19:18,090 --> 01:19:21,330
political speech. I'm not that
familiar with the specific legal

1302
01:19:21,330 --> 01:19:25,620
language of the law that you
that you speak to. So I would

1303
01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:28,350
need to follow up with you on
that. Okay. Hold on, is it first

1304
01:19:28,350 --> 01:19:32,430
of all, I know a lot about
section 230. Because we've just

1305
01:19:32,430 --> 01:19:36,720
discussed this so much over the
years, and crews to say a

1306
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,530
neutral public forum has nothing
to do with what is in the law.

1307
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,750
And the first, like First
Amendment speaker expressing

1308
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:49,470
your views all this is not in
Section 230. Section 230 is

1309
01:19:49,470 --> 01:19:53,550
important. Important, because
that's what really allowed the

1310
01:19:53,550 --> 01:19:56,520
intent to grow the way it is,
but it really is about

1311
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,940
editorializing versus removing
stuff.

1312
01:20:00,269 --> 01:20:04,529
And for then Zuckerberg to say,
Oh, I'm unfamiliar with what

1313
01:20:04,529 --> 01:20:07,589
you're talking about. That's the
whole reason his business

1314
01:20:07,589 --> 01:20:11,759
exists. So this is bull crap,
all of it. I'm just trying to

1315
01:20:11,759 --> 01:20:14,519
lay out how broadly I think
about this Mr. Zuckerberg, I

1316
01:20:14,519 --> 01:20:19,649
will say there are a great many
Americans who I think are deeply

1317
01:20:19,649 --> 01:20:24,839
concerned that Facebook and
other tech companies are engaged

1318
01:20:24,839 --> 01:20:29,519
in a pervasive pattern of bias
and political censorship. There

1319
01:20:29,519 --> 01:20:33,329
have been numerous instances
with Facebook. In May of 2016,

1320
01:20:33,329 --> 01:20:36,539
Gizmodo reported that Facebook
had purposely and routinely

1321
01:20:36,539 --> 01:20:39,959
suppressed conservative stories
from trending news, including

1322
01:20:39,959 --> 01:20:42,539
stories about CPAC, including
stories about Mitt Romney,

1323
01:20:42,539 --> 01:20:46,169
including stories about the Lois
Lerner IRS scandal, including

1324
01:20:46,169 --> 01:20:50,039
stories about Glenn Beck, I'd
forgotten all this good stuff.

1325
01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:52,199
Actually. It was kind of nice to
have the summary from the

1326
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:54,509
dimension a side and

1327
01:20:55,740 --> 01:20:57,000
he's not under oath, is he?

1328
01:20:58,020 --> 01:21:00,090
Yeah, of course he is. I don't
think he was under the to get

1329
01:21:00,090 --> 01:21:03,420
sworn in truth, whole truth.
Nothing but Well, I didn't see

1330
01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:07,650
it. I don't. I didn't see that.
I saw the beginning on C span.

1331
01:21:08,340 --> 01:21:11,160
wishing he just wandered up
there for all room says no.

1332
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,630
Not under oath. So then you can
say whatever you want, right?

1333
01:21:15,660 --> 01:21:19,710
That is what we're witnessing.
In addition to that Facebook has

1334
01:21:20,220 --> 01:21:24,900
initially shut down the Chick
fil A Appreciation Day pay. By

1335
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:28,020
the way I agree with that one
just shut it down has blocked a

1336
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:33,300
post of Fox News reporter has
blocked over two dozen Catholic

1337
01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:37,170
pages. As blocked Christina
Curry's sideboob, and most

1338
01:21:37,170 --> 01:21:40,500
recently blocked Trump
supporters diamond and silks

1339
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:44,760
page, with 1.2 million Facebook
followers after determining

1340
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,720
their content and brand were,
quote, unsafe to the community.

1341
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:53,280
To a great many Americans that
appears to be a pervasive

1342
01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:56,520
pattern of political bias. Do
you agree with that assessment?

1343
01:21:57,480 --> 01:21:59,640
We're not from now on we're
gonna call them Raven and silk.

1344
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,130
I think it's better. Senator,
let me say a few things about

1345
01:22:02,130 --> 01:22:06,660
this. First, I understand where
that concern is coming from

1346
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:09,960
because Facebook in the tech
industry, or located in Silicon

1347
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,200
Valley, which is an extremely
left leaning place. Nice. And

1348
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:16,650
this is actually a concern that
I have and that I try to root

1349
01:22:16,650 --> 01:22:21,360
out the company is making sure
that we don't have any bias in

1350
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,410
the work that we do. And I think
it is a fair concern that that

1351
01:22:25,410 --> 01:22:28,830
people would would wonder about
romance this notion. Are you

1352
01:22:28,830 --> 01:22:32,400
aware of any ad or page that has
been taken down from Planned

1353
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:32,940
Parenthood?

1354
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,680
Senator?

1355
01:22:36,570 --> 01:22:37,860
Let me just move on.

1356
01:22:39,330 --> 01:22:43,440
Sorry, about moveon.org. I'm not
specifically aware of any

1357
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:47,580
democratic candidate for office.
I'm not specifically aware every

1358
01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:51,750
night. I'm not I'm not sure. In
your testimony, you say that you

1359
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:55,920
have 15 to 20,000 people working
on security and Content Review.

1360
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:59,820
Do you know the political
orientation of those 15 to

1361
01:22:59,820 --> 01:23:04,830
20,000 people engaged in Content
Review? They're awesome. No,

1362
01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:07,710
Senator, we do not generally ask
people about their political

1363
01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:11,820
orientation when they're joining
us. Hold on. Here's where

1364
01:23:11,850 --> 01:23:15,420
Zuckerberg was, you know, very
well prime. But he was he wasn't

1365
01:23:15,420 --> 01:23:20,910
ready for that it wasn't ready
for this. Because he had a gym.

1366
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,680
Because what crews did was toss
him a softball and what would

1367
01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:31,020
what Zuckerberg could could have
said zaqy could have said was

1368
01:23:31,770 --> 01:23:35,340
I'm sorry, Senator, but it's
against the law in the state of

1369
01:23:35,340 --> 01:23:39,840
California to ask somebody Oh,
yeah, orientation is when we

1370
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:45,060
hire them buy a nice one. And he
would assume that would have

1371
01:23:45,150 --> 01:23:49,140
short circuited crews. No, no,
no, no, no better. Better yet.

1372
01:23:50,730 --> 01:23:55,470
Senator Cruz? Senator, I'm not
sure I'm not aware of all the

1373
01:23:55,470 --> 01:23:58,920
laws in Texas. But in
California, he that's how you do

1374
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,500
it. Without would it be even
better? You're right. That would

1375
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:06,900
have been just nice. But just
off the top he he doesn't either

1376
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:12,810
know this or spectrum broad
spectrum spectrum. But he could

1377
01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:16,050
have nailed crews right there.
But no, no, he just gets

1378
01:24:16,350 --> 01:24:19,950
continually bullied by crews
that what it was fun to watch.

1379
01:24:19,950 --> 01:24:22,500
Because I think you know, Cruz
was on a roll here. Yeah, he

1380
01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:25,710
even said he was it was funny.
So as CEO, have you ever made

1381
01:24:25,710 --> 01:24:28,920
hiring or firing decisions based
on political positions or what

1382
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,660
candidates they support it? No.

1383
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:35,580
Why was Palmer Luckey fired?
That was what a what a trap?

1384
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:41,250
What a trap. And here comes one
of those crowd got falling

1385
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:44,820
moments that is a specific
matter. That seems like it would

1386
01:24:44,820 --> 01:24:47,700
be inappropriate. He just made a
specific representation that you

1387
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:50,610
didn't make decisions based on
political views. Well, I can

1388
01:24:50,610 --> 01:24:52,980
commit that it was not because
of a political view.

1389
01:24:54,540 --> 01:24:57,690
Do you know of those 15 to
20,000 people engaged in content

1390
01:24:57,690 --> 01:24:59,970
review how many if any

1391
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,820
Any have ever supported
financially a Republican

1392
01:25:02,820 --> 01:25:03,810
candidate for office?

1393
01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:10,289
Senator, I do not know that.
Your testimony says it is not

1394
01:25:10,289 --> 01:25:12,869
enough that we just connect
people, we have to make sure

1395
01:25:12,869 --> 01:25:16,679
those connections are positive.
It says we have to make sure

1396
01:25:16,679 --> 01:25:19,889
people aren't using their voice
to hurt people or spread

1397
01:25:19,889 --> 01:25:23,519
misinformation. We have a
responsibility not just to build

1398
01:25:23,519 --> 01:25:27,419
tools to make sure those tools
are used. Mr. Zuckerberg, do you

1399
01:25:27,419 --> 01:25:30,329
feel it's your responsibility to
assess users whether they are

1400
01:25:30,329 --> 01:25:34,349
good and positive connections or
ones that those 15 to 20,000

1401
01:25:34,349 --> 01:25:36,989
people deem unacceptable or
deplorable?

1402
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:41,220
Senator, you're asking me
personally nice face nice one

1403
01:25:42,330 --> 01:25:47,010
are a number of Yes. He slipped
into Word deplorable, which is a

1404
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:51,930
which is a buzz word. Yeah.
Yeah. It was well done, meaning

1405
01:25:51,930 --> 01:25:56,040
Trump supporter. Yeah. Well
done. Well, the things that we

1406
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,070
would all agree are clearly bad.
foreign interference in our

1407
01:25:59,070 --> 01:26:05,280
elections, terrorism, self harm,
censorship? Oh, well, I think

1408
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,980
that you would probably agree
that we should remove terrorist

1409
01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:12,690
propaganda from the service. So
that I agree, I think is clearly

1410
01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:15,960
bad activity that we want to get
down. And we're generally proud

1411
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:20,220
Do you want to get down bound?
Get down on it out of how well

1412
01:26:20,220 --> 01:26:23,850
we do with that. Now, what I can
say, and I do want to get this

1413
01:26:23,850 --> 01:26:28,620
in before the end here is that I
am, I'm very committed to making

1414
01:26:28,620 --> 01:26:32,100
sure that Facebook is a platform
for all ideas. That is a very

1415
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:36,180
important founding principle of
what we do. We're proud of the

1416
01:26:36,180 --> 01:26:38,520
discourse and the different
ideas that people can share on

1417
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,100
the service. And that is
something that as long as I'm

1418
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:43,320
running the company I'm going to
be committed to making sure is

1419
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,380
the case. Thank you. Thank you,
Senator Cruz. Do you want to

1420
01:26:46,380 --> 01:26:47,010
break now?

1421
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:51,810
We want to keep going. Sure. I
mean, that was that was pretty

1422
01:26:51,810 --> 01:26:52,050
good.

1423
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,090
You can kill it. And with that,
I think we're done.

1424
01:27:01,170 --> 01:27:05,310
Well, I do have one more local
rap, which is the local rap of

1425
01:27:05,310 --> 01:27:07,860
the Zuckerberg thing and let's
play that and then we'll then

1426
01:27:07,860 --> 01:27:08,340
we're done.

1427
01:27:09,690 --> 01:27:12,450
Books. Mark Zuckerberg agreed
with lawmakers today that

1428
01:27:12,450 --> 01:27:15,960
regulation of his industry is
inevitable, as he faced harsh

1429
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,660
questions by lawmakers during
brown to have a hearing on

1430
01:27:18,660 --> 01:27:21,570
Capitol Hill. We didn't take a
broad enough view of our

1431
01:27:21,570 --> 01:27:25,560
responsibility. And that was a
big mistake. And it was my

1432
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,920
mistake. And I'm sorry, if
you've messaged anybody this

1433
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,130
week, would you share with us
the names of the people you've

1434
01:27:32,130 --> 01:27:32,580
messaged?

1435
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,840
Senator, no, I would probably
not choose to do that publicly

1436
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,600
here. I think that might be what
this is all about.

1437
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,530
The questioning follows the
Cambridge analytical scandal

1438
01:27:43,530 --> 01:27:47,400
that expose the data of up to 87
million Facebook users,

1439
01:27:47,550 --> 01:27:52,260
Zuckerberg revealed that his own
data was sold. Okay, sure. It

1440
01:27:52,260 --> 01:27:54,870
was now just a couple things to
wrap it up that remember

1441
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,100
one is I could not find this
clip of producer send me the

1442
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,800
time code on the C span so I
just could not find it but

1443
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:06,510
apparently at one point zaqy
This asked about intelligence

1444
01:28:06,540 --> 01:28:08,550
agencies know

1445
01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:14,880
something about face bag and
he's answer is like Senator I

1446
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:20,610
cannot see why any intelligence
it no like, crap. I gotta find

1447
01:28:20,610 --> 01:28:22,770
this clip. Someone needs to find
it for me, because the way it

1448
01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:25,950
sound that is like he stuttered,
including himself as an

1449
01:28:25,950 --> 01:28:27,210
intelligence agency.

1450
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,600
That clip I would like because
that would be clip of the day if

1451
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,050
we could find that. The okay if
someone understood it properly.

1452
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:39,300
There was another little oopsie
from it may show up in the in

1453
01:28:39,300 --> 01:28:42,600
the database at C span once this
thing is Yeah, so we'll make a

1454
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:46,230
clip out of it problems that
transcript is done. This is the

1455
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:51,750
thing is what was this on?
MSNBC, Mike Haflinger. He's the

1456
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:55,710
former face back Global Business
Marketing head? Well, I think it

1457
01:28:55,710 --> 01:28:58,110
is and what happens when you're
trying to innovate, especially

1458
01:28:58,140 --> 01:29:01,470
at this scale. What happens is
you have to have an almost

1459
01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:04,140
ridiculous amount of optimism to
get up in the morning and build

1460
01:29:04,140 --> 01:29:06,570
the world something that didn't
exist before or certainly didn't

1461
01:29:06,570 --> 01:29:09,900
exist before at this scale. And
then when you do that, you begin

1462
01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:13,200
to discover that to be truly
successful in the long term. You

1463
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,710
also have to be very vigilant
and I think what we've seen and

1464
01:29:16,710 --> 01:29:19,110
I think we've heard it now from
Mark very clearly for a few

1465
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:21,600
weeks is that there's been an
enormous amount of invasion

1466
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,150
innovation and I think that's
undeniable but not

1467
01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:30,450
invasion. Good one the truth
always wants to come out doesn't

1468
01:29:30,450 --> 01:29:30,630
it?

1469
01:29:31,860 --> 01:29:36,600
Now, the in finalizing from my
end the I'm I was surprised that

1470
01:29:36,630 --> 01:29:40,110
my statement you can't monetize
the network is actually more

1471
01:29:40,110 --> 01:29:43,260
true than I realized that myself
I thought it was only What does

1472
01:29:43,260 --> 01:29:46,230
really hard to do this with
advertising. And just if you're

1473
01:29:46,230 --> 01:29:49,560
really not contributing to the
value network, like we have here

1474
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,770
had no agenda. You can't just
sit on the sidelines and have

1475
01:29:52,770 --> 01:29:55,830
some infrastructure and scoop
everything up. It just what it's

1476
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:59,520
it's some magical formula. It's
like the Fibonacci of the

1477
01:29:59,520 --> 01:29:59,970
internet.

1478
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,510
If you can't monetize it, and it
no matter what you try, okay,

1479
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:07,620
I'll try by by really the most
truly Truman esque

1480
01:30:08,940 --> 01:30:12,330
method. Even that is not working
because the people won't stand

1481
01:30:12,330 --> 01:30:16,230
for it. Eventually, I think that
face bag will lose, you just

1482
01:30:16,230 --> 01:30:17,250
can't monetize it.

1483
01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:24,960
I was I don't have a sound
effect for laughing.

1484
01:30:26,820 --> 01:30:27,480
By

1485
01:30:28,830 --> 01:30:31,860
I think they've done a fine job
of monetizing it already. It's

1486
01:30:31,860 --> 01:30:35,130
going to end. I don't think so.
Now, I don't think people Yeah,

1487
01:30:35,130 --> 01:30:37,680
people are gonna be all kinds of
Well, yeah, unless there's

1488
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,770
something that else that comes
on nothing has ever ended.

1489
01:30:41,250 --> 01:30:44,760
Unless something came along that
did it better? Well, I'm seeing

1490
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:50,160
I'm seeing a lot of GoFundMe
projects, Kickstarter projects,

1491
01:30:50,700 --> 01:30:54,120
for all kinds of devices that
really are trying to help avoid,

1492
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:58,350
you know, avoid the tracking.
You know, Mastodon, I think

1493
01:30:58,350 --> 01:31:02,100
still has a future. It wouldn't
take much. You know, it would

1494
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:06,270
just take the same kind of, you
know, divided the viral news. It

1495
01:31:06,270 --> 01:31:09,420
would take much and what the
much is celebrities,

1496
01:31:09,420 --> 01:31:13,200
celebrities, or celebrities are
making a huge difference. But

1497
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,890
the much really is people
actually caring. Well, most

1498
01:31:16,890 --> 01:31:20,070
people don't care about their
own privacy. They far as they're

1499
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:22,920
concerned by not doing anything
wrong. So they should they

1500
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,970
should they should stay on on
Facebook. That's well, oh, and

1501
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,920
by the way, I figured out who's
going to be on the database, the

1502
01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:35,370
department Homeland Security
journaux database list and

1503
01:31:35,370 --> 01:31:39,450
influencers? Yeah, it's obvious.
Everybody who's verified on

1504
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:39,900
Twitter.

1505
01:31:41,490 --> 01:31:45,780
Boom. Yeah, well, of course,
they're doing they're doing it

1506
01:31:45,780 --> 01:31:49,860
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you know,
answers. Yeah. Well, you said

1507
01:31:49,860 --> 01:31:51,300
the no agenda shows listed

1508
01:31:52,770 --> 01:31:55,890
well, because you you're
verified now,

1509
01:31:56,970 --> 01:32:00,420
you know, that they could know
that I'm verified and have

1510
01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:02,280
anything to do with the show
these lists, they put them

1511
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,370
together just on Google who
wouldn't have a podcasting

1512
01:32:05,370 --> 01:32:08,400
awards? These are probably the
influencers let's just put them

1513
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:09,090
on the list.

1514
01:32:10,110 --> 01:32:13,650
Sounds like the government to
me. It sounds very just like the

1515
01:32:13,650 --> 01:32:16,410
government and that doesn't mean
that what it means the bad news

1516
01:32:16,410 --> 01:32:20,970
is it means you're not going to
get a new listeners. Wow. Okay,

1517
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,680
well so downer. But with that, I
would like to thank you for your

1518
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,870
courage. And say in the morning
to you John C. C stands for

1519
01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:33,330
California Uber Allah's DeVore
ACK

1520
01:32:34,770 --> 01:32:37,950
in the morning to you Mr. Adam
curry in Memorial ships at sea

1521
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,620
boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water all the

1522
01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:44,040
names and dates out there in the
morning to the troll room.

1523
01:32:45,420 --> 01:32:50,940
No agenda stream.com Nice to see
you all. All there all the

1524
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:51,450
trolls

1525
01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:57,870
also home on where am I going
here I want to thank our artists

1526
01:32:57,870 --> 01:33:04,080
for episode 1023 That was warm
handoff the title of the show

1527
01:33:04,260 --> 01:33:08,970
and the cover art was actually
got people like this a lot it

1528
01:33:08,970 --> 01:33:10,980
was the crazy unglued

1529
01:33:13,860 --> 01:33:17,160
done by Sir Night of the Living
Dead so it was crazy glue

1530
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,340
attorney had no agenda crazy
unglued and it was really nice

1531
01:33:20,340 --> 01:33:23,730
right down to little RadioShack
price sticker that was $80 and

1532
01:33:24,030 --> 01:33:28,920
cents. Yeah, it was a good piece
had a lot of little it had all

1533
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,970
the elements of a good piece it
had the little sticker and had

1534
01:33:32,970 --> 01:33:33,210
the

1535
01:33:34,740 --> 01:33:39,870
just seeing something new in
this on the side is odd it says

1536
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:43,560
as little obfuscated by the
sticker it's a small hands small

1537
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,650
penis big red button. I didn't
even see that I saw

1538
01:33:48,330 --> 01:33:50,100
all this and more inside

1539
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,370
Good job, sir. Night of living
dead. Thank you. Yeah, I think

1540
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,460
that's a that was an evergreen
from some time ago. A

1541
01:34:00,780 --> 01:34:04,740
month or two. He may be Man
Overboard by now. Oh, I hope

1542
01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:08,280
not. It was good. I really liked
it. Yeah, enjoy more pieces.

1543
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:10,800
Enjoyed it. Yeah. All right. We
do have some people think we

1544
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,890
have executive producers, three
of them and Associate Executive

1545
01:34:13,890 --> 01:34:17,430
producers. Three of them we get
the three three balance, which

1546
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:20,430
is always good. Very nice.
Steven

1547
01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:26,670
strew Zelinsky Parts Unknown
came in as the top guy with

1548
01:34:26,700 --> 01:34:34,110
$413.96 What's this for? This?
Isn't that some? Combination of

1549
01:34:34,110 --> 01:34:38,760
its means something? It's some
Oh, is it half of 1024? No, of

1550
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,000
course not. No, it's not that I
think that is season no agenda

1551
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,110
show and the unfilter show
playing together as well. ITM

1552
01:34:46,110 --> 01:34:50,100
John and Adam saya whoever
that's all he says. No playing

1553
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:53,160
together. Well, not playing
together as well together well,

1554
01:34:53,220 --> 01:34:56,700
playing together well. And
that's all he says. So we didn't

1555
01:34:56,700 --> 01:35:00,000
have any 1024 nights. I liked
the promotion. Yeah.

1556
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,490
The promotion was good but
people weren't in the mood.

1557
01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:03,030
Okay.

1558
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,590
We're gonna leave it at 1024
Nice the bite night available

1559
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:09,360
for the next year. Okay.

1560
01:35:10,380 --> 01:35:15,960
Sir James Pires sir wire of the
hidden jewel in Escondido came

1561
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:23,430
in at $330.33 $33 and he says
ITM John Adams sucks. We can't

1562
01:35:24,210 --> 01:35:28,950
leave not in Paypal sucks. We
can't leave not in Pay Pal.

1563
01:35:29,340 --> 01:35:33,810
We'll try a note. Ah, you can
you can leave a note in Paypal I

1564
01:35:33,810 --> 01:35:36,690
know where people can't see that
they write things on the mobile

1565
01:35:36,690 --> 01:35:39,900
sometimes it might not work.
Mobile may be a problem we'll

1566
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:42,780
try by email thanks to you both
for keeping me and the no agenda

1567
01:35:42,780 --> 01:35:47,340
nation laughing insane please
wish my son EJ a happy birthday.

1568
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,420
He is 14 on the 12 and a
longtime listener All right

1569
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:57,090
please play E Jays jingles today
his favorite rules follower

1570
01:35:57,810 --> 01:36:02,610
bullshit sorry about that.
That's on the list but fired

1571
01:36:02,610 --> 01:36:03,480
accidentally.

1572
01:36:04,500 --> 01:36:09,000
Okay rule follower time to stand
Yeah, no Beatles and then

1573
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:12,600
bullshit but I don't know what
time to stand is we don't I

1574
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,440
don't know what time you have to
explain because I'm not sure

1575
01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:19,920
where that follower so if the
rule is that we have to do it

1576
01:36:19,950 --> 01:36:20,700
then I'll do it

1577
01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:32,610
you'll say Yeah, well you're
saying no, yeah, no, yeah, no,

1578
01:36:32,610 --> 01:36:37,320
yeah, no, yeah, no, I don't know
why you're saying yeah was

1579
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:38,310
saying no.

1580
01:36:39,330 --> 01:36:43,170
No, good. No Yeah, I got about
this one. I don't know why

1581
01:36:43,170 --> 01:36:45,990
you're saying was saying no.

1582
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:54,090
You've got karma. That was nice.
Yeah, you know, you know song is

1583
01:36:54,090 --> 01:36:58,650
great. I have forgotten Thank
you. Our last executive producer

1584
01:36:58,650 --> 01:37:00,390
steward Morrison sir Stuart

1585
01:37:02,370 --> 01:37:06,540
has been writing in a lot $301
And there's nothing either his

1586
01:37:06,540 --> 01:37:10,470
last notice in January so I have
no idea what the deal is with

1587
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:13,980
this what he wants from us but
he can send a note in late Thank

1588
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:16,950
you very much he maybe just
wants to help us and was like

1589
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:20,430
the guys no no needed and j&k

1590
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:27,180
Albert a versa 220 $2.03 Two to
the fifth donation for Episode

1591
01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:28,260
Two to the 10th

1592
01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:34,200
Ah nice new homeowner goat karma
because na karma works. A shout

1593
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,260
out to Sir Mike of Wakefield
from the ancient Shire in

1594
01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:41,640
Virginia. Some after EP
shapeshifting Jews would be just

1595
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,210
perfect. Love no agenda L from
CC.

1596
01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:50,640
I'll put a cryptic No, I guess
I'll put the shapeshifters in

1597
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,600
the end of show jobs. Jobs. Oh
no. I'm sorry. Didn't need jobs

1598
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,470
would just go karma. Good new
homeowner goat goat karma. I'm

1599
01:37:58,470 --> 01:38:01,050
sorry. Here we go. You've got

1600
01:38:03,150 --> 01:38:10,140
it works more reliably informed.
Ms. Jamie Christiansen in

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01:38:10,170 --> 01:38:18,450
selbourne, Texas MS. MS. MS. As
I said Ms. $210 Ms. Jamie have

1602
01:38:18,450 --> 01:38:23,460
the highway currently in clay
Cleburne Texas labor here's my

1603
01:38:23,550 --> 01:38:27,660
10 bit donation to to the 10
move to the best podcast his

1604
01:38:29,670 --> 01:38:33,150
best podcast in the universe I'm
halfway to Dame hood and realize

1605
01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:36,030
I have yet to be de douche to do
that.

1606
01:38:37,710 --> 01:38:42,120
You You've been de Deus nice and
fresh. This is no jingles no

1607
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:49,470
karma 70 threes though and E op.
Slash five is probably her

1608
01:38:49,470 --> 01:38:49,920
mobile

1609
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,200
oh wait no, I don't know could
be could be part of a club

1610
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,420
station. Well 70 threes and

1611
01:38:58,440 --> 01:39:02,520
nada it's November three echo
Oscar Papa from Quito five Alpha

1612
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:07,110
Charlie, Charlie. ITM, Kevin
Kevin tango mirazur in

1613
01:39:07,110 --> 01:39:10,620
Brentwood, California 200. Even
he'll be our last Associate

1614
01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:14,400
Executive Producer. Just want to
say to you both. I would like to

1615
01:39:14,730 --> 01:39:19,200
just want to say thank you to
you both. I would also like to

1616
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,830
thank all those who support the
show. If one of you can

1617
01:39:22,830 --> 01:39:25,800
pronounce my name right, I will
match this donation.

1618
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:29,100
John Scott's Brentwood

1619
01:39:30,270 --> 01:39:33,120
Brentwood east of the mudflats
is Brentwood Club. We're here

1620
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:37,440
buy me a cabin address, which is
the way I pronounce it, but it's

1621
01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:43,080
probably I'll look it up and
Colin drazi and I'll bring it up

1622
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,390
on the next show because he
doesn't have a time limit on

1623
01:39:45,390 --> 01:39:48,930
this. Ah, ah, if you do want to
you can pronounce my name right

1624
01:39:48,930 --> 01:39:52,140
that will match this donation.
So that's coming on the next

1625
01:39:52,140 --> 01:39:53,640
show. You're such a lawyer.

1626
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,330
Dress. Dress. Nice.

1627
01:39:58,830 --> 01:39:59,970
Well, thank you very much to our

1628
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,010
executive producers and our
Associate Executive Producers

1629
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:03,480
even balanced three to three.

1630
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:07,560
I appreciate that very much. And
of course these credits are real

1631
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,560
and are recognized and or you
can use them anywhere credits

1632
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,050
are recognized. People like
putting it on the LinkedIn, it

1633
01:40:13,050 --> 01:40:15,930
gets sucked into all of those
data brokers. And before you

1634
01:40:15,930 --> 01:40:18,420
know it, you're known around the
universe on all the social and

1635
01:40:18,450 --> 01:40:21,870
all the socialists, as
socialists as an executive

1636
01:40:21,870 --> 01:40:25,110
producer of the best podcast in
the universe, no agenda Show,

1637
01:40:25,290 --> 01:40:29,550
Episode 1020 And we'll be
thinking more people $50 or

1638
01:40:29,550 --> 01:40:32,250
above coming up a little bit
later on. And remember, we have

1639
01:40:32,250 --> 01:40:35,430
another show coming up on Sunday
I will be here still in the

1640
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:39,540
lowlands. John, you will also be
on the road. I'll be in Biloxi,

1641
01:40:39,540 --> 01:40:42,810
Mississippi, and I hope to have
a meet up that night. I don't

1642
01:40:42,810 --> 01:40:46,230
have the location or any details
yet. So it'll be sent out email

1643
01:40:46,230 --> 01:40:48,870
and tweeted. Yeah, this is the
only thing I've failed at so

1644
01:40:48,870 --> 01:40:52,140
far. I have not gotten my head
around doing a meet up just yet.

1645
01:40:52,290 --> 01:40:56,370
It's a it's a bit so it takes a
little I've been on cloud nine

1646
01:40:56,490 --> 01:40:59,670
you know if it's just living the
life of Riley there with the

1647
01:40:59,670 --> 01:41:02,130
King and Queen drinking cheap
wine.

1648
01:41:03,450 --> 01:41:06,660
And that's right everybody makes
sure you let everybody know

1649
01:41:06,660 --> 01:41:11,700
we're all over the world and
propagate formula is this. We go

1650
01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:13,830
out we get people in the mouth

1651
01:41:25,740 --> 01:41:28,950
you'll be very happy to hear
this extremely disturbing

1652
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:33,480
report. John, you were the one
that brought our attention to

1653
01:41:33,570 --> 01:41:34,620
poop particles

1654
01:41:36,450 --> 01:41:40,890
in the bathroom specifically on
mobile phones, foams, phones.

1655
01:41:41,970 --> 01:41:45,990
Remember that? Well, the report
came out.

1656
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:50,730
And I'm sure this is this could
be the paper towel company who's

1657
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,720
who's making this putting the
story out there by a bet

1658
01:41:54,750 --> 01:41:59,340
bathroom hand dryers as it turns
out, actually suck in the poop

1659
01:41:59,340 --> 01:42:03,480
particles that blow it
throughout the entire place and

1660
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:07,350
onto your hand and poop just
standing right there. Especially

1661
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:08,340
if it's a Dyson

1662
01:42:10,530 --> 01:42:14,070
Yeah, you breathe and poop you
breathe and poop people.

1663
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:19,860
Man, you know, you know this is
somebody finally hired a PR you

1664
01:42:19,860 --> 01:42:23,010
know we're debt your kid.
They're killing us here. In

1665
01:42:23,010 --> 01:42:26,430
sales of our rolls of tape. What
are we gonna do? We got to get

1666
01:42:26,430 --> 01:42:27,870
people off of the blowers.

1667
01:42:32,730 --> 01:42:34,980
Yeah, I know. Poop.

1668
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,490
Poop particles. That's almost
like the guy doing the the

1669
01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:44,610
book.com but a big bottle book.
It's like, I know who particles.

1670
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,660
That's right. It's gotta be that
it's got to be a native app that

1671
01:42:48,660 --> 01:42:52,020
must have started out that way.
But probably just a promotion. I

1672
01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:54,000
don't think they would pay to
get these things run. You could

1673
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,700
just once you come up with a
story like that you can launch

1674
01:42:56,700 --> 01:42:59,850
the application anyone who's not
going to run that? Let me just

1675
01:42:59,850 --> 01:43:03,120
see who did the survey. Link
check. This is where this is

1676
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,450
deconstruction. This is worth
doing it. Let me say I've man

1677
01:43:06,450 --> 01:43:09,930
Boing Boing has a great photo of
when this really horrible ALB

1678
01:43:10,410 --> 01:43:15,300
the paint is all moldy. Oh my
god. Bobby sent that out with

1679
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:19,260
the press release. Oh, yeah.
Must be here. A new study in

1680
01:43:19,260 --> 01:43:24,870
applied and environmental
microbiology. Woohoo. Let's take

1681
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:27,390
a look at this. I can't believe
I didn't do this. And this may

1682
01:43:27,390 --> 01:43:32,070
be show prep for for Sunday. Let
me see. What is this

1683
01:43:32,340 --> 01:43:35,430
publication? This is from the
American Society for

1684
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:36,630
Microbiology.

1685
01:43:38,190 --> 01:43:42,750
That sounds legit. Oh, anything
can sound legit. We can do that.

1686
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:48,810
The no agenda Consulting Group,
the American Society for

1687
01:43:48,810 --> 01:43:50,970
Microbiology. Yeah.

1688
01:43:53,580 --> 01:43:56,160
Yeah. Okay, well, we'll get up
to

1689
01:43:57,690 --> 01:43:59,910
let me see you then have
recommendations don't they have

1690
01:43:59,910 --> 01:44:03,720
to? You have to read the whole
thing to get there. See oldest

1691
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,720
is the oldest and largest single
life sciences membership

1692
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:11,130
organization in the world.
membership has grown from 59

1693
01:44:11,130 --> 01:44:15,900
Scientists in 1899 to more than
39,000 members.

1694
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:20,580
So it's a good they got went to
the right group. It sure seems

1695
01:44:20,580 --> 01:44:25,260
like it here department of the
participants or MEC affiliations

1696
01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:28,950
Rutgers and the State University
of New Jersey for Kimberly

1697
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:29,550
Clark.

1698
01:44:31,380 --> 01:44:35,130
Maybe some Johnson and Johnson
MBC.

1699
01:44:36,150 --> 01:44:39,990
Make paper products. Crown
Zellerbach does another one to

1700
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:45,060
look for now. Okay, we'll work
on it. Yeah. Nail it. It's going

1701
01:44:45,060 --> 01:44:49,980
to be easy. Yeah. It starts off
with hot air hand dryers

1702
01:44:50,010 --> 01:44:52,200
multiple men's and women's
bathrooms and three basic

1703
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,690
science research areas in the
academic health center were

1704
01:44:54,690 --> 01:45:00,000
screened for their deposition on
plates of told

1705
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,320
We'll back plates chon plates of
total bacteria. What does that

1706
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,760
mean? Well, they put some petri
dishes out with some I thought

1707
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,060
like our a gar and that's all
what happened not the Kings

1708
01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:15,510
lunch was bad here they have
plates of total bacteria, some

1709
01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:21,420
of which were identified in a
canal missin resistant, Bacillus

1710
01:45:21,450 --> 01:45:25,740
subtilis strain spores which are
produced in large amounts in one

1711
01:45:25,740 --> 01:45:28,830
basic science research
laboratory plates exposed to

1712
01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:34,410
hand dryer air for 30 seconds.
Average 18 to 16 colonies per

1713
01:45:34,410 --> 01:45:34,950
plate.

1714
01:45:36,690 --> 01:45:40,230
But interior hand dryer nozzle
surfaces had minimal bacteria

1715
01:45:40,230 --> 01:45:45,450
levels. Ah, okay. So it really
is the it really is the blower.

1716
01:45:46,410 --> 01:45:47,340
This is great.

1717
01:45:48,570 --> 01:45:52,320
Yeah, this technology for this
new Professor Ted, he was right.

1718
01:45:52,740 --> 01:45:54,930
Instant technology is only going
to kill us.

1719
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,370
So have you written to tennis
even get an interview? Man? I

1720
01:45:59,370 --> 01:46:01,500
don't think he's allowed to
think he can do written

1721
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:04,890
interviews. But I'm sure he'll
that's bull crap. He should be

1722
01:46:04,890 --> 01:46:07,890
able to do interviews, and I'm
sure he doesn't care. Start

1723
01:46:07,890 --> 01:46:10,590
working on it. Well, he might
care because he knows that

1724
01:46:10,590 --> 01:46:11,730
you're a big fan.

1725
01:46:14,700 --> 01:46:18,090
We have the love affair.
kindling. It's been a while but

1726
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:22,620
we know we can always rely on
the old horn dog, Matt Lee. I

1727
01:46:22,620 --> 01:46:26,520
mean, he's just he's always
good. He's always good.

1728
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,260
He's a flirt. He's a flirt. And
Heather is worth flirting with

1729
01:46:32,130 --> 01:46:32,790
the girl. Yeah.

1730
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,200
He's got that he's got a pretty
molest Lois voice good flirt

1731
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:41,730
voice Heather had Heather's
she's gotta watch it her. You

1732
01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:45,150
know, I should if we're going to
do this now entering

1733
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,760
executive mode. Yes. We're
entering executive mode ladies

1734
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,560
and gentlemen. Just so you know.

1735
01:46:53,610 --> 01:46:56,520
Yeah. Good. Go for that. We
actually get we got another one

1736
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:57,360
here from someone else.

1737
01:46:59,850 --> 01:47:01,500
During executive mode.

1738
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:08,460
Executive mood. Yes. You know,
should have an MBA you guys did

1739
01:47:08,460 --> 01:47:12,780
that. Do an exit. We have an
exit. Ha good. Haha. That's

1740
01:47:12,780 --> 01:47:15,330
standing by. Yes. That's of
course sir. Chris, of course, he

1741
01:47:15,330 --> 01:47:17,640
has an exit. We're in the
executive mode.

1742
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:22,620
She's got to watch her resting
bitchface which is a term I

1743
01:47:22,620 --> 01:47:26,130
didn't come up with women call
it this. And when she's unhappy

1744
01:47:26,130 --> 01:47:29,640
with what's going on, and her
mouth starts to droop and it is

1745
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:33,120
really doesn't mean it's not
attractive. She has she has a

1746
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:37,770
nice smile. And she has a very
jolly she had jolly face. Don't

1747
01:47:37,770 --> 01:47:42,840
you think? She's pretty issued a
pixie like, demeanor? Our head

1748
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:47,010
is kind of a square head. She
looks like Betty Boop. Yeah,

1749
01:47:47,010 --> 01:47:51,750
okay. Yeah, that's that. Yeah.
Otherwise very simple. But she

1750
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:55,110
was so happy but she started off
her press briefing the other

1751
01:47:55,110 --> 01:47:59,970
day. Oh, I think we can exit now
entering. Oh, no, no, no, I did

1752
01:47:59,970 --> 01:48:02,670
exit. Damnit. Where are we
exiting? I think we're still

1753
01:48:02,670 --> 01:48:06,750
gonna stay in the mode. Okay.
I'm sorry. Yeah. What am I

1754
01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:09,030
thinking? Let's stay in the
mode. Are you talking about him

1755
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:12,720
crazy. He's still talking about
her. Yeah, I forgot. Okay, so

1756
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,390
she would she he flirted with
her. She's not. We're getting to

1757
01:48:15,390 --> 01:48:18,570
the flirting is coming. But
first, she walks in. She's back

1758
01:48:18,570 --> 01:48:22,620
from vacation. She's super
happy. Then she clunks her book

1759
01:48:22,620 --> 01:48:25,320
down on the table. And what are
we always bitching about in

1760
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,500
these in this book is the
biggest book in the world and

1761
01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:32,490
world history. huge, giant
voluminous book.

1762
01:48:33,570 --> 01:48:37,380
Yeah, I'm gonna replay that for
you because she she plops the

1763
01:48:37,380 --> 01:48:37,950
book down.

1764
01:48:39,570 --> 01:48:44,550
Dammit. Sorry, I'm failing. Here
we go. Hi. Good afternoon. Nice

1765
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:46,920
to see you all. Do you notice
anything different?

1766
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:52,410
Yeah, the book bigger little
book. I went on vacation and the

1767
01:48:52,410 --> 01:48:56,520
book went on a diet. Her book
was shrunk the book. Yeah, the

1768
01:48:56,520 --> 01:49:00,450
book was really thin. I mean,
you know, the binders that they

1769
01:49:00,450 --> 01:49:05,220
are? Maybe somebody listens to
our show. Maybe Heather listens

1770
01:49:05,220 --> 01:49:08,880
to our show. Oh, dammit. The
boys didn't like my outfit.

1771
01:49:09,570 --> 01:49:15,000
Crap. What am I the book size?
It's about my book. Okay, I did

1772
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,280
something about you. I would
enjoy that. So we'll see how

1773
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:18,150
this works today.

1774
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:24,270
Quality has replaced quantity.
Oh, there's Matt. Quality has

1775
01:49:24,270 --> 01:49:28,470
replaced quantity Heather. Hmm.
The he's so smooth.

1776
01:49:30,060 --> 01:49:32,430
We got to drink beer with this
guy. Today.

1777
01:49:33,660 --> 01:49:36,990
Quality has replaced quantity. I
don't know about that. It's kind

1778
01:49:36,990 --> 01:49:39,150
of like when my kids go to
school and I use that

1779
01:49:39,150 --> 01:49:42,630
opportunity to clean their rooms
and they don't notice. That's

1780
01:49:42,630 --> 01:49:44,700
exactly what I did. The past
week.

1781
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:52,410
Oh, yes. So nice. Here is now
this what happened here and Matt

1782
01:49:52,410 --> 01:49:56,820
kind of gets into it with her.
There was a reporter was killed

1783
01:49:56,820 --> 01:49:59,550
by the Israeli Defense Forces
and there's a lot of crap going

1784
01:49:59,550 --> 01:49:59,970
on now.

1785
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,900
Look at their border wall. If
you haven't followed it, um,

1786
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:09,510
this reporter who was wearing a
press Flak Jacket, apparently,

1787
01:50:11,010 --> 01:50:17,280
he was from Hamas. And and they
shot him. And so you have Saeed

1788
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:21,210
and and he asked a question
like, you know what happened

1789
01:50:21,210 --> 01:50:24,300
here? And you know, how can you
guys have recognized this and

1790
01:50:24,420 --> 01:50:27,690
how come you're not talking
about it? How come it's Yeah.

1791
01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:30,540
And she's like, Oh, well, you
know, yes, I'm aware of that

1792
01:50:30,540 --> 01:50:33,660
report being very sketchy about
it. But Matt's ready to pounce.

1793
01:50:33,930 --> 01:50:36,960
I'm sorry. You said you're aware
of reports that a journalist was

1794
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,960
killed. You haven't been able to
confirm it. But the guy was

1795
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,260
buried over the weekend at a
funeral that was quite, you

1796
01:50:43,260 --> 01:50:46,710
know, it was attended by a lot
of people. And I'm aware of

1797
01:50:46,710 --> 01:50:50,070
that. Yes. But not just over
reports. I mean, you know, that

1798
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:54,150
this guy was described? Yes. And
I think you might know a little

1799
01:50:54,150 --> 01:50:58,920
bit more, maybe, maybe not, but
because this the company that he

1800
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:04,470
worked for that he co founded,
and CO owned, had last month,

1801
01:51:05,070 --> 01:51:10,710
gotten been vetted and was
approved for a grant from USA ID

1802
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:11,880
now

1803
01:51:13,170 --> 01:51:16,290
did kill. First of all, can you
say that? That is true? That

1804
01:51:16,290 --> 01:51:20,010
That is correct. My
understanding is that he was

1805
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:24,510
vetted, according to US
government guidelines. But I

1806
01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:28,410
don't have anything more for you
on that. Okay. So would

1807
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:32,760
the US government guidelines
would allow for a member of

1808
01:51:32,790 --> 01:51:36,630
Hamas to get off? I don't know
the specifics of the case. I've

1809
01:51:36,630 --> 01:51:39,930
not been involved in any of
that. But if I get anything for

1810
01:51:39,930 --> 01:51:43,560
you on that. Israeli Defense
Minister has said that although

1811
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:47,430
he was wearing a bulletproof
vest with a WordPress clearly

1812
01:51:47,610 --> 01:51:51,840
bladed on it, he was a member of
Hamas, a member of Hamas armed

1813
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:57,240
wing, and it was the equivalent
rank of captain and that he was

1814
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,640
disguising himself as a
journalist. And I want to know,

1815
01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:04,530
I mean, if he was in fact vetted
and approved by USA ID for for a

1816
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:10,080
US taxpayer grant. Either the
USA ID vetting process is not

1817
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:16,260
very good. Or it allows for the
for a potential possible Hamas

1818
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:19,650
militants to get us funding or
the Israeli Defense Minister is

1819
01:52:19,650 --> 01:52:22,650
wrong. All I can say is that
we're looking into that. Well.

1820
01:52:23,970 --> 01:52:28,380
What do you not know he has now?
Yeah, it was a spook or Birdman.

1821
01:52:28,380 --> 01:52:31,260
How did that happen? That seemed
I don't know. But I think Matt

1822
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:34,410
nailed something. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. He laid the trap. These.

1823
01:52:35,070 --> 01:52:38,220
By the way. I haven't seen this
on the WaPo. Whopper. Whopper

1824
01:52:38,220 --> 01:52:42,000
Whopper Whopper. Now, why would
you? I'm just a podcaster.

1825
01:52:43,020 --> 01:52:48,840
Now it's like the guy was Hamas
captain, he somehow got a US a

1826
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:54,510
idea American taxpayer grant to
be a journalist in the field or

1827
01:52:54,510 --> 01:52:58,020
something. And the Israeli said
apparently had enough on this

1828
01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:00,780
guy. They knew who he was. He
was a captain. And they decided

1829
01:53:00,780 --> 01:53:05,700
to gun him down. I guess from
from from 1200 feet. Even though

1830
01:53:05,700 --> 01:53:07,440
that's a sniper, you can do
that. 12

1831
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:13,290
point is doing the press had
been told you're safe up to 500

1832
01:53:13,290 --> 01:53:13,710
feet.

1833
01:53:16,410 --> 01:53:19,500
Anything you know, close to
them? Don't anybody close and

1834
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:23,790
500 feet is in trouble. So he
was back, you know, 1200 feet.

1835
01:53:24,150 --> 01:53:26,520
So yeah, they picked them off.
Obviously.

1836
01:53:27,810 --> 01:53:28,200
Yeah.

1837
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:33,660
As its send, send even over
there to shoot him.

1838
01:53:35,820 --> 01:53:39,150
So she's acting dumb about this.
Yeah. shot shot in the field.

1839
01:53:39,150 --> 01:53:41,970
Yeah. And that was the biggest
credentials. Yeah, this is a big

1840
01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:44,160
press thing. The press, you
know, that's one of their own.

1841
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,690
Ma. It's one of their own. So
what else not one of their own

1842
01:53:48,690 --> 01:53:52,200
if you consider that half the
presses, spooks. Yeah. They

1843
01:53:52,980 --> 01:53:56,490
that's why they all went to the
funeral, I guess. But then

1844
01:53:56,490 --> 01:53:59,640
Heather, just that a little
announcement and it caught my

1845
01:53:59,670 --> 01:54:02,820
ear. So great to see you all
again. Hope you are having a

1846
01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:05,190
terrific day. A couple of
announcements to bring you

1847
01:54:05,190 --> 01:54:08,970
first. As many of you know, the
Qatari emir is in Washington

1848
01:54:08,970 --> 01:54:13,770
today. We warmly welcome him His
Highness Qatari emir Al Thani to

1849
01:54:13,770 --> 01:54:16,470
the United States. Now, isn't
this interesting. And this is

1850
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:20,700
where we will start to
transition to Syria. For to have

1851
01:54:20,700 --> 01:54:25,020
the Qatari emir in Washington
speaking with the President, the

1852
01:54:25,020 --> 01:54:29,610
United States at the very
moment, the Qatar, Saudi Arabia,

1853
01:54:29,790 --> 01:54:34,800
Jordan, Turkey, are all playing
shenanigans for their pipeline

1854
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:39,060
because that's what it is. I've
really done my checking on this.

1855
01:54:40,170 --> 01:54:43,830
You know, Trump clearly knows
more than he's letting on. And

1856
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:46,830
if he's complicit, you know,
that's, that's what he should be

1857
01:54:46,830 --> 01:54:51,180
impeached for. If he actually is
going to take this crazy ass

1858
01:54:51,180 --> 01:54:51,750
bait.

1859
01:54:53,340 --> 01:54:57,420
But to have the Qatari emir in
DC, I thought was perfect timing

1860
01:54:57,420 --> 01:54:59,970
and kind of confirms that
there's something going on V

1861
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,780
or being told the President met
with Emir a short while ago and

1862
01:55:03,780 --> 01:55:06,390
Acting Secretary Sullivan will
meet with him this afternoon.

1863
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:09,540
Qatar is a highly valued
strategic partner to the United

1864
01:55:09,540 --> 01:55:12,600
States and also a friend. You
may recall that we held the

1865
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,810
inaugural us Qatar strategic
dialogue here at the State

1866
01:55:15,810 --> 01:55:19,560
Department on January the 30th,
during which we collaborated on

1867
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:24,180
defense, counterterrorism, human
rights, trade, aviation and also

1868
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:27,420
investment. We're building upon
that dialogue and look forward

1869
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:30,090
to discussing these and other
important issues of bilateral

1870
01:55:30,090 --> 01:55:33,360
cooperation during the years
visit. Since the dialogue and

1871
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:37,500
building on our July 2017
counterterrorism MOU, Qatar has

1872
01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:40,140
continued to advance its
counterterrorism and counter

1873
01:55:40,140 --> 01:55:44,490
terror financing efforts. Yeah,
sure. I don't know if you have

1874
01:55:44,490 --> 01:55:47,070
any clips on Syria, but I have
I'd like to dive in a little

1875
01:55:47,070 --> 01:55:47,370
bit.

1876
01:55:48,540 --> 01:55:52,770
I have a few. Let's see what we
got. I have I just go back

1877
01:55:52,770 --> 01:55:53,610
before.

1878
01:55:54,630 --> 01:55:56,280
Before the more recent

1879
01:55:57,300 --> 01:56:03,630
phony baloney action in Syria.
This is a pre prequel to that

1880
01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:06,240
this is before any of this
happened. This was from a couple

1881
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:10,440
of days before and I just
carried this. I haven't I was

1882
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,930
wanting to bring it up before I
never did this. Is this stuck in

1883
01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:13,890
Syria clip?

1884
01:56:16,710 --> 01:56:18,210
Yes, got it.

1885
01:56:20,700 --> 01:56:24,390
Mission accomplished as the war
drags on the president telling

1886
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:27,570
the Pentagon to finish the
battle. Even though the military

1887
01:56:27,570 --> 01:56:31,890
argues ISIS is still a threat.
According to two US officials, a

1888
01:56:31,890 --> 01:56:34,650
contentious national security
meeting after the president

1889
01:56:34,650 --> 01:56:37,800
declared Tuesday, I want to get
out I want to bring our troops

1890
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,650
back home, even as his top
commander for the region was

1891
01:56:40,650 --> 01:56:43,680
saying it is too soon. The hard
part I think is in front of us.

1892
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,730
And that is stabilizing these
areas, consolidating our gains

1893
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,430
tonight military advisors
scrambling to prevent the

1894
01:56:50,430 --> 01:56:53,550
president from ceding the
battlefield to Russia and Iran,

1895
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:57,030
whose leaders were meeting on
Syria today. Nothing could be

1896
01:56:57,030 --> 01:57:01,470
more attractive, certainly to
the Iranian Revolutionary Guards

1897
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,080
than they had the president
united states saying we're on

1898
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,800
the verge of pulling out you own
the country. To US officials

1899
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:10,740
tell NBC News the president
reluctantly agreed to keep

1900
01:57:10,740 --> 01:57:14,790
troops in Syria asking how much
more time do you need six months

1901
01:57:14,820 --> 01:57:18,240
a year, the White House later
saying the military mission to

1902
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:22,380
eradicate ISIS in Syria is
coming to a rapid end with ISIS

1903
01:57:22,380 --> 01:57:25,620
being almost completely
destroyed. Not true is a current

1904
01:57:25,620 --> 01:57:29,400
and former officials. ISIS is
not defeated and another terror

1905
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:33,150
threat news Oh chi does global
leadership has begun to shift

1906
01:57:33,150 --> 01:57:37,410
from Afghanistan and Pakistan to
Syria taking advantage of the

1907
01:57:37,410 --> 01:57:40,140
conflict taking advantage of the
of the chaos.

1908
01:57:42,090 --> 01:57:45,960
Bull crap. You know, I had a
couple of thoughts during that

1909
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:51,960
clip. It maybe I should the
premise all of this by and I

1910
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,510
just want to I want to make sure
that you're in agreement that

1911
01:57:54,510 --> 01:57:58,320
this to me and everything I've
seen particularly you go back

1912
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:03,000
and look at Genie energy, stock
symbol g n e very interesting

1913
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,790
chart went way down, I'm just
gonna go up, they have the

1914
01:58:05,790 --> 01:58:08,100
rights to the Golan Heights,
they got a lot of rights to the

1915
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:12,900
drilling. Right in that
contested area of Syria, when

1916
01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:16,200
Syria has 2.6 billion barrels, I
mean, they do have some

1917
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,870
hydrocarbons and minerals that
are interesting. But more

1918
01:58:18,870 --> 01:58:21,930
importantly, there has been this
ongoing battle. This is what a

1919
01:58:21,930 --> 01:58:25,590
lot of this has been about from
Qatar, the gas pipe goes up

1920
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:31,080
through Syria, goes into Turkey
then goes into the EU versus the

1921
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,740
Russian Iranian pipeline which
goes Iran Iraq, Syria, and then

1922
01:58:34,740 --> 01:58:38,430
there's the deepwater port
there. They might even consider

1923
01:58:38,610 --> 01:58:42,900
piping some off to Lebanon and
this is just competition and

1924
01:58:44,340 --> 01:58:47,340
the idea that we were pulling
out here's what I think happened

1925
01:58:47,340 --> 01:58:48,630
the idea that we're pulling out

1926
01:58:51,330 --> 01:58:55,680
scared the French because total
oil the all these guys are in it

1927
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,500
that's why the UK and everyone's
all Ford and all the war mongers

1928
01:58:58,500 --> 01:59:03,630
and the Neo cons in the UK is
making a big big splash right

1929
01:59:03,660 --> 01:59:05,670
and I think what might have
happened

1930
01:59:06,780 --> 01:59:10,440
here's what I wish would happen
this is better I wish that this

1931
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:15,750
in the in Trump's world he went
Ah crap look what they're doing

1932
01:59:15,750 --> 01:59:18,810
because of course we have all of
a sudden other chemical weapons

1933
01:59:18,810 --> 01:59:22,680
strike and I've been receiving
YouTube videos and then all

1934
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,800
kinds of articles all morning
from our military connections.

1935
01:59:26,370 --> 01:59:30,570
And you know the the gas
canister the chlorine gas

1936
01:59:30,570 --> 01:59:32,610
canister this one that came
through the roof and didn't

1937
01:59:32,610 --> 01:59:35,970
explode. They show it it has
merch on the side is made in

1938
01:59:35,970 --> 01:59:40,620
Germany. And and it was the
Saudis likely the word this or

1939
01:59:40,620 --> 01:59:43,740
Qatar, he's probably the Saudis.
They've got our jets and they

1940
01:59:43,740 --> 01:59:45,840
were dropping this stuff and
Trump's like, oh crap, they're

1941
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,450
gonna try and pull me in with
this. And I think I will hope

1942
01:59:48,450 --> 01:59:52,290
and my world I think I really
hope he went. I'm going to do

1943
01:59:52,290 --> 01:59:55,980
the crazy guy shit. Watch this.
I'm gonna bomb you with the

1944
01:59:55,980 --> 01:59:59,970
smartest fastest shit. I'm gonna
blow I'm gonna mess you up bro.

1945
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,300
Oh, and that's why all of a
sudden the Brits and the French

1946
02:00:03,300 --> 02:00:06,540
went oh man. No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, we just wanted to

1947
02:00:06,540 --> 02:00:08,490
stay there. Don't go crazy, bro.

1948
02:00:10,500 --> 02:00:14,970
It's a distinct possibility. It
is a distinct possibility, I

1949
02:00:14,970 --> 02:00:19,140
hope. I hope it is what he did.
Because otherwise it's like,

1950
02:00:19,170 --> 02:00:21,300
wait a minute, you're gonna
leave a minute ago and now you

1951
02:00:21,300 --> 02:00:24,420
want to bomb the crap out of
everybody and start a war? Yeah,

1952
02:00:24,990 --> 02:00:28,260
let's come up with otherwise
he's he's taken the bait and

1953
02:00:28,260 --> 02:00:30,930
he's an idiot. Very possible.

1954
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,310
Both both scenarios are
possible. Yeah, we don't. It's

1955
02:00:35,310 --> 02:00:39,300
like George Bush. Who? Yeah,
when he was in office, it was

1956
02:00:39,330 --> 02:00:42,420
was Is he an idiot or the
shrewdest man in the world?

1957
02:00:42,630 --> 02:00:46,650
Because he would they claim BOTH
Yeah. Oh, what a dummy. What a

1958
02:00:46,650 --> 02:00:50,940
dummy. All Man, these guys is
conniving. The antichrist. I

1959
02:00:50,940 --> 02:00:53,190
mean, give me a break. It's
either one or the other. So we

1960
02:00:53,190 --> 02:00:55,470
don't know. And that was Trump's
smart enough to become

1961
02:00:55,470 --> 02:00:58,020
president. I think this would
goals everybody that can't

1962
02:00:58,020 --> 02:01:00,720
believe it. Right. So maybe
you're right, maybe your thesis

1963
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:04,590
is correct. I want to play these
three short clips from PBS,

1964
02:01:04,980 --> 02:01:08,430
where they had the ex ambassador
to NATO. And he said with some

1965
02:01:08,430 --> 02:01:12,120
connections to Syria, who came
on and did with the scary with

1966
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:17,880
the scary stuff. And, and then
we get to hear the PBS NewsHour

1967
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:23,610
guy, repeat a nonsense claim.
And I want to just deconstruct

1968
02:01:23,610 --> 02:01:28,020
that, but let's play escalation
potential PBS Syria, for

1969
02:01:28,020 --> 02:01:29,400
background. Okay.

1970
02:01:30,810 --> 02:01:33,330
President Trump tweeted this
morning, the missiles are

1971
02:01:33,330 --> 02:01:36,630
coming. Let's say we do go
forward. What are the options

1972
02:01:36,630 --> 02:01:40,680
for the US? Well, I think the
first thing to consider here is

1973
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:43,890
that the options will flow from
the purpose of the attack,

1974
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:46,410
meaning what we want to get out
of the objectives, right. And

1975
02:01:46,410 --> 02:01:49,410
these have to come from a very
deliberate process inside the

1976
02:01:49,410 --> 02:01:54,030
Situation Room, led by National
Security Adviser a bolton and

1977
02:01:54,030 --> 02:01:56,310
ultimately approved by the
President. So once the

1978
02:01:56,310 --> 02:02:00,480
objectives are set, and here, I
imagine the objectives are

1979
02:02:00,570 --> 02:02:03,390
reasonably simple, and that is
to punish those responsible for

1980
02:02:03,390 --> 02:02:07,230
this particular attack to impose
costs. And by way of those

1981
02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:11,490
costs, attempt to deter future
attacks. And if that's the

1982
02:02:11,490 --> 02:02:15,060
objective, from that flows,
tasks to the intelligence

1983
02:02:15,060 --> 02:02:18,090
community, tasked to the
diplomatic community and test to

1984
02:02:18,090 --> 02:02:21,960
the military, that we've heard
that the Russians have said, if

1985
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,870
the US strikes, they might
strike back, not only will they

1986
02:02:24,870 --> 02:02:27,930
try to knock our missiles down,
but they might even target the

1987
02:02:27,930 --> 02:02:31,860
platforms from which we launched
those attacks. Is this just

1988
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,650
Russian saber rattling? How do
you how do you seriously do you

1989
02:02:34,650 --> 02:02:37,320
take that? Well, the thing that
concerns me about this sort of

1990
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:41,910
exchange of rhetoric on our
side, but then the response on

1991
02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:45,300
the Russian so as you can
already see a pattern of

1992
02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:49,650
escalation, even in the
rhetoric, and the challenge here

1993
02:02:49,710 --> 02:02:53,940
is that such escalatory steps
can be imagined to be

1994
02:02:53,940 --> 02:02:57,300
controllable from inside the
Situation Room, they might, we

1995
02:02:57,300 --> 02:03:00,690
might imagine that these are
discrete, controllable steps.

1996
02:03:00,810 --> 02:03:05,010
But in practice, they are often
out of control, and we can lose

1997
02:03:05,010 --> 02:03:08,730
control, and they can spiral in
an escalatory manner, because of

1998
02:03:08,730 --> 02:03:12,240
miscalculation and
misperceptions. So the danger

1999
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:15,000
here, I think, is that we launch
into something that becomes

2000
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:15,690
escalatory.

2001
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:19,830
And that's how World War one
started.

2002
02:03:21,690 --> 02:03:27,030
Yeah, it's a dangerous game.
It's a dangerous game. Now. Oh,

2003
02:03:27,030 --> 02:03:30,660
go ahead. Yeah. Well, well, I
was gonna, I haven't. I'm not.

2004
02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:34,530
I'm trying to think where my NPR
clip fits in there. Let's do

2005
02:03:34,530 --> 02:03:37,860
another one. I got another one I
get here's another follow up

2006
02:03:37,860 --> 02:03:40,680
that and then I have the link. I
can play both these that it

2007
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:44,760
makes some sense. Okay, let's do
the X escalation potential. Do

2008
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:45,360
nothing.

2009
02:03:47,370 --> 02:03:50,670
What do you think about the
option of not responding? Is

2010
02:03:50,670 --> 02:03:55,290
that a viable option? Well,
that's always an option as well.

2011
02:03:56,010 --> 02:03:59,460
The challenge here is that the
rhetoric has already put us on

2012
02:03:59,460 --> 02:04:00,840
the path towards

2013
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:05,700
in setting expectations towards
a response. So there's a certain

2014
02:04:05,700 --> 02:04:09,810
cost by now if now we were not
to do anything.

2015
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:16,530
Okay, this is a pet peeve of
mine. What is the cost? The cost

2016
02:04:16,530 --> 02:04:19,890
is the same thing we complain
about bitterly and claim we have

2017
02:04:19,890 --> 02:04:22,950
nothing to do with it. We're
Westerners so we don't worry

2018
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:26,640
about saving face. That's
something that Japanese do.

2019
02:04:26,730 --> 02:04:29,280
That's something that Chinese
do. That's something those

2020
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:33,750
stupid Asians all do. They have
to save face. They gotta save

2021
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:36,300
face. We do it more than
anybody.

2022
02:04:37,980 --> 02:04:41,820
Don't you think? Yeah. Why is
that political correctness at a

2023
02:04:41,820 --> 02:04:46,170
meta level? It's all say face.
Oh, oh, we said we're gonna do

2024
02:04:46,170 --> 02:04:51,630
something. We didn't do it. Oh
my god, we're screwed. It's just

2025
02:04:51,630 --> 02:04:55,050
part of saving face. This is
nonsense. He can do whatever he

2026
02:04:55,050 --> 02:04:57,510
wants to do one way or another
last one. I'd have another pet

2027
02:04:57,510 --> 02:04:59,970
peeve just to get it out of the
way, which is the third

2028
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,720
Clip with this. Would you listen
carefully to this and you can

2029
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:06,090
figure out what I'm gonna bitch
about curtail this kind of

2030
02:05:06,090 --> 02:05:09,960
behavior? Is your sense that we
can stop Assad from using

2031
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,330
chemical weapons? I mean, he has
done this dozens of times in

2032
02:05:12,330 --> 02:05:12,870
Syria.

2033
02:05:16,289 --> 02:05:20,309
Yeah, you mean stating
falsehoods, this fact stating

2034
02:05:20,309 --> 02:05:22,889
falsehoods as fact, but in this
case, he's gotten out of

2035
02:05:22,889 --> 02:05:27,719
control. He says dozens of times
dozens, which is plural for a

2036
02:05:27,719 --> 02:05:32,399
dozen 24. Minimum at least, it
means at least 24 times.

2037
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:39,300
It means 24 times now this is a
this is this is an ethical issue

2038
02:05:39,330 --> 02:05:43,590
as a journal? I think so. Yeah.
I think it's a huge the ethical

2039
02:05:43,590 --> 02:05:47,340
issue cannot say somebody did
something dozens of times, you

2040
02:05:47,340 --> 02:05:52,410
know, it dozens means dozens
means minimum of 24. Because

2041
02:05:52,410 --> 02:05:55,950
plural does it has to be two
dozen, at least, to be dozens.

2042
02:05:56,070 --> 02:06:01,290
Yes. So he said, he said 24 or
more times, Assad has dropped

2043
02:06:01,290 --> 02:06:04,500
chemical weapons on his own
people really? Well, I want to

2044
02:06:04,500 --> 02:06:08,130
see the documentation for that.
And what is he saying something

2045
02:06:08,130 --> 02:06:11,340
like that? He could have said
he's done it before, which is

2046
02:06:11,370 --> 02:06:17,340
dubious. But he didn't say that.
He said dozens of times. This is

2047
02:06:17,340 --> 02:06:19,740
the News Hour, there's supposed
to be the highest of the of the

2048
02:06:19,740 --> 02:06:25,080
high the the hottie of the hot
AI, is what he said, I would

2049
02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:28,770
hate to see you in the newsroom.
Oh, I'd be bitching and moaning.

2050
02:06:30,060 --> 02:06:33,600
You'd be good. But you're too
expensive. Too expensive.

2051
02:06:34,830 --> 02:06:38,700
Too expensive. We live to two
longer clips. And the

2052
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:43,620
Okay, this is it really is like
three minutes. But I feel it's

2053
02:06:43,620 --> 02:06:48,090
worth it. Just to get a little
sense of we're not the only the

2054
02:06:48,090 --> 02:06:50,610
only ones who are crazy and
think different about what's

2055
02:06:50,610 --> 02:06:52,710
going on. And I have people who
are texting me and they're

2056
02:06:52,710 --> 02:06:55,920
afraid, like holy crap, you know
what's gonna go on what's

2057
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:58,290
happening? What's going on?
We're worried or kids who are

2058
02:06:58,290 --> 02:07:01,080
worried. This is the former
ambassador, the former UK

2059
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:05,820
Ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford.
And he's on BBC Scotland. And

2060
02:07:05,850 --> 02:07:08,640
the whole thing is really quite
good. But that's just you know,

2061
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:11,490
seven or eight minutes, I had to
make choices Kill your darlings.

2062
02:07:11,490 --> 02:07:16,200
It's how it works. And he's
having none of this. And of

2063
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:18,960
course, the BBC guy really
doesn't you know, he's just

2064
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,570
doesn't understand his story.
And he's going to explain the

2065
02:07:21,570 --> 02:07:24,750
White Helmets to us, he's going
to really go down the list worst

2066
02:07:24,750 --> 02:07:30,630
case is that Trump does launch
off with some very unwise,

2067
02:07:30,930 --> 02:07:36,090
multiple attacks on Syria. And
given that Russian forces are

2068
02:07:36,090 --> 02:07:40,290
deeply embedded with Syrian
forces, in particular air

2069
02:07:40,290 --> 02:07:44,520
defense, it's highly likely that
causes Russian soldiers will be

2070
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:48,960
killed. If anyone thinks that
Russia will take that just lying

2071
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,810
down. I think they need to think
again.

2072
02:07:53,250 --> 02:07:58,110
Russian planes in the last 12
hours have been bothering us

2073
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,860
destroyers in the eastern
Mediterranean. Indeed, it's not

2074
02:08:01,860 --> 02:08:05,880
just the the US president,
though, who's appalled by what

2075
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:08,850
they've seen in terms of these
pictures coming from Duma. We've

2076
02:08:08,850 --> 02:08:13,230
had condemnation from President
Macron, likewise, from Prime

2077
02:08:13,230 --> 02:08:17,040
Minister Theresa May to if it
isn't the sort of military

2078
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:20,610
action that you've just outlined
there, what should be the

2079
02:08:20,610 --> 02:08:24,780
response to this use of chemical
weapons if it's approved?

2080
02:08:25,950 --> 02:08:29,610
The correct response is
obviously and I think the child

2081
02:08:29,610 --> 02:08:34,920
could see this to get inspectors
onto the alleged site of the

2082
02:08:34,980 --> 02:08:39,540
alleged offences. And if it's
from our Vanport, because, of

2083
02:08:39,540 --> 02:08:42,720
course, we know that Assad has
formed on this, we've had

2084
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:46,260
investigations previously, and
there has been fairly conclusive

2085
02:08:46,260 --> 02:08:48,330
proof that chemical agents have
been used.

2086
02:08:49,470 --> 02:08:53,130
I don't think that Assad is in
the least worried that the

2087
02:08:53,130 --> 02:08:56,520
inspectors would find out his
guilt because he's probably not

2088
02:08:56,520 --> 02:09:00,630
guilty, at least on this
occasion. I mean, we have to

2089
02:09:00,630 --> 02:09:05,070
engage our brains as well as our
emotions here, not be stampeded

2090
02:09:05,070 --> 02:09:09,870
by those videos, which are
described as being unverified

2091
02:09:09,930 --> 02:09:14,700
but which by dint of being
repeated over and over and over

2092
02:09:14,730 --> 02:09:19,140
again, come to acquire a
spurious credibility, we have to

2093
02:09:19,140 --> 02:09:23,160
ask ourselves, what are the
sources of the information on

2094
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:27,690
which we're in the stampede
toward their twofold? And I'm

2095
02:09:27,690 --> 02:09:30,450
sorry, but the media falling
down on the job in in

2096
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:34,830
investigating, that's the
sources, the Syrian American

2097
02:09:34,830 --> 02:09:40,200
Medical Society, which is a pro
Islamist propaganda outfit based

2098
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,210
in the United States. So using
these

2099
02:09:43,230 --> 02:09:45,390
using these pictures have been
staged. Are you saying that

2100
02:09:45,390 --> 02:09:48,420
people haven't died yet? People
haven't been? Yes, yes.

2101
02:09:48,750 --> 02:09:53,130
Probability. The incidents have
been staged. Come on, we know

2102
02:09:53,130 --> 02:09:59,490
how easy it is to fake images
for the internet. Look at the

2103
02:09:59,490 --> 02:09:59,970
images

2104
02:10:00,359 --> 02:10:05,729
Anybody could stage those. And
then the second source is

2105
02:10:05,729 --> 02:10:10,049
supposed to be so called first
responders. Now the first

2106
02:10:10,049 --> 02:10:11,339
response, yeah.

2107
02:10:12,809 --> 02:10:16,109
The guy stepped all over the guy
when he said and he talked about

2108
02:10:16,109 --> 02:10:17,129
that civility that

2109
02:10:18,420 --> 02:10:21,480
Islamist group. Yes. I don't
know if he can back it up to

2110
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:26,640
that. Yeah, I think he says it's
financed by the CIA. Yeah. Guys

2111
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:30,150
tried to step right on that
line. It was very hard to hear

2112
02:10:30,180 --> 02:10:34,800
can Medical Society, which who
the pro Islamist propaganda

2113
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,900
outfit based in the United
States

2114
02:10:39,330 --> 02:10:43,050
should have been state? I know,
but this is welcome to journaux

2115
02:10:43,050 --> 02:10:44,040
2018.

2116
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:49,350
He says it right there financed
by CSI. You said and that's that

2117
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:53,700
would be a jumping off point.
But instead this idiot, that's

2118
02:10:53,790 --> 02:10:58,260
that is interviewing him is all
flat flustered about something

2119
02:10:58,260 --> 02:11:00,540
else. He's not even listening,
apparently, because he's

2120
02:11:00,570 --> 02:11:04,080
something early are concerned
him. Yeah. He had to bring up in

2121
02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:07,380
the middle of this step on the
CIA line, tinfoil hat that says

2122
02:11:07,410 --> 02:11:10,740
he was like, Oh, you're just
talking conspiracy theory stuff.

2123
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:15,060
Is it? Mr. UK ambassador, who do
you think you are? HDX you're

2124
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:18,750
saying that people haven't died?
Yes. Yes. Yes. In all

2125
02:11:18,750 --> 02:11:23,100
probability, the incidents have
been staged. Come on, we know

2126
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:29,460
how easy it is to fake images
for the internet. Look at the

2127
02:11:29,460 --> 02:11:33,960
images. Anybody could stage
those. And then the second

2128
02:11:34,290 --> 02:11:39,480
source is supposed to be so
called first responders who are

2129
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:42,720
the first responders in this
case, they are the White

2130
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:48,480
Helmets, which is another pro
Islamist jihadi propaganda

2131
02:11:48,510 --> 02:11:50,340
outfit. Who owns this

2132
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:52,140
display.

2133
02:11:53,250 --> 02:11:56,850
Let me finish please let me
finish this important point. The

2134
02:11:56,850 --> 02:12:00,690
witnesses to these terrible
events are people who themselves

2135
02:12:00,690 --> 02:12:05,370
were involved in beheadings,
literally picking up the body

2136
02:12:05,370 --> 02:12:05,970
parts and

2137
02:12:07,230 --> 02:12:12,120
to give credence to testimony
from these alleged first

2138
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:13,080
responders. But

2139
02:12:16,050 --> 02:12:17,430
Assad's reputation was already

2140
02:12:19,860 --> 02:12:22,110
I'm trying to ask your question
to prove the point of why

2141
02:12:22,110 --> 02:12:26,820
you're, you don't allow the BBC
does not allow questions of

2142
02:12:26,820 --> 02:12:29,850
important detail to be
addressed. We have a short

2143
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:32,880
period of time to prove what
you're saying the advertisers is

2144
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:37,440
that surely that Assad's
reputation is already dented?

2145
02:12:37,620 --> 02:12:41,010
What would be in the interest of
these people to stage these

2146
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:46,110
events? Is that not obvious? A
child can see that the intention

2147
02:12:46,110 --> 02:12:51,390
was to produce the hysteria and
now the military action that we

2148
02:12:51,390 --> 02:12:55,740
are on the point of taking,
risking our own safety. What the

2149
02:12:55,740 --> 02:13:00,810
jehadi Is have done is jerk our
leash. And frankly, for one, I

2150
02:13:00,810 --> 02:13:04,410
think it's pretty disgusting
that we are allowing ourselves

2151
02:13:04,710 --> 02:13:09,960
to have our own leash jerked by
the Islamist fanatics. This is

2152
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:13,710
what's going on and ask
yourself, how does it how has it

2153
02:13:13,710 --> 02:13:17,730
prophesied? As said, please
engage with your brain tested

2154
02:13:17,730 --> 02:13:22,290
the Queensgate your brand's
asset benefited from all this

2155
02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:28,350
mayhem? In fact, it's rebounded
against him. Why would he do

2156
02:13:28,350 --> 02:13:32,820
such a thing when he was already
winning? The battle for Eastern

2157
02:13:32,820 --> 02:13:36,840
Ghouta was virtually over? Why
would he choose this moment to

2158
02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:41,550
do the one thing that was
guaranteed to pluck defeat for

2159
02:13:41,550 --> 02:13:43,590
him from the jaws of victory?

2160
02:13:44,850 --> 02:13:45,930
Thank you very much for joining
us.

2161
02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:51,030
I'm a British ambassador at the
time is 17 minutes. That's right

2162
02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:54,480
time and weather on the eights
here on the beep Yeah, cut them

2163
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:58,200
off. Gotta get to whether or not
they're gonna get to traffic

2164
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:00,420
time and traffic temper traffic
on the eights

2165
02:14:03,450 --> 02:14:09,270
and what the M ones clogged?
Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah, avoid hot

2166
02:14:09,270 --> 02:14:15,810
tubs Peter Ford. Small aviation
don't canoe on any water in

2167
02:14:15,810 --> 02:14:17,010
Washington DC.

2168
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:20,610
Yeah, don't hang out with
Hillary.

2169
02:14:22,230 --> 02:14:24,720
Though maybe not in this case.
That was a good clip. I'll give

2170
02:14:24,720 --> 02:14:27,330
you a clip of the day for that
fine. Oh, thank you. That's

2171
02:14:29,010 --> 02:14:33,990
clear. By producers producers
baby producers we all somebody

2172
02:14:34,020 --> 02:14:38,040
somebody like that. Well, that's
a very it's an enlightening clip

2173
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:42,660
that you think that our news
people would even kind of go on

2174
02:14:42,660 --> 02:14:45,630
it they pick up on everybody
out? No, they're all Yeah, yeah,

2175
02:14:45,630 --> 02:14:49,230
yeah. And let's bomb Iran Iran
while we're at it, because

2176
02:14:49,230 --> 02:14:52,470
you're gonna go back to their
nukes. So let's just bomb

2177
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:56,850
people. That mean the kind of
reaction you get. The Democrats

2178
02:14:56,850 --> 02:15:00,000
are all in and the Republicans
are all in and let's all

2179
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,330
I'll just get this bombed them
because they're all on the

2180
02:15:03,330 --> 02:15:07,080
second on the teat of Big Oil.
They're all second on the big

2181
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:11,670
military. Yep, it's a twofer.
Yeah, it's a BOGO kinds of

2182
02:15:11,670 --> 02:15:15,690
bonuses. So what if? What if
World War Three breaks out?

2183
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:19,590
Benny's and mine it I got a
place in the Bahamas. Let's go

2184
02:15:19,740 --> 02:15:24,510
to NPR very surprising. And
again, one of our producers

2185
02:15:24,690 --> 02:15:27,030
actually did a couple of clips
for this. But I'm just going to

2186
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:32,370
play. Think to what, what are
the Syrians thinking? And what

2187
02:15:32,370 --> 02:15:36,360
is life like in Damascus? Well,
what I have millennials in my

2188
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:39,570
life who are, you know, being
frightened by this? Like, Oh,

2189
02:15:39,570 --> 02:15:42,300
hold on what's going on? It
works. You know, this stuff

2190
02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:47,250
really does work, especially on
younger people, then NPR took to

2191
02:15:47,250 --> 02:15:50,640
the ground. So what is your
response to the saber rattling

2192
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:51,720
from Washington right now?

2193
02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:57,330
Okay, actually, I'm one of many
people here in Syria, especially

2194
02:15:57,330 --> 02:15:59,910
in Damascus. I can talk about
Damascus, because it's my city

2195
02:15:59,910 --> 02:16:04,350
where I live. In general life is
quite normal today. children

2196
02:16:04,350 --> 02:16:07,620
went to school, people went to
work just like any other normal

2197
02:16:07,620 --> 02:16:11,370
day, I went to my work also, I
went to the gym. Very, very

2198
02:16:11,370 --> 02:16:14,940
normal day. For the spin class.
People are just talking about

2199
02:16:14,940 --> 02:16:17,490
it. They are making a lot of fun
of the whole thing. They are

2200
02:16:17,490 --> 02:16:22,080
cracking jokes all the time.
Some people were saying, yes, a

2201
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:27,090
lot of jokes about it. Be
honest. Okay, like Mr. Trump

2202
02:16:27,090 --> 02:16:30,690
said that the missiles are going
to be smart. So people are

2203
02:16:30,690 --> 02:16:33,390
saying, Oh, if their missiles
are going to be as smart as

2204
02:16:33,390 --> 02:16:37,890
Donald Trump, then the whole
world must be worried. And many,

2205
02:16:37,890 --> 02:16:40,500
many other talks like Okay,
let's get ready. Today, we will

2206
02:16:40,500 --> 02:16:44,430
prepare our popcorn and sit on
the roof and watch the missiles

2207
02:16:44,430 --> 02:16:47,610
coming. Some people are taking
it a little bit seriously by

2208
02:16:47,610 --> 02:16:51,690
starting to keep extra food at
home, especially bread and rice,

2209
02:16:51,690 --> 02:16:54,780
which is quite normal at such
kind of situations. Some people

2210
02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:58,650
get a little bit worried. Others
are just to living a normal

2211
02:16:58,650 --> 02:17:01,470
life. I gotta say I'm a little
surprised to hear that because

2212
02:17:01,470 --> 02:17:03,960
we see reports today that some
commercial airlines have

2213
02:17:03,960 --> 02:17:07,680
rerouted their flights away from
Syrian airspace worried about

2214
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:09,690
these threats coming from
Washington and

2215
02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:14,850
that hasn't put people in
Damascus on edge? No, not at

2216
02:17:14,850 --> 02:17:18,390
all. Not in Damascus. Even in
other gov. It's like I have

2217
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:22,080
colleagues from work. We have
different offices all around

2218
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:25,110
Syria, and they are all cracking
jokes on Facebook. Have you

2219
02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:28,440
heard about not just cracking
jokes or cracking jokes on

2220
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:31,140
Facebook? That's That's how much
we're laughing about you nut

2221
02:17:31,140 --> 02:17:35,670
jobs there and Mirka Damascus
say they support the idea of

2222
02:17:35,700 --> 02:17:39,420
some kind of attack or
retaliate. Surely, despite that

2223
02:17:39,420 --> 02:17:42,270
kind of sense of humor that we
are having is that the sarcasm,

2224
02:17:42,540 --> 02:17:46,290
people are quite angry, very
upset. Of course, we totally

2225
02:17:46,290 --> 02:17:48,360
differentiate between American
people and the American

2226
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:51,510
administration. I have to make
this very clear.

2227
02:17:54,780 --> 02:17:57,540
My goodness, well, if you
remember when this whole thing

2228
02:17:57,540 --> 02:18:02,130
started, you early in our show,
like I remember discussing this

2229
02:18:02,130 --> 02:18:06,060
eight years ago, there were all
these reports of the normality

2230
02:18:06,060 --> 02:18:09,570
in Damascus, even people who
were communicating with us.

2231
02:18:10,260 --> 02:18:12,720
Yeah, and they were just I don't
know what you're talking about,

2232
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:16,920
you know, this whole thing still
reminds me of the trumped up. It

2233
02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:21,120
was Guatemala or one of these
places where the CIA had

2234
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:24,390
created, gotten a hold of the
media. And they created this

2235
02:18:24,390 --> 02:18:27,390
idea that this huge army was
coming into town.

2236
02:18:28,560 --> 02:18:31,140
We talked about this, we had
some clips from some old age and

2237
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:34,710
discussing it and it worked so
well. They're marching in the

2238
02:18:34,710 --> 02:18:37,890
town. And they had convinced
everybody that it was this huge

2239
02:18:37,890 --> 02:18:41,730
army led by this guy nobody ever
heard of who walked into an

2240
02:18:41,730 --> 02:18:45,090
empty tank because everyone
abandoned the Capitol. And they

2241
02:18:45,090 --> 02:18:47,730
just said, I'm now I'm running
the place.

2242
02:18:48,780 --> 02:18:53,310
Was that was that bad
information views to to control

2243
02:18:53,310 --> 02:18:58,710
the public? Yes. And, of course,
this could not last the MPR guy

2244
02:18:58,710 --> 02:19:03,270
would not stand for this too
long. I think this is about the

2245
02:19:03,300 --> 02:19:07,590
cheese refuting the chemical
weapon attack. Okay, a lot of

2246
02:19:07,590 --> 02:19:11,160
NGOs. local NGOs are working
near Duma now receiving those

2247
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:14,490
people who are split from East
Guta. And from whom they are

2248
02:19:14,490 --> 02:19:16,770
receiving those people who are
coming out some of them they

2249
02:19:16,770 --> 02:19:19,440
want to go to collective
shelters, others they want to go

2250
02:19:19,440 --> 02:19:22,830
to Jarabulus to be evacuated to
the northern part of Syria to go

2251
02:19:22,830 --> 02:19:27,060
to the jobless area. So people
who are standing there from

2252
02:19:27,060 --> 02:19:31,020
these local NGOs did not notice
any people who are coming out

2253
02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:34,440
with any symptoms of being
attacked by chemical weapons.

2254
02:19:34,980 --> 02:19:39,600
The Syrian Red Crescent and
International Red Cross are

2255
02:19:39,600 --> 02:19:42,180
there and the Syrian Red
Crescent is a very reputable

2256
02:19:42,180 --> 02:19:45,900
organization and nongovernmental
organization here in Syria. And

2257
02:19:45,930 --> 02:19:49,050
the Syrian Red Crescent is one
of the partners of the United

2258
02:19:49,050 --> 02:19:54,060
Nations also. So the senior Red
Crescent confirmed that there

2259
02:19:54,060 --> 02:19:57,390
are no people who are coming out
with any symptoms of being

2260
02:19:57,420 --> 02:20:00,000
attacked by chemical weapons.
And have you seen

2261
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,020
In the videos, have you seen
those colors and what helmets

2262
02:20:04,350 --> 02:20:08,490
standing there, no masks, no
suits, etc. And they are just

2263
02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:12,600
spray Rosenstein other. I've
also seen overwhelming video

2264
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:16,500
evidence of people trying very
hard to breathe, people not

2265
02:20:16,500 --> 02:20:17,070
moving

2266
02:20:18,900 --> 02:20:22,530
videos that were like leaked
from the White Helmets, etc,

2267
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:25,170
showing how they are video
grabbing these kinds of things

2268
02:20:25,170 --> 02:20:28,860
and they are just acting. How do
you how do you handle this as an

2269
02:20:28,860 --> 02:20:31,590
NPR guy? No, I'm not. I don't
really want to debate with you

2270
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:33,120
whether there was chemical
weapons or not. I

2271
02:20:34,770 --> 02:20:39,480
don't want to debate with you.
Holy crap. That guy shouldn't be

2272
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:42,810
ashamed of themselves. I don't
want to I don't want to beat

2273
02:20:42,810 --> 02:20:44,970
that with you, man.

2274
02:20:46,470 --> 02:20:50,640
Oh, my God, this is what we have
to deal with. Yeah. I mean, I

2275
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:54,540
feel sorry for the public Did
you know has to. I mean, it's

2276
02:20:54,540 --> 02:20:58,530
like, they can't trust these
people. You cannot trust the

2277
02:20:58,530 --> 02:21:05,070
mainstream media. PBS, CBS, NBC,
ABC, New York Times Washington

2278
02:21:05,070 --> 02:21:09,390
Post all these guys. They're all
dumb shits.

2279
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:17,370
You go by, we'll wrap it up with
and this is also just kind of

2280
02:21:17,370 --> 02:21:20,700
showing that we're not if we're
crazy. If you think we're crazy.

2281
02:21:20,700 --> 02:21:23,730
You're listening to this. We're
not the only ones. Just so you

2282
02:21:23,730 --> 02:21:27,000
know, there's more of us. Here.
She's gonna wrap it up. Where do

2283
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:31,620
you place your hope for an end
to the violence in Syria. I hope

2284
02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:36,720
that just Russia and America
start to talk diplomatically and

2285
02:21:36,750 --> 02:21:39,240
catch up. Because this is a
problem now between America and

2286
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:41,700
Russia. It has nothing to do
with Syria. This time, the

2287
02:21:41,700 --> 02:21:45,420
United US administration is
accusing Russia, of using

2288
02:21:45,420 --> 02:21:48,600
chemical weapons. And we all
know the story about the Russian

2289
02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:51,720
spy, etc. And how things
escalated. So now it's just

2290
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:55,140
between US and Russia. It has
nothing to do with Sirius this

2291
02:21:55,140 --> 02:21:58,050
time. There you go. No, of
course not. It's about the dumb

2292
02:21:58,050 --> 02:22:01,470
pipelines. So it is about so
there's only two things you

2293
02:22:01,470 --> 02:22:06,420
know, I can't believe in it. An
NPR guy would do that. Yeah, I

2294
02:22:06,420 --> 02:22:08,970
knew you would be well, I'll
defend the videos. He's

2295
02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:13,110
bullcrap. And you You and I can
put these videos together that

2296
02:22:13,140 --> 02:22:15,450
you know look like something's
going on when nothing's going

2297
02:22:15,450 --> 02:22:18,420
on. Then you make some that, you
know, some, you affirm that as

2298
02:22:18,420 --> 02:22:21,300
well. This was taken here or
there. And these people are all

2299
02:22:21,300 --> 02:22:24,060
dead now. I mean, we've seen
this this was years ago when we

2300
02:22:24,060 --> 02:22:27,480
see these videos where the dead
person was breathing.

2301
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:31,860
Or it was the same dead person
over and over again. Yeah, I

2302
02:22:31,860 --> 02:22:34,500
mean that this has been debunked
so many times that you can't

2303
02:22:34,500 --> 02:22:38,790
trust these videos. At all.
They're not even worth. You

2304
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:41,370
shouldn't even be watching them.
But but they, but these guys

2305
02:22:41,370 --> 02:22:43,950
know that there's a bunch of
suckers out there. And so

2306
02:22:43,950 --> 02:22:48,090
they'll keep producing these
videos. And then to defend these

2307
02:22:48,090 --> 02:22:52,290
crappy videos with that. No,
there's no provenance. Oh,

2308
02:22:52,290 --> 02:22:54,870
sorry. No, no, no, I'm sorry
that fired by accident. I did

2309
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:58,380
not do that. No, no, seriously,
I was actually glad you were

2310
02:22:58,380 --> 02:23:01,260
talking because something froze
because of something I did. And

2311
02:23:01,290 --> 02:23:05,010
that was a total accident. Okay,
well, anyway, you get my point.

2312
02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:07,440
I totally get your point and
still frozen damage.

2313
02:23:09,930 --> 02:23:14,700
So I want you to talk it's
beyond me. What is all this

2314
02:23:14,700 --> 02:23:18,630
dimension B stuff is that
they've signed up for thinking

2315
02:23:18,630 --> 02:23:23,430
this way and they're not going
to even bother with trying I'm

2316
02:23:23,430 --> 02:23:25,830
going ahead with the you know
with the lip Joes so we know

2317
02:23:25,890 --> 02:23:29,520
Yeah, it's they don't even care
to listen to the any other side

2318
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:33,900
of any argument whatsoever. They
it's all set in stone. And there

2319
02:23:33,900 --> 02:23:37,830
was I forgot somebody sent us a
note. I know if I haven't been

2320
02:23:37,830 --> 02:23:40,890
reading today, but they said
that they were at the office and

2321
02:23:41,220 --> 02:23:45,540
and somebody says she believes
in the Washington Post. That was

2322
02:23:45,540 --> 02:23:48,090
one of our guests one of our
guys who sent it along he gave

2323
02:23:48,090 --> 02:23:51,840
given us a report from from the
US Oh yeah, it was it was a

2324
02:23:51,870 --> 02:23:55,260
beautiful report. George very
nice report and he says that

2325
02:23:55,260 --> 02:23:59,490
somebody in the offices they
believe in the Washington Post

2326
02:23:59,910 --> 02:24:02,100
as a grant I thought it was from
New York. I thought it was from

2327
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:05,100
New York. No, I was New York
you're right now London after

2328
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:07,830
Gwen Eiffel quit she had to be
one of the layers she was one of

2329
02:24:07,830 --> 02:24:12,450
the one of the editors one we
laughed about the hardest turned

2330
02:24:12,450 --> 02:24:17,190
out to be the best yeah and when
she left left left she died she

2331
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:20,790
left like she left all right
this stuff is creeping in a guy

2332
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:23,700
saying dozens oh yeah sir
ordered dozens or they're just

2333
02:24:23,700 --> 02:24:26,190
bombing left to right these guys
gas and everybody when you turn

2334
02:24:26,190 --> 02:24:27,480
around to gas and somebody

2335
02:24:29,580 --> 02:24:30,960
I love how you hate that

2336
02:24:34,740 --> 02:24:39,840
you're really your your old
friend guy that oh great guy,

2337
02:24:39,870 --> 02:24:45,690
you know like a visor. I do
green green see through visor.

2338
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:53,160
But sadly you know your your lib
Joe buddies. They they just gone

2339
02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:55,590
completely off the reservation.
Do you ever remind them of their

2340
02:24:56,100 --> 02:24:59,550
what is the Hippocratic oath for
journalists for journalists?

2341
02:24:59,550 --> 02:25:00,000
What

2342
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,220
As the Hippocratic Oath none
really.

2343
02:25:03,419 --> 02:25:08,309
I used to remind them that
they're nuts. And recently told

2344
02:25:08,309 --> 02:25:12,389
me they were both unhinged. And
one of us goes hmm

2345
02:25:14,009 --> 02:25:15,269
know what I'm talking about.

2346
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:20,280
I'm gonna show my school by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2347
02:25:20,280 --> 02:25:22,980
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2348
02:25:30,390 --> 02:25:33,840
Yeah, a few people thank for
show 1020 for the bite show.

2349
02:25:34,410 --> 02:25:41,820
Richard MC kutchan $169.26 Sir
Mac digital night of mead

2350
02:25:41,820 --> 02:25:42,450
actually.

2351
02:25:45,300 --> 02:25:47,910
He was pleased to have Dr.
Pepper available. I guess he's

2352
02:25:47,910 --> 02:25:50,790
being knighted. Yeah, he's gonna
be knighted. Okay, we do have

2353
02:25:50,790 --> 02:25:52,590
one so just Dr. Pepper.

2354
02:25:53,790 --> 02:25:56,160
We're just well yeah, so you mix
it with something else? Yeah,

2355
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:58,410
but what do you mix it with? I
mean, that's that's not okay.

2356
02:25:58,410 --> 02:26:00,870
For the roundtable. It's a
little bit note below our

2357
02:26:00,870 --> 02:26:04,800
standards. But adding it
ourselves adding something

2358
02:26:04,800 --> 02:26:09,690
cayenne. Okay, Dr. Kn and Dr.
Pepper and cayenne and dog get

2359
02:26:09,690 --> 02:26:14,220
his joke. Ah, no, I don't like
it. No, it's got to be something

2360
02:26:14,430 --> 02:26:18,450
either Dr. Pepper in some kind
of ROM or the

2361
02:26:19,470 --> 02:26:23,040
visit, you know, I mean, here's
some other tips on arming JACC

2362
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:27,570
and Dr. Pepper, which does taste
good together. But the way it's

2363
02:26:27,570 --> 02:26:30,360
supposed to go is we have
bourbon and bong rips cold brew

2364
02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:35,430
coffee and cannabis boobs and
stinky tofu. Onion rings and ice

2365
02:26:35,430 --> 02:26:38,100
cream English muffins with
butter honey Captain Morgan's

2366
02:26:38,100 --> 02:26:40,500
and women with questionable
reputation I mean yeah,

2367
02:26:40,530 --> 02:26:44,010
something a little more. Yeah,
do Oh yeah. Good duo.

2368
02:26:47,250 --> 02:26:51,330
Dr. Pepper a Dr. Pepper a hand
job. And job.

2369
02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:55,650
No. Dr. Pepper and prunes. How
about that?

2370
02:26:56,700 --> 02:27:01,980
Okay, hand job, John. Get your
mind out of the gutter. That was

2371
02:27:01,980 --> 02:27:07,830
the name this is a true story.
That was the name that Acer was

2372
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:13,530
going to give their small pocket
computer and job yeah, this was

2373
02:27:13,590 --> 02:27:15,960
a story told me by the CEO like
okay.

2374
02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:22,080
cover stories. Wait a minute. 10
years, honey 10 years you've

2375
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:23,250
never told me this.

2376
02:27:24,690 --> 02:27:29,280
So here I'm having lunch with
the guys American CEO of Acer.

2377
02:27:30,060 --> 02:27:34,110
And he tells me the story that
they were going to nacelles he's

2378
02:27:34,110 --> 02:27:37,080
got to be keep an eye on these
guys as they get their nuts. But

2379
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:39,480
he says they were and he tells
me they're going to name their

2380
02:27:39,480 --> 02:27:42,450
little they're just during the
area era of the castle pedia and

2381
02:27:42,450 --> 02:27:45,210
these kinds of pocket computers
and

2382
02:27:46,740 --> 02:27:51,210
big just the early days of palm
kind of thing. And, and Paul the

2383
02:27:51,210 --> 02:27:55,260
computer of course has a
implication is you use your palm

2384
02:27:55,260 --> 02:27:58,200
to hold it. So they were going
to name this little computer the

2385
02:27:58,200 --> 02:27:59,310
hand job.

2386
02:28:00,900 --> 02:28:04,920
And he had to put the kibosh on
because nobody, I guess knew

2387
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:06,990
what that meant. In Taiwan.

2388
02:28:08,040 --> 02:28:11,250
Which is ironic if you think
about those barbershops.

2389
02:28:12,270 --> 02:28:16,890
So oh, so he was we're yakking
away he tells me this other

2390
02:28:16,890 --> 02:28:20,130
story. And then he was fired
shortly after this.

2391
02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:25,170
tells me this story. Not for the
hand job thing he that he saved

2392
02:28:25,170 --> 02:28:27,600
the company there that would
have been embarrassing. But he

2393
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:28,650
says that

2394
02:28:29,790 --> 02:28:33,870
this is when Stan she was
running Acer and, and his wife

2395
02:28:33,870 --> 02:28:38,400
was notorious for kind of really
running Acer even though luckily

2396
02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:40,830
I get to sit at a table with him
and his wife one time his wife

2397
02:28:40,830 --> 02:28:44,400
was one of this really sweet,
nice lady. But everyone hated

2398
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:47,790
her because apparently she was
always meddling. Oh, which is

2399
02:28:47,790 --> 02:28:51,360
not unusual and Chinese
companies. So everyone he would

2400
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:55,530
fly over to Taiwan to do
business. And he'd always take a

2401
02:28:55,530 --> 02:28:57,840
business class or some flight

2402
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:04,560
to deck always was never the
cheapest flight. And she would

2403
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:07,830
have somehow had copies of the
San Francisco Chronicle that

2404
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:12,240
held these cheap flights to
Taiwan for 200 bucks. You know

2405
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:16,740
on correct grammar. I'm in
airlines who times charters and

2406
02:29:16,740 --> 02:29:22,080
she would send to him. She sent
him a page from the Chronicle

2407
02:29:22,080 --> 02:29:26,550
with all these cheap flights
circled with a note, why aren't

2408
02:29:26,550 --> 02:29:28,200
you taking these flights?

2409
02:29:31,260 --> 02:29:35,610
No, he took another page from
the paper which had all these

2410
02:29:35,610 --> 02:29:41,550
incredibly cheap junk computers
for 100 bucks or 200 bucks. So

2411
02:29:41,550 --> 02:29:45,390
this is crappy, was made
locally. And so he took and

2412
02:29:45,390 --> 02:29:49,020
circled all these cheap
computers, attach it to her note

2413
02:29:49,020 --> 02:29:53,670
and said because we don't sell
our computers for this price.

2414
02:29:53,730 --> 02:29:59,520
Wow. If you donated today, I
think you certainly received

2415
02:29:59,520 --> 02:29:59,970
your value

2416
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,320
The price of admission right
there. Great story. Within a

2417
02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:07,110
couple of months he was gone.
I'm changing it to Dr. Pepper

2418
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:10,980
and a quick handy. I think that
that is more appropriate. Okay.

2419
02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:14,580
Anyway, that's why that's what I
was talking about. I was talking

2420
02:30:14,580 --> 02:30:16,830
about the little Acer computer
was talking about I know what

2421
02:30:16,830 --> 02:30:19,410
you are thinking but as she's
still running the company, even

2422
02:30:19,410 --> 02:30:23,010
though he only she retired some
years ago and she's gone do it

2423
02:30:23,010 --> 02:30:25,290
with him and so know that
company is now run by

2424
02:30:25,950 --> 02:30:29,640
professionals I tell aren't
doing as well, the way I see.

2425
02:30:29,670 --> 02:30:32,550
Well, here's here's my thought
on it. Once we get our two way

2426
02:30:32,550 --> 02:30:35,100
pager network up and running,
we're going to crowdsource a

2427
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:37,380
device and we're going to call
it the hand job.

2428
02:30:41,370 --> 02:30:42,900
We could all right.

2429
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:47,370
Sir uncle de vie, not.

2430
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:51,570
For night of the one armed
bandits in Henderson, Nevada

2431
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:56,610
comes in, he has a did send us a
note, which if I can find my

2432
02:30:56,610 --> 02:31:00,750
glasses I can read. And I will
read it because he's a knight.

2433
02:31:01,770 --> 02:31:04,710
I'm not going to read the whole
thing that's too long. You guys

2434
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:07,950
are the George Carlin of the
small batch podcast, dissecting

2435
02:31:07,950 --> 02:31:10,830
how the media and politicians
use words to confuse and profit

2436
02:31:10,830 --> 02:31:14,820
off of slaves. As a Friday I'm
declaring my freedom from being

2437
02:31:14,820 --> 02:31:19,320
a wage slave by retiring from my
job in the gaming industry to a

2438
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:21,720
life of travel, but this is a
shame because he was working for

2439
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:24,450
them these big gaming companies
that make the slot machine so

2440
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:27,180
he's gonna do some reading and
writing doing whatever the hell

2441
02:31:27,180 --> 02:31:30,150
I want and listening to the best
podcasts and universities like

2442
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:30,870
he made out.

2443
02:31:32,070 --> 02:31:35,610
Somebody made out as a result I
request three things first and

2444
02:31:35,610 --> 02:31:38,910
retirement karma to keep me from
mac and cheese lifestyle second

2445
02:31:38,940 --> 02:31:42,720
being now well established in my
60s with my need for comfy shoes

2446
02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:47,580
and clothes. That Trump style a
little title change to serve

2447
02:31:47,610 --> 02:31:51,000
Uncle Dave Knight of the retired
old farts. Okay, we'll give them

2448
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:55,170
a title change Nice. Hold on,
because I didn't have that on

2449
02:31:55,170 --> 02:31:59,010
the spray wouldn't because this
in this note Ah, okay. Of course

2450
02:31:59,010 --> 02:32:00,480
not. Nailed in.

2451
02:32:02,010 --> 02:32:06,030
Sir Uncle Dave. Retired old
farts Okay, and can you please

2452
02:32:06,090 --> 02:32:08,730
play the theorem in jingle
followed by a goat scream in

2453
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:11,550
honor of the theorem and I built
around 50 years ago as my first

2454
02:32:11,550 --> 02:32:12,660
electronics project

2455
02:32:25,710 --> 02:32:26,490
you you've got

2456
02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:28,590
karma.

2457
02:32:29,730 --> 02:32:32,520
Okay, so onward. Wait, give it a
go. I need to get a good guy.

2458
02:32:32,550 --> 02:32:36,840
Uncle Dave Knight of the uncle
sir Uncle Dave Knight of the old

2459
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:37,710
farts.

2460
02:32:39,150 --> 02:32:39,750
Okay.

2461
02:32:41,250 --> 02:32:44,250
old farts Oh, no, the retired
old farts sorry.

2462
02:32:45,960 --> 02:32:50,490
Knight of the retired old farts
Nice. He's their leader.

2463
02:32:51,720 --> 02:32:52,980
Russell Gurken

2464
02:32:55,110 --> 02:32:57,690
I just had a visual of that
bunch of dudes.

2465
02:33:01,020 --> 02:33:05,940
Chemtrails around $102.40 Nice
karma. Put that at the end for

2466
02:33:05,940 --> 02:33:12,600
you. Yep. Brian peace pesky pie
paste. Paste. And saline are

2467
02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:17,430
solving Michigan 102 For this
though. There's our bike guys

2468
02:33:17,790 --> 02:33:21,810
down Oh 240 was nicely okay by
the I don't think he's on the

2469
02:33:21,810 --> 02:33:24,360
birthday list. pesky?

2470
02:33:25,620 --> 02:33:30,570
Yeah, yeah is 51 April 11. Yep.
Sir woody of the Dakotas in

2471
02:33:30,570 --> 02:33:37,470
Sioux Falls South Dakota. 102 40
Christians Schlatter in winter

2472
02:33:37,470 --> 02:33:38,580
Seguin tall

2473
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:42,090
Switzerland.

2474
02:33:44,070 --> 02:33:47,760
The night the newsletter is just
priceless and zaqy looks a lot

2475
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:49,710
of funny stuff in that
newsletter. It was a great

2476
02:33:49,710 --> 02:33:53,340
newsletter. I liked it. I loaded
it up with funny material. Yeah,

2477
02:33:53,370 --> 02:33:55,320
more great album covers.

2478
02:33:57,990 --> 02:34:03,000
That is such a hit. You are more
UI podcast marketing genius my

2479
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:06,810
friend I am that's me. People
don't realize it but this is

2480
02:34:06,840 --> 02:34:11,310
this is really this is really
what makes the the network swirl

2481
02:34:11,310 --> 02:34:15,780
was valued. Kevin McLaughlin and
Locust North Carolina 102 40.

2482
02:34:17,880 --> 02:34:22,260
Episode 32 squared Vikki. Oh,
he's a Vikon of Luna serve cat.

2483
02:34:22,290 --> 02:34:23,550
He's my count. Okay.

2484
02:34:24,750 --> 02:34:28,560
Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Sir
Patrick Coble, 1024 He couldn't

2485
02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:31,830
he couldn't resist. It's been
too long since his last donation

2486
02:34:32,250 --> 02:34:35,910
and maybe wants to come down to
Biloxi salmon Brown in west

2487
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:41,970
wind. Winfield, New York. And
that ends are one or 240 well

2488
02:34:41,970 --> 02:34:48,480
wishers on with Tim White. Oops.
Tim White that comes in with 100

2489
02:34:48,510 --> 02:34:55,710
Even Wayne Todd 100 from Mount
Pleasant, Michigan. A lot of

2490
02:34:55,710 --> 02:34:58,410
Michigan Ian's in here today are
digging have some names not

2491
02:34:58,410 --> 02:34:59,940
Michigan Tony and it's Michigan.

2492
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,250
Should some Michigan is Michigan
is shagging us? Shannon Shannon

2493
02:35:05,250 --> 02:35:11,610
Brame in Houston 9999 Chris
Bajio 73 7370 threes do you 73

2494
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:17,160
this script or Alex in Chicago,
Illinois 6666 He sent a note in

2495
02:35:17,160 --> 02:35:19,380
that for some reason I made a
note of it because there's

2496
02:35:19,380 --> 02:35:20,520
something funny about it.

2497
02:35:22,500 --> 02:35:26,370
Oh, no, he sent a bunch of jokes
and he wants me to try to slip

2498
02:35:26,370 --> 02:35:29,670
into the show. Oh, I will say
this.

2499
02:35:30,750 --> 02:35:33,840
About that we have a joke writer
we can use for this sort of

2500
02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:38,250
thing. Isn't that good? But I I
will see if I can get any of

2501
02:35:38,250 --> 02:35:41,580
these in. It's not going to be
easy. Is that good? Huh?

2502
02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:47,160
Our joke writer Marty Higgins is
Oh, right. He still writes for

2503
02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:51,600
you. And I wonder if I ask him
nicely. I'm gonna do one thing

2504
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:52,800
one of the scriptures jokes.

2505
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:59,010
Producer pointed out to me that
my growth here And Taro cards is

2506
02:35:59,010 --> 02:36:02,820
number 11, which means strength
and lust. And this was

2507
02:36:02,820 --> 02:36:07,230
convenient because when I read
the note, I was craving pickles

2508
02:36:07,230 --> 02:36:10,890
for some reason. So I went down
to the kitchen and opened up a

2509
02:36:10,890 --> 02:36:16,020
brand new jar of pickles. So
there it is strength and lust

2510
02:36:20,100 --> 02:36:22,860
All right. Yeah, that's what I
mean. Yeah.

2511
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:28,020
But we welcome him. I think I
think the delivery was pretty

2512
02:36:28,020 --> 02:36:30,660
off as a joke.

2513
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:35,010
Yeah, well, I would have I would
challenge you to I will send you

2514
02:36:35,010 --> 02:36:38,160
the next one. You can delimit
sea shore is already rolling

2515
02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:43,650
over in her grave aim. 17 scar
in Sacramento, California. 66

2516
02:36:43,860 --> 02:36:48,510
sir Steven McConnell 66 and
Cortland Ohio Kyle my man or mon

2517
02:36:48,750 --> 02:36:53,490
64 Parts Unknown Julie Kay Smith
in Coldwater, Michigan. She sent

2518
02:36:53,490 --> 02:36:54,390
a card in

2519
02:36:55,680 --> 02:37:00,270
she always says a card and she's
a card sender. And just Julie

2520
02:37:00,270 --> 02:37:04,830
shows it. Hopefully you notice
that my small boobs, which is

2521
02:37:04,830 --> 02:37:07,170
what her net donation was 606

2522
02:37:08,340 --> 02:37:11,310
she says hopefully by the way,
this gave me an idea. Hopefully

2523
02:37:11,310 --> 02:37:15,570
you'll say that my small boobs
aren't lopsided. My husband will

2524
02:37:15,570 --> 02:37:18,840
also get some job Carmi if I if
it worked for me in my last

2525
02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:21,720
donation so we'll put some for
him at the end of course, but I

2526
02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:25,920
was thinking as cuz she talks
about lopsided boobs with women

2527
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:30,600
always work once they're all I
mean, you can't be robot

2528
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:32,340
symmetry. It's yeah, but huge
boobs.

2529
02:37:33,390 --> 02:37:36,960
You know, but I'm thinking a
donation if somebody wants to do

2530
02:37:36,960 --> 02:37:41,160
this and it would it should be a
woman admitting it 8006

2531
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:51,420
You are you are a donation
genius. I am at oh six

2532
02:37:51,420 --> 02:37:56,190
Michigander is that is the name
Michigan, Michigan. He oh six

2533
02:37:56,220 --> 02:38:02,190
that is just a human boob human
boobs and we understand this and

2534
02:38:02,190 --> 02:38:06,420
we're okay with it. We've been
around not our first rodeo pair

2535
02:38:06,450 --> 02:38:07,890
Ingvarsson

2536
02:38:09,930 --> 02:38:14,700
from Sweden 5670 asa stay
unglued. Paul Webb and

2537
02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:19,560
Twickenham Middlesex UK 5555.
Amanda Ross at 5510 from Vernon

2538
02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:26,700
rock Ville, Connecticut, Aaron
Lambert 5433. And the next one

2539
02:38:26,700 --> 02:38:31,470
David Corbyn, who he's the he
sent us the massive pack wasn't

2540
02:38:31,470 --> 02:38:35,430
it the crazy stuff? Just he's
you know, you should publish

2541
02:38:35,430 --> 02:38:37,980
that as a giblet or something or
I don't know. I think I'm going

2542
02:38:37,980 --> 02:38:40,590
to talk to him about that. Yeah,
he can do about three of these

2543
02:38:40,590 --> 02:38:43,530
and stick them together. I think
that's what he is. Is that

2544
02:38:43,530 --> 02:38:46,350
something you put in the
newsletter or now? Well, I can

2545
02:38:46,350 --> 02:38:48,480
put in the newsletter is very
long. I mean, I liked it. I

2546
02:38:48,480 --> 02:38:50,850
would love to read it, but it's
a little too. Too long. It's

2547
02:38:50,850 --> 02:38:54,810
even even I but it's very good.
It's very good. Anyway, he came

2548
02:38:54,810 --> 02:38:58,740
in with $50.33 almost like it's
almost it reads a bit like a

2549
02:38:58,740 --> 02:39:03,120
movie treatment. It reads very
well. Yeah, it's very well

2550
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:05,790
written he should be alright it
hasn't this a write stuff

2551
02:39:05,790 --> 02:39:09,900
already. Why does it why does it
ring a bell with me? So he's a

2552
02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:14,940
he's in advertising. Oh, so the
Mac the copywriter? Yeah. No,

2553
02:39:14,940 --> 02:39:18,240
he's I think he says he's a he's
a dude named Ben who works in

2554
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:22,110
advertising. You know? Dude
named Ben dudes named Ben.

2555
02:39:22,110 --> 02:39:23,910
Right? More than writers.

2556
02:39:25,440 --> 02:39:28,650
A lot of them. Yeah, Drew mo
check ins l servito. Down the

2557
02:39:28,650 --> 02:39:30,900
street here from me. These are
all $50 donors name and

2558
02:39:30,900 --> 02:39:36,420
location. Robert Bruckner drew
mo chak, Joseph Barnes, who's in

2559
02:39:36,450 --> 02:39:39,420
Oakland, and should probably
consider coming to the meetup

2560
02:39:39,420 --> 02:39:43,260
that we're going to have
eventually. Dave from Atlanta,

2561
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:47,670
or do I miss somebody because
I'm skipping down the hall last

2562
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:51,510
second. You got Joseph Barnes.
Yeah, that's interesting. I'm

2563
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:53,640
getting the same skip. Ah.

2564
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:57,450
What is this? It's a hell

2565
02:39:58,470 --> 02:39:59,970
yeah. Emily's M

2566
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,230
Lenovo, okay, she's number
ended. Yeah. Okay. That makes

2567
02:40:04,230 --> 02:40:09,180
sense. Well, I see him but my
day from a day from Atlanta is

2568
02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:14,490
underneath her. So it's Joseph
Barnes and then it's Emily NOFO.

2569
02:40:14,850 --> 02:40:17,100
Can you read it? Or do you want
me there it is. I got it. Why

2570
02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:20,460
are we reading it? What else was
we read? 50 don't read it. Only

2571
02:40:20,460 --> 02:40:20,940
people.

2572
02:40:22,170 --> 02:40:26,460
But don't make a long note like
this. Yeah, no, no, it's too

2573
02:40:26,460 --> 02:40:28,590
bad. I mean, that's just the
deal. We're already running late

2574
02:40:28,590 --> 02:40:32,370
today. I mean, really? Dave from
Atlanta. 50. Robert and dead.

2575
02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:35,160
Emily. What was her last name?

2576
02:40:36,900 --> 02:40:41,370
Emily NOFO. I think she had a
call out of there would be, but

2577
02:40:41,370 --> 02:40:45,420
maybe not. Robert dakini in
Fairfax, Virginia has Jason

2578
02:40:45,420 --> 02:40:47,910
Zeiss learned once you read her
note, while I'm finishing my,

2579
02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:53,430
Jason's Eisler, Brett yo and
Catonsville, Maryland. Robert

2580
02:40:53,430 --> 02:40:57,390
Gardner in Parts Unknown. And
last is Kyle Meyer in Atlanta,

2581
02:40:57,390 --> 02:40:59,640
Georgia. Want to thank all these
folks are helping us out on show

2582
02:40:59,760 --> 02:41:01,230
1024 That might show

2583
02:41:02,730 --> 02:41:04,500
a show coming up on Sunday.

2584
02:41:06,120 --> 02:41:09,570
Let me see. It's very very long.
No but she's married. The

2585
02:41:09,570 --> 02:41:13,590
girlfriend of Colin Cunningham.
The Deaf dumb blind night. Sure

2586
02:41:13,590 --> 02:41:14,910
knows a mean Pin Ball.

2587
02:41:17,070 --> 02:41:21,330
Versus hot. Alright, I will read
this real real this. Yeah, I

2588
02:41:21,330 --> 02:41:24,870
mean, there's just a lot to
digest right there. Okay. Well,

2589
02:41:25,980 --> 02:41:30,450
thank you very much. And thank
you to our bike contributors and

2590
02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:35,130
everybody who came in under $50
That is usually for reasons of

2591
02:41:35,130 --> 02:41:38,280
anonymity but there's a lot of
subscriptions and thank you very

2592
02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:39,390
much for

2593
02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:44,520
valuing what we're doing I
haven't fun today if you haven't

2594
02:41:44,520 --> 02:41:48,120
fun think about us that way. You
haven't fun John. I'm having a

2595
02:41:48,120 --> 02:41:53,730
tough time of my life jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's go

2596
02:41:53,760 --> 02:41:54,630
for jobs.

2597
02:41:58,350 --> 02:41:58,950
Karma.

2598
02:42:07,980 --> 02:42:12,240
Your list for today Matthew.
Some are celebrates today. Happy

2599
02:42:12,240 --> 02:42:14,940
Birthday Michael Robin says
Happy Birthday to mark Beecham

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02:42:14,940 --> 02:42:17,790
of Melbourne. It'll be
celebrating his birthday

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02:42:17,790 --> 02:42:21,510
tomorrow. The day after on the
14th Patrick Davies celebrates

2602
02:42:21,750 --> 02:42:26,460
James Pires is Happy Birthday to
his son EJ will be 14 today. And

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02:42:26,460 --> 02:42:31,500
Ryan Peacekeeper 51 pies for
your PC 51 Turn that yesterday

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02:42:31,500 --> 02:42:34,500
we say Happy Birthday remember
to hear at the best podcast in

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02:42:34,500 --> 02:42:35,400
the universe.

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02:42:37,410 --> 02:42:41,220
And we've got a chance to chit
chatting

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02:42:46,650 --> 02:42:49,620
don't want to be a douche. And
we thank you very much sir Uncle

2608
02:42:49,620 --> 02:42:53,970
Dave, who now changes his title
to become sir Uncle Dave Knight

2609
02:42:54,000 --> 02:42:55,920
of the retired old farts

2610
02:42:57,510 --> 02:43:01,260
thank you for your courage, sir.
One nice thing to do, John so if

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02:43:01,350 --> 02:43:04,800
you go here's my here's my sore
right here. I see it.

2612
02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:10,050
More spiffy, but this one today.
Richard McCutcheon come on up.

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02:43:10,560 --> 02:43:14,400
Next to the lectern here and the
podium Thank you very much for

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02:43:15,060 --> 02:43:18,510
contributing to the no agenda,
showing them out of $1,000 that

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02:43:18,510 --> 02:43:21,390
places us squarely at the round
table with all of our Knights

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02:43:21,390 --> 02:43:23,460
and Dames and I'm very proud to
pronounce the K.

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02:43:24,540 --> 02:43:29,130
sumac, a digital knights of mead
and for you by request.

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02:43:30,210 --> 02:43:34,020
We have Dr. Pepper and a quick
handy boobs and stinky tofu cold

2619
02:43:34,020 --> 02:43:37,080
brew coffee and cannabis. We've
got bourbon and bong rips,

2620
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:40,320
trophies and tire smoke on your
means. And rings and ice cream.

2621
02:43:40,320 --> 02:43:42,930
We've got harlots and how though
we got cowgirls and coffin

2622
02:43:42,930 --> 02:43:45,750
foreigners. We got some breast
milk and powdered ginger ale and

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02:43:45,750 --> 02:43:47,280
gerbil said mutton and Mead.

2624
02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:53,040
No agenda nation.com/rings
Please get back to show all your

2625
02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:55,890
information and he will give it
off to you as soon as possible.

2626
02:43:56,760 --> 02:43:57,210
Okay.

2627
02:43:58,950 --> 02:44:04,020
Ah, wow. It's been quite a lot
of topics today. Yeah. Well,

2628
02:44:04,380 --> 02:44:07,830
Zuck took a lot of time. Yeah.
All right. Are you in a hurry?

2629
02:44:09,630 --> 02:44:13,050
Yeah, I'm always in a hurry.
Okay, he has things to do people

2630
02:44:13,050 --> 02:44:16,350
to see babies to kiss press,
press and flesh got it.

2631
02:44:17,940 --> 02:44:21,000
This is a little bit of an algo
story with just to lighten the

2632
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:25,110
mood somewhat, confirming what
I'd heard from the former New

2633
02:44:25,110 --> 02:44:29,190
York banker from Bloomberg girl
regarding the pricing policy

2634
02:44:29,220 --> 02:44:32,070
Uber's new pricing policy. I
haven't taken an Uber in a

2635
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:35,190
while. But I remember the last
time I did, it told me how much

2636
02:44:35,190 --> 02:44:38,190
it was going to cost right up
front. I'm like, Oh, well, I'm

2637
02:44:38,190 --> 02:44:40,740
not going to take the Luke so
why don't I just take the other

2638
02:44:40,740 --> 02:44:44,970
one because the same car. And as
I figured that much out the

2639
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:47,760
difference between their black
or their Luke's or whatever is

2640
02:44:48,090 --> 02:44:53,460
exactly same car, but the driver
may have a minimum 4.5 rating or

2641
02:44:53,460 --> 02:44:56,760
some crap like that. So I'll
take my risks. Here's a

2642
02:44:56,760 --> 02:44:59,490
Bloomberg report on Uber rolled
out upfront pricing for

2643
02:44:59,490 --> 02:45:00,000
passengers.

2644
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,300
where they just told passengers
you're gonna pay this. But

2645
02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:05,730
drivers were still being told in
the public was still being told

2646
02:45:05,730 --> 02:45:10,350
it was routed in the same
calculation time and distance.

2647
02:45:10,650 --> 02:45:13,110
And what we've learned is that
Uber is now doing something

2648
02:45:13,110 --> 02:45:15,900
else, it's time and distance,
and then sort of routes

2649
02:45:15,900 --> 02:45:19,680
propensity to pay, basically,
you know, people traveling from

2650
02:45:19,680 --> 02:45:22,740
point A to point B, you know,
we'll run experiments and see

2651
02:45:22,740 --> 02:45:25,320
how much we think they're gonna
pay at a given time of day. And

2652
02:45:25,320 --> 02:45:28,080
then we'll charge them that and
then Uber pockets the extra

2653
02:45:28,080 --> 02:45:32,010
money that it makes sometimes
reinvest into driver bonuses or

2654
02:45:32,010 --> 02:45:34,890
incentives riders, but they they
make that extra money instead of

2655
02:45:34,890 --> 02:45:39,510
passing it on to drivers. How
does Uber decide whether to

2656
02:45:39,540 --> 02:45:42,990
charge more on a particular
Rouse? I mean, they're using

2657
02:45:42,990 --> 02:45:47,040
machine learning algorithms,
sort of predictive technology to

2658
02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:50,340
try and figure out, okay, if we
charge, you know, a little bit

2659
02:45:50,340 --> 02:45:53,640
more for Uber X, our sort of
peer to peer service and a

2660
02:45:53,640 --> 02:45:57,360
little bit less for Uber pool
to, from here to there, is that

2661
02:45:57,360 --> 02:46:01,140
optimizing for our income and
for usage to basically they're

2662
02:46:01,140 --> 02:46:05,100
running all these experiments,
tied to geographies tied in a

2663
02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:07,890
time of day to say people
traveling from this place to

2664
02:46:07,890 --> 02:46:10,740
that place? How much are they
willing to pay? And then based

2665
02:46:10,740 --> 02:46:12,570
on those experiments, set the
price.

2666
02:46:16,140 --> 02:46:19,230
There's a business model for
you. She sounds like a

2667
02:46:19,230 --> 02:46:22,680
nightmare. Yeah, I like kind of
like that lib, Joe. You know,

2668
02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:25,440
he's like, Oh, the drivers are
getting screwed. I forget about

2669
02:46:25,440 --> 02:46:27,540
the drivers. How about the cup
of the customers?

2670
02:46:29,250 --> 02:46:32,220
Yeah, just like, oh, wait, man.
Oh, it's curry. Yeah.

2671
02:46:34,230 --> 02:46:37,080
Yeah, they could jack your
individual prices up on the

2672
02:46:37,080 --> 02:46:41,250
individuals. Sure. But the thing
is as a as a consumer of this

2673
02:46:41,250 --> 02:46:41,910
product.

2674
02:46:43,170 --> 02:46:46,170
Until I was told I really didn't
think about it.

2675
02:46:48,120 --> 02:46:50,940
I really, I just I really just
didn't even cross my mind. Like,

2676
02:46:51,060 --> 02:46:53,370
that's just the cost. You know,
I figured it's per mile, you

2677
02:46:53,370 --> 02:46:56,070
know, the typical but no, it's
not per mile that just like,

2678
02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,380
pay this much.

2679
02:47:01,260 --> 02:47:04,200
It's, it's pretty novel.

2680
02:47:05,700 --> 02:47:06,330
Yes.

2681
02:47:07,770 --> 02:47:09,210
All right. Well, let's see what
else we got.

2682
02:47:10,680 --> 02:47:14,730
Hot sales in California aren't
what they expected. Oh, you're

2683
02:47:14,730 --> 02:47:18,150
doing a little clip blitz on me,
I guess. Fans have not bought as

2684
02:47:18,150 --> 02:47:21,570
much marijuana as expected.
Since the drug became legal. The

2685
02:47:21,570 --> 02:47:26,550
Sacramento Bee reports retailers
racked up $339 million in sales

2686
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:30,420
in January and February. But
that's about $44 million less

2687
02:47:30,420 --> 02:47:33,660
than Analysts had expected. The
figures were provided by a

2688
02:47:33,660 --> 02:47:37,950
Colorado company called BDS
Analytics. The state is expected

2689
02:47:37,950 --> 02:47:41,580
to provide its own sales figures
by the middle of next month.

2690
02:47:43,980 --> 02:47:47,610
Well, 333 for two months, and
we'll just got started is going

2691
02:47:47,610 --> 02:47:52,350
to go up, it'll probably be
close to 400 million every

2692
02:47:52,350 --> 02:47:56,010
couple months, which amounts to
a lot.

2693
02:47:59,100 --> 02:48:03,720
400 times six, six is $22.4
billion.

2694
02:48:05,280 --> 02:48:07,800
So that's yeah, they get some
tax money that these other

2695
02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:10,500
states have to be looking at
that California, you know, I

2696
02:48:10,500 --> 02:48:12,420
don't know what they're gonna do
with this tax money besides, you

2697
02:48:12,420 --> 02:48:16,020
know, putting people's pockets
but right. It sounds reasonable.

2698
02:48:17,490 --> 02:48:21,930
I'm gonna see if there's
anything, I guess the big story

2699
02:48:21,930 --> 02:48:25,170
that we're hearing here, and I
didn't really do a full EU

2700
02:48:25,170 --> 02:48:27,810
report, but I could still do
that on Sunday. But this is I'm

2701
02:48:27,810 --> 02:48:31,980
sure that everyone knows about
the story in the US now as well,

2702
02:48:32,280 --> 02:48:34,500
over the last three months, and
in particular, in the last

2703
02:48:34,650 --> 02:48:39,510
several days, we've had a
unusual spike in horrible

2704
02:48:39,540 --> 02:48:40,380
homicides.

2705
02:48:42,240 --> 02:48:46,410
Ghastly events that have taken
people's lives and devastated

2706
02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:51,210
other people's lives, we clearly
as a city have a big problem.

2707
02:48:51,240 --> 02:48:55,110
Now it's only affecting a small
proportion of the city, but it

2708
02:48:55,110 --> 02:48:59,550
is a not a horrible problem. And
it has has, you know, devastated

2709
02:48:59,550 --> 02:49:03,990
lives in the last few months. So
looking forward, we all need to

2710
02:49:03,990 --> 02:49:09,060
work together. And from our part
we need to up our efforts and

2711
02:49:09,060 --> 02:49:12,330
that's exactly what we're doing.
And this is all about the knife

2712
02:49:12,330 --> 02:49:13,830
crime in the UK.

2713
02:49:15,060 --> 02:49:19,110
Which is having a higher death
rate than Detroit it's London

2714
02:49:19,230 --> 02:49:21,780
it's incredible and it's their
banning first of all, they're

2715
02:49:21,780 --> 02:49:25,680
banning the the British
equivalent of the assault rifle,

2716
02:49:25,680 --> 02:49:29,820
which is the zombie knife, which
I immediately when the story

2717
02:49:29,820 --> 02:49:32,610
broke ordered one on Amazon and
I know it was delivered because

2718
02:49:32,610 --> 02:49:35,520
I got the notification because
there'll be off Amazon soon

2719
02:49:35,520 --> 02:49:38,610
enough. What is it? God you
gotta you gotta Google Bing it I

2720
02:49:38,610 --> 02:49:40,380
mean to Sorry, I gotta get

2721
02:49:42,330 --> 02:49:44,940
a messed up go to the EU next
thing you know, you're saying

2722
02:49:44,940 --> 02:49:48,450
Google it. Yeah, hold on a sec.
I gotta I gotta do Google de

2723
02:49:48,450 --> 02:49:51,780
Google find myself. What's the
what was the name of zombie

2724
02:49:51,840 --> 02:49:54,720
zombie knife? Yes. Zombie knife.
Yeah, what do you what are they

2725
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:56,070
good for the good steak knife.

2726
02:49:57,660 --> 02:49:58,080
Go ahead.

2727
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:00,960
Oh yeah

2728
02:50:02,129 --> 02:50:02,609
yeah

2729
02:50:06,420 --> 02:50:06,990
oh I'm gonna

2730
02:50:08,069 --> 02:50:13,019
that's the whole song I got just
begun to start the music now I

2731
02:50:13,019 --> 02:50:17,249
just want the jingle cheese
about this one What are zombie

2732
02:50:17,249 --> 02:50:20,999
knives are the street blades
banned in the UK? And I've got

2733
02:50:20,999 --> 02:50:23,669
the images up and it looks as
though there's two or three

2734
02:50:23,669 --> 02:50:26,189
cases of these Those are good
company there's a there's a

2735
02:50:26,189 --> 02:50:29,489
stiletto and there's one that
looks like an axe yeah that's

2736
02:50:29,489 --> 02:50:32,699
that I kind of got one of those
law curving so it's got to be

2737
02:50:32,699 --> 02:50:35,939
curved blade I don't know what
good that is. Yeah, with the

2738
02:50:35,939 --> 02:50:39,659
current looks like a cling on
knife. Yeah, that's I got some.

2739
02:50:39,839 --> 02:50:44,249
There's a big scholar of
choices. Just a whole crapload

2740
02:50:44,249 --> 02:50:46,019
of these things are all
different looking.

2741
02:50:47,100 --> 02:50:50,370
So which one did you get at this
hour? Well, now I died would

2742
02:50:50,370 --> 02:50:51,450
have to look up the

2743
02:50:52,500 --> 02:50:56,910
woman's head look it up. Well,
I'm kind of interested in many

2744
02:50:56,910 --> 02:51:01,710
of these are just nerd knives. I
can look at a saw blade.

2745
02:51:03,390 --> 02:51:07,830
Let me say Well, what I did was
I got the one that most

2746
02:51:07,860 --> 02:51:11,520
accurately represented the
British press their

2747
02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:16,830
interpretation of the zombie
knife. So okay, here we go. Ah.

2748
02:51:17,220 --> 02:51:21,750
Oh my goodness. It's a good one.
Okay, look for the Z Hunter.

2749
02:51:22,560 --> 02:51:27,360
That Zulu hasn't Zulu Zulu
Hunter. Zb. Oh two. Oh, as in

2750
02:51:27,840 --> 02:51:34,290
Zebra Bravo. 020. Zombie killer
machete. Twotone. full tang

2751
02:51:34,290 --> 02:51:38,760
blade, green cord wrapped handle
23 and three quarter inch

2752
02:51:38,790 --> 02:51:39,540
overall.

2753
02:51:42,240 --> 02:51:45,300
And that was just the one I said
this is the one I think I've got

2754
02:51:45,300 --> 02:51:49,920
it. Yeah, the Z Hunter. Yeah,
it's got a little thing at the

2755
02:51:49,920 --> 02:51:53,550
end. Like it could be a steak
knife. Now is it one thing? It's

2756
02:51:54,750 --> 02:51:58,860
good? Yeah. Well, it's a little
big. It's got the serrated edge.

2757
02:51:58,860 --> 02:52:03,240
It's got the the hook. It's got
the head slicer. Yeah. Got

2758
02:52:03,240 --> 02:52:04,770
everything. You need to kill a
zombie?

2759
02:52:06,660 --> 02:52:09,600
Yeah, I would put it I think
it's a wall decoration. I think

2760
02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:10,860
but it's I think it's a
collectible.

2761
02:52:12,750 --> 02:52:17,670
Well, you know, there's a lot of
guys usually fat guys in Texas.

2762
02:52:18,510 --> 02:52:19,560
Collect knives.

2763
02:52:22,440 --> 02:52:23,730
I better start eating.

2764
02:52:27,150 --> 02:52:30,060
Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you bought
that. That sounds like a good

2765
02:52:30,060 --> 02:52:33,030
use of your money. How much did
it cost? Yeah, it was very

2766
02:52:33,030 --> 02:52:35,880
cheap. I just closed the window
like, like 20 bucks or

2767
02:52:35,880 --> 02:52:38,760
something. It's not that
ridiculous deal. I think it

2768
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:41,700
gives me a bunch of these. It's
just a whole bunch of them and

2769
02:52:41,700 --> 02:52:44,820
use them as steak knives. It is
a little long. Why don't we just

2770
02:52:44,820 --> 02:52:47,250
use them as night instead of
night rings.

2771
02:52:50,490 --> 02:52:56,280
Funny. Yeah. That's a thought.
Yeah. I still think there'll be

2772
02:52:56,280 --> 02:52:58,650
bringing him to meetups and
stuff. Now not a good idea.

2773
02:52:58,680 --> 02:53:01,590
Yeah, it'd be starting. Yeah,
no, there's already enough

2774
02:53:01,590 --> 02:53:02,850
hardware at the meetups.

2775
02:53:05,310 --> 02:53:09,360
So I picked up this little mini
clip, which I think is a classic

2776
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:12,030
is I don't know why this is
another thing reporters are

2777
02:53:12,030 --> 02:53:15,630
doing nowadays. They're putting
their you know, they they're

2778
02:53:15,630 --> 02:53:18,090
like correspondents from the
White House, or they're from

2779
02:53:18,090 --> 02:53:20,730
somewhere. And they do these
field reports and they can't get

2780
02:53:20,730 --> 02:53:24,390
anybody to say anything to them.
So they decide to put stuff on.

2781
02:53:24,540 --> 02:53:28,590
That's really just them yelling
at the guy. And you see this.

2782
02:53:28,980 --> 02:53:31,080
You see this also at some of
these

2783
02:53:32,400 --> 02:53:35,670
press conferences where they
have a camera on the reporter

2784
02:53:35,880 --> 02:53:39,180
asking a question, but let's
listen to this. This is Mr.

2785
02:53:39,180 --> 02:53:41,430
Manafort, did you commit a
crime?

2786
02:53:43,470 --> 02:53:46,380
Mr. Manafort, did you commit a
crime? The reaction was

2787
02:53:46,470 --> 02:53:47,760
Manafort. Good morning.

2788
02:53:48,810 --> 02:53:50,550
Mr. Manafort. Did you collude
with the Russians?

2789
02:53:55,980 --> 02:54:01,020
Sorry, is wrong? Or to go? Oh,
man, where's my any collusion?

2790
02:54:01,050 --> 02:54:03,060
Ah, damn it.

2791
02:54:05,100 --> 02:54:11,400
Too bad. So this guy had Kamala
Harris was on Ellen Show and she

2792
02:54:11,400 --> 02:54:15,060
said something that she thought
was funny about killing people

2793
02:54:15,060 --> 02:54:15,990
in an elevator

2794
02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:22,380
I'm sorry, did I blow your clip?
No, no, go ahead play it because

2795
02:54:22,380 --> 02:54:26,160
I saw this has been all over the
news here. I guess because Elon

2796
02:54:26,160 --> 02:54:30,090
is funny. This is brilliant is
just funny. They find you're

2797
02:54:30,090 --> 02:54:33,240
very funny. They find your very
endearing here. Oh, she's

2798
02:54:33,240 --> 02:54:34,320
endearing this for sure.

2799
02:54:43,080 --> 02:54:44,640
Kind of reminds me I do have

2800
02:54:45,870 --> 02:54:50,250
not a funny clip at all,
actually. But we see we weren't

2801
02:54:50,250 --> 02:54:53,730
it. I put that. It was Loretta
Lynch. Did you see your

2802
02:54:53,730 --> 02:54:57,450
interview with what's his face
Lester? I didn't I didn't see it

2803
02:54:57,450 --> 02:54:58,320
now. Ah

2804
02:54:59,550 --> 02:54:59,970
this

2805
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,600
Since this was about, you know,
she's kind of refuting that,

2806
02:55:03,720 --> 02:55:07,230
that she told Comey to call not
to call the Clinton

2807
02:55:07,230 --> 02:55:10,080
investigation investigation, but
to call it a matter.

2808
02:55:12,630 --> 02:55:16,320
Did Have you heard of Comey
testimony? Yeah. He said, she

2809
02:55:16,320 --> 02:55:20,340
told me call it a matter, not
not an investigation. And I was

2810
02:55:20,340 --> 02:55:23,130
like, Whoa, you know, that's
kind of weird. I'm paraphrasing.

2811
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:27,060
This was Lester Holt, I think
wasn't in the today's show,

2812
02:55:27,060 --> 02:55:30,090
maybe. And here, he asked the
question, James Comey was

2813
02:55:30,090 --> 02:55:33,480
testifying before Congress, I
think it was June of last year.

2814
02:55:33,690 --> 02:55:37,800
And he noted that you had asked
him to call the Clinton probe a

2815
02:55:37,800 --> 02:55:42,360
matter not an investigation. But
he said it made him feel I'm

2816
02:55:42,360 --> 02:55:45,600
paraphrasing, it made him feel
strange. He noted it. What did

2817
02:55:45,600 --> 02:55:47,910
you mean, when you said let's
call it a matter and not an

2818
02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:51,390
investigation? Well, you know, I
I heard about that testimony. I

2819
02:55:51,420 --> 02:55:55,080
didn't watch it at the time. But
I it was brought to my attention

2820
02:55:55,140 --> 02:55:57,960
later, and people were raising
it with me. And my first

2821
02:55:57,960 --> 02:56:01,230
response was what, you know,
what? Were what is the issue

2822
02:56:01,230 --> 02:56:04,230
here? And, you know, I remember
specifically talking with him,

2823
02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:07,620
as we talked about sensitive
things on a number of occasions,

2824
02:56:07,620 --> 02:56:10,200
you know, we often would have to
discuss sensitive matters,

2825
02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:13,500
sensitive issues, terrorism, and
the like, you know, law

2826
02:56:13,500 --> 02:56:17,130
enforcement policy, and the
like, and this was the White

2827
02:56:17,670 --> 02:56:21,930
nation is everyone knew, and the
issue when he and I sat down at

2828
02:56:21,930 --> 02:56:27,390
that time, which I think was
early in the fall of 2015. was

2829
02:56:27,390 --> 02:56:30,540
whether or not we were ready as
a department to confirm an

2830
02:56:30,540 --> 02:56:34,530
investigation going on, when we
typically do not confirm or deny

2831
02:56:34,530 --> 02:56:38,730
investigations into anything.
With rare exceptions, which are

2832
02:56:38,730 --> 02:56:41,760
Comey says you want to call it
the Clinton matter. He wants to

2833
02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:44,400
call the Clinton investigation
to the extent though, that he

2834
02:56:44,400 --> 02:56:47,550
noted it that it bothered him.
Did he go to you and question

2835
02:56:47,550 --> 02:56:51,180
your credibility with regard to
the Clinton case? Well, I can

2836
02:56:51,180 --> 02:56:53,820
tell you that, you know, it was
a meeting like any other that we

2837
02:56:53,820 --> 02:56:56,550
that we had had where we talked
about the issues, and we had a

2838
02:56:56,550 --> 02:57:00,120
full and open discussion about
it. We didn't raise any concerns

2839
02:57:00,690 --> 02:57:02,490
and concerns were not raised.

2840
02:57:03,540 --> 02:57:07,530
The hair is a liar. Yeah. First
of all, first of all, the big

2841
02:57:07,530 --> 02:57:11,520
lie is that she didn't watch it
at the time, right. I was doing

2842
02:57:11,520 --> 02:57:14,970
so manually. Yeah. I had nothing
better. I had something better

2843
02:57:14,970 --> 02:57:16,770
to do. Yeah.

2844
02:57:18,030 --> 02:57:21,900
She was glued to it. Let's face
it. Why wouldn't she be there?

2845
02:57:22,920 --> 02:57:27,690
All right, what else? I got a
this is a short. This is not a

2846
02:57:28,020 --> 02:57:32,190
Liza Schlesinger. But this is
another comic that was just

2847
02:57:32,190 --> 02:57:34,080
floating around. Somebody just
linked me to it. I don't know

2848
02:57:34,080 --> 02:57:37,590
who she is. But listen to this
is the joke that I keep bringing

2849
02:57:37,590 --> 02:57:40,680
up, which is Ed girl, she says
it in here the sexual

2850
02:57:40,680 --> 02:57:44,790
harassment. Hall Pass where
it'll be like if a woman walked

2851
02:57:44,790 --> 02:57:49,350
by can I even say she looked
nice. And men can not get

2852
02:57:49,350 --> 02:57:53,070
accused of sexual harassment.
And whereas almost all the time,

2853
02:57:53,400 --> 02:57:56,430
man, all you have to do is be
Hi.

2854
02:57:59,640 --> 02:58:05,010
I saw this with Tina. As she
laughs Yeah, all you had to do

2855
02:58:05,010 --> 02:58:08,100
is be how you want to not get
sexual charges of sexual

2856
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:09,810
harassment. Just be hot

2857
02:58:13,770 --> 02:58:17,580
man, that's priceless. All
right, you want to wrap it up

2858
02:58:17,580 --> 02:58:20,700
here? Well, let me get another
couple of these shorties here

2859
02:58:20,760 --> 02:58:24,390
already. We have an insane
homeless guy can run that to the

2860
02:58:24,390 --> 02:58:27,870
next show because it's pretty
funny. Oh, come on. You rented

2861
02:58:27,870 --> 02:58:33,000
my whetted my appetite. But the
insane guy that's doing this is

2862
02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:36,090
a local stories. But here's the
one that's got all of

2863
02:58:36,090 --> 02:58:40,320
everybody's attention which is
the little house and Glenn. Down

2864
02:58:40,350 --> 02:58:45,360
Willow Glen does and San Jose
area. The $800,000 teardown

2865
02:58:48,090 --> 02:58:51,450
to attend a burned out home and
San Jose's Willow Glen

2866
02:58:51,450 --> 02:58:56,430
neighborhood is selling for get
this $800,000 It's another sign

2867
02:58:56,430 --> 02:58:59,670
of just how out of whack Bay
Area housing prices have become.

2868
02:58:59,700 --> 02:59:03,240
Yeah, Kate's views ASOs Smith is
at the home on bird Avenue as

2869
02:59:03,450 --> 02:59:07,410
the realtor says for some
homebuyers. This actually might

2870
02:59:07,440 --> 02:59:09,660
be considered a bargain
seriously.

2871
02:59:11,070 --> 02:59:14,580
Frank and Heather the realtor
tells me that a bidding war may

2872
02:59:14,580 --> 02:59:18,540
even happen it's obvious when
you see this house it needs to

2873
02:59:18,540 --> 02:59:22,890
be remodeled, possibly torn down
demolished. The realtor tells me

2874
02:59:22,890 --> 02:59:26,430
the asking price is reasonable
given the housing market and its

2875
02:59:26,520 --> 02:59:27,240
location

2876
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:33,060
so this thing is a burned out
Hulk I've seen it

2877
02:59:34,080 --> 02:59:37,710
all you see I think it's a
national story. Yeah, I saw it.

2878
02:59:38,550 --> 02:59:39,060
But

2879
02:59:40,080 --> 02:59:42,480
I mean look, I can't call you my
friend because you don't have

2880
02:59:42,480 --> 02:59:46,530
Facebook. But I really should
recommend you think about

2881
02:59:46,530 --> 02:59:48,600
getting out at the top of the
market.

2882
02:59:51,690 --> 02:59:55,410
You know, your place has got to
be worse than some box

2883
02:59:57,150 --> 02:59:59,970
and if you if you know in it

2884
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:01,260
is a tear down. Let's face it.

2885
03:00:02,280 --> 03:00:05,040
Yeah, with all that stuff you
got in there not on younger

2886
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:07,380
clean that just tear it all
down, dispose of everything.

2887
03:00:09,059 --> 03:00:09,959
But who cares?

2888
03:00:11,940 --> 03:00:15,750
Yeah, moved to Wyoming a show
really made me feel much better

2889
03:00:15,750 --> 03:00:16,440
if I do that.

2890
03:00:17,670 --> 03:00:20,520
Washington, Washington.

2891
03:00:21,930 --> 03:00:24,990
Okay. Let's see what else they
got here. There's a couple of

2892
03:00:25,560 --> 03:00:27,990
you know what the one story we
do have to do this story and

2893
03:00:27,990 --> 03:00:31,650
then we can quit. Darn it. And I
do I think I have the lead and

2894
03:00:31,650 --> 03:00:36,360
the you know, the Trump's
lawyers office was raided. Yes.

2895
03:00:36,570 --> 03:00:42,120
Yes. This is really odd. Very
odd. And but and I have first

2896
03:00:42,120 --> 03:00:45,390
introductory clip, which is CNN,
which is rating the lawyer's

2897
03:00:45,390 --> 03:00:47,970
office, you can play that we
have given breaking news just in

2898
03:00:47,970 --> 03:00:51,270
the New York Times, just
reported that the FBI today

2899
03:00:51,270 --> 03:00:55,470
raided the offices of President
Trump's longtime Attorney

2900
03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:59,340
Michael Cohen seizing records
related to multiple topics,

2901
03:00:59,370 --> 03:01:03,480
including on that payment to
adult film actress stormy

2902
03:01:03,480 --> 03:01:07,080
Daniels alleged hush money. The
New York Times also reporting

2903
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:11,430
that the FBI also seized emails,
tax documents and business

2904
03:01:11,430 --> 03:01:15,390
records, and that the records
include communications between

2905
03:01:15,450 --> 03:01:18,480
Michael Cullen the president's
attorney and President Trump,

2906
03:01:18,840 --> 03:01:21,750
which would likely require a
special team of agents to review

2907
03:01:21,750 --> 03:01:24,870
because conversations with
lawyers and clients are

2908
03:01:24,870 --> 03:01:28,500
protected. In most instances,
this is a breaking news story.

2909
03:01:28,500 --> 03:01:32,850
My panel is here with me for the
special breaking news and react.

2910
03:01:32,880 --> 03:01:36,030
And let me start with you, Bill,
Bill crystal, the fact that the

2911
03:01:36,030 --> 03:01:39,840
FBI, apparently with a referral
from Bob Muller, the Special

2912
03:01:39,840 --> 03:01:43,410
Counsel is rating Michael
Cohen's offices, this seems

2913
03:01:43,410 --> 03:01:46,230
rather significant. And I assume
they would need a warrant to do

2914
03:01:46,230 --> 03:01:48,180
that, which means the judge
would have had to have found and

2915
03:01:48,180 --> 03:01:50,970
I'm not a lawyer, so don't hold
me to this, but some reasonable

2916
03:01:51,330 --> 03:01:54,960
reason to do this. The FBI can't
just go read offices that its

2917
03:01:54,960 --> 03:01:57,900
own. So that's interesting what
a judge found that there was

2918
03:01:57,900 --> 03:02:00,570
some reason to take a look at
these records and Cohen's

2919
03:02:00,570 --> 03:02:06,600
office. Yeah, yeah. What was the
reason? Well, I think I found

2920
03:02:06,600 --> 03:02:09,780
the reason, okay. Even though
everyone's all bent out of shape

2921
03:02:09,780 --> 03:02:13,410
about this, it seems as if
Muller decided that there was a

2922
03:02:13,410 --> 03:02:17,130
crime committed, and he had to
report it. So he gave it over to

2923
03:02:17,130 --> 03:02:21,630
the FBI and then they busted in
and got into here is the here is

2924
03:02:21,630 --> 03:02:25,320
the only rational I think that
actually makes sense, as opposed

2925
03:02:25,320 --> 03:02:27,630
to oh, they're just doing a
fishing expedition to try to get

2926
03:02:27,630 --> 03:02:29,460
the goods on Trump, I don't
think has anything to do with

2927
03:02:29,460 --> 03:02:32,460
Trump, I think is a situation
where Moeller as a law

2928
03:02:32,460 --> 03:02:36,570
enforcement officer had to
report this particular crime.

2929
03:02:36,870 --> 03:02:39,870
And it's kind of a joke What
this crime is, but his wife bust

2930
03:02:39,870 --> 03:02:44,010
the lawyer one theory, it's
still unclear what the FBI was

2931
03:02:44,010 --> 03:02:47,730
looking for bank fraud regarding
the payment to stormy Daniels

2932
03:02:47,730 --> 03:02:51,840
has been suggested. Sources tell
Fox News, Cohen paid Daniels

2933
03:02:51,840 --> 03:02:55,020
from an existing home equity
line of credit, and that he

2934
03:02:55,020 --> 03:02:58,380
didn't need to tell the bank
what the money was for the

2935
03:02:58,380 --> 03:03:03,450
$130,000 was then transferred to
an LLC solely owned by Cohen.

2936
03:03:03,660 --> 03:03:06,690
And from there wired to an
attorney in Beverly Hills wire

2937
03:03:06,690 --> 03:03:09,330
fraud. President Trump denies
any knowledge of the

2938
03:03:09,330 --> 03:03:13,530
transaction. wire fraud. Well, I
think wire fraud may be in part

2939
03:03:13,530 --> 03:03:17,310
of it. But I think the main
thing is bank fraud. Ha.

2940
03:03:18,750 --> 03:03:23,280
man when he had it, he took out
a loan, a home equity loan,

2941
03:03:23,280 --> 03:03:27,030
which you only do to improve
your property or generally

2942
03:03:27,030 --> 03:03:29,160
speaking, and maybe you could
take it out for any old reason.

2943
03:03:29,160 --> 03:03:32,400
That's what he claims are then
wire fraud may be a fallback,

2944
03:03:32,400 --> 03:03:34,290
but it's something like that.
It's got nothing to do with

2945
03:03:34,290 --> 03:03:37,350
Trump or the Russians. It's
probably some tax implication

2946
03:03:37,350 --> 03:03:40,590
somewhere along the line with
LLC in the middle because you

2947
03:03:40,590 --> 03:03:45,000
guys screwed the answer. Just
shut up. Yeah. Well, I'll tell

2948
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:47,490
you going on, oh, I got the
money. I get it. And Trump had

2949
03:03:47,490 --> 03:03:50,250
nothing to do with it. When he
just shut up. Yeah, he's a

2950
03:03:50,250 --> 03:03:54,180
lawyer. He knows better. Yeah,
he's not a good lawyer. And if

2951
03:03:54,180 --> 03:03:56,760
he can't shut up, but that's,
you know, it's concerning. You

2952
03:03:56,760 --> 03:03:59,550
know, this is the the people the
president surrounds himself with

2953
03:04:00,120 --> 03:04:03,720
these morons. Well, maybe you
got an upgrade here or there?

2954
03:04:04,980 --> 03:04:07,590
Well, I would be remissed
without telling you what the

2955
03:04:07,590 --> 03:04:11,010
American public is not only
really interested in, but

2956
03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:17,220
they're excited. And apparently,
stormy also says she's talking

2957
03:04:17,220 --> 03:04:20,580
with federal investigators as
well. And she's also coming to

2958
03:04:20,580 --> 03:04:24,870
see and up with us on Tuesday
for her live first live

2959
03:04:24,900 --> 03:04:25,350
interview.

2960
03:04:31,170 --> 03:04:31,890
I suppose

2961
03:04:33,270 --> 03:04:37,140
many, many, many, many, many,
many, many things.

2962
03:04:39,120 --> 03:04:40,200
Well, first of all,

2963
03:04:41,280 --> 03:04:42,780
Storm is not her name.

2964
03:04:44,820 --> 03:04:47,880
And I kind of prefer PBS because
they use her name, which I don't

2965
03:04:47,880 --> 03:04:49,410
even have off the top of my
head.

2966
03:04:51,870 --> 03:04:54,780
Because that's, you know, it
seems to me that she did to keep

2967
03:04:54,780 --> 03:04:58,230
using her stage name. That's
just promotion for her. They do

2968
03:04:58,230 --> 03:04:59,970
that with actors too savvy.

2969
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:02,820
stripper I mean, ladies and
gentlemen, give it up for Bobby

2970
03:05:02,820 --> 03:05:04,650
Zimmerman. Oh, come on. No.

2971
03:05:05,910 --> 03:05:07,500
Well, if there's in the news

2972
03:05:09,389 --> 03:05:14,969
didn't he changed his name?
illegally to Bob Dylan? I'm not

2973
03:05:14,969 --> 03:05:18,089
sure about that. She's Stephanie
Clifford. There you go.

2974
03:05:20,370 --> 03:05:22,230
Okay, okay, well done.

2975
03:05:23,340 --> 03:05:26,580
Wow way over time way Oh, wow.
When you know, you know, the

2976
03:05:26,580 --> 03:05:27,630
biggest problem is

2977
03:05:28,740 --> 03:05:33,090
you can't stop the machine now.
I can. No, that's not it. Just

2978
03:05:33,090 --> 03:05:36,570
keeps recording. No, we never
exited executive mode, but I'll

2979
03:05:36,570 --> 03:05:40,080
do that at the very end. Ah,
yeah, we got it. I got Yeah,

2980
03:05:40,110 --> 03:05:43,500
though. It's just douchebags the
whole time executive douchebags

2981
03:05:44,400 --> 03:05:47,130
kind of something like that.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's

2982
03:05:47,130 --> 03:05:47,460
fine.

2983
03:05:49,350 --> 03:05:52,920
All right, everybody, this was
your bi weekly media

2984
03:05:52,920 --> 03:05:54,540
deconstruction.

2985
03:05:56,280 --> 03:06:00,630
And so you know, stormy Daniels
is they got it her heights five,

2986
03:06:00,630 --> 03:06:05,730
seven. And apparently her weight
is 2010 pounds.

2987
03:06:06,840 --> 03:06:09,480
Who says that? Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm reading the wrong line.

2988
03:06:09,480 --> 03:06:09,600
They're

2989
03:06:12,360 --> 03:06:16,650
fine. Coming to you from the
garden of Amsterdam here in

2990
03:06:16,650 --> 03:06:19,050
Quito nation lowlands where
maybe we'll still figure out how

2991
03:06:19,050 --> 03:06:19,770
to do to meet up.

2992
03:06:21,000 --> 03:06:23,970
Remember us for our coming show.
John will be in Biloxi. I'll

2993
03:06:23,970 --> 03:06:28,530
still be here. That will be on
Sunday. Until then. I'm Adam

2994
03:06:28,530 --> 03:06:28,980
curry.

2995
03:06:30,360 --> 03:06:33,270
And from Northern Silicon
Valley, where there's still the

2996
03:06:33,300 --> 03:06:37,320
kung fu fighting. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We will speak to you

2997
03:06:37,320 --> 03:06:41,190
again on Sunday right here at no
agenda and really until then in

2998
03:06:41,190 --> 03:06:46,050
the morning remembers a
dvorak.org and adios mofos

2999
03:06:47,340 --> 03:06:48,090
they need a cap

3000
03:06:49,440 --> 03:06:51,120
app. Here's one

3001
03:07:00,750 --> 03:07:01,980
they are big and they

3002
03:07:03,150 --> 03:07:06,120
are on the record about how
Kentucky seniors who

3003
03:07:07,140 --> 03:07:09,510
are professional basketball
player well this is a stunning

3004
03:07:09,510 --> 03:07:13,110
development alright. It's been a
really important question into a

3005
03:07:13,110 --> 03:07:16,650
tool in the industry. It's
against the law and for me

3006
03:07:16,650 --> 03:07:19,860
personally the fact that people
are right here on the union

3007
03:07:19,920 --> 03:07:22,710
report about Kentucky seniors
believe this

3008
03:07:23,760 --> 03:07:27,330
kangaroo pantry dining
development our entries and ship

3009
03:07:27,360 --> 03:07:31,980
deserves everyone who's Houston
we help students faculty and

3010
03:07:31,980 --> 03:07:36,360
staff Everyone comes here and
they submit their food request

3011
03:07:36,360 --> 03:07:37,800
for ship I don't agree with

3012
03:07:39,270 --> 03:07:43,350
that form our boxes into a pool
of voters proceed to fill the

3013
03:07:43,350 --> 03:07:48,060
order so this person this is
extremely dangerous 30 In

3014
03:07:48,060 --> 03:07:51,360
college soon after taking
custody of mobile they announced

3015
03:07:51,360 --> 03:07:54,480
on the landscape the speakers of
loss for me has a dress in

3016
03:07:54,990 --> 03:07:55,560
relatively

3017
03:07:57,330 --> 03:07:58,200
a time for that

3018
03:07:59,310 --> 03:08:02,070
to sink on this election they
are big and they are

3019
03:08:07,260 --> 03:08:09,240
related people of color passing

3020
03:08:11,040 --> 03:08:13,860
on your couch we're not
compressing the the fact that

3021
03:08:13,860 --> 03:08:17,550
people or whether they utilities

3022
03:08:29,970 --> 03:08:31,590
shapeshifting Jews

3023
03:08:35,670 --> 03:08:37,170
shapeshifting Jews

3024
03:08:41,310 --> 03:08:42,120
shape shifting

3025
03:08:46,980 --> 03:08:47,610
shapes and

3026
03:08:53,730 --> 03:08:58,860
leaping in a railway station got
no ticket for no destination

3027
03:09:05,310 --> 03:09:08,370
Grimaud came to perform

3028
03:09:10,380 --> 03:09:13,830
the shopping and a master's in
the liberal

3029
03:09:15,840 --> 03:09:17,250
homeless

3030
03:09:18,840 --> 03:09:20,040
I wish I

3031
03:09:25,770 --> 03:09:30,780
was junkies biking home with the
crazies firing home

3032
03:09:34,200 --> 03:09:34,980
tree

3033
03:09:36,750 --> 03:09:40,620
marriage day they forget it
seems about biological

3034
03:09:47,130 --> 03:09:50,340
I don't think they've thought
through the plan goes with the

3035
03:09:51,120 --> 03:09:56,070
toilet man. You don't think of
the garbage man and take a crab

3036
03:09:58,920 --> 03:09:59,940
home

3037
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I

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wish I

3039
03:10:05,220 --> 03:10:05,850
was back

3040
03:10:08,940 --> 03:10:11,280
with a junkies biking home

3041
03:10:22,830 --> 03:10:28,020
our sleep in the past folks used
syringes and broken glass

3042
03:10:33,960 --> 03:10:39,960
for life this awkward 14 hours
of techno love for miles off the

3043
03:10:39,960 --> 03:10:42,540
door to my trailer behind my

3044
03:10:44,670 --> 03:10:46,020
homeless

3045
03:10:47,940 --> 03:10:50,880
machina Oh

3046
03:10:54,570 --> 03:11:00,060
weather junkies biking home
where the crazies fighting with

3047
03:11:16,980 --> 03:11:19,950
should we need a jingle or
somebody goes exe entering

3048
03:11:19,950 --> 03:11:20,610
executive

3049
03:11:21,990 --> 03:11:24,900
now entering executive mode now
entering

3050
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executive

3051
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for when we talk about how hot
chicks are on TV, is that what

3052
03:11:35,700 --> 03:11:39,900
you mean? Yeah, because we don't
really normally talk that way.

3053
03:11:40,050 --> 03:11:43,710
Except when we're an executive
mode and what we're doing the

3054
03:11:43,710 --> 03:11:45,330
reality is ridiculing

3055
03:11:46,620 --> 03:11:52,290
the people that talk that way?
Yes. At the same time, being

3056
03:11:52,290 --> 03:11:54,360
very frightening and showing how
good we are at it.

3057
03:11:55,740 --> 03:11:58,290
We couldn't be where we are
executives of our own show.

3058
03:11:59,940 --> 03:12:04,140
Here is the follow on question.
This is about how it really came

3059
03:12:04,140 --> 03:12:07,500
down or it went down what what
happened first than the

3060
03:12:07,500 --> 03:12:11,280
inventory of lost items with che
i cut most of shift in town.

3061
03:12:13,260 --> 03:12:15,240
And she looks I hate to say
this.

3062
03:12:16,560 --> 03:12:17,970
I don't like to criticize
people's

3063
03:12:19,710 --> 03:12:23,010
people's appearance. Oh, come
on. Hold on.

3064
03:12:25,980 --> 03:12:29,940
No entering executive mode. kind
of feeling about the way

3065
03:12:29,940 --> 03:12:34,500
somebody presents themselves.
Now entering executive mode,

3066
03:12:34,680 --> 03:12:39,420
inept arbeiten to stall almost
dead ringer for Gil Gail

3067
03:12:42,840 --> 03:12:45,990
Todd an executive node has
expired. Please make your way to

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03:12:45,990 --> 03:12:46,590
the exit.

3069
03:13:00,570 --> 03:13:04,080
vorak.org/and A

3070
03:13:07,710 --> 03:13:08,520
happy party