This guy was 12 years old who interviewed me. Adam curry, John
C. Devorah. And Sunday August 12 2018. This is your award
winning give on nation media assassination episode 1050. Man,
this is no agenda. deconstructing deep platforming
and broadcasting live from the Capitol. The drone Stars team
here in downtown Austin J House in the kludi. Oh, morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
in from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's smoky. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Buzzkill.
Ooh, thought went into it. Yes. Smoke a
lot of work went into that one. Real smoky. Yeah, come back from
up north is smoky, smoky.
So the smoke is now traveling over the bay. The smoke
is everywhere. Apparently they found some of the smoke has
traveled as far as I'm on. Or off Austin. Yeah. It's Boston to
Boston.
It's raining here mount. It's bad. Once again, the gays are
out of luck. Remember, last year, we had the Pride Parade
rained out. Hurricane Harvey. This year I tried number that.
Oh, yeah. And this year again, the Pride Parade. Right. Well,
they had the parade but it was rained out. They they didn't
cancel at least. It's been really bad. It's been wet,
stormy, crazy. rain sticks all the way. It always happens when
we shake them vigorously. Shake them baby. Yeah. And people keep
asking for more rain stick karma. I don't think we should
do it. I'm very worried. Because if we do any more, it's gonna it
could turn ugly in places doing
it until we get back to you know, next year. We'll do it
next year is a one year of bands. A whole year? Yeah. Don't
you think?
No, no, I think we should wait a little while till things calm
down. But people do need rainstick
I don't think you're going to need it for a year. Well, I'm
okay. We'll just let it we'll go. We'll add live but I'm
telling you, you're not gonna see any action.
That's my guess. You're so so frigid. No action.
No action, do this. Alright, so
you got back from up north from from Washington State.
Washington, and you had a big meet up there. Yes,
we had a big meetup. I'm gonna do a separate listing of the
donations The show received.
Seemed like you had 3040 people maybe there, but 48 Wow. That's
probably the biggest we've ever had. I think today close
to it. If not, it probably is the biggest. There are a hunger
and narrow hankering for a meetup. So we have in the
process. Of course, we had the entire garland clan. Yes. Issue
woman or sister or brother? Yeah.
Did you meet at least Garling? Yes, she
was there. She managed to get there. Oh, and how was she? She
must use we rushed over to get there and didn't bring the lemon
cello.
Did you say and of course you sent her back right away. He's
like, hey, what do you what do you think? Get out of my
response. They're
both of their day. They had to make the same horrible trip from
Port Angeles. So she's great. The whole group is great.
Yeah, it looks like there were some fun people there.
Ian is a has a they have an uncle or somebody that is a owns
a bar in Ballard that we're going to make as a permanent
meet up place for up there
in Port wash Port Angeles. Seattle, Seattle. area. He comes
from an interesting family. I think they made wine in their
brownstone in New York in the early 1900s or something. And
yeah, well, who else was there? Who else?
bemrose was there? The Dr. Burch night? Birch took all the
photos?
Yeah. Cool. Someone had a drone? I think for one of the photos I
saw looked like a drone shot.
No, that was the nature of the location.
Oh, okay. And Sir bemrose from from our stream services along
with Void zero he was there. No, void zero was not No, I'm not. I
know. Void wasn't there. He's in the Netherlands. But sir bemrose
Was there that's cool.
Yeah. So there's a lot of people those people from Amazon
security there's a Russian Card Trick guy there was
how was that different from a Ukrainian car trick guy though
is
the question. What was Russian training?
Hey, bemrose is pretty good looking guy. For dude named Ben.
There's a lot of
good looking dude named dudes named Ben. They're mostly I
think you have to place his dudes named Ben or or what?
Former dudes named Ben out now coding or doing something.
When you're wearing a t shirt that says no more beer, but then
on the command line and was like, Okay, we know where you're
coming from. Cool. So how did you follow the typical format?
Everyone sat down and talked a bit and then broke off or was
just
I mean, it would know that formats always been dead. It's
been dead. It's hard. Yeah,
I agree. I agree. So what we did is
we tried to have the meetup in one place, and they couldn't
accommodate us because everyone was there pre concert, Pearl Jam
concert, so the whole town was filled. Okay, and there's some
other event going on. It's a Microsoft thing. And then so we
went to another place where they turns out there's a this place
is half empty. Let's go in here. And it turns out they were
reserved to couldn't go in there. So we had that meeting
where you saw the photo from kind of out in the open like a
courtyard look like it's in a courtyard. And we spent,
like a gulag courtyard, honestly,
Seattle, and so to get into people used to it. And so
they've got so then we kind of went into the bar after everyone
kind of clear it out. And some of us stayed around. Oh, nice.
It's great. It's very interesting. Good conversation
lists. Interesting people.
Did you learn anything that's that we should discuss? Is there
anything?
No, no, but I did. I think I'm going to Okay,
excellent. Now, I was a little worried about you. I figured you
might have some trouble getting back to Oakland because of the
hijacking up there. Yeah, I
have a clip. Oh, okay. Hold
on a sec. Which one is it? To get my clip list. Should be
stolen plane in Seattle.
One man's apparent suicide mission that caused tension in
skies over Seattle for more than an hour Friday night.
Authorities say an employee of Horizon air a regional carrier
owned by Alaska Airlines, stolen empty turboprop plane from
Seattle Tacoma international airport before crashing it on
Ketron island in Puget Sound southwest of Seattle. amateur
video shows the plane being followed by f 15 fighter jets
before the crash. CBS News transportation correspondent
Chris Van Cleave is in our Washington bureau with the
latest. Chris Good morning. Hey Chris.
Good morning. The FBI says this does not appear to be an act of
terror. instead. Authorities say the 29 year old horizon air
ground service agent was suicidal when you stole the
plane. It was not in service it was parked in a maintenance area
last night. Investigators believe the crash occurred
because the man who appeared to lack flying skills was trying to
do stunts. cellphone video captured the moment the stolen
twin engine horizon Airlines plane does what appears to be a
mid air barrel roll before dropping down perilously above
the waterline off the coast of Seattle Washington. Oh is this
going to
be passenger plane just goes sideways goes almost like
perpendicular to the ground and just flies I don't like felt
like few 100 feet above the ground.
In radio communications air traffic controllers and a
horizon pilot refer to the man flying as rich. As they talk
with me became increasingly clear the airline employee was
not going to safely land the plane.
I got a lot of people that care about me. And it's gonna
disappoint them that I did this. Just that broken guy. Got a few
screws loose, I guess.
A pair of F 15 fighter jets were scrambled from a base in
Portland, Oregon, and intercepted the Q 400 turbo prop
within minutes. It could be seen from the ground trailing the
stolen plane.
One was low near the plane and one was high way up in the air
and they followed it around in a few minutes later, we heard a
loud explosion noise.
The hour long flight ended in a fiery crash on Ketron Island, a
small island with few residents. Investigators don't believe
anyone on the ground was hurt and the fire does not pose a
threat to anyone. It does not appear the man who stole the
plane survived the crash apparently was
somebody who did something wrong, did something foolish and
may well have paid
with his life. I am a little pissed because I found a video
on YouTube. And it's very hard to find any of the I couldn't
find this audio again because of course the video got pulled down
before I could record it. And it had at a certain point the F 15
pilots switched over to the sea TAC I don't know it was tower or
approach. And so they were talking to the tower saying what
they were doing and very clearly twice in fact that a certain
point one of the that was like number 45 and number 46 says
okay intercepted and that you know heard that twice like okay,
they intercepted him that doesn't just I don't think that
means you just flying around going waving at him. I think it
was shot down. Although I know that's been
immediately after the JC kept very close tabs on this good.
And immediately after the incident the internet roof
started reporting that he was shot down and that all those
reports had been were taken down.
I saw of course, a lot of the video, the barrel roll he did.
If you only if you learn that through flight simulator that
then flight simulator is amazeballs. I mean, you know, to
get this thing apparently he took off with his wheel smoking
so he probably had his feet on the brakes or something. It's
probably the brakes that were smoking. But he got he got
airborne. He didn't. This was this didn't look like someone
who had never flown an aircraft before maybe even specifically
this aircraft because I just that barrel roll. I've done a
few with an instructor I wouldn't know I mean, I'm of
course
I'm not. Now you talk about the barrel roll or where you're
going forward. And then you did you'd flip the plane around and
then you come back down. Yeah, well, basically, it's a half
loop
was a barrel roll that that I know of is the one where you're
going forward and just take you go and do a kind of a twirl
straight. Oh, no, he
went up. It's,
it's no, I'm saying that. That's what I always thought a barrel
roll was what I saw him do it was exactly what you said, which
is he came up and did a loop went upside down and came out of
it. He did a
barrel roll into the loop, which is I think technically your wing
over. So it's it's not quite the same as a loop because you don't
get the same G forces.
But he was flying upside down for a while. Okay, well, I
just I don't know, I only saw what I saw. I got I
saw that on one of the videos. And he was flying upside down
and somebody one of the videos guys. Wow, that place doesn't do
that. Because, you know, because these planes are all over this
area. These?
Well no, they don't do it typically. No. It's not typical
behavior.
And so and then they have one good shot of him coming down out
of one of these tricks and he comes down that's the water
that's
the one I'm talking about. That's the barrel roll the wing
over I'm talking about that was
good down toward the water and pulls up. And I'm just looking
at this I think the guy was so and you know, it seems like he
knew how to fly. He was doing some pretty fun.
But what I'm missing is do we have reports on his background
and I don't really see any other recording is seeing
nothing, nothing at all. I think
it's very well here I pulled a little bit from a different
video because you know the M five M is kind of playing that
which was in that report over and over again. There was
there's at least 18 minutes of conversation is a little bit
more
video games before I would like to figure out how to get this
champion out. Like I know where the box is. I would like to get
to make it pressurized or something so I'm not so I
thought this was interesting. Well, first of all, when he took
off I didn't clip that. He says oh hold on. I just threw up a
little bit. He's like puking in the cockpit I guess nerves or
whatever that was just upon takeoff. But now he's saying he
wants to pressurize the cabin. But as far as I know he never
really got above five or 6000 feet I don't think he was flying
above 10,000 At any point was he because he was always low so you
don't need to pressurize so his lightheadedness was from what I
what is obvious to me is the problem is Chantix this is this
is to me this is suicidal going crazy seemingly aware doing
nutty stuff yet able to function completely to me Chantix written
all over it let's listen to some more
minimum wage shock in recent years
just chalk it up to minimum wage that's why I'm flipping out a
little bit with Ira people's lives are at stake here. Now
there's now he's going schizophrenic
average Don't Don't say stuff like that
whisper sweet nothings into my ear. Essentially, Lascaux give
me a job as pilot you know, I think they will give you a job
doing anything white guy
know, oh, yeah, that's in there too. So I don't know. Maybe
it'll just get blamed on weed. He was smoking weed evil, evil
marijuana.
Well, they'd like to do that up in Washington. They do it in
Colorado do an Oregon they do an old thing where they can Yeah,
anywhere they can. I talked to as many different contexts as I
could over the weekend. No one has a confirmation of a shoot
down. But man bizarre for sure. Very bizarre. I
liked this Chantix angle I didn't think of that's the first
thing that came to mind. Of course, it's fresh and away. It
wasn't thinking well, I was a Pacific Northwest. So
you know, here's the thing. He was a gate. A ground agent so
you know he's responsible for helping us Yeah,
I thought That's that destroyed we were told and it even in that
report to say it was a mechanic
hmm okay I read a different report
using him as a mechanic and he was a he was one of the planes
that they were working on in the hangar.
Okay, I heard he was a ground service personnel let me see if
I can find that article where I found it but either way, whether
you're a mechanic or you're or you're on the tarmac, you're in
a non smoking area. So that's for sure there's going to be
people who have patches and I know patches like I've been
around hangers a lot lot of patches going on. So Chantix is
definitely a possibility
Well that'll never come out.
No, of course we're not even getting a background on this guy
that's what's crazy there the the Where's his last name?
Where's his last name?
I don't know. We don't even have his last name and it's due
yesterday moved to CBS Reporter The top one of the top women
work in a CBS I forgot her name off top my head but she's over
you know doing stuff for Sinclair now. blames all kinds
of things. You said the fact that she did an anti Shan Tex
report for CBS once was never Oh,
the Atkinson. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was the
Chantix reporting that the dinner and yeah, she doesn't
even know it. And right off the bat you realize well we don't
take advertisements here on the show is the only way we can
least talk about things. I don't know if we're getting to the
truth but I leave Chantix as an option. God,
it's an obvious one. Because this happens this exact sort of
thing. This kind of scenario is a side effect.
Yeah, suicidal. You sleepwalking you may not you may be somewhere
and not remember how you got their violence
going down in flames and things and waking up.
Gotta wake up. Well, it was it was interesting airmanship he
displayed and I'm glad no one got hurt, obviously.
Yeah, it's good that no one got hurt. He did give the show to
the locals. Yeah,
nice air show the Seattle air show everybody. It only lasts 15
minutes, laying around a commuter drop. Down. Should be
good though. It's the tmes by bombard EA. So they say hey,
look at these jets, or are these planes of ours are paying? Well,
that's a pretty big one. It's like I think it's 7075 76
passengers is pretty big minute. Yeah, those are nice. But then
I'm sure they can do that kind of maneuvering with no one on
board. That's not a problem. You know, we were about to go to bed
Saturday. And also my phone just starts blowing up, man. My
phones blowing up. And it's Eric the shill. He's like, Yeah, what
do you say about the hijacking? Oh, no. We got the music on we
got the candles going on at home stop. Let me check. Let me check
the hijack. Then there wasn't much at that point here. But
nationally there was but you get all this information. You know,
Eric, in his deconstruction mode, said well, you know this
guy's a mechanic he should know you can't fly upside down with
this aircraft because doesn't have pressurized air pumps like
that. Does she ever hear of centrifugal force you know, you
can fly this plane upside down without not the whole time
wouldn't be a good idea if you said he was upside down cross
country now you said he was upside down for a long time. For
a while,
it looked like he was upside down for a long time. I mean, a
long time on a video clip is like five six and
you got fuel pumps on and over but again all kinds of stuff you
kind of got to know and maybe he was over revving the engines I
mean, I'm not familiar with the sound so he may have been
because he kept talking about his fuel depleting pretty
quickly who knows. But if it's just if that if that guy learned
to fly like that from flight simulator or for X Box or
whatever, these things are valid.
They've always been valid people know that. I mean, this is very
valid. This is really valid and simulators have always been used
for training if
you said to me okay, we're just gonna we're just gonna assume he
knew how to start it just assume we knew how to start it which is
also a process yes, if you said yeah, hey, no key go fly that
thing. It's not it's not just that you get you know, you hear
the with turbine engines you have to get to your n one and
you know, you can't over rev it or the engine could split
there's a whole bunch of steps. Initial split Yes, yes, the
housing on the engine will split it if you want if if it goes up
to full speed too quickly. They have to take the whole engine I
know because I've over revved a jet engine. And it was very
costly mistake. getting set up we're gonna have to open the
engine now. You fucked it up.
That's embarrassing,
expensive and embarrassing as 1000s of dollars. It's very,
very bad. So while
you're on the topic, I mentioned my My some aspects of my trip.
Okay. Ah, yes, of course you because of the jet engine that
is that been installed at the Oakland TSA?
Yeah, the bag of the new high tech baggage scanner.
Yeah. Which says in different letters as Angel.
Angel ajik. Yes. But it's
but it's like a n a l. And that looks like a big butthole.
That's a big giant thing, right? You see a picture of this.
So it's like a joke that they're making a joke with their
industrial design.
Nobody's making a joke. No jokes. I was making a joke, but
nobody was getting it. No, I
got it the first three times you made the joke. But anyways, no,
I see what you're saying. Because the Aino is a darker
shade of blue. No, no. It's just what your what your brain is
seeing. I see Anna logic. I don't know what you see, you see
ain't no logic. What does that say?
Think it's a huge, beautiful piece of gear. I mean, you look
at it, and it's got like, highlight, it's got little blue
and yellow and red lights that are in it, that thing is over
designed for being pretty
well. And that makes me extremely suspicious. I would be
too,
but it doesn't look like but when you look at the other x ray
machines compared to it, you'd look at them to get louvers and
look like they were put in by a you know, punch press. Just
cheesy.
Yeah, this is the kind of thing no one in the right mind would
accidentally put their dogs through. Like the thing that
thing that they use now is like, throw the ad is like a CAT scan.
I looked out to see if there's some details on the technology
behind it. See what they're actually doing
right to ask it around. And everyone was, you know, I don't
know. I mean, the TSA in Oakland, just a bunch of duds.
And I try to even go through it. You go in that direction. And
they wouldn't let Yeah. Yeah. I mentioned that in the last show.
Yes.
All right. But the event that trip was uneventful or
otherwise,
no, I had it. Well, I was good. I thought it was fun the whole
time because I was I got a parking spot. Yeah, I got a
parking spot in front of the venue for the meetup. I got a
parking spot at the b&b where it stands.
I mean, this is the parking karma. Parking calm
was kicking butt. And there's a number of things at the on the
way back, I see at sea TAC day see tanks got clear.
Yes. Which is a commercial version of the pre check.
Yeah, so I go into the man does not see I was a terrible airport
is very poorly operated. And if anybody you'd like the rental
car shuttle bus was like about a half hour wait to get on it. But
they had to they had this clear area, and you had to go to first
get a pre clear, it's punched into some machine or something.
And then you got to go over the where the pre TSA Pre is, and
which is in a single spot by itself. There's no pre attached
to any of the other lines. So you have to walk all the way to
the end of the airport to go through it. But it's, it's, it's
worth it because the lines were.
So you had a clear a clear card.
No, I have TSA Pre okay, it's just in the same area, but isn't
the same thing. And so I'm there's nobody in the in the
clear line. And so I get to the end of the line where the where
the wind is a big giant thing before you get there, that you
wouldn't be walking to it. There's anybody there but there
was nobody should just go straight. So at the end, there's
a declare thing it says I'm right next to it. It says, Ask
about our free month D offer.
So you say hey, I'd like to ask about my free month.
I asked the TSA person about the free month. And I say who's
there to take your ID? She says I don't know, ask the clear
people. We got nothing to do with them. And I said, Well,
where are they? Is it away at the other end? I said, I'm not
gonna walk over there to ask them why don't they put the sign
over there. And so I bitched about the same thing to the next
guy who was actually amenable this one woman was a dud. But
this guy got this older guy,
or you're just a troublemaker Arusha guy goes, I have a
question that she won't answer.
I didn't say that. But I could have Yeah. So I said, I did the
same routine on him but they won't they move the sign. And he
says yeah, he's guys are idiots. He says I don't know why anybody
would take them up on this offer. I said he had a free
month. He says so what are many goes on? He says it's a gyp. He
says it's 200 bucks a month, a year or something we can do we
if you go to tsa.gov/something you get on the pre system for
$85 a year. He says it's the best deal
how about I'm just an American citizen you fuck off. I'm Put me
on the plane instead of deals and paying paying extra money
paying extra
money say that when there's no line
yeah doesn't matter I hate it the whole thing he's going
on about if you're going to do anything get to pre TSA Pre it's
a better deal and I said well I get it anyways yeah your
frequent flyer so I keep going through the line next thing you
know, I go through and there's a I had a good bit very pretty TSA
woman at the end and they pushed my bag aside like they did on
the way out and and she's got I bought brought back some hand
ground red Russian red wheat from Port Angeles.
This is in your carry out you only have a carry on of course
no, no, no. I
have a luggage and a roller and a Kara. Oh, that's in there. And
she's as she pulls them flowers, she's digging around. She do the
dirty underwear. And she pulled out on us speedos and they she
pulls out a bag the bag of flowers she says I've got to
check this and I said without missing a beat for a quality.
And did she find that humorous? Yes, she did. Oh, okay. That's
good.
Listen, when I finally got near the ER to the plane, I realized
that in my in my in my carry on personal care and you left your
machete? No, there was a bottle of water in there, which they
didn't catch. No.
Amazing. The security theater and the hoops we jump through to
make us believe we're safe is astounding sometimes,
well, you're gonna feel a lot better when the anal logic thing
put in play.
It does. It is kind of foretelling of our future isn't
it? Is like humans are next coming to the aid no logic
machine. Make sure there's nothing in your prison mailbox.
Exactly. Well, thank you for that report. I feel so much
safer knowing that these programs are in place and
functioning just fine. Yeah. Now I sent you an article which was
about San Francisco, Seattle and Austin, which Michael just
talked about now since we're since you still have Seattle
fresh on the brain. This was something that came in on the
Austin American Statesman, our local hometown newspaper.
And if it was it was an article or a short book. I think
it was a giblet tech takeover. A rival of industry giants
remaking downtown Austin, which I think I've been complaining
about for a while. years. Yes. And finally someone's noticing
and written a book about it. Newcomers include Walmart, which
I was not aware of who opened up an engineering hub downtown that
features all the perks you'd find at a young cutting edge
startup, Walmart ATX. In the former Alamo, Drafthouse cinema,
which is fourth in Colorado, they are developing emerging
technologies such as machine learning artificial intelligence
and blockchain for Walmart.
We're blockchain blockchain for
Walmart, baby. Then, of course, we have, obviously, Google we
have face bag, I think the US Army has also opened a tech
center, the army futures command, which see where they
it's just, it's just a whole bunch of tech. Yeah, Tech
head, I read that article and escape kind of make me ill. It's
like, how much tech do we need in the universities? Just like,
what in the universe in general? You mean, or just?
Anyway? Yes, in the universe? I mean, Tech Tech Tech Tech? I
don't know. It just seems I think the I mean, I sense. The
last time we had, well, we've had a number of crashes. It's a
cycle. And San Francisco's always involved in it. And the
last big one, before there was the.com, which was obvious what
was going to happen there. And because then now, because that
coincided with y 2k. Right, another tech debacle tech.
Well, that was old tech, trying to jump on the bandwagon trying
to jump on the money train. Yeah, fix our stuff.
And so
that combination put us into Poland. But it also stretched
out the possibility of another tech bubble. And before that,
there was the multimedia. Bubble. Yeah. Oh, CD. ROMs.
Everybody's gonna be all we're all going to have the CD ROMs
are going to be the information at your fingertips interactive
movies. Yeah. You determine the outcome of these was in
multimedia magazines. Yeah. Philips CDi technology. I
remember it all. I remember it all. Sure.
Well, it's memorable and it can was the bubble burst in San
Francisco was when they started gravis, John John John
Encarta
card and Carta. Remember,
the whole encyclopedia now fits on a shiny disk. Wow.
So when that that era I remember very quick, very, I remember, it
was about 90, it was the late 80s. Maybe didn't end it. Then
it crashed around there. When it started gravitating to San
Francisco, and there was all these shops being
put up. This is when we had I think macro mind director was a
big part of that.
Yeah. And they were in San Francisco, when all these guys
gravitated to San Francisco out of Silicon Valley, which is
where this stuff supposed to be going on. Not San Francisco poop
city, which should be a tourist job. And by the way, this is
another problem. I had the real problem I had with the trip.
That was you can see that Seattle has become the tourist
destination over San Francisco. Oh, because it's not seen as
poop city. Everybody knows about the poop dip. Yeah, I was
grilled about it. But is that true? The stories are telling or
they just Yeah. Seattle has his homeless encampments, too, we
may talk about later. But there's not the poop issue.
Right? They have dirt they can poop and cover it up like a cat.
So the San Francisco is the Nexus verde started becoming the
Nexus and when that happened, it crashed. And I think San
Francisco has become the Nexus again for Twitter. There's no
reason for Twitter to be in San Francisco. These companies,
Twitter, Google, there's no reason for offices in San
Francisco. Salesforce building does not no reason they should
all be down in Redwood City, or Mountain View, right? Oh, God,
the more cosmopolitan, they don't need cosmopolitan they
need Mountain View.
So why are they doing it? Then? Why are they are they
something sick about it? It's like part of the cycle. they
gravitate because they think there's more cosmopolitan and
there's no good restaurants and in Mountain View, there actually
are that but they're all Chinese. There's no good. No
good French restaurants. There's no theater, there's no theater,
the Korean you know that you can go to see a Broadway play The
road show, all this kind of hoity toity bullcrap, right.
It's just there's no reason for it. But they'll do it or there's
better. It's not even cheaper. So deprecated the fact that it
hasn't crashed already. Somehow Trump is doing something he's
sold his soul to the devil or something to keep the economy
from crashing before the elections. Yeah.
So when does so what happens right after the midterms? It's
that one we're all screwed and the price? Yeah, that's true.
But meanwhile, ditch, it's gotten so bad. San Francisco got
filled up. And so they overflows going to Austin, and Seattle,
Seattle, the whole north side of Seattle. According to my son's
friend who is an Amazon person there and I've talked to people
at the meetup about this to Amazon's got something like
45,000 people working in this in Seattle. In this and they've
built these apartment complexes all brand new in the north part
of the town. They're all kind of MC. There's got to be some
McMansion name for them. MC apartments are so many there's
like 1000s of them. It's a mess, that I just call them
dormitories. There is well as might as well. It is a complete
mess. It's not in fact, one guy says to me, you come here a lot.
He says have you been here was last time you were here as I
haven't been to Seattle and hung around for at least over a
years. Did you notice any changes? Because it's not the
same?
Yeah. Well, it's interesting you say that because my daughter
actually I FaceTime with her and whatever Skype and she said that
he had been looking at my my friends in Austin because you
know, she lived with me for a while. He says I see all the
Instagram pictures and it's becoming a gentrified. Douchebag
place what's going on there. So with all this rain we actually
had on Wednesday was, was it Wednesday? No, I'm sorry,
Friday. We had a nice nice day. So I went out and had some lunch
to Werner, which is on the corner of Second Street in
Lavaca. It's a you know, Italian restaurant just outside had some
focaccia bread and the chopped salad. Hey, forget about it.
Forget about I was the only one but it was cool enough to the
temperature wise to sit outside. And I'm just watching. And in
the 40 minutes that I was there. I saw hundreds of the bird bikes
of the scooters. Just just boom boom boom boom. People zipping
back and forth is pretty busy intersection but a lot of them.
Everybody walking with their phones wanted To in their hands
you know just walking in what looking at their phone we have
pretty broad sidewalks here so you can you know, you can walk
on your phone while you're on your phone and still not get hit
by these scooters but as it gets busier we'll see some calamity.
Everybody very young, very young and and then the maybe every 10
minutes, seven minutes a Ferrari or a Maserati or something
coming to the streets. And when when I was when I moved here
downtown at first we still had pickup trucks on the streets.
Yeah, so
the pickup trucks, usually the four door pickup trucks of the
douchebags in NZ ASOs, yes. Hello you doing the endzone
downtown shot
three fighter CNN job. I saw three Ferraris at least in
Seattle area. Gun in it, you know. Yeah.
Now the reason why Austin is popular is well twofold. One is
that cosmopolitan vibe. And of course Austin is not really
Texas it's the the liberal island in smack in the middle of
Texas shunned by many or laughed at if you're outside of Austin.
Where you from Austin? Yeah, now. So you're not from Texas.
Okay. Gotcha. But, so that's very attractive for the overflow
as you said the overflow and you hear that you hear them talking
you can hear that these are mainly people from California
here's some people from New York but certainly not native Texans.
And if face bag alone is thinking of placing 3000 people
downtown have about 700 now doing what ah well that we now
know is unfortunately their business because we know that
it's not customer service because there is none so it's
not people answering the phone saying face bag How am I help
you these are the moderators these are the people that this
is the AI This is the AI of these companies because we have
no state income taxes here so it's very cheap or it's much
cheaper as put it that way to put people in downtown they
bussed them in from outside every morning you can watch the
mini buses boop boop boop boop they'll show up here at the face
bank headquarters. I can see him from my balcony the busting from
from the cheaper area which shows out maybe by the domain
which is that live work place where there's also some tech
companies and offices up there now it's become a complete
douchebag tech not that all these people are douchebags of
course but collectively yeah it's pretty douchey and it's not
really what I liked so much about being in the south or
being in Texas and I think we're just going to see more and more
this is where the actual artificial intelligence lives
here in Austin and they're making it work here because what
else are they doing? They're not they're not high end engineering
jobs I can see I can I hear the conversations I hear where
people are talking about on the street and this and this is
where they're going to have to house them just for Chico of
course Washington state is good for that as well. Same idea with
the income taxes or lack thereof
JC pointed something out interesting because we're
floating around at the end of the meetup and there's just this
like the downtown area first second street is done by George
Pike's market is got bar after bar after bar after bar after
bar filled with people yeah and I said you know I don't remember
there being so many bars that used to be some strip clubs
withdrawal closed down that's way too
dangerous for these new workers
but there's all these bars and he's said that they've sociology
is that it's like they get paid pretty much what they get paid
in California they don't have any state income tax which is a
huge payment in California and the cost of living because of
the prices of real estate which is high for the area is low for
San Francisco. Exactly so they have all this extra money and so
they go they just hang out in bars all the time. So I get
holes is like a Millennials dream come true for worse. Yeah.
Well, what was a larger pack?
What they do seem to like more is the is the chains so flower
child, which is kind of a healthy salad bar Rap Type
place. We've got North Sun if you know about North Italian.
It's all chain stuff. They love it. They love the chain. And the
prices are crazy. So anyway, we got to move out.
Just go it's just it's a plague. Don't just wait for the economy
to collapse. You'll be fine.
Stick it out. Wait for the wait for the Armageddon. It's gonna
be great downtown when the economy collapses and we've got
thieves roaming the streets. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no the They will be everywhere while they're stealing.
There'll be absolutely none of that. But hey, we
got a toilet you could use it No, I'd rather poop on the floor
with all of this tech and you know it's not just tech and I
thought the Army Cyber Command or what's it called again? Are
they calling there?
We got to force
it was something like that. Army futures command What the hell is
that? Army futures command are they trading is this commodity
commodities arm of the army? What is this
particular waste of taxpayers money
army's futures command? We have. Army chooses Austin is home with
a new army futures command. But what is it? What is this army
futures command with which began operations July 1 will lead the
Army's Future Force modernization enterprise. That's
that's a PowerPoint. The command is expected to assess the future
operational environment emerging threats and new technologies in
order to develop and deliver concepts requirements, Future
Force designs and modern match rial solutions to meet our
soldiers wartime needs. Oh, brother. Really? Ah, here. Yeah.
So that's what the futures command is doing here. So we got
a lot of military, you know, we got Bobby Inman down here.
Actually, that leads me into something else because this
purge, or the D platforming as everyone's
like, Yeah, I like that term, too. Yeah, the D platform is
like you've been taking your hands if you've been pants
would like castrated D platformed. D bald, I don't
know, the bald, the bald. D platform. So as you know, the
irritating pieces for me were Apple's like they're not an
advertising based business. Why did they start this? And
Twitter? Why have they not kind of booted Jones off? And so I
did a lot of research, listen to a lot of opinions spoke to as
many people as I could, over the past couple of days. And I do
have some ideas, and some thoughts and some theories.
Which right, well, I have one clip Sure. Which, but I would
rather I play the clip in context. So why don't you go on
with your whatever? Well,
well, first, I'll just play something that I thought was
funny. It's a short clip. This is Oliver Darcy on CNN. And he's
pretty much claiming that the journalist got
the clip by half. Okay, well, I'll play it here then.
And they only actually took action. After weeks of media
pressure after weeks of the media outlets saying, you know,
you say that this would violate your standards. So why is this
still being allowed to be posted? And so Apple was the
first off the bat this morning, or last night? Sorry, with the
removal of his contents. And now we're seeing it shows that
was apple, and then the domino effect. Oliver Darcy, thank you
so much.
Yeah. So yeah, like, you may, you may wish for that to be
true. But no, I don't think so. But it's interesting that the
journalists who are really quite insignificant in the whole
scheme of things, I think, I liked that he's trying to take
some credit.
Well, the point is that other people are making
is,
maybe it's, you know, they can't put some pressure on on people
on things. And they are bragging, at least this guy is
and he's got other evidence. If you look at his tweets, he's
bragging about how the journalists finally get these
guys off the air because they're fake news. And what kind of
journalists This is, just irks me more, probably more than
anything. I
wants to shut up any kind of information.
Yeah, you want to information flow if you're a member of the
press. And meanwhile, and we had evidence of this in two
situations, which you've talked about on the show before. One,
of course, is the WikiLeaks situation, which is like, Oh,
God,
everybody was all for it when it made bush and those guys look
like idiots.
Yeah, but now this gotta go. And then if you remember further
back when Richard Engel and other reporters were asked about
whether Feinstein should release the torture report, right, and
they were asked on the air Oh, no, I don't think so. I don't
think so. What What do you mean, you don't think you're a
journalist? You want this stuff out? Why are you saying no to
this? Unless you're a stooge for the CIA? Yeah.
Well, so I have two theories. One is kind of like the big
overview picture of if you look at everything standing back 100
feet, and the other one is much simpler and maybe much more
correct at least part of what's happening. And what I didn't
realize I'd seen this potential policy proposals for regulation
of social media and technology firms which came from the off
Senator Warner. And I thought that this had come out after the
purge. But as it turns out, this was leaked leaked about a week
before Alex Jones was kicked off. So let's just review that
document briefly. In the opening paragraph, social media and
wider digital communication technology has changed our world
in innumerable ways, they have transformed the way we do
everything from shopping for groceries to growing our small
businesses, and have radically lowered the cost of and barriers
to global climate communication, the American companies behind
these products and services, Facebook, Google, Twitter,
Amazon, Apple, among others, MC one of the most successful
innovative in the world. As such, each of them deserves
enormous recognition for their transformations, etc. But of
course, investigating Russia, we realized that we need to put
some regulations in place. Now this is just a proposal. And the
regulations, that proposal they propose is there's a number of
them. We have to everybody who signs up for social network, you
have to have everything right down to their social security
number had to fall, there's Mark Warner full, full information on
who they are, etc. need to be able to identify and clearly
label bots
not possible to
determine origin of posts and accounts. I mean, all kinds of
various things that would put these companies out of business
is they had to adhere to it in in any meaningful way.
Yeah, no, it's impossible to do any of that.
So as I was looking at that, I'm thinking, Well, did they squeeze
these companies? And when you think about a squeeze, and this
is theory, one, it kind of makes sense that we have not really
seen it, but and we've pretty much forgotten most we learned
about Snowden. But we know that all of the intelligence agencies
were inside the Silicon Valley companies a long time ago.
That's what Snowden told us. I mean, we saw, of course, we
never really saw any code, per se that does all these things.
But we saw a lot of PowerPoints about all these technologies,
and how they could spy on American citizens. In fact,
we're actively doing it. And to the point where Robert Mueller,
the now special counsel had an office at Facebook, where he
just he was in the building his own office, and and I'm not
making this up, you can go to the Time magazine article, where
Zuckerberg is the man that person of the year or thing of
the year reptile of the year. And he's been, you know, there's
like, oh, and Robert Mueller, former FBI Director pops his
head and oh, he was FBI director at the time, but it was Oh, it
wasn't Oh, you're right. He was FBI director. Yeah, I was just
in my office here. I just figured it pop in and say hi,
the guy is just the same. Like
if you go to Boeing, and you go, there's like a big area and the
Boeing headquarters at least before they move to Chicago. And
in there was United Airlines and American Airlines crisis. Yeah,
of course. Yeah. Same thing, same
sector, right. So the same business that the FBI is
interesting sector, that's what face bag is in. So they clearly
already had Silicon Valley in their grasp, and could to a
degree already squeezed them. And we saw a lot of things going
on between the Snowden revelations, and let's just say,
Russian collusion, because I'm gonna have to fast forward to
that, because it really wasn't that much in between. But when
you look at what really happened, is this. This
narrative was started about collusion, collusion, collusion,
because of course, you know, and I just can't get over the fact
that I see that it looked like people were trying to discredit
Trump before and after the election and came up with this
collusion, ruse, even though we know who was really colluding
with foreign agents and the Russians. And they went to face
bag and say, look, we've got all the goods on you, you don't want
us to regulate you, do you because we can really regulate
the shit out of you. We can do anything we want. Now, you need
to find some collusion with Russia. So face bag runs around
and this request actually went back a couple went back and
forth a couple times, you know, you've got to check it out. You
surely there must have been something going on? And what do
they show up with $100,000 worth of ads, some of them bought
after the election, and I haven't forgotten. That's the
genesis of this whole face bag collusion. And I guess just
recently, they said we need some more. Oh, we have 32 more ads
that were found all Yes. They're out it for the midterms. So
that's a squeeze you know that they just didn't get me
something. Then we had the back page incident where we got to
squeeze him a little bit more like can we gotta have you guys
under control. We can't have hookers out there. I don't know
why they couldn't have the hookers advertising. They may
have to deal with other issues that are going on. And then
that thing is never been resolved in my mind. First, it
started with Craig's List. And Craig Newmark who's are Supers.
This is an irony of this. Craig Newmark is a Extreme liberal
progressive. Yep. And he knuckled under at the drop of a
hat. All right. Now you have to get rid of all personals there's
nobody none you did coded where it coded to God, right just like
instantly and then to read book was another one of these
operations and AIG went down immediately thereafter. And then
back then, which Backpage just stayed around for a year or two.
And then for some reason, out of the blue, they fast to go, yeah.
And there were a couple old farts run in that.
And bear in mind, please, that the money is important. I mean,
these deals that there's a there's over a billion dollars
worth of government deals that they have with Google, we know
Amazon has a huge intelligence deal for their cloud hosting
Microsoft's and everybody, everybody's involved one way or
the other. And so then you get to the obvious we have the
midterms coming up. And when Alex Jones and people who feed
off of him, you know, technically they will be called
parasites if you looked at in the natural world, but they're
just people who feed off of his ideas. And his thinking. We've,
I've certainly learned lots of stuff that he was that he said
this a lot of stuff he's been right about. So he his, his
audience is
much dry about the frogs.
Exactly. I mean, he
do he presents it like a maniac, right, instead of our
presentation, which was a very detailed situation with this
addressee.
We're chemists. So it makes a difference
shipper, Kevin.
So I was like, we got the midterms coming up, this guy is
making too much noise. It's too annoying. And the call goes out
in the middle of the night. Now for for Apple, the call may have
been a little different. Now Apple also has hundreds of
millions of dollars of deals with the government intelligence
agencies all kinds of there's a lot going on that we don't know
about. Or there's not been highly publicized. But they have
there's a lot of collusion. And maybe the conversation went
something like this, Hey, look, you know, you've got this
Chinese company that you're partnered with so that you're
now going to store all the iCloud encryption keys on
Chinese company servers in China. Yeah, we kind of let you
go with that. But I think we're going to squeeze you a little
bit Tom Collins unless you kick Jones off. So you got to kick
Jones off, which would explain why they only did exactly what
they were asked, which is kick them off your podcast, your
iTunes platform, which includes podcasts and kick them off
there. And they didn't kick them off the app store because no one
asked that would kind of explain why why that happened that way.
Same goes for Google. And and I think they might may have only
been asked to just obfuscate in search results is very funny. If
you go to the Google Play store and you look for the Infowars
app, you see that or you see the tops the top four apps of top 10
apps, it goes 12456789 10. Number three is Infowars. And
they've literally taken the number three out of the top 10
is how stupid this is. So that is something that they've been
forced to do something no one had all the bases covered of
room deplatforming in its entirety. As a side note, if I
may, about something I didn't realize about the iTunes
removal. So of course in the in the podcasting app, and in
iTunes itself both, you can add a podcast URL, and you can it
functions perfectly fine as a pod catching device. However,
what I did not realize I'm a little pissed about this is that
most podcast apps out there today, including overcast
including what's the one that NPR just bought Pocket Casts,
they use an API from Apple for the directory. So when removed
from the Apple directory, you also don't show up in most of
the other large podcasting apps. And the reason I particularly
posted this is because I gave them the entire directory to
start with. And the I said just be a good steward of it and just
leave people in there. And so ultimately, you know, now 14
years later, they take Jones out and whatever. But a stupid
developers have jumped on this bandwagon and then have, I
think, really done themselves and their users a huge
disservice by not creating an alternative podcast directory,
which I'm considering I'm thinking of starting it
tomorrow, I know exactly how to do it. It's to be open source,
indestructible. Anyone would be able to access it, you know, it
wouldn't cost anybody a lot of money to maintain. It's very
simple to do it. It was called iPod or you can go look what we
did. It was all distributed directories. I'm thinking of
doing that again. But also that's kind of a travesty that
they if you don't get it done before the elections it will
matter because they'll be boldest There's going to be null
and void.
Oh, it's all going back. I totally agree with you, but
there's a different reason for that. Okay. Okay, so just to
finish up the the last bit there, we need to get Alex Jones
off, at least for the midterms. Yeah, you know, maybe even said,
Yeah, and we can let them slip in later on. It's not a big
deal. But if you don't let me just remind you, look, I have
this. I have these this proposed legislation. You don't want me
to mess with you. That's what was probably said to everybody
else. The Apple thing may have been some veiled threat about
their Chinese deal.
Yeah. And dude, you got to remember that none of these
people were, you know, the Zuckerberg is the Tom Collins.
None of these people were fans of Alex Jones. It's not like
they're a bunch of Right. Or I'm sorry, conservatives. They're
all Silicon Valley. lefties at the eye? Yeah. Great. So do you
want us to do exactly now. So
and that still may be part of of how this is happening. But I
think there's something more sinister behind the scenes and
this comes back to Austin. Alex Jones is in Austin, the Alex
Jones started, what is it now, but 19 years ago, maybe 18 years
ago. And there were two things that happen. One, he started
with Roger Stone, Roger Stone, who at the time was Paul have a
part of Manafort, Blackstone and and, Paul, what is it, Paul
Manafort. And what did the big lie the one actually the
quintessential lobbying group who started the sector, and
Roger Stone was a part of that with Paul Manafort and with two
other guys. And he was very, very, very connected. At the
same time, there was a company started here in Austin called
Stratfor, and a lot of people have have surmised over the
years that Alex Jones was really an intelligent shill from
Stratfor strat for is this think tank slash intelligence type
operation?
I had subscribed for a couple of years to their reports. Well,
you tell me what your what your feeling was about them?
Well, first of all, I'm not subscribing anymore, because I
found that their reports in terms of the actual intelligence
intelligence analysis is not as good as ours.
Yeah, gotcha.
It's very shallow, it's kind of is sometimes they have a
different angle on things, but it's pretty much it's pretty
much well, it's a news analysis is a little more extensive than
our coverage. I mean, they go into all kinds of stuff. They
like to really do a lot of stuff. They'd go into Africa and
all the stuff that's going on on a very subtle basis and, and you
can get some briefings you want to catch up, you're in some
agency or group or somebody you need to know a lot about Sudan,
South Sudan, what's going on in South Sudan now? They're your
guide that give you a briefing. That is worthwhile right
briefing, but not the deconstruction is shallow. I
agree. Yeah. Because I've also used to look at Stratfor stuff
when, when I first moved to Austin, so there's a coincidence
there when Info Wars started in Austin and Stratfor started in
Austin. And at the same time, we have Roger Stone, who really
came into the Alex Jones, sphere of influence around that time,
if you go back and look at it, and he was Alex Jones, his
connection to a lot of entities and people in Washington. So now
to have not only Alex Jones, D platformed. But also Roger Stone
has been under pressure and he's now being put in there trying to
not shut him off as well. And so here's some thinking that I've
been given by people friendly to the show. When intelligence
agencies when Stratfor is pure is purely from CIA, military
intelligence, and it's kind of a crossover, I guess, but there's
maybe more CIA than then Mia and dia. Yeah, well, yes, dia, but
I'm using a collective military intelligence is missing in
action. To me, I meant military intelligence, that would be the
DIA but military intelligence a little broader than just the
DIA. And that's where the overlap occurs. The thinking is
that to have you know, maybe even your classic dialectic, or
whatever the hell they call it, to have kind of a balance of the
information that Stratfor was creating, Alex Jones was put in
place because you always want that you want people to believe
something you give the the point counterpoint. So maybe an I
don't know, but let's just say Stratford is there to create
shallow little kind of ideas of what's going on and Alex Jones
had deeper information and would tell masses of people I'm sure
that Alex Jones has been an intelligence asset for decades.
Just to get information out, he has his own rants and his own
things. But let's just look at the facts. He's got a big
organization, I've seen it, he's he has a big warehouse. But it's
not that big to maintain 73 people full time. So I don't
know where he gets his money from. But I just find, you know,
I know kind of the margins on boner pills is not huge. He's
that he's not making them he's white labeling them. So the
margins are pretty thin on that stuff. So this would I believe
it looks if we just take that into account, that there's been
these kind of two elements. And I think Jones has overtaken any
influence Stratford had that balance may be a little bit less
than it was before. But let's just for the sake of argument,
say those two are created at the same time, not without
coincidence. What's happening right now. And the reason why
Twitter is not on this bandwagon is this is a stress test. And
the stress test is what happens when we shut down this channel.
Will people take action? What kind of action will they take?
How far will the internet go? What can we manipulate? It's a
stress test of us really have the entirety of alternative
media, what the what can the internet do? What is the
strength? What is its power? In this day and age, certainly
against the Washington politicians established?
organizations established, you know, the way things are done?
And you know, the answer, I don't know, if we've actually
I'm probably not enough, probably dumb, we're not going
to do anything. We're not taken to the streets, like we're just
gonna yell a little bit. And then after the elections, the
stress will be relieved, and it will go right back to normal.
Jones will come back on as we've predicted, but I think this what
we're seeing here is nothing more than a stress test, just to
see how powerful the internet is.
But you said you had two theories.
The first one is the political squeeze. The second one is that
the political squeeze is
Don't you think they're both the same? Yes. But it's it's
subordinated to the stress test. It's part of the stress test.
But it's subordinated to the actual meaning for this tape.
I didn't Yeah, your stress testing is a little beyond. It's
definitely not a comms razor. I kind of like the stress test. I
say something funny to people who I talked to about this, who
gave me this information, said think outcomes razor, they
actually said this is this is our comms razor. That's very
interesting that you said it's not I like that. I'm not saying
you're wrong. I'm not saying I'm not saying Granger
is that is that Apple, not just one day, somebody in the company
decided that they should get rid of this guy because you like an
individual did. Nobody came and told anyone to do anything. And
they they just decided to do it out of the blue. Because they
were Democrats and they were working in Cupertino. And they
didn't like what's going on. So they just cut him off. And then
and then the rest of it fell into place accidentally because
these other guys are wimps. So they just did it. And that's all
comes razor just as nothing's really to it. There's no scheme,
there's no pressure, there's nothing. So I don't know how
anyone could see that. That convoluted, but reasonable
explanation is och comes razor.
Well, maybe it depends on what kind of beard you got to shave.
Now, I would say there's a joke in there somewhere. I try I'm
going to say that I like the part one because there's a lot
of politics going on. And I'm Washington's behind most of it.
And there's and so is this are the intelligence agencies. So
there's something going on there. And I can see them doing
a deal with Apple. And then coincidentally even before they
have to do anything these other companies the other companies
just knuckle under. Oh, yeah. This domino effect for sure. And
that would be Yeah,
I don't think the CIA gives a crap about MailChimp. I don't
think so.
No, I don't think anybody said to people that use it and I
don't know what MailChimp is thinking.
That's just that's Silicon Valley virtue signaling. That's
just that's what they do.
Yes, yeah. Yeah. But I this is definitely and I don't use it in
terms of a stress test. Which is this part two part do I don't
know. I just it's just unless they I mean, they have been
pulling the plug on some other people in the on and off or just
short periods of time and including that black woman who's
so so interesting and I don't know. I don't I just don't see
it as being well what I'd love to wait there's too much you can
mister master control. All involved here says, I just don't
see it. I mean, it's possible but personally, I don't I'm not
into the idea.
Okay, let's all monitor all signs for stress test and you
monitor for political purge. I mean, that's that's a I think we
both agree on one thing. He will come back this will end no
matter no matter which way you look at it. Jones will get
noticed put back on. Yeah, I agree. Of course, it
could also have a bad it could backfire. I mean, the thing that
all the things has been going on with this regarding Trump. Let's
start with everything they've dead the let's call them the
elites or the it's not the dark state, it is not that dark.
Everything they've done is worked out to be because of the
nature of the sociology of today's world has worked against
them. The it's the news media who does not like Trump, and we
heard the SEMA rehearse and this last thing going on about how
the various newspapers and TV outlets that we monitor closely.
He even says and he's a, you know, a pretty objective
journalist as they just hate Trump. And they're the ones who
got Trump elected. Yes. And they know they got Trump elected, but
they don't know what to do about it. And to this day, they still
don't know what to do about it because they can't stop
obsessing about Trump. They write about him constantly. They
keep his name in the news. They have phony columns like this is
Jennifer Rubin who I just saw recently on some MSNBC thing
they called her the conservative blogger, the conservative
columnist, she has a right or left wing progressive to the to
the enth degree right but you know, they tried to so they're
trying to Buffalo the public with this kind of thing. It's
like so they showed in the beginning of the campaign
somebody calculated they gave the the Media gave him over $1
billion worth of airtime for free. Yeah. Which is how he
managed to get didn't hurt because it came to follow him
around like is some sort of a clown act and Huffington Post
put them in the entertainment section?
That's right. Yeah, we'll always keep them in the entertainment
section does not believe belong in news or politics.
And so they so everyone was obsessing on this guy, and to
the point where they're giving him nothing but publicity and
people would get rewarded perk up their ears, Trump Yeah, I've
heard of that guy. What and then they maybe catch one of his
little spiels. And it's kind of appealing because he's a very
was a populist idealist. And it's, they just started voters.
They're tired coming out of the woodwork to vote for this guy
because of all the free publicity. And these get and the
news media is beside themselves because they keep doing it. They
can't stop it. It's almost like a curse.
I hate I hate the mainstream media and I hate the statesman.
I did that interview. As we discussed, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
So you know, I made sure that I said, look, it's the show is the
no agenda show. Oh, yeah. I'm credited at minimum with CO
inventing podcasting, which is what you're talking about. Yeah.
Okay. So how do I show up in this article about which is
complete bullshit. Alex Jones has been doing this for a long
time, said Adam curry, a former host on MTV and longtime podcast
personality in Austin. Fuck you, Austin statesman.
Then they give you Oh, yeah.
Former hosts on MTV, longtime podcast personality in Austin.
And then, you know, some other bull crap in there. I'm already
done reading. This disappointing. It's
disappointing. I mean, even Jay,
spelled right, as a curry even
just mentioned my show. Is that too much to ask for?
Is it CU? RR IE? Yeah, that would have been the topper.
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. That guy probably listened to your
show. And he's no,
he's never listened to the show that he was 12 years old. Never
listened to the show.
No, I'm not talking about you V. The MTV show to him. But no,
yes.
This guy was 12 years old who interviewed me when asked
questions. But now that I know he's very specific questions
about maintaining a business model through donations? I don't
think I don't think he's ever heard our show. But doesn't
matter. I said could you please make sure you put in there the
host of the no agenda show. And oh, by the way, as I said all
these podcast questions, and I said I know you know I didn't
like invented it. Yeah. Why don't you put that in there? I'm
guessing he put it in there. Yeah, maybe got taken out by the
editor here, right? Possible.
We don't need to be plugging this
was probably Nicole cobbler. The CO writer on this or CO credit
on this piece. Could be mister she's a hater. She could be,
she could be a hater. Well anyway, so the point is, is that
all this stuff backfires everything they do with
backfires? I think this Alex Jones thing is going to
backfire, just like everything else they've done.
But when you say competence, what do you mean, when you say
backfire? It
means in other words, instead of getting him out of the way, so
they can push their 2016 election agenda and get a bunch
of Democrat progressives in they're going to irksome enough
people that they get to the Republicans have a red wave to
maybe windy to pick up a couple of seats in the house. By the
way, if the Democrats don't flip the house, this whole thing is a
fiasco. Yeah.
I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't
know. I don't care as long as this material for the show.
I don't care. I don't care. And with that,
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you, John. Where the C stands for care. He does not divorce.
I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, you stole a little bit
more.
Well, I use I just say you can do a whole bunch of in the
morning stuff while you're looking for your spreadsheet
that usually helps.
In the morning. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, in the morning, you
misread Korean ships to see boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water. And all the games and nights out there.
Thank you. And in the morning to the troll room had no agenda
stream.com I had my eyes closed or most of what and when I was
talking, which I tend to do so I haven't seen much of your troll
room. But I'm looking at you now wave at me. I'm waving. And in
the morning to Mike Riley, who came in with the artwork for
episode 1058. We titled that colorism. And this was something
that was we both liked it there were a number of pieces we
looked at. But this was the no agenda in the Info Wars letter
type and logo and kerning. Somehow it just had the right
vibe to it for that particular show for the things we discussed
on that episode. For that point in time. It kind of showed our
solidarity.
I have to admit I didn't quite I didn't get it initially.
Because you're not familiar with the Infowars logo as we here in
Austin are It's on every every lamppost has lots lots of info
war stickers around. Yeah. Yep. So anyway, have our
stickers around puts the no agenda stickers up people. And
we want
to thank Mike Riley and all of the artists who always submit to
no agenda art generated.com And help us keep our show extremely
relevant. And as long as we are listed in the directory. It's
it's an eye catcher every single time you look at the what's hot,
what's new, when we release a new episode, we're usually
immediately in the what's hot a new category for news because of
the amount of downloads that take place simultaneously. And
it helps it really does and we appreciate it. No agenda art
generator.com. Thank you. All right. Well,
we do have a few people who think that we had a I got I want
to do we're gonna do three segments today because I want to
do the meetup separately. Oh,
and when did you want to do the meetup segment?
I think I'll do it next month. Or I could do it right after
this segment. But there are one to look at the meetup list. Why
don't you just do it and then do it now and then we'll go into
the other donations to do it all in one go.
Okay. Okay. We do the meetups to you right now. All right, with
the meetup. I've got 123
segments. I gotta talk to affiliates. I have ad breaks to
move around. You can't just do that. Well,
it was in the memo. I didn't get the memo. Yet. He was attached
to
it did not say anything about a separate segment. Says Seattle
meetup notes. Yeah.
And at the beginning he says for this upcoming show. I want to
read the separately from the normal donation segments to
boost interest in meetups.
So I thought that was Eric writing that I'm like, I'm
ignoring him. This was your note? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I
didn't realize that. I look like I don't need direction from
Eric. I'm just ignoring anything he has to say. All right. What
do you want it however you want?
Well, the point is, is that we did have a number of donations
from the meet up and I want to do those first and then we'll go
into the other stuff. So starting off we got Sir Andrew
Bentley snoops, Magoo from Tacoma. sent in $333.33 Yeah, he
has a note please accept this donation in person show my
appreciation for all the great work you guys did presented in
person by so happened to be in the Seattle meetup was my
schedule I was scheduled to be a wouldn't have done This except
no he's in Colorado where they get this thing they have no
idea. It came in an envelope however in my absence all my
three children Jackie will attend the icy kids gave it
Gotcha. Brunette get not being able to meet anybody at all.
We're celebrating our 30th wedding anniversary this year as
well. So congratulations Keep up the good work 333 33 A Sir
Michael black neither the dude's name Ben in Bothell 550 $5.55.
Zach Smith $65. And he has a note, but this is the one that's
kind of weird. This is a note which a very long and over and I
had JC edited down to just the important part, which is his
plea. I like
how the whole family is working once again. Okay, it happens.
I would be like a three page note. There's like two
sentences. Like
thank you for your courage.
They recurse I would be this guy. I figured I feel felt bad
about this. I'd be internally grateful if you could tell her
this is a NEO class, a NEO class class, I guess. I would be
eternally grateful if you could tell her that her boyfriend Zack
Smith in Seattle loves her dearly and is waiting patiently
for her return. Oh boy. She kind of they turned each other under
the show or something and this guy went nuts for this girl and
so I have they are they have they've been together are they a
couple of belongs
in Long's long story.
Okay, so And the final thing is this is a plea. A plea Okay. All
right. Think about it. Think about a girl how many no agenda
producers are you going to meet in your life?
Salty hash $555. Nice. He writes for sanity and hilarity
requests. He needs a plug for is a some kind of plug for Nick the
rat.
Okay. Listen to nick the rat from the sewer. Wednesday's on
no agenda. stream.com.
There you go. And then he wants Oh my god. Can you see that
juice?
Yeah, okay, anything else? Do we need karmas with that, or isn't
that karma? Oh my gosh. Can you see that juice?
You've got karma.
Boom. Shakalaka. Then came when eau
de Mer de Mary Paul Stewart $100. Yeah.
Did you send a little note in that fell on the floor. I wanted
to read it because it was cute. That's it like a card. Thank you
for the sanity, the media assassinations, and they and the
fan. And this fan has been a listener since number one that
she says What a ride.
Yeah, thank you for being in the back seat.
And now we have an anonymous pa producer from the Pacific
Northwest for 90 bucks. And he actually wrote a bunch of
different things and nothing we need to deal with. Thank you for
the show. A very great show. And it's a card and the node. And
congratulations to me. Me and Me for 30 Thank you, Chris. Sunberg
night of the vortex state.
Oh, you met him? Yeah, he
was there. Yeah, he's
a chopper pilot. Oh,
I forgot that.
Yeah, yeah, it's a lawyer. I think by day chopper pilot.
Nice guy. Yeah. Oh, cool.
That's awesome. Rotary guys are always kind of nice
to defy, but you'd like it. You're almost as nice as a
filmer
same category. Oh, man. Oh, no, I gotta play the foamer go ahead
read the next one. I'll find a former
Ryan McConnell. False city Washington 333 33. Add to the
knighting list. Hopefully he's on there as the night of Twin
Peaks.
Let me check here in a second.
You're checking out read the note. Oh my god
yeah, I have Ryan on there.
By the way, people comment on that clip more than any it's
pretty damn good love. It is pretty good. Do is thanks for
the incredible show you two are worth your weight in salt. With
this donation I'll join the roundtable to those who have not
donated people enjoy getting paid for what they do chip in.
Chip in everybody. Producers who
precede me thank you for keeping these two going to the post show
producers thank you for your inspiration to keep keep getting
me to do my own thing to future donations. Thank you for your
help. Jingle request karma for everyone in the collective.
That's it. Yeah. Okay.
If you've got karma
DS there I'll read to you after the show. Rob Barnaby Magruder
$132 This was like put aside because the read those a very
short note I want to read that show my wife Jennifer called me
out as a douchebag but also request baby making karma here's
a check to get a D douching.
Oops. You spent d do
to make sure that the baby making karma was directed at me.
Thank you for keeping us all sane. Yes,
thank you. Good luck with that.
Again the karma no of course. Baby making karma.
You've got karma.
Matt and not an ALA and Rocky Ridge Montana. Okay to read he
says you want these he just gave us the answer. Jingle is a
banger is better than anything Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg put out
in their prime he also sent us 210 ruble coins one for each of
us. Thank you comrade. Good to remember the home the homeland.
does good to Peter. Good hills. $200. I think there's a note
I'll read it and get the dig it up to the email. And he gets the
issue of being on the knighting list on Peter on there some
sort?
Let me see. Yes, we have. It's Peter chefs. QI chef ski, and
it'd be champion of the Sir Peter champion of the free
society.
I think that is him. Yes. Keith Carlisle, Centralia $100. Answer
Danis $100. Was son miles that Happy Birthday belated birthday
for August 5. I hope he's on there. So yes, miles
a second. It was a sir Dennis son miles. Okay. That was
incorrect on the spreadsheet? No, son miles.
Okay. All right. Now we have a Nam gonna go to the spreadsheet?
Well, first of
all, let me let me thank everybody who came first. So
anyone who came to the meetup that's fantastic by itself.
Donations are always appreciated. And big news. The
Texas meetup in Austin will take place on Saturday, October 6.
You reading it down? To over six? Yep. Saturday, October 6
Big meetup in Austin, Texas.
To this would be the Texas meetup. The Texas Meetup is what
it will be. Yeah. October 6. Okay. In Austin, I would say
Oklahoma tech solo is pretty far.
I don't think so. Why don't you arrange your own meetups and
then we'll take care of mine.
You don't want to people from Oklahoma coming?
Yes, of course. But it's going to be an Austin.
Yeah, no, I'm sure I'm saying I'm saying it's got to you got
to spread the word out to Oklahoma, Arkansas
everywhere. Yeah, yeah.
Maryland, Maryland. Yes,
yes. Everywhere. All right. Oh, let's
just be okay. Good. All right. Onward, we got to one executive
producer and two associates from the spreadsheet. So I think we
can jam these together. All right, sir. Francis of SR. Q vi
count of Southwest Florida comes in with 1234500 saving the day.
Yeah. Beautiful, huge donation.
Thank you very much. Is this his annual donation? Well, it may be
now.
Thanks to John Amin for their Pearl anniver or congrats on the
pearl anniversary John, I hope the wine exceeded your
expectations at the celebration dinner. I just placed my second
you know what I forgot to do. I did go through all this trouble.
And I don't do the simple zooming by one 50% So I can
scroll back and forth and read the note because it goes off
screen unless I do this particular thing. NARRATION I
just placed my second annual is still goes off the screen is
something of the court conics guard winery in Napa. So I have
three balls for all of the judge Chardonnay coming one of the
best in the planet. I assume you've heard of them. Yeah, it's
pretty well known out here. What a wonderful summer of
deconstruction I would assume that there were endless piles of
M five M poop everywhere in human poop do and you guys are
keeping the national M five M poop map updated for us twice
weekly. So for that I say a big thanks to you both and please
keep it up so we can all stay sane. I would like a full
serving of the Al Sharpton montage today please and some
cookies and Vika at the roundtable. yours truly Sir
Francis of sr que vi counter southwest Florida resist.
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the race then co author of Hoover's lead singer Bono, Fran
Drescher singer noi Weaver suspect, Joe Haas and I have
Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh, the show rush Lombard
hosts Supreme Court Justice Sonia Santa Maya is Mike is Mike
McCurry yesterday and Tony and Tony Kalia, Kim Kardashian and
the Republican candidates both Carrie roe and Ben Ghazi we rank
behind locked v r la vita first. Kazakhstan Kazakhstan two
college students in Beijing is getting lunch at Chipotle in
Iowa Bane is appropriate the GOP is tax day giveaway to
millionaires Why was traffic problems email sent the
environmental projection agency and what sequestration has done
oh my god
never tires for some reason
it's worse because it's just so it's dance with humor. Yeah. Tor
tours
tour tours with favorite environmental objection agency
projection projection agency millions the guy makes
yeah from MSNBC because he's got something on somebody let's say
MSNBC actually think that guy Oh, this guy's the best
hey, you know you know that this is the The Daily Beast is coming
with a big export day on more sex crimes and me hashtag me to
crap going on at ms at NBC NBC News in particular. Yeah, in
that interesting. Yeah, well, I can't wait I can't wait for it.
That's Roger Stone at work. We'll see. And there the target.
I wouldn't want to be working there. Simon Lutz $200 I fell is
your great work and Adam just recent turned on Bitcoin
motivated me to do it. We know had to meet up kind of anonymous
character there. gave us some money and he is a Bitcoin
multimillionaire. He says you know, I decided not to listen to
your advice. says to me, apparently this when Bitcoin was
like 17 bucks. Yeah. And he held on to it. You know, he would do
better. He started a mining operation early on. might like
100 coins or more. Wow. He says at one time one year and he's in
the Seattle area. He moved out and bought a big ranch. Yeah. He
says at one time he had so many servers running in the house.
Yeah. That he didn't need heat during the winter. Fan. Fluid
all over the place. Wow. Yeah. Well, I'm
very happy. He didn't listen to us.
Yeah, he had like, I guess 50 or 60 servers go into my town. Full
time mining.
I love stories like that good work. Great. So work Simon
for him. Takes is pretty funny. Takes it does it mean? Well, I
have to bet Tuesday, Ben we're just trying to do some stuff
like they were they never really took it too seriously is that
this guy did takes a great amount of courage to reconsider
things and acknowledge that you may have been wrong, especially
after mocking it. That happens. Looking forward to mock the
mocking part is just fun. Yeah,
we mock everything. And that's mainly to make you feel better
at the end of the show. I mean, don't take anything too
seriously in life.
Yeah, I guess we're better than the average bear when it comes
to accuracy. Looking forward to donating in a much more seamless
way with Bitcoin in the future. Shout out to crypto Twitter and
please call out Patrick as a douchebag. Oh, and for any
German speaking listeners interested in Bitcoin? I'm
putting together a website to introduce people to the topic.
Yeah, where were you six years ago? You can find it under block
info.ch Keep up the great work and thank you for your great
content. Great content you provide oh he's it's key. This
is Simon Lutz
yes and Switzerland normally Switzerland. Thank you very much
Simon. Appreciate that. Very nice.
Nicholas Cox in Leesburg, Virginia beer second Associate
Executive producer for the same $200 donation I wanted to make
this donation he writes on my behalf of my brother Matt sees
broke is a broke ass millennial who has been uplifted by your
podcast. Please throw him some job karma and use the jingles.
Obama you're going to be dead. But who said that I
think it means you might die is what I think
Obama's saying you're gonna die by an Rand mac and cheese
and then a jobs karma but hold on
before you do the job karma after your report is very
important one of the guys do name Bennett did at the meet up
he said he's the one who specifically asked for all Trump
jobs karma and was out of work for two years.
And then let me guess described
a whole series of coincidences This is make no sense except for
the Trump jobs karma. Do not use it. Do not use do not use it.
Yeah, no, do not yet. No, do not use it. Do not use the Trump job
as karma. It is a it has the opposite of Fanti
karma really. 20 says, Oh, I misunderstood so he had got
Trump's jobs, karma and then had two years of mishaps happening.
Yeah. He asked for all Trump.
Oh, well, I'm gonna remove it from the lineup in that case.
That's no good. He
says he also says that the combinate he doesn't know if the
combination Trump Pelosi Yeah, why risk it? Yes. Why risk is
got a good chance. They're gone. You might not.
Mac and cheese, mac and cheese by Iran. Jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma?
Yeah, I thought that was very interesting. Yeah. All right. So
that's it. Yeah, that's it. That'll be it for today's show.
1059 Oh, yes,
Dan, thank you very much. Seattle meetup donors. You
definitely helped us for today's episode. And of course, we had
great executive producer to Associate Executive producers
who now can add this to their list of credits as executive or
Associate Executive Producer of the no agenda Show episode 105
Niner. And we thank you for your courage of course and yes.
And we're going to spin off the guy some of the meet up into
executive and social executive.
We'll put them in the correct categories. Exactly. And
remember, we have another show coming up on Thursday to
borak.org/and A you
can take a lot of what you heard this morning and you can use it
on your friends and colleagues propagate our formula is this we
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Hey, alrighty. And now back to your regularly scheduled
program.
Got a couple of cents you brought up Sharpton in do we
play this clip before? I don't think so. This is the Sharpton
lounge act story now. We just go straight straight since you
brought you brought Sharpton into it. So I'm gonna I want to
play this. This is his explanation as to why Trump is
is is a sure failure. And he doesn't seem to realize that
Trump plays a pretty big audiences in a pretty big room.
But here he goes.
Welcome to politics nation coming to you today. from
Houston, Texas. Later today, I'm leading a rally in Florida
against the states outrageous Stand Your Ground law. More on
that in a moment. But first, the continued moves by the President
to incite his base again. At a rally last night in Ohio,
President Trump continued to attack the media, the Democrats,
the special counsel investigating the 2016 election.
And yes, black people talking about this blue wave? I don't
think so. I don't think so. Maxine Waters is leading.
Maxine. She's a real beauty. Maxine a seriously low IQ
person. Maxine Waters. George, let me tell you about the spin
that the President is doing here and why I think his act will not
work even on his own base. I remember when I was a young
civil rights activist, younger civil rights activists James
Brown The Godfather, so I raised my youth group. And one day I
went to Las Vegas with him. He told me Reverend, there are
those that are lounge Jack's, they work in the lounge where
they serve drinks and they have to compete with the noise and
the drinks and the conversation. But then when you make it is
when you play in the big room, the inside room on the big
stage. That's where you have to have a better act. That's where
people sit and spend a lot of money eating dinner with their
wives and their families and want and a performance. Donald
Trump is allowed yet he continues to do a lounge that it
will wear thin, and even his base will get tired of being
treated like people just lounging around intoxicated.
Okay, what an analogy. That is very interesting.
I will say that my one experience with James Brown, I
have one. Yeah. Just you know, why would he be hanging out with
Reverend owl? That doesn't surprise me. And this was one
actually I was hanging out with Dan Hartman and Charlie
midnight, who wrote a lot of the living what they wrote the
living in America, and they produce that album. And so they
were in the studio with James Brown and I was I was there I
came by and let me tell you no alcohol, no swearing, no smoking
no nothing he was buttoned down Shut up be very very polite
around James Brown. Very the religious thing big with him
very, very big. So that they were hanging out I can think is
possible. But yeah, the analogy is low. Very strange.
I will say this, I did run into again at the meetup chat with a
couple of
I gotta write that down. That's another one from my book. I
gotta write these stories down one day.
I guess you have to write these stories down now. They're all
good stories now. A lot of insight that people wouldn't nor
I always knew it was kind of strict but I didn't know he was
like a religious nut. We had a lot to discuss with just a group
of guys you know the number of people that have seen an entire
Trump speech which is hours an hour long speech now is there's
only a few a lot of people who've seen the snippets and so
everybody including myself recommends that you see the
entire speech Yeah, because it's an act it's a it's a it's not
formatted. It's not out loud Jack No,
no it's it's reasonable production I think with these
with the Air Force One and the music is pretty big stage. It's
pretty it's a pretty big production not quite your lounge
act.
Yeah. And it's worth that but you want to see the whole one
I'm and we've talked about this on the show before when he
started off he's doing about 35 minutes to 40 minutes may be
names are getting repetitious in the last few minutes. But
currently, he does a complete hour of material and it's paksa
man because it's you know it's a good if you haven't seen him or
her do one of these things you get a kick out of it.
Yeah, when I enjoyed it when I saw it in phase two went live
you went to the life for fete nom Yeah. Yeah, normally seen
him on tape there on now the whole live on.
It was a good vibe. Actually. It was okay. Yeah. All right. Well,
one of our oldest I was gonna say one of our oldest stingers,
jingles etc. On this show that we've had for pretty much I want
to say the almost the full decade is this one.
Isn't got the clip to Oh,
you have a clip even better. I was just going to read the
story.
Don't read the story. Got your Monsanto roundup verdict.
Dwayne Johnson, a 46 year old father of three doesn't have
long to live his doctors say he claims his cancer non Hodgkins
lymphoma was caused by the Monsanto weed killer Roundup, in
what is regarded as a precedent setting case. A jury in San
Francisco agreed.
Did you find by clear and convincing evidence that
Monsanto acted with malice or oppression in the conduct upon
which you base your finding of liability in favor of Mr.
Johnson? Answer? Yes.
In total, the jury awarded Johnson nearly $290 million in
damages. This case has been very
hard. It's been fought long. It took a lot of years to get here.
The jury
heard evidence that Monsanto knew roundup was dangerous and
could cause cancer, but hid that fact from consumers. The trial
attracted prominent environmental activists,
including the singer Neil Young, and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
and I'm so glad this year you held them accountable. Johnson
had
worked as a groundskeeper for a school district in the San
Francisco Bay Area. He claimed to us
you know, it's really horrible. and people who are against
Monsanto and we've been very, very staunchly against them for
many, many years. It's kind of sad when the only real
recognizable name you have is the Kennedy who has no voice.
You know, I mean, that's our spokes whole can understand
them. It's kind of sad though. I feel young
and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
and I'm so glad this helped them.
Yeah, Monsanto bad what Robert just say.
Johnson had worked as a groundskeeper for a school
district in the San Francisco Bay Area. He claimed to use
Monsanto's weed killer up to 30 times a year, spraying hundreds
of gallons of it. During the trial, Monsanto's attorneys
argued, there was no evidence roundup causes cancer. And after
the verdict, Monsanto vice president Scott Partridge
insisted glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup is safe.
It doesn't change the overwhelming scientific evidence
and the 40 years of safe use of glyphosate around the world. But
Johnson's lawyer urged the jurors to hold Monsanto liable
and punish them with a verdict that would, as he put it, it
actually
changes the world thing, I'm glad to be here to be able to
help with a clause is way bigger than me.
Dwayne Johnson's case was separated from some 5000 others
waiting to make a similar claim against Monsanto, he was allowed
to go first, because of the advanced stage of his disease,
and the possibility he wouldn't live to see a verdict. So
still good jingle. Couple of things. One, at the beginning of
the report, they mentioned that it's that the guy was or that
they had evidence to show that Monsanto knew it was dangerous.
And then from that point on, it was no evidence. He never
mentioned what his evidence was, never talked about it in the
very end, CEO, and everybody in between goes on and we visit
proven over 40 years, we're going to appeal. Yeah, so I
think it was very poorly done.
Well, so a couple of questions. One, I mean, buyer, just bear I
guess you'd say buyer bought Monsanto, their plan is to do
away with the brand. So I don't know if they went into this
knowing about this, or if they got sold a bag of goods, but the
kind of the sad thing is that although this is a big win, and
everyone can see that this is a piece of crap product, and it is
not safe. And obviously, you know, there's problems with it.
That's really not where they're doing the most damage, you know,
this patent on seeds and on pigs, and that's the real damage
these guys cause, you know, they have seeds that they sell to
African farmers and you can only use their seed and if your seed
happens to to germinate in someone else's field or you have
a field next door and then they're gonna come by with their
helicopters and check your field and then they're gonna find you
and send you a bill if you're growing any of their seeds.
These guys are a holes. Yeah, there's a really bad seed patent
on actual life.
Well, they've been apparently in India where they've gotten a
foothold is he has a serious problem. It's farmer suicide.
Yeah, it's just really a bit the whole thing I don't know how
they got away with pushing this idea through that they could
patent a seed and then the spawn of that seed if it happens to go
into a neighbor's yard and start growing violation. This is some
sort of breaking anything. Patent line.
Now those guys are horrible. And I'm glad that it's now on hand
to the Germans even when you can no then we have other rules.
I don't like it yeah, the Germans have better rules than
we do
and look at buyers history not not the best track record when
it comes to human rights
they're the ones who produce buyer heroin the first heroin on
the market was a headache really remedy very pretty bottled buyer
had the buyer logo on his head heroin
and it was a full on horse was a yeah good. Was it was it was a
rock baby.
I don't know if it was like getting a powder form because
you know powders were like a way of doing aspirin for a long time
to where you buy like goodies in this deep south still sells
that. I think it's like a powder. Yeah, sure. Powder.
Yeah. And I don't know if it's a powder or pill. But it was a
headache remedy. I'm sure it worked.
Yeah, gave you all kinds of things to think about except
your headache.
So I've got a
there's a couple of interesting things going on. Right now.
They're Democrats in freakout mode, are promoting using ours
to select their celebrity base to do Who to pitch for people to
volunteer. So if they want people like if you're living in
California part of the whole progressive state here, and
there's a hot election going on in Arkansas that gets unseat
some Republican. They went, Yes, California has to do some of
their work really on on the phone. This is really a scam as
far as I'm concerned. And so the best pitch for it I've seen so
far is John Legend. And John Legend, the performer is the one
who once said And in recent months, said that if you're a
creative type, you can't vote for Republicans. You know, you
have to be a Democrat. Yeah. Otherwise you
won't understand music.
That's pretty much what he said he so numbers, independents and
non affiliated like myself, doesn't count Shut up. No, then
you're a You're an idiot in the viewer, unless you're a
Democrat. So I think this guy's a creep. But here's his pitch.
And I got a little comment about it
is John Legend here. I'm hosting a virtual phone bank for swing
left this weekend to help get out the vote ahead of the
special election in my home state of Ohio. That's right. I'm
from Ohio, and Ohio has a very special election on Tuesday,
we're working to elect Democrat Danny O'Connor to the House of
Representatives. Danny is campaigning on expanding health
care, and he proudly promotes his F rating from the NRA. His
Republican challenger is state senator Troy Balderson. A huge
Trump supporter, who wants to repeal Obamacare and embraces
the NRA is extreme agenda. We only need to flip 23 seats in
the House to regain a Democratic majority. If Danny O'Connor wins
will be one seat closer, putting a powerful check on President
Trump. Studies show that calling voters right before an election
greatly increases turnout. Only a few votes can make a huge
difference. Plus, this is a special election. And most
people don't even know what's happening. So sign up, and let's
get to work. Once you sign up, you'll get detailed
instructions, and a script that's easy to follow. You can
call voters from anywhere. All you need is internet access, and
a phone. So let's get out the vote in Ohio on this critical
last weekend before the special election. This is what democracy
looks like.
So this is what democracy looks like. He says, Yeah,
this is what democracy looks like. This is democracy
looks like what a script that's an easy to follow instructions.
You're missing the point. That is one of their chance. This is
what democracy looks like. I know the cadence even this is a
chance. This is one of the chance.
Yeah, no, I understand. Okay. But the point I'm trying to make
is that this is what democracy looks like. Turns out to be easy
to follow instructions, and a script. Script in a phone.
script in a phone easy follow. And so that's not what democracy
looks like. Hold on a second, but you think that's what
democracy looks like when somebody's reading from a
script? in Van Nuys, somebody in Ohio. I was that democracy
of man. Well, me, John Legend, I think is fairly well known that
he's top of the Illuminati chain. They gave him an MK Ultra
presidential model Christy Teegan to keep me happy. I can I
can see Tina rolling her eyes right now. That's my view on it.
By the
way, by the way. Balderson the Trump candidate in that
particular anecdote he was discussing one he beat the
Democrat guy. Yeah. Oops. So so much for that for your van eyes
callers. Somebody calls you but you've just before the election
asking where they're really from. You want to just talk
about their area. I understand. catalyzes thunderstorms there.
Yeah. Why are you calling me get off the phone? Jeez,
that is interesting. I got a couple of Canada Navia clips.
Now Canada Navia. is in hot water with Saudi Arabia is one
of the few coming out with
Yes, this is this is what big news says we're up in Port
Angeles area. In Canada. Navia news. Huge up there.
Yeah, I got I got a little bit here. Saudi Arabia seems intent
on escalating its protests against Canada for criticizing
its detention of women's rights activists. It's taken a few
measures to hurt Canada financially and it's threatening
more. Jeanne Lee is here with those details. So what's the
impact and potential impact of Saudi Arabia's latest moves?
Well, Rashmi, the impact is obviously hard to pinpoint, but
it stands to grow. And that's if a Financial Times report proves
to be true that to massive intern, institutional investors
in Saudi Arabia, that would be the central bank there. And also
state pension funds have decided to dump Canadian assets. Now, if
they do do this, and by the way, the order would come with a
quote No matter what the cost, meaning just sell, don't
question what you're getting just sell, then that would
obviously have an impact short term anyway, on the value of the
assets that they are selling. Although at this point, we don't
know what they're selling specifically, there was a dealer
quoted today in in the wires that monitor the kind of stock
selling that happens. And that person said there was a major
sell off or reports of a major sell off from an unknown
international dealer. Yesterday, we saw how Canadian stock
markets fell even though US markets were up not that they
always follow each other. But certainly it was an unusually
stark contrast in yesterday's action.
The insinuation here is that Saudi Arabian royal family are
pulling investments and doing nasty stuff to screw around with
Canada Navia. And this all stems apparently, from a tweet,
when Canada hosted the g7 summit, the Prime Minister stood
alongside his closest international partners. But as
Canada Wades through a messy diplomatic dispute with Saudi
Arabia, he's getting little public support from those same
trusted allies. We have
seen a weakening of the sort of solidarity that I think would
have been taken for granted a few years ago. And that is a
very, very worrying thing.
This former British High Commissioner to Canada is
disappointed the UK and the US are staying neutral in the spat.
The British Foreign Office offered a brief statement saying
Canada and Saudi Arabia are both close partners of the UK. And we
urge restraint. And earlier this week, the line from the US
Canada is on its own in the wake of Brexit in the UK and the rise
of Donald Trump in the US. Traditional superpowers are
stepping back from their international responsibilities.
Anthony Kerry says the lack of solidarity is a result of that
shift.
And I hope now that this is just some rough weather that we're
going through and that we can restore the strength of those
relationships. Because it's a very worrying thing if we if we
simply get into a world where it's every nation for itself.
Canada would not be testing the strength of its allies. Some
argue if it stuck to traditional diplomatic channels, rather than
use Twitter.
The thing with Canada, their approach was undiplomatic behind
closed doors dialogue, communication, diplomacy.
So here's the tweet from Canadian Foreign Minister
Chrystia Freeland very alarmed to learn that Samar Badawi rife
Badawi sister has been imprisoned in Saudi Arabia.
Canada stands together with the Badawi family in this difficult
time. And we continue to strongly call for the release of
both Raif and Samar Badawi. That's the tweet that did it.
Well, that was approved by the Prime Minister because he's an
activist, I'm sure well, and I end this commentary about the US
and Britain won't stand by Canada and it's not being as
rules. No, it's not Canada. It's this guy. Also turned on Trump
after that, geez, at the gesture at the g7 and with his little
speech, and got Trump all bent out of shape. He's not going to
help him. Oh, and and if you won't listen to him, there was a
lot of good you'd wish I didn't catch any of it. But he was
yakking about this quite a bit. Listen to Canadian reports from
CBC and his his yakking he sounds like a 12 year old. He is
a kid. Nobody respects him. Right. I mean, he's an
embarrassment. I don't know. I think Canadians I guess it kind
of like well,
we'll do you think they were trying to do a little bit of
Trump diplomacy thing and that's the way to go and we know how to
do this now. And that's how it works Ltd. That must be works
for Trump. Yeah,
he doesn't work for Trump and just Trump is part of Trump's
Arsenal's has
a lot that has a lot that goes along with it.
Exactly. So it's it's a douchey call around so I was getting
there I knew oh here's just current news like Mazal put this
into this the gearing up I put this in this about the bunch of
protests and demonstrations in bull crap and Chesapeake area
and Virginia this is for the
for the yesterday's anniversary of Charlottesville all the news
networks we're live waiting for waiting for a bloodbath. Wow, we
need to see it we need to see death and destruction.
So porn, this was the pre report I put it at you. You're gonna
have to try to guess why I put this in the today's
is the word Convo or veggies in there by any chance?
No, no, no, you got you didn't guess it. You'll may figure it
out once you start hearing the report.
About 700 Virginia State Troopers are part of The
heightened security in Charlottesville, part of the
city has been locked down cutting off all vehicular
traffic and forcing pedestrians through to checkpoints all until
Monday morning.
Nothing would excite us any better than that just to be non
eventful and folks to go home and it'd be a peaceful weekend
for all
one year ago white nationalist angered by a plan to remove a
Confederate statue marched through the University of
Virginia campus bearing torches while chanting racist and anti
semitic slogans. The next day 1000s of white nationalists made
their way through Charlottesville streets only to
be met by counter protesters, violence and chaos world for
hours Heather hire was killed when a car plowed into a crowd
of counter protesters. James Alex Fields was indicted and
hires death and faces dozens of hate crime charges.
Is there a an epidemic of constipation going on in the
mainstream?
Is this is your boy this is the guy Jeff.
Now white nationalists have planned a rally for Sunday in
Washington DC. At least five counter protest groups are also
granted permits. Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser,
the only right message and the message that I hope that we will
carry jointly as Washingtonians is love, inclusion, and
diversity.
guns will be prohibited from the demonstration zone in
Washington, but they are allowed within downtown Charlottesville,
UVA Student Eric Paton sharp. So what is your main concern
heading into this weekend? My
main concern is making sure that there's total safety for the
civilians here in Charlottesville and that the
police presence actually does their job and protects this the
students and community members. The officials
won't say whether the increased police presence here is just as
a precaution, or in response to a specific threat.
To be honest, I couldn't get past the constipated delivery.
It's Jeff Jeff again. I know the best. Yeah.
Is that why you clicked it for me? Yeah. Okay. So I guess it
because he was pooping.
And now, I thought it was interesting that the mayor of
Washington DC, similar to the mayor, San Francisco, Pro, the
new regime of progressive black women, says that the only thing
that's important is love, inclusion and diversity. Yeah,
I'm thinking, What about public safety? I mean, she's the mayor.
Now, if you have it, if you have love, then you don't have to
worry about anything else.
You know, public safety cleaned the poop off the streets. This
sort of thing seems more important to me than diversity.
Yeah. But okay.
You know, because you would ask, I did some more follow up
research on the Austin equity counsel, who wanted to change
the name of Austin, because, you know, Austin, Austin's founder,
own slaves. So how can we possibly call ourselves Austin
without being a shining example of institutional racism?
It makes nothing but sense so that they had a special
meeting because they want to build a stadium in and this is
all part of it. By the way. They wanted to build a stadium for
Major League Soccer in Austin that we want to be besides the
taxpayers. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Besides tech mecca. Now we want
to be a Major League Soccer hub for all of the United States
that couldn't do it in LA. So maybe Beckham will move here
that that would be that now then we really have to leave. Becca
moves to Austin.
He's not moving there.
So there were people who want this, you know, there's a lot of
major leaks and we'll MLS that home MLS player MLS fans, but
it's the same counsel and the same people who also were in the
equity division for the renaming, because this has to do
with gentrification, etc. And from what I understand, I've
been trying to get video I know someone has an iPhone video of
this. Apparently, all of the MLS fans who are you know, whenever
someone came up and said something positive about the
stadium and an Austin and don't worry black people, you know,
brown people, we're not going to displace you with our stadium.
You have nothing to worry about. Then all the MLS fans would be
hooting and hollering and cheering. But anyone who was
even on the council itself when someone says something they
agreed with they did finger snaps what Yes. Hello? 1960s
Yes, it was there. It was written about everywhere.
Everyone was writing about this, but I haven't seen it.
Thank you. But yeah, see ya.
Finger snaps. Yes, yes. Cool. And that's right. Keep Austin
equitable and diverse. banging the drums Johnny Boy. Exactly.
Yeah, I wish I had my tambourine Would you believe Can you
believe that? Your snaps?
I cannot believe it.
I can just see they had a meeting like, you know, hey,
we're going to be civil. We're going to finger snap. We're not
gonna be hooting and hollering, like those degenerates are
trying to kill the neighborhood's
God,
which works they are.
Oh, man,
look great.
That's fantastic. You can't move now.
No, only one of us is going down with the ship. And that's you
and California I live.
I think you're gonna have to grow up a goatee. And make it
again Diet Black and then start wearing a bourree bourree a
blackbird. Perfect.
Perfect. Well, geez, I'll finish. We gotta go to break
here. But I'll finish with one more Austin story. Even though
I've been holding on this clip for a couple episodes that they
just want to play it. It's on the media NPR with Bob Garfield.
And he's talking to Cody Wilson of the Austin kid who you know
is printing up the ghost guns. Oh, yeah, I had this clip. Oh,
you did? Yeah. This
is a good clip.
You know, Jim fix the runner and cardiovascular guru died of a
heart attack and the owner of segway segwayed himself right
over a cliff to worry about the irony of the universe leading
you to be shot by a plastic gun.
I don't worry about it. But I think it's a strong possibility.
And Nick Bilton at the New York Times asked me the very same
thing. Aren't you worried that someone's going to print when
he's out and shoot you to make some point? Well, yeah, it's
probably going to happen, right? But it'll be some progressive,
some frustrated progressive who thinks that I ruin the world by
you know, disabling his nanny state, so? Well, fine. Perhaps I
have to suffer a death, but it only makes their cars look more
futile.
Well, I'm just saying that I was at the movies the whole evening.
And that's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Thank you
very, very much.
It's a pleasure. Thank you so much.
Nice Bob Garfield.
Yes, this was a very this was cited by a lot of people as a
would the subtext of really a violent response to this bastard
who just did nothing more than write some code you know
harmless was code and it was gonna make these gummy Yes, I'm
gonna I'm gonna shoot a couple of these guns off so what you
can buy guns it's not like he can't go get one. And this and
this this kind of mean spirited commentary. I won't be here I
was
I didn't do it. I didn't shoot him. I don't hate my guests so
much. I would kill him with his own gun. It wasn't me. Yeah,
it's
a very very interesting dimension be completely you
know, haha, it's so funny. Yeah, commentary. Yeah. I don't know
why I don't have I mean, I had that clip floating around. I
don't know why I haven't put it on my list.
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Yes. Can I just do a little flashback for people? I thought
it would just be helpful. Advice bag that is very effective. Can
you do that? Again? That's very effective. I like that a lot.
Flashback. Yeah, that's pretty damn good. All of this talk of
meddling in elections. And you know, we said yeah, we metal,
the metal, everybody metal. But maybe it would be good. Since
it's been a couple of years now to listen to some actual
American meddling in another country's business. And not just
a little bit, but brazenly. So determining who's going to be in
the government who's going to be doing what jobs? Who was
connected, right, who are we going to sideline I'm talking
about. And I it's two and a half minutes little long, but it's
good for you to hear again to remember that this is what this
is what democracy looks like. This is actual collusion. I'm
talking about Victoria Nudelman Nate Nuland, when they were
literally manipulating the Ukrainian government, under all
kinds of shady circumstances, forget about all the business
interests that are taking place under the auspices of the State
Department in Ukraine. I'm talking Kerry's kid Biden's kid,
everyone's in their billion dollar hedge funds. We got
Chevron putting billions of dollars in and then this call
was recorded and released by I'd have to say it was Russia, which
also may be part of the anger that some people have towards
Russia. But this is such a doozy. I just want to play it
again so people can remember that we truly are also a holes.
What do you think?
I think we're in play. The Klitschko piece is obviously the
complicated electron here, especially the announcement of
him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on
the troubles in the marriage. Right now, so we're trying to
get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think
your argument to him, which you'll need to make, I think
that's the next phone call we want to set up is exactly the
one you made to yachts. And I'm glad you sort of put him on the
spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I'm very glad he
said what he said in response.
Good. So I don't think we should go into the government. I don't
think it's necessary. I don't think it's a good idea.
I mean, I guess you think in terms of him, not going into the
government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political
homework and stuff. I'm just thinking, in terms of sort of
the process moving ahead. We want to keep the moderate
Democrats together, the problem is going to be Tony book and his
guys. And you know, I'm sure that's part of what Janna COVID
was calculating on all of this.
I think yards is the guy who's got the economic experience, the
governing experience, he's he's got, you know, what he needs his
cleats and tiny book on the outside, he needs to be talking
to them four times a week. You know, I just think cleats going
in? He's going to be at that level, working for Yatseniuk.
It's just not gonna work.
Yeah, no, I think that's right. Okay. Good. What do you want us
to try to set up a call with him? The next step?
My understanding from that call, but you tell me was that the big
three? We're going into their own meeting? And that, yeah,
that's what's going to offer in that context, three Lake, you
know, three plus one conversation or three plus two
with you? Is that not how you understood it? No,
I think I mean, that's what he proposed. But I think just
knowing the dynamics, it's been with them where Klitschko has
been the top dog, he's gonna take a while to show up for
whatever meeting they've got. And he's probably talking to his
guys at this point. So I think you reaching out directly to him
helps with a personality management among the three and
it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this stuff and
put us behind you behind it. Before they all sit down and he
he explains why he doesn't like
it. Okay, good. I'm happy. Why don't you reach out to him and
see if he wants to talk before after?
Okay, we'll do. Thanks. Okay. I've
now written Oh, one more wrinkle for you, Jeff. Can't remember if
I told you this, or if I only told Washington this that. When
I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for
the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I write that this morning? Yeah, I
saw that. He's now gotten both Cerri and Bonnke. Moon to agree
that salary could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would
be great, I think to help glue this thing and have the UN help
glue it. And you know, fuck the EU. laughing This is what I'll
say. To you, just a little flashback.
So at the meet up, there was pretty blonde that showed up.
And she happens to be a one of the people at Amazon
intelligence. Oh, okay. And what did she have to say? She said
that she said she had a funny way of finding the show. She was
in Russia for a couple of years finishing of something or other.
She's a security analyst. And she was in Russia for two years
or a year or two for as part of her college program. And she was
there during this specific episode. Oh, and she said she
was nearby where there were protests outside of the American
Embassy and there's people picketing saying get the CIA out
of Ukraine, right? This sort of thing. And they had a different
whole different story about what the hell was going on over
there. And she said somebody turned her on to our podcast as
you heard it, she says, you know, these are the only guys
that are actually covering this at all.
Yeah, at the time is true. It was to me we were like wow, this
is fantastic. barely covered under the guise of well, she
said a bad you know the F word. So we can't really play this
tape for you really shouldn't here because she said something
bad's she's
sorry. He played that and took it over analyze it or took part
they just all played along with whatever we were telling you or
what our governor was telling you. Everyone's saying so they
were saying they're parroting whatever our State Department
said yeah. And so she found it very refreshing she's been a
listener ever since. Oh, good. Yeah. Spoke
Gods okay. Oh, we welcome spooks don't care Amazon intelligence.
I can understand Amazon security. What's the
intelligence are they spying?
Did you ask her about that's it dude. No, it has to do with
market intelligence.
spying. What's the difference?
I've seen market intelligence uses as a structure that people
have in marketing tip market marketing intelligence. In other
words, they I don't know why they bother but
okay marketing intelligence interesting. Yeah.
But also security so that she had a strange background and
well, Amazon knows everything about us Amazon really is, in my
mind, almost more Evil Corp than Google baby
but you know, they're running a whole foods now. And
I've seen this this one story about Facebook, trying to
requesting customer data from the banks. And of course, you
can't really find any in depth analysis of this because my
first question would be do the banks have my written permission
is this I have I could sign that away when I opened the account
Am I unaware of the of their ability to do this? To do what
to save my data to a third party like face bag? I think that they
just do it. I don't know that you've given that them the
honestly, when you open a bank account, I have a you're a
customer of their bank and they owe they will What if I gave
your email address to Facebook know what happens when it says
again, I look at your cat or when you when you click on
Google Maps, it says we now we now on your cut your contact
list? Well, people on my contact list didn't give me permission
to do that. Right? I think there's a lot of this going
around.
Well, I'm just curious if you know my my account history. I
mean, I looked at credit card companies I know they sell it
and I think that's the same thing. When you sign up for the
credit card in there. It's like you're screwed. We'll take
whatever we want from you.
Seems I don't know. You're going to have to ask your banker Where
did I give you the conversation? Why don't you I'm your banker
okay. Hey new a former New York banker How you doing? Good.
How's that Tesla?
I gotta rub it in as good as I like. That's good.
So even though you've never been on the retail side can banks
just give away all of my data to Facebook? I don't think so.
You're and you're not you're not the New York banker. What did
you do with the New York banker?
I don't know I don't think so it we don't do that.
Okay
well it's been it's in print that they've asked it so I'm
just curious
well I just not our bank we don't do that upstairs but can
you just go
back I like John better please. I like him better I don't like
the banker in that way. He's not giving me any info. Just say you
go hey, I'm just saying
I've lost him to banking
Yes. I've well that's the whole point banking is supposed to was
supposedly secure you put your money there you know the your
it's your relationship with your bank. But when you get Chase JP
Morgan who are you know, we're gonna Okay,
here's how you add value add
what is this face bag person say we don't use purchase data from
banks or credit card companies for ads? No, of course not. You
use it for profile building that's very different so anyway,
that I'm sure we have several people in the banking business
who can tell me what the deal is. Well,
let's stop for a second and explain your bitch
well like Amazon the Amazon has a lot of purchasing history for
me although I'm trying to wean myself off of Amazon because you
know, ultimately I know they know way too much about me I
already I already don't get any of the free deals at Whole Foods
I can't shop at Whole Foods anymore besides the price is
this you know they're trying to connect everything with Amazon
everything is they're trying to make the circle completely you
know close the loop Yeah, close the loop. Yeah, I just don't
like it so Can Can my bank give my purchasing history my
whatever I spend my money on to Facebook and give them power
that could rival Amazon's I'm not sure what
you're buying they you just do take money from them I guess you
write a check once in a while to use
cash for use a debit card. Okay, look cash Hey, thanks thanks for
the conversation I'll let's go to another topic because you're
gonna be a dick about it. I just I'm asking if it's legal can
they do it? Do you do you sign your life away when you open an
account? It's a simple
read the fine print I've never noticed that they do this. Well,
credit card company care as far as I'm concerned, they don't
even seem to want you to have an account anymore. These banks if
you notice.
Now there's a good point. They don't I'm pretty sure right? You
sign that away when you open an account. Maybe But yeah, yeah,
obviously you want to minimize the information you're giving
out but the world is a is digital digital money baby oh
wait a minute. There's another story about the same Chase
We are already mostly going cashless right so Chase wants to
eliminate car chases rolling out cordless transactions to most of
its ATMs. You no longer need a physical debit card and can
instead get cash using a mobile wallet teenagers across the
country. Thumbs up. Things like Apple Pay or Google Pay on your
smartphone users can simply tap their smartphone on the ATM to
easily access money on the go. Yeah,
that's what they're all talking about. They're all talking
cashless baby and they're gonna give the kids a wallet they're
very smart they're marketing their way right into this
razor suckers Yeah, of course in Seattle and they said hey, do
you have any money? Did you bring any money now we don't
carry money everybody me no carry my they know the old man
does Yeah. Is an old manual carry money. We don't want you
to bring some money. I didn't think that we needed money. Bank
Note company play this clip. This is kind of a counter to the
whole thing isn't one bank note company apparently makes 90% Of
all the bank notes. That's why you'd go from country to
country. The bank notes look like they're made by the same
company. They're made by the same company.
But many countries around the world get their currency from a
small private firm just outside London. Deliveroo. London has
operated for more than 200 years and Roxanna Sudbury got a look
at how they fit the bills.
Big Ben turns to gold. And turtles take a ride in wallets.
When designers at British company Delarue transform ideas
to money
beneath the pretty designs actually is. It's a piece of
critical national infrastructure economies rest on banknotes.
Creative Director Julian Payne says while the Friday art class
is part of the workweek, the mission that designers here face
is serious and far reaching
everything here except the US dollar we've designed.
Delarue has designed more than a third of the world's bills from
the UK Sterling to the Seychelles rupee and the Fijian
dollar. And while most Americans use credit cards, 30% of the
world's adults don't even have a bank account.
To help people use their money. This is an example of helps
people some some people fold money in Sub Saharan Africa. And
then it's stored in interesting places as well. So they will
store it in their clothes in underwear under the bed absolute
under the doormat. So they're not going to take you to the
bank.
So that money that you create has to be sturdier.
Durable, exactly.
Yes. Yep. Okay.
So I mean, it's not it's not over yet.
Can I ask you a question? And this is a very low level stupid
question. I just want to see if I understand something, when it
comes to when it comes to inflation. If someone says our
inflation is 2% Yeah, I understand the basics. That
means that your the power of your money has diminished or the
cost of goods have gone up by just 2%. Compared to the the
money you have same thing. does this occur due to setting of the
rates? Or is it the inflation imply actual creation of new
money that that that lowers the purchasing power of the money?
Nobody knows. Okay, nobody? Okay, that's great. Thank you
best answer. And the reason why I was thinking of it is I
remember when in the 70s, I was on vacation, in the late 70s,
from Holland in states and the Toyota truck, I remember the
whole campaign jump for Toyota, whenever they would jump up the
whole family and that frees up and then a freeze frame. And I
remember the cost of the truck $4,999 Yeah. Now this same
truck, although of course, modernized today. Costs $50,000.
Same truck. Yeah, pretty much. So that's because of inflation,
the power of our dollar has diminished
for real serious inflation issue in the 70s. So everything from
about 19 I'd say from 1965 to 1970. Everything you bought in
that period would be 10x. Right? And I was looking at as 10x with
gasoline was about 20 cents a gallon. Now. It's $2.50. Now
it's gone up so there's been even more inflation. There's
Ford Mustang in 1965 was 25 $2,700.
Ah, yeah. And now it's 30,000 80,000. Yeah.
Plus, so everything is 10 Extra in that period. And this
benefits a lot of my dad used to always say, you know, the thing
about high inflation is it benefits the debtors, because
you get to pay off your debts in cheaper money, cheaper money,
right. And so the bankers and all these people that have a lot
of outstanding debts or loans, they got loans out. They don't
want People pitch. So they're trying to keep inflation down,
the Fed knows that inflation is going to creep into the system
anyway, because the business cycle will make it happen. So
they are, it's their job to balance, do a balancing act to
keep it around their goal about 2%. That way the banks can deal
with the cheaper money because it's not going to get them as
cheaper. And the whole thing is the Federal Reserve's was that
their job is to kind of keep anything from going too crazy,
one way or the other. But to try to keep it low, also promotes
the idea that perhaps you go into a depression where you have
reverse inflation.
Yeah, when is reversed, inflation happened?
I've never seen it really, they all but it almost happened
around 2008 2009. They talk about it, and it never happens.
Because they you know, they're just not gonna let it happen.
Right. So what market will
however this black box works, the bottom line is that in about
30 years, you get about a 10x devaluation in your in the
purchasing power of your money. Probably. Okay, good. Then Lisa.
I understand. Well, you kind of do go Bitcoin. Well
die with X actually say gold?
Yeah. Well, it's it's, there may not be that much difference
between the two. In some aspect, in some aspects. You
buy a gold bar? Yeah. Yeah.
Yep. I had one. Good time, you know,
the story has been told good
times. Just stay in the financial realm. For one second,
I want to play this clip. And I have a little comment about it.
This is about the, by the way, I want to say we call the short on
Tesla, which is not an investment advice. But you're
absolutely right, it went down the 250. It doesn't mean that
you remain short, and that now we're like idiots, because it
went up. And this is, this is how it works. This is day to
day, and I think we called it correctly. But now this thing is
skyrocketing. Because Elon Musk, in a tweet, said, Man, I'm
paraphrasing. We're gonna take this thing private, the
financing secured, you know, at $420, which is an obvious joke.
Not that the taking the company private is a joke. In fact, I
think he's going to, but we'll I have a thought on why here's the
little story first,
bring it now, Larry McDonald, who's been listening at all this
stuff and put out a great note about looking at Tesla bonds
before we get to what the bonds may be telling us. Let's talk
about this equity move here, Larry, because you've got either
one of two things happening, you've got a market that is
happy that maybe must be recusing himself, or you've got
a market that may be happy that by this reporting by Alec
Sherman, it is more likely a deal for a takeout is going to
happen, or I guess see combination of the above?
Well, I think Karen nailed it. I mean, this is making it look
like there's a deal. It's a kind of credit, credibility cover up.
But at the end of the day, they would have to do something like
this, once he put that forth. But you know, the bottom line
is, as listen listening to the table here, you know, he's made
a mockery of the SEC. And if you're worth 25 26 million
bucks, right, he's making a calculated bet that, okay, I
might get a million dollar fee might be 5 million bucks, you're
worth 25 million bucks, you'll you'll spend 1,000,005 million
bucks, maybe 500 grand to burn the shorts. And at the end of
the day, now, now the board has to put forth a happy face, they
have to make it look like they have real financing. But the
whole capital structure all week, bottom bottom line from
the Solar City bonds to the high yield bonds, has really been
selling you there's no financing there right now.
The reason I bring this up, is during my calls over the
weekend, the Elon Musk came up and you're like a throwaway
conversation like that. What the fuck is he doing? And I'm here
to tell you that the intelligence agencies but really
in particular, the GAO, the National Geospatial space show
agency, and yeah, that guy, those guys, those guys, and of
course NASA, they love Elon Musk, He is God. He is so deep
inside because you know we all talk about Tesla, that's his
payoff. They are going to help him they will do whatever he
wants. I truly believe he'll take it private at 420 they love
this guy. All it's all about SpaceX Tesla is is a joke
compared to what he's really doing. This guy is in deep. They
love him. And they will do anything for him. They think
he's the wunderkind the genius. He's gone way beyond where we
see
Tony Stark
in a way on that level. Now they are not insane. Thinking that
he's gonna have some soot and fly around and save the world.
But yeah, Ah at that level of of heroics is where the
intelligence especially the geospatial agency, love this guy
protect him do anything he wants nothing to worry about if he
wants take the company private yes financing secured it's taken
care of he is the love child of the spy agencies that's a good
theory I'm not I'm just telling you I'm just telling you what I
heard this is what I've been telling oh
you heard amazing somebody's talking about it but it doesn't
mean they're right.
No, but it falls in line with SpaceForce
it does put everything falls in line here's here's and then the
goal of the guy to say he's going to take it private at 420
I mean, he take it private you do what Michael Dell did the
stock is starting to false roll away down you take your get gets
down to pretty low and then you buy low with your own money and
you have whatever financial and get you buy your company back
and then you run it back up to up in value and then you put it
public again and you make a killing you don't buy high that
ridiculous price of 420 I mean take don't take your company
private at that number is crazy. That's insane.
A lot of money and this guy knows one thing for sure how to
get money from the government.
But ya know, I'm not gonna argue that although Solar City did
fail, sure, but
it's irrelevant, though. They'll do it and I think you know,
Tesla is it's a it's a dumb dead company. The cars are basically
not all that great. Sexy is a lot going on. It's sexy. It's a
sexy little thing newest,
the newest model s a good you know now that model Travis you
get to see when I might have seen one because it looks like
in Model S it's smaller. But the newest model S with that stupid
boat nose looks like it should be in the water. They took the
fake grille off which was a nice design element. They took it off
and that's get that stupid front is very ugly when it comes by
and then did model did other one. S U V with the Goldwings.
I'm sorry, I just had to laugh at Nick the rat. In the troll
room. Nick says bye hi at 420 Some good thinking there, Nick.
Oh, yeah, that's good. Good line.
Good way to go, Nick.
I think it'll happen and I think it's just a play thing. It's the
it's not a serious car company. It'll never be a serious
contender. It's his public Tony Stark persona. That kind of
covers up the real work that he's doing. And I'm I'm content
on the board. He's got quite a future. Here's Fox I'll play a
dumb clip from Fox with this guy normally doesn't go on Fox he's
I thought it was a CNN shill. Michio Kaku,
the Michio Kaku guy. Yeah, that guy. He's on everything get on.
Okay. SpaceForce.
That's right. I think we have to take it seriously because Donald
Trump sees this as part of his legacy. Long after he's gone.
We're going to have a US Space Force for the first time since
1947. And you brand carry, and I think he wants to put his his
stamp of approval on this. So we have to take it seriously. We
don't realize that outer space we are a sitting duck for a
preemptive strike, you realize that we are the most vulnerable
because we have over half of all the commercial operating
satellites in orbit. Yeah. And even a small nation like North
Korea, a hydrogen bomb over Kansas would be enough to wipe
out nearly half of our telecommunications network and
paralyze power stations across North America. Right. And that's
just one hydrogen bomb over Kansas. In fact, this
conversation is happening in outer space. This TV show is
carried by the Internet, telecommunications, radio, a
GPS, all of it the economy, national security is done in
outer space. And like I said, we're sitting ducks. So that's
why I think we should follow what Ronald Reagan did. Ronald
Reagan said, Hey, we need peace through strength. But b Let's
cut a deal with Gorbachev. Let's try to manage the unmanageable
by cutting a deal. Now the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 could
address these vulnerabilities. But it's way out of date.
There's nothing about laser cannons kill his kinetic energy
weapons nothing. The world has changed so much. Oh, my
laser cannons, energy weapons. I'm telling you and Elon Musk is
the man you hear Trump he's always talking about Yeah, we
got commercial commercial people sending stuff into space Space
Force were the best commercial all these we got rockets flight.
It's all Elon Musk, and not all but Elon Musk is the is the
golden child. Yeah, he's got them all by the balls.
We'll see. Yep,
I'm saying for 20 He takes it private. For 20
I'm not asking for change if it's for 20 He's got to be the
number I think I'm now I'm thinking about it. Symbolic, you
know, in your face for 20 Yeah, yeah. Smoking a doobie.
Yeah, I'll buy 100 shares. I can't that's all I can afford. I
won't make a lot of money but
we'll make any money.
Yeah, like 100 bucks.
Which it at now. 360 Probably.
So not even make 60 bucks. Yeah, sorry.
on a lark.
Lark. Exactly. Lark.
Exactly. Well, let's play a bit. This
is not advice. By the way. This is not investing.
Advice. Not coming to me for investment is bad advice. It's
very bad. I had the guy in my face who would which started a
Bitcoin mining operation? Yeah,
there you go. Just bought a ranch. And here we are doing a
podcast.
Yeah, we're still podcast, by the way.
Sean Spicer, Sean Spicer. Yeah, the first White House press
spokes hole for Donald Trump. Yeah, speaking at the
Commonwealth Club, as you can imagine, when you are had been
in the public eye like that. And you had been nd Saturday Night
Live skits are done about you. And just all this. I mean, this
was the guy to hate on to yell about, I mean, he was defending
the indefensible. And you'd think, really this, this is a
career starter, you get out, you know, you can go almost anywhere
you can do almost anything. And Sean Spicer is really grasp this
opportunity, you know, by the horns and taking it head on. And
he's got a career path that I'm very, very envious of
a number of
questions about your next steps. What are your plans? And how has
your time at the White House? Colored? Let's say your, your
opportunities I've had I frankly, been pretty blessed
with a lot of things. Since I've left. And you know, I've
launched a podcast.
That's right. He's launched a podcast,
that he's stepping up in the world.
Welcome to the Big League Shawn. Yeah, man, it's cold up here.
lonely at the top of the podcast, podcast,
one net? Yeah, probably everybody else.
All right, we got time for another clip from him that we
should go.
But we had a couple of we do Snapchats failing as an
interesting clip, who I'd like to listen to that first.
3 million active users is what Snapchat said that they lost in
this last quarter. Before we get into the overall social media.
What does that mean, for Snapchat specifically?
It's a good question. I mean, snap hasn't had particularly
encouraging earning reports since it went public. And I
think what people are looking at now is not just whether or not
snaps recent redesign is the cause of this, which is what the
CEO Evan Spiegel said was part of the disruption in users.
We've heard a lot of rumblings about those. Absolutely. I mean,
the redesign was very poorly received, in fact, snap ended up
reversing some of the design changes that it made. But I
think the bigger question is whether or not this hints at
some sort of larger social media fatigue. And this is more
evidence that
you're you're hitting on the point exactly. Because in order
for these companies to flourish, they've got to be used by
people. So have we hit that hard stop? Is the saturation point.
Among us?
I think the saturation point question is the big question
right now. And when you look at the fact that Facebook has more
than 2 billion users on its platform, and you just start to
think, oh, my gosh, how could they possibly get any more users
than that? And that is, I mean, that is the point, right? There
are only so many people in the world. And there are only so
many people who are going to want to use social media and
platforms like Snapchat and Facebook. So at some point,
these companies and they start already started to do this, need
to think less about this, you know, user number and think
about engagement. And that's what's actually going to matter
in the long run.
Engagement is the amount of time a person spends on the site
using the service, right? That's right. You know, people turn
away from social media when they stop finding it to be a pleasant
experience. So one of the issues facing all these companies is
how do they, for lack of a better word, police the language
police of behavior seems like a complicated question for
companies that are just trying to make a buck.
Huh? Yeah. Socially Engaged. They want to do they put a chart
up showing how happy are you after you go on one of these
things. A lot of people are starting. More people are saying
I'm getting harassed, miserable, and miserable. I was told off
Trump supporter there's there's hope Trump is ruined. nice
things for everybody.
Yes. Well, we thank him for that.
Yeah, I Yeah, as far as I'm concerned he did a good deed. Go
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