1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,570 Adam Curry: The brand and as the brand the brand lives in the 2 00:00:03,570 --> 00:00:07,020 brand speaks and the brand listens and people connect with 3 00:00:07,020 --> 00:00:08,100 the brand. 4 00:00:08,450 --> 00:00:10,640 Unknown: Adam curry John C Dvorak. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,550 Adam Curry: It's Thursday June 20 2019. This is your award 6 00:00:13,550 --> 00:00:17,150 winning get my nation media assassination episode 1148 7 00:00:17,210 --> 00:00:19,130 Unknown: This is no agenda 8 00:00:20,090 --> 00:00:23,420 Adam Curry: under attack from for 51 errors and broadcasting 9 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:26,720 live from the south of Portugal in the Algarve in the morning, 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,030 everybody. I'm Adam curry, and from Northern 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,580 John C. Dvorak: Silicon Valley where Tom Cruise is not 12 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:35,030 representing the F 35. From what I can tell. I'm John C. Dvorak. 13 00:00:35,690 --> 00:00:37,280 Adam Curry: It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,510 Yes, thanks for the info on Tom Cruise. And I feel so up to up 15 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:48,350 to date now up to speed. You know, ya know, I still hear that 16 00:00:48,350 --> 00:00:49,040 ground loop. 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,750 John C. Dvorak: Oh, I don't have ground loop on my end. Would you 18 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:54,590 like a ground loop? I 19 00:00:54,590 --> 00:00:55,700 Adam Curry: can send one over to you 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,950 John C. Dvorak: send me if I want a sugar coated 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Adam Curry: sugar. Sugar coated ground loop? Yeah, 22 00:01:01,550 --> 00:01:03,290 John C. Dvorak: I had ground loops for breakfast. 23 00:01:06,590 --> 00:01:10,070 Adam Curry: All right. Hey, here I am. John in the Algarve in the 24 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:14,630 south of Portugal. The southern most tippy tip. Yeah, beautiful 25 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:18,290 area. Beautiful. And then the day that we have beautiful 26 00:01:18,290 --> 00:01:22,520 weather is the day we do the show. I'm not 27 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:27,230 John C. Dvorak: a little late anyway. Oh, by the way, five 28 00:01:27,230 --> 00:01:29,750 o'clock. She goes like Brazil and some of these other 29 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:33,170 countries. They don't even start eating dinner till midnight. 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,060 Adam Curry: But it would have been nice to catch a little more 31 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:39,680 sun. We had two days. Obviously. We got here Monday. Afternoon. 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,020 So it was beautiful Monday afternoon sacrifices 33 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:44,030 John C. Dvorak: we have to make for the low donations while 34 00:01:44,030 --> 00:01:44,720 you're on the road. 35 00:01:45,020 --> 00:01:47,060 Adam Curry: I'm leading up to that. Why do you always blow my 36 00:01:47,060 --> 00:01:53,840 punch line? It's like I'm getting all the way. Monday we 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:02:01,130 arrived Monday. From from where were we? You were in Ireland? 38 00:02:01,130 --> 00:02:04,160 Yes. Northern Ireland. That's right, in Northern Ireland. And 39 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:07,400 do we? We flew down here with the easy jets, which was 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,430 interesting because it was already filled with the rowdy 41 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:11,180 Brits. 42 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:13,820 John C. Dvorak: Was there a soccer game going on? 43 00:02:13,970 --> 00:02:15,980 Adam Curry: No, man. It's just you know how the Brits they like 44 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:20,150 to go to other places outside of their own country and get really 45 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:21,290 drunk and obnoxious. 46 00:02:22,530 --> 00:02:24,030 John C. Dvorak: Well, they do that in their own country too. 47 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:24,810 From my experience. 48 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:28,830 Adam Curry: They're a little extra extra bad when they come 49 00:02:28,830 --> 00:02:31,500 to to the mainland. In fact, I 50 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:33,690 John C. Dvorak: was like you It's like your theory on 51 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:34,800 podcasts. 52 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,650 Adam Curry: What's that? What's my theory? People go on to 53 00:02:37,650 --> 00:02:40,290 John C. Dvorak: a podcast. anything I want? 54 00:02:40,380 --> 00:02:45,570 Adam Curry: Exactly. That's exactly what's happening. Yeah, 55 00:02:45,570 --> 00:02:50,850 so the we We grabbed a cab to the, to the place we're staying. 56 00:02:51,150 --> 00:02:54,090 And the first thought was great. This guy was 47 years old. So I 57 00:02:54,090 --> 00:02:57,960 could try out my little trivia question on him. I said, Hey, 58 00:02:57,990 --> 00:03:02,100 were you around him in the 80s? Yeah, I was about 13. So do you 59 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:05,340 remember a countdown and he does a double take? Oh, my God, 60 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:08,850 that's you. So they do still remember if they're old enough, 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,950 John C. Dvorak: you say Do you know who I am? 62 00:03:13,590 --> 00:03:18,450 Adam Curry: Now, the phrase is surely you know who I am. But he 63 00:03:18,450 --> 00:03:22,830 said, hey, when you guys go back, make sure that you have at 64 00:03:22,830 --> 00:03:26,790 least two hours, be at the airport two hours ahead of time. 65 00:03:27,210 --> 00:03:32,130 He says because when the Brits are going back, they're drunk. 66 00:03:32,130 --> 00:03:35,460 They can't find their paperwork, their passports, they forgot 67 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:39,660 them that hold up the line. He says it is it's it's a mess. 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,890 Another travel tip from your no agenda show. It's actually a 69 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:47,100 good tip. That's a pretty good trip. The big problem, though, 70 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:58,260 has been the 450 ones. Explain error 451. This is an actual web 71 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:04,920 server error that is implemented and involves the general data 72 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,960 protection rules. So here's a just a small sampling of Adam 73 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:16,170 doing a show prep. I go to a web site. And we recognize you're 74 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:18,540 attempting to access this website from a country belonging 75 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:21,810 to the European Economic Area, including the EU which enforces 76 00:04:21,810 --> 00:04:24,210 the general data protection regulations, and therefore 77 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:27,960 access cannot be granted at this time. And thanks for your 78 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,840 patience. Thank you for being a patron of the Dallas Morning 79 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:33,600 News. Unfortunately, our site is unavailable to European Union 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,110 visitors Well, we work with our partners to ensure your data is 81 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:39,660 protected. We are committed to serving our communities and 82 00:04:39,690 --> 00:04:42,360 eager to become technically compliant to provide award 83 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,140 winning journalism to all of our readers. Unfortunately, our 84 00:04:46,140 --> 00:04:49,470 website is currently available in most European countries. We 85 00:04:49,470 --> 00:04:52,650 are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options 86 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:56,250 that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU 87 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:59,970 markets. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,550 that will provide all readers with our award winning 89 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:07,860 journalism. In other words, I would say a good 15% of what I 90 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:14,160 was trying to access is not legally accessible or at with 91 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,750 for non VPN users, people who don't understand how you can 92 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:21,120 circumvent it is just not available. 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,500 John C. Dvorak: Did this just don't I mean, you must have had 94 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:26,100 this and we've had it 95 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:28,560 Adam Curry: before. Now, we've definitely had it before. We did 96 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,700 not believe in 97 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:32,130 John C. Dvorak: you. Now, you done three shows from overseas? 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:32,760 I did not 99 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,020 Adam Curry: have it in the UK. It was not in the UK. Oh, 100 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:42,090 really? No. And I didn't notice it. So this is the first one on 101 00:05:42,090 --> 00:05:44,280 the mainland, and now I'm getting this nonstop. 102 00:05:45,810 --> 00:05:47,730 John C. Dvorak: Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. 103 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:50,520 Adam Curry: And I would have noticed that I would have made 104 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,210 note of it, 105 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:52,830 John C. Dvorak: and that you would have that no, the way you 106 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:54,120 complain that it shows 107 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,150 Adam Curry: up after 11 years, you know, I'd be complaining 108 00:05:57,150 --> 00:05:57,960 like a little bitch. 109 00:05:57,990 --> 00:06:00,450 John C. Dvorak: I mean, you're complaining about somebody you 110 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:02,520 should have been complaining about two shows. And 111 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,210 Adam Curry: I'm just trying not to hear the ground loop. Yeah. 112 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:10,830 So and honestly, I was thinking about setting up the VP, I could 113 00:06:10,830 --> 00:06:15,030 set up the VPN quite easily. But man, it's already I'm amazed 114 00:06:15,030 --> 00:06:18,090 that we're talking to each other without massive delay. There's 115 00:06:18,090 --> 00:06:21,480 maybe a megabit and a half each way on the on the Wi Fi 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:28,050 connection here. Oh, and the dongle has full bars but only 3g 117 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,990 If I can't get a 4g signal, so it's fine. 118 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,600 John C. Dvorak: Sounds great. You sound good. Hopefully. I'm 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,080 sure everyone I come on this show is finished out song II. 120 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,550 Well, I think about that. Because I'll be won't have any 121 00:06:41,550 --> 00:06:43,980 good quality going through to your side by now. You 122 00:06:43,980 --> 00:06:49,200 Adam Curry: sound actually You sound pretty good. By the way, 123 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,090 that's a time code notation. Thank you. So things I've 124 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:55,950 learned while here. 125 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,080 John C. Dvorak: What have you learned Adam? 126 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:01,950 Adam Curry: They have a new product here, which I think is 127 00:07:01,950 --> 00:07:08,580 outstanding. Is Portugal Yes. And it apparently was invented 128 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:14,040 in Portugal. Let me see if there's a there's let me see if 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,700 there's a name who will Well, I did ask about it. So I know it 130 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:23,340 was invented here in Portugal wine in a tube. So they have 131 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:27,690 these, these tubes that are like a test tube, except it's the 132 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:31,410 width of a bottle neck. So you know, so that's about as a big 133 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:37,080 tube. Is it Yeah, it's a sizable tube. And I'd say it is about 134 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:44,070 see I'd say that's about it's about five inches. One Two know 135 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:47,400 maybe about seven inches. Boy, I should know. It's about 10 136 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,840 inches. And it's yeah, the top is the hole. It's the diameter 137 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,420 of of a of a wine bottle. So the the it has a twist off top and 138 00:07:57,420 --> 00:08:00,000 they send they sell it's basically a one hit. It's like 139 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,670 you pour it into your glass. It's good for one glass one 140 00:08:02,670 --> 00:08:04,770 John C. Dvorak: glass you can take with it. What's the 141 00:08:04,770 --> 00:08:06,000 milliliters on that thing? 142 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. I have I have the mil 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,220 John C. Dvorak: when one 200 144 00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:23,580 Adam Curry: Got it from the Alright, got it from the 145 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:25,890 minibar. Here we go. 100 milliliter. 146 00:08:26,580 --> 00:08:29,760 John C. Dvorak: Okay 100 mil makes sense. Well, this is these 147 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:35,130 kinds of things have been around in the trade for some time as 148 00:08:36,810 --> 00:08:40,260 per tasting through wine tasters professionals. 149 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,390 Adam Curry: Oh really? Yeah, I thought it was for real 150 00:08:45,390 --> 00:08:49,500 alcoholics because you just pop this in your in your in your 151 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:53,460 jacket and your purse. Bam, you got a cocktail. Wherever you 152 00:08:53,460 --> 00:08:54,000 need a little 153 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,550 John C. Dvorak: middle flask is still best for there it 154 00:08:56,550 --> 00:09:00,540 Adam Curry: is. Genuine wit bottle wi t that's the 155 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:05,100 registered trademark, Flacco wit. So those are the guys that 156 00:09:07,290 --> 00:09:11,580 I guess trademark registered trademark. But it's that they're 157 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:14,910 putting everything in all kinds of wine. I just thought it was a 158 00:09:14,910 --> 00:09:15,720 genius idea. 159 00:09:16,290 --> 00:09:18,090 John C. Dvorak: Wine tastings would be perfect with these 160 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:19,530 things. Yeah. Yeah. And 161 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:21,240 Adam Curry: it's just handy to take along. You know, your 162 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:21,780 school. 163 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:25,650 John C. Dvorak: uses. Bam. 164 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:32,400 Adam Curry: You're drinking. It's fantastic. So yeah, not 165 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,420 much to report but the television coverage here has 166 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:42,900 been fantastic. As in, they got all the channels you'd want. Sky 167 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:49,380 News, CNN International, CNBC, BBC multiple BBC is which is 168 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:53,580 perfect because we have two major things going on here. One 169 00:09:53,580 --> 00:10:00,000 would be the choosing of the next prime minister of the 170 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,740 United Kingdom's have Gitmo nation 171 00:10:01,770 --> 00:10:03,930 John C. Dvorak: east? Yeah. And worse. 172 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:07,260 Adam Curry: Well, I will remind you that I said it would be 173 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:09,840 Boris and you were like, no, no, it's going to be gold. It's 174 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,050 going to be that guy. He's going to be a you were wrong that I 175 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:17,880 just said. No, you said no. Lie. 176 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:20,160 John C. Dvorak: I never said no to Boris. Oh, 177 00:10:20,190 --> 00:10:23,370 Adam Curry: okay. I shall get out and get a clip for next 178 00:10:23,370 --> 00:10:27,120 show. I want to I want to hear this clip. No, I'll get a clip 179 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 where you where you said, No, it's not going to be him. Okay, 180 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,110 that's what I want to hear. What was interesting is that all of a 181 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:37,320 sudden, as you kind of saw the flow. And now the way they do 182 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,560 this is very interesting. They have three, I think, three 183 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:45,360 rounds of secret ballots amongst the party. And each time you see 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,240 Boris Johnson is winning, he's winning, he's winning, they have 185 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,710 to whittle that down to two. That's after three rounds, then 186 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:56,910 they send the final to the number one and the closest to 187 00:10:56,910 --> 00:11:03,990 after, in this case, Bo Jo, to a mailing vote of the Conservative 188 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:08,790 Party across the country. I mean, this, this is so just 189 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:12,630 begging to be a reality show that I don't understand. I mean, 190 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:16,380 they should have these guys doing mundane tasks like eating, 191 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:21,000 eating shitty live bugs, and you'll have to repel over over 192 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,330 some angry white water or something. Like to see that was 193 00:11:24,330 --> 00:11:28,290 boring. It will be well, Boris will be fantastic. And so as you 194 00:11:28,290 --> 00:11:33,870 see the flow of this, they kept trying to push the Rori guy. The 195 00:11:33,870 --> 00:11:37,320 dweet is no good. Oh, but it was like all Rory, and I think it 196 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,860 was just like any bun but Boris please someone just bring roar. 197 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:44,040 And now he got kicked out. So he's out. So I think it'll be 198 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Boris Johnson. And it was it. Hunt? No, no, no, no. Jeremy 199 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,900 Hunt. Jeremy Hunt. Yeah. Jeremy Hunt. Isn't he that? I think 200 00:11:57,900 --> 00:11:58,650 he'll be number two. 201 00:11:59,430 --> 00:12:00,690 John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Yeah, I 202 00:12:00,690 --> 00:12:02,070 Adam Curry: think that's what's going on. But 203 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:05,250 John C. Dvorak: number two, and Theresa May was was? 204 00:12:06,510 --> 00:12:11,160 Adam Curry: I don't remember. I don't remember. But well, it's 205 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,320 but it's again, it's it's fun to watch. And the cycle is so 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,880 similar to the hatred for Trump. It's the same thing. 207 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,410 John C. Dvorak: He's racism here. 208 00:12:22,439 --> 00:12:24,509 Adam Curry: He's a bigot. Well, you know, part of that is, you 209 00:12:24,509 --> 00:12:26,999 know, obviously, there's some similar He's like, he's a nut 210 00:12:26,999 --> 00:12:31,049 job. He's a loose cannon. The my favorite, of course, is Hitler. 211 00:12:31,049 --> 00:12:35,939 He's hit literally Hitler. And there was this fantastic. Prime 212 00:12:35,939 --> 00:12:42,119 Minister question time. The other day where the if the guy 213 00:12:42,119 --> 00:12:47,339 from the Scottish National Party. Ian Blackwell, I think 214 00:12:47,339 --> 00:12:51,569 his name is we see under his name, the 215 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,490 John C. Dvorak: Blackfeet. Unfortunately, the guy that used 216 00:12:53,490 --> 00:12:56,370 to represent them was Angus character, and he was probably 217 00:12:56,370 --> 00:12:57,270 the best of the group. 218 00:12:57,270 --> 00:13:01,140 Adam Curry: Well, Ian is doing pretty good. Because and this is 219 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:04,200 a this is a full two minute clip because it has to go back and 220 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,900 forth with the with the speaker intervening because, I mean, you 221 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,200 can't just be calling a Member of Parliament, a racist in the 222 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,560 UK, you couldn't do it in America, but not in the UK. You 223 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:18,000 can't just be doing that, as 224 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,820 Unknown: the Prime Minister agreed, with the front runner 225 00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:24,180 set to succeed her that the Scottish people and their 226 00:13:24,180 --> 00:13:27,870 minister race that should be placed in ghettos and 227 00:13:27,870 --> 00:13:31,830 exterminated Well, of course, Mr. Speaker, words matter and 228 00:13:31,830 --> 00:13:34,650 actions back to the man who published those words in his 229 00:13:34,650 --> 00:13:37,800 magazine. The Prime Minister thought was fit for the office 230 00:13:38,010 --> 00:13:41,430 of a top diplomat and he hasn't stopped there. He said that 231 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:44,970 Scott should be banned from being Prime Minister banned from 232 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:48,870 being Prime Minister. Mr. Speaker, this is a man who is 233 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:53,100 not fit for Office. And so I asked as the prime minister 234 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:57,690 realize, not only is the member racist, he is stoking division 235 00:13:57,690 --> 00:14:01,560 and communities and has a record of this one. 236 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:06,060 Because the Prime Minister, honestly believe 237 00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:13,230 if the Right Honourable gentleman is referring to a 238 00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:16,380 current member of this house, I don't know whether he is. 239 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:20,490 Adam Curry: I don't know who he's talking about. 240 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:24,390 Unknown: In the language he uses, he should have notified 241 00:14:24,390 --> 00:14:27,840 the member in advance, but I would urge him, 242 00:14:27,930 --> 00:14:30,750 Adam Curry: I like this, you can call someone racist as long as 243 00:14:30,750 --> 00:14:33,720 you notify him in advance. Perfect. 244 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,110 Unknown: I would urge him to weigh his words, history and 245 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:42,750 Blackfoot. And indeed, and I think it would be much better if 246 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:47,250 for now he would withdraw any allegation of racism against any 247 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:50,940 particular member. I don't think that this is the forum. I don't 248 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:53,850 think it's the right way to behave. Mr. Ian Blackford. 249 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,630 Mr. Speaker, I haven't formed a member but member has called 250 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,310 Muslim women letterboxes. I African people as having 251 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:05,220 watermelon smiles, and another disgusting. 252 00:15:06,509 --> 00:15:09,179 Adam Curry: You can't be using our racist means you can't be. 253 00:15:09,359 --> 00:15:12,899 That's America's racist meme. The Waterman watermelons my dad 254 00:15:12,899 --> 00:15:13,949 can't be stealing that 255 00:15:17,730 --> 00:15:21,810 Unknown: racist Mr. Speaker, I do know what is does the Prime 256 00:15:21,810 --> 00:15:26,160 Minister honestly believe that this man is fit for the office 257 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:30,360 of Prime Minister. Prime Minister? 258 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:34,950 Can I just say, well, he's he's now the leader of the SNP in 259 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:38,040 this chamber. For some time. He's been asking Prime 260 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,050 Minister's questions for some time, he might actually 261 00:15:40,050 --> 00:15:43,440 understand the purpose of Prime Minister's questions. But it's 262 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,540 whilst the Prime Minister about the actions of government that 263 00:15:48,540 --> 00:15:51,570 is while she should be asking us about and I can say to the Right 264 00:15:51,570 --> 00:15:53,730 Honourable gentleman, I can say to the Right Honourable 265 00:15:53,730 --> 00:15:57,480 gentleman that I believe I believe any Conservative Prime 266 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Minister in the future will be better for Scotland and the 267 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,470 Scottish nationalists. 268 00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:09,210 Adam Curry: So it's been fabulous to watch. Yeah, it's 269 00:16:09,210 --> 00:16:09,810 been great. 270 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,090 John C. Dvorak: You get those moments. It's very entertaining. 271 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,680 I like it. I'd really Scottish National Party still worst, 272 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Adam Curry: but they're so sophisticated though. They're in 273 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Parliament. I just like how they go about their business. Oh, 274 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,870 yes. You can call them racist if you'd let him know ahead of 275 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:31,740 time. It's thank you so beautiful. Then we have the race 276 00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:39,330 for the President of the E EU Commission. This is the one that 277 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,670 you know, this is Yonkers job. Juncker the drunker and they are 278 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:49,740 having a hard time figuring out how to come to some consensus on 279 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:54,150 who this should be. I'm hoping for the show sake that it's 280 00:16:54,180 --> 00:17:01,440 France Timmermans, the Dutch guy who's we we might be able to get 281 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:08,670 him to talk to us one day. Never know. But now, the the former 282 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:13,830 anti the anti competition. Minister Margaret Margaret, for 283 00:17:13,830 --> 00:17:18,000 stat for strategists that she's in the running, she has put 284 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,430 herself in the running. Yes. So 285 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:21,210 John C. Dvorak: that's interesting. 286 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,660 Adam Curry: Yes. Let me see. I have two quick clips from her. 287 00:17:25,470 --> 00:17:29,430 And she's playing the gender card. Of course, when you're 288 00:17:29,460 --> 00:17:30,930 into it start with this one. 289 00:17:31,139 --> 00:17:33,839 Unknown: There has never yet been a female president of this 290 00:17:33,869 --> 00:17:36,389 institution. Do you think you're going to be the first? 291 00:17:36,780 --> 00:17:40,320 Well, that I don't know. But I find that it's long overdue that 292 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,210 you have a woman on this person as well. Because women are not a 293 00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:48,510 minority. We are half the European population, half the 294 00:17:48,510 --> 00:17:51,990 world population. So I think it's about time that also the 295 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:56,910 commission reflects that fact. Because it is important that you 296 00:17:56,910 --> 00:18:00,540 have more diverse for us to exercise power, 297 00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:02,280 John C. Dvorak: European Commission's vice president 298 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,710 consulting No, one of your current colleagues is from the 299 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:09,090 biggest group EVP he said, it's out of the question to give you 300 00:18:09,180 --> 00:18:11,610 the job of President, what's your reaction to that? 301 00:18:12,540 --> 00:18:15,540 Unknown: Well, that's obviously his opinion. The European 302 00:18:15,540 --> 00:18:20,010 elections were outstanding, because so many Europeans, they 303 00:18:20,010 --> 00:18:22,470 took the decision, I want to be part of our democracy more than 304 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:27,900 50% voted. And that's a first. And second, they didn't vote as 305 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:32,550 they usually vote it. The EPP were losing, I think, around 40 306 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:35,970 seats, sad, we're losing seats as well. My social liberal 307 00:18:35,970 --> 00:18:40,680 family gained seats so that the greens, so there's a new dynamic 308 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:43,650 in the European Parliament. And I think it's very important to 309 00:18:43,650 --> 00:18:45,330 hear that call for change, no 310 00:18:45,330 --> 00:18:50,370 Adam Curry: is a call for change. So there's 20 by 28 311 00:18:50,370 --> 00:18:53,910 members, of course, or one for each country. And she wants that 312 00:18:53,910 --> 00:19:00,990 to be what is the term gender balanced? Which means she wants 313 00:19:00,990 --> 00:19:04,770 a quota or does or does she want a quota when you're 314 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:08,160 Unknown: in a, in a diverse group, when you sort of break 315 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,910 uniformity in how we look, very often you also break uniformity 316 00:19:11,910 --> 00:19:15,960 in how you think you get better discussion, she gets better 317 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,220 decisions. You see that very much in business. And you also 318 00:19:20,220 --> 00:19:24,180 see that in political decision making, in my experience. So if 319 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:24,720 you became 320 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:27,450 Adam Curry: Commission President, would you have 14 321 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,400 Women commissioners, 14 male commissioners? 322 00:19:29,850 --> 00:19:32,640 Unknown: Well, you know, it may be 14 women and 13 men since we 323 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:39,540 may lose UK. But I think this is this is one of the the areas 324 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:42,780 where we can show Europeans that we change because a lot of the 325 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:46,410 changes that we're dealing with, they of course, the slow and it 326 00:19:46,410 --> 00:19:49,020 takes time to realize that things are changing, but do you 327 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:52,980 believe in quitters? Well, I call it the coach app. I think I 328 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:58,740 don't think 5050 is a quota. And anyway, we have accepted sort of 329 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:05,970 informal milk Notice of 80 90% for not even decades but for 330 00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:10,320 centuries, where women have not had the same access to 331 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,980 exercising power. I think it is about time that we get a gender 332 00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:14,850 balanced commission. 333 00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:17,730 Adam Curry: gender balance there it is. And I can tell her it's 334 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:22,050 not going to happen. Because Europe this is an old man's club 335 00:20:22,050 --> 00:20:24,480 they're not gonna let any women come in run the show. 336 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,800 John C. Dvorak: Ah. can happen. No, no, 337 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:31,950 Adam Curry: it not not in house way too early Europe is still 338 00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:38,100 way behind us, the US on all this stuff. We have rammed it 339 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,250 hard so fast and hard through everything that was still the 340 00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:45,240 heads are still spinning. Okay. No, I think it's just going to 341 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,100 be dudes. You watch 342 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,810 John C. Dvorak: the she gets in? She's gonna shake things up. 343 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,020 Adam Curry: Ah, yeah, because there's a lot of power. A lot of 344 00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:55,710 power there. 345 00:20:56,129 --> 00:20:58,109 John C. Dvorak: A lot of power. I think that's the most powerful 346 00:20:58,109 --> 00:20:58,529 spot 347 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,980 Adam Curry: now. And I don't have a clip, but I'm sure you 348 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:07,980 saw Angela Merkel man. She was with McCrone No, no, she was 349 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,950 with the Ukrainian president the new Ukrainian Ukrainian 350 00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:17,250 president in Berlin. Yes, she's wound. There you go. That I 351 00:21:17,250 --> 00:21:21,210 mean, I think that that could have come from dehydration. But 352 00:21:21,210 --> 00:21:26,130 it was not a good look. That that there was like it was like 353 00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:27,930 she had an attack of some sorts. 354 00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:31,080 John C. Dvorak: And this reminds me of it so far. It's not a good 355 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,640 look. It's conservative when George HW Bush Fuchs puked all 356 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,170 over the Prime Minister of Japan Prime Minister and then passed 357 00:21:40,170 --> 00:21:40,590 out that 358 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:45,540 Adam Curry: was not a good luck either. I agree. And it was 359 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:48,090 interesting that the the Ukrainian president maybe he was 360 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:50,550 really engrossed by whatever was going on. He didn't see that 361 00:21:50,550 --> 00:21:53,070 didn't see that out of his peripheral vision that she like 362 00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:57,030 wouldn't see me shaking like a like a leaf. It was. It was very 363 00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:58,860 odd. It was sad to watch really 364 00:21:58,949 --> 00:22:00,749 John C. Dvorak: low blood sugar or something. 365 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:04,950 Adam Curry: Maybe Maybe she was just trying to not morph back 366 00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:07,500 into a reptile. And it was no, she's trying to stop the fight. 367 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:09,930 Fight fighting the transformation. 368 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:15,450 John C. Dvorak: Also, the outer skin could be constricting her 369 00:22:15,450 --> 00:22:16,710 because he had been needed to 370 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:19,530 Adam Curry: know yes, it's time to shed and get a new one. Yes. 371 00:22:19,530 --> 00:22:23,460 Shed shed time. Yes. All right. Hey, everybody, if you've never 372 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:27,600 heard this show, you're hearing it now. You know what we're all 373 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,050 about? 374 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:30,870 John C. Dvorak: Lizard. Yeah. 375 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,230 Adam Curry: And that's kind of what I have taken seriously. 376 00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,560 That's kind of what I have directly from a way to do that. 377 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,460 One more thing. 378 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:40,590 John C. Dvorak: But did you get any mh 17 stuff? 379 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:42,870 Adam Curry: Yes, I did. I did. What do you guys have 380 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:47,310 John C. Dvorak: a clip from PBS. You kind of wraps it. I think 381 00:22:47,340 --> 00:22:50,460 international prosecutors charged for men with murder 382 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:54,600 today for blasting a Malaysian Airlines plane out of the sky 383 00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:58,740 over Ukraine in 2014. It happened in a region controlled 384 00:22:58,740 --> 00:23:02,370 by Ukrainian rebels that were backed by Russia. The attack 385 00:23:02,370 --> 00:23:07,260 killed all 298 people on the flight from Amsterdam. Dutch 386 00:23:07,290 --> 00:23:10,530 officials say the suspects probably thought it was a 387 00:23:10,530 --> 00:23:14,100 Ukrainian military plane. And they used a Russian missile to 388 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:14,760 destroy it. 389 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:19,950 Unknown: They assaulted that it was brought in in the area where 390 00:23:19,950 --> 00:23:24,030 they were in charge and it was brought to the launch site. And 391 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:28,410 from this land Launch Site, site, the mhf D was shut down. 392 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,870 And they were responsible for this whole operation, 393 00:23:31,379 --> 00:23:34,139 John C. Dvorak: Russia and Ukraine for bid extradition of 394 00:23:34,139 --> 00:23:37,769 their citizens. But prosecutors say the suspects will be tried 395 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:39,839 in absentia, next March. 396 00:23:40,110 --> 00:23:43,500 Adam Curry: Now there's a lot of weird stuff. First of all, this 397 00:23:43,530 --> 00:23:47,070 appears to be once again a belling cat analysis. It hasn't 398 00:23:47,070 --> 00:23:50,970 changed much. And they're taking credit for it. And then they're 399 00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:56,040 on the team, the JIT, the joint investigation team, what what I 400 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,210 keep hearing is international court and international lawyers. 401 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:05,280 But I don't think this is not IPCC or they're not the ICC of 402 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,300 the International Criminal Court. This is a a court in the 403 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:13,710 Netherlands that is conducting this. As far as I can tell, I 404 00:24:13,710 --> 00:24:17,400 don't maybe it's a division of but it's it's actually it's the 405 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:25,020 same guys are the same judge who prosecuted here to builders, for 406 00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:30,510 racism for public racism, if you remember that. Yeah. So it's the 407 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:34,170 same guy who is the same judge who will be again, this is just 408 00:24:34,170 --> 00:24:37,350 an indictment. This is not proof of anything. It's an official 409 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:40,620 indictment, and in March, they're going to bring it before 410 00:24:40,620 --> 00:24:44,880 trial, which okay, we'll see. And I was able to get at least 411 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,510 one ditch guy to make fun of this. He was talking about how 412 00:24:48,510 --> 00:24:51,270 clear it is that this has got to be divisions men. 413 00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:54,000 Unknown: Prosecutors say they were commanding separatists in 414 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,290 eastern Ukraine in 2014. Losing on the battlefield, they found 415 00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:00,870 senior military and government officials. As in Russia, 416 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,910 desperate for weapons and support. Calls intercepted by 417 00:25:05,910 --> 00:25:09,480 Ukrainian intelligence, a part of the evidence unveiled today, 418 00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:12,570 along with footage found on the internet of the missile launcher 419 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:14,670 dispatched from Russia and more. 420 00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:19,050 There's forensic that there's witnesses that is wiretap. That 421 00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:22,680 is data analysis. And when you go through all those layers, 422 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:26,910 then at the end, you can say 11185. 423 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,880 Adam Curry: There you go. That's how we do it in Europe, 424 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,550 everybody. Vaughn Vaughn, and Vaughn is 511185. That's how we 425 00:25:35,550 --> 00:25:39,660 convict people actually three. That's how we convict people 426 00:25:39,660 --> 00:25:43,800 here. Which I am submitting for the end of show ISO. 427 00:25:45,150 --> 00:25:47,190 John C. Dvorak: Well, I only have one and I play my 428 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:50,670 industrial ISO, which I pulled from Trump's our 90 minute 429 00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:54,750 speech. Okay, in Orlando, where he announced that he's running 430 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:57,360 for president winning, winning, 431 00:25:57,570 --> 00:26:02,640 Adam Curry: winning. I don't know, I think 11185 I think, 432 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:05,550 John C. Dvorak: yeah, I think there's a slight funnier, I 433 00:26:05,550 --> 00:26:08,520 Adam Curry: think I kind of got you on that one. We didn't have 434 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,770 breaking news just before the show started 435 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,650 presidents offering his first reaction now to the shoot down 436 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:16,440 of an American drone by the Iranians last night, the 437 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,580 President issuing a one sentence tweet saying Iran made a very 438 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:23,610 big mistake that coming just in the past couple of minutes. At 439 00:26:23,610 --> 00:26:25,410 the same time, we're getting information that there is 440 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:28,440 scheduled to be a meeting here at the White House, to gauge 441 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,580 response to the Iranian shoot down the President's tweet arann 442 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:35,460 made a very big mistake, of course begging the question of 443 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:37,860 what the White House and what the administration is prepared 444 00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:41,460 to do about it, if anything, any kind of response at all. I spoke 445 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:43,770 to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary just 446 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,280 a few minutes ago. She said the President was briefed last night 447 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,580 and has been briefed again this morning on what the US military 448 00:26:50,580 --> 00:26:53,790 knows about that shoot down so no indication at this point of 449 00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:57,270 what any potential US response would be. But the President I 450 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:59,790 don't think you can call this saber rattling maybe just a 451 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:02,250 Twitter rattle but issuing a one sentence statement on Twitter 452 00:27:02,250 --> 00:27:04,380 here in reaction to that shutdown, guys? I mean, there's 453 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:04,860 a reaction 454 00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:06,990 John C. Dvorak: in the market crude oil is jumping on this 455 00:27:06,990 --> 00:27:07,860 news. WTI. 456 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:09,240 Now up 5%. 457 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Adam Curry: There we go. That makes somebody happy. Yeah. Is 458 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,220 this a deja vu? Twitter rattling? Yes. This is a deja vu 459 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:20,760 term or a moment for you as well. This they shot down a 460 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,100 drone? Did we just go through this? A while ago? They shot 461 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,650 down a drone. And then it was like, oh, and they didn't they 462 00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:30,180 didn't they grab the drone? 463 00:27:31,290 --> 00:27:34,140 John C. Dvorak: Well, they did. years ago, they grabbed a couple 464 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:37,890 of years ago, somewhere in Iran, if you remember, they were 465 00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:43,140 trading it around. Nobody said much about it. Dan, on shooting 466 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:47,160 down the drone just cost money on Tuesday. And there's also the 467 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,630 debate whether it was over Iranian territory. Well, if you 468 00:27:51,630 --> 00:27:54,600 look at why does it if it wasn't over the territory, what 469 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,830 territory would it be over? 470 00:27:55,950 --> 00:28:00,210 Adam Curry: I I dispute this International Water bullcrap. 471 00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:03,450 Because the Strait of Hormuz, it's like you're either UAE or 472 00:28:03,450 --> 00:28:07,140 you're I mean, you gotta be right in some berries, small, 473 00:28:07,170 --> 00:28:11,070 small piece of what are we doing? They're flying our 474 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:12,810 drones. Come on, 475 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:15,240 John C. Dvorak: we got a drone base, right, you're off to the 476 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:17,550 Adam Curry: Djibouti is on the other side. It's on the other 477 00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:20,910 side. It's on the Djibouti is. It's on the other one. Yeah, 478 00:28:20,910 --> 00:28:25,920 that's where we fly in from. But still, it's like, come on. I did 479 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,790 get this email on Tuesday, which is anonymous, I was staying at a 480 00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:32,880 hotel in Cambridge, UK on Thursday night. Last week, there 481 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,330 were several pilots and CO pilots of F 15. Staying there. 482 00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:40,560 They just flown over to the UK on their way to Iran refueling 483 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,770 in midair four times on the way over the pains planes were being 484 00:28:43,770 --> 00:28:47,310 fitted out and checked before flying on. So something is 485 00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:51,420 probably likely to occur over there in the next few days. And 486 00:28:51,420 --> 00:28:54,000 I don't know if that's related to the drone. But I didn't know 487 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520 that there were F 15 flying around and why didn't we just 488 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,840 use whatever we have on our in our fleet? Don't we have a whole 489 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,540 fleet that we sent over there with an aircraft carrier sitting 490 00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:06,720 there? So why are we sneaking in F fifteens and the through the 491 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,950 back door is because 492 00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:09,660 John C. Dvorak: it would be obvious when we took off from a 493 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:14,550 carrier. Now you can the carriers just a decoy. 494 00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:20,610 Adam Curry: So we shut down our own drone, maybe just asking us 495 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:21,570 I just no idea 496 00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:23,670 John C. Dvorak: that one of the FFTs took the drone out. That 497 00:29:23,670 --> 00:29:26,070 was the first thing I thought possible. We can't trust 498 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:30,840 anything going on during this little moment. No. And this is 499 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,470 the classic false flag moment. We're just waiting for something 500 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:35,010 to happen. 501 00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:38,760 Adam Curry: And so something that happened a month ago is now 502 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,700 become the big news about, oh, Iran. They're 10 days away from 503 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,030 enriching uranium weapons grade, which is bull 504 00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:51,510 John C. Dvorak: crap. Go back to the 90s and hear the same thing. 505 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:51,600 It's 506 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Adam Curry: just such bull crap. I mean, there are 3.6% to be 507 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,670 weapons grade you gotta be like 70 80% It's it takes a little 508 00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:02,340 bit long longer, but it's always 10 days 509 00:30:02,370 --> 00:30:04,950 John C. Dvorak: designed to bomb they haven't designed. We know 510 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:07,650 exactly you got to put that thing on Iraq supposed to be 511 00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:13,170 supposedly they're using a Pakistani North Korea design I 512 00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:16,260 have a clip across North Korean bombs, by the way are very 513 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:17,340 small. This is 514 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:19,110 Adam Curry: from Channel Four in the UK. 515 00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:22,350 Unknown: It is a crisis which arguably began in Washington 516 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,890 when President Trump labeled these Iranian Revolutionary 517 00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:30,210 Guards as terrorists back in April and tightened sanctions on 518 00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:33,720 their country. Then the Americans sent an aircraft 519 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,400 carrier group and B 52 bombers to the Gulf. They said in 520 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,870 response to an unspecified Iranian threat. Last month, 521 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:46,980 President Rouhani announced that Iran was ramping up its nuclear 522 00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:50,670 fuel production natural reducing its compliance with the deal 523 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:55,620 that President Trump walked away from a year ago. And today the 524 00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:59,370 Iranians chose one of their nuclear plants as the venue to 525 00:30:59,370 --> 00:31:02,910 announce that their supply of uranium will breach the deals 526 00:31:02,910 --> 00:31:07,380 limit in 10 days time, what is a desperate bid to be allowed to 527 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:12,300 sell oil, so desperate that a spokesman even delivered it in 528 00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:13,020 English, 529 00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:19,080 there will be another set of actions. If after 60 days, they 530 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,740 will not 531 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:24,210 even amend their commitments. We are suspending we are not 532 00:31:24,210 --> 00:31:27,570 revoking the commitments, we are not removing the commitment. 533 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:32,340 Iran's economy is being crippled by US sanctions, as the 534 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:35,910 Americans are threatening any company anywhere which trades 535 00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:40,080 with Iran. The Chinese say they will defy Washington and carry 536 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,400 on buying oil. But the Europeans have tried and so far failed to 537 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,420 bypass the Americans. Today, they said they would keep trying 538 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,420 amid fears that nuclear deal will collapse. 539 00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:55,290 So our focus is not to enter into a blame game or given 540 00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:59,940 responsibility for a collapse of a deal that might come. Our 541 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:04,290 focus is to keep the agreement in place and keep the 542 00:32:04,290 --> 00:32:05,370 implementation of it. 543 00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:10,440 Adam Curry: Now when I hear them saying is, hey, Europe and 544 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:16,140 Russia and checking us out. I don't hear any strong Iran going 545 00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:22,770 her. We don't care, we're going to build bombs. Now. Listen, 546 00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:23,010 there's 547 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:26,010 John C. Dvorak: also the element has not explored much in these 548 00:32:26,010 --> 00:32:29,160 stories, which is how much oil is China buying? And how are 549 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,180 they getting it there? And 550 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:32,730 Adam Curry: how are they paying for it? Well, the 551 00:32:32,730 --> 00:32:35,160 John C. Dvorak: other thing is, I have to assume I don't know 552 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:41,130 what it sound like I know what to call my podcaster podcast, I 553 00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:44,520 had to assume I would act like a podcaster here and I mentioned 554 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,360 that the Chinese probably aren't paying top dollar for the best 555 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,760 price. Always looking for best prices. And yeah, which is 556 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,900 probably galling to the Iranians, but the Chinese market 557 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,900 would suck up all the Iranian oil if it you know if I could 558 00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:02,100 it's 559 00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:04,320 Adam Curry: and that's and that's and that's part of what 560 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,970 Iran was asking for is circumvent this financial block, 561 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,170 which I don't like I really despise that. You know, the 562 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:17,160 John C. Dvorak: cutting people off advising swift Yeah, thank 563 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,380 Adam Curry: you cutting people off from the payment system. 564 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:24,360 It's so mean that's that's that's war war actions in my 565 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,780 book. 566 00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:26,580 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's what happened. Alex Jones. 567 00:33:28,170 --> 00:33:29,700 Adam Curry: What do you mean? What do you mean? 568 00:33:30,030 --> 00:33:32,670 John C. Dvorak: Well, they cut him off from all the outlets and 569 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:37,620 Pay Pal and pick him up. I think okay. Yeah. And Alex Jones. I 570 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:42,000 think Pay Pal still picks him up. It was it was Wikipedia who 571 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,880 everybody dropped from payments. Remember, was it No, 572 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Adam Curry: no, it was wiki leaks. 573 00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:55,020 John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. Yes, wiki leaks. I met WikiLeaks, 574 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,350 Adam Curry: but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Infowars got the 575 00:33:58,350 --> 00:34:01,380 platform from payment systems to I'm pretty sure 576 00:34:01,469 --> 00:34:04,229 John C. Dvorak: it could be Yeah. And then the latest of 577 00:34:04,229 --> 00:34:05,639 course is MailChimp 578 00:34:05,969 --> 00:34:09,239 Adam Curry: go yes yes, we can't have anything about it no anti 579 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,379 Vaxxer stuff they 580 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:13,080 John C. Dvorak: will gatekeepers of society when did this happen? 581 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,100 Adam Curry: Well yes, this is exactly what they are 582 00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:23,340 gatekeepers of society this is more of our how we have been 583 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:28,470 looking at this D platforming this the big purge yeah in 584 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:33,810 MailChimp Do they not have a bit first of all, I'm sure they're 585 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:38,160 used by tons of brands and commercial companies who use 586 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,640 them to communicate with their customers and they just don't 587 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,980 want any controversy connected to their name. That's what it's 588 00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:51,600 about we don't want any stories about our work service 589 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,420 John C. Dvorak: user name MailChimp is not know unless you 590 00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:56,490 put the logo at the bottom. Okay, okay. 591 00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:59,640 Adam Curry: Here we go. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, we've 592 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,880 got a headline here it seems that anti vaxxers are using 593 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:06,630 email systems like MailChimp to spread their message of 594 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:12,630 disinformation no film 11 That would be exactly why they would 595 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:18,900 want to take anybody who's doing that off I don't find that very 596 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:21,030 controversial make sense? 597 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,160 John C. Dvorak: make sense to you 598 00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:29,010 Adam Curry: yes, it's it is quite interesting how many 599 00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:33,930 people are mad at me for even suggesting that this is not 600 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,490 Silicon Valley actively trying to shut up people and censor 601 00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:40,500 conservative viewpoints? 602 00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:44,040 John C. Dvorak: No, I agree with you I don't think is that as 603 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,450 much as it is to brand the brand safe brand safe message 604 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,410 Adam Curry: in fact we have well there's a lot going on we 605 00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:55,020 John C. Dvorak: have no want to be associated with that 606 00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,430 Adam Curry: well, let me here's a little background are not 607 00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:02,550 John C. Dvorak: derived to me if you're a service company Yeah. 608 00:36:03,210 --> 00:36:06,240 Your service company does that mean that the cat guys who make 609 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,540 tin cans you know, they have to be this way to I mean, they make 610 00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:14,070 Tin Can manufacturing products, FMC Food Machinery Corporation 611 00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:18,840 they're making a big line of candy bar makers is going to put 612 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,630 the whole thing engineer candy bar system in a candy bar 613 00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:24,900 factory, but the candy bars are going to be you know something 614 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:29,730 that's you know, hate Obama bar. Well, you can't now we're not 615 00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:30,750 selling your equipment. 616 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:34,590 Adam Curry: Well luckily not far from here. We have the con lions 617 00:36:34,590 --> 00:36:38,280 Festival, which I think is just close to they'll the big parties 618 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,330 are tomorrow night. And this is the big Advertising Festival. 619 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:46,590 It's always on the heels of the con Film Festival. Now all the 620 00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:49,230 advertisers go there and they all hang out and drink with 621 00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:53,400 potential advert. Well, it's really the agencies and they go 622 00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:57,600 you know, they take the brand and the and the media buyers out 623 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,510 and they fly him around and helicopters get them laid on 624 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:04,530 stinky horrors. It's a fantastic. I've been there. It's 625 00:37:04,530 --> 00:37:09,960 a fantastic event. And well here's just how to get you into 626 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:16,020 the vibe of how how the industry thinks. Here's an interview of 627 00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:20,460 course we had CNBC oh no is now Fox, Fox Business News money, 628 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:24,420 honey. I'm Maria Bartiromo on the scene she loves to hang out 629 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:28,110 there and con. And she's talking to I think one of the big ad 630 00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:33,150 buyer guys at Ogilvy huge advertising company. Just a 631 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:35,070 little bit about the industry a little background her 632 00:37:35,130 --> 00:37:37,440 John C. Dvorak: joining me right now is Ogilvy worldwide chief 633 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,010 executive, John cipher, John, great to see you thanks so much 634 00:37:41,010 --> 00:37:43,800 for joining us to be with you are also the president for the 635 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,800 creative effectiveness. Lions tell us more about that. 636 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:49,410 It's one of the toughest lions to win because you can't just be 637 00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:51,960 creative in your work, you have to show that the creativity 638 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,330 actually makes a difference in the marketplace. So did you grow 639 00:37:54,330 --> 00:37:56,970 the clients business? Did you improve the health of the brand? 640 00:37:57,150 --> 00:38:00,360 So the standard of market outcomes is much higher? 641 00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:06,000 When you look at this grouping of ads that we see over the ill? 642 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,970 Yeah, why is she getting 643 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,740 Adam Curry: but I want I want everyone to listen to this 644 00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:14,400 because you understand how these people and I've been a part of 645 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,930 this industry, how they are completely just into the brand. 646 00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:22,410 And as the brand the brand lives in the brand speaks and the 647 00:38:22,410 --> 00:38:26,430 brand listens and people connect with the brand. This is why 648 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:28,140 things have to be brand safe 649 00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:31,290 John C. Dvorak: last year. What are some of those that really 650 00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:32,070 stand out? 651 00:38:32,130 --> 00:38:35,250 Well, I think anything any brand that gets part of the social 652 00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:36,060 conversation, 653 00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:39,060 Adam Curry: so a lot of the the please pay attention to social 654 00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:39,810 conversation. 655 00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,140 John C. Dvorak: The submissions I've seen so far in the jury is 656 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:46,590 the impact of creating through cultural conversation, did we 657 00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:49,080 get attention? Did people want to talk about us? Did they want 658 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,170 to share what they learned from that brand with friends and 659 00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:55,320 family? And did it sort of strike a chord more broadly, and 660 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,810 culture? Those are the those are the ones that are really getting 661 00:38:57,810 --> 00:38:58,680 the most attention. So 662 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,490 and those really resonate, because it's about issues that 663 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,020 we're all talking about. Exactly. It's 664 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:07,170 all part of a mash up of kind of everyday life from what I 665 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:11,340 consume to what my politics are to how I feel about the world in 666 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:13,620 general. It's all kind of coming together. 667 00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:16,260 You know, increasingly, as I'm speaking to Chief Marketing 668 00:39:16,260 --> 00:39:19,200 Officers this week, I'm finding that it doesn't matter if you're 669 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,260 the most successful brand or an emerging brand. Everybody's 670 00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:24,330 dealing with the same issues and one of those issues is 671 00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:27,660 attracting young people attracting women. How do you do 672 00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:30,720 it? Well, every brand today is trying to be relevant and 673 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,570 authentic to who they are. So having a strong point of view 674 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:35,760 because it's not just about selling something that's a 675 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,820 better product. A lot of these audiences want to know what you 676 00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:41,520 think What do you care about in a better product in the world? 677 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,550 Why should you matter to them? And then how do they matter to 678 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:48,030 you so every every brand is trying to think through how to 679 00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:50,700 be more relevant and authentic and how it engages 680 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,950 its audience which is why somebody like for example, the 681 00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:58,260 NFL is using their players yes to talk to you know resonate 682 00:39:58,260 --> 00:40:02,190 with with viewers because viewers don't, you know, they 683 00:40:02,190 --> 00:40:05,010 don't necessarily react to logos but they react to people. Well, 684 00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:05,070 the 685 00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:07,440 one thing we've said over and over is you can't fake it 686 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,530 anymore. If it's not true on the inside, no one's gonna believe 687 00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:14,430 it's true. I totally react to your product and in the NFL 688 00:40:14,430 --> 00:40:16,560 case, that will be the people playing the game. It's 689 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,250 authenticity. 690 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,830 Adam Curry: I know. I know. It was painful. You know, it was 691 00:40:19,830 --> 00:40:20,700 painful to listen to 692 00:40:21,090 --> 00:40:24,270 John C. Dvorak: the biggest load of crap. Probably the one of the 693 00:40:24,270 --> 00:40:26,370 greatest clips you've ever played. You should put that 694 00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:30,870 aside for the day, but it makes me so sick I'm not giving it to 695 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,480 Adam Curry: this shows you how insane people are about the 696 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,650 brand and why they don't want even MailChimp is a brand. 697 00:40:40,830 --> 00:40:43,890 You're so stupid cheap with a with a with an envelope and a 698 00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:46,980 little mailman hat. Yeah, people don't want their brand 699 00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:50,490 associated with anything, no thought in authentic. That's not 700 00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:53,730 exactly it's authenticity. It's all about and so that's why here 701 00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:57,390 at the con Lyon Lyon Festival, the big advertisers, social 702 00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:01,410 media have formed the Alliance they wanted to fight unsafe 703 00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:06,330 content online. Yes. Procter and Gamble, Facebook, are now 704 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,310 addressing hate speech and other problems together. And this is 705 00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:17,310 obviously it's the near the end the name of this thing is have 706 00:41:17,310 --> 00:41:21,660 the actual name of this. What is this thing called this alliance? 707 00:41:22,590 --> 00:41:26,070 The Global Alliance for responsible media and in this 708 00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:29,640 participating Procter and Gamble, General Mills, Diageo, 709 00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:35,010 MasterCard, Facebook, Twitter, alphabet, Omnicom WPP you've got 710 00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:38,430 all the big ones there, right there. You don't need anything 711 00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:42,780 else. And what they want to do is they want to have all these 712 00:41:42,780 --> 00:41:49,170 rules and want everyone to to understand what is necessary for 713 00:41:49,290 --> 00:41:53,730 for advertising to take place on the Silicon Valley Social 714 00:41:53,730 --> 00:41:57,630 companies and on YouTube. Digital Advertising will make up 715 00:41:57,630 --> 00:42:00,570 more than half of global ad sales for the first time this 716 00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:04,170 year, according to the latest forecast by Magna global part of 717 00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:09,030 inter inter public, but social media platforms have been tarred 718 00:42:09,390 --> 00:42:12,390 by repeated revelations that they are hosting political 719 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:16,470 disinformation and malicious content. In one of the most 720 00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:21,180 recent examples at&t Clorox, Nestle, McDonald's, and 721 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:25,470 fortnight publisher Epic Games paused or halted their YouTube 722 00:42:25,470 --> 00:42:28,470 advertising. Following reports viewers were making 723 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:32,880 inappropriate comments on videos of young girls. YouTube later 724 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,120 suspended comments on most videos that feature minors, so 725 00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:45,330 they're fighting her. Guys, so they are fighting. And it is a 726 00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:51,120 full on war between established companies, companies, maybe even 727 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,210 who are just trying to compete, for instance, Vox media, which 728 00:42:54,210 --> 00:42:59,040 is arguably a mainstream company where their NBC investment of a 729 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,630 quarter billion dollars, and I'd say so I, I'm not a big fan of 730 00:43:03,630 --> 00:43:08,610 Nilay Patel. Like it's always thought he's kind of swarmy he's 731 00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:12,390 the indie the boss over at the verge to the editor in chief or 732 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:16,680 something, which is a Vox media property. I got to give him big 733 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:22,350 props for really taking it to Facebook, and just just spewing 734 00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:26,310 in their face in their eyes. With this recent revelation, 735 00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:30,030 they got three of the content moderators, who worked for 736 00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:33,060 cognisant, which is a company we've talked about many times 737 00:43:33,060 --> 00:43:36,720 we've had, we've had many reports of people, you know, 738 00:43:36,750 --> 00:43:40,290 looking through the through what, what do you people are 739 00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:44,070 asking Google to do, but also pure content, moderation of 740 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:48,630 uploads to YouTube, and in this case, to Facebook. And not only 741 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:53,250 did they publish quite a great Expo ze of what really goes on 742 00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:56,610 and there's always this poor, these poor people, they're all 743 00:43:56,610 --> 00:44:01,020 their mental health, but screw that this is a direct hit job on 744 00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:05,280 Facebook. And I pulled the a couple of quotes from a YouTube 745 00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:08,970 ID a funny enough, a YouTube interview that has been 746 00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:12,750 published, which I actually was hard to find again this morning 747 00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:15,120 when I was trying to pull the clip from it. And you'll 748 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,560 understand taking the authenticity that oh, that's the 749 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,990 brand brand. You'll understand why there's a problem when this 750 00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:27,330 is out there. And this is what you're dealing with 751 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,400 John C. Dvorak: content. Moderation is a really difficult 752 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,850 job, you have to take Facebook's policies which can change every 753 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:37,110 day, and then apply them to decide what stays up on Facebook 754 00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:41,010 and Instagram. A lot comes down. A couple of months ago, I was 755 00:44:41,010 --> 00:44:44,910 contacted by some moderators who worked for Facebook in Tampa, 756 00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:48,450 Florida through a company called cognizant and they told me that 757 00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:51,540 they wanted to go on the record so they told you we're gonna put 758 00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:56,910 you in a queue of content that is dedicated to graphic violence 759 00:44:56,910 --> 00:44:57,630 and hate speech. 760 00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:01,290 Adam Curry: Yes, you would get the occasional random thing, but 761 00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:04,380 for the most part, it was always graphic violence and hate speech 762 00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:06,210 because that's all that was coming in for us what 763 00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:07,860 John C. Dvorak: were like some of the kinds of things that you 764 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:10,770 would see that would be really hard for you. Where do I start? 765 00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:14,580 Unknown: Animals, mostly animals, the abuse of animals, 766 00:45:14,730 --> 00:45:20,100 I've seen them had a puppy with a rope hanging it. I've seen a 767 00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,860 pit of pigs and they threw fire and you can hear the pigs 768 00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:25,200 screaming. I don't wanna get emotional talking about the 769 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,620 animals. 770 00:45:25,650 --> 00:45:29,850 Adam Curry: There was one where there was a baby that was there 771 00:45:29,850 --> 00:45:33,060 were twin babies from like Saudi Arabia, and the mother was 772 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,210 dropping the baby on the ground. This is when we saw over and 773 00:45:36,210 --> 00:45:39,120 over again, and then choke the baby. And you hear the baby 774 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,980 gurgling, and trying to breathe. And for days, it infected my 775 00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:47,160 mind, I had to know what happened to this baby, because 776 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,340 I'd seen it over and over and over again. And luckily the baby 777 00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:51,180 was okay. 778 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,570 Unknown: I just think about all the animals all the time. And 779 00:45:54,570 --> 00:45:56,580 that's what I'm still thinking about, even though I 780 00:45:56,580 --> 00:46:00,270 John C. Dvorak: left. Yeah. Do you remember the first video 781 00:46:00,270 --> 00:46:02,160 that you saw, it was 782 00:46:02,190 --> 00:46:05,100 Adam Curry: a video in a different language. And it was 783 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:08,940 these two teenagers, and they came across an iguana on the 784 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:13,530 street. And one of the kids grabbed the iguanas by the tail. 785 00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:18,780 And they started to smash the iguana onto the ground. And you 786 00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:23,910 could just hear the iguanas screaming. And that was one of 787 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:28,200 the first videos I saw on that queue. And they just, they kept 788 00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:32,730 slamming that you go on onto the ground, and the guano just kept 789 00:46:32,730 --> 00:46:37,110 screaming and screaming, and then screaming stopped, and it's 790 00:46:37,110 --> 00:46:41,190 just a bloody pile. And the kids were just laughing at the wanna, 791 00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:45,150 we're able to remove that video from Facebook. Now, since that 792 00:46:45,150 --> 00:46:50,370 video had no title and no caption, we were supposed to 793 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:56,610 send it to a different queue for Spanish speaking. But I don't 794 00:46:56,610 --> 00:46:59,640 think there really was a Spanish speaking cue that was taking 795 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,330 care of that. 796 00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:04,380 So this whole piece in the video, which is 15 minutes long, 797 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:09,540 is reiterating that Facebook has you keep here, it came back and 798 00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:12,120 there was again and it was re uploaded and we couldn't delete 799 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,400 it. We didn't know how to delete it. The rules say don't delete 800 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,600 it. And if you want to get any group of people riled up against 801 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:22,770 a company, make sure it's cruelty to animals, people gives 802 00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:27,510 a shit, I choked the baby, what you killed any Guana people are 803 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:32,310 gonna lose their crap over this Well done. Well done Vox media. 804 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:36,870 Very, very good. Though no one will have to do anything. You 805 00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:41,580 won't have to have all these these rules in Congress, in 806 00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:45,990 which there's no legislation. You hear about the legislation 807 00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:47,310 that they're proposing. Yeah, 808 00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:49,050 John C. Dvorak: it's just a bunch of virtual signaling by 809 00:47:49,050 --> 00:47:51,660 the Democrats are pulling a lot of stunts at the moment 810 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:53,490 reparation. And 811 00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:56,220 Adam Curry: we'll get to that in a second. This, this is the 812 00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:58,740 Hawley bill. And 813 00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:04,470 John C. Dvorak: we're Smoot who, then everybody, a few people out 814 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:05,940 there, we'll get that joke going. 815 00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:11,160 Adam Curry: So the the Hawley bill, essentially would have the 816 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:19,710 government appoint people who determine what is not as is and 817 00:48:19,710 --> 00:48:26,880 is not allowed when it comes to moderation and or algorithms 818 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:32,340 that might be performing editorial tasks. And of course, 819 00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:36,060 this will only apply to wet, you know, social, or companies that 820 00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:41,160 have 30 million active users a month, or at least 500 million 821 00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:45,930 in revenue every month. So it's really targeted at Silicon 822 00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:50,940 Valley. Things like we're safe. It's no way safe. Oh, yeah, 823 00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:53,790 totally. Well, no agenda. So this this is the next thing I'll 824 00:48:53,820 --> 00:49:00,240 just touch on this briefly. I truly believe that we can just 825 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,460 let it you don't need to regulate this is all going to 826 00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:05,400 take care of itself because advertisers the more of the 827 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,430 stories there are and there's plenty of incentive for 828 00:49:08,430 --> 00:49:12,540 mainstream in particular print and television and you know, 829 00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:18,030 mainstream guys to keep pointing out how evil these companies are 830 00:49:18,030 --> 00:49:22,230 and how they can't handle AI can't do it. That's finally 831 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:24,570 starting people starting to figure that out that artificial 832 00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:29,640 intelligence can't weed this stuff out. And and so it's 833 00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:33,480 they're going to keep shutting down all of their properties. 834 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,660 You know, just like MailChimp take off anyone who might be 835 00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:40,380 talking about vaccines being unsafe, get rid of everything 836 00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:46,200 until you basically have an AOL. You're going to have an AOL 837 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,090 situation with YouTube, where people or even Twitter Twitter 838 00:49:51,090 --> 00:49:54,840 may be a better example, where you're just in this box of 839 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,800 safeness. And people will keep telling you about hey, you know, 840 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,010 there's this mastered On there's this federation thing over here. 841 00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:05,070 You should check this out. Oh, no, no, I want to stay here. It 842 00:50:05,070 --> 00:50:08,520 was just like America Online. Everyone's eight. Can we get a 843 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,760 browser to the internet? No, no, no, you just use your key words 844 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,880 you can all the content you want here. It's okay. It's all safe. 845 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,030 And then they opened it up a little bit and gave you a crappy 846 00:50:18,030 --> 00:50:20,880 ass browser. And people are like, Oh my god, this is great. 847 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,540 This is scary. This is all the cool stuff. people gravitate 848 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,880 towards that they're not going to want to stay in these 849 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,680 complete brand safe environments. It's boring. So 850 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,600 with that, I'm just making it prediction. gab.com is on July 851 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,190 4, they will become a part of the Federation. And already 852 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:46,470 we're seeing I'm getting emails now. Hey, are you uh, are you 853 00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:49,110 moderating? Uh, no agenda? social.com? 854 00:50:49,110 --> 00:50:53,550 Are you? Are you the moderator of those club? Oh, uh, yeah. 855 00:50:53,970 --> 00:50:57,300 Well, you need to block God in advance, man, we can't have that 856 00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:01,650 on the on the, we can't have that in the Federation. Where 857 00:51:01,650 --> 00:51:01,950 it's like, 858 00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:03,030 John C. Dvorak: like, Gavin. 859 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,700 Adam Curry: It's the stupidest thing. It's like, people, they 860 00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:12,000 left Twitter and Facebook because they felt it was no fun. 861 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,460 And you know, and there were too many Nazis. I don't know what it 862 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:17,760 was. And now they're going to their little safe spaces and 863 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,350 blocking everything. You need controversy? You see, this is 864 00:51:22,350 --> 00:51:25,830 this is what people don't get. What is it about just Twitter as 865 00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:29,310 an example, you need the controversy with the you need 866 00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:32,160 the drugs added in the hits, you know, like the dopamine hit, 867 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,340 like, Oh, I gotta like meet saying that someone's a shithead 868 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:37,770 I got more followers because you know, people listen to me 869 00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:41,670 because I talk smack about them. And the drug element is what 870 00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:44,700 will keep people going but if you remove the controversy, it's 871 00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:48,420 just it's not gonna be interesting. So, federate or die 872 00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:54,390 is my message. That's what it's going to be as cute. Here's Tim 873 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:57,270 Cook doing the commencement speech at Stanford virtue 874 00:51:57,270 --> 00:52:01,200 signaling. Meanwhile, he has while he is in he hasn't created 875 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,550 but his company is in charge of one of the biggest components of 876 00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:08,910 evil that exists today amongst social networking 877 00:52:08,940 --> 00:52:12,240 from the first oscillator built in the Hewlett Packard garage, 878 00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:15,480 to the iPhones that I know you're holding in your hands. 879 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:21,330 Social media, shareable videos, snaps and stories that connect 880 00:52:21,330 --> 00:52:26,790 half the people on earth. They all trace their roots to 881 00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:34,170 Stanford's backyard. But lately, it seems this industry is 882 00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:39,360 becoming better known for a less noble innovation. The belief 883 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,290 that you can claim credit without accepting 884 00:52:43,350 --> 00:52:52,650 responsibility. We see it every day now. With every data breach, 885 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:58,470 every privacy violation. Every blind, I turn to hate speech, 886 00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:05,220 fake news poisoning our national conversation, the false miracles 887 00:53:05,250 --> 00:53:11,070 in exchange for a single drop of your blood. Too many seem to 888 00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:15,690 think that good intentions, excuse away harmful outcomes. 889 00:53:16,890 --> 00:53:21,540 But whether you like it or not, what you build, and what you 890 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:27,690 create, define who you are. It feels a bit crazy that anyone 891 00:53:27,690 --> 00:53:32,340 should have to say this. But if you've built a chaos factory, 892 00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:37,200 you can't dodge responsibility for the chaos. Taking 893 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,490 responsibility means having the courage to think things through. 894 00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:45,000 Yeah, well. Big talk. Tom Collins, 895 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:48,270 John C. Dvorak: what is it when he become a philosopher? 896 00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:54,180 Adam Curry: Oh, please that's all he does. He's big talk for a 897 00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:58,740 company that created the the box that the rage factory lives in 898 00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:04,560 the chaos machine. It's alright, why don't you block all access 899 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,080 to the external X API's and ways for people to spy on you using 900 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,830 all the little bits and bobs inside the iPhone. It's really 901 00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:18,630 disingenuous what he's doing there. Just and and get this 902 00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:26,580 gabbed submitted a version of the browser that that I've been 903 00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:30,030 using on the desktop, which is fantastic, has all the elements 904 00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:33,330 of brave that I want it all the blocking and getting rid of 905 00:54:33,330 --> 00:54:37,560 tracking and you know, little VPN action there that sends 906 00:54:37,710 --> 00:54:42,150 tracking URLs to the bit bucket without all the overhead of the 907 00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:44,760 crypto and all the stuff they're trying to make money with. 908 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:48,360 They've created a version of that for iOS and it was 909 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,430 rejected, rejected for questionable content. It's a 910 00:54:53,430 --> 00:55:01,230 browser it's a browser. Now I think They may not be telling 911 00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:05,070 the whole truth. I think well, there may be something else 912 00:55:05,070 --> 00:55:10,260 going on because their, their developer account was they were 913 00:55:10,260 --> 00:55:12,630 locked out of their developer account. And I don't know what 914 00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:15,870 else is going on. But it without a doubt, without a doubt. It's 915 00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:22,380 virtue signaling. We don't want anything with Brave on our, on 916 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:24,120 our devices. And really 917 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:27,780 John C. Dvorak: always go ahead is also the fact and they kind 918 00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:32,460 of hinted at it. That the dissenter browser, which is what 919 00:55:32,460 --> 00:55:42,660 you're talking about is allows for independence threads outside 920 00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:46,800 of the normal back and forth that you have in comments. Yes, 921 00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:51,900 yeah. And it's some of in some instances, I've run into there, 922 00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:57,720 these these threads of comments from the descent browser 923 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,730 infrastructure are bigger. Yes, there you go in the comments 924 00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:07,290 that exist within the normal system, it's really kind of 925 00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:08,070 subversive 926 00:56:08,130 --> 00:56:10,860 Adam Curry: it's a great idea that they came up with is like, 927 00:56:10,890 --> 00:56:15,060 enable anyone to start a conversation thread around any 928 00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:19,110 URL, any website, any video anything. And I think that's 929 00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:21,300 probably a bigger issue. It's like, Oh, crap, it's like 930 00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:24,630 they're taken away our audience. They're the siphoning that often 931 00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:29,940 I using our systems. And they say that to the dissenter, gab 932 00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:33,480 guy say that they sent it to Department of Justice it did, 933 00:56:33,630 --> 00:56:39,090 probably at antitrust is probably should have gone to the 934 00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:45,570 Trade Administration, I think, DC FTC commission, but it is 935 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:53,310 it's noticeable what's going on? It truly is. And so I think, let 936 00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:56,190 him Let him let everyone run around do all their stuff. It's, 937 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,760 it could be five months, five years, 10 years. I don't know 938 00:56:59,790 --> 00:57:02,850 what eventually, everything just has to be decentralized. There's 939 00:57:02,850 --> 00:57:06,660 no other way about it. And the advertising model. Yeah, it'll 940 00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:10,350 last for a long time. But it's not a growth industry is not 941 00:57:10,350 --> 00:57:13,350 going to work because you cannot monetize the network in any 942 00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:18,630 fashion. Not even with ads at scale. Because killing animals 943 00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:24,450 races right. Never Ends. To good luck to him. Good luck to him. 944 00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:29,580 John C. Dvorak: Will I be joined? I was a member of gab, I 945 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,560 must be a Nazi problem. 946 00:57:31,770 --> 00:57:33,270 Adam Curry: What you must be a Nazi. 947 00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:36,660 John C. Dvorak: I've gone on there. And it seems like Twitter 948 00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:39,990 to me. I don't know why. What am I? What am I thinking? It looks 949 00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:42,540 like Twitter feels like Twitter looks like Twitter. Here's 950 00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:42,690 what's 951 00:57:42,690 --> 00:57:46,530 Adam Curry: interesting. Yesterday. So as everything 952 00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:49,590 moves towards a federated model, it will I think Twitter 953 00:57:49,590 --> 00:57:52,560 eventually you'll also be able to follow someone on Twitter 954 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,060 from from no agenda social or gab.com whatever that's that's I 955 00:57:57,060 --> 00:58:00,750 think, Dorsey actually is kind of painted that he sees that 956 00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:06,780 happening. But when people who are running so Mastodon dot 957 00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:10,290 social is a very big node on the federated network. And you know, 958 00:58:10,290 --> 00:58:14,160 we've been domain blocked because we're, we were branded 959 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,860 quite early as, because of, you know, one or two people who 960 00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:21,420 engaged in something with some social justice warrior. Then all 961 00:58:21,420 --> 00:58:24,750 of a sudden we're on a block list and you people don't see 962 00:58:24,750 --> 00:58:29,520 the irony of saying, we have blocked this entire domain this 963 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,930 entire group of people, because they're bigots and xenophobes. 964 00:58:35,610 --> 00:58:39,360 Is not blocking a whole group of people based on the action of 965 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,220 one definition of 966 00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:44,310 John C. Dvorak: bigotry and xenophobia. Thank you. 967 00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:46,920 Adam Curry: They don't see this irony 968 00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:50,910 John C. Dvorak: course not. It's for the better good I am 969 00:58:50,910 --> 00:58:54,690 Adam Curry: so so proud of our value for value network and the 970 00:58:54,690 --> 00:58:57,750 way we've done this and that we've been doing it for 11 years 971 00:58:57,750 --> 00:59:04,020 I'm I'm I'm very proud of that. In fact, I'm so proud that I'd 972 00:59:04,020 --> 00:59:05,970 like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning 973 00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:09,300 to you the man who put the sea in the con lions festival John 974 00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:10,200 sea good. 975 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,360 John C. Dvorak: Morning humans. I'm Karina monitorship. See 976 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,160 boots on the ground feet in the air substitute our names and 977 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:17,490 nights out 978 00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:20,400 Adam Curry: there in the morning to our trolls at the troll room. 979 00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:24,090 They are no agenda stream.com And they've been all over 980 00:59:24,090 --> 00:59:27,360 everything today all over the all over the map but you can 981 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,150 join there anytime. There's great shows, listen to of course 982 00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:34,230 the no agenda show live twice a week on Thursdays and but 983 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:37,470 there's many many other great shows, listen to and participate 984 00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:40,140 in the troll room. You can sit there and you can say something 985 00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:42,810 nice or troll or do whatever you want to just be completely 986 00:59:42,810 --> 00:59:47,850 passive. It is where we all meet no agenda. stream.com also a big 987 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,480 in the morning to cesium 137 He brought us the artwork for 988 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:59,430 episode 1147. The title of that episode was Oh tarde and we did 989 00:59:59,460 --> 01:00:03,120 go back came forth a few times about what we wanted to use. 990 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,870 This was the I heart dad Blackboard kind of for Father's 991 01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:10,950 Day, which we are we're basically suckers for the 992 01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:14,190 traditional artwork for a Mother's Day, Father's Day 993 01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:18,360 Christmas, maybe Valentine's Day. We argued about the 994 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,860 artwork. Let me see what else was 995 01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:22,320 John C. Dvorak: well, let's see what we got. We should probably 996 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,950 mention that once we rejected the funniest one, of course was 997 01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:29,970 Adam Curry: Oh Jake for glove, the glove cast 998 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,310 John C. Dvorak: glove cast by Mike Riley, especially when with 999 01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:37,530 the blood all over it. We felt that for Father's Day. This 1000 01:00:37,530 --> 01:00:39,990 might not be the most appropriate artwork. 1001 01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:41,880 Adam Curry: I mean, can you believe it? We didn't want to be 1002 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,470 deep platformed from ourselves. 1003 01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:47,040 John C. Dvorak: We did platformed. But that was the I 1004 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,840 think that was the best piece. Yeah. It didn't get picked. And 1005 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,760 the other pieces were dubious. It was a good Father's Day. By 1006 01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:59,940 me. There's some other Father's Day one, but none of them was 1007 01:00:59,970 --> 01:01:04,410 quite as as jazzy. Yeah, it was it was a strong piece of cesium 1008 01:01:04,410 --> 01:01:07,950 137, which is very professional looking kind of gimmicky thing. 1009 01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:08,640 Yeah. 1010 01:01:10,110 --> 01:01:12,480 Adam Curry: So we appreciate what the cesium did there. And 1011 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,050 that is, I just got a note from someone this morning. Who said 1012 01:01:16,050 --> 01:01:20,760 hacky here, he's doing a project for? It's like a he has a he 1013 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,160 wouldn't maybe he didn't specify some customer and they're doing 1014 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,270 podcast. And I've sold them on the idea that having art changed 1015 01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:31,830 with each episode is very good. suggests Yeah, this is the no 1016 01:01:31,830 --> 01:01:35,070 one's doing that I look genius by even proposing that. But how 1017 01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:39,150 do you do it? So explain to him where to what to do where to 1018 01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:39,930 change is part of the 1019 01:01:39,930 --> 01:01:44,160 John C. Dvorak: actual takes about 10 years? Yeah, yeah. Then 1020 01:01:44,250 --> 01:01:48,030 then the apps kind of figured out start spontaneously by two 1021 01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:53,400 guys. Yeah, there you go. Who just seemed to do all the 1022 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,480 artwork in the early days, they disappeared. And 1023 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,940 Adam Curry: And now Now we're up to what we must have 11 years we 1024 01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:05,640 have, I can tell you how many images we have. Now, of course, 1025 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,580 we haven't used all these images, and many are completely 1026 01:02:08,580 --> 01:02:09,150 inappropriate. 1027 01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:10,890 John C. Dvorak: But a lot of them get used as evergreens to 1028 01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:14,340 get used in a newsletter. There's some of them get used, 1029 01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:17,670 Adam Curry: as of this measure more than you think actually as 1030 01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:23,910 a yes. As of this measurement, 13,580 pieces of artwork and 11 1031 01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:28,080 year period. That is not bad. Yeah, that's 10 times the amount 1032 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:36,840 of shows. Yeah, so hallelujah. Anyway, as a part of our our D 1033 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:42,030 platform immunity, we don't have advertisers that we've, we chose 1034 01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:45,120 this very early on. And we said to people, if you want us to do 1035 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,610 this, we got to get paid somehow. And we came up with 1036 01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:52,230 this model, where you send us the value that you feel you 1037 01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:55,020 received out of listening to the program. And it turns out, a lot 1038 01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:57,180 of people get value, and they'd like to thank us for it. And 1039 01:02:57,180 --> 01:03:01,200 we'd like to thank them. By reading their donations on the 1040 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,900 air. We like to start early in the show, just like Hollywood, 1041 01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:07,950 oddly enough with our executive producers, and associated 1042 01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:10,320 John C. Dvorak: session that he only notes that we are obliged 1043 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,790 to read by rule, or those of the executive producers correct. And 1044 01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:19,500 people will continue to say in the olden days, when we started 1045 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,470 we read everything that was we didn't have that many donations. 1046 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,400 Now we got donations, and we got we got enough that was became 1047 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,830 that we started getting more donations that we said that do a 1048 01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:33,630 cut off. So we started reading all the notes above $50. Yeah. 1049 01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:37,170 Adam Curry: And then people started sending big long notes. 1050 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,720 John C. Dvorak: We ended up with at least two copies of war and 1051 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,220 peace by a couple of the guys sending in $51 We gotta 1052 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,280 Adam Curry: we gotta we gotta update we have to update that 1053 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,600 from not Warren Piece, but it has to be the entire Lord of the 1054 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,000 Rings series as something that we have to do a little hipper 1055 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,970 than a Warren Piece or you know, Game of Thrones alt all three 1056 01:03:56,970 --> 01:03:57,480 books. 1057 01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:03,570 John C. Dvorak: Geez. Anyway, so we had these people writing 1058 01:04:03,570 --> 01:04:07,620 these long Tomes. And it was getting it was taken up to show 1059 01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:12,180 the show half the show was yeah, thank you reading these long 1060 01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:15,570 notes for people who donate $50 So that's when we cut off the 1061 01:04:15,570 --> 01:04:19,230 $50 notes and we you want to you get mentioned and we will read 1062 01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:25,260 occasional notes from the between 50 and 200 but 200 and 1063 01:04:25,290 --> 01:04:28,650 up the notes we are we feel obliged to read them we read 1064 01:04:28,650 --> 01:04:31,680 them in their entirety and some of them are quite long. And we 1065 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,270 don't you know, we more or less appreciate the shorter notes and 1066 01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:40,140 push up because some people seem to have lost that memo and 1067 01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:43,680 they're writing notes as they're asking for jingo requests 1068 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:43,830 they're 1069 01:04:43,830 --> 01:04:46,440 Adam Curry: also very they're also very happy many of them 1070 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:49,500 when they achieve a knighthood or another status they're very 1071 01:04:49,950 --> 01:04:52,110 well we don't have a problem people just forget and you know, 1072 01:04:52,110 --> 01:04:55,860 so it's good to remind them that there is show to be done. So try 1073 01:04:55,860 --> 01:04:56,160 and kill 1074 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,040 John C. Dvorak: we have a show to do and so, did we do it this 1075 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,010 way we still get it A lot of people get mentioned a lot of 1076 01:05:02,010 --> 01:05:08,370 people get their notes read, and sometimes more than others. We 1077 01:05:08,370 --> 01:05:11,640 do have two executive producers and two Associate Executive. 1078 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,180 Executive producers for today's show we we have a gender 1079 01:05:15,180 --> 01:05:20,160 balance. Nice. It's a nice nice balance. We start off with 1080 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:25,290 Anonymous. It's $500. Gentlemen, your work is greatly greatly 1081 01:05:25,290 --> 01:05:28,740 appreciated. If you want to credit my nightly names sir. Sir 1082 01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:34,470 big third blog, third blog, their blog 30 for free, but 1083 01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:37,830 don't mention my real name. Perhaps I will be in town for 1084 01:05:37,830 --> 01:05:41,760 the Atlanta meet up keep up the great analysis. We read this 1085 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,980 note last time. He's followed by no jingles No, nothing. That's 1086 01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:50,910 followed by Colin Preston in Oregon City, Oregon who sent a 1087 01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:53,400 check in and ran in a written note. Oh, we 1088 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,630 Adam Curry: finally got a check again. 1089 01:05:55,470 --> 01:05:56,880 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we've only got some checks. So 1090 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,670 Adam Curry: good. Do you think do you think there was some kind 1091 01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:02,040 of done something? Do you think there was some some kind of 1092 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,250 blockage in the system or I find 1093 01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:06,690 John C. Dvorak: it to be peculiar. I don't know what it 1094 01:06:06,690 --> 01:06:07,110 well, you know what 1095 01:06:07,110 --> 01:06:10,650 Adam Curry: comics or Blogger says, says donations are down 1096 01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:14,550 because you blocked him. On Twitter. He did a whole comic 1097 01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:18,210 strip about it. He did he did a cartoon. Yeah. 1098 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:22,080 John C. Dvorak: I got to see it. Yeah. I've been listening to it. 1099 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,430 I'm sure it's very flattering. To me to believe me. I've been 1100 01:06:26,430 --> 01:06:29,670 listening to and he wonders why he gets blocked. I've been 1101 01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:35,760 listening since episode 1089 33 times 33. Do we miss that when 1102 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,950 it happened? 33 times 33 was 1089. I'm so sure we did your 1103 01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:43,620 media deconstruction is fantastic. And elevates my 1104 01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:46,320 critical thinking skills you have since become my primary 1105 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,030 source of news. We love hearing that but 1106 01:06:49,770 --> 01:06:51,840 Adam Curry: it's good for your it's good for your sanity, 1107 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:52,470 that's for sure. 1108 01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:53,820 John C. Dvorak: That's good for the big deal. It's 1109 01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:56,040 Adam Curry: not not much important stuff that you hear 1110 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,300 otherwise, yes. 1111 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,030 John C. Dvorak: Your idea to at least the naming rights of your 1112 01:07:00,030 --> 01:07:05,940 studio is a moneymaker. But the terms need to be defined, would 1113 01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:09,180 it be per show per week per month highest bidder Knights and 1114 01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:13,410 Dames only would multiple sponsors be allowed per show. I 1115 01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:16,710 am a small business owner and interested in this prospect as I 1116 01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:20,250 would rather give my advertising dollars to you guys, then to 1117 01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:21,810 some corporate firm. 1118 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:29,160 Adam Curry: I have so 1.1 If we did naming rights of the studio, 1119 01:07:29,550 --> 01:07:32,070 it would have to be in a monthly basis. Otherwise, it's just 1120 01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:37,380 stupid. It's just too I'm a little concerned that he used 1121 01:07:37,380 --> 01:07:44,730 the a word there. I don't want to be advertising. I'm a little 1122 01:07:44,730 --> 01:07:48,450 concerned about that. I want to I want people to support the 1123 01:07:48,450 --> 01:07:51,510 show because they like the work and not because it's an ad 1124 01:07:54,030 --> 01:07:57,240 John C. Dvorak: well definitely needs more discussion. John. He 1125 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,360 writes, the white stuff that oozes out of Sam and during 1126 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,540 cooking has to do with the temperature at which the salmon 1127 01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:07,410 is cooked. It is harmless unappetizing looking coagulated 1128 01:08:07,410 --> 01:08:11,850 protein and it only happens if you cook the salmon too hot. Oh 1129 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,440 try cooking it at 225 to 250 Fahrenheit instead of the usual 1130 01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:19,920 350 Well doesn't the ooze come out slowly the farm raised 1131 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,570 salmon though it's not healthy. 1132 01:08:22,290 --> 01:08:25,230 Adam Curry: Doesn't I think it was just comes out slower if you 1133 01:08:25,410 --> 01:08:27,360 if you cook it at 225 1134 01:08:27,630 --> 01:08:29,820 John C. Dvorak: I had moments where it doesn't come out. 1135 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,210 Please plug my business practical fusion.com 1136 01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,300 Adam Curry: Thank you I know you just did that for me. I 1137 01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:40,440 appreciate it. Good one. 1138 01:08:41,099 --> 01:08:44,879 John C. Dvorak: Practical fusion.com www practical fuses 1139 01:08:44,909 --> 01:08:48,359 makes sense for an American made stainless steel tank ranging in 1140 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:51,389 size from 200 gallons to 2000 gallons all made here in 1141 01:08:51,389 --> 01:08:55,439 Portland Oregon. If possible, I'll claim the naming rights to 1142 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,849 Adam studio for this episode. Please send an F cancer jingle 1143 01:08:59,849 --> 01:09:03,929 to my smokin hot wife for her everyone out and everyone out 1144 01:09:03,929 --> 01:09:07,409 there who needs it. Okay. Thank you for your courage Keep up the 1145 01:09:07,409 --> 01:09:10,379 great work sincerely Colin. Thank you can see 1146 01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:12,570 Adam Curry: Thank you Colin for reminding us we need to think 1147 01:09:12,570 --> 01:09:15,450 about the naming rights. But there is some apprehension here 1148 01:09:15,450 --> 01:09:25,230 is the requested and always effective. You've got karma 1149 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,170 always gets people focusing their energy on effing the 1150 01:09:28,170 --> 01:09:28,650 cancer. 1151 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,680 John C. Dvorak: Sheila demore Duran oh no mortar RAM but 1152 01:09:34,740 --> 01:09:36,510 Damodaran Damodaran 1153 01:09:36,930 --> 01:09:39,300 Adam Curry: tomorrow, the more the mortar and isn't this is a 1154 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,250 famous famous family No. 1155 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,500 John C. Dvorak: Is it? Yes 1156 01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:49,350 I believe 3456 Associate Executive Producer Forgive me 1157 01:09:49,350 --> 01:09:52,140 pod fathers. It's been many months since my last donation 1158 01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:54,990 but this one will take me over to Dame hood. However, please 1159 01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:57,630 note that I had to pay pal accounts and deleted one of 1160 01:09:57,630 --> 01:10:00,930 them. So my accounting is not great. But It's below in any 1161 01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:04,110 case, just to recap I did 13 My okay she tells him some numbers 1162 01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:07,470 here. I would like to be titled Dame Sheila the lady of Lisbon. 1163 01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:07,770 Oh, 1164 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,680 Adam Curry: boy. All right, Miss bola. 1165 01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:14,760 John C. Dvorak: The synchronicity of Adam coming to 1166 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:20,130 Portugal and a donation from coin bra on the last show met I 1167 01:10:20,130 --> 01:10:22,800 knew it was time to donate again I stopped for a while as the 1168 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,990 synchronicity of Adam coming oh, I'm sorry, my sorry, jump lines. 1169 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,950 I stopped for a while and me and my husband and spent the last 1170 01:10:31,950 --> 01:10:36,450 year building a house in Spain as studious to be exact in the 1171 01:10:36,450 --> 01:10:39,810 far northwest, which is just the opposite of the country where 1172 01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:42,750 you are. We've been living in Hong Kong for many years and 1173 01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:45,150 knew we couldn't manage the project from there. So we moved 1174 01:10:45,150 --> 01:10:50,670 to Lisbon rather than to be a tax resident in Spain after many 1175 01:10:50,670 --> 01:10:53,610 years without paying taxes legally I might add we were 1176 01:10:53,730 --> 01:10:57,300 weren't ready to submit to get mo nation Euro land just yet. So 1177 01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:00,570 he took advantage of the Portuguese NIHR scheme. Non 1178 01:11:00,570 --> 01:11:03,480 habitual resident Yeah, you can consult the book and knowledge 1179 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:05,070 of your interest I 1180 01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:08,040 Adam Curry: actually got this stack send it to me, it's very 1181 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:12,870 similar to the US if you buy a house of at least half a million 1182 01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:16,530 dollars or if you invest in a second home that you'll rent out 1183 01:11:16,530 --> 01:11:21,450 for $350,000 or if you invest a million dollars in the company 1184 01:11:21,450 --> 01:11:24,120 with at least 10 employees then you can come in and you're good 1185 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:24,450 to go. 1186 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,870 John C. Dvorak: Nice Yeah, it is pretty nice. It's very 1187 01:11:27,870 --> 01:11:30,120 controversial in the United States because apparently a lot 1188 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,480 of Arabs and other people are just buying a deal building 1189 01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:36,030 stuff in New York and kind of the word right like they own the 1190 01:11:36,030 --> 01:11:36,780 place the word 1191 01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:39,570 Adam Curry: here is it's the French the French are coming all 1192 01:11:39,570 --> 01:11:42,750 over coming into Portugal and building and buying everywhere 1193 01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:45,990 used to be the Brits now it's the French Interesting. 1194 01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:52,530 John C. Dvorak: Well, the price the value of the of the pound is 1195 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:57,270 not making it easy. Yeah. It's been an interesting ride. My 1196 01:11:57,270 --> 01:12:00,540 Spanish ain't great. My husband's is non existent. So 1197 01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:03,630 Google Translate and some helpful neighbors have really 1198 01:12:03,630 --> 01:12:09,660 big about getting a little stupid. Speak into these please. 1199 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:14,070 I've really been our friend it says our neighbors had been our 1200 01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:17,040 friends but luckily they're very friendly and Portugal's one of 1201 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,790 the great countries of associate the socialize a lot they love 1202 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:24,420 it. Yeah, but luckily the house has turned out okay, there's a 1203 01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:27,660 pic below. Didn't see that. We're planning to use it when we 1204 01:12:27,660 --> 01:12:30,630 can and rent it when we're not Adam. Your note about Portugal 1205 01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:34,530 made me laugh. It really is the back end of Europe perched on 1206 01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:38,610 the edge of the Atlantic and feeling in many ways like Time 1207 01:12:38,610 --> 01:12:42,090 has stopped although the influx of foreign money from various 1208 01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:45,210 visas get parently it's really live a time was stopped years 1209 01:12:45,210 --> 01:12:50,490 ago, which you're not witnessing. Anyway, Lisbon 1210 01:12:50,490 --> 01:12:53,280 property blah, blah, blah. We like get to know the city quite 1211 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,950 well in some parts of it really a time warp but as a soft 1212 01:12:55,950 --> 01:12:58,650 landing back into Europe after many years away. It's been kind. 1213 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:02,100 The people are friendly. The younger ones speak excellent 1214 01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:05,700 English. This is true. As John says the wine is good. cheap and 1215 01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:09,180 plentiful is sunny a lot although gray and rainy today, 1216 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,030 and it's a day drive to our house, which has worked out well 1217 01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:16,080 for us. Although I really miss good Asian food. Yes. Well, you 1218 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,980 know, you can cook it yourself. You can this, 1219 01:13:20,220 --> 01:13:23,070 Adam Curry: you know, this is here. We had some good meals. 1220 01:13:23,490 --> 01:13:27,150 And by the way, everything. Everything is soon to be named 1221 01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:32,160 Sheila said. And let me add wine in a tube. That makes Portugal 1222 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,160 wine YouTube makes Portugal fantastic. 1223 01:13:36,780 --> 01:13:39,450 John C. Dvorak: Portugal listeners out there. I'd love to 1224 01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:41,820 arrange a meet up. I reached there hearing all about it. We 1225 01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:42,630 do have about two or 1226 01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:44,430 Adam Curry: three. No, we have we have we have a couple. 1227 01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:48,210 They've all emailed me. And in fact, I think we've gotten some 1228 01:13:48,210 --> 01:13:51,780 special treatment at the hotel, thanks to some back channeling 1229 01:13:51,780 --> 01:13:56,160 and one of our producers nice. Yes. Very nice. Very, very 1230 01:13:56,610 --> 01:14:00,060 John C. Dvorak: amenable to that. Yeah, they are. I really 1231 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,800 enjoy hearing about all the other meetups and I'm very 1232 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,130 jealous. Should I just go ahead and list one it would be so 1233 01:14:05,130 --> 01:14:07,710 great. Yeah, you can just want to be so great to meet some 1234 01:14:07,710 --> 01:14:11,760 other like minded people here, and no jingles for me. But can I 1235 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,490 have some home rental and business karma so we can 1236 01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:18,090 continue living the dream. Thank you both for keeping on keeping 1237 01:14:18,090 --> 01:14:22,470 on your show is a rare moment of sanity in a world that gets 1238 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:23,880 crazier by the day. 1239 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:25,650 Adam Curry: Thank you very much, Sheila and I look forward to 1240 01:14:25,650 --> 01:14:28,440 seeing you at the roundtable later on. Here's your karma as 1241 01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:36,000 requested. You've got karma. By the way, octopus. The octopus in 1242 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:42,600 Portugal is great. I've never really been an octopus guy. And 1243 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,550 I'll just kind of the look of it. But I've had it twice now 1244 01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:50,580 since we've been here and with this. They have this purple 1245 01:14:50,580 --> 01:14:55,110 sweet potato pool. It's very that they kind of put it make 1246 01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:58,530 into a puree and then they've got the just the Okta it's 1247 01:14:58,530 --> 01:14:59,970 dynamite is the done 1248 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,910 John C. Dvorak: Get the food in Portugal's fantastic. Make sure 1249 01:15:02,910 --> 01:15:07,980 you get some lingua lingua okay. Oh actually used to smuggle back 1250 01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:10,620 some of the they have the sauce some it's gotta tell you about 1251 01:15:10,620 --> 01:15:15,240 this as a couple of sausages that are like to not salami 1252 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,510 because their season totally alien but they're fabulous. And 1253 01:15:18,510 --> 01:15:21,960 the the lot of times you can use some of these sausages and 1254 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,920 Salamis you just cut a little piece off and put it in 1255 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,250 something and then that season's the whole dish is pretty 1256 01:15:30,060 --> 01:15:30,990 amazing. One 1257 01:15:30,990 --> 01:15:34,590 Adam Curry: of our producers said, hey, send me an email. I 1258 01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:37,140 replied and copied you which is why I'm going to tell you about 1259 01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:40,830 it because you never read my email. And he said, I'm working. 1260 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,060 I started working on a best of a no agenda best off so you guys 1261 01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:48,090 could take a show off. And he wants to do it was from Chris. 1262 01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:51,270 No, no, this no Chris is separate. Chris Chris needs 1263 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:53,910 people to send him your favorite bits. That's something different 1264 01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:56,550 Chris is Chris is going to come up with I know what Chris is 1265 01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:59,130 doing something just an outrageous best up Sir Chris 1266 01:15:59,130 --> 01:16:02,370 Wilson, you can find him. It'd be a whole show. But this 1267 01:16:02,370 --> 01:16:06,240 producer wants to do a best of just a food and wine 1268 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,410 conversations. And I like the idea. But I don't know if it's 1269 01:16:10,410 --> 01:16:12,330 if it's a whole Best of Show. 1270 01:16:12,930 --> 01:16:14,460 John C. Dvorak: I don't even get an hour out of it. He 1271 01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:16,140 Adam Curry: says he can get two hours out of it. 1272 01:16:16,980 --> 01:16:18,630 John C. Dvorak: Well, it's possible but well, that'd 1273 01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:19,980 Adam Curry: be interesting for everybody. 1274 01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:23,100 John C. Dvorak: That'd be interesting to some some people 1275 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,650 really I think it's really a minority of the listeners who 1276 01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:26,100 care. 1277 01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:30,090 Adam Curry: Maybe do one hour and then we could we could 1278 01:16:30,540 --> 01:16:33,990 package uses like a filler. But in the meantime, I'm on my 1279 01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:36,120 honeymoon. We're doing a live show. That's what we like doing 1280 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,130 most. So onward with more thanks. 1281 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,770 John C. Dvorak: Anyway, yeah, Portugal is fantastic. The wine 1282 01:16:43,770 --> 01:16:47,700 is great, you get a 10 P wine in a cooler friendly, and it's 1283 01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:52,830 photogenic. That's it. I just talked about just for a second. 1284 01:16:53,010 --> 01:16:57,120 I have always had, I like to take photos and I take a lot of 1285 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,020 them. And there are some places that are photogenic just 1286 01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:03,840 naturally, you can just hold the camera up and shoot you got 1287 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,720 something you have something you could blow up to five feet by 1288 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,590 six feet. And it's just dynamite. In fact, I have one 1289 01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:14,160 I'm gonna frame shortly. And then there's other places that 1290 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,640 you think are photogenic and their ditches impossible to 1291 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,890 squeeze shots out of them. And it's something 1292 01:17:19,890 --> 01:17:22,650 Adam Curry: about the Earth and the light I think the actual 1293 01:17:22,650 --> 01:17:27,930 quality of the of the dirt some sum the sum something, I totally 1294 01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:28,920 agree with what you're saying. 1295 01:17:29,490 --> 01:17:31,890 John C. Dvorak: Well, the one cut displays that is always 1296 01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:37,050 gotten the best of me as New Orleans. I cannot get shots 1297 01:17:37,050 --> 01:17:41,280 there that are worth a shit. And finally, I decided that the best 1298 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,950 my best bet and I actually got some good shots doing this just 1299 01:17:43,950 --> 01:17:47,700 shooting doorways, doorway, doorway, doorway, doorway 1300 01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:51,030 doorway, and you end up with a nice collection of pictures. But 1301 01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:54,300 generally speaking, newer, and that took me years to figure out 1302 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,830 New Orleans is rough. Why? I mean, I'd love to get together 1303 01:17:58,830 --> 01:18:02,550 with a professional photographer who's actually can shoot New 1304 01:18:02,550 --> 01:18:05,550 Orleans and make and make pretty pictures because I've never been 1305 01:18:05,550 --> 01:18:10,170 able to do it. And I'm reminded of a story. And this is the 1306 01:18:10,170 --> 01:18:14,490 story of Marla Maples. I've told her on the show before and it 1307 01:18:14,490 --> 01:18:16,260 has to do with photo Marla Maples 1308 01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:20,040 Adam Curry: was previous girlfriends. What do you mean? 1309 01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:22,710 Oh, you married her? Yeah. Trump's second wife. Yes. 1310 01:18:23,070 --> 01:18:26,580 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So I met Marla Maples, and she is one of 1311 01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:31,830 the most beautiful women you'll ever see. And I realized that 1312 01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:34,590 she was so outrageously beautiful that I've never seen a 1313 01:18:34,590 --> 01:18:37,560 picture of her that made her look as beautiful as she 1314 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,890 actually is in person. So you said Uh huh, I have a quest. 1315 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,800 Well, I didn't have a quiz. She's not gonna let me shoot her 1316 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,010 but, but I was having my photo taken by some photographer in 1317 01:18:47,010 --> 01:18:51,000 New York for some magazine. And I just somehow the conversation 1318 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:56,580 because he did art to art pictures. And like, a side story 1319 01:18:56,580 --> 01:18:59,760 there. But I mentioned Marla Maples. I said you know the 1320 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,780 funny thing about her she's really so much prettier than any 1321 01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:06,600 picture I've ever seen ever and he guy goes nuts. He says you're 1322 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,870 right. He says I was given the assignment to shoot pictures of 1323 01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:14,100 her and I spent days trying to capture this phenomenon and I 1324 01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:17,910 couldn't do it. So there's something there's a mystery to 1325 01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:21,660 photography then they get like a new should 1326 01:19:21,660 --> 01:19:23,550 Adam Curry: have just lowered your F stop. It would have been 1327 01:19:23,550 --> 01:19:24,000 fine. 1328 01:19:26,130 --> 01:19:29,550 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, next on the list. Sorry, I get carried 1329 01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:34,320 away at the store. I love a good story. 23456 from Sir otaku 1330 01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:38,610 Baron of Northeast Texas in the Red River Valley. Wanted to show 1331 01:19:38,610 --> 01:19:41,070 a little support for the best podcast in the universe. Gonna 1332 01:19:41,070 --> 01:19:44,010 get some JCD mac and cheese karma with a little girl yay. 1333 01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:48,660 I've got back to back BBQ competitions this weekend and I 1334 01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:52,800 need all the carbide and get who a competitor cooker. I liked 1335 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,850 that. 73 is K five vz ser el taco. 1336 01:19:58,470 --> 01:20:00,330 Adam Curry: Let me just see we got the mac and cheese Cheese 1337 01:20:00,330 --> 01:20:05,160 mac and cheese mac and cheese I want to make sure I get the 1338 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:05,700 right one 1339 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,880 this the one that he wants let me see for the homeless and I 1340 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:19,200 did this is odd I could I could do this a million times and now 1341 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:25,290 I got to pull up mac and cheese and it's maybe it's JC D Mac 1342 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:35,550 what's going on with this? I feel pretty stupid. Well I 1343 01:20:35,550 --> 01:20:39,630 really do But hold on a second mac and cheese. Is this the one 1344 01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:40,620 the asks 1345 01:20:40,740 --> 01:20:42,900 John C. Dvorak: you slaves can get used the Mac into 1346 01:20:43,140 --> 01:20:43,830 Unknown: the mac and cheese. 1347 01:20:44,610 --> 01:20:48,000 John C. Dvorak: Macaroni and cheese melted together 1348 01:20:48,030 --> 01:20:52,680 Adam Curry: mac and cheese mac and cheese Mac There we go. 1349 01:20:53,010 --> 01:20:55,410 You've got karma I knew ahead of me. 1350 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,040 John C. Dvorak: You did. And last on our list is if I can 1351 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,750 find my arrow on the screen. Hello arrow was worried about 1352 01:21:06,750 --> 01:21:12,150 that. As Michael Rennaker $200.33 says it turns out we had 1353 01:21:12,150 --> 01:21:14,970 three Associate Executive producers and I can't and 1354 01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:18,150 there's no note from him on here and I don't have any email from 1355 01:21:18,150 --> 01:21:19,020 him. Maybe you do 1356 01:21:19,050 --> 01:21:23,430 Adam Curry: I don't I sure don't. Well, he's got the 33 at 1357 01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:26,070 the end there's that's always good news means he's not a first 1358 01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:27,480 time donor more than likely but 1359 01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:29,790 John C. Dvorak: we'll give him some good tuit his karma with a 1360 01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:34,980 goat. You've got karma 1361 01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:41,310 yeah, there's our group of produce negative reducers 1362 01:21:41,310 --> 01:21:44,490 Associate Executive producers for show them 48 1363 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,120 Adam Curry: Yes, thank you. In both levels, associates and the 1364 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,670 executive producers these are credits that you can use 1365 01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:54,120 anywhere credits are accepted. They're valuable because hey, 1366 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,570 let's face it executive producer that says something. They are 1367 01:21:57,570 --> 01:22:00,180 just like any other producer credit in Hollywood and you can 1368 01:22:00,180 --> 01:22:03,180 even show a receipt that you are a real producer unlike a lot of 1369 01:22:03,180 --> 01:22:06,360 the phonies and if anyone ever questioned you or challenges you 1370 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,090 will be happy to back you up and you can do it again you can 1371 01:22:09,090 --> 01:22:14,970 support the show for Sunday I'll be back in Austin Texas and 1372 01:22:14,970 --> 01:22:18,300 please visit our handy website to see how you can support the 1373 01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:24,180 program vora.org/and A without a doubt you've learned a lot today 1374 01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:30,540 you've learned about wine and our formula is this we go out we 1375 01:22:30,540 --> 01:22:47,220 hit people in the mouth winning winning shot us shut us 1376 01:22:47,250 --> 01:22:49,500 John C. Dvorak: leave also want to get a make good to Andy 1377 01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:53,340 Cantrell, who wasn't called out on a $53 at night I'm sorry 1378 01:22:53,340 --> 01:22:58,290 about that. Wasn't called on a donation couple shows ago. So we 1379 01:22:58,290 --> 01:23:03,900 have a person we have everyone's all in for this woman named 1380 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:10,500 combine I think she's running for District Attorney of Queens. 1381 01:23:11,070 --> 01:23:15,690 Oh, she is of the same ilk as a number of district attorneys 1382 01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:18,030 around the country that have build trade 1383 01:23:18,030 --> 01:23:20,670 Adam Curry: Let me guess he's that hate Trump is is that 1384 01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:23,040 John C. Dvorak: they all hate they hate Trump but they're they 1385 01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:28,650 don't believe in small petty crimes. Like Austin. Yeah, poop 1386 01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:32,250 on the street is coming. For sure. But let's listen to this 1387 01:23:32,250 --> 01:23:37,650 woman. This is combine one Democracy Now. 1388 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,050 Unknown: Now another young Queens candidate is trying to 1389 01:23:40,050 --> 01:23:43,860 pull off a historic upset Tiffany come on a 31 year old 1390 01:23:43,860 --> 01:23:47,310 queer Latina public defender is running for District Attorney in 1391 01:23:47,310 --> 01:23:51,270 Queens. She's wanting to end cash bail to stop prosecuting 1392 01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:54,510 low level offenses to decriminalize sex work and to go 1393 01:23:54,510 --> 01:23:58,530 after bad landlords, cops and Immigration Customs Enforcement. 1394 01:23:58,740 --> 01:24:01,740 Her election would mark a major shift in the Queens criminal 1395 01:24:01,740 --> 01:24:05,340 justice system and yet against that an example for the country 1396 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,280 to win. Come on, we'll have to beat out a crowded field of 1397 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,520 seven candidates who are all claiming they'll reform the 1398 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,360 system, including Queens borough president Melinda Katz, who is 1399 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,480 backed by the Queens Democratic Party establishment. This is 1400 01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:21,690 Tiffany cbonds campaign that if you 1401 01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:25,620 have money, if you know how to game the system, you can do 1402 01:24:25,620 --> 01:24:29,040 whatever you want in the city. If you're a person of color, 1403 01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:31,860 you're poor, you're an immigrant. No one's on your 1404 01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:36,570 side. My family is from Puerto Rico, and my parents worked hard 1405 01:24:36,630 --> 01:24:40,320 to make ends meet. But no matter how hard they worked, the system 1406 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,250 cared more about protecting the wealthy. A queer Latina from a 1407 01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:47,520 working class family. People like us are exactly who the 1408 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,610 system is trying to keep down. That's why I became a public 1409 01:24:50,610 --> 01:24:56,010 defender to defend my community. I've defended over 1000 clients 1410 01:24:56,010 --> 01:24:58,800 who couldn't afford to defend themselves who were thrown on 1411 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,380 Rikers because they didn't have Money for bail. They jumped a 1412 01:25:01,380 --> 01:25:04,110 turnstile. They struggle with mental health or substance use 1413 01:25:04,110 --> 01:25:08,700 disorder. I'm running for District Attorney of queens to 1414 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:13,380 bring justice to working people to stop criminalizing poverty to 1415 01:25:13,380 --> 01:25:17,070 reduce recidivism. to decriminalize sex work to end 1416 01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:20,340 cash bail. With the corrupt Queen's political machine 1417 01:25:20,370 --> 01:25:22,710 doesn't want me to win, because they get rich off of 1418 01:25:22,710 --> 01:25:26,550 foreclosures, taken millions from developers and I can't be 1419 01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:27,420 bought and control. 1420 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,890 Since announcing her campaign in January, Tiffany kabongo has 1421 01:25:31,890 --> 01:25:36,150 gone from Long Shot outsider to key contender in a race that's 1422 01:25:36,150 --> 01:25:39,660 garnered national attention. Progressive district attorneys 1423 01:25:39,660 --> 01:25:42,780 Larry crasner of Philadelphia and Rachael Rollins of Boston 1424 01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:46,410 have endorsed Gabon, The New York Times just endorsed her 1425 01:25:46,620 --> 01:25:49,500 writing the success of any prosecutor and of the city 1426 01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:53,310 itself depends on keeping people safe. Miss Gabon is the Democrat 1427 01:25:53,310 --> 01:25:56,430 best poised to become one of a growing number of prosecutors to 1428 01:25:56,430 --> 01:25:59,310 show that can be done without infringing on civil liberties 1429 01:25:59,310 --> 01:26:02,430 criminalizing Black and Hispanic Americans. And mistaking 1430 01:26:02,430 --> 01:26:05,610 punishment for the only form of justice The Times wrote 1431 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,000 Adam Curry: question now. Is she already district attorney or 1432 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,180 shooter? She's a running defender. But she wants to be 1433 01:26:12,180 --> 01:26:13,440 different district attorney. Yes, 1434 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:15,660 John C. Dvorak: she's running for the district attorney 1435 01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:17,640 dropped dead I guess recently. 1436 01:26:18,179 --> 01:26:20,339 Adam Curry: It does. She has a serious contender. 1437 01:26:21,059 --> 01:26:23,939 John C. Dvorak: She's one of the top contenders Yes, she says a 1438 01:26:23,939 --> 01:26:27,869 good she has a shot this. This Melinda Katz woman is better 1439 01:26:27,869 --> 01:26:31,529 known and she's got she's got a better pitch. I think she's 1440 01:26:31,529 --> 01:26:33,989 gonna win. But this possibility does exist, this woman could do 1441 01:26:33,989 --> 01:26:36,749 it. But I want you to play just the last like five seconds of 1442 01:26:36,749 --> 01:26:41,099 that, which is this crazy things that Amy said at the end of that 1443 01:26:41,099 --> 01:26:43,769 the very end chart tell me listen to it carefully and tell 1444 01:26:43,769 --> 01:26:44,639 what it means. 1445 01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:48,420 Unknown: Writing the success of any prosecutor in the city 1446 01:26:48,420 --> 01:26:52,200 itself depends on keeping people safe. Miss Gabon is the Democrat 1447 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,320 best poised to become one of a growing number of prosecutors to 1448 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,200 show that can be done without infringing on civil liberties 1449 01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,320 criminalizing Black and Hispanic Americans. And mistaking 1450 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,530 punishment for the only form of justice The Times wrote, 1451 01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:08,460 John C. Dvorak: thinking, punishment is the only form of 1452 01:27:08,460 --> 01:27:09,090 justice. 1453 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,270 Adam Curry: Well, I can explain it. If you commit a crime, that 1454 01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:20,130 is a low level offense, such as stealing something from a store, 1455 01:27:20,130 --> 01:27:23,970 which you have to do because you know you need to eat. Then 1456 01:27:24,030 --> 01:27:25,590 John C. Dvorak: you get up in your car window in San 1457 01:27:25,590 --> 01:27:26,340 Francisco. Yes, 1458 01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:29,310 Adam Curry: you get a participation trophy. Wow, this 1459 01:27:29,310 --> 01:27:35,070 is this is part of who poor people are. I believe that a lot 1460 01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:38,160 of these nice people with these ideas. I don't know if they 1461 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,580 understand exactly that. The Armageddon is upon us and people 1462 01:27:41,580 --> 01:27:45,210 fall off the edge of the money train the conveyor belt, and 1463 01:27:45,210 --> 01:27:48,900 that's where the ones that, you know, that are left to just poop 1464 01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:52,920 on the street. And so their idea is instead of fixing that, the 1465 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:58,260 idea is well know what they have to steal the eat, or they have 1466 01:27:58,260 --> 01:28:03,480 to do sex work, you know, to eat. It's compassion, it's 1467 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:04,380 compassion. 1468 01:28:05,130 --> 01:28:08,220 John C. Dvorak: Meanwhile, she had a tendency to do something 1469 01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:11,970 that kind of bothered me. When she was in a back and forth she 1470 01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:15,060 was on the show. And so here's the AMI asking her a question. 1471 01:28:15,330 --> 01:28:18,780 Unknown: Ocasio Cortez, you've said she's inspired you to run 1472 01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:21,450 coming from the same borough, and of course, the powerhouse 1473 01:28:21,450 --> 01:28:25,140 that she has become. And you said you thought of yourself 1474 01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:31,560 proudly as a public defender. Crossing over becoming the chief 1475 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:36,450 prosecutor, the district attorney, what made you decide 1476 01:28:36,450 --> 01:28:40,260 you could do that? And what does it mean without the managerial, 1477 01:28:41,250 --> 01:28:45,180 managerial experience that someone like Melinda Katz has? 1478 01:28:45,210 --> 01:28:45,750 Sure. 1479 01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:53,820 Adam Curry: I was wondering where that was going. Good. You 1480 01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:59,640 got me? Sure. Good one. Sure. Well, it's it once we're back 1481 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,550 and now we've we've moved our house. We moved to a new house. 1482 01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:04,650 We're married. We've had the wedding. We've had the 1483 01:29:04,650 --> 01:29:09,900 honeymoon. Now I can get serious about getting involved in what's 1484 01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:13,860 going on in Austin. I've got to make my voice hurts going 1485 01:29:13,860 --> 01:29:16,800 John C. Dvorak: through your uh, now. Uh, let your your the 1486 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:22,110 landed gentry. You have property? Do right. You do 1487 01:29:22,140 --> 01:29:22,710 rights. 1488 01:29:22,740 --> 01:29:25,800 Adam Curry: I have. I have a stake in the game. You have a 1489 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:32,730 stake in the game do i do i got a stake in the game? I got a dog 1490 01:29:32,730 --> 01:29:37,650 in the hunt. And I'm very cute. I'm gonna be a troublemaker. I 1491 01:29:37,860 --> 01:29:38,970 like what's going on? 1492 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,990 John C. Dvorak: Talk to Mimi. Oh, my God, just a local 1493 01:29:42,990 --> 01:29:44,370 troublemaker. She is 1494 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,610 Adam Curry: she i mean really good as she was she is the mold 1495 01:29:48,270 --> 01:29:53,550 for troublemaking shields. Okay, I will and well that's that's a 1496 01:29:53,580 --> 01:29:57,960 good tip. And the guy who wants to build the dome, I think he's 1497 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:04,890 another good person to talk to Yes, good ideas dome, build the 1498 01:30:04,890 --> 01:30:09,120 dome around Austin and give all the cops flame throwers. I love 1499 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:15,900 that idea. All right. Okay, let me see there's, there's a number 1500 01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:18,600 of there's a number of things we can do a number of places we can 1501 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,120 go. But I'd like to talk about these reparations. 1502 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,810 John C. Dvorak: Because I have a roundup clip from PBS. 1503 01:30:24,899 --> 01:30:27,029 Adam Curry: Okay. Is it a background or as explain what's 1504 01:30:27,029 --> 01:30:27,989 going on here? 1505 01:30:28,049 --> 01:30:31,229 John C. Dvorak: I little bit, I don't think it's as good as if 1506 01:30:31,229 --> 01:30:33,659 you have a real good background or it might be bad. I don't 1507 01:30:33,659 --> 01:30:36,779 Adam Curry: really have a background or but I can state 1508 01:30:36,779 --> 01:30:42,269 this that what we saw on C span which happened on the Hill was a 1509 01:30:42,269 --> 01:30:48,059 resurrection of a rather old bill House resolution 40. By was 1510 01:30:48,059 --> 01:30:51,779 a Conyers I think, who initially introduced it years ago in 2013, 1511 01:30:51,779 --> 01:30:56,579 maybe even. And it is a resolution that says we if we 1512 01:30:56,579 --> 01:30:59,969 agree on this, then we all agree that we'll put a panel together 1513 01:31:00,179 --> 01:31:03,029 and a steering committee, and that panel and steering 1514 01:31:03,029 --> 01:31:07,169 committee, they'll then go see how we do reparations, and maybe 1515 01:31:07,169 --> 01:31:11,759 it's x, same thing, maybe just just for people who do not live 1516 01:31:11,759 --> 01:31:15,419 in the United States of slavery, an explanation of what 1517 01:31:15,419 --> 01:31:18,089 reparations are, John, from your historical perspective. 1518 01:31:19,049 --> 01:31:22,499 John C. Dvorak: The idea is that and reparations is not a new 1519 01:31:22,499 --> 01:31:26,189 idea for anything, but the idea is that this people that were in 1520 01:31:26,219 --> 01:31:34,319 slaved against their will need to be compensated in a in 1521 01:31:34,319 --> 01:31:38,849 absentia, meaning that their current black community would 1522 01:31:38,849 --> 01:31:44,399 get the money for the inconvenience of being slaved. 1523 01:31:44,459 --> 01:31:45,209 slaved out, 1524 01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:48,780 Adam Curry: let's be honest, it was an inconvenience, the very 1525 01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:49,140 much of 1526 01:31:49,140 --> 01:31:51,180 John C. Dvorak: an inconvenience and it was it was a it was not 1527 01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:51,780 much fun. 1528 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:54,810 Adam Curry: No, it wasn't. 1529 01:31:55,860 --> 01:31:58,140 John C. Dvorak: Oh, of course, it doesn't account for the white 1530 01:31:58,140 --> 01:32:00,750 slaves, the first group of slaves a lot of them were white 1531 01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:04,470 and there's all kinds of other kinds of issues that take place. 1532 01:32:04,470 --> 01:32:07,650 Well, you have a lot of people that people who showed up in the 1533 01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:09,840 country like FY 1800 1534 01:32:10,110 --> 01:32:14,340 Adam Curry: Right, we're talking about the D O 's database the 1535 01:32:14,580 --> 01:32:18,510 descendant of slaves so there's there's a database that you can 1536 01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:22,020 sign up to I guess, okay, so this is your 1537 01:32:22,770 --> 01:32:25,080 John C. Dvorak: I want to stop here and mention that this is 1538 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:30,120 not the to me the believe movement and some of these other 1539 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:34,290 people Candace Owens as some of these others are shaking up not 1540 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,800 to any real extreme but enough so they're getting the black 1541 01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,130 community is getting a little out of line here and so we have 1542 01:32:41,130 --> 01:32:43,710 to virtue signal and promised them that we're going to do 1543 01:32:43,710 --> 01:32:47,070 something about this reparations is free money if you just stay 1544 01:32:47,070 --> 01:32:50,520 in the Democrat party to let's have the hearings while the 1545 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,400 house is run by the Democrats and we're gonna mention everyone 1546 01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:58,140 look, the black look you black community out there always vote 1547 01:32:58,140 --> 01:32:59,820 for us Democrats are the tube 1548 01:32:59,820 --> 01:33:03,930 Adam Curry: dog to the tube. Or your tube Come on, man. Talk 1549 01:33:03,930 --> 01:33:04,650 them to the tube. 1550 01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:09,750 John C. Dvorak: Gear black community pay attention. We will 1551 01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:13,620 give you money if you stay with the Democrat party. We have done 1552 01:33:13,620 --> 01:33:17,640 nothing for you so far, but pay attention watch US 1553 01:33:17,730 --> 01:33:20,790 Unknown: Congress has held its first hearing on reparations for 1554 01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:24,720 slavery and more than a decade at issue was a proposal for a 1555 01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,170 bipartisan commission to study the question and make 1556 01:33:28,170 --> 01:33:31,200 recommendations. The House Judiciary Committee heard today 1557 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,460 from witnesses ranging from actor Danny Glover, to Senator 1558 01:33:35,460 --> 01:33:39,450 Cory Booker, who's a Democratic presidential candidate. Author 1559 01:33:39,450 --> 01:33:43,770 Tanahashi Coates argued the legacy of slavery lives to this 1560 01:33:43,770 --> 01:33:44,190 day, 1561 01:33:44,370 --> 01:33:49,710 your enslavement reigned for 250 years on the shores. when it 1562 01:33:49,710 --> 01:33:52,020 ended, this country could have extended its hollowed 1563 01:33:52,020 --> 01:33:56,070 principles, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to all 1564 01:33:56,070 --> 01:34:00,540 regardless of color. But America had other principles in mind, 1565 01:34:00,630 --> 01:34:05,700 and the God of bondage was lustful, and begat many is what 1566 01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:09,420 this committee must know. Is that while emancipation dead, 1567 01:34:09,420 --> 01:34:14,040 bolted the door against the bandits of America, Jim Crow way 1568 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,270 to the windows wide open. 1569 01:34:16,050 --> 01:34:20,070 John C. Dvorak: Mm hmm. Yeah. And that, by the way, trying to 1570 01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:22,170 slip the Jim Crow thing into 1571 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,230 Adam Curry: it. Maybe we should explain Jim Crow. This is 1572 01:34:25,230 --> 01:34:28,260 bandied about so easily, all the times of extreme 1573 01:34:28,530 --> 01:34:30,240 John C. Dvorak: definition from the wiki page 1574 01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:34,380 Adam Curry: of Jim Crow. Yeah, okay. We can do that. Let's get 1575 01:34:35,130 --> 01:34:38,040 Jim Crow laws. Oh, here we go. I can do it for him. Jim Crow 1576 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,340 laws. Jim Crow laws were state and local laws that enforced 1577 01:34:41,340 --> 01:34:44,460 racial segregation in the southern United States. All were 1578 01:34:44,460 --> 01:34:47,910 enacted in the late 19th and 20th century by white democratic 1579 01:34:47,940 --> 01:34:51,600 denominated state legislators legislatures, after the 1580 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:57,600 Reconstruction period. The laws were enforced until 1965. Okay, 1581 01:34:57,660 --> 01:34:58,260 in 1582 01:34:58,740 --> 01:35:00,570 John C. Dvorak: reparations for that, too. At least this guy 1583 01:35:00,570 --> 01:35:02,580 does. But let's listen to the other side of the argument which 1584 01:35:02,580 --> 01:35:05,550 very few people want to discuss. Another black guy comes out 1585 01:35:05,550 --> 01:35:08,670 another writer, this first guy who was a writer, this guy's a 1586 01:35:08,670 --> 01:35:10,410 writer with a different take on it. 1587 01:35:10,620 --> 01:35:13,530 Unknown: On the other side writer Coleman Hughes who said 1588 01:35:13,530 --> 01:35:17,460 he is descended from slaves owned by Thomas Jefferson. He 1589 01:35:17,460 --> 01:35:20,730 argued that reparations would create false victims. 1590 01:35:20,970 --> 01:35:24,210 I understand that reparations are about what people are owed, 1591 01:35:24,300 --> 01:35:28,470 regardless of how well they're doing. I understand that. But 1592 01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:32,640 the people who are owed for slavery are no longer here. And 1593 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:37,980 we're not entitled to collect on their debts. repartee 1594 01:35:37,980 --> 01:35:42,480 reparations, by definition, are only given to victims. So the 1595 01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:46,410 moment you give me reparations, you've made me into a victim 1596 01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:47,790 without my consent. 1597 01:35:49,140 --> 01:35:53,700 Adam Curry: Well, unlike or very similar to Amy, I also brought 1598 01:35:53,700 --> 01:35:57,900 two versions of the story from two different sides to the table 1599 01:35:58,530 --> 01:36:02,160 was Judy by the way. Yeah, Judy, Amy, Judy interchangeable. 1600 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:04,140 John C. Dvorak: Judy nowadays Yeah. 1601 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,870 Adam Curry: I brought stars to the table man who was the first 1602 01:36:09,870 --> 01:36:13,440 person that was talking was that Cuba Gooding Jr. Who was the 1603 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:14,520 first guy that had? 1604 01:36:14,730 --> 01:36:16,350 John C. Dvorak: Oh, he's a writer, very famous. 1605 01:36:17,490 --> 01:36:20,340 Adam Curry: She needs to put any of this. I know her. I know. It 1606 01:36:20,340 --> 01:36:24,630 is tahini. Tahini. We've, he's the guy that yeah, he's the guy 1607 01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:29,460 interviewed. AOC the big world war two interview. Yeah, right. 1608 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,000 Okay. You notice they didn't invite Kanye? Kanye would have 1609 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,000 been great at this hearing. But no, no one has that foresight, 1610 01:36:36,030 --> 01:36:38,940 because if you want to talk about the 13th Amendment, Kanye 1611 01:36:38,940 --> 01:36:42,780 is your guy that even met Kim Kardashian West for that, for 1612 01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:46,590 that matter. So just a quickie little setup. She was one of the 1613 01:36:46,620 --> 01:36:49,860 one of the head honchos, Sheila Jackson Lee from the great state 1614 01:36:49,860 --> 01:36:52,230 of Texas. She's a Democrat for Dallas 1615 01:36:52,380 --> 01:36:56,130 reparations. And the idea of this commission should be 1616 01:36:56,130 --> 01:37:02,310 welcomed by all Americans, for we are not asking one American 1617 01:37:02,310 --> 01:37:07,140 to give one payment. What we're saying is it's the only way that 1618 01:37:07,140 --> 01:37:10,380 slavery ended, was a governmental action of the 13th 1619 01:37:10,380 --> 01:37:14,250 Amendment, governmental action and reconstruction failed after 1620 01:37:14,250 --> 01:37:18,360 12 years, because it was imploded by governmental people, 1621 01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:21,900 and after Reconstruction, a reign of terror that had never 1622 01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:25,410 been seen, the hanging fruit, the lynching, the oppression of 1623 01:37:25,410 --> 01:37:29,460 voting, the carrying away of land, and the amazing concept of 1624 01:37:29,460 --> 01:37:34,050 the continuing de jure and de facto impact of slavery. Today, 1625 01:37:34,260 --> 01:37:38,130 1 million African Americans are incarcerated, that is a 1626 01:37:38,130 --> 01:37:42,630 continuing impact. The black unemployment rate is 6.6%. In 1627 01:37:42,630 --> 01:37:45,900 spite of what has been said, currently, more than double the 1628 01:37:45,900 --> 01:37:49,560 national unemployment rate. 31% of black children live in 1629 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,890 poverty compared to 11% of white children. The national average 1630 01:37:52,890 --> 01:37:55,530 is 18% It was suggested the percentage of black children 1631 01:37:55,740 --> 01:37:58,350 living in poverty is more than 150%. 1632 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,180 I love her numbers. Somehow, the percentage of black children 1633 01:38:03,180 --> 01:38:05,400 living in poverty is 150%. 1634 01:38:09,060 --> 01:38:12,570 John C. Dvorak: She probably means 100% More the 1635 01:38:15,150 --> 01:38:18,960 Adam Curry: children living in poverty is more than 150%. Even 1636 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:23,100 in spite of the glorious overcoming of the talent that is 1637 01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,250 part of our community, the scrapping together of making 1638 01:38:26,250 --> 01:38:29,430 sure our children received education, the putting together 1639 01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:32,730 something out of nothing, we still have been impacted. Okay. 1640 01:38:33,089 --> 01:38:36,779 So here's my counter argument and I was incredibly impressed 1641 01:38:36,779 --> 01:38:42,269 by the by this guy. They had to cut it down quite a bit and take 1642 01:38:42,269 --> 01:38:47,819 out a lot of his own personal history. But Burgess Owens. Are 1643 01:38:47,819 --> 01:38:49,499 you familiar with Burgess Owens? 1644 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,050 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I heard his testimony. He's a football 1645 01:38:52,050 --> 01:38:52,500 player. 1646 01:38:52,530 --> 01:38:56,190 Adam Curry: Yes. He was. He was a All Star wasn't he wasn't. 1647 01:38:57,630 --> 01:39:04,470 Maybe it could be me see? Tallahassee, Miami. All all 1648 01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:13,050 American defensive back. Denver. Jets 1973. Anyway, what did you 1649 01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:14,070 think of his testimony? 1650 01:39:15,540 --> 01:39:20,520 John C. Dvorak: I thought it was good. It was a little long. It 1651 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:25,860 was too long. And it was kind of like, you know, logically 1652 01:39:26,460 --> 01:39:27,420 challenged. Now. 1653 01:39:27,420 --> 01:39:29,280 Adam Curry: See, I disagree. I thought it was incredibly 1654 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:34,350 logical. Well, I clipped it down for us, Burgess Owens. And I 1655 01:39:34,350 --> 01:39:37,380 thought, I thought he hit the nail on the head. Actually, 1656 01:39:37,410 --> 01:39:39,690 Unknown: we are at this point. This is not about black and 1657 01:39:39,690 --> 01:39:45,030 white. Richard poor, blue collar, white collar. We're 1658 01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:47,490 fighting for the heart and soul of our nation. We have a very, 1659 01:39:47,490 --> 01:39:50,190 very special country the story of the Judeo Christian values 1660 01:39:50,190 --> 01:39:52,080 that allowed every single generation become better than 1661 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,010 the last and that has not ended. It has not stopped until now. 1662 01:39:56,970 --> 01:39:59,310 We're telling our kids a little bit something different that 1663 01:39:59,310 --> 01:40:01,860 they don't have their opportunities that we had people 1664 01:40:01,860 --> 01:40:05,100 change. I used to be a Democrat, until I did my history and find 1665 01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:10,470 out the misery that that party brought my race. We were 1666 01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:14,730 fighting for the heart and soul, our nation against socialism, 1667 01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:18,360 Marxism and evil it has brought to us in the stealing of our 1668 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:22,080 history. Karl Marx said it best, the Aarthi the father of 1669 01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:26,610 socialism, and atheists, anti Semite, in a blatant racist 1670 01:40:26,850 --> 01:40:29,640 view. We teach his philosophy in our school systems today. He 1671 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:33,900 said it. The first battleground is rewriting of our history. You 1672 01:40:33,900 --> 01:40:37,500 steal our history, you steal our pride now pass a pre staged for 1673 01:40:37,500 --> 01:40:40,200 our president, and our vision for our future and every single 1674 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:45,390 urban city in our country is now experiencing that loss for 1675 01:40:45,390 --> 01:40:47,610 history of all black country about black America has been 1676 01:40:47,610 --> 01:40:51,960 stolen from us for decades, almost over a century. Booker T. 1677 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:58,800 Washington 1880 82 began to ski University. By 1905. It was 1678 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,740 producing more self made black millionaires than Harvard, Yale 1679 01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:05,640 and Princeton combined. The 40s 50s and 60s, it was a Black 1680 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,160 Country, black community, the little country in the growth of 1681 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,460 the middle class, little country turns man committed to marriage 1682 01:41:11,490 --> 01:41:15,360 was 70%. Now it's 30%. Little Country terms of the full 1683 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,750 committed to business ownership 40%. Now it's 3.8% Men 1684 01:41:18,750 --> 01:41:21,000 matriculate in college we now have more a higher percentage of 1685 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,390 men and it costs right in college. I do not believe 1686 01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:27,480 reparation. Because what reparation does it points to a 1687 01:41:27,480 --> 01:41:31,350 certain race a certain color and it points them as evil and 1688 01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:35,940 points the other race my race is one that has not only becomes 1689 01:41:35,940 --> 01:41:40,080 racist, but there but also beggars. I do believe in 1690 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:44,160 restitution. Let's pull it to the party. That was that was 1691 01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:48,390 part of slavery. Take a que Jim Crow that has killed over 40% of 1692 01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:52,920 our black babies. 20 million of them. State of California 70 75% 1693 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,920 of our black boys cannot pass down and reading writing tests a 1694 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,920 democratic state. So yes, let's play Rest, rest, rest 1695 01:41:58,950 --> 01:42:01,710 restitution. How about a Democratic Party pay for all the 1696 01:42:01,710 --> 01:42:05,580 misery brought to my race and those after after we learn our 1697 01:42:05,580 --> 01:42:09,120 history decide to stay there they should pay also they're 1698 01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,750 complicit in every white American, Republican or Democrat 1699 01:42:12,810 --> 01:42:15,540 who feels guilty because of your white skin. You should need to 1700 01:42:15,540 --> 01:42:18,810 pony up also, that when we get past this reparation, recognize 1701 01:42:18,810 --> 01:42:21,750 that this country has given us greatness. Look at this panel. 1702 01:42:22,050 --> 01:42:25,950 Didn't matter how we think the fact is that matter of color, we 1703 01:42:25,950 --> 01:42:28,740 have become successful this country like no other because of 1704 01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:32,850 this great opportunity to live the American dream listeners 1705 01:42:32,850 --> 01:42:34,620 still hear from our kids, but tell them they can't do 1706 01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:39,030 Adam Curry: it. Here that's what they should have. That's that's 1707 01:42:39,030 --> 01:42:41,190 the message that they should have put on peanuts. 1708 01:42:41,190 --> 01:42:42,660 John C. Dvorak: What do you think about that message reminds 1709 01:42:42,660 --> 01:42:45,510 me of a clip I didn't get but but there was this funny 1710 01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:49,920 phenomenon in the sports world were Dwayne Wade, who is a 1711 01:42:50,490 --> 01:42:56,490 famous basketball player from Miami. He was an he's a maniac 1712 01:42:56,490 --> 01:43:02,040 father, who had Family Guy was being condemned for being for 1713 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,850 being like golf about his kids. You know, it was like, there is 1714 01:43:05,850 --> 01:43:11,280 this movement as anti family bias that is prevalent, and it's 1715 01:43:11,310 --> 01:43:14,610 mostly coming from the Justice Democrats and others. They 1716 01:43:14,610 --> 01:43:17,670 really like to bust up and they don't want to have you know, 1717 01:43:17,730 --> 01:43:21,330 like the guy said, there was 70% of the blacks and some area 1718 01:43:21,330 --> 01:43:24,930 where, you know, families now it's only 30 It's just single 1719 01:43:24,930 --> 01:43:26,580 moms because single moms can do 1720 01:43:26,580 --> 01:43:29,580 Adam Curry: it. California, he was talking about California 1721 01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:30,510 specifically. 1722 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,840 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, California and the Democratic Party. He 1723 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,680 said this he said state is totally run by the Democrats. 1724 01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:37,830 She 1725 01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:39,810 Adam Curry: says hey, let's have the Democrat date. I liked what 1726 01:43:39,810 --> 01:43:42,450 he said Democrat party you should pay for it. Hey, if 1727 01:43:42,450 --> 01:43:45,810 you're white you feel guilty pony up fine. Get get it off 1728 01:43:45,810 --> 01:43:49,320 your chest. But he's I don't want I don't want my kids to be 1729 01:43:49,410 --> 01:43:53,250 to be explained to them. Oh, you're a loser. You're a beggar 1730 01:43:53,250 --> 01:43:57,720 you you got you need a hand up. And it seems like the minute 1731 01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,050 that the the Civil Rights Act came in, he's he's his date. His 1732 01:44:01,050 --> 01:44:04,950 timeline is up until 6065 It all went downhill from there. 1733 01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:11,220 John C. Dvorak: Well, again, the sociology of all this is quite 1734 01:44:11,220 --> 01:44:15,810 interesting. Yeah, I kind of felt the same way as myself 1735 01:44:15,810 --> 01:44:18,900 being a lifelong Democrat when I was you know, raised as a 1736 01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:26,040 Democrat working class family upper middle class and we I 1737 01:44:26,190 --> 01:44:28,530 decided the Democrats are just out to kill me 1738 01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:33,180 Adam Curry: you specifically sir. 1739 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:39,630 John C. Dvorak: Yes, you are out to get me Wow, this thing is but 1740 01:44:39,630 --> 01:44:42,450 again, no, it's just mostly virtue signaling they're trying 1741 01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:46,470 to go Sure. people to vote Democrat in this next upcoming 1742 01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:51,420 election, which doesn't look too promising. And I I watched the I 1743 01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:53,340 couldn't watch the whole thing because it's pretty much have 1744 01:44:53,340 --> 01:44:57,900 you seen two or three of these speeches by Trump? Even one 1745 01:44:58,050 --> 01:45:01,260 you've seen them all because you It's just fun to watch how well 1746 01:45:01,260 --> 01:45:02,160 he handles the oh, 1747 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,880 Adam Curry: this is his his announcement of his reelection 1748 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,560 campaign in Florida. 1749 01:45:07,620 --> 01:45:12,540 John C. Dvorak: Yes. Okay. It's another announcement. He, it was 1750 01:45:12,750 --> 01:45:16,320 a rousing crowd. That place was absolutely packed. And 1751 01:45:16,349 --> 01:45:19,589 Adam Curry: by the way, not viewable here in the United 1752 01:45:19,589 --> 01:45:23,009 States of Europe. Not I mean, I could have gotten that on a 1753 01:45:23,009 --> 01:45:25,709 YouTube feed, I'm sure but it would have been two in the 1754 01:45:25,709 --> 01:45:29,879 morning. Now. Nothing they've shown. All I hear is it was 1755 01:45:29,879 --> 01:45:34,379 nothing new, same stuff. Does that accurate? 1756 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,760 John C. Dvorak: No, it's always got something new. He really he 1757 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,360 does things is the speeches are very this one was it was a 1758 01:45:42,510 --> 01:45:45,660 prompted speech though. It wasn't like as normal. He didn't 1759 01:45:45,660 --> 01:45:50,700 go off script a half or two hours. So he had talking notes 1760 01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:53,550 and he was in the state on on point because it was supposed to 1761 01:45:53,550 --> 01:45:57,240 be it had a purpose as opposed to just a rally that normally 1762 01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,000 just rallies get people all jacked up. I always noticed that 1763 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:04,050 in the Washington speeches, he always has at least one or two 1764 01:46:04,050 --> 01:46:09,240 and maybe sometimes three big tooth comely blondes in the 1765 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,820 back. It's wearing the right 1766 01:46:11,849 --> 01:46:14,099 Adam Curry: alright. All right, let's just stop for a second. 1767 01:46:15,899 --> 01:46:22,199 Trump is a television professional. Yeah. And after 1768 01:46:22,199 --> 01:46:25,169 we're done with this remind me because I have a clip of him 1769 01:46:25,169 --> 01:46:26,879 being a television professional. 1770 01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:31,770 John C. Dvorak: can put a reminder anyway, so Trisha, he 1771 01:46:31,770 --> 01:46:35,640 always has ended and is always there always eye catching? 1772 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,580 Adam Curry: Well, hello, yes, yes. 1773 01:46:40,050 --> 01:46:42,210 John C. Dvorak: Looking at these girls, and they always have 1774 01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:46,170 flaxen hair very pretty the word Trump that they have 1775 01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:48,810 Adam Curry: the women for trauma and women for Trump t shirt. 1776 01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:49,740 Wear it 1777 01:46:49,740 --> 01:46:52,710 John C. Dvorak: sometimes. The ended she had this one girl that 1778 01:46:52,710 --> 01:46:56,580 was very caught my eye and this one was she had a Trump elephant 1779 01:46:56,580 --> 01:46:59,700 t shirt, which I've never seen before. Oh, yeah, it was an 1780 01:46:59,700 --> 01:47:02,610 elephant. There's an elephant in the with the word Trump that was 1781 01:47:02,610 --> 01:47:06,150 like Trump making an elephant was very interesting Trump 1782 01:47:06,150 --> 01:47:10,710 trunk. And so she was there and they always had but I've seen 1783 01:47:10,710 --> 01:47:14,520 these girls before. They always have the hat and the hat goes on 1784 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,610 and off. It's a red hat. It goes on and off. And they always have 1785 01:47:17,610 --> 01:47:21,750 long blonde hair and it's not it's not that cheesy looking 1786 01:47:21,750 --> 01:47:24,810 southern hairstyle that is like you know looks down by a new 1787 01:47:24,810 --> 01:47:29,700 tower Dallas is good looking. Yeah, and but always the monster 1788 01:47:29,700 --> 01:47:31,980 speed. I don't even know if these women are attractive. But 1789 01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:35,040 they they have the right proportions of the face and a 1790 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,940 monster smile. huge monster smile and they agree with 1791 01:47:38,940 --> 01:47:42,810 everything he says. And there's always two or three of them back 1792 01:47:42,810 --> 01:47:46,320 there. One was always catches your eye. And I'm always 1793 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,960 fascinated by this because because if you look at a Bernie 1794 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:53,160 crowd, it's a bunch of beat up old bastards that looks like 1795 01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,860 they're, you know, they haven't taken a shower for a month and 1796 01:47:55,860 --> 01:47:59,220 battleaxe is just not a good look. 1797 01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:00,900 Adam Curry: There's an Bernie of mainly dudes. 1798 01:48:01,830 --> 01:48:04,290 John C. Dvorak: It was a lot of dudes but a lot of women but 1799 01:48:04,290 --> 01:48:05,580 they're all gray haired and 1800 01:48:05,580 --> 01:48:08,250 Adam Curry: they're all no one's no one's doing any styling for 1801 01:48:08,250 --> 01:48:09,210 the for the event. 1802 01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:12,120 John C. Dvorak: No, they have definitely not any style stupid. 1803 01:48:12,690 --> 01:48:16,650 Hillary dressing bill and before her dad used to load up them and 1804 01:48:16,650 --> 01:48:19,800 I think bush to a lesser extent would load up the background was 1805 01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:21,150 military. Right? 1806 01:48:21,300 --> 01:48:26,940 Adam Curry: Right, right, right. Yeah, Bernie's got dudes named 1807 01:48:26,940 --> 01:48:27,810 Ben everywhere. 1808 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,690 John C. Dvorak: What I noticed that what I noticed is the 1809 01:48:30,690 --> 01:48:34,980 Trump's you know, Trump likes to harp on these nicknames. And 1810 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,100 he's this is the first compound nickname I didn't think much 1811 01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:40,830 about it. When I first heard it. I thought it was just casually 1812 01:48:40,830 --> 01:48:44,610 said it. But now I heard it again at this speech, and I 1813 01:48:44,610 --> 01:48:48,750 realized that this is gonna be Joe Biden's nickname. And it's a 1814 01:48:48,750 --> 01:48:51,360 comp. It's not the same as it used to be. We just had some 1815 01:48:51,390 --> 01:48:55,890 crooked Hillary you know, locker. This is a compound bit 1816 01:48:55,890 --> 01:48:58,680 that is a little bit that has to be noticed and this would be a 1817 01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,390 Trump speech, the sleepy guy. 1818 01:49:00,450 --> 01:49:03,630 Unknown: Remember the Safin from the previous administration? 1819 01:49:03,900 --> 01:49:08,790 You'd need a magic wand to bring back manufacturing. Well, we'll 1820 01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:14,220 tell sleepy Joe that we found the magic wand. The Sleepy guy. 1821 01:49:18,510 --> 01:49:22,350 John C. Dvorak: So it's sleepy Joe, the sleepy guy, the guy. 1822 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,800 And he said this a couple of times. I've heard it before I 1823 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,050 didn't think was part of the bit. I thought it was just 1824 01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:31,140 casually just dropped into sleepy guy. But when I heard it 1825 01:49:31,140 --> 01:49:35,430 this time, I said this is good. This is the nickname sleepy Joe 1826 01:49:35,490 --> 01:49:42,870 Adam Curry: just a sleepy guy. Well, I let's do a test. Since 1827 01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:50,640 we were using Pocahontas years before Trump even decided to run 1828 01:49:51,900 --> 01:49:56,580 this, this this time this time. We were using Pocahontas and it 1829 01:49:56,580 --> 01:49:59,010 was funny and it was just ours. And once Trump did it, then we 1830 01:49:59,010 --> 01:50:04,920 had to stop it. Right. I don't have a better nickname. But I am 1831 01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:11,340 a little surprised, but still anticipatory that Trump at a 1832 01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:15,420 certain point will just have to say, sleepy Joe. No wonder they 1833 01:50:15,420 --> 01:50:19,380 took the top of his head off twice. And he should be harping 1834 01:50:19,410 --> 01:50:20,700 on the brain surgery. 1835 01:50:22,230 --> 01:50:25,950 John C. Dvorak: I think he's holding it in abeyance because I 1836 01:50:25,950 --> 01:50:26,700 think I think he 1837 01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:29,280 Adam Curry: was waiting to drop a big one. Yeah, I'm sure he 1838 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:30,690 does. You'll say 1839 01:50:30,690 --> 01:50:33,780 John C. Dvorak: sleepy Joe or sleepy Joe, the sleepy guy for a 1840 01:50:33,780 --> 01:50:36,690 while, but it's not that's not going to affect the Democrats. 1841 01:50:36,690 --> 01:50:38,760 If he starts talking to him about the brain surgery, it 1842 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,970 would change the public perception. So he's going to 1843 01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:45,900 hold that back until the until the debates are over. And at 1844 01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:48,150 least it'll be at the very end when he pulls that 1845 01:50:48,150 --> 01:50:50,160 Adam Curry: that'll be your right it'll probably be one of 1846 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:54,990 the it'll probably be one of these like, sleepy Joe. Sleeping 1847 01:50:54,990 --> 01:50:58,950 you know, Rama Rama. Hey, sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe. 1848 01:50:58,980 --> 01:51:03,270 Hey, sleepy Joe. At a certain point. Sleepy Joe say something 1849 01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:06,330 insulting and Trump ago, at least I didn't have my head 1850 01:51:06,330 --> 01:51:09,510 opened up twice. Something like that. That's probably 1851 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:11,880 John C. Dvorak: what we'll do. You know why he's sleepy. 1852 01:51:13,110 --> 01:51:14,040 Adam Curry: We got to come up with something. 1853 01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,680 John C. Dvorak: It'd be something that happens now. I'm 1854 01:51:17,490 --> 01:51:19,860 waiting for the debates, because that's going to change. I think 1855 01:51:19,860 --> 01:51:23,250 that first debate is going to change the this, I think has 1856 01:51:23,250 --> 01:51:25,800 already been changed. I don't think 1857 01:51:26,250 --> 01:51:28,500 Adam Curry: the first debate is this is coming up soon, you 1858 01:51:28,500 --> 01:51:30,750 know, the end of the month, the 25th. This is the first 1859 01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:32,730 democratic primary debates. 1860 01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:36,330 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is gonna be the two parter days of 1861 01:51:36,330 --> 01:51:43,380 debates, I believe. I do believe that. Got Horowitz saying that a 1862 01:51:43,380 --> 01:51:43,830 lot. 1863 01:51:45,390 --> 01:51:46,410 Adam Curry: Did you call them on? 1864 01:51:46,410 --> 01:51:49,260 John C. Dvorak: I think that there that this thing is over in 1865 01:51:49,260 --> 01:51:52,620 me if Hillary gets into is still not going to change a lot. But 1866 01:51:52,620 --> 01:51:54,060 it's, it's gonna I see. 1867 01:51:54,090 --> 01:51:56,370 Adam Curry: I saw you walk. I saw you walking back to Hillary 1868 01:51:56,370 --> 01:52:00,150 a little bit on the tweeters. You were saying, well, if Joe is 1869 01:52:00,150 --> 01:52:03,270 the front runner, then she's not going to step in. But if Joe 1870 01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:05,220 kind of drops back then you think she's 1871 01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:07,560 John C. Dvorak: doing that because it's a courtesy, even 1872 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:11,640 though it's hard to imagine a courtesy. Well, Biden stepped 1873 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:17,280 back when she ran as true and said, I'll let you go. Now if he 1874 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:22,530 takes too, if he takes the front of the pack and he kicks ass in 1875 01:52:22,530 --> 01:52:25,950 the debates, the debates is everything for Hillary. If he 1876 01:52:25,950 --> 01:52:29,250 kicks ass in the debates and wins, or at least he's up there 1877 01:52:29,250 --> 01:52:36,030 with the big with the top three, then I think she might relent. 1878 01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:39,510 But I staged there's no evidence that she's going to win. But I'm 1879 01:52:39,540 --> 01:52:42,540 just saying that it's a little insurance policy on my part. I 1880 01:52:42,540 --> 01:52:45,600 can't predict the vice president though. And I'm going to do it 1881 01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:51,240 now. Okay. The Vice President is going to be Kamla Harris. 1882 01:52:51,450 --> 01:52:55,800 Adam Curry: Do you think she'll accept that? Yeah. Good ticket. 1883 01:52:57,300 --> 01:52:57,960 It's a good show. You 1884 01:52:57,960 --> 01:52:59,700 John C. Dvorak: said she did She's perfect for the vice 1885 01:52:59,700 --> 01:53:04,170 presidency. She says Say nothing do nothing. A ladder climber. 1886 01:53:04,380 --> 01:53:07,560 She says this is at the top and you think she would accept it? 1887 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,950 Hell yeah. Of Joe Biden's gonna be present. This guy could drop 1888 01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:11,190 dead 1889 01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:13,830 Adam Curry: any minute heels. Hi, Harris to the rescue. 1890 01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:17,190 John C. Dvorak: And so Harris could become our president, 1891 01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:20,790 which is something to consider. I don't think either one of them 1892 01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:24,510 gonna be Trump. But it's possible that if she did if they 1893 01:53:24,510 --> 01:53:29,100 did, what's a good it's a good ticket. Vice president no matter 1894 01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:32,850 who it isn't a skinny Sanders is getting it now beginning even 1895 01:53:32,850 --> 01:53:34,890 though on my contenders list, they still have Sanders at the 1896 01:53:34,890 --> 01:53:38,190 top because if a true popular vote was taken, and there wasn't 1897 01:53:38,190 --> 01:53:43,620 corruption in the media, who were promoting Biden, I believe 1898 01:53:43,620 --> 01:53:48,210 Sanders could still win the whole thing. And but they're not 1899 01:53:48,210 --> 01:53:50,850 going to let him so but it's still Sanders is the top guy 1900 01:53:50,850 --> 01:53:54,360 Hillary still number two in Biden's number three. And Biden 1901 01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:57,900 when he picks his they're promoting him. So if Biden gets 1902 01:53:57,900 --> 01:54:01,920 in which I now believe might be the case, he will pick Kamala 1903 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,050 Harris because she is the best balance. She's black. She's a 1904 01:54:04,050 --> 01:54:08,430 woman. She checks two different boxes. She's actually mixed race 1905 01:54:08,430 --> 01:54:12,570 which checks a third box. And she's perfect. She's not to 1906 01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:15,210 troublemaker. She's not going to upstage Biden. 1907 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,160 Adam Curry: Her answer to everything is that we need to 1908 01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,250 have an open and honest conversation about that. 1909 01:54:20,340 --> 01:54:23,550 John C. Dvorak: Yes, she that's why she's the perfect vice 1910 01:54:23,550 --> 01:54:26,880 president candidate. Yeah, it won't definitely would not be 1911 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:31,140 here. Warren Warren's out. She's done. And it's not going to be 1912 01:54:31,140 --> 01:54:35,940 anybody else booted yet. Yeah, I don't think so. Now, and so it 1913 01:54:36,420 --> 01:54:40,140 looks like the ticket to where it's shaping unless Biden 1914 01:54:40,170 --> 01:54:45,600 stumbles. And then if Hillary got in and she she ran again, we 1915 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,180 Adam Curry: say if Biden Biden has made a couple of stumbles, 1916 01:54:48,180 --> 01:54:50,700 and he seems a bit bulletproof in that regard, 1917 01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,280 John C. Dvorak: that's because the media is covering for him. 1918 01:54:54,540 --> 01:54:57,330 The media really wants Biden because the media has convinced 1919 01:54:57,330 --> 01:55:01,140 itself that Biden can beat Trump because Have these polls that 1920 01:55:01,140 --> 01:55:04,080 have come out showing Biden kicking ass and so they're 1921 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:08,040 ignoring all his real you know creepiness creepy young, creepy 1922 01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:11,370 uncle Joe stuff. They're pushing that to the side and all his 1923 01:55:11,370 --> 01:55:15,960 other screwy things like this son who's got, you know, uranium 1924 01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,470 mines and involved in oil shale and 1925 01:55:20,250 --> 01:55:23,370 Adam Curry: dusty does have some baggage man, he's got some bad 1926 01:55:23,370 --> 01:55:23,670 eggs, 1927 01:55:23,670 --> 01:55:25,800 John C. Dvorak: but they can keep them under wraps. And they 1928 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:28,050 will because they're not going to they're not going after him. 1929 01:55:28,050 --> 01:55:31,800 They they gave us a couple of salvos early, and he seemed to 1930 01:55:31,830 --> 01:55:34,620 withstand it. And so he's just now he's on his way. All right. 1931 01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:36,840 Can't be Trump. 1932 01:55:40,230 --> 01:55:43,020 Adam Curry: I like that. I think it's I think it's a good ticket 1933 01:55:43,020 --> 01:55:43,170 you're 1934 01:55:43,230 --> 01:55:45,510 John C. Dvorak: gonna get in, I want to do today get into as 1935 01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:46,470 early as I could. 1936 01:55:46,500 --> 01:55:48,270 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a good ticket. I think that's the way 1937 01:55:48,270 --> 01:55:52,890 to go for them. But I just there's so many that you know, I 1938 01:55:52,890 --> 01:55:55,800 have to agree with your assertion he wants Joe to be the 1939 01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:01,170 guy so because that will be he sees that as easy. Especially 1940 01:56:01,170 --> 01:56:02,250 with the head thing. 1941 01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,300 John C. Dvorak: His head, but things are probably opened up 1942 01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:09,840 twice. That's rather problematic. I didn't know his 1943 01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,280 twice, but oh, man, 1944 01:56:11,490 --> 01:56:13,650 Adam Curry: there was, you know, there was a new story that just 1945 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,440 I thought it was his recycle to what's going on all of a sudden, 1946 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:19,590 we had Khashoggi in the news again, over here on all the 1947 01:56:19,590 --> 01:56:20,280 channels. 1948 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,250 John C. Dvorak: And to for some unknown reason. Well, I 1949 01:56:23,250 --> 01:56:26,640 Adam Curry: figured it out. So this is being propagated by on 1950 01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:32,970 Yes. Calamar. And, and yes, Calamar is a special rapporteur 1951 01:56:34,410 --> 01:56:37,980 of the United Nations High Commission for Human Rights. Oh, 1952 01:56:37,980 --> 01:56:42,390 H Chr. Now, the last time there was not this woman, it was a 1953 01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:45,780 different woman, the last time one of these women because it's 1954 01:56:45,780 --> 01:56:49,020 so far, it's only two we've looked at comes from the United 1955 01:56:49,020 --> 01:56:52,290 Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights. It was about Black 1956 01:56:52,290 --> 01:56:55,440 Pete In the Netherlands, and she was trying to get reparations 1957 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:59,610 for the islands that the Netherlands colonize. And that's 1958 01:56:59,610 --> 01:57:02,370 really how the whole black peat thing started. And now it's just 1959 01:57:02,370 --> 01:57:05,760 a mess every year and children are crying as they it's a big 1960 01:57:06,150 --> 01:57:10,560 racial thing. It's just and it's all trouble started by Rob 1961 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,940 Porter, Special Rapporteur, which means it's a side gig. 1962 01:57:14,940 --> 01:57:19,230 It's a side hustle. Because what she really is is a French human 1963 01:57:19,230 --> 01:57:24,660 rights expert. Wikipedia actually lists her occupation as 1964 01:57:24,660 --> 01:57:29,760 human rights activist. She is also the director of Columbia 1965 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:34,380 University's Global freedom of expression project. Are you 1966 01:57:34,380 --> 01:57:35,100 following me? 1967 01:57:37,050 --> 01:57:39,480 John C. Dvorak: And I am it's getting worse by the minute this 1968 01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:43,380 Adam Curry: a 9095 she received a PhD in Political Science from 1969 01:57:43,380 --> 01:57:47,910 the New School for Social Research in New York. So yeah, 1970 01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:51,480 you see you, I see, you know what we're gonna operation. So 1971 01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:55,080 she shows up and I'm like, What are they doing about? What does 1972 01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:58,800 this what does she have to do with Khashoggi official 1973 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:03,900 pronunciation? Jamal Khashoggi, there you go. And it becomes 1974 01:58:03,930 --> 01:58:05,850 obvious at the end of this report 1975 01:58:05,879 --> 01:58:08,969 Unknown: Saudi Arabia had knowledge of and is responsible 1976 01:58:08,969 --> 01:58:12,449 for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to a 1977 01:58:12,449 --> 01:58:15,509 UN Special Investigation into the killing. The much 1978 01:58:15,509 --> 01:58:18,689 anticipated report says Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed 1979 01:58:18,689 --> 01:58:21,749 bin Salman and other senior Saudi officials should be 1980 01:58:21,749 --> 01:58:24,719 investigated over the brutal death of the journalist in 1981 01:58:24,719 --> 01:58:28,499 October last year, he was brutally killed and dismembered 1982 01:58:28,499 --> 01:58:30,479 in the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul, 1983 01:58:30,599 --> 01:58:32,909 John C. Dvorak: can you stop Stop, stop stop. Of course, you 1984 01:58:32,909 --> 01:58:36,329 have to start that clip over why because there's a contradiction 1985 01:58:36,329 --> 01:58:39,149 right in the clip and I'm kind of have to listen to it from 1986 01:58:39,389 --> 01:58:40,679 from the beginning. Sorry Saudi 1987 01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:44,130 Unknown: Arabia had knowledge of and is responsible for the 1988 01:58:44,130 --> 01:58:47,220 murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to a UN 1989 01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:50,610 Special Investigation into the killing. The much anticipated 1990 01:58:50,610 --> 01:58:54,120 report says Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and 1991 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:57,480 other senior Saudi officials should be investigated over the 1992 01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:01,290 brutal death of the journalist in October last year, he was 1993 01:59:01,290 --> 01:59:04,260 brutally killed and dismembered in the Saudi Embassy in 1994 01:59:04,260 --> 01:59:04,920 Istanbul. 1995 01:59:05,820 --> 01:59:07,320 Adam Curry: Did you have anything you found? Or? 1996 01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:11,070 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm gonna bring this up. They start off by 1997 01:59:11,070 --> 01:59:14,310 saying he had knowledge of et cetera, et cetera, is according 1998 01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:18,930 to and thus must be investigated. Why did they not 1999 01:59:18,930 --> 01:59:21,330 do an investigation to come up with this assertion, 2000 01:59:21,570 --> 01:59:24,870 Adam Curry: while the Special Rapporteur the special Robert 2001 01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:25,470 tourister. 2002 01:59:26,850 --> 01:59:28,770 John C. Dvorak: If they already did the investigation, which is 2003 01:59:28,770 --> 01:59:30,870 what if you'd listened to beginning of that clip sounds 2004 01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:33,600 like he was investigated, and this is their conclusions, but 2005 01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:37,080 now he must be investigated. How is what were they talking about? 2006 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:40,080 Adam Curry: Well, obviously it's cover for something else. The 2007 01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:43,980 first important courses and yes, here she is, here's here she is 2008 01:59:43,980 --> 01:59:46,350 the superstar doesn't really matter what she says but you 2009 01:59:46,350 --> 01:59:47,880 just get the idea sample. 2010 01:59:48,330 --> 01:59:51,900 Unknown: The first important conclusion of my report is that 2011 01:59:51,900 --> 01:59:56,520 the responsibility of the state of Saudi Arabia is implicated 2012 01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:01,800 into that killing. This was not a Rago parish. As they have an 2013 02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:06,600 SR DTS, all the elements pertaining to the crime, 2014 02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:10,140 demonstrate that the responsibility of the state is 2015 02:00:10,140 --> 02:00:13,860 involved. And I'm basing my analysis on a review of the 2016 02:00:13,860 --> 02:00:17,970 evidence and on the review of the legal framework regarding 2017 02:00:17,970 --> 02:00:19,800 state responsibilities. 2018 02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:23,940 Adam Curry: So this is what this woman does is she reviews 2019 02:00:23,940 --> 02:00:26,790 everything that's already been hashed out a million times. And 2020 02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:32,280 then says my reportage says it must be investigated. It is the 2021 02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:36,360 responsibility of the state of Saudi Arabia. So she wants to 2022 02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:42,510 shift the blame from Mohammed bin Salman, to the entire state. 2023 02:00:42,510 --> 02:00:44,580 And there's a reason for it. 2024 02:00:44,610 --> 02:00:47,760 Unknown: I have concluded that there is sufficient evidence to 2025 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:53,700 demand additional criminal investigation into the liability 2026 02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:58,800 of high level officials. That includes a Saudi Al cattani and 2027 02:00:58,830 --> 02:01:00,480 the crown prince himself. 2028 02:01:00,780 --> 02:01:03,030 Correspondent Christina Jovanovski said Turkish 2029 02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:05,940 authorities are pushing for sanctions against Saudi Arabia. 2030 02:01:05,969 --> 02:01:07,949 Adam Curry: Oh, I forgot to mention one important thing 2031 02:01:07,949 --> 02:01:14,369 about this, this woman is that she has a master's degree from 2032 02:01:14,399 --> 02:01:19,199 buskin University in Turkey. So she's connected to Turkey, the 2033 02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:21,959 Special Rapporteur, and that's when it's important to note 2034 02:01:21,959 --> 02:01:22,229 here, 2035 02:01:22,799 --> 02:01:24,869 Unknown: and the crown prince himself. 2036 02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,450 Correspondent Cristina Jovanovski said Turkish 2037 02:01:27,450 --> 02:01:30,600 authorities are pushing for sanctions against Saudi Arabia 2038 02:01:30,690 --> 02:01:33,210 for the alleged part in the murder. While the 2039 02:01:33,210 --> 02:01:36,000 Turkish foreign ministry says that it supports the 2040 02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,970 recommendations of the United Nations those recommendations 2041 02:01:38,970 --> 02:01:42,870 included wider sanctions against the Saudi Crown Prince. The 2042 02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:47,310 Turkish president has said the killers us Saudi journalist 2043 02:01:47,310 --> 02:01:51,330 Jamal Khashoggi will pay the price as well as the report 2044 02:01:51,330 --> 02:01:54,660 shows that Turkey was being mistreated. Saudi Arabia for its 2045 02:01:54,660 --> 02:01:57,780 part has said that the report shows nothing new that they're 2046 02:01:57,810 --> 02:02:01,530 baseless allegations. Of course, a key response will be from 2047 02:02:01,530 --> 02:02:05,670 Washington. The US President Donald Trump wants to go ahead 2048 02:02:05,670 --> 02:02:09,720 with multibillion dollar arms sale to Saudi Arabia. But today 2049 02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,500 the US Senate is voting whether or not to block such a measure. 2050 02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:18,240 Even some Republicans has supported opposing this arms 2051 02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:23,820 sale or rare bipartisan show of support in the Senate. However, 2052 02:02:23,820 --> 02:02:27,840 two thirds of lawmakers will be required to block the arms sale 2053 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:31,350 and as well as block a possible veto from the US President. 2054 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:34,800 Adam Curry: And there it is, it's all about the arm sales 2055 02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:38,220 it's about nothing else but weapons. It's the military 2056 02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:42,990 industrial complex being kind of thwarted by somebody who maybe 2057 02:02:42,990 --> 02:02:46,680 Turkey wants to make some noise it's all about weapons has 2058 02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:48,390 nothing to do with Khashoggi 2059 02:02:50,370 --> 02:02:54,090 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, maybe well there's competitors to the arms 2060 02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:57,210 Sure. I mean there's the number of ban 2061 02:02:57,210 --> 02:02:59,970 Adam Curry: they bring in the shield from Turkey to to help 2062 02:02:59,970 --> 02:03:01,950 the stir the shit out because calamari 2063 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:05,100 John C. Dvorak: imagine a couple of scenarios one turkeys doing 2064 02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:08,130 this on behest because the Russians want to get into the EU 2065 02:03:08,490 --> 02:03:12,570 on behest of the aerospace industry in the in the EU. Okay, 2066 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:16,710 Airbus Yeah, because so here we go look at the favourite this 2067 02:03:16,710 --> 02:03:20,730 like doing them a favor. And maybe the Saudis will buy from 2068 02:03:20,730 --> 02:03:24,960 the Europeans instead of from us you also could be backdoor thing 2069 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,330 for the Russians, the Russians and the Turks are still pretty 2070 02:03:27,330 --> 02:03:27,840 tight because 2071 02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:30,720 Adam Curry: Turks just bought their s 400 systems. 2072 02:03:32,130 --> 02:03:35,520 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And so you end up with a lot of this is 2073 02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,910 political machinations that are involved that have nothing to do 2074 02:03:38,910 --> 02:03:41,220 with that murder is all to do with arm says you're right. 2075 02:03:41,220 --> 02:03:44,490 That's exactly what it isn't. We're being beef. The public is 2076 02:03:44,490 --> 02:03:46,440 being abused. 2077 02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:51,150 Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. 2078 02:03:51,210 --> 02:03:53,160 Imagine all the people who could do that 2079 02:04:02,010 --> 02:04:04,470 John C. Dvorak: we have a few people to think and we won't 2080 02:04:04,470 --> 02:04:09,000 abuse them. Oh, that's a good news moniker in Hamburg 2081 02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:15,360 Deutschland $111.11. Joseph Chanel in Johnstown, 2082 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:19,290 Pennsylvania. $100 first donation, give him a D douching. 2083 02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:19,920 Okay. 2084 02:04:21,810 --> 02:04:23,640 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2085 02:04:26,130 --> 02:04:29,220 John C. Dvorak: Sean DeSantis 100 bucks and he's going to be 2086 02:04:29,220 --> 02:04:34,080 knighted. Yes. Niels before you know, does he have any of my 2087 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:42,210 requirements? We should let me wait a minute. profanity. 2088 02:04:44,460 --> 02:04:46,530 Adam Curry: I do. I have the whole thing here. I have 2089 02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:48,630 John C. Dvorak: Lord and Lady of Gitmo nation. I think you do. 2090 02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:51,750 Adam Curry: Oh he wants to okay Lord and Lady of Gitmo nation. 2091 02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:55,440 This is Sean DeSantis, a humble slave that kneels before you I 2092 02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:59,970 have completed the requirements $1,000 to a podcast to be 2093 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,460 knighted in the kingdom of sanity in normal sized 2094 02:05:02,460 --> 02:05:05,640 amygdalas. Having been a loyal slave since immigrating to the 2095 02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:08,970 kingdom seven years or so ago, I have hit many in the mouth, as 2096 02:05:08,970 --> 02:05:11,970 is customary in our land. Furthermore, I have completed 2097 02:05:11,970 --> 02:05:15,090 the self imposing pilgrimage of listening to all shows from 2098 02:05:15,090 --> 02:05:19,140 number one, doing so as a fan of history and wanting to better 2099 02:05:19,140 --> 02:05:22,830 understand the lineage of our great nation. Yes, it was a long 2100 02:05:22,830 --> 02:05:26,640 and hard road. So I have knelt before you wounded and tired, 2101 02:05:26,910 --> 02:05:30,600 but steadfast and commitment to my fellow douchebags, producers 2102 02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,810 and slaves with Knights and Dames on the roundtable. As 2103 02:05:33,810 --> 02:05:36,870 witness I request the title of Sir Sean DeSantis night of the 2104 02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:39,960 Northern Everglades guardian of the waters that flow through 2105 02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:44,250 protector of Florida. wild lands and train of those that drive 2106 02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:49,440 air boats aka sir Shawn for short. hookers and blow was all 2107 02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,290 I needed the table wow. 2108 02:05:52,830 --> 02:05:54,870 John C. Dvorak: Oh, get an airboat ride from this guy. 2109 02:05:54,930 --> 02:05:57,090 Adam Curry: He has an airboat That is very cool. 2110 02:05:57,810 --> 02:05:59,820 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I've never been on one either. I've 2111 02:05:59,820 --> 02:06:02,130 Adam Curry: only I remember reading about them in the happy 2112 02:06:02,130 --> 02:06:06,960 haulers book. I love the happy hauler stirs go bombing around 2113 02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,690 the Everglades and they used to get all kinds of airboat rides 2114 02:06:09,690 --> 02:06:11,730 and Captiva and Sanibel 2115 02:06:12,990 --> 02:06:16,350 John C. Dvorak: the happy hour after all that folder all yes, 2116 02:06:16,380 --> 02:06:20,820 he's not even on the list. But the list of what nights 2117 02:06:20,910 --> 02:06:24,120 Adam Curry: he is. I'm just kidding. Don't do that to me. 2118 02:06:25,110 --> 02:06:30,090 Please do not confuse the system. And that was that was a 2119 02:06:30,090 --> 02:06:33,270 cold read by the way. I'd like to hear it for the cold read. 2120 02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,690 John C. Dvorak: Very good very concrete, especially with using 2121 02:06:36,690 --> 02:06:38,400 the Bologna accent 2122 02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:39,840 Adam Curry: pretty funny bologna 2123 02:06:41,250 --> 02:06:44,610 John C. Dvorak: Sir Hey moose honor bucks. Some Haas karma 2124 02:06:44,610 --> 02:06:48,690 coming somebody's way at the end. Catherine Whitesell and may 2125 02:06:48,690 --> 02:06:52,710 bank Texas wherever that you know where that is. douching in 2126 02:06:52,710 --> 02:06:53,670 order okay. 2127 02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:57,240 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2128 02:06:58,620 --> 02:07:02,160 John C. Dvorak: you have a birthday list, listening for the 2129 02:07:02,820 --> 02:07:04,170 money scream it didn't get 2130 02:07:04,290 --> 02:07:07,470 Adam Curry: Dame Dame G money, please. Dame G money Eric 2131 02:07:07,470 --> 02:07:08,010 lawless 2132 02:07:08,010 --> 02:07:11,130 John C. Dvorak: in West Peoria, Illinois 808 and only boob 2133 02:07:11,130 --> 02:07:14,100 donation today singable Zurich in Arlington, Washington, nya 2134 02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:23,850 69962 Jim Zookal 6969. He says, This donation was the donation 2135 02:07:23,850 --> 02:07:26,790 amount that first compelled me to donate at least 10 years ago. 2136 02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:33,150 Let's carry on the traditional amazing product. Robbie Robbie 2137 02:07:33,180 --> 02:07:38,070 Robbie sandal Lynch Sandlin. Yeah. Oh, late. Father's Day 2138 02:07:38,070 --> 02:07:39,930 call out we had to mention his dad then. 2139 02:07:40,019 --> 02:07:42,449 Adam Curry: But then again, he says we Finn celebrate Father's 2140 02:07:42,449 --> 02:07:45,239 Day, the second Sunday in November. So this actually makes 2141 02:07:45,239 --> 02:07:46,019 me early. 2142 02:07:48,270 --> 02:07:51,480 John C. Dvorak: This is to my surprise. 93 year old dad, a 2143 02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:55,470 veteran a veteran of Finland's Continuation War against Russia 2144 02:07:55,500 --> 02:07:58,680 during the Second World War. All right, for fueling the war ended 2145 02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:02,310 in second place, but we staved off the Russian onslaught and 2146 02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:05,580 belong to a select few of European countries who never 2147 02:08:05,580 --> 02:08:08,010 were occupied by outside forces. Thank 2148 02:08:08,010 --> 02:08:09,420 Adam Curry: you dad. Props to that. 2149 02:08:10,170 --> 02:08:13,860 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Thomas Gould in Huntington Beach 5650 2150 02:08:13,860 --> 02:08:19,170 seats six he did send a handwritten note which is worth 2151 02:08:19,170 --> 02:08:22,920 reading a yes donation the memory of my father lying in 2152 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:29,460 rest at Fort Sam Houston, Texas. Oh, USN chief Yeoman, American 2153 02:08:29,460 --> 02:08:34,650 Red Cross Blue lodge Grandmaster elsaffar Highlander. bagpipe 2154 02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:40,950 black Beck SAR bagpipes Allah mol PC volunteer dirty joke 2155 02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:46,920 connoisseur. He passed away very few people are with your dirty 2156 02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:50,460 joke connoisseur you should have a copy of leggins books, 2157 02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,940 especially the volume one cost too much money nowadays. He 2158 02:08:53,940 --> 02:08:59,880 passed away prior to Obama's in masscue emasculation and was 2159 02:08:59,880 --> 02:09:09,720 spared from something antics most Slim says most slim Latino 2160 02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:13,110 jingo request de douching will would oh he needs it 2161 02:09:13,110 --> 02:09:21,180 Adam Curry: yeah Thank you, Thomas. 2162 02:09:22,410 --> 02:09:28,680 John C. Dvorak: That was Thomas Gould. Thomas Nicholas all mines 2163 02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:36,900 3555 Will William ver Hara in Noida vagon. 2164 02:09:39,210 --> 02:09:41,850 Adam Curry: This is from the Netherlands velum for her new 2165 02:09:41,850 --> 02:09:48,270 Efrain NEW NEW NEW assign new kind and he says I want to wish 2166 02:09:48,270 --> 02:09:51,420 my father nice Father's Day because he's my father for many 2167 02:09:51,420 --> 02:09:54,600 years now also health karma from a smokin hot wife waiting for 2168 02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:58,320 her leg to heal from removing sun damage. Yes, we'll give her 2169 02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:02,040 that at the end and Although you're late, sure thing always 2170 02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:03,180 happy to do that. Thank you Bill 2171 02:10:08,189 --> 02:10:13,259 John C. Dvorak: Hello. Nice. Daughter Claire on the birthday 2172 02:10:13,259 --> 02:10:14,729 call this we got that. Hold on. 2173 02:10:15,180 --> 02:10:17,340 Adam Curry: I didn't hear you. Did you do did you do Dean 2174 02:10:17,340 --> 02:10:21,570 Roker? Yeah. I said Dean Rocha. We missed that. We missed it on 2175 02:10:21,570 --> 02:10:24,150 the string. All right. Then Rene Latour, Latour. 2176 02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:26,820 John C. Dvorak: Lead tour. 2177 02:10:26,850 --> 02:10:31,590 Adam Curry: Why is this of the famous Latour vintage to Russia 2178 02:10:31,590 --> 02:10:31,950 or 2179 02:10:31,950 --> 02:10:34,080 John C. Dvorak: the tour is named after a tower on the 2180 02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:35,940 property not after any people. 2181 02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:39,090 Adam Curry: Damn Okay. shows you what I know. Hey, I drink my 2182 02:10:39,090 --> 02:10:41,340 wine from a tube. Tube 2183 02:10:41,460 --> 02:10:44,970 John C. Dvorak: tube drinker. Guy drinks from a tube if you 2184 02:10:44,970 --> 02:10:50,580 know what I mean. Nicholas Lane $52 2185 02:10:50,730 --> 02:10:52,020 Adam Curry: You're good today man. 2186 02:10:53,700 --> 02:10:58,650 John C. Dvorak: Up karma coming up at the end. Eugenia 2187 02:10:58,650 --> 02:11:01,500 Rockwell's do you want 19 Andrew blank? 2188 02:11:01,500 --> 02:11:04,440 Adam Curry: Wait, I'm sorry. Eugenia needs a D douching and 2189 02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:08,940 an F cancer so we'll do the deducing F cancer at the Youth 2190 02:11:08,940 --> 02:11:10,350 band de Deus. 2191 02:11:10,830 --> 02:11:13,830 John C. Dvorak: Thank you so much. Andrew bends and Imperial 2192 02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:20,400 Missoura George watch it in Universal City Texas. Maxine 2193 02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:24,960 Waters gravels back he's gonna this gravel is going to end up 2194 02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:30,120 with a nightmare. Soon. The dollars which is Universal City 2195 02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:32,640 these are following people I'm just gonna name and location for 2196 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:34,950 the city dollar donors at the end here. Tom was told that 2197 02:11:35,010 --> 02:11:41,100 Shawnee, Oklahoma, Joel de ruin in Savannah, Georgia. One of the 2198 02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:42,870 prettiest cities in the country if you've never been there, 2199 02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:48,180 Robert case and mill spring North Carolina. Sure. Eric V. M 2200 02:11:48,210 --> 02:11:54,660 Baron of the valley in Van Nuys, California. Jeffrey Smith 50 2201 02:11:54,660 --> 02:11:59,370 long since last donation best podcast humbly request some F 2202 02:11:59,370 --> 02:12:01,620 cancer another F cancer at the end. We're going to do that. 2203 02:12:01,950 --> 02:12:03,870 Adam Curry: And he has douching 2204 02:12:05,940 --> 02:12:07,800 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2205 02:12:10,350 --> 02:12:12,270 John C. Dvorak: Brad Taylor and Duvall, Washington Scott 2206 02:12:12,270 --> 02:12:16,290 lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Andrew gusik, who I believe Sir 2207 02:12:16,290 --> 02:12:20,130 Andrew gooseneck in Greensboro, North Carolina, Sir Jerry wing 2208 02:12:20,130 --> 02:12:22,770 and Roth who comes in every month from Saugus, California. 2209 02:12:22,770 --> 02:12:26,400 And last but not least a pop money was very quick to hear 2210 02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:34,230 poop money. $50 by the name of Michael Michael knows, maybe 2211 02:12:34,230 --> 02:12:36,930 Adam Curry: it was put money in another reality Villa rial. 2212 02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:37,530 That's right. 2213 02:12:38,610 --> 02:12:40,440 John C. Dvorak: So we want to thank all these folks who were 2214 02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:44,820 supporting show 1148 in the no agenda show in general and and 2215 02:12:44,820 --> 02:12:48,810 helping us produce this thing. Yes, there might Yes. 2216 02:12:48,810 --> 02:12:51,720 Adam Curry: And also thank everybody under $50 You're not 2217 02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:54,630 forgotten. We read all the notes if you do send them but 2218 02:12:54,660 --> 02:12:56,610 typically people don't do that because they want to be 2219 02:12:56,610 --> 02:12:59,070 anonymous. And that's why it's under 50 That is our another 2220 02:12:59,070 --> 02:13:03,840 part of the regs. The regs and rules. But also people are on 2221 02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,840 the subscriptions and I'd love for you to go check them out. We 2222 02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:12,360 do have a website for that it's easy to remember vorak.org/and a 2223 02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:14,100 multiple Karmis to handout here. 2224 02:13:16,890 --> 02:13:22,050 John C. Dvorak: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2225 02:13:35,340 --> 02:13:39,450 Adam Curry: It is the 20th of June my How time flies. 2019. 2226 02:13:39,450 --> 02:13:42,060 Here's our list first our belated birthday sneak Bargo 2227 02:13:42,060 --> 02:13:46,020 feeler turn 37 on the 16th Happy Birthday Jeffrey Smith says 2228 02:13:46,020 --> 02:13:49,110 Happy Birthday to his son William who turned eight on the 2229 02:13:49,110 --> 02:13:56,010 18th. And now looking ahead, we've got hold on Rene Latour 2230 02:13:56,010 --> 02:13:59,550 Happy Birthday to her daughter Claire, and she'll be 17 on the 2231 02:13:59,550 --> 02:14:03,810 22nd Catalina Whitesell says Happy Birthday is named G money 2232 02:14:03,810 --> 02:14:08,010 we love named G money and Sir Ryan Knight of the Three Rivers 2233 02:14:08,010 --> 02:14:11,820 turns 28 on the 28th Happy birthday from everybody here the 2234 02:14:11,820 --> 02:14:18,810 best podcast in the universe let me see we got some oh I had a 2235 02:14:18,810 --> 02:14:23,580 meet up jingle meet up jingle gotta get this into rotation yes 2236 02:14:23,580 --> 02:14:35,130 we do have a meet up jingle know what? That's right. Just like a 2237 02:14:35,130 --> 02:14:40,170 pot, no agenda meetup. We the list is growing no agenda 2238 02:14:40,170 --> 02:14:43,230 meetups.com People really enjoy doing these. I like hanging out 2239 02:14:43,230 --> 02:14:46,860 with like minded people who won't condemn. It's crazy. It's 2240 02:14:46,860 --> 02:14:49,710 like a very your own very little Mastodon instance with no 2241 02:14:49,710 --> 02:14:54,540 blockage. The 27th South East London reconvenes for a meet up 2242 02:14:54,540 --> 02:15:00,270 the 28th Portland, Oregon the 29th of June South Florida. Then 2243 02:15:00,270 --> 02:15:04,440 we have July 4, Seattle July 6. Utrecht, the Netherlands. That's 2244 02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:08,280 a new entry to the list July 9, Knoxville, Tennessee, the 11th 2245 02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:12,360 of July Charleston. Think that's in the Carolinas this 2246 02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:16,620 Charleston, July 13, Atlanta, Georgia July 20. At the RE 2247 02:15:16,620 --> 02:15:19,170 convention of southwest London. There's going to be regulars in 2248 02:15:19,170 --> 02:15:24,150 this the 26th of July st. Louis, Missouri. July 27, Buffalo, New 2249 02:15:24,150 --> 02:15:28,590 York and on the 27th, Frisco, Texas, and then we jump ahead to 2250 02:15:28,590 --> 02:15:32,670 August 9. Murfreesboro, Tennessee. I'm thinking we 2251 02:15:32,670 --> 02:15:35,790 should go to that one. Because you know, that's, that's the 2252 02:15:35,790 --> 02:15:37,140 man. That's the URL. 2253 02:15:37,620 --> 02:15:40,050 John C. Dvorak: Murfreesboro. Yeah, a bunch of other. There's 2254 02:15:40,050 --> 02:15:40,800 lots of people 2255 02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:42,900 Adam Curry: there. Yeah, of course. Of course. It's 2256 02:15:42,900 --> 02:15:48,720 exciting. Very cool. No agenda meetups.com You can find a meet 2257 02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:53,490 up or you trying to distract me because working 2258 02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:56,280 John C. Dvorak: is like adding a little bit little life to this 2259 02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:58,530 Adam Curry: thing. Okay, well, then, like a little music bed. 2260 02:15:58,530 --> 02:15:58,860 You mean? 2261 02:15:59,490 --> 02:16:01,650 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's it a music bed? 2262 02:16:03,690 --> 02:16:05,850 Adam Curry: Right. What? Give me a little more music bed. And 2263 02:16:05,850 --> 02:16:09,570 I'll finish up the segment. So yes, no agenda meetups.com You 2264 02:16:09,570 --> 02:16:13,410 can go find one near you. Or you can list one yourself. It's fun. 2265 02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:16,830 It's easy. And John, I would like to show up at your meet up 2266 02:16:16,830 --> 02:16:19,740 and now that certainly now that the keeper and I have some time. 2267 02:16:19,980 --> 02:16:22,410 We are considering looking around, see if we can find one 2268 02:16:22,410 --> 02:16:30,900 to go to no agenda meetups.com All we need to do now is let's 2269 02:16:30,900 --> 02:16:34,800 do our nights. Here we go. Can you can you swap out the 2270 02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:41,370 recording out there? Thanks. Yeah, good job. Anonymous. 2271 02:16:41,670 --> 02:16:46,050 Sheila DeMarco and Shonda Sadler, step up here on stage. 2272 02:16:46,050 --> 02:16:49,770 The three of you today are joining the no agenda roundtable 2273 02:16:49,770 --> 02:16:51,750 of the Knights and Dames thanks to your support of the show in 2274 02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:54,930 the amount of $1,000 or more. Thank you so much, and I am very 2275 02:16:54,930 --> 02:16:59,880 proud to pronounce the Kate de ser thurb League Dame Sheila the 2276 02:16:59,880 --> 02:17:04,170 lady of Lisboa and Sir Sean DeSantis night of the Northern 2277 02:17:04,170 --> 02:17:07,170 Everglades for you we have hookers and blow rent boys and 2278 02:17:07,170 --> 02:17:10,710 shot and a wife was in waffles. We got harlots and have no 2279 02:17:10,710 --> 02:17:14,130 Rubenesque woman and Rosae vodka delegations and sock a bong hits 2280 02:17:14,130 --> 02:17:16,800 and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and dribbles 2281 02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:20,310 breast milk and papel man, mutton and Mead. The mutton is 2282 02:17:20,310 --> 02:17:25,140 fresh, the meat is a day old, but it is dynamite. And you can 2283 02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:29,280 grab a hold of that and also your ring we do have a reward 2284 02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:31,320 for anyone who becomes a knight or a dame the no agenda 2285 02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:34,920 roundtable it's a fine Signet rain comes with its own sealing 2286 02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:38,610 wax and a certification and we'd love to have you tweet that out. 2287 02:17:38,610 --> 02:17:41,910 Or more importantly, put it on the Federation, get a mastodon 2288 02:17:41,910 --> 02:17:46,170 account, and go to no agenda. social.com Yeah, go go. Go 2289 02:17:46,170 --> 02:17:50,250 ahead. And in fact, um, I think that I'm going to start morphing 2290 02:17:50,250 --> 02:17:55,560 away from Twitter. And the way I'm going to do it is I'm going 2291 02:17:55,560 --> 02:18:01,260 to post everything on no agenda social.com And then I'll post a 2292 02:18:01,260 --> 02:18:05,250 link to it on Twitter. So people will be like, Oh, what's the 2293 02:18:05,250 --> 02:18:09,750 Adams? Versus I know, it's so cool, isn't it? And I'm actually 2294 02:18:09,750 --> 02:18:13,140 going to ask the Dave Jones to make that automatic for me into 2295 02:18:13,140 --> 02:18:17,610 the freedom controller. So I can do it all in one fell swoop. 2296 02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:21,720 Yeah. Come on, man. We gotta we got to support the Federation. 2297 02:18:22,349 --> 02:18:23,729 John C. Dvorak: And that's important. Nothing. 2298 02:18:26,250 --> 02:18:28,380 Adam Curry: Why not want to support the Federation? 2299 02:18:28,620 --> 02:18:32,790 John C. Dvorak: Not supporting the Federation. Such a buzz 2300 02:18:32,820 --> 02:18:34,440 hammer supporting the rebels? 2301 02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:37,860 Adam Curry: Yeah. The red we heard the rebels. That's the 2302 02:18:37,860 --> 02:18:38,670 whole point. 2303 02:18:39,359 --> 02:18:42,509 John C. Dvorak: Yes. What they convinced you. So yeah, 2304 02:18:42,569 --> 02:18:43,799 Federation operates. 2305 02:18:44,130 --> 02:18:49,830 Adam Curry: Have you seen? So Bitcoin is just just pounding 2306 02:18:49,830 --> 02:18:50,610 along here? 2307 02:18:51,180 --> 02:18:53,310 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, let's talk about Libra then. 2308 02:18:53,370 --> 02:18:55,470 Adam Curry: That's exactly why I brought it up. First, the 2309 02:18:55,470 --> 02:19:03,960 current bitcoin price 99,391. And I'm sure having Facebook 2310 02:19:03,960 --> 02:19:09,750 come out as with their own crypto coin has somehow given 2311 02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:14,070 validity to the concept. But I certainly put question marks 2312 02:19:14,580 --> 02:19:17,790 around the implementation that Facebook's doing what do you do 2313 02:19:17,790 --> 02:19:19,560 you have a clip or something of something. I do have 2314 02:19:19,559 --> 02:19:23,369 John C. Dvorak: liberal Libra Facebook as does as Amy Goodman 2315 02:19:23,369 --> 02:19:23,969 would have it 2316 02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:26,550 Unknown: in a move that could reshape the world's financial 2317 02:19:26,550 --> 02:19:30,870 system Facebook has unveiled plans to launch a new global 2318 02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:34,920 digital currency called Libra. Facebook announced its plans 2319 02:19:34,920 --> 02:19:38,430 Tuesday after secretly working on the cryptocurrency for more 2320 02:19:38,430 --> 02:19:42,750 than a year. It plans to launch Libra next year in partnership 2321 02:19:42,750 --> 02:19:47,430 with other large companies among them Visa, MasterCard, PayPal 2322 02:19:47,430 --> 02:19:51,420 and Uber. Facebook said it wants to create quote a simple global 2323 02:19:51,420 --> 02:19:54,930 currency and infrastructure that empowers billions of people. 2324 02:19:55,350 --> 02:19:58,350 David Marcus, Facebook's cryptocurrency chief appeared on 2325 02:19:58,350 --> 02:19:59,970 CNBC on Tuesday. 2326 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,580 John C. Dvorak: If you want to compare Libra with traditional 2327 02:20:02,610 --> 02:20:06,450 cryptocurrencies the first thing and the first big difference is 2328 02:20:06,450 --> 02:20:10,710 that it's bogus. Basically cryptocurrencies are investment 2329 02:20:10,740 --> 02:20:15,150 vehicles or, you know investment assets rather than being great 2330 02:20:15,150 --> 02:20:19,050 medium of exchange. And this is really designed from the ground 2331 02:20:19,050 --> 02:20:22,770 up to be a great medium of exchange, a very high quality 2332 02:20:22,770 --> 02:20:26,430 form of digital money that you can use for everyday payments 2333 02:20:26,430 --> 02:20:29,340 and cross border payments, micro transactions and all kinds of 2334 02:20:29,340 --> 02:20:30,030 different things. 2335 02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:33,420 Unknown: Facebook's plan has already come under fierce 2336 02:20:33,420 --> 02:20:36,750 criticism from financial regulators and lawmakers. French 2337 02:20:36,750 --> 02:20:41,010 finance minister Bruno le maire said Libra must not become a 2338 02:20:41,010 --> 02:20:43,650 sovereign currency. In Washington, the chair of the 2339 02:20:43,650 --> 02:20:46,350 House Financial Services Committee, Congressmember Maxine 2340 02:20:46,350 --> 02:20:49,500 Waters called on Facebook to pause its development of Libra 2341 02:20:49,740 --> 02:20:53,010 until lawmakers and regulators have an opportunity to examine 2342 02:20:53,010 --> 02:20:56,760 these issues and take action. Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown 2343 02:20:56,760 --> 02:21:00,510 tweeted quote, Facebook is already too big and too 2344 02:21:00,510 --> 02:21:04,260 powerful, and it is used that power to exploit users data 2345 02:21:04,290 --> 02:21:07,080 without protecting their privacy. We cannot allow 2346 02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:10,500 Facebook to run a risky new cryptocurrency out of a Swiss 2347 02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:12,240 bank account without oversight. 2348 02:21:12,450 --> 02:21:16,170 Adam Curry: It wasn't enough for these guys to just buy the 2349 02:21:16,170 --> 02:21:20,730 credit card payment information from the companies who do a fine 2350 02:21:20,730 --> 02:21:25,560 job of payments. No, they want it all. And this is part of 2351 02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:29,940 their downfall. This is this is a this is where they high when 2352 02:21:29,940 --> 02:21:33,660 they came up with this idea. This is so stupid. 2353 02:21:34,170 --> 02:21:36,630 John C. Dvorak: We'll always wonder where they were Beans. 2354 02:21:37,740 --> 02:21:41,520 Adam Curry: Beans, that was with Whoopi Goldberg. Yeah, virtual 2355 02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:42,420 currencies 2356 02:21:42,420 --> 02:21:45,630 John C. Dvorak: and some other one was June's or something. You 2357 02:21:46,380 --> 02:21:49,350 can't remember the name of this is an old idea. 2358 02:21:49,590 --> 02:21:51,660 Adam Curry: Well, this is a little different. Wait, it's a 2359 02:21:51,660 --> 02:21:54,390 little different? Because there's really there's Yes, it 2360 02:21:54,390 --> 02:21:54,780 is. 2361 02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:57,960 John C. Dvorak: It's a modified version. i By the way, before 2362 02:21:57,960 --> 02:22:01,170 you go on, I want you to explain. I have a second clip. I 2363 02:22:01,170 --> 02:22:06,750 want you to explain to me how Ron Paul's operation got busted 2364 02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:12,480 for making Ron Paul dollars. If you remember this during the era 2365 02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:15,900 of our show, yes. I do remember this and somebody got thrown in 2366 02:22:15,900 --> 02:22:19,140 jail for doing this. But this is okay. It was 2367 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:26,580 Adam Curry: Liberty dollars. Yes. And oh, let me think 2368 02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:32,100 Liberty dollars. That was I mean, okay, so it wasn't so much 2369 02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:35,310 about they I think they busted one of the one of the guys who 2370 02:22:35,310 --> 02:22:39,360 was running it for they wanted it out. That's for sure that did 2371 02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:42,690 didn't want it to happen. And they had some mechanism to look 2372 02:22:42,690 --> 02:22:46,260 it up again. I you know what, I'm sure one of our producers 2373 02:22:46,260 --> 02:22:49,440 will know exactly what happened back in the day. But this is 2374 02:22:49,470 --> 02:22:53,580 this is still a very different idea. Because they're what 2375 02:22:53,580 --> 02:22:58,770 they're talking about here is, is becoming a central bank, they 2376 02:22:58,770 --> 02:23:03,840 want to be the federal reserve of this money creating and so 2377 02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:08,460 it'd be minting or burning, pet destroying money as they deem 2378 02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:16,530 necessary, which is novel, and they want to peg it to a basket 2379 02:23:16,950 --> 02:23:21,270 of currencies and short term investments, which is like the 2380 02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:26,040 venture capitalist dream. And and they have to be dreaming, 2381 02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:29,040 it's going to work, they've got to be asleep, right? It's it's 2382 02:23:29,070 --> 02:23:31,020 this will never happen. 2383 02:23:31,470 --> 02:23:33,600 John C. Dvorak: And well, let's listen to clip two. And this guy 2384 02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,720 brings up some real problems, which I think is why it will 2385 02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:37,560 never happen. We're 2386 02:23:37,560 --> 02:23:40,230 Unknown: joined by David de and he's Executive Director at the 2387 02:23:40,230 --> 02:23:42,780 American Prospect recently wrote a piece for the New Republic 2388 02:23:42,780 --> 02:23:47,520 headlined the final battle in big Tex war to dominate your 2389 02:23:47,520 --> 02:23:51,750 world. Welcome to Democracy Now talk about these major 2390 02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:55,410 developments David Day and explain exactly what Libre is 2391 02:23:55,410 --> 02:23:57,300 and what Facebook is trying to do. 2392 02:23:57,360 --> 02:24:01,650 So Libra as as Facebook describes it as a currency. 2393 02:24:02,460 --> 02:24:05,820 Cryptocurrency, you when you talk about that, you kind of 2394 02:24:05,820 --> 02:24:09,540 think of something like Bitcoin, but this would actually have 2395 02:24:09,810 --> 02:24:14,280 reserves, so they call it sort of a stable coin. It is backed 2396 02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:19,920 by actual money. That is various international currencies and 2397 02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:23,700 also government securities. And so that should prevent 2398 02:24:23,700 --> 02:24:29,670 volatility from the unit of exchange, Libra going up or down 2399 02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:33,930 very much. It'll it'll fluctuate a little but not in the ways 2400 02:24:33,930 --> 02:24:37,440 that you know, we think of when we think of Bitcoin. So 2401 02:24:37,470 --> 02:24:42,060 according to Facebook, that is the way that this can be used to 2402 02:24:42,060 --> 02:24:47,280 purchase goods on the Facebook app or on any other app or 2403 02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:52,290 website that offers payment in Libra. It's a way to transfer 2404 02:24:52,290 --> 02:24:55,440 money to other people on the Facebook app. Obviously, you 2405 02:24:55,440 --> 02:24:58,140 know, we have what over 2 billion people that use 2406 02:24:58,140 --> 02:25:03,540 Facebook. It's a way to transfer something of value between those 2407 02:25:03,540 --> 02:25:08,490 users. And it's because it's backed by international 2408 02:25:08,700 --> 02:25:13,380 currencies and can be used across borders. It's really, you 2409 02:25:13,380 --> 02:25:19,350 know, supplanting the need to exchange money. If you don't 2410 02:25:19,350 --> 02:25:23,010 have to go from dollars to Euros necessarily, you can just pay in 2411 02:25:23,010 --> 02:25:27,150 Libra. So that's sort of the pitch that Facebook would make. 2412 02:25:27,720 --> 02:25:32,010 The the other side of this is that there's no real regulatory 2413 02:25:32,010 --> 02:25:37,200 setup. It's displacing global currencies in some ways. There 2414 02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:41,580 are serious monetary policy concerns, serious regulatory 2415 02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:46,170 concerns. Could this be used as a to facilitate money laundering 2416 02:25:46,170 --> 02:25:49,920 or tax evasion? There are a whole host of unanswered 2417 02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:51,150 questions around this 2418 02:25:51,180 --> 02:25:54,150 Adam Curry: well yes of course this is the this is exactly it 2419 02:25:54,150 --> 02:25:58,290 would be as if bitcoin was stoppable and we said who come 2420 02:25:58,290 --> 02:26:00,840 and stop me this is the stupidest thing ever they should 2421 02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:05,400 have released it and moved on and gotten traction why that 2422 02:26:05,430 --> 02:26:09,330 this is this makes me suspicious that they never intended to do 2423 02:26:09,330 --> 02:26:12,270 this or there's some other thing they've got up their sleeve to 2424 02:26:12,270 --> 02:26:15,900 announce it and say we'll have it in a year makes no sense 2425 02:26:17,190 --> 02:26:18,390 trial balloon maybe 2426 02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:21,330 John C. Dvorak: that's interesting or test marketing 2427 02:26:21,330 --> 02:26:23,730 you can do that legally and 2428 02:26:23,730 --> 02:26:27,960 Adam Curry: for all these companies like yeah oh yeah, I 2429 02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:29,310 want to pay right 2430 02:26:29,340 --> 02:26:31,110 John C. Dvorak: you're right there's something else does 2431 02:26:31,350 --> 02:26:33,420 something up their sleeve? We don't know what it is know that 2432 02:26:33,420 --> 02:26:33,720 you can 2433 02:26:34,439 --> 02:26:37,379 Adam Curry: well, unless they just decide to go with Bitcoin, 2434 02:26:37,409 --> 02:26:40,049 but Bitcoin doesn't give them all the benefits that they 2435 02:26:40,049 --> 02:26:46,049 really want. And bitcoin does everything they just said only 2436 02:26:46,229 --> 02:26:48,779 with a decentralized architecture. No. And that's 2437 02:26:48,779 --> 02:26:51,839 another thing you know, they will be mining the coins is all 2438 02:26:51,839 --> 02:26:57,539 this man. It may be it's if it's just to discredit Bitcoin over 2439 02:26:57,539 --> 02:26:58,919 and over again. That's an interesting 2440 02:26:59,220 --> 02:27:02,220 John C. Dvorak: thought this for a possibility. Because already 2441 02:27:02,220 --> 02:27:05,040 they've gotten backlash from backlash from people. 2442 02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:08,580 Adam Curry: Between you went on between you and I were PR 2443 02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:11,670 professionals, we never would have done this, you know, 2444 02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:15,450 immediately that you got Maxine Waters now against you. Or you 2445 02:27:15,450 --> 02:27:15,750 made 2446 02:27:16,260 --> 02:27:18,240 John C. Dvorak: the point maybe that's six maybe exact 2447 02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:19,470 professionals Exactly. 2448 02:27:19,470 --> 02:27:22,200 Adam Curry: Well, so there we go. That that's what I was 2449 02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:24,090 worried about. What could they be as what 2450 02:27:24,090 --> 02:27:26,070 John C. Dvorak: you're doing and it's not for some others, the 2451 02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:30,240 only nefarious thing is you guys are on art. This is like writers 2452 02:27:30,300 --> 02:27:35,670 and people certain TV shows they write in and Simpsons is a good 2453 02:27:35,670 --> 02:27:39,450 example family guys another, they write in extremely 2454 02:27:39,450 --> 02:27:43,920 offensive bits. You end up getting pulled out by the sensor 2455 02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:46,620 so they can leave in other things. 2456 02:27:46,620 --> 02:27:47,670 Adam Curry: Bits. Yes. 2457 02:27:49,140 --> 02:27:51,360 John C. Dvorak: So you just saw this is just that this is like 2458 02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:54,900 an offering to the gods. All y'all you guys stopped us from 2459 02:27:54,900 --> 02:27:57,420 doing that you guys are always on our case, we can't do 2460 02:27:57,420 --> 02:28:00,870 anything without you, you guys involving yourselves, and trying 2461 02:28:00,870 --> 02:28:04,140 to run our business. And now they can whine about something. 2462 02:28:04,410 --> 02:28:07,560 Adam Curry: Well, for sure. Every single Silicon Valley 2463 02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:12,210 company that we've looked at the ultimate one of the ultimate 2464 02:28:12,210 --> 02:28:17,580 goals always seems to be that they want to be your bank. You 2465 02:28:17,580 --> 02:28:22,410 know, Apple with Apple Pay Google with Android in the end 2466 02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:28,290 in payments. They all want to be your bank. If that's that's like 2467 02:28:28,290 --> 02:28:32,550 some holy grail for them I once we get their money, and nothing 2468 02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:35,160 it's like, yeah, I'm gonna have those guys in charge of my 2469 02:28:35,160 --> 02:28:41,220 money. They can turn it off. No. Well, we're gonna have to see 2470 02:28:41,220 --> 02:28:45,000 what comes. I mean, if if it was a very smart PR move if there is 2471 02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:50,880 by some crazy realm, the imagination in another universe, 2472 02:28:50,940 --> 02:28:54,870 another curry Devorah Consulting Group, who came up with this one 2473 02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:58,020 two punch. I can't wait to find out what it was, but I'm not 2474 02:28:58,020 --> 02:28:59,250 there yet. I don't understand. 2475 02:29:00,480 --> 02:29:02,280 John C. Dvorak: Well, it will never be revealed. 2476 02:29:03,390 --> 02:29:05,190 Adam Curry: Mm hmm. 2477 02:29:05,880 --> 02:29:10,050 John C. Dvorak: Hey, I gotta go. We got a phone call from from 2478 02:29:10,050 --> 02:29:11,070 the Social Security. 2479 02:29:12,990 --> 02:29:14,040 Adam Curry: Oh, you did, huh. 2480 02:29:14,430 --> 02:29:15,840 John C. Dvorak: And I want to tell people out there yeah, 2481 02:29:15,870 --> 02:29:16,920 they're gonna be calling you. 2482 02:29:17,160 --> 02:29:19,500 Adam Curry: This call is from the Department of Social 2483 02:29:19,500 --> 02:29:23,460 Security Administration. The reason you have received this 2484 02:29:23,460 --> 02:29:26,820 phone call from our department is to inform you that we just 2485 02:29:26,820 --> 02:29:30,240 suspend your social security number because we found some 2486 02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:34,380 suspicious activity. So if you want to know about this case, 2487 02:29:34,380 --> 02:29:35,910 just press one. Thank you. 2488 02:29:36,270 --> 02:29:38,040 Hey, man, it's a deep fake. 2489 02:29:40,260 --> 02:29:43,380 John C. Dvorak: So thank you, Lizabeth Warren for putting a 2490 02:29:43,380 --> 02:29:44,250 stop to this. 2491 02:29:46,830 --> 02:29:48,570 Adam Curry: everything these days I'm just gonna say deep 2492 02:29:48,570 --> 02:29:51,300 fake. Just deep fake. I don't care what you say. Who came up 2493 02:29:51,300 --> 02:29:52,710 with a name? Deep fake. 2494 02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:56,430 John C. Dvorak: Or the name? That was just been an excellent 2495 02:29:56,430 --> 02:29:56,970 Yeah, it's 2496 02:29:56,970 --> 02:30:01,410 Adam Curry: some Newspeak shit. I wanted to play this because I 2497 02:30:01,410 --> 02:30:03,840 didn't get to it on the last show. I think it's incredibly 2498 02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:07,380 important. As we've been talking about ads online, things are 2499 02:30:07,380 --> 02:30:11,760 changing rapidly in Gitmo nation East in the United Kingdom. The 2500 02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:15,870 advertising rules have changed. And I'm not talking about online 2501 02:30:15,870 --> 02:30:17,550 I'm talking on television. 2502 02:30:17,580 --> 02:30:19,800 John C. Dvorak: Today, ads featuring harmful gender 2503 02:30:19,800 --> 02:30:22,920 stereotypes will be banned in the United Kingdom. The move 2504 02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:26,610 follows research that shows such stereotypes pigeonhole people 2505 02:30:26,610 --> 02:30:28,860 and restrict their choices and opportunities. 2506 02:30:29,250 --> 02:30:31,350 Unknown: So one of the new guidelines includes being 2507 02:30:31,380 --> 02:30:34,950 sensitive to the well being of vulnerable populations such as 2508 02:30:35,130 --> 02:30:39,000 new mothers, so ads can no longer suggest that looking 2509 02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:42,360 attractive, maintaining a pristine home are more important 2510 02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:43,980 than their emotional well being. 2511 02:30:44,430 --> 02:30:46,740 John C. Dvorak: They will also have to stay clear of depicting 2512 02:30:46,740 --> 02:30:49,830 children's activities as being inappropriate for any gender. 2513 02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:53,490 The ban also applies to ads and suggest that happiness is gained 2514 02:30:53,490 --> 02:30:56,910 by conforming to stereotypical beauty ideals, like I said, 2515 02:30:56,910 --> 02:30:58,530 which was accused of body shaming. 2516 02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:02,430 Unknown: So, advertising watchdogs are hoping to expand 2517 02:31:02,430 --> 02:31:05,670 choices so that ads like this one depicting a girl growing up 2518 02:31:05,670 --> 02:31:09,750 to be a ballerina, while a boy becomes an engineer will become 2519 02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:12,120 a thing of the past. In 2018, Stockholm 2520 02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:14,310 John C. Dvorak: banned both sexist and racist advertising 2521 02:31:14,310 --> 02:31:18,150 from its streets, but then also introduced similar bans in 2016. 2522 02:31:18,450 --> 02:31:20,970 Unknown: And some in the UK say the new rules are trying to be 2523 02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:25,410 too politically correct. But the watchdogs say it's just harmful 2524 02:31:25,410 --> 02:31:31,410 stereotypes that will be banned, not all of them altogether. Who 2525 02:31:31,410 --> 02:31:31,650 is 2526 02:31:31,650 --> 02:31:34,230 John C. Dvorak: a little girl wanting to be a ballerina? A 2527 02:31:34,230 --> 02:31:38,250 quote, unquote, harmful stereotype? Yeah, 2528 02:31:38,670 --> 02:31:42,330 Adam Curry: I know. And this is Miskin. I can't answer the 2529 02:31:42,330 --> 02:31:42,960 question. 2530 02:31:43,650 --> 02:31:46,410 John C. Dvorak: How come? How does making a little boy want to 2531 02:31:46,410 --> 02:31:51,750 become an engineer a harmful stereotype? I can't answer the 2532 02:31:51,750 --> 02:31:57,330 question. It's It's It's baffling is any woman black, 2533 02:31:57,330 --> 02:32:03,000 white, Chinese, any anything? getting all dolled up with a lot 2534 02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:07,890 of makeup? From a makeup company? A harmful stereotype? 2535 02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:14,250 If you're a makeup company, what are you going to do now? No. 2536 02:32:16,290 --> 02:32:19,260 Adam Curry: It's it's, as I said, it's baffling. And this is 2537 02:32:19,260 --> 02:32:23,580 actual rules. Now is that did she say it was a loss as 2538 02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:26,070 John C. Dvorak: the advertising agencies bringing it on 2539 02:32:26,070 --> 02:32:29,010 themselves? You can blame WPP and Omnicon. And those other 2540 02:32:29,010 --> 02:32:33,510 guys now? Yeah, calm? Because they're the ones who support all 2541 02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:39,180 this. You know, this this? Quote, not equality nonsense, 2542 02:32:39,180 --> 02:32:45,330 but all the kind of left leaning ideas that are out there that 2543 02:32:45,330 --> 02:32:49,830 are what's the movement that's called or it's, I can't remember 2544 02:32:49,830 --> 02:32:53,670 it. But this is this is them. They're the ones who are big 2545 02:32:53,670 --> 02:32:56,790 Hillary supporters that are pushing these agendas, and now 2546 02:32:56,790 --> 02:32:59,760 they're screw screwing themselves. You can not 2547 02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:06,660 advertise. If you can't do anything, and No. No. 2548 02:33:08,820 --> 02:33:10,140 Adam Curry: It's just, it's 2549 02:33:10,890 --> 02:33:13,560 John C. Dvorak: baffling. It's bad, more power to you boys. 2550 02:33:13,740 --> 02:33:19,410 Adam Curry: So apparently, Trump just said he finds it quote, 2551 02:33:19,410 --> 02:33:24,540 hard to believe Iran's downing of the drone was intentional. 2552 02:33:25,500 --> 02:33:27,900 Quote, I have a feeling it was a mistake. 2553 02:33:30,990 --> 02:33:31,890 John C. Dvorak: Was he saying 2554 02:33:31,890 --> 02:33:35,850 Adam Curry: that? Well, I don't know why. Somebody told him. 2555 02:33:36,150 --> 02:33:38,880 Zero said he was gonna send me a clip but I haven't received it. 2556 02:33:39,390 --> 02:33:42,870 That's interesting. So backing off ah. 2557 02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:45,960 John C. Dvorak: Apparently I guess there's something going 2558 02:33:45,960 --> 02:33:47,460 something's going on. We don't know about. 2559 02:33:47,609 --> 02:33:50,249 Adam Curry: Well, maybe he didn't like the whole false flag 2560 02:33:50,249 --> 02:33:54,299 idea. Maybe it actually was bullcrap. And he found out and 2561 02:33:54,299 --> 02:33:58,319 he's like, hey, you know, he doesn't know the full story. 2562 02:33:59,579 --> 02:34:00,539 That's pretty huge. 2563 02:34:05,010 --> 02:34:06,870 John C. Dvorak: All right. I do have a little news 2564 02:34:06,870 --> 02:34:10,350 deconstruction to do. Okay. I found that Amy Goodman does 2565 02:34:10,350 --> 02:34:12,960 democracy now. I was misleading. And 2566 02:34:12,960 --> 02:34:15,060 Unknown: I find what 2567 02:34:16,890 --> 02:34:23,790 John C. Dvorak: 40? So they the Trump losses. The Shanahan guy 2568 02:34:23,790 --> 02:34:28,140 who was Boeing executive? Yes. moved into kind of the Acting 2569 02:34:28,140 --> 02:34:30,690 Secretary of Defense. Yeah, and of course, the Democrats have 2570 02:34:30,690 --> 02:34:33,120 made a big deal about this. But let's play AMY GOODMAN on 2571 02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:35,820 Shanahan I want to ask you a few questions about what you learned 2572 02:34:35,820 --> 02:34:37,980 from this report. Acting Secretary 2573 02:34:37,980 --> 02:34:40,590 Unknown: of Defense Patrick Shanahan has resigned and 2574 02:34:40,590 --> 02:34:43,260 withdrawn from consideration for the permanent head of the 2575 02:34:43,260 --> 02:34:47,370 department. He's resigned his post as Deputy Secretary of 2576 02:34:47,370 --> 02:34:50,910 Defense as reports of domestic violence against his ex wife 2577 02:34:50,910 --> 02:34:55,440 circulated reports included details on a 2011 attack by 2578 02:34:55,440 --> 02:34:59,340 Shanahan's then 17 year old son who beat his mother with a 2579 02:34:59,340 --> 02:35:02,460 baseball bat. that she was left unconscious with a fractured 2580 02:35:02,460 --> 02:35:06,180 skull and internal injuries that required surgery. Patrick 2581 02:35:06,180 --> 02:35:09,210 Shanahan then wrote a memo arguing his son was acting in 2582 02:35:09,210 --> 02:35:13,680 self defense after his mother verbally harassed him. He's also 2583 02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:16,560 believed to have delayed his son's surrender to police. 2584 02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:20,370 Shanahan apologized for the memo saying it was only intended for 2585 02:35:20,370 --> 02:35:23,340 a son's attorneys according to The Washington Post court 2586 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:26,580 records also revealed a previous incident in which both Shanahan 2587 02:35:26,580 --> 02:35:29,820 and his wife alleged they were assaulted by one another. 2588 02:35:29,970 --> 02:35:33,000 Lawmakers are raising questions about the vetting process for 2589 02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:35,790 administration officials and whether the White House knew and 2590 02:35:35,790 --> 02:35:38,490 deliberately withheld allegations against Shanahan as 2591 02:35:38,490 --> 02:35:44,280 early as 2017 when he was being confirmed as Deputy Secretary of 2592 02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:44,970 Defense. 2593 02:35:48,090 --> 02:35:51,090 John C. Dvorak: So the way she starts off, what is your 2594 02:35:51,090 --> 02:35:53,130 conclusion to this when you hear this story? 2595 02:35:53,430 --> 02:35:56,070 Adam Curry: This family is whacked literally. 2596 02:35:56,100 --> 02:36:00,630 John C. Dvorak: Well, what's going on? You think you have any 2597 02:36:00,630 --> 02:36:03,000 idea because it's really not explained? Except 2598 02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:04,920 Adam Curry: if you listened to beginning with some kind of 2599 02:36:05,010 --> 02:36:08,970 domestic abuse situation? The guy's beaten his wife. Yeah. 2600 02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:12,210 Domestic of debts. Yeah. But then it sounds like maybe they 2601 02:36:12,210 --> 02:36:15,900 were fighting and it was equal or it was confusing, but the 2602 02:36:15,900 --> 02:36:18,990 main no one really just said to domestic abuse allegations. 2603 02:36:19,620 --> 02:36:22,590 John C. Dvorak: Well, she did beginning Yeah. Okay. So at the 2604 02:36:22,590 --> 02:36:24,570 beginning again, I want to stop it. I will tell you when to 2605 02:36:24,570 --> 02:36:25,590 stop. Okay. 2606 02:36:25,650 --> 02:36:28,800 Unknown: Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan has 2607 02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:31,860 resigned and withdrawn from consideration for the permanent 2608 02:36:31,860 --> 02:36:35,670 head of the department. He's resigned his post as Deputy 2609 02:36:35,670 --> 02:36:39,360 Secretary of Defense, as reports of domestic violence against his 2610 02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:42,930 ex wife circulated reports included details on 2611 02:36:43,140 --> 02:36:43,980 Adam Curry: his ex wife. 2612 02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:48,240 John C. Dvorak: Well, yeah, they got divorced. Yeah. Is domestic 2613 02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:52,590 violence against his ex wife circulated? What does that sound 2614 02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:52,890 like to 2615 02:36:52,890 --> 02:36:55,740 Adam Curry: you? Sounds like an allegation. Sounds like a rumor 2616 02:36:55,740 --> 02:36:59,160 eating his wife. They have it sounds. Okay. Yes, but it sounds 2617 02:36:59,160 --> 02:37:00,870 like a rumor. Yes. 2618 02:37:01,350 --> 02:37:03,390 John C. Dvorak: This is Amy saying this guy's a wife beater 2619 02:37:03,390 --> 02:37:06,990 is very common. And then oh, all of a sudden the Son has got a 2620 02:37:06,990 --> 02:37:10,020 baseball bat and he's beaten a woman because it's like, you 2621 02:37:10,020 --> 02:37:11,970 know, this is the kind of thing that goes on in a family. The 2622 02:37:11,970 --> 02:37:15,870 bet dad's a wife beater and the son becomes one. Now it's pretty 2623 02:37:15,870 --> 02:37:19,440 extreme and his sons beaten them up a mom but that's okay. So 2624 02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:22,740 let's keep now let's play CBS his version of this and this is 2625 02:37:22,740 --> 02:37:24,480 the Shanahan ousted clip. 2626 02:37:24,510 --> 02:37:26,730 Unknown: Good evening. I'm Elise DuBois. This is our Western 2627 02:37:26,730 --> 02:37:29,910 Addition, another key member of the Trump administration is 2628 02:37:29,910 --> 02:37:33,630 leaving. Today acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan 2629 02:37:33,870 --> 02:37:37,110 withdrew from the formal confirmation process, even as 2630 02:37:37,110 --> 02:37:40,620 tensions with Iran are escalating defense and eight 2631 02:37:40,650 --> 02:37:43,740 other top administration jobs are now held by acting leaders, 2632 02:37:43,890 --> 02:37:47,790 including Homeland Security and Chief of Staff. Shanahan's exit 2633 02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:50,700 comms is caught and police records of domestic violence 2634 02:37:50,700 --> 02:37:53,790 surrounding his divorce were brought to light. David Martin 2635 02:37:53,820 --> 02:37:54,810 has more on that. 2636 02:37:55,290 --> 02:37:58,500 Patrick Shanahan and his wife Kimberly divorced eight years 2637 02:37:58,500 --> 02:38:03,420 ago, a year after a run in with police which began with this 911 2638 02:38:03,420 --> 02:38:06,570 call. My husband son punches at me. According to court 2639 02:38:06,570 --> 02:38:09,720 documents, he denied that and claimed she had punched him, 2640 02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:14,100 giving him a bloody nose. When police arrived she was the one 2641 02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:18,120 charged with assault, which was later dismissed after the 2642 02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:21,300 divorce fights over money and custody of the three children 2643 02:38:21,300 --> 02:38:25,740 who continue in 2011. Their 17 year old son beat his mother 2644 02:38:25,740 --> 02:38:29,370 with a baseball bat. I was knocked unconscious twice. 2645 02:38:29,400 --> 02:38:32,880 Kimberly declared in court documents adding that her ex 2646 02:38:32,880 --> 02:38:37,320 husband has taken the position that I provoked the assault. The 2647 02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:40,650 documents are all public and we're available to the FBI when 2648 02:38:40,650 --> 02:38:44,640 Shanahan was nominated to become Deputy Secretary of Defense in 2649 02:38:44,640 --> 02:38:49,290 2017. But a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee says 2650 02:38:49,290 --> 02:38:50,520 they were never told 2651 02:38:50,580 --> 02:38:55,830 that there was something in this nominees pass Patrick Shanahan's 2652 02:38:56,010 --> 02:39:03,270 pass that was deliberately concealed or mistakenly covered 2653 02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:03,510 up 2654 02:39:03,540 --> 02:39:06,030 John C. Dvorak: to White House officials told CBS News they 2655 02:39:06,030 --> 02:39:09,300 knew about Shanahan's family turmoil. When the President 2656 02:39:09,300 --> 02:39:12,360 announced last month he would nominate him as the next 2657 02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:16,140 Secretary of Defense got asked today President Trump claimed he 2658 02:39:16,140 --> 02:39:20,220 just found out I had heard about it yesterday for the first time 2659 02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:24,030 announcing his resignation. Shanahan said continuing in the 2660 02:39:24,030 --> 02:39:27,960 confirmation process would force my three children to relive a 2661 02:39:27,960 --> 02:39:31,710 traumatic chapter in our family's life. So 2662 02:39:31,710 --> 02:39:32,790 Adam Curry: as a hit job, 2663 02:39:33,540 --> 02:39:36,120 John C. Dvorak: so here is a couple of things we should know. 2664 02:39:36,210 --> 02:39:39,750 First of all, this is spousal abuse that nobody likes to talk 2665 02:39:39,750 --> 02:39:45,840 about. This is when the woman is the abuser. And this kind of 2666 02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:48,450 abuse is always passed on. It's always the man it's always him 2667 02:39:48,450 --> 02:39:51,330 in the red pill movie, by the way discusses this in great 2668 02:39:51,330 --> 02:39:54,630 detail. Let me read a few things here from this from a report. 2669 02:39:55,200 --> 02:39:57,600 Then the police investigated disturbance of the couple's 2670 02:39:57,600 --> 02:40:02,220 residents on 1am August 28. To find Patrick with a black eye 2671 02:40:02,220 --> 02:40:05,640 and bloody nose and Kimberly with a bloody forearm for Sue's 2672 02:40:05,640 --> 02:40:09,270 question Kimberly and say she had a strong odor of alcohol 2673 02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:15,090 along with bloodshot eyes and incoherent speech. They were 2674 02:40:15,090 --> 02:40:17,190 arguing apparently over whether or not to put their daughter 2675 02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:19,320 back in school for a senior year. During the argument, 2676 02:40:19,560 --> 02:40:22,380 Kimberly threw a pile of Patrick's clothes onto the front 2677 02:40:22,380 --> 02:40:25,050 porch then attempted to remove the propane tank from their 2678 02:40:25,050 --> 02:40:28,230 backyard grill to set them on fire. When that didn't work, she 2679 02:40:28,230 --> 02:40:31,620 tried lighting a roll of paper towels on fire in an attempt to 2680 02:40:31,620 --> 02:40:35,610 set the clothes ablaze is trying to pack up the clothes in his 2681 02:40:35,610 --> 02:40:37,860 Patrick was trying to pack up the clothes in a suitcase and 2682 02:40:37,860 --> 02:40:40,080 leave the residence When Kimberly tried to stop and she 2683 02:40:40,080 --> 02:40:43,110 alleges they fought over the suitcase. Patrick punched her 2684 02:40:43,110 --> 02:40:46,170 supposedly several times in the stomach according to her and 2685 02:40:46,170 --> 02:40:48,840 demonstrated to officers that she was struck in the face. 2686 02:40:49,020 --> 02:40:51,900 Patrick's account alleges that Kimberly was the aggressor and 2687 02:40:51,900 --> 02:40:55,290 came at him swinging your arms in a paddling motion, striking 2688 02:40:55,290 --> 02:40:58,650 him several times breaking his nose by the way, while he was 2689 02:40:58,650 --> 02:41:01,770 asleep and tried to cover his face. This was two sides of the 2690 02:41:01,770 --> 02:41:06,240 story. The sons the couple's son corroborated Patrick's version 2691 02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:09,210 of events and told police he saw Kimberly attempting to light the 2692 02:41:09,210 --> 02:41:12,780 clothes on fire. Anyway this goes on and they they rested the 2693 02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:17,550 woman so they get so they get this story goes on and on. So 2694 02:41:17,550 --> 02:41:20,280 your she moves to Sarasota, Florida. I'm gonna read this to 2695 02:41:20,280 --> 02:41:23,370 show what kind of person we're dealing with here. This was down 2696 02:41:23,400 --> 02:41:28,200 in under 2014 According to probable cause affidavit on 2697 02:41:28,200 --> 02:41:32,340 August 23rd 2014 Kimberly Jordans in who's her maiden name 2698 02:41:32,340 --> 02:41:35,580 was on a on the phone with the business partner Eric Goodman 2699 02:41:35,580 --> 02:41:38,730 when she had to cut the call shorter. Goodman called her back 2700 02:41:38,910 --> 02:41:41,760 and an argument ensued where Jordans and hung up on him and 2701 02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:45,840 then texted him get your piece of shit car out of my driveway. 2702 02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:50,280 Goodman was storing a 2003 Mercedes 230 at her house in 109 2703 02:41:50,280 --> 02:41:53,370 warbler lane, when he returned to pick it up the front end 2704 02:41:53,370 --> 02:41:56,610 where we're windshields were busted out and there were 2705 02:41:56,610 --> 02:42:00,690 numerous dents around the vehicle. Go. Goodman spoke to 2706 02:42:00,690 --> 02:42:04,410 her to her neighbor Gardner who told police he saw Kimberly with 2707 02:42:04,410 --> 02:42:07,560 a medium sized sledge hammer methodically circling the 2708 02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:11,610 Mercedes Benz that was parked in her driveway, and that she ended 2709 02:42:11,640 --> 02:42:15,240 the person observed Jordans and strike all sides of the Mercedes 2710 02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:18,150 including the front and back windshields with a sledge 2711 02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:21,270 hammer. I mean, this is a psycho. 2712 02:42:21,420 --> 02:42:23,580 Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, wow. 2713 02:42:24,810 --> 02:42:28,110 John C. Dvorak: By the way, Amy puts it this guy's a wife 2714 02:42:28,110 --> 02:42:31,890 beater. This woman is a psycho and if you had to think about 2715 02:42:31,890 --> 02:42:35,580 it, the son having to beat her back with a baseball bat. This 2716 02:42:35,580 --> 02:42:37,650 is nothing his son normally does with a mom. 2717 02:42:38,160 --> 02:42:40,350 Adam Curry: I want to play the AMY GOODMAN clip and now again 2718 02:42:40,350 --> 02:42:43,590 now just now that now that we have a thank you for that entire 2719 02:42:43,590 --> 02:42:46,290 deconstruction and for the work you did on it. Now let's once 2720 02:42:46,290 --> 02:42:48,540 again hear how that was portrayed by Ami. 2721 02:42:49,860 --> 02:42:52,890 Unknown: Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan has 2722 02:42:52,890 --> 02:42:55,920 resigned and withdrawn from consideration for the permanent 2723 02:42:55,920 --> 02:42:59,760 head of the department. He's resigned his post as Deputy 2724 02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:02,940 Secretary of Defense says reports of domestic violence 2725 02:43:02,940 --> 02:43:07,020 against his ex wife circulated reports included details on a 2726 02:43:07,020 --> 02:43:11,910 2011 attack by Shanahan's then 17 year old son who beat his 2727 02:43:11,910 --> 02:43:15,000 mother with a baseball bat. She was left unconscious with a 2728 02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:18,630 fractured skull and internal injuries that required surgery. 2729 02:43:18,810 --> 02:43:22,290 Patrick Shanahan wrote a memo arguing his son was acting in 2730 02:43:22,290 --> 02:43:26,760 self defense after his mother verbally harassed him. He's also 2731 02:43:26,760 --> 02:43:29,640 believed to have delayed his son's surrender to police. 2732 02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:33,450 Shanahan apologized for the memo saying it was only intended for 2733 02:43:33,450 --> 02:43:36,420 his son's attorneys. According to The Washington Post court 2734 02:43:36,420 --> 02:43:39,690 records also revealed a previous incident in which both Shanahan 2735 02:43:39,690 --> 02:43:42,900 and his wife alleged they were assaulted by one another. 2736 02:43:43,050 --> 02:43:46,110 Lawmakers are raising questions about the vetting process for 2737 02:43:46,110 --> 02:43:48,870 administration officials and whether the White House knew and 2738 02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:51,570 deliberately withheld allegations against Shanahan as 2739 02:43:51,570 --> 02:43:57,360 early as 2017 when he was being confirmed as Deputy Secretary of 2740 02:43:57,360 --> 02:43:57,900 Defense 2741 02:43:57,930 --> 02:43:59,790 Adam Curry: sounds like everyone's being right right 2742 02:43:59,790 --> 02:44:04,350 gentlemen, you know like now the kids and all this stuff I'm just 2743 02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:07,140 let the psycho psycho ex wife go away. 2744 02:44:07,170 --> 02:44:09,450 John C. Dvorak: That's big. One last point. That lot of this 2745 02:44:09,450 --> 02:44:11,940 argument was over custody of the children during the divorce. 2746 02:44:11,940 --> 02:44:15,660 Yes, all three children. Three of them are totally estranged 2747 02:44:15,660 --> 02:44:20,430 from the mom. And she got no custody. Yeah, so how is this 2748 02:44:20,430 --> 02:44:21,390 guy the bad guy? 2749 02:44:23,040 --> 02:44:27,000 Adam Curry: And why do they is this just to embarrass Trump 2750 02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:27,720 Democrats 2751 02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:30,840 John C. Dvorak: pulling their stunts Schumer comes out and 2752 02:44:30,840 --> 02:44:33,900 these other guys these other creeps from the from the from 2753 02:44:33,900 --> 02:44:37,560 the Senate come out moaning about this guy. How did you get 2754 02:44:37,560 --> 02:44:38,970 picked in the first place? 2755 02:44:39,870 --> 02:44:45,030 Adam Curry: What a bunch of douchebags destroying careers 2756 02:44:45,060 --> 02:44:53,070 ever since we invented slavery. Wow, that's a good one. John. 2757 02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:57,090 Appreciate that. That's deconstructing right there. 2758 02:44:57,450 --> 02:44:59,880 That's how it's done. Kids you want to do you want to do a show 2759 02:44:59,880 --> 02:45:06,360 that It's how it's done. What's shown will John do it I'll be 2760 02:45:06,360 --> 02:45:11,700 back in Austin for the next program. And I do want to thank 2761 02:45:11,700 --> 02:45:14,910 big thank to Jesse Coyne Nelson for end of show clip he's got a 2762 02:45:14,910 --> 02:45:20,220 funny one. And so Chris Wilson just did an amazing job on yet 2763 02:45:20,220 --> 02:45:24,360 another end of show saw him which now he needs to be, he 2764 02:45:24,360 --> 02:45:28,320 needs to be publishing this stuff to get just too good. So 2765 02:45:28,320 --> 02:45:30,810 thank you very much everybody for helping with the 2766 02:45:30,810 --> 02:45:33,630 deconstruction helping with the show, helping with the finances 2767 02:45:33,630 --> 02:45:37,320 all part of the value for value network and coming to you from 2768 02:45:37,320 --> 02:45:41,250 the Algarve in the south of Portugal. In the morning, 2769 02:45:41,250 --> 02:45:42,450 everybody, I'm Adam curry, 2770 02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:45,030 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm 2771 02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:47,010 John C. Dvorak we return 2772 02:45:47,010 --> 02:45:49,140 Adam Curry: on Sunday with another episode of the Best 2773 02:45:49,140 --> 02:45:51,180 podcast in the universe please remember us at the 2774 02:45:51,180 --> 02:46:26,100 vortech.org/na Until then adios follows and such It's not 2775 02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:34,980 Unknown: easy being green having to spend each day being color of 2776 02:46:34,980 --> 02:46:45,930 a new day when I think it may be nicer being red or yellow go or 2777 02:46:45,930 --> 02:46:56,130 something more revolutionary like that it's easy being green 2778 02:46:57,870 --> 02:47:08,580 It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary Congress to 2779 02:47:08,610 --> 02:47:12,240 surpass you because you're not standing out like impeachment 2780 02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:23,610 for Russia collusion, or invading Iraq is the color of 2781 02:47:23,610 --> 02:47:36,600 money. Man can be cruel and beggin like angry can be like a 2782 02:47:36,600 --> 02:47:51,450 wind. Important, like a carbon tax offset by truth if green is 2783 02:47:51,450 --> 02:47:57,540 just a green New Deal, it may make you wonder why. Why? 2784 02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:09,270 Because I am CS green. She's fine. She's beautiful. She'll be 2785 02:48:09,270 --> 02:48:13,020 our president in 2030. 2786 02:48:24,690 --> 02:48:28,950 John C. Dvorak: Meanwhile, the clicks to edge to edge the edge 2787 02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:30,390 the edge to edge to edge the edge 2788 02:48:30,750 --> 02:48:33,900 Unknown: referee to target customers stuck in long lines 2789 02:48:33,900 --> 02:48:38,070 when a computer glitch caused problems at checkout. taxpayers 2790 02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:41,280 who waited till the last day to pay Uncle Sam may have suffered 2791 02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:44,970 some digital distress Tuesday. As the US internal revenue 2792 02:48:44,970 --> 02:48:48,390 services computers were hit with a glitch ahead of the Midnight 2793 02:48:48,390 --> 02:48:51,810 tax deadline. Did you guys get affected by this I really want 2794 02:48:51,810 --> 02:48:54,000 to know how many people got affected by the Facebook glitch 2795 02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:57,270 in the past week. Your a meanwhile, 2796 02:48:58,830 --> 02:49:01,500 John C. Dvorak: clicks to edge to edge to edge the edge to edge 2797 02:49:01,500 --> 02:49:02,220 to edge the edge. 2798 02:49:02,490 --> 02:49:05,550 Unknown: technical glitch that caused chaos at London airports 2799 02:49:05,550 --> 02:49:09,300 on Friday has now been fixed and air traffic control systems are 2800 02:49:09,300 --> 02:49:10,440 returning to normal. 2801 02:49:11,160 --> 02:49:13,200 John C. Dvorak: They were deployed longer than any other 2802 02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:16,290 combat unit in Iraq and now they're fighting the Pentagon 2803 02:49:16,290 --> 02:49:21,150 over benefits. Their deployment orders were written for 729 2804 02:49:21,150 --> 02:49:25,860 days. That happens to be one day short of the 730 days needed to 2805 02:49:25,860 --> 02:49:30,240 qualify for benefits under the GI Bill. Well, tonight the army 2806 02:49:30,240 --> 02:49:33,960 is telling NBC News they predict this glitch will be fixed and 2807 02:49:33,960 --> 02:49:36,840 the guardsmen will be eligible for those benefits. 2808 02:49:37,350 --> 02:49:41,580 But I think the big glitch, the major glitch, the Whopper is 2809 02:49:41,580 --> 02:49:45,090 going to supersede everything you said and that is the 2810 02:49:45,180 --> 02:49:46,680 automated update of 2811 02:49:46,710 --> 02:49:48,450 Unknown: Windows Windows. 2812 02:49:49,560 --> 02:50:00,810 John C. Dvorak: That's things down everything that hobo 2813 02:50:00,840 --> 02:50:07,770 Unknown: borak.org/in a one on one one page five