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Adam Curry: We need cohesion.

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Announcer: Adam Curry. John C.
Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Sunday July 12 2020.
This is your award winning give

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our nation media assassination
episode 1259.

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Announcer: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Fully muzzled and
broadcasting live from the mouth

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of the rat in the number one hot
spot in the nation in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
Curry

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John C. Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where he just

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missed an eight gars effort
right on time. And we're still

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trying to figure out what Joe
Biden actually says. I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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Announcer: Crackpot and Buzzkill

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Adam Curry: yay. Ah. Well, in
the morning to you, John.

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John C. Dvorak: In the morning
to you and all them in the

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morning. I'll ship to see boots
to the ground, feet in the air.

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So just the water all the days
and nights out there.

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Adam Curry: I'm happy to hear
that we're still stable at an

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eight car Zephyr this is good
news. We do like hearing this.

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That's excellent. And I am in
Florida. But I'm in Florida.

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John C. Dvorak: And by the way,
that was spelled W t.

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Adam Curry: Y. Very good. What?
Yes, I'm in Florida. Good. Yes.

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I know. Why is Tina's birthday
yesterday was Tina's birthday.

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You're absolutely right. Friends
and family here every well. No.

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She Well, friends and family
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no one came. So I decided I
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hopped on a flight Friday
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so she is able to see at least
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birthday. But yeah, no one no
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some of her family work in the
medical field. So they have an

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actual legitimate reason to not
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Texas. So we decided, and

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John C. Dvorak: by the way, text
is scaring people off flying

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Adam Curry: and travelling. The
best deals ever right now.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, there's
some $39 deals, you get $39

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Adam Curry: deal heels. The the
air port is fantastic. It's like

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flying private, almost. It is.
And we took, of course,

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Southwest is pretty much the
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of rely on right now. I guess.
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direct flights to Florida now.
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then from Dallas, to Florida.
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each flight. So it was
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this is a consistent theme. No
service. There's no service

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anywhere. So we're in a hotel,
no peanuts. No peanuts. We're in

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a hotel. And this is the worst.
It's real. It's so bad. It's not

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a single glass. The room has,
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There's nothing in the minibar.
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they bring it out in in
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disposable cutlery. As we'll

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John C. Dvorak: be living in
Russia, room service

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Adam Curry: comes in a brown
paper bag. It's really, really

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disappointing how how the
service sector has to conduct

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itself just to have some people
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100% mandatory, including and
this this is crazy. The gym.

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John C. Dvorak: do you want to
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Adam Curry: went down to the
gym. Yesterday morning, which

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you had to reserve there was
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John C. Dvorak: before this
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rates at the hotel I assume are
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Adam Curry: my goodness. It's
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And of course you get what you
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John C. Dvorak: yeah, it's it's
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Adam Curry: Now is the time to
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rate lower, not only do they
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anything we want. And every day.
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waived. And what was it like
some other benefit that we got?

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Oh yeah, fourth night free. It's
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I'm happy to doing it. But this
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following news 333 Florida
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number up of course, Today
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the state. So 333 of the testing
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tests by this so that was I
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well Is that even a probability,
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that would be 34% of today's
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can it be 100%? It just seems so
unlike lasts

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John C. Dvorak: that's how it
can happen for bull crap or more

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bull crap.

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Adam Curry: What if we actually
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if it's finally there where we
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or something like that? Is it
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John C. Dvorak: Well, if it
doesn't want, if it's, it is

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crazy to think that in less it
somehow hurts Trump benefits but

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Adam Curry: yeah, Trump is here
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Friday. I didn't even know that
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John C. Dvorak: flew in Mar a
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Adam Curry: at Fort Lauderdale
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John C. Dvorak: there's Mar a
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Adam Curry: Palm Beach. Palm
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it's, I mean, that's mind
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gonna say sure they're all
accurate, I guess. Then we're in

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a whole different realm of

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John C. Dvorak: it's nonsense.
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Adam Curry: where we mind where
we left we left Texas, we left

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Texas in shambles

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John C. Dvorak: Texas get out of
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Adam Curry: we left Texas in
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was being subjected to. On
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Unknown: we still need people to
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still need people to keep social
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the one thing I want to try to
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do that when we're in our homes.
Also, as you know, I'm a

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lifelong San Antonio and grew up
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have. And while we believe the
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Adam Curry: that talking, oh,
this is the this is the guy.

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This is the D S H S. official
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have set that up. Who keeps
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Council meetings and saying,
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100% mass or 35 Day shutdown in

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John C. Dvorak: the Austin City
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Does he live in Austin?

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Adam Curry: He's an author. I
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Austin, but he it's all zoom
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John C. Dvorak: this interview.
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Adam Curry: this interview, I
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background is Austin. So it may
have been an awesome, but

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typically he's in San Antonio.
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guy who's in charge of it. But
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Unknown: work there for many
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community is doing a great job
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they're outside of the home, we
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doing the same thing when we're
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of catching this disease. None
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Adam Curry: Now listen to the
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to protect ourselves, we need to
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loved ones, we really need to be
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we're providing inside the home
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we're not spreading this disease
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it come outside the house. So
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saying is that people should be
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Ryan I'm saying if you can't
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socially isolate or if you've
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yourself and you haven't
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enough when you get home, if you
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medical conditions at home, we
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that. Now if you're the same two
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and you're following all the
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need to wear masks but

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Adam Curry: here's the thing
that gets me now that the who

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has come out and themselves have
said well you know it looks kind

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of like we have spread through
the air aerosol spread which we

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here at the no agenda show I'd
have known for what when did we

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talk to the dog six weeks ago
five weeks ago

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John C. Dvorak: it was too long
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Adam Curry: was exactly what we
heard and the end the best place

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to be is outside not not at home
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had we have 100 And next we have
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where people immediately go
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conditioners all kinds of ways
for it to get spread that in

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that manner. But if you only
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ceiling fan, you'll be much
better and here's the thing that

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pisses me off the most. mass
mass mass mass mass everywhere

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mask in 95 masks are dangerous
to my health. I want to I want

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everyone to understand Then,
that we've been told. But first

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you needed to have the n95 mask
or you're going to die. And this

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is four months ago. Everybody
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mask that filters in but has a
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unfiltered air. You're not
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protecting anybody if you wear
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Would you be told to wear a mask
wear mask inside wear masks when

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you're having sex report right
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masks during sex new study
insists. I mean, what what is

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going on? This has nothing to do
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John C. Dvorak: No, they're just
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Adam Curry: do well, we so we
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actually let's listen to the
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John C. Dvorak: read that sex
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Adam Curry: Yes, I Yes, I do. I
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John C. Dvorak: no no, no. Is
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just put me on? You're just
you're just pulling a mat TV on

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Adam Curry: No, I'm not like
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was a study where couples were
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John C. Dvorak: they do that the
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Adam Curry: Were being led down
a very dangerous path. I would

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like to now turn to the the
turncoat. Governor of Texas,

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Greg Abbott, I have no idea.
Either he's being threatened, or

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he's on a massive power grab.
And I have missed judges, man

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from the beginning. Let's listen
to his story about the rise in

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the testing and the death. And I
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in July, hospitalisation deaths,
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reason why they increase crazy
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the new doctors come into the
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they come into the hospitals,
they're doing their first their

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first service as, as as doctors,

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John C. Dvorak: and that only
had a clip about it. We also had

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a cartoon about it.

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Adam Curry: We had a card. Oh,
oh, that's right. We had to

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animate it. No agenda about it.
Yes, exactly. So this is a fact

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and that is if you look at the
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It could be exactly this. But
let's listen to the the governor

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of the great state of Texas
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Unknown: have seen the deadliest
week in Texas. Since this all

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started we just hit a new high
for hospitalizations Do you feel

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Adam Curry: need to stop when
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hospitalizations. What is neat
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let all of the elective
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people who have cancer. Other
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emergency. So there are a number
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number of beds. And there are a
number of ICU units that have

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that is not being discussed. So
when you hear the ICUs or beds

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this is the deadliest how many
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looking at every chart. I don't
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don't know what she's basing it
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Adam Curry: I can't I can't find
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Adam Curry: This there's no data
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the way. There's no data that
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die. I think he's just pulling
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are the people who had it in
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taking 45 days. Give me a break.

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Unknown: Those are payables. Two
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Adam Curry: This is why I can't
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John C. Dvorak: you don't have a
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Adam Curry: I'm pretty sure it
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saying there's, there's
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Unknown: which are now over 100.
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units. And so actually the worst
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positive. That said is also
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is, this isn't something that's
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Adam Curry: Now, Lubbock is
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apparently there's something
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a big college town. They're
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disease around didn't they have
the blue? Whoa, what's that

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thing? in Lubbock? The blue
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talking? Yeah, there was some
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college kids there were passing
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show about it. The blue waffle.
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John C. Dvorak: Do you not
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Adam Curry: Look up the blue
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Unknown: You're seeing
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double, you're seeing a massive
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positive. The reason is because
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widespread community spread of
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when someone so I'm one in
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place they go to, and engage
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them know whether or not the
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massive it is. That is exactly
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people begin wearing face masks,
the only way that we can keep

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our businesses open. The only
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continue to have a job they need
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everybody to adopt this practice
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have proven that this is a safe
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also slowing the spread of the
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Adam Curry: bless, bless you.
Hope you're okay there. So his

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numbers come from strange
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can't find any of this in the
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to take his word for it. And he
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Unknown: if the mask order is
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soon. What is the next step?

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a great question?

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Adam Curry: Not

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John C. Dvorak: a great
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is not enough to make a
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John C. Dvorak: She's really
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procedural? You will Yes. What
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the next step is not a great
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double down on what you just
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Adam Curry: Actually, just a
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That's how it should be. Could
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a tad? John, I'm coming through
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soon. What is the next step?

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enough. I will tell you this,
the if people use face

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coverings, it will be enough. So
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public needs to understand that
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for me to make to make this
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mayor strongly supports this.
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reason is this. I made clear
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spread of COVID-19. If we do not
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seeing in the state of Texas,
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lockdown. The last thing I want
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Texas wants to do is to see
another lockdown hence the best

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thing everybody can do is do
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of wearing a face covering
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Adam Curry: Okay, let me just
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ground and bearing in mind that
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we'll just stay with the
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everyone's bullcrap. So by
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to do this we have to stop
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Florida which does not have a
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cases than Texas is number one.
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rate at many test centres isn't
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immunity. And if we have that at
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massive amounts of people dying,
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immunity enough people have to
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have antibodies. So what is
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I think Ted Ross, the President,
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World Health Organisation, can
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Unknown: Make no mistake, the
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not the virus itself.

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Adam Curry: Okay. Can I just
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we face right now is not the
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itself. That rather it's the
lack of leadership,

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Adam Curry: oh, lack of
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Unknown: with that and
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Adam Curry: We need global
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Unknown: I said earlier. Each
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reflect and we cannot defeat
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Adam Curry: We cannot defeat the
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Unknown: That COVID-19 pandemic
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and global leadership. Oh, the
virus thrives on division.

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Adam Curry: The virus thrives on
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folks, Abidan. We need cohesion.
Vote for Joe. Don't vote for

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Trump that is divisive. And the
virus will win we

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John C. Dvorak: will die. Our
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fear out of your brains it eats
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when we when we unite.

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Adam Curry: Okay, now, how can
how can we have one hand? People

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telling us you need masks? You
got you got it. You having sex

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have a mask where condom and a
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and my condom over your head.
And wherever you are, make sure

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you're wearing the mask. And 95
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exhaling direct virus is fine.
Just wear him stick put a sock

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on your face. That's fine. Come
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here. That's the guy. That's the
number one guy that everyone

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points to when he's saying it's
the virus is not dangerous. It's

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our divisive pneus. Yes,

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John C. Dvorak: well, you said
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world government ad

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Adam Curry: is just completely
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John C. Dvorak: one world
government is would not have

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Adam Curry: And it looks like
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coming along a bit. Good
evening, John, a lot of news

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Unknown: here tonight. And we
want to start with what you were

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just showing the President over
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to meet with some of these
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President also allowing cameras
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that you're seeing right here,
the president along with members

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of the armed services and his
secret service detail wearing a

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mask. The President wearing a
blue mask with the presidential

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seal on the side of it. This is
the first time that the pool or

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really the main press pool has
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President walk around with this.
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about whether or not he was
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the President doing just that
there's certainly a shot that

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the President wanted to see
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interesting to watch the fallout
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Adam Curry: so looks like he's
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appropriate. They

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John C. Dvorak: probably they
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we get a mask that's red and
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Adam Curry: That's coming.
There's no doubt that's out

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there already out there. They
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John C. Dvorak: But the
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So it's fine. Now it's totally
cool. It looks like a bandit, a

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Adam Curry: Well, so coming down
all these things that kind of

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feel like coming together right
now. And this is the last push

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as we get ready for the vaccines
and and where we're at right now

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is hurting a lot of people and
we'll get to that I know you

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have a couple of a couple of
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about this concept of
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need to think of something
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asymptomatic pre symptomatic not
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remind you what the World Health
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only statement they've ever
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today, but the only statement
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asymptomatic spread is the
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Unknown: from the data we have
it still seems to be rare that

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an asymptomatic person actually
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Adam Curry: Doesn't matter
because we just need to call

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symptomatic COVID-19 cases are a
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spreading. Scientists have found
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be responsible for half of
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Adam Curry: Sila remember,

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John C. Dvorak: we got one woman
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nobody spreading this way. And
now we have somebody saying half

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of them. Where did this study
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's all the
studies. There's a million

449
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:33,300
studies. And you don't even have
to look at them. But but the key

450
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:34,830
here is this global warming

451
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John C. Dvorak: studies. The
money's flowing, apparently

452
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:38,550
police studies.

453
00:25:38,610 --> 00:25:43,740
Adam Curry: The key is silent
spreaders. This is intended to

454
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:49,440
make you fearful and demand that
everybody wear a mask because

455
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,830
they're going to kill you.
Remember, as we've learned from

456
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Black Lives Matter. Silence is
violence.

457
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Unknown: The study found more
than 1/3 of these infections

458
00:26:00,210 --> 00:26:04,050
would need to be identified and
isolated to suppress a future

459
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outbreak. The model assumed
COVID-19 may be most contagious

460
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,030
during the pre symptomatic
stage. So

461
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,760
John C. Dvorak: you know, wait,
wait, it's gotten even worse.

462
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:19,050
Apparently, the spread is worse
during preseason? Yeah. Oh,

463
00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:19,380
yeah.

464
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,700
Adam Curry: So that's why I
can't take it seriously. If

465
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everyone says wear mask wear
masks, but it's really you can

466
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,300
make one of a face cloth. You
can put your old underwear over

467
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:34,590
your face. And 95 mask is great.
You're exhaling directly through

468
00:26:34,590 --> 00:26:38,640
a valve unfiltered, don't worry
about it, you're saving life.

469
00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:44,580
Come on, that's insulting to
anybody. It's just crazy. And

470
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:52,560
this is what it's about. Replace
the word mask with vaccine. And

471
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then you know why we're going
through this. That's the only

472
00:26:57,030 --> 00:27:00,810
conclusion that makes sense.
It's, it's controlling you

473
00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:05,040
forcing you to go along with the
programme to not kill other

474
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,440
people even though on the face
of it. It's bullshit. Makes no

475
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,660
sense. Don't wear an act to

476
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:16,170
John C. Dvorak: show you right.
I'm not going to argue any of

477
00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:23,010
this. But I'm now kind of
curious about Abbott. flip

478
00:27:23,010 --> 00:27:26,610
flopping and then Trump wearing
the mask and then the constant

479
00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:33,930
references to Lubbock college
town. Here I get the sense that

480
00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:38,040
they're they're just say, Okay,
I'm gonna play this game. Your

481
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,920
colleges aren't opening up and
let's see how long you can live

482
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,870
on that endowment. Yeah, you can
do

483
00:27:43,170 --> 00:27:46,770
Adam Curry: fly my wire. Oh, I
like that. I love that. Well,

484
00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:49,080
Lubbock, is it because I hadn't
heard of Lubbock until this

485
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,190
particular report.

486
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,280
John C. Dvorak: You said was the
blue waffle centre? No, I

487
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,220
Adam Curry: hadn't. I hadn't
heard of them in the context of

488
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,120
Coronavirus or COVID. 19 is the
first time hearing of so yes.

489
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,200
John C. Dvorak: This is new.
Yeah. So I'm thinking What about

490
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,100
let's these universities are
this are a scourge in terms of

491
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:11,970
they don't teach American civics
history, anything that's

492
00:28:11,970 --> 00:28:16,530
positive about this all switched
over to his socialist Howard

493
00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:21,780
Zinn sort of curriculum, which
is hate America, which we don't

494
00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:24,330
need. I mean, it's just seems
like the last thing you want is

495
00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:27,330
just brainwashing kids to hate
Americans when they come out.

496
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,570
They can't, they can't work,
they can't get jobs. It goes on

497
00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:33,960
and on. And so let's just see
what happens and put the squeeze

498
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,560
on them.

499
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Adam Curry: That's a very God's
strategy. It costs

500
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John C. Dvorak: a lot of money
to run one of those. Those

501
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things you can't just shut down
and how many students are going

502
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,490
to to pay full tuition. In fact,
Kaylee made mention of this in

503
00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:53,430
her last press conference, I did
not get this clip. Oh, because I

504
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:56,640
ran out of room. But Kaley said,
Well, you know, you maybe you

505
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,770
should talk to these. Talk to my
alma mater. She gets graduated

506
00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:05,040
from Harvard someplace. She's a
hotshot, Oh, really? She says

507
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,320
why don't you talk to these
people about Why are students

508
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,710
paying full tuition? And they
don't even get to go to a class,

509
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:14,490
they have to take it. All right.
Why? Zoom? So why are they

510
00:29:14,490 --> 00:29:17,610
paying full tuition? Why don't
you ask that question, which is,

511
00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:21,480
you know, the way she does
things, and by masking it now.

512
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:24,840
Adam Curry: Well, there's this,
again, it's all politics, and

513
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,440
none of it benefits us. Okay,
great. So now we've got the

514
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,410
president playing the same
shitty politics and meanwhile we

515
00:29:31,410 --> 00:29:35,970
are, we are the victims of it
just more more so because of

516
00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:39,330
this. And what if Abbott says 35
Day lockdown?

517
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John C. Dvorak: He's not going
to do that. Let's just assume

518
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,040
he's not going to okay, because
I at least let me assume that

519
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,020
he's going to do that. And this
whole thing is targeting the

520
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:52,440
universities that this book is
they can't, they can't hold it

521
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,500
off anymore said okay, we'll
play your game. And let's see

522
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,600
what happens at these
universities is when they talk

523
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,660
about reopening the schools
they're talking about reopening

524
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:05,640
the schools that kids go to kids
who really don't get COVID did

525
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,030
not talk about reopening the
universities were adults. I

526
00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:13,350
mean, yeah, you're 1819 When you
go to university, but you're

527
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:17,010
old, compared to like a seven
year old or eight year old.

528
00:30:17,310 --> 00:30:19,830
Adam Curry: So it's possible. So
I'd like to I'd like to see that

529
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there there. Well, really, I
think across the country, we're

530
00:30:23,850 --> 00:30:27,720
seeing these these big
institutions are going down. I

531
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mean, there's it'll never come
back. The whole concept. There's

532
00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:34,680
too many strikes against Harvard
and Yale. I mean, sure, the

533
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,290
elites will still get their
papers from them. They might

534
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,260
they won't even attend. It's all
going to be as cheap as

535
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:44,370
possible. No one wants to pay
this full tuition anymore. If

536
00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:49,440
that's to bring that down as
part of the plan, okay. Now

537
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,120
it's, it's very annoying to me
and to be threatened with 35 Day

538
00:30:54,120 --> 00:31:00,330
lockdown is stressful. Because
me on Judah. I don't like it at

539
00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:00,810
all.

540
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:04,050
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but you do
your media exempt.

541
00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:08,550
Adam Curry: not the point. As
you know. I mean, even Robert De

542
00:31:08,550 --> 00:31:15,390
Niro, he is Coronavirus has
ruined his finances. What Yeah,

543
00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:19,410
Robert De Niro is is ruined
because of the Coronavirus.

544
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:21,990
John C. Dvorak: It's all working
out for the best now.

545
00:31:23,610 --> 00:31:27,840
Adam Curry: He put all his money
in Tribeca Grill in the hotel.

546
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,650
He's got money and Nobu, all of
that shut down and his ex wife.

547
00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:42,600
She demands $100,000 A month
Amex limit. Women are these he's

548
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,840
out there with his accountant
saying I'm ruined man, I don't

549
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,410
know if I can get through this.
I only make seven and a half

550
00:31:49,410 --> 00:31:53,010
million dollars a year now I
can't afford to live this way.

551
00:31:53,610 --> 00:31:57,360
That's Robert De Niro. Literally
complaining in the press about

552
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,680
that. Alright, I want to hear
you what you've got from for

553
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,510
COVID. And then I want to get
into vaccine

554
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,980
John C. Dvorak: Roundup. So we
got some ways to go. I mean, I

555
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:15,120
got the Well, I mean, just
specifically to, to COVID. But

556
00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:20,310
bringing up this something that
San Antonio had mentioned, and

557
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:22,560
we talked about the little kids
going to school, and they're not

558
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,930
going to get anything, although
they can bring it home, right?

559
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:29,190
Which has to be considered. But
there's this thing going on this

560
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:32,340
pre K, they're always trying to
do this with pre K, they're

561
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:34,950
trying to brainwash the kids,
and so you can brainwash them in

562
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:38,010
colleges, because these guys are
all gonna go under. And that's

563
00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:40,560
where the big brainwash is, I
don't know how much brainwashing

564
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,880
you can do to a kid. But
somebody must have some evidence

565
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,770
of something. Because they keep
pushing for pre K pre K pre K,

566
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let's listen to this clips, pre
K for San Antonio one.

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Unknown: So first of all, I just
wanted to ask you to tell us why

568
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pre K matters. You're a former
teacher, you're an

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administrator, you've also
taught education courses at the

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university level. So you kind of
have that bird's eye view of the

571
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whole system. Why does pre K
matter?

572
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:10,500
Well, pre K is really about
brain development. We know that

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young children's brains develop
about 90% of their architecture

574
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in the first five years. And so
we really need to focus on those

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first years to make sure that
children have the underlying

576
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:27,600
academic concepts and brain
structures to learn high levels

577
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600
later on. So it's a really good
investment a good way to get

578
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children off to a great start.

579
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Adam Curry: Whoa. I don't know
what a clip two is, but this is

580
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a borderline.

581
00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:43,470
These kids are what what is
kindergarten, kindergarten is

582
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five. Yeah, there's your four
year four year olds, we've got

583
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it. We got to get their brain
structure just right.

584
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:53,220
John C. Dvorak: Well, this
packet, if you'd lay that clip

585
00:33:53,220 --> 00:33:58,170
again, she says academic Yeah,
structure academic structure on

586
00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:01,980
your brain at four years old.
We've met a four year old.

587
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Unknown: So we really need to
focus on those first years to

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make sure that children have the
underlying academic concepts and

589
00:34:11,970 --> 00:34:14,460
brain structure is to learn at
high levels later on.

590
00:34:18,060 --> 00:34:19,890
John C. Dvorak: is four years
old? Are you kidding me? Who

591
00:34:19,889 --> 00:34:23,159
Adam Curry: was this woman who
was saying this? She's the head

592
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John C. Dvorak: of this
operation called pre K for S A.

593
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And wow, this is on NPR. Yeah,
mining and beauty beauty beauty.

594
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All right. And so she's got this
thing going on within there's a

595
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lot of money involved, and they
are all concerned and not

596
00:34:42,090 --> 00:34:45,540
everyone can get in on the and
pre K always seems to me to be

597
00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:47,880
like, you know, it's a
babysitting service. Totally.

598
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And if anybody thinks you're
getting academic anything,

599
00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:50,700
they're going,

600
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Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Wait
a minute. So this is a great,

601
00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:59,010
this is the biggest problem
parents have their people need

602
00:34:59,010 --> 00:35:01,860
their kids to go back to School
I know people who are spending

603
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:06,300
190 or $200 a week in childcare
so that they can work. If the

604
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:10,080
government now will step in and
say, give them even earlier.

605
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Don't worry, we're gonna give
them the right brain structure

606
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for higher learning later on.
Hmm.

607
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:21,360
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Which is a
crock. But okay. She's got a

608
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,460
good pitch. Let's listen to part
two, it's longer.

609
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Unknown: It's my understanding
that your programme spends an

610
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average of more than $11,000 per
child, compared with about

611
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:34,620
$9,000 per child for public
school, what accounts for that

612
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:36,720
difference? And I understand
that that is a source of some

613
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,460
criticisms. But how do you
answer that?

614
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Adam Curry: Isn't that vague?
Doesn't everybody know what that

615
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,980
extra two grand is? It's called
acquisition cost Hello.

616
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Unknown: Right. So what I say is
we spend what it takes to get

617
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quality. Because we know that
only if you have high quality,

618
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are you going to get those long
term outcomes that are

619
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associated with early learning,
but we also invest in our

620
00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:04,440
people. So we pay a livable wage
to our assistant teachers and

621
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our teachers. But also, we offer
a programme that goes from 715

622
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in the morning till six o'clock
at night, because we know that

623
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families, when they're working,
they can't leave at the end of

624
00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:16,800
you know, the school day at
three o'clock to come pick up

625
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,000
their children. And so ours is a
10 hour programme for families

626
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,280
that are working full time or
going to school full time. And

627
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,590
so those are, that's where some
of the additional dollars go as

628
00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:26,010
well.

629
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And then here's the other side
of the criticism, as I

630
00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:32,430
understand it, there are kids in
San Antonio who don't qualify

631
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:35,670
for pre K for essay, as you as
we mentioned at the outset, it's

632
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:38,700
for families of limited income
is for military families and for

633
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:42,120
English language learners. But
then the kind of high quality

634
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,970
pre K that you're talking about
is very expensive. There have to

635
00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:47,880
be families that are stuck in
the middle. They don't qualify

636
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,380
for pre K for sa but they can't
afford these private programmes.

637
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,510
So what's the vision for them?

638
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,860
Well, that's exactly right. So
we go up for reauthorization in

639
00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:03,030
November, and in our next eight
year authorization, that's where

640
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:07,200
we're going to focus, we are
going to make pre K for us a

641
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,070
free of charge to families who
are in that middle class that

642
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:15,120
making up to up to $65,000 a
year, they make too much to

643
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:18,510
qualify for the free pre K in
the public sector, but not

644
00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:20,730
enough to afford it in the
private sector. So that's really

645
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:23,070
where we're going to focus. And
we're going to work with our

646
00:37:23,070 --> 00:37:26,130
partners in other programmes to
make those high quality seats

647
00:37:26,130 --> 00:37:29,460
available to all families across
San Antonio, because that's

648
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:33,180
really our goal is to make sure
that every family in San Antonio

649
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,090
with a four year old who wants
their child to go to a high

650
00:37:36,090 --> 00:37:38,850
quality programme has access to
that. Okay.

651
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:43,470
Adam Curry: I just want to talk
briefly about this high quality

652
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:48,420
is high quality education,
they're getting it for years. Is

653
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:54,450
it possible that they, they
whoever pre K for essay is and

654
00:37:54,450 --> 00:37:59,760
I'm sure this is elsewhere, I
want to get this the the message

655
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:06,360
in white privilege. white
fragility, wants to get black

656
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:12,990
lives matter. incorporated into
the child's mind very early on

657
00:38:13,140 --> 00:38:18,600
with a result, which is the
Lieutenant Governor of Texas was

658
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,730
talking about. Unfortunately,
the Laura Ingraham show I

659
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:30,240
disliked her even more these
days. But fro Ingraham it's a

660
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:33,390
great statement by the
lieutenant governor,

661
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:36,180
Unknown: look at this. And I
think most Americans look at

662
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:40,380
this the same way we know that
each black life matters. But

663
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:44,760
Black Lives Matter as a group,
their communist organisation and

664
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,370
what you played earlier, they're
trying to take over the school

665
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:50,640
boards to take over the
education of the system and not

666
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,330
will it just indoctrinate the
students to embrace communism,

667
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:58,440
it will turn them against their
own parents, because this is the

668
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,010
not the not the way we grew up.
So people in America need to

669
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,550
understand Black Lives Matters
is a communist organisation, but

670
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:08,790
each black life matters is
important to every one of us.

671
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:12,180
Adam Curry: What better than to
get them even earlier to turn

672
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:13,380
them against the parents?

673
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,990
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's the
theory. I mean, that is an old

674
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:19,410
communist precept that you get
to kids, you know, this goes way

675
00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:21,990
back to the Greek and Roman
times for the head hole, where

676
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:24,390
the kids are just removed from
their parents and brainwashed

677
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:28,290
from day one. To get them to a
point where they have some of

678
00:39:28,290 --> 00:39:32,430
these, you know, these ideas
kind of pushed into that early

679
00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:37,170
era. It's possible that it I
don't know if it works or not. I

680
00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:39,480
mean, there's some evidence that
it does. And I'm sure there's

681
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,330
plenty of evidence that it
doesn't Well, if we look, well,

682
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:44,850
if we look at who is hanging
out, by the way, this is 10

683
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,850
hours a day of propaganda.

684
00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:50,430
Adam Curry: If you if we look at
who was going to be teaching

685
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:55,080
these pre K's, it's going to be
the the new graduates from the

686
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,460
schools who have come out with a
lot of this thinking and the

687
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:05,880
thinking is is inspired and not
just inspired, but is reinforced

688
00:40:06,030 --> 00:40:15,060
by Robyn D'Angelo. Absolutely,
and Britain Brene. Brown. Does

689
00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:16,440
anyone remember that name?

690
00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:19,860
John C. Dvorak: No. review,
please.

691
00:40:20,609 --> 00:40:25,049
Adam Curry: Okay. Brene Brown, a
highly respected she's like

692
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:29,429
Oprah one of Oprah's mentors,
she started this, this this

693
00:40:29,459 --> 00:40:37,229
corporate understanding of
privilege and shaming a lot

694
00:40:37,229 --> 00:40:41,069
about shaming. And in fact, when
I was in therapy years and years

695
00:40:41,069 --> 00:40:47,819
ago, she was brought up with a
in the context of shaming. And I

696
00:40:47,819 --> 00:40:50,819
actually listened to some of her
stuff. But I had never put

697
00:40:50,819 --> 00:40:55,079
together all the different
pieces. The things that she has

698
00:40:55,079 --> 00:41:00,089
been doing is predates Robin
D'Angelo by gosh, maybe even a

699
00:41:00,089 --> 00:41:06,419
decade. Here, actually, she did
a little a little conference not

700
00:41:06,419 --> 00:41:10,199
too long ago. And I have a few
short clips. Here's so this is

701
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:14,669
Brene Brown. And again, she is
Oprah's guru, when it comes to

702
00:41:14,819 --> 00:41:16,289
these types of issues.

703
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,110
Unknown: And our collective
story in the United States is a

704
00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:22,890
story of white supremacy. That
is the story. That's our story.

705
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:29,010
And we have not owned it. So
now. It owns us, it still owns

706
00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:33,060
us. And it defines us, because
we have not had the courage to

707
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:38,400
step in and own the story and
say, this is the truth about

708
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:40,680
where we come from and what
we've done.

709
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,870
Adam Curry: And this is part of
the 1619 project, which we we've

710
00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:49,860
only talked about a little bit
this big New York Times project,

711
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:53,010
which is now also being
introduced into school, which

712
00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:57,960
says no, no, America, the United
States is not 1776 it goes back

713
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,940
to 1619 when the first people
were enslaved, enslaved your

714
00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:07,350
favourite word, enslaved. And it
really rewatched rewrites the

715
00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:12,270
history as as, as I learned it
as you learned it, and it's now

716
00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:16,080
being taught in schools. And
this is the kind of results

717
00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:18,330
Unknown: in every class I've
ever taught. We do a privilege

718
00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:22,740
exercise, where I say, tell me
about bribery.

719
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:25,950
John C. Dvorak: So line stop,
you got her I remember this.

720
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:29,790
This is what we did a whole show
on these privilege exercises.

721
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,070
Where you they asked you to quit
to do this was this was the yet

722
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:37,800
I didn't think it could get
worse than this. But it's been

723
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,190
Adam Curry: with us all along.
We, you know, we've kind of

724
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,820
laughed at it, I guess and like,
Oh, whatever. But it really got

725
00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:47,910
integrated. It's just I got
these two short clips here on

726
00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:48,690
coverage

727
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,610
Unknown: in your life. And you
have to remember I'm looking at

728
00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:54,660
on a class, it's 25%, African
American 25%, Latino, Latina,

729
00:42:54,660 --> 00:43:03,030
Latina X 25% Anglo, and about
25% Asian American. Some people

730
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:08,550
transfer international students.
And in the last several years,

731
00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:12,510
I've had a signer sign language
translator in my classes. So

732
00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:14,490
we're talking about the real
thing. We're talking about what

733
00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:15,570
America looks like.

734
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:21,960
Adam Curry: Okay, no, no, that's
not the American. No, we don't

735
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,600
have 2525 25

736
00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:28,710
John C. Dvorak: and 25 is indeed
beer the numbers to be wrong.

737
00:43:28,890 --> 00:43:33,390
But by the way, I will say this
though when she says that this

738
00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:38,640
would America Lucy. This is
actually a belief as a hardcore

739
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,510
be held by the Democrats
hardcore. Yes. And this is

740
00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:47,040
Democrats actually think by
berating the white voter and you

741
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,630
have to remember back to
demographics. 75% of Americans,

742
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:57,930
and many of them are let's Latin
ex self identify as white and

743
00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:02,130
you start telling Whitey that
he's an idiot. You're gonna

744
00:44:02,130 --> 00:44:04,860
ignite pick up a lot of votes
with that strategy. And that's

745
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:06,750
what the Democrats are doing. It
hit me

746
00:44:06,750 --> 00:44:10,440
Adam Curry: this morning. As I'm
prepping in the in the darkness.

747
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:17,670
It hit me if someone would call
me a racist, or someone with

748
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:20,880
white privilege. Go ahead, John.
Just Just throw it on me just do

749
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,110
one of those and I'll give

750
00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:24,300
John C. Dvorak: you my because
you have right white privilege,

751
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:24,780
dude.

752
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,320
Adam Curry: Excuse me. How dare
you use your privilege to assume

753
00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:38,550
I am white? Come on now. Come on
now. That will shut people up.

754
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,900
Excuse me? Did you just use your
privilege to assume that I am

755
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:46,830
white? Is that what you think
I'm white. John. You can say it.

756
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,210
You can say you don't have to
say I'm not you say your shoe.

757
00:44:51,330 --> 00:44:54,750
You use your premise to assume
that I'm White says enough. They

758
00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:58,950
will never say I can tell you
what a really a really, you

759
00:44:58,950 --> 00:45:02,400
could tell that I'm white. You
just say that yeah, you could

760
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,020
pull that fact, nut job stuff
that they believe in themselves.

761
00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:09,990
And they and they will believe
it. I mean, it's not helping

762
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:13,020
society, we're all going to die
in the end anyway. But at least

763
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:14,730
I'll feel good in the in the
interim.

764
00:45:14,910 --> 00:45:18,030
John C. Dvorak: Oh, you have a
kick get a kick out of it. Ah,

765
00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:23,700
Adam Curry: but I think the
COVID and the Black Lives

766
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:28,410
Matter, and the lock downs, and
where and where blood and this

767
00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:34,020
type of the robin D'Angelo the
what is it equality, diversity

768
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:41,310
inclusivity training. All of
this is, is coming together. And

769
00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:45,690
it's it's there's some real
destruction. And I think it's

770
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:50,160
targeting women. Primarily, this
is why we have the Karen's and

771
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,080
there's, I mean, it's sick, what
is happening, and it's focused

772
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,900
against white, white people and
men. I'm going to read you an

773
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:02,790
email that came in this morning.
And I know two other cases that

774
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:06,630
are similar it of people I know.
It's one of our producers. And

775
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:10,470
it's really, it's horrible what
I'm reading here in the morning,

776
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,040
I'm not able to give a donation
as to this right now. But I

777
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,650
wanted to write you before my
phone is caught off tomorrow and

778
00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:21,180
I no longer have access to the
internet. As far as from Brian,

779
00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:23,790
I wanted to give you and John
and eyes on the ground report

780
00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:27,060
from Eastern Kentucky about what
this virus has done to the poor.

781
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:30,060
Now he doesn't know exactly
everything that's been done. But

782
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:33,450
he says since the virus began,
my life has been turned upside

783
00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:37,980
down. My wife filed for divorce
and became a lesbian. I got the

784
00:46:37,980 --> 00:46:41,820
virus and missed work and lost
my job. And now as they say I am

785
00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:46,050
suffering from homelessness.
This is happening to many I know

786
00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:49,740
especially the divorce rate
surging. I feel somehow the

787
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:52,590
powers that be has found a way
to create a record setting

788
00:46:52,590 --> 00:46:56,910
single parent homes and get rid
of all dads. You and John have

789
00:46:56,910 --> 00:46:59,850
kept me sane these last few
months. I want to say thank you.

790
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,060
I don't know when I will finally
find a job and get internet

791
00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:06,840
again to be able to to listen.
Anyway. So Brian, first of all,

792
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,050
thank you for your courage. I
have heard it not the not

793
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:15,780
necessarily lesbian. But I've
heard women hating men and

794
00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:19,320
hating their husbands and having
visceral reaction to it during

795
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,190
this lockdown.

796
00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:24,390
John C. Dvorak: And part of it
has brings men and women

797
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:24,900
together.

798
00:47:26,190 --> 00:47:31,200
Adam Curry: Part of it is coming
from an oversaturation of

799
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,670
understanding. You know, get rid
of the heteronormative

800
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,530
patriarchy

801
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:40,380
John C. Dvorak: it's being said
we're into the heteronormative

802
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:43,980
patriarchy has been a goal for
years and this thing and a lot

803
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:48,240
of it is the romanticization and
you see you in Hollywood. The

804
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,610
romance pronunciation

805
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:52,950
Adam Curry: romanticization I
got you I got you

806
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:57,450
John C. Dvorak: have single
moms. Yes. Oh, she's a single

807
00:47:57,450 --> 00:48:00,510
mom single mom everything's just
go okay. Everything's great. You

808
00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:03,930
don't need to add single moms
single moms single mom. And as

809
00:48:03,930 --> 00:48:09,210
you and Mo facts even discuss I
mean the the idea is to really

810
00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:15,390
have old fashion nuclear family
is always a better thing to do

811
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:19,890
for in so far as raising kids
are concerned but a romanticised

812
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,780
single mom, and this has been
going on for years. And part of

813
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:29,940
this pre K for essay is really
targeting single moms because

814
00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:34,320
they have to work exactly you
and you got to four year old and

815
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:40,530
you know if you got to do some
with a brat, these people,

816
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:43,680
Adam Curry: whereas we all know
you really want children to work

817
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,990
in the enterprise around the
house, you know, you want to be

818
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:48,570
the working on the farm, that
would be ideal. You want them

819
00:48:48,570 --> 00:48:51,900
doing stuff for the newsletter.
I mean, you want them doing

820
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,630
artwork for the show, or
whatever your business is. And

821
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:57,420
that's why we originally had
kids is to be part of the

822
00:48:58,140 --> 00:49:04,560
enterprise. To some chores, I
feel I can feel it there is this

823
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,720
is so big, what is taking place.
And I have heard consistent

824
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:14,220
stories of women becoming in
their whatever they call

825
00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:19,290
feminist and really just seeing
all the issues with men, and how

826
00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:23,460
can you not, we have joked about
it for several years, how the

827
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,150
worst people in the planet is
gotta be gotta be straight old

828
00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:31,680
white men. Eventually that stuff
leaks in, someone's gonna start

829
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,870
believing it. And if it's if
it's institutionalised, the way

830
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:43,110
I'm hearing it, it's concerning.
And this is not a unique story.

831
00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:50,820
This is not a you know, it's, I
don't know, I am. I don't I

832
00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:54,780
don't. I'm at a loss for words
is what I am, but, but it comes

833
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:59,760
from way, way back and now. I
think that Well, let's let's go

834
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,090
back If I maybe go back and tie
this back into Corona because I

835
00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:05,100
know you have some other reports
Well, let

836
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,050
John C. Dvorak: me get some of
these Corona reports. Let's

837
00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:09,510
Adam Curry: just bear that in
mind. Bear in mind we're looking

838
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:14,370
at a total political issue. We
heard it from the World Health

839
00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:18,090
Organisation from the president
himself Ted Ross. We're not this

840
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:21,690
is not about the about the virus
This is about leadership doing

841
00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:25,740
everything together. Masks is
the first thing the whole world

842
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:28,770
will have to wear masks now in
the Netherlands are starting to

843
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:33,060
it's starting to crop up more
mandatory masking. Same in

844
00:50:33,090 --> 00:50:35,910
Belgium, which is where the
European Union government is so

845
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:39,360
it's going to spread from there.
That is it. It's not about the

846
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,030
medical part. You can put a sock
in your face and it's okay. They

847
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:47,520
say that you can make it out of
cloth but here's my sock tied

848
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,990
around my it's great. So it's
not about a medical issue. It is

849
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:55,620
about compliance. I never
thought it would be I even

850
00:50:55,650 --> 00:50:59,820
laughed at people who said that
and now and now I can't it's

851
00:50:59,970 --> 00:51:00,510
well you

852
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,290
John C. Dvorak: know you're you
have your have mixed responses

853
00:51:04,290 --> 00:51:07,110
you didn't necessarily laugh at
people who said that you're the

854
00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:09,000
first one that says it was a
muzzle

855
00:51:09,630 --> 00:51:13,500
Adam Curry: yeah free speech
muzzle but now I'm seeing that

856
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:19,080
everyone just does it to not
either Well, now in Austin to

857
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,370
get ticketed, to not have other
people point at you and yell so

858
00:51:23,370 --> 00:51:26,490
you just kind of complying with
the crowd Hello, does that sound

859
00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:31,890
familiar to the entire past
years that we've had with with

860
00:51:31,890 --> 00:51:36,420
privilege and and whiteness?
It's all part of the same thing.

861
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:42,240
John C. Dvorak: I had a clip of
somebody yelling at somebody

862
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:45,840
Adam Curry: to hear what
happened. I can't believe you

863
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,170
found you had a clip of someone
yelling at someone you know,

864
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:49,650
let's go

865
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:52,500
John C. Dvorak: to disco dish
finish these COVID Let's go to

866
00:51:52,830 --> 00:51:59,820
the let's go to let's go to the
NPR going with them. Yeah, this

867
00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:03,810
is update in Brazil we know that
Bolsonaro is a horrible right

868
00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:07,800
winger populace he's got to go
we need a guy that wants to you

869
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,530
know become a globalist. So you
gotta get rid of him by

870
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,560
condemning him but let's play
the Brazil report.

871
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,100
Unknown: So meanwhile in Brazil,
President Jair Bolsonaro has

872
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:20,310
been downplaying the threat from
COVID-19 From the beginning, and

873
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:23,130
yet the virus has hit the
country very hard. And this

874
00:52:23,130 --> 00:52:25,650
week, Bolson are himself tested
positive. So Phillip, what's

875
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:27,900
been the reaction to that
development?

876
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,750
Well, it wasn't really a
surprise, as you mentioned, I

877
00:52:30,750 --> 00:52:33,750
mean, he's made a point of
flamboyantly ignoring social

878
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:37,860
distancing. And not only that
actually have some 13 it. Even

879
00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:40,410
when he went live on TV this
week to confirm that he had

880
00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:45,420
tested positive he took his mask
off. His opponents see the fact

881
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:48,720
that he's now infected, as proof
of that he's reckless and

882
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:52,200
irresponsible, a danger to
people's lives and entirely

883
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,680
incapable of handling this
crisis. But there's also some

884
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,310
speculation that Bolsonaro might
try to turn this to his

885
00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:02,850
advantage. If it turns out that
he only has light symptoms, and

886
00:53:02,850 --> 00:53:06,780
he emerges relatively unscathed.
He could use himself as an

887
00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:10,380
example, that what he's been
saying all along is true that

888
00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:12,990
regardless of the fact that
COVID-19 has killed more than

889
00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:17,160
70,000 Brazilians so far, that
this virus really isn't all that

890
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,670
serious, and most people will be
fine, especially if they're like

891
00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:24,540
him, fit and healthy. And
especially they take

892
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:28,470
hydroxychloroquine the drug that
he ardently believes in, even

893
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:31,410
though most medical experts not
to mention the World Health

894
00:53:31,410 --> 00:53:33,900
Organisation do not know

895
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:42,330
Adam Curry: watch he'll he'll
walk through a hospital like our

896
00:53:42,330 --> 00:53:45,780
president and he'll wear a cool
ass mask in the hospital, which

897
00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:49,950
is eventually to say, you know,
I get it in a medical space

898
00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:51,390
whenever he catches

899
00:53:51,390 --> 00:53:56,190
John C. Dvorak: it. If he's
hydroxychloroquine. Dig deep,

900
00:53:56,190 --> 00:54:01,740
which is done. Okay, back to NPR
and listen to their sweet and

901
00:54:01,740 --> 00:54:05,460
rundown which just got a little
gotcha in here. Statistically

902
00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:07,290
which interests me

903
00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:10,050
Unknown: early on Sweden took an
approach to this pandemic that

904
00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:12,840
was just different from that of
most similarly situated

905
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,190
countries. So social distancing,
yes, but no shutdown of the

906
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:20,130
economy, hoping that as part of
the process, the country would

907
00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:23,250
achieve some sort of herd
immunity. How did that turn out?

908
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,060
Yeah, there's there's no getting
away from the fact that Sweden

909
00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:30,900
ended up with a death rate
several times higher than its

910
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,650
Nordic neighbours. Looking at
the latest figures from Johns

911
00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:39,060
Hopkins University 54 deaths per
100,000 people that's ahead of

912
00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:43,200
the US, where it's 40 less per
100,000 people. But if you

913
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,260
compare it to other European
countries like the UK, Italy,

914
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:50,070
Spain and Belgium, who all had
strict lockdowns, their figures

915
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:54,060
are worse. I think where Sweden
really failed was in its

916
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:58,380
strategy to protect the elderly,
the most vulnerable 50% of

917
00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:01,320
deaths have taken place in care.
Holmes and in terms of the

918
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,200
Adam Curry: wait a minute, I
just want to we're still talking

919
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:11,490
about 0.005% or 05. Is it half a
percent or 005?

920
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,970
John C. Dvorak: Well, if you're
gonna go with 64 over 100,000,

921
00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:17,730
you can make that. That would be
what point six I think.

922
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:21,660
Adam Curry: I hate to pull out

923
00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:22,410
John C. Dvorak: a calculator,

924
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,200
Adam Curry: he says, The trolls
are gonna give it to us.

925
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,010
100,064 64 per 100,000. I want
to get it right.

926
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:31,200
Unknown: Immunity. It wasn't the
one stop. You might

927
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,130
John C. Dvorak: say she stopped
to clip. Okay, stop. Let's do a

928
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,540
couple of things we should note,
one. First of all, they downplay

929
00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:45,840
the fact that Sweden is slower
than the rest of the Europeans

930
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,480
that had the extreme lockdowns.
And that would include Italy

931
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,500
with those ridiculously high
numbers. But we can also assume

932
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:55,800
that the Italians had the first
Greg because they were connected

933
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,680
to Wuhan directly because of the
garment industry in northern

934
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,830
Italy. And so they were just
having the Chinese come straight

935
00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:05,460
over and infecting everybody
with the first iteration of the

936
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:09,270
of the virus, which is the
strongest version. And that was

937
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:12,210
that was the one that was that
ended up maybe in New York that

938
00:56:12,210 --> 00:56:14,910
was so stupid was just killing
people left and right, it has

939
00:56:14,910 --> 00:56:17,550
deteriorated over time, which
people don't want to discuss,

940
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:20,970
because nobody wants to admit
that this is a lab created

941
00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:25,980
animal. Here it is. And so but
but just so you have to say they

942
00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:28,950
downplay the fact that Sweden
actually did better than

943
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:32,610
everybody else. And then
secondly, if you take that 50%

944
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,620
By not the old days had half of
these deaths, the 64, half of

945
00:56:37,620 --> 00:56:40,770
them are from the old folks
homes, which means they could be

946
00:56:40,770 --> 00:56:43,020
misdiagnosed, there's a million
things that can go wrong there.

947
00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:46,860
So their real number is 32,
which is half

948
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:54,900
Adam Curry: wait for it or wait
for it. So that is 0.032%. So

949
00:56:54,900 --> 00:57:03,240
that is a that is 3331 Hundreds
of a percent.

950
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:07,410
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that would
be that would be like the

951
00:57:07,410 --> 00:57:08,220
regular flu,

952
00:57:08,850 --> 00:57:10,710
Adam Curry: yet maybe even a
little lower,

953
00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:14,430
John C. Dvorak: lower than the h
one n one, which is another

954
00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:19,440
topic of conversation. Because
apparently during the Biden,

955
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,060
Obama administration, they
actually ordered them to stop

956
00:57:24,060 --> 00:57:28,290
testing. This is a huge scandal
that's not coming out in the

957
00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:29,190
mainstream media.

958
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:30,990
Adam Curry: Tell me you have a
clip. No, you don't have a clip?

959
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:31,440
Of course,

960
00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:34,170
John C. Dvorak: no. Nobody,
nobody's talking about it's just

961
00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:37,560
it's just a great writing and
find a lot of documentation. You

962
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,450
can find there was a report that
was done on CBS by Cheryl

963
00:57:42,450 --> 00:57:47,250
Atkinson in 2009. If anyone can
find this clip, it'll be a

964
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:50,160
miracle. I have not been able to
find it. Cheryl Atkinson is

965
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,250
talking about it now. But she's
not talking about it on the air.

966
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:57,090
In 2009. They were asking the
question she was asking the hard

967
00:57:57,090 --> 00:57:59,910
question, Why are we stopping
testing and we're stopping

968
00:57:59,910 --> 00:58:03,780
reporting on h1 and one when the
death rates are going up the

969
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:06,720
same way they were here. Now

970
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:09,390
Adam Curry: Tina was

971
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:13,259
John C. Dvorak: they stopped
literally stopped testing.

972
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:18,090
Adam Curry: Tina was telling me
so Hola, Tina, was that we got

973
00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:21,180
some kind of weird lag on the
line. Tina was showing me some

974
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:25,020
article that said even though
Sweden has not had a single

975
00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:28,890
death in the past two days,
they're still the worst people

976
00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:33,360
on Earth. I'm paraphrasing the
headline but there's there's a

977
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,700
there's a concerted effort
against Sweden to make sure

978
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:42,780
everyone thinks that they did it
wrong. Despite it looking to me

979
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:44,130
like they did okay.

980
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,380
John C. Dvorak: I think they did
better than okay. Yeah. I mean,

981
00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:52,260
it was all voluntaries the masks
were there. They weren't there

982
00:58:52,260 --> 00:58:55,320
depends. There was some social
distance this week's can do this

983
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,620
stuff. And but they didn't shut
down the whole economy like

984
00:58:58,620 --> 00:58:59,700
maniacs.

985
00:59:00,089 --> 00:59:02,699
Adam Curry: Oh, they did shut
down will not admit they were

986
00:59:02,699 --> 00:59:03,839
all volunteer shutdown.

987
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:04,590
John C. Dvorak: Like it

988
00:59:04,590 --> 00:59:06,150
Adam Curry: was volunteering.
Yeah, there was a lot of

989
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:09,990
volunteer stuff and the mobility
a lot of people worked from home

990
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:14,850
and they're set up for that. And
we are to now and if that was

991
00:59:14,850 --> 00:59:19,230
part of the the objective, do it
to replay this clip this sweet

992
00:59:19,230 --> 00:59:21,150
and rundown continue on that
play the rest of the

993
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,660
Unknown: 1000 people. If you
compare it to other European

994
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:28,050
countries like the UK, Italy,
Spain and Belgium, who all had

995
00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:32,580
strict lockdowns, their figures
are worse. I think where Sweden

996
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:35,730
really failed was in its
strategy to protect the

997
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,700
John C. Dvorak: stop. Yeah. How
do you say that what she just

998
00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:48,090
said, is unbelievably ludicrous.
Yeah, they failed. How did they

999
00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:52,380
fail when their numbers are
lower than the number she just

1000
00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:58,470
cited before? She just cited the
numbers and what they did, but

1001
00:59:58,470 --> 01:00:03,420
somehow That was a failure on
Sweden's part. Well, I You

1002
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:05,640
explain yes and yes all right
logic to

1003
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,280
Adam Curry: me. Yes I Can they
are getting ready for the new

1004
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:14,550
pre K four s a children who will
ingest this information and

1005
01:00:14,550 --> 01:00:19,020
believe, sadly, exactly what
Orwell said.

1006
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:23,520
John C. Dvorak: Pre yes, no H I
T.

1007
01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,770
Adam Curry: Yes, there's no good
as bad black is white, the world

1008
01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:29,790
is upside down.

1009
01:00:30,089 --> 01:00:32,189
John C. Dvorak: I would like you
to back it up and play that

1010
01:00:32,189 --> 01:00:34,049
segment one more time.

1011
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:37,169
Adam Curry: I think that that is
necessary. Here we do

1012
01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:40,380
Unknown: getting away from the
fact that Sweden ended up with a

1013
01:00:40,380 --> 01:00:44,070
death rate several times higher
than its Nordic neighbours,

1014
01:00:44,430 --> 01:00:44,760
looking

1015
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,100
Adam Curry: several times higher
is a mathematical descriptor.

1016
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,890
That means a multiplication
several times. So two times

1017
01:00:55,890 --> 01:00:59,610
three times several, what is
several, is several, three or a

1018
01:00:59,610 --> 01:01:02,400
couple will be two. So can we
say three? What do you think?

1019
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,060
What do you feel for? Can we
just call it four? That's not

1020
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:09,480
true. 1000. But it's not true.
Now?

1021
01:01:10,110 --> 01:01:12,480
John C. Dvorak: Well, she's
talking about great. That's your

1022
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:14,970
name neighbours with Finland.

1023
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,590
Adam Curry: I'm gonna play the
whole thing. Again. Let's listen

1024
01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:20,220
to this. This is this is some
this is some crazy mind control

1025
01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:20,910
early on

1026
01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:23,160
Unknown: Sweden took an approach
to this pandemic that was just

1027
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,550
different from that of most
similarly situated countries. So

1028
01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:31,440
social distancing, yes, but no
shutdown of the economy, hoping

1029
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,750
that as part of the process, the
country would achieve some sort

1030
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:36,060
of herd immunity. How did that
turn out?

1031
01:01:37,170 --> 01:01:39,870
Yeah, there's there's no getting
away from the fact that Sweden

1032
01:01:39,870 --> 01:01:43,680
ended up with a death rate
several times higher than its

1033
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:45,090
Nordic neighbours.

1034
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:48,780
Adam Curry: death rate, John,
not number of deaths death rate,

1035
01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:51,420
Unknown: looking at the latest
figures from Johns Hopkins

1036
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:55,320
University, 54 deaths per
100,000 people, that's the head

1037
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,520
of the US, where it's 40 less
per 100,000 people. But if you

1038
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,580
compare it to other European
countries, like the UK, Italy,

1039
01:02:02,580 --> 01:02:06,420
Spain and Belgium, who all had
strict lockdowns, their figures

1040
01:02:06,450 --> 01:02:10,380
are worth I think where Sweden
really failed was in its

1041
01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:14,700
strategy to protect the elderly,
the most vulnerable 50% of

1042
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:17,670
deaths have taken place in care
homes. And in terms of the

1043
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,600
Adam Curry: every country had
that happen. We had that happen.

1044
01:02:21,630 --> 01:02:23,910
Unknown: Oh, my goodness,
immunity. It wasn't the overall

1045
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:26,400
goal. But it was something that
scientists predicted would

1046
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,730
happen. And we aren't seeing
very high levels of antibodies

1047
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,450
in the population here. And
we're also seeing more science

1048
01:02:33,450 --> 01:02:36,480
and research suggesting that
it's unclear what will happen in

1049
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,820
the future, even those who do
have antibody with

1050
01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:41,610
Adam Curry: science. And we're
seeing more science and research

1051
01:02:41,610 --> 01:02:44,130
that says it's unclear what
we'll see in the future. What

1052
01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:48,540
kind of science and research
results is that? Come on?

1053
01:02:49,710 --> 01:02:50,940
John C. Dvorak: This is the
worst World's

1054
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:54,000
Adam Curry: Worst report. This
is NPR is. I'm so glad you're

1055
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,270
doing

1056
01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:57,180
Unknown: suggesting that it's
unclear what will happen in the

1057
01:02:57,180 --> 01:02:59,340
future even for those who do
have antibodies.

1058
01:02:59,460 --> 01:03:02,640
So are Swedish leaders
acknowledging that they didn't

1059
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,320
get their strategy quite right.

1060
01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:08,520
Swedish leaders have admitted
that things went wrong in terms

1061
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,780
of the death toll specifically
in elderly care homes. But I

1062
01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:15,600
think what's important to point
out here is that it's the public

1063
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,580
authorities, the scientists
employed by the state, they've

1064
01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:23,610
really been the front at the
forefront of this crisis. And

1065
01:03:23,610 --> 01:03:25,680
there wasn't a huge amount of
political debate at the

1066
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,160
beginning. But as the death toll
has has turned out to be a lot

1067
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,700
higher than predicted, as
debates have continued globally

1068
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:35,310
about why Sweden has been doing
things differently. There's

1069
01:03:35,310 --> 01:03:38,490
started to be a lot more concern
and criticism and the Swedish

1070
01:03:38,490 --> 01:03:42,330
government has launched a
Coronavirus commission to look

1071
01:03:42,330 --> 01:03:45,510
into how things were dealt with
at a at a local, regional and

1072
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:46,440
national level.

1073
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,880
Adam Curry: Man there's just too
much money for this stuff. Too

1074
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:54,270
much.

1075
01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:56,400
John C. Dvorak: The Commission's
are coming and going Biden

1076
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,160
wishing for Commission's
Commission's Commission's let's

1077
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,490
do that one more. This is a two
parter. This is a co COVID

1078
01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:06,450
rundown. And this I crap I wrote
down switcheroo so there's some

1079
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:10,920
some switcheroo going on here
with the CBS report. The

1080
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:11,880
Coronavirus

1081
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,120
Unknown: is taking a heavy toll
on the United States many areas

1082
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,390
are seeing a dramatic new spike
in cases and officials are

1083
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:22,290
taking steps to help curb the
spread. In Louisiana Governor

1084
01:04:22,290 --> 01:04:25,770
John Bel Edwards ordered a
statewide mask mandate on

1085
01:04:25,770 --> 01:04:29,100
Saturday. It's set to go into
effect on Monday. bars

1086
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:32,790
will also now be restricted to
take out orders only. And in

1087
01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:35,970
Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance
bottoms ordered the city to roll

1088
01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:40,020
back its reopening plan to phase
one after Georgia reported a

1089
01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:43,680
single day record for new
infections on Friday. Under that

1090
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,580
phase, Atlanta residents will be
required to stay home except for

1091
01:04:47,580 --> 01:04:51,690
essential trips and wear face
masks in public. Across the

1092
01:04:51,690 --> 01:04:56,940
country. More than 3.1 million
cases have been recorded. And

1093
01:04:56,940 --> 01:05:01,680
there have been more than
134,000 deaths. Michael George

1094
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,060
has the latest details.

1095
01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:06,930
John C. Dvorak: Okay, now this
you have to listen to the way

1096
01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:11,790
this was presented. This was
presented as though they hooked

1097
01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:17,100
up the new count to 3 million
cases. Yeah, and then dropped in

1098
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,530
because they're talking about
the surge in that next batch and

1099
01:05:19,530 --> 01:05:23,790
all the rest, and then they drop
into the overall the 134,000

1100
01:05:23,790 --> 01:05:27,060
Dead number. Yeah, the end
continues though. It's somehow

1101
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:27,690
connected.

1102
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:32,220
Adam Curry: Yeah, like co2 and
climate change, baby.

1103
01:05:33,630 --> 01:05:35,460
John C. Dvorak: So I'm, I'm
listening to this going and

1104
01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:37,710
they're just throwing these
numbers out. And they've done

1105
01:05:37,710 --> 01:05:40,650
they've started to all of us are
doing this, I noticed. Nari

1106
01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:45,450
Sreenivasan was doing this. And
all these guys on PBS are doing

1107
01:05:45,450 --> 01:05:48,210
this are doing now they're,
instead of doing the daily

1108
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:54,510
death, they're doing the seven
day average, forward. To come up

1109
01:05:54,510 --> 01:05:57,510
with all these mathematical
models that make the numbers

1110
01:05:57,510 --> 01:06:01,260
sound worse than they are. Yeah.
Yeah. And it's and it's like a

1111
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:05,160
concerted effort. It's like how
much they can't be. This is not

1112
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,440
a good thing for the country
didn't think they're helping

1113
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,260
their cause. The road I don't
get it. Listen to the part two

1114
01:06:10,260 --> 01:06:10,860
of that clip

1115
01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:14,580
Unknown: bars, restaurants and
the young made their way into

1116
01:06:14,580 --> 01:06:17,970
the crosshairs of governors of
southern states where the virus

1117
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,990
is surging.

1118
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:21,960
Adam Curry: This executive order
will prohibit the sale of

1119
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,340
alcohol alcoholic beverages at
all South Carolina restaurants

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01:06:26,340 --> 01:06:29,160
and bars. After 11pm

1121
01:06:29,340 --> 01:06:32,190
Unknown: South Carolina Governor
Henry McMaster threatened to

1122
01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:35,760
strip liquor licences. From
violating proprietors at a

1123
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,150
Kentucky test site bartender
Michael whittler knows what can

1124
01:06:39,150 --> 01:06:41,100
happen after 11pm

1125
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,310
Once it gets too late at night,
it's just unbelievable. It's

1126
01:06:44,310 --> 01:06:47,250
been pretty nuts enough to make
you want to get it tested.

1127
01:06:47,370 --> 01:06:50,700
In Tennessee Shelby County
restaurants require customers to

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01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:53,820
fork over their contact
information before there'll be

1129
01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:58,020
seated infectious disease. Dr.
MNOs Jane is on the local task

1130
01:06:58,020 --> 01:07:00,240
force that mandated the rule. I
think

1131
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,970
it's really important to have
people's names and phone

1132
01:07:02,970 --> 01:07:06,930
numbers, because if there was
someone who was positive in that

1133
01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:10,920
restaurant at the same time,
then the owners can tell

1134
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:12,030
everyone else

1135
01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:15,300
chef and owner Michael Patrick
will hang on to the information

1136
01:07:15,330 --> 01:07:18,480
and Seating Charts for the
better part of a month to help

1137
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,550
trace patrons who test positive

1138
01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:23,550
and I would hate for God forbid
someone to get sick here. But I

1139
01:07:23,550 --> 01:07:26,880
would feel like it was a public
obligation to let people know

1140
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,720
who ate here

1141
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:31,800
for some crowded restaurants and
bars are seen as a toxic

1142
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,550
cocktail.

1143
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,390
Adam Curry: Okay, as I'm sitting
here listening to this, and

1144
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:39,240
please tell me about the
switcheroo. And then just want

1145
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,610
to give you my feeling what's
what what we're seeing here.

1146
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:43,800
John C. Dvorak: Now, the
switcheroo was in the previous

1147
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,130
clip that was, oh, this, okay,
this is you're adding these

1148
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:49,620
numbers as though as part of the
surge

1149
01:07:49,650 --> 01:07:53,700
Adam Curry: So, and I realised
this this morning, I got an

1150
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:59,010
email from a guy who I used to
syndicate my radio show with and

1151
01:07:59,010 --> 01:08:02,580
he's big and radio syndication,
Westwood one, all this stuff.

1152
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,400
And he's doing podcasts you
already sold a podcast

1153
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,800
advertising company doesn't
matter. So we're going back and

1154
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,160
forth. And I'm telling I'm not
interested. I said, No, we're

1155
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,950
not doing Patreon should look
into what I've been doing for

1156
01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:18,330
the past 15 years, whatever,
fine. And I'll see you next time

1157
01:08:18,330 --> 01:08:22,170
in New York. He replies to me.
Yes, next time in New York. Or

1158
01:08:22,170 --> 01:08:25,740
if I'm in Austin, of course,
once we have the vaccine, and

1159
01:08:26,370 --> 01:08:32,820
you and I and everybody, the no
agenda nation, we know that

1160
01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:37,350
we're not that concerned. This
is a reality check. I believe

1161
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:43,050
people outside of our little
bubble have this firmly in their

1162
01:08:43,050 --> 01:08:47,010
heads. It's not over until we
have a vaccine. It's not over

1163
01:08:47,010 --> 01:08:51,090
until we have a vaccine.
Everything will be abnormal

1164
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,740
until we have a vaccine. You can
ask people they will say it I

1165
01:08:55,740 --> 01:09:02,010
think the programming is very
close to complete. And who

1166
01:09:02,010 --> 01:09:06,390
knows. The I guess phase through
act three starts but this is

1167
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:09,180
this is what this is all about.
We have to take it through

1168
01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:12,360
November we have to get rid of
Trump but everyone's using it

1169
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,280
the whole world is coming to
this

1170
01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:19,950
John C. Dvorak: oh yeah, I don't
have any doubt about it. What

1171
01:09:19,950 --> 01:09:23,700
are you talking to this guy but
he wanted us to forget Patreon

1172
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:24,690
What is he talking about?

1173
01:09:24,690 --> 01:09:27,300
Adam Curry: No, he was just
trying to feed you he wants to

1174
01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:30,930
oh, hey Adam. How you doing?
Doug podcast? I should do your

1175
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,380
cell ads for it. That's not the
point. Oh yes. No time radio

1176
01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:39,840
guy. He's a legend in
advertising. knows all the NPR

1177
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,620
scams. I learned a lot from him.
But But she did but yeah, well

1178
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:45,750
John C. Dvorak: let's get back
to this. Okay, so the VAX Yes,

1179
01:09:45,750 --> 01:09:47,970
that's exactly what everyone's
thinking when the vaccine comes

1180
01:09:47,970 --> 01:09:51,870
I here's what I always like to
say. What do you what's the name

1181
01:09:51,870 --> 01:09:57,030
of this is SARS. COVID. To Yeah,
is the actual name of this

1182
01:09:57,030 --> 01:10:02,280
virus. The virus? Yep. They used
it'd be another one it was about

1183
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,490
10. Little more than 10 years
ago. It was before we started

1184
01:10:05,490 --> 01:10:15,360
doing our show. SARS. Cove one.
Yes. Also a manmade lab based

1185
01:10:15,390 --> 01:10:18,630
thing that came out and then
disappeared after a while. What

1186
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:21,510
Why wasn't there ever a vaccine
for that? And why is it still

1187
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:22,050
around?

1188
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,290
Adam Curry: If you want to go
down the vaccines? I'm ready for

1189
01:10:25,290 --> 01:10:26,610
it. No,

1190
01:10:26,610 --> 01:10:28,860
John C. Dvorak: I don't want to
go down to that. We know we have

1191
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:29,550
to question and we

1192
01:10:29,550 --> 01:10:32,430
Adam Curry: have to because
this, this is exactly this is

1193
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:34,350
this is where we're headed with
all this?

1194
01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:37,680
John C. Dvorak: Well, because
that's just a rhetorical

1195
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,800
question. Let me get I think I
have one more. Okay. This is a

1196
01:10:41,550 --> 01:10:45,990
this is a funny clip. This is
COVID says, the two dubious

1197
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:49,320
cases in China is China. What is
the point of this story? I

1198
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,660
wanted to ask you this, a local
story has been played all over

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01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:52,230
the country.

1200
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:56,040
Unknown: Meanwhile, in China,
officials reported two new COVID

1201
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:00,360
19 cases yesterday, both were
imported from foreign countries.

1202
01:11:00,750 --> 01:11:03,420
The National Health Commission
says that brings the total

1203
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:07,890
existing cases in China to 330.

1204
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:10,830
Adam Curry: Now, this is the
switcheroo. In the background of

1205
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:14,160
all of this, obviously, we have
the first country that that took

1206
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,900
this unprecedented move of a
shutdown of a city of 11 million

1207
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:22,830
they set the tone, they set the
template, their media partners

1208
01:11:22,980 --> 01:11:27,750
set the entire strategy. So this
part of it is oh, by the way,

1209
01:11:27,780 --> 01:11:32,070
you're giving it to us. Whoa,
you're bad. So you sit near the

1210
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:35,010
flipping it around this flipping
this around? Yes. This is also

1211
01:11:35,010 --> 01:11:39,990
about Trump. Okay, I want to
talk about the vaccine because

1212
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:46,170
the team that is in place is
fascinating. And I and I and

1213
01:11:46,170 --> 01:11:49,440
I've been talking to a number of
producers who have a lot of

1214
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:52,680
insight into the Catholic church
into the Vatican into what the

1215
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,150
Pope is doing or not doing. And
is it really the pope if Pope

1216
01:11:57,150 --> 01:12:02,070
Benedict only resigned his
ministry and not his office?

1217
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,920
That's just a cool conspiracy
theory I'm launching right here.

1218
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,910
You have to speak Latin in order
to understand that one, but

1219
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,920
Redfield, the CDC director,
another Jesuit, interestingly

1220
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,880
enough, appointed by Alexander
Azar, the health and human

1221
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:28,920
services secretary, who also has
some, I think, Orthodox. I have

1222
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,670
it in the show notes is some
kind of Orthodox Christian

1223
01:12:32,940 --> 01:12:37,230
version of Catholicism. So
they're all kind of involved,

1224
01:12:37,230 --> 01:12:39,630
and they've all known each other
for a long time. And Alexandria

1225
01:12:39,630 --> 01:12:44,010
Azar is a guide. I mean, that's
a huge farmer guy. Key as he was

1226
01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:48,480
running pharma in 2009. I mean,
the guy is revolving door shill.

1227
01:12:49,290 --> 01:12:53,640
So let's listen to Redfield.
This is him on pooper with

1228
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:59,250
Sanjay Gupta. And Cooper is
trying to trick him and nail him

1229
01:12:59,250 --> 01:13:02,640
down. Like why are you caving
into President Trump to help

1230
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,250
them open up the schools early?
Why are you changing your

1231
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:09,690
guidance? But what pooper like
all other completely uninformed

1232
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:14,820
and over socialised people has
been told or not been told or

1233
01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:18,120
has been told is that the CDC
never recommended shutting down

1234
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,910
schools at all. There's no
recommendation for shutting down

1235
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:25,230
schools. Never has been. So the
only thing that is coming out

1236
01:13:25,230 --> 01:13:29,130
now is Well, since you shut
down, here's some strategies,

1237
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,690
which are called guidance that
you can use to get back to some

1238
01:13:33,690 --> 01:13:38,580
normalcy. But Cooper is trying
to nail the CDC director on

1239
01:13:38,610 --> 01:13:42,480
some, you know, horrible fallacy
that he's committed by the

1240
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:43,950
kowtow into President Trump.

1241
01:13:43,980 --> 01:13:46,260
Unknown: Yesterday, the
President tweeted saying I

1242
01:13:46,260 --> 01:13:49,350
disagree with CDC. Gov. On their
very tough and expensive

1243
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:52,200
guidelines for opening schools.
While they want them open.

1244
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,600
They're asking schools to do
very impractical things. I'll be

1245
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,780
meeting with them. Then shortly
after the the vice president

1246
01:13:57,780 --> 01:14:00,870
announced with you standing by
his side, he said this, the

1247
01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:01,380
President said

1248
01:14:01,380 --> 01:14:05,340
today we just don't want the
guidance to be too tough. That's

1249
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:09,660
the reason why next week, CDC is
going to be issuing a new set of

1250
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:10,800
tools. And then our

1251
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,610
Kaitlan. Collins then asked you
had that same press conference,

1252
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,680
if you're changing the guidance,
because the President said he

1253
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,780
doesn't like it. You didn't
answer the question. So I just

1254
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:21,090
want to give you another
opportunity because it does

1255
01:14:21,090 --> 01:14:24,210
sound like CDC is caving to the
President's demands to

1256
01:14:24,210 --> 01:14:27,390
essentially weaken guidelines to
make them less tough. I know a

1257
01:14:27,390 --> 01:14:29,490
lot of thought was put into
those guidelines. Now all of a

1258
01:14:29,490 --> 01:14:30,900
sudden, you're issuing new ones.

1259
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,930
Thank you, Anderson. First, I
want to really stress that the

1260
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,340
the purpose of the CDC
guidelines are to provide a

1261
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:41,730
variety of different strategies
for schools to use to help

1262
01:14:41,730 --> 01:14:43,890
facilitate the reopening of
schools.

1263
01:14:44,010 --> 01:14:46,410
You're saying you're not putting
out new guidelines, but I'm the

1264
01:14:46,410 --> 01:14:50,040
Vice President just said it all
right there. He said. We don't

1265
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,590
want them to be too tough. So
there, you're going to be

1266
01:14:52,590 --> 01:14:55,980
releasing new tools. I know you
said you'd already plan this. It

1267
01:14:55,980 --> 01:14:58,260
sure seems like a coincidence
now that these are going to show

1268
01:14:58,260 --> 01:15:01,770
up next week. especially because
usually these things take so

1269
01:15:01,770 --> 01:15:05,880
much time to go through. I don't
understand. Either

1270
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,570
recommendations are based on
science, or they're not why

1271
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,980
science, why not with new ones?
These guidelines were worked

1272
01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:15,180
over a long time.

1273
01:15:15,509 --> 01:15:17,819
Yeah, they're not new guidelines
that we're coming out with.

1274
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,319
Anderson, we've started the
guidance for K through 12. Back

1275
01:15:22,319 --> 01:15:25,469
in February in higher learning
back in March, we continue to

1276
01:15:25,469 --> 01:15:31,169
update them. The guidance that
we put out recently, for K

1277
01:15:31,169 --> 01:15:35,999
through 12. and higher learning
is our guidance. We continue to

1278
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:39,809
expand that with different tools
like I was trying to complete,

1279
01:15:39,809 --> 01:15:44,099
we have a tool to help schools
understand how to test for

1280
01:15:44,099 --> 01:15:47,729
symptoms, we have a tool coming
out on how to use facemask in

1281
01:15:47,729 --> 01:15:51,119
the school setting, we have a
tool coming out for parents to

1282
01:15:51,359 --> 01:15:53,729
understand a checklist of
understanding whether their

1283
01:15:53,729 --> 01:15:56,819
child should come out to school.
So the Vice President was

1284
01:15:56,819 --> 01:15:59,579
referring to the additional
tools that we have, that we're

1285
01:15:59,579 --> 01:16:01,919
planning out, but we're not when
there's not a change in our

1286
01:16:01,919 --> 01:16:02,669
guidance.

1287
01:16:02,730 --> 01:16:05,340
Adam Curry: So here's the
background on this Redfield guy

1288
01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:10,890
who was pretty good, their key
and you remember Burke's Of

1289
01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:15,300
course, Dr. Deborah Burks, who I
used to risk I used to seem so

1290
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:21,300
hard for her. She was a colonel
in the army. Redfield was also a

1291
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:26,520
ranking officer. They together
ran the AIDS trials, the HIV

1292
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,450
AIDS trials, which in the armed
services, it was, I mean, it was

1293
01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:35,160
horrific. They had PCR test, the
same we have now that had a high

1294
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,300
rate of false positive and about
half as high rate of false

1295
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:44,100
negatives. And then people were
quarantined on base in what

1296
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:48,930
people called the HIV hotel. And
the vaccine was tested on them,

1297
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:54,030
which I think was GP 160. Now,
long story short, all of it's in

1298
01:16:54,030 --> 01:16:58,290
the shownotes. They were both
brought before a commission coup

1299
01:16:58,290 --> 01:17:04,020
found that they had fudged the
numbers in order to accelerate

1300
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:09,420
the development of this GP 160
HIV AIDS vaccine, but nothing

1301
01:17:09,420 --> 01:17:14,160
was done with that information.
It's called What's it Laurie

1302
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,830
versus Department of Army 970.
So it's in the show notes if you

1303
01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:20,190
want to look at it. So these
people have been doing this with

1304
01:17:20,190 --> 01:17:24,720
the AIDS vaccine. They're using
the same platform. In fact,

1305
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,580
here's our new friend, Dr.
Francis Collins, updating the

1306
01:17:29,580 --> 01:17:32,670
Senate on the vaccine
development. Just a couple of

1307
01:17:33,060 --> 01:17:34,350
interesting background points.

1308
01:17:34,379 --> 01:17:36,569
Unknown: Thursday, scientists
overseeing development of

1309
01:17:36,569 --> 01:17:40,409
Coronavirus vaccines assured
lawmakers help is on the way

1310
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:43,620
we are all optimistic that the
goal that we have set to have a

1311
01:17:43,620 --> 01:17:47,820
vaccine that works and is safe
by the end of 2020

1312
01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:48,840
will be met Dr.

1313
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,780
Francis Collins, Director of the
National Institutes of Health

1314
01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:55,530
says operation warp speed as
testing and manufacturing

1315
01:17:55,530 --> 01:18:00,060
promising vaccines all being
conducted side by side, Missouri

1316
01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:03,420
Republican senator Roy Blunt
raise concerns about speed

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versus safety.

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Do you have any concerns that on
the vaccine side, that FDA is

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,440
not going through every safety
step?

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01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:14,340
No compromise

1321
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:17,400
at all. On the safety and the
efficacy standards.

1322
01:18:17,490 --> 01:18:20,550
Illinois Democratic Senator Dick
Durbin pointed to a defective

1323
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:24,690
1950 by polio vaccine that
sickened 10s of 1000s of

1324
01:18:24,690 --> 01:18:29,010
children with a disease and kill
10. Can you reflect on that for

1325
01:18:29,010 --> 01:18:30,870
a moment? That was a terrible
tragedy?

1326
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:33,840
I think I can reassure you and
the American people that that

1327
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,470
strategy of trying to administer
a killed vaccine is not

1328
01:18:37,470 --> 01:18:39,030
currently being pursued.

1329
01:18:39,090 --> 01:18:41,790
Dr. Collins says thanks to
billions and federal dollars,

1330
01:18:41,790 --> 01:18:44,640
his team is making great
progress. But Washington

1331
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,180
Democratic Senator Patty Murray
worries drug companies might get

1332
01:18:48,180 --> 01:18:51,150
greedy at the expense of the
public. I'm

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01:18:51,180 --> 01:18:53,970
very concerned that
pharmaceutical companies have

1334
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:55,230
dictated the terms.

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01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:57,960
The goal is to ensure the
vaccine access for all

1336
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,010
Americans. CDC

1337
01:18:59,010 --> 01:19:02,190
Director Dr. Robert Redfield
says he's cautiously optimistic

1338
01:19:02,190 --> 01:19:05,340
the vaccine will be ready by
April of next year.

1339
01:19:05,639 --> 01:19:08,759
Adam Curry: So that report that
editing was in the actual TV

1340
01:19:08,759 --> 01:19:13,229
report, it would that taken two
word sentences from people to

1341
01:19:13,229 --> 01:19:16,619
try and stitch together whatever
story they want to portray, but

1342
01:19:16,619 --> 01:19:21,659
something is up with HIV, the
team is the same team and Bill

1343
01:19:21,659 --> 01:19:26,129
Gates is giving away something
in they just had an HIV. So oops

1344
01:19:26,129 --> 01:19:33,149
and HIV summit 2020, which I
didn't know about. And he's now

1345
01:19:33,149 --> 01:19:36,689
also mixing in HIV and COVID.
The pandemic

1346
01:19:36,690 --> 01:19:39,390
Unknown: is disrupting the
supply chains and therefore

1347
01:19:39,390 --> 01:19:42,780
slowing our progress in the
fight against all other diseases

1348
01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:47,010
including aids. Both the UN's
and the Global Fund have

1349
01:19:47,010 --> 01:19:50,340
released projection showing that
these disruptions could prevent

1350
01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:53,790
hundreds of 1000s of people from
getting the treatments they

1351
01:19:53,790 --> 01:19:58,410
need. And that's just in Sub
Saharan Africa. So we have our

1352
01:19:58,410 --> 01:20:02,310
work cut out for us. But I
remain optimistic, I remain

1353
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:08,550
optimistic that we will defeat
COVID-19. And we will continue

1354
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:13,530
to make strides against AIDS and
other health crises. I believe

1355
01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:19,140
that for several reasons. First
is science. In the global race

1356
01:20:19,170 --> 01:20:23,520
to detect, treat, and vaccinate
against COVID-19, researchers

1357
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:28,500
are making great advances,
faster, better diagnostic tools

1358
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:32,460
are being developed to help
identify those infected, also,

1359
01:20:32,490 --> 01:20:37,890
we're making great progress on
vaccines, these platforms by

1360
01:20:37,890 --> 01:20:42,090
won't just be useful against
this particular virus, they will

1361
01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:46,500
also help us specifically for
HIV. Okay,

1362
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,190
Adam Curry: I think that they're
setting up a whole nother round

1363
01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:54,330
of HIV vaccine. And they'd look
at this a whole new money push,

1364
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:57,960
which of course we haven't, you
know, this has been 30 years,

1365
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,420
there's been no HIV AIDS
vaccine.

1366
01:21:00,630 --> 01:21:03,570
John C. Dvorak: No, they are not
easy to do. And there's a number

1367
01:21:03,570 --> 01:21:06,540
of reasons this goes takes us
right back to the very beginning

1368
01:21:06,540 --> 01:21:12,690
of this whole ridiculous fiasco,
where they were the Nobel Prize

1369
01:21:12,690 --> 01:21:17,610
winning physician in France
looked at the coding and says

1370
01:21:17,610 --> 01:21:21,960
this is was an attempt to make
an HIV vaccine. Yes, there you

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01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,600
go via the COVID structure,
platform, the COVID platform, it

1372
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,070
was a Chimaera, holy

1373
01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:32,730
Adam Curry: crap, this is it.
They're going to say we just we

1374
01:21:32,730 --> 01:21:36,990
have the vaccine, it doesn't fix
COVID. But we've cured aids.

1375
01:21:39,330 --> 01:21:42,360
Well, both

1376
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:47,670
John C. Dvorak: very good one at
the moment. Oh, gosh,

1377
01:21:48,599 --> 01:21:51,389
Adam Curry: wow, you're right,
I'm so happy you remember that?

1378
01:21:51,899 --> 01:21:55,859
Whatever that good memory.
That's exactly it. Now what now

1379
01:21:55,889 --> 01:22:00,479
we get punished with all this
data glut, that you have to

1380
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,839
really concentrate and go back
to this right? This had all the

1381
01:22:03,839 --> 01:22:07,889
HIV penetration bits, or the
spiky proteins or whatever it

1382
01:22:07,889 --> 01:22:08,309
was,

1383
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,430
John C. Dvorak: the idea was to
put in HIV was to take a COVID

1384
01:22:11,850 --> 01:22:16,200
structure, which is the spice,
penetrate and then put an HIV,

1385
01:22:16,890 --> 01:22:20,610
some HIV dead HIV in there and
get it into the system and make

1386
01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:24,120
it a kind of a vehicle for as a
kind of a roundabout vaccine.

1387
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:29,340
These are all experimental
ideas. That they're going to try

1388
01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:32,970
to pull off against a bunch of
dummies like your friend, who is

1389
01:22:32,970 --> 01:22:37,860
going to be more than willing to
stand in line and get a shot of

1390
01:22:37,860 --> 01:22:42,420
this COVID vaccine, even though
again, I asked the question what

1391
01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:48,810
will is COVID CAUV. You know,
SARS cov to even be in existence

1392
01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:52,170
as such, unless they reintroduce
it, which I don't think they

1393
01:22:52,170 --> 01:22:55,170
will because I think that was
I'm still sticking to the story

1394
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:59,550
that the Chinese destroyed all
the original versions. So they

1395
01:22:59,550 --> 01:23:04,530
can't reintroduce the early
deadly version that got loose,

1396
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,140
Adam Curry: right? That was the
L the L strain or whatever it

1397
01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:10,860
was, we did ever stray. It was
the original, let's say OG the

1398
01:23:10,860 --> 01:23:12,300
OG Corona Og,

1399
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,300
John C. Dvorak: the OG Corona.
And that kills everybody starts

1400
01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:19,140
to deteriorate back into a cold
virus, which is pretty much what

1401
01:23:19,140 --> 01:23:21,780
it is. Now, if you look at these
death charges, nobody knows they

1402
01:23:21,780 --> 01:23:25,020
probably have it in there, but
they're not dying like they used

1403
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:25,260
to.

1404
01:23:26,130 --> 01:23:29,280
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me tie
it all together now. So we have

1405
01:23:29,790 --> 01:23:33,540
the whole aids team makes sense,
because they're justifying all

1406
01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:36,780
the money and future funds,
because we have this platform.

1407
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:39,240
And by the way, the platform is
great. I mean, we know how to do

1408
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,030
this, but I won't even play the
rest of the clip. But gates

1409
01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:45,300
continues to say we got to make
sure we roll it out across the

1410
01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:48,420
platform to Africa and South
America. So they're setting all

1411
01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:53,640
of that up in a neat testbed, in
the meantime, we need to get

1412
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,610
really get everybody on board
because we have the strong anti

1413
01:23:56,610 --> 01:24:01,890
Vax issue. And let's just start
with the Catholic Church. I just

1414
01:24:01,890 --> 01:24:10,110
learned that our friend, NIH
Director, Dr. Collins is on the

1415
01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:17,340
on the permanent member lifetime
board. There's only 80 People

1416
01:24:17,340 --> 01:24:22,050
Pontifical Academy of Sciences,
which is pretty much the Vatican

1417
01:24:22,050 --> 01:24:22,950
Think Tank.

1418
01:24:23,459 --> 01:24:26,279
John C. Dvorak: I thought that
it was an evangelical Christian.

1419
01:24:27,810 --> 01:24:31,230
Adam Curry: Yeah, he is. Well,
that's what he claims he is. So

1420
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,300
he's a Catholic. Well, he's on
the Pontifical Academy. Yeah,

1421
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:41,100
that's what he claims to
Catholic. Yes. That's what he

1422
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:42,480
John C. Dvorak: claims that
would be that would be

1423
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:46,830
technically a charismatic, as
opposed to an evangelical but if

1424
01:24:46,830 --> 01:24:49,170
he calls himself an evangelist,
something up with this guy.

1425
01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:51,510
Well, it's a lot of stuff that
doesn't make any sense, which I

1426
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:54,630
said last time. And you've
pointed out when he didn't say,

1427
01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:56,310
you know, God bless America. And
I

1428
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:59,130
Adam Curry: think this is part
of this. It's about destroying

1429
01:24:59,130 --> 01:25:02,730
the Catholic Church. Churches
going on everywhere. These guys

1430
01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:06,180
are in in cahoots with the
Vatican, the Vatican and it's

1431
01:25:06,180 --> 01:25:10,230
not the pope that is running the
show. It's it's the secretary of

1432
01:25:10,290 --> 01:25:14,370
or the head of Secretary of
State for the, for the Vatican,

1433
01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:20,070
this other guy, so many of these
guys. So he's kind of running

1434
01:25:20,070 --> 01:25:24,510
the show. And then we've got,
you know, China, China paying $2

1435
01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:29,310
billion a year to the Vatican
for something. And then this

1436
01:25:29,310 --> 01:25:33,630
current pope essentially blesses
the some of these phoney

1437
01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:38,280
Cardinals in China who have this
kind of Catholic Catholicism,

1438
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,610
but everything else is
underground. We've got churches

1439
01:25:41,610 --> 01:25:44,250
burning everywhere. I mean, is
something going on here?

1440
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:48,750
Something something's weird, and
yeah, Collins I think is a big

1441
01:25:48,750 --> 01:25:55,920
part of it. That's Dan Brown.
Brown with Dan Brown, big

1442
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,820
John C. Dvorak: player in the
pro choice pro life battle. So

1443
01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:00,600
they got it. Yeah.

1444
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:04,350
Adam Curry: That's I think
there's a whole bunch of

1445
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,380
John C. Dvorak: the you have to
go and show you emphasise all

1446
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:11,310
the negative things about that.
But like just listen to this,

1447
01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:12,630
listen to this trade destroy it

1448
01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:15,750
Adam Curry: was in the
Associated Press. This is the

1449
01:26:15,780 --> 01:26:18,750
one of those shaming articles
about who got who got government

1450
01:26:18,750 --> 01:26:20,160
money for the PPP.

1451
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:24,060
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yes,
exactly. Mimi was ranting about

1452
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:24,510
this.

1453
01:26:24,990 --> 01:26:27,990
Adam Curry: So this one, there's
a number of articles this one is

1454
01:26:28,740 --> 01:26:32,580
and I think this is a misnomer.
The US Roman Catholic Church,

1455
01:26:32,580 --> 01:26:36,810
which I don't think exists. The
Roman Catholic Church was no US

1456
01:26:36,810 --> 01:26:40,080
Roman Catholic Church use a
special and unprecedented

1457
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,890
exemption from federal rules to
amass at least 1.4 billion and

1458
01:26:43,890 --> 01:26:47,880
taxpayer backed Coronavirus aid
with many millions going to

1459
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,240
diocese that have paid huge
settlements or sought bankruptcy

1460
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,930
protection because of clergy
sexual abuse cover ups. That's

1461
01:26:54,930 --> 01:27:00,780
the opening of the article. Boom
shakalaka Yeah, I'd

1462
01:27:00,780 --> 01:27:01,710
John C. Dvorak: say hit peace.

1463
01:27:02,309 --> 01:27:05,519
Adam Curry: It's a great fees.
Fantastic.

1464
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,120
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Yes, thumbs
up. I think you spotted

1465
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,030
something. I didn't notice it
myself. Because when Mimi's

1466
01:27:12,030 --> 01:27:15,450
ranting about this, I said well,
it's it really got it's not a

1467
01:27:15,450 --> 01:27:18,630
deconstruction thing. I don't
know really show but now what

1468
01:27:18,630 --> 01:27:20,910
you mentioned is for fits right
into the show

1469
01:27:20,969 --> 01:27:23,429
Adam Curry: and what was burned
in Washington DC during the

1470
01:27:23,429 --> 01:27:27,329
Black Lives Matters. Black Lives
Matter. Church, right? Little

1471
01:27:27,329 --> 01:27:31,889
church, California mission
founded by your boy, Hoon pero

1472
01:27:31,889 --> 01:27:33,179
Sara, what's his name?

1473
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,570
John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if this was a UniPro Sara

1474
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,330
church but the acid recent
mission down in Southern

1475
01:27:39,330 --> 01:27:44,040
California burned Yeah. It was
under renovation just like the

1476
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:49,050
notre DOM like another example.
Probably a better example.

1477
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:53,220
Mysteriously catches on fire and
is taken out of service.

1478
01:27:54,330 --> 01:27:56,400
Adam Curry: And meanwhile the
guys running the show with the

1479
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,160
vaccines ready to stick the
needle in your arm are all in on

1480
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:03,930
it. But the Chinese good time
for a podcast like this one.

1481
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:06,540
John C. Dvorak: Well, no
kidding.

1482
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,650
Adam Curry: If I didn't have you
to talk to you, I'd be going

1483
01:28:10,650 --> 01:28:14,010
nuts right now with this with
this thinking. I think I need

1484
01:28:14,010 --> 01:28:17,580
some money. I need to see a pill
or something. This is not good.

1485
01:28:18,150 --> 01:28:19,380
I need some Vaseline.

1486
01:28:20,820 --> 01:28:23,460
John C. Dvorak: My goodness.
That's good stuff. How

1487
01:28:23,460 --> 01:28:26,280
Adam Curry: about this? We'll
take a breather right here I'll

1488
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,430
thank you for your courage and
say in the morning to you, the

1489
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:33,810
man who put the see and so many
things we've discussed John C to

1490
01:28:33,810 --> 01:28:34,830
vortrag

1491
01:28:35,340 --> 01:28:37,230
John C. Dvorak: willing to mourn
to us random curry in the

1492
01:28:37,230 --> 01:28:39,990
morning all ships he was up in
the air substitute water dame's

1493
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:41,160
the nights out there. Yeah.
Well,

1494
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,470
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the troll room, no agenda

1495
01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:48,870
stream.com is where they are
known to hang out. And let me

1496
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:53,820
see I can do a little quick
troll count. Even though I'm on

1497
01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:57,390
location. Wow. 1738. So that's
pretty good. I mean, it's not

1498
01:28:57,390 --> 01:29:02,100
our typical, we've been doing a
little higher on Sunday. We've

1499
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:05,040
been doing close to 1900 but
they're there and they're

1500
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,080
trolling and they're doing a
great job of it. We love them.

1501
01:29:08,670 --> 01:29:12,600
Kind of I guess, and you can
join them at no agenda.

1502
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,810
stream.com When you're in there,
ask for an invite. You can ask

1503
01:29:15,810 --> 01:29:21,240
Doug for an invite to an origin
social.com which is our

1504
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:26,250
federated social network with
very high signal to noise ratio.

1505
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:29,910
And let's say in the morning to
the artist who brought us the

1506
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:35,040
artwork for episode 1258 We
titled that appropriately the

1507
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,780
dummy placebo this was Dan
McCall and oh yeah, he had the

1508
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:44,100
Cleveland unicorns football
helmet, which I think we were

1509
01:29:44,130 --> 01:29:45,270
both kind of good with.

1510
01:29:46,260 --> 01:29:48,750
John C. Dvorak: Ya know what
happened was we were having

1511
01:29:48,750 --> 01:29:53,310
trouble find the right art. And
the this is the last piece that

1512
01:29:53,310 --> 01:30:00,000
came in. And he it was a nice it
was other people who tried to do

1513
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,750
do this because it caught on the
idea of a of a team named a

1514
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:07,380
unicorns but he actually put it
on a helmet may look like like a

1515
01:30:07,380 --> 01:30:08,340
real team

1516
01:30:08,430 --> 01:30:08,850
Unknown: yeah

1517
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,090
John C. Dvorak: yeah every time
I look at it say is maybe there

1518
01:30:12,090 --> 01:30:12,870
is a team that

1519
01:30:13,230 --> 01:30:17,070
Adam Curry: a lot of people a
lot of people responded to me

1520
01:30:17,070 --> 01:30:19,740
John C. Dvorak: is their team
and me I'm almost convinced it

1521
01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:24,270
could be so I was good it was
good very nice piece and it was

1522
01:30:24,270 --> 01:30:27,450
very well done and he had a
little subtleties like the

1523
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:30,120
little thing that there was
strap right over part of the

1524
01:30:30,150 --> 01:30:34,560
logo covering that was extremely
professional.

1525
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:37,620
Adam Curry: Although I still
maintain for some reason. I feel

1526
01:30:37,620 --> 01:30:39,930
like the helmet should have been
facing to the right I don't know

1527
01:30:39,930 --> 01:30:43,860
why I don't know why you great
grapes nor some reason I don't

1528
01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:51,450
know what it is some weird me.
Thank you. Dan Dan McCall. And

1529
01:30:51,450 --> 01:30:53,400
thank you to all the artists
because a lot of people are

1530
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,730
submitting a lot of people doing
some outstanding work. It's not

1531
01:30:56,730 --> 01:31:00,120
a judgement. We love you. We
have to pick something that will

1532
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,720
behove the show and also we had
the title we didn't want to we

1533
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,500
try not to have the title and
the artwork be the same which

1534
01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:11,040
would have been dummy placebo so
but this is part of how it

1535
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,460
works. It's our great value for
value network where you get out

1536
01:31:14,460 --> 01:31:17,130
of it what you put into it and a
lot of people are helping

1537
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,280
produce the show as well as our
financial producers bringing it

1538
01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:22,590
the executive producer and
Associate Executive producers

1539
01:31:22,590 --> 01:31:25,800
for 1259 We have a couple

1540
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:31,440
John C. Dvorak: yes we do. We
have to you and you say a couple

1541
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:34,950
we have two executive producers
is a little lower than we've

1542
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:38,940
been getting. Sir Paul the
trusted advisors are top guide

1543
01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:46,470
$334.30 $333.34 from doubt doubt
Texas is from Dallas Texas.

1544
01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:49,620
Greetings from Dallas Texas.
Donate in the spirit of my

1545
01:31:49,620 --> 01:31:55,560
grandpa passion naturally lnl
for write that book lnl me know

1546
01:31:55,560 --> 01:32:00,450
what that says oh no. Where's
his grandpa living in line Oh no

1547
01:32:00,450 --> 01:32:00,630
no

1548
01:32:00,630 --> 01:32:03,060
Adam Curry: no loving light here
love and light love and

1549
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:07,620
John C. Dvorak: love okay for
our LTVs Ricker receiving this

1550
01:32:07,620 --> 01:32:14,100
or see this come on jobs karma
for Abraham please de douche oh

1551
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:15,570
he needs a de douching list okay

1552
01:32:15,570 --> 01:32:18,750
Adam Curry: we can wow this is
he did this is like some kind of

1553
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:20,250
text shorthand

1554
01:32:21,930 --> 01:32:23,730
Unknown: you've been deed deuced

1555
01:32:25,410 --> 01:32:29,670
John C. Dvorak: nice needs a I
don't know what the SRS c dash

1556
01:32:29,670 --> 01:32:33,060
two is but jobs calm I can
decode it for Abraham Abraham

1557
01:32:33,060 --> 01:32:37,440
jobs cover for Abraham. And then
he Happy Birthday to Dame G

1558
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:42,660
money that mysterious sceptic.
And belated 33rd birthday to me,

1559
01:32:42,660 --> 01:32:45,000
Sir Paul. So he there should
actually be two birthdays on all

1560
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,230
this? I don't think so.

1561
01:32:49,050 --> 01:32:50,700
Adam Curry: What do you mean
that they're not both on the

1562
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:51,240
list?

1563
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:55,920
John C. Dvorak: That's what I'm
guessing. Okay, on a second to

1564
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:03,660
Dame G money. The Hysteria
sceptic. And it's 33rd for him.

1565
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,040
Sir Paul. Oh, who by the way
anyone has a 33rd birthday. It

1566
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:13,950
has to become an executive
producer. For a show. Yes.

1567
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:18,660
Adam Curry: Okay, so I'll do the
jobs karma then. I think that's

1568
01:33:18,660 --> 01:33:21,330
it. I can't I can't see anything
else that we that we missed.

1569
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:26,730
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.

1570
01:33:33,300 --> 01:33:35,910
John C. Dvorak: Onward with our
second Associate Executive

1571
01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:41,610
Producer, Jamie Stinson. $333 in
the morning, Jay here from Yama.

1572
01:33:41,940 --> 01:33:47,190
First off I need to de douching
okie dokie you've been deed

1573
01:33:47,190 --> 01:33:53,820
deuced. This donation is for our
new human resource. Odin.

1574
01:33:54,510 --> 01:34:00,810
Really? Which will be starting
here in Kiama in November hope

1575
01:34:00,810 --> 01:34:05,970
he signs the signup form with
the right tick box. He's an

1576
01:34:05,970 --> 01:34:08,460
Australian his kids named Odin.
Okay,

1577
01:34:08,490 --> 01:34:10,080
Adam Curry: is that weird? Is
there something I should be

1578
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:10,620
aware of?

1579
01:34:10,799 --> 01:34:13,019
John C. Dvorak: Odin is just not
a name that I would think you

1580
01:34:13,019 --> 01:34:15,449
know, is this like a god Greek
god or something or even

1581
01:34:15,659 --> 01:34:19,139
somebody in the chat who should
briefed me on Odin? Otherwise

1582
01:34:19,139 --> 01:34:22,409
we're in trouble so shout out to
my booty boogie boogie smokin

1583
01:34:22,409 --> 01:34:26,699
hot real human resource
incubator Anna cute. Who lost

1584
01:34:26,699 --> 01:34:30,719
her father last week? Sorry. I
wish Odin got to know him. And

1585
01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:35,069
please know all is going to be
okay trust me. As it is her

1586
01:34:35,069 --> 01:34:38,129
birthday today please add her to
the shout out birthday list.

1587
01:34:38,129 --> 01:34:42,719
Happy Birthday babe. Can I get a
some new human resource karma

1588
01:34:43,019 --> 01:34:47,609
and some jobs karma jingles Al
Sharpton medley China's asshole.

1589
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:51,719
And thanks, Obama. Yeah, Jay
from Kiama New South Wales

1590
01:34:51,719 --> 01:34:55,709
Australia. Any no agenda? People
down here want to meet up let's

1591
01:34:55,709 --> 01:35:06,089
do it. Hey ESP I see teach
Thanks Obama jobs

1592
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,240
Unknown: jobs jobs and jobs
That's

1593
01:35:12,450 --> 01:35:17,400
John C. Dvorak: karma Emily
shade is up and she sent a note

1594
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,200
in which I do have

1595
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,230
Adam Curry: she's in Portland
Portland Oregon.

1596
01:35:23,250 --> 01:35:27,750
John C. Dvorak: She says hi John
donation though to accompany my

1597
01:35:27,750 --> 01:35:31,590
Pay Pal initiated so and so for
264 75 and she's an Associate

1598
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:36,660
Executive Producer for 264 75
She's requesting first time home

1599
01:35:36,660 --> 01:35:40,080
buying karma okay and itself
birthday shout out okay. She

1600
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,990
needs to be added to the
birthday list apparently she

1601
01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:48,180
Emily shade first July 14. Love
the show. So that was simple and

1602
01:35:48,180 --> 01:35:51,060
easy. So we just need to give
her a house buying karma.

1603
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:57,030
Adam Curry: Okay, and I'll put
her on the listener. You've got

1604
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:04,800
karma. Emily, Emily shade. Emily
shade. How old? How old was she?

1605
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,650
John C. Dvorak: Did she didn't
give her age but it's July 14.

1606
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:08,010
Okay.

1607
01:36:08,670 --> 01:36:11,490
Adam Curry: Oh, all right. So
we're well in time for that.

1608
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:12,930
Okay. Groovy. All right.

1609
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:18,480
John C. Dvorak: Can I go? Look
up? Lady butters. Oh, no,

1610
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:19,710
Adam Curry: you don't say oh,

1611
01:36:20,190 --> 01:36:22,140
John C. Dvorak: no, I got de
Fuca showed a foolish shoulders

1612
01:36:22,170 --> 01:36:22,950
that jumped or

1613
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:25,920
Adam Curry: was ready to do my
squirrelmail Okay, fingers Zota

1614
01:36:26,580 --> 01:36:29,910
John C. Dvorak: 234 56 and
Gladstone, Missouri, which is

1615
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:34,080
naughty stuck. I know. Oh my
god, he Arabia. Yeah. He didn't

1616
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,680
send a note of any importance he
just said still study says Dear

1617
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:42,390
Jake and Elwood still stuck.
Send karma. Thanks for your

1618
01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:45,030
courage. So he needs a karma to
get out of it. Yeah, I

1619
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:47,490
Adam Curry: actually emailed him
this morning when when when this

1620
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,430
when the note came in. Like I'm
going back and forth. See if

1621
01:36:50,430 --> 01:36:53,340
there's anything we can do for
him. I think it sucks he's still

1622
01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:55,860
stuck. He hasn't seen as his
wife and daughter for what now?

1623
01:36:55,860 --> 01:36:57,060
Four or five months.

1624
01:36:58,260 --> 01:37:00,690
John C. Dvorak: Mommy Mommy
who's that strange man.

1625
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:04,320
Unknown: You've got

1626
01:37:06,450 --> 01:37:11,370
Adam Curry: worse worst thing
ever. Divorce rack. Caps our

1627
01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:16,530
worst thing ever. Oh, man, their
military family. So I'm sure

1628
01:37:16,530 --> 01:37:19,950
they're fine. The military
family they they can do this but

1629
01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:24,780
it's tough for anybody. She's
alright. Do you have the lady

1630
01:37:24,780 --> 01:37:26,880
butters now? Do you have her? I
do have

1631
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,980
John C. Dvorak: like, tears
right. You're just what you're

1632
01:37:29,370 --> 01:37:35,730
berating me for being cold.
Cold. I am going to read lady

1633
01:37:35,730 --> 01:37:42,060
butters know she came in from
Tiverton Rhode Island to 3288

1634
01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:47,400
and she writes I would like to
propose a toast to certain

1635
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,610
knives of the provenance
plantation for his 32nd birthday

1636
01:37:50,610 --> 01:37:54,240
on July 30. A Nether Of course
this is a random number. So we

1637
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,550
get all these will have a
birthday on him that you don't

1638
01:37:56,550 --> 01:38:00,690
have to hand do while you're
stuck there in Florida. So this

1639
01:38:00,690 --> 01:38:06,900
is CERN knives of the Providence
Plantation. 30 becomes 32 on

1640
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:11,970
July 13. Everyone in the no
agenda tribe please grab

1641
01:38:11,970 --> 01:38:15,540
whatever you're drinking and
raise it with us. Cheers to Your

1642
01:38:15,540 --> 01:38:21,810
next year on the road to magic
number 33. We'll be celebrating

1643
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,900
with our weekly husband and wife
no agenda Sunday brunch after

1644
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:29,190
hosting the southern New England
suit. sumar Pool Party meet up

1645
01:38:29,190 --> 01:38:32,820
at our home the previous day.
More to come on that for the

1646
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:35,910
next Thursday show, though. I'm
sure there'll be more photos and

1647
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:40,440
so on so on. In the meantime,
please make sure my hellishly

1648
01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:44,610
handsome husband is on the
birthday list that we just put

1649
01:38:44,610 --> 01:38:46,800
Adam Curry: in Could you could
you I'm sorry to interrupt.

1650
01:38:48,030 --> 01:38:51,060
Could you actually give me that
again? Sir knives? Yes. Yeah,

1651
01:38:51,180 --> 01:38:53,940
John C. Dvorak: sir. Knives of
the Providence Plantations.

1652
01:38:54,150 --> 01:38:58,110
Adam Curry: Yes, they're all
plantations. Yes. And he turned

1653
01:38:58,170 --> 01:39:05,850
John C. Dvorak: and he'll be 32
on the 13th Okay, so now he says

1654
01:39:05,850 --> 01:39:09,660
she says she says he says she
says with a couple more quick

1655
01:39:09,660 --> 01:39:13,770
requests if you don't mind. We
go once jobs Carmen now to

1656
01:39:13,770 --> 01:39:18,840
toughy got that Chinese asshole.
Hey, I like it. That's true. If

1657
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,780
you could follow that good
Chinese asshole. That's true.

1658
01:39:22,950 --> 01:39:25,260
Adam Curry: I think we can do
that. She also

1659
01:39:25,260 --> 01:39:27,420
John C. Dvorak: says a snippet
of the Russia UK and then it

1660
01:39:27,630 --> 01:39:31,020
cuts off. Oh, so I don't know
what she's heard. No cuts off.

1661
01:39:31,050 --> 01:39:33,960
Okay. And it was just cuts. But
then she says thank you for your

1662
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,600
courage lady butter. So they're
Narragansett Bay, and it was

1663
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,040
jobs karma. Jobs karma. China
and that's true.

1664
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:44,670
Adam Curry: You said it like a
game show host for some reason

1665
01:39:44,670 --> 01:39:47,610
that comes across really well. I
like that as home.

1666
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:56,520
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for job. Karma.

1667
01:39:56,610 --> 01:39:57,960
Adam Curry: Not quite sure why
it works.

1668
01:39:58,139 --> 01:40:00,239
John C. Dvorak: Does does I
don't know what I say. Add I

1669
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:01,169
mean listen

1670
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,120
Adam Curry: No it's just a pled
the pleasant way you said it

1671
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,000
well yes it's jobs karma just
sounded yes jobs

1672
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,860
John C. Dvorak: karma for you
jobs karma

1673
01:40:07,890 --> 01:40:08,340
Adam Curry: yes

1674
01:40:08,370 --> 01:40:12,960
John C. Dvorak: Colin a new free
in Fort Lee New Jersey 24

1675
01:40:13,170 --> 01:40:17,580
Adam Curry: By the way for a lot
Fort Lee Fort Lee New Jersey

1676
01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:19,350
surely that's got to be racist.

1677
01:40:20,910 --> 01:40:23,190
John C. Dvorak: Oh yeah, it's
got that has to change you can't

1678
01:40:23,190 --> 01:40:25,860
be from forego yeah this is I
want to know if you're gonna do

1679
01:40:25,860 --> 01:40:28,050
about Washington State Yeah,

1680
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,170
Adam Curry: gotta go make it
part of Canada

1681
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,050
John C. Dvorak: ITM Jensen thank
you for your courage first off

1682
01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:43,530
the D douching. Is an order
bowing do shit didn't boys.

1683
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:49,110
You've been D deuced they're
following immediately by a

1684
01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:55,080
douchebag call out from my
coworker Dave I had David and

1685
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:59,160
mouth at the beginning of all
this Wuhan flu shenanigans. Some

1686
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,360
jingles please for Adam to cue
I'd like to Huntsman don't trust

1687
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:08,790
China. Coincidence? I think not.
Whole load Hold on.

1688
01:41:09,870 --> 01:41:12,960
Adam Curry: Hold on Hold on.
Hold on. This is not humanly

1689
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:18,150
possible. Okay the is too much
All right. The asshole fall

1690
01:41:18,150 --> 01:41:21,330
after Okay. Huntsman so after
that what?

1691
01:41:22,590 --> 01:41:27,720
John C. Dvorak: Coincidence? I
think not. Is is too many trick

1692
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,820
keep down to four minute maximum
plan.

1693
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:33,240
Adam Curry: Let's do this just
just to horrify me and yet

1694
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,230
coincidence.

1695
01:41:34,650 --> 01:41:39,990
John C. Dvorak: Coincidence? I
think not. Pull load. You might

1696
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:41,340
die. Oh, come

1697
01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:44,550
Adam Curry: on. Come on. This is
not okay. This is taking away

1698
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:46,110
from valuable show time.

1699
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,690
John C. Dvorak: And a Pelosi
jobs calm right with a goat

1700
01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:49,260
twist. You'd

1701
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:52,470
Adam Curry: kind could kind of
be ashamed of yourself for doing

1702
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:53,550
that. But yeah, I

1703
01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:57,150
John C. Dvorak: agree. All right
now 23 and sucking on the teat

1704
01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:00,030
of the unemployment system, the
general theme of the tri state

1705
01:42:00,030 --> 01:42:03,600
area seems to be swollen to make
the list and no holds barred

1706
01:42:03,630 --> 01:42:09,510
virtue signalling in these 1984
s times I passed these days by

1707
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:13,260
pushing back on the M five M
narratives and hitting mofos in

1708
01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:19,230
the mouth. Any chance I can get?
I need you to be red pill these

1709
01:42:19,230 --> 01:42:22,530
days is a blessing. Thank you
both again. And thank you all.

1710
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:27,120
All the producers out there PS.
Professor Ted quotes are working

1711
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:34,350
wonders on the Gen Z's drop acid
not bombs and an order your six

1712
01:42:34,350 --> 01:42:39,060
pack of bow Fang radios off
Amazon why the getting's good.

1713
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:43,410
Who knows? What's the star
leading to November? Collins?

1714
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:47,940
New free before? November? Yeah,
okay. Sorry,

1715
01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:53,370
Adam Curry: something. Professor
Ted is trending hard, and

1716
01:42:53,370 --> 01:42:56,610
trendy, spending hard. And of
course, how long I've been

1717
01:42:56,610 --> 01:43:01,410
talking about Professor Ted for
10 years longer. And so

1718
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:04,110
particularly the over
socialised, which I've been

1719
01:43:04,110 --> 01:43:08,460
mentioning quite a bit the
social justice warriors it's all

1720
01:43:08,460 --> 01:43:12,300
in there he wrote it What now
4045 years ago, and people are

1721
01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:16,080
now discovering this like oh my
goodness, get That's right. They

1722
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,080
had a whole series on Netflix
not too long ago, which didn't

1723
01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:22,980
discuss any of this. But now
people are figuring it out. So

1724
01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:26,580
this is good news. Little tiny
algea geocaching don't trust

1725
01:43:26,580 --> 01:43:29,250
China, China is as HoH
coincidence,

1726
01:43:29,610 --> 01:43:33,300
Unknown: I think not. I'm gonna
give you the whole load today

1727
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:33,390
and

1728
01:43:33,390 --> 01:43:44,550
you might not jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's right,

1729
01:43:45,390 --> 01:43:47,910
John C. Dvorak: almost perfect.
You did make one follow up. But

1730
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:49,350
it was a good sequence

1731
01:43:49,379 --> 01:43:51,329
Adam Curry: but I had the wrong
coincidence.

1732
01:43:52,530 --> 01:43:54,240
John C. Dvorak: You had the
wrong incidents. Yeah.

1733
01:43:54,270 --> 01:43:56,280
Adam Curry: Is it the wrong
coincidence? I think not.

1734
01:43:58,140 --> 01:44:00,750
John C. Dvorak: No, you hit No
no, that was fine. I didn't that

1735
01:44:00,750 --> 01:44:03,450
didn't bother. You didn't have
the Trump Pelosi

1736
01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:06,330
Adam Curry: Oh Trump. Oh, I have
to do that over them because

1737
01:44:06,450 --> 01:44:09,360
jobs jobs that's not the right
one.

1738
01:44:10,170 --> 01:44:16,080
Unknown: jobs jobs jobs, jobs,
jobs and jobs. Let's vote for

1739
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:25,650
Adam Curry: producers please
please producers. Remember your

1740
01:44:25,650 --> 01:44:28,770
privilege when requesting
sequences of jingles and writing

1741
01:44:28,770 --> 01:44:31,950
long note no took a path
remember your privilege,

1742
01:44:32,430 --> 01:44:37,650
John C. Dvorak: sir Joby Juan
weekapaug in 224 23 Four had a

1743
01:44:37,650 --> 01:44:40,440
great time in the Northeast Ohio
meet up man we had some great

1744
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:44,550
producers please provide lady
Cara and I much needed karma

1745
01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:51,930
jingles. Good to be here, bro.
Nice job You idiot. From Tucker.

1746
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,660
And that's it, sir. Sir John
Joby one of weekapaug I

1747
01:44:57,660 --> 01:44:59,430
Adam Curry: don't know about
nice job at it. I

1748
01:44:59,430 --> 01:45:01,890
John C. Dvorak: don't know Know
anything about this? I don't

1749
01:45:01,890 --> 01:45:02,490
know it either.

1750
01:45:02,700 --> 01:45:05,460
Adam Curry: So what is it? So
broth and what is the other one

1751
01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:09,030
does broth broth? Yeah broth
which is Fauci broth. Yes. And

1752
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:09,960
then and then what?

1753
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:12,780
John C. Dvorak: Didn't Nice job
You idiot. I

1754
01:45:12,780 --> 01:45:16,860
Adam Curry: don't have that. Oh
wait, maybe that was an ISO.

1755
01:45:17,250 --> 01:45:24,360
Idiot. Ah, sorry for some for
some reason that part of show

1756
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:26,940
prep didn't work out today. Here
we go. Good to be here bro

1757
01:45:26,940 --> 01:45:34,140
thanks for the lecture idiot
you've got there you go.

1758
01:45:34,890 --> 01:45:37,830
John C. Dvorak: Thanks for the
lecture idiot. That's actually a

1759
01:45:37,860 --> 01:45:41,100
nice clip to show well I
actually have to end the shows.

1760
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:43,770
I want to test out now it does
it does. Yeah,

1761
01:45:44,130 --> 01:45:46,650
Adam Curry: might as well we're
so off the rails you might as

1762
01:45:46,650 --> 01:45:47,220
well do Okay,

1763
01:45:47,220 --> 01:45:49,530
John C. Dvorak: let's go I got
two of them. They're split from

1764
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:52,860
I'm taking clips off the
internet and there's they're

1765
01:45:52,860 --> 01:45:57,900
playing these commercials on one
plate a spam commercial. Okay,

1766
01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:00,720
hold on a second. I have to spam
ISOs

1767
01:46:01,050 --> 01:46:04,650
Adam Curry: Spam was in the
product spam. Yeah. Really?

1768
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,530
Actual commercial. Why and where
did you get those on YouTube?

1769
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:11,280
Yeah. Wow. Okay, are you sure
you're not being paid by the

1770
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,620
spam corporation to introduce
this now? Are you?

1771
01:46:14,070 --> 01:46:16,290
John C. Dvorak: Well, you won't
even know but just play spam one

1772
01:46:16,380 --> 01:46:23,910
spam. Don't knock it till you
fried it I love the guy's voice.

1773
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:26,310
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's a great
voice. Yeah, don't mock it. Go

1774
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:28,980
away. You fried it. Yeah, big
bottom again. Here's

1775
01:46:28,980 --> 01:46:32,520
John C. Dvorak: the second spam
miso sizzle fork. And

1776
01:46:34,140 --> 01:46:36,780
Adam Curry: now I didn't like
the audio that one and this I

1777
01:46:36,780 --> 01:46:40,500
think it's a little too long.
Don't knock it till you fried it

1778
01:46:40,530 --> 01:46:43,830
versus thanks for the lecture.
Idiot tomorrow, man. It's clear.

1779
01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:48,870
It's clear. Clear who wins? Most
good. Yeah, they are.

1780
01:46:49,559 --> 01:46:54,989
John C. Dvorak: All right onward
with Sean Negron in Clark, New

1781
01:46:54,989 --> 01:47:01,139
Jersey, New Jersey ice today to
you from Jersey 222 dot 22 will

1782
01:47:01,139 --> 01:47:02,129
definitely stick since

1783
01:47:02,219 --> 01:47:04,379
Adam Curry: Jersey has had a
really hard time the people are

1784
01:47:04,379 --> 01:47:06,869
cracking under pressure they're
turning to the show and that's

1785
01:47:06,869 --> 01:47:10,349
giving them solace and they want
to know give us their their

1786
01:47:10,349 --> 01:47:11,039
thoughts.

1787
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:15,300
John C. Dvorak: I'm all in been
listening since Adams appearance

1788
01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:18,150
on Rogen nice. I thought it was
time to donate I love the show.

1789
01:47:18,150 --> 01:47:21,600
Can you please send my lovely
wife some jobs karma? She's been

1790
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:26,280
having a heart go since the Rona
PS is John related to the

1791
01:47:26,430 --> 01:47:33,750
divorce IQ and his unusable
keyboard. I've never heard put

1792
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:39,720
it that way. No. But are you
supposed to be there some

1793
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:40,590
relation? Yeah.

1794
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:42,000
Adam Curry: And how about the
composer?

1795
01:47:42,570 --> 01:47:44,550
John C. Dvorak: Supposedly
everyone is related to that guy.

1796
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:47,910
He was just out. He was that
guy. Well, you know who you're

1797
01:47:47,940 --> 01:47:51,270
also related with, like a
musician. The same as that. You

1798
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:54,240
know, like, imagine you know,
Mick Jagger was the Mick Jagger

1799
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,420
content of these musicians.
They're all they do is they go

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01:47:57,450 --> 01:47:58,410
they chase women.

1801
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:03,180
Adam Curry: Hey, listen, I don't
know why you said that. But you

1802
01:48:03,210 --> 01:48:06,210
are also related and he's very
proud of it to comics for

1803
01:48:06,210 --> 01:48:06,810
Blogger.

1804
01:48:07,950 --> 01:48:11,520
John C. Dvorak: Three years in
medicine.

1805
01:48:12,630 --> 01:48:17,940
Unknown: That's what you said
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for

1806
01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:18,540
jobs

1807
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,580
John C. Dvorak: okay, I know
David Metis and Pikeville North

1808
01:48:26,580 --> 01:48:33,270
Carolina to 1233. But but but
like to split this donation

1809
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:35,610
between me and my daughter you
do you can do the accounting and

1810
01:48:35,610 --> 01:48:42,480
it's fine. Lila. Lila Lila meet
us. Meet us meet us. Can I get a

1811
01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:46,500
plug for our podcast the meet us
pod and audio fiction slash

1812
01:48:46,530 --> 01:48:51,390
audio drama podcast and my 10
year old daughter liat. Lila

1813
01:48:51,390 --> 01:48:57,750
show which is in Unicode is
something fun to share her

1814
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:58,830
hardware. I can't read it.

1815
01:48:58,860 --> 01:49:01,020
Adam Curry: I think it's fun
fact font. No, no, it's Fun Fact

1816
01:49:01,020 --> 01:49:03,210
Friday with Leila and David.

1817
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,760
John C. Dvorak: Oh, okay. She
wrote and recorded a theme song

1818
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,580
does the audio editing is what
she's a 10 year old and does the

1819
01:49:11,580 --> 01:49:14,640
show notes. Oh, I'm very proud
of her and wanted to share her

1820
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,040
hard work. I wanted to ask her
if she wanted to run ads. She

1821
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:21,570
said no. Because if we take ads
and we can't tell all of our

1822
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:26,820
facts nice. No agenda listener
her whole life.

1823
01:49:27,060 --> 01:49:31,410
Adam Curry: Hey, man, go take
that pre K for sa screw. Yeah,

1824
01:49:31,740 --> 01:49:34,410
John C. Dvorak: yeah, yeah.
Methodology out here. We

1825
01:49:34,410 --> 01:49:35,160
Unknown: know how to do it.

1826
01:49:35,670 --> 01:49:37,890
John C. Dvorak: I also want to
say that this community and it

1827
01:49:37,890 --> 01:49:43,320
involves jingles and you DSA for
pre K for essay you don't even

1828
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,290
know what a jingle is. I would
also like to say that the

1829
01:49:46,290 --> 01:49:49,110
community that surrounds the no
agenda is amazing. I have

1830
01:49:49,110 --> 01:49:51,630
reached out to a few producers
over the years that have never

1831
01:49:51,630 --> 01:49:54,750
met with anything other than a
friendly and helpful attitude.

1832
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:59,940
Especially James Jennifer. Jed
de Jake. Same Jennifer Wow.

1833
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,900
Okay, James identifer have
animated no agenda, hoping to

1834
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:07,560
get a meetup going here in
Goldsboro, North Carolina soon

1835
01:50:07,740 --> 01:50:13,950
douching please, you got it.
You've been Eve deuced and

1836
01:50:13,950 --> 01:50:17,850
jingle request of detective
Dookie. You all played it for

1837
01:50:18,510 --> 01:50:24,960
Lee when I donated on her first
birthday so it's her. Okay, and

1838
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:28,200
thank you but get given bad
karma of course detectives

1839
01:50:31,890 --> 01:50:42,480
police SBU special Cooper's unit
karma says dumb does good luck

1840
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:46,350
but does podcast yeah like
daddy's 10 year old doing my

1841
01:50:46,350 --> 01:50:49,080
guess she's got a future ahead
of her she get get that

1842
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:55,860
together. Sir Ben Knight is
Black Knight of Brooklyn. In San

1843
01:50:55,860 --> 01:50:58,380
Francisco. Was there a birthday
in that previous one somewhere?

1844
01:50:58,530 --> 01:51:00,570
Adam Curry: I don't believe so.
No, I

1845
01:51:00,570 --> 01:51:03,090
John C. Dvorak: don't think so.
Sir Ben Knight already mentioned

1846
01:51:03,090 --> 01:51:06,330
our first black night of
Brooklyn San Francisco

1847
01:51:06,330 --> 01:51:10,620
California even though he's
black that a Brooklyn two or 352

1848
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:15,000
Sadly with Catalina let's
finally move our QuickTime 732

1849
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,900
bit he has to move beyond
QuickTime 732 bit it's been a

1850
01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:21,990
while since I've messed with it.
Audacity here's a three second

1851
01:51:22,020 --> 01:51:22,560
ISO.

1852
01:51:24,090 --> 01:51:26,100
Adam Curry: Did I was I was I
supposed to get something?

1853
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:28,500
John C. Dvorak: I'm guessing
Yes. I

1854
01:51:28,500 --> 01:51:29,820
Adam Curry: don't think I've
seen this.

1855
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,540
John C. Dvorak: So at least I
can do as a baron until I pay

1856
01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:36,240
off the last season. We guess we
can do it later. Yeah. And then

1857
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,880
it's back to donating to the
best podcast in the universe.

1858
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:43,440
wait, never mind. I just read
John's newsletter. Okay, Jay ar

1859
01:51:43,470 --> 01:51:47,700
e wave is over. I just donated
33% of a check. I got back from

1860
01:51:47,700 --> 01:51:53,040
the San Francisco Property Tax
Board to under $3.52. I used to

1861
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,100
be the Black Knight of Brooklyn.
But now I have to check in with

1862
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:58,770
Dave Foley to see if I get a
better salary as he sent me

1863
01:51:58,770 --> 01:52:02,040
notice that you can easily be
the Baron of San Francisco.

1864
01:52:03,420 --> 01:52:06,660
Adam Curry: Welcome. Really have
at it. Well,

1865
01:52:06,660 --> 01:52:09,840
John C. Dvorak: he says Baron of
San Francisco or Baron of

1866
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:14,520
portray arrow Hill no. No, it'd
be the Baron of portrait you

1867
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,010
want to be the Baroness San
Francisco nobody has requested

1868
01:52:17,010 --> 01:52:21,660
that that I know. I'm glad to
take some sounds gayborhood

1869
01:52:21,690 --> 01:52:25,200
track that stuff man.
Definitely. I know Phil Yeah.

1870
01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:30,300
You're still obliged to deal
with the Duke I know phil knight

1871
01:52:30,330 --> 01:52:34,320
Sir Peter Boyle also a donator
to mo fax and the guy who hit me

1872
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,670
in the mouth may be in
contention well you got it. I

1873
01:52:38,670 --> 01:52:40,650
think I'm higher up in peerage
even though it's been

1874
01:52:40,650 --> 01:52:45,510
fortunately he's going on about
this longtime says he met you in

1875
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:49,590
Hoboken and I remember years ago
I

1876
01:52:49,590 --> 01:52:51,570
Adam Curry: remember that of
course I don't I don't have your

1877
01:52:51,570 --> 01:52:54,810
ISO. You'll resend it to me.
Sorry. Probably with the travel

1878
01:52:54,810 --> 01:52:59,310
but I do have this for you. Come
on a dog that one up. So yes, I

1879
01:52:59,310 --> 01:53:02,430
remember it very well are hot
pockets tour. Thank you, sir.

1880
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,240
John C. Dvorak: All right. So
you're a Baron of San Francisco

1881
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,700
and I think you should be
updated. I'm not sure that's

1882
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:13,110
Adam Curry: an update on the
title later on in the show.

1883
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:16,920
John C. Dvorak: Or just by time
somebody we need a Baron of

1884
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,880
Oakland or a Walkman of the
Buckeye tuner one dollars and

1885
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:26,430
seven cents. Jingle cue up gonna
give you the whole load. OCO. Yo

1886
01:53:26,460 --> 01:53:29,880
Yoko Ono and stop the hammering
to to the head thank you for the

1887
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,600
six hours of sanity every second
Sunday of the week please add

1888
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:38,640
stereo goat karma for no agenda
nation. That's all Earl Walkman

1889
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:39,840
of MCI.

1890
01:53:40,590 --> 01:53:46,170
Adam Curry: Although hammering
is also the privilege has got to

1891
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,200
John C. Dvorak: stop the hammer
I can do it. No,

1892
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:53,640
Adam Curry: I got it all just it
was a whole load Yoko stop the

1893
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:54,390
hammering

1894
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:58,530
Unknown: after that smelt I
don't know.

1895
01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:02,910
Adam Curry: You need to read
along with me Okay, due to the

1896
01:54:02,910 --> 01:54:08,040
head to the head and then stereo
goat karma which is also a

1897
01:54:08,190 --> 01:54:13,920
special request you know, this
is not all at the ready, I'm

1898
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:29,640
going to give you the whole load
stop the hammering you've got

1899
01:54:36,180 --> 01:54:38,310
John C. Dvorak: I will say this
this a lot of these jingle

1900
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:44,220
requests tell a story and they
do their narratives. With a lot

1901
01:54:44,220 --> 01:54:46,110
of words in it. Most of the
stuff you get on mainstream

1902
01:54:46,110 --> 01:54:52,230
media so far. Eric Harvey on
sandy from San Diego California

1903
01:54:52,230 --> 01:54:57,630
tuner bucks as a closeted small
amygdala working as a researcher

1904
01:54:57,630 --> 01:55:00,930
in the enlarged amygdala the
world of academia Yeah, no

1905
01:55:00,930 --> 01:55:04,680
agenda has been crucial to my
sanity, especially over the last

1906
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:08,280
few months. I've often noticed
that many of my colleagues get

1907
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:11,460
frustrated when I don't
immediately share the same

1908
01:55:11,460 --> 01:55:17,790
levels of fear and hysteria over
recent world events. And nod

1909
01:55:17,790 --> 01:55:22,080
your head a lot. Oh, yeah, I
could use some jobs. Karma is my

1910
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:26,100
NIH funded postdoc fellowship is
ending soon. And I've yet to be

1911
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:30,480
offered any of that sweet, sweet
Chinese bribe money. How hard

1912
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,600
could finding a job during a
global pandemic looming

1913
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,070
recession be?

1914
01:55:35,519 --> 01:55:43,229
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs? That's karma.

1915
01:55:46,710 --> 01:55:49,380
John C. Dvorak: And this final
donation was the donation that

1916
01:55:49,380 --> 01:55:53,850
we discussed in the last show
and you mailed a check to me

1917
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,500
because she mailed a check to
you.

1918
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,220
Adam Curry: Oh, Victoria
Peterson. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

1919
01:55:59,220 --> 01:55:59,610
Yes. Yes.

1920
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,010
John C. Dvorak: from Antioch,
Illinois. We already did read

1921
01:56:02,010 --> 01:56:03,630
her note last show. Yes, we did.

1922
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:05,490
Adam Curry: And so then she'll
be on the list today.

1923
01:56:05,490 --> 01:56:06,990
appropriately. Thank you very
much.

1924
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,350
John C. Dvorak: Yes. And that
concludes it. That's our exit in

1925
01:56:10,380 --> 01:56:14,280
line. Yeah, that's right to
executive producers. And 110

1926
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:15,240
associate executives

1927
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,740
Adam Curry: with lots of things,
lots of things to communicate.

1928
01:56:20,190 --> 01:56:22,590
But it was certainly a good
distraction from I don't know

1929
01:56:22,590 --> 01:56:25,920
the world coming to an end. I
feel much better after that. It

1930
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,130
good breather. Thank you so much
for being our executive and

1931
01:56:29,130 --> 01:56:32,550
Associate Executive producers.
Now these credits are real. But

1932
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:35,940
anyone who sees that
understands, okay, what you are

1933
01:56:35,940 --> 01:56:38,850
and what you've done. And just
like Hollywood, you know, well,

1934
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,990
I mean, the whole credits come
early. We don't have any of the

1935
01:56:42,990 --> 01:56:45,090
hookers but neither is
Hollywood. Now. You can't you

1936
01:56:45,090 --> 01:56:45,810
can't get hookers

1937
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:47,370
John C. Dvorak: as hookers
anymore.

1938
01:56:47,370 --> 01:56:51,000
Adam Curry: No, no there's
nothing left for those guys.

1939
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,580
Were it this is this is you're
looking at the future of show

1940
01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:54,150
business.

1941
01:56:55,020 --> 01:56:59,010
John C. Dvorak: You have to say
Harvey Weinstein's timing was

1942
01:56:59,010 --> 01:56:59,490
impeccable.

1943
01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:05,310
Adam Curry: I agree with you,
Mortimer. Such a good job he

1944
01:57:05,310 --> 01:57:09,210
did. Please consider supporting
us for our next show. On

1945
01:57:09,210 --> 01:57:12,090
Thursday. I'll be back in
Austin, God willing, I presume

1946
01:57:12,090 --> 01:57:17,430
we'll be able to just fly back
weird. And you can find out more

1947
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:20,130
information on how to support us
and how to become an executive

1948
01:57:20,130 --> 01:57:23,490
or Associate Executive producer
or producer or just a supporter

1949
01:57:23,730 --> 01:57:30,870
of the show. Go to forex.org/and
A Well, I cannot wait to see you

1950
01:57:30,870 --> 01:57:35,520
on we'll learn next on the show.
Our formula is this. We go out

1951
01:57:36,180 --> 01:57:37,320
for yet people in the mouth.

1952
01:57:52,170 --> 01:57:54,810
John C. Dvorak: The last show on
the last show I teased the

1953
01:57:54,810 --> 01:57:56,730
school board dustup

1954
01:57:56,850 --> 01:58:01,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, this was the
speaking of white privilege and

1955
01:58:01,500 --> 01:58:04,860
fragility and all of that this
was a this was a

1956
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:07,950
John C. Dvorak: so I have a few
clips, just kind of snippets of

1957
01:58:07,950 --> 01:58:11,520
the kinds of things that were
going on at this meeting.

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Including I'm going to start
with sorry, I mean, I could go

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01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:21,780
with I get four clips, and any
one of them will work. I do have

1960
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one that has to be the last
which is the short little video

1961
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when at the end, but you'll get
it you get the point. You start

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01:58:27,300 --> 01:58:30,120
hearing a coat diaper. I'm
getting codewords out of this.

1963
01:58:30,300 --> 01:58:34,290
This is all about this book,
that apparently everyone has to

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now read Are you sure you're not
doing you're not doing what

1965
01:58:37,950 --> 01:58:38,400
you're supposed to

1966
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:40,710
Adam Curry: do? This is the
white fragility book but set

1967
01:58:40,710 --> 01:58:43,020
this up who are these? Who are
these

1968
01:58:43,050 --> 01:58:47,310
John C. Dvorak: these people are
on a school is that it's not the

1969
01:58:47,310 --> 01:58:51,930
school board is advisory council
that that puts together the some

1970
01:58:51,930 --> 01:58:53,190
curriculum and it's

1971
01:58:53,190 --> 01:58:56,130
Adam Curry: a paid gig is are
they just volunteers basically

1972
01:58:56,130 --> 01:58:56,310
are a

1973
01:58:56,910 --> 01:58:59,100
John C. Dvorak: volunteer
organisation I found out later

1974
01:58:59,130 --> 01:59:02,640
okay, but it's good to has
elected to head person and

1975
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,460
they're all bickering with each
other constantly, apparently.

1976
01:59:05,850 --> 01:59:09,390
And there's you can clearly see
the lines between social justice

1977
01:59:09,390 --> 01:59:13,620
warriors and normal people.
Let's play start with the DSU

1978
01:59:13,650 --> 01:59:14,730
doing the work.

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01:59:16,620 --> 01:59:21,060
Unknown: done my own work, and
some of you have done. I'd like

1980
01:59:21,060 --> 01:59:27,060
to speak. I have a lot to say,
but I'll keep this short. This

1981
01:59:27,060 --> 01:59:29,010
just illustrates to me

1982
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:33,180
John C. Dvorak: that clip. Let's
first bring that clip in later.

1983
01:59:33,180 --> 01:59:37,470
I want to get some people
yelling. That's the end. Do you

1984
01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:43,350
console bickering apologise oh
wait, wait. Okay, let's start

1985
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:45,330
with this one. Okay, they start
yelling at each other. There's a

1986
01:59:45,330 --> 01:59:50,760
Latino the vice president comes
in and he's really are this guy,

1987
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:52,860
by the way walked out on the
meeting, even though it's a Zoom

1988
01:59:52,860 --> 02:00:00,000
meeting, disguise, a Latin X,
VP. And he goes after me he's

1989
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,040
really mad because they're been
yelling at each other. Let's go

1990
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,860
with this edu meeting Latino VP
goes after social justice

1991
02:00:04,860 --> 02:00:05,250
warrior.

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02:00:05,370 --> 02:00:09,450
Unknown: Okay, nonsense that
doesn't make a child learner

1993
02:00:09,810 --> 02:00:14,070
that doesn't teach a poor kid.
Anything. Okay, so let's proceed

1994
02:00:14,070 --> 02:00:17,970
before you start making
accusations about me about my

1995
02:00:17,970 --> 02:00:22,110
one vote, you want to get to
know me, you ought to sit down

1996
02:00:22,110 --> 02:00:25,830
and have lunch with me. You
don't know very many Latino

1997
02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:29,670
people, and you don't have lunch
with perhaps you don't know very

1998
02:00:29,670 --> 02:00:33,600
many poor blacks to understand.
So before you make these

1999
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:37,650
conclusions and draw these, the
these assumptions,

2000
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,290
Adam Curry: what assumptions had
she made about him?

2001
02:00:41,220 --> 02:00:43,620
John C. Dvorak: This part of it
was not on the original clips

2002
02:00:43,620 --> 02:00:49,500
that she demeaned him in an in
an act in an accidental way. And

2003
02:00:49,500 --> 02:00:51,690
she was just going off on
everybody that we're talking

2004
02:00:51,690 --> 02:00:54,810
about this one woman who's going
to come in after he berates her.

2005
02:00:55,170 --> 02:00:59,550
And you'd have to imagine her
she's kind of a sizable young

2006
02:00:59,550 --> 02:01:04,140
woman with a big breasts. And
she's and she's one of these

2007
02:01:04,140 --> 02:01:08,250
types that she has a Lavell ear
that she's holding in front of

2008
02:01:08,250 --> 02:01:12,780
her mouth. My face Enos so wrong
idiots with Lavell ears they

2009
02:01:12,780 --> 02:01:14,850
think is a standard mic or
something. I

2010
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:17,970
Adam Curry: think it's actually
I think it's actually one of

2011
02:01:17,970 --> 02:01:22,200
those phone like for for a
mobile phone, an older version

2012
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:25,950
of a mobile phone, we have kind
of a control unit and the

2013
02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:29,460
microphone, that's part of the
wire. And she's plugged that

2014
02:01:29,460 --> 02:01:32,550
into her computer, apparently.
So she's yelling into his

2015
02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:36,360
holding that thing over to her
mouth, like, like an idiot.

2016
02:01:37,290 --> 02:01:40,140
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, okay,
finish, you want to get

2017
02:01:40,140 --> 02:01:42,990
Unknown: to know me. And you
know, I'd like to get to know

2018
02:01:42,990 --> 02:01:47,160
you. I'd like to get to my
machine. But for some reason, I

2019
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:51,870
don't deserve to say. And that's
all I have to say. And I agree.

2020
02:01:51,870 --> 02:01:55,980
And I support Maude Marone. And
I support what she's doing with

2021
02:01:55,980 --> 02:01:59,730
the nice of grant and the
integration effort. And I am

2022
02:01:59,730 --> 02:02:04,020
sure that we can get there if
you just let her work. And if

2023
02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:08,610
you in good faith, reach out to
her and to others that don't

2024
02:02:08,610 --> 02:02:14,070
happen to disagree with your
hollow and shallow diversity of

2025
02:02:14,070 --> 02:02:15,210
pronouncements.

2026
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:16,680
Thank you very much.

2027
02:02:17,070 --> 02:02:24,540
So actually, Eric, can I please
jump in. And I'd like to give I

2028
02:02:24,540 --> 02:02:27,660
want to say something because I
were weeded out by name multiple

2029
02:02:27,660 --> 02:02:36,060
times. Edward, I want to
apologise, you're gonna give me

2030
02:02:36,060 --> 02:02:42,060
a space to apologise. I want to
acknowledge that you're calling

2031
02:02:42,060 --> 02:02:47,550
out the one vote was an example
of white privilege. And it was

2032
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:51,450
an example of trying to silence
the legitimacy of your space on

2033
02:02:51,450 --> 02:02:57,210
this council. That was white
fragility. And I am apologising.

2034
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:02,040
Edward, I'm apologising, and you
don't have to accept my apology.

2035
02:03:02,550 --> 02:03:09,210
And I, and there's work everyone
has work to do. Do I have work

2036
02:03:09,210 --> 02:03:15,810
to do 40 plus years of white
supremacy I need to undo. That

2037
02:03:15,810 --> 02:03:19,590
was unfair of me to make that
point. And I don't want to

2038
02:03:19,590 --> 02:03:23,850
silence your voice and your
voice has merit. Edward. And I

2039
02:03:23,850 --> 02:03:28,860
did I did sit with you at the
before we before this Council

2040
02:03:28,860 --> 02:03:33,480
started. And I would talk to you
again. And I'm sorry that and I

2041
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,810
acknowledged that my words hurt
you.

2042
02:03:37,590 --> 02:03:44,940
Adam Curry: So this is I think,
around page 26 of the industrial

2043
02:03:44,940 --> 02:03:47,730
society and its future also
known as the Unabomber

2044
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,990
manifesto, where he speaks of
this over socialisation, where

2045
02:03:51,990 --> 02:03:55,470
everybody is going to offend
everybody in some way all the

2046
02:03:55,470 --> 02:04:00,720
time. And this is the result.
Add to that the technological

2047
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:04,740
component of a zoom call, which
just screws up life call

2048
02:04:04,740 --> 02:04:07,800
together into your future.

2049
02:04:09,090 --> 02:04:12,690
John C. Dvorak: Play console
bickering, apologise, more more

2050
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,000
Adam Curry: cheese, this is so
much better than the clips I

2051
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,640
would have made. So I'm glad you
did that. Because I didn't see

2052
02:04:17,700 --> 02:04:20,010
any of this part of it. This is
dynamite.

2053
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,920
Unknown: One of the things we
should all learn to do. And I'm

2054
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:27,120
learning to do this. When
somebody tells you that you did

2055
02:04:27,120 --> 02:04:33,390
something wrong. The first thing
to do is reflect on that. And

2056
02:04:33,390 --> 02:04:38,610
then apologise. Nuts. Okay, even
if you don't agree, you

2057
02:04:38,610 --> 02:04:43,350
apologise. That's what Robin
did. Oh, that is what you do.

2058
02:04:43,350 --> 02:04:47,190
When somebody says you did
something wrong. And you hurt

2059
02:04:47,190 --> 02:04:51,720
them. You're supposed to say I'm
sorry. And that's how that

2060
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:57,390
works. Tom. Some people said you
hurt them. You'd may not agree

2061
02:04:57,390 --> 02:05:04,260
but the least you can do is I'm
sorry I hurt you. That is what

2062
02:05:04,260 --> 02:05:06,450
grownups do. Oh, so

2063
02:05:07,290 --> 02:05:10,620
called Tom not grown up now. Is
that what you're saying?

2064
02:05:11,759 --> 02:05:14,489
Well, you can be the judge of
that. What do grownups do when

2065
02:05:14,489 --> 02:05:17,609
somebody says, You hurt me and
you don't apologise?

2066
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,660
Adam Curry: Wow. And these
people are indirectly involved

2067
02:05:21,660 --> 02:05:23,790
with the education of your
children.

2068
02:05:25,230 --> 02:05:27,300
John C. Dvorak: The Joker this
by the way, this guy Tom, who

2069
02:05:27,300 --> 02:05:30,000
she's targeting, who I don't
have any clips from him because

2070
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:36,660
he's too reasonable. Finally, he
makes this assertion. So Tom

2071
02:05:36,660 --> 02:05:39,720
comes on and says, Okay, well,
then I felt hurt that you

2072
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:43,230
condemned me there. I want your
apology. And no one would

2073
02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:47,850
apologise to him. The apology is
only go one way. Oh,

2074
02:05:47,850 --> 02:05:50,100
Adam Curry: I see. So no, my

2075
02:05:50,910 --> 02:05:52,860
John C. Dvorak: no would
apologise to Tom because Tom is

2076
02:05:52,860 --> 02:05:55,920
a dick apparently. So they
didn't like that. So that's the

2077
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,190
bickering apologies. And then we
had this kind of shaved head

2078
02:05:59,190 --> 02:06:05,040
Asian woman. And this is doing
the work. Which is, which is the

2079
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,820
key word, I want people to
realise that the the code word

2080
02:06:08,820 --> 02:06:13,320
is doing the work. Good means
reading that stupid book, by the

2081
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:13,560
way,

2082
02:06:14,130 --> 02:06:18,510
Adam Curry: I can incorporate
this into my sentence. Excuse

2083
02:06:18,510 --> 02:06:24,270
me? Are you? Have you not done
the work? Are you? Are you? Are

2084
02:06:24,270 --> 02:06:26,220
you using your privilege?

2085
02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:29,520
John C. Dvorak: And I'm gonna
get to that is that the parallel

2086
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,880
of that this is? Oh, after the
two clips, we

2087
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,010
Adam Curry: are we are learning
good stuff here. People

2088
02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:40,410
Unknown: have done my own work.
And some of you have done. I'd

2089
02:06:40,410 --> 02:06:45,510
like to speak. I have a lot to
say, but I'll keep it short.

2090
02:06:46,290 --> 02:06:52,680
This just illustrates to me the
need for anti racism training.

2091
02:06:53,490 --> 02:06:57,120
Because some of you definitely
including myself, actually, I

2092
02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:02,640
would say all of us don't have
the language to really talk

2093
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:07,260
about this in a way that's
constructive and productive and

2094
02:07:07,260 --> 02:07:14,640
growth oriented. And I have done
my own work. And some of you

2095
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:18,900
have done work with the CDC.
Marisol hosted courageous

2096
02:07:18,900 --> 02:07:23,820
conversation, and some of you
attended. Clearly, we need more

2097
02:07:23,820 --> 02:07:29,880
of it. And that was really the
intent of my letter to you mod.

2098
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:32,280
I don't see you doing the work.

2099
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:38,610
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. So
just homeless second, I don't

2100
02:07:38,610 --> 02:07:41,910
care what just you can't say
anything that was without a

2101
02:07:41,910 --> 02:07:48,960
doubt that was it. I cannot
believe like hands sadly, I can

2102
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:53,430
believe this. But this has to
stop. The tears will come

2103
02:07:53,430 --> 02:08:00,450
people. This will not end well.
And it's I so this is

2104
02:08:00,450 --> 02:08:04,380
destructive. This is destroying
people. And what's it what good.

2105
02:08:04,380 --> 02:08:05,580
Is it doing anybody?

2106
02:08:07,890 --> 02:08:09,660
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's
making some time it's making

2107
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:13,170
money and it's making one last
clip. All right, and it's a four

2108
02:08:13,170 --> 02:08:15,900
second clip which I just want to
show you get it this is another

2109
02:08:15,900 --> 02:08:18,660
person. These are all different
people. And this is the last one

2110
02:08:18,660 --> 02:08:21,600
that I recorded which is that
just to summarise, she's got it

2111
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:22,110
nailed

2112
02:08:22,290 --> 02:08:26,370
Unknown: bridge divides to learn
what I need to learn to do the

2113
02:08:26,370 --> 02:08:26,790
work.

2114
02:08:28,050 --> 02:08:33,000
Adam Curry: Do the work. Okay.
It hit me. Where have I heard

2115
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:38,520
this phrase before? You've got
to do the work doing the work.

2116
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,150
It's about the work. Are you
ready? Are you ready for it? I'm

2117
02:08:42,150 --> 02:08:46,830
ready. I live with an actress
for several years. The entire

2118
02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:52,200
acting community is about doing
the work. You've got to do the

2119
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:56,880
work to be able to get to that
place to to do this role doing

2120
02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:01,410
the work. It's taken directly
from Strasburg Strasburg, who's

2121
02:09:01,410 --> 02:09:05,700
the lead Lee Lee Strasberg is
not the Yeah, the act is

2122
02:09:05,700 --> 02:09:09,000
detracting Yeah, the training
coach. Yeah, the method actors,

2123
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:12,810
this is method acting. They are
teaching the method acting

2124
02:09:13,470 --> 02:09:15,690
John C. Dvorak: while doing the
work is really actually

2125
02:09:15,690 --> 02:09:18,570
referring to what they really
mean when they say the book,

2126
02:09:19,620 --> 02:09:24,450
read stupid book. Don't read the
book, you're not doing the work

2127
02:09:24,450 --> 02:09:28,620
doing the work. This is the
closest thing I've seen. And I

2128
02:09:28,620 --> 02:09:32,340
would I would attribute it to
this book and this woman who is

2129
02:09:32,370 --> 02:09:35,970
going around giving her seminars
This is very reminiscent of the

2130
02:09:35,970 --> 02:09:40,620
seminars you would get in 70s
and it was that sprang out of

2131
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:45,630
Earhart oh yes activity yes
training Yes.

2132
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:48,480
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah, that's
what it was.

2133
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,840
John C. Dvorak: These are all
asked as a rewrite of how best

2134
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:54,840
worked on his were more
targeted, but it's the same kind

2135
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:57,930
of thing they sit you in a room
they brainwash is a brainwashing

2136
02:09:57,930 --> 02:10:00,450
session. Very well done. I've
gone through a couple Love them.

2137
02:10:00,660 --> 02:10:02,730
When I was at the air pollution
district, they made us go

2138
02:10:02,730 --> 02:10:06,510
through one it was some
variation. But I, it was very,

2139
02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:09,750
it was a, they're great. And I
can see how people get caught up

2140
02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:11,490
in and next thing you know
you're going broke, you had no

2141
02:10:11,490 --> 02:10:14,400
more money it's all going to
ask. And that's there's good do

2142
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,160
you haven't got that angle down
yet. But they're they're getting

2143
02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:20,640
there because you can never
finish. That's the problem. When

2144
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:22,740
you get stuck in this in this
one of these, you got to keep

2145
02:10:22,740 --> 02:10:27,030
going to seminars, you got to
take more courses. And the key

2146
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:31,230
word back then I used to use it
all the time. Because I we had

2147
02:10:31,230 --> 02:10:34,830
when I was at info where we had
an SD nut ball working, there

2148
02:10:34,830 --> 02:10:37,950
was one of the writers, and I
kind of you know, he talked

2149
02:10:37,950 --> 02:10:40,320
about it, and he just kind of
like, well, why are you getting

2150
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:44,670
out of this? You know, we all
most of us thought it was nuts.

2151
02:10:44,850 --> 02:10:49,890
And I thought it was nuts. And
but the key word that you could

2152
02:10:49,890 --> 02:10:53,220
use on people to to make them
think that you are part of the

2153
02:10:53,220 --> 02:10:59,640
cult is have you had the
training? Oh, you could say,

2154
02:10:59,670 --> 02:11:04,560
Adam Curry: oh, man, that is you
said is yes. I've done the work.

2155
02:11:04,740 --> 02:11:09,090
I've have you done the training?
And was it not in the series,

2156
02:11:09,090 --> 02:11:13,260
the Americans that that guy got
wrapped up and in essence as

2157
02:11:13,260 --> 02:11:14,340
well on the show?

2158
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:16,620
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I never, you
know, people keep telling me

2159
02:11:16,620 --> 02:11:19,200
I've never watched the series,
but that's quite possible.

2160
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:21,570
Adam Curry: You know, it's about
Russian spies in the United

2161
02:11:21,570 --> 02:11:25,200
States in the 70s during that
era, during that era, would get

2162
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:29,670
wrapped up in it. Wow, this is
so good. So it's really kind of

2163
02:11:29,670 --> 02:11:32,940
a cycle. It's a fractal. And
it's holdovers must have many of

2164
02:11:32,940 --> 02:11:35,760
these people must be the same
people who were I bet you

2165
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:36,330
there's plenty

2166
02:11:36,330 --> 02:11:38,280
John C. Dvorak: of coming into
these. Oh, the old tricks, the

2167
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:41,730
old techniques, the training
method. Yeah, only now it's the

2168
02:11:41,730 --> 02:11:45,180
work. It's not the training,
right? The training. Have you

2169
02:11:45,180 --> 02:11:48,840
had to train and now it's the
work, done the work if you've

2170
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:51,810
done the work and done the work,
it's just a different code word.

2171
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,950
But that's the code. And you all
you have to say yes, I've done

2172
02:11:55,950 --> 02:11:58,800
the work and okay, you're he's
one of us. He's one of the pod

2173
02:11:58,800 --> 02:11:59,160
people.

2174
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:02,880
Adam Curry: Okay, let me see.
Let me try. Let me try. Excuse

2175
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:07,710
me. I've done the work. Are you
using your privilege to assume

2176
02:12:07,710 --> 02:12:13,710
that I'm white? Oh, wow. It's a
double whammy? Me. Yeah. Goes

2177
02:12:13,710 --> 02:12:17,730
all the way through. So I'm not
even claiming I'm not white.

2178
02:12:18,330 --> 02:12:21,840
John C. Dvorak: Ah, that's dead
is dynamite. I can't wait to try

2179
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,180
it. Yeah, tears are violence,
man.

2180
02:12:25,980 --> 02:12:29,490
Adam Curry: Crap. Oh, man, oh,
well, we're watching

2181
02:12:29,490 --> 02:12:32,760
John C. Dvorak: a rerun of this
bull crap from the 70s. With

2182
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:36,420
these people. Yeah. And it just
eaten, they're just rolling in

2183
02:12:36,420 --> 02:12:39,660
money. Like they just the tricks
always worked. It was all the

2184
02:12:39,660 --> 02:12:42,990
little spin offs of s and there
were a tonne of them. But John,

2185
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:46,200
Adam Curry: think about it. So
you have asked all these little

2186
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:48,900
tricks, and we should probably
consider highlighting them.

2187
02:12:49,170 --> 02:12:53,160
Because these are amplified
through the mechanisms of social

2188
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:59,130
media to amplified. So when you
do the work. You get lots of

2189
02:12:59,130 --> 02:13:02,730
likes, you know, then the
melody, the all the neurosis

2190
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:08,610
triggers go. And so this is
highly, highly addictive. Of

2191
02:13:08,610 --> 02:13:11,640
course, it never ends. Well, as
you can tell. And what's

2192
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:15,390
happening here is a complete
meltdown. And then what then

2193
02:13:15,390 --> 02:13:18,720
what happens then you have to
get on antidepressants or some

2194
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:20,610
other thing. It's very,

2195
02:13:21,060 --> 02:13:24,120
John C. Dvorak: very screwed up
if you're easily suckered. Yeah,

2196
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:25,170
but okay, but

2197
02:13:25,170 --> 02:13:27,780
Adam Curry: we've look, we're
old white group dudes, you know,

2198
02:13:27,780 --> 02:13:30,210
the most hated people in
America, because maybe some in

2199
02:13:30,210 --> 02:13:33,960
the world, maybe some senses
coming out. This is a generation

2200
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:38,610
that grew up with the likes, and
the follows and the and the

2201
02:13:38,610 --> 02:13:41,730
notifications and the bells and
whistles, you just tie it into

2202
02:13:41,730 --> 02:13:46,080
something very easily. Add some
authority figures

2203
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:49,680
John C. Dvorak: as a major, this
is some heavy duty thinking that

2204
02:13:49,680 --> 02:13:52,590
went into this. And it doesn't
surprise me that the woman who

2205
02:13:52,590 --> 02:13:57,360
wrote white fragility is a
psychologist or so she knows

2206
02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:01,770
about these tricks. This is
applied psychologists used to be

2207
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:06,270
just people didn't like to talk
about it. But the CIA knows

2208
02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:11,070
about it. The idea was a place
not psychology, it's applied

2209
02:14:11,070 --> 02:14:15,300
psychology, not in words, you
use psychology to to manipulate

2210
02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:18,420
people. And that's what's going
on here. They're bait people are

2211
02:14:18,420 --> 02:14:22,230
being manipulated by this. And
the and you see the results of

2212
02:14:22,230 --> 02:14:25,860
these meetings and they're
disruptive. And the people that

2213
02:14:25,860 --> 02:14:28,980
are being disrupted the normal
people like that Latina that the

2214
02:14:28,980 --> 02:14:32,460
only guy that met that guy
there, plus the Tom who is

2215
02:14:32,490 --> 02:14:36,090
berated and there's a there's
one other guy who was a

2216
02:14:36,090 --> 02:14:38,670
defender. There's two sides of
this thing you can see clearly

2217
02:14:38,670 --> 02:14:41,880
there was four people that were
social justice types, and for

2218
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:45,510
people that weren't, and they
people that weren't and I have

2219
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:49,500
to say this just across the
board. Don't know what's going

2220
02:14:49,500 --> 02:14:52,740
on. Now. Don't know what's
hitting them. Don't know how it

2221
02:14:52,740 --> 02:14:53,280
works.

2222
02:14:54,059 --> 02:14:56,939
Adam Curry: And really the only
way you can protect yourself is

2223
02:14:56,939 --> 02:14:58,619
by sticking close to us.

2224
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,420
John C. Dvorak: So your bid the
bid you just did. Yeah, that is

2225
02:15:03,420 --> 02:15:06,990
your armour? You can you can do
that, that that guy kind of did

2226
02:15:06,990 --> 02:15:09,720
that in that one clip which
says, Wait, are you accusing Tom

2227
02:15:09,720 --> 02:15:14,220
of being immature? Right, right.
Well, that was using that your

2228
02:15:14,220 --> 02:15:18,510
own language against it, but you
can't do it in this problem. i

2229
02:15:18,540 --> 02:15:22,260
The way I see it, doing that
kind of thing. And that's the

2230
02:15:22,290 --> 02:15:27,540
way I would do that my snide
sarcastic manner Diagon. Right,

2231
02:15:27,570 --> 02:15:32,400
right. It's not the way to do
it. Mine just do it that way.

2232
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:36,630
Because I don't care. Right. So
the way you describe, that's the

2233
02:15:36,630 --> 02:15:37,380
way to do it.

2234
02:15:37,410 --> 02:15:40,290
Adam Curry: I'm going to refine
it yet again. I've done the

2235
02:15:40,290 --> 02:15:46,920
work. And I am surprised that
you use your privilege to assume

2236
02:15:46,920 --> 02:15:48,000
that I am white.

2237
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:55,830
John C. Dvorak: Yes, that's even
better. That's a dynamite thing

2238
02:15:55,830 --> 02:16:00,660
to say to somebody. I think you
have to step away. only works if

2239
02:16:00,660 --> 02:16:04,170
this somebody's calling you
white racist. Yeah, there's

2240
02:16:04,170 --> 02:16:07,290
gotta be some other white
supremacy mechanism is just a

2241
02:16:07,290 --> 02:16:10,170
baseline. I think for a lot of
mechanisms that can be

2242
02:16:10,170 --> 02:16:14,250
developed, that would all put
people push people back, there

2243
02:16:14,250 --> 02:16:17,670
was some guy, I think it was the
Iowa Ohio State or some college

2244
02:16:17,670 --> 02:16:21,390
and this is a clip from like,
years ago, when these kids came

2245
02:16:21,390 --> 02:16:25,740
in demanding this and demanding
that and he used the idea of

2246
02:16:25,740 --> 02:16:28,950
you're, you're in my space, and
he's he's through all the same

2247
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:34,500
format stuff that now I feel I
feel unsafe, just told these

2248
02:16:34,500 --> 02:16:37,080
kids and they all got out and
left. They didn't follow up on

2249
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:40,260
it at all. They just feel safe.

2250
02:16:40,740 --> 02:16:43,710
Adam Curry: It's fantastic. It's
fantastic. And I think I think

2251
02:16:43,710 --> 02:16:48,330
we have an example of one of
these in this ongoing

2252
02:16:48,330 --> 02:16:52,800
Massachusetts boycott of
Starbucks, Whole Foods.

2253
02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:56,910
Remember, I remarked that they
had this really cute girl young

2254
02:16:56,910 --> 02:16:59,910
woman who was doing all the
talking about the Black Lives

2255
02:16:59,910 --> 02:17:02,940
Matter facemask which we're not
allowed. Yeah. So she's back in

2256
02:17:02,940 --> 02:17:07,350
the picture. Now this is 232
weeks later, maybe a week or 10

2257
02:17:07,350 --> 02:17:14,610
days later. And then she is I'm
thinking she is trained. And

2258
02:17:14,610 --> 02:17:16,590
it's too bad. We don't have
video because one of the few

2259
02:17:16,590 --> 02:17:20,220
times you'd really name is
Savannah, something or other.

2260
02:17:20,730 --> 02:17:23,250
Just listen to this training
that's going on and listen to

2261
02:17:23,250 --> 02:17:25,620
this report because she's good.
She's really good

2262
02:17:25,710 --> 02:17:29,220
Unknown: customers and employees
boycotting side by side outside

2263
02:17:29,220 --> 02:17:31,140
of the whole foods in Cambridge.

2264
02:17:31,259 --> 02:17:36,779
And we've been told to take our
masks off, or leave without pay.

2265
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:40,650
It's going on day 18. Some
employees walking off the job

2266
02:17:40,650 --> 02:17:44,040
daily after being reprimanded by
management for wearing black

2267
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:46,170
lives matter. facemasks at work,

2268
02:17:46,229 --> 02:17:50,459
I think they should let us
support any kind of movement

2269
02:17:50,579 --> 02:17:54,449
that is human rights, not this
one that's equal rights

2270
02:17:54,479 --> 02:17:58,559
until their bottom line is hurt.
And they see that people care. I

2271
02:17:58,559 --> 02:18:00,149
don't think they're going to
change.

2272
02:18:00,389 --> 02:18:03,869
Even the most morsel of shoppers
are changing their minds about

2273
02:18:03,869 --> 02:18:07,109
the company's standing in
solidarity with employees.

2274
02:18:07,350 --> 02:18:11,070
I feel completely uncomfortable
giving them any of my dollars.

2275
02:18:11,610 --> 02:18:13,320
So we've stopped shopping here.

2276
02:18:13,680 --> 02:18:17,640
A Whole Foods spokesperson told
CBS News their dress code policy

2277
02:18:17,640 --> 02:18:22,170
prohibits visible slogans,
messages or logos unrelated to

2278
02:18:22,170 --> 02:18:24,900
the company, but their employees
disagree.

2279
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:30,930
We're Gay Pride pens, we were.
We were Red Sox masks, we were

2280
02:18:30,930 --> 02:18:32,430
Bruins masks.

2281
02:18:33,479 --> 02:18:37,319
And I can't understand why
they're not changing this policy

2282
02:18:37,319 --> 02:18:38,489
because it's so small.

2283
02:18:40,770 --> 02:18:42,990
Even though some of these
employees are on the verge of

2284
02:18:42,990 --> 02:18:46,200
losing their jobs, they vow to
continue to walk out and to

2285
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:48,450
speak out until changes are
made.

2286
02:18:48,690 --> 02:18:52,290
Adam Curry: I think that's what
I think. And it's called a false

2287
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:58,560
equivalency. To us what are
those great new words to say

2288
02:18:58,590 --> 02:19:04,770
that representing sports pride
for your town or your state is

2289
02:19:04,800 --> 02:19:09,900
equal to Black Lives Matter?
political statement? In fact,

2290
02:19:09,900 --> 02:19:12,510
it's actually kind of kind of
demeaning. It's kind of

2291
02:19:12,510 --> 02:19:14,910
demeaning to smoke, just like
sports teams.

2292
02:19:16,050 --> 02:19:18,450
John C. Dvorak: This is one of
those situations. Unfortunately,

2293
02:19:18,450 --> 02:19:21,360
I've said this before it should
have happened at Evergreen where

2294
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:25,230
the kids should have been
expelled, because a kid going to

2295
02:19:25,320 --> 02:19:27,750
getting into college and the
getting expelled from college

2296
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:31,920
has to go home to their parents
and say I got expelled. Why did

2297
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:35,940
you get expelled? There's no
good reason. Dave should just

2298
02:19:35,940 --> 02:19:38,160
shut that whole foods down and
leave town.

2299
02:19:39,180 --> 02:19:42,330
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. It's
been 18 days almost three weeks.

2300
02:19:42,630 --> 02:19:45,000
John C. Dvorak: Now I shut it
down. That'd be a Bezos has got

2301
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:48,540
the money. He doesn't care. Shut
the Whole Foods down and leave

2302
02:19:48,540 --> 02:19:51,450
these people let them screw him
and and make sure that's on

2303
02:19:51,450 --> 02:19:53,160
their record. They can't manage
the

2304
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:56,250
Adam Curry: store. Oh, no. But
Bezos is in the same spot man.

2305
02:19:56,250 --> 02:19:59,340
He's running commercial showing
how good they are for the green

2306
02:19:59,340 --> 02:20:01,980
earth and how Good they are for
Black Lives Matters and $2

2307
02:20:01,980 --> 02:20:03,480
million. Here we

2308
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:06,270
John C. Dvorak: realise is that
Bezos even owns Whole Foods.

2309
02:20:07,620 --> 02:20:11,250
Adam Curry: At that column, this
is happening. Bezos is in

2310
02:20:11,250 --> 02:20:14,430
trouble too. He's in trouble.
He's outside his house, he's

2311
02:20:14,430 --> 02:20:15,570
John C. Dvorak: got to close
that store.

2312
02:20:17,010 --> 02:20:19,800
Adam Curry: Alright, luckily, we
have a complete disruption

2313
02:20:19,800 --> 02:20:23,640
coming on the scene. And this is
real. I have a lot of respect

2314
02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:26,700
for what he's doing. And I think
there's a method to the madness.

2315
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:29,070
He famous is Reuters, Lee Sang

2316
02:20:29,070 --> 02:20:32,460
Unknown: that no one man should
have all that power. But it

2317
02:20:32,460 --> 02:20:36,660
seems like rapper Kanye West
wants some of it, announcing on

2318
02:20:36,660 --> 02:20:40,530
Saturday that he would run for
president in 2020. Although it

2319
02:20:40,530 --> 02:20:44,190
was not immediately clear if
West was serious about vying for

2320
02:20:44,190 --> 02:20:48,150
the presidency, just four months
out from the election or if he

2321
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:51,750
had filed any official paperwork
to appear on state election

2322
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:56,040
ballots. He posted on Twitter,
we must now realise the promise

2323
02:20:56,040 --> 02:21:00,030
of America by trusting God
unifying our vision and building

2324
02:21:00,030 --> 02:21:03,660
our future. I am running for
President of the United States.

2325
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:07,200
The deadline to add independent
candidates to the ballot has not

2326
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:11,370
yet passed in many states West
and his wife, Kim Kardashian

2327
02:21:11,370 --> 02:21:14,580
West have visited Donald Trump
in the White House, and he

2328
02:21:14,580 --> 02:21:19,200
already has at least one high
profile supporter, Tesla CEO,

2329
02:21:19,230 --> 02:21:23,310
Elon Musk replying to the tweet,
you have my full support.

2330
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:26,490
Adam Curry: Okay. I want I want
to and I gotta tell you, I've

2331
02:21:26,490 --> 02:21:30,450
analysed this guy, I like him a
lot. I've learned I liked what

2332
02:21:30,450 --> 02:21:32,640
he did when he went into the
Oval Office and he was talking

2333
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:35,280
about the 14th amendment. And of
course, people call him nuts.

2334
02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:39,360
And already TMZ has launched the
headline, Kanye West and Mr.

2335
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:43,710
Bipolar episode family concerned
according to sources who are

2336
02:21:43,710 --> 02:21:45,690
familiar with their thinking,
you know, that kind of stuff.

2337
02:21:46,410 --> 02:21:49,920
This is a very interesting move.
If he's a billionaire, by the

2338
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:54,720
way he is, he is a very wealthy,
very successful guy. He comes

2339
02:21:54,720 --> 02:21:57,780
across as nuts in the media will
portray him as however they want

2340
02:21:57,780 --> 02:22:00,570
to portray him. The same they
did for Donald Trump. He has

2341
02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:03,810
maybe not a real certainly no
shot of becoming president for

2342
02:22:03,810 --> 02:22:08,670
2020 This is the wind up this is
a warm up for Kanye for 2024.

2343
02:22:08,940 --> 02:22:14,550
And he's a great choice. Because
and I vote for vermin supreme. I

2344
02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:18,300
like his platform. Everybody
gets a free pony. I love the

2345
02:22:18,300 --> 02:22:20,940
outfit and it keeps me
unaffiliated so we can do this

2346
02:22:20,940 --> 02:22:27,240
show with clear conscience and
heart. But Kanye Wow. So you

2347
02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:29,760
don't have to vote for Trump for
all the things you don't really

2348
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:33,750
like about Trump of being just a
douche sometimes and being

2349
02:22:33,750 --> 02:22:38,340
cringy. But you Kanye is not
going to beat Trump, but we'll

2350
02:22:38,340 --> 02:22:43,260
certainly take away a vote from
Biden. That is a very powerful

2351
02:22:43,260 --> 02:22:48,120
position and Kanye will have
some power. Maybe it's 1% of the

2352
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:52,800
black vote. A DDoS in this case,
who knows he'll have some peace

2353
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:57,090
because a lot of people take him
seriously as do I. And this is a

2354
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:00,840
this is a Ross Perot game
changer for this election. And

2355
02:23:00,990 --> 02:23:04,560
hello, he's a black man. He gets
no respect when running for

2356
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:07,800
president. He doesn't get any
series interviews really in

2357
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:12,630
Forbes, you know, like a kind of
literal reprint of him saying

2358
02:23:12,630 --> 02:23:16,260
wacky stuff the same way they do
about Trump. That's because they

2359
02:23:16,260 --> 02:23:18,810
take him seriously too. They
know he's a detriment to the

2360
02:23:18,810 --> 02:23:23,190
whole idea of hiding Joe in the
in the basement and having a

2361
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:27,300
unity consensus technocrat
government surrounding him

2362
02:23:27,300 --> 02:23:31,740
because that's what they're
setting up. It's gonna suck

2363
02:23:36,750 --> 02:23:39,600
John C. Dvorak: suck. It is
gonna suck

2364
02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:44,400
Adam Curry: if Joe Biden wins
with whatever this whole unity

2365
02:23:44,430 --> 02:23:46,950
that is have you seen I have a
clip here. Hold on a second.

2366
02:23:47,250 --> 02:23:51,960
This is the Biden Sanders unity
Task Force. And they rolled out

2367
02:23:51,960 --> 02:23:53,130
the platform

2368
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:56,490
Unknown: Task Force set up by
Joe Biden, the presumptive

2369
02:23:56,490 --> 02:23:59,430
Democratic nominee for president
and former presidential

2370
02:23:59,430 --> 02:24:02,160
contenders Senator Bernie
Sanders of Vermont, an

2371
02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:05,520
independent released a sweeping
set of platform recommendations

2372
02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:08,370
on Wednesday that lays out a
progressive roadmap for

2373
02:24:08,370 --> 02:24:11,460
Democrats, the one that falls
short of Sanders push for

2374
02:24:11,460 --> 02:24:15,240
radical change. The taskforce,
which was launched in May laid

2375
02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:18,420
out its platform recommendations
on a number of key issues

2376
02:24:18,450 --> 02:24:21,240
including climate change,
criminal justice reform,

2377
02:24:21,270 --> 02:24:25,500
immigration policies, health
care, education and the economy

2378
02:24:25,530 --> 02:24:27,540
in a 110 page document.

2379
02:24:27,750 --> 02:24:30,030
Adam Curry: If you're wondering
where all the toilet paper went,

2380
02:24:30,300 --> 02:24:35,250
apparently the hill used it to
have their voice over people

2381
02:24:35,250 --> 02:24:38,280
talk through when they're
recording their articles.

2382
02:24:39,420 --> 02:24:41,010
John C. Dvorak: Not as bad as
Biden.

2383
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,890
Adam Curry: Bring it bring it
bring me some Biden.

2384
02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:46,800
John C. Dvorak: Alright, so
Biden gave this speech in some

2385
02:24:46,800 --> 02:24:49,620
little town and this was

2386
02:24:49,620 --> 02:24:51,630
Adam Curry: a big deal. He came
out of the out of the basement

2387
02:24:51,630 --> 02:24:52,680
he was out all of a sudden.

2388
02:24:53,610 --> 02:24:57,000
John C. Dvorak: So nobody's
miked him right. They played the

2389
02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:02,280
they played live streams on
CNBC. He or one of them CNBC. I

2390
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:06,300
think, CNN, I know the
Washington Post, they won't play

2391
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:09,840
live Trump thing but Washington
Post even streamed it on

2392
02:25:09,840 --> 02:25:15,360
YouTube. And all and this is the
best I could get. And this is

2393
02:25:16,350 --> 02:25:20,190
not only that, but it started
raining during the oh gosh, that

2394
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:25,230
everyone had to come and sign or
violate mentioned that they're,

2395
02:25:25,260 --> 02:25:27,600
you know, they got these big
circles, you're supposed to

2396
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:31,290
stand in a circle, because every
circle is six feet apart. Right.

2397
02:25:31,410 --> 02:25:33,960
And so that looked idiotic. And
then of course when the thing

2398
02:25:33,960 --> 02:25:37,110
was over, they all mingled, I
mean, come on, make up your

2399
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:41,130
mind. So So it started raining
and Biden was freaked out by

2400
02:25:41,130 --> 02:25:43,050
this and so he thought it was
raining he didn't think it was

2401
02:25:43,050 --> 02:25:45,570
raining he kind of lost his
sense of things because the

2402
02:25:45,570 --> 02:25:48,810
whole speech was read from a
prompter and he walked off

2403
02:25:48,810 --> 02:25:53,250
immediately took no question
though he couldn't have doing

2404
02:25:53,250 --> 02:25:56,730
this he still screwed up of
course. So this is this is the

2405
02:25:56,730 --> 02:25:59,430
part where the stretch raining
and Biden kind of freaks down

2406
02:25:59,430 --> 02:26:11,820
yet ad libs, labour unions
that's great. guys out there.

2407
02:26:14,610 --> 02:26:24,690
You guys raise my gosh. This guy
out there.

2408
02:26:27,570 --> 02:26:32,820
Unknown: Determination.
Resilience is grit. strength to

2409
02:26:32,820 --> 02:26:37,080
get up no matter how many times
you get knocked down. Respect

2410
02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:42,720
for hard work. People do it.
These are the values I grew up

2411
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:43,500
with and all of you

2412
02:26:45,090 --> 02:26:49,110
John C. Dvorak: Wow, Mike Greene
was better miked.

2413
02:26:49,410 --> 02:26:51,780
Adam Curry: Yeah, and it kind of
reminded me let me see if I can

2414
02:26:51,780 --> 02:27:20,310
do this. Let me see if this will
work oh my gosh Joe walking in

2415
02:27:20,310 --> 02:27:23,820
the rain run nets I mean this is
beautiful. It's so it gives you

2416
02:27:23,820 --> 02:27:26,190
such a vision of a powerful new
leader.

2417
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:28,920
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the guy
and they this is unbelievable

2418
02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:36,150
that I got the one gaff This is
His Great Depression. Get listen

2419
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:36,570
to this.

2420
02:27:37,620 --> 02:27:38,910
Unknown: Oh my gosh, I can't
wait.

2421
02:27:39,780 --> 02:27:43,860
mobilisation, r&d procurement
investment in waves not seen

2422
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,330
since the Great Depression and
World War Two low

2423
02:27:49,980 --> 02:27:53,010
John C. Dvorak: not seen since
the Great Depression of World

2424
02:27:53,010 --> 02:27:56,250
War Two. Depression was that

2425
02:27:57,390 --> 02:28:00,240
Adam Curry: I gotta make sure he
was saying that this is a fact

2426
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:01,590
check need to fact check this

2427
02:28:02,130 --> 02:28:04,800
John C. Dvorak: mobilisation or
indeed procurement investment in

2428
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:09,660
ways not seen. since the Great
Depression and World War Two.

2429
02:28:11,100 --> 02:28:15,150
He set up he wanted to say or I
know this is on the prompter.

2430
02:28:15,150 --> 02:28:15,870
Yeah, right.

2431
02:28:17,310 --> 02:28:20,940
Adam Curry: Yeah, he misread it.
This is. So this is he can't

2432
02:28:20,940 --> 02:28:23,130
debate Trump, which is why
they're

2433
02:28:23,550 --> 02:28:25,770
John C. Dvorak: already getting
to get out of the debate you

2434
02:28:25,770 --> 02:28:26,340
watch.

2435
02:28:27,269 --> 02:28:29,339
Adam Curry: It's not gonna be
Yeah, this is gonna be voting by

2436
02:28:29,339 --> 02:28:32,189
mail. There's gonna be a diff
shoot. You know what? No, we're

2437
02:28:32,189 --> 02:28:36,659
gonna watch out some kind of
genius. Blockchain invention is

2438
02:28:36,659 --> 02:28:40,409
coming. And we're all going to
vote on the blockchain. While we

2439
02:28:40,409 --> 02:28:43,799
have our masks on making love to
our partners. Oh, I'm sorry.

2440
02:28:43,799 --> 02:28:46,949
That's not us. Because you and I
are out on the street white man.

2441
02:28:48,090 --> 02:28:51,690
John C. Dvorak: So show that
show up. I did get it find a

2442
02:28:51,690 --> 02:28:55,350
thing that Norah O'Donnell
interviewed some time ago is

2443
02:28:55,350 --> 02:29:00,570
about it. I'd say maybe a year
ago. Or, actually, it's just

2444
02:29:00,570 --> 02:29:04,710
before he was he got all his
votes needed to be the nominee.

2445
02:29:05,340 --> 02:29:07,830
And he was in the studio. And it
was actually pretty, it was

2446
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:12,810
pretty. It was it was he was a
synced kind of but there's a

2447
02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:15,960
there's something in this clip
that I wanted to wanted to play.

2448
02:29:15,960 --> 02:29:20,100
And this is Oh, yeah. This is
the fact that he won't he this

2449
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:24,090
this was in June. And he
wouldn't answer a question where

2450
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:30,180
were Trump's name was invoked?
And it would it was actually a

2451
02:29:30,180 --> 02:29:33,210
good question. It wasn't a Trump
question. It was just a comment

2452
02:29:33,210 --> 02:29:37,860
that Trump made that she wanted
him to respond to. He refused to

2453
02:29:37,860 --> 02:29:41,550
MIT to say anything about it
because it's Trump, and she

2454
02:29:41,550 --> 02:29:45,360
never called him back on it.
This very poor job by Norah

2455
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:47,580
O'Donnell here. Do you believe

2456
02:29:47,580 --> 02:29:50,280
Unknown: there is systemic
racism in law enforcement?

2457
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:53,730
Absolutely. It's not just law
enforcement across the board.

2458
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:58,770
It's in housing and education
and it's everything we do is

2459
02:29:58,770 --> 02:30:03,000
real. It's just Anyone that's
serious? Look, not all law

2460
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:06,270
enforcement officer racist, my
Lord are some really good good

2461
02:30:06,480 --> 02:30:10,410
cops out there. But the way in
which it works right now, you

2462
02:30:10,410 --> 02:30:14,130
seen too many examples of it. Do
you support defunding the

2463
02:30:14,130 --> 02:30:18,510
police? No, I don't support
defunding the police. I support

2464
02:30:18,570 --> 02:30:22,680
conditioning, federal aid to
police based on whether or not

2465
02:30:22,860 --> 02:30:25,560
they meet certain basic
standards of decency on

2466
02:30:25,560 --> 02:30:29,220
autumnalis When in fact are able
to demonstrate they can protect

2467
02:30:29,220 --> 02:30:30,780
the community and everybody in
the community?

2468
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:34,590
Does it hurt Democrats? Cause if
there are some in your party

2469
02:30:34,590 --> 02:30:37,440
that are saying defund the
police, the President is

2470
02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:41,220
suggesting that shows Democrats
are weak in terms of President

2471
02:30:41,220 --> 02:30:46,200
has no credibility on anything.
Herein lies. He's the first

2472
02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:50,610
person anyone can think of, in
modern history, who's taken

2473
02:30:50,610 --> 02:30:55,680
regular military officers and
had the move against peaceful

2474
02:30:55,680 --> 02:30:59,550
demonstrators, causing four
former Chiefs of Staff to say

2475
02:30:59,610 --> 02:31:02,970
this guy's bad this guy's wrong.
He should just stop.

2476
02:31:03,330 --> 02:31:06,450
Adam Curry: Wait a minute.
What's the National Guard,

2477
02:31:06,450 --> 02:31:09,300
wasn't it? Yeah, he says the

2478
02:31:09,300 --> 02:31:11,730
John C. Dvorak: military
officers, you officers get out

2479
02:31:11,730 --> 02:31:13,590
there and stop those protesters.

2480
02:31:15,660 --> 02:31:17,400
Adam Curry: I thought it was
generals, he made the generals

2481
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:17,910
do it.

2482
02:31:18,450 --> 02:31:21,060
John C. Dvorak: General generals
do some work. You're not doing

2483
02:31:21,060 --> 02:31:21,480
anything.

2484
02:31:21,510 --> 02:31:28,920
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness.
Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Well,

2485
02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:32,700
if you think that's the problem,
and we'll just kind of continue

2486
02:31:32,700 --> 02:31:36,960
this thread for a moment. ABC
News has found out that our

2487
02:31:36,960 --> 02:31:41,640
national parks are in fact
problematic, which an avenue

2488
02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:45,990
term for us. This needs this
situation with the natural parks

2489
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:52,530
needs to be normalised. Or this
can't be normalised depends on

2490
02:31:52,530 --> 02:31:54,420
how you want to use it. This
sweeping vistas

2491
02:31:54,420 --> 02:31:58,500
Unknown: stir the soul, wildlife
and waterfalls awaken a sense of

2492
02:31:58,500 --> 02:32:02,940
wonder. The American wilderness
a playground for old and for

2493
02:32:02,940 --> 02:32:05,670
young and overwhelmingly white.

2494
02:32:05,730 --> 02:32:08,580
When you look around you don't
see people that you identify

2495
02:32:08,580 --> 02:32:14,220
with. You don't feel welcome you
feel out of place you feel

2496
02:32:14,550 --> 02:32:17,940
literally like you are an
outsider.

2497
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:21,780
And Brene Tarik is founder of
brown people camping. When she

2498
02:32:21,780 --> 02:32:24,750
was eight years old, her family
moved from India to Minnesota,

2499
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:28,320
where she fell in love with the
outdoors. 20 years later, she's

2500
02:32:28,320 --> 02:32:31,920
still astonished not to see more
people like her. And they are

2501
02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:34,290
some people might say, Isn't
this just that people of colour

2502
02:32:34,290 --> 02:32:35,250
don't like to camp?

2503
02:32:35,460 --> 02:32:39,360
Yeah. And to that I would say,
No, right. That's a

2504
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:43,380
generalisation. And they're just
because something isn't

2505
02:32:43,380 --> 02:32:45,990
happening or the presence of
someone is missing does not mean

2506
02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:46,920
they don't want to be there.

2507
02:32:47,340 --> 02:32:49,470
So many Americans of colour
parks,

2508
02:32:49,470 --> 02:32:51,930
campgrounds and forest land are
stubborn

2509
02:32:51,930 --> 02:32:53,910
bastions of self segregation.

2510
02:32:54,810 --> 02:32:57,300
Adam Curry: Damn. Do you think
this is true? Is there some

2511
02:32:57,300 --> 02:33:00,840
truth to this? Seems wild this
accusation

2512
02:33:01,830 --> 02:33:03,600
John C. Dvorak: that blacks
don't like to camp?

2513
02:33:05,460 --> 02:33:07,590
Adam Curry: Yeah, John, that's
that was my question.

2514
02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:13,320
John C. Dvorak: That was a very
strange report.

2515
02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:15,810
Adam Curry: Oh, and it went on
for seven minutes. It was very

2516
02:33:15,810 --> 02:33:24,300
in depth. And I don't know. Does
I know who to ask of course,

2517
02:33:24,510 --> 02:33:27,990
that never really thought about
that. And I've been bringing it

2518
02:33:27,990 --> 02:33:31,560
up on the next show. Yeah, I've
been I've been around national

2519
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:33,720
parks a lot. I don't know it's
always seems pretty diverse to

2520
02:33:33,720 --> 02:33:38,250
me. But maybe it's tourists. I
don't know. Who knows. So this

2521
02:33:38,250 --> 02:33:40,530
is national parks are
problematic.

2522
02:33:44,340 --> 02:33:46,530
John C. Dvorak: Well, anyway,
that's a that's a showstopper.

2523
02:33:46,530 --> 02:33:50,340
Whatever you wish you did there.
Sorry.

2524
02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:52,080
Adam Curry: I didn't mean to
stop the show.

2525
02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:54,180
John C. Dvorak: Let's just play
this clip which I don't even

2526
02:33:54,180 --> 02:33:58,230
know what it is. called fake
racist.

2527
02:33:58,260 --> 02:34:00,960
Adam Curry: Okay, well, this
this can this could pick us up

2528
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:03,390
out of this show stopping
moment. Raymond DeRosa.

2529
02:34:03,390 --> 02:34:05,460
Unknown: And his family were
having dinner on his wife's

2530
02:34:05,460 --> 02:34:09,000
birthday July 4 at Carmel Valley
restaurant. Lucia.

2531
02:34:09,029 --> 02:34:12,839
We were there just celebrating.
Having fun. When that fun

2532
02:34:12,839 --> 02:34:13,229
quickly

2533
02:34:13,230 --> 02:34:15,930
disappeared as the man you can
see in the background of the

2534
02:34:15,930 --> 02:34:18,540
celebratory picture began
ranting

2535
02:34:18,570 --> 02:34:22,680
suddenly I hear this loud voice.
effing Asians.

2536
02:34:22,740 --> 02:34:25,830
A Rose says Nice. Jordan chan
recorded what happened next on

2537
02:34:25,830 --> 02:34:27,570
her cell phone Say that again?

2538
02:34:28,620 --> 02:34:29,550
Oh, now you're shy.

2539
02:34:29,790 --> 02:34:33,450
Michael Lofthouse gave the
family the finger then said you

2540
02:34:37,620 --> 02:34:42,960
need to leave. You need to not
talk. You need to leave Asian

2541
02:34:42,960 --> 02:34:43,350
pieces.

2542
02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:49,800
He was full of hate and anger
inside that there's still people

2543
02:34:50,340 --> 02:34:53,880
that are like that in this in
this world. Let alone in this

2544
02:34:53,880 --> 02:34:54,330
country.

2545
02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:56,760
Oh Lucia employee quickly
stepped in.

2546
02:34:57,810 --> 02:35:02,490
Adam Curry: Where did this turn?
Rama bass to entertainment take

2547
02:35:02,490 --> 02:35:03,000
place

2548
02:35:03,030 --> 02:35:06,810
John C. Dvorak: Carmel at the
Bernardus Lodge.

2549
02:35:06,990 --> 02:35:09,090
Adam Curry: And who's the white
person of this fractious because

2550
02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:09,900
that's how it's usually

2551
02:35:10,380 --> 02:35:13,890
John C. Dvorak: person is a was
did all the newest covered him

2552
02:35:13,890 --> 02:35:20,640
as a prominent Silicon Valley
CEO of a company as cloud based

2553
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:24,540
convenient out of San Francisco,
which is where the story gets

2554
02:35:24,540 --> 02:35:27,330
interesting. But you've read
that up and I'll tell you what,

2555
02:35:27,360 --> 02:35:30,390
what the deal is. Now

2556
02:35:36,660 --> 02:35:37,620
Unknown: I admire her for

2557
02:35:37,620 --> 02:35:40,230
that. In an email statement the
vice president and general

2558
02:35:40,230 --> 02:35:43,770
manager at Bernardus Lodge and
Spa in part writes, quote, We

2559
02:35:43,770 --> 02:35:47,460
are proud of our staff out Lucia
in keeping with Bernardus lodges

2560
02:35:47,460 --> 02:35:50,880
core values. Michael Lofthouse
also issued a statement writing

2561
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:54,480
quote, my behaviour in the video
is appalling. This was clearly a

2562
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:57,690
moment where I lost control and
made incredibly hurtful and

2563
02:35:57,690 --> 02:36:01,350
divisive comments. I would like
to deeply apologise to the chan

2564
02:36:01,350 --> 02:36:05,010
family. I can only imagine the
stress and pain they feel I was

2565
02:36:05,010 --> 02:36:08,040
taught to respect people of all
races and I will take the time

2566
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:11,400
to reflect on my actions or the
word or understanding inequality

2567
02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:13,950
that so many of those around me
face every day.

2568
02:36:14,010 --> 02:36:17,580
He's just saving face I think. I
think he really meant what he

2569
02:36:17,580 --> 02:36:21,930
said and what he did. I don't
believe his words. Because his

2570
02:36:21,930 --> 02:36:24,840
actions speak louder than the
words he say.

2571
02:36:24,960 --> 02:36:27,750
A Rosa says those actions in
part include additional

2572
02:36:27,750 --> 02:36:30,780
Instagram comments that appear
to have been posted by Lofthouse

2573
02:36:30,780 --> 02:36:34,200
directed at one of the family
supporters that include Asian

2574
02:36:34,230 --> 02:36:39,120
expletive and come near me or my
people and your expletive dead.

2575
02:36:39,150 --> 02:36:41,700
Lofthouse did not respond to a
request for an additional

2576
02:36:41,700 --> 02:36:46,140
comment about the Instagram post
or his role as solid eight CEO,

2577
02:36:46,350 --> 02:36:48,450
a San Francisco based tech
company.

2578
02:36:48,480 --> 02:36:54,420
I can't say what he did was was
acceptable or right. No, he it

2579
02:36:54,420 --> 02:36:58,290
isn't. It isn't because a lot of
people will probably disagree

2580
02:36:58,290 --> 02:37:00,480
with me by saying I forgive him,
but I do.

2581
02:37:01,140 --> 02:37:04,500
Adam Curry: Okay, well, this is
a interesting case that we have

2582
02:37:04,500 --> 02:37:05,250
on our hand. You've heard

2583
02:37:05,250 --> 02:37:08,520
John C. Dvorak: her she's he's
the CEO of solid eight, a San

2584
02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:10,470
Francisco based tech company.

2585
02:37:10,470 --> 02:37:14,970
Adam Curry: Yeah. You've looked
them up the solid eight. Okay.

2586
02:37:15,300 --> 02:37:17,130
All right. What's going on here?
This is a hate. I

2587
02:37:17,130 --> 02:37:18,990
John C. Dvorak: looked at
everything. Is this a hyper time

2588
02:37:18,990 --> 02:37:22,380
where they're located there and
I sent a note to this. This is

2589
02:37:22,380 --> 02:37:24,960
the ABC report, send a note to
the reporter saying you know,

2590
02:37:25,320 --> 02:37:27,240
give me the address of where
they are instant where this

2591
02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:31,380
company is in San Francisco. Do
you have it? The San Francisco

2592
02:37:31,380 --> 02:37:34,680
based tech company is San
Francisco based. Yeah. He

2593
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:38,010
started this company two years
ago out of his house in Los

2594
02:37:38,010 --> 02:37:45,090
Gatos and now it runs out of a
mail drop from it in a shopping

2595
02:37:45,090 --> 02:37:50,880
mall in Los Gatos that is to aim
the aim mailbox company he's got

2596
02:37:50,880 --> 02:37:54,210
his box number he doesn't have a
company that I can tell

2597
02:37:56,700 --> 02:37:59,550
Adam Curry: funny this is a porn
company come on. I don't

2598
02:37:59,550 --> 02:38:01,530
John C. Dvorak: even think is
data solid he does have a

2599
02:38:01,530 --> 02:38:04,560
website you go to I think a
solid eight.net or something or

2600
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:09,090
TV or some solid A dot info and
and it's just a dead site. It's

2601
02:38:09,090 --> 02:38:13,140
it was put together through
GoDaddy anonymously and it's

2602
02:38:13,140 --> 02:38:14,520
been Oh, I don't know decide to

2603
02:38:14,820 --> 02:38:18,720
Adam Curry: spend all this time
on ABC or local ABC station

2604
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:23,340
showing this guy racist Silicon
Valley's CEO what is up

2605
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:26,910
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and then
he also ran in USA Today it ran

2606
02:38:26,910 --> 02:38:30,360
it gives moto had a whole piece
on it which called the President

2607
02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:35,970
of the United States a white
supremacist. I mean, this is

2608
02:38:35,970 --> 02:38:39,240
completely nuts. This guy's this
far as I can tell, this guy's

2609
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:42,840
doesn't have a business. That'd
be he's hasn't caught. It is an

2610
02:38:42,840 --> 02:38:45,690
LLC that's registered with the
state of California through that

2611
02:38:45,690 --> 02:38:53,100
mailbox, in Los Gatos, which is
supposed to be the office. And I

2612
02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:57,270
don't know what's the goal here
and apology this guy had it was

2613
02:38:57,270 --> 02:39:00,510
a canned apology. How is this
even a newest toy? This is a

2614
02:39:00,900 --> 02:39:02,460
this is a sham.

2615
02:39:02,490 --> 02:39:07,230
Adam Curry: So what is this? Is
this a jab at the real Silicon

2616
02:39:07,230 --> 02:39:09,810
Valley to say, hey, we're just
warming up over here. This is

2617
02:39:09,810 --> 02:39:10,620
what we can do.

2618
02:39:11,130 --> 02:39:15,510
John C. Dvorak: I don't know.
Moto and after Asians for a

2619
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:20,700
reason who owns Gizmodo. Gizmodo
is owned by that company. That

2620
02:39:20,700 --> 02:39:24,240
was the day after Gawker Media
fell apart

2621
02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:26,520
Adam Curry: because that's Peter
Thiel by it all.

2622
02:39:26,940 --> 02:39:29,040
John C. Dvorak: I don't think
so. This is the one that Jezebel

2623
02:39:29,040 --> 02:39:32,940
is also part of this operation.
Try China's a bunch of social

2624
02:39:32,940 --> 02:39:35,940
justice warriors trying to find
a quote and put in a newsletter.

2625
02:39:36,330 --> 02:39:40,800
It's pretty pathetic, but the
scam of some sort and I can't

2626
02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:44,970
put my finger on why, or what?
Or maybe just the publicity

2627
02:39:44,970 --> 02:39:45,960
stunt for the guy.

2628
02:39:47,010 --> 02:39:50,040
Adam Curry: Well, that's really
lame way to go about getting

2629
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:51,570
some publicity for your flowers

2630
02:39:52,530 --> 02:39:55,380
John C. Dvorak: to accomplish.
Well don't do publicity stunts

2631
02:39:55,380 --> 02:40:00,120
unless it makes your money or
sells books. Exactly. I'm

2632
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:04,020
Unknown: gonna show my mood by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2633
02:40:04,020 --> 02:40:06,690
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2634
02:40:14,610 --> 02:40:17,220
John C. Dvorak: getting parched
Ryan Smith on top of the list

2635
02:40:17,220 --> 02:40:21,360
for the guys who want to thank
for show 1259 And he comes in

2636
02:40:21,360 --> 02:40:26,220
from Raleigh, North Carolina,
good old Raleigh 188 33. And he

2637
02:40:26,220 --> 02:40:32,280
made it tonight hood. is going
to be sir Jheri curl. Night. The

2638
02:40:32,280 --> 02:40:36,060
old thing is greasy. Yes,
indeed. And he wants root beer

2639
02:40:36,060 --> 02:40:39,720
floats in the agar schnitzel at
the knighting ceremony. Yeah,

2640
02:40:39,720 --> 02:40:41,400
Adam Curry: I already pre
ordered that. So we're good.

2641
02:40:42,330 --> 02:40:43,170
Okay, good.

2642
02:40:44,160 --> 02:40:46,920
John C. Dvorak: We're
Christopher Bolton in Newcastle,

2643
02:40:47,310 --> 02:40:54,420
under Lyme in Stratford. Sure.
UK. 137 17 I do have to read

2644
02:40:54,420 --> 02:40:59,310
what he says. Keep up the
adequate work and understated,

2645
02:41:00,030 --> 02:41:05,220
adequate work. The marshlands
and marshland Wisconsin 129 50.

2646
02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:12,330
Joe Campania in Ontario, Canada.
He's got some jobs karma at the

2647
02:41:12,330 --> 02:41:20,910
end for you. $111.11 Joe Anthony
Cole coat in Manchester, New

2648
02:41:20,910 --> 02:41:26,670
Hampshire. $100 and he I think
once the de douching were given

2649
02:41:26,670 --> 02:41:33,720
a tour de deuced named Ashley
Lady of the Lake and Mayfield

2650
02:41:33,720 --> 02:41:39,300
Heights Ohio's 100 Rob Van Dyck
$100 from him he's in the hall

2651
02:41:39,300 --> 02:41:45,540
Collins for sure. Sir Timothy
9999 James debt danger James

2652
02:41:45,570 --> 02:41:47,730
Jennifer. Again

2653
02:41:48,600 --> 02:41:50,550
Adam Curry: what is going on
with that your for your full

2654
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:52,440
you're flustered by Dame
Jennifer.

2655
02:41:52,980 --> 02:41:54,930
John C. Dvorak: Dame Jennifer
James and three

2656
02:41:55,470 --> 02:41:57,450
Adam Curry: what is she? What
did she say? Let me see what she

2657
02:41:57,450 --> 02:41:59,700
says let me see what she says
she's got some news in the

2658
02:41:59,700 --> 02:42:03,750
morning more value for value
from you all from animated no

2659
02:42:03,780 --> 02:42:09,480
agenda my LG why my dad would
have been 83 on July 11 effing

2660
02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:12,060
cancer Happy birthday in
paradise. We miss you here in

2661
02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:15,750
clown world that you're glad you
are missing. Hold on, let me

2662
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:21,360
expand that so you are missing
the chaos pronounced shoutouts

2663
02:42:21,360 --> 02:42:27,300
shoutouts of 20 20x o x o Dame
Jennifer ah that's so nice.

2664
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:31,290
John C. Dvorak: It's so her blam
the Vikon of Georgia Baron of

2665
02:42:31,320 --> 02:42:34,800
Buford dam and Sugar Hill,
Georgia and

2666
02:42:34,800 --> 02:42:37,320
Adam Curry: he's got a human
resource Max who he wishes a

2667
02:42:37,320 --> 02:42:38,970
happy birthday on the list.

2668
02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:41,640
John C. Dvorak: He also says I
like to call him out as a

2669
02:42:41,640 --> 02:42:42,570
douchebag.

2670
02:42:44,580 --> 02:42:46,350
Adam Curry: All right. Now this
isn't

2671
02:42:47,310 --> 02:42:49,410
John C. Dvorak: just for us this
year, because to be paying for

2672
02:42:49,410 --> 02:42:52,650
his way. Thanks for the
excellent continued coverage of

2673
02:42:52,650 --> 02:42:55,020
the pandemic. A lot of people
like that.

2674
02:42:55,140 --> 02:42:57,750
Adam Curry: Now this next one
Steve Webb, I just need to stop

2675
02:42:57,750 --> 02:43:02,250
for a moment. Steve Webb is OG I
think he was the original God

2676
02:43:02,250 --> 02:43:04,740
cat one of the original God
casters when we were just

2677
02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:15,000
starting 2004 2005 And he's it
just needed 7777 Knees in

2678
02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:16,950
Riverside California street a
little bit of his note, as

2679
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:19,020
you're well aware, Adam, you
changed my life when you wrote

2680
02:43:19,020 --> 02:43:21,090
the first little apple script
that was the beginning of

2681
02:43:21,090 --> 02:43:25,170
podcasting. Now almost 16 years
later, and over 2000 podcast

2682
02:43:25,170 --> 02:43:28,110
episodes later, what you began
is still taking far too many

2683
02:43:28,110 --> 02:43:32,310
hours of my life. He says he
took a few years off, but he's

2684
02:43:32,310 --> 02:43:35,820
he felt the calling to return to
producing more content.

2685
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:38,790
Lifespring media.com That's what
I was getting to and he's doing

2686
02:43:38,790 --> 02:43:42,390
10 episodes. And I don't think
he's I don't think he's donated.

2687
02:43:42,900 --> 02:43:46,980
But he wanted to say hi and he
wanted to support the show and I

2688
02:43:46,980 --> 02:43:54,570
want to give him a deep deep
deuced Welcome back.

2689
02:43:55,680 --> 02:43:59,700
John C. Dvorak: Onward Baron
Mark Tanner as usual. COMM 7654

2690
02:43:59,700 --> 02:44:04,260
Twice a month for inlier
California. Sure SAS get ciertas

2691
02:44:04,260 --> 02:44:08,610
in and get mo Night of the
Living skies and Saskatchewan

2692
02:44:09,360 --> 02:44:15,960
6969 Answers Jim Zucco 6969 in
Beverly Hills search Florida Bar

2693
02:44:15,990 --> 02:44:20,400
fast search Florida Bar fast yes
we're not. I'm not pronouncing

2694
02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:20,550
that

2695
02:44:20,550 --> 02:44:22,530
Adam Curry: right. Yes, you
aren't smart, smart fast. You

2696
02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:22,920
got it.

2697
02:44:23,880 --> 02:44:26,730
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the cream
of the crinkly crinkly bits in

2698
02:44:26,730 --> 02:44:31,080
hope Rhode Island 6543 to Rhode
Islanders today. Sure. Kyle

2699
02:44:31,080 --> 02:44:34,020
Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia. 60
Troy Watson and restaurant

2700
02:44:34,020 --> 02:44:39,420
shortener Nova Scotia the device
75 Darren Christie in Spokane,

2701
02:44:39,420 --> 02:44:48,360
Washington. 5150 Nathan pain,
pain. Paragon Indiana 5032 got a

2702
02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:55,470
birthday. Or excuse me the fruit
future Mr. Mrs. The future, Mrs.

2703
02:44:55,470 --> 02:45:03,390
Future Dame Payne Gordon veal of
5001 danza de douching you've

2704
02:45:03,390 --> 02:45:07,470
been reduced and the following
people or $50 donors name and

2705
02:45:07,470 --> 02:45:10,770
location if I have it, Jonathan
Faris and liberal Kansas and

2706
02:45:10,770 --> 02:45:15,510
Robert Deccan a in Fairfax,
Virginia Georgia Lloyd check in

2707
02:45:15,510 --> 02:45:19,800
Universal City Texas. Robert
Kerr back in Essex Ville

2708
02:45:19,800 --> 02:45:24,450
Michigan Stephen shoe maker or
make it looks like make but it

2709
02:45:24,450 --> 02:45:28,800
should be shoe maker I see Ohio
drew mo check in Mountain View

2710
02:45:28,800 --> 02:45:33,360
California we're Austin touch
golf in London, UK, Brian

2711
02:45:33,360 --> 02:45:39,180
Schoeps shop in Lenexa, Kansas,
I think needs to be famous

2712
02:45:39,180 --> 02:45:43,110
pottery made there. Jeremy
silver in Stratford,

2713
02:45:43,110 --> 02:45:47,340
Connecticut, Jessie Hall in
Friendswood, Texas. Kimberly

2714
02:45:47,340 --> 02:45:52,620
Redmond in Toronto, Ontario, yay
or more in basil.

2715
02:45:53,130 --> 02:45:55,530
Adam Curry: miles in Basel,
Basel,

2716
02:45:56,580 --> 02:45:59,580
John C. Dvorak: Switzerland,
Basel, Switzerland. And he is a

2717
02:45:59,580 --> 02:46:02,910
also got a birthday list and he
needs a de douching Yeah, we got

2718
02:46:04,620 --> 02:46:06,090
you. Oh, we have to

2719
02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:10,410
Adam Curry: go did you do an
interview with him? He

2720
02:46:10,410 --> 02:46:14,040
interviewed you and plugged the
podcast on Israel's most

2721
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:16,950
prominent financial newspaper in
2012.

2722
02:46:17,490 --> 02:46:21,990
John C. Dvorak: Ah, yes, I did.
Alright, nice. Then Clayton done

2723
02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:28,050
event in Greenfield Wisconsin
50. And keep on a great job by

2724
02:46:28,050 --> 02:46:33,000
the way our Israeli friend says
that would be concluding our

2725
02:46:33,120 --> 02:46:37,170
1259 Show. Of I want to thank
all the social producing the

2726
02:46:37,170 --> 02:46:38,580
show and keeping us going.

2727
02:46:38,760 --> 02:46:43,080
Adam Curry: And I have a quick
mate good for send your Magewell

2728
02:46:43,080 --> 02:46:47,940
who we highlighted as executive
producer or maybe SOC executive

2729
02:46:47,940 --> 02:46:51,180
Bruce on last show, Mr. Jobs
karma. Good because you'll share

2730
02:46:51,180 --> 02:46:52,440
with everybody who needs it
here.

2731
02:46:52,710 --> 02:46:56,970
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote

2732
02:46:56,970 --> 02:47:02,430
Adam Curry: for karma and thank
you also everybody who came in

2733
02:47:02,430 --> 02:47:05,880
under $50 for anonymity or
you're on one of the programmes

2734
02:47:06,450 --> 02:47:09,510
that is subscription and that
just keeps turning over and you

2735
02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:12,300
keep supporting the work and you
keep helping produce the best

2736
02:47:12,300 --> 02:47:17,130
podcast in the universe. 13
years and counting to learn more

2737
02:47:17,130 --> 02:47:32,910
go to vote.org/a. And here we go
for the my goodness the 12th of

2738
02:47:32,910 --> 02:47:37,050
July 2020 We have to hire more
who celebrates today has does

2739
02:47:37,050 --> 02:47:39,750
Chuck Schumer has to Hashtag
blessed of the kava tea

2740
02:47:39,750 --> 02:47:43,110
aficionados miss future Dame
Payne says Happy Birthday we're

2741
02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:46,020
smoking hot husband Nathan pain
he celebrates tomorrow. Jamie

2742
02:47:46,020 --> 02:47:49,680
Stinson just happy birthday to
his smokin hot hand Sir Paul the

2743
02:47:49,680 --> 02:47:54,480
trusted advisor turns 33 Sir
herb lambs son Max will be 19 on

2744
02:47:54,480 --> 02:47:59,760
the 19th Emily shade celebrates
on the 14th and Sir knives of

2745
02:47:59,760 --> 02:48:02,910
the Providence Plantations will
be 32 Tomorrow happy birthday

2746
02:48:02,910 --> 02:48:09,840
from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe. Only me

2747
02:48:09,840 --> 02:48:13,380
see Yeah, just one one knighting
but that doesn't mean that we

2748
02:48:13,380 --> 02:48:15,750
don't need our blade. I've got
the travel version here. So if

2749
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:18,090
you can compensate again, you
can't say oh, that's

2750
02:48:18,090 --> 02:48:22,680
compensation. No, that's a big
one. All right, then Ryan Smith.

2751
02:48:25,200 --> 02:48:28,200
Very nice to have you here on
the podium. As you obtained your

2752
02:48:28,200 --> 02:48:30,960
knighthood you join the
exquisite roundtable of the no

2753
02:48:30,960 --> 02:48:33,780
agenda Knights and Dames and I'm
very proud to pronounce the KP

2754
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:38,610
sir Jheri curl knights of the
NAACP agenda roundtable. For

2755
02:48:38,610 --> 02:48:42,390
you. We have the requisites
hookers and blow or rent boys

2756
02:48:42,390 --> 02:48:45,210
and Chardonnay but also by
request, root beer floats and

2757
02:48:45,210 --> 02:48:47,700
Jager schnitzel if you'd like to
add to that we could always

2758
02:48:47,700 --> 02:48:50,310
bring some cold brew coffee and
cannabis bourbon and bong rips

2759
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:53,580
trophies entire smoke onion
rings and ice cream kebab and

2760
02:48:53,580 --> 02:48:57,150
Persian wine polos, potato vodka
redhead and rise. We got that

2761
02:48:57,150 --> 02:49:00,000
bong hits and bourbon sparkling
cider and escorts ginger ale and

2762
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:03,660
Jerboas but there is always the
one favourites mutton and Mead.

2763
02:49:04,290 --> 02:49:09,000
Enjoy that and you know to go to
no agenda nation.com/rings to

2764
02:49:09,330 --> 02:49:12,060
give Eric Schiele and back
office all your information so

2765
02:49:12,060 --> 02:49:15,540
we can get you your signet ring,
handsome, handsome, no agenda

2766
02:49:15,540 --> 02:49:18,930
knight or Dame signet ring with
the sealing wax in your official

2767
02:49:18,930 --> 02:49:22,290
certificate. And thank you so
much for producing the no agenda

2768
02:49:22,290 --> 02:49:32,880
show the best podcast in the
universe don't want to be a

2769
02:49:32,880 --> 02:49:38,070
douchebag Yes, we have served,
Unitas Black Knight of Brooklyn

2770
02:49:38,070 --> 02:49:41,070
becomes the Baron of San
Francisco, as you heard earlier.

2771
02:49:41,610 --> 02:49:45,420
That is now approved by the
peerage committee and what are

2772
02:49:45,420 --> 02:49:49,050
we still looking for? We were
looking for Oakland and guess

2773
02:49:49,710 --> 02:49:53,160
Oakland. Oh, great. Okay,
Oakland that is and thank you

2774
02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:56,970
very much, Baron of San
Francisco for of course

2775
02:49:56,970 --> 02:50:01,020
producing this programme and the
best podcast in The Universe

2776
02:50:10,710 --> 02:50:15,390
All right, well, we do have two
meetup reports which are always

2777
02:50:15,420 --> 02:50:20,070
appreciated. From meetups that
took place in the past few days.

2778
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:23,340
I believe we go to Northeast
Ohio first hello from

2779
02:50:23,340 --> 02:50:26,820
Unknown: the Northeast Ohio
meetup. We are taking refuge in

2780
02:50:26,820 --> 02:50:30,390
North Canton because Summit
County and Cuyahoga County are

2781
02:50:30,390 --> 02:50:33,720
both closed for business. This
is Sir Christopher of Macedonia

2782
02:50:33,720 --> 02:50:39,180
saying hi and in the morning and
I'll pass the phone around. This

2783
02:50:39,180 --> 02:50:44,580
is the Earl Walkman Memorial.
This is Dame Ashley Lady of the

2784
02:50:44,580 --> 02:50:51,900
Lake whoa, whoa Hello John. I
think someone's smiling at you

2785
02:50:51,900 --> 02:50:57,090
Ashley How you doing? Oh Walkman
in the morning. This is Dame

2786
02:50:57,090 --> 02:50:59,520
Ashley Lady of the Lake. Hi
John.

2787
02:51:01,800 --> 02:51:06,270
Real Estate in the Morning Sir
David CPU in the morning fellas.

2788
02:51:06,510 --> 02:51:07,890
This is dude named Jay and I

2789
02:51:07,890 --> 02:51:12,660
Adam Curry: want to go with with
all the Knights and Dames I'm

2790
02:51:12,660 --> 02:51:16,050
not a sir I really don't believe
to be deserve to be on here. I

2791
02:51:16,050 --> 02:51:16,710
think you're getting an

2792
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:19,470
Unknown: alarm. My wife calling
wondering where I am right in

2793
02:51:19,470 --> 02:51:19,950
the middle of it.

2794
02:51:20,460 --> 02:51:23,040
Sergio we want here in the
morning. In The Morning John

2795
02:51:23,040 --> 02:51:27,900
Adams. In the morning Adam done
a call. In the morning Brian bag

2796
02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:30,090
is free back six to nine dude.

2797
02:51:31,170 --> 02:51:35,340
Kyle Blaine Maxwell didn't kill
yourself tomorrow. Morning. This

2798
02:51:35,340 --> 02:51:35,490
is

2799
02:51:37,530 --> 02:51:38,940
Drew sample Northland

2800
02:51:40,530 --> 02:51:46,590
Sparky Johnson, Sandusky, Ohio.
Boris Ungerleider somewhere what

2801
02:51:46,620 --> 02:51:48,090
Joe Bertolini Akron, Ohio

2802
02:51:49,080 --> 02:51:51,870
I think I got everyone so this
is the again Sir Christopher

2803
02:51:51,870 --> 02:51:55,320
starting off from now Canton
Ohio in the morning.

2804
02:51:55,560 --> 02:51:58,140
Adam Curry: Wow man. I think
that 21 people or something it

2805
02:51:58,140 --> 02:52:01,680
John C. Dvorak: was off the
hook. That's pretty amazing. I

2806
02:52:01,680 --> 02:52:04,680
love that and this is all just
go from place to place as they

2807
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:05,880
shut down behind them.

2808
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:08,430
Adam Curry: I know they're
running like breaking the law on

2809
02:52:08,430 --> 02:52:12,990
the lab. No agenda producer meet
up in Ohio, Northeast Ohio,

2810
02:52:13,320 --> 02:52:16,740
where they're all clumsy
together. We also have a

2811
02:52:16,770 --> 02:52:20,250
somewhat shorter report from
Seattle. This is Patrick at the

2812
02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:23,040
Seattle meet Mina and half of us
are still here.

2813
02:52:23,070 --> 02:52:27,450
Unknown: Hey, in the morning.
This is Sir art Vandelay and we

2814
02:52:27,450 --> 02:52:28,530
are having a good time.

2815
02:52:28,620 --> 02:52:32,220
It's Sir the original douchebag
from Seattle Washington. Hey,

2816
02:52:32,340 --> 02:52:34,890
coming at you from Wk RP in
Seattle.

2817
02:52:35,040 --> 02:52:38,340
I'm Cal I was sitting by one
Jonathan Coulton and I am a

2818
02:52:38,340 --> 02:52:44,250
colossal fucking douchebag okay.
I don't watch the podcast. We're

2819
02:52:44,250 --> 02:52:46,680
gonna hit him in the mouth. Hey,
this is well hit him in the

2820
02:52:46,680 --> 02:52:50,070
mouth. Hey, this is Thomas
Donald Trump. Don't trust China.

2821
02:52:50,100 --> 02:52:51,240
China's asshole.

2822
02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:54,419
Hey, this is Bryce. And believe
it or not, not everybody in

2823
02:52:54,419 --> 02:52:55,679
Seattle is crazy.

2824
02:52:56,700 --> 02:52:59,880
Adam Curry: Sounds like there's
some good ones up there. That's

2825
02:52:59,880 --> 02:53:05,670
so cool. And I understand this.
And I'm going to the next Austin

2826
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:09,630
meet up. It's important you want
to get out. You want to talk to

2827
02:53:09,630 --> 02:53:12,990
people that are least won't look
at Unifor you don't have to

2828
02:53:12,990 --> 02:53:15,630
worry about them. You know they
if you want to wear a mask if

2829
02:53:15,630 --> 02:53:19,230
you want to wear a hazmat suit,
no one's gonna care at the

2830
02:53:19,230 --> 02:53:21,720
meetup. If you want to have
nothing, no one's going to care.

2831
02:53:21,780 --> 02:53:25,140
You're just going to be together
you can talk can't talk with

2832
02:53:25,140 --> 02:53:28,170
anyone any we can't talk with
your own kids. Nuts. Hey, here's

2833
02:53:28,170 --> 02:53:31,500
the rest of the meetups as
they're scheduled for today we

2834
02:53:31,500 --> 02:53:33,870
still have the Alexandria
Virginia meetup I guess it might

2835
02:53:33,870 --> 02:53:38,400
be ongoing as we speak Hi guys.
And that was really Northwest

2836
02:53:38,400 --> 02:53:42,480
pencil tucky probably also
what's the you know still go to

2837
02:53:42,480 --> 02:53:47,400
night? Don't know it's probably
busy as well as do at the most a

2838
02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:51,990
dome in Malta. I hope that that
one okay. Then we have coming up

2839
02:53:52,140 --> 02:53:56,010
Friday on the 17th Montreal
Quebec six o'clock case citizen

2840
02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:58,740
organising for you The venue is
TBD. So go to no agenda

2841
02:53:58,740 --> 02:54:03,300
meetup.com Also on Friday in
Croatia at the Adriana bar Alex

2842
02:54:03,300 --> 02:54:06,300
will be organising at 7pm
Central European timezone and

2843
02:54:06,300 --> 02:54:09,420
can't wait to get a report from
that meetup western New York

2844
02:54:09,420 --> 02:54:15,480
local eight double oh eight the
boob at 2pm on July 18 ETA

2845
02:54:15,570 --> 02:54:20,880
Eastern Time and help us plan
this SS erode wolf bear on us Oh

2846
02:54:20,880 --> 02:54:24,840
western New York so go to no
agenda meetups.com If there

2847
02:54:24,840 --> 02:54:26,910
isn't a meet up there on the
list and we have many more in

2848
02:54:26,910 --> 02:54:30,960
the future. You can just start
one it's fun and cool people

2849
02:54:30,960 --> 02:54:34,200
come out and it'll be very good
for your mental well being

2850
02:54:34,260 --> 02:54:38,220
during this global lockdown. In
fact, it's like a party.

2851
02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:55,290
Sometimes you want to go hang
out with us feels the same.

2852
02:54:57,420 --> 02:55:03,510
Dislike apart I wanted to take a
moment, got a couple of three

2853
02:55:03,510 --> 02:55:12,510
clips actually, of Chris Fenton
and also have two clips. Chris

2854
02:55:12,510 --> 02:55:18,810
Fenton is a producer, he like a
movie producer, big time, he did

2855
02:55:18,810 --> 02:55:23,490
some of the Marvel stuff, Iron
Man, couple other movies. And

2856
02:55:23,490 --> 02:55:30,030
he, as the story goes, was so
tired of cow tiling to the CCP,

2857
02:55:30,210 --> 02:55:34,410
as all of Hollywood does, that
he's written a book, of course,

2858
02:55:34,950 --> 02:55:38,460
which he is now promoting. And
it's I have not read it yet. But

2859
02:55:38,460 --> 02:55:42,300
I look forward to. And here's
just a couple of clips of him

2860
02:55:42,300 --> 02:55:45,600
talking about the hoops that
they had to go through to get

2861
02:55:45,600 --> 02:55:48,600
have access to the Chinese
market, which is really where

2862
02:55:48,630 --> 02:55:52,530
all the money is. Yet since the
Clinton administration. That's

2863
02:55:52,560 --> 02:55:56,250
what the deals have been all
about. So from Hollywood to the

2864
02:55:56,250 --> 02:56:00,510
sports world, NBA without China
without access, and they and

2865
02:56:00,510 --> 02:56:03,300
they make take advantage of
their position. And they will

2866
02:56:03,300 --> 02:56:07,290
cut you off, as we saw with the
Hong Kong NBA Fructus, which

2867
02:56:07,410 --> 02:56:10,770
don't talk about that anymore.
So here he is talking about, I

2868
02:56:10,770 --> 02:56:13,410
think this is Iron Man.

2869
02:56:13,980 --> 02:56:17,640
Unknown: One of the things that
China was extremely strict on us

2870
02:56:17,640 --> 02:56:22,140
about was if you're going to
have access to this market, and

2871
02:56:22,140 --> 02:56:24,750
you're going to have access to
market and promote this movie

2872
02:56:24,750 --> 02:56:28,920
far beyond most movies, you need
to shoot the movie here, you

2873
02:56:28,920 --> 02:56:32,340
know, not all of it, but parts
of it. And you need to have what

2874
02:56:32,340 --> 02:56:35,670
they call first unit people over
which means having Don Cheadle

2875
02:56:35,670 --> 02:56:38,820
and Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert
Downey Jr. and having our

2876
02:56:38,820 --> 02:56:42,540
director over there, and
showcasing the movie by shooting

2877
02:56:42,540 --> 02:56:46,290
it, you know, so many days in
that market and having a certain

2878
02:56:46,290 --> 02:56:49,560
amount of the movie take place
in China in the final cut.

2879
02:56:50,460 --> 02:56:53,940
Unfortunately, what happened,
Robert Downey Jr got hurt in

2880
02:56:53,940 --> 02:56:57,900
that production. So we lost a
lot of potential shooting days

2881
02:56:57,900 --> 02:57:01,770
that we could have done in
China. So we ended up shooting

2882
02:57:01,980 --> 02:57:06,300
just second unit material in the
market. And we did certain

2883
02:57:06,300 --> 02:57:11,910
things that, you know, with the
CCPs, you know, guidance to try

2884
02:57:11,910 --> 02:57:15,720
to showcase the amount of
moviemaking we were doing in

2885
02:57:15,720 --> 02:57:19,050
that market, and the amount of
people that we were hiring with

2886
02:57:19,050 --> 02:57:22,530
those second unit shots that
were Chinese, and the amount of

2887
02:57:22,530 --> 02:57:26,520
skill set and exchange that
we're doing to help them build

2888
02:57:26,520 --> 02:57:31,110
their own film industry, right?
Because remember that CCP is

2889
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:35,220
about how do we govern 1.4
billion people and keep them

2890
02:57:35,220 --> 02:57:39,150
just happy enough that they
don't revolt? Right? You can

2891
02:57:39,150 --> 02:57:42,510
make them all happy. There's not
enough resources on Earth. So

2892
02:57:42,510 --> 02:57:44,970
how do you keep them just happy
enough that they don't revolt?

2893
02:57:45,510 --> 02:57:49,050
Part of that is giving them all
of what they need, and some of

2894
02:57:49,050 --> 02:57:52,350
what they want. But another big
part of that is also building

2895
02:57:52,350 --> 02:57:55,620
their middle class. And how do
you build their middle class?

2896
02:57:55,740 --> 02:58:00,930
Well, you create industries that
hire skilled labour in the film

2897
02:58:00,930 --> 02:58:01,860
industry is one of them.

2898
02:58:02,940 --> 02:58:07,050
Adam Curry: And it's already all
there. There's nothing left not

2899
02:58:07,050 --> 02:58:10,230
much. In Hollywood.

2900
02:58:11,910 --> 02:58:13,440
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, this
is true.

2901
02:58:14,550 --> 02:58:17,700
Adam Curry: Here's a here's a
funny anecdote he had about the

2902
02:58:17,700 --> 02:58:21,150
movie Point Break. They did, I
guess they did A a remake of

2903
02:58:21,150 --> 02:58:25,530
that movie of Point Break. But
he, again, a little interesting

2904
02:58:25,530 --> 02:58:29,400
tidbit on how much control that
a CCP has over the storyline.

2905
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:30,450
Even Point Break

2906
02:58:30,450 --> 02:58:34,680
Unknown: is another one right
where we did the remake. And

2907
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:38,370
there was a scene in that movie
where we were going to open up

2908
02:58:38,370 --> 02:58:42,720
the film with a cold open, which
is always that high action sort

2909
02:58:42,720 --> 02:58:45,660
of impact three minutes that
gets you right into the movie.

2910
02:58:46,050 --> 02:58:49,980
And it was going to take place
in Shanghai. And it was going to

2911
02:58:49,980 --> 02:58:54,210
take place in a building way up,
like on the top floor of one of

2912
02:58:54,210 --> 02:58:57,750
those massive buildings in the
Pudong district. And it was a

2913
02:58:57,750 --> 02:59:00,930
diamond, the diamond store,
diamond showcase centre, and

2914
02:59:00,930 --> 02:59:04,200
these motorcycles were driving
through and they got on the

2915
02:59:04,200 --> 02:59:07,200
elevator, and they started
taking all the diamonds. And

2916
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:11,400
then they drove out the building
up on the 100th floor. And they

2917
02:59:11,400 --> 02:59:14,010
had parachutes and they were
supposed to take the diamonds

2918
02:59:14,010 --> 02:59:17,760
with them. But because they're
sort of Robin Hood characters,

2919
02:59:17,790 --> 02:59:21,750
they were going to spread the
diamonds all over the city from

2920
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:25,530
the air. And then all the
Chinese were supposed to pick up

2921
02:59:25,530 --> 02:59:29,640
the diamonds because the Robin
Hood effort, you know, one over

2922
02:59:29,640 --> 02:59:32,910
the rich diamond dealers or
whatever. But the Chinese

2923
02:59:32,910 --> 02:59:36,900
government said, You can't do
that. I was gonna say this. I'm

2924
02:59:36,900 --> 02:59:39,900
sure that when didn't go over
very, very well said Well,

2925
02:59:39,900 --> 02:59:43,710
number one is our police would
have caught them. And number two

2926
02:59:43,710 --> 02:59:47,220
is the Chinese people would not
pick up diamonds that weren't

2927
02:59:47,220 --> 02:59:49,680
theirs. So this does not make
sense.

2928
02:59:50,190 --> 02:59:57,270
Adam Curry: That might actually
be true. So we need to help the

2929
02:59:57,270 --> 03:00:01,110
Chinese people. We need to keep
that Tell them what's going on.

2930
03:00:01,170 --> 03:00:02,700
John C. Dvorak: I don't know if
they pick up a diamond if you

2931
03:00:02,700 --> 03:00:03,750
see it laying around.

2932
03:00:05,279 --> 03:00:08,969
Adam Curry: That's our tip of
the day. Our anti CCP Tip of the

2933
03:00:08,969 --> 03:00:12,149
Day. If you see a diamond laying
around, go ahead, pick it up.

2934
03:00:12,359 --> 03:00:15,809
It's okay. Tell the tee it's

2935
03:00:15,810 --> 03:00:17,280
John C. Dvorak: a little
subtlety that's got to drive

2936
03:00:17,280 --> 03:00:20,100
these guys nuts, which is that
our police wouldn't let that

2937
03:00:20,100 --> 03:00:24,270
happen, right? When you compare
it to our storytelling

2938
03:00:24,270 --> 03:00:27,780
mechanism, it just on TV, for
example, let's examine the show

2939
03:00:27,780 --> 03:00:33,000
NCIS Los Angeles, where there
are bombings and shootings and

2940
03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:38,940
car chases and explosions all
over the place. Why these NCIS

2941
03:00:38,940 --> 03:00:45,750
people and no local cop ever
shows up. Our police in Los

2942
03:00:45,750 --> 03:00:47,370
Angeles don't give a crap.

2943
03:00:49,770 --> 03:00:53,400
Adam Curry: You know, I It's so
predictable. But the cops are

2944
03:00:53,400 --> 03:00:55,470
just gonna walk they're gonna
leave people are going to find

2945
03:00:55,470 --> 03:00:56,430
other things to do.

2946
03:00:57,720 --> 03:00:59,880
John C. Dvorak: So I think this
is done, we're gonna have a

2947
03:00:59,880 --> 03:01:04,380
policing problem and this major
knee jerk lives major move is a

2948
03:01:04,410 --> 03:01:06,420
Marxist idea. Yeah, yeah.

2949
03:01:06,449 --> 03:01:10,529
Adam Curry: major problem. I
mean, once you even just start

2950
03:01:10,529 --> 03:01:14,549
talking about defunding taken,
it's over. It's over who wants

2951
03:01:14,579 --> 03:01:17,489
wants that job? Ah, it's very,
very sad.

2952
03:01:18,540 --> 03:01:20,880
John C. Dvorak: Okay, so I have
a couple of things to end with.

2953
03:01:20,940 --> 03:01:25,110
Please. I thought this room
gently get to witness some Let's

2954
03:01:25,110 --> 03:01:27,600
fly where I got one short,
Kaylee one. Let's get it out of

2955
03:01:27,600 --> 03:01:30,000
the way. She's bitching and
moaning because she did a press

2956
03:01:30,000 --> 03:01:33,570
conference early in the week
where they all they asked her

2957
03:01:33,570 --> 03:01:36,030
was about the Confederate flag,
the Confederate flag because

2958
03:01:36,060 --> 03:01:38,700
Trump tweeted some something
stupid and

2959
03:01:38,730 --> 03:01:41,850
Adam Curry: see this is this is
what this is what Trump does

2960
03:01:41,880 --> 03:01:45,330
that will make people vote for
Kanye. It's this kind of shit

2961
03:01:45,330 --> 03:01:46,110
that drives people.

2962
03:01:46,470 --> 03:01:49,740
John C. Dvorak: Nobody's voting.
Okay, you can think that all you

2963
03:01:49,740 --> 03:01:56,970
want. But this is a classic is
she didn't have any didn't have

2964
03:01:56,970 --> 03:01:59,670
a setup. She didn't have any
target. But she did ever classic

2965
03:01:59,700 --> 03:02:02,280
clothes and walk with me yelling
at her

2966
03:02:02,790 --> 03:02:05,100
Unknown: on ventilators and
having collators that we were

2967
03:02:05,100 --> 03:02:09,000
able to deploy around the world
and help other countries. So

2968
03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:11,100
that's what I would have to say
on COVID. And finally, I did

2969
03:02:11,100 --> 03:02:14,640
with this, you know, I was asked
probably 12 Questions about the

2970
03:02:14,640 --> 03:02:17,790
Confederate flag. This
President's focused on action,

2971
03:02:17,790 --> 03:02:21,030
and I'm a little dismayed that I
didn't receive one question on

2972
03:02:21,030 --> 03:02:24,180
the deaths that we got in this
country this weekend. I didn't

2973
03:02:24,180 --> 03:02:27,330
receive one question about New
York City's shootings doubling

2974
03:02:27,330 --> 03:02:29,730
for the third straight week in
over the last seven days

2975
03:02:29,730 --> 03:02:35,010
shooting skyrocket by 142%. Not
one question. I didn't receive

2976
03:02:35,010 --> 03:02:38,400
the one question about five
soldiers who were killed. And

2977
03:02:38,400 --> 03:02:41,460
I'll leave you with this remark
by a dad it broke my heart. A

2978
03:02:41,460 --> 03:02:44,250
dad of an eight year old lost in
Atlanta this weekend. They say

2979
03:02:44,250 --> 03:02:47,940
Black Lives Matters. You killed
a child she didn't do nothing to

2980
03:02:47,940 --> 03:02:51,030
nobody was his quote. We need to
be focused on securing our

2981
03:02:51,030 --> 03:02:54,930
streets making sure no lives are
lost because all black lives

2982
03:02:54,930 --> 03:02:58,260
matter that of David Dorn and
that of this eight year old girl

2983
03:02:58,290 --> 03:03:02,610
thank you we're glad to

2984
03:03:04,020 --> 03:03:06,000
welcome you back last few all
those topics.

2985
03:03:06,030 --> 03:03:11,970
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. That was
what kind of what is what's

2986
03:03:11,970 --> 03:03:12,930
going on with her?

2987
03:03:13,740 --> 03:03:18,660
John C. Dvorak: She's worked her
job she's irked teach Bailey.

2988
03:03:18,660 --> 03:03:21,540
She's really just different.
Sarah Sanders is not much

2989
03:03:21,540 --> 03:03:23,850
different the way that you
approach these things. Sarah

2990
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:28,260
always had this grouchy look on
her face. She never smiled when

2991
03:03:28,260 --> 03:03:31,860
she did. It was rare. And it
wasn't part of it. She wasn't a

2992
03:03:31,860 --> 03:03:35,190
cute bubbly blonde. So the cute
bubbly bubbly blonde comes on

2993
03:03:35,190 --> 03:03:37,950
and she's smiling. She knows
everyone's name. And then at the

2994
03:03:37,950 --> 03:03:41,250
end she she turns on the group
and is yells at her for not

2995
03:03:41,250 --> 03:03:42,420
doing their job correctly,

2996
03:03:42,510 --> 03:03:45,720
Adam Curry: which is why we love
her and tag back while we write

2997
03:03:45,720 --> 03:04:07,080
songs about her. May we have her
around long time? But I don't

2998
03:04:07,080 --> 03:04:08,700
know. I I'm worried

2999
03:04:08,700 --> 03:04:14,310
John C. Dvorak: for her future.
Oh, she's fine. Says you? I

3000
03:04:14,310 --> 03:04:17,820
think so. So I got two other
clips. All right. Just a news

3001
03:04:17,820 --> 03:04:21,060
clip. This is the same Sophia
This is a major story that

3002
03:04:21,420 --> 03:04:24,270
they're playing on. They played
it on CBS. So I guess they're

3003
03:04:24,270 --> 03:04:27,030
picking it up in a national
level. But when you we talked

3004
03:04:27,030 --> 03:04:30,360
about the pope earlier I did
this happen? I'm thinking oh,

3005
03:04:30,360 --> 03:04:30,690
yeah,

3006
03:04:30,960 --> 03:04:34,260
Adam Curry: yeah, this, this is
another another another piece of

3007
03:04:34,260 --> 03:04:36,570
the puzzle in the new Dan Brown
and

3008
03:04:36,840 --> 03:04:39,990
John C. Dvorak: this. I have two
of them. One is it starts with

3009
03:04:39,990 --> 03:04:42,840
lowercase i think is the real
clip. The other one's was is an

3010
03:04:42,840 --> 03:04:43,590
empty file.

3011
03:04:45,090 --> 03:04:47,850
Unknown: Okay, the World Council
of Churches expressed dismay

3012
03:04:47,850 --> 03:04:51,090
today following a decision by
Turkey's president to convert

3013
03:04:51,090 --> 03:04:54,840
one of the country's most famous
landmarks from a museum into a

3014
03:04:54,840 --> 03:04:59,340
mosque. The iron Sophia in
Istanbul was built 1500 years

3015
03:04:59,340 --> 03:05:02,640
ago as an old Orthodox
Cathedral. CVS is Holly Williams

3016
03:05:02,640 --> 03:05:03,240
is there

3017
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:09,840
for nearly 90 years is a fear
has been a museum, built as a

3018
03:05:09,840 --> 03:05:14,100
cathedral for Christians, later
becoming a mosque for Muslims.

3019
03:05:14,370 --> 03:05:18,420
But modern Turkey's founder
Kemal Ataturk wanted it to be a

3020
03:05:18,420 --> 03:05:24,000
monument for everyone who's the
winner. Now Turkey's current

3021
03:05:24,000 --> 03:05:27,000
leader regifter. You've heard
one has announced it'll be

3022
03:05:27,000 --> 03:05:34,830
converted back into a mosque
delighting his devout supporters

3023
03:05:34,950 --> 03:05:41,670
who celebrated outside is Sofia,
chanting God is great. But the

3024
03:05:41,670 --> 03:05:45,990
decision horrifies those like
Nobel Prize winning author Orhan

3025
03:05:45,990 --> 03:05:49,710
Pamuk who want their country to
remain a place where politics

3026
03:05:49,710 --> 03:05:51,810
and religion are kept separate,

3027
03:05:52,170 --> 03:05:55,680
Adam Curry: that are millions of
sacred texts like me who are

3028
03:05:55,710 --> 03:05:59,940
crying against this, but their
voices are not heard because we

3029
03:05:59,940 --> 03:06:02,880
don't have enough free speech
and democracy in Turkey.

3030
03:06:03,030 --> 03:06:04,590
Unfortunately, anymore.

3031
03:06:05,010 --> 03:06:09,300
Unknown: I Sophia was built as a
cathedral around 1500 years ago,

3032
03:06:09,540 --> 03:06:13,140
when this city now known as
Istanbul was ruled by the

3033
03:06:13,140 --> 03:06:17,760
Christian Byzantine Empire. Then
nearly 600 years ago, it became

3034
03:06:17,760 --> 03:06:21,480
a mosque when the city was
conquered by the Muslim Ottoman

3035
03:06:21,480 --> 03:06:25,860
Empire. In modern day Turkey,
the religious and the secular

3036
03:06:25,860 --> 03:06:29,820
rubbed shoulders, often
surprisingly, sometimes

3037
03:06:29,850 --> 03:06:37,140
uncomfortably. Your decision to
convert ISFP back into a mosque

3038
03:06:37,140 --> 03:06:41,220
has been criticised by Christian
leaders. And US Secretary of

3039
03:06:41,220 --> 03:06:43,860
State Mike Pompeo warned against
it.

3040
03:06:45,180 --> 03:06:48,960
Adam Curry: When I hear this
report, I am so happy that the

3041
03:06:48,960 --> 03:06:52,680
state of Texas is lowering
marijuana to a second class

3042
03:06:52,680 --> 03:06:59,250
drug. This is I mean, this is
crazy. This is Vatican shit this

3043
03:06:59,250 --> 03:06:59,730
is you know,

3044
03:07:00,510 --> 03:07:01,650
John C. Dvorak: something going
on. Yeah,

3045
03:07:01,650 --> 03:07:05,760
Adam Curry: I think you've been
there. Okay, cool. Oh, yeah,

3046
03:07:05,790 --> 03:07:09,270
John C. Dvorak: definitely. Oh,
tell me it is unbelievable. This

3047
03:07:09,270 --> 03:07:16,380
thing was built in like 500 and
it is so big. It's it's

3048
03:07:16,380 --> 03:07:22,290
absolutely impossible to believe
that this is built it was built

3049
03:07:22,290 --> 03:07:27,120
during that era. It's a gorgeous
facility. The other thing is

3050
03:07:27,120 --> 03:07:30,360
there's a nearby there's another
famous mosque called the Blue

3051
03:07:30,360 --> 03:07:35,040
Mosque that serves the purpose I
don't know why they're switching

3052
03:07:35,040 --> 03:07:38,790
this back it was originally a
Eastern Orthodox Church did

3053
03:07:38,790 --> 03:07:43,590
massive massive church I mean
you have to go visit this thing

3054
03:07:43,590 --> 03:07:47,880
to to imagine how monstrous it
is. And then of course the

3055
03:07:48,300 --> 03:07:51,540
Ottoman Empire took it over and
turn it into a mosque and it's

3056
03:07:52,140 --> 03:07:53,400
it works as a mosque

3057
03:07:55,830 --> 03:08:00,030
Adam Curry: it works as a mosque
I mean, that looks like a mosque

3058
03:08:00,060 --> 03:08:02,610
Don't I need to change something
no conversion like just hang a

3059
03:08:02,610 --> 03:08:05,130
different sign on the outside?
What's the deal take the cross

3060
03:08:05,400 --> 03:08:09,240
John C. Dvorak: go into thing
it's pretty masky already

3061
03:08:11,550 --> 03:08:14,190
although there are some images
imagery in there, which they

3062
03:08:14,520 --> 03:08:15,180
know what they're gonna do

3063
03:08:15,780 --> 03:08:17,850
Adam Curry: paint over the fresh
Yeah, I'm gonna paint over the

3064
03:08:17,850 --> 03:08:19,650
frescoes This is not have to do

3065
03:08:19,650 --> 03:08:22,020
John C. Dvorak: that because
they have this. They the

3066
03:08:22,020 --> 03:08:25,020
frescoes are nice, are gorgeous.
Well, that's done. It's a

3067
03:08:25,020 --> 03:08:27,990
fabulous place that I don't
understand why they politicising

3068
03:08:27,990 --> 03:08:30,900
it's something else is going on
and we have to assume End of

3069
03:08:30,900 --> 03:08:36,840
Times, and The Times could be I
the last clip I have is irksome

3070
03:08:36,840 --> 03:08:37,230
clip

3071
03:08:39,810 --> 03:08:41,130
Adam Curry: as opposed to this,

3072
03:08:42,150 --> 03:08:44,700
John C. Dvorak: okay, yeah,
that's pretty bad. That's up

3073
03:08:44,700 --> 03:08:48,450
there. Yeah, this is the pro
sports team names and the all

3074
03:08:48,450 --> 03:08:51,810
these names. They're trying to
change all these names. This is

3075
03:08:51,810 --> 03:08:55,110
a good story because it brings
in an element that I do want to

3076
03:08:55,110 --> 03:08:59,760
discuss before we quit the show,
which is the notion that putting

3077
03:08:59,790 --> 03:09:04,380
any sort of makeup on is akin to
blackface. And we have to

3078
03:09:04,380 --> 03:09:08,940
remember that blackface is a
specific insult and an

3079
03:09:08,970 --> 03:09:13,020
appropriation based on the
minstrel era. It's got nothing

3080
03:09:13,020 --> 03:09:18,210
to do with painting your face at
a football game red or blue or

3081
03:09:18,210 --> 03:09:22,140
green or anything like that, at
all. But in this case, now we're

3082
03:09:22,140 --> 03:09:25,500
going to everything's going to
be equated to black face.

3083
03:09:25,590 --> 03:09:27,780
Unknown: Long time, there have
been calls for certain pro

3084
03:09:27,780 --> 03:09:31,530
sports teams to change names
that many of you as racist

3085
03:09:31,530 --> 03:09:35,100
change has been slow to come by.
But there is now a renewed

3086
03:09:35,130 --> 03:09:37,860
debate. Frank Morris with
memorization case you are

3087
03:09:37,860 --> 03:09:40,020
reports on what makes this
moment different.

3088
03:09:40,529 --> 03:09:44,819
Lots of Native Americans load
the name of Washington's NFL

3089
03:09:44,819 --> 03:09:46,409
team, the Redskins?

3090
03:09:46,560 --> 03:09:49,800
Yeah, it's a dictionary defined
racial slur. Full stop.

3091
03:09:49,830 --> 03:09:53,430
Crystal Echo Hawk, who has the
advocacy group illuminated says

3092
03:09:53,430 --> 03:09:57,000
a 30 year stalemate with a team
suddenly broke when Washington's

3093
03:09:57,000 --> 03:09:59,970
corporate sponsors demanded a
new name and the team had

3094
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:00,900
reconsider it.

3095
03:10:01,020 --> 03:10:03,780
What changed was the murder of
George Floyd. And it changed

3096
03:10:03,780 --> 03:10:04,830
everything in this country

3097
03:10:04,860 --> 03:10:07,710
John C. Dvorak: that includes
customer preferences. Just this

3098
03:10:07,710 --> 03:10:11,730
week, Walmart and Amazon joined
others and stopped selling the

3099
03:10:11,730 --> 03:10:14,970
team's merchandise. Mike Lewis,
marketing professor at Emory

3100
03:10:14,970 --> 03:10:19,500
University, just the Washington
team name now has become more of

3101
03:10:19,500 --> 03:10:23,550
a burden than a benefit. And he
says it's just the beginning,

3102
03:10:23,760 --> 03:10:24,690
the Indians

3103
03:10:24,690 --> 03:10:27,390
Unknown: second, the chiefs
probably Third, the Braves and

3104
03:10:27,390 --> 03:10:31,650
the Blackhawks don't take a lot
of heat for whatever reason. But

3105
03:10:31,950 --> 03:10:37,260
at this point, I think all sorts
of team names are now in play.

3106
03:10:37,440 --> 03:10:39,420
John C. Dvorak: The Cleveland
Indians have launched a formal

3107
03:10:39,450 --> 03:10:43,680
name review that leads primarily
the Kansas City Chiefs, Atlanta

3108
03:10:43,680 --> 03:10:46,710
Braves and the Chicago
Blackhawks hockey team. The

3109
03:10:46,710 --> 03:10:49,800
three teams all claim to
venerate Native Americans.

3110
03:10:50,220 --> 03:10:53,070
Crystal Echo Hawk says the names
Braves Blackhawks and chiefs

3111
03:10:53,100 --> 03:10:57,480
alone are not racial slurs, but
they do carry heavy baggage.

3112
03:10:57,660 --> 03:10:59,760
Unknown: But the imagery that
gets associated with those

3113
03:10:59,760 --> 03:11:02,910
names. It's the racist fan
behaviour when a fan paints

3114
03:11:02,910 --> 03:11:06,510
their face red. That is
blackface. blackface is wrong.

3115
03:11:06,510 --> 03:11:13,020
We I think most people in this
country get that now. All right.

3116
03:11:13,619 --> 03:11:17,009
John C. Dvorak: I see your face
red. That's black face. No,

3117
03:11:17,009 --> 03:11:22,769
that's red face. black faces
generic.

3118
03:11:22,800 --> 03:11:24,660
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. It's a
concept. No.

3119
03:11:27,240 --> 03:11:30,000
John C. Dvorak: That's not okay.
No, by the way, you paint your

3120
03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:31,500
face blue. That's not okay.

3121
03:11:32,039 --> 03:11:34,559
Adam Curry: It's problematic
black face problematic.

3122
03:11:36,120 --> 03:11:38,730
John C. Dvorak: issue. You know,
you're the one that ban that

3123
03:11:38,730 --> 03:11:39,270
word.

3124
03:11:39,330 --> 03:11:41,490
Adam Curry: No, I didn't ban it.
I said you got to look out for

3125
03:11:41,490 --> 03:11:43,860
it. And now we use it as like a
rim shot.

3126
03:11:44,520 --> 03:11:46,800
John C. Dvorak: You're using it?
Yes. Well, you're using I'm

3127
03:11:46,800 --> 03:11:50,370
over. You're using the reason I
decided not to ever use it but

3128
03:11:50,370 --> 03:11:53,190
you're using it now. I'm feeling
obliged to go back to using

3129
03:11:53,190 --> 03:11:54,990
okay, then I used to use it all
the time and

3130
03:11:54,990 --> 03:11:56,910
Adam Curry: I'll slow down but
it still should only be a

3131
03:11:56,910 --> 03:11:59,550
rimshot for us. It shouldn't be
we actually mean that.

3132
03:12:02,580 --> 03:12:04,230
John C. Dvorak: I'd rather have
a real rim shot.

3133
03:12:04,590 --> 03:12:12,690
Adam Curry: We can't normalise
that room shot. Well, I guess at

3134
03:12:12,690 --> 03:12:16,710
the beginning of the games, when
we have flybys of F fifteens

3135
03:12:16,710 --> 03:12:20,790
with Tomahawk missiles attached
that will be okay. And maybe the

3136
03:12:20,790 --> 03:12:24,450
Chinook helicopter or maybe the
Black Hawk maybe those will fly

3137
03:12:24,450 --> 03:12:28,710
over. I mean, come on. Where
does it well? No sound like like

3138
03:12:28,800 --> 03:12:32,580
an am radio talk show guy come
on. Where does it end? Yeah,

3139
03:12:32,580 --> 03:12:37,560
okay, Boomer. Well, it ends only
with things that hurt Trump nor

3140
03:12:37,560 --> 03:12:40,830
that we can spin to hurt Trump
or feeling your local politician

3141
03:12:40,830 --> 03:12:43,650
anywhere because this is not
just taking place here. Boris

3142
03:12:43,650 --> 03:12:53,520
Johnson has it many other
Bolsonaro Yeah, it's it's a

3143
03:12:53,520 --> 03:12:57,870
great time to be a podcaster
that's all I can say. Very, very

3144
03:12:57,870 --> 03:13:00,780
John C. Dvorak: proud of with
your own network to distribute

3145
03:13:00,780 --> 03:13:05,010
yourself without having to go
through pod bean or any of these

3146
03:13:05,700 --> 03:13:09,030
Federation's going oh, you know,
we don't think your podcast is

3147
03:13:09,030 --> 03:13:10,080
suitable anymore.

3148
03:13:12,060 --> 03:13:15,240
Adam Curry: Grumpy Old bands is
next with Dame Carolyn Blaney on

3149
03:13:16,800 --> 03:13:20,490
on the iron stick. So you can
check that out? Uh, no agenda

3150
03:13:20,490 --> 03:13:25,500
stream.com. And of show mixes
some some fun ones. Can we have?

3151
03:13:27,570 --> 03:13:31,590
Let's see Jesse Coyne Nelson. We
have very nice work from

3152
03:13:31,590 --> 03:13:36,390
Professor Jones. And Rolando
Gonzalez checks in with his 15th

3153
03:13:36,420 --> 03:13:41,790
mix. And we will be back on
Thursday. Coming to you from the

3154
03:13:41,790 --> 03:13:46,680
mouth of the rat here in the
Sunshine State of Florida,

3155
03:13:46,680 --> 03:13:49,290
United States of America. I'm
not quite sure what the femur

3156
03:13:49,290 --> 03:13:52,410
region is, but I hope to get out
soon. Anyway. It's the hotspot.

3157
03:13:52,410 --> 03:13:54,570
That's where we are in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

3158
03:13:54,570 --> 03:13:54,930
curry.

3159
03:13:55,350 --> 03:13:57,210
John C. Dvorak: I'm from
Northern Silicon Valley where

3160
03:13:57,210 --> 03:14:02,310
during the show, there were six
motorcycle runs that shut down

3161
03:14:02,310 --> 03:14:05,940
the freeway, one of a massive
I'm Jhansi Dvorak we return

3162
03:14:05,940 --> 03:14:08,160
Adam Curry: on Thursday right
here on no agenda. Remember us

3163
03:14:08,160 --> 03:14:13,830
at the vortech.org/and A until
then adios mofos and such

3164
03:14:20,580 --> 03:14:22,740
Unknown: according to our new
ABC News poll,

3165
03:14:23,160 --> 03:14:26,550
Ipsos nine out of 10 Americans
say they want to mask in public

3166
03:14:26,730 --> 03:14:30,210
in the last week. Right now in
the United States. People should

3167
03:14:30,210 --> 03:14:34,230
not be walking around with
masks. But there's some partisan

3168
03:14:34,230 --> 03:14:34,740
divide.

3169
03:14:35,670 --> 03:14:38,730
John C. Dvorak: You said as late
as March 31. There was no

3170
03:14:38,730 --> 03:14:43,200
consensus on wearing masks. Let
me explain to you what happened

3171
03:14:43,200 --> 03:14:43,950
back then.

3172
03:14:46,500 --> 03:14:50,070
Unknown: But in general, if
someone is well enough to be out

3173
03:14:50,070 --> 03:14:53,670
in public, they're medically
well enough to put some kind of

3174
03:14:53,670 --> 03:14:55,260
face covering or mask on.

3175
03:14:56,580 --> 03:14:59,970
Nobody's wearing nobody's
putting together

3176
03:15:01,410 --> 03:15:04,410
an off duty officer was seen
body slamming a woman at a

3177
03:15:04,410 --> 03:15:07,440
Walmart when she allegedly
refused to wear a mask

3178
03:15:10,320 --> 03:15:15,720
a little more than a fashion
symbol submission virtue signal

3179
03:15:15,990 --> 03:15:19,860
showing that they're good
citizens obey the instructions

3180
03:15:21,480 --> 03:15:35,100
okay we're gonna play that game
in your neighbourhood a

3181
03:15:35,100 --> 03:16:03,720
symptomatic don't wear a mask
all your friends the cases are

3182
03:16:03,720 --> 03:16:12,600
spreading in your neighbourhood
stay in town matters in your

3183
03:16:12,600 --> 03:16:26,190
neighbourhood still writing ins
not going back to normalcy you

3184
03:16:32,040 --> 03:16:39,720
boss cars the programme is
coming up again and keep off

3185
03:16:39,720 --> 03:16:47,640
this programme is essential and
your neighbour just go back to

3186
03:16:47,640 --> 03:16:48,120
gates we're

3187
03:16:57,900 --> 03:17:02,520
coming to the people challenge
us when young people and other

3188
03:17:02,520 --> 03:17:08,010
people who are frustrated by the
people you you are paying to be

3189
03:17:08,040 --> 03:17:11,220
among people out there throwing
rocks, breaking windows and

3190
03:17:11,220 --> 03:17:14,820
burning down buildings. Young
people are responding to that.

3191
03:17:16,050 --> 03:17:22,890
And here's an easy way to find
not just some of them, not just

3192
03:17:22,890 --> 03:17:27,570
here in Minneapolis, in every
city, across America, where our

3193
03:17:27,570 --> 03:17:31,530
people are being murdered,
everywhere. That's the bottom

3194
03:17:31,530 --> 03:17:36,360
line. For your job. Do what you
say this country is supposed to

3195
03:17:36,360 --> 03:17:39,360
be about the land of the free
for all it had not been free for

3196
03:17:39,360 --> 03:17:42,300
black people and we are tired.
Don't talk to us about looting.

3197
03:17:43,440 --> 03:17:47,070
America has loaded black people
American loaded and Native

3198
03:17:47,070 --> 03:17:50,220
Americans when they first came
here, loading is watching do we

3199
03:17:50,220 --> 03:17:57,420
learn from you, we learn from
you. We learn from you, what we

3200
03:17:57,420 --> 03:18:02,040
learn from you. So if you want
us to do better, you do better

3201
03:18:06,810 --> 03:18:11,130
if I can't, I'm not allowed to
go to church. I'm not allowed to

3202
03:18:11,130 --> 03:18:13,080
open my own business. I can
collude other people's

3203
03:18:13,080 --> 03:18:13,440
businesses.

3204
03:18:16,770 --> 03:18:20,100
In my city with bricks. I'm not
allowed to peacefully protest

3205
03:18:20,100 --> 03:18:26,040
the lockdown of my place. I'm
not allowed to protect

3206
03:18:26,040 --> 03:18:29,520
historical monuments a district
are not allowed to have an

3207
03:18:29,520 --> 03:18:31,290
opinion on racial matters
because I'm white, but I don't

3208
03:18:31,290 --> 03:18:32,970
have an opinion on it and the
reason why people are oppressed

3209
03:18:33,510 --> 03:18:37,680
riot industries with the BLM
Trump rally COVID-19 Does anyone

3210
03:18:37,680 --> 03:18:54,510
else not? I'm Doug. MoPhO
avora.org/a sizzle board and

3211
03:18:55,680 --> 03:18:58,050
I'm going to give you the whole
load today.