1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,990 John C Dvorak: Hey, we're all broke. Adam curry, John C. 2 00:00:03,990 --> 00:00:04,710 Dvorak. 3 00:00:05,310 --> 00:00:08,100 Adam Curry: February 23 2023 industries your award winning 4 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:11,670 keep our nation media assassination episode 1532. This 5 00:00:11,730 --> 00:00:12,300 is no 6 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:15,900 Unknown: agenda, speaking in real time and 7 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:18,060 Adam Curry: broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill 8 00:00:18,060 --> 00:00:20,430 country here in February. Tip number six in the morning, 9 00:00:20,430 --> 00:00:22,020 everybody. I'm Adam curry, 10 00:00:22,290 --> 00:00:24,330 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm not 11 00:00:24,330 --> 00:00:28,170 taking part in the sandwich eating thing. I'm Jesse Devorah. 12 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:34,860 Adam Curry: Sandwich eating thing Do tell. 13 00:00:36,090 --> 00:00:40,470 John C Dvorak: So I'm watching poda and Jenna, as I would do 14 00:00:40,620 --> 00:00:41,400 every morning. 15 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:45,000 Adam Curry: Yeah, of course on GMA a part three. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,950 John C Dvorak: And 17 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:51,450 Adam Curry: we'd sad life you have, sir, if that's what 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,960 John C Dvorak: was missing in action. They had some guy from 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,900 the show, there's some other guy whose name I can never recall. 20 00:00:58,140 --> 00:01:00,480 And they were discussing the biggest thing going on on the 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,350 internet, right? Oh, here's how to eat a sandwich. This is how 22 00:01:04,350 --> 00:01:08,070 bad has become this is bringing me back to the blogging days 23 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:11,730 where you people would blog? Yes, I ate a cheese sandwich 24 00:01:11,730 --> 00:01:13,770 today. And that would be their blog post. 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,700 Adam Curry: This plays into something I wanted to talk with 26 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,290 you about how convenient? 27 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:21,480 John C Dvorak: Well, I wouldn't be convening because you keep up 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,100 with this stuff. You'd probably all 29 00:01:24,270 --> 00:01:25,950 Adam Curry: understand. Yeah, I'm all in on the sandwich 30 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:29,280 thing. No, I'm gonna tie into your newsletter, where you 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,520 notice that the newsletter was not as effective as it used to 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,770 be? I mean, do you want to just briefly summarize what you what 33 00:01:37,770 --> 00:01:38,370 you wrote? 34 00:01:38,670 --> 00:01:41,880 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was bitching that the generally 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,240 speaking, they pay pal donations that come in at the moment a 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,770 newsletter sent out or increased by a certain percentage of the 37 00:01:49,770 --> 00:01:54,630 original number in his formula. Yeah. And that has been not 38 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:58,170 working recently, for some reason. And I got a lot of notes 39 00:01:58,170 --> 00:02:02,580 from everybody saying, hey, the notes all had the same theme. 40 00:02:03,150 --> 00:02:09,270 Hey, we're all broke. And I'm thinking, Oh, gee, Joe Biden 41 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:10,920 says it economy's booming. 42 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:14,550 Adam Curry: Every note says we're all broke. That's 43 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:15,180 interesting. 44 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:17,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah, pretty much. I think that's the 45 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:22,260 thematically denotes all said, we're all broke. 46 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:26,250 Adam Curry: Something else is going on here. And you 47 00:02:26,250 --> 00:02:31,650 identified it and I prove I put a link to to this in in the show 48 00:02:31,650 --> 00:02:39,420 notes. On May 25 of 2021. You wrote an essay titled The death 49 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:43,530 of expertise and the rise of the Internet. So this was mid 50 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:48,030 pandemic. And you penned this yourself and I shall just read 51 00:02:48,030 --> 00:02:49,590 the opening paragraph. 52 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:53,280 John C Dvorak: We'll use pins to go on which but go on. 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,630 Adam Curry: Thank you, Kara. I will read it. Yeah, you're 54 00:02:57,630 --> 00:03:01,950 always doing it. The modern Internet has become a hopeless 55 00:03:01,950 --> 00:03:06,450 cesspool of lies misinformation, Mal information, bad intentions, 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,050 ignorant good intentions and half truths. Outright hoaxes, 57 00:03:10,050 --> 00:03:13,710 slander, cruelty, as well as a refuge for creeps, criminals, 58 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:16,620 thieves, phonies, agent provocateurs, wouldn't be 59 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:21,120 revolutionary predators, useless in fake reviews, Satanist, and 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,920 worse. Linking the entire globe of all the subsystems of 61 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,950 corporate archives, personnel records, medical information, 62 00:03:29,130 --> 00:03:32,910 electrical grid interactions, and more will turn out to be the 63 00:03:32,910 --> 00:03:37,260 dumbest thing humanity has ever done. This is one of my favorite 64 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:42,810 pieces from you. And I think you're absolutely correct. Now 65 00:03:42,810 --> 00:03:45,090 you go on to say that we should basically shut the internet 66 00:03:45,090 --> 00:03:48,990 down, which I think you could have for years to have a debate 67 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:52,560 over that. But there's something else going on that ties into 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,260 this. And I noticed it this week, as I was I was watching 69 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:02,520 some videos that someone sent me and let me see if I got this. 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:10,230 And it was Yeah, here it is. It was a deep fake of Rogen and 71 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:13,170 Peterson that just listen to this. Yeah, just listen to this 72 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:16,710 because it's I'm astounded about just how good this really is. 73 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:20,430 All right, Jordan, I've been hearing a lot about Peppa Pig 74 00:04:20,430 --> 00:04:23,820 lately. What's all the fuss about the show? Well, Joe, you 75 00:04:23,820 --> 00:04:26,700 know Peppa Pig it's not just a bloody kid show it has a lot of 76 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,940 layers to it. There's actually a political dimension to Peppa Pig 77 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:32,880 that a lot of people overlook. Wow, really? I never thought 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,510 about that. What do you mean by political dimension? Hold that 79 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:39,360 Okay, so this goes on and I think in general I mean, I can 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,390 hear it pretty quickly that this is what we would call so called 81 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:46,680 Deep fake it would it what would video so that actually distracts 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,730 from from the trick? Because you know, the mouse never really 83 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:55,110 worked the mouse are not there yet. But I realized that people 84 00:04:55,110 --> 00:05:01,110 who listen to podcast a in 1.5 or two times speed Do you really 85 00:05:01,110 --> 00:05:05,190 can't separate facts from fiction when you're doing that, 86 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:09,630 because the, in general, you're now already used to a 87 00:05:09,630 --> 00:05:12,960 particularly for us like overcast, smart speed feature 88 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,220 which chops out silences. You know, you're getting a choppy 89 00:05:17,220 --> 00:05:21,930 version, you're really training your brain to accept horrible, 90 00:05:22,380 --> 00:05:27,960 horribly faked audio as probably real and good because that's 91 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,560 what you're listening to. And, and here's the thing I posted 92 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:35,550 something just to kind of throw it out there to the effect of, 93 00:05:35,850 --> 00:05:41,610 if you listen to podcasts at 1.5 or two point times speed, you 94 00:05:41,610 --> 00:05:46,800 will not be able to detect the AI phony AI stuff in the future. 95 00:05:47,220 --> 00:05:48,840 You know, the choice is yours, whatever. 96 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,990 John C Dvorak: You know, I saw you going back and forth on the 97 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:57,120 no agenda social with this argument. Yes. And I never 98 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,490 realized that you base it on the Peppa Pig. 99 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:04,980 Adam Curry: That's where it started. And the amount of 100 00:06:04,980 --> 00:06:12,660 people who listen at high speed is astounding. And I think that 101 00:06:12,660 --> 00:06:16,320 you're allowed. I mean, what's happening here? Because I've 102 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,540 asked many people well, you know, why do you do that? Well, 103 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:21,930 I can I can do more my day, I can read more more sub stacks, I 104 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:27,450 can listen to more podcasts. If your amygdala is completely out 105 00:06:27,450 --> 00:06:31,020 of whack, if you're doing this, I believe that your nervous 106 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:35,580 system is being hijacked. It's very unhealthy. This is 107 00:06:35,580 --> 00:06:40,230 analogous to Hitler changing, you know, the age from four for 108 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:43,980 432 to 440. You know whether that was true or not, but when 109 00:06:44,010 --> 00:06:47,670 when things are not in tune when they're not resonating because 110 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:51,060 they're human. They I think this is really bad for you. And what 111 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:58,140 I see happen is, is everyone is now doing outrage, podcasting. 112 00:06:58,260 --> 00:07:02,580 We got someone who responded to the newsletter says, How come 113 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:06,000 you didn't start with the with Ohio? Why wasn't that your lead? 114 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Well, first of all, we're not a news program. We don't do 115 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,420 leaves. You know, we don't have a meeting about what we're going 116 00:07:12,420 --> 00:07:15,630 to do. You know, it's unscripted. I don't know maybe 117 00:07:15,630 --> 00:07:19,200 47,000 people dead and turkeys more important didn't start with 118 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:25,200 that either. But I see Tucker Carlson opening his show was 20 119 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:31,260 minutes on Don Lemon. You know, it's like people are consuming 120 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:35,400 so much and they get so riled up like, Hey, man, you Don's gonna 121 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,870 save us Twitter files is the truth or don't run the sentence 122 00:07:39,870 --> 00:07:43,320 he's gonna save us. Rhonda Santas all he's talking about 123 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:50,340 his woke culture. James O'Keefe will rise again. No, no, this 124 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:53,580 isn't your have been hide your nervous systems have been 125 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:57,690 hijacked. When you find when you find yourself yelling at 126 00:07:57,690 --> 00:08:02,070 podcasts agreeing that yeah, Joe Biden should be in Ohio. Not 127 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:06,270 it's like sure that you've lost the overall plot of what's going 128 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:11,850 on and they're winning. They are winning. And I think you know, 129 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:19,230 this, this dopamine hits, this is what podcasts are now it goes 130 00:08:19,230 --> 00:08:23,730 from Megyn Kelly outrage outrage out when she's still mad at 131 00:08:24,090 --> 00:08:27,750 Meghan Markel, for some reason to the pool boy, you know, who 132 00:08:27,750 --> 00:08:32,400 will yell about this stuff incessantly. So I just want to 133 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,700 warn everybody that I think you're out of resonance when 134 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:39,060 you're when you're listening to podcasts at high speed and why? 135 00:08:39,630 --> 00:08:44,790 Why are you doing this? And if it's to cram in more, no, don't 136 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:48,540 drink from a fire hose like that. Anyway, so it reminded me 137 00:08:48,540 --> 00:08:52,650 of that piece of yours from from 2021. It's like, yeah, that's 138 00:08:52,650 --> 00:08:54,210 that's where we're at. Now, 139 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,560 John C Dvorak: as a good piece. By the way, there's 140 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:56,730 Adam Curry: a very good piece. 141 00:08:57,210 --> 00:09:00,240 John C Dvorak: Now, I'm not going to disagree with anything 142 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,640 you had to say. And I think people should be listened to I 143 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,790 think, listening to a podcast in the background while you're 144 00:09:05,790 --> 00:09:08,550 doing something else, which is what a lot of people do, I think 145 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:14,190 is, is okay. But But jamming it in at 1.5. Because it's all it's 146 00:09:14,190 --> 00:09:17,250 three hours. Oh, I can't I don't have time for that. Well, you 147 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:21,900 don't you have podcasts or not television? No, even though the 148 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:24,840 best television is, as I think it was, some of the early 149 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,870 producers in the 50s and 60s would talk about television as 150 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:33,270 being casual. So a good TV show, sitcom or other when they were 151 00:09:33,270 --> 00:09:36,960 more popular. This doesn't apply to dramas as much, but to 152 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,220 sitcoms where you can just come and go you don't have to sit and 153 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:44,940 watch the whole show. You can just watch bits and pieces of it 154 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:48,360 while you do other things. Yeah was considered the way to do 155 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,800 television back in the day. This 156 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,140 Adam Curry: is another point that I'd like to bring up. Why 157 00:09:52,140 --> 00:09:55,650 do you need to watch people with headphones on and microphones in 158 00:09:55,650 --> 00:09:56,730 front of their faces 159 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,310 John C Dvorak: but that joke a that's a I think that's a 160 00:09:59,310 --> 00:10:03,270 different time. But but it's part of that most of it that 161 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,060 makes no sense sense at all to me that 162 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:10,500 Adam Curry: I want to I want to see people you can blame Howard 163 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:11,610 John C Dvorak: Stern for that 164 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:13,230 Adam Curry: was it though 165 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,440 John C Dvorak: now you will edge also that other guy that guy the 166 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:19,830 the the outrage 167 00:10:21,450 --> 00:10:23,220 Adam Curry: outro Well which one pick them 168 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:27,510 John C Dvorak: but I'm talking about the what the outrage guy 169 00:10:27,510 --> 00:10:31,680 who went on and and video at his radio show 170 00:10:33,150 --> 00:10:34,050 Adam Curry: Alex Jones 171 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:39,390 John C Dvorak: No no no this up to a pure radio guy. Famous 172 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:41,430 Imus, Imus Yeah, 173 00:10:41,490 --> 00:10:43,800 Adam Curry: I miss Don Imus Imus in the Morning. 174 00:10:44,069 --> 00:10:46,049 John C Dvorak: I think I miss babe in the first guy maybe? 175 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,029 Yeah, well, all radio 176 00:10:48,030 --> 00:10:51,030 Adam Curry: stations around the world do it now and but people 177 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:54,510 are drawn to it. I'm not quite sure why. But anyway, my point 178 00:10:54,510 --> 00:10:59,250 is, I just don't think it's healthy because you are missing 179 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:02,940 context. Forget, forget that I've that. I think we're making 180 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:07,200 art here. That's okay. Art. You know, I always say, would you 181 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,650 jog past the Mona Lisa, jog past the Mona Lisa, don't take a look 182 00:11:10,650 --> 00:11:15,600 at it. But that but besides that is just not healthy. And I worry 183 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,950 for people who don't see what's happening. And it's like Gene, 184 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:24,390 sir gene man, he listened he he recommends people listen to his 185 00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:30,870 own podcast and 1.5 speed. This is crazy. Let's do this. 186 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:34,380 John C Dvorak: Hello. Now while I'm talking to you, and you hear 187 00:11:34,380 --> 00:11:37,530 me in normal speed, stop it. Okay. 188 00:11:38,850 --> 00:11:40,050 Adam Curry: Hopefully that'll come through to 189 00:11:40,050 --> 00:11:42,210 John C Dvorak: people. I think that overlooked point here 190 00:11:42,210 --> 00:11:46,020 because you've gone past it is that if you listen at 1.5 speed, 191 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:48,120 you will never hear a deep fake. 192 00:11:48,690 --> 00:11:51,810 Adam Curry: No, the exactly. You won't hear the deep fakes. 193 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:55,590 John C Dvorak: You can you can be buffaloed and 194 00:11:55,620 --> 00:11:59,100 Adam Curry: it's getting better. It really is this kind of here's 195 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:03,270 an example of one because you know, of course our president 196 00:12:03,270 --> 00:12:10,770 was in Ukraine. Lottie da so here's this shows up. Biden hot 197 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:14,280 mic in Poland, these three objects for most likely, this is 198 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:18,060 Biden answering some questions and then he walks away. And then 199 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:22,200 the press are yelling at him. And apparently he has a hot mic 200 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,880 batch backstage wounds tied 201 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,670 Unknown: to private companies studying whether or conducting 202 00:12:26,670 --> 00:12:28,110 other scientific research 203 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:42,060 Adam Curry: is good. If you can hear. Do you think they bought 204 00:12:42,060 --> 00:12:45,390 that bullshit? And someone says Yeah, completely, sir. All 205 00:12:45,390 --> 00:12:48,420 right. Let's get out of here. I mean, you can't even hear it. 206 00:12:48,420 --> 00:12:50,250 You can't even hear it. Listen to it. Normally. 207 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:52,140 John C Dvorak: I think that's the way you have to do it. 208 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:54,780 Adam Curry: Well, I did that kind of hot mic stuff. 209 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:57,840 John C Dvorak: But if you're gonna do a fake Hi, Hi, Mike. 210 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,560 Yeah, but it 211 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,600 Adam Curry: was bad. It was a bad fake because I heard it a 212 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,940 waiter says that's not that's not Biden. That's not the same 213 00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:04,530 Biden who just walked off stage 214 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,930 John C Dvorak: No, but no, at the end of his speech, Biden's 215 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:10,530 not going to be that area died. He's going to be tired. Right? 216 00:13:10,830 --> 00:13:14,490 But you have to have a tired stumbling. You have to have a 217 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:16,320 hot Biden at the beginning. 218 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:20,430 Adam Curry: But if you listen to it at double speed you're gonna 219 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:25,620 miss it. Oh, god, that's great. Let me send it to Adam. Let me 220 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:31,440 post it on telegram and I've been catching haha man. I can't 221 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,930 believe you know the Matt Lee clip. This is another problem we 222 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:37,800 have which relates to your article The Matt Lee clip of him 223 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:48,300 braiding as it Jake, I guess about a week or or about about 224 00:13:49,050 --> 00:13:53,730 NATO moving closer to Russia. Turns out that was from 2019. I 225 00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:56,100 guess we'd missed that clip. Because if I if I hear a clip I 226 00:13:56,100 --> 00:14:00,030 usually detect that we played it before. But the internet is a 227 00:14:00,030 --> 00:14:03,120 cesspool. And all I'm seeing now so 228 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,180 John C Dvorak: you found that was for 2019 year must have been 229 00:14:06,210 --> 00:14:07,350 are very, very, 230 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:10,860 Adam Curry: very irksome. Yes, of course. Of course. That 231 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:11,550 happens. 232 00:14:11,580 --> 00:14:13,650 John C Dvorak: I didn't catch it either. I didn't know that there 233 00:14:13,650 --> 00:14:16,350 was an old clip we you know people shouldn't should be 234 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:19,320 careful like everyone so I get an old clip for someone I said 235 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,750 did you look at the date on that clip and then they get very 236 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:25,740 embarrassed. But yeah, it's that's a huge problem. 237 00:14:25,770 --> 00:14:28,230 Adam Curry: Like apparently, you know, Biden fell up the stairs 238 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:32,490 again, leaving Poland and people were sending me the old clip of 239 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:32,970 him following 240 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:38,340 John C Dvorak: that same old clip. Yeah. Anyway, we'll leave 241 00:14:38,340 --> 00:14:41,490 it did the one I saw recently and I don't know what it was. 242 00:14:41,490 --> 00:14:43,650 Nobody else seems to be able to identify the one who 243 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:47,520 Adam Curry: fell down from halfway down the stairs. That 244 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,040 was the back of the plane. So I must have been pressed as 245 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,240 different. I'm just saying it because I love everybody and I 246 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,930 see that you're you've been captured, and the more people I 247 00:14:57,930 --> 00:15:02,700 see who are yelling at you Yeah, you know, literally like Elon is 248 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:07,860 gonna save us Twitter files. No, no, no one's coming to save you. 249 00:15:09,210 --> 00:15:12,030 You know, and goldsworth We definitely have to talk about 250 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:16,020 Project Veritas. But I don't know if James O'Keefe is going 251 00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:19,860 to rise again and save all of you. The only thing that can 252 00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:22,950 save you is you and your community, probably best 253 00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:25,770 community you have is the no agenda show go to a meet up. 254 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,120 Because all of the rest is just it's really going downhill to 255 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,320 the to the fact where it's hard to even get anything from our 256 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,920 own media that is worthwhile. I'm not gonna clip something 257 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,800 about how Fox News is trying to take down CNN as the lead story 258 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,730 in primetime 20 minutes of Donald Lamont okay, very funny 259 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:50,970 the first time you said it, you know, this is this is this, 260 00:15:50,970 --> 00:15:52,230 these are the stories 261 00:15:53,190 --> 00:15:56,610 John C Dvorak: or this thing is getting a little a little old to 262 00:15:56,610 --> 00:16:01,440 Adam Curry: be lead story. So, I was like, Wow, all right. Enough 263 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,670 complaining i 264 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:04,710 John C Dvorak: It's only that was a good day. I was a lot of 265 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:06,060 complaining at the beginning. Yeah, 266 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:08,190 Adam Curry: I want to look out for everybody. I love everybody. 267 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:13,740 And I'm I'm kind of concerned about this. Blow me this. About 268 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:17,430 people listening. It's not good for you. It's not harmonious. it 269 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:21,120 hijacks your nervous system when you do this with a podcast. Now, 270 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:22,650 let's play a super 271 00:16:22,650 --> 00:16:26,610 John C Dvorak: card away since you mentioned him. You mentioned 272 00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:30,570 the pool man. I find I find that the definitive clip of em in a 273 00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:31,200 nutshell. 274 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,820 Adam Curry: Okay. And also, I think it's not a good idea for 275 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:37,920 shows to be bashing other shows. 276 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,530 John C Dvorak: I agree with that. But this is just a just 277 00:16:40,530 --> 00:16:45,870 Tim Poole in a nutshell ISO. Second together ISOs Oh, yeah, 278 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:46,680 Adam Curry: I got here we go. 279 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:48,750 Unknown: Now I'm gonna burst your bubble everybody. 280 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,270 Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Breaking up breaking breaking. 281 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:57,150 John C Dvorak: I let me listen to one of his shows because he 282 00:16:57,150 --> 00:17:00,720 was he went on one topic for like an hour. Did he bust your 283 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,410 bubble wild? 284 00:17:01,470 --> 00:17:02,340 Adam Curry: Do you bust your bubble? 285 00:17:02,849 --> 00:17:07,199 John C Dvorak: He says that phrase. Uh huh. At least once 286 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:08,429 every 15 minutes. 287 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:17,940 Adam Curry: I've got to bust your bubble, everybody. Here's a 288 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:23,940 supercut of your media. We're not talking about John Lamont of 289 00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:28,500 CNN. Here's how they talk about the very courageous President of 290 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,020 the United States of America. Joe Biden 291 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:34,110 Unknown: has put solidarity ahead of his own personal safety 292 00:17:34,140 --> 00:17:34,800 air raid 293 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,570 sirens and no real guarantee of security as air raid sirens 294 00:17:39,570 --> 00:17:40,200 blaring 295 00:17:40,290 --> 00:17:43,680 was incredibly dramatic. Andrea, it was historic as well 296 00:17:43,710 --> 00:17:44,490 historic, 297 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:48,090 timely, and brave, the first American President to go to a 298 00:17:48,090 --> 00:17:51,210 warzone. Though US military presence for security on the 299 00:17:51,210 --> 00:17:51,750 ground. 300 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 American presidents have made dramatic trips before Nixon to 301 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,480 China, Kennedy Reagan to the Berlin Wall and presidents have 302 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,330 visited US troops in war zones but never like this 303 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:04,140 to find a day of this kind of presidential bravery in a war 304 00:18:04,140 --> 00:18:04,590 zone. 305 00:18:04,830 --> 00:18:08,880 You've got to go all the way back to 1864. With Biden's trip 306 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:09,990 to Europe, you 307 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:13,830 know he is he is welcomed as not only the frankly the savior of 308 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:17,040 Ukraine, but also the savior of Europe as a whole is historic. 309 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:17,160 It's 310 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,170 the first time that a US president has gone into an 311 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,850 active war zone that the US military does not have control 312 00:18:23,850 --> 00:18:27,540 over and against all odds. It was successful. 313 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,720 The continuing threat quite literally sounding all around 314 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,530 the two leaders. 315 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,410 This guy's here are not safe. And in fact an air raid siren 316 00:18:34,410 --> 00:18:36,120 went off while President Biden 317 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:37,380 was here 318 00:18:37,410 --> 00:18:40,860 seeing the American President they're walking the streets of 319 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:44,550 tea while air raid sirens literally sounded in that 320 00:18:44,550 --> 00:18:48,840 moment. about possible incoming fire from Russia of the wail of 321 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,210 an air raid siren air raid sirens 322 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,510 wailing in the background, seemingly undeterred by an air 323 00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:56,130 raid siren undeterred, 324 00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:59,070 by the sound of air sirens, President Biden's ability 325 00:18:59,070 --> 00:19:00,390 with aviators on 326 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:04,320 broad daylight and keys, the swagger 327 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:08,640 of this trip, not just the execution of the secrecy, but 328 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,310 the swagger of it on display on the streets of Kyiv. 329 00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:13,950 Adam Curry: Oh man, just swagger, the swagger of it 330 00:19:13,979 --> 00:19:16,169 John C Dvorak: the guy can barely walk this and by the way, 331 00:19:16,169 --> 00:19:20,429 anybody who listen to any reasonable report on this said 332 00:19:20,429 --> 00:19:22,139 the Air Race Island was fake. 333 00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:26,160 Adam Curry: Completely phony hadn't been one for five days. 334 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:28,980 The minute he steps onto the streets, they they let it go 335 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:29,310 off. 336 00:19:29,729 --> 00:19:32,129 John C Dvorak: If this was Trump, all you do to hear the 337 00:19:32,129 --> 00:19:36,179 same eight holes that you just heard all talking about photo 338 00:19:36,179 --> 00:19:40,079 op, and we went in there for a photo op with a phony siren. 339 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:43,650 Adam Curry: Exactly. Now, it went even deeper, very 340 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:47,340 respectful people here on CNN, Doug Brinkley, what is it, what 341 00:19:47,340 --> 00:19:48,330 it what it reminds you have 342 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:50,940 Unknown: Doug, who as our resident historian here placed 343 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:53,940 this in the context in the pantheon of presidential visits 344 00:19:53,940 --> 00:19:54,060 to 345 00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,310 Adam Curry: place this in the context of the pantheon of 346 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:59,850 presidential visits. warzones presidents have visited Iraq and 347 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:02,220 have You understand in recent years, but those were US wars. 348 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:06,030 This is a Ukrainian war. I love this. It was a US war. This is 349 00:20:06,030 --> 00:20:07,860 Ukrainian. We have nothing to do with this. 350 00:20:08,010 --> 00:20:09,510 John C Dvorak: There's nothing to do. 351 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,480 Adam Curry: There's no US soldiers involved anywhere. No 352 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,410 advisors, no one, no one, no training, nothing. I mean, we're 353 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:19,620 not in control of this area at all our weapons, but we're not 354 00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:22,410 in control. No US military presence on the ground, how 355 00:20:22,410 --> 00:20:24,750 significant. It's extremely 356 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:27,870 John C Dvorak: significant. The United States is wedded more to 357 00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:31,890 the Ukraine than ever before. I go back to history and think of 358 00:20:31,890 --> 00:20:33,210 Roosevelt and Churchill, 359 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,910 Adam Curry: I love a guy who's a historian who says the Ukraine, 360 00:20:36,270 --> 00:20:38,970 that's it that always makes me feel like the guy's a good 361 00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:39,600 historian 362 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:43,170 John C Dvorak: to the Ukraine than ever before. I go back to 363 00:20:43,170 --> 00:20:46,770 history and think of Roosevelt and Churchill, when FDR had to 364 00:20:46,770 --> 00:20:49,890 sneak off in the dead of night even had a body double at one 365 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:53,370 point to first meet Winston Churchill, off the coast of 366 00:20:53,370 --> 00:20:55,770 Newfoundland. And then of course, you had all those World 367 00:20:55,770 --> 00:20:56,910 War Two found 368 00:20:57,330 --> 00:21:02,130 Adam Curry: newfound land. Even I would say Newfoundland, but 369 00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:04,350 now newfound land off the coast 370 00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:06,330 John C Dvorak: of Newfoundland. And then of course, you had all 371 00:21:06,330 --> 00:21:10,530 those world war two meetings between Churchill, it's worth 372 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,800 mentioning Churchill, co Solinsky, has been called the 373 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,360 Church of Our generation by going there today, I think it's 374 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:22,650 going to be a moment and for the history books, when John F. 375 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:27,180 Kennedy went to Berlin, on 1961, and gave a speech at the height 376 00:21:27,210 --> 00:21:30,870 of the Cold War, Ukraine is the new Berlin, it's the rallying 377 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:36,630 point for NATO in the Western Allies. And I think Biden did 378 00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:37,440 something really 379 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:39,570 Adam Curry: heroic. It's the new Berlin, 380 00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:41,160 John C Dvorak: take down that wall. 381 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,070 Adam Curry: It's got to be something like well, actually, 382 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:49,110 Putin, President Putin had a speech he addressed the nation, 383 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:53,730 I guess he addressed the his, his military and all the muckety 384 00:21:53,730 --> 00:21:58,230 mucks. He does that several times a year. And it was about 385 00:21:58,230 --> 00:22:00,570 an hour and a half. And that were a couple of translated 386 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:05,580 versions. I picked a clip from what I thought was a lady who 387 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:08,790 did a just a great job on translating, I love for nuances 388 00:22:09,030 --> 00:22:12,810 Unknown: want to create conflict situations, situations at our 389 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:17,370 borders, by new European do the same pattern all along in the 390 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:23,100 whole 20th century. It's to when you where you turn any form of 391 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:31,290 action against Russia, we are not waging war with the Ukraine, 392 00:22:31,290 --> 00:22:35,700 as we know that they are in a hostage situation. They have 393 00:22:35,730 --> 00:22:40,350 been politically and militarily occupied by the Westerners. 394 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:51,000 Cranium. Industry, a natural riches were plundered, and it's 395 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:57,450 led to social degradation. And we just, it's really not 396 00:22:57,450 --> 00:23:04,320 difficult to see why military actions have to be launched bgn 397 00:23:04,410 --> 00:23:11,280 it was all with the perfect pad. The idea was to turn them into a 398 00:23:13,650 --> 00:23:24,060 pool conditioner. And this the responsibility of the Western 399 00:23:24,090 --> 00:23:29,340 elites of military elites of lots of foreigners to the 400 00:23:29,340 --> 00:23:34,800 Ukrainian regime down not trying to support the interest of the 401 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,160 Ukrainian people. They are dressed using this as 402 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:50,010 they want to take it. They have launched new offensives. 403 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,890 Adam Curry: All right. So this is kind of the story we know. 404 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:55,800 And I and it was interesting that Putin says, Well, you know, 405 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,970 they're in a hostage situation, we have to, we have to go save 406 00:23:59,970 --> 00:24:07,440 them. As if coordinated. Former President Trump clearly a puppet 407 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:14,490 for Putin, from his new Trump club. 47. Always a marketing man 408 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:16,200 that said this, 409 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,140 Unknown: World War Three has never been closer than it is 410 00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:23,310 right now. We need to clean house of all of the war mongers 411 00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:27,690 and America last globalist and the deep state, the Pentagon, 412 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,440 the State Department and the National Security industrial 413 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,100 complex. One of the reasons I was the only president in 414 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:38,670 generations who didn't start a war is that I was the only 415 00:24:38,670 --> 00:24:42,720 president who rejected the catastrophic advice of many of 416 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Washington's generals, bureaucrats and the so called 417 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,730 diplomats who only know how to get us into conflict, but they 418 00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:54,450 don't know how to get us out. For decades, we've had the very 419 00:24:54,450 --> 00:24:59,370 same people such as Victoria Nuland, and many others just 420 00:24:59,370 --> 00:25:03,870 like her up faced with pushing Ukraine toward NATO, not to 421 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:07,320 mention the State Department support for uprisings in 422 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,550 Ukraine. These people have been seeking confrontation for a long 423 00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:16,290 time, much like the case in Iraq than other parts of the world. 424 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:20,670 And now, we're teetering on the brink of world war three. And a 425 00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:23,580 lot of people don't see it, but I see it. And I've been right 426 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:26,790 about a lot of things. They all say Trump's been right about 427 00:25:26,790 --> 00:25:30,480 everything, all of them, none of this excuses in any way, the 428 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,820 outrageous and horrible invasion of Ukraine one year ago, which 429 00:25:35,820 --> 00:25:39,390 would have never happened if I was your president, not even a 430 00:25:39,390 --> 00:25:40,350 little chance. 431 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,200 Adam Curry: So a very interesting what he says there, 432 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,200 at least, let's take those two things together at Deutsche 433 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,720 Avella, you know, we have to go outside of our own borders to 434 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,780 get any kind of media to deconstruct or that's even worth 435 00:25:54,780 --> 00:25:59,040 playing. Because it's about Dungloe mom, Deutsche Avella, 436 00:25:59,370 --> 00:26:04,830 did a report on where most of the Ukrainians fled to. Now this 437 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:09,120 was eye opening. Because I think it's five or 7 million people 438 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,330 have fled Ukraine. We know that many of them have gone to 439 00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:16,110 Europe. But let's really find out where most people fled from 440 00:26:16,110 --> 00:26:17,520 Ukraine and where they went to. 441 00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:21,720 Unknown: The United Nations says that since the invasion last 442 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,860 February, more than 8 million Ukrainians have left their 443 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,540 homeland. So where are they now let's take a look at the map. It 444 00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:34,620 may surprise you. Top of the list, believe it or not, Russia, 445 00:26:34,650 --> 00:26:40,170 it has taken in 2.8 5 million new grads. That's the number 446 00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:43,470 that have crossed the border since last February, after 447 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,950 Russia, Poland. It's a very supportive neighbor of Ukraine, 448 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:49,830 which we've reported on numerous times it has seen an influx of 449 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:54,090 more than one and a half million Ukrainians in the past year. And 450 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:57,630 then right here in Germany, more than 1 million Ukrainians have 451 00:26:57,630 --> 00:27:01,560 arrived here since the war began the capital Berlin where we are 452 00:27:01,770 --> 00:27:06,990 has registered more than 100,000 Ukrainians. Then there is the 453 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:10,380 Czech Republic, which is taken in and you see right there 454 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:15,270 500,000 Ukrainians, they've sought refuge there that is the 455 00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:21,270 equivalent of about 5% of that country's population. These are 456 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:24,030 big numbers, big movements of people. 457 00:27:24,419 --> 00:27:26,729 Adam Curry: Yeah, who would have known almost 3 million went to 458 00:27:26,729 --> 00:27:29,969 Russia, because you know, they hate Russia. 459 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,250 John C Dvorak: Well, you have to assume those are the Donbass 460 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:38,850 people, because a lot of them, a lot of which are Russians base 461 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,700 didn't there's a lot of Russians in Ukraine, a lot of Ukrainians 462 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:42,990 in Russia. Oh, 463 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Adam Curry: I'm a little unclear about where we're sending all of 464 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,450 these weapons. 465 00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:51,660 John C Dvorak: Oh, but some of them are probably going to 466 00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:56,700 Somali, the Ukrainians were going to other parts of Africa 467 00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,880 via Ukraine, and I'm sure they who knows what's going on with 468 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,130 the bullets. I mean, they're supposed to be this way where I 469 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:05,250 was listening to one report. Well, it's an artillery war is 470 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:07,830 what is artillery wood there? What's the need for all these 471 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:08,520 bullets? 472 00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:11,610 Adam Curry: I mean, this is France 24. There on the Eastern 473 00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:13,230 Front, surprising report. 474 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:17,070 Unknown: We just back from the eastern front line in this 475 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:21,960 ongoing and intense conflict. And the situation there remains 476 00:28:22,290 --> 00:28:26,490 very difficult indeed, our team was in the trenches alongside 477 00:28:26,490 --> 00:28:31,020 Ukrainian soldiers operating an artillery unit, the material 478 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:34,290 dated from the 1970s to Viet union. 479 00:28:35,219 --> 00:28:39,779 Adam Curry: How come they're using 1970 stuff? Didn't we say 480 00:28:39,809 --> 00:28:42,269 this is the front line? Right? Yeah, the 481 00:28:42,270 --> 00:28:44,430 John C Dvorak: front line should have are a good stuff, how come 482 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:46,650 are the 1970s style stuff, 483 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,260 Unknown: and they say they are struggling to get enough 484 00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:52,200 ammunition for that they're worried about that, as they head 485 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,710 forward into spring and into the summer when they would hope to 486 00:28:55,710 --> 00:29:00,180 be going on the offensive at the moment. They're trying to hold 487 00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:04,920 the Ukrainian line in the face of waves and waves of Russian 488 00:29:05,070 --> 00:29:09,210 soldiers men advancing, which they see with drone technology. 489 00:29:09,630 --> 00:29:13,200 So that push very much underway, they say, and they are firing 490 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,580 1000s of cells every day to try and hold the line. 491 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,980 Adam Curry: None of this makes sense. 492 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:22,920 John C Dvorak: Know that what you just said if you start to 493 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:29,580 think about it, there's only one real front line. Which is that 494 00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:33,210 where she was? Yeah. And they don't ask where all our stuff 495 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:35,760 should be where where's our stuff? As you said 496 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,620 Adam Curry: in Africa? Uh, yeah. It's, it's already moving down. 497 00:29:40,650 --> 00:29:43,350 I mean, the mercenaries from what I understand are already 498 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:46,530 moving down to Africa getting ready for the next confrontation 499 00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:46,650 and 500 00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:48,210 John C Dvorak: action going to take place in Africa. I 501 00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:50,460 Adam Curry: think you have to bite us right? That's right. 502 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,360 John C Dvorak: Here's a couple of clips from die. You made this 503 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,790 comment earlier. You have to go out of the country to get a 504 00:29:56,790 --> 00:30:02,280 news. Pretty much all my clips today are from China. some 505 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,860 podcasts in NHK lot of na 506 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,530 Adam Curry: TAS I hope we listened to them real fast. 507 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:13,290 John C Dvorak: I do always listen to 1.75 Ooh, nice. Sounds 508 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:17,670 like they all sound like Trini Lopez. So if I had a hammer 509 00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:22,050 there's a reference. Nobody got it. I got it. Yeah, you would 510 00:30:22,050 --> 00:30:26,790 get a job in Ukraine. China kvetching NHK. 511 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,470 Unknown: China's Foreign Minister says 512 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,250 certain countries should stop fueling the fire in the Ukraine 513 00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:36,090 conflict. Shingon was apparently referring to the US and its 514 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:38,910 allies don't want to tumble which China 515 00:30:38,910 --> 00:30:42,210 is deeply worried about the conflict could spiral out of 516 00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:42,840 control. 517 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:47,100 Chen was speaking to stay in Beijing. This comes after 518 00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:51,030 Washington issued its own warning to Beijing. US Secretary 519 00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:54,240 of State Antony Blinken on Saturday told China's top 520 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,930 diplomat one way that he's concerned Beijing may provide 521 00:30:57,930 --> 00:31:01,680 lethal support to Russia. Beijing had bagged by saying 522 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,160 it's the US and not China that's been sending weapons to the 523 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,960 battlefield in Ukraine. 524 00:31:07,889 --> 00:31:11,219 Adam Curry: Yeah, this this is now a narrative that I'm hearing 525 00:31:11,249 --> 00:31:16,649 in the US media in the Western media is Oh, China. So now 526 00:31:16,649 --> 00:31:20,699 they're and that's exactly how they do it. What China? They're 527 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:25,290 John C Dvorak: really this pronunciation of Bae Jin Zhen is 528 00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:26,010 Adam Curry: new for me. 529 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,350 John C Dvorak: I've never heard it before, but that's what 530 00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:31,050 they're calling it. That just reminds me to Turkey. Ah, 531 00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:33,330 Turkey. Turkey. 532 00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:35,160 Adam Curry: Let me go ahead. 533 00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:37,350 John C Dvorak: Maybe we're gonna just start calling it Bae Jin 534 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:42,090 Adam Curry: Jin, I like Beijing. I left my chin in obey Jin. 535 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,620 Here's Meet the Press with Chip chip. Chuck Chuck Todd Gregory 536 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,020 with Antony Blinken bringing in the Chinese 537 00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:52,230 Unknown: this concern that China is considering belief of 538 00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:56,940 potential lethal aid in this war to Russia. What evidence can you 539 00:31:56,940 --> 00:32:00,510 share with us? That indicates your concern that they're going 540 00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:03,180 to escalate their help to Russia, as you said they've been 541 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:06,120 helping them rhetorically. They've been helping them maybe 542 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,990 by buying cheap oil. But what is the other evidence that you have 543 00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:13,800 here that they're thinking about doing more? Well, China's having 544 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:18,180 tried to have it both ways, publicly present themselves. 545 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:20,460 Adam Curry: China's gonna have it both ways. There. There 546 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:24,090 really is this smokin hot these Chinese man, China's having 547 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,110 tried to have it both ways. Publicly, they present 548 00:32:28,110 --> 00:32:32,760 themselves as a country striving for for peace in Ukraine. But 549 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,840 privately, as I said, we've seen already over these these past 550 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,470 months, the provision of non lethal assistance that does go 551 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:45,000 directly to aiding and abetting Russia's war effort. And that 552 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,290 indicates that they are strongly considering providing lethal 553 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,810 assistance to Russia. That what a bullshit answer. Well, the 554 00:32:54,810 --> 00:32:58,950 historically indicating it, can you maybe explain how 555 00:32:58,980 --> 00:33:02,160 Unknown: this concern that China is considering belief, the 556 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,120 potential lethal aid potential in this war to Russia? What 557 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,590 evidence can you share? Wait, is that the 558 00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:11,400 Adam Curry: same clip I just played? sounds the same as it is 559 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:21,060 thus? The same one I just played second 5252 5050 to 560 00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:25,740 Unknown: this concern, publicly, they present 561 00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:29,670 Adam Curry: the same clip. Sorry about that. Anyway, there you 562 00:33:29,670 --> 00:33:35,910 go. It has no proof. He's just saying it. No, you know, is 563 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:40,050 there they're considering I'd put a lethal age. Mark my words 564 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,250 on a Blinken. 565 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:43,530 John C Dvorak: But we're doing lethal aid. 566 00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:50,670 Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. Now the United Nations. They're, they're 567 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,720 dead. They don't want this United Nations is figuring out 568 00:33:54,810 --> 00:33:59,520 that the US I would have to say we are bad actors here. And that 569 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,770 we have effectively cut off Europe's supply of of energy for 570 00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:09,630 Germany to create stuff. And everyone's kind of 571 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:10,680 John C Dvorak: big for their britches. 572 00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:11,430 Adam Curry: Yes, 573 00:34:11,459 --> 00:34:14,909 John C Dvorak: we are. Everyone's not us. Germany was 574 00:34:14,999 --> 00:34:20,249 Oh, yeah. Well, it depends on what we have to do is make it a 575 00:34:20,249 --> 00:34:22,769 little more difficult or at least get a piece of the action. 576 00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:22,859 It 577 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:25,080 Adam Curry: was well, we didn't get a piece of the action. We 578 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,900 blowed it all up. And now the United Nations is trying to 579 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,860 figure out how we can bring peace. The language 580 00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:35,130 Unknown: of the new resolution is one of urgency. It is also 581 00:34:35,130 --> 00:34:38,880 carefully formulated in general terms, aiming to garner as much 582 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,600 support as possible. The text drafted by Ukraine with help 583 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,350 from allies underscores the urgency to find a comprehensive, 584 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:50,010 just and lasting peace. It also demands a cessation of 585 00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:54,300 hostilities, not a ceasefire and an unconditional and complete 586 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,330 withdrawal of Russian forces from the territory of Ukraine 587 00:34:57,510 --> 00:35:00,870 within its internationally recognized borders. including 588 00:35:00,870 --> 00:35:05,010 the four regions unilaterally annexed by Russia last year. But 589 00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:08,670 it makes no direct reference to President Volodymyr Zelensky 10 590 00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:12,120 Point peace plan presented at the G 20. summit in November. 591 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,380 The aim is to make it more difficult not to back the text 592 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:20,190 to previous resolutions over the past year were adopted with an 593 00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:24,600 overwhelming majority. However, Russia did find support from its 594 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,900 friends and allies, the first one in March, condemning 595 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:31,110 Russia's invasion and demanding an immediate end to its military 596 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:35,700 operations. So five countries voting against Russia, Belarus, 597 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:41,910 North Korea, Eritrea and Syria 35 others abstained mostly in 598 00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:46,320 Asia and Africa. resolution adopted in the wake of Russia's 599 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,470 illegal annexation of four regions in eastern Ukraine. 600 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,360 Again, so five votes against and 35 Abstentions. This time 601 00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:58,320 Eritrea abstained instead of voting no, while Nicaragua 602 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,490 joined the new camp. Once again, a majority of abstentions came 603 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:05,310 from Africa, where many countries rely on Russia and 604 00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:09,780 grain exports. Alongside China and India. Two big buyers of 605 00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:15,120 Russian oil. Turkey, meanwhile, approved both resolutions. This 606 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,680 week. 191 members are eligible to vote with Lebanon and 607 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,670 Venezuela temporarily suspended due to arrears in the payment of 608 00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:25,290 their financial contributions. 609 00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:27,900 Adam Curry: I didn't know that if you didn't pay your dues. You 610 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:34,170 don't get to vote. I mean, it sounds fair. But Hello. That's 611 00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:38,550 kind of odd. How much in arrears are they? Well, these votes are 612 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:41,790 useless. Yeah, but the sending message people they don't want 613 00:36:41,790 --> 00:36:47,340 it they don't really want it. For France 24 Then you getting 614 00:36:47,340 --> 00:36:51,570 so much the reporting slanted or not? At least they're they're 615 00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:56,550 reporting kind of on instead of these. Hi, Jackie, click click 616 00:36:56,550 --> 00:37:02,940 baity headlines from from the US media. And this is France 24. 617 00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:05,940 You know as Biden is promising a lot now he's been a lot of money 618 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:08,340 being promised. I love this reporters gaff 619 00:37:08,399 --> 00:37:10,889 Unknown: we just heard there from David that Joe Biden is now 620 00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:15,059 heading to Poland. What do we expect from his trip? There are 621 00:37:15,089 --> 00:37:19,379 a few things. A little overlooked. Poland is hoping 622 00:37:19,409 --> 00:37:22,319 that this visit from Bowdoin I met Joe Biden will. 623 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,110 Adam Curry: Bow Jaiden Thank you, thank you no agenda show 624 00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:32,730 creeping into her nervous system 625 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,540 Unknown: is hoping that this visit from Bowdoin I met divided 626 00:37:36,540 --> 00:37:42,390 will underline that the US is 100% behind Poland and that 627 00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:47,250 Eastern Flank of NATO because it really matters for investors who 628 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,890 are going to get cold feet about investing in Poland. So 629 00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:53,220 Adam Curry: we're gonna be rebuilding a straightforward, 630 00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:54,360 the image 631 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,120 Unknown: of Joe Biden saying We pledge whatever it takes for 632 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,420 Ukraine. And that strong image is very important to Poland. 633 00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:05,280 Beyond that the Polish are keen to try to persuade a Biden to 634 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,140 push this idea of some sort of partnership, guaranteeing 635 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:13,860 security for Ukraine after the war. Now, NATO membership itself 636 00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:17,100 is of course, much more complicated. The Polish have in 637 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,920 mind something along the lines of the partnership between the 638 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,290 US and Israel, where there is a commitment to stand by Israel. 639 00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:27,870 And so they're pushing that idea 640 00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:33,300 Adam Curry: like Israel. That's an interesting analogy. Make it 641 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:38,190 like Israel. I thought that was like what? 642 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:43,410 John C Dvorak: It's kind of it's funny, the polling suggests that 643 00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:47,670 because polling in Israel are at odds, I would say, some has no 644 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:51,690 they are I mean, it's historical study. I get a visa. Yeah. It to 645 00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:54,840 a back and forth a poll that used to be wide open. You didn't 646 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,690 need a visa, but they've locked that down. And it has a lot to 647 00:38:57,690 --> 00:39:01,680 do with the Israeli lobby. Well, they're still pissed at Poland 648 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,520 for World War Two. 649 00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:04,680 Adam Curry: Well, if you'll remember everyone's all lovey 650 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:10,860 dovey right now with Poland but there were entire Senate 651 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,710 meetings over sanctioning Poland because they hadn't apologized. 652 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:18,960 Remember that? 653 00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:24,840 John C Dvorak: Vaguely Yeah, let me see. Can you remember again 654 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,420 let's play this one this is another little aspect is another 655 00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:30,660 dimension to this war, which is now the START treaty. So we're 656 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,810 gonna show this is a good news for you guys who are building 657 00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:38,550 these expensive bombs START Treaty then. This is an 658 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:42,660 interesting clip because it's a NHK again, and they go from one 659 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:44,610 topic to another very seamlessly. 660 00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:47,040 Unknown: Russia's parliament approved the suspension of the 661 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,190 remaining nuclear arms control treaty. It had signed with the 662 00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:54,270 United States purge and had announced on Tuesday, Moscow was 663 00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:57,300 halting its participation in the New START Treaty. 664 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,410 That is Western nations. that started the war and we 665 00:40:01,530 --> 00:40:05,640 supposedly are using our force to stop with your estimated 666 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:08,160 plastron leaders rejected Putin's claim. 667 00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:15,030 Nobody is attacking Russia. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine 668 00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:16,890 is the victim of aggression. 669 00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:21,450 Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia. Our support for 670 00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:23,070 Ukraine will not waver. 671 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,570 They're digging in their heels as the war continues and causes 672 00:40:27,570 --> 00:40:31,560 more and more casualties. Putin spoke at a rally in Moscow State 673 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,310 in a Moscow stadium and called for national unity. Russian 674 00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:39,390 media reports say about 200,000 government supporters attended 675 00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:39,900 the rally. 676 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,480 John C Dvorak: I liked the way they phrased that one. That's a 677 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,610 good little deconstruction there. So Putin did a Trump leg 678 00:40:50,610 --> 00:40:57,210 rally in a stadium. And he got 200,000 people to show up. They 679 00:40:57,210 --> 00:41:01,440 forced them at gunpoint, obviously. So they they make it 680 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,240 sound they say they call it government supporters, not Putin 681 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,150 supporters, or just now that is a good phrasing, isn't it? 682 00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,620 Russians want to want to see the guy because he's not normally 683 00:41:13,650 --> 00:41:17,430 you don't see him that often. But it was a Modi side, Modi 684 00:41:17,490 --> 00:41:19,200 could get these kinds of crowds. Oh, 685 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,610 Adam Curry: you got your number outs? Yeah. 686 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,250 John C Dvorak: When Trump visited Modi in India, he said, 687 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:26,520 Oh, man, I wish I could get crowds like this. Well, Putin 688 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:31,500 can. And he, and they downplay it as government support just a 689 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,830 bunch of people given the day off, I guess, and it's got to go 690 00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:36,750 to this stadium. Now one 691 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:41,160 Adam Curry: of the countries in the EU that has trying to avoid 692 00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:46,380 getting wrapped up in all of this is Hungary. Hungary is has 693 00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:51,060 been very ugly stepchild of the of the EU rejecting vaccine 694 00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:54,660 mandates rejecting the thing, even the Pfizer is on track of 695 00:41:54,660 --> 00:42:00,120 immigrants, literally saying, we want to keep our country with a 696 00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:03,780 with our Christian, or what do they say? Their their, their 697 00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:06,000 Christian values? Not quite sure exactly. What the phrase 698 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,210 something like that is about that. Yeah, it's about Yeah, 699 00:42:09,210 --> 00:42:11,700 it's about they don't want Muslim immigrants. And 700 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:14,070 certainly, would they say they're not immigrants, if you 701 00:42:14,070 --> 00:42:17,430 if you want to immigrate into our country, there's ways to do 702 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:20,070 it just walking across the border, you're not an immigrant, 703 00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:22,170 you know, the kind of stuff you might say about a sovereign 704 00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:27,240 country? Which is rare. Yes. And so the problem, is there a 705 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:32,190 problem. And this and I want you to pay close attention, slow it 706 00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:35,220 down to one to one time speed, everybody, you're going to need 707 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:38,010 to hear it in real time so you can hear the nuance of evil. 708 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:40,890 This is Samantha Power. 709 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,860 Unknown: As USAID Administrator, I have the chance to travel all 710 00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:47,640 around the world to engage with people who are working every day 711 00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:50,160 to strengthen democratic institutions to build 712 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,040 independent media, and to promote and protect human 713 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,270 rights. I'm here in Hungary, one of the countries in Central 714 00:42:57,270 --> 00:43:01,890 Europe, where USAID has recently relaunched programming to tackle 715 00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:05,070 just these challenges. I'm gonna spend the next couple days 716 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:08,700 engaging with Hungarians about their vision for a brighter 717 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:09,240 future. 718 00:43:09,779 --> 00:43:12,479 Adam Curry: Regime Change incoming color revolution 719 00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:15,060 John C Dvorak: USA IDs gone in there. Is that what she says? 720 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:15,300 She's 721 00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:18,090 Adam Curry: now she's now the administrator of USA ID. 722 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,110 John C Dvorak: Oh, that's that's the that's the jackals that were 723 00:43:22,110 --> 00:43:29,100 B. Yes. And I love the the book, Confessions of an economic 724 00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,970 hitman, which new listeners don't know, we went on, we were 725 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:35,490 pushing this book for a long time. It's a good book to read 726 00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:37,650 Adam Curry: the original, the original, not until they got to 727 00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:39,450 him. The second, not 728 00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:43,140 John C Dvorak: as good. It talks about how this works. And USA 729 00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:44,700 ideas a big part? Well, here's 730 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,140 Adam Curry: my favorite little snippet in here. 731 00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:49,170 Unknown: I travel all around the world to engage with people who 732 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:51,690 are working every day to strengthen democratic 733 00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:54,120 institutions to build independent media 734 00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:56,880 Adam Curry: to build independent media that's independent. I 735 00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:58,350 mean, she right there. 736 00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:01,680 John C Dvorak: That's the one US propaganda sources. 737 00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:05,700 Adam Curry: I hate to be so anti us, but holy crap, we are Dixon, 738 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:06,090 this 739 00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,060 John C Dvorak: was some of these people. Our problem is not the 740 00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:10,710 US itself. No, thank 741 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:11,160 Adam Curry: you, that makes 742 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,400 John C Dvorak: people if he's the those woman, 743 00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:16,110 Adam Curry: that woman specifically, 744 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,820 John C Dvorak: specifically Nudelman the other one Oh, man. 745 00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:24,240 Adam Curry: Yeah. And you know, and I went around looking 746 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:27,870 because I keep hearing or keep reading. You know, well, Putin 747 00:44:27,870 --> 00:44:32,280 wants to rebuild the Russian Empire. And you go looking for a 748 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,590 source. And the only people who say this are Ukrainians. That's 749 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:40,080 all I get. It's like did when did Putin say he wants to 750 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,990 rebuild the Russian Empire or the Soviet empire? And you 751 00:44:42,990 --> 00:44:47,280 always get back, according to a Ukrainian official, or, you 752 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,640 know, or an American official, but I've not actually if someone 753 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,330 could send it to me, I'd love to have it. I'd love to to have a 754 00:44:54,330 --> 00:44:57,720 clip or anything or even a written statement. I'll accept 755 00:44:58,230 --> 00:45:01,530 that Putin saying he wants to read store the Russian Empire 756 00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:06,150 back to its imperial glory. I mean, as far as I can tell, 757 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:09,480 that's just a lie. Surprise. 758 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:11,730 John C Dvorak: It's an extrapolation of some things he 759 00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:16,980 said. He said, You know, it was the glory days or something. He 760 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:21,630 made some Jew references. He never said it was good. rapidly 761 00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:26,130 from his wife. He said that that he means this. That's our boys 762 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,150 at work now. Well, 763 00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:29,640 Adam Curry: our boys do do good job. But they should just 764 00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:35,490 propagandize other people stop doing it to us. Yeah, I do have 765 00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:41,370 something on this. Let me see on the START treaty, from actually 766 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,980 let's just play these two clips. Here we have this is a CBS 767 00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:47,790 Evening News, Ed O'Keefe Biden reassuring our NATO 768 00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:52,800 Unknown: President Biden today sought to assure the eastern 769 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,740 most members of NATO that the US would stand with them in the 770 00:45:55,740 --> 00:45:57,690 event of a Russian invasion, you're the 771 00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:01,200 frontlines of our collective defense. And you're no better 772 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,550 than anyone. What's at stake in this conflict, not just for 773 00:46:05,550 --> 00:46:09,660 Ukraine, but for the freedom democracies throughout Europe 774 00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:11,010 and around the world freedom. The 775 00:46:11,010 --> 00:46:14,970 meeting kept a trip that began in session in Kyiv, designed to 776 00:46:14,970 --> 00:46:18,930 reiterate American support for Ukraine, but it ended as a 777 00:46:18,930 --> 00:46:22,440 barrage of Russian missiles hit the northeastern city of Harkey, 778 00:46:22,890 --> 00:46:29,310 the war raging on in Moscow President Vladimir Putin rally 779 00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:32,670 the large flag waving crowd praising courageous Russian 780 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:35,910 soldiers, making no mention of mountain casualties. 781 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:37,860 Adam Curry: Why didn't you say government workers 782 00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:42,690 Unknown: who's also held talks with China's top envoy one year, 783 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:45,900 US officials voiced concern this week the Chinese could supply 784 00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,840 lethal military aid to the Russian army, we've made very 785 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,300 clear to them that that would cause a serious problem for us. 786 00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:53,190 Both countries 787 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:55,830 Adam Curry: this this thing is sweet and beautifully. I mean, 788 00:46:55,830 --> 00:46:58,410 you don't need to see video with this report it clear to them 789 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,180 that that would cause a serious problem for us. 790 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,720 Unknown: Both countries flex their military might today and 791 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:07,860 drills off the South African coast. The US officials 792 00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:10,830 criticized Putin's decision Tuesday to suspend participation 793 00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:13,230 in the last remaining nuclear arms treaty between the two 794 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:17,640 countries asked about it today. President Biden had this to say 795 00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:22,260 Adam Curry: I can't even understand what he said on that 796 00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:22,710 report. 797 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,870 John C Dvorak: That was a big mistake. Oh, big 798 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:26,820 Adam Curry: mistake. Well, there's a continuation about the 799 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:27,540 START treaty, 800 00:47:27,570 --> 00:47:30,480 Unknown: that arms treaty caps the number of nuclear warheads 801 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,750 the US and Russia can have and allows for mutual inspection of 802 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:36,450 each other's programs. But the inspections were stopped during 803 00:47:36,450 --> 00:47:39,450 the pandemic. So suspending them further would mean the US would 804 00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:42,480 know even less about Russia's nuclear capabilities and 805 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,380 intentions 806 00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:46,620 John C Dvorak: and intentions and intentions. Why don't they 807 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:50,790 go? recited? We're the ones who cut the deal off. Was it him? 808 00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:51,630 Was it Putin? 809 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,230 Adam Curry: And it was suspended? Not not not don not, 810 00:47:55,740 --> 00:47:59,250 you know, not ended. It's suspended. I'm 811 00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:01,350 John C Dvorak: talking to Putin until he gets out of Ukraine. 812 00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:03,840 Adam Curry: That's right. That's right. Well, right. 813 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,400 John C Dvorak: Well, I don't have any more on Ukraine. 814 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,490 Adam Curry: The only thing I have is one of our Dutch 815 00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:13,770 producers. Young Vilem, he did a pretty good breakdown of Euro, 816 00:48:13,770 --> 00:48:18,690 just the euro. Just this is what Queen Ursula has put together to 817 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,120 to I guess, to convict Putin. And it's really just a desk 818 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:29,460 somewhere within the joint investigation team. But now it's 819 00:48:30,570 --> 00:48:33,720 a statement here from Ursula Russia must be held accountable 820 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:37,500 in courts for its odious crimes. Prosecutors from Ukraine and the 821 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:39,690 European Union are already working together. We are 822 00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:42,930 collecting evidence. As a first step, I am pleased to announce 823 00:48:42,930 --> 00:48:45,990 that an international center for the prosecution of the crime of 824 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:52,680 aggression, which is new, which is also is the ICPC Okay, so 825 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,800 it's a new thing we can sign on to the crime of aggression. Yes, 826 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,980 the International Center for the prosecution of the crime of 827 00:48:58,980 --> 00:48:59,670 aggression. 828 00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:03,510 John C Dvorak: Aggressive is a crock and odd during the Bush 829 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:05,250 administration may qualify. 830 00:49:05,580 --> 00:49:07,650 Adam Curry: Well, you can't do that after the fact. 831 00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:13,710 John C Dvorak: You can they can shrug promising to do it after 832 00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:14,340 the fact. 833 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,220 Adam Curry: This will be set up in The Hague, of course, the 834 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:19,500 center will coordinate the collection of evidence it will 835 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:21,930 be embedded in the joint investigation team which is 836 00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:25,470 supported by our agency Euro just we'll be there which is 837 00:49:25,770 --> 00:49:30,480 your which is the new EU police force. Come on people. We'll be 838 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,050 ready to launch work very rapidly with Euro just with 839 00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:36,840 Ukraine with the partners of our joint investigation team as well 840 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,720 as the Netherlands. Yes, the perpetrator must be held 841 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,410 accountable. And through all this, this is almost like a 842 00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:47,910 Dutch or an EU Patriot Act. You're gonna get police secret 843 00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:52,740 police. You now because you accrue for crimes of aggression. 844 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:58,890 They come after anybody. It's also obvious 845 00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:02,700 John C Dvorak: My mother had been working on this for a 846 00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:07,530 while, for a long time. Yeah, didn't know the health rules are 847 00:50:07,530 --> 00:50:10,740 gonna get where they could shoot you if you refuse to get a 848 00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:13,170 vaccination or Cindy was some law that 849 00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:16,050 Adam Curry: passed. No, no, no, it was it's in the protocols of 850 00:50:16,050 --> 00:50:18,780 the Lisbon Treaty. And it's two separate things. One as you can 851 00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:22,050 be arrested if you have a communicable disease anywhere in 852 00:50:22,050 --> 00:50:25,560 the EU, and the second if you are running away from law 853 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,650 enforcement and they shoot you in the back, it's legal to legal 854 00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:29,100 kill. 855 00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:32,910 John C Dvorak: All right, that was it. Yes. Running. That's not 856 00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:33,300 good. I 857 00:50:33,419 --> 00:50:35,909 Adam Curry: got a note from one of our producers about some of 858 00:50:35,909 --> 00:50:42,209 the influx of Ukrainian refugees. Our producer lives in 859 00:50:42,209 --> 00:50:47,489 Croatia. Ukrainians increased rental prices in Zagreb, to 860 00:50:47,489 --> 00:50:51,359 about twice to what they were. Here's how it works. They post 861 00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:55,289 an ad on Facebook, quote, woman with two kids looking for an 862 00:50:55,289 --> 00:50:59,879 apartment in Zagreb two bedrooms 800 euros. Next day, all two 863 00:50:59,879 --> 00:51:03,839 bedroom apartments are 800 euros and more, which is about the 864 00:51:03,899 --> 00:51:08,489 amount of money that the state is giving to these refugees. 800 865 00:51:08,489 --> 00:51:15,269 euros. So now, the rent is doubled everywhere because of 866 00:51:15,269 --> 00:51:19,709 this, of what how this has been handled. He says Tinder was also 867 00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,379 flooded, which I'm not quite sure what he meant by that. But 868 00:51:22,379 --> 00:51:24,929 he said Tinder is also flooded, I 869 00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:28,560 John C Dvorak: guess, Tinder? I guess Ukrainian women what he 870 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,940 expected that was exactly 871 00:51:29,940 --> 00:51:30,810 Adam Curry: I think that's what he's 872 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,310 John C Dvorak: what he's alluding to. That's what he's 873 00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:34,290 implying. But it is when said no. 874 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,160 Adam Curry: This is this is a disaster. It's a disaster. 875 00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:41,760 John C Dvorak: Well, it's kind of on the same line of thinking. 876 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,790 Let's play this clip. This is from NHK. to This is Russia, 877 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:47,160 China. Becoming pals 878 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,770 Unknown: diplomatic movements are heating up ahead of the 879 00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:53,250 first anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Russian 880 00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:55,920 President Vladimir Putin held talks was this Ben 881 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,800 Adam Curry: Shapiro's side gig side hustle this is great, this 882 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,240 is Shapiro. Slow down. No. 883 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,200 John C Dvorak: You I'm I'm gonna have to listen with me. I know 884 00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:12,660 who this guy is. And I've seen him thinking of anybody else but 885 00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:15,270 now what you mentioned is possible he's close your 886 00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:17,700 Adam Curry: eyes, close your eyes and hear Ben Shapiro 887 00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:20,190 Unknown: diplomatic movements are heating up ahead of the 888 00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:23,670 first anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Russian 889 00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:27,090 President Vladimir Putin talks Wednesday with China's top 890 00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:30,240 diplomat Wang Yi. Russian Chinese 891 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,810 relations are developing just as we planned in previous years. 892 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,110 Everything is moving forward developing as we are reaching 893 00:52:37,110 --> 00:52:41,010 new milestones listed below luxury. Mr. 894 00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:44,130 Putin said he expects trade between their countries to reach 895 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:49,410 $200 billion by 2024. He also said he's waiting for Chinese 896 00:52:49,410 --> 00:52:53,310 President Xi Jinping to visit Moscow for a summit as planned, 897 00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:56,910 Wang replied, relations between their nations are mature, 898 00:52:56,940 --> 00:52:58,380 resilient and stable. 899 00:52:59,850 --> 00:53:02,190 Adam Curry: We would like to emphasize once again that the 900 00:53:02,190 --> 00:53:05,250 comprehensive strategic partnership between Russia and 901 00:53:05,250 --> 00:53:09,630 China has never been directed against a third party, and is 902 00:53:09,630 --> 00:53:13,680 certainly not subjected to interference and provocation by 903 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,400 any third party. So what does this all mean? 904 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,370 John C Dvorak: Well, I'm, you know, I was thinking about this. 905 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:24,420 Russia and China have been butting up against each other. 906 00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:29,790 So forever. Yeah. The Russia attack by them. They share a 907 00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:32,910 huge border, and the Russians were attacked by the Mongols 908 00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:35,610 back in the day and they've always had you there's always 909 00:53:35,610 --> 00:53:38,940 been these disputes, and there's always been the fear and during 910 00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:42,360 the Nixon Kissinger thing where they reopened China, thank you 911 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,650 for that. There was always this fear that their comment that 912 00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:50,010 Adam Curry: you got a cheap mic because of that. Okay, so be 913 00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:50,730 thankful 914 00:53:51,150 --> 00:53:53,850 John C Dvorak: that this is the American mic the PR 40s 915 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,820 Adam Curry: Do you have I do have I have a cheap Chinese 916 00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:57,420 cradle. 917 00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:59,790 John C Dvorak: I do have a cheap Chinese cradle and it works 918 00:53:59,790 --> 00:54:04,590 great. Okay. And you should be thankful too, because you don't 919 00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:06,510 hear me banging into thing. Oh, you said 920 00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:08,970 Adam Curry: thanks for that. Oh, you miss it. You're sincere. I'm 921 00:54:08,970 --> 00:54:09,840 sorry. I got it. 922 00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:15,450 John C Dvorak: And so yes, was sincere. It's a nice product. 923 00:54:16,110 --> 00:54:20,370 And it's cheap, very cheap. It's like everything else. It'll 924 00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:24,480 break break. Best Price. Now it'll break. Brom is like all 925 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,340 this stuff, it'll break. So. So when when Nixon and Kissinger 926 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,490 put this thing together, they were there was this fear that 927 00:54:32,490 --> 00:54:37,500 because of the common to the commonality of communism, that 928 00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:41,340 Russia and China would join up forces and it'd be the dominant 929 00:54:41,490 --> 00:54:46,230 factor in the world. But if their history goes back, if 930 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:49,980 these guys were ever going to get along, they would have got 931 00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:54,780 along by now, China and Russia. There's something about those 932 00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:59,640 two cultures. It's just obvious that they don't really you know, 933 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,950 do that People don't like different kinds of people for 934 00:55:01,950 --> 00:55:05,940 whatever reason. But these two, they don't like each other at 935 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,510 some base level. And yeah, they'll trade and you can run a 936 00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:13,140 train through the country of your want. And you know, but 937 00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:16,230 there's something wrong with that relationship. And Russia 938 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:19,350 really is wants to be more European, but we will let them 939 00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:23,940 Adam Curry: know. We know, because how handy is this right 940 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:27,690 now? We you and by the way, I was just gonna say we use Russia 941 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,930 to get the green, the Green Deal. That's what it's called on 942 00:55:30,930 --> 00:55:36,480 Europe, to push the hydrogen economy to make oil, isn't there 943 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,950 totally. They are the perfect foil. And I am amazed quite 944 00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:45,420 frankly, considering the international terrorism and 945 00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:51,030 terrorist act of sabotage, on their pipelines at the restraint 946 00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:52,200 Russia has shown. 947 00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:57,000 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they had to know what happened. 948 00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,880 Adam Curry: Well, they're now they've now called the UN 949 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,630 Security Committee, and said, Hey, we want an investigation. 950 00:56:03,630 --> 00:56:06,570 Council Council. Thank you. We want an investigation on this. 951 00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:11,310 We want to know what happened. Good luck with that? 952 00:56:11,730 --> 00:56:13,920 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, I gotta go. But at least making a 953 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,980 fuss. Yeah. But yeah, the Russians in the show. So I think 954 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:19,650 that we've already planned for the fact that the Russians and 955 00:56:19,650 --> 00:56:24,480 the Chinese we must do our top guys have to know this, that the 956 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,630 Russians and the Chinese aren't? Yeah, they'll give you the 957 00:56:27,630 --> 00:56:29,730 Chinese don't even want to give them bullets. I mean, they'll 958 00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:32,040 give you we heard that we're getting some armaments and 959 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,490 bullets from North Korea. Yeah. Russians. Yeah. Oh, and 960 00:56:35,490 --> 00:56:39,150 Adam Curry: I think that's probably part of the game is, 961 00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:46,890 hey, tell Kim Jong on to shoot some shit over there. Yeah, it 962 00:56:46,890 --> 00:56:51,480 could be, of course. Of course, what else? All of a sudden this 963 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:56,460 happened. It was interesting. Megyn Kelly. Because Tina 964 00:56:56,490 --> 00:56:58,890 listens to Megyn. Kelly, she said, you know, she's a woman on 965 00:56:58,890 --> 00:57:02,190 who's from North Korea. And he was horrible, you know, with her 966 00:57:02,190 --> 00:57:06,810 story. And she was trafficked to China. And I said, you know, 967 00:57:06,810 --> 00:57:08,250 this may I'll be done when you're when this happened, like 968 00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:12,930 15 years ago, when she was 12, or whatever. I said, the story 969 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:16,620 may be true. In fact, a lot of it's likely very true. But the 970 00:57:16,620 --> 00:57:21,300 reason that it's be pushed now is all of his reasons for this. 971 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,170 This you know, she has a book out Okay, so why all of a sudden 972 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,740 is a book about you know, the horrible life in North Korea 973 00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:32,280 coming out? Isn't that directly related to China bad? I mean, 974 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,010 isn't this all part of this information war that's taking 975 00:57:35,010 --> 00:57:35,550 place, 976 00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:39,210 John C Dvorak: which brings me to a slew of clips Hey, now 977 00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:40,620 Adam Curry: I set you up perfectly. 978 00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:45,990 John C Dvorak: Let's listen to these clips. This is Japan and 979 00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:49,080 China. This is by the way what's going on in Asia which nobody's 980 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,150 paying any attention to over here but there's all kinds of 981 00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:56,880 action. In fact, I got a I put together a VPN lash app so I 982 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,370 could get T V New Zealand VPN 983 00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:02,310 Adam Curry: lash up is this like a Rube Goldberg machine? You go 984 00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:04,470 from one VPN through a second one? Well, 985 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:07,260 John C Dvorak: I'm when I tried to get to New Zealand TV they 986 00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:11,760 would they real strict about who can look at their television. So 987 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,710 I then worked my way in and had a real bad VPN lashup. They had 988 00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:17,760 a real bad storm 989 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:18,090 Adam Curry: there. 990 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:21,300 John C Dvorak: Yes, that that was a Gabriel if I had to have a 991 00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:24,210 clip on that if you wanted to skip around. But no, let's play 992 00:58:24,210 --> 00:58:26,460 this. Japan and China News one 993 00:58:26,490 --> 00:58:29,250 Unknown: top officials from Japan and China say their 994 00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:32,790 countries need to work together to tackle some difficult issues. 995 00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:36,090 These were the first security talks in four years and came 996 00:58:36,090 --> 00:58:39,480 amid growing tensions over Taiwan and accusations of 997 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,840 espionage. The Senior Foreign Affairs and Defense officials 998 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:46,290 showed signs of disagreement locking horns on several key 999 00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:50,670 issues. Yamaga Shigeo broached the topic of spy balloons. The 1000 00:58:50,670 --> 00:58:53,790 Senior Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs says Japan 1001 00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:58,560 strongly suspect China flew them within its airspace. China shone 1002 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,470 the spotlight on Japan's recent moves to boost defensive 1003 00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:04,830 capabilities which Beijing casts as a military buildup. 1004 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:10,200 To be honest, China has serious concerns over Japan's release of 1005 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,890 its new defence and security documents. It's collusion with 1006 00:59:13,890 --> 00:59:18,420 foreign forces and the negative moves such as its involvement in 1007 00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:22,350 the Taiwan issue, you don't have your general question. 1008 00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:25,710 Still the to agree on the need to keep an open dialogue to 1009 00:59:25,710 --> 00:59:29,190 avoid any unintended escalation and decided to create a new 1010 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:31,260 hotline new coalition or neither is 1011 00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:33,780 Adam Curry: common understanding between the two countries 1012 00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:37,950 leaders of the need to build constructive and stable Japan 1013 00:59:37,950 --> 00:59:42,630 China relations. You could have labeled this this section of the 1014 00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:44,370 show was hot Asian action. 1015 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,880 John C Dvorak: Japan and China in part two, 1016 00:59:47,939 --> 00:59:50,609 Unknown: China's Vice Minister also met with Japanese Foreign 1017 00:59:50,609 --> 00:59:54,479 Minister a high se Yoshimasa during his visit to Tokyo, I 1018 00:59:54,479 --> 00:59:57,689 actually likewise emphasize the need to allow both sides to air 1019 00:59:57,689 --> 01:00:00,839 concerns and work through disputes That trip was also an 1020 01:00:00,839 --> 01:00:04,859 opportunity for China to remind Tokyo of its importance as Japan 1021 01:00:04,859 --> 01:00:08,069 moves to strengthen ties with Beijing's rival the United 1022 01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:09,749 States. No. 1023 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,410 John C Dvorak: Oh well United States now we have this clip 1024 01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:15,600 which is a way say is Beijing 1025 01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:19,380 Adam Curry: villa. Bae Jin is my Beijing is Belgian. We all know 1026 01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:19,800 this. 1027 01:00:20,190 --> 01:00:22,980 John C Dvorak: Beijing. Yeah. They gotta get together over 1028 01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:23,370 there. 1029 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,830 Adam Curry: Yes, the Philippines. That's that's kind 1030 01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:29,190 of a problem that we've, we've moved in there. I would presume 1031 01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:30,630 that Well, here 1032 01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:33,030 Unknown: we go. The United States has reaffirmed its 1033 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:36,630 commitment to the defense of the Philippines. It follows a flare 1034 01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:40,110 up of tensions in the South China Sea after Manila accused 1035 01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:43,260 the Chinese ship of pointing a laser at one of its ships. 1036 01:00:43,950 --> 01:00:46,950 Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke with his Philippine 1037 01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:49,560 counterpart. Carlito Galvez by phone 1038 01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:51,780 Adam Curry: was it a laser pointer like one of those deals, 1039 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,130 John C Dvorak: or some sort of a weapon like um, directed energy 1040 01:00:56,130 --> 01:00:57,210 Adam Curry: weapon from space. 1041 01:00:58,470 --> 01:01:01,350 Unknown: Austin said attack and attack on a Philippine vessel 1042 01:01:01,350 --> 01:01:04,950 anywhere in the South China Sea would invoke the US mutual 1043 01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:07,860 defense commitment under a treaty between their countries 1044 01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:11,130 so the Philippine Coast Guard says a Chinese government ship 1045 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,760 directed a military grade laser at its patrol vessel earlier 1046 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,690 this month. Near the Spratly Islands. Beijing claims the ship 1047 01:01:18,690 --> 01:01:22,680 did not direct lasers at the crew or cause any damage. It 1048 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,650 says the Chinese ship was compelled to respond because the 1049 01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:28,290 Philippine vessel entered Chinese waters without 1050 01:01:28,290 --> 01:01:31,950 permission. Austin agreed with Galvez The incident took place 1051 01:01:31,950 --> 01:01:36,060 inside the Philippine exclusive economic zone. They discussed 1052 01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:39,750 joint patrols in the South China Sea and further cooperation with 1053 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:43,530 like minded nations like Japan that want to free and open Indo 1054 01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:47,190 Pacific Manila aims to expanded security cooperation with other 1055 01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:51,420 countries as well. It's melting joint patrols with Australia in 1056 01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:52,440 the South China Sea. 1057 01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:55,350 Adam Curry: I get a real strong Gulf of Tonkin vibe from what's 1058 01:01:55,350 --> 01:01:56,220 going on here. 1059 01:01:56,279 --> 01:01:58,829 John C Dvorak: There's something going on it's it gets active and 1060 01:01:58,829 --> 01:02:01,319 it's real active and listen to your I'll just play two more 1061 01:02:01,319 --> 01:02:04,079 clips. Does USA Taiwan meetings 1062 01:02:04,169 --> 01:02:07,199 Unknown: now senior officials from Taiwan this guy is working 1063 01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:08,039 on my nerves though. 1064 01:02:08,430 --> 01:02:11,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. We're gonna go leave him. Go to 1065 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,720 someone worse. 1066 01:02:12,930 --> 01:02:14,970 Adam Curry: Let's play him first. It's only 50 seconds I 1067 01:02:14,970 --> 01:02:15,630 can handle it. Now. 1068 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:18,780 Unknown: Senior officials from Taiwan have made a rare visit to 1069 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:21,600 the US Capitol Region. Apparently the latest in a 1070 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,190 series of US Capitol 1071 01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:23,940 Adam Curry: Region, 1072 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,270 John C Dvorak: Washington, Virginia, Washington DC 1073 01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:30,210 Unknown: or dramatic exchanges. These sorts of talks have 1074 01:02:30,210 --> 01:02:33,570 frustrated Beijing at a time when it's Washington relations 1075 01:02:33,570 --> 01:02:37,470 remain fraught here are Taiwan's Foreign Minister Joseph Wu and 1076 01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:40,890 National Security Council Secretary General Wellington who 1077 01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:44,970 is entering the Virginia office of the American Institute in 1078 01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:49,530 Taiwan. Around the same time, US Deputy Secretary of State Wendy 1079 01:02:49,530 --> 01:02:53,400 Sherman and other senior officials were spotted. Taiwan 1080 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,880 media say for about seven hours, the officials discussed 1081 01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,750 diplomacy and security. It comes days after sources told us 1082 01:03:00,750 --> 01:03:05,370 media, the Pentagon's top China official went to Taiwan, the US 1083 01:03:05,370 --> 01:03:09,360 and Taiwan have not had formal diplomatic ties for decades, and 1084 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,540 neither has confirmed any official meetings. 1085 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,130 Adam Curry: No one I appreciate. This was 1086 01:03:14,130 --> 01:03:14,820 John C Dvorak: not a meeting. 1087 01:03:14,970 --> 01:03:18,270 Adam Curry: No but what I appreciate about NHK and they 1088 01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:21,000 may also be based in Washington DC for all I know 1089 01:03:21,029 --> 01:03:23,609 John C Dvorak: that we may be but these reports are out of 1090 01:03:23,609 --> 01:03:24,119 Japan. 1091 01:03:24,299 --> 01:03:26,669 Adam Curry: I mean, when you listen to Deutsche Avella and 1092 01:03:26,669 --> 01:03:31,349 France 24 It's like you got Brits on on France. 24. You got 1093 01:03:31,379 --> 01:03:35,549 Americans on Deutsche Avella like I want to hear Deutsche 1094 01:03:35,549 --> 01:03:40,529 accents on Deutsche Avella and France Oksana on France 24 and 1095 01:03:40,529 --> 01:03:43,379 TRT I want to hear some turkey a accents 1096 01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,340 John C Dvorak: I know what you mean exactly noise me it's like 1097 01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:50,490 are you all see France 24 where they pride themselves at 1098 01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:55,620 bringing in British accented spooks good English speakers. 1099 01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:56,400 Yeah, spooks. 1100 01:03:56,490 --> 01:03:57,930 Adam Curry: It's gotta be spooks Oh, it's 1101 01:03:57,930 --> 01:03:59,760 John C Dvorak: totally suppose Well, this isn't a this this is 1102 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,700 the last China thing. Now this is a baffling clip because I 1103 01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:05,820 can't understand a word they say because this is one of my clips 1104 01:04:05,820 --> 01:04:11,250 from New Zealand TV NZ channel one and it's like about the 1105 01:04:11,250 --> 01:04:14,310 Chinese and all this island hopping they're trying to take 1106 01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:18,690 over a bunch of islands and this is like on destroyed it's hard 1107 01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:24,240 to tell. 60 Minutes Australia has probably done the best job 1108 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,970 of revealing much of what's going on there. We don't even 1109 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,040 know it. We're just I don't know what brain the dark. Dark we're 1110 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:37,380 in the dark. So what am I playing here baffling clip. Top 1111 01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,170 Unknown: members of the Pacific Islands Forum are meeting in 1112 01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:43,980 Fiji this week for a much needed special retreat. Tensions are 1113 01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:47,310 running high as security in the region becomes more fragile with 1114 01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:50,880 a number of nations including cannabis forming close relations 1115 01:04:50,910 --> 01:04:54,900 with China get about says return to the forum table this year 1116 01:04:54,930 --> 01:04:57,900 bringing renewed hope leaders will be able to patch up their 1117 01:04:57,900 --> 01:04:58,980 differences. 1118 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,870 It was also have sorted out and Kitty bus has come back to this 1119 01:05:03,870 --> 01:05:07,710 meeting. So this meeting is to really make sure that Katie bus 1120 01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:12,030 does stay within the forum family for security reasons. And 1121 01:05:12,030 --> 01:05:15,240 as well as they really need to be at the table when discussing 1122 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,830 big regional issues. 1123 01:05:17,010 --> 01:05:20,790 Climate change will also be high on the agenda with meaning 1124 01:05:20,790 --> 01:05:23,700 Pacific countries already experiencing destruction due to 1125 01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:25,350 extreme weather events. 1126 01:05:26,010 --> 01:05:31,830 John C Dvorak: Hmm. Yeah, events very odd. Yeah, they're really 1127 01:05:31,830 --> 01:05:35,220 good. I'm telling you. I'm going to try to get some more clips 1128 01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:40,020 from this New Zealand operation because their accent is hard to 1129 01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:46,860 hear. Yes, I would say they have a lot of idiosyncratic ways of 1130 01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:51,180 British Australians or you know the shrimp on the barbie you can 1131 01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:54,150 kind of follow what they have to say but these New Zealanders and 1132 01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:59,490 they do call themselves kiwis. Yeah. are very difficult to 1133 01:05:59,490 --> 01:06:00,210 understand. 1134 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,960 Adam Curry: I did okay there until they pulled the rug and 1135 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:09,120 took me to climate change. They jumped in. Did you see this? 1136 01:06:09,150 --> 01:06:12,060 This is one of those baffling things just going back to China. 1137 01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:18,990 The Aerospace intelligence space Twitter account space OS int 1138 01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:24,600 whatever that is. The post a selfie of one of our of the you 1139 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,770 to dragon lady pilot? I don't know if that means the YouTube 1140 01:06:28,770 --> 01:06:32,460 is titled The dragon lady and it's the pilot or if the lady if 1141 01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:36,450 the pilot is a dragon lady, I don't know. circling above the 1142 01:06:36,450 --> 01:06:38,280 Chinese spy balloon? 1143 01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:44,880 John C Dvorak: Yes. The NHK website has a lot of photos of 1144 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,420 it very 1145 01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:49,050 Adam Curry: confusing, very confusing to me. I mean, first 1146 01:06:49,050 --> 01:06:52,380 of all, why are you shooting a selfie on your phone when you're 1147 01:06:52,410 --> 01:06:56,490 you're actually in a high tech sophisticated surveillance 1148 01:06:56,550 --> 01:07:02,460 aircraft that has the best cameras? Why? How insulting to 1149 01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:03,930 give us a selfie. 1150 01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:08,910 John C Dvorak: And I want to ask some of our experts out there. 1151 01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:13,830 Why are we still flying the u two? And where it would I 1152 01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:16,770 thought this SR 70 was was benched 1153 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,930 Adam Curry: the XR 71 or whatever it was? 1154 01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:23,940 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is 70. I think it is 70. And but the 1155 01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:27,450 you choose an old pre dated plane. That's a plane from this 1156 01:07:27,450 --> 01:07:30,330 50s I think but it's a high altitude plane. I think it's 1157 01:07:30,330 --> 01:07:33,930 still in service. But why is it still in the service? And then I 1158 01:07:33,930 --> 01:07:36,750 understand there's a third plane that nobody's talking about. 1159 01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:40,140 That's really the plane they're flying, which is some? 1160 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,110 Adam Curry: So this was 70,000 feet and this balloon was at 1161 01:07:43,110 --> 01:07:47,130 60,000 feet? Yeah. Very interesting. 1162 01:07:47,609 --> 01:07:48,329 John C Dvorak: Sounds right. 1163 01:07:49,410 --> 01:07:51,540 Adam Curry: None of it sounds right to me. I'll be on. I 1164 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,240 John C Dvorak: mean, the numbers sound right. 1165 01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:57,000 Adam Curry: But you know, when you listen to these clips, when 1166 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:01,470 you look at the whole world of selfies and tweets, and I mean, 1167 01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:02,310 aren't we just live 1168 01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:04,680 John C Dvorak: itself? This? Something's wrong with that? 1169 01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:07,500 Adam Curry: Aren't we just living in the matrix already? I 1170 01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,660 mean, you could just believe whatever you want to believe, 1171 01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:14,430 because you'll find something that's true for you. Yeah. I 1172 01:08:14,430 --> 01:08:16,260 don't know what Zuckerberg is building. We don't need the 1173 01:08:16,260 --> 01:08:22,110 glasses mark. It's already okay. Like Project Veritas. I want to 1174 01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:23,760 talk about Project Veritas for a moment. 1175 01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:27,120 John C Dvorak: I have nothing on this. Well, I don't have some 1176 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,840 thoughts. And I've gotten letters and yes, well, also, but 1177 01:08:30,930 --> 01:08:33,900 Adam Curry: so we saw the I think everyone saw the James 1178 01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:37,830 O'Keefe video, which was done on Monday, Presidents Day. So no 1179 01:08:37,830 --> 01:08:39,660 one's at the office, except they're worse than people at the 1180 01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:43,620 office. And he was gathering his things. And from there on out, 1181 01:08:43,620 --> 01:08:51,030 it was like, okay, he has he has resigned. And then there's all 1182 01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:55,590 kinds of document and the board comes out with a with a memo 1183 01:08:55,590 --> 01:09:01,830 saying that he was cruel to employees and that, you know, 1184 01:09:01,830 --> 01:09:06,090 there's a question of, of misappropriating donor funds 1185 01:09:06,270 --> 01:09:12,180 717 $1,000 for charter jet, was this a 3030 minute flight? What 1186 01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:17,130 kind of charter jet can you get for 30 $17,000? You're not going 1187 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,000 very far. He's 1188 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,270 John C Dvorak: shared. I'm sorry. Shared. 1189 01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:24,600 Adam Curry: No, no, this just you're not getting very far for 1190 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:24,990 that kind 1191 01:09:24,989 --> 01:09:27,539 John C Dvorak: of money. No, but if his share with 10 other 1192 01:09:27,539 --> 01:09:28,049 people. 1193 01:09:28,889 --> 01:09:32,369 Adam Curry: Now then he paid then he overpaid. You know, 1194 01:09:32,369 --> 01:09:38,189 $150,000 in, in black cars, which I presume is Uber X or 1195 01:09:38,189 --> 01:09:41,519 something. And the whole thing was just really like, 1196 01:09:42,209 --> 01:09:46,709 everything's very, very weird. And I've done a dive into some 1197 01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:52,049 things including their 2021 form 990 filing, which, and 2020 and 1198 01:09:52,049 --> 01:09:54,989 2019. And I've learned a few things and there's there's some 1199 01:09:54,989 --> 01:09:57,209 things coming out and maybe we can make some sense of what's 1200 01:09:57,209 --> 01:10:01,799 happening. If First of all, I wanted to mention that James 1201 01:10:01,799 --> 01:10:05,519 O'Keefe says several times in his video that nothing had 1202 01:10:05,519 --> 01:10:09,839 changed with the Way Project Veritas was doing business until 1203 01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:17,549 they did the big Pfizer takedown, which now, let's just 1204 01:10:17,549 --> 01:10:23,669 stop for a second. We have watched Veritas Project Veritas 1205 01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:27,239 and what they've done since really since the days of acorn, 1206 01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:30,119 which is, you know, when it was really just O'Keefe, you know, 1207 01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:35,279 get an undercover video himself during Obama's days. Yep. And I 1208 01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:38,669 would say we have used very little of their material because 1209 01:10:38,669 --> 01:10:42,359 it was patently unusable for audios above and we were 1210 01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:45,149 actually quite happy when we could assist and help them get 1211 01:10:45,149 --> 01:10:48,509 their audio cleaned up. We suggested a couple people that 1212 01:10:48,509 --> 01:10:49,499 could use and 1213 01:10:49,530 --> 01:10:52,200 John C Dvorak: once we stepped into the picture, all hell broke 1214 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,070 loose zactly for them to do his Pfizer know, 1215 01:10:56,940 --> 01:10:59,790 Adam Curry: once John, I started helping to advise the executive 1216 01:10:59,790 --> 01:11:03,060 director all went to business, he went to shoot Corinne Devora 1217 01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:07,620 consulting group broke it now. So the first thing is, we have 1218 01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:11,580 to go back to our, our own producer, our Baron I believe, 1219 01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:16,890 who became the Executive Director of Vera toss just six 1220 01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:20,700 weeks ago, maybe, by itself interesting that that happened. 1221 01:11:21,690 --> 01:11:24,210 And he's an ex Wall Street guy, but hadn't been on Wall Street 1222 01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:25,770 for several years, from what I understand. He's 1223 01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:28,650 John C Dvorak: being excoriated on you know, agenda social by by 1224 01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:29,730 five or six people. 1225 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,970 Adam Curry: And I think rightly so. Because no, no, well, no, 1226 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,110 because his note was very clear. The board loves James, it's 1227 01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:41,070 gonna be okay. He's not been fired. And then, you know, James 1228 01:11:41,070 --> 01:11:46,650 O'Keefe, again, I see people who I love and respect. going off 1229 01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:49,980 the deep end, maybe they listen to James O'Keefe in two times 1230 01:11:49,980 --> 01:11:53,880 speed saying, oh, Keith brought the receipts not he actually 1231 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,580 didn't bring any receipts. He just told us what he what he 1232 01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:59,340 believed was going on and what he felt and his side of the 1233 01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:03,570 story. So I did follow a receive a follow up email this morning 1234 01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:07,590 from our our producer, who was the executive director of both 1235 01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:11,910 of the nonprofits. And I'm going to share with him with you what 1236 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:15,390 he wrote, because we've been sharing all of his stuff. So I 1237 01:12:15,390 --> 01:12:18,780 personally didn't say don't share this. And we're going to 1238 01:12:18,780 --> 01:12:23,190 get more IgM I've been on the phone nonstop. Outside of some 1239 01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:27,060 he had a family tragedy on Monday, which very sorry for he 1240 01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:30,480 says, That was the worst day of my life. I'll try to get you a 1241 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:34,410 better update for Sunday, my brain is mush. Our journalists 1242 01:12:34,410 --> 01:12:36,960 and the rest of the team are dedicated to getting stories 1243 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,170 while the board and James work things out again, he's not 1244 01:12:40,170 --> 01:12:45,060 fired, not ousted, not removed, did not resign. Many of the 1245 01:12:45,060 --> 01:12:48,180 things that were said in that video are not true. I was not 1246 01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:51,390 there as it was a Holiday Inn HQ was closed. So I worked from my 1247 01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:54,240 home office, I kind of wish I could have been there because I 1248 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,110 could have interjected the truth a few times more to come. Okay, 1249 01:12:58,380 --> 01:13:02,100 so he is doubling down on what he told us. That's an 1250 01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:07,800 interesting development as far as I'm concerned. So here's what 1251 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,070 I've 1252 01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:10,590 John C Dvorak: learned definitely extends the story. It 1253 01:13:10,590 --> 01:13:11,130 does. 1254 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,070 Adam Curry: So I've looked through all the leaked memos, 1255 01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:16,680 and you know, and all the different things and read 1256 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,400 everything the board had to say. But it was really the 990 that 1257 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,770 interested me the most. And I'd become quite an expert at 1258 01:13:22,770 --> 01:13:25,830 reading form 990s. Throughout the course of 15 years or more 1259 01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:29,370 doing the show, I learned a lot about it from the keeper who 1260 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,930 used to work exclusively in the nonprofit arena as the chief 1261 01:13:33,930 --> 01:13:36,840 communications officer. So she understands a lot of how this 1262 01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:40,350 works and how it functions. And the 990s you can glean a lot 1263 01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:43,860 mainly, the top line thing is interesting is how much money 1264 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:47,130 did they bring in? And what did it go towards? These are the 1265 01:13:47,130 --> 01:13:49,620 things that are always interesting. And of course, one 1266 01:13:49,620 --> 01:13:54,540 of the reasons? Well, when you have a nonprofit, you have a lot 1267 01:13:54,540 --> 01:13:58,200 of reporting responsibility, you have to stay within certain 1268 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:04,800 guidelines legally to remain a tax exempt nonprofit. So there's 1269 01:14:05,190 --> 01:14:08,250 unless someone's really faking numbers and lying that I'm going 1270 01:14:08,250 --> 01:14:13,710 to take this as true because it was filed with the IRS and more 1271 01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:17,160 on the IRS in a moment. So what is very interesting is James 1272 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:22,470 O'Keefe talks about specifically that plane trip which the board 1273 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:25,740 or according to the board letter, which and our executive 1274 01:14:25,740 --> 01:14:27,870 director is not a member of the board that's very important 1275 01:14:27,870 --> 01:14:32,550 understand there are there were three board members on the the 1276 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:39,630 five OC three and I think two on the on the C four. But the end, 1277 01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:42,270 O'Keefe being one of the three board members of the IOC three 1278 01:14:42,270 --> 01:14:44,940 so it's really two people there's just one guy who may 1279 01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:50,310 have been early donor big petrol guy, and then Matthew tear mand 1280 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:57,840 whose LinkedIn is like Ministry of Silly Walks you know, so this 1281 01:14:57,870 --> 01:15:01,380 this guy is suspect to me. I'm not quite Sure, I mean, you can 1282 01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,340 delve deep into his history, but whatever's going on, they 1283 01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:10,800 accused O'Keefe, of using the plane to fix his boat. And 1284 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,310 O'Keefe said very clearly, I had three donor meetings in three 1285 01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:18,090 different cities in one day, I'm going to believe that because 1286 01:15:18,330 --> 01:15:23,190 when you're raising $20 million a year for Project Veritas, as 1287 01:15:23,190 --> 01:15:28,110 he said, I'm on the road 300 days a year raising money to 1288 01:15:28,110 --> 01:15:33,720 keep you guys paid. He said that in his video. Looking at all the 1289 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,440 projects that Veritas has done, and we've we've followed most of 1290 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:43,860 them, I would say, 90%. Now, even some of the COVID stuff was 1291 01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:50,490 all politically oriented. It was, you know, it, certainly it 1292 01:15:50,490 --> 01:15:56,340 would it would be a wealthy right wing, conservative donor 1293 01:15:56,340 --> 01:16:01,080 who would appreciate the work that Veritas does, because it 1294 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,950 makes the left usually left leaning media left leaning 1295 01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:09,960 politicians look stupid, and exposes them for what they're 1296 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:14,100 doing go all the way back to ACORN, which was a valid hit on 1297 01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:20,040 President Obama. So when you're doing this, you're raising 1298 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,370 money, not just from people and a lot of people's I may have 1299 01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:26,940 supported Project Veritas at one time, like, here's 20 bucks. 1300 01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:31,650 Yeah, great. Good job. I love that you're doing this. But to 1301 01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:37,500 see a spike in 2020 10%, more, almost $23 million, a lot of 1302 01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:39,960 money to raise. So yeah, if you're James O'Keefe, you're 1303 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,210 running around, you're doing meetings, you're getting money. 1304 01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:46,980 It's it's a lot of $100,000 checks a lot. And I think we're 1305 01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:51,210 learning looking at alternative media in general. As we've 1306 01:16:51,210 --> 01:16:57,030 learned from the blaze, we look at the Crowder and daily, you 1307 01:16:57,030 --> 01:17:00,750 know, what's his face daily wire, Shapiro connection, big 1308 01:17:00,750 --> 01:17:04,800 money there, you know, what Crowder would call big 1309 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,490 conservative, there's a lot of money and a lot of influence. 1310 01:17:08,490 --> 01:17:11,460 And I think we're starting to understand that a lot of this 1311 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:15,960 was being used, really, ultimately for political gain. 1312 01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:21,510 And when you do something that goes outside of that, and you 1313 01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:27,570 expose, in a very, I mean, it was a bad look for Pfizer. It 1314 01:17:27,570 --> 01:17:31,110 was of course, I think handled properly. And this is probably 1315 01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:36,090 part of it. To suppress that story. You're stepping on big 1316 01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:41,820 toes, and Pfizer, Big Pharma, probably one of the most 1317 01:17:41,820 --> 01:17:45,540 powerful the organizations in the world. 1318 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:48,330 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I get compared to acorn. Yes. 1319 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,130 Adam Curry: Exactly. And, and you may have stepped on some 1320 01:17:53,130 --> 01:17:57,000 donors toes, and at a certain point, the donors are driving 1321 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:02,730 the train, as Tina would say. So that shit had to stop. And the, 1322 01:18:03,210 --> 01:18:06,630 and the way to decide to do it is to blow up Project Veritas. 1323 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,750 And I think this one board member may have something to do 1324 01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:14,730 with it. And just in this this morning, it appears that the IRS 1325 01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:19,830 mine had been harassing board members with some threats of God 1326 01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:23,610 knows what. And that could have also played right into, you 1327 01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:26,490 know, a weak board member that might be this Matthew Terman. 1328 01:18:26,490 --> 01:18:31,470 guy who, who then says, oh, we gotta we gotta get rid of 1329 01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:34,230 O'Keefe. We gotta we gotta blame it all on him. We want to 1330 01:18:34,230 --> 01:18:38,160 continue because it is a good business. I mean, it seems like 1331 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,850 they weren't out of money and bringing 20 million plus in now. 1332 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,120 Now the reason why good business the reason why it's a very 1333 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:50,460 difficult business is a O'Keefe is now a known figure, so he 1334 01:18:50,460 --> 01:18:53,640 can't do undercover stuff himself. So he has to get people 1335 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,820 to do this. And a lot of people don't want to do honey pot, you 1336 01:18:56,820 --> 01:19:00,600 know, it's it's tough. And especially if it's a media 1337 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,570 business, it's it's a covert media business. So you know, 1338 01:19:04,380 --> 01:19:07,380 people are going to be Curt and short with you in the production 1339 01:19:07,410 --> 01:19:09,720 arena. This is just what it is. It's no different from 1340 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,200 television or, you know, I'll bet NBC to you know, what is it 1341 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,140 To Catch A Predator? A bit there's a lot of crap going on 1342 01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:17,250 with that crew as well. 1343 01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:18,930 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it shows off. 1344 01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:21,600 Adam Curry: But you know what I mean, it's and there's also a 1345 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,150 lot of noodle boys and noodle girls these days. So this whole 1346 01:19:24,150 --> 01:19:28,080 memo about oh, he was mean, he ate a pregnant lady sandwich, 1347 01:19:28,110 --> 01:19:32,430 whatever he did, okay. However, here's the problem. This blow up 1348 01:19:32,460 --> 01:19:36,930 is such a magnitude that the whole world is on O'Keefe side. 1349 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,320 Everyone sees that O'Keefe is being railroaded regardless of 1350 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,380 how it worked internally. That's what they're seeing. And I can't 1351 01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:46,650 fault anyone for it and I don't even think O'Keefe is at fault 1352 01:19:46,650 --> 01:19:51,300 this. This is just how it goes. The problem is to get to get an 1353 01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:54,330 organization for O'Keefe to get an organ like organization like 1354 01:19:54,330 --> 01:19:58,350 this back up and running. Do you know what they spend in legal 1355 01:19:58,350 --> 01:20:03,990 fees? Almost five $5 million a year. Because you need that you 1356 01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:07,830 need that type of legal assistance when you're doing 1357 01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:11,520 this kind of stuff. And I think that, you know, the the Pfizer 1358 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:17,310 thing, for whatever reason, that was that was the someone stepped 1359 01:20:17,340 --> 01:20:21,930 over the line. And the whole thing had to be blown up. And I 1360 01:20:21,930 --> 01:20:25,110 wonder if it's possible to put those pieces back together 1361 01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:27,480 again. What are your thoughts? 1362 01:20:27,509 --> 01:20:30,509 John C Dvorak: I like that analysis. I've always been 1363 01:20:30,509 --> 01:20:32,849 suspicious there even though they all in denial about the 1364 01:20:32,849 --> 01:20:36,179 Pfizer thing. But they don't know what's going on. You're 1365 01:20:36,179 --> 01:20:40,289 right about behind the scenes in the IRS is political. When 1366 01:20:40,289 --> 01:20:43,019 Democrats are in power, and I think it is probably so when it 1367 01:20:43,019 --> 01:20:45,659 when the Republicans are in two, but the Democrat political 1368 01:20:45,659 --> 01:20:49,559 machine gets involved with the IRS. And they have the head of 1369 01:20:49,559 --> 01:20:54,389 the IRS was appointed, I think, by the President and then 1370 01:20:54,389 --> 01:20:58,289 approved by a rubber stamp policy. That's why I shouldn't 1371 01:20:58,289 --> 01:21:02,699 use the word approved when I should say rubber stamped by the 1372 01:21:02,699 --> 01:21:07,469 Congress or Senate. And, and they are political. They was 1373 01:21:07,469 --> 01:21:12,599 shown by the during the Obama administration when this Lois 1374 01:21:12,599 --> 01:21:16,709 Lerner you clearly violated all the edicts that she was, you 1375 01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:19,319 know, gonna have to follow and she didn't never did, and she 1376 01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:22,529 never got in trouble for it, which is makes it even easier 1377 01:21:22,529 --> 01:21:25,169 for the next guy to come along, say, look, what do lawyers dead? 1378 01:21:25,169 --> 01:21:29,459 You're not even getting close to that. And so yes, and I believe 1379 01:21:29,459 --> 01:21:33,689 this, I think, the thesis that the IRS is putting pressure via 1380 01:21:33,689 --> 01:21:38,249 the Biden administration, or via Pfizer. Yeah. And here's the 1381 01:21:38,249 --> 01:21:41,039 Pfizer has got a lot of important people that are on its 1382 01:21:41,039 --> 01:21:43,979 board. He's got a lot of investors that expect to make 1383 01:21:44,099 --> 01:21:48,449 money. Oh, yeah. And they put little pressure this way or that 1384 01:21:48,449 --> 01:21:50,759 way. And yeah, it wouldn't take much to get somebody to fold 1385 01:21:50,759 --> 01:21:53,459 into or to get panicky. And 1386 01:21:56,460 --> 01:22:00,300 Adam Curry: what I think the mistake that was made, which, to 1387 01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:04,470 me is just I don't understand why did Project Veritas ever 1388 01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:10,980 decide to be a nonprofit. This is baffling to me. Is that oh, 1389 01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:12,330 John C Dvorak: that's a great point. 1390 01:22:12,570 --> 01:22:15,510 Adam Curry: I mean, there are a lot of people have said to us, 1391 01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:18,570 why don't you do a nonprofit? Because that's the quickest way 1392 01:22:18,570 --> 01:22:22,260 for the government to shut us down. That's literally our 1393 01:22:22,260 --> 01:22:22,680 answer. But 1394 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,920 John C Dvorak: the reason the reason we decided initially is 1395 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,450 because when we had JC in our back office, yeah, he did a lot 1396 01:22:30,450 --> 01:22:33,780 of research on he got us all kinds of research on this and 1397 01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:39,000 that. And he found a study that showed that nonprofits in our 1398 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:47,040 space space who left well, our space, I said that words back in 1399 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,810 nonprofits doing what we do get less donations. 1400 01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:55,470 Adam Curry: Of course, that would be our Hey, man, we're 1401 01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:58,890 gonna get less money if we do a nonprofit, bad idea. 1402 01:22:59,250 --> 01:23:05,160 John C Dvorak: That was the real rationale. It turns out and I 1403 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,070 was thinking about this every once in a while when I see AMY 1404 01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:10,110 GOODMAN or somebody going on and on about there being a 1405 01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:13,620 nonprofit, I'm thinking, well, they obviously don't have to 1406 01:23:13,620 --> 01:23:18,030 make money thus they do the nonprofit. And it's like we'll 1407 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:23,580 do something about it turns you off, insofar as donating as 1408 01:23:23,580 --> 01:23:28,590 opposed to guys like us, we're not we're for profit, but we pay 1409 01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:33,480 the IRS we pay our taxes we do. We do. And it just seems to at 1410 01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:38,040 least get some sympathy to the to the donor donating class. So 1411 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,200 yeah, those poor guys, you know, they gotta pay taxes like 1412 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,320 everybody else, even though you also have to pay tax like 1413 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,510 anybody else if you're a nonprofit, but to being a 1414 01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:47,910 nonprofit is a bad idea. 1415 01:23:48,389 --> 01:23:49,589 Adam Curry: And one of the things that 1416 01:23:52,230 --> 01:23:55,770 John C Dvorak: let me take that back. So we do complete thought 1417 01:23:55,770 --> 01:24:01,590 out, it's a bad idea unless you have one huge or two monstrous 1418 01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:06,030 donors that need you to be in a nonprofit status so they can 1419 01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:09,270 take it off their taxes, but you're gonna get a ton of money 1420 01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:13,620 from those two guys. Or not. Anyway, we can't do that. 1421 01:24:13,650 --> 01:24:16,620 Adam Curry: No. And this is why we chose or we developed really 1422 01:24:16,620 --> 01:24:19,980 the value for value model is you know, people can get pissed off 1423 01:24:19,980 --> 01:24:24,330 but you know, 510 people it'll hurt but it's not going to end 1424 01:24:24,330 --> 01:24:27,330 us you know, we don't have a single source we don't have a 1425 01:24:27,330 --> 01:24:31,080 single sugar daddy, who's out there you know, like some Texas 1426 01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:37,080 oil guys, Jews for Jesus guys. That's that's us funding funds 1427 01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:46,230 daily wire. The Blaze is very, very opaque as to how that 1428 01:24:46,230 --> 01:24:51,870 actually works on their money there. I'm just seeing a lot of 1429 01:24:52,410 --> 01:24:55,350 political money running throughout the so called 1430 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:58,560 Alternative Media and I'm think we're starting to see kind of 1431 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:05,010 where the problems are. And I was I was doing a calculation we 1432 01:25:05,010 --> 01:25:08,430 now know that new were about 850,000 people listen to an 1433 01:25:08,430 --> 01:25:12,030 episode of The no agenda show. And that's and that's a real 1434 01:25:12,030 --> 01:25:16,260 number for the one episode, which is pretty good. You know, 1435 01:25:16,260 --> 01:25:21,300 we could do one spot, that 25 CPM. And that's all we'd have to 1436 01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:28,410 do. per episode, yeah, one one ad at that at that CPM. And 1437 01:25:28,410 --> 01:25:30,840 that's all we'd have to do. But I couldn't live with myself and 1438 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,280 we would not be able to do this. 1439 01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:34,380 John C Dvorak: You could live with yourself, but you couldn't 1440 01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:36,060 live with the ramifications. 1441 01:25:36,090 --> 01:25:40,500 Adam Curry: Correct. And now, for years, we have in a way been 1442 01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:46,890 compared to NPR with their with their model of listener produced 1443 01:25:47,490 --> 01:25:54,120 radio, podcast media. And NPR has always it's always been 1444 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,870 baffling to us how they receive a little bit of money now, I 1445 01:25:57,870 --> 01:26:03,060 think it's maybe 3%. But they're always they have listener 1446 01:26:03,090 --> 01:26:08,040 donation drives and they know you can get a coffee mug or a 1447 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:14,280 tote bag. Right? But there's not supposed to be advertising 1448 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,120 although we have heard in the past, you know, donor was it 1449 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:22,080 sponsorships, donor, underwriting, underwriting, 1450 01:26:22,110 --> 01:26:24,120 John C Dvorak: whatever you want to call it, advertising, 1451 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:24,990 whatever you want to call it, 1452 01:26:25,019 --> 01:26:26,909 Adam Curry: you know, we should probably I should probably play 1453 01:26:26,909 --> 01:26:32,009 that find that clip. Yeah, we have it of course. Here we go. 1454 01:26:32,369 --> 01:26:35,609 This is important to hear this is from how long ago did we have 1455 01:26:35,609 --> 01:26:37,199 this clip per 2012 1456 01:26:37,230 --> 01:26:39,480 Unknown: Rich Rodriguez recently fired. Oops, that's 1457 01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:43,770 Adam Curry: not the one. Here we go. No, that's not Oh, it was 1458 01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:47,730 uh, who was it? Ah, sponsor it was that 1459 01:26:47,730 --> 01:26:52,050 John C Dvorak: woman, that woman, that woman who has been 1460 01:26:52,050 --> 01:26:54,840 around she's still floating around to us. So she's a very, 1461 01:26:55,590 --> 01:27:02,040 very talented manager. CEO type it to his running and PR this 1462 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,190 just the other day, didn't we? Yeah, he just played like two 1463 01:27:05,190 --> 01:27:06,000 three shows ago. 1464 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:11,040 Adam Curry: It was like, call it advertise you were everywhere we 1465 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,300 go. I got here's the one 1466 01:27:12,330 --> 01:27:15,900 Unknown: Okay, moving on to money. How are NPR is corporate 1467 01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:18,900 underwriting revenues holding up in the recession or Bernie 1468 01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:20,970 Madoff foundation grants foundation? 1469 01:27:21,599 --> 01:27:27,359 Two different stories. Underwriting is underwriting is 1470 01:27:27,389 --> 01:27:31,379 is down it's down for everybody. I mean, this is this is this is 1471 01:27:31,379 --> 01:27:35,219 the area that is most down for us is is in is in sponsorship, 1472 01:27:35,249 --> 01:27:38,339 underwriting advertising, call it whatever you want. So we 1473 01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:39,330 Adam Curry: of course Clary 1474 01:27:40,350 --> 01:27:42,450 John C Dvorak: wallet, what area was it? Can we 1475 01:27:42,450 --> 01:27:45,660 Adam Curry: call it advertising? Is it advertising? Is it 1476 01:27:45,660 --> 01:27:49,110 sponsorships? Is it underwriting? Well today? 10 1477 01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:53,250 years later, we find out the truth. Sadly, NPR is going 1478 01:27:53,250 --> 01:27:56,430 through a downturn like everybody else, except last 1479 01:27:56,430 --> 01:28:01,230 time, like 10 years ago, except the story has changed just 1480 01:28:01,230 --> 01:28:04,470 Unknown: a little bit. And now of course, some news about NPR 1481 01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:05,400 itself. And 1482 01:28:05,730 --> 01:28:10,110 Adam Curry: this is going to report on ourselves because we 1483 01:28:10,110 --> 01:28:12,390 have so much journalistic integrity. 1484 01:28:12,690 --> 01:28:16,620 Unknown: And now of course some news about NPR itself. NPR 1485 01:28:16,620 --> 01:28:20,550 announced a major restructuring today and revealed it's about to 1486 01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:24,750 lay off about 10% of the workforce. Our CEO John Lansing 1487 01:28:24,750 --> 01:28:29,850 cited a drop of $30 million in projected advertising revenues. 1488 01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:32,550 And PR media correspondent Dave What? 1489 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:40,500 Adam Curry: advertising revenue, facade 30% Drop What's the 1490 01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:44,700 30% 30 million 30 million and 80 million advertising revenues? 1491 01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:48,750 That's a lot of advertising that you're supposed to not be doing. 1492 01:28:49,260 --> 01:28:52,620 Or bulbs find out as they report on themselves force. 1493 01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:57,750 Unknown: Our CEO John Lansing cited a drop of $30 million in 1494 01:28:57,750 --> 01:29:01,800 projected advertising revenues. And PR media correspondent David 1495 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,160 Folkenflik joins me and David it's always Folkenflik pleasure 1496 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,800 to talk to you. But this is a tough day as you know, 1497 01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:12,450 Adam Curry: a tough day that that that that breathing in. You 1498 01:29:12,450 --> 01:29:14,760 know what that microphone you have we're taking that we're 1499 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,280 taking that as part of your downsizing. We're taking away 1500 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,070 all your Neumann stem here. Yeah, look, 1501 01:29:20,099 --> 01:29:20,879 John C Dvorak: yeah, look, 1502 01:29:20,910 --> 01:29:24,930 Unknown: it's it's a real loss. As John Lansing said, in a memo 1503 01:29:24,930 --> 01:29:27,990 to staff I've been here over 18 years. It's the toughest cuts 1504 01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:31,080 I've seen, it's probably the toughest since the early 80s. 1505 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,580 What we know is not a lot except about the extent of it. And what 1506 01:29:35,580 --> 01:29:40,050 John Lansing said to me was that it would not be uniform across 1507 01:29:40,050 --> 01:29:43,440 he wasn't just going to take a hatchet and do the same across 1508 01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:44,820 all divisions he went home 1509 01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:48,720 Adam Curry: 30 million is only 10% How much of these guys 1510 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,020 making an advertising? I mean, 1511 01:29:54,660 --> 01:29:57,330 Unknown: strategic and thoughtful about how it's done. 1512 01:29:58,380 --> 01:30:01,350 But you know this is necessary. only going to be us doing not 1513 01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:04,710 only less with less, but reconfiguring how we do it. He 1514 01:30:04,710 --> 01:30:08,910 said that this is going to be really the focus of how NPR 1515 01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:10,920 restructures itself in a significant way. 1516 01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:13,620 Now, what does that actually mean when he wants to be 1517 01:30:13,620 --> 01:30:18,240 thoughtful? I think this will be uniform across divisions. Can 1518 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,070 you decipher what he's actually envisioning? 1519 01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:23,550 We don't know. We don't have that. But we do know is three 1520 01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:24,930 one div report on 1521 01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:29,430 Adam Curry: a deep dive reports reporting on ourselves. NPR is 1522 01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:31,800 an in I'm just reading from the website is an independent 1523 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,650 nonprofit media organization that was founded on a mission to 1524 01:30:34,650 --> 01:30:39,090 create a more informed public every day, blah, blah, blah, 1525 01:30:39,090 --> 01:30:47,550 blah. 1000 stations through 1.6 million website visitors weekly 1526 01:30:47,550 --> 01:30:51,990 app users doesn't really say how they're funded or finances on 1527 01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:52,740 strategic 1528 01:30:53,130 --> 01:30:56,010 Unknown: priorities he's placing on it if you pack them together, 1529 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,360 one of which is that he's talked about NPR North Star. And that 1530 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:06,000 is both as a sense of mission and a sense of purpose. And 1531 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,720 also, as a business proposition, NPR has to deepen and broaden 1532 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,530 its audience to you know, seek younger and more diverse 1533 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,620 audience base and that that's the way in which he was building 1534 01:31:16,620 --> 01:31:17,610 for the future. And he said that 1535 01:31:17,639 --> 01:31:19,709 Adam Curry: wait a minute, they have to seek younger and more 1536 01:31:19,709 --> 01:31:25,889 diverse audience base. This, this is death. Only old people 1537 01:31:25,889 --> 01:31:30,509 listen to NPR or they're going to jazz it up now. Like doo, 1538 01:31:30,599 --> 01:31:33,689 doo, HIPAA podcast podcasts. And until they wonder that what 1539 01:31:33,690 --> 01:31:35,850 John C Dvorak: you said is true. And well, let's roll it back. 1540 01:31:35,850 --> 01:31:40,860 And we have the demos on this. To use it phrase, 1541 01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:43,680 Adam Curry: you caught me flat footed when you called for the 1542 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,990 demos on this, I wasn't ready for it another 1543 01:31:46,889 --> 01:31:49,499 Unknown: one of which is that he's talked about NPR North 1544 01:31:49,499 --> 01:31:54,659 Star. And that is that both as a sense of mission and a sense of 1545 01:31:54,659 --> 01:31:58,739 purpose. And also as a business proposition, NPR has to deepen 1546 01:31:58,739 --> 01:32:02,909 and broaden its audience to, you know, seek younger and more 1547 01:32:02,909 --> 01:32:06,149 diverse audience base and that that's the way in which he sees 1548 01:32:06,179 --> 01:32:08,339 building for the future. And he said that since he arrived in 1549 01:32:08,339 --> 01:32:12,209 the fall of 2019, he's also talked about unifying its 1550 01:32:12,209 --> 01:32:15,089 newsroom with its programming side, the programming is where 1551 01:32:15,179 --> 01:32:18,659 so much growth is, particularly in the podcasting division. But 1552 01:32:18,659 --> 01:32:21,059 these divisions in some ways are artificial. A lot of our 1553 01:32:21,059 --> 01:32:24,029 colleagues doing journalism are doing so under the rubric of 1554 01:32:24,029 --> 01:32:26,279 podcasting, but it's still really part of a greater 1555 01:32:26,339 --> 01:32:31,469 journalistic function. And so sure, so there's that. And he 1556 01:32:31,469 --> 01:32:35,789 says, you know, this was part of a strategic element beyond where 1557 01:32:35,789 --> 01:32:39,689 he wants to integrate NPR more fully with its stations 1558 01:32:39,689 --> 01:32:42,629 integrate both in terms of what we do content wise, but in terms 1559 01:32:42,629 --> 01:32:45,389 of raising money and distributing our content online. 1560 01:32:45,420 --> 01:32:48,630 Okay, so 10% of the workforce that's going to add up to about 1561 01:32:48,660 --> 01:32:52,200 100 jobs. As we know, NPR is not alone here. There are a whole 1562 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,900 lot of media companies in a budget crunch. How does this 1563 01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:59,160 news today from our newsroom fit in with a broader picture of our 1564 01:32:59,160 --> 01:32:59,850 industry? 1565 01:33:00,210 --> 01:33:02,940 It's been a real crunch. You saw hundreds of layoffs at CNN, they 1566 01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:05,460 killed their projected streaming service costs, do they have 1567 01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:09,750 corporate underwriters and at CNN again, and plus you saw 7% 1568 01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:13,800 cuts at Vox media 6%, at Spotify, and Econet and you saw 1569 01:33:13,860 --> 01:33:17,250 these huge cuts these huge other places that Google Mehta, 1570 01:33:18,660 --> 01:33:22,740 Amazon, Microsoft that also rely on advertising dollars, it's one 1571 01:33:22,740 --> 01:33:25,770 of the first place corporate executives cut when they fear 1572 01:33:25,950 --> 01:33:29,460 the economy going soft as they have lately, even though the 1573 01:33:29,460 --> 01:33:31,020 unemployment rate remains very low. 1574 01:33:31,950 --> 01:33:35,670 Is NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik. And David, thank you 1575 01:33:35,670 --> 01:33:38,580 for reporting on NPR just as you would any other media company, 1576 01:33:38,700 --> 01:33:41,430 Adam Curry: all right from the website. A large portion of NPR 1577 01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:44,910 revenue comes from dues and fees paid by our member stations and 1578 01:33:44,910 --> 01:33:47,910 underwriting from underwriting from corporate sponsorships. 1579 01:33:48,270 --> 01:33:51,480 Other sources of revenue include include institutional grants, 1580 01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:54,810 individual comp contributions and fees paid by users of the 1581 01:33:54,810 --> 01:33:59,580 public radio satellite system. So here's the breakdown. 37% of 1582 01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:02,460 their revenue comes from corporate sponsorships, I 1583 01:34:02,460 --> 01:34:08,190 presume that's, you know, brought to you by Pfizer. 32% is 1584 01:34:08,190 --> 01:34:14,370 from core and other programming fees. Core and so I presume that 1585 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:19,620 that they mean by that the member stations and fees paid by 1586 01:34:19,620 --> 01:34:24,390 public radio satellite system 12% Is contributions of cash and 1587 01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:29,760 financial assets. That's the Jay Rockefeller Foundation. 1588 01:34:29,970 --> 01:34:32,580 John C Dvorak: And he's sure that's not the public. 1589 01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:36,360 Adam Curry: It wasn't a public end and listeners like you 1590 01:34:36,690 --> 01:34:40,140 listeners like 7% is other revenues. Is that the 1591 01:34:40,140 --> 01:34:46,620 advertising part? Maybe? Closer to 10%? On Wait 5% Is the prss 1592 01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:50,640 satellite contracts? Okay, so the 30 maybe three in the 32% is 1593 01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:54,270 core. Look, I don't I think their charter specifically 1594 01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:55,920 forbids advertising. This 1595 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,630 John C Dvorak: is what I don't understand is true anymore. 1596 01:34:57,660 --> 01:35:00,960 Adam Curry: I guess not altered. I think the Advertising is 1597 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,010 probably only working on podcast. That's where they can 1598 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:10,020 use advertising from, I believe previous research that we've 1599 01:35:10,020 --> 01:35:10,500 done. 1600 01:35:10,890 --> 01:35:14,220 John C Dvorak: Well, he's also that guy also hinted that the 1601 01:35:14,220 --> 01:35:18,960 podcasts were different in such a way that I think he hinted 1602 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,780 that they do native ads on the podcasts. Well, that 1603 01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:23,550 Adam Curry: no, he says that's what they're going to do. 1604 01:35:23,610 --> 01:35:27,030 They're putting the programming and all the departments 1605 01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:30,240 together. And then it's like, well, you know, he's doing 1606 01:35:30,270 --> 01:35:34,290 podcasts, but they're really doing core journalism. I think 1607 01:35:34,290 --> 01:35:36,510 it's falling apart because of podcasting. 1608 01:35:36,660 --> 01:35:39,450 John C Dvorak: I, you know, you didn't get there as fat you got 1609 01:35:39,450 --> 01:35:42,750 there a little bit frozen. I mean, I've already thought that. 1610 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,860 I'm totally convinced that's what it is. And it harkens back 1611 01:35:46,860 --> 01:35:51,030 a little bit on the, on the internet itself, and, and the 1612 01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:55,980 finances of how a newspaper makes money, and how a online 1613 01:35:55,980 --> 01:36:01,260 newspaper makes money. Right. So different, that you can't run 1614 01:36:01,260 --> 01:36:04,290 the New York Times, if it was just online, you have to have 1615 01:36:04,290 --> 01:36:08,520 the hard copy stuff, just expensive ads in the print 1616 01:36:08,700 --> 01:36:12,330 version. And you have to, I mean, like PC Magazine, in his 1617 01:36:12,330 --> 01:36:16,200 heyday, the one page ads were $50,000 Oh, 1618 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,860 Adam Curry: man, that those days are long gone. And we're talking 1619 01:36:19,860 --> 01:36:24,360 John C Dvorak: about hundreds of pages of those ads. Twice a 1620 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:32,910 month, it was glorious. It was flying all over the place. But 1621 01:36:32,940 --> 01:36:37,980 yes, and no, the point is, is that those days are over. And 1622 01:36:37,980 --> 01:36:41,400 the economics are different. And the same thing with podcasting. 1623 01:36:41,940 --> 01:36:45,660 Except for the fact that we do our we have our distribution to 1624 01:36:45,660 --> 01:36:51,750 our own system. If we were paying pod bean. We damn near 1625 01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:55,260 broke magic. And if we're paying 10 producers, that wouldn't help 1626 01:36:55,260 --> 01:36:58,740 either, but no, but But you pointed out in a thing you wrote 1627 01:36:58,740 --> 01:37:02,100 a long time ago, you said on something a long time ago, you 1628 01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:04,890 said that people don't understand that broadcasting and 1629 01:37:04,890 --> 01:37:10,470 podcasting have a different basic element of finance, in so 1630 01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:14,520 far is that a broadcast in terms of scalability, when a 1631 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:19,890 broadcaster sends out a signal, and he's got 10,000 listeners, 1632 01:37:20,010 --> 01:37:24,000 it's costing him no more or less? Yes. And if he has 5000 1633 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,200 listeners, or 2 million listeners, right, because it's a 1634 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,720 broadcast signal, and it's broadcast, it goes everywhere, 1635 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,930 and people pick it up where they don't, with, with anything over 1636 01:37:33,930 --> 01:37:37,500 the internet, if you got 100 listeners, listen to your 1637 01:37:37,500 --> 01:37:41,580 podcast, the amount of bandwidth it's going to cost you is not 1638 01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:46,920 the same. If you have a million or 10 million, it's going to 1639 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,760 cost you a lot of money. And it's and it doesn't scale. In 1640 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,280 that way. At scale. You can get that many people but you're 1641 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,710 gonna have to pay more for the bandwidth because it costs money 1642 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,530 to put stuff on the internet, it doesn't so much with 1643 01:37:58,530 --> 01:38:02,730 broadcasting. And you totally get that you won't realize that 1644 01:38:02,730 --> 01:38:05,640 podcasting is completely different. Also, the 1645 01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:10,890 Adam Curry: there's a huge difference in podcasting, 1646 01:38:10,890 --> 01:38:17,220 really, you and I and you helped actually spend about $65 million 1647 01:38:17,220 --> 01:38:21,060 dollars worth of investors money to find out that a single 1648 01:38:21,060 --> 01:38:24,930 podcast can be very successful can run on its own. If you run 1649 01:38:24,930 --> 01:38:29,490 it lean and mean if you do most of the work yourself. Use the 1650 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,230 tools that are available. The mini 1651 01:38:31,410 --> 01:38:33,690 John C Dvorak: def some skills. Yeah, of course, 1652 01:38:33,690 --> 01:38:36,420 Adam Curry: you have to have some skills. It's like you can't 1653 01:38:36,420 --> 01:38:39,810 just start a band, you know, yeah, you can't just can't play 1654 01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:42,660 the guitar, you need to play be able to play the guitar or do 1655 01:38:42,660 --> 01:38:47,130 something or you know, work some electronics. The minute you 1656 01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:50,520 build that into a network, which is always the mistake made it 1657 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:55,860 myself. And you know, as I say you cannot monetize the network. 1658 01:38:56,010 --> 01:38:59,130 That just does not work when people know they can do things 1659 01:38:59,130 --> 01:39:02,280 on their own. They come from their own their own system, 1660 01:39:02,370 --> 01:39:06,660 you'll never be able to make everybody happy with the ads, 1661 01:39:06,660 --> 01:39:09,180 the distribution of ads, the distribution of money, the 1662 01:39:09,180 --> 01:39:12,540 promotion, it just it becomes a quagmire and this is the mistake 1663 01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:17,760 that Spotify made and I advise them don't do this. This is not 1664 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:22,470 the way to go. They of course why would you listen to me? I 1665 01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:26,820 only only only blew 65 million you know, they're they're close 1666 01:39:26,820 --> 01:39:31,620 to 650 million that they probably more they blew on their 1667 01:39:31,620 --> 01:39:34,650 little experiment there. It just doesn't work and now we have 1668 01:39:34,650 --> 01:39:39,540 this really bad downturn in advertising. And it's it's so 1669 01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:42,870 bad that they're it's hitting NPR which is not even supposed 1670 01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:47,580 to have advertising and that has to be because the only money 1671 01:39:47,580 --> 01:39:50,550 that's really working I think is on the podcast side because 1672 01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:54,960 that's where they can do the ads. And and the the radio is 1673 01:39:54,960 --> 01:40:00,000 just too expensive. The days are over when you had the A 1674 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,450 narrowcast you had a couple of channels and there's just too 1675 01:40:03,450 --> 01:40:08,880 much offering. There's too much and and I bet 1676 01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:12,570 John C Dvorak: you overlooked a lean and mean. 1677 01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:15,270 Adam Curry: So the No, that's no, that's what I'm saying. 1678 01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:19,350 Broadcast is not is by definition not lean and mean. 1679 01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:24,450 That generally, you know, that's the guy unions. And now once a 1680 01:40:24,450 --> 01:40:30,750 union once you got into, you know, Spotify, you got it. Yeah, 1681 01:40:30,750 --> 01:40:36,240 you know, and then the money was flowing and it was an ESG check 1682 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,840 mark for everybody's like, hey, you know, we got to do something 1683 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:45,240 for bipoc podcasters Do we have any? No, but we'll go make some 1684 01:40:45,450 --> 01:40:49,440 and off run all the consultants and they make bipoc podcast and 1685 01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:52,770 they get big companies to sponsor them and they and they 1686 01:40:52,890 --> 01:40:57,630 you watch the the big conferences like Podcast 1687 01:40:57,630 --> 01:41:00,330 Movement, and they're all gonna go down the drain now because 1688 01:41:00,330 --> 01:41:05,370 the money is done. There's not there's not a dream by now. No, 1689 01:41:05,370 --> 01:41:09,810 they were riding high on the on the zero interest rate free 1690 01:41:09,810 --> 01:41:14,040 money. And now you see that even though it's it's not great for 1691 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,550 us, it's been better. We're gonna survive this. You know, we 1692 01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:20,610 can tighten our belts. But when you have to tighten the belt to 1693 01:41:20,610 --> 01:41:23,850 the whole organization, yeah, it just doesn't work that way. And 1694 01:41:23,850 --> 01:41:27,450 then you got to kick people out. Morale goes down. People start 1695 01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:34,050 stealing stuff. Pencils and microphones and all kinds of 1696 01:41:34,050 --> 01:41:38,070 stuff starts turning up missing people started having sex on the 1697 01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:42,360 CEOs desk out of spite. Now this is not going to go well. So 1698 01:41:43,290 --> 01:41:43,830 let's take 1699 01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:47,820 John C Dvorak: a look Amanda page of the NPR podcast page. 1700 01:41:47,850 --> 01:41:52,110 Yes. Now they have dozens and dozens of parameters just to 1701 01:41:52,110 --> 01:41:54,300 name a few these tell me have you ever heard of any of you 1702 01:41:54,300 --> 01:42:01,140 okay. Okay, we got up first to say yes or no first No. Embedded 1703 01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:07,590 featuring white lies. No, no. Here and now and anytime. Yeah, 1704 01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:11,280 here and now anytime I've heard of this one. Yes. Oh, you have 1705 01:42:11,310 --> 01:42:18,120 planet money you have Yep. Life kit. No wisdom from the top No. 1706 01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:20,430 Ultimate COPPA. 1707 01:42:20,759 --> 01:42:23,009 Adam Curry: Now that I'm canceling that one right away. 1708 01:42:24,690 --> 01:42:28,320 John C Dvorak: code switch. Yes, I've heard of that one. Really? 1709 01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,080 Well as well you keep up with this little more Naidu thought 1710 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:35,190 these I'd never heard of any of these through line now. No, it's 1711 01:42:35,190 --> 01:42:40,320 been a minute No. rough translation No. Book of the day. 1712 01:42:40,710 --> 01:42:47,490 No. Radio Ambulante on our watch 1713 01:42:47,700 --> 01:42:48,510 Adam Curry: on our what know 1714 01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:50,340 John C Dvorak: the limits 1715 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,260 Adam Curry: how many podcasts they have 1716 01:42:52,260 --> 01:42:57,150 John C Dvorak: no copyright we go on? No compromise. No. Story 1717 01:42:57,150 --> 01:42:59,580 core. Troll room chime in if 1718 01:42:59,580 --> 01:43:00,840 Adam Curry: you've heard any of these No. 1719 01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:04,290 John C Dvorak: Believed 1720 01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:06,540 Adam Curry: no proof. 1721 01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:11,850 John C Dvorak: This is bad. Yeah, pop culture happy hour. 1722 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:16,260 Adam Curry: No. We're canceling that one to note we're canceling 1723 01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:18,600 that one. No, no, no, no no. What's 1724 01:43:18,630 --> 01:43:26,370 John C Dvorak: good with stretch and Bobbito? No. Bullseye only a 1725 01:43:26,370 --> 01:43:29,940 game? No. Invisibility 1726 01:43:30,059 --> 01:43:33,479 Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. I've heard of this one. No, no, I guess 1727 01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:33,809 not. 1728 01:43:34,830 --> 01:43:36,030 John C Dvorak: Tiny Desk 1729 01:43:36,450 --> 01:43:38,700 Adam Curry: Tiny Desk that's what everyone's getting now at 1730 01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:40,020 NPR. I have not heard of the 1731 01:43:40,830 --> 01:43:44,370 John C Dvorak: T No. Louder than a riot. 1732 01:43:44,429 --> 01:43:45,449 Adam Curry: No. No 1733 01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:47,190 John C Dvorak: all songs considered. 1734 01:43:48,030 --> 01:43:52,890 Adam Curry: That's that's a that's a build out of All Things 1735 01:43:52,890 --> 01:43:57,240 Considered. I guess. Some of the top we already mentioned from 1736 01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,240 the top. So there's another one from the top. Oh, they're 1737 01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:01,110 doubling up. 1738 01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,330 John C Dvorak: Jazz Night in America. 1739 01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:10,290 Adam Curry: Very popular jazz mod. I want to do jobs Night in 1740 01:44:10,290 --> 01:44:14,190 America from NPR. Yeah, I want mountain 1741 01:44:14,190 --> 01:44:18,420 John C Dvorak: stage with someone Hey, can Zippy get a 1742 01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:23,730 show with those guys? It sounds like a bonanza World Cafe. Okay, 1743 01:44:23,730 --> 01:44:26,640 I'm done. Once up and I left you out 1744 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,450 Adam Curry: of world bonanza. No, I don't know any of you. But 1745 01:44:30,450 --> 01:44:34,800 I'd know I probably don't know 99% Of all podcasts of the 1746 01:44:34,890 --> 01:44:37,230 course. There's 4 million of them. And when we had to 1747 01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:41,370 downgrade we had to do some chop and drop. There's really 3.9 1748 01:44:41,370 --> 01:44:45,330 now. Yeah, well close enough. Yeah. I would just say shopping 1749 01:44:45,330 --> 01:44:47,460 drop. Operation chop and drop. 1750 01:44:47,610 --> 01:44:49,650 John C Dvorak: Is this a little too much inside baseball for 1751 01:44:49,650 --> 01:44:53,100 most of these people that listen to our show? No, I buy it. 1752 01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:55,260 People enjoy seeing us entertain I think people 1753 01:44:55,260 --> 01:44:58,110 Adam Curry: who listen to our show or show enjoy the fact that 1754 01:44:58,110 --> 01:45:02,010 we don't have to have some sad story. Well, looks like we're 1755 01:45:02,010 --> 01:45:05,610 gonna have to drop 50% of the show, John. Sorry, 1756 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,530 John C Dvorak: you can't go down to an hour. 1757 01:45:09,450 --> 01:45:12,180 Adam Curry: Right? We got to do less show now. Although your 1758 01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:15,990 your bandwidth story that has changed a little bit, but 1759 01:45:16,020 --> 01:45:20,250 certainly not 15 years ago, these days Cloudflare. And this, 1760 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,810 we don't want to be dependent, the Cloudflare has, has D 1761 01:45:24,810 --> 01:45:28,680 Platform podcast or some Yeah, I think an actual podcast, that 1762 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:33,690 they would not proxy it. That's the whole point is that we have 1763 01:45:33,690 --> 01:45:37,860 producers, who've taken this envoys zero, of course, has done 1764 01:45:37,860 --> 01:45:41,160 this, almost from day one, made sure that we had our own 1765 01:45:41,190 --> 01:45:46,710 infrastructure own system. And with very, it's very affordable 1766 01:45:46,710 --> 01:45:49,020 for us. It's not free, but it's affordable. 1767 01:45:49,290 --> 01:45:50,970 John C Dvorak: That's free, that's for sure. No, 1768 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,870 Adam Curry: but But it's reliable. And I thought being, 1769 01:45:55,260 --> 01:45:59,580 hey, you know, I have to I have to say pod bean released their 1770 01:45:59,580 --> 01:46:03,480 new app. And they actually have a couple podcasts and 2.0 1771 01:46:03,480 --> 01:46:09,660 features in there. So I feel bad about about using pod Bean as a 1772 01:46:09,660 --> 01:46:11,550 as a as a bad example. 1773 01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,600 John C Dvorak: It's me, I'm doing doing it. And it's not a 1774 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,360 bad example. I think pod bean does a pretty good job, except 1775 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:22,950 that they charge a lot. And if you're in there, you don't get 1776 01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:24,990 you know, there's no I mean, what's the point? Why don't you 1777 01:46:24,990 --> 01:46:29,760 just do it yourself? Yeah, people don't want to do it 1778 01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,830 themselves. They don't want to look into it. I mean, it's 1779 01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:34,530 cheaper. If you can find it, you know, you could do it out of 1780 01:46:34,530 --> 01:46:37,470 your home, you could do it from your own server. If you could 1781 01:46:37,470 --> 01:46:40,560 get a deal with your whoever's doing your training for the 1782 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:41,730 internet. I think 1783 01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:44,280 Adam Curry: the the point that we've made in podcasting, and we 1784 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,640 should move on to something else, is that value for value 1785 01:46:47,670 --> 01:46:52,860 works. And this means that you don't have to have 850,000 1786 01:46:52,860 --> 01:46:56,550 people, you just need, if you can get 100 people who will 1787 01:46:56,550 --> 01:47:01,410 support you regularly, you win, if they'll support you at the 1788 01:47:01,410 --> 01:47:04,740 level that they get out of the value that get out of what 1789 01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:07,050 you're doing. And that and that's where that should really 1790 01:47:07,050 --> 01:47:10,440 be the only reason for existence. People still have 1791 01:47:10,440 --> 01:47:16,170 this broadcast mentality. We saw the same thing with blogs. Yeah, 1792 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:20,070 I got a blog. I'm gonna be millionaire like Andrew, what's 1793 01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:21,870 his name? Sullivan. 1794 01:47:22,469 --> 01:47:24,929 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Andrew Sullivan, who dropped the ball. 1795 01:47:26,279 --> 01:47:30,299 You did? Now, he just couldn't figure out why he did that. But 1796 01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:33,750 Adam Curry: just because you can. Podcast doesn't mean that 1797 01:47:34,050 --> 01:47:38,100 it should be worth anything. If it is, it'll come back to you. 1798 01:47:38,130 --> 01:47:43,440 And as we've learned, the more listeners you get, the less the 1799 01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:47,430 participation rate in the donations. Which Someone asked, 1800 01:47:47,490 --> 01:47:50,820 someone asked me, Hey, I heard you guys say you get like 4%, 1801 01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:53,880 which is high, but I think you're right, two to 3% of those 1802 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:59,520 people that listen, support us. And the question was why? Why 1803 01:47:59,550 --> 01:48:01,440 can you answer that? Yeah. 1804 01:48:02,820 --> 01:48:04,470 John C Dvorak: That's just human nature is the way it is with 1805 01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:07,860 everything. With your been involved with direct marketing, 1806 01:48:07,860 --> 01:48:10,140 you know, immediately that you're gonna get, you can do the 1807 01:48:10,140 --> 01:48:12,240 numbers and you can know how much money you're going to make 1808 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,280 an advance of something you're going to try to sell. 1809 01:48:16,650 --> 01:48:19,440 Adam Curry: But we asked them all the time, and they just they 1810 01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:20,610 hate us for some reason. 1811 01:48:21,090 --> 01:48:23,370 John C Dvorak: No, do you have to ask them all the time, 1812 01:48:23,370 --> 01:48:26,190 because otherwise they'll forget the audience. We always have to 1813 01:48:26,190 --> 01:48:28,260 remember the basics. And people out there trying to do 1814 01:48:28,260 --> 01:48:33,300 podcasting should know this. It's like, people, your podcast 1815 01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:36,600 isn't the most important thing in anyone's life, except you 1816 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,920 maybe and that might be true. And so they're always forgetting 1817 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,610 that you even exist. So you have to say, Hey, I'm here. And you 1818 01:48:44,610 --> 01:48:47,310 know, we're looking for some more donations. Oh, yeah. You 1819 01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:50,940 guys, so Alright, okay. Otherwise, you're just going to 1820 01:48:50,940 --> 01:48:51,540 be forgotten. 1821 01:48:51,570 --> 01:48:54,000 Adam Curry: I wonder if people who listen at high speed don't 1822 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:54,600 donate? 1823 01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,320 John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm sure that people listening in high speed 1824 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,430 don't donate. I'm curious about the fact once. Let's let's see. 1825 01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:08,160 Here's an example. We have our friend a sheriff of Texas. Jean 1826 01:49:08,190 --> 01:49:12,180 Hmm. He stopped donating once he started listening in high speed. 1827 01:49:12,180 --> 01:49:13,950 Have you noticed this interesting, 1828 01:49:13,980 --> 01:49:19,800 Adam Curry: interesting correlation. Hmm. It rots your 1829 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:24,810 brain and it moves. It moves you away from me. It makes you 1830 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,310 greedy. It makes you greedy. 1831 01:49:27,540 --> 01:49:31,170 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was you because the greed of trying 1832 01:49:31,170 --> 01:49:35,520 to cram in a three hour podcast you know it two hours carries 1833 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:36,960 Adam Curry: over to your whole being. 1834 01:49:37,740 --> 01:49:41,310 John C Dvorak: It's a gestalt I suppose it's a bad Gestalt. A 1835 01:49:41,310 --> 01:49:42,000 BG? 1836 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:46,680 Adam Curry: there and you know what, there's more under under 1837 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,380 attack right now. This is my favorite story of the moment 1838 01:49:49,380 --> 01:49:51,660 because the outcome of this could change the internet 1839 01:49:51,660 --> 01:49:52,260 forever. 1840 01:49:52,290 --> 01:49:54,660 Unknown: This morning. The killing of American college 1841 01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:58,500 student Naomi Gonzalez in the 2015 ISIS terror attacks in 1842 01:49:58,500 --> 01:50:01,920 Paris is a case before The Supreme Court I've never done 1843 01:50:04,050 --> 01:50:09,840 something I could never imagine. Her parents claim YouTube's 1844 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,410 algorithms highlighted ISIS produced materials and further 1845 01:50:13,410 --> 01:50:16,350 radicalized the extremists that killed their daughter. 1846 01:50:16,770 --> 01:50:21,930 Hopefully by, by this, change the laws and that'll be for the 1847 01:50:21,930 --> 01:50:22,320 good. 1848 01:50:22,650 --> 01:50:25,620 Oral arguments today will center on section 230 of the 1849 01:50:25,620 --> 01:50:29,550 Communications Decency Act of 1996, which says internet 1850 01:50:29,550 --> 01:50:32,880 companies, including social media platforms cannot be sued 1851 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,450 over third party content uploaded by users. But some 1852 01:50:36,450 --> 01:50:40,260 legal experts say social media platforms are responsible for 1853 01:50:40,260 --> 01:50:41,100 their content, 1854 01:50:41,130 --> 01:50:43,290 they get to decide what to carry, they get to decide what 1855 01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:45,780 not to carry. And they get to decide how to design their 1856 01:50:45,780 --> 01:50:48,630 algorithms to amplify certain types of content. 1857 01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,840 Another case being heard by the High Court today is the case of 1858 01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:56,010 Anthony Nowak of Ohio arrested in 2016. After making a phony 1859 01:50:56,010 --> 01:50:59,640 Police Facebook page with fake announcements. He says it was 1860 01:50:59,670 --> 01:51:00,930 obviously a joke, 1861 01:51:01,050 --> 01:51:03,600 you click the page, it's very obvious and even what you're 1862 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,790 reading should strike you as off. 1863 01:51:06,030 --> 01:51:09,030 Local police weren't laughing, charging him with disruption of 1864 01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:12,600 law enforcement operations, a jury found him not guilty. But 1865 01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,270 he wants the supreme court to grant him the right to sue 1866 01:51:15,300 --> 01:51:17,880 police for violating his civil rights. 1867 01:51:17,910 --> 01:51:21,450 They raided my house, they took my electronics, they arrested me 1868 01:51:21,450 --> 01:51:24,270 my image was blasted all over the news. I didn't do anything 1869 01:51:24,270 --> 01:51:27,750 wrong. So I don't want them to think that's okay. Because I 1870 01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:28,680 kind of think they do. 1871 01:51:28,980 --> 01:51:32,310 Both these cases could have big implications, one potentially 1872 01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:35,910 making social media platforms more liable for their content, 1873 01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:39,570 the other could draw the line between parity and public 1874 01:51:39,570 --> 01:51:40,170 safety. 1875 01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:43,290 Adam Curry: So this, of course, is about power of over the 1876 01:51:43,290 --> 01:51:47,100 internet. That's the only thing that this is about. No one 1877 01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:51,120 cares. Who got hurt by the Internet. What do you think this 1878 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:51,690 will land? 1879 01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:56,910 John C Dvorak: Well, this is gonna be this is a big deal. 1880 01:51:56,940 --> 01:52:01,740 Yeah. And it was that is that it's just it's going to be in 1881 01:52:01,740 --> 01:52:04,050 the Supreme Court's hands, and they're going to have to deal 1882 01:52:04,050 --> 01:52:09,150 with it. We do notice that Robert and Kevin are flip 1883 01:52:09,150 --> 01:52:13,200 flopping liberal to conservative, curiously, 1884 01:52:13,500 --> 01:52:16,830 Kavanaugh, you think he'd be so irked by the treatment? 1885 01:52:16,980 --> 01:52:19,140 Adam Curry: I thought Kavanaugh was conservative. 1886 01:52:19,530 --> 01:52:22,110 John C Dvorak: He is but he's flip flopping just like Roberts. 1887 01:52:22,500 --> 01:52:25,590 Oh, there's a recent case on this recent kind of issue or in 1888 01:52:25,590 --> 01:52:28,920 general on all issues. He's there was a recent case where he 1889 01:52:29,010 --> 01:52:33,000 did that was a clear conservative values versus 1890 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:37,620 liberal values, a traditional liberal values, and he flipped 1891 01:52:37,620 --> 01:52:41,310 over. And it's it's I think the Supreme Court is in pretty good 1892 01:52:41,310 --> 01:52:45,600 shape. And so far as honesty about their positions. And they 1893 01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,520 do this, you know, you don't know what's going to happen when 1894 01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,790 you get to when the guy gets in there. And I think they're going 1895 01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:52,710 to have they're going to take a good hard look at this. And 1896 01:52:52,770 --> 01:52:55,080 whatever they come up with is going to be fascinating. 1897 01:52:55,590 --> 01:52:58,050 Adam Curry: I really hope they destroy it all. I mean, I'm kind 1898 01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:02,490 of on your side. I do I want it all to be destroyed. I want you 1899 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,040 in case you off. I should probably play this because this 1900 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:11,430 is do we have it here? Yes, this is as predicted 1901 01:53:11,460 --> 01:53:14,220 Unknown: as predict changes coming to Instagram and Facebook 1902 01:53:14,220 --> 01:53:17,310 users will soon need to pay if they want to become a verified 1903 01:53:17,310 --> 01:53:20,040 account. It's a move that follows in Twitter's footsteps. 1904 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:23,130 CEO Mark Zuckerberg says the new subscription services aimed at 1905 01:53:23,130 --> 01:53:26,700 improving security for 1199 a month, you'll get a blue 1906 01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:30,330 verified badge and direct access to customer support. The program 1907 01:53:30,330 --> 01:53:33,540 rolls out this week in Australia launching in the US a little bit 1908 01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:34,830 later this year. 1909 01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:37,230 Adam Curry: So two reasons. Two reasons for this one, 1910 01:53:37,260 --> 01:53:41,790 financially verified is much better than just verified. So 1911 01:53:41,820 --> 01:53:45,930 now we know where to go to get you if you post some trolling 1912 01:53:45,930 --> 01:53:49,620 comment, and it'll be perfect because we want to be your bank. 1913 01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:53,250 So now Elon Musk gets a little competition from the meta boys 1914 01:53:53,250 --> 01:53:53,790 and girl right 1915 01:53:53,790 --> 01:53:55,650 John C Dvorak: off the bat. I mean, you get this guy, so 1916 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,920 they're not dummies, and they see what he's up to. And they 1917 01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:02,610 wish you saw and I saw that what he's up to. 1918 01:54:02,700 --> 01:54:06,300 Adam Curry: I hope they destroy it all because we'll still have 1919 01:54:06,780 --> 01:54:10,860 our own protocols. We'll I mean, anyone who has Gmail, you're 1920 01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:13,920 screwed. You might as well get get another account somewhere, 1921 01:54:14,130 --> 01:54:17,400 because that's gonna be gone. But everything else will still 1922 01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,860 be able to commit and podcast will continue. It will probably 1923 01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:21,810 be the only thing left on the internet 1924 01:54:23,610 --> 01:54:25,290 John C Dvorak: to play or know quite how to attack it. 1925 01:54:25,889 --> 01:54:30,119 Adam Curry: How can you it's truly that they keep trying. 1926 01:54:31,229 --> 01:54:32,759 They keep trying to attack it 1927 01:54:32,790 --> 01:54:39,510 John C Dvorak: is probably more I'd say slander action. Libel 1928 01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:46,140 action on podcasts. Yeah. Than anywhere. Problem is is so 1929 01:54:46,140 --> 01:54:50,670 linear, and you're not that it's impossible to track it down. 1930 01:54:51,300 --> 01:54:54,030 Adam Curry: Well, you know, because they keep threatening 1931 01:54:54,030 --> 01:54:57,870 the DOJ, AI and machine learning will be able to figure out hey, 1932 01:54:57,870 --> 01:55:01,350 we publish a transcript on every single Show. So if you want to 1933 01:55:01,350 --> 01:55:03,930 know if we slandered you, you can just read the transcript. 1934 01:55:04,110 --> 01:55:07,110 But now they're going to the law enforcement of the internet, the 1935 01:55:07,110 --> 01:55:10,110 internet, police are going to figure it all out. Yeah, we can 1936 01:55:10,110 --> 01:55:14,940 do. We can do that with machine learning. No, you can't. It 1937 01:55:14,940 --> 01:55:19,530 doesn't work. None of it works. And then the biggest thing is it 1938 01:55:19,530 --> 01:55:20,250 John C Dvorak: works is the 1939 01:55:22,410 --> 01:55:25,890 Adam Curry: worst part is alright, you want to sue us? All 1940 01:55:25,890 --> 01:55:30,030 right. Good luck. What do you all you can take my house, I 1941 01:55:30,030 --> 01:55:34,290 guess. You chop it up for firewood? There's no money in 1942 01:55:34,290 --> 01:55:36,030 suing a little podcasters. 1943 01:55:37,650 --> 01:55:40,020 John C Dvorak: Debt. That's the that is the problem. Yeah. 1944 01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:44,400 That's the one so why bother even cares what they say? No, I 1945 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,160 mean, we don't slander or libel people. Because we actually know 1946 01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:53,190 the laws. Yeah. But there's plenty of it going on. Yes. But 1947 01:55:53,190 --> 01:55:56,340 again, like you said, these podcasts are set for realistic 1948 01:55:56,340 --> 01:56:00,030 came out of Barstool Sports or something like that. They don't 1949 01:56:00,030 --> 01:56:02,190 have any money. Well, yeah, we'll call her daddy or 1950 01:56:02,190 --> 01:56:04,890 something like that. But even if she makes big dough, even Joe 1951 01:56:04,890 --> 01:56:08,670 Adam Curry: Rogan this I don't think there's ever been a 1952 01:56:08,670 --> 01:56:12,960 slander lawsuit against Joe Rogan. And there's some money to 1953 01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:18,600 be gotten there in that interesting. Yeah. Maybe people 1954 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:19,320 just don't care. 1955 01:56:19,559 --> 01:56:21,419 John C Dvorak: Well, you know if they wanted this, and also, 1956 01:56:21,419 --> 01:56:25,199 there's all this, like, dozens of podcasts I just ran through 1957 01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:29,129 and NPR is just basically they're people just shooting 1958 01:56:29,129 --> 01:56:32,699 this shit and saying dumb stuff. Sure. There's lawsuits there. 1959 01:56:32,699 --> 01:56:36,959 And then PRs got less than $300 million budget. That's plenty of 1960 01:56:37,319 --> 01:56:38,789 that's somewhat deep. 1961 01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:44,220 Adam Curry: Yeah. Mark advertising, no less. Anyway, 1962 01:56:44,220 --> 01:56:48,000 the world's in trouble. It's all burning. And I'd like to I'd 1963 01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,790 like to hear your side Hersha clips before we take a break. 1964 01:56:51,210 --> 01:56:54,570 Oh, sure. Because I like what her like which side versus right 1965 01:56:54,570 --> 01:56:56,100 Shy? Shy. Hirsch 1966 01:56:58,230 --> 01:57:01,110 John C Dvorak: was on of all things. He's with a breed the 1967 01:57:01,110 --> 01:57:05,190 British guy, comedian, Russell Brand. 1968 01:57:05,790 --> 01:57:08,580 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. I saw this. That was rather interesting. 1969 01:57:09,300 --> 01:57:09,660 Well, I 1970 01:57:09,660 --> 01:57:11,490 John C Dvorak: thought it was interesting from the perspective 1971 01:57:11,490 --> 01:57:15,840 that Russell Brand is a pretty good interviewer with a guy like 1972 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,690 Psy hearse because He disarmed him by insulting him 1973 01:57:18,750 --> 01:57:20,460 Adam Curry: right off the bat. It was very good. Right 1974 01:57:20,460 --> 01:57:21,090 John C Dvorak: off the bat. 1975 01:57:21,150 --> 01:57:24,420 Adam Curry: It was very good. I agree about his hat. Right. 1976 01:57:24,990 --> 01:57:28,650 John C Dvorak: Well, those that was psi insulting brand, are 1977 01:57:28,650 --> 01:57:31,950 mentioning the hat, which tipped brand off that Oh, you want to 1978 01:57:31,950 --> 01:57:34,530 play that game? Right. Right. Right. So they went back and 1979 01:57:34,530 --> 01:57:39,540 forth. And he really gave it to psi. And he was cracking up. It 1980 01:57:39,540 --> 01:57:40,770 was good. Well, Sy 1981 01:57:40,770 --> 01:57:43,740 Adam Curry: Hersh has humor and you have to have humorous as 1982 01:57:43,740 --> 01:57:49,080 Seymour Hersh, when you're being called a liar. A Putin puppet? 1983 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:52,590 Yeah. There was something else that he did early on. It was 1984 01:57:52,590 --> 01:57:56,340 before it before the Russia collusion that he also called 1985 01:57:56,340 --> 01:57:59,460 bullcrap. On they, Oh, it's something with Obama, I think 1986 01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:00,750 wasn't something with Obama. 1987 01:58:01,379 --> 01:58:04,949 John C Dvorak: Well, he could say he has a he's got a good he 1988 01:58:04,949 --> 01:58:08,669 handled it well, to the point where he I know he did. Didn't 1989 01:58:08,669 --> 01:58:11,729 expect to do much on the show and ended up talking and talking 1990 01:58:11,729 --> 01:58:16,949 and talking. I gotta go. But let me tell you this. Yeah. So but 1991 01:58:16,949 --> 01:58:18,929 there's only two things I thought were interesting one. 1992 01:58:18,929 --> 01:58:21,449 Well, there was two little things up and it was about that 1993 01:58:21,449 --> 01:58:25,499 balloons. And this is sy hearse on the Alaska balloon, that 1994 01:58:25,499 --> 01:58:26,039 balloon 1995 01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:30,480 Unknown: and indeed the shooting down of the Balloon. Balloon is 1996 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,670 going to tell you a little bit about the balloons. Yeah. 1997 01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:37,500 I asked somebody about AI friends and I said what what's 1998 01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:39,630 going on with the balloons? Of course, they've been there 1999 01:58:39,630 --> 01:58:44,340 forever. Maybe you could argue they could take photographs of 2000 01:58:44,340 --> 01:58:48,150 weather satellite could see much better. But basically the last 2001 01:58:48,150 --> 01:58:51,780 way though the unnamed car like with American press so full of 2002 01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:55,770 it. It turns out there's the federal government has a 2003 01:58:55,770 --> 01:58:58,380 contract with with the Meteorology Department or 2004 01:58:58,380 --> 01:59:00,720 whatever it is weather department at the University of 2005 01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,870 Alaska in Fairbanks. And that is one coal place. It's way up 2006 01:59:03,870 --> 01:59:06,930 there. Also, most of the classes are underground. You go 2007 01:59:07,020 --> 01:59:09,900 underground. The classes I spoken there I know about this 2008 01:59:10,050 --> 01:59:14,580 firsthand. And over the Arctic Circle is the Arctic Circle is a 2009 01:59:15,060 --> 01:59:18,870 the everybody flies the polar room from Europe, from Asia to 2010 01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:23,850 America. And there's no weather station there. So the university 2011 01:59:24,030 --> 01:59:28,590 put has these little vehicles that goes and reports. Pilots 2012 01:59:28,590 --> 01:59:31,410 want to know if there's any unusual weather going on. That's 2013 01:59:31,410 --> 01:59:35,130 what you have to do. And they are reporters of that, that that 2014 01:59:35,130 --> 01:59:37,830 information. And that's what was shot down. One of those things 2015 01:59:37,830 --> 01:59:40,710 was shot down was one of those units that is sent up by a 2016 01:59:40,710 --> 01:59:42,810 university under but paid by the government. 2017 01:59:44,130 --> 01:59:45,660 Adam Curry: Yeah, I didn't know that. That was pretty 2018 01:59:45,660 --> 01:59:46,980 interesting. Yeah, 2019 01:59:46,980 --> 01:59:48,750 John C Dvorak: I thought that was good too. But then he has a 2020 01:59:48,750 --> 01:59:53,910 real screwball story about the F 22. And as shooting down to 2021 01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:57,660 balloon and this is I recorded it and put this on here because 2022 01:59:57,660 --> 01:59:58,830 I thought it was funny, 2023 01:59:59,010 --> 02:00:02,310 Unknown: but a lot of money for the was 22 and its first kill 2024 02:00:02,430 --> 02:00:05,220 was the first balloon that when that one came over was 2025 02:00:05,220 --> 02:00:10,470 discovered over Montana and the pilot and I'd like to think that 2026 02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:14,070 he knows exactly what he's doing when he landed you know in World 2027 02:00:14,070 --> 02:00:17,880 War Two your guys and your Spitfires and I said RP 50 ones 2028 02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:19,830 you took care of every Messerschmitt you put a little 2029 02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:23,790 you painted on the side of decal for the kills. We did the same 2030 02:00:23,790 --> 02:00:29,130 and in Asia when the RP RP 50 ones so the pilot of this f 22 2031 02:00:29,130 --> 02:00:34,380 Getting the first kill of this plane painted a blue on the side 2032 02:00:34,380 --> 02:00:37,290 of a sash fictionalized I'd love to think he was joking I don't 2033 02:00:37,290 --> 02:00:39,570 know that I know he did it. I don't know whether what was in 2034 02:00:39,570 --> 02:00:42,780 the state of mind. But that's what we're doing now. We've got 2035 02:00:42,780 --> 02:00:46,050 to kill we kill the balloon. That's worth a couple. Couple of 2036 02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:48,060 few 100 billion dollars for a plane. 2037 02:00:49,230 --> 02:00:51,720 Adam Curry: It's such a joke and I think all of that balloon 2038 02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,810 stuff that was just there to distract everyone from Hirsch's 2039 02:00:54,810 --> 02:00:55,980 actual report. 2040 02:00:56,849 --> 02:00:59,069 John C Dvorak: I believe you I think so too. 2041 02:00:59,099 --> 02:00:59,969 Adam Curry: You do believe? 2042 02:01:00,570 --> 02:01:01,830 John C Dvorak: I do believe? 2043 02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:06,810 Adam Curry: certainly seems like that. Most definitely. Yeah. 2044 02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:10,800 Well, Russell Brand what does he have 6 million subscribers on 2045 02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:14,520 his YouTube? I sure does. He didn't he? I think he's on 2046 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,050 rumble now too, as a backup. 2047 02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:17,400 John C Dvorak: This was on rumble. 2048 02:01:18,209 --> 02:01:20,489 Adam Curry: Oh good. He's gonna need that. He's gonna need that. 2049 02:01:21,149 --> 02:01:24,809 Will's gonna He's gonna need that. And with that, I'd like to 2050 02:01:24,809 --> 02:01:27,149 thank you for your courage so in the morning to you the man who 2051 02:01:27,149 --> 02:01:30,179 put the seat and call it advertising ladies and gentlemen 2052 02:01:30,179 --> 02:01:32,549 please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John 2053 02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:38,160 John C Dvorak: Darren O'Neill and you there i in the morning 2054 02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:40,680 to you in the morning all ships to see boots on the ground feet 2055 02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:43,800 in the air subs in the water and all the dams and nice out there 2056 02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:48,660 you one foot 1.5 speed slower down. This is good stuff here. 2057 02:01:48,780 --> 02:01:50,460 Adam Curry: I'm gonna have to do that from time to time when 2058 02:01:50,460 --> 02:01:52,860 people go oh, I just heard someone talking in normal 2059 02:01:52,860 --> 02:01:56,460 parlance. That's right in the morning to all the trolls in our 2060 02:01:56,460 --> 02:02:00,570 troll room troll room.io Let's see these are the people who 2061 02:02:00,570 --> 02:02:03,780 hang out there have been very helpful actually today, except 2062 02:02:03,780 --> 02:02:07,200 for blue Deus 33 Now for some reason I can't keep people out 2063 02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,080 anymore. There's something wrong. I don't have the power. I 2064 02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:14,460 don't have any more God power so I'm feel bad. And the trolls 2065 02:02:14,490 --> 02:02:18,150 they listen live. You can do that by getting a modern podcast 2066 02:02:18,150 --> 02:02:22,050 app with a new domain name podcast apps.com You don't have 2067 02:02:22,050 --> 02:02:24,450 to put the new in front of it. Now you can pick up one of those 2068 02:02:24,450 --> 02:02:28,020 apps that will alert you to when we're going live or late as we 2069 02:02:28,020 --> 02:02:32,880 say in podcasting 2.0 language. I like pod verse podcast attic 2070 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:36,570 does you can also listen live on curio caster, you'll get the the 2071 02:02:36,570 --> 02:02:39,120 troll room right there with the live stream the same place you 2072 02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,450 get your podcast apps. And a reminder, if you want to try out 2073 02:02:42,450 --> 02:02:45,960 a different podcast app, you can export all your podcasts from 2074 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:49,890 the current one you're using it and import it into a new one. So 2075 02:02:49,890 --> 02:02:57,690 you don't really miss out on anything. Today, what is good 2076 02:02:57,690 --> 02:02:59,160 for Thursday? 2077 02:03:00,450 --> 02:03:02,820 John C Dvorak: 18th 18th Hundreds Yeah, we're low 2078 02:03:02,820 --> 02:03:10,320 Adam Curry: 1721 Oh, my ad? Oh, oh. Oh, no. We've lost all our 2079 02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:15,270 trolls. Oh, my goodness. And we love the troll so much. Well, we 2080 02:03:15,270 --> 02:03:18,390 hope you come back or at least we hope that you hang out, hang 2081 02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:21,900 out with us at no agenda. social.com probably the most 2082 02:03:21,900 --> 02:03:26,700 blocked instance in the fediverse There's reasons. And 2083 02:03:26,700 --> 02:03:30,390 we were happy about that. That's the way it should be. That's how 2084 02:03:30,390 --> 02:03:34,260 the internet should work. If you don't like something, it's a bug 2085 02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:38,280 just route around it as perfect perfectly. Okay, follow Jhansi 2086 02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:41,940 Dvorak had no agenda social.com or Adam at no agenda social.com 2087 02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,790 And I would like to thank the artists who brought us the 2088 02:03:44,790 --> 02:03:49,830 artwork for episode 1531 We titled that one the dead name. 2089 02:03:50,310 --> 02:03:54,510 And you know, I have to say that just didn't feel like there was 2090 02:03:54,510 --> 02:03:59,640 a lot and a funny enough for the rant I put out about Tucker 2091 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:04,080 Carlson and Don Lemon. The best art which we kind of liked was 2092 02:04:04,110 --> 02:04:09,090 the lemon sour sour puss punch, which had a caricature of Don 2093 02:04:09,090 --> 02:04:13,470 Lemon on the bike as a lemon as a lemon. It was a I thought it 2094 02:04:13,470 --> 02:04:15,450 was a good caricature it really 2095 02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:18,960 John C Dvorak: on the on the webpage popped like hell I 2096 02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,290 didn't realize how good that thing looks when it was actually 2097 02:04:22,590 --> 02:04:23,310 produced. No 2098 02:04:23,310 --> 02:04:27,240 Adam Curry: It popped massively neck networks did this by the 2099 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:31,320 way. And I a lot of people got it. They thought it was funny, 2100 02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:36,900 but I don't know. It feels like I mean, even today I'm seeing 2101 02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,860 kind of a low turnout on the arts. I mean, it's possible that 2102 02:04:40,860 --> 02:04:43,620 people have other things to do it is after all, it's still 2103 02:04:43,620 --> 02:04:49,590 black history month. We had Presidents Day on Monday, which 2104 02:04:50,430 --> 02:04:53,880 mountain Jay was just swinging for the fences on trying to get 2105 02:04:54,690 --> 02:05:00,990 a president sale best price with coins Let's discuss this job 2106 02:05:00,990 --> 02:05:04,200 because I think sometimes artists when they're just trying 2107 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:08,670 to swing at it and art director was comic strip blogger I see. 2108 02:05:09,630 --> 02:05:13,710 Oh, there you go. Now I know what the problem was. Mountain J 2109 02:05:13,710 --> 02:05:16,590 worked with comic strip blogger on trying to create a piece that 2110 02:05:16,590 --> 02:05:23,640 would win that kind of that kind of makes it understandable Can 2111 02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,550 you explain how this how wrong this was in this case? 2112 02:05:27,390 --> 02:05:30,180 John C Dvorak: Which one now the coins the President's Day sale 2113 02:05:30,210 --> 02:05:32,400 the coins they were posted to live? 2114 02:05:32,940 --> 02:05:35,010 Adam Curry: Yeah, eight times over they were posted. 2115 02:05:35,849 --> 02:05:40,529 John C Dvorak: Did it just was not it was this is an example of 2116 02:05:40,529 --> 02:05:46,739 an artist getting a hair up their ass and knowing there's 2117 02:05:46,739 --> 02:05:49,379 something there but they can't get it themselves. In fact, if 2118 02:05:49,379 --> 02:05:52,409 you I will tell you this if an artist repeats the same piece 2119 02:05:52,409 --> 02:05:55,019 over and over and starts changing things, yes. And they 2120 02:05:55,019 --> 02:05:58,679 don't have confidence in the piece, right? It's just saying 2121 02:05:58,679 --> 02:06:01,679 Well, maybe if I did this, maybe if I did this before we even 2122 02:06:01,709 --> 02:06:05,279 looked at it once right? And so they're already so this kind of 2123 02:06:05,279 --> 02:06:07,499 a giveaway that there's something amiss now once in a 2124 02:06:07,499 --> 02:06:10,559 while you see a couple of maybe two variations on something or 2125 02:06:10,559 --> 02:06:13,469 somebody just changes the background and okay, that kind 2126 02:06:13,469 --> 02:06:15,869 of works I think I don't know what the what the point of these 2127 02:06:15,869 --> 02:06:16,469 coins Well 2128 02:06:16,470 --> 02:06:20,100 Adam Curry: I think what happened was it might might have 2129 02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:26,490 been mountain J to almost one the episode before or maybe even 2130 02:06:26,490 --> 02:06:31,200 one before that, which was the best price and we chose for I 2131 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:34,440 think some Balloon Art. Let me see if that was mountain J 2132 02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:37,530 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was the balloon or no that was to 2133 02:06:37,530 --> 02:06:40,290 Neil and I was talking to Neil it was Tanzania and it was a 2134 02:06:40,290 --> 02:06:42,030 balloon is shaped like a heart 2135 02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,300 Adam Curry: yes that's the one we wound up choosing but so for 2136 02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:50,100 some reason best price that that that I think that's really more 2137 02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:52,650 of an inside joke and it only works when you do it with a 2138 02:06:52,650 --> 02:06:56,070 racist acts and best price doesn't really work otherwise. 2139 02:06:56,970 --> 02:06:58,650 So I have a feeling that that somehow they got 2140 02:06:58,650 --> 02:07:01,470 John C Dvorak: mixed up her last one which is the prison sale 2141 02:07:01,470 --> 02:07:05,550 best price. Yeah. And I don't know wishes custom licensed to 2142 02:07:05,550 --> 02:07:08,730 art what was licensed? What uh, 2143 02:07:09,270 --> 02:07:15,090 Adam Curry: I don't know. They can't they lag maybe but you 2144 02:07:15,090 --> 02:07:18,180 know, if you look down below it's like comic strip blogger 2145 02:07:18,180 --> 02:07:20,370 was the art director I mean, that's sudden death right there 2146 02:07:20,370 --> 02:07:23,370 why would you take our direction from comics or Blogger or he 2147 02:07:23,370 --> 02:07:24,420 does his butts 2148 02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:30,270 John C Dvorak: well now he's doing almost exclusively Yeah, 2149 02:07:30,690 --> 02:07:35,160 AI art AI art to some of his pretty good I liked his piece 2150 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:38,820 but it was never gonna get picked which was the Biden one 2151 02:07:38,820 --> 02:07:43,140 when he looks like he's just a skirt crazy Biden picture it was 2152 02:07:43,140 --> 02:07:45,150 nice was it two shows ago maybe 2153 02:07:45,210 --> 02:07:47,850 Adam Curry: no L L Biden. l Biden. 2154 02:07:47,850 --> 02:07:51,300 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Peace 2155 02:07:52,530 --> 02:07:54,510 Adam Curry: see what else would we have nothing else here 2156 02:07:54,510 --> 02:07:56,820 John C Dvorak: was really that great. I mean, I did use another 2157 02:07:56,820 --> 02:08:00,360 nest workspace for the newsletter which was the this 2158 02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:06,660 false claims sauce with Oh, like I care a cartoon eyes version 2159 02:08:06,660 --> 02:08:08,670 looks like a cartoon eyes version of 2160 02:08:08,700 --> 02:08:09,990 Adam Curry: clamshell Schiff 2161 02:08:11,130 --> 02:08:13,980 John C Dvorak: No, that's holding it Yeah. I think it's 2162 02:08:13,980 --> 02:08:16,680 supposed to be ship I don't know it could be anybody but he's got 2163 02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:19,530 any holding this can it's just a nice pretty piece and he's got 2164 02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,920 this little thing in the background of the guy's head 2165 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:26,130 that whatever is called his name for it. 2166 02:08:26,700 --> 02:08:30,540 Adam Curry: So other choices that we had we need more ammo 2167 02:08:30,540 --> 02:08:33,510 that didn't really work there wasn't a lot of lot of choice. I 2168 02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:38,610 don't Raph there was a made Marriott kind of a joker piece 2169 02:08:38,610 --> 02:08:42,630 but that you know had a number on we try not to use episode 2170 02:08:42,660 --> 02:08:48,390 number art. No agenda Google ITM was nice piece, but now didn't 2171 02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:53,400 really take us the Tesla recall by capitalist agenda. No. And 2172 02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:59,160 just I didn't get that one. And that was kind of it. But what 2173 02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:01,920 else? There wasn't a lot of offering. No, I 2174 02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:02,820 John C Dvorak: thought it was flat. 2175 02:09:04,620 --> 02:09:07,500 Adam Curry: Your flat, everybody's flat and still 2176 02:09:07,500 --> 02:09:11,070 looking flat. So we can get something good for this. This 2177 02:09:11,070 --> 02:09:14,460 episode. Maybe ever and maybe everyone's broke and out of 2178 02:09:14,460 --> 02:09:15,120 ideas 2179 02:09:16,019 --> 02:09:17,969 John C Dvorak: broken out of a company and just like a 2180 02:09:17,969 --> 02:09:20,909 depression. I've always said to depression people don't 2181 02:09:20,909 --> 02:09:23,669 understand what a depression is. They have this you know reasons 2182 02:09:23,669 --> 02:09:26,849 you can do some calculation or unit of depression. People are 2183 02:09:26,879 --> 02:09:31,589 depressed in a depression. But also he gets called a depressed 2184 02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:35,429 because they're literally depressed. He's not really want 2185 02:09:35,429 --> 02:09:35,909 to go to work. 2186 02:09:36,330 --> 02:09:39,930 Adam Curry: So that during bad economic times and depressions, 2187 02:09:40,050 --> 02:09:42,210 some of the best art is created. 2188 02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:45,540 John C Dvorak: I'm beginning to think that's a myth, I think was 2189 02:09:45,540 --> 02:09:45,750 doing 2190 02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:50,520 Adam Curry: some of our best work personally. Maybe, 2191 02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:54,390 personally, I think we're knocking it out of the park 2192 02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:58,290 here. If you listen at one time speed, otherwise Yeah, it all 2193 02:09:58,290 --> 02:10:03,150 just blends together. Maybe people have just gone nuts. Now 2194 02:10:03,180 --> 02:10:10,110 if it's not the outrage of the day, then whatever. We've been 2195 02:10:10,110 --> 02:10:12,690 through these cycles, we've seen it all. We've seen it all. 2196 02:10:13,050 --> 02:10:15,810 outrage of the day. Congratulations to networks. 2197 02:10:15,810 --> 02:10:19,110 Thank you so much with this equal opportunity offenders here 2198 02:10:19,110 --> 02:10:22,050 for anybody who wants to try their hand at creating the art 2199 02:10:22,050 --> 02:10:25,950 that we'll use for episode 1532 which is this one. By the way, I 2200 02:10:25,950 --> 02:10:29,880 really liked that graffiti as you would call graffiti from 2201 02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:31,080 flood comment city. 2202 02:10:31,530 --> 02:10:33,360 John C Dvorak: I liked that piece a lot. Yeah, but it says 2203 02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:37,200 1532 We don't typically it is it is 1532. I know we don't 2204 02:10:37,470 --> 02:10:40,290 typically pick Nutella typically. But we've done it a 2205 02:10:40,290 --> 02:10:43,170 lot. So that's a nice summary. You can't beat that piece. I'm 2206 02:10:43,170 --> 02:10:43,860 voting so 2207 02:10:43,860 --> 02:10:46,590 Adam Curry: so far so far. Looks good. You can follow along no 2208 02:10:46,590 --> 02:10:49,980 agenda, our generator.com or one of those new podcast apps 2209 02:10:49,980 --> 02:10:54,330 podcast apps.com. All of them have the have the chapter 2210 02:10:54,330 --> 02:10:58,680 feature. And our very own Dred Scott does those after the fact 2211 02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:01,560 adds them all in and adds a lot of the art that didn't make it 2212 02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:04,500 which is a fun way to display that as well. And of course, 2213 02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:07,500 some of this art actually winds up in no agenda shop.com I saw a 2214 02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:11,070 new piece. The appetite for deconstruction is apparently now 2215 02:11:11,070 --> 02:11:14,220 on hoodies and T shirts and mugs. I can't wait to buy a 2216 02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:17,940 couple of them. I need a new hoodie. And that is you know 2217 02:11:17,940 --> 02:11:20,280 that's the the art that you didn't like the one with the 2218 02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:25,170 skulls. Yeah, the Guns and Roses. Dead logo to me is it's 2219 02:11:25,170 --> 02:11:28,230 actually taken from Guns and Roses Appetite for Destruction. 2220 02:11:28,980 --> 02:11:33,630 So it's a it's a spoof, but I think it's beautiful. I want 2221 02:11:33,630 --> 02:11:35,940 when no agenda shop not affiliated with no agenda, 2222 02:11:36,090 --> 02:11:37,860 John C Dvorak: right in your Texas Hill Country. That's 2223 02:11:37,860 --> 02:11:39,420 Adam Curry: right. That's what we're a bunch of hillbillies 2224 02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:42,450 over here. And thank you of course networks and thanks to 2225 02:11:42,450 --> 02:11:44,880 all the artists you know, we give you these reviews because 2226 02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,430 no one else will be honest with you. We are and we and we 2227 02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:51,030 appreciate all the work that goes into it. Of course, we as 2228 02:11:51,030 --> 02:11:54,600 with all the things everyone does. 150 emails a day of people 2229 02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:59,940 with ideas with stories, with boots on the ground reports with 2230 02:11:59,970 --> 02:12:04,680 jingles with clips. It really is a time talent and treasure 2231 02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,650 mission is value for value and we'd like to thank we're gonna 2232 02:12:07,650 --> 02:12:10,860 thank everybody all in one go. We can do it once again. No two 2233 02:12:10,890 --> 02:12:14,910 no two segments necessary. And we start off with our executive 2234 02:12:14,910 --> 02:12:18,780 producers $300 and above of course Associate Executive 2235 02:12:18,780 --> 02:12:22,830 Producers 200 between 203 100 and kicking it off from Glen 2236 02:12:22,830 --> 02:12:30,450 Gardner New Jersey with $1,000 Sir never PC who says Dear John 2237 02:12:30,450 --> 02:12:32,940 Adam, thanks for your insights into the real truth behind the 2238 02:12:32,940 --> 02:12:37,920 deluge of propaganda we are bludgeoned with daily now there 2239 02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:41,400 it is. That's exactly what we legend we are we we protect you 2240 02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:43,620 from the bludgeoning I was hitting the mouth while 2241 02:12:43,620 --> 02:12:48,720 listening to Adam on the Jay ar e. Joe Rogan donation about a 2242 02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:51,930 year ago and have been an avid convert ever since. Well, you 2243 02:12:51,930 --> 02:12:55,830 don't have to convert you can stay a Jerry listeners Well, in 2244 02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:58,230 exchange for jingles and karma. I'd appreciate if you'd let me 2245 02:12:58,230 --> 02:13:02,130 shamelessly promote my revolutionary product that I 2246 02:13:02,130 --> 02:13:05,400 know can change the world. Oh yeah, this is great. This, this 2247 02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:08,100 is this is okay. Here's someone who understands value for 2248 02:13:08,100 --> 02:13:13,170 values. Here you go. My company is fuel ox fuel ox.com If you 2249 02:13:13,170 --> 02:13:17,850 elox.com And all of our products are sustainably focused. Our 2250 02:13:17,850 --> 02:13:20,820 infinity lubes are revolutionary, as they 2251 02:13:20,820 --> 02:13:24,570 outperform all others on the planet by hundreds of percent 2252 02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:28,290 and are completely non toxic and plant based. 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And the 2263 02:14:06,180 --> 02:14:09,360 question I have is does it stack up against ranch hand? 2264 02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:14,700 John C Dvorak: Well, he's gonna send me some and YouTube No, I 2265 02:14:14,700 --> 02:14:17,490 wouldn't I'd love lube if you give him an address. 2266 02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:19,770 Adam Curry: I gave him my Pio box. 2267 02:14:20,130 --> 02:14:23,790 John C Dvorak: Oh, well then you'll get it. He I don't know I 2268 02:14:23,790 --> 02:14:27,090 don't know of any I don't know. Jimmy there's lubricants come 2269 02:14:27,090 --> 02:14:30,360 from everywhere and they're a lot of merges chemicals, they 2270 02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:37,080 have to have high lubrication factors. Poly Alpha olefins one 2271 02:14:37,080 --> 02:14:41,460 of them which is synthetic oils and which is one type of synth 2272 02:14:41,490 --> 02:14:47,370 dedic oil. I'll give it a shot. I mean, I like some something 2273 02:14:47,370 --> 02:14:50,400 that especially I got these, this little bottle of micro lube 2274 02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:54,810 is very, to put one small drop on something it's just think 2275 02:14:54,810 --> 02:14:59,340 goes nuts. So it's possible. It could be great stuff, but I 2276 02:14:59,340 --> 02:15:04,560 think he's wrong. Long about DoD hated by a small market, the big 2277 02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:09,690 oil companies don't care at all it but if you're if you make a 2278 02:15:09,690 --> 02:15:11,490 success out of it and you actually threaten their 2279 02:15:11,490 --> 02:15:15,000 business, they'll give you a lot of money to buy you out and do 2280 02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,210 it and then put their name on it and say hey, we're plant based, 2281 02:15:18,660 --> 02:15:21,510 right? It's bullcrap that part of it. I don't like that kind of 2282 02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:27,120 awkward promotion. You're not hated in other words. 2283 02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:30,360 Adam Curry: No, not by us. I love lube. 2284 02:15:31,710 --> 02:15:33,630 John C Dvorak: I bet you do. Hey, 2285 02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,600 Adam Curry: thank you very much sir never PC and 2286 02:15:37,140 --> 02:15:39,330 John C Dvorak: give it a try. We will promote him he'll give him 2287 02:15:39,330 --> 02:15:40,920 a plug and free plug in. 2288 02:15:41,790 --> 02:15:44,220 Adam Curry: Yeah, and I'll play that jingle as we end up the 2289 02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:46,020 donation segment that's what we use it for. 2290 02:15:48,300 --> 02:15:51,870 John C Dvorak: To onward with Dame Lady Bird in Provence all 2291 02:15:51,870 --> 02:16:00,900 Louisiana six it and she writes a handwritten note. No, I have 2292 02:16:00,900 --> 02:16:06,960 it. I can make noise with it. Enclosed find my V four v 2293 02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:12,960 contribution of six the fifth years if they figured that means 2294 02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:17,520 a fifth years mammogram post breast cancer came back clear 2295 02:16:17,550 --> 02:16:22,140 Yeah. This was great news for me as my chances of recurrence are 2296 02:16:22,140 --> 02:16:26,580 reduced twice. Please may have an F cancer for all of those out 2297 02:16:26,580 --> 02:16:29,310 there still fighting it and a health karma for everyone. Thank 2298 02:16:29,310 --> 02:16:34,290 you for Oh 651 of this contribution puts me at barren 2299 02:16:34,290 --> 02:16:38,640 net tests. And I think she's unless yes so barren net this 2300 02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:43,440 lady bird Eagle of the Toledo Bend. If it please the peerage 2301 02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:47,520 committee will be my new title. I could never afford how much 2302 02:16:47,670 --> 02:16:52,740 you are worth to me. Love is lit. No regret, just aim 2303 02:16:52,740 --> 02:16:56,010 ladybird. I will say that she right hand wrote this letter 2304 02:16:56,040 --> 02:17:02,400 beautiful. And it's in. It's printed in all caps. But it's 2305 02:17:02,490 --> 02:17:07,710 really nice. very readable. So it's like you read it. It's like 2306 02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:10,470 a like a radio read and everything's all caps. 2307 02:17:16,530 --> 02:17:18,210 Unknown: You've got karma. 2308 02:17:19,590 --> 02:17:22,650 John C Dvorak: So she has a good hand as they like to say. 2309 02:17:24,090 --> 02:17:29,340 Adam Curry: Indeed. I guess I'm up here and we go. Randy Carlson 2310 02:17:29,370 --> 02:17:34,800 Pahrump. Nevada. Our rump pa rump, our favorite executive 2311 02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:37,800 producer donation amount we always ask for it. Three Three 2312 02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:42,420 3.33 Switcheroo this birthday 23rd of February credit belongs 2313 02:17:42,420 --> 02:17:47,190 to Dame Sam Cat of southern Knight County. And he says 2314 02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:50,940 jingles tortoise in the race and go karma. Yeah, tortoise in the 2315 02:17:50,940 --> 02:17:57,720 race is not actually a separate jingle. It's it's one of the 2316 02:17:57,750 --> 02:18:00,240 it's one of the sharpens. I'll see maybe it's in here. 2317 02:18:00,270 --> 02:18:05,520 Unknown: Thank you. Is this Crown Hall day two we're 2318 02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:11,520 watching. That was Attorney General Eric Holder add about 2319 02:18:11,550 --> 02:18:16,710 some Republicans at home already beating the 2320 02:18:16,710 --> 02:18:18,780 Adam Curry: drum Good to hear Sharpton again actually has a 2321 02:18:18,780 --> 02:18:19,650 wall today 2322 02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:23,010 Unknown: the Pentagon refuted that claim. And he said the 2323 02:18:23,010 --> 02:18:28,200 American people do not want him to quote griddling either they 2324 02:18:28,200 --> 02:18:32,040 do not want him twiddling his thumbs get a gig as a 2325 02:18:32,790 --> 02:18:37,890 contortionist intravenous fluids and pills coated with galet 2326 02:18:38,190 --> 02:18:44,550 genetic we don't leave our women of women women or men in uniform 2327 02:18:44,550 --> 02:18:48,750 behind a mighty men to the uterus of Dick Cheney, 2328 02:18:48,780 --> 02:18:54,120 Representative Raul our Labrador years of a brute of abuse. I've 2329 02:18:54,120 --> 02:19:00,360 personally apologize to Mr. P vis just asked the former 2330 02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:06,300 Congress of Democrats outright Jide. Countering counter tourism 2331 02:19:06,570 --> 02:19:14,070 Counterterrorism Center not in here, Secretary Shin sketti Why 2332 02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:18,540 do I always mess up the name Shinseki? I love my criticize 2333 02:19:18,540 --> 02:19:19,830 now that couldn't find 2334 02:19:19,830 --> 02:19:24,000 Adam Curry: it. Sorry. You've got it'll have to do. 2335 02:19:24,719 --> 02:19:27,509 John C Dvorak: I did find sir Vegas King and lost wages in 2336 02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:29,759 Nevada, which is near Pahrump. 2337 02:19:29,940 --> 02:19:31,860 Adam Curry: No Is it now? Yeah. 2338 02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:36,660 John C Dvorak: And if I get the power wrong could be called a 2339 02:19:36,690 --> 02:19:42,990 suburb. 33333 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I cannot express 2340 02:19:42,990 --> 02:19:47,280 the joy and info you have brought us so much to say about 2341 02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:51,360 life and how Vegas is is and isn't doing well after the 2342 02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:55,620 shutdown. Maybe more on another note. Yes, I'd like to hear 2343 02:19:55,620 --> 02:19:58,320 about that myself. We'd love boots on the ground. Sure. Vegas 2344 02:19:58,320 --> 02:20:05,160 King and Stephanie. I watch Sin City church.com Each week 2345 02:20:05,940 --> 02:20:07,740 another plug for something we don't know about 2346 02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:13,020 Adam Curry: 333 from surrounded by my privilege I'm making this 2347 02:20:13,020 --> 02:20:15,960 donation as a way of saying thank you for your courage and 2348 02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:18,570 to return value not only for these twice weekly amygdala 2349 02:20:18,570 --> 02:20:20,760 shrinking therapy sessions, but also because of just how 2350 02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:26,580 generous you are with your time I will let me read I don't know 2351 02:20:26,580 --> 02:20:29,100 how you do it with Oh, I think he's talking to me. They 2352 02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:32,520 certainly not talking about you. I don't know how to how you do 2353 02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:35,310 it with all you have going on in your life a wildly successful 2354 02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:38,160 podcast developing Oh, yes. Oh, and this is flattering, 2355 02:20:38,430 --> 02:20:41,460 developing podcast. 2.0 undergoing serious health 2356 02:20:41,460 --> 02:20:44,130 challenges a keeper to keep yet none of this prevents you from 2357 02:20:44,130 --> 02:20:47,130 maintaining a dedication to your producers with a level of 2358 02:20:47,130 --> 02:20:50,850 accessibility that is unmatched in media and entertainment. 2359 02:20:51,090 --> 02:20:54,810 Nearly every nearly every time I've reached out with a question 2360 02:20:54,810 --> 02:20:59,910 about OTG phones or audio drift from double ending. You've taken 2361 02:20:59,940 --> 02:21:02,940 that you've talked to the loop guy, you've taken the time to 2362 02:21:02,940 --> 02:21:06,030 respond that is true class setting the standard for all to 2363 02:21:06,030 --> 02:21:09,030 follow is not that hard to answer an email that and that 2364 02:21:09,060 --> 02:21:13,380 that I learned from my colleague, John C. Dvorak, no 2365 02:21:13,380 --> 02:21:16,530 jingles no karma no promoting the new podcasts I'm producing 2366 02:21:16,530 --> 02:21:18,990 which is by far the best one in my zip code if you include the 2367 02:21:18,990 --> 02:21:22,020 plus four we can do that a number time this is just to say 2368 02:21:22,020 --> 02:21:24,900 thank you for all you do you and John do and express my 2369 02:21:24,900 --> 02:21:28,380 appreciation for every last producer of the no agenda 2370 02:21:28,380 --> 02:21:33,240 podcast sincerely, Andrew aka surrounded by my privilege was 2371 02:21:33,240 --> 02:21:34,080 very nice. 2372 02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,950 John C Dvorak: Thank you so much. Yeah, it was nice. QQ is 2373 02:21:37,950 --> 02:21:41,430 up next I'll get the next two because QQ from Key West Florida 2374 02:21:41,490 --> 02:21:44,850 I know I can't find a notes are in 33 dogs but a double the 2375 02:21:44,850 --> 02:21:45,660 Carmine tonight would 2376 02:21:45,660 --> 02:21:48,780 Adam Curry: be Yeah, can I just say so I know. Q Q have met Q Q. 2377 02:21:49,500 --> 02:21:56,760 He was QQ like QQ is very Russian like but he's he's not 2378 02:21:56,760 --> 02:22:01,080 he's, I think he's from Moldova. And he's been giving a lot of 2379 02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:03,720 insight to the bullcrap there so it's been giving me boots on the 2380 02:22:03,720 --> 02:22:07,410 ground reports nothing that we are good for QQ QQ is very cool, 2381 02:22:07,410 --> 02:22:09,540 but I will give him a double karma. He deserves that for 2382 02:22:09,540 --> 02:22:13,650 sure. He's got karma. 2383 02:22:15,150 --> 02:22:18,480 John C Dvorak: That brings me to Dustin EQ in Williamsport, 2384 02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:21,510 Pennsylvania. And he came in with 333 2385 02:22:21,540 --> 02:22:23,340 Adam Curry: times where my family lives in Williamsport. 2386 02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:25,170 Oh, yeah, 2387 02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:29,250 John C Dvorak: ITM gentleman another Rogan donation been an 2388 02:22:29,250 --> 02:22:32,190 avid listener for over two years and this is my first donation of 2389 02:22:32,190 --> 02:22:34,860 V for V finally hit me in the mouth and brought me to my 2390 02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:43,980 senses. I would like to call out Zack Jeff and Jimmy. Zack do 2391 02:22:43,980 --> 02:22:54,300 Jeff Jimmy those three are all douchebags time to S H I T or 2392 02:22:54,300 --> 02:22:59,730 get off the pot boys little phrase. Anyway the work you guys 2393 02:22:59,730 --> 02:23:05,730 do is very under appreciated. We both agree with that. And I just 2394 02:23:05,730 --> 02:23:09,120 hope this small donation will help keep you guys around that 2395 02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:11,370 much longer. No jingles No comment. Just keep up the good 2396 02:23:11,370 --> 02:23:11,640 work. 2397 02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:13,890 Adam Curry: That's exactly how that thank you so much. That's 2398 02:23:13,890 --> 02:23:16,530 exactly how you have to think if you'd like that little store on 2399 02:23:16,530 --> 02:23:19,170 the corner and you don't go in and buy something from time to 2400 02:23:19,170 --> 02:23:22,140 time that little store on the corner will eventually go away 2401 02:23:22,140 --> 02:23:25,050 and you'll be sad. That's how you should look at it. So we're 2402 02:23:25,050 --> 02:23:28,020 just a little store on the corner of Maine. Don't think 2403 02:23:28,020 --> 02:23:33,420 much of Maine and the hood. Brian P Belen is in Asbury, New 2404 02:23:33,420 --> 02:23:36,630 Jersey. First Associate Executive Producer to one $50 2405 02:23:36,630 --> 02:23:39,510 Thanks for a great show. Please explain that vasectomy looks 2406 02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:43,230 better. wife wants me to get one I'm not down for it. Need more 2407 02:23:43,230 --> 02:23:46,800 reasons. Okay, we go to our resident vasectomy expert, 2408 02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:50,730 Jhansi Dvorak, who was developed and proven his theory multiple 2409 02:23:50,730 --> 02:23:51,330 times. 2410 02:23:52,410 --> 02:23:56,520 John C Dvorak: Well, I've started with a 1923. As when 2411 02:23:56,520 --> 02:24:00,120 vasectomy became popular, it was it was just a coincidence that 2412 02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:05,970 they noticed this is that a vasectomy was the substitute 2413 02:24:07,050 --> 02:24:12,690 earlier for de balling castrating prisoners who were 2414 02:24:12,690 --> 02:24:15,870 Sex Criminals when they had other issues. And they noticed 2415 02:24:15,870 --> 02:24:19,710 that a doctor would cut these guys balls off and then the guy 2416 02:24:19,710 --> 02:24:23,910 would come when he got out of prison and go kill the guy. So 2417 02:24:25,650 --> 02:24:28,980 oh, so that was working out. So they just so they came up with 2418 02:24:28,980 --> 02:24:32,280 this operation where they did this, what's essential, which 2419 02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:36,390 became a vasectomy, which they accomplish the same thing. In 2420 02:24:36,390 --> 02:24:41,640 other words, you got D nutted. And but it was the guy looked 2421 02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:44,820 down a look fine. It is too dumb to know that anything happened. 2422 02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:48,180 So he didn't get killed the doctor event but they started 2423 02:24:48,180 --> 02:24:52,950 noticing that these guys started to have a youthful look. as they 2424 02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:57,060 got older they started looking like young lesbians, but they 2425 02:24:57,060 --> 02:25:00,360 still it was useful. You look good. Yes, that's gain was 2426 02:25:00,360 --> 02:25:02,790 smooth and in so many wrinkles there was a number of things and 2427 02:25:02,790 --> 02:25:06,630 it became a rage in the 20s and there's a lot of research done 2428 02:25:06,780 --> 02:25:10,980 on not only you look better, but you also you might live longer 2429 02:25:10,980 --> 02:25:14,940 there's a million reasons these vasectomies were used for this 2430 02:25:14,940 --> 02:25:19,800 but but it was also noticed by myself and others that the look 2431 02:25:19,980 --> 02:25:25,530 was really a lay it all lesbian look developed it regular matter 2432 02:25:25,530 --> 02:25:29,760 a while then you started look like an old woman you had in the 2433 02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:34,560 skin was white is not a good thing. So I just waited P I 2434 02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,920 tried to dissuade people from getting vasectomy is but most of 2435 02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:42,390 the time the women have it, you know, the the spouse look, 2436 02:25:43,020 --> 02:25:45,000 Adam Curry: if she wants it, and you're gonna do it, she got you 2437 02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:48,990 by the balls already, brother. So you might as well just get 2438 02:25:48,990 --> 02:25:49,200 get 2439 02:25:50,520 --> 02:25:52,710 John C Dvorak: and why she says well, there's other things you 2440 02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:53,190 could do. 2441 02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:56,160 Adam Curry: Well, here's the here's the one thing, and I 2442 02:25:56,160 --> 02:26:00,030 don't know how old you are, Brian, but my good friend Mike. 2443 02:26:00,330 --> 02:26:02,940 He's the former cop from Kerrville with anger management 2444 02:26:02,940 --> 02:26:08,190 issues. And so He's really He's remarried and you know, he's now 2445 02:26:08,190 --> 02:26:14,190 50 is in his 50s and is significantly younger hot wife 2446 02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:17,820 wants to have a baby you know, so now he's got to reverse this. 2447 02:26:18,420 --> 02:26:22,230 It which rarely works well you know, he doesn't he doesn't even 2448 02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:27,240 like the whole idea. But you know, she loves her so he's 2449 02:26:27,270 --> 02:26:32,130 probably gonna have to go for it so and that's a good it's a pain 2450 02:26:32,130 --> 02:26:35,610 in the ass. I mean, well, not really pale somewhere else where 2451 02:26:36,090 --> 02:26:38,820 so we can't we Other than that, 2452 02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:40,620 John C Dvorak: I think is symbolic. I think you're getting 2453 02:26:40,620 --> 02:26:44,100 you're just being Kim I think symbolic castration that's my 2454 02:26:44,100 --> 02:26:44,610 opinion. 2455 02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:49,230 Adam Curry: And say hi to your wife. I'm sure she loves 2456 02:26:49,230 --> 02:26:50,160 listening to the show and 2457 02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:52,650 John C Dvorak: I'm sure all of vasectomy victims out there that 2458 02:26:52,650 --> 02:26:55,350 listen to this show they just right at the moment there's 2459 02:26:55,380 --> 02:26:57,870 those goes the donations for the next show. 2460 02:26:57,900 --> 02:27:04,830 Adam Curry: vasectomy victims is this should be a group that that 2461 02:27:04,860 --> 02:27:13,200 vasectomy victims anonymous vva Jelena Okay, thank you very much 2462 02:27:13,200 --> 02:27:19,530 Brian. I'll do it in the in the indie no agenda meetup 2463 02:27:19,530 --> 02:27:23,850 Greenwood, Indiana 226 switcharoo donation for Julie 2464 02:27:23,850 --> 02:27:25,230 SRECS what what you 2465 02:27:25,230 --> 02:27:27,240 John C Dvorak: want them to do the raffle? Yeah, and I think 2466 02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:27,660 they had 2467 02:27:27,660 --> 02:27:31,050 Adam Curry: they sent a I think there's a meet up report. That's 2468 02:27:31,050 --> 02:27:34,470 right. She won the raffle. And she's also not only She's a 2469 02:27:34,470 --> 02:27:37,170 longtime listener, but now first time donors she needs to do 2470 02:27:37,170 --> 02:27:37,440 she's 2471 02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:43,260 Unknown: been de deuced cool. 2472 02:27:46,140 --> 02:27:49,380 Adam Curry: Add the indie thing there too. So we have 2473 02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:52,590 John C Dvorak: a darker Newcomb is up. And he's in Houston, 2474 02:27:52,590 --> 02:27:55,920 Texas, two to three. And he says I needed to do shoot. 2475 02:27:57,600 --> 02:27:59,430 Unknown: You've been D deuced. 2476 02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:02,880 John C Dvorak: Please allow me to shill for one of my favorite 2477 02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:06,480 podcasts blood satellite excellent show just wanted to 2478 02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:10,620 give them a boost and thank you guys as well. For all the great 2479 02:28:10,620 --> 02:28:18,480 content bring back Zippy karma Yeah, karma Bitcoin trucker horn 2480 02:28:18,660 --> 02:28:21,420 somebody asked me either the no agenda thing or you know what do 2481 02:28:21,420 --> 02:28:25,320 you what do we have a donation level so we can have the note to 2482 02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:29,280 complete note read in zip his voice Yeah, that's 2483 02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:32,010 Adam Curry: a great idea. I could pull in big bucks from the 2484 02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:32,760 shop. 2485 02:28:33,300 --> 02:28:35,880 John C Dvorak: Well I was so I first came up with a bill any 2486 02:28:35,880 --> 02:28:38,490 you know exactly you could probably done I said no, no, no, 2487 02:28:38,490 --> 02:28:43,650 no, no. I immediately thought executive producer only Yeah, 2488 02:28:43,650 --> 02:28:49,530 then I said well, I didn't put this on myself. How about 500 2489 02:28:49,530 --> 02:28:49,980 bucks 2490 02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:55,380 Adam Curry: Shut up he's getting all jacked up 2491 02:28:57,540 --> 02:29:01,110 John C Dvorak: I'm worth a lot I'm not just some cheap or Yeah, 2492 02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:02,100 okay. All right. 2493 02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,370 Adam Curry: Hold on I need to do the jingles here for the 2494 02:29:05,400 --> 02:29:09,090 John C Dvorak: was yeah karma Bitcoin trucker horn was going 2495 02:29:09,090 --> 02:29:09,990 to do it in the 2496 02:29:10,020 --> 02:29:12,780 Adam Curry: in the end reverse reverse order. 2497 02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:13,800 Unknown: That's ended 2498 02:29:13,830 --> 02:29:16,230 Adam Curry: all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna 2499 02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:16,980 need a Bitcoin 2500 02:29:21,570 --> 02:29:26,070 Unknown: you've got Harma 2501 02:29:26,910 --> 02:29:30,600 Adam Curry: Thank you. Jeffrey Williams Broomfield, Colorado 2502 02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:33,600 rubber ducks. tu tu tu tu tu tu i took the slow boat from grime 2503 02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:38,070 America to no agenda nation but what a fantastic trip. Please 2504 02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:39,870 extract me from the douche canoe. 2505 02:29:42,270 --> 02:29:43,440 Unknown: De deuced. 2506 02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:53,460 John C Dvorak: Like douche Greg gana is back from ever. Ever 2507 02:29:53,460 --> 02:29:58,920 robic in Parker, Colorado. And she says it is a switcheroo 2508 02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:03,900 donation from a human Resource Alice so we have a human 2509 02:30:03,900 --> 02:30:08,550 resource getting this donation in February 19 was her birthday 2510 02:30:08,550 --> 02:30:11,610 and I would like to beg you all if you could maybe sing her a 2511 02:30:11,610 --> 02:30:16,620 happy birthday song to Alice you can sing 2512 02:30:19,170 --> 02:30:24,420 Adam Curry: dee doo deuced I'm happy birthday to you Happy 2513 02:30:24,420 --> 02:30:28,980 birthday to you Happy birthday dear Alice Happy birthday to 2514 02:30:28,980 --> 02:30:29,370 you. 2515 02:30:29,880 --> 02:30:32,700 John C Dvorak: Thank you JP you got the exclusive Zippy song 2516 02:30:32,700 --> 02:30:36,480 let's return and by the way, kept it in tune a much better 2517 02:30:36,480 --> 02:30:40,560 than Adams everyday. She turned five years old. If not please 2518 02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:43,470 read this Happy Birthday Alice mommy and Billy love you very 2519 02:30:43,470 --> 02:30:51,360 much. And please d do her and she loves the jiggler you've 2520 02:30:51,360 --> 02:30:55,500 been de Deus. Could you play that we played? She goes around 2521 02:30:55,500 --> 02:30:58,800 saying that everywhere. Even if she goes around saying it 2522 02:30:58,830 --> 02:31:04,980 everywhere. Even in pre K. You'll ban de douche. And I'm 2523 02:31:04,980 --> 02:31:09,090 pretty sure her teachers have no clue what she's saying and why 2524 02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:10,440 hahaha 2525 02:31:10,500 --> 02:31:13,410 Adam Curry: I would just say D juiced make sure that if there's 2526 02:31:13,410 --> 02:31:17,910 any question of Gee juicy juice Yeah, in fact, Simon Doyle is 2527 02:31:17,910 --> 02:31:21,510 from Orefield pa $200 Associate Executive Producer titled love 2528 02:31:21,510 --> 02:31:24,600 the show. Thanks for all you do. This is my first time donation. 2529 02:31:24,690 --> 02:31:30,780 So I must request a D juicing. God blessed by Hashem you got 2530 02:31:30,780 --> 02:31:32,970 it? Oh my gosh, can you 2531 02:31:35,460 --> 02:31:37,050 Unknown: do deuced kind of. 2532 02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:41,700 John C Dvorak: And finally, the last one or this is Scott fuller 2533 02:31:41,700 --> 02:31:45,390 incoming Georgia for 200 and John Celie and dodge North 2534 02:31:45,390 --> 02:31:48,900 Dakota, both of them with no notes. So give them a combined 2535 02:31:50,340 --> 02:31:50,940 double 2536 02:31:51,360 --> 02:31:59,820 Adam Curry: double pharma, you've got pharma, and those are 2537 02:31:59,820 --> 02:32:03,000 the executive and Associate Executive producers for episode 2538 02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:08,160 1532. This means that you get that forever title executive 2539 02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:10,890 producer of this no agenda episode or Associate Executive 2540 02:32:10,890 --> 02:32:14,400 Producer. You can use those wherever credits or record white 2541 02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:17,010 and wherever you want. Of course, credit credits will be 2542 02:32:17,010 --> 02:32:20,220 recognized. You could put them on your IMDB you can put them in 2543 02:32:20,220 --> 02:32:22,710 your LinkedIn, put them on your resume, if anyone ever questions 2544 02:32:22,710 --> 02:32:26,280 that we will be happy to vouch for you. And John's gonna take 2545 02:32:26,280 --> 02:32:29,640 us through to the 50s and we'll wrap it up with our birthdays 2546 02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:32,040 and meetups and our nice things and gaming's 2547 02:32:32,370 --> 02:32:36,720 John C Dvorak: Shawn Oh, enterprising in Philadelphia 135 2548 02:32:36,720 --> 02:32:43,740 And he's got some some D douchey things needed with the Nate and 2549 02:32:43,740 --> 02:32:45,870 other 76 club members. 2550 02:32:47,610 --> 02:32:49,470 Unknown: You've been D deuced. 2551 02:32:50,220 --> 02:32:55,800 John C Dvorak: Jason Jason Jason bibble Bible, BYOB L E. B back 2552 02:32:55,800 --> 02:33:01,650 BYBL. In Austin, Texas. One 220 12 D. Marcus in Winnipeg, 2553 02:33:02,160 --> 02:33:11,730 Canada want to live in 33. Shane, we're wearing God wearing 2554 02:33:11,730 --> 02:33:15,630 god I'm guessing in Byron Center, Michigan, 100 Joseph 2555 02:33:15,690 --> 02:33:22,890 armory, or Amory in Piscataway, New Jersey 100 in field 100 2556 02:33:22,980 --> 02:33:30,030 Tommy B in Hillsborough, New Jersey. 100. He needs a D 2557 02:33:30,030 --> 02:33:30,600 douching. 2558 02:33:32,880 --> 02:33:34,380 Unknown: Band D deuced. 2559 02:33:34,740 --> 02:33:38,640 John C Dvorak: Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight in Covington, 2560 02:33:38,700 --> 02:33:46,740 Louisiana, 888 ser la de 808 Bremerton, Washington and the 2561 02:33:46,740 --> 02:33:51,060 newsletter guide me says Okay, Sir Kevin McLaughlin and Locust 2562 02:33:51,060 --> 02:33:56,190 North Carolina is there for another in a row of 808 Boob 2563 02:33:56,190 --> 02:34:00,810 donations. Brand Coffman in Scottsdale, Arizona. 7575. 2564 02:34:00,810 --> 02:34:08,580 Jonathan color Keller's Nick in Washington DC 75 in D if that's 2565 02:34:08,580 --> 02:34:15,390 your name are in our content LLC in Trumbull Connecticut. He's 2566 02:34:15,390 --> 02:34:21,840 Yes, we did. Okay, sir. slurred abart fast in hope Rhode Island 2567 02:34:23,940 --> 02:34:30,870 to the 678 Matthew Lane Hart in Buford, Georgia, and he's got a 2568 02:34:30,870 --> 02:34:35,610 birthday and he's chemo set to 110 Sir Jules reed in Honolulu, 2569 02:34:35,610 --> 02:34:41,970 Hawaii. 5155 10. Sir Glenn in Raleigh, North Carolina. 5510. 2570 02:34:42,600 --> 02:34:48,120 Serene, nice Marti. Sure even as he's always very always, always 2571 02:34:48,120 --> 02:34:53,040 active. He's always in there. No agenda, social. Culpeper, 2572 02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:58,980 Virginia. 5271. Brian Richardson in Aurora, Illinois has a long 2573 02:34:58,980 --> 02:35:01,350 note because he's becoming nighted And I think it should be 2574 02:35:01,350 --> 02:35:04,230 I guess we can read like to read parts of these notes. Yes. 2575 02:35:04,770 --> 02:35:07,200 Adam Curry: Yes, indeed. He says I found the show by listening to 2576 02:35:07,200 --> 02:35:11,310 Scott Horton, which is no small podcast. Scott Scott Horton 2577 02:35:11,310 --> 02:35:14,610 donation, found that on the stream back in 2011. I do 2578 02:35:14,610 --> 02:35:17,640 believe your show was playing instead of his work one day and 2579 02:35:17,640 --> 02:35:21,180 the rest is history. No agenda has read pilled me no sorry, 2580 02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:24,600 without the intention, which is depressing most times, but has 2581 02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:27,540 done for me what I can put into words right now. You definitely 2582 02:35:27,540 --> 02:35:32,700 helped me laugh about it all. And it is a quality product. I 2583 02:35:32,700 --> 02:35:36,120 met Adam and the keeper in Des Moines and was at the keep up in 2584 02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:39,330 Chicago. I would love to meet John some day. I was listening 2585 02:35:39,330 --> 02:35:42,300 to Korean zookeeper number 32 incredibly funny, by the way, 2586 02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:44,970 and I'd mentioned how close I was to knighthood at the dinner 2587 02:35:44,970 --> 02:35:47,280 but I didn't have my night name figured out thanks to the 2588 02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:50,220 keeper. Sir Brian with an eye and the rest of the fantastic 2589 02:35:50,220 --> 02:35:53,550 people that were there. I decided on Sir Brian with a why 2590 02:35:53,910 --> 02:35:57,780 the rest of the fantastic people that were there. Oh, the copious 2591 02:35:57,780 --> 02:36:00,570 party favors the roundtable already great. I don't need to 2592 02:36:00,570 --> 02:36:03,870 burden the staff. I hope to maybe come down to the national 2593 02:36:03,870 --> 02:36:07,650 meet up April 17. When and whenever the Indy one will be. 2594 02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:10,560 It'll be sometime our Chicago group is going to find our way 2595 02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:13,740 there soon regardless to look out and they do it on a weekend. 2596 02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:18,120 All right, thank you very much. And you're on deck for for your 2597 02:36:18,120 --> 02:36:21,330 knighting and thanks for showing up at the meet up and to keep 2598 02:36:21,330 --> 02:36:25,350 up. That's great. I'll go straight through forest Martin 2599 02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:34,230 came in with 5005 and we have another royalty here with 5002 m 2600 02:36:34,230 --> 02:36:37,350 of the midvalley and with this humble donation I push past the 2601 02:36:37,350 --> 02:36:41,250 threshold of knighthood. I request the title sir M Madson 2602 02:36:41,250 --> 02:36:44,790 of the Mid Valley. I also humbly request dad jokes and double 2603 02:36:44,790 --> 02:36:47,790 espresso at the roundtable. Lastly, if I could get a plug 2604 02:36:47,790 --> 02:36:51,360 for my ongoing project or labor of love slash exit strategy, 2605 02:36:51,660 --> 02:36:57,210 anti computer.org Ah, yes, I know this product. It's the only 2606 02:36:57,210 --> 02:36:59,850 site on the internet built without the aid of computers 2607 02:36:59,850 --> 02:37:03,240 anti computer.org. It's an online periodical that uses 2608 02:37:03,240 --> 02:37:06,870 humor and satire to lampoon modern life and technology with 2609 02:37:06,870 --> 02:37:10,230 hidden and a references. The latest issue tackles work from 2610 02:37:10,230 --> 02:37:13,320 home the depth of expertise how to watch Netflix, and when the 2611 02:37:13,320 --> 02:37:16,830 grid goes down, and an interview with the singularity. And at the 2612 02:37:16,830 --> 02:37:20,130 moment I'm doing all the writing editing artwork and web design 2613 02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:24,270 say for one article, the Jhansi Dvorak graciously allowed to be 2614 02:37:24,270 --> 02:37:27,060 reposted. That was the one we read at the top of the show. 2615 02:37:28,260 --> 02:37:31,500 Check it out visit the anti computer.org store buy a shower 2616 02:37:31,500 --> 02:37:37,560 curtain with Professor Ted's face by a shower curtain with 2617 02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:41,820 Professor Ted's face wearing the they live sunglasses just as he 2618 02:37:41,820 --> 02:37:46,260 would have wanted. I have to check this out if your curves 2619 02:37:46,260 --> 02:37:48,750 are and match some of the midvalley thank you sir on deck 2620 02:37:48,780 --> 02:37:50,730 on the podium in moments as well. 2621 02:37:51,210 --> 02:37:53,370 John C Dvorak: The following people are $50 donors I'm just 2622 02:37:53,370 --> 02:37:55,560 going to read the names and locations starting with Michael 2623 02:37:55,560 --> 02:37:59,790 Romano in Sebastopol. David Perdue in Snow Hill, North 2624 02:37:59,790 --> 02:38:05,400 Carolina and Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California Bart Baek 2625 02:38:05,430 --> 02:38:12,540 Valder in Veghel, Netherlands, and Nora de Brabant, Daniel 2626 02:38:12,540 --> 02:38:18,120 Kelly and Falls Church, Virginia. BRAC saw brands LLC, 2627 02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:24,300 in Portland, Oregon, Donald luck in Pottsville, Pennsylvania, 2628 02:38:24,330 --> 02:38:29,130 Daniel laboy in Bath Michigan. Nessa Sir and sir Patrick may 2629 02:38:29,130 --> 02:38:34,590 calm in New York City, Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida, 2630 02:38:34,980 --> 02:38:38,280 Robert case and mill spring, North Carolina Christy Jones and 2631 02:38:38,310 --> 02:38:44,880 demorest ga are Demarest Robert Hannah and Poway, California. 2632 02:38:46,290 --> 02:38:50,220 Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey, John Lorenson, 2633 02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:58,950 pellets, Texas. Kate Haskell and San Rafael, California. Sam 2634 02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:09,420 long story, Sam Williams and bow Creek. Yes. Battle Creek, 2635 02:39:09,780 --> 02:39:10,560 Michigan he's 2636 02:39:10,560 --> 02:39:12,360 Adam Curry: looking for work he's newly divorced and looking 2637 02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:13,770 for work. All right, yeah. 2638 02:39:14,190 --> 02:39:17,610 John C Dvorak: No Sam, Julian Robinson Aptos Cal another 2639 02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:22,080 Aptos. California to meet up there Allen being certain Barron 2640 02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:26,970 Allen being in Beaverton Oregon. Michael stadium. Parts Unknown 2641 02:39:26,970 --> 02:39:30,510 answer hold my beer is still there in Austin, Texas. Want to 2642 02:39:30,510 --> 02:39:33,180 thank these people for all these people for making everything 2643 02:39:33,180 --> 02:39:40,800 work here and the no agenda show? 1523 3215 32 2644 02:39:40,890 --> 02:39:45,840 Adam Curry: and I want to say hi to Sir Julian. He drove out from 2645 02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:51,780 Bastrop to have lunch with me on was it Tuesday, here in 2646 02:39:51,780 --> 02:39:54,750 Fredericksburg. You remember him from the Bastrop meetup that he 2647 02:39:54,750 --> 02:39:59,010 and his his Dame put in a huge donation at the time. And he 2648 02:39:59,010 --> 02:40:03,300 said you know Do I really love the donation segments? Do people 2649 02:40:03,300 --> 02:40:06,240 understand how much content there really is in those 2650 02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:09,510 donation segments? I don't know. I don't know. They do seem to 2651 02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:12,660 come back after the segment. But yeah, there is a drop off about 2652 02:40:12,660 --> 02:40:16,770 7%. I agree. I think some of our best work is in these segments. 2653 02:40:18,630 --> 02:40:19,170 Thank you. 2654 02:40:19,289 --> 02:40:21,599 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna thank Deborah for the card is nice. 2655 02:40:21,629 --> 02:40:22,109 Thank you. 2656 02:40:22,140 --> 02:40:25,470 Adam Curry: Thank you to all of our execs, associate execs, they 2657 02:40:25,470 --> 02:40:27,600 have the Forever titles of course, thank you everyone all 2658 02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:31,320 the way up to $50 under that, we do not mention for reasons of 2659 02:40:31,320 --> 02:40:36,060 anonymity we try and keep it that way. But we do appreciate 2660 02:40:36,060 --> 02:40:38,400 everyone who was on those sustaining donations. You can 2661 02:40:38,400 --> 02:40:40,320 find out more about them at our website 2662 02:40:40,350 --> 02:40:43,380 Unknown: vora.org/and 2663 02:40:43,440 --> 02:40:45,720 Adam Curry: Emma's give a little service good karma for those who 2664 02:40:45,720 --> 02:40:52,800 need it and thank all of you for supporting the no agenda Show 2665 02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:59,130 episode 1532 formula is this. We go out we hit people in the 2666 02:40:59,130 --> 02:40:59,430 mouth 2667 02:41:19,890 --> 02:41:23,910 today, we're gonna look at Robin wishes her daughter Alice Happy 2668 02:41:23,910 --> 02:41:27,720 Birthday turned five on February 19. And Zippy did all of that 2669 02:41:27,720 --> 02:41:30,810 work for so good. Dame Sam Cat of southern Knight county 2670 02:41:30,810 --> 02:41:35,490 celebrating today the 23rd Sir Lena wishes Josh Bradford they 2671 02:41:35,490 --> 02:41:39,840 have to birthday turns 39 tomorrow and damn DRAM mad Dave 2672 02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:42,600 The midvalley wishes are sweetums em on the MINVALUE 2673 02:41:42,600 --> 02:41:45,240 Happy Birthday and we say happy birthday from everybody here is 2674 02:41:45,240 --> 02:41:47,070 the best podcast in the universe 2675 02:41:56,250 --> 02:42:00,000 don't want to be induced we have one title change you heard it 2676 02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:02,790 earlier Dame Lady Bird now becomes barren that just Lady 2677 02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:06,750 Bird eagle of Toledo Bend and we welcome her to this a higher 2678 02:42:06,750 --> 02:42:09,240 level on the peerage ladder and thank you very much for your 2679 02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:12,210 extra support. We really do appreciate it we got two knights 2680 02:42:12,210 --> 02:42:16,950 on deck John out out. I cut myself to need your blade you go 2681 02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:20,190 on let me just put this bandaid on. Thank you. Two nights on 2682 02:42:20,190 --> 02:42:24,480 deck. There we go. Brian Richardson step up here on the 2683 02:42:24,480 --> 02:42:27,630 podium and am of the Mid Valley both views supported the no 2684 02:42:27,630 --> 02:42:30,450 agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more and I'm therefore 2685 02:42:30,450 --> 02:42:35,070 very proud to pronounce the Kate the as Sir Brian with a why and 2686 02:42:35,070 --> 02:42:39,180 sir M match son of the Mid Valley for you gentlemen. By 2687 02:42:39,180 --> 02:42:41,880 request we have of course hookers and blow rent boys and 2688 02:42:41,880 --> 02:42:45,720 Chardonnay. Also dad jokes with double espresso. We got to warm 2689 02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:48,570 beer and cold women fish pine fellatio we got some harlots and 2690 02:42:48,570 --> 02:42:51,360 how old all we got redheads and rise organic macaroni and 2691 02:42:51,360 --> 02:42:54,030 plasticiser beer and blunt Rubenesque woman and rose a 2692 02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:57,030 geisha in the socket Ibaka Mila bong hits and bourbon sparkling 2693 02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:59,700 cider escorts ginger ale and Jerboas breast milk compatible 2694 02:42:59,700 --> 02:43:03,810 but of course, where would we be without mutton and meat feast on 2695 02:43:03,810 --> 02:43:05,520 that with all the rest of the Knights and Dames here at the 2696 02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:07,350 round table and when you're ready go to no agenda 2697 02:43:07,350 --> 02:43:10,950 nation.com/rings Everybody can see the beautiful no agenda 2698 02:43:10,950 --> 02:43:13,650 knight or Dame rings on display there we need you to fill out 2699 02:43:13,650 --> 02:43:16,950 the form. Let us know what your ring size is and where to send 2700 02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:20,280 it. And of course with that comes wax official wax to seal 2701 02:43:20,280 --> 02:43:24,240 your correspondence with and a certificate of authenticity 2702 02:43:24,240 --> 02:43:27,180 signed by John and myself thank you again for supporting the no 2703 02:43:27,180 --> 02:43:28,020 agenda Show 2704 02:43:34,590 --> 02:43:37,830 All right, we got we got meetup reports here. We got meetup 2705 02:43:37,830 --> 02:43:42,960 reports written one from Sir from Roger roundy. From the 2706 02:43:43,260 --> 02:43:48,450 senile POTUS Washington DC 19th of February meet up. He didn't 2707 02:43:48,450 --> 02:43:50,850 send in a piece of audio and make me do the work in 2708 02:43:50,850 --> 02:43:56,190 attendance were Willow ah grim. Sir Penton pantile Jellinek Kurt 2709 02:43:56,190 --> 02:44:00,270 be the human action handyman, Renegade and a Polish dude named 2710 02:44:00,270 --> 02:44:04,110 Job Polish dude named jobs. We saw close up Ron Paul, Jimmy 2711 02:44:04,110 --> 02:44:07,620 Dore and Dennis Kucinich among many others also let celebrities 2712 02:44:08,040 --> 02:44:10,740 we met people all over the political spectrum, including 2713 02:44:10,740 --> 02:44:14,010 commies, lib tardes peaceniks, alt right, a deep sea diver and 2714 02:44:14,010 --> 02:44:16,950 Tulsi Gabbard, this would have been funny if you'd recorded 2715 02:44:16,950 --> 02:44:20,190 this actually. After four long freakin hours of speeches. It 2716 02:44:20,190 --> 02:44:25,380 was just me and job left. Job left for the final march to the 2717 02:44:25,380 --> 02:44:29,430 White House and after that, long people were cranky, megaphones, 2718 02:44:29,460 --> 02:44:32,970 arguments chubby anarchists T boned my senile POTUS sign. A 2719 02:44:32,970 --> 02:44:35,580 seven year old nearly took out job with his cane It was 2720 02:44:35,580 --> 02:44:40,260 awesome. Peace out. Sounds like a good time man. These no agenda 2721 02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:43,290 meetups you never know what's gonna happen. Let's go to fish 2722 02:44:43,290 --> 02:44:43,650 town. 2723 02:44:43,860 --> 02:44:46,620 Unknown: This is Sean here from local 76 and Philadelphia 2724 02:44:46,620 --> 02:44:49,560 Brewing Company. We got 10 people here on our second no our 2725 02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:53,880 third anniversary my second as a host, Craig Rob and Nate have 2726 02:44:53,880 --> 02:44:59,400 all contributed a total of $135 as their membership douche. 2727 02:44:59,460 --> 02:45:02,610 Please do douche them guys. And don't give us that Chinese 2728 02:45:02,610 --> 02:45:03,120 leadership 2729 02:45:03,210 --> 02:45:04,560 as a warning. This 2730 02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:07,410 is Nate from pizza town. Love you guys. Thank you for your 2731 02:45:07,410 --> 02:45:07,920 courage. 2732 02:45:08,010 --> 02:45:13,200 It's Rob from Brooklyn here the 76 is on your Meetup. And I do 2733 02:45:13,200 --> 02:45:13,830 believe 2734 02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:18,000 this is Lou in the morning all the douchebags out there donate 2735 02:45:18,120 --> 02:45:19,470 donate. 2736 02:45:19,500 --> 02:45:21,780 Hey it's suburban Shan 2737 02:45:21,900 --> 02:45:25,710 This is in future Lady of the Philadelphia Badlands I just 2738 02:45:25,710 --> 02:45:27,420 want to hit say hi to Zippy 2739 02:45:27,450 --> 02:45:30,930 This is Jason having a few beers but with some sophisticated 2740 02:45:30,930 --> 02:45:31,380 people 2741 02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:35,670 so glad that when introduced me to this and summer and I surely 2742 02:45:35,670 --> 02:45:38,970 appreciate you guys and what I learned thank you this is Kylie 2743 02:45:40,950 --> 02:45:43,650 Adam Curry: Yeah, another big meter. Now people when you're 2744 02:45:43,650 --> 02:45:47,160 sending these file names, label them please I forgot now who 2745 02:45:47,160 --> 02:45:53,550 this is from but here we go. You do Yeah. Smokey. Okay, well, I'm 2746 02:45:53,550 --> 02:45:57,930 gonna have to edit that one. Sorry. This. I mean, if that's 2747 02:45:57,930 --> 02:46:00,750 not that's something I can play out of the box. I took a risk. 2748 02:46:00,750 --> 02:46:04,170 And the same with this one. This is from things that in DNA meet 2749 02:46:04,170 --> 02:46:06,420 up. It's a risk. Let's see what happened happens. 2750 02:46:06,750 --> 02:46:08,370 Unknown: This is Mark, this is Maria. 2751 02:46:09,090 --> 02:46:11,160 Adam Curry: These guys know what they're doing from our monthly 2752 02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:12,030 Indianapolis 2753 02:46:12,030 --> 02:46:14,160 Unknown: meetup. Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel. Thank you for 2754 02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:18,150 your courage and I do believe this books are facts. Hi, this 2755 02:46:18,150 --> 02:46:21,840 is Julie from fishers. So this is my first meetup. I won the 2756 02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:24,360 raffle and I'm no longer a douchebag 2757 02:46:24,900 --> 02:46:27,660 this is sort of over the mobile. This is a great meetup but until 2758 02:46:27,660 --> 02:46:30,540 the government's about it all of our party balloons are made in 2759 02:46:30,540 --> 02:46:36,330 China. Would you like to read in my beautiful blue? Hey, I 2760 02:46:36,330 --> 02:46:41,970 think I caught the talk this month. This is Emily goes boots 2761 02:46:42,030 --> 02:46:42,630 in the morning. 2762 02:46:42,660 --> 02:46:44,310 Hey Is Gary from Greenwood we 2763 02:46:44,310 --> 02:46:47,970 have a serious situation we need to get up to Lake Huron and I'm 2764 02:46:47,970 --> 02:46:50,700 getting his search and rescue party together to get our 2765 02:46:50,700 --> 02:46:54,750 400,000 plus dollars of taxpayer money back who's with me 2766 02:46:54,750 --> 02:46:55,530 Scarlet P from 2767 02:46:55,530 --> 02:47:00,600 Chicago basically tried versus survived father and David Dorita 2768 02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:04,230 del brewski hair drinking some beers in the morning to you John 2769 02:47:04,230 --> 02:47:07,410 and Adam. This is Nick mark is wearing a Hawaiian shirt used to 2770 02:47:07,410 --> 02:47:08,460 spook was Mike's 2771 02:47:08,460 --> 02:47:11,100 and Fort Wayne. We've come over to take over the intergroup but 2772 02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:13,350 we're not succeeding very well. In the morning. 2773 02:47:13,380 --> 02:47:16,320 This is Shannon from faraway and visiting in Annapolis. Everyone 2774 02:47:16,320 --> 02:47:19,380 here is 33% happier now that we've eaten our daily assessment 2775 02:47:19,380 --> 02:47:19,860 of kale 2776 02:47:19,950 --> 02:47:22,710 in the morning. This is Dame Trinity having a great time in 2777 02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:24,150 India. Thank you for your courage 2778 02:47:24,210 --> 02:47:27,330 in the Morning John and Adam and serve PBR street gang here in 2779 02:47:27,330 --> 02:47:29,820 Indianapolis having a great time thinking to you, Jeremy from 2780 02:47:29,820 --> 02:47:32,610 Nappanee, Indiana in the morning, not from Indianapolis 2781 02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:35,580 is a big balloon at the table, but no f 22 2782 02:47:35,640 --> 02:47:38,670 and from Nappanee and I'm not taking that balloon home 2783 02:47:40,560 --> 02:47:44,040 Adam Curry: man that is such a big group the indie meetup I 2784 02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:46,890 mean that thing's growing and then the Chicago guys and gals 2785 02:47:46,890 --> 02:47:49,080 are going to come down and join them that's going to be off the 2786 02:47:49,080 --> 02:47:53,010 hook we that's what we need to do a tri state meet up. I'm 2787 02:47:53,010 --> 02:47:54,180 going to coordinate this with the keep 2788 02:47:54,180 --> 02:47:56,190 John C Dvorak: a Missouri putting Michigan one in that's 2789 02:47:56,190 --> 02:47:56,880 what I'm saying. We 2790 02:47:56,880 --> 02:47:59,400 Adam Curry: throw them all together. The imagine that meet 2791 02:47:59,400 --> 02:48:03,840 up. Alright first one, the 17th of April that's that's a natural 2792 02:48:03,840 --> 02:48:05,580 one we're going to do. All right. Here's what's coming up 2793 02:48:05,580 --> 02:48:08,760 tomorrow. We've got the I must be high number eight seven 2794 02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:11,610 o'clock McSorley's wonderful saloon and Grill in Toronto. 2795 02:48:11,940 --> 02:48:17,910 We've got the international slaves do Naza I do Nanga Miami 2796 02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:21,420 time seven o'clock. rakija lounge Miami Beach, Florida. 2797 02:48:21,720 --> 02:48:27,090 Southside okie city Hui Hui meet up one o'clock garage more off i 2798 02:48:28,140 --> 02:48:33,840 135 That's more Oklahoma. This is Saturday now bruised by the 2799 02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:36,870 bay one o'clock at the guild Warren beer hall and brewery in 2800 02:48:36,870 --> 02:48:41,460 Warren Rhode Island QC and a two o'clock in armored gardens 2801 02:48:41,460 --> 02:48:45,240 Davenport, Iowa and also on Saturday monthly deprogramming 2802 02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:48,180 meet up two o'clock at propaganda place Punta Gorda, 2803 02:48:48,180 --> 02:48:54,180 Florida and the double back BBQ a double birthday barbecue 333 2804 02:48:54,450 --> 02:48:58,110 at South Winchester BBQ, San Jose, California and on Sunday, 2805 02:48:58,110 --> 02:49:01,380 the next show day the linkage of amygdala shrinkage. There'll be 2806 02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:04,590 noon Eastern at Babson beer company in Derby, Connecticut 2807 02:49:04,590 --> 02:49:07,530 these are the no agenda meetups, no agenda meetups are important. 2808 02:49:07,740 --> 02:49:10,980 They're good for you. They give you a sense of community because 2809 02:49:11,010 --> 02:49:13,560 is your community everyone's awkward we don't look like to 2810 02:49:13,560 --> 02:49:17,160 say we don't like like belong together. But we love balloons 2811 02:49:17,370 --> 02:49:21,480 and you will love being at a no agenda meetup go try it out no 2812 02:49:21,480 --> 02:49:25,290 agenda meetups.com They are entirely producer organized. No 2813 02:49:25,290 --> 02:49:28,950 Fee it's free to get in free to have fun and remember connection 2814 02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:31,290 is protection no agenda meetups.com 2815 02:49:32,070 --> 02:49:39,510 Unknown: Sometimes you want to go hang out with Dyson days. You 2816 02:49:40,590 --> 02:49:48,750 won't be triggered you to be where everybody feels the same. 2817 02:49:50,040 --> 02:49:50,580 Is like 2818 02:49:53,820 --> 02:49:58,710 Adam Curry: we on time bow. Done a lot today. A lot of talking 2819 02:49:59,820 --> 02:50:03,240 I'm slipping a little bit but we're trying to work on ready 2820 02:50:03,240 --> 02:50:04,530 John C Dvorak: for us. I suppose. 2821 02:50:05,040 --> 02:50:07,170 Adam Curry: Me got only two. 2822 02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:09,510 John C Dvorak: I don't think I'm very I got three pay your two 2823 02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:11,220 ready for the big one. 2824 02:50:13,590 --> 02:50:15,420 Unknown: Thank you very much for your courage. 2825 02:50:16,200 --> 02:50:20,490 Adam Curry: Shit sound nothing good. Sorry. That's all I got 2826 02:50:20,490 --> 02:50:23,550 and I'm unprepared woefully unprepared for this. I'm sorry. 2827 02:50:24,090 --> 02:50:25,770 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, let's play minus if there's anything 2828 02:50:25,770 --> 02:50:29,850 here that's worth a crap. Okay, start with Saiga and so the saga 2829 02:50:29,850 --> 02:50:30,540 continues. 2830 02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:34,710 Adam Curry: Better than anything I got. Yeah. What's your next 2831 02:50:34,710 --> 02:50:34,920 one? 2832 02:50:35,369 --> 02:50:37,049 John C Dvorak: Sexism. Oh, 2833 02:50:37,290 --> 02:50:39,750 Unknown: this is blatant sexism. 2834 02:50:41,640 --> 02:50:45,300 Adam Curry: That fits a little more with our show. And the 2835 02:50:45,300 --> 02:50:46,050 third one, 2836 02:50:46,440 --> 02:50:48,360 John C Dvorak: the rain, the rain, 2837 02:50:48,390 --> 02:50:51,300 Adam Curry: Ginny is coming back. No, no, no, this is 2838 02:50:51,300 --> 02:50:55,350 Unknown: This is blatant sexism. That's us. I mean, that's fine. 2839 02:50:55,650 --> 02:50:56,430 John C Dvorak: I'll let it go. 2840 02:50:56,460 --> 02:50:58,230 Adam Curry: I mean, totally good with it. I mean, that whole 2841 02:50:58,260 --> 02:51:00,900 vasectomy segment. That was 2842 02:51:00,900 --> 02:51:03,120 John C Dvorak: sec. Well, I got a clip to follow on the 2843 02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:05,730 vasectomy segment. I thought people should at least hear 2844 02:51:05,730 --> 02:51:09,540 this. Okay. What do you guys are talking about it here too. Oh, 2845 02:51:09,810 --> 02:51:15,390 this is the clip China, S Korea, Japan, birth rates 2846 02:51:15,450 --> 02:51:19,260 Unknown: China, Japan and now South Korea. All these nations 2847 02:51:19,260 --> 02:51:23,130 are setting new records for low fertility. The demographic issue 2848 02:51:23,130 --> 02:51:26,040 has become a growing policy concern throughout much of East 2849 02:51:26,040 --> 02:51:30,000 Asia, where shrinking and aging populations are fueling labor 2850 02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:33,840 shortages. However, fewer than 250,000 babies were born in 2851 02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:38,610 South Korea in 2022. Officials say on average, a woman now 2852 02:51:38,610 --> 02:51:42,960 gives birth to about 0.78 children in her lifetime. That's 2853 02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:47,130 the lowest fertility rate in the OECD. Policymakers point to a 2854 02:51:47,130 --> 02:51:50,670 shift in the role of women in South Korean society. Many are 2855 02:51:50,670 --> 02:51:54,120 waiting both to get married and to have children. The government 2856 02:51:54,120 --> 02:51:56,970 is concerned and it's creating new incentives for couples to 2857 02:51:56,970 --> 02:52:00,600 expand their families, including help to get women back to work 2858 02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:04,020 post birth and more affordable housing. Well, South Korea is 2859 02:52:04,020 --> 02:52:06,630 not alone in seeing a low birth rate as a threat to its 2860 02:52:06,630 --> 02:52:10,320 survival. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo mele says the 2861 02:52:10,320 --> 02:52:13,650 issue has put Japan social support system on the verge of 2862 02:52:13,650 --> 02:52:17,400 collapse. And Chinese experts worry it will put the brakes on 2863 02:52:17,400 --> 02:52:19,320 Beijing's economic growth. 2864 02:52:20,160 --> 02:52:22,260 Adam Curry: Well, this takes me right back to the former New 2865 02:52:22,260 --> 02:52:26,910 York banker what he said. He said we we win, we win over 2866 02:52:26,910 --> 02:52:30,510 everybody. As long as we have enough more more people in 2867 02:52:30,510 --> 02:52:35,610 America. And the way we do that is just open the borders. That's 2868 02:52:35,610 --> 02:52:37,830 how you win that did that apparently is all that counts. 2869 02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:42,480 China, Japan, South Korea, they can't keep up. They have no 2870 02:52:42,480 --> 02:52:43,920 borders to let people into. 2871 02:52:45,900 --> 02:52:47,520 John C Dvorak: Brother is that no. 2872 02:52:49,500 --> 02:52:51,120 Adam Curry: I I'm reminded 2873 02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:52,500 John C Dvorak: you know that one of the things that was in that 2874 02:52:52,500 --> 02:52:56,430 little laundry list, which would maybe help was the get women 2875 02:52:56,430 --> 02:52:59,670 back to work. And I think maybe there's just the opposite. 2876 02:53:00,420 --> 02:53:05,280 Because if you look at the elites, the women delimiter they 2877 02:53:05,280 --> 02:53:08,490 do a lot but they don't have jobs. I could look at it. You 2878 02:53:08,490 --> 02:53:12,090 know, what was it unIess Kennedy by Robert Kennedy's wife had 2879 02:53:12,090 --> 02:53:15,240 like eight kids I mean, kids Robert Kennedy half Yeah, 2880 02:53:15,240 --> 02:53:19,830 something like that. The elites are reproducing like that. And 2881 02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:24,810 they don't make their mean she does work the work is raising 2882 02:53:24,810 --> 02:53:29,670 the eight kids this but along with 30 works ism. Yeah, there 2883 02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:33,090 you go. I get my sexism look, David handle write down my main 2884 02:53:33,090 --> 02:53:33,480 business, 2885 02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:36,840 Adam Curry: you know, you know, see Mike. See, Mike sent me you 2886 02:53:36,840 --> 02:53:39,330 may have gotten to two we got his Christmas letter, and his 2887 02:53:39,330 --> 02:53:42,930 piggy had eight kids. That's a nine one isn't heaven, but eight 2888 02:53:42,930 --> 02:53:49,320 kids. Now like go see, Mike. I think that I agree. We should be 2889 02:53:49,320 --> 02:53:52,290 making our own kids. Loss of them. 2890 02:53:55,770 --> 02:53:58,680 John C Dvorak: Though, I think I do have some other stuff. If you 2891 02:53:58,680 --> 02:53:59,490 want to play a role. 2892 02:54:00,090 --> 02:54:02,370 Adam Curry: I have something very important to play. And it's 2893 02:54:02,400 --> 02:54:06,240 a warning. Warning. It's a warning. It's a warning. And as 2894 02:54:06,240 --> 02:54:11,790 a celebrity in years gone by you 2895 02:54:15,180 --> 02:54:17,430 John C Dvorak: the washed up podcast is a washed 2896 02:54:17,430 --> 02:54:23,430 Adam Curry: up VJ with Tourette Syndrome. Back in the day, you 2897 02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:26,340 know, you can ask for stuff reality shows all kinds of 2898 02:54:26,340 --> 02:54:29,700 stuff. You know, sometimes it's one of those shows where they, 2899 02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:33,660 you know, they'll ask everyone the same 50 Questions like and 2900 02:54:33,690 --> 02:54:37,590 they package it into a special, like Best Songs of the 80s You 2901 02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:40,020 know, and then you know, they'll have little blip blips of little 2902 02:54:40,020 --> 02:54:43,230 clips of people and other times a little more long form show and 2903 02:54:43,230 --> 02:54:47,040 I want to warn against participating in shows that 2904 02:54:47,040 --> 02:54:51,510 could surprise you, for instance, and I saw this happen 2905 02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:55,050 in the UK I think it started in the UK this show and now it's a 2906 02:54:55,050 --> 02:54:58,860 it probably is maybe a BBC show. That's why PBS has it now here 2907 02:54:59,520 --> 02:55:06,600 it's called Hold on a second, what is it called? It's called 2908 02:55:06,600 --> 02:55:11,370 Find your roots. And what they do is though, so you so you're a 2909 02:55:11,370 --> 02:55:15,630 celebrity. And you know, and then they're going to trace your 2910 02:55:15,630 --> 02:55:19,170 roots and it always winds up like this. Your ancestors were 2911 02:55:19,170 --> 02:55:22,590 slave owners. I mean, this has always happened. Yes, this is 2912 02:55:22,590 --> 02:55:23,040 true. 2913 02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:26,790 John C Dvorak: I watched this guy gates, his black guy doesn't 2914 02:55:26,790 --> 02:55:30,930 have PVA, Henry Gates, Jr. Gates. It's always everybody was 2915 02:55:30,960 --> 02:55:31,980 a slave owner, 2916 02:55:32,039 --> 02:55:34,889 Adam Curry: they will they flip the script, they flip the 2917 02:55:34,889 --> 02:55:39,899 script. And they and here's a snippet of PBS is finding your 2918 02:55:39,899 --> 02:55:45,059 roots. And they and they and they, the celebrity in this case 2919 02:55:45,059 --> 02:55:49,559 was Angela Davis. Angela Davis, who admitted Marxist, Angela 2920 02:55:49,559 --> 02:55:54,479 Davis, who teaches people about the slavery of our country and 2921 02:55:54,479 --> 02:55:58,319 how we are horrible people. And here's the payoff. 2922 02:55:58,439 --> 02:56:01,679 Unknown: Any idea what you're looking at? That is list of the 2923 02:56:01,679 --> 02:56:09,329 passengers on the Mayflower? No, I can't believe this did not 2924 02:56:09,329 --> 02:56:13,589 come here on the mate. Your ancestors came on the Mayflower. 2925 02:56:14,489 --> 02:56:19,469 descendant, one of the 101 people who sailed on the 2926 02:56:19,469 --> 02:56:20,069 Mayflower. 2927 02:56:24,030 --> 02:56:25,890 That's a little bit too much 2928 02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:30,750 to deal with right now. Did you ever in your wildest dreams 2929 02:56:30,960 --> 02:56:33,930 think that you may have descended from people who laid 2930 02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:41,490 never the foundation? Never this? Never. Never? Whoa, you 2931 02:56:41,490 --> 02:56:43,050 got butt slap? 2932 02:56:45,720 --> 02:56:49,320 Adam Curry: I mean, that is unbelievable. A that they do 2933 02:56:49,320 --> 02:56:55,050 that to her? But did they broadcast it? I mean, isn't that 2934 02:56:55,050 --> 02:57:00,030 just crazy? It is crazy. And what a what a? I mean, all the 2935 02:57:00,030 --> 02:57:03,600 things she said about slavery. And her ancestors came over on 2936 02:57:03,600 --> 02:57:07,860 the Mayflower and participated actively in slavery. Obviously, 2937 02:57:08,040 --> 02:57:10,890 oh, goodness, is let this be a warning to all of you 2938 02:57:10,890 --> 02:57:13,530 celebrities or influencers or whatever you're called out 2939 02:57:13,530 --> 02:57:20,820 there. influencers? Let me see if I had anything else. Oh, yes. 2940 02:57:20,850 --> 02:57:25,620 This is probably worth mentioning. Since I don't know, 2941 02:57:25,620 --> 02:57:31,440 it may, I think, when it comes to an example of the if there's 2942 02:57:31,440 --> 02:57:34,260 a country where everyone can point to and say, oh, you know, 2943 02:57:34,680 --> 02:57:36,480 they should have not they should have listened. This should have 2944 02:57:36,480 --> 02:57:40,500 stayed in the EU, you know? Yeah, that Brexit big mistake. 2945 02:57:40,500 --> 02:57:41,820 Now you're all going to die. 2946 02:57:42,030 --> 02:57:44,190 Unknown: Yes. One as an independent act of frontline 2947 02:57:44,190 --> 02:57:48,030 journalism, your cameraman here, Mike Simon's and myself went to 2948 02:57:48,210 --> 02:57:51,240 the test goes behind us. And yes, they have no tomatoes, and 2949 02:57:51,240 --> 02:57:54,180 they're blaming adverse weather. So what's it all about? Well, 2950 02:57:54,180 --> 02:57:57,690 primarily, just that a run of unusually cold weather in 2951 02:57:57,690 --> 02:58:00,720 southern Spain, and North Africa, Tunisia, right across to 2952 02:58:00,720 --> 02:58:04,440 Egypt, where at this time of the year, the UK can get up to 95% 2953 02:58:04,680 --> 02:58:08,280 of its requirements of certain lines of vegetable smarter virus 2954 02:58:08,280 --> 02:58:11,670 in North Africa, adding into that, second, the energy crisis 2955 02:58:11,700 --> 02:58:14,490 we do use grows in the Netherlands quite intensively 2956 02:58:14,490 --> 02:58:17,280 this time of year. They've decided it's too expensive 2957 02:58:17,280 --> 02:58:20,730 because of electricity prices. You don't just have to heat up 2958 02:58:20,730 --> 02:58:23,910 the greenhouses. Of course, you have light the short hours of 2959 02:58:23,910 --> 02:58:27,030 daylight as well. It's too much they're not doing it. Then look 2960 02:58:27,030 --> 02:58:29,910 at what the NFU was saying just that it's conference last few 2961 02:58:29,910 --> 02:58:33,360 days that the amount of vegetables that we're growing 2962 02:58:33,390 --> 02:58:36,960 under glass is at its lowest level, certainly in some lines. 2963 02:58:36,960 --> 02:58:41,010 Minette batters, the NFU leader said since 1985, when Records 2964 02:58:41,010 --> 02:58:43,680 began, yes, it will get better. There's a thing called Spring 2965 02:58:43,680 --> 02:58:47,190 coming on British growers will kick in. It is temporary, but 2966 02:58:47,190 --> 02:58:51,510 maybe for go a few cucumbers, tomatoes and some lettuces and 2967 02:58:51,510 --> 02:58:53,010 peppers for the time being. 2968 02:58:53,280 --> 02:58:55,170 Adam Curry: So basically, there's a shortage of fruit and 2969 02:58:55,170 --> 02:59:00,270 veg in the UK and people are kind of freaking out. There's no 2970 02:59:00,270 --> 02:59:00,930 vegetables 2971 02:59:00,930 --> 02:59:03,300 John C Dvorak: and the shortage was there and Brexit it out or 2972 02:59:03,300 --> 02:59:05,730 not. It's all gonna be the shortage. Of course not, 2973 02:59:05,760 --> 02:59:08,670 Adam Curry: of course, but that's just being used now. Oh, 2974 02:59:08,670 --> 02:59:09,840 you shouldn't have Brexit issue. 2975 02:59:10,020 --> 02:59:13,350 John C Dvorak: You know, we have a cold snap out here, which is 2976 02:59:13,350 --> 02:59:16,740 another, you know, where's the global warming? Yeah, but up in 2977 02:59:16,740 --> 02:59:20,280 Port Angeles, they've had something which is really cold. 2978 02:59:20,760 --> 02:59:24,480 There was a first and I never heard of this. And it's never 2979 02:59:24,480 --> 02:59:28,200 happened before we've had to place up there forever. Straight 2980 02:59:28,200 --> 02:59:33,030 effects, no straight effect snow, just like lake effect 2981 02:59:33,030 --> 02:59:36,570 snow, but it's from the Straits of Juan de Fuca, which is the 2982 02:59:36,570 --> 02:59:40,080 northern part of that area between Canada and the United 2983 02:59:40,080 --> 02:59:43,260 States between Port Angeles and Victoria, Canada. That's the 2984 02:59:43,260 --> 02:59:47,550 Straits of Juan de Fuca and as snow is being formed off the 2985 02:59:47,550 --> 02:59:51,090 lake just like off the streets just like lake effect snow, and 2986 02:59:51,090 --> 02:59:54,180 it produces this which I've experienced once I knew I was in 2987 02:59:54,180 --> 02:59:58,230 Cleveland by coincidence. And would they had lake effect snow 2988 02:59:58,650 --> 03:00:02,070 and they're producing Lake Texas no in Washington now. 2989 03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:09,060 Adam Curry: At least that's what they're calling it. Who knows? 2990 03:00:09,090 --> 03:00:16,320 Who knows? I just I just I gotta get this one out to have you 2991 03:00:16,320 --> 03:00:24,060 seen Laura Barron Lopez? No, she is the new hot shit reporter at 2992 03:00:24,060 --> 03:00:25,380 the PBS NewsHour 2993 03:00:28,230 --> 03:00:30,360 John C Dvorak: she's probably seen her then. 2994 03:00:30,449 --> 03:00:34,019 Adam Curry: Oh man she is she's the total perfect multi CultI 2995 03:00:34,019 --> 03:00:34,439 girl. 2996 03:00:35,189 --> 03:00:36,719 John C Dvorak: Yeah, the when you can identify the 2997 03:00:38,160 --> 03:00:39,420 Adam Curry: name gives it away 2998 03:00:39,450 --> 03:00:41,640 John C Dvorak: but that name does but you can run into you 2999 03:00:41,640 --> 03:00:45,060 know Soledad O'Brien, for example, is a good example of 3000 03:00:45,090 --> 03:00:46,050 what is she? 3001 03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:49,410 Adam Curry: Well, I think she's Mexican. A Mexican American 3002 03:00:49,410 --> 03:00:54,480 Laura Barron Lopez. She's young. She comes from political as she 3003 03:00:54,480 --> 03:00:59,250 really no she came out of school into politico now she is. I 3004 03:00:59,250 --> 03:01:04,170 think they they're calling her Judy's replacement. Which seems 3005 03:01:04,200 --> 03:01:04,590 a bit 3006 03:01:05,040 --> 03:01:07,620 John C Dvorak: girl that's probably since she's the one who 3007 03:01:07,620 --> 03:01:11,100 does this. She's been doing Judy's replacement job for quite 3008 03:01:11,100 --> 03:01:12,480 a while the same person 3009 03:01:12,480 --> 03:01:15,000 Adam Curry: for the curly long hair now this can't be her. 3010 03:01:15,030 --> 03:01:16,560 Maybe she's replacing someone. 3011 03:01:16,560 --> 03:01:19,680 John C Dvorak: I'm sure it's this. What's your name? Um, 3012 03:01:19,680 --> 03:01:22,260 Adam Curry: so she's the White House correspondent for PBS 3013 03:01:22,260 --> 03:01:23,340 NewsHour. Okay. 3014 03:01:23,610 --> 03:01:25,740 John C Dvorak: The White House Chris White. Spell it. 3015 03:01:26,580 --> 03:01:32,760 Adam Curry: Bought own ba R O N dash Lopez. Laura Barron Lopez. 3016 03:01:33,180 --> 03:01:34,620 And cute smile. 3017 03:01:35,070 --> 03:01:36,660 John C Dvorak: No, I've seen this girl. Yeah. 3018 03:01:37,110 --> 03:01:46,260 Adam Curry: So but she's also a a pundit for CNN. And so 3019 03:01:47,730 --> 03:01:49,830 Unknown: she's on a roll. Yeah. And 3020 03:01:49,830 --> 03:01:52,650 Adam Curry: you know, so here's what happened. It was a huge 3021 03:01:52,650 --> 03:01:56,820 upset in journalism land, because Kevin McCarthy has given 3022 03:01:56,820 --> 03:02:02,850 Tucker Carlson 40,000 hours of January 6 tapes. And this of 3023 03:02:02,850 --> 03:02:05,850 course, is an outrage. He didn't give it to the people. No, he 3024 03:02:05,850 --> 03:02:06,120 gave it 3025 03:02:06,120 --> 03:02:09,030 John C Dvorak: to Tucker Carlson another topic of outrage pod. 3026 03:02:09,540 --> 03:02:13,320 Exactly. So everybody's going on and on about who cares. Let's 3027 03:02:13,320 --> 03:02:14,400 see what they come up with 3028 03:02:14,430 --> 03:02:16,740 Unknown: Kevin McCarthy is giving Fox's Tucker Carlson 3029 03:02:16,740 --> 03:02:20,730 access to 10s of 1000s of hours of January 6 security footage 3030 03:02:20,820 --> 03:02:24,090 your tax dollars paid for most of the cameras that captured the 3031 03:02:24,090 --> 03:02:26,550 scene inside and around the Capitol that day. With speaker 3032 03:02:26,550 --> 03:02:30,810 McCarthy is granting access only to Carlson and to Fox Carlson is 3033 03:02:30,810 --> 03:02:33,810 a frequent McCarthy critic who says the speaker has no 3034 03:02:33,810 --> 03:02:37,530 ideological core. Carlson also repeatedly spreads conspiracies 3035 03:02:37,530 --> 03:02:40,770 about the attack suggesting it was orchestrated somehow by the 3036 03:02:40,770 --> 03:02:44,970 deep state, the FBI, not the pro Trump mob, as we all witnessed, 3037 03:02:45,330 --> 03:02:48,270 our reporters are back around the table. Why? 3038 03:02:49,080 --> 03:02:52,140 Well, I think we have to ask, you know, 3039 03:02:52,650 --> 03:02:53,400 Adam Curry: this is her. 3040 03:02:53,609 --> 03:02:55,349 Unknown: We have to look at Tucker Carlson and the fact that 3041 03:02:55,349 --> 03:02:58,829 Tucker Carlson is one of the leading propagandists on Fox and 3042 03:02:58,829 --> 03:03:03,659 that he has lied Oh, January, repeatedly has lied about the 3043 03:03:03,659 --> 03:03:08,639 2020 election and the fact that this comes on the heels of 3044 03:03:08,669 --> 03:03:11,939 documentation and evidence showing that Tucker Carlson knew 3045 03:03:11,939 --> 03:03:15,569 that those were lies about election fraud around the 2020 3046 03:03:15,569 --> 03:03:19,499 election, still decided to go on air and talk about it. And 3047 03:03:19,529 --> 03:03:22,259 McCarthy knows that and he's deciding to hand it over to 3048 03:03:22,259 --> 03:03:24,959 someone who is going to filter the message anyway. 3049 03:03:24,990 --> 03:03:28,080 So is it is it than simply raw politics. 3050 03:03:28,320 --> 03:03:30,270 Adam Curry: But wait, there's more people sitting around this 3051 03:03:30,270 --> 03:03:33,780 table. These are all high level correspondents for CNN, 3052 03:03:33,810 --> 03:03:37,140 Unknown: Kevin McCarthy has only a four seat majority, Kevin 3053 03:03:37,140 --> 03:03:39,900 McCarthy could be recalled essentially by his members at 3054 03:03:39,900 --> 03:03:42,780 any moment. One of his sharpest critics happened to be one of 3055 03:03:42,780 --> 03:03:47,220 the most popular programs among the mega base and Kevin McCarthy 3056 03:03:47,220 --> 03:03:49,590 is saying Tucker, if I give you these tapes stop saying this. 3057 03:03:49,650 --> 03:03:52,830 McCarthy is not especially conservative. He is in fact 3058 03:03:52,860 --> 03:03:57,990 ideologically agnostic first released the January 6 files, 3059 03:03:58,290 --> 03:04:03,150 not some of the January 6 files and video, all of it. And 3060 03:04:03,150 --> 03:04:07,020 there's worse than that. Really a conservative he's agnostic, he 3061 03:04:07,470 --> 03:04:10,140 laughs with the breeze. Uh, he has said worse is that simply 3062 03:04:10,140 --> 03:04:12,720 what this is? Maybe if I give this to you, you'll be nice to 3063 03:04:12,720 --> 03:04:17,640 me. Well, I think yes. As it seems, Oh, you 3064 03:04:17,640 --> 03:04:20,100 Adam Curry: missed it. You still listen to listen to this show? 3065 03:04:20,100 --> 03:04:23,220 Go back, multi CultI girl giggle in the background. This guy says 3066 03:04:23,220 --> 03:04:25,320 Oh, clearly that's that's a quid pro quo. 3067 03:04:25,350 --> 03:04:27,270 Unknown: Worse than that. I mean, he said she said he's not 3068 03:04:27,270 --> 03:04:29,790 really a conservative. He's agnostic. He you know, perhaps 3069 03:04:29,790 --> 03:04:32,400 with the breeze, or he has said worse. Is that simply what this 3070 03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:35,910 is? Maybe if I give this to you, you'll be nice to me. Well, I 3071 03:04:35,910 --> 03:04:40,080 think your question is yes. pretty transparent 3072 03:04:45,750 --> 03:04:49,710 Adam Curry: There you go. People that's why we're here. Not to 3073 03:04:49,710 --> 03:04:53,490 bring you outrage but to laugh at stupid people. That's why 3074 03:04:53,490 --> 03:04:56,820 we're really here. Should we call it a day? 3075 03:04:57,660 --> 03:04:59,220 John C Dvorak: I think we better Okay. 3076 03:04:59,369 --> 03:05:01,619 Adam Curry: All right. We I have so much work to do our post 3077 03:05:01,619 --> 03:05:04,499 production kind of fix all the things we said wrong. Gotta edit 3078 03:05:04,499 --> 03:05:08,219 it out. Gotta make you sound a little more ballsy takes me 3079 03:05:08,219 --> 03:05:09,479 hours to do all that so 3080 03:05:09,810 --> 03:05:11,460 John C Dvorak: and get closer to the mic that'll 3081 03:05:11,460 --> 03:05:17,340 Adam Curry: help. We have end of show mixes coming up. Let me see 3082 03:05:17,340 --> 03:05:22,350 who we have. We've got Matty J. Mr. Information is back Sir 3083 03:05:22,350 --> 03:05:25,950 Michael Anthony and Steve No, not Steve Jones. We caught him 3084 03:05:25,950 --> 03:05:30,360 out. Steve Oh, Leola Pukas right. Sorry, Steve. You got 3085 03:05:30,360 --> 03:05:36,450 vetoed. Coming up next I know agenda stream we got hogs Story 3086 03:05:36,450 --> 03:05:41,130 number 340 submarines. Submarine Scorpio is the title of that 3087 03:05:41,910 --> 03:05:46,500 Fletcher on the crew. You can keep listening to no agenda 3088 03:05:46,500 --> 03:05:50,190 stream.com or stay in the troll room or with the app that you're 3089 03:05:50,190 --> 03:05:52,350 at right now coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill 3090 03:05:52,350 --> 03:05:54,900 country. Here in FEMA Region number six in the morning 3091 03:05:54,900 --> 03:05:56,310 everybody I'm Adam curry 3092 03:05:56,550 --> 03:05:59,160 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain 3093 03:05:59,160 --> 03:06:00,990 I'm John C Devorah. We returned 3094 03:06:00,990 --> 03:06:04,710 Adam Curry: on Sunday right here with another hours and hours and 3095 03:06:04,710 --> 03:06:07,920 hours long of your media deconstruction until then adios 3096 03:06:07,920 --> 03:06:10,950 mofos Hui Hui, and such 3097 03:06:25,890 --> 03:06:29,190 Unknown: back in the day that backer would say Do No Harm now 3098 03:06:29,190 --> 03:06:32,520 they're sick sick with a stick a prick in your arm. Be quiet, 3099 03:06:32,550 --> 03:06:36,180 just try it. No need for alarm. The real star stuff feels like 3100 03:06:36,180 --> 03:06:40,050 an animal farm see the big wake pig state laughing cause they're 3101 03:06:40,050 --> 03:06:43,740 almost close to replace some cash with drugs. No meat for the 3102 03:06:43,740 --> 03:06:48,360 sheep just grass and bugs but dogs got so passed a bone we're 3103 03:06:48,360 --> 03:06:51,960 not alone but tribe itself that to the drones. They'll say that 3104 03:06:51,960 --> 03:06:54,960 you're crazier than gay on Jones for rationing gas. It's 3105 03:06:54,960 --> 03:06:58,110 happening fast. The times passing unmasking the sinister 3106 03:06:58,110 --> 03:07:01,770 side of high fashion. I tried to have compassion to live in let 3107 03:07:01,770 --> 03:07:05,280 live but refuse to be school stop pimping the kids use the 3108 03:07:05,280 --> 03:07:08,550 booze like to loose at the move on Route. Now these dudes look 3109 03:07:08,550 --> 03:07:12,360 like Swayze and to Wong foo shoot might be crazy, but I 3110 03:07:12,360 --> 03:07:15,090 don't think they can change genders and turn to what six 3111 03:07:15,090 --> 03:07:19,200 from left to right. Why does the media push sex and violence? Why 3112 03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:22,770 did they derive that humanity inside us and hide us from the 3113 03:07:22,770 --> 03:07:26,730 truth with the news shit is ruthless. Produce clueless 3114 03:07:26,730 --> 03:07:31,080 humans, who conclude meditation is useless but she never met a 3115 03:07:31,080 --> 03:07:35,460 Buddhist that would shoot kids medication students on computers 3116 03:07:35,520 --> 03:07:39,420 losing the youth kids Snapchat news reducing the potential of 3117 03:07:39,420 --> 03:07:43,140 other future dropping faster than teen ballers get in 3118 03:07:43,140 --> 03:07:46,890 boosters. psych meds live in life through a screen fact 3119 03:07:46,890 --> 03:07:51,030 tweets on sandy bars vaccines tick tock that stands for big 3120 03:07:51,030 --> 03:07:54,570 tech schemes. The long term effects remain to be seen. 3121 03:07:54,660 --> 03:07:59,190 What's up New York City. This is your mayor up on Staten Island 3122 03:07:59,220 --> 03:08:03,510 where we just had a visit from Florida Governor Ron De Santis. 3123 03:08:03,570 --> 03:08:06,990 And you know, I had to throw some shade on Twitter. Well, 3124 03:08:06,990 --> 03:08:10,620 Governor, I hope you enjoyed your visit to New York City, a 3125 03:08:10,620 --> 03:08:14,430 place where our school libraries is rated x a place where 3126 03:08:14,430 --> 03:08:18,630 everybody is either a victim or oppressor, a place where we 3127 03:08:18,630 --> 03:08:22,020 invite all immigrants and then complain when they show up a 3128 03:08:22,020 --> 03:08:26,010 place where a human being ain't nothing but a clump of cells. So 3129 03:08:26,010 --> 03:08:29,130 you go on back down to Florida now you're hurt. All right in 3130 03:08:29,130 --> 03:08:32,040 New York City. I'm gonna see y'all later stay woke 3131 03:08:44,280 --> 03:08:49,050 and I will say that there no major plot twist waiting for 3132 03:08:49,050 --> 03:08:49,170 you. 3133 03:08:50,970 --> 03:08:54,720 We are now hearing from someone who was inside the grand jury 3134 03:08:54,720 --> 03:08:57,900 that investigated the election crimes of Donald Trump. 3135 03:08:58,170 --> 03:09:00,780 That's not the way I expected this to go at all. 3136 03:09:00,840 --> 03:09:04,230 Potentially. It might. That was really cool for me. 3137 03:09:10,830 --> 03:09:14,550 I would say that I don't think that there any like, especially 3138 03:09:14,550 --> 03:09:15,630 if they've been following the 3139 03:09:15,630 --> 03:09:16,470 investigation. 3140 03:09:18,150 --> 03:09:22,380 By I'm sure that might have been. Totally, 3141 03:09:22,410 --> 03:09:25,170 that was pretty much that. Okay, we're good bye. 3142 03:09:25,529 --> 03:09:28,889 John C Dvorak: They're doing Satan. Worship right in front of 3143 03:09:28,889 --> 03:09:32,069 her throwing it in their face. Yes. At the beginning. 3144 03:09:32,340 --> 03:09:35,820 Adam Curry: They come from sky. She is at the top of the pyramid 3145 03:09:35,850 --> 03:09:39,840 in the red dress. She is the Red Queen. Everyone knows this is 3146 03:09:39,840 --> 03:09:42,720 the Red Queen. This is the devil. Yeah, she's pregnant with 3147 03:09:42,720 --> 03:09:46,260 the Antichrist, of course, but get the throne. You didn't see 3148 03:09:46,260 --> 03:09:49,290 that? Well, let me let me break it down for you because I saw it 3149 03:09:49,290 --> 03:09:54,720 right. You'd seen her red dress, Sam Smith, Rihanna, heaven 3150 03:09:54,720 --> 03:09:59,100 forbid. So everybody's read. She's thrown the Illuminati 3151 03:09:59,100 --> 03:10:03,780 triangle. Satan worship Wait a minute Illuminati bull crap. 3152 03:10:04,020 --> 03:10:06,930 John C Dvorak: It was just dumb. I mean, I like I said I just 3153 03:10:06,930 --> 03:10:10,770 thought it was lousy but it was boring it's what I watch for 3154 03:10:10,950 --> 03:10:13,110 this what you watch for and this is where everyone thinks you're 3155 03:10:13,110 --> 03:10:18,000 great this is all Satan worship right in front of an NFL 3156 03:10:18,060 --> 03:10:22,830 audience is symbolic all ritual below 180 millions worldwide 3157 03:10:22,860 --> 03:10:23,970 once again she's 3158 03:10:23,970 --> 03:10:26,340 Adam Curry: pregnant with the Antichrist blows possible the 3159 03:10:26,340 --> 03:10:28,110 Antichrist has come up with the evidence 3160 03:10:28,110 --> 03:10:30,810 John C Dvorak: to prove it that was an IRA like just look at you 3161 03:10:30,810 --> 03:10:34,590 know, Thomas. Yeah, I think you probably right the queen is 3162 03:10:34,590 --> 03:10:35,550 Adam Curry: here to tell us 3163 03:10:44,310 --> 03:10:51,060 Unknown: hobo bora.org/in A, this is blatant 3164 03:10:51,090 --> 03:10:51,840 sexism.