1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,710 John C Dvorak: Are you gonna wear that? 2 00:00:02,009 --> 00:00:02,939 Unknown: Adam curry? 3 00:00:03,060 --> 00:00:06,810 Adam Curry: Jhansi Devora 1820 23 This is your award 4 00:00:06,810 --> 00:00:11,280 winning get my nation media assassination episode 1556 This 5 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:16,470 is no agenda, carrying zero sealed indictments and 6 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:19,020 broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here 7 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:22,200 in fingerings. And number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:22,650 curry 9 00:00:22,950 --> 00:00:26,010 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all 10 00:00:26,010 --> 00:00:31,170 wondering why Princess Diana is still in the news. I'm John C. 11 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:33,900 Dvorak. Buzzkill. 12 00:00:35,310 --> 00:00:38,400 Adam Curry: That was of all the things going on. I actually have 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,230 one article about that stupid hoax. Megan Markel, and Harry 14 00:00:43,230 --> 00:00:46,410 pulled off a bunch of hooey. 15 00:00:47,550 --> 00:00:50,640 John C Dvorak: What's weird to me is I was trying to get some 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,260 clips yesterday. And it's it was the start. It was top of the 17 00:00:55,260 --> 00:01:01,320 news. Of course, it was top of the news on NBC back to real. 18 00:01:01,559 --> 00:01:04,229 Adam Curry: Yeah, it was top of the news, everybody. 19 00:01:06,330 --> 00:01:08,370 John C Dvorak: First thing they did, did the Durham report. 20 00:01:08,370 --> 00:01:09,210 Forget it. 21 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:12,630 Adam Curry: Now? Why do that? No, we've got Harry and Meghan 22 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:18,090 in a cab, which which has eerie echoes of lady dies death. You 23 00:01:18,090 --> 00:01:19,920 know what, you know what this was? I'll just tell you right 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,240 now. Because you asked why is she in the news? Six hours 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,740 before the the authorities in the UK had once again reiterated 26 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:32,220 No, you are no longer Royals, you don't carry out your duties, 27 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:36,240 you do not get protection, you don't get a security detail. So 28 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:42,630 to prove how they need it, they got into a yellow cab and drove 29 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:46,050 home from an event in New York. And that's they were they were 30 00:01:46,050 --> 00:01:48,900 chased for two hours. I lived in Manhattan. This is not 31 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:51,420 happening. You know? Well, yeah. I 32 00:01:51,420 --> 00:01:54,780 John C Dvorak: have some of that straightened out to correct some 33 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:58,440 of your misconceptions. Oh, please. We really because 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:04,230 because TMZ devoted half their show to this when they were Oh. 35 00:02:04,860 --> 00:02:10,230 So what happened was they took off in four big sedans. And they 36 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:15,570 were chased along the FDR which they could do faster speeds. But 37 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:18,120 I don't know that FDR ends I don't know they could do it for 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,270 two hours. And so they went to a police department station and 39 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:26,220 said we need help from the police department. They put him 40 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:27,450 in a taxi cab get 41 00:02:27,450 --> 00:02:29,100 Adam Curry: in the cab, you stupid Brett's 42 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:32,400 John C Dvorak: this was bull crap from the get I mean, this 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,600 was I agree. 100% it's a hoax. And I didn't have the you 44 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,390 Adam Curry: just said 100%. Right in the first five minutes 45 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:40,200 of the show. 46 00:02:40,770 --> 00:02:45,690 John C Dvorak: Thank you. Okay. And so I'm going to I'm going to 47 00:02:45,690 --> 00:02:50,340 agree as what your thesis, but I had no idea of the Genesis, but 48 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:51,810 now I know. Yeah, you're right. 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,450 Adam Curry: Okay, so then what you did not see on the 50 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:59,460 mainstream news was, was the Durham report, long awaited long 51 00:02:59,460 --> 00:03:02,040 awaited term report. Actually, you did see it. If you're 52 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,190 watching. I think it's 300 pages too. Yeah. And I read through 53 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:07,830 John C Dvorak: pretty much all of it. It wasn't on CBS. It 54 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:09,930 wasn't on NBC. They talked about this. Oh, 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,730 Adam Curry: it was on NBC. I didn't see all the all the NBC 56 00:03:14,730 --> 00:03:19,830 products had it. But would you like would you like to first 57 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:24,390 hear the NBC products that were outrage, or, and lies? Or would 58 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:28,230 you like to hear the France 24, which had a surprisingly honest 59 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:28,830 report. 60 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:31,920 John C Dvorak: Oh, I'd rather hear the lies from NBC. 61 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,250 Adam Curry: All right. Well, let's start off with actually, 62 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:38,340 we'll start off with morning, Joe. 63 00:03:38,370 --> 00:03:41,250 Unknown: Thank you. This guy was the longest serving Special 64 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:46,470 Counsel for years. And the report offers us no new charges. 65 00:03:46,830 --> 00:03:53,220 No new revelations, not even new suggested rules for the FBI. I 66 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:56,970 mean, they were so horrible. She didn't even suggest any new 67 00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:01,290 rules. He also had investigations into political 68 00:04:01,290 --> 00:04:06,510 matters that he ended up offering no advice on just more 69 00:04:06,510 --> 00:04:10,650 bad writing and more bushing posturing to Trumpers. And 70 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:14,670 Willie, he actually re litigated cases that he lost in front of 71 00:04:14,670 --> 00:04:20,250 the juries that he faced over the last four years. Not any 72 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:24,630 convictions is another sad, pathetic attempt to make suckers 73 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:28,800 and we remember this because we showed their headlines. He 74 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,310 wanted to make suckers of pro Trump cable news hosts and right 75 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:37,050 wing newspapers are already getting burned huddling his lies 76 00:04:37,050 --> 00:04:42,150 before. What was his goal? His goal was to dramatic was to 77 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:46,530 trash premier law enforcement organizations in America and 78 00:04:46,530 --> 00:04:49,620 attack the men and women who serve every day. It's Department 79 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:55,110 of Justice. The only good news is, at least his four year 80 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:59,970 taxpayer funded boondoggle. It was funded by working America 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 ins walk through the working American lumpsum Trumpism is 82 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:13,140 over and Durham has nothing but a tarnished reputation to show 83 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:13,380 for 84 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:17,400 Adam Curry: Durham as a tarnished reputation. Let's do 85 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,180 the next 86 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:21,690 John C Dvorak: NBC check me for a jump to the day you wanted 87 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:22,740 Adam Curry: to hear the lies 88 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:25,650 John C Dvorak: What is this guy's problem? 89 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:29,520 Adam Curry: Well so the message went out amongst NBC Universal 90 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,750 clearly by the 91 00:05:30,750 --> 00:05:33,630 John C Dvorak: way and you did this and this is not read to me 92 00:05:33,630 --> 00:05:35,010 it's not NBC that's me. 93 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:39,540 Adam Curry: And I have an it's an NBC product. Yes, it is an 94 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:44,340 MVC pen I have I have an actual NBC product NBC News but first 95 00:05:44,340 --> 00:05:45,810 let's do another Ms. 96 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:49,770 John C Dvorak: Go back I want to know what is what was this guy 97 00:05:49,770 --> 00:05:51,090 trying to accomplish here? 98 00:05:51,690 --> 00:05:55,590 Adam Curry: Just to say there was no there there was a big 99 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:58,770 nothing burger. That was so pathetic. But that's that's what 100 00:05:58,770 --> 00:06:03,360 they all did. Every single NBC related report was pathetic like 101 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,950 this. I mean, there's some very real statements in here. And 102 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,380 again, I think France 24 did a pretty good job what but you 103 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:14,490 want you wanted to hear the lies first. So let's go to Nicole 104 00:06:14,490 --> 00:06:18,900 Wallace with Andrew Weissman on to debunk this report together. 105 00:06:18,930 --> 00:06:21,300 Unknown: Andrew Weissman, Manafort, guilty or innocent in 106 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:25,020 a court of law Tilty gates guilty he didn't lose gates 107 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:28,710 guilty or innocent. Roger Stone guilty or innocent a quarter 108 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:32,310 lost guilty. Mike Flynn guilty or innocence. He pled guilty so 109 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:33,030 many times. 110 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:38,460 Guilty, admitted he was guilty. What's true and said to the 111 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:41,280 judge fault, I falsely said I was guilty. 112 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:44,430 Papadopoulos and the sinner Guilty, guilty. So 113 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,380 meet them out of their own mouths or the jury 114 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:53,849 because the whole thing is predicated on it's like a rabbit 115 00:06:53,849 --> 00:06:58,769 hole conspiracy. That suggests that the Trump bar paranoia 116 00:06:58,769 --> 00:07:03,209 infected his ability to stand back and evaluate whether the 117 00:07:03,809 --> 00:07:07,679 probe yielded guilty convictions of people who would have had 118 00:07:07,679 --> 00:07:11,219 nothing to do with any of these questions he looked at it is a 119 00:07:11,219 --> 00:07:14,879 view from so far down the rabbit hole that what needs a scrub 120 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:17,459 what needs some oversight is what Mr. Durham did for four 121 00:07:17,459 --> 00:07:21,179 years that repelled his longtime prosecutorial partner, Nora 122 00:07:21,179 --> 00:07:24,539 Dennehy and other high level DOJ prosecutors so 123 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:27,870 Adam Curry: again, nothing really about the report. Chest 124 00:07:28,050 --> 00:07:31,890 this was ridiculous. There was nothing there nothing to see NBC 125 00:07:32,430 --> 00:07:38,640 News. I don't know who this guy is. But um, MIT pretty much the 126 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,440 same, only a little more coherent. 127 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:45,179 Unknown: It's an exhaustive look at what the investigation code 128 00:07:45,179 --> 00:07:48,239 name, crossfire hurricane, and there are a lot of different 129 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:51,540 Adam Curry: this is true. That's really what the report was about 130 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:55,170 was about crossfire hurricane. And the conclusion overwhelming 131 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:58,830 from Durham was there was no evidence to start this 132 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:01,860 investigation in the first place. That is really the main 133 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:03,090 crux of his report, 134 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,870 Unknown: what the investigation code name, crossfire hurricane, 135 00:08:07,050 --> 00:08:10,080 and there are a lot of different rabbit trails that this report 136 00:08:10,260 --> 00:08:13,410 goes down. But I think fundamentally, what it does is 137 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:16,530 it suggests that the FBI should not have opened this 138 00:08:16,530 --> 00:08:18,990 investigation in the first place. And that, as you said, it 139 00:08:18,990 --> 00:08:23,850 did so too hastily based on uncorroborated information, and 140 00:08:23,850 --> 00:08:27,330 that basically the FBI was suckered by a bunch of people 141 00:08:27,330 --> 00:08:30,690 with political agendas. Now the problem with this thesis is that 142 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:34,290 it runs directly contradictory to another independent report by 143 00:08:34,290 --> 00:08:37,080 the Justice Department's inspector general back in 2019, 144 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:40,890 which took an exhaustive look and found that, in fact, there 145 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:44,070 was proper predication for this investigation if the FBI acted 146 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:47,430 appropriately in opening it, and also found no evidence, no 147 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:50,610 demonstrable evidence of political bias and doing it now 148 00:08:50,610 --> 00:08:53,370 obviously, one of the agents involves a man named Peter 149 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:56,700 strock, who was found later through text who have expressed 150 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:59,220 you know, the animus towards Donald Trump. He's not a Donald 151 00:08:59,220 --> 00:08:59,700 Trump fan. 152 00:09:00,420 --> 00:09:02,820 Adam Curry: Remember? Do you remember those texts? I think it 153 00:09:02,820 --> 00:09:06,990 was a little more than not a Donald Trump fan. It was great. 154 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Totally out to get him 155 00:09:10,620 --> 00:09:12,330 Unknown: to tend to miss towards Donald Trump. He was not a 156 00:09:12,330 --> 00:09:14,940 Donald Trump fan. But he was not the only decision maker here. 157 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:18,510 There were others. And look, there's a lot of different 158 00:09:18,510 --> 00:09:21,000 aspects to this report of him. One of the cases that Trump 159 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,090 tries to make is that information about potential 160 00:09:24,090 --> 00:09:26,820 counterintelligence threats involving the Clinton campaign 161 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,120 was treated differently. But what he doesn't address is the 162 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,250 context was so context who was publicly asking the Russians to 163 00:09:35,250 --> 00:09:39,930 find 30,000 missing emails, Bill Clinton, who was expressing 164 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,960 admiration for Putin. That was the context that Jerome really 165 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,740 doesn't address this report. Look, the other thing is a lot 166 00:09:46,740 --> 00:09:50,250 of policy changes, because there were some serious flaws in how 167 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:53,190 the FBI approached particularly its application for foreign 168 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:55,950 surveillance warrants and the rules have been entirely 169 00:09:55,950 --> 00:09:58,380 overhauled in that respect. There's also a new rule it says 170 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:01,530 the Attorney General has to prove any investigation into a 171 00:10:01,530 --> 00:10:04,260 political candidate or political campaign and a lot of people 172 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:07,530 would say that makes perfect sense given the stakes here. 173 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:11,610 Ultimately, this investigation, as everyone knows, did not find 174 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,970 formal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia. But 175 00:10:14,970 --> 00:10:18,120 it found a series of troubling contacts and a Senate, 176 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:21,030 Adam Curry: which is nothing in the report. There's there's 177 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:23,760 nothing in the report about troubling contacts I'll 178 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,820 Unknown: just committee report bipartisan went even further and 179 00:10:26,820 --> 00:10:29,700 said that these contacts pose a counterintelligence threat to 180 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:31,950 the United States because the Trump campaign essentially 181 00:10:31,950 --> 00:10:34,710 opened their arms to help from the Russians. 182 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:37,680 Adam Curry: I think you hear what's going on here. Like Well, 183 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:43,350 there was another inspector general's office to be ours. 184 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:49,230 It's it's they, they do a very good job of this. I have to say 185 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,490 they do a great job of just making it sound like there's 186 00:10:53,490 --> 00:10:55,980 nothing in there and that certainly was government had no 187 00:10:55,980 --> 00:10:59,430 evidence to open crossfire hurricane. Now, of course, he 188 00:10:59,430 --> 00:11:02,040 didn't charge any anybody. You know, I think there were like 189 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,930 three charges earlier, one, two were exonerated, one got, you 190 00:11:06,930 --> 00:11:13,320 know, slap on the wrist. The former Intel officials, they 191 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,010 were promoting the whole steel dossier, which is completely 192 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,790 torn apart as paid for paid for by the Clinton campaign in the 193 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:24,330 report. None of this, of course, is told nowhere actually. Key 194 00:11:24,330 --> 00:11:27,750 Foreign Affairs official saw no evidence Victoria Nealon Nuland 195 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:31,500 comes out smelling like a rose. She said she told the Durham 196 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,570 team Oh, she never saw any US government proof of the 197 00:11:33,570 --> 00:11:38,100 allegations. By I don't even remember hearing that to you. I 198 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:40,950 don't remember her say, well, she just wants to make sure she 199 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:44,550 doesn't get any glue on her. The Clinton campaign was behind the 200 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:48,330 whole thing. This is in the report. And then yeah, but 201 00:11:48,330 --> 00:11:52,200 that's covered over by the NBC products as all those double 202 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,280 standards but no Trump he said Putin helped me get the emails. 203 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,100 The opposites and research for the firm fusion GPS was all paid 204 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:04,830 for they went to the media before they went to the FBI, and 205 00:12:04,830 --> 00:12:09,120 it's really all in there. But yeah, there's no indictment. So 206 00:12:09,150 --> 00:12:12,930 now therefore, nothing. You got nothing. And even Jake Tapper, 207 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:17,820 this was 13 seconds that flew around the internet, which is 208 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:21,960 suspected best because it's only 13 seconds and cut off but here 209 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,350 it is, 210 00:12:22,380 --> 00:12:24,240 Unknown: regardless of the report is now here. It has 211 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,880 dropped and it might not have produced everything of what's 212 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,720 the Republicans vote for me. It is regardless, devastating to 213 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,980 the FBI into a degree it does exonerate Donald Trump. 214 00:12:35,010 --> 00:12:40,410 Adam Curry: Whoa, Jake. Dewan. Jake's a CIA guy. You see, we 215 00:12:40,410 --> 00:12:45,300 know that because he was at the birthday party of some, was it 216 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:50,010 the CIA director, not to the system director. I think we 217 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:53,100 heard from our boots on the ground. So he's a CIA guy, so he 218 00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:58,110 doesn't have no problem given the FBI. Here's France 24 Not a 219 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:03,030 Unknown: bad report just over 300 pages, detailing why the FBI 220 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:06,240 should never have launched a full scale investigation into 221 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,440 Donald Trump's 2016 campaign known as crossfire hurricane. 222 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:13,500 Special Counsel John Durham was appointed by the Trump 223 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:17,430 administration back in 2019. To review the origins of the probe 224 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:21,360 into links between Trump and Russia. Key claims that FBI 225 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,960 personnel bias led to a premature investigation. 226 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:28,290 Based on the evidence gathered in the multiple exhaustive and 227 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:31,680 costly federal investigations of these matters, including the 228 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:35,340 instance investigation. Neither US law enforcement nor the 229 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:38,730 intelligence community appears to have possessed any actual 230 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,760 evidence of collusion in their holdings at the commencement of 231 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,980 the crossfire hurricane investigation. 232 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:47,310 He's called on the Justice Department to appoint a neutral 233 00:13:47,310 --> 00:13:51,180 official to oversee politically sensitive probes. The report 234 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:54,150 noted differences in the way the FBI had handled the Trump 235 00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:58,530 investigation compared to other potential theories, like those 236 00:13:58,530 --> 00:14:02,220 involving Hillary Clinton. But a lot of the outlined concerns 237 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:05,130 aren't new, and had already been published in a report by the 238 00:14:05,130 --> 00:14:08,550 Justice Department Inspector General back in 2019. 239 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,810 We found and as we outlined here are deeply concerned that so 240 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:16,380 many basic and fundamental errors were made by three 241 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:19,770 separate handpicked investigative teams on one of 242 00:14:19,770 --> 00:14:22,170 the most sensitive FBI investigations. 243 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:25,830 In response to Durham's report the FBI said it has already 244 00:14:25,830 --> 00:14:29,250 implemented dozens of corrective actions that have been in place 245 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:32,850 for some time. The findings have provided Trump with some 246 00:14:32,850 --> 00:14:37,200 ammunition as he plans to run for re election in 2024 amid a 247 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,770 number of legal battles, but dorms report is actually much 248 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:44,250 milder than many may have been expecting after Trump predicted 249 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:48,300 a sweeping purge of the Bureau. While mistakes were revealed, 250 00:14:48,540 --> 00:14:52,230 Durham hasn't unveiled any new prosecutions and included no 251 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:55,080 recommendations for further reforms to the FBI. 252 00:14:55,410 --> 00:14:58,290 Adam Curry: I think that's pretty honest. That report Yeah, 253 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,010 pretty good. I've heard now This leaves only one one person kind 254 00:15:02,010 --> 00:15:04,530 of hanging out there in the lurch. And he's now calling for 255 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:10,140 prosecution of those who lied on the steel dossier. And that will 256 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:14,790 be Adam Schiff, who, of course, we need to supercut for a moment 257 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:18,030 to remind everybody what he was saying throughout this whole 258 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:19,020 process. Yes, 259 00:15:19,050 --> 00:15:22,050 Unknown: what evidence we have seen to date, what evidence we 260 00:15:22,050 --> 00:15:24,240 have seen in terms of the Russian hacking and dumping 261 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,090 operation, what evidence we have seen in terms of the Russian 262 00:15:27,090 --> 00:15:30,840 social media campaign, their paid media campaign. And yes, 263 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,020 the issue of collusion with the Trump campaign, there is 264 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:37,080 significant evidence, much of it in the public domain on the 265 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,550 issue of collusion want 266 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:41,760 to get to the point of what collusion is, is sort of what 267 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,150 hasn't been proven here between whatever the Russians did, and 268 00:15:45,150 --> 00:15:47,340 the Trump campaign. In fact, the former acting director of the 269 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:51,150 CIA, who was a mike Morel, who was a supporter of Hillary 270 00:15:51,150 --> 00:15:55,350 Clinton, he essentially reminded people took Director Clapper at 271 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:59,070 his word on this show, who said, there has been no evidence that 272 00:15:59,070 --> 00:16:01,050 has been found of collusion, or 273 00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:04,440 Adam Curry: I love this Devorah schism, this throwing the no 274 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,480 evidence out there. This is good. Still took the right 275 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,650 you're picking it up? Yeah. 276 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,900 Unknown: But his word on this show who said there has been no 277 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:14,190 evidence that has been found of collusion? Are we at the point 278 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:18,090 of at what point? Do you start to wonder if there is a fire to 279 00:16:18,090 --> 00:16:20,580 all this smoke? Well, first of all, I 280 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:23,310 was surprised to see Director Clapper say that because I don't 281 00:16:23,310 --> 00:16:27,000 think you can make that claim categorically as it did. I would 282 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,550 characterize it this way at the outset of the investigation. 283 00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:32,430 There was circumstantial evidence of collusion. And I 284 00:16:32,430 --> 00:16:32,640 think 285 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:35,790 it's a circuit all you have right now is a circumstantial 286 00:16:35,790 --> 00:16:36,270 case. 287 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,970 Actually, no, Chuck, I can tell you cases more than that. And I 288 00:16:41,970 --> 00:16:44,610 can't go into the particulars. But there was more than 289 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:48,570 circumstantial evidence now says, again, I think Do 290 00:16:48,570 --> 00:16:49,890 you have seen direct 291 00:16:49,890 --> 00:16:54,060 evidence of collusion? I don't want to go into specifics. But I 292 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:58,230 will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial, and 293 00:16:58,260 --> 00:17:01,530 and is very much worthy of investigation. So can you 294 00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:04,080 agree that there has been no evidence of collusion, 295 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,470 coordination, or conspiracy that has been presented thus far 296 00:17:07,530 --> 00:17:09,210 between the Trump campaign and Russia? 297 00:17:10,619 --> 00:17:13,079 No, I don't agree with that at all. I think there's plenty of 298 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:16,019 evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight. 299 00:17:16,050 --> 00:17:18,750 So I think at this point in time, it's really difficult for 300 00:17:18,750 --> 00:17:21,630 me and many Americans to differentiate between what is 301 00:17:21,630 --> 00:17:24,720 overhype and what isn't. You've said on more than one occasion 302 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,170 that you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaigns Russia 303 00:17:28,170 --> 00:17:31,500 collusion. Last March, you said you had more than circumstantial 304 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:35,400 evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia. What specifically 305 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 were you referring to? And please be specific, because if 306 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,600 it's true, I do believe Americans have the right. Well, 307 00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:44,670 I've certainly 308 00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:47,040 certainly said that there's ample evidence. 309 00:17:48,330 --> 00:17:50,580 Adam Curry: The guy is just a liar. And so now all we have to 310 00:17:50,580 --> 00:17:53,100 go after the people who lied on the Steel report, which 311 00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:56,520 John C Dvorak: was Schiff shifts who who's going to be the next 312 00:17:56,970 --> 00:18:02,010 US senator? For California? Yeah. Is a stooge for the 313 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:08,130 Chinese Communist Party, as is his cohort. Swalwell. California 314 00:18:08,130 --> 00:18:12,480 is loaded with these guys. Yeah, man. Y'all, y'all, we can't get 315 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,330 rid of them. Because the California Voter is so stupid. 316 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:18,480 They can't they can't. They can't say hey, this guy is a 317 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,190 liar. Why am I voting for him? No. Vote for him as a vote for I 318 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:25,830 mean, as far as I'm concerned, if you're a Democrat, you should 319 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:30,120 be voting for Barbara Lee. Barbara Lee, the socialists from 320 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:33,180 Berkeley is at least as her own socialist, she doesn't work for 321 00:18:33,180 --> 00:18:36,480 the Chinese Communist Party. She's not a phony. She's 322 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,490 definitely not a phony. And she has, you know, unless what has 323 00:18:41,490 --> 00:18:44,040 to happen in California, just for people that are trying to 324 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,560 keep tabs on this is Feinstein who looks like a physical wreck. 325 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:52,050 Adam Curry: She's has to respond. She's doing great. She 326 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:53,190 says, she can't 327 00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:58,470 John C Dvorak: even open one I actually, she needs to resign. 328 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:02,340 And then Newsom has to have the courage to replace her with 329 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:05,220 Barbara Lee, who then becomes the incumbent, but he won't, 330 00:19:05,490 --> 00:19:07,680 it's going to be very difficult for him to do with all the 331 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,330 pressure from the bad actors like Schiff. 332 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:15,090 Adam Curry: Well, let's stick with China for a moment. You 333 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:18,090 probably heard the news that Montana finally pulled the 334 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:18,630 trigger. 335 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:21,630 Unknown: Montana has become the first state to enact a complete 336 00:19:21,630 --> 00:19:25,170 ban on Tik Tok. The governor there signed that bill today. 337 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,710 The measure is set to take effect on January 1, the law 338 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:32,580 bans downloads of Tik Tok in the state and would find any quote 339 00:19:32,610 --> 00:19:34,590 entity like your phone's App Store 340 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:40,110 or Tick Tock $10,000 per day for each time someone is offered the 341 00:19:40,110 --> 00:19:43,410 ability to access those penalties would not apply to 342 00:19:43,410 --> 00:19:46,680 users. The move is expected to be challenged legally with a 343 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,580 tick tock spokesperson arguing it infringes on people's first 344 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:51,630 amendment rights. 345 00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:54,660 Adam Curry: So of course, this is this is phenomenally funny. 346 00:19:54,870 --> 00:20:00,690 So the Apple and Google Play app stores will not be allowed To 347 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,980 offer these tick tock for download, you can use it if you 348 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:08,640 got it if you side loaded or if you use the web browser, I guess 349 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:11,850 this isn't such a bullcrap 350 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:14,820 John C Dvorak: illegal, illegal, totally legal, and it'll be 351 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:17,130 thrown at it within a week. 352 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,810 Adam Curry: Well, but here's the cool stuff. So one of the one of 353 00:20:21,810 --> 00:20:27,150 the senators who was pushing this restrict act is Warner 354 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:29,220 Democrat from Where's Warner from? 355 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,340 John C Dvorak: Are you talking about the national Act this 356 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:32,580 year? 357 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,270 Adam Curry: No, but I'm just this Montana is, you know, their 358 00:20:36,270 --> 00:20:38,010 broader game, I 359 00:20:38,010 --> 00:20:39,690 John C Dvorak: think Warner Sure, Virginia. But I'd have to 360 00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:40,740 look it up. I'm not sure. 361 00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:46,170 Adam Curry: So Warner is one of the sponsors, one of the authors 362 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,070 of the Restrict Act, which as we know, has been kind of touted as 363 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:55,410 a patriot 2.0 act. But it's all based upon this endless 364 00:20:55,410 --> 00:21:00,120 conversation about tick tock spying on tick tock, the Chinese 365 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,660 Communist Party that all your data unlike any other app in the 366 00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:07,560 App Store, but unlike anything from Facebook, or Instagram, or 367 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,430 any any other myriad of social networks. No, no, no, it's only 368 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:14,760 tick tock. And of course, they are going to influence the 369 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,970 American children into hating the country. You don't need tick 370 00:21:17,970 --> 00:21:18,480 tock. 371 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:22,590 John C Dvorak: You just need our grammar schools. That's right. 372 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:22,860 Just 373 00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:26,100 Adam Curry: just what I'm into school. But as we always know, 374 00:21:26,790 --> 00:21:32,370 when people get on a podcast, particularly it if you know 375 00:21:32,370 --> 00:21:37,470 what's coming, particularly politicians and people of other 376 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,920 public ilk. It's like they take a stab at 377 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:45,270 John C Dvorak: what happened? Yeah, they go, Oh, it's 378 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:47,790 Adam Curry: just a podcast. I can say whatever I want. Now, 379 00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:53,160 this happened to be the award winning pivot podcast, where 380 00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:58,710 Warner was asked about the Restrict act and Kara Swisher 381 00:21:58,860 --> 00:22:02,550 drilled and grilled him and Moon, what do we know? 382 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:05,190 Unknown: This is not just Americans. Canada has banned 383 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:09,390 tick tock EU, the Brits, Australians, the Indians have 384 00:22:09,390 --> 00:22:12,840 banded out the other governments abandoned just in terms of their 385 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,760 governmental use in the BBC. Not exactly some, you know, not 386 00:22:18,540 --> 00:22:20,940 progressive leaning groups have basically told all their 387 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:22,830 journalists get off Tik Tok because chances are you're 388 00:22:22,830 --> 00:22:26,640 getting monitored. Yeah. So the proof you you're the head of the 389 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,630 Senate Intelligence Committee. I'm 390 00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:29,100 guessing you've seen the proof. 391 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,740 I can tell you this. There is a reason why every law enforcement 392 00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:38,550 entity it's reason why the armed forces the reasons why every one 393 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:42,090 of our 17 intelligence agencies think that tick tock is a 394 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:43,200 national security rush. What's 395 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,700 the reason? Can we see 396 00:22:45,149 --> 00:22:48,659 I'm not gonna go on? Let's pass the bill and then they still 397 00:22:48,659 --> 00:22:51,599 gotta make the case of liberty until committed would have to 398 00:22:51,629 --> 00:22:55,619 then declassify I can't think I can't do magically declassify 399 00:22:55,619 --> 00:22:58,949 right now but you feel there's ample proof let me be Oh my God, 400 00:22:59,009 --> 00:23:04,289 let me not act like you eat at the absolute smoking done. Most 401 00:23:04,289 --> 00:23:09,479 of this potential abuse, not current and not current abuse. 402 00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:14,579 Adam Curry: Potential not current abuse. What a bunch of 403 00:23:14,579 --> 00:23:20,069 liars. The act like is happening all the time. Like oh, China's 404 00:23:20,069 --> 00:23:24,359 stealing our data. No, no, this is all for potential. Not 405 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,999 current abuse. I mean, this is why pivot is the award winning 406 00:23:29,999 --> 00:23:31,259 technology podcast. 407 00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:33,690 John C Dvorak: They never talk about technology. 408 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,540 Adam Curry: No. Well, they consider this to be a technology 409 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:42,690 conversation. I guess. But yeah, so as we know this is partially 410 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:46,380 just to give meta and then 411 00:23:47,370 --> 00:23:49,020 John C Dvorak: they don't get they get a break from these 412 00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:50,910 advertise these guys are killing them. They 413 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:54,960 Adam Curry: really is outrageous. I mean, even what 414 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,270 was I mean, anything that's happening these days, it's on 415 00:23:57,270 --> 00:24:00,360 Tik Tok. It's not on YouTube. People aren't streaming live on 416 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:04,350 Facebook anymore. All all the good stuff is all on tick tock. 417 00:24:05,550 --> 00:24:09,690 Be right away. Boom. People are recording stuff. Oops, put it 418 00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:13,320 out there. What was the they're filming the new movie Twister, 419 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,980 forget where they were filming it. And there was already 420 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:18,270 John C Dvorak: a movie twist. Oh, 421 00:24:18,270 --> 00:24:22,500 Adam Curry: this is Twister five. Not a single back. You 422 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:25,080 know, they're doing it on streets of Oklahoma. I don't I 423 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,140 forgot where it is. So I'm gonna email me about it. So there's 424 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:33,720 not a single video on on Facebook or on the no real no 425 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,410 real is all on tick tock. This is where everyone's going. So 426 00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:41,520 yeah, they're all part of this. It's also you know, the, the 427 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,790 political part is, you know, China, let's get China to get 428 00:24:44,790 --> 00:24:45,480 China. 429 00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:48,990 John C Dvorak: You know, I'd like to see a discussion on 430 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:50,940 something a little more important than this. They are 431 00:24:50,970 --> 00:24:55,290 stealing all our data. And the conversation should be about how 432 00:24:55,290 --> 00:25:00,120 they hell did all these hot shots in Silicon Valley, who had 433 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:05,640 tried stuff with vine and others these other ideas of short 434 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,170 videos How did they have their overnight almost have their 435 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,570 asses handed to him by a Chinese company called tick tock or by 436 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,530 the company that runs tick tock, just out of the blue, and then I 437 00:25:19,530 --> 00:25:22,830 can't now they can't even compete with them. How does that 438 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:26,190 work? That that's the most important question. Why we're 439 00:25:26,190 --> 00:25:28,500 supposed to be the big leaders in technology. 440 00:25:28,650 --> 00:25:31,680 Adam Curry: I think the answer is simple. That all the good 441 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,660 stuff you know, the the tech company American tech companies 442 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:41,160 have the government so deep up their arses that Oh, no, you got 443 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,620 to take that off. Oh, no, that's insulting. Oh, no, that's 444 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:46,830 misinformation and Tik Tok had none of that there's like no go 445 00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:50,700 away we're gonna get post all this stuff and they they weren't 446 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,720 using the the American media model which is always you know, 447 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,360 ball get to people pitted against each other. Yeah, that's 448 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:00,480 great. Get them fighting online. Now the TIC tock but now you get 449 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,490 all this stuff and all you people go over there. Hey, you 450 00:26:02,490 --> 00:26:05,790 got pink hair, bad trends over here. It's great. We've 451 00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:09,990 deconstructed curries. Peach, peach. That's right. Freeze. 452 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:13,680 Peach is what it's all about. But there is a new, a new 453 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,950 boondoggle. This is the AI conversation. I watched three 454 00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:25,890 hours of this of this hearing, which was led by Blumenthal, 455 00:26:26,370 --> 00:26:35,190 Blumenthal. And had Holly as the as the minority leader, I guess 456 00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:38,670 is what they call it. So he's the other side. Just they're 457 00:26:38,670 --> 00:26:42,000 sitting next to each other and they had three people. They had 458 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,870 some lady who is she's already have you on? Oh, it would be 459 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:52,380 fun. She had some lady who's in government was already in there 460 00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:56,880 like she's some from some Office of Technology safety. Something 461 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:02,280 that nobody cares about useless job. They had Sam Altman who is 462 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,260 the CEO of of open AI, and he has he's there for very specific 463 00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:09,420 Miss mission, which we'll find out. It's very, it's very, this 464 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,840 is such an easy one to deconstruct. And then they have 465 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:20,250 a third guy. The third guy they had there was Gary Marcus. You 466 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:21,660 know who Gary Marcus's 467 00:27:23,970 --> 00:27:26,100 John C Dvorak: name rings a bell, but I don't know who 468 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:30,750 Adam Curry: it is. He is the guy that he sold his geometric 469 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:37,290 intelligence, machine learning startup to Uber. He also started 470 00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:43,140 the company that the CO invented Roomba. No real high level AI 471 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:48,090 type style robot. This Yes. Hi, robot. Exactly. That's this guy. 472 00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:52,320 And so he I guess it was that he's clearly a stooge. He's, 473 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,620 he's a psychologist. And he writes books. What are his 474 00:27:55,620 --> 00:28:00,210 books? Guitar zero. Cluj? So he's a stooge in there just to 475 00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:02,550 say, oh, yeah, it's very dangerous. Oh, it's incredibly 476 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,190 dangerous. So three, these three people, there's no one from 477 00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:08,760 barf. There's no one from Microsoft, who of course have 478 00:28:08,790 --> 00:28:12,270 who run this whole, you know, who run everything on there as 479 00:28:12,270 --> 00:28:17,760 your platform. And then you have this Sam guy that you know, who 480 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,930 as we know, takes almost no regular small salary has no 481 00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:25,680 stock in the company. He's just doing this because he likes it. 482 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,800 He likes his job. What a bunch of crap that is. So Blumenthal 483 00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:37,350 opens up with a couple like I have 30 seconds. And then he 484 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:38,850 does this. Our goal is 485 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:42,930 Unknown: to demystify and hold accountable those new 486 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:47,640 technologies to avoid some of the mistakes of the past. Right, 487 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,700 what now, for some introductory remarks, too often, we've seen 488 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:57,630 what happens when technology outpaces regulation, like why 489 00:28:57,630 --> 00:29:01,560 unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation 490 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,880 of disinformation and the deepening of societal 491 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,250 inequalities. We have seen how algorithmic biases can 492 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:16,950 perpetuate discrimination and prejudice, and how the lack of 493 00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:21,510 transparency can undermine public trust. This is not the 494 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:27,240 future we want. If you were listening from home, you might 495 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,010 have thought that voice was mine. No words from me, but in 496 00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:40,410 fact, that voice was not mine. The words were not mine. And the 497 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,690 audio was an AI voice cloning software trained on my floor 498 00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:51,420 speeches. The remarks were written by chat GBT when it was 499 00:29:51,420 --> 00:30:00,210 asked how I would open this hearing. And you heard just Now 500 00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:07,620 the result. I asked chat GPT Why did you pick those themes and 501 00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:13,260 that content? And it answered, and I'm quoting, Blumenthal has 502 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:16,380 a strong record in advocating for consumer protection and 503 00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:19,920 civil rights. He has been vocal about issues such as data 504 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,370 privacy, 505 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,140 John C Dvorak: blowing his own horn, 506 00:30:23,790 --> 00:30:26,550 Unknown: the potential for discrimination and algorithmic 507 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:31,650 decision making. Therefore, the statement emphasizes these 508 00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:32,400 aspects, 509 00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:35,640 Adam Curry: this is how these Jamocha literally went into this 510 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,890 hearing. Boy, it's a magical box, a took just Mike my clearly 511 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:44,580 very patriotic stance against horrible technology, it 512 00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:48,840 recreated my voice, and then it's so true. Chechi beauty is 513 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,070 magic. It's very dangerous, because you know, could put us 514 00:30:53,070 --> 00:30:53,760 out of work. 515 00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:57,060 John C Dvorak: Work we wish 516 00:30:57,090 --> 00:31:00,480 Adam Curry: and they just went on and on and on with all this 517 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,680 stuff. Oh, it's both it's out of control. Now, this was for one 518 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,950 thing and one thing only they want regulation and they want 519 00:31:07,950 --> 00:31:10,920 reg just like they want regulation against tick tock so 520 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,410 that they can actually build their little moat around the 521 00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:16,050 technology. And I'll get to that in a moment after we hear this 522 00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:17,910 CBS report today on Capitol 523 00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:20,550 Unknown: Hill, members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grill 524 00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:23,550 the head of the artificial intelligence company that makes 525 00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:28,200 chat GPT on the dangers posed by the quickly evolving technology. 526 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:31,080 CBS Scott McFarlane reports. The hearing comes as lawmakers 527 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,410 debate new rules aimed at regulating AI 528 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:38,730 and accompanies a Senate hearing on artificial intelligence began 529 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:40,710 artificially too often. 530 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,730 We have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation. 531 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:48,240 The chairman played an AI generated version of his own 532 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,290 voice and words pretty impressive. Sam Altman who 533 00:31:52,290 --> 00:31:56,670 operates the virally successful Chad GPT compared new advances 534 00:31:56,670 --> 00:32:00,360 in AI to the invention of the printing press, but acknowledge 535 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,020 the risk. 536 00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:03,660 Adam Curry: I think if this How many times have we not heard, 537 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:07,470 this is as big as the printing press. How many times we heard 538 00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:13,200 that from from Congress 100 times. Blogs are as important as 539 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,800 the printing press. Podcasts are as important invention as the 540 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,550 printing press. Social networks are as important in invention as 541 00:32:20,550 --> 00:32:24,030 the printing press. Gutenberg is rolling in his grave 542 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,820 Unknown: invention of the printing press. But acknowledge 543 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:27,480 the risk. 544 00:32:27,659 --> 00:32:30,989 I think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong. 545 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,040 Congress is concerned at risks waiting too long to pass laws to 546 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,430 govern AI after failing years ago to set safety rules for 547 00:32:38,430 --> 00:32:39,660 social media. We should 548 00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:42,240 be concerned for our privacy, we should be concerned for our 549 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000 liberty. And we should be concerned for our control over 550 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,930 our lives from the 551 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,410 even the industry itself is urging Congress to create safety 552 00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:52,710 rules potentially requiring government approval for future 553 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:56,310 AI innovations. More congressional hearings and AI 554 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:59,460 are set for later this week. In the meantime, some of the ideas 555 00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:03,420 floated include government safety labels for AI technology, 556 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,740 and Nora federal agency to license and police the industry. 557 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,410 Adam Curry: There you go. So they want licensing policing. 558 00:33:10,410 --> 00:33:14,880 They want complete protection the same way. Now, I have some 559 00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:15,930 idea. Here's 560 00:33:15,930 --> 00:33:19,140 John C Dvorak: a here's a short clip from a elegir zero AI 561 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:19,950 regulation. 562 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,510 Adam Curry: Oh, good. I'm glad you have something 563 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:24,210 Unknown: that the head of the company that created chat GPT 564 00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:27,510 has warned us senators that artificial intelligence needs 565 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:31,650 regulation. Sam Altman says it's essential to curb the risks by 566 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,730 increasingly powerful AI as Congress is assessing possible 567 00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:38,910 threats, including potential manipulation of the 2020 568 00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:39,600 election. 569 00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:41,700 Adam Curry: Well, of course, of course. 570 00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:43,320 John C Dvorak: Did you hear that? Oh, no. 571 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Adam Curry: This is all over this all over the here. It's 572 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,140 just just 573 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:49,740 John C Dvorak: in case Trump wins. Yeah. manipulated 574 00:33:49,770 --> 00:33:54,450 Adam Curry: AI manipulation. Chad GPT. That made us lose. It 575 00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:57,540 gets biased. It's biased. I tell you it's bias. 576 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,150 John C Dvorak: This happened before the 2016 election. It 577 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:02,340 happened before the 2020 election. They put all these 578 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:06,420 things in place. Google led the denial during the tweet after 579 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:11,940 the 2016 elections that Trump won is completely forgotten by 580 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:15,240 the mainstream media went on for for it till this day. 581 00:34:16,590 --> 00:34:18,750 Adam Curry: All right. So let me just give you a little overview. 582 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:23,760 I did not spend the three days in between shows putting Chad 583 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,690 GPT on my Pixel, although I do believe I do believe that will 584 00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:31,710 be possible. And we have many dudes named Ben who have chimed 585 00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:33,690 in and said, Oh, yeah, you can totally run it on your own 586 00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:37,170 hardware. But here's what I've learned because I've learned 587 00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:39,510 some things this is important than doing anything but you can 588 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:44,610 run it. No, it actually does. Here, here's why everything went 589 00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:49,200 wrong. It was and I think this is a genius play and you'll like 590 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:55,920 this a genius play by Zuckerberg because it was meta who open 591 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,300 source their AI now with that when I say AI in this As I'm 592 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:05,130 talking about the large language model, this is not the training 593 00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:08,370 part, this is the part that interprets language knows what, 594 00:35:08,610 --> 00:35:11,700 what your can interpret what you're saying, based upon this 595 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:15,510 model of words, and then can also speak back to you in some 596 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:20,940 form of human voice based upon this large model. Stanford then 597 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:25,050 took this and they started to create something that people 598 00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:28,200 could actually use at home. I'm cutting a lot of corners here. 599 00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:32,730 So I went from LL M, the large language model to llama to Al 600 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:38,760 pakka to doll, Dolly as in Dalai Lama, an n people were off to 601 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,060 the races, they could create all kinds of language 602 00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:46,740 interpretation. Now, the what what is interesting about this 603 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:53,430 technology is that we're used to cost $5 million to teach one of 604 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:56,490 these models, give them information, and all right now 605 00:35:56,490 --> 00:36:00,900 process it. So the can take questions and feedback answers, 606 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:05,220 that price has come down to about $500, in literally in the 607 00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:08,220 last six months. And people are now spreading it amongst their 608 00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:12,960 own CPUs, open source. And you can definitely make very 609 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,690 specific chat GPT type chat bots, as they're calling it now 610 00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:22,830 that we can either write code or in fact, anyone who wants to do 611 00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:26,670 it on and I'd love to see this. We have all no agenda show notes 612 00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:29,970 going back a decade, which are all XML structured data so that 613 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:33,150 you literally could do that with the articles in the show notes 614 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:36,510 and the links and the transcripts that we have. And 615 00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:39,810 that's the what, oh, so that you could ask questions of it from 616 00:36:39,810 --> 00:36:43,440 the no agenda knowledge base, and it would answer based upon 617 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,860 the training from the articles and the transcripts that we have 618 00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:50,610 collected over 10 years. That's what it would do. We could train 619 00:36:50,610 --> 00:36:51,390 it to do that. 620 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:54,900 John C Dvorak: Okay, so that we're we're gonna be stored. 621 00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:59,850 Adam Curry: It'll fit in that it'll fit in six gigabytes on a 622 00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:03,750 server. We're on the same page, John, so don't fight me because 623 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:07,920 I'm agreeing with you. But I'm telling you the backstory as to 624 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,480 why Google and Bing and others are going to fail at doing it 625 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,810 any of this because exactly what you point out. If you want to 626 00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:20,370 have this a search engine, be able to answer all questions of 627 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:24,840 the universe, there's no way it will ever get will there's no 628 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:27,900 business model for them in the universe that will work at a 629 00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:32,670 consumer level, too much power, too much crunching too much 630 00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:37,200 information. But for businesses, individuals, you can definitely 631 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,350 load this up and you can do it in your in your accounting 632 00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:45,360 office for certain IRS regulations, you can definitely 633 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,870 use this and there is no protection for Silicon Valley 634 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:54,180 and is my belief that Zuckerberg made this available, and then 635 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:59,310 somehow sparked this arms race, because Google was really caught 636 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,140 on the backfoot on this, and everyone's running around trying 637 00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:07,410 to create great stuff. Oh, it's the new blockchain and they're 638 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:10,680 failing left and right shit doesn't work. It has answers 639 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,980 wrong which they call hallucination. I think Facebook 640 00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:18,990 now swings left or does something that you know Zig 641 00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:22,590 where everyone else is zagging and they take some market share. 642 00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:27,360 I mean, it's so obvious that this was a purposeful action. To 643 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,450 make everybody run around with the with the world this is the 644 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,080 all that's all that they can talk about on CNBC oh ay ay ay 645 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,710 ay ay ay ay ay ay ay. Oh, what companies can be using AI. And 646 00:38:37,710 --> 00:38:42,510 Google has nothing. Being really has nothing. It doesn't work. 647 00:38:43,290 --> 00:38:44,850 But the actual technology 648 00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:46,680 John C Dvorak: like the blockchain analogy, 649 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:51,600 Adam Curry: that's what it is. So the but the actual technology 650 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,110 now that this the language model is and is only English, by the 651 00:38:55,110 --> 00:38:59,010 way doesn't work in in French, as far as I know. I don't think 652 00:38:59,010 --> 00:39:06,540 it's been done yet. It's a total cloud of bullcrap. Total. And 653 00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:11,100 now what they want is labels and a government agency and anything 654 00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,400 so they can gain some competitive edge. And I think 655 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,620 they're going to fail just like the failing with tick tock. 656 00:39:18,210 --> 00:39:21,240 nimbo the Restrict act? Oh, yeah. Oh, yo, boo, boo Ramnath 657 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,620 through this not really happening. So this is this is a 658 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,710 an albatross, particularly for Google. And I kind of like that. 659 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:36,810 That's funny. Well, 660 00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:40,170 John C Dvorak: Google's not a bunch of dummies. So I think 661 00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:43,380 there'll be some sort of a counter attack here. Well, we'll 662 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,050 Adam Curry: keep our eye on it. But right now, the only business 663 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:52,350 Chad GPT seems to be putting out of business is Google. They're 664 00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:55,860 reallocating all their resources for something that everyone is 665 00:39:55,860 --> 00:40:00,180 sitting on, but this sucks. So maybe if you get a rush Get 666 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:03,450 through Oh, we have to have Google it has to be the approved 667 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,080 AI for the 2024 election, I can see that I can see that work in 668 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:12,960 form, but not much else. And meanwhile, here's how artificial 669 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,770 intelligence is actually doing in the real world. It's great A 670 00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:19,560 car stopped in the middle of the street blocking emergency 671 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,000 responders, another getting very close to a city bus. This one 672 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,030 seemingly confused by road construction and frozen in his 673 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:27,510 tracks 674 00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:30,900 Unknown: finally stopped right before falling into a hole. Some 675 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:31,470 robot 676 00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:34,500 Adam Curry: drivers and training do not seem to have learned all 677 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:35,490 the rules of the road. 678 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:38,520 Unknown: I'm seeing at least one incident a day now with 679 00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:39,630 autonomous vehicles. 680 00:40:39,660 --> 00:40:41,970 Adam Curry: For years the city by the bay has served as the 681 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:45,810 testing ground for a fleet of Robo taxis from Google's Waymo 682 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,500 and GMs. Crews. Driverless cars you can hail with a touch of a 683 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,740 button. But when things go wrong, they are a traffic 684 00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:56,580 nightmare and posing real roadblocks for first responders. 685 00:40:56,610 --> 00:40:59,640 Unknown: The autonomous vehicle just like came in blocked him in 686 00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:01,740 Adam Curry: fire chief Janine Nicholson's people say without a 687 00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:04,650 driver at the wheel. robot cars often make the wrong choice 688 00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:05,790 around fire trucks. 689 00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:07,950 Unknown: They stop in the middle of the street and turn their 690 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:10,830 emergency blinkers on anytime they see flashing lights on an 691 00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:11,670 emergency Miko. 692 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:13,920 Adam Curry: Firefighters describe driverless cars rolling 693 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,830 into fire scenes running over hoses even having to break 694 00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:18,540 windshields to stop a vehicle. 695 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,000 Unknown: The technology is not ready for primetime. 696 00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:24,480 Director of Transportation here says 911 calls about robot cars 697 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640 have tripled in the last year. But here's the 698 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,820 thing. We have no regulatory authority over them whatsoever, 699 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,920 even though it's your city that's being affected. That's 700 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,170 right. It's our city and our streets. But the state of 701 00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:37,620 California has preempted municipal authority over 702 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:40,500 autonomous vehicles. Unlike taxis or scooters, 703 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960 Adam Curry: Wei mo says robot drivers are on their way to 704 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,070 being safer than humans. After all, more than 42,000 Americans 705 00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:50,220 died in vehicle accidents last year. When are we going to stop 706 00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:54,810 being stupid? Particularly in California this is this is where 707 00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:57,750 the Californians are stupid. They let that stuff on their 708 00:41:57,750 --> 00:42:03,000 streets. Yeah. I mean, it's it's insane. 709 00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:06,120 John C Dvorak: But oh, no, somebody's got to do it. Yeah, 710 00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:09,570 Adam Curry: but AI is gonna AI we need legislation for me to 711 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:12,300 get these cars out there driving all over the place. You gotta 712 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:17,160 smash the window to stop it. Yeah. Is that not also AI? 713 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:19,260 Unknown: It's totally. 714 00:42:19,350 --> 00:42:20,790 Adam Curry: Let's do one more. I got a short clip here. 715 00:42:20,819 --> 00:42:25,499 Unknown: We have very infrequent events that occur that they do 716 00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:26,549 get a lot of attention. 717 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,140 They say it's 3911 calls a day about autonomous vehicles. That 718 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:32,820 doesn't sound infrequent, but I have to say 719 00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:36,750 what I mean is relative to the number of miles that we drive 720 00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:40,260 and relative to the number of emergency vehicle contacts that 721 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:41,790 we face on a day to day basis, 722 00:42:41,819 --> 00:42:44,519 Adam Curry: we most Chief Safety Officer says that every mile of 723 00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,669 millions driven in California and Arizona teaches the whole 724 00:42:47,669 --> 00:42:52,529 fleet new skills and the company is expanding service here LA is 725 00:42:52,529 --> 00:42:52,949 next 726 00:42:52,979 --> 00:42:56,489 Unknown: we hope to increase the number of rides 10x by next 727 00:42:56,489 --> 00:42:57,269 summer a 10 728 00:42:57,270 --> 00:43:00,480 fold expansion of autonomous vehicles here in San Francisco 729 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,190 would have a dramatic impact on congestion it would result in 730 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:08,220 significant delays to our transit system and to emergency 731 00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:08,730 vehicle 732 00:43:08,759 --> 00:43:11,609 response time and it might even cause a threat to 733 00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:13,020 safety to hear us la 734 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,620 yes 735 00:43:14,670 --> 00:43:18,900 Adam Curry: la We're coming for you should let it loose on Skid 736 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:23,400 Row oh I'm sorry We mowed all the tents down 737 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:30,690 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a these reports are a dead 738 00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:33,990 prevalent around here. No they usually have only the one where 739 00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:35,100 the guy dies 740 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:39,030 Adam Curry: now just blocking traffic and stuff no one talks 741 00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:41,550 about it well they don't talk about anything in San Francisco. 742 00:43:42,090 --> 00:43:44,850 No doubt about all your all the stores closing 743 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:47,340 John C Dvorak: so they talk about the stores closing believe 744 00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:50,640 me now they do and although there's a bunch of my favorite 745 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,970 thing is did people out there should notice this is a news 746 00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:59,550 deconstruction little moment. It goes the Liberals go just the 747 00:43:59,550 --> 00:44:02,790 stores are closing because the rents are too high and they just 748 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:06,480 want to get a better price for their rents it's a scam because 749 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:12,000 if you look at wait right if you look at the debt the at the at 750 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,070 the crime statistics crime is way down. It's way down. Just 751 00:44:17,070 --> 00:44:21,660 look at the statistics. So this is a scam okay? That's bullcrap. 752 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:26,400 Statistics are down for a simple reason. There's no policing 753 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:30,270 there's no reporting of crimes right people don't call it in. 754 00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:34,230 shoplifting is not reported as a crime anymore. So does crime is 755 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:38,370 way down. No. These stores are being are being robbed left and 756 00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:43,650 right. We just had a guy shot some some poor security guards 757 00:44:43,650 --> 00:44:49,050 shot some shoplifted I was trying to get out of there. And 758 00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:52,530 there's luckily the new DA is saying it sitting on the side of 759 00:44:52,530 --> 00:44:55,380 the security guard. Although the entire city council is making a 760 00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:59,310 big fuss this guy should be in jail for murder. And even though 761 00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:02,820 it would deck kind of things should be in the public domain. 762 00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:05,520 So the shoppers don't think they can just come in, which is what 763 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,320 they're doing. They're just coming in and raiding these 764 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,560 places stealing everything that they can get their hands on, 765 00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:13,680 because of I think it was there's some law that was passed 766 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,090 statewide that said that crimes under that result and under 767 00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:21,390 $1,000 In theft under any circumstances a misdemeanor, you 768 00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:25,350 can't make it a felony. And that law has ruined the state and 769 00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:28,290 they don't know what to do about it. So nobody's reporting these 770 00:45:28,290 --> 00:45:32,550 crimes. Thus crime is down. crime is down, because nothing's 771 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:35,370 being reported. That's why it's down. It's bullcrap. 772 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:38,910 Adam Curry: I was kind of shocked to read this morning. 773 00:45:39,450 --> 00:45:44,880 You know, I lived in we lived in Jersey for good 910 years. And 774 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,820 does the swanky mall, the kind of the Rodeo Drive of the area, 775 00:45:50,820 --> 00:45:54,630 which was not not our mall, we had the Willowbrook Mall. But 776 00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:59,910 sometimes we drive to the Short Hills Mall. Well, masked men 777 00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:07,860 steal $125,000 In Dior handbags from the Short Hills Mall. This 778 00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:12,480 is 20 miles outside of New York City. Yeah, this is crazy. By 779 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,670 the way, that's only I think, three handbags from New York 780 00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:19,410 probably who knows how expensive those things are. But you know, 781 00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:24,150 this is this is a this is a reset of sorts. Really is. 782 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,620 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you go soft on crime. Yeah. With these 783 00:46:28,650 --> 00:46:31,500 ideas, oh, well, we just desperately needed some help any 784 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:36,120 counseling. These ideas and the criminals take advantage of it. 785 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,080 I mean, there are people that are that like, enjoy being 786 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,620 criminals. I just you know, it's no one wants to accept the 787 00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:44,910 simple fact. Yeah. 788 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,050 Adam Curry: So, so this whole this whole past week. There's 789 00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:54,930 just been text groups going around and around 790 00:46:55,650 --> 00:47:00,540 Fredericksburg. And I've seen this universally on email. 791 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,830 Buses, they're busing them in they're doing the buses to bring 792 00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:07,260 them in from the border in the middle of the night. You don't 793 00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:09,480 know what you're talking about. When we looked at the border 794 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:15,180 cameras, there's nothing going on zero. Does not steal. But 795 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:19,050 this is very typical of what I get boots on the ground report. 796 00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:22,680 I was just on the Arizona border this week and family members 797 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:25,770 it's always friend family members. Someone else explained 798 00:47:25,770 --> 00:47:30,210 to me what the video cameras are showing low traffic and no one 799 00:47:30,210 --> 00:47:33,450 the gum coming through the border. It's simple. They're 800 00:47:33,450 --> 00:47:36,060 busing the illegals over the border and during the dead of 801 00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:39,870 night. Family members see illegals hiking the canyons, 802 00:47:39,870 --> 00:47:42,720 then being bused out from midnight. And where are the 803 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,640 video you need to turn your speaker's down a little bit. 804 00:47:44,850 --> 00:47:49,290 Where are the videos? Where are the videos of this? They dropped 805 00:47:49,290 --> 00:47:52,500 them off somewhere these I've heard they're white buses. This 806 00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:57,120 is what's gotten out luckily we have a report from Sir Lucifer 807 00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:00,900 who actually went boots on the ground I think you might with an 808 00:48:00,930 --> 00:48:06,000 Owen Shroyer and they all that was a very funny video. He's 809 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:09,300 he's doing a very good Alex Young Alex Jones. Of course he 810 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:12,660 works for Infowars you know yelling about you dirty 811 00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:14,760 Americans, you know you're not allowed to see this. I mean, 812 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,030 he's doing a great job. But all they had was video of one bus. 813 00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:21,420 So here's sort of Lucifer as boots on the ground. He said our 814 00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:24,570 team arrived at El Paso Wednesday, June 10. So he was 815 00:48:24,570 --> 00:48:28,350 ready for the whole thing for the 11th, the 12th, etc. Our 816 00:48:28,350 --> 00:48:31,200 first stop was the Sacred Heart church two days before we 817 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,490 arrived, there was a video of over 2000 migrants living around 818 00:48:35,490 --> 00:48:38,760 the church when we arrived there were barely 100 Where did all 819 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,850 these migrants go? Their disappearance seemed to coincide 820 00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:44,730 with the masses of national and local media that arrived in El 821 00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:48,360 Paso on Wednesday, June 10. One of the local things and most of 822 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,120 the migrants at Sacred Heart were brought to a military base 823 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,810 in New Mexico, another fine one that was used for Afghan 824 00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:58,950 migrants during the withdrawal. Our security was alerted to the 825 00:48:58,950 --> 00:49:01,950 numerous neck tattoos on some of the young male immigrants, which 826 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:05,100 indicated they're part of a gang, most likely released from 827 00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:08,880 prison, and we counted 15 of these neck tattoos. 99% of the 828 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,310 people we saw are from Venezuela. And these are the 829 00:49:11,310 --> 00:49:14,430 people who were put onto a bus and they spend most of their 830 00:49:14,430 --> 00:49:19,200 time between border gates 40 and 42. And the scene was like what 831 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,530 was heard in the NTD report from the previous show? Yes, National 832 00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:25,350 Guard was there. Yes, they said a barbed wire. But we also have 833 00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:28,110 video of them assisting Border Patrol and processing migrants 834 00:49:28,110 --> 00:49:31,350 not keeping them from entering the country. But it really was 835 00:49:31,650 --> 00:49:37,350 nothing. There's nothing that had one one bus and then you 836 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:40,140 know the Border Patrol backed up trucks he couldn't see who was 837 00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:42,510 getting onto the bus. I'm going to presume that presumed that 838 00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:45,810 might have been some gang members or whatever. But there's 839 00:49:45,810 --> 00:49:49,560 just no evidence and what goes around here and this is what I 840 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,070 hate about it because it's political. You're all being spun 841 00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:56,280 up. This was the favorite one that Tina was put on this 842 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,980 thread. illegal alien fracking map shows movement of the mass 843 00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:06,000 of illegals across the US 71% end up in Republican districts 844 00:50:07,770 --> 00:50:10,890 and there's this and the cell phone map on the front page 845 00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:14,520 here. They say all you see Yeah, we tracked all the cell phones 846 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,480 and then they're all moving from the border and I'm until you 847 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,690 know me I like whoa, let me see what's going on where do they 848 00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:25,980 get the cell phone data from? Well, this is in fact from cell 849 00:50:25,980 --> 00:50:28,800 phone data that is also not explained where it was acquired 850 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,760 from from the Heritage Foundation from January 1 2022. 851 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,960 So the just rehashing stuff and people are going insane there 852 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,240 are people here in Fredericksburg going sending 853 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:41,910 text messages based upon this this story. 854 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:45,810 John C Dvorak: Lucky over a year and a half old yes lock 855 00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:49,890 Adam Curry: your doors be armed at all times. And this is 856 00:50:49,890 --> 00:50:54,510 spinning people up into oblivion the going nuts. Yeah, it's 857 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:59,100 really and this is bad. And this is all political. And I think 858 00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:02,070 it's really to me it's the Republicans who are doing this 859 00:51:02,070 --> 00:51:06,720 stuff. They are doing this they want to be they want to make 860 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,540 Biden look bad. Not that any of you know the 861 00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:11,940 John C Dvorak: thing is that this thing this this whole title 862 00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:17,100 40 Tuesday was a you know is going to was a bust. Yeah. Yeah, 863 00:51:17,130 --> 00:51:19,920 it was a bust and they were prepared for it not to be a 864 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,100 bust. And so that well what are we going to do? It's a bust 865 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,730 nobody's coming over didn't did the big throngs aren't showing 866 00:51:26,730 --> 00:51:29,280 up. What are we going to do? I don't know this run out the same 867 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,330 playbook anyway. 868 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,720 Adam Curry: Exactly what they did exactly what they did. And 869 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:37,440 they make him people crazy. And then and what are these outfits? 870 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:44,700 What is this? Your news.com? Who runs this outfit? And they 871 00:51:44,730 --> 00:51:47,970 literally have Fredericksburg, Texas, tu tu, tu tu tu tu do you 872 00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:52,740 put in your zip code? The Heritage oversight project and 873 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,490 date. And this was just some very sketchy data they had. I'm 874 00:51:56,490 --> 00:52:00,990 not saying that there isn't a problem at all. But come on 875 00:52:00,990 --> 00:52:05,580 people. Let's not get all riled up. You're right. And, and also 876 00:52:05,610 --> 00:52:08,670 now we have we saw it in Chicago. Oh, they're coming but 877 00:52:08,670 --> 00:52:11,010 they haven't come yet. By the way, that South Shore project. 878 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,710 That's gonna be real nice when people sell because they think 879 00:52:13,710 --> 00:52:17,040 that they need to move for the migrants. That's gonna be a nice 880 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,120 piece of real estate. 881 00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:21,690 John C Dvorak: Yes, a real estate scam. And part of it is 882 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,330 Adam Curry: and in New York. Well, the mayor, I mean, he's 883 00:52:24,330 --> 00:52:29,430 going crazy. Oh, but what are we can have on they're putting. 884 00:52:30,030 --> 00:52:35,850 They're preparing the migrants to go into school gymnasiums. 885 00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:38,940 And I haven't actually seen the migrants in the gymnasiums yet. 886 00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:40,260 But everyone's doing 887 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,680 John C Dvorak: some tuning Jim nations have J had him in some 888 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,550 gymnasiums, because it was shown. They had the video and 889 00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:50,610 then they rousted them. And then they tried to move them off to 890 00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:54,870 the county discovered pretty adequately by the national news, 891 00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:58,410 okay, but it's not. It's not what what they don't know what 892 00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:02,190 to do in New York because New York, the big hotshot sanctuary 893 00:53:02,190 --> 00:53:05,970 city can't really take the influx of these people. No, 894 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,140 there in fact, there's one report where they're moving. And 895 00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:14,220 this turns out to be just a physical, a monetary thing. 896 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,170 They're moving homeless veterans out of some of the hotels in New 897 00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:22,320 York and moving the migrants in the migrants in because the 898 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,060 homeless veterans were they were paying the hotels $99 A night, 899 00:53:27,210 --> 00:53:35,880 but the the migrants get 199 So the homeless veterans are ousted 900 00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:38,520 is the way that this was reported. I think rants are one 901 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,350 of these east west coast guys did this. The the homeless 902 00:53:43,350 --> 00:53:46,740 veterans are kicked out for the migrants because there's more 903 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:47,130 money 904 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,530 Adam Curry: another 100 bucks extra. Yeah. 905 00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:52,050 John C Dvorak: I mean, what would you do, though? 906 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,710 Adam Curry: But besides that, I think it's it's all political on 907 00:53:55,710 --> 00:54:00,000 all sides, what's going on? All In fact, everything is all about 908 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,950 the 2024 election. Every day the news media has completely 909 00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:09,390 capitulated they're just taking any talking points from anybody 910 00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:11,760 that I don't think they even have enough money to do 911 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,930 reporting anymore. I don't think doesn't it doesn't appear to be 912 00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:16,140 that 913 00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:18,690 John C Dvorak: way. Well, they're not doing it whatever 914 00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:22,380 the case of most of the I mean, all my I have a lot of overseas 915 00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:26,970 stuff here. That's that's not being reported at all. I mean, 916 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:30,840 the Durham report. misreporting is one thing, but just not just 917 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,420 leaving complete things. Let me play a couple clip. Yeah, 918 00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:37,920 please. play this clip. Did you know this was going on? This is 919 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,530 the yikes clip. Well, 920 00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:44,010 Adam Curry: just from the title of the clip, I have no idea 921 00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:47,340 Unknown: on the French President Nicolas Sarkozy has lost an 922 00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:50,700 appeal against his conviction for corruption. Why according 923 00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:54,480 Paris upheld his three year prison sentence, but two of the 924 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,300 years have been suspended. And the court said he could serve 925 00:54:57,300 --> 00:55:00,390 the third by wearing an electronic bracelet. So Sarkozy, 926 00:55:00,390 --> 00:55:02,910 his lawyers repeated his claim of innocence 927 00:55:03,210 --> 00:55:04,440 Adam Curry: jokes, indeed, 928 00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:08,340 John C Dvorak: when I said, Did you know that that Sarkozy was 929 00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:09,510 being imprisoned? 930 00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:13,110 Adam Curry: I knew he was in trouble, but what on earth for 931 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:14,670 that he would go to jail. 932 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,479 John C Dvorak: This is not being reported at all in this country. 933 00:55:19,049 --> 00:55:22,499 Now, I have to wonder why is it because it was? Well, it's 934 00:55:22,529 --> 00:55:25,229 because then you, you know, we should be arresting Trump. I 935 00:55:25,229 --> 00:55:29,309 mean, it's got something to do with politics in this country 936 00:55:29,429 --> 00:55:33,599 that that story has been repressed is a good story. 937 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,620 Adam Curry: Yeah. It's a very good story. But what did he do? 938 00:55:38,190 --> 00:55:40,560 John C Dvorak: Corruption of some sort? Who knows? I mean, 939 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,050 it's been could have been some trumped up stuff like we've had 940 00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:44,160 here in this country. 941 00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:47,130 Adam Curry: corruption and influence peddling. Oh, brother. 942 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,950 Oh, no, we can't have that because that would put Biden 943 00:55:49,950 --> 00:55:52,170 front and center. That's how you'd have to report it. 944 00:55:52,170 --> 00:55:54,150 President Biden has also been accused. 945 00:55:55,050 --> 00:55:57,360 John C Dvorak: Of influenced by peddling Yes, literally, because 946 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,020 of his kid, 947 00:55:58,110 --> 00:56:01,050 Adam Curry: literally influence pet allow him all kinds of other 948 00:56:01,050 --> 00:56:02,880 beautiful stuff when he was vice president. 949 00:56:03,209 --> 00:56:05,609 John C Dvorak: So does that the reason you think that they would 950 00:56:05,759 --> 00:56:10,109 suppress the Sarkozy story? Because it would, it would not 951 00:56:10,109 --> 00:56:14,189 look favorably on Biden. I mean, your images are ridiculous. When 952 00:56:14,189 --> 00:56:19,649 I heard this story. I got it on Al Jazeera. I was befuddled. I 953 00:56:19,649 --> 00:56:21,389 didn't know this was going on. 954 00:56:21,539 --> 00:56:24,479 Adam Curry: You're mistaking the news organizations in the United 955 00:56:24,479 --> 00:56:27,269 States for news organizations? What what do you think? Of 956 00:56:27,269 --> 00:56:31,229 course, they don't care. There's not been no longer 957 00:56:31,470 --> 00:56:34,290 John C Dvorak: care. That's the point. Well, they care about 958 00:56:34,290 --> 00:56:38,700 protecting Biden, or whoever tells them to do what or whoever 959 00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:40,110 tells him whatever they're told to do, 960 00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:42,300 Adam Curry: except for the Wall Street Journal. I will I will 961 00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:47,220 read the headline. If Biden boughs out. How about Michelle 962 00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:47,940 Obama? 963 00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:55,200 John C Dvorak: This is we're bringing up old ideas. And I 964 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,370 want to play that this is a clip from Glenn Beck he had some of 965 00:56:59,370 --> 00:57:04,290 you had mentioned on the network. You knew Rodriguez. 966 00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:08,400 Felix Rodriguez. Yeah, is where he is. And I just want to play 967 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,930 this. It's the JFK story on back. 968 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,690 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, this, this is fantastic. Let me just give 969 00:57:15,690 --> 00:57:21,000 you some background of Felix Rodriguez. So my uncle Don, who 970 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,640 was then his station chief in Vietnam, is very, very fond of 971 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,240 Felix Rodriguez. They talk every Christmas sometimes one or two 972 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,330 times throughout the year, they still chat. And the story then 973 00:57:33,330 --> 00:57:36,390 Don would love to tell stories about how cool Felix was. 974 00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:39,090 Because he would literally show up to the Christmas party, 975 00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:42,360 dressed in his combat fatigues with hand grenades strapped to 976 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,210 his belt, just to have a quick little eggnog and then go back 977 00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:48,150 to the front or whatever the heck he was doing. Which I think 978 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:52,800 is great. That'd be laughing at his muddy boots. But then he was 979 00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:58,380 implicated in Iran Contra, to which I totally believe neither 980 00:57:58,380 --> 00:58:01,200 of them were any part of and this is like some $10 million 981 00:58:01,530 --> 00:58:05,700 payment that supposedly Rodriguez got. And it was an 982 00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,190 interesting story. And it was more about the Bay of Pigs and 983 00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:12,150 stuff on on Beckwith interesting guy and Rodriguez gotta be up 984 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:13,620 near the 90s Now, I think. 985 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:17,940 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's pretty old to him. But he did make a 986 00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:21,030 little comment I want to reflect on I heard this. It was good. 987 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:24,210 Kennedy was different than his brother. He seemed 988 00:58:24,210 --> 00:58:26,130 Unknown: like a decent guy. When we were 989 00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:28,710 working the operation Central America was our team in Costa 990 00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:33,270 Rica, Nicaragua, fruman rates against Cuba. In 6465. Bobby 991 00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:36,180 Kennedy was word liaison between us and the CIA for that 992 00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:39,150 operation. And when the President was assassinated, our 993 00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:41,700 teammate went to see him in Washington, the first toward he 994 00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:45,360 talking, said my brother had two big enemies, the mafia and Fidel 995 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:51,900 Castro. I believe it was the last one who assassinated what 996 00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:55,290 John C Dvorak: so he says he thinks and he put this in so 997 00:58:55,290 --> 00:58:57,840 somebody sent me this of course, singling you know, you think the 998 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,190 mob did it? I didn't. I don't know who did it. Who killed 999 00:59:02,190 --> 00:59:05,520 Kennedy. But the mob is looks like the best bet as far as I'm 1000 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,340 concerned, having heard all these different stories, and I 1001 00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:12,120 refer people to he says it was he thought was the Cubans? I 1002 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,690 don't think so. And I'll tell you why. And I refer to a link 1003 00:59:15,690 --> 00:59:19,590 in the show notes to Spartacus educational XLink of the death 1004 00:59:19,590 --> 00:59:22,680 of witnesses connected to the assassination of John F. 1005 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,780 Kennedy. And it includes a number of people who were who 1006 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,380 this estimations didn't work and they went to the authority 1007 00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:35,520 saying that these mafia guys are trying to move the mob is trying 1008 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,050 to kill me. And it's the mob who does clean up because you know, 1009 00:59:40,050 --> 00:59:43,530 if anyone wants to go watch the movie casino and watch the white 1010 00:59:43,530 --> 00:59:48,360 take a chance segment of that film where they start killing 1011 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,150 guys left and right because there may be, I don't know, a 1012 00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:55,980 witness left over. The Cubans didn't have any, any connection 1013 00:59:55,980 --> 01:00:01,320 to do this. They didn't have any way of killing over 100 people 1014 01:00:01,590 --> 01:00:05,850 after the assassination to shut them up is totally a mob 1015 01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:09,090 operation. The CIA wouldn't do that either. They have, you 1016 01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:12,750 know, they have other ways without murdering, they have 1017 01:00:12,750 --> 01:00:16,410 scruples, dammit, this group was they like to screw him some 1018 01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:19,500 other ways was beside the point. I would take a look at this, 1019 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:25,020 this, this posting and look it over. It's an I think Rodriguez 1020 01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:27,630 is wrong. I think maybe somebody I mean that he may be Miss 1021 01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:32,070 directing because, again, Michael francesi made the point 1022 01:00:32,070 --> 01:00:34,980 that he thinks the CIA is covering up the fact that they 1023 01:00:34,980 --> 01:00:38,160 couldn't stop the assassination. And that's makes sense. That 1024 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,490 makes their big concern. That makes sense. 1025 01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:44,010 Adam Curry: But I still don't know why just just so they 1026 01:00:44,010 --> 01:00:47,640 wouldn't why take a chance? Was that the reason why, yeah, why? 1027 01:00:48,420 --> 01:00:52,020 Why do I kill all these people? Well, because what did they have 1028 01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:52,710 on the mob? 1029 01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:55,530 John C Dvorak: They had? No, these are people that like 1030 01:00:55,530 --> 01:00:58,650 Dorothy Kilgallen, who had done work on what on the Kennedy 1031 01:00:58,650 --> 01:01:02,940 assassination, assassination, maybe have figured out who did 1032 01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:03,270 it. 1033 01:01:03,810 --> 01:01:08,310 Adam Curry: Now, why would the mob do it? What they hated 1034 01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:12,240 John C Dvorak: Kennedy. In fact, if you listen to Rodriguez there 1035 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,480 he says that two people two groups really hated Kennedy. The 1036 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,290 mob was one of them. And the other one was the Cubans. 1037 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,260 Adam Curry: Cubans. I understand I'm just wondering why the mob 1038 01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:23,100 what was it the 1039 01:01:23,339 --> 01:01:25,169 John C Dvorak: candidate? Well, if you look into it, I mean, I 1040 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:29,129 from what I can remember, Kennedy, and not to mention the 1041 01:01:29,129 --> 01:01:33,029 fact that he put Bobby Kennedy in as his as his attorney 1042 01:01:33,029 --> 01:01:38,969 general who went after the mob. Okay, right. Kennedy, 1043 01:01:38,969 --> 01:01:45,269 apparently, or it seems that he made a deal that he reneged on 1044 01:01:45,269 --> 01:01:49,649 or he screwed up somehow or went the Kennedy was having sex with 1045 01:01:49,649 --> 01:01:52,079 one of the big boss's girlfriends. 1046 01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:54,300 Adam Curry: Oh, there you go. Thank you. You just answered the 1047 01:01:54,300 --> 01:02:00,870 question. Nuff said. And the Kennedy Joe Kennedy himself was 1048 01:02:00,870 --> 01:02:06,480 a mobster. He was the bootleg bootlegger, bootlegger. 1049 01:02:08,220 --> 01:02:10,920 John C Dvorak: Yeah. So as Kennedy, that's what a lot of 1050 01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:14,280 you know, Kennedy was the motto, it was an element of the mob 1051 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,780 being the President of the United States, 1052 01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:19,050 Adam Curry: or bring it all around. The reason why we still 1053 01:02:19,050 --> 01:02:23,100 haven't seen the actual Kennedy information, even though it 1054 01:02:23,130 --> 01:02:26,880 legally needs to be released, is because people are afraid of the 1055 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,490 mob killing them. No, 1056 01:02:30,540 --> 01:02:34,590 John C Dvorak: no, the reason is, because it's got information 1057 01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:37,800 in there that indicates that the CIA was aware of the 1058 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,510 assassination plot and could do nothing to stop it. And it's an 1059 01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:48,930 it's an embarrassment to them. Okay. And if you follow this 1060 01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:52,530 timeline to this whole thing, that this is so disrupting this, 1061 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:58,020 this, this assassination by the mob that it took, even though it 1062 01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:01,710 took about seven years, they they created the RICO statute, 1063 01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:06,660 which went into play into 70 and 1970. To take to just wipe the 1064 01:03:06,660 --> 01:03:07,650 mom out, 1065 01:03:07,650 --> 01:03:10,380 Adam Curry: right, right. But you never really wiped them out. 1066 01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:11,340 You never really know. 1067 01:03:11,340 --> 01:03:13,410 John C Dvorak: But it did a bit did a lot of damage. 1068 01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:16,290 Adam Curry: All right, well, that's all to everybody. It's 1069 01:03:16,290 --> 01:03:18,210 not as cool as brushing. No, 1070 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,440 John C Dvorak: I'll get another note. 1071 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,720 Adam Curry: The grassy knoll is a lot more fun. I mean, why are 1072 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,300 you doing no idea why everybody's against why you're 1073 01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:27,210 harshing? My mellow, man, it's not cool. It's not cool. We want 1074 01:03:27,210 --> 01:03:30,450 to George Bush senior to be in charge of the operation. You 1075 01:03:30,450 --> 01:03:37,050 know, that's what we want. It's just it's a it's a downer, to 1076 01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:43,020 downer for conspiracy theorists, your downer man. Meanwhile, the 1077 01:03:43,020 --> 01:03:47,250 absent trial, Epstein trial continues against JPMorgan 1078 01:03:47,250 --> 01:03:52,500 Chase. And in particular, Jamie Dimon that Jamie Dimon 1079 01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:59,730 personally knew that Epstein was paying off. Victims apparently 1080 01:03:59,730 --> 01:04:05,940 victimized on the island. Now, the court will subpoena Larry 1081 01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:11,580 Page who they cannot find. They can't find him at any address. 1082 01:04:11,610 --> 01:04:14,310 Larry Page, Google co founder because he apparently has some 1083 01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:18,120 information. Deutsche Bank just went smart. They said oh, we're 1084 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,150 just gonna pay $75 million to the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. 1085 01:04:21,150 --> 01:04:22,680 We don't want to be a part of this. 1086 01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:26,490 John C Dvorak: They're the best at that. Oh, yeah. 1087 01:04:26,490 --> 01:04:29,520 Adam Curry: Here's the money you have to keep us out of cannabis 1088 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,340 out of the way that's gonna be if that ever really comes to 1089 01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:34,380 trial. It's gonna be fun to watch. But yeah, 1090 01:04:34,860 --> 01:04:35,610 John C Dvorak: never happened. 1091 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,660 Adam Curry: I don't think so either. 1092 01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:38,460 John C Dvorak: I don't know. Larry Page disappeared. 1093 01:04:38,580 --> 01:04:41,010 Adam Curry: Well, they can't find it. 1094 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,530 John C Dvorak: They also want to they can't give us a Pina. Yeah, 1095 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,500 Adam Curry: they want to subpoena Elon too. And so now 1096 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:51,090 the court has to find him. Well, yes, he's at CNBC all day long. 1097 01:04:51,330 --> 01:04:53,760 But if Did you see that what was that all about? 1098 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,910 John C Dvorak: I mean, no, I gotta get a tape of this or I 1099 01:04:56,910 --> 01:04:59,970 can do one of my fabulous Elon Musk. Edit, suck. 1100 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,310 Adam Curry: Well, I have a couple of short clips which are 1101 01:05:02,310 --> 01:05:14,610 short because the guy shot terrible talks like that it is 1102 01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:20,460 it is horrible. He's like he's not. I guess if you just talk 1103 01:05:20,460 --> 01:05:23,490 like this, I'm fairly difficult then you sound intelligent or 1104 01:05:23,490 --> 01:05:27,120 like you know what you're talking about. He's, he does 1105 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,080 know some things. He knows what he's talking about. Budget, 1106 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:31,290 that's 1107 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,220 John C Dvorak: a talk, it's getting worse. It's getting 1108 01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:38,550 worse with some of this. I noticed this was the Ultra Rich. 1109 01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:44,310 Yeah, they're very, very slowly deteriorate in their ability to 1110 01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:45,060 communicate. 1111 01:05:45,930 --> 01:05:48,630 Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. What other examples I've had, 1112 01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:49,020 you 1113 01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:50,910 John C Dvorak: know, when I first noticed this was who was 1114 01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:52,110 with Ted Turner? 1115 01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:55,290 Adam Curry: When they'll be he actually has, he has dementia. 1116 01:05:55,290 --> 01:05:57,210 Now he's got he got well, before he 1117 01:05:57,210 --> 01:06:00,810 John C Dvorak: had dementia, maybe it was, it was fairly, you 1118 01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:03,270 know, he could he could talk they handle himself. And then 1119 01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:06,660 all of a sudden, he started going into this this bit where 1120 01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:08,970 every time he started to speak before he said anything, he 1121 01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:15,180 went, Ah, he made this, this loud, moaning sound, every 1122 01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:18,630 single is be at the beginning of every single sentence. And I'm 1123 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:21,330 thinking, geez, this is weird. I started listening to these other 1124 01:06:21,330 --> 01:06:24,300 guys, and I must is a good example. You're wrong. 1125 01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:26,400 Adam Curry: I think you're wrong. This has nothing to do 1126 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,610 with being rich. It has to do with tainted Adrenochrome was 1127 01:06:29,610 --> 01:06:32,700 clearly something else going on. Here's Elon, 1128 01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:34,380 John C Dvorak: is must be it. 1129 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,700 Unknown: Let's talk a bit about your tweets. Because it comes up 1130 01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:43,500 a lot. Even today, it came up and you know, anticipation of 1131 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:48,600 this. I mean, you do some tweets that seem to be or at least give 1132 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,170 support to some who would call others conspiracy theories. 1133 01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:59,520 Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these 1134 01:06:59,550 --> 01:07:02,490 conspiracy theories have turned 1135 01:07:02,490 --> 01:07:05,010 out to be true. Which ones 1136 01:07:05,460 --> 01:07:07,770 will like the Hunter Biden laptop? 1137 01:07:08,010 --> 01:07:11,400 Adam Curry: That's true. Hunter Biden laptop. Oh, that's true. 1138 01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:14,430 Now let's talk about, you know, other conspiracy theories. Well, 1139 01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:14,850 we're coming 1140 01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:17,400 Unknown: up on an election. I mean, it's a ways away, but it's 1141 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:22,080 going to all start. Yeah, President Trump is allowed back 1142 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,510 on the platform. He hasn't actually come back. Right. But 1143 01:07:24,510 --> 01:07:26,850 one would imagine if and when he does, or there are others who 1144 01:07:26,850 --> 01:07:31,350 will say 2020 election was rigged. Is that something? I 1145 01:07:31,350 --> 01:07:32,790 assume that's not something you believe? 1146 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,790 I? Well, I think the answer there The answer is is nuanced. 1147 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:45,090 Like do I believe Biden one? Yes. I believe he won, you voted 1148 01:07:45,090 --> 01:07:46,320 for I did, actually. 1149 01:07:46,350 --> 01:07:47,190 Do you regret that? 1150 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:57,390 I mean, man, I, I wish we could have just a normal human being 1151 01:07:57,390 --> 01:08:02,070 as President. That's what I want. I think, if we could, you 1152 01:08:02,070 --> 01:08:04,860 know, there's that old saying of like, we're better. We're better 1153 01:08:04,860 --> 01:08:09,360 off being run by by people picked at random from the 1154 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,910 phonebook than the faculty of Harvard. Yeah. I don't know who 1155 01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:17,190 said that. But if someone were very wise, and I would say if we 1156 01:08:17,190 --> 01:08:19,800 could do that for the President, that would be 1157 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,550 official. You're obviously you're not happy with by 1158 01:08:23,580 --> 01:08:25,350 we all just want a normal human being. 1159 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,280 Whatever. Whatever. anymore. What normal me 1160 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,540 know what I mean? Like, you know, just 1161 01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:33,690 you want somebody who's competent. 1162 01:08:34,170 --> 01:08:37,830 Adam Curry: I mean, this is the way he speaks. Like Sam Backman 1163 01:08:37,830 --> 01:08:42,960 fried. Another noon, geez, uh, people are nuts. 1164 01:08:44,939 --> 01:08:47,099 John C Dvorak: It has to be an explanation for it, because he 1165 01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,500 Adam Curry: doesn't know what he's talking about. Here. Listen 1166 01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,030 to this. Now this this one piss me off. 1167 01:08:52,019 --> 01:08:55,319 Unknown: So. So my opinion would be that there was some there was 1168 01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,079 some small amount of fraud, but it was not enough to change the 1169 01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:58,229 and 1170 01:08:58,230 --> 01:09:00,180 by the way, it might have been either way. I mean, you know, 1171 01:09:00,210 --> 01:09:02,490 yeah, there's probably a little bit of again, it's gonna be 1172 01:09:02,490 --> 01:09:05,130 you're gonna let people say that though on the on Twitter, and 1173 01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:06,840 then you're gonna hope that they're corrected and they will 1174 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,980 be corrected. They will be 1175 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:08,880 Oh, yeah. Harper said 1176 01:09:08,939 --> 01:09:17,699 Adam Curry: no. 100% Okay. 100% 100% Oh, yeah. 100% Geez, 1177 01:09:18,029 --> 01:09:19,949 it was really, this whole interview. 1178 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,170 John C Dvorak: When I'm hearing that everyone's saying it. It's 1179 01:09:22,170 --> 01:09:24,810 a real priority. I identified 1180 01:09:24,809 --> 01:09:29,609 Adam Curry: it's been it's not 100% You know, be honest. 9998 1181 01:09:29,939 --> 01:09:33,749 What is the percentage of things 100%? No, correct. Even the 1182 01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:36,989 number of climate scientists who believe that this is all they 1183 01:09:36,989 --> 01:09:41,189 couldn't get 100 They couldn't get 100 they got 97 but yet 1184 01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:46,859 everything else is 100 100% 100%. When some we need 1185 01:09:46,859 --> 01:09:47,279 to 1186 01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:50,040 John C Dvorak: wonder how that got into the into the public 1187 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:50,550 domain. 1188 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:58,620 Adam Curry: Kara Swisher. 100 Prasanna sign. I was just one of 1189 01:09:58,620 --> 01:10:01,110 those things tick tock tick. probably everything is tick 1190 01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:06,030 tock. What do you think tick tock. Now let's stick with the 1191 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:11,730 primetime takedowns of our politicians. There was a good 1192 01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:14,850 version of this, which I should have got should have gotten 1193 01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:16,980 retrieved this clip of what Biden said because they cut it 1194 01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:18,450 off in this ABC report, 1195 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:21,060 Unknown: President Biden now calling white supremacy the most 1196 01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:25,110 dangerous terrorist threat the country. Here's ABCs Elizabeth 1197 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:30,870 shozy. From 2011 to 2021, DHS says racially motivated 1198 01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:34,440 extremists accounted for the biggest share of domestic terror 1199 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:37,890 incidents this weekend. President Biden with a stark 1200 01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:38,460 warning 1201 01:10:38,490 --> 01:10:41,670 as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white 1202 01:10:41,670 --> 01:10:42,390 supremacy. 1203 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,990 In his speech to graduates of Howard University, the president 1204 01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:50,250 decrying sinister forces seeking to undo progress toward racial 1205 01:10:50,250 --> 01:10:51,180 equality. 1206 01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:54,690 I thought when I graduated, we could defeat a 1207 01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:57,690 Adam Curry: he actually said in the piece I don't have he said, 1208 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,440 you know, the most dangerous thing in our country is white 1209 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,050 supremacy. And then he follows up by saying, and I'm not just 1210 01:11:04,050 --> 01:11:07,650 saying that because you're a black college. Okay, thank you, 1211 01:11:07,650 --> 01:11:07,980 bro. 1212 01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:11,790 Unknown: But it never goes away certainly hides under the rocks. 1213 01:11:12,090 --> 01:11:14,370 Silence is complicity. 1214 01:11:16,230 --> 01:11:19,440 And tonight amid protests calling for stronger gun safety 1215 01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:23,160 laws, the president renewing his call for an assault weapons ban. 1216 01:11:23,460 --> 01:11:27,450 In the USA Today on bed Biden pointing to the more than 650 1217 01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:31,650 mass shootings and 40,000 gun related deaths since the buffalo 1218 01:11:31,650 --> 01:11:35,970 massacre, telling lawmakers for God's sake, do something. 1219 01:11:36,179 --> 01:11:38,609 Adam Curry: This was my favorite. So it's now we have 1220 01:11:38,609 --> 01:11:43,559 like, six 650 mass shootings. It's just we're just we're just 1221 01:11:43,559 --> 01:11:48,059 shooting. It's a wild west here. If crazy people outside of 1222 01:11:48,059 --> 01:11:50,939 America think we are just shooting everything 1223 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,070 John C Dvorak: to the store that haven't 1224 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,340 Adam Curry: shot getting shot. That's exactly the same thing 1225 01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:59,730 where people in Fredericksburg think that the the two and a 1226 01:11:59,730 --> 01:12:02,790 half 1000 Haitians are going to be dumped off of the bus on Main 1227 01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:06,990 Street patients of all ages of all patients. And then and then 1228 01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:10,920 we get Obama listen to this whopper of a lie. You tell me? 1229 01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:13,980 What's the whopper of the lie in this. We 1230 01:12:13,980 --> 01:12:21,060 Unknown: are unique among advanced, developed nations and 1231 01:12:21,060 --> 01:12:27,420 tolerating on a routine basis. Gun violence in the form of 1232 01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:34,200 shootings, mass shootings, suicides in Australia. He had 1233 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,560 one mass shooting 50 years ago and they said up, we're not 1234 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,980 doing that anymore. That is normally how you would expect a 1235 01:12:40,980 --> 01:12:45,180 society respond when your children are at risk. Why is it 1236 01:12:45,180 --> 01:12:49,650 so hard for us? Well, I think somehow luck, and there are a 1237 01:12:49,650 --> 01:12:53,700 lot of historical reasons for this. Gun ownership in this 1238 01:12:53,700 --> 01:13:00,540 country became a ideological issue and a partisan issue in 1239 01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:02,160 ways that it shouldn't be what was 1240 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,740 Adam Curry: the whopper of a lie in this statement that he made 1241 01:13:04,740 --> 01:13:04,860 here? 1242 01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:06,960 John C Dvorak: I thought the whole thing was a lie. Yeah, but 1243 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,080 there 1244 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,030 Adam Curry: was a whopper there's a real Whopper in there 1245 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:09,720 that this 1246 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:13,830 John C Dvorak: gun ownership is a partisan now. Only Republicans 1247 01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:15,330 know that it Nope. Here we go. 1248 01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:20,340 Unknown: on a routine basis. Gun violence in the form of 1249 01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:27,090 shootings, mass shootings, suicides in Australia. You had 1250 01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:29,970 one mass shooting 50 years ago and they said up? 1251 01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:33,450 Adam Curry: That was not 50 years ago. It was in my lifetime 1252 01:13:33,450 --> 01:13:41,040 douche. It was April 28 1996. Port Arthur was at Port Arthur. 1253 01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:47,970 Yes, it's only 27 years ago not 50 they had they've had they had 1254 01:13:47,970 --> 01:13:53,460 guns 50 years ago when Australia. Remember okay, why 1255 01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:55,080 does Why does He say 50? 1256 01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:59,340 John C Dvorak: I don't know the price on purpose do it? No, he 1257 01:13:59,370 --> 01:14:01,560 just doesn't know what he's talking about. No. Well, there's 1258 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,130 that. 1259 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,430 Adam Curry: But you know if if Michelle Stark 1260 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,390 John C Dvorak: douche change the Second Amendment if you don't 1261 01:14:09,390 --> 01:14:13,620 like it, we had that. I mean, if everyone if you're all veterans 1262 01:14:13,620 --> 01:14:16,680 all in on this change the Second Amendment you gotta made 1263 01:14:18,150 --> 01:14:21,270 Adam Curry: maybe he comes from the Stargate, you know, so 50 1264 01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:26,130 years different for him. But without without a doubt, the top 1265 01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:33,210 the top politician we have who's a senator was asking a series of 1266 01:14:33,210 --> 01:14:37,950 questions. This is a one minute 32nd clip. This is on the 1267 01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:40,230 Banking Committee. And as we know, you know, there's a lot of 1268 01:14:40,230 --> 01:14:47,610 problems with how how JP Morgan Chase, basically made $2.8 1269 01:14:47,610 --> 01:14:52,740 billion, while the FDIC shelled out 15 billion to bail out. 1270 01:14:55,020 --> 01:14:56,070 Republic bank 1271 01:14:56,580 --> 01:14:59,970 John C Dvorak: to Republic bank, public or Silicon Valley boasts 1272 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,850 Adam Curry: Oh no republic first Silicon Valley was a little 1273 01:15:02,850 --> 01:15:05,490 different though Silicon Valley was first and Republic. Right. 1274 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,940 But But I think the the money was made the big money was made. 1275 01:15:08,970 --> 01:15:12,420 I mean, look, right now there's a trillion look, there's a 1276 01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:16,050 trillion dollars of unsecured deposits in JPMorgan Chase, they 1277 01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:20,760 are now too big to fail to whale to tail to do anything. So he's 1278 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,240 sitting there beautiful. And here's one of your Senators 1279 01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:29,910 questioning the banking, the bankers about these actions that 1280 01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:33,120 are taking place. This is Senator Fetterman. 1281 01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:37,650 Unknown: Is it staggering? Is it a staggering response? A 1282 01:15:37,650 --> 01:15:38,220 response? And 1283 01:15:38,220 --> 01:15:41,310 Adam Curry: by the way, this is not edited this one all one go? 1284 01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:42,930 Is it staggering? Is 1285 01:15:42,930 --> 01:15:46,980 Unknown: it a staggering response responsibility that the 1286 01:15:46,980 --> 01:15:49,860 head of a bank could literally could literally crash our 1287 01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:54,060 economy? It's astonishing. That's like, if you have I mean, 1288 01:15:54,060 --> 01:15:59,640 like, and they also realize is that, that, that now they have 1289 01:15:59,670 --> 01:16:04,560 it's in the guaranteed a guaranteed way to be saved by an 1290 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,490 American by no matter what number if I have, you know, so 1291 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,450 it's, you know, isn't it appropriate that the those kinds 1292 01:16:12,450 --> 01:16:18,210 of this kind of control should be more stricter? To prevent 1293 01:16:18,210 --> 01:16:21,330 this kind of thing? Should we? Or should we just go on and 1294 01:16:21,330 --> 01:16:24,510 start bailing and sailing whoever bank regardless of how 1295 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:28,800 how there's their conduct is? 1296 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,970 Give me an example. The Republicans want to give a work 1297 01:16:38,970 --> 01:16:45,060 requirement for SNAP for a hungry family has to have these 1298 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,960 this kind of penalties are they some kinds of word working? 1299 01:16:49,260 --> 01:16:52,080 Requires? Shouldn't you have a working requirement after each 1300 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,680 sale your bank believes that your bank because they see we 1301 01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:01,620 were pretty preoccupied when then snap requirements for works 1302 01:17:01,620 --> 01:17:06,270 for hungry people, but not about protecting the tax the tax 1303 01:17:06,270 --> 01:17:11,220 papers, you know, that will fail no matter whatever does about 1304 01:17:11,220 --> 01:17:12,390 the bank to crash it? 1305 01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:22,980 Adam Curry: Literally no one knows what to say. They're all 1306 01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:27,840 sitting there looking at the Emperor completely naked. And no 1307 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,380 one just stands up and says, Excuse me, this is not a 1308 01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:32,550 coherent question. 1309 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,030 John C Dvorak: Is Is there a question mark within this 1310 01:17:36,030 --> 01:17:37,230 structure? No 1311 01:17:37,290 --> 01:17:42,900 Adam Curry: sailing and bailing? I mean, this is how we have 1312 01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:48,780 comes to such an interesting place in history. Where, where 1313 01:17:48,780 --> 01:17:53,940 we just accept this? unedited? That's exactly there was no 1314 01:17:53,940 --> 01:17:56,670 question. He was a question. But it wasn't a question that he 1315 01:17:56,670 --> 01:18:00,570 brought in SNAP and all kinds of other things. And then he just 1316 01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:04,920 give it back to the chair, chair take over. I know one. Banker 1317 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,300 just look at each other like whatever. This is a problem. 1318 01:18:11,130 --> 01:18:13,830 John C Dvorak: I've got going to do this source a series. I got a 1319 01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:18,330 classic Ted Cruz one here, oh, boy. This is where it cruises 1320 01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:21,990 going on somebody and trying to get him to answer he's doing the 1321 01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:22,530 same thing. He 1322 01:18:22,980 --> 01:18:26,280 Adam Curry: lost all my respect crews. Respect for this guy 1323 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,900 anymore. And well, 1324 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,270 John C Dvorak: but this is the situation when you have the 1325 01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:33,660 Democrats running one thing and the Republicans, the Republicans 1326 01:18:33,660 --> 01:18:35,880 do the same thing when they're in charge. But this is the 1327 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,040 Senate. So as the Democrats in here we go, 1328 01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:40,200 Unknown: No, we're not going to give you the billion dollars. 1329 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,630 They said you have no authority. You're not the president. The 1330 01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:46,680 president said I said call him I said I'm telling you, you're not 1331 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,820 getting the billion dollars 1332 01:18:48,750 --> 01:18:52,950 John C Dvorak: for a second. This is a question of a guy who 1333 01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:59,550 is going to be placed in some position. Who is who busted the 1334 01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:03,540 Biden's early on but then he refuses to say anything bad 1335 01:19:03,540 --> 01:19:09,210 about them. And it has to do with Joe Biden's intimidating 1336 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,120 Ukraine back in the day in front of the Council on Foreign 1337 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,000 Relations saying Right, right, right, right. We remember the 1338 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,120 story and so he's gonna say, the guy says, Well, you know, 1339 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,870 they've never there's never been any wrongdoing. And so proves 1340 01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:25,140 goes off on him with this story about Biden, the we're not gonna 1341 01:19:25,140 --> 01:19:27,750 give you the billion dollars. They said you have no authority. 1342 01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:31,230 You're not the president. The president said, I said call him 1343 01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:33,990 I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars. 1344 01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:34,080 I 1345 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,640 Unknown: said, you're not getting the billion dollars. I'm 1346 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,280 going to be leaving here. And I think it was about six hours. I 1347 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,070 looked at them and said, I'm leaving here in six hours. If 1348 01:19:41,070 --> 01:19:45,210 the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. 1349 01:19:45,870 --> 01:19:50,490 Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. Let me ask you something. 1350 01:19:50,490 --> 01:19:54,390 Do you think Joe Biden holding a billion dollars hostage to force 1351 01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:57,600 the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor that is 1352 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,500 investigating the corrupt oligarchs. arquus paying his son 1353 01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:05,790 a million dollars a year did getting that prosecutor fired 1354 01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:07,230 benefit that oligarch. 1355 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,540 Thank you Senator Cruz. Senator Van, are 1356 01:20:09,540 --> 01:20:11,640 you going to allow him to answer the question, Madam Chairman, I 1357 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,800 am not going to allow him to answer the question. And why are 1358 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,260 you covering the Vice President? Do you not want to answer that 1359 01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:19,350 question? He said that the Vice President 1360 01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:25,080 is unfortunate for you, Senator Cruz, to put in position that 1361 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,680 are uncomfortable. The nominees to be our ambassador exists. 1362 01:20:30,150 --> 01:20:32,160 Adam Curry: The ambassador nominees 1363 01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:40,410 man Oh, man, I came 1364 01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,950 John C Dvorak: now. We're making them comfortable. This is not a 1365 01:20:43,950 --> 01:20:45,780 candy question. We want to hear. 1366 01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:49,020 Adam Curry: By the way we were wrong about the about the debt 1367 01:20:49,020 --> 01:20:51,840 ceiling No, not wrong, in general about how it will 1368 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,140 probably get solved. But it's not a continuing resolution. 1369 01:20:56,340 --> 01:21:01,470 That continuing resolution is not not the is not the mechanism 1370 01:21:01,470 --> 01:21:05,040 that can stop this back and forth and shutting down the 1371 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:14,580 economy. Most recently, and 21 I think it was 2014, maybe 2015. 1372 01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:18,930 We had the Bipartisan Budget Act before that, and 2011 the Budget 1373 01:21:18,930 --> 01:21:22,530 Control Act, and then you can this is how they get little bits 1374 01:21:22,530 --> 01:21:26,670 and pieces in or the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act. That 1375 01:21:26,670 --> 01:21:31,080 was 2008. That was a good one. There's all kinds of stuff that 1376 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,750 can be done, but it's not a continuing resolution. People 1377 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:36,390 did want to point that out and I want to make sure everyone hears 1378 01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:41,790 that we admit when we're wrong. We'll see. Now this is not a 1379 01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:44,130 continuing resolution is a different mechanism. 1380 01:21:44,490 --> 01:21:49,230 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it's going to be the point real the 1381 01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:52,680 long term point is we're not going into default. 1382 01:21:52,710 --> 01:21:55,170 Adam Curry: Oh man, I sure hope so. It'd be so much fun. 1383 01:21:56,250 --> 01:21:58,050 John C Dvorak: Probably wouldn't be going to show what is it 1384 01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,880 Adam Curry: when you shut down the government that's not the 1385 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:00,900 same as a default right 1386 01:22:00,900 --> 01:22:03,330 John C Dvorak: the shutdown we don't know the government that's 1387 01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:04,290 different right? That's 1388 01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:06,120 Adam Curry: when we don't have a car that's when you have the 1389 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,630 continuing resolution is on the government shutdown. But this is 1390 01:22:10,050 --> 01:22:14,370 the day I think it's I think it's really fun to watch and 1391 01:22:14,370 --> 01:22:16,740 help you Oh, well, I want to get my paycheck. 1392 01:22:17,550 --> 01:22:20,340 John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely be something to experience but 1393 01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:21,600 you wouldn't be good for the show. 1394 01:22:22,620 --> 01:22:26,130 Adam Curry: No, none of it's good for the show ever. But this 1395 01:22:26,130 --> 01:22:29,550 is good for the show. I finally got a clip on the Chevron 1396 01:22:29,550 --> 01:22:30,330 deference. 1397 01:22:32,910 --> 01:22:35,460 John C Dvorak: No, okay. Good. Yeah, we need an update on that 1398 01:22:35,460 --> 01:22:35,730 because 1399 01:22:35,730 --> 01:22:38,310 Adam Curry: this kind of explains why are they going 1400 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:43,710 after Clarence Thomas and ultimately after the you know, 1401 01:22:43,710 --> 01:22:46,770 the Supreme Court is a legitimate is no good. We gotta 1402 01:22:46,770 --> 01:22:51,210 get rid of me just too many. Conservatives on the good is no 1403 01:22:51,210 --> 01:22:56,460 good. So CBS actually did a little story on the Chevron 1404 01:22:56,460 --> 01:23:00,330 deference what it means and how it relates to well, then, of 1405 01:23:00,330 --> 01:23:02,850 course, they would never explicitly say it but how it 1406 01:23:02,850 --> 01:23:07,290 relates to this takedown of Supreme Court justices 1407 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,080 Unknown: Supreme Court has announced it will take up a case 1408 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,800 next term that could potentially strip federal agencies of some 1409 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:18,600 of their powers. The case Loper enterprises vs. rimando seeks to 1410 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,620 overturn a nearly 40 year old legal precedent known as Chevron 1411 01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:26,760 deference. It directs courts to defer to federal agencies when 1412 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,420 interpreting unclear laws. The Chevron deference has been 1413 01:23:30,420 --> 01:23:32,940 targeted by conservatives and they believe it gives too much 1414 01:23:32,940 --> 01:23:36,090 power to agencies and the executive branch. For more on 1415 01:23:36,090 --> 01:23:38,430 this, let's bring in Jeff Braven. He's correspondent for 1416 01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:41,130 The Wall Street Journal, I should say, Jess, there's a two 1417 01:23:41,130 --> 01:23:45,360 step that was established, as I understand it, in by the chevron 1418 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:50,040 case, that's at the center of this back in 1984. I think what 1419 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,780 is that two step process? 1420 01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:55,980 Well, it's very simple. It seems like almost almost too obvious. 1421 01:23:56,130 --> 01:23:59,520 The the opinion a unanimous opinion by Justice John Paul 1422 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,750 Stevens says first, you see if this question has been quite 1423 01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:08,460 specifically answered by the statute, is it completely clear 1424 01:24:08,460 --> 01:24:12,960 what Congress wants to happen? If the answer is yes, well, then 1425 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,570 courts have to enforce that they don't have any discretion, and 1426 01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:19,500 the agency has to obey it as well. But what if the statute is 1427 01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:23,580 ambiguous? And of course, a lot of laws you said before is a bit 1428 01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:27,540 ambiguous if it is ambiguous. This decision said the way 1429 01:24:27,540 --> 01:24:30,570 courts would behave as they should defer to a plausible 1430 01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:34,410 interpretation by the agency. So that's that's the idea. The 1431 01:24:34,410 --> 01:24:37,620 agency is the expert in this area, Congress has assigned it 1432 01:24:37,620 --> 01:24:40,680 at the job of carrying out its function. So the court should 1433 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,730 defer unless they're making a very implausible application of 1434 01:24:44,730 --> 01:24:45,210 the law. 1435 01:24:45,450 --> 01:24:49,410 Adam Curry: So if this Chevron deference were overturned, then 1436 01:24:49,530 --> 01:24:54,330 a lot more cases for the agencies would go to the courts, 1437 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,200 federal courts, and they would really have to scrutinize what 1438 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,520 was being said and it could eat And I mean, the real decision 1439 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,060 would have to be made. And I think that probably a lot of 1440 01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:09,900 these laws are very ambiguous as written because first of all, 1441 01:25:10,050 --> 01:25:13,680 Congress people stupid, they don't know everything. And but, 1442 01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:14,580 yes, 1443 01:25:15,090 --> 01:25:17,250 John C Dvorak: well, first of all, most of these laws that 1444 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,360 they're discussing, are not Congress writing anything. These 1445 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,320 are administrative laws. Well, these are the laws written by 1446 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,440 the boneheads that run these agencies and they they're not 1447 01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:30,960 congressmen, they're not lawyers, and they throw these 1448 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,930 laws together. And those are the ambiguous laws they're talking 1449 01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:34,290 about. 1450 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,030 Adam Curry: No, they're not because you'll hear it in this 1451 01:25:36,030 --> 01:25:40,050 next clip. They're talking about laws that were made in Congress, 1452 01:25:40,230 --> 01:25:46,140 but then the agencies interpret that into rules. And this next 1453 01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:48,840 clip, okay, is right is right up your alley. It's about to get 1454 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:49,170 near. 1455 01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:52,140 John C Dvorak: Yes, but the initial law that's in Congress 1456 01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:56,730 is is ambiguous, different, differing, that's where 1457 01:25:56,730 --> 01:26:00,630 deference Yes, deferring to the agency, we're writing a law that 1458 01:26:00,630 --> 01:26:04,410 gives you the power to do this, that and the other. So they give 1459 01:26:04,410 --> 01:26:07,710 the EPA all kinds of power, and then they cut them loose, and 1460 01:26:07,710 --> 01:26:09,060 they don't do shit after that. 1461 01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:11,790 Adam Curry: Exactly. So that's the ambiguity. And this next 1462 01:26:11,790 --> 01:26:14,790 shorter clip is about the EPA, which you know something about 1463 01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:15,960 so you might be able to comment, 1464 01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:19,140 Unknown: why are people paying so much attention to this issue, 1465 01:26:19,170 --> 01:26:22,080 given the current makeup of the court? Well, 1466 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,890 this is one of the many other shoes to drop after we saw the 1467 01:26:25,890 --> 01:26:30,390 court overturn Roe vs. Wade. That obviously was number one on 1468 01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:33,270 the conservative agenda. But there are many, many other 1469 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,830 errors that conservative legal thinkers believe the Supreme 1470 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:42,240 Court has made over the past decades. And this turned out to 1471 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,640 be one of them. Now, at the time, it actually was a victory 1472 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,800 for conservatives. There were some environmentalists who 1473 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:52,800 challenged a rule by the Reagan era EPA led by Justice Gorsuch, 1474 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,490 his mother at the time and Gorsuch Burford. And the 1475 01:26:56,490 --> 01:27:00,210 environmentalists said the agency had not followed the law 1476 01:27:00,210 --> 01:27:03,990 properly. The Supreme Court said agency gets discretion if the 1477 01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:07,830 law is ambiguous. But more recently, it's been an industry 1478 01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:11,490 that has been unhappy with the way that agencies are exercising 1479 01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:14,610 their power, especially the EPA. And they're the ones who want to 1480 01:27:14,610 --> 01:27:17,520 basically turn this power over to federal courts where they 1481 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,710 think they'll have a more sympathetic here than with 1482 01:27:19,710 --> 01:27:22,050 regulators who might have devoted their lives to say 1483 01:27:22,050 --> 01:27:25,260 pollution control and they believe are overstepping their 1484 01:27:25,260 --> 01:27:26,880 power to achieve those ends. 1485 01:27:28,650 --> 01:27:31,590 Adam Curry: I didn't know that. Gosh, it's his mom ran the EPA 1486 01:27:32,130 --> 01:27:35,670 John C Dvorak: says bunch of this is a whole system is rife. 1487 01:27:36,210 --> 01:27:37,860 With nepotism, it's 1488 01:27:37,860 --> 01:27:38,730 Unknown: crazy. 1489 01:27:39,059 --> 01:27:41,099 Adam Curry: And people don't know this. This is not taught in 1490 01:27:41,099 --> 01:27:45,059 civics, you will have no idea how this works. You remember, 1491 01:27:45,089 --> 01:27:49,799 remember that I'm a bill. I'm a bill, I go go through stuff. And 1492 01:27:49,799 --> 01:27:52,589 then I become law from a bill and then we send it off to the 1493 01:27:52,589 --> 01:27:54,569 agencies and they do whatever they want. 1494 01:27:55,259 --> 01:27:57,959 John C Dvorak: Like the IRS. This is the administrative state 1495 01:27:57,959 --> 01:28:01,919 that we live in, they can't do anything about it is impossible. 1496 01:28:01,919 --> 01:28:06,449 The whole world or our entire government is run as an 1497 01:28:06,449 --> 01:28:10,559 administrative state is not run the way we think it's run. And 1498 01:28:10,559 --> 01:28:14,789 that administrative state is the only reason it works. It there's 1499 01:28:14,789 --> 01:28:18,239 nothing they can do. They can overturn this stuff. They can't 1500 01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:22,439 shake. They can't do what we like to think which is well the 1501 01:28:22,469 --> 01:28:27,359 legislators supposed to make the law, not some bureaucrat. No, 1502 01:28:27,689 --> 01:28:29,879 that's not the way it works. It's not the way it's going to 1503 01:28:29,879 --> 01:28:32,309 work they're not going to let it go to that it's not going to 1504 01:28:32,309 --> 01:28:34,619 happen. I think we're all living in a dream world. 1505 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,540 Adam Curry: And on that happy note I'd like to thank you for 1506 01:28:36,540 --> 01:28:39,510 your courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in 1507 01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:42,120 the Chevron deference which ain't gonna happen ladies and 1508 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,490 gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John 1509 01:28:50,010 --> 01:28:52,440 John C Dvorak: Mooney you in the morning you Mr. Adam curry in 1510 01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:55,380 the morning your ships in the sea and the ships in the sea 1511 01:28:55,380 --> 01:28:58,230 their feet near the subs in the water the dames knights out 1512 01:28:58,230 --> 01:28:58,560 there 1513 01:28:58,590 --> 01:29:00,420 Adam Curry: and in the morning to the trolls in the tall room 1514 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:01,200 right now. 1515 01:29:06,690 --> 01:29:12,510 At 3318 33 Is your count for today for Thursday. 1833 Trolls 1516 01:29:12,510 --> 01:29:15,090 checking us out live you can join them. 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So 1535 01:30:21,330 --> 01:30:24,450 someone don't tweet to me the other day or two did whatever 1536 01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:27,900 Hey, a lot of us over here think we're being shadow banned on the 1537 01:30:27,900 --> 01:30:30,030 fediverse No shit, Sherlock. 1538 01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:33,690 John C Dvorak: You know, Shadow banned. You're banned. 1539 01:30:33,780 --> 01:30:36,450 Adam Curry: Banned and block difference? Yeah, of course. And 1540 01:30:36,450 --> 01:30:39,240 that is because everyone's in the very beginning and it still 1541 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,170 happens. People peach free speech people from the no agenda 1542 01:30:43,170 --> 01:30:47,160 social accounts, trying to hit on lib tardes and then you get 1543 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,210 blocked. So yeah, that's wallow in it, you're soaking it in 1544 01:30:51,210 --> 01:30:54,750 match. It's up to you. We have about 10,000 people there that 1545 01:30:54,750 --> 01:30:57,870 can enjoy everything freely or start your own Mastodon server 1546 01:30:57,870 --> 01:31:00,150 and you can follow us no problem. Be a part of the 1547 01:31:00,150 --> 01:31:04,890 conversation. All of this given to you just as value for value. 1548 01:31:05,250 --> 01:31:09,060 That's how we roll. That's how we make everything work over 15 1549 01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:11,700 years. If you get value from the show, we'd like you to do 1550 01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:15,480 something back you could put together chat GPT of all over 1551 01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:20,280 information. We have search engines being at.io Yeah, we 1552 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,990 have people doing art without well it's thanks some of the 1553 01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:25,680 artists because the artwork that has done every single show, no 1554 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,340 agenda art generator.com another website that has value for value 1555 01:31:29,340 --> 01:31:31,440 and it's being supplied to us without us having to do 1556 01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:38,340 anything. And we need to thank the artist for episode 1555 We 1557 01:31:38,340 --> 01:31:42,870 titled that A M A B, which of course means assigned male at 1558 01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:49,200 birth it's interesting it says A M A D did I literally do that? 1559 01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:55,050 Was that wrong? That's kind of funny. I titled A M A D instead 1560 01:31:55,050 --> 01:31:55,560 of b 1561 01:31:56,790 --> 01:32:01,260 John C Dvorak: Well then you made a mistake made no sense at 1562 01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:02,070 all saying 1563 01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:07,260 Adam Curry: assigned male at death Okay, that's interesting. 1564 01:32:07,710 --> 01:32:13,140 Anyway, the album art which was I think a big surprise went to 1565 01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:17,910 the award went to comic strip blogger who did a very sweet 1566 01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:22,380 little Mother's Day cartoon which you thought would be aI 1567 01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:26,460 but I call Ai no, this isn't this is this is his style this 1568 01:32:26,460 --> 01:32:27,270 is actually common 1569 01:32:27,930 --> 01:32:30,750 John C Dvorak: style I've seen his style for years this isn't 1570 01:32:30,750 --> 01:32:31,080 it? 1571 01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:34,320 Adam Curry: I know he didn't say it was I mean he would be the 1572 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,400 first to say it wasn't well we'll get we'll get an honest 1573 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,520 answer from him. I think we can we get an honest answer from it 1574 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:42,900 we get honest answer from him 1575 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,270 John C Dvorak: that you know what the hands look at the hands 1576 01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:49,680 you got too many fingers typical typical AI because the AI can't 1577 01:32:50,070 --> 01:32:52,710 figure out how long humans have five fingers Oh 1578 01:32:52,740 --> 01:32:56,310 Adam Curry: you're right six You're right 1234 You may be 1579 01:32:56,310 --> 01:33:03,720 right huh well was cute anyway, it was a bunch of very pretty 1580 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,110 picture. Yeah, it was nice and we had what else do we have to 1581 01:33:07,140 --> 01:33:08,310 choose from? We had 1582 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:13,290 John C Dvorak: a lot of a lot of flowers the one was one that we 1583 01:33:13,290 --> 01:33:16,770 do our favorite one literally was the Mother's Day by tantan 1584 01:33:16,770 --> 01:33:21,030 deal with the goat head but a dead goat had in in a bunch of 1585 01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:24,930 with a bunch of flowers is not probably not the best message to 1586 01:33:24,930 --> 01:33:25,470 be sending 1587 01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:28,200 Adam Curry: but we don't we don't the goat had its eyes open 1588 01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:29,610 so we don't know if the goat was dead it 1589 01:33:29,610 --> 01:33:32,250 John C Dvorak: doesn't mean a dead goat died open eyes even 1590 01:33:32,250 --> 01:33:32,910 creepier 1591 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,320 Adam Curry: It's such a pretty piece and we really we were 1592 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,960 ready to pull the trigger on it and we just it's too too 1593 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:40,590 gruesome 1594 01:33:41,250 --> 01:33:44,040 John C Dvorak: just it was all it was missing was a pool of 1595 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:44,580 blood 1596 01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:48,090 Adam Curry: and then we had to Sir dude named Parker prolly who 1597 01:33:48,090 --> 01:33:52,260 had a like a daisy with mom with the it looked like a butthole 1598 01:33:52,260 --> 01:33:57,060 and there's something wrong with that. Parker Polly yeah the one 1599 01:33:57,060 --> 01:33:58,530 with a daisy flower but 1600 01:33:58,530 --> 01:33:59,670 John C Dvorak: hold on Oh 1601 01:33:59,670 --> 01:34:02,130 Adam Curry: for mom was yeah it was it was wrong or something 1602 01:34:02,130 --> 01:34:04,950 wrong with the center of the flower and we had no there was 1603 01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:10,020 one you liked with the one now the one you liked with some baby 1604 01:34:10,050 --> 01:34:12,780 John C Dvorak: there was one I knew did your response to it was 1605 01:34:12,930 --> 01:34:17,970 too small probably your response to everything you don't like 1606 01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,990 remember which one I don't want I really liked was to go to head 1607 01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:28,530 Adam Curry: we should have just done that man that go No. I got 1608 01:34:28,530 --> 01:34:30,660 overruled I was ready for goat I was ready for the 1609 01:34:30,660 --> 01:34:33,090 John C Dvorak: guy who liked Have you liked him comic strip 1610 01:34:33,090 --> 01:34:34,440 blogger piece who well you 1611 01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:37,770 Adam Curry: pacified me you we Canvas for moms. Let's do 1612 01:34:37,770 --> 01:34:40,680 something nice for moms and moms. Okay, okay. 1613 01:34:41,610 --> 01:34:44,490 John C Dvorak: guy wasn't even in the conversation. All right. 1614 01:34:44,490 --> 01:34:45,420 Well, congratulations, 1615 01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:47,250 Adam Curry: comic strip blogger. Thank you very much for 1616 01:34:47,250 --> 01:34:51,330 supplying us with the artwork for 1555 that is highly 1617 01:34:51,330 --> 01:34:53,670 appreciated. And of course all the work that the artists do 1618 01:34:53,670 --> 01:34:58,650 we'd love you guys You're so good. When we when we criticize 1619 01:34:58,650 --> 01:35:01,560 is because we love That's all and we 1620 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,570 John C Dvorak: wanted to CISM equals love 1621 01:35:05,790 --> 01:35:09,150 Adam Curry: exactly criticizing is loving as the most sincere 1622 01:35:09,150 --> 01:35:12,120 form of loving you can get a new thing I just made up 1623 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,250 John C Dvorak: are you gonna wear that 1624 01:35:19,289 --> 01:35:22,019 Adam Curry: I think Tina has actually said that to me. Oh, 1625 01:35:22,019 --> 01:35:25,799 I'm sure she has no she'll, she'll look at me just just 1626 01:35:25,829 --> 01:35:28,379 don't talk anyone just looks at me like what's wrong with this 1627 01:35:28,379 --> 01:35:32,849 shirt? She doesn't have to say it anymore. And we'd like to 1628 01:35:32,849 --> 01:35:35,009 thank our executive and Associate Executive producers in 1629 01:35:35,009 --> 01:35:37,799 this first donation segment as they bring us the fuel that 1630 01:35:37,799 --> 01:35:40,529 keeps the ship running we appreciate that we kick it off 1631 01:35:40,529 --> 01:35:44,279 with Anonymous who checks in from West Hartford Connecticut 1632 01:35:44,759 --> 01:35:53,009 with magic numbers $1,333.33 and says the following Forgive me 1633 01:35:53,009 --> 01:35:59,099 pod father for I have deuced it is this No wonder people find 1634 01:35:59,099 --> 01:36:02,609 our show confusing. I like what you're doing but I don't 1635 01:36:02,609 --> 01:36:05,939 understand all the words people are using. Forgiving pod father 1636 01:36:05,939 --> 01:36:08,159 for I have deuced it has been over three years of listening 1637 01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:13,019 without a donation I humbly request a D douchey. You've been 1638 01:36:13,019 --> 01:36:18,239 de deuced shout out to my brother Jack for smacking me in 1639 01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:22,349 the mouth. In the beginning of the scan Demick and finally 1640 01:36:22,349 --> 01:36:25,559 calling me out as a douchebag a few months ago, a partial 1641 01:36:25,559 --> 01:36:30,329 switcheroo Okay, please credit Jack with the incremental 333 1642 01:36:30,329 --> 01:36:35,579 dot 33 above my knighthood from this donation Okay, so we add we 1643 01:36:35,609 --> 01:36:36,899 how do we do that? Do we make 1644 01:36:36,929 --> 01:36:39,659 John C Dvorak: a separate another name on there? Okay, 1645 01:36:39,719 --> 01:36:41,849 anonymous plus we'll keep reading 1646 01:36:41,850 --> 01:36:43,470 Adam Curry: this for a second while I do that although what 1647 01:36:43,470 --> 01:36:48,090 No, it's Jack is Jack he wants Jack is just jack a Jack Jack. 1648 01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,480 Alright, so I'll put jack in there. All right. 333 1649 01:36:51,509 --> 01:36:53,279 John C Dvorak: was the thank you guys for everything you do and 1650 01:36:53,279 --> 01:36:57,359 deconstruct the media. No agenda show was instrumental. Okay, 1651 01:36:57,359 --> 01:36:58,349 blah, blah, blah. 1652 01:36:59,580 --> 01:37:02,250 Adam Curry: Yes, blah, blah, blah. Okay. 1653 01:37:02,940 --> 01:37:05,340 John C Dvorak: I submitted my fake Vax card to attend to 1654 01:37:05,340 --> 01:37:07,680 senior year at Middlebury College good for you. I 1655 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,770 appreciate that. One of the most liberal schools in the country 1656 01:37:10,770 --> 01:37:16,320 where they have tampons in the men's bathrooms was the alt 1657 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,200 right conspiracy theories theorist of the campus for 1658 01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:23,550 saying things particularly about COVID that are in arguably 1659 01:37:23,550 --> 01:37:26,190 accepted as the truth today. 1660 01:37:27,330 --> 01:37:28,410 Adam Curry: Yes, indeed. 1661 01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:29,940 John C Dvorak: Who can tell you from please Knight 1662 01:37:29,940 --> 01:37:32,340 Adam Curry: me sir dirty Damn the garbage man consumer of raw 1663 01:37:32,340 --> 01:37:36,960 milk denier of science and ally of the unvaccinated please also 1664 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,980 call my buddy Cory out as a douchebag I would like to 1665 01:37:40,980 --> 01:37:43,950 request jobs karma for my family's rebar installation 1666 01:37:43,950 --> 01:37:47,190 company as well as shape shifting Jews and resist we must 1667 01:37:47,370 --> 01:37:55,470 Unknown: resist we much we must and we will much about that be 1668 01:37:55,470 --> 01:37:56,220 committed 1669 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,620 John C Dvorak: shape shifting jobs, 1670 01:38:10,890 --> 01:38:17,430 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. Pharma 1671 01:38:19,980 --> 01:38:22,020 John C Dvorak: is an interesting one it coming up this Michel. 1672 01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:26,460 Michel Ponsford who you know and Bernie Texas I know you went to 1673 01:38:26,460 --> 01:38:31,530 Bernie but he says Adam, my DENTAL PATIENT And friend has 1674 01:38:31,530 --> 01:38:36,120 transformed my way of thinking and opened my eyes to reality. 1675 01:38:37,230 --> 01:38:43,020 So I'm sure you went into the dental office and and did what 1676 01:38:43,020 --> 01:38:43,440 you went 1677 01:38:44,970 --> 01:38:53,310 Unknown: through nursing school roles. That's right. Good well, 1678 01:38:53,310 --> 01:38:53,520 we'll 1679 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,610 John C Dvorak: get okay. 1680 01:38:57,390 --> 01:38:59,310 Adam Curry: That's how we That's how we roll. Thank 1681 01:38:59,310 --> 01:39:01,800 John C Dvorak: you to Adam and John for speaking the truth I 1682 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,460 hit I shall henceforth be known as Sir Dr. Captain Maverick on 1683 01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:06,450 the show. That's Maverick 1684 01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:10,710 Adam Curry: that's Maverick that's. That's my buddy. Thank 1685 01:39:10,710 --> 01:39:15,030 you Maverick. I'm very nice. recliner back, John slowly. 1686 01:39:15,450 --> 01:39:18,090 John C Dvorak: It takes forever but you're getting there. 1687 01:39:19,470 --> 01:39:25,410 Adam Curry: We'll see at the roundtable while back. Sir Adam 1688 01:39:25,410 --> 01:39:28,890 and Sir Josh from Birmingham, Alabama $400. In the morning 1689 01:39:28,890 --> 01:39:32,010 Jensen Sunday's episode y'all spoke about the feasibility of 1690 01:39:32,010 --> 01:39:35,160 running AI models on personal hardware. It is accurate that 1691 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,620 one can run many models including the good ones on any 1692 01:39:37,620 --> 01:39:41,700 modern personal gaming machine with a video card such as a 4090 1693 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,580 It's even possible to develop and lightly train new models 1694 01:39:44,580 --> 01:39:48,360 with reason within a reasonable timeframe. As background we are 1695 01:39:48,420 --> 01:39:51,330 we're the development team behind projects like truth 1696 01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:56,190 social inside.com and shipped now this is I'm serious dudes 1697 01:39:56,190 --> 01:40:00,240 here. Shipped Yeah, we are concentrating heavily on In the 1698 01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:05,070 AI Gold Rush will we hit gold rush we are all in on that and 1699 01:40:05,070 --> 01:40:08,100 can confirm Adam is correct regarding local execution of 1700 01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:11,250 these models. And then he has a whole bunch of stuff that I can 1701 01:40:11,250 --> 01:40:14,760 look at and says if anyone in the no agenda community needs an 1702 01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:18,990 AI LLM help with their business, we'd love to help you win. 1703 01:40:19,380 --> 01:40:23,640 Additionally, we'll donate 10% of gross from any no agenda 1704 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:28,050 community derived project back to the show, check us out at DBA 1705 01:40:28,050 --> 01:40:30,990 DBA dba.com. Now that's kind of a 1706 01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:35,190 John C Dvorak: is that DBA DBA dba.com That's the one and 1707 01:40:35,190 --> 01:40:40,050 Adam Curry: only remember it's DBA DBA dba.com We're going to 1708 01:40:40,050 --> 01:40:43,890 have some jobs karma to continue creating jobs for great dudes 1709 01:40:43,890 --> 01:40:47,400 named Ben thank you sir Adam the bearded night and Josh black 1710 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:48,300 night in a band 1711 01:40:48,330 --> 01:40:51,810 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs 1712 01:40:59,010 --> 01:41:02,490 John C Dvorak: here's another note that's too long. This was 1713 01:41:02,490 --> 01:41:07,080 from Sir Phil of the Bluegrass in Louisville. And that would be 1714 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,650 Kentucky I believe. And he came in with the world's longest note 1715 01:41:10,650 --> 01:41:17,970 for today at 348 67 ITM he needs he needs these these jingles 1716 01:41:17,970 --> 01:41:22,110 Brennan alleged to be part of a crime which is a great jobs jobs 1717 01:41:22,110 --> 01:41:26,610 jobs, which is jobs karma. And I don't know what this is. whoosah 1718 01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,090 I gotta I gotta walk Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers 1719 01:41:30,090 --> 01:41:32,610 out there. I'm currently hosting all five of our family in town 1720 01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:35,310 mother's for the afternoon a drink and food and yard games, 1721 01:41:35,310 --> 01:41:39,870 no screens, so I will listen later. Oh, not even listening. 1722 01:41:40,170 --> 01:41:43,950 The bi weekly deconstruction is more valuable than ever Sorry 1723 01:41:43,950 --> 01:41:48,180 for the long note I don't write in often see boots on the ground 1724 01:41:48,180 --> 01:41:52,710 note at bottom of email now. It's not on here. So we have it 1725 01:41:52,710 --> 01:41:55,260 in if any of you homeschool is out there listening and form 1726 01:41:55,260 --> 01:41:59,370 your kiddos that they make a very nice living going into the 1727 01:41:59,370 --> 01:42:02,460 trade work of some sort as most skilled tradesmen. I know our 1728 01:42:02,460 --> 01:42:04,740 seven year older and are retiring there are a handful of 1729 01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:08,430 guys like my dad used to always say this. I don't understand 1730 01:42:08,430 --> 01:42:10,350 these kids go out and become a mechanic. 1731 01:42:10,770 --> 01:42:13,140 Adam Curry: Do you know what the top job is that people are 1732 01:42:13,140 --> 01:42:16,680 schooling for right now in the Netherlands. But Carpenter, 1733 01:42:18,060 --> 01:42:20,820 carpenter everyone because carpenters are making like half 1734 01:42:20,820 --> 01:42:21,420 a million. 1735 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:24,720 John C Dvorak: There are a handful of guys like me around 1736 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,080 they're looking down on the barrel at 60 or 650 or 60 and 1737 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,770 need an exit strategy. They just need to retire someone to hand 1738 01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:35,160 off our businesses and clientele so they can be trusted to 1739 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,720 perform good work. I hope at least one of my human resources 1740 01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:45,150 takes over for me. Anyway, these Yes, people should learn how to 1741 01:42:45,150 --> 01:42:48,720 trade it's not about welding. Isn't this a winner building 1742 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:49,710 Adam Curry: as a big winner? 1743 01:42:49,740 --> 01:42:53,370 John C Dvorak: I can well yeah, super winner. Yeah. Anyways, I 1744 01:42:53,370 --> 01:42:56,580 have to donate additional nice takes me whatever the status is 1745 01:42:56,580 --> 01:43:01,800 next. You have to tell us I'll have the mutton okay. Yeah, I 1746 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:02,970 mean, I can't read it. 1747 01:43:03,630 --> 01:43:05,910 Adam Curry: But I didn't notice that we have that elsewhere. But 1748 01:43:05,940 --> 01:43:11,700 you know this to become a what does he say? He was he has a say 1749 01:43:11,700 --> 01:43:14,430 he was skilled tradesmen? So but if you want to be a carpenter or 1750 01:43:14,430 --> 01:43:17,430 a welder, I mean can't you get into people's and he needs us to 1751 01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:20,250 retire he needs to hit he needs to keep a piece of the action 1752 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,610 and hand it over to some an apprentice apprenticeship. 1753 01:43:23,610 --> 01:43:26,010 That's what it used to be called. Remember those? Yeah, 1754 01:43:26,010 --> 01:43:26,160 they 1755 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,050 John C Dvorak: still do those but it's rare. 1756 01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:29,910 Adam Curry: And how long would it take to become a good 1757 01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:32,940 carpenter? Five years couple a couple of years I 1758 01:43:32,940 --> 01:43:34,830 John C Dvorak: don't think it take that long couple of years. 1759 01:43:35,010 --> 01:43:36,780 Adam Curry: And I'm think welding I mean, welding you can 1760 01:43:36,780 --> 01:43:39,060 learn in a couple years to be really good at it. 1761 01:43:39,060 --> 01:43:40,650 John C Dvorak: Well, you can learn it pretty quickly, but 1762 01:43:40,650 --> 01:43:43,770 getting good at it as Rob, because I can weld. 1763 01:43:44,580 --> 01:43:47,940 Adam Curry: I can. I can weld too. Yeah. Can you Healy arc? 1764 01:43:48,300 --> 01:43:52,350 Yes. That's how I was taught with the arcing. And then along 1765 01:43:52,350 --> 01:43:55,890 came the co2 stuff that was easy. Like, anyone could do 1766 01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:59,280 that. But you know, you put that electrode in and that's the cool 1767 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,200 stuff. All right. Here's your jingles man. People are 1768 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,960 Unknown: innocent until well alleged to be involved in some 1769 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:04,680 type of criminal activity. 1770 01:44:06,330 --> 01:44:11,550 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. For jobs. 1771 01:44:15,540 --> 01:44:20,430 Adam Curry: All right, then we have scroll down here. Oops. 1772 01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:21,600 Interesting. 1773 01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:26,070 John C Dvorak: Another log, no Kelly Conway. This donation 1774 01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:29,190 Adam Curry: makes me a dame damy Kelly damy Kelly dame of the 1775 01:44:29,190 --> 01:44:32,550 longest islands. I'd like a dirty martini and some expensive 1776 01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:35,400 blue cheese at the round table. We got that set up for you, 1777 01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:37,650 Adam, thank you for the excellent break down the last 1778 01:44:37,650 --> 01:44:40,110 few shows of how big pharma really seems to be the root 1779 01:44:40,110 --> 01:44:44,760 cause of many of the issues happening in our country between 1780 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,910 mass shootings, trans children, loneliness, terrible mental and 1781 01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:50,580 physical health, mainstream media control by pharma 1782 01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:54,180 advertising and so much more. I'm in the middle of reading RFK 1783 01:44:54,180 --> 01:44:57,120 is the real Anthony Fauci book and wow, let me tell you what's 1784 01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,600 worth the read. Wow. I have read it. The amount of bullcrap this 1785 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,660 man has gotten away with, along with all the government agencies 1786 01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:06,990 associated in Big Pharma seems to relate to Nazi Germany crap. 1787 01:45:07,290 --> 01:45:10,080 I highly recommend this book to all your listeners people do not 1788 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,620 forget what they did and lied to us during the so called COVID 19 1789 01:45:13,620 --> 01:45:16,350 pandemic, these people should be held accountable to the fullest 1790 01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:20,070 extent of the law, which we know they won't be she says also a 1791 01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:22,710 few shows ago you mentioned the mobster who connected the JFK 1792 01:45:22,710 --> 01:45:25,800 assassination to the mob. Not sure if you saw the Irishman 1793 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,010 movie by Martin Scorsese. In that film, he makes that 1794 01:45:29,010 --> 01:45:33,540 connection. Well, that's interesting, John, that, you 1795 01:45:33,540 --> 01:45:33,990 know, I 1796 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:38,100 John C Dvorak: really I love Scorsese films. Yeah, I couldn't 1797 01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:42,270 watch that movie. It was dreadful. Really? Well, they for 1798 01:45:42,270 --> 01:45:50,730 one thing they kept a diary on aging De Niro. watchable 1799 01:45:50,730 --> 01:45:52,860 Adam Curry: that was kind of weird that movie that way. Well, 1800 01:45:52,860 --> 01:45:55,560 that was that's probably what threw you off. scene. 1801 01:45:55,650 --> 01:45:58,080 John C Dvorak: The whole thing was bad at poorly paced. It was 1802 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,240 too long. So Okay. 1803 01:46:01,020 --> 01:46:04,830 Adam Curry: Well, thank you very much, Kelly. And we will see you 1804 01:46:05,190 --> 01:46:09,810 at the roundtable later on. Fo shizzle with a dry dirty martini 1805 01:46:09,810 --> 01:46:12,450 and expensive blue cheese but not the blue cheese in the 1806 01:46:12,450 --> 01:46:15,030 olives. That's That's disgusting. Do you need regular 1807 01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:19,710 olives in your in your mochi? There's some Roquefort girl not 1808 01:46:19,710 --> 01:46:20,490 in the Martini. 1809 01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:27,270 John C Dvorak: Brian Jones and can be Indiana in the morning 1810 01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:31,080 guys. Second time donor first time we asked for a D tuition 1811 01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,810 but it must have gotten lost in the mail. Let's do it now that 1812 01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:40,620 you've been D deuced. It's the first time I've donated 1813 01:46:40,620 --> 01:46:43,260 executive producer levels I've been seeing a lot of threes 1814 01:46:43,260 --> 01:46:46,680 lately. In fact, my amazing daughter Kayla turns three on 1815 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,170 May 19. 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I don't understand it all. But here you go. 1859 01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:11,130 Unknown: You've got karma. 1860 01:50:13,710 --> 01:50:17,190 John C Dvorak: And we have no Associate Executive Producer. 1861 01:50:17,250 --> 01:50:20,250 Adam Curry: Oh, that is very rare that that happens. 1862 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:21,540 Interesting. 1863 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,750 John C Dvorak: Yeah, usually you get more of those. Yeah. 1864 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,360 Adam Curry: Interesting. Well, we appreciate all of our 1865 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,900 executive producers who checked in today. Thank you very much. 1866 01:50:31,530 --> 01:50:37,230 You automatically do that this over 730 executive and Associate 1867 01:50:37,230 --> 01:50:41,790 Executive Producers listed in the IMDB database. That's pretty 1868 01:50:41,790 --> 01:50:47,100 cool. And there are shows Yes, for our show, yes. overstep I 1869 01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:51,570 think it's 736 or some number like that. 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And unlike 1875 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,690 the phonies in Hollywood, have anyone ever questioned you will 1876 01:51:09,690 --> 01:51:12,120 be happy about and let them know that you were indeed an 1877 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:16,620 executive producer of the no agenda Show episode 1556 To find 1878 01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:22,710 out how to become an exec or an associate exec go here.org/in A 1879 01:51:22,710 --> 01:51:25,710 and thank you again for supporting the best podcast in 1880 01:51:25,740 --> 01:51:28,050 the universe. Our formula 1881 01:51:28,050 --> 01:51:31,980 Unknown: is this we go out for people in the mouth 1882 01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:40,440 squirrel 1883 01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:55,770 Adam Curry: Bye. So DeSantis pretty much did everything that 1884 01:51:55,800 --> 01:52:00,780 I think a president should do. I have a real hard time with this 1885 01:52:00,780 --> 01:52:03,510 guy. You know, he's got a big Wall Street money behind him. 1886 01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:07,320 Don't trust him. But what he did in Florida, probably a spoke to 1887 01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:12,270 him. Well, he kind of comes from where he wasn't he a Jag in the 1888 01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:13,320 in Guantanamo. 1889 01:52:13,890 --> 01:52:16,650 John C Dvorak: He was a lawyer. He was in Guantanamo. Gitmo, 1890 01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:17,250 Gitmo, he 1891 01:52:17,310 --> 01:52:21,480 Adam Curry: was a lawyer. Yeah, probably a spook. But the the 1892 01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:24,630 bill that he signed, and I'll let him ramble for his two 1893 01:52:24,630 --> 01:52:27,510 minutes here is pretty much everything that we've been 1894 01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:31,020 talking about when it comes to the trans Maoist conversion of 1895 01:52:31,020 --> 01:52:32,010 the United States, 1896 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:35,310 Unknown: you have a movement amongst I would say rogue 1897 01:52:35,310 --> 01:52:39,330 elements of the medical establishment, to do things that 1898 01:52:39,420 --> 01:52:42,270 is basically the mutilation of minors. I mean, they're trying 1899 01:52:42,270 --> 01:52:47,160 to do sex change operations on minors, giving them things like 1900 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:51,750 puberty blockers and doing things that are irreversible to 1901 01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:56,550 them. And that is not based on science. That is not based on 1902 01:52:56,550 --> 01:53:00,120 evidence. In fact, you have had countries that have tried to do 1903 01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,120 this in Europe, and they recognize this was very harmful. 1904 01:53:03,330 --> 01:53:04,410 And so now they don't 1905 01:53:04,410 --> 01:53:06,660 Adam Curry: do it, please, this is exactly what we've been 1906 01:53:06,660 --> 01:53:08,850 saying this phenomenon is like Sweden, 1907 01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:11,610 John C Dvorak: staff is listening to us and I probably 1908 01:53:11,610 --> 01:53:16,020 Unknown: yet here in the United States, you have a very, I would 1909 01:53:16,020 --> 01:53:21,000 say ideologically charged, small group of folks within medicine 1910 01:53:21,090 --> 01:53:25,980 that are really pushing these types of procedures on minors. 1911 01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,490 We think that that is wrong. In Florida last year, we took 1912 01:53:29,490 --> 01:53:34,770 action so that no physician that does those procedures are going 1913 01:53:34,770 --> 01:53:37,620 to be able to keep their medical license. So that's gone if you 1914 01:53:37,620 --> 01:53:38,880 do this, which is great. 1915 01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:45,210 Adam Curry: Which is just a pause for a second. This puts a 1916 01:53:45,210 --> 01:53:48,180 lot of doctors between a rock and a hard place. On the one 1917 01:53:48,180 --> 01:53:50,730 hand, you have the American Psychology Association and the 1918 01:53:50,730 --> 01:53:54,120 American pediatrics Association, the American Association of 1919 01:53:54,420 --> 01:53:57,150 Pediatrics has all these different lobbying groups and 1920 01:53:57,150 --> 01:54:00,600 political groups really, but they write their own laws, they 1921 01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:05,910 write the the procedures, they have licensed people their 1922 01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:09,480 responsibility through collective insurance for these 1923 01:54:09,480 --> 01:54:14,370 doctors and therapists mainly. Now, you can't go left you can't 1924 01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:18,300 go right. You know, so something's got to give in the 1925 01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:19,380 medical community. 1926 01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:28,590 Unknown: But when we do do the SBU to do this, we'll permanent 1927 01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:33,990 outlaw the mutilation of minors. It will outlaw the surgical 1928 01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:37,890 procedures and experimental puberty blockers for minors. It 1929 01:54:37,890 --> 01:54:41,310 will also require any adults receiving the surgeries to be 1930 01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:46,230 informed about the irreversible nature and about the dangers of 1931 01:54:46,230 --> 01:54:50,220 the procedures. It will give Florida courts temporary 1932 01:54:50,250 --> 01:54:53,700 jurisdiction to intervene and halt procedures for out of state 1933 01:54:53,700 --> 01:54:59,160 children. You have actually some states in this country that want 1934 01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:03,450 to be a haven And for these types of procedures, and even 1935 01:55:03,450 --> 01:55:07,560 welcome minors without their parents consent, and to some of 1936 01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,770 their jurisdiction, we're obviously doing the opposite 1937 01:55:10,770 --> 01:55:14,190 here. And I think this is this provision is important. This is 1938 01:55:14,190 --> 01:55:18,510 going to create a way to recover damages for injury or death 1939 01:55:18,510 --> 01:55:21,720 resulting from mutilating surgeries or these experimental 1940 01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,360 puberty blockers that are given to a minor. Because what 1941 01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,990 happens, they go through this, then they get older, and this is 1942 01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:32,250 a huge problem. They should be able to sue the physician who 1943 01:55:32,250 --> 01:55:35,580 hurt them, and they're now going to be able to with this law, 1944 01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:38,370 Adam Curry: that's pretty far reaching. 1945 01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,250 John C Dvorak: Like the suing part. Yeah, he should have 1946 01:55:41,250 --> 01:55:42,780 changed the word to shoot. 1947 01:55:44,730 --> 01:55:47,250 Adam Curry: Wow, man, I've gotten I got so many boots on 1948 01:55:47,250 --> 01:55:49,320 the ground about the testosterone that you were 1949 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:53,520 talking about the roid rage. One of one of our producers listen 1950 01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,610 to this. She writes in she had she had to experience of men 1951 01:55:56,610 --> 01:56:01,320 with severe testosterone fueled mental health issues. And the 1952 01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:05,370 second experience thing is one I'll share. Her ex fiance he was 1953 01:56:05,370 --> 01:56:10,770 48 years old bloodwork showed less than 300 micrograms per 1954 01:56:11,220 --> 01:56:16,950 deciliter total of tea guests is low. So we started TRT injection 1955 01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:21,630 Istat low while he started a TRT injections of mix of short and 1956 01:56:21,630 --> 01:56:25,500 long acting tea kind of like taking Adderall and Vyvanse. I 1957 01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:28,080 didn't think much about it, but over the following three months, 1958 01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,980 he became erratic and extremely emotional. I was confused by his 1959 01:56:31,980 --> 01:56:35,280 change in personality when it gets bad and start to seriously 1960 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,340 consider breaking up with him. His first three months follow a 1961 01:56:38,340 --> 01:56:45,180 blood work show total tea was greater than 2400 Ug DL, I guess 1962 01:56:45,180 --> 01:56:52,530 1200 is the max and free tea was greater than 400. He jokingly 1963 01:56:52,530 --> 01:56:57,600 said the doctor was surprised he hadn't killed his fiancee. His 1964 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,480 physician drastically lowered the dose the dose but he had one 1965 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,360 last mega dose injected the day he went to get his lab results. 1966 01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,270 Memories of my first friend came flooding back I looked up the 1967 01:57:06,270 --> 01:57:10,410 dose response time for the blender was using eight days. So 1968 01:57:10,410 --> 01:57:14,160 what happened is due to my love for him, I decided to wait it 1969 01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,710 out exactly eight days later though he snapped it was 1970 01:57:16,710 --> 01:57:19,320 horrifying to witness the love of my life become totally 1971 01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:23,880 psychotic. He was wondering 240 pounds of muscle knocked me 1972 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:27,090 unconscious. I woke up being straddled and him whispering in 1973 01:57:27,090 --> 01:57:30,840 my air this in my ear. This is what it feels like to die. I 1974 01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:34,200 escaped by gouging his eyes with my fingers and fleeing in my car 1975 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:40,320 as he chased me holy crap this testosterone is not to be taken 1976 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:41,610 lightly people Oh, 1977 01:57:41,610 --> 01:57:46,980 John C Dvorak: I did this borderline dangerous. The it's 1978 01:57:46,980 --> 01:57:49,980 very deathbed the shots or the you know, there's other ways 1979 01:57:50,490 --> 01:57:56,310 just rub on stuff the can't remember than Androgel Yes, it's 1980 01:57:56,310 --> 01:58:01,080 safer. It's too dangerous for me to imagine. That's a men who are 1981 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:05,490 used to Metastar now take girls now take a girl and give her 1982 01:58:05,490 --> 01:58:07,860 this stuff and see how far you get. You're gonna end up with 1983 01:58:07,860 --> 01:58:11,430 somebody, you know, walking around with a rifle shooting 1984 01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:15,210 poor little innocent nine year olds. Yeah, exactly what 1985 01:58:15,210 --> 01:58:15,690 happened. 1986 01:58:16,530 --> 01:58:18,900 Adam Curry: Finland is once again reporting they're taking 1987 01:58:18,900 --> 01:58:22,380 another look at youth gender medicine. Not a good idea. 1988 01:58:22,410 --> 01:58:24,870 They're looking at longer term studies now which have not been 1989 01:58:24,870 --> 01:58:28,230 done here. But all that comes down to a couple of things that 1990 01:58:28,230 --> 01:58:32,430 are not addressed by Governor DeSantis social media, the 1991 01:58:32,430 --> 01:58:36,990 pressures of social media and an out I'll pull into this the 1992 01:58:36,990 --> 01:58:43,020 swimsuit Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition, where we have 1993 01:58:43,020 --> 01:58:46,950 Martha Stewart now as an 81 year old on the cover of this four 1994 01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:50,730 covers. The odd one of the covers of the Sports Illustrated 1995 01:58:50,730 --> 01:58:54,750 Swimsuit Swimsuit Issue. disgustingly photoshopped Make 1996 01:58:54,750 --> 01:58:59,010 no mistake don't say oh, if I looked like her No, no, she 1997 01:58:59,010 --> 01:59:03,810 doesn't look like that. I know her I've been up close. And the 1998 01:59:03,810 --> 01:59:09,540 donor mentioned the bo in the elevator Ah, but they Photoshop 1999 01:59:09,540 --> 01:59:13,140 everything. There is no truth in anything. You see, he could have 2000 01:59:13,140 --> 01:59:14,100 John C Dvorak: done a better job. 2001 01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:17,010 Adam Curry: I don't think this is the best they could do. And 2002 01:59:17,010 --> 01:59:20,730 then they have another trans, a trans woman on the on one of the 2003 01:59:20,730 --> 01:59:26,010 covers, and this is going to stop Americans are starting to 2004 01:59:26,010 --> 01:59:30,300 figure it out. Have you seen that now target is is the next 2005 01:59:30,330 --> 01:59:31,410 literal target. 2006 01:59:31,830 --> 01:59:34,500 John C Dvorak: I have complained about target and these and the 2007 01:59:34,500 --> 01:59:39,000 way they have gone for well nuts not on this show as much as DH 2008 01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:43,710 employed by been complaining about them losing it. They have 2009 01:59:43,740 --> 01:59:48,900 they're promoting fat women and trans women Derrick dirt 2010 01:59:48,900 --> 01:59:52,950 completely lost the plot. They used to it used to be a store 2011 01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:57,300 that had stuff that was well designed, it was pretty they had 2012 01:59:57,570 --> 02:00:00,510 professional bigshot designers come in and they were We used to 2013 02:00:00,510 --> 02:00:03,990 promote it that way. Now it's just a, it's just it's 2014 02:00:03,990 --> 02:00:06,120 borderline to $1. Store. 2015 02:00:07,259 --> 02:00:09,479 Adam Curry: Yeah, with all the rainbow stuff. Now we're seeing 2016 02:00:09,479 --> 02:00:12,779 parents go in and just say, Well, is there a straight 2017 02:00:12,779 --> 02:00:17,249 section for my children that that look is? Can I just get 2018 02:00:17,249 --> 02:00:20,729 something and doesn't have weird stuff and Adidas or as we say in 2019 02:00:20,759 --> 02:00:27,239 the old country, Adidas, pride 2023, women's swimsuits. These 2020 02:00:27,239 --> 02:00:33,449 are being modeled by men. With package it's a little it's a 2021 02:00:33,479 --> 02:00:37,499 it's a women's swimsuit. And they have men modeling it. And I 2022 02:00:37,499 --> 02:00:38,219 mean, what's this? 2023 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:40,440 John C Dvorak: What's wrong? This is what happens when you 2024 02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,400 get these people, certain people in the executive level and they 2025 02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,890 get in there, you can't get them out and they start making these 2026 02:00:46,890 --> 02:00:50,340 decisions somehow. I don't know how it's accepted by everyone. I 2027 02:00:50,340 --> 02:00:54,210 guess they get shamed into it. But they have bad people in 2028 02:00:54,210 --> 02:00:56,790 management and these companies are all going to fail. 2029 02:00:57,570 --> 02:01:02,340 Adam Curry: Yes, Corps has now. Sophia Colucci, Chief Marketing 2030 02:01:02,340 --> 02:01:05,100 Officer for Molson Coors beverage. I don't know if you've 2031 02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:08,010 seen this. It was it actually was made in March. But 2032 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:12,360 apparently they decided to let it go. They're now criticizing 2033 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:15,660 their own brand for having used women in bathing. So 2034 02:01:15,660 --> 02:01:17,880 John C Dvorak: that was no, that was Miller. Like, that's Miller 2035 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:18,270 Lite. 2036 02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:21,180 Adam Curry: Yeah. But that's yeah. But that's Miller Lite is 2037 02:01:21,180 --> 02:01:23,550 a multi branch. It's funny. 2038 02:01:23,610 --> 02:01:26,910 John C Dvorak: I have a thought on this. But so look, I don't 2039 02:01:26,910 --> 02:01:30,180 believe that I believe this is a real ad that they did back in 2040 02:01:30,180 --> 02:01:35,280 the day, like, March before March. I think it was InBev that 2041 02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:36,600 Riri introduced. 2042 02:01:38,490 --> 02:01:40,920 Adam Curry: Oh, so now they're eating each other? That's cool. 2043 02:01:40,980 --> 02:01:41,880 I like that. 2044 02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:44,700 John C Dvorak: Because I don't see that would be idiotic, for 2045 02:01:44,700 --> 02:01:48,090 any executive to make the decision to do that to bring 2046 02:01:48,090 --> 02:01:51,300 that ad back out. Because it was already a failure. And it just 2047 02:01:51,390 --> 02:01:54,510 was swept under the rug. Nobody said anything about it. And now 2048 02:01:54,510 --> 02:01:57,120 all of a sudden it reappears. Yeah, 2049 02:01:57,150 --> 02:02:01,530 Adam Curry: good point. Good point. Yep. I'm with you. Then 2050 02:02:01,530 --> 02:02:08,340 we have Texas Democrat. Sean Terry. She's a Democrat from 2051 02:02:08,340 --> 02:02:15,450 Houston. And I'm going to play this soundbite in Texas, they 2052 02:02:15,660 --> 02:02:21,810 passed the bill that forbids any type of medical transition, I'm 2053 02:02:21,810 --> 02:02:26,250 sorry, gender affirming care for minors, which is a very 2054 02:02:26,250 --> 02:02:32,520 reasonable, and there's lots of things if all right, I'm gonna 2055 02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:35,580 get her that I want you to hear she bet she's going to be 2056 02:02:35,580 --> 02:02:38,190 censured by her own party, I want you to hear because all 2057 02:02:38,190 --> 02:02:41,910 political at the end of the day, this is one side saying 2058 02:02:42,540 --> 02:02:46,320 Democrats are are killing children and the other side 2059 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:51,150 saying Republicans are anti trans and transphobes forget all 2060 02:02:51,150 --> 02:02:57,420 of the politics. And what she says here, very, very nervous, I 2061 02:02:57,420 --> 02:03:00,720 think was spot on very nervous when she stood up and spoke in 2062 02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:01,470 in the senate 2063 02:03:01,559 --> 02:03:07,019 Unknown: members. It is out of respect, caring, in friendship. 2064 02:03:07,619 --> 02:03:10,439 For every member of this body that I would like to share my 2065 02:03:10,439 --> 02:03:14,999 position on this very complex issue. I'm coming from a place 2066 02:03:14,999 --> 02:03:20,099 of love and compassion, and can only hope and pray that it is 2067 02:03:20,099 --> 02:03:24,269 received in that same spirit. While we can have debates on the 2068 02:03:24,269 --> 02:03:28,979 best policy approach, I do not believe that any of us in this 2069 02:03:28,979 --> 02:03:33,689 body actually wants to cause harm to children who are 2070 02:03:33,689 --> 02:03:39,059 suffering from depression, dysphoria, or any other mental 2071 02:03:39,059 --> 02:03:44,879 health issues. Over the past two years, I have extensively 2072 02:03:44,879 --> 02:03:48,539 researched this issue and painstakingly reviewed the 2073 02:03:48,539 --> 02:03:52,979 scientific data in this country and around the globe. As a woman 2074 02:03:52,979 --> 02:04:00,449 of color, I know what it's like to feel unseen, unheard and 2075 02:04:00,449 --> 02:04:07,649 devalued. I have recently been treated that way, by some in 2076 02:04:07,649 --> 02:04:12,059 this process in coming to this vote. After listening to the 2077 02:04:12,059 --> 02:04:17,489 debate today, I absolutely believe we should raise the age 2078 02:04:17,489 --> 02:04:23,849 to 18 for children to receive GnRH analogs, cross sex hormones 2079 02:04:24,029 --> 02:04:27,329 and to undergo potential irreversible body altering 2080 02:04:27,329 --> 02:04:32,789 surgeries. Members in this nation. Most all adults have 2081 02:04:32,789 --> 02:04:36,839 been united in at least one basic premise that children 2082 02:04:37,079 --> 02:04:41,009 deserve protections, special protections and exceptional 2083 02:04:41,009 --> 02:04:42,089 treatment under the law. 2084 02:04:42,510 --> 02:04:46,140 Adam Curry: Thank you very much. Thank you Representative from 2085 02:04:46,140 --> 02:04:51,150 Houston. Very good. But maybe it's time that somewhat and it's 2086 02:04:51,150 --> 02:04:53,490 going to be very difficult because as we know, we're the 2087 02:04:53,490 --> 02:04:56,400 only country in America that won't allow that allows 2088 02:04:56,400 --> 02:05:00,120 pharmaceutical advertisements direct to consumer, America UK 2089 02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:06,630 and New Zealand I guess. But the report is now out that here it 2090 02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:12,480 is us depression rates reach all time highs. Percentage of US 2091 02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:15,750 adults is from Gallup, who have reported having been diagnosed 2092 02:05:15,750 --> 02:05:17,670 with depression at some point in their lifetime has reached 2093 02:05:17,670 --> 02:05:24,000 29% 10% higher than 2015. At what point do we call out the 2094 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:28,950 medical community and say it's not working? It's just not 2095 02:05:28,950 --> 02:05:33,120 working. And then you take with that the report in The Wall 2096 02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:36,660 Street Journal, young Americans are dying at alarming rates. 2097 02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:42,780 Children teens suicide all kinds of horrible things. The pharma 2098 02:05:43,050 --> 02:05:50,130 game is not working. It's not and that I keep reading these 2099 02:05:50,130 --> 02:05:55,530 reports that that prescription medicines are the shortage of 2100 02:05:55,530 --> 02:05:57,750 everything. Have you heard Have you heard of this? I don't even 2101 02:05:57,750 --> 02:05:58,590 know if that's true. 2102 02:05:58,620 --> 02:06:01,140 John C Dvorak: It feels hard to yes comes and goes. I wonder if 2103 02:06:01,140 --> 02:06:03,570 it's true myself. Nor is it just to get people 2104 02:06:03,930 --> 02:06:07,710 Adam Curry: on more stuff. But we really need to reevaluate 2105 02:06:07,710 --> 02:06:11,220 we're doing and social media is a big problem. And luckily we're 2106 02:06:11,220 --> 02:06:14,910 seeing some of the Zoomers just giving up on it. But now I think 2107 02:06:14,910 --> 02:06:19,890 the older older people older adults are just completely still 2108 02:06:19,950 --> 02:06:23,880 all sucked into the system. Now I love my light phone. John, I 2109 02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,280 know you scoff at it. I know Ben, you don't need one because 2110 02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:29,550 you put your your smartphone in the desk. I know. You know, you 2111 02:06:29,550 --> 02:06:31,650 John C Dvorak: don't run a whole podcast or downstairs. 2112 02:06:31,710 --> 02:06:34,020 Adam Curry: I run a podcasting empire. You know, there's a lot 2113 02:06:34,020 --> 02:06:40,560 to do here. But I love it. I love it. I'm weaning myself off. 2114 02:06:40,590 --> 02:06:43,590 It's pretty good. You know, now that now that I feel like I can 2115 02:06:43,590 --> 02:06:46,710 do I have a right tool for it. I have basically no internet when 2116 02:06:46,710 --> 02:06:50,910 I'm going out. Just text and phone Perfect. Perfect for me. 2117 02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:54,240 And all the schools that we see all these children are put into 2118 02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:58,350 schools that have no screens. What do we have no depression, 2119 02:06:58,410 --> 02:07:02,730 no suicide, and also strangely, very few trans. 2120 02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:08,700 John C Dvorak: So you think there's a connection? 2121 02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:13,380 Adam Curry: There's our opening. Thank you. That's exactly what I 2122 02:07:13,380 --> 02:07:14,160 was looking for. 2123 02:07:14,370 --> 02:07:17,700 John C Dvorak: So let's talk about climate as a report came 2124 02:07:17,700 --> 02:07:18,060 out. 2125 02:07:18,450 --> 02:07:22,140 Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, this was very funny. 2126 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,290 John C Dvorak: So I'm not even going to go to Americans. Let's 2127 02:07:25,290 --> 02:07:30,840 start with LG Zerah. And I got a three and a three parter with a 2128 02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:36,930 with a sub clip. Climate Oh no. AJ. Well, we 2129 02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:40,110 Unknown: begin with the state of our climate. And you rip away 2130 02:07:40,110 --> 02:07:40,740 Stop. 2131 02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:45,210 John C Dvorak: This is the top of the news, by the way. Right? 2132 02:07:45,210 --> 02:07:48,630 And it's not even news, though. report came out, stop, 2133 02:07:48,630 --> 02:07:51,840 everything stopped. The presses are starving in Ethiopia. 2134 02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:55,680 There's riots going on. They're killing each other in Sudan. No, 2135 02:07:55,740 --> 02:07:57,840 stop. Let's start with this. I love the 2136 02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:00,330 Adam Curry: starving and Ethiopia. What century are you 2137 02:08:00,330 --> 02:08:00,660 for? 2138 02:08:01,650 --> 02:08:04,560 John C Dvorak: Well, we're always striving for my bed. When 2139 02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:04,680 we 2140 02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:08,340 Unknown: begin with the state of our climate. A new report says 2141 02:08:08,340 --> 02:08:11,280 global temperatures will continue to climb into uncharted 2142 02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,970 territory. And then it is right now levels of heat around the 2143 02:08:14,970 --> 02:08:18,450 world are way beyond normal. But it's still thought the worst may 2144 02:08:18,450 --> 02:08:21,720 be yet to come. It's down to the double whammy of global warming, 2145 02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:24,960 and a weather phenomenon called El Nino. Here's our environment. 2146 02:08:26,010 --> 02:08:28,800 This look at a map of the world and pretty much everywhere this 2147 02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:32,520 year, we've seen searing unseasonable heat in Europe, in 2148 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,880 Asia and South America and in the United States record 2149 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:39,000 temperatures fueled by climate change. And it's not about to 2150 02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,630 stop report from the World Meteorological Organization says 2151 02:08:42,630 --> 02:08:44,880 it's almost certain we're going to see the hottest year on 2152 02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:49,110 record between now. And 2027. Yeah. Wait 2153 02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:52,230 Adam Curry: a minute, the world. It's the WMO we have a new one. 2154 02:08:52,590 --> 02:08:53,520 Hey, yeah, 2155 02:08:53,550 --> 02:08:57,930 John C Dvorak: don't we have the hottest year on record? Every 2156 02:08:57,930 --> 02:09:03,780 year after Democracy Now every year, year after year after year 2157 02:09:03,780 --> 02:09:08,790 Britain now. Now it's going to be we're going to soon see it. 2158 02:09:09,690 --> 02:09:10,920 We have already seen it. 2159 02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:13,860 Adam Curry: How do you read it says hottest year on record 2160 02:09:13,860 --> 02:09:15,570 ever, ever. It's happening 2161 02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:21,750 Unknown: part two, and 2027 and that we will breach the 1.5 2162 02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:25,170 degrees Celsius threshold of pre industrial levels set by the 2163 02:09:25,170 --> 02:09:29,160 Paris Agreement with increasing frequency. So what's going on? 2164 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,120 Are human induced global warming is about to be turbocharged by a 2165 02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:38,820 natural charge. El Nino happens every few years and sees winds 2166 02:09:38,820 --> 02:09:42,870 and ocean currents specific reverse direction significantly 2167 02:09:42,900 --> 02:09:46,230 altering global weather patterns, bringing hotter, drier 2168 02:09:46,230 --> 02:09:50,190 weather or even drought to places like Australia, Indonesia 2169 02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:53,550 and parts of South Asia. A day this week the Department of 2170 02:09:53,550 --> 02:09:55,590 Health and the Philippines warned its health care 2171 02:09:55,590 --> 02:09:58,500 facilities to be ready for the extreme effects of El Nino 2172 02:09:58,650 --> 02:10:01,560 affecting power and water. As supplies and potentially 2173 02:10:01,590 --> 02:10:02,850 spreading disease, 2174 02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:06,270 Adam Curry: they have always connected El Nino to death and 2175 02:10:06,270 --> 02:10:09,210 destruction from climate change. They always do that we've had El 2176 02:10:09,210 --> 02:10:10,650 Nino for centuries. 2177 02:10:10,740 --> 02:10:12,480 John C Dvorak: Well, they mentioned that it comes every 2178 02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:17,520 two years so Yeah, hello. Good thing how is it new now this is 2179 02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:21,480 a different visited El Nino especially well, I mean, it 2180 02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:22,440 doesn't make sense. 2181 02:10:23,250 --> 02:10:25,260 Adam Curry: El Nino El Nino was cheese. 2182 02:10:26,970 --> 02:10:30,390 John C Dvorak: Make sense? Now here's part three, there's a 2183 02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:33,270 little there's I think there's the one where the woman comes on 2184 02:10:33,270 --> 02:10:37,380 begging for money from some area. Oh, and she little truth 2185 02:10:37,380 --> 02:10:38,640 comes out. Hi, Jamila. 2186 02:10:39,210 --> 02:10:41,040 Adam Curry: I'm sorry, which one? I do I do the truth one 2187 02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:41,970 here. Now, 2188 02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,240 John C Dvorak: part three don't know that three A is deceptive. 2189 02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:45,570 Okay. 2190 02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:48,480 Unknown: Boyd is a member of Malaysia's Climate Action 2191 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:52,020 Council and she says everyone on the planet is at risk, 2192 02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:55,650 I think that the risk is real for everyone, whether you live 2193 02:10:55,650 --> 02:10:58,680 in the northern hemisphere or in the developing world, and I 2194 02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:01,950 think that you know, we are seeing the heat waves that are 2195 02:11:01,950 --> 02:11:06,960 going to happen now with the Phenom weather phenomena. We 2196 02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:10,470 know that in in many of these developed nations, the 2197 02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:12,960 demography mix of the nations are also different. So the 2198 02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:17,310 vulnerability of populations also will be more severe, where 2199 02:11:17,310 --> 02:11:21,840 there are elderly population. So I think, you know, everyone feel 2200 02:11:21,870 --> 02:11:28,350 the brunt of the in a warming world, no amount of advocacy and 2201 02:11:28,350 --> 02:11:31,890 work by all of us in the climate space and health space to tell 2202 02:11:31,890 --> 02:11:35,820 people about the damages and the consequences of climate change 2203 02:11:36,030 --> 02:11:38,730 is enough. We have skewed governance now that it's 2204 02:11:38,730 --> 02:11:43,740 favoring, you know, fossil fuel production, we are, you know, we 2205 02:11:43,740 --> 02:11:46,440 really need to reset the relationships, we need to re 2206 02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:50,670 examine why there is so much inaction. And until then, unless 2207 02:11:50,670 --> 02:11:54,630 we as humanity who have caused all this damage, start to re 2208 02:11:54,630 --> 02:11:58,680 examine our relationships with this planet. Honestly, I am 2209 02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:04,950 angry, you know, I feel that I cannot understand, you know, why 2210 02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:09,750 people are not ignoring the science. At the end of the day, 2211 02:12:09,750 --> 02:12:13,410 you know, we are in a very terrible situation. Now, we, you 2212 02:12:13,410 --> 02:12:16,200 know, we are facing what the UN has called an uncertainty 2213 02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:16,860 complex 2214 02:12:17,070 --> 02:12:21,360 Adam Curry: uncertainty complex. Is that like little things there 2215 02:12:21,420 --> 02:12:23,340 is that an inferiority complex 2216 02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:26,040 John C Dvorak: is there's uncertainty complex, you have 2217 02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:29,190 it. And so everybody does it. And if you're it, because you're 2218 02:12:29,190 --> 02:12:37,560 a climate change denier sciences, I thought was a self 2219 02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:40,680 contradictory statement in there, which was, I don't know 2220 02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,410 if you caught it. No, but it was one of these things. You hear 2221 02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:45,930 you hear these things all the time, this little truth wants to 2222 02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:48,960 come over listening to the sub clip, and you can hear what she 2223 02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:50,760 says, clearly, 2224 02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:54,630 Unknown: I cannot understand, you know why people are not 2225 02:12:54,750 --> 02:12:56,430 ignoring the science. 2226 02:12:57,060 --> 02:12:58,290 Adam Curry: Why they're not ignoring. 2227 02:12:58,710 --> 02:13:01,740 John C Dvorak: Why are people not ignoring the science? 2228 02:13:05,010 --> 02:13:07,620 Adam Curry: Truth comes out, that's how it always goes. I 2229 02:13:07,620 --> 02:13:14,010 actually have the French 24 promo reel of the WMO, which you 2230 02:13:14,010 --> 02:13:17,430 know, this, this tells you because it's world media rollup 2231 02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:22,530 Meteorological Organization. Now, I thought that the weather 2232 02:13:22,530 --> 02:13:26,520 is not climate. But yet these guys, they're the 2233 02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,290 meteorologists. They're in charge of 2234 02:13:28,290 --> 02:13:31,530 John C Dvorak: depending depends if it's convenient. Oh, blimey, 2235 02:13:31,650 --> 02:13:35,010 but if it's inconvenient, it's not claimed. But let's listen 2236 02:13:35,010 --> 02:13:35,250 what 2237 02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:37,770 Adam Curry: really sparked this incredible news. 2238 02:13:37,830 --> 02:13:41,070 Unknown: It is a stark warning. Yesterday on the one about the 2239 02:13:41,070 --> 02:13:45,000 climate emergency affecting all of us. The UN's World 2240 02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:49,350 Meteorological Organization, the WMO is saying that for the first 2241 02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:52,770 time ever, global temperatures are now more likely than not to 2242 02:13:52,770 --> 02:14:00,450 breach 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming between now and 2027 66 2243 02:14:00,450 --> 02:14:00,960 person 2244 02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:07,920 charged that we will exceed 1.5 degrees during the coming coming 2245 02:14:08,100 --> 02:14:12,990 five years. It's a conclusion that that we haven't been able 2246 02:14:12,990 --> 02:14:17,310 to limit the warming so far. And and we are still moving in the 2247 02:14:17,310 --> 02:14:18,510 wrong wrong direction. 2248 02:14:19,379 --> 02:14:23,339 The UN bodies forecast last year put the answer to about 5050. 2249 02:14:24,030 --> 02:14:28,080 Adam Curry: Okay, so the whole thing is because they said 2250 02:14:28,170 --> 02:14:35,190 instead of 50% 5050 In five years, it's now 66 Devil number. 2251 02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:40,410 It's now 66% I'd love to see their calculation. Could you 2252 02:14:40,410 --> 02:14:45,570 show your math? I mean, this is so so this is insultingly 2253 02:14:45,570 --> 02:14:51,780 stupid. Yeah, all right. I promised little background on 2254 02:14:52,590 --> 02:14:53,790 the Wagner group. 2255 02:14:54,210 --> 02:14:57,210 John C Dvorak: Unless you're smart. You promised a report and 2256 02:14:57,210 --> 02:14:59,730 Adam Curry: you Agile is a lot and some new things have come to 2257 02:14:59,730 --> 02:15:04,350 light First of all, the Kremlin on Thursday criticized a 2258 02:15:04,350 --> 02:15:09,750 decision by the United States to transfer Ukraine to Ukraine. The 2259 02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:13,980 forfeited assets of conservative Russian businessman Constantine, 2260 02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:17,640 Mallow VF saying it was illegal and would backfire on 2261 02:15:17,640 --> 02:15:21,330 Washington. Here it is. Now their start, I told you they 2262 02:15:21,330 --> 02:15:23,850 were going to do this. They're starting to transfer all the 2263 02:15:23,850 --> 02:15:29,070 assets to Ukraine, and this guy was ordered to do it. US 2264 02:15:29,070 --> 02:15:31,890 Attorney General Merrick Garland on Wednesday, authorized 2265 02:15:31,890 --> 02:15:35,010 millions of dollars worth of Mulleavy EFS forfeited assets to 2266 02:15:35,010 --> 02:15:38,880 be sent for use in Ukraine. The first such instance of forfeited 2267 02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:40,890 Russian money being used in such a way 2268 02:15:41,850 --> 02:15:44,880 John C Dvorak: as a lawsuit waiting to happen. 2269 02:15:44,910 --> 02:15:46,740 Adam Curry: Where you're going to do is the International 2270 02:15:46,740 --> 02:15:50,190 Criminal Court. And yours, there's, 2271 02:15:50,339 --> 02:15:53,579 John C Dvorak: there's Yeah, international law. Yeah, no, 2272 02:15:53,579 --> 02:15:55,739 Vance, this bullcrap. And 2273 02:15:55,740 --> 02:15:57,330 Adam Curry: what we discussed, what 2274 02:15:57,330 --> 02:15:59,250 John C Dvorak: is that guy got to do with it, the price of 2275 02:15:59,250 --> 02:15:59,640 bread, and 2276 02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:01,560 Adam Curry: you said it wouldn't happen? And I said it would. And 2277 02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:04,890 he said it wouldn't happen. Yes, you do what they say You said 2278 02:16:04,890 --> 02:16:07,050 that's exactly what you just said. It'll never happen. 2279 02:16:07,050 --> 02:16:09,900 There's international law against that. That's exactly 2280 02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:12,630 what you said. That's probably what I said. Then you're right. 2281 02:16:12,630 --> 02:16:14,820 And I said, you don't know what you're talking about. And I was 2282 02:16:14,820 --> 02:16:18,090 right. Do you know what I'm talking about? They don't care. 2283 02:16:18,090 --> 02:16:20,250 Except they don't care. Exactly. Dora does Europe. 2284 02:16:20,940 --> 02:16:23,670 Unknown: More than 40 countries as a summit of European leaders 2285 02:16:23,670 --> 02:16:26,640 have agreed a plan to make Russia pay for its war in 2286 02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:30,240 Ukraine. The Register of damages has been one of the major 2287 02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:33,270 talking points at the Council of Europe meeting in the Icelandic 2288 02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:36,420 capital, Reykjavik. Also on the agenda is approached by the 2289 02:16:36,420 --> 02:16:39,000 Prime Ministers of the UK and the Netherlands to build an 2290 02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:42,150 international coalition to boost Ukraine's air combat 2291 02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:43,020 capabilities. 2292 02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:45,270 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So we just wrap it all together. You see 2293 02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:49,830 what's happening here. We need some money. And then we need 2294 02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:54,210 some money because they need to pay for some of our weapons. So 2295 02:16:54,240 --> 02:16:58,620 let's take that money that we took and let's buy some weapons 2296 02:16:58,620 --> 02:17:01,500 with it. And Zelinsky when shopping 2297 02:17:01,529 --> 02:17:03,929 Unknown: prisons last case continuous European tour a 2298 02:17:04,289 --> 02:17:06,299 meeting with the British prime minister after talks with the 2299 02:17:06,299 --> 02:17:09,059 Pope and the French president this weekend, senior foreign 2300 02:17:09,059 --> 02:17:11,339 correspondent and panel as the latest Good morning in 2301 02:17:11,969 --> 02:17:15,239 Yeah, good morning, George UK just confirming the delivery of 2302 02:17:15,239 --> 02:17:17,549 these long range missiles that Tom was talking about after a 2303 02:17:17,549 --> 02:17:20,549 weekend for apparently surprise visits for Zelinsky ahead of 2304 02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:23,129 those sheduled meetings in Italy, first with the Pope and 2305 02:17:23,129 --> 02:17:25,979 then with the Italian Prime Minister, in turn the German 2306 02:17:25,979 --> 02:17:28,619 sending a plane to bring him to Berlin. Then last night, the 2307 02:17:28,619 --> 02:17:30,959 French sending a plane to whisking to Paris for dinner 2308 02:17:30,959 --> 02:17:34,169 with Macron. And then this morning, a surprise visit here 2309 02:17:34,169 --> 02:17:37,559 in London with Prime Minister Sunak with multiple pledges of 2310 02:17:37,559 --> 02:17:41,099 tanks, armored vehicles, long range missiles and drones. And 2311 02:17:41,099 --> 02:17:44,579 training for fighter pilots and soldiers is looking a lot like a 2312 02:17:44,579 --> 02:17:46,979 crucial last minute shopping trip ahead of the upcoming 2313 02:17:46,979 --> 02:17:49,919 counter offensive, I think a chance to show America that the 2314 02:17:49,919 --> 02:17:53,279 major European allies really are trying to pull their weight. So 2315 02:17:53,279 --> 02:17:56,189 Lensky telling journalist in Italy the offensive is in the 2316 02:17:56,189 --> 02:17:59,249 final stages of preparation, and the first steps will be taken 2317 02:17:59,249 --> 02:18:02,309 soon. But I think the Ukrainians know that the pressure is now on 2318 02:18:02,429 --> 02:18:05,369 to show more results on the battlefield as soon as possible 2319 02:18:05,459 --> 02:18:08,039 to keep that aid flowing. How stupid 2320 02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:11,130 Adam Curry: is this? I do not understand how you can keep 2321 02:18:11,130 --> 02:18:14,370 saying that's common. We're getting ready. We're about to do 2322 02:18:14,370 --> 02:18:16,950 it. Are you ready? But pay attention but we'll we'll let 2323 02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:18,690 you know. In fact, they're probably going to announce it 2324 02:18:18,990 --> 02:18:22,650 the day before tomorrow is the day the spring offensive which 2325 02:18:22,650 --> 02:18:26,910 is now going to be in fall. Spring is over isn't it? So are 2326 02:18:26,910 --> 02:18:29,910 we in summer yet or is it still spring? But this is still spring 2327 02:18:29,940 --> 02:18:30,720 still spring when 2328 02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:32,490 John C Dvorak: it's summer? Summer shortly June. 2329 02:18:32,490 --> 02:18:34,680 Adam Curry: Okay, well, we can still make it under the wire. 2330 02:18:35,370 --> 02:18:37,290 But no, but no. Oh, no, no, I'm 2331 02:18:37,290 --> 02:18:38,790 John C Dvorak: gonna make it they're not gonna do it. 2332 02:18:39,389 --> 02:18:42,719 Adam Curry: While he do he just went shopping. So now there's 2333 02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:43,139 some Yeah, 2334 02:18:43,140 --> 02:18:45,210 John C Dvorak: cuz he got they got orders. They got orders to 2335 02:18:45,210 --> 02:18:48,210 ship to Somalia. Dan, 2336 02:18:48,359 --> 02:18:51,689 Adam Curry: be up. No. Yeah, it's interesting. You say that? 2337 02:18:52,559 --> 02:18:56,819 Before I bring in the Wagner group. Listen, who's trying to 2338 02:18:56,819 --> 02:19:00,359 help out with this conflict. 2339 02:19:01,799 --> 02:19:04,709 Unknown: This unexpected African peace initiative has garnered 2340 02:19:04,709 --> 02:19:08,129 attention and support from various quarters, demonstrating 2341 02:19:08,129 --> 02:19:11,669 the potential for diplomacy to transcend borders and forging 2342 02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:12,719 alliances over the 2343 02:19:12,720 --> 02:19:19,530 weekend, I had the opportunity to represent the views of a 2344 02:19:19,530 --> 02:19:26,910 number of African leaders with regards to a peace mission that 2345 02:19:27,330 --> 02:19:31,980 those African leaders have been talking about for quite a number 2346 02:19:31,980 --> 02:19:39,150 of months and consulting amongst themselves with regards to how 2347 02:19:40,140 --> 02:19:47,790 Africa can make a contribution to bring about a solution to the 2348 02:19:47,790 --> 02:19:52,800 conflict in Ukraine. We have been talking about as African 2349 02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:58,110 leaders, because we concluded that conflict in that part of 2350 02:19:58,110 --> 02:20:03,570 the world much See does not affect Africa directly in the 2351 02:20:03,570 --> 02:20:09,870 form of deaths and destruction to infrastructure. It does have 2352 02:20:09,870 --> 02:20:15,210 an impact on the lives of many Africans. With regard to food 2353 02:20:15,210 --> 02:20:20,940 security, the prices of fertilizers have gone up. Prices 2354 02:20:20,940 --> 02:20:27,660 of cereals have gone up. And the prices have fewer people of 2355 02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:33,780 African heads of states took the view that Africa does need to 2356 02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:39,810 put forward an initiative a peace initiative that could help 2357 02:20:39,810 --> 02:20:44,550 to contribute to the solution of that conflict. 2358 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:47,340 Adam Curry: So this of course has nothing to do with Ukraine 2359 02:20:47,340 --> 02:20:50,880 Africa doesn't give a crap about Ukraine what they care about is 2360 02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:55,170 Russia's money Russia's mining for mineral wealth etc. Yes, 2361 02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:57,360 John C Dvorak: there's that element but don't you have you 2362 02:20:57,750 --> 02:21:02,580 maybe had to sidestep I've got two clips. Okay, cool. They do 2363 02:21:02,580 --> 02:21:05,640 care. I think Iran I think they care because they're gonna 2364 02:21:05,640 --> 02:21:08,580 starve to death if you listen to another unreported on the 2365 02:21:08,580 --> 02:21:12,750 Western media aspect of the war, which is kinda reminds me the 2366 02:21:12,750 --> 02:21:16,020 star cozy clip I played earlier. Play that we'll start with this 2367 02:21:16,020 --> 02:21:19,890 one, which is Ukraine and grain spring 2368 02:21:20,010 --> 02:21:22,890 Unknown: in western Ukraine. This young wheat will be ready 2369 02:21:22,890 --> 02:21:26,520 to harvest in two months, but farmers here worried they won't 2370 02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:29,940 be able to sell it because the war has severely disrupted 2371 02:21:29,940 --> 02:21:35,760 exports. Selena's family has owned this farm for decades. She 2372 02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:39,360 says Russia's blockade of black sea ports and new import 2373 02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:42,780 restrictions in some EU countries are hampering trade. 2374 02:21:42,810 --> 02:21:47,940 Ah, there it is. ethology. Yuck, sits the port blockades, we've 2375 02:21:47,940 --> 02:21:51,780 not being able to send by sea. So we started exporting via our 2376 02:21:51,780 --> 02:21:55,200 western border to Poland and Hungary. But now they've banned 2377 02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:58,230 our grains. So our trucks have to carry our products all the 2378 02:21:58,230 --> 02:22:02,130 way to Italy, Poland, Hungary and three other countries 2379 02:22:02,130 --> 02:22:05,490 recently banned imports of Ukrainian grain to prevent a 2380 02:22:05,490 --> 02:22:08,700 glut. Although the grain can still transmit through them. 2381 02:22:09,090 --> 02:22:12,810 It's forced this farm to find new clients further afield. But 2382 02:22:12,810 --> 02:22:16,320 logistics of pushing up costs. And not being able to export 2383 02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:20,250 easily means millions of dollars worth of grain could be lost. 2384 02:22:20,790 --> 02:22:24,660 Usually at this time of year, all of the grain on this farm 2385 02:22:24,690 --> 02:22:27,600 would have been sold. But because of the war, and all the 2386 02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:31,950 problems linked to it, half of last year's harvest is still 2387 02:22:31,950 --> 02:22:36,660 here having to be stocked in the silos. And in these huge plastic 2388 02:22:36,660 --> 02:22:37,290 sleeves. 2389 02:22:37,380 --> 02:22:39,900 Adam Curry: I think this complement what I'm saying this 2390 02:22:39,900 --> 02:22:42,540 Well, hold on. Let me just finish. And then you can play 2391 02:22:42,540 --> 02:22:46,200 your second one. This complements it because you can't 2392 02:22:46,260 --> 02:22:49,440 make a deal unless you have something to offer. They have 2393 02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:52,620 something to offer. They can take money from China, money 2394 02:22:52,620 --> 02:22:55,950 from America or money from Russia. That's what they're 2395 02:22:55,950 --> 02:23:00,990 offering up and all of Africa is being courted by everybody. And 2396 02:23:00,990 --> 02:23:03,720 there and so I think what they're saying is Russia will go 2397 02:23:03,720 --> 02:23:05,490 with you if you if you let us eat. 2398 02:23:07,410 --> 02:23:09,930 John C Dvorak: No, they did let them eat. They still have to, 2399 02:23:10,320 --> 02:23:14,730 they have to get this war result because the Russians part part 2400 02:23:14,730 --> 02:23:18,420 two of this clip actually brings Africa into it as I think it's 2401 02:23:18,420 --> 02:23:19,320 pretty revealing. 2402 02:23:19,470 --> 02:23:21,270 Unknown: Well, shrinking resources are causing strain 2403 02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:24,480 across the African continent and the Ukraine war has only made it 2404 02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:28,320 worse. South Africa's president says six African countries will 2405 02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:31,980 send a peace mission to Ukraine and Russia as soon as possible. 2406 02:23:32,220 --> 02:23:35,700 Senegal is one of the countries involved. Nicholas Hogg reports 2407 02:23:35,700 --> 02:23:36,300 from Dhaka, 2408 02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:41,040 a peace initiative by six African nations mediating an end 2409 02:23:41,100 --> 02:23:44,190 to the war in Ukraine. The announcement was made by South 2410 02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:46,470 African President Cyril Ramaphosa. 2411 02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:50,970 The two leaders that I had occasion to speak to that is 2412 02:23:50,970 --> 02:23:56,400 President Putin and President Zelensky agreed that they will 2413 02:23:56,400 --> 02:24:00,990 be willing to receive the mission of the African heads of 2414 02:24:00,990 --> 02:24:04,380 states in both Moscow and Kyiv. 2415 02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:07,770 Despite pressure from Western countries, most African 2416 02:24:07,770 --> 02:24:11,580 countries have abstained from voting on resolutions at the UN 2417 02:24:11,580 --> 02:24:14,550 Security Council condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 2418 02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:17,880 Meanwhile, Russia has been building close economic and 2419 02:24:17,880 --> 02:24:21,510 military ties with states in Africa since the war began. 2420 02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:25,530 So crazy. I believe Ukraine really needs to take steps 2421 02:24:25,530 --> 02:24:28,560 forward to meet the countries of the African continent. We didn't 2422 02:24:28,560 --> 02:24:31,770 work well, for many years. We didn't pay attention. I think 2423 02:24:31,770 --> 02:24:33,900 it's a big mistake. Ukraine is 2424 02:24:33,900 --> 02:24:37,680 one of the biggest exporters of wheat to Africa. Russia is one 2425 02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:42,180 of the largest exporters of fertilizer to the continent. The 2426 02:24:42,180 --> 02:24:45,000 heads of state of Zambia, Senegal, the Republic of Congo, 2427 02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:48,270 Uganda, Egypt, and South Africa are set to meet with the two 2428 02:24:48,270 --> 02:24:52,500 leaders as soon as possible, but many are questioning whether the 2429 02:24:52,500 --> 02:24:56,160 African peace initiative can succeed when others have failed. 2430 02:24:56,940 --> 02:24:59,820 Adam Curry: No, I think this is the way it's gonna go and and 2431 02:24:59,820 --> 02:25:04,980 run Russia has a huge incentive to be big man on campus in 2432 02:25:04,980 --> 02:25:08,640 Africa, the whole continent is open and there and here the Six 2433 02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:11,760 Nations ready to negotiate Africa. 2434 02:25:13,380 --> 02:25:17,310 John C Dvorak: If they can sell the idea that we're the ones 2435 02:25:17,310 --> 02:25:22,320 responsible for the there you go the war. We're obviously the 2436 02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:25,950 ones responsible for trying to starve the Africans. 2437 02:25:26,009 --> 02:25:29,129 Adam Curry: Yes, it's time for another live eight verse Bano. 2438 02:25:31,169 --> 02:25:34,139 Okay, so now let's look at the Wagner group because there's a 2439 02:25:34,139 --> 02:25:38,399 lot of things going on with them. France 24 did a very long 2440 02:25:38,429 --> 02:25:42,389 expose a I've cut it into just a couple of pieces. Because once 2441 02:25:42,389 --> 02:25:46,859 you hit the second clip, you already know that this people 2442 02:25:46,859 --> 02:25:50,009 laugh at me. They're telling me I'm stupid. Saved. This is not 2443 02:25:50,009 --> 02:25:53,429 true. These guys are for real, but they're the real. They're 2444 02:25:53,429 --> 02:25:56,429 the real. The real fighters. They're really doing all the 2445 02:25:56,429 --> 02:25:59,999 work. I'm calling bull crap on all of it. This is a Dad's Army 2446 02:25:59,999 --> 02:26:03,599 a fictional thing. And I've never seen more than five guys 2447 02:26:03,629 --> 02:26:07,679 in front of this fat dude who's not just Putin Putin chef, but 2448 02:26:07,679 --> 02:26:12,059 he's an oligarch and listen to this report from F 24. 2449 02:26:12,839 --> 02:26:17,099 Explaining the Wagner group the only fighting force we hear 2450 02:26:17,159 --> 02:26:20,879 about from Russia. We don't hear about Russian troops. We hear 2451 02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:23,519 about any any troop movements anymore. Not all the Bogner 2452 02:26:23,519 --> 02:26:25,559 group, the Wagner group back moved back in the group. 2453 02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:27,510 Unknown: Let's talk about the Wagner group 2454 02:26:27,540 --> 02:26:29,940 secretive Russian mercenary group shadowy 2455 02:26:29,940 --> 02:26:33,720 private security company that has ties to the Kremlin group 2456 02:26:33,750 --> 02:26:35,550 has a gruesome reputation. 2457 02:26:38,670 --> 02:26:42,810 The Wagner group has been around for about 10 years. And its 2458 02:26:42,810 --> 02:26:46,890 forces have shown up in all sorts of places, from Syria, to 2459 02:26:46,890 --> 02:26:48,600 Mali, to Mozambique. 2460 02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:51,630 What's interesting is essentially acting as a proxy 2461 02:26:51,930 --> 02:26:55,320 for the Russian government in different armed conflicts. 2462 02:26:56,190 --> 02:26:58,800 And recently, they've been getting a lot of attention 2463 02:26:58,830 --> 02:27:00,600 because of what they're doing in Ukraine. 2464 02:27:01,350 --> 02:27:05,820 Wagner went from being this small, Special Forces like 2465 02:27:05,850 --> 02:27:11,640 mercenary group in Africa to sort of large Cannon Fodder on 2466 02:27:11,640 --> 02:27:12,990 the fields of Ukraine. 2467 02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:16,080 So what do we actually know about the Wagner group? What it 2468 02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:18,810 does, where it operates? And who's behind it? 2469 02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:22,140 Adam Curry: Now, okay, whoo, this sounds like a real 2470 02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:25,950 Cinderella story. In this next piece, you'll hear a 2471 02:27:25,950 --> 02:27:29,160 representative from the CSIS Center for Strategic and 2472 02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:33,180 International Studies. Another one of those groups, and they'll 2473 02:27:33,180 --> 02:27:36,270 tell you about how dangerous this Wagner group really is. 2474 02:27:36,540 --> 02:27:39,480 Unknown: Longer group is secretive and hard to define. 2475 02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:42,930 Basically, they get paid to send their armed personnel to 2476 02:27:42,930 --> 02:27:46,290 different countries, you could say that makes them mercenaries, 2477 02:27:46,380 --> 02:27:49,470 but that word has a legal definition that doesn't always 2478 02:27:49,470 --> 02:27:53,910 fit with what they do. They're also often described as a PMC, a 2479 02:27:53,910 --> 02:27:57,390 private military company. That doesn't quite fit either. 2480 02:27:57,720 --> 02:28:00,330 Because Wagner isn't just one company, 2481 02:28:00,420 --> 02:28:04,650 it's better thought of as a loose network of companies, 2482 02:28:04,650 --> 02:28:09,450 financial intermediaries that are all linked together, in as 2483 02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:14,790 opaque away as possible so as to make it difficult to understand 2484 02:28:14,970 --> 02:28:18,510 what their financial and organizational links are, and to 2485 02:28:18,510 --> 02:28:20,880 make it very difficult to hold them accountable for their 2486 02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:21,870 actions. Does this 2487 02:28:21,870 --> 02:28:26,340 Adam Curry: sound like anything? This is not like Eric Prince's 2488 02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:29,430 outfit. This is something else. To me it's ghost. 2489 02:28:31,290 --> 02:28:34,830 Unknown: Now, the group first appeared in 2014. When Russia 2490 02:28:34,830 --> 02:28:38,070 illegally annexed Crimea and sided with pro Russian 2491 02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:42,150 separatists in eastern Ukraine. Footage of masked soldiers and 2492 02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:45,690 unmarked uniforms started cropping up. People were calling 2493 02:28:45,690 --> 02:28:49,620 them little green men, and at least some of them were linked 2494 02:28:49,650 --> 02:28:54,360 to the Wagner group. Now no name is in reference to the German 2495 02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:58,500 composer Richard Wagner, who was Hitler's favorite, and vogner 2496 02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:02,100 was apparently the battlefield callsign used by a guy named 2497 02:29:02,130 --> 02:29:05,460 Dmitry Utkin, who used to be a Special Forces officer in the 2498 02:29:05,460 --> 02:29:08,730 Russian military. He's often been talked about as the group's 2499 02:29:08,730 --> 02:29:13,140 founder and is reportedly still involved. But the man you really 2500 02:29:13,140 --> 02:29:17,070 need to know about is Yevgeny Prigogine. A Russian oligarch 2501 02:29:17,550 --> 02:29:20,520 Adam Curry: so when I heard the little green men in Ukraine in 2502 02:29:20,520 --> 02:29:23,550 2014, that's when I knew that this whole Wagner group thing is 2503 02:29:23,550 --> 02:29:26,760 bullcrap. We know the little green men we know who was 2504 02:29:26,760 --> 02:29:29,250 responsible for the killing on the My Dawn, it was not the 2505 02:29:29,250 --> 02:29:33,060 Wagner group. And please, the insult of throwing in the Oh 2506 02:29:33,060 --> 02:29:36,360 yeah, it's called Wagner because you know that love Hitler? Yeah, 2507 02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:39,990 it's named after Hitler's favorite composer. I mean, this 2508 02:29:39,990 --> 02:29:44,850 is propaganda. And here's the chef to oligarchy story. 2509 02:29:45,060 --> 02:29:48,810 Unknown: In late 2022, he came out of the shadows. There are 2510 02:29:48,810 --> 02:29:52,620 now several videos of Prigogine that work with his forces on the 2511 02:29:52,620 --> 02:29:56,550 ground and trying to sign up. New recruits for Goshen also 2512 02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:59,670 published this statement, claiming that he founded the 2513 02:29:59,670 --> 02:30:03,000 group Back in 2014, he officially registered the 2514 02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:06,660 company as a consulting business and opened up a flashy new 2515 02:30:06,660 --> 02:30:09,420 headquarters in St. Petersburg, which is significant 2516 02:30:09,420 --> 02:30:13,320 not only for being Wagner his first official headquarters 2517 02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:18,690 first formal existence, on paper and on property, but also for 2518 02:30:18,690 --> 02:30:23,640 the fact that it is located on Russian soil, where PMCS are 2519 02:30:23,670 --> 02:30:24,870 technically illegal. 2520 02:30:24,900 --> 02:30:27,840 Now precautions relationship with Putin goes back to the 2521 02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:31,890 1990s. They're from the same city of St. Petersburg, where 2522 02:30:31,890 --> 02:30:35,370 Prigogine went from selling hot dogs to owning several 2523 02:30:35,370 --> 02:30:39,750 restaurants. And Putin was a regular customer. After becoming 2524 02:30:39,750 --> 02:30:43,440 president. He brought along some pretty well known dignitaries, 2525 02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:49,830 and Prigogine picked up the nickname of Putin chef. Soon he 2526 02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:52,500 was scoring some pretty lucrative catering contracts, 2527 02:30:52,530 --> 02:30:55,710 including for the Russian military. Over the years, he's 2528 02:30:55,710 --> 02:31:00,000 become super rich, politically influential, and has built up a 2529 02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:01,410 media empire to 2530 02:31:01,500 --> 02:31:05,760 Adam Curry: know Okay, so this guy is fabulous. He's got 2531 02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:09,270 everything going for him, except it's starting to unravel. And 2532 02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:14,460 now we go back to our favorite topic, the leaked documents from 2533 02:31:14,460 --> 02:31:20,550 the kid in the discord chat room. Now things are unraveling 2534 02:31:20,550 --> 02:31:24,330 for the Wagner group because the leaked documents are telling us 2535 02:31:24,330 --> 02:31:27,870 something that is not does not shine favorably upon but 2536 02:31:27,870 --> 02:31:31,080 Gaussian precaution Shima Koshien, whatever the guy's name 2537 02:31:31,080 --> 02:31:35,670 is, and that dog guy, the hot dog guy exactly from hot dog guy 2538 02:31:35,670 --> 02:31:36,930 to media mogul, 2539 02:31:36,990 --> 02:31:40,380 Unknown: an act of treason or an attempted set up. According to 2540 02:31:40,380 --> 02:31:43,530 The Washington Post Wagner owner and founder Yevgeni particular 2541 02:31:43,530 --> 02:31:46,500 sheen allegedly offered to reveal the positions of Russian 2542 02:31:46,500 --> 02:31:49,500 troops to the Ukrainian government back in January in 2543 02:31:49,500 --> 02:31:53,190 exchange for keep withdrawing its troops from Bahamas where 2544 02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:56,580 Wagner's mercenaries had been paying a heavy price for months 2545 02:31:56,610 --> 02:32:00,360 in the ongoing war. The Russian oligarch called the allegations 2546 02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:03,660 nonsense. He also denied claims of having met the head of 2547 02:32:03,660 --> 02:32:07,110 Ukrainian military intelligence and an unnamed African country 2548 02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:10,230 and suggested he was being set up by some of Moscow's 2549 02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:13,800 elitist mob was revered in this just because I was here I can 2550 02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:16,680 say with certainty that I haven't been in Africa, at least 2551 02:32:16,710 --> 02:32:19,710 since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine and even in 2552 02:32:19,710 --> 02:32:22,530 the month before the start of the special military operation. 2553 02:32:23,190 --> 02:32:25,980 I couldn't physically meet anyone their new skin, 2554 02:32:26,490 --> 02:32:30,180 your new mock the claims from the Washington Post are based on 2555 02:32:30,180 --> 02:32:33,090 the secret US documents leaked to the group chat platform 2556 02:32:33,090 --> 02:32:36,120 discord in April. The allegations come after 2557 02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:39,000 precaution publicly called out several high ranking members of 2558 02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:42,060 the Russian military commander, accusing them of withholding 2559 02:32:42,060 --> 02:32:44,940 ammunition and weapons from his men and not supporting Wagner 2560 02:32:44,940 --> 02:32:48,990 troops and back. For its part, the Kremlin has dismissed the 2561 02:32:48,990 --> 02:32:50,460 accusations as hearsay. 2562 02:32:53,280 --> 02:32:58,320 No, I can't comment on it. But it looks like another hoax. 2563 02:32:58,920 --> 02:33:03,240 Unfortunately, even publications that were respected in the past 2564 02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:04,920 have become accustomed to this. 2565 02:33:06,870 --> 02:33:09,420 Meanwhile, Washington has declined to comment on the 2566 02:33:09,420 --> 02:33:10,620 newspapers report. 2567 02:33:10,980 --> 02:33:14,880 Adam Curry: Okay, so notice there's Africa again, Africa in 2568 02:33:14,880 --> 02:33:18,180 the picture clearly in the picture of this quagmire. And 2569 02:33:18,180 --> 02:33:22,560 this Washington Post report, which came out Saturday was 2570 02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:26,850 sections were deleted on Sunday. Here's a section that was 2571 02:33:26,850 --> 02:33:29,280 deleted from this Washington Post report. This is an 2572 02:33:30,060 --> 02:33:34,830 interview with Zelinsky WaPo. I says, the documents indicate 2573 02:33:34,830 --> 02:33:38,550 that the G EUR your Intelligence Directorate has backchannel 2574 02:33:38,550 --> 02:33:43,350 contact with even G Poghosyan. That you are aware of including 2575 02:33:43,350 --> 02:33:46,980 meeting with Prigogine and G who are officers? Is that true? 2576 02:33:47,220 --> 02:33:51,000 Zelinsky. This is a matter of military intelligence. Do you 2577 02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:54,300 want me to be convicted of state treason? And so it's very 2578 02:33:54,300 --> 02:33:57,000 interesting if someone is saying that you have documents, which 2579 02:33:57,000 --> 02:33:59,610 were the leaked documents, or if someone from our government is 2580 02:33:59,610 --> 02:34:02,670 speaking about the activities of our intelligence, I would also 2581 02:34:02,670 --> 02:34:05,970 like to ask you a question with which sources from Ukraine Do 2582 02:34:05,970 --> 02:34:08,490 you have contacts who was talking about the activities of 2583 02:34:08,490 --> 02:34:11,250 our intelligence? Because this is the most severe felony our 2584 02:34:11,250 --> 02:34:15,480 country? Which Ukrainians are you talking about? WaPo I talked 2585 02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:17,940 to officials in government but these documents are not from the 2586 02:34:17,940 --> 02:34:21,000 Ukraine they are from Zelinsky doesn't matter where the 2587 02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:24,540 documents are from. The question is which Ukrainian official Did 2588 02:34:24,540 --> 02:34:26,610 you talk to you because if they say something about our 2589 02:34:26,610 --> 02:34:29,250 intelligence, that's treason. If they say something about a 2590 02:34:29,250 --> 02:34:32,340 specific offensive plan of one general or another, it is also 2591 02:34:32,340 --> 02:34:35,460 treason. That is why I asked you which Ukrainians are you are you 2592 02:34:35,460 --> 02:34:39,660 talking to? This was all deleted. But luckily, we have 2593 02:34:39,660 --> 02:34:42,090 Judge Napolitano on the case the Washington 2594 02:34:42,090 --> 02:34:46,680 Unknown: Post is claiming that you have Jenny precaution. You 2595 02:34:46,680 --> 02:34:50,520 remember he we've run the clips of him many times. He is the 2596 02:34:50,520 --> 02:34:54,150 Russian oligarch. He's a self made billionaire who runs 2597 02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:57,660 something called the Wagner group. The Wagner group was 2598 02:34:57,660 --> 02:35:03,840 originally established by I, the old Gru Gru is the initials for 2599 02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:07,800 what used to be called Russian military intelligence, if 2600 02:35:07,800 --> 02:35:10,440 different initials and different names now, but basically the 2601 02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:15,900 same people. So, precaution but some of his money in the GRU put 2602 02:35:15,900 --> 02:35:20,730 some of their money in, and they got these special forces types. 2603 02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:24,120 And then they got prisoner types. And then they got killer 2604 02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:28,170 types. And then they got veterans. And they put together 2605 02:35:28,170 --> 02:35:32,370 this group of soldiers of fortune, and they fight where 2606 02:35:32,370 --> 02:35:34,860 the Russian president wants them. And they've been pretty 2607 02:35:34,890 --> 02:35:39,690 effective and even ruthless fighters in Ukraine. So what has 2608 02:35:39,690 --> 02:35:45,000 changed now now back to this allegation, if precaution had 2609 02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:49,830 offered to give Russian military plans, the most secret plans 2610 02:35:49,830 --> 02:35:53,160 there are about where Russian troops are located, and from 2611 02:35:53,160 --> 02:35:57,570 where they plan to attack to Russia's mortal enemy. I would 2612 02:35:57,570 --> 02:36:03,540 think that he'd be in a gulag in Siberia by now. So either he 2613 02:36:03,540 --> 02:36:08,580 offered to do this as part of a Russian plot to give false 2614 02:36:08,580 --> 02:36:14,370 plans, or he never offered to do this. And the CIA has persuaded 2615 02:36:14,370 --> 02:36:18,420 the Washington Post which has been a mouthpiece for the CIA 2616 02:36:18,750 --> 02:36:27,510 for 60 years, six zero years, or the CIA persuaded the Washington 2617 02:36:27,510 --> 02:36:30,450 Post to go with the story in the Washington Post did so 2618 02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:33,720 uncritically. So I don't know if this is true or not. But I want 2619 02:36:33,720 --> 02:36:37,830 you to know that it's out there these allegations that 2620 02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:42,720 precaution made this offer, I believe this is either entirely 2621 02:36:42,720 --> 02:36:47,370 made up by the CIA or precaution did make this offer. But it 2622 02:36:47,370 --> 02:36:50,940 wasn't offered to give them false information and false 2623 02:36:50,940 --> 02:36:55,020 hope, which would result in their destruction. 2624 02:36:55,050 --> 02:36:56,970 Adam Curry: What do you think is really going on here, John? 2625 02:36:59,970 --> 02:37:02,820 John C Dvorak: Well, the first thing I think of when I think of 2626 02:37:02,820 --> 02:37:07,560 the white Guru is middlemen for the black market. Yeah, for 2627 02:37:07,560 --> 02:37:10,950 nothing and minerals and stuff. Mainly, well, maybe minerals, 2628 02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:14,790 one direction and arms, our arms that we're sending over there 2629 02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:17,340 and the other direction, because I don't see those arms are being 2630 02:37:17,340 --> 02:37:18,870 used wisely. Or 2631 02:37:19,109 --> 02:37:21,509 Adam Curry: even at all. We know they're showing up all over 2632 02:37:21,509 --> 02:37:23,039 Africa. We know that so 2633 02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:25,530 John C Dvorak: there's something fishy going on. I think this guy 2634 02:37:25,560 --> 02:37:29,790 in he's kind of I know what kind of an oligarch he is. But bike 2635 02:37:29,790 --> 02:37:32,730 market would be one good way of being that we did, especially in 2636 02:37:32,730 --> 02:37:37,860 the restaurant business where you can do money laundering. The 2637 02:37:37,860 --> 02:37:41,250 whole thing is, I don't know. I have no idea. It's a mess. I 2638 02:37:41,250 --> 02:37:42,870 don't I don't believe any of it. 2639 02:37:42,900 --> 02:37:47,070 Adam Curry: No, I think it's all it's all of it's phony. It's all 2640 02:37:47,070 --> 02:37:51,300 phony baloney of deceit that this is the last two clips. I 2641 02:37:51,300 --> 02:37:54,690 love the France 24 explanation. I mean, you make this in this 2642 02:37:54,690 --> 02:37:58,290 whole thing and no one really knows. And it's all complicated. 2643 02:37:58,290 --> 02:38:02,250 But oh yeah, you know, Wagner, and especially the Hitler's 2644 02:38:02,250 --> 02:38:06,390 favorite composer is this. It has fake written all over it 2645 02:38:06,390 --> 02:38:06,600 from 2646 02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:09,450 John C Dvorak: you and you bring a Hitler into the conversation. 2647 02:38:09,450 --> 02:38:10,290 That's a red flag. 2648 02:38:10,530 --> 02:38:12,930 Adam Curry: Here's Nora O'Donnell on Putin's private 2649 02:38:12,930 --> 02:38:13,260 army 2650 02:38:13,289 --> 02:38:16,439 Unknown: now to a CBS News investigation into Russia's 2651 02:38:16,439 --> 02:38:20,159 vogner group. That's a private paramilitary organization with 2652 02:38:20,159 --> 02:38:23,999 close ties to President Vladimir Putin. Now most know the group 2653 02:38:23,999 --> 02:38:26,879 through its involvement in the war in Ukraine, but one of its 2654 02:38:26,879 --> 02:38:29,819 main sources of funding comes from working with unsavory 2655 02:38:29,819 --> 02:38:33,749 regimes around the world. The US labeled them a transnational 2656 02:38:33,779 --> 02:38:37,349 criminal organization. Hmm. CBS Deborah PATA followed the 2657 02:38:37,349 --> 02:38:39,569 mercenary groups trail to Central Africa. 2658 02:38:41,700 --> 02:38:45,870 Being Vladimir Putin's a tech dog in Ukraine requires deep 2659 02:38:45,870 --> 02:38:49,770 pockets. That's why Bob the Busey of Guinea through Goshen 2660 02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:53,970 relies on plundering natural resources 1000s of miles away 2661 02:38:53,970 --> 02:38:58,530 here in the Central African Republic. In exchange, Wagner 2662 02:38:58,530 --> 02:39:01,830 provides mercenary muscle to prop up the country's leader. 2663 02:39:01,980 --> 02:39:06,030 Here, you see most Russian fighters actually guarding the 2664 02:39:06,030 --> 02:39:11,160 president. documents obtained by CBS news show how valid there is 2665 02:39:11,160 --> 02:39:14,970 given government contracts to exploit car gold mines and 2666 02:39:14,970 --> 02:39:19,680 forests through a galaxy of shell companies. oarsmen not his 2667 02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:23,190 real name told us he was tortured by the mercenaries who 2668 02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:27,390 seized his family's gold business, he said ca RS minerals 2669 02:39:27,390 --> 02:39:30,720 and would help fund the group's criminal activities. 2670 02:39:30,810 --> 02:39:33,330 Adam Curry: I think you're right I think this is exactly what's 2671 02:39:33,330 --> 02:39:36,540 going on. These guys are they're probably just getting all the 2672 02:39:36,540 --> 02:39:40,170 way get all these weapons from the US I will take these we'll 2673 02:39:40,170 --> 02:39:42,870 take these we'll take these and send them back down to Africa. 2674 02:39:42,990 --> 02:39:46,110 Africa is gone. Hey, we got a pretty good gig going on here. 2675 02:39:46,140 --> 02:39:50,880 But you know, we've we're pretty strong in this now let's let us 2676 02:39:50,910 --> 02:39:55,200 eat. And we'll see if we can do some business with the with 2677 02:39:55,200 --> 02:39:56,190 Russia that how 2678 02:39:56,190 --> 02:39:59,190 Unknown: does the US designated transnational criminal 2679 02:39:59,190 --> 02:40:04,020 organization An exported Gold Bug Net they have total control 2680 02:40:04,020 --> 02:40:07,830 of the airport or smart explains and a cargo plane flying between 2681 02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:12,510 Moscow and Bungie. Sure, CBS News secretly recorded this 2682 02:40:12,540 --> 02:40:18,360 Bogner cargo plane just after it landed in the capital. From car 2683 02:40:18,360 --> 02:40:21,990 that plane went dark over Africa, before turning up in the 2684 02:40:21,990 --> 02:40:26,610 United Arab Emirates. Soon after another plane also lands there 2685 02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:30,840 from Moscow. The two aircraft overlap for about eight hours, 2686 02:40:31,080 --> 02:40:35,190 plenty of time to potentially transfer cargo before heading 2687 02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:39,960 back to where they came from. This web of deceit allows 2688 02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:44,100 Prigogine to evade sanctions and rake in the billions that fund 2689 02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:50,310 his criminal empire and his private army in Ukraine. State 2690 02:40:50,310 --> 02:40:53,040 Department officials have told us that the US is working to 2691 02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:57,150 limit precautions ability to profit from others operations in 2692 02:40:57,150 --> 02:41:01,740 Africa and that it is engaging all countries who may be 2693 02:41:01,740 --> 02:41:05,130 facilitating this knowingly or unknowingly. 2694 02:41:05,550 --> 02:41:07,800 Adam Curry: I think we both kind of stumbled onto the same thing 2695 02:41:07,860 --> 02:41:11,160 Africa Africa is the cat bird here this is this is this is the 2696 02:41:11,160 --> 02:41:11,760 theater 2697 02:41:12,210 --> 02:41:14,100 John C Dvorak: you know this is interesting where they do the 2698 02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:16,800 deal there they transfer the planes or goods or whatever the 2699 02:41:16,800 --> 02:41:19,620 hell they're doing in the United Arab Emirates and so they're 2700 02:41:19,620 --> 02:41:25,140 stealing gold go at the UAE is where is one of the biggest gold 2701 02:41:25,140 --> 02:41:30,330 markets in the world. I mean, there's a whole area in Dubai I 2702 02:41:30,330 --> 02:41:34,020 visited which is just a gold district. It's like a you know, 2703 02:41:34,020 --> 02:41:38,640 it's like the Jewelry District Right? Right. You can buy all as 2704 02:41:38,640 --> 02:41:44,040 gone they sell you gold in any form you want bracelets 2705 02:41:44,040 --> 02:41:49,590 necklaces, or buy them with the current weight the way it it's 2706 02:41:49,590 --> 02:41:52,770 it's astonishing gold market. And so I think they're taking 2707 02:41:52,770 --> 02:41:55,590 the gold there. And that's kind of left out of the report 2708 02:41:55,590 --> 02:41:58,080 because this all black market stuff. These guys are black 2709 02:41:58,080 --> 02:41:58,920 market tears. 2710 02:41:59,010 --> 02:42:02,310 Adam Curry: This is great. For sure it has nothing to do with 2711 02:42:02,310 --> 02:42:03,240 Ukraine. 2712 02:42:04,860 --> 02:42:07,350 John C Dvorak: Now it's got nothing to do it Ukraine. 2713 02:42:07,950 --> 02:42:11,670 Adam Curry: With Ukraine. This is international goods, weapons. 2714 02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:14,610 All kinds of gold black market stuff. Yeah. 2715 02:42:14,610 --> 02:42:16,980 John C Dvorak: A lot of taxpayer a lot of American taxpayer money 2716 02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:17,580 stuff. 2717 02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:20,880 Adam Curry: Yes. And what do we know about Ukraine corrupt? It's 2718 02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:23,160 where you want to where you exactly where you want to 2719 02:42:23,160 --> 02:42:28,320 operate all this stuff from perfect? Yeah, no, no, 2720 02:42:28,350 --> 02:42:29,580 John C Dvorak: I think we've been taken for a 2721 02:42:29,580 --> 02:42:38,010 Adam Curry: ride, I would say. Oh, goodness gracious. Oh, I do 2722 02:42:38,010 --> 02:42:42,120 have a quick report about the next pandemic. It's about time 2723 02:42:42,120 --> 02:42:45,960 for bird flu. They've tried it several times in our past. No, 2724 02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:48,720 no, no, they're gonna bring it from Canada and I know how 2725 02:42:48,900 --> 02:42:51,390 Unknown: poultry farmers in Quebec are grappling with a 2726 02:42:51,390 --> 02:42:55,050 series of outbreaks of deadly avian flu. The province has 2727 02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:56,550 never seen so many Kaos 2728 02:42:56,550 --> 02:43:00,120 Adam Curry: deadly avian flu, not bird flu, deadly avian flu 2729 02:43:00,150 --> 02:43:03,660 Unknown: cases. And right now it's Canada's epicenter for the 2730 02:43:03,660 --> 02:43:07,380 disease. Let's get more from the CBC. Sarah Levitt joins us live 2731 02:43:07,410 --> 02:43:10,710 from Montreal. Sarah, what is the situation in Quebec right 2732 02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:10,980 now? 2733 02:43:13,440 --> 02:43:17,340 Well, Hannah, it's not good for poultry farmers. Right now the 2734 02:43:17,340 --> 02:43:21,810 latest numbers were about 20 Farms in all were found to be 2735 02:43:21,840 --> 02:43:25,800 infected with the avian flu. That's not good news for those 2736 02:43:25,800 --> 02:43:30,630 farmers. It means having to either euthanize either the 2737 02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:34,800 birds die from the flu or they have to euthanize the entire 2738 02:43:34,800 --> 02:43:40,470 flock. And you know, the vectors and all this are usually 2739 02:43:40,470 --> 02:43:44,040 migratory birds. So we're in an area there's a goose right 2740 02:43:44,040 --> 02:43:48,840 nearby, but I'm a little scared so I didn't go too close to our 2741 02:43:48,840 --> 02:43:51,540 feet. But this is an area of Montreal where a lot of geese 2742 02:43:51,540 --> 02:43:56,340 come by and the birds are the vectors in this they end up 2743 02:43:56,340 --> 02:44:00,840 going to those farms and infecting rather even if it's 2744 02:44:00,840 --> 02:44:05,490 directly or indirectly the domestic fowl 2745 02:44:05,610 --> 02:44:07,830 Adam Curry: we've got to kill the Canadian Geese 2746 02:44:08,940 --> 02:44:11,340 John C Dvorak: they're gonna brat that's that's bad news for 2747 02:44:11,340 --> 02:44:16,620 me. Why? This is what this Albany Berkeley areas were most 2748 02:44:16,620 --> 02:44:22,080 of them come to roost during at some part of the year they just 2749 02:44:22,290 --> 02:44:27,960 blow a day go by the house. Yeah, in in V formation on 2750 02:44:28,080 --> 02:44:28,860 aunque. 2751 02:44:29,070 --> 02:44:31,290 Adam Curry: And you saw you saw the reporter was like, I'm 2752 02:44:31,350 --> 02:44:35,190 afraid I'm not getting too close to this goose over here. Yes, 2753 02:44:35,340 --> 02:44:37,860 the Canadian geese that they are the migrant. They're that 2754 02:44:37,860 --> 02:44:41,970 they're bringing the deadly avian flu. They also get into 2755 02:44:41,970 --> 02:44:42,900 airplane engines. 2756 02:44:42,930 --> 02:44:44,460 John C Dvorak: They're mean birds by the way. 2757 02:44:46,320 --> 02:44:50,820 Adam Curry: One of our producers was on a CDC call earlier in the 2758 02:44:50,820 --> 02:44:55,410 week. And there is now a seventh airport pilot program where the 2759 02:44:55,410 --> 02:45:00,270 CDC once an aircraft lands to another country. You gets 2760 02:45:00,270 --> 02:45:04,170 samples from the laboratory and sends them off to the lab to 2761 02:45:04,170 --> 02:45:07,650 test them for PCR for anything they want to find. 2762 02:45:09,480 --> 02:45:11,820 John C Dvorak: They can find anything they want, as we know 2763 02:45:11,820 --> 02:45:13,620 that the PCR test actly. 2764 02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:19,170 Adam Curry: Exactly. People are sick, so they can do anything 2765 02:45:19,170 --> 02:45:23,910 they want. Oh, deadly avian bird flu. We found it. We just spun 2766 02:45:23,910 --> 02:45:28,410 up the PCR cycles to 50. We found it. We got it for a new 2767 02:45:28,410 --> 02:45:30,120 variant of COVID or whatever they don't 2768 02:45:30,120 --> 02:45:31,890 John C Dvorak: know. I think the P I think you're probably right 2769 02:45:31,890 --> 02:45:35,640 about because they gotta change the messaging every so often. 2770 02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:39,270 And we've been primed. Don't forget that. Yes, we've been 2771 02:45:39,270 --> 02:45:42,630 primed for bird flu for at least a decade. 2772 02:45:44,820 --> 02:45:47,190 Adam Curry: Ah, all right, one more and then we'll take our 2773 02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:53,370 final break here. This is about the fabulous weight loss drugs 2774 02:45:54,000 --> 02:45:58,560 including ozempic and there's a new thing here. Now this is from 2775 02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:01,260 our friend Becky Worley who did this report on Good Morning 2776 02:46:01,260 --> 02:46:03,660 America. Have you seen Becky recently? 2777 02:46:05,070 --> 02:46:09,870 John C Dvorak: Not in person now. On the TV? Oh, no. No, 2778 02:46:10,050 --> 02:46:12,570 Adam Curry: we recently we have to talk to her lipstick is too 2779 02:46:12,570 --> 02:46:17,700 dark. It's just it's too dark for for her hair color 2780 02:46:17,700 --> 02:46:19,380 everything what is a she should 2781 02:46:19,380 --> 02:46:23,730 John C Dvorak: have okay, I mean they should have people they 2782 02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:25,230 should have people telling her. 2783 02:46:25,860 --> 02:46:28,140 Adam Curry: She needs her friends like Adam and John who 2784 02:46:28,170 --> 02:46:31,800 knew her a note yet please do is just to you'll see it I'll send 2785 02:46:31,800 --> 02:46:36,300 you the clip is too dark. So she she did a test. A whole piece 2786 02:46:36,300 --> 02:46:39,390 was like six minutes. I cut out all the testimonials in the 2787 02:46:39,390 --> 02:46:41,850 middle but they all say the same thing. Here we go 2788 02:46:41,880 --> 02:46:44,700 Unknown: got our weight loss revolution series to give deep 2789 02:46:44,700 --> 02:46:47,550 dive into the new class of weight loss drugs that have seen 2790 02:46:47,580 --> 02:46:51,270 a meteoric rise in popularity and use. Becky Worley joins us 2791 02:46:51,270 --> 02:46:54,390 now with more on the reported side effects of these drugs and 2792 02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:56,940 what happens to people who are taking them. Good morning, 2793 02:46:57,270 --> 02:46:57,810 Becca. 2794 02:46:58,470 --> 02:47:01,410 Lindsey. Good morning. Yeah, millions of Americans have been 2795 02:47:01,410 --> 02:47:04,980 prescribed injectable weight loss drugs but with one study 2796 02:47:04,980 --> 02:47:09,420 saying 75% of users experienced side effects. We want to know 2797 02:47:09,450 --> 02:47:13,320 how severe they are and people feel like they're worth it. And 2798 02:47:13,320 --> 02:47:16,500 doing my research for this piece. I kept hearing the same 2799 02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:20,430 thing that Lee just said these drugs quiet the food noise or 2800 02:47:20,430 --> 02:47:25,770 the cravings to eat. Lindsay it's a brain and body drug. 2801 02:47:26,760 --> 02:47:29,400 Back into piece also mentioned things like nausea and GI 2802 02:47:29,400 --> 02:47:32,490 issues, you have the possibility for more serious side effects as 2803 02:47:32,490 --> 02:47:32,820 well. 2804 02:47:34,080 --> 02:47:37,770 Well, the makers of ozempic we go via and Manjaro say if you 2805 02:47:37,770 --> 02:47:40,380 experience any side effects, you need to contact your health care 2806 02:47:40,380 --> 02:47:44,610 provider. Your question there are no reported irreversible 2807 02:47:44,610 --> 02:47:48,000 side effects associated with using these drugs. However, 2808 02:47:48,030 --> 02:47:52,800 thyroid tumors did appear in lab tests of the three drugs on mice 2809 02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:55,380 and rats so people with personal or family history of thyroid 2810 02:47:55,380 --> 02:47:58,170 cancer should avoid them. One more thing we should mention 2811 02:47:58,170 --> 02:48:01,110 these drugs are often not covered by insurance and can be 2812 02:48:01,110 --> 02:48:04,200 costly. I wouldn't have more on that later this week. 2813 02:48:04,230 --> 02:48:07,710 Adam Curry: It's a brain and body drug. It calms down the 2814 02:48:07,710 --> 02:48:11,970 food noise inside your head. What is this stuff doing to you? 2815 02:48:16,530 --> 02:48:18,480 That can't be good. That can't be good. 2816 02:48:18,510 --> 02:48:21,000 John C Dvorak: No, of course not. It's just a diabetic drug 2817 02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:23,520 for people with really bad diabetes. 2818 02:48:24,120 --> 02:48:28,020 Adam Curry: And you know what it is? It's magic, John, it's 2819 02:48:28,020 --> 02:48:28,860 magic. 2820 02:48:29,519 --> 02:48:32,309 Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. 2821 02:48:32,369 --> 02:48:35,519 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 2822 02:48:42,960 --> 02:48:44,910 John C Dvorak: actually have a really short list today for 2823 02:48:44,910 --> 02:48:50,250 people to thank but let's start by thanking Zachary be in line 2824 02:48:50,250 --> 02:48:55,260 or lino liner Lakes, Minnesota nuts. He needs a D douching. 2825 02:48:55,290 --> 02:49:05,100 Cookie. Sorry, you must consider d deuced. He says he also wants 2826 02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:13,140 to call out Jesse B of Minnesota as a douchebag. Onward with Liz 2827 02:49:13,350 --> 02:49:18,960 Meuser Meuser in San Ramon California, saying she needs a 2828 02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:23,250 dedeaux she, she needs weight. She needs her husband Andy de 2829 02:49:23,250 --> 02:49:31,140 Deus. You've been de deuced she claims that he punched her in 2830 02:49:31,140 --> 02:49:32,430 the face. Oh, no, 2831 02:49:32,430 --> 02:49:34,410 Adam Curry: it's not right. That's wrong. That's wrong. 2832 02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:35,760 Wrong. Wrong. Man. 2833 02:49:36,180 --> 02:49:39,450 John C Dvorak: William Spratt, Marietta, Georgia. Oh, she came 2834 02:49:39,450 --> 02:49:43,920 in with 133 By the way, and Zachary was 150 William Spratt 2835 02:49:43,920 --> 02:49:48,780 came in at 125. And he's got a Happy Mother's Day I mentioned 2836 02:49:48,780 --> 02:49:56,850 for Erica and Souquet. See there's anything there is a 2837 02:49:56,850 --> 02:49:59,970 Mother's Day donation. Sir lavish in Concord, California. 2838 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,390 on a one to one Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico 100. 2839 02:50:03,390 --> 02:50:10,350 Shane, wearing gow wearing God in Byron Center Michigan 100 2840 02:50:11,550 --> 02:50:15,390 greatness in the newsletter I like that. Dame Laura in 2841 02:50:15,390 --> 02:50:20,310 Sammamish, Washington 100 and some birthday call out to Sir 2842 02:50:20,310 --> 02:50:27,330 Austin. America needs us. Bowman Bauman are Bowman McMahon in San 2843 02:50:27,330 --> 02:50:32,370 Antonio 9777. Kevin McLaughlin doesn't miss out on any show 2844 02:50:32,370 --> 02:50:38,760 ever with otter Lucas North Carolina for show 1556 808 Love 2845 02:50:38,760 --> 02:50:43,860 her boobs to Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois. 606 also 2846 02:50:43,860 --> 02:50:49,260 boobs. Andray pit you Pete You helped me awesome. Sorry, he's 2847 02:50:49,260 --> 02:50:59,130 in. Lambs dunk severe. He's Andre peed you. Nailed it. 606 2848 02:50:59,160 --> 02:51:03,000 is in Holland. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey. 2849 02:51:03,000 --> 02:51:07,590 5510. Richard Futter, Sir Richard in London 2510 Dean 2850 02:51:07,590 --> 02:51:17,580 rocker 2510 Dustin Voss sermon in Ashland, Oregon 5395. sugar 2851 02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:23,760 melts and goes away but vinegar lasts forever. Okay, Danny Rick 2852 02:51:23,760 --> 02:51:34,980 zoo in turn rumbled Trumbull, Connecticut $50.50. Fill up blue 2853 02:51:34,980 --> 02:51:39,090 in Louisville, Kentucky. $50. And the rest of these are $50. 2854 02:51:39,090 --> 02:51:43,260 Reagan I had that many here. Starting off with easy 2855 02:51:43,260 --> 02:51:48,150 landscapes in North Stonington. Connecticut. You have landscape 2856 02:51:48,150 --> 02:51:53,520 needs go there. Kelly MacDill and Mission Hills, Kansas Chris 2857 02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:57,720 Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Mike who's been with 2858 02:51:57,720 --> 02:52:01,470 the show forever, Sir Chris. Yeah. Michael Thompson in new 2859 02:52:01,470 --> 02:52:07,680 brown fells Texas. Big pop up productions in Minneapolis, 2860 02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:14,310 Minnesota. Go there for all your production needs. Peter odo in 2861 02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:18,600 orig New York Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee Joan pulse 2862 02:52:19,050 --> 02:52:23,100 in Hernando Beach, Florida Stephen Schumacher in Xenia, 2863 02:52:23,100 --> 02:52:28,200 Ohio Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Sir Scott 2864 02:52:28,200 --> 02:52:32,040 lavender in Montgomery, Texas Alexandre ver de novo in Gig 2865 02:52:32,040 --> 02:52:36,930 Harbor, Washington and last but not least, gadget freak 10 in 2866 02:52:36,930 --> 02:52:40,200 Western Springs, Illinois. I want to thank these people for 2867 02:52:40,560 --> 02:52:43,590 being producers and helping this show get produced in the first 2868 02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:45,600 place. This is show 1556 2869 02:52:45,660 --> 02:52:47,940 Adam Curry: And thank you to everyone under 54 reasons of 2870 02:52:47,940 --> 02:52:51,270 anonymity or one of the many many sustaining donations that 2871 02:52:51,270 --> 02:52:55,650 you can join up for or even create your own Learn more here 2872 02:52:55,680 --> 02:53:00,930 for.org/and And a gold calm for anybody who might need it out 2873 02:53:00,930 --> 02:53:01,860 there. You've got. 2874 02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:16,020 The no agenda birthday same Laura wishes sir Austin Barrett 2875 02:53:16,020 --> 02:53:19,350 of the Puget Sound a belated Happy Birthday celebrated on May 2876 02:53:19,350 --> 02:53:23,970 12. Eric Mackey up his birthday tomorrow. No today actually the 2877 02:53:23,970 --> 02:53:28,530 80s and Jay was just reading a happy birthday turns 29 today 2878 02:53:28,680 --> 02:53:31,800 and Ryan Jones wishes his daughter Kayla a happy birthday 2879 02:53:31,800 --> 02:53:34,530 turning three years old tomorrow. Happy birthday from 2880 02:53:34,530 --> 02:53:37,170 everybody here the best podcast in the universe 2881 02:53:46,320 --> 02:53:49,830 don't want to be induced on title change today goes to sure 2882 02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:53,700 fill up the Blue Grass who pointed up another $1,000 which 2883 02:53:53,700 --> 02:53:57,240 we love very much. Thank you, sir. And he becomes a Baronet 2884 02:53:57,240 --> 02:54:01,410 today and we appreciate that. baronet's sir Phil of the 2885 02:54:01,410 --> 02:54:06,270 bluegrass. Now before we get to our nights and Dame we have note 2886 02:54:06,270 --> 02:54:09,990 here from our layaway night Carl marble. He says John Adams had 2887 02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:13,980 been on the $4 week plan since 2018. At my latest calculation, 2888 02:54:13,980 --> 02:54:18,420 I crossed the $1,000 threshold 11 weeks ago, and he provided a 2889 02:54:18,420 --> 02:54:22,140 CSV file. Thank you. I am recovering physicists that sold 2890 02:54:22,140 --> 02:54:25,410 out and went into computing. I'd been a dude named Ben, a manager 2891 02:54:25,410 --> 02:54:28,380 of dudes and dudettes named Ben and now a director of managers 2892 02:54:28,380 --> 02:54:32,340 who manages dudes and dudettes named Ben and Bernadette working 2893 02:54:32,340 --> 02:54:35,250 in Silicon Valley companies until 2015. I saw the corporate 2894 02:54:35,250 --> 02:54:39,210 woke mind virus coming complete with canceling of people and it 2895 02:54:39,210 --> 02:54:43,170 is evil. Well, it was a good four to five years before equity 2896 02:54:43,170 --> 02:54:46,740 showed up at my new gig. You guys provide a sane perspective 2897 02:54:46,740 --> 02:54:49,440 on the media and its masturbatory effects at self 2898 02:54:49,470 --> 02:54:53,280 aggrandizement and pled mind control along with a lot of 2899 02:54:53,280 --> 02:54:56,940 laughs and just overall positive energy. That's awesome. Adam, 2900 02:54:56,940 --> 02:54:59,250 your professionalism of your profession of faith is very 2901 02:54:59,250 --> 02:55:03,420 powerful. It I'm a Christian, and your introduction of mlf.org 2902 02:55:03,420 --> 02:55:06,600 on no agenda set me in motion to do God's work effectively and 2903 02:55:06,600 --> 02:55:09,810 not to be bothered starting out small. There are many so many 2904 02:55:10,110 --> 02:55:12,870 broken people who need God's help. Can you please send me 2905 02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:15,810 some goat karma and play Yoko Ono's Great Gig in the Sky 2906 02:55:15,810 --> 02:55:18,660 performance at the roundtable. You would like to have rye 2907 02:55:18,660 --> 02:55:22,830 whiskey and shady schoon not familiar with the Shady Glen 2908 02:55:22,830 --> 02:55:27,630 licorice chip ice cream that we ordered that people never heard 2909 02:55:27,630 --> 02:55:28,740 Unknown: of it. They ordered 2910 02:55:28,740 --> 02:55:32,430 Adam Curry: it they got something somehow Yes, we can 2911 02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:37,440 see a shout out to his fellow slaves from the Red 33 Red 33 2912 02:55:37,440 --> 02:55:41,220 Boston meetup Nate Lee and Paul and my request the title is Sir 2913 02:55:41,220 --> 02:55:45,360 Carl with a K of the missing semicolon love as light Carl 2914 02:55:45,360 --> 02:55:49,170 marble All right, so we got Carl on deck along with a couple 2915 02:55:49,170 --> 02:55:53,730 other people we have two other nights including my my my 2916 02:55:53,730 --> 02:55:56,910 periodontist and one Dame so let's get out of blade here 2917 02:55:56,910 --> 02:56:02,550 John. Here you go. You sure that's the one you want to pull? 2918 02:56:03,030 --> 02:56:07,890 Definitely want to have here. Okay on there we go. Kellyanne 2919 02:56:07,890 --> 02:56:11,850 Conway come on up the podium anonymous Mitchell pump start 2920 02:56:11,850 --> 02:56:15,660 and Carl marble all of you have now become night and day of the 2921 02:56:15,660 --> 02:56:17,940 no agenda roundtable thanks to your contribution the amount of 2922 02:56:17,940 --> 02:56:21,510 $1,000 more we could not be more happy and I'm very proud to 2923 02:56:21,510 --> 02:56:26,100 pronounce the k d as Dame Kelly of the longest islands. Sir 2924 02:56:26,100 --> 02:56:29,190 Dirty Dan the garbage man consumer of raw milk denier 2925 02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:32,850 science and ally of the unvaccinated sir Dr. Captain 2926 02:56:32,850 --> 02:56:36,210 Maverick and Sir Carl with a K of the missing semicolon for 2927 02:56:36,210 --> 02:56:39,270 you. We've got Booker's and blow rent boys in Chardonnay dirty 2928 02:56:39,270 --> 02:56:42,390 martini and some expensive blue cheese rye whiskey and JD Glen 2929 02:56:42,390 --> 02:56:45,270 liquors chippers ice cream, we've got to ginger ale and 2930 02:56:45,270 --> 02:56:47,760 turbo sparkling cider and escorts bong hits and bourbon 2931 02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:51,990 and of course, the requisite mutton and Mead. Go ahead, head 2932 02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:56,340 over to no agenda rings.com and select your ring size, give us 2933 02:56:56,340 --> 02:56:59,490 an address to send it to and we'll gladly send those off to 2934 02:56:59,490 --> 02:57:02,970 you. Congratulations to all of you and welcome to the 2935 02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:06,570 roundtable of the no agenda. Nate's Nate's Knights and Dames. 2936 02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:08,970 Good to have you here. Know what a 2937 02:57:15,510 --> 02:57:18,840 lot of people still buzzing about the big Austin meetup and 2938 02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:22,740 Baron Scott was able to throw together a meetup report which 2939 02:57:22,740 --> 02:57:26,580 I'm going to be happy to play here. Christine, aka Mr. Scott. 2940 02:57:27,150 --> 02:57:29,700 I'm so glad everyone's here. This is great. In the morning. 2941 02:57:29,940 --> 02:57:32,640 Hey, this is Alex with the Austin meetup. This is Sir Chris 2942 02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:33,420 Callen Baron 2943 02:57:33,420 --> 02:57:35,310 Unknown: in North Austin. This is Brendan for local 2944 02:57:35,310 --> 02:57:37,080 five folks. Hey, this is Chris bag. 2945 02:57:37,740 --> 02:57:41,370 In the morning, Greg here from buna Texas in the morning. This 2946 02:57:41,370 --> 02:57:42,120 is Cynthia, 2947 02:57:42,210 --> 02:57:47,160 this is danger ninja aka Councilwoman Kelly it is nice to 2948 02:57:47,160 --> 02:57:49,980 seek asylum at a no agenda meetup 2949 02:57:50,550 --> 02:57:55,320 as Jason did a bit I'm lost in Austin and no TNC bots today. 2950 02:57:55,710 --> 02:57:59,610 This mark this is Minister cat does Mr. Robot hey this is 2951 02:57:59,610 --> 02:58:00,090 Pastor 2952 02:58:00,090 --> 02:58:02,520 Jimmy hanging out with Adam curry. 2953 02:58:02,700 --> 02:58:07,950 Rachel OC sir Brian with an eye here with Sir C sharp of dotnet 2954 02:58:07,950 --> 02:58:11,220 here just a Rob here. This has been from Best stroke. This is 2955 02:58:11,220 --> 02:58:12,990 the moss and Karen 2956 02:58:14,700 --> 02:58:16,080 Gordon wall Baron 2957 02:58:16,110 --> 02:58:19,350 surge on loan at the Austin meetups is Casey wasty Williams 2958 02:58:19,350 --> 02:58:20,340 from San Antonio 2959 02:58:22,650 --> 02:58:26,730 in the morning from Louisiana hashtag go South Dakota My 2960 02:58:26,730 --> 02:58:31,410 pronouns are queso and Jeff thanks to Scott Adam. Everybody 2961 02:58:31,410 --> 02:58:35,010 I'm loving it here. Adam curry for the first time dudes pretty 2962 02:58:35,010 --> 02:58:36,810 sick. Where 2963 02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:41,880 Adam Curry: here's the no agenda okey who we who we meet up he 2964 02:58:41,880 --> 02:58:44,400 Unknown: James here. There's gooey gooey meet up right now 2965 02:58:44,430 --> 02:58:47,280 happening. Adam and John you're the best this is David Cassidy 2966 02:58:47,310 --> 02:58:48,750 never stopped in the morning. 2967 02:58:48,780 --> 02:58:53,520 I am not a spook in the morning. I do believe I will say we're 2968 02:58:53,520 --> 02:58:58,860 having a good time. Hey guys, Dave here, John. Turn your 2969 02:58:58,860 --> 02:58:59,490 speakers up. 2970 02:58:59,700 --> 02:59:02,610 We'd love to see you guys at an Oklahoma meet up come to 2971 02:59:02,610 --> 02:59:04,470 Oklahoma. Hey Dan, come 2972 02:59:04,470 --> 02:59:07,590 to Oklahoma. It's not that far. Hannah may one Whelan 2973 02:59:07,590 --> 02:59:09,030 millennial, probably the spook 2974 02:59:10,140 --> 02:59:13,980 surprise your night of astonishment at a new living by 2975 02:59:13,980 --> 02:59:15,210 Baja Oklahoma. COVID. 2976 02:59:15,210 --> 02:59:21,330 Adam Curry: See us sometime. Yeah. We send everybody to 2977 02:59:21,330 --> 02:59:24,690 Oklahoma. Tell him it's also Texas. All right. Thank you. Two 2978 02:59:24,690 --> 02:59:27,270 other written reports. One from the it was the second northwest 2979 02:59:27,270 --> 02:59:30,510 Houston meetup from Barron's or economic hitman. He says it was 2980 02:59:30,510 --> 02:59:33,600 a big success. He had the famous Rolando Gonzalez and his wife 2981 02:59:33,600 --> 02:59:38,430 Sarah, as well as Brian aka speedskater and his family. It 2982 02:59:38,430 --> 02:59:40,770 was raining pretty hard, unfortunately. So gray night 2983 02:59:40,800 --> 02:59:44,340 couldn't find us who tried to join and the Portland Oregon 2984 02:59:44,340 --> 02:59:49,020 meet up the surf soiree, which just Steph Steph held at her 2985 02:59:49,020 --> 02:59:52,140 house about 13 blocks from their usual slave story hanging out 2986 02:59:52,140 --> 02:59:55,440 Dick's primal burger. After weeks of 50 degrees and rain the 2987 02:59:55,440 --> 02:59:58,110 weather finally cooperated. They had a wonderful evening sitting 2988 02:59:58,110 --> 03:00:01,020 on the deck enjoying beer and barbecue Do burgers and broths 2989 03:00:01,020 --> 03:00:04,170 and completely not mellow Great Dane and a mellow little lap 2990 03:00:04,170 --> 03:00:07,170 dog. Amazing to realize most of the group has known each other 2991 03:00:07,170 --> 03:00:11,430 for more than two years now. One person has only ever come to our 2992 03:00:11,430 --> 03:00:15,810 meetup once. And it was great to see him back. A great success. 2993 03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:18,660 This is what these meetups are. They're fantastic to be a part 2994 03:00:18,660 --> 03:00:22,410 of. And here's her lavish who just donated with a promo for 2995 03:00:22,410 --> 03:00:23,790 the next meetup. He's hosting. 2996 03:00:26,940 --> 03:00:32,430 Unknown: No, no, no agenda Meetup is two days. certifies 2997 03:00:32,430 --> 03:00:37,170 independence Concord East Bay meetup San Francisco Oakland 2998 03:00:37,170 --> 03:00:48,390 Sacramento comes to my meetup seven VM grenade is in the mail 2999 03:00:48,420 --> 03:00:48,930 John 3000 03:00:53,160 --> 03:00:55,710 Adam Curry: yes indeed the North Idaho Sandy brigade Third 3001 03:00:55,710 --> 03:00:59,280 Thursday meet up is kicks off today at five o'clock in Selkirk 3002 03:00:59,280 --> 03:01:02,520 Abby post Idaho Falls the divided and conquered East Bay 3003 03:01:02,520 --> 03:01:06,360 meet up seven at the hop grenade Concord, California. Charlotte's 3004 03:01:06,360 --> 03:01:09,390 Thursday Third Thursday monthly meet up at seven edge tavern 3005 03:01:09,390 --> 03:01:13,620 Charlotte, North Carolina. The second leg and amygdala checkup 3006 03:01:13,620 --> 03:01:17,220 is well underway if not over the Staats Brauhaus in Laden in late 3007 03:01:17,220 --> 03:01:20,970 in the Netherlands on Saturday, the London limited hangout 230 3008 03:01:20,970 --> 03:01:24,600 British time the gypsy moth and Greenwich gypsy moth Greenwich 3009 03:01:24,600 --> 03:01:28,800 in London, the star chamber of Idaho on Saturday at El Mariachi 3010 03:01:28,800 --> 03:01:33,360 and star Idaho. The last chance grip and grin 330 At the last 3011 03:01:33,360 --> 03:01:36,300 chance pub and cider mill in Billings, Montana. Also on 3012 03:01:36,300 --> 03:01:38,760 Saturday, the New York City no agenda drinking club gets 3013 03:01:38,760 --> 03:01:41,940 together at four o'clock at Ocean smart Sports Bar and Grill 3014 03:01:42,060 --> 03:01:45,960 brownstone Billiards in Brooklyn. That should be fun. A 3015 03:01:45,960 --> 03:01:48,810 lot of meetups this Saturday, the Steel City potluck meet up 3016 03:01:48,810 --> 03:01:52,530 at fourth private house so make sure you talk to me about that. 3017 03:01:53,190 --> 03:01:55,860 Spot the spook five o'clock at the west end grill in 3018 03:01:55,860 --> 03:01:59,100 Huntsville, Alabama. On Sunday our next show day we're still 3019 03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:03,030 here 505 meet up one o'clock at Urban 360 Pizza in Albuquerque 3020 03:02:03,030 --> 03:02:06,300 New Mexico that's our very own nights with Jeff tow AIG hosting 3021 03:02:06,300 --> 03:02:09,930 that the crossroads of America tribes Southside prodigy edition 3022 03:02:09,930 --> 03:02:13,050 three o'clock at prodigy burger and bar Indianapolis, Indiana 3023 03:02:13,290 --> 03:02:17,970 and the final one for Sunday the Bitcoin Pizza Day 220 23 330 3024 03:02:17,970 --> 03:02:21,960 Central Rotolo is pizza in Longview Texas your organizer 3025 03:02:21,960 --> 03:02:25,350 there sir dirty Jersey whore those the no agenda meetup just 3026 03:02:25,350 --> 03:02:27,870 a couple of them for the next few days they're everywhere all 3027 03:02:27,870 --> 03:02:30,990 around the world almost every single day to find out more go 3028 03:02:30,990 --> 03:02:37,470 to no agenda meetup.com Guaranteed always a party with 3029 03:02:43,260 --> 03:02:58,290 me you see is like a big ask party really big party, big 3030 03:02:58,290 --> 03:03:03,420 party. Crew lot of meetups just crazy. People love in their 3031 03:03:03,420 --> 03:03:10,410 meetups. Don't I mean are you still alive? I'm right here. All 3032 03:03:10,410 --> 03:03:13,230 right, I'm gonna give you my two choices for ISO here's number 3033 03:03:13,230 --> 03:03:13,590 one. 3034 03:03:13,620 --> 03:03:16,020 Unknown: Everybody in Washington gets all we don't. 3035 03:03:16,590 --> 03:03:19,590 Adam Curry: I'd never heard this font from Obama. I kind of liked 3036 03:03:19,590 --> 03:03:23,550 it. And here's Schwarzenegger who's out on the climate trail. 3037 03:03:23,880 --> 03:03:26,430 Climate change trail again, climate it's time it's time it's 3038 03:03:26,430 --> 03:03:27,480 time to time exam exam. 3039 03:03:29,250 --> 03:03:31,200 John C Dvorak: That's all I got. Was it? Yeah, that's all I got. 3040 03:03:32,190 --> 03:03:37,470 Alright, I have one the candidates is Michael Douglas. 3041 03:03:37,500 --> 03:03:40,260 He went he got an award for lifetime achievement award at 3042 03:03:40,260 --> 03:03:41,070 Cannes, 3043 03:03:41,160 --> 03:03:42,210 Adam Curry: Cannes. 3044 03:03:42,720 --> 03:03:46,410 John C Dvorak: That comes Holland Khan's comps at Cannes. 3045 03:03:46,410 --> 03:03:50,430 And so he does so that he gave me an ISO. All right, 3046 03:03:50,640 --> 03:03:52,320 Adam Curry: Michael, come on in. 3047 03:03:52,470 --> 03:03:53,700 John C Dvorak: And Merci beaucoup. 3048 03:03:56,760 --> 03:04:00,000 Adam Curry: I mean, I like it. Merci. Merci beaucoup. To you 3049 03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:05,790 too, sir. I like it as good. We can take that one. 3050 03:04:06,570 --> 03:04:08,340 John C Dvorak: What are we up and go out with one clip? 3051 03:04:08,370 --> 03:04:11,100 Adam Curry: Alright, three. We got three bucks and four and 40 3052 03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:12,510 cents. Let's go watch a clip. 3053 03:04:13,290 --> 03:04:17,100 John C Dvorak: This is a tribute attribute clip. No. I'm Claire 3054 03:04:17,100 --> 03:04:22,830 Daly. Car friend. Yes. socialist communist. She's a real one, 3055 03:04:22,830 --> 03:04:28,500 though. Oh, gee, yeah. Claire de Leon, Julian Assange. 3056 03:04:28,740 --> 03:04:31,350 Unknown: Pretty impressive that the parliament has swung into 3057 03:04:31,350 --> 03:04:35,430 action. So quickly in relation to the case of anti Putin, anti 3058 03:04:35,430 --> 03:04:38,940 Ukrainian war journalists flood Mayor Karen Morrison, who was 3059 03:04:38,940 --> 03:04:44,010 given a 25 year prison sentence this week for his journalism. A 3060 03:04:44,010 --> 03:04:50,100 sentence rightly slammed by the EU as outrageously harsh is is 3061 03:04:50,310 --> 03:04:54,810 but it's still 150 years less than Julian Assange will get if 3062 03:04:54,810 --> 03:04:59,400 he's convicted and prosecuted in the US for his anti war 3063 03:04:59,400 --> 03:05:03,570 journalism. exposing us war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. 3064 03:05:04,050 --> 03:05:07,950 He's been in prison for over four years. Tonight. He's pre 3065 03:05:07,950 --> 03:05:11,700 freedom for many more yet we've never had one of these 3066 03:05:11,700 --> 03:05:15,960 discussions in here calling for his release. We've never had one 3067 03:05:15,960 --> 03:05:19,740 discussion about the case of Pablo Gonzalez imprisoned in 3068 03:05:19,740 --> 03:05:23,970 Poland for the last year for his anti war journalism. Unless 3069 03:05:23,970 --> 03:05:27,900 we're consistent in these motions, they're nothing more 3070 03:05:27,900 --> 03:05:32,460 than meaningless geopolitical Shams the instrumentalisation of 3071 03:05:32,460 --> 03:05:37,020 human rights for political ends that is not good enough. You 3072 03:05:37,020 --> 03:05:37,200 know, 3073 03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:40,080 Adam Curry: I like her and I think what she says of course is 3074 03:05:40,080 --> 03:05:43,380 spot on but she doesn't have that. That see needs the humor 3075 03:05:43,380 --> 03:05:50,130 element that that our boy had. Faraj Faraj Faraj had something 3076 03:05:50,130 --> 03:05:53,250 good there that just was a little extra, a little extra 3077 03:05:53,250 --> 03:05:53,820 thing. He 3078 03:05:53,820 --> 03:05:56,970 John C Dvorak: had it a different kind of disdain and 3079 03:05:56,970 --> 03:06:01,230 kind of an upper class. British disdain she needs to do she has 3080 03:06:01,230 --> 03:06:04,800 kind of a middle class Irish to stay. It's not the same Scots 3081 03:06:04,800 --> 03:06:05,220 Irish. 3082 03:06:05,850 --> 03:06:10,110 Adam Curry: It's missing some The X Factor. I mean, it is 3083 03:06:10,110 --> 03:06:13,110 missing the X Factor. Curry Devorah Consulting Group can 3084 03:06:13,110 --> 03:06:16,050 help you out ma'am. Give us a call deck Becky Warli. Same 3085 03:06:16,050 --> 03:06:19,740 thing. We're good. We're good to help everybody. End of show 3086 03:06:19,740 --> 03:06:23,520 mixes tyrannical list. Tom Starkweather. Sir Michael 3087 03:06:23,520 --> 03:06:28,950 Anthony. And coming up next on no agenda stream. rare encounter 3088 03:06:28,950 --> 03:06:34,800 with cold acid and Abel Kirby. Oh, man, I don't know what what 3089 03:06:34,800 --> 03:06:37,410 they're doing today. They do all kinds of nutty stuff on the 3090 03:06:37,410 --> 03:06:40,350 stream. That's no agenda stream.com, the troll room.io 3091 03:06:40,350 --> 03:06:43,350 And all of those modern podcast apps coming to you from the 3092 03:06:43,350 --> 03:06:47,370 heart of the Texas hill country. Here in FEMA Region number six 3093 03:06:47,370 --> 03:06:49,260 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 3094 03:06:49,350 --> 03:06:51,600 John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. 3095 03:06:51,600 --> 03:06:51,960 Devorah. 3096 03:06:51,990 --> 03:06:56,310 Adam Curry: We will return on Sunday with another fun packed 3097 03:06:56,310 --> 03:07:00,120 jam packed show full of deconstruction just for you. 3098 03:07:00,960 --> 03:07:05,550 It's what we do. Remember us at DeVore act.org/na Until then, 3099 03:07:05,550 --> 03:07:09,570 adios mofos a hui Hui Pena such. 3100 03:07:13,170 --> 03:07:17,970 Unknown: This is Paris's first zero carbon neighborhood in 3101 03:07:17,970 --> 03:07:22,920 Eleuthera to our fertile Island. Four buildings surround a 3102 03:07:22,920 --> 03:07:27,510 central garden. Within this small locality. You can live 3103 03:07:27,600 --> 03:07:34,590 work shop, or play sports. It's built on a 1.3 hectare former 3104 03:07:34,590 --> 03:07:39,720 industrial site bordered by railway tracks. I wonder why 3105 03:07:39,720 --> 03:07:44,820 we'll need those. The buildings are made from locally sourced 3106 03:07:44,820 --> 03:07:49,080 materials and low carbon concrete. They are designed to 3107 03:07:49,080 --> 03:07:54,090 minimize the need for heating and cooling. Heat pumps extract 3108 03:07:54,090 --> 03:07:59,130 the warmth from grey water that is from showers, sinks and 3109 03:07:59,130 --> 03:08:03,510 washing machine and use it to provide hot water around the 3110 03:08:03,510 --> 03:08:08,280 site. Swipe left for more. I'm the theoretical list. 3111 03:08:10,320 --> 03:08:14,040 John C Dvorak: I would like to make some commentary about this. 3112 03:08:14,130 --> 03:08:14,910 Okay, first of all, 3113 03:08:14,910 --> 03:08:16,140 Adam Curry: she sounds like a great mom. 3114 03:08:16,560 --> 03:08:18,630 John C Dvorak: Sounds a great mom is going to help her to be 3115 03:08:18,630 --> 03:08:19,680 drinking kombucha. 3116 03:08:20,370 --> 03:08:22,710 Adam Curry: So you're not you're not a fan of the common? 3117 03:08:23,010 --> 03:08:24,690 John C Dvorak: Well, you know, the great the great 3118 03:08:24,720 --> 03:08:28,110 microbiologist that used to teach at Evergreen up in 3119 03:08:28,110 --> 03:08:30,630 Washington who is now a freelancer says the problem with 3120 03:08:30,630 --> 03:08:34,650 Kombucha is you don't know what's in it, and it 3121 03:08:36,450 --> 03:08:37,200 Adam Curry: could kill you. 3122 03:08:38,370 --> 03:08:40,110 John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know that it killed anybody, but 3123 03:08:40,110 --> 03:08:46,500 it could give you all kinds of issues. I and most cambogia now 3124 03:08:46,500 --> 03:08:49,950 it's just vinegar water. They don't even give you real Kim 3125 03:08:49,950 --> 03:08:55,170 Bucha is because the thing that the mother that grows in it is a 3126 03:08:55,200 --> 03:09:02,160 combination of weird stuff that is not it's not reproducible. 3127 03:09:02,190 --> 03:09:03,480 That's a real problem. Oh, you 3128 03:09:03,480 --> 03:09:06,150 Adam Curry: mean it's not? You can't reproduce it with 3129 03:09:06,210 --> 03:09:07,020 accuracy. 3130 03:09:07,710 --> 03:09:09,690 John C Dvorak: Right? Yeah, we can. Bucha is gonna be a little 3131 03:09:09,690 --> 03:09:12,210 different. And it's going to be who knows where it's headed. 3132 03:09:12,210 --> 03:09:15,660 It's not those are not friendly bacteria, necessarily, 3133 03:09:15,690 --> 03:09:17,010 Adam Curry: you know what you should do? You should consider 3134 03:09:17,010 --> 03:09:19,410 writing a book about this. You know, I was gonna do a book on 3135 03:09:19,410 --> 03:09:19,830 vinegar. 3136 03:09:20,490 --> 03:09:21,330 John C Dvorak: I'll get back to that. 3137 03:09:21,840 --> 03:09:25,260 Unknown: My fellow New Yorkers, I have a confession to make. The 3138 03:09:25,260 --> 03:09:31,290 truth is, this is hard to admit, but your mayor is mentally ill. 3139 03:09:31,380 --> 03:09:36,540 I cannot take care of my own basic needs. No matter how much 3140 03:09:36,540 --> 03:09:41,130 people try to help me. I absolutely refuse to eat meat. 3141 03:09:41,220 --> 03:09:46,110 My Other symptoms include being a Democrat and illusions of 3142 03:09:46,110 --> 03:09:50,820 swagger. So to demonstrate the effectiveness of my supporters 3143 03:09:50,820 --> 03:09:55,350 interventions act, I'm gonna be the first mental patient to be 3144 03:09:55,350 --> 03:10:00,990 involuntarily hospitalized under my own policies by all Personal 3145 03:10:00,990 --> 03:10:08,310 police detail. They didn't arrest me. Oh, shoot. Man, 3146 03:10:08,340 --> 03:10:13,320 you're under arrest. Y'all can't arrest me. I'm the mayor. Come 3147 03:10:13,320 --> 03:10:18,300 with us, sir. No, I don't who wants to go and shift 3148 03:10:27,630 --> 03:10:32,640 Adam Curry: yo MoPhO vorak.org/in a. 3149 03:10:33,690 --> 03:10:34,950 John C Dvorak: Merci beaucoup.