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John C Dvorak: You're outta
control. Adam curry, John C.

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Devora.

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Adam Curry: June 29 2023. This
Year Award winning nation media

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assassination episode 1568.

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Unknown: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Laughing a grown man
who mean man broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. Number six in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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John C Dvorak: And for Northern
Silicon Valley, where we've all

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concluded that oat milk sucks
and Jhansi Dvorak is

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Adam Curry: kill. Oh man, I even
had a misfire. oatmilk That's

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right. It's not SAP. Did you
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John C Dvorak: Jay seems to have
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allergy from the oat milk normal
non a to milk. Oh, boy. And so

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she's drink she actually likes
oat milk. So she has some oat

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milk and I say you know the
thing is add sugar to it. Don't

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be me. Yeah. No, there's no
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non sugar type taste it

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Adam Curry: but at any point did
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nuts SAP because that's just
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John C Dvorak: Well, oats are
not nuts. So it's not nuts.

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She's not drinking almond milk
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Adam Curry: What is it? Oh, what
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John C Dvorak: It's a sack of
grain of grain. Grain SAP. So I

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taste this stuff without shoot
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God. Is it terrible?

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Adam Curry: I mean, she should
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up with you. She should be
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John C Dvorak: you know, a
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Adam Curry: pancake with a with
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divorce special. With hashbrowns

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John C Dvorak: now you're
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Adam Curry: I know. I know. Hey,
I'm a healthy man. Bacon. Bacon.

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Bacon. You know, I was just
looking at the troll room before

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before we started and the trolls
are. They're they're jittery.

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John C Dvorak: They're out of
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Adam Curry: Yeah, there's so
much going on in the world that

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they they don't know what to do
with themselves. You know, so

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they they meme all day long.
Give me some memes, man. And

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then they say horrible things.
You can just tell what they say.

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That's horrible. Oh, they just
all rap sucks. The show mixes

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suck. This sucks.

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Unknown: Rap sucks.

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John C Dvorak: There's an
original thought. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Anyway, I understand
people are getting all spun up

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over things. So we're here to
spin you down. And this was

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without a doubt the most emailed
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Unknown: CDC is out with a new
health warning after confirming

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five cases of malaria in the US
over the last two months. They

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are the first malaria infections
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locally and not linked to travel
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are in Florida and one in Texas.
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receive treatment and are
recovering. Malaria is serious,

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sometimes deadly disease usually
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not contagious. Malaria to their
babies during pregnancy. Oh,

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Adam Curry: you can pass it to
your babies during pregnant

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Well, I mean, this is what
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which we have been talking about
since episode 830 830. That's

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John C Dvorak: what 2015 2002
identified the episode of some

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Adam Curry: I'm not gonna play
it but you know, but we we've

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been talking about it that long
and actually it goes back much

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further. Where I'll play this
one, the second report and then

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then we'll go back into the
history and we'll talk about the

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what this is and what this
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Unknown: They are the pesky part
of summertime fun. From kids

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camps to backyard barbecues.
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unwanted guest. But this
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warning about mosquito
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comes after state health
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locally acquired malaria cases
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Florida, one in Texas, all
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What was different about this is
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meaning people didn't travel
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then get diagnosed with malaria.
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evidence the case is in the two
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cases were detected in Sarasota
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under a mosquito borne illness
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throwing everything we have at
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symptoms can be similar to the
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as well as headaches and nausea.
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is treatable with the help of
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is urging doctors to be on high
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to physicians to understand that
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for malaria. And it's not
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the key officials say protection
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Adam Curry: Alright, so Okay, so
Oh, five people have malaria by

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the way, people used to get
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Little House on the Prairie she
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John C Dvorak: malaria was a
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through South Carolina with the
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plagued with malaria. How do we
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rid of it? mosquito abatement
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there's a lot of ways right. So
and by the way, by the way, this

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story, I wonder if we could just
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there is not at least this many
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the last decade, exactly. This
no this is what you know, this

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bullcrap that is the first they
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of malaria in Florida of all
places. Every year he has random

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cases, this kind of thing that
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Adam Curry: What is going on
here? Stop stop people. Stop

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calling me Stop calling me I
can't talk. What are they doing?

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That's the periodontist calling.
I got all kinds of stuff going

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on. Don't worry about it.

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John C Dvorak: Turn off the
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remainder. I'm going to take you

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Adam Curry: off the hook. Yes.
So but this is what everyone is

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pointing to. This is 2022 It
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Unknown: like something out of a
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engineer mosquitoes created in a
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part of an experimental effort
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And these biohack bugs could be
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we're on your side investigating
why critics are concerned and

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why the state is poised to
improve to approve even more

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manufactured mosquito.

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Adam Curry: Yes, the
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know who did it.

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Unknown: Since 2021, UK based
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released millions of genetically
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mosquitoes in the Florida Keys,
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release of 2.4 billion more in
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Under an experimental use
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bugs carry a self limiting gene
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the Florida Keys mosquito
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is that males pass the gene to
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meal for from a human at all.
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participants and Mother Nature
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have a waiting list. We have
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their property that do they see
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are excited to be on the cutting
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it's mosquitoes are safe and the
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to people, animals or the
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for non toxic or non allergenic.
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proving these to be effective in
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mosquitoes don't do that. And
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that happening is eliminated
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Adam Curry: So this story has
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and years. No one's gotten
malaria. But now we're all

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jacked up. And it's Bill Gates,
Bill Gates has tried to kill us

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to try to get the mosquito and
he's doing it since 2009. This

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is Bill Gates 2009. At a TED
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Unknown: there's more money put
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into malaria. Now baldness is
it's terrible thing. And Rich

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men are afflicted. And so that's
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But malaria the event the
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malaria greatly understate its
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at any one time are suffering
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the economies in these areas
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holds things back so much. Now
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mosquitoes I brought some here.
So you could experience this

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Adam Curry: You remember that
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those mosquitoes into the TED
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John C Dvorak: we discussed the
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Adam Curry: illegal. Of course,
it's also I mean, well, it's

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John C Dvorak: disease vectors
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purposes of for whatever
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besides beside the point, and he
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Adam Curry: But people didn't
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malaria. And there's been report
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years of these bio Engineered
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concerned, they don't work at
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jacked up. Oh, this is Gates's
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something I think it might be at
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tech, who doesn't know them, the
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for Pfizer, amongst other
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trial to test the malaria
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could be a problem. Because I'm
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know, we kind of, we've looked a
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and we've been, you've been,
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with it to just be beaten like a
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of function in the Wuhan lab.
For this gain of function, ie,

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you know, jacking up stuff in
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causing and will cause a lot of
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following a lot of RFK Jr stuff.
And he had the literal disinfo

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doesn't on a zoom call, you
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all the toppers, all the people
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John C Dvorak: saw the winners,

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Adam Curry: the winners, and he
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Unknown: end all in a function
research, I will, I will sign a

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treaty on the end, again, a
function research to get all the

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nations and get a function
research. It's just a disaster.

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It's been given us no benefits.
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everything from Lyme disease to
COVID, and many, many other

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diseases, and RSV, which is now
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of children and came out of a
vaccine lab, you know, so and we

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can go down the whole list of
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there's good evidence that even
Spanish flu came from facts or

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facts in a vaccine research.
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we'll probably never know, but
the you know, there are very,

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very strong articles suggesting
that now you know, the medical

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research on these diseases. And
vaccine research has actually

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created some of the worst
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anybody who reads the river will
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that HIV also came from, you
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there's plenty of plenty of
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Adam Curry: Bobby J for
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listening to 10 years of no
agenda is phenomenal.

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John C Dvorak: HIV and Ebola
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John C Dvorak: Well, I liked the
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John C Dvorak: are stairs so
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John C Dvorak: the five the I
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John C Dvorak: so she says Oh,
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John C Dvorak: it's just really
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pharma cults. They can't say
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he had a a town hall Town Hall
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Adam Curry: I have. I have one
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whole Big Pharma is just, he's
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early on this is like 12 years
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up the report? Yeah. I'm one of
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that this was a bonanza,
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can make tons of billions of
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liability, where they did who
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the problem, by the way. Oh,
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Adam Curry: I wouldn't boast
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Microsoft. I mean, even I worked
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Adam Curry: so regretful about
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and he was connecting autism to
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it was here's gotta gotta play.
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who I'm sure is calling RFK Jr.
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fact, I could probably just drop
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children. Six out of every 1000
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exactly why. But my next guest
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that he that he thinks needs to
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attorney for the what?

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Adam Curry: He called it a drug.
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Unknown: National Resources
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deadly immunity. In the current
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investigation of the possible
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and autism and young kids. A
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fine aerosol is also running on
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etcetera. They pulled it, they
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of those publications. You
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Unknown: same time on my new
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life of joy. It's a children's
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about the saints, but I couldn't
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computer age children's
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write a book that kind of action
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that would also teach them the
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to the draw. We want to get you
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let's talk tonight about the
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people out there when I was
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to say this. We actually
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lawsuits regarding who

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Adam Curry: even knew that Chuck
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same law firm. This is an
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there are a lot of people, a lot
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about the impact of this drug
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causes autism. It's Mercury

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Adam Curry: is not a drug. It's
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John C Dvorak: Wait, it's a
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aerosol is a preservative that
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1930s. Almost immediately after
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to appear. Autism had never been
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science. Then the vaccines were
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me stop you there. That's an
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you why my son born in 1991, has
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Asperger's. But it seems to and
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law, and also when I was in
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constantly come to me, and
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their children. And they were
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these kids receive 24 vaccines.
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Marisol on them and this
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do an analysis of what the
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children with 400 times the
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EPA considers safe. A child on
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injected with a hepatitis B
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would be have to have to be 275
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2500 American children had
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hyperactivity, that all seem to
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Adam Curry: Yeah, so that goes
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minute piece is unbelievable,
particularly for Chuck

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Scarborough's own kid was
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no, no, Bobby, oh, he's an anti
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lunatic Looney Tunes looney
tune. That's how powerful Big

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Pharma is and what an EPS a part
of that piece that God and i By

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John C Dvorak: way, we should
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Adam Curry: it's from the troll
right now. That's for the

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producer who posted it no agenda
social. That was it was he

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apparently very good, fine. He
posted it on Twitter and he got

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John C Dvorak: for posting that
clip. That clip. Yeah, all they

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Adam Curry: a real real clip.
Yeah, yeah. We can't put in

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Twitter jail because you posted
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our producer. Yes. And so they I
believe it. That article

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would conference where all the a
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pharmaceutical executives and
doctors and researchers, along

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with HMOs they all got together
and they all said Yeah, crap,

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this stuff is crossing the blood
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autism. It's in the transcript,
you can read it. And you know,

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so I was able to get that and
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this is not like it's not an
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Big Pharma just took over just
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Vaxxer anti? Jenny McCarthy?
Yeah. Jenny McCarthy nutjob they

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they excoriated her so badly
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even like her anymore. Because
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first he was all in theory, then
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it's a co owns news nation. News
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John C Dvorak: brought this up a
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Adam Curry: but it's it's owned
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John C Dvorak: WG edge of former
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exist as WGN. Now it's just back
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network that has been upgraded
since a tribune. It has been

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bought and sold and bought and
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guys who want to do more with
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Adam Curry: Yeah, but it's owned
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a
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Adam Curry: Well, then it must
be an interesting group for him

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for them to bring him on. And he
does just have one one clip from

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this from this town hall. He
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interesting here as of course
the news nation news model tries

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to kind of trip him up get him
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Come on, man. You know, I'm up.
You're not fighting fair. You

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lot of support. A lot of leading
voices on the right like Steve

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Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Alex
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John C Dvorak: America. Yeah.
Okay, so I know you hate memes,

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but there's a bunch of them. But
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Adam Curry: I don't hate them. I
just hate people who do dumb

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John C Dvorak: memes. But
there's some great, there's some

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meme showing up now. And I have
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Adam Curry: You need to post
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John C Dvorak: So the meme shows
is got Kennedy holding a sign

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saying I'm a lunatic and I'm not
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I'm being used by the
Republicans to take votes away

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from good old Joe Biden,

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Adam Curry: let's exact is
exactly what she's saying. He or

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she is a giant

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John C Dvorak: Okay, so that
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Democrat strategy. That's what
make him look like he's not

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everybody. This guy. Give me a
break. This guy is such a debt.

446
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:09,990
This is a born and die Democrat.
Period, old school, old school,

447
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,650
old school Democrat, there's no
he would do nothing to help the

448
00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:15,210
republican party ever.

449
00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:17,850
Adam Curry: But they have.
They've spun this into a

450
00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:19,440
strategy. Listen,

451
00:26:19,469 --> 00:26:22,439
Unknown: you say that you're a
Democrat. But you're getting a

452
00:26:22,439 --> 00:26:25,559
lot of support from a lot of
leading voices on the right like

453
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:29,609
Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson,
Alex Jones, former President

454
00:26:29,639 --> 00:26:33,149
Donald Trump. Many Democrats
fear that you're a spoiler in

455
00:26:33,149 --> 00:26:36,389
the race that you will damage
President Biden in the primary

456
00:26:36,389 --> 00:26:39,209
and grease the skids for former
President Trump to grease the

457
00:26:39,209 --> 00:26:42,599
skids who returned to the oval
office this week, former

458
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:46,769
President Trump said about you.
Kennedy is smart. And he's a

459
00:26:46,769 --> 00:26:51,119
common sense guy. What kind of
man do you think? Oh, no,

460
00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:53,610
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. This is she's you see what

461
00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:56,220
she's trying to do here. Like,
come on, come on.

462
00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:58,440
John C Dvorak: This is the
whatever Trump says the

463
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,620
opposite, you know, is the
opposite. Of course. So So say,

464
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800
if Trump says something
complimentary about you, it's

465
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,110
gotta be bad. You're a bad guy.

466
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,220
Unknown: Common Sense guy. What
kind of man do you think Donald

467
00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:12,060
Trump is?

468
00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:17,010
So you know, here's what I'm not
going to do in this race. I'm

469
00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:20,250
not going to attack other
people. Personally, I don't

470
00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:23,400
think it's good for our country.
And I think you know, what I'm

471
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,490
trying to do in this race is
bringing people together, just

472
00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:29,190
to try to bridge the divide
between Americans. And guess

473
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:35,280
what? The one eyed dad died. And
we took this train ride from

474
00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:38,250
this seven and a half hour train
ride that was supposed to be two

475
00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:41,340
hours on Fridays, but I was with
him when he died in Los Angeles,

476
00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:42,600
and then we brought his bike. I
didn't

477
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,100
Adam Curry: actually know that I
didn't know that he was there

478
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:49,320
when he was shot. At the hotel.
Did you know that? No, I did not

479
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:52,020
know. That's kind of traumatic.
And by the way, notice how the

480
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:56,640
news model set him up with Alex
Jones. Tucker Carlson. Oh, no.

481
00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:00,510
John C Dvorak: No, I see. I
haven't like I said, I recorded

482
00:28:00,510 --> 00:28:03,810
this, but I haven't looked at it
yet. I had no idea that this was

483
00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:08,220
designed to be a takedown
totally. And he just he portrays

484
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:12,180
it like an expert. So he would
fight or he's from a political

485
00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:16,230
family. Yeah, that is so
political. It's not even funny.

486
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:19,590
You got to get up early. She's
an amateur. Yeah, trying to

487
00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:22,920
think she's gonna get some kudos
for this. This is, by the way,

488
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,900
if i I wish I'd heard it now.
Because this is I consider that

489
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,300
this is an affront. I thought
they're gonna do a real town

490
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,580
hall. And that's, no, I'm sort
of a hit job on the guy. Now.

491
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:37,950
Adam Curry: This is why he's
doing podcasts. And it's a

492
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,130
mistake for him to even do that.
But he was ready. He knew it was

493
00:28:41,130 --> 00:28:43,230
a mistake. He knew what they
were going to do. And he's

494
00:28:43,230 --> 00:28:45,780
ready. And he has great stories

495
00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:51,090
Unknown: from New York, Penn
Station to Union Station and

496
00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:55,440
Washington DC. And they were it
was a two and a half hour ride.

497
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,270
But it took seven and a half
hours because there were two and

498
00:28:57,270 --> 00:29:01,320
a half million people on that
train track in and it was a

499
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,470
cross section American all of
the major urban stations in

500
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:08,370
Trenton, Newark, Wilmington and
Baltimore. They were black

501
00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:10,590
Americans same Battle Hymn of
the Republic and they were

502
00:29:10,590 --> 00:29:15,480
Whites on the in the rural
areas. Were holding up signs

503
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,050
goodbye. Bobby prefers Bobby
American flags standing saluting

504
00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:22,950
four years later, and they have
supported my father in the

505
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:28,170
primaries in 1968. Four years
later, in 1972, they were not

506
00:29:28,170 --> 00:29:30,330
supporting my father and they
were not supported. They were

507
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:33,480
not supporting George McGovern,
who was aligned with my father

508
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080
and all these issues. Instead,
the vast majority of them were

509
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:43,680
supporting George Wallace. And,
you know, my father was able to

510
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,720
harness these populists,
energies in the last day of his

511
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,390
life, he won the most rural
state in this country, South

512
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:55,710
Dakota and most urban. He was
able to bridge the divide among

513
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:59,610
people who would otherwise be
Republican, but wanted somebody

514
00:29:59,610 --> 00:30:03,090
who was Common Sense was able to
appeal to their idealism, who

515
00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:06,390
was able to find the hero in
each of them, who was able to

516
00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:10,410
get them to transcend narrow
self interest, and see

517
00:30:10,410 --> 00:30:12,930
themselves as part of the
community and part of this, you

518
00:30:12,930 --> 00:30:17,220
know, incredible American
adventure in modeling self

519
00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:21,570
governance for the rest of the
world. So I'm proud that

520
00:30:21,630 --> 00:30:25,590
President Trump likes me, even
though I don't agree with most

521
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:29,700
of these issues. Because I don't
want to alienate people. I want

522
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,330
to bring people together. I'm
proud that all these people like

523
00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:36,360
me, and that I have independent
supporters and Democratic

524
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,350
supporters, and I'm able to
bring a lot of people, every

525
00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:45,420
Democrat says, I want to end the
polarization. But how do you do

526
00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:48,630
that without talking to people
who don't agree with you? How do

527
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:52,290
you do that without appealing to
people without the burden? My

528
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:57,120
purpose is to find the issues of
values that we have in common,

529
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,050
rather than, you know, focus on
the issues and the personalities

530
00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:02,130
that keep us all apart?

531
00:31:02,879 --> 00:31:06,059
Adam Curry: So he walked all
over the news model, the

532
00:31:06,089 --> 00:31:10,769
inexperienced news model, and
did a great job. I mean, it no

533
00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:14,579
matter what, what she tried, he
just had something he was, man,

534
00:31:14,579 --> 00:31:18,449
the voice. I think it's actually
a superpower. Because it's so

535
00:31:18,449 --> 00:31:20,189
hard to listen to, you have to
listen to

536
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:22,560
John C Dvorak: it. Yeah. Well,
there is this element of the

537
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,160
people talking low and doing all
these different tricks to make

538
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,300
you just strain to listen to
them. Yeah. And that is I

539
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,390
wouldn't call it a superpower.
But it's an advantage in some

540
00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:36,510
funny way. I think overall, it's
a disadvantage because he would

541
00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:38,190
love to be an orator. Yeah,

542
00:31:38,219 --> 00:31:40,919
Adam Curry: he was he wasn't
order. He used to do a lot of

543
00:31:40,919 --> 00:31:42,299
speeches back in the day. And

544
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,120
John C Dvorak: you know, now he
has to, you know, scrunch

545
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,650
through his his discussions in a
way that's painful to listen to.

546
00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:54,720
But I, I'm shocked. I thought
they were going to do a

547
00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,000
legitimate No, no, no townhall
not some sort of a hit job. Now

548
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,450
compare that ants, very
disappointed news. What was it

549
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:07,140
is new News Daily News Nine News
nation. That's the Kuumba group,

550
00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:07,950
Chris cromoz.

551
00:32:07,979 --> 00:32:15,029
Adam Curry: was on. So compare
how he wheels off that attack to

552
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,819
President Trump. Who gets I
mean, he shouldn't he? I guess

553
00:32:20,819 --> 00:32:23,549
this is his standard. He was
ready for this question from

554
00:32:23,549 --> 00:32:28,499
Brett bear. But man, this is a
question that a lot of real

555
00:32:28,499 --> 00:32:31,469
Trumpers all around hill
country, this is the one thing

556
00:32:31,469 --> 00:32:36,359
they have a problem with, is
about the COVID vaccines, Bret

557
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:42,419
bear. Skips really gives him a
softball. And this is how we

558
00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:43,829
answered it. The COVID

559
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:44,730
Unknown: vaccine work?

560
00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:49,740
It's such an interesting
question, because not only that,

561
00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:52,800
I also did the Regeneron 's of
the world, you know, the whole

562
00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:57,060
Well, we did a tremendous job on
that. But we had a wet vaccine.

563
00:32:57,060 --> 00:33:00,330
Now you have different you have
different COVID and COVID-19.

564
00:33:00,330 --> 00:33:02,970
And then you have different
robots, but we had an original

565
00:33:02,970 --> 00:33:06,330
was COVID-19, which was the
roughest one. So I have a

566
00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:09,990
Democrat friend who's very
smart. Hopefully he votes from

567
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:13,290
me, but he's very smart. I don't
understand one thing about you,

568
00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:16,020
I watched your rallies, they're
incredible. You talked about

569
00:33:16,050 --> 00:33:18,870
beating ISIS, you talk about
taxes, you talk about

570
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,830
regulation, you talk about
everything. But you never saw a

571
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:25,440
said that I've never heard you
talk about how with the

572
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,890
incredible job you did with the
vaccines because as you know, I

573
00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:30,930
got them done in nine months.
And it was supposed to take

574
00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:35,880
anywhere from five to 12 years,
I broke their s okay. And you

575
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,970
know, who doesn't like me too
much the FDA, because they were

576
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:43,290
very bureaucratic, and I got it
done. And he said, you may have

577
00:33:43,290 --> 00:33:46,830
saved in the world throughout
the world. 100 million people

578
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:50,370
and you never talk about it. I
said, I really don't want to

579
00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:53,190
talk about it. Because as a
Republican, it's not a great

580
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:56,610
thing to talk about. Because for
some reason, it's just not some

581
00:33:56,610 --> 00:33:59,910
reason. Yeah, for some reason,
because people love the

582
00:33:59,910 --> 00:34:02,430
vaccines, and people hate the
vaccines.

583
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,200
Adam Curry: No, no, no. That's
not the answer. People are

584
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,770
looking for them. In fact, if he
just said, You know what, I got

585
00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:14,940
hoodwinked. Don't, oh, he's
never gonna do that. Say the FDA

586
00:34:14,940 --> 00:34:18,630
hates him. The FDA loves him for
that. That was a multi billion

587
00:34:18,630 --> 00:34:24,000
dollar. Yeah. Now look for just
for a moment just to contrast

588
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,100
all of that. Ron DeSantis. Who
was I guess he's doing some

589
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:34,770
stump speeches. He he's in an
auditorium. The mic opens up.

590
00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:36,870
Here's what the first comment
is.

591
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,630
Unknown: Just came here to let
you know that you'll never be

592
00:34:39,630 --> 00:34:42,750
our president. You're just
another establishment little

593
00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:43,260
bitch.

594
00:34:43,409 --> 00:34:48,059
Thank you. Well, okay, let's not
let's just some people are

595
00:34:48,059 --> 00:34:51,089
actually here to see me. You
know, some people actually like

596
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,779
me, for instance, show of hands
everybody. How many of you are

597
00:34:54,779 --> 00:35:00,599
actually going to vote for me?
One guy, okay. I guess they This

598
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,309
is just really awkward.

599
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:06,330
Adam Curry: This may be a deep
fake, but it doesn't matter I

600
00:35:07,890 --> 00:35:14,940
just love someone calling him a
little bitch. Then we have so

601
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:19,110
funny, Garth K Jr. Goes on Bill
Maher and Bill Maher, I would

602
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:23,820
say is also an old school
Democrat. And they agree. They

603
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:29,100
agree on almost every liberal
liberal Yes. And they agree on a

604
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:34,950
lot of things. Mark very
annoying. Oh goodness. He gives

605
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:37,470
that guy two hours and he's more
annoying than the sheet

606
00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:41,070
interrupts continuously. And
he's, you know, I have nothing

607
00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:43,620
against people smoking weed, but
he loses his train of thought

608
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,980
all the time. Like, I forgot
what I was talking about. But

609
00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:52,710
but here's just a small and this
is a snide way of saying, I know

610
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:58,230
how the deep state works, and
I'll screw the deep state as the

611
00:35:58,830 --> 00:36:03,240
topic comes up of J. Edgar
Hoover, of course, ran the FBI

612
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:09,900
during Johnson and before, and
you know, the J Edgar Hoover,

613
00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:12,930
not a good guy. We know he was a
blackmailer, we know he's done

614
00:36:12,930 --> 00:36:16,170
all kinds of you know, sex,
blackmail, anything he could do.

615
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:21,090
Just any original transsexual
you and black as well. Did you

616
00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:25,650
know he was black? What J Edgar
Hoover was black.

617
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:29,490
John C Dvorak: Yep, it was I did
not know. Is there any evidence

618
00:36:29,490 --> 00:36:30,000
of this?

619
00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:32,550
Adam Curry: Mo has presented
this evidence quite

620
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:38,310
convincingly. He was a passing
black man. We only see him in

621
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:41,280
black and white photos. But yes,
this and I think Moe is correct.

622
00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:45,150
So I'll take Moe's word for it.
Anyway. So here he is with a

623
00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:49,140
little story about his dad when
he was attorney general. And the

624
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:51,750
director of FBI who of course
works for the attorney general,

625
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:56,970
in theory, when Johnson took
over, did he keep your father on

626
00:36:56,970 --> 00:36:57,450
as attorney

627
00:36:57,450 --> 00:37:00,360
Unknown: general? Yeah, my
father stayed for well and

628
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,670
resigned. He stayed till he was
gonna run for Senate. So he

629
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:10,350
stayed on but he didn't really
go to work. And also, you know,

630
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:13,740
half of his employees at the
Justice Department were FBI

631
00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:20,100
agents who work for Hoover. And
he had a buzzer on his desk for

632
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:23,430
Hoover, which nobody ever
taught. And he actually treated

633
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:28,350
Hoover as J. Edgar Hoover, his
employee. And no other attorney

634
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:31,410
general that ever cared to do
that. And I went up there, me

635
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:33,540
and my brothers would go up
there and push the button,

636
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,450
whoever would have to come up
and he would be very, very

637
00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:40,380
pissed off. I was in

638
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,450
Uber and I was in a smart thing
to do.

639
00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:45,420
No, one time, you

640
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,470
know, to to humiliate who wasn't
him. He was kidding me. He was

641
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:53,730
trying to bring him under
control, because he was you

642
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:59,430
know, he was a hit become a
power. And he was my father was

643
00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:01,740
you need to report to the
Attorney General. I'm your you

644
00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:06,270
know, your putative boss, and I
am your actual boss. So the

645
00:38:06,270 --> 00:38:10,920
second thing, as soon as Jack
was killed was J. Edgar Hoover,

646
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,200
who called my father and told
him that his brother had been

647
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,530
shot and, you know, an hour
later he called him and told him

648
00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:25,530
his brother was dead. And my
father was told a friend of his,

649
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:30,660
he said the way the tone that he
used when he told me that was

650
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:34,080
the same tone that he would use
kind of a matter of fact tone

651
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,220
that he would use if he had
discovered a communist on the

652
00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:42,540
faculty of Emory University,
that he would call him. So it

653
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:47,430
was like, it was a message that
he never spoke to my father

654
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:47,790
again.

655
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:52,770
Adam Curry: I Kennedy is
dangerous to these people. He's

656
00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:55,200
very, very dangerous. Oh, yeah.

657
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,120
John C Dvorak: He's a lot more
dangerous than Trump will ever

658
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,690
be. Yes,

659
00:38:57,690 --> 00:39:01,920
Adam Curry: sir. Yes, sir. I
love listening to his stories. I

660
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,940
can listen to him. He's got a
million stories is really quite

661
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:09,300
compelling. Finally, something
different and that's why Dana

662
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:14,340
Perino. You know, Miss Fox over
there. So you owe Looney to

663
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:15,660
John C Dvorak: Looney Tunes
Looney

664
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:19,440
Adam Curry: Tunes Looney Tunes.
But if you look at the field

665
00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:25,920
that Paul Ryan never Trumper who
was now on the board of Fox,

666
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:32,100
funny how that works, isn't it?
And, and you know, my dad funny?

667
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:36,510
Well, no, but my My theory here
is, you know, Rupert Murdoch is

668
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:40,680
his whole job is to bring in
Ronnie Ronnie D Rhonda, Rhonda.

669
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:47,850
DeSantis. Ron DeSantis. He can't
even he doesn't want Trump. He

670
00:39:47,850 --> 00:39:52,920
can't even bring himself to the
US. Ron DeSantis is named that's

671
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,430
how bad it is. Right now. Listen
to this. This is on CNBC.

672
00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:59,100
Unknown: I'm for anybody not
named Trump right now. Anybody

673
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,640
not named Trump. Anybody not
named RFK? Anybody not named can

674
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,790
Republican nominee for any
Republican not named from

675
00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:09,180
because I think we beat Biden,
for sure. If we nominate a

676
00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:09,990
Republican nominee,

677
00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:14,880
any idea who you think could get
everybody down by 40 points,

678
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:17,490
we're gonna find Donald Trump
and Joe Biden have a symbiotic

679
00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:20,580
relationship with each other.
They make the best case for each

680
00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:23,490
other's indices in it's a total
disaster for a country in a

681
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:26,760
country of 350 million people
you think somebody else do

682
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,980
you think you went? If you
nominate somebody not named? I

683
00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:31,770
do because you make everybody
who was supporting Trump very,

684
00:40:31,770 --> 00:40:34,410
yeah. So like, I'm never again,
Trump or so obviously, that the

685
00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:37,380
33% Trump face doesn't like a
person like me, because I'm very

686
00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:39,900
clear. I don't think he's fit
when I don't think he can when

687
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:43,230
English is right. He could and
that's dangerous. I mean, get

688
00:40:43,530 --> 00:40:45,600
you think you could even
populate a cabinet. I could get

689
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,570
to the Senate. I mean, I think
could be a total disaster. But I

690
00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:51,780
believe strongly if we nominated
Republican nominee Donald Trump,

691
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:53,040
we win this White House.

692
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:55,860
Adam Curry: All we can say is
not named Trump, who do you want

693
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:58,860
someone not named Trump? How
about know someone not named

694
00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:02,760
Trump? Anyone not named Trump?
How about saying Ron DeSantis

695
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,290
the guy you're supposed to get
in there? This is very bizarre.

696
00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:11,220
I've never witnessed that. What

697
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:12,510
John C Dvorak: was that? Well,
you played?

698
00:41:12,990 --> 00:41:14,310
Adam Curry: That's Paul Ryan.

699
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:17,880
John C Dvorak: That's Paul Ryan
saying not named Trump.

700
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,700
Adam Curry: Anybody not named
Trump? Who do you want him to

701
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,850
anybody not named Trump. You
know, if we had someone in there

702
00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:30,870
not named Trump. What? This this
is this screwed up? Well,

703
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:36,180
something's wrong with the whole
system. And then and then the

704
00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:40,620
Department of Justice, I guess
releases some audio tape, which

705
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,800
of course was given to them by
the by the people who

706
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:47,910
interviewed Trump for this
article or book or whatever. And

707
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:52,620
it becomes Anderson Cooper. Oh,
well, he's he's, he's confessing

708
00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:56,820
himself out of his own mouth
that he that he P took documents

709
00:41:56,820 --> 00:41:59,760
about the Iran invasion blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

710
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:05,490
blah. So even pixie girl over on
the CIA broadcasting systems has

711
00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:09,780
to bring the story. But in it,
she says it's not even a part of

712
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:15,840
the case. So it's, it's bullcrap
is just, it's just filling

713
00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:16,710
airtime.

714
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,320
Unknown: Today, the former
president defined on the

715
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,250
campaign trail,

716
00:42:20,279 --> 00:42:22,919
we did nothing wrong. This is a
whole hoax,

717
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:26,340
after CBS News and other media
outlets obtained an audio

718
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:29,070
recording where the former
president two years ago

719
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:32,490
allegedly shared with a group at
his New Jersey Golf Club, a

720
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:35,280
sensitive Defense Department
plan of attack on Iran,

721
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:39,870
highly secretive.

722
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:45,000
The recent criminal indictment
of the former president for the

723
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,210
willful retention of National
Defense Information includes a

724
00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:51,660
transcript of the conversation
allegedly between Trump a book

725
00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:54,600
writer, a publisher and two
staffers. The indictment says

726
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,630
none has security clearances,
ask the former senior Justice

727
00:42:57,630 --> 00:43:01,410
Department official Tom Dupree,
is it reasonable to believe the

728
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:05,250
special counsel has interviewed
those individuals?

729
00:43:05,399 --> 00:43:08,609
I think there's a very, very
good chance that he has they

730
00:43:08,609 --> 00:43:12,539
were witnesses to the alleged
criminal activity they can help

731
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,869
fill in some of the gaps. What
documents did the President

732
00:43:15,869 --> 00:43:16,349
show,

733
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:19,620
the audio recording appears to
contradict Trump's explanation

734
00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:22,440
that there was no classified
Iran document.

735
00:43:22,799 --> 00:43:26,429
We had a lot of papers, a lot of
papers stacked up. In fact, you

736
00:43:26,429 --> 00:43:29,309
could hear the rustle of the
paper and nobody said I did

737
00:43:29,309 --> 00:43:30,029
anything. Well.

738
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,360
Trump has consistently said he
declassified all the records he

739
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,790
took from the White House, but
in the recording

740
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:42,240
president. I think that the
special counsel will be able to

741
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,210
use this recording very
effectively before a jury

742
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:49,170
because he can argue that
they've captured on tape, the

743
00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:53,340
defendant narrating his own
alleged criminal activity.

744
00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:56,790
And CBS News has learned that
Trump has not been charged for

745
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:59,580
keeping the document he's
talking about on that tape.

746
00:43:59,790 --> 00:44:02,220
Special Counsel Jack Smith's
office declined to answer our

747
00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:05,400
questions about the Iran memo or
the audio tape. Trump has

748
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,710
pleaded not guilty to all
charges nor

749
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:11,490
Adam Curry: so they do a minute
and a half about this cape mo

750
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:14,130
this document and then well but
he's not being charged with it.

751
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:15,360
Put

752
00:44:16,770 --> 00:44:18,330
John C Dvorak: this Yeah,
they're going out of their way

753
00:44:18,330 --> 00:44:21,150
not to charge anything to do a
debt document.

754
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,450
Adam Curry: Because evidence
because it's real, you know,

755
00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:26,370
it's it's gotta be real courses

756
00:44:26,370 --> 00:44:30,180
John C Dvorak: real it was
written by Miley Yes. At the at

757
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:34,830
the request of I don't know who
and or himself. You know, he was

758
00:44:34,830 --> 00:44:37,770
kind of a freelancer still
working there. I don't know why.

759
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:39,030
And

760
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:42,030
Adam Curry: it's interesting.

761
00:44:42,299 --> 00:44:45,089
John C Dvorak: I remember during
our show, it was discussed that

762
00:44:45,329 --> 00:44:47,549
this attack on Iran was
discussed.

763
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,610
Adam Curry: Yeah, but then they
had an actual document Trump and

764
00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:52,680
you'd listen to the tape because
he he's showing you then the

765
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,210
document. He's no doubt about
it. But it's not probably Oh,

766
00:44:57,210 --> 00:45:00,000
no, no, no. Yeah, no discovery,
please. We can't actually have

767
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,390
that come out that will be
rather embarrassing. Especially

768
00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:05,700
because it was Miley who
wouldn't use the military

769
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:08,130
industrial complex who was
setting it up West Clark seventh

770
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:14,130
baby. Now I have one more clip
here. We have to I'm not sure

771
00:45:14,130 --> 00:45:17,610
how to deconstruct this. This
was Harry Smith. Was he NBC?

772
00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:23,400
He's hairy. shmancy, CBS, CBS
CBS. Listen to this bit.

773
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:27,600
John C Dvorak: We thought he was
long retired. Maybe he turns

774
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,260
Harry Smith.

775
00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:31,890
Adam Curry: Well, that's what
the clip. Yeah, it's Harry

776
00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:36,300
Smith, the bald guy. Maybe this
is a special anymore by his

777
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:39,240
voice. Yes. This is a this is
like a special report. And it's

778
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:44,310
about the heritage of members of
Congress. And it's very odd. I'm

779
00:45:44,310 --> 00:45:45,480
not sure how to read this.

780
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:49,560
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, this
came i Yeah. This is peculiar. I

781
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,060
know what you get to play in his
life when I didn't have any. I

782
00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:56,850
didn't have any. I didn't want
to slip into the shirt because I

783
00:45:57,390 --> 00:46:00,060
You're right. It's kind of
baffling. We're in

784
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:02,940
Unknown: Portsmouth, Virginia,
with black history scholar

785
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:06,390
Cassandra Newby, Alexakis
harrismith, Republic documents

786
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:10,320
and family records. A Reuters
examination discovered at least

787
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:14,490
100 members of the last sitting
Congress had direct family

788
00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:17,790
ancestors, who were
slaveholders. More than a

789
00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:23,430
quarter of Republicans 8%
Democrats. So to every living

790
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:27,330
American president, except
Donald Trump, when you learn

791
00:46:27,330 --> 00:46:28,800
that, that it surprise you.

792
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,500
Not at all. Power is something
that's often inherited, and so

793
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:39,360
is privilege. And those who
owned enslaved people were

794
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,650
privileged people,

795
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:45,750
would we be better off as a
people as an American people?

796
00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:49,830
If we better recognized the
truth of our past?

797
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:54,570
Absolutely. Unequivocally. We
have to keep teaching it and

798
00:46:54,570 --> 00:46:56,610
putting it in front of the
American people.

799
00:46:57,330 --> 00:47:00,180
Adam Curry: I mean, so every
single one of the American

800
00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:05,100
presidents had slitting living
had slave owners in their past

801
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:05,580
except

802
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,160
John C Dvorak: how many living
American presidents do we have?

803
00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:10,140
Well, three for starters.

804
00:47:11,550 --> 00:47:12,870
Adam Curry: But you understand,
so that's why I didn't

805
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:15,660
understand I didn't understand
this or this. What's the point

806
00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:19,560
of this? What are they trying to
say? Slave owners good.

807
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:22,440
John C Dvorak: Actually, Harry
Smith been moved over to NBC.

808
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,940
Adam Curry: I was right. I
thought it was just a very odd

809
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:27,540
thing to do.

810
00:47:27,570 --> 00:47:29,430
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
very odd and what was the point

811
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:30,150
of it? Yeah,

812
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,790
Adam Curry: I don't understand.
Do not understand

813
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:36,300
John C Dvorak: to make a Trump
look like he's the only ones not

814
00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:40,200
so watch where the these are.
This is generational after we

815
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,960
you know this. Who cares? Yeah.

816
00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:48,780
Adam Curry: So the media doesn't
know what to do that you know,

817
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:54,420
they all want the advertising
dollars they all have their

818
00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:58,080
marching orders. We know what
Fox is marching orders are I'm

819
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,870
not even sure the MSNBC is and
the CNN of the world. I'm not

820
00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:07,050
even sure they know what to do.
I mean, it's clear that Biden I

821
00:48:07,110 --> 00:48:11,100
mean, there's so much coming
out. They know they can't stop

822
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:11,850
the flood.

823
00:48:12,330 --> 00:48:18,510
John C Dvorak: I have some clips
of Biden but I'm kind of mixed

824
00:48:18,570 --> 00:48:23,400
have mixed feelings about your
theory about Biden in mine. My

825
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,050
theory was my your theory is
they're out to get him and you

826
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:32,550
started that you said I started
it but I backed off on it and

827
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:37,260
said that they're out to get
Kamala in. Yes, this is my right

828
00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:43,320
this is the latest way I see
okay. But your theory because I

829
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,400
was noticing on CBS in
particular, they're really going

830
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:54,240
they're bringing up all the bad
stuff about Biden, dia, CBS, the

831
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,200
other everyone else seems to be
flailing around it's hard to I

832
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,280
can't get a good handle on are
they going to try to get Biden

833
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,590
to resign? Well, here's an exam
I got some clip listen to this.

834
00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:12,090
The Garrett who Oh, there's Gary
ship shapely that guy. Yeah, the

835
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:18,120
IRS guy. Yeah. He was on CBS
blasting away at the at the

836
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Biden the whistleblower stuff
that whistleblower against

837
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:28,830
Hunter and then he went on.
Brett bearish show with pretty

838
00:49:28,830 --> 00:49:31,860
much the same things he said on
CBS. But those are the two

839
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:35,550
outlets that gave him this
freedom to complain. I have

840
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:39,240
three clips from him. Okay. And
his complaints are kind of like

841
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:43,830
okay, this Gary shapely intro
play this

842
00:49:43,890 --> 00:49:47,280
Unknown: is their criminal
implications in what you were

843
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,890
investigating when it comes to
Hunter Biden.

844
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:56,100
Oh, absolutely. And, you know,
the most substantive felony

845
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:59,010
charges were left off the table,
which would have been what,

846
00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:03,570
which would have been a evasion
for 14, false return for 18 and

847
00:50:03,570 --> 00:50:08,280
2019. So as of right now and the
information that's been out

848
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,030
there in the public, that uses
the term in excess of $100,000

849
00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:18,780
for 2017. separately for 2018.
The true number is $580,000. of

850
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:24,630
failure to pay for 2017 is
620,000. For 2018, got this

851
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:27,120
document, puts it close to
100,000.

852
00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:30,690
John C Dvorak: Something I've
been complaining about

853
00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:33,510
Adam Curry: complained about
that. Yes, you don't like those

854
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:34,110
numbers.

855
00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:38,190
John C Dvorak: In here is is
just one I missed. I misspelled

856
00:50:38,190 --> 00:50:41,040
Shipley's, Gary shipped him
blocks, blocks, I'm

857
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,460
Adam Curry: sorry, I had number
two set on second blocks.

858
00:50:44,670 --> 00:50:48,810
Unknown: But as we moved closer
to the election, it just seemed

859
00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:51,300
like they kept putting on the
backburner and eventually didn't

860
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,910
allow us to do that search
warrant, even though the legal

861
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:56,910
requirements to execute that
search warrant were met.

862
00:50:57,990 --> 00:51:02,040
Transitioning into another
search warrant was on a storage

863
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,100
unit in Northern Virginia. And
during the day of action on

864
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:09,900
December 8 of 2020, we got
updated information that said

865
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,890
that records were in that
location that were you know,

866
00:51:13,890 --> 00:51:17,970
that would be evidence in this
particular investigation. And

867
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:22,410
the prosecutors initially were
supportive of it and an

868
00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:25,950
affidavit was drafted the night
of December 8 2020. To go

869
00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:29,220
forward for approval. Oh,
eventually, the prosecutors

870
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:34,440
decided they didn't support it.
So I called US Attorney David

871
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,910
Weiss, with my senior executive
on the phone. And we said we

872
00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:41,970
need to execute this search
warrant. They he responded that

873
00:51:41,970 --> 00:51:45,150
the prosecutors didn't want to
and I asked if in 30 days if

874
00:51:45,150 --> 00:51:47,880
that storage unit wasn't
accessed, and that was the

875
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,370
deadline for the document
requests that was served on that

876
00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:54,090
day, then we can execute the
search warrant. And he agreed to

877
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:58,620
that. And no sooner I had gotten
off the phone with David Weiss

878
00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:01,740
had we learned that the
prosecutors were informing

879
00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:04,650
defense counsel of that storage
unit and the evidence that

880
00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:09,150
existed there. So it completely
ruin our chance to to access

881
00:52:09,150 --> 00:52:10,020
those unfettered.

882
00:52:10,380 --> 00:52:12,570
Adam Curry: This guy's boring he
doesn't he doesn't do it. He

883
00:52:12,570 --> 00:52:15,120
doesn't he needs some excitement
in what he's talking about. We

884
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:15,540
don't feel

885
00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:17,280
John C Dvorak: good to straight.

886
00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:21,660
Adam Curry: I need some
excitement from him is an

887
00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:23,880
John C Dvorak: IRS lifer.

888
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,530
Adam Curry: With a badge on his
belt. I love that. Uh, yeah. IRS

889
00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:31,050
badge, I get it back and look at
my keys. Man. I

890
00:52:31,050 --> 00:52:33,630
John C Dvorak: gotta be you're
expecting him to be like,

891
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:36,480
Adam Curry: I'm just saying it's
it's boring. He's a boring is

892
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,260
very bad.

893
00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:40,170
John C Dvorak: Ya know, but
it's, ya know, ya know? So,

894
00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:44,850
yeah, it's a problem, but this
is what you get for a real

895
00:52:44,850 --> 00:52:50,100
whistleblower. Yeah. And here he
is. I mean, I could clip this

896
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:53,880
guy forever. But it's all of
it's like a little doll. But he

897
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:59,310
has this material is like, wow,
what do you this? Right. After

898
00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:03,600
this clip? Yes, this is the car
shapely to try that.

899
00:53:03,630 --> 00:53:06,810
Adam Curry: Alright, gar. This
is a moment in which you wonder

900
00:53:06,810 --> 00:53:09,330
why the search engine doesn't
work. Well, Delaware, US

901
00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:10,620
Unknown: Attorney? David, why
Hold

902
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:14,580
John C Dvorak: on a second. Yes.
You've told me over the years

903
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:16,440
that you fix these.

904
00:53:16,590 --> 00:53:20,550
Adam Curry: I don't fix them at
all. I never said no, no, I

905
00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:25,080
John C Dvorak: here's a list.
I'll give you my process. I just

906
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,830
grew up, grind these things out.
And then I say to myself, I'm

907
00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:34,650
going back. And I'm going to
spellcheck the list before I

908
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:38,910
send it off to Adam. And then
for some unknown reason, I think

909
00:53:38,910 --> 00:53:40,650
I've been hypnotized. Is that
working out?

910
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:44,010
Adam Curry: It's okay to go do
it. Luckily, we have aI now. So

911
00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:47,070
we don't have to worry AI will
be able to find these things.

912
00:53:47,130 --> 00:53:47,700
Because it's

913
00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:50,070
John C Dvorak: large garsh a
guard shapely, no problem. This

914
00:53:50,070 --> 00:53:50,220
is

915
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:53,370
Unknown: a moment in which your
Delaware US Attorney David

916
00:53:53,370 --> 00:53:57,060
Weiss, according to you had made
this disclosure on October

917
00:53:57,060 --> 00:54:03,480
7 2022 meeting with top IRS and
FBI officials saying what? So

918
00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:08,250
I was there and I witnessed this
personally. And he started with

919
00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:10,980
he's not deciding personnel
whether or not charges are filed

920
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:11,340
or not,

921
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,010
not the deciding personnel on
whether charges are filed with

922
00:54:14,010 --> 00:54:16,260
Hunter Biden. That's correct.
Who was

923
00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:22,380
So ultimately this if you follow
the path of where the venue

924
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:26,370
leads, you then went to the DC
US Attorney's Office in March of

925
00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:31,380
2022. And they presented this
case to them. It's the same time

926
00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:34,560
with that same time as that was
occurring. They requested

927
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,320
discovery from the agents, which
is a typical step when they're

928
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,890
getting ready to charge. Now, I
wasn't in those meetings. I

929
00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:43,650
asked to be in those meetings as
did the case agent, so we didn't

930
00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:48,690
help present to them. But after
that occurred, he was no longer

931
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,600
looking to charge in that in
that district.

932
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:57,930
So that's earth shattering news.
It's a Biden appointed DC US

933
00:54:57,930 --> 00:55:01,740
attorney Matthew graves would
not Allow him to charge in his

934
00:55:01,740 --> 00:55:02,100
district.

935
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:07,290
So I didn't learn that fact
until October 7 of 2022. So

936
00:55:07,290 --> 00:55:11,400
looking back to March of 2022,
and that's when David Weiss in

937
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:16,410
October 7 2022 said that the DC
US Attorney's Office will not

938
00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:18,960
allow us to charge there. And
then he added that he would

939
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,180
request special account, he
requested Special Counsel

940
00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:25,440
authority, and was denied in
that meeting. I even had him

941
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,340
repeat that, because I knew how
important that fact was. And I

942
00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:30,690
wanted to make sure I understood
it.

943
00:55:30,930 --> 00:55:34,260
You were there. And you remember
it. Crystal clear in your mind.

944
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,190
Not only

945
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:40,260
do I remember crystal clear, but
I documented the email this an

946
00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:43,500
exhibit in the House Ways and
Means Committee testimony was

947
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:47,220
when I returned home that
evening, I documented it in an

948
00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:51,540
email, and it's an exhibit, you
can look right on there. And I

949
00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:55,590
sent that email to two senior
executives, one of which was at

950
00:55:55,590 --> 00:56:00,090
that meeting. And I said, Is
this accurate reflection of what

951
00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:03,420
occurred during the meeting? And
the response was you covered it

952
00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:03,690
all?

953
00:56:04,590 --> 00:56:06,990
Adam Curry: No, I What did that
mean? Because I was snoring.

954
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,190
John C Dvorak: What it means is
that there was something out of

955
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:13,590
the blue there, everything was
ready to go.

956
00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:15,840
Adam Curry: Yeah. And then all
of a sudden, someone pulled the

957
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,520
cord. Some,

958
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:21,720
John C Dvorak: let's say a spook
walked in and said, hey, guys

959
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:27,780
working for us. This has been my
thesis all along. And you can't

960
00:56:27,780 --> 00:56:34,590
do this. So stop. I think they
put a stop to it. Now. To add to

961
00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:37,410
a little more dimensionality to
this, your thesis that they're

962
00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:38,700
going to have to get rid of

963
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,720
Adam Curry: Hunter first. They
got to conquer somehow. Overdose

964
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:48,330
easy. Well, suicide, suicide
overdose or overdose would get

965
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,950
ingested into a jet engine. That
seems to be the new suicide way

966
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:56,160
these days. Well, hold on, let's
just

967
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,270
John C Dvorak: do much work.
Let's

968
00:56:57,720 --> 00:56:58,770
Adam Curry: have a private
version. Gotta

969
00:56:58,770 --> 00:57:01,320
John C Dvorak: find it. We got
to get on the tarmac.

970
00:57:01,950 --> 00:57:04,380
Adam Curry: No private jet. He
was going on the private jet,

971
00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:07,290
his buddy's private jet sucked
into the into the engine it

972
00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:12,360
could happen. I think they're
setting up President Biden for

973
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,590
the death. And it's this story
in particular that made me think

974
00:57:16,590 --> 00:57:16,800
that

975
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,810
Unknown: the White House says
President Biden has recently

976
00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:22,350
started using a CPAP machine
which helps people with sleep

977
00:57:22,350 --> 00:57:26,400
apnea condition affects 30
million Americans according to

978
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,910
the American Medical
Association, and PRs Deepa Shiva

979
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:30,990
ROM has more

980
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:33,840
than the White House disclosed
that Biden was using a CPAP

981
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,140
machine after reporters noticed
he appeared to have marks on his

982
00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:42,000
face from straps used to hold an
air pressure mask in place. CPAP

983
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,500
stands for continuous positive
airway pressure. Biden's past

984
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:50,490
medical reports as recently as
2019 and mentioned sleep apnea.

985
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,060
But his medical reports while
President have not, Biden's

986
00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:57,060
health is being closely
scrutinized by voters as well as

987
00:57:57,060 --> 00:58:00,450
by his political opponents
because at 80. He is the oldest

988
00:58:00,450 --> 00:58:04,290
president in US history. Polls
show some voters are concerned

989
00:58:04,290 --> 00:58:06,990
that he is too old to
effectively carry out a second

990
00:58:06,990 --> 00:58:10,470
term in office depot Shivram.
NPR news.

991
00:58:10,529 --> 00:58:12,869
John C Dvorak: Now a couple
things about this. Well, the

992
00:58:12,869 --> 00:58:16,079
first thing about this is it
wasn't a CPAP machine. It was a

993
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:17,099
ball gag.

994
00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:19,590
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was my
punch line and you just didn't

995
00:58:19,590 --> 00:58:20,790
really deliver it right.

996
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,910
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
that gag came from and I'm going

997
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:29,640
to call you out on this. I know
where you got that joke. No, I

998
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,560
Adam Curry: had the joke in my
mind already. I had it sent in

999
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,760
from the minute I got the clip.

1000
00:58:34,620 --> 00:58:38,190
John C Dvorak: Joke came from a
meme on no agenda social.

1001
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:44,220
Adam Curry: See? Here's here's
what I want to say about it. I

1002
00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:46,800
have friends who have CPAP
machines. I've never seen them

1003
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,640
with a with a strap Mark indent
on their face in the morning.

1004
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,850
They've stayed at my house just
as recently as last week. No,

1005
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,820
that's bullcrap. Something else
going on. They must have been

1006
00:58:59,820 --> 00:59:05,670
emergency oxygen or something
he's gonna die. It's the only

1007
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:09,930
solution. They the only way to
get rid of it is to get rid of

1008
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:14,340
all the evidence and the
evidence is Hunter and Joe. I

1009
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:17,130
bought this. I mean I hate to be
ghoulish about it. But

1010
00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:20,430
John C Dvorak: he is very good.
I'm sticking with the Democrats

1011
00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:25,830
on this. They've been Biden has
been doing this for 50 years. He

1012
00:59:25,830 --> 00:59:32,220
knows how to do this. And he's
still I'm sticking with the to

1013
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:36,810
Dante. idea where he's just
pretending to be a dummy. I have

1014
00:59:36,810 --> 00:59:44,670
clips here. Where he shows it
off is going to happen a hunter

1015
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:47,940
just before the election. It's
going to make everybody

1016
00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:53,400
Adam Curry: Oh yes, the he loves
the love of mice.

1017
00:59:54,570 --> 00:59:58,560
John C Dvorak: The Republicans
have driven him to suicide

1018
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,050
Adam Curry: by ingestion into Do
a jet engine

1019
01:00:01,530 --> 01:00:03,810
John C Dvorak: without the jet.
Come on. That's the best

1020
01:00:03,810 --> 01:00:04,410
Adam Curry: kind.

1021
01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:07,050
John C Dvorak: It's not going to
happen that way. There's no way

1022
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:12,240
it's cool. So yeah, it might be,
but chopped up is

1023
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:14,730
Adam Curry: better than the
woodchipper. It's the new mafia.

1024
01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:17,670
That's how the mob does it these
days. It's different. It's

1025
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:18,570
different these days

1026
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:21,150
John C Dvorak: and to get him to
sympathy, he needs to go over

1027
01:00:21,150 --> 01:00:24,270
the top and win the election and
can take a bunch of debit cards

1028
01:00:24,270 --> 01:00:25,680
with him to Republicans. Where's

1029
01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:27,960
Adam Curry: Kamala? Then?
Where's your story?

1030
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:29,310
John C Dvorak: The war did
again.

1031
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
it right now. Just as I did with

1032
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:33,930
Trotsky or

1033
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,330
John C Dvorak: Camela is two
months into it. After he gets

1034
01:00:36,330 --> 01:00:40,110
elected. He quits, resigns and
gives it to Kamla because he's

1035
01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:43,350
too old. Bo she gets in, she'll
be in there for three years and

1036
01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:44,310
get reelected.

1037
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,130
Adam Curry: Wow. All right. I'm
just gonna say right now. I

1038
01:00:47,130 --> 01:00:52,590
think Bobby Kennedy Jr. has a
real shot. And the reason I say

1039
01:00:52,590 --> 01:00:55,860
that is not because of is in
fact not because of the news

1040
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:59,220
nation town halls or anything
like that. He is going with the

1041
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:02,340
people are the people are tuning
out. They don't care about the

1042
01:01:02,340 --> 01:01:06,300
mainstream. There is not
anything can still be rigged

1043
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:10,140
with the elections. I'm not sure
how he gets past the Democratic

1044
01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:15,360
Party, apparatus rigging rigging
apparatus to become the

1045
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,470
candidate. I think he has as the
podcast presidential candidate.

1046
01:01:19,590 --> 01:01:23,610
I think he has a real shot. I
really do. I think he has a real

1047
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,030
shot. I know you think I'm
dreaming. You are but I think he

1048
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:29,160
has a real shot. Well, you said
the same about Trump when I said

1049
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,740
Trump could do it. And he did.

1050
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,120
John C Dvorak: I that was some
time ago before the rigging got

1051
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:36,540
got

1052
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:39,780
Adam Curry: wavy. There's the
request the rigging just

1053
01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:44,160
started. Please, please, please
elections have been rigged for a

1054
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,950
long time. Long long time.

1055
01:01:47,250 --> 01:01:49,740
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to
some Biden stuff. All right, get

1056
01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:52,890
start with this one. This was
the again i misspelling it says

1057
01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:58,440
viden Oh, but this is a good
jumble of just miscellaneous

1058
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:59,610
nonsense.

1059
01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:05,040
Unknown: Well, guess what? Yes.
I'm a guy driving a truck hit.

1060
01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:10,080
Anyway, knock down a whole
bridge in the whole Fox four

1061
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,320
lanes of the highway. Helping
them fix the reduction at the

1062
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,800
face Reduction Act. The new
plants being built. Three

1063
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,670
quarters of us industries grew
more kindly, consecrated,

1064
01:02:20,730 --> 01:02:25,500
obviously. consecrated. I think
I didn't go to mass

1065
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,210
Adam Curry: that's a good one.
That's a good little jumble he's

1066
01:02:30,210 --> 01:02:32,040
got going on there. Wow.

1067
01:02:32,490 --> 01:02:35,760
John C Dvorak: You're President
here's the Biden clip. need the

1068
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,170
money botch but if

1069
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:41,310
Unknown: you're too if you're
too if you're a family as a two

1070
01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:45,720
wage earner each of the parents
one making 30 grand while making

1071
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,730
40 or 50 Maybe that's a little
more than Well, yeah, they need

1072
01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:51,270
the money

1073
01:02:53,850 --> 01:02:56,940
Adam Curry: okay, where do you
get these from? Who's watching

1074
01:02:56,940 --> 01:02:57,840
these? This is no

1075
01:02:57,870 --> 01:02:59,880
John C Dvorak: all over the
place. This is horrible. Dr.

1076
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,660
Biden on this one here is kind
of telling it like it is. This

1077
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:05,970
is Biden on coal.

1078
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,160
Unknown: You're not gonna see
anybody building a new coal

1079
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,940
fired plant in America. Not just
because I did pass a law to say

1080
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:15,960
that is too expensive. It
doesn't work anymore.

1081
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:21,900
Adam Curry: Doesn't work. Oh.
That's just a lie. When it

1082
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:24,120
doesn't work as your windmills
they don't work that's too

1083
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,870
expensive.

1084
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,140
John C Dvorak: And then there's
this one this one got a lot of

1085
01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:30,540
play. This is the least of the
Yeah, this is the least

1086
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:33,390
interesting. This is where he
just talking to some reporters.

1087
01:03:33,630 --> 01:03:36,420
These Yeah. And he says your
rack.

1088
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,240
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I
didn't even clip this it was so

1089
01:03:41,130 --> 01:03:45,150
it's alright. It's alright.
Vladimir Putin been weakened by

1090
01:03:45,150 --> 01:03:45,600
recently

1091
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,540
Unknown: clearly moving

1092
01:03:48,540 --> 01:03:53,850
towards losing the war at home
and he has become a bit of a fly

1093
01:03:53,850 --> 01:04:00,450
around the world. NATO Japan
it's

1094
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,430
Adam Curry: this is why I didn't
clip it because the crappy

1095
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:08,340
helicopter noise is in
automatic. It doesn't worse.

1096
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:13,950
point you get a point off for
that minus one. I wanted to ask

1097
01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:17,040
you about the Hatch Act again.
Because something happened

1098
01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:23,550
during the summer of pride that
it started off with, you know, a

1099
01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:26,970
little hippie dippie cool little
clip on Twitter. Look at this

1100
01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:31,350
crazy Is it summer and Fred no
one watches the whole thing.

1101
01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:34,500
That Admiral that's the whole
thing. What do you mean? This is

1102
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:39,930
Admiral Levine. Admiral Levine
did a summer of brainchild. Yes.

1103
01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:44,820
Admiral Rachel Levine. Then a
summer of the dude. Did a summer

1104
01:04:44,850 --> 01:04:46,200
of fried please.

1105
01:04:46,410 --> 01:04:46,770
John C Dvorak: No,

1106
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,710
Adam Curry: it's Admiral Levine
annoyingly.

1107
01:04:51,330 --> 01:04:53,280
John C Dvorak: Psycho. No. Would
Admiral

1108
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,740
Adam Curry: Levine be allowed to
have any political speech as a

1109
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:03,870
representative of of government.
Yeah. Could Admiral Levine do

1110
01:05:03,870 --> 01:05:06,660
that? Or would that be a
violation of the house act?

1111
01:05:06,780 --> 01:05:08,340
John C Dvorak: It's not a
violation of the Hatch Act.

1112
01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:10,020
You're not doing it on company
time.

1113
01:05:10,290 --> 01:05:13,440
Adam Curry: What if she is doing
it on company time? What if it?

1114
01:05:13,950 --> 01:05:18,720
What if it's in this official
video of the summer of pride in

1115
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,300
his position as Admiral Levine

1116
01:05:22,110 --> 01:05:25,110
John C Dvorak: it was a
partisan. Yes. Completely

1117
01:05:25,110 --> 01:05:30,570
partisan. Well, okay, so you're
telling me that while on the job

1118
01:05:30,660 --> 01:05:31,830
Adam Curry: in uniform,

1119
01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:35,880
John C Dvorak: on the job in
uniform, because

1120
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,320
Adam Curry: the legs look super
hot Admiral, you got hairy legs,

1121
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:41,580
John C Dvorak: we'll play the
clip,

1122
01:05:41,610 --> 01:05:45,120
Adam Curry: okay. It's, it's
okay, so I'm gonna play the

1123
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:53,250
opening. This is Admiral Levine,
who brings in a child, the child

1124
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,920
is gonna see what's the child's
name. Ryan casada, who has been

1125
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:04,200
trained admits to being trained
as a political operative, to

1126
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:09,960
push the trans agenda. And there
are some amazing things that the

1127
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,740
admiral says In this clip, which
I believe, completely violate

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01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:16,620
not just the Hatch Act, but the
whole spirit of working for the

1129
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:17,760
American people.

1130
01:06:22,860 --> 01:06:26,190
Unknown: Hello, my name is
Admiral Rachel Levine. And I

1131
01:06:26,190 --> 01:06:29,160
have the honor of being the
Assistant Secretary for Health

1132
01:06:29,490 --> 01:06:31,980
at the United States Department
of Health and Human Services.

1133
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,420
Happy Pride. Happy Pride Month.
And actually, let's declare it a

1134
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:41,070
summer of pride, happy summer of
pride. It's so important to have

1135
01:06:41,070 --> 01:06:46,440
pride as a celebration for our
LGBTQ plus community. Recognize

1136
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,490
how far we have come, but also
how much work we have left to

1137
01:06:50,490 --> 01:06:55,800
do. So I am so excited to be
here with Ryan casada to talk

1138
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:00,090
about pride about our community.
And so first let's see once you

1139
01:07:00,090 --> 01:07:03,450
tell us a little bit about your
story, Ryan and and all the

1140
01:07:03,450 --> 01:07:05,010
fantastic work that you're
doing.

1141
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:10,080
Adam Curry: Okay, so Ryan casada
do we was a girl has had at

1142
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,860
least top surgery a quite a
while ago, maybe four years ago

1143
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:21,540
because Ryan casada has a like a
forced musical career singing

1144
01:07:21,540 --> 01:07:26,400
pride songs kind of like Blink
182 type stuff. And as you know,

1145
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,830
it's with you know, with bare
chest, as the bass player is a

1146
01:07:31,830 --> 01:07:34,950
dude who's now a girl. I mean,
the whole thing is just what

1147
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:38,880
it's a mind bender. And now Ryan
Cassatt is sitting there in a

1148
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:45,330
suit and tie with big, big
glasses on big, big, studious

1149
01:07:45,330 --> 01:07:49,590
glasses. And it's following a
script, which I think they may

1150
01:07:49,590 --> 01:07:51,030
even be reading off the
prompter.

1151
01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:54,360
Unknown: Great. Thank you,
Admiral Levine. My name is Ryan

1152
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:59,340
casada. I use he him pronouns.
And I like to share my pronouns

1153
01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:04,890
first before I start any
conversation. And I am a singer

1154
01:08:04,890 --> 01:08:09,720
songwriter and a transgender
activist. I play a lot of

1155
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:14,700
protest songs to help the
transgender liberation movement.

1156
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:19,050
Adam Curry: This is new, the
transgender liberation movement.

1157
01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:25,020
That sounds kind of woowoo
anarchistic like it transgender

1158
01:08:25,020 --> 01:08:26,070
liberation movement,

1159
01:08:26,069 --> 01:08:29,639
Unknown: and I started my
activism when I was 13 years old

1160
01:08:29,639 --> 01:08:34,679
after getting bullied pretty
severely in middle school when I

1161
01:08:34,679 --> 01:08:39,569
first came out. And from there
on, I joined the Safe Schools

1162
01:08:39,569 --> 01:08:44,069
team through the LGBT network on
Long Island, where I grew up.

1163
01:08:44,549 --> 01:08:50,549
And that is where I learned to
publicly speak and also learned

1164
01:08:50,579 --> 01:08:55,289
the education that I needed to
be able to go into schools and

1165
01:08:55,289 --> 01:08:58,199
conferences to carry the
message. So

1166
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,260
Adam Curry: that's where this
child was programmed and mind

1167
01:09:01,260 --> 01:09:06,360
controlled learned the knowledge
on how to be activist Yes, yeah,

1168
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:10,289
John C Dvorak: there are these
schools and seminars. It's

1169
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:15,209
interesting that you mentioned
this earlier about the BLM

1170
01:09:15,209 --> 01:09:19,739
becoming the trans M trans
movement, but transgender

1171
01:09:19,739 --> 01:09:22,289
liberation movement which is is

1172
01:09:22,410 --> 01:09:26,370
Adam Curry: T LM Yes, very good.
T LM Yep.

1173
01:09:26,460 --> 01:09:28,680
John C Dvorak: From BLM. This is
galley have just changed one

1174
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,390
letter boom, you can use the old
style,

1175
01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:33,180
Adam Curry: same flags, you can
just say flags and bumper

1176
01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:34,170
sticker same

1177
01:09:34,860 --> 01:09:35,460
John C Dvorak: stickers.

1178
01:09:36,450 --> 01:09:41,130
Unknown: Well, thank you so much
for being such a role model and

1179
01:09:41,130 --> 01:09:44,190
a voice for the trans community.

1180
01:09:45,569 --> 01:09:47,999
Adam Curry: This is something
that just as a side note, for

1181
01:09:47,999 --> 01:09:51,299
some reason, Admiral Levine
keeps saying community has to

1182
01:09:51,299 --> 01:09:54,479
really T has it pronounced the
community community.

1183
01:09:54,509 --> 01:09:59,159
Unknown: Well, thank you so much
for being such a role model and

1184
01:09:59,159 --> 01:10:03,959
a voice For the trans community,
we were talking before about

1185
01:10:03,959 --> 01:10:07,499
your songs and how they give a
message of hope and compassion,

1186
01:10:07,649 --> 01:10:10,109
but also protests, how do you
mix all that together?

1187
01:10:10,230 --> 01:10:13,770
Adam Curry: So I left this in
just because it's too funny. But

1188
01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:17,850
again, this is now show they're
leading up to political talking

1189
01:10:17,850 --> 01:10:21,390
points right here, by abusing
this child who has clearly been

1190
01:10:21,390 --> 01:10:23,670
abused by the political system
for many years.

1191
01:10:24,450 --> 01:10:29,220
Unknown: I think it naturally
mixes together as a trans

1192
01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:34,200
person, as a trans man, I know
that my body is politicized. My

1193
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:39,000
identity is politicized. Right
now, especially with all of the

1194
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:42,930
anti trans legislation and bills
that are happening,

1195
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,420
Adam Curry: I'd say this is
political activism here,

1196
01:10:45,420 --> 01:10:46,200
wouldn't you say?

1197
01:10:46,650 --> 01:10:50,610
John C Dvorak: No, no, not in so
far as to hatch X, hold

1198
01:10:50,610 --> 01:10:52,860
Adam Curry: on, hold on to your
hat, your hatch,

1199
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,730
Unknown: right now in our
community and our country, and

1200
01:10:57,750 --> 01:11:01,680
it just naturally flows because
the thing that I am most

1201
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:07,740
passionate about is helping the
transgender community to

1202
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:12,450
freedom, really, that comes
through often in my music.

1203
01:11:12,780 --> 01:11:15,690
Well, that's fantastic. You
know, we just had pride at the

1204
01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:20,370
White House and DC pride this
weekend here. And the President

1205
01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:24,000
and the First Lady spoke so
eloquently about their support

1206
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,810
for the broader LGBTQ plus
community, but particularly for

1207
01:11:27,810 --> 01:11:31,710
the transgender community, trans
youth, their families, their

1208
01:11:31,710 --> 01:11:35,370
providers. And so you know, you
talked about the challenges that

1209
01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:39,180
we have in many states across
the country, for political

1210
01:11:39,180 --> 01:11:41,010
purposes. What are your thoughts
about that?

1211
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,960
Adam Curry: So we're still not
at the Hatch Act? He was all

1212
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,870
about political purposes. It's
all about the anti trans we'll

1213
01:11:45,870 --> 01:11:49,950
just say we're still not at the
Hatch Act. Not yet. Not yet. No,

1214
01:11:49,980 --> 01:11:50,340
no.

1215
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:56,940
Unknown: I think right now, it
is more difficult than ever to

1216
01:11:56,940 --> 01:12:03,270
be trans because of this
legislation. And I know I hear

1217
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:08,850
it from trans youth every single
day, multiple people, that they

1218
01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:12,720
are struggling because of the
legislation because of the

1219
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:18,300
media, the news, and we need to
do everything we can right now,

1220
01:12:18,420 --> 01:12:22,800
so that trans youth can access
the care that they need, and

1221
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,570
they deserve. I know that this
is life saving care that is on

1222
01:12:27,570 --> 01:12:28,290
the line.

1223
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,370
Absolutely. So you know, let's
talk for a moment about the

1224
01:12:32,370 --> 01:12:36,870
trans health care that our
community needs and transgender

1225
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:39,870
medicine and gender affirming
care. I mean, that term is

1226
01:12:39,870 --> 01:12:43,440
important although our opponents
have weaponized it what are your

1227
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:43,980
opponents

1228
01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:46,560
Adam Curry: have weaponized it
is that not political speech?

1229
01:12:46,980 --> 01:12:51,960
John C Dvorak: No. Wow. You have
to say the Republicans have

1230
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,590
weaponized it the red states
have weaponized the lousy

1231
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:59,280
Republicans the mega magazine
which is by the way why John

1232
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,610
Pierre got in trouble because
she said mega mega Republicans

1233
01:13:02,610 --> 01:13:04,890
so if you Where's where's the
mention of Republican

1234
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,820
Adam Curry: opponents? That's
not good. That means just

1235
01:13:08,820 --> 01:13:09,360
somebody doesn't

1236
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,950
John C Dvorak: like them it
doesn't mean could be a Democrat

1237
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:12,930
could be Republican could be an
independent

1238
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,800
Adam Curry: mom sorry. I fought
the whole thing was disgusting.

1239
01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:17,550
I really

1240
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:21,360
John C Dvorak: I didn't say it
wasn't a violation of the Hatch

1241
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,010
Act from what I can try thought

1242
01:13:23,010 --> 01:13:25,800
Adam Curry: it came close I
think it's so I don't even think

1243
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:26,430
John C Dvorak: it's close

1244
01:13:27,059 --> 01:13:32,369
Adam Curry: okay all right. I
was wrong I'm just I'm

1245
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,800
John C Dvorak: do have to say it
has to be very partisan. You do

1246
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,710
they say vote Democrat and this
won't happen they did none of

1247
01:13:40,710 --> 01:13:42,570
that goes on in this this
discussion.

1248
01:13:42,570 --> 01:13:45,150
Adam Curry: I thought the
opponents part was enough but no

1249
01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:48,990
John C Dvorak: opponent could be
Democrat I spoke grants are all

1250
01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:50,190
in on this stuff.

1251
01:13:50,670 --> 01:13:52,650
Adam Curry: I take your legal
advice on this

1252
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:55,440
John C Dvorak: is I'm not a
legal. I'm not an attorney. I

1253
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:56,880
only play when on this podcast.

1254
01:13:57,270 --> 01:14:01,350
Adam Curry: That's why I take it
I take it I take it now. I think

1255
01:14:01,380 --> 01:14:05,250
ultimately, the goal of all of
this stuff is just to get hate

1256
01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:08,850
speech laws on the books. They
just really want to shut us up.

1257
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:11,310
Everybody to shut up. There's

1258
01:14:11,310 --> 01:14:12,750
John C Dvorak: no doubt about
that. But

1259
01:14:12,750 --> 01:14:14,940
Adam Curry: then missing but
it's like they don't really care

1260
01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:17,970
about trans as long as we can
get hate speech laws on the

1261
01:14:17,970 --> 01:14:20,340
books. That's what I've seen.

1262
01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:23,370
John C Dvorak: That's that's
probably a legit I think you

1263
01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:26,370
could say that. They don't care
about trans is bullcrap. We

1264
01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:31,620
actually got a very, they care
about free speech. Yeah, yeah.

1265
01:14:31,710 --> 01:14:34,710
Adam Curry: We got a very
thoughtful dissection of the

1266
01:14:34,770 --> 01:14:38,760
Arkansas law that's you know,
that the judge overturned and

1267
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:45,630
and and really the interesting
part of this is the law that

1268
01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:48,900
that they put into into play
that they enacted that are

1269
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:54,930
minors cannot have medical
transitions for a medical term,

1270
01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:57,180
what is what they call it?
Gender, medical, you

1271
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:59,040
John C Dvorak: can't have your
nuts chopped off if you're a

1272
01:14:59,070 --> 01:15:01,230
minor in Jesus. be on a whim.

1273
01:15:02,460 --> 01:15:04,980
Adam Curry: What he says is the
interesting argument is about

1274
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:08,610
the parents rights.

1275
01:15:09,690 --> 01:15:11,130
John C Dvorak: Because yeah,
this will be talked about in

1276
01:15:11,790 --> 01:15:15,600
this switcheroo on this parents
rights thing, I think is genius.

1277
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:18,240
Adam Curry: Yeah. And he has a
whole breakdown, which I don't

1278
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,410
know if it makes sense for us to
discuss it. But what they're

1279
01:15:22,410 --> 01:15:26,490
calling standard parental rights
is this, what they're throwing

1280
01:15:26,490 --> 01:15:29,910
up is not the standard for
determining parental rights. But

1281
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:33,570
there's a lot of validity to
them saying, Well, you could

1282
01:15:33,570 --> 01:15:38,280
have cisgendered medical care if
you want a boob job or a butt

1283
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,300
lift or whatever. So you should
be able to have anything. And I

1284
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:45,270
think, I think that the states
will lose out on this. And

1285
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:50,310
unfortunately, they're all I
think parental rights will get

1286
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:54,570
lost too. It's like, they

1287
01:15:54,570 --> 01:15:57,480
John C Dvorak: want people on
both sides of this and they

1288
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,640
should be able to fight they
want your kids,

1289
01:15:59,820 --> 01:16:03,360
Adam Curry: they want your kids.
And it's in a structural the

1290
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,910
Anheuser Busch CEO, the spook
the spook guy. Yeah, I think he

1291
01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:13,050
was put into to make this
happen. I mean, he was put into

1292
01:16:13,050 --> 01:16:17,250
Pepsi code or ruin PepsiCo. I
think it was put into Anheuser

1293
01:16:17,250 --> 01:16:21,120
Busch to ruin Anheuser Busch.
And of course, Anheuser Busch is

1294
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,730
the one that given away their
beer for July 4 here free beer,

1295
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:28,380
just drink it, please. They're
giving it away. You can have

1296
01:16:28,380 --> 01:16:32,580
free beer from from Anheuser
Busch chose CBS spook network

1297
01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:36,060
Brenda, Mom, this guy and he
needs a little brush up on the

1298
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:38,850
training on media training on
how to answer things because

1299
01:16:38,850 --> 01:16:43,170
it's and have you seen his head?
was huge, isn't it? Well, no,

1300
01:16:43,170 --> 01:16:47,250
it's spook head. Oh, it's a
spook Head Total spook head

1301
01:16:47,250 --> 01:16:49,830
spook smile, spook haircut. Oh,
yeah, he's

1302
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:52,080
John C Dvorak: very spooky
spook, we should point out that

1303
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,510
Unknown: your former United
States Marine and you were also

1304
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:57,120
at the Central Intelligence
Agency, the CIA director. So you

1305
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,910
know a little bit about stress.
Just a tiny bit.

1306
01:17:00,389 --> 01:17:03,779
Adam Curry: How did you go from
the CIA to Anheuser Busch?

1307
01:17:03,870 --> 01:17:05,160
Unknown: You know, I thought the

1308
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:10,950
Adam Curry: There you go. He
doesn't answer the question very

1309
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:11,100
well,

1310
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:17,940
John C Dvorak: from CI, a CEO of
Anheuser Busch, which they do

1311
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:21,030
that. What's the steps? What's
the in between sticks?

1312
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:22,830
Adam Curry: Zack, how do you how
does that how does that happen?

1313
01:17:22,830 --> 01:17:24,780
Well, his answer is not
satisfying.

1314
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:28,410
Unknown: You know, I thought the
highest calling that anybody can

1315
01:17:28,410 --> 01:17:33,120
have is serving the country. But
for personal reasons, made the

1316
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,640
decision after eight years in
service of the country,

1317
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:39,180
Adam Curry: well, for personal
reasons. After eight years,

1318
01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:43,290
which is not a very long spook
career, personal reasons. IE,

1319
01:17:43,290 --> 01:17:47,160
they told me you're gonna now be
a spook in the field over here

1320
01:17:47,220 --> 01:17:48,120
that this is

1321
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,470
Unknown: but for personal
reasons, made the decision after

1322
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:55,710
eight years in service of the
country, to move into into

1323
01:17:55,710 --> 01:17:56,070
business

1324
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:58,380
Adam Curry: for service of the
country to move into business.

1325
01:17:58,380 --> 01:18:01,890
So the way I read that, well,
yeah, you read it right to be a

1326
01:18:01,890 --> 01:18:03,780
spook in business. That's what I
hear,

1327
01:18:03,810 --> 01:18:06,360
Unknown: but for personal
reasons, made the decision after

1328
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,570
eight years in service of the
country to move into into

1329
01:18:09,570 --> 01:18:12,150
business. I worked for PepsiCo
for a number of years, and I

1330
01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:14,430
came here 10 years ago, and I've
been in this position for two

1331
01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:17,340
years. He still likes this job.
I love this job. And I love the

1332
01:18:17,340 --> 01:18:20,250
company. And it really is, as I
mentioned that American way

1333
01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:23,280
John C Dvorak: stop. What was
the question he got asked,

1334
01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:24,570
Adam Curry: Do you like the job?

1335
01:18:27,210 --> 01:18:28,050
John C Dvorak: Why okay?

1336
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:32,550
Adam Curry: Do you still like
this job is what she says,

1337
01:18:33,450 --> 01:18:34,800
Unknown: in this position for
two years,

1338
01:18:34,830 --> 01:18:36,030
he still likes this job.

1339
01:18:36,090 --> 01:18:37,710
I love this job. And I love the
company.

1340
01:18:37,740 --> 01:18:41,190
Adam Curry: I think what you
know, this is Gail, she's at

1341
01:18:41,190 --> 01:18:44,610
this old get a broadcasting
systems. So basically saying,

1342
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,270
what do you do you like this
assignment? What do you do like

1343
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:48,960
this, you liked

1344
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,860
John C Dvorak: this assignment.

1345
01:18:51,330 --> 01:18:53,250
Unknown: And I've been in this
position for two years, he still

1346
01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,670
likes this job. I love this job.
And I love the company. And it

1347
01:18:56,670 --> 01:18:59,520
really is, as I mentioned, an
American institution. And it's

1348
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:06,120
really to me one operation. And
it's really, to me one degree of

1349
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,520
separation away from the

1350
01:19:09,630 --> 01:19:11,970
Adam Curry: Shut up, because
what he says is funnier than

1351
01:19:11,970 --> 01:19:13,050
your remarks.

1352
01:19:13,260 --> 01:19:16,020
Unknown: And it's really to me
one degree of separation away

1353
01:19:16,050 --> 01:19:20,640
from the United States, the
American flag. And so even

1354
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:21,480
though I'm not

1355
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:23,760
Adam Curry: Yeah, he said
working at Anheuser Busch is

1356
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,490
just one step away from the
American flag.

1357
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:28,470
John C Dvorak: It's a Belgian
company,

1358
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:31,470
Unknown: American institution.
And it's really to me one degree

1359
01:19:31,470 --> 01:19:35,370
of separation away from the
United States, the American

1360
01:19:35,370 --> 01:19:39,720
flag. And so even though I'm not
serving the country anymore, I

1361
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,340
still feel like I have an
opportunity to support the

1362
01:19:44,340 --> 01:19:46,860
country and that's exactly what
Anheuser Busch gives us the

1363
01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:47,700
opportunity to do.

1364
01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:52,650
Adam Curry: Just replace country
for company. IE, the pickle

1365
01:19:52,650 --> 01:19:58,380
factory. i This guy he's as he's
as heat seeking missile. No way

1366
01:19:58,380 --> 01:20:02,310
I'd hire this guy for my Beer
Company. This is weird

1367
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:04,020
Unknown: you're feeling you'll
get through this well,

1368
01:20:04,860 --> 01:20:06,360
Adam Curry: you'll get through
this Sure.

1369
01:20:06,690 --> 01:20:13,140
John C Dvorak: Let's ask
ourselves why did they hire him?

1370
01:20:14,639 --> 01:20:16,649
Adam Curry: Well they firstly
went to PepsiCo they

1371
01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:19,860
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry were
they told to hire him or as they

1372
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:21,030
have a gun to their head

1373
01:20:23,490 --> 01:20:25,800
Adam Curry: did he come in
before the sale or after the

1374
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:26,250
sale?

1375
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:28,650
John C Dvorak: came in after the
sale okay

1376
01:20:29,940 --> 01:20:31,980
Adam Curry: to keep an eye on
those Belgians probably

1377
01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:37,620
John C Dvorak: but but why would
the Belgians hire him? Not say

1378
01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:38,670
no he's noises spoke

1379
01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:44,730
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know.
Maybe it just felt right.

1380
01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:48,330
John C Dvorak: I think something
else is I think we there's a

1381
01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:50,280
piece of information that we're
missing

1382
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:55,020
Adam Curry: Do you have any tick
tock LinkedIn

1383
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:57,270
John C Dvorak: use they they're
still playing this game with

1384
01:20:57,270 --> 01:21:00,300
this with Bud Light and a whole
thing even though the sales have

1385
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:05,670
gone down? They lost billions of
dollars in sales and market cap?

1386
01:21:05,670 --> 01:21:09,930
Yeah. So there's something you
end up with actual benefits

1387
01:21:09,930 --> 01:21:12,060
something's got to happen to
that's gonna make up for these

1388
01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:12,720
losses

1389
01:21:12,810 --> 01:21:15,300
Adam Curry: in the MTA. The
Manhattan Transit Authority has

1390
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:20,640
signs up in in the subways. And
this is this is kind of where

1391
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:24,510
I'm getting this thought from
this all about hate hate speech

1392
01:21:24,510 --> 01:21:29,580
laws which ridiculous service
information it's a poster on the

1393
01:21:29,580 --> 01:21:36,030
wall and has the pride rainbow
colors no bigotry hatred or

1394
01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:39,630
prejudice allowed at this
station at any time. Reminder

1395
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:43,920
respect to trans people or your
pronouns will be was were

1396
01:21:46,290 --> 01:21:49,950
John C Dvorak: I saw this I'm
questioning whether this this

1397
01:21:49,950 --> 01:21:54,510
this image is a hoax looks
pretty real to me. It looks

1398
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:57,060
real. But as we have anybody in
the field that can take a

1399
01:21:57,060 --> 01:21:58,410
picture the real sign

1400
01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:02,970
Adam Curry: will get one. But
regardless, it's me man. It's

1401
01:22:02,970 --> 01:22:03,420
the mean

1402
01:22:03,450 --> 01:22:07,260
John C Dvorak: it to me. I'm
thinking it's a created meme.

1403
01:22:07,890 --> 01:22:10,620
Adam Curry: It's the memes. We
got to be careful these memes

1404
01:22:10,620 --> 01:22:16,740
they're getting into my brain.
And it's it's incredible what's

1405
01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:21,570
happening. I grew I question
that sign. I looks really pretty

1406
01:22:21,570 --> 01:22:22,740
real to me. For one

1407
01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:24,780
John C Dvorak: thing I
questioned that sign existing

1408
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:27,810
for more than 10 minutes with
some graffiti not being splashed

1409
01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:28,800
on it. Well, it goes

1410
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:33,060
Adam Curry: along with 250
celebrities, celebrities and

1411
01:22:33,060 --> 01:22:38,520
allies who call on Instagram,
Facebook, YouTube, Tik Tok and

1412
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,780
Twitter to stop the flow of anti
trans hate and malicious

1413
01:22:42,780 --> 01:22:48,150
disinformation about trans and
healthcare. open letter sent to

1414
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:54,570
Mark Zuckerberg meta platforms
Neal Mohan YouTube jusy to tick

1415
01:22:54,570 --> 01:22:59,940
tock and Linda Yeah, Karina and
Elon Musk at Twitter. And you

1416
01:22:59,940 --> 01:23:03,180
know you're in for a good ride
when it starts off as as

1417
01:23:03,180 --> 01:23:06,510
celebrities influencers and
prominent public figures with

1418
01:23:06,510 --> 01:23:11,130
significant followings on social
media. We the undersigned are

1419
01:23:11,130 --> 01:23:14,160
calling on Instagram, Facebook,
YouTube, Tik Tok and Twitter to

1420
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,520
fulfill the promises you've made
to transgender non binary,

1421
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,960
gender nonconforming and all
LGBTQ users. In your terms of

1422
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,560
service. There has been a
massive systemic failure to

1423
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,490
prohibit hate, harassment and
malicious anti LGBTQ

1424
01:23:29,490 --> 01:23:33,990
disinformation on your platforms
and it must be addressed

1425
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:40,290
dangerous posts, both content
and ads created and memes

1426
01:23:40,740 --> 01:23:45,120
created and circulated by a high
follower anti LGBTQ hate

1427
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,290
accounts. targeting transgender
non binary and gender

1428
01:23:49,290 --> 01:23:52,590
nonconforming people are
thriving across your platforms

1429
01:23:52,710 --> 01:23:57,090
directly resulting in terrifying
real life harm, including bomb

1430
01:23:57,090 --> 01:24:00,780
threats, targeting children's
hospitals that offer a health

1431
01:24:00,780 --> 01:24:03,420
care for trans youth and death
threats targeting care

1432
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:07,410
providers. Such false and hate
driven widely circulated content

1433
01:24:07,410 --> 01:24:10,470
on your platform is even being
cited by lawmakers advancing

1434
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:13,710
discriminatory legislation
against trans people. This has

1435
01:24:13,710 --> 01:24:20,220
this is crazy. This is really
the it's off the rails and I

1436
01:24:20,220 --> 01:24:24,630
don't know what's going to
happen you know, dead naming

1437
01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:28,080
this is dangerous it is dead net
dead naming is violence.

1438
01:24:29,730 --> 01:24:32,070
John C Dvorak: Dead naming brush
forget about that.

1439
01:24:33,090 --> 01:24:35,970
Adam Curry: It's an every every
paragraph is hate speech. They

1440
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:40,080
want hate speech laws. They want
to silence speech. And this has

1441
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,430
already happened in the UK. It's
happening everywhere now. And

1442
01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:50,070
outside of the US. It Michigan
is out of control. I was

1443
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:54,360
legislation HB 4474 would amend
the state's ethic intimidate

1444
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,200
ethnic intimidation act of 1988,
which I didn't even know existed

1445
01:24:58,830 --> 01:25:02,910
in order to consider it a Hate
crime, whatever that is, if a

1446
01:25:02,910 --> 01:25:07,290
person is accused of causing
severe mental anguish to another

1447
01:25:07,290 --> 01:25:11,070
individual by means of perceived
verbal intimidation or

1448
01:25:11,070 --> 01:25:15,570
harassment. The amendment
defines the words intimidate or

1449
01:25:15,570 --> 01:25:19,620
harass as a, quote, willful
course of conduct involving

1450
01:25:19,620 --> 01:25:23,130
repeated or continuing
harassment of another individual

1451
01:25:23,310 --> 01:25:27,210
that would cause a reasonable
individual to feel terrorized,

1452
01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:32,550
frightened, intimidated, and
threatened, harassed or

1453
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:38,430
molested. This start, John we
saw this happen right before our

1454
01:25:38,430 --> 01:25:42,540
very eyes. It started with
bullying in schools. We were

1455
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:47,430
talking about this in 2009 and
then we got the hate speech

1456
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:50,820
rules in school and then it
became legislation

1457
01:25:52,980 --> 01:25:55,290
John C Dvorak: this seems to be
it couldn't be an attack on

1458
01:25:55,530 --> 01:25:58,710
three speeches and couldn't be
could have been watching this.

1459
01:25:58,950 --> 01:26:02,880
They did an unsuccessful I
should mention it was Yeah, but

1460
01:26:02,910 --> 01:26:06,480
wow. And a lot of them bring the
you know, they promised they did

1461
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:10,980
they have I don't know there's
some issues. Which brings me to

1462
01:26:10,980 --> 01:26:12,360
a couple of talk clips.

1463
01:26:14,970 --> 01:26:22,020
Adam Curry: Tick tock tock tick
tock was upgraded, upgraded the

1464
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:22,470
jingle.

1465
01:26:23,730 --> 01:26:27,570
John C Dvorak: The one thing I
noticed I have two clips. And

1466
01:26:27,570 --> 01:26:31,050
one thing I've noticed is there
this first clip is not it's

1467
01:26:31,050 --> 01:26:33,000
another one you're going to
complain about the quality but

1468
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:38,070
this is a person who just talks
about Neo pronouns That's all

1469
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:39,570
she does Neo

1470
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,300
Adam Curry: knee as in expanded
more new,

1471
01:26:42,929 --> 01:26:45,449
John C Dvorak: additional. And
in fact, you've seen a bunch of

1472
01:26:45,569 --> 01:26:48,059
Charlie Kirk and some of these
other guys are always getting

1473
01:26:48,059 --> 01:26:50,939
into trouble because they're
kind of outspoken about all this

1474
01:26:51,179 --> 01:26:54,809
and they have people you know,
call them transphobes and they

1475
01:26:55,049 --> 01:26:57,569
and you see the same thing I
could have gotten clips of these

1476
01:26:57,569 --> 01:27:01,889
where the guy says well what is
F? Kennedy pulled this off in

1477
01:27:01,889 --> 01:27:05,609
the Senate again you know where
he goes? Well what is the what

1478
01:27:05,609 --> 01:27:08,879
is somebody sexes? Are there how
many genders are there not and

1479
01:27:08,909 --> 01:27:14,699
today's as we speak, there's no
number of genders anymore. There

1480
01:27:14,699 --> 01:27:20,969
used to be 75 and there was 35
Now it's infinite. So as the

1481
01:27:20,969 --> 01:27:25,859
genders have gone to infinity,
the pronouns have gone off the

1482
01:27:25,859 --> 01:27:26,519
rails.

1483
01:27:27,660 --> 01:27:30,750
Adam Curry: And who are we going
to be listening to hear talk

1484
01:27:30,750 --> 01:27:31,290
litany of

1485
01:27:31,290 --> 01:27:32,460
John C Dvorak: Neo pronouns

1486
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,970
Unknown: Tilak pronoun hot copy
pronouns Sun sunshine performed

1487
01:27:35,970 --> 01:27:38,520
today I'm going to show you how
to use spring springs pronouns

1488
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,980
instead of cut butter cups
prototype butterflies pronoun

1489
01:27:41,519 --> 01:27:43,649
Adam Curry: is this like jump
cutting or something? What is it

1490
01:27:43,649 --> 01:27:44,069
what is the

1491
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:46,260
John C Dvorak: lead they're all
this are all pieces of her

1492
01:27:46,290 --> 01:27:51,450
actually. Butterfly butter cup
pronouns But Teddy teddy bear

1493
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,470
that she just lit she has names
all these new vo pronouns that

1494
01:27:55,470 --> 01:27:58,590
are just like what so we're
supposed to call people by their

1495
01:27:58,590 --> 01:28:01,620
pronouns are used their pronouns
and there's an infinite number.

1496
01:28:01,980 --> 01:28:04,170
There's no way we can know what
they are.

1497
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:10,710
Adam Curry: There's a there's a
thing on Adobe, Adobe, Adobe

1498
01:28:10,710 --> 01:28:16,200
actually has a let me see if I
could find it here has a filter,

1499
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:22,050
an AI filter mind you where you
can take crap like this that is

1500
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,950
absolutely unbearable. And you
can just drag and drop it in

1501
01:28:25,950 --> 01:28:29,190
there and then it will make it
audible again. It's really it's

1502
01:28:29,190 --> 01:28:30,990
really worth looking into blue.
What's

1503
01:28:30,990 --> 01:28:31,530
John C Dvorak: it called?

1504
01:28:31,770 --> 01:28:36,660
Adam Curry: It's called Enhanced
speech near remove noise from

1505
01:28:36,660 --> 01:28:38,820
voice recordings with speech
enhancement. Oh, I

1506
01:28:38,820 --> 01:28:40,770
John C Dvorak: couldn't use this
for the Biden clip. You could

1507
01:28:40,770 --> 01:28:43,110
have use this clip here is that
is meaningless.

1508
01:28:43,380 --> 01:28:46,260
Adam Curry: So let's go hold on
because I dragged it in there

1509
01:28:46,290 --> 01:28:48,450
you're gonna drive there it is.
I'm gonna write right now and

1510
01:28:48,450 --> 01:28:52,200
let me just pick up okay hold
on. Let me just download it here

1511
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,150
hold on. Let's see how it works
out now

1512
01:28:54,210 --> 01:28:57,240
Unknown: really to let Pronin
hop papi pronouns then sunshine

1513
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,490
performed today I'm going to
show you how to use spring

1514
01:28:59,490 --> 01:29:02,220
springs pronouns Buttercup, but
it cuts prototype butterflies

1515
01:29:02,220 --> 01:29:06,180
throwing off has pronouns lead
quality pits pronoun de hos

1516
01:29:06,180 --> 01:29:09,570
pronouns boom blooms, pronouns
and Nora Moll forever forevers

1517
01:29:09,570 --> 01:29:12,660
paneer dears pronouns and their
tarts pronouns abused warm

1518
01:29:12,690 --> 01:29:16,080
cuantos roses pronoun dubbed UPS
pronouns and sweets pronouns and

1519
01:29:16,110 --> 01:29:16,470
Teddy

1520
01:29:17,460 --> 01:29:20,280
Adam Curry: Okay, that was Teddy
Bear proto the clip was not

1521
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:20,610
great.

1522
01:29:21,270 --> 01:29:25,320
John C Dvorak: I think that they
did an admirable job but now I

1523
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,020
want you to since we're doing
this in real time this the way

1524
01:29:28,020 --> 01:29:32,520
our show is I want you to run
that Biden clip into that thing.

1525
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,660
Okay, hold on that was that
Biden Iran says Iraq instead of

1526
01:29:36,660 --> 01:29:38,100
Iraq Ukraine Okay,

1527
01:29:38,190 --> 01:29:42,990
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
Let me upload here we go drag

1528
01:29:42,990 --> 01:29:47,580
and drop. Oh, it doesn't like
this for some reason. Oh, what

1529
01:29:47,580 --> 01:29:49,950
is this? Oh? Okay, hold on a
second.

1530
01:29:50,730 --> 01:29:51,420
John C Dvorak: He got Mrs.

1531
01:29:51,690 --> 01:29:54,690
Adam Curry: got mad at me clip
they got mad at me. And I was

1532
01:29:54,930 --> 01:29:57,330
mad at you. Yeah, cuz I'd
already uploaded something I

1533
01:29:57,330 --> 01:30:00,690
don't know. He's probably gonna
say you're using our AI Too much

1534
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,630
curry go away. Okay, rock. Here
we go. Let's drag it in here

1535
01:30:03,630 --> 01:30:08,280
we're enhancing speech. So I
actually considered for some

1536
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:13,050
reason it's not doing it. It
won't do Joe Biden because it's

1537
01:30:13,050 --> 01:30:17,340
against the terms of service to
make him illegible says it right

1538
01:30:17,340 --> 01:30:20,700
here. There's no such thing as
it right here. And he said

1539
01:30:20,700 --> 01:30:23,970
enhancing speech change the name
of the clip. Yeah, that's

1540
01:30:23,970 --> 01:30:27,720
exactly what I did. So yeah,
it's free. You can get this from

1541
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,930
Adobe and I've used this on
really bad interviews and I

1542
01:30:30,930 --> 01:30:33,510
considered using it for this
Biden thing, but I was like, the

1543
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:36,690
whole world has already seen
this thing. Let's do the second

1544
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:39,330
tic tock clip while I'm waiting
for that to enhance.

1545
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:43,590
John C Dvorak: Okay, now this
clip is is this is actually a

1546
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:47,880
general practitioner. This is a
doctor. This could be your

1547
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:53,700
doctor. And this is a doctor who
is I can't even remember if it's

1548
01:30:53,700 --> 01:30:57,180
a woman jaisa trans doctor or
not. I'm sorry, what am I

1549
01:30:57,180 --> 01:31:02,790
thinking? It's a non binary
doctor who's just sick of people

1550
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:05,430
not using the right pronouns.
Yes, it's

1551
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:07,080
Adam Curry: a cut because it's
hate speech.

1552
01:31:07,740 --> 01:31:10,620
Unknown: I'm sorry to hear that.
But as people have been pointing

1553
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:15,540
out, I am not a she. I noticed
that you deleted your comment

1554
01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:20,280
where you said that I most
definitely am a woman but I'm

1555
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:25,110
not my sex is female. That was
determined at my birth when my

1556
01:31:25,110 --> 01:31:27,840
doctor took one look at my
external genitalia and declared

1557
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,490
me to be female. But I am non
binary which means I am not a

1558
01:31:32,490 --> 01:31:38,460
woman and I am not a man. I am
transgender because my gender

1559
01:31:38,490 --> 01:31:43,350
does not match my six which was
determined at birth I choose to

1560
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:48,060
express myself as masculine so I
am trans masculine or trans mask

1561
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,360
my man them

1562
01:31:51,780 --> 01:31:56,220
and my name is Asha. It was
formally Natasha please do not

1563
01:31:56,220 --> 01:31:58,740
refer to me as a woman anymore.
Thank you.

1564
01:32:00,570 --> 01:32:02,070
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is a
new term I

1565
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:04,050
Adam Curry: just recently
learned this clip Man's mask was

1566
01:32:04,050 --> 01:32:06,120
the see at the end trans mask
trans

1567
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:14,820
John C Dvorak: mask t r a n s m
a s see what who can keep up

1568
01:32:14,910 --> 01:32:17,880
Adam Curry: no but the point is
please do not call me this and

1569
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,070
if you do then you'll get
reported and then you get

1570
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:24,870
written up and it that's this is
it's ultimately it's if you

1571
01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:28,050
think it's about protecting kids
it's not it's just about

1572
01:32:28,050 --> 01:32:31,380
shutting people up. It's so
obvious here's the Biden clip

1573
01:32:31,380 --> 01:32:32,880
now that it's been enhanced,

1574
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,720
Unknown: has slammed man who has
been weakened by recently banned

1575
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,810
it's hard to tell but is he
clearly winning the war and

1576
01:32:39,810 --> 01:32:44,220
rocky rooting the war at home
and we as a company common to

1577
01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:44,670
have right

1578
01:32:44,670 --> 01:32:48,300
around the world. I found this
hotset vedo

1579
01:32:48,330 --> 01:32:51,720
Adam Curry: Hazza see riffin
union it's interesting so it

1580
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,600
actually changes his voice for
some reason.

1581
01:32:54,810 --> 01:32:56,850
John C Dvorak: It changes his
voice a little bit and it makes

1582
01:32:56,850 --> 01:33:01,290
him even more muddy. I mean the
clarity of the clip is there but

1583
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:04,920
but he's kind of assuring her I
am very saying the work that

1584
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,980
very accurately is kind of
brought out

1585
01:33:07,980 --> 01:33:11,310
Adam Curry: is brought out I
don't think is good anyway was

1586
01:33:11,310 --> 01:33:14,610
good. I'll send you the link
it's worth it for a lot of

1587
01:33:14,610 --> 01:33:17,640
things it's worth it please.
Well, and with that I'd like to

1588
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,680
thank you for your currency in
the morning to you the man who

1589
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,400
put the see just now in trance
mask ladies and gentlemen say

1590
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,250
hello to my friend on the other
end the one and only Mr. John

1591
01:33:33,390 --> 01:33:35,070
John C Dvorak: crushing them
worship see boots on the ground

1592
01:33:35,070 --> 01:33:37,380
feet near subs in the water
Allah deems a nice out there

1593
01:33:37,410 --> 01:33:39,990
Adam Curry: and in the morning
trolls they're the troll room.

1594
01:33:40,140 --> 01:33:48,270
Very troll me today hands up you
ugly now what is it good number

1595
01:33:48,270 --> 01:33:50,010
for Thursday. I'm gonna Thursday

1596
01:33:50,010 --> 01:33:50,970
John C Dvorak: good numbers 18
And

1597
01:33:50,970 --> 01:33:55,830
Adam Curry: under 1904. Nice
nice. Hello trolls. Good to have

1598
01:33:55,830 --> 01:34:00,210
you here. I'm whatever happened
on the last show people liked

1599
01:34:00,210 --> 01:34:03,810
it. People got what they liked
what we did on the last show

1600
01:34:03,810 --> 01:34:07,860
people got value from it. Oh,
they found it valuable. And the

1601
01:34:07,860 --> 01:34:11,490
way they express that is by
sending us very long donation

1602
01:34:11,490 --> 01:34:12,450
notes that no

1603
01:34:12,810 --> 01:34:14,370
John C Dvorak: donation notes
are out of control.

1604
01:34:15,420 --> 01:34:17,490
Adam Curry: You don't want to
miss the donation segment

1605
01:34:17,490 --> 01:34:19,590
because there's some funny stuff
in here and there's always new

1606
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:22,770
information that comes to light
when people send it oh, what are

1607
01:34:22,770 --> 01:34:23,700
we drinking today?

1608
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:26,100
John C Dvorak: A Bud Light.

1609
01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:28,980
Adam Curry: No, you're you're
lying. You lie.

1610
01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:32,790
John C Dvorak: I turned out I
found another can of the polar

1611
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:36,300
plane on flavored seltzer.

1612
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:41,460
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
I just got so here's the here's

1613
01:34:41,460 --> 01:34:46,590
that here's the donation segment
clip. If you're if you left then

1614
01:34:46,590 --> 01:34:49,110
you're missing this. Are you
ready? Here you go.

1615
01:34:49,140 --> 01:34:51,540
Unknown: Listen up. Dentists are
now warning about the dangers of

1616
01:34:51,540 --> 01:34:54,930
seltzer now that the drink is
becoming more popular than ever.

1617
01:34:55,110 --> 01:34:58,680
Many use the carbonated water as
a low sugar replacement for soda

1618
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,130
but dentists are warning that
ulcer has assets that can harm

1619
01:35:02,130 --> 01:35:05,910
or even wipe out tooth enamel.
So they recommend rinsing your

1620
01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:09,480
mouth with regular water between
seltzers to wash out that acid

1621
01:35:09,690 --> 01:35:11,400
or just drink with a straw

1622
01:35:12,509 --> 01:35:15,659
Adam Curry: drink it with a
drink it with a straw hold

1623
01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:19,920
John C Dvorak: on is what acid
well I

1624
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,070
Adam Curry: actually asked
Maverick he didn't get back to

1625
01:35:23,070 --> 01:35:25,620
me I tried to get him he's
probably in surgery because I

1626
01:35:25,620 --> 01:35:28,590
want to know what this is about
is this because it just seems to

1627
01:35:28,590 --> 01:35:32,220
me like a beverage war of some
sort. I doubt that this

1628
01:35:32,220 --> 01:35:35,310
John C Dvorak: is seltzer is
sparkling water there's no

1629
01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:36,090
difference.

1630
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,330
Adam Curry: Well, you heard it
right here. You heard it

1631
01:35:39,420 --> 01:35:41,340
John C Dvorak: may if they're
adding something like if you

1632
01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:44,010
want to talk about something
that could go after your tooth

1633
01:35:44,010 --> 01:35:47,880
enamel you have to look at at
the flavored beverages like Coca

1634
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,560
Cola and Pepsi Cola which have
phosphoric acid you can see it

1635
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:57,360
on the label phosphoric acid in
the product which is kind of

1636
01:35:57,420 --> 01:36:02,400
caustic but seltzer is Seltzer

1637
01:36:02,490 --> 01:36:05,340
Adam Curry: and check this out
just hot off the press from

1638
01:36:05,340 --> 01:36:11,130
Reuters today exclusive. W H O
's Cancer Research Agency say

1639
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:17,430
aspartame sweetener a possible
carcinogen. No, you don't say

1640
01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:22,410
how long we've been talking
about aspartame as long as we've

1641
01:36:22,410 --> 01:36:25,890
been talking about the American
thing the anything Yeah.

1642
01:36:26,730 --> 01:36:32,520
Unbelievable. anyway enjoy
yourself sir there. I will I can

1643
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,310
tell you exactly what it feels
like when you have to have oral

1644
01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:40,290
oral work done. Well thank you
trolls for hanging up the very

1645
01:36:40,290 --> 01:36:44,100
trollee today you know this
there's always a gummy nerds and

1646
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:48,180
an Atmel Kurtz and these people
like I don't like this This

1647
01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:51,450
isn't this is boring. This shows
no good. And I was like where's

1648
01:36:51,450 --> 01:36:52,920
your podcast? Host no

1649
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:53,670
Unknown: good going on

1650
01:36:53,670 --> 01:36:58,650
Adam Curry: show dickweed
where's your show? Blue douche

1651
01:36:58,650 --> 01:37:04,620
33 Please. Now you can join the
trolls and fight them that's

1652
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:07,050
what people do they fight back
and forth is kind of funny and

1653
01:37:07,050 --> 01:37:10,080
it's it's almost an unmoderated
chat room you got really got to

1654
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,540
be doing something weird before
you get kicked out of there. Now

1655
01:37:12,570 --> 01:37:13,890
I didn't even boot anyway

1656
01:37:13,890 --> 01:37:15,600
John C Dvorak: has to be kind of
aimed at Adam.

1657
01:37:16,890 --> 01:37:22,770
Adam Curry: No one is aimed at
me that everyone loves it. No,

1658
01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:27,090
you have to like do a flood of
paste flood or something. Now if

1659
01:37:27,090 --> 01:37:29,220
they're just trolling me they
love it. They think it's funny.

1660
01:37:29,550 --> 01:37:36,870
Yeah. Look at him get no mad.
Now the way to do this, if

1661
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:40,080
you're gonna be a troll, get a
new podcast app and podcast

1662
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:44,100
apps.com You can use fountain I
like pod verse because it gives

1663
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:47,970
you an alert but also podcast
guru, podcast addict, curio

1664
01:37:47,970 --> 01:37:51,120
caster, you can listen live, you
get the troll room right there

1665
01:37:51,150 --> 01:37:55,470
in your in your app. You can do
all kinds of fun things. It's

1666
01:37:55,470 --> 01:37:59,400
modern, and you can import all
your legacy podcasts into it.

1667
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,030
Everything works. Drop Apple,
please drop. If you're using

1668
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:06,930
Google. If you're listening on a
web page, get one of these apps.

1669
01:38:07,290 --> 01:38:12,450
It's the future. I'm 10 years
early, but I'm always right. You

1670
01:38:12,450 --> 01:38:15,750
can also follow us on the meme
station known as no agenda

1671
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:22,230
social.com People are fighting
over there too. It's something

1672
01:38:22,260 --> 01:38:25,020
there's something going on in
the air. The trolls are fighting

1673
01:38:25,020 --> 01:38:29,700
amongst themselves are calling
each other names. You know, it's

1674
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:35,970
there. They're posting bad memes
1000s of them What do you miss

1675
01:38:35,970 --> 01:38:38,430
something is happening. I can
smell a field there's something

1676
01:38:38,430 --> 01:38:43,110
going on the air? Not what? I
don't know this. They're upset

1677
01:38:43,110 --> 01:38:46,230
and nervous about somebody's
nervous energy they have and

1678
01:38:46,230 --> 01:38:48,720
then they start doing all these
things. And you know, they stop

1679
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:53,340
thinking straight. Yeah, follow
Adam and no agenda social.com

1680
01:38:53,340 --> 01:38:56,700
Jhansi Dvorak at no agenda
social.com And as part of our

1681
01:38:56,700 --> 01:39:00,750
value for value model, which is
very simple. You know, you can

1682
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,690
if you're listening to the show,
we presume that you keep

1683
01:39:03,690 --> 01:39:07,380
listening because you get some
value out of it. If you don't

1684
01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:11,310
give any value back, you have to
question your life choices. If

1685
01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:14,580
you're not sending something
back to us now it can be all

1686
01:39:14,580 --> 01:39:18,990
kinds of things except memes and
trolling comments. If you if

1687
01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:21,510
you're doing something
productive for the community

1688
01:39:21,540 --> 01:39:25,590
community, then we appreciate it
like our artists. Another thing

1689
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:29,970
you can see in the in the new
podcast app is the art that is

1690
01:39:29,970 --> 01:39:34,020
used a new one every single show
which is submitted by some

1691
01:39:34,020 --> 01:39:37,830
fantastic artists who just
provide this out of the goodness

1692
01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:40,440
of their valuable hearts
returning it for the value the

1693
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:43,800
show provides and we really
appreciate it and in

1694
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,800
particularly want to thank the
artists number one on the

1695
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,340
generator Sir Paul couture,
moving up his very own rankings

1696
01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:54,900
for the artwork for episode 1567
appropriately titled Wagner the

1697
01:39:54,900 --> 01:40:00,570
dog and how could we not choose
a hot dog caring of flag that

1698
01:40:00,570 --> 01:40:07,260
says false on it. Russian made
180 degrees. I mean, yellow

1699
01:40:07,260 --> 01:40:10,020
seems to be the color of art
these days for some reason, I'm

1700
01:40:10,020 --> 01:40:13,740
noticing that a lot of yellow is
being used. Have you noticed

1701
01:40:13,740 --> 01:40:17,340
this always a winner is yellow
always a winner Is that Is that

1702
01:40:17,340 --> 01:40:17,850
a fact?

1703
01:40:18,330 --> 01:40:21,630
John C Dvorak: They use there
was a study done on packaging,

1704
01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:25,290
software packaging. And they
determined that most of the

1705
01:40:25,290 --> 01:40:28,140
thing that jumps off the shelf
and turret is the days when they

1706
01:40:28,140 --> 01:40:32,100
have computer stores. What jumps
off the shelf is black lettering

1707
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:33,840
and a yellow background
packaging.

1708
01:40:33,870 --> 01:40:35,610
Adam Curry: So what would an
example of that be in the

1709
01:40:35,610 --> 01:40:36,660
software world?

1710
01:40:37,470 --> 01:40:39,120
John C Dvorak: Lotus was Lotus
oh

1711
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:40,830
Adam Curry: right Lotus 123
probably

1712
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:43,620
John C Dvorak: than that then
the only reason they use those

1713
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:46,050
colors because of the market
research they did?

1714
01:40:46,380 --> 01:40:49,590
Adam Curry: Well, poster Paul
couture nailed it because he had

1715
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:52,590
black letters on a yellow
background and it was also there

1716
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:55,740
were other people who did hot
dog art which some which we

1717
01:40:55,740 --> 01:41:00,060
liked but it didn't I mean, as
you said, this one had motion

1718
01:41:00,150 --> 01:41:03,660
you know the hot dog is marching
and and the false the false flag

1719
01:41:03,660 --> 01:41:07,230
and the literal false flag was
just too funny. So you know, but

1720
01:41:07,230 --> 01:41:11,790
we again value returned by the
artist for the value we provide

1721
01:41:11,820 --> 01:41:14,730
and we actually turn around and
give them some value by telling

1722
01:41:14,730 --> 01:41:18,270
them why we didn't choose their
art which is which is something

1723
01:41:18,270 --> 01:41:21,330
that you will not get in the
professional art world ever.

1724
01:41:22,020 --> 01:41:25,920
Ever. You just won't choose your
but they'll never tell you why

1725
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,370
they tell you they'll never tell
you what sucks. Emphasize it

1726
01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:33,870
just sucks man. So we had let me
see we'll be had I kind of liked

1727
01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:40,740
Francisco Scara mangoes U turn
Wagner U turn sign with a

1728
01:41:41,219 --> 01:41:43,379
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I liked it
too. I also like the hot dog

1729
01:41:43,379 --> 01:41:46,679
done by certain net Ned. Let me
see which one that was cute.

1730
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,460
Adam Curry: And he had the
Ukraine flag which was very very

1731
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:53,850
close to me and they're so
similar those hotdogs and that

1732
01:41:53,850 --> 01:41:58,320
was some kind of some kind of
clip art they've both licensed

1733
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:03,750
and mangled to their own have no
idea. I also very much like

1734
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:07,110
Taunton Neil's ding dongs now
with Ling Ling.

1735
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:10,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I liked
this piece as a standalone piece

1736
01:42:10,380 --> 01:42:15,150
but it was a little ding dong is
not so much. You know, it's just

1737
01:42:15,150 --> 01:42:19,620
a throw away. It's just that it
was It wasn't as connective

1738
01:42:20,460 --> 01:42:23,640
connected to the show as I'd
like even though I'm the one who

1739
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,840
said Ling Ling and ding dong,
which was hilarious. Yeah, that

1740
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,460
was I thought that was their
names but

1741
01:42:30,630 --> 01:42:34,440
Adam Curry: capitalist agenda
also had the communist wieners

1742
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:38,340
which is the hammer and sickle
with the high was cute. It was

1743
01:42:38,340 --> 01:42:41,400
cute. Yeah, it was more than
kind of cute named Kenny. Ben

1744
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,890
had a Wagner that there was a
lot Okay,

1745
01:42:43,890 --> 01:42:46,980
John C Dvorak: let's stop and
say there was a lot of nice

1746
01:42:46,980 --> 01:42:50,370
pieces any which any one of
which could have been used. It

1747
01:42:50,370 --> 01:42:54,240
just so happens that Couture's
piece was

1748
01:42:54,510 --> 01:42:57,660
Adam Curry: was better was
dynamite. Now you use the

1749
01:42:57,690 --> 01:43:01,080
network sleep well at night. The
moon with the

1750
01:43:01,290 --> 01:43:03,060
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I just
thought that was a pleasant

1751
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:04,350
piece of art. Yeah,

1752
01:43:04,380 --> 01:43:07,020
Adam Curry: and I want to give
an honorable mention you do you

1753
01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:11,400
hated it. You just disgusted
you. I really like dirty jersey.

1754
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,810
Whores woke kid you know,
leaning against the television

1755
01:43:15,810 --> 01:43:19,140
screen. We had the rainbow on
it. I really thought that was

1756
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:19,590
cute.

1757
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,520
John C Dvorak: If I wasn't
disgusted by one thing that

1758
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,580
looks like a test pattern of any
sort that I've seen a million

1759
01:43:26,580 --> 01:43:30,000
times. I thought the art was
somewhat simplistic. I liked a

1760
01:43:30,450 --> 01:43:34,890
dyed hair is kind of cute. But I
didn't think it was artsy

1761
01:43:34,890 --> 01:43:35,370
enough.

1762
01:43:36,660 --> 01:43:40,320
Adam Curry: Well, it deserved to
lose again sir Poker Tour, but

1763
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,800
still it was I thought it was It
wasn't wasn't bad at all. Wasn't

1764
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:44,340
bad. Yeah, I

1765
01:43:44,340 --> 01:43:45,690
John C Dvorak: didn't like it at
all. Okay.

1766
01:43:46,620 --> 01:43:48,750
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
to all the artists who

1767
01:43:48,750 --> 01:43:51,930
participate in this, we really
appreciate it. It really, when

1768
01:43:51,930 --> 01:43:54,540
we're done with the show, and
let's face it, after three,

1769
01:43:54,540 --> 01:43:57,090
three and a half hours of show
we're done with each other, we

1770
01:43:57,090 --> 01:44:01,200
still have something fun to do.
And we can feel we can pick art

1771
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,020
and and really, you know, it's
like, I'll go into the bathroom.

1772
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:06,150
I really gotta pee John's
already done that, of course,

1773
01:44:06,150 --> 01:44:09,570
during the the meetup segment,
he has the bathroom nearby, I

1774
01:44:09,570 --> 01:44:12,660
gotta walk a little bit further.
And then we're all reset. You

1775
01:44:12,660 --> 01:44:14,940
know, we're like, hey, let's
argue about some art. And it's

1776
01:44:14,940 --> 01:44:17,790
it's good. We appreciate it.
It's very valuable to us and

1777
01:44:17,790 --> 01:44:21,060
valuable to the show. It looks
great in the podcast apps, and

1778
01:44:21,060 --> 01:44:25,530
we believe that it contributes
to people listening. Now of

1779
01:44:25,530 --> 01:44:30,930
course, it does as art does, we,
it's very important that you

1780
01:44:30,930 --> 01:44:33,420
deliver your time talent and
treasure you don't have to do it

1781
01:44:33,420 --> 01:44:37,170
every single show some people do
it once a year to do it on a on

1782
01:44:37,170 --> 01:44:40,290
a weekly basis and do it in
little bits and pieces. It's all

1783
01:44:40,290 --> 01:44:43,830
okay. In return when you come in
as an executive or Associate

1784
01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:47,130
Executive Producer, we give you
that credit as a full lifetime

1785
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,190
approved credit show business
approves of it. That's why you

1786
01:44:50,190 --> 01:44:53,880
can find almost 800 of them on
IMDb but you can also use it in

1787
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,060
LinkedIn that you might get a
lot of people hitting you up for

1788
01:44:57,060 --> 01:45:01,080
jobs. You know if you have a job
for them And you may want to do

1789
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,720
it the other way around in that
case we're happy to vouch for

1790
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,420
you if anyone questions your
credit as an executive or

1791
01:45:06,420 --> 01:45:09,240
Associate Executive Producer of
the no agenda show and for

1792
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:14,910
episode 1568 we kick it off with
Stephen George from Finland

1793
01:45:14,910 --> 01:45:16,800
Minnesota John you have a note

1794
01:45:18,359 --> 01:45:23,309
John C Dvorak: Yes, I do. Steven
rice been listening to every

1795
01:45:23,309 --> 01:45:26,489
episode get your pen up because
he's got some requests for the

1796
01:45:26,519 --> 01:45:31,859
jingles No. Oh yeah, that too.
Sorry. I'm thinking that that

1797
01:45:31,859 --> 01:45:34,589
roundtable Oh, I'm listening
every episode and getting plenty

1798
01:45:34,589 --> 01:45:36,869
of value over the next two
years. There's going to be my

1799
01:45:36,869 --> 01:45:44,279
first donation. This is 1033 dot
33. So big donation. Wow, nice.

1800
01:45:44,309 --> 01:45:47,159
I've been putting off donating
until I can come up with a witty

1801
01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:52,349
dead joke that would make my for
Human Resources chuckle Oh, but

1802
01:45:52,349 --> 01:45:58,169
as they all know, their dad is
no comedian. Oh, well. I'd like

1803
01:45:58,169 --> 01:46:03,779
to be dubbed sir Cucaracha of
the Northwoods at the roundtable

1804
01:46:04,109 --> 01:46:07,049
so in other words, we got no dad
joke out of him. No zero dad

1805
01:46:07,049 --> 01:46:15,449
joke. I'll have a Ragnar
Minnesota rye whiskey. R Okay.

1806
01:46:15,449 --> 01:46:19,379
Na R Minnesota. Bri whiskey.
Never heard of it yet, but it's

1807
01:46:19,379 --> 01:46:22,589
probably good. Probably 10
Costco pepperoni pizza.

1808
01:46:22,770 --> 01:46:26,010
Adam Curry: That now that that
pizza is pretty good. Yeah, I

1809
01:46:26,010 --> 01:46:29,370
would take a Tums with that.
Although I prefer the hotdog at

1810
01:46:29,370 --> 01:46:31,260
Costco. The hotdog

1811
01:46:31,260 --> 01:46:33,930
John C Dvorak: at Costco says is
probably one of those last most

1812
01:46:33,930 --> 01:46:36,930
cost effective winner outside
the chicken.

1813
01:46:36,990 --> 01:46:40,410
Adam Curry: It's like $1.25 and
you get the hot dog and

1814
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,590
John C Dvorak: 65 here What do
you mean a buck? 25 You're

1815
01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:44,670
Adam Curry: in California man.

1816
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:46,890
John C Dvorak: There's no way
it's a buck 25 There

1817
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,490
Adam Curry: I thought it was a
buck 25 Last time I was there I

1818
01:46:50,490 --> 01:46:52,740
may be wrong. Maybe you are I
may be wrong.

1819
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:56,520
John C Dvorak: Well Dynamo could
use some house okay, we continue

1820
01:46:56,550 --> 01:47:00,870
Yes, I could use some house
buying karma business starting

1821
01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:05,700
karma and land development our
two d two karma. Wow. Okay,

1822
01:47:05,730 --> 01:47:08,730
Adam Curry: well that means you
you get some RTD to karma.

1823
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:10,440
Governor we got more

1824
01:47:11,099 --> 01:47:14,219
John C Dvorak: jiggles for the
kids. I need a Virginia's a

1825
01:47:14,219 --> 01:47:20,669
sleepy creepy Joe. Brand and
poop pants. Noodle gun dubby Tec

1826
01:47:20,669 --> 01:47:25,229
seven. And if it's not too much
to ask, and it is good. You play

1827
01:47:25,229 --> 01:47:31,409
the everything's a scam song at
the end of the show. Okay, my

1828
01:47:31,409 --> 01:47:32,729
kiddos, sleep.

1829
01:47:32,730 --> 01:47:36,870
Adam Curry: Hold on hold on the
sleepy Joe. Brandon poops his

1830
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:37,860
pants.

1831
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,190
John C Dvorak: Got to know
that's that jingle? Yeah, Little

1832
01:47:41,310 --> 01:47:46,500
John and WT C seven. Exactly how
those fit together. I have no

1833
01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:47,010
idea

1834
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,860
Adam Curry: right noodle gun.
Hold on a second. Okay, I got

1835
01:47:49,860 --> 01:47:58,860
this over here. Got the scammed
and I'm fact noodle gun. Man.

1836
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,040
This is so much yes. Okay. obtc

1837
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,490
John C Dvorak: Seven will go
away. Wow. And he was

1838
01:48:05,490 --> 01:48:08,520
everything's a scam song at the
end if you can. This is already

1839
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:13,650
too much. My kiddos. He says
specifically. Love that one. And

1840
01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:19,920
yes, I do call them kiddos all
the time. Sorry, guys. Thanks a

1841
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:24,480
bunch for what you do. And then
he's it. Tasha, I'm going to

1842
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:30,510
send you a copy of this. His 11
year old daughter says Gwyneth

1843
01:48:30,510 --> 01:48:33,480
Vir I think are going to Uverse
it's hard to say read his

1844
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:37,530
writing whenever he was a comics
he she did two comics for us.

1845
01:48:38,220 --> 01:48:44,310
And one of them is funny as with
about you, you're up. I'll send

1846
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:46,650
these to you. But they're funny.
I just give her credit for

1847
01:48:46,650 --> 01:48:49,170
giving to funny cartoons that
are hard to explain.

1848
01:48:49,230 --> 01:48:50,850
Adam Curry: Alright, we're done.
Let me see if I

1849
01:48:51,870 --> 01:48:55,950
Unknown: know he would go Should
we go?

1850
01:49:00,270 --> 01:49:01,170
With a minute

1851
01:49:07,380 --> 01:49:10,860
I get to my pasta Glads locked
and loaded

1852
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,930
John C Dvorak: nailed it. Dame
can the show's over.

1853
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,920
Adam Curry: Yeah. Dame Catherine
is in Bangkok. And she comes in

1854
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,460
with $1,006.96.

1855
01:49:32,940 --> 01:49:35,550
John C Dvorak: Yes, she's our
she's been a supporter forever.

1856
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,300
But she tells us a little story
here in this note that I find

1857
01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:40,200
distressing. I don't

1858
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,050
Adam Curry: think she's been a
supporter at all. Yes, she

1859
01:49:43,050 --> 01:49:47,340
John C Dvorak: has this cat that
this is the woman in Bangkok

1860
01:49:47,340 --> 01:49:50,520
that lets out of her apartment
and we've mentioned her for

1861
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,740
years she's been I don't think
she's

1862
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,620
Adam Curry: I don't think she's
ever I don't think she's ever

1863
01:49:55,620 --> 01:49:56,940
sent any donations.

1864
01:49:57,570 --> 01:50:00,720
John C Dvorak: I think she has.
Well I No she we've been in

1865
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:01,890
contact with her forever.

1866
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,310
Adam Curry: She says I saw Adam
on the Max Keiser show and 2016

1867
01:50:05,310 --> 01:50:08,550
walking down a very noisy Austin
street Max got me interested in

1868
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:12,150
Bitcoin and crypto in 2015 I've
done very well for myself, so

1869
01:50:12,150 --> 01:50:16,350
I'm donating this $1,000 in
Bitcoin as a switcheroo for my

1870
01:50:16,350 --> 01:50:20,370
son JD Sutton in Durango. No JD
Sutton sounds familiar?

1871
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:25,170
Definitely. And it was a Bitcoin
donation let me just put JD

1872
01:50:25,170 --> 01:50:29,880
Sutton here now to make sure
that we do that right. Please

1873
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:34,050
Knight him sir JD of the
shimmering deep sea. I first

1874
01:50:34,050 --> 01:50:36,240
listened to the no agenda show
and heard the little girl scream

1875
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:40,710
Shut up slave. I thought OMG
these guys are pedos into s&m?

1876
01:50:43,260 --> 01:50:48,690
Are you sure? This is what you
think it is? Yet I continued

1877
01:50:48,690 --> 01:50:51,480
listening and laughing to this
day. I now live in Bangkok and

1878
01:50:51,480 --> 01:50:53,940
learn more about what's going on
in America from YouTube than

1879
01:50:53,940 --> 01:50:56,790
anyone else. Else. Love the
boots on the ground reports Yes,

1880
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:58,800
I listened to the donation
segments as well. Yes, you

1881
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,830
should. Could you please create
a Bitcoin jingle like the one

1882
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:06,510
you did for Joe Rogan donations?
Thank you in advance. Oh, I

1883
01:51:06,510 --> 01:51:11,640
didn't do a Bitcoin jingle. But
I have one for you. Don't worry

1884
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:15,390
about that. I've been an expat
living abroad since 2004. The

1885
01:51:15,390 --> 01:51:19,530
Patriot Act was my red line. I
lived 10 years in Zanzibar, an

1886
01:51:19,530 --> 01:51:22,470
island off East Africa. I'm
familiar. I had a gorgeous

1887
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:26,370
rooftop Penthouse and one day my
farmer friend Suleyman and I

1888
01:51:26,370 --> 01:51:29,370
went and bought some flowers on
the way home Suliman said We

1889
01:51:29,370 --> 01:51:32,130
zanzibaris don't grow flowers
because we were poor we only

1890
01:51:32,130 --> 01:51:35,370
grow food. Then he said when I'm
rich I'm gonna grow flowers. I

1891
01:51:35,370 --> 01:51:38,220
asked what is the definition of
being rich? Without hesitation

1892
01:51:38,220 --> 01:51:41,400
he replied being riches having
enough to share with others.

1893
01:51:41,730 --> 01:51:45,690
I've been a hodler for years. I
know there are more of you out

1894
01:51:45,690 --> 01:51:48,960
there now is the time to rise up
and support the best podcast in

1895
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:53,310
the universe with Bitcoin share
the wealth Dame Catherine crypto

1896
01:51:53,310 --> 01:51:57,870
granny of Bangkok. Please take
me out with a little girl she

1897
01:51:57,870 --> 01:52:04,500
wants to the Bitcoin jingle a
little girl yay and a shut up

1898
01:52:04,500 --> 01:52:06,270
slave. I think we can do that
for you.

1899
01:52:08,670 --> 01:52:11,670
Unknown: That's and all hell is
gonna break loose and you're

1900
01:52:11,670 --> 01:52:12,540
gonna need a Bitcoin

1901
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:19,020
Adam Curry: slave JD Sutton on
deck. You got it? Thank you

1902
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:19,740
crypto granny.

1903
01:52:20,610 --> 01:52:26,340
John C Dvorak: long note from
circumvent 34567 Hey, Adam. Yes,

1904
01:52:26,370 --> 01:52:31,620
just a quick note it was Dame G
money's birthday on Monday 26th

1905
01:52:31,620 --> 01:52:34,500
June and I sent a donation in
for that but it somehow got

1906
01:52:34,500 --> 01:52:35,010
missed.

1907
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,630
Adam Curry: I sent it to the
wrong PayPal.

1908
01:52:38,430 --> 01:52:41,070
John C Dvorak: To Jhansi Dvorak
company pay pal send it

1909
01:52:41,070 --> 01:52:45,000
Adam Curry: to the old one, the
old one. So But still I'll take

1910
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,520
the blame. It's my fault. I'm
sorry. If he

1911
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,370
John C Dvorak: says it's your
fault. It's my Did you give her

1912
01:52:50,370 --> 01:52:54,600
a late birthday shout out. Yeah,
of course. Of course. Also, why

1913
01:52:54,600 --> 01:53:00,660
do people call Dylan Mulvaney T.
G. He is not t g is a woman's

1914
01:53:00,660 --> 01:53:03,780
parody, like Dame Edna everage.

1915
01:53:03,810 --> 01:53:07,410
Adam Curry: Who's now deceased?
Yeah. Barry Humphries. No, I

1916
01:53:07,410 --> 01:53:11,370
John C Dvorak: would have called
Barry Humphries. TG Dylan

1917
01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:15,450
Mulvaney is a shitty actor
playing a role as a woman cuz he

1918
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:19,350
couldn't get work as a man. She
never even bothered taking on a

1919
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:25,110
female name. Just my two cents
worth. I have I attached an ISO

1920
01:53:25,110 --> 01:53:28,260
of Ted Cruz thanking you for
your courage, which could be an

1921
01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:31,890
endless show I so for you. This
is from a hearing was Riley

1922
01:53:31,890 --> 01:53:37,890
Gaines, a swimmer who tied tied
with Lisa Lea Thompson. Oh, and

1923
01:53:37,890 --> 01:53:40,680
this will make me a baron. Not
sure whether there's a size

1924
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,500
restriction on protectorates,
but I would like to be the Baron

1925
01:53:43,500 --> 01:53:45,990
of the Northern Territory if you
haven't seen that promotional

1926
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:51,870
stuff. Here's the link. They are
somewhat irrelevant reverent.

1927
01:53:52,230 --> 01:53:55,080
Anyway, thank you for your
courage. Great show. As always,

1928
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:59,310
if I can get a goat car man, uh,
you are going to love President

1929
01:53:59,310 --> 01:53:59,940
Trump

1930
01:54:00,030 --> 01:54:02,250
Adam Curry: that we don't have a
you're going to love president I

1931
01:54:02,250 --> 01:54:05,220
never heard that either. But
I'll do this for you. I'll do

1932
01:54:05,220 --> 01:54:10,200
any wants goat karma. So they
did dumps they call them dumps

1933
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:18,120
big massive dump that should be
good enough we go to Alan green

1934
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:24,510
in Ogden, Utah. 333 Dots 33. And
you know, the Biden No, no, no,

1935
01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:27,690
no, that was your clip that's
not a jingle we I didn't I saw

1936
01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:29,490
that. Right. Did you make an ISO
of that?

1937
01:54:30,030 --> 01:54:33,030
John C Dvorak: No, you'd have to
look it up. Yes, still in the

1938
01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:34,500
pile? Yeah, but

1939
01:54:34,500 --> 01:54:35,820
Adam Curry: what was it called?
Because

1940
01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:38,250
John C Dvorak: you like didn't
make it into a show mix? Yeah,

1941
01:54:38,250 --> 01:54:43,920
but what would the ISO be
called? No, no, no. No, I wish

1942
01:54:43,950 --> 01:54:46,140
should be ISO No.

1943
01:54:46,740 --> 01:54:49,650
Adam Curry: Now we have an ISO
No, but I'm looking for the one

1944
01:54:49,650 --> 01:54:52,200
that the recent clip that you
had, and I yeah,

1945
01:54:52,230 --> 01:54:55,380
John C Dvorak: that I also
turned that in as an ISO. Well,

1946
01:54:55,380 --> 01:54:56,790
I think that's it. No,

1947
01:54:57,780 --> 01:55:00,450
Adam Curry: it's not. Well, no,
I don't have it. It's It's not

1948
01:55:00,450 --> 01:55:02,100
here. That's just not true.

1949
01:55:02,460 --> 01:55:03,570
John C Dvorak: Okay, what did
forget it?

1950
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,630
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. In The
Morning John Adam Joe Rogan

1951
01:55:06,630 --> 01:55:14,580
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01:55:55,110 --> 01:55:57,780
who I've also been in contact
with with no agenda social

1966
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:01,920
action of course are are racing
demon who is winning left and

1967
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:05,010
right so you'll be in Formula
One before we're dead. I love

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01:56:05,010 --> 01:56:07,590
you no agenda I love you John
and Adam thank you for your

1969
01:56:07,590 --> 01:56:11,460
service jingles Trump I'm going
to come by and no no, no, no.

1970
01:56:11,490 --> 01:56:15,180
How about I do How about to do
on Obama? No, no, no, no. That

1971
01:56:15,180 --> 01:56:17,760
should that should make you feel
somewhat better. Working out I'm

1972
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:18,510
gonna come

1973
01:56:19,349 --> 01:56:23,159
Unknown: get yah yah yah. Yah.
Yah. Yah. Yah. Yah. Bama

1974
01:56:25,710 --> 01:56:30,720
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, no,
no, no, no no no. Karma.

1975
01:56:32,580 --> 01:56:39,030
Matthew, rack wall I think
that'd be a CHW al in the land

1976
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:43,320
in Wisconsin. Looks like. Quite
a few episodes ago, John brought

1977
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,140
up IBM Watson while talking
about AI and it reminded me of

1978
01:56:46,140 --> 01:56:49,650
the time work in a small
startup. We leveraged Watson to

1979
01:56:49,650 --> 01:56:53,370
consume news articles and match
products relevant to the item.

1980
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,910
The article in our Add Widget.
Surely after going live or

1981
01:56:56,910 --> 01:57:01,050
receive panic calls about our
widget, it suggested children's

1982
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:05,370
underwear for an article about
child abuse and molestation.

1983
01:57:05,850 --> 01:57:10,320
Thank you AI. And shortly after
that is suggested fire starting

1984
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,510
supplies for an article about a
house that burned.

1985
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,950
Adam Curry: That's IBM AI at
work.

1986
01:57:16,980 --> 01:57:20,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah. As a result
of widget was quickly removed

1987
01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:23,820
from the hard news section. You
think IBM Watson then became an

1988
01:57:23,820 --> 01:57:27,510
excessively expensive keyword
matcher for sports articles, and

1989
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:31,050
sports paraphernalia. However,
when we told investors that we

1990
01:57:31,050 --> 01:57:36,540
were leveraging IBM's AI Watson
it really wooed them. Hi, love

1991
01:57:36,540 --> 01:57:39,060
is lit. Thanks you for the best
podcast in the universe. Can I

1992
01:57:39,060 --> 01:57:44,250
get an AI Sharpton mitt mix? On
June 29? Is my 33rd birthday.

1993
01:57:44,250 --> 01:57:46,710
Can you add me to the list?
You're on the list? Thank you.

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01:57:46,830 --> 01:57:49,290
Adam Curry: We need an AI
Sharpton. All I got is Al

1995
01:57:49,290 --> 01:57:49,800
Sharpton

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01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:55,110
Unknown: night is the measure of
whether the country begins in

1997
01:57:55,110 --> 01:58:00,240
the state of Wisconsin a
national drive to push back or

1998
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:05,280
whether we have more to go to
build a movement of resistance

1999
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:13,860
but resist yeah much. We must
and we will much about that. Be

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01:58:13,860 --> 01:58:14,400
committed

2001
01:58:14,430 --> 01:58:16,830
Adam Curry: therapy. There are
people who can do that whole

2002
01:58:16,830 --> 01:58:21,570
thing from front to back. I love
that. And do you need karma no

2003
01:58:21,570 --> 01:58:26,430
just sharpen surveilled is in
Palmetto Florida 333 33. Adam

2004
01:58:26,430 --> 01:58:29,220
and John you guys are killing it
with a no agenda podcast. It's

2005
01:58:29,220 --> 01:58:32,280
like a breath of fresh air in
the world where news feels more

2006
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,640
like a broken record every day.
Your value for value model is

2007
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,280
pure genius. Cutting out the
commercials and letting us

2008
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,640
listeners show our appreciation
directly is the way to go.

2009
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,730
Thanks for the hours of thought
provoking entertainment and

2010
01:58:44,730 --> 01:58:48,240
here's to many more attaches my
accounting for a title change of

2011
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,780
Baron to vie count on my way to
URL please change my title to

2012
01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:55,290
surveilled vie count of female
region number four I would

2013
01:58:55,290 --> 01:58:59,430
appreciate a little health karma
and anything Sharpton surveilled

2014
01:58:59,430 --> 01:59:10,560
by Count FEMA Region four and
ESP ICT you've got karma

2015
01:59:13,500 --> 01:59:16,470
John C Dvorak: sir Nacho
Alcatraz is the note of the day

2016
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:22,290
with he's in Mexico and he says
ITM from Mexico Caballeros so

2017
01:59:22,290 --> 01:59:25,320
Nacho Alcatraz 33333 and a
potter

2018
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,980
Adam Curry: Manyana to you
Nikolai nickel off is a

2019
01:59:28,980 --> 01:59:33,390
northborough Massachusetts 333
dot 33 Happy St Peters and Paul

2020
01:59:33,390 --> 01:59:36,450
day thanks for all you do no
jingles no karma. Thank you

2021
01:59:36,450 --> 01:59:36,990
Nicola.

2022
01:59:38,070 --> 01:59:42,150
John C Dvorak: Benjamin Bower in
Placerville, California is up

2023
01:59:42,150 --> 01:59:47,760
there in the area where Dana is
Oh, thanks for making me laugh

2024
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,520
at the insane world we live in
to your listener first time

2025
01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:55,230
donation her Gian JRE Joe Rogan
donation in need of a dude

2026
01:59:55,230 --> 01:59:59,280
douching and some yet karma Keep
up the good work boys Eldorado

2027
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:00,510
Slayer Turkey

2028
02:00:02,190 --> 02:00:05,940
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
you've got

2029
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:15,240
Adam Curry: Chris serve Valera
Superleggera, Ocala, Florida

2030
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:18,810
333. Adam and John, I'm in
desperate need of a de douche.

2031
02:00:20,340 --> 02:00:25,080
You've been deep deuced. I would
like to call out Glenn Bukowski

2032
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:29,700
Esquire as a douchebag. Many
years ago Glenn hit me in the

2033
02:00:29,700 --> 02:00:32,250
mouth when we were in law school
since then both of us have

2034
02:00:32,250 --> 02:00:35,640
become lawyers here in the Free
State of Florida. However, while

2035
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:38,670
Glenn donated prior to being
called to the Bar he has yet to

2036
02:00:38,670 --> 02:00:42,180
donate as a lawyer. Ah, you're
right. I would argue that when

2037
02:00:42,180 --> 02:00:45,810
we become lawyers, we sell our
souls and our prior selves cease

2038
02:00:45,810 --> 02:00:50,010
to exist. He needs to atone and
live up to his Esquire status by

2039
02:00:50,010 --> 02:00:52,620
sharing some of the fruits of
his billable hours with the

2040
02:00:52,620 --> 02:00:57,540
show. I'm in I'm in agreement on
that lawyers you need to repent.

2041
02:00:58,470 --> 02:01:01,260
Quickly proclaiming the two
things here one no agenda show

2042
02:01:01,260 --> 02:01:04,110
is not merely the best podcast
in the universe, it is the best

2043
02:01:04,110 --> 02:01:07,200
and most important media empire
in the universe. I know it

2044
02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:10,620
doesn't roll off the tongue as
nicely but I believe it to be

2045
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:13,740
true to for those producers who
have not visited no agenda

2046
02:01:13,740 --> 02:01:16,680
show.net Specifically the
producers page you are missing

2047
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,280
out there are so many amazing
and useful resources links and

2048
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,610
producer projects. This page
alone in addition to signing up

2049
02:01:23,610 --> 02:01:27,720
for the free newsletter is worth
some value from all of us. I

2050
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,940
encourage everyone who's
listening to donate any amount

2051
02:01:30,090 --> 02:01:32,970
so we could keep this media
empire going thank you for all

2052
02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:36,180
you do. No jingles no karma.
Nice note man. Thank you

2053
02:01:36,210 --> 02:01:36,900
appreciate that.

2054
02:01:37,740 --> 02:01:41,880
John C Dvorak: Baron Finch in
Portland 23456 Associate

2055
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:47,640
Executive Producer love the
newsletter JCD stellar shows of

2056
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:53,460
late gents. ATM jingles? Don't
drone me bro. Two Two they had

2057
02:01:53,460 --> 02:01:58,530
Boom shaka laka girl much needed
work karma Baron Finch

2058
02:01:58,860 --> 02:02:02,100
Adam Curry: I don't think
there's a don't draw me bro

2059
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:06,870
jingle I think that was a sign
that I held up Does that make

2060
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:12,030
sense? I don't know to

2061
02:02:12,210 --> 02:02:16,170
John C Dvorak: join again maybe
don't draw on me bro. I don't

2062
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,930
remember when that you mentioned
I do remember the sign

2063
02:02:20,130 --> 02:02:23,310
Adam Curry: on a second Where is
I can't find anything right now

2064
02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:27,390
for some reason to the head I
can't find a single thing okay.

2065
02:02:28,830 --> 02:02:35,520
I can do drone again. I'm doing
that drone again. Ah Shakalaka

2066
02:02:46,170 --> 02:02:52,470
John C Dvorak: you've got karma
circle and node for black last

2067
02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:56,460
night you T Yes. He's in
Philadelphia to to to Hill Road

2068
02:02:56,460 --> 02:03:04,710
ducks. He has a handwritten note
Hey, John, what happened to

2069
02:03:04,710 --> 02:03:09,750
those ladies after their tickets
in caught in the wringer? Do

2070
02:03:09,750 --> 02:03:15,570
they make it out? Okay. Oh my
goodness. My birthday is June

2071
02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:22,350
30. And I am in need of a cheer
up karma love you mean it black

2072
02:03:22,350 --> 02:03:32,340
knights sir E T. karma karma to
be easy it could be easy not at

2073
02:03:32,340 --> 02:03:32,400
all.

2074
02:03:32,940 --> 02:03:36,090
Adam Curry: It's probably hard
to say probably. Let's must be

2075
02:03:36,090 --> 02:03:39,840
easy. I think I remembered Yeah,
I think it is all right. Kelly P

2076
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:48,510
rego rego Macao Miko Miko Miko
Hawaii road ducks 222 switch a

2077
02:03:48,510 --> 02:03:51,480
room aka wat Oh Makka Wha Oh,
well, it doesn't matter because

2078
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:57,240
it's a switcheroo from Kelly
rego to pluma aka Heather

2079
02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:01,050
Godwin, so I guess we'll put
that in, aka Heather Godwin. He

2080
02:04:01,050 --> 02:04:05,910
got that done. In the morning,
John Adams rove ducks is a

2081
02:04:05,910 --> 02:04:08,370
switcheroo in honor of my dear
friend pluma. Instead of hitting

2082
02:04:08,370 --> 02:04:11,040
her in the mouth, I decided to
jumpstart her path to day mode.

2083
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:14,340
No nice gift. I am deeply
grateful. She got me to listen

2084
02:04:14,340 --> 02:04:16,260
to the best podcast in the
universe. I've been listening

2085
02:04:16,260 --> 02:04:19,710
since 2021 and appreciate all
the value you've added to my

2086
02:04:19,710 --> 02:04:23,490
life. It's Plumose birthday on
Wednesday, June 28. If you could

2087
02:04:23,490 --> 02:04:26,400
please add it to the birthday
list of course. Could I get to

2088
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,970
jingles Could I get some mac and
cheese? Yeah we got some mac and

2089
02:04:29,970 --> 02:04:32,580
cheese and I got ants got a
little bit of that for you for

2090
02:04:32,580 --> 02:04:37,110
sure. Love was lit. Thank you
for all you do. That is from

2091
02:04:37,110 --> 02:04:37,560
Kelly.

2092
02:04:38,550 --> 02:04:41,640
John C Dvorak: You slaves get
get used to mac and cheese.

2093
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:47,190
Macaroni and cheese melted
together mac and cheese mac and

2094
02:04:47,190 --> 02:04:48,510
cheese mac and cheese

2095
02:04:59,820 --> 02:05:12,960
out GOT ANTS you've got karma
named Beth. On June 21. She

2096
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:18,480
writes Heil boy. Heil, an
amazing crew of familiar and new

2097
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:23,820
faces assembled for the two hot
Tucson Solstice Soiree and had a

2098
02:05:23,820 --> 02:05:28,350
great time we even hit our
server in the mouth. Over the

2099
02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:33,750
past three weeks we have had oak
fire burn. Nearly sir. Oh, we

2100
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:39,450
had an oak fire interest of Boca
Oak 3300 acres in event

2101
02:05:39,450 --> 02:05:44,160
quantifier in our beloved. Santa
Catalina Mountains burned 133

2102
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:47,670
acres. We humbly request one
share of the rain stick shake

2103
02:05:47,670 --> 02:05:53,790
our starter, the kick ours to
kickstart our slacker monsoon

2104
02:05:53,790 --> 02:05:55,740
season season please.

2105
02:05:55,770 --> 02:05:59,190
Adam Curry: You said share but
I'm sure she said share. Do you

2106
02:05:59,190 --> 02:06:00,810
have your Do you have your
equipment?

2107
02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:07,980
John C Dvorak: I said shares it
of what instead of shake. Oh, I

2108
02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:12,300
said one shake? Sorry. Yeah, I
do have it right here. So is

2109
02:06:12,300 --> 02:06:15,000
that what that does it I have to
meet the flipper once?

2110
02:06:15,509 --> 02:06:18,239
Adam Curry: Well, one shake
means let's Okay, let's just do

2111
02:06:18,239 --> 02:06:22,589
two to one on one. Now over and
then back. It's the excess half

2112
02:06:22,619 --> 02:06:30,239
one one and then back. That's
okay. 123 Here we go. You're

2113
02:06:30,239 --> 02:06:33,209
shaking too much. You're shaking
too much. You're shaking too

2114
02:06:33,209 --> 02:06:33,869
much.

2115
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:35,790
John C Dvorak: I'm shaking. What
do you weigh as bites away? You

2116
02:06:35,790 --> 02:06:38,220
shake it? I get the right get
the instruction. Well,

2117
02:06:38,250 --> 02:06:41,610
Adam Curry: I wish you many
monsoons in northern Silicon

2118
02:06:41,610 --> 02:06:42,360
Valley. She

2119
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,870
John C Dvorak: says thank you on
she says named Beth on behalf of

2120
02:06:45,870 --> 02:06:48,300
the Southern Arizona slave flood

2121
02:06:48,300 --> 02:06:52,500
Adam Curry: somewhere. It's
obvious. Yeah. Because you know,

2122
02:06:52,500 --> 02:06:54,360
you're not acting very
professional that way

2123
02:06:54,450 --> 02:06:56,910
John C Dvorak: I play I'm doing
it exactly the way you're

2124
02:06:56,910 --> 02:06:58,620
supposed to do it. I know what
you're up to.

2125
02:07:01,170 --> 02:07:04,620
Adam Curry: I was taught by the
best but Okay. Sure. Eric.

2126
02:07:04,950 --> 02:07:09,900
Forte. grayshott. I know ground
nose grounds. gratia gratia

2127
02:07:10,170 --> 02:07:13,950
aggression that's got shit fort
Gratiot Yeah, I remember.

2128
02:07:14,670 --> 02:07:20,250
Michigan 207 15 Interesting. So
Eric of yield forge jobs. Karma

2129
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:23,520
may be making some changes in my
life milk early celebration of

2130
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:27,180
the birthday of my smokin hot
wife 29 years and they never had

2131
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:31,530
a fight. And Boom shakalaka we
run a firework stand to help pay

2132
02:07:31,530 --> 02:07:34,380
for our kids college. This is
the name of our best selling

2133
02:07:34,380 --> 02:07:39,480
mortar kit. The Boom shakalaka
they say one mother I'd like to

2134
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:39,630
have

2135
02:07:42,900 --> 02:07:50,370
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs. Armand

2136
02:07:51,510 --> 02:07:54,840
John C Dvorak: got the welder in
Brooklyn, New York. I just want

2137
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:59,310
to want you to know that CNC
routers without a vacuum table

2138
02:07:59,310 --> 02:08:03,030
suck and Johnson the coffee
roaster is probably still a

2139
02:08:03,030 --> 02:08:07,860
douchebag Can I get some more
jobs karma that worked out

2140
02:08:07,860 --> 02:08:11,490
pretty good last time. keep on
keepin on you guys have kept me

2141
02:08:11,490 --> 02:08:13,500
sane for the last three years
Scott?

2142
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:18,540
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.

2143
02:08:22,050 --> 02:08:26,580
Adam Curry: We got Raymond Bell
from Langley BC and Canada Navia

2144
02:08:26,580 --> 02:08:29,940
$200 Keep up the good work
gents. Shout out to Billy and

2145
02:08:29,940 --> 02:08:34,050
spud from war mode. Dun dun

2146
02:08:34,110 --> 02:08:36,420
John C Dvorak: and here I am
again with Linda Lou patcon

2147
02:08:36,450 --> 02:08:41,490
Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs karma
for all of you job hunters out

2148
02:08:41,490 --> 02:08:44,940
there in for a competitive edge.
that competitive edge go to

2149
02:08:44,940 --> 02:08:50,430
image makers.com For all your
executive resume and job search

2150
02:08:50,430 --> 02:08:51,270
needs.

2151
02:08:51,540 --> 02:08:54,840
Adam Curry: You screwed it up.
You screwed up. I did. Yes.

2152
02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:55,620
Image makers

2153
02:08:55,650 --> 02:09:01,680
John C Dvorak: inc.com. Go to
Image makers inc.com with a K

2154
02:09:02,220 --> 02:09:07,620
with a K Inc. or just find Linda
lapad kin under the show's

2155
02:09:07,620 --> 02:09:11,460
executive producer list and run
a search jobs,

2156
02:09:11,610 --> 02:09:15,840
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Jobs.

2157
02:09:17,460 --> 02:09:20,670
John C Dvorak: Roll like our
buddy in North Korea everybody

2158
02:09:20,670 --> 02:09:25,380
who's always donating the
gloves. Donation. McLaughlin

2159
02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:26,520
McLaughlin, yeah.

2160
02:09:26,820 --> 02:09:30,120
Adam Curry: Finally, Kevin final
Associate Executive producer sir

2161
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:34,290
Devin from Elko, Nevada, Nevada
Nevada $200. In the morning, you

2162
02:09:34,290 --> 02:09:38,100
too. I'm offering a belated
birthday donation for myself. I

2163
02:09:38,100 --> 02:09:40,920
turned 23 on June 4. We wanted
to wait to have this letter read

2164
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:45,030
while I drive across the breadth
of Nevada along Highway 50 The

2165
02:09:45,030 --> 02:09:49,350
loneliest Road in America,
concluding with a visit to Great

2166
02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:52,800
Basin National Park. I've left
an optional note for you to

2167
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:55,050
below regarding mineral
exploration in Nevada that

2168
02:09:55,050 --> 02:09:58,020
hopefully you find interesting.
The I read that

2169
02:09:58,050 --> 02:09:59,910
John C Dvorak: if you did you
read it. It's very interesting.

2170
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,380
Adam Curry: If I could get a
biscuit on my birthday of course

2171
02:10:04,410 --> 02:10:08,520
they always give me a biscuit on
my birthday. And my favorite ISO

2172
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:12,720
is Alex Jones. Twilight Zone. We
have that we have the Twilight

2173
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:19,290
Zone. Twilight. Yes, I do have.
I do have that for you. And I'd

2174
02:10:19,290 --> 02:10:21,810
like some karma and I sure
appreciate all of that. Thanks

2175
02:10:21,810 --> 02:10:25,350
for what you do you to do it
certain dirty dirt. Oh no.

2176
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:28,800
That's the next one. That's sir
Devon. Yes, thank you. I'm

2177
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:32,430
living in a twilight zone you go
and a little bit of karma for

2178
02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:35,670
you. Thank you so much. You've
got karma.

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02:10:37,980 --> 02:10:40,980
John C Dvorak: Lot of the way I
think highway 40 is lonelier

2180
02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:43,500
than 5050 goes to all these nice
little towns.

2181
02:10:44,190 --> 02:10:47,190
Adam Curry: Well, when's the
last time you did it?

2182
02:10:49,020 --> 02:10:50,790
John C Dvorak: When I was a
little kid now there you go.

2183
02:10:51,630 --> 02:10:54,120
Adam Curry: Now depends on what
you were like at the time. I

2184
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,990
wanted to thank before we move
on, you know, Field Day was this

2185
02:10:57,990 --> 02:11:01,560
past weekend, that's when all
the hams go out and make sure

2186
02:11:01,560 --> 02:11:06,780
that they can make some contacts
work some other stations on

2187
02:11:06,780 --> 02:11:11,640
battery power. You know, it's
really for em comms emergency so

2188
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:16,080
that we all keep in practice,
and my phone rang. And I love

2189
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:21,510
this. My phone rang from an
Austin number of 512 number. And

2190
02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:24,870
I'm like, Wow, this was this and
I picked it up and said yes,

2191
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:28,950
hello. I have a message from the
70 to 90 traffic net for Adam

2192
02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:33,060
curry kilo five alpha, Charlie,
Charlie. This thing it actually

2193
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:37,200
works. So you can do this. You
can send a message through your

2194
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:41,190
ham radio and say I want you to
contact someone and they and

2195
02:11:41,190 --> 02:11:43,350
they went through the trouble of
finding a phone number for me.

2196
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:45,960
They found a phone number and
passed on the message from

2197
02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:50,310
Juliet kilo Tango to zero in the
morning on field day from

2198
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:54,330
Central New York. 7290s

2199
02:11:54,660 --> 02:11:58,380
John C Dvorak: you got for your
phone? Yeah. Yeah, the hams are

2200
02:11:58,380 --> 02:12:00,900
very resourceful. I like the
hams. I

2201
02:12:00,900 --> 02:12:04,440
Adam Curry: love the ham 70
threes to all you hams and thank

2202
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:06,270
you all very much to our
executive and Associate

2203
02:12:06,270 --> 02:12:09,150
Executive producers who
supported us once again with

2204
02:12:09,150 --> 02:12:13,530
those forever credits for this
episode 1568 We appreciate a lot

2205
02:12:13,530 --> 02:12:17,760
and anybody can do that. You
just have to go to our website.

2206
02:12:17,940 --> 02:12:22,650
Our formula is this we go out
get people in the mouth

2207
02:12:34,770 --> 02:12:35,760
Unknown: Here's their website

2208
02:12:35,790 --> 02:12:39,240
for.org/n A

2209
02:12:40,260 --> 02:12:43,290
John C Dvorak: There we go.
Nice. Try to get a shady become

2210
02:12:43,290 --> 02:12:43,980
a ham.

2211
02:12:45,900 --> 02:12:48,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, but she'd be
good ham. She'd be a great ham.

2212
02:12:49,380 --> 02:12:52,950
She'd be ham malicious how
Malama dingdong, I gotta play

2213
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:56,250
something here which
corroborates a completely was

2214
02:12:56,250 --> 02:12:59,100
something we busted wide open
when I was doing the show from

2215
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:03,720
Jamaica. This is a show when
weeks before anyone else did it.

2216
02:13:04,410 --> 02:13:08,460
We pulled apart the fake
interview. A fake zoom call was

2217
02:13:08,460 --> 02:13:11,820
a real zoom call but it was a
fake Zelinsky with Fifi Lagarde

2218
02:13:11,820 --> 02:13:16,110
you remember Christine Lagarde
jacked up Oh, who presents a

2219
02:13:16,110 --> 02:13:19,230
Lensky I'm so happy you're
zooming it was two jokers from

2220
02:13:19,230 --> 02:13:25,440
Russia. Who we love those guys.
Those guys are the best. And she

2221
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,020
was talking about Yeah, in
October we're gonna have the

2222
02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:32,220
central bank digital currency.
We'll get it all set up. You

2223
02:13:32,220 --> 02:13:36,120
know, we we know exactly how
we're gonna do it. We've got the

2224
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:38,820
levels all set and we're gonna
go we're gonna rock it's gonna

2225
02:13:38,820 --> 02:13:43,590
happen. Well, wouldn't you know?
Yesterday, this announcement

2226
02:13:43,590 --> 02:13:46,500
came out in the EU Deutsche
Bella reports

2227
02:13:46,530 --> 02:13:48,600
Unknown: European Commission
published a proposal on

2228
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:52,080
Wednesday that would introduce
digital legal tender, tender for

2229
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:56,040
use was in the 20 member
Eurozone. The digital euro is

2230
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:59,730
meant to be used alongside the
existing euro as an additional

2231
02:13:59,730 --> 02:14:03,690
form of online payment and
cannot be converted into cash.

2232
02:14:03,870 --> 02:14:07,950
Unlike cryptocurrencies, it will
have the backing of the European

2233
02:14:07,950 --> 02:14:12,600
Central Bank Commissioner for
financial stability. Mairead

2234
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:16,290
McGinnis cited several reasons
for the move to a digital

2235
02:14:16,290 --> 02:14:19,620
tender. One is that the
declining use of cash but

2236
02:14:19,620 --> 02:14:22,350
there's also a concern that
other nations will dominate the

2237
02:14:22,350 --> 02:14:25,710
digital economy as the EU
doesn't take action. So far,

2238
02:14:25,710 --> 02:14:28,560
Nigeria, Jamaica and several
other Caribbean nations have

2239
02:14:28,590 --> 02:14:32,970
fully launched centrally backed
digital currencies. Another 53

2240
02:14:32,970 --> 02:14:37,170
countries are in the advanced
stages of a rollout including

2241
02:14:37,260 --> 02:14:44,520
China, India, Japan, and Brazil.
Let's get more of this from DW

2242
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:45,480
correspondence.

2243
02:14:46,470 --> 02:14:47,670
Adam Curry: Did you want to say
something John?

2244
02:14:48,180 --> 02:14:51,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what was it
like two or three years ago that

2245
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:57,570
India went all digital? It was a
big deal. Hmm, I don't theory me

2246
02:14:57,570 --> 02:14:58,530
gotta remember that.

2247
02:14:58,530 --> 02:15:00,570
Adam Curry: Remember, they took
away a whole bunch Your money

2248
02:15:00,570 --> 02:15:05,190
they made new money I remember
they took away banknotes I don't

2249
02:15:05,190 --> 02:15:07,740
think they went all digital they
can't call digital but the

2250
02:15:07,740 --> 02:15:09,090
country is filled with portal I

2251
02:15:09,090 --> 02:15:11,010
John C Dvorak: realize it is
impossible but I thought that

2252
02:15:11,010 --> 02:15:15,630
they made an effort to know
ready like years ago

2253
02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:18,270
Adam Curry: who cares This is
the EU I'm going there on

2254
02:15:18,270 --> 02:15:20,940
vacation this is gonna be fun

2255
02:15:20,969 --> 02:15:24,809
Unknown: this from DW
correspondents band he got and

2256
02:15:24,809 --> 02:15:30,839
Brussels band Good to see you
tell us more mod why EU

2257
02:15:30,839 --> 02:15:35,189
regulators feel this digital
euro is actually necessary

2258
02:15:35,219 --> 02:15:36,479
Adam Curry: this is gonna happen

2259
02:15:37,500 --> 02:15:41,250
Unknown: the EU Commission as it
wants to be part of the game

2260
02:15:42,450 --> 02:15:43,920
that it is necessary to have

2261
02:15:44,190 --> 02:15:47,340
Adam Curry: the game it's the
game part of the game, the game

2262
02:15:47,340 --> 02:15:51,630
map game the game the digital
game the game to scam people to

2263
02:15:51,630 --> 02:15:55,230
print up money digitally and
then get all your next stimulus

2264
02:15:55,230 --> 02:15:58,920
Chuck will come through your CBD
shoe but listen, this is what

2265
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:02,310
they want to do everywhere this
is the central bank mantra like

2266
02:16:02,700 --> 02:16:05,760
this is happening this is
happening in Europe mission

2267
02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:10,170
Unknown: as infants to be part
of the game it fields that it is

2268
02:16:10,170 --> 02:16:14,100
necessary to have also a digital
branch of the Euro which is the

2269
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:19,260
second biggest currency in the
world and they want to fulfill

2270
02:16:19,260 --> 02:16:22,350
the wishes of consumers there
was a survey and consumer say

2271
02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:26,040
yes we want that we want it and
it also grants some kind of

2272
02:16:26,070 --> 02:16:30,690
independence from payment
systems like MasterCard or Visa

2273
02:16:30,690 --> 02:16:34,710
which are all seated in the
United States All right,

2274
02:16:34,710 --> 02:16:37,410
you're paying with Euro I'm
paying with euros what are the

2275
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:41,730
practical benefits for consumers
like you and me and other people

2276
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:44,070
within the Euro zone of this
digital Europe

2277
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:50,190
paying with the Euro the digital
Euro shall be possible without

2278
02:16:50,190 --> 02:16:54,390
paying any fees it would work
like cash in your pocket so you

2279
02:16:54,390 --> 02:16:59,610
don't need the middlemen the
payment systems anymore it would

2280
02:16:59,610 --> 02:17:03,420
be safe because the value is
guaranteed by the European

2281
02:17:03,420 --> 02:17:09,690
Central Bank directly and
payments from one smart wallet

2282
02:17:09,690 --> 02:17:13,860
to another smart smart wallet
smart wallet out any online

2283
02:17:13,860 --> 02:17:17,400
connection so you don't need all
the technical stuff anymore.

2284
02:17:19,590 --> 02:17:23,130
Great say this digital Euro can
be more easily tracked can be

2285
02:17:23,130 --> 02:17:27,630
used for surveillance. What do
advocates of this digital Euro

2286
02:17:27,630 --> 02:17:28,530
say about that?

2287
02:17:30,660 --> 02:17:34,800
Well they say the opposite is
true because the digital Euro

2288
02:17:34,830 --> 02:17:40,020
works like cash you don't have
so much data involved as if you

2289
02:17:40,020 --> 02:17:43,650
pay with MasterCard or Visa
because there's no name involves

2290
02:17:43,650 --> 02:17:48,330
there is no account involved for
you're not leaving much traces

2291
02:17:48,330 --> 02:17:52,530
and that's why the amount of
digital digital years you can

2292
02:17:52,530 --> 02:17:56,340
have in your smart wallet is
limited actually to 3000 years

2293
02:17:56,550 --> 02:18:02,100
to avoid something some abuse
and also money laundering it's

2294
02:18:02,100 --> 02:18:03,000
exactly

2295
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:06,510
Adam Curry: what Lagarde said
limit to 3000 euros everything

2296
02:18:06,510 --> 02:18:10,980
she said about the tracking I
liked the it's the digital euro

2297
02:18:10,980 --> 02:18:14,100
but you don't need any technical
stuff I liked that part a lot

2298
02:18:14,130 --> 02:18:14,610
yeah, that's

2299
02:18:14,610 --> 02:18:17,370
John C Dvorak: gonna work what's
gonna work is that there's going

2300
02:18:17,370 --> 02:18:21,030
to be so much counterfeit money
because now you don't really

2301
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:23,190
have to print the money the
counterfeit money goes on the

2302
02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:24,330
card directly

2303
02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:27,150
Adam Curry: that's the point the
central bank Ah, you're

2304
02:18:27,150 --> 02:18:29,100
John C Dvorak: right you should
go to Europe get you know fine.

2305
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:33,300
It's one of our guys we get
plenty of them. That is in the

2306
02:18:33,300 --> 02:18:37,320
middle there some gray market
market here and you know Spence

2307
02:18:37,380 --> 02:18:38,970
spent some money in France.

2308
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:41,910
Adam Curry: Now you're missing
my point the the fraudulent

2309
02:18:41,910 --> 02:18:44,730
money will be printed by the
central bank. This is what this

2310
02:18:44,730 --> 02:18:45,480
is the only way

2311
02:18:45,930 --> 02:18:47,880
John C Dvorak: to do it. Anyone
can do it. I think you know, you

2312
02:18:47,880 --> 02:18:51,330
can also get your own fraudulent
money. No, this is not going to

2313
02:18:51,330 --> 02:18:51,840
work.

2314
02:18:52,260 --> 02:18:54,570
Adam Curry: If this is going to
work exactly the way they

2315
02:18:54,570 --> 02:18:57,420
intended. What I love the most
about this topic is your

2316
02:18:57,420 --> 02:19:01,080
constant saying is not going to
work. They are going to do this.

2317
02:19:01,110 --> 02:19:05,100
It's going to be beautiful.
They're going to they're going

2318
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:09,390
to create so much phony baloney
money on this this central bank

2319
02:19:09,570 --> 02:19:14,190
backed currency. It's going to
be great. It's gonna be so fun

2320
02:19:14,190 --> 02:19:14,640
to watch.

2321
02:19:14,669 --> 02:19:16,469
John C Dvorak: If you like
economic collapse. Yeah, you're

2322
02:19:16,469 --> 02:19:19,589
probably right. What do you
think that's great. What do

2323
02:19:19,590 --> 02:19:22,770
Adam Curry: you think they're
trying to do? This is the whole

2324
02:19:22,770 --> 02:19:26,700
point. They want economic
collapse. They want total

2325
02:19:26,700 --> 02:19:31,530
control of their citizens. Oh,
man, where you been during COVID

2326
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:36,510
This is what they want. They
want obedient, obedient

2327
02:19:36,510 --> 02:19:40,620
citizens. Take your money on
this card and Shut Up Show me

2328
02:19:40,620 --> 02:19:47,100
your QR code to get into the bar
I promise you. Now, I hope it

2329
02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:51,630
doesn't happen here. But man
they want it. They want

2330
02:19:51,630 --> 02:19:55,260
John C Dvorak: to they can want
anything they want. Good luck.

2331
02:19:56,730 --> 02:19:58,980
Adam Curry: Good luck. Well,
we'll see you in October, won't

2332
02:19:58,980 --> 02:20:01,290
we? We'll see and I'm not

2333
02:20:01,290 --> 02:20:03,210
John C Dvorak: saying they won't
roll something out doesn't mean

2334
02:20:03,210 --> 02:20:04,140
it's gonna go anywhere.

2335
02:20:05,310 --> 02:20:08,610
Adam Curry: Okay? Go back to
Putin. All right.

2336
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:12,240
John C Dvorak: The reason I want
to go back to Putin because CBS

2337
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:17,550
ran a hit piece. And CBS Of
course, we know is a front for

2338
02:20:17,550 --> 02:20:17,940
the

2339
02:20:18,179 --> 02:20:21,419
Adam Curry: well let's before
you get into your clips, I would

2340
02:20:21,419 --> 02:20:26,429
say the entire point of to the
operation that took place just

2341
02:20:26,429 --> 02:20:31,259
to review from the last episode.
One is to set up the the

2342
02:20:31,259 --> 02:20:34,469
terrorist attack on the nuclear
plant. So we can invoke Article

2343
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:38,879
Five of NATO. That's what
Blumenthal and Graham literally

2344
02:20:38,879 --> 02:20:44,819
announced, to, to do what the
CIA has always been good at is

2345
02:20:44,819 --> 02:20:48,689
to make a leader look weak
internally, and then try and

2346
02:20:48,689 --> 02:20:51,419
start a coup get everybody all
jacked up. They usually do it

2347
02:20:51,419 --> 02:20:55,289
with NGOs, Putin, kick them out.
So now we have the CIA

2348
02:20:55,289 --> 02:21:00,029
broadcasting systems who I'm
sure are going to compound the

2349
02:21:00,029 --> 02:21:02,129
messaging about Putin being
weak.

2350
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:04,860
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I figured
that this was the reason I

2351
02:21:04,860 --> 02:21:06,630
wanted that fed. There's a
reason I wanted these clips

2352
02:21:06,630 --> 02:21:10,950
because they have to be this is
a messaging operation. Yeah. And

2353
02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:14,970
information. This is the show
from yesterday, and there was

2354
02:21:14,970 --> 02:21:18,900
absolutely nothing on the show
except this

2355
02:21:19,019 --> 02:21:21,869
Unknown: war in Ukraine and new
fallout from that failed armed

2356
02:21:21,869 --> 02:21:25,229
rebellion led by the leader of
Russia's private army. There are

2357
02:21:25,229 --> 02:21:28,049
questions tonight about whether
the oligarch who leads the

2358
02:21:28,049 --> 02:21:32,399
Wagner mercenary group had
support from the for his revolt

2359
02:21:32,399 --> 02:21:36,119
from inside the Russian
military. Z and Li reports from

2360
02:21:36,119 --> 02:21:37,529
Keith. The images

2361
02:21:37,530 --> 02:21:41,340
shocked the world Wagner troops
advancing toward Moscow before

2362
02:21:41,340 --> 02:21:45,030
turning around, but questions
remain surrounding the mercenary

2363
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:49,530
boss Yevgeni precautions failed
mutiny. CBS News has learned the

2364
02:21:49,530 --> 02:21:52,710
US has intelligence that a
senior Russian general had

2365
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:56,010
advanced knowledge of the
mutiny. The Kremlin says these

2366
02:21:56,010 --> 02:22:00,780
allegations are speculation and
gossip. And keep today Ukraine's

2367
02:22:00,780 --> 02:22:04,260
national security chief Alexei
Journalof claimed precaution

2368
02:22:04,260 --> 02:22:08,100
wasn't leaked with not one but
14 senior Russian military

2369
02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:12,660
officers. Goshen is not an
independent person he tells me

2370
02:22:12,660 --> 02:22:16,260
Lucky is owned by high ranking
people in President Putin's

2371
02:22:16,260 --> 02:22:20,340
inner circle. So promotion does
have support in the of the

2372
02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:24,180
Russian military, who in the
last night, they are his owners.

2373
02:22:24,180 --> 02:22:27,690
He says this is a group of
people who have a goal to change

2374
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:31,200
the leadership of Russia how
many analysts say President

2375
02:22:31,200 --> 02:22:33,300
Putin has been weakened by this
revolt?

2376
02:22:33,390 --> 02:22:36,810
Adam Curry: Wow, this is good. I
didn't even see this one coming.

2377
02:22:37,470 --> 02:22:40,710
So we know that obviously, the
Wagner group which has been the

2378
02:22:40,740 --> 02:22:44,520
sole focus of attention of
anything in the in the field on

2379
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:49,020
Russia, not Russian troops, not
Russian war, war machines. No,

2380
02:22:49,170 --> 02:22:52,200
it's all been Wagner group,
private military company wagon

2381
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:56,940
group. And they're obviously on
the CIA play a role. But now

2382
02:22:56,940 --> 02:23:00,990
that they add a little twist to
it by saying, Oh, no, no, no,

2383
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:04,920
it's people inside Russia who
have this guy in his pocket.

2384
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:09,120
He's not Putin chef anymore.
This is the it's the people

2385
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:11,520
around Putin they want to bring
him down

2386
02:23:12,690 --> 02:23:15,150
John C Dvorak: Can you believe
this? I can believe they

2387
02:23:15,150 --> 02:23:17,220
Adam Curry: said I can't believe
we didn't predict this one.

2388
02:23:17,250 --> 02:23:18,450
That's what I can't believe

2389
02:23:19,980 --> 02:23:21,960
John C Dvorak: actually is
predictable. Not looking back.

2390
02:23:21,960 --> 02:23:26,550
Yes. But to come up with this
cock and bull story great. And

2391
02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:30,600
then that haven't come out of
the secure the head of the CIA

2392
02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:33,990
of Ukraine. Whoever that guy is.
Never heard of him. Great. And I

2393
02:23:33,990 --> 02:23:37,560
love the comes up with his
bullshit. It's like, oh my god.

2394
02:23:37,740 --> 02:23:41,190
This is it is great. I agree.
It's great. And it's amazing

2395
02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:43,350
that you're right, we should
have come up with the sociales

2396
02:23:43,350 --> 02:23:46,920
but here we go with part two of
the same basic Clip mode Tech

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Show.

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Unknown: Even if we execute the
generals who had some sort on

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02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:52,740
part in the mutiny exists you're
not affect the outcome. He tells

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02:23:52,740 --> 02:23:57,660
me the wheels are in motion
pools demise. The crisis at the

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02:23:57,660 --> 02:24:01,200
top and Russia has so far not
trickled down to the battlefield

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02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:04,830
or yesterday to Russian missiles
destroyed a pizza restaurant

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02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:08,970
during the evening rush. At
least 11 people were killed in

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02:24:08,970 --> 02:24:12,900
the attack, including 14 year
old twins, while dozens more

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02:24:12,930 --> 02:24:16,290
were injured. So night to Nora,
President Solinsky announced the

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02:24:16,290 --> 02:24:20,340
detention of a person he says
coordinated the attack, adding

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02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:23,820
anybody who helps the Russians
destroy life deserves the

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02:24:23,820 --> 02:24:25,080
maximum punishment.

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02:24:25,140 --> 02:24:28,770
Adam Curry: I really liked the
twins edition, including 14 year

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02:24:28,770 --> 02:24:29,580
old twins.

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02:24:29,850 --> 02:24:31,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they show
him they have a little picture.

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02:24:31,950 --> 02:24:34,830
The two of them. They're cute.
And you gotta make sure

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02:24:36,150 --> 02:24:39,240
Adam Curry: incubators, throw
the incubators. Throw the babies

2414
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:43,200
on the floor. Yeah, exactly.
Well, so

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02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:45,600
John C Dvorak: you built it. You
built the eye and we see the two

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02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:50,550
girls and the propaganda pieces.
Very good. Well, the

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02:24:50,550 --> 02:24:53,280
Adam Curry: message. The message
is out everywhere I have I have

2418
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:56,820
some other examples of the exact
same message maybe not with the

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02:24:57,540 --> 02:25:02,970
Putin's guys on the inside.
We're funding yet. But here's

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02:25:03,030 --> 02:25:04,080
NBC

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02:25:04,110 --> 02:25:06,690
Unknown: now overseas to Russia
where today President Putin

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02:25:06,690 --> 02:25:09,780
speaking on following that
failed mutiny. Keir Simmons is

2423
02:25:09,780 --> 02:25:11,310
with me from Moscow failed

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02:25:11,310 --> 02:25:14,700
Adam Curry: mutiny. I like
mutiny. Now this is the honest

2425
02:25:14,730 --> 02:25:16,380
Iran a shadow ship here.

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02:25:16,380 --> 02:25:19,500
Unknown: President Putin is now
saying Russia averted a civil

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02:25:19,500 --> 02:25:21,330
war. Civil War.

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02:25:21,390 --> 02:25:24,000
That's right next door and
tonight the Kremlin's message to

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02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:27,900
this country. President Putin is
in control. Russia's leader

2430
02:25:27,990 --> 02:25:31,890
praising security officials and
his National Guard for saving

2431
02:25:31,890 --> 02:25:35,220
the motherland from catastrophe.
Rebellion leader Vagner group

2432
02:25:35,220 --> 02:25:38,340
commander of getting precaution
is now in better rooms according

2433
02:25:38,340 --> 02:25:41,430
to reports there. But Goshen
forces took over a Russian

2434
02:25:41,430 --> 02:25:44,670
military headquarters and were
marching towards Moscow when the

2435
02:25:44,670 --> 02:25:48,450
deal was apparently cut Putin
today criticizing Bogosian

2436
02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:53,370
saying in a year he paid his
former ally $2 billion dollars.

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02:25:53,490 --> 02:25:57,510
Russia announcing it won't
prosecute the mutineers. Okay,

2438
02:25:57,510 --> 02:25:57,930
so

2439
02:25:58,050 --> 02:26:00,750
Adam Curry: really just sowing
confusion there MBCA

2440
02:26:00,900 --> 02:26:05,010
John C Dvorak: Nair and the
mutineer which is okay, and then

2441
02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:07,710
civil war here, we get all these
crazy things going on.

2442
02:26:07,890 --> 02:26:10,710
Adam Curry: Why do you think
they threw in mutiny? What is

2443
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:12,330
the point of that? It's it

2444
02:26:12,330 --> 02:26:13,980
John C Dvorak: is because the
public understands what it

2445
02:26:13,980 --> 02:26:17,760
means. Yeah. All right, because
you're you're part of the

2446
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:22,740
system. And you you mutiny
because immunity also because of

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02:26:22,740 --> 02:26:25,980
the movies like Mutiny on the
Bounty and all these, it

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02:26:25,980 --> 02:26:29,280
indicates you have a guy that's
running the ship that's out of

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02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:34,020
control. And he has got to go
Caine Mutiny, Mutiny on the

2450
02:26:34,020 --> 02:26:36,390
Bounty? These are where the
captain is nuts.

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02:26:36,420 --> 02:26:37,860
Adam Curry: I think you're
right. Good point. So let's

2452
02:26:37,860 --> 02:26:40,200
associative. Let's listen to
Good Morning America,

2453
02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:42,720
Unknown: President delinski It
sounded the alarm by Russia

2454
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:46,110
taking steps to potentially
sabotage a nuclear facility in

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02:26:46,110 --> 02:26:48,270
Ukraine. Yeah. Could you do
that?

2456
02:26:48,660 --> 02:26:50,190
Adam Curry: They could Russia do
that. But

2457
02:26:50,190 --> 02:26:53,040
Unknown: Michael, they have the
means they may not have the

2458
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:56,280
motive yet. So they certainly
have an engineering capability.

2459
02:26:56,280 --> 02:26:59,250
They've held this power plant
for a long time. What they may

2460
02:26:59,250 --> 02:27:02,550
be doing is wiring the plant to
create a nuclear incident.

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02:27:02,580 --> 02:27:05,100
Adam Curry: You're they're
wiring the plant? Oh, yes.

2462
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:08,460
They've Oh, they're wiring it.
Just like the World Trade

2463
02:27:08,460 --> 02:27:08,670
Center.

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02:27:08,730 --> 02:27:10,320
Unknown: And it would be
something that Putin would keep

2465
02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:13,560
in his pocket if there was some
sort of catastrophic Ukrainian

2466
02:27:13,770 --> 02:27:14,580
breakthrough in

2467
02:27:14,580 --> 02:27:16,470
Adam Curry: the front lines. Or
if there's a breakthrough on the

2468
02:27:16,470 --> 02:27:19,290
front lines, and I pushed the
button, perhaps he could blow up

2469
02:27:19,290 --> 02:27:19,680
this power

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02:27:19,680 --> 02:27:21,660
Unknown: plant. But
interestingly, if you look at

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02:27:21,660 --> 02:27:24,810
the prevailing winds, if the
Russians did that, most of the

2472
02:27:24,810 --> 02:27:28,200
year they blow either towards
the east or towards the south.

2473
02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:31,320
So that Fallout would
theoretically come right back on

2474
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:33,630
to Russian troops, and
potentially Crimea.

2475
02:27:33,660 --> 02:27:36,510
Adam Curry: Oh, this is an
interesting little bit here. We

2476
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:40,320
need to have the wind we need to
change the wind direction

2477
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:45,000
because if it doesn't waft over
Poland, fly in new if it doesn't

2478
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:49,170
waft over Poland, then we can
invoke Article Five it needs we

2479
02:27:49,170 --> 02:27:52,770
have to have the wind in the
right direction. Let's continue

2480
02:27:52,770 --> 02:27:55,110
with Steve Gagnon and Secretary

2481
02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:57,870
Unknown: of State Blinken said
on this week that that real

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02:27:57,870 --> 02:28:01,980
cracks are emerging in Russia's
leadership is Putin's power.

2483
02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:06,780
It certainly is for the first
time in 24 years, but remember

2484
02:28:06,780 --> 02:28:09,180
that sometimes cracks and
foundations and buildings

2485
02:28:11,370 --> 02:28:13,320
Adam Curry: for the first time
in Tibet 24 years.

2486
02:28:14,970 --> 02:28:17,970
Unknown: It certainly is for the
first time in 24 years. But

2487
02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:20,790
remember that sometimes crowns
and foundations of buildings,

2488
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:24,720
they can cause catastrophic,
immediate effect, or they can go

2489
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:27,720
on for years or maybe never. So
we need to see how this plays

2490
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:30,990
out. And I think that every hour
that we don't see Putin will be

2491
02:28:31,140 --> 02:28:33,930
adding to that intrigue, but I
think it's important, Michael

2492
02:28:33,930 --> 02:28:36,840
here to think about what this
was and what it wasn't. It was

2493
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:39,810
not a coup attempt. It was not
an insurrection, there was no

2494
02:28:39,810 --> 02:28:43,800
popular support. This was a
mercenary army muting, and

2495
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:45,210
proposed wall

2496
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:47,550
Adam Curry: mutiny. That's the
talking point, John, it's the

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02:28:47,550 --> 02:28:48,450
talking point.

2498
02:28:48,539 --> 02:28:51,539
John C Dvorak: It is and looks
for everybody. But CBS who's got

2499
02:28:51,539 --> 02:28:52,769
their own This is ABC,

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02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:55,290
Adam Curry: NBC, they've got the
mutiny. Mean, Goshen

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02:28:55,290 --> 02:28:59,010
Unknown: felt the walls closing
in around him, he hatched a plan

2502
02:28:59,010 --> 02:29:03,150
to save himself in his men. It
was brilliant. He really,

2503
02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:04,110
headquarters

2504
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:06,240
military, was brilliant.

2505
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:11,970
John C Dvorak: Bull on his
second history of this operation

2506
02:29:11,970 --> 02:29:15,840
is really their bunch of, I
don't know, they're mercenaries

2507
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:21,150
that go to Africa to steal gold.
That's their main goal. Why

2508
02:29:21,150 --> 02:29:25,170
don't they just pack up and go
back to Africa? Where they've

2509
02:29:25,170 --> 02:29:29,910
been doing business forever? No.
As opposed to this bullcrap.

2510
02:29:30,839 --> 02:29:33,839
Adam Curry: Well, maybe because
it's all bull crap closing in

2511
02:29:33,840 --> 02:29:37,170
Unknown: around him. He hatched
a plan to save himself and his

2512
02:29:37,170 --> 02:29:41,070
men. It was brilliant. He walked
into this headquarters as

2513
02:29:41,070 --> 02:29:43,680
military headquarters in the
south, essentially put his feet

2514
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,680
up on the desk says I control
this place. Send an armored

2515
02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:50,970
column up to the north depressor
Putin called Putin with the

2516
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:54,840
phones, recording the whole
thing controlling social media.

2517
02:29:56,970 --> 02:29:59,430
John C Dvorak: Are they just
making this up as they go along?

2518
02:29:59,460 --> 02:30:03,240
Totally. He put his feet up on
the desk and called Putin on the

2519
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:04,800
secure line to Riyadh office

2520
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:08,220
Adam Curry: and recorded it and
recorded it and recorded Let's

2521
02:30:08,250 --> 02:30:08,640
send an

2522
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,100
Unknown: armored column up to
the north depressor Putin

2523
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:15,810
threshold Putin with the phones,
recording the whole thing

2524
02:30:15,810 --> 02:30:18,780
controlling social media so
Putin can control the narrative.

2525
02:30:19,050 --> 02:30:22,890
And he said let's negotiate. And
Putin was unable to call his

2526
02:30:22,890 --> 02:30:26,460
bluff and he totally collapsed.
It was totally humiliating for

2527
02:30:26,460 --> 02:30:30,390
Putin and Prigogine pulled it
all off brilliantly.

2528
02:30:30,510 --> 02:30:32,730
Adam Curry: I didn't clip it
because it was Hold on

2529
02:30:32,730 --> 02:30:35,760
John C Dvorak: a second Wait,
how is he pulling this off

2530
02:30:35,760 --> 02:30:41,040
beautifully when he's exiled to
Belarus of all places because he

2531
02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:43,740
puts pressure pulling off
anything and you're lucky to be

2532
02:30:43,740 --> 02:30:46,650
alive he can be assassinated at
any point now

2533
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:51,180
Adam Curry: he put pressure on
Putin pressure what you're

2534
02:30:51,180 --> 02:30:54,930
asking me about this phony op
you're asking me to explain it

2535
02:30:54,930 --> 02:30:58,800
to you. This Yeah, this is a
media war. This is all bowl

2536
02:30:58,830 --> 02:31:03,180
bowl. mean, half the half the
media was saying, Oh, look,

2537
02:31:03,180 --> 02:31:05,760
everybody was happy to see
promotion. The other half was

2538
02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:09,480
saying they weren't they were
like kicking him out. This whole

2539
02:31:09,480 --> 02:31:11,940
thing is it's very

2540
02:31:11,940 --> 02:31:14,100
John C Dvorak: poorly
orchestrated. Whoever's behind

2541
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:14,310
it.

2542
02:31:14,430 --> 02:31:17,790
Adam Curry: France 20 US, France
24 hole

2543
02:31:17,790 --> 02:31:19,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I'm
saying but there's obviously a

2544
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:23,970
head of the operation is he did
fine with CBS. That's a great

2545
02:31:23,970 --> 02:31:28,560
report. No, but these other
things from ABC they got they.

2546
02:31:29,310 --> 02:31:31,920
Adam Curry: They're freewheeling
the freewheeling. They don't

2547
02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:36,150
have they had a meeting. What do
we call this mutiny? Okay, okay.

2548
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:37,890
Both good. Yes, to

2549
02:31:37,890 --> 02:31:39,450
John C Dvorak: get the one
talking and playing go from

2550
02:31:39,450 --> 02:31:43,680
there boys. You can make it up
as good as anyone is France 24.

2551
02:31:43,710 --> 02:31:46,710
Unknown: The revolts may have
been short lived, but it's

2552
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:50,100
chipped away at FL notice the
music Vladimir Putin's stone

2553
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:54,900
faced facade. The Wagner group's
failed uprising was slammed as

2554
02:31:54,900 --> 02:31:58,530
treason by the Kremlin. Birth it
was the biggest threat is

2555
02:31:58,530 --> 02:32:02,940
authority that Putin has faced
in his two decades in power. For

2556
02:32:02,940 --> 02:32:06,810
those watching from abroad, it
was a remarkable slip for Russia

2557
02:32:06,810 --> 02:32:07,500
strong man.

2558
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:13,230
16 months ago, Russian forces
were on the doorstep of keys in

2559
02:32:13,230 --> 02:32:16,110
Ukraine. This is Blinken
believing they would take the

2560
02:32:16,110 --> 02:32:19,110
capital in a matter of days and
erase the country from from the

2561
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:22,950
map as an independent country.
Now, what we've seen is

2562
02:32:23,700 --> 02:32:27,540
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, left
tail, left toe, left tail I

2563
02:32:27,540 --> 02:32:27,870
believe

2564
02:32:27,930 --> 02:32:30,120
Unknown: they would take the
capital in a matter of days and

2565
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,820
erase the country from from the
map as an independent country.

2566
02:32:33,180 --> 02:32:34,560
Now what we've seen

2567
02:32:37,650 --> 02:32:39,180
John C Dvorak: Yeah, left till
right in there,

2568
02:32:39,210 --> 02:32:40,920
Adam Curry: because he knows
what he's saying, Oh, they would

2569
02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:45,090
erase the country from the map.
It's simply not true. The reason

2570
02:32:45,090 --> 02:32:48,810
he pulled out is because they
had a peace deal. They had a

2571
02:32:48,810 --> 02:32:53,610
peace deal, which Boris Johnson
then went into Oh, no, no son.

2572
02:32:53,790 --> 02:32:57,810
No Minsk agreement for you. We
need war here. So he knows it's

2573
02:32:57,810 --> 02:33:00,090
not true. And he's laughing
about

2574
02:33:01,230 --> 02:33:03,270
Unknown: believing they would
take the capital in a matter of

2575
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:06,210
days and erase the country from
from the map as an independent

2576
02:33:06,210 --> 02:33:11,730
country. Now, what we've seen is
Russia having to defend Moscow,

2577
02:33:12,030 --> 02:33:14,910
his case catch against
mercenaries of his own making.

2578
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:18,270
Ukraine's allies have been
monitoring the situation

2579
02:33:18,270 --> 02:33:21,690
closely. French President
Emmanuel Macron said the Wagner

2580
02:33:21,690 --> 02:33:24,990
group march on Moscow shows the
divisions that exist within the

2581
02:33:24,990 --> 02:33:25,740
Russian camp.

2582
02:33:26,310 --> 02:33:28,980
Adam Curry: There's so much
alliteration march on Moscow

2583
02:33:28,980 --> 02:33:30,750
pressure on Putin, I love it

2584
02:33:30,900 --> 02:33:33,390
Unknown: on the fragility of
both its military and its

2585
02:33:33,390 --> 02:33:38,220
auxilary forces. Ukrainian
president Solinsky has discussed

2586
02:33:38,220 --> 02:33:41,370
the turmoil across the border
with Poland, Canada and US

2587
02:33:41,370 --> 02:33:45,090
President Joe Biden. But for
now, he's holding his cards

2588
02:33:45,090 --> 02:33:46,440
close to his chest. Now,

2589
02:33:47,550 --> 02:33:51,060
the longer Russian aggression
lasts, the more degradation it

2590
02:33:51,060 --> 02:33:55,350
causes in Russia itself. This
manifests itself as aggression,

2591
02:33:55,590 --> 02:33:58,470
which is gradually turning
inwards and coming home to

2592
02:33:58,470 --> 02:34:01,320
roost. So for both my
conversations with my fellow

2593
02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:04,410
leaders, we exchanged our
assessment of what is happening

2594
02:34:04,410 --> 02:34:08,220
in Russia, we see the situation
the same way and know how to

2595
02:34:08,220 --> 02:34:08,790
respond.

2596
02:34:09,870 --> 02:34:11,970
Adam Curry: You know, there's
something to be said for this

2597
02:34:11,970 --> 02:34:17,250
tactic. With the media being so
widespread the way it is today,

2598
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:20,550
if you just keep saying it,
Putin is weak Putin weak

2599
02:34:20,550 --> 02:34:24,570
pressure mute, Delia. I mean,
the people inside Russia will

2600
02:34:24,570 --> 02:34:25,410
start to,

2601
02:34:25,620 --> 02:34:28,170
John C Dvorak: I don't know,
just wave the word. People

2602
02:34:28,170 --> 02:34:30,180
inside Russia been cut off, but
they

2603
02:34:30,180 --> 02:34:34,200
Adam Curry: got to they got
YouTube and tick tock. They're

2604
02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:39,480
posting on YouTube. Yes, of
course, we need to YouTube is

2605
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:40,620
open for Russia

2606
02:34:40,980 --> 02:34:44,100
John C Dvorak: believe Well,
believe it would. It would have

2607
02:34:44,100 --> 02:34:49,800
been over for Putin. If the NGOs
were still around. I agree. And

2608
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:53,580
the media was a little looser.
They probably would have gotten

2609
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:57,270
him out by now. But he's he's
done a really amazing job of

2610
02:34:57,270 --> 02:35:01,170
staying in power. And I don't
know if They're going to this is

2611
02:35:01,170 --> 02:35:04,260
gonna work. I mean, I know that
they love to get rid of him. I'm

2612
02:35:04,260 --> 02:35:05,490
not sure what they want,

2613
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:09,090
Adam Curry: but this is what I'm
what I'm worried about is that

2614
02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:14,220
they, you know, they being US
trip, trip trip off some, some

2615
02:35:14,220 --> 02:35:17,460
charges at the nuclear power
plant which they do have to wait

2616
02:35:17,460 --> 02:35:20,460
for the winds of change. Make
sure the winds go on the right

2617
02:35:20,460 --> 02:35:22,230
way. Otherwise it doesn't count

2618
02:35:22,470 --> 02:35:24,240
John C Dvorak: why they can have
trouble with that because you

2619
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:26,610
can't read while they have
weather machines that can do

2620
02:35:26,700 --> 02:35:28,890
this. Maybe they do. But

2621
02:35:31,440 --> 02:35:36,330
Adam Curry: in the meantime,
know the co chairs of the EU

2622
02:35:36,510 --> 02:35:40,410
Ukraine recovery conference in
London 2023 have made a joint

2623
02:35:40,410 --> 02:35:45,690
statement, which I'd like to
read a little bit is what

2624
02:35:45,690 --> 02:35:48,000
they've agreed to so we
understand what's at stake here.

2625
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:51,660
Ukraine's partners have agreed
to provide a further 60 billion

2626
02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:54,210
to meet the recovery and
reconstruction needs of Ukraine.

2627
02:35:54,540 --> 02:35:57,480
The EU announced a new multi
year facility of 50 billion for

2628
02:35:57,480 --> 02:36:01,410
recovery, the US announced 1.3
billion in additional aid to

2629
02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:06,240
Ukraine, including 675 million
to modernize Ukraine's critical

2630
02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:10,530
infrastructure. I didn't know
about that. The UK announced a

2631
02:36:10,530 --> 02:36:14,100
further 3 billion and guarantees
to support additional world bank

2632
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:18,540
lending up to 2027 to one and 40
million support for immediate

2633
02:36:18,540 --> 02:36:22,860
needs. That's the landscape coke
habit. Switzerland announced the

2634
02:36:22,860 --> 02:36:26,850
further 1.5 Swiss francs to
support up to 2027. But here,

2635
02:36:27,090 --> 02:36:31,050
nearly 500 global businesses
from 42 countries worth more

2636
02:36:31,050 --> 02:36:35,970
than $5.2 trillion and 21
sectors have already signed the

2637
02:36:35,970 --> 02:36:40,110
Ukraine business compact,
pledging to support Ukraine's

2638
02:36:40,110 --> 02:36:45,030
recovery and reconstruction. And
to make sure that everything

2639
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:48,510
goes okay. The Government of
Ukraine and its partners are

2640
02:36:48,510 --> 02:36:51,870
responding to business demand to
extend commercial insurance

2641
02:36:51,870 --> 02:36:55,020
coverage in Ukraine. The
conference launched the London

2642
02:36:55,020 --> 02:37:00,060
conference war risk insurance
framework, which means you have

2643
02:37:00,060 --> 02:37:04,200
no risk for your money. The
taxpayers of all these other

2644
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:11,430
countries will pay in case your
money gets blown up. Funding Oh,

2645
02:37:11,430 --> 02:37:12,570
that's not on the news.

2646
02:37:13,890 --> 02:37:16,710
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's the
duck gotta be on the news.

2647
02:37:17,730 --> 02:37:23,400
Adam Curry: And you know, and I
love seeing Kyiv ne Kieve. Eve,

2648
02:37:24,060 --> 02:37:26,970
you know, what is your
impression that keep keeps under

2649
02:37:26,970 --> 02:37:30,990
constant attack? And like it was
being blown up?

2650
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:34,290
John C Dvorak: was a big city.
Yeah. And there's a missile that

2651
02:37:34,290 --> 02:37:39,000
hits it about once a week. Yeah.
And it the missile costs x

2652
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:42,480
amount of money, and it's
killing maybe five to 10 people

2653
02:37:42,480 --> 02:37:47,220
that live in his last time. And
so it's a very expensive process

2654
02:37:47,250 --> 02:37:51,570
to kill the people. And I don't
even know that this is a

2655
02:37:51,570 --> 02:37:54,240
missile. I mean, we you don't
know. I mean, this whole thing

2656
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:58,740
is such a scam. But I keep
seeing not under bombardment and

2657
02:37:58,740 --> 02:38:01,710
there's no swarms of drones
hitting key the hitting the

2658
02:38:01,710 --> 02:38:06,870
country, the areas around the
Donbass mostly. Yeah. Like you

2659
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:09,420
say, usually some missile goes
into Kyiv.

2660
02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:11,760
Adam Curry: They have no they
have like three electric

2661
02:38:11,880 --> 02:38:16,050
electric scooter companies, just
like New York or wherever. I get

2662
02:38:16,050 --> 02:38:18,360
these electric scooters
everywhere riding around.

2663
02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:19,590
Everyone's having a good time.

2664
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:23,160
John C Dvorak: It says, yeah,
when they show the reports that

2665
02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:26,700
guys are in Kyiv. There seemed
to be what now let's having a

2666
02:38:26,700 --> 02:38:29,370
good time. Now it doesn't look
like it's listening to this. I

2667
02:38:29,370 --> 02:38:32,340
look like Sudan or Somalia.
That's for sure.

2668
02:38:32,580 --> 02:38:35,640
Adam Curry: The United States on
Tuesday impose sanctions aimed

2669
02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:38,850
at disrupting gold mining
activities that fund the Wagner

2670
02:38:38,850 --> 02:38:42,660
group in Africa, vowing to hold
the mercenaries accountable for

2671
02:38:42,660 --> 02:38:49,050
abuses days after they staged a
mutiny in Russia. The measures

2672
02:38:49,050 --> 02:38:51,690
against the Wagner group had
been previously panned but were

2673
02:38:51,690 --> 02:38:55,350
briefly put on hold as US
officials sought to avoid

2674
02:38:56,970 --> 02:39:00,450
appearing to favor aside in the
power struggle. So now they're

2675
02:39:00,450 --> 02:39:06,690
going after Africa's gold. They
call it sanctions. But now you

2676
02:39:06,690 --> 02:39:09,120
know where that gold is gonna
wind up? Yeah,

2677
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:11,430
John C Dvorak: not an hour not
not where it belongs.

2678
02:39:11,460 --> 02:39:18,870
Adam Curry: Not in Africa. It's
so the world is so crazy. It's

2679
02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:22,680
just crazy. You know, I should
have played this clip earlier. I

2680
02:39:22,680 --> 02:39:23,490
finally found it.

2681
02:39:23,580 --> 02:39:25,770
Unknown: We're back with the
investigation into the gruesome

2682
02:39:25,770 --> 02:39:29,610
death of an airport ground crew
worker in Texas. The NTSB says a

2683
02:39:29,610 --> 02:39:32,970
baggage handler in San Antonio's
airport died after being

2684
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:36,600
ingested into the engine of a
Delta plane Friday the jet was

2685
02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:40,470
taxiing after arriving from LA a
similar incident happened in

2686
02:39:40,470 --> 02:39:43,620
late December when a ramp agent
at the airport in Montgomery,

2687
02:39:43,620 --> 02:39:46,740
Alabama died after being pulled
into a plane's engine, the

2688
02:39:46,740 --> 02:39:49,620
American Airlines subsidiary
involved with recently find

2689
02:39:49,620 --> 02:39:53,010
after investigators found a lack
of communication and effective

2690
02:39:53,010 --> 02:39:53,520
training.

2691
02:39:54,480 --> 02:39:57,690
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, I
love this new thing. You're

2692
02:39:57,720 --> 02:40:01,500
John C Dvorak: thinking is that
because of these two Pre events

2693
02:40:01,950 --> 02:40:04,080
that could be Hunter Biden's
fate.

2694
02:40:04,350 --> 02:40:06,990
Adam Curry: It would be perfect
he's always riding private jets

2695
02:40:07,020 --> 02:40:13,890
his buddies private jet it's
just just a feeling I have.

2696
02:40:14,610 --> 02:40:20,580
Yeah. I need to well first of
all, we got to another great

2697
02:40:20,580 --> 02:40:27,540
note on the on the phone phony
baloney chicken, which you said

2698
02:40:28,740 --> 02:40:31,530
John C Dvorak: the latest note
you have it? I do. You said you

2699
02:40:31,530 --> 02:40:36,000
were gonna I was gonna fact that
was saying dibs on reading it.

2700
02:40:36,810 --> 02:40:39,660
But you can read it because you
read the first because I have it

2701
02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:41,130
right here. Great note.

2702
02:40:41,820 --> 02:40:45,240
Adam Curry: So again, this is
how the how the chicken is made

2703
02:40:45,240 --> 02:40:47,730
in the needs a culture needs a

2704
02:40:48,090 --> 02:40:50,700
John C Dvorak: niche. You don't
make chicken out of thin air

2705
02:40:50,700 --> 02:40:53,910
that was with this phony
chicken. It has to be fed a

2706
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:59,070
nutrient. And so the nutrient it
turns out is well here's the

2707
02:40:59,070 --> 02:41:01,230
note that explains it in great
detail.

2708
02:41:01,260 --> 02:41:05,970
Adam Curry: FBS fetal bovine
serum or fetal calf serum.

2709
02:41:06,210 --> 02:41:10,770
Unbeknownst to most is made as
follows. In an abattoir slash

2710
02:41:10,770 --> 02:41:14,040
slaughterhouse, when pregnant
cows are slaughtered, they cut

2711
02:41:14,040 --> 02:41:18,570
out the dead fetus, or calf
drain all of its blood, spin it

2712
02:41:18,570 --> 02:41:21,810
down a big centrifuge, and
you're left with the solids and

2713
02:41:21,810 --> 02:41:26,160
the serum. We filter a bottle
the serum and as this is used

2714
02:41:26,220 --> 02:41:34,560
for the cell culture of chicken.
This is fantastic. It's so good,

2715
02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:38,580
right? It's so good. I can't
wait. Mmm. But anyway.

2716
02:41:39,570 --> 02:41:42,510
John C Dvorak: So the guy goes
on to mention that, I wonder how

2717
02:41:42,510 --> 02:41:44,130
many vegans know of

2718
02:41:44,130 --> 02:41:48,060
Adam Curry: this? Vegans don't
know anything. So no, no. And

2719
02:41:48,210 --> 02:41:53,250
now what's really is that what's
really kicking off now is this

2720
02:41:53,280 --> 02:41:58,470
semaglutide are known as ozempic
would go V etc.

2721
02:41:58,650 --> 02:42:00,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and now
they're bringing out the pill

2722
02:42:00,510 --> 02:42:01,380
version, which

2723
02:42:01,770 --> 02:42:06,120
Adam Curry: no, it's it's not
just the pill version. It's the

2724
02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:08,580
race to create the pill version.

2725
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:10,980
Unknown: I thought the pill
version was released, we have

2726
02:42:11,310 --> 02:42:11,850
seven

2727
02:42:12,390 --> 02:42:16,350
myths. Today, a closer look at
the ways to create an approved

2728
02:42:16,530 --> 02:42:17,940
weight loss pill that

2729
02:42:17,940 --> 02:42:20,400
was epic and will go be both
wildly popular for helping

2730
02:42:20,400 --> 02:42:23,280
people shed pounds quickly. They
require an injection though,

2731
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:26,370
however, there could be an
option soon for those same drugs

2732
02:42:26,370 --> 02:42:28,110
and others without any shot.

2733
02:42:28,380 --> 02:42:30,540
Adam Curry: By the way. This is
a native ad in case you hadn't

2734
02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:31,230
guessed, and it'll

2735
02:42:31,230 --> 02:42:34,140
Unknown: likely mean lower costs
too. So here with what you need

2736
02:42:34,140 --> 02:42:38,610
to know is Dr. Roshini Raj and
associate professor of medicine

2737
02:42:38,610 --> 02:42:42,570
at NYU Langone Health. Dr. Raj.
Good morning. This is kind of a

2738
02:42:42,570 --> 02:42:45,360
big deal. A lot of people would
shy away from an injectable, but

2739
02:42:45,360 --> 02:42:47,700
maybe a pill they'd say yes to
what do you think we're gonna

2740
02:42:48,390 --> 02:42:53,220
get? I mean, it's 100%. easier
when you think about the fact

2741
02:42:53,220 --> 02:42:56,370
that the majority of Americans
are overweight or obese, we're

2742
02:42:56,370 --> 02:42:56,910
talking about,

2743
02:42:57,090 --> 02:43:01,650
Adam Curry: did you know that?
They're bringing out all these

2744
02:43:01,650 --> 02:43:05,400
associate professors who
associate professor, associate

2745
02:43:05,400 --> 02:43:08,670
professor, and she says, first
of all, she has 100 fat. And

2746
02:43:08,670 --> 02:43:13,800
then she says most Americans are
overweight or obese. Really? I

2747
02:43:13,800 --> 02:43:16,830
don't know. Is that true? Most
Americans right

2748
02:43:17,010 --> 02:43:22,140
John C Dvorak: away number 60%.
So that would be most dubious.

2749
02:43:22,140 --> 02:43:24,300
Adam Curry: Yes. All right. And
I want you to hear the talking

2750
02:43:24,300 --> 02:43:25,710
points. And we'll discuss later.

2751
02:43:25,740 --> 02:43:27,600
Unknown: I mean, it's a game
changer. When you think about

2752
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:30,270
the fact that the majority of
Americans are overweight or

2753
02:43:30,270 --> 02:43:33,510
obese. We're talking about a
huge market here. And as you

2754
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:36,390
said, the injections themselves
have been wildly popular, but

2755
02:43:36,390 --> 02:43:39,300
there many people who are either
needle phobic so they really

2756
02:43:39,300 --> 02:43:41,310
can't stand needles, or they
just wouldn't much prefer a

2757
02:43:41,310 --> 02:43:44,100
pill. So now we're going to be
opening up access to many more

2758
02:43:44,100 --> 02:43:44,460
people.

2759
02:43:44,490 --> 02:43:47,100
Would that pill be like an
everyday kind of pill that you

2760
02:43:47,100 --> 02:43:47,730
take? Yes,

2761
02:43:47,730 --> 02:43:50,970
so different drug companies are
working on pill forms, most of

2762
02:43:50,970 --> 02:43:53,610
them are once a day, one of them
is twice a day. So it is

2763
02:43:53,610 --> 02:43:55,950
something you will be taking
every day for sure. She wrote

2764
02:43:55,950 --> 02:43:58,740
cheaper than the injection. Yes,
it is actually, generally

2765
02:43:58,740 --> 02:44:01,770
speaking for medications much
cheaper to do an oral medication

2766
02:44:01,770 --> 02:44:04,470
as opposed to an injection. Many
injections have to be stored at

2767
02:44:04,470 --> 02:44:07,380
cold temperatures, just putting
it in the pen itself. All of

2768
02:44:07,380 --> 02:44:09,720
that is an expense where with
the pill, it should be

2769
02:44:09,720 --> 02:44:10,740
significantly cheaper.

2770
02:44:11,370 --> 02:44:14,700
Like needles either. Yeah,
whenever there's like a magic

2771
02:44:14,700 --> 02:44:17,700
pill, it sounds amazing. And
you've been struggling to lose

2772
02:44:17,700 --> 02:44:20,400
weight. But always on the other
side of that coin. There's stuff

2773
02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:23,340
that can go wrong. So what's the
downside to this? Yeah,

2774
02:44:23,370 --> 02:44:25,830
well, well, we talked about the
small side effects of the pill

2775
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:28,140
versus the injection, it looks
like they're the same. So

2776
02:44:28,140 --> 02:44:31,590
nausea, vomiting, constipation,
diarrhea, probably the same

2777
02:44:31,590 --> 02:44:35,250
percentage and a failure, you
know, between people will have

2778
02:44:35,250 --> 02:44:37,680
significant side effects to the
point where they need to stop.

2779
02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:40,860
But then in terms of the long
term consequences, you know, we

2780
02:44:40,860 --> 02:44:43,830
really don't know when it's I
don't know, that has been

2781
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:46,980
studied for for weight loss, you
know, this whole idea of slowing

2782
02:44:46,980 --> 02:44:49,560
down the emptying of the stomach
to make you feel full longer.

2783
02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:52,290
That's part of how these drugs
work. What are the long term

2784
02:44:52,290 --> 02:44:55,230
implications of that? And I just
want to point out the studies

2785
02:44:55,230 --> 02:44:58,530
really have looked at people who
were obese or significantly

2786
02:44:58,530 --> 02:45:01,890
overweight with a weight related
good condition. This has not

2787
02:45:01,920 --> 02:45:04,740
been studied on people who want
to lose 10 pounds before their

2788
02:45:04,740 --> 02:45:07,920
wedding in a month you know so
the fact that the pills

2789
02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:10,140
especially are going to open it
up to so many more people we're

2790
02:45:10,140 --> 02:45:12,450
also going to see a lot of
people using it for not

2791
02:45:12,450 --> 02:45:14,160
necessarily the correct
indicators but

2792
02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:16,950
are there any plans to study
that since it's clearly how

2793
02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:17,670
people are using

2794
02:45:17,670 --> 02:45:20,790
absolutely yes, because people
are using it off label doctors

2795
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:23,010
are prescribing it not
necessarily for those stricter

2796
02:45:23,010 --> 02:45:25,740
conditions. We are going to see
more research on that as well.

2797
02:45:25,770 --> 02:45:27,420
John C Dvorak: What about a
timeline on these pills? Any

2798
02:45:27,420 --> 02:45:30,960
idea how soon we could see these
come to market? Yeah, I don't

2799
02:45:30,960 --> 02:45:31,170
know

2800
02:45:31,170 --> 02:45:33,570
Unknown: this. I can never say
that we're they're actually

2801
02:45:33,900 --> 02:45:36,540
looking for approval later this
year. So that's pretty close.

2802
02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:38,940
Some of the other ones are still
doing larger trials. So we won't

2803
02:45:38,940 --> 02:45:41,190
see for until next year for the
earliest.

2804
02:45:41,400 --> 02:45:44,580
Dr. Raj. We appreciate it.
Thanks so much. Good to see you.

2805
02:45:44,610 --> 02:45:47,610
John C Dvorak: Good to see Oh,
so you get a timecode on that I

2806
02:45:47,610 --> 02:45:48,810
bet she was right on the money

2807
02:45:50,490 --> 02:45:51,600
Adam Curry: 256

2808
02:45:51,630 --> 02:45:53,640
John C Dvorak: Yep, pretty much
probably three minutes

2809
02:45:54,750 --> 02:45:57,510
Adam Curry: so if you look at
the have the insert the pack of

2810
02:45:57,510 --> 02:46:00,870
the package insert here and this
is what I find so disgusting

2811
02:46:00,900 --> 02:46:03,420
ever again. I have two more
short reports. Every single

2812
02:46:03,420 --> 02:46:06,750
report Oh yeah. You know, little
diarrhea. By the way, they have

2813
02:46:06,780 --> 02:46:09,480
diarrhea and constipation, which
is interesting. You're gonna

2814
02:46:09,480 --> 02:46:13,650
have both imagine diarrhea,
constipation, nausea, vomiting.

2815
02:46:13,650 --> 02:46:17,910
Yeah. But by the way, you know,
so is this for people who just

2816
02:46:17,910 --> 02:46:21,120
want to, you know, lose 10
pounds before the class reunion?

2817
02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:23,790
Well, that's not really how you
should use it. But yeah, that's

2818
02:46:23,790 --> 02:46:27,180
how we want you to use it. What
is

2819
02:46:27,180 --> 02:46:29,430
John C Dvorak: what they keep
saying it? Of course, this is a

2820
02:46:29,430 --> 02:46:32,040
class reunion coming up, you
know, lose some weight, don't go

2821
02:46:32,040 --> 02:46:33,420
good. There is a fat so

2822
02:46:33,570 --> 02:46:36,150
Adam Curry: here we go from the
Insert sent to us by the no

2823
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:38,760
agenda and this stasis what is
the most important information I

2824
02:46:38,760 --> 02:46:41,430
should know about ozempic
ozempic may cause serious side

2825
02:46:41,430 --> 02:46:44,040
effects, including what did you
just hear? What are the serious

2826
02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:44,820
side effects,

2827
02:46:45,660 --> 02:46:50,280
John C Dvorak: constipation,
stomach ache, nausea, maybe

2828
02:46:50,310 --> 02:46:51,690
right? Nothing much.

2829
02:46:51,720 --> 02:46:54,420
Adam Curry: According to the
packaging insert it says

2830
02:46:54,450 --> 02:46:57,720
possible thyroid tumors
including cancer. Tell your

2831
02:46:57,720 --> 02:47:00,420
health care provider if you get
a lump or swelling in your neck,

2832
02:47:00,420 --> 02:47:03,600
hoarseness, trouble swallowing
or shortness of breath. These

2833
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:06,960
may be symptoms of thyroid
cancer and studies with rodents

2834
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:10,620
ozempic and medicines that work
like ozempic Cause thyroid

2835
02:47:10,620 --> 02:47:14,130
tumors including thyroid cancer,
it is not known if ozempic will

2836
02:47:14,130 --> 02:47:17,790
cause thyroid tumors or type of
thyroid cancer called medulla

2837
02:47:17,820 --> 02:47:20,850
medullary. thyroid carcinoma and
people

2838
02:47:23,160 --> 02:47:25,140
John C Dvorak: can be avoided.
It has to be avoided.

2839
02:47:25,380 --> 02:47:26,160
Adam Curry: Here's ABC

2840
02:47:26,190 --> 02:47:28,500
Unknown: back now with medical
news, an oral version of the

2841
02:47:28,500 --> 02:47:31,560
weight loss drug ozempic is on
the way. That's all thanks to a

2842
02:47:31,560 --> 02:47:34,530
new study, researchers have
found the active ingredient and

2843
02:47:34,530 --> 02:47:38,640
both ozempic and we'll go V may
be just as effective when taken

2844
02:47:38,640 --> 02:47:42,360
as a pill instead of being
injected. Now one doctor called

2845
02:47:42,360 --> 02:47:45,480
the development a game changer
but some are warning of more

2846
02:47:45,480 --> 02:47:48,360
side effects. The oral drug
likely won't make it to the

2847
02:47:48,360 --> 02:47:49,380
market this year.

2848
02:47:49,500 --> 02:47:52,020
Adam Curry: Oh but wait, we have
to bring in Dr. Jen.

2849
02:47:52,050 --> 02:47:53,940
Unknown: Alright, let's talk
Medical News. Dr. Jan, there's a

2850
02:47:53,940 --> 02:47:56,850
brand new study that talked
about a pill version of the

2851
02:47:56,850 --> 02:47:59,280
active ingredient in the popular
weight loss drugs but it was

2852
02:47:59,280 --> 02:48:02,310
Olympic and we go v v that's
gonna be game changing.

2853
02:48:02,369 --> 02:48:05,699
Yeah, sure. Picture now we're
talking about an oral form of

2854
02:48:05,699 --> 02:48:08,549
this medication that was FDA
approved for people with type

2855
02:48:08,549 --> 02:48:12,719
two diabetes back in 2019. Now
it's being studied just for the

2856
02:48:12,749 --> 02:48:15,299
endpoint of weight loss. So
here's what the study found.

2857
02:48:15,749 --> 02:48:20,009
They looked at about 600 Plus
adults with a body mass index

2858
02:48:20,069 --> 02:48:23,849
greater than 30 they were chosen
randomly they did not I want to

2859
02:48:23,849 --> 02:48:27,389
repeat did not have type two
diabetes. In the group that took

2860
02:48:27,389 --> 02:48:31,799
this oral semaglutide brand name
rebel says they found a decrease

2861
02:48:31,799 --> 02:48:36,929
in their body mass index by 15%
compared to just over 2% in

2862
02:48:36,929 --> 02:48:41,279
those who are given placebo,
side effects were mild to

2863
02:48:41,279 --> 02:48:45,119
moderate short lived transient
mostly gastrointestinal short,

2864
02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:47,640
Adam Curry: live transient
mostly gastrointestinal

2865
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:50,520
Unknown: of nature and of course
we have to remember there is a

2866
02:48:50,520 --> 02:48:53,940
pretty significant cost to these
medications if they're not

2867
02:48:53,940 --> 02:48:56,730
covered by insurance, but
potentially now that we have

2868
02:48:56,730 --> 02:49:00,960
some good data on this oral form
it's possible we could see it

2869
02:49:00,960 --> 02:49:04,080
get an FDA approval just for
weight loss and people who are

2870
02:49:04,080 --> 02:49:05,160
overweight or obese

2871
02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:08,280
Adam Curry: this okay, this is
gonna be great. I can't wait

2872
02:49:08,580 --> 02:49:09,330
well first of

2873
02:49:09,330 --> 02:49:12,630
John C Dvorak: all, let's stop
these clips and and ask

2874
02:49:12,630 --> 02:49:16,380
ourselves why are they playing
these bullshit clips I'm going

2875
02:49:16,380 --> 02:49:22,080
to read you something right Bell
says the pill version of ozempic

2876
02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:26,580
that is currently on the market
there you go. And made by the

2877
02:49:26,580 --> 02:49:31,710
same manufacturer is approved to
cheap to treat Type Two Diabetes

2878
02:49:31,710 --> 02:49:33,000
just like ozempic

2879
02:49:33,030 --> 02:49:35,220
Adam Curry: which manufacturer
which manufacturer

2880
02:49:35,910 --> 02:49:40,410
John C Dvorak: same guys ozempic
makes this is called right Bell

2881
02:49:40,410 --> 02:49:45,570
says and you can do the off
label prescription for it. So

2882
02:49:45,630 --> 02:49:48,660
what is the point of all these
reports that are bogus there?

2883
02:49:48,690 --> 02:49:50,700
There's something else going on
here?

2884
02:49:50,820 --> 02:49:53,250
Adam Curry: Are you sure right
Bell says is from Nova nortis.

2885
02:49:54,090 --> 02:49:57,630
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
I'm just reading it. Brian Bell

2886
02:49:57,630 --> 02:50:00,120
says is the pill version of
ozempic that is current The

2887
02:50:00,120 --> 02:50:04,500
other market and made by the
same manufacturer you look up

2888
02:50:04,500 --> 02:50:11,220
right Bell says RYBEL S U S
going to get more details

2889
02:50:11,550 --> 02:50:12,750
manufacture

2890
02:50:12,810 --> 02:50:16,620
Adam Curry: okay this is
interesting well so it's either

2891
02:50:16,620 --> 02:50:22,170
an ad against know you're right
Novo Nordisk announces FDA

2892
02:50:22,170 --> 02:50:25,500
approval of label update. Oh
label update. Okay.

2893
02:50:26,100 --> 02:50:28,020
John C Dvorak: They already had
it out. It's been out for a

2894
02:50:28,020 --> 02:50:28,530
while.

2895
02:50:28,560 --> 02:50:31,830
Adam Curry: Well, what is maybe
it's not working right. Why oh,

2896
02:50:31,859 --> 02:50:34,109
John C Dvorak: why something
else? There's some other vendor

2897
02:50:34,109 --> 02:50:37,739
coming in Pfizer, I'm guessing.
Yeah. Let's see, this is

2898
02:50:37,739 --> 02:50:41,999
bullshit. These, everything you
played? Is some part of some

2899
02:50:41,999 --> 02:50:42,599
marketing?

2900
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:45,480
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, of
course, we just haven't quite

2901
02:50:45,510 --> 02:50:46,920
put our hand how do they get it?
How

2902
02:50:46,920 --> 02:50:49,350
John C Dvorak: do they live with
themselves? These people?

2903
02:50:52,740 --> 02:50:55,260
Adam Curry: They just look at
their penthouse. They look at

2904
02:50:55,260 --> 02:50:58,350
their Rolls Royce. Yeah, I
couldn't live with myself. Let's

2905
02:50:58,350 --> 02:50:59,430
finish up with Dr. Jenn.

2906
02:50:59,460 --> 02:51:01,890
Unknown: Is there a reason you
would choose the pill or the

2907
02:51:01,890 --> 02:51:04,980
injection or the injection over
the to me, it'd be like you Why

2908
02:51:04,980 --> 02:51:06,780
would you give yourself a shot?
Well, first

2909
02:51:06,780 --> 02:51:09,930
of all frequency of dosage, the
injection, which by the way, is

2910
02:51:09,960 --> 02:51:12,930
is not painful. But a lot of
people just don't like the idea

2911
02:51:12,930 --> 02:51:15,600
of giving themselves an
injection. It does have to be

2912
02:51:15,600 --> 02:51:19,800
refrigerated. It's dosed on a
weekly basis, once a week, this

2913
02:51:19,800 --> 02:51:22,470
pill obviously would not be
refrigerated, and it would be

2914
02:51:22,470 --> 02:51:24,930
taken every single day. So just
a different route of

2915
02:51:24,930 --> 02:51:28,590
administration. I think it's
great. We're seeing more in the

2916
02:51:28,590 --> 02:51:31,800
field of obesity medicine for
options for management and

2917
02:51:31,800 --> 02:51:34,800
treatment. Again, not for
everyone. But for some people,

2918
02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:37,470
this could be significant. Who
said had more options. Thank

2919
02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:37,800
you.

2920
02:51:37,860 --> 02:51:42,180
Adam Curry: Okay. Here's why.
Right, Bell says has only

2921
02:51:42,180 --> 02:51:45,540
received FDA approval for people
with type two diabetes, what

2922
02:51:45,540 --> 02:51:49,170
they're talking about here is
the same damn pill with a

2923
02:51:49,170 --> 02:51:52,890
different label on it called
ozempic in pill form, and that

2924
02:51:52,920 --> 02:51:54,510
that will be b is

2925
02:51:54,630 --> 02:51:56,880
John C Dvorak: going to be
ozempic. And pill formers are

2926
02:51:56,880 --> 02:51:58,440
going to be a different company.

2927
02:52:00,090 --> 02:52:02,730
Adam Curry: The what the slide
show is ozempic They show

2928
02:52:02,730 --> 02:52:09,120
ozempic in 2023. Pfizer not
known yet probably 2025. Pfizer,

2929
02:52:09,120 --> 02:52:13,200
by the way has not done well
with stage two trials. Of course

2930
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:16,470
not because people are gonna die
from this. Don't take this

2931
02:52:16,470 --> 02:52:17,070
people.

2932
02:52:18,120 --> 02:52:18,930
John C Dvorak: Yes, just,

2933
02:52:19,410 --> 02:52:21,900
Adam Curry: I don't want to give
you medical advice, but I'm just

2934
02:52:21,900 --> 02:52:25,080
looking at the insert and it
doesn't look like a good idea to

2935
02:52:25,080 --> 02:52:27,690
me. Final from NBC.

2936
02:52:27,930 --> 02:52:30,420
Unknown: Also this evening, a
lot of people buzzing about

2937
02:52:30,420 --> 02:52:34,560
ozempic Is it a miracle drug for
losing weight? A doctor at

2938
02:52:34,560 --> 02:52:36,090
Stanford says yes. Now

2939
02:52:36,120 --> 02:52:38,790
Adam Curry: here comes another
Associate Professor and listen

2940
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:42,600
to this. I don't know what this
is why this is from your area,

2941
02:52:42,810 --> 02:52:46,710
NBC Bay Area, they do a whole
native ad up there. The real

2942
02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:47,070
thing

2943
02:52:47,070 --> 02:52:50,490
Unknown: is epics primary use is
to help people with type two

2944
02:52:50,490 --> 02:52:53,970
diabetes to regulate their blood
sugar levels. But it's quickly

2945
02:52:53,970 --> 02:52:56,700
become the latest craze for
weight loss according to

2946
02:52:56,700 --> 02:53:00,810
experts, it can help patients
shed up to 15% of their body

2947
02:53:00,810 --> 02:53:03,780
weight within a matter of
months. If you're looking to

2948
02:53:03,780 --> 02:53:06,930
drop some pounds, you might be
thinking Sign me up. But there

2949
02:53:06,930 --> 02:53:10,500
are some downsides here. Let's
talk about it. The doctors Dan,

2950
02:53:10,500 --> 02:53:11,130
as long as

2951
02:53:12,270 --> 02:53:14,910
Adam Curry: this is another
native ad that just they're just

2952
02:53:14,910 --> 02:53:17,340
going to tell you it's good for
your high school reunion. Some

2953
02:53:17,340 --> 02:53:19,740
Unknown: downsides here. Let's
talk about it with us tonight.

2954
02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:22,350
Dr. Dan Zagros. Excuse me.

2955
02:53:25,110 --> 02:53:29,550
Dr. Thanks for being with us.
Does it really work? And is it

2956
02:53:29,550 --> 02:53:31,350
Adam Curry: safe? Does it work?
And is it safe?

2957
02:53:33,240 --> 02:53:36,840
Unknown: Yeah, thank you for
having me rush. It works and

2958
02:53:36,840 --> 02:53:37,290
it's safe.

2959
02:53:37,320 --> 02:53:41,430
Adam Curry: There you go. It
works. It's safe and effective.

2960
02:53:41,550 --> 02:53:47,400
Unknown: And is the role of the
FDA is to tell us that and

2961
02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:48,660
that's exactly what they've
said.

2962
02:53:48,720 --> 02:53:50,340
Adam Curry: Oh, the role of FDA.

2963
02:53:50,880 --> 02:53:51,690
Unknown: Oh my god, I

2964
02:53:51,690 --> 02:53:54,450
Adam Curry: can't believe what
we're doing to our our fellow

2965
02:53:54,450 --> 02:54:00,930
citizens. It's just it's so
outrageous. I don't know what to

2966
02:54:00,930 --> 02:54:01,320
do.

2967
02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:04,950
John C Dvorak: The only thing
you can do is to vote for RFK

2968
02:54:04,950 --> 02:54:05,490
Jr.

2969
02:54:05,520 --> 02:54:06,270
Adam Curry: There you go.

2970
02:54:06,870 --> 02:54:09,660
Unknown: I'm going to show my
school by donating to no agenda.

2971
02:54:09,720 --> 02:54:12,870
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2972
02:54:20,550 --> 02:54:24,720
John C Dvorak: we have a few
people to thank for show 51 568

2973
02:54:25,620 --> 02:54:29,910
Starting with dirty Jersey
whore. Dirty Jersey horror from

2974
02:54:29,910 --> 02:54:36,030
Gladewater Texas. I was those
from Jersey 197 60 which is

2975
02:54:36,030 --> 02:54:38,310
almost 200 bucks. I want you to
give him a biscuit for his

2976
02:54:38,310 --> 02:54:39,510
birthdays on the list.

2977
02:54:39,540 --> 02:54:42,330
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. I have a biscuit right

2978
02:54:42,330 --> 02:54:46,050
here. They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. Biscuit,

2979
02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:50,490
John C Dvorak: Jennifer girly
and Beachwood, Ohio. This is for

2980
02:54:50,490 --> 02:54:56,640
Bob's birthday 133 Ted mermell.
in Teaneck, New Jersey 118.

2981
02:54:56,640 --> 02:55:00,000
That's your neck of the woods.
Chris Casey in Georgetown Tech.

2982
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:00,120
cuz

2983
02:55:00,120 --> 02:55:02,070
Adam Curry: I live in Texas What
are you talking about

2984
02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:03,330
John C Dvorak: used to live in
Teaneck?

2985
02:55:04,290 --> 02:55:05,460
Adam Curry: Not even close.

2986
02:55:06,660 --> 02:55:08,940
John C Dvorak: Chris case it
sounds good though when I when

2987
02:55:08,940 --> 02:55:13,380
it rolls off the tongue Teaneck
Georgetown, Texas that's your

2988
02:55:13,380 --> 02:55:17,730
neck of the woods $100.33 with a
birthday coming up. James

2989
02:55:17,730 --> 02:55:20,970
Williams in San Antonio, Texas
switcheroo for Jim Williams, his

2990
02:55:20,970 --> 02:55:28,140
son from his son James is even
for bootcamp and $100 David K

2991
02:55:28,140 --> 02:55:34,560
keys in Riverside, California
100 polet Dubuc in Briarcliff

2992
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:39,330
Manor, New York. Another
birthday for his son Tim, or his

2993
02:55:39,330 --> 02:55:44,940
son Tim, who introduced him to
the show. Good. Jason Feingold

2994
02:55:44,940 --> 02:55:51,210
Los Angeles, California $100
bold FX in Lafayette, Colorado.

2995
02:55:52,860 --> 02:55:58,650
100 Jennifer Williams in small
town Texas. That's outside of

2996
02:55:58,650 --> 02:56:08,130
Dallas, Nisa de douching. You've
been de deuced is talking about

2997
02:56:08,130 --> 02:56:11,850
a switcheroo. I'm gonna make
mention of this note. She says.

2998
02:56:12,480 --> 02:56:18,120
Just have to say John is right.
The bear is good.

2999
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:22,050
Adam Curry: Now you said you
didn't like it. That's horrible.

3000
02:56:22,050 --> 02:56:26,850
The bear is a lie. It's a
dynamite show. We have two more

3001
02:56:26,850 --> 02:56:29,580
episodes left. I love this show.

3002
02:56:31,140 --> 02:56:34,800
John C Dvorak: I am right.
Jennifer knows as gracious or

3003
02:56:34,800 --> 02:56:38,580
hold my beer in Austin, Texas.
90 9060.

3004
02:56:39,119 --> 02:56:40,769
Adam Curry: Baron. Yeah, Baronet
you got it

3005
02:56:41,550 --> 02:56:48,120
John C Dvorak: ever bought in
Maastricht Netherlands took him

3006
02:56:48,120 --> 02:56:51,930
forever to get his money and I
guess $85 And he's got a

3007
02:56:51,930 --> 02:56:56,550
mustache meet up. Which would be
great.

3008
02:56:56,550 --> 02:56:58,920
Adam Curry: Yes. And he's a
first time donor so we'll give

3009
02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:05,130
him a DD you've been de deuced
has not missed an episode since

3010
02:57:05,130 --> 02:57:10,470
2017. He likes it for our with
who is and candour

3011
02:57:10,650 --> 02:57:12,660
John C Dvorak: though quit his
way it makes it work. That's

3012
02:57:12,660 --> 02:57:19,140
nice. Brian Gordon Carthage
North Carolina 85. I'm sorry 808

3013
02:57:19,170 --> 02:57:23,430
Boobs man, North Carolina. They
all are. Kevin McLaughlin, our

3014
02:57:23,430 --> 02:57:29,070
buddy no locust, Sir Kevin 808
Burn lamb and Sugar Hill Georgia

3015
02:57:29,070 --> 02:57:32,400
haven't heard from him for a
while. 808 nice catching up

3016
02:57:32,400 --> 02:57:36,960
while on vacation. Eric Adler in
Punta Gorda, Florida 808 William

3017
02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:43,650
Kidwell in Dover Delaware 7379.
Birthday for Greg Gabe Grider.

3018
02:57:43,800 --> 02:57:47,760
in Smithville, actually Zuri for
his mom shares.

3019
02:57:48,029 --> 02:57:51,599
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm Mara Lee
Grider her 73rd birthday on June

3020
02:57:51,599 --> 02:57:52,829
Nice, nice.

3021
02:57:54,000 --> 02:57:57,180
John C Dvorak: Patch. Hold on.
If she needs an F cans known

3022
02:57:58,440 --> 02:58:00,660
Adam Curry: her best friend
Susan needs an F cancer. We'll

3023
02:58:00,660 --> 02:58:01,440
do that the end.

3024
02:58:03,420 --> 02:58:08,250
John C Dvorak: Greg Kohler in
Evansville, Indiana 6502 which

3025
02:58:08,250 --> 02:58:16,320
is the chip. A Jamie Buell in
Vista California 606 Ryan? Jenna

3026
02:58:16,320 --> 02:58:21,030
is small boobs also Brian genic
in Kansas Ville, Wisconsin

3027
02:58:21,030 --> 02:58:27,420
60 6006 Peter Chung and Lakewood
Washington 5510 DAVID Oh in

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02:58:27,420 --> 02:58:30,840
areas David and Gladstone,
Missouri, David Fergus zotoh Sir

3029
02:58:30,840 --> 02:58:37,320
David, Duke 2151 America's
heartland of America's

3030
02:58:37,320 --> 02:58:45,600
Heartland, bird distributing LLC
and coming Georgia 5069 James

3031
02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:50,310
Liddell in Alameda, California
5033, loves the trans Maoism

3032
02:58:50,310 --> 02:58:55,920
material. A Scott McCarty in
Lodi, California 50 all and that

3033
02:58:55,920 --> 02:58:59,160
means you're on the 50 so all
$50 donors name and location

3034
02:58:59,160 --> 02:59:03,330
here we go. Douglas Ellis in New
York City, Shana Norberg and

3035
02:59:03,330 --> 02:59:11,520
Seattle Washington, Jack show
Feld and yankeetown Florida

3036
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forest Scott Brinkley and
Christiansburg Virginia

3037
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Elizabeth Frank kowski in Dade
City, Florida, Douglas Mook in

3038
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cochranton, Pennsylvania.
Gilbert Fraga in Los Angeles,

3039
02:59:27,780 --> 02:59:32,460
Donald Smith in Westerville,
Ohio, Daniel Smith in Lee's

3040
02:59:32,460 --> 02:59:38,460
Summit, Missouri needs a de
douching you've been de deuced

3041
02:59:39,480 --> 02:59:41,940
Sir Richard Gardner I think he's
in New York but he could be

3042
02:59:41,940 --> 02:59:46,230
elsewhere. Aaron wise Berger
Gerber. Why is Gerber in Bend,

3043
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Oregon, Sonny paying and Lee
Lancaster UK, Greg Hartlaub. In

3044
02:59:52,860 --> 02:59:56,430
Cincinnati, Michael Elmore, and
guests Stoney in North Carolina

3045
02:59:56,430 --> 03:00:02,550
is F green and another fellow in
Teaneck, New Jersey it's getting

3046
03:00:02,550 --> 03:00:07,980
crowded. David steel and mobile
Mobile, Alabama, Justin Kaler

3047
03:00:07,980 --> 03:00:13,560
and left in Indiana. Ray Howard
and Kremling Colorado. Kevin

3048
03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:20,160
McLean in Port St. Lucie,
Florida. Simon Smith in Heber

3049
03:00:20,190 --> 03:00:24,780
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3050
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3051
03:00:29,730 --> 03:00:32,490
okay. I'm taking his advice

3052
03:00:32,520 --> 03:00:36,150
Adam Curry: I like how you sent
it to me like Wednesday night at

3053
03:00:36,480 --> 03:00:39,030
midnight newsletter please
review

3054
03:00:40,560 --> 03:00:42,690
John C Dvorak: you don't do it
till the next day it gives you

3055
03:00:42,690 --> 03:00:43,410
plenty of time

3056
03:00:43,439 --> 03:00:49,799
Adam Curry: yeah but I my phone
went off ding I'm like wow well

3057
03:00:49,799 --> 03:00:54,209
I have you on your on my special
do you get a ding no you're

3058
03:00:54,569 --> 03:00:57,359
you're on my you're allowed to
go through the Do Not Disturb if

3059
03:00:57,359 --> 03:01:00,329
you call me it will ring I have
your like my family.

3060
03:01:02,310 --> 03:01:04,710
John C Dvorak: Kyle man in
Cincinnati, Ohio is too because

3061
03:01:04,710 --> 03:01:09,090
he gives us $50 Brian sharp in
Huntsville, Alabama. Huntsville,

3062
03:01:09,090 --> 03:01:13,680
Alabama. Brian A Brandon I'm
sorry, go Brandon Locklear and

3063
03:01:13,680 --> 03:01:18,420
sugar Sugar Hill, Georgia, Gil
woods and Ocean Grove, New

3064
03:01:18,420 --> 03:01:24,690
Jersey. And last but not least,
Julie Mina Dale Mina Dale Mineo

3065
03:01:24,870 --> 03:01:28,200
maybe in Costa Mesa, California
want to thank these people for

3066
03:01:28,200 --> 03:01:33,000
making sure 1568 the success
that it is And special

3067
03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:35,730
Adam Curry: thanks to everybody
who came in under $50 Typically

3068
03:01:35,730 --> 03:01:38,670
for reasons of anonymity but
also a lot of people on those

3069
03:01:39,090 --> 03:01:42,330
sustaining donations which are
subscriptions. We really

3070
03:01:42,330 --> 03:01:44,700
appreciate you doing that. It
always gives us a base to work

3071
03:01:44,700 --> 03:01:53,460
from and as requested. You've
got karma we have a quick make

3072
03:01:53,460 --> 03:02:00,390
do. This is from Frank Dovin.
Borden, who sent Yes, he has his

3073
03:02:00,390 --> 03:02:02,160
note didn't come in until hours
later.

3074
03:02:02,400 --> 03:02:06,690
John C Dvorak: This was like
last shows he had, but But he'd

3075
03:02:06,690 --> 03:02:08,730
sent 600 bucks and I think total

3076
03:02:08,730 --> 03:02:11,580
Adam Curry: 750 total I think,
and he

3077
03:02:12,120 --> 03:02:15,390
John C Dvorak: his note comes in
three hours after the show's

3078
03:02:15,390 --> 03:02:15,840
over.

3079
03:02:15,840 --> 03:02:18,390
Adam Curry: It was very weird.
Anyway, here it is. He said I

3080
03:02:18,390 --> 03:02:22,350
made a few donations a US
dollars before but before before

3081
03:02:22,350 --> 03:02:25,230
but things are getting grim up
north. So this donation is the

3082
03:02:25,230 --> 03:02:29,370
Canadian equivalent of $750 and
some more dollars. As a part

3083
03:02:29,370 --> 03:02:32,100
time Uber driver I hear a lot of
opinions all across the spread

3084
03:02:32,130 --> 03:02:35,730
spectrum ding and I get to
regularly hit people in the

3085
03:02:35,730 --> 03:02:39,420
mouth Adams a former duchy I do
so appreciate that you that you

3086
03:02:39,420 --> 03:02:42,540
to let a Dutch word sometimes
seep seamlessly in your

3087
03:02:42,540 --> 03:02:46,950
elaborations for older hanawa
John see your insights are

3088
03:02:46,950 --> 03:02:50,670
priceless and your knowledge of
food and wine or refreshing my

3089
03:02:50,670 --> 03:02:53,220
lowly Canadian donation
hopefully it gets me the coveted

3090
03:02:53,220 --> 03:02:56,490
knighthood it does please Knight
me sir Dr. Frank Knight of the

3091
03:02:56,490 --> 03:03:00,090
Lonsdale we got a doctor in the
house. He wants house selling

3092
03:03:00,090 --> 03:03:03,390
and background upgrade karma and
I would like to hear the yes no

3093
03:03:03,390 --> 03:03:07,260
jingle. I had to replay that a
couple of times from my wife as

3094
03:03:07,260 --> 03:03:10,620
she loved it so much now she
sings it randomly what a woman

3095
03:03:10,890 --> 03:03:15,600
married to her for 29 years and
they never had a fight. Free

3096
03:03:15,600 --> 03:03:19,080
Space shall and flower and a cow
across at the round table.

3097
03:03:19,080 --> 03:03:21,990
Please hold on need to add this
here. Didn't see that in the

3098
03:03:21,990 --> 03:03:27,240
beginning. That's a that's a
french fries with a freespace

3099
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:34,530
Xiao is with mayonnaise. Ketchup
and onions. Mayonnaise, ketchup

3100
03:03:34,530 --> 03:03:39,990
and onion. Yes. On the french
fries fried special. And what do

3101
03:03:39,990 --> 03:03:45,840
you say the good luck the muscle
may never have find an exit

3102
03:03:45,840 --> 03:03:49,170
strategy from day one forward in
North Vancouver. Gitmo north.

3103
03:03:49,410 --> 03:03:52,710
Korea's the ya know wasn't ya
know, you know, you know, you

3104
03:03:52,710 --> 03:03:55,050
know I think it's this one.
Yeah,

3105
03:03:55,050 --> 03:03:55,230
Unknown: that's

3106
03:03:55,230 --> 03:03:57,990
Adam Curry: not that one. Yeah,
no, it's this one.

3107
03:04:02,550 --> 03:04:03,690
Unknown: Yeah, no, no.

3108
03:04:03,960 --> 03:04:08,550
You're saying Yeah, well, you're
saying no.

3109
03:04:08,670 --> 03:04:11,730
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, yeah, no.
Yeah, no,

3110
03:04:11,790 --> 03:04:15,900
Unknown: I don't know why you're
saying Yeah. was saying no.

3111
03:04:15,930 --> 03:04:19,230
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, no. Yeah,
no,

3112
03:04:19,290 --> 03:04:23,370
Unknown: I don't know why you're
saying yeah, I was saying no.

3113
03:04:23,430 --> 03:04:25,590
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, yeah,
no, yeah.

3114
03:04:25,620 --> 03:04:29,100
Unknown: vorak.org/and pay

3115
03:04:36,180 --> 03:04:37,410
sir Devin turned

3116
03:04:37,410 --> 03:04:40,560
Adam Curry: 23 on June 4, we say
happy birthday to him circumvent

3117
03:04:40,560 --> 03:04:43,500
wishes Dame G money and belated
happy birthday from the 26th

3118
03:04:43,500 --> 03:04:46,500
Sorry, we missed that damn G
money. Matthew. Oh rockball

3119
03:04:46,500 --> 03:04:51,480
turns 33 Today Kathy rego Happy
Birthday to Bluma celebrated

3120
03:04:51,480 --> 03:04:54,870
yesterday, sir dirty Jersey
horror turning 47 today Chris

3121
03:04:54,870 --> 03:04:59,070
Casey celebrating on July 29.
Game Grider wishes his mother

3122
03:04:59,070 --> 03:05:03,270
merrily Grider Happy Birthday
turned 73 Tomorrow, black nights

3123
03:05:03,270 --> 03:05:07,050
are easy turns 44 on the 30th
Jennifer Gourley wishes her

3124
03:05:07,050 --> 03:05:10,500
husband Bob a happy birthday for
July 3 sure Eric wishes his

3125
03:05:10,500 --> 03:05:15,900
smokin hot wife happy birthday
and polar Dewback wishes his son

3126
03:05:15,930 --> 03:05:18,540
Happy birthday we say happy
birthday from everybody here's

3127
03:05:18,540 --> 03:05:20,790
the best podcast in the universe

3128
03:05:29,640 --> 03:05:32,880
don't want to be induced we have
three title changes today

3129
03:05:32,880 --> 03:05:36,120
circumvent becomes even though
we didn't really want the title

3130
03:05:36,120 --> 03:05:39,690
change circumvent Baron of the
Northern Territory we are happy

3131
03:05:39,690 --> 03:05:43,140
to give you that title chain sir
surveilled by counter FEMA

3132
03:05:43,140 --> 03:05:47,040
Region for now a barren and Sir
hold my beer becomes a barren at

3133
03:05:47,040 --> 03:05:50,250
all thanks to your additional
support of the no agenda show

3134
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the best podcast in the universe
we really appreciate it and

3135
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:55,680
finally we got some nights to
bring up on stage there's my

3136
03:05:55,680 --> 03:05:59,370
blade I'm we've got three so
bring a three primary Oh,

3137
03:05:59,400 --> 03:06:01,530
John C Dvorak: let me give you
the gold plated one.

3138
03:06:01,859 --> 03:06:07,019
Adam Curry: Oh, whoa that's
nice. Up on the podium please

3139
03:06:07,019 --> 03:06:11,519
Stephen George Dyson Ford and
and JD Sutton all three of us

3140
03:06:11,519 --> 03:06:14,249
for the no agenda show on the
amount of $1,000 or more very,

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very proud to pronounce the k d
as Sir Cucaracha of the

3142
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Northwoods sir Dr. Frank Knight
of Lansdale, and Sir JD Knight

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of the shimmering seat,
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milk and pablum. And, of course,
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mutton and Mead, head over to no
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3151
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us know where to send them what
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of authenticity. They really are
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03:07:11,219 --> 03:07:14,369
about them. Thank you all so
much for supporting the best

3158
03:07:14,369 --> 03:07:17,339
podcast in the universe. Know
what?

3159
03:07:25,110 --> 03:07:29,130
A party indeed. And there was a
big party in Aurora Illinois at

3160
03:07:29,130 --> 03:07:33,840
the meet up from Brian who who
did that meet up who arranged

3161
03:07:33,840 --> 03:07:36,810
all that he sent in a written
report he says mostly familiar

3162
03:07:36,810 --> 03:07:39,570
faces but there were some new
ones. We had like 10 or 12

3163
03:07:39,570 --> 03:07:42,450
people at most three nights and
Dames I forgot my ring, so I

3164
03:07:42,450 --> 03:07:45,240
bought some drinks. No need to
mention on the show. Well, too

3165
03:07:45,240 --> 03:07:48,270
late, but I'm hosting one in
batavia illinois next Sunday.

3166
03:07:48,450 --> 03:07:51,450
That's July 2, if you care to
mention Yes, of course Brian and

3167
03:07:51,450 --> 03:07:55,500
we are very happy to mention
that. I would also like to play

3168
03:07:55,500 --> 03:07:59,760
this promo for the North Idaho
flotilla meet up because you

3169
03:07:59,760 --> 03:08:01,500
need to prepare for it.

3170
03:08:06,150 --> 03:08:08,940
Unknown: Amen. I can't seem to
find a place where I won't be

3171
03:08:08,940 --> 03:08:12,270
triggered or held to blame. A
place where everybody feels the

3172
03:08:12,270 --> 03:08:16,890
same, you know, like a party. If
you're looking for a party this

3173
03:08:16,890 --> 03:08:19,410
August come out to Lake quarter
lane where the North Idaho

3174
03:08:19,410 --> 03:08:22,560
Saturday brigade is hosting a
party where all slaves of Gitmo

3175
03:08:22,560 --> 03:08:25,380
nation can hang out together for
a day. Have fun in the sun. Mark

3176
03:08:25,380 --> 03:08:28,380
your calendars for Saturday,
August 12. And if you got a boat

3177
03:08:28,410 --> 03:08:30,420
bring one but don't forget to
RSVP.

3178
03:08:31,289 --> 03:08:33,329
John C Dvorak: That's right. The
beaches are open.

3179
03:08:34,920 --> 03:08:37,080
Adam Curry: Today the south
Mississippi testing the turnout

3180
03:08:37,080 --> 03:08:41,370
Meetup is taking place at 3/25
street and Laurel Missouri.

3181
03:08:41,370 --> 03:08:45,150
That'll be at six o'clock today.
The Mile High rain Dodgers 630

3182
03:08:45,150 --> 03:08:49,230
Mountain Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, the I must be

3183
03:08:49,230 --> 03:08:51,780
high number 12 one year of
meetups that'll be tomorrow

3184
03:08:51,780 --> 03:08:54,870
McSorley's wonderful saloon and
Grill in Toronto, Ontario,

3185
03:08:55,170 --> 03:09:01,590
Canada. Fort Wayne club 33. No
Oh agenda meet up hills halls

3186
03:09:01,590 --> 03:09:05,370
tavern at Coventry in Fort Wayne
Indiana Saturday. Also on

3187
03:09:05,370 --> 03:09:08,520
Saturday, the central Ohio meet
up at three o'clock and Garrett

3188
03:09:08,550 --> 03:09:12,990
are German beer Garten in
Columbus, Ohio, and the

3189
03:09:12,990 --> 03:09:16,050
Riverside on the Fox meetup will
take place on Sunday. Our next

3190
03:09:16,050 --> 03:09:19,080
show day at two o'clock at
Riverside pizza and pub in

3191
03:09:19,080 --> 03:09:22,800
Batavia, Illinois. These are
just a few of the many no agenda

3192
03:09:22,800 --> 03:09:25,470
meetups that are scheduled for
the next few days. But they

3193
03:09:25,470 --> 03:09:28,050
really go through months and
months all over the world,

3194
03:09:28,230 --> 03:09:35,460
including Zurich, Switzerland on
June July 15. And we still have

3195
03:09:35,460 --> 03:09:39,060
the July 9 and conference I'd
like to know where that's being

3196
03:09:39,060 --> 03:09:41,940
held and who was taking care of
that and I would like a meet up

3197
03:09:41,970 --> 03:09:44,910
report from you guys. No agenda
meetups go to no agenda

3198
03:09:44,910 --> 03:09:49,020
meetups.com You need this to
find your community. You will be

3199
03:09:49,110 --> 03:09:54,630
loved. You will be you will be
kept safe. Connection is

3200
03:09:54,630 --> 03:09:57,090
protection. That's why you need
to go to a no gender meetup no

3201
03:09:57,090 --> 03:09:59,970
agenda meetup.com If you can't
find one near us Darwen, you

3202
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:01,620
yourself sometimes you

3203
03:10:01,620 --> 03:10:07,920
Unknown: want to go hang out
with all the Dyson days. You'd

3204
03:10:09,300 --> 03:10:18,960
be triggered. You want to be a
buddy feels the same. It's like

3205
03:10:18,960 --> 03:10:19,050
a

3206
03:10:21,450 --> 03:10:25,470
Adam Curry: sure is. Do you have
any ISOs? Oh yes you do. Thank

3207
03:10:25,470 --> 03:10:30,630
goodness I'm poor on I'm poor on
ISOs today Yeah, none I've won

3208
03:10:30,660 --> 03:10:33,870
one ISO play yours first. Oh
good. It's no good. I'm ashamed.

3209
03:10:33,870 --> 03:10:36,480
I'm ashamed that I'm playing
this but here we go. Happy

3210
03:10:36,480 --> 03:10:39,810
Pride. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed
of it is bad. I'm

3211
03:10:39,810 --> 03:10:41,940
John C Dvorak: ashamed of it,
run it through the Adobe product

3212
03:10:41,940 --> 03:10:42,750
maybe it'll be better.

3213
03:10:43,020 --> 03:10:46,470
Adam Curry: No, nothing can fix.
Nothing can fix the admiral.

3214
03:10:47,100 --> 03:10:49,290
John C Dvorak: Alright, I got
three. Okay, let's start with

3215
03:10:49,290 --> 03:10:50,250
mindless,

3216
03:10:50,280 --> 03:10:52,080
Unknown: mindless obedient
soldiers.

3217
03:10:53,370 --> 03:10:54,510
Adam Curry: Okay, so Peterson

3218
03:10:55,140 --> 03:10:57,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah. No agenda.

3219
03:10:57,780 --> 03:10:59,340
Unknown: No has no agenda.

3220
03:11:01,140 --> 03:11:04,530
John C Dvorak: Destitute North
Korean woman Yeah. Yeah. She has

3221
03:11:04,530 --> 03:11:07,620
this long spiel she gives and
Mimi caught her saying no agenda

3222
03:11:07,620 --> 03:11:09,330
at the 33 second, Martin.

3223
03:11:10,199 --> 03:11:12,779
Adam Curry: That's yeah, that's
a sign if I ever heard one

3224
03:11:12,810 --> 03:11:16,890
John C Dvorak: sums up. And then
last is Thanks, guys. Thanks,

3225
03:11:16,890 --> 03:11:18,240
guys. Have a great weekend.

3226
03:11:19,500 --> 03:11:20,880
Unknown: Huh? This

3227
03:11:21,690 --> 03:11:23,730
John C Dvorak: is the best
because we got the Fourth of

3228
03:11:23,730 --> 03:11:26,070
July weekend coming up. Thanks,
guys. Oh,

3229
03:11:27,090 --> 03:11:28,710
Adam Curry: yeah, it's not that
clear.

3230
03:11:28,710 --> 03:11:31,290
John C Dvorak: But last night
clear. Run it through the note.

3231
03:11:31,290 --> 03:11:31,560
What do you

3232
03:11:31,560 --> 03:11:33,660
Adam Curry: think I'd have time
to do all this? Do you know how

3233
03:11:33,660 --> 03:11:36,420
much work I do? I make it look
easy to vorak. You just sit

3234
03:11:36,420 --> 03:11:39,300
there and Grouse in the mic. I
do all the work

3235
03:11:39,300 --> 03:11:42,090
John C Dvorak: and my job is but
that's my job. I My job is to

3236
03:11:42,090 --> 03:11:46,500
Grouse in the mic. And grousing
is not easy.

3237
03:11:47,099 --> 03:11:50,789
Adam Curry: I'll give you that.
It's not easy. All right. We

3238
03:11:50,789 --> 03:11:54,779
have we have we have room. We
have time for one more something

3239
03:11:54,779 --> 03:11:55,199
or other I'm

3240
03:11:55,200 --> 03:11:57,810
John C Dvorak: sure well, I have
why have a two parter. I want to

3241
03:11:57,810 --> 03:12:01,680
get out of the way. Okay. And
this is the Germany getting cozy

3242
03:12:01,680 --> 03:12:04,830
with China clips. And I think
they're important because

3243
03:12:04,830 --> 03:12:07,350
something's up with these clips.

3244
03:12:07,590 --> 03:12:09,720
Adam Curry: Okay, I have my
thoughts already. I'm looking

3245
03:12:09,720 --> 03:12:12,030
forward to it. Clip one.

3246
03:12:12,750 --> 03:12:15,810
Unknown: One step closer to
China, one step away from

3247
03:12:15,810 --> 03:12:20,190
Europe. German Chancellor left
Schultz and Chinese Premier Li

3248
03:12:20,190 --> 03:12:23,520
Jiang on Tuesday, agreed to
support free trade after

3249
03:12:23,520 --> 03:12:27,690
intergovernmental talks in
Berlin. shores has come under

3250
03:12:27,690 --> 03:12:31,080
fire for the talks, which
critics say are not appropriate

3251
03:12:31,080 --> 03:12:34,020
anymore given growing
geopolitical tensions between

3252
03:12:34,020 --> 03:12:37,980
the West and China. A German
intelligence agency published a

3253
03:12:37,980 --> 03:12:42,300
warning in a report on Tuesday.
The report says China is aiming

3254
03:12:42,300 --> 03:12:46,560
to obtain German technology to
bolster its military. It also

3255
03:12:46,560 --> 03:12:51,060
highlights the risk of cyber
spying operations. Despite that,

3256
03:12:51,090 --> 03:12:53,760
the German Chancellor defended
his position on the two

3257
03:12:53,760 --> 03:12:57,120
countries relationship, please
the author and historian Philip

3258
03:12:57,120 --> 03:13:00,360
Fabri says Germany's tough spot
comes from the country's

3259
03:13:00,360 --> 03:13:03,570
economic choices, but it will
industry and

3260
03:13:03,570 --> 03:13:06,420
a large part of China's
industrialization has been

3261
03:13:06,420 --> 03:13:09,630
achieved through the purchase of
German machine tools, which is

3262
03:13:09,630 --> 03:13:13,200
the biggest export sector for
the German economy. So naturally

3263
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:16,440
exporting those as vital for
Germany. Most conditions

3264
03:13:16,440 --> 03:13:19,380
Germany's relationship with
China and puts it at odds with

3265
03:13:19,380 --> 03:13:22,230
the interests of many other
Western countries, notably the

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03:13:22,230 --> 03:13:23,190
United States.

3267
03:13:24,060 --> 03:13:27,000
The German Chancellor's position
doesn't come as a surprise

3268
03:13:27,000 --> 03:13:31,620
though, when visiting China in
November 2022. Shorts promoted

3269
03:13:31,620 --> 03:13:35,850
partnership with the country.
And in May, he confirmed a deal

3270
03:13:35,850 --> 03:13:39,570
to allow a Chinese shipping
company to take a minority stake

3271
03:13:39,570 --> 03:13:43,500
in a container terminal at
Hamburg port. February says

3272
03:13:43,530 --> 03:13:47,010
these moves from Germany make it
more and more isolated from

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03:13:47,040 --> 03:13:50,220
other EU countries. So it could
appeal the bird radionic

3274
03:13:50,220 --> 03:13:53,100
trend since the start of the war
in Ukraine, there has been a

3275
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:56,130
loss of German influence in
Europe. That's because of a

3276
03:13:56,130 --> 03:13:59,640
whole host of German strategies.
And in particular Germany's

3277
03:13:59,640 --> 03:14:02,640
dependence on Russian gas which
is brought some form of

3278
03:14:02,640 --> 03:14:03,210
discredit.

3279
03:14:03,539 --> 03:14:06,569
Adam Curry: Okay, I love this
good clip. Here's what I think

3280
03:14:06,569 --> 03:14:08,729
is happening. I know you have a
second one. So I'll just give

3281
03:14:08,729 --> 03:14:15,209
you my unsolicited feedback.
Germany got screwed. They've

3282
03:14:15,209 --> 03:14:20,519
been they've been screwed over
by being hypnotized into

3283
03:14:20,519 --> 03:14:24,329
believing was a good idea to get
rid of their nuclear get rid of

3284
03:14:24,359 --> 03:14:28,559
all their money. They were the
powerhouse of Europe that when

3285
03:14:28,559 --> 03:14:32,309
they say they were Germany, if
Germany sneezes, the rest of

3286
03:14:32,309 --> 03:14:35,969
Europe gets gets the flu. And
that's no longer the case. So

3287
03:14:35,969 --> 03:14:38,729
they got completely Psyops and
getting rid of all of that they

3288
03:14:38,729 --> 03:14:43,289
have no industry then we we blew
up the pipeline so they have no

3289
03:14:43,289 --> 03:14:46,109
gas, they have nothing, nothing
to do and now they're going to

3290
03:14:46,109 --> 03:14:49,889
become part of the Belt and Road
scenario for China. And they

3291
03:14:49,889 --> 03:14:54,059
will become the adversary in
Europe. How's that sound?

3292
03:14:55,050 --> 03:14:57,330
John C Dvorak: Hi, Bob. Right on
right.

3293
03:14:57,330 --> 03:14:59,580
Adam Curry: Oh man, right. Oh,
nailed right on

3294
03:14:59,730 --> 03:15:01,950
John C Dvorak: Oh, Are out the
baby.

3295
03:15:03,389 --> 03:15:07,079
Unknown: Part two case in point.
On the same day as Germany's

3296
03:15:07,079 --> 03:15:11,369
announcement, the EU published
an economic security plan. It

3297
03:15:11,369 --> 03:15:15,239
seeks to convince the bloc's 27
states to agree stronger control

3298
03:15:15,239 --> 03:15:19,199
on exports. It's particularly
focused on technologies that

3299
03:15:19,199 --> 03:15:23,909
could be put to military use by
rivals like China. Well,

3300
03:15:24,839 --> 03:15:27,689
I think we're seeing a power
struggle as the EU pledges to

3301
03:15:27,689 --> 03:15:31,049
harden its relationship with
China, which is also hoped for

3302
03:15:31,049 --> 03:15:33,989
by the US Canada hope we're
determined to have the Europeans

3303
03:15:33,989 --> 03:15:36,989
on their side in the strategic
confrontation against China.

3304
03:15:37,199 --> 03:15:43,019
Adam Curry: Wow. That's me. You
know what? Even though it's late

3305
03:15:43,019 --> 03:15:49,859
in the day, I think I think that
deserves it. out of left field,

3306
03:15:50,400 --> 03:15:53,970
John C Dvorak: yep. This is a
big deal. The Belton

3307
03:15:53,970 --> 03:15:56,010
Adam Curry: road China that and
they're going to have the

3308
03:15:56,010 --> 03:15:59,940
shipping come right up onto the
Oh, man.

3309
03:16:01,350 --> 03:16:05,430
John C Dvorak: Wow. As the
cracking of debt in the EU damn

3310
03:16:05,430 --> 03:16:05,940
right. No,

3311
03:16:05,970 --> 03:16:09,870
Adam Curry: no, but they won't
know what to do. They won't know

3312
03:16:09,870 --> 03:16:14,790
what to do. I wonder if they
even see it stupid morons.

3313
03:16:15,539 --> 03:16:17,909
John C Dvorak: Well, Jeremy's
got to do some but their power

3314
03:16:17,909 --> 03:16:18,509
issues.

3315
03:16:19,260 --> 03:16:25,920
Adam Curry: Well, they Yeah. I
don't know what to do. Fire up

3316
03:16:25,920 --> 03:16:26,880
the ovens, boys.

3317
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:30,330
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Please,

3318
03:16:30,359 --> 03:16:34,049
Adam Curry: I'm called called
for it totally uncalled for. I

3319
03:16:34,049 --> 03:16:40,049
don't know how to get us out of
here. Coming up next, on your no

3320
03:16:40,049 --> 03:16:43,379
agenda stream or in your modern
podcast app. If you're using it.

3321
03:16:43,409 --> 03:16:50,459
I we've got our big dumb mouth.
It's show 1111 All right. End of

3322
03:16:50,459 --> 03:16:55,739
show mixes, we've got DS laughs
we've got some Jesse coy Nelson.

3323
03:16:55,769 --> 03:17:01,469
And by request you Allison with
the scam song, which is a fan

3324
03:17:01,469 --> 03:17:05,039
favorite. We all like that a
lot. We look forward to seeing

3325
03:17:05,039 --> 03:17:09,449
you again on Sunday. That'll be
just before the Fourth of July.

3326
03:17:09,449 --> 03:17:10,679
It'll be the second of July.

3327
03:17:10,860 --> 03:17:12,450
John C Dvorak: This will be a
fourth of July. We're working on

3328
03:17:12,450 --> 03:17:14,340
the Fourth of July four day
weekend today.

3329
03:17:15,870 --> 03:17:18,660
Adam Curry: We're gonna get work
and working again. Coming to you

3330
03:17:18,660 --> 03:17:21,060
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region

3331
03:17:21,060 --> 03:17:22,740
number six in the morning
everybody

3332
03:17:22,740 --> 03:17:25,080
John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry.
Dan from Northern Silicon

3333
03:17:25,080 --> 03:17:27,540
Valley. I'm John Cena before we
return

3334
03:17:27,570 --> 03:17:29,850
Adam Curry: on the four day
weekend that we're working

3335
03:17:29,880 --> 03:17:35,430
remember us at the boruch.org/na
Until then adios mofos Hui Hui

3336
03:17:43,980 --> 03:17:49,020
Unknown: you know that's that's
just patently absurd. It's so

3337
03:17:49,020 --> 03:17:56,040
absurd. It's insulting. It is.
This might be a hot thing to say

3338
03:17:56,250 --> 03:17:59,700
all of the money you w just see
who's on the team. They

3339
03:17:59,700 --> 03:18:03,660
incentivize is never allowed
realize, better measure for your

3340
03:18:03,660 --> 03:18:07,380
well should be your health
doctors praised by the public as

3341
03:18:07,380 --> 03:18:12,060
an expert class. Once Aspen
solution is trashed all praise

3342
03:18:12,060 --> 03:18:15,540
to like a person hitting a mask
for him not to question the

3343
03:18:15,540 --> 03:18:19,170
science consensus like Neil
deGrasse What about the Delta

3344
03:18:19,170 --> 03:18:24,930
kingdom? On the high wire let
the lefties every RFK Rogen and

3345
03:18:25,410 --> 03:18:29,100
a new tape put up millions for
charity to get hotels to debate.

3346
03:18:29,670 --> 03:18:34,740
He turned it down. Write a paper
now I'm straight Nah, you're a

3347
03:18:34,740 --> 03:18:39,180
clown. No agenda producers where
we get our news more boots on

3348
03:18:39,180 --> 03:18:43,920
the ground with great reviews,
Show Notes surgeons and media

3349
03:18:43,980 --> 03:18:48,240
section approved that connection
is your best protection and see

3350
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:52,650
you in Toronto meet up at the
Saudis just come on out and

3351
03:18:52,650 --> 03:18:55,530
don't That's why you've all
heard robbery in the Bible

3352
03:18:55,530 --> 03:18:59,820
updated by a lizard people learn
that Oh wait, no wait yourself.

3353
03:18:59,850 --> 03:19:03,660
Wow. It's really tapped into
form. It does turn into screen

3354
03:19:04,800 --> 03:19:08,370
more than ever. And so the kids
to the men the spectrum is

3355
03:19:08,370 --> 03:19:13,080
expanding one decade 30 years
ago one in 34 and it's pretty

3356
03:19:13,080 --> 03:19:17,130
mad. They don't really want to
know RFA will be fact checked by

3357
03:19:17,130 --> 03:19:18,420
the fact check this show

3358
03:19:30,720 --> 03:19:35,190
John C Dvorak: is a scam this
thing is a scam this whole

3359
03:19:35,190 --> 03:19:42,960
thing. Twice as a scam. This
thing is a scam but he's in on

3360
03:19:42,960 --> 03:19:44,220
this team. This whole thing

3361
03:19:44,280 --> 03:19:46,680
Adam Curry: death and
destruction. Life is a scam.

3362
03:19:47,340 --> 03:19:48,600
John C Dvorak: This thing is a
scam.

3363
03:19:48,660 --> 03:19:54,840
Unknown: This whole thing is a
scam. Scam scam

3364
03:19:55,109 --> 03:19:57,509
John C Dvorak: is a scam Ma'am
Ma'am Ma'am, ma'am.

3365
03:19:59,490 --> 03:20:03,150
Unknown: Justin Imagine using
the same mean image endlessly

3366
03:20:03,210 --> 03:20:08,130
for days and weeks and months
and even years.

3367
03:20:16,680 --> 03:20:23,190
The O S T, M E M D s, post,
memes, memes, memes

3368
03:20:25,650 --> 03:20:28,830
but to understand why we use the
word, you have to go back to

3369
03:20:28,830 --> 03:20:35,010
1976 When Richard Dawkins wrote
this book, The Selfish Gene,

3370
03:20:35,910 --> 03:20:40,320
the meme is a unit of cultural
inheritance. It's anything

3371
03:20:40,320 --> 03:20:43,380
that's copied anything that's
imitated anything spreads around

3372
03:20:43,650 --> 03:20:44,610
like a virus.

3373
03:20:45,570 --> 03:20:48,390
Adam Curry: I'm surprised that
people took my criticism of

3374
03:20:48,390 --> 03:20:51,960
memes so seriously, like, I
don't care you do whatever you

3375
03:20:51,960 --> 03:20:52,680
want. I'm just

3376
03:20:52,680 --> 03:20:55,410
Unknown: saying. You notice that
most memes really

3377
03:20:55,410 --> 03:20:57,660
Adam Curry: stink Yeah, and
people you know, they're proud

3378
03:20:57,660 --> 03:21:02,220
of having 10,000 meme lousy
memes

3379
03:21:03,420 --> 03:21:05,610
John C Dvorak: either one or two
good ones. They have like one

3380
03:21:05,610 --> 03:21:08,220
after another after reading meme
they Oh, there's a meme. Let me

3381
03:21:08,220 --> 03:21:08,760
post it

3382
03:21:13,050 --> 03:21:15,870
Unknown: I was like an appliance
salesman. I hated my life. I was

3383
03:21:15,870 --> 03:21:19,830
super sad. I was on Facebook all
the time making dumb means so

3384
03:21:19,830 --> 03:21:22,680
then I just got fed up after
like, my band broke down. My

3385
03:21:22,680 --> 03:21:26,490
girlfriend broke up with me. I
was lonely. And I just sold all

3386
03:21:26,490 --> 03:21:29,880
of my stuff for like $300 and
flew out to LA I literally

3387
03:21:29,880 --> 03:21:34,110
survived off of me money like
this whole like the like, fuck

3388
03:21:34,110 --> 03:21:36,870
is he gonna get a job where he
can look at memes all day.

3389
03:21:46,140 --> 03:21:52,350
borak.org/in A. Thanks, guys.
Have a great weekend.

