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John C Dvorak: Banana melons,
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Thursday, August
17 2023. This Year Award winning

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give our nation media
assassination episode 1582. This

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is no agenda. Guaranteed lawful
but awful and broadcasting live

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from 20 miles south of Austin
ONEOK in St. Joe's Spain in the

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morning everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where the sun is

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shining and maybe we're gonna
get a summer I'm John Cena boy.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Very weird
everything sounds awful. Maybe

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it's my ears. I don't know.
Sounds weird,

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John C Dvorak: but you've been
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Adam Curry: I had a lobster soup
with with

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John C Dvorak: Reiser one. Well,
I

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Adam Curry: mean, this is what
you eat here in in Catalonia.

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John C Dvorak: Catalonia he
traveled horror stories.

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Adam Curry: I do have a I do
have some some boots on the

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ground information that we we
left Amsterdam on when was it?

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Tuesday? Monday. Can you
remember? Tuesday I guess and we

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flew with the lovely viewing
airlines. Wii U L I N G this is

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kind of like the Spirit Airlines
of Europe LNG fueling Wii U L. I

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N G view LNG. I think any
anybody in Europe is probably

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cringing when they hear that,

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John C Dvorak: baby. I mean, it
was a crazy name. veulent

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know.
It must be a sub brand of

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something. But the seats are
almost standing. Remember that

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crazy? Yeah, I

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John C Dvorak: remember. That's
kind of what it feels like. The

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whole idea put everybody's
standards right.

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Adam Curry: And if the whole
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held together with gaffer tape,
and baling wire, but okay, we

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made it it's nice, you know, the
European Union, no passports

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needed, man the airport in
Barcelona, because that's how I

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have to pronounce it, John
Barcelona.

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John C Dvorak: That's not how
you pronounce it in Barcelona.

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That is exactly

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Adam Curry: how they all
pronounced they all say blue

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letter from Barcelona

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John C Dvorak: and who made a
big stink about that.

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Adam Curry: They don't say
Barcelona, they say Barcelona.

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John C Dvorak: they can maybe
say by to talk a little bit

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like, instead

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Adam Curry: Jason Calacanis is
Barcelona. So the last time I

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was here was I think 2002. And a
lot has changed, including the

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airport. This airport is huge.
They've added on a whole new

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terminal is phenomenal how
modern and big it is. And we're

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in stitches, which is about 20
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Barcelona. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: a lot of big, big
trade shows there. So I guess

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they need that big airport. Oh,
for sure.

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Adam Curry: And speeches is what
they call the guest the the

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little Ibiza Ibiza. There's
another one? You can't say

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Ibiza, which is how you spell it
but a differ. Lisa? Friend of

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mine here has been sick for a
while. And so that was actually

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the the genesis of this entire
trip was to come and see him and

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so we kind of put it all into
our vacation. Yeah. Well, he I

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grew up with him because my next
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some observations, first of all,
Barcelona is kind of like the

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Austin of Texas and Catalonia
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they tried to secede from from
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Was it 20? No 2017. Remember
that and they were beating the

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panel logos, or beating the
people over the head who wanted

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to go vote in the referendum.
There's still some, some, some

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PTSD here about that. But that
is the that's kind of the the

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comparison people make is
Catalonia is like Texas, and

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Barcelona is kind of like
Austin. And man, I learned a

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lot. We had a tour guide who
took us around the Sagrada

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Familia, which is the Antoni
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John C Dvorak: I'm sure you've
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the church. Yeah, I've been in
there. Nice. You haven't been in

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the church. It'll be done. It'll
be done in 100 years. No,

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Adam Curry: that's what they
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They said I have another 90
years it will be done but and

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there was no inside. Now the
inside is almost completed.

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John C Dvorak: When I was the
inside was half done. When

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Adam Curry: was that? Because I
was here in 2003. You couldn't

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even go inside?

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John C Dvorak: It was about the
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Adam Curry: Okay. Yeah, that's
right. That's when they started

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in 2010. They started building
on the inside. You

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John C Dvorak: go inside and
roam around. You see a bunch of

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people watching other people do
nothing. No,

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Adam Curry: no, it's beautiful
now. It's really it was very

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aggressive, but does aggressive

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John C Dvorak: then it's just an
impressive assurance but it's

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really the damnedest thing it

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Adam Curry: is. Well, when you
when you project it is yeah, it

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was a 250 year project. It's,
it's really that was really

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cool. Now, walking around with a
tour guide, I learned some

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important things. Mostly
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Matter is here as well. Not just
not just in the Netherlands with

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the black piece where the now
they have the slave Museum, and

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they've paid 100 million in
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Indonesia or something then now,
soon enough, Suriname wants

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reparations. But here, here
turns out those horrible

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horrible Catalonians were a part
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in the US with a textiles being
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which I did not know. And
they're taking down Christopher

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Columbus statues the guy was
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John C Dvorak: in Spain, they're
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Adam Curry: maniacs now but
that's what I'm saying. This is

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a worldwide so you don't hear
about that. But this this black

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lives matter and you know, the
trans stuff. It's, it's

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worldwide. It's not just
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woods. really quite amazing.

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John C Dvorak: And so you do it.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it's not
it's not good

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John C Dvorak: Marxist
revolutions aren't meant to be

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local mount.

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Adam Curry: There's a quote, you
could put that on a t shirt.

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Jhansi Dvorak Marx's revolutions
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then the only other thing that
that I think is show worthy was

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a lot that I think is show
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marginally entertained, I tried
to the i Quas. Remember, this is

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the the non combustible tobacco
product that is supposed to

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replace vaping eventually in the
United States, Will everybody is

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using them here? Oh, that's
interesting. And it and I and I

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said, Hey, man, can I can I have
a hit off of that I got to taste

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this. So it's like a, it's like
a big vape cartridge. And then

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there's a small, almost like
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diameter that goes into the
cartridge and a little bit of

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the filter sticks out. And guess
then it connects with the

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battery and, and it produces
vapor. But it's not vapor from

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the vape liquid that is getting
liquefied, which isn't including

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the glycerin or whatever is in
the vape. But it's actually

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heating up tobacco but not
burning it just heating it. So

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it doesn't produce smoke. It
produces a form of vapor. It

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tastes like total crap is
horrible. Now I'm a non smoker.

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Now I'm an ex smoker. But I know
what a what a smoke would taste

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like and it is nasty. Reminds

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John C Dvorak: me to get people
to stop smoking.

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Adam Curry: I don't think that's
the point. It's like, if you're

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not burning the tobacco, you're
just not getting the right

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you're not doing it right. It
just doesn't taste right at all.

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So anyway, we're here until
we're here tomorrow. And then

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Saturday, we fly off to Italy
and then I'll be your friend. Of

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course, I've had had some
lunches with him. And he's you

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know, you can't get around very
well. But yeah, he's he's

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hanging in go see Willow in
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come see us actually. She's
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a half away from them. So she's
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whole family. Yeah, absolutely.
And this is where you say, Well,

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that's nice.

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John C Dvorak: That's nice.

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Adam Curry: Meanwhile,
meanwhile, there's a lot of

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stuff happening in the world. A
lot of nutty stuff.

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John C Dvorak: Where do you want
to get your gun they indicted

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Trump again and just made a big
fuss of the same thing. This has

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been this has been fantastic.
It's like a rerun of the same

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stuff. Only this time they
really got it by the balls. The

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MSNBC stuff was off his goose is
cooked.

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Adam Curry: I love NPR. They
they had this. I don't know who

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this who was his nut job. I
can't remember who this lady is.

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But, you know, the question was,
is how does Trump compared to

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that other criminal in American
presidential history? Richard

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Nixon,

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Unknown: the Watergate scandal
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resignation in 1974. It set a
standard for presidential

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wrongdoing. But ex President
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criminality now appears set to
far exceed that standard. Should

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the four Indians currently
brought a president went out to

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resign. Our colleague Steve
Inskeep spoke earlier about all

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this with Jill wine banks. She
served as an assistant special

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press dictator in the Watergate
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Adam Curry: so so this is
someone who would know because

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she was she's so old she was an
assistant prosecutor in the

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Watergate investigation.

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Unknown: I want to ask a
question that I think you have

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been asked 47,000 times before.
But I think it is a reasonable

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place to start. How do the
accusations against Trump and

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trying to overturn an election
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There's no comparison in my
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Trump leading up to January 6,
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me are much more dangerous to
democracy than anything Richard

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Nixon did. Richard Nixon was
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should have been indicted, he
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But what he did is child's play
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believe, harden enabled what
happened. But I never feared for

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democracy the way I do now.
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remember what it what are these
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Adam Curry: afraid of xi? I've
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democracy the way I do. Now.
This is quite interesting. They

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John C Dvorak: all say the same
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the threat to democracy. I

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Unknown: never feared for
democracy the way I do now. Why

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John C Dvorak: number of
worrying. Now this guy's got 91

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indictments against various
sources. Why is she more afraid

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now than ever before? Because
she's more afraid now than she

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was before Trump was indicted.
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an old battle ax ish even be on
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Unknown: was that Nixon did
aides and associates of Nixon

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conducted a burglary of the
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headquarters in Washington, DC
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led to a lot of other political
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Nixon at some level except wait.

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John C Dvorak: That lead to what
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Adam Curry: I don't know you
were you were paying attention

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then? Not me. Yeah, and

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John C Dvorak: I don't remember
any other other dirty tricks.

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Was that Watergate thing broken?
It's everything's door was shut

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on dirty tricks. The dirty
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Adam Curry: I don't know. I have
no idea. No, they're

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John C Dvorak: just making this
stuff up. Did Nick's is getting

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weaker by the minute listening
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Unknown: at some level, except
that democratic system he needed

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to listen to the will of the
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He did. He knew Shane. Well, the

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John C Dvorak: people was voting
in Donald Trump. And he was

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Unknown: told that he would be
convicted in the Senate and the

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charges of impeachment that had
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And he resigned. Is that how it
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John C Dvorak: Well, what
happened was they had the goods

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on him because the whole thing
was, as you remember, if you

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read the baker book, Russ
Baker's book, family, where they

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outline the fact that this this
whole thing was a CIA scheme to

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get rid of Nixon. And so the
plumbers, the guys who did

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Watergate were all CIA
operatives, and they purposely

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did it in a sloppy slipshod way
to get caught. That's what the

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book says, Oh, he has the
research to back it up. I know

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what they're saying is wrong.
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fact, probably denied in the
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was guilty because he says it's
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clear that he had lost the
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Adam Curry: is weird that she
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the will of the people, at least
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increasingly more towards bring
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John C Dvorak: election. would
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is that they set this up so
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Adam Curry: Who were they
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John C Dvorak: Woolsey, maybe?

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Adam Curry: I'll have to check
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John C Dvorak: It's almost I
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bipartisanship. It was a time of
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have plenty of evidence against
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Adam Curry: So this is just
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Adam Curry: It was NPR Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: go, GA updates
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Georgia court. This is anti DSOs
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released this afternoon proposes
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date. And today's Molina wise
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County Courthouse. And she joins
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arraignment and booking are
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there is still an August 25.
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for all 19 of these defendants
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Fulton County Sheriff's Office.
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proposed date for arraignment
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the DA just filed that motion to
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proposed a march 4 trial date.
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screen here exactly what this
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the DEA filed if we could just
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reasoning for this for requested
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hearings and trials that Trump
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proposes certain deadlines that
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courts already scheduled
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very special day. So it is Super
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former President Trump
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candidate in the GOP primary
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case you missed it a quick
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court the case to move to be
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that he does have protection
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official at the time that these
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Adam Curry: Okay, let's just
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looked at the Georgia
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that they desperately want to
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desperately want to do this the
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anyone fooled by this is anyone
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John C Dvorak: entire Democrat
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PBS people, MSNBC and CNN.
They're all fooled by it. And if

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anybody thinks they're
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Adam Curry: That's, that's
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incredible. And truly true to
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John C Dvorak: It's It's crazy,
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of the CIA during Nixon was, was
Helms. When was the counter at

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the counter intelligence
superstar. That was a spook at

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the time then Bran thinks he was
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Adam Curry: Well, so. So, okay.
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just people tromped out. That's
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for you know, luckily, we have a
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traumatize people with that. I
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John C Dvorak: the scope part
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Unknown: So Molina on a separate
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Adam Curry: you think this is
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people all in? Are they buying
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Unknown: There's emerging
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election case against Trump.
Special Counsel Jack Smith got

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very personal information about
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on acts formerly known as
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2020 election case there in the
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personal information. It was so
personal, that Twitter actually

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called it confidential
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personal Twitter account, as
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records. Also messages direct
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been sent that may have only
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information on locations of
users. And also any people who

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Trump blocked or follow during
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users on Twitter screw

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Adam Curry: NTD. They're just as
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Unknown: who liked or shared the
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knowing this was confident
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to block this war. did Jack
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judge even ruled that Trump was
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this data on him was being
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special counsel Jack Smith. Hold

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Adam Curry: on a second hold
that I don't like the way

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they're reporting that because I
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John C Dvorak: Okay. Well,
before we do that, I don't think

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the publisher put up with the
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everyone who's ever favorited or
liked a Trump post? Oh, who

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could have said in there?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I know.
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John C Dvorak: this is
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Adam Curry: that's par for the
course baby. Here. Listen to

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this. Actually, this is a report
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Unknown: play it. Twitter was
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Department for Trump tweet info.
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got a $350,000. Fine. But I'm
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of the so what the Justice
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but there could be information
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what circumstances they were
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location they were sent from.
Some other maybe statistics

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about their reach those kinds of
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the search warrant. Where is it?
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forced on them. So Twitter was
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who's going to be prohibited
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Justice Department from publicly
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Department had pursued this
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we will we will we are willing
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we do not we this violates our
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say we can't we can't say that
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not produce the information. As
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said, if they you took away that
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about the government requesting
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misunderstanding? This,

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this has come this is now public
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not complying with it. But this
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months ago when this demand was
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deadline for this to handle the
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department didn't agree to drop
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Adam Curry: Okay, so So now I'm
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John C Dvorak: report for one
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they're getting fined. If you
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blue overnight telling you
something unless you had a

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warrant and the warrant would
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Adam Curry: just terrible.
You're saying that's not true

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that they didn't get fined?

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John C Dvorak: I'm wondering
whether they did nobody else has

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reported on this this $350,000
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Adam Curry: So it's this is all
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John C Dvorak: for

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Adam Curry: for not complying
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John C Dvorak: that's not the
way they presented they said

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that they got fined for not
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Adam Curry: Okay, here's Time
Magazine Musk's ex fined

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$350,000 in secret Justice
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records for defying a judge's
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John C Dvorak: that's different
that's not the way these other

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guys reported. Right.

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Adam Curry: But the whole thing
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is I agree. I mean, and by the
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this Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Way to go
musk. Yeah, he was good. The

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whole the whole X, and I'm just
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Twitter is ruined. Twitter's
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And now this yaka Reno lady is
in there who was everything is

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good. Now, by the way, they're
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hunky dory as they get ready to
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John C Dvorak: Linda. Yeah,
Karina, newly appointed CEO of

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muscle which is where we go on
to this Can we

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Adam Curry: come back to Trump?
I just want to play this as an

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company is soon to be cashflow
positive who have been

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at the company eight weeks the
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at close to break even close to
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I've mentioned, and I mean,
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discipline before I arrived at
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John C Dvorak: She also said to
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she saying zipline Glock
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Adam Curry: discipline?

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John C Dvorak: Oh cost Yes.

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number of employees from around
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Boorstin joins us now to
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question is, Linda Yeah, Karina
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advertising background? Has she
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is it just too soon to say? I

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mean, look, we don't have data
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organization. But the fact that
she shared that they're close to

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break even does indicate process
progress. She also talked a lot

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advertisers. And what she laid
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going to use her words here
freedom of speech, not free

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reach lawful but not awful, this
idea that they want to enable

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really a free speech platform,
but also create an environment

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that is very safe for brands.
And that's clearly been a big

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priority for her Steve. So it
sounds like she's making

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progress and bringing more
brands back on the platform. But

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it's mostly to me fascinating to
see how it will fit into a much

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broader company with payments
with video calls and really

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going beyond just being a
platform for communication.

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Adam Curry: So I'm so the one
thing Yeah, Karina is doing well

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as she is creating new language,
although we've heard the lawful

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but awful, and now suddenly,
CNBC

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John C Dvorak: was that Darren
O'Neill's old phrase, no, no.

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Adam Curry: Now we got this. We
got this long. This was a

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government phrase, it you know,
like Trump is tweets are lawful

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but awful. But now she's
throwing in freedom of speech,

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but not out of reach. In other
words, you're going to get

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banned. You can post all you
want, you're in the Bozo filter.

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It was like post all you want no
one's freedom of speech, but not

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of reach.

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John C Dvorak: How do you start
when you're asking a question?

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How do you start with with the
phrase, I mean, look,

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Adam Curry: well, that's if
you're at CNBC. Very mean, look,

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they have a very high bar to
entry for their journalists.

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They're very, you got to be
really good. So I mean, look is

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a good way to start. Let's go
back to Trump. Here's the NBC

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report of the Georgia
indictment, a sweeping

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Unknown: set of charges
announced in the late night news

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conference by Fulton County
District Attorney Fani Willis,

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is

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Adam Curry: it funny or Fannie?
Because I think Fannie is

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funnier. funnier

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Unknown: is that it was Fannie.
I think it's Fannie indictment,

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Fannie or just against Donald
John Trump

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clearly alleges Mr. Trump and 18
others unlawfully conspired and

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a criminal enterprise to try and
overturn President Biden's

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narrow win in Georgia, rather

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than by abide by Georgia's legal
process for election challenges.

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The defendants engaged in a
criminal racketeering enterprise

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to overturn Georgia's
presidential election result

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cameras

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tracks nearly every step as the
indictment was brought to a

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judge and unsealed inside 13
charges for Mr. Trump, including

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pressuring public officials to
violate their oath, conspiracy

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to commit forgery and making
false statements. The indictment

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also alleges Trump allies
recruited individuals to convene

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and cast fake Electoral College
votes to disrupt and delay the

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Biden win.

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Adam Curry: This is this is the
one that bothers me. Because

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instead of saying an alternate
slate of electors, which what

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was that's what it was, which is
part of the that's part of the

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process. They just reported as
fake, fake electors, or am I am

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I Am I incorrect? You're totally
correct. And that's your that's

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NBC. They are they're either
they really don't know how our

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system works. I think a lot of
people don't know. They don't

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you know, people still probably
think oh, I'm but I vote and

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then my vote is what elects the
president? No, no, it's the the

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electoral college. And they so
they just and you can and I

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think every election since
ultimate slates of electors. I

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think it's always been that way.
But now they're just calling it

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fake. They just calling it fake.
That's not okay.

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Unknown: The DEA is using the
state's anti racketeering law,

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which is modeled on Rico
statutes to charge all 19

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defendants, including Trump
attorney Rudy Giuliani, who

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helped pioneer the use of Rico
laws to prosecute the mafia in

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New York. The Trump campaign,
blasting the indictment calling

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it the latest coordinated strike
by a biased prosecutor in an

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overwhelmingly Democrat
jurisdiction, something Willis

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strongly denies. I

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make decisions in this office
based on the facts and the law.

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The law is completely
nonpartisan. There you go.

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John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
couple of clips from NPR that

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are I call them they're so bad.
I call them hit pieces. Okay.

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Adam Curry: And then we got to
get off of this because now

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we're sounding like every
podcast in the world.

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John C Dvorak: But we still have
to cover it. I have three clips

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left and that'll be okay.
They're short. Well, this was

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not that short. But this is the
the reason is just to

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deconstruct the hit piece part
of it, which is the use of

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language, that slanted and here
We go with the NPR hit piece on

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Trump. With

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Unknown: each passing indictment
of former President Donald Trump

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up to four indictments now
Republicans appear largely

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unfazed. So what explains that
and what does it mean for the

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next phase of the Republican
presidential primary

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NPR senior political
correspondent and editor

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Domenica Montanaro is here to
discuss Good Morning America.

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Good morning, Lila. Okay. So we
should get across first that

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we're talking about Trump's grip
on the base of his party. Right.

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He's viewed far more negatively
overall

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Adam Curry: of the grip on the
base of his party.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Does that
little imagery there?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I heard it
right away.

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John C Dvorak: Grid Republicans
are a bunch of disks, that

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Unknown: we're talking about
Trump's grip on the base of this

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party. Right. He's viewed far
more negatively overall.

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Yeah, I mean, overall, he
remains highly unpopular, you

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know, and has had a rippling
effect, frankly, with

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independence. You know, Trump
has led his party, disappointing

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elections in a row. And he's
done very little to expand his

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base beyond that in the years
since winning the White House in

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2016. So it's pretty hard to see
his win again in 2024, without

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some help, potentially from a
third party, and that's why

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you're here, Democratic
strategist. Liars, really

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00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:17,430
ringing the alarm bells about
these potential third party

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efforts that have been cropping
up recently, especially because

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Trump and Biden are so unpopular
right now. Now,

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Trump is competing in the
Republican primary, and that's

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where he's seen far more
favorably.

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Yeah, I mean, with Republicans
is a totally different story.

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They're living in a completely
different universe than

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Democrats and independents. When
it comes to Trump. You know,

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about half of Republican voters
seem nearly locked in for him

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and seem to believe almost
everything that he tells them

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about what he claims are witch
hunts and double standards. And

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that includes his baseless
election claims. You know, we

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know that Joe Biden won in 2020,
fair and square, but a recent

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CNN poll showed that seven in
10, Republicans do not believe

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that 56% of those Republicans
who said that they believe Biden

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last said that they base those
views on get this solid evidence

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of which there's not right. You
know, it really just shows how

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hyper partisan our political
environments become in the

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results of Trump and other
Republicans, relentless

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campaigns against expertise and
definitive sources. to undermine

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this, you can really make people
believe almost anything. Wow,

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Adam Curry: this is such a case
of like, just being yourself.

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You can make people believe
almost anything. That's exactly

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what are you doing NPR? Wow,
that's pretty good.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it really?

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Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, my
goodness. Did

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John C Dvorak: they don't let up
with part two.

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Unknown: Now since the GA
indictment came out on Monday.

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Are you seeing new efforts by
Trump to reinforce this sense of

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grievance with his followers
reasons?

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Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's
been proven repeatedly in

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recounts audits, dozens of court
cases that there were no

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widespread fraud, that would
have changed anyways. And yet

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Trump will be added again Monday
in what he's calling a news

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conference from his golf course
in New Jersey. He says he's

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going to present evidence of
fraud that will vindicate him.

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But this is really an old page
from the Trump playbook. He's

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done this over and over again
since he lost in 2020. And all

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of the conspiracies he's put
forward have been disproven. In

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fact, Georgia Republican
Governor Brian Kemp swatted

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these claims aside yesterday, he
said again, that the state's

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elections are secure and fair,
and that no one has proved

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anything under oath in a court
of law, and that there was no

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00:33:22,350 --> 00:33:26,100
substantive fraud can really is
an interesting figure, his

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Republican who rebuffed Trump
and then Cruz to re election in

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a swing state, but not many
other Republicans or any of

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Trump's current primary
opponents, you know, we've

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really chosen or been able to
follow that model. Right.

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And that brings us to the first
Republican presidential debate

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set for Wednesday of next week.
First of all, we don't even know

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if Trump will participate. But
either way his presence will be

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looming there.

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Oh, definitely. I mean, we know
that the other campaigns have

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had Trump at the center of their
debate prep to some candidates

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who have been lagging want to
make Trump answer for these

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indictments. I'm thinking of
former New Jersey Governor Chris

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Christie, and former Arkansas
Governor ASA, Hutchinson and

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others. But you know, the
thinking and Trump voters, why

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bother when he's so far ahead in
the polls, if there was a time

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to make a move, you know, you
might think it would start next

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week in a primetime debate,
we're gonna see because we're

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less than five months away from
the Iowa caucuses now.

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John C Dvorak: Just the last
thing on the debates is my last

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clip and we can

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Adam Curry: I just want to I
just want to I want to respond

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to this for a moment. What
they're succeeding at here is

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making it so that no one cares
about issues anymore. Not Magga

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America is just mad at a a two
tier justice system. That's what

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they're achieving. And I'm
pretty sure that's on purpose.

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Let's get everyone all crazy.
Let's start some more January 6

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00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:54,150
type stuff. Yeah, so we can call
everybody a terrorist and lock

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them up. is very bad.

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John C Dvorak: This is the we
should tell you about your

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threat to democracy. See how we
should not even be playing these

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Adam Curry: these jokesters?
It's so bad? Well, you know,

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00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:06,060
while we're gonna do it anyway,
we

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John C Dvorak: can't ignore it
let's go into is the Trump

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conundrum in Georgia who Okay,
Trump conundrum,

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Unknown: the Georgia prosecutor
spearheading a racketeering and

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conspiracy case against former
President Donald Trump.

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Adam Curry: This is great,
though I love the RICO charts.

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It the whole thing is so crazy,
that they even say, from what I

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understand, and what I've read,
that none of these charges by

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themselves are crimes, but when
you put them all together,

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that's racketeering.

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John C Dvorak: Well, even more
complicated, is that if you they

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have a litany of crimes like to
say that I think is 40 over so

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not even crimes that but they
even said these crimes, but but

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if but if you put two and it's
only two of them. All you have

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to prove is that to any two of
them put together is a

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racketeering charge.

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Adam Curry: That's the Georgia
that's the special Georgia law

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they have. Yeah, I

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John C Dvorak: think is well, I
think that's all racketeering

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laws, you only have to prove to
to have the laundry list.

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Adam Curry: So which ones are
they going to try it and prove?

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John C Dvorak: Well, I think one
was he was picking his nose in

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public. No.

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Adam Curry: That is that is
pretty offensive.

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Unknown: The Georgia prosecutor
spearheading a racketeering and

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00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:22,020
conspiracy case against former
President Donald Trump and 18 of

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his associates, is proposing the
defendants be arraigned the week

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of September 5. Fulton County
District Attorney Fani Willis

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has also officially requested
that a judge set the trial date

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for March 4 2024. That's just a
days before the state holds a

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Republican presidential primary
indictments in Georgia and

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Washington DC are related to
Trump's alleged attempt to

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00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,140
subvert the will of the people
and overturn the results of the

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2020 election. Trump also faces
charges involving his handling

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00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:53,310
of classified documents, hush
money payments and was found

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00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:56,610
liable on civil charges of
sexual assault. Trump has

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disputed all of the accusations
as politically motivated. Trump

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was indicted yet again this
week. It has not made a

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difference with many or most
Republican voters to this point,

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it seems but NPR is a medical
launch and airports. Republican

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candidates are grappling with
how to handle Trump at their

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first debate next week. Whether
he shows up or not. Trump

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is refusing to sign a pledge to
support whomever the Republican

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nominee is after the GOP
primaries. And that's one of the

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00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,750
requirements of getting on the
debate stage for the Republican

672
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Party's first debate next week
in Milwaukee that throws into

673
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:31,200
limbo whether or not the party's
front runner for the nomination

674
00:37:31,230 --> 00:37:32,640
will even be there. So

675
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,530
Adam Curry: what's the word on
the street? Is Trump going to

676
00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,240
the debates? Oh, he's

677
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,510
John C Dvorak: not good. No,
he's not going to sign that

678
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:44,190
document. Pledge. Yeah, the
pledge. Pledge. I did screw

679
00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:46,740
those pledges you're supposed to
sign so who's

680
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:47,730
Adam Curry: airing the debate?

681
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,700
John C Dvorak: Fox Yeah, I

682
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,570
Adam Curry: predicted ratings
bonanza. Watch Trump do some

683
00:37:57,570 --> 00:38:01,830
alternative things somewhere, do
a speech. counterprogramming?

684
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:02,220
Like

685
00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:04,740
John C Dvorak: I think there may
be some readies Bonanza if I'm

686
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,200
going to play one more clip.
This is the Vivec clip. Have you

687
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,980
seen this?

688
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:10,710
Adam Curry: I don't know which
one it is. I've seen some vets

689
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:11,520
watch why.

690
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:14,310
John C Dvorak: Watch it. Watch a
swami what's the guy running for

691
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:14,880
president

692
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:17,430
Adam Curry: runs all around the
news Rama Swami.

693
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:19,500
John C Dvorak: Rama Rama

694
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,460
Adam Curry: Rama Swamy guy. You
don't? You don't like this guy?

695
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,830
John C Dvorak: I don't like this
guy because I think he's a

696
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:30,150
phony. But let's go with this.
vecto Here's where he does his

697
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:31,440
rap. Republican

698
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,350
Unknown: presidential candidate
Vivek Ramaswamy was wrapping up

699
00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:37,770
an onstage interview at the Iowa
State Fair last weekend when he

700
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:41,190
got his one shot one opportunity
opens

701
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:45,990
his mouth but the words won't go
in everybody's go canal

702
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:54,120
Swami performed m&ms classic
song lose yourself. No video of

703
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,660
his performance was not lost,
but was watched around 8 million

704
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:01,530
times on X formerly known as
Twitter for a longshot candidate

705
00:39:01,530 --> 00:39:04,710
like Ramaswamy. That was
essential. You're

706
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,140
not just competing with your
other candidates. You're

707
00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:09,510
competing with everything.
That's that grobman

708
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:12,570
He was the campaign manager for
Andrew Yang's 2020 presidential

709
00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:16,140
run a run that was powered by
viral moments where he's

710
00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:19,920
been weeks planning one of his
early trips to South Carolina

711
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,160
and he had a bunch of big crowds
and was doing really well. That

712
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,250
got essentially no coverage.
What got coverage was him jazzer

713
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:29,040
sizing and ended up doing the
cupid shuffle with a number of

714
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,850
older ladies.

715
00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:32,910
But he says for those moments to
actually work. They have to be

716
00:39:32,910 --> 00:39:33,570
authentic

717
00:39:33,660 --> 00:39:36,870
when politicians try to be cool
or try to do something that's

718
00:39:36,930 --> 00:39:40,410
authentic to them. But it's
popular online, usually bombs

719
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:40,650
which

720
00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:43,920
can be online big in the wrong
way. So groundsman, gave his

721
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,680
candidates, some timeless
advice, be yourself

722
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:49,800
and have some fun out there. And
then what you do as a staff is

723
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,410
you build around that and have
the cameras going at all times

724
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:53,460
and you lean into it,

725
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,820
although you should put a lot of
planning into that improvised

726
00:39:56,850 --> 00:39:57,930
moment. If

727
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,510
the candidates message is one
thing and they can't identity as

728
00:40:00,510 --> 00:40:03,960
a human is another thing. You
can be in trouble, right? Like,

729
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,520
even if it's an authentic viral
moment,

730
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,030
there's also no guarantee.
Grohmann says that those moments

731
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:11,280
will translate into votes.
There's

732
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,030
a big difference between doing
well on Twitter and getting

733
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:16,110
people actually show up with a

734
00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:19,410
ballot. They make Ramaswamy
continues to be a longshot

735
00:40:19,410 --> 00:40:22,350
candidate, but sometimes losing
yourself is a good way to be the

736
00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:23,490
center of conversation.

737
00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:27,150
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's good
to head on backwards. He's

738
00:40:27,150 --> 00:40:28,110
pumping his fist.

739
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,600
Adam Curry: No, no. It's not
true. Yeah, it reminds me of

740
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:40,020
this. The dean, the Dean's
scream, like the same. Newt

741
00:40:40,050 --> 00:40:43,770
Gingrich actually had a pretty
good take on what's going on

742
00:40:43,770 --> 00:40:46,290
right now. And Fox News allowed
him to say,

743
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,550
Unknown: I think we are drifting
towards the greatest

744
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:57,300
constitutional crisis since the
1850s. And the rise of secession

745
00:40:57,630 --> 00:41:02,070
and the Civil War. I don't mean
that as hyperbole. If you read

746
00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:06,390
any McCarthy's remarkable book,
ball of collusion, which came

747
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:12,870
out in 2019, he makes very clear
that it is Barack Obama, who

748
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:17,160
corrupts the Justice Department.
It is Hillary Clinton, who

749
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,030
routinely breaks the law and
gets away with it. And now we

750
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:24,270
have Joe Biden, who's learned,
he's learned from Obama, that

751
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:27,900
doesn't matter what you do, if
you're a liberal Democrat, you

752
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:31,200
will not be prosecuted. He
learned from Hillary, that a

753
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,520
person in high public office can
get millions and millions of

754
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:41,040
dollars. And they learned from
watching Donald Trump, that a

755
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,170
true outsider willing to take on
the entire system could destroy

756
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,920
their entire machine. So what
you're seeing across the

757
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,440
country, is a desperate last
ditch effort by a corrupt

758
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,540
machine to destroy their most
dangerous opponent in a way,

759
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:04,740
which not only breaks the
Constitution destroys the rule

760
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:09,330
of law, and establishes a moment
of bitterness, which I think

761
00:42:09,330 --> 00:42:12,690
will last for a generation or
more. I think this is going to

762
00:42:12,690 --> 00:42:17,430
be a horrendous period. And we
just need to understand the

763
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:21,600
people who want to control
America and dictate to the rest

764
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,910
of us will break any law lie
about any topic and manipulate

765
00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:30,330
the system any way they can. And
that includes a lot of the elite

766
00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:31,050
news media.

767
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:34,650
Adam Curry: I think that's
right. I'm not I'm no Newt

768
00:42:34,650 --> 00:42:38,730
Gingrich fan, but he nails it on
with short, short breath, by the

769
00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:43,710
way that what are they doing to
the newt? Who's doing too well?

770
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:43,950
No

771
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,200
John C Dvorak: noise? I have no
idea. Yeah, he's right.

772
00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:50,490
Adam Curry: I think that nails
it. So meanwhile, while all of

773
00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:53,670
this is going on, they're
sneaking in there sneaking in.

774
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:56,910
We got to get everybody ready.
We've got to have me I think we

775
00:42:56,910 --> 00:42:59,760
need mailing ballots again that
that would be really good. So

776
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:05,130
let's start sneaking it back in.
Here we go. Here we go. CBS us

777
00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:05,250
is

778
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:07,950
Unknown: seeing an increase in
COVID cases. Nobody wants to

779
00:43:07,950 --> 00:43:11,820
hear that. hospitalization rates
are up more than 12% in the most

780
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:16,200
recent weeks surveyed by the
CDC. And in a sign of what could

781
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,380
be ahead COVID has been found
and a rising number of

782
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:23,310
wastewater samples. The virus is
usually detected in wastewater

783
00:43:23,310 --> 00:43:27,180
up to a week before people start
actually testing positive. CBS

784
00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:30,030
News Medical contributor That's
Dr. Celine gounder is with us.

785
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:33,030
She's editor at large for public
health at K FF Good

786
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:36,870
morning to you, Dr. Celine.
We're going enough already. We

787
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:41,160
are so ready to move on. It's
been a long time since I've even

788
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,130
really even thought about COVID.
But why are the cases going up?

789
00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:44,250
And

790
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:46,470
Adam Curry: where What do you
mean, you heard you just just

791
00:43:46,830 --> 00:43:49,710
three days ago talking about a
gale?

792
00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:51,450
Unknown: Well, it's a
combination of people letting

793
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:53,910
down their guard, I think a lot
of people think, Oh, we were in

794
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:57,060
this bunker during the pandemic,
it's gonna go away. And

795
00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:00,930
unfortunately, it is still
there. So just because you think

796
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:03,450
you're done with COVID doesn't
mean that virus is not still

797
00:44:03,450 --> 00:44:07,260
circulating, letting our guard
down how well we're not masking

798
00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:12,060
as much for example. And so on
the plane, I'm asking, where

799
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:15,030
should we should wait, well, if
you're in a crowded and more

800
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:18,240
public space, you might want to
in certain situations,

801
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,020
particularly as we go into the
fall, winter season, and where

802
00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:26,130
we're seeing it go up the most
right now is in the Midwest. Oh,

803
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:26,550
yes,

804
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:29,100
Adam Curry: of course. You know,
the red states. You know,

805
00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:32,970
they're all gonna die from
COVID. John, do masks work

806
00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:36,660
against COVID. I forgot. I'm
pretty sure we looked at this.

807
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:42,480
Oh, no. What are you doing? Are
you walking the dog? What do you

808
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,390
do? Come back, come back to the
microphone. I've got more of Dr.

809
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:45,840
Celine.

810
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,000
Unknown: Now these
hospitalizations are increasing.

811
00:44:48,510 --> 00:44:50,130
How severe are these cases?

812
00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:54,750
They are, on average, not more
severe. Right now, if you look

813
00:44:54,750 --> 00:45:00,330
at sort of ICU admissions,
they're pretty stable. Okay. But

814
00:45:00,330 --> 00:45:04,140
where we have seen an increase
in ICU hospitalizations, it's

815
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:07,620
really in parts of the country
where we have long standing

816
00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:10,860
health disparities. The people
who are ending up in the

817
00:45:10,860 --> 00:45:14,190
hospital or in the ER, there are
two particular age groups you

818
00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:18,510
have infants zero to one who we
know are very under vaccinated

819
00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:23,070
less than 5% of those are back
under vaccinated, vaccinated,

820
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:26,670
and then people over 75 Even if
you have previously been

821
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:30,420
vaccinated, that group really is
at higher risk and needs to be

822
00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:31,110
boosted. All

823
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:33,870
Adam Curry: right, we need to
boosting Alright, let's talk

824
00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:36,600
about the booster. Here's what
well why don't we got it? Let's

825
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,040
talk about that. Come on, girl.
Give me a booster.

826
00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:40,890
Unknown: There's also a new
variant Eris, what can you tell

827
00:45:40,890 --> 00:45:44,010
us about that? And then do we
have a booster that will have to

828
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:46,170
help protect us against Eris?

829
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:50,700
New variants? I don't think
anybody should be getting really

830
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,460
too worried about Eris. And in
general, just because you hear

831
00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:55,920
about a new variant doesn't mean
this is something to panic

832
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,610
about. Okay.

833
00:45:58,410 --> 00:46:00,240
Adam Curry: Well, that's good to
hear. Oh, John, we don't have to

834
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,550
panic about it, just because we
have a name,

835
00:46:02,580 --> 00:46:04,920
Unknown: which and this is what
viruses do they mutate, you're

836
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,150
gonna have new variants emerge.
It is very closely related to x

837
00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:12,450
BB, which is the variant, the
most recent variant, the

838
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:15,510
vaccines that are coming out
this fall are fine tuned for.

839
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:16,860
John,

840
00:46:16,890 --> 00:46:20,940
Adam Curry: stop, okay, stop.
You have to stop doing too many

841
00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:23,790
sound effects, out of control,
BV

842
00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:25,860
Unknown: and will provide good
protection against air and the

843
00:46:25,860 --> 00:46:26,460
vaccines

844
00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:29,040
in the boosters are still
crucial and key, aren't they?

845
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:29,940
Well,

846
00:46:29,970 --> 00:46:33,360
especially if you're in one of
those high risk groups, so

847
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,570
people over 75, especially with
the elderly, in general,

848
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,920
pregnant women, people who are
immunocompromised within nursing

849
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,310
homes. What about the kids? A
lot of kids haven't even gotten

850
00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:47,700
their first round of
vaccinations. Oh, infants really

851
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:50,040
need to get their first round
and protect them ahead of the

852
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,320
fallen. You've been saying that
since the beginning. And that

853
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,270
message has not changed. Thank
you. No,

854
00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,790
Adam Curry: yes. Thank you.
Well, I wasn't really convinced

855
00:46:56,790 --> 00:47:01,890
by CBS. I was like CBS okay,
there's God's I'm sure Pfizer is

856
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:06,030
Pfizer is advertising. So it's
those who said tell your kid you

857
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:08,010
gotta get a booster. You gotta
get this. You know, if you're

858
00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:13,740
old, you kill the babies. But on
CNBC, they're all back in again.

859
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:18,660
Here's our boy, former FDA
commissioner now on the board of

860
00:47:18,690 --> 00:47:24,270
Pfizer and other fine bio bio
companies. Dr. Scott Gottlieb.

861
00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:29,460
John C Dvorak: Why do they keep
putting this guy on because he

862
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:33,450
Adam Curry: is because they pay
to have him put on? Okay,

863
00:47:33,450 --> 00:47:34,140
John C Dvorak: nevermind, the

864
00:47:34,140 --> 00:47:35,880
Unknown: new strain of COVID
making its way around the

865
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,100
country and the World Health
Organization has now called it a

866
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,680
variant of interest, meaning
they're monitoring it for

867
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,780
mutations that could make it
more severe. Joining us right

868
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:45,900
now, CNBC contributor, former
FDA commissioner, Dr. Scott

869
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:48,330
Gottlieb, he serves on the
boards of Pfizer and Illumina.

870
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:51,600
What's going on doctor I keep we
keep hearing we actually have

871
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,790
had a bunch of guests cancel
recently, because they got

872
00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:55,050
COVID. What's happening here?

873
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:00,600
Adam Curry: That was in the
script. You know, we've had some

874
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,930
guests cancel because they got
COVID. Come on,

875
00:48:04,110 --> 00:48:06,180
Unknown: but there's definitely
a summer wave happening right

876
00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:10,170
now. It's mostly this single
variant is Aris variants eg

877
00:48:10,170 --> 00:48:13,050
five, it has a new mutation in
it that gives us some immune

878
00:48:13,050 --> 00:48:16,410
escape over the prior omachron
variants. Other countries have

879
00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:19,590
experienced waves of infections
with this same variant and it

880
00:48:19,590 --> 00:48:22,950
hasn't caused increased
hospitalizations or morbidity. I

881
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:25,410
mean, we have seen an uptick in
hospitalizations, particularly

882
00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:28,440
among those 70. And over so
those who are immunocompromised

883
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,110
or older individuals, but
nothing significant. And if you

884
00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:32,940
look at the overall
hospitalization rate right now,

885
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,940
in the US, it's significantly
below where it was last time

886
00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:39,660
last year, when we had a
significant Omicron surge late

887
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,990
in the summer. So while this is
concerning seeing cases go up,

888
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:45,300
there's certainly people who are
vulnerable to this infection

889
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,330
continue to be vulnerable.
There's nothing to suggest that

890
00:48:48,330 --> 00:48:50,910
this particular strain that's
circling the United States right

891
00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:53,820
now is more pathogenic than the
prior variants. And so people

892
00:48:53,820 --> 00:48:56,250
who were vaccinated, the prior
variants, who've had the

893
00:48:56,250 --> 00:49:00,030
infection before her should have
some residual immunity against

894
00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:02,700
this, the thing we're looking at
right now is the wastewater data

895
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,700
from a company called Bio box,
you can actually find it online.

896
00:49:06,270 --> 00:49:08,910
Because the hospitalization data
isn't reliable. Neither is the

897
00:49:08,910 --> 00:49:11,520
data on testing. It's not
getting reported by a lot of

898
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,710
states and most people who are
testing and testing at home. So

899
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:16,380
we were looking at the
wastewater data. And the parts

900
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:18,660
of the country with infections
are going up the most right now

901
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:21,270
in the Midwest and parts of the
south. So that's where we're

902
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:23,460
seeing the surges of infection
dummies. Do

903
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,150
Adam Curry: you see the
messaging? The messaging is and

904
00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:31,530
exactly exactly what we
discussed? In the past three

905
00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:36,180
years, wastewater, they're going
to tell you where the dummies

906
00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:39,630
are, thank you, the idiots who
aren't vaccinated or whatever,

907
00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:44,400
under vaccinated. It's all going
to be red states. And it's all

908
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,180
based on the wastewater. And he
said, Well, you can look it up.

909
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:51,240
You can look it up on bio bar.
You can look it up online. Well

910
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,820
guess what we did? Hi.

911
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:56,790
Unknown: My name is Nisha
Gailey, and I'm the co founder

912
00:49:56,790 --> 00:50:01,380
and president of bio bot
analytics biochar we're building

913
00:50:01,410 --> 00:50:05,100
a global human health database.
The first of its kind by

914
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:10,290
analyzing sewage. That sounds
great. This is based on a simple

915
00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:13,590
system called wastewater
epidemiology. Everybody pees

916
00:50:13,590 --> 00:50:16,890
every day. And we know that
urine contains a rich source of

917
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:20,040
information on our health and
well being. Our doctors look at

918
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,130
it all the time. And everyday,
we're flushing this data down

919
00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:26,790
the toilet where it's
aggregating in public sewers. At

920
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:29,790
bio bot, we're building
technology to extract and

921
00:50:29,790 --> 00:50:32,820
analyze this information. And
it's a much more elegant process

922
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:36,930
than this. Our work is based on
research that was developed here

923
00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:40,890
at MIT and led by my co founder
Mariano Matos, and I, and this

924
00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:41,730
is how it works.

925
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,830
Adam Curry: First of all, this
sounds like an Elizabeth Holmes

926
00:50:43,830 --> 00:50:48,360
scam. dynadot just she's got an
Indian co founder. I'm here at

927
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,440
MIT. Oh, yeah, we and then I
think this should be illegal.

928
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:56,550
She has no right to build a
database off of everybody's PII,

929
00:50:57,060 --> 00:51:01,650
the Global Health database,
which she's now going to use to

930
00:51:01,650 --> 00:51:05,730
geo locate. It will be geo
locating, it won't just be

931
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:11,820
COVID. Who's Who's using Coke?
Who's using weed? What apartment

932
00:51:11,820 --> 00:51:17,220
building? Is there more weed?
Who's using opioids? Let's find

933
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:18,030
out how it works.

934
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:20,970
Unknown: We start by mapping the
wastewater network in a city.

935
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:24,720
This is Cambridge,
Massachusetts. We layer land use

936
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:28,410
data and census data overtop of
the network map. In order to

937
00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:31,530
understand if we're collecting a
sample from a given manhole,

938
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,200
exactly what the upstream
catchment is, what the

939
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,270
demographics of that
neighborhood are, don't be

940
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:39,990
looking at my manhole. We then
deploy our hardware units in

941
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:42,930
these manholes where they hang
just above water level pumping

942
00:51:42,930 --> 00:51:46,410
sewage through a series of
cartridges. The devices are then

943
00:51:46,410 --> 00:51:49,350
removed and the cartridges are
shipped back to our labs, where

944
00:51:49,350 --> 00:51:52,440
we measure the concentration of
viruses, bacteria and small

945
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,460
molecules that are all excreted
in urine. Now the applications

946
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:59,490
are endless, we can begin to
look at infectious disease

947
00:51:59,490 --> 00:52:02,460
outbreaks and monitor that all
the way through to understanding

948
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:04,980
the consumption of
pharmaceutical products. So in

949
00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:08,010
order to start we had to pick a
very specific and targeted

950
00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:11,490
application. And we decided to
focus on the biggest public

951
00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:14,850
health emergency in the United
States today, the opioid

952
00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:15,960
epidemic and

953
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Adam Curry: there we go. Isn't
that interesting? While

954
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,580
Unknown: this crisis continues,
the best data that we have today

955
00:52:23,610 --> 00:52:28,260
is counting overdoses. This data
is extremely delayed reactive,

956
00:52:28,290 --> 00:52:32,010
and it represents less than 1%
of people who suffer from opioid

957
00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:37,530
use disorder. We provide cities
with neighborhood level data

958
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:40,200
Adam Curry: online saying I
hadn't heard that before. Opioid

959
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,130
overuse disorder. It's called
addiction.

960
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,740
John C Dvorak: This data is
extremely good stop, we got to

961
00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:51,810
stop. So they're going to
isolate you all you have to do

962
00:52:51,810 --> 00:52:55,620
is walk down the street. You
don't need to be in the manhole.

963
00:52:56,490 --> 00:52:59,490
Manhole, the Chelsea who's using
they're doing it out in the

964
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,240
open.

965
00:53:00,450 --> 00:53:03,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I think
she's talking about people in

966
00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:08,550
buildings. And they're doing it
in manholes, which means you can

967
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:13,020
geo locate down to the building.
And the next step is going to be

968
00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,230
in the building. And then it's
going to be on each floor. This

969
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:19,170
is a very dangerous development.

970
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,350
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm going
to stop with it. If you're

971
00:53:22,350 --> 00:53:27,540
thinking I'm actually gonna back
you off to your original point.

972
00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:33,030
This sounds a lot like an
Elizabeth Holmes deal. There's

973
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:36,360
something for hinky about this
I'd like to talk to some people

974
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,350
buy how granular you can really
get because the amount of sample

975
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:43,770
they're taking as again like
Elizabeth Holmes seems the

976
00:53:43,770 --> 00:53:47,790
little low. They drop a sample
I'd have that thing a little

977
00:53:47,790 --> 00:53:52,080
package down a manhole up just
above the sewage and they grab

978
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:58,800
us a test tube full I mean, I'm
not I'm I'm very skeptical about

979
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,900
this working, I would be

980
00:54:02,070 --> 00:54:05,160
Adam Curry: on equal footing
with you on that. The reason why

981
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,610
it's interesting is that God
leap is all in on it. God leap

982
00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:11,940
is a dangerous guy. He's
dangerous.

983
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,590
John C Dvorak: He should have
been taken off the air years

984
00:54:13,590 --> 00:54:13,920
ago.

985
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,370
Unknown: While this crisis
continues. The best data that we

986
00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:20,850
have today is counting
overdoses. This data is

987
00:54:20,850 --> 00:54:25,050
extremely delayed reactive and
it represents less than 1% of

988
00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:28,260
people who suffer from opioid
use disorder, opioid use

989
00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:32,640
disorder. We provide cities with
neighborhood level data on drug

990
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,120
use and treatment that's updated
every single month. What's the

991
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,250
Adam Curry: treatment? I wonder
that they what data do they

992
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:43,260
deliver on treatment? Like hey,
send some crack pipes here. Hey,

993
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:44,550
we need more syringes.

994
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:48,120
Unknown: We measure about 30
different drugs that range from

995
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,300
heroin illicit opioids like
heroin and fentanyl, to

996
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:54,450
prescription opioids like
codeine and Tramadol, as well as

997
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:57,960
substitution therapies like
methadone and suboxone this

998
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,890
overall City View helps city if
officials understand where to

999
00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:05,400
deploy interventions, we can
tell them what priority drugs

1000
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,300
are so that they know what types
of interventions to deploy. And

1001
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,760
our trend data helps them
evaluate whether those

1002
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,340
interventions are actually
working. This,

1003
00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:18,570
Adam Curry: this should not be
illegal. And where, where do you

1004
00:55:18,570 --> 00:55:21,870
think they're starting this?
What state would be a good one

1005
00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:26,220
to start? Florida? No, I would,
that would be really good.

1006
00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:28,830
Unknown: Our first customer in
North Carolina was able to

1007
00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:33,480
decrease overdoses by 40%. By
leveraging our data and only six

1008
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,170
months go

1009
00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:38,400
Adam Curry: how? Oh, we got some
got some opioid use disorder.

1010
00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:44,400
John C Dvorak: I don't see it. I
don't either. But it's just

1011
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:49,350
this, I'm convinced that your
initial thoughts on this are

1012
00:55:49,350 --> 00:55:54,360
they're accurate ones. This is
bullcrap. How you can, if you if

1013
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,920
you dump a like a, like a cup of
bleach in your toilet, because

1014
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,830
you're LSE you're cleaning your
toilet. And you're are you using

1015
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:05,550
the liquid plumber, which is
introducing a bunch of young

1016
00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:09,900
sodium hydroxide or potassium
hydroxide into the system, or

1017
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:14,070
chlorine can be dumped in with
some, some bleach, this is this

1018
00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:17,940
contaminate this reacts with
anything that they're trying to

1019
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:21,240
do, especially the only taking
these little samples. This is

1020
00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:25,350
this is not, this is bull. It
may

1021
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:29,970
Adam Curry: be but they're going
to be using it. So yes, I'm with

1022
00:56:29,970 --> 00:56:34,140
you on that. But if she's got
godly been on this, that's a

1023
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:35,700
problem. I'm gonna finish this
godly

1024
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:40,020
John C Dvorak: maybe just
naively thinking that God, he's

1025
00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:42,450
any of this. He's anything but

1026
00:56:42,450 --> 00:56:45,240
Unknown: naive. We told them
that prescription opioids were

1027
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:48,210
what was most commonly used, and
therefore they focused all their

1028
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:52,200
resources and interventions on
that, in just a little over a

1029
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,110
year, we have grown from being
deployed in that one city to now

1030
00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:59,490
being launched across eight with
100% retention. And with that,

1031
00:56:59,610 --> 00:57:02,820
we're one step closer to
achieving our mission, which is

1032
00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:05,760
to transform wastewater
infrastructure around the world

1033
00:57:05,820 --> 00:57:07,530
into a public health
Observatory.

1034
00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:10,620
Adam Curry: This sounds creepy.
Let's go back to God Lee,

1035
00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:13,230
Unknown: Scott, we don't have
free testing anymore.

1036
00:57:13,410 --> 00:57:14,580
We don't have this free test
kits. So

1037
00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:16,350
you get in the mail. And so I'm
wondering if you think that you

1038
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:20,130
know, is a surge much greater
than than we know, and how do

1039
00:57:20,130 --> 00:57:21,660
you think this plays into,

1040
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,510
you know, when we go into the
colder months and COVID might

1041
00:57:24,510 --> 00:57:26,280
become more, more rampant?

1042
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:29,370
If we don't have those free
tests? Are we more apt to sort

1043
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:30,870
of do this for

1044
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:35,370
Adam Curry: free? Cash? No, no
tests? No. We're just going to

1045
00:57:35,370 --> 00:57:37,170
do wastewater testing.

1046
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:39,630
Unknown: This is if you look at
the wastewater data, this

1047
00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:43,500
infection right now, this new
variant is very prevalent last

1048
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:45,990
week was about 20% of all
infections in the US rising

1049
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:49,020
rapidly. I would suspect that
when we see the data at CDC,

1050
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:51,510
this Friday, it's going to be
about 50% of all infections that

1051
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:53,490
are happening in the country.
And that's always backward

1052
00:57:53,490 --> 00:57:56,130
looking. So it's probably more
than that. So this is quite

1053
00:57:56,130 --> 00:57:58,800
prevalent right now, around the
country, particularly in the

1054
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,050
Midwest, parts of the Midwest
right now, in terms of the

1055
00:58:01,050 --> 00:58:02,580
testing, there's gonna be more

1056
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:08,310
John C Dvorak: contradiction
there. Okay. He said that the

1057
00:58:08,310 --> 00:58:13,680
wastewater testing was forward
looking. Because the wastewater

1058
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,840
is these things will show up
before people even have

1059
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,040
symptoms. But now he's saying
it's backward looking. Can you

1060
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,000
make up his mind? Let's listen
again. Now this is him saying it

1061
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,730
was forward looking. He says the
wastewater will show this these

1062
00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:30,210
spikes and before people even
know they got the disease. Did

1063
00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:31,770
you say that now? The opposite

1064
00:58:31,770 --> 00:58:35,100
Adam Curry: you say that in the
first clip? Yeah. Let's go back

1065
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:36,000
and listen for a second

1066
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,980
Unknown: new strain of COVID.
making its way around the

1067
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:39,450
contracts cancel recently,
because they

1068
00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:42,630
got COVID is same variant and it
hasn't caused increased

1069
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:45,870
hospitalizations or morbidity. I
mean, we have seen up versus

1070
00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:49,020
those who are immunocompromised
or older individual year, when

1071
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:52,050
we had a significant Omicron
surge late in the summer

1072
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,050
horrible. There's nothing to
suggest that this particular

1073
00:58:55,050 --> 00:58:57,510
strain that's circling the
United States right now is more

1074
00:58:57,510 --> 00:59:00,060
pathogenic than the prior
variants. And so people who were

1075
00:59:00,060 --> 00:59:03,150
vaccinated prior variants who
have had the infection before

1076
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:06,510
should have some residual
immunity against this, the thing

1077
00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:09,150
we're looking at right now is
the wastewater data from a

1078
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:12,510
company called Bio box, you can
actually find it online. Because

1079
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:14,820
the hospitalization data isn't
reliable. And neither is the

1080
00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:17,430
data on testing. It's not
getting reported by a lot of

1081
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:19,620
states, and most people who are
testing and testing at home. So

1082
00:59:19,620 --> 00:59:22,320
we were looking at the
wastewater data, and the parts

1083
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,240
of the country where the
infections are going up the most

1084
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,940
right now in the Midwest and
parts of the south. So that's

1085
00:59:26,940 --> 00:59:28,530
where we're seeing the surges of
infection.

1086
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,210
Adam Curry: I didn't say
anything about forward looking

1087
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:33,870
there. Not sure he's

1088
00:59:33,870 --> 00:59:34,800
John C Dvorak: playing is

1089
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:37,050
Adam Curry: that was the end of
the first clip. I'm going now to

1090
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:39,360
though, going back maybe says it
here, Scott,

1091
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,850
Unknown: we don't have free
testing anymore. We don't have

1092
00:59:41,850 --> 00:59:43,770
this free test kits they get in
the mail. And so I'm wondering

1093
00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:46,770
if you think that you know, is
the surge much greater than than

1094
00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:49,770
we know, and how do you think
this plays into,

1095
00:59:50,190 --> 00:59:52,620
you know, when we go into the
colder months and COVID might

1096
00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:54,390
become more more rampant

1097
00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:57,450
if we don't have those free
tests? Are we more apt to sort

1098
00:59:57,450 --> 00:59:58,650
of to spread this

1099
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,990
Adam Curry: listen to her
leaving the witnessed this is so

1100
01:00:00,990 --> 01:00:02,610
obvious what's going on here.

1101
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,650
Unknown: This is if you look at
the wastewater data, this

1102
01:00:04,650 --> 01:00:08,190
infection right now, this new
variant is very prevalent it

1103
01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:11,010
last week was about 20% of all
infections in the US rising

1104
01:00:11,010 --> 01:00:14,040
rapidly. I would suspect that
when we see the data to CDC,

1105
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,530
this Friday, it's going to be
about 50% of all infections that

1106
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:18,510
are happening in the country.
And that's always backward

1107
01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:21,150
looking. So it's probably more
than that. So this is quite

1108
01:00:21,150 --> 01:00:23,820
prevalent right now, around the
country, particularly in the

1109
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:26,040
Midwest parts of the Midwest
right now, in terms of the

1110
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,770
testing, it's going to be more
difficult to get access to the

1111
01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:30,840
testing this winter, there's no
question about that this

1112
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,960
variance probably going to come
and go this fall, we're probably

1113
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,690
going to see a newer variant
emerge by the time we get into

1114
01:00:36,690 --> 01:00:40,110
the late fall in the winter. So
this particular strain, isn't

1115
01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:42,780
that worrisome in terms of its
pathogenicity relative to what

1116
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:45,180
we've seen before. We don't know
what's going to come next. But

1117
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:48,480
this is going to run its course,
probably by the end of September

1118
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,700
into October, this particular
variant, I think, will have

1119
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:51,810
moved around the country.

1120
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:57,390
Adam Curry: So this is the way I
see it. The plan is wastewater

1121
01:00:57,390 --> 01:01:00,210
testing a man we saw this
coming, John, we were laughing

1122
01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:03,450
about it, but we saw it coming
wastewater, especially with the

1123
01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:08,130
polio. Yes. And now they're
doing it with drugs. And they

1124
01:01:08,130 --> 01:01:10,860
didn't mention anything about
their COVID. And you know,

1125
01:01:10,890 --> 01:01:13,230
remember how great these COVID
tests were, we're not going to

1126
01:01:13,230 --> 01:01:15,420
give away these free tests
because they work so well.

1127
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,420
Anyway, we're not going to do
that. I've got a dozen of them.

1128
01:01:18,450 --> 01:01:20,790
You don't need any of those free
tests. We're just going to spend

1129
01:01:20,790 --> 01:01:23,850
all the money on this Elizabeth
Holmes character. And we're

1130
01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:28,020
going to lock down portions of
cities because you have high

1131
01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:32,220
COVID levels in your pee. I'm
telling you, this is the way

1132
01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:34,710
they're going and Gottlieb is
all in on it.

1133
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:37,200
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I
think you're also dropping the

1134
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,040
ball on another one of your
early assertions, which is this

1135
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,520
will lead to do this at the last
minute this will lead to mail in

1136
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,470
ballots. Yes, of course, because
the wastewater shows that

1137
01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:50,490
everyone's sick. Yeah,

1138
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,280
Adam Curry: you can't Oh, wait.
Hey, are you from this quadrant?

1139
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:59,250
John C Dvorak: You're in red
states. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Of

1140
01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:01,170
course. Yeah. Thanks. You

1141
01:02:01,170 --> 01:02:04,350
Adam Curry: are in quadrant five
you may not go to vote you will

1142
01:02:04,350 --> 01:02:06,630
have your mail in ballots
dropped off in front of your

1143
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:11,040
building. That's what's gonna
happen. Yeah.

1144
01:02:11,790 --> 01:02:14,460
John C Dvorak: What is that new
device? What is this you using?

1145
01:02:14,490 --> 01:02:14,640
I

1146
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,950
Adam Curry: don't know. It's
just something that don't have

1147
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:18,030
my megaphone with me.

1148
01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:21,720
John C Dvorak: This is better
than the megaphone. Really?

1149
01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:26,580
Adam Curry: You like this one?
Okay. The drone will be dropping

1150
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:29,250
off your mail in ballots in
front of your quadrant building.

1151
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,030
Do not worry Do not be alarmed
stay indoors. Stay indoors

1152
01:02:33,060 --> 01:02:36,690
John C Dvorak: megaphone has his
has his place. Yeah, but this is

1153
01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:38,250
different. This is creepier.

1154
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:44,580
Adam Curry: By the way, let's
just see, besides the vaccine of

1155
01:02:44,580 --> 01:02:50,010
n and b, what really worked.
ivermectin works for people

1156
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,830
hydroxychloroquine although I
never tried that, that seemed to

1157
01:02:52,830 --> 01:02:57,900
work for people. And monoclonal
antibodies that that is what I

1158
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:02,700
think Joe Rogan was say was
really what got him over his

1159
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:04,650
COVID and just a couple of days.

1160
01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:08,010
Unknown: But yeah, and it's
Paxil, Ovid, which is really the

1161
01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:10,740
only I mean, people are not
doing using any of the other

1162
01:03:10,740 --> 01:03:12,270
types of Oh,

1163
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:15,930
Adam Curry: listen, CNBC. People
really only using Paxil COVID

1164
01:03:16,170 --> 01:03:17,790
Let me Paxil was the only way to
go right

1165
01:03:17,790 --> 01:03:20,430
Unknown: Scott and is Paxil,
Ovid, which is really only I

1166
01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:22,110
mean, people are not mean, let
me let me show

1167
01:03:22,110 --> 01:03:24,480
Adam Curry: you my script. Packs
lovebirds. I mean, I mean,

1168
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,340
there's nothing there's nothing
else right doing

1169
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:29,460
Unknown: using any of the other
types of medications anymore.

1170
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,120
This is

1171
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,310
Adam Curry: that nerd from the
New York Times. Isn't that that

1172
01:03:32,310 --> 01:03:37,290
this guy, Sanger? No, no, no,
no, no, the one who wrote the

1173
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,370
Botha Galileo got

1174
01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:42,420
John C Dvorak: kicked off the I
got kicked out because he was so

1175
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:43,770
many conflicts of interest.

1176
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,390
Adam Curry: No, no, yeah, no,
this is this the founder can't.

1177
01:03:48,810 --> 01:03:51,990
What's his name? Yeah, I think
so. He didn't get kicked off

1178
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:53,490
anything. They love him.

1179
01:03:54,030 --> 01:03:55,590
John C Dvorak: I think no, I
don't think you weren't rich at

1180
01:03:55,590 --> 01:03:57,840
times anymore. Oh, that's
possible.

1181
01:03:57,900 --> 01:03:59,430
Adam Curry: That's possible, is

1182
01:03:59,430 --> 01:04:02,490
Unknown: that the only is that
the only real sort of firewall

1183
01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:04,890
for especially for older people
firewall,

1184
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:06,720
Adam Curry: oh, it's a firewall.
It's

1185
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,550
Unknown: the only drug that's
widely available right now.

1186
01:04:08,550 --> 01:04:11,190
Merck has a drug as well, that's
on the market. It's used a

1187
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:13,560
little less by physicians. I'm
on the board of Pfizer, as you

1188
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,140
know which markets packs elevate
the monoclonal antibodies aren't

1189
01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:19,170
available anymore. The companies
haven't continued to make new

1190
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:21,240
versions of monoclonal
antibodies to target the

1191
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,540
existing variants. Pfizer as
well as other companies have

1192
01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:26,970
second generation antivirals in
development. So I think we'll

1193
01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:30,600
see continued innovation in this
space. But right now pack slove

1194
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,930
is a highly effective drugs
properly used when for patients

1195
01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:36,690
who are properly indicated for
it really

1196
01:04:36,690 --> 01:04:39,540
Adam Curry: made people sick
find Pfizer product. Yeah. kill

1197
01:04:39,540 --> 01:04:43,740
people. Sorkin that's his name.
Sorkin Andrew Ross Sorkin

1198
01:04:43,740 --> 01:04:50,250
Sorkin, the boondocking Sorkin
reading the script anyway, NBC

1199
01:04:50,250 --> 01:04:53,310
didn't really get the they
didn't get any money. NBC didn't

1200
01:04:53,310 --> 01:04:57,180
getting my CBS got the money.
CNBC got the money but NBC Today

1201
01:04:57,180 --> 01:04:57,900
Show him no money. Do

1202
01:04:57,900 --> 01:05:00,990
Unknown: you think we'll soon be
at a point where or the medical

1203
01:05:00,990 --> 01:05:03,000
community decides, Okay, we're
going to stop calling this a

1204
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,850
booster. We're going to say this
is a COVID shot, like the flu

1205
01:05:05,850 --> 01:05:09,450
shot, and it will maybe be a
seasonal thing. Is there any

1206
01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:12,270
indication of COVID being
seasonal? I mean, why haven't we

1207
01:05:12,270 --> 01:05:15,930
transitioned from booster which
seems to imply one uptick and

1208
01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:18,900
you're done? Why haven't you
transitioned from that language

1209
01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:21,000
to more of like flu shot type
language?

1210
01:05:21,030 --> 01:05:23,550
You know, Ellison? I think the
short answer is this virus

1211
01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:25,890
continues to humble those who
try to make predictions. You

1212
01:05:25,890 --> 01:05:28,470
know, we all want this to be a
seasonal thing, just like the

1213
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:30,720
flu go away in the summer, come
back in the winter, you get your

1214
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,360
shot, you're good to go. But as
we've seen with this uptake, and

1215
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,030
we've seen in the previous
summers, this virus really it

1216
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:38,400
just humbles those who try to
play a crystal ball and predict

1217
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,190
things. So really, I do think
we're going to get to that

1218
01:05:41,190 --> 01:05:44,190
point. I don't think we're there
yet. Especially if you are high

1219
01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:47,850
risk, we are recommending more
frequent vaccines. I think a lot

1220
01:05:47,850 --> 01:05:50,130
of people are wondering do I
need to bring the mass back? And

1221
01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:53,040
I think the question is, you
know, really ask yourself is if

1222
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,410
you're high risk look just like
you do the weather. If it's

1223
01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:57,990
raining you grab an umbrella
look at the COVID cases give it

1224
01:05:57,990 --> 01:06:00,600
like an umbrella think of a mask
like an umbrella if there are a

1225
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,240
lot of cases out there grabbing
and grabbing a knife and then

1226
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,750
the five or 1095 You know it's
they still work yeah, that way

1227
01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:10,470
Adam Curry: you can identify
your fellow Democrats during the

1228
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:17,400
mail in ballot period. This is
it's so obvious to me. It's like

1229
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,300
they're setting everything up.
We have drones flying around

1230
01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:25,890
dropping off and and K 90 fives
but you know you can't No no,

1231
01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:29,400
no, no, no, you can't go out
stay in there. This building is

1232
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:38,370
no good in this city in these
red states when you know what,

1233
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,820
everyone will fall for it. You
will go right down that same

1234
01:06:41,820 --> 01:06:43,680
path it'll be exactly what

1235
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,050
John C Dvorak: have Joe Biden in
his President again.

1236
01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:50,820
Adam Curry: They have a term for
it here. I was talking to a

1237
01:06:50,820 --> 01:06:55,140
couple of people that that were
not really big on a lot of it

1238
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:58,680
just like Texas here as I said
and they the term they have as

1239
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,390
balco Nazis balca Nazis was
people who would if you were

1240
01:07:03,390 --> 01:07:06,030
walking on the street, they'd be
on their balcony yelling at you

1241
01:07:06,030 --> 01:07:08,190
to get off the street Dalkon
Nazis

1242
01:07:08,730 --> 01:07:11,580
John C Dvorak: to think it's
kind of good Elka Nazis. Belkin

1243
01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:12,540
balcony nods

1244
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,010
Adam Curry: balcony Nazi Yep.

1245
01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:17,850
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Balcony
talker. Nazis.

1246
01:07:18,540 --> 01:07:18,960
Adam Curry: Yeah.

1247
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,460
John C Dvorak: off the street.

1248
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,110
Adam Curry: Get off the street.
Yeah.

1249
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can see
it.

1250
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,210
Adam Curry: But maybe, maybe
there's a solution. You know,

1251
01:07:30,210 --> 01:07:36,690
when when all the residents when
the the legal residents are, are

1252
01:07:36,690 --> 01:07:41,490
locked in their homes, because
you know, have to pee water. The

1253
01:07:41,490 --> 01:07:44,250
wastewater shows that this you
know, you're all infected.

1254
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,760
You're all seething with
infection. You can't come out

1255
01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:50,580
and we can kill we can keep
everything working. They've

1256
01:07:50,580 --> 01:07:54,090
already figured that out too.
And, I mean, I know it's a grand

1257
01:07:54,090 --> 01:07:56,520
conspiracy theory, but but I
think they've got it set

1258
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,960
especially in New York. Tonight.

1259
01:07:57,990 --> 01:08:00,960
Unknown: A new battle is brewing
over how New York City's

1260
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,260
handling the record breaking
influx of migrants Mayor Eric

1261
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:07,140
Adams pushing back after the
state's governor Kathy Hall

1262
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:10,620
calls fellow Democrat accused
him of not doing enough

1263
01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:13,830
if her observation is that
here's some things that you can

1264
01:08:13,830 --> 01:08:18,000
do differently. We're all in one
thing. No one is stating that we

1265
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:24,780
didn't do the house 100,000
people unlike any of the city,

1266
01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:25,140
it

1267
01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:28,020
comes after a lawyer for the
governor today sent a scathing

1268
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:32,070
letter saying the city faces a
serious crisis and has failed to

1269
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:35,070
accept the state's offer of
assistance and should do more to

1270
01:08:35,070 --> 01:08:39,240
act in a proactive manner. The
mayor opening to new shelters

1271
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,540
and he's repeatedly slammed the
federal government for not doing

1272
01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:46,320
enough to help the city. Today
we spoke with Carla from Ecuador

1273
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,440
with her four year old daughter
outside the iconic Roosevelt

1274
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:52,080
Hotel in Manhattan, which has
been turned into a migrant

1275
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,520
housing facility. They keep us
in operation opportunity. She

1276
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,180
says many of us just want to
work across the country. Other

1277
01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:03,660
major cities are also struggling
with the influx in Massachusetts

1278
01:09:03,660 --> 01:09:07,260
governor just declared a state
of emergency it's unsustainable

1279
01:09:07,410 --> 01:09:11,280
in New York since last year,
more than 100,000 asylum seekers

1280
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,580
have arrived more than 58,000
are now in shelters and

1281
01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:17,220
officials estimate the housing
and caring for migrants will

1282
01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:22,470
cost city taxpayers $12 billion
by 2025. However, may your items

1283
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:25,500
argues a major step to solve
this crisis would be allowing

1284
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:26,730
migrants to get work

1285
01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:33,539
Adam Curry: permits. There you
go. There you go.

1286
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,880
John C Dvorak: That's
interesting that I have a very

1287
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,920
similar report, but I don't
think it's from the same source.

1288
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,370
I think this may be n di D. This
is New York State versus New

1289
01:09:41,370 --> 01:09:42,750
York City one.

1290
01:09:44,250 --> 01:09:46,770
Unknown: New York Governor Kathy
Hinkle says the illegal

1291
01:09:46,770 --> 01:09:50,820
immigrant crisis in Manhattan is
the city's own fault. In

1292
01:09:50,820 --> 01:09:54,600
response to Mayor Adams requests
for recent requests for more

1293
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,140
help and to these Arlene
Richards reports. In

1294
01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:01,590
a 12 page Letter Tuesday new
York Governor Kathy huncle

1295
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:05,790
blamed Mayor Eric Adams lack of
coordination for New York City's

1296
01:10:05,820 --> 01:10:09,660
illegal immigrant crisis. The
letter responds to the city's

1297
01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:12,870
requests last week for help in
managing the crisis.

1298
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,500
The state can support us by
taking reasonable actions to

1299
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:21,420
ease the burden of our city. We
need a state wide decompression

1300
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:25,920
strategy to help free up space
in our shelter system and reduce

1301
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,360
the pressure when our city's
resources. The state recently

1302
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,650
announced humanitary relief
centers that they will reimburse

1303
01:10:34,650 --> 01:10:37,890
us for but we need more
decompression

1304
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:40,260
Adam Curry: strategy. That's
interesting.

1305
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Crazy. is
part two,

1306
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,570
Unknown: the New York Times
reports that Adams had written a

1307
01:10:48,570 --> 01:10:51,900
letter to the state in response
to a Manhattan Supreme Court

1308
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:55,920
order. The court's order comes
in response to a claim filed by

1309
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,850
the Legal Aid Society asking the
court to enforce a years old

1310
01:10:59,850 --> 01:11:04,110
decree. The decree requires the
city to provide a bed to anyone

1311
01:11:04,110 --> 01:11:08,250
who asks for it. Adams letter
laid out numerous requests,

1312
01:11:08,460 --> 01:11:11,730
including asking the state to
cover two thirds of the cost of

1313
01:11:11,730 --> 01:11:15,240
shelter in the absence of
meaningful federal funding and

1314
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,960
asking for a statewide
relocation program to resettle

1315
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,020
groups of new arrivals
throughout the state's counties.

1316
01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:25,860
The governor's reply criticizes
the city for failing to accept

1317
01:11:25,890 --> 01:11:28,890
numerous state offers of
assistance over the last year.

1318
01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:32,760
For example, She says the State
offered more than a dozen state

1319
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,150
owned sites that could provide
temporary shelter to more than

1320
01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:40,260
3000 migrants. But the city did
not accept the offer the letter

1321
01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:44,820
states Mayor Adams office had no
immediate comment on the state's

1322
01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:48,450
letter. But huncle herself has
been criticized by the mayor and

1323
01:11:48,450 --> 01:11:52,350
community organizations for not
taking a more proactive approach

1324
01:11:52,350 --> 01:11:55,620
to ease the city's burdens
without help from the state and

1325
01:11:55,620 --> 01:11:58,860
federal governments. Adams fears
the worst. We

1326
01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:03,060
don't get the support we need
new yorkers could be left for a

1327
01:12:03,060 --> 01:12:04,980
$12 billion

1328
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,540
bill. Arlene Richards NTD news.

1329
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:12,870
John C Dvorak: Did you hear that
in there that there's a state

1330
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:16,620
law that says if you go to New
York and you have demand divided

1331
01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:20,400
they have to give you one I
didn't know that was that's

1332
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,230
detour should take advantage of
this.

1333
01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:25,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, and you get to
stay in the Roosevelt Hotel

1334
01:12:25,980 --> 01:12:30,360
where tourists used to stay,
which is a real real craphole

1335
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,070
the Roosevelt Hotel Oh ma'am
that is the worst and JR imagine

1336
01:12:35,070 --> 01:12:41,280
that filled with with families
who are just in distress. I'm

1337
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,760
telling you, it is such a
perfect setup. Because you know

1338
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:49,170
when not only while most New
Yorkers are at home because the

1339
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:55,260
wastewater says so. awaiting
their their N nine and 95 masks

1340
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:59,430
to wear while screaming out over
there'll be in bulk Nazis. Then

1341
01:12:59,430 --> 01:13:04,770
the illegal immigrants, asylum
seekers, they will be working to

1342
01:13:04,770 --> 01:13:08,760
keep the city going. And when
you work, you know what I mean?

1343
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:14,880
Come on. It's only fair they get
to vote. This is so obvious.

1344
01:13:17,610 --> 01:13:19,110
John C Dvorak: But you know
what's coming after that?

1345
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,040
Especially in the spur of the
moment Internet voting.

1346
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:26,700
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, you've
been talking about that forever.

1347
01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:32,400
Internet voting. Yeah. How is
San Francisco doing? Have you

1348
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,690
been into the city recently?

1349
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:36,030
John C Dvorak: Well, let's play
a couple of clips.

1350
01:13:36,270 --> 01:13:38,760
Adam Curry: Can I start you off
with something from the BBC just

1351
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,090
to make sure that we're on the
up and up here. Sure.

1352
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:45,330
Unknown: San Francisco that
liberal enterprising city in the

1353
01:13:45,330 --> 01:13:48,480
union's wealthiest state is
struggling more than most,

1354
01:13:48,660 --> 01:13:52,110
despite numerous attempts to
crack down on drugs. The city is

1355
01:13:52,110 --> 01:13:54,960
already on course this year to
beat its drug death record from

1356
01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:00,390
2020 When 712 people died. The
violence, crime and homelessness

1357
01:14:00,390 --> 01:14:03,270
that comes with the problem has
made parts of downtown San

1358
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:07,230
Francisco, so treacherous. But
now hundreds of federal workers

1359
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:10,500
at the department for health and
human services have been advised

1360
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,740
by their bosses to work from
home, rather than risk the

1361
01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:17,400
commute at the building. A memo
said quote, in light of the

1362
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,160
conditions at the federal
building, we recommend employees

1363
01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:23,280
maximize the use of telework for
the foreseeable future.

1364
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,640
Adam Curry: Does that line up
with what you're seeing? It's so

1365
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,390
dangerous

1366
01:14:27,390 --> 01:14:29,310
John C Dvorak: that building by
the way, which is called the

1367
01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:33,120
Nancy Pelosi building, though,
that's the Pelosi federal

1368
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,090
building. I know where that
building is, is not in the worst

1369
01:14:36,090 --> 01:14:38,130
part of town, that's for sure.
But there's still a lot of

1370
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:39,930
homeless around there. And
there's still a bunch of

1371
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:43,320
encampments. And when you go if
you have to go there. And I

1372
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,740
haven't been there for a while
but I went a few years ago. I

1373
01:14:46,740 --> 01:14:50,190
would always take bringing an
extra couple of dollars and find

1374
01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:52,200
some guy and tell him to guard
my car.

1375
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:58,350
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, it makes
sense. Yeah. And they do it.

1376
01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:00,120
Yeah, really. You can trust Um

1377
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,180
John C Dvorak: Well I don't know
if you can trust all of them but

1378
01:15:03,180 --> 01:15:06,840
there was I run into you can
Okay, now you have your hands it

1379
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,020
says like I'm going there all
the time. I'm sure some guys I

1380
01:15:10,020 --> 01:15:12,720
mean, I think the way you could
deal with it so here's your

1381
01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:16,680
here's a couple of dollars and
here's four quarters, put him in

1382
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,570
the meter if the meter starts
running out,

1383
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,650
Adam Curry: may I may I, may I
play a description from this BBC

1384
01:15:22,650 --> 01:15:25,710
reporter about the areas since
you've now eloquently told us is

1385
01:15:25,710 --> 01:15:26,730
not even the worst

1386
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:31,230
Unknown: is not the worst time
in days. Who is West Coast

1387
01:15:31,230 --> 01:15:33,750
financial editor for The
Financial Times, um, you know,

1388
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:36,300
this area of downtime quite
well. What's it like describe it

1389
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:36,720
for us?

1390
01:15:36,810 --> 01:15:40,950
I actually walked through the
area you're talking about this

1391
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:45,480
morning that it's a block on
seventh and mission downtown in

1392
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:48,450
the soma district where this
federal building is where

1393
01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:52,230
they've asked people not to come
to the office. And it's bad. I

1394
01:15:52,230 --> 01:15:56,100
mean, a lot of the downtown
area, particularly this block,

1395
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:59,370
and other areas like the
tenderloin, it's just completely

1396
01:15:59,370 --> 01:16:04,320
unremarkable now to see people
crowds of people kind of using

1397
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,490
drugs very openly, or
unconscious from the effects of

1398
01:16:08,490 --> 01:16:12,930
drugs on the pavements, and it's
just quite unpleasant and it's

1399
01:16:12,930 --> 01:16:15,840
really just very, very visible
and

1400
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,470
tabby. When you walk down that
part of town, what are you

1401
01:16:19,470 --> 01:16:22,440
looking at? Are you looking at
drug deals happening? Are there

1402
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:25,020
people on the floor? I mean,
what can you actually see?

1403
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:26,520
John C Dvorak: Anything?

1404
01:16:28,170 --> 01:16:31,260
Adam Curry: Her name is precious
to tabby. Hey, Tabby, what did

1405
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:32,790
you see? Do you see people on
the floor?

1406
01:16:34,230 --> 01:16:36,930
Unknown: Yeah, I mean, there's
this morning there were rows of

1407
01:16:36,930 --> 01:16:40,440
tents which actually is is quite
unusual for San Francisco

1408
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:41,400
because recently

1409
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,290
Adam Curry: with this you say
unusual. Yeah, unusual Tabby

1410
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,960
John C Dvorak: Tabby Rosa tents
everywhere.

1411
01:16:48,990 --> 01:16:50,820
Adam Curry: Doesn't make sense,
tabby? Yeah, it's

1412
01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:53,010
Unknown: I mean, there's this
morning there were rows of

1413
01:16:53,010 --> 01:16:56,520
tents, which actually is, is
quite unusual for San Francisco

1414
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,950
because recently the government
the local government has been

1415
01:16:58,950 --> 01:17:02,310
very good at clearing out in
camp tenting Hammonds kind of as

1416
01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:03,180
quickly as possible.

1417
01:17:05,310 --> 01:17:07,110
Adam Curry: Toby, clearly
walking in a different part of

1418
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:07,500
town

1419
01:17:07,530 --> 01:17:10,560
Unknown: rows of tents, groups
of people kind of clustered on

1420
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,130
the floor in various states of
consciousness. Now.

1421
01:17:16,260 --> 01:17:19,200
John C Dvorak: What happened
was, she saw the Rosa chants

1422
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,490
because they're everywhere. But
she was under the impression

1423
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,330
that's right. Because of the new
they cleared all these out. And

1424
01:17:27,330 --> 01:17:32,310
so she she, she took it at face
value to make the commentary

1425
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:36,930
that oh, this is unusual when
it's not unusual. I have a shit

1426
01:17:36,930 --> 01:17:39,330
Java reporting is what we're
dealing with here.

1427
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,280
Adam Curry: Hey, it's the BBC,
who do you think you're talking

1428
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,700
about here? I have a feeling
that tabby. You're right, Tabby

1429
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:48,660
probably hasn't been on foot
through this area. And quite

1430
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:51,450
honestly, I'm not so sure she
was on foot when she did this.

1431
01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:54,840
I'm sure she was in an Uber
drive by a drive bys

1432
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:57,810
Unknown: is quite unusual for
San Francisco because recently

1433
01:17:57,810 --> 01:17:59,880
the government, the local
government has been very good at

1434
01:18:00,090 --> 01:18:04,500
clearing out and kind of as
quickly as possible. But rows of

1435
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:08,190
tents, groups of people kind of
clustered on the floor in

1436
01:18:08,190 --> 01:18:14,400
various states of consciousness.
drug paraphernalia, foil pipes,

1437
01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:17,640
kind of just very visible, it's
everywhere. And you know,

1438
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,520
there's, there's rubbish
everywhere, human extra rubbish

1439
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,730
place doesn't smell very nice.
But I mean, it's almost ironic,

1440
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,000
oh, she cracked the window,
because at this federal building

1441
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:30,180
has asked some staff not to come
to work because part of the

1442
01:18:30,180 --> 01:18:34,830
reason the homelessness and the
drug use is so bad in that part

1443
01:18:34,830 --> 01:18:39,180
of town is because there has
been a big emptying out of

1444
01:18:39,210 --> 01:18:42,840
workers since the pandemic, lots
of tech work, workers haven't

1445
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,860
come back. Companies have really
embraced remote working. So you

1446
01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:50,910
have this kind of ironic like
self fulfilling prophecy where

1447
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:55,590
the area's quiet, it becomes
more overrun with drug uses.

1448
01:18:55,890 --> 01:18:58,530
People don't want to go to it
and it just kind of the cycle

1449
01:18:58,530 --> 01:18:59,640
repeats itself, but they

1450
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,390
Adam Curry: should do that.

1451
01:19:00,690 --> 01:19:02,070
John C Dvorak: Okay, hold on a
second. Let

1452
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:04,410
Adam Curry: me say they should
do that wastewater testing

1453
01:19:04,410 --> 01:19:07,980
because that they assault 40% of
the problem. So

1454
01:19:08,010 --> 01:19:10,890
John C Dvorak: let's get a
couple of things straight. The

1455
01:19:10,890 --> 01:19:16,710
tech workers aren't in this part
of town. No, no. Only Twitter's

1456
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:20,640
where the San Francisco
Chronicle is. This is where, you

1457
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,310
know, there's a couple of malls
there and some stores that are

1458
01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:29,550
leaving Nordstroms so that this
is poorly done, to say the

1459
01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:33,330
least. But let's play my San
Francisco clips. Okay, I have

1460
01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:37,230
three of them. Okay, including
one about the driverless car

1461
01:19:37,230 --> 01:19:42,660
fiasco that we've been talking
about. Okay, so we are NorCal s

1462
01:19:42,660 --> 01:19:45,660
f is going to misspelled the
word crime one.

1463
01:19:45,810 --> 01:19:49,410
Unknown: I work from home notice
for federal employees in San

1464
01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:52,290
Francisco. They were told to
work remotely for the

1465
01:19:52,290 --> 01:19:56,190
foreseeable future due to drug
use and rising crime. By the

1466
01:19:56,190 --> 01:19:56,520
way, this

1467
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,100
Adam Curry: is not coordinated.
I think this is I love this. We

1468
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:03,750
both have clip It's about this,
this work from home order. And

1469
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:05,340
I'm all the way in Europe

1470
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:09,179
Unknown: is great on their
office building. Congressman

1471
01:20:09,209 --> 01:20:11,639
Kevin Kiley of California had
this to say

1472
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:14,490
nowadays when you think about
the city, you're less likely to

1473
01:20:14,490 --> 01:20:17,280
think about the Golden Gate
Bridge and the trolley cars and

1474
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,280
the wharf than you are to think
about bashed in windshields and

1475
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,190
open air drug markets and wastes
littered streets. The

1476
01:20:23,190 --> 01:20:26,280
issue was first reported by the
San Francisco Chronicle, it

1477
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,520
involves an 18 story building
that houses various federal

1478
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,600
agencies. A video posted on
social media platform X shows

1479
01:20:33,630 --> 01:20:37,110
dozens of individuals
simultaneously using fentanyl

1480
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,380
steps from the federal
workplace. The video was posted

1481
01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:44,430
by a longtime San Francisco
resident Darren stalcup. He says

1482
01:20:44,430 --> 01:20:47,850
he's seen San Francisco go from
being the cultural capital of

1483
01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:51,840
the world to the technological
capital of the world to now the

1484
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,050
fentanyl capital of the world.
Yeah, guidance for federal

1485
01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:58,200
employees to teleconference adds
to the growing office space

1486
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,310
vacancy in the city. Congressman
Kiley also wrote on acts in

1487
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:05,700
recent months San Francisco's
decline has reached a point of

1488
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:09,270
total collapse. The state
announced the deployment of the

1489
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:12,630
National Guard to the area. The
number of police officers

1490
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:15,120
doubled in June. Congratulations

1491
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,410
Adam Curry: from finger number
one.

1492
01:21:16,980 --> 01:21:18,780
John C Dvorak: There's no
doubling of anything. You can't

1493
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:19,980
find a cop anywhere around

1494
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:24,120
Adam Curry: the world. Fentanyl
breed

1495
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,250
John C Dvorak: instead of taking
care of this mayor breed or

1496
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:29,640
democrat Mayor she's in Hawaii.
So oh, she

1497
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,170
Adam Curry: vacation vacation.
He

1498
01:21:31,170 --> 01:21:33,870
John C Dvorak: was in Maui
during the fires. That's right.

1499
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:37,740
That's right. So let's go clip
to of San Francisco. Personally,

1500
01:21:37,740 --> 01:21:37,800
I

1501
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,760
Unknown: was born and raised in
the San Francisco Bay area. I've

1502
01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:45,240
seen firsthand. pounds of
fentanyl.

1503
01:21:45,390 --> 01:21:47,310
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I'm
having the troll room telling me

1504
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:50,370
that she said something funny at
the end she said curl up instead

1505
01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:52,500
of collapse. Was that a weird
edit.

1506
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,820
Unknown: Congressman Kiley also
wrote on x in recent months, San

1507
01:21:56,820 --> 01:22:00,900
Francisco's decline has reached
a point of total collapse. The

1508
01:22:00,900 --> 01:22:02,820
state announced you said two lap
cola.

1509
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:05,490
Adam Curry: She did good Castro
room

1510
01:22:05,610 --> 01:22:06,720
Unknown: collapse. Personally, I

1511
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,580
was born and raised in the San
Francisco Bay area. I've seen

1512
01:22:11,580 --> 01:22:16,620
firsthand pounds of fentanyl are
distributed and used right there

1513
01:22:16,650 --> 01:22:20,100
on the corner of seventh
commission. And you know, I

1514
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:25,080
personally seen countless people
overdose and it's a very

1515
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,480
pressing issue in San Francisco
right now.

1516
01:22:28,620 --> 01:22:30,690
When did you see a noticeable
decline.

1517
01:22:30,750 --> 01:22:36,240
This happened over a period of
10 to 20 years, you know, 2015,

1518
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:40,590
there was so much hope and
aspirations for San Francisco,

1519
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,810
the south and market area was
transforming faster than ever

1520
01:22:45,810 --> 01:22:50,580
before. Somewhere between all
this advancement in technology,

1521
01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:55,080
there was a decline in humanity.
And for many years, the

1522
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,520
community has been voting
progressively for liberal ideas.

1523
01:23:00,030 --> 01:23:03,480
And personally, I believe that,
you know, what's happening in

1524
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:07,890
our community is a direct result
of electing corrupt Democrats

1525
01:23:07,890 --> 01:23:11,100
who have placed profits above
the families of our community.

1526
01:23:11,550 --> 01:23:15,570
And progressive policy is making
everything progressively worse.

1527
01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:18,450
Harm reduction is causing more
harm. So

1528
01:23:18,570 --> 01:23:22,560
Adam Curry: this is this is
encouraging. The residents are

1529
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,020
saying hey, it's our
politicians. They're finally

1530
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:26,100
waking up to this.

1531
01:23:26,610 --> 01:23:29,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, good luck.
As I've said These elections are

1532
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:30,690
rigged. You know, you're let's
you're

1533
01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:33,420
Adam Curry: gonna be that last
guy with this one house.

1534
01:23:35,790 --> 01:23:39,780
John C Dvorak: Over here on
this? Yeah. Yeah. So Chinese,

1535
01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:44,760
it's all Chinese from China much
better. So yeah, cuz

1536
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:50,940
everything's best price. Yes. So
let's, but let's ignore this and

1537
01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:52,980
go to Southern California or

1538
01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:55,860
Adam Curry: Los Angeles? Yes.
Yes. Yes. Okay.

1539
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:56,940
John C Dvorak: Clip

1540
01:23:56,940 --> 01:24:02,610
Adam Curry: cash. Your question?
Yeah. Christina was asked me

1541
01:24:02,610 --> 01:24:04,890
this. She said when Ronald
Reagan was president, even when

1542
01:24:04,890 --> 01:24:09,690
he was governor was was
California. Really Republican?

1543
01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:13,500
Was it a red state at the time?
Or was it kind of mixed?

1544
01:24:15,450 --> 01:24:18,300
John C Dvorak: It was a mixed
state and it Republicans easily

1545
01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:21,780
got in and we had two or three
Republican governors and then

1546
01:24:21,870 --> 01:24:26,040
out of the blue, it plays became
almost completely Democrat. And

1547
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:26,190
that

1548
01:24:26,190 --> 01:24:29,190
Adam Curry: do you? Can you
point to what that what that how

1549
01:24:29,190 --> 01:24:32,460
that change happened? Or what
that was? Was everyone just fed

1550
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:34,800
up with things being great? No,

1551
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,710
John C Dvorak: I think it had to
Yes. I think it had to do with

1552
01:24:37,710 --> 01:24:42,630
the Republican Party becoming
highly religious and turning off

1553
01:24:42,630 --> 01:24:43,350
the electorate.

1554
01:24:43,410 --> 01:24:47,460
Adam Curry: Ah, okay. And so the
Oh, that makes sense that the

1555
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,010
John C Dvorak: California
Republican Party is about as

1556
01:24:50,010 --> 01:24:54,000
useless as any party mechanism
in all

1557
01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:57,600
Adam Curry: all the states.
Okay. So then it but if you go

1558
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,970
John C Dvorak: to a meeting
somewhere the independents are

1559
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,670
because boy they just complain
about these guys like there's

1560
01:25:02,670 --> 01:25:06,390
nothing they won't give anyone
money there just is a bunch of

1561
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,450
Adam Curry: what's what's going
on in the background there's

1562
01:25:09,450 --> 01:25:13,950
there's like some I have no idea
so loud a lot of noise

1563
01:25:14,010 --> 01:25:17,250
John C Dvorak: is some does some
crazy noise. Okay, all right.

1564
01:25:18,540 --> 01:25:21,720
Probably have no idea what it is
mostly SoCal one smash

1565
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,780
Unknown: and grab robberies have
hit Southern California once

1566
01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:28,230
again facts are happening more
frequently and Los Angeles

1567
01:25:28,230 --> 01:25:31,470
County and today's Cristina
Corona has more from the two

1568
01:25:31,470 --> 01:25:33,090
latest stores that were hit

1569
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,900
on Sunday, a shopper recorded
two suspects stealing from a

1570
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:40,560
Nike store in East LA on
Whittier Boulevard. The video

1571
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,770
posted on the citizen app shows
the suspects running in with

1572
01:25:43,770 --> 01:25:48,180
trash bags and taking off with
about $1,000 worth of shoes and

1573
01:25:48,180 --> 01:25:51,720
other items. No injuries were
reported. We asked local

1574
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,960
residents if this makes them
afraid to shop and what to be

1575
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,340
aware of. In

1576
01:25:56,340 --> 01:26:00,090
a way it does, you know, because
I have a kid so I am always

1577
01:26:00,090 --> 01:26:04,650
looking out for his safety. So
yeah, it's just that that

1578
01:26:04,650 --> 01:26:08,640
they're you know, going into our
community and that way, being

1579
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,010
that it is a low income
community and you know, and

1580
01:26:11,010 --> 01:26:11,400
there

1581
01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:16,260
were like, lucky to have a Nike
store here. You never know what

1582
01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:20,070
the person's gonna have a knife,
a gun, they're not thinking

1583
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:22,350
straight, doesn't matter. Just
be careful. But people were

1584
01:26:22,350 --> 01:26:25,350
gonna come in and try to find
easy places like this. Now,

1585
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:27,510
there's a lot of the
requirements for companies. They

1586
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:31,380
tell you don't. Don't follow
them. They'll talk to him don't

1587
01:26:31,410 --> 01:26:34,680
think they just it's not worth
it. Because the thing is that

1588
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,860
loss will be written off. It'd
be a write off for taxes and

1589
01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:41,310
beer for insurance. Whatever it
is, they don't nobody loses.

1590
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,300
Yes,

1591
01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:45,240
Adam Curry: yes. Everybody loses
in the end my friend.

1592
01:26:46,350 --> 01:26:48,630
John C Dvorak: I think I've done
read your card deck is that was

1593
01:26:48,630 --> 01:26:51,240
the reason I stopped that clip
there because horrible thing to

1594
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,660
say. It's a horrible because
everybody loses you have to pay

1595
01:26:54,660 --> 01:26:58,500
more in insurance and taxes go
up for everybody else. This is

1596
01:26:58,500 --> 01:27:03,030
bullcrap. Where do you get that
idea? But But that idea is

1597
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:06,930
pushed by the education system
by the by the Democrats and

1598
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,070
Adam Curry: once we got that
law, which is nine up to $900

1599
01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:18,510
You know you can go scot free.
That really solidified it. This

1600
01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:21,300
smash and grabs are here we go
to nine. We

1601
01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:23,040
Unknown: reached out to the Nike
store. You know,

1602
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,430
Adam Curry: it has Mimi's head
fallen down onto the desk yet

1603
01:27:26,430 --> 01:27:27,720
she listening to this show.

1604
01:27:30,750 --> 01:27:33,540
Unknown: We reached out to the
Nike store but they declined to

1605
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:36,570
comment. The Los Angeles County
Sheriff's Department said this

1606
01:27:36,570 --> 01:27:40,740
particular store is targeted
weekly, and on Saturday video

1607
01:27:40,740 --> 01:27:44,070
posted on the citizen app
captured 20 to 50 Thieves

1608
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,250
swarming a Nordstrom at the
Westfield Topanga shopping

1609
01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:50,370
center in Canoga Park as they
cleared out the store during a

1610
01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:54,060
destructive robbery. The video
shows thieves wearing all black

1611
01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:57,480
violently grabbing whatever
merchandise they can carry. With

1612
01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:00,780
many thieves seen ripping off
the security devices attached to

1613
01:28:00,780 --> 01:28:05,130
designer purses and luggage
items. Officials say 60,000 to

1614
01:28:05,130 --> 01:28:09,300
$100,000 worth of merchandise
was stolen. Police are still

1615
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:12,390
searching for the suspects
involved following the viral

1616
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:16,530
video rapper 50 cent row on
Instagram I told you LA was

1617
01:28:16,530 --> 01:28:19,500
finished they are going to have
to lock the doors appointment

1618
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:23,820
only SMH This comes just weeks
after he commented about the

1619
01:28:23,820 --> 01:28:27,420
reinstatement of the zero bail
policy in Los Angeles County

1620
01:28:27,420 --> 01:28:29,430
saying La is finished.

1621
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:34,440
Adam Curry: Yeah, the zero bail
policy. Oh goodness zero

1622
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:37,230
John C Dvorak: bail policy I
figured out and they wonder why

1623
01:28:37,230 --> 01:28:38,280
this is going on.

1624
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:40,230
Adam Curry: I figured out what
that sound is behind you.

1625
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,640
John C Dvorak: What is it? Well,
a

1626
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,970
Unknown: dangerous alien Hornet
has invaded the US for the first

1627
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:48,030
time ever. The yellow legged
Hornet you see is there is a

1628
01:28:48,030 --> 01:28:52,530
relative of what we know as the
murder Hornet and alert spotted

1629
01:28:52,530 --> 01:28:55,680
one on his property near
Savannah, Georgia and contacted

1630
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,130
Agriculture officials know the
pest preys on honey bees and

1631
01:28:59,130 --> 01:29:03,390
poses an extreme risk to the
honey industry unless it's taken

1632
01:29:03,390 --> 01:29:04,260
out pretty quickly.

1633
01:29:04,530 --> 01:29:05,430
Adam Curry: Motor Hornet

1634
01:29:06,030 --> 01:29:08,490
John C Dvorak: well is this
different than the murder Hornet

1635
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:12,570
I don't know. I think it's the
same one they eat honey bees to

1636
01:29:13,710 --> 01:29:19,530
this big ugly thing this is just
mispronounce murder.

1637
01:29:19,770 --> 01:29:23,640
Adam Curry: Now that's possible
mode. It was it was the script

1638
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:28,860
was was smudged. I think what
they should have said is this is

1639
01:29:28,860 --> 01:29:31,500
climate change that would have
made more sense climb out that

1640
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:34,260
delta good climate change,
climate change talking about

1641
01:29:34,260 --> 01:29:36,480
John C Dvorak: climate change. I
do have a couple of clips. Okay.

1642
01:29:37,050 --> 01:29:42,480
Now this is a clip. It's a great
clip. The problem is and it was

1643
01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:45,450
sent to me and we can't find the
source of it but it's obviously

1644
01:29:45,450 --> 01:29:51,300
some TV interview show in
Australia. And and people

1645
01:29:51,300 --> 01:29:53,610
listening to this I would like
to get to source I'd like to

1646
01:29:53,610 --> 01:29:57,840
know who the interviewer is and
who the woman is okay. And she's

1647
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,970
a woman that worked in
government and she was

1648
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,800
Environmental and the was the
EPA but she worked for one of

1649
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:10,590
the British or sorry, Australian
legislators. And she's kind of

1650
01:30:10,590 --> 01:30:13,230
an expert and this information,
I was starting to think about

1651
01:30:13,470 --> 01:30:17,010
what she has to say here. And I
have to say, oh, you know, what

1652
01:30:17,010 --> 01:30:20,130
she say has to be true. And here
we go. And

1653
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,380
Unknown: I'm sorry, I used to
work for the federal

1654
01:30:22,380 --> 01:30:26,130
government. I did, yeah, for
seven years doing why I was

1655
01:30:26,130 --> 01:30:30,090
policy advisor for a Liberal
Party senator, the area that I

1656
01:30:30,090 --> 01:30:35,490
was working in with renewable
energy. And basically, it was my

1657
01:30:35,490 --> 01:30:39,690
job to uncover a lot of the
stuff that was going on with the

1658
01:30:39,690 --> 01:30:44,730
Renewable Energy Act, which was
put in in 2002, under the Howard

1659
01:30:44,730 --> 01:30:48,120
Government. So that was the
Liberal Party put the act in

1660
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:54,000
place, and I was looking at the
mess that it had created. And

1661
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,800
what a lot of people don't
understand is that the Renewable

1662
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:05,010
Energy Act creates a subsidy
environment where if you build

1663
01:31:05,010 --> 01:31:10,020
wind turbines, you're paid
between 600,900 1000 per ton per

1664
01:31:10,020 --> 01:31:15,900
year, as a subsidy alone. Well,
if it's on your property, no. So

1665
01:31:16,260 --> 01:31:19,620
what happens is the wind company
comes in and they pay a lease to

1666
01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:25,290
the farmer to build the wind
turbines. And that, in effect,

1667
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,710
makes sure that the farmer is
still liable for the turbine.

1668
01:31:29,580 --> 01:31:34,710
And they pay a lease of $12,000
a year usually. And the company

1669
01:31:34,710 --> 01:31:38,400
gets paid between 609 100,000
per turbine per year.

1670
01:31:38,820 --> 01:31:42,960
So they pay 12,000 to the
farmer, but they get $600,000.

1671
01:31:42,990 --> 01:31:46,530
Exactly. Per turbine. Yeah. This
is a big incentive to put in

1672
01:31:46,530 --> 01:31:47,160
turbines.

1673
01:31:47,190 --> 01:31:50,790
Yeah. And the land owner takes
the liability for the turbine.

1674
01:31:50,820 --> 01:31:51,240
So

1675
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,300
he gets $12,000 a year. But if
anything happens, really he's

1676
01:31:54,300 --> 01:31:56,190
got to fix it. Or she's got to
fix Yeah,

1677
01:31:56,220 --> 01:31:59,010
when they catch on fire. Yeah,
they're responsible for their

1678
01:31:59,010 --> 01:32:01,290
neighbor's properties going up
in smoke. Yeah, I

1679
01:32:01,290 --> 01:32:04,110
Adam Curry: saw I was I sent
this clip as well, I remember

1680
01:32:04,110 --> 01:32:04,560
this.

1681
01:32:05,610 --> 01:32:08,880
John C Dvorak: And for some
reason, I think you also got

1682
01:32:09,450 --> 01:32:16,080
sent no got sent to you and me.
So let's go to part two. And

1683
01:32:16,140 --> 01:32:18,450
part two is actually I think, is
even more interesting, because

1684
01:32:18,450 --> 01:32:23,850
it brings to mind just a
consideration of the laws of

1685
01:32:23,850 --> 01:32:25,650
physics. And

1686
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,370
Unknown: effectively, that money
the subsidy that's getting paid

1687
01:32:29,370 --> 01:32:34,260
to the wind farms is reaming $40
billion a year out of the

1688
01:32:34,260 --> 01:32:38,310
Australian economy. And it's
paid by everyone. Every

1689
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:42,480
pensioner householder, schools,
hospitals, everyone, it's not

1690
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:45,870
just out of your tax, it comes
out of your power bill. Just

1691
01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:49,560
went parables are going up.
Yeah, that's terrible. So going

1692
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,860
up to pay for wind turbines that
don't work. Exactly. And why

1693
01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:53,550
don't they work?

1694
01:32:53,610 --> 01:32:58,590
So they don't work? Because for
a start, they draw power off the

1695
01:32:58,590 --> 01:33:01,440
grid. So they have to have coal
fired power in order to turn

1696
01:33:01,950 --> 01:33:05,550
windmills, the turbines. And
essentially,

1697
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:08,700
what do you mean the power to
turn so when we see them

1698
01:33:08,700 --> 01:33:11,100
turning, that's not the wind,
that's the power generator

1699
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:11,460
turning,

1700
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,880
essentially, they have to draw
power off the grid. So they have

1701
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:19,530
to draw coal fired power off the
grid in order to turn. And what

1702
01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:23,700
happens when the wind picks up,
they do actually start to create

1703
01:33:23,730 --> 01:33:26,850
electricity of their own. But
that electricity is so

1704
01:33:26,850 --> 01:33:30,900
intermittent and unreliable.
When it gets back to the grid.

1705
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:36,360
It has to be balanced on the
grid, which you can't do. And

1706
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:38,940
like with your coal fired power
session, you can't ramp your

1707
01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:42,690
coal fired power stations up and
down. So the coal fired power

1708
01:33:42,690 --> 01:33:46,680
station says at the same level,
because it takes 24 to 48 hours

1709
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,560
for them to get up to heat
anyway. And they just let off

1710
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:54,780
steam as the wind comes onto the
grid. So there's absolutely

1711
01:33:54,780 --> 01:33:58,500
nothing about them that works
apart from reaming that amount

1712
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,410
of money out of the Australian
economy and it's going offshore.

1713
01:34:01,890 --> 01:34:03,210
Adam Curry: I think this lady is
dead.

1714
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,630
John C Dvorak: They killed her.
So I was thinking about it

1715
01:34:09,630 --> 01:34:14,640
because those big giant turbines
that you'll see nowadays,

1716
01:34:14,700 --> 01:34:18,450
they're huge everywhere. Yeah,
the wind can't get those things

1717
01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:22,380
going. There's no way physically
possible. So they didn't realize

1718
01:34:22,380 --> 01:34:23,520
to be turned on.

1719
01:34:23,610 --> 01:34:25,410
Adam Curry: They gotta be
kickstarted. They need a little

1720
01:34:25,410 --> 01:34:25,920
booster.

1721
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:28,590
John C Dvorak: They gotta be
beyond Kickstarter, they have to

1722
01:34:28,590 --> 01:34:33,720
be spinning to a point where the
wind can actually contribute to

1723
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:38,250
the to the force that's used to
make him spin around. Just the

1724
01:34:38,250 --> 01:34:41,040
laws of physics can tell you
that if those things are just

1725
01:34:41,070 --> 01:34:45,000
staying, if they're just
standing there with those big

1726
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,540
blades that you can't get those
blades to move with just with a

1727
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:53,460
30 mile an hour breeze or 40
Even and you have to start them

1728
01:34:53,460 --> 01:34:54,330
yourself.

1729
01:34:54,780 --> 01:34:57,180
Adam Curry: I wish I wish more
people understood what's going

1730
01:34:57,180 --> 01:35:00,900
on. I mean, I have bumped into
so many people are on Holland,

1731
01:35:01,170 --> 01:35:06,810
who are all in on this nano wind
is good? Yeah, it's good. It

1732
01:35:06,810 --> 01:35:10,200
really makes sense. You know,
we've been using windmills since

1733
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:15,300
the 1400s. Yeah, windmill on

1734
01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:18,330
John C Dvorak: a radio show. I
did real computing years ago, I

1735
01:35:18,330 --> 01:35:22,950
had the father dozer interview
show. I had the father of modern

1736
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:27,480
wind power. Who did all those
blades that you see in the

1737
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:30,510
ultimate pass and in Palm
Springs, you know, the small

1738
01:35:30,510 --> 01:35:36,210
ones? Yeah. And he had, I had a
lot of very interesting chat

1739
01:35:36,210 --> 01:35:39,750
with him. And I would like to I
got a fine, do some research and

1740
01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:42,300
find out who that guy is, again,
because I have to ask him about

1741
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:42,480
these

1742
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:44,820
Adam Curry: blades. He's dead.
He's dead. He's not going to

1743
01:35:45,870 --> 01:35:50,820
kill them all. I mean, it's just
like right now these fires. And

1744
01:35:50,820 --> 01:35:54,600
and there's a lot of talk about
the fires all over Europe. This

1745
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,830
is state of fear by Michael
Crighton. This is exactly what

1746
01:35:58,830 --> 01:36:01,470
this is. We'll get to Maui in a
minute. I mean, we'll get to my

1747
01:36:01,470 --> 01:36:05,010
problem after the break. But all
of this is all climate change

1748
01:36:05,010 --> 01:36:07,650
related. They are pushing it
they are ramming it down our

1749
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:11,310
throats. Did you hear about
this, this landmark case in

1750
01:36:11,310 --> 01:36:12,030
Montana.

1751
01:36:12,930 --> 01:36:13,650
John C Dvorak: No town,

1752
01:36:13,980 --> 01:36:17,010
Unknown: landmark climate change
lawsuit, a group of young people

1753
01:36:17,010 --> 01:36:20,250
successfully sue the government
in Montana for failing to

1754
01:36:20,250 --> 01:36:22,980
protect them from climate
change. Kevin Dwyer is in

1755
01:36:22,980 --> 01:36:26,460
Washington for those details for
us. Good morning, Devin. Hey,

1756
01:36:26,460 --> 01:36:29,940
good morning, Robin. This is the
first time a US court has ruled

1757
01:36:29,940 --> 01:36:33,750
that the government violated the
rights of children by failing to

1758
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:36,690
protect them from climate
change. This was a case bought

1759
01:36:36,690 --> 01:36:40,500
by kids ages five to 22. They
testified in court about the

1760
01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:44,250
impacts of wildfires, drought
and floods near their homes. The

1761
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:46,590
judge in the case that
scientific evidence clearly

1762
01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:49,740
links those events to fossil
fuels being promoted by the

1763
01:36:49,740 --> 01:36:52,920
state. And she declared that the
state's constitution guarantees

1764
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,430
a right to a clean and healthful
environment which includes the

1765
01:36:56,430 --> 01:37:00,630
climate. The decision now means
that officials will be required

1766
01:37:00,630 --> 01:37:03,870
to consider greenhouse gas
emissions when they consider new

1767
01:37:03,870 --> 01:37:07,410
oil and gas projects in the
state of Montana. The state says

1768
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:10,830
it will appeal this decision.
But it is inspiring this morning

1769
01:37:10,830 --> 01:37:13,830
groups of young people and a
number of other states to sue

1770
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:16,350
their governments to do more
about climate change who

1771
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:18,870
Adam Curry: is inspiring to sue
the school. Now what's

1772
01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:23,730
interesting is a clip custodian
got two clips for me, one from

1773
01:37:23,730 --> 01:37:28,680
ABC about the story one from NBC
both exactly the same length.

1774
01:37:29,130 --> 01:37:31,530
Let's see if the content is the
same. And

1775
01:37:31,530 --> 01:37:34,590
Unknown: in Montana today, a
landmark court decision a judge

1776
01:37:34,590 --> 01:37:37,470
siding with a group of young
people who accused the state of

1777
01:37:37,470 --> 01:37:41,310
violating their rights by
supporting fossil fuels. And

1778
01:37:41,310 --> 01:37:44,370
Thompson joins us now. And this
could be a game changer it could

1779
01:37:44,370 --> 01:37:48,090
last year and it's a sweeping
victory for the 16 young people

1780
01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:51,930
who brought the case. The first
of its kind to go to trial, a

1781
01:37:51,930 --> 01:37:55,860
district judge ruled that their
right to a clean and healthful

1782
01:37:55,860 --> 01:37:59,520
environment as guaranteed by
Montana's constitution was

1783
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,690
violated because the state
prohibited agencies from taking

1784
01:38:03,690 --> 01:38:07,560
climate change impacts into
consideration when evaluating

1785
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,940
fossil fuel projects. The judge
also ruled that the ban was

1786
01:38:11,970 --> 01:38:15,630
unconstitutional. The judge
found the state knew about the

1787
01:38:15,630 --> 01:38:19,740
dangers of greenhouse gases from
fossil fuels for at least 30

1788
01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:23,370
years. And that until the
concentrations are reduced. She

1789
01:38:23,370 --> 01:38:27,270
says young people will be unable
to lead clean and healthy lives

1790
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:30,630
in Montana. The state says it
will appeal a spokesperson

1791
01:38:30,630 --> 01:38:33,480
called the trial absurd and a
publicity stunt.

1792
01:38:35,670 --> 01:38:39,210
John C Dvorak: Publicity stunt
was really bad about this is

1793
01:38:39,210 --> 01:38:44,400
that this took place in Montana.
Yes, were you think that no

1794
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:49,530
better than no better? And no,
Montana has got wide open skies

1795
01:38:49,530 --> 01:38:53,730
as clean as a whistle of dirt. I
mean, I guess if you're downwind

1796
01:38:53,730 --> 01:38:59,550
of a copper mine. We are talking
about rubbish. I thought you had

1797
01:38:59,550 --> 01:39:00,630
to have these clips, you're
gonna do

1798
01:39:00,630 --> 01:39:02,790
Adam Curry: them back to back.
So I just played them that you

1799
01:39:02,790 --> 01:39:05,580
heard two of them back to back,
though I thought do I said you

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01:39:05,580 --> 01:39:09,420
had another one? Okay. Rubisco
member Rubisco. We talked about

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01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:13,980
in the last show this protein
stuff made from alfalfa. Rob

1802
01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:16,590
Rubisco, which is supposed to
give you all the protein you

1803
01:39:16,590 --> 01:39:22,260
need. So now a Saudi company is
in Arizona, and they have been

1804
01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:27,480
given unlimited water rights to
grow alfalfa in Arizona, which

1805
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:30,540
is not really good right now.
And this will be turned into

1806
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:36,270
Rubisco. And in that same
Rubisco report we had we heard

1807
01:39:36,810 --> 01:39:41,040
that one ounce of broccoli is
the same protein as one ounce of

1808
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:46,500
steak. That was doctors Sailesh

1809
01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:49,080
John C Dvorak: Rao from the
clinic and then we debunked it

1810
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:49,710
on the spot.

1811
01:39:49,740 --> 01:39:54,270
Adam Curry: Right? Well, we got
we got a ash in Texas. And she

1812
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,440
she actually has a child who
can't have beef or a whole bunch

1813
01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:03,150
of reasons metabolic disorder.
PKU doesn't sound good. And she

1814
01:40:03,150 --> 01:40:06,240
says, Look, I've been on this
journey for 17 years. You can

1815
01:40:06,510 --> 01:40:10,320
imagine my reaction to hearing
this doctor statement. So she

1816
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,110
says one ounce of steak,
depending depending on the cat

1817
01:40:13,110 --> 01:40:18,870
or cut or fat level, on average,
8.7 grams of protein 43

1818
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:25,050
calories. 315 milligrams of
fair. What is fair, Ph. D?

1819
01:40:27,390 --> 01:40:28,290
What's Ph? D?

1820
01:40:29,070 --> 01:40:33,450
John C Dvorak: Not pH. E, Ph. D.
We should know that no idea.

1821
01:40:34,290 --> 01:40:37,470
Adam Curry: One ounce of
broccoli, point six grams of

1822
01:40:37,470 --> 01:40:44,520
protein 10 calories. So this is
bull. Everyone's lying. It's so

1823
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:45,990
crazy. I

1824
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:48,390
John C Dvorak: know they lie and
they lie on the air. And then

1825
01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:52,260
they are great journalists of
this country, though. Okay.

1826
01:40:52,890 --> 01:40:55,770
Adam Curry: Sounds good. And
then we talked to the guy said,

1827
01:40:55,770 --> 01:40:59,880
Who unless you're unless you're
eating rocks. And then people

1828
01:41:00,510 --> 01:41:03,840
say that people sent me the sea,
the sea, we should probably play

1829
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,110
that clip again. Hold on, just
to make sure we have that was

1830
01:41:07,110 --> 01:41:16,050
that rocks was this guy was
Rubisco Rubisco?

1831
01:41:18,510 --> 01:41:22,170
Unknown: Was it this? Scientists
describe Rubisco as nature's

1832
01:41:22,170 --> 01:41:26,160
most dominant carbon dioxide
fixing enzyme, and are very

1833
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,790
interested in its role in the
global carbon cycle. But we've

1834
01:41:29,790 --> 01:41:33,540
got Sailesh Rao on the show to
make this simpler enough for us

1835
01:41:33,540 --> 01:41:36,930
to understand hopefully, he's
the executive director of

1836
01:41:36,930 --> 01:41:40,350
climate healers, a company that
among many things, tries to help

1837
01:41:40,350 --> 01:41:43,350
people understand that we all
have the resources we need to

1838
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:46,560
solve each of our global
problems. So it's a pleasure,

1839
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,610
thank you for your time.

1840
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,630
Thank you for having me.

1841
01:41:48,660 --> 01:41:52,410
Before we start, I just have to
say your website climate. Org

1842
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,710
describes in fascinating detail
how you got involved in

1843
01:41:55,770 --> 01:42:00,090
environmentalism, starting with
the seeing a documentary by Al

1844
01:42:00,090 --> 01:42:07,140
Gore. Just tell us a bit about
Rubisco how beneficial it is and

1845
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:07,740
can be

1846
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:14,790
it is plant protein. And it is
ubiquitous in the world. And to

1847
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:20,340
me, it is a signal from nature
saying protein is everywhere. So

1848
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:23,550
do you eat plants, you're gonna
get your protein because protein

1849
01:42:23,550 --> 01:42:27,210
is a building block of life.
Unless we are eating rocks, we

1850
01:42:27,210 --> 01:42:29,730
are going to get enough protein
in our diet. Okay,

1851
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,580
Adam Curry: so he said unless
you're eating rocks, and that

1852
01:42:32,580 --> 01:42:35,190
turns out the Chinese are eating
rocks. This

1853
01:42:35,190 --> 01:42:38,190
Unknown: Chinese stir fry
features rocks as the main

1854
01:42:38,190 --> 01:42:42,150
ingredients, and social media
calls a quote, world's hardest

1855
01:42:42,180 --> 01:42:47,220
dish. People are supposed to
suck off the flavors then spit

1856
01:42:47,220 --> 01:42:51,570
out the rocks, hence the dishes
name so do meanings suck and

1857
01:42:51,570 --> 01:42:56,640
dispose. The dish originated in
Hubei province, and is said to

1858
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,090
date back hundreds of years. It
was reportedly passed down for

1859
01:43:00,090 --> 01:43:07,530
generations by boatman through
their oral history. Street

1860
01:43:07,530 --> 01:43:11,340
vendors cook the pebbles with
spices, chili oil and garlic on

1861
01:43:11,340 --> 01:43:15,720
a sizzling grill. Each portion
costs about 16 When which is

1862
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,090
around $2.30 You

1863
01:43:18,090 --> 01:43:19,920
Adam Curry: have been around
Have you ever seen this rock

1864
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:27,240
dish? No. This is this must be
some kind of programming. They

1865
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,570
must be just programming our
brains getting us some phony

1866
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:36,750
nuts ready to eat rocks? And
Rubisco rocks and Rubisco of my

1867
01:43:36,750 --> 01:43:43,440
Rubisco on the rocks please.
Yummy. I don't know. I don't

1868
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:43,740
know.

1869
01:43:45,630 --> 01:43:46,920
John C Dvorak: All right, well,
let's see what else we get on

1870
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:47,490
our list.

1871
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,610
Adam Curry: I'll tell you what,
why don't I thank you for your

1872
01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:54,300
courage and say in the morning
to you the man who put the sea

1873
01:43:54,330 --> 01:43:57,000
in the collab players and
gentlemen please say hello to my

1874
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,640
friend on the other end the one
and only Mr. John

1875
01:44:04,710 --> 01:44:07,500
John C Dvorak: curry in the
morning all ships and see who's

1876
01:44:07,500 --> 01:44:10,950
on the ground feeding their subs
in the water and all the days

1877
01:44:10,950 --> 01:44:11,880
and nights out there.

1878
01:44:14,910 --> 01:44:17,100
Adam Curry: And a big hearty in
the morning to the trolls and

1879
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:20,040
the troll room once well hold on
a second we make sure we count

1880
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:31,500
the prop joke out there the
trolls 1890. Right That sounds

1881
01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:34,200
about right. You know I figured
out what happened on Sunday

1882
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:41,010
show. It was my mistake. I had
not sent out the bat signal to

1883
01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:46,830
pod verse. You know, which you
give me crap for that. I keep

1884
01:44:46,830 --> 01:44:50,370
saying pod verse because there
must be a couple 100 people who

1885
01:44:50,370 --> 01:44:54,060
really rely on that bad signal.
And that's why that's why it was

1886
01:44:54,060 --> 01:44:57,600
low. We were down by a couple
100 So that's what happened.

1887
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,890
Yeah, yeah, more than Yes. 300
At least something like that. So

1888
01:45:01,890 --> 01:45:05,850
I apologize. I apologize, people
like I didn't get a bad signal.

1889
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:09,060
And this is why we have a
newsletter. This is why we

1890
01:45:09,060 --> 01:45:12,600
remind people that there's a
show coming up tomorrow because

1891
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,450
people have busy lives. They got
lots of podcasts to listen to.

1892
01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:18,870
Now, except, I guess not that
Glenn Beck podcast. You hear

1893
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:19,800
what happened there?

1894
01:45:20,700 --> 01:45:22,770
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they still
can't get to the bottom of it.

1895
01:45:22,830 --> 01:45:23,220
Yeah,

1896
01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:25,920
Adam Curry: I have is this clip
here, just

1897
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,070
Unknown: sitting here in my
office, and we're discussing

1898
01:45:29,070 --> 01:45:35,910
something that we just saw.
Here. This is from Apple, we

1899
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:38,370
found an issue with your show
the Glenn Beck program, which

1900
01:45:38,370 --> 01:45:41,220
must be resolved before it's
available on Apple podcasts.

1901
01:45:41,550 --> 01:45:44,610
Your show has been removed from
Apple podcast from the Apple

1902
01:45:44,610 --> 01:45:45,630
podcast team.

1903
01:45:46,380 --> 01:45:48,960
Adam Curry: Now, so he went on
and on and on. And first of all,

1904
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,450
I'm sitting there going like,
Glenn, did you listen to what I

1905
01:45:51,450 --> 01:45:55,890
told you when I was on your show
twice? That you need to tell

1906
01:45:55,890 --> 01:46:00,870
people not to use ditch the
legacy app, which is Apple,

1907
01:46:01,230 --> 01:46:04,500
because there's, you know, over
65 apps and services that use

1908
01:46:04,500 --> 01:46:09,930
podcasts index.org, in his show
was just fine. There. It's just

1909
01:46:09,930 --> 01:46:13,980
fine. So I'm a little irked
about that. And then and he

1910
01:46:13,980 --> 01:46:17,400
wants everyone to petition
people. Yes. Good tell upon to

1911
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:23,550
put us back on. It's sad. It's
really sad. I mean, we're not

1912
01:46:23,550 --> 01:46:26,700
even on Spotify, because we
won't sign their contract, which

1913
01:46:26,700 --> 01:46:29,490
allows them to do whatever they
want, including put advertising

1914
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,030
in and around our show. You This
is

1915
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,720
John C Dvorak: people there is a
fake no agenda done by some

1916
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:37,440
kids.

1917
01:46:38,700 --> 01:46:41,820
Adam Curry: Is it? Is it this is
our show, or is it their own

1918
01:46:41,820 --> 01:46:42,720
show? No, no.

1919
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:43,650
John C Dvorak: It's their own
show.

1920
01:46:43,710 --> 01:46:44,460
Adam Curry: I sue him.

1921
01:46:45,690 --> 01:46:49,110
John C Dvorak: Well, we would
like to at least mentioned to

1922
01:46:49,110 --> 01:46:51,870
them to take the damn thing
down. But there's they have no

1923
01:46:51,870 --> 01:46:55,200
email address. You can't track
it down. Jay has been working

1924
01:46:55,200 --> 01:47:01,350
on. It's nobody knows who they
are. Nobody listened to it. A

1925
01:47:01,350 --> 01:47:02,520
couple of kids.

1926
01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:03,990
Adam Curry: And it's called no
agenda.

1927
01:47:04,230 --> 01:47:05,760
John C Dvorak: It's great. Yeah,
no, no agenda.

1928
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:10,410
Adam Curry: Anyway, this is a
problem you won't run into if

1929
01:47:10,410 --> 01:47:13,830
you if you are in the troll room
troll room.io where you can

1930
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:17,340
always hang out and listen to
the live show. But if you want

1931
01:47:17,340 --> 01:47:19,530
to make sure that all of your
favorite podcasts, even if

1932
01:47:19,530 --> 01:47:22,320
they're thrown off of some of
the big tech Silicon Valley

1933
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,610
platforms, they will still
continue. You go to podcast

1934
01:47:26,610 --> 01:47:29,880
apps.com. And with the live
shows, you'll get a notification

1935
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,940
if I remember to send it out.
And then you can open up the app

1936
01:47:32,940 --> 01:47:36,270
that has all your existing
podcasts in it's safe and secure

1937
01:47:36,420 --> 01:47:42,510
because they're not going to be
thrown away. They won't be then

1938
01:47:42,510 --> 01:47:46,500
as you know Southern Poverty Law
Center's after after podcasts

1939
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:51,630
are dangerous. There's no no
moderation. Well, Apple either

1940
01:47:51,630 --> 01:47:54,540
moderate, I heard it might have
been a trademark issue,

1941
01:47:55,020 --> 01:47:57,450
John C Dvorak: which you guys
will want that Variety magazine

1942
01:47:57,450 --> 01:47:58,470
did an article on it.

1943
01:47:58,620 --> 01:48:00,900
Adam Curry: And was it? What was
the trademark issue? What

1944
01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:01,650
exactly was

1945
01:48:01,650 --> 01:48:03,840
John C Dvorak: nobody knows
Glenn Beck said there was a

1946
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,420
trade but he also admitted there
was a trademark issue that's

1947
01:48:06,420 --> 01:48:10,830
been resolved, but it was months
ago. And the actual trademark

1948
01:48:10,830 --> 01:48:16,380
issue was never brought up in
the story. And Beck didn't say

1949
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:16,590
it

1950
01:48:16,590 --> 01:48:18,930
Adam Curry: just seems volatile.
You know, you just don't you

1951
01:48:18,930 --> 01:48:21,210
can't depend on these guys.
That's why I started a podcast

1952
01:48:21,210 --> 01:48:25,860
index three years ago. You can't
depend on it. They don't care.

1953
01:48:26,430 --> 01:48:27,240
And everybody thinks

1954
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,130
John C Dvorak: no, they don't
care. That's the real problem is

1955
01:48:29,130 --> 01:48:33,690
not that they're evil. Are they
delicious? Generally they are.

1956
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,050
But besides that they don't care
about you don't care. That's the

1957
01:48:37,050 --> 01:48:40,980
main thing. They don't care.
They don't care. And you see on

1958
01:48:41,010 --> 01:48:45,150
excess that's not like a profit
center for them that they don't

1959
01:48:45,150 --> 01:48:48,870
care product. That's in fact,
probably irksome to them that

1960
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:51,120
they probably would rather not
do it. Yeah,

1961
01:48:51,150 --> 01:48:56,400
Adam Curry: exactly. And then if
you look at the comments on X,

1962
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,370
formerly known as Twitter,
you'll see stuff like that's

1963
01:48:59,370 --> 01:49:02,610
okay. We hate hate speech
anyway. We don't need you on

1964
01:49:02,610 --> 01:49:09,450
Apple. To Who are we hate hate
speech, Glenn Beck is the

1965
01:49:09,450 --> 01:49:13,800
furthest from a hate speech you
can imagine. Anyway, get one of

1966
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,950
those modern podcast apps that
just doesn't happen you and you

1967
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:19,500
don't miss your favorite no
agenda show. And the way people

1968
01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:22,380
are these days is my ultimate
point is you'll forget you're

1969
01:49:22,380 --> 01:49:26,370
like, oh, what days and you'll
forget you won't get notified.

1970
01:49:26,370 --> 01:49:29,640
It won't show up. If you're
using Apple podcasts. And you

1971
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:34,050
don't know Gee, what happened to
those no agenda guys. You're

1972
01:49:34,050 --> 01:49:35,160
going to miss out on.

1973
01:49:35,580 --> 01:49:36,720
John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, they
quit?

1974
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:40,170
Adam Curry: Well, but here's
these new kids I found on

1975
01:49:40,170 --> 01:49:44,670
Spotify. They're kind of cool.
I'll listen to them. Oh, man.

1976
01:49:45,060 --> 01:49:48,540
You can also follow us on no
agenda social.com For as long as

1977
01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:52,170
that lasts. I think Signups are
open again. In fact, I'm

1978
01:49:52,170 --> 01:49:54,060
John C Dvorak: quite sure good
Brunetti on it.

1979
01:49:54,690 --> 01:49:57,630
Adam Curry: Dude. Did you see
Burnette ease Gran Turismo

1980
01:49:57,630 --> 01:50:00,540
movie? That's that's that's it?
Hit.

1981
01:50:00,990 --> 01:50:03,840
John C Dvorak: I think so I've
only seen one negative review.

1982
01:50:03,870 --> 01:50:07,410
We got an a negative review is
valid and I think Brunetti would

1983
01:50:07,410 --> 01:50:10,920
go for it. The negative review
was that it was like a little

1984
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,970
like Barbie in that it had way
too many product placements.

1985
01:50:15,060 --> 01:50:15,630
Yeah,

1986
01:50:15,690 --> 01:50:18,300
Adam Curry: I heard the first
half hour is basically all

1987
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:22,080
product placement. Yes, Sony
mostly, that's the only way you

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can get a movie made these days
I'm sure. Well,

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John C Dvorak: Sony is one of
the production companies. So you

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know, they're gonna play their
product in it as it is, Hey, you

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01:50:29,790 --> 01:50:30,990
want to do the movie or not?

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01:50:31,290 --> 01:50:34,590
Adam Curry: Ashlynn speed the
official no agenda, racecar

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01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:39,330
driver. She went to see it. She
loved it. She and her dad, Greg.

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Two thumbs up one of the best
movies ever made. I'm hearing

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01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:46,140
that a lot of people like it
because it's, you know, it's

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01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:50,610
like a positive male role model.
figure in this movie.

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01:50:50,610 --> 01:50:54,030
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All of male
role models are positive. Yeah,

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01:50:54,180 --> 01:50:57,420
except for the one guy who
worked for Nissan who's played

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01:50:57,420 --> 01:51:02,520
by Orlando Bloom. That guy who
also initiated the whole thing

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01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:06,570
of getting these kids to train
to be real racecar drivers.

2001
01:51:07,020 --> 01:51:10,860
Turns out as you watch him
develop in the movie is just a

2002
01:51:10,860 --> 01:51:17,070
weasel. He's good. Blue plays a
terrific weasel.

2003
01:51:17,730 --> 01:51:20,640
Adam Curry: Okay. Have you seen
the movie?

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01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I went to
see it with Brunetti when he did

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01:51:24,420 --> 01:51:26,700
a preview and I talked about on
the show.

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01:51:26,700 --> 01:51:29,880
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right.
Oh, man. I want to go to a red

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01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,410
car. Well, there's no more red
carpet.

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John C Dvorak: There was no red
carpet was just, you know, yeah,

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01:51:33,930 --> 01:51:37,680
it was the IMAX in the middle of
nowhere outside of Sacramento.

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01:51:38,370 --> 01:51:41,160
Well, I look forward to the
middle of nowhere. It's pretty

2011
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:41,880
packed.

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01:51:43,230 --> 01:51:45,060
Adam Curry: Without it's cool,
though, to do that without

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01:51:45,060 --> 01:51:48,840
promotion. That's that's not
bad. That's not bad. Anyway, you

2014
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,050
can follow us on origin to
social.com. All right. Message

2015
01:51:52,050 --> 01:51:54,540
to Aaron or we need to get
Brunetti save an account for

2016
01:51:54,540 --> 01:51:57,630
Brunetti. John wants him I
thought he was already on.

2017
01:51:58,380 --> 01:52:00,630
John C Dvorak: He lost his
password and did the same thing.

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01:52:00,630 --> 01:52:03,810
I did try to retrieve it. But
none of the mechanisms work and

2019
01:52:03,810 --> 01:52:03,900
the

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01:52:04,170 --> 01:52:07,020
Adam Curry: mechanisms work
fine. You just had the wrong

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01:52:07,110 --> 01:52:08,490
email. So long

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01:52:08,490 --> 01:52:10,890
John C Dvorak: gone. He's been
kicked off, I'm sure by now.

2023
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:11,700
Weiss.

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01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:17,580
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, I'm
telling you that it works fine.

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01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:21,270
John C Dvorak: We'll give him a
real easy password. Okay.

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01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:27,210
Adam Curry: All right. Come up
with something for you can

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01:52:27,210 --> 01:52:31,320
follow Jhansi. Dvorak had no
agenda social.com or adamant

2028
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:36,000
nodes in the social.com. And I
know that we're open. Again,

2029
01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:40,740
because I'm getting people
saying, I don't I don't know the

2030
01:52:40,740 --> 01:52:44,940
answer to the question. Now
know, you have to answer a

2031
01:52:44,940 --> 01:52:47,700
couple of no agenda related
questions to see if you're

2032
01:52:47,700 --> 01:52:51,600
worthy of an account, which I
think is pretty good.

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01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:54,360
John C Dvorak: What's ITM mean,
stuff like that.

2034
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,720
Adam Curry: I feel like I don't
understand I don't have it

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01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,120
right, I got I've got I don't
have the right answers. Well,

2036
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:04,650
you'll have to figure that out.
Now, this is a value for value

2037
01:53:04,650 --> 01:53:09,210
show. Which is why, you know,
when, if people kick us off of

2038
01:53:09,210 --> 01:53:12,300
Apple, we don't really care,
because we have all these other

2039
01:53:12,570 --> 01:53:16,320
great apps that you can listen
to us in and we don't need the

2040
01:53:16,590 --> 01:53:20,400
the we won't have that immediate
hit. Because you know, the whole

2041
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:25,380
podcast industrial complex runs
on downloads. And as long as

2042
01:53:25,380 --> 01:53:28,110
your app is still running, and
it downloads the show, whether

2043
01:53:28,110 --> 01:53:32,220
you listen to it or not. That's
how advertisers get duped into

2044
01:53:32,220 --> 01:53:36,450
paying money to advertise on
these shows. And so the minute

2045
01:53:36,450 --> 01:53:40,560
that that stops, then you know,
oops, there goes all your income

2046
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:45,000
from from the app. Now we use
the value for value system. We

2047
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:49,290
pioneered it about 15 and a half
years ago, coming up on our 16th

2048
01:53:49,290 --> 01:53:54,270
anniversary in October, I
believe. And you can find out

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01:53:54,270 --> 01:53:57,750
more about the actual system
value for value dot info, the

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01:53:57,750 --> 01:54:01,470
number four value for value dot
info. And one of the great ways

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01:54:01,470 --> 01:54:05,820
that people contribute their
time, talent or treasure is art.

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01:54:05,970 --> 01:54:09,600
We love the art that the artists
put together for us. We always

2053
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:14,190
have a plethora to select from.
In fact, I want to thank the

2054
01:54:14,190 --> 01:54:18,960
artists for episode 1581. We
titled that quippy. This was

2055
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:23,160
hands down we both knew it right
away. The art was by Sir pulka

2056
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,980
to her artists numero uno. He
also runs no agenda art

2057
01:54:25,980 --> 01:54:29,520
generator.com which you can use
to upload or you can be

2058
01:54:29,700 --> 01:54:32,460
refreshing in real time and go
back later and look at all the

2059
01:54:32,460 --> 01:54:36,540
pieces of art we didn't choose.
disagree with us if you want. Of

2060
01:54:36,540 --> 01:54:40,080
course we also use many of these
pieces in our chapter art in the

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01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:43,770
modern podcast apps pulka to a
really nailed it with this one.

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01:54:43,770 --> 01:54:46,530
In fact, I think you said he's
going for the win.

2063
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,910
John C Dvorak: No, he wasn't
fooling around. Yeah,

2064
01:54:50,910 --> 01:54:52,920
Adam Curry: that's exactly what
it sounded like he was going for

2065
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,310
the wind wasn't fooling around.
What else did we did we look at?

2066
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,050
I mean, we did really

2067
01:54:58,050 --> 01:55:00,990
John C Dvorak: anything huh

2068
01:55:04,620 --> 01:55:07,710
Adam Curry: yeah, we did I like
well, it was It wasn't

2069
01:55:07,710 --> 01:55:11,460
competitive enough, but I kind
of liked the man getting sucked

2070
01:55:11,460 --> 01:55:15,600
into a jet engine which I'm
still hoping we'll be. We'll

2071
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,680
have a we'll eventually see this
happen somewhere. We did another

2072
01:55:19,710 --> 01:55:26,130
suicide by jet engine ingestion.
We had what else was up here?

2073
01:55:27,150 --> 01:55:33,090
Pizza rocks, we had melons, rain
bombs, whatever. There was

2074
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,650
nothing we looked at. Yeah, I'm

2075
01:55:34,650 --> 01:55:37,710
John C Dvorak: saying nothing.
It was just one thing and that

2076
01:55:37,710 --> 01:55:42,450
was it. I did use the rubber
ducky from a couple of shows ago

2077
01:55:42,450 --> 01:55:47,700
for the newsletter, which is
just a stunning piece. I can't

2078
01:55:47,700 --> 01:55:53,160
remember who did it Scaramanga
or one of the guys it was that

2079
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:59,430
was done by Yes. Scaramanga.
Just just just to I mean, it's

2080
01:55:59,430 --> 01:56:04,860
done by that is a Art Generator
doing it as AI but it's just be

2081
01:56:04,860 --> 01:56:09,090
really Yeah, he really told the
AI what to do and he did a good

2082
01:56:09,090 --> 01:56:10,680
job of it. Yeah, now

2083
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,260
Adam Curry: we love it Sir Paul
couture Thank you very much for

2084
01:56:13,290 --> 01:56:15,960
for doing that he actually did
two pieces one with a lighter

2085
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,300
color, we chose to load a
lighter background color that

2086
01:56:18,300 --> 01:56:21,330
was the one to go with. And it
did make a difference. You can

2087
01:56:21,330 --> 01:56:24,270
compete along with all of the
artists no agenda, art

2088
01:56:24,270 --> 01:56:28,710
generator.com It's open for all
to upload to and to participate

2089
01:56:28,710 --> 01:56:32,880
in the grand no agenda art
challenge twice a week. Now for

2090
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,890
the treasurer, we'd like to
thank our executive and

2091
01:56:34,890 --> 01:56:38,100
Associate Executive Producers
right off the bat. These are

2092
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:41,250
real titles, you can keep them
you for they are forever titles.

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So, if you come in at $300 or
above, you are an executive

2094
01:56:45,630 --> 01:56:48,900
producer of the episode this
will be 1580 to 200 and between

2095
01:56:48,900 --> 01:56:52,680
203 100 Associate Executive
Producer and these are

2096
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:57,540
recognized anywhere credits are
respected and the way things are

2097
01:56:57,540 --> 01:57:03,960
going you know, with the with
the with the strikes, more and

2098
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:11,130
more people load up load up now
you can we start our executive

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01:57:11,130 --> 01:57:15,060
producer ship list with Cesar
Baptista from Saugerties New

2100
01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:24,120
York 364 363 64 And this came in
as a note and I have said notes

2101
01:57:24,930 --> 01:57:28,020
lined up do John and Adam the
time has come to drag myself

2102
01:57:28,020 --> 01:57:30,750
over the line and become a no
agenda night so please accept my

2103
01:57:30,750 --> 01:57:34,350
donation with an extra penny for
the jar at home and get my jar

2104
01:57:34,350 --> 01:57:38,160
out here. I did bring that
because there's Penny jar Thank

2105
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:44,550
you very much you guys deserve
it. I survived the James true

2106
01:57:44,580 --> 01:57:49,080
owl attack little pants gang
violence and the gjort wars.

2107
01:57:49,110 --> 01:57:54,360
What is this? What is this?
James true owl attack? Jame

2108
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,300
Truus owl attack and little
pants gang violence and the

2109
01:57:57,300 --> 01:58:00,390
gjort wars? Do you have any idea
what that means?

2110
01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:01,650
John C Dvorak: I have no idea

2111
01:58:01,710 --> 01:58:03,870
Adam Curry: so I've locked up
the bikes and committed myself

2112
01:58:03,870 --> 01:58:07,080
to be a better boy even Iris
aching back has gotten better

2113
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:10,680
though. I doubt the cam Bucha
deserves the credit sorry Ira

2114
01:58:10,770 --> 01:58:14,670
anyhoo please Knight me sir
grips a lot of the righty tidy

2115
01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:18,450
and prepare right mandrem
Bananas and some scarce but were

2116
01:58:18,450 --> 01:58:26,070
the KU Dullea KU Talia for the
after party. Wow This isn't code

2117
01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:28,830
man jingles whooping with a
constitution rev al no real

2118
01:58:28,830 --> 01:58:31,710
contract and you're going to
need a Bitcoin also shout out to

2119
01:58:31,710 --> 01:58:36,150
DS laughs who spits end of show
fire Caesar Baptista from

2120
01:58:36,150 --> 01:58:37,470
Saugerties New York oh

2121
01:58:45,420 --> 01:58:46,740
oh it's classic remix

2122
01:58:50,130 --> 01:58:55,350
Unknown: no real conference
that's ended all hell is gonna

2123
01:58:55,350 --> 01:58:56,940
break loose and you're gonna
need a Bitcoin

2124
01:58:58,140 --> 01:58:59,400
John C Dvorak: there's
definitely going to be the

2125
01:58:59,430 --> 01:59:02,400
weirdest note of the day so
quickly comes up from Spring

2126
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,580
Texas with REITs REITs REITs
REITs reason move on quite

2127
01:59:05,580 --> 01:59:07,740
quickly. We don't have a lot of
donations today. It was pretty

2128
01:59:07,740 --> 01:59:15,450
lame. 33333 Happy 33rd of me.
And I please have another 33

2129
01:59:15,450 --> 01:59:18,810
year old may have a biscuit for
my birthday and some mac and

2130
01:59:18,810 --> 01:59:22,320
cheese. Yeah, thanks for all
that you do much love from

2131
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:25,920
Houston. Kind regards Jonathan
Walker sir Quigley of the

2132
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:27,540
cantankerous

2133
01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:31,170
Adam Curry: Yes. I was looking
for the I was looking at that

2134
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:36,000
that we I was trying to spell
that weird. That we are drink I

2135
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,880
was having trouble with it. They
always give me a biscuit on my

2136
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:39,210
birthday.

2137
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,080
John C Dvorak: You slaves can
get you the mac and cheese.

2138
01:59:43,770 --> 01:59:47,700
Macaroni and cheese. melted
together mac and

2139
01:59:47,700 --> 01:59:49,890
Unknown: cheese mac and cheese
mac and cheese.

2140
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:54,330
Adam Curry: And we have sir
crystal ball in Dallas, Texas.

2141
01:59:54,330 --> 01:59:59,220
333 dot 33 We love that number.
Well f if curry is doing a show

2142
01:59:59,220 --> 02:00:03,870
while on vacation. And WTF is my
excuse for not donating? A lot

2143
02:00:03,870 --> 02:00:05,310
of people apparently didn't
think

2144
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,190
John C Dvorak: the same way you
did. You're like the only guy.

2145
02:00:08,220 --> 02:00:08,580
Yeah.

2146
02:00:09,780 --> 02:00:12,900
Adam Curry: But we appreciate
you. We really do. I haven't

2147
02:00:12,900 --> 02:00:17,040
heard a stay safe in a while so
that would be good. Okay, well,

2148
02:00:17,070 --> 02:00:22,710
you see if I gotta stay safe for
you. Yeah. Oh, that's

2149
02:00:22,710 --> 02:00:27,300
interesting. Stay safe. Where
are we? Where's my big good this

2150
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:30,240
one here we go. Good to see you.
Please stay safe. Stay safe.

2151
02:00:32,850 --> 02:00:35,040
That will be good to crystal
ball the opportunity. Thank you

2152
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:35,640
very much sir.

2153
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,900
John C Dvorak: Howard was with
Sir Dave goes. Where do you go?

2154
02:00:40,050 --> 02:00:43,320
I don't know. Naples, Florida.
He is the first Associate

2155
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:47,400
Executive Producer to an $80.82
ITM and Jan's far beat for me to

2156
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,130
succumb to peer pressure. But
when Baron J be the original

2157
02:00:50,130 --> 02:00:54,510
hater. Oh, I'm sorry. Peter of
my mouth over a decade ago.

2158
02:00:55,080 --> 02:01:01,560
Calls me to to task on show 1581
I must step up and defend my

2159
02:01:01,590 --> 02:01:06,660
honor. Plus, no agenda deserves
any treasure they receive.

2160
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:09,960
Thanks for all you do, fellas.
To Dave goes and all your

2161
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:13,530
friends at the metal spirits
free booze for the round table.

2162
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:14,730
Yeah,

2163
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:19,680
Adam Curry: I love that T shirt.
Sir Michael my article. I think

2164
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:24,720
my article. Milton, Ontario
cambia Tico. Maybe made a Tico

2165
02:01:24,750 --> 02:01:30,360
That'd be better. Milton,
Ontario, Canada 236 25. We're

2166
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,510
already in in our Associate
Executive producers. Hi, John.

2167
02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:36,450
Adam. Thank you for the best
podcast in the universe. I

2168
02:01:36,450 --> 02:01:39,390
couldn't let my little brother
Rob be the only executive

2169
02:01:39,390 --> 02:01:42,630
producer in the family so I'm
chipping in my Oh, that's right.

2170
02:01:42,630 --> 02:01:47,940
He is a did send 3333
candidates. Upgrade. He gets an

2171
02:01:47,940 --> 02:01:51,420
upgrade. That's right. We still
love our Canadian neighbors.

2172
02:01:52,050 --> 02:01:55,860
This is my 50th birthday gift to
myself. So can I get a birthday

2173
02:01:55,860 --> 02:02:00,840
shout out to me August 16. Yes.
Done. Also my son Mason August

2174
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:04,320
18 And my dad Jerry August 19 Oh
so close together be much

2175
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:07,290
appreciated. I love the show and
the no agenda community Big

2176
02:02:07,290 --> 02:02:10,680
shout out to everybody on no
agenda social. I always take the

2177
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:14,490
karma and an Al Sharpton jingle
of your choice. Sir Michael mad

2178
02:02:14,490 --> 02:02:22,470
Tico night of the no agenda
roundtable Yes, F Trudeau DSP

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02:02:22,470 --> 02:02:25,140
ICT. Anaconda for you, sir.

2180
02:02:25,650 --> 02:02:27,330
Unknown: You've got karma.

2181
02:02:28,710 --> 02:02:31,800
John C Dvorak: We have Ed Musial
from Waterford, Michigan are two

2182
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:35,310
two 2.94 with too long a note
but I'll read it anyway. Hello,

2183
02:02:35,310 --> 02:02:37,440
John and Adam. I started
listening to no agenda a bit

2184
02:02:37,470 --> 02:02:40,080
over a year ago, it quickly
became obvious that I'd be

2185
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:44,910
listening enough that I should
donate. In the time since that

2186
02:02:44,910 --> 02:02:51,420
first donation I have been on
many many show binged basis

2187
02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:56,760
being binged. I've been used on
many, many show every shows a

2188
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:00,960
binge, I would recommend to new
and seasoned listeners to

2189
02:03:00,990 --> 02:03:05,250
occasionally review old
episodes, which we discourage as

2190
02:03:05,250 --> 02:03:12,090
it would happen. I just heard
episode five we do. Well, I do.

2191
02:03:12,690 --> 02:03:17,340
But I think you're you're in
agreement. As you know, is a lot

2192
02:03:17,340 --> 02:03:22,020
of reasons for it. I just
listened to Episode 535. That's

2193
02:03:22,020 --> 02:03:25,860
going back Yeah, days before it
was brought up a few shows ago.

2194
02:03:26,010 --> 02:03:29,190
That got me to think that I need
to go back even further. Episode

2195
02:03:29,190 --> 02:03:34,230
150 became the new start point
for the knee the next binge

2196
02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:38,400
stream in that episode 50
minutes into the show there was

2197
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:42,480
mentioned of the vaccine push
being woven into legislation.

2198
02:03:42,810 --> 02:03:47,280
Episode 151 One hour and 10
minutes in there was discussions

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is a reason you we don't want
people listening measles shows

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there was discussion of what
excuse would be generated

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together DNA from us slaves with
the perspective of having to

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test for COVID to return to work
and the test had to be in the

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invasive invasive PCR test I
wondered if that could have been

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a DNA collection vector probably
I have arrived at night level

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with my donation Well good for
you accounting below continue to

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donate the obscurity of
sustaining in this obscurity of

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sustaining level which means I
guess a subscription as I was in

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the current and archive shows I
like to take the title of Sir

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Sir Who said whose ID whose ID
please have cold stout on hand

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at the roundtable. Tri City
Brewing Giant Slayer is the best

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part is a beer that he wants on
there. Thank you for your

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02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:49,200
dedication to the best podcast.
I regret not catching on

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earlier. And

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Adam Curry: that's all right and
we're happy to have you here.

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Oh, you know I'm doing good work
you know if you don't mind since

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you do it best. I'll take Leann
after you do it mandelieu

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pagkain is

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John C Dvorak: jobs karma still
not blinking for a competitive

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edge Go to Image makers inc.com
For all your executive resume

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and job search needs. That's
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just find Linda lapad going on
they produce your list. John by

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Theo shoes

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Adam Curry: he did something
new. That was quite cute. I love

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how you abused your grandchild.
In the newsletter well done if

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you don't know what we're
talking about, you better

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subscribe to the newsletter all
kinds of good child abuse in

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their jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs,
jobs, jobs.

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Unknown: You got your karma. And
then

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Adam Curry: we have Leanne Webb
from Riverside, California. She

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is the wife of the OG God caster
sir Steve Webb Adam, I

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apologize. It's a little longer
than 250 characters. We've never

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I don't think that's our limit.
Our limit is like 50

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John C Dvorak: That's the Pay
Pal limit.

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Adam Curry: I think on mobile
says I just love and respect my

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02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:11,100
hobby so much I can't contain
myself I donated through your

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02:06:11,100 --> 02:06:13,860
donation website. Thank you for
putting up with me. Steve's

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birthday is August 19. So we've
seen the happiest birthday ever

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to sir oh gee God caster Steve
Webb. I think he may truthfully

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02:06:21,780 --> 02:06:25,080
he may truthfully be a baron but
I'm not sure what's in the title

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when you're my prince charming
and hold the keys to my heart.

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Everything else pales in
comparison to the joy you bring

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02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:34,860
to me it's burning inside of her
Steve, by truthfully could not

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survive survive this world
without you. I am blessed beyond

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02:06:37,500 --> 02:06:41,310
measure to have you to laugh
with love with pray with and

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02:06:41,310 --> 02:06:44,370
share the good and bad in life.
I love that we are still

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02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:47,370
learning new things about each
other and daily growing closer

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02:06:47,370 --> 02:06:50,970
to God together. I've really
enjoyed our 38 years of

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courtship and had never had a
fight. Could you give him

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02:06:53,940 --> 02:06:57,960
anything by Reverend owl? I pray
God brings you a fabulous year

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ahead. You deserve it. You
deserve the best and I'm devoted

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to you your lovely lady Leanne.
Oh, isn't that just nice? Yes, I

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02:07:05,550 --> 02:07:08,850
think we should do well since
you brought it up. Why don't we

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02:07:08,850 --> 02:07:12,420
do a little respect? Everybody
can use some of that

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02:07:16,950 --> 02:07:18,390
Unknown: DSP ICT

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Adam Curry: throw in a
gratuitous go for him. You've

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got now that wraps up our
executive and Associate

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Executive Producer as John said
it's a little light all eight of

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02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:32,280
them. Yeah. So he's gonna take
us through to the 50s and then

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we'll get into our night things
and go and our meetups etc.

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John C Dvorak: We're going to
start with Erie Kia i A Kia ragi

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in Prague, Oklahoma. No and it's
a switcheroo this for Brian.

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02:07:46,170 --> 02:07:51,030
Mickey Super Daddy for five
gatos celebrate his birthday and

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02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:58,050
we got him on the list. Alberta
Peter. urine. Ver Hi. You're

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enduring you're

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Adam Curry: a Netherlands.
You're not urine.

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John C Dvorak: urine. Urine
urine. Sir, and he is 133 33

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Dame Jennifer Northfield
Massachusetts 122 dot 23

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Switcheroo for Sir Paul of the
command line.

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Adam Curry: There you go.

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John C Dvorak: It was a happy
birthday. When did Dame Jennifer

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moved to Northfield,
Massachusetts.

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Adam Curry: We have more
Jennifer's

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02:08:31,530 --> 02:08:33,630
John C Dvorak: Oh as we do we
have a lot of Jennifer's this is

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02:08:33,630 --> 02:08:39,000
true. Deborah mascus in
Winnipeg, California 133 30 And

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02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:43,230
she sent a note a Cardian That
was cute. I want to at least

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02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:49,440
bring it up because she she
clipped off a nice 45 cent

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02:08:49,470 --> 02:08:53,880
Canadian stamp that she says to
replace the Australian stamp you

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02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:57,660
accidentally ruined you're the
only person I know that would

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02:08:57,660 --> 02:09:01,950
love this stamp and she says his
crazy stamp candidates like

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people wrestling or something
against the background of a of a

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02:09:06,510 --> 02:09:08,970
red moon and again a maple leaf

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02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:11,220
Adam Curry: guy didn't resign
and I didn't get the stamp on I

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02:09:11,220 --> 02:09:11,910
got the note

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02:09:13,980 --> 02:09:16,950
John C Dvorak: more than okay
well anyways thanks for give us

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02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:20,250
an island of calm in the sea of
insanity she writes that you go

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02:09:22,170 --> 02:09:25,050
sir foam finger number one is
backwards from Louisville

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02:09:25,050 --> 02:09:31,800
Kentucky honor $11.11 Lucas
Williams Roswell, New Mexico 100

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02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:38,640
bucks. Sir Paul in Twickenham,
Middlesex UK 99. And he's got a

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02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:41,760
birthday call for himself. Kevin
McLaughlin is up next from

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Concord, North Carolina with the
boob donation of 808. And he is

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promoting today. Banana melons.
That's banana melons, but that's

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your mode. There you go. Alan
graves in milkers, Minnesota Oh

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02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:04,890
808 Now there you go. Good name
for a town for the 808 donation.

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Kevin McLaughlin is back already
for 606 and here he is promoting

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02:10:13,170 --> 02:10:21,870
select rocket melons, select
rocket melons, Audrey Aubrey

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Aubrey barns in Fayetteville
Arkansas 606 Penn douching

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you've been de deuced Andrew
Edwards in Niceville, Florida

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02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:40,590
Niceville with 5678 and as a
birthday call out, Adam Wayne

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and Copperas Cove. Kapoor is
Cove, Texas. This is another

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birthday shout out to defy 55
for the smokin hot dame of the

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absurd. James Edmondson South
Plainfield, New Jersey 5510.

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Edward Richard butter in London,
UK 5510 Christina Hines and

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Manchester New Hampshire. 5123
Bob Butler in coming Georgia

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5069 You missed my donation from
last Thursday. I'm still

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counting it for my knighthood.
Sure. And then he comes in with

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another 5069 That's where we
missed it because it came at the

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same time that you're 5069 for
Bob Butler, Christian Freeman,

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San Marcos, Texas 50 on the rest
of these 50s There's not that

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many Kevin deals in Huntersville
North Carolina Michael Thompson

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in new brown fells Texas.
Phillip blue in Louisville,

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02:11:37,140 --> 02:11:41,100
Kentucky big pop up production.
Big popper productions in

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Minneapolis. Michael perote
Pyro, parrot in Salem, Oregon,

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Kelly McNeil in Mission Hills
Kansas, easy landscapes in North

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Stonington Connecticut, Chris
Lewinsky in Sherwood Park,

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Alberta, Crystal richer in pilot
point, Texas, Nathan Cochran in

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02:12:05,610 --> 02:12:11,670
Franklin Tennessee. Steven Chu
Mach in Xenia Ohio is still with

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02:12:11,670 --> 02:12:18,030
us. Peter odo in rich New York.
Jason pulse Joan I'm sorry,

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Joan. Hello Joan pulse in
Hernando Beach, California,

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Florida, or Nando Beach,
Florida. Got Jana Prince in

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Hollywood, Florida, Rose
Richardson and Oracle Arizona

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02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:36,870
John Catalina and house springs,
Missouri and last on the list is

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02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:40,920
Jason de Lucio in Miami Beach,
Florida. And,

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02:12:41,070 --> 02:12:43,890
Adam Curry: and we thank
everyone who came in under $50

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02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:46,620
For reasons of anonymity or
perhaps you're on one of the

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many sustaining donations they
do help in these days of the dog

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02:12:51,210 --> 02:12:54,420
days of summer with lighter
donation lists and we are very

2327
02:12:54,420 --> 02:12:57,690
appreciative of that. And if
you'd like to become a producer

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02:12:57,690 --> 02:13:00,330
of the no agenda show or an
executive or Associate Executive

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02:13:00,330 --> 02:13:03,060
Producer and have one of those
fancy titles go here

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Unknown: for red.org/and again
for

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02:13:06,990 --> 02:13:12,300
Adam Curry: supporting us for
episode 1582 Our formula is this

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02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:15,510
we go out we had people in the
mouth

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02:13:35,010 --> 02:13:38,130
of now we do have quite a list
of birthdays or Michael Madico

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02:13:38,130 --> 02:13:41,880
turns 50 on the 16th Sir Paul of
the command line celebrate on

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02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:47,370
the 16th Sir Miko mighty Cole my
ATM yeah man Madico wishes his

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02:13:47,370 --> 02:13:51,390
son Mason a happy birthday on
the 18th Sir William wishes Dame

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02:13:51,390 --> 02:13:54,480
DC girl of Alexandria Virginia
Happy birthday she also

2338
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,360
celebrates on the agent that's
all tomorrow. Sir Michael is

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02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,990
back with his dad Jerry Happy
Birthday on the 19th Leanne Webb

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02:14:00,990 --> 02:14:04,410
of course wishes sir OG God cast
receive web a happy birthday on

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02:14:04,410 --> 02:14:09,630
the 19th Eric keerai says Happy
Birthday to Brian Mickey on the

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02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:15,030
19th Caitlin will be turning 19
on August 24. And Caitlin wishes

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02:14:15,030 --> 02:14:19,020
her mom Jessica a happy birthday
turning 45 on the 25th Sir

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02:14:19,020 --> 02:14:22,140
quickly is turning 33 Dame
Jennifer says Happy birthday

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02:14:22,140 --> 02:14:25,710
this year Paula the command line
Andrew Edwards wishes Kirsty

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02:14:25,740 --> 02:14:28,950
Christie a happy birthday and
Adam Wayne says Happy Birthday

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02:14:28,950 --> 02:14:32,190
to Dame of the absurd and we say
happy birthday to all of these

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02:14:32,190 --> 02:14:35,340
people on behalf of the staff
and management of the no agenda

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02:14:35,340 --> 02:14:41,340
show. We of course do not have
any title changes but we do have

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02:14:41,340 --> 02:14:45,720
two nights and we gladly pull
out I have a Spanish blade a

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02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:52,590
girl from the Inquisition. Here
we go. Up on stage please sir.

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02:14:53,820 --> 02:14:59,880
See, Cesar Baptista There we go.
says your buff Tista answer was

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02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,730
Gentleman both of you have
supported the no agenda show in

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the amount of $1,000 or more I'm
very, very pleased and proud to

2355
02:15:06,540 --> 02:15:10,230
pronounce the king D has sir
grips a lot of the righty

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tighty. And Ed musel. Become sir
was Ed. Gentlemen, welcome to

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the no agenda roundtable for
you. We've got hookers and blow

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rent boys in short name. We got
some weird ones like right

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mandrem Bananas and Kuya De La
Hoya Coldstone from tri City

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Brewing Giant Slayer would be
the kind and of course you've

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02:15:29,130 --> 02:15:32,580
also got some mutton and Mead
lined up for you know as we

2362
02:15:32,580 --> 02:15:35,520
always do, and while you feast
on that if you want by the way

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we also have some ginger ale and
dribbles. Go over to no agenda

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rings.com You can see the
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there. All you have to do is
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that with the handy Ring Ring a
sizer on the website and sending

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you the address so that we can
send that off to you. Anyone can

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go and take a look at these
rings they are exclusively for

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no agenda nights and for dame's
more information is always to be

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02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:02,370
found at devora.org/and a thank
you very much for supporting the

2371
02:16:02,370 --> 02:16:03,990
best podcast in the universe

2372
02:16:13,380 --> 02:16:17,130
the perfect accoutrement that
you need to have with your no

2373
02:16:17,130 --> 02:16:19,950
agenda show it's an accessory
it's something that just has to

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02:16:19,950 --> 02:16:23,040
be a part of your daily life
your monthly life you need to

2375
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:26,550
attend a no agenda meetup at
least once and once you go it's

2376
02:16:26,550 --> 02:16:29,700
like potato chips you cannot
stop you will want to go over

2377
02:16:29,700 --> 02:16:34,200
and over again. As is witnessed
by the 2023 central Texas float

2378
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:37,680
meet up once again. Lots of
people came floated and met up

2379
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:40,980
Unknown: in the morning get my
nation doing it and post Adam we

2380
02:16:40,980 --> 02:16:43,980
missed you and Tina we will
definitely be looking forward to

2381
02:16:43,980 --> 02:16:47,160
our next meetup to see your
shining happy faces is

2382
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:49,770
it running from local fire as
well Sandra that we were rolling

2383
02:16:49,770 --> 02:16:52,260
on the river or Eric from
Dallas,

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02:16:52,260 --> 02:16:54,090
Texas. In the morning. Thank

2385
02:16:54,090 --> 02:16:58,410
you to producer Eric who woke up
on time because he didn't go to

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02:16:58,410 --> 02:16:59,760
sleep. This

2387
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:03,780
is Psalms kipi with a Y coming
to you from a no agenda meet up

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02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:06,300
in the evening y'all and in the
morning. Taylor

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02:17:06,300 --> 02:17:09,900
Park from Cali here I'm here
with my smokin hot girlfriend

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02:17:09,900 --> 02:17:14,490
and I am over and formed and
under socialized. This is our

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02:17:14,490 --> 02:17:16,680
center and I'm having a great
time

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02:17:16,860 --> 02:17:19,560
in the morning. This is Cynthia
in San Marcos.

2393
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:20,759
Greg here from Greta

2394
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:22,830
Adam Curry: in the morning
everybody here at the no agenda

2395
02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:23,790
meetup in San

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02:17:23,790 --> 02:17:28,290
Unknown: Marcos at the rail yard
is a sarcastic mass from Dallas.

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02:17:28,290 --> 02:17:32,370
I'm so glad I floated on down to
the rail yard trains good plains

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02:17:32,370 --> 02:17:32,820
bad

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02:17:33,690 --> 02:17:36,690
in the morning. This is Sarah
Shona and coming down from Fort

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Worth to go on the river. Hey,
it's

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02:17:38,580 --> 02:17:40,950
Adam Curry: Baronet is Mary
Brett here. I didn't get to go

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02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:43,350
on the flow. But I came here to
meet everybody. Thanks for your

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02:17:43,350 --> 02:17:45,120
courage. Chris

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02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:47,610
Unknown: from Mulago farm had
the best meet up on the river

2405
02:17:47,610 --> 02:17:49,980
today Scott was the leader and I
was the tail

2406
02:17:54,209 --> 02:17:57,029
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. The
slogan connection is protection.

2407
02:17:57,299 --> 02:18:00,209
And if you want to connect to be
to get some protect, you can

2408
02:18:00,209 --> 02:18:03,809
still head off to the Mile High
meet up at the Denver Museum of

2409
02:18:03,809 --> 02:18:07,049
Nature and Science. They'll be
meeting today at 630 Charlotte's

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02:18:07,049 --> 02:18:10,859
Thursday, Third Thursday, seven
o'clock tonight and you can have

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02:18:11,459 --> 02:18:15,479
your pee checked by by the bio
people in Charlotte, North

2412
02:18:15,479 --> 02:18:19,109
Carolina at Ed's tavern. On
Saturday. The skeptical weirdos

2413
02:18:19,109 --> 02:18:24,989
of Maui will get together at 11
o'clock Hawaii time at LUNA poco

2414
02:18:24,989 --> 02:18:31,139
beach park that's in West Maui
and the sea the park is selected

2415
02:18:31,139 --> 02:18:34,919
in West Maui near the fire zone
not sure if the event is on.

2416
02:18:35,609 --> 02:18:38,429
Maybe check uh, no agenda
meetup.com Just to make sure

2417
02:18:38,459 --> 02:18:41,819
that everything's copacetic with
that. Also on Saturday in the

2418
02:18:41,819 --> 02:18:45,989
morning, Richmond noon, 1230 at
Strangeways brewing in Richmond,

2419
02:18:45,989 --> 02:18:50,969
Virginia. The lowlands meet up.
That will be oh, this is the

2420
02:18:50,969 --> 02:18:53,579
Netherlands. Oh, it's a big
festival, the lowlands and the

2421
02:18:53,579 --> 02:18:57,359
no agenda slaves will be meeting
up at the alpha stage. That's in

2422
02:18:57,359 --> 02:19:00,719
bidding housing in flavor along
the Netherlands at 1230

2423
02:19:00,899 --> 02:19:04,229
Greenwich Mean Time, just to
make it more complicated. Check

2424
02:19:04,229 --> 02:19:07,229
no agenda meetups.com to make
sure that will be cool though,

2425
02:19:07,229 --> 02:19:10,829
because the lowlands is like a
big multi day festival. Also on

2426
02:19:10,829 --> 02:19:14,399
Saturday, the Fort Worth monthly
the one o'clock it flips Patio

2427
02:19:14,399 --> 02:19:20,339
Grill fort with Fort Worth,
Texas. The OKC oh yeah Hui

2428
02:19:20,339 --> 02:19:24,629
Southside one o'clock at the
garage. I 240 in Oklahoma City,

2429
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:28,589
Oklahoma. Also on Saturday. It's
like a pool party and Rhode

2430
02:19:28,589 --> 02:19:33,899
Island 130 location by RSVP only
the home of Lady butters in

2431
02:19:33,899 --> 02:19:36,509
Rhode Island and you might want
to RSVP for that one. The

2432
02:19:36,509 --> 02:19:38,939
shrunken Eleague amygdala
support group meets at two

2433
02:19:38,939 --> 02:19:42,569
o'clock at task group corium in
Cincinnati, Ohio on Saturday,

2434
02:19:42,809 --> 02:19:46,529
and the South Carolina MidState.
Where are you meet up at 330 in

2435
02:19:46,529 --> 02:19:50,879
bar Figaro in Newberry, South
Carolina. Flight of the no

2436
02:19:50,879 --> 02:19:55,469
agenda meetup number 43 trains
good plains bad 333 home bound

2437
02:19:55,469 --> 02:19:59,369
brew house in Los Angeles,
California. Leo Bravo of course

2438
02:19:59,369 --> 02:20:02,459
hosting that Spot the spook as
well on Saturday five o'clock,

2439
02:20:02,579 --> 02:20:06,179
the West End grill in
Huntsville, Alabama. The Super

2440
02:20:06,179 --> 02:20:12,479
uPAR monthly bash 5pm Jack Pine
lodge in Manistee, Michigan. And

2441
02:20:12,479 --> 02:20:17,669
the last one on the list is
Sunday the 20th that will be the

2442
02:20:17,669 --> 02:20:21,269
don't draw me Santa Fe meetup.
Oh of course with the suggest

2443
02:20:21,269 --> 02:20:24,719
tow picture Jeff towing hosting,
and that is at the Second Street

2444
02:20:24,719 --> 02:20:27,809
Brewery in Santa Fe in New
Mexico. And I believe I have a

2445
02:20:27,809 --> 02:20:28,679
promo here.

2446
02:20:30,390 --> 02:20:33,690
Unknown: Ready the shrink wrap
your amygdala on Saturday,

2447
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:38,220
August 26. In Safety Harbor,
Florida, free speech will flow

2448
02:20:38,220 --> 02:20:42,510
from three to 6pm at giggle
waters Social Club hosted by the

2449
02:20:42,510 --> 02:20:47,010
one and only Dame bully steed
all knights games and even

2450
02:20:47,010 --> 02:20:51,990
douchebags are encouraged to
RSVP today at no agenda

2451
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:53,250
meetups.com

2452
02:20:54,450 --> 02:20:57,570
Adam Curry: No no agenda meetups
connection is protection go to

2453
02:20:57,570 --> 02:21:00,960
no agenda meetups.com to find
out when one is going to be held

2454
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,320
near you. If you can't find one
near you. Start one yourself.

2455
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:07,050
It's easy and always guaranteed
apart nice and

2456
02:21:10,290 --> 02:21:22,380
Unknown: nice day. Won't be able
to be everybody feels the same.

2457
02:21:24,450 --> 02:21:30,720
Adam Curry: It's like what are
you yammering about? Hello? Oh,

2458
02:21:31,170 --> 02:21:35,790
did I lose? You? know I'm here.
Oh, okay. That was weird. You

2459
02:21:35,790 --> 02:21:39,960
John C Dvorak: went dead. I went
dead. And then you deal with

2460
02:21:39,960 --> 02:21:41,190
somebody yammering.

2461
02:21:41,550 --> 02:21:45,810
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. I
don't know. Did I go dead? Did I

2462
02:21:45,810 --> 02:21:50,280
go did that I thought I heard
you yammering in the background.

2463
02:21:51,390 --> 02:21:52,680
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know what you're hearing, but it

2464
02:21:52,680 --> 02:21:54,390
wasn't me. Oh, well. There's

2465
02:21:54,390 --> 02:21:57,390
Adam Curry: something else.
Okay. It's hard to tell.

2466
02:21:57,570 --> 02:22:00,420
Whenever I hear something
yammering. I presume it's you.

2467
02:22:02,310 --> 02:22:05,040
John C Dvorak: I think that's a
reasonable presumption. But no,

2468
02:22:05,310 --> 02:22:08,520
Adam Curry: no, not this talk. I
have a question. Let's talk

2469
02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:12,720
about Maui for a second.
Firstly, do ISOs No, I'm sorry.

2470
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:15,930
You're right. Do I Do I Do even
I do have ISOs I think I got a

2471
02:22:15,930 --> 02:22:16,980
lot of ISOs.

2472
02:22:18,780 --> 02:22:20,940
John C Dvorak: Paul, I do want
to tell you about Maui. Yeah,

2473
02:22:20,970 --> 02:22:22,830
because the new the new book.

2474
02:22:23,640 --> 02:22:24,900
Adam Curry: What are your ISOs?

2475
02:22:26,040 --> 02:22:27,570
John C Dvorak: What are yours?
Okay,

2476
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:33,150
Adam Curry: I'll go first. I
have this 100% lately. Okay. I

2477
02:22:33,150 --> 02:22:37,350
have this one. It was a pleasure
eating bugs with you. Okay.

2478
02:22:38,880 --> 02:22:42,240
John C Dvorak: That was a part.
That is incredibly good news.

2479
02:22:42,330 --> 02:22:46,590
Adam Curry: Okay. And I have
thank you for talking. Yeah, I

2480
02:22:46,590 --> 02:22:50,790
thought that was a good one.
beat that.

2481
02:22:51,300 --> 02:22:54,090
John C Dvorak: Well enough. I
can no matter strappy but I do

2482
02:22:54,090 --> 02:23:00,240
have three. Okay. Let's start
with the reasons. Reasons

2483
02:23:00,270 --> 02:23:01,860
Unknown: for those reasons were
out.

2484
02:23:03,450 --> 02:23:06,780
John C Dvorak: From Shark Tank.
No, actually, it was from a

2485
02:23:06,780 --> 02:23:16,890
podcast. Oh, really? This one
get a job. Okay. Okay, then move

2486
02:23:16,890 --> 02:23:19,110
on. Move on. No, I

2487
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:23,670
Adam Curry: don't think you can
beat my my hair which I think

2488
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:27,120
this one. Thank you for talking.
I think that's just too good.

2489
02:23:27,150 --> 02:23:28,410
That's not the other one was
better.

2490
02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:33,450
Unknown: Okay, this one. That is
incredibly good news.

2491
02:23:34,770 --> 02:23:38,310
Adam Curry: That one, our whole
show is incredibly good nose.

2492
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:42,030
All right. Yeah. You want to
talk about the book. This book

2493
02:23:42,030 --> 02:23:43,620
is bullsh bullcrap,

2494
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:46,560
John C Dvorak: obviously is
bullshit. I got a note from one

2495
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:48,330
of our producers is a book
writer.

2496
02:23:48,390 --> 02:23:51,630
Adam Curry: Got it. Let me just
let me just set this up. So a

2497
02:23:51,630 --> 02:23:57,150
book shows up on Amazon. And I
have it here and the call

2498
02:23:57,150 --> 02:24:00,150
John C Dvorak: I had right here
fire and fury, the story of the

2499
02:24:00,150 --> 02:24:04,770
2023 Maui fire and its
implications for climate change.

2500
02:24:04,770 --> 02:24:04,860
And

2501
02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:07,590
Adam Curry: I just point out one
glaring thing that no one has

2502
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:10,860
really mentioned. It's 44 pages.

2503
02:24:11,250 --> 02:24:14,550
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's a it is
a Kindle book.

2504
02:24:14,610 --> 02:24:18,990
Adam Curry: It's a giblet it's
not it's it's a blog post. Yeah,

2505
02:24:18,990 --> 02:24:21,000
John C Dvorak: it probably is.
But this guy's irked about

2506
02:24:21,030 --> 02:24:24,150
producer Paul says I've written
20 books and ever had one

2507
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:27,510
written edited bound in one day
before the event covered ended

2508
02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:33,960
the fire was still going with
his book comes out Yeah, that

2509
02:24:33,960 --> 02:24:37,260
was but it is it is a Kindle
book. It's not really bound.

2510
02:24:37,770 --> 02:24:38,310
Okay,

2511
02:24:38,310 --> 02:24:42,150
Adam Curry: well you wouldn't
expect that but the but what I

2512
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:45,750
think what's so interesting
about this event, but first of

2513
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:49,410
all, it's a horrific event. It's
much worse than than then we

2514
02:24:49,410 --> 02:24:55,140
know it is. That I think is
really really really bad. But

2515
02:24:55,140 --> 02:24:59,190
there's they threw in this
conspiracy stuff so quickly.

2516
02:24:59,670 --> 02:25:05,430
That It's really removed the
entire focus on on the blame.

2517
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:09,810
You know, it's like, oh, the
directed energy weapons and no,

2518
02:25:09,810 --> 02:25:14,160
come on. It was so this is it's
so obvious once you take a look

2519
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:20,130
at it that yes, no one really
minded that this burned down

2520
02:25:20,490 --> 02:25:23,190
because they've been I think
they've been looking at this

2521
02:25:23,190 --> 02:25:27,480
beautiful Maori landscape for a
long time but they throw in all

2522
02:25:27,480 --> 02:25:31,140
this directed energy weapons
stuff just to, you know to call

2523
02:25:31,140 --> 02:25:32,580
everybody does

2524
02:25:32,580 --> 02:25:35,910
John C Dvorak: because
Republicans are stupid Oh,

2525
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:39,570
that's just too much it's more
of the same you know to make the

2526
02:25:39,570 --> 02:25:42,690
Republicans look like but it's
all Republicans obviously no no

2527
02:25:42,690 --> 02:25:46,110
Democrat would ever think such a
thing oh let's claim that it's

2528
02:25:46,140 --> 02:25:49,680
okay, that's my guess here's my
Maui update.

2529
02:25:51,180 --> 02:25:54,480
Unknown: And next The death toll
from the Maui wildfires climbs

2530
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:58,110
to 106 and the Biden
administration and now promising

2531
02:25:58,110 --> 02:26:01,020
a full reimbursement for some
emergency work

2532
02:26:01,170 --> 02:26:04,470
that he has approved the
governor's request for 100%

2533
02:26:04,470 --> 02:26:07,980
reimbursement for the emergency
work that's being done for a

2534
02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:11,610
period of 30 days within the
first 120 days at the governor's

2535
02:26:11,610 --> 02:26:12,270
choosing.

2536
02:26:12,540 --> 02:26:15,330
It's been a week since the
wildfire began in Maui. The

2537
02:26:15,330 --> 02:26:18,930
blaze traveled from grasslands
all the way into popular tourist

2538
02:26:18,930 --> 02:26:22,530
destination behind 2200
buildings burned down in a

2539
02:26:22,530 --> 02:26:25,410
matter of hours, and the scale
of the damage is becoming

2540
02:26:25,410 --> 02:26:29,250
clearer as search and rescue
continues to rebuild Lahaina

2541
02:26:29,250 --> 02:26:32,970
FEMA said that the estimated
cost could total up to $5.5

2542
02:26:32,970 --> 02:26:37,260
billion. What are conditions
like there now? A highway into

2543
02:26:37,260 --> 02:26:41,490
line are reopened at 6am. local
time today, allowing residents

2544
02:26:41,490 --> 02:26:45,480
and first responders back in for
the first time communication

2545
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:48,930
remains difficult, as much of
the electricity is still off.

2546
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,980
Although power companies set its
back for about 80% of the

2547
02:26:52,980 --> 02:26:56,580
island. A small aircraft flew
along the coast using

2548
02:26:56,580 --> 02:27:00,570
loudspeaker to tell people where
to get water and supplies. But

2549
02:27:00,570 --> 02:27:02,850
folks on the island are
questioning the state's

2550
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:06,630
emergency notification system.
Siren stationed around the

2551
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:09,300
island never sounded. Okay.

2552
02:27:09,390 --> 02:27:12,120
Adam Curry: So I will pick it up
there. I've done I've had a lot

2553
02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:20,970
of time to look at this. And the
Maori chief did a little chat.

2554
02:27:20,970 --> 02:27:25,170
This is very, very interesting
people. There's a lot. Okay, let

2555
02:27:25,170 --> 02:27:29,190
me step back for one second.
There's a lot of Hawaiian being

2556
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:33,150
spoken. And to me, a lot of it
is virtue signaling and I'm a

2557
02:27:33,150 --> 02:27:36,450
little sick of it. You know,
it's all like where's your

2558
02:27:36,450 --> 02:27:39,930
Aloha? Where's your where's your
Malacca? Maka? locka? And

2559
02:27:39,930 --> 02:27:42,030
everyone's everyone who does
that? I don't understand

2560
02:27:42,060 --> 02:27:45,690
Hawaiian. And everyone's doing
this. And by the way, where's

2561
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:49,620
Where's Tulsi Gabbard? Haven't
heard from her. She hasn't come

2562
02:27:49,620 --> 02:27:52,500
out and said anything yet. But
of course interesting. Obama

2563
02:27:52,500 --> 02:27:58,410
comes out. Oh, so he lived I'm
sorry. Obama comes out. I just

2564
02:27:58,410 --> 02:28:02,400
slipped there. So Obama comes
cute. Yeah. And now he

2565
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:06,210
apparently lives in Hawaii
growing up. And he does a whole

2566
02:28:06,210 --> 02:28:08,340
bunch of this stuff. Hello. Hi,
everybody.

2567
02:28:09,330 --> 02:28:12,150
Unknown: Like so many people
around the world. Michelle and I

2568
02:28:12,150 --> 02:28:16,020
have been absolutely heartbroken
by the devastating images coming

2569
02:28:16,020 --> 02:28:22,290
out of Maui and Lahaina over the
last week. As someone who grew

2570
02:28:22,290 --> 02:28:29,100
up in Hawaii, is someone who has
taken my family to enjoy that

2571
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:33,450
incredible beauty of that island
and the hospitality of the

2572
02:28:33,450 --> 02:28:40,290
people in liner. We now find
ourselves mourning the lives

2573
02:28:40,290 --> 02:28:42,510
that are lost in our thoughts
and prayers go out to the

2574
02:28:42,510 --> 02:28:47,280
families that have lost so much.
The thing about it is though

2575
02:28:47,310 --> 02:28:49,590
thoughts and prayers in the
moment like this are not enough.

2576
02:28:49,830 --> 02:28:54,990
Yeah, we have to step up. And we
have to have to help the hyena

2577
02:28:55,290 --> 02:28:59,520
rebuilt. And the good news is is
that the white Red Cross and

2578
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:01,680
Malama Maui are mobilizing

2579
02:29:01,710 --> 02:29:03,720
Adam Curry: what's Mallanna
Maui. Have you heard of Mallanna

2580
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:08,640
Maui. So this was such a crappy
video horrible sound. He looks

2581
02:29:08,820 --> 02:29:12,300
like crap. And then he's
mentioning these native Hawaiian

2582
02:29:12,330 --> 02:29:15,120
Red Cross. Okay, but he's
mentioned Mallanna how Mawi I've

2583
02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:17,730
never heard of this. There's no
lower third nothing to

2584
02:29:17,730 --> 02:29:22,260
Unknown: provide direct support
to people who have no idea who

2585
02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:23,610
are desperately

2586
02:29:23,610 --> 02:29:24,840
John C Dvorak: sounds like a
hotel.

2587
02:29:26,490 --> 02:29:29,340
Unknown: To do everything you
can to generously support the

2588
02:29:29,340 --> 02:29:33,750
Malala. Malia for mulawa. Maui
is all of us. The Ohana pulled

2589
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:39,390
together, using Hawaiian words
do as much as we can Mahana to

2590
02:29:39,390 --> 02:29:44,520
give back to an island and a
town and people who have given

2591
02:29:44,520 --> 02:29:51,300
us so much. I'm absolutely
confident that Lahaina and Maui

2592
02:29:51,660 --> 02:29:55,950
and those families are going to
be able to rebuild. But we've

2593
02:29:55,950 --> 02:29:59,970
got to be a part of that. So
please, provide generous support

2594
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,580
To the wire Red Cross and to
Malama mouth right now. Mahalo.

2595
02:30:07,109 --> 02:30:09,959
Adam Curry: Okay. So now we get
the Maui chief, you'll hear some

2596
02:30:09,959 --> 02:30:14,159
more of this Aloha business, the
Maui chief who did not sound the

2597
02:30:14,159 --> 02:30:15,719
alarm. He does not agree.

2598
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:19,230
John C Dvorak: Can I just throw
a weird thing? And did you know

2599
02:30:19,230 --> 02:30:22,320
that the police chief for Maui
was the same police chief that

2600
02:30:22,320 --> 02:30:25,590
was in Las Vegas during that
shooting thing from the hotel?

2601
02:30:25,620 --> 02:30:26,010
Yes,

2602
02:30:26,040 --> 02:30:29,010
Adam Curry: I do know that.
That's, you know, and so what

2603
02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:33,450
you what you need to say after
that, John is coincidence? I

2604
02:30:33,450 --> 02:30:39,750
think not. That's, I mean, yeah,
he was there in 2017. I think

2605
02:30:39,750 --> 02:30:42,780
yeah, I'm just saying I just
thought that was, I know, I

2606
02:30:42,780 --> 02:30:46,530
know. But this is a real
disaster. And I'm the first guy

2607
02:30:46,530 --> 02:30:50,220
to say directed energy weapon if
it's true. I'm the first guy to

2608
02:30:50,220 --> 02:30:54,150
come out with any conspiracy
theory. It's true. Yeah. Oh,

2609
02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:58,380
yeah. Well, this directed energy
weapons are real. This is this

2610
02:30:58,380 --> 02:31:03,960
is not this case. This was this
is very, very clearly caused by

2611
02:31:03,960 --> 02:31:05,490
power lines. Tonight,

2612
02:31:05,490 --> 02:31:07,650
Unknown: search teams in LA
hyena continue their

2613
02:31:07,650 --> 02:31:11,970
Heartbreaking Work already more
than 100 bodies found, and

2614
02:31:11,970 --> 02:31:15,450
they're still looking for the
last what was once a paradise is

2615
02:31:15,450 --> 02:31:18,870
now a mass grave. While the
cause of the blaze is still

2616
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:22,080
being investigated. There's
increasing scrutiny on Hawaiian

2617
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:26,280
Electric data from whisker labs,
a private company that monitors

2618
02:31:26,280 --> 02:31:30,300
the grid through a network of
sensors shows 34 major

2619
02:31:30,330 --> 02:31:33,720
electrical incidents on the
power lines around the highnam,

2620
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:34,410
literally

2621
02:31:34,410 --> 02:31:38,400
dozens and dozens of faults
occurring over that several hour

2622
02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:43,620
period overnight, any one of
which could cause a arc fault

2623
02:31:43,830 --> 02:31:46,200
that would cause and sparked a
wildfire.

2624
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:49,260
Hawaiian Electric didn't
specifically address that data

2625
02:31:49,290 --> 02:31:52,710
or the multiple lawsuits but
said in part, we know there is

2626
02:31:52,710 --> 02:31:56,280
speculation about what started
the fire. But the cause is

2627
02:31:56,280 --> 02:31:57,750
hasn't been determined. This

2628
02:31:57,750 --> 02:32:00,480
was a preventable circumstance.
Grim

2629
02:32:00,480 --> 02:32:03,240
lips Smith is one of the
attorneys who filed suit against

2630
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:04,140
the utility, the

2631
02:32:04,140 --> 02:32:08,670
altra hazardous activity was
keeping the power running during

2632
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:10,920
this very serious wind event.

2633
02:32:10,980 --> 02:32:15,120
But Hawaiian Electric CEO told
me they don't have a program for

2634
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:16,680
shutting off power, it can

2635
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:21,030
be seen as creating a hardship
for those customers that have

2636
02:32:21,480 --> 02:32:24,960
medical needs in Lahaina, the
electricity powers, the pumps

2637
02:32:24,960 --> 02:32:29,550
that provide the water. And so
that was also a critical me

2638
02:32:29,550 --> 02:32:30,300
during that time

2639
02:32:30,330 --> 02:32:32,610
shutting off the power wasn't an
option and just understand what

2640
02:32:32,610 --> 02:32:33,000
you're saying.

2641
02:32:33,060 --> 02:32:37,800
There are choices that need to
be made. And all of those

2642
02:32:37,800 --> 02:32:39,150
factors play into it.

2643
02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:42,060
Adam Curry: I think that's a
pretty good report, even though

2644
02:32:42,060 --> 02:32:48,480
it's from NBC. It seemed that
seems reasonable to me. And we

2645
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:51,660
have a lot of producers who have
been made emailing me boots on

2646
02:32:51,660 --> 02:32:55,260
the ground, a lot of a lot of
producers. So this is why I'm

2647
02:32:55,260 --> 02:32:58,230
just not going to go into all
the conspiracy stuff and you can

2648
02:32:58,230 --> 02:33:02,460
stop emailing me about it. And
but there was more. This was

2649
02:33:02,460 --> 02:33:07,770
complete mismanagement, complete
stupidity, including the entire

2650
02:33:08,130 --> 02:33:10,230
Emergency Management Agency.
Tonight

2651
02:33:10,230 --> 02:33:12,810
Unknown: we're learning shocking
new details that reveal Maui

2652
02:33:12,810 --> 02:33:15,990
residents aren't just dealing
with a monumental natural

2653
02:33:15,990 --> 02:33:21,360
disaster, but also a disastrous
response. CDs News has learned

2654
02:33:21,360 --> 02:33:25,800
that Maui's emergency operations
chief had no disaster

2655
02:33:25,800 --> 02:33:28,680
experience. Well, why does that
matter? Because it's his

2656
02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:31,440
department that's responsible
for setting off the warning

2657
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:35,010
sirens. For the first time since
the early hours of the tragedy,

2658
02:33:35,010 --> 02:33:38,610
the main Lahaina road is now
open, allowing residents to see

2659
02:33:38,610 --> 02:33:42,270
what's left. There are now at
least 40 cadaver dogs helping

2660
02:33:42,270 --> 02:33:45,480
with the search going block
after block of burned out homes

2661
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:48,030
and cars, looking for the
hundreds of people that are

2662
02:33:48,030 --> 02:33:51,420
still unaccounted for the White
House announcing today that the

2663
02:33:51,420 --> 02:33:54,990
President and First Lady will
travel to Maui on Monday to

2664
02:33:54,990 --> 02:33:58,110
survey the destruction and meet
with first responders and

2665
02:33:58,110 --> 02:33:59,190
survivors. By

2666
02:33:59,190 --> 02:34:00,930
Adam Curry: the way, I'd like to
point out that one of the

2667
02:34:00,930 --> 02:34:06,600
senators of Hawaii is that moron
Mazie Hirono. So no wonder the

2668
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:11,730
state's a mess. And so now we
get to the Maui chief, and he's

2669
02:34:11,730 --> 02:34:15,390
going to explain why there was
no siren that went off. Now

2670
02:34:15,390 --> 02:34:19,740
apparently they had cell phone
warnings, but that came very,

2671
02:34:19,740 --> 02:34:22,800
very late in the game, but he
does not regret it. Do you

2672
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:23,370
regret not

2673
02:34:23,370 --> 02:34:27,630
Unknown: sounding the sirens? I
do not. And the reason why and

2674
02:34:27,630 --> 02:34:30,360
so many people said they could
have been saved if they have

2675
02:34:31,650 --> 02:34:33,420
John C Dvorak: this is the fire
chief or the chief of the

2676
02:34:33,420 --> 02:34:35,070
emergency response chief of the

2677
02:34:35,070 --> 02:34:39,210
Adam Curry: emergency response.
Okay, gone off. They wouldn't

2678
02:34:39,210 --> 02:34:42,720
have known that there was he was
in charge of the in charge of

2679
02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:46,440
the the sirens

2680
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:49,020
John C Dvorak: fine. Yeah. And
the report said he has zero

2681
02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:52,200
experience in his air arena.
Correct. And as we

2682
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:55,620
Unknown: know, so many bodies
were found in the ground. Do

2683
02:34:55,620 --> 02:34:58,680
Adam Curry: you want him to give
you the answer? This is some

2684
02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:02,940
dude who steps in Who is not in
uniform steps out from behind

2685
02:35:02,940 --> 02:35:05,970
the chief and says, Hey, you
want him to get the answer you

2686
02:35:05,970 --> 02:35:08,430
want to give you? Just numbering
Mahalo. Have

2687
02:35:08,430 --> 02:35:10,590
John C Dvorak: you ever that's
Governor Josh Green? Is

2688
02:35:10,590 --> 02:35:13,380
Adam Curry: that green? That
guy's Yeah, Dick, he's in the

2689
02:35:13,380 --> 02:35:19,530
ground. Do you want him to give
you the answer? Let him finish

2690
02:35:19,890 --> 02:35:24,450
his answer. All right. There's a
lot of people you're talking if

2691
02:35:24,450 --> 02:35:28,530
you want to talk come up here.
Ready for the answer? When we

2692
02:35:29,460 --> 02:35:32,190
Unknown: syringes I had
mentioned earlier, is used

2693
02:35:32,220 --> 02:35:36,240
primarily for tsunamis and
that's the reason why many of

2694
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:39,000
them are found almost all of
them are found on the coastline.

2695
02:35:40,050 --> 02:35:43,200
The public is trained to seek
higher ground in the event that

2696
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:45,780
the sermon is surrounded in
fact, on the website of the

2697
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:48,600
Hawaii Emergency Management
Agency. The following guideline

2698
02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:52,140
is provided. If you are in a low
lying area near the coastline,

2699
02:35:52,410 --> 02:35:56,010
evacuate to high grounds, and
then vertically to the fourth

2700
02:35:56,010 --> 02:35:59,730
floor and higher of a concrete
building alerts we also come in

2701
02:35:59,730 --> 02:36:03,660
the form of a wireless emergency
alert. Have you sorted the siren

2702
02:36:03,690 --> 02:36:07,470
that night? We're afraid that
people would have gotten Malka

2703
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:10,590
Malka, and if that was the case,
then they would have gone into

2704
02:36:10,590 --> 02:36:13,170
the fire. And so that is the
reason why.

2705
02:36:13,230 --> 02:36:15,780
Adam Curry: So what he's saying
mulk, I guess you saying is that

2706
02:36:15,780 --> 02:36:19,020
when people hear the siren, then
they immediately run for higher

2707
02:36:19,020 --> 02:36:22,320
ground because that means it's
tsunami and they only use it for

2708
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:25,800
tsunami by the way, you're gonna
get some other official stepping

2709
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:28,920
in and telling everybody that
better show some Aloha,

2710
02:36:28,980 --> 02:36:33,420
Unknown: our protocol has been
WA and EAS by the way, I should

2711
02:36:33,420 --> 02:36:37,710
also know that there are no
sirens Mocha, or on the mountain

2712
02:36:37,710 --> 02:36:41,970
side where the fire was
spreading down. So why not? The

2713
02:36:41,970 --> 02:36:45,630
Sun would not have saved those
people under the mountain side

2714
02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:46,590
Smolka

2715
02:36:48,180 --> 02:36:51,270
going into another friendly
reminder that we encourage aloha

2716
02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:55,410
and kindness again, we
appreciate the questions. But I

2717
02:36:55,410 --> 02:36:57,900
would encourage all of us to
operate under the values of

2718
02:36:57,900 --> 02:37:01,140
aloha and kindness. So as you're
asking the question, please

2719
02:37:01,140 --> 02:37:05,130
respect the speaker who is
responding and give them that

2720
02:37:05,130 --> 02:37:07,830
space just as they're giving you
the space for you to ask your

2721
02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:08,340
question.

2722
02:37:09,150 --> 02:37:11,850
Adam Curry: Please show some
Aloha kindness. Now. I don't

2723
02:37:11,850 --> 02:37:16,200
understand something here. He's
saying the sirens that means

2724
02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:19,200
that you know that's only for
tsunamis and we'd like giving

2725
02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:22,710
the emergency alerts. Well, I
wasn't born yesterday and I've

2726
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:27,120
been doing the show for a while.
And I remember that Hawaii had

2727
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:30,030
you sirens for something
completely different that was

2728
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:33,840
not tsunami related. They've got
giant giant voice systems

2729
02:37:36,390 --> 02:37:42,060
Unknown: it's the sound of peril
in paradise. Today for the first

2730
02:37:42,060 --> 02:37:44,040
time since the Cold War era,

2731
02:37:44,220 --> 02:37:48,900
a nuclear attack warning system
is active in Hawai Vern Miyagi

2732
02:37:48,900 --> 02:37:50,310
these teams are the triggers the

2733
02:37:50,310 --> 02:37:53,490
alarm situation with North Korea
and all the things that we've

2734
02:37:53,490 --> 02:37:54,480
been seeing over the past

2735
02:37:54,480 --> 02:37:56,550
Adam Curry: I don't have to play
the whole report, but they set

2736
02:37:56,550 --> 02:38:00,870
up a whole system and they had
that was backed up by the alerts

2737
02:38:00,870 --> 02:38:04,170
you remember that one was
triggered accidentally people

2738
02:38:04,170 --> 02:38:06,630
were freaking out they all went
to shelters,

2739
02:38:06,630 --> 02:38:09,750
John C Dvorak: companies that
were saying, this is bullcrap

2740
02:38:09,750 --> 02:38:10,050
this

2741
02:38:10,050 --> 02:38:12,780
Adam Curry: not sounding the
alarm, saying it's only for

2742
02:38:12,780 --> 02:38:16,650
tsunami doesn't make sense. I
may be wrong doesn't make sense

2743
02:38:16,650 --> 02:38:22,830
to me. Now to this governor
green. Now what what if the idea

2744
02:38:22,830 --> 02:38:26,820
was hey, you know if that thing
ever burns down one day, and it

2745
02:38:26,820 --> 02:38:31,230
burns every single year because
of poor management after the the

2746
02:38:31,890 --> 02:38:35,070
plantations were removed, and
they never say,

2747
02:38:35,460 --> 02:38:39,660
John C Dvorak: sugar cane crops
removed that fire controlled

2748
02:38:39,660 --> 02:38:40,620
birds were stopped.

2749
02:38:40,650 --> 02:38:44,550
Adam Curry: Same thing, the poor
management of the forest and

2750
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:50,160
Paradise, exactly the same type
of horrific results. So not with

2751
02:38:50,160 --> 02:38:55,890
just one just not doing that. If
the idea was to do that, you

2752
02:38:55,890 --> 02:38:58,860
know, once it burns, a little
brown, you know, and then we're

2753
02:38:58,860 --> 02:39:01,140
going to take care, we're going
to take over that land, and

2754
02:39:01,140 --> 02:39:04,560
we'll sell it off. I think
Governor green actually admits

2755
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:06,300
that in this clip, I'm already

2756
02:39:06,300 --> 02:39:08,850
Unknown: thinking about wait for
the state to acquire that land,

2757
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:11,640
so that we can put it into
workforce housing to put it back

2758
02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:15,000
into families, or to make it
open spaces in perpetuity as a

2759
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:19,350
memorial to people who were
lost. We want this to be

2760
02:39:19,380 --> 02:39:24,060
something that we remember,
after the pain passes, as a

2761
02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:28,470
magic slaves, and Johanna will
rebuild. The tragedy right now

2762
02:39:28,470 --> 02:39:31,590
is the loss of life. The
buildings can be rebuilt over

2763
02:39:31,590 --> 02:39:36,210
time, even the banyan tree may
survive. But we don't want this

2764
02:39:36,210 --> 02:39:42,390
to be a clear space where then
yes, people from overseas just

2765
02:39:42,390 --> 02:39:44,730
come and decide they're going to
take it stable, they can

2766
02:39:44,730 --> 02:39:45,540
preserve it first.

2767
02:39:46,920 --> 02:39:48,870
Adam Curry: So I think that
that's what's going to happen

2768
02:39:48,870 --> 02:39:51,330
the state will take over the
land because the insurance

2769
02:39:51,330 --> 02:39:55,770
companies are not going to pay
out. Maui fires come in a moment

2770
02:39:55,770 --> 02:39:58,830
of turmoil for the insurance
industry. The Hawaii had the

2771
02:39:58,830 --> 02:40:01,920
nation's lowest rate for
homeowners coverage because

2772
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:04,680
they're not suffered many
natural disasters. And a lot of

2773
02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:06,600
the buildings are not up to
code. We're not going to cover

2774
02:40:06,600 --> 02:40:12,330
you. So, no, we're not going to
take care of you. These poor

2775
02:40:12,330 --> 02:40:16,110
people. They're really getting
screwed. They are really getting

2776
02:40:16,110 --> 02:40:20,490
screwed. Screwed, big time. And
then and then Oprah who, who's,

2777
02:40:21,390 --> 02:40:24,240
who's placed didn't burn for
whatever reason. I'm sure it's

2778
02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:29,040
because she's Illuminati. She
goes to one of the shelters with

2779
02:40:29,040 --> 02:40:36,780
a CBS camera she goes over the
whole let me go get some great

2780
02:40:36,780 --> 02:40:40,710
footage for Gail. Luckily they
they said no,

2781
02:40:41,070 --> 02:40:44,130
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, they
put the kibosh on the camera.

2782
02:40:44,160 --> 02:40:44,640
You can't

2783
02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:47,490
Adam Curry: have the camera and
that that just clinches it for

2784
02:40:47,490 --> 02:40:51,150
me. So then we'll probably never
know exactly well, and

2785
02:40:51,150 --> 02:40:53,040
John C Dvorak: she put her as
you know, she ended up being

2786
02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:56,100
filmed by somebody with a
candidate with a phone of

2787
02:40:56,100 --> 02:41:00,210
course. It's like yeah, it was
this was a publicity stunt was

2788
02:41:00,390 --> 02:41:01,530
shameless.

2789
02:41:01,980 --> 02:41:08,760
Adam Curry: It really is. Don't
think Yeah, it's really bad. So

2790
02:41:08,760 --> 02:41:12,450
I feel very bad very badly for
these people. And I'll send them

2791
02:41:12,450 --> 02:41:15,750
all the Aloha Malama locka,
locka, ha, whatever. I don't

2792
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:19,860
speak the language. But man, God
bless you people. Have mercy on

2793
02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:23,940
you. And the local reports I'm
getting from people is very,

2794
02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:25,350
very bad. Well,

2795
02:41:25,350 --> 02:41:27,600
John C Dvorak: they roasted him
now they can build some cool

2796
02:41:27,600 --> 02:41:30,060
stuff. Yeah. So

2797
02:41:30,060 --> 02:41:34,230
Adam Curry: it's just sad. While
we're on the topic of roasting,

2798
02:41:34,590 --> 02:41:39,060
while we're on the topic of
roasting, Apple apparently was

2799
02:41:39,060 --> 02:41:44,160
roasting people. They rousted
people with that to remember the

2800
02:41:44,370 --> 02:41:49,050
that they purposely made their
iPhones underperform when they

2801
02:41:49,050 --> 02:41:49,800
got older.

2802
02:41:50,460 --> 02:41:52,530
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course
they did. That was smart. The

2803
02:41:52,530 --> 02:41:54,060
smart thing to do. Yeah, and
they got

2804
02:41:54,060 --> 02:41:57,120
Unknown: off cheap. Apple is
telling eligible iPhone users.

2805
02:41:57,180 --> 02:42:00,090
Their checks are in the mail.
The company says it will pay up

2806
02:42:00,090 --> 02:42:04,380
to $500 million to settle the so
called battery gate class action

2807
02:42:04,380 --> 02:42:07,530
lawsuit about six years ago,
users began accusing Apple of

2808
02:42:07,530 --> 02:42:11,040
deliberately slowing down older
iPhones with aging batteries,

2809
02:42:11,220 --> 02:42:14,100
payments will amount to about 65
bucks per person.

2810
02:42:16,140 --> 02:42:18,930
John C Dvorak: 65 bucks. Who
cares?

2811
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:23,520
Adam Curry: I don't know. Yeah,
no, I was gonna do one more big

2812
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:30,930
tech story. What? Which one?
This is the company that got

2813
02:42:30,930 --> 02:42:38,790
hired originally in Ohio. Or
Kentucky, Kentucky. Yes. To use

2814
02:42:38,820 --> 02:42:46,080
AI. You know, the AI, the AI
stuff all the great AI to manage

2815
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:48,750
the city's school bus routes
this

2816
02:42:48,750 --> 02:42:51,510
Unknown: morning. No school
again today for Jefferson

2817
02:42:51,510 --> 02:42:54,450
County, Kentucky public schools
after this week's school bus

2818
02:42:54,450 --> 02:42:55,260
meltdown.

2819
02:42:55,530 --> 02:42:58,680
I feel like we were lucky. We
were lucky that she was three

2820
02:42:58,680 --> 02:42:59,280
hours late.

2821
02:42:59,460 --> 02:43:02,490
Parents like Aaron Henson
waiting hour after hour for

2822
02:43:02,490 --> 02:43:05,670
their child to be bussed home
after school, the latest arrival

2823
02:43:05,670 --> 02:43:09,690
time incredibly, just before
10pm kindergarteners

2824
02:43:09,690 --> 02:43:14,850
were going to the bathroom on
the bus because they were there

2825
02:43:14,850 --> 02:43:18,210
for so long. They there were
kids sitting in cafeterias until

2826
02:43:18,210 --> 02:43:20,220
well, after 730. My shot

2827
02:43:20,220 --> 02:43:22,770
did not get home until eight
o'clock. She got home at eight

2828
02:43:22,770 --> 02:43:26,520
o'clock because I had to go to
the bus depot. So pick her up as

2829
02:43:26,520 --> 02:43:27,060
well. The

2830
02:43:27,060 --> 02:43:30,600
problem last school year, the
district made major changes to

2831
02:43:30,600 --> 02:43:33,720
its transportation plan citing
bus driver shortages and other

2832
02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:37,770
staff vacancies, spending
$200,000 on a firm that cut

2833
02:43:37,770 --> 02:43:40,800
routes and stops. But to some
parents, the changes seem to

2834
02:43:40,800 --> 02:43:42,090
have made things worse.

2835
02:43:42,180 --> 02:43:45,060
Adam Curry: So in this whole
report, they don't mention Alpha

2836
02:43:45,060 --> 02:43:50,970
route. Who again, here's another
company touting its connections

2837
02:43:50,970 --> 02:43:57,540
to MIT, just like that sewage,
wastewater lady. And they said

2838
02:43:57,540 --> 02:44:01,380
their mathematical models and
machine learning technology is a

2839
02:44:01,380 --> 02:44:03,630
way to save money. Smooth. I

2840
02:44:03,630 --> 02:44:05,580
John C Dvorak: listened to
longer versions of this report,

2841
02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:07,050
you hear stuff like I didn't

2842
02:44:07,170 --> 02:44:09,300
Adam Curry: I have another
minute of this if you want to

2843
02:44:09,300 --> 02:44:10,710
hear it. Oh, yeah,

2844
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:13,290
John C Dvorak: the thing I'm
looking for is the is the point

2845
02:44:13,290 --> 02:44:17,100
where they show that plan to the
bus drivers and they all say

2846
02:44:17,220 --> 02:44:18,780
this is not doable.

2847
02:44:19,650 --> 02:44:20,100
Adam Curry: Let me see if

2848
02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:24,720
Unknown: it's in here. There are
bus drivers that are crying as

2849
02:44:24,720 --> 02:44:28,590
they come in and they're
leaving, apologizing, and I

2850
02:44:28,590 --> 02:44:29,910
don't believe it's their fault.

2851
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:32,880
Superintendent Marty polio
releasing a statement announcing

2852
02:44:32,880 --> 02:44:35,820
schools will be closed till
Monday we have to be better at

2853
02:44:35,820 --> 02:44:38,850
what we are doing. And once
again, I'll say this that lies

2854
02:44:38,850 --> 02:44:42,960
squarely on my shoulders and my
team shoulders. It is not on bus

2855
02:44:42,960 --> 02:44:47,100
drivers. It's not on the school.
It's on me and my team. And we

2856
02:44:47,100 --> 02:44:50,280
are going to fix these parents
is the superintendents

2857
02:44:50,280 --> 02:44:52,740
transportation plan Flat Out
field

2858
02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:57,420
is project management. Like if
it says this is your project,

2859
02:44:57,420 --> 02:45:00,870
this is your job. This is what
you get paid to do. And if it's

2860
02:45:00,870 --> 02:45:04,860
anyone I feel like you fell in
love about a little bit, a

2861
02:45:04,860 --> 02:45:05,310
little bus

2862
02:45:05,310 --> 02:45:08,100
drivers in the Louisville area
are spending the canceled school

2863
02:45:08,100 --> 02:45:11,100
days practicing routes and
making changes. But parents are

2864
02:45:11,100 --> 02:45:14,220
worried Monday will be another
dismal day for students drop

2865
02:45:14,220 --> 02:45:15,360
offs. Adam

2866
02:45:15,360 --> 02:45:17,550
Adam Curry: and John will listen
to episode 1581, you asked a

2867
02:45:17,550 --> 02:45:20,820
question about what fortune 500
company would be using AI for

2868
02:45:20,820 --> 02:45:23,460
Well, I'm a team manager in
customer service, one of the 10

2869
02:45:23,460 --> 02:45:27,120
biggest banks in the US. I'm a
recent roundtable meeting, the

2870
02:45:27,120 --> 02:45:30,210
topic of AI was discussed to let
us know the company is looking

2871
02:45:30,210 --> 02:45:33,930
into implementing AI into our
customer service knowledge base,

2872
02:45:34,170 --> 02:45:37,380
which houses all of our
processes and procedures. These

2873
02:45:37,380 --> 02:45:39,990
procedures are to be searched
for and used by the frontline

2874
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:43,110
staff during each customer
interaction to ensure any and

2875
02:45:43,140 --> 02:45:46,440
all disclosures and all steps
are followed to address any

2876
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:50,160
customer concerns. The thought
is AI will help reduce human

2877
02:45:50,160 --> 02:45:54,990
error. And in locating the
correct process or procedure,

2878
02:45:55,230 --> 02:45:58,800
they'll I don't know which bank
this is, but they're doomed. And

2879
02:45:59,070 --> 02:46:02,340
I got a note from one of our
producers who works at IBM. It's

2880
02:46:02,340 --> 02:46:05,610
so bad there that now they're
new because they still have

2881
02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:10,200
Watson now they have Watson X
and they're doing in house

2882
02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:13,590
hackathons. Hey, guys, see if
you can come up with any cool

2883
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:16,110
products that we can use. And I
was like, this shit doesn't

2884
02:46:16,110 --> 02:46:21,330
work. I can't do anything.
There's nothing of any

2885
02:46:21,360 --> 02:46:24,690
interesting importance that
their kid that they can create

2886
02:46:24,690 --> 02:46:25,320
with this.

2887
02:46:26,250 --> 02:46:31,920
John C Dvorak: I got it. I got a
story. Oh good. Driverless cars

2888
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:33,720
in San Francisco. Here we go.

2889
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:36,210
Unknown: The Utilities
Commission in California has

2890
02:46:36,210 --> 02:46:40,500
voted to allow driverless car
companies act like taxis in San

2891
02:46:40,500 --> 02:46:45,720
Francisco. But as NPR is
derocher reports, they've faced

2892
02:46:45,720 --> 02:46:47,880
resistance from emergency
responders.

2893
02:46:47,910 --> 02:46:51,210
The San Francisco police and
fire departments have been vocal

2894
02:46:51,210 --> 02:46:54,750
about their opposition to
driverless cars. They say the

2895
02:46:54,750 --> 02:46:58,620
vehicles have impeded first
responders operations, running

2896
02:46:58,620 --> 02:47:01,560
through yellow emergency tape
and blocking firehouse

2897
02:47:01,560 --> 02:47:05,430
driveways. Here's San Francisco
Fire Chief Janine Nicholson

2898
02:47:05,700 --> 02:47:09,270
or foe cannot be paying
attention to an autonomous

2899
02:47:09,270 --> 02:47:11,640
vehicle. When we've got ladders
to throw

2900
02:47:11,700 --> 02:47:14,670
Nicholson has been urging
California's transportation

2901
02:47:14,670 --> 02:47:18,330
regulator to halt the growth of
driverless vehicle programs in

2902
02:47:18,330 --> 02:47:22,680
the city. But in a three to one
vote regulators decided to allow

2903
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:26,850
their programs to expand now
autonomous vehicles run by crews

2904
02:47:26,850 --> 02:47:29,970
and way mo can pick up
passengers and charge a fare

2905
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:31,170
just like a taxi

2906
02:47:33,660 --> 02:47:37,110
Adam Curry: This is so dumb. It
really there's nothing that it

2907
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:39,900
just doesn't work. Computers can
use

2908
02:47:39,900 --> 02:47:45,360
John C Dvorak: letter photos or
one tool Oh hold on

2909
02:47:48,450 --> 02:47:52,140
Unknown: no agenda AI can do
anything these guys can't

2910
02:47:53,070 --> 02:47:55,890
Adam Curry: Well that's true. No
agenda does have the best AI

2911
02:47:56,370 --> 02:47:57,000
that's true.

2912
02:47:58,110 --> 02:48:04,410
John C Dvorak: The return of
Zippy so I have

2913
02:48:05,610 --> 02:48:07,950
Adam Curry: a zip is gonna is
our AI and zip is just gonna

2914
02:48:07,950 --> 02:48:11,100
come in and start telling us
what's going on. It was

2915
02:48:12,690 --> 02:48:15,870
John C Dvorak: a Behringer Can
you say get everything wrong?

2916
02:48:15,900 --> 02:48:18,960
Adam Curry: Can you say d w
that's what burned Maui man.

2917
02:48:19,320 --> 02:48:23,580
See, Zippy knows. Yes.

2918
02:48:23,610 --> 02:48:26,190
John C Dvorak: So there's this
weird story about in this time

2919
02:48:26,190 --> 02:48:31,680
covered by many people. But an
add on. It's funny story. I

2920
02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:33,330
don't know why they're not
covering it. But I think I got

2921
02:48:33,330 --> 02:48:38,250
this from NTD. This is the tale
of the year the guy the American

2922
02:48:38,250 --> 02:48:41,580
soldier that goes to the North
Koreans. Yeah, I

2923
02:48:41,580 --> 02:48:47,460
Adam Curry: do have one before
we do the NTD report. Let's do

2924
02:48:47,460 --> 02:48:52,380
the I have I have this. I have
this. I have this. NBC Lester

2925
02:48:52,380 --> 02:48:55,590
Holt. It's short. It's 23
seconds. For

2926
02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:58,020
Unknown: the first time tonight.
There's word from North Korea

2927
02:48:58,020 --> 02:49:02,280
about that US soldier who bolted
last month. North Korea state

2928
02:49:02,280 --> 02:49:05,910
media says private Travis King
confessed to crossing into the

2929
02:49:05,910 --> 02:49:09,540
north because of quote inhuman
maltreatment and racial

2930
02:49:09,540 --> 02:49:13,230
discrimination against the US
Army or within the US Army. The

2931
02:49:13,230 --> 02:49:16,770
Pentagon says it can't verify
the alleged comments and remains

2932
02:49:16,770 --> 02:49:23,370
focused on King safe return.
This is in di D here we go.

2933
02:49:23,670 --> 02:49:26,310
John C Dvorak: North Korea I'm
sorry. I was just gonna say it's

2934
02:49:26,310 --> 02:49:27,300
a little more elaborate.

2935
02:49:28,110 --> 02:49:28,860
Adam Curry: No doubt.

2936
02:49:29,760 --> 02:49:33,270
Unknown: North Korea has broken
its silence on a crucial matter.

2937
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:36,750
The nation has confirmed
detaining the US soldier who

2938
02:49:36,750 --> 02:49:40,920
recently crossed the border into
North Korea and Tunis. Jason

2939
02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:42,270
Perry has the latest.

2940
02:49:42,510 --> 02:49:45,900
On Wednesday, North Korea
officially confirmed it has

2941
02:49:45,900 --> 02:49:49,830
detained the US soldier who ran
across the border. Witnesses say

2942
02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:53,010
the soldier sprinted across the
border while on a private tour

2943
02:49:53,010 --> 02:49:56,160
of the demilitarized zone. The
newly released statement by

2944
02:49:56,160 --> 02:49:59,850
North Korean state media says
Travis King a private second

2945
02:49:59,850 --> 02:50:04,020
call As the US Army illegally
intruded into the territory of

2946
02:50:04,020 --> 02:50:07,530
North Korea. It added that
during an investigation King

2947
02:50:07,530 --> 02:50:11,400
confessed that he decided to go
to North Korea because he quote,

2948
02:50:11,610 --> 02:50:15,210
harbored ill feelings against
inhumane maltreatment and racial

2949
02:50:15,210 --> 02:50:19,020
discrimination within the US
Army. The statement also said

2950
02:50:19,020 --> 02:50:22,620
that Travis wanted to seek
refuge in North Korea or another

2951
02:50:22,620 --> 02:50:26,130
country, there was no immediate
verification that Travis

2952
02:50:26,130 --> 02:50:30,060
actually made these statements.
But his uncle said previously on

2953
02:50:30,060 --> 02:50:33,420
ABC, that King had said
something similar and that he

2954
02:50:33,420 --> 02:50:36,930
appeared to change after getting
into a fight and going to jail.

2955
02:50:37,230 --> 02:50:42,000
The messages became strange. I
was like you, okay? And he sees

2956
02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:44,880
telling me no, they're trying to
kill me. And he said things

2957
02:50:44,880 --> 02:50:48,540
like, said the racist, and it
made me seem like something

2958
02:50:48,540 --> 02:50:51,390
something was going on with him.
Like he was fearing for his

2959
02:50:51,390 --> 02:50:52,200
life. And his

2960
02:50:52,200 --> 02:50:55,470
mom said prior to King crossing
the border that she got a

2961
02:50:55,470 --> 02:50:57,750
strange call from him in the
middle of the night,

2962
02:50:57,780 --> 02:51:01,050
and I was half asleep and he
just called me to scream. I'm

2963
02:51:01,050 --> 02:51:04,200
not the Army soldier you want me
to be I'm not the Army soldier

2964
02:51:04,200 --> 02:51:07,620
you want me to be and he kept
screaming that out loud. And

2965
02:51:07,620 --> 02:51:10,650
then all of a sudden the phone
hung up and then they're taken

2966
02:51:10,650 --> 02:51:12,120
him to the hospital. And

2967
02:51:12,120 --> 02:51:15,390
kings grandfather previously
said this on AP

2968
02:51:15,840 --> 02:51:16,980
thinks I'm wrong when

2969
02:51:18,060 --> 02:51:20,910
he thinking clearly I don't
think he would get ran out.

2970
02:51:22,140 --> 02:51:24,360
Loud like to see him come back.

2971
02:51:26,190 --> 02:51:29,610
Adam Curry: Whoa, this is much,
much more in depth. How come

2972
02:51:29,610 --> 02:51:30,900
we're not getting this year?

2973
02:51:31,980 --> 02:51:35,250
John C Dvorak: They don't want
to push this sort of maybe

2974
02:51:35,250 --> 02:51:38,880
hasn't been run to North Korea
because it's very embarrassing.

2975
02:51:38,910 --> 02:51:41,700
Wow. Why would anyone want to go
to North Korea when you can have

2976
02:51:41,700 --> 02:51:45,210
all this free stuff is part two
of the clip. On

2977
02:51:45,210 --> 02:51:47,940
Unknown: Wednesday, State
Department Deputy Spokesperson

2978
02:51:47,940 --> 02:51:51,690
Vidin Patel was asked about
North Korea's recent statement

2979
02:51:51,690 --> 02:51:52,710
on private king what

2980
02:51:52,770 --> 02:51:57,720
what I can say is that we cannot
verify the comments attributed

2981
02:51:57,720 --> 02:52:01,770
to private King. What I will say
is though that we remain focused

2982
02:52:01,770 --> 02:52:05,850
on his safe return. And our
priority is to bring private

2983
02:52:05,850 --> 02:52:08,730
King home and we are working
through all available channels

2984
02:52:08,730 --> 02:52:09,960
to achieve that outcome.

2985
02:52:10,320 --> 02:52:14,100
But so added that since King
crossed the border North Korea

2986
02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:17,250
has not responded to any
messages from the State

2987
02:52:17,250 --> 02:52:21,090
Department. A spokesperson for
king's family Jonathan Franks

2988
02:52:21,240 --> 02:52:25,410
recently posted a message on X
on behalf of the family says

2989
02:52:25,410 --> 02:52:28,800
King's mother is worried about
her son and she would be

2990
02:52:28,800 --> 02:52:30,780
grateful for a phone call from
him

2991
02:52:34,050 --> 02:52:35,850
John C Dvorak: I think that this
is a good story. Yeah,

2992
02:52:35,910 --> 02:52:38,340
Adam Curry: I can't get used to
people saying x though is still

2993
02:52:38,340 --> 02:52:38,850
weird.

2994
02:52:40,020 --> 02:52:43,170
John C Dvorak: Very very lonely.
I don't see it is a very Witter.

2995
02:52:44,490 --> 02:52:46,200
Adam Curry: Okay, there's a
couple other things in the news

2996
02:52:46,200 --> 02:52:51,480
that we that are interesting.
This I got I think this is from

2997
02:52:51,480 --> 02:52:55,740
France. 24 not hearing a lot
about this guy but the leading

2998
02:52:55,740 --> 02:53:00,120
apparently the leading candidate
for Argentina's presidency is an

2999
02:53:00,120 --> 02:53:04,290
interesting guy is a right
winger I think, well he's beyond

3000
02:53:04,290 --> 02:53:08,070
that he they call him the wig.
This guy is crazy oils and

3001
02:53:08,070 --> 02:53:11,010
Unknown: hugs for a political
outsider who's just lit up

3002
02:53:11,040 --> 02:53:14,880
Argentina's Election Race, have
you Millay laps up the applause

3003
02:53:14,880 --> 02:53:17,760
knowing that he is now one of
the favourites to rule the

3004
02:53:17,760 --> 02:53:21,540
country. They call him leper
Luca or the wig for his wild

3005
02:53:21,540 --> 02:53:24,510
hair. Rock anthems always
provide the soundtrack to his

3006
02:53:24,510 --> 02:53:27,870
rallies. The former singer of a
Rolling Stones tribute band, an

3007
02:53:27,870 --> 02:53:31,200
economics professor promises
radical change in a country

3008
02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:34,350
where two political forces have
ruled for decades, people are

3009
02:53:34,350 --> 02:53:37,170
sick of the cost of living
crisis nine barback

3010
02:53:38,670 --> 02:53:43,020
Amala doesn't matter whether it
is good or bad manners, enough

3011
02:53:43,020 --> 02:53:46,650
for the fallacy of discussing
form. Let's discuss contents the

3012
02:53:46,650 --> 02:53:52,050
contents that you don't want,
and that we have plenty of. I

3013
02:53:52,050 --> 02:53:55,710
therefore invite Argentinians to
join the liberal revolution that

3014
02:53:55,710 --> 02:53:58,560
will make Argentina a world
power again in such five years.

3015
02:54:02,850 --> 02:54:05,760
The so called Middle Eastern
supporters of Millay say he's

3016
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:08,580
offering something completely
different. He's flattered to be

3017
02:54:08,580 --> 02:54:13,080
called an Argentinian Donald
Trump or Jair Bolsonaro. Critics

3018
02:54:13,110 --> 02:54:16,200
say his credentials are straight
from anti establishment central

3019
02:54:16,200 --> 02:54:21,000
casting. A longtime political
chat show guest draws a crowd

3020
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:25,350
wherever he goes. He opposes
abortion denies the existence of

3021
02:54:25,350 --> 02:54:29,580
global warming and cause
Argentina attacks help pledging

3022
02:54:29,610 --> 02:54:32,550
a rapid reduction in government
spending and changing the

3023
02:54:32,550 --> 02:54:36,720
currency to the dollar.
Elections are two months away

3024
02:54:36,780 --> 02:54:40,350
the primaries reflects the anger
of the political system. The

3025
02:54:40,350 --> 02:54:43,590
current president Alberto
Fernandez is standing down

3026
02:54:43,710 --> 02:54:47,010
blamed for the failure to tackle
the economic crisis and

3027
02:54:47,010 --> 02:54:50,580
spiraling inflation. Many
Argentinians prepared to gamble

3028
02:54:50,580 --> 02:54:53,370
on the unpredictable
disillusioned by the tried and

3029
02:54:53,370 --> 02:54:54,870
tested Yeah,

3030
02:54:54,900 --> 02:54:56,790
Adam Curry: this guy's
interesting. He's also a Bitcoin

3031
02:54:56,790 --> 02:55:01,020
or makes him even funnier. He
looks a little like Trump and

3032
02:55:01,050 --> 02:55:06,210
like Trump and Elvis kind of
mixed sideburns and everything

3033
02:55:06,210 --> 02:55:08,850
it's it i like it it's very
interesting who

3034
02:55:08,850 --> 02:55:11,190
John C Dvorak: is definitely
going to provide entertainment

3035
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:13,350
update

3036
02:55:14,370 --> 02:55:17,040
Adam Curry: I have some it's in
the show notes people can take a

3037
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:23,250
look at it appears that a lot of
small arms so and with that it's

3038
02:55:23,250 --> 02:55:29,550
also a thing as ak 47 etc that
are blanketing the belt of

3039
02:55:29,550 --> 02:55:35,490
Africa are coming from Libya
which is another tell in my book

3040
02:55:35,940 --> 02:55:38,520
John C Dvorak: well to make that
tell even more interesting play

3041
02:55:38,520 --> 02:55:40,560
my Libya advanced warning clip

3042
02:55:43,350 --> 02:55:45,090
Adam Curry: where is it? Okay

3043
02:55:45,090 --> 02:55:48,780
Unknown: got it. After two days
of heavy fighting some semblance

3044
02:55:48,780 --> 02:55:52,440
of comms returned to the Libyan
capitol, security forces are

3045
02:55:52,440 --> 02:55:56,190
patrolling the streets of
Tripoli. Local media report that

3046
02:55:56,190 --> 02:56:00,600
rival militias began exchanging
gunfire Monday. The violence

3047
02:56:00,600 --> 02:56:04,290
that claimed at least 45 lives
in the Libyan Capitol this week,

3048
02:56:04,560 --> 02:56:08,460
underscores the power struggle
that's grown since the late

3049
02:56:08,460 --> 02:56:11,820
dictator Muammar Qaddafi was
overthrown and later killed more

3050
02:56:11,820 --> 02:56:12,990
than a decade ago

3051
02:56:13,020 --> 02:56:18,480
Adam Curry: now, weren't we
shipping arms to Libya? Wasn't

3052
02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:22,890
that part of the whole problem?
Wasn't that part of what Hillary

3053
02:56:22,890 --> 02:56:28,140
Clinton was doing? And our
ambassador got killed? Weren't

3054
02:56:28,140 --> 02:56:30,300
these arms going to Libya? But

3055
02:56:30,330 --> 02:56:33,000
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure
where she was shipping arms but

3056
02:56:33,000 --> 02:56:37,650
probably he. We came he left we
died you know kind of thing.

3057
02:56:37,890 --> 02:56:41,640
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's yeah,
he we came he saw he died. That

3058
02:56:41,640 --> 02:56:41,970
one.

3059
02:56:43,110 --> 02:56:45,120
John C Dvorak: We came we saw he
Yeah, that's what I

3060
02:56:45,120 --> 02:56:48,690
Adam Curry: mean. I don't know.
But this this stinks. All this

3061
02:56:48,690 --> 02:56:50,190
stinks. It's totally

3062
02:56:50,190 --> 02:56:54,210
John C Dvorak: safe. I do have a
Nigerian report. But but that's

3063
02:56:54,240 --> 02:56:56,160
desperate for the next year. I
think we're running out.

3064
02:56:56,220 --> 02:56:58,470
Adam Curry: Right. But I want to
do want yeah, we are just want

3065
02:56:58,470 --> 02:57:05,520
to do one more thing on. I want
to do one more thing on Ukraine.

3066
02:57:06,600 --> 02:57:09,450
Because there is some there is
some movement, there is some

3067
02:57:09,450 --> 02:57:13,890
development. And the first one
is, have you seen this crazy

3068
02:57:13,890 --> 02:57:18,480
spokes hold for Ukraine now? The
American transgender they are

3069
02:57:18,480 --> 02:57:23,430
that one Sarah and Sarah Ashton
Cirilo quickie from Sarah. Do

3070
02:57:23,430 --> 02:57:23,640
you know

3071
02:57:23,640 --> 02:57:28,470
Unknown: the difference between
us and them? Besides fighting

3072
02:57:28,500 --> 02:57:31,560
under this flag and for freedom?
On behalf of the people of

3073
02:57:31,560 --> 02:57:34,410
Ukraine? All the Russians are
fighting for tyranny and

3074
02:57:34,410 --> 02:57:39,840
dictatorship? It's pretty
simple. Where are you men? And

3075
02:57:39,840 --> 02:57:43,560
those guys most definitely
aren't slow crane.

3076
02:57:44,970 --> 02:57:47,610
Adam Curry: We're human and
those guys definitely aren't.

3077
02:57:48,240 --> 02:57:49,740
John C Dvorak: Where did you
hear that one where he talked

3078
02:57:49,740 --> 02:57:53,160
calls Putin a vampire? Oh, no, I
didn't get that one. That's

3079
02:57:53,370 --> 02:57:57,690
that's the better 100 You can
see that he's got two blood

3080
02:57:57,690 --> 02:58:01,350
coming out of the corner of his
mouth and he you know, is no,

3081
02:58:01,650 --> 02:58:07,800
yes. This is something's phony
about this guy. What is Unbeliev

3082
02:58:07,800 --> 02:58:11,760
any of it that he's a
spokesperson for anyone? And

3083
02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:14,760
Adam Curry: I'm not sure what
there's weird stuff going on.

3084
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:22,020
And then this I'd say is is kind
of the is kind of the thing that

3085
02:58:22,020 --> 02:58:25,770
we need to be looking at this,
this cargo ship. Here we go. So,

3086
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:30,240
you know, cargo ships have not
been able to leave the port. And

3087
02:58:30,330 --> 02:58:34,050
we kind of been thinking that
this is you know, because arms

3088
02:58:34,050 --> 02:58:37,320
are on the ships, but this is
still under the Green Deal. Oh,

3089
02:58:37,320 --> 02:58:39,840
we've got a we got to get some
chips off because people can't

3090
02:58:39,840 --> 02:58:43,410
eat they need cereals and grain
and then this report comes out a

3091
02:58:43,410 --> 02:58:46,080
manual let's start off with this
cargo ship in the Black Sea.

3092
02:58:46,110 --> 02:58:47,340
What's the latest there?

3093
02:58:47,730 --> 02:58:50,070
Unknown: Well, this is the first
Congress shipped to the party

3094
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:53,880
Ukrainian the port the port of
Odessa since last week's

3095
02:58:54,330 --> 02:58:59,250
Ukraine's announcement that it
would open a temporary corridor

3096
02:58:59,280 --> 02:59:04,350
in the Black Sea in a bid to
unblock the situation to send

3097
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:10,590
some of those ships willing to
sell with cargo on board to

3098
02:59:10,620 --> 02:59:15,930
other ports and this ship this
ship has left a port of Odessa

3099
02:59:15,930 --> 02:59:22,170
this morning with a 30,000 tons
of goods have also cereals

3100
02:59:22,170 --> 02:59:26,340
Ukrainian cereals, it was
blocked in Odessa port for 17

3101
02:59:26,340 --> 02:59:33,330
months. It has it bears a flag
from Hong Kong. And as you

3102
02:59:33,330 --> 02:59:38,520
mentioned, it is sailing now in
the Black Sea and that remains

3103
02:59:38,520 --> 02:59:42,420
to be seen like which response
Russia will keep knowing that.

3104
02:59:43,680 --> 02:59:49,320
Yesterday it stops it halted a
ship that was sailing towards

3105
02:59:49,350 --> 02:59:55,230
Ukraine because Moscow warned
that any ship outgoing or

3106
02:59:55,230 --> 02:59:59,970
incoming from Ukrainian ports
might be considered a threat

3107
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:04,830
then this comes nearly a month
after Russia decided not renew

3108
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:08,670
the Black Sea agreement on
serials and nearly a month after

3109
03:00:08,670 --> 03:00:12,780
Russia started to heavily shell
Ukrainian fort infrastructures

3110
03:00:12,780 --> 03:00:15,360
in the south of their country.
The latest of this attack

3111
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:20,460
happening last night with at
least 13 drones sent against

3112
03:00:20,490 --> 03:00:24,480
port infrastructures and
damaging grain depots in Eleni

3113
03:00:24,480 --> 03:00:27,690
and East mileposts in the south
of Ukraine. Alright,

3114
03:00:27,690 --> 03:00:30,600
Adam Curry: this being Thursday
we don't have a recent update so

3115
03:00:30,600 --> 03:00:33,930
we don't know exactly if Russia
has stopped this ship the

3116
03:00:33,930 --> 03:00:39,030
shipment or not? If they don't I
think that must mean something

3117
03:00:39,030 --> 03:00:45,780
good. Maybe there is some some
deal underway. If they do I

3118
03:00:45,780 --> 03:00:49,260
mean, the you heard it's all
these tonnage of goods but not

3119
03:00:49,260 --> 03:00:54,630
necessarily. Grain just some
cereal could be all kinds of

3120
03:00:54,630 --> 03:01:01,710
stuff and it's under a Hong Kong
flag. So this is weird. Yeah.

3121
03:01:03,180 --> 03:01:05,790
Okay, that's the best response I
can get. Okay,

3122
03:01:05,940 --> 03:01:07,410
John C Dvorak: so you're gonna
get from me?

3123
03:01:08,850 --> 03:01:10,380
Adam Curry: Did you want to play
anything else before

3124
03:01:10,380 --> 03:01:13,680
John C Dvorak: we leave is seven
there's been there 17 months got

3125
03:01:13,680 --> 03:01:17,520
to be just pretty fishy. It's
not filled with grain it would

3126
03:01:17,580 --> 03:01:21,810
go bad. Yeah. Do I have one last
thing I have Niger. I'll play

3127
03:01:21,810 --> 03:01:27,570
that in the next show. Inflation
reduction stuffs no good. Play

3128
03:01:27,570 --> 03:01:32,280
that in the next show. Now I'm
good. I'm done. You're done.

3129
03:01:32,310 --> 03:01:36,480
Adam Curry: All right, you're
done. Well, everybody doing it

3130
03:01:36,480 --> 03:01:41,760
here on the vacation. I hope you
appreciate the value you

3131
03:01:41,760 --> 03:01:46,020
received. Let me see what do we
have coming up?

3132
03:01:46,470 --> 03:01:49,620
John C Dvorak: On no agenda
slogan vacation hours again next

3133
03:01:49,620 --> 03:01:50,520
Sunday? Yeah, we'll

3134
03:01:50,520 --> 03:01:52,080
Adam Curry: do it again. Next
Sunday. Definitely

3135
03:01:52,230 --> 03:01:53,070
Unknown: an hour Same

3136
03:01:53,070 --> 03:01:54,150
John C Dvorak: time, same place,
same

3137
03:01:54,150 --> 03:01:57,690
Adam Curry: time, same place and
you and I have to do the the

3138
03:01:57,690 --> 03:02:01,230
wrap arounds for the special
that we have on the Thursday

3139
03:02:01,230 --> 03:02:04,500
after that which is going to be
a doozy it's all of the no

3140
03:02:04,500 --> 03:02:05,670
agenda opens.

3141
03:02:07,530 --> 03:02:10,590
John C Dvorak: The rest actually
quite if he's gonna be dancing.

3142
03:02:10,590 --> 03:02:11,520
It's gonna be that show.

3143
03:02:11,550 --> 03:02:14,460
Adam Curry: Ya know, it's it's
it's pretty trippy, actually.

3144
03:02:15,390 --> 03:02:19,470
Grumpy Old Ben's coming up next
AI power. They'll be talking

3145
03:02:19,470 --> 03:02:24,090
about AI and a show mixes and
your show mixes. Sir Michael

3146
03:02:24,090 --> 03:02:29,400
Anthony DS laughs and Matty J
coming to you from the just 20

3147
03:02:29,400 --> 03:02:35,790
miles south of the Austin of the
Texas of Spain, Barcelona. In

3148
03:02:35,790 --> 03:02:37,260
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.

3149
03:02:37,860 --> 03:02:41,910
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley. I'm John C.

3150
03:02:41,910 --> 03:02:42,690
Dvorak. We'll

3151
03:02:42,690 --> 03:02:46,140
Adam Curry: be back on Sunday.
Remember us at the boruch.org/na

3152
03:02:46,140 --> 03:02:50,880
Until then, adios mofos a hui
Hui. And such

3153
03:02:53,280 --> 03:03:02,730
Unknown: no more room in regards
a migraine crises Oh. Why don't

3154
03:03:02,970 --> 03:03:08,550
y'all just go back home I
invited y'all but I was wrong.

3155
03:03:09,390 --> 03:03:14,520
You can see Rico so no more room
in

3156
03:03:16,080 --> 03:03:20,430
New York is one of your few
states. You have right to

3157
03:03:20,430 --> 03:03:26,370
shelter. We we were not allowed
to say we don't have room. We

3158
03:03:26,400 --> 03:03:29,880
have no more room in the city
and it's

3159
03:03:37,050 --> 03:03:42,000
normal you got sharks emails of
drugs? Best shark we promo with

3160
03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:46,320
a cocaine brain. What a native
ad real story like the cocaine.

3161
03:03:46,320 --> 03:03:50,220
They're telling us Satterfield
why should we cut the cord? Why

3162
03:03:50,220 --> 03:03:54,210
are you watching TV it's called
program for a reason. Companies

3163
03:03:54,210 --> 03:03:57,420
did advertise it's never been
edited and know what the people

3164
03:03:57,420 --> 03:04:01,500
want to see. Are you surprised
strike factor and sad as bad as

3165
03:04:01,500 --> 03:04:07,770
the real enemy is big tech.
Amazon owns MGM studio, TELUS

3166
03:04:07,770 --> 03:04:11,580
your content will be received
eating to poultry generally for

3167
03:04:11,580 --> 03:04:16,230
the algorithm 98% of workers
early winning. Now we got some

3168
03:04:16,350 --> 03:04:20,790
complaining streams on all
Americans who would use too many

3169
03:04:20,790 --> 03:04:24,420
movies and shows to consume
before adding this causes only

3170
03:04:24,420 --> 03:04:27,780
so much room and screen time is
outrageous. What really broke

3171
03:04:27,960 --> 03:04:32,130
people on ADHD meds game focus.
I say not to talk about

3172
03:04:32,130 --> 03:04:36,030
religion, politics. What is
politics?

3173
03:04:46,830 --> 03:04:53,910
Are you having a Big Mike? Mike
is a big Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike.

3174
03:04:54,390 --> 03:04:59,970
You're right. That's a family.
name's Mike. Big. Mike Michael

3175
03:05:01,050 --> 03:05:03,060
Big Guy respected my

3176
03:05:05,130 --> 03:05:06,900
man's news

3177
03:05:07,110 --> 03:05:10,200
is Big Mike says this happened
and happened. That's the black

3178
03:05:10,200 --> 03:05:18,510
man's experience. That's a real
man. She looks like an NBA 79

3179
03:05:18,840 --> 03:05:22,650
He's got a dick. He's a guy.
He's really up, man.

3180
03:05:24,210 --> 03:05:28,020
That's a man. That's a man.
That's right. It's a man saved

3181
03:05:28,020 --> 03:05:28,320
me

3182
03:05:28,950 --> 03:05:33,240
with her Cognito and did my the
Chinese would give up.

3183
03:05:36,630 --> 03:05:43,860
Adam Curry: Oh Big Mike 2024
first trans black president.

3184
03:05:46,170 --> 03:05:50,640
Unknown: Michael Knight, right.
I am a man. Maybe our Big Mike

3185
03:05:50,700 --> 03:05:55,830
who cares? It's Michelle Obama
took her talk out at the

3186
03:05:55,830 --> 03:05:58,950
Democratic Convention. The
Chinese would go with thrown in

3187
03:05:58,950 --> 03:06:00,780
the towel. We can compete with
them.

3188
03:06:04,380 --> 03:06:08,430
I'm just saying olders are wide.
Her face very, very masculine.

3189
03:06:08,430 --> 03:06:13,800
She appeared to have a very
large penis in her pants, and

3190
03:06:13,830 --> 03:06:20,490
I've gotten very high level
sources. She's actually part

3191
03:06:20,490 --> 03:06:33,240
of the Legion of doom.org/and.

3192
03:06:34,650 --> 03:06:37,080
That is incredibly good news.