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Unknown: Oh no. Change it. Adam
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Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak.
November 16 2023. This is your

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award winning nation media
assassination episode 1608. This

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Unknown: is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: tracking militants
Swifties in broadcasting live

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from the heart of the country
here in region number six. Good

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry, and

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where the

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protesters have shut down the
San Francisco Bay Bridge and

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Jesse.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, you got a
front seat view then over the

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protests are shutting down the
bridge.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, and all the
networks are covering in channel

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I have to say KTVU. He goes to
them. They have the best covers.

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They got to a woman on the
bridge with where they're

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arresting all the protesters and
she's there with their camera

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crew. And she keeps you then
they have this cordoned off. And

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she keeps breaking through the
cordon das

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Adam Curry: think and what did I
think? What are they protesting?

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Oh, they're protesting

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John C Dvorak: is our supportive
Israel.

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Adam Curry: Oh, well, beautiful
beauty.

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John C Dvorak: I have to
describe these people. Yes,

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please.

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Adam Curry: Let me guess. Go
ahead. I can already guess that

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they're pretty much the same as
the Black Lives Matter, people,

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LGBTQ queers for Palestine,
except they have Kippy as arm

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they have the scarfs.

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John C Dvorak: A few of them do
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them are masked up. Oh, what
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sorry. Windy bridge, and it's
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place in the world. And there
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say it's about at least half of
the trans queers for Palestine

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people there. Yes. And then
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there's some other ethics in
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Adam Curry: Now here's the
question because I've been

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tracking this at this at this
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Every single protest, every
single one is organized by a

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political party. Every single
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political party, but that
that'll be obvious. Are there

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any professional signs in the
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're all
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mostly, it's just a big banner
that they were using. And they

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they busted him up pretty
quickly. But unfortunately, what

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they've done is they they drove
a bunch of I don't know, maybe

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50 cars under the bridge blocked
all the lanes. And then in their

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wise, futuristic vision of the
world. They threw their car keys

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into the water.

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Adam Curry: Oh, goodness
gracious, no way their own way

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their own car keys. Yeah. So
their cars are now stuck on the

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bridge and they can't move?

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John C Dvorak: Well, they're no
they're pulling them off one by

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one and they've got most of them
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I think at eight in the morning
still block is the bridge is

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still closed. And it's it's
actually quite humorous. If

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you're not on the bridge, if you

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Adam Curry: don't have to get
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then let me jump into this for a
second. I've been doing a bit of

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research, looking at the pollute
at the signs, there was a lot

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going on in DC. And when you're
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it's always politically
motivated. But it was I mean, it

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was there was just so much
bizarre stuff it kind of like

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makes your your brain just fries
over and over again with which

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people are saying what I mean,
we had two groups of Jews, the

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Pro and anti Zionist yelling at
each other. And it was so it was

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Jews versus Jews but you had the
Hasidic Jews You know the ones

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with the curly Q's and the and
the strings and the hats and

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they're all anti Israel which
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I'm just just just listen a
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they're using against each other
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middle

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these are these are the these
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know with their with their
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lesson in protesting.

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John C Dvorak: You know, in this
city Jews who are welcomed into

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Israel being Jewish anymore have
settled there. Nobody's ever

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liked him but they they've
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IDF service and refused to do
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they've always been outliers in
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a fringe group that It is, I
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that Israeli Jews normal ones
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Adam Curry: Well, let's let's go
back to the to the this was in

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front of the Capitol there was
the Jews for ceasefire, also

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known as rabbis for ceasefire.
Interestingly, now, every single

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one of these videos always has a
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which also has the URL of who
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this particular demonstration.
This was a peaceful one. This is

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rabbis for ceasefire, and all
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Unknown: Our demands are a
ceasefire. Now, de escalation is

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now in full negotiated release
of all hostages. Now, Prime

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Minister Netanyahu only looks to
Torah, it feels like to justify

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violence and to justify his own
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intention. So as a rabbi, it's
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If they're watching, I want them
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people care about you. You are
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And we have not forgotten you.
Every life is precious, and

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every death is a tragedy,
Israeli and Palestinian. So

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Adam Curry: that must be a
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to have female rabbis and they
all have those cute little mini

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hats on. You know what I mean?
Like it's like with an elastic

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band. It's a very teeny little
mini hat. I know it's probably

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not hat but it looks like it so
they hold up a sign and that

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comes by on this report and it's
the answer colada yarmulke

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John C Dvorak: is a no no no,
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Adam Curry: like a little little
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John C Dvorak: A hat a little
toe. I know what you mean. Box

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egg a little bitty mini I'm sure
the me hat I'm

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Adam Curry: sure I will be
corrected about the mini hat

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assertion. So the sign says that
this is rabbis for ceasefire

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Jews for ceasefire by the answer
coalition. Answer. World's

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Workers Party well so I go in
answer coalition founded just

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three days after September
11 2001 attacks answer which is

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an acronym for act now to stop
war and end racism initiated the

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massive us anti war movement
opposing US invasion of Iraq in

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the months prior to March
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coalition is not its own 501 C
three, if you donate to them, in

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fact, you are donating to the
progress unity Fund, which you

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should know because the progress
unity fund is its headquarters

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is in San Francisco. And it is
the goal of the Progress unity

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fund to promote unity through
diversity of people's respect

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for their histories, cultures
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respect, a sense of solidarity
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between peoples and this is run
by Susan mizen Berg am you why

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Sen. Be ERG, who writes many
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so just a couple of headlines.
Santa Clara Hyatt Regency

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workers fight to unionize
janitor take on high tech firms.

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ACLU charges San Jose company
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torture. So she's pretty
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she is the head honcho of the
Peace and Freedom Party. And if

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you go to peace and freedom.us
right there on the homepage, a

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picture of Karl Karl Marx. And
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committed to socialism,
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racial equality. We represent
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capital in a capitalist society.
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organization. And all they want
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organization, name, Marxist
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for you to vote out anyone who's
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most people who are jumping into
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they're being abused for
political means by the

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socialists and Marxists of the
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Here's socialist workers.org

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Unknown: They've given the green
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Israeli Government to commit
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their cool policies in the West
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Well, we humans are all the same
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are considered you know, not on
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what kind of world are we go in
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known for that's why I'm here
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Every single MBA in this country
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needs to be regarded as
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on. They these are people that
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make sure that they don't hold
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They are going to be on the
wrong side of history. And we

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will make sure that their
children or grandchildren that

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they have in the future will
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did, that they were part of
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We haven't been doing anything.
So only sound the heat of the

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man is ceasefires least that we
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hear our voices and do something
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what MPs say then about what
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protested for Palestine and what
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Adam Curry: people's emotions
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being done by political party
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of course not immune to this. We
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socialists, Claire Daly and that
Wallace fellow with the with the

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wild gray hair. They they took a
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let's throw some children in
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Unknown: are some Palestinians
living in Belgium who have lost

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incredible numbers of their
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Palestine. And we're going to
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is a question for the EU. How
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the EU to call for a ceasefire
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52 Cyber Grievers every day that
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least 55 Yesterday, the Israeli
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massacre and Jabalia camp near
my my family's house and I can't

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know anything about them I came
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about them. I fall asleep
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there is no food there's no
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to die because she can't see my
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make anything for them. You must
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enough with killing children
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children freely

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is such a difficult moment as we
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expose their personal grief to
share the memories of their

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loved ones who are no more you
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one family member maybe in a
natural death but to have your

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entire family wiped out in the
genocide list assault for the

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civilized world stands by in
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Adam Curry: you go way to use
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olds on that stage. You know
what, let's go back to the UK

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let's let's have the son who
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Let's have them up it up a
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this against the Hamas guys. We
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Unknown: Good morning from
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Israel's war with Hamas on a
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concerns for 36 newborn babies
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Hospital in Gaza City. The Al
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but at the moment it is not
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power. And without power, it
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The generators therefore cannot
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are providing life saving oxygen
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babies. The Israeli Defense
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situation as Jaya, they agreed
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that they would leave 300 liters
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point. But in a devastating
twist, mas have blocked doctors

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from the hospital from
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can then start providing the
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they so desperately need to keep
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being they are being swaddled in
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the essence. And it is certainly
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Adam Curry: excellent twist on
an original, very nice way to

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move to switch a roo they're
like good rewrite. It's a great

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rewrite. Now. Of course we have
to do something in France

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because we got way too many
Muslims there. We have the

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French we know that they hate
the Jews. So Israel needs to go

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in and we need to show them our
new faces of death video. Yes.

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The 43 minutes that was shown to
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Unknown: Some MPs left the
screening in shock in tears

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struggling to cope with the 43
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killings of children and women
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group. In one of the rooms on
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they wanted to show the truth
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prevent the spread of conspiracy
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France Israel friendship group
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President maximas Renaissance
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him after the screening.

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It was extremely difficult. I'm
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After the screening of the
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humanity, all of humanity that
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room. I think it was very
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in the face of those who would
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with us as well as the risk of
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MPs are shocked by what they
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how France should act and deal
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Middle East. Far right and right
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terrorists was simply barbarians
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barbarian means they fully
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currently conducting its
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other hand, we spoke to a far
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attack was shocked by the
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who said that at the same time
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the way is killing civilians in
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Adam Curry: before I take a
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because the problem now is for
the mainstream media, they all

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have to pick a side you've got
to pick your side you've got to

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pick it very very carefully. And
by the way notice how the New

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York Times will say this many
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Palestinians were killed me as
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that are taking place how do we
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about to get ugly. This is
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this to be a true grassroots
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megaphone was speaking Arabic
there's a lot of auto Akbar's

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going on and listen to what they
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Unknown: The truth is a lie to
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prosecuted

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Adam Curry: so, yes, M five M
those those kids who you

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encouraged they're going to turn
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John C Dvorak: makes you think
that was grassroots that woman

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Adam Curry: What I mean is I
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in my mind. Not necessarily.
There were no professional

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signs. This was the handmade
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still the same people. But this
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a Socialist Party who was
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different party and I think
that's the scariest one was I

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don't know I don't know who this
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there's this was a this was a
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for blood. I'm telling you.
Genocide, Joe signs handmade.

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John C Dvorak: I like to
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to get a hold of it. There's

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Adam Curry: no There's no
official printed ones. That's

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the thing. There's no official
agenda, couple

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John C Dvorak: of protests and
there'll be a sign maker nearby

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a guy or a girl doing these
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They're not they're not a
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doesn't mean it's not organized.

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Adam Curry: I looked all over. I
could not find any political

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party that was connected to this
particular group. This group is

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a little freaky. Have you Have
you followed the Tiktok sigh up,

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John C Dvorak: Know the chicken.
Everyone's complaining about it.

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Have

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Adam Curry: you heard about it
the letter from the letter to

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America?

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John C Dvorak: Which one? Ah,

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Adam Curry: so the story goes
like this. Osama bin Laden?

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John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, that
died. No, I'm very familiar with

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this. Now it's all been taken
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Adam Curry: Laden wrote a letter
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John C Dvorak: we're supposed to
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Adam Curry: Which, as far as
we're concerned, Osama bin Laden

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died way before them. It's a
handwritten scribbled note. And

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this is being you and The
Guardian had published it. And

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they took it down.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, everybody
took it down. It was also here

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and it was here and it was
there. And it was there. And it

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was here and it was here. And
here's my favorite. I'm looking

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at this one, one tweet about
this. And it's hit zero and

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that's taken down and taken
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luckily, I saved a copy here and
you click on that it's gone.

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Bull crap.

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Adam Curry: But the the SIOP on
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And it all comes I mean, and if
even if you read it, it's just

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like, okay, whatever it does end
with, continue the war, if you

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will, justice is the strongest
army security is the best way of

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life, but it slipped out of your
grasp the day you made the Jews

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victorious, and occupying our
land and killing our brothers in

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Palestine, the path to security
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oppression from us. So well,
let's just say right off the

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bat, you and I do not believe
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without

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John C Dvorak: even asking me
you're making assumptions you

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assume my pronouns?

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Adam Curry: I sure do. Zamzar.
But the this is a professionally

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orchestrated viral campaign. And
it's pretty much all BLM LGBTQ

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women, and they have a script.
And stop me when you've heard

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enough this morning. Wait,

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John C Dvorak: wait, I want to
say this. There's always two

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sides to this. There's the
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and the suckers who fell for it.
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pointing the finger at

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Adam Curry: people I'm going to
I'm going to tell you that. I'm

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going to tell you that. They're
all falling for it. I mean, this

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is so well done. And listen to
the script. When you when you

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hear the script, you'll be like,
Okay, this is working. This is

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class act top foreign
propaganda. This morning,

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Unknown: I read a letter to
America, which is Osama bin

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Laden's letter to America,
explaining why he attacked

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Americans. And I am ashamed to
say that I not only have never

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read this letter, but I didn't
even know this letter existed.

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It's wild, and everyone should
read it. If you haven't read it

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yet read it. However, be
forewarned that this has left me

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very disillusioned. And I feel
the same exact way I felt when I

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was deconstructing Christianity.
I feel a little bit just

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confused. Like I have entered
into another timeline. What is

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this? And yeah, so go read this.
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Adam Curry: are these are these
are filtered good looking young

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women. But you know, we've seen
them. These are the ones who are

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John C Dvorak: there. No, but
this is just a nobody of some

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sort. Yeah, right. I mean, it's
not a brand name. No,

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Adam Curry: no, no, none of
these are brand name. No, these

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are these have been cast. These
these actors have been cast and

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and listen to the script over
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Unknown: yeah, so

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go read it. So I just read a
letter to America. And I will

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never look at life the same I
will never look at.

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Adam Curry: Wow, very ready.

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John C Dvorak: Within two of
these, it's so obvious that this

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trip did. And so you asked me
when I wanted to cut it off.

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Under some circumstances, I
shouldn't say now because it's

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obvious what's going on. But I
want to hear for these this

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Unknown: country the same, I
will never please read it. And

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if you have read it, let me know
if you are also going through an

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existential crisis in this very
moment. Because in the last 20

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minutes, my entire viewpoint on
the entire life I have believed

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and I have lived has changed.
Please read that entire letter.

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I need everyone to stop what
they're doing right now and go

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read. It's literally two pages.
Go read a letter to America. And

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please come back here and just
let me know what you think

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Adam Curry: this is consistent.
Come back and tell me what you

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think that's what they all say.
Come back and tell me what you

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think. Go read it now. Stop what
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me what you think. It's

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Unknown: like, I'm going through
like an existential crisis right

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now, of course, and a lot of
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someone else to be feeling this
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need you to stop what you're
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America. It is literally the
craziest thing I've read in a

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while. And while I can't say
that, I'm that surprised? I am

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pretty shocked. So go read it
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Because I really also need to
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So this is fucking

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insane. I just read Osama bin
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will be going through right
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fucking to me that terrorism has
been sold as this idea to the

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American people. And honestly,
just so many Western inhabitants

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within certain nations, that
this group of people, this

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random group of people just
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just fucking hates you just
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like, that is the root of
terrorism. It doesn't make

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sense. They just hate your
fucking nation. But reading this

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letter, it becomes apparent to
me that the actions of 911 and

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those acts committed against the
USA and its people. Were all

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just the build up of our
government failing other nations

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and majority of these
situations, and this letter was

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insanely eye opening. I really
urge everybody to Google and

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read it because I

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John C Dvorak: started out every
single bug by the way, a couple

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of things is overnight sensation
of the letter itself is of

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course a joke, of course. But is
there any membranes of these

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terrorists going back in time a
little bit? It makes it sound

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like it just started yesterday.
Does anyone remember from the

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60s the jackal, or the Lockerbie
shot shoot down of the PEN

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American Airlines who put the
company out of business? Things

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that took place in this in the
50s 60s 70s are the series of

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airline hijacks had made him
drive the planes to Cuba. Does

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anybody remember any of that?
No, no, no. This all started

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last night? Yes,

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Adam Curry: yes, it's insane.
I'm living through an

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existential crisis right now.
This is very IKEA, like, this is

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very slick. This is well done.
And they're all going to fall

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for it. The end and good luck,
politicians. Good luck to you.

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John C Dvorak: Well, here's this
couple of things come to mind.

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First of all, I want to go back
to the earlier clips you play

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before you got to this tangent,
which was about the ceasefire

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complaints and protests. Where's
they asking for the ceasefire in

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the Ukraine war? What's wrong?
Where's the protests about the

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Ukraine war? Nothing? How about
involved? That's the deal.

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Adam Curry: Well, it because it
is jus hate because the Lansky

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has literally gotten rid of the
Jews.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. And he's
supposedly Jewish. With a no

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ever gay

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Adam Curry: with a soft brigade.
Yeah, of course. Yeah. Of

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course. It's good. So, so just
so how insane this has gotten

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and this is the word of the day.
It's insane. Man. You know,

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John C Dvorak: this was somebody
wrote in Yes. LA's to look for I

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haven't heard it while you just
heard it from me.

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Adam Curry: So you know, that
somehow I got on the San

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Francisco grassroots campaign
mailing list for Robert Kennedy

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Jr. Oh, good. And, you know, so
I'm getting stuff all the time.

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And it's like, yeah, we're gonna
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John C Dvorak: a frequency too
high.

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Adam Curry: No, it's about one a
week. One A Well, that's not

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bad. No, no, not bad at all. And
you know, I've never responded.

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But at one point, they're even
saying, hey, curry, and this

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other person calling out a
couple people on the list. Join

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us. And we haven't heard from
me. I'm like, I'm being quiet

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over here. So now I get an email
from from the local grassroots

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Kennedy campaign. And that's a
locals. The one the same one San

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John C Dvorak: San Francisco.
No, no, no, no, the same one.

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Adam Curry: I am not absurd. He
is calling us absurd. If we know

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the other story, after spending
$1,000 of my own money, and

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countless hours on this
campaign. The truth I heard

447
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about six months ago has come
out in an ugly way. I have known

448
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for 30 years about the
conditions of Palestine. It's a

449
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created state that made us and
Britain that first vaccinated

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their population for Big Pharma.
I will actively work against Mr.

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Kennedy and no longer support
had. And it has a link. I'm

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John C Dvorak: sorry. Well, let
me die. And I misinterpreted

453
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what you just said. I thought
this letter came from the

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Kennedy campaign this woman has
turned but she also the Kennedy

455
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okay. She has the Kennedy
campaign woman that was running.

456
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What was the Kennedy campaign?
There was a person in charge and

457
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the book maybe or maybe not
affiliated with Kennedy, and out

458
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of the blue. She, after she's
got her mailing list built up?

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Yes, she turned on Kennedy.

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Adam Curry: And it's because of
his appearance on the Cuomo kid

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show. And she links to the video
which I shall play a clip of. So

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you can hear what outraged her
so much. I mean, I think that

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there's there's just a tsunami
of misinformation and kind of

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moral bankruptcy that we're
seeing on the college campuses

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about this issue. And you know,
the idea that Israel is a is an

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apartheid state because of the
Jewish state. Israel is the only

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nation in the region that does
not have an official religion.

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All the other surrounding
nations are Muslim, there's 40

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nations in the world 42 that
have official religions. There

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is not in Israel, Israel is a
free nation, it's a democracy.

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Palestinians in Israel can vote
they can hold political office,

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even the Prime Minister and the
President of Israel, if they if

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they if they win that vote, they
hold positions on the judiciary,

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every court, including the
Supreme Court, they serve in the

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Knesset. A couple of years ago,
a Palestinian judge and Arab

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judge convicted the Prime
Minister of Israel for

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corruption. Israel has freedom
for in Gaza. It is you get the

478
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death penalty for selling land
to which you there are no Jews

479
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and in Gaza. Oh, you you look at
this, this double standard that

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is being now applied to Israel's
behavior compared to the

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behavior of all the countries
around it. There's no other

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country that is a democracy in
the region. There's no other if

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you're a Palestinian, and you
want to criticize your

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government, you better do it in
Israel. Because if you do it in

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the West Bank, if you do it in
Gaza, if you do it in Jordan, if

486
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you do it in Syria, if you do it
in Lebanon, you're gonna either

487
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have your throat slit, or you're
gonna go to jail and be

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tortured. Oh, and you know, the
freedom that people have. So

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calling Israel an apartheid
state is such a, an absurd twist

490
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and perverted twist. And
ultimately, you know, if you're

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applying a double standard, it
is it reflects a bias and you'd

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have call that bias anti
semitism. It's faint. This is

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such an upheaval for the
political landscape. It's

494
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phenomenal. What's happening,
people there. Go ahead, up up.

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But people

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John C Dvorak: say that what
you're witnessing with that, I'm

497
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glad you got that emailing list.
Yes, that is part of the op. The

498
00:32:42,690 --> 00:32:45,420
part of the app is being
outraged that is Kennedy being

499
00:32:45,420 --> 00:32:49,230
so damn reasonable. As part of
an OP.

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Adam Curry: You know what I love
on Twitter right now at this

501
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:55,560
funny because we were just
talking about Candace Owens

502
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,890
about her being really too smart
for this dumb organization.

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Well, now she and Ben Shapiro
have successfully made the

504
00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:06,570
Middle East conflict about
themselves. This is this is

505
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:10,560
fantastic. Oh, I better go on
Tucker and talk about me me me

506
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,420
me me me. quoting Bible
scripture at each other on x.

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John C Dvorak: I was very dead.
That I watched that. Of course,

508
00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:23,070
course. And I didn't get any
clips here. We cannot for one

509
00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:25,530
thing Candace is huge. I don't
know how much coffee she's

510
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:29,940
drinking for a pregnant woman
but she person be talking is

511
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there with Shapiro's

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Adam Curry: now, yeah, well,
that's it's a million.

513
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,610
John C Dvorak: million. So yeah.
And so she's going on about one

514
00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:41,430
thing or another he Tucker he
can get a word in edgewise. But,

515
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,970
but Roger Roundy, one of our
great artists of the United

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00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:48,690
States, who's in the social he's
going on about how what a great

517
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:52,080
interview this is. It's not even
an interview. No, it's just

518
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,590
letting someone go off. How
about how great and I think that

519
00:33:55,590 --> 00:34:00,090
this feud is bull crap. If Dave
is not one of those phony

520
00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:03,060
baloney fuses show business
feud, you know, where people get

521
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:04,890
into a fake Leah's

522
00:34:04,890 --> 00:34:07,020
Adam Curry: show business feud.
And she's been picking fights

523
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:11,940
with Megyn Kelly, and it's this
about them. This is narcissism,

524
00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:14,040
narcissism. Um,

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John C Dvorak: you know, I'm a
little sick of the usual

526
00:34:16,410 --> 00:34:21,570
suspects, and that includes
Tucker. It includes her. It now

527
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:25,860
includes Jordan Peterson Hold
on. Mr. Crowder, and includes

528
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:31,140
Tim Poole, it and I would have
to Rogan is I don't think he's

529
00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:36,720
an unwitting member of this of
this clique. But they're all in

530
00:34:36,870 --> 00:34:41,790
so they all promote each other.
It's like a little blow job log

531
00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:42,570
rolling thing.

532
00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:47,790
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard about
a log role in a long time, but a

533
00:34:47,790 --> 00:34:52,830
blow job log roll that is a new
one. We should make that will

534
00:34:52,830 --> 00:34:53,010
make

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John C Dvorak: generally
referred to as a blow job. This

536
00:34:57,210 --> 00:35:00,900
is just a term. It's nothing to
do with the app. The sexual act

537
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,960
but it's of course the Jefferson
when you write up somebody in a

538
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,810
very you know this guy's the
best yeah well

539
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,140
Adam Curry: there's one more we
can add to the to the mix of

540
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:16,740
choosing sides to save his hides
Jimmy Dore Jimmy Dore now he

541
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:19,740
he's in a, is he Jewish I think
is probably Jewish, isn't he?

542
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:24,900
Maybe I look him up. Well, he
has the to live Jew crew because

543
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,060
he's Jewish. He's always
probably has his Jewish friends.

544
00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:30,870
So he does a very interesting
thing. And it caught my

545
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:34,530
attention because I really
didn't know much about the Grand

546
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:40,500
Mufti during the Second World
War. Who was the grand mufti of

547
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:41,490
Palestine

548
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,130
John C Dvorak: years ago? Who's
calling the shots at the time?

549
00:35:44,190 --> 00:35:45,930
Well, the hat. So

550
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Adam Curry: he pulls out a clip
from Netanyahu from eight years

551
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,710
ago, doesn't really say it was
really, really old. And in fact,

552
00:35:55,710 --> 00:35:59,490
Netanyahu sounds the same. And
here's how he rolled it out on

553
00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:02,100
his show and discuss it with his
two life Jew crew.

554
00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:04,590
Unknown: Here's the video I was
talking about. Listen, to listen

555
00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:07,830
to what Benjamin Netanyahu had
to say about Hitler. And the

556
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Arabs and the Jews.

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Want to exterminate the Jews at
the time you want to be said

558
00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:15,540
Hitler didn't want to
exterminate the Jews at the

559
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:21,780
time. So yeah, blaming. blamed
it on that. Oh, wow. Wow, wow.

560
00:36:22,110 --> 00:36:24,660
What can I play? I wouldn't play
it again. Because that's that's

561
00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:25,320
just as somebody

562
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,260
who wants to exterminate the
Jews at the time, he wanted to

563
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:34,020
expel the Jews. Who said he went
to if you expel them the wall

564
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:37,620
come here. So what should I do
with them?

565
00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:45,030
Burn them. So let me bring in my
two live ducru that I have on

566
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:47,610
today. What do you have to say
that is that that's kind of a

567
00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:48,600
head snapper, right?

568
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:54,060
It takes a lot to shock me at
this point, I actually stopped.

569
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Because yes, that in Yahoo is a
fascist. But if there was a

570
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:05,010
third rail or a presumed third
rail, in Jewish politics, it

571
00:37:05,010 --> 00:37:09,960
would be in any way to soften
the rough edges of aid off

572
00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:11,400
frickin Hitler.

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Adam Curry: So I go first of
all, I've never really learned

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much about the the grandmas.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, first of
all, Jimmy Dore is a Catholic.

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00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:21,060
Yes, yes. Yeah. The

577
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:23,490
Adam Curry: whole room told me
that yes. And the Grand Mufti

578
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was the grand mufti of Jerusalem
Palestine now so I go back I

579
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:34,770
right away find a report from
eight years ago. i i 24 is the

580
00:37:34,770 --> 00:37:39,210
station and here's a little
deeper analysis of what not yet

581
00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:44,310
and Yahoo said and what he then
retracted and more about this

582
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harsh I mean, I'll Hussaini

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Unknown: Israel's Prime Minister
likely set created a firestorm

584
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yesterday by suggesting that
former Jerusalem move to Hajj

585
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Amin al Husseini, and not Hitler
was responsible for the murder

586
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of 6 million Jews during the
Holocaust and our houses

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backtracked, saying that he did
not absolve the Nazi regime of

588
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,600
its crimes. I've been for years
correspondent Amon six UK has a

589
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,460
story. Bibi

590
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absolves Hitler for the
Holocaust. So reads the title of

591
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the lead story on The Daily
Beast today. Following the

592
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,560
Israeli Prime Minister's
controversial comment. Hitler

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didn't

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want to exterminate the Jews at
the time he wanted to expel the

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Jews.

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Netanyahu said it was the former
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem has a

597
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menial Hosseini who encouraged
Nazi dictator to kill Europe's

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Jews

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00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:37,500
Kajima Hussaini went on and
said, If you expel them, they'll

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all come here. So what should I
do with them? Yes, you said

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reactions were quick to come in
from all parties involved.

602
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Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas said that Netanyahu was

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comments exonerate Hitler, while
blaming the Mufti for genocide,

604
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and accuse the Israeli leader of
fabricating history. And the

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German government also denounced
Netanyahu statement assuming

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full responsibility for the
Jewish Holocaust. But did the

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Israeli Prime Minister get his
facts wrong? Not quite. In

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November 1941, at the Mufti met
with Adolf Hitler in Germany.

609
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Adler told us they need that the
Nazi regime supported the

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Palestinian cause, and rejected
the idea of a Jewish national

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home. Whether al Husseini
directly asked for the

612
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extermination of Europe's Jews
is unknown. But just four years

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later, in 1945, Yugoslavia
sought to indict the Mufti as a

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war criminal for his role in
recruiting 20,000 Muslim

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00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:45,300
volunteers for the SS who
participated in the killing of

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Jews in Croatia and Hungary. But
the Mufti fled to Cairo and

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00:39:49,740 --> 00:39:53,550
later to be root and passed away
in 1974.

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Adam Curry: So this grand mufti
wasn't without fault. He I think

619
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he did. Batum say the part that
he added support for the final

620
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solution. But this was all
fleshed out eight years ago and

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this was a this was a world
renowned event that took place

622
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and it's kind of crappy that
Jimmy Dore feels he has to be

623
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,850
has to do this. Based upon I
guess his audience. Look, our

624
00:40:20,850 --> 00:40:23,550
audience is running away.
Because we won't take aside

625
00:40:23,550 --> 00:40:27,330
we're not we don't like war.
here's the here's the latest,

626
00:40:27,450 --> 00:40:28,470
the latest email,

627
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John C Dvorak: we do the newest
deconstruction. Here's

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Adam Curry: Dr. John Allen. I'm
glad I never contributed to your

629
00:40:34,350 --> 00:40:35,820
podcast after you.

630
00:40:38,190 --> 00:40:41,640
John C Dvorak: Douche bag from
the get go, self admitted. And

631
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,420
now he quits.

632
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:45,750
Adam Curry: I'm glad I never
contributed to your podcast

633
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,120
after your lack of outrage over
XyO terrorism. Keep begging from

634
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,470
those producer morons for your
donations. I know that you think

635
00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:59,220
people are taking sides. But in
his time, it has always been

636
00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:03,300
Zionists versus humans. Dr.
John, watch

637
00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:05,220
John C Dvorak: his versus human,

638
00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:06,240
Adam Curry: right. Yes, that's

639
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,580
John C Dvorak: right. That's
right, that we put Yes, I

640
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:09,240
indecisive

641
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,720
Adam Curry: shyness versus
humans. It's always been Zinus

642
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,830
versus humans, even during the
Ottoman Empire. It's always been

643
00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:23,850
zydus versus humans. It's
politics. It's evil. That's

644
00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:24,660
John C Dvorak: very corrupting.

645
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,510
Adam Curry: And it's yes and and
and everybody

646
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:29,100
John C Dvorak: has shame
somebody has to get get

647
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,640
themselves as you like to put in
I think is a great term all spun

648
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,060
on up. overselling is pretty
much on the other side of the

649
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,430
globe. It's a big globe. And
meanwhile,

650
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:41,790
Adam Curry: you know, we have we
have people sleeping on our

651
00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:45,480
streets who have been told it'd
be great here. And then they get

652
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,360
to the cities that said, Yeah,
we welcome you and they're like,

653
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,940
I'm sleeping the call Get out of
my Get out of my Get off my

654
00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:51,570
lawn.

655
00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:54,420
John C Dvorak: It's we don't
even know what happened to the

656
00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:57,120
homeless in San Francisco. Yeah,
that

657
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Adam Curry: would be cool to
know, because it's just I mean,

658
00:42:00,090 --> 00:42:08,280
it was so fascinating to hear.
What's his face? Your Mayor,

659
00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:10,080
your governor, mayor, governor,

660
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:12,870
John C Dvorak: Governor Newsom,
the mayor. Yeah, Governor,

661
00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:13,890
London,

662
00:42:14,670 --> 00:42:17,730
Adam Curry: the governor to say,
Yeah, we just cleaned him up.

663
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,100
Unknown: I know, folks say, Oh,
they're just cleaning up this

664
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,500
place, because all those fancy
leaders are coming into town.

665
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,010
That's true. Because it's true.
It's true. But it's also true.

666
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:32,940
For months and months and months
prior to APEC. We've been having

667
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different conversations.

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Adam Curry: It's true.

669
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we've had
different conversations. And

670
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it's true. So we talked about
whether we should just

671
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exterminate them, or we hope
maybe they'll just die of

672
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:49,020
fentanyl overdoses on their
road. And then they had that's

673
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,450
one of the conversations the
other one was how well this is

674
00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:56,400
washed them out of town. I think
they bussed them to LA. It,

675
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,300
wouldn't we How about this?
You're homeless? Yeah. And

676
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:03,390
somebody comes up, he says, you
know, we're we have to clean up

677
00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:08,610
the city. We have to clean up
the city because we just have to

678
00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:13,050
clean up the city. We're
offering you a bus ticket. And

679
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:15,510
let me show you the weather.
It's gonna be stormy grey, or

680
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:18,630
it's gonna be terrible, by the
way it hasn't rained at all, is

681
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:21,720
washed off the whole weeks going
to rain, rain, rain, global

682
00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:26,340
climate change will send you
down where it's warmer in Los

683
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:29,910
Angeles. It's beautiful programs
for you. There's all kinds of

684
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:34,530
things you can stream.
bumfights, the whole thing in

685
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LA, and LA is much more
hospitable than we are. And we

686
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:40,980
right now you get to go
someplace. So you want the bus

687
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:41,640
ticket or not.

688
00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:45,330
Adam Curry: I they probably gave
him first class airfare. I'm not

689
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:48,450
even sure it was a bus ticket. i

690
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:51,690
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe. But
they somehow got him out of

691
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town.

692
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Adam Curry: The bottom line is
from the public intellectuals,

693
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to the alternative media, to
political parties. This whole

694
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thing is being abused. And with
it abusing Israelis,

695
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,880
Palestinians, white people,
brown people, children,

696
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:17,820
incubator babies, abusing all of
it for their own selfish mean

697
00:44:17,850 --> 00:44:25,050
John C Dvorak: commuters.
Commuters poor, hapless commuter

698
00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:29,550
Adam Curry: that they just want
to. It's a beautiful thing. It's

699
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:34,080
this is the thing that's being
used. It was what happened to

700
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,330
LGBTQ genocide, that genocides
gone. What happened to the Black

701
00:44:39,330 --> 00:44:42,780
Lives Matter genocide, but that
genocides gone What happened to

702
00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:47,550
the genocide of Ukraine? That
one's gone. It's so damning.

703
00:44:47,550 --> 00:44:53,160
It's so bad with with Ukraine
that listen to this. As the

704
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,770
Lensky is begging for more ammo,
he's begging for ammo, and then

705
00:44:58,770 --> 00:45:01,020
listen to what the European The
European Union is now

706
00:45:01,020 --> 00:45:04,440
responsible for the ammo. But
it's very telling what they say

707
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,640
in the short report.

708
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Unknown: But I see that Russia
is already losing soldiers and

709
00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:11,940
equipment and of leave faster
and on the larger scale than

710
00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:18,000
withstanding their pressure is
extremely difficult not to beat.

711
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:20,730
More Russian forces are
destroyed and you're ready for

712
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,630
the worst the overall situation
will be for the enemy. For the

713
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:25,470
rest of the war,

714
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,940
Ukrainian officials continue to
press their Western allies for

715
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:33,870
aid and weapons to counter
Russia's aggression. The EU's

716
00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:37,260
defense ministers reaffirmed
their support for Kyiv at a

717
00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:40,860
meeting in Brussels that warned
that the block could miss its

718
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:45,450
goal of supplying Ukraine with a
million artillery shells by next

719
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:45,960
March

720
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mean that we already have 1
million shots ready by March. So

721
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maybe we will not have 1 million
by March, by the way will depend

722
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on how quickly the oldest comes
to the industry and how quickly

723
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:04,020
the industry reacts.

724
00:46:04,530 --> 00:46:07,320
Adam Curry: So that's the EU
defense minister literally

725
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,950
saying, Hey, man, we don't have
any orders yet. The defense

726
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:14,070
industry needs orders. You know,
like invoices, signed payments

727
00:46:14,070 --> 00:46:18,570
made. You don't pay us. We don't
care about you. Zelinsky because

728
00:46:18,570 --> 00:46:21,900
no one wants to fund it anymore.
They're tired of it. No one

729
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:23,070
wants to pony up

730
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:25,920
John C Dvorak: the evidence
still we still have this this

731
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,530
need to get rid of spent
uranium.

732
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,320
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, there's
always something but he's he's

733
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,170
just saying hey, we need to
orders orders. We need orders

734
00:46:34,170 --> 00:46:36,660
now orders now. Orders.

735
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John C Dvorak: I have one
Ukraine report most will play.

736
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:44,310
Sure. This is interesting
because the Ukrainians now claim

737
00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:48,780
that they're making inroads on
retaking This is just like

738
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:52,290
highroller they're not doing any
What about the dumb bass or any

739
00:46:52,290 --> 00:46:55,050
of these? No, no, no, you're
going after Crimea, which is

740
00:46:55,050 --> 00:46:59,520
really far as I can really,
which is off limits? Yeah, I

741
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,600
suppose. But let's hear

742
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,240
Unknown: it. And Ukraine
officials and Kyiv now say

743
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,090
Ukrainian forces have
established a critical beachhead

744
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:10,110
in a bid to retake Russian held
Crimea. They report troops had

745
00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:13,830
crossed the nipro River near
Harrison and gained a foothold.

746
00:47:14,010 --> 00:47:17,370
From there they could outflank
Russian forces to the east

747
00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:19,380
Alenia from

748
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,660
the frontline is fairly fluid as
of today, and we cannot discuss

749
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:27,840
every single measure our defense
forces are undertaking, but the

750
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,780
fact is obvious that these
measures push the enemy back.

751
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:33,810
For now. We will not give more
details so that our plan can

752
00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:36,720
start working, which would allow
us to report later on great

753
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:37,560
successes.

754
00:47:37,740 --> 00:47:40,620
Russian officials acknowledged
Ukrainians have crossed the

755
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:44,640
river but insisted they're
taking heavy casualties. You

756
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:44,850
know,

757
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:49,290
Adam Curry: the it's getting so
bad with this the lies that are

758
00:47:49,290 --> 00:47:53,760
just falling apart before our
very eyes. That is fire gas that

759
00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,090
the the international what is
their name? The international

760
00:48:00,090 --> 00:48:03,240
coalition of investigative
journalists do you remember this

761
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:07,980
outfit? Probably not.

762
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,680
John C Dvorak: I probably not.
Well,

763
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:14,820
Adam Curry: they're they're
supported by a deciem

764
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:17,940
foundation, Arnold ventures bae
and Paul foundations Bertha

765
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:22,230
foundation CJF American donor
fund Creative Europe, the Fred

766
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:25,620
Foundation, the Golden Globe
Foundation, the John and

767
00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:29,190
Florence Doman Foundation, the
Open Society Foundations,

768
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,240
national democracy or National
Endowment for Democracy. They

769
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:40,020
now are funding or they have
always been funding this group,

770
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,920
and they're going after
journalists. And there's the

771
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:52,020
German Seymour Hersh and he's
just one and they're going after

772
00:48:52,020 --> 00:48:55,200
him now and they're gonna go
after a lot more journalists

773
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,380
because you know, they're not
funded by National Endowment for

774
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:00,360
Democracy or open society,

775
00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:03,120
Unknown: a leading German
journalist is facing allegations

776
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,000
of being in the pay of the
Kremlin, according to new

777
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,200
revelations by the International
Consortium of Investigative

778
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:14,100
Journalists disciple has long
been regarded in Germany as an

779
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:17,910
Independent Expert on Russia.
Nina, what more can you tell us

780
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,780
about Hoover disciple and the
allegations he's facing?

781
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:25,710
Luba disciple is very well known
here in Germany is an

782
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:29,040
influential voice has won awards
for his reporting has been

783
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,720
introduced to talk shows as the
German journalist with the best

784
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:37,170
access to Vladimir Putin has had
to sit down interviews with him,

785
00:49:37,170 --> 00:49:40,110
etc. But there is an
investigative group of

786
00:49:40,110 --> 00:49:43,560
journalists called Cyprus
confidential who are currently

787
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,800
looking into a big batch of
documents that they've got,

788
00:49:47,070 --> 00:49:51,420
where there are where there is
evidence that Russian oligarchs

789
00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:55,920
are trying to take influence on
influential European voices here

790
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,180
and they have found documents
that prove that for a book Sid

791
00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:02,910
zipper wrote about Putin he
received two payments from a

792
00:50:02,910 --> 00:50:06,180
company linked to Alexei
mordashov. Now, of course, an

793
00:50:06,180 --> 00:50:08,640
oligarch who is very close to
Putin. And since Russia's

794
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,330
invasion of Ukraine, he's on the
EU sanctions list. So as I build

795
00:50:12,330 --> 00:50:17,100
got 200,000 euros, and then
another 400,000 euros as part of

796
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,410
his sponsorship deal for the
book. And what's very, very

797
00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:22,440
tricky here is that the
publisher of the book says that

798
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,370
they had not been aware of such
a deal. And they have now sold

799
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:30,750
disciples book argues there was
no influence by third parties

800
00:50:30,750 --> 00:50:34,530
regarding the content of his
book. But he's also produced

801
00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:38,640
films for public broadcaster
ARD, and ARD also say that they

802
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,750
were not aware of any such
sponsorship deals. So they will

803
00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:45,990
have seriously undermined his
own journalistic credibility.

804
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:49,590
And this is probably not the
last case that we're going to be

805
00:50:49,590 --> 00:50:52,380
seeing, because these
investigative journalists are

806
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:54,510
continuing digging. Yes.

807
00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:57,900
John C Dvorak: Okay, I have a
couple of comments here. First

808
00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:02,730
of all, these pre sale deals
with publishers is not uncommon.

809
00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:05,370
But in fact, it's how you sell a
lot of books

810
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:07,320
Adam Curry: is how you get on
the list is that you get

811
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:10,380
John C Dvorak: this book, well,
we don't feel like publishing

812
00:51:10,380 --> 00:51:13,020
your book, or we don't see any
market for it, is what the

813
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:15,870
publisher will say, and then you
come back with what we've

814
00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:19,470
already pre sold. And you can
even name or not name doesn't

815
00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:23,490
usually you tell it who it is,
this guy has already contributed

816
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:27,150
$200,000, whatever the amount is
to buy this many copies of the

817
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:30,660
book. So you have pre sales,
immediate pre sales, that means

818
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:32,490
the publisher go ahead and
publish the book because they

819
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:37,500
can, it'll be it'll pay out.
Very common practice I, I've

820
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:41,610
seen it happened in America
everywhere, but it happens all

821
00:51:41,610 --> 00:51:46,620
the time. In fact, my favorite
is to go into a small stale

822
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,320
Adam Curry: Oh, we love small
tails, but it might be the man

823
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,130
Damn it

824
00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:52,080
John C Dvorak: with with Hearst.

825
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:57,090
Adam Curry: You gotta get on.
When I was at MIT, you got to do

826
00:51:57,090 --> 00:51:57,630
it. Right. I

827
00:51:57,630 --> 00:52:00,270
John C Dvorak: was at MIT with
the Hearst Corporation and going

828
00:52:00,270 --> 00:52:02,460
through the Media Lab, and I
didn't have to because I was

829
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:07,650
with them as a fly on the wall.
I didn't have to sign any NDAs

830
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,480
which everyone else all
journalists have to sign all

831
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,970
these NDAs you can't talk about
anything by so your

832
00:52:13,710 --> 00:52:16,170
Adam Curry: people you're going
fast viewer with her

833
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,290
John C Dvorak: the Hearst does
it will her as well. He brought

834
00:52:19,290 --> 00:52:20,910
me along at

835
00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:23,370
Adam Curry: MIT and you're just
hanging out and you're you're

836
00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:25,470
witnessing what's going on? Yes.

837
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:27,570
John C Dvorak: Okay. I'm
watching and going through the

838
00:52:27,570 --> 00:52:32,700
Media Lab. I got a good tour.
And so we go up there. And at

839
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:38,430
the end, Negroponte II is
talking about how they have done

840
00:52:38,430 --> 00:52:42,840
a deal with Stuart Brand to do a
media lab book. And you can look

841
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,050
it up on Amazon, you'll see it
Media Lab where the future's

842
00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:50,610
invented or someplace. And yes,
so we've already bought 50,000

843
00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:55,770
copies as an advantage. That was
how the book was sold. It was

844
00:52:55,770 --> 00:53:00,330
the MIT had purchased 50,000
copies of the book before the

845
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,200
book was even in print. Russians
are bragging about how they're

846
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,330
you know, they got a handle on
this and a handle on that. It's

847
00:53:06,330 --> 00:53:09,810
going to be great publicity. And
of course, the purpose of the

848
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:15,480
meetings were trying to gouge
the Chi purse Corporation, out

849
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,160
of some money for the Media Lab.
And the guy who was the CEO at

850
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,730
the time, Frank Beneke. He
wasn't going he was resisting

851
00:53:23,850 --> 00:53:28,200
hard, but he wasn't going for
any of it. And but they were

852
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,950
they were, they were pitching as
hard as they could. And it was

853
00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:34,410
quite interesting to be there.
And I was there for most of the

854
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:40,740
meeting until one moment where
Marvin Minsky, I believe I've

855
00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:44,280
told his brother's story before.
Marvin Minsky walks in and sees

856
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:50,100
me and he knows who I am. And he
gets upset. And they rouse both

857
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:57,270
Hearst and myself, we got kicked
out. It was too late.

858
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, so but it's so
interesting to see that these

859
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:03,480
journalists who know how these
deals work, because they're

860
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,810
journalists, they're probably
just jealous that they don't

861
00:54:06,810 --> 00:54:09,750
have a book deal where someone
pre buys it. But that, you know,

862
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:14,160
it's like, well, he's funded by
someone links to that guy. And

863
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,870
they're linked to everybody. You
know, journalists, goodbye.

864
00:54:19,350 --> 00:54:21,330
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
if you have a problem with

865
00:54:21,330 --> 00:54:25,560
somebody as a journalist, out,
write them, find out what their

866
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,410
what they're saying is wrong and
write about it. That's that's

867
00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:31,980
the way you normally do it. You
don't out the guy with a bunch

868
00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:36,360
of innuendo and smears kind of
an operation is that?

869
00:54:37,290 --> 00:54:40,800
Adam Curry: Well, when you're
funded by those big groups, and

870
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,910
you're at the cocktail parties,
you know, it's very, it's very

871
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:46,890
enticing. Oh,

872
00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:49,620
John C Dvorak: sure that you did
you get to try to do this to

873
00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:50,280
Hirsch.

874
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:54,270
Adam Curry: They're going to do
it to everybody. Anybody who's

875
00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:58,200
not on board with the message is
going to get it. That's just

876
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,030
that's, that's just the new way.
If you're a politician, you're

877
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:06,120
not on board, then you're gonna
get it. If you're a journalist,

878
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,390
you're not on board you're gonna
get it. The only thing that's

879
00:55:09,390 --> 00:55:11,550
left standing is podcasts.

880
00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:15,150
John C Dvorak: If you want to
call it scanning personally, I'm

881
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:18,630
sitting I'm sitting to that I
know you're still all that's

882
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:22,590
left all this left. Yeah, that's
gonna be there eventually you're

883
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:25,530
gonna find a way to get the
podcast to but no, I'm gonna get

884
00:55:25,530 --> 00:55:29,040
back to San Francisco and do a
couple of clips. They have Biden

885
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,240
China clip. Yes.

886
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:32,220
Adam Curry: This was an
interesting meeting. I'm glad

887
00:55:32,220 --> 00:55:36,120
I've expected you to come
through because it is your, your

888
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:39,480
front yard almost. You're
looking out the window as we

889
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,400
speak. And you can see and

890
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,790
John C Dvorak: I will mention
this last night is they decided

891
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:47,700
to show off and they did a
fireworks display specifically

892
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:52,080
for these, this Asian group. And
knowing that the Asians have

893
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,320
fireworks displays. I've been in
Asia and they've I've seen him

894
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,070
dynamite

895
00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:59,730
Adam Curry: dynamite literally,
literally dynamite. I

896
00:55:59,730 --> 00:56:03,180
John C Dvorak: would say that
this is the best fireworks

897
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:08,310
display I've seen on the bay for
ever. It has shells I've never

898
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:12,450
seen before. And it was like it
was only 15 minutes long, but it

899
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:19,320
was like 15 minutes of pure
finale. It was yells going off

900
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:25,560
every for every second of the 15
minutes Nice. Meanwhile, when

901
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,220
they do our Fourth of July
fireworks, it's poof, there's

902
00:56:29,220 --> 00:56:34,140
one poof there's another it's
pathetic by comparison, but no,

903
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:38,490
but we have some Asians in the
audience. Let's get let's get in

904
00:56:38,490 --> 00:56:43,860
Chinese communists. And the
streets are by the way lined

905
00:56:43,860 --> 00:56:46,020
with Chinese communist flags.
Yeah,

906
00:56:46,050 --> 00:56:48,840
Adam Curry: I saw that one
American fat is one little

907
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:54,150
American flag. And what is Janet
Yellen doing meeting meaning?

908
00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:59,340
Gee, she's on the little twerp
little nerd little elf

909
00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:00,720
John C Dvorak: to the health.

910
00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:03,600
Adam Curry: I think she isn't
taller. She knows she might be a

911
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,110
troll.

912
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,990
John C Dvorak: She looks kind of
like one. Yeah, she

913
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:09,120
Adam Curry: does. I mean, I hate
to rag on someone's appearance.

914
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,270
But

915
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:11,010
John C Dvorak: either way after
the whole meeting was over, he

916
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:14,640
got this. I'm gonna play the end
first, which is Biden yakking

917
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,960
away with the this is Biden
literate. And he says this in

918
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,930
his speech, which I think is a
great idea for a show title.

919
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:26,130
Literally woke up dead,

920
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,640
Unknown: by the way. And I'm Oh,
I guess I shouldn't identify

921
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,380
where it occurred. But, John, I
know two people near where I

922
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:39,180
live. Are kids literally
strangers where they woke up

923
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:44,190
dead. Someone inserted in
whether the young man did or not

924
00:57:44,670 --> 00:57:48,810
inserted in. Turkey was taken
fentanyl.

925
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:53,820
Adam Curry: Literally woke up
dead. That's that. Ladies and

926
00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:58,200
gentlemen. foam finger number
one. Murca. That's your guy

927
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,540
right there. That's your go.
Here

928
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:03,990
John C Dvorak: we go with the
report. This is Biden China's SF

929
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:04,800
one today

930
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,680
Unknown: in San Francisco
President Biden met face to face

931
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,860
with Chinese President Xi
Jinping for the first time in a

932
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:13,620
year. The two leaders are
announcing agreements on

933
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:16,860
military communication and a
crackdown on the Chinese

934
00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:20,010
chemicals used to make the
lethal drug fentanyl. But as

935
00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:23,400
Nick Schifrin reports from the
summit site, the goal was less

936
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,790
about breakthroughs and more
about stabilizing a troubled

937
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:29,220
relationship. President Biden

938
00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:32,850
went today in a handshake in
great honor. And a four hour

939
00:58:32,850 --> 00:58:36,090
summit. The leaders of the
world's largest economies, most

940
00:58:36,090 --> 00:58:39,840
advanced militaries and most
consequential competition said

941
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,050
they wanted their relationship
to be stable. It is paramount

942
00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:48,270
that you and I understand each
other clearly leader to leader

943
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:53,130
with no misconceptions or
miscommunication. We have to

944
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:56,160
ensure their competition does
not veer into conflict.

945
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,920
I'm still of the view that major
country competition is not the

946
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,160
prevailing trend of current
times and cannot solve the

947
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,370
problems facing China and the
United States or the world at

948
00:59:08,370 --> 00:59:11,010
large. The two sides are
agreeing to what a senior US

949
00:59:11,010 --> 00:59:14,490
official called a comprehensive
set of military communications,

950
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:16,950
Secretary of Defense Lloyd
Austin with his Chinese

951
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:20,880
counterpart, a job currently
empty the top US Indo Pacific

952
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,980
military commander with his
counterpart.

953
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:26,100
John C Dvorak: Do you hear what
he said?

954
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,850
Adam Curry: Yes. pointed out.

955
00:59:30,330 --> 00:59:35,280
John C Dvorak: He said Lloyd
Austin was his counterpart. Yes.

956
00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:37,620
Which is currently empty.

957
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,730
Adam Curry: Yes, he does not
have account what

958
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:44,250
John C Dvorak: does that mean?
I'm going to be meeting with my

959
00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:47,610
counterpart although there's
nobody there. It's just an empty

960
00:59:47,610 --> 00:59:51,210
room. There's, I guess the desk
I'll be talking to myself. I got

961
00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:55,050
a hand puppet. What is he
taught? What is this mean? He's

962
00:59:55,050 --> 00:59:58,590
taught he's with his counterpart
and there is no counterpart

963
00:59:58,620 --> 01:00:01,800
Adam Curry: so they're talking
to a deputy The I guess nobody

964
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,560
John C Dvorak: says anything
about No, no, he was talking to

965
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,700
nobody. Well, that

966
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,660
Adam Curry: that sounds about
right for his position. I guess

967
01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:12,600
the point is that they agree
that we'll call each other

968
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,520
before we send up a balloon.

969
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:15,900
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was a
big deal.

970
01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:20,010
Adam Curry: And balloons, that's
what they discussed. That was

971
01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:20,340
all that.

972
01:00:20,370 --> 01:00:22,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're
right. That's you summarize the

973
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,710
whole balloons. Here's part two,
but

974
01:00:25,710 --> 01:00:29,190
Unknown: US China divisions
remain most notably over Taiwan.

975
01:00:29,490 --> 01:00:32,430
Taipei confirmed for the first
time this week the US was

976
01:00:32,430 --> 01:00:36,450
helping Taiwan train to defend
the island. Beijing considers

977
01:00:36,450 --> 01:00:40,050
Taipei a breakaway province and
is increased its military

978
01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:43,890
intimidation. Today President
Biden is warning China not to

979
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:47,430
interfere with Taiwan's January
presidential election. Beijing

980
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:51,780
labels the front runner William
Lai a separatist. But senior US

981
01:00:51,780 --> 01:00:54,330
officials hope Beijing's
aggression toward Taiwan could

982
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,110
be quote inhibited by internal
problems. We are protests in

983
01:00:58,110 --> 01:01:01,200
2021 in the offices of the real
estate developer Evergrande

984
01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:04,920
revealed deep dissatisfaction
with the Chinese economy. Today,

985
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,650
more foreign direct investment
is flowing out of the country

986
01:01:07,650 --> 01:01:10,500
than coming in. It's a sign
international investors are

987
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:13,980
concerned by Beijing's economic
management targeting of Western

988
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:17,550
firms and their employees and
rising labor costs, says lawyer

989
01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:20,910
John Raimi, who specializes in
international business a few

990
01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:21,270
years

991
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:27,090
ago, everyone believed that to
be competitive, you had to have

992
01:01:27,210 --> 01:01:31,590
a presence in China. Today. I
haven't had anyone come to me

993
01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:36,240
honestly for three years asking
to Could you help me make an

994
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,820
investment in China? That's

995
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:41,700
Adam Curry: actually a
completely valid point. I mean,

996
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:46,050
here is the scary G the dictator
as our president called him

997
01:01:46,050 --> 01:01:50,730
later. Basically coming here
saying, Hey, man, hey, man,

998
01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:54,030
don't pull away bro. Let's
pretend was y'all that Taiwan GQ

999
01:01:54,030 --> 01:02:00,060
GQ, jaggy. I bought okay. But
this he's coming hat in hand.

1000
01:02:01,470 --> 01:02:03,570
John C Dvorak: And yesterday,
there was a lot of people that

1001
01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:06,390
interpreted this as had in hand
there's absolutely no reason you

1002
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:07,920
should have come at all know

1003
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,280
Adam Curry: why Woody and he's
met with every Jamocha already.

1004
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,020
You already met Gavin Newsom

1005
01:02:14,310 --> 01:02:16,350
John C Dvorak: yet Oh, come on,
Gavin.

1006
01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:20,850
Adam Curry: You had a Gavin
date? I mean, come on. This is

1007
01:02:20,850 --> 01:02:25,080
like this is this is the big
scary guy. Why don't we Why

1008
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,020
didn't Biden why you dictator
and punch him right in the face.

1009
01:02:29,010 --> 01:02:33,750
Because it's bull crap. It's
bull crap. We need China to sell

1010
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:36,480
us stuff and they need our
dollars. That's it's it's a

1011
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:43,350
system. Everybody knows this.
Whoa. At least it cleaned up San

1012
01:02:43,350 --> 01:02:44,880
Francisco. Yeah.

1013
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,380
John C Dvorak: It's alarming.
Actually supplies go to part

1014
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:51,060
three is a shorty. US

1015
01:02:51,060 --> 01:02:53,250
Unknown: officials believe that
trend has helped lead to a

1016
01:02:53,250 --> 01:02:56,550
Chinese charm offensive ahead of
the summit, including a recent

1017
01:02:56,550 --> 01:02:59,670
English language article in
state run. Shinhwa featuring

1018
01:02:59,670 --> 01:03:02,730
Shenzhen pings decade old
interest in quote, friendship

1019
01:03:02,730 --> 01:03:06,300
with America. She is expected to
take that message to American

1020
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:09,960
CEOs tonight. He will tell them
China is still a good

1021
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,860
investment.

1022
01:03:11,790 --> 01:03:15,420
Adam Curry: Bank. It's really
amazing to me all the narrative

1023
01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:19,290
about China just falls apart.
What is what is GE really afraid

1024
01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:20,520
of? Is he afraid of Putin?

1025
01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:23,970
John C Dvorak: I mean, no, he's
not afraid, afraid of his own

1026
01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:25,230
people. Yes,

1027
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:27,630
Adam Curry: yes, that's exactly
like people.

1028
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:30,120
John C Dvorak: This is a
management nightmare. Now the

1029
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Chinese have been adept at it
just homeless historically,

1030
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:40,320
they're really talented at
managing hordes of people, which

1031
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,840
makes them somewhat dangerous,
but it makes them very dangerous

1032
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,660
in industrial settings, because
they like Foxconn, they can

1033
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:49,890
manage, you know, 100,000 people
on an assembly line kind of or

1034
01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:54,180
not, I'll make an Apple phones.
So here's the last clip in this

1035
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:54,600
group.

1036
01:03:54,750 --> 01:03:57,270
Unknown: Finally, like we know
that Xi Jinping arrival was met

1037
01:03:57,270 --> 01:04:01,230
with a number of protests in and
around San Francisco. Do we know

1038
01:04:01,230 --> 01:04:03,630
if the Chinese leader saw any of
those?

1039
01:04:03,690 --> 01:04:06,180
It's a good question. I'm not I
don't know if he saw them

1040
01:04:06,180 --> 01:04:09,660
personally. But Chinese
diplomats took pains, according

1041
01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:13,410
to US officials before the
arrival to make sure that they

1042
01:04:13,410 --> 01:04:17,010
asked you official US officials
exactly what Xi Jinping would

1043
01:04:17,010 --> 01:04:20,460
see looking out of his windows
going to each of these events.

1044
01:04:20,610 --> 01:04:22,830
And as an aside, our bus
actually had to go around

1045
01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:26,400
protests outside this summit
site, which is completely locked

1046
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,330
down. There is of course
inordinate focus in the Chinese

1047
01:04:30,330 --> 01:04:33,780
system on the leader on Xi
Jinping. But she especially has

1048
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:37,020
consolidated control US
officials believe that he really

1049
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:40,740
is making his own judgment. And
that makes this kind of high

1050
01:04:40,740 --> 01:04:43,950
level diplomacy today, this kind
of Summit, all the more

1051
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:46,650
important and all the more
reminiscent, frankly, of early

1052
01:04:46,650 --> 01:04:49,170
Cold War diplomacy between the
United States and the Soviet

1053
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:49,530
Union.

1054
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,870
John C Dvorak: He changed the
subject right. And ended

1055
01:04:55,740 --> 01:04:59,820
question about this. She she
sees anything and he goes on

1056
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:01,710
about Oh, he's a dictator.

1057
01:05:02,070 --> 01:05:06,240
Adam Curry: All right, I've a
report here from CBS, which is

1058
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,970
always fun because a CBS Morning
you know, when we get Gale, you

1059
01:05:08,970 --> 01:05:12,660
know, it's going to be high
level. And they brought in Mark

1060
01:05:12,660 --> 01:05:17,160
Esper. Wasn't he our defense
secretary at one point? Yes. He

1061
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,110
John C Dvorak: was one of the
Yeah, I think you

1062
01:05:19,110 --> 01:05:21,960
Unknown: just spoke yesterday,
just outside San Francisco,

1063
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,810
President Biden sat down with
China's Zhi Jing ping for their

1064
01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:28,200
first face to face meeting. In a
year's time the two leaders

1065
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,050
pledged to ease tensions between
the two countries and President

1066
01:05:31,050 --> 01:05:34,170
Biden says they made important
progress with agreements to

1067
01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:37,380
combat the Fentanyl crisis and
also reestablish communication

1068
01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:40,320
between the two countries armed
forces. That's a biggie Joining

1069
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,710
us now is former Secretary of
Defense Mark Esper who served in

1070
01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:46,380
the Trump administration. Mr.
Secretary, thank you very much

1071
01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:49,800
for being here. Former
paratrooper for West Point grad.

1072
01:05:49,830 --> 01:05:52,800
Oh, given his Hunter iFIX.
There, in addition to being

1073
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:56,370
Secretary of Defense, you know,
this stuff I was say so he knows

1074
01:05:56,370 --> 01:05:57,180
his stuff. He knows.

1075
01:05:58,140 --> 01:06:01,140
Adam Curry: He knows. He knows.
Yeah.

1076
01:06:01,350 --> 01:06:06,150
John C Dvorak: This is CBS
having to give the guy some Bona

1077
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:08,670
feeties because they mentioned
Trump.

1078
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:11,220
Adam Curry: Yeah, he knows his
stuff. Yeah, he was with Trump.

1079
01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:12,660
But he knows Trump. And

1080
01:06:12,660 --> 01:06:15,120
John C Dvorak: besides that, he
was also this, this, this and

1081
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,960
this and this and this. He knows
his stuff. Good. Don't get

1082
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,900
should ignore it. Yes. Yeah,
we'll rewind it

1083
01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:23,850
Unknown: so we can hear that
forces. That's a biggie. Joining

1084
01:06:23,850 --> 01:06:27,270
us now is former Secretary of
Defense Mark Esper who served in

1085
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:29,910
the Trump administration. Mr.
Secretary, thank you very much

1086
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:33,360
for being here. Former
paratrooper for West Point grad,

1087
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:37,770
in addition to being Secretary
of Defense, you know this. So he

1088
01:06:37,770 --> 01:06:38,490
knows his stuff.

1089
01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:42,660
Adam Curry: You know, you're
even though you're Trump, you

1090
01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:43,530
know, your stuff.

1091
01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:46,980
Unknown: What takeaways from
this meeting? And how damaging

1092
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:49,620
if you can put it in context?
Was this dictator comment that

1093
01:06:49,620 --> 01:06:52,440
President Biden said off the
cuff near the end of things?

1094
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:54,600
Well, look, I think overall,
it's good that they're meeting

1095
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,540
the rules to look to biggest
most powerful countries meeting

1096
01:06:57,570 --> 01:06:59,700
is a good thing that we talk,
right. one

1097
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:02,040
Adam Curry: guy's worse than the
other guy's brain dead. Wow,

1098
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,020
what a top meeting that was. And

1099
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,300
Unknown: the two agreements that
they're touting coming out of it

1100
01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:08,550
is an agreement to have the
military's talk frequently,

1101
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:11,190
which is important that when I
was secretary defense, I tried

1102
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:13,410
to meet with my counterpart, at
least every three months to

1103
01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:16,920
talk, keep communication open,
build a rapport, if you will, so

1104
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,560
that when times got tough, you
could open up that line and talk

1105
01:07:19,590 --> 01:07:20,340
Hey, man,

1106
01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:24,450
Adam Curry: we got to balloon
your balloon. Hey, man, I'm just

1107
01:07:24,450 --> 01:07:26,220
calling to check on the balloon
things.

1108
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,620
Unknown: The other one is the
fentanyl agreement, which, right

1109
01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:31,680
because fentanyl is killing
100,000 Americans a year the

1110
01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:35,520
shipping made that same
agreement to President Obama and

1111
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,370
he sent me that same agreement
to President Trump. Yeah, right.

1112
01:07:38,370 --> 01:07:42,240
So I think right, right,
President made two things. Two

1113
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,180
statements are important one he
did, truthfully, candidly say

1114
01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:50,160
that Xi Jinping is a dictator,
which he is right, controls. The

1115
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,260
secondly, he says we're
basically not going to trust

1116
01:07:52,260 --> 01:07:55,620
them. We got to verify what they
do, because China rarely keeps a

1117
01:07:55,620 --> 01:07:57,480
promise. Keeps a commitment. You
think that

1118
01:07:57,570 --> 01:07:58,560
they're hot on the progress?

1119
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,340
Adam Curry: slanty eyed liars?

1120
01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:05,130
Unknown: No, because China needs
us right now more than we need

1121
01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:08,970
them. Why? Because their economy
is in the pits right now. US

1122
01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:09,600
investment we

1123
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,240
Adam Curry: don't know is that
he's no. He said, This is what

1124
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:12,780
are you drinking?

1125
01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:17,220
John C Dvorak: I heard you we
had some people send us some new

1126
01:08:17,220 --> 01:08:20,430
stuff. But just I'm finishing
off the polar another finishing

1127
01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:22,110
up the polar. Okay. All right.
We

1128
01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:24,600
Unknown: are in Chinese sorry.
Because their economy is in the

1129
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,690
pits, right? They need us
investment. They need us

1130
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,600
consumer sales, they would
purchase. Yeah, they do forth

1131
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,680
and so on. They have a crisis.
And that represents 25% of their

1132
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,010
GDP. They got some social unrest
going on. China is not in a good

1133
01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:41,550
state of affairs. And Jason ping
is rightfully concerned, I think

1134
01:08:41,550 --> 01:08:41,670
they

1135
01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:43,980
Adam Curry: all got together
just to say how are we going to

1136
01:08:43,980 --> 01:08:49,050
manage this crash that is coming
when the entire system collapses

1137
01:08:49,050 --> 01:08:51,900
upon itself? We're going to
blame you a little bit and you

1138
01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:54,420
can blame us a little bit. And
you know, I'll call you a

1139
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:58,050
dictator. You call me a douche,
or whatever. I don't think there

1140
01:08:58,050 --> 01:09:01,350
was anything else I did discuss.
And he said, and by the way, I'm

1141
01:09:01,350 --> 01:09:03,180
gonna get going now I'm gonna
call you a dictator.

1142
01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:05,250
Unknown: But we are a Chinese
officials reacting to the

1143
01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:08,520
dictator comments saying it's
extremely wrong. And you're

1144
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,910
responsible for sort of, I don't
want to say negate the goodwill

1145
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:12,900
that we made yesterday,

1146
01:09:12,899 --> 01:09:15,479
but doesn't that put a little
bit of tainted shirts a little

1147
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,569
bit? Sure. He does. That's
right. But we'll Clean up on

1148
01:09:18,569 --> 01:09:20,969
aisle six today from the White
House. President Biden has been

1149
01:09:20,969 --> 01:09:23,939
more candid that I think most
people would would prefer and

1150
01:09:23,939 --> 01:09:26,519
his administration, right, he
said a couple years ago on four

1151
01:09:26,519 --> 01:09:28,259
separate occasions that the
United States would come to

1152
01:09:28,259 --> 01:09:31,409
Taiwan's defense, and that's
important as well, I think that

1153
01:09:31,409 --> 01:09:34,019
is an issue that we haven't
heard much about, right is

1154
01:09:34,049 --> 01:09:36,989
Taiwan, right? Why is that
significant? That is clearly a

1155
01:09:36,989 --> 01:09:39,719
flashpoint where we can see the
United States and China get in

1156
01:09:39,719 --> 01:09:42,689
some type of conflict. And
importantly, Taiwan has

1157
01:09:42,689 --> 01:09:45,239
important elections coming up in
two months in January, and

1158
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:47,009
they're just going to be a
change in power. And China's

1159
01:09:47,009 --> 01:09:48,959
very is watching this very
closely.

1160
01:09:50,609 --> 01:09:53,999
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. It's a
script. It's a script and they

1161
01:09:53,999 --> 01:09:57,749
all had hookers and blow and
blow off some fireworks. This

1162
01:09:57,749 --> 01:09:59,699
was staged bull crowd.

1163
01:09:59,850 --> 01:10:00,840
John C Dvorak: Oh, We had a lot
of

1164
01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:05,370
Adam Curry: this stage bullcrap.
They did bring up Trump with the

1165
01:10:05,370 --> 01:10:08,100
Esper briefly. Mr. Secretary,
you seem to have survived the

1166
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:09,660
Trump administration. There are
no most.

1167
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,880
John C Dvorak: Wow, did you get
a God out alive? He

1168
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,280
Unknown: does for Secretary, you
seem to have survived the Trump

1169
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,950
administration. There are no mug
shots of us that I've seen on

1170
01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:25,410
you. For Christmas, coming for
Christmas. Are you concerned

1171
01:10:25,410 --> 01:10:27,660
about him possibly getting back
into the White House?

1172
01:10:27,900 --> 01:10:30,450
Absolutely. I've said on several
occasions, he's a threat to

1173
01:10:30,450 --> 01:10:32,850
democracy know what we've seen
come out.

1174
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,870
Adam Curry: He's a threat to
democracy. He's a threat to

1175
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:38,280
democracy from

1176
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,840
Unknown: him the last few
months, and certainly the last

1177
01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:42,660
couple of weeks is it's going to
be about retribution. It's going

1178
01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:45,420
about using about weaponizing.
The institutions of government.

1179
01:10:45,420 --> 01:10:45,660
This

1180
01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:46,560
John C Dvorak: is a script

1181
01:10:46,590 --> 01:10:48,540
Adam Curry: and of course it is
Why else do you think he's on?

1182
01:10:48,570 --> 01:10:55,290
Wait a minute, this is this is
yet another example of Trump's

1183
01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:00,870
poor judgment in hiring. This
guy's a douchebag. Well, he's an

1184
01:11:00,870 --> 01:11:05,010
insider. He's a spook. Remember,
he's on CIA broadcast systems in

1185
01:11:05,010 --> 01:11:10,920
the morning. It's casual. It's
Cavalier. They miss really. Big

1186
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,560
news was a Trump guy was a man
who was Trump guy, but he's,

1187
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:16,590
he's the real deal. He's bad at
him. I'm a good guy. But you

1188
01:11:16,590 --> 01:11:19,320
know, Trump is danger to
democracy from him

1189
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,060
Unknown: the last few months and
certainly the last couple of

1190
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,730
weeks is it's going to be about
retribution. It's going about

1191
01:11:23,730 --> 01:11:26,310
using about weaponizing the
institutions of our government

1192
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:28,800
to to go after his political
enemies and I

1193
01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:32,520
Adam Curry: really unlike what's
happening to him, okay. troubles

1194
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:32,760
me. It

1195
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,400
Unknown: concerns me. What this
mean troubles me

1196
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,430
Adam Curry: concerns me that,
you know, the President might go

1197
01:11:38,430 --> 01:11:42,360
after his his, his political
opponents, it concerns me but

1198
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,650
no, let's let's go after it

1199
01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:46,230
Unknown: troubles me. It
concerns me what this may mean

1200
01:11:46,230 --> 01:11:48,990
for our great Republic, great
Republic and our country. Mark,

1201
01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:50,340
we appreciate you joining us.
Thank you for

1202
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,310
John C Dvorak: joining me for a
great Republic.

1203
01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:55,740
Adam Curry: Well, you know, you
know who else is back on the

1204
01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:59,550
scene with the Trump hate with
their rerunning scripts all over

1205
01:11:59,550 --> 01:12:05,250
the place? Called bear? Had
Barbra Streisand on the show?

1206
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:05,820
Oh, is

1207
01:12:05,820 --> 01:12:07,920
John C Dvorak: she going to
leave the country again? I liked

1208
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,450
by I liked Biden. I think he's
done a good job. I think he's

1209
01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:13,530
compassionate.

1210
01:12:13,980 --> 01:12:15,000
Unknown: He's smart.

1211
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:18,930
He supports the right things.
How do you feel about the

1212
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:20,820
specter of a second Trump
administration?

1213
01:12:21,450 --> 01:12:26,880
I will move. I can't live in
this country. If that's his he

1214
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,110
became president.

1215
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:32,100
Where would you go? Where would
you go? To England? Yeah,

1216
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,790
Adam Curry: go. I like England.
England will welcome you with

1217
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:36,600
open arms.

1218
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,140
John C Dvorak: How many times
has she said this over the

1219
01:12:40,140 --> 01:12:43,500
years? She was gonna do it with
George Bush. If George W. Bush

1220
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:45,960
had gotten reelected, she was
gonna leave the country.

1221
01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:50,670
Adam Curry: Yeah, now it's just
all what

1222
01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:53,160
John C Dvorak: is what is it?
Well, I mean, you don't bring a

1223
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,740
guest on to do this. But you
could say, Well, you said this

1224
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:56,790
before.

1225
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,760
Adam Curry: No, he's not going
to do that. Now. He went

1226
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,200
straight into how about anti
semitism? connect that to Trump?

1227
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:05,370
Yeah,

1228
01:13:05,370 --> 01:13:08,130
John C Dvorak: you want to make
a push? Even though Trump's

1229
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:10,350
daughter is uh, yeah,

1230
01:13:10,380 --> 01:13:12,960
Adam Curry: that you know,
what's, what's interesting. I've

1231
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:18,000
received a lot of different
emails and correctly so about

1232
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,980
fentanyl since that was on the
on the docket with GE to talk

1233
01:13:22,980 --> 01:13:29,700
about fentanyl. And the main
thing that people are pointing

1234
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:35,340
out to me is that it is a farce
that you can overdose from

1235
01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:40,410
touching fentanyl from handling
fentanyl. From casually inhaling

1236
01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:44,610
some fentanyl that's dusted
around you, um, that this is

1237
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,200
this is a you know, so kind of
following on with the you know

1238
01:13:49,230 --> 01:13:51,600
how dangerous it is and it's
going to you know,

1239
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,510
John C Dvorak: that was almost
that car that got confiscated,

1240
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,520
and then sold on auction.

1241
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:58,920
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
couple of things going on. There

1242
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,450
was a case in this. I have a
clip here as a Florida cop,

1243
01:14:03,450 --> 01:14:08,340
female cop. They stopped
somebody who I guess had

1244
01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:13,560
fentanyl or was on fentanyl. And
then all of a sudden she ODS on

1245
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,310
fentanyl. But it wasn't an OD on
fentanyl. And they brought into

1246
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:21,180
doctors to say no, no, this this
is she just had a panic attack.

1247
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,620
They revived her with Narcan
from the panic attack. But they

1248
01:14:25,650 --> 01:14:29,670
are very specific to point out
that this whole idea of just a

1249
01:14:29,670 --> 01:14:32,880
one whiff or one touch I'm not
trying to say fentanyl is great,

1250
01:14:32,910 --> 01:14:38,400
obviously. But we have to be
realistic because we need the

1251
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,240
truth. This is

1252
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,330
Unknown: really a sensitive
topic that no one including the

1253
01:14:42,330 --> 01:14:45,570
medical community is trying to
discount the danger our law

1254
01:14:45,570 --> 01:14:49,140
enforcement officers face every
day. I took this situation to

1255
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:52,440
two of the world's most renowned
experts on fentanyl. These

1256
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:55,740
doctors literally wrote the
studies about this drug and its

1257
01:14:55,740 --> 01:15:00,360
effects. They insist even after
watching this video. It was In

1258
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:01,260
overdose,

1259
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:05,010
there's just no practical way in
an outdoor environment. That

1260
01:15:05,010 --> 01:15:06,270
could happen. Dr.

1261
01:15:06,270 --> 01:15:09,930
Lewis Nelson of Rutgers medical
school co published a prominent

1262
01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:13,620
study saying passive fentanyl
exposure is nearly impossible,

1263
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:16,860
meaning you simply can't
overdose by coming in contact

1264
01:15:16,860 --> 01:15:20,280
with it. He says a small dose
away from his sleeve or inhaled

1265
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,440
wouldn't cause an overdose.

1266
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,250
You've seen TV where they put
out a line with a huge, you

1267
01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:29,250
gotta have a good amount to get
in your body. It's not the not

1268
01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:31,680
going to get a little powder on
your hand and put in your nose.

1269
01:15:31,710 --> 01:15:34,590
You're not going to get sick
from that. Toxicology

1270
01:15:34,590 --> 01:15:37,680
experts use the body camera
video released by the various

1271
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,920
police department to support
their analysis. While medical

1272
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,670
emergency is indeed happening.
They say it's not consistent

1273
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:48,240
with that of an overdose officer
benek spoke with Fox 35

1274
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,580
Believing the Narcan is was
saved her life

1275
01:15:50,610 --> 01:15:52,230
Narcan only works to reverse

1276
01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:54,030
Adam Curry: opiate overdoses.

1277
01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:56,910
Unknown: It does not work to get
you out of an anxiety attack.

1278
01:15:56,970 --> 01:16:00,090
While both doctors say it was a
good idea to use Narcan while

1279
01:16:00,090 --> 01:16:03,420
assessing the situation they
don't believe is what brought

1280
01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:07,050
her back. Most doctors believe
officer Banik was having a

1281
01:16:07,050 --> 01:16:10,440
reaction to what happened. I
just don't think it was an

1282
01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:12,120
overdose. Because it

1283
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,560
seems so real. And I think these
are all legitimate concerns. I

1284
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,530
don't think anybody's trying to
pull a fast one here. I think

1285
01:16:19,530 --> 01:16:21,990
these people really believe
they're exposed because this

1286
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:25,380
what they've been told, happens,
doctors, hopefully

1287
01:16:25,380 --> 01:16:28,050
this can be a teaching moment
for many including law

1288
01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:31,740
enforcement about fentanyl. They
want people to know it's safe to

1289
01:16:31,740 --> 01:16:34,950
passively come in contact with
fentanyl and jump in to help

1290
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:36,510
someone who is overdosing.

1291
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:41,940
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now I
should bring this up. Although I

1292
01:16:41,940 --> 01:16:45,660
haven't done my research on it.
It makes nothing but sense it

1293
01:16:45,660 --> 01:16:50,160
this is the power of suggestion.
Yes. Yes. And as these people

1294
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,960
have been hypnotized. Well, it's
important

1295
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,480
Adam Curry: because we're being
psyops at this very moment that

1296
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:58,620
terrorists are going to drop
fentanyl in America was going to

1297
01:16:58,620 --> 01:17:02,250
kill hundreds of 1000s of people
in cities, you know, it's not

1298
01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:07,740
necessarily true. So it's, it's
a fear tactic that may have just

1299
01:17:07,740 --> 01:17:10,530
doesn't have a basis in science,
science.

1300
01:17:11,940 --> 01:17:14,910
John C Dvorak: Speeches, I don't
want to change topics because I

1301
01:17:14,910 --> 01:17:17,220
want to go back to what you're
doing. But I want to play two

1302
01:17:17,220 --> 01:17:20,430
clips which are which are kind
of related to this idea of this,

1303
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:25,410
of this power of suggestion.
Okay. And once as well as the

1304
01:17:25,410 --> 01:17:29,160
second clip is the one that
said, really gets my attention.

1305
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,040
But this is about the loneliness
we talked about. Yes.

1306
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:34,980
Adam Curry: Yes. The loneliness
I have. I have thoughts about

1307
01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:36,870
this. And we're at limit what's
the what's the name of your

1308
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:37,620
report here.

1309
01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:40,650
John C Dvorak: These are Yale is
judiciary has to do with this.

1310
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,550
This suicide in Yale. And

1311
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:46,740
Adam Curry: groovy, it's, I see

1312
01:17:48,090 --> 01:17:54,330
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR where PBS

1313
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:57,660
higher education is facing a
student mental health crisis.

1314
01:17:57,690 --> 01:18:01,110
That's the focus tonight of our
series rethinking college and

1315
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:04,530
are reporting on early warnings
America's youth mental health

1316
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:08,310
crisis. We start with Yale
University, which earlier this

1317
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:11,520
year settled a lawsuit following
the death of a student by

1318
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,690
suicide in 2021. According to
the agreement, the university

1319
01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:19,140
will now allow students more
flexibility to take lighter

1320
01:18:19,140 --> 01:18:22,530
course loads and to keep their
health care while on medical

1321
01:18:22,530 --> 01:18:26,340
leave. Yale agreed to the policy
after a group of alumni and

1322
01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:29,370
students sued the school,
arguing the policies

1323
01:18:29,370 --> 01:18:32,310
discriminated against students
with mental health issues.

1324
01:18:32,610 --> 01:18:36,000
Willow Sylvester is a Yale
graduate who was part of that

1325
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,330
lawsuit, she explained what
things were like before the

1326
01:18:39,330 --> 01:18:41,100
settlement. When I

1327
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:46,500
started at Yale, I just stopped
seeing my therapist and I felt

1328
01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:50,220
super isolated. Fast forward to
my senior year I was a first

1329
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:52,470
year counselor, I was working
directly with first year

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01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:56,850
students and almost every single
one reported the same feelings

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01:18:56,850 --> 01:19:00,240
of feeling isolated on campus.
Mental Health Justice at Yale

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01:19:00,270 --> 01:19:03,240
was founded in the immediate
aftermath of Rachel

1333
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,600
Scarborough's and bombs passing
by suicide. She was a first year

1334
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,320
student, the resources that she
lacked and the policies that

1335
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,930
made her feel like she didn't
have the help that she needed

1336
01:19:12,990 --> 01:19:17,910
were very, very clear, she had
spoken publicly about feeling

1337
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:20,670
this need to move down to a part
time course load. And if she

1338
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:24,000
could just move down to part
time courses, she would be able

1339
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,640
to get on top of her mental
health, but that that was not an

1340
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,490
option to you. Another thing
which was also related to why

1341
01:19:29,490 --> 01:19:33,330
Rachel wanted to go part time is
maintaining access to health

1342
01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:36,990
insurance when you're on leave
or withdrawal. If she had gone

1343
01:19:36,990 --> 01:19:40,620
home and taken a leave for her
mental health, she would lose

1344
01:19:40,620 --> 01:19:43,560
access to her your health
resources and also her your

1345
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,710
mental health resources while
she was home that she needed

1346
01:19:46,710 --> 01:19:49,620
those. Both of those as a result
of the settlement are now

1347
01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:52,170
something that students can do
so students on leave maintain

1348
01:19:52,170 --> 01:19:54,870
access to their health
insurance, and students can go

1349
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:59,010
down to a part time Courseload
we absolutely should not have

1350
01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:02,640
had to lose a life To get these
changes, rolling mental

1351
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,730
Adam Curry: health resources is
the best name for

1352
01:20:05,730 --> 01:20:11,040
antidepressants I've ever heard.
Mental health resources, she

1353
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:15,630
would lose her access to mental
health resources. And therefore

1354
01:20:15,630 --> 01:20:20,730
she passed by suicide. Oh my
god. We don't we're not. We're

1355
01:20:20,730 --> 01:20:24,720
not. We're not speaking that
depart. The

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,630
John C Dvorak: second clip here
is the one that kind of reminds

1357
01:20:27,630 --> 01:20:28,110
me of the

1358
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:32,310
Adam Curry: Yale gives students
health insurance. How does this

1359
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:32,820
work?

1360
01:20:34,050 --> 01:20:36,000
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
when I at the University of

1361
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,610
California, when you're a
student, you have a free you

1362
01:20:38,610 --> 01:20:41,340
have free. It's like socialized
medicine. Yeah.

1363
01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:43,200
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So that's
right. So you can get your

1364
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,210
Adderall for your test. You

1365
01:20:45,210 --> 01:20:49,830
John C Dvorak: go to, to call it
hospital and you'd make an

1366
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:52,800
appointment, you go see doctors,
and they, you know, if you have

1367
01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:55,440
whatever, you need to have a
dentist there, too. I had a

1368
01:20:55,770 --> 01:21:01,140
tooth filled there once. Anyway,
so let's so I don't know what

1369
01:21:01,140 --> 01:21:06,570
what the deal is. So part two is
the part that interests me and

1370
01:21:06,570 --> 01:21:08,850
so far is what we talked about.
So

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01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:11,190
Unknown: what more can
universities and colleges do to

1372
01:21:11,190 --> 01:21:15,630
address the academic pressure?
The loneliness that students are

1373
01:21:15,630 --> 01:21:18,240
feeling? Is this a structural
thing that colleges have to

1374
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,980
address? There's definitely

1375
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:23,790
struck referral points to it. So
we talk about how has mental

1376
01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:26,280
health included in everything
that we're working on in college

1377
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,130
campuses, right. So right things
like leave policies, if

1378
01:21:29,130 --> 01:21:31,650
someone's really struggling? How
do we make sure that when they

1379
01:21:31,650 --> 01:21:34,260
leave, they feel comfortable
asking for help, that they feel

1380
01:21:34,260 --> 01:21:36,960
comfortable coming back on
campus, that they're able to do

1381
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,360
that? That's really important.
There's mental health and

1382
01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:42,300
everything that we're doing, but
it's also how do students feel

1383
01:21:42,300 --> 01:21:44,850
comfortable talking to faculty
to begin with, to know that

1384
01:21:44,850 --> 01:21:47,730
those faculty feel comfortable
even talking to those students,

1385
01:21:47,730 --> 01:21:51,300
because I see faculty when they
don't, they haven't had training

1386
01:21:51,300 --> 01:21:54,270
in mental health. They're not
psychiatrist. And they're often

1387
01:21:54,270 --> 01:21:56,700
the first people that come to
students, and they're supposed

1388
01:21:56,700 --> 01:22:00,000
to support them through their
mental health experiences as

1389
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,360
coaches as faculty members, as
administrators, and they need

1390
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,940
the support to be able to do
that, too. So how do we make it

1391
01:22:05,940 --> 01:22:08,640
easier for faculty to talk to
students, for students to feel

1392
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,610
comfortable talking to faculty,
for them to notice stuff, so

1393
01:22:11,610 --> 01:22:14,880
they get seen earlier, so then
they come to me, and they can

1394
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,770
talk to each other? Earlier,
too.

1395
01:22:17,010 --> 01:22:19,920
We've heard how students say
they want more transparency,

1396
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,280
school administrators, obviously
have to abide by health, privacy

1397
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,400
and confidentiality laws, there
might be concerns about

1398
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,850
reputational damage to the
colleges and universities. Some

1399
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:32,280
administrators have a concern
that the more they talk about

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01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:36,420
suicide, that that might, in
some ways encourage or might

1401
01:22:36,420 --> 01:22:40,170
lead to more deaths by suicide.
How should university and

1402
01:22:40,170 --> 01:22:42,960
college leaders, how often
should they talk about this? And

1403
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,100
how should they talk about it?

1404
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:47,100
So there's no evidence that the
more we talk about things, and

1405
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:49,860
the more we ask about things,
the worse it is. So as a

1406
01:22:49,860 --> 01:22:52,590
psychiatrist, we're encouraged
to always ask our patients about

1407
01:22:52,590 --> 01:22:54,900
suicide, it doesn't mean that
we're going to make patients

1408
01:22:54,930 --> 01:22:57,810
then think about it. We don't
implant those ideas. In fact, we

1409
01:22:57,810 --> 01:23:00,150
support people by asking about
those things.

1410
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,070
Adam Curry: Well, she pulled the
divorce rack right there with

1411
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:05,730
the no evidence that was fishy.
So it

1412
01:23:05,730 --> 01:23:07,920
John C Dvorak: goes like this.
So have you ever thought about

1413
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:14,070
suicide? No, but not as you
mentioned. It's bull crap. This

1414
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:16,080
is the power of suggestion. It's

1415
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,560
Adam Curry: a mental health
experience. It's just what she

1416
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:24,720
said, Well, this fold, okay,
this is very important. And we

1417
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,450
do have a mental health crisis
in the United States is because

1418
01:23:27,450 --> 01:23:32,460
of the advertisement and of
SSRIs of antidepressants. I know

1419
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,840
a lot of you are on them. I'm
not condemning you in any way.

1420
01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:42,510
But I got an interesting note
from one of our producers, and

1421
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:48,570
that's in regards to ozempic
will go V death bound and and

1422
01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:54,150
all the others and it relates to
this. We have heard many times

1423
01:23:54,450 --> 01:23:57,180
that people who are on
antidepressants I'm just gonna

1424
01:23:57,180 --> 01:24:02,250
say SSRIs but I think it's all
under the same basic family that

1425
01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:08,280
these make you gain weight. And
I always thought that it that

1426
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,430
these anti because you know the
antidepressants supposedly also

1427
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:15,570
make your you lose libido, which
is great because then we can

1428
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:22,110
prescribe Ed drugs, even for
women though, and for women, I

1429
01:24:22,110 --> 01:24:25,890
think it's especially they lose
their libido but the weight

1430
01:24:25,890 --> 01:24:28,440
gain, I never really realized
what it was and one of our

1431
01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:32,730
producers wrote in and said,
yeah, yes, we have a an obesity

1432
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:38,010
epidemic, but it's not just
sugar addiction. And listen to

1433
01:24:38,010 --> 01:24:43,380
this. Because this comes back to
our topic foods noise. I thought

1434
01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:47,310
food noise was just people who
are addicted to sugar. No, no,

1435
01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:50,400
this comes from the psychiatric
medication or producer writes.

1436
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,890
For the last five years I've
been taking psychiatric

1437
01:24:52,890 --> 01:24:57,030
medication. Unfortunately, he
didn't mention which one that

1438
01:24:57,030 --> 01:25:01,470
causes weight gain as a side
effect. main point is, for me

1439
01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:05,460
the hunger is not related to
sugar as Adam suggested, I don't

1440
01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:09,150
want a chocolate bar any more
than I wanted chicken or a bowl

1441
01:25:09,150 --> 01:25:12,660
of rice, the best way I can
describe the sensation is a sort

1442
01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:17,130
of anxiety relating to hunger.
This is the food noise. If I'm

1443
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:22,380
even even a little hungry, I get
very tense and panicky and feel

1444
01:25:22,380 --> 01:25:26,820
a need to kill that sensation as
quickly as possible. In term

1445
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:30,390
that causes some fear that I
don't even want to get a little

1446
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:34,530
bit hungry. So I want to eat
even more. So I'm not hungry in

1447
01:25:34,530 --> 01:25:41,010
between eating. okay with me on
this, this is this is really

1448
01:25:41,010 --> 01:25:44,580
messed up. As another
consequence, when I do eat, I

1449
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:48,870
tend to overeat of that st for
that same fear, I strongly want

1450
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:52,800
to kill the hunger sensation. So
I better eat two pieces of toast

1451
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,190
rather than one and maybe a
small bowl of cereal as well

1452
01:25:56,190 --> 01:25:59,760
just to be safe. And at
mealtime, the drive to kill the

1453
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,550
hunger sensation and avoid
having it pop up in the future

1454
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:07,050
causes me to eat larger portions
as well. As I said, it doesn't

1455
01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:09,930
need to be anything sugary
whatsoever. This particular

1456
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:12,810
medications worked beautifully
for my severe depression, and

1457
01:26:12,810 --> 01:26:14,790
has really changed my life for
the better. I don't want to stop

1458
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:18,180
taking but I also don't want to
add another medication to offset

1459
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,740
the food noise. So I had this
wrong. This food noise is caused

1460
01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:27,510
by the antidepressant, which to
me is a defective product. You

1461
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:31,020
can call that say you can call
that a side effect. I call it a

1462
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:35,520
defective product. But now
luckily, and now I'm

1463
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,690
understanding the marketing of
the food noise. Their marketing

1464
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,840
will go V and ozempic to people
who are already on

1465
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:47,400
antidepressants. That's what's
going on here. That's a big

1466
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,540
market. And the problem is and
the problem they're having is

1467
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:54,930
the insurance companies don't
want to jump on board yet. So

1468
01:26:54,990 --> 01:27:00,600
that's $1,000 a pop another
producer writes in and he he's

1469
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:05,490
in the field. It's he says it's
about the rebates. Currently

1470
01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:08,610
employers are mostly not
covering weight loss GLP one

1471
01:27:08,610 --> 01:27:12,090
drugs that's ozempic will go via
etc. But they are forced to

1472
01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:16,020
cover the same drug for diabetes
ozempic by creating the separate

1473
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:21,180
branding, remember we have
Monjack Manjaro, rebranding as a

1474
01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:25,980
zip bound, that we should have
rebranded at Kilimanjaro, but

1475
01:27:26,010 --> 01:27:30,450
that's whatever, they will start
to leverage rebates to force the

1476
01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:34,200
coverage. For the diabetes
version of the drugs ozempic

1477
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,070
Manjaro is at bound they will
offer a nominal nominal rebate

1478
01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:41,730
to the insurance company say
just $200. For example, because

1479
01:27:41,730 --> 01:27:44,940
the insurers are resistant to
cover the weight loss version of

1480
01:27:44,940 --> 01:27:48,900
the drugs, they will start to
leverage portfolio requirements

1481
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:52,290
to say if you cover we'll go
visit bound in addition to

1482
01:27:52,290 --> 01:27:55,650
ozempic Manjaro will increase
your rebate to $400 for both

1483
01:27:55,650 --> 01:27:59,340
products. So this is this is a
money game that they're playing.

1484
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:04,410
And now and now they've added
another dimension. And luckily

1485
01:28:04,410 --> 01:28:07,440
we have the study to show the
study comes from the very

1486
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:11,130
pharmaceutical company that
makes the drug that this does

1487
01:28:11,130 --> 01:28:16,170
more than just help you with
your weight gain thanks to SSRIs

1488
01:28:16,170 --> 01:28:17,490
and antidepressants. So let's

1489
01:28:17,490 --> 01:28:20,100
Unknown: get to this first one
cardiovascular disease. What is

1490
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,460
the studies showing? So two big
headed medical headlines we're

1491
01:28:23,460 --> 01:28:27,150
following Robin the first one
using the drugs semaglutide. In

1492
01:28:27,150 --> 01:28:30,810
a study funded by the drugmaker,
we've known for some time that

1493
01:28:30,810 --> 01:28:33,780
that drug is cardioprotective
reduces the risk of

1494
01:28:33,780 --> 01:28:37,350
cardiovascular events in people
with diabetes. Take a look at

1495
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:40,950
what this study did. They
studied people without diabetes,

1496
01:28:41,130 --> 01:28:44,340
who have were known to have a
diagnosis of cardiovascular

1497
01:28:44,340 --> 01:28:47,910
disease and who were already
also diagnosed with overweight

1498
01:28:47,940 --> 01:28:52,320
or obesity, and found an
associated 20% reduced risk of

1499
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,410
fatal heart attack, non fatal
heart attack and non fatal

1500
01:28:55,410 --> 01:28:57,360
stroke. So those are significant
findings

1501
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,480
about weight loss. Are there
other theories involved?

1502
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:02,640
And there are other theories?
And that's what's really

1503
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:03,510
interesting about this.

1504
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,840
Adam Curry: Not just because
you're fat and you're dying from

1505
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,380
obesity No, there's it's
interesting little things little

1506
01:29:10,650 --> 01:29:12,930
bit we've learned from the study
from the people who make the

1507
01:29:12,930 --> 01:29:13,200
drug

1508
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,690
Unknown: bread study, the more
we're finding possible other

1509
01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:19,680
theories and data has shown in
lab animals that semaglutide can

1510
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,640
reduce inflammation, some mini
med school here it can promote

1511
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,850
what's called plaque stability
in those arteries making the

1512
01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:30,720
plaque less likely to break off
and close off that artery and

1513
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,200
then it almost works like a
blood thinner in some in lab

1514
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:38,130
animals in terms of reducing
platelet clumping so that when

1515
01:29:38,130 --> 01:29:41,280
you combine that with weight
loss, significant cardio

1516
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,650
protective effects can really
have an impact.

1517
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,890
Adam Curry: Wow, that's great
and everybody had this story.

1518
01:29:46,890 --> 01:29:48,000
Everybody's on the

1519
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,330
John C Dvorak: story everybody
beggar here's

1520
01:29:51,330 --> 01:29:52,500
Adam Curry: the NBC they

1521
01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:55,080
Unknown: are the blockbuster
drugs helping millions lose

1522
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,440
weight. Now a new study finds
evidence that drugs like govi

1523
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,350
and ozempic may not just help
people lose weight but could

1524
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:05,610
also help their heart health.
This house has the details. As

1525
01:30:05,610 --> 01:30:09,240
the weight loss drug revolution
explodes nationwide. New

1526
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,540
research shows the medications
may not only help patients shed

1527
01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:16,140
pounds but also improve heart
health. parto recent clinical

1528
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:19,770
trial shows semaglutide The
active ingredient in popular

1529
01:30:19,770 --> 01:30:23,250
weight loss drugs will go V and
ozempic could reduce the risk of

1530
01:30:23,250 --> 01:30:27,810
heart attacks or strokes by 20%.
So highly significant. Dr.

1531
01:30:27,810 --> 01:30:29,070
Michael Lind cough is the lead

1532
01:30:29,550 --> 01:30:32,910
Adam Curry: these these drops
that NBC did is great, so highly

1533
01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:33,600
significant

1534
01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:37,800
Unknown: strokes by 20%. So
highly significant. Dr. Michael

1535
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,400
link off is the lead author of
the trial which followed 17,000

1536
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,360
obese adults 45 and older who
had pre existing cardiovascular

1537
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:49,740
disease but were not diabetic of
the participants. 8% who

1538
01:30:49,740 --> 01:30:52,890
received a placebo had a heart
attack or stroke compared to

1539
01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:55,440
6.5%. Who took will go V

1540
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,670
Adam Curry: shown in in any so
that's their 20%

1541
01:31:00,450 --> 01:31:03,000
John C Dvorak: the different
Yeah, 20% is from eight to six,

1542
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:03,690
and all

1543
01:31:03,690 --> 01:31:05,160
Adam Curry: the rest died from
the COVID shot.

1544
01:31:05,190 --> 01:31:07,020
John C Dvorak: Oh, cool. Go V
Yeah. Wait, wait, there's

1545
01:31:07,020 --> 01:31:09,630
Adam Curry: more. There's more,
but I gotta stop it. Okay.

1546
01:31:11,310 --> 01:31:14,760
John C Dvorak: How does a survey
like this even come into being?

1547
01:31:15,300 --> 01:31:18,720
This is a diabetic drug and then
it became a weight loss drug,

1548
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,990
but they've given it to just
randos who have a heart attack.

1549
01:31:22,290 --> 01:31:26,340
I have an idea Bill, what can we
do? That's given these random

1550
01:31:26,340 --> 01:31:29,610
this random crowd of people that
have heart condition Rando

1551
01:31:29,610 --> 01:31:30,180
fatties?

1552
01:31:30,210 --> 01:31:31,440
Adam Curry: No, it was Rando
fatty.

1553
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,810
John C Dvorak: Give him this and
see what happens. I mean, what

1554
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:38,670
who's who's behind this idea?
Why, what was the thesis behind

1555
01:31:38,670 --> 01:31:41,730
it? Because there's no evidence
that that this drug had anything

1556
01:31:41,730 --> 01:31:45,690
to do at heart. This is mercury
rigged.

1557
01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:48,840
Adam Curry: This is marketing.
It was Norval notice Novo

1558
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,950
Nordisk themselves who did the
study? It's this is this is

1559
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:53,700
marketing,

1560
01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:56,250
John C Dvorak: taking the same
drug and trying it against

1561
01:31:56,250 --> 01:31:59,790
people that have a Zima or
whatever it's called, are the

1562
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,670
people with flatulence I mean,
are they what are they testing

1563
01:32:02,670 --> 01:32:03,450
this stuff on?

1564
01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:06,300
Adam Curry: Or or COVID
vaccination? I mean, by the way,

1565
01:32:06,300 --> 01:32:09,120
this sounds like the binary you
know, solution like I you know,

1566
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,340
you got blood clots, but maybe
if you take this thing, you

1567
01:32:11,340 --> 01:32:13,710
know, you'll live a little
longer, you know, the clot shot

1568
01:32:13,710 --> 01:32:17,760
won't get you. This is also
cynical, it's drug upon drug

1569
01:32:17,790 --> 01:32:22,200
upon drug upon drug, and if it
isn't the food noise. Yep. Then,

1570
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,770
then it's, it's to stop you from
dying. Well, let's continue up

1571
01:32:25,770 --> 01:32:26,070
until

1572
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:29,280
Unknown: now, no one has shown
in in any group of patients with

1573
01:32:29,310 --> 01:32:31,950
overweight and obesity that the
risk of cardiovascular events

1574
01:32:31,950 --> 01:32:32,790
could be reduced.

1575
01:32:32,940 --> 01:32:36,270
The findings of the study funded
by Novo Nordisk the maker of

1576
01:32:36,270 --> 01:32:39,270
will go V come as the FDA
approves a new version of

1577
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:43,080
diabetes drug Manjaro for weight
loss called zet bound. New

1578
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,870
research shows the active
ingredient in that drug ters

1579
01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:49,200
appetite may help type two
diabetes patients reduce

1580
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,230
inflammation which may lower the
risk of heart disease.

1581
01:32:52,350 --> 01:32:55,920
mundra changed my life. 30 year
old listen to that,

1582
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,890
Adam Curry: listen to that. They
just dropped this as a

1583
01:32:58,890 --> 01:33:02,820
psychological operation and that
just dropping non sequitur

1584
01:33:02,910 --> 01:33:05,730
Manjaro saved my life. Beatty's
patients

1585
01:33:05,730 --> 01:33:08,220
Unknown: reduce inflammation,
which may lower the risk of

1586
01:33:08,220 --> 01:33:13,080
heart disease, mundra changed my
life. Wow. 30 year old Alexis

1587
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,140
Mitchell has been taking Manjaro
for just over a year now and

1588
01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:18,630
says she's lost 125 pounds,

1589
01:33:18,660 --> 01:33:22,590
I don't want to wait until I
have a heart attack. I don't

1590
01:33:22,590 --> 01:33:24,300
want to wait until I have a
stroke.

1591
01:33:24,420 --> 01:33:27,630
But despite the promise of these
drugs, all the side effects are

1592
01:33:27,630 --> 01:33:29,130
not fully known. This is

1593
01:33:29,130 --> 01:33:32,850
not meant for the person who
sort of wants to casually lose

1594
01:33:32,850 --> 01:33:36,660
510 pounds, you know, before a
big event. We don't necessarily

1595
01:33:36,660 --> 01:33:39,030
think it's worth taking some of
the risks, some of which are

1596
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:40,500
known, some of which are
unknown.

1597
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:44,760
And these drugs aren't cheap as
much as $1,300 a month most

1598
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,580
healthcare plans don't cover
them. But experts say these

1599
01:33:47,580 --> 01:33:50,160
findings could push insurance
companies to do so.

1600
01:33:50,190 --> 01:33:53,340
Adam Curry: Okay. So this is
really the point of, of this

1601
01:33:53,340 --> 01:33:58,740
marketing campaign. And the
agency said Listen, guys, I

1602
01:33:58,740 --> 01:34:01,260
think our best shot of really
getting a change here and the

1603
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:04,500
insurance companies is probably
to go to CBS. You know, because

1604
01:34:04,500 --> 01:34:09,150
CBS has Gail Gail knows Oprah
OPRAH You know Wait watch Oprah

1605
01:34:09,420 --> 01:34:12,690
so we should probably have them
do the story and that will

1606
01:34:12,690 --> 01:34:17,250
probably got some some earned
earned marketing earned

1607
01:34:17,250 --> 01:34:21,060
advertising space that will show
you know that will really move

1608
01:34:21,060 --> 01:34:23,910
the needle on the insurance
company's covering this once you

1609
01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:28,710
get the rebates set up. So let's
get Dr. Le pook from CBS to dot

1610
01:34:28,710 --> 01:34:32,040
okay. Okay, good. We got the by
I'll call this I'll call the

1611
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:32,610
station.

1612
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,500
Unknown: New research on the
popular weight loss drug we go V

1613
01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:39,930
could change the way doctors
treat patients with heart

1614
01:34:39,930 --> 01:34:43,290
related problems. The study from
Novo Nordisk the drug maker

1615
01:34:43,290 --> 01:34:46,290
behind what go V found it can
reduce the risk of heart attack

1616
01:34:46,290 --> 01:34:50,730
stroke or heart related death by
20%. CBS News CHIEF MEDICAL

1617
01:34:50,730 --> 01:34:53,520
CORRESPONDENT Dr. John Liu joins
us now you'll duck What's your

1618
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:54,930
job? What's your job?

1619
01:34:56,370 --> 01:35:01,410
It's more than 17,000 people 41
countries I want emphasize that

1620
01:35:01,410 --> 01:35:05,640
these are people who were
overweight or obese, a BMI of 27

1621
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,420
or above, and they had some
underlying heart related issue

1622
01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:13,320
almost 70% that had a heart
attack. Now 20% decrease in

1623
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,710
heart related issues like heart
attack, stroke or death from

1624
01:35:16,710 --> 01:35:18,990
some heart related issue. It's
interesting

1625
01:35:18,990 --> 01:35:22,500
Adam Curry: how they can measure
20% didn't have a heart attack,

1626
01:35:22,890 --> 01:35:27,780
all the rest had a heart attack.
Seriously, maybe I'm hearing

1627
01:35:27,780 --> 01:35:29,670
that wrong. But it sounds like
you know, we had all these

1628
01:35:29,670 --> 01:35:31,920
people had heart issues. And
these people didn't have a heart

1629
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:32,280
attack

1630
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,400
Unknown: had some underlying
heart related issue almost 70%

1631
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:39,780
that had a heart attack. Now 20%
decrease in heart related issues

1632
01:35:39,780 --> 01:35:42,540
like heart attack, stroke, or
death from some heart related

1633
01:35:42,540 --> 01:35:45,480
issue. That's really important.
So this is an important study, I

1634
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:48,240
want to parse to point out that
I didn't like the amount and I

1635
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,160
think other people talked about
that there wasn't enough

1636
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,590
representation, who was mostly
white males.

1637
01:35:52,740 --> 01:35:55,560
Adam Curry: Oh, it wasn't
diverse. It wasn't diverse.

1638
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,410
Okay, that's a disclaimer. Now
let's get into it. Come on, Doc.

1639
01:35:58,410 --> 01:35:58,950
Okay, so

1640
01:35:58,950 --> 01:36:00,120
Unknown: there's a lot of people
that hear

1641
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,150
about these weight loss drugs,
and they want to lose five,

1642
01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:07,470
seven, maybe 10 pounds? Do you
recommend that they go in this

1643
01:36:07,470 --> 01:36:09,270
direction? No.

1644
01:36:09,420 --> 01:36:12,300
And I'm really glad that you
mentioned that, okay, I have a

1645
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:15,120
lot of pain because the agency
wanted me to bring this up, do

1646
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,490
internal medicine and gi I have
a lot of patients who come to me

1647
01:36:17,490 --> 01:36:19,440
and say I want to lose that, you
know, six or seven, eight

1648
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:23,220
pounds. That's not the group of
people who've been studied. We

1649
01:36:23,220 --> 01:36:26,430
don't know the long term side
effects in those people or even

1650
01:36:26,460 --> 01:36:29,610
the effects of in those people.
So I think we have to, you know,

1651
01:36:29,610 --> 01:36:32,400
if to say there is a shortage of
this drug, and these kinds of

1652
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:36,660
drugs, because I think a lot of
you who are not, you know, in

1653
01:36:36,660 --> 01:36:39,390
the group that that have been
recommended for that. I think

1654
01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:40,680
it's important to just fall.

1655
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:44,760
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Okay,
well, good. Please, there's a

1656
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,090
shortage. So getting getting
early. Now. I mean, it works for

1657
01:36:48,090 --> 01:36:50,700
you if you want to lose six or
seven pounds, but don't don't do

1658
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:52,230
that. Don't Don't, don't do
that.

1659
01:36:52,230 --> 01:36:53,760
Unknown: So these weight loss
drugs are getting really

1660
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,550
popular, and they're so
effective. But are they too good

1661
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:58,830
to be true? And then what
happens when someone stops

1662
01:36:58,830 --> 01:37:01,920
taking the medicine, they might
gain the weight back? And then

1663
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,480
what happens to now their heart
health if

1664
01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:04,950
they were part of that? Yeah.

1665
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:07,440
So I love these questions,
right? Because it's big picture

1666
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:08,220
stuff. And

1667
01:37:08,220 --> 01:37:10,380
Adam Curry: because the agency,
again, asked me to talk about

1668
01:37:10,380 --> 01:37:11,850
it, we have

1669
01:37:11,850 --> 01:37:13,830
Unknown: to look at the big
picture if there really hasn't

1670
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:16,320
been a good intervention for
people to lose weight. And we

1671
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,330
know that that it's important
for people to lose weight for

1672
01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:23,010
all sorts of reasons. So this is
a tool in our toolbox. But it's

1673
01:37:23,010 --> 01:37:27,120
not the only tool. I do have a
diet. And we do have exercise.

1674
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,690
And I don't know, important, but
you know, it is something that

1675
01:37:30,690 --> 01:37:32,730
for the first time we have
something that's effective, but

1676
01:37:32,730 --> 01:37:34,410
again, you have to use it
judiciously.

1677
01:37:34,980 --> 01:37:37,890
Adam Curry: So what did he
didn't answer the question? He

1678
01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:40,830
said, you could you could use
diet or exercise, but it's a

1679
01:37:40,830 --> 01:37:43,920
tool. I mean, why use a
screwdriver if you've got this

1680
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,890
hammer, here's the hammer,
here's the hammer and then

1681
01:37:46,890 --> 01:37:47,400
finally the

1682
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,580
Unknown: money shot. So this is
not only a study of will go V

1683
01:37:50,580 --> 01:37:53,850
but by will go V in the sense of
the drug maker conducted the

1684
01:37:53,850 --> 01:37:56,160
research it should that make us
extra skeptical? And do you

1685
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,560
think insurance? You're gonna
look at this and think, okay,

1686
01:37:58,590 --> 01:38:02,190
Adam Curry: ah, no, this is the
insurance company question. Here

1687
01:38:02,190 --> 01:38:02,940
we go. This is

1688
01:38:02,940 --> 01:38:06,210
Unknown: not only a study of
will go V, but by will go V in

1689
01:38:06,210 --> 01:38:08,910
the sense of the drug maker
conducted the research, should

1690
01:38:08,910 --> 01:38:11,010
that make us extra skeptical,
and you think insurance

1691
01:38:11,010 --> 01:38:13,020
companies are going to look at
this and think, Okay, we'll

1692
01:38:13,020 --> 01:38:14,280
cover it now. That's a good
question.

1693
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:17,490
I think, Oh, I always looked at
who funded this study, or who

1694
01:38:17,490 --> 01:38:19,710
ran the study. And I think
you're right, it was the drug

1695
01:38:19,710 --> 01:38:22,260
company who funded it. And I
think that is something that you

1696
01:38:22,260 --> 01:38:25,320
want to always look at. And so
you want to look down and say,

1697
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,510
Okay, let me look, I've got the
study here. I've read it about

1698
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:31,560
10 times. Anything that doesn't
quite make no, yes.

1699
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,900
Adam Curry: No, I did my own
research. But

1700
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,630
Unknown: what was the insurance
get involved in covers this,

1701
01:38:36,630 --> 01:38:39,960
right? So right, right now I
have diamond battles all the

1702
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,740
time, with insurance companies
not paying for this medication.

1703
01:38:43,740 --> 01:38:46,200
And this group of medications
and people who absolutely should

1704
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,860
be on it. Peter had a BMI over
30. They have diabetes, they

1705
01:38:49,860 --> 01:38:52,530
have heart disease, and they
won't pay it. So I think this is

1706
01:38:52,530 --> 01:38:55,440
a big battle going on. What's
interesting here is now they

1707
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:58,950
can't say well, it's just
cosmetic guys showing that it

1708
01:38:58,980 --> 01:39:02,190
actually decreases the risk of
heart attack. There it is, or

1709
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:05,700
there's optimism, the people who
write

1710
01:39:05,700 --> 01:39:08,070
insurance companies, your move
Dr. gentlefolk. Thank you very

1711
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:08,880
much. Appreciate it.

1712
01:39:08,940 --> 01:39:11,250
Adam Curry: Literally the script
said now tell them it's their

1713
01:39:11,250 --> 01:39:14,130
move. Is there a move? It's not

1714
01:39:14,130 --> 01:39:17,280
John C Dvorak: just cosmetic?
That's pretty that's that is a

1715
01:39:17,850 --> 01:39:22,620
three pronged attack? Yes. Yes.
Aimed at the insurance companies

1716
01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:25,620
on behalf of a drug company just
got lots of money. And this is

1717
01:39:25,620 --> 01:39:29,820
the reason why drug money should
not be mixing with media. And

1718
01:39:29,820 --> 01:39:33,600
with these, with these purchases
of time, which is what that that

1719
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,860
was a native ad as the others
were Yes. And this should be

1720
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:41,820
illegal is this we're the only
country that allows this besides

1721
01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:44,520
the idiots in New Zealand and

1722
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,470
Adam Curry: a no agenda
producers. If you're on

1723
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:48,990
antidepressants, and you're
gaining weight. I love you. I

1724
01:39:48,990 --> 01:39:52,980
love you. I don't care how fat
you are. I love you. Seriously,

1725
01:39:53,010 --> 01:39:56,160
don't don't it just doesn't
sound like a good idea to add

1726
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:57,600
this to the mix. It doesn't.

1727
01:39:58,290 --> 01:40:00,480
John C Dvorak: It doesn't change
topics here. I Want to try the

1728
01:40:00,780 --> 01:40:02,370
new intelligence agency?

1729
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:07,380
Adam Curry: I'd love you. I love
you just the size you are. Okay,

1730
01:40:08,250 --> 01:40:10,470
that's important for me to say
because I love I love our

1731
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:12,450
producers. I don't care how big
they are.

1732
01:40:14,099 --> 01:40:22,049
John C Dvorak: Were you gone
big? So we have a new I didn't

1733
01:40:22,049 --> 01:40:25,649
know this, but we have an
intelligence agency that is not

1734
01:40:25,649 --> 01:40:28,139
really listed in the big
winners, 16 of them that was

1735
01:40:28,139 --> 01:40:31,679
supposed to have 17 Not sure I
thought it was 23. Well,

1736
01:40:31,679 --> 01:40:36,179
whatever it is, this is another
one. And it's kind of slipped by

1737
01:40:36,179 --> 01:40:38,399
everybody. And I want to see if
you can pick it up in this

1738
01:40:38,399 --> 01:40:46,529
conversation with Mark Warner on
Face The Nation last Sunday. And

1739
01:40:46,529 --> 01:40:48,929
he's talking about all the crap
that's going on he now he's the

1740
01:40:48,929 --> 01:40:53,399
head of the Senate Intelligence
Committee. So he's knows about

1741
01:40:53,849 --> 01:40:55,259
everything that's got anything
Oh, he

1742
01:40:55,260 --> 01:40:57,300
Adam Curry: knows that. He knows
everything. Yes, he knows

1743
01:40:57,300 --> 01:40:58,440
everything. You know, you know.
So I

1744
01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:00,540
John C Dvorak: want to get to
just the beginning of this here.

1745
01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:05,040
This is kind of the first clip
that just kind of introduced

1746
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,620
what they're chatting about is
this kind of meaningless. But

1747
01:41:07,620 --> 01:41:08,160
here we go.

1748
01:41:08,190 --> 01:41:10,050
Unknown: I also think the
President needs to push

1749
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:14,010
President Xi on the continuing
intellectual property theft,

1750
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:17,040
that some years accounts for
close to five Erich Gamma

1751
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:21,000
dollars of intellectual property
being stolen. And I firmly

1752
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,750
believe, when we've seen no
retreat from China in terms of

1753
01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:28,350
its level of technology
investment, I absolutely believe

1754
01:41:28,350 --> 01:41:31,560
that national security in the
21st century is more than tanks

1755
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,320
and guns. It is who wins the
battle for artificial

1756
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,170
intelligence and quantum
computing and advanced energy,

1757
01:41:37,170 --> 01:41:40,350
that level of Chinese investment
for example, on rare earth

1758
01:41:40,350 --> 01:41:43,410
minerals coming out of Africa is
huge. And we need to be able to

1759
01:41:43,410 --> 01:41:46,740
counter that with America and
with our friends.

1760
01:41:48,510 --> 01:41:50,430
John C Dvorak: Okay, so he
doesn't know what he's doing.

1761
01:41:51,450 --> 01:41:55,680
Okay, so here we go a clip to an
end an intelligence agency has

1762
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:59,370
casually dropped in here, the
new one and he never says

1763
01:41:59,370 --> 01:42:02,250
anything one way or the other
about I have a third clip just

1764
01:42:02,250 --> 01:42:04,890
to back that up to show that
after this, but they would

1765
01:42:04,890 --> 01:42:09,000
listen to see if you can figure
out which and what who this is.

1766
01:42:09,180 --> 01:42:13,260
Unknown: So you want guardrails
I imagined set up with China on

1767
01:42:13,290 --> 01:42:15,060
artificial intelligence and the
like but

1768
01:42:15,090 --> 01:42:17,250
Adam Curry: guard rails you
know, there's three things we

1769
01:42:17,250 --> 01:42:22,950
got to look at one is insane.
Two is guardrails. And the third

1770
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:27,570
is optic optic is everywhere now
as well. Optic

1771
01:42:28,110 --> 01:42:31,890
Unknown: legislating around a
lot of this is really hard. It's

1772
01:42:31,890 --> 01:42:33,270
not moving very quickly.

1773
01:42:33,480 --> 01:42:38,490
The market. I did the bill that
was terribly bipartisan, 13 and

1774
01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:42,000
13, Democrats, Republicans about
saying we need an approach

1775
01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:45,240
that's not simply focused on
tick tock been on all foreign

1776
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,570
technology that might pose a
national security risk, right,

1777
01:42:48,570 --> 01:42:51,630
from right, China or Russia or
Iran. Right. And suddenly, we

1778
01:42:51,630 --> 01:42:54,150
had the extremes on both the
left and the right come out

1779
01:42:54,150 --> 01:42:57,600
against that legislation. It
needs to move. Because

1780
01:42:57,930 --> 01:43:01,170
particularly now, as you see,
literally 40% of young people

1781
01:43:01,410 --> 01:43:05,280
get all their news from tick
tock. So I hope those kinds of

1782
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,160
issues will be we can get some
energy behind them now coming

1783
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,190
after this summit. But this
technology competition, we've

1784
01:43:11,190 --> 01:43:14,280
had military competitors like
Russia, we've never had an

1785
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,550
economy, it's making the
investments the way China is in

1786
01:43:17,550 --> 01:43:18,960
these new technology domains.

1787
01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:22,680
So Microsoft this week came out
with a report that said Russia,

1788
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:28,110
Iran and China will interfere in
the 2024 presidential race, not

1789
01:43:29,670 --> 01:43:33,630
not they were certainly about
this and other close

1790
01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:36,510
presidential races worldwide.
Oh,

1791
01:43:36,510 --> 01:43:39,180
Adam Curry: you mean the the
guys who read everybody's

1792
01:43:39,180 --> 01:43:44,400
outlook and have access to what
word documents you open and any

1793
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,320
application you open mean, those
guys?

1794
01:43:48,510 --> 01:43:52,110
John C Dvorak: Since when didn't
Microsoft, oh, plan only become

1795
01:43:52,110 --> 01:43:56,430
an intelligence agency often,
but do these reports about who's

1796
01:43:56,430 --> 01:43:58,050
going to interfere with the
election?

1797
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,540
Adam Curry: They've been doing
that for a while. I mean, they

1798
01:44:00,570 --> 01:44:04,050
they know all of these all of
these zero day exploits? It's

1799
01:44:04,050 --> 01:44:09,300
all windows. Windows is the
spyware of for everybody.

1800
01:44:12,030 --> 01:44:15,120
John C Dvorak: I will I would
think that Mark Warner would say

1801
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,640
hey, wait a minute. They're not
an intelligence agency that can

1802
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,820
make these determinations. Yeah,
they are. They're Microsoft, he

1803
01:44:20,820 --> 01:44:24,030
should say, Well, you you're
saying that but that. So you're

1804
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:27,330
saying it's official paper? They
have government agency.

1805
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,630
Adam Curry: If Bill Gates can be
the doctor of vaccines, why

1806
01:44:30,630 --> 01:44:33,330
couldn't Microsoft be in charge
of intelligence?

1807
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,750
John C Dvorak: Well, I guess
they are because here's what he

1808
01:44:36,750 --> 01:44:39,990
says after this. Right
immediately after she makes his

1809
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:43,320
accusation and Microsoft is
telling us about the upcoming

1810
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,400
elections. He's just been
sloughs it off. Yeah, that

1811
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,110
Microsoft is obviously one of
our boys.

1812
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:51,810
Unknown: Is your legislation and
a stop something like that?

1813
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,890
I think our legislation will
take on an issue like a tick

1814
01:44:55,890 --> 01:44:59,760
tock, which is I am afraid could
be used as a propaganda channel.

1815
01:45:01,709 --> 01:45:03,899
John C Dvorak: tick tock. He
wasn't even talking about tick

1816
01:45:03,899 --> 01:45:04,289
tock

1817
01:45:04,290 --> 01:45:08,010
Adam Curry: now just just shut
up about Microsoft ma'am. He's

1818
01:45:08,010 --> 01:45:08,400
got

1819
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,220
John C Dvorak: the and by the
way, he made the assertion that

1820
01:45:11,220 --> 01:45:17,430
40% of America's youths use
huge, huge, huge have get their

1821
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:22,620
news from tick tock. I, I go on
tic tac as much as anybody for

1822
01:45:22,650 --> 01:45:27,420
certain to get my clips. I've
never seen a news report on tick

1823
01:45:27,420 --> 01:45:28,530
tock have you?

1824
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,090
Adam Curry: Well, now now you're
just being a fuddy duddy because

1825
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,450
No, of course, there's no news
reports. What they get is that

1826
01:45:36,450 --> 01:45:40,620
the all those chicks talking
about talking about the letter

1827
01:45:40,620 --> 01:45:46,440
from Osama, that's news to them.
That's news. News is a fight

1828
01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:51,900
between Ben Shapiro and Candace
Owens. That's news. There's no

1829
01:45:51,900 --> 01:45:56,190
news reports. That's old school.
They also, if I told you about

1830
01:45:56,190 --> 01:46:00,540
the restaurant in Amsterdam,
they don't go to Yelp anymore to

1831
01:46:00,540 --> 01:46:04,680
get restaurant reviews. Now they
go on Tik Tok, and they say

1832
01:46:04,710 --> 01:46:08,730
Where can I get great, great
stroke voxels in Amsterdam, and

1833
01:46:08,730 --> 01:46:11,220
then they'll just look at videos
and then they'll go make a video

1834
01:46:11,220 --> 01:46:13,860
because they were there were all
the videos were made. It's a

1835
01:46:13,860 --> 01:46:19,500
plague. And and and the reason
Warner was the guy who wrote the

1836
01:46:19,500 --> 01:46:24,870
legislation, because Google at
all are flipping out, they know

1837
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:28,200
they're losing market share.
That's the only reason I

1838
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,140
remained my stance remains firm.
That No,

1839
01:46:31,140 --> 01:46:33,450
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to
identify the stance I can argue

1840
01:46:33,450 --> 01:46:36,570
against. I can argue against a
few things you do. But it's not

1841
01:46:36,570 --> 01:46:41,130
that. It's obviously Google and
Google properties. big supporter

1842
01:46:41,130 --> 01:46:42,270
of Mark Warner big

1843
01:46:42,270 --> 01:46:45,300
Adam Curry: time all those guys
are they hate it. Well, they all

1844
01:46:45,300 --> 01:46:45,630
of them. And

1845
01:46:45,630 --> 01:46:48,060
John C Dvorak: that's why the
whole mention of Microsoft in

1846
01:46:48,060 --> 01:46:52,350
this report, as an intelligence
agency telling us about the

1847
01:46:52,590 --> 01:46:57,390
upcoming elections. It just went
right off his back like like

1848
01:46:57,390 --> 01:47:01,620
water off a duck. Because it was
like, Yeah, this was Yeah, yeah,

1849
01:47:01,620 --> 01:47:05,340
Microsoft knows this is a setup.
This is bad. By the way.

1850
01:47:05,340 --> 01:47:07,500
Microsoft should not no, no.

1851
01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:11,820
Adam Curry: Have you ever
installed Windows and read what

1852
01:47:11,820 --> 01:47:15,360
it says? Hey, we're gonna track
this. We're going to track that

1853
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,040
we're gonna check this don't
worry about it's all going to

1854
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,400
just nonnamous Don't worry about
it's all good. But Apple, you

1855
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,850
start up an app on Apple poop up
that little ping the apple HQ.

1856
01:47:24,330 --> 01:47:30,510
All of that is compromised. And
this is all a setup to some AI

1857
01:47:30,540 --> 01:47:35,670
bullcrap stories and AI Oh, oh
AI is so dangerous. And

1858
01:47:35,730 --> 01:47:40,890
obviously the algos which is AI
used by tick tock need to be we

1859
01:47:40,890 --> 01:47:43,470
need to get in there right away
because it's not doing the right

1860
01:47:43,470 --> 01:47:45,810
thing. We don't have control
over it. Or maybe someone has

1861
01:47:45,810 --> 01:47:49,770
control over it that we don't
like. And so we need to regulate

1862
01:47:49,980 --> 01:47:54,690
everything. And Nikki Haley is
right on point. I'm sure you've

1863
01:47:54,690 --> 01:47:58,860
seen the clip, she's and this is
going to happen. Because the big

1864
01:47:58,890 --> 01:48:02,250
AI guy in America here is Elon
Musk, and he's already on this

1865
01:48:02,250 --> 01:48:06,270
path. This is literally his
talking points. Nikki Haley is

1866
01:48:06,300 --> 01:48:07,410
in the bag.

1867
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:10,020
Unknown: When I get into office.
The first thing we have to do

1868
01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:13,410
social media accounts, social
media companies, they have to

1869
01:48:13,410 --> 01:48:16,620
show America their algorithms.
Let us see why they're pushing

1870
01:48:16,620 --> 01:48:19,980
what they're pushing. The second
thing is every person on social

1871
01:48:19,980 --> 01:48:24,360
media should be verified by
their name. That's first of all,

1872
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,300
it's a national security threat.
When you do that, all of a

1873
01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:30,390
sudden, people have to stand by
what they say. And it gets rid

1874
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:33,870
of the Russian bots, the Iranian
bots and the Chinese bots. And

1875
01:48:33,870 --> 01:48:36,690
then you're gonna get some
civility when people know their

1876
01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:39,720
name is next to what they say
countable and they know their

1877
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,270
pastor and their family members
going to see it. It's going to

1878
01:48:42,270 --> 01:48:44,160
help our kids and it's going to
help our country.

1879
01:48:44,250 --> 01:48:45,840
Adam Curry: Oh no, not my
waster.

1880
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:48,870
John C Dvorak: What do you mean
the names are going to have to

1881
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:55,740
be verified so nama Raja Raha
WA, which is Nikki Haley's real

1882
01:48:55,740 --> 01:48:59,100
named is going to have to switch
her name to something realistic

1883
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:01,620
instead? The phony baloney Nikki
Haley?

1884
01:49:01,830 --> 01:49:03,420
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, of course.
It'd

1885
01:49:03,420 --> 01:49:08,580
John C Dvorak: be not. Or
Nimrod, Nimrod Murata, Rand

1886
01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:09,330
Hawa.

1887
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:10,620
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. And,

1888
01:49:11,130 --> 01:49:14,010
John C Dvorak: but everyone else
gonna maybe it's okay for her to

1889
01:49:14,010 --> 01:49:16,140
go with Nikki Haley. Okay. I'm,

1890
01:49:16,140 --> 01:49:18,840
Adam Curry: first of all, I'm a
proponent of this. I agree

1891
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:23,340
wholeheartedly. Let's destroy it
all. Everybody has to register

1892
01:49:23,340 --> 01:49:26,640
and be verified for all
platforms. I'm all in. That's

1893
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,850
great. And I'll just sit there
with my little blog, and my

1894
01:49:29,850 --> 01:49:33,540
little RSS feed, and I can be
anonymous. And I can call myself

1895
01:49:33,540 --> 01:49:37,230
Nikki Haley if I want to. I'm
all in all platforms should be

1896
01:49:37,230 --> 01:49:39,450
registered and you should be
part of the system and the

1897
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:43,830
Gulag. Totally. She's on the
right path. Go Nikki. What's

1898
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:50,310
your name? Nimrod. Nimrod,
Nimrod? Yes, Elon is going to do

1899
01:49:50,310 --> 01:49:53,310
this because it'll be connected
to your bank account. This is

1900
01:49:53,310 --> 01:49:57,660
what they this is what they
want. And I'm I'm all for it. Go

1901
01:49:57,660 --> 01:50:01,860
please. This is how we destroy
the internet. The open free

1902
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:07,890
internet if registered for you
to go to register for Google, if

1903
01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:11,580
you want to use that stuff, then
you deserve to be tracked and

1904
01:50:11,580 --> 01:50:15,090
punished when you go when you go
astray. Meanwhile, I'll sit here

1905
01:50:15,090 --> 01:50:18,540
with my little Linux at my
little, my little start nine

1906
01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:24,030
server, and I'll just be happy
as a clam. My podcasts on that's

1907
01:50:24,030 --> 01:50:26,010
where IPFS and yo yo like it.

1908
01:50:27,540 --> 01:50:31,470
John C Dvorak: Hi, I'm Adam
curry. I have a podcast.

1909
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:35,460
Adam Curry: Yes, it's the only
thing left that that still is

1910
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,270
has not been compromised. They
even got Spotify to try it and

1911
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:43,710
they couldn't do it. Couldn't do
it. Couldn't do it. So always

1912
01:50:43,710 --> 01:50:48,360
John C Dvorak: doable it's not
the network's licensing the FCC

1913
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,980
is going to take care of it Good
luck. Good luck good luck in

1914
01:50:52,980 --> 01:50:54,090
predicting this for years

1915
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,450
Adam Curry: it's not its own the
only people that golden age

1916
01:50:57,450 --> 01:51:00,690
John C Dvorak: right now people
who can a golden age the only

1917
01:51:00,690 --> 01:51:03,180
port no agenda is the Golden Age
The

1918
01:51:03,180 --> 01:51:06,000
Adam Curry: only people who can
issue podcast licenses is your

1919
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:10,650
no agenda show no one else has
the right but us well

1920
01:51:10,650 --> 01:51:13,080
John C Dvorak: I think the no
agenda Show podcast license

1921
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,750
would be which is one way of
going and we should also have an

1922
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:16,650
award show

1923
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,120
Adam Curry: the award shows are
great because everyone has to

1924
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,280
pay to enter that's my favorite
part of the

1925
01:51:27,330 --> 01:51:30,180
John C Dvorak: award shows
you're gonna say the first two

1926
01:51:30,180 --> 01:51:31,350
years is going to be free

1927
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,740
Adam Curry: though with all of
them are now for pay. I'm gonna

1928
01:51:34,740 --> 01:51:35,670
say oh it's really

1929
01:51:35,670 --> 01:51:37,920
John C Dvorak: that's how you do
it house you spec to do these

1930
01:51:37,950 --> 01:51:38,280
things.

1931
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:44,460
Adam Curry: I mean, do people
pay to enter the Oscars? Is

1932
01:51:44,460 --> 01:51:45,570
there an entrance fee?

1933
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:48,450
John C Dvorak: No that that but
that's picked up by the by the

1934
01:51:48,570 --> 01:51:49,980
you have to be immense duty.

1935
01:51:50,010 --> 01:51:53,430
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, man. Oh,
membership. Well, there you go.

1936
01:51:53,460 --> 01:51:53,580
It's

1937
01:51:53,580 --> 01:51:55,770
John C Dvorak: the same with the
Emmys. You have to be a member.

1938
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:57,090
All right.

1939
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:59,220
Adam Curry: Let's switch gears
for a second because there's

1940
01:51:59,220 --> 01:52:03,090
more propaganda. And the reason
is obvious. The propaganda is

1941
01:52:03,090 --> 01:52:05,790
cop 29. I

1942
01:52:05,790 --> 01:52:08,430
John C Dvorak: have a couple of
climate Blips. Because I knew

1943
01:52:08,430 --> 01:52:09,870
you were going to do this. I'll
kick

1944
01:52:09,870 --> 01:52:13,260
Adam Curry: it off with the new
study from the Lancet. This is

1945
01:52:13,260 --> 01:52:13,740
important.

1946
01:52:15,180 --> 01:52:17,940
John C Dvorak: Because whenever
you wait, wait, stop. The Lancet

1947
01:52:17,940 --> 01:52:20,490
is a medical journal. Yes, sir.

1948
01:52:20,820 --> 01:52:23,790
Adam Curry: The Lancet is a
medical journal and is very

1949
01:52:23,790 --> 01:52:26,430
concerned about your climate
health. According

1950
01:52:26,430 --> 01:52:29,760
Unknown: to a report by over 100
Researchers from international

1951
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:34,350
institutions, heat related
deaths could increase 4.7 fold

1952
01:52:34,380 --> 01:52:36,060
by the middle of this century.

1953
01:52:36,090 --> 01:52:39,780
John C Dvorak: Right? Did she
say 100? Racist? Yes 100 racist

1954
01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:41,880
related deaths 100

1955
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:43,740
Adam Curry: racist with hate
related deaths.

1956
01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:46,980
Unknown: According to a report
by over 100 Researchers from

1957
01:52:46,980 --> 01:52:50,940
international institutions, heat
related deaths could increase

1958
01:52:50,970 --> 01:52:55,710
4.7 fold by the middle of this
century without global action on

1959
01:52:55,710 --> 01:52:57,210
climate change, heat

1960
01:52:57,210 --> 01:53:01,230
related mortality of adults over
65 years of age, a very

1961
01:53:01,230 --> 01:53:05,880
vulnerable age groups have
increased by 85% Since the 90s

1962
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:10,410
alone, and we now know that more
than half of that increase

1963
01:53:10,530 --> 01:53:13,410
wouldn't have occurred if
temperatures hadn't increased.

1964
01:53:13,470 --> 01:53:16,260
So we know that it's climate
change coffee with the 2023

1965
01:53:16,260 --> 01:53:20,070
report of the lancet countdown
on health and climate change was

1966
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:23,340
published on Wednesday and
outlines the imperative need for

1967
01:53:23,340 --> 01:53:27,450
a health centered response in a
world facing irreversible harms.

1968
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:32,760
That in 2023, the world saw its
highest global temperatures in

1969
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:38,670
over 100,000 years, and extreme
droughts are growing,

1970
01:53:38,910 --> 01:53:42,780
jeopardizing water security,
sanitation and food production.

1971
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:47,010
One of the solutions posed by
this researcher is to consider

1972
01:53:47,010 --> 01:53:50,520
how infrastructure and economies
plan for rising temperatures.

1973
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,900
For example, the existence of
terraces, green roofs, these

1974
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:59,370
work for Blue Zones, parks with
fountains and climatic shelters

1975
01:53:59,370 --> 01:54:02,610
work, therefore, things that are
known to work at the local level

1976
01:54:02,610 --> 01:54:04,860
should be applied. First,

1977
01:54:04,890 --> 01:54:07,920
he says the goal is to
drastically reduce greenhouse

1978
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:13,290
gas emissions. According to the
report, 1337 tonnes of carbon

1979
01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:17,580
dioxide is still emitted every
second the consequences of which

1980
01:54:17,580 --> 01:54:20,250
could be dire on our health
systems. Now

1981
01:54:20,250 --> 01:54:23,220
Adam Curry: before you hit us
with your clips, by the way,

1982
01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:27,000
that 100,000 years, there's even
more coming up later. In

1983
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America. We have to you know,
this doesn't work for us. Like

1984
01:54:30,450 --> 01:54:33,750
really? I'm gonna die from the
heat. I live in Texas, you know,

1985
01:54:34,140 --> 01:54:37,350
what are you trying to do to me
like, I'm not going to die from

1986
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:40,920
heat related death. Here's how
we do it in America and ABC some

1987
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,350
Unknown: Christmas tree farms
are being forced to close in

1988
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:46,200
multiple states due to a
shortage this year. A Christmas

1989
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,320
tree farm outside New Orleans
says it suffered extensive

1990
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,560
damage due to the drought and
heat this year. And in New York

1991
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,890
one farm says a major shipment
of Fraser trees was cancelled

1992
01:54:56,010 --> 01:54:59,340
due to the shortage forcing the
farm to close for the season.

1993
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:00,210
Oh,

1994
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we didn't want to open just
partial, and have people come in

1995
01:55:03,420 --> 01:55:06,840
and be disappointed. We felt the
right decision was to close the

1996
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form this year. But the field
gets a little bit bigger. Give

1997
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,650
us time to source some trees for
next year.

1998
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,250
Another factor in the tree
shortage the historic wildfires

1999
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:18,540
in Canada this year.

2000
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:22,140
Adam Curry: Climate change baby
it's always Oh, your Christmas

2001
01:55:22,140 --> 01:55:27,210
tree. Oh, oh no honey to emit
less co2. I'm a horrible person.

2002
01:55:28,110 --> 01:55:33,210
My favorite is what they're
doing with Iceland. Iceland.

2003
01:55:33,330 --> 01:55:38,160
Iceland is great. Iceland is I
mean, it is one hotbed of

2004
01:55:38,190 --> 01:55:43,170
volcanic and seismic activity
always has been, always has been

2005
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,750
always has been. So it's a
little worse this year. So we

2006
01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:50,070
have a perpetual drone shot of a
highway that's cracking up. I

2007
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:52,620
wonder what this could be from
what could this be from

2008
01:55:52,650 --> 01:55:56,730
Unknown: Iceland hits once again
by a series of earthquakes. The

2009
01:55:56,730 --> 01:55:59,580
tremors have sparked fears of a
volcanic eruption in the

2010
01:55:59,580 --> 01:56:02,250
Reykjanes Peninsula in the
southwest of the island.

2011
01:56:02,580 --> 01:56:06,720
Authorities have declared a
state of emergency. According to

2012
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,500
the Icelandic Met Office, the
IMO, an eruption could take

2013
01:56:10,500 --> 01:56:15,450
place in several days. According
to the IMO, some 24,000. tremors

2014
01:56:15,450 --> 01:56:18,930
have been registered on the
peninsula since late October, as

2015
01:56:18,930 --> 01:56:23,340
well as three eruptions since
2021. Eruptions which experts

2016
01:56:23,340 --> 01:56:26,670
say could become larger and
increasingly common as climate

2017
01:56:26,670 --> 01:56:30,600
change melts place. The current
deglaciation that's occurring

2018
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:30,720
and

2019
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:37,080
Adam Curry: it's because of the
D glaciation. Listen up Climate

2020
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:37,410
Change

2021
01:56:37,410 --> 01:56:40,470
Unknown: melt glaciers with the
current deglaciation.

2022
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:43,500
Adam Curry: Everybody knows
volcanoes are caused by melting

2023
01:56:43,500 --> 01:56:45,870
glaciers climate change, melt
glaciers,

2024
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:48,600
Unknown: with the current
deglaciation that's occurring in

2025
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:52,830
Iceland is affecting our ELL
volcanoes and magma bodies that

2026
01:56:52,830 --> 01:56:56,370
are residing these volcanoes,
the future would mean even

2027
01:56:56,580 --> 01:57:02,820
frequent or large eruptions.
Iceland has around size, the

2028
01:57:02,820 --> 01:57:05,940
highest number in Europe, and
unpredictable environments for

2029
01:57:05,940 --> 01:57:10,200
its residence into a 2010 an
eruption in the south of the

2030
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,560
island led to the cancellation
of 10s of 1000s of flights,

2031
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,020
leaving some 10 million people
stranded.

2032
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:18,600
John C Dvorak: All climate yet
debt.

2033
01:57:18,990 --> 01:57:25,530
Adam Curry: That was a second. I
think that was France 24

2034
01:57:26,700 --> 01:57:29,880
John C Dvorak: Does it sound
like France? 24 I

2035
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:33,780
Adam Curry: hadn't written down
France 24 That's on the clip.

2036
01:57:34,740 --> 01:57:35,280
But that's

2037
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:40,200
John C Dvorak: gross, but PBS
why PBS basically lying to scare

2038
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,650
people? This is disgusting.
There's that real debt clip just

2039
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,570
irks me. I know. Here's PBS a

2040
01:57:45,570 --> 01:57:48,540
Unknown: UN's weather agency
warned today that greenhouse

2041
01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:52,980
gases in the atmosphere reached
a record high in 2022. With no

2042
01:57:52,980 --> 01:57:56,700
end in sight. New data showed
average concentrations of carbon

2043
01:57:56,700 --> 01:58:01,170
dioxide were 50% above pre
industrial levels for the first

2044
01:58:01,170 --> 01:58:05,370
time. methane and nitrous oxide
were also higher, raising the

2045
01:58:05,370 --> 01:58:07,830
odds of more extreme weather
events

2046
01:58:08,190 --> 01:58:13,170
practically seen an increase of
heat waves waves about half of

2047
01:58:13,170 --> 01:58:16,230
the planet has been facing an
increased flooding events and

2048
01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:20,010
flooding 1/3 of the planet has
been facing an increase of

2049
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,550
drought events and this negative
trend will continue until

2050
01:58:23,550 --> 01:58:26,040
2002 60s. Yes,

2051
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:28,830
John C Dvorak: it's all scaled
up to the big can't wait wait

2052
01:58:28,830 --> 01:58:31,830
wait play this clip climate
worse co2. Is this the same

2053
01:58:31,830 --> 01:58:32,310
clip?

2054
01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:35,250
Unknown: Let me say the UN's
weather agency warned today that

2055
01:58:35,940 --> 01:58:38,370
John C Dvorak: you got it from
PBS. Yes, that's PBS you

2056
01:58:38,370 --> 01:58:39,210
shouldn't be there.

2057
01:58:43,170 --> 01:58:45,930
Adam Curry: There shouldn't be
there. You shouldn't be there. I

2058
01:58:45,930 --> 01:58:49,560
can be at PBS all I want. I
don't go to NTD believe me.

2059
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:50,760
That's you're

2060
01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:55,080
John C Dvorak: at the kind of
the adjunct to that clip is the

2061
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,290
methane report, which is I don't
know why they have to do this.

2062
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,680
Yes. You can't do anything about
methane. I mean, it's not like

2063
01:59:01,710 --> 01:59:04,590
you know, it's his cow farts.
Meanwhile,

2064
01:59:04,590 --> 01:59:07,230
Unknown: European Union
negotiators agreed today on a

2065
01:59:07,230 --> 01:59:10,950
deal to lower methane emissions.
The bloc's energy sector would

2066
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:14,580
have to monitor report and take
action on cutting emissions. The

2067
01:59:14,580 --> 01:59:17,580
deal still needs approval by the
European Parliament and

2068
01:59:17,580 --> 01:59:18,930
executive council.

2069
01:59:19,620 --> 01:59:22,260
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that means
getting rid of more cows. Come

2070
01:59:22,260 --> 01:59:25,170
on. CBS CBS is in on the game.

2071
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,390
Unknown: A new report released
by the White House today shows

2072
01:59:27,390 --> 01:59:30,630
that every corner of the country
is being impacted by climate

2073
01:59:30,630 --> 01:59:32,040
change. Recording

2074
01:59:32,430 --> 01:59:34,020
Adam Curry: every corner of
record.

2075
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:38,070
John C Dvorak: Are you finding
the Fredericksburg, Texas to be

2076
01:59:38,070 --> 01:59:39,870
impacted by climate change? No,

2077
01:59:39,870 --> 01:59:42,120
Adam Curry: because we're not a
corner. We're in

2078
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:46,740
John C Dvorak: kind of a corner.
San Francisco Bay area but I'm

2079
01:59:46,740 --> 01:59:50,490
not seeing it. Yeah, all I'm
saying is lousy weather reports

2080
01:59:50,490 --> 01:59:52,200
that are inaccurate. You

2081
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:56,130
Adam Curry: know if those if
those if the IPCC and the cop 29

2082
01:59:56,130 --> 01:59:59,220
people, if they only if they
were smart, they'd be inviting

2083
01:59:59,220 --> 02:00:00,450
us on the junket. There's

2084
02:00:00,450 --> 02:00:02,340
John C Dvorak: a problem when
you're when you're not

2085
02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:06,840
corruptible. You get on a list
I'm corruptible, give me, you

2086
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,140
say you're corruptible. But the
problem is you're on the list.

2087
02:00:10,410 --> 02:00:13,170
And nobody checks like, you
know, these black lists we have

2088
02:00:13,170 --> 02:00:16,710
for the website and other things
you can't get you got to go find

2089
02:00:16,710 --> 02:00:19,800
what the list is where you're on
that list, and they're not going

2090
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:20,820
to give you the free money.

2091
02:00:22,260 --> 02:00:25,500
Adam Curry: Oh, that's lame. I
see. You too bad. So bad for

2092
02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:29,010
you. CBS got on the Guardian on
this deal. By

2093
02:00:29,010 --> 02:00:31,230
Unknown: the White House today
shows that every corner of the

2094
02:00:31,230 --> 02:00:34,860
country is being impacted by
climate change. That's just one

2095
02:00:34,860 --> 02:00:37,830
of the findings in a new
national climate assessment. The

2096
02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:41,640
first one in five years. CBS has
been Tracy reports on the dire

2097
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:45,000
warnings in our continuing
series on the planet.

2098
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:50,430
stronger storms, devastating
drought, heat waves and

2099
02:00:50,430 --> 02:00:53,700
wildfires. Yeah, the new
National Climate Assessment says

2100
02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:57,780
the effects of climate change in
the US are now far reaching and

2101
02:00:57,780 --> 02:00:58,470
worsening.

2102
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,980
It's affecting Americans right
now no matter where they live.

2103
02:01:02,190 --> 02:01:03,240
Climate scientists

2104
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:06,780
Kate Marvell worked on the
assessment. Are we running out

2105
02:01:06,780 --> 02:01:10,740
of time to avoid the worst
impacts of climate change?

2106
02:01:10,860 --> 02:01:14,460
We are the last generation that
is really going to be able to

2107
02:01:14,460 --> 02:01:17,640
make a meaningful difference in
the in the

2108
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:21,510
US there is now a billion dollar
weather disaster on average

2109
02:01:21,540 --> 02:01:25,710
every three weeks every year to
three per year in the 1980's,

2110
02:01:26,010 --> 02:01:30,780
costing $150 billion dollars.
The report says us greenhouse

2111
02:01:30,780 --> 02:01:33,930
gas emissions mainly from the
burning of fossil fuels are

2112
02:01:33,930 --> 02:01:38,010
falling, but not quickly enough.
Yet wind and solar power are

2113
02:01:39,180 --> 02:01:42,300
John C Dvorak: yes, if they're
falling, they're not going to

2114
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:46,200
co2 numbers all of a sudden to
highest in history, and going up

2115
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:49,290
and not seeming to stop at all
just not enough. So in other

2116
02:01:49,290 --> 02:01:51,990
words, fossil fuels got nothing
to do with the co2. Is that what

2117
02:01:51,990 --> 02:01:54,870
he's saying? Because that's
contradicting what we just

2118
02:01:54,870 --> 02:01:56,130
heard. It's not enough.

2119
02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:59,250
Adam Curry: All you need to hear
is it's not enough you're not

2120
02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:02,550
doing enough. You need carbon
credits to offset your being

2121
02:02:02,580 --> 02:02:05,190
Unknown: burned says us
greenhouse gas emissions mainly

2122
02:02:05,190 --> 02:02:08,580
from the burning of fossil fuels
are falling, but not quickly

2123
02:02:08,580 --> 02:02:12,810
enough. Yet wind and solar power
are rapidly expanding now

2124
02:02:12,810 --> 02:02:14,310
cheaper than burning coal.

2125
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:19,980
Very much in human hands. And
our choices are really going to

2126
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:22,770
determine how hot it's gonna get
in the future.

2127
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,550
Now scientists say we just live
through the hottest 12 months

2128
02:02:26,550 --> 02:02:31,380
and at least 125,000 years. That
should give us a sense of

2129
02:02:31,380 --> 02:02:34,020
urgency about cutting our planet
warming emissions,

2130
02:02:34,050 --> 02:02:36,780
John C Dvorak: and we want to
get the extra 25,000 years it's

2131
02:02:36,780 --> 02:02:37,560
the White House

2132
02:02:37,650 --> 02:02:39,930
Adam Curry: and the White House
is better is better than the

2133
02:02:39,930 --> 02:02:41,190
IPCC and they

2134
02:02:41,190 --> 02:02:45,420
John C Dvorak: said she she said
100,000 25,000 eyes are better.

2135
02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:49,170
We have any documentation for
the temperatures 50,000 years

2136
02:02:49,170 --> 02:02:49,470
ago.

2137
02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:53,790
Adam Curry: Look at this chart.
Look at this graph. It's to the

2138
02:02:53,790 --> 02:02:57,060
right and up what's a hockey
stick? What is wrong with you?

2139
02:02:57,450 --> 02:03:01,290
What is you know, it's lucky on
a podcast because we D platform

2140
02:03:01,290 --> 02:03:07,380
you if you were posting any of
this nonsense on x the funniest

2141
02:03:07,380 --> 02:03:10,800
thing that happened this is
really the funniest. So Greta

2142
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:17,250
Thun Bay, relative Mary who,
amazingly still looks 15 Even

2143
02:03:17,250 --> 02:03:20,490
though she's I think she's legal
to drink. I

2144
02:03:20,490 --> 02:03:23,250
John C Dvorak: think she's like
23 She's up there.

2145
02:03:23,730 --> 02:03:27,750
Adam Curry: Look it up. Now
she's probably 20 She's an

2146
02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:34,770
Amsterdam. And and so this is a
climate rally. And she starts

2147
02:03:35,070 --> 02:03:41,550
talking about Palestine. Which
is odd. No cheese, because you

2148
02:03:41,550 --> 02:03:43,320
know, she's a for hire money.

2149
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:44,280
John C Dvorak: She's 20

2150
02:03:44,370 --> 02:03:46,410
Adam Curry: She's a protester
for hire.

2151
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,620
John C Dvorak: So she, by the
way, is going to be forever a

2152
02:03:49,620 --> 02:03:51,150
kid because she's 411

2153
02:03:52,620 --> 02:03:58,950
Adam Curry: Really? Yep. Troll.
So she's at this climate rally.

2154
02:03:59,340 --> 02:04:00,660
John C Dvorak: And we'll tell
her then Yellin

2155
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:06,150
Adam Curry: You never see him in
the same picture. Do you see

2156
02:04:06,150 --> 02:04:09,390
that the climate rally in
Amsterdam, um, she's spouting

2157
02:04:09,390 --> 02:04:12,810
off about Palestine. And then
some dude comes up and says,

2158
02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:16,290
Hey, I'm here for climate
protest, not for your political

2159
02:04:16,290 --> 02:04:21,750
crap. And then and then a whole
bunch of kids and kids he is bum

2160
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:25,440
rush the guy you know he grabs
the mic. He grabs the mic from

2161
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,890
Greta. She grabs it back she's
like calm down. And then she

2162
02:04:28,890 --> 02:04:32,670
goes into the slogan which is
just baffling. I will narrate

2163
02:04:32,670 --> 02:04:36,600
your listening the people in
power have not been listening

2164
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:39,870
for demonstration of political

2165
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:48,000
grabs the mic

2166
02:04:58,650 --> 02:05:02,850
wait for the new slogan. The
crowd starts the slogan and

2167
02:05:02,850 --> 02:05:03,570
Greta joins.

2168
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:23,760
No climate justice on occupied
land. Explain to me what that

2169
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:24,570
means.

2170
02:05:25,170 --> 02:05:30,510
John C Dvorak: No climate
justice on occupied lands. I

2171
02:05:30,510 --> 02:05:34,560
have Debt Debt is a battler and
their chances, but they're all

2172
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:37,770
chanting so it must have some
meaning to them. Well,

2173
02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:40,620
Adam Curry: so you can't have
climate justice and it's the

2174
02:05:40,650 --> 02:05:44,310
plural, singular on occupied
lands. So they're talking about

2175
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:47,040
Palestine. No climate. No.

2176
02:05:47,940 --> 02:05:50,700
John C Dvorak: We hate all Jews
is what they could have been

2177
02:05:50,700 --> 02:05:54,270
chanting. We hate all Jews.
That's what they should have

2178
02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:59,370
said. The same cadence.

2179
02:06:00,330 --> 02:06:02,340
Adam Curry: No, you need more
though. It's not the same

2180
02:06:02,340 --> 02:06:12,030
cadence. It's not incredible
what's going on in the world? It

2181
02:06:12,060 --> 02:06:17,070
is outrageous. I really have no
idea what they're talking about.

2182
02:06:17,370 --> 02:06:21,420
They're just throwing these I

2183
02:06:22,740 --> 02:06:24,390
John C Dvorak: know, no climate

2184
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:28,170
Adam Curry: justice on occupied
lands. It's fantastic. By the

2185
02:06:28,170 --> 02:06:30,960
John C Dvorak: way, God does not
occupy I mean, it's it's self

2186
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,690
sufficient to operationalize so

2187
02:06:33,690 --> 02:06:35,940
Adam Curry: good. Then the last
thing I'll have in the climate

2188
02:06:35,940 --> 02:06:38,820
just because it's it's kind of
it's related to climate change

2189
02:06:38,820 --> 02:06:42,840
in multiple ways, is this
protest has been going on down

2190
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:47,430
in Panama. And you know, Sir
Mark, has a has a place there

2191
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:52,230
and he's peaceful as half B's
half Panamanian voids zero. No,

2192
02:06:52,230 --> 02:06:56,910
no, no. Mark Hall, the art film
director Omar are the film or

2193
02:06:56,910 --> 02:06:59,670
film guy. So he's been cluing me
into this. He said these

2194
02:06:59,670 --> 02:07:02,220
protests are pretty wild. What's
going on to the whole country is

2195
02:07:02,220 --> 02:07:05,790
protesting. And it's about a
copper mine, which is

2196
02:07:05,820 --> 02:07:10,110
interesting, because we know
that something's up with copper

2197
02:07:10,140 --> 02:07:14,130
in insofar as that copper mines
are not opening, some of them

2198
02:07:14,130 --> 02:07:18,180
are closing, there are estimates
that we will have nowhere near

2199
02:07:18,210 --> 02:07:24,060
enough copper to satisfy the
needs of the incredible electric

2200
02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:29,580
vehicles that will be mandated
across rejected price up works

2201
02:07:29,580 --> 02:07:32,730
well. Well, it's going to be
jacked to high heaven and so I

2202
02:07:32,730 --> 02:07:36,960
found a report which is a local
report but at least it gives us

2203
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:40,530
some insight this is it the same
and that kind of relates to

2204
02:07:40,530 --> 02:07:44,940
climate because here in America,
we saw the this guy shoot to

2205
02:07:44,940 --> 02:07:49,530
protesters and Cold Blood killed
them. And and they were deemed

2206
02:07:49,530 --> 02:07:53,160
climate protesters but they're
not climate protesters. These

2207
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:57,930
are Panamanians who are sick and
tired of their governments

2208
02:07:57,930 --> 02:08:01,170
selling them out like the Panama
Canal. And they don't want to

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02:08:01,170 --> 02:08:06,300
repeat of you know what happened
with that and with Noriega, and

2210
02:08:06,330 --> 02:08:09,660
they don't want that they don't
they want their country to be

2211
02:08:09,660 --> 02:08:12,660
controlled and the money to go
to them, and there's all kinds

2212
02:08:12,660 --> 02:08:18,420
of shenanigans going on. Listen
to that horn. Panama

2213
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:22,500
Unknown: is on fire. Massive
protests are rippling across the

2214
02:08:22,500 --> 02:08:26,970
country. roadblocks, unions on
strike, school and university

2215
02:08:26,970 --> 02:08:31,020
classes canceled. workers,
teachers, indigenous groups are

2216
02:08:31,020 --> 02:08:34,080
in the streets. They're
protesting the government's

2217
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:37,170
approval of a renegotiated
contract with the Canadian

2218
02:08:37,170 --> 02:08:40,920
mining firm for the operation of
central America's largest open

2219
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:45,030
pit copper mine. It's a massive
land concession almost the size

2220
02:08:45,030 --> 02:08:49,320
of the city of Miami. They say
it's a handout to a foreign

2221
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:53,280
company and attack on Panama
sovereignty and a threat to the

2222
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,790
environment. The people in the
streets say they will not back

2223
02:08:56,790 --> 02:09:02,010
down. They have just one demand,
revoke the new contract. The

2224
02:09:02,010 --> 02:09:05,520
copper mine is run by Canada's
first quantum minerals with

2225
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:08,910
investors including the Chinese
state, the US Capital Group,

2226
02:09:08,940 --> 02:09:13,140
fidelity Vanguard, and BlackRock
among others. It has been in

2227
02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:17,520
production since 2019 and
extracting 300,000 tons of

2228
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:21,780
copper a year. But two years
ago, Panama Supreme Court ruled

2229
02:09:21,780 --> 02:09:25,050
that the state contract with the
mind was unconstitutional

2230
02:09:25,290 --> 02:09:28,830
because it did not serve the
public good. The contract was

2231
02:09:28,830 --> 02:09:32,160
renegotiated. This one
government officials said was a

2232
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:36,210
huge improvement, offering
windfall profits for the state.

2233
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:40,140
Last week, it was fast tracked
through Congress and signed into

2234
02:09:40,140 --> 02:09:44,340
law by the President. But not
without resistance. The

2235
02:09:44,340 --> 02:09:47,370
government has celebrated the
new mining contract he guessed

2236
02:09:47,370 --> 02:09:51,240
they say it's a huge win for the
country that will save 40,000

2237
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:55,110
direct and indirect jobs and
provide sizeable profits from

2238
02:09:55,110 --> 02:09:58,560
mining royalties to the state.
In an effort to appease the

2239
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,830
growing unrest President
Florentino cortizo spoke to the

2240
02:10:01,830 --> 02:10:04,860
country on Tuesday and announced
that by next month his

2241
02:10:04,860 --> 02:10:07,890
government would be using these
funds to lift pensions for

2242
02:10:07,890 --> 02:10:14,010
retirees to a minimum of $350 a
month. 75% rise over the current

2243
02:10:14,010 --> 02:10:18,570
minimum, but it only fueled the
fire in the streets. Most

2244
02:10:18,570 --> 02:10:22,140
Panamanian saw the proposed
measure as an attempt to buy off

2245
02:10:22,140 --> 02:10:25,830
retirees, while ignoring the
central demand of the protest,

2246
02:10:26,010 --> 02:10:29,370
roads and major portions of the
Pan American highway remain

2247
02:10:29,370 --> 02:10:33,570
blocked across the country. This
sentiment that the contract is

2248
02:10:33,570 --> 02:10:37,320
an attack on Panamanian
sovereignty runs deep and it's

2249
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:40,350
an important reason why the
protests have gained so much

2250
02:10:40,350 --> 02:10:43,800
traction. Political analysts say
that in order to truly

2251
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,980
understand why so much of the
population is against this

2252
02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:50,100
mining contract, you have to
look to the past

2253
02:10:50,610 --> 02:10:52,800
Adam Curry: good we've covered
it I don't know if we can do

2254
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,110
anything else about it. Well, I

2255
02:10:55,110 --> 02:10:57,780
John C Dvorak: like to look to
the past well

2256
02:10:57,780 --> 02:11:00,030
Adam Curry: the past is that
then they go into the Panama

2257
02:11:00,030 --> 02:11:05,190
Canal and and how that was you
know, I don't think Panama owns

2258
02:11:05,190 --> 02:11:06,210
the Panama Canal

2259
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,500
John C Dvorak: pretty sure they
don't know it's called the Canal

2260
02:11:10,500 --> 02:11:14,640
Zone is is a separate entity
exact amount of ownership as a

2261
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:17,820
matter of sovereignty they don't
have any sovereignty over

2262
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:20,280
Adam Curry: the whole country is
pretty pissed.

2263
02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:24,990
John C Dvorak: This thing was a
little late for that. They shut

2264
02:11:24,990 --> 02:11:28,410
the whole country pissed earlier
now sudden they're pissed that

2265
02:11:28,410 --> 02:11:31,710
means those agitators that are
making this happen. Oh, and I

2266
02:11:31,710 --> 02:11:34,290
would say Marxists. Oh probably
will

2267
02:11:34,290 --> 02:11:38,250
Adam Curry: probably probably
Yeah. Anymore

2268
02:11:38,250 --> 02:11:41,760
John C Dvorak: can kind of go
step by the I'm still befuddled.

2269
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:43,710
In fact, by the Reddit Thun berg

2270
02:11:44,580 --> 02:11:49,470
Adam Curry: is horrible, isn't
it? No climate justice

2271
02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:53,850
unoccupied land. nuke the polar
bear. I mean, what are you going

2272
02:11:53,850 --> 02:11:56,670
to say we got we got to do
something here.

2273
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,490
John C Dvorak: I haven't asked
Adam before we get to our break.

2274
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:03,030
Adam Curry: Oh well good. I'm
excited about that. That

2275
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:04,740
John C Dvorak: did questions
answered right at the beginning.

2276
02:12:05,310 --> 02:12:05,670
But let

2277
02:12:05,670 --> 02:12:09,900
Adam Curry: me play the new and
updated ask Adam jingle their

2278
02:12:13,110 --> 02:12:19,080
answer the question go. I like
it.

2279
02:12:19,110 --> 02:12:23,220
John C Dvorak: I like it. Yeah,
doing my answer the question go

2280
02:12:23,310 --> 02:12:26,220
right. Mark Levin. All right. So

2281
02:12:26,220 --> 02:12:28,830
Adam Curry: what is the
question? Who

2282
02:12:28,830 --> 02:12:33,720
John C Dvorak: controls 70% of
the diamond trade industry that

2283
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:37,230
do trade in diamonds is
controlled by one country? Yes.

2284
02:12:37,530 --> 02:12:40,980
But to the tune of 70%? If you
don't know the answer to this

2285
02:12:40,980 --> 02:12:47,220
question just offhand, which I
I'd be surprised you'll never

2286
02:12:47,220 --> 02:12:47,700
get it.

2287
02:12:49,110 --> 02:12:52,260
Adam Curry: I am going to think
about this who controls the

2288
02:12:52,260 --> 02:12:53,100
diamonds Oh

2289
02:12:53,100 --> 02:12:53,730
John C Dvorak: look it up

2290
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:57,960
Adam Curry: I'm not I'm not
doing I'm in fact I have my eyes

2291
02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:04,980
closed. I promise you. I am
going to say answer the question

2292
02:13:04,980 --> 02:13:08,340
go. I'm going to say the
Netherlands with DeBeers mining

2293
02:13:12,090 --> 02:13:13,320
do I get to play the clip now?

2294
02:13:14,490 --> 02:13:18,360
Unknown: Go Russian diamonds
account for 70% of global

2295
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:23,400
diamond jewelry demand. She's a
Russian. Yep. Major Western

2296
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:27,000
jewelers from Tiffany's to
Cartier has been keen to

2297
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,120
distance themselves from
Russia's lucrative diamond

2298
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:33,840
trade. But a big hurdle is how
to trace the origin of the

2299
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:38,220
stones. Some companies will
struggle this is to gun Taft. We

2300
02:13:38,220 --> 02:13:42,870
can do it because we have we've
been working on traceability for

2301
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:45,360
the last two years. You should
know that people we've been

2302
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:49,680
working with with big brands.
Traceability is not something

2303
02:13:49,680 --> 02:13:54,180
that's that comes out of the sky
as of now. All the new player

2304
02:13:54,180 --> 02:13:59,280
the players in in the industry
who have not yet started

2305
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:02,100
restricts ability are going to
lag behind for sure.

2306
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:06,300
He said that not only would a
full Western ban on Russian gems

2307
02:14:06,300 --> 02:14:10,200
be costly for the industry. It
could also take another year to

2308
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:11,430
fully implement.

2309
02:14:11,820 --> 02:14:12,930
Adam Curry: Oh man,

2310
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,480
John C Dvorak: I didn't rush to
take over the business under

2311
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:20,250
right beneath our noses. Nobody
knows about I was stunned by

2312
02:14:20,250 --> 02:14:24,630
this. I would have guessed
Belgium. Holland. Yeah. Right.

2313
02:14:24,630 --> 02:14:27,450
Belgium would have been good.
Yeah. If they said China, I

2314
02:14:27,450 --> 02:14:29,400
would not have been surprised.

2315
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:35,160
Adam Curry: No, no. Wow, the
more you know, I just got a text

2316
02:14:35,160 --> 02:14:36,540
message I'd like to share with
you.

2317
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:40,200
John C Dvorak: Friend You guys
suck. Get off the air.

2318
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:45,240
Adam Curry: Quite friend. It's
Kamala. How do you take your

2319
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:48,990
coffee cream and sugar black?
I'm asking because we're

2320
02:14:48,990 --> 02:14:52,230
offering an all expenses paid
trip for you and a guest to grab

2321
02:14:52,230 --> 02:14:56,580
a coffee with Joe and me. Enter
to win by chipping in any amount

2322
02:14:56,580 --> 02:15:00,900
of this link. We'd love to meet
you. And a picture Have our vice

2323
02:15:00,900 --> 02:15:01,620
president

2324
02:15:03,659 --> 02:15:05,729
John C Dvorak: How does they
this is the same group that did

2325
02:15:05,729 --> 02:15:09,899
Hillary stuff back in 2016.
Yeah, I know this particular

2326
02:15:10,169 --> 02:15:14,759
promotion yes chip in and it's
always to chip in and you'll get

2327
02:15:14,759 --> 02:15:17,009
on this and then they pick
somebody out of a hat and

2328
02:15:17,009 --> 02:15:20,009
supposedly have dinner or lunch
or something with them. It's

2329
02:15:20,009 --> 02:15:22,529
somewhere in there it has to be
a disclaimer because this is an

2330
02:15:22,529 --> 02:15:26,249
illegal lottery unless they
allow you to put your name into

2331
02:15:26,249 --> 02:15:28,199
the hat without chipping in a
nickel.

2332
02:15:28,230 --> 02:15:30,780
Adam Curry: Let me click on the
link let me see it is act blue

2333
02:15:30,780 --> 02:15:36,120
as as we expected. Contribution
rules bah bah bah I'm not a

2334
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:41,100
federal contract I have my own
personal credit card. The Baba

2335
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:45,180
the first 6000 or 10,000 Go to
bed and says where it goes from

2336
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:49,320
you have questions? No purchase
payment or contributions

2337
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:52,620
necessary to win to enter or win
and will not improve chances of

2338
02:15:52,620 --> 02:15:54,750
winning Void where prohibited by
law this promotion begins

2339
02:15:54,750 --> 02:15:59,310
November five Yep. Well why
don't we do this as a promotion?

2340
02:15:59,490 --> 02:16:03,570
Hey friend, would you like to
have coffee with Ben with Adam

2341
02:16:03,570 --> 02:16:06,810
and John why don't you chip in
no purchase necessary it's

2342
02:16:06,810 --> 02:16:09,120
perfect. And with that I'd like
to thank you for your courage

2343
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:12,300
say in the morning to the man
who just put the sea and chip in

2344
02:16:12,300 --> 02:16:14,940
ladies gentlemen say hello to my
friend on the other end of one

2345
02:16:14,940 --> 02:16:16,380
only Mr. Jobs

2346
02:16:19,230 --> 02:16:21,990
John C Dvorak: nail in the
morning you Mr. Adam curry also

2347
02:16:21,990 --> 02:16:25,110
in the morning your ships and
sea boots on the ground sitting

2348
02:16:25,110 --> 02:16:28,740
in the air subsidy watering
nights out there and

2349
02:16:28,740 --> 02:16:31,320
Adam Curry: in the morning. The
trolls and the troll room.

2350
02:16:31,980 --> 02:16:35,070
Trolls Good to see the
whatever's left

2351
02:16:40,139 --> 02:16:44,909
if I subtract Janet Yellen and
Greta tune Barry, we got what do

2352
02:16:44,909 --> 02:16:53,369
we have? 1721. Down Down. Trolls
are deserted

2353
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:57,090
John C Dvorak: by a good 100
people.

2354
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:00,570
Adam Curry: Yeah, trolls that
people trolls? Yeah. You know

2355
02:17:00,570 --> 02:17:03,840
why is because of my hate of
memes. And?

2356
02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:06,390
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
it's you.

2357
02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:08,549
Adam Curry: It's just me. Is
that where you go ahead?

2358
02:17:08,579 --> 02:17:11,009
John C Dvorak: Yes, you hated
me. Nobody cares.

2359
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:13,050
Adam Curry: It has nothing to do
with the fact that we won't take

2360
02:17:13,050 --> 02:17:17,550
a side won't pick a side. You
got to pick a side. You've got

2361
02:17:17,550 --> 02:17:19,170
to denounce genocide because

2362
02:17:19,710 --> 02:17:21,570
John C Dvorak: I'll pick I'm
gonna pick a side right now. All

2363
02:17:21,570 --> 02:17:27,570
right. I think I think spinach
with the cream sauce would be

2364
02:17:27,570 --> 02:17:30,840
good. That's a good site I've
always liked it is as good as

2365
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:32,100
steak Steakhouse. And

2366
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:34,470
Adam Curry: what's so sad is
that even our people are spun

2367
02:17:34,470 --> 02:17:36,930
up. And they think they have to
pick a side. And if you end they

2368
02:17:36,930 --> 02:17:39,390
don't understand that they're
being abused by political

2369
02:17:39,390 --> 02:17:43,050
parties who want you to vote
against the people who pick the

2370
02:17:43,050 --> 02:17:46,260
wrong side. They don't care
about anything else. They don't

2371
02:17:46,260 --> 02:17:50,970
care. They don't care about you.
We barely care about you. We a

2372
02:17:50,970 --> 02:17:51,570
little bit.

2373
02:17:52,380 --> 02:17:54,900
John C Dvorak: We care a lot
about them. As you mentioned

2374
02:17:54,900 --> 02:17:58,590
you'd like even the rotunda?
Yes, of people in the

2375
02:17:59,100 --> 02:17:59,880
especially.

2376
02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:03,300
Adam Curry: Yes, of course, we
love our producers. That's why

2377
02:18:03,300 --> 02:18:09,060
we call them producers, not
fans, or listeners, or listeners

2378
02:18:09,060 --> 02:18:14,400
or data or numbers to sell to an
advertiser. The advertiser none

2379
02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:17,550
of that, in fact, we only call
these people trolls because we

2380
02:18:17,550 --> 02:18:22,410
allow you to go crazy and troll
in an ephemeral place to a point

2381
02:18:22,470 --> 02:18:25,050
with nobody, you can't even get
in trouble. Like it goes away

2382
02:18:25,050 --> 02:18:27,690
you troll and you're done. It's
like, and it makes you it's

2383
02:18:27,690 --> 02:18:32,130
actually it is good for mine.
Look at some of my terms here.

2384
02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:38,250
This is a good mental health
experience. To be in the troll

2385
02:18:38,250 --> 02:18:45,150
room. And to just go I mean,
that's it's a good mental health

2386
02:18:45,150 --> 02:18:48,390
experience because you won't get
in trouble. You don't have to

2387
02:18:48,390 --> 02:18:52,170
use your registered Nikki Haley
name. You know, you can just

2388
02:18:52,170 --> 02:18:56,520
call whatever you want. You
know, and it's not going to bug

2389
02:18:56,520 --> 02:18:59,070
me because it scrolls off. You
do it on no agenda, socially a

2390
02:18:59,070 --> 02:19:03,150
different story. You can follow
Adam and no agenda social.com

2391
02:19:03,150 --> 02:19:07,500
Jhansi Dvorak on your case there
Oh yeah. be doing the troll room

2392
02:19:07,560 --> 02:19:10,860
you golden troll room.io is
where you can join or get a

2393
02:19:10,860 --> 02:19:14,790
modern podcast app at podcast
apps.com where you can listen to

2394
02:19:14,790 --> 02:19:19,080
the live stream and many of them
depending on your platform will

2395
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:21,960
alert you when we go live with
the with a live stream you can

2396
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:26,190
troll along you can listen to no
agenda stream.com I mean we

2397
02:19:26,190 --> 02:19:31,140
offer the full size full
spectrum of troll ability and we

2398
02:19:31,140 --> 02:19:36,420
encourage it is good is good for
you. Then everything else where

2399
02:19:36,420 --> 02:19:39,450
you post something and respond
to something and start a new

2400
02:19:39,450 --> 02:19:41,970
thread is not good for your it's
not a good mental health

2401
02:19:41,970 --> 02:19:45,720
experience. And don't do that.
Do it here come to the troll

2402
02:19:45,720 --> 02:19:49,080
room patrol to your heart's
content to troll others yellow

2403
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:52,350
people call them names. It's
perfectly okay. It's only a

2404
02:19:52,350 --> 02:19:55,530
couple of things. You can't be
can't like flood post. You can't

2405
02:19:55,530 --> 02:19:58,260
do anything else. But you know,
just do it. It's good. You'll

2406
02:19:58,260 --> 02:20:02,340
love it and we We've been doing
this now for 16 years. We're

2407
02:20:02,340 --> 02:20:05,100
very happy I did an interview
the other day an interview with

2408
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:07,950
Forbes. We'll see if it makes it
in.

2409
02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:10,770
John C Dvorak: What did you do?
Let's explain. No, they

2410
02:20:10,770 --> 02:20:12,810
Adam Curry: asked me to talk
about value for value. I said,

2411
02:20:12,810 --> 02:20:14,550
Well, let me tell you how it
works. Let me tell you what we

2412
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:17,310
did when we tell you our story.
No agenda. Adam, Adam curry,

2413
02:20:17,310 --> 02:20:20,400
Jhansi, Dvorak, 16 years value
for value. We said you liked

2414
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:23,640
this value, send us some value
back. Wow, really? That's

2415
02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:25,770
awesome. Yes. Awesome.

2416
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:30,090
John C Dvorak: You got called by
Forbes writer is obviously

2417
02:20:30,090 --> 02:20:31,800
thinking of doing a podcast.

2418
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:34,230
Adam Curry: Aren't they all?

2419
02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:37,650
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they
call you they gotta get some

2420
02:20:37,650 --> 02:20:39,750
tips. He's looking for help.
Actually,

2421
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:42,300
Adam Curry: this guy was nice.
He's just getting out of the

2422
02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:46,290
military. He has three kids. He
wants to move back to Texas. And

2423
02:20:46,290 --> 02:20:53,460
Forbes picked him up as a
writer. So now, I hope that he

2424
02:20:53,490 --> 02:20:54,840
that he makes it through the

2425
02:20:55,380 --> 02:20:57,630
John C Dvorak: desert. What was
the point of the article?

2426
02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:02,910
Adam Curry: Open Source and
value for value? Open Source?

2427
02:21:02,940 --> 02:21:05,310
Yeah, like Mastodon, that kind
of value

2428
02:21:05,310 --> 02:21:10,050
John C Dvorak: for value. Yeah.
It's a pretty solid boring. As

2429
02:21:10,050 --> 02:21:11,820
far as hope you'd live ended up.

2430
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:16,950
Adam Curry: I said where I was
with a guy like Jhansi. Dvorak

2431
02:21:16,950 --> 02:21:22,260
have a gig in media. Come on.
This is good stuff. Both of us

2432
02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:28,110
actually, to be fair about it. I
did also did an interview with

2433
02:21:28,110 --> 02:21:32,100
The Canary Cry talk news, guys.
I'm on the interview path. I'm

2434
02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:33,660
promoting our show again. I'm
back out

2435
02:21:33,660 --> 02:21:36,720
John C Dvorak: on the road. And
I'm good with it. Yeah, but

2436
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:39,150
you're good at it. And you're a
handsome man. That's what makes

2437
02:21:39,150 --> 02:21:39,570
it work.

2438
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:42,030
Adam Curry: And I love showing
my new teeth. That's the best.

2439
02:21:42,750 --> 02:21:45,690
That's rich. Oh, man. I just
love him. I love him. Because

2440
02:21:45,690 --> 02:21:47,610
John C Dvorak: you're on video.
Is that what you're telling me?

2441
02:21:47,610 --> 02:21:50,160
Yeah. A canary in a coal mine?
Yes. Yeah,

2442
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:53,130
Adam Curry: they do. A lot of a
lot of everyone does video was

2443
02:21:53,130 --> 02:21:56,820
like, why are you doing video
man is a pain in the butt. It's

2444
02:21:56,820 --> 02:21:59,580
John C Dvorak: a total pain in
the butt cost money. Yep. And it

2445
02:21:59,580 --> 02:22:01,950
does get and you obviously are
going to have your own

2446
02:22:01,950 --> 02:22:05,280
infrastructure. So in this shot,
well, maybe I mean, you could

2447
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:08,760
probably hold on their pitch
shoot, or oh,

2448
02:22:09,090 --> 02:22:13,620
Adam Curry: oh, oh, this is the
most exciting one. On Wednesday,

2449
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:19,500
I will be interviewed by the
founder and CEO. I already have

2450
02:22:19,530 --> 02:22:20,490
Bridey on

2451
02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:30,090
John C Dvorak: the founder and
CEO of Bridey. On Yes. I know.

2452
02:22:30,090 --> 02:22:30,540
Adam Curry: Right.

2453
02:22:31,050 --> 02:22:33,900
John C Dvorak: Is he What is he
as a podcaster?

2454
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:36,660
Adam Curry: Well, let me see him
in look at the email here for a

2455
02:22:36,660 --> 02:22:37,170
second.

2456
02:22:39,690 --> 02:22:42,450
John C Dvorak: I mean, it seems
that a CEO should be a CEO.

2457
02:22:42,810 --> 02:22:47,580
Adam Curry: Yeah, but he does a
podcast also about I can't I'm

2458
02:22:47,580 --> 02:22:55,200
looking for it now. I thought I
had it in my Yeah. Well, he does

2459
02:22:55,230 --> 02:22:59,280
interviews with the with people
who are you know, like a free

2460
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:07,620
speech? Free speech. Free
speech? I can hear you're

2461
02:23:07,620 --> 02:23:08,220
baffled.

2462
02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:12,690
John C Dvorak: I'm kind of Yeah.
Is he Pete Santilli? No,

2463
02:23:12,690 --> 02:23:14,910
Adam Curry: no, no, let me look.
Let me see Bridey on let me let

2464
02:23:14,910 --> 02:23:18,660
me find this email. Mike Adams
is on Bridey on Yeah. Yeah,

2465
02:23:18,750 --> 02:23:21,540
that's right. And he's he's
about as free speech as you can

2466
02:23:21,540 --> 02:23:26,460
get. He's been interviewed by
him. Gosh. Well, that's

2467
02:23:26,460 --> 02:23:30,330
interesting. I thought I had
saved this in my bookings

2468
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:35,970
folder. I hope they email me
with details. But yeah, it's

2469
02:23:37,260 --> 02:23:42,450
here is Oh, it is actually it is
Mike Adams. You're

2470
02:23:42,450 --> 02:23:45,000
John C Dvorak: going to be
interviewed by Mike Adams. Yes.

2471
02:23:46,980 --> 02:23:49,950
Adam Curry: I think he's the
founder and CEO here. That's the

2472
02:23:49,950 --> 02:23:50,640
natural

2473
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:52,380
John C Dvorak: news guy right
there. My

2474
02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:55,380
Adam Curry: name is saili. I'm
thrilled to connect with you on

2475
02:23:55,380 --> 02:23:59,160
behalf of Mike Adams, founder of
bright young.com A free speech

2476
02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:03,600
platform. Mike has just launched
a show called decentralized TV,

2477
02:24:03,870 --> 02:24:07,440
where he delves into the realms
of defy daps and the tangible

2478
02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:10,830
impact of technology on
humanity, championing privacy

2479
02:24:10,830 --> 02:24:15,090
and decentralization. And at
first, I thought this was one of

2480
02:24:15,090 --> 02:24:23,460
those things we have to pay. But
they actually say, our show to

2481
02:24:23,460 --> 02:24:26,820
him. What's even more enticing
is that we're not seeking

2482
02:24:26,820 --> 02:24:29,280
anything from you other than
your valuable time.

2483
02:24:30,990 --> 02:24:32,970
John C Dvorak: So it is that's
interesting, you know, no one

2484
02:24:32,970 --> 02:24:36,690
ever puts that in there unless
they normally charge. So

2485
02:24:36,690 --> 02:24:38,400
Adam Curry: maybe he's going to
do the interview. And then he

2486
02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:40,620
says, now do you want me to post
this? You got to pay me would

2487
02:24:40,620 --> 02:24:44,760
that what he's doing? That would
be funny. Oh, that would be

2488
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:48,300
funny. I'm gonna run a recording
next to this just in

2489
02:24:48,300 --> 02:24:51,120
John C Dvorak: case. Yeah, you
should definitely record it.

2490
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:53,460
Adam Curry: I like white like in
the chat room. Curry. That's

2491
02:24:53,460 --> 02:24:56,250
great. You'll get at least
another 15 More people listening

2492
02:24:56,250 --> 02:24:56,940
to the show,

2493
02:24:58,290 --> 02:24:59,970
John C Dvorak: I guess in 10
years.

2494
02:25:00,060 --> 02:25:03,270
Adam Curry: Hey man, I'm taking
it all I'm just trying to help

2495
02:25:03,270 --> 02:25:03,990
out the show.

2496
02:25:04,140 --> 02:25:06,030
John C Dvorak: We know I think
you shouldn't do it but we're

2497
02:25:06,030 --> 02:25:10,410
losing P O er because we're we
always lose people we lost

2498
02:25:10,410 --> 02:25:14,340
people during the Codex Vax
COVID thing and you know in

2499
02:25:14,340 --> 02:25:19,290
their current curiously most of
them are dead and then you're

2500
02:25:19,290 --> 02:25:24,420
horrible and then we lose the
last people and no Ukraine war

2501
02:25:24,420 --> 02:25:24,750
we lost

2502
02:25:24,750 --> 02:25:27,690
Adam Curry: a lot lost a lot
Ukraine war

2503
02:25:27,690 --> 02:25:29,640
John C Dvorak: because remember
sights on that Do you remember

2504
02:25:29,640 --> 02:25:30,270
how

2505
02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:34,980
Adam Curry: furious people were?
I can't believe this is this is

2506
02:25:34,980 --> 02:25:38,700
genocide of the Ukrainian people
you're carrying water for Putin

2507
02:25:38,700 --> 02:25:41,850
You're horrible you're running
water but I can't believe you I

2508
02:25:41,850 --> 02:25:45,150
can't believe that you you're
just laughing about children and

2509
02:25:45,150 --> 02:25:46,650
babies being killed we do

2510
02:25:46,650 --> 02:25:48,930
John C Dvorak: is deconstruct
news. I mean, what is what's

2511
02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:50,880
what's what's to complain about?

2512
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:53,970
Adam Curry: I think it's the
laughing that people don't like.

2513
02:25:54,390 --> 02:25:56,850
John C Dvorak: I you know,
people need to get it. Loosen

2514
02:25:56,850 --> 02:25:57,210
up.

2515
02:25:57,300 --> 02:25:57,960
Adam Curry: I'm with you.

2516
02:25:58,230 --> 02:26:00,870
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we do laugh
probably at things, you know,

2517
02:26:00,870 --> 02:26:04,650
but we're not laughing at the
day. We're not laughing at Dead

2518
02:26:04,650 --> 02:26:07,890
Ukrainians. No, no, we're
laughing at the stupidity of the

2519
02:26:07,890 --> 02:26:11,880
news media and the people who
lap it up. And then people will

2520
02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:16,920
lap it up like like an parrot it
Yeah. lap, lap lap and then they

2521
02:26:16,920 --> 02:26:18,360
you know, off they go

2522
02:26:19,650 --> 02:26:24,300
Adam Curry: lap lap lap and off
they go okay. It's it is your

2523
02:26:24,300 --> 02:26:30,750
slogan lap lap lap and off you
go. So as a part of the value

2524
02:26:30,750 --> 02:26:33,060
for value proposition, which I
guess we'll be talking to Mike

2525
02:26:33,060 --> 02:26:33,840
Adams about

2526
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:37,350
John C Dvorak: hey, man, what is
the same Mike Adams? I

2527
02:26:37,350 --> 02:26:38,010
Adam Curry: think it is.

2528
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:40,470
John C Dvorak: I think I don't
know if that it is there's the

2529
02:26:40,650 --> 02:26:44,460
problem with the name Mike Adams
is there are a lot of Mike Adams

2530
02:26:44,460 --> 02:26:48,060
in the in the foam. There's like
it's like, you know, Adam curry.

2531
02:26:48,060 --> 02:26:49,170
There's too many of them.

2532
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:52,500
Adam Curry: You know, all the
other atom curries are black.

2533
02:26:53,460 --> 02:26:55,590
John C Dvorak: Yet? Well, that's
the funny thing of it, isn't it?

2534
02:26:55,650 --> 02:27:00,810
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a
lot of them. How

2535
02:27:00,810 --> 02:27:03,360
Adam Curry: do you know? Is
there an Adam curry convention I

2536
02:27:03,360 --> 02:27:03,930
missed?

2537
02:27:05,310 --> 02:27:06,330
John C Dvorak: They probably
should be.

2538
02:27:08,700 --> 02:27:11,790
Adam Curry: Artists are part of
our time, talent and treasure

2539
02:27:11,790 --> 02:27:15,480
value for value mechanism, which
we appreciate because these

2540
02:27:15,480 --> 02:27:19,770
pieces of artwork do very well
for the show. People like to

2541
02:27:19,770 --> 02:27:23,280
comment on them people like to
fight over them. People like to

2542
02:27:23,340 --> 02:27:27,960
put it on T shirts, hats, mugs,
cozies and other paraphernalia,

2543
02:27:27,960 --> 02:27:32,520
which is all run and organized
by a non affiliated group called

2544
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:36,750
no agenda shop. No agenda
shop.com They make a donation

2545
02:27:36,750 --> 02:27:40,710
from time to time we love the
whole idea of y'all y'all. Just

2546
02:27:40,740 --> 02:27:44,370
owning it all and doing it all.
All we want to do is just do the

2547
02:27:44,370 --> 02:27:47,730
show. We just want to do the
show deconstruct the media and

2548
02:27:47,730 --> 02:27:49,830
we don't even talk to each other
outside of the show. We have

2549
02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:53,850
nothing to say to each other.
Nothing. Although Tina is always

2550
02:27:53,850 --> 02:27:56,490
a little irked just after the
show you guys are always

2551
02:27:56,490 --> 02:28:01,020
laughing it up. You're giggling
your God and giggling after the

2552
02:28:01,020 --> 02:28:02,550
show. But that's usually because
we're

2553
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:04,740
John C Dvorak: looking at this
is women jealousy they don't

2554
02:28:04,740 --> 02:28:10,500
like they don't like approach.
Mimi says Mimi what was Mimi's

2555
02:28:10,500 --> 02:28:14,550
comment? She says, you know you
were too happy on the last show.

2556
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:17,850
What are you talking about?
She's you are just like, Yo,

2557
02:28:17,850 --> 02:28:21,210
you're all Jedi on the show.
Like, you know, I sent my med

2558
02:28:21,210 --> 02:28:25,080
two cups of coffee is I don't
know and she's good grouse about

2559
02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:25,170
it.

2560
02:28:25,170 --> 02:28:26,730
Adam Curry: She was unhappy
because of we were talking

2561
02:28:26,760 --> 02:28:29,340
laughing but we were happy about
death. Is that what it is?

2562
02:28:29,340 --> 02:28:29,910
Again? No,

2563
02:28:29,910 --> 02:28:32,790
John C Dvorak: I just have no
idea. We're not happy about

2564
02:28:32,790 --> 02:28:33,630
death. By the way.

2565
02:28:33,690 --> 02:28:36,750
Adam Curry: I think you nailed
her voice. That was so close to

2566
02:28:36,810 --> 02:28:37,680
exactly. I'm

2567
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:39,510
John C Dvorak: not supposed to
use that voice for her. I chose

2568
02:28:39,510 --> 02:28:47,520
to use you change it. Boy, you
were too happy. She agreed that

2569
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:49,020
I could do that voice for her.

2570
02:28:49,230 --> 02:28:54,120
Adam Curry: I'd like the other
one. I have my opening clip. So

2571
02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:56,820
let us thank the artists who
brought us the artwork for

2572
02:28:56,820 --> 02:29:02,880
episode 1607 incorrectly listed
as 1707 in our intro and

2573
02:29:02,880 --> 02:29:07,050
incorrectly posted a 1606 but we
fix it all most of it. Sorry

2574
02:29:07,050 --> 02:29:14,220
about that. I'm getting older
mistakes creeping up could have

2575
02:29:14,220 --> 02:29:16,800
guessed if you're an artist that
we would like to do something

2576
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:20,910
for our veterans on Veterans Day
many of you nailed it. correct

2577
02:29:20,910 --> 02:29:25,140
the record completely got it and
brought us a nice piece of

2578
02:29:25,140 --> 02:29:29,400
artwork with no agenda with a
salute there with the flag. And

2579
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:32,430
thank you vets was really what
what took it over the top for

2580
02:29:32,430 --> 02:29:32,820
us.

2581
02:29:32,940 --> 02:29:35,040
John C Dvorak: Yes, that was
that little cut little thing and

2582
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:39,510
there was other good art about
vets. There was a thank you very

2583
02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:43,320
little ditty Yeah, cuz this was
kind of a one dimensional piece.

2584
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:47,070
It wasn't like anything that was
outrageously artsy.

2585
02:29:47,550 --> 02:29:50,400
Adam Curry: No, by no stretch of
the imagination, actually.

2586
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:50,820
Right.

2587
02:29:51,090 --> 02:29:54,450
John C Dvorak: It was click
Clean and it had the thank you

2588
02:29:54,450 --> 02:29:57,540
on there and it was did the
trick.

2589
02:29:58,290 --> 02:30:02,160
Adam Curry: We we For an
interesting week, the comics or

2590
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:05,400
Blogger had a complete AI piece
which I think I actually found

2591
02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:09,960
myself voting for a little bit.
For my life or two, I

2592
02:30:09,960 --> 02:30:11,640
John C Dvorak: thought it was
quite nice. And then we just

2593
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:13,410
Adam Curry: Nix it under the AI
rule.

2594
02:30:16,320 --> 02:30:20,250
John C Dvorak: Can I think half
the stuff on here is AI Yeah,

2595
02:30:20,250 --> 02:30:21,630
Adam Curry: but we're in AI hell

2596
02:30:23,130 --> 02:30:25,410
John C Dvorak: we knew about it.
Let me see wow, like Cape

2597
02:30:25,980 --> 02:30:27,750
themselves are using it. A lot
came

2598
02:30:27,750 --> 02:30:32,010
Adam Curry: in after the fact.
Which is really a shame. Why was

2599
02:30:32,010 --> 02:30:32,340
gaming

2600
02:30:32,340 --> 02:30:35,370
John C Dvorak: after the film?
Look at the list, man. I'm

2601
02:30:35,370 --> 02:30:36,450
looking at it now.

2602
02:30:37,230 --> 02:30:42,090
Adam Curry: I mean, I don't
remember meme and a can. I do

2603
02:30:42,120 --> 02:30:42,750
you do.

2604
02:30:45,390 --> 02:30:48,060
John C Dvorak: I like to me
minicam that came through the

2605
02:30:48,060 --> 02:30:51,720
only one that that showed up
late and far as I can remember

2606
02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:54,450
is the dog which I use for the
newsletter, which is the good

2607
02:30:54,450 --> 02:30:55,170
news. Oh,

2608
02:30:55,170 --> 02:30:57,930
Adam Curry: yeah, you don't
Okay. Yeah, maybe it's just my

2609
02:30:58,410 --> 02:30:59,940
my memory shot yet

2610
02:30:59,940 --> 02:31:03,330
John C Dvorak: when definitely
came in after the fact. There

2611
02:31:03,330 --> 02:31:05,400
Adam Curry: were lots of good
pieces here. But we just wanted

2612
02:31:05,400 --> 02:31:08,700
to do a veteran's and you know,
and I can tell you right now,

2613
02:31:08,730 --> 02:31:15,420
Christmas, New Christmas. All
right. Get with it. Right. Yeah,

2614
02:31:15,420 --> 02:31:17,640
John C Dvorak: Christmas is
gonna have a Thanksgiving Day

2615
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:20,670
show which we'd work we always
work on Thanksgiving even though

2616
02:31:20,820 --> 02:31:24,540
we get no donations or any even
kudos from anyone for working on

2617
02:31:24,540 --> 02:31:27,540
a holiday like Thanksgiving.
I'll be working on working on

2618
02:31:27,540 --> 02:31:32,610
Christmas Eve. We will be
working on Thanksgiving. And New

2619
02:31:32,610 --> 02:31:35,760
Year's we're going to post that
Thanksgiving piece of art

2620
02:31:35,790 --> 02:31:39,540
Adam Curry: now. Yes. Yes.
Because we're we're Trad

2621
02:31:39,540 --> 02:31:41,550
podcast, trod Trad casters.

2622
02:31:43,410 --> 02:31:45,090
John C Dvorak: Now the other
ones I liked. And here I liked a

2623
02:31:45,090 --> 02:31:46,590
little kid in the cockpit.

2624
02:31:46,650 --> 02:31:48,690
Adam Curry: Yeah, I didn't.
Yeah, I know you'd liked it. But

2625
02:31:48,690 --> 02:31:50,700
it wasn't all that great. I just

2626
02:31:50,700 --> 02:31:52,710
John C Dvorak: thought it was
cute, stupid Council like the

2627
02:31:52,710 --> 02:31:57,720
kissing the capitalist agenda.
gaslit hearts. The two people

2628
02:31:57,720 --> 02:32:02,640
with gas masks on trying to
kiss. I have nothing to do with

2629
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:05,340
the show. No, whatsoever.

2630
02:32:05,370 --> 02:32:06,480
Adam Curry: I did. It was good,
though.

2631
02:32:06,690 --> 02:32:08,250
John C Dvorak: And I thought
that was but I thought it was

2632
02:32:08,250 --> 02:32:12,960
cute. Anything else on your
people

2633
02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:15,420
Adam Curry: tried to do not
graphs I didn't I didn't work.

2634
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:16,470
That really worked.

2635
02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:18,660
John C Dvorak: He has a net
thing. It was a net graph. Who

2636
02:32:18,660 --> 02:32:19,200
cares?

2637
02:32:20,340 --> 02:32:22,800
Adam Curry: Anyway, thank you
very much to correct the record.

2638
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:25,140
We appreciate it. Good to see
you back on the on the board. I

2639
02:32:25,140 --> 02:32:27,750
mean, you're on the board. Isn't
he? Number one. Is he one of the

2640
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:28,620
number No, necessarily.

2641
02:32:29,130 --> 02:32:33,000
John C Dvorak: No one may work
his way ahead of everybody. And

2642
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:33,150
I'm

2643
02:32:33,150 --> 02:32:34,860
Adam Curry: just looking
already, we've got a lot of

2644
02:32:34,860 --> 02:32:39,720
submissions, although possibly
not anything we'll use yet. So

2645
02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:42,570
there's plenty of opportunity
for you artists to get in on

2646
02:32:42,570 --> 02:32:46,230
this great opportunity to chip
in with your art at no agenda,

2647
02:32:46,230 --> 02:32:49,200
art generator.com. You can
always just follow along. If

2648
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:51,030
you're listening to the show
right now take a look at what

2649
02:32:51,030 --> 02:32:56,700
we're talking about. Or my buddy
Dred Scott, he uses many of

2650
02:32:56,700 --> 02:33:00,870
these pieces as Chapter artwork
in a modern podcast app, which

2651
02:33:00,870 --> 02:33:03,480
let's face it, you should be
using because they also update

2652
02:33:03,600 --> 02:33:07,770
within 90 seconds of us posting
the show. If you don't use a

2653
02:33:07,770 --> 02:33:11,910
modern podcast app, you can be
waiting 90 minutes. And that

2654
02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:16,260
includes overcast and Pocket
Casts and Apple more

2655
02:33:16,260 --> 02:33:18,150
John C Dvorak: than 90 minutes
some instant so

2656
02:33:18,150 --> 02:33:20,130
Adam Curry: yeah, and people are
like, Hey, man, you didn't

2657
02:33:20,190 --> 02:33:24,390
upload to Apple. No, it's not
how it works. It's not how it

2658
02:33:24,390 --> 02:33:28,530
works. There's no uploading to
Apple. We upload and all the

2659
02:33:28,530 --> 02:33:31,770
apps get it but we use pod ping
a very sophisticated system

2660
02:33:32,040 --> 02:33:35,550
developed by the geniuses at
podcasting. 2.0 So get them on a

2661
02:33:35,550 --> 02:33:38,340
podcast. Now let us thank the
people who sent us some

2662
02:33:38,340 --> 02:33:43,110
treasure. It's it's going to be
a busy donation segment. Not not

2663
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:48,930
super amount of donations, I
think what is it? Maybe 15? I

2664
02:33:48,930 --> 02:33:56,280
think 16 Yeah. But we do have
some PhDs and of course people

2665
02:33:56,280 --> 02:34:00,330
come in with notes that are way
too long. And the unbelievable

2666
02:34:00,330 --> 02:34:03,810
amount of jingles they request
but we love you. And we love you

2667
02:34:03,810 --> 02:34:10,410
anonymous from Charlotte, North
Carolina with 133 3.33. Nice,

2668
02:34:10,710 --> 02:34:13,920
nice value. We appreciate that.
Thank you both for the ongoing

2669
02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:18,990
lessons in media deconstruction.
The value is real. For jingles,

2670
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:23,220
let's point out the shameful
giddiness of the warmongers who

2671
02:34:23,220 --> 02:34:28,530
disregard human life for profit
and power. All right, let me I

2672
02:34:28,530 --> 02:34:33,990
haven't pre pre selected here.
So let me get him ready. Judge

2673
02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:39,510
Jeanine bomb them. And we have a
new judge judge Jeanine for that

2674
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:45,360
gratuitous missile launches.
last second. Yes, missile

2675
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:50,070
launchers. machine gun fire.
Okay, we have machine gunfire.

2676
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:55,470
Explosions in the M five M
reporting style. Howard Dean's

2677
02:34:55,470 --> 02:35:00,900
creepy scream. Yeah, we have the
Howard Dean scream. And these

2678
02:35:00,900 --> 02:35:04,350
follows up anonymous here she
says let don't get spun up by

2679
02:35:04,350 --> 02:35:07,770
the war mongers and keep those
amygdala small people love is

2680
02:35:07,770 --> 02:35:08,130
lit. In

2681
02:35:08,130 --> 02:35:09,990
Unknown: fact, I would say bomb
bomb

2682
02:35:14,790 --> 02:35:15,960
Adam Curry: genie and again

2683
02:35:16,170 --> 02:35:18,390
Unknown: I would say Buck bomb

2684
02:35:21,540 --> 02:35:24,150
Adam Curry: All right. All
right. Let's try not to do radio

2685
02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:25,110
plays everybody.

2686
02:35:26,220 --> 02:35:30,390
John C Dvorak: Scott Lonnegan
1000 I don't know where he's

2687
02:35:30,390 --> 02:35:34,200
from doesn't say jingle seaspan
What we do eat what we do so you

2688
02:35:34,200 --> 02:35:37,350
don't have to don't be a denier.
And you see something say

2689
02:35:37,350 --> 02:35:40,350
something. Gentlemen, it's been
too long since my last donation,

2690
02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:46,920
and I may need a D douching.
You've been D deuced been

2691
02:35:46,920 --> 02:35:50,940
listening says show number one.
All right. Favorite part of this

2692
02:35:50,940 --> 02:35:55,200
show has come to be when people
were right into tell you they

2693
02:35:55,200 --> 02:36:00,330
don't agree with everything you
say. This revelation never fails

2694
02:36:00,330 --> 02:36:05,610
to stun me. Congratulations on
the anniversary boys. It also

2695
02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:09,540
makes me a Baronet. And I can't
wait to claim my protector at

2696
02:36:09,540 --> 02:36:14,040
some time next year with my next
donation. Shout out to Sir Daigo

2697
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:20,550
j and the other governorates in
our small crypto group. Thank

2698
02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:26,040
you for your courage your guard
scat to one we do don't have to

2699
02:36:28,530 --> 02:36:35,730
disease the sciences in

2700
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:46,620
Adam Curry: a nice little little
combo of us have some jingles.

2701
02:36:46,620 --> 02:36:54,330
Thank you. That was cool.
Vasanth ah, de mirage. I'm going

2702
02:36:54,330 --> 02:36:56,760
to say parts unknown but he
sounds

2703
02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:59,670
John C Dvorak: Indian, probably
Dharma Dharma

2704
02:36:59,700 --> 02:37:03,360
Adam Curry: dharma. But it's his
Dharma Raj Dharma Raj Vasanth.

2705
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:07,230
Besides Dharma Raj, my past
donation was so long ago I

2706
02:37:07,230 --> 02:37:11,310
forgot how much I left. I have
left to get a knighthood. The

2707
02:37:11,340 --> 02:37:15,240
Insta night PhD combo seems like
the best solution for this case.

2708
02:37:15,480 --> 02:37:21,420
I would like to be Doctor serve
a South darn Mirage Lord of

2709
02:37:21,450 --> 02:37:29,820
Kotlin. All I need is an F
cancer karma. Got it?

2710
02:37:29,880 --> 02:37:32,730
Unknown: You've got karma.
Patrick

2711
02:37:32,730 --> 02:37:37,500
John C Dvorak: Mick Gergen in
Ness. Copic, Pennsylvania. Hey,

2712
02:37:37,500 --> 02:37:42,000
John and Adam. A few months ago,
I requested jobs karma and I

2713
02:37:42,000 --> 02:37:46,530
like to report that it works.
This was confirmed when I rented

2714
02:37:46,530 --> 02:37:52,680
a new house and the house number
was none other than 33. Please

2715
02:37:52,680 --> 02:37:55,380
note me Sir Patrick is the
keeper of Adams. Thank you,

2716
02:37:55,410 --> 02:37:56,940
Patrick make Gergen

2717
02:37:56,970 --> 02:38:00,960
Adam Curry: nice. And we have a
second anonymous with 1000. And

2718
02:38:00,990 --> 02:38:04,530
this is an anonymous secret
Christmas gift. Well, thank you

2719
02:38:04,530 --> 02:38:07,830
very much. We appreciate that.
This is we will be put to good

2720
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:10,170
use. We appreciate it. You

2721
02:38:10,170 --> 02:38:12,540
John C Dvorak: have the next one
which is I suppose no I don't

2722
02:38:12,540 --> 02:38:14,790
lose out my spreadsheet. I can't
read it. Oh

2723
02:38:14,790 --> 02:38:20,940
Adam Curry: man. Okay, this is
from Paul a second. Joe long.

2724
02:38:20,970 --> 02:38:26,010
Joe Clemens in Anna Texas. 1000.
We'll see. These Texas would

2725
02:38:26,010 --> 02:38:29,160
keep it short. The 16 Year
Celebration promotion is great.

2726
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:31,950
The PhD certificate will look
great in my office it's better

2727
02:38:31,950 --> 02:38:35,250
than a master's degree in
science. Please note me sir Joe,

2728
02:38:35,370 --> 02:38:38,610
protector of the data packets
and all who transport them or if

2729
02:38:38,610 --> 02:38:41,070
not available, sir Joe Clements
protector of the data packets

2730
02:38:41,070 --> 02:38:43,590
and auto transport that well,
it's the same thing. You're

2731
02:38:43,590 --> 02:38:47,490
good. You're good in the past
month have risen from douchebag

2732
02:38:47,490 --> 02:38:49,950
to Associate Executive Producer
now with this episode, I'm

2733
02:38:49,950 --> 02:38:52,770
elevated to executive producer a
night of the no agenda

2734
02:38:52,770 --> 02:38:56,580
roundtable and no agenda scholar
with a PhD. These are

2735
02:38:56,580 --> 02:38:59,640
achievements that seems so out
of reach to me before but having

2736
02:38:59,640 --> 02:39:03,720
listened since episode one. The
education has been invaluable.

2737
02:39:03,720 --> 02:39:07,350
It is now great to have a
tangible representation of

2738
02:39:07,350 --> 02:39:10,590
Advanced Studies in media
deconstruction provided over the

2739
02:39:10,590 --> 02:39:14,970
years about that. The boss my
boss at my day job shared that

2740
02:39:14,970 --> 02:39:17,670
if he wants to know anything
about any conspiracy theories,

2741
02:39:17,670 --> 02:39:23,490
I'm the go to guy. I used to
call yourself a conspiracy

2742
02:39:23,490 --> 02:39:26,070
therapist that will make
everyone at the office laugh and

2743
02:39:26,070 --> 02:39:28,770
I put it on your card. Yeah, I
credit the no agenda show with

2744
02:39:28,770 --> 02:39:31,800
educating me and all sides of
each conspiracy theory and

2745
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:34,440
unlike the M five M confirmation
that many of the theories are

2746
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:37,590
actually in practice, so not a
theory anymore. At the

2747
02:39:37,590 --> 02:39:40,050
roundtable. I'd like to have
baked beans and rice along with

2748
02:39:40,050 --> 02:39:45,540
black rum to drink a chair for
jingle challenge. Oh goodness.

2749
02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:49,410
Oh my goodness. I didn't see any
of these. He's asking for a lot

2750
02:39:49,410 --> 02:39:53,400
of things here. You can only
have so much with your you can

2751
02:39:53,400 --> 02:39:57,420
have the magic number. And it's
no it was so long. I didn't see

2752
02:39:57,420 --> 02:40:02,580
it. I'll give you a rebel iser
Okay. Hey rumble iser out where

2753
02:40:02,580 --> 02:40:06,630
I'm at number station. Goodness
gracious man. I want to this is

2754
02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:13,440
too much. He wants maximum for
he was. He's four. How about

2755
02:40:13,440 --> 02:40:17,280
two? He wants a judge Jeanine.
Well, I happen to have that with

2756
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:22,080
a bomb them. And little girl.
Yay. Okay, well, I can do a

2757
02:40:22,080 --> 02:40:25,830
little girl. Yeah. All right.
And what does he say here to

2758
02:40:25,830 --> 02:40:32,040
wrap it up, he says. Here's a
plug for Natalie's Thanksgiving

2759
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:34,950
run a 5k run on Thanksgiving an
honor of our dear daughter

2760
02:40:34,950 --> 02:40:37,530
Natalie, who brighten the lives
of all she touched during her

2761
02:40:37,530 --> 02:40:40,950
short 21 years here. It is
organized by her best friends,

2762
02:40:40,980 --> 02:40:44,490
best friends and takes place we
used to live in St. Clair,

2763
02:40:44,490 --> 02:40:47,970
Michigan. It's a fundraising
event for cystic fibrosis

2764
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:52,620
research, not cyber fibrosis.
Did I say cyber fibrosis in the

2765
02:40:52,620 --> 02:40:53,160
past? No, you

2766
02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:54,300
John C Dvorak: did not know.
Okay.

2767
02:40:55,770 --> 02:40:58,170
Adam Curry: And
link@runsignup.com I'll put the

2768
02:40:58,170 --> 02:41:00,180
link in the show notes. I
appreciate all that you've done

2769
02:41:00,330 --> 02:41:03,480
provided and inspired over the
16 years it took and look

2770
02:41:03,480 --> 02:41:07,830
forward to seeing you at the
roundtable. Oh you bet okay 33

2771
02:41:08,610 --> 02:41:23,220
Unknown: Magic the magic number
in the standby 3333 33 or

2772
02:41:23,220 --> 02:41:28,290
otherwise are out. In fact I
would say bom bom bom again.

2773
02:41:30,900 --> 02:41:36,330
John C Dvorak: chancy Chauncey
Chauncey Parts Unknown. $1,000

2774
02:41:36,450 --> 02:41:39,270
take for your courage genser
chance to see that always in the

2775
02:41:39,270 --> 02:41:42,870
nether world. Oh, I offered a
formalized education as a no

2776
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:46,440
agenda scholar you provided was
just too good to pass up. I

2777
02:41:46,440 --> 02:41:49,860
believe this donation also
brings me up to Baronet status.

2778
02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:52,740
No jingles no karma. Keep up the
great work.

2779
02:41:52,980 --> 02:41:55,860
Adam Curry: Thank you and the
mayor of Cypress, the mayor of

2780
02:41:55,860 --> 02:41:58,920
Cypress Cypress, Texas 1000.
I've been listening since COVID

2781
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:02,400
on a recommendation I don't
remember who you're my only

2782
02:42:02,400 --> 02:42:08,520
don't miss show across all media
first donation. You You've been

2783
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:12,000
de Deus. I'm looking forward to
getting my diploma. Thanks the

2784
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:14,970
mayor of Cypress Texas yo he
just might be the actual mayor

2785
02:42:14,970 --> 02:42:18,150
of Cypress Texas. Wouldn't
surprise you it might be

2786
02:42:19,470 --> 02:42:27,780
John C Dvorak: Mike Dockery or
DHCR II in BC Canada 1000 ITM no

2787
02:42:27,780 --> 02:42:30,780
jingles? No karma, but you can
de douche me if it's on Adams

2788
02:42:30,780 --> 02:42:31,350
finger.

2789
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:34,950
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2790
02:42:36,780 --> 02:42:39,690
John C Dvorak: it's always on
his finger and it's stinks. I

2791
02:42:39,690 --> 02:42:43,860
will catch up along long ago.
It's long associations with both

2792
02:42:44,130 --> 02:42:51,390
as our paths have passed as our
pasts should say have passed. So

2793
02:42:51,540 --> 02:42:57,990
anyway, my new night name should
be sir. burka dim or or Qaidam

2794
02:42:58,050 --> 02:43:04,320
or Qaidam the RCA DM from BC
Mike Dhaka the last name is

2795
02:43:04,320 --> 02:43:08,910
spelled is a CRO with a D like
Mike De Carrera is not dacron

2796
02:43:08,910 --> 02:43:13,620
eau de thinking about Dacre
Dacre is Mike Dacre. I got it,

2797
02:43:13,650 --> 02:43:17,040
Mike Dacre anyway sorry, Mike
Dacre for mispronouncing your

2798
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:20,400
name, but you're up on you'll be
up on the podium in no time.

2799
02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:24,630
Adam Curry: Sir. LQT m is in
Niles, Illinois. 634. He says in

2800
02:43:24,630 --> 02:43:27,930
the morning, sir el que tem
here. This donation gets me to a

2801
02:43:27,930 --> 02:43:30,810
Baronet and a PhD immediate
didn't deconstruction. No, I

2802
02:43:30,810 --> 02:43:32,400
don't think it does. No,

2803
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:35,100
John C Dvorak: it doesn't. I
don't know how much I can make

2804
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:41,250
it clear. The meeting the degree
is $1,000 you get bonuses off

2805
02:43:41,250 --> 02:43:44,490
the you know, you can get other
things with the $1,000. But it's

2806
02:43:44,490 --> 02:43:48,450
not a cumulative thing.
Otherwise it'd be burner up to

2807
02:43:48,450 --> 02:43:54,360
our ears and diplomas. It's not
cumulative, you can have $995

2808
02:43:54,360 --> 02:43:57,540
sitting around and yet donate
five bucks and get a PhD. No,

2809
02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:00,300
it's not how it works. And this
promotion is a simple promotion

2810
02:44:00,300 --> 02:44:03,270
is very easy to understand
$1,000 or more and it ends

2811
02:44:03,270 --> 02:44:07,140
Adam Curry: on the 330/3 day of
the year, which is next week.

2812
02:44:07,170 --> 02:44:10,470
Okay. Thank you meet up
producers for making this

2813
02:44:10,470 --> 02:44:14,340
possible. Oh, from the meetup
well, you should have told us a

2814
02:44:14,340 --> 02:44:17,370
little bit about which meetup
for the for the worst memes on

2815
02:44:17,370 --> 02:44:23,370
the internet. Follow LQTM on no
agenda social wishing the

2816
02:44:23,370 --> 02:44:25,710
fattest karma to all you got it.

2817
02:44:26,820 --> 02:44:28,500
Unknown: You've got karma

2818
02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:32,340
John C Dvorak: and I will put
you on the list and he'll follow

2819
02:44:32,340 --> 02:44:35,490
you because actually add him
after the show. He continues he

2820
02:44:35,490 --> 02:44:38,850
says I don't know why it was
says I hate memes I was getting

2821
02:44:38,850 --> 02:44:42,330
on my nerves you're gonna have
to cover for me. That's what he

2822
02:44:42,330 --> 02:44:45,690
says to me. And I said, Oh, I'm
not covering for you. It's

2823
02:44:45,690 --> 02:44:47,040
obvious you hate me.

2824
02:44:47,160 --> 02:44:50,100
Adam Curry: I don't hate memes
and you can add to Brutus

2825
02:44:52,020 --> 02:44:54,840
John C Dvorak: Cindy shakes is
up and she's in Carmel, Indiana.

2826
02:44:57,780 --> 02:45:01,020
To the best podcast in the
universe. Thank you for your

2827
02:45:01,020 --> 02:45:05,040
courage and keeping me sane. See
you in Indy. Cindy SHEEX

2828
02:45:05,070 --> 02:45:06,990
Adam Curry: okay, you missed a
whole bunch there. This is the

2829
02:45:07,170 --> 02:45:12,090
the in the NA tribe raffle.
Which was a switcheroo.

2830
02:45:12,990 --> 02:45:15,900
John C Dvorak: I'm not reading
the sheet.

2831
02:45:15,930 --> 02:45:18,270
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. You're
correct. It's too tight Shin

2832
02:45:18,300 --> 02:45:23,160
Cindy sheets twice. So that was
the 367. You're right, I'm

2833
02:45:23,160 --> 02:45:27,900
wrong. And below that is the no
agenda indie tribe with a

2834
02:45:27,900 --> 02:45:34,620
switcheroo for Cindy sheiks.
Look at that. Yeah. This is the

2835
02:45:34,620 --> 02:45:37,350
raffle switcheroo thank you for
the continued wisdom and

2836
02:45:37,350 --> 02:45:39,690
unparalleled media
deconstruction shout out to Sir

2837
02:45:39,690 --> 02:45:43,350
Andrew of karma lat for hitting
me in the mouth in January 2020.

2838
02:45:43,350 --> 02:45:46,110
Without him and no agenda. I
hate to think where I'd be

2839
02:45:46,110 --> 02:45:50,550
today. Your tireless pursuit of
the truth and breakdown of the M

2840
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:53,850
five M narratives has helped so
many people wake up to the BS

2841
02:45:53,850 --> 02:45:58,170
being pumped out 24/7 When I say
thank you for keeping me sane I

2842
02:45:58,170 --> 02:46:02,580
mean it from the bottom of my
heart. With this donation I will

2843
02:46:02,580 --> 02:46:06,540
reach Dame hood and would like
to be deemed Cindy of the Tito's

2844
02:46:06,750 --> 02:46:10,440
you guys are the best. I pray
you never find an exit strategy.

2845
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:14,460
Well, it won't be making memes
that's for sure. That's

2846
02:46:14,460 --> 02:46:17,850
John C Dvorak: for sure. Isaac
Contreras in Chula Vista

2847
02:46:17,850 --> 02:46:24,480
California greetings bows in
reverence no need to bow this

2848
02:46:24,480 --> 02:46:29,550
donation makes me a knight and
earns me a PhD again no you

2849
02:46:29,550 --> 02:46:34,500
don't do 60 is not night is not
the PhD level it's $1,000

2850
02:46:34,500 --> 02:46:38,520
period. I like to be known as
cert doctor why you can be known

2851
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:41,400
as this anyway sir doctor. I
have the beautiful view and I

2852
02:46:41,400 --> 02:46:47,010
like Philippe B's cheese pizza
and some beer. But he's specific

2853
02:46:47,010 --> 02:46:52,440
Bear NO, make it some Texas
beer. Much love and respect to

2854
02:46:52,440 --> 02:46:54,660
you both and Hari Krishna.

2855
02:46:55,350 --> 02:46:59,940
Adam Curry: Hari Krishna to you.
Then we have Sorry Sorry, Sir

2856
02:46:59,940 --> 02:47:04,410
Jeff of the five seasons from
Weed California. Associate

2857
02:47:04,410 --> 02:47:07,560
Executive Producer with a row of
ducks. Two two 2.2 to switch a

2858
02:47:07,560 --> 02:47:12,420
roo birthday donation for Peter
Karnowski. To go on and do this

2859
02:47:12,420 --> 02:47:16,230
right now. Peter Karnowski
switcheroo has been entered to

2860
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:18,990
go towards your knighthood from
Sir Jeff for the five seasons

2861
02:47:18,990 --> 02:47:21,420
and is deemed to be what a
beautiful birthday gift How

2862
02:47:21,420 --> 02:47:22,740
nice. It

2863
02:47:22,740 --> 02:47:27,180
John C Dvorak: is nice. Suni
rose to 1230 and she's in

2864
02:47:27,180 --> 02:47:31,590
Maricopa of all places Arizona
controversial little area

2865
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:36,540
controversial future dames sunny
sign that SUNY but Sunny. I

2866
02:47:36,540 --> 02:47:40,890
should know how to pronounce it
is sunny. Says says so here.

2867
02:47:40,890 --> 02:47:44,520
Just wanted to let you know not
only have you built many awesome

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02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:47,790
social communities, you have
also brought together an

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02:47:47,790 --> 02:47:54,060
amazing, amazing, amazing,
amazing business consulting team

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02:47:54,060 --> 02:47:58,860
consultant team. Really
brilliant. Get this together for

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02:47:58,860 --> 02:48:03,480
any producer interested in
increasing the company's bottom

2872
02:48:03,480 --> 02:48:08,880
line, boosting employee morale
and ready to rent her red tent

2873
02:48:08,880 --> 02:48:12,660
retention. For some reason I
can't read this note with

2874
02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:16,470
benefits. Oh, retention with
benefits. Well, that sounds like

2875
02:48:16,470 --> 02:48:20,940
something like a more affordable
healthcare package or a flexible

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02:48:20,940 --> 02:48:28,860
Pay option. Visit www. Otter and
mutual otter and mutual.com and

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we'll connect you to the right
expert. Slip in a little little

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02:48:34,050 --> 02:48:35,700
plug plug guru in there.

2879
02:48:37,020 --> 02:48:39,300
Adam Curry: I'm going to skip
the next one and do the last

2880
02:48:39,300 --> 02:48:43,530
one. Was that a note that we had
from no that's not the note that

2881
02:48:43,530 --> 02:48:44,640
we had. No

2882
02:48:44,640 --> 02:48:47,430
John C Dvorak: he got no note. I
just read the next one. Okay,

2883
02:48:47,460 --> 02:48:51,630
Linda Lowe. patcon Lakewood,
Colorado Yes, yeah, so now he

2884
02:48:51,630 --> 02:48:56,190
gets sunny rose and Linda patcon
competing for attention jobs

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02:48:56,190 --> 02:48:59,130
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little loop patcon on the
producer list promo code Bong,

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Gino and that's good. Now,

2890
02:49:13,890 --> 02:49:14,550
Adam Curry: can I do?

2891
02:49:15,570 --> 02:49:17,670
John C Dvorak: Nothing some
people have written me asking me

2892
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:20,280
is this is this woman for real?
I said Is she any good? And I

2893
02:49:20,280 --> 02:49:24,030
say I don't know. I don't know.
Check her out. I find out like I

2894
02:49:24,030 --> 02:49:27,120
don't know I haven't looked for
jobs or anything. So I like

2895
02:49:27,120 --> 02:49:29,520
promos. Great might be the best
promo

2896
02:49:29,520 --> 02:49:38,250
Adam Curry: code bonci No. Job
jobs. Thank you. Thank you,

2897
02:49:38,250 --> 02:49:42,240
Daniel King, our final Associate
Executive producer from Santa

2898
02:49:42,240 --> 02:49:45,150
Rosa, California. $200. No note
that gives you a double of

2899
02:49:45,150 --> 02:49:46,890
karma. Thank you very much. We
appreciate it.

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02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:47,730
Unknown: You Scott.

2901
02:49:52,500 --> 02:49:54,570
Adam Curry: I'm looking and
we're at John Doe is going to

2902
02:49:54,570 --> 02:49:57,630
take us through to the 50s and
of course we appreciate our

2903
02:49:57,630 --> 02:50:00,000
executive and Associate
Executive producers because the

2904
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,610
These are credits that are Real
you can use them anywhere

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02:50:02,610 --> 02:50:06,810
credits are accepted and
recognized. We suggest imdb.com

2906
02:50:06,810 --> 02:50:09,480
where all the heavyweights are.
Go ahead. Let's search amongst

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02:50:09,480 --> 02:50:13,470
the 900 or so almost 1000
Executive Associate Executive

2908
02:50:13,470 --> 02:50:16,320
producers. That's where
Hollywood lists their credits.

2909
02:50:16,980 --> 02:50:21,720
Also, your LinkedIn profile your
resume, but I see here business

2910
02:50:21,720 --> 02:50:25,200
cards business cards. Yes. I see
Forrest Tucker coming in with

2911
02:50:25,200 --> 02:50:29,790
two donation. He gets bumped up
to their producer. I think he

2912
02:50:29,790 --> 02:50:31,770
does you want to read his note
there? Yeah,

2913
02:50:31,770 --> 02:50:36,210
John C Dvorak: Missouri
disability came in at $172.30

2914
02:50:36,210 --> 02:50:43,650
and $160.70, which rounds out to
340. So and 10 cents or

2915
02:50:43,650 --> 02:50:48,030
something, working to pay back
some of the value I've received

2916
02:50:48,030 --> 02:50:53,340
from the show over the years to
he says to Jamestown donations

2917
02:50:53,340 --> 02:50:59,760
in Honor show 1607 Who's got
172 30 and one six is 1607.

2918
02:50:59,760 --> 02:51:05,610
Okay, and the town's 400 and
16th year, plus 11. Six equals

2919
02:51:05,610 --> 02:51:12,120
3331. Okay, he's one of the he's
a numerologist. I think, Wow. He

2920
02:51:12,120 --> 02:51:17,280
wants to Reverend Allen and
climate gate. And eventually he

2921
02:51:17,280 --> 02:51:20,130
wants us to play that knee more
climate clip that's too long to

2922
02:51:20,130 --> 02:51:23,880
play right now. But we will play
it again shortly. I have some

2923
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:27,270
claim but not today's show. But
keep an eye out because I got to

2924
02:51:27,300 --> 02:51:33,300
some terrific stuff from the 80s
that backs up the DSD global

2925
02:51:33,300 --> 02:51:34,650
cooling nonsense. And

2926
02:51:34,650 --> 02:51:45,210
Adam Curry: he says Dr. Spock
was right. ESP ICT to the to the

2927
02:51:45,210 --> 02:51:45,870
to the climate.

2928
02:51:51,870 --> 02:51:53,880
Yes, we've been at this game for
a long

2929
02:51:53,880 --> 02:51:56,970
John C Dvorak: time. And it was
Mr. Spock, for your information.

2930
02:51:56,970 --> 02:51:57,570
That's correct.

2931
02:51:57,570 --> 02:52:02,130
Adam Curry: It was Dr. McCoy and
Mr. Spock. This is that's a good

2932
02:52:02,130 --> 02:52:03,750
point. John. You make a good
point. Lydia

2933
02:52:03,750 --> 02:52:08,100
John C Dvorak: Terry McNally in
Rochester New Hampshire. 158 Jim

2934
02:52:08,100 --> 02:52:13,710
Carlson in Denver, Colorado 135.
And he does have a long note.

2935
02:52:13,710 --> 02:52:15,420
You might want to see if there's
anything in there. We need to

2936
02:52:15,420 --> 02:52:23,700
read Lucas Williams in Roswell.
I are buddies in Roswell, New

2937
02:52:23,700 --> 02:52:27,630
Mexico $100. Would I've been
using that card that he's I

2938
02:52:27,630 --> 02:52:30,840
think he's the one who sent it
works like a charm to get a

2939
02:52:30,840 --> 02:52:35,970
laugh. William McLaughlin and
Dayton Ohio 100. Read a

2940
02:52:35,970 --> 02:52:40,650
Harrington and sparks Nevada 100
to Kevin McLaughlin. Here he is.

2941
02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:45,900
808 Boob donation is the
Archduke Aluna lover of American

2942
02:52:45,900 --> 02:52:52,620
boobs. Jason Allison 806 and
even boob donation is also in

2943
02:52:52,620 --> 02:52:56,520
Concord, North Carolina with
Kevin and then Kevin's back at

2944
02:52:56,520 --> 02:53:01,980
606 small boobs and New
Hampshire meet up in Epping, New

2945
02:53:01,980 --> 02:53:07,200
Hampshire 60 Now, I also got a
couple of bottles of water with

2946
02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:12,330
the $60 now I hope it was 60
because it was loose 20s in a

2947
02:53:12,330 --> 02:53:16,800
box thrown in carelessly and
that box had spaces where the

2948
02:53:16,800 --> 02:53:21,960
money could assign no oh no. The
money $1,000 in there for all I

2949
02:53:21,960 --> 02:53:26,160
know. No. It was very poorly
done. It could have put it in an

2950
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:28,320
envelope. There's a lot of
things that could have and then

2951
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:32,880
taped it to the inside. So that
was I consider that to be

2952
02:53:32,880 --> 02:53:39,300
careless. rester Christopher
Dexter 5678 A Richard Futter in

2953
02:53:39,300 --> 02:53:45,030
London UK 5510 James Edmondson
in South Plainfield, New Jersey,

2954
02:53:45,030 --> 02:53:53,700
5510 Anonymous cop in Redwood
City, California 5150 Lisa

2955
02:53:53,730 --> 02:54:00,690
Mycoskie in Sarasota, Florida.
5050 And it was a birthday call

2956
02:54:00,690 --> 02:54:05,940
her birthday her 50th birthday
today at 5050 and today at Tom

2957
02:54:05,940 --> 02:54:12,360
woods. Tom was listening. Yes.
Tom Woods donation. barons are

2958
02:54:12,360 --> 02:54:16,050
economic hitman in Tomball,
Texas 5001 of the following

2959
02:54:16,050 --> 02:54:19,980
people or $50 donors. There's a
good group today name and

2960
02:54:19,980 --> 02:54:24,660
location starting with Jared ja
in Nashville, Tennessee Brandon

2961
02:54:24,660 --> 02:54:29,730
some wine port orchard
Washington. Real deals now. In

2962
02:54:29,730 --> 02:54:33,120
San Antonio, Texas, Patricia
Dame Patricia Worthington in

2963
02:54:33,120 --> 02:54:37,080
Miami, Florida Christian Freeman
in San Marcos, Texas. Kevin

2964
02:54:37,080 --> 02:54:43,320
Dell's in Huntersville, North
Carolina Diane tshwane back in

2965
02:54:43,530 --> 02:54:49,170
johnsburg, Illinois is the
landscapes in North Stonington

2966
02:54:49,170 --> 02:54:54,960
Connecticut, Michael perote or
parrot parrot perhaps in Salem,

2967
02:54:54,960 --> 02:55:00,000
Oregon. Philip Balu in
Louisville, Kentucky, Kelly may

2968
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,570
Good deal in Mission Hills
Kansas. Michael Thompson in new

2969
02:55:03,570 --> 02:55:09,450
Browns fells Texas. Chris
Lewinsky sir Christians Sherwood

2970
02:55:09,450 --> 02:55:14,550
Park, Alberta, Sam dank with a
birthday in Lincoln, Nebraska.

2971
02:55:14,730 --> 02:55:18,090
Adam Curry: This is his son
Joseph 13th. Birthday. Yeah.

2972
02:55:19,560 --> 02:55:23,550
John C Dvorak: Steve Steeler
Grom all in steubenville ohio.

2973
02:55:25,260 --> 02:55:29,730
We got my Ohio stupid they did a
special on stupid Ville on the

2974
02:55:30,270 --> 02:55:34,620
on PBS. It was quite
interesting. Except for one part

2975
02:55:34,620 --> 02:55:37,380
I didn't get the clip of the guy
could do it back to find it I

2976
02:55:37,380 --> 02:55:42,000
just gave up. They're doing this
clip as Judy's visiting stuben

2977
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:44,580
Ville and they got all these
poor people in Steubenville.

2978
02:55:44,580 --> 02:55:48,060
They can't get work in the steel
mills closing down. And they

2979
02:55:48,090 --> 02:55:51,210
moan and groan and then they
say, well, let's go have a beer.

2980
02:55:51,750 --> 02:55:55,470
So, Judy goes has a beer says
what are you having? I've never

2981
02:55:55,470 --> 02:55:58,950
seen this on this PBS NewsHour.
What are you having? I'm having

2982
02:55:58,950 --> 02:56:02,820
a Bud Light. No. Okay, I'll have
a Bud Light to

2983
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:07,110
Adam Curry: wow. Wow, that's
crazy. And

2984
02:56:07,110 --> 02:56:09,030
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
how much they got paid to do

2985
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:12,600
that. As I know Anheuser Busch
is on the brand page about

2986
02:56:13,140 --> 02:56:14,640
reversing their fortunes.

2987
02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:16,710
Adam Curry: He says he needs to
deduce.

2988
02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:20,340
Unknown: You've been de deuced.

2989
02:56:22,140 --> 02:56:25,710
John C Dvorak: His name is
Stiegler and like that. We wrap

2990
02:56:25,710 --> 02:56:29,760
it up with Dame TJ and Clayton,
North Carolina with a birthday

2991
02:56:29,760 --> 02:56:34,260
shout out for Vince Miller.
Tracy Sullivan and Serge Johnny

2992
02:56:34,260 --> 02:56:37,770
bananas in Tinley Park,
Illinois, 50 bucks, that's the

2993
02:56:37,770 --> 02:56:43,500
end of it. And people made shows
1608 a reality and when thank

2994
02:56:43,530 --> 02:56:45,600
each and every one of them for
their help. And we

2995
02:56:45,600 --> 02:56:48,270
Adam Curry: thank everyone who
came in with lesser amounts, you

2996
02:56:48,270 --> 02:56:51,750
are just as appreciated value
for value. It's whatever you can

2997
02:56:52,230 --> 02:56:55,740
put up for value. It's it's as
long as it's equal to what you

2998
02:56:55,740 --> 02:56:59,190
think you got out of it. That is
all we asked for. And of course,

2999
02:56:59,190 --> 02:57:01,800
we don't mention anything under
$50 Certainly for reasons of

3000
02:57:01,800 --> 02:57:04,440
anonymity, but you may be on one
of our sustaining donations,

3001
02:57:04,440 --> 02:57:08,430
please consider doing one of
those keeping one up for the

3002
02:57:08,430 --> 02:57:10,830
slower months which are about to
come after Christmas, everything

3003
02:57:10,830 --> 02:57:14,850
crashes. So we're making up for
lost time here and we appreciate

3004
02:57:14,850 --> 02:57:21,030
your help go to no agenda
donations.com or.org/n A n and

3005
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:23,460
thank you to our executive and
Associate Executive producers

3006
02:57:23,460 --> 02:57:25,590
for episode 1608. Our

3007
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:30,000
Unknown: formula is this we go
out for yet people in the mouth

3008
02:57:40,590 --> 02:57:46,980
Adam Curry: shut us and we do
have two we have one mate good

3009
02:57:46,980 --> 02:57:54,090
from a very long mate good Bruce
Hashem from Merle. Hope you'll

3010
02:57:54,090 --> 02:57:56,670
accept this donation of $200 a
small sign of my appreciation

3011
02:57:56,670 --> 02:57:59,460
for the hard work that you have
you do week in week out. All

3012
02:57:59,460 --> 02:58:02,430
truth is God's truth. I've heard
it said and those who dedicate

3013
02:58:02,430 --> 02:58:04,500
themselves to the work of
finding and speaking the truth

3014
02:58:04,500 --> 02:58:07,290
of God's work wherever they know
it or not, whether they know it

3015
02:58:07,290 --> 02:58:10,800
or like it or not. And he wishes
to address all of his fellow

3016
02:58:10,800 --> 02:58:15,690
Christians Messianics and all
flavors in between a very, very

3017
02:58:15,690 --> 02:58:18,660
good fortune. Yes. And then he
has all bunch of Scripture that

3018
02:58:18,660 --> 02:58:24,780
we're not going to read. We have
a dame note from Troy funderburk

3019
02:58:25,650 --> 02:58:29,160
this must be someone thing he's
giving away says JCD I recently

3020
02:58:29,160 --> 02:58:31,170
realized I've achieved the
minimum donation for my

3021
02:58:31,170 --> 02:58:34,500
knighthood so happens my wife
just birth our first human

3022
02:58:34,500 --> 02:58:38,220
resource. She's a birthing
person. Now after seeing this

3023
02:58:38,220 --> 02:58:41,580
absolute specimen, it had become
clear to me that my wife Mabel

3024
02:58:41,580 --> 02:58:44,820
Jean, should be received her
Dame hood in lieu of might

3025
02:58:44,820 --> 02:58:47,520
knighthood. Yes, I agree with
you, brother. Once you've seen

3026
02:58:47,520 --> 02:58:51,510
that, then you know, you know
that she deserves it. So it is

3027
02:58:51,510 --> 02:58:56,160
written day mama thunder of the
Bitterroot Valley. We started

3028
02:58:56,160 --> 02:58:58,680
listening in 2020 and the show
is and will never be an integral

3029
02:58:58,680 --> 02:59:02,280
part of our road trips no matter
how much I pause it, and couples

3030
02:59:02,280 --> 02:59:04,860
that no agenda together. Stay
together. Thank you Adam and

3031
02:59:04,860 --> 02:59:07,620
John and thank you very much.
Congratulations on the brand new

3032
02:59:07,620 --> 02:59:08,580
human resource

3033
02:59:16,020 --> 02:59:19,320
we do have quite a list here
today. Harney wishes his wife

3034
02:59:19,320 --> 02:59:24,180
Christina Happy birthday she
turned 77. Today, Lisa Macao

3035
02:59:24,450 --> 02:59:30,240
turns 50 Yeah, yes. Today as
well. Holy crap. Sam danke

3036
02:59:30,240 --> 02:59:34,710
wishes his son Joseph a happy
birthday. He turns 13 Today Jen

3037
02:59:34,950 --> 02:59:38,520
says Happy Birthday to Hillary
loving it'll be on the 21st or

3038
02:59:38,520 --> 02:59:40,980
Jeff for the five seasons is
Happy Birthday to Pizza

3039
02:59:40,980 --> 02:59:45,120
Karofsky. And to Dame TJ of the
side I have otter and mule

3040
02:59:45,120 --> 02:59:49,800
wishes Vincent happy one. And
Lisa Lydia Terry Donnelly

3041
02:59:49,800 --> 02:59:53,220
celebrates today. We say happy
birthday to everybody here on

3042
02:59:53,220 --> 02:59:56,220
behalf of no agenda and the best
podcast the university and our

3043
02:59:56,220 --> 03:00:01,980
staff and management all of them
here together. Clap up Oh, there

3044
03:00:01,980 --> 03:00:05,610
we go. Keep it moving people

3045
03:00:08,670 --> 03:00:10,020
Unknown: don't want to be
induced

3046
03:00:10,890 --> 03:00:15,210
Adam Curry: and we have several
changes going to let me see

3047
03:00:15,210 --> 03:00:19,170
Scott Lonergan, he becomes a
Baronet today sir Chauncey of

3048
03:00:19,170 --> 03:00:23,160
the nether world, also Baronet
status and ser el que tem thanks

3049
03:00:23,160 --> 03:00:26,220
to the media becomes a Baronet.
Congratulations from everybody

3050
03:00:26,220 --> 03:00:28,860
and thank you for your
additional support of the best

3051
03:00:28,860 --> 03:00:33,180
podcast in the universe. Now for
our PhD graduates. I request on

3052
03:00:33,180 --> 03:00:38,400
the stage anonymous there Scott
Loana. Lonergan, Vasanth Dharma

3053
03:00:38,400 --> 03:00:42,480
Raj Patrick McGugan, another
anonymous Joe Clemens sir

3054
03:00:42,480 --> 03:00:47,400
Chauncey, sir the mayor of
Cyprus and Mike dager welcome

3055
03:00:47,430 --> 03:00:52,590
new no agenda. MD PhDs and the
society of learned persons the

3056
03:00:52,590 --> 03:00:55,980
path to this big academic honor
for some of us been a long if

3057
03:00:55,980 --> 03:00:59,250
not costly one. Some of the
price has been paid to your hard

3058
03:00:59,250 --> 03:01:02,160
earned wisdom and so in other
ways today though, is not an end

3059
03:01:02,160 --> 03:01:05,610
it is only a beginning. From
this point forward go forth and

3060
03:01:05,610 --> 03:01:09,450
spread the no agenda words are
and why we will not be silenced

3061
03:01:09,450 --> 03:01:13,530
will not be deterred. The truth
is out there. Now go and find it

3062
03:01:15,780 --> 03:01:21,840
sexier every single time that
thanks. Thank you. Thank you for

3063
03:01:21,840 --> 03:01:24,510
your support. We have a couple
of names and a couple and

3064
03:01:24,510 --> 03:01:27,540
actually quite a list of nice so
grab that blade grab

3065
03:01:27,990 --> 03:01:31,260
John C Dvorak: a big one that's
a big L specially especially so

3066
03:01:31,260 --> 03:01:31,920
there we go.

3067
03:01:33,180 --> 03:01:37,620
Adam Curry: Now we need Cindy
sheets Mabel Jean Bassam dar,

3068
03:01:37,650 --> 03:01:42,240
dar Mirage, Patrick McGugan, Joe
Clemens, Mike Dacre and Isaac

3069
03:01:42,240 --> 03:01:46,350
Contreras. All of you have
achieved status of Niner dame of

3070
03:01:46,350 --> 03:01:49,140
the best podcast in the universe
I'm very proud to pronounce the

3071
03:01:49,140 --> 03:01:53,310
cape the as Dame Cindy of the
Tito's de mama thunder of the

3072
03:01:53,310 --> 03:01:58,710
Bitterroot Valley. Dr. Serba
sons Mirage Lord of Kotlin Sir

3073
03:01:58,710 --> 03:02:02,070
Patrick the keeper of Adam's sir
Joe protector of the data

3074
03:02:02,070 --> 03:02:05,940
packets and all who transport
them sir earth that Ercan from

3075
03:02:05,940 --> 03:02:09,870
BC sir Doctor, I have the
beautiful view and for you

3076
03:02:09,870 --> 03:02:13,770
hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay along with your big

3077
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beans and rice along with black
rum Filippis cheese pizza and

3078
03:02:17,040 --> 03:02:20,850
some beer and of course price
here is your it's like you ask

3079
03:02:20,850 --> 03:02:23,520
her all these things and all you
want is the mutton meat Okay, go

3080
03:02:23,520 --> 03:02:26,310
ahead eat the mountain a medium
was asked for all these things.

3081
03:02:26,340 --> 03:02:29,700
It just goes to waste. While
you're munching on the mountain

3082
03:02:29,700 --> 03:02:33,240
in Mead, please go to no agenda
rings.com If you have a PhD

3083
03:02:33,240 --> 03:02:37,560
you'll also find your PhD there
you can send us the address the

3084
03:02:37,560 --> 03:02:41,310
name we recommend using your
real name not something phony

3085
03:02:41,310 --> 03:02:45,960
like Nikki Haley. You know, you
knock around Diem whatever her

3086
03:02:45,960 --> 03:02:50,580
name is us the real one Nikki no
fooling around and also give us

3087
03:02:50,580 --> 03:02:54,510
your ring size if you're up for
a night or Dame ring and along

3088
03:02:54,510 --> 03:02:58,080
with that comes the wax who seal
your important correspondence

3089
03:02:58,080 --> 03:03:00,270
with and of course the
certificate of authenticity.

3090
03:03:00,270 --> 03:03:03,990
Welcome to the roundtable you
brand new Knights and Dames know

3091
03:03:03,990 --> 03:03:04,290
what

3092
03:03:10,860 --> 03:03:14,010
yeah, baby. We got lots of
meetups to talk about and lots

3093
03:03:14,010 --> 03:03:17,850
of meetup reports kicking it off
with the Indianapolis indie

3094
03:03:18,900 --> 03:03:19,350
group.

3095
03:03:19,380 --> 03:03:21,090
Unknown: This is Mark This is
lonely. Yeah.

3096
03:03:21,120 --> 03:03:24,630
Brittany Shavers Zionsville.
Indiana Bryan's bill. Okay sir

3097
03:03:24,630 --> 03:03:28,380
Benny in the morning Dame Swanee
Emily the Fed down fed Bruce

3098
03:03:28,380 --> 03:03:31,650
blessing file from Zionsville
just scary. Cindy from Carmel.

3099
03:03:31,710 --> 03:03:35,160
So Craig is the Darkmoon Amy
from Westfield judge Nick here.

3100
03:03:35,190 --> 03:03:40,860
John Jones, not an alias Luciana
stones Macy stone, Susanna stone

3101
03:03:40,860 --> 03:03:43,890
fragance stone kitchen stone
Riley stone daughter from

3102
03:03:43,890 --> 03:03:44,640
Indianapolis,

3103
03:03:44,640 --> 03:03:46,830
Chloe. Alicia in the morning
from

3104
03:03:46,830 --> 03:03:49,800
Arcadia mica polymath at my
favorite bar with my favorite

3105
03:03:49,800 --> 03:03:52,800
people there is the torah
following on finger number one

3106
03:03:52,830 --> 03:03:54,780
or PVR street gang game
community

3107
03:03:58,440 --> 03:04:00,720
Adam Curry: that's right, the
keeper and I will be there

3108
03:04:00,750 --> 03:04:03,720
December 4 Looking forward to it
here is Fredericksburg,

3109
03:04:03,720 --> 03:04:08,040
Virginia. This was Tom and Alex
and man they put together a

3110
03:04:08,040 --> 03:04:09,960
great group hello

3111
03:04:09,960 --> 03:04:12,450
Unknown: its friends giving in
Fredericksburg and we're here

3112
03:04:12,450 --> 03:04:15,360
with melodious sounds the
bartender

3113
03:04:15,390 --> 03:04:18,150
we're here in Fredericksburg,
Virginia where we don't need a

3114
03:04:18,150 --> 03:04:19,590
doctrine. crisper

3115
03:04:19,590 --> 03:04:20,520
from King George.

3116
03:04:20,700 --> 03:04:24,150
This is Roseland part of blonde
squad plus Trisha in the morning

3117
03:04:24,210 --> 03:04:26,700
in the morning this is Dame
trail chicken living on the

3118
03:04:26,700 --> 03:04:30,180
offensive and life is a scam.
This is Rob from Richmond in the

3119
03:04:30,180 --> 03:04:33,450
morning. This is Stephanie from
Chesterfield in the morning,

3120
03:04:33,480 --> 03:04:36,270
this JC from cole pepper but
most people call me douchebag

3121
03:04:36,270 --> 03:04:41,010
asylum, Afghan boys ITM. This is
Dana the triangle ITM. This is

3122
03:04:41,010 --> 03:04:44,340
Sarah ITM. This is Kelly from
Culpepper, Virginia.

3123
03:04:44,370 --> 03:04:49,470
Oh in the morning, Dustin spooky
douchebag had a great time here.

3124
03:04:49,500 --> 03:04:51,180
A lot of good people recommended
going to one

3125
03:04:51,210 --> 03:04:53,820
in the morning. This is Matt
also a douchebag had a great

3126
03:04:53,820 --> 03:04:55,200
time. Thanks for everything guys
in

3127
03:04:55,200 --> 03:04:58,200
the morning. It's the Baron of
masa ponics here with the Best

3128
03:04:58,200 --> 03:05:01,650
Bartender in the world Tom
circle at Red Dragon brewery,

3129
03:05:01,680 --> 03:05:02,880
thank you for your courage.

3130
03:05:03,030 --> 03:05:06,300
Hey, Joe, where's Hunter? Does
you still have your checkbook

3131
03:05:10,320 --> 03:05:14,460
Adam Curry: man, I mean we are
we are changing the economics of

3132
03:05:14,460 --> 03:05:17,790
places. I mean that was a huge
group and I bet you they were

3133
03:05:17,790 --> 03:05:21,870
drinking. It was kind of
apparent in the Netherlands a

3134
03:05:21,870 --> 03:05:25,410
bear handle so over here like
from the meetup in back and

3135
03:05:25,410 --> 03:05:28,860
those people are a bit shy today
but we're having fun in the

3136
03:05:28,860 --> 03:05:33,150
morning escaped slave MPC throne
room here. Nice time in the

3137
03:05:33,150 --> 03:05:36,960
morning. This was a very nice
evening again, thanks for all

3138
03:05:37,110 --> 03:05:39,840
Unknown: in the morning please
tune into Cafe belts Metz.

3139
03:05:40,140 --> 03:05:43,920
Hello, this is Sarah while you
come now from the UK and I have

3140
03:05:43,950 --> 03:05:47,130
gone now My name is Stephanie
and I like it here

3141
03:05:47,340 --> 03:05:50,580
in the morning. A farmer from
the south of the Netherlands.

3142
03:05:50,610 --> 03:05:55,560
Hello Adam. He has a very nice
meeting in the morning with my

3143
03:05:55,560 --> 03:05:58,590
human research no human resource

3144
03:06:03,930 --> 03:06:09,960
video deconstruction the morning
or maybe 20 x.com 20x Two

3145
03:06:14,490 --> 03:06:17,310
Adam Curry: Oh, I love it
abusing human resources from

3146
03:06:17,310 --> 03:06:20,370
coast to coast and all over the
world. Good job. Fantastic.

3147
03:06:20,370 --> 03:06:23,580
Final Report from a Broomfield
kilo

3148
03:06:23,580 --> 03:06:27,720
Unknown: echo zero India
November X ray. Is a 10 meter

3149
03:06:27,840 --> 03:06:31,050
ready going crazy or is it just
me? That's gone crazy.

3150
03:06:31,080 --> 03:06:33,510
Do you know agenda busca Buke
Yo,

3151
03:06:33,540 --> 03:06:37,140
this is Jim from Denver in the
morning. Tea dome from Elizabeth

3152
03:06:37,350 --> 03:06:40,410
happy to be here to surprise
Colorado Carebear on her

3153
03:06:40,410 --> 03:06:41,610
birthday, Sydney so

3154
03:06:41,610 --> 03:06:44,730
if you're from Colorado,
Canberra celebrating my 50th

3155
03:06:45,270 --> 03:06:48,600
This is sir are and in the
future we will be in a warmer

3156
03:06:48,600 --> 03:06:50,640
setting for our meetups.

3157
03:06:50,730 --> 03:06:55,470
This is Jill and I am Colorado
Carebears. personal chauffeur

3158
03:06:56,430 --> 03:06:59,820
and surprise planner. This is
Josh the Simpson from Aurora,

3159
03:06:59,820 --> 03:07:03,150
Colorado in the morning.
Colorado

3160
03:07:03,150 --> 03:07:06,150
Adam Curry: meetup out. All
right, Colorado meetup. So what

3161
03:07:06,150 --> 03:07:09,750
you can tell here is that the no
agenda show is not just a

3162
03:07:09,750 --> 03:07:13,650
podcast, it's a community. It's
a big community. It's a

3163
03:07:13,650 --> 03:07:17,640
worldwide community. And these
people, I mean, I wish I could

3164
03:07:17,640 --> 03:07:20,100
show you the pictures but we're
never going to do video. They

3165
03:07:20,100 --> 03:07:23,670
are as diverse as you can
imagine. They probably might not

3166
03:07:23,670 --> 03:07:27,330
just you start talking to each
other in a Rando bar. But when

3167
03:07:27,330 --> 03:07:29,790
they get together and as they
you give each other a little in

3168
03:07:29,790 --> 03:07:32,640
the morning in the morning, in
the morning. Yeah, that's when

3169
03:07:32,670 --> 03:07:35,730
that's when friendships formed.
That's when connection takes

3170
03:07:35,730 --> 03:07:38,040
place. And as you know,
connection is protection and you

3171
03:07:38,040 --> 03:07:41,190
can witness it for yourself
today. The pre Thanksgiving

3172
03:07:41,190 --> 03:07:44,100
tailgate in Nashville,
Nashville, Tennessee, a tailgate

3173
03:07:44,100 --> 03:07:47,670
brewery, the North Georgia
monthly meet up at six today

3174
03:07:47,670 --> 03:07:51,300
cherish the brewing Alpharetta,
Georgia Charlotte's thirsty

3175
03:07:51,300 --> 03:07:54,420
Third Thursday monthly meet up
meet up seven o'clock tonight

3176
03:07:54,420 --> 03:07:57,000
edge tavern Charlotte, North
Carolina this is all today.

3177
03:07:57,270 --> 03:08:00,180
Tomorrow the central Ohio meet
up at five o'clock at Dempsey's

3178
03:08:00,180 --> 03:08:04,230
in Columbus. Also on Friday, the
New Haven nicotine addicts meet

3179
03:08:04,230 --> 03:08:07,740
up eight o'clock at the owl shop
and New Haven Connecticut. The

3180
03:08:07,740 --> 03:08:11,640
Fort Wayne this is for Saturday,
the Fort Wayne Bluffton Auburn.

3181
03:08:12,060 --> 03:08:17,490
Bosco red club 33 meetup Xenos
Italian eatery, Fort Wayne,

3182
03:08:17,490 --> 03:08:21,390
Indiana in the morning Richmond
one o'clock on Saturday, the

3183
03:08:21,390 --> 03:08:25,260
center of universe Brewing
Company Ashland, Virginia, and

3184
03:08:25,260 --> 03:08:28,920
of course the big extravaganza
the no agenda local 512 Kicking

3185
03:08:28,920 --> 03:08:32,580
off one o'clock at duck's back
yard Austin Sunset Valley Texas,

3186
03:08:32,790 --> 03:08:35,880
Mr. Barron Scott of The no
agenda armory organizing and I

3187
03:08:35,880 --> 03:08:39,390
will be there along with the
keeper. Also on Saturday snack

3188
03:08:39,390 --> 03:08:43,350
at chat. World War Three refuge
can't meet up in Oklahoma at

3189
03:08:43,350 --> 03:08:47,430
chicken and pickle Oklahoma City
and the sunset till you drop it

3190
03:08:47,430 --> 03:08:50,730
two o'clock in San Francisco at
the sunset reservoir Brewing

3191
03:08:50,730 --> 03:08:56,190
Company. The Red 33 Red 33
Boston Scorpio season at Boston

3192
03:08:56,220 --> 03:09:01,110
Maza two shits. Okay, certainly
Nathan Lee Miller is organizing

3193
03:09:01,110 --> 03:09:05,310
I think you have to contact for
the location. Arlington Virginia

3194
03:09:05,340 --> 03:09:08,880
getting together lion Hall at
five o'clock on Saturday. The

3195
03:09:08,880 --> 03:09:12,270
spot the spook five o'clock meet
up in dreamland barbecue

3196
03:09:12,270 --> 03:09:15,990
Huntsville, Alabama, and the
sevens northwest Houston meetup

3197
03:09:15,990 --> 03:09:19,560
kicks off at 530 at week
Wakefield crowbar in Houston,

3198
03:09:19,560 --> 03:09:22,770
Texas. That's just a few of the
meetups that are coming up

3199
03:09:22,770 --> 03:09:26,910
between now and the next show.
Go to no agenda meetups.com If

3200
03:09:26,910 --> 03:09:29,640
you can't find one near you
start one yourself it's always

3201
03:09:29,640 --> 03:09:31,440
guaranteed a party sometimes

3202
03:09:31,440 --> 03:09:40,020
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with Dyson days. You'd be

3203
03:09:40,080 --> 03:09:49,080
triggered you'd have to be buddy
feels the same. It's like

3204
03:09:52,470 --> 03:09:56,310
Adam Curry: a lot of blood of
housekeeping there but I was a

3205
03:09:56,310 --> 03:10:00,120
big one but I love it. I love
that we have I mean we You

3206
03:10:00,120 --> 03:10:04,110
haven't the producers have no
agenda have just created this.

3207
03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:08,550
This this this thing that is
it's bigger than the podcast

3208
03:10:08,550 --> 03:10:14,040
it's it's really lovely
sometimes it's just how could

3209
03:10:14,040 --> 03:10:17,160
How is it possible that this
happened it's the value for

3210
03:10:17,160 --> 03:10:20,700
value model soon to be talked
about on Bridey on with Mike

3211
03:10:20,700 --> 03:10:28,500
Adams. Tune in ISOs I have a
number of how are you on ISOs

3212
03:10:28,500 --> 03:10:29,100
today I

3213
03:10:29,100 --> 03:10:31,470
John C Dvorak: got three do my
abdomen to do my I'm gonna

3214
03:10:31,470 --> 03:10:33,840
voluntarily do mind first wow

3215
03:10:33,870 --> 03:10:36,240
Adam Curry: okay you must not
have much faith in them

3216
03:10:36,300 --> 03:10:40,170
John C Dvorak: no I got these
are dynamite okay. Okay first I

3217
03:10:40,170 --> 03:10:43,380
got to Creighton so nasty

3218
03:10:43,380 --> 03:10:48,180
Adam Curry: and personal and
brutal and unfair and mean you

3219
03:10:48,180 --> 03:10:49,170
know that's too long

3220
03:10:50,790 --> 03:10:53,880
John C Dvorak: then I have a
clip from the protests in San

3221
03:10:53,880 --> 03:10:57,720
Francisco. I saw it this is
called the yay die

3222
03:11:01,440 --> 03:11:03,450
Adam Curry: Okay, not bad not
bad.

3223
03:11:04,230 --> 03:11:06,240
John C Dvorak: I know what it
means but there it isn't I have

3224
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:10,380
Wow didn't have last I got wow
good one wow that's a good one.

3225
03:11:11,520 --> 03:11:13,890
Adam Curry: Okay, well these are
these are not all that bad. Let

3226
03:11:13,890 --> 03:11:18,450
me see what I have. I have a
similar ones like okay,

3227
03:11:19,470 --> 03:11:21,900
Unknown: I have a really nice
combination.

3228
03:11:23,370 --> 03:11:26,610
Adam Curry: I have this ministry
met like this one that is some

3229
03:11:26,610 --> 03:11:32,670
kind of crazy and this I think
is the winner. What's a load of

3230
03:11:32,670 --> 03:11:38,910
crap come on that's good. What's
a load of crap there's nothing

3231
03:11:38,910 --> 03:11:43,380
like a crap like that. Yeah,
crap crap load of crap Come on.

3232
03:11:43,380 --> 03:11:45,120
That's crap. Yeah, I

3233
03:11:45,120 --> 03:11:46,590
John C Dvorak: have to go along
with that one too is

3234
03:11:46,590 --> 03:11:50,010
Adam Curry: the winner so winner
man is just a winner. Let me see

3235
03:11:50,010 --> 03:11:54,690
where we at you if you want to
play us out with one fun clip we

3236
03:11:54,690 --> 03:11:58,800
did not receive a good news of
the of the week. Jingle from

3237
03:11:58,800 --> 03:11:59,490
anybody.

3238
03:12:00,510 --> 03:12:03,360
John C Dvorak: So no, not yet. I
actually there was one that

3239
03:12:03,420 --> 03:12:07,470
somebody suggested but it was a
song somebody else did. That was

3240
03:12:07,470 --> 03:12:13,050
illegal to use. So good rejected
it out of hand. But I do have

3241
03:12:13,050 --> 03:12:17,370
one good news clip. You guys.
I'm been assigned my assignment.

3242
03:12:17,370 --> 03:12:20,430
Yes, yes. Yes. Good news is a
pretty good one. This again

3243
03:12:20,430 --> 03:12:24,840
comes from Colorado. Colorado
Springs, Colorado. The

3244
03:12:24,840 --> 03:12:26,160
Adam Curry: local channel 11.

3245
03:12:26,790 --> 03:12:30,210
John C Dvorak: Channel 11 is a
stunner. I'm looking for

3246
03:12:30,210 --> 03:12:32,370
Adam Curry: it. And I'm not sure
what I'm supposed to play here.

3247
03:12:32,400 --> 03:12:34,290
Oh, good news. Good news.
percent

3248
03:12:34,290 --> 03:12:37,650
Unknown: of women give birth on
the exact day their do. Most

3249
03:12:37,650 --> 03:12:40,320
babies arrive within a week or
so of their expected due date

3250
03:12:40,320 --> 03:12:43,530
either a little early or a
little late. A limited family is

3251
03:12:43,530 --> 03:12:46,080
pretty happy. Their little
bundle of joy decided to come a

3252
03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:49,230
week early. Because there's
something about the day Tegan

3253
03:12:49,230 --> 03:12:52,050
Webber was born that makes her
birthday a little extra special.

3254
03:12:52,530 --> 03:12:54,120
To me. Kurzman has the story. A

3255
03:12:54,120 --> 03:13:00,900
good story. Tegan gene whever is
full of surprises. She was seven

3256
03:13:00,900 --> 03:13:05,070
pounds three ounces when she was
born. Surprise number one. Her

3257
03:13:05,070 --> 03:13:09,930
mom was pretty confident Tegan
was a boy. I was so sure she's

3258
03:13:10,260 --> 03:13:15,270
super positive surprise number
two. Miss Tegan decided to make

3259
03:13:15,270 --> 03:13:19,290
her grand entrance. On a pretty
special day. She shares a

3260
03:13:19,290 --> 03:13:25,500
birthday with me and my mom.
Tegan was born on October 23.

3261
03:13:25,500 --> 03:13:29,400
Just like her mom and her mom's
mom. I

3262
03:13:29,400 --> 03:13:34,920
was very surprised. Yes,
blessed. Very blessed. I thought

3263
03:13:34,920 --> 03:13:38,850
it was a possibility. But never
in a million years. I thought

3264
03:13:39,300 --> 03:13:43,080
that would be really cool if she
would be born on my birthday.

3265
03:13:43,110 --> 03:13:48,420
And my daughter Valerie's
birthday. God blessed us. Wanda

3266
03:13:48,420 --> 03:13:52,290
and Valerie have always
celebrated their birthday

3267
03:13:52,320 --> 03:13:57,300
together. Now the party has
grown. Three generations of

3268
03:13:57,300 --> 03:13:58,770
birthday girls person

3269
03:13:58,770 --> 03:14:02,040
can't ask for anything better
now share

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this same special day. It's very
special. But no matter how many

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birthdays they celebrate,
Valerie says this birthday might

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just be her best ever. It's
gonna be hard to top this one

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near Linton. I'm Jody Kurzman
reporting for your news leader.

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Oh, how

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Adam Curry: beautiful Yes, yes,
that's just perfect. Well, you

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I'm glad you're keeping up with
your with your gig. Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: I feel mine the
guy that lightens the load?

3278
03:14:39,600 --> 03:14:44,760
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes, you do.
And have show mixes coming up.

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We have we got a nice little mix
here for we got it Isaac

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Contreras, Matty J. Ben
Thompson. With short it's short,

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but it's good. Some good stuff
is funny. Coming up next with no

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agenda string him.com Vox on the
run episode number one, maybe it

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03:15:04,200 --> 03:15:07,950
looks like it's a new show. New
Show Alert New Show alert. Oh no

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03:15:07,950 --> 03:15:13,290
agenda stream. Stay listening at
troll room.io Or your your

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03:15:13,290 --> 03:15:17,280
modern podcast that. Meanwhile,
I'm coming to you from the heart

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of the Texas Hill Country here
and FEMA Region number 650

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degrees and getting colder in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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03:15:23,550 --> 03:15:23,940
curry

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03:15:24,390 --> 03:15:26,760
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we were

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03:15:26,760 --> 03:15:30,510
promised rain for the next
couple last couple of days and

3291
03:15:30,510 --> 03:15:33,900
we got nothing. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll

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03:15:33,900 --> 03:15:36,690
Adam Curry: see you again on
Sunday. Remember us at

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03:15:36,690 --> 03:15:41,940
dvorak.org/na no agenda
donations.com until Sunday,

3294
03:15:42,300 --> 03:15:45,060
adios mofos Hui Hui, and

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03:15:47,310 --> 03:15:51,000
John C Dvorak: I told this guy
who's doing the note taking to

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put it up on a blog.

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03:15:54,030 --> 03:15:56,610
Adam Curry: Record is your
volunteer you're bound to lose

3298
03:15:56,610 --> 03:15:57,750
it if you're doing it the way

3299
03:15:59,130 --> 03:16:02,640
John C Dvorak: there's some
idiot on this train will console

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03:16:02,640 --> 03:16:03,150
out or

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Adam Curry: is it the Zephyr?

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John C Dvorak: What is the deal
with these guys?

3303
03:16:08,970 --> 03:16:10,620
Adam Curry: If you had
headphones it wouldn't be such a

3304
03:16:10,620 --> 03:16:17,670
problem. Hello, if you if you
had heard

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03:16:20,850 --> 03:16:22,200
John C Dvorak: this thing on

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Adam Curry: your the

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03:16:37,650 --> 03:16:38,340
Unknown: inequality

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Ba bum ba bum ba bum ba bum ba
bum ba bum ba bum ba bum ba bum

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03:17:22,770 --> 03:17:26,880
ba bum ba bum ba bum ba bum ba
bum bum bum bum McGahn Ba bum ba

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03:17:26,880 --> 03:17:31,200
bum ba bum ba bum ba bum ba bum
ba bum ba bum ba bum ba bum ba

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03:17:31,200 --> 03:17:35,730
bum ba bum ba bum ba ba they're
going in hard bom bom bom bom

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03:17:35,730 --> 03:17:41,280
bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom
bom bom bom bom bom bom and

3313
03:17:41,280 --> 03:17:46,320
again bom bom bom bom bom bom
bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom

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03:17:46,320 --> 03:17:49,740
bom bom bom bom bom bom But
who's gonna drop a new tear?

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MoPhO to boruch.org/in a load of
crap.