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Adam Curry: Going into the bin
baby. Adam curry, John C Devora.

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January 28 2020 for this short
award winning keyword nation

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media assassination episode 1629

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Unknown: is no agenda

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Adam Curry: taking the piano
propaganda and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where we call it

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propaganda. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: It's all propaganda.
All of it, all of it. All of it.

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All of it. Oh, my goodness.
Texas is propaganda central

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right now. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: ye. Ah, the
convoy.

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Adam Curry: Eagle. Take Back Our
borders. I really I must alert

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everyone. This is Abbott has
been activated. This is all

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politics has nothing based in
reality. And everyone's getting

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all jacked up.

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John C Dvorak: Really see the
photo of all the tractors? Yeah,

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well, I consider it a iPhoto.
Because it's like where it was.

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Where is this thing where you
have these, these tears? Like a

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hillside with tears and tears
and tears all with 1000s

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attractors, supposedly at the
Texas border.

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Adam Curry: I'm telling you, of
course, people are going to show

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up at the border. Let me run
through a couple of clips

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because this is the battlefield
is now between your ears. This

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is and you'd think oh yeah,
everyone. Yeah. We're the good

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guys. Now you're being
propagandized. We're talking

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about a two mile stretch of
border. There's people walking

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across three miles down the
road. But oh no, it's going to

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be take back our borders. Texas

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Unknown: responded Friday to
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access with demands of its own
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Demands for proof wrote Attorney
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government's authority to turn a
Texas park into a port of entry

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anytime you might spend suing
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toward enforcing the immigration
laws Congress already has on the

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books, Paxton wrote, a strong
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Border Protection officially
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encounters at the southern
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monthly number ever recorded.
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population of the city of Plano
Governor Greg Abbott said today

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he had asked the president eight
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giving him constitutional
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from an invasion. Dallas
appellate lawyer David Cole

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thinks the invasion argument has
some weaknesses. But he said

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Texas may be able to make an
argument on exactly how much

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control over immigration, the
federal government actually has

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call agreed it is very awkward
right now having military and

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law enforcement both on opposite
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border. The governor also noted
today, he believes all 25 states

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that are backing Texas in its
efforts would be willing to send

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troops to help if they're
needed. All right,

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Adam Curry: time to load them
up. Get it ready, locked and

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loaded. We're going to the
border don't go. Oh my god, I

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John C Dvorak: thought you were
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Adam Curry: was gonna go until
first of all, we have boots on

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the ground, plenty of boots on
the ground. Obviously people are

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sick of what's happening at the
border. But this is nothing more

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than a Republican Party setup
against Biden, of course. And I

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can think I can reasonably prove
this. I'm not quite sure what

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Tucker is doing. If he's really
just a willing idiot and all of

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this but he had Ken Paxton on
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John C Dvorak: isn't it the guy
that tried to impeach Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. So how's he a guy? Who
what's the deal with him? First,

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let's get a little background on
this guy. First of all, the

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Republicans in Texas tried to
get this guy out. But now he's

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like their spokesperson. Yes,

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Adam Curry: there was a battle
for him. And I don't think it

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was there all the Republicans
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faction that did not like him.
And and I have to say that the

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title a guy seems like a pretty
reasonable guy. He's doing good

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things for the state. But now
it's clear that Abbott is just

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the global shill. You have to
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seriously from a callin airport.
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basically bringing in young age
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inside of America. They're cheap
labor. And it's Republican and

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Democrat. You know, companies,
you know, it's just companies

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capitalist. Our children are too
lazy to go on work and crappy

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ass jobs. And so we need to
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walking right through TSA of
this is all the United Nations

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Office of international
migration and the faith based

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organizations that are that are
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migrant resettle immigrant
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scam, and we're all being
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short exchange between Tucker
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to do with what's going on with
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America. It's about getting
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Unknown: it's just propaganda.
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decides to quote federalize the
National Guard of Texas? Look,

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he can do that any President can
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pretty much ends his election
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that good now anyway, but this
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issue. When you come into a
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people can clearly see. We're
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from crime and terrorism and a
lot of bad consequences, I don't

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think and now these liberal
sanctuary cities know the same

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same problem. They've got just a
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they know that this is real. So
I think it's becoming more

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Americans are becoming more
aware. And I think if Joe Biden

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decides to force that onto us by
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I think it's an automatic loss.
He's done. And so you know, in

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some ways, you have to suffer
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months if he does that, which I
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the end, he loses the election.
Absolutely. If he does that. Oh,

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Adam Curry: seems like this is
only about the election, Ken

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Paxton, Tucker, please lead the
witness some more. Do

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Unknown: you think it's possible
that he will? I mean, I guess

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it's possible. No, but what?
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likelihood?

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John C Dvorak: You know, I don't
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anybody who says, you know,
first they get into the topic,

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and then they milk it. And then
just to stretch it even more, is

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a question you can't answer.
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likelihood? What's your
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next year? What is your, you
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good, good catch. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: it's leaving the
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Unknown: Do you think it's
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guess it's possible. No, but
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likelihood? 20? You know,

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I don't know. I mean, I don't
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about this much. I think it's
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behind the scenes making those
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probably better give you an
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idea what he'll do. Because I
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going to do. And I after he's
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recognize what he did. So if I
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decision, I could actually
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could I think that would be
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right now. Yeah,

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no, I don't I've never met
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conclusively who's in charge the
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not him. It's

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Adam Curry: only about who's in
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It's a lose lose for him. I
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of embarrassing. It's like, if
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the problem, talk about the
problem. And clearly the the

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busing was the setup. I'm not
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been I'm not saying that. I
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the sanctuary cities. All of
that is correct. But we are

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being played. And we're being
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last show with the take back our
border.com website which seemed

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very sketch sketch, I said it's
sketch 700,000 trucks. And so

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this is Fox Business News. They
bring on a Texas representative.

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I don't even know who this guy
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he goes too far and he shows his
hand but even the setup were

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first they show you the map.
Look at all these Republican

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states. All the governors that
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think it's political,

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Unknown: Texas now receiving
support from 25 Republican

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governors all backing Governor
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the Biden administration for the
crisis? I want to bring in Texas

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Congressman, Lieutenant Colonel
Keith self, Congressman, good

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morning. Let's talk about this
trucker convoy, you brought this

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up just a moment ago. So this is
called take our border back. It

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kicks off Monday. So you've got
multiple starts. You've got

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trucks leaving from Virginia
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through Texas, Arizona,
California. On the website, it

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describes the vent events as a
peaceful assembly, encouraging

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all freedom loving and law
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saw that you posted on AIX, to
raise awareness about that. You

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obviously just mentioned it a
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you're going to be speaking once
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see that it's gonna go through
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Ysidro, California as well.
Seven or 1000 vehicles. That's

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the prediction here. How do you
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track. That's a lot of trucks.

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people at West California to DC
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understand we're going to be
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these people are committed to a
peaceful demonstration I'll pay

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Adam Curry: attend Shouldn't
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saying all these the people who
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then he says, and we're going to
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truckers, what? Seriously now?
The Canadian truckers? They're

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going to he's he is playing on
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truckers. Yeah, we were all for
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people that went to California
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understand we're going to be
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these people are committed to a
peaceful demonstration that

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we've had enough. The American
people have had enough. were

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demanding that the Biden
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enforce the laws on the books,
and secure our border 8 million

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people during the Biden
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the population of Ohio. This is
the time for us to rise up as

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the American people can demand
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Adam Curry: All right. So he I
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I do not believe there's going
to be 700,000 trucks. They set

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that number out there. The
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everywhere. And then, of course,
the Fox Business News model. As

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the obvious question, his answer
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Unknown: I love the fact that
people are standing up and using

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their voices peacefully. But we
know that bad actors in the past

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have co opted these types of
events, and done everything they

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can to make the peace loving
Americans look bad. Are you

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concerned that there might be
some sort of CO opting of this

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con going?

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That's always probability, but
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events, what?

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Adam Curry: That may be a
possibility. But why would you

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say that may be a probability?

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John C Dvorak: That's always a
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Adam Curry: you said
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Unknown: That's always a
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Adam Curry: But you probability.
I don't like that. I don't like

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that. I don't like it.

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but you learn as you do these

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events. So know that that might
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they've got measures in place to
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And I am hopeful that that will
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be a peaceful movement of the
American people joined by other

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nations if they want to come
this is the Canadian farmers,

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trucker. This is the German
farmers. This is the French

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farmers release the Dutch
farmers. This is a movement well

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beyond the United States that
people are simply tired of the

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overreach of their federal
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John C Dvorak: Well, how many
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besides ours? How can they
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before? Recently, I don't have
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referring to like the French
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British? And they say, well, the
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Adam Curry: Federal Government's
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here. So you know, the Biden
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where we're stopping all LPG
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immediately. That's all they're
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don't think so. I think what
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keep lots of gas in America and
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inflation, lowering liquid
lowering natural gas prices, it

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doesn't seem like that was a
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messages everywhere. And then of
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John C Dvorak: should be putting
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Adam Curry: well, and that's
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John C Dvorak: just stopping
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Adam Curry: so immediately, we
get vice. I want to remind

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everybody that Vice went
bankrupt and was purchased by

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one of its major debt holders,
Soros. Soros investments, for

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$200 million. They wound up
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is their headline, protest.
convoy headed to southern border

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is calling itself an army of
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Christian nationalist rhetoric
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the standoff between Texas and
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let's look at some other VICE

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News story by test Oh, an
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succession over Texas border
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explains there aren't enough
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Republican wants schools to call
animal control on furry

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students. Come on, people get
it. That's a good one. have

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actually this is a war for your
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joy read to balance out the
coverage here something

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Unknown: called take our border
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today. And here is a polite gist
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Veterans Military elected
bikers. Yeah, we

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Adam Curry: need some bikers,
all truckers we're podcast our

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John C Dvorak: podcasters
bikers, law

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owners ranches and freedom
loving Americans. It's supposed

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to start in Virginia Beach on
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February 3 In your Eagle Pass
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Ysidro, California. They're
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peaceful convoy and active,
active activism lineup of people

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sounds a lot like the lineup of
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Adam Curry: He says, It sounds
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Unknown: A lot like the lineup
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were at January 6, right?
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peaceful. I support people's
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they don't like was having an
aborted bout means it's

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peaceful, right. But this idea
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John C Dvorak: is peaceful,
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Adam Curry: As long as peaceful
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this idea that trying to spark
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real problem. That's not That's
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you look at that map, you see a
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very few people. And that, you
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places are the places that are
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the power doesn't reside in
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because the biggest universities
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cities are not there. They feel
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know, plan to break away from
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John C Dvorak: the, yes. What
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Adam Curry: poop. He has nothing
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Unknown: Well, but you cannot,
you know, plan to break away

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from the United States. Just
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John C Dvorak: wants to break
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because they feel overwhelmed.
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Adam Curry: what this is the
propaganda. Oh, they want us to

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just slow that in. Yes. Yes.
They want us to cede

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Unknown: break away from the
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feel overwhelmed. You have to
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sparked the notion of Civil War
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was the election of Abraham
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South slaveholding South did not
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United States. They feared he
took away their money making

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human bondage industry. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: Human Bondage
industry. Okay, well, let's just

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throw a couple more on top of
it. Let's bring in the ladies

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from the view. We need to do
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Unknown: shocked a lot of people
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faith, just like Mike Pence
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faith. They have every religious
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coming for their religion, while
the devil takes their soul. They

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are not even walking in the path
of as Tim Alberta said, you can

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either take up the sword with a
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Jesus, they

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Adam Curry: they're quoting some
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
butchering some sort of

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Scripture, calling Donald Trump
a strong man, a strong man who

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Unknown: takes their soul they
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of as Tim Alberta said, you can
either take up the sword with a

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strong man like Donald Trump, or
you can walk in the path of

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Jesus. They have all completely
you know, in their cheek I was

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to their face I was making about

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Adam Curry: a turn their cheek
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John C Dvorak: You're these
these women on the viewer, a

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bunch of atheists. I love the
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Adam Curry: their cheek on faith
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John C Dvorak: are a bunch of
atheists and then they go off

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every once in a while. I don't
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the other direction is. I have
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these people. Well, that's why
it's fun.

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completely, you know, in their

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cheek, I was to their face. I
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thinking about all of this
today. And it's like, you know,

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Adam Curry: was thinking smoke
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Unknown: I was to their face. I
was thinking about all of this

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today. And it's like, you know,
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Reagan was around? John Kennedy

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and the rest of them. There was
a certain decorum in the

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atmosphere. There is total chaos
now because of social media, and

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all of the things that he any
anonymous idiot can make a

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is scary. Many people realize
that they were this is really up

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to us. It's not up to the media.
It's not up to us at The table

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it is strictly in your hands.
What country do you want to be

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in? What country do you want to
be in? Do you want to be in a

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country where people can live up
to their potential no matter

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what their faith is, no matter
what their visual is, no matter

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what their proclivities are, the
country you want, where you can

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be who you are, or do you want
to be in a country where the man

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says, day one, I'm going to be a
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Adam Curry: Oh, misquote,
dictator, dictator, come on. So

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they're just, you know, again,
just go listen to C span in the

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morning you'll hear Democrat
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dictator. You'll hear we're
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You'll hear Republican line.
Biden's letting the man ruining

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John C Dvorak: Just just

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Adam Curry: to prove a gummy
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such a douche in the troll room.

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John C Dvorak: I'm very nerd 33

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Adam Curry: Yeah, he's a douche.

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John C Dvorak: He's a douche
various a guy or a girl. You may

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have misgendered him? Yeah, I

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Adam Curry: hope I did. But Adam
isn't even aware that the

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Canadian truckers are really
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I am douche.

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Unknown: A federal court has
ruled the government's use of

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the emergencies act during the
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Was not justified. The CBC is
Karina Roman, is live in Ottawa

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and Karina even reading over
their decision, which runs

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nearly 200 pages. So we're just
all kind of getting our heads

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into it. But so far, what have
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let's just go over the language
that the judge has, in terms of

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his conclusion,

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Adam Curry: this was actually
quite an interesting,

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interesting take that happened.
And I think it's worthy of two

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clips, that, you know, Trudeau
going after the truckers, taking

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their money, blocking their
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And they're homina, homina
homina, about

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Unknown: him, saying, I have
concluded that the decision to

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issue the proclamation that
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emergencies Act does not bear
the hallmarks of reasonableness,

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justification, transparency, and
intelligibility and was not

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justified in relation to the
relevant factual and legal

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constraints that were required
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that he found very differently

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than the public inquiry, the
Reloop reloc Commission, which

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found the government was
justified, in invoking emergency

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sacked Andrew. And of course,
you know, in this 190 Plus

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pages, there are many, many
reasons, many goes over the

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arguments of both sides, just to
give people a sense of what

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parts of the charter we're
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about section two B, which is
the freedom of expression,

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Section eight, which is search
and seizure, he did not find

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that there was any infringement
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even though of course, you know,
people were restricted in where

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they were allowed to go. That
is, you know, allowed with

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reasonable limits, but in terms
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search and seizure, that's where
he found there were

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infringement.

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Adam Curry: Actually might have
been blue douche 33 I don't know

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if someone named douche

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know
about all this. But so what what

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difference does it make? What do
you make this point? What

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difference does it make? They
can't, you know, make Trudeau

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bend over and take care of 20
lashes? Well,

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Adam Curry: it was really the it
was Chris Chrystia Freeland,

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who, who was in charge of this
operation? I do have she

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John C Dvorak: resigned. I think
that she well, she came out and

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apologized for some

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Adam Curry: what she's not.
She's not a horrible woman not

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apologizing here. So

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Unknown: we are aware of the
court decision. We have

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John C Dvorak: you noticed the
cadence. Oh, yeah. It this is

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the same meal. You have Susan
Rice. Lisa Monaco, they all have

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the same exact they're all part
of some sort of some sort of

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underlying middle you didn't

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Adam Curry: she go to? There was
something about her background

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that I recall when we look it
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Unknown: we are aware of the
court decision. We have

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discussed it with the Prime
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colleagues, with senior federal
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experts. We respect very much
Canada's independent judiciary.

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However, we do not agree with
this decision. And respectfully,

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we will be appealing it. I would
just like to take a moment to

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remind Canadians of See how
serious the situation was in our

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country. When we took that
decision, the public safety of

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Canadians was under threat. Our
national security, which

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includes our national economic
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very seriously, after a lot of
hard work, after a lot of

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careful deliberation. We were
convinced at the time, I was

451
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convinced at the time, it was
the right thing to do. It was

452
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the necessary thing to do. I
remain and we remain convinced

453
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of that.

454
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Adam Curry: So she says there
was it was necessary, there was

455
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a national emergency. That's
actually the part that is most

456
00:26:01,170 --> 00:26:05,310
damning as there was there were
issues in Ottawa, but no way was

457
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there a national emergency.

458
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:10,080
Unknown: And in terms of the
justifiability. Andrew, you'll

459
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,890
recall that there was a lot of
talk about the CSIS definition

460
00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:18,360
of a national threat to
security. And what's interesting

461
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,630
is the judge found, it doesn't
actually matter whether or not

462
00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:25,440
CSIS said that there was a
national security threat or not

463
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,410
me that should be given weight,
that, you know, it's something

464
00:26:28,410 --> 00:26:32,250
to actually consider, but it's
not the sole reason to invoke

465
00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:34,710
it. So you might say, Well, then
why did he say they were

466
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:39,360
unjustified? And, and, again,
Andrew, I've only read parts of

467
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,470
it. But from what I gather, it
really comes down to this was

468
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:48,540
not a national emergency, that
the police and the provincial

469
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:50,790
authorities in different regions
where we were talking about

470
00:26:50,790 --> 00:26:54,180
Alberta and Coots, or whether
we're talking about Quebec, or

471
00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:58,560
Windsor, they were able to deal
with the problem at hand what

472
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,980
really the problem was Ottawa,
and that means it wasn't a

473
00:27:01,980 --> 00:27:06,180
national emergency. Any talks as
well about some of the financial

474
00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:09,120
penalties they brought in in
terms of seizing and freezing

475
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,360
bank accounts, because that
affected people beyond just the

476
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,780
people they were trying to
affect that itself was an

477
00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:20,250
overstep. But he does say that
the Cabinet had the right and

478
00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:24,330
the power to invoke in terms of
that is within their power, but

479
00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:27,690
they did not have the
justification. It was an

480
00:27:27,690 --> 00:27:33,030
unreasonable evidence before
Yeah, I got it.

481
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,330
John C Dvorak: Then again, yeah,
so what?

482
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:41,400
Adam Curry: Well, you You said
yourself to our our friendly

483
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:46,680
Canadians of Great America is
that they're good at complaining

484
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:48,180
and maybe they'll complain
enough.

485
00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:52,590
John C Dvorak: Yes, I did bring
it when they complain

486
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:54,750
Adam Curry: and they keep keep
complaining that that's very

487
00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:57,930
offensive. And they're
complaining, complaining about

488
00:27:57,930 --> 00:27:58,440
me

489
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,620
John C Dvorak: date. Well, just
for people who don't I was on

490
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:05,160
Grand American. I have a thesis
about the American Revolution.

491
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:09,810
The difference between the
Canadians and the United States

492
00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:13,320
when they were both run by
Britain, is that we had a right

493
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,700
we had an armed revolution where
a violent folk, the Canadians

494
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:21,660
never did, they never had an arm
revolution. They just complain,

495
00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:26,610
they complain and complain. And
they are right and even they

496
00:28:26,610 --> 00:28:30,930
kind of know they're really good
at complaining. Yeah, it works.

497
00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:35,940
And it does work. It does work
is different. It's a different

498
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:41,430
approach in our approach but

499
00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:46,860
Adam Curry: so while we're in in
this season of reveal now we

500
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:51,000
know Okay, so that was bogus.
The our trucker thing this

501
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,670
700,000 trucks is a boat I don't

502
00:28:53,670 --> 00:28:55,950
John C Dvorak: understand why
any trucker would go down to

503
00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:57,750
Texas. You have to

504
00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:02,280
Adam Curry: and the vibe in
Texas is we're gonna get them I

505
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,170
mean, people are spun up
seriously they're spun up Yeah,

506
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,230
we're gonna we're not we're not
going to stand for it. I pray

507
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:14,670
that everything goes okay down
there. It won't take much look

508
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:17,700
at this just look at the videos
on tick tock and YouTube and

509
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:21,090
everyone's cracking up their
guns and getting ready it's like

510
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,040
oh my god please It's not worth
it not this this is not the this

511
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:34,170
is not the battleground in there
I think Abbott went too far now

512
00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:36,840
and it's not even him it's just
the all the

513
00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:39,600
John C Dvorak: all these other
organizations like this others

514
00:29:39,630 --> 00:29:43,710
sketchy operation sketchy say
the borders org or whatever it

515
00:29:43,710 --> 00:29:48,600
is. Yeah. You have to wonder
what what's going really going

516
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,380
on. I swore I wouldn't go to the
board in a million years. We

517
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:55,710
Adam Curry: have boots on the
ground. So but seriously three

518
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:59,040
miles away from Eagle Pass
people walking across the

519
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,180
border. Hello, I'm in. So

520
00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:05,580
John C Dvorak: this is a there
was a guy. In fact, there was,

521
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:09,570
there was a guy on one of the TV
networks that was just walking

522
00:30:09,570 --> 00:30:14,430
back and forth across the
border. United States, Mexico. I

523
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:16,320
mean, I didn't get back and
forth and back and forth.

524
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Exactly. Now, this, you brought
up the point of the replacements

525
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,210
you're bringing in yet because
our people don't want to work

526
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240
Adam Curry: migrate? Yes,
migration replacement,

527
00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:33,750
John C Dvorak: I have a series
of tick tock videos. All right,

528
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:40,410
about the Gen Z, the Gen Z's who
don't want to work now I have

529
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:42,150
kind of their latest kind of
play

530
00:30:42,150 --> 00:30:44,460
Adam Curry: the jingle first and
play the jingle. So we feel good

531
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:46,290
about tock tock, tick tock.

532
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,320
John C Dvorak: No, I have
different ways of looking at

533
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,830
this. And I've got one clip
that'll kind of push it over to

534
00:30:55,830 --> 00:31:00,450
one side. But there are rational
reasons that and I've, I've seen

535
00:31:00,450 --> 00:31:04,770
these videos, why these kids
don't want to work because it's

536
00:31:04,770 --> 00:31:10,140
like they're being exploited.
The minimum wage isn't what it

537
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:14,100
should be. It's 40% below what
it should be on and on date that

538
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:18,720
you see a lot of it, but I'm
taking the more of the critical

539
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,590
side of this because I think I
think that's always more

540
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:26,010
beneficial. If people can take
criticism, even though these

541
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:29,220
books certainly can I want to
play a few of these. I have

542
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:32,550
quite a few actually. But
they're entertaining. I want to

543
00:31:32,550 --> 00:31:36,330
start with the Gen Z dude who's
quitting.

544
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:41,460
Unknown: Here's why I'm quitting
my first full time job. For one

545
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:45,480
we have to go into the office
every day. I have to wake up at

546
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:49,140
eight so I can get into the
office by nine times even

547
00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:55,260
earlier. Two, people always are
telling me what to do. That's

548
00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:59,280
not how I roll. You just because
just because you're in a

549
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,590
position above me, doesn't mean
you can tell me what to do.

550
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:08,400
Okay. And three, I'm not getting
paid over 100k Yes, this is my

551
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,630
first full time job. But also I
know my worth, and it's well

552
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:16,950
over 100k And I'm not getting
that. So I'm excited to announce

553
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:20,160
that I am quitting and pursuing
full time social media

554
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:24,990
influencer brands, if you would
like to work with me, please hit

555
00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:26,790
me up. Thank you.

556
00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:30,060
Adam Curry: Well, this is a
loaded clip.

557
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:35,550
John C Dvorak: First, yes, of
course. This is noodle boy. Part

558
00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:42,390
two, more or less. And this guy
is just so full of himself and

559
00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:45,120
he's going to be an influencer
oatcakes. Sure.

560
00:32:45,150 --> 00:32:48,420
Adam Curry: Which is the number
one dream job of most young

561
00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:50,250
people. Yeah,

562
00:32:50,610 --> 00:32:53,040
John C Dvorak: well, it's it is
a dream job because if you were

563
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,510
an influence, you could actually
pull it off which is rare. You

564
00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,730
can make a million dollars a
year yeah.

565
00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:01,770
Adam Curry: For a while.

566
00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:04,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not
forever as long as you feed the

567
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,920
algos. I do want to get to the
classic dough didn't do I should

568
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,600
play this at first this is a one
this woman the nine to five gals

569
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,950
to clip she is the one that said
a lot of this off articles were

570
00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:23,130
written about her she's there's
at least 10 clips of her

571
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:25,800
apologizing for one thing or
another. And then she finally

572
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,110
ended up quitting her job. And
she's got a clip with that. But

573
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:32,610
this is the original clip that
got everything started. And so

574
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:37,650
far as the Gen Z's being
condemned by other people. And

575
00:33:37,650 --> 00:33:40,500
Unknown: I'm probably just being
so dramatic and annoying. But

576
00:33:40,530 --> 00:33:44,280
this is my first job like my
first job after college and I'm

577
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,610
in person. And I'm commuting in
the city and it takes me puking

578
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:50,730
forever to get there. There's no
way I'm going to be able to

579
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:53,610
afford living in the city right
now. So that's off the table

580
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:56,490
like fucking da, if I was able
to walk to work, and it'd be

581
00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:59,430
fun, but I'm not. So it
literally takes me like I leave

582
00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:02,730
here like I get on the train at
730 and I don't get home till

583
00:34:02,730 --> 00:34:06,630
like 615 earliest. And then
like, I don't have time to do

584
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:10,020
anything I don't. I want to
shower, eat my dinner and go to

585
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:13,050
sleep. I don't have time or
energy to cook by dinner either.

586
00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:16,170
Like I don't have energy to work
out like that's out the window.

587
00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:21,780
Like I'm so upset. Nothing to do
with my job at all. But just

588
00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:25,800
like the nine to five schedule
in general is crazy. Being in

589
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,470
office nine to five like if it
was remote, you get off at five

590
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,380
and you're home and everything's
fine but like I'm not home it

591
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:35,820
takes me long to get home and
like, like people are dropped to

592
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:38,970
the office like it doesn't you
don't get off at five. And I

593
00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:41,640
know it could be worse. I know I
could be working longer but like

594
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,000
I literally get off it's pitch
black like I don't have energy.

595
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,340
How do you have friends? Like
how do you have time to like,

596
00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:51,660
meet like a guy I don't know.
Like how do you tell I'm really

597
00:34:51,660 --> 00:34:54,810
dating like I don't have time
for anything and I'm like so

598
00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:57,810
stressed out and I'm also
getting my period so that's why

599
00:34:57,810 --> 00:35:01,620
I was emotional but like, am I
I'm melodramatic, it's fine.

600
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:05,490
Adam Curry: I think there's a
couple of things at play here

601
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:09,960
first and foremost, without a
doubt wages are too low for

602
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,780
inflation and it is very
difficult to make ends meet just

603
00:35:15,810 --> 00:35:20,580
for the basics which now now of
course these children are being

604
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:24,210
pushed towards Yeah, we should
have universal basic income note

605
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:31,140
the basic word to that was you
cannot discount several years of

606
00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:36,300
work at home, which is quite
preferable to I guess everybody

607
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:39,330
work at home that's much better.
Yeah,

608
00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:41,340
John C Dvorak: what she said
herself, you know, when you work

609
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:44,100
at home you get when it's five
o'clock, and by the way, that

610
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,250
one and I don't have any clips
exemplifying this but all the

611
00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:52,320
Gen Z are supposedly literally
stopped. Maybe they do have one

612
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,300
stop at five at five o'clock.
Computers off. They're out the

613
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:57,630
door.

614
00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:04,890
Adam Curry: John, we saw that 15
years ago of me view. Five

615
00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:11,640
o'clock. Pick up the bag. 505
Everyone's gone. Yeah, poof. And

616
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,450
that's and that is just a
general worth that we saw during

617
00:36:15,450 --> 00:36:18,120
the show. We have seen this take
place. We saw the post

618
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,810
suffocation. We saw the
pandering we saw it and this is

619
00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:24,840
part of the I know it sounds
Boomer ish even though I'm Gen

620
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,750
X, the voice of Gen X and the
face or hair of Gen X I was the

621
00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:36,600
head of Gen X. We saw the
participation trophies. And just

622
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:41,670
to insert some quick clip into
your clips. Now we have at

623
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:46,500
airports, multiple airports
around the United States, the

624
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,860
sunflower Blaine, have you heard
of the sunflower lane?

625
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:55,170
John C Dvorak: No. If you didn't
already, it sounds bad. If

626
00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:57,630
Adam Curry: you display the
sunflower symbol, which you can

627
00:36:57,630 --> 00:37:00,720
get at the airport, there's a
special Lane in case you're you

628
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,210
know, autistic or triggered some

629
00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:06,090
Unknown: passengers at Gerald R
Ford International Airport may

630
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:09,570
soon be sporting a bright yellow
sunflower, it's part of a

631
00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:13,170
program to identify those who
may need extra assistance. It's

632
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:16,650
part of the hidden disabilities
sunflower program. That means

633
00:37:16,650 --> 00:37:19,920
airport staff will be trained to
recognize the sunflower symbol

634
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:23,190
and provide assistance and
accommodation as needed. The

635
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:25,830
Sunflower item can be found at
the airport's Visitor

636
00:37:25,830 --> 00:37:29,430
Information Desk and security
screening checkpoint. hidden

637
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:32,850
disabilities are physical or
mental impairments that others

638
00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:36,570
may not be able to see like
learning disabilities, diabetes

639
00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:41,070
or epilepsy for an airport joins
over 232 Other airports around

640
00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:44,820
the world aiming to make travel
more inclusive and accessible

641
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:47,070
for all 432

642
00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:50,340
Adam Curry: airports for the if
you have learning disabilities.

643
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:52,290
Come on.

644
00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:55,920
John C Dvorak: Wow, this cropped
up overnight wonder who's behind

645
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,840
it that's worth looking into.
Yeah,

646
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,510
Adam Curry: just popped up for
me this morning. And I saw an

647
00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:04,650
article and someone sent me that
someone sent me a note about it.

648
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:09,030
And you know that it was for
people who have autism hidden

649
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:14,970
disabilities. Hey, a my when I
was a kid, blind people went

650
00:38:14,970 --> 00:38:20,370
through the airport. Talk about
a disability. They didn't get a

651
00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:26,160
special line. But now it's like,
oh, I have learning disability.

652
00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:31,140
Oh, you can't learn to stand in
line. No, I can't. I can't deal

653
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,780
with a line. I can't deal with
people in the line. Alright,

654
00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:35,550
back to your Tiktok sets
interest.

655
00:38:35,550 --> 00:38:37,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't
deal with people I can't stand

656
00:38:37,290 --> 00:38:39,510
in line can't stand. What

657
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:41,880
Adam Curry: is happening. You
know what it is? It is food

658
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,270
starvation. They have no
nutrition. They're eating bad

659
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:49,680
food and their bread. Idiocracy
is nearby. It's common

660
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:55,800
John C Dvorak: people here we go
to a British, a black British

661
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,700
girl who is Gen Z. And here's
her lament.

662
00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:03,990
Unknown: And Z won't apply to
jobs. Gen Z won't put up with

663
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:08,850
this. And all I can think is
great. I am so glad that people

664
00:39:08,850 --> 00:39:14,670
born 1997 and on have some sense
not to be exploited. There's

665
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:17,880
never a reason that we shouldn't
be offering salary ranges on

666
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,840
jobs. I've genuinely wonder what
companies think jobs are for, I

667
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,780
would never apply to something
if I don't know that they're

668
00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:28,200
going to provide me with a wage
that I deserve. And that's

669
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,220
especially true as a black woman
where I know I am much more

670
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:36,780
likely to not be compensated at
the same rate as my white co

671
00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:42,810
workers. Gen Z. Care about
equity and diversity is a core

672
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:47,040
principle for a majority of the
generation. So when we're

673
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,220
talking about Gen Z, changing
things up in the workplace,

674
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:53,580
wanting work from home, wanting
to know how much they will get

675
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:58,140
paid. All I can think is great.
Let's do more of this.

676
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:05,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have the
get what I deserve. Yeah, meme,

677
00:40:06,030 --> 00:40:07,410
which isn't dollars.

678
00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:10,860
Adam Curry: You know, I
understand the disappointment

679
00:40:10,890 --> 00:40:15,090
because I have children with
this disappointment, like, I'm

680
00:40:15,090 --> 00:40:18,660
working in a restaurant, but I
went to college, and I got a

681
00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:23,700
degree. And, and that was kind
of the promise is don't worry,

682
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:27,690
you know, that just did not
happen. So, you know, sold

683
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:31,920
drugs, it made a profit got it,
but I was promised and now it

684
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,820
John C Dvorak: was promised who
promised him so society or

685
00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:39,000
society? Well, yes, if it was a
person promising you'd I could

686
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,480
see that you'd have a complaint.
But society can't make promises.

687
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,800
I should mention that you don't

688
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,940
Adam Curry: have to convince me
by the way back in my day. It

689
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:54,630
MTV. We I think the 1987 88
interest rates were high, I

690
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:59,040
would say they were in the nine
10%. Nine, I think nine or 10%.

691
00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:05,640
New York was in shambles. MTV
paid. That was non union. If you

692
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,590
are an associate producer, an
AP, which is kind of you know,

693
00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:14,880
you run scripts around and you
and you get coffee. No, it's

694
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,560
above gopher. It's an actual
title you get it says but

695
00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:25,230
brunette he's not old enough to
know what I'm talking about. Me

696
00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:28,530
you had a path there was a path
to go from a P to P you could

697
00:41:28,530 --> 00:41:33,900
become a producer peep these
kids lived for in a in a house

698
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:37,500
in Brooklyn, which at the time
Brooklyn was Brooklyn. It was

699
00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:41,370
not it was not Yeah, it was not.
And they had massive commutes to

700
00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:46,380
get into the city. And they were
happy. I mean, yeah. And they

701
00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:50,400
they got by and they worked and
and they were the first to be

702
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,580
there. And the lastly because I
can become a P I can be a

703
00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:57,810
producer. If I keep at it. And
then I've seen many of them go

704
00:41:57,810 --> 00:42:02,340
on to I see the Joey the horse
de mio I see him on credit roll

705
00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:07,770
of big award shows as the
director used to get coffee. But

706
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:12,510
he grinded. You know. That's
that's what's gone. And I'm not

707
00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:13,410
quite sure how I

708
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:14,850
John C Dvorak: think you're
right, that that's definitely

709
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:18,000
what's missing. Yeah. And I
think it has to do with the

710
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,240
educational system and the so
called promise from the society.

711
00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:27,480
That yes, I do have a two parter
here. That before we get to the

712
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,370
one that's going to be the end
is going to be the hiring

713
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:31,710
managers, which is going to be
some people actually talking

714
00:42:31,710 --> 00:42:38,640
about this. But this is a two
parter from a long clip. It's an

715
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:46,380
X Gen lament. And it is it's a
bunch of X Gen Xers Gen Z lament

716
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:52,380
it's a bunch of Gen Z years
talking socialism and universal

717
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:54,960
basic income this was actually
put aside for the universal

718
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,800
basic income discussion. Yes,
and it's it's a bunch of

719
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,700
different people coming in and
out. And and it's got a music

720
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:06,660
bed, I'm sorry. But it's at
least shows you some of the

721
00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:10,740
other the other element at play
here. Because that last one girl

722
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:14,550
who was a black woman who's
saying we're into equity, in

723
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:16,860
other words, we're into you
know, everyone gets should get

724
00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:22,350
$100,000 a year, just because
they're good people. So let's

725
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:24,600
start with this, this, listen to
this, or know

726
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,420
Unknown: who needs to hear this.
But the majority of your

727
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:30,690
struggles are because of
capitalism having to spend the

728
00:43:30,690 --> 00:43:34,890
majority of your life in forced
labor. Because getting your

729
00:43:34,890 --> 00:43:40,350
physiological needs met is good
kept behind a paywall is not how

730
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:43,860
humans should be living their
lives. Humans really have to pay

731
00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:48,300
money to stay alive. We have to
pay for food, we have to pay for

732
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:52,050
water. We have to pay for
shelter. The Universe put us on

733
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:54,360
Earth, a planet that has
everything humans needs to

734
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,390
survive. And yet we've evolved
to the point where we have to

735
00:43:57,390 --> 00:43:59,850
pay money to stay alive. And

736
00:43:59,850 --> 00:44:04,200
we're working 40 to 60 hours a
week, like on average. And we

737
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,520
cannot afford to live like we
just do not make enough to pay

738
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,110
rent to pay for food. Everything
is so expensive right now in

739
00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:16,140
wages are not keeping up with
the cost of living and I

740
00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:19,200
think to myself, is it
depression or is it just the

741
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,420
reality? We're living in an
excess?

742
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:22,470
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I've

743
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:24,390
Adam Curry: seen this. Is it
depression? Well, it's part of

744
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:26,490
it is economic depression. Yes.

745
00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:32,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a little
bit. Yeah. It's a spotty. But

746
00:44:32,730 --> 00:44:37,860
this is the idea that you're a
human so you deserve free.

747
00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:40,650
Shelter free food.

748
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:43,620
Adam Curry: And remember, Andrew
Yang's property propagated this

749
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:48,360
Andrew Yang the UBI this has
been propagated by many

750
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,900
politicians. This is out there
and it's being dangled like

751
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:56,670
yeah, we need the basics. We
have the rights. We have human

752
00:44:56,670 --> 00:45:01,290
rights for food, clothing,
shelter. We should get that for

753
00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:03,840
free. That should be the basics.
And then when we work we get to

754
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,350
party.

755
00:45:06,629 --> 00:45:09,239
John C Dvorak: Face, where
Valerie

756
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,750
Adam Curry: Gail Clark curry
would say, Adam Clark curry.

757
00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:18,840
Life is unfair. It was harsh.
But it was said to me many, many

758
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,440
times

759
00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:24,270
John C Dvorak: or two, there's
just something

760
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:27,420
Unknown: very unnatural about
being in this world, the fact

761
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:31,170
that we have to pay to live, you
know, pay to have health

762
00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:35,250
insurance, pay to eat and drink
like money is so fucking

763
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:38,910
important. Why do we put so much
power into a piece of paper and

764
00:45:38,910 --> 00:45:40,260
cotton? Is it

765
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,350
depression? Or is it the fact
that our government is more

766
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:47,010
aligned with corporate profit
than human lives?

767
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:50,430
government keeps us in a
perpetual cycle of struggling

768
00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:53,190
and suffering that most people
can't even pay attention to

769
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:55,980
anything outside of their own
communities? Let alone what is

770
00:45:55,980 --> 00:45:56,760
happening in the world?

771
00:45:56,790 --> 00:46:01,620
Is it depression? Or is it the
culture of our country that if

772
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:05,580
you can't get ahead, you're just
not working hard enough? There

773
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:05,880
is

774
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,660
no reward for hard working
people anymore? I don't want to

775
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:12,720
work anymore. What is the point
you cannot get ahead?

776
00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:18,390
Is it depression? Or do I just
need to work harder? Three jobs

777
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,410
and still fucking struggling?
And I'm just getting myself

778
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,320
farther and farther into credit
card debt because I don't have

779
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,300
enough to avoid using it feels
like I'm drowning. Is it

780
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:30,900
depression?

781
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:34,920
Are we just been priced out of
existence? Water, housing,

782
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,700
health care,

783
00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:38,520
everyone should have access to
them. It shouldn't matter. Your

784
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,790
social economic class matter
your sex, gender, racial

785
00:46:41,790 --> 00:46:46,860
identity. They are basic human
necessities. No one should go

786
00:46:46,860 --> 00:46:47,340
without.

787
00:46:49,050 --> 00:46:54,390
So what is it? Is it depression?
Or is it just living in America?

788
00:46:55,590 --> 00:46:57,540
Adam Curry: There's one thing
that about the visual of this

789
00:46:57,540 --> 00:47:02,700
clip, which I did see. And I you
can't really know for sure, but

790
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:06,720
look like everyone in their car
had a pretty nice car. Yeah, I

791
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:11,160
noticed. And, and I don't know
that a lot. My first car, I was

792
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:16,740
on television, I was making
19,000 guilders a year on

793
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:21,240
television, which at the time
was $8,000. I think, of course,

794
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:25,920
it was Dutch socialist country.
My first car was a lancea. An

795
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,410
old lancea with the paint was
all off, scraped off it. And the

796
00:47:31,410 --> 00:47:36,720
wheel literally flew off while I
was driving to work one day. You

797
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:40,440
know, it's like that we had Crap
Cars. We worked on him

798
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,290
ourselves. As you can tell,
that's when my wheel fell off,

799
00:47:43,290 --> 00:47:47,790
because I didn't tighten it. But
you know, it's like that, that

800
00:47:47,790 --> 00:47:49,680
John C Dvorak: we used to work
on cars. Yeah, we used to work

801
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,100
on our own cars and move them to
your own car. Well, you have a

802
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:57,510
gun I had we had the gun. Strobe
Light in the car.

803
00:47:57,630 --> 00:48:00,330
Adam Curry: Can I just can I
just insert a little anecdote

804
00:48:00,330 --> 00:48:02,130
because this is certainly not so

805
00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:03,780
John C Dvorak: well. Before you
do that. I just want to mention

806
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:07,380
that last clip. When that woman
was reading her laundry list,

807
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:13,590
she said she used the term
racial identity. Yes. So you can

808
00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:17,460
just say like, self identifies
anything you want.

809
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:24,180
Adam Curry: Of course you can,
including a victim. So I had not

810
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:28,590
flown since we flew to Nashville
after the show. And part of the

811
00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:32,850
reason why this is firstly,
taking flying lessons I'm going

812
00:48:32,850 --> 00:48:36,210
for my instrument rating is
expensive. But Amy Lynn, who was

813
00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:41,730
my instructor, 24 years old, she
put herself through American

814
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:48,930
Airlines Academy took out a loan
for I think $15,000 and, and

815
00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:54,210
she, the timing was perfect. She
got hired immediately at at a

816
00:48:54,210 --> 00:48:58,380
regional airline. So boom, she
was gone. So I really wanted to

817
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:01,350
make this flight so we can be
back for the show, and then have

818
00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:04,320
a release two nights with my
buddy Vico, who I've known for

819
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:10,800
35 years in Dallas. And so the
new instructor, Nick, Nick is 27

820
00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:15,180
Similar story, took out loans
because he wanted to be a pilot,

821
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:20,460
took out loans, put himself
through flight school. 27 has a

822
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:25,410
two week old baby. His wife is
now at home with the baby. He is

823
00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:27,690
going to work for one year then
we're gonna move back up to

824
00:49:27,690 --> 00:49:32,160
Dallas get his ATP is air
transport license so he can fly

825
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,220
on jets. He sees a future of
course there is a future right

826
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:39,390
now. And you know and he's I am
not a CIO so she doesn't know

827
00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:42,180
who I am of course he's like you
aren't MTV me back when they

828
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:47,700
played music? Yeah, the back in
those days. Listens to maybe one

829
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:52,530
podcast from time to time is not
on social media. It I like

830
00:49:52,530 --> 00:49:56,610
reading books. I'm just saying
it's not this is not par for the

831
00:49:56,610 --> 00:50:00,000
course for everybody. But I was
delighted and very very pleased.

832
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,990
He's with my instructor. The
young future of America. It is

833
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:05,730
it is here it is here.

834
00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:08,790
John C Dvorak: That's probably
true but that's what we do on

835
00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:09,270
the show but

836
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:11,220
Adam Curry: he's not on Tik Tok.
So that

837
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,029
John C Dvorak: so we're gonna go
to the last clip in the series,

838
00:50:15,029 --> 00:50:20,039
which is these are. This is a
radio, like Good morning zoo

839
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:24,119
show radios on the run of the
radio stations and they're, and

840
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:28,769
they're reading and discussing.
Yeah, everything's got you got

841
00:50:28,769 --> 00:50:29,339
everything ready.

842
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:30,660
Adam Curry: I'm ready. I'm
ready.

843
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,420
John C Dvorak: They're
discussing what hiring managers

844
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:37,980
have kind of uncovered about Gen
Z and I thought this was a good

845
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:41,160
way to wrap up this series of
complainers 100

846
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Unknown: hiring managers were
part of this survey and they

847
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,090
were asked about Gen Z
employees. Well, more than half

848
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,270
say recent calling college
graduates are not prepared for

849
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:54,840
the workforce. 53% said young
applicants struggle to make eye

850
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,770
contact during job interviews.
50% say they're asking for

851
00:50:58,770 --> 00:51:03,420
unreasonable compensation.
Nearly half say the interviewees

852
00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:08,670
showed up wearing inappropriate
attire. 21% refused to turn

853
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:13,440
their cameras on for virtual
interviews. And one in five

854
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,190
employers say a recent college
graduate had actually brought

855
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:23,040
their mom or a dad to the job
interview. People are bringing

856
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,660
their parents to a job
interview.

857
00:51:24,660 --> 00:51:27,510
It's embarrassing. I thought
you're gonna say when it came to

858
00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:31,770
the camera and you know the
virtual interview so they were

859
00:51:31,770 --> 00:51:33,960
using those filters like with
the dog ears and stuff like

860
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,110
that.

861
00:51:34,110 --> 00:51:37,140
I could see that happening to
now those Jen's ears lucky

862
00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:40,020
enough to get the job are not
starting off on the right foot.

863
00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:43,380
63% of employers say young
professionals can't manage their

864
00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:48,330
workload. 59% say they miss
deadlines often and 53% report

865
00:51:48,330 --> 00:51:51,210
they're frequently late to
meetings, and Gen Z has a bad

866
00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:55,230
attitude to 58% of employers say
the young jobseekers get too

867
00:51:55,230 --> 00:51:59,370
easily offended. Imagine that
55% Fine, they don't respond

868
00:51:59,370 --> 00:52:03,240
well to constructive feedback
and 52% claim they have poor

869
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:07,260
communication skills. So that
girl better adjust her attitude,

870
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:10,200
and learn how to dress for work
and not bring mom and dad to an

871
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,210
interview when she has an
opportunity for a better job.

872
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,730
Adam Curry: I think we should
just change their names from a

873
00:52:14,730 --> 00:52:18,000
Jen to just sunflower kids.
There's a sunflower kids.

874
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,790
They're the ones that need to go
to the special line at the

875
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:24,930
airport. They're the sunflower
kids. And and it's really Yeah,

876
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:28,200
if we if we want to place blame
on immigration, it's their

877
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,680
fault. That's why we have to
bring in Yeah, I have

878
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,030
John C Dvorak: to assume that
that's true. The good news is

879
00:52:36,030 --> 00:52:39,030
that even though it's a
minority, a lot of reporting

880
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:43,170
that came in because it's
52% 58% 63%. If somebody says

881
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:48,510
70%, say this, that means 30%
Don't are getting good people. I

882
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:52,200
mean, they're just not as though
it's not Gen Z is a bunch of bad

883
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,390
apples from beginning to end.
Because there's some that were

884
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:58,260
brought up correctly, they're
well worth they somehow got

885
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:02,280
jobs, maybe in the family store,
or they worked during the

886
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440
summers when they were because
when I was a kid I worked during

887
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,020
the summers when I was in high
school and college and

888
00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:11,160
Adam Curry: at what when you
when I was 16 Saturday job,

889
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:12,600
you're got you have a Saturday,

890
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:16,410
John C Dvorak: I had to paper
routes. But I had the paper out

891
00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:18,930
too. I had two paper routes.
Okay,

892
00:53:18,930 --> 00:53:20,130
Adam Curry: your bully for you?

893
00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:22,350
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I had a
shopper route, which is the

894
00:53:22,350 --> 00:53:27,030
moneymaker. Don't kid yourself.
Once a week. It was free money.

895
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:33,960
So anyway, the thing is, I had
run into kids, I give the same

896
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,900
thing. Yeah, maybe I did this in
that when I was a kid. And they

897
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:40,530
say there's no opportunity for
us because they've and I agree

898
00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:43,740
with these kids who say that
because we moved all our

899
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:48,630
manufacturing to China and
Mexico. And there's a lot of

900
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:53,340
word areas that used to be rife
with the industry or got nothing

901
00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:57,540
left. Except you know, some
storage facilities or store

902
00:53:57,540 --> 00:54:00,480
more, you know, your place where
you could put your stuff because

903
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:07,290
you got too much. So the problem
is, is systemic. But these kids

904
00:54:07,290 --> 00:54:08,610
have got to get a clue.

905
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Adam Curry: The Sunflower kids,
that's what I'm gonna call them

906
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:16,890
from now on the sunflower kids.
So, of course, this comes from,

907
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,940
and I'm guilty of this too, you
know, helping your kids out bad

908
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:23,430
teen as hard as you'd like.
That's it, you're not getting

909
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:28,980
any more figured out. Which is
what you need to do. You know,

910
00:54:29,130 --> 00:54:32,130
tough love it, hey, you can't
pay your rent, you got to find a

911
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:36,630
cheaper place. Or get another
roommate. I mean, they get

912
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:39,600
another roommate and that's what
we used to do. So it is also

913
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,720
parents but I will say though,
even if you listen to no agenda

914
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:48,090
stream, we've got the MMO the
millennial media offensive. We

915
00:54:48,090 --> 00:54:52,410
got good kids out there. I would
say that most of our producers

916
00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:56,640
have great kids. You meet him,
you meet him at meetups, they're

917
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,400
go getters, they they're out
there they're doing stuff so

918
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,780
it's this Is this is not our
norm. Let's put it that way.

919
00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:04,680
Thank God.

920
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,760
John C Dvorak: No, it's just I'm
guessing it's just it's not 100%

921
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,950
But there's a majority of Gen Z
kids that are like the ones that

922
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:18,510
were toddlers

923
00:55:18,510 --> 00:55:21,450
Adam Curry: sunflower kids
sunflower kids, well, then

924
00:55:21,450 --> 00:55:25,020
there's this this is not helping
much up the road from you in

925
00:55:25,050 --> 00:55:26,160
Oakland. It's

926
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,890
Unknown: just kind of scary in
general, not even just to go to

927
00:55:28,890 --> 00:55:31,320
work, but just kind of coming
outside. Dariel

928
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,470
Crenshaw works for Kaiser
Permanente oaklins largest

929
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:37,380
private employer, the health
plan is directed workers in

930
00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:40,860
Oakland to stay in their offices
for work and lunch, because of

931
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:44,220
concerns over crime. Workers are
being told to bring their own

932
00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:46,200
food or have it delivered, I do

933
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,700
agree. Because just their safety
for their employees, you know,

934
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:53,670
if you can work at home work at
home, if you have to come in,

935
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:55,080
just be safe about it

936
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,100
in a memo issued last month and
obtained by KTVU. Kaiser also

937
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,010
tells workers not based in
Oakland, don't have any meetings

938
00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:05,700
downtown, move them elsewhere,
or have them online, and also

939
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:08,850
says the Claremont hotel in the
hills is the only hotel approved

940
00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:12,240
for business logic. In a
statement, Kaiser said in part,

941
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:15,960
those recommendations remain in
place for now. Kaiser Permanente

942
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,450
is committed to ensuring the
safety and security of our

943
00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:21,480
employees and physicians across
all of our locations. We

944
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,180
continually monitor our
environments for concerns,

945
00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:26,670
review our practices and
strengthen them whenever

946
00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:29,370
possible. Many downtown
merchants and other people who

947
00:56:29,370 --> 00:56:31,770
live and work in the area are
taking issue with these

948
00:56:31,770 --> 00:56:32,670
directives. And that

949
00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:34,590
is a little upsetting to hear
that, you know, because you

950
00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:36,300
know, everyone's trying to
thrive. Everyone's trying to you

951
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:39,330
know, make business you know, it
is pretty slow as it is I don't

952
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:41,760
think you want to discourage
people from walking around and

953
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,370
kind of given to the bad
elements that are running

954
00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:46,890
around. I think I think quite
the opposite. I think if there

955
00:56:46,890 --> 00:56:50,040
are more people on the streets,
there will be less incidences.

956
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,900
Adam Curry: Yeah, we need better
examples than what's on tick

957
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:59,310
tock, you know, you better
examples of people who who grind

958
00:56:59,340 --> 00:57:03,480
go grind. That's That's what
used to be the American dream.

959
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:09,600
I'm old now. Of course, a lot of
jobs a lot of cushy job,

960
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,850
John C Dvorak: by the way, I
thought Foley sent me that clip

961
00:57:11,850 --> 00:57:12,870
exclusively.

962
00:57:13,890 --> 00:57:15,390
Adam Curry: Oh, I must have
picked it up from somewhere

963
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:19,650
else. I didn't get it from
Foley. I don't think so. I don't

964
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:26,460
remember. There was also and
this really stems from the from

965
00:57:26,460 --> 00:57:30,480
the.com Bubble days. As you
know, there were some reboots,

966
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:36,240
and we got this enormous true
bubble of quote unquote

967
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:42,120
journalism, journalists
journalism, which somehow

968
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,280
includes BuzzFeed. Then here is
millennial extraordinaire Taylor

969
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Lorenz lamenting the news
business.

970
00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:52,560
Unknown: The entire journalism
industry is basically in a

971
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,580
freefall. Today, the Los Angeles
Times laid off 115 employees,

972
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,210
they wiped out their entire DC
bureau in an election year, they

973
00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:03,030
laid off pretty much all of
their sports teams, they killed

974
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:05,670
their entire tech and business
section. They laid off breaking

975
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:09,000
news writers, social media
editors, the list goes on. But

976
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,390
what's really dark is this is
just the latest in months and

977
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:16,440
months and months of layoffs in
the media industry. In fact, 10s

978
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:19,710
of 1000s of journalists have
been laid off in the past year,

979
00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:22,500
major media companies like
Buzzfeed News have completely

980
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,740
shuttered their news operations.
Time magazine also just laid off

981
00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:28,620
a ton of people and Oh, Sports
Illustrated basically shut down

982
00:58:28,620 --> 00:58:31,650
last week. Pretty much the
entire digital media ecosystem

983
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:34,380
that myself and a lot of other
millennial journalists came up

984
00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:37,380
in has been completely hollowed
out and it's not just digital

985
00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:40,890
media sites, local news has been
obliterated. The newspaper

986
00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:45,240
industry is cratering rails
essentially dead aside from NPR

987
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,670
which has been gutted.
Meanwhile, hundreds of workers

988
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:50,250
at Conde Nast, the parent
company of pretty much every

989
00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:54,840
major magazine, from GQ to vogue
to the New Yorker to Vanity Fair

990
00:58:54,900 --> 00:58:58,530
are on strike because they're
also facing impending layoffs.

991
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,770
Even mainstream national media
outlets owned by billionaires

992
00:59:01,770 --> 00:59:04,650
like the Washington Post where I
work and the Atlantic right

993
00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:07,590
estore have done layoffs. If
you're a young journalist say

994
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:10,680
there's almost no on ramp to
traditional journalism, even if

995
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,530
you do get a job journalist
salaries have been stagnant and

996
00:59:13,530 --> 00:59:16,290
even declined. And by the way,
we don't make that much to begin

997
00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:18,420
with. I don't think people
understand how bad the world

998
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:21,180
would be without journalists,
journalists,

999
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:24,840
John C Dvorak: just as a backup
to that report from her, which

1000
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,070
was pretty concise up to say,
here's the print media declined

1001
00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:32,280
PBS report from the same
probably about the same time

1002
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,270
that she did that,

1003
00:59:33,450 --> 00:59:35,610
Unknown: you know, Emory, as
much as it pains me to say this

1004
00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:39,720
this this the story of print
media is in so many ways a story

1005
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,780
of decline Sports Illustrated,
which was once considered the

1006
00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:45,840
standard of sports journalism
today, announced they're going

1007
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,440
to lay off most of their staff.
You work in this space. Is there

1008
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,680
anything that is working? What's
the story of reinvention for

1009
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,980
print media? Is it the nonprofit
model that Evan Smith has

1010
00:59:55,980 --> 00:59:58,230
championed with the Texas
Tribune? The

1011
00:59:58,230 --> 01:00:00,990
Texas Tribune is a good example.
It's had some financial

1012
01:00:00,990 --> 01:00:04,410
challenges, but they've done
incredible work on a different

1013
01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:10,620
model. You we have seen in the
past handful of months, this

1014
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:15,000
initiative called press forward,
which is $500 million being

1015
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,930
committed across I think 22
donors, foundations and

1016
01:00:18,930 --> 01:00:23,490
individuals to support a local
news initiative. In markets

1017
01:00:23,490 --> 01:00:27,180
across the country. We have a
lot of people living in news

1018
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:30,870
deserts now in this country. And
this is an this is an effort to

1019
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:33,780
try to return local news to a
lot of those communities

1020
01:00:33,780 --> 01:00:38,010
strengthen it in places where
there may be fledgling efforts.

1021
01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:41,310
You know, Baltimore's another
good example of that, the

1022
01:00:41,310 --> 01:00:45,360
Baltimore banner, if the
Baltimore Sun is disappointing

1023
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,570
you you should be supporting
this new this new effort, which

1024
01:00:48,570 --> 01:00:54,810
is a startup, which is being run
in part by a lot of alumni from

1025
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,340
the Baltimore Sun. Look, in my
perfect world, they both thrive.

1026
01:01:00,330 --> 01:01:04,110
But if one model isn't working,
we have to be experimenting with

1027
01:01:04,110 --> 01:01:07,080
some others and a lot of those
are not for profit models.

1028
01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:08,880
Blogger

1029
01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:14,490
Adam Curry: news is worthless
news is news news just is news.

1030
01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:20,730
It's opinion that you're talking
about opinion and insight. And

1031
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,180
does yeah that's why it doesn't
work with the advertising and

1032
01:01:24,210 --> 01:01:28,080
you know, whatever. I want to
get back to that to that in a

1033
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:33,060
moment. I want to take a little
sidestep because the young kids

1034
01:01:33,090 --> 01:01:38,280
in the United Kingdom are
freaking out. And I have three

1035
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,230
clips to show what this is
really about but they're

1036
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:45,090
freaking out because the army
chief came out with a statement

1037
01:01:45,090 --> 01:01:50,760
and said Oh prepare for war
there will be conscription which

1038
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:56,370
is fancy English for the draft
and they're all add didn't get

1039
01:01:56,370 --> 01:02:00,030
any Tiktok clips, but they're
all They're not going to draft

1040
01:02:00,030 --> 01:02:03,480
me I'm not going to be the arm
I'm not gonna fight anybody. I'm

1041
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,020
not going to Oh, no, I'm not
gonna prepare for war. Now

1042
01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:09,000
Unknown: simply the United
States actually they're gonna

1043
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,080
station nuclear weapons in the
UK for the first time in 15

1044
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,680
years. And that's down to
tensions escalating with Russia.

1045
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:21,060
Yeah, Pentagon documents have
revealed the RAF Lakenheath in

1046
01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:24,840
Suffolk would host the warheads
that are reportedly three times

1047
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,000
as powerful as the Hiroshima
bomb.

1048
01:02:27,150 --> 01:02:31,830
Well, this comes as Boris
Johnson has vowed would fight

1049
01:02:31,830 --> 01:02:35,520
for his country if the UK goes
to war.

1050
01:02:35,730 --> 01:02:40,860
Adam Curry: Now let's listen to
Boris Johnson, who is very gaunt

1051
01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:44,340
looking these days, no doubt
from the ozempic that he tried

1052
01:02:44,340 --> 01:02:46,650
and he's really just promoting
his column.

1053
01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:50,850
Unknown: Lance Corporal Johnson
reporting for duty and

1054
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,110
responding to the appeal from
general sunders for a Citizen

1055
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:58,980
Army and encouraging young
people across the country to

1056
01:02:58,980 --> 01:03:02,070
think of the attractions
advantages of some kind of

1057
01:03:02,190 --> 01:03:05,610
military training or service
because the moment they think

1058
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:10,590
it's either uncool or unethical,
or perhaps they're not following

1059
01:03:11,010 --> 01:03:15,720
general Sanders, they're
following Colonel Sanders to

1060
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,290
find out what we need to do
about it. My column in the Daily

1061
01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:19,590
Mail,

1062
01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:22,380
Adam Curry: so let's find out
what this was really about. As

1063
01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:25,590
we have Sky News, where the
relatively serious sit down

1064
01:03:25,590 --> 01:03:30,630
interview with the former
minister of defense in the UK

1065
01:03:30,690 --> 01:03:32,700
Unknown: lucky to have to buy
sell with with us this morning.

1066
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:37,200
It's good to see very
serendipitous because somebody

1067
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,860
who you'll know well, General
Sir Patrick Saunders, I'm not

1068
01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:44,040
sure if you served with him, but
certainly you have. So you did.

1069
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,340
So he's suggesting reading
between the lines in the

1070
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:50,520
Telegraph today that if we go to
war with Russia, we could find

1071
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,130
that our US may have to be
conscripted. That's a bit alarm.

1072
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,310
Yes, head of the British Army,
one of the most cerebral

1073
01:03:56,310 --> 01:03:58,770
thinkers that we've got a
strategist, we need to listen

1074
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,860
and listen carefully. We've been
too complacent. I think I've

1075
01:04:01,860 --> 01:04:05,160
said this many times with you
what's coming over the horizon

1076
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,330
should shock us it should worry
us and we are not prepared.

1077
01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:12,150
We've had a couple of decades,
three decades or so since the

1078
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:15,810
Cold War, life has gone well,
it's now going to get more

1079
01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:20,160
difficult as authoritarian
states exploit our timidity

1080
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,640
perhaps reluctance to really put
fires out and the best example

1081
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:28,260
of that is a democracy on the on
the corner of Eastern Europe

1082
01:04:28,290 --> 01:04:32,070
that's in its third year is now
in conflict and we've not

1083
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:35,520
resolved that. So Patrick
Saunders is saying prepare for

1084
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,540
what's coming over the horizon.
There is a 1939 field to the

1085
01:04:39,540 --> 01:04:42,330
world right now. There's a
forest authoritarian states are

1086
01:04:42,330 --> 01:04:46,380
rearming. There's a risk
averseness about the West in

1087
01:04:46,380 --> 01:04:48,960
wanting to deal with that and
are waiting for it and

1088
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:51,450
institutions, global
institutions such as the United

1089
01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:55,710
Nations aren't able to hold
these Arab nations to account in

1090
01:04:55,710 --> 01:04:58,980
fact, the UN I'll go further is
reaching its League of Nations

1091
01:04:58,980 --> 01:05:02,460
moment unless It's reformed. So
that's where the world is

1092
01:05:02,460 --> 01:05:05,580
heading, we need to wake up to
that there's a mindset now of

1093
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:09,930
this era of insecurity that
we're heading towards. And but

1094
01:05:09,930 --> 01:05:13,050
we're still on a peacetime
defense budget of just 2%. That

1095
01:05:13,050 --> 01:05:16,710
does change. And the Red Sea is
a great example, that if you

1096
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:19,710
don't step forward, if you
don't, if you're not robust in

1097
01:05:19,710 --> 01:05:23,940
dealing with those that are
testing the the envelope, it

1098
01:05:23,940 --> 01:05:27,090
will be weakness will be
exploited, and it will affect

1099
01:05:27,090 --> 01:05:27,690
our economy

1100
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,620
Adam Curry: more money. We need
more money for weapons. That's

1101
01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:33,690
what this is all about. Yeah,

1102
01:05:33,690 --> 01:05:35,730
John C Dvorak: more money to
squander actually to put in

1103
01:05:35,730 --> 01:05:39,240
people's pockets. This half this
money is not there's report

1104
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,930
after report coming out that if
you know, maybe 40% of the money

1105
01:05:42,930 --> 01:05:44,970
is actually going to where it's
supposed to go. And the rest of

1106
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:47,820
its just being squandered or
pocketed, or Oh, yeah, this goes

1107
01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:51,210
through corrupt channels. I
mean, can we do something about

1108
01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:53,700
this before we start just
throwing more money at stuff?

1109
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,490
Can we it's not impossible.

1110
01:05:56,730 --> 01:05:59,790
Adam Curry: Ukraine says it
uncovered mass fraud and weapons

1111
01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:04,260
procurement. Oh, you don't say
report from Rwanda? Oh, wow,

1112
01:06:04,260 --> 01:06:08,670
really? Oh, that's a surprise.
Now back to the news business. I

1113
01:06:08,670 --> 01:06:14,010
believe part of it first of all,
way too much. That was just free

1114
01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:16,950
money. Alright, we just have to
live with that. That was free

1115
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:24,210
money for how many years? 1512
years. 0% interest that's free

1116
01:06:24,210 --> 01:06:28,890
money, free money. That's why
everyone was investing. The only

1117
01:06:28,890 --> 01:06:31,680
ones in my opinion did smart in
the news business, the New York

1118
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,220
Times, because they took that
free money and bought games.

1119
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,180
John C Dvorak: And kept MP
brought non news product s which

1120
01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:42,210
Adam Curry: is the Tiffany
network, CBS, they would always

1121
01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:46,860
news is a loss leader. And we
make it up we invest in our news

1122
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:50,130
to bring you news. So that's
part of our service just to get

1123
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:54,240
in the door. But you know, news
by itself has never been a

1124
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,560
profitable business. You either
buy a newspaper to propagandize

1125
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,670
for your own for your own means
for your own business or

1126
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,670
whatever you want to use it for.
That's why billionaires have

1127
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,430
always owned rich men,
particularly our own

1128
01:07:08,430 --> 01:07:12,330
publications. It's just it's not
a business. But now we oh, we

1129
01:07:12,330 --> 01:07:15,840
had the internet and all these
ideas. And so now that has to be

1130
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,770
thinned out, they've got to go
away. And luckily, we bring in

1131
01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:25,530
something called AI, which, even
though it's sad, that will be

1132
01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:29,010
your news, your news, actually
not your opinion and your

1133
01:07:29,010 --> 01:07:35,460
insight and your analysis. But
news will just be brought to you

1134
01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:38,340
by AI. That's why the getting
rid of a whole bunch of people.

1135
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,840
And I think when it comes to AI,
we had an event take place,

1136
01:07:43,050 --> 01:07:49,230
something is on the horizon. But
I have said that this AI stuff.

1137
01:07:49,860 --> 01:07:53,790
The way it's going to be used is
something's going to come out.

1138
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:57,540
And we need to flood the market
with thinking like, oh, that's

1139
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:02,160
just AI. Yeah, no, that's not
real. That's just AI. And this

1140
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,260
is part of the Swift up.

1141
01:08:04,590 --> 01:08:08,790
Unknown: Now a disturbing trend
on social media struck one of

1142
01:08:08,790 --> 01:08:13,560
the world's biggest stars this
week, when explicit AI generated

1143
01:08:13,590 --> 01:08:18,030
images of Taylor Swift began to
circulate on X, formerly known

1144
01:08:18,060 --> 01:08:22,890
as Twitter. Taylor Swift's fans,
or Swifties, rallied to flood

1145
01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:26,100
the platform with posts and
drown out the so called Deep

1146
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,940
fakes. The incident has led to
renewed calls by politicians in

1147
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:34,350
the US for legislation to clamp
down on these AI generated fakes

1148
01:08:34,410 --> 01:08:34,890
now,

1149
01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:39,930
Adam Curry: so first of all, its
ex now, Elon Musk is great at

1150
01:08:39,930 --> 01:08:42,060
making money from the
government. So I wouldn't put it

1151
01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:45,690
past him that somehow he's
involved in this up. But all of

1152
01:08:45,690 --> 01:08:49,620
a sudden off Taylor Swift,
there's pornographic images of

1153
01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:54,600
her head on porn bodies. And I
did some research. This has been

1154
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,150
going on for a long time we've
titled by the

1155
01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:59,850
John C Dvorak: way, yes, for a
long you could do this with

1156
01:08:59,850 --> 01:09:05,580
Photoshop, anytime you want. I
mean, it's maybe not as fast as

1157
01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:09,540
the AI is a little quicker. If
it works. If it doesn't work.

1158
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:13,800
It's not. But this has been it's
just the invention of Photoshop,

1159
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,590
or even before that, when with
guys who knew how to do photo

1160
01:09:16,590 --> 01:09:20,280
editing by cutting, cutting the
low head out of a photo itself

1161
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,120
and gluing something. This is
nothing new. This is nothing new

1162
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,210
Adam Curry: at all. No, but what
I think is happening and I have

1163
01:09:27,210 --> 01:09:33,660
a piece of John Claude Van Damme
Pierre with the question that

1164
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:36,810
was asked about this all because
the White House is concerned,

1165
01:09:36,900 --> 01:09:39,810
why is the White House
concerned? Something's coming

1166
01:09:39,810 --> 01:09:44,520
out. It's going to be some nasty
images from somebody who needs

1167
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,930
to be able to say that's a I
listen to the setup question.

1168
01:09:49,050 --> 01:09:50,670
Listen to her answer it there

1169
01:09:50,669 --> 01:09:53,579
Unknown: were fake sexually
explicit images of Taylor Swift

1170
01:09:53,609 --> 01:09:57,479
all over social media this week,
like generated by AI. How

1171
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,019
concerned is the White House
about the news His use of this

1172
01:10:01,019 --> 01:10:03,779
kind of technology? And does the
White House want to see Congress

1173
01:10:03,779 --> 01:10:06,959
move forward on legislation that
would make sharing posting

1174
01:10:06,959 --> 01:10:08,819
images like that a federal
crime?

1175
01:10:08,970 --> 01:10:11,430
So I'm glad you asked that
question, because it is.

1176
01:10:12,990 --> 01:10:15,390
Adam Curry: First of all, all
these questions are approved

1177
01:10:15,390 --> 01:10:20,040
before the press conference. So
for jumping over Claude Van

1178
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,670
Damme to say, I'm glad you asked
that question. This was a setup

1179
01:10:23,670 --> 01:10:28,080
question. This was known she
knew this question was coming.

1180
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:32,430
It was probably could you please
ask about about the images?

1181
01:10:33,150 --> 01:10:35,760
John C Dvorak: And she could
have written a question for all

1182
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,690
we know. And

1183
01:10:36,690 --> 01:10:40,110
Adam Curry: so all of a sudden,
now we need legislation against

1184
01:10:40,110 --> 01:10:43,380
this. No, no, no, something's
coming. That is going to be

1185
01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:46,620
highly embarrassing to somebody
important legislation

1186
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,410
Unknown: that would make sharing
posting images like that a

1187
01:10:49,410 --> 01:10:50,730
federal crime. So

1188
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,740
I'm glad you asked that
question. Because it is

1189
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:57,840
alarming. We are alarmed by the
reports of this the circulation

1190
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,590
of images that you just laid out
a false images to be more exact,

1191
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:04,650
and it is alarming. So while
social media companies make

1192
01:11:04,980 --> 01:11:05,730
images,

1193
01:11:05,790 --> 01:11:09,810
Adam Curry: there's images of me
holding up an Israeli flag.

1194
01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:12,810
Yeah, oh, it's alarming, their
own

1195
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:15,900
Unknown: independent decisions
about content management, we

1196
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:18,420
believe they have an important
role to play in enforcing

1197
01:11:18,450 --> 01:11:21,030
enforcing their own rules to
prevent the spread of

1198
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:24,990
misinformation, and non
consensual, intimate imagery of

1199
01:11:24,990 --> 01:11:29,280
real people. Sadly, sadly,
though, too often, we know that

1200
01:11:29,310 --> 01:11:31,890
lacks enforcement
disproportionately impacts

1201
01:11:31,950 --> 01:11:36,450
women, and they also impact
girls, sadly, who are whelming

1202
01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:39,510
targets the overwhelming targets
of unlined, harassed harassment

1203
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:42,690
and also abuse. So the President
is committed, as you know, to

1204
01:11:42,690 --> 01:11:46,980
ensuring we reduce the risk of
gender generative AI producing

1205
01:11:46,980 --> 01:11:50,640
genders like through his latest
executive order that we

1206
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,640
announced just just in the fall
of last year.

1207
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:55,380
Adam Curry: She's reading the
script here.

1208
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:58,590
Unknown: So this problem is not
new. And it's one that the Biden

1209
01:11:58,590 --> 01:12:01,830
Harris administration has been
prioritizing since day one, we

1210
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:05,460
have taken this very seriously.
Again, this is alarming to us.

1211
01:12:05,850 --> 01:12:09,000
You as you know, he launched a
task force to address online

1212
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,330
harassment and abuse. He did
that just this fall, the

1213
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:15,510
Department of Justice launched
the first national 24/7 helpline

1214
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:19,140
for survivors of image based
sexual abuse. And so our

1215
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:22,800
commitment, and that we will
continue to do and continue to

1216
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,000
take action, and make sure that
we continue to work on this. And

1217
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,740
again, this is very alarming and
we're gonna do what we can to

1218
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:32,550
deal with this issue.

1219
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:36,600
Adam Curry: This has been going
on for decades. This is not new

1220
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,410
and alarming. That first
something at who could it be?

1221
01:12:41,130 --> 01:12:45,600
I'm thinking Kamala, well, there
may be pictures of Kamala.

1222
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,550
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Because
she was notorious actually for

1223
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:54,840
having heels. Yeah, I can even
name the guy that should be seen

1224
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,140
with

1225
01:12:55,170 --> 01:12:57,480
Adam Curry: heels. Hi, Harris.
We all know her nickname in

1226
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:58,620
Washington, DC.

1227
01:12:59,190 --> 01:13:02,400
John C Dvorak: So this, I just
want to point out that when she

1228
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,930
says, if you notice in the past
that you ever heard, I think

1229
01:13:06,930 --> 01:13:10,290
when Kelly McInerney, whoever
was running the trumpet when she

1230
01:13:10,290 --> 01:13:15,120
was a press secretary. She never
said the Trump pence presidency.

1231
01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:19,860
No. I don't remember anyone
saying the Obama Biden

1232
01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:24,720
presidency except Biden when he
was running. Yep. But this woman

1233
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:29,340
consistently says the Biden
Harris presidency and she did it

1234
01:13:29,340 --> 01:13:33,600
in that clip. That's what tipped
me off. And so she said that

1235
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:37,680
yes, that would be the lead. So
she so they got Harris mentioned

1236
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,250
a lot, maybe could be some
family picture. Now. Harris

1237
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:44,520
Harris would be the because you
know, they I think they still

1238
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,830
would like to run her or maybe
it's a way to get her off the

1239
01:13:46,830 --> 01:13:51,900
track. Or maybe there's a lot of
possibilities here you could do.

1240
01:13:51,930 --> 01:13:52,080
I'll

1241
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,150
Adam Curry: be honest with you.
The first thought was, oh, my

1242
01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:58,260
god, they've got pictures of Big
Mike. We need to say that's AI.

1243
01:13:58,290 --> 01:14:02,970
Now that was my first thought.
But because that would be where

1244
01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:11,100
you need it. But then I got this
clip of Larry elder on the poor

1245
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:15,810
boy show, and he says no to Big
Mike. He says Kamala all the

1246
01:14:15,810 --> 01:14:16,740
way. Here's

1247
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:21,630
Unknown: the deal. The reason
Joe Biden is not going anywhere,

1248
01:14:21,630 --> 01:14:24,300
if you can fog up a mirror is
because the next person in line,

1249
01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:28,680
it's not it's not Gavin Newsom.
It's not Michelle Obama. It's a

1250
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,130
Kamala Harris. She wants to be
president. I read a lot of black

1251
01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:35,310
media, and they feel she's being
picked on for her so called

1252
01:14:35,310 --> 01:14:38,070
cackle. They feel that Joe Biden
has given her thankless tasks

1253
01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:40,170
like getting to the bottom of
the root causes of illegal

1254
01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:43,860
immigration. And black women are
the most loyal part of the

1255
01:14:43,860 --> 01:14:46,380
Democratic base, and they will
be furious if she's dropped

1256
01:14:46,380 --> 01:14:49,740
kicked for anybody other than
Michelle Obama. And Michelle

1257
01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:52,320
Obama does not want the job. She
wants to be loved. She wants to

1258
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,660
be liked. There's nothing that's
always suggest to me that she

1259
01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:56,400
has the temperament does not
have the temperament to be a

1260
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,560
politician. She complained for
eight years about what it was

1261
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,170
like to be in a fishbowl of
being first Lady, what makes you

1262
01:15:01,170 --> 01:15:04,230
think she wants to be a
politician and if Michelle

1263
01:15:04,710 --> 01:15:07,530
Kamala Harris have dropped kick
for some white dudes like Mayor

1264
01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:10,500
Pete or Gavin Newsom, they will
be livid. They won't vote

1265
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:12,360
Republican, they just won't vote
at all, thereby guaranteeing

1266
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,460
whoever we nominate will win.
They won't do that, that you

1267
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:17,760
live with the identity race
card, you die with it. And

1268
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,380
that's why she's there. She got
picked because she's a black

1269
01:15:19,380 --> 01:15:21,780
female. She's still a black
female by the way she wanted to

1270
01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:25,050
run for president she did run
and tell her to step aside from

1271
01:15:25,050 --> 01:15:27,900
Michelle Obama, even if Michelle
Obama announced but what she

1272
01:15:28,050 --> 01:15:31,650
Kamala ran for da of San
Francisco she got elected. She

1273
01:15:31,650 --> 01:15:34,320
ran for ag of California got
elected and reelected she ran

1274
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,650
for US Senator got elected and
she's on the card with with Joe

1275
01:15:37,650 --> 01:15:40,080
Biden got elected she's never
last election when she's been on

1276
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,690
the ticket. Nothing and there's
nothing that all that suggests

1277
01:15:42,690 --> 01:15:44,970
to me that she's going oh my
god, I'm incompetent. I'll step

1278
01:15:44,970 --> 01:15:46,950
aside for Michelle Obama. Oh my
god. I mean, crap. Let's step

1279
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:48,450
aside for Gavin Newsom. Not
going to happen.

1280
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,780
Adam Curry: God like galeri
elders theory there.

1281
01:15:52,290 --> 01:15:53,640
John C Dvorak: Yep. I think he
nailed it.

1282
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:58,140
Adam Curry: And then add to that
this women, particularly women,

1283
01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:01,650
girls, you know, camo, I think
there's a picture out there.

1284
01:16:03,390 --> 01:16:06,660
There's a horse more than one
probably they've got to say this

1285
01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:07,440
is AI.

1286
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,580
John C Dvorak: Because it's just
fully Brown. As to why

1287
01:16:11,580 --> 01:16:14,580
Adam Curry: would Willie Brown
sabotaged? Does he have reason?

1288
01:16:15,390 --> 01:16:18,480
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
he would. Although maybe he

1289
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:18,990
would.

1290
01:16:20,130 --> 01:16:22,410
Adam Curry: I think it's out
there. This This seems Willie

1291
01:16:22,410 --> 01:16:22,740
Brown

1292
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:27,120
John C Dvorak: is a male. Yeah.
And he would probably think that

1293
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,500
Gavin Newsom be a better
president and Camelon he knew

1294
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:34,020
that he had a lot to do with
cannon mullahs getting up to

1295
01:16:34,020 --> 01:16:34,950
worship guys. He's

1296
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:37,440
Adam Curry: still alive Willie
Brown boy. Yeah, he's

1297
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:38,760
John C Dvorak: still floats
around every once in a while you

1298
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:44,580
hear from him. He may even have
a podcast but Willie Brown would

1299
01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:51,390
be I wouldn't put it past him.
He was the probably one of the

1300
01:16:51,390 --> 01:16:54,600
greatest politicians in the
history of California Black, a

1301
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,930
black guy who is just could make
everything happen.

1302
01:16:59,970 --> 01:17:05,520
Adam Curry: Just one last story
on AI I'm a big George Carlin

1303
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,960
fan such a big fan that you even
made a compilation for me

1304
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,720
because you have it. You have
almost everything. George Carlin

1305
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,890
it was neatly organized. You
sent it on a on a thumb drive

1306
01:17:16,890 --> 01:17:20,460
for me. Every I mean, yeah. You

1307
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:22,110
John C Dvorak: just have his
discography. I

1308
01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:25,110
Adam Curry: mean, you have all
his stuff. It's great. It's

1309
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:28,080
great. It's hard to get as
beautiful. It's a very, very

1310
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:34,020
nice collection. And so George
Carlin's estate sued this dude

1311
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:40,410
over so called comedy special.
That was aI generated. And

1312
01:17:40,410 --> 01:17:43,440
people sent this to me like, Oh,
you think AI is no good. Look at

1313
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:46,770
it. This. It wrote the script. I
don't I don't think it wrote the

1314
01:17:46,770 --> 01:17:52,080
script. It did the voice. And
when I looked at it, I was like,

1315
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:58,020
no, no comedy comm can only come
from humans. It can't come from

1316
01:17:58,050 --> 01:18:06,240
AI and I want to play 50 seconds
of this comedy special. Maybe if

1317
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,360
he had played it in front of a
live audience and had real

1318
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,940
laughter? Which there probably
wouldn't have been much I'll

1319
01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:14,970
John C Dvorak: say, so I haven't
seen this. So this entire thing.

1320
01:18:15,150 --> 01:18:19,350
Oh, good. I know about it. And I
just have never followed up

1321
01:18:19,380 --> 01:18:23,490
fears. I know what it's gonna
be. It's interesting. 50

1322
01:18:23,490 --> 01:18:24,000
seconds.

1323
01:18:24,030 --> 01:18:26,490
Unknown: There's one line of
work that is most threatened by

1324
01:18:26,490 --> 01:18:30,540
AI one job that is most likely
to be completely erased because

1325
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:31,860
of artificial intelligence.

1326
01:18:33,870 --> 01:18:35,820
Adam Curry: I know it doesn't
even well, they have a little

1327
01:18:35,820 --> 01:18:37,590
bit of it. But now it doesn't
really mean

1328
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:40,830
John C Dvorak: I can hear it
yet. But it sounds like somebody

1329
01:18:40,830 --> 01:18:44,670
else that's just coincidently
sounds a little bit like Carlin

1330
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:46,440
is what it sounds like
intelligence.

1331
01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:52,440
Unknown: Stand up comedy. I know
what all the stand up comics

1332
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:55,650
across the globe are saying
right now. I'm an artist and my

1333
01:18:55,650 --> 01:18:58,950
art form is too creative, too
nuanced, too subtle to be

1334
01:18:58,950 --> 01:19:02,550
replicated by machine. No
computer program can tell a fart

1335
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:08,790
joke as good as me. Well, let's
see. This is just off the top of

1336
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:12,510
my artificially intelligent
head. A fart was in the middle

1337
01:19:12,510 --> 01:19:15,570
of a very nasty divorce. So she
went to her sister's house and

1338
01:19:15,570 --> 01:19:18,450
she asked her sister, do you
think I'm doing the right thing

1339
01:19:18,450 --> 01:19:21,780
by getting divorced? And her
sister said he's been holding

1340
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:24,330
you back for too long. You have
to leave that asshole

1341
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,530
Adam Curry: your your votes,
please.

1342
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,400
John C Dvorak: Holy moly. That's
terrible. And by the way, Carla

1343
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,330
wasn't a joke teller. No, I
mean, maybe early in his career.

1344
01:19:39,330 --> 01:19:43,950
He did some jokes. But so that's
a joke, literally. I don't know

1345
01:19:43,950 --> 01:19:48,390
how the AI came up with that
idea. And he was observational

1346
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:54,030
comic, very much different and
also used to get into the weeds

1347
01:19:54,030 --> 01:19:59,310
with the with vocabulary. And he
didn't sell anything like him. I

1348
01:19:59,310 --> 01:19:59,700
know

1349
01:20:00,870 --> 01:20:02,940
Adam Curry: But when it first
came out people said oh this is

1350
01:20:02,940 --> 01:20:08,640
great and I watched a little
thing I mean, it had within 20

1351
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,900
minutes you know there's certain

1352
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:12,330
John C Dvorak: that can't
laughters do not even close to

1353
01:20:12,330 --> 01:20:14,310
being that well done really
kills

1354
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:19,710
Adam Curry: it that really kills
it does. So, I still say that

1355
01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:30,300
the best is when AI is used by
comedians. And when we have

1356
01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:35,400
funny stuff that they make
funny, funny videos Funny, funny

1357
01:20:35,460 --> 01:20:41,850
memes that dare I say it blew by
No, no, no crazy. Go crazy.

1358
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,950
John C Dvorak: Well, a creative
people get a hold of AI they

1359
01:20:43,950 --> 01:20:47,340
Adam Curry: can do things. Yeah,
it's a tool for creative people.

1360
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:47,820
Sure,

1361
01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:50,280
John C Dvorak: yes. Why comic
strip blogger all of a sudden is

1362
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,150
a great artist.

1363
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:57,720
Adam Curry: He's certainly
trying he's never quite it's

1364
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:58,230
sometimes it

1365
01:20:58,230 --> 01:21:00,540
John C Dvorak: hisses yet but
he's gone from his like is kind

1366
01:21:00,540 --> 01:21:06,090
of interesting would be very
soulful material that he used to

1367
01:21:06,090 --> 01:21:11,190
do to stuff that is extremely
slick. It's just this like as

1368
01:21:11,190 --> 01:21:15,120
too slick. It's it was it was,
it was a lot of steps to slick

1369
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:21,120
but it's a an interesting change
of style. That is noteworthy to

1370
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:21,540
me.

1371
01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:25,140
Adam Curry: I would like to
remind people at this at this

1372
01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:30,270
moment, that this is a value for
value podcast, I almost almost

1373
01:21:30,270 --> 01:21:33,900
brought the Executive Associate
Executive Producer segment out

1374
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:38,730
forward to this hour. But then
we had one donor come in to save

1375
01:21:38,730 --> 01:21:43,260
the day. But I do want to remind
you that while you're enjoying

1376
01:21:43,260 --> 01:21:47,670
this, and while you slowly tune
out over time, at the end, we do

1377
01:21:47,670 --> 01:21:50,580
thank everybody give them their
due credits, we bring Knights

1378
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:55,170
and Dames onto the stage and
bring them to the roundtable. We

1379
01:21:55,170 --> 01:21:58,170
talk about our meetups, there's
a lot going on with the no

1380
01:21:58,170 --> 01:22:02,070
agenda, nation. And just
reminder that if you get any

1381
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:05,250
value out of this, if anything
in this first hour and 22

1382
01:22:05,250 --> 01:22:08,700
minutes was a value to you, that
we would like you to return that

1383
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:14,190
with your time, talent or
treasure. And some a good

1384
01:22:14,190 --> 01:22:20,160
example of time and talent was
boots on the ground. And I was

1385
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,150
not aware of this. Tracy sent me
a note says Adam, a number of my

1386
01:22:24,150 --> 01:22:31,560
family members saw a show on PBS
called Nazi Town USA. Which I

1387
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,350
was unaware of it came out a
couple days ago.

1388
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,540
John C Dvorak: Is the
masterpiece of this is the

1389
01:22:36,570 --> 01:22:41,040
American experience show.
wounds. Yes, yes, this show I

1390
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,650
would I didn't take any
exception route. But I could

1391
01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:43,890
have

1392
01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:45,900
Adam Curry: private training, we
have a trailer.

1393
01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:50,520
John C Dvorak: Well, let me just
make your you can go do your

1394
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:50,880
thing.

1395
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:54,270
Adam Curry: Sure. I'll be over
here. Just call me when you

1396
01:22:54,270 --> 01:22:54,630
read.

1397
01:22:56,310 --> 01:23:01,230
John C Dvorak: This thing had so
much innuendo in it about Trump,

1398
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:05,430
the usage of the word
insurrection, the use of it was

1399
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:09,210
one thing after another, they
were trying the best they could

1400
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:14,640
the writers, I guarantee it to
associate the German Boond

1401
01:23:14,670 --> 01:23:19,350
movement from the early 1930s.
And the fact that they wanted to

1402
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:22,920
take over the country and run
it. Some is a little sketchy.

1403
01:23:23,490 --> 01:23:27,030
But they wanted to take it over
and turn the country into a

1404
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:34,680
Nazi, you know, stronghold,
fascist country was so you could

1405
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,200
just you could take I mean, it's
good, by the way. It's

1406
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,950
excellent. Information is very
interesting and entertaining.

1407
01:23:41,190 --> 01:23:46,230
But the idea there was a it was
pretty propagandistic. And I was

1408
01:23:46,230 --> 01:23:47,850
a little offended by that part
of it.

1409
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:51,870
Adam Curry: So Tracy says that
my fam her, his or her family

1410
01:23:51,870 --> 01:23:56,190
members were saying this
documentary is exactly what

1411
01:23:56,190 --> 01:24:00,270
Trump is planning. It's all
about the white Christian right

1412
01:24:00,270 --> 01:24:04,380
taking over the country turning
it over to a new dictator. And

1413
01:24:04,410 --> 01:24:10,200
we should mention that there was
a very, quite a substantial

1414
01:24:10,230 --> 01:24:16,170
Nazi, fascist Nazi movement in
the United States. There was

1415
01:24:17,460 --> 01:24:22,590
really when it comes to what's
the term I'm looking for. We had

1416
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:27,570
we had best looking baby contest
at fairs, eugenics, it was the

1417
01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:28,260
eugenics

1418
01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:30,690
John C Dvorak: eugenics, it was
like what we were the eugenics

1419
01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:31,650
kings, it

1420
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:35,550
Adam Curry: Hitler sent fan mail
to the United States, you

1421
01:24:35,550 --> 01:24:40,530
Genesis said, Wow, you guys have
really got a good idea here. And

1422
01:24:40,530 --> 01:24:43,860
he loved it until he started
gassing Jews and then the

1423
01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:48,870
eugenicist in America went oh,
let's, let's take let's simmer

1424
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:49,590
down a little bit

1425
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:51,240
John C Dvorak: your names to
something else planned

1426
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:56,010
Adam Curry: parenthood which
Margaret Sanger she was a part

1427
01:24:56,010 --> 01:25:00,300
of the Eugenics Society of
America. I know you You don't

1428
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:03,420
like that? You don't think I'm
not gonna get into

1429
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,290
John C Dvorak: it she her main
focus was birth control period.

1430
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,000
Yeah. Not breathing.

1431
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:12,300
Adam Curry: All right. But
there, so there was definitely a

1432
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:17,580
huge, so if anything for sure.
The jump there was a big huge

1433
01:25:17,580 --> 01:25:21,000
Genesis movement in America and
we backtracked on that when we

1434
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,790
saw what could happen with it,
what could be done with it, we

1435
01:25:23,790 --> 01:25:26,610
sterilize black girls, there's
all kinds of horrible things

1436
01:25:26,610 --> 01:25:32,220
that we did. This is not this is
not what Trump is doing. I'm

1437
01:25:32,220 --> 01:25:34,620
going to play this is very cool,

1438
01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:38,640
John C Dvorak: by the way that
what you just talked about? That

1439
01:25:39,180 --> 01:25:42,600
the idea that oh, this is what
Trump wants to do. That was the

1440
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,550
whole reason for this American
Experience show was to Yes,

1441
01:25:47,580 --> 01:25:51,420
twist the minds of the viewers.
Yes. And I find it offensive. I

1442
01:25:51,420 --> 01:25:53,850
thought that the information was
good, but I was familiar with it

1443
01:25:53,850 --> 01:25:57,360
to begin with. What I found a
way they presented it to be

1444
01:25:57,450 --> 01:26:01,320
obvious propaganda, anti Trump
prop, anti Trump, anti

1445
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,840
Republican, anti Christian
propaganda.

1446
01:26:04,170 --> 01:26:06,810
Adam Curry: And I'm just waiting
for the following question to

1447
01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:10,500
pop up again. Because we've
heard it in the past, I tried to

1448
01:26:10,530 --> 01:26:14,280
try to find a clip, but it
hasn't occurred yet. If you

1449
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,310
could get in a time machine and
go back and kill baby Hitler,

1450
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:20,970
would you do it? This is the
kind of stuff you're going to

1451
01:26:20,970 --> 01:26:26,640
hear. IE, hey, if you could kill
Trump before it becomes Hitler,

1452
01:26:26,670 --> 01:26:29,340
would you do it? You watch
that's all coming.

1453
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:37,470
Unknown: The 1930s There were
these camps all across the

1454
01:26:37,470 --> 01:26:38,400
country. And they

1455
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,710
looked normal. But it wasn't.

1456
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:43,290
It was a Nazi camp.

1457
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:47,100
Adam Curry: thing we have to

1458
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,800
Unknown: go the depths of the
depression, a great many

1459
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,990
Americans started to ask
themselves whether the American

1460
01:26:54,990 --> 01:26:58,320
experiment was failing. Lots of
Americans thought that

1461
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,680
capitalism democracy they were
done for it and something else

1462
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,690
was going to have to take its
place.

1463
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:04,980
Membership gotten

1464
01:27:04,980 --> 01:27:12,270
the Friends of the new Germany,
the American and the North. us

1465
01:27:12,270 --> 01:27:16,050
for this, this might seem
fascist ideology tapped into

1466
01:27:16,050 --> 01:27:19,680
some dark realities in America.
I'd like to tell you a few words

1467
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,570
about our purpose Nice.

1468
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,250
Adam Curry: Very hard to hear
any have imagined that I know. I

1469
01:27:26,250 --> 01:27:29,370
know. It gets a little better at
the end that's that comes

1470
01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:31,800
straight from the PBS website.
It's almost done. It's going to

1471
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,860
build a distinctively American
version of Nazis,

1472
01:27:35,580 --> 01:27:38,520
Unknown: or asterik power or
after influences within the very

1473
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,020
fabric of the United States.

1474
01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:42,810
They were literally holding
parades in front of Jewish

1475
01:27:42,810 --> 01:27:49,110
people's homes. There's no such
thing as foreign fascism.

1476
01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:52,680
Fascism is always homegrown.

1477
01:27:56,490 --> 01:27:59,400
Adam Curry: And what we have
now, if Funny enough, funny

1478
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:03,600
enough in the United States,
what we have now is we have Jews

1479
01:28:03,630 --> 01:28:09,450
very, very worried. I was
talking to the girl who stayed

1480
01:28:09,450 --> 01:28:14,940
at our house to take care of
Phoebe, American Jew, and she

1481
01:28:14,940 --> 01:28:18,600
says I'm a little afraid,
warranted or not. I'm a little

1482
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,560
afraid to wear my Star of David
out in public. I'm worried when

1483
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:31,500
I get into an Uber and it might
be a Muslim. Or might be but the

1484
01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:34,590
funny thing is, that's coming
from

1485
01:28:36,150 --> 01:28:38,400
John C Dvorak: this media
spinning it up. Yeah. You got

1486
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,090
spun up.

1487
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,540
Adam Curry: Yes. Very. I
definitely tried to spin her

1488
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:47,070
down a little bit. And, you
know, and so what they're

1489
01:28:47,070 --> 01:28:49,830
bringing in now is I'll make
sure you know that it's Trump is

1490
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:51,840
Trump is Trump is Trump is
Trump.

1491
01:28:52,830 --> 01:28:57,090
John C Dvorak: Was his Jewish
daughter. Yes. Jewish son in

1492
01:28:57,090 --> 01:28:58,980
law. He may be Jewish. We don't
know.

1493
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,950
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had it was
actually kind of funny.

1494
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:04,890
John C Dvorak: But okay. Yeah,
he's hates Jews somehow.

1495
01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:10,770
Adam Curry: Yeah. The so the
International Court of Justice

1496
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,790
by the night I got a clip. I
have a clip to you. Once you

1497
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:18,090
play your clip, I have a clip of
Kirby which I think is pretty

1498
01:29:18,090 --> 01:29:18,900
funny. Yeah, I

1499
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:20,250
John C Dvorak: do not have
Kirby. Okay.

1500
01:29:20,250 --> 01:29:21,750
Adam Curry: What do you have?
Well, that's

1501
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:25,200
John C Dvorak: a good question I
brought condemned Israel. Would

1502
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,990
that be the one that would sound
like it? Yeah, Qatar

1503
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:31,170
Unknown: and Saudi Arabia have
welcomed a ruling issued by the

1504
01:29:31,170 --> 01:29:34,680
International Court of Justice
on South Africa's genocide case

1505
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,520
against Israel, which orders
Israel to prevent genocide acts

1506
01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:42,300
in the Gaza Strip. The Qatari
Foreign Ministry said the ruling

1507
01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:44,790
serves as a stark
acknowledgement of the grave

1508
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:48,480
threat of genocide looming over
the Palestinian population in

1509
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:52,020
Gaza. The Saudi Foreign Ministry
reaffirmed the rejection of

1510
01:29:52,020 --> 01:29:56,010
Israel's illegal occupation of
Palestinian territories and as

1511
01:29:56,010 --> 01:29:59,820
violations of the UN Convention
on the Prevention and Punishment

1512
01:29:59,820 --> 01:30:03,420
of Crime of Genocide. Meanwhile,
the Palestinian Prime Minister

1513
01:30:03,420 --> 01:30:07,230
of Mohammed shtayyeh said he
hopes the ruling against Israel

1514
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:10,620
would include an immediate
ceasefire given the severe

1515
01:30:10,620 --> 01:30:12,480
suffering of Gaza residents.

1516
01:30:12,630 --> 01:30:16,320
states now have a clear legal
obligations to stop Israel's

1517
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,850
genocidal war on the Palestinian
people in Gaza and to make sure

1518
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,050
that they are not complicit. the
ICJ order is an important

1519
01:30:25,050 --> 01:30:29,190
reminder that no state is above
the law. It should serve as a

1520
01:30:29,190 --> 01:30:33,510
wake up call for Israel and
actors who enabled its

1521
01:30:33,540 --> 01:30:35,910
entrenched impunity. Alright,

1522
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:39,390
Adam Curry: this is a problem
because this justifies the

1523
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:46,080
genocide Joe moniker. And Kirby
was sent out to defend genocide

1524
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:46,590
Joe,

1525
01:30:46,650 --> 01:30:48,630
John C Dvorak: by the way, that
report I should mention came

1526
01:30:48,630 --> 01:30:50,220
from China dies okay,

1527
01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:54,210
Adam Curry: this report comes
from TRT I think, which is even

1528
01:30:54,210 --> 01:30:58,530
more fun. Hey, Kirby, by the
way, have you noticed he's

1529
01:30:58,530 --> 01:30:59,790
wearing dog tags

1530
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:06,330
John C Dvorak: but over over
everything over his tie over his

1531
01:31:06,330 --> 01:31:11,070
tie, break ice Fred getting shut
down? He needs to be identified

1532
01:31:11,070 --> 01:31:13,740
if he's if he's killed, what
what is the deal there? What

1533
01:31:13,740 --> 01:31:16,470
Adam Curry: do you think kind of
the, you know, he has a chain,

1534
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:19,740
I've seen this. He has a chain
that you know, the one you'd

1535
01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:23,940
have a, you know, your ID on.
And he has a dog tags, you know,

1536
01:31:23,940 --> 01:31:27,030
identical you break one half
offs, and that back to the next

1537
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:31,050
of kin. And he's wearing those
dog tie. I find that to be very

1538
01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:32,640
bizarre. Anyway, you

1539
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:37,590
John C Dvorak: know what it is?
No. It's the dog tag of Lloyd

1540
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:42,780
Austin. It's a memorial. Maybe
Kirby's just a dog,

1541
01:31:42,990 --> 01:31:47,640
memorializing Lloyd Austin, who
is yet to be seen. And he's back

1542
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:55,560
in the hospital. My
interpretation? Well, we'll

1543
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,860
Adam Curry: see what happens.
Here is a question that came in

1544
01:31:58,860 --> 01:32:01,260
regarding genocide. Joe,

1545
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,710
Unknown: thank you. The fact of
the matter is the ICJ has not

1546
01:32:04,740 --> 01:32:09,600
dismissed the allegations
against Israel with respect to

1547
01:32:09,630 --> 01:32:12,810
genocide. They do believe that
those allegations warrant

1548
01:32:12,810 --> 01:32:17,040
further investigation and
deliberation. So do you stand by

1549
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,910
the words that you use earlier
this month, to characterize

1550
01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:24,060
those allegations? That they're
meritless, counterproductive and

1551
01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:27,270
completely without any basis, in
fact, whatsoever? And what are

1552
01:32:27,270 --> 01:32:31,020
you basing that off of if the
UN's top court believes that

1553
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:34,620
there is a plausible risk of
genocide, they're specifically

1554
01:32:34,620 --> 01:32:37,260
directing Israel to prevent and
punish the direct and public

1555
01:32:37,260 --> 01:32:38,610
incitement to commit genocide?

1556
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,250
We have no indication that
that's that that's going on

1557
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:44,910
Sabrina. We have no evidence
that they are deliberately

1558
01:32:44,910 --> 01:32:48,180
trying to exterminate the people
of Gaza. Well, the

1559
01:32:48,270 --> 01:32:52,020
ICJ specifically cited
inflammatory statements that

1560
01:32:52,020 --> 01:32:56,160
were made by Israel's defense
minister, referring to human and

1561
01:32:56,190 --> 01:32:59,610
non human animals, the President
of Israel, saying the entire

1562
01:32:59,610 --> 01:33:03,390
population of Gaza is
responsible. Do not see that as

1563
01:33:03,390 --> 01:33:04,950
risking incitement. Comments

1564
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:08,820
like that are certainly also
counterproductive, and

1565
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:12,060
unhelpful. No question about
that. But we haven't seen

1566
01:33:12,060 --> 01:33:15,360
indications that the Israeli
Defense Forces are getting up

1567
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,430
out of the rack every day
putting their boots on the floor

1568
01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:20,310
and saying that they're designed
their whole effort is to go

1569
01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:23,250
exterminate the Palestinian
people. They're trying to

1570
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,700
eliminate the threat that Hamas
poses. I want to be very clear,

1571
01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:28,680
and I know I've said this a
million times. And you're all

1572
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,620
probably sick of me following up
on this, but that doesn't mean

1573
01:33:31,620 --> 01:33:35,070
that we excuse any single
innocent life loss. The right

1574
01:33:35,070 --> 01:33:38,460
number of civilian casualties is
zero. But there's no indication

1575
01:33:38,460 --> 01:33:43,320
that we've seen that validates a
claim of genocidal intent or

1576
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,540
action by the Israeli Defense
Forces.

1577
01:33:45,690 --> 01:33:48,870
Adam Curry: There's no evidence
of genocide he says there's no

1578
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:52,770
evidence they don't get their
boots on every day and said

1579
01:33:52,770 --> 01:33:54,900
we're gonna kill us and
Palestinians that would be

1580
01:33:54,900 --> 01:33:57,720
genocide. This is not generally
what is the definition of

1581
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:58,320
genocide?

1582
01:33:58,980 --> 01:34:00,480
John C Dvorak: Let's look it up.
Okay,

1583
01:34:00,540 --> 01:34:07,590
Adam Curry: let's course the
book of knowledge is very varied

1584
01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:08,610
these days.

1585
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,820
John C Dvorak: interested? How

1586
01:34:11,820 --> 01:34:14,400
Adam Curry: about the Holocaust
Memorial? Should we take it from

1587
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,880
them? No, no.

1588
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,710
John C Dvorak: Britannica.
Britannica. Yeah, I think it's

1589
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:24,480
more objective. Okay,

1590
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:28,260
Adam Curry: Britannica says?
Genocide, the deliberate and

1591
01:34:28,260 --> 01:34:31,110
systematic destruction of a
group of people because of their

1592
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:34,680
ethnicity, nationality,
religion, or race.

1593
01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:40,290
John C Dvorak: You will here's
the basic. here's the rub. I

1594
01:34:40,290 --> 01:34:43,410
think this is maybe from Oxford.
This from Oxford. Yeah. The

1595
01:34:43,410 --> 01:34:45,480
deliberate killing of a large
number of people from a

1596
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:49,320
particular nation or ethnic
group with the aim of destroying

1597
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:54,270
that nation or group gets pretty
close. Well, if you do they

1598
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:56,070
definitely want to destroy
something. Yeah, they

1599
01:34:56,070 --> 01:35:00,330
Adam Curry: want to get rid of
it. For sure. Well, anyway, By

1600
01:35:00,330 --> 01:35:04,800
John C Dvorak: the way, this way
I have to read this. The

1601
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,430
original the origin of the term
genocide. The word genocide did

1602
01:35:08,430 --> 01:35:11,940
not exist prior to 1944.

1603
01:35:12,090 --> 01:35:12,900
Adam Curry: Oh really?

1604
01:35:13,650 --> 01:35:16,230
John C Dvorak: It's a very
specific term coined by a Polish

1605
01:35:16,230 --> 01:35:21,420
Jewish lawyer named Raphael
Lemkin. It's a new word. It's a

1606
01:35:21,630 --> 01:35:23,700
relatively new word. Oh, that's

1607
01:35:23,700 --> 01:35:26,040
Adam Curry: interesting. What is
the root of the word is it from

1608
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,060
Greek or something?

1609
01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:31,980
John C Dvorak: What's the
etymology look and see

1610
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:33,720
Adam Curry: I have said word.

1611
01:35:36,420 --> 01:35:38,250
John C Dvorak: Lawyers are
saying here what the animal

1612
01:35:38,250 --> 01:35:39,000
ology is

1613
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,390
Adam Curry: no. Well, we've sent
in our negotiator

1614
01:35:43,410 --> 01:35:46,200
John C Dvorak: here to way way
way sorry. He formed the word

1615
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:50,070
genocide by combining Gino from
the Greek word for race or tribe

1616
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:52,470
with side from Latin word for
killing.

1617
01:35:52,650 --> 01:35:58,020
Adam Curry: Right. So erase or
killing? Gino is eraser. Is that

1618
01:35:58,020 --> 01:35:58,500
what you said?

1619
01:35:58,530 --> 01:36:01,560
John C Dvorak: No. This race?
Oh, race. Oh, you know is Greek

1620
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:07,800
for race or tribe. Oh, race
killing. Okay. Or tribe tribe

1621
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,160
killing.

1622
01:36:08,190 --> 01:36:10,050
Adam Curry: He should have
copyrighted that and he will be

1623
01:36:10,050 --> 01:36:11,970
very rich, right. It

1624
01:36:11,970 --> 01:36:13,470
John C Dvorak: goes way beyond
copyright.

1625
01:36:14,850 --> 01:36:16,920
Adam Curry: We sent in our
negotiator who do you think we

1626
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:17,610
sent in?

1627
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,670
Unknown: Sullivan, President
Biden is sending the CIA

1628
01:36:23,670 --> 01:36:28,200
director to help broke.
Washington Post. A gentleman

1629
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,050
there CIA director William J.
Burns will look to close the

1630
01:36:31,050 --> 01:36:34,590
gaps between Israel and Hamas.
That deal is said to include the

1631
01:36:34,590 --> 01:36:35,910
release of all remaining

1632
01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:38,760
John C Dvorak: costs for one
second. Yeah. Under normal

1633
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,550
circumstances they would have
sent in Lloyd Austin or

1634
01:36:41,550 --> 01:36:42,270
Kissinger.

1635
01:36:43,710 --> 01:36:45,180
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. They

1636
01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:47,040
John C Dvorak: can still send
into the agenda rolling his

1637
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:47,520
corpse.

1638
01:36:48,750 --> 01:36:51,720
Adam Curry: Lloyd I wouldn't
have been Lloyd Austin as Lloyd

1639
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,050
Austin the guides to do the
negotiation. Don't you typically

1640
01:36:55,050 --> 01:36:57,720
send a diplomat? If you

1641
01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:00,180
John C Dvorak: do? Well, you can
see that's the great thing about

1642
01:37:00,180 --> 01:37:06,420
William Burns. He's a historic
diplomat. So as head of the CIA,

1643
01:37:06,420 --> 01:37:09,720
they can move him Illinois. He's
just gonna be just a diplomat.

1644
01:37:09,780 --> 01:37:14,460
He's not there to collect any
information about it. Boys in

1645
01:37:14,460 --> 01:37:15,840
the streets Oh, not

1646
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:16,380
Adam Curry: at all

1647
01:37:16,410 --> 01:37:19,500
Unknown: gaps between Israel and
a loss. That deal is said to

1648
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:22,830
include the release of all
remaining hostages held in Gaza

1649
01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:26,670
and a two months ceasefire.
Burns is expected to travel to

1650
01:37:26,670 --> 01:37:29,640
Europe for talks with Israeli
and Egyptian intelligence

1651
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,030
leaders. It's also sledded to me
with Qatar as prime minister,

1652
01:37:33,150 --> 01:37:36,540
Israel continued to its defense
today, Gaza's health ministry

1653
01:37:36,540 --> 01:37:40,380
reports, Israeli fire struck a
crowd killing at least 20 people

1654
01:37:40,530 --> 01:37:42,360
wounded more than 150.

1655
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,030
Adam Curry: That report was
missing number of children

1656
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:46,200
wounded or killed.

1657
01:37:47,070 --> 01:37:50,640
John C Dvorak: You're slipping.
Well wasn't from Democracy Now.

1658
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:51,060
So

1659
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:56,520
Adam Curry: no, it was Chicago
news wire. Meanwhile, there's

1660
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,910
some new allegations about the
United Nation pressure

1661
01:37:59,910 --> 01:38:02,640
Unknown: is growing on the
United Nations and its operation

1662
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,850
in Gaza, Britain and Australia
on Saturday joined other

1663
01:38:05,850 --> 01:38:09,420
countries in suspending their
contributions to UNRWA, the

1664
01:38:09,420 --> 01:38:13,350
United Nations Relief and Works
Agency. Then later in the day,

1665
01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:16,260
Germany announced it would
follow suit and that one could

1666
01:38:16,290 --> 01:38:20,460
really hurt as it was UNRWA was
second largest donor. This

1667
01:38:20,460 --> 01:38:24,330
withdrawal of support follows
allegations that 12 Anwar staff

1668
01:38:24,330 --> 01:38:28,290
members took part in the Hamas
October 7 attacks on Israel.

1669
01:38:28,740 --> 01:38:32,310
Israel, of course, has never
been a fan of the UN. But it's

1670
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:36,180
now up the ante by saying it's
determined to permanently stop

1671
01:38:36,210 --> 01:38:40,200
Anwar from operating in Gaza, in
Tel Aviv is also calling for the

1672
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:44,100
resignation of the UN agencies
boss. But there are some who've

1673
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:47,850
moved to defend Anwar, they
point out it has 30,000 People

1674
01:38:47,850 --> 01:38:51,450
working under his auspices, and
that the 12 has been accused

1675
01:38:51,450 --> 01:38:55,050
were all instantly sacked. Chris
Ganesh is a former Anwar

1676
01:38:55,050 --> 01:38:59,490
spokesperson. He says Israel has
a long history of making claims

1677
01:38:59,490 --> 01:39:02,760
about the agency, which turned
out not to be true. We

1678
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,450
had allegations that UNRWA was
hiding rockets components in its

1679
01:39:06,450 --> 01:39:09,990
schools and was colluding with
Hamas terrorists. In fact, it

1680
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:13,560
was UNRWA that found the rocket
parts in it schools immediately

1681
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,980
reported to all our major donors
and the Israelis condemned it

1682
01:39:17,010 --> 01:39:20,190
what did we get in reply? We got
further accusations in spite of

1683
01:39:20,190 --> 01:39:22,590
having done all this that we
were colluding with terrorists

1684
01:39:24,270 --> 01:39:25,380
Adam Curry: are very suspicious

1685
01:39:26,670 --> 01:39:29,310
John C Dvorak: you know the UN
who did the joke of it is that

1686
01:39:29,340 --> 01:39:32,280
it's the United States taxpayer
that's putting up most of the

1687
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,820
money that's all I think all of
it all pretty much all I do have

1688
01:39:35,820 --> 01:39:38,460
a three by three about all this
time.

1689
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:40,500
Adam Curry: Three by three. I'm
so excited

1690
01:39:40,530 --> 01:39:43,200
Unknown: each day run meant by
JC three

1691
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,380
Adam Curry: by three bearings
don't read from ABC, CBS and

1692
01:39:46,380 --> 01:39:52,530
NBC. I lead you right into it.
That led you right into it.

1693
01:39:52,530 --> 01:39:55,290
Unbeknownst to me, we have a
three by three. This is where

1694
01:39:55,290 --> 01:40:01,050
JCD takes the top news
organizations lays them out side

1695
01:40:01,050 --> 01:40:04,410
by side it seems we have and
three by three plus once again

1696
01:40:04,410 --> 01:40:04,860
today.

1697
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,850
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have CBC
also but let's go with ABCs wn T

1698
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:09,870
Matt Gutman.

1699
01:40:10,980 --> 01:40:12,990
Unknown: Shocking new
allegations tonight against the

1700
01:40:12,990 --> 01:40:16,620
UN's largest aid provider in
Gaza. Israel submitting what it

1701
01:40:16,620 --> 01:40:20,070
says is evidence that 12 aid
workers took part in Hamas is

1702
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:23,460
October 7 rampage, the United
Nations Relief Agency for

1703
01:40:23,460 --> 01:40:27,660
Palestinian refugees or OpenRA.
Immediately firing those workers

1704
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,990
saying its investigation could
lead to criminal charges.

1705
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,960
Tonight the State Department
temporarily pausing funding to

1706
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:35,940
the agency investigation

1707
01:40:35,940 --> 01:40:38,820
proves that in this case, I
think it's about a dozen

1708
01:40:38,850 --> 01:40:42,540
employees are assisting Hamas.
And even to the point of maybe

1709
01:40:42,540 --> 01:40:45,180
even, you know, involved in
hostage taking then absolutely

1710
01:40:45,180 --> 01:40:46,620
they need to be held to account.
It

1711
01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:49,350
comes after the International
Court of Justice, in a sharp

1712
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:52,380
rebuke of Israel's conduct of
the war, ordered it to, quote,

1713
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:55,860
take all measures to prevent
genocide. The interim ruling

1714
01:40:55,860 --> 01:40:58,800
stop short both of calling
Israel's actions in Gaza

1715
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,310
genocide or demanding an
immediate ceasefire. And what

1716
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:05,670
does Israel say to the
allegations of war crimes or

1717
01:41:05,670 --> 01:41:09,450
crimes? Families being blown up
in airstrikes without genocide?

1718
01:41:09,450 --> 01:41:09,510
The

1719
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:13,770
problem is that come off. He's
doing everything he can use the

1720
01:41:13,770 --> 01:41:15,330
population as a human shield.

1721
01:41:15,480 --> 01:41:18,300
And tonight Hamas releasing
chilling new video showing three

1722
01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:22,320
female Israeli hostages pleading
for their release. The family's

1723
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:26,400
asking we only use a steal from
the video. And David back to

1724
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,640
those UN workers accused of
involvement in Hamas is October

1725
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,790
7 attack. The Biden
administration is now calling

1726
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:35,940
for a full and transparent
investigation. But they say that

1727
01:41:35,940 --> 01:41:39,780
the actions of a few should not
impugn the entire agency.

1728
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,000
David's still just extraordinary
of true.

1729
01:41:42,180 --> 01:41:44,490
Adam Curry: This if true. This
is interesting.

1730
01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:47,250
John C Dvorak: Now that
contradict your clip. Yes, it

1731
01:41:47,250 --> 01:41:47,640
did.

1732
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:50,250
Adam Curry: But there was
something in that I found very

1733
01:41:50,250 --> 01:41:53,430
interesting. The family has
asked that we only use a steal.

1734
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:58,350
Why not? Why wouldn't you as a
news organization, show the

1735
01:41:58,350 --> 01:42:00,600
hostages pleading for their
lives?

1736
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:06,420
John C Dvorak: Might be
pandering. Okay, by being you

1737
01:42:06,420 --> 01:42:07,290
know, sickening.

1738
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,860
Adam Curry: Oh, unlike
everything else they show.

1739
01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:16,950
John C Dvorak: Please, designed
to be safe. It was not their

1740
01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:18,720
state department didn't give him
the Go ahead. It's

1741
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,030
Adam Curry: designed to be
sickening to show what Israel is

1742
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:25,950
doing to Palestinians. That part
is okay. I'm gonna say

1743
01:42:27,390 --> 01:42:28,200
John C Dvorak: in BC.

1744
01:42:29,370 --> 01:42:32,310
Unknown: Tonight the UN's
highest court ordering Israel to

1745
01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:36,390
prevent genocidal acts by its
forces but stopping short of

1746
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:40,920
calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
South Africa had accused Israel

1747
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:44,040
of committing genocide and ask
the International Court of

1748
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,700
Justice to order an end to
Israel's war against Hamas.

1749
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,990
Israel has an inherent right to
defend itself. The vile attempt

1750
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:55,680
to deny Israel this fundamental
right is blatant discrimination

1751
01:42:55,710 --> 01:43:00,120
against the Jewish state, and it
was justly rejected. Danny Danon

1752
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,250
is a member of Israel's
Parliament, and the

1753
01:43:02,250 --> 01:43:05,520
International Court of Justice
said there is enough evidence of

1754
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,640
potential genocide that there is
a case to hear, what's your

1755
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:09,660
response to that it

1756
01:43:09,660 --> 01:43:14,640
was a fake case against Israel,
about a fake genocide, blaming

1757
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,370
us for genocide. That's an
absurd.

1758
01:43:17,610 --> 01:43:20,460
The judges highlighting this
quote from Israel's defense

1759
01:43:20,460 --> 01:43:23,490
minister as potential
incitement. We are fighting

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human animals, but also calling
on Hamas to immediately release

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01:43:27,390 --> 01:43:31,740
its hostages. The court has no
way to enforce its rulings which

1762
01:43:31,740 --> 01:43:35,580
come amid a devastating
humanitarian crisis families

1763
01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:39,870
waiting for hours for a single
bowl of soup. Palestinians hope

1764
01:43:39,870 --> 01:43:42,450
the ruling will add to
international pressure for a

1765
01:43:42,450 --> 01:43:43,770
ceasefire. It

1766
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:47,070
makes it very difficult for this
Biden administration to continue

1767
01:43:47,070 --> 01:43:47,550
to

1768
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,680
provide cover to Israel,

1769
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:51,600
this reaction from the White
House.

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01:43:51,780 --> 01:43:55,560
We don't believe that right now
in general ceasefire is the best

1771
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,680
approach. We have no indication
that they are deliberately

1772
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,590
trying to exterminate the people
of Gaza, the

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01:44:01,590 --> 01:44:04,410
White House saying like the
cord, it's called on Israel to

1774
01:44:04,410 --> 01:44:08,550
reduce civilian casualties. The
US also halting funding to the

1775
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:12,870
UN Agency for Palestinian
refugees amid allegations 12 of

1776
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:16,860
its staff took part in the Hamas
terror attack. The employees had

1777
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:20,730
been fired, the UN says and it's
launched a full investigation.

1778
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:25,440
John C Dvorak: Okay, so they
reversed the order. Yes. The

1779
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:31,290
report they put the UN thing at
the end which NBC would be kind

1780
01:44:31,290 --> 01:44:34,890
of globalist operation I would
see the One A minimize

1781
01:44:35,310 --> 01:44:37,590
discussing that. So they put it
at the end. I thought that was

1782
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:42,750
interesting. Another thing that
I find unique is why is it South

1783
01:44:42,750 --> 01:44:44,760
Africa? Ah,

1784
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:49,290
Adam Curry: the I know this
because a lot of money came from

1785
01:44:49,290 --> 01:44:53,580
Qatar into the south out that
guy with the big mouth into the

1786
01:44:53,580 --> 01:44:58,440
South African political system.
They had no money. He had the

1787
01:44:58,440 --> 01:45:00,570
guy who was saying we're going
to we're going The shoot white

1788
01:45:00,570 --> 01:45:05,760
people, that guy, right that guy
got they had no money to run for

1789
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:09,810
there for the election. This is
just what I've read. I don't who

1790
01:45:09,810 --> 01:45:15,060
knows if it's true and so they
they take Israel to court, the

1791
01:45:15,060 --> 01:45:20,010
international criminal justice
system and and then all sudden

1792
01:45:20,010 --> 01:45:24,420
they have all this money. So I
think that's why South Africa

1793
01:45:24,420 --> 01:45:32,340
did it. And then they recognize
the ICJ which, you know, because

1794
01:45:32,580 --> 01:45:37,890
and I don't even mean doesn't
America, blatantly say we don't

1795
01:45:37,890 --> 01:45:39,300
recognize this court?

1796
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,880
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
that's the Google. I know we

1797
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:49,440
don't recognize the ICC is a
different court. Okay. They're

1798
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:53,760
all you know, whatever. Okay,
let's go to CBS which has the

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01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:58,740
mum in my opinion still has the
best coverage of everything. I

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01:45:58,740 --> 01:46:01,500
think they do the best job even
though ABC supposed to be the

1801
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:05,670
top news network. Here we go.
CBS, the wall continues

1802
01:46:05,670 --> 01:46:09,600
Unknown: to close in on
civilians inside Gaza resulted

1803
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,900
1000s of miles away in The
Hague. The United Nations

1804
01:46:12,900 --> 01:46:16,800
International Court of Justice
has delivered its interim

1805
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,310
rulings on South Africa's case
against Israel. The court

1806
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:23,640
residing Judge Jones Donohue
stressed that this was part of a

1807
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,750
wider court case to determine
whether or not Israel was

1808
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:31,980
committing genocide. That
however, could take years not

1809
01:46:31,980 --> 01:46:33,300
she warned the court

1810
01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:36,990
considers that the catastrophic
humanitarian situation in the

1811
01:46:36,990 --> 01:46:41,670
Gaza Strip is at serious risk of
deteriorating further before the

1812
01:46:41,670 --> 01:46:44,910
court renders its final
judgment. And so

1813
01:46:44,910 --> 01:46:48,210
while the courts stopped short
of ordering an immediate

1814
01:46:48,210 --> 01:46:54,930
ceasefire, it has unequivocally
ordered Israel to take all steps

1815
01:46:54,930 --> 01:46:59,610
within its power to prevent
genocide and punish those who

1816
01:46:59,610 --> 01:47:04,830
incite it. It also demanded that
Israel provide food and water,

1817
01:47:05,070 --> 01:47:09,420
the United Nations is 1.1
million are now facing

1818
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:14,010
starvation and access to
humanitarian aid, which is still

1819
01:47:14,010 --> 01:47:17,790
only trickling in. And for those
who live there. Like Hi, I'm hi

1820
01:47:17,790 --> 01:47:22,980
dad who just want a ceasefire.
This ruling was never going to

1821
01:47:22,980 --> 01:47:26,130
be enough this immaculate why
would the world cold give them

1822
01:47:26,130 --> 01:47:30,630
more time to continue genocide
against us. This is unjust and

1823
01:47:30,630 --> 01:47:35,640
unfair. Israel has to report
back on its progress to the

1824
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:39,690
International Court in a month.
But for Palestinians trying to

1825
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:45,330
outrun this wall a month is a
long way away. And today the UN

1826
01:47:45,330 --> 01:47:49,140
Relief Agency in Gaza is under
fire. 12 of its workers have

1827
01:47:49,140 --> 01:47:53,040
been fired suspected of taking
part in the Hamas attack on

1828
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:57,420
Israel last year and taunting
the United States the agency's

1829
01:47:57,420 --> 01:48:01,770
biggest donor to temporarily
halt its funding worth pointing

1830
01:48:01,770 --> 01:48:05,610
Adam Curry: out today is
Holocaust Remembrance Day. I was

1831
01:48:05,610 --> 01:48:10,680
waiting for that good. One CBS
show in the United States is

1832
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,590
from the Council on Foreign
Relations website. The United

1833
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:16,050
States has long had an uneasy
relationship with the

1834
01:48:16,050 --> 01:48:18,660
International Court of Justice,
which primarily arbitrators,

1835
01:48:18,660 --> 01:48:23,460
legal disputes amongst UN member
nations that recognizes

1836
01:48:23,460 --> 01:48:26,700
jurisdiction. The United States
withdrew from the court's

1837
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:31,590
compulsory jurisdiction in 1986
after the court ruled it owed

1838
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:39,690
Nicaragua war reparations. So it
was raining. So it withdrew from

1839
01:48:39,690 --> 01:48:43,170
the compulsory jurisdiction.
Reagan pulled us out Yeah, so

1840
01:48:43,170 --> 01:48:44,370
we're out.

1841
01:48:45,420 --> 01:48:49,380
John C Dvorak: Good for him.
Nicaragua, Rog, lovely.

1842
01:48:49,710 --> 01:48:52,050
Unknown: I mean really, really?
Really, dude.

1843
01:48:53,490 --> 01:48:57,030
Adam Curry: I right, buddy?
Yeah, like no, no, no, we don't

1844
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:59,430
recognize you when we were
clearly at fault.

1845
01:49:00,510 --> 01:49:02,430
John C Dvorak: All right, so
let's go to the plus here is

1846
01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:06,960
going to be CVC which of course
is a kind of a boring version of

1847
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,770
our networks using that pops the
gotten that pops No, they

1848
01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:13,530
usually they don't they I mean,
it's not as bad as some of them.

1849
01:49:13,530 --> 01:49:17,790
They don't have anything like
the BBC. But they don't have as

1850
01:49:17,790 --> 01:49:23,490
much it doesn't have as much
pizzazz and and triggering is

1851
01:49:23,490 --> 01:49:25,170
our networks. Okay.

1852
01:49:26,730 --> 01:49:28,680
Adam Curry: Well, come on. What
are you talking about trigger

1853
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:29,850
right off the bat?

1854
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,260
John C Dvorak: Well, baby crying
Yeah,

1855
01:49:31,290 --> 01:49:31,980
Adam Curry: it's good one.

1856
01:49:33,450 --> 01:49:36,420
Unknown: In the Hague protesters
and supporters of both Israel

1857
01:49:36,420 --> 01:49:40,200
and Palestinians set the stage
for the momentous ruling by the

1858
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,650
United Nations top court.
Lawyers for Israel had wanted

1859
01:49:43,650 --> 01:49:47,280
what they call the observed
genocide case dismissed. While

1860
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,040
South Africa's legal team
demanded what amounted to a

1861
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:54,150
ceasefire in Gaza. The court
considers that 15 judges did

1862
01:49:54,150 --> 01:49:57,630
neither the rule that while some
of Israel's acts in Gaza could

1863
01:49:57,630 --> 01:50:01,560
plausibly amounted genocide, the
court did not order a halt to

1864
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,450
the war, instead judge to

1865
01:50:07,319 --> 01:50:09,389
Adam Curry: hear from the
International Criminal Justice

1866
01:50:09,389 --> 01:50:14,459
Court and we all we order a halt
to this bar. Can they do this?

1867
01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:18,569
Is it that easy. They can do
whatever they want. I mean, they

1868
01:50:18,569 --> 01:50:21,989
can order a high edict they
think they should have ordered

1869
01:50:21,989 --> 01:50:25,169
doesn't mean he was going to
follow it. They should order it

1870
01:50:25,349 --> 01:50:27,929
was wrong with Israel and the
other previous reports

1871
01:50:27,930 --> 01:50:30,030
John C Dvorak: said that they
get damaged month to comply with

1872
01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:35,640
some sort of report. India did
do a little paperwork. It seems

1873
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:41,070
to me that paperwork, but
they're signatories, and they

1874
01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:43,110
were ordered to stop they have
to stop

1875
01:50:43,140 --> 01:50:47,010
Adam Curry: the epithets is just
insane to listen to. This insane

1876
01:50:47,070 --> 01:50:47,940
is completely

1877
01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:48,690
John C Dvorak: insane

1878
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,780
Unknown: plausibly amount of
genocide, the court did not

1879
01:50:51,780 --> 01:50:55,410
order a halt to the war.
Instead, Judge Joan Donahue said

1880
01:50:55,410 --> 01:50:59,520
Israel must take actions to
prevent an acts of genocide. And

1881
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,430
to improve the humanitarian
situation particular

1882
01:51:02,460 --> 01:51:05,460
the court further considers that
Israel must ensure with

1883
01:51:05,460 --> 01:51:09,420
immediate effect, that its
military forces do not commit

1884
01:51:09,450 --> 01:51:11,220
any of the aforementioned acts

1885
01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:12,210
Adam Curry: kill better.

1886
01:51:14,310 --> 01:51:16,680
Unknown: In Gaza, where the
fighting is some of the heaviest

1887
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,430
of the war, and where
Palestinian officials say 26,000

1888
01:51:20,430 --> 01:51:24,000
People are now dead, half of
them women and children, there

1889
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,850
was disappointment or check and
felt would have come up with

1890
01:51:26,850 --> 01:51:30,090
anything. Immediately. There
should have been a ceasefire I

1891
01:51:30,090 --> 01:51:34,140
had saved for the videographer
working for CBC News, then they

1892
01:51:34,140 --> 01:51:36,870
can start investigating and see
what's really happening here.

1893
01:51:36,900 --> 01:51:42,450
When I say methods everyone's
expecting that Israel won't

1894
01:51:42,450 --> 01:51:46,440
follow through with the ruling
said Omar Al Sokka. Since wins

1895
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:50,070
Israel follow through with any
ruling from the UN, Israeli

1896
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:53,190
officials, including UN
Ambassador Gilad or dawn,

1897
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,220
meanwhile, lashed out over the
fact that the genocide

1898
01:51:56,220 --> 01:51:59,910
accusation is still hanging over
the country. Today

1899
01:51:59,910 --> 01:52:04,380
the UN has become one of the
weapons in the arsenal of modern

1900
01:52:04,380 --> 01:52:09,930
day Nazis against us. Every
human body has become weaponized

1901
01:52:09,930 --> 01:52:11,520
against the Jewish state.

1902
01:52:12,930 --> 01:52:16,740
Adam Curry: You know what's
amazing about these reports it

1903
01:52:16,740 --> 01:52:23,490
has people so spawn up where you
know, it's like Walk down any

1904
01:52:23,490 --> 01:52:30,270
street in your in your town. And
look at the homeless the drug

1905
01:52:30,270 --> 01:52:36,240
addicts the thieving from stores
the total decay look at the I'll

1906
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:41,340
give it to you the potholes look
at the look look at children who

1907
01:52:41,340 --> 01:52:44,880
are crying that they can't make
ends meet no one cares about

1908
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:49,230
that. No. Oh no juice. Let's
troll room was filled with them

1909
01:52:49,230 --> 01:52:54,120
today. It's amazing. This
getting spun up over this. This

1910
01:52:54,120 --> 01:53:00,030
has been going on forever.
Nothing new. Sadly, yeah,

1911
01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:04,230
John C Dvorak: it's been going
on since I remember when I was a

1912
01:53:04,230 --> 01:53:08,040
kid. A kid in college I was
college kid when I was young at

1913
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,590
the slingshot and they were
arguing with each other back in

1914
01:53:10,590 --> 01:53:15,180
the day. This is you know 4050
years ago and I went to hear a I

1915
01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:18,870
got I talked about this before i
i went to Wheeler auditorium for

1916
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:23,070
to hear would turned out to be a
three hour lecture on on the

1917
01:53:23,070 --> 01:53:25,260
music industry by Phil Spector.

1918
01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:26,970
Adam Curry: Wow.

1919
01:53:28,170 --> 01:53:30,900
John C Dvorak: That was feels
great. It was great.

1920
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:34,800
Adam Curry: Did you have the
crazy hair? Yeah, you had the

1921
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:35,370
crazy hair.

1922
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,030
John C Dvorak: And he was way it
was wearing? He was wearing some

1923
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:44,730
sort of a blousey white shirt
with the frilly the Danda

1924
01:53:44,730 --> 01:53:47,730
sleeves. It was like a lace.
Yeah, oh

1925
01:53:47,730 --> 01:53:49,560
Adam Curry: yeah, frilly shirt,
frilly shirt,

1926
01:53:49,710 --> 01:53:52,170
John C Dvorak: frilly shirt, and
that frilly shirt, he mentioned

1927
01:53:52,170 --> 01:53:55,380
that and it was and he was
referring back to the he was

1928
01:53:55,380 --> 01:54:03,090
talking about the jukebox box
days of of creating hit records

1929
01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:06,120
and talk to any made dimension.
And I already took took this to

1930
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:10,590
heart when I was a became a
column writer. Never have to two

1931
01:54:10,590 --> 01:54:15,090
dogs in a row. You can have hit
dog hit dog hit but okay, if you

1932
01:54:15,090 --> 01:54:17,700
have two dogs don't dog on,
you're done. You're done. And

1933
01:54:17,700 --> 01:54:19,950
they won't they won't play your
stuff anymore. It's just you're

1934
01:54:19,950 --> 01:54:26,520
done. Yeah. And so, but he
referred back to the 40s. And

1935
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,190
he's talked then he says, you
know, this situ and he talked a

1936
01:54:29,190 --> 01:54:31,890
refers specifically to the
situation in the Middle East

1937
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:36,300
with the Jews and the Arabs back
then. And it was just it was a

1938
01:54:36,330 --> 01:54:40,140
nightmare. It's always been what
you just said it's always been

1939
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:44,310
going on but now you so why do
we get spun up about because

1940
01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:47,100
Adam Curry: we're, we're be
taught to choose aside because

1941
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:50,460
you know, it's all everything.
All the problems in the world

1942
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:54,090
are the fault of one side or the
other. That's what it is and

1943
01:54:54,090 --> 01:54:58,860
people fall for it every single
time. Every single time. Whoa

1944
01:54:58,860 --> 01:55:04,920
blue, red, blue. Right, Left up,
down Jew Muslim. It's always the

1945
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,460
same. Although I don't hear
Chinese Uighur, don't hear that

1946
01:55:08,460 --> 01:55:08,940
often.

1947
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,630
John C Dvorak: It's ended, in
fact, going to the Chinese news.

1948
01:55:12,630 --> 01:55:13,650
Wait, wait, wait, before

1949
01:55:13,650 --> 01:55:15,930
Adam Curry: you go to the
Chinese news. I have one clip

1950
01:55:16,410 --> 01:55:23,730
from your buddy Kristen Welker,
who is tells us that the White

1951
01:55:23,730 --> 01:55:29,460
House is very, very tired of the
protests. Very tired of being

1952
01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:31,920
called genocide. Joe. Joe

1953
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,180
John C Dvorak: is one of them
upset?

1954
01:55:33,210 --> 01:55:35,160
Adam Curry: Very, very upset
about it. Yes.

1955
01:55:35,190 --> 01:55:38,580
Unknown: What is the White House
has planned to deal with

1956
01:55:38,580 --> 01:55:42,120
protesters in the coming weeks
in the coming months and the

1957
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,850
concern that it could overshadow
his message?

1958
01:55:46,140 --> 01:55:48,420
Yeah, this event today was
certainly a smaller event. And

1959
01:55:48,420 --> 01:55:50,760
we're told it was actually
invite only. So perhaps that is

1960
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,360
why there were no protests
happening today. But the White

1961
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,210
House is understanding this is a
problem when it interrupts the

1962
01:55:57,210 --> 01:56:00,210
message of the President when
he's on stage. So they've hired

1963
01:56:00,210 --> 01:56:03,420
a guy named Doug Landry. He is
an expert at campaigns and some

1964
01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:07,230
campaigns over the past several
years. And he is somebody who

1965
01:56:07,230 --> 01:56:09,450
they believe can come in and
come up with a creative

1966
01:56:09,450 --> 01:56:12,720
solution. Or Mike membeli, at
our Monica Alaba said he can

1967
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,930
come up with a creative solution
to try to make sure these folks

1968
01:56:15,930 --> 01:56:18,840
have a voice and their voice is
heard. But it's not interrupting

1969
01:56:18,930 --> 01:56:19,620
the President's.

1970
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:23,760
Adam Curry: You can have a voice
but you can't interrupt the

1971
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:27,600
president. Stop that. Stop

1972
01:56:27,870 --> 01:56:32,580
John C Dvorak: came out of that
last particular event, I guess

1973
01:56:32,580 --> 01:56:35,100
where I think he was in
Milwaukee, where they call them

1974
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:38,190
genocide, Joe, but genocide Joe,
but it's the

1975
01:56:38,190 --> 01:56:40,980
Adam Curry: chanting it's and
it's all it's all the socialist

1976
01:56:40,980 --> 01:56:43,920
Marxist influencers who are
doing this been doing it for

1977
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:49,020
decades. They occupy Wall
Street, Black Lives Matter.

1978
01:56:49,770 --> 01:56:52,830
Oops, oh, crap. Now they're
doing it against us. Oh, well,

1979
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,400
it was for when they were doing
it against Trump, but then do it

1980
01:56:56,400 --> 01:57:01,290
against Joe, to be expected but
but that's the point. It's like,

1981
01:57:01,590 --> 01:57:05,160
there's atrocities all over the
world. But no one cares about

1982
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:09,630
them. Ask yourself, why do you
care so much about this one? Be

1983
01:57:09,630 --> 01:57:12,690
a gatekeeper of your own mind
for two seconds.

1984
01:57:13,260 --> 01:57:15,420
John C Dvorak: More concerned
about the pie holes.

1985
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:18,090
Adam Curry: I'm with you on with
you on that shine.

1986
01:57:18,150 --> 01:57:20,580
John C Dvorak: This is the as
you as what happened to the What

1987
01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:24,510
about the Uyghurs? Well, here's
China from this CCTV, actually

1988
01:57:24,510 --> 01:57:30,750
CGTN report from Beijing on
China and their human rights, so

1989
01:57:30,750 --> 01:57:33,000
they're obviously taking care of
the problem,

1990
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:35,460
Unknown: or Chinese envoy has
expressed the country's

1991
01:57:35,460 --> 01:57:38,850
readiness to collaborate with
the global community to advance

1992
01:57:38,850 --> 01:57:42,510
and safeguard human rights.
China's Permanent Representative

1993
01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:46,440
to the UN Office at Geneva was
speaking after recommendations

1994
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:50,310
made to China were adopted on
Friday during a session of the

1995
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:54,540
UN Human Rights Council Chinchou
you also said Beijing aims to

1996
01:57:54,540 --> 01:57:58,170
ensure that the benefits of his
modernization are distributed

1997
01:57:58,170 --> 01:57:59,880
more fairly among its people.

1998
01:57:59,910 --> 01:58:02,640
So as you can see you we will be
out of course and so in the

1999
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:06,060
process of achieving this
ambitious goal, we will ensure

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01:58:06,060 --> 01:58:09,420
the fruits of modernization will
benefit people all over the

2001
01:58:09,420 --> 01:58:13,050
country more faily continuously
improve the level of human

2002
01:58:13,050 --> 01:58:16,500
rights protection and promote a
free and overall development of

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01:58:16,500 --> 01:58:20,010
the people. While promoting high
quality development of the human

2004
01:58:20,010 --> 01:58:22,950
rights course China will always
uphold the spirit of

2005
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:26,700
establishing itself while
bearing in mind others an

2006
01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:30,630
advocate for equal and orderly
multipolarity and inclusive

2007
01:58:30,630 --> 01:58:33,450
economic globalization that
benefits everyone.

2008
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know that
people are teaching guys people

2009
01:58:37,380 --> 01:58:43,170
are tuning out like a China
whatever. I don't know. It's not

2010
01:58:43,170 --> 01:58:46,710
it's not in the programming.
It's not in the programming. If

2011
01:58:46,710 --> 01:58:48,720
it's not in the programming,
people don't care. That's like

2012
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:54,270
Africa. You know, I keep trying
to play Africa clips is like you

2013
01:58:54,270 --> 01:58:58,170
can see the drop off right away.
Oh, Africa. Yes, a big place.

2014
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,390
John C Dvorak: Who cares buddy
wants to deal with.

2015
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:06,270
Adam Curry: I do have a fun and
tight. I don't want to give it

2016
01:59:06,270 --> 01:59:11,130
away. I want to give it away. A
report came out a report

2017
01:59:11,130 --> 01:59:17,010
somehow. We have big pharma and
the medical industry has looked

2018
01:59:17,010 --> 01:59:21,930
into the future and the future
is dementia. In Canada.

2019
01:59:22,110 --> 01:59:28,560
Unknown: A new landmark study is
projecting a 187% increase in

2020
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:32,190
people living with dementia by
2050. The report also looks at a

2021
01:59:32,190 --> 01:59:36,090
major shift in dementia
demographics in this country. To

2022
01:59:36,090 --> 01:59:39,810
discuss the findings is Dr.
Roger Wong, Alzheimer's Society

2023
01:59:39,810 --> 01:59:43,050
of Canada, board member,
Clinical Professor of Geriatric

2024
01:59:43,050 --> 01:59:44,790
Medicine at UBC.

2025
01:59:44,820 --> 01:59:47,130
Adam Curry: I found this to be
fascinating. First of all, the

2026
01:59:47,130 --> 01:59:52,950
number 187% not double, not
triple not quadruple, not

2027
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:59,070
180 511 187%. This must be a
climate change model. And he's

2028
01:59:59,070 --> 02:00:03,240
got I mean Isn't dementia
something that we pretty much

2029
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:06,900
have licks? Why would it be
increasing?

2030
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,730
John C Dvorak: Let's find
because people are living longer

2031
02:00:11,730 --> 02:00:14,910
or maybe it's not as part of
it's not increasing or, or maybe

2032
02:00:14,910 --> 02:00:20,430
it's the way it's being defined
or the definition is changed.

2033
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,190
There's a lot of reasons.
There's

2034
02:00:23,190 --> 02:00:24,900
Adam Curry: some of that, but
there's an agenda here.

2035
02:00:25,050 --> 02:00:27,060
Unknown: So how do we prepare?
Doctor,

2036
02:00:27,330 --> 02:00:30,120
I think there are four different
ways that we can think about it.

2037
02:00:30,420 --> 02:00:33,570
The first thing is in terms of
our healthcare system, we need

2038
02:00:33,570 --> 02:00:37,800
to ensure that our policies in
place an implementation of these

2039
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:42,090
policies to allow for equitable
access to dementia care,

2040
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:45,450
including diagnosis and
prevention, equitable, all

2041
02:00:45,450 --> 02:00:49,350
Canadians in ways that are
culturally sensitive. The second

2042
02:00:49,350 --> 02:00:54,030
way is to research we need to
ensure the research on dementia

2043
02:00:54,270 --> 02:00:58,080
in Canada would include
participants from very diverse

2044
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:02,610
backgrounds, because they make
up the population in Canada. And

2045
02:01:02,610 --> 02:01:06,450
a third way really, is to think
about policies policies that

2046
02:01:06,450 --> 02:01:10,530
will reduce differences in
dementia risk across Canada. And

2047
02:01:10,530 --> 02:01:13,740
that will include policy to
allow for national data

2048
02:01:13,740 --> 02:01:18,060
collection and tracking. And
fourth, and last but not least,

2049
02:01:18,180 --> 02:01:21,960
is to make sure that there is
education and support that is

2050
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:24,840
again done in culturally
sensitive ways to support

2051
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:28,440
persons living with dementia,
and their care partners and

2052
02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:28,980
loved ones.

2053
02:01:29,190 --> 02:01:31,440
Adam Curry: So I was about done
with this. I'm like, Oh, this is

2054
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,050
not interesting. Who cares?
What's kind of bogus report and

2055
02:01:34,050 --> 02:01:38,070
then all of a sudden, this guy
on cloaks, it's about the

2056
02:01:38,070 --> 02:01:39,090
Asians.

2057
02:01:39,300 --> 02:01:42,960
Unknown: The report highlighted
the fact that the Asian

2058
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:47,490
population is really going to be
impacted. Can you expand on

2059
02:01:47,490 --> 02:01:48,540
that? Tell us why?

2060
02:01:48,810 --> 02:01:53,400
Absolutely. So what this report
does is to look at individuals

2061
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,910
from different cohorts and
different groupings, and this

2062
02:01:56,940 --> 02:02:00,900
discovery that for people with
Asian including South and East

2063
02:02:00,900 --> 02:02:05,730
Asian ancestry, that the number
of individuals living with

2064
02:02:05,730 --> 02:02:10,380
dementia is projected to
increase by nine fold, so a nine

2065
02:02:10,380 --> 02:02:15,450
time increase from about 40,000
people plus living with dementia

2066
02:02:15,450 --> 02:02:20,550
right now in Canada to over
400,000. So it's a significant

2067
02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:24,360
jump, again, multiple reasons
the population is aging, but

2068
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:27,030
there are also the presence of
risk factors that lead to

2069
02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:32,160
dementia since especially in
this population. The other thing

2070
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,610
to remember is there's also a
lot of culturally sensitive

2071
02:02:35,610 --> 02:02:39,750
values, attitudes, beliefs, or
stigma that could become

2072
02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:43,260
barriers in terms of these
individuals accessing care

2073
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:47,820
Adam Curry: those pesky Asians
don't like our health care

2074
02:02:48,780 --> 02:02:52,530
that's what that's what this
report is about. Oh, you're

2075
02:02:52,530 --> 02:02:55,410
gonna get dementia you pesky
Asians if you do what do you

2076
02:02:55,410 --> 02:02:57,810
think you're going to buy eating
healthy that you're going to

2077
02:02:57,810 --> 02:03:02,430
live longer? No, no, no, no no
that's this is the

2078
02:03:02,430 --> 02:03:06,960
pharmaceutical industry of
Canada targeting the Asians you

2079
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:13,470
got to come into the fold now of
course weird report but of

2080
02:03:13,470 --> 02:03:16,650
course what they'll do is you
just kill them. Well, they have

2081
02:03:16,650 --> 02:03:20,490
that base layer. Yeah. Make got
made you got made. Yeah, got

2082
02:03:20,490 --> 02:03:28,140
made. Absolutely. I'd be very
worried. If I was Asian. coming

2083
02:03:28,140 --> 02:03:28,620
for you.

2084
02:03:29,850 --> 02:03:35,790
John C Dvorak: There is a kind
of part of the clips earlier of

2085
02:03:35,790 --> 02:03:39,240
the kids bitching about the
country being crap and United

2086
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:45,510
States is it's all America's
fault and capitalism Cordex this

2087
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:48,630
is gonna play this is a clip I
think is going to portend

2088
02:03:48,900 --> 02:03:51,660
especially if Trump gets elected
because people want to leave the

2089
02:03:51,660 --> 02:03:55,290
country. But this is from a show
called the bridge. I played the

2090
02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:57,600
whole I think I have the whole
beginning so you get a feeling

2091
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:05,640
for it. This is a podcast. Oh,
luckily out of Beijing. Oh, and

2092
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:09,840
I just want you to hear what
they think of the of this new

2093
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:10,470
trend.

2094
02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:15,210
Adam Curry: Snappy music, I like
it already. This is a great

2095
02:04:15,210 --> 02:04:15,930
podcast,

2096
02:04:17,250 --> 02:04:20,700
Unknown: shall I call it upon to
the bridge the fun conversations

2097
02:04:20,700 --> 02:04:23,250
on culture, life and everything
in between.

2098
02:04:26,310 --> 02:04:29,100
Find us where you get your
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2099
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:31,800
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2100
02:04:31,860 --> 02:04:35,190
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2101
02:04:35,220 --> 02:04:38,850
us at? We love the
bridge@gmail.com we love the

2102
02:04:38,850 --> 02:04:44,100
bridge. To the bridge, the
American Dream is no longer to

2103
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:48,150
settle down in the states and
have kids and then quote, The

2104
02:04:48,150 --> 02:04:52,530
American dream is to leave
America and quote what does that

2105
02:04:52,530 --> 02:04:55,650
bring to mind for you? baybay
Wow,

2106
02:04:55,650 --> 02:04:57,600
that's a huge statement.

2107
02:04:57,960 --> 02:04:58,710
Great. I

2108
02:04:59,550 --> 02:05:03,750
love that. Through well, maybe
to a certain extent, but you're

2109
02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:06,930
I was reading about this. And my
the thought in my mind was,

2110
02:05:07,890 --> 02:05:12,420
there could be a silver lining
to this dark cloud, you may say,

2111
02:05:12,450 --> 02:05:16,410
you know, dark for US citizens.
But then I think this will be a

2112
02:05:16,410 --> 02:05:19,890
great opportunity for more
Americans, especially the

2113
02:05:19,890 --> 02:05:22,350
younger generation to walk out
of the country.

2114
02:05:25,710 --> 02:05:28,860
Adam Curry: I love this because,
yes, I would say a large

2115
02:05:28,860 --> 02:05:31,830
contingent of young people in
America think that you can just

2116
02:05:31,830 --> 02:05:36,690
go to any country and go in and
live and work. Yes, that's how

2117
02:05:36,690 --> 02:05:40,440
it works here. Apparently. The
answer no, no, Austria does

2118
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:43,800
Australia, don't they still
require, like a million dollars

2119
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:47,490
in the bank account? Or some you
have to be at a literal

2120
02:05:48,570 --> 02:05:50,850
John C Dvorak: to become an
Australian citizen that might be

2121
02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:51,510
required?

2122
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,960
Adam Curry: I think it's even
for working there longer term.

2123
02:05:54,990 --> 02:05:55,170
No,

2124
02:05:55,170 --> 02:05:57,720
John C Dvorak: I don't think
well, maybe we have Australia

2125
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:00,690
and New Zealand is pretty easy
to get into. Yeah.

2126
02:06:02,130 --> 02:06:05,580
Adam Curry: Well, who would want
to go No one goes. No, I think

2127
02:06:05,580 --> 02:06:09,240
you have to be a billionaire and
and build a bunker if you want

2128
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,150
to live in New Zealand? That's
no problem.

2129
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:13,890
John C Dvorak: I think there's
but I think we're gonna start

2130
02:06:13,890 --> 02:06:17,910
hearing about this more. It
started with the CNN report in

2131
02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:21,690
the Chinese loving it. Just
dead. Young Americans,

2132
02:06:21,690 --> 02:06:24,900
especially like the ones
complaining earlier. is just

2133
02:06:24,900 --> 02:06:26,820
going to leave the country. They
hate it here.

2134
02:06:26,850 --> 02:06:27,870
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, good
luck.

2135
02:06:28,590 --> 02:06:29,790
John C Dvorak: That's what I
think.

2136
02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:33,420
Adam Curry: I've lived in a
couple of countries. I still to

2137
02:06:33,420 --> 02:06:36,570
this day, it was Christina.

2138
02:06:38,490 --> 02:06:41,460
John C Dvorak: And you've lived
in very, you lived in England

2139
02:06:41,460 --> 02:06:45,570
for a long time. And you were in
the very liberal Holland, which

2140
02:06:45,570 --> 02:06:48,930
is like, you know, she was
perceived as the great Paradise

2141
02:06:48,930 --> 02:06:52,320
by many liberals in the United
States, because you can bicycle

2142
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:53,190
everywhere. Yeah,

2143
02:06:53,190 --> 02:06:55,980
Adam Curry: I have a report.
Remember now what I've said many

2144
02:06:55,980 --> 02:07:00,540
times is that the Netherlands is
the narco state of the European

2145
02:07:00,540 --> 02:07:04,770
Union. Let's get a little
rundown on what's going on in

2146
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:05,640
from Deutsche availa.

2147
02:07:05,670 --> 02:07:08,580
Unknown: Now the European Union
is teaming up with port

2148
02:07:08,580 --> 02:07:12,810
operators to combat increasing
illegal drug trafficking. There

2149
02:07:12,810 --> 02:07:16,200
have been huge increases in the
amount of cocaine entering the

2150
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:20,010
continent through ports in
Belgium and the Netherlands in

2151
02:07:20,010 --> 02:07:23,310
recent years and that has
prompted the EU to start a new

2152
02:07:23,310 --> 02:07:27,210
project to fight back against
the drug smugglers person has

2153
02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:30,690
been steadily ramping up on
European politicians to act to

2154
02:07:30,690 --> 02:07:34,590
tackle the drug gangs operating
here. Criminals have reportedly

2155
02:07:34,590 --> 02:07:38,220
been handing out hundreds of
1000s of euros in bribes to port

2156
02:07:38,220 --> 02:07:41,970
workers and threatening them and
their families to gain access to

2157
02:07:41,970 --> 02:07:46,170
shipments. The Dutch port of
Rotterdam is another key focus

2158
02:07:46,170 --> 02:07:49,980
of the project. Scores of people
have been shot or bombed in drug

2159
02:07:50,010 --> 02:07:52,980
gang violence in Belgium, the
Netherlands and across the

2160
02:07:52,980 --> 02:07:56,940
European Union in recent years,
including the murders of famous

2161
02:07:56,940 --> 02:08:00,960
investigators and lawyers, as
well as innocent children caught

2162
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:04,350
in the crossfire customs
officials here in Antwerp seized

2163
02:08:04,410 --> 02:08:10,950
116,000 kilos of cocaine last
year coming in on ships from all

2164
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:15,330
over the world. It was another
new yearly record for the port.

2165
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:20,010
And bear in mind, that's just
what's being seized, not what's

2166
02:08:20,010 --> 02:08:23,220
getting past the customs
officials. The gangs are

2167
02:08:23,220 --> 02:08:26,850
bringing the drugs in from Latin
America, mainly Ecuador and

2168
02:08:26,850 --> 02:08:30,000
Colombia. The Porter liars
comprises of European

2169
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:34,080
politicians, Port masters,
shipping companies and security

2170
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:34,680
firms.

2171
02:08:37,860 --> 02:08:42,210
Adam Curry: And it's so bad.
They're the micro mafia, killing

2172
02:08:42,210 --> 02:08:49,050
each other. Over stolen dope.
It's this it's a mess. It's a

2173
02:08:49,050 --> 02:08:57,180
mess. But hey, they got wooden
shoes. I just need to play a

2174
02:08:57,180 --> 02:08:59,730
couple clips. We were going to
take our break in a moment.

2175
02:09:00,180 --> 02:09:05,730
Because Rev. Al had another
classic Reverend Al moment. Not

2176
02:09:05,730 --> 02:09:10,380
on his own show, but he was with
the Joy Joy read the readout.

2177
02:09:10,890 --> 02:09:12,690
And of course bitching about
Trump is

2178
02:09:12,690 --> 02:09:15,030
Unknown: somewhere around a
quarter of a billion dollars

2179
02:09:15,030 --> 02:09:18,570
he's going to have to come up
with so Donald Trump will become

2180
02:09:18,570 --> 02:09:22,770
more unhinged. He will become
more desperate. We're going to

2181
02:09:22,770 --> 02:09:27,330
see him and his followers go
into the Twilight Zone in terms

2182
02:09:27,330 --> 02:09:32,040
of action now, because I do not
believe he has the money. And I

2183
02:09:32,070 --> 02:09:35,730
And if he defaults, he has
judgments against him. His

2184
02:09:35,730 --> 02:09:39,960
property start getting lean. He
is facing something he's never

2185
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:45,570
thought and his brand has been
totally demolished now, because

2186
02:09:45,570 --> 02:09:49,890
the big businessman will be
exposed like the Wizard of Oz to

2187
02:09:49,890 --> 02:09:52,500
have no clothes and no way out.

2188
02:09:53,850 --> 02:09:57,030
Adam Curry: This is a new one a
hybrid. The Wizard of Oz has no

2189
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:58,170
clothes. The

2190
02:09:58,170 --> 02:10:03,540
John C Dvorak: Wizard of Oz has
No clothes. This guy is that

2191
02:10:03,540 --> 02:10:04,440
gold mine

2192
02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:11,580
Adam Curry: the Wizard of Oz has
no clothes Joy read what say

2193
02:10:11,580 --> 02:10:12,150
you? Yeah,

2194
02:10:12,150 --> 02:10:16,200
Unknown: there will be no owning
beauty pageants and partnering

2195
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:20,250
with Macy's and all of those
things go nice. Now in his state

2196
02:10:20,250 --> 02:10:22,260
of mind, what was the movie
where they said you play with my

2197
02:10:22,260 --> 02:10:24,930
money you play with my emotions,
his emotions are about to get

2198
02:10:24,930 --> 02:10:25,530
played with.

2199
02:10:25,860 --> 02:10:27,630
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Now while
we're on that

2200
02:10:27,660 --> 02:10:31,380
John C Dvorak: he hasn't owned a
beauty operation for decades and

2201
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years.

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02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:35,070
Adam Curry: It's alright the
Wizard of Oz has no clothes.

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02:10:36,270 --> 02:10:39,360
Bless just discuss this for a
second. This sexual harassment

2204
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:40,530
suit very interesting

2205
02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:42,870
Unknown: US Department of
Justice says it former New York

2206
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:45,660
Governor Andrew Cuomo did
sexually harass more than a

2207
02:10:45,660 --> 02:10:49,140
dozen state employees. The
settlement was announced today

2208
02:10:49,170 --> 02:10:52,890
the DOJ concluded its
investigation and provided ways

2209
02:10:52,890 --> 02:10:55,860
New York can change how it
handles complaints. Cuomo

2210
02:10:55,860 --> 02:10:59,400
resigned, as you recall his
governor in 2021, after claims

2211
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:02,490
that he created a hostile work
environment, to staffers were

2212
02:11:02,490 --> 02:11:05,250
accused of not reporting the
allegations.

2213
02:11:05,490 --> 02:11:08,700
Adam Curry: So just contrast
that which no one heard about

2214
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:14,040
what they're doing with Trump.
This guy was an actual sleazy

2215
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:19,200
Scuzz and just gets a 25 second
story.

2216
02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:23,700
John C Dvorak: It's quite, it's
quite ridiculous on this Trump

2217
02:11:24,030 --> 02:11:25,620
Adam Curry: has plenty of clips
here.

2218
02:11:25,650 --> 02:11:28,530
John C Dvorak: Why don't I do
the reason I got my clip in

2219
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:34,410
cludes? A little mention of the
fact. Maybe I don't have it. But

2220
02:11:34,650 --> 02:11:38,010
the fact that reed Hoffman is
the one who financed this whole

2221
02:11:38,010 --> 02:11:39,510
deal. I

2222
02:11:39,780 --> 02:11:47,010
Adam Curry: think I have that on
seconds. I do have that. Well,

2223
02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:48,420
John C Dvorak: I know what it
was. It was Yeah, Trump's

2224
02:11:48,420 --> 02:11:53,430
attorney came out I didn't
record it. He came out and just

2225
02:11:53,430 --> 02:11:58,590
raved about the phony baloney
nature of this entire trial

2226
02:11:58,590 --> 02:12:01,230
where they couldn't put on a
defense they wouldn't let him do

2227
02:12:01,230 --> 02:12:04,500
this or that or the other thing.
And then she definitely she said

2228
02:12:04,500 --> 02:12:07,590
they watched the fact that she
wanted to mention to the jury

2229
02:12:07,590 --> 02:12:11,070
that reed Hoffman is paid for
the whole thing is just part of

2230
02:12:11,070 --> 02:12:12,240
a smear campaign. But

2231
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:16,890
Adam Curry: do you know what the
now she's claiming? That? You

2232
02:12:16,890 --> 02:12:21,420
know, she's getting death
threats. But the real lawyer No,

2233
02:12:21,420 --> 02:12:28,860
no, no. This Carol woman but the
real. The original suit. The

2234
02:12:28,860 --> 02:12:32,640
where she claimed damages for
was because she lost her job as

2235
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:38,610
a columnist at I think vogue at
76 years of age, which kind of

2236
02:12:39,330 --> 02:12:43,830
you might have been lost that
anyway. Yeah, I would think

2237
02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:45,870
Yeah, but that's what that
that's what it was really

2238
02:12:45,870 --> 02:12:50,400
originally about. Everyone sees
this. Everyone sees what's going

2239
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:53,460
on. It's now here. You're right.
Let's listen to joy. Reid. Let's

2240
02:12:53,460 --> 02:12:55,200
see if she sees what's going on

2241
02:12:55,230 --> 02:12:58,140
Unknown: the unanimous verdict.
Donald Trump is on the hook for

2242
02:12:58,140 --> 02:13:06,150
just over $83 million in damages
at $3.3 million. To be exact. It

2243
02:13:06,150 --> 02:13:09,780
took just less than three hours
of deliberation by the jury to

2244
02:13:09,780 --> 02:13:12,900
come to that verdict. It's a
huge increase from the $5

2245
02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:16,470
million verdict. A separate jury
awarded Carol last year after

2246
02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:20,190
finding Trump liable for
sexually assaulting and defaming

2247
02:13:20,190 --> 02:13:23,490
her. Now this is the part where
if you've got kiddos in the

2248
02:13:23,490 --> 02:13:26,610
room, you might want to cover
their little ears because kiddos

2249
02:13:26,610 --> 02:13:30,270
Adam Curry: watch those kiddos
which is paedos talk Ms. Carol's

2250
02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:34,110
Unknown: case goes back to the
1990s and she accused Trump of

2251
02:13:34,110 --> 02:13:38,730
doing exactly what he said on
that infamous Access Hollywood

2252
02:13:38,730 --> 02:13:39,210
tape

2253
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:42,690
Adam Curry: now please indeed,
if you have kiddos in the room,

2254
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:45,150
you may want them not to hear
this because this is on

2255
02:13:45,150 --> 02:13:46,170
television where he

2256
02:13:46,170 --> 02:13:51,390
Unknown: said when you're a star
they let you grab women by the

2257
02:13:51,630 --> 02:13:55,320
you remember the rest. Miss
Carroll told the jury that he

2258
02:13:55,320 --> 02:13:58,860
did exactly that to her,
forcibly putting his tiny

2259
02:13:58,890 --> 02:14:01,200
fingers into her against her
will.

2260
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:06,360
Adam Curry: She cannot resist
she cannot resist.

2261
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:10,290
Unknown: Ms. Carroll told the
jury that he did exactly that to

2262
02:14:10,290 --> 02:14:14,010
her forcibly putting his tiny
fingers into her

2263
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:16,710
Adam Curry: now that doesn't
jive with what he said on the

2264
02:14:16,710 --> 02:14:21,540
tape. He said they let you do
anything. Now it's forcibly I

2265
02:14:21,540 --> 02:14:22,170
mean I'm just

2266
02:14:23,370 --> 02:14:26,070
John C Dvorak: as big gibberish
me forcibly and letting you know

2267
02:14:26,070 --> 02:14:28,320
Adam Curry: I'm an effing here,
obviously and the whole thing is

2268
02:14:28,350 --> 02:14:31,200
you are all thing is horrible.
The whole thing.

2269
02:14:32,340 --> 02:14:34,410
John C Dvorak: This is just
trying to bring back the old

2270
02:14:34,410 --> 02:14:36,690
meme so we can get the list that
I made.

2271
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:39,360
Adam Curry: Yeah, we'll play
that as end of show.

2272
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:41,400
John C Dvorak: Play out of it.
Yes, Trump.

2273
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:43,080
Adam Curry: Trump rotate. It's

2274
02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:45,870
John C Dvorak: just the same and
plus the new stuff, you know,

2275
02:14:45,870 --> 02:14:49,710
which is I've got to add to the
list. Now let me see. Let me

2276
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:51,210
revisit the list. Hold

2277
02:14:51,210 --> 02:14:53,070
Adam Curry: on. Let me see if
she adds anything to the list in

2278
02:14:53,070 --> 02:14:54,870
the next 25 seconds against

2279
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:57,090
Unknown: her will in the
dressing room of a New York City

2280
02:14:57,090 --> 02:14:59,700
Department Store. I'm sorry to
be so blunt, but I think

2281
02:14:59,700 --> 02:15:02,370
sometime I actually forget what
we're talking about here, aka

2282
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:07,140
sexual assault, and then he
serially defamed her.

2283
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:09,900
Adam Curry: I liked that
serially defamed, which of

2284
02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:13,320
course is usually only used in
the context of serial rape. But

2285
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,050
that's a good dude. Job, Joey.
Previous

2286
02:15:16,050 --> 02:15:19,440
Unknown: New York jury ruled
that yes, he did both. And then

2287
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:23,340
he defamed her again and again
and again, leading her to sue

2288
02:15:23,340 --> 02:15:26,760
him again and leading us to
where we stand today.

2289
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,780
Adam Curry: Unfortunately, I
didn't really follow the suit, I

2290
02:15:30,780 --> 02:15:32,730
would like to know because, you
know, where does freedom of

2291
02:15:32,730 --> 02:15:37,800
speech and and where does
defamation start? You know, can

2292
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:39,840
I sue some of the trolls and the
troll room?

2293
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:45,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah. You should.
Yeah, we're talking the way they

2294
02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:45,960
call in Yeah.

2295
02:15:46,350 --> 02:15:47,730
Adam Curry: Oh, all kinds of
things.

2296
02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:51,750
John C Dvorak: We'll stop at
troll room.

2297
02:15:54,630 --> 02:15:57,180
Adam Curry: Let me see. Is there
anything else we need to do?

2298
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:58,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I gotta
play this one clip.

2299
02:15:58,980 --> 02:15:59,760
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.

2300
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:02,220
John C Dvorak: Because we talked
about it earlier. They This is a

2301
02:16:02,220 --> 02:16:06,510
guy on another. This is a nice.
He's a radio guy who has a

2302
02:16:06,510 --> 02:16:09,420
podcast and he brought this
character on

2303
02:16:09,750 --> 02:16:13,410
Adam Curry: another podcast
you're going to love and going

2304
02:16:13,410 --> 02:16:15,360
into the bin, baby. Yeah,

2305
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:19,950
John C Dvorak: that's not good.
And but this was an insane

2306
02:16:19,950 --> 02:16:26,190
analysis of the mystery of the
missing Austin.

2307
02:16:27,540 --> 02:16:28,980
Adam Curry: Austin? Yes, yes.
has been delayed

2308
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,700
John C Dvorak: alysus I think
takes us a little beyond what

2309
02:16:32,700 --> 02:16:33,600
I've been thinking.

2310
02:16:33,630 --> 02:16:37,380
Adam Curry: Let's review for a
second. Awesome was gone. No one

2311
02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:41,040
knew. We're waiting for him to
show up. It takes two weeks then

2312
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:44,970
he shows up in something that
was supposedly his home. We're

2313
02:16:44,970 --> 02:16:48,270
not sure you don't like the
look. You think you know he a

2314
02:16:48,270 --> 02:16:54,210
you know and you think he's, you
don't trust it? Is that a good

2315
02:16:54,210 --> 02:16:55,110
enough backgrounder?

2316
02:16:55,320 --> 02:16:57,570
John C Dvorak: And then it comes
back? He's back in the hospital?

2317
02:16:57,780 --> 02:16:58,080
Yeah.

2318
02:16:58,110 --> 02:17:02,730
Unknown: What's problematic is
this. We have traders within our

2319
02:17:02,730 --> 02:17:05,970
government. And I want to just
finish a statement. I do not

2320
02:17:05,970 --> 02:17:10,770
believe what people saw was a
real defense secretary Austin, I

2321
02:17:10,770 --> 02:17:13,980
believe he disappeared for the
length of time he did, which is

2322
02:17:13,980 --> 02:17:18,720
an abrogation of his duty. And I
believe what we saw was a

2323
02:17:18,720 --> 02:17:23,310
computer generated AI
presentation, people said and

2324
02:17:23,310 --> 02:17:25,140
I'm not a sound engineer. Good
night. I

2325
02:17:25,139 --> 02:17:29,909
have two hearing aids. But sound
engineers have said, it's not

2326
02:17:29,939 --> 02:17:34,829
the same voice. They can some of
these guys are sophisticated. So

2327
02:17:34,829 --> 02:17:35,699
what am I saying?

2328
02:17:36,090 --> 02:17:40,920
What is the real story was
Austin in Ukraine, when Russia

2329
02:17:41,310 --> 02:17:45,870
basically blew the hell out of a
NATO bunker. While the rumor is

2330
02:17:45,870 --> 02:17:49,230
yes, and even the Russian
Defense Ministry said he's dead.

2331
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:53,520
So how can people go on
believing lies when there is

2332
02:17:53,520 --> 02:17:54,870
zero credibility? So

2333
02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:59,550
what I'm saying is computer
generated imagery matched with

2334
02:17:59,610 --> 02:18:05,340
AI and I don't buy artificial
intelligence I buy this AI and I

2335
02:18:05,340 --> 02:18:08,790
think I'm the first guy that
said it as alien interference

2336
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:12,630
alien intelligence alien meaning
foreign to humanity. It can be

2337
02:18:12,630 --> 02:18:15,720
demons it can be fallen angels
it can be you know the little

2338
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:21,120
less. What is alien
interference?

2339
02:18:21,510 --> 02:18:26,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I alien
interference. I now am inside.

2340
02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:30,780
Does that take Alex Jones it go
for this? This has fallen

2341
02:18:30,779 --> 02:18:33,869
Adam Curry: angels. I now have
to go back and do a sound

2342
02:18:33,869 --> 02:18:40,979
analysis of of a home homebound
Austin versus you could previous

2343
02:18:40,979 --> 02:18:42,419
Austin that's I believe

2344
02:18:42,420 --> 02:18:46,590
John C Dvorak: it's so echoey
the homebound Yeah, that you can

2345
02:18:46,620 --> 02:18:50,490
do the analysis would be not
valid. I

2346
02:18:50,490 --> 02:18:52,500
Adam Curry: think because you
played that clip. I think you

2347
02:18:52,500 --> 02:18:56,700
got to Theramin it's been a long
time but you deserve it. You

2348
02:18:56,700 --> 02:19:00,420
deserve a Theramin Hey, Willie
in interference. I'd like to

2349
02:19:00,420 --> 02:19:02,790
thank you for your curtseying
the morning to you the man who

2350
02:19:02,790 --> 02:19:05,520
put the scene conscription say
hello to my friend on the other

2351
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:06,960
end the one and only Mr. Jobs

2352
02:19:11,580 --> 02:19:12,900
John C Dvorak: in the morning
all ships you see boots on the

2353
02:19:12,900 --> 02:19:15,750
ground feed near subs in the
water. And all the days and

2354
02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:16,590
nights out there in

2355
02:19:16,590 --> 02:19:18,840
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls control room. Hello troll

2356
02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:30,390
stick a few 1920 on the counter
today listening to us 1920 How's

2357
02:19:30,390 --> 02:19:36,930
that stack up? This sucks. It's
because of your china clip.

2358
02:19:37,530 --> 02:19:40,440
John C Dvorak: One low and China
clip that was one minute long.

2359
02:19:40,530 --> 02:19:45,120
Adam Curry: I'm telling you that
China clip does it man. You can

2360
02:19:45,810 --> 02:19:48,330
follow along with all of the
trolls. It's very feisty in

2361
02:19:48,330 --> 02:19:53,400
there today. It's kind it's kind
of interesting. It's a very good

2362
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:58,710
indicator of the I'll just call
it the troll spun up meter. You

2363
02:19:58,710 --> 02:20:02,850
can see you ha boy trolls are
out of control today. Even void

2364
02:20:02,850 --> 02:20:05,850
zero went in and said hey,
simmer down people now that's

2365
02:20:05,850 --> 02:20:12,990
like you got daddy mad. Daddy
mad when void zero comes in. You

2366
02:20:12,990 --> 02:20:16,380
can be a troll by going to troll
room.io You can listen to the no

2367
02:20:16,380 --> 02:20:19,710
agenda stream there. 24/7
There's all kinds of groovy

2368
02:20:19,710 --> 02:20:24,720
podcasts on 24 hours a day many
of them live, which is fun. You

2369
02:20:24,720 --> 02:20:27,990
know, everyone trolls long does
other things. It's good. Yeah,

2370
02:20:27,990 --> 02:20:32,010
we have. We start with the blues
and bluegrass, I forget what

2371
02:20:32,010 --> 02:20:36,030
it's called. Show on Sunday
morning, followed by Darren

2372
02:20:36,030 --> 02:20:40,020
O'Neal. I mean, it's it's it's a
great group, we have that hang

2373
02:20:40,020 --> 02:20:44,490
out there. 24/7. You could also
use a modern podcast app, where

2374
02:20:44,490 --> 02:20:47,820
you get alerted when, when this
show goes live when many shows

2375
02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:51,300
go live. Also, when the show
posts, let's say you can't

2376
02:20:51,330 --> 02:20:56,400
listen live. Within 90 seconds.
You get an alert. And you could

2377
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:58,590
tap right in and listen live.
That's some that's some

2378
02:20:58,590 --> 02:21:01,260
newfangled stuff right there.
And I'm happy to announce John

2379
02:21:02,250 --> 02:21:06,450
that Apple podcasts, Apple, the
big Silicon Valley company has

2380
02:21:06,450 --> 02:21:13,500
capitulated. They have added a
piece of functionality developed

2381
02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:19,170
by the podcasting 2.0 group.
They've capiche this is just the

2382
02:21:19,170 --> 02:21:20,400
beginning they've cracked.

2383
02:21:21,180 --> 02:21:23,340
John C Dvorak: And they I don't
know if you want to use the word

2384
02:21:23,340 --> 02:21:26,700
capitulated. I'd say that they
wised up. Yeah,

2385
02:21:26,700 --> 02:21:30,090
Adam Curry: wised up is a good
it's probably friendlier. Yeah,

2386
02:21:30,390 --> 02:21:32,550
John C Dvorak: usually makes it
seem like they were forced or

2387
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:35,010
something they weren't forced,
didn't have to do it.

2388
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:37,320
Adam Curry: No, that's true. I
mean, there's the podcast

2389
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:40,980
industrial complex. What happens
is, we develop something and

2390
02:21:40,980 --> 02:21:43,980
then Spotify goes and does their
own version, and then it fails.

2391
02:21:45,150 --> 02:21:47,880
So one of the first things we
did in podcasting, 2.0 is

2392
02:21:47,880 --> 02:21:51,060
transcripts. And all these
modern podcast apps have

2393
02:21:51,060 --> 02:21:54,180
transcripts, you can follow
along, you can search them, and

2394
02:21:54,180 --> 02:21:57,300
Apple is now adding that
functionality to the Apple

2395
02:21:57,300 --> 02:22:00,690
podcast. So that's, that's just
the beginning. We're taking over

2396
02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:03,930
them very slowly. Now, if you
want to make sure that your

2397
02:22:03,930 --> 02:22:06,780
podcast is always in your
podcast app, because sometimes

2398
02:22:06,780 --> 02:22:10,470
things disappear on some of
those bigger apps, you will want

2399
02:22:10,470 --> 02:22:14,460
to get a modern one at modern
podcast apps.com. We actually

2400
02:22:14,460 --> 02:22:17,610
said we put them on the list at
the bottom, you have one feature

2401
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:22,140
you get on the modern podcast
apps list at the bottom. We're

2402
02:22:22,140 --> 02:22:27,690
happy to have him for that.
Value for value is I have got a

2403
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:30,630
note about value for value. I
wanted to ask you about one of

2404
02:22:30,630 --> 02:22:36,210
our producers. Let me see.
Joshua, okay. Can I just read

2405
02:22:36,210 --> 02:22:39,570
this to you for a second? Yeah.
All yours. Now, he says, I've

2406
02:22:39,570 --> 02:22:41,880
been writing this email to you
all week in my head finally had

2407
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:44,700
a chance to type it up. I love
the V for V model, think you do

2408
02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:47,580
an excellent job of promoting
it. Thank you. Well, John, and I

2409
02:22:47,820 --> 02:22:51,660
pioneered it. Which brings me to
the point of my email. He's a

2410
02:22:51,660 --> 02:22:55,200
sixth grade teacher. He's email
boots on the ground, absolutely

2411
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:57,360
fed up with the way education
have done, the country has been

2412
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:00,690
thinking a lot about some kind
of education model based around

2413
02:23:00,690 --> 02:23:03,690
Wii for Wii. I'm very curious
about what your thoughts might

2414
02:23:03,690 --> 02:23:06,450
be on this. If you think this is
something that could work is

2415
02:23:06,450 --> 02:23:08,760
value for value, something you
think only works in the

2416
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:11,310
podcasting, entertainment
industry, or do you think it

2417
02:23:11,310 --> 02:23:14,580
could be expanded beyond that?
John, you are very familiar with

2418
02:23:14,580 --> 02:23:16,890
scholastic systems, your
thoughts?

2419
02:23:18,900 --> 02:23:21,120
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
already been expanded. It's also

2420
02:23:21,150 --> 02:23:24,750
the model used initially by
public broadcasting Public

2421
02:23:24,750 --> 02:23:29,040
Radio, public TV, and also you
can't overlook the churches.

2422
02:23:29,070 --> 02:23:32,340
Yes. And you can actually
overlook any a lot of public

2423
02:23:32,340 --> 02:23:39,750
institutions like museums that
have have used the value for

2424
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:45,450
value mechanism, but they just
kind of skewed differently. But

2425
02:23:45,450 --> 02:23:48,090
it's still basically the same
thing. Yes, it could work. I

2426
02:23:48,090 --> 02:23:51,240
don't see why not. It would have
to be structured in a way that

2427
02:23:51,240 --> 02:23:54,930
would be acceptable to the
participants. And I don't know

2428
02:23:54,930 --> 02:23:57,090
how you Dad, I don't know how to
do it. I

2429
02:23:57,090 --> 02:23:59,520
Adam Curry: think the main thing
that people forget about value

2430
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:03,390
for value is you need to ask, if
you don't ask, you're not going

2431
02:24:03,390 --> 02:24:08,370
to get so it's isn't it really
about asking? Well, asking

2432
02:24:08,370 --> 02:24:11,700
John C Dvorak: is it is a big
part. A big part of it. If you

2433
02:24:11,700 --> 02:24:15,270
haven't got the wherewithal to
ask, yes. Which is

2434
02:24:15,630 --> 02:24:17,850
Adam Curry: a lot of people have
difficulty with they find it

2435
02:24:17,850 --> 02:24:21,990
very hard to ask. Yeah, I agree.
You got to ask well,

2436
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:24,150
John C Dvorak: and he has to be
sincere when you ask you can't

2437
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:30,600
just ask like a wimp exactly
like a tip jar. Yeah, you do.

2438
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:32,010
Get a tip jar.

2439
02:24:33,420 --> 02:24:35,880
Adam Curry: And you have to take
checks. Do not

2440
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:40,950
John C Dvorak: as an inside joke
as a very inside joke. He or she

2441
02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:43,770
had to take checks checks are a
big deal. They

2442
02:24:43,770 --> 02:24:46,560
Adam Curry: are a big deal. And
now and we also have stripe now

2443
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:49,860
which is we're seeing people
from all over the world starting

2444
02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:51,180
to stripe

2445
02:24:51,180 --> 02:24:54,480
John C Dvorak: allows you to pay
pal, I don't know when this

2446
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:59,730
happened, but they some
countries like New Zealand. Oh I

2447
02:24:59,730 --> 02:25:03,660
think Australia to some extent
here for sure. Indian, they

2448
02:25:03,660 --> 02:25:07,470
won't just want to take PayPal
for whatever reason. Yeah, so we

2449
02:25:07,470 --> 02:25:10,350
have a stripe available. I think
that's pretty International. And

2450
02:25:10,350 --> 02:25:14,250
then the other one that showing
up now is people put through

2451
02:25:14,250 --> 02:25:18,570
their bank or using wise. Yeah,
and that seems to come through

2452
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:23,160
Adam Curry: wise really is
always interesting.

2453
02:25:23,970 --> 02:25:26,430
John C Dvorak: Just to it's like
pop money was I mean, it's like

2454
02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:28,470
what happened whatever happened
to them by the way?

2455
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:32,940
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, they
dried up and blew away. Well,

2456
02:25:32,970 --> 02:25:36,300
value for value can come in many
really in three forms time,

2457
02:25:36,300 --> 02:25:39,780
talent, treasure time and talent
is very big for us because that

2458
02:25:39,810 --> 02:25:42,720
directly goes to our bottom
line. That's things we don't

2459
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:46,650
have to do. Speaking avoid zero.
Thank you void zero. Look at the

2460
02:25:46,650 --> 02:25:50,190
infrastructure that he's been
running. He's upgrading the NEC,

2461
02:25:50,220 --> 02:25:52,800
he's not doing it on show days,
which is great. So we're happy.

2462
02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:58,320
It's working. We have HK we've
never built a website ourself. I

2463
02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:05,070
don't think Tim has built no
agenda show.net We have Daniel

2464
02:26:05,070 --> 02:26:09,060
does the meetup website of
course, Sir Paul couture, who

2465
02:26:09,060 --> 02:26:13,770
not only did the nogen our
generator but upgraded it and

2466
02:26:13,770 --> 02:26:17,460
made it lickety split. He
probably put like a huge, a huge

2467
02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:20,220
piece of iron on it because we
were complaining. Everybody's

2468
02:26:20,220 --> 02:26:24,930
like it's slow. He's like, I
watch this. I'll fix Yeah. Then

2469
02:26:24,930 --> 02:26:27,480
he did. And we appreciate that
as we do with the artists who

2470
02:26:27,480 --> 02:26:31,320
upload art, whether you use AI
or not, and it's really about

2471
02:26:31,320 --> 02:26:36,930
the intent. It's about the
humor. Being people artists

2472
02:26:36,930 --> 02:26:40,110
often listen to the show and
they they guess what topics

2473
02:26:40,110 --> 02:26:44,640
we're going to be going through
it turns out to be a mistake

2474
02:26:44,670 --> 02:26:47,640
they really miss it usually on
that but they

2475
02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:51,330
John C Dvorak: present when we
get to the art later when we're

2476
02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:53,790
after the show's over we go over
and we look at this an

2477
02:26:53,790 --> 02:26:57,840
interesting topic that we didn't
discuss. But you know, it's like

2478
02:26:57,870 --> 02:26:58,740
come on. Well, we

2479
02:26:58,740 --> 02:27:02,100
Adam Curry: did discuss Texas we
did discuss Barbie and Francisco

2480
02:27:02,100 --> 02:27:09,090
Scaramanga he got it he nailed
it with the with the Barbie with

2481
02:27:09,090 --> 02:27:13,680
their AR 15 was in our looks
like an AR 15 It looks like a

2482
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:18,570
hybrid ar 15 shotguns somehow
with a big Texas flag

2483
02:27:18,570 --> 02:27:23,160
beautifully done. We did look at
a couple other let me see there

2484
02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:26,940
was a lot of lot of submissions.
Let's take a look at what we had

2485
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:27,390
for the

2486
02:27:27,390 --> 02:27:29,670
John C Dvorak: last year the
reason for this particular piece

2487
02:27:29,940 --> 02:27:37,560
it really stood out as slick
pretty made the point a little

2488
02:27:37,950 --> 02:27:41,910
you know the Barbie contrasting
with the shotgun and everything

2489
02:27:41,910 --> 02:27:44,370
was just it's just a great
piece. Do you think this was a

2490
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:46,020
good work generally speaking

2491
02:27:46,050 --> 02:27:47,220
Adam Curry: Do you think this
was aI

2492
02:27:50,190 --> 02:27:52,710
John C Dvorak: it looks like it
might be my heart AI and maybe

2493
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:55,080
some AI involved? Yeah, no no

2494
02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:58,140
Adam Curry: certainly not our
logo and all that stuff that the

2495
02:27:58,140 --> 02:27:59,850
no way that AI does know

2496
02:27:59,850 --> 02:28:01,380
John C Dvorak: today is just too
much work.

2497
02:28:01,950 --> 02:28:06,720
Adam Curry: Yeah, when you use
it as a tool, it's good. And

2498
02:28:07,140 --> 02:28:12,540
those had heroes John, I liked
the stars on her boobs.

2499
02:28:13,320 --> 02:28:15,000
John C Dvorak: I didn't say that
you did

2500
02:28:18,420 --> 02:28:23,010
Adam Curry: okay, all right lies
then there was the Barbie

2501
02:28:23,010 --> 02:28:29,340
snubbed Barbie with a little her
little Oscar? Was that from

2502
02:28:29,460 --> 02:28:30,780
comic strip blogger

2503
02:28:32,040 --> 02:28:33,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was a
I

2504
02:28:33,900 --> 02:28:38,430
Adam Curry: Darrin O'Neill had
his super aI don't mess with

2505
02:28:38,430 --> 02:28:43,800
Texas with the I guess it looks
like a cowboy with some razor

2506
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:49,890
wire Oh What else is there I
don't know if there's anything

2507
02:28:49,890 --> 02:28:54,120
else that the yeah there's some
Obama's with a Big Mike pin I

2508
02:28:54,120 --> 02:28:59,340
didn't It's too small didn't
really work. Who 33 I don't know

2509
02:28:59,370 --> 02:29:03,450
there was there and really I
guess that was it was just the

2510
02:29:03,450 --> 02:29:07,470
best one it just it popped pop
was there anything else?

2511
02:29:08,610 --> 02:29:11,970
John C Dvorak: No not really. I
mean I did like the duck by

2512
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:13,920
madmen it made Marriott

2513
02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:18,810
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. The duck
in the air

2514
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:23,100
John C Dvorak: about it Yeah,

2515
02:29:23,130 --> 02:29:26,280
Adam Curry: well oh wait there's
another bar Oh, I'd like to the

2516
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:30,450
no agenda Barbie. And we I think
we both thought that that was

2517
02:29:30,450 --> 02:29:36,060
actionable. The one that was
down at the bottom and 5 million

2518
02:29:36,060 --> 02:29:38,610
John C Dvorak: then the real an
actual Barbie Yeah, that I think

2519
02:29:38,610 --> 02:29:43,110
is actionable. Yeah, we got to
because it's using a finger to

2520
02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:46,470
do advertising for the show in
the way we're holding the sign.

2521
02:29:46,500 --> 02:29:49,440
Yeah, we got to buy I think it's
probably sketchy.

2522
02:29:51,990 --> 02:29:54,180
Adam Curry: Well, Francisco
Scott a manga thank you so much

2523
02:29:54,180 --> 02:29:58,200
for supporting us with your
talent and with your time. It is

2524
02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:01,050
highly appreciated the work of
all the art It is always

2525
02:30:01,050 --> 02:30:04,680
appreciated. No agenda art
generator.com You can follow

2526
02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:09,060
along live during the show you
can go back and take a look at

2527
02:30:09,060 --> 02:30:12,690
any time these also show up I
don't know if it has the no

2528
02:30:12,690 --> 02:30:15,720
agenda shop done anything new
recently. They're probably just

2529
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:20,670
looking at like wow this is all
AI is any good? Nowadays no, no

2530
02:30:20,670 --> 02:30:21,330
agenda shop

2531
02:30:21,330 --> 02:30:22,590
John C Dvorak: do we need to
hear from them?

2532
02:30:22,620 --> 02:30:26,910
Adam Curry: Yes, T shirts,
sweatshirts, hoodies, koozies

2533
02:30:26,910 --> 02:30:32,070
cozies everything, you name it,
they got it they they split the

2534
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:34,440
revenue with the artists and
from time to time they give us a

2535
02:30:34,440 --> 02:30:37,260
donation. We have no contractual
agreement with them, which we

2536
02:30:37,260 --> 02:30:41,130
love. No meetings either. It's
just fabulous. Love working that

2537
02:30:41,130 --> 02:30:44,070
way. And if you use one of those
mountain podcast apps, Dred

2538
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:47,970
Scott uses all of these images
for the chapter art coming to

2539
02:30:47,970 --> 02:30:53,640
Apple podcast soon. I'm sure.
Thank you for the treasure to

2540
02:30:53,640 --> 02:30:55,950
the following. People are
executive producers and our

2541
02:30:55,950 --> 02:30:59,010
Associate Executive Producers
anything above $300, your

2542
02:30:59,010 --> 02:31:03,420
executive producer, it's a real
title. You can use it on IMDb as

2543
02:31:03,420 --> 02:31:06,660
proof that it is a real title.
It's accepted by Hollywood. You

2544
02:31:06,660 --> 02:31:09,450
can put it on your LinkedIn
profile on your resume. And

2545
02:31:09,450 --> 02:31:12,240
unlike the douchebags in
Hollywood, we will vouch for you

2546
02:31:12,570 --> 02:31:17,100
to say yes, that person actually
produced the show. 100% Cody

2547
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:20,070
Smith would be our top executive
producer from tells Tulsa

2548
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:25,980
Oklahoma. He's listed in blue,
which means his 105 2.62 brings

2549
02:31:25,980 --> 02:31:29,190
him a knighthood. Hey, brothers,
he says I'm technically a knight

2550
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:32,850
already. But I came across some
good fortune and wanted to share

2551
02:31:32,850 --> 02:31:37,080
my treasure with you. Thank you.
That's very kind. Please name me

2552
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:40,380
knights. Smitty, lover of all
and determined believer in the

2553
02:31:40,380 --> 02:31:44,940
distributed ledger. Love you. I
love you too, brother. Thank

2554
02:31:44,940 --> 02:31:46,680
you. I'll see you on the podium
and just a little bit

2555
02:31:48,420 --> 02:31:50,100
John C Dvorak: habitually.
That's Bitcoin money.

2556
02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:51,240
Adam Curry: I think it is.

2557
02:31:52,740 --> 02:31:56,070
John C Dvorak: Chris Hamilton's
up. He's in Benbrook, Texas

2558
02:31:56,400 --> 02:32:00,510
33333. I happened to be one of
your bakery worker listeners.

2559
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:03,570
Yeah, I have been meaning to
donate for a while but kept

2560
02:32:03,570 --> 02:32:05,880
putting it off. Well, now he's
got some dough.

2561
02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:10,500
Adam Curry: Since you mentioned
Oh, hey. Oh, took me a second.

2562
02:32:10,530 --> 02:32:11,610
Yes, very good.

2563
02:32:11,820 --> 02:32:13,800
John C Dvorak: Since you
mentioned the bakery workers in

2564
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:17,820
the last show. I knew it was
assigned to donate. Please

2565
02:32:17,820 --> 02:32:18,690
deduce me?

2566
02:32:20,430 --> 02:32:23,130
Unknown: You've been de deuced
to please

2567
02:32:23,130 --> 02:32:25,860
John C Dvorak: mention the
bakery Glitz bakery in Fort

2568
02:32:25,860 --> 02:32:30,600
Worth, Texas. So this will count
is advertising. Brought to you

2569
02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:34,410
to you and your accountant.
Thank you and God bless no

2570
02:32:34,410 --> 02:32:37,800
jingles no karma. Chris Hamilton
Fort Worth Texas. The glitz

2571
02:32:37,830 --> 02:32:38,640
bakery.

2572
02:32:38,700 --> 02:32:39,720
Adam Curry: And we are Hi.

2573
02:32:40,740 --> 02:32:44,280
John C Dvorak: Hi. And say hi.
When you go into the glutes

2574
02:32:44,280 --> 02:32:44,820
bakery.

2575
02:32:45,210 --> 02:32:46,380
Adam Curry: No say ITM

2576
02:32:47,700 --> 02:32:49,260
John C Dvorak: ITM CITM.

2577
02:32:49,410 --> 02:32:51,690
Adam Curry: Yeah, or use code
bond Gino?

2578
02:32:52,530 --> 02:32:53,520
John C Dvorak: Where's Chris?

2579
02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:59,580
Adam Curry: Where's Chris that
rat bastard There you go. We

2580
02:32:59,580 --> 02:33:02,880
dropped down to our Associate
Executive Producers 200 above

2581
02:33:02,880 --> 02:33:07,770
Dame Roundstone from Turnbull,
Connecticut 23456 We love that

2582
02:33:07,770 --> 02:33:12,210
number and she's throwing a bone
to the sad puppy she says please

2583
02:33:12,210 --> 02:33:17,550
switch route to my husband,
Storm and Norman alright. Make

2584
02:33:17,550 --> 02:33:21,420
sure we have that. That's very
sweet. I love it when when

2585
02:33:21,420 --> 02:33:25,080
spouses do that, that's so kind.
Put that towards his knighthood

2586
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:30,510
you do the accounting right off
plug if you can need writing

2587
02:33:30,510 --> 02:33:34,080
recording or editing checkout
Rand content dot Rand our

2588
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:38,100
content.com That's Rand our
content.com free editing for

2589
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:42,810
meetup drops please code Bong,
Gino. If you don't give us a

2590
02:33:42,810 --> 02:33:44,760
code, it's going to be Bungie
No. Okay.

2591
02:33:46,650 --> 02:33:54,030
John C Dvorak: Ryan de Blasio in
Fishers Indiana. tu tu tu tu tu.

2592
02:33:54,060 --> 02:33:57,780
Rove ducks ITM jotted down. I'm
living in loving the carnivore

2593
02:33:57,780 --> 02:34:01,440
life. Therefore I can kind of
get a brisket for my birthday.

2594
02:34:03,180 --> 02:34:05,790
Unknown: They always give me a
brisket on my birthday.

2595
02:34:06,750 --> 02:34:09,690
John C Dvorak: And added to the
birthday list for the 20 a year

2596
02:34:09,690 --> 02:34:14,400
on it. Thank you for your
courage. Ryan Diaz zo de Blasio

2597
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:16,800
de Blasio in Fishers Indiana.

2598
02:34:17,550 --> 02:34:21,450
Adam Curry: Sir Kaz Brighton,
England. Hello, Brighton. I've

2599
02:34:21,450 --> 02:34:26,250
been to Brighton. I saw Joan
Collins in Brighton. For some

2600
02:34:26,250 --> 02:34:30,180
reason. tu tu tu tu tu Hey, John
and Adam sent a donation of tu

2601
02:34:30,180 --> 02:34:33,030
tu tu tu tu tu via stripe today.
We got it. Thank you. No

2602
02:34:33,030 --> 02:34:37,530
jingles. No big note just some
restore older yacht karma would

2603
02:34:37,530 --> 02:34:39,990
be appreciated. Yeah, he's on
the coast there and brighten.

2604
02:34:40,140 --> 02:34:44,610
You've got karma and pictures, I
want to say brightens right on

2605
02:34:44,610 --> 02:34:46,920
the coast. I'd love to see the
pictures of your old yacht.

2606
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:47,700
You're restoring

2607
02:34:48,510 --> 02:34:51,540
John C Dvorak: Eli the coffee
guys from Bensenville Illinois.

2608
02:34:52,020 --> 02:34:55,080
Maybe it's the sad puppy in the
newsletter or maybe it's the

2609
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:57,720
high quality media
deconstruction but I felt the

2610
02:34:57,720 --> 02:35:01,620
need to donate sad puppy didn't
for reduce as much as we'd hope

2611
02:35:01,710 --> 02:35:05,490
no. Thursday's breakdown of the
Carey Lake recordings provided

2612
02:35:05,490 --> 02:35:09,060
an excellent perspective. Keep
up the good work gents, two

2613
02:35:09,060 --> 02:35:12,600
producers in the Chicagoland
area check out Napier Ville

2614
02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:16,980
meetup for Naperville, sorry, at
Quigley's Irish pub on Tuesday,

2615
02:35:16,980 --> 02:35:20,670
February 6. Thanks to Arthur,
Arthur Arthur for putting it

2616
02:35:20,670 --> 02:35:24,780
together and to all no agenda
producers. Visit gigawatt coffee

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02:35:24,780 --> 02:35:31,680
roasters.com and use code ATM 20
for 20% off your coffee order N

2618
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:36,180
J. N K stay caffeinated Seelye,
the coffee guy. So

2619
02:35:36,180 --> 02:35:38,520
Adam Curry: here's some bonus
content inserted into your

2620
02:35:38,520 --> 02:35:45,000
donation segment. I got an
unedited version of the Kerry

2621
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:53,040
Lake. Recording. In fact, it
also was accompanied by a note

2622
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:57,930
from our producers, who says
Damn, Jeff DeWit is one of the

2623
02:35:57,930 --> 02:36:01,260
good guys. He has helped a bunch
of people I know get gigs and

2624
02:36:01,260 --> 02:36:05,220
Trump's wake lake was bitter
that Trump was coming in to

2625
02:36:05,220 --> 02:36:08,580
raise money for DeWitt. That's
the guy who got who resigned.

2626
02:36:09,060 --> 02:36:13,860
And the Arizona GOP and not her.
She was not scheduled to be a

2627
02:36:13,860 --> 02:36:18,090
speaker or get any money from
Friday's event. first clue about

2628
02:36:18,090 --> 02:36:21,330
Lake was running for Senator
while contesting 2022. Governor

2629
02:36:21,330 --> 02:36:25,800
race. She has been running for
VP since 2020. To do we'll have

2630
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:29,340
the last laugh. Blake just
committed political hierarchy

2631
02:36:29,340 --> 02:36:35,520
theory. So now I was not able to
clip it because it's it's it's

2632
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:40,890
not good for audio clipping. But
the way it came out the way it

2633
02:36:40,890 --> 02:36:46,530
was presented to us. I would I
have to say, the context and

2634
02:36:46,530 --> 02:36:51,060
nuance was edited out. That
sounded much more like he was

2635
02:36:51,060 --> 02:36:54,000
reporting to her what was coming
down the pike and not

2636
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:56,940
necessarily there to bribe her.

2637
02:36:57,810 --> 02:37:00,360
John C Dvorak: So that would be
that would make sense to me. I

2638
02:37:00,360 --> 02:37:02,490
thought the whole thing was
rigged. Yeah.

2639
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:06,990
Adam Curry: So and I did put the
link to this full recording,

2640
02:37:06,990 --> 02:37:10,050
particularly the beginning as a
lot of the beginning that was

2641
02:37:10,050 --> 02:37:12,930
not in the released version. And
there's some other bits that's

2642
02:37:12,930 --> 02:37:16,530
just taken out that's taken out
where he's kind of going yeah,

2643
02:37:16,530 --> 02:37:20,550
you know, that's what these guys
do that kind of stuff. So I

2644
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:24,690
would have to say that was there
was definitely there's multiple

2645
02:37:24,690 --> 02:37:28,620
sides of that story. Carrie Lake
may not be the heroine that she

2646
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:35,310
appears to be. We I love our
producers, sir. Mostly nerd.

2647
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:39,090
$200 No jingles, no karma. And
no note? That's right. We'll

2648
02:37:39,090 --> 02:37:41,460
still give you a double up karma
for that. Thank you so much.

2649
02:37:41,490 --> 02:37:45,030
You've got karma.

2650
02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:49,080
John C Dvorak: Right there at
the bottom of the list is Linda

2651
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:52,050
lapad. Can you know where she
is? She's in Lakewood, Colorado,

2652
02:37:52,050 --> 02:37:56,100
and she donates 200 bucks every
show. So I can read her note

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02:37:56,220 --> 02:37:59,250
jobs karma for a remarkable
resume that gets results go to

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search needs to which he wrote
it's image makers Inc with a

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k.com. Or just find Linda Lou
packin under the show's producer

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list jobs,

2658
02:38:12,510 --> 02:38:15,060
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs

2659
02:38:16,440 --> 02:38:18,360
John C Dvorak: must be paying
off for her. Yes.

2660
02:38:19,290 --> 02:38:22,950
Adam Curry: Now I would like to
say that although we're happy to

2661
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:26,460
read your code bond, Gino and
all that the concept of value

2662
02:38:26,460 --> 02:38:31,230
for value is sometimes it gets a
little distorted. We give you

2663
02:38:31,230 --> 02:38:36,450
the value six hours plus per
week, up front, no questions

2664
02:38:36,450 --> 02:38:39,450
asked. Until we get to the
donation segment, we asked you

2665
02:38:39,450 --> 02:38:45,540
to return some value if you got
value from it. 898,000 people

2666
02:38:45,540 --> 02:38:50,970
listen to this show. In the
month of December. The number of

2667
02:38:50,970 --> 02:38:54,270
people donating of any amount
really doesn't show

2668
02:38:54,300 --> 02:38:56,400
John C Dvorak: it's under 50.
Today. Yeah.

2669
02:38:57,930 --> 02:39:01,230
Adam Curry: So it's okay.
Because if we're not doing the

2670
02:39:01,230 --> 02:39:03,450
job, you're not getting the
value, we're gonna have to find

2671
02:39:03,450 --> 02:39:07,380
something else to do eventually.
But we appreciate our executive

2672
02:39:07,380 --> 02:39:10,110
and Associate Executive
producers who always do make up

2673
02:39:10,110 --> 02:39:12,870
the difference for us that's
been going well for 16 years.

2674
02:39:13,140 --> 02:39:17,040
Just consider any value you
receive. Send it back. We

2675
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:21,900
appreciate everyone under $50.
We appreciate the $5 people on

2676
02:39:21,900 --> 02:39:24,930
sustaining donations, just
consider giving some treasure

2677
02:39:24,930 --> 02:39:27,870
from time to time and of course
time and talent is always

2678
02:39:27,870 --> 02:39:30,750
appreciated. John is gonna take
us through to those 50s and

2679
02:39:30,750 --> 02:39:34,410
we'll come back with our meetups
and with our two nights.

2680
02:39:35,100 --> 02:39:39,390
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's start
with I guess his Doosan Palo

2681
02:39:39,390 --> 02:39:45,870
moto in Oviedo, Florida all
these are impossible to say $110

2682
02:39:45,870 --> 02:39:50,280
And he does say or she could be
a sheep now is a great work.

2683
02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:58,290
Andrew Gardner in Leonard town,
Maryland. 100 bucks. He's on the

2684
02:39:58,290 --> 02:40:02,100
birthday list and he wants to
call All Out Sir Elliot Gardner

2685
02:40:02,370 --> 02:40:15,600
and Joel Cox as D bags. Not sure
why. Sir Elliott would be called

2686
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:20,250
out but they got a few line 13 I
got no name.

2687
02:40:22,590 --> 02:40:25,710
Adam Curry: That's me neither. I
got no name. Well,

2688
02:40:25,710 --> 02:40:29,610
John C Dvorak: somebody sent us
$88.92 Thank you very much.

2689
02:40:30,210 --> 02:40:34,230
Kevin McLaughlin is next from
Concord North Carolina. 808

2690
02:40:34,500 --> 02:40:40,170
Boobs the ultimate traffic
stopper. Yep. William Alston.

2691
02:40:40,170 --> 02:40:46,680
8080 He's got the oh, there's
something Oh, that I had to read

2692
02:40:46,680 --> 02:40:51,240
this little note there but the
helium reserve Renegade, six in

2693
02:40:51,240 --> 02:40:56,820
Caldwell, Texas 7777 Does a
switcheroo to sparkles of chaos,

2694
02:40:56,820 --> 02:41:00,450
sparkles of chaos and her
birthday is coming up. Gary

2695
02:41:00,450 --> 02:41:05,940
Blatt. 7777. Jeremy in Jerome.
Oh, this is interesting. Your

2696
02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:12,480
name is Jeremy and you live in
Jerome, Idaho to 75 I was gonna

2697
02:41:12,480 --> 02:41:18,270
move to John California. Sir Don
in Chandler, Arizona. 606.

2698
02:41:19,140 --> 02:41:25,320
Spencer Pollock in Tulsa,
Oklahoma, switcheroo to

2699
02:41:25,320 --> 02:41:34,260
Guantanamo Bay. Be a German at
606 Jeremy another Jeremy in

2700
02:41:34,260 --> 02:41:37,860
Amherst, Ohio. 606 needs a D
douching.

2701
02:41:39,780 --> 02:41:41,610
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2702
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:47,790
John C Dvorak: Steve Ben
district band band strat bas the

2703
02:41:47,790 --> 02:41:52,350
Behringer BNA in Nashville,
Tennessee 5993 sure not Jake. In

2704
02:41:52,350 --> 02:41:58,440
Thompson, Connecticut 5678 and
credit sad puppy. Haley Curtis

2705
02:41:58,440 --> 02:42:02,580
coming again by the way looks at
things Haley Curtis in Tulsa,

2706
02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:08,730
Oklahoma switcheroo to Spencer
Pawlik of Tulsa didn't we have

2707
02:42:08,730 --> 02:42:11,520
dispensaries already donated?
Oh, no, that's funny. The two of

2708
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:12,150
them don't leave

2709
02:42:12,150 --> 02:42:15,090
Adam Curry: to each other for
the Switch value

2710
02:42:15,600 --> 02:42:20,010
John C Dvorak: and never had a
face as Peter Chung 5510

2711
02:42:20,010 --> 02:42:24,630
Surprise surprise night of
astonishment. In Yukon Oklahoma.

2712
02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:34,200
5444 Sure, recalcitrant crazy
Steve the second 5150 is going

2713
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:36,660
to be at the meet at no some
veto. He's not going to be at

2714
02:42:36,660 --> 02:42:41,250
the meetup. Scott McCarty in
Lodi. 50 And these are all 50 By

2715
02:42:41,250 --> 02:42:44,640
the way, Scott Nelson and
Council Bluffs, Iowa 5001. Now

2716
02:42:44,640 --> 02:42:47,610
Scott McCarty and the rest of
these are all $50 donors name

2717
02:42:47,610 --> 02:42:51,510
and location starting with
Scott, then Brian M and Heiser

2718
02:42:51,510 --> 02:42:54,570
in Lancaster, California for
Scott Brinkley and

2719
02:42:54,570 --> 02:42:58,440
Christiansburg. Virginia, Shanna
Norberg and Seattle Washington

2720
02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:03,450
Jack Schofield field in
yankeetown, Florida, Richard

2721
02:43:03,480 --> 02:43:07,140
Gardner, I believe in New York
City I could be wrong. Michael

2722
02:43:07,950 --> 02:43:13,590
Elmore in Gastonia North
Carolina, Aaron wise Gerber in

2723
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:17,460
Bend Oregon, John Taylor in
Florissant, Colorado ZEV green

2724
02:43:17,460 --> 02:43:24,090
in Teaneck, New Jersey, Titus
Chow in Houston, Texas. J.

2725
02:43:24,090 --> 02:43:28,500
Alvarez in Meridian,
Connecticut. Byron P. Belen, in

2726
02:43:28,530 --> 02:43:34,710
Ashbury, New Jersey. KENNETH Pio
a Ryan Kenneth Ryan in Bonita

2727
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:37,530
Springs, Florida. And last on
the list is Michael Baker in

2728
02:43:37,530 --> 02:43:40,830
Quakertown, Pennsylvania. These
are all $50 donors, and all of

2729
02:43:40,830 --> 02:43:44,280
them contributed to making us
get out of bed and actually do

2730
02:43:44,280 --> 02:43:46,110
show 1629

2731
02:43:46,200 --> 02:43:50,250
Adam Curry: And as always, under
50 appreciated many do that for

2732
02:43:50,250 --> 02:43:55,020
anonymity 4999. But everybody
else consider five bucks a month

2733
02:43:55,050 --> 02:43:58,830
anything you've any value you
can spare. I think everybody can

2734
02:43:58,830 --> 02:44:01,650
spare that at least once a month
that would be very, very

2735
02:44:01,650 --> 02:44:05,370
helpful, sustaining donations
Find out more at no agenda

2736
02:44:05,370 --> 02:44:08,790
donations.com And thank you once
again to our execs and Associate

2737
02:44:08,790 --> 02:44:14,010
Executive Producer of episode
1629. Our formula is this. We go

2738
02:44:14,010 --> 02:44:16,110
out we hit people in the mouth.

2739
02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:38,520
And we always love celebrating
birthdays with everybody you

2740
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:43,080
email us with your birthdays the
evening before the show. We

2741
02:44:43,080 --> 02:44:46,290
don't keep a calendar but we do
mention them if you send it to

2742
02:44:46,290 --> 02:44:50,760
us. Andrew Gardner celebrates
tomorrow on the 29th as does

2743
02:44:50,760 --> 02:44:54,240
Ryan de Blasio renegade six says
Happy Birthday to his keep her

2744
02:44:54,240 --> 02:44:57,930
sparkles of chaos. She'll be
turning 30 And Haley Curtis

2745
02:44:58,860 --> 02:45:02,610
Curless wishes her smokin hot
husband Spencer pollack. A happy

2746
02:45:02,610 --> 02:45:05,700
birthday he is during the big 33
Happy birthday, everybody here

2747
02:45:05,700 --> 02:45:09,960
in the best podcast in the
universe. We have two nights

2748
02:45:09,960 --> 02:45:13,620
with one layaway night so we
love reading those notes, which

2749
02:45:13,620 --> 02:45:17,430
means he spent a long time with
small donations which gets you

2750
02:45:17,430 --> 02:45:20,910
to the finish line. This is Kyle
Vargas. He says I've been

2751
02:45:20,910 --> 02:45:23,580
listening to the no agenda show
since hearing Adam on an episode

2752
02:45:23,580 --> 02:45:28,050
of twit twit with John talking
about the no agenda show 2008 to

2753
02:45:28,050 --> 02:45:32,160
2010 ish. I stopped listening to
twit not too long after feeling

2754
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:35,520
guilty and appreciative of the
COVID coverage. I started a

2755
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:40,260
night layaway plan if 3333 per
month and February of 2021 with

2756
02:45:40,260 --> 02:45:44,610
the August 2020 2023 donation, I
achieved knighthood but life got

2757
02:45:44,610 --> 02:45:47,190
in the way of claiming my title
please would you deduce?

2758
02:45:48,930 --> 02:45:51,120
Unknown: You've been de Deus?
Tell it like

2759
02:45:51,120 --> 02:45:55,440
Adam Curry: My name's Kyle of
the of South Placer County. You

2760
02:45:55,440 --> 02:45:58,230
got it. My birthday is on
January 31. Please add me to the

2761
02:45:58,230 --> 02:46:04,800
birthday list. Do we put them on
the birthday list? We did not.

2762
02:46:04,890 --> 02:46:08,100
Oh maybe Jay is probably saving
it for the actual birthday

2763
02:46:08,100 --> 02:46:14,040
birthday list. That'd be the
30/31 Happy birthday. Cheers

2764
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:18,630
Kyle J. Vargas. So why don't you
stand over here Kyle and Cody,

2765
02:46:18,630 --> 02:46:21,060
could you come over here John,
get your blade out.

2766
02:46:21,270 --> 02:46:21,990
John C Dvorak: I got it and

2767
02:46:23,490 --> 02:46:27,750
Adam Curry: the big boys Kyle J.
Vargas. Cody Smith. Several on

2768
02:46:27,750 --> 02:46:30,870
the podium both of you are now
officially knights of the no

2769
02:46:30,870 --> 02:46:33,060
agenda roundtable thanks for
your support in the amount of

2770
02:46:33,060 --> 02:46:37,560
$1,000 or more I'm very proud to
pronounce the Kate v as Sir Kyle

2771
02:46:37,560 --> 02:46:41,430
of South Placer County and
knights mini lover of all

2772
02:46:41,430 --> 02:46:44,850
undetermined believer in the
distributed ledger for you.

2773
02:46:44,850 --> 02:46:47,610
We've got hookers and blow rent
boys and Chardon. A little bit

2774
02:46:47,610 --> 02:46:50,970
of Bitcoin on the side Polish
potato vodka, we got harlots and

2775
02:46:50,970 --> 02:46:54,120
how dough redheads and Rhys
beers and blends geishas and

2776
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:57,330
Saki, Bucha Manila, bong hits
bourbon, sparkling cider an

2777
02:46:57,330 --> 02:47:00,750
escort ginger ale and Jerboas
breast milk and Pavlo man, I see

2778
02:47:00,750 --> 02:47:03,060
you're already munching on the
mutton you're sipping on the

2779
02:47:03,060 --> 02:47:06,930
meat it's there for you. Head
over to no agenda nation.no

2780
02:47:06,930 --> 02:47:09,060
agenda rings.com I keep
forgetting we have a whole

2781
02:47:09,060 --> 02:47:12,150
website for it no agenda
rings.com Take a look at him.

2782
02:47:12,150 --> 02:47:14,580
Anybody can go there and take a
look at these handsome rings

2783
02:47:14,580 --> 02:47:17,970
that for knights and for dame's
we'll get your sizing as a handy

2784
02:47:17,970 --> 02:47:20,820
tool there to send that into us
along with your address and each

2785
02:47:20,820 --> 02:47:24,990
ring comes with a certificate of
authenticity. So you can clearly

2786
02:47:24,990 --> 02:47:27,900
hit everybody in the mouth or
seal your important

2787
02:47:27,900 --> 02:47:32,160
correspondence with the included
wax seeing as they are Signet

2788
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:35,340
rings and thank you for
supporting the no agenda show

2789
02:47:35,340 --> 02:47:36,540
boo boo. No one.

2790
02:47:44,250 --> 02:47:47,070
Know agenda meetups.com is the
website where you can find all

2791
02:47:47,070 --> 02:47:49,320
of the meetups. We always like
to highlight a couple of them as

2792
02:47:49,320 --> 02:47:51,930
they're coming up. We have some
taking place actually one taking

2793
02:47:51,930 --> 02:47:55,950
place today to ski in ski out.
Meet up at Salt Lake City which

2794
02:47:55,950 --> 02:47:58,950
let me say is probably underway
as we speak. If you hurry, you

2795
02:47:58,950 --> 02:48:02,880
still get to Viking yurt in Park
City, Utah and hang out with the

2796
02:48:02,880 --> 02:48:06,090
guys and gals. On Thursday. Our
next show day the northern wake

2797
02:48:06,090 --> 02:48:09,360
airing of conspiracies six
o'clock at Compass Rose brewing

2798
02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:14,040
in Raleigh, North Carolina. And
also on Thursday, the midwinter

2799
02:48:14,040 --> 02:48:17,400
Denver meetup 630 at Lincoln's
Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado,

2800
02:48:17,400 --> 02:48:20,370
many more all the way through
May, which includes Richmond,

2801
02:48:20,370 --> 02:48:24,720
Virginia, I still see
Fredericksburg, Texas on April

2802
02:48:24,720 --> 02:48:28,770
8, I really I really discourage
that it's going to be this is

2803
02:48:28,770 --> 02:48:34,170
the the eclipse day. You know,
Bill Nye is doing a contest

2804
02:48:34,590 --> 02:48:38,430
visit witnessed the Eclipse with
Bill Nye the Science Guy in

2805
02:48:38,430 --> 02:48:39,300
Fredericksburg.

2806
02:48:43,320 --> 02:48:44,580
John C Dvorak: It sounds like
it's gonna be

2807
02:48:44,580 --> 02:48:46,590
Adam Curry: a nightmare. It's
going to be a nightmare

2808
02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:49,560
nightmare. And that prize with
Bill Nye by the way, you're

2809
02:48:49,560 --> 02:48:53,520
staying at the lodge. Trust me.
You don't want to win. The

2810
02:48:53,520 --> 02:48:57,120
second prize is two nights at
the lodge. I want to be

2811
02:48:57,120 --> 02:49:00,390
John C Dvorak: the Wow. I didn't
think you pull that joke. So

2812
02:49:00,390 --> 02:49:01,680
world structure we

2813
02:49:01,680 --> 02:49:05,640
Adam Curry: got to Kuala Lumpur
on the 17th Oh Toms River, New

2814
02:49:05,640 --> 02:49:09,570
Jersey on the 17th as well. I'm
old stomping grounds, Arlington,

2815
02:49:09,570 --> 02:49:14,310
Virginia some spokes on February
10. And I want to pre promote

2816
02:49:14,670 --> 02:49:18,270
the Austin Sunset Valley Texas
meetup, which I think will be at

2817
02:49:18,300 --> 02:49:21,210
Doc's backyard. February 10.
Barron Scott and his lovely wife

2818
02:49:21,510 --> 02:49:25,170
are always happy to welcome you
to that. There's no agenda

2819
02:49:25,170 --> 02:49:30,750
meetups. What are you drinking?
I heard it. I heard. I heard I

2820
02:49:30,750 --> 02:49:30,960
thought.

2821
02:49:32,280 --> 02:49:36,720
John C Dvorak: Oh, well that you
mentioned it. Hold on. Yes.

2822
02:49:36,750 --> 02:49:38,550
Adam Curry: I thought I heard a
show

2823
02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:40,680
John C Dvorak: beer. You were
hearing me scratch out something

2824
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:42,660
on the spread. Tons of listeners
scratching.

2825
02:49:42,990 --> 02:49:46,350
Adam Curry: Scratching your
butt. Oh, there we go. Yes. I do

2826
02:49:46,350 --> 02:49:47,730
have something What are you
drinking?

2827
02:49:48,270 --> 02:49:52,740
John C Dvorak: This will be
another DRAM verbal sparkling

2828
02:49:52,740 --> 02:49:58,710
water, herbal water and it's
lavender and lemon balm. Wow. I

2829
02:49:59,400 --> 02:50:01,740
Adam Curry: can't believe If
you're drinking that, yeah,

2830
02:50:02,310 --> 02:50:02,700
well,

2831
02:50:02,970 --> 02:50:05,220
John C Dvorak: I will say that
was provided by some of our

2832
02:50:05,220 --> 02:50:07,020
producers who sent me a box of
these things.

2833
02:50:08,069 --> 02:50:10,169
Adam Curry: You got some good
stuff there. You

2834
02:50:10,170 --> 02:50:13,350
John C Dvorak: know? It's
actually not that bad, huh?

2835
02:50:14,549 --> 02:50:17,039
Adam Curry: I mean, I got the I
got the Little House on the

2836
02:50:17,039 --> 02:50:22,499
Prairie Cookbook on the prairie
Cool,

2837
02:50:23,670 --> 02:50:25,290
John C Dvorak: man, I'm
surprised you didn't have it

2838
02:50:25,290 --> 02:50:26,640
already. Yeah, thank

2839
02:50:26,640 --> 02:50:29,460
Adam Curry: you very much. Go to
no agenda. meetups.com If you

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02:50:29,460 --> 02:50:32,460
want to participate in any of
the meetups, they are available

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02:50:32,460 --> 02:50:35,100
all around the world almost
every single day of the week. If

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02:50:35,100 --> 02:50:37,290
you can't find one there, you
start worrying yourself. It's

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02:50:37,290 --> 02:50:40,470
easy no agenda meetups.com
Sometimes you

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02:50:40,470 --> 02:50:45,150
Unknown: want to go hang out
with all the nights and days

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02:50:46,290 --> 02:50:57,840
you'll be triggered. You will be
ready to say like

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02:50:59,010 --> 02:51:01,590
Adam Curry: alright, I'm over
ISO today, so I might as well go

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02:51:01,590 --> 02:51:02,010
first.

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02:51:02,040 --> 02:51:04,770
John C Dvorak: I figured you
would be because last show you

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02:51:04,770 --> 02:51:06,510
had nothing Time over. I

2850
02:51:06,510 --> 02:51:07,740
Adam Curry: sewed Here we go.
Okay,

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02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:11,190
Unknown: take your hands off
your kiddos ears. That's

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02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:13,200
Adam Curry: too long. Too long.

2853
02:51:13,260 --> 02:51:14,880
Unknown: It's like a digital
fentanyl.

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02:51:15,120 --> 02:51:19,530
Adam Curry: Kinda like that one.
Kind of like that one. I think

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02:51:19,560 --> 02:51:23,730
this this is new. He did some
new Ding ding ding

2856
02:51:23,730 --> 02:51:26,160
Unknown: ding ding ding ding
ding bomb Pune

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02:51:30,090 --> 02:51:32,880
Adam Curry: then I have this one
there is no evidence I thought

2858
02:51:32,880 --> 02:51:36,900
that was pretty good. And then
we go to the well for the final

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02:51:36,900 --> 02:51:37,650
ones

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02:51:37,740 --> 02:51:41,820
John C Dvorak: fantastic
episode. We got Okay, so wait

2861
02:51:41,820 --> 02:51:43,680
well what will be the winner
right Wait, wait

2862
02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:47,370
Adam Curry: wait wait. I have
one more an incredible episode.

2863
02:51:47,730 --> 02:51:50,820
Fantastic or incredible? Which
one? This is a tough call I

2864
02:51:50,820 --> 02:51:54,990
John C Dvorak: think Fantastic.
Fantastic episode because I like

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02:51:54,990 --> 02:51:58,980
to breathiness a little bit I
have two okay, which I will

2866
02:51:58,980 --> 02:52:01,980
already concede the one that's
going to be that one that you

2867
02:52:02,070 --> 02:52:04,710
just played Yeah, but let's go
with promise

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02:52:04,740 --> 02:52:07,410
Unknown: promise made and a
promise cap.

2869
02:52:10,590 --> 02:52:12,270
Adam Curry: It's funny. All
right.

2870
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:14,250
John C Dvorak: And then roll

2871
02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:15,930
Unknown: that's not how I roll.

2872
02:52:16,770 --> 02:52:19,530
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think the
fantastic episode is

2873
02:52:19,560 --> 02:52:22,320
appropriate. Yeah, that's just
the one we got to do and now

2874
02:52:22,320 --> 02:52:29,520
it's time for you to see I love
it when people post good news

2875
02:52:29,520 --> 02:52:31,800
stories that we've already
played on the show I saw that

2876
02:52:32,250 --> 02:52:35,310
Mastodon you like keep up well
yeah

2877
02:52:36,510 --> 02:52:38,430
John C Dvorak: well the good
news today is I don't have a

2878
02:52:38,430 --> 02:52:43,200
good news clip what you know
what happened? No this is how I

2879
02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:45,690
was talking to me me and she
posted a couple of clips into

2880
02:52:45,690 --> 02:52:48,330
some other clips over a couple
of good ones by the way really

2881
02:52:48,330 --> 02:52:52,320
great clips this isn't a trusted
the fisherman and then I forgot

2882
02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:58,200
to put them on the on the on the
countdown sheet and I never I

2883
02:52:58,200 --> 02:52:59,460
never produced them

2884
02:52:59,580 --> 02:53:02,730
Adam Curry: and I don't even
have a backup good news Are you

2885
02:53:02,730 --> 02:53:03,720
kidding I shipped from

2886
02:53:03,720 --> 02:53:05,970
John C Dvorak: a couple of shows
ago I have a backup good news

2887
02:53:05,970 --> 02:53:07,350
but not

2888
02:53:07,620 --> 02:53:10,290
Adam Curry: if it's not
currently it can't really can't

2889
02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:13,650
really can't really well I feel
bad now. Well, you should this

2890
02:53:13,650 --> 02:53:16,260
is your beats. How can you how
can you miss your beat?

2891
02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:18,000
John C Dvorak: I know it's
pretty funny.

2892
02:53:19,980 --> 02:53:21,870
Adam Curry: Well, then I'll let
you play one more clip before we

2893
02:53:21,870 --> 02:53:23,760
go. Just just so we get

2894
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:25,440
John C Dvorak: what they will
call it the good news clip. It's

2895
02:53:25,440 --> 02:53:26,190
Miss Biden.

2896
02:53:27,510 --> 02:53:30,210
Adam Curry: Always good news to
play Biden. Okay. All right.

2897
02:53:30,240 --> 02:53:31,080
What are we playing?

2898
02:53:33,570 --> 02:53:36,270
John C Dvorak: This will be I
got to Biden clips. One of them

2899
02:53:36,270 --> 02:53:38,970
is Biden talking about the first
about second amendment gun

2900
02:53:38,970 --> 02:53:43,890
rights. And here he goes by the
F 16. Comment. Well,

2901
02:53:43,890 --> 02:53:46,620
Unknown: guess what, man? I
didn't see a whole lot of

2902
02:53:46,620 --> 02:53:51,000
patriots that out there. Walking
around making sure that we have

2903
02:53:51,000 --> 02:53:54,330
these weapons. Well, and if you
really want to worry about the

2904
02:53:54,330 --> 02:53:56,370
government, he needed an F 16.

2905
02:53:56,910 --> 02:53:59,220
Adam Curry: Wow, is he on that
tip again? He's done this

2906
02:53:59,220 --> 02:54:01,560
before. This is old. His old

2907
02:54:02,580 --> 02:54:05,880
John C Dvorak: everything he
says his old Oh, Biden on Biden

2908
02:54:05,880 --> 02:54:06,660
on beer

2909
02:54:06,690 --> 02:54:12,690
Unknown: beer brewed here is
used to make the brew beer. Boo

2910
02:54:12,690 --> 02:54:14,970
worth Ryder. Thanks for the
great lakes. I'm wondering.

2911
02:54:16,500 --> 02:54:19,620
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. You
know, you better have a good

2912
02:54:19,620 --> 02:54:25,200
news clip next show. I mean, you
I mean, it's one thing to throw

2913
02:54:25,200 --> 02:54:32,130
in a China clip. And then you
have no good news is an atrocity

2914
02:54:32,490 --> 02:54:37,230
Trosset I don't know where we're
gonna go. If you're on the no

2915
02:54:37,230 --> 02:54:42,690
agenda stream.com If you are
listening to a modern podcast

2916
02:54:42,690 --> 02:54:48,450
app, if you stay tuned, we have
we have the Battle of the

2917
02:54:48,450 --> 02:54:59,250
douchebags part to lie. With sir
seat sitter, sir Spencer, Dame

2918
02:54:59,250 --> 02:55:04,470
DeLorean And Mary Kate altra,
also known as MK Ultra can't

2919
02:55:04,470 --> 02:55:07,770
wait, and to show mixes that
fabulous Trump rotation. We've

2920
02:55:07,770 --> 02:55:14,340
got Brian Longnecker. And we
have our immigration clip. Who

2921
02:55:14,340 --> 02:55:19,890
was that from? Remember? Can't
remember coming to you from the

2922
02:55:20,010 --> 02:55:24,030
heart of the Texas Hill Country.
Sema reason number six in the

2923
02:55:24,030 --> 02:55:26,340
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry, and

2924
02:55:26,340 --> 02:55:28,500
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody's

2925
02:55:28,500 --> 02:55:31,830
saying Go Niners I'm John C.
Dvorak We Go Niners

2926
02:55:32,370 --> 02:55:35,490
Adam Curry: go nine as we return
on Thursday, right here on no

2927
02:55:35,490 --> 02:55:39,000
agenda. Remember I said no
agenda donations.com Until then,

2928
02:55:39,000 --> 02:55:41,640
adios mofos Oh, he Oh, he and
son. I have

2929
02:55:41,640 --> 02:55:43,350
John C Dvorak: my list and you
might want to see if there's

2930
02:55:43,350 --> 02:55:46,260
anything I left out. This is the
Trump rotation and there's two

2931
02:55:46,260 --> 02:55:48,660
categories there's the regular
and then there's the criminal

2932
02:55:48,690 --> 02:55:52,860
but here we go. Ready? Liar,
incompetent, unhinged

2933
02:55:52,920 --> 02:55:56,880
illegitimate President white
supremacist racist bully

2934
02:55:56,910 --> 02:56:02,160
immature Russian agent
narcissist mean long ties,

2935
02:56:02,310 --> 02:56:07,170
insane tweets too much small
hands all penis Big Red Button

2936
02:56:07,290 --> 02:56:15,270
criminal mean racist, immature,
thin skinned runs the MA has no

2937
02:56:15,270 --> 02:56:21,660
money unstable fatter than 239
pounds bankrupt 25th amendment

2938
02:56:21,690 --> 02:56:25,560
and should be instituted he
hates women misogynist holds

2939
02:56:25,560 --> 02:56:29,790
grudges forever plays golf
allied obstruction of justice

2940
02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:32,340
money laundering clown

2941
02:56:33,210 --> 02:56:33,720
Unknown: John

2942
02:56:35,010 --> 02:56:39,540
Adam Curry: No wonder we're
making America white again on

2943
02:56:39,540 --> 02:56:40,830
cyber law

2944
02:56:51,360 --> 02:56:52,440
Unknown: Bill Bill

2945
02:57:05,760 --> 02:57:06,300
Bill

2946
02:57:15,210 --> 02:57:25,950
Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill

2947
02:57:31,590 --> 02:57:37,080
kids are all ages they're given
peanut butter and tortillas

2948
02:57:37,080 --> 02:57:42,120
they're given frozen sandwiches
that still have ice and that's

2949
02:57:42,120 --> 02:57:43,980
the kind of environment you
would go to you

2950
02:57:45,840 --> 02:57:56,670
will you help me know when Miss
Grace shows we don't need no

2951
02:57:56,730 --> 02:57:58,530
border patrol

2952
02:58:06,090 --> 02:58:06,420
shall

2953
02:58:12,810 --> 02:58:15,810
leave the kids alone

2954
02:58:24,000 --> 02:58:25,140
leave that cancelled

2955
02:58:32,520 --> 02:58:34,710
for funding your walls

2956
02:58:40,980 --> 02:58:43,380
all for funding low walls

2957
02:58:53,760 --> 02:58:55,530
children and their families

2958
02:59:03,480 --> 02:59:05,130
be reunited with their parents

2959
02:59:11,100 --> 02:59:12,660
reunited with their parents

2960
02:59:19,410 --> 02:59:24,870
Arizona, those kids are ages
they're given peanut butter on

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02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:28,800
tortillas or even frozen
sandwiches. Still have ice in

2962
02:59:30,300 --> 02:59:31,950
the Vironment. You want your?

2963
02:59:33,300 --> 02:59:35,880
Adam Curry: That was a very
interesting comment. I thought

2964
02:59:36,630 --> 02:59:40,620
that the idea of given these
children's tortillas with peanut

2965
02:59:40,620 --> 02:59:43,500
butter, and some of them were
out of the fridge, they still

2966
02:59:43,500 --> 02:59:46,950
had ice on them. It's just
despicable to this woman. And

2967
02:59:46,950 --> 02:59:50,730
it's just the whole idea of I
don't know if she has kids, but

2968
02:59:50,730 --> 02:59:53,700
she's probably feeding a mac and
cheese and they see any

2969
02:59:53,700 --> 02:59:57,120
Unknown: weakness. They will
come by the millions. They will

2970
02:59:57,120 --> 03:00:00,300
come by the media and they see
any weakness Oh,

2971
03:00:02,280 --> 03:00:09,270
aliens is 00 with Mexico since
they sleep in Sydney. I will

2972
03:00:09,270 --> 03:00:15,150
build bringing crime. They're
rapists. I will have Mexico pay

2973
03:00:19,770 --> 03:00:30,840
for MOPO vorak.org/in a
fantastic episode