1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,270 Unknown: Hey, Adam curry 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Adam Curry: Jhansi Devorah Feb 20 Min 2024 This Year Award 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,580 winning nation media assassination episode 1637. This 4 00:00:11,670 --> 00:00:14,010 Unknown: is no agenda. We 5 00:00:14,010 --> 00:00:16,230 Adam Curry: got Israeli motivations and we're 6 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:19,200 broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,750 and figurines number six in the morning, everybody 8 00:00:23,130 --> 00:00:25,710 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we all say 9 00:00:25,950 --> 00:00:28,890 Happy Chinese New Year. I'm Jhansi. Dvorak. 10 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:35,789 Adam Curry: Yes. And this one they start spreading some 11 00:00:35,789 --> 00:00:43,589 disease. Yeah. It was, yeah, it was around this time. Was it 12 00:00:43,589 --> 00:00:48,989 three years ago, four years ago. I can't remember now, as it was, 13 00:00:48,989 --> 00:00:52,169 I think it was almost four years ago. Can you believe in? how 14 00:00:52,169 --> 00:00:54,179 long we've been dealing with that bullcrap. 15 00:00:54,690 --> 00:00:57,450 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you know, that's what you do. And 16 00:00:57,450 --> 00:01:01,620 had to be almost four years ago because it was right when Trump 17 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:05,250 was leaving office. Yes. And I went to actually it was before 18 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:08,100 that. So during Trump's administration, he had to deal 19 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:09,840 with nine months. That's right. That's right. He 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Adam Curry: was blocked off. He was racist. He was blocking 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,140 trice from jet flight from China. Yeah, yeah. Were you a 22 00:01:16,140 --> 00:01:20,460 racist, racist, racist, xenophobic, and, and so now here 23 00:01:20,460 --> 00:01:23,130 we are four years later, and the you're 24 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:28,290 John C Dvorak: good, you get your booster. I get more 25 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:31,770 boosters. I need I need great. Works great. 26 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:37,200 Adam Curry: I need to schedule I'm lagging and the UK Office 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,340 for National Statistics. You know, they find these excess 28 00:01:41,340 --> 00:01:45,990 deaths. Very annoying. So what do we do just like we do in the 29 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:48,570 financial markets, when we don't like the numbers, what do we do? 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,400 We just try that we just, we just changed the way we count 31 00:01:53,610 --> 00:01:56,460 Unknown: doing. And since the Coronavirus pandemic, we've 32 00:01:56,460 --> 00:02:00,120 generally seen more people die than we'd expect. We call these 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,470 deaths above average excess deaths. Different organizations 34 00:02:04,470 --> 00:02:08,070 have used different ways to calculate this, each with merit 35 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:10,950 in particular uses, for example, for planning health 36 00:02:10,950 --> 00:02:15,240 interventions, and identifying emerging threats. In the spirit 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,270 of continuous improvement, we've been working with independent 38 00:02:18,270 --> 00:02:21,540 experts and those across government and the devolved 39 00:02:21,540 --> 00:02:25,890 nations to develop a common UK wide approach. Using our new 40 00:02:25,890 --> 00:02:30,090 approach. Today's release estimates 11,000 excess deaths 41 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:34,200 in 2023. While this is lower than our previous estimate, our 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,200 new method accounts for the growth and ageing of the 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,800 population. These are key factors in understanding how 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,790 many deaths we'd expect to see whether the number of deaths is 45 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:48,630 below or above this. So here we go. Looking more closely at the 46 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:53,070 last month for 2023. So we're actually negative excess deaths, 47 00:02:53,490 --> 00:02:56,760 meaning fewer deaths, in average being registered for the back 48 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,720 across the pandemic for trends and peaks in excess deaths are 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,560 the same using the new method as they were under the old method. 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,830 It's important to note that our estimates of excess deaths are 51 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:12,060 just estimates. They can't be counted individually, unlike 52 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:14,370 death registrations, which haven't changed. 53 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:21,000 Adam Curry: I mean, could it get first of all, nice music bed 54 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:26,190 Office for National Statistics? I mean, they just didn't like 55 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:29,940 it. Oh, it was 11,000. So we just changed it. And now it's 56 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:33,780 negative. So shut up conspiracy theorists. And by the way, these 57 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:37,620 are estimates we can't really even know. Hmm. The insurance 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,560 the insurance companies seem to know. They seem to Yeah, they go 59 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,460 along, but now they know they know the numbers. It's it's I 60 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:50,460 mean, I'm just I'm flabbergasted. I mean, I'm not 61 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:55,320 really surprised. But still, I mean, kind of flabbergasted. You 62 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:02,400 know? Crazy. Not quite as crazy as the latest breaking news, 63 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,400 breaking news breaking news. They're at it again. Oh my god. 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,420 We've got to deploy fighter 65 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:09,180 Unknown: jets tonight in the skies above the western United 66 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:12,420 States NORAD sending up fighter jet fighters back to high 67 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:17,190 altitude balloon flying at 43,000 to 45,000 feet and 68 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:20,910 official tells us the balloon is some 50 feet tall with a two 69 00:04:20,910 --> 00:04:24,810 foot payload. Its contents are unknown, and they do not believe 70 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:28,200 the balloon is being steered remotely. The military first 71 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,760 spawning in over Utah. It is now drifting east. No word on who 72 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,820 sent the balloon where it's going or what its mission might 73 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:39,390 be. The Biden administration keenly aware it comes just a 74 00:04:39,390 --> 00:04:43,140 year after a Chinese spy balloon was spotted flying clear across 75 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:46,470 the country. President Biden ordering it shot down off the 76 00:04:46,470 --> 00:04:50,280 coast of South Carolina. That balloon was much larger than the 77 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,340 balloon currently drifting across the country. Its payload 78 00:04:53,340 --> 00:04:57,420 alone was the size of three buses. Tonight the origin of 79 00:04:57,420 --> 00:05:01,560 this new balloon unclear but officials telling us it does not 80 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,810 pose a threat to national security. 81 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:05,910 Still a lot of questions over this. Let's get right to Mary 82 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:07,560 Bruce live at the White House tonight and Mary's 83 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,300 Adam Curry: very excited scrambled rambling, saying, 84 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:13,530 Well, what are we saying? 85 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,490 Unknown: Well, David, for now, they 86 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:17,310 are continuing to closely track and monitor this. They 87 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:20,700 determined that as of now, this does not pose a risk to flight 88 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:24,180 safety. And we're told NORAD and the FAA are closely coordinating 89 00:05:24,330 --> 00:05:25,710 to make sure it stays that way. 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,250 Adam Curry: You're with a guy who went way way. Wait, 91 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:33,180 John C Dvorak: wait, what does she mean by make sure it stays 92 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:36,510 that way? Is that thing going to morph into a flying saucers? I'm 93 00:05:37,290 --> 00:05:39,750 going to change the transformer. 94 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:44,160 Adam Curry: Exactly. Oh, this is just I guess this is China fear. 95 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:46,830 You know, hey, we got to scramble some jets. We need more 96 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:47,520 money. 97 00:05:47,580 --> 00:05:49,200 John C Dvorak: Can you imagine how much money it costs to 98 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,550 scramble a bunch of jets? 99 00:05:50,910 --> 00:05:53,220 Adam Curry: I'm sure one of our producers could actually give us 100 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:57,240 the figure. I'm sure they actually know. It's not like we 101 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,300 could get it from a pentagon audit. But yeah, I'm sure so 102 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:01,710 where, 103 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:03,120 John C Dvorak: by the way? Yes. 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Adam Curry: Yes. Do tell. Where's 105 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,870 John C Dvorak: that Pentagon audit? 106 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:10,410 Adam Curry: Did you see that the Marine Corps passed a full 107 00:06:10,410 --> 00:06:14,550 financial audit? No. Yeah. Semper 108 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:18,000 John C Dvorak: Fi. Yeah. Well, I mean, somebody can do the job. 109 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:22,560 Let me see what it's turned over the Pentagon to the Marines. Oh, 110 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,950 they they that should get us some donations. Right. 111 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:30,060 Adam Curry: full financial audit for the first time with the 112 00:06:30,060 --> 00:06:33,750 service announcing Friday, its fiscal 2023 financial audit 113 00:06:33,750 --> 00:06:38,910 received an unmodified audit opinion. This is interesting 114 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:42,870 after a rigorous two year review, how do you get how do 115 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:48,660 you get a two year review for 2023? Audit? It's only 2024. 116 00:06:50,190 --> 00:06:52,830 John C Dvorak: Well, they must they obviously referring to 117 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:58,980 combination 22 and 23. I guess. I guess it's a milestone or they 118 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:01,170 do time travel. Maybe that's it. It's 119 00:07:01,290 --> 00:07:04,140 Adam Curry: it's a milestone. It's a beautiful thing. You 120 00:07:04,140 --> 00:07:07,530 remember that guy? Actually, I met the guy who wrote the book 121 00:07:07,530 --> 00:07:11,160 about it. Who had a lawn chair and he tied Boutwell weather 122 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,690 balloons to it. And he wound up flying up to like 50,000 feet. 123 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:19,890 And planes were spotting him and he had a BB gun to shoot the 124 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:22,170 balloons to go back down again. Remember that guy? 125 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:26,460 John C Dvorak: I remember something about Yeah, like the 126 00:07:26,460 --> 00:07:28,230 one that had the kid in it. There was nothing 127 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:31,140 Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, that was Oh, man. That was the best hoax. 128 00:07:31,170 --> 00:07:35,220 Balloon Boy Balloon Boy. Yeah, no, this is not Balloon Boy. Now 129 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:41,940 the guy it was it was in the late 90s I think. Yeah. And he 130 00:07:41,940 --> 00:07:45,150 had a whole bunch of balloons tied to tied to his lawn chair 131 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:55,050 and floated up. We should try that. Somebody should try that 132 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:57,030 again. And you get you know, scramble some fighter you're 133 00:07:57,030 --> 00:07:58,710 John C Dvorak: good balloon is you could pull that 134 00:07:58,770 --> 00:08:01,440 Adam Curry: off. It would be funny. If if the fighter enough 135 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,260 the fighter jets. We knew what he was doing. If the fighter 136 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:07,560 jets were scrambled, and then flying by and there's a dude in 137 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,610 a lawn chair. I mean, 138 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:10,560 John C Dvorak: what if one of them thought it was funny to be 139 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,400 strafing him? 140 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,660 Adam Curry: Come on. Where's your American humor? Were fun at 141 00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:19,740 this that wouldn't be humorous waved the Jets. This thing was 142 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:22,710 only 40,000 feet you know you can you can get up there for a 143 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:25,530 little bit with some oxygen not too long, but it might be 144 00:08:25,530 --> 00:08:28,500 chilly. It's been done before. 145 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:32,040 John C Dvorak: Before we get to the good stuff. Yes. I think we 146 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,440 should at least do a little review. What happened? There was 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,850 an election. That Trump one yes. And Nikki Haley staying in the 148 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:41,910 in the race even though she had her ass kicked in her own state. 149 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,840 Yes. But she's staying in because the Democrats are 150 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,800 keeping her going. 151 00:08:46,890 --> 00:08:48,870 Adam Curry: I have a clip of Nikki if you want to hear a 152 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:50,370 clip. Love it. 153 00:08:50,820 --> 00:08:53,670 Unknown: Today in South Carolina. We're getting around 154 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:55,050 40% of the vote. 155 00:08:56,940 --> 00:08:59,190 That's one way of looking at it. 156 00:09:03,390 --> 00:09:06,630 Adam Curry: By the way, the 40% of vote is only 19,000 people 157 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:08,970 it's not like this was some big thing. 158 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:14,970 Unknown: That's about what that's about what we got New 159 00:09:14,970 --> 00:09:25,290 Hampshire to. I'm gonna count it. I know 40% is not 50%. But I 160 00:09:25,290 --> 00:09:31,980 also know 40% is not some tiny group is 19,000 161 00:09:31,980 --> 00:09:34,230 Adam Curry: people. Big deal. It wasn't 19 162 00:09:34,290 --> 00:09:35,850 John C Dvorak: I think it was more No, no, I 163 00:09:35,850 --> 00:09:39,810 Adam Curry: looked at numbers. It was 19,000 people. And Trump 164 00:09:39,810 --> 00:09:46,800 had now 22 Or something I'm surprised it didn't break out in 165 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:50,340 in a little bit of rap there. You know, there's 166 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:55,470 Unknown: lots of noise in politics, people. Other with 167 00:09:55,620 --> 00:10:00,900 great big steps. Nikki Haley stands above them. Rest. She's 168 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:05,940 been pulling food to the test with Trump the bully. 169 00:10:07,529 --> 00:10:10,619 Adam Curry: I can't get enough of Tim Draper heels with twice 170 00:10:10,620 --> 00:10:12,960 John C Dvorak: it's mine. He's financing the whole thing. 171 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,300 Adam Curry: Of course he's financing it. That's why he's a 172 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,570 she should have played his song. I mean, it's rude. There we go. 173 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:35,400 Unknown: There, there are huge numbers of voters in our 174 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Republican primaries who were saying they want an alternative. 175 00:10:43,170 --> 00:10:46,680 I said earlier this week that no matter what happens in South 176 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,190 Carolina, I would continue to run for as 177 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:53,850 Adam Curry: long as Draper finances me because he believes 178 00:10:53,940 --> 00:11:02,670 Trump's going to jail. I'm a woman of my word. There's your 179 00:11:02,670 --> 00:11:04,440 sound bite. There's your sound bite. 180 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:10,530 John C Dvorak: Okay, so Nikki Haley got 298,674 votes. 181 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,420 Adam Curry: No, I guess I was looking at the wrong numbers 182 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:16,440 then. I think so. Well, this is why they're two of us. Thank 183 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:16,710 you. 184 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,080 John C Dvorak: Trump got five 451,900 oh five 185 00:11:22,110 --> 00:11:25,320 Adam Curry: go wow. Oh, that was that's a spanking a spanking of 186 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,990 epic proportion. Did you see him bring up? Lindy Hop, gray ham. 187 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:32,040 Trump 188 00:11:32,070 --> 00:11:34,260 John C Dvorak: dead they were both up there him and the other 189 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:36,060 senator. It 190 00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:38,730 Adam Curry: was kind of weird because everyone was booing him. 191 00:11:39,690 --> 00:11:40,620 Yeah. 192 00:11:41,340 --> 00:11:43,290 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're boring but they keep reelecting 193 00:11:43,290 --> 00:11:44,520 him shot. Does that make sense? You 194 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,910 Unknown: want to hear it? Sure. A lot of people 195 00:11:49,410 --> 00:11:53,070 he doesn't do too much. He happens to be a little bit 196 00:11:53,550 --> 00:11:59,160 further left on the stage. But I always say when I'm in trouble 197 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,350 on the left, I call out Lindsey Graham. 198 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,650 Adam Curry: backhanded slam 199 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:19,350 No, no. Remember? Remember what we remember. Remember the main 200 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:24,360 we remain free remember my Dawn yesterday? Remember? war monger 201 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,610 Lindsey. Good man 202 00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:40,440 he looks he looks kind of inebriated. He sounded okay. He 203 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,190 sounded he sounded okay. But he was really flush. You know, like 204 00:12:44,190 --> 00:12:45,360 kind of like he probably 205 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,970 John C Dvorak: the easiest one. It gives a lot of let's put it. 206 00:12:48,210 --> 00:12:51,390 Obviously people that are in Washington DC know how to drink. 207 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:54,360 Yeah. And so they can drink a lot is still sound kind of 208 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,490 sober. You want to and that's what he what? He I'm sure he was 209 00:12:59,580 --> 00:13:02,190 drinking heavily. He would hope. I don't know what he was hoping 210 00:13:02,190 --> 00:13:02,730 for. But 211 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,980 Adam Curry: Oh, here he is. Okay, all 212 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:05,850 Unknown: right. Yeah. 213 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:14,790 America, the nightmare you're facing is just about over the 214 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:19,110 way this is the most qualified man be president. 215 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:32,640 And the President said that South Carolina created the 216 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,790 biggest political act in American history. 217 00:13:41,970 --> 00:13:46,470 John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay, so I got some analysis from PBS. Oh, 218 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:50,070 well, my favorite correspondent to Lopez woman though 219 00:13:50,070 --> 00:13:53,400 Adam Curry: I have her later, too. Yes, the Lopez. You know, 220 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:59,340 she's kind of annoying. You think? She's a little bit 221 00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:01,650 annoying? Yes. Yeah. And she's very than a 222 00:14:01,650 --> 00:14:02,640 John C Dvorak: little very. She 223 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Adam Curry: is very biased. 224 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:07,920 John C Dvorak: Oh, she's a she's a bigoted woman. Correspondent, 225 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:12,420 typical PBS. I don't know. Do you have one of those hires? 226 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,130 Yeah, they may have very few. He knows the 227 00:14:17,130 --> 00:14:20,250 Adam Curry: higher the next the DEI hires that we are 228 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:21,180 insinuating here. 229 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,660 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay. She's I'm not saying she's 230 00:14:24,660 --> 00:14:28,530 incompetent. She's a good she does Jen flub, she's not. But 231 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:31,710 she you can just see she's so she's worse than anyone they've 232 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:35,010 had before for being biased. And I want to play three clips. 233 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,980 Adam Curry: It's PBS it should be representative of all of 234 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:39,630 America. It's called that 235 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:43,110 John C Dvorak: those days. guide with one of my thinking when I 236 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:43,650 fall. That's 237 00:14:43,650 --> 00:14:46,530 Adam Curry: right. And how we miss good old Gwen. She was 238 00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:47,820 good. She 239 00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:49,560 John C Dvorak: was good. Well, she's I think the one that put 240 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 the kibosh on a lot of the stuff they were trying to do. And 241 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,730 let's go with election. Analysis. Lopez one out for 242 00:14:56,730 --> 00:14:59,400 Unknown: the latest law, it's fair to say President Biden has 243 00:14:59,610 --> 00:15:02,880 an because he has some gap among some in his base, who are the 244 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,460 voters that he's having the most trouble with right now. 245 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:08,250 He's having a lot of trouble with young voters and voters of 246 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:11,070 color on that. And I spoke to Nancy's dunkel wits who is a 247 00:15:11,070 --> 00:15:15,480 democratic pollster with Zita, a research. And she recently 248 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,750 conducted focus groups with Latino voters, black voters, and 249 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:21,750 moderate Republicans and especially among Latino voters. 250 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:25,080 She said that there was a Hispanic woman in that group who 251 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,050 questioned the President's message on the economy 252 00:15:28,050 --> 00:15:30,930 specifically that they weren't happy when they heard the 253 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:35,160 president, compare us inflation rates to other countries 254 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,950 inflation rates, trying to present what they thought was 255 00:15:37,950 --> 00:15:42,900 too rosy of a picture in terms of US economy. And ultimately 256 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:46,170 Nancy's it, uncle, it said that what Democrats have is a 257 00:15:46,170 --> 00:15:50,760 messenger problem. This might be a sort of reverse coattails kind 258 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,780 of election, where we see that statewide Democrats and 259 00:15:54,780 --> 00:15:56,970 congressional Democrats are carrying the president across 260 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:59,940 the line. I can't tell you a single state right now where 261 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:03,750 I've surveyed where statewide Democrat was not more popular, 262 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:08,160 and exceeding the vote share of the President. So don't go into 263 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,740 Warren that this is a real problem for Democrats. And it's 264 00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:12,390 not something that they can wish away. 265 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:16,710 Adam Curry: Women so the the wonderful analysis from PBS here 266 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:22,080 is the Democrats have a messenger problem really? Gee, 267 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:24,690 gee, gee, who would have thought 268 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:27,210 John C Dvorak: they finally Yeah, they're coming around to 269 00:16:27,210 --> 00:16:28,950 this conclude, because they're their guy 270 00:16:28,950 --> 00:16:33,990 Adam Curry: is is an old abused, dude, who can't really 271 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:37,080 communicate who can't remember things. They come up with a 272 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,590 never No, no, no, no, that's not working any more than letting 273 00:16:40,590 --> 00:16:41,790 them go. They're 274 00:16:41,790 --> 00:16:45,780 John C Dvorak: gonna de have little. Here's my thesis, or 275 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:47,160 hypothesis. Yeah, you 276 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,720 Adam Curry: name it, whatever you want. They have 277 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,940 John C Dvorak: let him slide from the from the uppers as long 278 00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:57,600 as they can. So they can really pump him up for the Union 279 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,470 address in March. Because they can't keep them pumped up 280 00:17:01,470 --> 00:17:02,700 because he's gonna blow. He's 281 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:05,550 Adam Curry: gonna explode. I don't know. I don't know if he's 282 00:17:05,550 --> 00:17:06,300 gonna make it. 283 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:08,730 John C Dvorak: So he's gonna get to the State of the Union. 284 00:17:08,730 --> 00:17:12,990 They're gonna give it to him. He's gonna be so wired for that 285 00:17:13,020 --> 00:17:15,840 speech. There was just this guy's got lots of energy. 286 00:17:17,790 --> 00:17:20,280 Adam Curry: You want? Yeah. And I'm, I'm waiting 287 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,870 John C Dvorak: for the state that state of the union is going 288 00:17:21,870 --> 00:17:24,900 to be a killer. Alright, let's go with Lopez to 289 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:27,810 Unknown: to the economy remains a challenging issue. But where 290 00:17:27,810 --> 00:17:30,960 is the President seeing any traction, what issues and with 291 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,680 what voters? 292 00:17:31,890 --> 00:17:35,070 As I mentioned, on the Nancy's uncle, it spoke to moderate 293 00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:38,520 Republicans as well. And so in that focus group, they found 294 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,490 that when they presented the contrast between President Biden 295 00:17:41,490 --> 00:17:43,530 and former President Donald Trump that a lot of those 296 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:46,410 moderate Republicans started to move more towards President 297 00:17:46,410 --> 00:17:50,790 Biden specifically on like democracy January 6, and on 298 00:17:50,790 --> 00:17:51,480 abortion. 299 00:17:53,010 --> 00:17:57,570 John C Dvorak: Wait, so the Republican moderates are voting 300 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:02,610 because of democracy? Yes, yes. And January 6, that's what's at 301 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:05,190 the top of their mind. They're thinking, Oh, my God, that 302 00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:10,230 January 6, bowl crap, that I'm thinking, Oh, that's that means 303 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:12,300 I've been a vote for Biden, because I don't want that to 304 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:16,140 happen again. And oh, and Trump's a threat to democracy, 305 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,080 even though everybody left and right including now Hawaii's 306 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,280 trying to take him off the ballot. That's democratic. Okay, 307 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,380 so we'll go with that analysis. 308 00:18:25,410 --> 00:18:29,190 Adam Curry: You sound very animated and somewhat upset. 309 00:18:29,850 --> 00:18:33,450 John C Dvorak: I'm very upset. I'm upset with the bull crap. I 310 00:18:33,450 --> 00:18:37,830 mean, do you really think that any Republican is voting based 311 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:39,930 on the January 6? 312 00:18:41,790 --> 00:18:45,870 Adam Curry: No, I don't. But you know, that they're gonna try 313 00:18:45,870 --> 00:18:48,960 they're gonna try and push that. I mean, that was their big TV 314 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,900 show. That was that was the big thing they had they got Liz 315 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:54,720 Cheney. They got they got everybody to 316 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:57,150 John C Dvorak: get and every one of them got voted out shortly 317 00:18:57,150 --> 00:18:59,310 thereafter. They're 318 00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:01,650 Adam Curry: desperate. There's obvious they're desperate. This 319 00:19:01,650 --> 00:19:05,400 lady, this pollster. She's Democrat, Democrat pollster. 320 00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:11,820 Hello. I mean, that it's lies, lies and statistics. And 321 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:13,020 John C Dvorak: clips worry 322 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:16,830 Unknown: that abortion, she said is the second most important 323 00:19:16,830 --> 00:19:19,290 issue that they're hearing from a lot of voters across the 324 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:22,080 board, not just moderate Republicans. The two fixes that 325 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,080 Democrats could have for that she said is that President Biden 326 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,530 needs to be very clear about his platform for a second term, and 327 00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:30,720 also get more surrogates out there that could boost his 328 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,620 message. Oh, yeah, 329 00:19:31,650 --> 00:19:34,920 Adam Curry: they need surrogates. All right. Wow. 330 00:19:36,990 --> 00:19:37,410 Well, 331 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,510 John C Dvorak: I haven't read it yet, because I've heard other 332 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:44,280 analysis that says, including from Jen Psaki, no goodness, you 333 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,070 have came out on one of their shows and say, Oh, Biden's gotta 334 00:19:47,070 --> 00:19:51,570 get out there more. Yeah. Be out in front. No, Mercer gets 335 00:19:51,570 --> 00:19:53,040 screwed that this has Biden 336 00:19:53,070 --> 00:19:55,410 Adam Curry: she tries to sabotage them. What is she 337 00:19:55,410 --> 00:19:55,800 doing? 338 00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:57,450 John C Dvorak: I don't know what she's up to. 339 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,460 Adam Curry: That's crazy. You don't you don't want it? You're 340 00:19:59,460 --> 00:20:02,580 right. And we We got to keep him in the Adrenochrome, you know, 341 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:07,110 tight until the State of the State of the Union. Meanwhile, 342 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:11,400 Turkish Radio Television Did, did an interesting report of the 343 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,280 South Carolina primary and came up with this 344 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:17,550 Unknown: today for the past two days in South Carolina. We've 345 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:21,180 been hearing the same message from voter after voter. They 346 00:20:21,180 --> 00:20:24,840 believe only one man can defeat the president occupant of the 347 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,680 White House. 348 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,090 My vote for Donald Trump. We've got to get Biden out of office. 349 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:37,260 We've got a it's it's a shame what is being done to the man is 350 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:38,250 old 351 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:38,550 to 352 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,760 Adam Curry: South Carolina Republicans. They even have 353 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,110 compassion for Joe but 354 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,610 Unknown: there were very few people bucking the trend. Many 355 00:20:47,610 --> 00:20:51,060 of the votes Haley did get were from Democrats so determined to 356 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:54,720 stop Trump that they temporarily switched parties. Now 357 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,110 Adam Curry: listen to this lady, and tell me this is not a 358 00:20:58,110 --> 00:20:59,280 maniacal person. 359 00:20:59,580 --> 00:21:03,390 Unknown: I voted outside of my party because I think it's 360 00:21:03,390 --> 00:21:08,070 important for somebody other than President Trump to have a 361 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:10,710 chance so I voted for Nikki Haley 362 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:13,860 but you're a Democrat. I am so you're you're taking part in the 363 00:21:13,860 --> 00:21:14,820 Republican primary. 364 00:21:14,850 --> 00:21:19,320 I am. Yep. First time ever my parents would be horrified. 365 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:27,270 Adam Curry: Tell me tell me that person isn't deranged. Wow. 366 00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:34,560 rather interesting, then we them, you know, but so here's 367 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,100 the unhinged part. And people are coming apart at the seams 368 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,830 and it's kind of weird. Bob Costas, I don't know much about 369 00:21:40,830 --> 00:21:45,000 sports ball. But I remember Bob Costas. Bob Costas was the cool 370 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,990 collected dude, who did the sports ball announcement. Yeah. 371 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:51,300 John C Dvorak: And he they actually game a late night show 372 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:54,870 for a while he took over from stock Tom Snyder. Right. And he 373 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:57,900 could do what Tom Snyder's old it's called The Late Late Show, 374 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:58,350 whatever was 375 00:21:58,350 --> 00:21:59,790 Adam Curry: called he couldn't Broadway. 376 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,030 John C Dvorak: Well, he actually could. Yeah, he was pretty good. 377 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:06,780 But he was not. He was not as good as Snyder's 378 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:11,160 Adam Curry: run into some controversy. Didn't he get 379 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,490 kicked off for that? Because I'm, why do I even know this? 380 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,020 But I have a feeling that he got D platformed. I'm sure it's I'm 381 00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:24,240 sure Italy on page because he didn't he have some I'm gonna 382 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,830 say sex scandal when there's something like that. Anyway, he 383 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:33,300 was on Smerconish. He was on Smerconish and the poor Bob 384 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:35,370 Costas coming apart, you come 385 00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:38,970 Unknown: at this from a position of not wanting to see Trump get 386 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,110 elected. You should state that at the outset. True. Yes, 387 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:47,160 absolutely. He is by far the most disgraceful figure in 388 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,220 modern presidential history. He's only become more 389 00:22:50,220 --> 00:22:54,480 disgraceful since 2016. And since 2020, he has a bubbling 390 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,410 cauldron of loathsome traits. And it's only those who are 391 00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:02,010 actually suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, which is 392 00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:05,520 the way they and Fox News and all the rest of Magha media try 393 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,150 to brush aside all the legitimate criticisms of Trump, 394 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:13,920 you have to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion, in 395 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,450 an A toxic cult to believe that Donald Trump has ever been in 396 00:23:18,450 --> 00:23:22,830 any sense, emotionally, psychologically, intellectually 397 00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:26,010 or ethically fit to be president of the United States. 398 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:29,940 Adam Curry: So you gotta be in some kind of cult. 399 00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:34,620 John C Dvorak: Man play the beginning of that clip, again, 400 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:36,210 just the first couple sentences. Sure 401 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,810 Unknown: you come at this from a position of not wanting to see 402 00:23:39,810 --> 00:23:43,260 Trump get elected. You should state that at the outset. True. 403 00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:48,660 Yes, absolutely. He is by far the most disgraceful figure in 404 00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:51,720 modern presidential history. He's only become more 405 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,100 disgraceful since 2016. Yeah, okay. So what specifically is he 406 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:56,790 talking about? 407 00:23:58,530 --> 00:24:01,770 Adam Curry: He's because he's putting people into a coat. This 408 00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:05,070 is part of a narrative. I didn't want to do it this early in the 409 00:24:05,070 --> 00:24:08,520 show, but I might as well there's a there's a narrative 410 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,000 that they've been way just waiting, waiting to spring and 411 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000 you know, the, it's the whole religious cults mean, and 412 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,060 they've just been waiting to do this. And they finally got an 413 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:25,440 opportunity. And when I say they, that's the Democratic 414 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,880 machine. Yeah, 415 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:29,640 John C Dvorak: yeah. But I'm gonna stop you before he I want 416 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,300 to hear this. But I'd like to know specifics here. If you're 417 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,640 going to start making these accusations that all the 418 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,150 Democrats do Oh, Trump is a criminal. Oh, Trump is this he's 419 00:24:39,150 --> 00:24:41,790 that. Give me one example. 420 00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:44,550 Adam Curry: But why are you asking me I'm not Bob Costas 421 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,440 buf. You're, 422 00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:49,020 John C Dvorak: you're the one with the presentation. Bob 423 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:53,820 Costas. Did he ever say what the what this disgraceful that? What 424 00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:57,690 does this disgraces worse? Specifically? What are they? 425 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,950 Adam Curry: No, I think Hold on. Again this I didn't want to do 426 00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:04,950 this here but I'm going to do it now let me go back to this Bob 427 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:08,670 Costas thing because at the end he says in 428 00:25:08,670 --> 00:25:11,370 John C Dvorak: an A toxic cult that's what he says this is the 429 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:15,780 point of to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion in 430 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:19,320 an A toxic cult visit this is what he likes the word toxics 431 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,790 Yes. So we have to assume that toxic is on the list toxic Yes. 432 00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:26,520 Yes that we're gonna be hearing that's 433 00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:31,020 Adam Curry: yes it is. We kind of roll out the the 434 00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:33,360 John C Dvorak: wildlife toxic by the way it's a good word. 435 00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:36,000 Adam Curry: I thought we had that in toxic what what was the 436 00:25:36,030 --> 00:25:38,340 more recall it again, the Trump 437 00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:42,330 John C Dvorak: was the list Trump derangement syndrome now, 438 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:42,810 we 439 00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:46,140 Adam Curry: had a list we had we had a name for the list. The 440 00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:46,890 rotation that 441 00:25:46,890 --> 00:25:49,170 John C Dvorak: Trump rotation Yeah, the Trump rotation. Let's 442 00:25:49,290 --> 00:25:50,490 review online. Let's 443 00:25:50,490 --> 00:25:54,480 Adam Curry: review. It's only 58 seconds. Let's see from 2016 444 00:25:54,570 --> 00:25:57,300 Let's see if toxic was on the list. I have 445 00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,010 John C Dvorak: my list and you might want to see if there's 446 00:25:59,010 --> 00:26:01,920 anything I left out. This is the Trump rotation and his two 447 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,830 categories is irregular and then there's the criminal but here we 448 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:08,520 go. Ready? Here we go. Liar, incompetent, unhinged, 449 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:12,540 illegitimate President white supremacist, racist bully, 450 00:26:12,570 --> 00:26:17,820 immature Russian agent narcissist mean long ties, 451 00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:22,770 insane tweets too much small hands all penis big red button, 452 00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:30,900 criminal. Me racist, immature sin skin runs the Mark has no 453 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:36,870 money. Unstable, fatter than 239 pounds and bankrupt 25th 454 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:39,750 amendment and should be instituted. He hates women 455 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:44,790 misogynist holds grudges forever plays golf a lot obstruction of 456 00:26:44,790 --> 00:26:48,000 justice, money laundering and clown. 457 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Adam Curry: John? No, no wonder we're making America white 458 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,450 again. So no toxic on the list. You're right. It's new. It's new 459 00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:03,930 for the list. But they're going with a different tact. That the 460 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,360 it's been the white Christian nationalists for a while now. 461 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,330 And now we have to make that into a cult. It's not a 462 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:15,210 religion, by the way. White Nationalist not a religion. 463 00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:20,460 Christian nationalist. Not a Religion. No, it's a cult. And 464 00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:23,400 it's a political cult. And that's what cost is. I don't 465 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,640 think Costas can bring himself to do the full thing. But it 466 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,260 really started with a beautiful switcheroo which included the 467 00:27:31,290 --> 00:27:39,660 University of Alabama, which is a major woke University. I mean, 468 00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:42,870 like major major woke. So 469 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:45,240 John C Dvorak: there was the as bad as Arkansas. 470 00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:50,970 Adam Curry: Maybe even worse, maybe even worse. Watch the 471 00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:54,600 documentary. Was it Bama with all the girls going there and 472 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,700 social media is an interesting documentary anyway. So in 473 00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:03,360 Alabama, there was a court case that went up to the Allah the 474 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,650 Alabama Supreme Court cup at a two couples you're banging your 475 00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:08,910 mic. It was too cold, 476 00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:10,770 John C Dvorak: not banging the mic? Well, whatever it is 477 00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:13,140 something else and I'm trying to stop it from happening. I'm not 478 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:16,440 sure what to lubricate. I do have the IVs. No, I 479 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,660 Adam Curry: have it all. I'm not going to lubricate every time 480 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:21,300 you want me to present it? Or do you want to interject? No, I 481 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:24,450 John C Dvorak: do. I literally have a clip. of it. Of course. 482 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840 The PBS clips have 483 00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:30,240 Adam Curry: a million drive to many clips, I can't even play 484 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,660 them all. But I want to I want to explain because it's fun to 485 00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:37,830 see the switcheroo. And we don't need to have a clip necessarily 486 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:40,770 about what actually happened. Other than two couples in 487 00:28:40,770 --> 00:28:45,030 Alabama, they had had children with IVF IVF. IVF is where you 488 00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:48,270 actually create the child and in a petri dish, and then you 489 00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:51,030 freeze it until you implant it in the womb. And 490 00:28:51,030 --> 00:28:53,610 John C Dvorak: ants for in vitro fertilization. 491 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,190 Adam Curry: Thank you. And you get twins often, by the way, 492 00:28:59,550 --> 00:29:03,510 which is always a fun little side effect. And so they paid a 493 00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:08,340 company to keep their the dad successfully implanted and had 494 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:11,460 kids both of these couples, and then the company that's supposed 495 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:16,050 to take care of their embryo, the frozen embryos, they screwed 496 00:29:16,050 --> 00:29:19,590 it up, and they dropped on the floor swept them up. I don't 497 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,380 know what happened, something horrible went wrong. And so they 498 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:28,350 sued them for wrongful death. Which then, which who knows how 499 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:32,190 much of this is all a setup, but they sue for wrongful death and 500 00:29:32,190 --> 00:29:36,480 the Supreme Court justice in Alabama, came out with the 501 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,570 opinion says yep, their children. So it's wrongful 502 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:42,690 death, therefore, you can be penalized for that. And then the 503 00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:46,110 University of Alabama turns around and goes, Oh, well, we 504 00:29:46,110 --> 00:29:50,820 can do any IVF. Now because it's scary, so scary because we might 505 00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:55,320 get sued if we drop a child on the ground, which is the setup 506 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,650 and the switcheroo happens right away in the mainstream 507 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,620 Unknown: women relying on it. IVF and their advocates had 508 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:05,010 feared the fall of Roe would open the door to States further 509 00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:09,420 restricting reproductive rights. Still, the Alabama decision sent 510 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:10,650 shockwaves this 511 00:30:10,650 --> 00:30:13,770 case or a case like it could go all the way up to the Supreme 512 00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:17,790 Court at some point. And that's what really puts the future of 513 00:30:17,790 --> 00:30:19,320 fertility care at risk. Kate 514 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,620 Weldon LeBlanc heads up resolve New England, an infertility 515 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:26,280 support group, her own daughter Sophie was born through IVF. She 516 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,700 calls it an intensely personal and emotional journey between an 517 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,420 individual and her doctor, not politicians and judges, people 518 00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:36,960 do not understand the medicine of reproductive health care. So 519 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,650 Adam Curry: it's already gone away from IVF. Immediately, no 520 00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:45,810 one's talking about the actual case. Now it's Roe v. Wade. It's 521 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:49,500 the hate children they hate any the Republicans are crazy 522 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,120 Christians, and 523 00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:55,800 Unknown: they are making changes that are going to impact people 524 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,130 that are desperately trying to welcome much wanted children 525 00:30:59,130 --> 00:31:00,030 into their lives. 526 00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:04,650 Adam Curry: Okay. So here's how it gets, I guess, guess what? 527 00:31:05,790 --> 00:31:08,790 John C Dvorak: I love the use of the term much wanted. 528 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:12,960 Adam Curry: This whole thing is crazy. I'm gonna give you a good 529 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,950 example, with the view because that's where America's women go 530 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:18,090 to get their news. But 531 00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:20,580 Unknown: you don't want to explain to Republicans want to 532 00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:24,990 stop rich people from having children doesn't make sense. On 533 00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:25,800 the one hand, they 534 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,870 want you to not have an abortion, then they also don't 535 00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:30,600 want you to have more children make up your mind. Does 536 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,510 Adam Curry: that make sense? She's literally lying and turn 537 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:35,010 and turning everything around, 538 00:31:35,130 --> 00:31:37,740 Unknown: whatever, whatever that I actually think they do want 539 00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:40,230 you to have more children. And they're just not saying the 540 00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:42,420 quiet part out loud, necessarily 541 00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:45,090 Adam Curry: Halston. What is she needs to bring some racism into 542 00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:47,850 it. Remember, it's white Christian nationalists that 543 00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:49,140 we're going after we'll get to that, 544 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,890 Unknown: right, which is multicultural Americans are 545 00:31:52,890 --> 00:31:57,330 going to become the majority population by 20. By 2050, the 546 00:31:57,330 --> 00:32:00,120 Hispanic Hispanic Americans are expected to have the most 547 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,350 population increase of about 6% while the white population is 548 00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:08,700 expected to decrease by about 11%. At this time, the birth 549 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:12,300 rate for white Americans in this country has been falling since 550 00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:16,440 the great recession. And it's dropped almost 23% between 2007 551 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,730 and 2022. So 552 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,920 Adam Curry: what the view has now done is they've taken it 553 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:26,310 from rich whities to they you know, they only the rich whities 554 00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:29,310 want to have babies they don't want to have oh, don't give 555 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,640 don't give black and brown people access to this crazy 556 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,390 technology that is brand new apparently. So 557 00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:40,410 Unknown: but when white women beginning the IVF so that is 558 00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:48,120 that they why they want IVF but they can't say yes, an embryo 559 00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:51,870 embryo they they're they're coming out sort of against it 560 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:57,060 and not being able to explain why they want to have more 561 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,020 American white children born because the birth rate has gone 562 00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:01,890 down. Okay, 563 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,350 Adam Curry: so that's the views take on it. But what really 564 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:11,130 kicked off was this woman from Politico, Heidi pres Bella. And 565 00:33:11,130 --> 00:33:15,960 she went on MSNBC with Michael Steele is not the guy who used 566 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,500 to be the the president of the Republican Party. 567 00:33:19,530 --> 00:33:21,780 John C Dvorak: He used to be the head of the Republican National 568 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:25,140 Committee turned Democrat isn't the kind of guy he is is it 569 00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:29,130 Adam Curry: Greg and Ben she just and she did did exactly 570 00:33:29,130 --> 00:33:32,280 what her WaPo because this isn't political owned by WaPo. 571 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,720 John C Dvorak: Slate is 572 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,930 Adam Curry: owned by Wow. Okay. All right. Well, same overlords 573 00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:43,500 as far as I'm concerned. She She kicked it all off and got it 574 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,860 going. And I think she I think she went a bit too far. But it 575 00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:48,750 was beautiful to see Heidi 576 00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:52,320 Unknown: you got the new speaker, Mike Dawson who's not 577 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,830 afraid to wear his Christianity on his SQLI on his sleeve, his 578 00:33:55,830 --> 00:34:00,090 collar his lapel his head wherever he can wear it. How do 579 00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:04,530 members react to that? How are they responding to this real 580 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,300 strong infusion of Christian nationalism into the 581 00:34:09,299 --> 00:34:12,239 John C Dvorak: lie second, this phony baloney this guy who's 582 00:34:12,269 --> 00:34:16,829 who's hateful. We had it once head of the Republican National 583 00:34:16,829 --> 00:34:19,379 Committee once he was booted off he became a Democrat which he 584 00:34:19,379 --> 00:34:23,819 always was. He was never any good at it. He's This is a lie. 585 00:34:24,269 --> 00:34:27,629 I've watched enough of Mike Johnson he rarely talks about 586 00:34:27,629 --> 00:34:30,959 being religious. He is aware of it on his sleeve 587 00:34:30,990 --> 00:34:34,230 Adam Curry: I won't know but this this is a setup that's been 588 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:37,080 planned. We've got a we've got a documentary and we've 589 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,959 John C Dvorak: got a thesis I'm just pushing back no I love that 590 00:34:39,959 --> 00:34:44,369 crap. I love that you love it. You hear from these boneheads I 591 00:34:44,370 --> 00:34:46,650 Adam Curry: love by the way troll room absolutely spot on. 592 00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:49,380 Meanwhile, white girls are having sex with black men. I 593 00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:53,400 mean, what are we doing? We all know what's really going on. 594 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,960 That's fine. This is America. But no, it's really about making 595 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,840 Trump and his I'm so poor, it's all about Trump. It's all about 596 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,290 Trump. It's all about Trump. And it's a desperate, desperate 597 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:07,770 attempt 598 00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:12,840 Unknown: a real strong infusion of Christian nationalism into 599 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:14,670 the body politic of the house. 600 00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:17,220 I've talked with a lot of experts on this and I've seen it 601 00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:20,880 myself with my reporting, Michael, which is the base of 602 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,180 the Republican Party has shifted, right? Remember when 603 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:28,650 Trump ran in 2016? A lot of the mainline evangelicals wanted 604 00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:33,600 nothing to do with the divorced you know, real estate mogul who 605 00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:35,970 cheated on his wife and with a porn star and all of that, 606 00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:36,990 right? No, 607 00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:39,990 Adam Curry: I don't remember that. Right. What was that 608 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:44,370 really ever thing did did did the main line Christians run 609 00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:48,750 away from Trump? Because? Because he right, because he 610 00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:51,750 cheated on his wife with a porn star or did you make that up in 611 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:57,060 your head lady? That right? That's right. That's the part I 612 00:35:57,060 --> 00:35:59,220 love the most is like, right when 613 00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:03,390 Unknown: Trump ran in 2016. A lot of the mainline evangelicals 614 00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:07,950 wanted nothing to do with the divorced you know, real estate 615 00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:10,860 mogul who cheated on his wife and with a porn star and all of 616 00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:13,740 that. Right. Right. So what happened he was surrounded by 617 00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:18,480 this more extremest. You're gonna hear words like Christian 618 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,200 nationalism, like the New Apostolic reformation these 619 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,290 Adam Curry: now this is this is this got my interest in New 620 00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:29,310 Apostolic reformation. This is something that started in in 621 00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:38,850 1996, by a professor, Dr. Peter Wagner. And the you know, it's 622 00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:42,720 not really mainstream anymore did start kind of the 623 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,230 Charismatics movement, which, you know, if this is what 624 00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:51,300 they're failing on, they don't have any video of the 625 00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:55,050 Charismatics in their churches. Because, you know, they're very 626 00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,380 moving around and speaking in tongues and very vocal, and 627 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:01,440 they're completely you know, the Holy Spirit is working through 628 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,600 them. So, this is the cult Angular, 629 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,990 John C Dvorak: by the way. Well, you just pointed out is a 630 00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:10,620 weakness. Yes. Because the I don't think they really know 631 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:13,740 what they're talking about, probably on any level. No. And 632 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:17,100 so if they if they knew what they were talking about that 633 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,630 that's what they would go get the and you Ryan role of a 634 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:25,410 Pentecostal Thursday night or whatever, weird night they do 635 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:29,370 this, these jumping around things, talking in tongues and 636 00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:30,600 just go for it. 637 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:32,670 Adam Curry: I mean, we have one guy like that in our church, we 638 00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:34,890 love him, you know, he'll just like he's like as tourists like, 639 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,870 Jesus, and, and he's great. But we only have one, you know, but 640 00:37:39,870 --> 00:37:41,040 so, anyway, so you 641 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,050 John C Dvorak: have to imagine a church full of them. That's what 642 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:43,140 you 643 00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:44,790 Unknown: need Christian nationalism, like the New 644 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,290 Apostolic reformation, these are groups that you should get very, 645 00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:54,330 very schooled on because they have a lot of power in Trump's 646 00:37:54,330 --> 00:37:57,030 circle. And the one thing that unites they have a lot of power 647 00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:59,040 in Trump's circle, tell him because there's many different 648 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,890 groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that we're not unites them 649 00:38:01,890 --> 00:38:05,460 as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because 650 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:07,860 Christian nationalist is very different. Is that 651 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,780 Adam Curry: okay, so Christians is very different from Christian 652 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:15,420 nationalists. This is this is part of the meme. They're trying 653 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:20,280 to not piss off Christians, by saying Christian nationalist is 654 00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:21,000 very different 655 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:23,640 Unknown: unites them as Christian nationalists, not 656 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,460 Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalist is very 657 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:30,300 different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as 658 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:34,020 all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority. They 659 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,610 don't come from Congress, they don't come to their Supreme 660 00:38:35,610 --> 00:38:37,710 Court. They come from God. Okay, 661 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,770 Adam Curry: newsflash, Heidi. The rights that we have in the 662 00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:49,110 Bill of Rights, as written or established were not given to us 663 00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:53,580 by Congress, or by the Constitution. The Bill of Rights 664 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:58,650 is a specific denial of things for the government. Then if you 665 00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:01,020 look at the Declaration of Independence, yes, these were a 666 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:07,230 God given rights. And now, but this is the level of knowledge 667 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:10,320 of civics amongst this reporting classes 668 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,440 John C Dvorak: that are they're specifically trying to undermine 669 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360 the Constitution both 670 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:17,820 Unknown: the problem with that is that they are determining 671 00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:23,490 man, men. Men are determining what God is telling them. And in 672 00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:27,600 the past, that so called natural law is, you know, it's a pillar 673 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,450 of Catholicism. Catholicism, for instance, has been used. 674 00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:32,640 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. So we talked to our 675 00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:35,850 lapsed Catholic, is that a pillar of Catholicism? No, I 676 00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:36,840 John C Dvorak: don't know. For 677 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,540 Unknown: good and social justice campaigns. Martin Luther King 678 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:41,250 evoked it in tos. Yes. 679 00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:43,770 Adam Curry: You said all men are created equal. That's what 680 00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:46,680 Martin Luther King said and that and I think Martin Luther King 681 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,290 said that came from God. But you know, that was Martin Luther 682 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:50,070 King. He was better 683 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,980 Unknown: talking about civil rights, but now you have an 684 00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:56,220 extremist element of conservative Christians. 685 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:58,950 Adam Curry: That word I love extremists, not extremists. He 686 00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:59,280 loves 687 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,890 John C Dvorak: that word. Extremis. She says Extremis does 688 00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:05,850 have extremists which everybody in the world says extremist. But 689 00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:07,350 she says extremest Why 690 00:40:07,350 --> 00:40:09,240 Adam Curry: is she doing that? What is the point? 691 00:40:10,349 --> 00:40:12,059 John C Dvorak: Because he used to get it. It's an attention 692 00:40:12,059 --> 00:40:16,559 getter as an attention getting a pronunciation mode work ceramist 693 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:20,400 Unknown: element of conservative Christians who say that this 694 00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:23,760 applies specifically to issues including abortion, gay 695 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,250 marriage, and it's going much further than that, as you see, 696 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:29,340 for instance, with a ruling in Alabama, this week that judges 697 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:35,010 connected to that Dominionist faction in talking about a lot 698 00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:39,750 of other issues, including surrogacy IVF you know, sex 699 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:43,470 education in schools, is there's a lot in addition, 700 00:40:43,710 --> 00:40:46,230 Adam Curry: okay, so what she's trying to do here and I think 701 00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:50,970 she she overshot the mark is she's trying to tie wear, tie 702 00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:57,480 Dominionism and the New Apostolic. What is it New 703 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000 Apostolic is a revolution and eon forgot 704 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,130 John C Dvorak: what she said. But they're not working, she 705 00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:06,180 can't do but she can't jumble all these things together like 706 00:41:06,180 --> 00:41:10,410 that, and hope to get any attention, or get any anybody to 707 00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:12,960 go along with it. Because she, she's nuts. She doesn't know 708 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,280 what she's talking about. 709 00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:17,610 Adam Curry: While she tries to will steal tries to bring her 710 00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:21,630 back on track, because she needs to, of course, connect this to 711 00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:23,700 Mike Johnson, the Speaker of your house, you have to 712 00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:29,010 understand, the whole idea is to tell to tell America, the people 713 00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:31,620 who want to run this country are crazy. 714 00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:33,900 Unknown: You know, it's interesting how DSC is these two 715 00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:40,200 men are trying to carve the GOP into their image. You've got the 716 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:45,060 titular head of the party, Donald Trump, who is not a 717 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:49,740 paragon of Christian virtue, how do they reconcile that? What is 718 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,750 Is it just about oh, he got us a Supreme Court? Is it just about 719 00:41:55,290 --> 00:41:59,160 he advocates for the things that we advocate doesn't matter 720 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,760 whether or not he himself believes them, or has any type 721 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,800 of moral connection, or even a theocratic one, given what we're 722 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,130 saying, 723 00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:10,680 it really depends on the individual but with let's talk, 724 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,260 for instance, about his spiritual adviser, Paula White, 725 00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:16,770 who was a White House employee, she was his spiritual adviser, 726 00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:19,950 she is connected to this Dominionist movement. And a lot 727 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:24,240 of those individuals believe that Trump actually was put here 728 00:42:24,270 --> 00:42:29,220 by God, he even tweeted this video, you know, that God gave 729 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:34,200 us, Trump that he is a serious like, person who is imperfect 730 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,120 vessel, who is nevertheless here, put on earth to do God's 731 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,750 work to put 732 00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:43,170 Adam Curry: it now she's taking that commercial. And she's tying 733 00:42:43,170 --> 00:42:45,990 it all in. I love the effort 734 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:49,530 Unknown: of Christianity back at the center of civic life. And 735 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:53,610 you see that manifesting, not just in the course. And we're 736 00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:57,060 seeing that like with the IVF rolling with the myth of per 737 00:42:57,060 --> 00:43:00,270 stone ruling now that is making its way to the Supreme Court. 738 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:05,370 But with Project 2025, which is an agenda that's being very 739 00:43:05,370 --> 00:43:07,950 detailed agenda that's going to be offered up to President Trump 740 00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:10,500 or if he wins a second term, right. And 741 00:43:11,970 --> 00:43:16,260 Adam Curry: she already knows he's gonna win. Oops. I mean, if 742 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,930 he wins, I mean, it's easy when President Trump 743 00:43:19,860 --> 00:43:23,430 Unknown: to to work through HHS, the Department of Human Health 744 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:26,550 and Human Services, as well as potentially the FDA that would 745 00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:29,400 really kind of bypass even the courts and Congress to do things 746 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,530 like revoke authorization of the abortion pill. And then and this 747 00:43:34,530 --> 00:43:36,960 is the one that doesn't get enough influence. enough 748 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480 attention is the influence or campaign that's taking place. 749 00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:39,690 Oh, 750 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,450 Adam Curry: wait, this is the internet. Now we got to bring in 751 00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:46,170 a Charlie Kirk and turning point USA, because these people are 752 00:43:46,170 --> 00:43:48,810 crazy. They are paying influencers right 753 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:52,740 Unknown: now in the GOP to convince young women to ditch 754 00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:56,700 hormonal birth control that that they are they are sicker, and 755 00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:00,840 they are more stressed out being working women and that they 756 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,620 should embrace being healthier and more natural. And what a 757 00:44:04,620 --> 00:44:08,910 crazy idea being large families and you know, daycare is not 758 00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:11,400 good for your kids either. And all of these things actually 759 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,270 happen at a turning point USA conference for young women 760 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:15,840 leaders. 761 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:19,110 Adam Curry: Okay, so she really overshot the mark. She went way 762 00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:22,470 too far, because she was just supposed to tee up some stuff 763 00:44:22,650 --> 00:44:27,930 and let all the serious media like NPR. Oh, yeah, no and NPR. 764 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,170 Unknown: elitist voices in America. This is NPR. So 765 00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:40,260 Adam Curry: when PBS to NPR brings on this guy think Matthew 766 00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:44,640 Taylor. He's a scholar. He's a scholar with a book and he's 767 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,570 going to really explain to us what's going on with these crazy 768 00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:52,890 Christian nationalists Dominionists dominion theology. 769 00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:56,850 Unknown: The concept was coined by a group of radical Calvinist 770 00:44:57,090 --> 00:44:58,050 theologians called 771 00:44:58,230 --> 00:45:01,470 John C Dvorak: for a second Just a little background under the 772 00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:10,050 Dominionist. slur, yes, it was actually developed and maxed out 773 00:45:10,050 --> 00:45:13,380 during the George W. Bush administration for anyone who 774 00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:13,620 wants 775 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:15,990 Adam Curry: to always think about is that when they, they 776 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:17,640 tried it there. Yeah, 777 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:20,010 John C Dvorak: this is when they first came out into Dominionist. 778 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,590 That's when it really got into the forefront. And there was 779 00:45:22,590 --> 00:45:24,960 discussion after discussion about what the Dominionists 780 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,780 want, they want the end of the world, and the end of the world 781 00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:30,720 is going to take place in Israel. And even though the 782 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,610 Syrian six is going to take place someplace else, they 783 00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:34,680 everyone in the Middle East has their own little area where 784 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,920 Armageddon, of course, but the but the Dominionists believe 785 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,100 it's in Jerusalem or something like that, I may have a few 786 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,410 details wrong. But this was going to be the end of the 787 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:49,230 world. And that's what everyone was pushing for. Because George 788 00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:52,770 W. Bush and the Dominionist want to end the world as we know it, 789 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:54,450 they want the whole thing to blow up. 790 00:45:56,190 --> 00:45:57,690 Adam Curry: Sorry, that was that 791 00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:00,360 John C Dvorak: was the reason for the so it really became a 792 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,270 big deal. So now they're reintroducing the term and the 793 00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:06,150 group and the red a lot of people are very serious about 794 00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:08,760 being Dominionist. I think I heard from a couple of them 795 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,040 myself. And but it's a it's, it's absolutely one of the most 796 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:20,190 fringe of fringe, Christian movements, very fringe, and so 797 00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:23,850 to bring it up as a mainstream anything is ludicrous, dominion 798 00:46:23,850 --> 00:46:27,960 Unknown: theology. The concept was coined by a group of radical 799 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,950 Calvinist theologians called the Christian Reconstructionist. In 800 00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:35,970 the 1960s, and 1970s. These ideas were very influential in 801 00:46:35,970 --> 00:46:38,340 the rise of the religious right in the 1980s. It was this 802 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:42,570 aggressive style of Christian theology that said, Christians 803 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,450 need to fulfill what they would talk about as the Dominion 804 00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:50,700 mandate, take dominion over societies and rule in the name 805 00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:54,780 of Christ. The main vehicle for this idea in ER circles is 806 00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,750 something called the seventh mountain mandate, that became a 807 00:46:57,750 --> 00:47:01,980 charismatic rebranding of these Calvinist dominion theology 808 00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:06,510 ideas that Wagner and his cohort mixed together into the seventh 809 00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:07,170 mountain mandate. 810 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,640 And in fact, Justice Parker referred to the seventh mountain 811 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,790 mandate, in an interview he did with an MA our prophet named 812 00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:21,780 Johnny and Lo. And it was published the same day as the 813 00:47:21,810 --> 00:47:24,630 court's decision that embryos count as people. 814 00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:28,110 Adam Curry: I love this stretch. Because I thought it was going 815 00:47:28,110 --> 00:47:32,190 to be in the opinion, I got the PDF of the Alabama judges 816 00:47:32,190 --> 00:47:35,790 opinion, like, oh, there was nothing in there about that. So 817 00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:40,650 he did an interview with an NAR dude. And it came out the same 818 00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:44,790 day. And she doesn't say anything just as off handedly. 819 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:47,970 Oh, yeah. The seventh mountain mandate, also something I'd 820 00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:49,080 never heard of before. 821 00:47:49,260 --> 00:47:54,120 Unknown: So the seven mountain mandate means that you have to 822 00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:59,730 go into the institutions of government and what else? 823 00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:05,760 The Seven Mountains are family, religion, education, government, 824 00:48:06,330 --> 00:48:11,700 arts and entertainment, media, and business or commerce. Oh, 825 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:12,510 shit, 826 00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:15,090 Adam Curry: forgot podcasting. What's wrong with you? 827 00:48:15,690 --> 00:48:18,720 Unknown: The idea is if you divide up society into these 828 00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:22,230 seven spheres, as you can rule the world times language you'll 829 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:25,860 hear used as well. The idea is that those mountains those those 830 00:48:25,890 --> 00:48:30,180 spheres of society are either ruled over by demonic forces, or 831 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:30,420 by the 832 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:34,290 John C Dvorak: entertainment. Well, that's exactly Taylor 833 00:48:34,290 --> 00:48:35,130 Swift. It's where 834 00:48:35,130 --> 00:48:37,620 Adam Curry: do we not agree? We gotta agree with that. And 835 00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:40,740 Unknown: so the goal for Christians is to rise to the top 836 00:48:40,770 --> 00:48:44,880 of each of the seven mountains in every society and to displace 837 00:48:44,910 --> 00:48:47,910 the demonic powers through spiritual warfare through 838 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:48,480 meanwhile 839 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,270 Adam Curry: the Jews are going Hey, media, that's our mountain, 840 00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:53,460 get off our mountain Christian crazy seven 841 00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,970 Unknown: mountains in every society, and to displace the 842 00:48:56,970 --> 00:49:01,380 demonic powers through spiritual warfare through prophecy, and 843 00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:06,480 take over conquer the mountains and then let Christian influence 844 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,240 flow down from the top. So if you think about conventional 845 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,700 religious right mobilization, it is tended to filter or channel 846 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:17,820 conservative Christian indignation into democratic 847 00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:22,440 means. This is a Vanguard move. This is not a grassroots change 848 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,920 society. This is taking over positions of power in society. 849 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,750 Don't get me from the top down. 850 00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:30,180 Adam Curry: Come on, don't don't give me that. A couple more to 851 00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:32,730 go. I'm skipping as much as I can, because I can already hear 852 00:49:32,730 --> 00:49:33,420 you're annoyed. 853 00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:38,070 John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, what for one thing, I want to back up 854 00:49:38,070 --> 00:49:42,690 at least once in a while and say, This is so fringe, but it's 855 00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:47,100 ridiculous. They bring it in as something is actually happening 856 00:49:47,130 --> 00:49:51,810 at any level. If you go to seventh mountain mandate, and 857 00:49:51,810 --> 00:49:55,140 Wikipedia, they have this kind of a background emphasis never 858 00:49:55,140 --> 00:50:01,560 really became caught on until, I guess the 2013 And then it was 859 00:50:01,590 --> 00:50:04,530 about to seven mountains, not about the other stuff to 860 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:07,860 Dominionist and then they have your prominent followers 861 00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:09,390 Adam Curry: now. Okay, 862 00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:13,740 John C Dvorak: who do we have? Mike Johnson? Yeah, exactly. 863 00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:19,260 rafail Cruz, pastor and father of Senator Ted Cruz, you know, 864 00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:24,930 the guy who tried to kill Kennedy? Paul, a white spiritual 865 00:50:24,930 --> 00:50:29,490 adviser. Yeah, Trump. Yes. But this is Lauren Bobert. Really? 866 00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:33,270 Adam Curry: All right. So but but now we have to take this and 867 00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:35,490 we've got to connect it to the 868 00:50:36,090 --> 00:50:37,800 John C Dvorak: right, they actually want to stop again. 869 00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,910 This is a site this is bought. This is a setup. This was I'm 870 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:45,030 going to look into the target. This has recently been been 871 00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:45,570 added. 872 00:50:45,630 --> 00:50:48,450 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This Oh, I totally agree. The seven 873 00:50:48,450 --> 00:50:51,780 mountain mandate Wikipedia page has been updated recently. Look 874 00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:56,160 at the look at the edits. Yeah, looking now. Okay, so then he 875 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,280 goes into separation of church and state, which I'm going to 876 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,720 skip that one. But what we need to do we need to, we need to 877 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:07,620 connect these crazy people, these crazy Dominionist, seven 878 00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:13,500 mountain charismatic nut jobs, also known as Christian 879 00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:16,050 nationalists, to January 6, 880 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,070 Unknown: but how much of this rhetoric is metaphorical? I 881 00:51:20,070 --> 00:51:24,360 mean, are we talking about real demons? When they talk about 882 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,200 picking up weapons? Are they talking about real weapons? 883 00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:31,170 They would say it's not metaphorical. They believe the 884 00:51:31,170 --> 00:51:34,290 demons are real. But they would say they are only talking about 885 00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:37,920 spiritual warfare. No challenges. If you go and listen 886 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,830 to their rhetoric, it is incredibly violent, violent, 887 00:51:40,830 --> 00:51:44,130 they're pointing at actual people, pointing at the 888 00:51:44,130 --> 00:51:47,730 Democratic Party pointing at disloyal Republicans as they 889 00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:50,610 view them, and saying, Those people are not actually 890 00:51:50,610 --> 00:51:53,430 responsible for their actions because they are being 891 00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:57,540 orchestrated by demons. And we need to fight the demons. And 892 00:51:57,540 --> 00:52:01,890 this literal demonization of their enemies is one of the 893 00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:06,090 major contributing factors to the chaos on January 6, they are 894 00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:09,120 pointing at them and saying that building is infested with 895 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,240 demons, we need to fight the demons. I did 896 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,570 Adam Curry: not hear those chants. On January 6, I haven't 897 00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:17,400 seen that footage. And it's only 898 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,410 Unknown: a matter of time. If you keep doing that before 899 00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:22,620 someone says, Yeah, we need to fight against those people. So 900 00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:25,410 that they are leaders are careful, they know where the 901 00:52:25,410 --> 00:52:30,390 line is between truly irresponsible speech that could 902 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:33,300 get you in legal trouble. None of them have been prosecuted or 903 00:52:33,450 --> 00:52:36,690 even face any legal consequences for their role in January 6. 904 00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:40,110 They know that what is protected by free speech, and they walk 905 00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:42,870 right up to that line. But they're always careful not to 906 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:43,470 cross it. 907 00:52:43,530 --> 00:52:46,980 Adam Curry: I'm not sure what he means with that bit at all. But 908 00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:51,000 his job here with his book, and there's a couple books out, is 909 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,280 to connect the Trump backing from Christian nationalists to 910 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,600 January 6. And all of this is of course, a setup to a wonderful 911 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,800 documentary called God and country, which is produced by 912 00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:09,750 none other than Rob Reiner, because he is the final hope for 913 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:13,830 the Democrats, the final hope to get rid of Trump by telling 914 00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:15,600 everybody the truth, we 915 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,910 Unknown: have a new project that I also want to make sure people 916 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:20,760 know about your documentary, God and country, which looks at this 917 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,280 issue of Christian nationalism, we have a little bit of it. 918 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,840 Let's take a look. Christian 919 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,380 John C Dvorak: nationalism uses Christianity as a means to an 920 00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:34,950 end. In being some form of authoritarianism. Being a 921 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:36,270 Christian is 922 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:39,840 Unknown: about the values of inclusion, Christian 923 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,180 nationalism, it's certainly not based on the values of the 924 00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:43,950 gospel. God 925 00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:46,620 wants America to be saved. 926 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,400 They're told over and over and over again, that you're in 927 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,150 danger. You 928 00:53:51,150 --> 00:53:53,670 Adam Curry: need to fight if you don't want to lose your country, 929 00:53:53,790 --> 00:53:59,370 we are in a civil war. And now, what's being said here is the is 930 00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:03,060 true, absolutely. The Christians are always talking about we 931 00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:05,580 don't want to lose our country and the demons and all that, but 932 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:09,810 there's overlaying January 6 footage, as only Rob Reiner 933 00:54:09,810 --> 00:54:10,260 could do, 934 00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:12,930 Unknown: we'll show you in the documentary. And by the way, 935 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:17,760 there are very conservative Christian evangelicals, pastors, 936 00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:22,200 very respected people in the in the Christian community that are 937 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,840 frightened of this Christian nationalist movement, because 938 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,010 it's not They not only frightened about it hurting 939 00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:33,060 democracy, but Christianity itself. And we show in the film 940 00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:38,370 that this movement was the foundation for January 6, moving 941 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,520 elements that made January 6, and the insurrection happened. 942 00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:45,810 And now we have a speaker of the House who is an avowed Christian 943 00:54:45,810 --> 00:54:51,000 nationalists even says that the the teachings of the Bible and 944 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,600 what he believes that whenever he believes God's will is 945 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:58,170 overtakes the Constitution and that all decisions have to be 946 00:54:58,170 --> 00:55:03,780 made based on his thinking. So, we have this now in inculcated 947 00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:08,250 in our government. And Donald Trump is more than happy to be 948 00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:12,300 there mouth. And we see this, this connection, and it's 949 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,090 brought out in the film. And it's very scary because it's 950 00:55:15,090 --> 00:55:18,300 very possibility. We talked about it in the film scared that 951 00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:23,070 we could slip into an autocracy very easily. You hear this all 952 00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:23,580 the time and 953 00:55:25,230 --> 00:55:26,100 John C Dvorak: say, what any minute, 954 00:55:26,910 --> 00:55:29,760 Unknown: any minute on many other shows that the fight right 955 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,810 now is between whether or not we preserve our democracy, or we 956 00:55:33,810 --> 00:55:38,550 slip into a theocratic autocracy. This movement wants, 957 00:55:38,790 --> 00:55:42,150 they believe that this is a white Christian nation. That's 958 00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:44,940 what it should be. And that's what we bring out in the film. 959 00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:49,710 And they're not only poisoning the democracy, they're also 960 00:55:49,710 --> 00:55:51,630 poisoning Christianity. 961 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:56,640 John C Dvorak: Oh, shoot. Oh, yes. Here's the real irony. And 962 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,680 the big disappointment here. Rob Reiner is a direct I used to be 963 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,060 a really good director for fictional product. He wasn't 964 00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:10,590 he's not a documentarian. The Democrats lost their guy, 965 00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:16,350 Michael Moore, when he did his documentary on the scam of 966 00:56:16,350 --> 00:56:21,600 climate change. And they just he was just eliminated from the 967 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,690 picture. Where's Michael Moore this this go around when he's 968 00:56:24,690 --> 00:56:28,290 usually does the kind of documentaries that now they have 969 00:56:28,290 --> 00:56:32,280 to pass it off to Rob Reiner. Yeah, who's not a documentarian. 970 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,990 It doesn't know what he's doing? Well, 971 00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:38,910 Adam Curry: he produced it. A guy named Dan Pat land is the 972 00:56:38,910 --> 00:56:44,190 director. I'm not familiar with him. And I have a clip of them 973 00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:48,210 both in a minute. But I just wanted to give a little, a 974 00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:51,270 little palate refresher here with joy Reed 975 00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:53,130 Unknown: Johnson is so far out there that even other 976 00:56:53,130 --> 00:56:56,700 Republicans are pushing back on the God talk. But this is why we 977 00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:59,940 need to be very concerned. Mike Johnson has the conviction, the 978 00:56:59,940 --> 00:57:03,450 motivation, and now the opportunity to steal the next 979 00:57:03,450 --> 00:57:07,590 election for Donald Trump. He is a far right wing evangelical 980 00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:10,920 Christian who suggested his election his house speaker was 981 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,510 ordained literally by God even billing himself as a modern day, 982 00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:16,320 Moses. 983 00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:18,570 Adam Curry: I don't I don't remember that. 984 00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:21,630 John C Dvorak: I don't remember that either. But does that is 985 00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:25,620 that different than every black football player in the world 986 00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:29,640 thanking God and Jesus after the game when they win? Oh, how 987 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:29,850 about 988 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,000 Adam Curry: how about the Grammys? Thank you for God gave 989 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,840 me the Liberty grant. 990 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,840 John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, you can only do that so far. Taylor 991 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,720 Swift is gonna get mad. But oh, 992 00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:42,120 Adam Curry: here comes your kicker. So 993 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,130 Unknown: if God tells him to steal a few elections to make 994 00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:47,460 Trump president what you're gonna do? And then what happens 995 00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:51,930 if God tells him to make Trump president for life? Oh, 996 00:57:51,930 --> 00:57:52,740 Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. 997 00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:57,690 John C Dvorak: All right. This is she she's gonna burn in hell. 998 00:57:57,810 --> 00:57:59,550 Let's face it. Okay, so 999 00:57:59,550 --> 00:58:01,500 Adam Curry: I only have three more clips, and then I'll stop. 1000 00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:04,290 I could play 20 more because I find it fascinating to 1001 00:58:04,290 --> 00:58:06,150 John C Dvorak: do a whole show. We do a special once you do a 1002 00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:06,660 special. 1003 00:58:08,310 --> 00:58:12,150 Adam Curry: A special. Yeah. Do you remember? Okay, maybe I'll 1004 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:16,560 do a special what what should I call it? Oh, by the way. We were 1005 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,340 looking for like a genocide Joe name for Hillary. We got 1006 00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:24,480 Holocaust, Hillary. It writes itself. I can't believe that we 1007 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,690 didn't come up with it. So we did now Do you remember Laura 1008 00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:28,560 Flanders? 1009 00:58:29,550 --> 00:58:31,980 John C Dvorak: Course she still has a show? Did you know that? 1010 00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:35,940 Adam Curry: I didn't. I didn't know she had a TV podcast a show 1011 00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:38,220 John C Dvorak: a podcast show does she has a she does show 1012 00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:39,330 that goes over the air. 1013 00:58:39,570 --> 00:58:42,060 Adam Curry: So this was a podcast. Okay, well, I 1014 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,270 John C Dvorak: think her podcast is the same show. Well, 1015 00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:48,570 Adam Curry: Laura Flanders had Rob Reiner. And all 1016 00:58:49,290 --> 00:58:51,930 John C Dvorak: those two together just like and Dan price 1017 00:58:51,930 --> 00:58:52,620 it and it 1018 00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:54,450 Adam Curry: really is surprised because there were some 1019 00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:59,280 revelations in here. So Briner produce the movie, the movie, I 1020 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,460 say with the big name the documentary, Dan Petland is the 1021 00:59:02,460 --> 00:59:03,780 director. Well, 1022 00:59:03,810 --> 00:59:05,610 Unknown: then this top class of ambassadors. 1023 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,670 Adam Curry: So what he's doing here, he's going to, he has a 1024 00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:10,350 chart and he says, Hold 1025 00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:13,140 John C Dvorak: on a second. How come he's going around that what 1026 00:59:13,140 --> 00:59:16,590 producer to you know, and we have a few that work on our 1027 00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:21,690 show. Go around to promote, usually the director or the main 1028 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,930 character is usually it's not the producer nests. And this is 1029 00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:28,020 producer director that goes around promoting the movie 1030 00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:29,760 unless they did it. But 1031 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,640 Adam Curry: because they're desperate, there's nothing left 1032 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,660 to do. But now just go straight to religion, which is one of the 1033 00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:40,530 most unAmerican things I could think of, to be honest, to go 1034 00:59:40,530 --> 00:59:43,320 after religion and then you know, couch it in all it's just 1035 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,660 some fringe group and they're all behind Trump. In the Dan, 1036 00:59:48,690 --> 00:59:52,620 Dan guy, he's dumb because he says things that are stupid. So 1037 00:59:52,860 --> 00:59:56,760 he, he has this chart that she puts up on the screen, and he 1038 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,070 shows that 1/3 of America is is really Christian, they're, you 1039 01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:04,680 know, they're just Christian. They they believe in God and 1040 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,340 Jesus Christ. And then there's another third in the middle. And 1041 01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:12,810 they might be, maybe we can sway them. But he has to admit that 1042 01:00:12,810 --> 01:00:15,840 two thirds of America is just kind of believes in Jesus Christ 1043 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,520 and God. But so and he says, But you know, this movie, this movie 1044 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,510 that he made, is to convince that 1/3 in the middle to flip, 1045 01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:26,460 I guess, away from Jesus, 1046 01:00:26,970 --> 01:00:30,990 Unknown: well, then this top class wrestlers, those are 1047 01:00:30,990 --> 01:00:33,390 probably most of the people we're talking about when we say 1048 01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:37,080 Christian nationalists, this may be as much as 20% of the 1049 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:42,570 population. Okay, that's a huge, huge number 20%, who have deeply 1050 01:00:42,570 --> 01:00:45,870 held beliefs that the United States is adopting again, 1051 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,130 John C Dvorak: I'm listening to this, and I can't tell if it's 1052 01:00:50,130 --> 01:00:53,940 Rob Reiner speaking in a lower register, or is it Laura 1053 01:00:53,970 --> 01:00:55,320 speaking, I can't tell, 1054 01:00:55,350 --> 01:00:58,410 Adam Curry: well, it's Petland. It's the damn guy. Oh, 1055 01:00:58,410 --> 01:01:01,080 Unknown: it's the other guy. He sounds like a combination of the 1056 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,730 2%, who have deeply held beliefs that the United States is and 1057 01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:09,300 should be officially a Christian nation and are looking to write 1058 01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:12,360 that into law. That's the population that we have to be 1059 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,160 worried about. But what makes it so difficult to address is that 1060 01:01:17,310 --> 01:01:21,060 when you consider the next tear, people you'd call accommodators, 1061 01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,420 of Christian nationalism, or even resistors. Now you're 1062 01:01:24,420 --> 01:01:28,680 talking about, really, almost two thirds to three quarters of 1063 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,820 the country have at least some bit of Christian nationalist 1064 01:01:32,820 --> 01:01:35,940 belief. And some of that is fine. Of course, this is 1065 01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:37,950 basically a Christian nation, there's a background of 1066 01:01:37,950 --> 01:01:40,920 Christianity and throughout the, you know, the history of this 1067 01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:44,970 republic, sort of benign ways that it starts, which is just 1068 01:01:44,970 --> 01:01:48,060 recognizing that there's a lot of Christian people here quickly 1069 01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:52,590 becomes a slippery slope, with this casual language of WoW, but 1070 01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:54,930 the United States is basically a Christian nation. Well, what 1071 01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:57,870 does that mean? What does that mean? And I think what we have 1072 01:01:57,870 --> 01:02:00,930 to do is we have to draw that bright line, again, between the 1073 01:02:00,930 --> 01:02:04,470 separation of church and state, which is a foundational American 1074 01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:08,430 principle, which I cannot believe in the year 2024 is 1075 01:02:08,430 --> 01:02:09,570 becoming fuzzy to people. 1076 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,640 Adam Curry: So what they're trying to say is that the 1077 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:16,080 separation of church and state, which is which they all point to 1078 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,100 the First Amendment, where the First Amendment says, the 1079 01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,890 government shall make no religion, official religion 1080 01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:26,280 cannot block a religion, of course, did matter, because the 1081 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,250 church is closed anyway, when they were told, Oh, scary COVID. 1082 01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:32,250 But what they're trying to do is turn it around a little bit and 1083 01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:35,190 say, Hey, these Christians, they can't be making laws based on 1084 01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:40,080 what they believe. And there is something called the lemon test, 1085 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,880 I believe, which could be used to stop lawmakers. But in 1086 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,810 general, if you're a Marxist or socialist, you make and we have, 1087 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,070 we have lots of socialist based laws and Marxist based laws. But 1088 01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:57,300 they're very afraid that the crazy Christian nationalists are 1089 01:02:57,300 --> 01:03:00,900 going to take hold, and they're going to make all the laws based 1090 01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:02,490 upon what God told them. 1091 01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:04,680 Unknown: Well, one of the things I learned that I didn't know 1092 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,130 before of Robert from the film was just how recent it is that 1093 01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:10,680 the word God appears on all coins and the Pledge of 1094 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,670 Allegiance. Well, 1095 01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:17,730 I was in school, actually, in 1954, when they added under God 1096 01:03:17,730 --> 01:03:19,680 in the Pledge of Allegiance. Yes. And you know 1097 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,360 Adam Curry: why they did that? Was this true? In 1954, 1098 01:03:24,990 --> 01:03:28,560 President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words under 1099 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:35,730 God, because of commies like you. They were afraid of 1100 01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:39,300 communists taken over our country and using our Pledge of 1101 01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:43,320 Allegiance as a communist mantra. So the added, God 1102 01:03:43,350 --> 01:03:46,350 Unknown: used to be one nation, indivisible, then it became one 1103 01:03:46,350 --> 01:03:48,840 nation under God, indivisible. And I remember when that 1104 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,600 happened, because we gave that pledge every morning and in 1105 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,260 school. So it you know, it really started happening around 1106 01:03:55,260 --> 01:03:59,310 then. And we've seen it grow over time, but the question you 1107 01:03:59,310 --> 01:04:03,300 asked, which is how do you undo it? And the way in which you 1108 01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:07,530 undo it is do it not, you know, you're never gonna get that hard 1109 01:04:07,530 --> 01:04:11,190 core group of people that just believe it, and you can't 1110 01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:15,600 convince them. It's those others those other layers that Dan 1111 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,990 talked about, if you can get to those people to understand make 1112 01:04:18,990 --> 01:04:24,420 them understand that this is destroying their their faith in 1113 01:04:24,420 --> 01:04:28,440 a way that's it's undermining their faith. That's the way in 1114 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,440 which I think you can undo it and then because 1115 01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:34,350 Adam Curry: these crazy Christian nationalists are 1116 01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:36,270 really hurting Jesus, 1117 01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:40,020 Unknown: there's all kinds of you know, pie in the sky kind of 1118 01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:43,170 things like getting rid of the Electoral College and things 1119 01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:46,920 like that, which would actually make it more democratic majority 1120 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,180 will. We are we 1121 01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:51,270 enlightened, really majority get rid of it high in the sky, but 1122 01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:53,160 Adam Curry: if we really want to get rid of it rule 1123 01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:56,220 Unknown: in the country, there are a lot of safeguards for the 1124 01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:59,970 minority to make sure that they're not, you know, run rough 1125 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,390 John yes over, you know, my Bible electoral college, 1126 01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:05,610 Adam Curry: he wants to get rid of it. It's pie in the sky. It's 1127 01:05:05,610 --> 01:05:08,610 like a dream is what he means by that. It's a dream to get rid of 1128 01:05:08,610 --> 01:05:10,890 that. We'll work on that already. 1129 01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:14,640 Unknown: But when when that minority gets too much power, 1130 01:05:14,970 --> 01:05:19,350 then they're running roughshod over the vast majority. That's 1131 01:05:19,350 --> 01:05:22,620 what you have to wrestle with. And that's our it's, it's 1132 01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:26,580 interesting to understand how it works. 1133 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,120 Adam Curry: Alright, so final clip, Rob Reiner. I thought he 1134 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,560 was Jewish. He was born Jewish into a Jewish family. 1135 01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:38,190 John C Dvorak: But we have an atheist. Oh, no, 1136 01:05:38,190 --> 01:05:41,130 Adam Curry: we have a lot to learn about. Ron Reiner's 1137 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,050 religious beliefs 1138 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,370 John C Dvorak: become a Buddhist 1139 01:05:44,460 --> 01:05:47,340 Unknown: Oh, from you've got on a journey yourself. You've 1140 01:05:47,340 --> 01:05:50,430 talked about in the context of this film. Even 1141 01:05:50,430 --> 01:05:53,550 though I am Jewish, I was not raised that way. But when in a 1142 01:05:53,550 --> 01:05:56,790 time in my life, when I was going through the worst period 1143 01:05:56,820 --> 01:06:02,400 of soul searching, I read everything I read Buddhism, and 1144 01:06:02,430 --> 01:06:06,840 you know, books about Christianity and Hinduism, I 1145 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,670 read everything. And what I came around thinking is the, if you 1146 01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:16,080 look at the core teachings of Jesus, that makes the most sense 1147 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:21,450 and made the most sense to me, the idea of, you know, do unto 1148 01:06:21,450 --> 01:06:23,730 others, it's, and there's a reason why it's called the 1149 01:06:23,730 --> 01:06:29,130 golden rule. Because if you can live by that, everything else 1150 01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:32,370 falls into place. You don't need the 10 commandments, you don't 1151 01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:36,090 need a lot if you just live by that rule. And then I look at 1152 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,960 the film, and I look at what's happened in this country. And it 1153 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,500 seems like we've come so far from those teachings. 1154 01:06:43,650 --> 01:06:46,770 Adam Curry: Okay, so just to review, he writes, he read some 1155 01:06:46,770 --> 01:06:49,110 books about Christianity, he didn't read the Bible, we read 1156 01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:52,020 some books about him. And he says, you know, the teachings of 1157 01:06:52,020 --> 01:06:55,740 Jesus Do unto others, which I think he's referring to the 1158 01:06:55,740 --> 01:06:57,930 sermon on the mount the Beatitudes, which are a little 1159 01:06:57,930 --> 01:07:02,550 bit more than that, but if you are a masochist, like he is, do 1160 01:07:02,550 --> 01:07:05,730 unto others. I think he loves that. Yeah, let me let me be 1161 01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:10,020 mean and hateful and spiteful, and extremely hateful this guy, 1162 01:07:10,050 --> 01:07:13,770 and he wants that to be done to him, then that's his golden 1163 01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:17,880 rule. That's his entire takeaway from Hinduism, Buddhism, some 1164 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,380 books about Christianity, and being born a Jew, is please be 1165 01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:26,640 as mean to me as I am to you. This guy, this guy is sinful. 1166 01:07:26,670 --> 01:07:30,180 That's what he is. So you 1167 01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:33,240 John C Dvorak: can look for us a long way. You got a shaggy dog 1168 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,100 story with that? Well, 1169 01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:39,210 Adam Curry: I mean, I have so it's like PBS. Everyone was 1170 01:07:39,210 --> 01:07:44,010 rolling it out. It was insane. And this is what I think is 1171 01:07:44,010 --> 01:07:47,160 gonna happen. These people are so stupid. They're actually 1172 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,440 going to create revival in America. 1173 01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:53,370 John C Dvorak: That's overdue. It's a cycle. Yeah. It is. 1174 01:07:53,790 --> 01:07:57,360 overdue. Studying this one was, wasn't 1175 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,570 Adam Curry: a glace, wasn't it? Late 60s, late 60s, early 70s. 1176 01:08:00,570 --> 01:08:03,360 We had a war going on. But everybody liked 1177 01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:06,810 John C Dvorak: not unlike in the 1800s. It was a real revival. 1178 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,200 Adam Curry: 1800s tell me I don't remember some tremendous, 1179 01:08:10,230 --> 01:08:13,410 John C Dvorak: like a decade of revivalism that was just out of 1180 01:08:13,410 --> 01:08:17,190 control. We have seen nothing like that in our lifetimes. 1181 01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:19,560 Adam Curry: Do you think it's a cycle and we're overdue out 1182 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,560 these shorts on? I think it's a cycle and we're overdue. It's 1183 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,030 the Jesus oppas coming? 1184 01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:28,470 John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know. If the CIA gets its act 1185 01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:32,040 together, maybe. But so I'm not seeing. 1186 01:08:32,970 --> 01:08:35,670 Adam Curry: I think they are so desperate. This is the last 1187 01:08:35,670 --> 01:08:39,390 thing they can do. Let's connect it to Trump. Let's connect it to 1188 01:08:39,570 --> 01:08:43,050 January 6. Let's bring in Rob Reiner. I mean, that says 1189 01:08:43,050 --> 01:08:46,950 desperation right there. And I think you're right. We're 1190 01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:51,120 overdue. It's a backfire. We're going to have a revival and I 1191 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:51,960 look forward to it. 1192 01:08:52,170 --> 01:08:54,270 John C Dvorak: I look at this slightly different than you do. 1193 01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:57,300 Okay. I think this is just laying the groundwork for 1194 01:08:57,300 --> 01:09:01,830 excuses how Trump lost the election to Biden, when they 1195 01:09:01,860 --> 01:09:04,800 when they go through the same process of rigging the election, 1196 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,240 like they did last time. It was done with mail in ballots, which 1197 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,200 is gonna be much more difficult to pull off this time. And 1198 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,570 you're gonna sit and when it happens, you say, Well, you 1199 01:09:15,570 --> 01:09:20,580 know, Trump says he got stolen. But in fact, and then it goes 1200 01:09:20,580 --> 01:09:23,490 through the same thing you just did. And these are the reasons 1201 01:09:23,490 --> 01:09:24,210 he lost. 1202 01:09:24,690 --> 01:09:26,880 Adam Curry: Oh, you so yours. Wait a minute, how does that 1203 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,060 work with our thesis that the Democrats want Trump to win? 1204 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,510 John C Dvorak: I think in fact, I, well, it goes this, the two 1205 01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:37,110 things can be true at the same time. I think the smart 1206 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:42,000 Democrats do want Trump to win. And because they know that 1207 01:09:42,030 --> 01:09:44,580 things are going to be so screwed up. They may be out of 1208 01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:48,090 office for a long time if Biden stays in for another four years, 1209 01:09:48,510 --> 01:09:54,120 and that's the smart money. But Biden's people that got him in 1210 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,420 the first time, which seems to be like a locomotive out of 1211 01:09:57,420 --> 01:10:00,360 control, which is basically the Obama administration. No You 1212 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,400 know they're they don't think that way 1213 01:10:03,689 --> 01:10:08,999 Adam Curry: well I mean I I don't see how it just can't 1214 01:10:08,999 --> 01:10:13,469 happen now it's like I mean we're there yet unless there's 1215 01:10:13,619 --> 01:10:16,109 unless they cheat better than the Republicans the Republicans 1216 01:10:16,109 --> 01:10:16,979 will be ready though. 1217 01:10:17,460 --> 01:10:18,660 John C Dvorak: Now the Republicans should be able to 1218 01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:24,030 cheat Yeah, it should hold their own doing it. I don't I've never 1219 01:10:24,030 --> 01:10:26,850 thought the Republicans were as good at it as the Democrats just 1220 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:32,550 for example, Washington State all mail in ballots all Republic 1221 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:36,480 all Democrats and really bad Democrats. Lousy ones like 1222 01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:41,490 insolently California. Absentee ballots are way to go most 1223 01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:44,850 people do that. And then there's also other notorious rigging 1224 01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:45,810 mechanisms in the 1225 01:10:47,070 --> 01:10:53,250 Adam Curry: cracy man it's democracy democracy I would love 1226 01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:57,810 to switch gears to this fake Moon Landing if and I see you 1227 01:10:57,810 --> 01:11:00,780 have a three by three so I'd be excited to do that if your game 1228 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,360 John C Dvorak: yeah, I want to do this yeah, let's do the moon 1229 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,970 landing. I got a three by three here that I want to start it 1230 01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:10,200 well, you played the jingle and 1231 01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:15,510 Adam Curry: three by three Hello, everybody. By JC day Yes, 1232 01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:17,790 we got a bearing story from ABC 1233 01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:26,760 over 50 years to get back to the moon, everybody and boy was it a 1234 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,480 doozy? Are you waiting for the video standby John's got a three 1235 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:34,080 by three to see how the Big Three news networks news shows 1236 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,100 covered it. 1237 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,980 John C Dvorak: We'll start with the top network for people who 1238 01:11:37,980 --> 01:11:41,700 watch news on TV ABC. It's 1239 01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:44,490 Unknown: a mission with major implications the first American 1240 01:11:44,490 --> 01:11:47,340 spacecraft to land on the moon in more than 50 years. 1241 01:11:47,460 --> 01:11:51,480 Separation confirmed the lunar lander Odysseus nicknamed od 1242 01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:55,350 built by Houston base intuitive machines blasting off a week ago 1243 01:11:55,380 --> 01:11:59,400 on a SpaceX Falcon nine rocket traveling a quarter of a million 1244 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,580 miles to the moon od carrying instruments that will gather 1245 01:12:02,580 --> 01:12:06,060 information about the lunar surface ahead of NASA's Artemis 1246 01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:11,670 mission to the moon in 2026. With humans on bull Americans 1247 01:12:11,670 --> 01:12:15,870 first landed on the moon on Apollo 11. In 1969, we will be 1248 01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:16,410 here 1249 01:12:17,010 --> 01:12:18,000 from now on 1250 01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:23,700 or what will be truly a historic time for man 1251 01:12:29,490 --> 01:12:34,650 the last time back in 1972 On Apollo 17. Now OTS mission sets 1252 01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:37,590 into motion a new beginning and exploring the moon and the 1253 01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,610 universe. That self pool The Dark Side of the Moon has water 1254 01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:45,240 and ice which is critical if we want to use the moon as a home 1255 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,630 base to one day explore Mars and beyond the 1256 01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:52,560 moon has 1/6 the gravity of earth and no atmosphere. So it's 1257 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,920 a much easier place to launch deeper into the solar system. It 1258 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,450 really is the launching pad into human exploration out into deep 1259 01:13:00,450 --> 01:13:00,900 space. 1260 01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:06,840 And David we have just received confirmation od has made it to 1261 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,500 the lunar surface at that South Pole that critical South Pole 1262 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,880 where there is water and ice. So od has officially landed on the 1263 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,120 moon 1264 01:13:15,150 --> 01:13:18,120 Adam Curry: by MIT. I thought that it was going to find out if 1265 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,800 there was water and yes and 1266 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,770 John C Dvorak: I'm thinking and how do they know there's water 1267 01:13:22,770 --> 01:13:25,590 and ice if it's winter to see if there's water and ice because 1268 01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:25,740 they 1269 01:13:25,740 --> 01:13:28,170 Adam Curry: had a camera for the landing. Oh, I'm sorry, they 1270 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:32,340 didn't. It's so crazy. It's so crazy when you see the old 1271 01:13:32,340 --> 01:13:36,930 footage almost as old as I am. of you know driving the dune 1272 01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:42,990 buggy playing golf about bounced around golf but we can't seem to 1273 01:13:42,990 --> 01:13:46,530 have an actual video of the landing of this thing which 1274 01:13:46,530 --> 01:13:48,990 looks like something that Adam and John could have put together 1275 01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:53,970 in our garage with some tin foil and some broom handles well was 1276 01:13:53,970 --> 01:13:58,650 John C Dvorak: put together in Texas So my understanding is 1277 01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:04,800 that it actually did come down and it's kind of fell over. So 1278 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,460 now it's on its side and it doesn't have any mechanisms to 1279 01:14:08,460 --> 01:14:11,580 upright itself. It's not like you know one of those like a 1280 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:15,150 It's not like a like a cheap toy he used to be able to buy at 1281 01:14:15,150 --> 01:14:18,000 Toys R Us at whatever the kid did. It would slip itself back 1282 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,610 to normal. Like they can't even come up with that that 1283 01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:24,900 technology is old is with toys to have it flips over his back 1284 01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:25,800 back standing up 1285 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,890 Adam Curry: basically sand in the bottom of the big. The big 1286 01:14:28,890 --> 01:14:32,730 clown you could hit and it was read write itself. Nice. How 1287 01:14:32,730 --> 01:14:33,750 about training wheels? 1288 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,590 John C Dvorak: Let's go with Tom Costello and NBC. 1289 01:14:38,820 --> 01:14:42,690 Unknown: Leave it to a 14 foot robot named Odysseus to stick 1290 01:14:42,690 --> 01:14:47,790 the first US Moon Landing since Apollo stick the landing. 1291 01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:52,140 Adam Curry: Are you kidding me? Stick the landing. I mean that's 1292 01:14:52,170 --> 01:14:56,220 that's a term with a plane. I can't believe these people are 1293 01:14:56,220 --> 01:14:56,670 doing what we 1294 01:14:56,670 --> 01:15:00,000 Unknown: can confirm. Without a doubt because our equipment is 1295 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,960 On the surface of a man 1296 01:15:01,050 --> 01:15:03,390 Houston based intuitive machines now 1297 01:15:06,150 --> 01:15:08,040 Adam Curry: does not sticking the landing at all we 1298 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,190 John C Dvorak: can confirm it's on the moon if it crashed landed 1299 01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:14,580 in blue until the million pieces you could say the same thing. 1300 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,880 Unknown: Apollo, we can confirm. Without a doubt 1301 01:15:18,990 --> 01:15:21,360 Adam Curry: right there without a doubt that to me is the lie. 1302 01:15:21,390 --> 01:15:23,670 Without a doubt. He's got doubt without 1303 01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:26,070 Unknown: a doubt because our equipment is on the surface of 1304 01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:27,090 him in Houston 1305 01:15:27,090 --> 01:15:30,540 based intuitive machines now the first private company to 1306 01:15:30,540 --> 01:15:33,150 successfully land on the moon Houston 1307 01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:35,460 Odysseus has found his new home. 1308 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,730 But now troubleshooting a communications issue and with 1309 01:15:44,430 --> 01:15:49,350 one lunar lander this yes launched on a SpaceX rocket just 1310 01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:53,550 seven days ago sending back spectacular photos of earth as 1311 01:15:53,550 --> 01:15:57,510 it rocketed towards the lunar South Pole on board six 1312 01:15:57,540 --> 01:16:01,830 Adam Curry: Nova spectacular pictures of Earth all Did you 1313 01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:05,010 see the one picture I've seen from this thing? Wasn't even 1314 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:11,190 earth it was like a round metal ball was somehow some snow on 1315 01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:15,000 it. I mean, did you see this picture? No, it's very it's 1316 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,070 very, very weird the 1317 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:20,610 Unknown: back spectacular photos of earth as it rocketed towards 1318 01:16:20,610 --> 01:16:25,740 the lunar South Pole. On board six NASA experiments. The ice 1319 01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:28,770 water on the pole makes up NASA's target zone when 1320 01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:31,680 astronauts return in just a few years. Now they're 1321 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,730 Adam Curry: also saying ice water. They're just saying as if 1322 01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:41,220 it's that I'm confused. The top two networks so far have said 1323 01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:44,550 that there is water on the moon. Even though this fallen, this 1324 01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:48,570 tipped over thing is supposed to find out if there's water on the 1325 01:16:48,570 --> 01:16:49,440 moon. This is good. 1326 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,530 Unknown: This is the south pole of the moon. That's correct. In 1327 01:16:52,530 --> 01:16:55,830 a NASA simulator, we saw the hostile conditions they'll have 1328 01:16:55,830 --> 01:17:00,330 to navigate the sun hanging very low on the horizon. Those 1329 01:17:00,330 --> 01:17:05,670 shadows are so long to cut costs, NASA has hired 14 private 1330 01:17:05,670 --> 01:17:09,000 companies to run advanced experiments on the moon, though 1331 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,950 many could fail. It's really 1332 01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:15,120 really difficult to land on the moon, air or slow you down. So 1333 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,530 you can't use parachutes, the 1334 01:17:16,530 --> 01:17:20,670 Odysseus lander will only have 12 to 13 days before its solar 1335 01:17:20,670 --> 01:17:24,810 power runs out. But tonight, just getting there is mission 1336 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:25,920 accomplished. You know, 1337 01:17:26,340 --> 01:17:29,400 Adam Curry: what I love about this is that everyone's coming 1338 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,840 to my side of the argument never landed there. It's so obvious 1339 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,350 now. I mean, people who are all in on they love mosques that 1340 01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:41,040 love space travel. They're looking at this and going. Yeah, 1341 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,280 it can't be that we have this is it's really, really hard. 1342 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,070 There's, you know, it's tough to land on the moon. But how did we 1343 01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:50,490 do it? 50 years ago? Yeah, that wasn't real. That was you know, 1344 01:17:50,490 --> 01:17:54,510 those kinds of the Russians. It's amazing. It's, 1345 01:17:55,290 --> 01:17:58,170 John C Dvorak: I still think that the image of comparing this 1346 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,610 this little piece of crap and it fell over, compared to the 1347 01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:08,310 driving around in a dune buggy, playing golf, playing golf. Golf 1348 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:14,100 is like a kind of a contrast. But you never know it's 1349 01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,190 possible. That's when Wernher von Braun was alive. Yeah. So 1350 01:18:17,190 --> 01:18:23,310 let's go to the CIA's best outlet and see what they have to 1351 01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:23,640 say. 1352 01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:27,120 Unknown: Tonight, the Odyssey of Odysseus has ended on the moon, 1353 01:18:27,330 --> 01:18:30,720 the first American made spacecraft kicking up lunar dust 1354 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,670 in more than a half century, as 1355 01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:34,260 our equipment is on the surface of the moon. 1356 01:18:35,610 --> 01:18:38,520 Mission Control of intuitive machines in Houston 1357 01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:46,200 Adam Curry: also, this this mission control was dorky, like 1358 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,620 a bunch of nerds in a round room. I mean, it didn't have a 1359 01:18:49,620 --> 01:18:52,980 cool look and have a mission controller guy, you know, 1360 01:18:52,980 --> 01:18:57,900 standing there like chewing on a cigar. We're sitting, we're 1361 01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:01,380 sticking the landing boys now. None of that. They know like, 1362 01:19:01,410 --> 01:19:04,380 oh, yeah, we did it. Yeah, what's the first 1363 01:19:04,380 --> 01:19:10,620 Unknown: commercial Moon Landing ever? The final descent from 18 1364 01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:14,670 miles above the lunar surface, a continuous engine burn for 10 1365 01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:18,900 minutes by touchdown. Odysseus had slowed to two miles per 1366 01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:22,380 hour. This is the assembly room. Intuitive co founder Steve 1367 01:19:22,380 --> 01:19:25,770 ultimus showed us the historic moon lander up close last year 1368 01:19:25,770 --> 01:19:26,640 in Houston. By the 1369 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,860 Adam Curry: way that's incorrect. The two miles per 1370 01:19:28,860 --> 01:19:31,230 hour but I have a clip to prove that after the three by three, 1371 01:19:31,530 --> 01:19:31,830 his 1372 01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:35,550 Unknown: company envisions a $100 billion lunar market. 1373 01:19:35,580 --> 01:19:37,860 We're delivering scientific payloads engineering 1374 01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:40,410 demonstration payloads but not the humans themselves. 1375 01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:44,100 And you believe the moon is the next economic frontier. The 1376 01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:49,500 moon is certainly that next step for space exploration. Odysseus 1377 01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:53,340 landed near the lunar South Pole carrying less than 300 pounds of 1378 01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:57,600 cargo, including six instruments for NASA and intuitive customer. 1379 01:19:57,900 --> 01:20:01,170 The space agency hopes to have astronauts moonwalking bear by 1380 01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:04,620 the end of the decade walk some critters, they're never seen 1381 01:20:04,620 --> 01:20:09,660 light so cold, they may contain ice. And water is critical to 1382 01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:11,670 long term space exploration. 1383 01:20:11,790 --> 01:20:15,570 NASA plans to basically hire these companies to send payloads 1384 01:20:15,570 --> 01:20:18,360 to the moon, like like you'd call an Uber or Lyft. But these 1385 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,580 companies have to make it work first. And that's what we're 1386 01:20:20,580 --> 01:20:21,150 seeing today. 1387 01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:26,460 Not since the end of the Apollo era has an American lander park 1388 01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:29,340 itself on the surface of the moon. This mission will last 1389 01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:34,500 roughly a week until lunar night freezes the solar batteries. Oh, 1390 01:20:34,980 --> 01:20:37,620 Adam Curry: and so they want the thing is just dead in a week. 1391 01:20:38,610 --> 01:20:42,810 Oh, man so here is this is so stupid 1392 01:20:42,810 --> 01:20:45,090 John C Dvorak: maybe dead now for all we know. Yeah. Well, 1393 01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:48,720 listen, by the way that report from CBS did not did the right 1394 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:49,770 thing about the water. 1395 01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:51,150 Adam Curry: Yeah, but they lied about the 1396 01:20:51,150 --> 01:20:55,410 Unknown: speed we think we came down with like I said about six 1397 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:59,340 miles an hour this way. And about two miles an hour this way 1398 01:20:59,790 --> 01:21:04,470 and caught a foot in the surface and and the lander has tipped 1399 01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:05,310 like we 1400 01:21:05,310 --> 01:21:07,590 Adam Curry: think he doesn't even know they don't have to 1401 01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:12,270 help telemetry on this thing. That the simplest, the sieve the 1402 01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:17,040 absolute simplest gadget in an airplane can tell you if you're 1403 01:21:17,070 --> 01:21:20,760 flying on your side or upside down. But we think we think we 1404 01:21:20,970 --> 01:21:26,250 are foot caught on you know, maybe it was like a rock or 1405 01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:27,540 something and that we tipped over 1406 01:21:27,570 --> 01:21:31,650 Unknown: the surface and and the lander has tipped like this. And 1407 01:21:31,650 --> 01:21:35,460 we believe this is the surface the orientation of the lander on 1408 01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:36,420 the moon doesn't 1409 01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:39,180 Adam Curry: even know the actual orientation, which I think is to 1410 01:21:39,180 --> 01:21:39,630 spirit. 1411 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,330 Unknown: And nearly 24 hours later Scientists say the lander 1412 01:21:45,330 --> 01:21:48,930 is still stable and they do have communication with it. The sun 1413 01:21:48,930 --> 01:21:51,930 is charging all the batteries on board. Wait 1414 01:21:51,930 --> 01:21:55,200 Adam Curry: a minute, is the Dark Side of the Moon? 1415 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,630 John C Dvorak: No, they they've mentioned that that's at the 1416 01:21:57,630 --> 01:22:01,500 point where the sun is just glimpsing over the horizon. Oh, 1417 01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:08,670 Adam Curry: like a good little use. I believe it right away I 1418 01:22:08,670 --> 01:22:09,870 believe all of this urging 1419 01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:12,480 Unknown: all of the batteries on board. Now keep in mind they 1420 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,270 have not seen any images from the lander at this point and are 1421 01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:19,080 relying simply on data and code to really understand what is 1422 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,350 happening with the lander on the moon. We did talk about pictures 1423 01:22:22,350 --> 01:22:26,100 from the surface. The scientists say we could possibly see some 1424 01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:30,030 images later this weekend. But at this time, scientists are not 1425 01:22:30,030 --> 01:22:33,600 commenting on whether or not any of the payloads on board could 1426 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,660 be in jeopardy if this lander is in fact on its side. 1427 01:22:36,690 --> 01:22:40,290 Adam Curry: They don't even know if it's on his side. I have one 1428 01:22:40,290 --> 01:22:43,470 more report. This will make it a three by three plus one. This is 1429 01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:46,770 from Andersen 360 Kristin tell us what's really going on with 1430 01:22:46,770 --> 01:22:47,550 this moon landing. 1431 01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:49,890 Unknown: The first time a private company has ever done 1432 01:22:49,890 --> 01:22:53,250 this. The first time an American made spacecraft has done this 1433 01:22:53,370 --> 01:22:56,700 since 1972. And Anderson it's the first time that any 1434 01:22:56,700 --> 01:23:00,480 spacecraft has touched down on the south pole of the moon a 1435 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:04,770 critical spot. They think that's where ice is water. It's where 1436 01:23:04,770 --> 01:23:08,700 NASA wants to build a lunar base for Artemis astronauts, the 1437 01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:11,490 first astronauts to return to the moon since the Apollo 1438 01:23:11,490 --> 01:23:14,640 program, and it's where China wants to build a base as well. 1439 01:23:14,670 --> 01:23:19,320 Dr. Anderson's real nail biting moments administrator described 1440 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,560 it as an Apollo 13 moment with no humans on board, of course, 1441 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,990 because of some of the technical issues they had to troubleshoot. 1442 01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:26,670 John C Dvorak: Yeah, what happened? I mean, up until the 1443 01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:29,250 last second the difficulties Oh, yeah, yeah, 1444 01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:31,980 Unknown: Anderson, It's so wild. I mean, they really fixing on 1445 01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:34,980 the fly, they had an issue. You know how radar works Radar 1446 01:23:35,010 --> 01:23:39,240 Radar, it sends out a radio signal, which then bounces off 1447 01:23:39,450 --> 01:23:42,450 an object, which lets you tell how far away you are from it. 1448 01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:46,230 Well, this is LIDAR laser, instead of radio waves, light 1449 01:23:46,230 --> 01:23:49,380 waves bouncing off of it. And that's what the spacecraft this 1450 01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:53,160 robotic uncrewed spacecraft uses to find a safe landing spot 1451 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,520 because the moon has, you know, craters and boulders all over 1452 01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,300 it. There was a problem with intuitive machines is LIDAR 1453 01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:04,890 navigation system. And so it just so happened that NASA had 1454 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,350 an experimental LIDAR payload. 1455 01:24:07,470 --> 01:24:10,170 Adam Curry: I loved a little laugh in there. So just so 1456 01:24:10,170 --> 01:24:11,760 happened. The problem 1457 01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:15,300 Unknown: with intuitive machines is LIDAR navigation system. And 1458 01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:20,310 so it just so happened that NASA had an experimental LIDAR 1459 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:26,040 payload on the lander as well. They were somehow able to patch 1460 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,840 it through to the lunar lander Odysseus and that experimental 1461 01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:35,640 experimental NASA navigation system Lidar is what they were 1462 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:40,110 able to use to get this on the surface of the moon so pretty 1463 01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:44,580 incredible that they were able to pull it off but now we want 1464 01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:46,020 to see the pictures Anderson, right. 1465 01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:49,530 Adam Curry: Yeah, we do right in time for the boys get to work. 1466 01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:50,490 Can 1467 01:24:50,490 --> 01:24:52,560 John C Dvorak: someone explain it was somebody asked? They 1468 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,250 won't even bother to ask why they're using LIDAR instead of 1469 01:24:56,250 --> 01:24:57,030 radar. 1470 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,680 Adam Curry: Because it's LIDAR li EDA our LIDAR. 1471 01:25:02,850 --> 01:25:06,120 John C Dvorak: Lidar, is it show title? LIDAR? 1472 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,200 Adam Curry: I'm writing it down. 1473 01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:08,730 John C Dvorak: Write it down. Write it down. 1474 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:14,700 Adam Curry: LIDAR. I like that a lot. Oh, it's it's also it's 1475 01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:16,620 also a bunch. 1476 01:25:16,650 --> 01:25:18,510 John C Dvorak: That's just a, let's just call it what it is. 1477 01:25:18,510 --> 01:25:18,600 How 1478 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,610 Adam Curry: about how about it being a 1479 01:25:20,610 --> 01:25:23,670 John C Dvorak: rock fell over and that can't get up. I fallen 1480 01:25:23,670 --> 01:25:25,830 and I can't get up. Well, too bad. 1481 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:29,430 Adam Curry: Let's just say none of its true. I'm just I'm not 1482 01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:33,060 believing it. And what is this outfit? What is this intuitive 1483 01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:37,890 machines? Where's the CEO? look him up. look 1484 01:25:37,890 --> 01:25:39,630 John C Dvorak: him up there in a wiki page. 1485 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,550 Adam Curry: Wiki page, but how about now how about a page on 1486 01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:48,840 them? Intuitive machines. It's an American Express Company 1487 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,530 really? Were the investors let me see you the different 1488 01:25:52,530 --> 01:25:58,980 company? No, no, no, no, no. And Houston. We open access to the 1489 01:25:58,980 --> 01:26:00,330 moon for the progress of 1490 01:26:00,330 --> 01:26:03,330 John C Dvorak: humanity. Yeah. Oh, they're American Express 1491 01:26:03,330 --> 01:26:03,750 Company. 1492 01:26:03,780 --> 01:26:08,190 Adam Curry: They're on NASDAQ. Their public company. L U N. R 1493 01:26:08,190 --> 01:26:14,250 is the ticker symbol. Lunar Yes. Founded in 2013. They've had 1494 01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:19,800 three NASA lunar missions. I love this years of executive 1495 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:25,290 aerospace experience. 250 years of experience if you kind of all 1496 01:26:25,290 --> 01:26:27,420 the old dudes who must be working there. 1497 01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:28,620 John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course. 1498 01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:35,490 Adam Curry: So was this a SPAC this this smells of a SPAC? I 1499 01:26:35,490 --> 01:26:37,950 have no idea. Well, I think we should short it. 1500 01:26:41,340 --> 01:26:43,980 John C Dvorak: No one who's ever made money coming in? I don't 1501 01:26:43,980 --> 01:26:45,540 think so. Wow. 1502 01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:49,920 Adam Curry: Yeah. I thought it's yes. No, it's not American 1503 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,110 Express is an American company headquartered in Houston, 1504 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:58,530 founded by Steven ultimus, Cam Ghaffari and Tim crane. Blah, 1505 01:26:58,530 --> 01:27:01,500 blah, blah, blah, blah. Now they got a lot of money. They must 1506 01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:03,390 have a lot of money that they took it public. 1507 01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:08,370 John C Dvorak: That was just so they cash out. That money comes 1508 01:27:08,370 --> 01:27:09,060 from the government. 1509 01:27:09,390 --> 01:27:12,600 Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Well, how come we're never in these 1510 01:27:12,630 --> 01:27:15,480 these. These scams? Because 1511 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,670 John C Dvorak: we're not scammers. Oh, 1512 01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:24,330 Adam Curry: hello. You're right. You're right. You're right. Walk 1513 01:27:24,330 --> 01:27:27,720 Bo 40 partnership and open innovation strategists. We got 1514 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,320 to talk to that guy. Hey, walk D how do we get in on this 1515 01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:33,600 John C Dvorak: walk? Is that his name? Was it me? 1516 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,370 Unknown: Who walks the walk? Dogs lobby. 1517 01:27:40,110 --> 01:27:44,460 Adam Curry: It's all these dudes with crew cuts. Yeah. Yeah. 1518 01:27:44,490 --> 01:27:49,110 Okay. Well, fine. I mean, I wish them well. Too bad. It tipped 1519 01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:53,880 over. We think we don't we don't actually know. We don't actually 1520 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,380 know if it tiptoe but even 1521 01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:57,390 John C Dvorak: thought that it might tip over and there'd be 1522 01:27:57,390 --> 01:28:01,890 some mechanism to stand it back up. That's what gets me if it 1523 01:28:01,890 --> 01:28:05,970 tipped over which I get this a sense that it did. Yeah. They 1524 01:28:05,970 --> 01:28:08,430 couldn't stand it back up because they never thought that 1525 01:28:08,430 --> 01:28:11,430 it would ever tip over. Hello. 1526 01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:14,430 Adam Curry: Listen to this. So they have lunar access services. 1527 01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:20,940 One of them is rideshare. Let's see. Yeah, rideshare. Getting 1528 01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:23,550 the space should be easy and custom tailored to fit your 1529 01:28:23,550 --> 01:28:27,990 needs. Our lunar transfer orbit delivery services can 1530 01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:32,130 accommodate up to 1000 kilograms of payload and deliver customers 1531 01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:36,060 into a myriad of high energy orbits. We launched payloads for 1532 01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:38,760 deployment after launch vehicle separation, and from the 1533 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,420 steadfast platform of our landers in lunar orbit. Your 1534 01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:47,580 results may vary due to road and weather conditions. So they're 1535 01:28:47,580 --> 01:28:50,610 going to be a rideshare companies the Uber of space, I 1536 01:28:50,610 --> 01:28:51,120 get it. 1537 01:28:51,330 --> 01:28:53,850 John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, there's a moneymaker. Yeah. 1538 01:28:55,230 --> 01:28:59,490 Adam Curry: Somehow, you got to think that this is bullcrap. 1539 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,750 John C Dvorak: All right. Let's go to Ukraine. Oh, goody. I 1540 01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:11,790 spotted a new term that we have to keep an eye on okay. And this 1541 01:29:11,820 --> 01:29:16,980 this play Ukraine anniversary the term is? Well, you'll hear 1542 01:29:16,980 --> 01:29:21,870 it in here. I used the initials FSI Ukraine anniversary day, 1543 01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:25,020 Unknown: Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine enters the 1544 01:29:25,020 --> 01:29:27,990 whole circle. And on this anniversary of the start of the 1545 01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:31,020 war, it's worth stepping back and noting that neither Russia 1546 01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:34,830 nor Ukraine has made progress on its goals. Despite hundreds of 1547 01:29:34,830 --> 01:29:38,970 1000s of casualties on both sides. Russia has failed to 1548 01:29:38,970 --> 01:29:42,540 occupy all of Ukraine and Ukraine has failed to retake all 1549 01:29:42,540 --> 01:29:44,850 of the land occupied by Russian forces. 1550 01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:48,300 Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Never Russia never said there would 1551 01:29:48,330 --> 01:29:50,820 going to occupy the whole country. Tell 1552 01:29:50,820 --> 01:29:53,610 John C Dvorak: me about it. So let's play the I want to play 1553 01:29:53,610 --> 01:29:56,430 these two FSI clips. These are the two Ed This is Nick 1554 01:29:56,430 --> 01:29:59,130 Schifrin. The first one which is I think you've just heard that 1555 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,780 Yep. I played FSI but as Ukrainian Oh, hold 1556 01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:06,180 Adam Curry: on, is that something different? Oh, yeah, 1557 01:30:06,180 --> 01:30:06,420 this 1558 01:30:06,570 --> 01:30:08,310 John C Dvorak: this is from NPR. Okay, 1559 01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:10,350 Adam Curry: thank you got it. Before 1560 01:30:10,350 --> 01:30:12,420 Unknown: the full scale invasion, the 28 year old who 1561 01:30:12,420 --> 01:30:15,600 asked us to withhold his last name was a snowboard instructor 1562 01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:18,000 on a tour guide. Oh, 1563 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,540 Adam Curry: full scale invasion. Oh, so this is the new this is 1564 01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:23,100 the new new is like is 1565 01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:27,120 John C Dvorak: the new new. Hey, listen, Putin and FSI on PBS 1566 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,050 just to get it again. 1567 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,330 Adam Curry: Yes. Okay. Russia's 1568 01:30:30,330 --> 01:30:34,110 Unknown: full scale invasion of Ukraine enters its third year. 1569 01:30:34,140 --> 01:30:36,720 Adam Curry: Good catch. Good catch. So 1570 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,210 John C Dvorak: now this isn't just you. I've heard about five 1571 01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:44,700 of these. And they've decided to drop it. Now. Do you remember 1572 01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:47,250 when this started three years ago? 1573 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,920 Adam Curry: I certainly do. There was no full 1574 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,910 John C Dvorak: scale invasion or a bunch of under fueled tanks 1575 01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:56,280 that kind of came into the country. It stalled. And they 1576 01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:00,300 were just, you know, a full scale invasion by the Russian 1577 01:31:00,330 --> 01:31:04,620 army wouldn't be what we were seeing in Ukraine and the 1578 01:31:04,620 --> 01:31:07,860 Russians themselves just call it a military action, a police 1579 01:31:07,860 --> 01:31:09,540 action. They didn't want to work. 1580 01:31:09,570 --> 01:31:12,510 Adam Curry: militaries have special military operation. It's 1581 01:31:12,510 --> 01:31:15,240 all about the region. Yeah. So 1582 01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:19,530 John C Dvorak: that is not a full scale invasion. Yet PBS and 1583 01:31:19,530 --> 01:31:24,300 NPR among others, are now using this term, full scale invasion. 1584 01:31:24,330 --> 01:31:27,120 Adam Curry: I feel ripped off by these these great media 1585 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:28,200 organizations. 1586 01:31:30,570 --> 01:31:34,170 John C Dvorak: So you heard part one of the NPR full scale 1587 01:31:34,170 --> 01:31:36,420 invasion that's played Part Two Ukranian grain 1588 01:31:36,420 --> 01:31:39,360 Unknown: runs low on ammunition and weapons with resupplies from 1589 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,240 the United States and other allies more in doubt than ever. 1590 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:46,650 Russia is going on the offensive in Ukraine's east. Joining us to 1591 01:31:46,650 --> 01:31:49,470 discuss this as NPRs key correspondent Joanna kisses. 1592 01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:53,070 Hey, Joanna. Hey, Scott. So tell us how Ukrainians are observing 1593 01:31:53,070 --> 01:31:54,000 this anniversary today. 1594 01:31:54,570 --> 01:31:58,380 So Scott, it's a somber day Ukrainians are very proud that 1595 01:31:58,380 --> 01:32:01,230 their country is still defending itself against a much larger 1596 01:32:01,230 --> 01:32:04,500 enemy with a much larger arsenal. But there is just a 1597 01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:08,220 sense of exhaustion and loss. And you could really sense that 1598 01:32:08,220 --> 01:32:11,700 at a rally in central key today where many were demonstrating to 1599 01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:15,240 highlight the cases of 1000s of Ukrainian prisoners of war. 1600 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,350 Here's Anton cut offs of he's a 49 year old soldier who was in a 1601 01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:22,710 cave on a short break from the frontlines to see his elderly 1602 01:32:22,710 --> 01:32:23,790 Mom, I'm 1603 01:32:23,790 --> 01:32:27,090 not even sure to who this is more difficult to the civilians 1604 01:32:27,090 --> 01:32:31,710 or to the soldiers. Like my mom, for example, she's 80 years old, 1605 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:36,300 but we are stronger than Russians. We love freedom too 1606 01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:41,670 much. We love it more than they love war. So we will win. 1607 01:32:42,599 --> 01:32:46,739 Adam Curry: We love freedom more than they love war. Yeah, oh, 1608 01:32:46,739 --> 01:32:47,639 there's a slogan. 1609 01:32:48,150 --> 01:32:51,210 John C Dvorak: I love that one cannot so this this was no good 1610 01:32:51,210 --> 01:32:55,860 this report. So we have to go back to PBS. And let's get to 1611 01:32:55,860 --> 01:32:59,460 Victoria Nuland so he really get to beat us up at the highest 1612 01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:00,630 level possible. She 1613 01:33:00,630 --> 01:33:07,410 Adam Curry: She was everywhere she was she was with what's her 1614 01:33:07,410 --> 01:33:14,640 face with Christian aman, aman poor. She was she was blanketing 1615 01:33:14,670 --> 01:33:18,480 and it's it's great to have her back on the airwaves. Because 1616 01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:22,950 once again, it reminds us what's evil and sin does to your 1617 01:33:22,980 --> 01:33:25,680 overall look. She is 1618 01:33:26,190 --> 01:33:29,850 Unknown: he looks terrible. The Biden administration today 1619 01:33:29,850 --> 01:33:33,270 unveiled a new set of sanctions against Russia to punish it 1620 01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:36,570 further for the full scale invasion of Ukraine that began 1621 01:33:36,570 --> 01:33:38,040 two years ago tomorrow. 1622 01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:41,340 The sanctions are also meant to target Russia for the death of 1623 01:33:41,340 --> 01:33:45,000 anti corruption activist and politician Alexei Navalny. He 1624 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,420 died in an Arctic prison one week ago from a cause still 1625 01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:52,050 unknown. Earlier today I spoke with the US Undersecretary of 1626 01:33:52,050 --> 01:33:55,350 State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland, about the state 1627 01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:58,980 of the war two years on Victoria Nuland Welcome back to the News 1628 01:33:58,980 --> 01:34:02,280 Hour. As the world prepares to mark the second anniversary of 1629 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,670 Putin's Ukraine invasion, Ukraine's counter offensive has 1630 01:34:05,670 --> 01:34:09,360 stalled. Ukraine lost a brutal month long battle for up 1631 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:13,140 Deepika. Additional funding, as you well know, is stuck in the 1632 01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:17,040 GOP led house. And Russia is showing no signs of quitting. 1633 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,500 What is the outlook for Ukraine right now? 1634 01:34:19,530 --> 01:34:23,370 Well, Jeff, you're not wrong, that these are tough days for 1635 01:34:23,370 --> 01:34:27,510 Ukraine. And as you said, they've had to come out of FDA 1636 01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:30,120 of coal. When I was out there a couple of weeks ago, there were 1637 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,140 soldiers on the front line, with only 20 bullets a day to defend 1638 01:34:34,140 --> 01:34:38,370 themselves. And this is why the administration is pushing so 1639 01:34:38,370 --> 01:34:42,300 hard for this additional $60 billion to support Ukraine. 1640 01:34:42,900 --> 01:34:47,970 Adam Curry: Yeah, so two things. This 2020 shells a day is a meme 1641 01:34:47,970 --> 01:34:50,880 she's repeated everywhere and what bull 1642 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,640 John C Dvorak: crap is that I'm sitting in a foxhole the 1643 01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:58,620 shooting at me. I got a bunch of bucket full of bullets I shoot 1644 01:34:58,620 --> 01:35:01,920 to 20 off Am I even you got to stop. This is your limit. 1645 01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:06,420 Adam Curry: That you're kidding me know that because because of 1646 01:35:06,420 --> 01:35:11,280 Trump because Trump told the GOP, not to pass the money, and 1647 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,760 therefore, these poor Ukrainians are sitting in their trenches, 1648 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,640 because it's just like World War One. It's a war of attrition. 1649 01:35:17,970 --> 01:35:21,540 And they only have 20 shells a day. Now, when she says shells 1650 01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:25,800 is a little unclear if they have that's 20 shells like these big 1651 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,830 the big ones is shooting out of the cannons. Or if that's, you 1652 01:35:28,830 --> 01:35:28,980 know, 1653 01:35:29,730 --> 01:35:30,660 John C Dvorak: when he bullets. 1654 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,320 Adam Curry: Let me listen to it. And that's it. That is important 1655 01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:34,710 battle 1656 01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:37,410 Unknown: for up deep cook in the GOP. And I didn't like that she 1657 01:35:37,410 --> 01:35:37,680 said, 1658 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,240 Adam Curry: You're not wrong girl are 1659 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,950 Unknown: not wrong, that these are tough days for Ukraine. And 1660 01:35:43,950 --> 01:35:47,310 as you said, they've had to come out of FDA of ko when I was out 1661 01:35:47,310 --> 01:35:49,830 there a couple of weeks ago, there were soldiers on the front 1662 01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:52,290 line with only 20 bullets. Okay, 1663 01:35:52,290 --> 01:35:54,690 Adam Curry: she says bullets in a report I have she said shell. 1664 01:35:54,690 --> 01:35:58,230 So it's bullets, maybe it's shells. But she said bullets or 1665 01:35:58,230 --> 01:35:59,250 bullets as you said 1666 01:35:59,250 --> 01:36:02,310 John C Dvorak: bullets. Going in a foxhole with a bucket full of 1667 01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:04,950 bullets and you can only shoot 20 of them if they come at ya 1668 01:36:05,010 --> 01:36:08,070 too bad. Don't use any more of those bullets because you only 1669 01:36:08,070 --> 01:36:09,540 had 20 You got a bayonet, 1670 01:36:09,570 --> 01:36:10,890 Adam Curry: that's what the bayonet is for. 1671 01:36:13,980 --> 01:36:17,550 John C Dvorak: Okay, I'm onward with with her with her. With her 1672 01:36:17,850 --> 01:36:18,540 crap 1673 01:36:18,660 --> 01:36:21,300 Unknown: with this money, we actually think that they can 1674 01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:25,800 make some serious gains in 2024, particularly by enhancing some 1675 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,100 of the asymmetric techniques that they have been using 1676 01:36:29,460 --> 01:36:30,420 asymmetric 1677 01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:34,830 Adam Curry: technique, rocks. What is an asymmetric technique 1678 01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:36,720 in warfare? Well, 1679 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,380 John C Dvorak: they did. What they showed is a fighter jets 1680 01:36:40,410 --> 01:36:43,860 little bitty drones would like it was like a hand gun. 1681 01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:47,160 Adam Curry: taped to the front. Yeah, that's the that's the 1682 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,310 Canadians a goon or the UK a million drones, a million tiny 1683 01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:50,730 drones, 1684 01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:53,040 John C Dvorak: these drones and they got low hand gun, you can 1685 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,130 see a little gun sitting down there. And good flies around and 1686 01:36:56,130 --> 01:36:59,460 shoots just randomly every time it shoots. It backs up about 1687 01:36:59,460 --> 01:37:03,270 five feet because of the Yeah, this is asymmetric. Asymmetric. 1688 01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:03,480 Got 1689 01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:05,850 Unknown: it. But we need to support them, just as the 1690 01:37:05,850 --> 01:37:09,180 Europeans have just given them an additional $54 billion. 1691 01:37:10,110 --> 01:37:14,070 Well, so far, House Speaker Mike Johnson has a need for us to 1692 01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:19,080 bring up a Senate passed package or at least for a quick vote. Is 1693 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,510 there a way for the administration to get that much 1694 01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:25,260 needed aid to Ukraine absent action from Congress? Jeff, 1695 01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:29,310 I would just start by reminding that this bill passed 1696 01:37:29,310 --> 01:37:34,650 overwhelmingly in the Senate 70 senators supported it. And they 1697 01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:37,980 supported it because they understand that as much as this 1698 01:37:37,980 --> 01:37:42,210 is about Ukraine's ability to survive as a democratic state, 1699 01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,800 it is also about the larger principles of a free and open 1700 01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,220 international order that benefits the United States. And 1701 01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:54,180 that if we don't stand with Ukraine is Putin wins here, then 1702 01:37:54,180 --> 01:37:58,470 dictators and tyrants all over the world will take note, and 1703 01:37:58,470 --> 01:38:04,020 we'll get hungry with their own territorial aspirations. So we 1704 01:38:04,020 --> 01:38:06,930 need to pass this money and the American people broadly 1705 01:38:06,930 --> 01:38:11,400 understand that. So we are hopeful that they will tell 1706 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:15,690 their members when they're home during this recess, how much 1707 01:38:15,690 --> 01:38:19,860 they support this, this money and we already confident. 1708 01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:24,240 Adam Curry: Okay, so a couple things. One, if we support the 1709 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,390 money, too, they didn't go home on their recess, they all went 1710 01:38:27,390 --> 01:38:31,200 to Ukraine. Everybody was in Ukraine, Queen Ursula was in 1711 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,140 Ukraine, Chuck Schumer is in Ukraine, everyone is hanging out 1712 01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:38,760 Ukraine, bowing to Zelinsky. And here's the question, if it's so 1713 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,690 known that they only have 20 bullets a day, why hasn't Putin 1714 01:38:42,690 --> 01:38:47,310 gone full roughshod and just ran right over everybody? If they if 1715 01:38:47,310 --> 01:38:51,240 they're out of ammo? That it's it's the end of the exercise 1716 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:56,460 here. If it really was a FSI, don't you think that it would 1717 01:38:56,460 --> 01:38:59,970 have ended by now or is Putin's mission he's in me, and we're 1718 01:38:59,970 --> 01:39:02,250 being told different than we're being told. 1719 01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:04,320 John C Dvorak: The other thing is throughout this interview, 1720 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,590 and this is, how many clips are there? Five times three? We're 1721 01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:11,790 at three now. We're on number three. Throughout this 1722 01:39:11,790 --> 01:39:15,420 interview, and all the other newless Have you heard not one 1723 01:39:15,660 --> 01:39:20,520 reporter even brought up or mentioned negotiations to end 1724 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,210 this idiotic war that's costing billions and billions and 10s of 1725 01:39:24,210 --> 01:39:26,730 billions of dollars? Well, would 1726 01:39:26,730 --> 01:39:28,170 Adam Curry: you want to be out of a job? 1727 01:39:29,370 --> 01:39:32,190 Unknown: Here we go. President Biden today announced more than 1728 01:39:32,190 --> 01:39:36,600 500 sanctions on Russia. This is the largest tranche since the 1729 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,590 conflict started. Is this a tacit admission that the 1730 01:39:40,590 --> 01:39:43,980 previous sanctions haven't worked? What with Russia's 1731 01:39:43,980 --> 01:39:46,560 military industrial complex up and running and 1732 01:39:46,590 --> 01:39:49,710 Adam Curry: I love I hear this more often now, too. There's a 1733 01:39:49,710 --> 01:39:53,640 military industrial complex, but it's only Russia. We don't have 1734 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:53,940 one 1735 01:39:54,090 --> 01:39:57,690 Unknown: seemingly drawing on limitless supplies and support 1736 01:39:57,870 --> 01:39:59,700 from its authoritarian allies. 1737 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:02,730 Well, let me start with your premise, Jeff that previous 1738 01:40:02,730 --> 01:40:06,540 sanctions haven't worked, Russia has become a pariah state around 1739 01:40:06,540 --> 01:40:09,090 the world thrown out of the international banking system. 1740 01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:13,260 And now so desperate for weapons that it has to go to countries 1741 01:40:13,260 --> 01:40:18,060 like Iran and North Korea, Korea to get them, but those Russians 1742 01:40:18,060 --> 01:40:19,830 are wily, and they have over the last 1743 01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:24,090 Adam Curry: while they're wildly love that one Russian those 1744 01:40:24,090 --> 01:40:26,400 Russians are wildly they're wildly E Coyote 1745 01:40:26,610 --> 01:40:29,640 Unknown: to get them. But those Russians are wildly and they 1746 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:33,900 have over the last six months found ways to evade sanctions at 1747 01:40:33,900 --> 01:40:37,770 but we've also got smarter about how to hurt them then that's why 1748 01:40:38,190 --> 01:40:43,080 this package is so massive it looks at punishing sanctions 1749 01:40:43,110 --> 01:40:48,030 evaders, it looks at closing down further Russia's access to 1750 01:40:48,030 --> 01:40:54,150 credit and finance. It also punishes for the death of the 1751 01:40:54,150 --> 01:40:59,070 leading opposition figure Nirvani at the hands of Putin in 1752 01:40:59,070 --> 01:41:03,180 his present guards and it sanctions of those involved in 1753 01:41:03,180 --> 01:41:07,230 the abduction of Ukrainian children into Russia. So it is a 1754 01:41:07,230 --> 01:41:11,160 massive package. And partly it's because we've got to staunch 1755 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:12,060 this evasion. 1756 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,210 Adam Curry: Can I just interject your your clip sequence here 1757 01:41:15,210 --> 01:41:15,690 with one 1758 01:41:15,690 --> 01:41:17,490 John C Dvorak: no you can't right now because you have to 1759 01:41:17,490 --> 01:41:19,740 back it up and listen to what she said at the very end. 1760 01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:22,440 Adam Curry: I heard what about the children? I heard about the 1761 01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:23,580 children? No, no, no. 1762 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:25,770 John C Dvorak: There's this phrase she uses that. 1763 01:41:26,580 --> 01:41:29,970 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Oh, can I do only to play the last few 1764 01:41:29,970 --> 01:41:31,980 seconds of that clip? Yeah. 1765 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,130 Unknown: Those involved in the abduction of Ukrainian children 1766 01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:40,110 into Russia so it is a massive package and partly it's because 1767 01:41:40,110 --> 01:41:43,080 we've got to staunch this evasion. staunch 1768 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,270 Adam Curry: this evasion. Start 1769 01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:48,660 John C Dvorak: start a staunch this invasion 1770 01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:50,460 Adam Curry: I think she said evasion. She didn't say 1771 01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:51,240 injection didn't 1772 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,160 John C Dvorak: say evasive but the word I'm looking for PLAY 1773 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,220 CLIP floor for because it's only this these this term it 1774 01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:59,700 Unknown: is a massive package. And partly it's because we've 1775 01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:04,800 got to staunch this evasion. And because we have far more targets 1776 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,640 now as we understand better how to staunch the Russian 1777 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,360 industrial complex, staunch look 1778 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:20,100 John C Dvorak: it up scope right. staunch and tell me what 1779 01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:21,630 the hell she's talking about 1780 01:42:21,630 --> 01:42:26,280 Adam Curry: firm and dependable, especially in loyalty stopped 1781 01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:32,610 the flow of a liquid to staunch to stop the flow. That's what 1782 01:42:32,610 --> 01:42:36,570 I'm getting right off the hand right of hands. Stop staunch to 1783 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,870 check or stop the flowing of stop. We're checking its course 1784 01:42:40,050 --> 01:42:45,120 to make so stop to stop the flow to staunch to staunch to stop 1785 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,100 the flow. Doesn't sound like defeat. 1786 01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:51,180 John C Dvorak: And I just found it peculiar. 1787 01:42:51,210 --> 01:42:55,440 Adam Curry: No, it's ridiculous. Can I play your clip? Yeah, just 1788 01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:00,150 about this sanctions. The great sanctions that we've placed on 1789 01:43:00,150 --> 01:43:00,600 Russia, 1790 01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:03,660 Unknown: oil tankers like these are still bringing Russian oil 1791 01:43:03,690 --> 01:43:09,030 into the EU, and it earned the Kremlin 1.1 billion euros last 1792 01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:13,860 year. According to a new report by the NGO Global Witness, a 1793 01:43:13,860 --> 01:43:17,220 legal loophole is allowing Russia to sell its oil in the 1794 01:43:17,220 --> 01:43:21,120 EU. Despite the sanctions against imports, 1795 01:43:21,180 --> 01:43:23,700 countries which haven't imposed sanctions on Russian oil are 1796 01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:26,490 able to import millions of barrels of Russian crude oil. 1797 01:43:26,490 --> 01:43:29,130 They refined them in those countries and at the point that 1798 01:43:29,130 --> 01:43:32,370 they become a refined product like fuel or diesel is no longer 1799 01:43:32,370 --> 01:43:35,520 considered Russian. And so this fuel is freely imported into the 1800 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,840 European Union. They 1801 01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,930 followed oil tanker movements and delved into publicly 1802 01:43:39,930 --> 01:43:43,740 available Russian tax revenue information in their research. 1803 01:43:44,130 --> 01:43:48,060 The oil is mainly coming through India and Turkey, but also 1804 01:43:48,060 --> 01:43:52,530 Bulgaria, which is actually inside the EU. When the EU 1805 01:43:52,530 --> 01:43:55,500 brought in the sanctions on refined petroleum products in 1806 01:43:55,500 --> 01:44:01,200 February 2023. They did so with limited exceptions. One of those 1807 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,680 exceptions being to allow Bulgaria to continue to import 1808 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:09,450 refined oil in order to prevent a major economic hit to the EU's 1809 01:44:09,450 --> 01:44:11,760 poorest nation. So 1810 01:44:11,790 --> 01:44:16,920 Adam Curry: bull crap. Oh crap. They don't really mean it. They 1811 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:17,910 just want money. 1812 01:44:19,470 --> 01:44:21,360 John C Dvorak: No, what's interesting is that is the 1813 01:44:21,420 --> 01:44:26,130 figure that they used. This oil coming out of Russia syrup, 1814 01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:33,480 surreptitiously brought them 1.4 billion. Were trying to ship 60 1815 01:44:33,480 --> 01:44:37,740 billion to Ukraine just so they can have more than 10 bullets 1816 01:44:38,220 --> 01:44:39,870 Adam Curry: 20 It's 2020 1817 01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:40,590 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, 1818 01:44:40,620 --> 01:44:43,110 Adam Curry: what am I think and I hope your Newland clip has the 1819 01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:50,400 money shot does it five? Yes. Is the money shot otherwise I got 1820 01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:51,840 the money shot. No, 1821 01:44:51,870 --> 01:44:54,270 John C Dvorak: I didn't. Mind doesn't have them. I don't know 1822 01:44:54,270 --> 01:44:56,730 if it does or not. I know what you're looking for. But once you 1823 01:44:56,730 --> 01:44:58,680 play this, then you play your money shot. Okay. 1824 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,580 Unknown: And this is up quite worrying is that Russia has been 1825 01:45:02,580 --> 01:45:06,030 willing to intensify its economic and security 1826 01:45:06,030 --> 01:45:10,230 relationship with China, in fact, becoming increasingly 1827 01:45:10,230 --> 01:45:15,630 dependent on China. And that is how it is fueling its war 1828 01:45:15,630 --> 01:45:19,560 machine. It's also been willing to put the vast majority of its 1829 01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:25,680 own economic stimulus into the war effort. So it is starving 1830 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:30,630 Russia and Russians of investment in education in their 1831 01:45:30,630 --> 01:45:35,220 own future all in service of Putin's imperial ambitions. So 1832 01:45:36,270 --> 01:45:37,620 he is adjust as well. 1833 01:45:37,980 --> 01:45:40,980 As we wrap up our conversation, you said you're confident that 1834 01:45:40,980 --> 01:45:45,060 the aid package will ultimately pass Congress. There is this 1835 01:45:45,060 --> 01:45:48,180 question, though, of what good would additionally What did 1836 01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:50,400 Adam Curry: he just say? He just said on the pass, ultimately, 1837 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:51,900 what do is adjust as 1838 01:45:51,900 --> 01:45:54,690 Unknown: well, as we wrap up our conversation, you said you're 1839 01:45:54,690 --> 01:45:59,310 confident that she will ultimately pass Congress? There 1840 01:45:59,310 --> 01:46:02,910 is this question, though, of what good would additional aid 1841 01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:06,240 do especially among those who view this as a war of attrition 1842 01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,840 and point to the slow progress of Ukraine's counter offensive? 1843 01:46:10,170 --> 01:46:14,130 If the US continues to provide Ukraine the same sorts of 1844 01:46:14,130 --> 01:46:17,250 weapons? Why wouldn't that lead to a further stalemate, 1845 01:46:18,210 --> 01:46:23,370 first of all, this aid is going to allow Ukraine to do four 1846 01:46:23,370 --> 01:46:26,850 things, it's going to allow them to continue to fight, it's going 1847 01:46:26,850 --> 01:46:30,330 to allow them to build a highly deterrent military of the 1848 01:46:30,330 --> 01:46:33,990 future, so that they will increasingly be able to stand on 1849 01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:36,960 their own feet in security terms, it's going to help them 1850 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,260 recover and get more of their own people home and rebuild 1851 01:46:40,260 --> 01:46:46,380 their tax base. So that we have, there's less economic support 1852 01:46:46,380 --> 01:46:49,980 that they need from the rest of the world. And it's also going 1853 01:46:49,980 --> 01:46:54,060 to help them reform and become a more European democratic 1854 01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:58,800 country. With this money on the battlefield. First and foremost, 1855 01:46:58,830 --> 01:47:03,450 it will ensure Ukraine can hold the line. But as I said, they're 1856 01:47:03,450 --> 01:47:07,470 getting increasingly proficient at asymmetric weapons. And I 1857 01:47:07,470 --> 01:47:11,160 expect, as I said, in Kyiv, a couple of weeks ago, when I was 1858 01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:15,180 there, that if we can provide this support, Putin is going to 1859 01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:19,620 get some very nasty surprises on the battlefield in 2024. 1860 01:47:20,340 --> 01:47:21,300 Bullshit. 1861 01:47:21,450 --> 01:47:25,440 Adam Curry: Okay. So yes, big bull crap, because when she was 1862 01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:30,570 talking to globalist Christiane Amanpour, she had a whole 1863 01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:34,140 different story about this money. No one mentioned that. 1864 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,200 That's what we needed. She needed bullets. Now we're gonna 1865 01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:40,170 give him money so they can bring people back home. So they can, 1866 01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:45,270 you know, start their tax base. And now No, no, no, no. She 1867 01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:47,850 said, a couple of quiet things out loud in this interview, 1868 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:48,480 what's 1869 01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:51,720 Unknown: your response to him and others here telling us? You 1870 01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,170 know, America talks a good game. But right now we're stalled. And 1871 01:47:55,170 --> 01:47:59,190 it needs to remember it is the father, mother of democracy and 1872 01:47:59,190 --> 01:48:00,570 freedom around the world. Oh, 1873 01:48:00,570 --> 01:48:02,580 yeah. Well, thank you, Christian. That's 1874 01:48:02,580 --> 01:48:06,840 the point that President Biden is making as well. And that 70 1875 01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:11,460 senators made just last week in passing overwhelmingly, the 1876 01:48:11,460 --> 01:48:14,520 administration supplemental request, including 60 billion 1877 01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:18,060 for Ukraine. So now the question is in the House of 1878 01:48:18,060 --> 01:48:22,410 Representatives, and support for Ukraine across the United States 1879 01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:26,610 is still strong. So we hope that representatives will reflect 1880 01:48:26,610 --> 01:48:30,150 that in the way they vote. And it's strong, not just because 1881 01:48:30,150 --> 01:48:34,980 people understand how brave and resilient Ukraine has been. But 1882 01:48:34,980 --> 01:48:39,120 that this is not just about Ukraine. If we don't stop 1883 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:43,080 putting in Ukraine, he will keep going. And autocrats and tyrants 1884 01:48:43,110 --> 01:48:46,410 all around the world will take comfort and think that they too 1885 01:48:46,410 --> 01:48:48,570 can chunk off a piece of their neighbor. 1886 01:48:48,750 --> 01:48:51,120 Adam Curry: So I think she read the secret or something's like 1887 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,880 if I just keep saying that people really are all for it, 1888 01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:57,240 then it'll happen. And here is the money shot. Do you 1889 01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:01,200 Unknown: have any actual belief or reason to believe that 1890 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,730 eventually this bill will be paid? And if not, how are you 1891 01:49:05,730 --> 01:49:08,310 going to make sure Ukraine gets vital weapons? And 1892 01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:11,340 Adam Curry: by the way, I love that that I'm on tour says that 1893 01:49:11,340 --> 01:49:15,810 this bill will get paid. What did they send us an invoice is 1894 01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:20,130 are we down to that now? Or just just a Venmo? A QR code? What 1895 01:49:20,130 --> 01:49:23,670 did they do? Instead of this bill will be passed. She says 1896 01:49:23,670 --> 01:49:25,800 this bill should be paid, this bill 1897 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,160 Unknown: will be paid? And if not, how are you going to make 1898 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,550 sure you can get vital weapons and ammunition? Chris 1899 01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:36,390 John, I have strong confidence that when the House comes back 1900 01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,150 after they've been out in their districts, hearing from the 1901 01:49:39,150 --> 01:49:43,350 American people, after they have heard from Ukraine, they have 1902 01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:48,120 heard from Europe, which by the way, just passed 54 billion in 1903 01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:52,620 additional aid itself over 10 years that we will do what we 1904 01:49:52,620 --> 01:49:56,130 have always done which is defend democracy and freedom around the 1905 01:49:56,130 --> 01:50:01,230 world. Not just for victims of tyrants like Putin, but in our 1906 01:50:01,260 --> 01:50:05,340 own interest in serving a free and open international order, 1907 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:09,450 that's what we need to do. We've done it before. And by the way, 1908 01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:13,440 we have to remember that the bulk of this money is going 1909 01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:17,940 right back into the US economy to make those weapons, including 1910 01:50:17,940 --> 01:50:21,180 good paying jobs in some 40 states across the United States. 1911 01:50:21,210 --> 01:50:21,810 And there 1912 01:50:21,810 --> 01:50:26,940 Adam Curry: it is, oops. So this, so she's either lying 1913 01:50:26,940 --> 01:50:30,420 about helping the Ukrainians rebuild, where their tax base, 1914 01:50:30,420 --> 01:50:33,510 etc, or she's lying about going straight into the military 1915 01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:36,930 industrial complex, which I believe is what it's doing. And 1916 01:50:36,930 --> 01:50:39,810 I think at this point, that's the only thing keeping our 1917 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:49,320 economy afloat that an AI chips Well, AI chips, but and things 1918 01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:52,950 are about to get interesting, because the biggest soy boy 1919 01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:58,170 politician is it looks like it's definitely happening. Margarita, 1920 01:50:58,350 --> 01:51:03,780 former, your buddy, Dutch Prime Minister, who I've met who is a 1921 01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:11,310 hunk of soy, he is I mean, he ran HR at Unilever. And then all 1922 01:51:11,310 --> 01:51:15,180 of a sudden he was Prime Minister. He's, he's weak, he's 1923 01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:19,680 wimpy. He's a total Yes, man. But he talks a big game 1924 01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:23,310 Unknown: for over a decade, he's been a mainstay in European 1925 01:51:23,310 --> 01:51:27,630 politics. And now Mark routers in pole position to take another 1926 01:51:27,630 --> 01:51:31,470 leadership role crucial for the continent. The outgoing Dutch 1927 01:51:31,470 --> 01:51:34,680 Prime Minister has received a number of endorsements to lead 1928 01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:38,700 the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO. On 1929 01:51:38,700 --> 01:51:42,180 Thursday, the White House back to Ruta for the job, as did the 1930 01:51:42,180 --> 01:51:45,360 UK Foreign Office, and a spokesperson for German 1931 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:49,800 Chancellor Olaf Schultz. Other messages of support came during 1932 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,190 the Munich Security Conference last weekend. And 1933 01:51:53,190 --> 01:51:56,340 Adam Curry: of course, we Margaret, we were partially 1934 01:51:56,340 --> 01:51:59,940 nostalgic about the past and talking a little bit about the 1935 01:51:59,940 --> 01:52:03,450 future. And she will know he's in the running to become NATO 1936 01:52:03,450 --> 01:52:07,380 Secretary General and I personally wish him the best of 1937 01:52:07,380 --> 01:52:12,930 luck. I'm very excited by him becoming NATO, Secretary General 1938 01:52:12,930 --> 01:52:17,310 because he has the perfect Dutch accent for me to make fun of 1939 01:52:17,310 --> 01:52:19,890 it's coming up in that endeavor. 1940 01:52:20,670 --> 01:52:24,060 Unknown: The next NATO Secretary General will succeed Jens 1941 01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:27,870 Stoltenberg in October, they'll have the challenge of sustaining 1942 01:52:27,870 --> 01:52:31,440 the alliances support for Ukraine's costly defense against 1943 01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:35,220 Russia. And depending on the outcome of the US presidential 1944 01:52:35,220 --> 01:52:39,120 election, they may have to work closely with Donald Trump, an 1945 01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:43,860 outspoken NATO critic in Munich router said Europe should focus 1946 01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:47,610 more on Ukraine than on the presidential front runner. And 1947 01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:50,790 be sure to because you also mentioned the rest of us. Stop 1948 01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:55,080 moaning and whining and nagging about Trump and we have to work 1949 01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:56,790 with whoever is on the dance floor. I 1950 01:52:56,790 --> 01:53:00,210 Adam Curry: love this guy. We have to work with you every show 1951 01:53:00,210 --> 01:53:05,040 on the dance floor. Stop moaning and whining and griping about 1952 01:53:05,070 --> 01:53:10,230 it. And by the way, I My name is Margarita. The last time the 1953 01:53:10,230 --> 01:53:14,580 ditch man was here was JB EOBD hopes heifer. And he was really 1954 01:53:14,580 --> 01:53:19,680 great too. So no worries, I take care of it. And I'm your HR guy 1955 01:53:19,710 --> 01:53:24,390 here at Dance with me. The answer would be Trumpy. This guy 1956 01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:27,180 is he'll be fun. He would almost be guys that is 1957 01:53:27,180 --> 01:53:28,650 John C Dvorak: great. Because I love that voice. 1958 01:53:31,170 --> 01:53:33,120 Adam Curry: I got to play that again. I just love the end 1959 01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,350 there. That is so good. What 1960 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,670 Unknown: Europe should focus more on the presidential front 1961 01:53:38,670 --> 01:53:39,690 runner. And 1962 01:53:39,690 --> 01:53:42,900 be sure to because you also mentioned the rest of us. Stop 1963 01:53:43,050 --> 01:53:47,130 moaning and whining and nagging about Trump and we have to work 1964 01:53:47,130 --> 01:53:49,260 with whoever is on the dance floor. Whoever 1965 01:53:49,260 --> 01:53:51,360 Adam Curry: is on the dance floor. I dance with him to me. 1966 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,030 Come on, man. I dance with you. Let's dance. Let's dance. Want 1967 01:53:54,030 --> 01:53:58,410 to do a little conga line. Hey, Trent. Let's do it. I can't 1968 01:53:58,410 --> 01:54:05,430 wait. I can't wait. I vote yes. I vote yes. Bring him in. Oh 1969 01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:09,900 man. He is such a douche. And they are the outgoing I mean, 1970 01:54:09,930 --> 01:54:14,160 the guy got kicked out. Yeah, exactly. This is all that all 1971 01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,310 these European countries all they're all just waiting to get 1972 01:54:17,310 --> 01:54:21,180 the big job in Brussels. That's all they really want. Just want 1973 01:54:21,180 --> 01:54:24,390 that job in Brussels. As long as I can get that then I'll be 1974 01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:25,080 good. Do 1975 01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:29,400 John C Dvorak: you know Queen Ursula has never won an actual 1976 01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:33,510 election for any public office in Jura Germany ever 1977 01:54:33,540 --> 01:54:35,700 Adam Curry: while she was the minister of defense and got 1978 01:54:35,700 --> 01:54:39,210 kicked out that's why she was then appointed. She didn't even 1979 01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:40,800 run she's running now. 1980 01:54:40,830 --> 01:54:43,020 John C Dvorak: She is so annoying that no one will vote 1981 01:54:43,020 --> 01:54:46,380 for her. Yeah, I know but she's fine. You can pick her and put 1982 01:54:46,380 --> 01:54:51,060 her in some now she's Queen of the you know the EU you not by 1983 01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:52,800 anyone's wanting her. 1984 01:54:52,830 --> 01:54:54,630 Adam Curry: Did we play that clip on the lash? I don't think 1985 01:54:54,630 --> 01:55:01,440 I had a clip. Hold on a second. Ursula on Yes, here it is. This 1986 01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:02,490 is a little clip of her 1987 01:55:02,580 --> 01:55:06,030 Unknown: history maker and a trailblazer, personal of 1988 01:55:06,030 --> 01:55:08,940 underlying became the first woman president of the European 1989 01:55:08,940 --> 01:55:10,770 Commission in 2019. 1990 01:55:11,070 --> 01:55:16,380 The trust you placed in me is confidence you placed in Europe. 1991 01:55:16,650 --> 01:55:20,640 Her selection came as a surprise to many, not a former prime 1992 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,970 minister, like many of her predecessors, but a struggling 1993 01:55:23,970 --> 01:55:27,480 defense minister in the German government of Angular Merkel. 1994 01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:32,220 Fast forward to 2022. And the Forbes list cause von der Leyen, 1995 01:55:32,370 --> 01:55:40,560 the most powerful woman in the world. And again in 2023, I've 1996 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,740 already so what got her there, Commission proposed the large 1997 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:47,820 most ambitious climate laws, spearheaded the EU's, successful 1998 01:55:47,820 --> 01:55:50,760 COVID vaccine procurement program. Yeah, 1999 01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:53,040 Adam Curry: with with text messages we're not allowed to 2000 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,410 see. Right, he supported 2001 01:55:55,410 --> 01:55:58,890 Unknown: Ukraine and talked tough against China. Those 2002 01:55:58,890 --> 01:56:01,830 successes haven't won over all of the members of the European 2003 01:56:01,830 --> 01:56:04,890 Parliament, though, and will have a chance to block her 2004 01:56:04,890 --> 01:56:07,140 second term. So 2005 01:56:07,860 --> 01:56:10,800 Adam Curry: she's running now and, you know, I would not bet 2006 01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,980 against her being reelected. I would not bet against that. 2007 01:56:14,310 --> 01:56:16,830 John C Dvorak: Because they're not actually being elected by a 2008 01:56:16,830 --> 01:56:18,090 democratic body. Well, 2009 01:56:18,090 --> 01:56:21,510 Adam Curry: hello. No, it's but it's by the EU Starfleet Command 2010 01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:21,720 which 2011 01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:22,290 John C Dvorak: bags that? 2012 01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,890 Adam Curry: Yes. Is the Starfleet appointed. Yes, 2013 01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,430 Starfleet Command for all practical purposes. May I shift 2014 01:56:29,490 --> 01:56:33,210 for a second here to something else, just to dance around and 2015 01:56:33,210 --> 01:56:35,610 pat myself on the back trying not to break my arm or 2016 01:56:35,610 --> 01:56:39,210 Unknown: rude awakening for 10s of 1000s of AT and T customers. 2017 01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:43,380 I woke up this morning turned on my phone and no internet checked 2018 01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:46,920 my phone. It's like what's going on? I don't even see an SOS. 2019 01:56:47,190 --> 01:56:50,910 Now. I can't even use my GPS, my music call my wife Taylor. I'm 2020 01:56:50,910 --> 01:56:51,540 going to be 2021 01:56:51,570 --> 01:56:56,070 from Chicago to Dallas, Boston to Los Angeles. More than 74,000 2022 01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:58,530 users reported widespread problems. 2023 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:02,100 So on a personal level, it was it was definitely confusing and 2024 01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:03,990 uncomfortable. But it wasn't the end of the world 2025 01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:07,590 late today. 18 t apologized to customers and said service had 2026 01:57:07,590 --> 01:57:10,800 been fully restored. Nearly three quarters of adults live in 2027 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,040 households without a landline so losing cell service in a 2028 01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,980 disaster can cripple communications. That was the 2029 01:57:16,980 --> 01:57:20,760 case in the Maui wildfires. But today's outage inundated 2030 01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,880 emergency call centers with people dialing them up to test 2031 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:27,390 their phones. Massachusetts State Police posting that many 2032 01:57:27,390 --> 01:57:31,290 911 centers were flooded with calls. And in San Francisco, 2033 01:57:31,350 --> 01:57:31,830 please 2034 01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:37,290 don't call 911 to verify if your phone works. If you don't have 2035 01:57:37,290 --> 01:57:39,390 an emergency stupid The FBI is 2036 01:57:39,390 --> 01:57:43,740 in contact with 18 T and the FCC is actively investigating. The 2037 01:57:43,740 --> 01:57:46,740 National Security Council says there's no reason to think that 2038 01:57:46,740 --> 01:57:49,830 this was a cybersecurity incident. Does this incident 2039 01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:51,900 worry you about the future? I 2040 01:57:51,930 --> 01:57:56,610 always worry about our dependency on technology. I 2041 01:57:56,610 --> 01:58:00,930 think it's also a good wake up call. And just a reminder that 2042 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:05,850 we can't depend 100% all the time on the technology that we 2043 01:58:05,850 --> 01:58:07,140 depend on 100 2044 01:58:09,570 --> 01:58:13,470 A total last resort experts say you can always go in person to 2045 01:58:13,470 --> 01:58:15,540 your local fire or police department. 2046 01:58:16,500 --> 01:58:19,230 Adam Curry: So now we know when now we know that it was indeed a 2047 01:58:19,230 --> 01:58:23,850 software update. And the biggest complaint was not about loss of 2048 01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:28,560 internet or loss of income or No, no, no what everyone was 2049 01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,260 really mad about. It's I want some credit for this 2050 01:58:31,290 --> 01:58:34,260 Unknown: you attend this evening. at&t says it is trying 2051 01:58:34,260 --> 01:58:38,130 to make things right after this week's nationwide service 2052 01:58:38,130 --> 01:58:40,920 outage, you know in a post to their website tonight, the 2053 01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:44,940 provider apologize for letting customers down and promised a $5 2054 01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:49,410 credit grid impacted accounts and there are 1000s of the we 2055 01:58:49,410 --> 01:58:53,640 are totally will appear on your bill in one to two cycles. at&t 2056 01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:57,870 Blaming the hours long outage on Thursday on a technical error 2057 01:58:58,170 --> 01:59:02,190 for the current while expanding their network. Now this FCC and 2058 01:59:02,190 --> 01:59:04,710 the FBI right now is still 2059 01:59:04,710 --> 01:59:05,580 investigating. 2060 01:59:05,730 --> 01:59:09,210 Adam Curry: Yeah, so but they copped to it. It was a expanding 2061 01:59:09,210 --> 01:59:12,240 their network, whatever that means. So 2062 01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:18,090 John C Dvorak: I have a very concerning comment about that 2063 01:59:18,090 --> 01:59:22,950 clip. Yes, exactly. Why would somebody explain to me exactly 2064 01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:28,590 why do you need phone service for the GPS on your phone to 2065 01:59:28,590 --> 01:59:33,480 work? And that was elucidated in that particular clip. So I 2066 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,450 couldn't do anything. I couldn't tell my wife where I was a GPS 2067 01:59:36,450 --> 01:59:39,780 wasn't working. And I've noticed this when you have one of these 2068 01:59:39,780 --> 01:59:42,570 phones and you lose your service for whatever reason. Why does 2069 01:59:42,570 --> 01:59:47,550 the GPS go out? It makes no sense because well, because 2070 01:59:47,550 --> 01:59:49,680 they're tracking you. Is there a reason? Yes, 2071 01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:53,370 Adam Curry: because most phones will give you accurate location 2072 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,550 based upon cell phone triangulation tower 2073 01:59:56,550 --> 02:00:00,360 triangulation. Yeah, of course. They're tracking you. Hello. Oh, 2074 02:00:00,630 --> 02:00:03,240 surprised I thought how would you even know that you don't 2075 02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,070 take your phone out of your drawer? It's still in your 2076 02:00:05,070 --> 02:00:05,640 drawer? 2077 02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:11,700 John C Dvorak: I am on month. 14? Yes. Of no phone? Yeah. 2078 02:00:12,719 --> 02:00:15,929 Adam Curry: Congratulations. And here's what isn't observation. 2079 02:00:17,699 --> 02:00:19,859 What? Because I talked to a couple people, and there were 2080 02:00:19,859 --> 02:00:24,269 people very freaked out there was their friend of ours, who 2081 02:00:24,269 --> 02:00:27,419 were on their way to Austin and turned around. Like, I don't 2082 02:00:27,419 --> 02:00:31,289 want to go into Austin without cell service. But yeah, oh, 2083 02:00:31,289 --> 02:00:31,619 yeah. 2084 02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:34,950 John C Dvorak: And this is not good. No. 2085 02:00:34,980 --> 02:00:37,920 Adam Curry: And these are successful, smart individuals. 2086 02:00:39,150 --> 02:00:42,420 The other part is when people saw because you know, you didn't 2087 02:00:42,420 --> 02:00:45,600 have a network, and then it's what I think happens with these 2088 02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:50,190 phones is that it says SOS only, which means that either happens 2089 02:00:50,190 --> 02:00:53,820 when you have no service or you haven't paid your service. I 2090 02:00:53,820 --> 02:00:58,980 think I'm not sure. Maybe you can connect to another cell 2091 02:00:58,980 --> 02:01:03,240 tower to send a 911 call or to make a 911 call. Not so sure. 2092 02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:09,360 But the user experience of SOS only or SOS freak people out 2093 02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:13,050 because they couldn't call. They had no idea why SOS was there 2094 02:01:13,050 --> 02:01:17,250 other than Oh, my God, we're in an SOS situation. They literally 2095 02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:20,040 did not know what that meant. It's, it's a bad UI. I mean, 2096 02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:24,570 it's a it's a bad UI choice, in hindsight. But yes, there were 2097 02:01:24,570 --> 02:01:29,790 people who just felt crippled, and I just want one of our 2098 02:01:30,450 --> 02:01:33,570 church growth. He said, You know, if it wasn't for you, and 2099 02:01:33,570 --> 02:01:37,680 your show, I would have been completely I would have melted 2100 02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:42,510 into oblivion out of fear. Because the cell service didn't 2101 02:01:42,510 --> 02:01:47,460 work and it said SOS and remember that they just everyone 2102 02:01:47,460 --> 02:01:52,740 just saw that Obama movie, the Obama produced movie about you 2103 02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:56,610 know, the, the whole system melting down and the Tesla's 2104 02:01:56,610 --> 02:02:02,340 driving by themselves. In that part kind of worked. Sadly. 2105 02:02:04,410 --> 02:02:07,020 John C Dvorak: This could have been this may have not been a 2106 02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:09,540 failure at all. It could have been a 2107 02:02:09,540 --> 02:02:12,690 Adam Curry: test. I'm not going you are not wrong with that, 2108 02:02:12,690 --> 02:02:16,860 John. I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong. Meanwhile, there is an 2109 02:02:16,860 --> 02:02:19,440 actual cyber issue across Chicagoland. 2110 02:02:19,620 --> 02:02:21,810 Unknown: This cyber attack a pack certain prescription 2111 02:02:21,810 --> 02:02:25,140 refills in certain locations, the company attacks as if 2112 02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:28,170 they're not taking any shortcuts. To fix this problem. 2113 02:02:28,170 --> 02:02:30,840 The outage is expected to last through the remainder of the 2114 02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:34,470 day. Still, there is concern if this outage isn't fixed by the 2115 02:02:34,470 --> 02:02:38,130 weekend. A cyber attack against one of the country's largest 2116 02:02:38,130 --> 02:02:41,940 prescription processors enters a third day change healthcare 2117 02:02:41,940 --> 02:02:45,180 provides prescription processing through optim, which supplies 2118 02:02:45,180 --> 02:02:48,720 technology services to 1000s of pharmacies. The company was 2119 02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:52,110 attacked on Wednesday, making certain prescriptions difficult 2120 02:02:52,140 --> 02:02:54,810 to refill electronically. According to The Wall Street 2121 02:02:54,810 --> 02:02:58,170 Journal optins parent company UnitedHealth suspects a foreign 2122 02:02:58,170 --> 02:03:01,560 government was behind the attack line the company says they've 2123 02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:04,140 disconnected change health care systems you 2124 02:03:04,140 --> 02:03:07,410 Adam Curry: sure you want just expanding your network? Is a 2125 02:03:07,410 --> 02:03:10,020 foreign state actor everybody how come that's not national 2126 02:03:10,020 --> 02:03:12,210 news then that's local that's Chicago 2127 02:03:13,410 --> 02:03:15,150 John C Dvorak: that should have been covered. And 2128 02:03:15,810 --> 02:03:18,930 Adam Curry: I want to I'm very curious about your kid flew 2129 02:03:18,930 --> 02:03:22,290 answers clips. But before we do that, I just wanted to follow up 2130 02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:24,870 on something we're talking about on the last show about these 2131 02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:30,750 bogus charities that are in NGOs that are getting big money for 2132 02:03:30,780 --> 02:03:32,880 John C Dvorak: for our exit strategy, but 2133 02:03:33,930 --> 02:03:37,050 Adam Curry: it is and it's quite easy to do. And remember just 2134 02:03:37,050 --> 02:03:41,040 because a charity has Catholic in their name, doesn't mean does 2135 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,830 it mean a thing? No, it could be One Hour Photo doesn't mean 2136 02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:46,500 you're gonna get pictures in one hour. What are some other 2137 02:03:46,500 --> 02:03:47,310 examples? 2138 02:03:47,970 --> 02:03:51,360 John C Dvorak: Of? Well, the classic is one hour cleaners one 2139 02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:52,200 hour cleaners 2140 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,320 Adam Curry: isn't that's the best one. One hour just to name 2141 02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:59,610 this not not advertising. So now Ken Paxton, our Attorney General 2142 02:03:59,610 --> 02:04:01,890 here in Texas is going after one of them. 2143 02:04:02,340 --> 02:04:05,250 Unknown: Backed by dozens of local elected leaders this week 2144 02:04:05,250 --> 02:04:08,940 the El Paso migrant shelter, annunciation house flatly 2145 02:04:08,940 --> 02:04:12,900 denying claims from the attorney general that they participated 2146 02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:16,800 in activities that he deemed illegal, including human 2147 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:20,190 smuggling. The Catholic nonprofit instead claims Mr. 2148 02:04:20,190 --> 02:04:23,400 Paxson is just trying to shut them down because he personally 2149 02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:27,810 disagrees that the services they provide to migrants, services 2150 02:04:27,810 --> 02:04:32,040 MIDI in the border community say are badly needed. December 2151 02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:35,910 when we were having about 3000 asylum seekers coming through. 2152 02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:38,760 We couldn't have made it without the Annunciation house we 2153 02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:42,330 couldn't have made it without the help of the NGOs. We 2154 02:04:42,330 --> 02:04:47,490 will not be intimidated in our work to serve Jesus Christ in 2155 02:04:47,490 --> 02:04:51,450 our sisters and brothers fleeing danger and seeking to keep their 2156 02:04:51,450 --> 02:04:52,950 families together. 2157 02:04:53,640 --> 02:05:00,240 Is there no shame to refer to houses of God houses his 2158 02:05:00,510 --> 02:05:04,110 hospitality. stash houses. 2159 02:05:05,310 --> 02:05:08,550 The Attorney General also accusing annunciation house of 2160 02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:12,510 withholding records but lawyers for the nonprofit refuted that 2161 02:05:12,510 --> 02:05:17,700 as well. saying his office only gave them small staff 24 hours, 2162 02:05:17,700 --> 02:05:21,000 they're small staff, I should say 24 hours to produce a 2163 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:24,210 massive amount of documents. So I 2164 02:05:24,210 --> 02:05:27,180 Adam Curry: love stories like this. This, you know, so they 2165 02:05:27,180 --> 02:05:33,630 had some very Catholic Bishop looking guy who showed up. I 2166 02:05:33,630 --> 02:05:37,050 mean, he almost sounded like an actor. I really don't know 2167 02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:41,250 anything about him. But annunciation house, there are 2168 02:05:41,250 --> 02:05:45,720 nonprofit, I went to the normal sources to look at their form 2169 02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:49,800 9090 Wouldn't you know, they haven't filed one since 2003. 2170 02:05:50,130 --> 02:05:54,180 The only time they ever filed one. That is fraud right there. 2171 02:05:54,660 --> 02:06:00,810 You cannot be a nonprofit in the United States and not file your 2172 02:06:00,810 --> 02:06:09,990 form 990 Certainly not for 11 years. So I think there's this 2173 02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:11,910 is just maybe the tip of the iceberg. 2174 02:06:14,010 --> 02:06:16,110 John C Dvorak: Maybe they're under some other name, and it is 2175 02:06:16,110 --> 02:06:19,560 filed now now and I can't believe they'd go that long 2176 02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:21,480 without filing any paperwork. This 2177 02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:26,340 Adam Curry: is a bonanza, John, it's a bonanza. There's so much 2178 02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:31,290 fraud and waste and abuse. By the way, there's a new term l 2179 02:06:31,290 --> 02:06:38,190 pass l pass is the new term. It's an acronym LPA. S. Dame 2180 02:06:38,190 --> 02:06:42,600 Beth heard this and send it to me. Legally processed asylum 2181 02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:48,720 seeker l pass to look for it. Be on the lookout for the L pass. 2182 02:06:49,620 --> 02:06:51,630 Legally processed asylum seeker. 2183 02:06:55,530 --> 02:06:59,730 John C Dvorak: All right, I have a series of clips. Yes. This is 2184 02:06:59,730 --> 02:07:02,010 special that was done. It was actually quite good. But the 2185 02:07:02,010 --> 02:07:05,820 some of the big questions weren't asked, which I will ask 2186 02:07:05,820 --> 02:07:09,540 during the playing of these clips. But the New York Times 2187 02:07:09,540 --> 02:07:16,350 did a long look at so called Kid fluent sirs. And these are 2188 02:07:16,350 --> 02:07:19,860 children who have accounts that are created by their mothers and 2189 02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:24,660 they're just little their kids like eight 910 1112 year olds. 2190 02:07:25,290 --> 02:07:31,350 And there's 1000s and 1000s of these accounts and they will 2191 02:07:32,130 --> 02:07:36,510 it's actually a disturbing series of clips and you'll be 2192 02:07:36,510 --> 02:07:38,940 more disturbed as you listen to each one. Let's start with clip 2193 02:07:38,940 --> 02:07:39,600 one. A 2194 02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,570 Unknown: new investigation looks at the disturbing world of so 2195 02:07:42,570 --> 02:07:46,710 called Kid flu answers and the moms who run their accounts. One 2196 02:07:46,710 --> 02:07:50,610 in three preteens say being an influencer is a career goal, but 2197 02:07:50,610 --> 02:07:54,330 the reality poses serious risks to underage girls. Stephanie 2198 02:07:54,330 --> 02:07:56,910 sigh looks at those concerns. Instagram 2199 02:07:56,910 --> 02:07:59,880 doesn't allow children younger than 13 to have their own 2200 02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:03,240 accounts. So what we're seeing is parents have kid influencers 2201 02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:06,540 set up and manage these accounts. posting content of 2202 02:08:06,540 --> 02:08:09,840 girls can be lucrative. Instagram makes it possible to 2203 02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:13,890 have paid monthly subscribers and kids apparel brands will pay 2204 02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:18,090 1000s of dollars for a single post of a kid modeling say their 2205 02:08:18,090 --> 02:08:21,780 dance leotards. But what might seem like innocent photos to a 2206 02:08:21,780 --> 02:08:26,250 mom may read differently to a man or a pedophile? New York 2207 02:08:26,250 --> 02:08:30,450 Times reporter Michael Keller analyzed data from 5000 of these 2208 02:08:30,450 --> 02:08:34,500 mom run accounts as part of a New York Times investigation and 2209 02:08:34,500 --> 02:08:38,280 joins me now Michael, thank you for being here. I mean, the 2210 02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:42,900 headline of your report really sums up the risk, a marketplace 2211 02:08:42,900 --> 02:08:49,770 of girl influencers managed by moms and stalked by men. Whoa, 2212 02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:52,650 Adam Curry: I already know where this is going. This is a setup. 2213 02:08:52,830 --> 02:08:55,710 This is a setup to legislation. There's no doubt about it. 2214 02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:58,050 John C Dvorak: Well, there might be but I think they're gonna 2215 02:08:58,050 --> 02:09:02,700 have trouble. The course this is also the gouge. Yeah, for 2216 02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:05,700 soccer. Berg. Yeah, of course. Yeah. We gotta get he's not 2217 02:09:05,700 --> 02:09:08,940 putting up enough money to the Republican who is the 2218 02:09:08,940 --> 02:09:11,610 Republicans this time? Republicans? Yeah, the 2219 02:09:11,610 --> 02:09:15,900 Republicans for sure. The Democrats, probably less so. But 2220 02:09:15,900 --> 02:09:18,540 there's a lot of interesting potential here. When you start 2221 02:09:18,540 --> 02:09:21,570 listening to the numbers, the fact that they found 5000 of 2222 02:09:21,570 --> 02:09:24,420 these things that they looked into, which seems excessive 2223 02:09:24,780 --> 02:09:29,280 means that's the tip of the iceberg. Yeah. There's probably 2224 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:34,590 20,000 of these of these of these screwball kid flu answers, 2225 02:09:34,590 --> 02:09:38,550 which is idiotic, if anything ever has been. And you have to 2226 02:09:38,550 --> 02:09:43,170 wonder what's going on here. Let's go. Part two. What did 2227 02:09:43,170 --> 02:09:46,830 Unknown: you find about how prolific these accounts are and 2228 02:09:46,830 --> 02:09:49,170 why so many moms are into this? 2229 02:09:49,380 --> 02:09:52,860 My colleague Jennifer Valentino did reason I wanted to look into 2230 02:09:52,860 --> 02:09:57,030 this world of child influencers. And as you said, they often are 2231 02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:59,700 too young to have account to their own and so they're run by 2232 02:09:59,700 --> 02:10:03,990 their pay Parents, they got into them for a variety of reasons, 2233 02:10:04,020 --> 02:10:08,040 there was a range from dancers and gymnasts who wanted to get 2234 02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:13,080 free or discounted leotards in exchange for photos, modeling 2235 02:10:13,110 --> 02:10:17,880 the apparel. A lot of parents said that social media was the 2236 02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:22,380 way they could assure a good digital resume for their child's 2237 02:10:22,380 --> 02:10:26,070 future and maybe even help pay for college or gain 2238 02:10:26,070 --> 02:10:30,780 opportunities working with sought after choreographers on 2239 02:10:30,780 --> 02:10:35,130 the more extreme end your aspiring models, some had their 2240 02:10:35,130 --> 02:10:37,740 own subscriptions, both on Instagram, where they would 2241 02:10:37,740 --> 02:10:44,010 charge up to $20 a month for more photos or chat sessions 2242 02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:48,090 with the child or on other platforms where the monthly cost 2243 02:10:48,090 --> 02:10:50,490 went as high as $250. 2244 02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:53,040 Adam Curry: It's only fans for children, Lord Jesus come 2245 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:53,520 quickly. 2246 02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:59,940 John C Dvorak: It's only fans for children. For $250 a month, 2247 02:10:59,940 --> 02:11:05,220 you can chat with one of these kids. Oh, this is sick. It's 2248 02:11:05,220 --> 02:11:09,600 totally This is so sick. And here's what one of the things 2249 02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:13,290 that you you listen to this report, and you just wonder 2250 02:11:13,290 --> 02:11:16,230 where they're where their reportage actually is because 2251 02:11:16,230 --> 02:11:19,920 his New York Times guys had like some sort of a weenie. And they 2252 02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:22,560 go on and on and on. Nobody seems to bring up the 2253 02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:28,170 possibility even though it has to be apparent. And there's a 2254 02:11:28,170 --> 02:11:33,030 pun in there. It has to be apparent that there is some moms 2255 02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:38,370 single moms, let's say not to put you know, put the point them 2256 02:11:38,370 --> 02:11:42,960 out specifically, who are whoring out their kids. You 2257 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:46,620 know, it was net before it was never discussed. And for you 2258 02:11:46,620 --> 02:11:49,590 Adam Curry: continue. My sister Willow, you know, she did her 2259 02:11:49,590 --> 02:11:57,420 dissertation on social networking, social media, and 2260 02:11:57,450 --> 02:12:01,950 she did a lot of study. She got a degree online in psychology, 2261 02:12:02,370 --> 02:12:07,980 and Master's. And she she did this or she, I don't know if she 2262 02:12:07,980 --> 02:12:11,250 came across a study to the study yourself. But she told me that 2263 02:12:11,250 --> 02:12:15,330 the worst thing that that moms are doing early moms is they're 2264 02:12:15,330 --> 02:12:19,260 taking pictures while they're with their, like nursing, or 2265 02:12:19,260 --> 02:12:22,860 have their child in their arms. And she says it's it's been 2266 02:12:22,860 --> 02:12:27,330 proven that this is very destructive for the bonding 2267 02:12:27,330 --> 02:12:31,740 process between mother and child because the mother is not not 2268 02:12:31,770 --> 02:12:36,960 focused on the child, the mother is focused on herself. And this 2269 02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:41,160 is when this starts. It's really about the moms I think, and or 2270 02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:43,890 parents. I don't want to single moms. But I think it's about the 2271 02:12:43,890 --> 02:12:49,530 parents who are caught. I mean, this is this is not good. 2272 02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:52,500 John C Dvorak: Well, they only talk about moms here. So there 2273 02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:55,860 you can get leave the dads out, okay, they probably have no 2274 02:12:55,860 --> 02:12:59,100 obligation otherwise, let's go with clip three. 2275 02:12:59,340 --> 02:13:02,790 Unknown: So your report also found that a lot of the 2276 02:13:02,790 --> 02:13:07,650 followers of these accounts are men, are they driving these 2277 02:13:07,650 --> 02:13:10,650 accounts popularity and their profits? So 2278 02:13:10,650 --> 02:13:14,970 we did an analysis looking at the follower size of these 2279 02:13:14,970 --> 02:13:19,950 accounts, and the percentage of men in that audience and did 2280 02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:24,270 find correlation that as the audience's got larger, there 2281 02:13:24,270 --> 02:13:28,830 were more men in them. Now some parents and pretty much all the 2282 02:13:28,830 --> 02:13:32,940 parents we spoke to said that men following them and posting 2283 02:13:32,940 --> 02:13:36,330 inappropriately was a really big problem. Some of them said that 2284 02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:39,210 the first thing they did when they woke up in the morning was 2285 02:13:39,210 --> 02:13:41,820 block followers. And the last thing they did before they went 2286 02:13:41,820 --> 02:13:48,630 to bed was block followers. They often post inappropriate or even 2287 02:13:48,630 --> 02:13:53,430 proposition the girls in the comments below the photos. They 2288 02:13:53,460 --> 02:13:58,830 do block them as I said, but a lot of them ran into issues 2289 02:13:58,830 --> 02:14:02,580 where if they blocked too many Instagram would start limiting 2290 02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:06,720 their ability to either follow new accounts, or to block even 2291 02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:09,870 more one parents said, like I can't believe this. I've reached 2292 02:14:09,870 --> 02:14:12,540 my limit or the day of blocking creepy men. 2293 02:14:13,590 --> 02:14:15,960 Adam Curry: Oh my god, how about reporting? Have you considered 2294 02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:20,340 reporting creepy men? Is it just blocking it? Can't you report? 2295 02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:23,730 John C Dvorak: Now this seems to me this reminds me at this point 2296 02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:27,660 of the problem you get with spam calls and these guys with the 2297 02:14:27,660 --> 02:14:32,430 blue pillow. And pg&e, we get your 5% discount if you just 2298 02:14:32,460 --> 02:14:37,530 give us everything you know about yourself. Why doesn't the 2299 02:14:37,530 --> 02:14:41,640 government I mean, instead of finding more things to indict 2300 02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:43,080 Trump about Elizabeth 2301 02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:45,750 Adam Curry: Warren should be all over this. Yeah. Where's 2302 02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:49,440 John C Dvorak: Elizabeth Warren? And tracking these creepy men as 2303 02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:53,130 they put it, try there. They have IP addresses. This is all 2304 02:14:53,130 --> 02:14:57,180 trackable. Not all I'm sure some maybe go through a VPN some of 2305 02:14:57,180 --> 02:15:01,710 them maybe fool around in some funny way. way, but there's this 2306 02:15:01,710 --> 02:15:04,980 is like you could this is you could stop this. If the 2307 02:15:04,980 --> 02:15:08,340 government instead of going after Trump about everything 2308 02:15:08,340 --> 02:15:10,530 would spend a lot of time, the kind of 2309 02:15:10,530 --> 02:15:14,790 Adam Curry: I have no intention of stopping this, our lawmakers 2310 02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:18,420 have no intention. They, they they believe they need social 2311 02:15:18,420 --> 02:15:21,600 media, they believe they need these companies to post their 2312 02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:26,040 own idiotic crap about their little, little viral moment that 2313 02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:29,880 they tried to do during the so called debates. It's all in the 2314 02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:32,310 internet was a mistake. Though 2315 02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:34,020 John C Dvorak: I've said that forever. So let's go watch clip 2316 02:15:34,020 --> 02:15:34,410 for 2317 02:15:34,890 --> 02:15:37,110 Unknown: Michael, I just want to show our viewers an example of 2318 02:15:37,110 --> 02:15:39,420 what you're talking about. The New York Times in your 2319 02:15:39,420 --> 02:15:43,200 investigation doesn't show the actual post, but you describe 2320 02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:48,300 what the post showed a nine year old in a golden bikini, lounging 2321 02:15:48,300 --> 02:15:52,140 on a towel. And then you show the comments section full of 2322 02:15:52,140 --> 02:15:56,580 sexually suggestive remarks. But Michael, it doesn't stop at the 2323 02:15:56,580 --> 02:16:00,660 comments. In every case, you describe a world in which the 2324 02:16:00,660 --> 02:16:05,670 girls are sucked in to this sort of internet underworld of sexual 2325 02:16:05,670 --> 02:16:07,350 predation. Right. 2326 02:16:07,350 --> 02:16:11,190 And that was what was truly disturbing in what we found. 2327 02:16:12,090 --> 02:16:17,610 Beyond the suggestive or predatory comments, some parents 2328 02:16:17,610 --> 02:16:23,730 actually received threats from some of the online, they would 2329 02:16:23,730 --> 02:16:28,020 reach out and accused them of exploiting their child and 2330 02:16:28,020 --> 02:16:31,200 threatening to contact their school or their family and 2331 02:16:31,200 --> 02:16:35,880 friends and seemingly exposed them. Because it is worth noting 2332 02:16:35,880 --> 02:16:41,220 that in you know, photos of children in dance conventions 2333 02:16:41,220 --> 02:16:46,650 are normal within that context. But within the context of the 2334 02:16:46,650 --> 02:16:52,650 internet, people bring to them in some cases, their own skewed 2335 02:16:52,650 --> 02:16:56,940 points of view. And so these men were trying to seemingly with 2336 02:16:56,940 --> 02:17:02,040 threats of blackmail, cause a lot of actual harm to the 2337 02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:02,820 families to 2338 02:17:02,820 --> 02:17:04,980 Adam Curry: making this all about creepy men. How about the 2339 02:17:04,980 --> 02:17:09,000 creepy Mom's doing this? Yeah, stop it. 2340 02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:11,400 John C Dvorak: I definitely like I said, that's the question that 2341 02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:14,940 was never asked how many of these moms and how much of this 2342 02:17:14,940 --> 02:17:17,460 is the moms whoring out their kids, 2343 02:17:17,549 --> 02:17:19,979 Adam Curry: we really need to speak up and speak out about 2344 02:17:19,979 --> 02:17:26,099 these black holes of evil and wickedness. This is horrible. 2345 02:17:26,910 --> 02:17:29,940 Unknown: Clip five. So it occurs to me, Michael, that this is not 2346 02:17:29,940 --> 02:17:35,550 just an investigation into risks that girls are taking online. 2347 02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:39,330 But a story about parents who are making the decision to put 2348 02:17:39,330 --> 02:17:43,140 their girls at potential risk of ovulating at the very least, 2349 02:17:43,410 --> 02:17:46,500 what is the biggest takeaway for moms who are thinking of letting 2350 02:17:46,500 --> 02:17:48,510 their daughters become influencers? 2351 02:17:49,140 --> 02:17:52,950 So as we said, you know, Instagram does allow parents to 2352 02:17:52,950 --> 02:17:58,110 run these accounts for them even when they're below 13. But what 2353 02:17:58,110 --> 02:18:03,330 we found was that it is very hard to do so in a safe way. And 2354 02:18:03,330 --> 02:18:08,220 that it may take hours every day of blocking creepy or possibly 2355 02:18:08,220 --> 02:18:14,340 predatory men from interacting with the account. And the real 2356 02:18:14,340 --> 02:18:19,500 life threats that this could lead to maybe we heard stories 2357 02:18:19,500 --> 02:18:24,630 of strange packages, showing up at people's doors and could go 2358 02:18:24,630 --> 02:18:28,440 from the online world into real life and affect your family was 2359 02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:30,630 a really strong takeaway for me, 2360 02:18:31,229 --> 02:18:34,469 Adam Curry: is very disturbing. This is a disturbing report. Do 2361 02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:37,469 you have a a analysis of this? 2362 02:18:39,600 --> 02:18:42,900 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I thought it was. It was just scratching 2363 02:18:42,900 --> 02:18:47,370 the surface. I think they found 5000 There's probably 20,000 Or 2364 02:18:47,610 --> 02:18:50,550 who knows how many. They don't mention anything about what 2365 02:18:50,550 --> 02:18:53,610 about a 13 year old doesn't need mom and she's decided to become 2366 02:18:53,610 --> 02:18:57,240 an influencer. And how did this influencer thing take off in the 2367 02:18:57,240 --> 02:18:59,940 first place? There's a lot of unanswered questions here. 2368 02:19:00,330 --> 02:19:04,110 Creepy or not? The whole thing this is bad. 2369 02:19:04,140 --> 02:19:06,510 Adam Curry: It's the entire business model of Instagram. It 2370 02:19:06,510 --> 02:19:11,730 is the business model of Instagram influencers. Yeah, and 2371 02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:14,610 there's money and people are dumb and they're not thinking 2372 02:19:14,610 --> 02:19:17,940 and the fact that they're just blocking and not reporting the 2373 02:19:17,940 --> 02:19:23,250 whole thing is wrong. It's very very wrong. And this will all be 2374 02:19:23,250 --> 02:19:27,090 added to kosa the kids Online Safety Act what is what this 2375 02:19:27,090 --> 02:19:34,320 will result in? I know this I guarantee it will be you cannot 2376 02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:40,410 be on any of these so called Social Media hellholes without 2377 02:19:41,550 --> 02:19:45,420 verified ID government ID you're going to that's where it's all 2378 02:19:45,420 --> 02:19:49,350 going to lead to anonymity will be gone mainly for the creepy 2379 02:19:49,350 --> 02:19:52,950 dudes but you will not be able to get an account unless it's 2380 02:19:52,950 --> 02:19:55,890 verified the government's gonna know it's going to end all the 2381 02:19:55,890 --> 02:19:59,820 cool anonymous so called free speech we have this is coming 2382 02:19:59,820 --> 02:20:04,260 down Oh, I think this report is a bowl of crap. You watch, there 2383 02:20:04,260 --> 02:20:07,500 John C Dvorak: is no way that the smart money can't get around 2384 02:20:07,530 --> 02:20:10,200 any of these restrictions by creating phony baloney 2385 02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:14,970 identities elsewhere in other countries using VPNs and Grand 2386 02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:18,720 Prix. I'm not saying it's going to India, 2387 02:20:18,780 --> 02:20:21,270 Adam Curry: I'm not saying you misunderstand what I'm saying. 2388 02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:25,440 I'm not saying it's going to fix it, that it will be required for 2389 02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:29,160 you to have an Instagram account as an American you will be 2390 02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:32,970 required to have to go through this process of verifying or 2391 02:20:32,970 --> 02:20:36,030 Twitter or Facebook or any of it that's what they're doing. 2392 02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:38,940 That's what they're setting up. It doesn't mean that it'll be 2393 02:20:38,970 --> 02:20:43,530 effective but that's that will be a requirement. Anything over 2394 02:20:43,530 --> 02:20:48,480 a million users will have that requirement I'm reading the law 2395 02:20:48,480 --> 02:20:50,280 I'm reading the bill that they're and the amendments 2396 02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:52,680 they're putting in there it's it's on its way. 2397 02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,080 John C Dvorak: Well, they're fooling themselves, but I 2398 02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:56,910 Adam Curry: didn't say I was going to fix it as long as 2399 02:20:56,940 --> 02:21:00,180 creepy moms will want to pour out their children that's never 2400 02:21:00,180 --> 02:21:01,140 going to stop 2401 02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:07,680 John C Dvorak: Yes. And with that you can conclude the 2402 02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:08,250 segment 2403 02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:11,160 Adam Curry: as a horrible segment I'm in desperate need of 2404 02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:14,610 a good news segment after I thank you for your courage and 2405 02:21:14,610 --> 02:21:16,920 say in the morning to you the man who put the sea and creepy 2406 02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:19,140 moms ladies and gentlemen say hello my friend on the other end 2407 02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:20,370 the morning Mr. John 2408 02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:26,400 John C Dvorak: Curtis and the millennial ships to see boots on 2409 02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,350 the ground feet in the air subs in the one that the names and 2410 02:21:28,350 --> 02:21:30,180 the nights out there and let us take 2411 02:21:30,180 --> 02:21:32,640 Adam Curry: a look at our trolls Hello beautiful trolls. Can you 2412 02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:39,510 please stop running around so I can catch up? Well, I have good 2413 02:21:39,510 --> 02:21:44,610 news. I have good news. On the previous Sunday we had 2040 2414 02:21:44,610 --> 02:21:51,810 Trolls today's count 2103 So we're up 6060 Trolls check again 2415 02:21:51,810 --> 02:21:56,850 300 No, we're not i This is literally I have the numbers. We 2416 02:21:56,850 --> 02:22:02,250 are We are up one we're up 63 From last Sunday. Yeah, 2417 02:22:02,250 --> 02:22:05,970 John C Dvorak: and that was low. Well by Sunday numbers should be 2418 02:22:05,970 --> 02:22:07,200 2400 2419 02:22:07,260 --> 02:22:09,180 Adam Curry: Well, the maybe you shouldn't be playing these 2420 02:22:09,180 --> 02:22:10,350 creepy mom clips. 2421 02:22:10,770 --> 02:22:17,790 John C Dvorak: It's no that that probably kept him creepy mom 2422 02:22:17,790 --> 02:22:20,490 clips are a winner. CMC 2423 02:22:20,490 --> 02:22:25,590 Adam Curry: baby CMCS creepy mom clips everybody. This is a value 2424 02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:29,460 for value program and our trolls check us out all the way through 2425 02:22:29,460 --> 02:22:32,130 the donation segment. We love having him here. You can join 2426 02:22:32,130 --> 02:22:36,840 them at troll room.io Or try out one of the modern podcast apps 2427 02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:41,910 pod verse cast thematic fountain, curio caster, podcast 2428 02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:46,020 guru podcast addict, you can find all of these at podcast 2429 02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:50,460 apps.com new features, you get a notification when we go live. 2430 02:22:50,460 --> 02:22:53,250 You get notified when we've posted a podcast. It works with 2431 02:22:53,250 --> 02:22:56,490 all your podcasts, you can import them from all those other 2432 02:22:56,490 --> 02:22:57,600 podcast apps. 2433 02:22:59,190 --> 02:23:01,260 John C Dvorak: And I love what I do has value 2434 02:23:01,260 --> 02:23:04,350 Adam Curry: for value, which we have been doing for the past 16 2435 02:23:04,350 --> 02:23:08,070 years. We do not break for commercials, we do not take any 2436 02:23:08,070 --> 02:23:13,110 creepy money from corporations. We don't we just put everything 2437 02:23:13,110 --> 02:23:16,980 out there for you to enjoy. You don't have to do anything for us 2438 02:23:16,980 --> 02:23:21,030 at all. But we do work on your guilty conscience. Because we're 2439 02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:24,630 putting all this effort and work into providing this value to 2440 02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:28,230 you. You can do whatever you want with it. We ask that you 2441 02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:30,990 return some value from time to time could be every single time 2442 02:23:30,990 --> 02:23:34,110 you listen to the show like that was valuable. I laughed. I 2443 02:23:34,110 --> 02:23:37,830 learned something I heard something I hadn't before. It's 2444 02:23:37,860 --> 02:23:42,180 you're not dealing here with controlled opportunists. We're 2445 02:23:42,180 --> 02:23:45,420 just trying to get everyone all riled and spun up. No, we're 2446 02:23:45,420 --> 02:23:48,060 just trying to break down the media and show you what's going 2447 02:23:48,060 --> 02:23:52,770 on in this overarching seal of reveal, reveal season of reveal. 2448 02:23:52,830 --> 02:23:57,540 There we go. So you can do that by sending value back to us 2449 02:23:57,540 --> 02:24:01,710 time, talent or treasure time and talent is hard for a lot of 2450 02:24:01,710 --> 02:24:04,650 people but some people are good at it, for instance are no 2451 02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:09,180 agenda artists. They like to listen live at in the usually at 2452 02:24:09,180 --> 02:24:12,900 the day jobs or doing something else. And then they just get on 2453 02:24:12,900 --> 02:24:15,780 the stick and start doodling around and try and create 2454 02:24:15,780 --> 02:24:18,840 artwork that we will then choose one for right after we're done 2455 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:22,320 and post it. And we want to thank Darren O'Neill who really 2456 02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:28,080 understood exactly what we're talking about. And he did a meta 2457 02:24:28,110 --> 02:24:35,220 ai ai piece of album art. With a robot all Ai no doubt a robot 2458 02:24:35,250 --> 02:24:36,990 even with the hands wrong. He had 2459 02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:39,690 John C Dvorak: a right hand the left hand just got the thumb on 2460 02:24:39,690 --> 02:24:41,070 the wrong side. It 2461 02:24:41,070 --> 02:24:44,160 Adam Curry: was great. It was the best part. I wonder if that 2462 02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:45,150 was intentional. If the 2463 02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:48,840 John C Dvorak: AI screwed it up now the AI just does that. And 2464 02:24:49,020 --> 02:24:49,650 it but the whole 2465 02:24:49,650 --> 02:24:51,930 Adam Curry: thing was perfect. This was a viewer was painting 2466 02:24:51,930 --> 02:24:57,420 and no agenda sign. And it was good. I mean we looked at and 2467 02:24:57,420 --> 02:25:01,560 went you know set for the thumb but that That to me that made it 2468 02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:05,670 even better the show just how creepy and wrong all of this AI 2469 02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:09,570 is. It was a meta piece it was it was it was. It was actually 2470 02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:13,650 being sarcastic about him being critical 2471 02:25:14,340 --> 02:25:17,310 John C Dvorak: of him being sarcastic now, okay, I doesn't 2472 02:25:17,310 --> 02:25:21,870 have that sort of sense. No AI was very ironic 2473 02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:25,080 Adam Curry: down O'Neill has that sense. He knew how to use 2474 02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:31,530 it. Yeah. A lot of people don't. Now there were other pieces and 2475 02:25:31,530 --> 02:25:31,830 Gary's 2476 02:25:31,860 --> 02:25:33,270 John C Dvorak: got quite good at this. 2477 02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:37,050 Adam Curry: I have to say at prompt engineering. 2478 02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:38,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, prompt engineers, not 2479 02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:41,640 Adam Curry: an artist. He's a prompt engineer. Yeah, well, he 2480 02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:43,950 John C Dvorak: was actually kind of pretty good as a as an 2481 02:25:43,950 --> 02:25:48,060 artist, but he's decided to give it up. Throw it to hell with it. 2482 02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:50,730 And now he's a prompt lumped in here which is really I'm 2483 02:25:50,730 --> 02:25:54,720 surprised he doesn't have the AI doing is rock and roll show 2484 02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:57,750 Adam Curry: is pre show him a may be AI for all we know, but 2485 02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:58,950 John C Dvorak: it could be pretty soon. 2486 02:25:59,490 --> 02:26:03,300 Adam Curry: We also like Tyler, bro, you like Tyler browns? Moon 2487 02:26:03,300 --> 02:26:07,410 Landing with the slate, which I nixed like now. It was too 2488 02:26:07,410 --> 02:26:08,190 simple. 2489 02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:09,510 John C Dvorak: Which one was this? 2490 02:26:09,570 --> 02:26:12,810 Adam Curry: It's the movie slate with the roll. 3030 I 2491 02:26:12,990 --> 02:26:13,830 John C Dvorak: liked that piece. 2492 02:26:14,460 --> 02:26:16,950 Adam Curry: I liked the super duper, which also from Darren 2493 02:26:16,950 --> 02:26:17,610 which you just wish 2494 02:26:17,610 --> 02:26:21,360 John C Dvorak: it had been going on whatsoever. Super duper. 2495 02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:21,630 That's 2496 02:26:21,630 --> 02:26:22,380 Adam Curry: your opinion. 2497 02:26:22,680 --> 02:26:25,140 John C Dvorak: There was no dimensionality. There wasn't any 2498 02:26:25,140 --> 02:26:25,500 other. 2499 02:26:27,030 --> 02:26:28,050 Adam Curry: Yeah, got it. 2500 02:26:28,290 --> 02:26:29,310 John C Dvorak: Use too small. You 2501 02:26:29,310 --> 02:26:32,820 Adam Curry: vetoed. It is too small. It's too small. It's 2502 02:26:32,820 --> 02:26:37,080 huge. We both kind of like comics or bloggers fake moon 2503 02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:39,510 landing. Kind of. 2504 02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:42,330 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was cute. It's a nice patch. 2505 02:26:42,540 --> 02:26:45,600 Adam Curry: Yeah, I use it for the pre show announcement today. 2506 02:26:46,530 --> 02:26:51,810 And then I'm gonna see some other stuff all my fixes live in 2507 02:26:51,810 --> 02:26:54,720 Texas didn't really quite really quite hit home 2508 02:26:54,750 --> 02:26:57,120 John C Dvorak: it went to comic strip blogger also did the Dr. 2509 02:26:57,120 --> 02:27:05,670 Phil when next to it. And he's missing a finger it just is 2510 02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:08,700 gone. We're under what? Iteration five or six of this 2511 02:27:08,700 --> 02:27:10,800 art and they still can't get the hands right? It 2512 02:27:10,800 --> 02:27:14,070 Adam Curry: didn't even look like Dr. Phil didn't look like 2513 02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:15,330 him. No, that 2514 02:27:15,330 --> 02:27:17,670 John C Dvorak: was just a slice the microphone way up that 2515 02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:20,190 Adam Curry: guy dead? Yeah, because AI doesn't understand 2516 02:27:20,430 --> 02:27:21,180 audio. It doesn't 2517 02:27:21,180 --> 02:27:23,940 John C Dvorak: understand anything. I'm getting sick of 2518 02:27:23,970 --> 02:27:24,570 AI. 2519 02:27:26,610 --> 02:27:31,080 Adam Curry: Buckle up. Clip custodian nice little copy 2520 02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:37,860 editor red pencil, but now it didn't quite have it. I think 2521 02:27:37,860 --> 02:27:42,810 that was it. I mean, other things was anything else? No, I 2522 02:27:42,810 --> 02:27:47,850 think the AI prompt engineers are getting better though. If 2523 02:27:47,850 --> 02:27:51,660 they understand if they have it in their hearts and their souls 2524 02:27:51,660 --> 02:27:54,030 how to create, you know what a good piece of art should look 2525 02:27:54,030 --> 02:27:55,980 like. And they know how to create it. You know, it doesn't 2526 02:27:55,980 --> 02:27:59,580 matter what tool you use, I guess you still have to have 2527 02:27:59,580 --> 02:28:05,610 that funny bone mentality, or the or irony or something. So 2528 02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:09,360 that I just there wasn't anything else. there's anything 2529 02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:14,520 else you wanted to comment on? Nope. Well, thank you very much 2530 02:28:14,520 --> 02:28:18,690 Darren Darren O'Neill. That mean, his taste in music is 2531 02:28:18,690 --> 02:28:19,470 questionable. 2532 02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:23,610 John C Dvorak: As you already Taylor Swift as 2533 02:28:23,610 --> 02:28:27,180 Adam Curry: you always say, but this was a dynamite piece. We 2534 02:28:27,180 --> 02:28:29,820 really appreciate it. Thank you very much. And thank you to all 2535 02:28:29,820 --> 02:28:32,820 the artists for participating in this grand experiment. We try 2536 02:28:32,820 --> 02:28:35,730 out every single show twice a week. No agenda, art 2537 02:28:35,730 --> 02:28:38,520 generator.com. Thank you, Sir Paul couture for setting that up 2538 02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:41,670 and maintaining that for us. We love the new, the new style, the 2539 02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:43,890 new look, you can if you're listening live, you can go 2540 02:28:43,890 --> 02:28:46,950 there. And you can check it out in real time. Just refresh see 2541 02:28:46,950 --> 02:28:49,980 what's going on. Or if you use one of those modern podcast 2542 02:28:49,980 --> 02:28:53,220 apps, you'll see many more of these art pieces, as Dred Scott 2543 02:28:53,220 --> 02:28:56,460 uses most of them for the chapters which are of course 2544 02:28:56,460 --> 02:29:00,270 only available on modern podcast apps. Now let us thank the 2545 02:29:00,300 --> 02:29:04,290 treasurer portion, which means we have executive and Associate 2546 02:29:04,290 --> 02:29:09,810 Executive producers who helped us out and get not only kudos 2547 02:29:09,810 --> 02:29:13,290 for helping us at this level, but also receive an executive 2548 02:29:13,290 --> 02:29:16,560 producer or Associate Executive producer credit and I'm going to 2549 02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:18,990 be nice guy today. I'm gonna I'm gonna let you do the first one 2550 02:29:18,990 --> 02:29:21,150 and I'll take that huge one that comes right after it. 2551 02:29:21,960 --> 02:29:23,610 John C Dvorak: There's another one after that. Okay, well, this 2552 02:29:23,610 --> 02:29:27,780 one is $1,000. This is kind of an anomalous donation because I 2553 02:29:27,780 --> 02:29:28,200 went back 2554 02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:31,860 Adam Curry: it looks like 1100 to me not 1100 Yeah, I went 2555 02:29:31,860 --> 02:29:38,310 John C Dvorak: back and forth with Tsar Zarin Denzel because I 2556 02:29:38,310 --> 02:29:43,020 got a note from his brother. And his brother says, You can't use 2557 02:29:43,020 --> 02:29:46,740 my name. My brother just donated a bunch of money and he's gonna 2558 02:29:46,740 --> 02:29:49,710 you've given me the donation and I don't like your show. You 2559 02:29:49,710 --> 02:29:52,320 suck. And I don't want my name mentioned. 2560 02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:54,660 Adam Curry: He didn't say that he'd never heard the show. 2561 02:29:55,770 --> 02:30:00,060 John C Dvorak: Exactly. And so I sent that note to Zara and I 2562 02:30:00,060 --> 02:30:03,810 said, What is this? And he sent me a note back saying I didn't 2563 02:30:03,810 --> 02:30:06,000 know he's never listened to the show, I have no idea why he's 2564 02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:09,450 getting all bent out of shape. I never got the original note that 2565 02:30:09,450 --> 02:30:14,640 was crediting anybody. So I've got no real note from Zarn. And 2566 02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:17,400 I want if he has something he wants to tell us later, I will 2567 02:30:17,430 --> 02:30:22,350 be amenable to running it as a make good. But the there's 2568 02:30:22,350 --> 02:30:24,960 something missing here. And it's not the back and forth that I 2569 02:30:24,960 --> 02:30:27,480 did with him his brother that didn't 2570 02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:32,250 Adam Curry: Zarn donate on the previous show. Is that? No, it's 2571 02:30:32,250 --> 02:30:34,470 not where it came from. I thought that's where the problem 2572 02:30:34,470 --> 02:30:36,480 stem from? Whatever. 2573 02:30:36,510 --> 02:30:40,230 John C Dvorak: We got 1100 from him here, and we want to give 2574 02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:42,450 him a double up karma and we'll look for something in the 2575 02:30:42,450 --> 02:30:43,620 future. Yes. 2576 02:30:43,650 --> 02:30:47,040 Adam Curry: And the funny thing about the whole bit is that they 2577 02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:50,580 heard about the no agenda show in Europe on a train from some 2578 02:30:50,580 --> 02:30:51,510 random woman. 2579 02:30:52,620 --> 02:30:56,790 John C Dvorak: Yes, some woman in Switzerland. There you go. On 2580 02:30:56,790 --> 02:31:01,170 a train was promoting the no agenda show and they were a 2581 02:31:01,170 --> 02:31:04,350 dairy I guess oh cow check it out. And Zarin checked it out in 2582 02:31:04,350 --> 02:31:07,680 his brother. I guess it's just a net contrary. Now. Why would I 2583 02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:11,880 take the advice of some woman on the train? I got into nowhere 2584 02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:14,010 now. I'm not listening. All right. Here's 2585 02:31:14,010 --> 02:31:15,840 Adam Curry: the double up karma for you. Thank you. Sorry. 2586 02:31:16,020 --> 02:31:19,590 Unknown: You've got karma 2587 02:31:20,820 --> 02:31:26,610 Adam Curry: that we moved to Vincent viscounty from lantana, 2588 02:31:26,610 --> 02:31:29,670 Texas, and send us a very long note. 2589 02:31:30,300 --> 02:31:32,640 John C Dvorak: But you're lucky a lot of it doesn't need to be 2590 02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:34,620 read. Seems to me. Let me see 2591 02:31:34,620 --> 02:31:37,620 Adam Curry: how we do. Hello gents. Excuse me all of Gitmo 2592 02:31:37,620 --> 02:31:39,750 Nation. I'm very behind on shows. But I'm trying to catch 2593 02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:43,920 up since coming out of the COVID craze in 2021. I have never in 2594 02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:48,600 my life been so freaking busy. As I was reading the newsletter 2595 02:31:48,600 --> 02:31:51,270 last night, I came to the heart wrenching realization that it 2596 02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:53,940 has been way too long since making a producer level 2597 02:31:53,940 --> 02:31:56,670 contribution to the show. Thankfully, having set up a 2598 02:31:56,670 --> 02:31:59,490 monthly contribution, I only feel slightly douchebag is 2599 02:31:59,490 --> 02:32:01,950 nonetheless still a douchebag please dee doo 2600 02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:05,820 Unknown: dee doo. I'm 2601 02:32:05,820 --> 02:32:08,310 Adam Curry: gonna ask for essentially a switcheroo. He 2602 02:32:08,310 --> 02:32:11,100 says please give credit for this executive producer ship to my 2603 02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:15,030 smokin hot wife Sinead. In light of our recent anniversary and 2604 02:32:15,030 --> 02:32:18,120 her upcoming birthday. It's a two for one. And she always 2605 02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:21,630 appreciates a bargain. And our anniversary is on February 2, 2606 02:32:21,630 --> 02:32:24,870 which I recently discovered falls on the 33rd day of the 2607 02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:28,920 year. Furthermore, it is 333 days from the end of the year on 2608 02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:32,310 a leap year credit to my desktop calendar. This was not 2609 02:32:32,310 --> 02:32:37,410 intentional, but certainly destiny. And excuse me, I need a 2610 02:32:37,410 --> 02:32:42,990 lozenge. Also please give our beautiful human resource. EO a 2611 02:32:42,990 --> 02:32:47,430 if I'm gonna try pronouncing it backwards. The firewall if I 2612 02:32:47,430 --> 02:32:48,030 forget 2613 02:32:48,030 --> 02:32:49,320 John C Dvorak: it, elf 2614 02:32:49,380 --> 02:32:54,000 Adam Curry: Elfi I'm gonna say a ofI a happy I'm sorry kid. 2615 02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:58,140 John C Dvorak: I certainly can't pronounce your name. Why don't 2616 02:32:58,140 --> 02:32:58,860 you like in life? 2617 02:32:58,890 --> 02:33:01,260 Adam Curry: Why didn't you just give us a pronunciation guide 2618 02:33:01,260 --> 02:33:05,130 Why be so mean bra a happy 13th Birthday shout out she has been 2619 02:33:05,130 --> 02:33:07,890 a fan of the show since she was nine years old and is growing up 2620 02:33:07,890 --> 02:33:09,030 with a shrunken image 2621 02:33:09,150 --> 02:33:11,160 John C Dvorak: yet she needs it needs we need to know how to 2622 02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:12,690 pronounce yes yeah, we want to 2623 02:33:12,720 --> 02:33:14,310 Adam Curry: we definitely want to know how to pronounce her 2624 02:33:14,310 --> 02:33:18,270 name. That's kind of mean lastly we can get some new business 2625 02:33:18,270 --> 02:33:21,600 house selling and moving to Tennessee karma and our family 2626 02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:26,400 favorite jingle. The strain foamer guy sure keep up the 2627 02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:29,520 great work seriously don't stop or the world very might well 2628 02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:32,550 end. Sorry for the long note. I would have been a shorter note. 2629 02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:42,150 Had I had more time. Yeah. All right. Oh my god. You've got 2630 02:33:43,740 --> 02:33:49,830 karma. Sinead changing Sinead. Okay, so 2631 02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:54,840 John C Dvorak: now we have the if I can move this thing over 2632 02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:58,080 and this is going to take a second to get cleaned up. This 2633 02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:04,650 is command command command. I can read every Okay, Jake. Jake, 2634 02:34:04,650 --> 02:34:11,130 in God's country comes in with a it will click up I can't there 2635 02:34:11,130 --> 02:34:15,390 are 333 Okay. And I can actually barely read this note, but I 2636 02:34:15,390 --> 02:34:19,530 can. Turns out if I click on this thing, 2637 02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:22,170 Adam Curry: oh my goodness, just do it already. 2638 02:34:23,460 --> 02:34:25,560 John C Dvorak: You know, it's not as easy when the thing blows 2639 02:34:25,560 --> 02:34:28,230 out this spreadsheet. This is longer than the other note. 2640 02:34:29,190 --> 02:34:31,650 Millennial producer here and it's been far too long since 2641 02:34:31,650 --> 02:34:34,860 I've chipped in and he got 33 all over the place. I'll skip to 2642 02:34:34,860 --> 02:34:38,310 that. I'm an in private investing industry allocating 2643 02:34:38,310 --> 02:34:41,850 dollars for ultra high net worth families and institutions to 2644 02:34:41,850 --> 02:34:46,020 purchase equity positions in privately held companies. In my 2645 02:34:46,020 --> 02:34:50,070 travels, I deal with a spectrum of thoughts and ideologies. But 2646 02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:53,640 one thing I'm struggling to get behind is the thesis of handing 2647 02:34:53,730 --> 02:34:57,840 former President Trump the ticking time bomb as you both 2648 02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:00,330 are more likely aware of the Biden administration. He's doing 2649 02:35:00,360 --> 02:35:04,500 almost everything to prop up uncle Bernie for another weekend 2650 02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:08,790 or two. Not talking about Bernie Sanders No. The record oil 2651 02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:12,450 production which people don't want to discuss, uncapped debt 2652 02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:15,240 ceiling which people don't want to discuss phony jobs and 2653 02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:19,080 inflation data which we discuss does not sound like a team ready 2654 02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:22,500 to wave the white flag my prediction not to be heated as 2655 02:35:22,500 --> 02:35:25,200 financial advice is as follows. I thought this would be good to 2656 02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:28,710 read. And of course he puts a disclaimer in there because you 2657 02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:32,430 can't really take this advice no as financial advice you need to 2658 02:35:32,430 --> 02:35:37,830 go to an expert, your personal expert. Government continues to 2659 02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:41,610 spend like drunken sailors throughout the year will lead it 2660 02:35:41,610 --> 02:35:44,850 will lead to persistent inflation from three to 5% 2661 02:35:44,850 --> 02:35:50,280 Forcing no fed cuts in 2024 I'm down the SP five but 2662 02:35:50,340 --> 02:35:52,170 Adam Curry: I'm down I agree. I don't think there's going to be 2663 02:35:52,170 --> 02:35:53,490 any cuts they might raise it. 2664 02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:56,580 John C Dvorak: They're never gonna raise it. Not in an 2665 02:35:56,580 --> 02:36:02,130 election year never happened. SP 500 all time high will continue 2666 02:36:02,130 --> 02:36:06,060 throughout 2024 I think there will be a cut in Vidya is a 2667 02:36:06,090 --> 02:36:07,860 house of car yeah, 2668 02:36:07,890 --> 02:36:09,030 Adam Curry: I'm all in on that. 2669 02:36:09,390 --> 02:36:11,220 John C Dvorak: Yeah, when you don't know 2670 02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:14,610 Adam Curry: you shorted it on your game. 2671 02:36:16,080 --> 02:36:19,110 John C Dvorak: I heard your next I may have the next week I 2672 02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:23,580 probably lost my acid. Next refinancing wave will trigger 2673 02:36:23,580 --> 02:36:29,100 the next issue 2025 When mass refinancing will occur in a load 2674 02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:31,440 of negative growth environment mixed with higher rates will 2675 02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:36,030 show many Emperor's wearing no clothes finally, if you can buy 2676 02:36:36,030 --> 02:36:41,250 private businesses or find the means to allocate so it don't 2677 02:36:41,250 --> 02:36:43,770 put your hard earned dollars into the whims of Wall Street 2678 02:36:43,770 --> 02:36:46,470 and other news I would be around I should be around knighthood 2679 02:36:46,470 --> 02:36:49,290 next donation should do it. You'll hear from me soon you 2680 02:36:49,290 --> 02:36:53,460 guys are great. have not missed an episode since Greta was 2681 02:36:53,460 --> 02:36:59,760 transposed as Wednesday items on the album well rock yeah jingles 2682 02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:01,980 don't trust China anything Reverend owl? 2683 02:37:02,010 --> 02:37:03,660 Adam Curry: Yeah All right. Thank you very much. I know 2684 02:37:03,660 --> 02:37:07,170 Trump don't trust China China is as HoH would resist 2685 02:37:07,290 --> 02:37:13,380 Unknown: we much we must bear all giddy about a shutdown the 2686 02:37:13,380 --> 02:37:19,410 tortoise in the race then co author of who briefs you to lead 2687 02:37:19,410 --> 02:37:26,970 singer Bono friend dry ships. We suspect Jaha Sanaya of Rush 2688 02:37:26,970 --> 02:37:31,890 Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh the show rush Lombard 2689 02:37:31,890 --> 02:37:35,280 hosts Supreme Court Justice Sonia Santa Maya, 2690 02:37:35,310 --> 02:37:36,990 you've got karma. 2691 02:37:39,660 --> 02:37:44,730 Adam Curry: Adam Ruiz is planning on moving back to the 2692 02:37:44,730 --> 02:37:48,690 US after living in China for the last five years. And he comes in 2693 02:37:48,690 --> 02:37:52,410 with 333 We appreciate that it says that need some jobs karma 2694 02:37:52,620 --> 02:37:55,800 for my smokin hot wife. I also turned 33 A few months ago, so I 2695 02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:58,740 thought it'd be appropriate to donate 333 Thank you, Adam and 2696 02:37:58,740 --> 02:38:02,280 John. Well, we are very happy and we appreciate your support 2697 02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:03,120 jobs, 2698 02:38:03,270 --> 02:38:04,170 Unknown: jobs, 2699 02:38:04,290 --> 02:38:07,470 jobs and jobs for jobs. 2700 02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:15,960 John C Dvorak: Put Adam Ruiz on the birthday list. Billy Graham 2701 02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:19,110 I'll add him there. He doesn't ask for it but nobody deserves 2702 02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:22,620 here Billy Graham and Fort Myers, Florida has 2361 When 2703 02:38:22,620 --> 02:38:24,900 she's the first Associate Executive Producer he has no 2704 02:38:24,900 --> 02:38:28,350 note that I can find so on to give her a double up karma. 2705 02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:33,810 Unknown: You've got karma 2706 02:38:35,250 --> 02:38:39,090 Adam Curry: and then we have sir OMA with to this is our second 2707 02:38:39,090 --> 02:38:43,560 Associate Executive Producer to 28 dot 24 ITM gents. requesting 2708 02:38:43,560 --> 02:38:47,250 some prayers you bet health karma and a heavy dose of F 2709 02:38:47,250 --> 02:38:51,150 cancer for my brother in law. He has a rare form of cancer in his 2710 02:38:51,180 --> 02:38:55,890 abdomen and will have four lumps removed on February 28 24 will 2711 02:38:55,890 --> 02:38:58,620 put them on the prayer chain he's strong and a fighter but 2712 02:38:58,620 --> 02:39:01,560 has a long road to recovery and treatment cheers and blessing 2713 02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:02,700 Sir Oh my You Bet 2714 02:39:07,230 --> 02:39:08,910 Unknown: you've got karma 2715 02:39:13,380 --> 02:39:15,390 John C Dvorak: I'm going to skip this next one which you will 2716 02:39:15,390 --> 02:39:19,140 read in an hour go to Linda Lou patcon and Lakewood Colorado 2717 02:39:19,140 --> 02:39:24,720 because she wants me to read her jobs karma for $200 and just 2718 02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:28,020 comment for a competitive edge Go to Image makers inc.com For 2719 02:39:28,020 --> 02:39:30,630 all your executive resume and job search needs that's image 2720 02:39:30,630 --> 02:39:33,990 makers Inc with the k.com or just find Linda Lou Patrick and 2721 02:39:33,990 --> 02:39:37,950 Duchess of jobs writer of resumes on the producer list 2722 02:39:37,980 --> 02:39:38,730 Yes, 2723 02:39:38,910 --> 02:39:43,410 Adam Curry: and we have the Indy no agenda tribal meetup 2724 02:39:43,410 --> 02:39:48,900 Greenwood Indiana 225 And it's a switcheroo ITM Adam and John, 2725 02:39:49,500 --> 02:39:52,380 not Dewar from Indianapolis as the winner once again of our 2726 02:39:52,380 --> 02:39:55,770 raffle. I am once again asking for it to be a switcheroo to my 2727 02:39:55,770 --> 02:39:58,800 mom, Stephanie to get her close to Dame hood. Keep up the work 2728 02:39:58,800 --> 02:40:02,760 guys. It's great. work good jingles John's haunted donate 2729 02:40:02,760 --> 02:40:03,960 and a good karma 2730 02:40:14,969 --> 02:40:15,449 Unknown: karma 2731 02:40:17,279 --> 02:40:20,699 Adam Curry: I think I forgot Lindsay Perkins jobs karma jobs 2732 02:40:20,850 --> 02:40:25,080 Unknown: jobs jobs and jobs are jobs 2733 02:40:28,410 --> 02:40:31,800 Adam Curry: that wraps up our no it doesn't that doesn't wrap up 2734 02:40:31,800 --> 02:40:33,300 our executive and Associate Executive 2735 02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:36,780 John C Dvorak: Spangler right in Mount Pleasant Pennsylvania 2736 02:40:36,780 --> 02:40:40,770 camera to under budget right here right. Is ITM some 2737 02:40:40,770 --> 02:40:44,550 millennial job karma has some millennial karma and and I got 2738 02:40:44,580 --> 02:40:47,550 ants. Thank you for occure your courage Kara. 2739 02:40:47,640 --> 02:40:50,340 Adam Curry: All right, well, that'll be our last one then. A 2740 02:40:50,340 --> 02:40:53,730 little bit of ants for you and Millennial karma. 2741 02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:55,350 Unknown: I got ants. 2742 02:41:00,600 --> 02:41:10,320 Adam Curry: Ants you've got karma. Hold on a second. Second, 2743 02:41:10,470 --> 02:41:14,880 I have a feeling. Is there an actual millennial karma jingle? 2744 02:41:14,910 --> 02:41:18,510 I want to make sure I did the right one is that? Am I am 2745 02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:25,350 millennial karma? Yes. Yes, I was right. I think there is 2746 02:41:25,350 --> 02:41:31,950 millennial karma. Yes, here it is. There it is. 2747 02:41:32,850 --> 02:41:33,450 Unknown: God, 2748 02:41:33,780 --> 02:41:37,020 Adam Curry: I'm just telling you. This is millennial karma. 2749 02:41:37,020 --> 02:41:39,570 There you go. That's it. Our Executive Associate Executive 2750 02:41:39,570 --> 02:41:43,950 Producers was quite short list today. In fact, we're gonna hit 2751 02:41:43,950 --> 02:41:47,580 the 50s incredibly quickly. For those who did support us with 2752 02:41:47,580 --> 02:41:51,210 your treasure. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. And wish 2753 02:41:51,210 --> 02:41:53,700 everybody would do this. From time to time, it would really 2754 02:41:53,700 --> 02:41:58,230 help keep the show rolling here. These are real credits these 2755 02:41:58,260 --> 02:42:00,390 executive and Associate Executive producer credits for 2756 02:42:00,390 --> 02:42:04,140 episode 1637. You can use them anywhere that credits are 2757 02:42:04,140 --> 02:42:08,040 recognized, which is LinkedIn, your resume, and of course 2758 02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:12,660 imdb.com where there are over 1000 people now with these 2759 02:42:12,660 --> 02:42:15,390 credits. So thank you very much. And John will take us through to 2760 02:42:15,390 --> 02:42:16,170 the 50s now 2761 02:42:17,130 --> 02:42:18,690 John C Dvorak: yeah, we're gonna start with Diane Clinton in 2762 02:42:18,690 --> 02:42:22,920 Chappaqua. Chappaqua. Is that right Chappaqua chapter that's 2763 02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:28,020 right. Chappaqua, New York. 104. She also wrote a give us a card 2764 02:42:28,020 --> 02:42:33,720 with a note referring to botanic and his calla pigeon wife. 2765 02:42:34,890 --> 02:42:38,160 Really not absolutely sure why, but she also says thanks for the 2766 02:42:38,160 --> 02:42:40,140 plug for her pod. 2767 02:42:40,620 --> 02:42:42,000 Adam Curry: What is her pod? 2768 02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:46,530 John C Dvorak: Gosh, we plugged it or we play Kevin. But not 2769 02:42:46,680 --> 02:42:49,200 today. We plugged it at some point. I don't know what it is 2770 02:42:49,230 --> 02:42:52,530 because she didn't mention it in the card. Kevin McLaughlin is 2771 02:42:52,530 --> 02:42:56,580 right there. Concord North Carolina the Laura. Archduke of 2772 02:42:56,580 --> 02:43:05,610 Luna 8081637 Boob B O boop boop. Not sure what that means. But 2773 02:43:05,610 --> 02:43:10,080 Gary Blatz next from Wayne, Pennsylvania. 7777. Matthew L. 2774 02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:16,770 Ward in Weatherford, Texas. 606, Kurt, Lebanon offski and Ramsey, 2775 02:43:16,770 --> 02:43:20,790 New York. 5904 Peter Charlie 2776 02:43:21,450 --> 02:43:24,000 Adam Curry: Sheen Kurt Kurt has a birthday donation he says the 2777 02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:26,850 longer I live the more you get 56 On the show today and he 2778 02:43:26,850 --> 02:43:29,250 added in the fees we appreciate that Kurt 2779 02:43:30,510 --> 02:43:34,530 John C Dvorak: Peter Chung and Lakewood Washington 5809 Dame 2780 02:43:34,530 --> 02:43:43,950 Nancy San Bruno California 5529. Surprise surprise night Yukon, 2781 02:43:43,980 --> 02:43:48,030 Oklahoma 5444. And we're already with his very shortlist today. 2782 02:43:48,030 --> 02:43:55,620 Very short. ludicrously short. Lack of support, I'd say Allah 2783 02:43:55,620 --> 02:44:00,180 at least the 50s LX Delgado in Aptos, California Clara Perivale 2784 02:44:00,180 --> 02:44:05,010 in San Rafael, gaucho woodworking in Redondo Beach, 2785 02:44:05,220 --> 02:44:08,970 California. look him up on the internet's James Farrell in 2786 02:44:08,970 --> 02:44:13,320 Haverhill, Massachusetts, Michael Romano in Sebastopol, 2787 02:44:13,320 --> 02:44:16,620 California, Brian Hummel, in Wimberley, Texas Samuel Connor 2788 02:44:16,620 --> 02:44:20,910 de in North Riverside Illinois Charles Boyd in San Marcos, 2789 02:44:20,910 --> 02:44:25,560 Texas, fail line a farm in Columbus, Georgia Amy growling 2790 02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:28,980 bureau in Washington by the airport, John Walter in 2791 02:44:28,980 --> 02:44:32,310 Wenatchee Washington and a bunch of Washingtonians at the end 2792 02:44:32,310 --> 02:44:36,600 here and also Baroness Knight and Baroness Dame night in 2793 02:44:36,600 --> 02:44:39,870 Edmonds. Washington want to thank these people, even though 2794 02:44:39,870 --> 02:44:45,390 there are not too many of them today for making the show a 1637 2795 02:44:45,390 --> 02:44:46,590 a reality 2796 02:44:46,620 --> 02:44:48,960 Adam Curry: and we thank everyone who came in under $50. 2797 02:44:48,960 --> 02:44:51,840 We don't mention those people like it because it's anonymous. 2798 02:44:52,140 --> 02:44:55,410 And of course we love the 4999 Thank you if you're on one of 2799 02:44:55,410 --> 02:44:59,130 your sustaining donations, which means you can make up any 2800 02:44:59,130 --> 02:45:02,460 recurring dough donation that you want to and just continue to 2801 02:45:02,460 --> 02:45:05,640 go on a night or Dame layaway plan. It happens all the time 2802 02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:08,910 that people reach that level. And you always support the show 2803 02:45:08,910 --> 02:45:12,360 certainly in these slower donation times and once again 2804 02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:15,450 thank you to our executive and Associate Executive producers 2805 02:45:15,450 --> 02:45:19,740 for episode 1637. Our formula 2806 02:45:19,740 --> 02:45:23,700 Unknown: is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth 2807 02:45:35,430 --> 02:45:37,320 Adam Curry: and you can become a producer and no watching the 2808 02:45:37,320 --> 02:45:38,790 donations.com 2809 02:45:45,150 --> 02:45:49,530 Well, a very short list today we have Kurt Lebanon offski Who 2810 02:45:49,530 --> 02:45:54,630 turns 56 Today, Vincent viscounty wishes his daughter ao 2811 02:45:54,630 --> 02:45:59,160 fi EO ai fi a happy birthday. She's 13 Please let me know how 2812 02:45:59,160 --> 02:46:01,530 to pronounce your name so we can make good for on the next show 2813 02:46:01,530 --> 02:46:05,580 and Happy belated birthday to Adam Ruiz and congratulations to 2814 02:46:05,580 --> 02:46:11,160 all of you from everybody in the best podcast. Sounds weird all 2815 02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:16,050 of a sudden. What's happened? You hear? Does it sound weird to 2816 02:46:16,050 --> 02:46:17,130 you? Just something changed? I 2817 02:46:17,130 --> 02:46:19,110 John C Dvorak: went over modulated? Yeah. I don't know. 2818 02:46:19,110 --> 02:46:20,880 Why did that happen earlier in the show? 2819 02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:21,660 Adam Curry: Hmm. 2820 02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:23,160 John C Dvorak: Just out of the blue. 2821 02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:26,250 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's very odd. Strange. Something's going 2822 02:46:26,250 --> 02:46:26,520 on. 2823 02:46:26,910 --> 02:46:30,750 John C Dvorak: You're losing a capacitor in that pod thing? 2824 02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:34,950 Adam Curry: I hope not. I hope not. I was very strange and 2825 02:46:34,950 --> 02:46:40,860 wonderfully see. Oh, nice. See what the problem was? Somehow 2826 02:46:40,860 --> 02:46:44,880 the processing got turned off. Yeah, that'll do it. Okay. All 2827 02:46:44,880 --> 02:46:48,780 right. That should fix it. Now. Let me see. We always said we 2828 02:46:48,780 --> 02:46:52,050 have no nice things. No title changes. Just another plea. No 2829 02:46:52,050 --> 02:46:54,960 agenda. donations.com Please support the show. 2830 02:46:55,410 --> 02:47:00,960 Unknown: No one. I like the 2831 02:47:02,940 --> 02:47:03,780 control rooms. 2832 02:47:05,580 --> 02:47:07,380 Adam Curry: The troll room said it was either a glitch or a 2833 02:47:07,380 --> 02:47:12,570 cyber attack. The spook spliced into the audio stream. Yeah, I 2834 02:47:12,570 --> 02:47:16,740 think I think it was all all the above. Hey, Jesse coy Nelson 2835 02:47:16,800 --> 02:47:21,630 came back with a dynamite meetup report from the Singapore meetup 2836 02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:29,640 Unknown: Hey, it's the Singapore no agenda geo Jigsaw meetup. 2837 02:47:29,760 --> 02:47:31,110 This is Sen geo 2838 02:47:31,110 --> 02:47:33,630 Jigsaw we're all having fun here getting blasted. 2839 02:47:34,650 --> 02:47:39,000 Listener Chris listener since 2009. Proud member of the deuces 2840 02:47:39,000 --> 02:47:43,440 club. Probably time I donate again. Thanks so much for coming 2841 02:47:43,440 --> 02:47:47,460 to Singapore. It's nice to have the first meet up here. This is 2842 02:47:47,460 --> 02:47:55,260 Andy. Oh shit I shouldn't have given my last day. Are there any 2843 02:47:55,260 --> 02:47:58,350 more people in Singapore that listens to this? Let us know. 2844 02:47:58,530 --> 02:47:59,100 Let us know. 2845 02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:03,750 This is Anthony Fauci. I came to this meetup because I want to 2846 02:48:03,750 --> 02:48:08,340 see how things are going in Asia with my shots in the morning. 2847 02:48:08,790 --> 02:48:09,690 Nice. 2848 02:48:16,020 --> 02:48:18,810 Adam Curry: Hey, there were people there. Hello, Singapore. 2849 02:48:19,140 --> 02:48:22,920 We need some donations from Singapore 11 out there. We got 2850 02:48:22,920 --> 02:48:26,580 stripe now. So you can use that. Speaking of Anthony Fauci. We 2851 02:48:26,580 --> 02:48:29,100 had dinner with a couple people last night. I love my 2852 02:48:29,100 --> 02:48:33,390 Fredericksburg people. The latest that I heard. Did you 2853 02:48:33,390 --> 02:48:38,220 know that Mother Teresa? That Anthony Fauci is actually, the 2854 02:48:38,220 --> 02:48:43,830 child of Mother Teresa and Mother Teresa is a dude. But you 2855 02:48:43,830 --> 02:48:44,790 didn't know that, did you? 2856 02:48:45,810 --> 02:48:48,270 John C Dvorak: Well, you know, looking at Mother Teresa, I can 2857 02:48:48,270 --> 02:48:51,090 kind of believe the last thing but then again, how could 2858 02:48:51,090 --> 02:48:55,170 Anthony Fauci be the son of Mother Teresa? No Mother 2859 02:48:55,170 --> 02:48:59,040 Adam Curry: Teresa's mother, Teresa fathered Anthony Fauci. 2860 02:49:01,260 --> 02:49:05,430 There was an there's a ghost moved to the right place. I love 2861 02:49:05,430 --> 02:49:09,510 this place. It's fantastic. I also love the guardians of 2862 02:49:09,510 --> 02:49:13,230 reality. They had a meet up in Florence, Kentucky, as Florence 2863 02:49:13,230 --> 02:49:17,160 y'all. Jen of the woodland Shire reported and she says that it 2864 02:49:17,160 --> 02:49:21,210 was great. They had many members of the shrunken amygdala, tre 2865 02:49:21,210 --> 02:49:26,970 Lea, Greg newcomer Michel and it was the topic of discussion 2866 02:49:26,970 --> 02:49:31,380 birthing stories, breastfeeding, doulas home I got trust policy 2867 02:49:31,380 --> 02:49:34,980 for wills carpentry needs on fixed income resources, 2868 02:49:34,980 --> 02:49:38,820 connection solutions, Bitcoin tax law for small business 2869 02:49:38,970 --> 02:49:43,170 religions, specifically Catholic Catholic and orthodoxy books and 2870 02:49:43,170 --> 02:49:47,130 authors. I mean, this is exactly didn't make a report obviously. 2871 02:49:47,130 --> 02:49:50,070 But this is exactly the kinds of stuff you can get into it or no 2872 02:49:50,070 --> 02:49:52,290 agenda meet up and the great thing is, it doesn't matter 2873 02:49:52,290 --> 02:49:54,510 where you're coming from, what angle you're coming from, 2874 02:49:54,510 --> 02:49:58,560 everybody loves each other. It's a great place to get connection 2875 02:49:58,590 --> 02:50:03,150 as you know that what he Do you drink? I'm 2876 02:50:03,150 --> 02:50:04,290 John C Dvorak: not eating anything. 2877 02:50:04,320 --> 02:50:05,790 Adam Curry: Are you drinking something? Do you crack? Uh, 2878 02:50:05,790 --> 02:50:11,280 can? You did? What did you do? What is it? What did you get? 2879 02:50:11,880 --> 02:50:15,210 John C Dvorak: I got the Pellegrino ah, there now let me 2880 02:50:15,210 --> 02:50:20,940 tell you what this is. It's Pellegrino, tangerine and wild 2881 02:50:20,940 --> 02:50:25,680 strawberry, a Sensia. Yum. And it tastes you know, it tastes 2882 02:50:25,680 --> 02:50:29,640 like, like bass like nothing. It tastes like plain unflavored 2883 02:50:29,640 --> 02:50:30,960 mineral water. Well, that's 2884 02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:35,340 Adam Curry: interesting because I always open my show beer. You 2885 02:50:35,340 --> 02:50:40,650 never call me on. But I am drinking a Waterloo, Blackberry 2886 02:50:40,650 --> 02:50:44,550 lemonade, and it tastes just like your thing. There's no 2887 02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:47,130 taste to this. He really should 2888 02:50:47,130 --> 02:50:49,470 John C Dvorak: have Blackberry. No, it tastes like mineral 2889 02:50:49,470 --> 02:50:50,970 strong flavored Berry. 2890 02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:54,570 Adam Curry: It tastes like mineral water. It really does. 2891 02:50:54,570 --> 02:50:55,380 It's like they forgot 2892 02:50:56,130 --> 02:50:57,810 John C Dvorak: they're just packing mineral I'm putting 2893 02:50:57,930 --> 02:50:59,820 phony baloney labels on everything. 2894 02:51:01,470 --> 02:51:03,270 Adam Curry: Hey, no agenda meetup.com 2895 02:51:04,170 --> 02:51:08,580 Unknown: Sometimes you want to go hang out with Dyson. 2896 02:51:09,960 --> 02:51:11,430 Adam Curry: No, I forgot some here. You 2897 02:51:12,690 --> 02:51:16,680 Unknown: won't be cheap. You 2898 02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:22,440 Adam Curry: I forgot to mention the meetups taking place on 2899 02:51:22,530 --> 02:51:26,490 Thursday, which is the North Georgia monthly meetup that'll 2900 02:51:26,490 --> 02:51:28,830 be at six o'clock at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta, 2901 02:51:28,830 --> 02:51:32,730 Georgia and also on Thursday the Denver leap here day meet up 630 2902 02:51:32,910 --> 02:51:36,960 bar 404 in Denver Colorado there's a whole lot for March 2903 02:51:36,990 --> 02:51:40,950 April. You definitely need to go to one of these you wouldn't you 2904 02:51:40,980 --> 02:51:44,550 there's no regretting going to a no agenda meetup. Prove me 2905 02:51:44,550 --> 02:51:55,770 wrong. No agenda meetups.com And now once again, this heavy news 2906 02:51:57,870 --> 02:52:02,280 we'll see everybody we'd like to end our show particularly where 2907 02:52:02,280 --> 02:52:10,380 we had credible ISOs. Want I'm completely off track here. 2908 02:52:11,490 --> 02:52:14,460 You're right. Yes. Okay. But you know, instead of saying when you 2909 02:52:14,460 --> 02:52:18,360 when you esos ASA you could have said Hey, you forgot the ISOs 2910 02:52:18,390 --> 02:52:18,630 Hey, I 2911 02:52:18,630 --> 02:52:20,430 John C Dvorak: forgot the ISO so thanks. 2912 02:52:20,460 --> 02:52:23,820 Adam Curry: Well, here's my ISO Oh, my lever. That's my only ISO 2913 02:52:23,850 --> 02:52:24,270 that's 2914 02:52:24,270 --> 02:52:25,440 John C Dvorak: probably why. 2915 02:52:28,350 --> 02:52:32,040 Adam Curry: Okay, what do you have ISO wise John sounds like 2916 02:52:32,040 --> 02:52:33,690 you got some really good ones. 2917 02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:38,070 John C Dvorak: They have three. Okay. Dynamite dynamite 2918 02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:40,950 Adam Curry: alive. That's, that's pretty good. That's 2919 02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:41,730 pretty good. You've 2920 02:52:41,730 --> 02:52:43,530 John C Dvorak: heard that wouldn't be fair. Yeah, that's 2921 02:52:43,560 --> 02:52:45,360 like GABA. Hashtag hashtag 2922 02:52:45,360 --> 02:52:48,930 Adam Curry: no agenda. It's too late. 2923 02:52:49,140 --> 02:52:50,160 John C Dvorak: Okay, thank you. 2924 02:52:50,190 --> 02:52:52,890 Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No, I 2925 02:52:52,890 --> 02:52:56,670 think dynamite dynamite dynamite is the one that really Yes, I 2926 02:52:56,670 --> 02:52:58,140 like dynamite. You don't like dynamite? 2927 02:52:58,560 --> 02:53:01,200 John C Dvorak: No, I mean, I didn't dislike it but I thought 2928 02:53:01,200 --> 02:53:05,070 you'd pick the Thank You know, I have a betting pool on what you 2929 02:53:05,070 --> 02:53:05,550 pick 2930 02:53:06,360 --> 02:53:07,110 Adam Curry: for money. 2931 02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:08,370 John C Dvorak: I lost 2932 02:53:09,840 --> 02:53:12,450 Adam Curry: Who do you who was in the pool? Who are these nut 2933 02:53:12,450 --> 02:53:13,020 jobs? 2934 02:53:13,290 --> 02:53:14,910 John C Dvorak: And I can't say they won't they don't want their 2935 02:53:14,910 --> 02:53:15,810 names revealed? 2936 02:53:16,380 --> 02:53:18,510 Adam Curry: The lip Joe's the lip Joe's are listening. Yeah. 2937 02:53:18,510 --> 02:53:19,740 Lip Joes. Those guys 2938 02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:20,790 John C Dvorak: have stopped talking to me. 2939 02:53:22,080 --> 02:53:23,280 Unknown: Good good news. 2940 02:53:23,460 --> 02:53:26,520 Adam Curry: Good news. Good. Good news. Good news. All right. 2941 02:53:26,520 --> 02:53:29,370 Good news. Good news. Here we go. I'm sorry. I jumped the gun 2942 02:53:29,370 --> 02:53:33,030 on Yeah, just ever since that glitch. I was confused either. 2943 02:53:33,210 --> 02:53:35,760 John C Dvorak: Yes, the glitch, the glitch net which makes me 2944 02:53:35,760 --> 02:53:44,430 wonder if you're a i This is another not the same but a 2945 02:53:44,430 --> 02:53:47,910 different this is a dog rescue story from your neck of the 2946 02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:51,420 woods, Texas, Texas, Texas puppy 2947 02:53:51,420 --> 02:53:53,850 Unknown: love this morning on Good Morning El Paso or we 2948 02:53:53,850 --> 02:53:56,640 introduce you to a mother and her litter of pups that would 2949 02:53:56,640 --> 02:53:59,970 not have lived for us to tell this story. If it weren't for a 2950 02:53:59,970 --> 02:54:00,930 good Samaritan 2951 02:54:02,430 --> 02:54:06,510 got a call from a young lady that works by the for Border 2952 02:54:06,510 --> 02:54:09,600 Patrol out there and said that people are always dumping 2953 02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:12,900 animals out there and this is the second mama that they took 2954 02:54:12,900 --> 02:54:16,380 pictures of and sent to me and asked if I could help because 2955 02:54:16,380 --> 02:54:19,890 she was about ready to pop I mean she was so huge from having 2956 02:54:19,890 --> 02:54:21,690 so many puppies, nine 2957 02:54:21,690 --> 02:54:25,380 puppies to be exact and they are cuties. But Mama was in such bad 2958 02:54:25,380 --> 02:54:28,110 shape from being neglected and going without food and water for 2959 02:54:28,110 --> 02:54:31,770 so long. She had complications giving birth she had to have a C 2960 02:54:31,770 --> 02:54:34,830 section. So now to help her recover and to give her babies 2961 02:54:34,830 --> 02:54:37,320 the best chance at a healthy start there. Those babies are 2962 02:54:37,320 --> 02:54:39,630 now bottle fed every few hours. 2963 02:54:40,740 --> 02:54:44,340 This is truly a happy ending because she definitely wouldn't 2964 02:54:44,340 --> 02:54:47,730 have made it out there in the desert in the dirt and the 2965 02:54:47,730 --> 02:54:50,280 puppies wouldn't have made it either. They you know there's a 2966 02:54:50,280 --> 02:54:53,700 lot of coyotes and things going on so they would have probably 2967 02:54:53,730 --> 02:54:56,280 she might have been able to save one or two she's gonna go to a 2968 02:54:56,280 --> 02:55:00,000 forever home and to know that her babies are well taken care 2969 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,270 drove. I think we did good. Like 6k I 2970 02:55:03,270 --> 02:55:06,120 think they all did good. Thanks to Animal Rescue League, these 2971 02:55:06,120 --> 02:55:08,430 little guys can now be adopted. And by the way, there's another 2972 02:55:08,430 --> 02:55:11,010 mama dog she mentioned at the beginning of that piece who was 2973 02:55:11,010 --> 02:55:14,670 saved with a very similar story. So double the puppies, if you're 2974 02:55:14,670 --> 02:55:17,310 looking to adopt a furry family member of your own, because a 2975 02:55:17,310 --> 02:55:19,680 lot of people do want a puppy and there's nothing wrong with 2976 02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:21,870 wanting a puppy and now there are plenty to choose from and 2977 02:55:21,870 --> 02:55:22,560 who can say no to 2978 02:55:22,560 --> 02:55:25,590 those adorable faces? Right? I will say I have four dogs at 2979 02:55:25,590 --> 02:55:28,650 home trying to rescue two cats. Everyone can just take it 2980 02:55:28,650 --> 02:55:29,340 another dog. 2981 02:55:29,700 --> 02:55:33,930 Adam Curry: No, no, not everyone can just take it another dog. 2982 02:55:33,930 --> 02:55:39,540 But, John, a great good news story. I feel good. Like I feel 2983 02:55:39,540 --> 02:55:40,710 very positive now. 2984 02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:49,590 Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. 2985 02:55:50,190 --> 02:55:53,100 Adam Curry: Everybody should feel good after that. How could 2986 02:55:53,100 --> 02:55:53,670 you not? 2987 02:55:54,330 --> 02:55:57,120 John C Dvorak: It's just dying puppies rescued is 2988 02:55:57,120 --> 02:56:02,100 Adam Curry: just good. It's just all good. I'm ready. Now I'm 2989 02:56:02,130 --> 02:56:06,480 ready to complete my Sunday. With that feeling of good news, 2990 02:56:06,570 --> 02:56:13,380 it really counterbalances the creepy moms. vetoing those 2991 02:56:13,380 --> 02:56:18,690 stories can't do that anymore. We have some end of show mixes 2992 02:56:18,690 --> 02:56:21,690 we got the clip custodian Neal Jones himself kicking it off, 2993 02:56:21,690 --> 02:56:25,050 followed by Professor J. Jones from China and Phantom Ville, 2994 02:56:25,290 --> 02:56:31,140 all brand new all fresh all the time. And after this program 2995 02:56:31,140 --> 02:56:34,110 ends, you will be seamlessly switched over to behind the 2996 02:56:34,110 --> 02:56:39,420 schemes with blueberry and lavish. So just keep listening 2997 02:56:39,420 --> 02:56:44,340 in your modern podcast app or at troll room.io And please 2998 02:56:44,340 --> 02:56:50,040 remember us at no agenda donations.com and I'm coming to 2999 02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:53,070 you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region 3000 02:56:53,070 --> 02:56:57,420 number six. I would like to say I'm Adam curry in the morning 3001 02:56:57,420 --> 02:56:57,600 from 3002 02:56:57,600 --> 02:56:59,820 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where we're still wishing 3003 02:56:59,820 --> 02:57:02,790 you a Happy Chinese New Year. I'm John C. Dvorak we return 3004 02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:05,670 Adam Curry: on Thursday right here on no agenda please join us 3005 02:57:05,670 --> 02:57:08,970 remember set no agenda donations.com Till then adios 3006 02:57:08,970 --> 02:57:13,110 mofos Hui Hui, and such I 3007 02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:20,970 Unknown: love they did they call them dumps. big massive dump. 3008 02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:23,790 We will follow them to the gates and house. 3009 02:57:25,500 --> 02:57:37,410 Adam Curry: Mom Bom Bom Bom. Bom Bom them and Bom them again. 3010 02:57:41,880 --> 02:57:45,930 Hillary Clinton made a mistake to red carpet event beautiful 3011 02:57:45,930 --> 02:57:50,130 blond haired, very fashionable clothes. Well, she forgot that 3012 02:57:50,130 --> 02:57:54,570 people hate her guts who could be more evil than Putin. 3013 02:57:54,660 --> 02:57:57,330 Unknown: Hillary Clinton. How dare you speak about human 3014 02:57:57,330 --> 02:58:00,300 rights where Palestinians are being murdered? 3015 02:58:00,840 --> 02:58:05,490 People are suffering. People are dying you are a war criminal. 3016 02:58:05,760 --> 02:58:06,870 How dare you 3017 02:58:10,710 --> 02:58:14,880 yourself it is not shameful to do little bit crass It is 3018 02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:17,100 shameful to do nothing but 3019 02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:19,830 Adam Curry: maybe Clinton killer Clinton that they should do 3020 02:58:19,830 --> 02:58:22,860 something they need to work on that did more of this please 3021 02:58:22,890 --> 02:58:31,560 John C Dvorak: you're in the Middle East Libya and fit into 3022 02:58:31,560 --> 02:58:34,410 the scheme of things based on what she just said what 3023 02:58:34,500 --> 02:58:38,610 difference at this point doesn't make to Simulink so rigged 3024 02:58:39,390 --> 02:58:42,360 Adam Curry: and I'm all for this keep yelling at all of them. 3025 02:58:43,140 --> 02:58:45,300 Unknown: How dare you continue to look away? 3026 02:58:45,390 --> 02:58:48,000 Adam Curry: She's great she she's recognizable 3027 02:58:54,360 --> 02:58:56,760 all the leaks of the world including those who were in the 3028 02:58:56,760 --> 02:58:59,640 war business. I think get bed curry There you go. 3029 02:59:02,010 --> 02:59:05,610 Unknown: Curry Curry was 3030 02:59:11,580 --> 02:59:16,500 Adam Curry: more of this please. You're to cinema for Peace 3031 02:59:16,500 --> 02:59:17,190 Foundation. 3032 02:59:17,850 --> 02:59:20,550 Unknown: Hillary Clinton How dare you speak about human 3033 02:59:20,550 --> 02:59:26,490 rights. Palestinians are being murdered. There it is. 3034 02:59:34,740 --> 02:59:37,620 Morning from Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk has nothing to do with 3035 02:59:37,620 --> 02:59:41,340 cars then must warn about artificial intelligence which he 3036 02:59:41,340 --> 02:59:45,780 has called more dangerous than nuclear weapons. Computer 3037 02:59:46,200 --> 02:59:50,730 Adam Curry: computer working working with artificial 3038 02:59:50,730 --> 02:59:56,760 intelligence. Stories were working as the guy with the 3039 02:59:56,760 --> 03:00:03,540 pentagram and holy water was like working work. gain control 3040 03:00:06,750 --> 03:00:20,070 for bio computer things in credit can be nailed naming 3041 03:00:20,070 --> 03:00:20,460 rights 3042 03:00:27,690 --> 03:00:32,280 Unknown: can be worth 3043 03:00:41,700 --> 03:00:44,760 are you concerned that of the our new woke AI that we're 3044 03:00:45,750 --> 03:00:49,740 writing history and maybe even wonder rewriting reality 3045 03:00:50,310 --> 03:00:55,350 Adam Curry: they're they're laughing up this AI crap when 3046 03:00:55,350 --> 03:00:57,870 they Your enemy is 3047 03:00:57,870 --> 03:00:58,710 Unknown: big tech 3048 03:01:02,220 --> 03:01:05,310 they're amazing companies they call for over half of the gains 3049 03:01:05,310 --> 03:01:10,200 from the get rich off these companies these folks at Google 3050 03:01:10,470 --> 03:01:13,950 and other other technology companies are kind of distorting 3051 03:01:14,160 --> 03:01:14,700 history 3052 03:01:20,310 --> 03:01:23,730 is trying to shape society 3053 03:01:36,120 --> 03:01:42,690 boruch.org/in a guide on why