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John C Dvorak: Okay, pitcher
tense here. Adam curry

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Adam Curry: Jhansi Dvorak April
28 2024 This Year Award Winning

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Combination media assassination
episode 1655. This is no agenda

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foraging for fragments. The
first clue and broadcasting live

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from the heartland times is no
country here in FEMA Region

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where the

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correspondents dinner looks like
it's on its last legs. I'm John

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C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. I didn't
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on until 1030 Last night. Why
would you? Use I got I clipped

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some stuff from it.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, I got one I
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it says. No, I didn't even get
any clips. I didn't see is this

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it's the clip is called core
dinner. Comic two. Oh,

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Adam Curry: is this is this? Is
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John C Dvorak: No, it is just
the go no, go No. main

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Adam Curry: guy. Good because I
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, he
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because I was first I start from
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Adam Curry: got thrown out. Is
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John C Dvorak: got thrown out?
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you have the whole Biden bit?
Well, you're not gonna play the

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whole Biden. No, six minutes.
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a roast if Biden did a kind of a
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Adam Curry: why I clip the
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John C Dvorak: violation of all
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Adam Curry: The whole thing was
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the nerd ball. And this is where
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together with their Hollywood
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together and they laugh about
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basically the whole thing and
then Kamala Harris sat next to

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some guy who came right out of
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turned out to be a political
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John C Dvorak: going you're
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Adam Curry: happening here. It's
it You're right. I think this

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was last legs for this thing. It
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last gasp gasp Yeah. Yeah. I
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forever, but people are tuning
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John C Dvorak: Well, it was
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pretty bad. Kelly O'Donnell
who's the new achieve muckety

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Adam Curry: who was very
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John C Dvorak: watching her
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book, she comes up high on the
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pages. That girl who's been a
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years. She's the head of the
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which is not as minor operation.
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It's missing everything. It's
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this? Why is it telling us that?
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Adam Curry: Well, that's left. I
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I mean, literally former CIA,
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and I mean, why not? Might as
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other. That's what it's all
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industrial depth. Sorry, the
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and gas control. That's all
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why not? We might as well do
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John C Dvorak: To nothing was
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however you pronounce his name
Joe's toast. He was bombing

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Adam Curry: also came out. There
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oh, we're just stupid, man. Our
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John C Dvorak: a good point.
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Adam Curry: married Scarlett
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clearly, you know, the true star
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like, what what does that word
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It's like feminization almost,
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John C Dvorak: deep to where
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Adam Curry: Doug Doug's second
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commoner as the got the winter
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Everyone. All women are better
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was. Yes. Pathetic. Alright,
let's play joste Fox News.

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John C Dvorak: This is man. This
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Nothing Not much of a response
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whole audience was dead as a
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mic a little bit so you can hear
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Adam Curry: it's because most of
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John C Dvorak: was kind of
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well, which bombed it bomb too.
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with the fact that the Democrats
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write comedy or stand up style
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probably the funniest of the
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brought in something you always
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thought it was at least
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the tone of the whole event. Fox

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Unknown: News is here tonight.
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Murdoch stepped down at Fox
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think there was a step down from
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Trump media. Not at a table just
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to no one. Wordle is here
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the New York Times. I forgot
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puzzles. To say it's not a great
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a print media company alive are
games people play on their

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phones. To chilling for you
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the
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embarrassing for everybody. It's
gotten so bad, John, the people

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don't even want to listen to our
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mainstream media clips. Yeah,
I'm telling you. I'm telling

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you. Oh, it's like a cancer.
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here. I saw the donations come
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Short show everybody short,
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John C Dvorak: sheath short
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show night when it's I want to
also throw out my condolences to

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now Yes. cast her and her
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Brian. Brian hoganson. He was
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cancer, some sort of weird
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passed away just before we
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received as knighting ring as
sad day for the show. Yeah. And

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we're stuck. We're Brian was a
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Texas. You may have met him. I
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Adam Curry: Now. He's not
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sure. Come on, everybody.
Suppose to lighten the mood a

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little bit. But also, I don't
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must be right over some kind of
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I'm getting flack from both
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semitism, they're there. They're
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this to the Jews and ever. I
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at me. And then on the other
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threatening you and your family.
That's why you're lying. You're

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wirelessly doing all this.
You're purposely saying that

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America controls Israel and
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all know, we all know the
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John C Dvorak: I get it. I get a
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your user when they're brought
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the intimidation of Jewish
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by mostly the right wing media.
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because I had didn't dive into
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Adam Curry: got more common.
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with something that was amazing
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long memory for certain things.
You haven't you have them you

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skip over a period and you have
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one goes back to the days when
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using blackberries. Okay, the
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couple of years. This is still
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Twitter was kind of there. You
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very, very early days. And now
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itself. The flotilla is

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Unknown: back, the odd thinness
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aid to Gaza, including medical
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humanitarian groups. They say
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Gaza. They want Israel to allow
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we hope to break the illegal
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Israel has had on it for
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certainly bring food medicines
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Gaza. It's a small drop in the
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the border of Rafah to be opened
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14 years since 14 organizers
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blockade. Last time Israeli
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Marmara, the vessel leading the
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10 people, activists say they
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face, but say the risk is worth
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the humanitarian crisis so it
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Adam Curry: there it 14 years
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happened they had the Freedom
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didn't have social media the way
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almost like a non of it was it
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ship, and there were some
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John C Dvorak: Nice. So I got a
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Adam Curry: will I don't want to
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not having at least discussed
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to
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right now. Yes. So let's get it
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Adam Curry: here's what I'm
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is getting a little bit too cozy
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seems to be like a pre emptive
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from people on board that I
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they set sail to break the
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you know, it's like, they set
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to get. Exactly. So we're
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over again, if you listen to
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pipelines all about oil is all
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same thing but no, no, no, oh,
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got to stop the anti semitism
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by the way, when someone says, I
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fine, call it anti semitism.
It's also free speech. And

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that's ending. They've played
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because now we got the
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here's Robert Cohen, Professor
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Unknown: you have the donors,
threatening them, Congress

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threatening them. So there's a
lot of pressure, they could lose

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their job as the president of
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of what's seen as in
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know, policing of these
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could lose their job. And what's
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who's going to protect free
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the college and university
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pressure, and are afraid, given
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demonstrations, which are
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sympathizers and anti semitism,
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demonstrations to be suppressed?
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incidents. And I'm Jewish, I was
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Adam Curry: I only have two more
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legislation, which is an
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house is going to be taking up
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acts of harassment. The
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homeland of Israel, and also
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will move along with this house
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address. And he said also that
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federal funding if they can't
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John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop.
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reasons donations is down
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Adam Curry: Thank you. Oh, wow,
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Adam Curry: MSNBC went into a
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piece of legislation from my
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the Senate, led by Jackie rose,
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Jewish women to serve in the
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symbolic meaning for her. But
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person essentially a strategic
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anti semitism is the highest
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to a new Pew Research poll from
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John C Dvorak: up by the way,
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mainstream media now it's the
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get arrested, you get arrested
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John C Dvorak: in England, and
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Adam Curry: everybody's all
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yeah, meanwhile, Mike Johnson
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John C Dvorak: And we're all
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Adam Curry: and they're
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actually shut down your speech.
And no one is standing up and

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going out. Hold on a second. No,
I have the right to say whatever

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I want about an Arab, a Jew, a
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country. And we're letting it
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oh, they're Zionist. A horrible
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bad. Go ahead. Go ahead. Hey,
listen. Look, Tina. Tina can

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take her Social Security in two
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I'm good. I'm good. I want to
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John C Dvorak: You go that was
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Adam Curry: thanks. Let me see.
Steady Oh, it's super pathetic.

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John C Dvorak: he's you know,
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that correspondents dinner,
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out it was it's been taken over
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it's not funny because of all
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qualms with the intelligence
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what they're up to. But they're
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Adam Curry: and not good at
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John C Dvorak: funny guys. And
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correspondents dinner and
there's nothing funny going on

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and material that was written
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the only way to put it chicken
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like it was but it was also
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will be doing the fart farting
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thinking about that I was going
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realized one of the things
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disappeared in the, I guess,
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administration when when
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College Humor magazines have all
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joke editor for the California
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Pelican went out of business in
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things you did as the joke
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other college magazines and
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yours. And it was just basically
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remember a number of jokes I
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left. I mean, they Harvard
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one, and it became kind of semi.
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Adam Curry: we have, we have not
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John C Dvorak: that's left. Yet
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Adam Curry: Now, but listen to
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argument, even though it was
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base resources, who controls
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2010. What happened in 2011? I
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laws. Remember the bullying
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Bullying? Well, we had to have a
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in the nation, Governor Dayton,
the task force to recommend

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changes witnesses,

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children in Minnesota are being
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harassment, a form of emotional
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people in authority are not
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that acting upon it. It's just
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Minnesota and that it's it's
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executive order forms a
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people, including the
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public safety. It's to make its
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no later than next August 1. But
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engaging kids themselves at the
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the PACER Center in Bloomington
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one reasons kids don't report
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afraid there'll be next.

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Adam Curry: If you look at our
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That was from 2011. This this is
how they do it. It's a repeat of

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history a repeat. And as
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learn from history are doomed
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we go. Here we go. So but now
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interesting, particularly since
the President can determine any

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app that is yours for an
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Illegal or non legal traffic can
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to the FCC vote. Everything is
going to be monitored as they do

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John C Dvorak: think I do I have
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Adam Curry: thing we talked
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know. We're voting. Voting on it
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John C Dvorak: neutrality is
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internet for all after it voted
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over internet service providers
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essential service. This
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era Net Neutrality rules that
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Trump. Net Neutrality means
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and 18 t can't deliberately slow
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customers. There's no pay to
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favoritism for certain content,
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from services such as Netflix or
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expected to sue the FCC. They
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overreach and try to solve a
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Adam Curry: yeah, don't worry.
They're going to solve problems.

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They're going to block Tor exit
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John C Dvorak: I like to, I like
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fast. way not safe and effective
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Adam Curry: want safe this safe.

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John C Dvorak: What does that
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Adam Curry: no pesky podcasts.
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will be the last to go. Because
you know we we've decentralized

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that enough, but you know
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be safe like AOL. AOL was safe,
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TRT Turkish radio, television
anywhere already had a

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reasonable overview of what are
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protests part two, which are now
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in for different means and they
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speech in the UK anymore.
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tamp that down with the digital
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already screwed if you want to
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freedom. Students solidarity has
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University. Despite police
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Selena how Shahabi camped out
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negotiations with the university

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she W's response
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Adam Curry: love these kids
who've been screened who've been

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chanting so much that their
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administration's responses, they

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kind of just want us out. It's
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police trying to barricade us
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seven students and said they
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students. They just want to kick
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
This this is here it is. Get

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your pronouns ready, lady,
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conscience of the country.
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They're the moral barometer.
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led protests. Quickly in the
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springing up dozens of
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follow a common theme for an
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for institutions like this one,
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supporting Israel, the
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the bloodshed. However, hundreds
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insane. I just saw police use

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unnecessary violence for
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Adam Curry: ground. For me
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here until our demands are met.
Or they're going to have to drag

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me out of here. That guy who
just heard there, he's 30 years

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old. These people are not all
college students. This is

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completely fabricated. Again,
you've got all the green tents,

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you've even got lawyers walking
around with green baseball caps,

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the green stuff, so green, there
was

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John C Dvorak: a discussion I
didn't I I thought about

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clipping it, but I didn't it was
on PBS. And it was a couple of

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professors going back and forth
about how people are handling

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this. And it was noted that the
old pros like University of

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California, Berkeley, okay,
pitcher tents here, just don't

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get in the way. You can stay
here as long as you want. And

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they didn't bring any cops in or
if this was just a bunch of

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idiots sleeping in tents,

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Adam Curry: privileged,
privileged idiots

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John C Dvorak: privilege is a
privilege, I stepped into the

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tank. And so meanwhile, in
Colombia and other places where

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they bring in the police, it it
goes bad, it goes sour, because

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but you know, at Berkeley,
they've understood this, because

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they have experienced it goes
back on this, you don't do that.

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And when they have when it goes
south like it does in Colombia,

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all these outsiders come in,
because that's where the action

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is. And it just makes it worse.
But these are the inexperienced,

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and they attributed it to middle
management and upper management

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at schools that have no
experience with student protests

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whatsoever. And they just they
will, they're bound to screw it

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up and make a mess. Tell us
what's going on.

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Adam Curry: So here's the so
it's Black Lives Matter the same

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people. And this is the BDS
crowd. So boycott, divest, and

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sanction. They all want the oil
you know, like universities of

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course I mean that actually
educating anybody there

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investing in in companies
apparently. So go you've got to

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divest from all your
investments. If it wasn't in in

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oil companies now it can't be in
a guest defense companies. I

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don't know what what other
industry does Israel have? And

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then oh, you know what, let's
bring out Angela Davis,

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Unknown: renowned civil rights
activist professor and author

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Angela Davis surprising those
sticking out on Tivoli claw.

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They say you shouldn't meet your
heroes but like she lived up to

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it. Davis emphasizing

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what this means for history. You

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will be the historical actors

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who made it possible. A
breakthrough in the struggle

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against Zionism

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despite the wet weather
protesters to occupy the lawn

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and plan to sleep here
overnight.

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I'm not a politician. I don't
have all the answers. But I do

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have the passion in the world to
try and get our politicians to

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do their job demanding

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full transparency from CU.

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John C Dvorak: But where was
this word? Angela Davis show up.

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She's from the Bay Area as far
as I know,

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Adam Curry: Denver. Denver's our
she went to

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John C Dvorak: and let's
remember it Angela Davis is a

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out and out. Marks. Communist.
Yes, of course.

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Adam Curry: But this is what she
says and it's in you know, and

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then the cops are brought in and
oh, you know, the cops all cops

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are bastards. They're horrible.
It's where the Briggs pigs were

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the bricks bring out the bricks,
we're gonna throw some bricks up

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Unknown: demanding full
transparency from CU about the

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school's financial investments.
Joining hundreds of other campus

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protests across the country
demanding change

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protests is the peaceful
defiance of unjust rules. And if

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we pay a real to send him a
script,

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Adam Curry: I love this lady,
and we're being real and then

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she puts her phone down. This
isn't in my script. Because

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00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:06,750
she's an actress and if we can
reel the scene in my script, and

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00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:12,990
lucky when Bernie damn lucky Oh,
they're lucky when I burned up.

510
00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:17,730
Now in London, little different.
The organizers there are all

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members of the Labour Party and
they want to have elections. I

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have

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Unknown: not seen anything like
this is absolutely incredible on

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several fronts in coming after
seven months, and we haven't

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seen the numbers dwindle. And
this has been spreading outside

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London.

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Today marks the 13th national
demonstration for Palestine. But

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10s of 1000s of back on the
streets of the capital from all

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over the country. All

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Adam Curry: these people that
guy heard in the beginning and

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the next speaker, all Labour
Party members and they've got

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professional signs world Workers
Party Socialist Party, it's this

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is a political move they're
making here.

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Unknown: But the political
pressure is mounting from all

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sides. This movement is facing
increasing propaganda against

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it. The British Zionist lobby
say marches like this one are

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anti semitic. However, the
British Jewish community leaders

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hand individuals on these very
marches say, this isn't about

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religion. It's about humanity.

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We're opening the Jewish we're
on the march. We're calling for

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ceasefire. Now, Jews are not
under threat. People who defend

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genocide will be criticized for
what's going on in Gaza is a

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stain on humanity. And we all
must raise our voices to see it

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ended as soon as possible.

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As the death toll soars to more
than 34,000. In Gaza. It's

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business as usual for ourselves
from the UK to Israel. The UK

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00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:46,590
government is now facing a legal
challenge, as many points to

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00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:48,900
possible breaches of
international law.

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Adam Curry: You go arms sales,
of course, and then more

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00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:56,220
political strife, more protests.
I don't know. It's still in the

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Red Book. I'm on the fence
again, a sea

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Unknown: of white and blue flags
on the streets of Tel Aviv.

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1000s of Israelis, demanding
that the government bring their

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compatriots home. After almost
seven months of war, and with no

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hostage deal in sight. Many are
turning their fury on Prime

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Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and
his right wing government.

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Families

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of the hostages were gathered to
call upon the Cabinet members

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get out of government if you
can't secure the hostage deal.

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Now.

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This is job number one of the
Government of Israel job number

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one and they failed
dramatically. They should go all

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the government's all the 64
members. This

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protest was further inflamed by
a video released by Hamas that

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appeared to show two hostages
taken during the October 7

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terror attack. Netanyahu and his
government insists that securing

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the release of all hostages is
their top priority. But many are

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00:33:57,690 --> 00:34:01,320
losing faith that Israeli
leaders are really doing all

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that they can I want for
elections

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to be held. Not in a year or
two. But

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right now as soon as possible. I
want all the hostages back

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because I can see the government
does not want them back. They

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want to make this war go as long
as possible.

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We've been terrorized by our
government by our leadership.

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For more than six months. They
haven't been doing whatever they

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needed to do.

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Hamas considers Israel's latest
proposal for a ceasefire in

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Gaza. negotiators have hinted
that a hostage deal might be

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close. So

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Adam Curry: that's Deutsche
valor. So our intelligence

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services so you're like oh,
let's put BB under a little bit

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00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:45,659
of pressure there. BB BB it
better and better get something

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going on.

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John C Dvorak: I guess what's
that? I say when I'm gonna move

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along. And so things are by the
way, I should mention that you

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brought in the UK that my one of
our one of the friends of the

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show. Do

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Adam Curry: we have Have friends
left if we guess

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John C Dvorak: he wants to make
me let it be known that the

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Labour is going to totally kick
ass in the next elections so I

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believe it take over the country
and the next prime minister for

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people who want to kind of keep
both are placing bets for you

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00:35:19,949 --> 00:35:25,889
betters out there this Kier
Starmer creep, which is

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basically what it is. It will be
the next prime minister. What's

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key here key k e ir Starmer sta
RT m er, so

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Adam Curry: they're going full
on?

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John C Dvorak: He's a socialist
communist, basically. Yeah.

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Excellent.

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Adam Curry: And they won't be
able to say anything, you know,

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because you can't predict now so
that you and I are staunchly

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00:35:49,260 --> 00:35:53,100
anti war, anti death. We don't
like any of that. And we don't

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like this horrible 34,000 people
dead. It's so unbelievable to

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me, that we don't talk about the
hundreds of 1000s that are dead

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in Ukraine, our closest ally,
who we just sent.

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John C Dvorak: No, I'm joking,
even bring up Africa. No,

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Adam Curry: no, no, that then
people will run away. And then

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00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:16,290
and this is the latest barely
gets any news. But I love the

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terms is very short clip. And I
love what's happening as

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Unknown: Russia steps up its
attack so your client says it

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will suspend consular services
for military aged men abroad.

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Authorities now want to ensure
that men aged between 18 and 60

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living abroad return home. Many
Ukrainians say they are being

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unfairly targeted. Military

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Adam Curry: aged men now is
between 18 and 66. To

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John C Dvorak: imagine that
maybe we can put you in the

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00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:45,480
crosshairs, right?

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Adam Curry: They're like, hey,
we can use you for we can use

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00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:51,510
you as cannon fodder for a
couple of months. Yeah, and

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00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:51,990
these guys

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John C Dvorak: are last probably
for a while. No, no, no, no,

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Adam Curry: no. It's unknown.
Oh, who cares? They're

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00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:02,880
Ukrainians. Not the same thing.
They're not brown.

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John C Dvorak: So before we
leave the Middle East, I do have

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this. I had this wild clip,
which is the My rub alized clip.

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This is just one of these things
that I picked. I pulled down

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from PBS NewsHour, that to me,
it was just like a head shaker

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go. Okay. You know, for one
thing, they make a big thing

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about the Israelis going to
roughen No, no, no, don't do

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that. They already did it. And
here's the clip.

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Unknown: Egypt has sent a high
level delegation to Israel

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tonight, hoping to revive talks
for a hostage deal and ceasefire

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with Hamas. But Cairo also
warned against an Israeli

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assault on the southern Gaza
City of Rafah along the border

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with Egypt. Much of Gaza has
already been reduced to a

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wasteland with UN officials
estimating 37 million tons of

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debris to be removed. They said
today that the cleanup operation

627
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will be a mammoth job

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with 100 trucks. We're talking
about 14 years of work with 100

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trucks. So that's based on that
figure 14 years to remove with

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approximately 750,000 workdays,
person workdays to remove the

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debris. Wow.

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John C Dvorak: Wow. Wow, that's
Rob alized. Verbalize right in

633
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saying Don't go in there for
what you just stubbed your toe?

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I mean, there's no nothing
there.

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Adam Curry: Unbeliev but you
know, You're heartless You're

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heartless

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John C Dvorak: 14 years of clean
up.

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Adam Curry: You're heartless to
vorak. Anyway, right on cue,

639
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:45,060
right on cue, we pass we pass
the bill the money's in and

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Unknown: as you mentioned,
Ukraine is also asking for these

641
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patriots. Batteries. And your
European allies seem to have

642
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,740
those batteries but securing
them won't be as easy as it

643
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:57,000
seems. Yes,

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00:38:57,030 --> 00:39:01,980
Ukraine says that their allies
in Europe have 100 of these

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Patriot systems which are
extremely effective and they're

646
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,450
saying if we can get seven
systems you know that you have

647
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,220
of out of 100 that you have a
dear allies? Well, this would be

648
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enough to block you know, the
bulk of Russian attacks that's

649
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:21,480
what the Ukrainians are saying
but it's not easy because

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00:39:21,540 --> 00:39:24,510
European countries you know if
the giveaway their defense

651
00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:27,720
systems well you know, they're
losing some deterrence a

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00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:31,980
countries like Greece and Spain
they've been asked to give away

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00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:35,910
some of their missiles that the
missiles the defense system,

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some interceptors and well,
they've been saying, Well, you

655
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:42,690
know, we don't really want to
give them away, even though

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00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:47,070
we're allies with Ukraine and
the US is saying that they're

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gonna send a faster gonna rush
in some patriots, but not the

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systems themselves. Only the
missiles that intercept you

659
00:39:54,810 --> 00:39:56,460
know, the missiles coming in
from Russia.

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Adam Curry: This woman was so
out of breath. By the end of

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00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:01,020
this report. She was just Aside
herself

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John C Dvorak: is it is what it
was this fence, France 24,

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France 24 They have a couple of
these breathless reporters that

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there's one way they are all the
time. Always like this. She's

665
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just like she just ran up a
flight of steps and she's trying

666
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to catch your breath. So I have
a terrible reporter.

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Adam Curry: I have boots on the
ground report and then I want to

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show you how this works in
practice. Because you know, we

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pass $96 billion worth and you
know, Ukraine aid Israel aid.

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And we all know that we read the
bill, it's a procurement law

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John C Dvorak: reading bills, it
doesn't help the donations.

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Adam Curry: Oh, you're gonna
blame you're gonna blame that on

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the donation? Do

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John C Dvorak: I have to blame
somebody? Wow,

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Adam Curry: how about your
newsletter was no good.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, there Yes. He
can't see can't take it.

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Adam Curry: People are saying
read do read legislation the

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more I do it and then run away.
You're right. That's the end of

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it. So boots on the ground. I
work in the belly

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John C Dvorak: way. Hold on a
second. You see, you stopped me

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in my tracks. People have said
to you

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Adam Curry: continuous? More
likely. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,

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yeah. You

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John C Dvorak: have nutty
listeners. Do we have here out

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there there are donating anyway.
Yeah. They should have coughed

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up some big bucks

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Adam Curry: for that draft.
Yeah, no, no, not not even not

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even an attaboy

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John C Dvorak: another they
should have done double because

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you marked it up and posted and
not

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Adam Curry: even an Attaboy.
Nothing. Crickets. I'm never

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doing it again. So it was 270
pages. All right. Now listen to

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this. I work in the belly of the
beast at an Air Force base where

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a couple of F 35 squadrons are
based and wasn't in a fairly

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high level meeting this week
where a couple interesting

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details were mentioned. The
first is that now Finland is a

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member of NATO, they will be
purchasing F 30. Fives ASAP.

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Yeah, exactly. Good for our GDP.
Each of these is in the

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neighborhood of $90 million,
just to manufacture. And that

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goes without mentioning whatever
cost increase will happen for a

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foreign military sale. This
doesn't even begin to get into

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what it will cost Finland to
maintain these jets. You see,

703
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Lockheed Martin is a real pain
to work with on this because the

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government let them keep all of
the data rights. So they

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Lockheed Martin gets to decide
how where and who performs the

706
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maintenance work. Of course,
since they own the data rights,

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they will take a cut everywhere
they can because they have to be

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involved in everything. If you
asked me, Lockheed Martin is

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probably the one that convinced
Finland to join NATO. He was

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going people it's all about like
it. Second, the Air Force is

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being told that money for large
projects will be scarce with the

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department within the Department
of Defense, because the Navy

713
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needs at all to move naval bases
due to the rise of sea level. My

714
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best guess is that the leaders
in the Navy know they aren't

715
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about to get flooded. But they
see an opportunity to take

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advantage of a bunch of idiots
coming their way. It's

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John C Dvorak: the Navy they
flow Who cares whether they're

718
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flooded? They got boats are

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Adam Curry: our boots on the
ground suggests maybe they

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should build a base on Jon's
mudflats since they seem to be

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immune from the sea level rise.

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John C Dvorak: Looking out there
right now, by the way. Yep,

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nothing has changed. As an aside
this at 90. As an

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Adam Curry: aside, this
conversation came up because we

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are perpetually out of money for
large projects. It's wild to see

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$1 trillion worth of funding go
to the Department of Defense.

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But basically none of it makes
it down the change chain due to

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so much fraud. And third, he
says You are absolutely correct

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about ramping up for China. We
are sent briefings about the

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threat from China regularly and
they are getting more frequent.

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The latest one was all about how
projecting out to 2025. China

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will have more planes, more
ships and missiles than all of

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the US, Australia, Japan and
South Korea put together the

734
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message was pretty clear. We
have to build more stuff and we

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can't let them steal our
designs. I'll also mention that

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I have never seen a briefing
about the threat from Russia,

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ISIS, North Korea or anyone
else. It's all China all the

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time. And so now we get to oh,
you know what we have we got

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another 100 billion dollars.
Well, all right. Then here.

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Remember we had that 7.8 billion
earmarked for for Ukraine for

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actual money going to Ukraine,
which is now partially being

742
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released. This was not a big
news item. And it's being

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released so they can buy our
stuff.

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Unknown: Let's bring in our
Louis Martinez covers the

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Pentagon for us also MC Mulroy,
our security and defense

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analyst.

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Let's start with you, Louis and
just talk about this aid

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package. Clearly this is a part
of that massive foreign aid

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package that we announced or
President Biden announced just

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days ago. Now getting in to the
nitty gritty of exactly what

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this means for Ukraine and
Israel.

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No, you're right here. It's been
a really busy week with regards

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to Ukraine in the funding
levels, the 95 billion of which

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60 billion of it was intended
for Ukraine. And immediately

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after that, we saw the billion
dollars in immediate aid. These

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are weapons in the US inventory
that are being provided

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immediately to

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Adam Curry: me. So there's 1
billion went immediately for

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Ukraine to spend on buying stuff
from our contractors, okay,

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that's 1 million

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Unknown: to Ukraine. There's
another portion of that money,

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which goes towards future
weapons buys. That's where the

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$6 billion, though,

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Adam Curry: the Pentagon just
announced six additional $6

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billion $7 billion total. So
about 800 million left that

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Unknown: with the secretary
Austin announced just came in.

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This is $6 million that the
United States will provide so

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that Ukraine can purchase
additional new weapons, and of

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course work from home. The focus
here is on air defense. You

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heard him talking specifically
about more artillery ammunition

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you heard and specifically
talking about more missiles for

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those Patriot systems. You also
heard defense secretary Austin

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talking about how the United
States and other countries are

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going to pinch seems like try to
provide more Patriot systems

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those launchers that Ukraine is
so desperately asking for, as

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Russia keeps launching more
attacks on Ukraine cities, the

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question is when will they
arrive given that they're in

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such dire need?

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Adam Curry: So three days ago,
attack Holmes attack comes

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attack comes attack comes, which
the President of the United

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States does not have to give? We
read that in the legislation

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again, I repent. I'm sorry, I
did that. So and now it's Oh,

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patriots. We need missiles.
Patriots. Patriots, patriots.

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Alright, here's $6 billion. Shut
up. Buy it from those guys. It's

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all a buy, Bill. It's insane.
Okay. We're being ripped off

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your watch. For being ripped off
gambling. They're ripped off.

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Unbelievable. What a Jip. Jip,

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John C Dvorak: what a jet.

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Adam Curry: All right. Anyway,
that's, that's my presentation.

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That's

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John C Dvorak: your rant here as
my president that's my presence

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or shadows. Well,

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Adam Curry: I'm, I'm, I'm fed
up. I'm sad. I'm sad. That, that

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people are falling into the same
trap of arguing on social media,

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spurred on often by the King, I
should say the queen of social

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media, Elon Musk, which everyone
thinks oh, he's, he's without

797
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:41,940
him. We wouldn't have free
speech. You wait, what's coming

798
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:45,630
with x? You? Wait, you wait, oh,
you'll have your free speech

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when he has your payment
details. So we can find? Yeah,

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you just wait. It's all coming
down. Here. But none meantime,

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let's, I'm going to send this
podcast or a piece of my mind.

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John C Dvorak: I think you'd get
more, you've got probably got

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more. I got some targeted notes.
But you probably get, but it's

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you probably got to bribe me.

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Adam Curry: But when I when when
people say why did you purposely

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lie? What are you talking about?
It's what benefit

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John C Dvorak: to what I'm
convinced you what was what was

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the lie? I didn't get that? Oh,
the lie

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Adam Curry: is that I said based
upon I think good evidence that

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good historical comparisons,
which partially came from that

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Hudson professor, is that the
United States is running the

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energy all around the world.
We've been doing it for a long

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time, the project for New
American Century, which required

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the world trade we required to
get us into war, which when you

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know, instead of going to
Afghanistan, we went to Iraq.

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What Okay, aluminum tubes. Then
we killed a million Iraqis. We

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stole all the oil, which yellow
cake was yellow. Okay, we're

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still in Syria, but somehow the
Jews are running us. Stop it.

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It's ridiculous on its face with
that people are stuck in that.

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And then when you say, hey, you
know, it ain't all that bad.

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Then it's then you get the pro
Palestinian people. So we are

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right over the target because
it's coming in from both sides.

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This is like

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John C Dvorak: COVID, Flack,
Slack, but it's like being in a

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b 29. It's like COVID in

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Adam Curry: the beginning. And
remember, Ukraine and Russia.

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You guys are on the wrong side
of history.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we lost the
last but then

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Adam Curry: Tucker does an
interview with Putin. Oh, well,

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you know, hey, it's pretty good
now. Yeah, yeah,

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John C Dvorak: he went to a
grocery store even but people

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Adam Curry: people, we can't say
them. That's unsavable I'm glad

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I'm old. Glad I can retire.
Bill. I don't think I'm gonna

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make four more years. You got to
do something else podcast

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pastor. There you go. I'll do
something else. Podcast,

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John C Dvorak: Pastor, podcast
past guests, and if I have three

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clips about the protests, I want
to get them out of the way.

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Okay, good to go. These are
student protests. I saw a

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student protests rapping in PR.

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Adam Curry: Okay we go. student
protests

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Unknown: in solidarity with Gaza
have spread to campuses across

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the US demanding that
universities disclose financial

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ties to Israel and divest.
amperes Jasmine Garst has more.

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The

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protests have moved into schools
not historically associated with

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activism like the University of
Southern California. Several

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schools have come under fire for
allowing police to come onto

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campus. Over 100 protesters were
arrested at Columbia University

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last week. The University of
Texas in Austin and the

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University of Southern
California also saw student

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activists arrested at Emory in
Georgia. The student newspaper

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reported that the Atlanta police
deployed a tear gas into the

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crowd of protests. With
graduation nearing many

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universities are changing plans.
The University of Southern

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California has canceled its main
ceremony. Columbia says it's

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negotiating with student
protesters to have the campus

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cleared by me 15 for graduation,

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Adam Curry: graduation.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right.
So there's that's the catch up

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and then we have I have this WTF
clip, which is a clip I always

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put aside. Short, the short,
this is a seven seconds of

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something. Let's see what it is
to

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Unknown: continue negotiating
with the students and getting

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that encampment cleared in time
for graduation on May 14.

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John C Dvorak: Okay. Oh, yes.
Glad we played What was weird

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about that clip you think?

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Adam Curry: Let me listen to it
again,

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Unknown: to continue negotiating
with the students and getting

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that encampment cleared in time
for graduation on May 14.

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John C Dvorak: Graduation on May
14,

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Adam Curry: is that I don't
know. I didn't go to college. So

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you went to high school? In
Holland.

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John C Dvorak: Whoa, wherever
you went may 14. I mean, it

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seems to me you'd be graduating
in June. At least the mid to mid

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June, May. Or May. This is long.
So we got what it may 14 test

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school ends on May 14 and eight
what the teachers, professors,

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whatever they are called what
you want. What they get five

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months off. I mean, what is it
because they didn't know that I

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would get back into October. But
what did what did they tighten

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the year so why you Mazal
graduate them now because

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they're not going to learn
anything more you

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Adam Curry: act like like these
degrees are of any value that

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they mean anyway.

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John C Dvorak: You can make that
point you can make that point.

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The third clip is the Jews in
protest at Columbia.

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Unknown: There have been charges
of anti semitism at some of

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these protests. What did you
find on campus?

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So yesterday at a press
conference hosted by Columbia,

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Barnard Hello, several pro
Israel students expressed fear

890
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and anger. Here's no with Fay.

891
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No one is above the law. Arrest
the students on Butler law and

892
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discipline those that continue
to call for the death of my

893
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friends and family will get me
the Jew facing this. I am not

894
00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:23,100
afraid anymore. So why should
the administration be?

895
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:26,580
She pointed out that one of the
leaders of the Columbia

896
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encampment in a social media
video called for the death of

897
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Zionists has since apologized
and been barred from campus. Now

898
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,440
a few days ago, I also had a
chance to sit down with Sarah

899
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Boris. She's one of the students
who were arrested last week at

900
00:53:41,070 --> 00:53:45,120
Columbia. She's been suspended
she can't go back on campus. She

901
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,900
herself is Jewish. And she says
the only thing making her feel

902
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:52,410
unsafe right now is the
heightened police presence

903
00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:57,930
in my capacity as a Jewish
students. I feel safe, but not

904
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with all of the militarization
of our campus. I don't think

905
00:54:00,870 --> 00:54:05,490
anyone feels safe on our campus
because of the way that minutia.

906
00:54:05,490 --> 00:54:08,970
feek and the administration have
escalated the situation

907
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:12,660
in which she told me as she
feels protesting Israel's mass

908
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:15,180
killings makes her a better
deal.

909
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,990
John C Dvorak: I just did, which
I'm sure now that's fine. That's

910
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:23,100
fine. Yes. Very funny.

911
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,740
Adam Curry: All right. Let me
ask you some questions. So the

912
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:30,360
comparisons are made between the
protests and Kent State, and

913
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:36,420
then the the shot some students,
but this and of course, I wasn't

914
00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:40,080
really consciously aware of
those things, because it was a

915
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,130
little before my time. But
weren't the protests at the time

916
00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:47,490
because the comparisons are
being made? Yeah. Oh, look, oh,

917
00:54:47,490 --> 00:54:51,060
look at these. Look at these
military age men coming in with

918
00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:56,520
the police. Wasn't that about
the draft and Vietnam? It was

919
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,980
about Vietnam period. We should
give these kids something to

920
00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:02,310
really protest about A well
drafted, I find this

921
00:55:02,310 --> 00:55:06,930
John C Dvorak: to be rather, you
know, for example, and we talked

922
00:55:06,930 --> 00:55:11,820
about on this show even though
people don't appreciate it the

923
00:55:11,820 --> 00:55:15,600
number of dead Ukrainians is up
through the roof. It's like

924
00:55:15,630 --> 00:55:18,630
that's the genocide is almost a
complete elimination of the

925
00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:25,170
Ukrainian from Ukraine's from
the gene pool their Africa we

926
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:28,350
which we rarely talk about
because that really kills us.

927
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:32,700
There's hundreds of 1000s of
dead because of all these little

928
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:35,460
skirmishes that are going on
around here and they're all

929
00:55:35,460 --> 00:55:40,020
throughout Africa. We did we, we
were militarized, Chad and we

930
00:55:40,020 --> 00:55:42,780
just left it. We don't we
haven't talked about that at all

931
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:45,900
on the show because nobody
cares. And so if you're going to

932
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:48,600
be that concerned about, you
know, these sorts of

933
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,520
conflagrations as a student, why
aren't you concerned about these

934
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,150
other ones you don't know about
anybody but you don't know

935
00:55:57,330 --> 00:56:00,630
Indians? They don't know been to
Palestine is any of these

936
00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:03,240
students if you've been to
Israel, let alone Palestine? I

937
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:03,630
don't think

938
00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:06,690
Adam Curry: either they can they
point to it on a map? Probably

939
00:56:06,690 --> 00:56:10,920
not. No, this is Black Lives
Matter activation to what it is.

940
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:13,470
It gives everybody a chance to
go out and do speeches, write

941
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:16,770
books, where you can be
appearances and you meet meet

942
00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:18,870
chicks. That's right. Meanwhile,
there's

943
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:21,390
John C Dvorak: a get facial
tattoos. It's kind of a

944
00:56:21,390 --> 00:56:22,800
drawback. There's

945
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,940
Adam Curry: some interesting
similarities between the EU and

946
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:31,200
what's happening here in the
United States. This seems to be

947
00:56:31,230 --> 00:56:33,750
a trend that is growing. It's

948
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:36,240
Unknown: a measure that's
gaining traction, nighttime

949
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,410
curfews for minors as a means to
allegedly curb youth violence.

950
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The first of this most recent
spate of curfews began when

951
00:56:43,260 --> 00:56:46,440
interior ministers l Domina.
Announced on a visit to the

952
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,470
French territory of Guadalupe
that appointed beat curfew for

953
00:56:49,470 --> 00:56:53,370
those under 18 would begin April
22. It was the devil so it gets

954
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:56,910
measured, the government says is
an attempt to curb rising

955
00:56:56,910 --> 00:57:00,750
violence for police officers.
The week began with ID checks

956
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,330
and phone calls home to parents.
Okay,

957
00:57:03,330 --> 00:57:07,380
Adam Curry: so we have a curfew,
because I guess it's dangerous

958
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:11,760
that kids are on the street,
kids kids and but this is now

959
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,670
happening in New Jersey in
Newark specifically,

960
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,400
Unknown: they say they want to
focus on making children making

961
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,130
sure that children are safe. And
they want to make sure that the

962
00:57:20,130 --> 00:57:24,240
families have the help they need
to do so. So this new summer

963
00:57:24,270 --> 00:57:28,350
initiative, they are calling the
summer of hope. So unless

964
00:57:28,350 --> 00:57:32,100
they're in they're involved in a
city, church or organization

965
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:36,120
involved activity, children 17
and under, cannot be out by

966
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,320
themselves within 100 yards from
their home. This expanded plan

967
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,100
now has social workers who will
make contact with those kids who

968
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:48,150
are caught violating the curfew,
they will first focus on trying

969
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:51,060
to get the child back to an
adult family member, or the city

970
00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:54,900
has a reengagement center that
those kids would be taken to or

971
00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:58,410
even the hospital until a
relative is found. And any

972
00:57:58,410 --> 00:58:01,770
family that seems to be in
crisis, where some intervention

973
00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:05,730
might lead to a happier, safer
home. That too, will now be

974
00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:06,810
available kind

975
00:58:06,810 --> 00:58:09,750
Adam Curry: of flows into your
observation that parents are

976
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:14,100
going to be blamed for
everything. Yeah. So what is

977
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:18,270
this coming? Since when do we
have curfew for people under 18?

978
00:58:18,690 --> 00:58:21,990
What is this? This is this is
troubling.

979
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:24,660
John C Dvorak: I recall it from
this, I think when I was a

980
00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:30,120
little kid why they used to have
curfews really all over the

981
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,900
country. Yeah.

982
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:35,490
Adam Curry: Okay. What were the
socio economic circumstances at

983
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:36,000
the time?

984
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,500
John C Dvorak: It was Sunday. I
think it fell back. I think it

985
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,740
stemmed from the leftover ideas
from the 30s or 40s. Now, but

986
00:58:46,740 --> 00:58:50,850
what when they were fused during
the war? Yeah, there were

987
00:58:50,850 --> 00:58:55,200
curfews, I remember distinctly,
as a little kid, I done that

988
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,750
there were curfews and people
would talk and it was like a 10

989
00:58:57,750 --> 00:59:01,320
o'clock curfew for every
teenager. Really? Yeah. I think

990
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,080
that lasted until the I don't
know, the

991
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,140
Adam Curry: sweet it stopped
until until the roaring 20s

992
00:59:10,170 --> 00:59:14,910
John C Dvorak: Biden joke. So
no, it's not unusual. I think

993
00:59:14,910 --> 00:59:19,140
the history of curfews in this
country is maybe just forgotten

994
00:59:19,170 --> 00:59:19,710
history.

995
00:59:21,390 --> 00:59:24,180
Adam Curry: Anyway, but you
know, just looking at at France,

996
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,170
it doesn't really matter because
President Macron has made very

997
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:29,520
clear where they're headed

998
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,930
Unknown: Europe could die.

999
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,370
Adam Curry: Europe could die
Europe could die.

1000
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:38,280
Unknown: That was one of
Emmanuel Macron safety warnings

1001
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,030
on Thursday in a landmark speech
at the Sorbonne University in

1002
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:46,830
Paris. The rallying cry involved
a range of topics including

1003
00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:50,640
Europe's cybersecurity relations
with post Brexit Britain,

1004
00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:54,450
Russia's continued invasion of
Ukraine and the Europe's

1005
00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:57,960
challenges faced with a major
competitors who play by

1006
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,340
different rules.

1007
01:00:00,539 --> 01:00:03,959
Adam Curry: Europe could die
send your checks Europe could

1008
01:00:03,959 --> 01:00:04,349
die

1009
01:00:04,350 --> 01:00:06,360
John C Dvorak: what is the what
was the point of that? What is

1010
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,990
he trying to what what is he
What is he trying to either

1011
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:12,930
elicit he's trying to scare
people is trying to scare people

1012
01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:17,070
but but scare him anyway. Does
that scare him?

1013
01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:18,960
Unknown: Okay into I

1014
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,900
John C Dvorak: mean, what does
it mean they get to me the day

1015
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:24,930
or the farmlands not gonna go
away. So

1016
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,410
Adam Curry: when they put all
the earth when people are taxed

1017
01:00:28,410 --> 01:00:32,820
for climate change and military
purchases, that they'll feel

1018
01:00:32,820 --> 01:00:36,120
good about it because you know,
we could die. You might die. I

1019
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,240
mean, come on, as you mind that,
by the way, Craig Weinberg says

1020
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:43,590
they've got a curfew curfew for
youth in their town. This is how

1021
01:00:43,590 --> 01:00:45,930
many curfews do we have in
America? This is interesting.

1022
01:00:45,930 --> 01:00:47,520
I'd love to know. Yeah, I

1023
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,740
John C Dvorak: think there's
more than you think clearly.

1024
01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:53,340
Adam Curry: I mean, if we need a
curfew, is it going to be for

1025
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:54,390
the cicadas?

1026
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,180
John C Dvorak: Oh, brother, have
you heard

1027
01:00:57,180 --> 01:00:59,580
Adam Curry: anywhere? It's
starting now. It's finally so I

1028
01:00:59,580 --> 01:01:03,780
John C Dvorak: can't be starting
yet. Oh, yes. This is the time

1029
01:01:03,810 --> 01:01:07,170
this is two of the biggest
broods is like they like to call

1030
01:01:07,170 --> 01:01:10,560
them I think it's number 13 and
eight or some I get no, no the

1031
01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:14,550
numbers we have a lot of them in
the United States is crawling

1032
01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:19,380
with Sir K with psychiatrists or
cicada psychiatrists? I made it

1033
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:24,840
to Mata they. This these two
groups combined is going to be a

1034
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,770
nightmare.

1035
01:01:26,250 --> 01:01:28,200
Adam Curry: Do you want to hear
this report from NBC?

1036
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'd love
the I would. Somebody suggested

1037
01:01:31,980 --> 01:01:37,650
that we use it as a foundational
story for donations. I don't

1038
01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:42,030
know how well see if Jeff Qaeda
lands on your on your end it

1039
01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:45,180
will if you're in the area, one
of them's gonna land it. They're

1040
01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:48,300
gonna land right on your
shoulder. And it's scary and I

1041
01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:50,490
would that means you should
donate $500 Well,

1042
01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:53,700
Adam Curry: I love in this
report how this this is of

1043
01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:55,500
biblical proportions.

1044
01:01:58,590 --> 01:02:02,730
Unknown: Biggest invasion in
hundreds of years. Not millions.

1045
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:06,780
Not billions, but likely
trillions of these pesky

1046
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:12,240
incredibly loud cicadas. And
right here in Georgia. The

1047
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,650
invasion has begun. It is
shocking to see this many and

1048
01:02:16,650 --> 01:02:19,470
they're already coming out in
South Carolina where they're

1049
01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:22,860
taking over Sarah Weinberg's
backyard. When did you think he

1050
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:23,850
was going to be this bad?

1051
01:02:24,090 --> 01:02:25,770
No, no,

1052
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,530
I really wasn't prepared because
I've never seen this before.

1053
01:02:29,310 --> 01:02:30,660
This is my first invasion.

1054
01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:36,330
They moved in and they have
stayed. stayed mostly under her

1055
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:40,650
gazebo cling on to every corner
and crevice. They think this is

1056
01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:44,220
a safe spot. It's already
getting so loud in Newberry

1057
01:02:44,220 --> 01:02:47,040
County. People are calling the
sheriff to complain.

1058
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:52,380
We had a leak beer. We had
clips. Now we've got the cicadas

1059
01:02:52,380 --> 01:02:53,010
everywhere.

1060
01:02:53,250 --> 01:02:58,050
Why so many this year. Last
added cicadas comes out every 17

1061
01:02:58,050 --> 01:03:03,090
years, another every 13 years.
This year. There's an emergence

1062
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,830
of both broods that hasn't
happened since 1803. They're

1063
01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:11,520
coming out from Alabama to
Missouri, and where they may

1064
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,860
overlap the most Illinois.

1065
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:19,500
They're talking epic numbers
biblical kind of numbers of them

1066
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:20,340
in that area.

1067
01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:21,810
Something historic potentially,

1068
01:03:22,290 --> 01:03:24,510
in the Midwest definitely is
historic for sure. So

1069
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:28,380
Augusta, Georgia Agriculture
agent Campbell Vaughn, cicadas

1070
01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:31,890
are harmless, but very loud. The

1071
01:03:31,890 --> 01:03:35,370
males are making the noise and
it's a little bitty buzz can

1072
01:03:35,850 --> 01:03:36,420
hear that.

1073
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:41,430
So we have the sound level meter
here. So let's pause and just

1074
01:03:41,490 --> 01:03:43,410
see how loud they really are

1075
01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:46,620
about 6060 decibels right here.

1076
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:51,720
But at their peak that could
skyrocket to 100 decibels. About

1077
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,430
the same as a lawnmower.

1078
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,310
Enjoy the noises bridges are
really a neat thing. So don't

1079
01:03:56,310 --> 01:03:57,570
get too freaked out by them.

1080
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,190
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was in
Georgia 17 years ago.

1081
01:04:06,690 --> 01:04:09,900
Adam Curry: During the previous
brood, yeah,

1082
01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:15,270
John C Dvorak: be the previous
outbreak. And it is noisy. Yeah.

1083
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,330
I don't remember everywhere you
go and you walk in you walk down

1084
01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:21,510
this you know if you're like I
remember being in Buckhead, and

1085
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:26,040
if you're anywhere near a tree,
there's just they're all in the

1086
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,180
tree and they're just making
nothing but this noise is and

1087
01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:33,900
they're doing it and combined.
It's just It's horrifying. Ly

1088
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:37,770
loud. And I can see I don't know
if it gets to 100 decibels but

1089
01:04:37,770 --> 01:04:43,410
which is pretty loud. But it's
possible. Then they do land on

1090
01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:45,300
your shoulder. You walk around
and boned wetlands. Oh,

1091
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:48,360
Adam Curry: yeah. And we I have
received several recipes for

1092
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,560
cicada. Oh stralman What else
you're going to do with your

1093
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,910
time? We got to fill airtime
people. Let's do a cicada

1094
01:04:56,910 --> 01:05:04,950
recipe. Yeah, Well, as you said,
we we had we had an eclipse to

1095
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:06,210
leap year global, it's

1096
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:08,430
John C Dvorak: pretty it's a
proof of climate change going to

1097
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,990
sunny Hoskins on the view.

1098
01:05:10,350 --> 01:05:12,450
Adam Curry: Oh, do you have a
clip? No, it's

1099
01:05:12,450 --> 01:05:15,810
John C Dvorak: from that. Oh,
you talked about it? Yeah,

1100
01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:20,010
right. You're right. You're
right. Okay, get some. I have an

1101
01:05:20,010 --> 01:05:26,820
interesting, two clips from. I
think it's from NTD. Because

1102
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:28,710
they have these discussions once
in a while. And this is

1103
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:31,200
something I think we should both
listen to. And I think the

1104
01:05:31,230 --> 01:05:34,290
audience in general, and the
producers in general would find

1105
01:05:34,290 --> 01:05:41,340
it insightful. It's about the
government deciding that a non

1106
01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:45,060
compete is a illegal

1107
01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:48,180
Adam Curry: All right. Yes. And
this is, is this aimed mainly at

1108
01:05:48,180 --> 01:05:50,670
the technology industry. I

1109
01:05:50,670 --> 01:05:52,320
John C Dvorak: don't know who
it's aimed at. But it that's who

1110
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,890
it affects the most. And so they
discussed it a little bit in

1111
01:05:55,890 --> 01:05:57,150
that this word listening to

1112
01:05:57,210 --> 01:05:59,610
Unknown: Federal Trade
Commission is getting sued by

1113
01:05:59,610 --> 01:06:02,520
the Chamber of Commerce and
several business groups over

1114
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,150
banning non compete agreements.
Those prevent a person from

1115
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:09,120
working in the same industry or
starting a competing business

1116
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,690
for some time after leaving a
job. The FTC calls these

1117
01:06:12,690 --> 01:06:16,440
agreements, unfair, but some say
the contracts, protect trade

1118
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,500
secrets and encourage
competition and entities. David

1119
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:22,080
Lam spoke with Vance, again,
president of good economic

1120
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,260
consulting. He's also a former
chief economist for the White

1121
01:06:25,260 --> 01:06:27,840
House Office of Management and
Budget. Vance,

1122
01:06:27,870 --> 01:06:30,480
great to see you again. And
thank you for joining us. Now

1123
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,260
tell us what the FTC banning non
compete agreements? What's the

1124
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:35,670
impact on the job market?

1125
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:38,250
Well, it's a pleasure to be with
you. And I think that this will

1126
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:40,800
have a big impact on the job
market. There's a lot of

1127
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,160
businesses out there where they
negotiate these agreements, this

1128
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:49,350
worker agreements with the
worker, to not share information

1129
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:52,620
or not have the same customers
or clients after they leave.

1130
01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:56,010
That's kind of this non compete
agreements that they sign in.

1131
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,160
There are many of these across
many sectors of the economy,

1132
01:06:59,220 --> 01:07:03,030
including a lot of those that
are new innovations, technology

1133
01:07:03,030 --> 01:07:07,140
firms, manufacturing firms,
those types, and it's really

1134
01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:10,110
across many sectors of the
economy. And so this will have a

1135
01:07:10,110 --> 01:07:14,460
big influence on the workforce
and the future of work. And I

1136
01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:16,770
really think I think at the end
of the day, that this should be

1137
01:07:16,770 --> 01:07:17,430
overturned.

1138
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:23,850
Adam Curry: Now what, so you
didn't mention technology, but

1139
01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:29,340
if you have a non compete, and
the company wants to hold you to

1140
01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:33,780
a non compete, is it not typical
in a non compete agreement that

1141
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:38,430
you then are paid? Even though
you've left the company or

1142
01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:40,050
you've been fired, or what's
generally

1143
01:07:40,050 --> 01:07:45,180
John C Dvorak: speaking, as far
as I know, you when you leave

1144
01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:50,730
certain tech companies, you sign
it you sign off on for money?

1145
01:07:50,970 --> 01:07:54,420
Yeah, a non disparagement
clause?

1146
01:07:54,420 --> 01:07:55,920
Adam Curry: Well, non
disparagement is different than

1147
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,900
not non. I'm just saying,

1148
01:07:58,110 --> 01:08:01,200
John C Dvorak: you sign off on
that. And, and in in certain

1149
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,660
high tech companies, where
there's actually technology

1150
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:06,270
involved where you'd learn
something. Or if you're in

1151
01:08:06,270 --> 01:08:11,460
sales, you have developed a
Rolodex, you sign off on a non

1152
01:08:11,460 --> 01:08:15,690
compete that means you can't use
your own Rolodex for X number of

1153
01:08:15,690 --> 01:08:18,570
years Wink, wink, nudge nudge,
yeah, that's not going to work.

1154
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:22,920
But but it will work if you for
example, and this happens in the

1155
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:26,430
in the chip industry, because I
was involved in a couple of

1156
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,310
lawsuits as an expert witness,
where you, and you get to see

1157
01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:35,490
the kind of the ins how the
sausage is made when you're an

1158
01:08:35,490 --> 01:08:40,680
expert witness. They, Intel and
AMD, for example, were suing

1159
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,410
each other constantly over one
thing or another. And what they

1160
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:48,450
would do is they would find a
circuit design of some sort that

1161
01:08:48,450 --> 01:08:53,250
was used in a competing chip.
And then they would track down

1162
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,240
an employee who happened to be
working in engineering that

1163
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,680
would know that design, and then
they would sue. Because it's

1164
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,590
obviously the guy took the
design from one company and took

1165
01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:08,190
it to the other company. Right.
And so they have this so the

1166
01:09:08,190 --> 01:09:13,380
design of today's chips has been
done ever since the late 80s.

1167
01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:17,610
I'm pretty sure even before
then, the so called clean room

1168
01:09:17,610 --> 01:09:23,010
designs were to prevent this
sort of lawsuit, the companies

1169
01:09:23,010 --> 01:09:29,370
would make sure nobody working
on the design of this new chip

1170
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,210
worked for anybody else.
excepted, you know, pretty much

1171
01:09:33,210 --> 01:09:36,990
fresh out of school or they came
from Russia, or who knows where

1172
01:09:36,990 --> 01:09:39,330
that's where a lot of the design
work for Intel, for example, is

1173
01:09:39,330 --> 01:09:44,400
done in Haifa, Israel. In fact,
we have a lot of chip designers

1174
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,670
that are scattered around the
world. A lot of the chip designs

1175
01:09:47,670 --> 01:09:53,460
for microprocessors is done by
Indians. It because the Indians

1176
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:57,180
for some unknown reason have
this natural ability to they

1177
01:09:57,180 --> 01:10:01,110
have a knack for designing
processors. So this was it

1178
01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:04,500
becomes very complicated because
these things are so valuable and

1179
01:10:04,830 --> 01:10:08,130
because when you design some
something new a new circuit, and

1180
01:10:08,130 --> 01:10:10,350
you can sell it for half the
price of somebody else's thing,

1181
01:10:10,350 --> 01:10:12,150
you can just get rid rich
overnight. Why

1182
01:10:12,150 --> 01:10:16,740
Adam Curry: do you think this is
in play now? And what why is the

1183
01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:20,310
Federal Trade Commission all of
a sudden, jumping into this,

1184
01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:23,970
this must there must be
something brewing and someone's

1185
01:10:23,970 --> 01:10:29,190
paid off? Some people agree. And
it seems fishy about to me like

1186
01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:33,180
this would be an AI chip design
deal that somewhat maybe it's

1187
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,760
John C Dvorak: China, China,
maybe involved here, Sam

1188
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,580
Adam Curry: Altman, with his you
know, he may be got that $7

1189
01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:42,180
trillion, he needs to make it
work. Finally,

1190
01:10:43,410 --> 01:10:45,690
John C Dvorak: LET'S PLAY CLIP
tune, we'll figure it out. Now,

1191
01:10:45,690 --> 01:10:48,540
Unknown: events under these non
compete agreements, how long did

1192
01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:52,380
employees typically have to wait
after they quit their job before

1193
01:10:52,380 --> 01:10:55,170
moving to a new company in the
same industry? Well, it

1194
01:10:55,170 --> 01:10:57,570
depends on the agreement that
they signed, sometimes it could

1195
01:10:57,570 --> 01:11:00,720
be six months, sometimes it
could be a year. Other times

1196
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,390
these non compete agreements can
be more than a year. And so that

1197
01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:07,590
can put some strain on
individuals, whenever they go

1198
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:11,670
and try to find another job.
However, they usually get paid

1199
01:11:11,670 --> 01:11:14,220
more when they have a non
compete agreement, because as

1200
01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:17,190
they go into these negotiations,
you can either get a job that

1201
01:11:17,190 --> 01:11:19,620
doesn't have a non compete
agreement, or you take a job

1202
01:11:19,620 --> 01:11:22,500
that has one, you're going to
want a higher pay or more

1203
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:23,100
benefits.

1204
01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:25,440
Now moving forward, if
businesses aren't allowed to

1205
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,950
have these specialized
contracts, how would they ensure

1206
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:32,250
that their trade secrets won't
be revealed to other companies

1207
01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:33,690
from their former employees?

1208
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,990
Well, I think that's a great
question. And I think it's one

1209
01:11:36,990 --> 01:11:40,380
that a lot of these employers
are going to look at and say, Do

1210
01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:43,170
we really want to hire as many
workers if we're going to have

1211
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:47,310
to be concerned about trade
secrets, other things being

1212
01:11:47,310 --> 01:11:50,820
released, or clients and things
of that nature being released,

1213
01:11:50,850 --> 01:11:54,090
because that will reduce their
profitability over time? What we

1214
01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:57,120
want really is a more
competitive labor market, not

1215
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,030
one that it's gonna be based on
what's the next rule put in

1216
01:12:00,030 --> 01:12:03,000
place by the FTC, by the Biden
administration, or even by

1217
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,480
states, we should be unleashing
people to allow for them to

1218
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:09,090
negotiate whatever the
agreements are going to be. And

1219
01:12:09,090 --> 01:12:12,420
so I think this is going to hurt
not only employment, but wages

1220
01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:14,850
and fringe benefits for the
future. This should really be

1221
01:12:14,850 --> 01:12:18,540
something that's done with
voluntary transactions. Hmm.

1222
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,570
Adam Curry: Well, I think
that'll be unveiled soon enough.

1223
01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:23,160
We'll find out why this there's

1224
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,610
John C Dvorak: something up with
this and it out of the blue

1225
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,090
happened a couple of weeks ago,
I guess, out of the blue,

1226
01:12:30,570 --> 01:12:33,840
generally speaking, a lot of
companies will do will take care

1227
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,340
of these some of these, these
fears by by keeping secret,

1228
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:43,680
their employee roster. I noticed
this, you see this on TV shows

1229
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,030
occasionally the Greg Gutfeld
show, for example, never runs a

1230
01:12:48,030 --> 01:12:51,360
credit roll ever. So you don't
know the route writers are for

1231
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,450
the writers. Yeah, I guess it's
to protect the writers they do.

1232
01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:58,350
Bill Maher runs a credit roll
with it, you find out there's 12

1233
01:12:58,350 --> 01:13:00,600
writers there and you can get
their names. And if you wanted

1234
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,690
to poach him, you could, but
some of these shows, I don't

1235
01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:07,860
know why they do that. They I
don't know if they're paying

1236
01:13:07,890 --> 01:13:12,720
extra so they don't get credit.
I'm not sure. But the thing is,

1237
01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:17,250
it's a big deal that I think non
compete is I think it's a fair

1238
01:13:17,250 --> 01:13:22,590
idea in tech. Because these
ideas some of these trade

1239
01:13:22,590 --> 01:13:26,610
secrets are just little gimmicks
and if you don't want them out,

1240
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:31,560
Adam Curry: Well how about this?
I need to review our agreement

1241
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,490
because if I accept the offer to
go do my own show on the blaze,

1242
01:13:35,490 --> 01:13:38,340
I mean, can you stop me from
doing that with our non compete?

1243
01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:42,540
John C Dvorak: No, I actually
had to been agreed to 10 years

1244
01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:47,910
ago. Excellent. To go work for
the blaze and you end up like

1245
01:13:47,940 --> 01:13:49,890
Hello. Who's Rubin? Red? So

1246
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:53,490
Adam Curry: red say making new
video over there.

1247
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:55,620
Unknown: Yeah.

1248
01:13:57,270 --> 01:14:02,850
Adam Curry: blink blink. Yeah,
the blaze rocks. That's right.

1249
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:09,540
John, I'd never I would never
forsake you. All for one. Oh,

1250
01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:15,720
here we go. One where we go all
Glenn bells. Good. Glenn Beck's

1251
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,080
calling.

1252
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,450
John C Dvorak: Again, again,
backs on the line. Usually it

1253
01:14:21,450 --> 01:14:24,480
would be better if Glenn Beck
actually listened to the show.

1254
01:14:24,570 --> 01:14:26,310
But no, that would be a start.

1255
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:30,660
Adam Curry: It would be
surprising. It's like whatever

1256
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:34,710
happened to was the big black
guy. What's his name?

1257
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:38,070
John C Dvorak: The big black
guy. Yeah.

1258
01:14:38,190 --> 01:14:41,340
Adam Curry: It used to be on
Tucker all the time. He went to

1259
01:14:41,340 --> 01:14:44,430
the blaze and they just it's
like it's Oh,

1260
01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:46,980
John C Dvorak: yeah, they
athlete. The guy used his report

1261
01:14:46,980 --> 01:14:52,410
on sports. Yeah, that guy. Oh,
IQ. This is how it goes. Yeah, I

1262
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:55,560
don't even remember who he is.
We can't even remember his name

1263
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,800
because he went over to the
blaze and disappeared. Troll

1264
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,270
Adam Curry: rooms trying to help
Shaquille O'Neal. You don't

1265
01:15:00,270 --> 01:15:01,920
know. And that wasn't him. No,
no,

1266
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:06,960
John C Dvorak: no. No So, whit
Whitmore Whitman, Whitlock

1267
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,730
Whitlock? Jason Whitlock. There

1268
01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:10,440
Adam Curry: we go Jason
Whitlock.

1269
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,400
John C Dvorak: Yeah Jason Witten
like great material. Always good

1270
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:19,110
for a clip and now it's like
what where he is with

1271
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:21,840
Adam Curry: all the with all the
protection of the Jews I'm doing

1272
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,780
how come Ben Shapiro hasn't
called for me to fill in for

1273
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:28,560
Candace Owens? Yeah, you could
fit right in there right in over

1274
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,010
there.

1275
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:33,840
John C Dvorak: I don't think it
talked fast enough. It could

1276
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,990
speed up I could do old school
you talk normal speed, I

1277
01:15:36,990 --> 01:15:39,630
Adam Curry: could speed it up.
No problem. I can I can do it.

1278
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:51,000
Well, good news, after the mRNA
jab has reportedly been possibly

1279
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:57,150
responsible for turbo cancers.
Right when we expect it, it's

1280
01:15:57,150 --> 01:16:00,780
back on the list everybody,
we're going to use the mRNA

1281
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:01,560
technology to

1282
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,560
Unknown: skin cancer patients in
the UK have begun taking part in

1283
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:09,210
a trial aimed at developing the
first personalized vaccine for

1284
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,740
melanoma. experimental treatment
uses the same technology as some

1285
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:18,450
COVID-19 jabs results from an
earlier stage of the trial

1286
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,750
suggests that using it in
combination with another drug

1287
01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:26,220
reduces the risk of recurrence
or death by 49%. After three

1288
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:30,480
years, health correspondingly,
Hutchinson has the report. I

1289
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:34,020
Adam Curry: love the fact that
keeps saying in with another

1290
01:16:34,050 --> 01:16:36,510
cancer drug which they never
mentioned in the report. And I

1291
01:16:36,510 --> 01:16:39,300
have yet to find out what it is
Steve

1292
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:42,690
Unknown: Young, one of the first
NHS patients to take part in the

1293
01:16:42,690 --> 01:16:46,920
trial for what hoped will be a
game changing treatment. It's

1294
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,820
for melanoma, the deadliest of
all the skin cancers. And it

1295
01:16:50,820 --> 01:16:54,210
aims to help those at the
highest risk of a recurrence.

1296
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:58,110
Steve was given the experimental
treatment at University College

1297
01:16:58,110 --> 01:17:01,800
Hospital in London, he had a
melanoma removed from his scalp

1298
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,280
last summer, he told us the
trial is his best chance of

1299
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:10,950
keeping cancer free. I feel like
case someone told me I've got

1300
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:13,680
survivor syndrome because I
actually feel guilty. I feel

1301
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:18,270
guilty that I'm completely fine.
And yet I'm getting all this

1302
01:17:18,270 --> 01:17:22,530
attention. And I'm you know, I
get to have a scan and an MRI

1303
01:17:22,530 --> 01:17:26,220
every three months when I know
that people are waiting such a

1304
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:33,240
long time. And I genuinely feel
kind of awful about that. But I

1305
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,590
just really hope that what's
happening with the trial and the

1306
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:41,940
results they get are going to be
good news, and it's going to go

1307
01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:43,260
on to do amazing things.

1308
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,690
Adam Curry: I mean, this is
exactly what we knew what

1309
01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:49,770
happened. When particularly with
certainly in the US with

1310
01:17:50,220 --> 01:17:55,410
President Biden's Cancer
Moonshot, here they come mRNA

1311
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,350
it's the solution to all your
problems. Everything's going to

1312
01:17:58,350 --> 01:17:59,610
be fixed with mRNA.

1313
01:17:59,670 --> 01:18:02,790
Unknown: The personalized
treatment works by identifying

1314
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:07,410
proteins unique to each person's
cancer and then uses the same

1315
01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:09,420
technology which created so

1316
01:18:10,410 --> 01:18:18,360
John C Dvorak: that they get up
the so this vaccine quote is

1317
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:22,320
only used on people who have
melanoma.

1318
01:18:24,780 --> 01:18:29,700
Adam Curry: Please go away with
your logic. Okay, stop being

1319
01:18:29,700 --> 01:18:35,820
logical. Yes, it's a it's a
vaccine that you

1320
01:18:35,820 --> 01:18:38,520
John C Dvorak: both who who
already have answer yes, or I

1321
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,140
had melanoma.

1322
01:18:40,530 --> 01:18:43,920
Adam Curry: But don't just don't
you understand that this is just

1323
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,480
the trial in conjunction with
some other magical Yeah,

1324
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:51,750
John C Dvorak: I understand that
except for the little tidbit in

1325
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:56,850
there, which is that the vaccine
is based on your personal

1326
01:18:57,660 --> 01:19:03,870
protein profile from the
melanoma you had. So yeah, trial

1327
01:19:03,870 --> 01:19:08,850
or no trial. You got good with
this do anyone who's never had

1328
01:19:08,850 --> 01:19:09,510
melanoma?

1329
01:19:09,540 --> 01:19:13,740
Adam Curry: None. That's not the
point it Vax vaccine is now the

1330
01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:16,350
definition has been changed. We
saw this happen.

1331
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:20,550
John C Dvorak: Well, I know that
I'm just it's just screwy seems

1332
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:21,600
to me, personalized

1333
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,200
Unknown: treatment works by
identifying proteins unique to

1334
01:19:25,230 --> 01:19:29,520
each person's cancer, and then
uses the same technology, which

1335
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,260
created some COVID vaccines
called M RNA to prime the immune

1336
01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:38,220
system to attack the cells. It's
being used in combination with

1337
01:19:38,220 --> 01:19:38,970
another choice.

1338
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:45,000
John C Dvorak: So this is going
to be like the spike protein. In

1339
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,960
other words, you have some
proteins that are that are

1340
01:19:48,990 --> 01:19:50,760
related to your cancer so

1341
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,560
Unknown: we're going to give you
more or create more

1342
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,570
Adam Curry: of them. Yes, that's
that's in

1343
01:19:54,570 --> 01:19:56,610
John C Dvorak: your own system.
So you need to be covered with

1344
01:19:56,610 --> 01:19:59,850
melanoma. I'm not understanding
the again how this is supposed

1345
01:19:59,850 --> 01:20:02,910
to be work, it's been your
immune system suppose to kick it

1346
01:20:02,910 --> 01:20:03,900
up a notch Yeah,

1347
01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:06,090
Adam Curry: and then attack your
immune system, which is, in

1348
01:20:06,090 --> 01:20:10,230
essence, what cancer already is.
I'm not sure combination

1349
01:20:10,230 --> 01:20:12,870
Unknown: with another cancer
drug. And previous results

1350
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:16,620
suggest together, it will most
have the risk of recurrence or

1351
01:20:16,620 --> 01:20:18,810
death after three years, is

1352
01:20:18,810 --> 01:20:21,900
a very specific treatment highly
personalized to each

1353
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:26,550
individual's tumor. And it's a
really exciting way of hopefully

1354
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:29,730
exciting turning the patient's
own immune system against their

1355
01:20:29,730 --> 01:20:32,610
cancer. And it looks like it
could be a really effective,

1356
01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:37,380
effective approach, this trial
will really prove that's the

1357
01:20:37,380 --> 01:20:38,940
case on safe

1358
01:20:38,940 --> 01:20:41,310
Adam Curry: and effective. Well,
there's a lot that it's really

1359
01:20:41,310 --> 01:20:46,260
interesting how medical science
took a huge corner turn with

1360
01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:50,250
COVID. And we knew that we knew
this was going to happen. And

1361
01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:54,570
we're not actually surprised
that this great mRNA technology,

1362
01:20:54,570 --> 01:20:57,510
which you know, you should get a
booster, because they last 60

1363
01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:02,460
days, that you know that this
was all going to happen. safe

1364
01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:07,470
and effective. And so as a part
of this, we talked about, I have

1365
01:21:07,470 --> 01:21:14,820
a couple of clips here I need to
play through these. Because, you

1366
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:18,030
know, I'm gonna go back to what
Texas limb said like the common

1367
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:21,420
for your cows, they're coming
for your beef, it's going to be

1368
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:25,680
the summer of Chinese pork. And,
and we're going to be in you

1369
01:21:25,770 --> 01:21:29,430
just look at all the fake food
products that are being created

1370
01:21:30,270 --> 01:21:33,930
with tastes and texture
chemicals so that it'll taste

1371
01:21:33,930 --> 01:21:36,690
good. It doesn't matter what it
is you're eating, it'll taste

1372
01:21:36,690 --> 01:21:39,600
like beef, you'll think it's
beef, but you're eating you

1373
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:45,750
know, cells that were grown in a
lab. And and so cells so what

1374
01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:50,220
what is happening here now is we
have an attack on the ranching

1375
01:21:50,220 --> 01:21:54,060
industry on the beef industry.
It says there's just some

1376
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:58,020
starting it's slowly and they've
done a really good job. What are

1377
01:21:58,020 --> 01:21:58,680
you doing?

1378
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,840
John C Dvorak: There's a spider
on the Aranda papers. That's

1379
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,160
harsh. I had to kill it.

1380
01:22:05,730 --> 01:22:08,190
Adam Curry: Did you get it? Did
you get them by No,

1381
01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:10,590
John C Dvorak: no I did was
really one of those fast little

1382
01:22:10,590 --> 01:22:11,070
one saw,

1383
01:22:11,070 --> 01:22:13,770
Adam Curry: ya know, you got to
nail those right away. Because

1384
01:22:13,770 --> 01:22:19,200
they creep into your ear at
night and lay eggs. And so So we

1385
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:24,180
already know that they've been
doing this testing in the milk,

1386
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:27,810
because they can't get onto
ranches to go and you know, the

1387
01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:30,120
ranchers like no, you're not
going to test my cows, I know

1388
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,610
exactly what you're gonna do.
You say my cows got bird flu,

1389
01:22:32,610 --> 01:22:35,280
you're gonna make me kill them
all. So they're testing the milk

1390
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:40,710
with PCR, which we know is you
can detect anything you want to

1391
01:22:40,710 --> 01:22:44,130
HIV in your milk, just crank it
up to 40 cycles and look for

1392
01:22:44,130 --> 01:22:46,440
HIV. And you'll have HIV in
here. But everything

1393
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:49,500
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
a complaint that Mimi had about

1394
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:55,380
the show, or at least lessons.
Yeah, she's been listening for

1395
01:22:55,380 --> 01:23:00,180
the last couple of years. It's
weird. To make sure you don't

1396
01:23:00,180 --> 01:23:04,440
botch the meet up, so yes, I
don't know. But she said that we

1397
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:10,440
should note that the bad milk
that PCR where these fragments

1398
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:15,180
come from, they've been feeding
cows ground up chickens, and

1399
01:23:15,180 --> 01:23:20,910
many often may be part of a call
of, of bird flu chickens. So

1400
01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:24,510
they grind up the chickens and
feed the chicken shit and the

1401
01:23:24,510 --> 01:23:29,100
chickens to some of these large
herds that Texas live would know

1402
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:32,580
about this. And bingo, you get a
little a couple of fragments of

1403
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:36,570
bird flu in the milk DAG, Gosh,
what a surprise. Because they

1404
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:43,230
because our, our industrial food
complex really doesn't care

1405
01:23:43,230 --> 01:23:46,920
about anything except you know,
getting as much profit as they

1406
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:47,400
can.

1407
01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:52,230
Adam Curry: Correct. So, but I
think that this is a larger

1408
01:23:52,230 --> 01:23:56,490
scheme that's at foot here. And
they they parlay it all into

1409
01:23:56,490 --> 01:23:58,980
well, you know, you don't want
that to be you know,

1410
01:23:58,980 --> 01:24:04,530
transferring over to humans and
just all complete nonsense. But

1411
01:24:04,530 --> 01:24:06,660
they're ramping it up and I
think they're ramping it up to

1412
01:24:06,660 --> 01:24:11,040
get rid of cows. They'll start
with milk cows and then we'll

1413
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,020
just listen to the reports
because it's ramped up a little

1414
01:24:13,020 --> 01:24:16,110
bit. We've seen this happen over
the past couple of weeks. Now we

1415
01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:20,400
know from last week's clips of
they're using PCR to test the

1416
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,860
milk. Well, you can find
anything in milk The

1417
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:26,040
Unknown: FDA says one out of
every five samples of milk and

1418
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,030
recently tested contains traces
of the bird flu. Experts say

1419
01:24:30,030 --> 01:24:33,300
that suggests more cows may be
infected than originally

1420
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:36,360
thought. Officials say
pasteurized milk remains safe to

1421
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,380
drink. So far, bird flu has been
detected in 33 herds across

1422
01:24:40,410 --> 01:24:44,400
eight states. Now the concern is
that the virus could mutate and

1423
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,640
potentially pose a larger risk
for people 33

1424
01:24:47,670 --> 01:24:49,740
Adam Curry: So there's there's
your magic number three, there's

1425
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,280
John C Dvorak: always your code.
I got more than mutate.

1426
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,290
Everything can mutate. So watch

1427
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,470
Adam Curry: out well. Okay, now
we go to by the way, I

1428
01:24:58,470 --> 01:25:01,770
John C Dvorak: also want to
queue Is the vegans of having

1429
01:25:01,770 --> 01:25:04,140
something to do with this? Oh

1430
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:05,880
Adam Curry: for sure we're just
gonna blame the vegans on

1431
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:11,010
everything of course. So that
was ABC now we go to CBS.

1432
01:25:11,220 --> 01:25:14,400
Unknown: America's dairy cows
will be tested for bird flu more

1433
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,030
closely to stop the virus from
spreading new rules were put in

1434
01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:21,960
place yesterday, after the FDA
reported finding fragments of

1435
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,820
the bird flu virus rules to rise
grocery store milk regulators

1436
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:30,630
though say there is little risk
to humans. Dr. Celine gounder is

1437
01:25:30,630 --> 01:25:33,600
a CBS News Medical contributor
and editor at large for public

1438
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,840
health at kFS. Health News. Good
morning, Dr. gounder.

1439
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:39,540
Adam Curry: I love to bring in a
doctor not a veterinarian, bring

1440
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:41,280
in a doctor. First I want

1441
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,040
Unknown: to just ask you about
that headline when I first read

1442
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,830
this yesterday, of course, you
know, alarm bells go off when

1443
01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:49,980
you hear that it's founded on
grocery store shelves and

1444
01:25:49,980 --> 01:25:51,780
pasteurized milk. You

1445
01:25:51,780 --> 01:25:54,750
Adam Curry: know that you're
right. There's I have not found

1446
01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:58,680
evidence of this yet. But I'm
pretty sure the nut SAP industry

1447
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,920
has a hand in this as well.
Almond milk? Yeah,

1448
01:26:01,950 --> 01:26:04,230
John C Dvorak: the nuts app. And
the fact that they get used that

1449
01:26:04,230 --> 01:26:08,760
word milk on their body is
criminal a and by the way, this

1450
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:15,390
is also the never ending attack
on on delicious raw milk done by

1451
01:26:15,390 --> 01:26:18,480
providers who are super clean,
because you have to be, you

1452
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,780
know, run a really tight
operation to sell raw milk in

1453
01:26:21,780 --> 01:26:24,990
the first place. But nobody
likes it. We'd rather have the

1454
01:26:24,990 --> 01:26:31,020
milk boiled. You know, because
these guys boil them out by

1455
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:32,730
that. What

1456
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,220
Unknown: do we what concerns
should we have? Should we have

1457
01:26:35,220 --> 01:26:36,060
concerns?

1458
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,150
I think we should be very clear
that the tests that came back

1459
01:26:39,150 --> 01:26:42,540
positive are for the genetic
material of the virus. This

1460
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:45,450
could just be virus fragments,
what's left over after

1461
01:26:45,450 --> 01:26:49,350
pasteurization? And so this by
itself is not a reason for

1462
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:52,710
alarm. There are additional
tests being done to see is this

1463
01:26:52,710 --> 01:26:55,740
live infectious virus or is this
just the dead virus we would

1464
01:26:55,740 --> 01:26:56,640
expect to see.

1465
01:26:57,060 --> 01:27:00,600
So drinking it you would you get
sick drinking that milk,

1466
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:01,410
presumably

1467
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,520
simply the leftovers after
pessaries pasteurization

1468
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,250
process, you should not get
sick. Now notice

1469
01:27:08,250 --> 01:27:11,730
Adam Curry: all the terms
they're using dead virus. It's

1470
01:27:11,730 --> 01:27:16,410
all very COVID de COVID. Related
this is this is a psychological

1471
01:27:16,410 --> 01:27:21,180
operation that is taking place.
And remember Texas Slim's words

1472
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:25,830
summer of Chinese pork. Let's
see what's going on. We

1473
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:29,280
Unknown: know that h five n one,
the bird flu virus is prep. It's

1474
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,040
out there. It's in the animal
population. But when it comes to

1475
01:27:32,250 --> 01:27:37,650
human risk, there has been only
one confirmed case. One or a

1476
01:27:37,650 --> 01:27:42,330
farm worker in Texas who has a
confirmed case. So what can we

1477
01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:45,510
take? What can we gather from
that when it comes to human risk

1478
01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:46,500
of transmission?

1479
01:27:46,530 --> 01:27:49,500
Well, there are some tests
ongoing, so to see if there's

1480
01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:54,150
any live infectious virus in the
milk supply. So what we do there

1481
01:27:54,150 --> 01:27:56,970
is we try to grow up any virus
what we call culture. It's that

1482
01:27:56,970 --> 01:28:00,810
kind of tests we do. Those tests
are still ongoing. We anticipate

1483
01:28:00,810 --> 01:28:04,260
those will come back negative
pasteurization works for all the

1484
01:28:04,260 --> 01:28:07,980
viruses that we've tried to test
this on so far. There's no

1485
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:10,620
reason to think it wouldn't. But
we want to confirm that that's

1486
01:28:10,620 --> 01:28:14,310
the case. The other thing we're
looking out for is do we see

1487
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:17,280
pigs infected pigs have
traditionally been the mixing

1488
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,490
vessel for human and bird flu.
And that's how you get these

1489
01:28:20,490 --> 01:28:24,600
Frankenstein, scary flus. We
have a bit of a blind spot on

1490
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,300
right now. And so we need to be
digging more into that

1491
01:28:27,330 --> 01:28:31,140
Adam Curry: this is how you get
the Frankenstein. Scary flu is

1492
01:28:31,140 --> 01:28:32,520
the scary flu.

1493
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,940
John C Dvorak: Like the
scientific terminology. Yes,

1494
01:28:35,940 --> 01:28:38,190
Adam Curry: Frankenstein. Scary
flu. All right. And now we go

1495
01:28:38,190 --> 01:28:42,030
into the final clip here of this
doctor. And she lays out the

1496
01:28:42,030 --> 01:28:42,900
real problem.

1497
01:28:43,170 --> 01:28:47,220
Unknown: Is the government doing
enough and the FDA and pharma?

1498
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,370
What are we hearing about how
these cases are being reported?

1499
01:28:50,370 --> 01:28:50,730
Or how?

1500
01:28:50,730 --> 01:28:55,200
Yeah, sure, I think there could
be more transparency and

1501
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,910
cooperation, whether it's
against USDA, or farmers,

1502
01:28:59,910 --> 01:29:03,630
allowing the USDA and public
health people on to farms to do

1503
01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:06,240
the testing. Some of the workers
are not trustful of the

1504
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,580
government and so don't want to
come forward for testing. So

1505
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:11,100
everybody needs to be working
better together. Right?

1506
01:29:11,250 --> 01:29:14,850
Adam Curry: So these are just
the dumb TV doctors. But for me,

1507
01:29:14,850 --> 01:29:20,220
it got a little more serious.
When Scott Gottlieb former FDA

1508
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:22,620
was it commissioner is

1509
01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:25,140
John C Dvorak: a former
commissioner and he's now a

1510
01:29:25,140 --> 01:29:28,710
board member of Pfizer, right?
And he's and he's got to be one

1511
01:29:28,710 --> 01:29:31,320
of the best agents that money
can buy. He's

1512
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:36,390
Adam Curry: sag AFTRA, and I
think he has I think it's United

1513
01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:42,210
Artists who is his agent, but
he's tied into not just Pfizer,

1514
01:29:42,210 --> 01:29:45,690
he's on the board there. What's
the what's the other the other

1515
01:29:46,410 --> 01:29:52,530
company that does? Is also
testing I forget the name, I

1516
01:29:52,530 --> 01:29:52,680
don't

1517
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,740
John C Dvorak: know. Doesn't
matter. Although I did test the

1518
01:29:55,740 --> 01:29:58,020
fact that he gets so much
airtime. Well, he but

1519
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,740
Adam Curry: here he really lays
it out. because this is CNBC, so

1520
01:30:01,740 --> 01:30:04,890
this is meant to be for
financial people. And he has

1521
01:30:04,890 --> 01:30:07,530
some additional details which I
thought were at least

1522
01:30:07,530 --> 01:30:11,130
interesting with a funny little
kicker from that. From that

1523
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:16,950
host, what's his name? The guy
who's, who doesn't care? who's

1524
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:20,040
been there so long he just two
or three of you. You'll know

1525
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,140
what I'm talking about, Charlie.
I think whatever. The

1526
01:30:22,140 --> 01:30:25,050
Unknown: reason why FDA and CDC
did this testing of milk has got

1527
01:30:25,290 --> 01:30:28,290
that USDA APHIS. And state
regulators wouldn't allow them

1528
01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:30,990
on the farms to do more
widespread testing, because they

1529
01:30:30,990 --> 01:30:34,020
didn't really want to turn over
those cases. And so this is a

1530
01:30:34,020 --> 01:30:34,950
bad Illumina

1531
01:30:34,980 --> 01:30:38,760
Adam Curry: Illumina. Thank you
Illumina Yeah, they do the

1532
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,120
assays and all that for the for
the testing, they were also part

1533
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,160
of the whole COVID scam. Okay,
here we go, because

1534
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,920
Unknown: they didn't really want
to turn over those cases. And so

1535
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,950
this is a backdoor way to do on
farm testing. Instead of testing

1536
01:30:49,950 --> 01:30:52,710
the cows, you test the milk. And
what we're finding is this virus

1537
01:30:52,710 --> 01:30:55,380
is much more pervasive on dairy
farms right now. They're what we

1538
01:30:55,410 --> 01:30:57,930
originally perceived. And so
that's unfortunate. Is that a

1539
01:30:57,930 --> 01:31:00,600
scary thing that could jump?
fortunate because the more that

1540
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,150
we allow this to spread and man,
mammals and more, we're tempting

1541
01:31:03,150 --> 01:31:04,980
fate that this could evolve in
ways that are threatened.

1542
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:06,750
They're not letting people on
because they don't want to call

1543
01:31:06,750 --> 01:31:07,350
the herds.

1544
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,080
This is a historical problem.
Answer

1545
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:15,180
Adam Curry: is yes. That Yes.
And if they want to go to can

1546
01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:18,810
see cattle and I will stand
there. I'll go and block the

1547
01:31:18,810 --> 01:31:23,040
feds. We do not want these
people testing your cows, even

1548
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,680
though he doesn't have dairy
cows. It'll come they're all no

1549
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,380
beef cows. Oh, it's everywhere.
Oh, oh, it's the horrible bird

1550
01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:30,750
flu. Oh, we got to call the
cows. This is

1551
01:31:30,750 --> 01:31:32,790
Unknown: a historical problem.
So when I had outbreaks of E.

1552
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:36,780
Coli in romaine lettuce, I was
my inspectors weren't allowed

1553
01:31:36,780 --> 01:31:37,920
on. So it was really

1554
01:31:39,210 --> 01:31:42,330
John C Dvorak: what he said when
I had outbreaks.

1555
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,060
Adam Curry: Yeah. When he was
FDA commissioner. Yeah, but what

1556
01:31:45,090 --> 01:31:47,640
but okay, it's just the way he
said it. I

1557
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,010
Unknown: know, this is a
historical problem. So when I

1558
01:31:50,010 --> 01:31:53,730
had outbreaks of E. Coli in
romaine lettuce, I was my

1559
01:31:53,730 --> 01:31:56,400
inspectors weren't allowed onto
the farms initially. So I sent

1560
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,520
the inspectors to test the
adjacent farms of water running

1561
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,030
off from the farms that I
thought the E coli was coming

1562
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:05,760
from. There's always been a
tension between the human health

1563
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,460
people who would want to swab
everything and animal health

1564
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:10,170
people who are worried about
some of the economic

1565
01:32:10,170 --> 01:32:12,540
implications and don't want
federal inspectors on their

1566
01:32:12,540 --> 01:32:15,360
farms. And we've seen that play
out here as well. This is a very

1567
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,960
clever move by CDC and FDA to
test the milk as a way to

1568
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,630
identify which farms have
outbreaks. Hopefully, it forces

1569
01:32:21,630 --> 01:32:24,660
the hands of agricultural
officials to allow more broad

1570
01:32:24,690 --> 01:32:26,580
protesting. So

1571
01:32:26,850 --> 01:32:29,700
Adam Curry: for him that oh,
this is very clever of CDC to

1572
01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:34,170
use PCR to find whatever they
want. This is a hoax. This is a

1573
01:32:34,170 --> 01:32:37,230
complete hoax. They're coming
for your beat me and I believe

1574
01:32:37,230 --> 01:32:40,260
this to be the losses and out
here. Here's the here's the guy,

1575
01:32:40,260 --> 01:32:41,430
he makes a funny here.

1576
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,280
John C Dvorak: Can I get any
immunity from the milk from the

1577
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:45,930
Franklins? Ah, well, how do you
know?

1578
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,190
Adam Curry: Can I get immunity
from drinking milk? You're

1579
01:32:50,190 --> 01:32:52,050
Unknown: not going to get
immunity from fragments of

1580
01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:56,430
John C Dvorak: protein? What if
I got a spike protein

1581
01:32:56,430 --> 01:32:58,440
Unknown: from an h one and one
because I would have been

1582
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:01,620
transcribed into would have to
be transcribed the protein, the

1583
01:33:01,620 --> 01:33:03,510
protein itself would probably be
inactivated? I mean,

1584
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,160
John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
There is some logic to what he

1585
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,100
says that leaves in denial.
Gottlieb's

1586
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:12,450
Adam Curry: I Homina Homina
Homina.

1587
01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:16,260
John C Dvorak: No, let me drink
more milk. I'll never get bird

1588
01:33:16,260 --> 01:33:16,620
flu.

1589
01:33:17,730 --> 01:33:19,530
Adam Curry: And then he says,
Well, you know, I mean, it's

1590
01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:22,110
just fragments. I mean, because
it's just PCR. Yeah,

1591
01:33:22,110 --> 01:33:25,470
John C Dvorak: well, actually,
an attenuated flu vaccine is is

1592
01:33:25,470 --> 01:33:26,490
fragments. Yeah.

1593
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:31,110
Adam Curry: No, because this is
a lie. This is a big lie. For

1594
01:33:31,110 --> 01:33:32,820
nefarious reasons,

1595
01:33:32,850 --> 01:33:35,190
Unknown: agricultural officials
to allow more broad broad

1596
01:33:35,190 --> 01:33:36,270
testing, can I get any

1597
01:33:36,270 --> 01:33:39,060
John C Dvorak: immunity from the
milk from the fragments of age?

1598
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:39,810
How do you know

1599
01:33:40,290 --> 01:33:42,420
Unknown: you're not gonna get
immunity from fragments of

1600
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:46,800
John C Dvorak: like protein?
What if I got a fight protein

1601
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,300
from an h1 in one because

1602
01:33:48,300 --> 01:33:50,130
Unknown: it would have been
transcribed into would have to

1603
01:33:50,130 --> 01:33:53,070
be transcribed the protein, the
protein itself would probably be

1604
01:33:53,070 --> 01:33:54,960
inactivated I mean, maybe

1605
01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:02,580
it was a vaccine is also
antiviral drugs for this

1606
01:34:02,580 --> 01:34:04,440
particular there's

1607
01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:06,570
Adam Curry: a vaccine Don't
worry, there's a vaccine, they

1608
01:34:06,570 --> 01:34:09,030
got a vaccine ready. You got a

1609
01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:12,930
John C Dvorak: vaccine. This is
all about the vaccine. It's not

1610
01:34:12,930 --> 01:34:16,950
about they want to building the
cattle or versus Texas. Slim's

1611
01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:20,370
fears or your fears about
getting rid of all animals and

1612
01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:23,370
because the vegans are trying to
take this is about selling a

1613
01:34:23,370 --> 01:34:27,540
vaccine that's going to be
coming down the pike. Spin

1614
01:34:27,540 --> 01:34:32,070
people up about oh, bird flu my
wife by the way, Mimi is one of

1615
01:34:32,070 --> 01:34:35,490
these people that is fearful of
bird flu show it has been for 20

1616
01:34:35,490 --> 01:34:39,540
years. And Adele Okay, well,
let's go get it. It's gonna be

1617
01:34:39,540 --> 01:34:40,830
mRNA Yeah,

1618
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,700
Adam Curry: people are nosy for
the cows. It's for the cows.

1619
01:34:44,730 --> 01:34:45,510
Okay, well, they can.

1620
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,830
John C Dvorak: That's not good.
No, of

1621
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:54,120
Adam Curry: course not. We don't
want mRNA in the cattle. No, but

1622
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,600
that if when he says there's a
vaccine, I'm thinking it's a

1623
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,080
vaccine for the cattle. By the
way. We We're not done there.

1624
01:35:01,110 --> 01:35:02,580
This will get Mimi spun up,

1625
01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:06,720
Unknown: the USDA is imposing a
new rule on certain chicken

1626
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,950
products to prevent poisoning.
Makers of frozen breaded and

1627
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:14,730
soft rock chicken products will
have to reduce salmonella levels

1628
01:35:14,730 --> 01:35:15,690
starting next year

1629
01:35:16,470 --> 01:35:20,790
Adam Curry: gonna reduce
salmonella levels. How about

1630
01:35:20,820 --> 01:35:24,780
zero salmonella? Is there
salmonella in everything?

1631
01:35:27,420 --> 01:35:29,370
John C Dvorak: I thought I have
a when you're done with that

1632
01:35:29,370 --> 01:35:32,490
play my salmonella clip. Now we
can discuss okay

1633
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,730
Unknown: makers of frozen
breaded and stuffed raw chicken

1634
01:35:35,730 --> 01:35:38,820
products we'll have to reduce
salmonella levels starting next

1635
01:35:38,820 --> 01:35:42,180
year, that's when the bacteria
will officially be declared an

1636
01:35:42,180 --> 01:35:45,720
adulterant in raw poultry in the
same way certain E. coli

1637
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,650
bacteria are regarded as
contaminants that must be kept

1638
01:35:49,650 --> 01:35:53,340
out of raw ground beef. The new
rules will affect products like

1639
01:35:53,340 --> 01:35:56,640
frozen chicken cordon bleu as
well as chicken Kyiv

1640
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,120
Adam Curry: she said chicken
Kyiv Don't you notice chicken

1641
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:01,950
Kyiv hello and blue

1642
01:36:01,950 --> 01:36:04,980
Unknown: as well as chicken Kyiv
the that appears to be fully

1643
01:36:04,980 --> 01:36:08,490
cooked but isn't they've been
linked to more than 200

1644
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,490
illnesses since 1998. All right,

1645
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:17,070
John C Dvorak: so hold on his
second 200 illnesses not deaths.

1646
01:36:17,250 --> 01:36:18,690
Adam Curry: Well I don't know if
she Yeah

1647
01:36:20,130 --> 01:36:24,060
John C Dvorak: 100 says 9098
Yeah, so what is that? Eight a

1648
01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:25,710
year nine doing

1649
01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:28,560
Adam Curry: pretty good. I'm
gonna play your salmonella clip

1650
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,310
now us

1651
01:36:29,310 --> 01:36:32,640
Unknown: poultry producers will
have to cut salmonella bacteria

1652
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,170
and some chicken products same

1653
01:36:34,170 --> 01:36:39,150
Adam Curry: lady I don't think
it is wow it sounds odd sounds

1654
01:36:39,150 --> 01:36:40,320
to me like the same way

1655
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:41,580
John C Dvorak: the million
million

1656
01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:45,150
Adam Curry: that was this is
this is tripping me out Hold on

1657
01:36:45,150 --> 01:36:47,580
a second. Let me play the
freaking

1658
01:36:47,580 --> 01:36:48,930
John C Dvorak: out Man figure it
out man.

1659
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,590
Adam Curry: Let me play the last
bit of my clip and then I'll go

1660
01:36:52,590 --> 01:36:53,100
into yours

1661
01:36:53,130 --> 01:36:55,500
Unknown: that appears to be
fully cooked but isn't they've

1662
01:36:55,500 --> 01:37:00,030
been linked to more than 200
illnesses. Since 1998.

1663
01:37:00,060 --> 01:37:03,750
US poultry producers will have
to cut salmonella bacteria

1664
01:37:03,780 --> 01:37:07,200
different but same Millia in
some chicken products to very

1665
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,890
low levels to prevent food
poisoning. A final Agriculture

1666
01:37:10,890 --> 01:37:14,430
Department regulation issue
today applies to frozen breaded

1667
01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:17,640
and stuffed raw chicken. It
takes effect next year.

1668
01:37:17,970 --> 01:37:22,200
salmonella poisoning causes
roughly 420 deaths and 1.3

1669
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,990
million infections annually in
the US

1670
01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:27,720
Adam Curry: was a little
different report there. Yep.

1671
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:29,760
That's interesting. So

1672
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,860
John C Dvorak: what does this
all mean? It means as whoever's

1673
01:37:31,860 --> 01:37:37,170
got stock and Clorox you should
probably invest more. The this

1674
01:37:37,170 --> 01:37:40,470
is a What are you gonna do? How
do you get to salmonella? If you

1675
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:43,470
dip to chicken? You get your
chicken going on the line.

1676
01:37:43,470 --> 01:37:45,750
There's hundreds of these
chickens 1000s of

1677
01:37:46,170 --> 01:37:47,220
Adam Curry: Bleach Bleach,

1678
01:37:47,250 --> 01:37:51,360
John C Dvorak: you drop it into
a vat of bleach. Yeah. And you

1679
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,060
pull it out of the bleach you
rinse it off, it's going to

1680
01:37:54,090 --> 01:37:58,650
stink. It's also going to create
that I don't know if people some

1681
01:37:58,650 --> 01:38:01,410
people would notice this was
some vacuum pack some of you

1682
01:38:01,410 --> 01:38:06,000
would get it some places you you
cut the bag open and a stench of

1683
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,860
sulphurs comes out. This is
largely due to the big treatment

1684
01:38:10,860 --> 01:38:16,170
that took place and affected the
the surface of the product.

1685
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:19,410
Yeah, they're gonna dip the
chicken and bleach to what it

1686
01:38:19,410 --> 01:38:22,350
is. There's probably some
company that makes a special

1687
01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:23,490
dipping device.

1688
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,620
Adam Curry: How about this? How
about we just get some you know

1689
01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:29,940
what? How about you get the book
too many eggs from too many

1690
01:38:29,940 --> 01:38:31,170
eggs.com Too

1691
01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:32,940
John C Dvorak: many A's dot com
it's got all

1692
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:37,890
Adam Curry: one place to
advertise Mimi's book many

1693
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:41,730
eggs.com with many handy tips on
how to not get salmonella from

1694
01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:43,920
John C Dvorak: you can get a
free PDF just go to mini

1695
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,160
Adam Curry: freeze all free free

1696
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,480
John C Dvorak: is free free free

1697
01:38:48,660 --> 01:38:52,200
Adam Curry: and while you're
there go to no agenda abc.com

1698
01:38:52,380 --> 01:38:58,950
not free but there's a cool
coloring book for the kid exit

1699
01:38:58,950 --> 01:39:00,390
strategy and play

1700
01:39:02,730 --> 01:39:04,860
John C Dvorak: although I will
say the coloring book is

1701
01:39:04,860 --> 01:39:05,610
dynamite

1702
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,470
Adam Curry: yeah why I liked the
book that's the $33 book that's

1703
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:11,160
much better because

1704
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,160
John C Dvorak: you get when you
get your shed no yeah well was

1705
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:15,120
shipped I got

1706
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,550
Adam Curry: I got a notification
it was shipped I got a

1707
01:39:17,550 --> 01:39:21,060
notification. Yes. Is it a
hardcover? Is that hard?

1708
01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:23,370
John C Dvorak: Yeah. It's hard
cover this a children's books

1709
01:39:23,370 --> 01:39:25,530
Classic is hard. Shiny cover.

1710
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,670
Adam Curry: Yes. And we suggest
that you that you that you read

1711
01:39:29,670 --> 01:39:32,550
this with your children when
they have awkward questions like

1712
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:35,490
What is shut up slave mean? I
mean, these could be awkward

1713
01:39:35,490 --> 01:39:36,030
questions.

1714
01:39:37,710 --> 01:39:39,570
John C Dvorak: It doesn't really
explain it.

1715
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,240
Adam Curry: No, that's why the
kid will have awkward questions.

1716
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:44,670
John C Dvorak: Shut out slave.

1717
01:39:46,050 --> 01:39:48,840
Adam Curry: The kid will have
awkward questions. So this this

1718
01:39:49,140 --> 01:39:56,430
is for kids from all over all
ages. from three to 33. Exactly.

1719
01:39:57,660 --> 01:40:00,120
John C Dvorak: So we get that
out of the way. How about But

1720
01:40:01,020 --> 01:40:04,080
Adam Curry: I'm just saying. I
think they are coming for your

1721
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:09,000
cattle and you'd like to see you
wait, you wait. You wait. They

1722
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,820
are coming for your beef. You

1723
01:40:11,850 --> 01:40:13,500
John C Dvorak: well I think
they've been trying to come to

1724
01:40:13,500 --> 01:40:16,020
the beef for as long as they
we've been alive

1725
01:40:16,110 --> 01:40:18,420
Adam Curry: they have but this
is it. They've got a line going

1726
01:40:18,420 --> 01:40:21,030
on no pick. They got a lot of
power.

1727
01:40:21,390 --> 01:40:25,740
John C Dvorak: Good luck. Here's
my juice I carry over clips

1728
01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:26,700
Texas border.

1729
01:40:27,330 --> 01:40:30,120
Adam Curry: Oh, is that still
going on from that phony Greg

1730
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:30,450
Abbott

1731
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:33,960
Unknown: a grand jury now indict
a more than 100 illegal

1732
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,990
immigrants for allegedly
storming the Texas border.

1733
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,050
Meanwhile, a government watchdog
finds that the Biden

1734
01:40:40,050 --> 01:40:43,800
administration used border wall
funds for environmental planning

1735
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:44,520
instead.

1736
01:40:45,090 --> 01:40:45,600
What

1737
01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:52,410
a Texas grand jury on Tuesday
indicted more than 140 illegal

1738
01:40:52,410 --> 01:40:55,950
immigrants on misdemeanor
writing charges. That's for an

1739
01:40:55,950 --> 01:41:00,120
alleged mass attempt to breach
the US Mexico border earlier

1740
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,050
this month. This comes just a
day after a county judge threw

1741
01:41:04,050 --> 01:41:08,340
the case out saying there was no
probable cause for the arrests.

1742
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,420
Speaking on MTV News Today,
retired ice and Homeland

1743
01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:16,740
Security Officer Victor Avila
says he doesn't understand why

1744
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:21,000
the county judge dismissed the
case. Arguing officers always

1745
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,580
present at least some probable
cause

1746
01:41:23,790 --> 01:41:26,730
never happened to me in my
career when I arrested someone

1747
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,290
on probable cause and then
presented them before a judge

1748
01:41:31,290 --> 01:41:34,830
and the judge decided that there
wasn't any goes to the bigger

1749
01:41:34,830 --> 01:41:38,520
picture here that there's
politics involved. For some

1750
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,910
reason, you're illegal in this
country, you seem to get

1751
01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:44,760
additional protections. Yeah,
exactly.

1752
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,910
John C Dvorak: The American Way
This is, uh, hold on a second.

1753
01:41:48,420 --> 01:41:53,040
This is in Texas. Yeah. You have
a judge that's thrown out.

1754
01:41:53,580 --> 01:41:57,240
Despite the evidence, we all saw
it and charging the border this

1755
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,600
this group of people, and now
there's no probable cause. Let

1756
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:05,820
him go. What is going on in your
state? Because you're always

1757
01:42:05,820 --> 01:42:09,120
condemning California. What
about this guy? No,

1758
01:42:09,150 --> 01:42:13,470
Adam Curry: we're, our state is
run by a globalist shill who

1759
01:42:13,470 --> 01:42:18,300
gets a pass because he's in a
wheelchair. That's my, that's my

1760
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:21,960
stance. That's what's happening.
He is on the wrong side of all

1761
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,560
of this, and he's a showboater.
He goes down that border to

1762
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,910
Eagle Pass. with it. It's a
little bit of fence and complete

1763
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:33,990
open border two miles on either
side. And he pretends like he's

1764
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:35,010
doing something great.

1765
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,910
John C Dvorak: He's no hard to
just

1766
01:42:40,350 --> 01:42:43,950
Unknown: explain how he managed
to secure the indictments. He

1767
01:42:43,950 --> 01:42:48,450
told the El Paso Times that we
presented the case as a whole.

1768
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:53,040
We presented videotape evidence
of what happened. The grand jury

1769
01:42:53,070 --> 01:42:57,390
believed there was in fact
probable cause. And in other

1770
01:42:57,390 --> 01:43:01,140
immigration related news, the
Government Accountability Office

1771
01:43:01,170 --> 01:43:05,070
issued a new report, it found
that the Biden administration

1772
01:43:05,070 --> 01:43:09,270
spent funds allocated to the
border wall, partly to conduct a

1773
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:13,620
standard environmental planning
instead. This is despite

1774
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:17,130
Congress approving the funds for
Homeland Security to build a

1775
01:43:17,130 --> 01:43:22,830
border barrier between 2018 and
2021. Republicans on the House

1776
01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:26,490
Budget Committee commented on
the new report, saying DHS

1777
01:43:26,490 --> 01:43:30,270
continues to play political
games that stall contractors and

1778
01:43:30,270 --> 01:43:34,380
prevent barriers from being
built, effectively finding a way

1779
01:43:34,380 --> 01:43:36,570
to dodge the law. Okay,

1780
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,290
Adam Curry: so I, um, thank you
for bringing this up. Because

1781
01:43:40,290 --> 01:43:46,410
we'll also bring in Florida,
also so tough on immigration. We

1782
01:43:46,410 --> 01:43:50,430
need to remind everybody that
this is the this is the mission.

1783
01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:53,070
This is the mission that comes
from the true Overlords of the

1784
01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:56,820
world, which is the money
people. And we need to have

1785
01:43:56,820 --> 01:43:59,910
immigration coming in. We're not
making children enough here,

1786
01:44:00,060 --> 01:44:03,690
despite the ozempic babies,
which is a plus. For everyone

1787
01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:08,490
who's on those Empik your birth
control doesn't work. So, you

1788
01:44:08,490 --> 01:44:12,270
know, that we got we're gonna
have a little bit of a jump in

1789
01:44:12,270 --> 01:44:19,530
newborns. But we need to have
replacements for people who are

1790
01:44:19,530 --> 01:44:23,700
not working don't want to work
or just too old to work. And

1791
01:44:23,700 --> 01:44:26,970
that's the only way we win is to
keep and to keep wages low

1792
01:44:26,970 --> 01:44:30,930
because the financial system has
a real hard time with those 12

1793
01:44:30,930 --> 01:44:36,090
rate cuts we're supposed to get
this year. So we need to

1794
01:44:36,090 --> 01:44:39,990
suppress wages. Everyone who's
doing gig work, it's now done by

1795
01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:43,530
Venezuelans or others who are
quickly getting work permits.

1796
01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:47,940
This is we're being robbed it's
a gyp we're being robbed. Now

1797
01:44:47,940 --> 01:44:51,450
let's go to Florida because Oh,
yeah, oh, the door the border.

1798
01:44:51,450 --> 01:44:54,750
So important. Thank you to our
producer for catching this a

1799
01:44:54,750 --> 01:45:00,270
press release from March 12. So
just just a month ago boca

1800
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:05,370
ratone this company, a Geo
Group, who are on the New York

1801
01:45:05,370 --> 01:45:10,350
Stock Exchange ticker Geo. The
Geo Group announced his five

1802
01:45:10,350 --> 01:45:13,710
year contract five five year
contract to provide air

1803
01:45:13,710 --> 01:45:17,190
operations support services for
US Immigration and Customs

1804
01:45:17,190 --> 01:45:22,770
Enforcement. What do you think
that's for? has to fly him in?

1805
01:45:24,060 --> 01:45:26,790
John C Dvorak: It's why make him
do all that work of actually

1806
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:27,630
walking in?

1807
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:29,010
Adam Curry: Yes. $25 million.

1808
01:45:30,330 --> 01:45:33,540
John C Dvorak: Once they get in,
you fly him around. And from

1809
01:45:33,540 --> 01:45:36,780
that point, now it's too much
work. Just fly him straight to

1810
01:45:36,930 --> 01:45:38,010
sue city.

1811
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,620
Adam Curry: Right. And that's a
Florida company. So there's your

1812
01:45:40,650 --> 01:45:42,420
your great governor in Florida.

1813
01:45:42,750 --> 01:45:44,970
John C Dvorak: Is it a Geo
Group, that private prison

1814
01:45:44,970 --> 01:45:45,690
operation?

1815
01:45:47,550 --> 01:45:51,390
Adam Curry: Let me see what else
they do. Oh, that's a good

1816
01:45:51,390 --> 01:46:02,250
question. I don't know if that's
what they do. Geo Group. I'm not

1817
01:46:02,250 --> 01:46:06,090
sure. I'm not sure. I can tell
you Okay, environmental later.

1818
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:10,890
Yeah. But it's it's all it's all
a joke.

1819
01:46:11,550 --> 01:46:14,580
John C Dvorak: Kiss. It is. It's
a joke. And people don't

1820
01:46:14,580 --> 01:46:18,240
appreciate that we develop these
theses and

1821
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:19,890
Unknown: then come bring it
forward.

1822
01:46:20,910 --> 01:46:25,590
John C Dvorak: Nobody else is
doing this. No. Oh. And then

1823
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:29,910
we're condemned. Now we're
condemned because you don't like

1824
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:33,690
Jews. Oh, you like juice? Oh,
you don't like like juice? What

1825
01:46:33,690 --> 01:46:37,050
do we don't like or dislike
juice? And do we like people?

1826
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:37,740
Alright,

1827
01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:40,350
Adam Curry: so here's another
thesis we had which I believe is

1828
01:46:40,350 --> 01:46:46,380
coming true. The Taylor Swift up
now we call the Satanist up

1829
01:46:46,410 --> 01:46:51,180
well, no, but we called it the
it was the AI. All of that we

1830
01:46:51,180 --> 01:46:55,260
were flooded with AI we were we
were given the message that you

1831
01:46:55,260 --> 01:46:58,890
know, we can make AI can do
anything. Look at Taylor Swift

1832
01:46:58,890 --> 01:47:03,060
is doing porn. It's all AI. And
what was the thesis we developed

1833
01:47:03,270 --> 01:47:09,060
that this will be used? Probably
when someone does something

1834
01:47:09,060 --> 01:47:11,520
wrong. They'll just say I was
AI.

1835
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:14,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course.
That's what you do. That's what

1836
01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:16,470
I would do. Let's go to
Baltimore

1837
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:18,930
Adam Curry: being audio clips
circulating in Pikesville has

1838
01:47:18,930 --> 01:47:20,070
many parents concerns.

1839
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:22,890
Unknown: So the recording
contains racist and anti semitic

1840
01:47:22,890 --> 01:47:26,070
comments allegedly made by the
principal of Pikesville High

1841
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:28,890
School but there are a lot of
concerns about the validity of

1842
01:47:28,890 --> 01:47:31,620
the audio. And if it could be
faked, that'd be a matter of two

1843
01:47:31,620 --> 01:47:34,410
news is Carol Burnett joins us
live from Pikeville this

1844
01:47:34,410 --> 01:47:36,990
morning. So Kara, a lot of
unanswered questions with the

1845
01:47:36,990 --> 01:47:38,520
story. What do we know so far?

1846
01:47:38,670 --> 01:47:42,120
Yeah, absolutely. A lot of
unanswered questions for sure.

1847
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,870
Now, we do know that a lot of
parents are outraged. But the

1848
01:47:45,870 --> 01:47:49,380
questions remain. Is it real?
Well, we have yet to

1849
01:47:49,380 --> 01:47:52,290
authenticate the clip. So we
will not be airing the audio but

1850
01:47:52,770 --> 01:47:58,140
speculation may be aI generated
to sound exactly like principal

1851
01:47:58,140 --> 01:48:02,790
Eric eyes words. Now we also
spoke with a UMBC cybersecurity

1852
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:06,510
professor who says AI generated
clips are on the rise

1853
01:48:06,570 --> 01:48:08,040
you have to do is take a deep
breath

1854
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:13,380
and stop and think and do some
due diligence. Let the experts

1855
01:48:13,380 --> 01:48:17,220
look at this recording and see
is this a real recording? Was

1856
01:48:17,220 --> 01:48:20,070
this generated by someone? Some
type of technology technical

1857
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:21,480
tool? Okay,

1858
01:48:21,870 --> 01:48:25,080
Adam Curry: so they won't play
the audio because it hasn't been

1859
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,350
authenticated. But we are the no
agenda podcast. So I'm going to

1860
01:48:28,350 --> 01:48:33,210
play the audio of this
Pikesville High School principal

1861
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:37,140
in Baltimore. And I want the
troll room to pay attention. I

1862
01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:40,650
want to take a little tally.
What do we think? Is this real?

1863
01:48:41,130 --> 01:48:44,490
Or is this AI generated? Here we
go. You know,

1864
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,250
Unknown: I seriously don't
understand why I have to

1865
01:48:47,250 --> 01:48:49,770
constantly put up with these
dumbasses here every day.

1866
01:48:52,350 --> 01:48:55,170
Between these ungrateful black
kids who can't test their way

1867
01:48:55,170 --> 01:48:58,350
out of a paper bag, or these
teachers who don't get it, how

1868
01:48:58,350 --> 01:49:00,390
hard is it to get the students
to meet their grade level

1869
01:49:00,390 --> 01:49:04,770
expectations? Lawrence and
Rabanal should have never been

1870
01:49:04,770 --> 01:49:09,480
hired. Don't let me get started
on TJ I'm going to drag his

1871
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:13,920
black ass out here one way or
another. I'm gonna get something

1872
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:14,280
to stick.

1873
01:49:15,390 --> 01:49:17,820
I'm just so sick of the
inadequacies of these people.

1874
01:49:20,250 --> 01:49:22,800
And if I have to get one more
complaint from one more Jew in

1875
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:23,640
this community,

1876
01:49:23,790 --> 01:49:28,110
Adam Curry: I'm gonna die.
Alright, so he's very

1877
01:49:28,110 --> 01:49:32,730
polarizing. He calls out blacks
and he calls out the Jews for

1878
01:49:32,730 --> 01:49:37,050
complaining. What do you think
John real or AI?

1879
01:49:38,490 --> 01:49:42,480
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, I
didn't notice the I was just I

1880
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:48,000
never heard the guy's voice is
his real voice. It just if I was

1881
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,790
presented that out of the blue,
I would say it was really just

1882
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:57,120
some guided back room grousing.
In this I was shown otherwise by

1883
01:49:57,450 --> 01:50:01,050
some sort of a sonogram not what
not to say sonogram but that's

1884
01:50:01,050 --> 01:50:06,210
sonar but a voice gram is one of
those. Somebody could show me

1885
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:10,380
that powers AI. So I'd vote yes,
it was real.

1886
01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:13,230
Adam Curry: I think it's real as
well. Now there were these

1887
01:50:13,260 --> 01:50:18,600
annoying drops with that was an
edit of this, I guess

1888
01:50:19,980 --> 01:50:24,090
John C Dvorak: we can assume
that the that it was cut down to

1889
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,090
the pauses were taken out, we
can assume that because we do

1890
01:50:27,090 --> 01:50:27,720
that and I'm

1891
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,960
Adam Curry: informed that
Pikesville is on the Jewish side

1892
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,560
of town, predominantly Jewish
side of town. So that kind of

1893
01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:35,100
adds so

1894
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:37,830
John C Dvorak: you can see he's
complaining about your Yeah,

1895
01:50:38,940 --> 01:50:41,970
Adam Curry: I'm saying the Jews
are complaining, complaining,

1896
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:44,760
John C Dvorak: but guess what?
Oh, don't

1897
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:50,460
Adam Curry: go there. Don't say
it. Don't say it. Yeah, I think

1898
01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:56,640
it's real. And I think this is
our first in the wild use of AI

1899
01:50:56,670 --> 01:51:02,520
to cover up a boo boo but yeah,
I guess I guess to cover up a

1900
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:06,330
boo boo. And say, No, man. Yeah.
Oh, it's

1901
01:51:06,330 --> 01:51:07,200
John C Dvorak: a hot mic.

1902
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,320
Adam Curry: It sounds like you
know, someone under their coat

1903
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:13,410
recording it on their smartphone
or something. Yeah,

1904
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:18,630
John C Dvorak: I would buy it.
Unless I was shown otherwise by

1905
01:51:18,630 --> 01:51:21,750
an expert. And there are experts
out there. And those guys by the

1906
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:25,470
way, if you have kids, you want
to go through life and you don't

1907
01:51:25,470 --> 01:51:30,120
want to have to really work your
ass off. Get into discovering,

1908
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:35,100
you know, the technology of
finding problems with AI. I

1909
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:39,240
mean, just as a countermeasure,
that is a lifetime the debt at

1910
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,970
least from this point the way I
see it was a lifetime job.

1911
01:51:42,150 --> 01:51:46,920
Finding fake photos finding AI
art findings actually found a

1912
01:51:47,670 --> 01:51:49,380
article I have an AI clip.

1913
01:51:49,740 --> 01:51:52,500
Adam Curry: Well, I'm gonna lead
you into that it was an article

1914
01:51:54,510 --> 01:52:04,770
from a science, the like this. l
pace. Excessive use of words

1915
01:52:04,770 --> 01:52:10,500
like commendable and meticulous
suggests chat GPT has been used

1916
01:52:10,770 --> 01:52:15,330
in 1000s of scientific studies.
Well, I can believe this, a

1917
01:52:15,330 --> 01:52:18,840
London librarian has analyzed
millions of articles in search

1918
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,840
of uncommon terms used by
artificial intelligence

1919
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:26,850
programs. And so the librarian
Andrew gray made a very

1920
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,390
surprising discovery analyze 5
million scientific studies

1921
01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:35,220
published last year and detected
a sudden rise in the use of

1922
01:52:35,220 --> 01:52:41,010
certain words such as nice
meticulously up 130 7% intricate

1923
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:47,760
commendable and meticulous. I
think he's onto something here.

1924
01:52:48,510 --> 01:52:52,470
John C Dvorak: I agree. He's
totally onto something. Isn't

1925
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:56,310
that interesting? Yeah, I think
this is the kind of then this is

1926
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:57,150
the future.

1927
01:52:59,550 --> 01:53:02,340
Adam Curry: Kids get into it.
There you go. That now there's a

1928
01:53:02,340 --> 01:53:07,380
librarian we can we can respect
doing some work by which

1929
01:53:07,380 --> 01:53:08,010
libraries

1930
01:53:08,010 --> 01:53:09,990
John C Dvorak: actually are very
respectful. Yeah,

1931
01:53:10,020 --> 01:53:12,540
Adam Curry: but you should you
should talk to the women here

1932
01:53:12,540 --> 01:53:15,180
about the librarian and
Fredericksburg school.

1933
01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:18,750
John C Dvorak: What she said
except for

1934
01:53:18,750 --> 01:53:21,780
Adam Curry: her, just adjust her
or him I even over to her I

1935
01:53:21,930 --> 01:53:22,620
don't even know Okay,

1936
01:53:22,620 --> 01:53:24,570
John C Dvorak: here we go. This
is what Jennifer did. This is

1937
01:53:24,570 --> 01:53:26,730
the AI scandal from a couple of
weeks ago.

1938
01:53:28,050 --> 01:53:29,670
Adam Curry: What Jennifer did
here we go

1939
01:53:29,730 --> 01:53:32,280
Unknown: to new Netflix True
Crime documentary what Jennifer

1940
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,790
did tell us the story of a young
Canadian woman involved in a

1941
01:53:35,790 --> 01:53:39,840
2010 murder for hire scheme
targeting her parents. It was a

1942
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:44,250
situation that I could never
have imagined. There's been some

1943
01:53:44,250 --> 01:53:47,790
criticism not because the movie
is overly grisly or anything but

1944
01:53:47,970 --> 01:53:51,300
because people suspect the
filmmakers use generative AI in

1945
01:53:51,300 --> 01:53:54,540
the dark. That's just one of a
handful of stories about AI in

1946
01:53:54,540 --> 01:53:57,000
movie making that popped up this
week here with us to break them

1947
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:02,160
all down is Mrs. Chloe Veltman.
Hey, Chloe. Hi. Demetri what

1948
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:06,240
Jennifer did allegedly use AI
and why are people so mad about

1949
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:07,530
it? Well,

1950
01:54:07,530 --> 01:54:12,540
social media has gone bonkers
about what AI generated or

1951
01:54:12,540 --> 01:54:15,450
manipulated photographs of the
young woman at the center of the

1952
01:54:15,450 --> 01:54:18,180
film Jennifer pan. She is
currently serving a life

1953
01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:21,720
sentence for a kill for hire
attack that killed her mother

1954
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:25,350
and severely injured her father.
So the images appeared around

1955
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:28,380
the half hour mark in the movie
when a high school friend named

1956
01:54:28,380 --> 01:54:31,200
Ian describes pan's personality,
Jennifer,

1957
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:35,610
you know, was bubbly, happy,
confident, and very genuine. His

1958
01:54:35,610 --> 01:54:38,820
words were accompanied by series
of images showing a young and a

1959
01:54:38,820 --> 01:54:41,880
Boolean pattern. But if you look
closely, there are these weird

1960
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:46,380
glitches for instance, fingers
they're all mangled. And human

1961
01:54:46,380 --> 01:54:48,960
hands can be a sign that an
image has been manipulated

1962
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,770
because they're really tricky to
generate and edit. So people

1963
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,860
calling the alleged image
manipulation disgraceful on

1964
01:54:55,860 --> 01:54:59,610
social media. To quote one
Reddit user, it devalues and

1965
01:54:59,610 --> 01:55:02,610
betray The whole idea of true
crime not to mention mocking the

1966
01:55:02,610 --> 01:55:06,120
victims by distorting the facts.
What have we heard from Netflix

1967
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,090
and the filmmakers? Well, NPR
reached out to Netflix for

1968
01:55:09,090 --> 01:55:11,820
comments and they didn't want to
talk about it. But the film's

1969
01:55:11,820 --> 01:55:15,990
executive producer Jeremy
Grimaldi denied the use of AI in

1970
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:18,180
an interview he gave her the
Toronto Star published on

1971
01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:18,750
Friday.

1972
01:55:21,660 --> 01:55:24,720
John C Dvorak: Okay, they
claimed it was Photoshop, and it

1973
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:28,230
was just writing, you know, beef
up in him. No, you can tell.

1974
01:55:28,980 --> 01:55:33,690
Any, you can tell, I can tell
almost I'd say 99% of the people

1975
01:55:33,690 --> 01:55:39,330
that produce this show can tell
an AI image. Not not all of

1976
01:55:39,330 --> 01:55:42,960
them, but you can tell the ones
that are typically screwed up

1977
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:46,920
and you have somebody's hand
she's doing a piece sign. And

1978
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,730
she's got like, you know, just a
mangled hand it looks like

1979
01:55:51,060 --> 01:55:55,020
something that went through a
meat grinder. It's just It was

1980
01:55:55,020 --> 01:55:58,770
obviously AI and it's nothing if
Photoshop Creek Photoshop

1981
01:55:58,770 --> 01:56:04,890
doesn't create mangling or
cross-eyed or big giant boobs,

1982
01:56:04,890 --> 01:56:08,730
like you know, typical on some
of these AI generated pictures.

1983
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,150
Yeah, it was AI and so they just
didn't want to admit it because

1984
01:56:12,150 --> 01:56:15,900
it was in a slopped it together
the way I said it, because

1985
01:56:15,900 --> 01:56:19,800
anyone with a with a keen eye
would spot these images as such

1986
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,740
Adam Curry: an outrage mama true
fake

1987
01:56:23,820 --> 01:56:28,200
John C Dvorak: outrage, but it's
it's getting into everything

1988
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:28,620
this?

1989
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,600
Adam Curry: No, it's everybody's
heads are twisted. You know, the

1990
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:37,020
title. What Jennifer did made me
makes me think of, we're talking

1991
01:56:37,020 --> 01:56:40,260
about the last show about
Jennifer Aniston. People calling

1992
01:56:40,260 --> 01:56:44,280
her Jennifer Madison like every
every celebrity actress is now a

1993
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:50,550
dude on online. And I was at
church this morning and someone

1994
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:53,580
came up to me and said, Oh, you
need to tell John about

1995
01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:57,480
Victoria's Secret. It's called
Victoria's Secret for a reason

1996
01:56:59,850 --> 01:57:01,710
they're all dudes just so you
know.

1997
01:57:02,970 --> 01:57:03,930
Unknown: All dudes

1998
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:10,350
Adam Curry: Hey, some very sad
news for the no agenda hams. We

1999
01:57:10,350 --> 01:57:14,760
still have a lot of them. We get
a lot of 70 threes. He's got a

2000
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,000
lot of 70 threes. John and I are
hams. I'm keto five Alpha.

2001
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,370
Charlie, Charlie. John, what's
your callsign

2002
01:57:21,540 --> 01:57:25,980
John C Dvorak: KJ six liquid
natural gas. And

2003
01:57:26,010 --> 01:57:28,710
Adam Curry: I am on the VAR AC
so you can find me there. I'm

2004
01:57:28,710 --> 01:57:33,150
beaconing every 15 minutes. I
will continue to do that. Here's

2005
01:57:33,150 --> 01:57:39,000
the sad news. MF j is ceasing
production. You further MFJ

2006
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:39,960
enterprises.

2007
01:57:40,350 --> 01:57:40,740
John C Dvorak: No,

2008
01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:45,090
Adam Curry: this is the guy who
came up with must be 1000

2009
01:57:45,090 --> 01:57:52,770
designs for Antanas and Morse
code keys MF J I mean that they

2010
01:57:53,220 --> 01:57:57,690
and he would get college
students to put them together.

2011
01:57:58,020 --> 01:58:05,400
After 52 years. They're closing
shop. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's

2012
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:10,020
because you know, which includes
high gain Cushcraft antennas

2013
01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:15,030
Meraj vetronics, high gain Amera
Tron. And these these are

2014
01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:19,380
marquee names. That's all gone

2015
01:58:19,410 --> 01:58:22,290
Unknown: when the apocalypse
comes where the guys who are

2016
01:58:22,290 --> 01:58:24,840
going to save the world, right?

2017
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:28,830
Adam Curry: It is that's it's an
institution. It's like Bob Heil,

2018
01:58:28,830 --> 01:58:32,670
dying. You know, it's an
institution. So the closing that

2019
01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:37,860
up, everyone's into the new
stuff. What does that? Ah, it's

2020
01:58:37,860 --> 01:58:42,000
the mesh stuff called MeSH
tastic. If you heard of this,

2021
01:58:42,030 --> 01:58:44,130
John C Dvorak: it was Yeah, I
have. There's some couple of

2022
01:58:44,130 --> 01:58:48,690
things like that. There's a
screwy ideas floating around.

2023
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:51,180
Well, there are a lot of people
using them illegal. I don't

2024
01:58:51,180 --> 01:58:51,510
know.

2025
01:58:53,070 --> 01:58:56,580
Adam Curry: Hey, you don't need
a ham license. Mesh tasks. You

2026
01:58:56,580 --> 01:59:01,140
know, a lot of people are really
into mesh tastic. And so it's

2027
01:59:01,170 --> 01:59:05,640
basically small little radios.
And then you can create a mesh

2028
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,640
network amongst your buddies.
While you're all greasing up

2029
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:15,450
your AR fifteens. You can send
text messages, I think I'm fine

2030
01:59:15,450 --> 01:59:21,090
with my, with my 20 meter rig,
hooked up to a wire seems to be

2031
01:59:21,090 --> 01:59:25,650
doing just fine. I reach all
over the country. With that 12

2032
01:59:25,650 --> 01:59:27,510
Watts, I'm fine with that.

2033
01:59:29,010 --> 01:59:35,880
John C Dvorak: So I ran into a
deal a deal. Time and it was

2034
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,400
just a fluke. And I don't think
you can find this page if you

2035
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:42,720
want it to. But I am going to
put it in the newsletter because

2036
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:44,970
people are bailing out from the
newsletter because there's

2037
01:59:44,970 --> 01:59:47,190
nothing valuable in there. I
don't know this should be

2038
01:59:47,190 --> 01:59:49,830
output. I'm not going to tell
you the link or where it even

2039
01:59:49,830 --> 01:59:55,050
comes from. But I'm gonna put it
in the newsletter. So I ran and

2040
01:59:55,050 --> 01:59:59,970
I got one of these things. I
found what do you find? A reef

2041
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,280
rubbished knuck, five from
Intel, which is twice as fast as

2042
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:13,710
the baling said I have. And I
use a nut for to do the podcast

2043
02:00:13,740 --> 02:00:18,300
and it happens to be a nuk.
Five. It's the older ones that I

2044
02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:19,620
think they're eight years this
was

2045
02:00:19,650 --> 02:00:21,870
Adam Curry: what's the what's
the guts, what's the power?

2046
02:00:21,870 --> 02:00:24,570
What's the what's the frequency?
It's

2047
02:00:24,570 --> 02:00:29,790
John C Dvorak: got a, I think
it's an i Five of some sort. And

2048
02:00:29,790 --> 02:00:30,390
it was,

2049
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:33,270
Adam Curry: well run what's my
Beelink? Because I have is the

2050
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:36,120
John C Dvorak: guy I guarantee
as a seller and I

2051
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:39,120
Adam Curry: run the I run the
entire production on a Beelink

2052
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:40,140
here. Yeah, no.

2053
02:00:40,140 --> 02:00:44,160
John C Dvorak: So you have this
amazing product for 168 or $200.

2054
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:47,670
You get that Beelink does
everything. This nut five is

2055
02:00:47,670 --> 02:00:52,350
twice as fast as refurbished,
but it's twice as fast. It's got

2056
02:00:52,350 --> 02:00:56,190
more features, and 68 bucks.

2057
02:00:57,180 --> 02:00:58,920
Adam Curry: does and does that
include windows

2058
02:01:00,570 --> 02:01:05,760
John C Dvorak: and it includes
windows. Wow. So you have a

2059
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:10,560
fresh version of Windows 68
bucks is twice as fast as your

2060
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,760
Beelink it's dynamite product.
And I stumbled on it by

2061
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:19,860
accident. And I said well this
is ridiculous. I bought one got

2062
02:01:19,860 --> 02:01:24,690
it. It's a little truck. It'd be
I mean it fit this how much much

2063
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:31,110
onboard RAM it's a little light
in the loafers it's got four

2064
02:01:31,110 --> 02:01:35,190
gigs, four gigs gigs of RAM and
124

2065
02:01:35,190 --> 02:01:37,860
Adam Curry: gigs of ram you need
at least eight to to run

2066
02:01:37,860 --> 02:01:38,700
anything you can

2067
02:01:38,700 --> 02:01:41,460
John C Dvorak: buy you can go
buy a little eight for nothing.

2068
02:01:41,460 --> 02:01:41,790
This is

2069
02:01:41,790 --> 02:01:45,240
Adam Curry: old. Yeah, but then
but then that's not stills.

2070
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:45,750
Okay, all

2071
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:48,030
John C Dvorak: right. Maybe it's
gonna cost you 80 bucks total

2072
02:01:48,060 --> 02:01:51,480
Adam Curry: Yeah, but no wonder
your spreadsheet freezes and so

2073
02:01:51,510 --> 02:01:51,720
no,

2074
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:55,500
John C Dvorak: we're not using
it now. Oh, I my little neck is

2075
02:01:55,500 --> 02:01:56,580
loaded to the gills with

2076
02:01:57,120 --> 02:02:01,260
Adam Curry: Oh, tell me what's
your what just knock god I'm

2077
02:02:01,260 --> 02:02:08,790
John C Dvorak: just it's got 16
gigs plus 256 SSD. said Yeah,

2078
02:02:08,820 --> 02:02:12,990
which is fine for different
podcasting. But I'm just saying

2079
02:02:12,990 --> 02:02:14,190
68 bucks

2080
02:02:16,290 --> 02:02:18,330
Adam Curry: Wow, everybody.
Aren't you glad you're listening

2081
02:02:18,330 --> 02:02:20,760
to the best podcast in the
universe? And just

2082
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,560
John C Dvorak: saying yeah,
people want to subscribe to the

2083
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:25,230
newsletter then get the link
there. I'm not going to talk

2084
02:02:25,230 --> 02:02:26,460
about as any bleed

2085
02:02:26,460 --> 02:02:29,010
Adam Curry: the worst idea since
me reading the legislation.

2086
02:02:32,340 --> 02:02:35,130
John C Dvorak: People love this
information they want to know

2087
02:02:35,130 --> 02:02:39,690
about the gods just what we do.
We got and check things out. I

2088
02:02:39,690 --> 02:02:44,910
Adam Curry: got a lot of
feedback on the east Safety

2089
02:02:44,910 --> 02:02:51,540
Commissioner in in the UK. Oh,
the spook? Yeah. Here's one

2090
02:02:51,570 --> 02:02:54,360
anonymous Adam and John. I
prefer to say no, he got it. I

2091
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:57,480
thought to send a note regarding
John's clips from show 1654 on

2092
02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:00,360
the Australian E Safety
Commissioner. The E Safety

2093
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,030
Commission has been ticking
along quietly in the background

2094
02:03:03,030 --> 02:03:06,090
for a number of years. By the
way, this is coming to America.

2095
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:08,970
There's gonna be a safety
because you know to protect the

2096
02:03:08,970 --> 02:03:12,450
juice, don't worry, it's all
coming. The Safety Commission

2097
02:03:12,450 --> 02:03:14,400
has been ticking long quiet in
the background for a number of

2098
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:16,800
years. It is a component of a
government department whose

2099
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:19,830
primary role has been dealing
with email and phone scams as

2100
02:03:19,830 --> 02:03:23,760
well as managing legitimate
telemarketing company practices

2101
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:26,850
and advertising legislation.
It's quite the organization

2102
02:03:26,850 --> 02:03:30,930
there. Something not mentioned
in your discussion is that our E

2103
02:03:30,930 --> 02:03:34,980
Safety Commissioner is also a
former Twitter employee moving

2104
02:03:34,980 --> 02:03:38,580
straight from Twitter to
government in 2016. So we

2105
02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:41,640
thought that she was she came
from Microsoft, but apparently,

2106
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,900
she was also at Twitter. In the
old Twitter. The primary focus

2107
02:03:45,900 --> 02:03:48,930
of the current discussion in the
country is whether certain clips

2108
02:03:48,930 --> 02:03:53,490
can be shared online. In this
case, specifically, footage of

2109
02:03:53,490 --> 02:03:57,390
the knife attack on an Assyrian
Orthodox priest in Sydney while

2110
02:03:57,390 --> 02:04:00,750
he was holding a service, which
I think happened with a knife

2111
02:04:00,750 --> 02:04:04,590
sheathed, and so there's no
blood drawn. The community

2112
02:04:04,590 --> 02:04:08,250
became very agitated after the
attack and small scale public

2113
02:04:08,250 --> 02:04:11,970
disturbances occurred, which the
police and government blamed on

2114
02:04:11,970 --> 02:04:17,340
the distribution of this clip on
x. Oh, uh huh. It's unclear

2115
02:04:17,340 --> 02:04:20,790
exactly how far the government's
power extends. In this case,

2116
02:04:21,030 --> 02:04:23,340
though, we're, though they're
attempting to push it by

2117
02:04:23,340 --> 02:04:27,840
ordering the content removed. In
a strange twist. They've even

2118
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:31,440
directed people in other
countries to remove the clip

2119
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:35,040
from their ex page, for
instance, Canada. This has led

2120
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,100
to the conversation in the clips
you played regarding clarifying

2121
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:41,460
legislation. Historically, the
government has had limited

2122
02:04:41,460 --> 02:04:45,000
success with multiple nationals
abiding by these directives. As

2123
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:49,050
a result, most legislation
targets ISPs to do the heavy

2124
02:04:49,050 --> 02:04:52,920
lifting example of this,
including the banning of Zero

2125
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:58,710
Hedge and HN in the, in the
aftermath of the Christchurch

2126
02:04:58,710 --> 02:05:01,980
shooting, which of course was in
New Zealand. Elon Musk has been

2127
02:05:01,980 --> 02:05:05,670
the public target as he has been
in vocal opposition, though this

2128
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:09,720
sort of thing isn't a new story
here. Last note. John, you've

2129
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:13,650
been mispronouncing the Prime
Minister Anthony Albanese his

2130
02:05:13,650 --> 02:05:18,630
name it's Albin. Easy. Albanese
Albanese. Yeah. Albin.

2131
02:05:18,690 --> 02:05:21,180
John C Dvorak: What have I been
saying? Album minis yes album

2132
02:05:21,210 --> 02:05:23,040
easy Albanese. Yes.

2133
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,690
Adam Curry: Keep up the good
fight. Thank you for your

2134
02:05:24,690 --> 02:05:25,170
courage.

2135
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:27,540
John C Dvorak: That's sorry.
Well, I should pronounce his

2136
02:05:27,540 --> 02:05:31,710
real name. Elmer Fudd. Just take
a look at his picture and tell

2137
02:05:31,710 --> 02:05:35,280
me I'm wrong. Elmer Fudd there's

2138
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,980
Adam Curry: been a lot of
information coming out about our

2139
02:05:37,980 --> 02:05:41,670
new NPR CEO, Katherine Meyer,

2140
02:05:41,850 --> 02:05:44,040
John C Dvorak: another one. Yes.
She

2141
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:47,730
Adam Curry: was apparently quite
involved in a number of color

2142
02:05:47,730 --> 02:05:50,850
revolutions around the time of
the Middle East and North

2143
02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:55,470
African color revolutions. Go
figure isn't that interesting?

2144
02:05:56,670 --> 02:05:59,940
March of 2011. Mar worked for
the National Democratic

2145
02:05:59,940 --> 02:06:03,270
Institute, a government funded
NGO with deep connections to US

2146
02:06:03,270 --> 02:06:07,020
intelligence this from the City
Journal. I think they're pretty

2147
02:06:07,020 --> 02:06:10,050
good actually, the City Journal
and the Democratic Party's

2148
02:06:10,050 --> 02:06:12,840
foreign policy machine. The
organization was set up to do

2149
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:16,410
independently what CIA had done
covertly worldwide says,

2150
02:06:16,620 --> 02:06:21,030
national security analyst Jay
Michael Waller. So she is

2151
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:25,890
definitely this agent of change.
She was part of a revolutionary

2152
02:06:25,890 --> 02:06:33,270
Vanguard movement at NDI. And my
buddy Dave Jones, over at

2153
02:06:33,300 --> 02:06:37,920
podcasting 2.0 He found an
interview that she did, which I

2154
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:43,500
think is, this was done in
January, this was probably part

2155
02:06:43,500 --> 02:06:48,780
of her audition process, because
it's with Reed Hoffman on Reid

2156
02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:54,060
Hoffman's podcast, you know what
I mean? It's like, hey, ya gotta

2157
02:06:54,060 --> 02:06:58,170
go on, read his podcast. And if
you make it there, if you pass

2158
02:06:58,170 --> 02:07:01,590
the muster there, we can bring
you in. So you want to hear

2159
02:07:01,590 --> 02:07:02,730
these clips. But

2160
02:07:02,730 --> 02:07:04,380
John C Dvorak: absolutely, he or
she is

2161
02:07:04,410 --> 02:07:07,080
Unknown: I think the internet
has been catastrophic for trust.

2162
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,920
But perhaps not for all of the
reasons we might think, when I

2163
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:15,510
say catastrophic, I think that
what has happened is not that

2164
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:18,780
the internet has destroyed
trust, it has, the internet has

2165
02:07:18,780 --> 02:07:25,980
surfaced fissures within systems
and, and allowed them to grow

2166
02:07:25,980 --> 02:07:30,510
and grow publicly at an
exponential rate. And so when,

2167
02:07:30,510 --> 02:07:33,750
for example, we think about
trust in institutions, which is

2168
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:36,600
something that I'm very
interested in, and that comes to

2169
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,570
sort of institutional
governance, institutions fit for

2170
02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:41,640
purpose. And I mean,
institutions in the abstract and

2171
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:44,400
in the literal sense. So the
institution of universal

2172
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:46,710
suffrage is an institution,
although doesn't have like a

2173
02:07:46,710 --> 02:07:52,410
brand name. The issues that
we've seen there is that many of

2174
02:07:52,410 --> 02:07:58,950
these institutions were built
around a sort of homogenous

2175
02:07:58,950 --> 02:08:02,910
population that they were
serving, they were not terribly

2176
02:08:02,910 --> 02:08:07,110
responsive, both in terms of
accountability to that

2177
02:08:07,110 --> 02:08:09,960
population. And then when we
started to see increasingly

2178
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:15,240
heterogeneous populations, due
to immigration, diversification,

2179
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:19,020
civil rights, movement, etc,
etc, we started to cetera, how

2180
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:23,670
those, those institutions where
we're not actually sort of fit

2181
02:08:23,670 --> 02:08:28,590
for purpose. What the Internet
has done is it has exposed those

2182
02:08:28,590 --> 02:08:32,850
fissures in ways that are
related to both. We now

2183
02:08:33,090 --> 02:08:35,940
interface with all sorts of
technologies, platforms and

2184
02:08:35,940 --> 02:08:39,750
services that are hyper
responsive to our needs in and

2185
02:08:39,750 --> 02:08:45,870
have created an anticipation of
a much more frictionless, much

2186
02:08:45,870 --> 02:08:50,610
more productive set of
processes, services, outcomes,

2187
02:08:50,610 --> 02:08:53,400
SLA functional human SLAs, human

2188
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:58,050
Adam Curry: SLAs John, this is a
this is some the newest gobbly

2189
02:08:58,050 --> 02:09:02,880
gook. SLA is some service level
agreement. So it's now human

2190
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:07,290
service level agreements. She's
nuts.

2191
02:09:08,220 --> 02:09:11,100
John C Dvorak: I was I was I
would agree that she's nuts

2192
02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:16,410
100% 100%. And unbelievable.

2193
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:18,870
Adam Curry: What she's really
saying is podcasts ruined our

2194
02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:22,020
business. That's what I hear
saying. So you know, I

2195
02:09:22,020 --> 02:09:25,020
John C Dvorak: can see you
hearing that. Maybe she's saying

2196
02:09:25,020 --> 02:09:28,650
it because she's tried and tried
and tried. I mean, the NPO or

2197
02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:32,940
not she, but NPR has tried to do
podcasting and it's just like,

2198
02:09:32,970 --> 02:09:37,800
basically NPR. You know,
repurposed here's crappy.

2199
02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:39,390
Adam Curry: Here's what
happened. You know, they went in

2200
02:09:39,390 --> 02:09:44,130
for all you know, let's do black
queer hosts doing a hip hop

2201
02:09:44,130 --> 02:09:49,320
show. What they, what they what
they miss over there is that the

2202
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:52,020
network isn't like you can't
monetize the network is like,

2203
02:09:52,380 --> 02:09:56,250
your podcast app is now your
podcast network. You subscribe

2204
02:09:56,340 --> 02:09:59,880
to the shows you want to hear.
And you play them when you want

2205
02:09:59,880 --> 02:10:06,420
to Hear him. We don't need this.
This you know, the shield for

2206
02:10:06,420 --> 02:10:09,960
whatever intelligence or anybody
for that matter. You don't need

2207
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:13,560
an NPR to try and create a
lineup that's going to be

2208
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:16,590
perfect for you. Nobody cares
anymore. It's like just like

2209
02:10:16,590 --> 02:10:22,620
Disney. No. Dead. Exactly.
lineups are dead. Oh, that's a

2210
02:10:22,620 --> 02:10:25,110
good that's a good way of
putting it lineups are dead.

2211
02:10:25,590 --> 02:10:29,940
people subscribe to Netflix to
binge the new series and then

2212
02:10:29,940 --> 02:10:31,770
they quit their subscription.

2213
02:10:33,150 --> 02:10:35,580
John C Dvorak: In fact there was
a one of the I was reading in

2214
02:10:35,580 --> 02:10:39,480
one of the forum's somebody's
going on bitching and moaning

2215
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:43,230
and saying you know what I do? I
was subscribed to Netflix and

2216
02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:45,990
then then binge watch
everything. I want to watch it

2217
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:48,150
and I was canceling
subscription. Now subscribe

2218
02:10:48,150 --> 02:10:50,790
subscribed to Hulu, and then
I'll watch what you know is

2219
02:10:50,790 --> 02:10:54,510
there, and I'll binge watch and
then on subscribing, so you're

2220
02:10:54,510 --> 02:10:56,790
only paying $19 A month ever.

2221
02:10:57,390 --> 02:11:01,200
Adam Curry: That's right. That's
why the only way forward, the

2222
02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:07,920
only way forward is value for
value where you pay for the

2223
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:14,850
program that you want to hear at
the value you ascribe to it. It

2224
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:20,040
would be a much better argument.
If our donations were craps. It

2225
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,100
would be a much better argument
that way. But But that's really

2226
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:26,100
where it's going. There's
there's there's no other way

2227
02:11:26,100 --> 02:11:30,720
Pete the people have the power.
And you're exactly right. So

2228
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:35,010
they they people have 20 bucks a
month for their media on the

2229
02:11:35,010 --> 02:11:37,620
streaming because it's really
not worth much more than that.

2230
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:41,490
And they just hop around. Like
okay, I'll get Hulu 20 bucks

2231
02:11:41,490 --> 02:11:44,370
canceled next month is something
else next month is something

2232
02:11:44,370 --> 02:11:45,660
else. Yeah, and

2233
02:11:45,660 --> 02:11:48,240
John C Dvorak: you can catch up
with everything. If you have the

2234
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:50,520
wherewithal, me Paramount

2235
02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:53,040
Adam Curry: is about to go out
of business. I

2236
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,800
John C Dvorak: mean, they're
trying to get rid of it. Larry

2237
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:58,560
Adam Curry: Ellison's kid is
going to buy up some scrap metal

2238
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:02,160
which will be known formerly
known as paramount. I wouldn't

2239
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:04,890
even think that what he's buying
is any good. Have you been

2240
02:12:04,890 --> 02:12:06,930
following that? The Paramount
saga,

2241
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:08,850
John C Dvorak: I've been
following it in the trades a

2242
02:12:08,850 --> 02:12:11,130
bit. But I

2243
02:12:11,130 --> 02:12:15,690
Adam Curry: mean, that thing
basically just collapsed. After

2244
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:19,590
summoner red red stones daughter
took over, I don't know what

2245
02:12:19,590 --> 02:12:23,910
John C Dvorak: she hates the I
think she hated the old man. And

2246
02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:28,140
if you ever I met him once, and
I can see how that can be. He

2247
02:12:28,140 --> 02:12:32,520
seems to be that kind of guy
that would instill hate. And,

2248
02:12:33,690 --> 02:12:36,480
and she wants to read
everything. She wants to destroy

2249
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:41,460
everything that he built up.
He's very proud of his

2250
02:12:41,460 --> 02:12:43,500
accomplishment. accomplishments.

2251
02:12:44,130 --> 02:12:45,930
Adam Curry: You want to really
want to hear the second clip

2252
02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:48,030
from Katherine Mar. Was it too
much to handle?

2253
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:50,790
John C Dvorak: I can do without
unless it unless there's

2254
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:52,200
something in there. So Jim, I

2255
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:54,210
Adam Curry: really don't
remember. I'm not going to risk

2256
02:12:54,210 --> 02:12:55,440
it. I'm not going to risk it.

2257
02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:58,380
John C Dvorak: It does bring me
to the since it was talking

2258
02:12:58,380 --> 02:13:02,190
about lack of trust. It brings
me to an I don't know why this

2259
02:13:02,190 --> 02:13:06,300
is. But it brings you to a three
by three. Oh, now it's done.

2260
02:13:06,660 --> 02:13:07,500
Three by three.

2261
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:18,360
Adam Curry: Everybody's fast.
Fast on ABC, CBS. Thank you for

2262
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:21,480
recognizing my my speed. That's
right. We got the top three

2263
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:24,390
networks. That was pretty new
issues. Thank you. And here, we

2264
02:13:24,390 --> 02:13:25,560
compare all timing.

2265
02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:28,380
John C Dvorak: All right. So
timing. So the point is, is that

2266
02:13:28,380 --> 02:13:33,540
we talked about this? Probably
100 years ago, 100 years? Yeah,

2267
02:13:33,540 --> 02:13:36,750
100 years ago. And this was
actually the three by three for

2268
02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:40,560
the last show, which I didn't
run and then they kept hot. They

2269
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:44,640
kept harping on it on the on
these networks. And this is the

2270
02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:50,130
like the revelation that the guy
who runs pecker or whatever is

2271
02:13:50,670 --> 02:13:51,750
National Enquirer,

2272
02:13:51,780 --> 02:13:55,680
Adam Curry: women, can I just
say it's very possible that the

2273
02:13:55,680 --> 02:14:00,390
three by three is driving people
away, I'm just saying as

2274
02:14:00,390 --> 02:14:01,020
possible.

2275
02:14:04,830 --> 02:14:06,600
John C Dvorak: I'd never like to
three by three.

2276
02:14:09,390 --> 02:14:10,740
Adam Curry: All right. So this

2277
02:14:12,750 --> 02:14:16,110
John C Dvorak: but the fact that
that they keep the network's

2278
02:14:16,110 --> 02:14:18,990
keep harping on this as though
the public really wants to know

2279
02:14:18,990 --> 02:14:23,760
this. In the end, the thinking
is, look, there's this guy who

2280
02:14:23,790 --> 02:14:28,020
bought off all these stories.
And then it by the way, I had

2281
02:14:28,020 --> 02:14:32,370
this happen to me. If anyone who
wants to talk about you know, a

2282
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:34,350
boy, yeah, they bought you

2283
02:14:34,350 --> 02:14:37,290
Adam Curry: paid off a porn
star? No,

2284
02:14:37,290 --> 02:14:39,900
John C Dvorak: I wrote a story
once. Oh, and I think the

2285
02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:42,990
magazine was called focus and it
was KQED was a local

2286
02:14:42,990 --> 02:14:46,470
publication. They hired me to
write an article on the top 10

2287
02:14:46,470 --> 02:14:48,870
lists and the top 10 That and
the top 10 lists and the top 10

2288
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:53,280
that in Silicon Valley. Some
years ago, I was okay. So I was

2289
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:55,920
paying. They gave me the money.
They never published the story.

2290
02:14:56,160 --> 02:14:58,710
And I'll tell you why they
didn't publish the story. I had

2291
02:14:58,710 --> 02:15:02,010
all these different it wasn't
like it was elaborately written

2292
02:15:02,010 --> 02:15:04,980
or anything that you know, this
guy can't write it just, we're

2293
02:15:04,980 --> 02:15:08,310
gonna know that I got paid for
the story. And then they killed

2294
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:11,850
it. Because I follow a
Yellowlees. Definitely the top

2295
02:15:11,850 --> 02:15:14,730
three restaurants I think was
mostly top stories, top three

2296
02:15:14,730 --> 02:15:18,780
restaurants Silicon Valley and
its top three carwashes, the top

2297
02:15:18,780 --> 02:15:19,770
three, top three, the

2298
02:15:21,690 --> 02:15:24,810
Adam Curry: top three, what was
the number one carwash in

2299
02:15:24,810 --> 02:15:25,590
Silicon Valley? I

2300
02:15:25,590 --> 02:15:27,660
John C Dvorak: don't remember
this was like 10 years ago or

2301
02:15:27,660 --> 02:15:32,340
longer. But here's the kicker,
that I had the top three

2302
02:15:32,370 --> 02:15:43,050
charities of Silicon Valley, one
blank to blank, three blank. And

2303
02:15:43,050 --> 02:15:48,510
that was the end of that story.
So this was not an unusual thing

2304
02:15:48,510 --> 02:15:49,860
to kill stories. Yeah. So

2305
02:15:50,070 --> 02:15:54,030
Adam Curry: So explain, briefly
catch and kill,

2306
02:15:54,990 --> 02:15:56,910
John C Dvorak: catch and kill or
whatever it's called. That is

2307
02:15:56,940 --> 02:15:58,650
start with the ABC today

2308
02:15:58,650 --> 02:16:00,840
Unknown: is Donald Trump
listened intently the former

2309
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:03,660
publisher of the National
Enquirer for the first time

2310
02:16:03,660 --> 02:16:06,750
laying out the extraordinary
relationship between candidate

2311
02:16:06,750 --> 02:16:10,170
Trump and the sorted supermarket
tabloid David pecker, grinning

2312
02:16:10,170 --> 02:16:12,780
widely as he pointed out Trump
in the courtroom, the former

2313
02:16:12,780 --> 02:16:16,320
president smirking back, the two
men had been friends for years.

2314
02:16:16,620 --> 02:16:19,170
Becker told the jury he was
convinced women would come

2315
02:16:19,170 --> 02:16:22,050
forward with salacious stories
to sell because Trump was the

2316
02:16:22,050 --> 02:16:26,040
most eligible bachelor and dated
the most beautiful women Trump

2317
02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:28,920
perking up at that description
and then visibly perturbed

2318
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:31,710
versing his lips and crossing
his arms as pecker started to

2319
02:16:31,710 --> 02:16:34,860
detail. One example the story of
former Playboy model Karen

2320
02:16:34,860 --> 02:16:37,770
McDougal, who claims to have had
a year long affair with Trump

2321
02:16:37,770 --> 02:16:40,980
which he denies. Finally, pecker
testified he and Trump got on

2322
02:16:40,980 --> 02:16:44,040
the phone. He said he told Trump
to buy the rights to McDougal

2323
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:47,790
story. Trump's response I don't
buy stories. Anytime you do

2324
02:16:47,790 --> 02:16:51,300
anything like this, it always
gets out. Ultimately, peckers

2325
02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:55,350
company paid Karen McDougal
$150,000 for the rights to her

2326
02:16:55,350 --> 02:16:59,280
story but never published it all
to protect Trump. before today's

2327
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:02,850
testimony, prosecutors accused
Trump of repeatedly violating

2328
02:17:02,850 --> 02:17:07,080
the judge's gag order, attacking
witnesses even potential jurors.

2329
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:10,680
Defense attorneys insisted Trump
is complying but the judge

2330
02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:13,980
interjected you're losing
credibility. There was no

2331
02:17:13,980 --> 02:17:17,220
immediate ruling from the judge.
But David prosecutors said it's

2332
02:17:17,220 --> 02:17:21,600
almost as if Trump is trying to
force the judge to throw him in

2333
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:26,010
jail. And tonight, sources told
ABC News the Secret Service is

2334
02:17:26,010 --> 02:17:28,830
actually preparing for that
possibility. It's

2335
02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:32,430
Adam Curry: really unbelievable
how our national press is

2336
02:17:32,430 --> 02:17:40,980
obsessed with with porn farts. I
mean, it's just it's amazing.

2337
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:42,690
These people are sick.

2338
02:17:43,410 --> 02:17:46,800
John C Dvorak: I don't gonna
argue that there we go the NBC

2339
02:17:46,830 --> 02:17:47,340
tonight

2340
02:17:47,340 --> 02:17:50,640
Unknown: Mr. Trump's longtime
friend David packer, the former

2341
02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:53,760
publisher of the National
Enquirer offering the jury a

2342
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:57,720
rare glimpse into the underworld
of tabloid tactics. The day

2343
02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:01,740
began with the judge taking the
defense team to task over Mr.

2344
02:18:01,740 --> 02:18:05,700
Trump's posts on social media,
targeting Cohen and stormy

2345
02:18:05,700 --> 02:18:09,240
Daniels, the state seeking to
hold Mr. Trump in criminal

2346
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:12,660
contempt for violating the
judge's gag order that bars him

2347
02:18:12,660 --> 02:18:14,520
from attacking trial witnesses

2348
02:18:14,550 --> 02:18:17,340
so they can talk about me they
can say whatever they want, they

2349
02:18:17,340 --> 02:18:19,980
can lie. But I'm not allowed to
say.

2350
02:18:22,860 --> 02:18:26,100
In court the defense arguing Mr.
Trump should be permitted to

2351
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:29,610
respond to political attacks,
and the gag order should not

2352
02:18:29,610 --> 02:18:33,870
cover repose of someone else.
The judge didn't rule today, but

2353
02:18:33,870 --> 02:18:37,200
seemed exasperated tellingly,
defense attorney Todd blanch,

2354
02:18:37,410 --> 02:18:40,920
you are losing all credibility
with the court. minutes later

2355
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:45,030
during a break Mr. Trump back on
truth social, falsely writing

2356
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:48,810
the judge had taken away his
right to free speech. This is a

2357
02:18:48,810 --> 02:18:49,890
kangaroo court.

2358
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:53,490
John C Dvorak: Yo, maybe I'm
mostly writing. Maybe I was

2359
02:18:53,490 --> 02:18:56,430
falsely writing but he didn't
know he wrote it. He didn't

2360
02:18:56,430 --> 02:18:57,840
falsely write. Maybe

2361
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,990
Adam Curry: I'm seeing this the
wrong way. Maybe this is really

2362
02:19:01,020 --> 02:19:04,020
just the part of trying to get
Middle America to vote for

2363
02:19:04,020 --> 02:19:07,560
Trump. They really want him in
like wow, this guy is just as

2364
02:19:07,560 --> 02:19:11,250
broken as we are over here.
Yeah, you know, he just has

2365
02:19:11,250 --> 02:19:15,720
bigger brokenness. I'm telling
you, they want him in so bad.

2366
02:19:15,870 --> 02:19:18,000
Everyone knows that all these
things will go to appeal.

2367
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,000
They're not going to be thrown
in jail before the elections.

2368
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,690
Everyone knows this. This is
this is this is just this is

2369
02:19:24,690 --> 02:19:28,710
just more get him in so we can
collapse everything on his

2370
02:19:28,710 --> 02:19:29,370
watch.

2371
02:19:32,940 --> 02:19:36,720
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
gonna argue it. I mean, it's

2372
02:19:36,720 --> 02:19:39,000
kind of the point we've been
making I think for some time.

2373
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:42,300
Adam Curry: Yeah. So so that
they spend all this time on

2374
02:19:42,330 --> 02:19:44,310
these stories. Oh, boy.

2375
02:19:46,860 --> 02:19:50,400
John C Dvorak: Alright, so let's
go to the final solution.

2376
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:53,940
Unknown: CBS former President
Trump aired his frustration with

2377
02:19:53,940 --> 02:19:59,250
being in court today. situation
after listening to former

2378
02:19:59,250 --> 02:20:02,550
National Enquirer Our publisher
David pecker, a man he's known

2379
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:04,320
for over three decades and even

2380
02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:06,810
Adam Curry: the fact of the
guy's name is pecker. Everybody

2381
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:11,250
knows the joke. Everybody's in
on it. Hey, Martha

2382
02:20:13,139 --> 02:20:16,019
Unknown: Becker explained the
strategy he testified they

2383
02:20:16,019 --> 02:20:20,459
agreed upon ahead of the 2016
election. The paper would bury

2384
02:20:20,459 --> 02:20:23,969
any negative news about Trump
while promoting fake stories

2385
02:20:23,969 --> 02:20:27,599
about his political opponents,
including senators Ted Cruz and

2386
02:20:27,599 --> 02:20:31,709
Marco Rubio. Packer testified
the plan was concocted at Trump

2387
02:20:31,709 --> 02:20:35,759
Tower in 2015. Trump and former
fixer Michael Cohen allegedly

2388
02:20:35,759 --> 02:20:39,569
asked him how we could help the
campaign. He told them I would

2389
02:20:39,569 --> 02:20:43,109
be your eyes and ears explaining
the practice of catch and kill

2390
02:20:43,259 --> 02:20:46,289
the Enquirer would buy the
rights to any damaging story

2391
02:20:46,289 --> 02:20:50,249
about Trump and never publish
it. Prosecutors say that plan

2392
02:20:50,249 --> 02:20:54,659
was the origin of Cohen's
$130,000 payment to former adult

2393
02:20:54,659 --> 02:20:57,119
film star stormy Daniels to keep
her quiet.

2394
02:20:57,150 --> 02:20:59,340
Adam Curry: Did you say film
store do you think he said film

2395
02:20:59,340 --> 02:21:01,350
store instead of star day that

2396
02:21:01,350 --> 02:21:05,520
Unknown: plan was the origin of
Cohen's $130,000 payment to

2397
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:10,350
former adult film star stormy
Daniels to keep store about an

2398
02:21:10,350 --> 02:21:14,040
alleged sexual encounter with
Trump who denies it all. One

2399
02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:17,190
example of catch and kill
discussed in court today involve

2400
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:20,370
the Trump building doorman, who
was selling what turned out to

2401
02:21:20,370 --> 02:21:23,940
be a fake story about Trump
fathering a son pecker told the

2402
02:21:23,940 --> 02:21:26,730
jury today he bought the story
because of the potential

2403
02:21:26,730 --> 02:21:30,570
embarrassment it would have to
the campaign and Mr. Trump in

2404
02:21:30,570 --> 02:21:33,450
the gag order here in the
prosecution argued that Trump

2405
02:21:33,450 --> 02:21:36,510
should be held in contempt for
all of his scathing commentary

2406
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:39,510
about this case, Trump's lawyer
Todd Lance said his clients

2407
02:21:39,510 --> 02:21:43,530
being careful with his words to
that the judge said that's just

2408
02:21:43,530 --> 02:21:44,310
not credible.

2409
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:50,430
Adam Curry: I have an answer
here to your question. One of

2410
02:21:50,430 --> 02:21:54,960
our producers sent this from the
BBC how they know about Trump's

2411
02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:57,540
facial expressions in the
courtroom.

2412
02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:04,020
John C Dvorak: Yes, I was, was a
critical regarding Rachel Maddow

2413
02:22:04,020 --> 02:22:07,620
somehow seeing his face when
she's got he's got his back to

2414
02:22:07,620 --> 02:22:07,860
her

2415
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:11,100
Unknown: is you can't have your
descriptions of everybody's body

2416
02:22:11,100 --> 02:22:13,740
language and facial expressions
and things that you can see from

2417
02:22:13,740 --> 02:22:16,470
inside the courthouse are
absolutely gripping.

2418
02:22:16,590 --> 02:22:19,770
It's interesting, because I when
I'm in the courtroom, I see him

2419
02:22:19,770 --> 02:22:22,410
from the back and from the side.
And at one point, I was sitting

2420
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:25,200
literally right behind him and
could really like detect his

2421
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:27,600
body language, but I can't see
his face. When I'm in the

2422
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:29,970
overflow room, I can see all the
expressions he's making, because

2423
02:22:29,970 --> 02:22:32,550
there's a camera pointed right
at him that they're feeding. And

2424
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:36,540
so I've had both the views of
his reading his body and sort of

2425
02:22:36,540 --> 02:22:39,030
his mood at the defense table,
and also just being able to see

2426
02:22:39,030 --> 02:22:40,500
the expressions on his face.

2427
02:22:40,530 --> 02:22:43,440
Adam Curry: So they got a camera
on his face in the overflow

2428
02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:45,120
room. That's how they do it.

2429
02:22:46,260 --> 02:22:49,350
John C Dvorak: Well, how does
that jive with Rachael being so

2430
02:22:49,350 --> 02:22:52,110
happy to be in the courtroom
herself?

2431
02:22:52,140 --> 02:22:54,930
Adam Curry: Oh, maybe she's
lying. Could it be possible?

2432
02:22:56,370 --> 02:22:59,520
John C Dvorak: Rachel Maddow
would be lying. Our

2433
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:03,690
Adam Curry: constitutional
lawyer Rob made 14 clips for me

2434
02:23:03,720 --> 02:23:11,460
of the of the discussion in the
Supreme Court about immunity.

2435
02:23:11,940 --> 02:23:16,170
I'm going to move those to
Thursday. Because it couldn't

2436
02:23:16,170 --> 02:23:19,230
away Can we play all of them?
But some of them we've already

2437
02:23:19,230 --> 02:23:22,200
handled. I just liked the fact
that we have a lawyer that does

2438
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:28,440
stuff like that. But I could if
you want to hear play the two

2439
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:34,560
clips about presidential
President pardoning himself.

2440
02:23:36,690 --> 02:23:38,640
John C Dvorak: Which was also
Yeah, I would be interested in

2441
02:23:38,640 --> 02:23:43,290
that I can tolerate to those
clips due to clips. Yes, we've

2442
02:23:43,290 --> 02:23:45,780
heard the Supreme Court toy
they're very slow talking.

2443
02:23:45,810 --> 02:23:48,450
Adam Curry: Here's a Lido
talking to Dre. Ben, I think is

2444
02:23:48,450 --> 02:23:51,510
the guy's name. And this is the
first one about presidents

2445
02:23:51,540 --> 02:23:54,660
presidential pardoning himself.
On the

2446
02:23:54,660 --> 02:23:58,290
Unknown: question of whether a
president has the authority to

2447
02:23:58,320 --> 02:24:01,740
pardon himself, which came up
earlier in the argument. What's

2448
02:24:01,740 --> 02:24:03,840
the answer to that question? I
don't believe the Department of

2449
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:06,870
Justice has taken a position.
The only authority that I'm

2450
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:10,380
aware of is a member of the
Office of Legal Counsel wrote on

2451
02:24:10,380 --> 02:24:14,040
a memorandum that there is no
self pardon authority. As far as

2452
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:16,650
I know, that department has not
addressed it further. And of

2453
02:24:16,650 --> 02:24:20,640
course, this Court had not
addressed it either. Well, when

2454
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:23,280
you address that question before
us, are you speaking in your

2455
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:28,560
capacity solely as a member of
the special counsels team or or

2456
02:24:28,560 --> 02:24:33,210
are you speaking on behalf of
the Justice Department, which

2457
02:24:33,240 --> 02:24:38,370
has special institutional
responsibilities? I am speaking

2458
02:24:38,370 --> 02:24:41,010
on behalf of the Justice
Department, we're representing

2459
02:24:41,010 --> 02:24:44,760
the United States. Right. How
Don't you think we need to know

2460
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:49,080
the answer to at least Yes, the
Justice Department's position on

2461
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:53,220
that issue in order to decide
this case, because the President

2462
02:24:53,220 --> 02:24:58,440
has the authority to pardon
himself before leaving office

2463
02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:03,090
and the DC circuit is right that
there is no immunity from

2464
02:25:03,090 --> 02:25:06,780
prosecution, won't the the
predictable result be that

2465
02:25:06,780 --> 02:25:09,420
presidents on the last couple of
days of officers are going to

2466
02:25:09,420 --> 02:25:12,090
pardon themselves from anything
that they might have been

2467
02:25:12,090 --> 02:25:15,300
conceivably charged with
committing? I really doubt that

2468
02:25:15,300 --> 02:25:18,780
Justice Alito unit sort of
presupposes a regime that we

2469
02:25:18,780 --> 02:25:22,050
have never had, except for
President Nixon and as alleged

2470
02:25:22,050 --> 02:25:25,020
in the indictment here,
presidents who are conscious of

2471
02:25:25,020 --> 02:25:28,620
having engaged in wrongdoing and
seeking to shield themselves, I

2472
02:25:28,620 --> 02:25:32,520
think the political consequences
of a president who asserted a

2473
02:25:32,520 --> 02:25:35,250
right of self pardon, that has
never been recognized, that

2474
02:25:35,250 --> 02:25:38,940
seems to contradict a bedrock
principle of our law, that no

2475
02:25:38,940 --> 02:25:42,840
person shall be the judge in
their own case. Those are

2476
02:25:42,840 --> 02:25:46,620
adequate deterrence, I think, so
that this kind of dystopian

2477
02:25:46,620 --> 02:25:50,460
regime is not going to evolve.
Okay.

2478
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:53,970
Adam Curry: Any comments before
I go to Gorsuch on the same

2479
02:25:53,970 --> 02:25:55,440
issue? None.

2480
02:25:55,860 --> 02:26:00,450
Unknown: What would happen if
presidents were under fear, fear

2481
02:26:00,450 --> 02:26:04,500
that their successors would
criminally prosecute them for

2482
02:26:04,500 --> 02:26:07,860
their acts in office, whether
it's whether they were engaged

2483
02:26:07,860 --> 02:26:12,690
in drone strike all the
hypotheticals? It seems to me

2484
02:26:12,690 --> 02:26:15,210
like one of the incentives that
might be created as for

2485
02:26:15,210 --> 02:26:19,650
presidents to try to pardon
themselves. Do you have any

2486
02:26:19,650 --> 02:26:20,640
thoughts about that?

2487
02:26:20,910 --> 02:26:23,400
That is I didn't think of that
until

2488
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:29,040
Adam Curry: I forgot to mention,
this is sour, who has the voice

2489
02:26:29,070 --> 02:26:32,850
of I don't know what this is.
This has got to be a medical

2490
02:26:32,850 --> 02:26:36,000
issue. It's very, it's only 40
seconds is hard to listen to

2491
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:37,560
this person that is,

2492
02:26:38,070 --> 02:26:40,500
Unknown: didn't think of that
until you're on acid. That is

2493
02:26:40,500 --> 02:26:43,590
certainly one instead of that
might be creative. What we think

2494
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:44,850
is most important, we've never

2495
02:26:44,850 --> 02:26:48,720
answered whether President can
do that. Happily, it's never

2496
02:26:48,720 --> 02:26:50,760
been presented to us. And

2497
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:53,400
if if the doctrine of immunity
remains in place, that's likely

2498
02:26:53,400 --> 02:26:57,360
to remain the case. For those
very issues as Fitzgerald, I

2499
02:26:57,360 --> 02:27:00,450
think very powerfully emphasize,
the real concern here is is

2500
02:27:00,450 --> 02:27:02,790
there going to be bold and
fearless action? Is the

2501
02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:05,670
President going to have to make
a controversial decision where

2502
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:08,010
his political opponents are
going to come after him? The

2503
02:27:08,010 --> 02:27:11,460
minute he leaves office? Is that
going to unduly deter? Or is

2504
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:15,030
that going to dampen the order
of that President to do what our

2505
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:18,660
constitutional structure demands
of him or her, which is bold and

2506
02:27:18,660 --> 02:27:20,580
fearless action in the face of
controversy?

2507
02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:24,960
And perhaps if he feels he has
to he'll pardon himself? Every

2508
02:27:24,990 --> 02:27:26,370
every four years from now on?

2509
02:27:28,020 --> 02:27:31,170
Adam Curry: AI or not? Ai?
That's a crazy voice

2510
02:27:34,620 --> 02:27:36,450
John C Dvorak: well, that's
interesting stuff, man.

2511
02:27:36,480 --> 02:27:39,090
Adam Curry: Now, I mean, yes, I
think it's interesting, but you

2512
02:27:39,090 --> 02:27:43,110
know, to a point you know, it's
not about it's not about Gaza.

2513
02:27:43,140 --> 02:27:46,440
So who knows? We're not We're
not hair on fire.

2514
02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:50,340
John C Dvorak: But I guess blink
and just as a last go into the

2515
02:27:50,340 --> 02:27:50,820
Yeah, you

2516
02:27:50,820 --> 02:27:53,250
Adam Curry: have a went to
China. Yeah, here's

2517
02:27:53,250 --> 02:27:54,690
John C Dvorak: what PBS had to
say about

2518
02:27:54,690 --> 02:27:56,940
Adam Curry: it. Let me see where
it what did you title this?

2519
02:27:57,240 --> 02:27:59,880
Lincoln Blinken makes sense.
Meanwhile,

2520
02:27:59,880 --> 02:28:02,610
Unknown: another member of the
Biden Cabinet Secretary of State

2521
02:28:02,610 --> 02:28:06,390
Antony Blinken warned Chinese
President Xi Jinping today

2522
02:28:06,540 --> 02:28:10,440
against supporting Russia's war
in Ukraine. The two men met in

2523
02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:14,640
Beijing, Blinken said he told xi
that China must stop supplying

2524
02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:20,610
Russia with critical war
material or the US will act did

2525
02:28:20,610 --> 02:28:23,580
not elaborate but he did
acknowledge progress in other

2526
02:28:23,580 --> 02:28:24,750
areas. We are

2527
02:28:24,750 --> 02:28:29,160
committed to maintaining and
strengthening the lines of

2528
02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:33,450
communication between us so that
we avoid any miscommunications.

2529
02:28:34,110 --> 02:28:37,830
Any misperceptions? Any
miscalculations and we are

2530
02:28:37,830 --> 02:28:41,250
committed to responsibly
managing the relationship.

2531
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:46,140
For his part, she said China and
the US must seek common ground

2532
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:49,080
rather than engage in what he
called, quote, vicious

2533
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:49,980
competition.

2534
02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:54,210
Adam Curry: I saw a video of GE
waiting for Blinken to come in

2535
02:28:54,240 --> 02:29:00,300
and he was talking to his aides
his aides and they Hot Mic hot

2536
02:29:00,300 --> 02:29:05,820
mic and I'm gonna give you the
exact translation let me see

2537
02:29:05,820 --> 02:29:10,470
where is it here? It was
something like is he here yet?

2538
02:29:10,530 --> 02:29:14,070
And then I was like NAS he has
to leave in 45 minutes and Jesus

2539
02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:21,180
good get him out of here i It's
all AI it's all AI it's all AI

2540
02:29:21,180 --> 02:29:23,040
except we're not AI and with
that I'd like to say in the

2541
02:29:23,040 --> 02:29:26,160
morning to you the man who put
the sea in call the cows say

2542
02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:29,400
hello to my friend on the other
end Mr. John see tomorrow

2543
02:29:32,880 --> 02:29:34,920
John C Dvorak: morning to you
Mr. Adam curry in the morning

2544
02:29:34,920 --> 02:29:37,830
all ships at sea boots on the
ground feet in the air and subs

2545
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:39,750
in the water the dames the
Knights out there.

2546
02:29:39,780 --> 02:29:48,540
Adam Curry: Hello trolls
interesting we had the last

2547
02:29:48,870 --> 02:29:56,190
Sunday show we had 18 147 Trolls
we're up by eight trolls 1855

2548
02:29:56,640 --> 02:30:00,000
And by the way, these trolls
have nice purple hair I like

2549
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,690
exceeding your trolls Very good.
You can become a troll, join

2550
02:30:03,690 --> 02:30:09,630
them at troll room.io which is
really fun to do if you have

2551
02:30:09,630 --> 02:30:12,900
time on Thursdays and Sundays,
because unlike most of those

2552
02:30:12,900 --> 02:30:17,520
podcasts that are edited, and
all the URLs and the arms are

2553
02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:21,510
taken out, and oh no, they left
a long pause of silence, gotta

2554
02:30:21,510 --> 02:30:25,440
edit that out. Gotta make it
exactly two hours. We, on the

2555
02:30:25,440 --> 02:30:28,830
other hand, are doing, we're
doing a performance for you.

2556
02:30:29,460 --> 02:30:32,730
Neither, neither one of us knows
what we're coming to the table

2557
02:30:32,730 --> 02:30:35,940
with. John sends me clips I
don't look at, I look at the

2558
02:30:35,940 --> 02:30:38,850
titles and say, Okay, I clearly
don't have to clip anything

2559
02:30:38,850 --> 02:30:43,140
about Blinken in China, because
John's got it. But otherwise, we

2560
02:30:43,140 --> 02:30:46,830
put it together with the help of
you, the producers who produce

2561
02:30:46,830 --> 02:30:49,830
this show time, talent and
treasure, we'd love it when

2562
02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:53,550
you're in a deep state in the in
the defense industrial base. And

2563
02:30:53,550 --> 02:30:57,420
you tell us that it's all about
China. We love it when people we

2564
02:30:57,420 --> 02:31:02,490
have our constitutional lawyer
making clips. So he sat there

2565
02:31:02,490 --> 02:31:05,460
and he listened to the most
boring stuff in the universe.

2566
02:31:06,030 --> 02:31:08,700
And it was able to make clips. I
mean, this is a beautiful,

2567
02:31:08,700 --> 02:31:12,270
beautiful thing. That's how you
can return value to the show

2568
02:31:12,270 --> 02:31:15,870
because quite honestly, we're
not like NPR, we don't have 25

2569
02:31:15,870 --> 02:31:20,730
people to work on radio lab.
Radio lab. We don't have true

2570
02:31:20,730 --> 02:31:24,540
crime where we do AI
falsifications now, it's just

2571
02:31:24,540 --> 02:31:28,950
two dudes, two microphones, a
Beelink and Inuk. That's what

2572
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:34,950
you got. And and, and that's why
we're here. We love our artists

2573
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:38,790
who always help with some
fantastic value. By making

2574
02:31:38,820 --> 02:31:42,660
artwork that we can use again,
something that you could not

2575
02:31:42,660 --> 02:31:46,950
afford, if if you wanted to
contract artists to make artwork

2576
02:31:46,950 --> 02:31:50,460
for every single episode, which
has been going on for 15 years,

2577
02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:54,900
this episodic art, so they do it
out of returning value to the

2578
02:31:54,900 --> 02:31:59,430
show. And for that very reason.
I want to thank Matt boy there I

2579
02:31:59,430 --> 02:32:03,480
think I got the pronunciation
right. This was by far the this

2580
02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:08,040
for episode 1654 titled e
safety. Which made sense of

2581
02:32:08,040 --> 02:32:10,710
course we talked about the E
Safety Commissioner. This was

2582
02:32:10,710 --> 02:32:14,790
the tic toc logo draped in the
American flag. It was it was

2583
02:32:14,790 --> 02:32:15,120
just

2584
02:32:15,330 --> 02:32:18,630
John C Dvorak: it was these
ribs. It was turned into the

2585
02:32:18,630 --> 02:32:21,450
Adam Curry: but it looks like
it's draped. It looks like it

2586
02:32:21,450 --> 02:32:24,480
was wrapped around the TIC tock
logo, don't you think so? Okay,

2587
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:26,760
you can do that. Yeah, I think I
think it looks like it was

2588
02:32:27,450 --> 02:32:28,740
wrapped around the load. It's

2589
02:32:28,740 --> 02:32:30,120
John C Dvorak: just a dynamite
piece.

2590
02:32:30,300 --> 02:32:33,780
Adam Curry: It was a great
piece. Lots of people tried

2591
02:32:33,810 --> 02:32:39,780
other things like negative
second. What else we have here

2592
02:32:39,780 --> 02:32:42,930
lots of Phoebe art appreciate
the Phoebe art. You actually

2593
02:32:42,930 --> 02:32:49,320
we're we're kind of pushing for
a weird piece, which was Trump's

2594
02:32:49,410 --> 02:32:55,890
lawyer with a gas mask with a
green cloud of I guess fart gas

2595
02:32:56,190 --> 02:32:57,750
and Phoebe in the background.

2596
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:01,860
John C Dvorak: thought no, I
liked that piece of scaremongers

2597
02:33:01,860 --> 02:33:04,680
piece. I gotta wait Phoebe in
the background that was the

2598
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:07,530
funny part is the judge multiple

2599
02:33:07,530 --> 02:33:10,830
Adam Curry: Phoebe pieces of art
comics through blogger you used

2600
02:33:10,830 --> 02:33:16,440
his piece for the newsletter is
I did Yes. And he was very upset

2601
02:33:16,440 --> 02:33:18,810
that you didn't credit him with
that. So I'm doing

2602
02:33:18,810 --> 02:33:21,690
John C Dvorak: it where they
credited me these people. You

2603
02:33:21,690 --> 02:33:25,500
know, I think I never credited
it with art with the art

2604
02:33:25,530 --> 02:33:28,350
Adam Curry: I never I think that
art tank donations. I think

2605
02:33:28,350 --> 02:33:29,160
that's what did it.

2606
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:32,550
John C Dvorak: Oh could be could
be I know like we got a lot of

2607
02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:33,870
complaints about Phoebe.

2608
02:33:34,200 --> 02:33:38,040
Adam Curry: Well, I got pluses
and minuses. Some

2609
02:33:38,070 --> 02:33:40,380
John C Dvorak: some PHQ B Phoebe
that killed the show.

2610
02:33:40,650 --> 02:33:43,110
Adam Curry: There you go. For
some people said oh, no, it

2611
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:47,250
sounded great. She's awesome.
Plus two for Phoebe. And others

2612
02:33:47,250 --> 02:33:50,640
were like, your concentration
was off. You should listen to

2613
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:57,240
yourself. A different person
from the from the anti semitism

2614
02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:59,700
and it's all different. Same
guy. No, no, it's all different

2615
02:33:59,700 --> 02:34:00,600
people. It's all different.

2616
02:34:00,870 --> 02:34:02,490
John C Dvorak: You get a little
more variety.

2617
02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:05,640
Adam Curry: Thank you mad boy,
there we we appreciate your

2618
02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:08,370
work. And of course, all the
work that all of the artists do

2619
02:34:09,330 --> 02:34:13,890
diligently and it's good to see
non AI art now doesn't mean that

2620
02:34:13,890 --> 02:34:17,250
we're going to choose it. It
doesn't always hit it on the

2621
02:34:17,250 --> 02:34:20,580
mark. But in this case, I mean,
this was great. Great. Matt

2622
02:34:20,580 --> 02:34:25,260
really, really nailed it. And
thank you to Dred Scott for

2623
02:34:25,260 --> 02:34:28,530
using many of these pieces of
art in the modern podcast apps

2624
02:34:28,530 --> 02:34:31,200
in the chapters. If you don't
have one, you're really missing

2625
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:35,130
out on some fun stuff. Go to
podcast apps.com Get yourself a

2626
02:34:35,130 --> 02:34:38,220
modern podcast app, you're going
to need it because with the

2627
02:34:38,220 --> 02:34:42,990
coming clampdown, you're going
to see Apple and Spotify and

2628
02:34:43,290 --> 02:34:47,580
YouTube music, podcasts,
whatever that is. You're going

2629
02:34:47,580 --> 02:34:50,790
to see him deplatforming You're
gonna see your podcast taken

2630
02:34:50,790 --> 02:34:54,750
off. I guess it's foregone
conclusion. Yep. Because you

2631
02:34:54,750 --> 02:34:58,200
know, you can't say from the
river to the sea. That that is

2632
02:34:58,200 --> 02:34:59,520
one of those chants that will be

2633
02:34:59,550 --> 02:35:02,790
John C Dvorak: that way. Federal
chance. Yeah. federal legal

2634
02:35:02,790 --> 02:35:05,760
chance. Yeah. No, that's a good
name for the show illegal

2635
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:06,450
chance.

2636
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:09,810
Adam Curry: I like that. Right.
That illegal chance. Yeah, that

2637
02:35:09,810 --> 02:35:11,220
was pretty good. Which

2638
02:35:11,220 --> 02:35:12,210
John C Dvorak: is pathetic.

2639
02:35:13,380 --> 02:35:18,000
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's illegal
speech, which as we noted, all

2640
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:21,840
this started in 2011 with the
bullying laws and hate speech.

2641
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:24,840
And that's kind of where we lost
our way. I would

2642
02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:27,660
John C Dvorak: take it back to
the late 70s and early 80s, when

2643
02:35:27,900 --> 02:35:31,800
the concept of political
politically correct speech came

2644
02:35:31,800 --> 02:35:36,870
into play. That began the self
censorship. process. Yeah, I'll

2645
02:35:36,870 --> 02:35:39,930
give you that. I'll give it and
then after that it slowly

2646
02:35:39,930 --> 02:35:43,080
evolved into well, let's see how
far we can push. This is how

2647
02:35:43,080 --> 02:35:47,310
stupid the American public is to
put up with us. And

2648
02:35:47,700 --> 02:35:49,920
Adam Curry: I mean, it's amazing
what's happened all over the

2649
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:53,760
world so far, and we're like the
last holdout. And now we're just

2650
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:56,790
John C Dvorak: blessed because
as we've played clips, lots of

2651
02:35:56,790 --> 02:36:00,930
clips that to this effect. Well,
you know, unlike the United

2652
02:36:00,930 --> 02:36:05,760
States, we haven't got a first
amendment to protect us. And so

2653
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:09,420
these laws come into play, so we
really don't have any any way to

2654
02:36:09,420 --> 02:36:10,950
flip push back on them.

2655
02:36:11,580 --> 02:36:13,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, the only thing
you got left in the UK a

2656
02:36:13,500 --> 02:36:14,640
Speaker's Corner.

2657
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:17,790
John C Dvorak: Okay, have you
ever been to that? Yeah,

2658
02:36:18,060 --> 02:36:21,390
Adam Curry: I report is nobody
there. I reported not last time

2659
02:36:21,390 --> 02:36:23,610
we were there. And you're right.
There was nobody there. Although

2660
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:27,330
I have seen some videos recently
if people because that's the

2661
02:36:27,330 --> 02:36:31,410
only place you can still say
stuff. You can still say stuff

2662
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:34,230
on Speaker's Corner. Is that the
corner of Hyde Park? I'm gonna

2663
02:36:34,230 --> 02:36:34,680
say it's

2664
02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:37,110
John C Dvorak: in Hyde Park.
It's over in Mayfair. Yeah,

2665
02:36:37,740 --> 02:36:38,100
yeah,

2666
02:36:38,220 --> 02:36:40,530
Adam Curry: there's so there's
still people on their soapbox.

2667
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:46,500
But but don't don't call anybody
a crew lesbian online, because

2668
02:36:46,500 --> 02:36:50,910
the cops will come and arrest
you go look it up. It's crazy.

2669
02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:56,130
Anyway, that's our time and
talent portion. We appreciate

2670
02:36:56,130 --> 02:36:59,010
the work that all of you do
boots on the ground clips,

2671
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:03,420
insights information, but
propagating the message hitting

2672
02:37:03,420 --> 02:37:06,540
people in the mouth all this is
very welcomed and very good. And

2673
02:37:06,540 --> 02:37:09,390
now we go to the treasure
portion doesn't happen often.

2674
02:37:09,390 --> 02:37:12,840
But once again, no executive
producers only a few Associate

2675
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:16,320
Executive producers. The list is
short, as we've alluded to, and

2676
02:37:16,320 --> 02:37:21,900
we kick it off with James from
Australia, Western Australia.

2677
02:37:21,930 --> 02:37:22,260
Yeah,

2678
02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:25,050
John C Dvorak: so we are top
donor who will be bumped up to

2679
02:37:25,050 --> 02:37:27,750
executive will become an
executive producer. That's a guy

2680
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:28,800
in Australia.

2681
02:37:28,830 --> 02:37:32,310
Adam Curry: Yep. Well, you know
why? Because he values free

2682
02:37:32,310 --> 02:37:34,980
speech. He knows is leaving his
country.

2683
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:37,050
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. He's
done. He's from

2684
02:37:37,080 --> 02:37:39,900
Adam Curry: gidgegannup is
gidgegannup. I've never heard of

2685
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:42,930
gidgegannup. Good,

2686
02:37:42,990 --> 02:37:45,990
John C Dvorak: good, good.
gidgegannup giga, good. No.

2687
02:37:46,020 --> 02:37:47,640
Good. You can get it.

2688
02:37:48,510 --> 02:37:53,040
Adam Curry: Did you get it?
$217.38. He says James from

2689
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:58,380
Western Australia, in Texas.
There you go enroute to my visit

2690
02:37:58,380 --> 02:38:03,780
my girlfriend's family in
Mexico. Aussie seem happy to

2691
02:38:03,780 --> 02:38:08,700
become W E. F. Surfs. So if you
could sort me a green card, that

2692
02:38:08,700 --> 02:38:12,660
would be swell. Oh, here's an
idea. When you're in Mexico,

2693
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:17,250
walk across the border and get a
phone $10,000 and less

2694
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:17,850
paperwork.

2695
02:38:18,300 --> 02:38:21,900
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're
gonna fly back to Australia when

2696
02:38:21,900 --> 02:38:25,320
you feel like in fact, Grant
American. Yeah. What's your

2697
02:38:25,320 --> 02:38:27,780
problem? Just $20,000

2698
02:38:27,810 --> 02:38:31,410
Adam Curry: He says sorry, my
333 donations and dollar reduce.

2699
02:38:31,410 --> 02:38:35,910
Wow. Okay, so he even donated
$300. Okay. Exactly. Anyway, so

2700
02:38:35,910 --> 02:38:39,150
yes, it's all I can afford. Now.
We appreciate it, brother. We

2701
02:38:39,150 --> 02:38:41,580
appreciate you coming in de
douche poor vervoer. He says

2702
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:49,770
John C Dvorak: you've been D
deuced. Alright, Craig Bayless

2703
02:38:49,770 --> 02:38:55,350
in Birmingham, Alabama, comes to
a 212 12 and he says this is a

2704
02:38:55,350 --> 02:39:01,890
switcher, a switcher Wolf.
switcher Wolf. Okay, this is

2705
02:39:01,890 --> 02:39:06,390
donation for Phoebe for her Dame
hood. That told you some people

2706
02:39:06,390 --> 02:39:09,510
I loved her performance on the
last show, but maybe Adam should

2707
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:16,050
consider doggy daycare on show
days. I send my dog to one and

2708
02:39:16,050 --> 02:39:17,730
she loves it. Yeah, he

2709
02:39:17,730 --> 02:39:20,880
Adam Curry: sent me a Phoebe
does not do well in the doggy

2710
02:39:20,880 --> 02:39:25,620
daycare. She has to be in their
own cage because she doesn't.

2711
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:26,490
Dogs

2712
02:39:26,490 --> 02:39:28,890
John C Dvorak: like that. We are
very familiar with that since we

2713
02:39:28,890 --> 02:39:30,060
own it, Carol. Yeah.

2714
02:39:30,090 --> 02:39:31,920
Adam Curry: What do you do with
those dogs? You lock them up in

2715
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:33,480
the ISO so am I right?

2716
02:39:34,770 --> 02:39:38,580
John C Dvorak: Well, John,
consider using this in place of

2717
02:39:38,580 --> 02:39:43,620
sad puppy. Thanks for the best
but the sad puppy did nothing by

2718
02:39:43,620 --> 02:39:44,010
the way.

2719
02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:46,440
Adam Curry: You had the best
part. I didn't even know you had

2720
02:39:46,440 --> 02:39:49,590
a sad puppy in there. I had a
sad puppy in the newsletter.

2721
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:53,130
Yeah, well, the sad puppy is
overplayed, bro, just give it

2722
02:39:53,130 --> 02:39:53,880
up. No.

2723
02:39:54,330 --> 02:39:56,940
John C Dvorak: You're gonna be
stuck with it forever. Thanks

2724
02:39:56,940 --> 02:40:00,510
for the best podcast in the
universe. Key continue News.

2725
02:40:00,750 --> 02:40:03,780
I've been listening since John
was running the Boeing jets

2726
02:40:03,780 --> 02:40:10,560
promotion 767777 etc. and have
not donated until now. Thanks

2727
02:40:10,560 --> 02:40:15,540
Phoebe. Thanks so much again
jingles goat scream John Key he

2728
02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:20,250
and Asian dog FYI This is to
replace the offensive donation

2729
02:40:20,400 --> 02:40:25,800
with this amount for dogs ducks
and bones. Adam He is risen

2730
02:40:25,830 --> 02:40:27,600
Craig Bayless.

2731
02:40:27,840 --> 02:40:30,150
Adam Curry: Thank you Craig.
Well, let's do a little bonus

2732
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:33,990
clip here before we do your
jingles. As we have yet another

2733
02:40:34,350 --> 02:40:38,040
update in the ongoing Boeing
versus Airbus saga

2734
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:40,260
Unknown: in New York a Delta
Airlines plane was forced to

2735
02:40:40,260 --> 02:40:44,010
return to JFK airport today
after losing its emergency

2736
02:40:44,010 --> 02:40:47,760
slide. Delta says the crew on
the flight to Los Angeles

2737
02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:50,880
declared an emergency when they
heard a sound near the right

2738
02:40:50,880 --> 02:40:54,300
wing after the plane landed
safely they saw the slide was

2739
02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:57,060
gone it's were about sure
unclear

2740
02:40:58,680 --> 02:41:03,900
Adam Curry: well done Boeing
Yeah, I think the idea is to

2741
02:41:03,900 --> 02:41:07,350
have everyone stopped flying all
together. It's just stopped

2742
02:41:07,350 --> 02:41:12,150
flying stay home does Yeah. So I
don't know what the John he he.

2743
02:41:12,930 --> 02:41:14,430
I'm lucky.

2744
02:41:14,580 --> 02:41:16,170
John C Dvorak: I can do that. I
pulled

2745
02:41:16,170 --> 02:41:18,900
Adam Curry: the different John
clip for this for this occasion.

2746
02:41:18,930 --> 02:41:22,560
I thought you would like this
baby.

2747
02:41:31,980 --> 02:41:37,170
Karma we go to that was cool.
Right? You'd like that one is

2748
02:41:37,170 --> 02:41:41,400
great. And great voice. Katrina
Gerstner. Eugene, Oregon to 10

2749
02:41:41,400 --> 02:41:45,960
and 60 Russian aggression.
Sorry. Hey, John. Adam. This is

2750
02:41:45,960 --> 02:41:48,750
a long overdue overdue donation
since I've been listening to you

2751
02:41:48,750 --> 02:41:51,990
for almost two years and I just
gave you my first donation via

2752
02:41:51,990 --> 02:42:00,000
PayPal. Well, I think we need to
do D deuced. By the way, I want

2753
02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:11,700
to thank our see it's he is our
sir Montauk. He sent me a de

2754
02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:13,500
douche button. Did he send you
anything?

2755
02:42:13,680 --> 02:42:15,900
John C Dvorak: Yes, I have a D
do douche button. It said the

2756
02:42:15,900 --> 02:42:17,790
dinner table. Oh, really?
Because

2757
02:42:17,790 --> 02:42:19,860
Adam Curry: it's so it's one of
those green plastic you know,

2758
02:42:19,860 --> 02:42:22,950
like Yeah, hit it hit it in case
of emergency to stop the

2759
02:42:22,950 --> 02:42:29,460
assembly line and Yeah. Kind of
fun. You have it at the dinner,

2760
02:42:29,460 --> 02:42:33,990
denarius? I'd like it so just
whoever needs a de douching they

2761
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:35,820
get to hit the button during
dinner. Yeah,

2762
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:38,370
John C Dvorak: I guess Yeah,
it's what it's for. And I got my

2763
02:42:38,370 --> 02:42:42,180
jokes out that Theodore seems to
like hitting the button.

2764
02:42:43,260 --> 02:42:46,170
Adam Curry: Better to use a
button button you said button.

2765
02:42:47,340 --> 02:42:49,440
And I got my belt shelfs as
well.

2766
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:52,860
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you would.
My belt is a belt the giant belt

2767
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:53,700
the belt shells?

2768
02:42:53,700 --> 02:42:57,120
Adam Curry: Yeah. And it's two
of them. So one for my already

2769
02:42:57,120 --> 02:43:00,000
John C Dvorak: got one. He said
he sent me two. But I only got

2770
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:03,480
one. Well, he sent me two and he
said one from me gamble. Yeah,

2771
02:43:03,480 --> 02:43:06,810
he said the same thing to me.
He's give one to a local UPS

2772
02:43:06,810 --> 02:43:07,020
guy.

2773
02:43:08,280 --> 02:43:10,470
Adam Curry: delivery person
about you got gypped There you

2774
02:43:10,470 --> 02:43:11,070
go. No,

2775
02:43:11,070 --> 02:43:13,830
John C Dvorak: not necessarily.
Maybe the delivery person took

2776
02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:14,880
the belt after reading the

2777
02:43:14,880 --> 02:43:18,450
Adam Curry: note. All right.
Back to the this note from

2778
02:43:18,450 --> 02:43:22,200
Katrina. I had to write to say
how pleasantly surprised I was

2779
02:43:22,200 --> 02:43:25,950
to hear Adams coverage of the
campus protests over the Israeli

2780
02:43:25,950 --> 02:43:30,330
Gaza war. No anti semitism was
seen. Yep. I appreciate your

2781
02:43:30,330 --> 02:43:35,130
support and not falling for the
hype. Okay, you go the lone

2782
02:43:35,130 --> 02:43:35,640
person.

2783
02:43:37,980 --> 02:43:39,870
John C Dvorak: One gal I wanted

2784
02:43:39,870 --> 02:43:42,300
Adam Curry: to add I was
listening to the gray zone and

2785
02:43:42,300 --> 02:43:46,410
Max Blumenthal's take was that
the masks were worn by

2786
02:43:46,410 --> 02:43:49,350
protesters to avoid cameras from
identifying them. Yeah, because

2787
02:43:49,350 --> 02:43:52,590
they all want to work at Goldman
Sachs later. I really enjoy your

2788
02:43:52,590 --> 02:43:56,100
analysis especially regarding
COVID and Ukraine. I also

2789
02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:59,820
appreciate your coverage of the
EU not many outlets cover the EU

2790
02:44:00,030 --> 02:44:03,450
love the show, even though I
don't always agree with you to

2791
02:44:03,540 --> 02:44:08,940
example environmental stuff at
times. Keep up the good work by

2792
02:44:08,940 --> 02:44:11,880
the way. Government Abbott
totally gets away with stuff

2793
02:44:11,880 --> 02:44:15,810
because he's in a wheelchair. I
should know. I have moderate CP.

2794
02:44:16,410 --> 02:44:17,250
What CP

2795
02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:24,720
John C Dvorak: CP cerebral.
Yeah,

2796
02:44:24,780 --> 02:44:28,800
Adam Curry: if you ever end and
I send a note back at Trina,

2797
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:32,790
what kind of goodies do you get
when you have CP? Let us know.

2798
02:44:32,970 --> 02:44:36,750
No. She says yes. He said he
totally gets away with stuff

2799
02:44:36,750 --> 02:44:38,880
because you're in a wheelchair.
I should know I have moderate so

2800
02:44:38,880 --> 02:44:42,870
she gets away with stuff.
Tickets and stuff. I Oh, this is

2801
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:45,210
interesting. No one you know,
because everyone's so

2802
02:44:45,210 --> 02:44:48,600
politically correct. Because
it's talking about it. No one's

2803
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:51,390
talking about we're interested.
We love talking about all kinds

2804
02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:54,840
of stuff. If you ever have a
meetup in Central Oregon, please

2805
02:44:54,840 --> 02:44:57,630
let me know I think that there
are meetups in I don't know

2806
02:44:57,630 --> 02:45:01,500
about Central Oregon. But check
no agenda meet upstox Katrina

2807
02:45:01,500 --> 02:45:04,440
Thank you very much. I'm gonna
give you a gratuitous karma. I

2808
02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:07,350
love that note, you've got
karma.

2809
02:45:09,510 --> 02:45:13,020
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile,
Jennifer a neater food field or

2810
02:45:13,020 --> 02:45:18,180
Netherfield in Mont Ville, New
Jersey, comes in with 210 60

2811
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:21,600
Dear John and Adam, please
accept this donation as my thank

2812
02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:25,500
you for continuing to keep me
informed and entertained with

2813
02:45:25,500 --> 02:45:28,830
the best podcast in the
universe. Adam? Yes, I recently

2814
02:45:28,830 --> 02:45:32,580
had a day full of 30 threes. But
then when I heard you are now in

2815
02:45:32,580 --> 02:45:35,910
need of a new travel agent, I
realized that was my sign to

2816
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:40,500
donate. I also booked my clients
not just family and friends for

2817
02:45:40,500 --> 02:45:44,880
free. So if you're looking to
explore our perfectly imperfect

2818
02:45:44,880 --> 02:45:48,930
world by ocean or river cruise,
please consider reaching out to

2819
02:45:48,930 --> 02:45:54,660
me at Seaside destinations.
travel.com that seaside

2820
02:45:54,660 --> 02:45:58,290
destinations traveled I'd come.
I'd love to help. Thank you,

2821
02:45:58,290 --> 02:45:59,250
Jennifer. Oh,

2822
02:45:59,250 --> 02:46:02,430
Adam Curry: Jennifer, email me
Adam mccurry.com. Let's talk.

2823
02:46:03,240 --> 02:46:06,990
river cruise river cruise River

2824
02:46:07,650 --> 02:46:09,300
John C Dvorak: in the Rhone
River are supposed to be dying.

2825
02:46:09,330 --> 02:46:11,970
Adam Curry: How about the Nile?
The Nile might be fun.

2826
02:46:13,320 --> 02:46:15,780
John C Dvorak: Ya know, dinner
might be first for the Parana

2827
02:46:17,700 --> 02:46:19,140
Adam Curry: from Bensenville
Illinois,

2828
02:46:19,140 --> 02:46:21,930
John C Dvorak: there's also a
little worm that swims around it

2829
02:46:21,960 --> 02:46:22,890
where I won't go into

2830
02:46:22,980 --> 02:46:25,050
Adam Curry: place. Now I know
what happens with that little

2831
02:46:25,050 --> 02:46:28,050
worm Eli the coffee guy comes in
from Bensenville Illinois

2832
02:46:28,050 --> 02:46:33,120
402 $104.30. I'm sure we added
some Pay Pal fees. Farmers

2833
02:46:33,120 --> 02:46:35,970
Market season is upon us. I
would like to urge all producers

2834
02:46:35,970 --> 02:46:38,460
to visit your local farmers
market this summer. That's a

2835
02:46:38,460 --> 02:46:42,960
good idea. With the ongoing war
on our food supply that come in

2836
02:46:42,960 --> 02:46:46,740
for your cows. There's no better
way to meet local farmers and

2837
02:46:46,770 --> 02:46:50,190
artisans who supply real quality
food and your community small

2838
02:46:50,190 --> 02:46:53,430
batch. Plus, you will be
supporting small local

2839
02:46:53,430 --> 02:46:56,730
businesses that work hard to
feed your families and their

2840
02:46:56,730 --> 02:47:00,330
families and yours. Yes, I
agree. And when they start

2841
02:47:00,330 --> 02:47:03,960
closing down the stuff at the
store, you know you you can you

2842
02:47:03,960 --> 02:47:06,210
can go to these farms and say
hey, remember me from the

2843
02:47:06,210 --> 02:47:09,930
farmers market and they will
feed you and everyone else

2844
02:47:09,930 --> 02:47:13,260
they'll shoot? Can I get a jobs
karma for the farmers and

2845
02:47:13,260 --> 02:47:18,540
crafters out there? And I'm
going to add ranchers. And if

2846
02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:21,300
for those that can't get to a
farmers market but still want

2847
02:47:21,300 --> 02:47:25,380
fresh roasted coffee. Ah, here
we go. He ties it in. Visit

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first order. Stay caffeinated
Eli the coffee guy jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

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02:47:42,540 --> 02:47:43,620
John C Dvorak: I was drinking
money.

2852
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:45,930
Adam Curry: I was drinking it
this morning. gigwalk him I ran

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02:47:45,930 --> 02:47:48,870
out of my black rifle. So I've
been drinking the gigawatt which

2854
02:47:48,870 --> 02:47:49,950
is it's good.

2855
02:47:50,130 --> 02:47:54,570
John C Dvorak: I like it. But
they have a variety of roasts. I

2856
02:47:54,570 --> 02:47:56,730
Adam Curry: like as dark as
possible. And then they have

2857
02:47:57,360 --> 02:47:59,910
flavors. You don't like the dark
roast to you. I

2858
02:47:59,910 --> 02:48:02,940
John C Dvorak: used to I used to
have a Pavoni made the VIS

2859
02:48:02,940 --> 02:48:06,180
Presto and I got that thing back
when I was in college and I made

2860
02:48:06,300 --> 02:48:13,800
use the forever and I was a dark
roast nut. And then I discovered

2861
02:48:13,830 --> 02:48:20,100
some light roasts. And with this
the machine I use the Australian

2862
02:48:20,100 --> 02:48:25,530
machine which I don't know I
mean it's it makes a great cup

2863
02:48:25,530 --> 02:48:29,640
of coffee. And it is like for
some reason it just takes a

2864
02:48:29,790 --> 02:48:35,520
light roast and says here try
this. And it's like beyond. It's

2865
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:39,330
beyond compare. It's just so
much better than the you know

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02:48:39,330 --> 02:48:42,630
the harsh dark run so I don't
even like dark roast.

2867
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:46,440
Adam Curry: Can I ask you a
culinary question? How do you

2868
02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:49,950
make your coffee? I'll say up
front. I am a French press guy.

2869
02:48:51,300 --> 02:48:54,360
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, I use a
machine I use the what's the

2870
02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:59,400
Breslin Bressler Bramble rebel
rebel, I use a rebel. I have a

2871
02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:03,390
rebel I got it for Christmas
about five years ago everyone

2872
02:49:03,450 --> 02:49:06,750
pitched in and bought me oh,
this rebel has got the grinder.

2873
02:49:07,230 --> 02:49:09,240
Oh, that's basically automated.

2874
02:49:09,270 --> 02:49:10,650
Adam Curry: That's an expensive
machine.

2875
02:49:11,160 --> 02:49:13,110
John C Dvorak: It's a very
expensive machine and it did

2876
02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:16,920
took like eight people to pay
for it. And ever since then I've

2877
02:49:16,920 --> 02:49:21,360
been using it and I and I that's
when I gravitated to light

2878
02:49:21,360 --> 02:49:26,010
roasts and I realize it with the
light roast which are harder,

2879
02:49:26,040 --> 02:49:29,970
you know, or they just produce a
different product especially but

2880
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:34,710
that machine really makes a
light roast killer. A is that

2881
02:49:34,710 --> 02:49:39,600
that's the coffee I was in
Indonesia one year for some meet

2882
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:39,960
up

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02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:44,070
Adam Curry: was the Obama family
reunion. No, no, I

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02:49:44,130 --> 02:49:47,820
John C Dvorak: used to be pre
Obama. And I was having coffee

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02:49:48,120 --> 02:49:52,110
in the hotel that was so good.
It was like Sumatra into some

2886
02:49:52,560 --> 02:49:55,560
but it was a light roast coffee.
That was you could not stop

2887
02:49:55,560 --> 02:49:59,970
drinking it. And then I realized
what the sorry, just take it oh

2888
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:05,730
It's okay to light the Breville
and a light roast espresso may

2889
02:50:05,730 --> 02:50:10,530
with light roast is just that
coffee is what I've always had

2890
02:50:10,530 --> 02:50:14,070
been looking for and it is a
stunner. So now if I have

2891
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:18,330
anything medium light I can
tolerate light is better, but

2892
02:50:18,360 --> 02:50:23,430
it's done with dark roast and I
don't I haven't used a French

2893
02:50:23,430 --> 02:50:26,940
press probably for three years.
Well I

2894
02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:30,690
Adam Curry: since we don't have
advertisements or creepy

2895
02:50:30,690 --> 02:50:35,070
corporate money I will vouch for
the Breville product line we

2896
02:50:35,070 --> 02:50:40,200
just got rid of after more than
10 years of constant everyday

2897
02:50:40,200 --> 02:50:44,490
use our Breville hot water
heater it finally started and

2898
02:50:44,760 --> 02:50:47,760
which was not only a water
heater, Tina also used it to

2899
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:49,410
kill crickets. It's

2900
02:50:49,410 --> 02:50:52,410
John C Dvorak: a kettle is a
kettle Yeah, I didn't know that

2901
02:50:52,410 --> 02:50:56,310
you made one of those. Yes,
smart. Don't okay Bucha says

2902
02:50:56,310 --> 02:51:00,840
we're on the topic. So I've gone
I've gone through kettles for

2903
02:51:00,870 --> 02:51:03,330
I've had kettles probably since
the first time we went to

2904
02:51:03,330 --> 02:51:04,500
England and the seven

2905
02:51:05,010 --> 02:51:07,470
Adam Curry: T was invented. And
so

2906
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:12,240
John C Dvorak: these kettles are
all made in China. They last

2907
02:51:12,240 --> 02:51:17,160
about two years two and a half
years before they crap out. So

2908
02:51:17,160 --> 02:51:22,080
I've probably gone to 10 kettles
they just crap out they don't

2909
02:51:22,110 --> 02:51:26,280
stop boiling or they just crash
I've got you know Costco has

2910
02:51:26,280 --> 02:51:28,650
them they've been having him for
a number of years now Costco and

2911
02:51:28,650 --> 02:51:31,560
you get it for like 1012 bucks
I'm sure that Breville is like

2912
02:51:31,560 --> 02:51:35,880
30 but yeah Breville would make
remote make a product that lasts

2913
02:51:35,880 --> 02:51:36,000
you

2914
02:51:36,990 --> 02:51:41,100
Adam Curry: know the Breville is
expensive. Oh no, it's remember

2915
02:51:41,100 --> 02:51:46,020
it's a smart kettle Well, I
basically the same thing I

2916
02:51:46,020 --> 02:51:48,810
bought 10 years ago it's just
not a little different design.

2917
02:51:49,050 --> 02:51:51,780
It's beyond the last

2918
02:51:51,870 --> 02:51:54,450
John C Dvorak: 10 years is five
times longer than a Chinese

2919
02:51:54,450 --> 02:51:57,150
Costco kettle will last so I'm
gonna go

2920
02:51:57,150 --> 02:52:00,570
Adam Curry: take a look and see
and see where it's manufactured.

2921
02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:01,500
I wonder if

2922
02:52:01,680 --> 02:52:02,970
John C Dvorak: it's probably
made in China but you have

2923
02:52:02,970 --> 02:52:07,200
quality control issue things you
know Yeah. Now it's we have one

2924
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:12,030
last one last donations yes go.
And another Smart Money donation

2925
02:52:12,030 --> 02:52:15,090
from Linda Lou packin obviously
from Lakewood, Colorado who

2926
02:52:15,480 --> 02:52:19,410
promotes herself with $200
donations and she wants some

2927
02:52:19,410 --> 02:52:23,280
jobs karma and says the
following for a resume that gets

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02:52:23,280 --> 02:52:26,190
results go to Image makers
inc.com For all your executive

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resume and jobs job search needs
that's image makers Inc with a K

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02:52:31,770 --> 02:52:36,870
for just finder, Linda lapad Can
Duchess of jobs and writers of

2931
02:52:36,870 --> 02:52:42,300
resume writer of resumes on the
producers list. And thank you

2932
02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:46,020
Melinda for keeping up the
keeping it going the she is

2933
02:52:46,050 --> 02:52:51,390
Adam Curry: our guide. She's our
North Star. As long as she's

2934
02:52:51,420 --> 02:52:53,370
donating I feel good

2935
02:52:53,370 --> 02:52:58,410
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's for

2936
02:52:58,410 --> 02:52:59,730
God. That's right.

2937
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:07,080
Adam Curry: Who was it? Someone
Someone told me that they use

2938
02:53:07,080 --> 02:53:09,780
her services and we're extremely
happy with it.

2939
02:53:09,840 --> 02:53:13,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we I got to
say note that there are there

2940
02:53:13,830 --> 02:53:15,060
are pleased as punch.

2941
02:53:15,330 --> 02:53:18,420
Adam Curry: Yeah. If it's really
executive for executive resumes.

2942
02:53:18,420 --> 02:53:21,570
I mean, it's it's not just you
know, if you want to a job at

2943
02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:26,160
Taco Bell, hey, nothing wrong
with Taco Bell. If you're from

2944
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:29,850
Venezuela. That's who's getting
all the issues getting all the

2945
02:53:29,850 --> 02:53:32,790
jobs, man, we know what's going
on. Now all the gigs are gone.

2946
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:37,020
Thank you very much to our one
executive and our Associate

2947
02:53:37,020 --> 02:53:41,010
Executive Producers you have
dragged us through a yet another

2948
02:53:41,040 --> 02:53:45,090
episode, we're happy. We are, on
the other hand disappointed that

2949
02:53:45,090 --> 02:53:47,670
the number of people listen to
the show and who supported it.

2950
02:53:48,630 --> 02:53:52,860
You know, you can always donate
and air your grievances. That

2951
02:53:52,860 --> 02:53:55,650
way, you can do that too. And
there's nothing wrong with it. I

2952
02:53:55,650 --> 02:53:59,400
mean, if you email us you tell
what's gonna happen to those

2953
02:53:59,400 --> 02:54:02,430
notes? Yeah. Why don't you just
send us a donation and tell us

2954
02:54:02,430 --> 02:54:05,460
how much you hate us. I mean,
that's valid. We're okay with

2955
02:54:05,460 --> 02:54:08,700
that. Look forward to Yeah,
definitely, definitely used to

2956
02:54:08,700 --> 02:54:12,810
be much more of a thing. And of
course, we always love everyone

2957
02:54:12,810 --> 02:54:16,020
who comes in under $50 For
reasons of anonymity and our

2958
02:54:16,020 --> 02:54:19,530
sustaining donors, who are
always there for us because

2959
02:54:19,530 --> 02:54:23,010
these are donations they set up
and it goes every week or every

2960
02:54:23,010 --> 02:54:26,220
month or sometimes every show
day. And you can make one up

2961
02:54:26,220 --> 02:54:29,310
yourself no agenda donations.com
for the old schoolers.

2962
02:54:29,310 --> 02:54:33,810
dvorak.org/na And we've got a
meet ups coming up some

2963
02:54:33,810 --> 02:54:36,990
birthdays, a layaway night,
which is always exciting. After

2964
02:54:36,990 --> 02:54:40,350
John takes us through the $50
all the way down to the $50

2965
02:54:40,350 --> 02:54:41,130
donations.

2966
02:54:41,490 --> 02:54:43,860
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we'll take
a look. Starting with Greta

2967
02:54:43,920 --> 02:54:47,250
Acklin in Rice's landing
Pennsylvania, which is actually

2968
02:54:47,250 --> 02:54:51,030
a combination $150.07 was a
combination of two donations

2969
02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:55,380
5273 and 105 35. And she does
have a switcheroo. So I'll read

2970
02:54:55,380 --> 02:54:59,970
it. I would like this to be
credited to credited to my Excel

2971
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:05,910
Dingli handsome and handy
husband, Darren Aklan ah, happy

2972
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:09,210
anniversary and birthday my
love. I don't think he's on the

2973
02:55:09,210 --> 02:55:10,110
birthday list.

2974
02:55:11,880 --> 02:55:15,150
Adam Curry: And I'll double
check Dan Auckland. Okay, we

2975
02:55:15,150 --> 02:55:18,630
don't know exactly how old he
is, but he's old.

2976
02:55:19,170 --> 02:55:24,120
John C Dvorak: Okay. Dame Lee in
Arnold, Maryland. 105 35. Love

2977
02:55:24,120 --> 02:55:29,040
you guys so much. God bless you
both. Well, thank you. John G

2978
02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:33,990
$100. From Deerfield Beach,
Florida Trevor Elise in the gap.

2979
02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:37,860
Queensland, Australia. Another
Aussie I told you when I did the

2980
02:55:37,860 --> 02:55:41,850
thing about Elmer Fudd that the
Aussies to kind of chime in

2981
02:55:41,850 --> 02:55:43,110
again and here they are. They

2982
02:55:43,110 --> 02:55:45,480
Adam Curry: are man. That's and
you know what the Aussies get

2983
02:55:45,480 --> 02:55:48,450
it. They appreciate it. They
appreciate it. Um, so

2984
02:55:48,570 --> 02:55:50,850
John C Dvorak: somebody's got to
think tell him what's going on.

2985
02:55:50,970 --> 02:55:57,630
9999 says donating wise still
can't be for the security

2986
02:55:57,630 --> 02:55:59,070
Commissioner strikes.

2987
02:55:59,730 --> 02:56:02,160
Adam Curry: No Get up Get a
modern podcast app. You'll be

2988
02:56:02,160 --> 02:56:03,510
safe for a while.

2989
02:56:05,100 --> 02:56:09,090
John C Dvorak: Timothy Corcoran
in Calgary, Alberta. 8888 tion

2990
02:56:09,090 --> 02:56:14,580
MIG Tao will in Payton, Colorado
at 195. by Kevin McLaughlin

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02:56:14,580 --> 02:56:20,070
Arias 808 The only boob donation
for today. He's the Archduke of

2992
02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:24,000
Luna lover American boobs,
smalls and turnersville in

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Newark, New Jersey,

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02:56:25,680 --> 02:56:26,910
Unknown: douche bag.

2995
02:56:27,120 --> 02:56:32,070
John C Dvorak: Smalls from
Philly aka Gotham City. $69 sir

2996
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:40,410
becoming heroic in sharer Ville,
Indiana 6886 which is jiggly

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02:56:40,410 --> 02:56:47,640
Whoops, that's cool. Mark parent
lady Smith, BC Canada 6789. And

2998
02:56:47,640 --> 02:56:52,110
as i Happy birthday to a smokin
hot wife. Fluffy comet. Yes

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fluff comet she's been around.
Sure evil Larry. In Thompson

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02:56:56,490 --> 02:57:03,060
station, Tennessee. 6325 miles
in Charlottesville, Virginia

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02:57:03,060 --> 02:57:09,420
5714 Very fine people. He's one
of them. Top notch heating and

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air conditioning in Manti Utah.
To defy for defy go to top notch

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heating. Peter Chung that you
want to divide 10 Surprise night

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02:57:20,460 --> 02:57:29,040
of astonishment. Yukon Oklahoma
5444. Virginia Urzua in Oakland

3005
02:57:29,610 --> 02:57:34,860
oaktown 5333 and so happy
birthday to Sonia see turning 33

3006
02:57:36,240 --> 02:57:44,520
Another 33 Sir Maddie and Bend
Oregon 5272 George is as a cat

3007
02:57:44,520 --> 02:57:51,060
cat callow Cal Cal Cal aapke.
Collab Caleb in Saline Michigan

3008
02:57:51,330 --> 02:57:57,330
50 to 71 I wish it is pronounced
some screwball way but it says

3009
02:57:57,330 --> 02:58:02,220
st no not named but liens. liens
probably some isn't. So the

3010
02:58:02,250 --> 02:58:07,110
price a lead even though it says
saline. Scott Nelson our buddy

3011
02:58:07,110 --> 02:58:10,470
in Council Bluffs Iowa $50.01
Now the following people are all

3012
02:58:10,470 --> 02:58:14,580
$50 donors name and location now
the shortlist, making a total of

3013
02:58:14,580 --> 02:58:19,920
36 donors for the whole show.
Jack Schofield in yankeetown,

3014
02:58:19,920 --> 02:58:25,740
Florida Brian Eamon Heiser in
Lancaster, California Aaron wise

3015
02:58:25,740 --> 02:58:30,840
Gerber in Bend, Oregon, Richard
Gardner. I probably says Parts

3016
02:58:30,840 --> 02:58:35,520
Unknown. I think he's in New
York, Michael L. Elmore in

3017
02:58:35,520 --> 02:58:40,350
Gastonia North Carolina, John
Taylor in Florissant. Colorado,

3018
02:58:40,740 --> 02:58:47,130
Zev green in Teaneck, New
Jersey, J Alvarez in Meridian.

3019
02:58:47,280 --> 02:58:51,900
Mer are married and I'm sorry
Meriden Connecticut. Steven

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02:58:51,900 --> 02:58:55,770
crummy, our buddy in El Cajon,
California. Last on the list.

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02:58:56,400 --> 02:59:02,010
Alex? Salah shower solid salsa
Salsa Sour sour. Yeah, tell us

3022
02:59:02,010 --> 02:59:06,750
our he's been doing shakers
hyped? He's been Ohio. I want to

3023
02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:10,740
thank these people for letting
us do show 1655

3024
02:59:10,800 --> 02:59:14,250
Adam Curry: And we also again
want to thank our executive and

3025
02:59:14,250 --> 02:59:17,670
Associate Executive Producers
you made it happen for show

3026
02:59:17,670 --> 02:59:20,190
number episode 6055 formula

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02:59:20,190 --> 02:59:24,120
Unknown: is this. We go out we
hit people in the mouth

3028
02:59:35,580 --> 02:59:38,340
Adam Curry: no agenda
donations.com become a producer

3029
02:59:38,340 --> 02:59:39,060
today

3030
02:59:46,290 --> 02:59:49,320
and no shortage of birthdays. We
got Mark Perrin, wishing his

3031
02:59:49,320 --> 02:59:52,980
smokin hot wife fluff calm and
happy one was her birthday

3032
02:59:52,980 --> 02:59:57,720
yesterday Virginia or XUA says
Happy Birthday to Sonya see

3033
02:59:57,960 --> 03:00:02,460
turning 33 Tomorrow Oh, Katie
chopper was through son Ezekiel

3034
03:00:02,460 --> 03:00:05,910
chopper Happy Birthday he'll be
32 on the 30th. Sergio

3035
03:00:05,910 --> 03:00:09,990
celebrates on May 8 and Darren
Aklan gets a big happy birthday

3036
03:00:09,990 --> 03:00:12,570
from his loving wife. Happy
birthday, everybody get the best

3037
03:00:12,570 --> 03:00:17,250
podcast in the universe. And
we've got to lay away night.

3038
03:00:17,460 --> 03:00:21,450
Yes, indeed you can. You can
just keep your own your own

3039
03:00:21,450 --> 03:00:24,630
accounting and you can take as
long as you want. In fact, John

3040
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:28,920
Walters says after 20 months of
a fearless battle against the

3041
03:00:28,920 --> 03:00:32,610
Pay Pal evil domain I finally
obtained my knighthood from

3042
03:00:32,610 --> 03:00:35,730
henceforth I would like to be
known as Sir trout Milt guardian

3043
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:39,930
of the squealed Chuck Do you
think I got that right? squealed

3044
03:00:43,080 --> 03:00:47,610
I would like to request smoked
rattlesnake for the feast and a

3045
03:00:47,640 --> 03:00:54,240
bridge lip sucker fish bridge
lips sucker fish that sounds no

3046
03:00:54,240 --> 03:00:58,710
idea and sadly Well normally you
know these culinary treats. All

3047
03:00:58,710 --> 03:01:01,350
right, well, I ordered it for
you so it's they're dead so it's

3048
03:01:01,350 --> 03:01:04,470
good. Thank you for your
continued media deconstruction

3049
03:01:04,470 --> 03:01:07,260
and true common sense
entertainment. A big thank you.

3050
03:01:07,500 --> 03:01:11,940
To my Nash, no agenda. Stay hard
brothers gun yar for hitting me

3051
03:01:11,940 --> 03:01:16,230
in the mouth. And Leos are Leo J
for challenging me to complete

3052
03:01:16,230 --> 03:01:22,650
33 333 Push ups with 33,333 Push
ups during this year of our Lord

3053
03:01:22,650 --> 03:01:26,400
2024 John, thanks for all you
do. I would like to request a D

3054
03:01:26,400 --> 03:01:29,700
douching. As I never received
one with my first $50 donation

3055
03:01:29,880 --> 03:01:34,170
back in September of 2022. And
an R two d two karma Do you have

3056
03:01:34,170 --> 03:01:45,000
any sound bites of Macho Man
Randy Savage. No. You do not

3057
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:45,510
have that.

3058
03:01:45,900 --> 03:01:46,740
Unknown: You've got

3059
03:01:49,200 --> 03:01:54,240
Adam Curry: karma. All right.
Well, with that, very happy to

3060
03:01:54,240 --> 03:01:57,210
bring you up onto the podium.
Here is the blade for our

3061
03:01:57,210 --> 03:02:00,510
layaway night. You gotta you
gotta go I got one beautiful.

3062
03:02:01,350 --> 03:02:06,570
All right, Joe Walter stepping
up, young man. Thanks to your 20

3063
03:02:06,570 --> 03:02:10,650
months of fearless battle and
finally making it it does work.

3064
03:02:10,650 --> 03:02:13,980
Everybody can become a knight or
Dame with a no agenda show. I am

3065
03:02:13,980 --> 03:02:17,730
very proud to pronounce the Kate
the yes sir Trump milk guardian

3066
03:02:17,730 --> 03:02:22,590
of the spoil Chuck. And by your
request we have besides the

3067
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hookers and blow in the red boys
and Chardonnay smoke rattlesnake

3068
03:02:25,590 --> 03:02:30,840
for the feasts with a brunch lip
suckerfish. Along with that, in

3069
03:02:30,840 --> 03:02:33,840
case you're interested, we've
got some Rubenesque women and

3070
03:02:33,840 --> 03:02:37,320
Rosae we have some bong hits and
bourbon, some ginger ale and

3071
03:02:37,320 --> 03:02:41,910
Jerboas breast milk and pablum
sparkling cider and escorts are

3072
03:02:41,910 --> 03:02:44,910
of course the mutton and Mead
right here for you. Thank you so

3073
03:02:44,910 --> 03:02:48,090
much. It's great to see the
layaway knights step up, go to

3074
03:02:48,090 --> 03:02:50,940
no agenda rings.com Anybody can
go there and take a look at that

3075
03:02:50,940 --> 03:02:55,050
handsome Knight ring. Also for
dame's of course in the size of

3076
03:02:55,050 --> 03:02:58,470
your choice, which means you
have to size it there's a little

3077
03:02:58,470 --> 03:03:02,010
handy ring sizing guide there,
give us an address, we'll send

3078
03:03:02,010 --> 03:03:05,730
that to you. It's a signet ring
so you can use it to with the

3079
03:03:05,730 --> 03:03:10,020
supplied wax to seal your
important correspondence. And in

3080
03:03:10,020 --> 03:03:13,350
addition to that, we get a
certificate of authenticity

3081
03:03:13,350 --> 03:03:17,460
because it's real. This you are
real night of the no agenda

3082
03:03:17,460 --> 03:03:19,890
roundtable. Thank you all so
much for supporting us here at

3083
03:03:19,890 --> 03:03:22,530
episode 1655. No one

3084
03:03:29,640 --> 03:03:33,540
another way you can help out the
show is by organizing meetups

3085
03:03:33,540 --> 03:03:36,900
people love going to meet up
they love getting together. It

3086
03:03:36,900 --> 03:03:40,380
really is a supplemental program
that comes in addition with

3087
03:03:40,380 --> 03:03:43,290
immediate deconstruction. So you
can talk about it the pros the

3088
03:03:43,290 --> 03:03:46,320
cons, I mean and no one's ever
the Eve as far as I know.

3089
03:03:46,410 --> 03:03:49,170
There's never even been an
Israel Hamas fight at any of

3090
03:03:49,170 --> 03:03:52,830
these meetups which is amazing
because only amazing people go

3091
03:03:52,830 --> 03:03:56,280
to them like these in Fort
Wayne, Indiana. adilyn

3092
03:03:56,280 --> 03:03:58,410
Unknown: John, This is Shannon
in Fort Wayne we had nine in

3093
03:03:58,410 --> 03:04:00,600
attendance three had to bug out
early Johnny would love the

3094
03:04:00,600 --> 03:04:03,510
house wine has got electrolytes.
Sally from Fort Wayne having a

3095
03:04:03,510 --> 03:04:08,010
great time in the morning. Thank
you, Jared from Fort Wayne. How

3096
03:04:08,070 --> 03:04:10,920
fun time was surely two in the
morning.

3097
03:04:11,280 --> 03:04:15,240
We close to Dan to get time at
lunch today. Thanks, Mike

3098
03:04:15,240 --> 03:04:16,500
and for weighing in the morning.

3099
03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:19,770
Adam Curry: See you next month
die. Alright, energetic bunch

3100
03:04:19,770 --> 03:04:22,380
over there in Fort Wayne
Kernersville North Carolina.

3101
03:04:22,380 --> 03:04:25,380
Here's their report. Hey, John
Adam, this is Sir William of

3102
03:04:25,380 --> 03:04:27,750
West Pennsyltucky at the
Kernersville North Carolina

3103
03:04:27,750 --> 03:04:32,520
meetup, trains good plastic
planes bad. This is boring in

3104
03:04:32,520 --> 03:04:33,210
the morning.

3105
03:04:33,600 --> 03:04:36,030
Unknown: This is Sir James about
the cheesecake.

3106
03:04:36,270 --> 03:04:39,690
John C Dvorak: John and Adam.
This is producer x from the

3107
03:04:39,690 --> 03:04:42,870
Kernersville meetup thanking you
both for your courage in the

3108
03:04:42,870 --> 03:04:46,290
morning gentlemen, this is
Richie Rich. Keep up the great

3109
03:04:46,290 --> 03:04:49,620
work. This is Ashley from
Gibsonville in the morning,

3110
03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:55,590
making our own meal you says
Christine for rally in the

3111
03:04:55,590 --> 03:04:56,070
morning.

3112
03:04:58,800 --> 03:05:00,750
Adam Curry: Great sign off.
Thank you Very much. There's a

3113
03:05:00,750 --> 03:05:04,080
couple more meetups that are
taking place actually today. The

3114
03:05:04,080 --> 03:05:08,520
I must be high number 15 which
is already underway I think in

3115
03:05:08,520 --> 03:05:12,660
Granite brewery in Toronto,
Canada. And on Thursday that'll

3116
03:05:12,660 --> 03:05:16,500
be the second of May the
northern wake amygdala shaving

3117
03:05:16,530 --> 03:05:20,490
meet up six o'clock at hoppy
endings in Raleigh, North

3118
03:05:20,490 --> 03:05:24,330
Carolina. On the way in the next
month or so Torrance, California

3119
03:05:24,330 --> 03:05:26,460
Arlington, Virginia Blaine,
Washington late in the

3120
03:05:26,460 --> 03:05:28,890
Netherlands Indianapolis,
Indiana, Charleston, South

3121
03:05:28,890 --> 03:05:32,280
Carolina, Charleston, North
Carolina, Richmond, Virginia

3122
03:05:32,280 --> 03:05:36,840
Austin, Texas on the 18th Hagen
them Connecticut Athens, Greece.

3123
03:05:36,870 --> 03:05:40,500
I need a meet up report from you
guys on the 22nd Tulsa, Oklahoma

3124
03:05:40,500 --> 03:05:44,340
then in June Fargo, North Dakota
Scottsdale Arizona Mosley,

3125
03:05:44,340 --> 03:05:47,940
Virginia, the 15th Amsterdam the
Netherlands I will be there and

3126
03:05:47,940 --> 03:05:53,430
Trinidad and Tobago on July 28.
Dude, send us meet up reports.

3127
03:05:53,760 --> 03:05:56,940
I'll even edit it together if
you got gaps. Don't worry about

3128
03:05:56,940 --> 03:05:59,190
if you have someone that you can
produce it that's even better.

3129
03:05:59,340 --> 03:06:04,050
No agenda meetups.com If you
have never been to one, find one

3130
03:06:04,050 --> 03:06:07,680
at that website. If you can't
find one start one yourself.

3131
03:06:07,710 --> 03:06:09,570
It's easy sons

3132
03:06:12,750 --> 03:06:23,220
Unknown: Dyson day you won't be
triggered. You want to be buddy

3133
03:06:23,220 --> 03:06:27,510
feels the same. Is like

3134
03:06:28,920 --> 03:06:32,970
Adam Curry: yeah, maybe like one
big party. And as we always like

3135
03:06:32,970 --> 03:06:35,250
to do as we get nearer to the
end of the show. We'd like to

3136
03:06:35,700 --> 03:06:38,550
bring you into the way the
sausage is made with some of the

3137
03:06:38,550 --> 03:06:42,060
production work as we determine
what our end of show ISO will

3138
03:06:42,060 --> 03:06:44,580
be. Do you have any for us
today?

3139
03:06:44,700 --> 03:06:46,770
John C Dvorak: Yes, I do have
to. Oh, okay.

3140
03:06:48,090 --> 03:06:50,760
Adam Curry: Yes, I see them all
right, here we go. What you got?

3141
03:06:51,390 --> 03:06:52,800
John C Dvorak: Start with
insult.

3142
03:06:53,130 --> 03:06:55,260
Unknown: Do not insult the
intelligence of

3143
03:06:55,260 --> 03:06:56,250
the American people.

3144
03:06:56,850 --> 03:07:01,050
Adam Curry: So long. Borderline
borderline on the length

3145
03:07:03,540 --> 03:07:08,430
John C Dvorak: nothing burger
and nothing burger. Me Yeah,

3146
03:07:08,520 --> 03:07:12,810
yeah. W e if you don't like the
long one you're gonna have to.

3147
03:07:13,290 --> 03:07:13,650
Well, let

3148
03:07:13,650 --> 03:07:16,170
Adam Curry: me see if I can do
any better. The whole thing is

3149
03:07:16,200 --> 03:07:16,980
icky to me.

3150
03:07:18,870 --> 03:07:20,760
John C Dvorak: Hmm. I like it.

3151
03:07:20,820 --> 03:07:25,230
Adam Curry: I got more. Yeah,
you're wrong. No, no doubt with

3152
03:07:25,230 --> 03:07:26,160
this one. Surely we can

3153
03:07:26,160 --> 03:07:27,810
Unknown: find better things to
do than this.

3154
03:07:30,450 --> 03:07:32,940
Adam Curry: And then I think
finally, this is a possible

3155
03:07:32,940 --> 03:07:33,240
winner.

3156
03:07:33,270 --> 03:07:34,560
Unknown: See you later.

3157
03:07:34,770 --> 03:07:39,300
John C Dvorak: I like that one a
lot. You're Wow, you actually

3158
03:07:39,300 --> 03:07:40,380
have three good ones.

3159
03:07:40,620 --> 03:07:43,920
Adam Curry: What? Which one?
Would you like? You want to hear

3160
03:07:43,920 --> 03:07:44,460
him again?

3161
03:07:44,910 --> 03:07:47,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, duh. Yeah,
except for the second was no

3162
03:07:47,430 --> 03:07:49,740
good. The whole thing is icky to
me.

3163
03:07:50,130 --> 03:07:51,420
Unknown: See y'all later.

3164
03:07:52,560 --> 03:07:55,830
Surely we can find better things
to do than this. I think

3165
03:07:55,830 --> 03:07:58,110
John C Dvorak: they might as
well go with that was Zuckerberg

3166
03:07:58,110 --> 03:07:58,680
it sounds like

3167
03:07:58,680 --> 03:08:00,540
Adam Curry: No, that's a Jeff
Jarvis.

3168
03:08:02,040 --> 03:08:04,980
John C Dvorak: It's interesting.
They have the same intonations.

3169
03:08:05,190 --> 03:08:06,270
Same meal. Yeah.

3170
03:08:07,290 --> 03:08:09,390
Adam Curry: Must be you want to
do that one. You wanna do the

3171
03:08:09,390 --> 03:08:10,080
Jarvis?

3172
03:08:14,430 --> 03:08:15,630
John C Dvorak: Let's go see you
later.

3173
03:08:15,660 --> 03:08:19,440
Adam Curry: See you later. Okay.
See you later. It is good. Good

3174
03:08:19,440 --> 03:08:23,790
news. Good news. Good news. Good
news. I got actually got an

3175
03:08:23,790 --> 03:08:26,460
email or I think it was a he was
a post. I don't know if it was

3176
03:08:26,460 --> 03:08:31,770
on Twitter or a mastodon. Tom
was like, good news sucks, and

3177
03:08:31,770 --> 03:08:34,170
then all sudden heard the most
recent good news clips like good

3178
03:08:34,170 --> 03:08:39,480
news is great. So you're, you're
garnering fans. So this, of

3179
03:08:39,480 --> 03:08:41,760
course, is the clip that we like
to play for you so that you

3180
03:08:41,760 --> 03:08:44,250
don't go out all depressed about
all the horrible things that are

3181
03:08:44,250 --> 03:08:47,820
taking place because sometimes
there's just good news. What do

3182
03:08:47,820 --> 03:08:49,860
we have today? This

3183
03:08:49,860 --> 03:08:52,530
John C Dvorak: is about the
saving of a Newfoundland dog

3184
03:08:52,530 --> 03:08:56,940
that giant Newfie that was in a
fire and it's a terrible story,

3185
03:08:56,940 --> 03:09:00,450
but they saved the dog and now
he's in good spirits. And just

3186
03:09:00,540 --> 03:09:02,250
as a dog story, let's go Fox

3187
03:09:02,250 --> 03:09:04,740
Unknown: five has the dramatic
photos of Peachtree City

3188
03:09:04,740 --> 03:09:07,830
firefighters rescuing a family's
dog from their burning home

3189
03:09:07,890 --> 03:09:08,220
press.

3190
03:09:08,220 --> 03:09:11,790
You were saying was touching Go
and wait until you hear how big

3191
03:09:11,790 --> 03:09:15,150
this dog is. Fox is Doug Evans.
Gavin's talked with the family

3192
03:09:15,180 --> 03:09:16,620
and first responders.

3193
03:09:16,830 --> 03:09:20,160
This is Napoleon the 10 year old
Newfoundland. He's had a hard

3194
03:09:20,160 --> 03:09:23,340
week. Firefighters found his
lifeless body on the bedroom

3195
03:09:23,340 --> 03:09:26,520
floor of his family's Peachtree
City condo Tuesday. They say

3196
03:09:26,520 --> 03:09:30,420
smoke was ceiling to floor from
the fire. The only way out for

3197
03:09:30,420 --> 03:09:34,350
Napoleon and his rescue team
with through this window. The

3198
03:09:34,350 --> 03:09:38,820
big fella weighs 140 pounds.
After squeezing through that

3199
03:09:38,820 --> 03:09:42,660
window again the firefighters
and the dog together. They set

3200
03:09:42,660 --> 03:09:45,060
to work on life saving measures.
I think at

3201
03:09:45,060 --> 03:09:47,430
least five people carry on the
backboard so it was like

3202
03:09:47,430 --> 03:09:49,860
carrying a human. Firefighters

3203
03:09:49,860 --> 03:09:52,860
then rushed him to an emergency
vet for further life saving

3204
03:09:52,860 --> 03:09:57,210
intervention. It worked.
Napoleon was released three days

3205
03:09:57,210 --> 03:10:01,440
later and in good health and was
at the destroyed condo for a

3206
03:10:01,440 --> 03:10:03,930
reunion with his rescuers and
family.

3207
03:10:04,350 --> 03:10:06,780
It's awesome to be able to get
like I said give back and

3208
03:10:06,780 --> 03:10:09,300
everything and say that we had a
positive outcome.

3209
03:10:09,780 --> 03:10:14,640
They are amazing. They this was
a devastating loss for us and

3210
03:10:14,670 --> 03:10:18,090
they kept it from being just a
complete tragedy. But

3211
03:10:18,090 --> 03:10:21,960
they say for now, Napoleon is
enough. And they are grateful.

3212
03:10:22,260 --> 03:10:23,040
Everything

3213
03:10:23,070 --> 03:10:26,400
that we lost is replaceable,
except for

3214
03:10:27,060 --> 03:10:29,520
Napoleon, right in Peachtree
City.

3215
03:10:31,740 --> 03:10:36,810
Adam Curry: Do they edit with
the pause button over there? I

3216
03:10:36,810 --> 03:10:39,030
thought you're gonna do the
Christie Nome dog story, but

3217
03:10:39,030 --> 03:10:39,330
now.

3218
03:10:41,700 --> 03:10:44,040
John C Dvorak: You heard about
she put the dog down. Yeah, she

3219
03:10:44,040 --> 03:10:45,180
Adam Curry: just did a puppy.

3220
03:10:45,240 --> 03:10:46,950
John C Dvorak: Was that a good
story?

3221
03:10:47,070 --> 03:10:48,000
Adam Curry: That's my point.

3222
03:10:49,200 --> 03:10:56,400
Unknown: A good news story from
JCD had the vibes for you and me

3223
03:10:56,400 --> 03:11:01,260
and we all feel better. Now he's
done his bit to the back to

3224
03:11:01,260 --> 03:11:05,610
reality that's turning to shit.
No, not

3225
03:11:05,610 --> 03:11:08,310
Adam Curry: here. No reality.
Here. We are ending our

3226
03:11:08,310 --> 03:11:12,090
broadcast day. And we thank you
all, particularly trolls who

3227
03:11:12,150 --> 03:11:15,660
stuck it out. We'd like having
you here. Of course, we really

3228
03:11:15,660 --> 03:11:19,920
do. It's beautiful to have here.
Stick around on no agenda

3229
03:11:19,920 --> 03:11:22,950
stream.com. Or if you're in the
troll room, we're using a modern

3230
03:11:22,950 --> 03:11:26,070
podcast app which will alert you
within 90 seconds of us

3231
03:11:26,070 --> 03:11:32,220
publishing a new episode. We
have episode 699 of DeVore AK

3232
03:11:32,220 --> 03:11:38,220
Horwitz unplugged coming up.
That's one before the big 700

3233
03:11:38,220 --> 03:11:41,160
which is coming up on Tuesday. I
suggest you all listen to that.

3234
03:11:42,450 --> 03:11:46,710
On Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday,
Tuesday live comes out Wednesday

3235
03:11:46,710 --> 03:11:54,630
on the podcast. End of show. End
of show mixes. I'm apprehensive

3236
03:11:54,630 --> 03:11:58,500
but John says the worst but
there you go. We got Fletcher.

3237
03:11:58,530 --> 03:12:03,510
We got some Professor J. Jones.
We got Bill checking in all of

3238
03:12:03,510 --> 03:12:05,940
that and more coming to you from
the heart of the Texas hill

3239
03:12:05,940 --> 03:12:08,730
country here in February to
number six in the morning,

3240
03:12:08,730 --> 03:12:10,200
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

3241
03:12:10,560 --> 03:12:13,140
John C Dvorak: If another
Silicon Valley where we all know

3242
03:12:13,140 --> 03:12:17,550
that Phoebe is not a white lab.
I am John C. Dvorak. That's

3243
03:12:17,550 --> 03:12:18,030
true.

3244
03:12:18,270 --> 03:12:20,520
Adam Curry: That was made long
before we figured out what she

3245
03:12:20,520 --> 03:12:24,450
really was. Remember I said no
agenda donations.com until

3246
03:12:24,450 --> 03:12:29,280
Thursday, everybody in adios
MoPhO who we who we are and such

3247
03:12:32,610 --> 03:12:37,680
we begin with a battle over
paternity leave. Leave I deserve

3248
03:12:37,680 --> 03:12:42,750
it. Hey, man, I should have this
day off I have privileged I have

3249
03:12:42,750 --> 03:12:45,510
this beautiful beautiful white

3250
03:12:45,510 --> 03:12:49,170
John C Dvorak: Labrador labs for
great dogs good beginner to tell

3251
03:12:49,170 --> 03:12:51,900
Adam Curry: you man this dog was
looking at me like choose me. I

3252
03:12:51,900 --> 03:12:55,890
think we're going to adopt this
dog. Rat dog crap Dog Sweater

3253
03:12:55,890 --> 03:13:01,980
was just it was crap dog crap
dog. sweater was a trap dog

3254
03:13:02,070 --> 03:13:07,800
obviously. Well, crap dog trap
dog. sweater was this sweater

3255
03:13:07,800 --> 03:13:12,210
was wrapped dog crap dog would
you'd like a free dog. She's now

3256
03:13:12,210 --> 03:13:15,900
stuck there. When I'm frustrated
with John I need something to

3257
03:13:15,900 --> 03:13:19,740
kick so maybe this white lab
will do? Just seems like the

3258
03:13:19,740 --> 03:13:20,520
right thing to do.

3259
03:13:20,850 --> 03:13:23,370
John C Dvorak: You can't do
that. By the way. You have an

3260
03:13:23,370 --> 03:13:27,900
adult dog and they're into the
calmest greatest really good dog

3261
03:13:27,930 --> 03:13:31,140
or they're nuts. No matter what.
Well, I

3262
03:13:31,140 --> 03:13:34,710
Adam Curry: gotta tell you rap
dog trap Dog Sweater was this

3263
03:13:35,850 --> 03:13:40,680
sweater was trapped dog cat dog
sweater was this dog it was so

3264
03:13:40,680 --> 03:13:44,130
sweet. It was just trapped dog
kept Dog Sweater was that the

3265
03:13:44,130 --> 03:13:48,990
dog? The dog barks the sweater
was trapped trapped dog here we

3266
03:13:48,990 --> 03:13:51,780
have no idea about this dog
really other than trapped dog

3267
03:13:51,780 --> 03:13:55,380
trapped Dog Sweater was when you
call her she comes to whatever

3268
03:13:55,380 --> 03:14:01,200
was trapped dog crap dog knows
what it was if you don't believe

3269
03:14:01,200 --> 03:14:03,900
you don't listen to it. You have
no idea how much content is in

3270
03:14:03,900 --> 03:14:04,560
there. Okay,

3271
03:14:05,040 --> 03:14:07,380
John C Dvorak: before we went
any further is this particular

3272
03:14:07,380 --> 03:14:10,560
clip because it does bring out
an issue that I think is

3273
03:14:10,800 --> 03:14:17,370
floating around. Canada is the
subtext around just like being

3274
03:14:17,370 --> 03:14:19,170
in a different domain. It is
like being in a different

3275
03:14:19,170 --> 03:14:22,140
dimension. You just float around
and don't cause trouble.

3276
03:14:25,080 --> 03:14:33,180
Apparently, people are floating
around when you're in them, or

3277
03:14:33,180 --> 03:14:36,720
around them, whether you're in
for a little short term or long

3278
03:14:36,720 --> 03:14:43,170
term around so they're floating
around and they're stringing

3279
03:14:43,170 --> 03:14:50,580
because we have telephone poles
around. YC he was floating

3280
03:14:50,580 --> 03:14:53,430
around. That's what I thought
the story was about.

3281
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,250
We started doing our show this
stuff was floating around.

3282
03:15:04,140 --> 03:15:06,660
Adam Curry: I can tell you right
now people doing Trump with

3283
03:15:06,660 --> 03:15:09,540
farts you're not going to be
shows lighten your rip and it's

3284
03:15:09,540 --> 03:15:11,400
not just farming jobs is

3285
03:15:11,460 --> 03:15:13,500
Unknown: huge red ribbon
hashtags.

3286
03:15:14,250 --> 03:15:17,400
Trump's lawyers repulsed by the
scent and the smell oh

3287
03:15:17,400 --> 03:15:21,150
Adam Curry: yay. More of that
he's actually passing gas. It's

3288
03:15:21,150 --> 03:15:22,740
just too beautiful to believe.

3289
03:15:23,550 --> 03:15:27,630
Unknown: Snopes looked into this
very interesting what diaper doc

3290
03:15:27,630 --> 03:15:27,840
love

3291
03:15:27,840 --> 03:15:30,270
Adam Curry: were podcast
breaking breaking.

3292
03:15:31,470 --> 03:15:33,600
Unknown: But I went down that
rabbit hole, we give you

3293
03:15:33,600 --> 03:15:35,670
Adam Curry: some real
information and the lawyers

3294
03:15:35,670 --> 03:15:43,320
keeling over on the putting on
gas mask. Sources reliable

3295
03:15:43,320 --> 03:15:44,130
sources

3296
03:15:44,160 --> 03:15:46,140
Unknown: because he can't read.
He's written as

3297
03:15:47,340 --> 03:15:50,250
Adam Curry: breaking breaking.
He's worn diapers, since

3298
03:15:50,250 --> 03:15:52,650
Unknown: probably the 1980s
nickname was wet wipes,

3299
03:15:53,040 --> 03:15:55,800
witnessed him and soiling
himself in a rage sitting

3300
03:15:57,570 --> 03:16:00,030
to do with anything he did in
the Oval Office

3301
03:16:00,180 --> 03:16:03,570
with the Turkish president and
Dianne Feinstein and they did

3302
03:16:04,590 --> 03:16:05,610
absolutely nothing.

3303
03:16:08,940 --> 03:16:12,570
Get paid. And he just freaked
out and then very loudly,

3304
03:16:12,990 --> 03:16:14,460
evacuated is bound to

3305
03:16:14,460 --> 03:16:15,810
smell. Bad

3306
03:16:15,810 --> 03:16:18,000
acts only may have led off a
sharp

3307
03:16:18,720 --> 03:16:19,710
Adam Curry: while the US

3308
03:16:19,710 --> 03:16:22,230
Unknown: dresses sniffing is far
shorter than

3309
03:16:23,460 --> 03:16:25,080
nothing wrong. Absolutely.

3310
03:16:29,400 --> 03:16:30,450
Better than you know, could

3311
03:16:30,450 --> 03:16:33,240
Adam Curry: it be a jury
intimidation is Trump as far as

3312
03:16:33,240 --> 03:16:34,740
intimidating the jury and

3313
03:16:34,740 --> 03:16:36,360
Unknown: that it's very stinky
around him.

3314
03:16:36,450 --> 03:16:37,560
It's putrid odor.

3315
03:16:37,650 --> 03:16:40,110
It's actually impacting the
people around him. So

3316
03:16:40,620 --> 03:16:42,540
Adam Curry: what are you
thinking? Don't you know us by

3317
03:16:42,540 --> 03:16:42,990
now?

3318
03:16:51,690 --> 03:16:54,720
Unknown: borak.org/n

3319
03:16:54,810 --> 03:16:58,170
A See y'all later.