1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,800 John C Dvorak: Take my potholes. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,140 Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah 3 00:00:04,890 --> 00:00:07,890 Adam Curry: second 2020 for this award winning combination media 4 00:00:07,890 --> 00:00:14,880 assassination episode 1665. This is no agenda, reclaiming the 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,600 rainbow and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Old 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,390 Country right here and FEMA Region number six in the 7 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:23,670 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry from 8 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:26,250 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where I see the liberal 9 00:00:26,250 --> 00:00:29,640 media is calling Trump a convicted felon, by their own 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,480 standards shouldn't be calling him a justice in pacted. 11 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:39,120 Individual, I'm John C. Dvorak kill them. for 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,700 Adam Curry: about 16 years, it's been the same length of opening. 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,560 Somehow you manage to overstep your boundary. I did. And I knew 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,210 it too. All right. Happens all the time. happens to the best 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,430 podcasters Yeah. Yeah, you may step up on that mic. You know, 16 00:00:56,430 --> 00:00:59,880 you're back in the back of the back room talking to the mic, 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,160 man. Come on, man. Talk to that mic. 18 00:01:02,190 --> 00:01:03,660 John C Dvorak: Rather mumble in the background. 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,570 Adam Curry: That's your exit strategy mumbling in the 20 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:10,260 background. Sounds perfect. I think if I may make a 21 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:17,550 programming suggestion. Yes. I suggest since this all went down 22 00:01:17,550 --> 00:01:21,090 at the end of 1664. On Thursday on the show today, of course, we 23 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:24,870 could have known perhaps we kick today off with a three by three. 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,120 John C Dvorak: I think that's a great idea. Now it's 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,690 Unknown: done both three by three. It's very recommend five 26 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:35,040 juicy work, comparing stories from ABC, CBS. 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Adam Curry: It also makes people real happy when they hear that 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,740 jingle. Everyone's just like, I don't care what comes after 29 00:01:43,740 --> 00:01:46,890 that. The jingle just makes them happy. It's like the opposite of 30 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:48,960 African news. And everyone, everyone. 31 00:01:50,430 --> 00:01:52,620 John C Dvorak: Which I have 40 had African you. Yes, we do. 32 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:53,340 Fair warning 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,370 Adam Curry: of African news. Not a lot. But we do have some we 34 00:01:56,370 --> 00:01:59,970 got some African news. Yeah. All right. So I'm just guessing. 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,460 This is about Trump. 36 00:02:03,150 --> 00:02:05,250 John C Dvorak: Trump. Yeah, of course, the three by three and 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,600 of course, the main stream cables. Nobody listens to that. 38 00:02:10,170 --> 00:02:14,670 They all had no God over Trump getting found guilty, but it was 39 00:02:14,670 --> 00:02:18,870 a foregone conclusion, according to most of the experts. And now 40 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:21,000 it gives away something to complain about. Yeah, 41 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:21,870 Adam Curry: thank goodness. 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,120 John C Dvorak: So let's start with ABC. 43 00:02:27,150 --> 00:02:29,730 Unknown: Tonight. Former President Donald Trump defiant 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,120 arriving home at Trump Tower after being found guilty as 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,870 charged of all 34 counts of falsifying business records. 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,680 Trump now a convicted felon, the historic verdict coming after 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,950 nearly 10 hours of deliberations, a unanimous jury 48 00:02:43,950 --> 00:02:47,940 of 12 New Yorkers made trump the first president in history to be 49 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:51,030 a convicted criminal former president then marching out of 50 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:53,640 the courtroom with his lawyer Todd Blanche by his side 51 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:59,580 this was a disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,880 November 5 by the people and outside court. 53 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:10,650 Cheers could be heard in the crowd as 54 00:03:10,650 --> 00:03:12,660 news of Trump's convictions sprint. 55 00:03:14,970 --> 00:03:18,630 trial lasting seven weeks 22 Witnesses taking the stand 56 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:21,870 including Trump's former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen, who 57 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:26,160 Trump's defense team called the greatest liar of all time. Judge 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,010 one Rashaan thanked the jury for their handling of a very 59 00:03:29,010 --> 00:03:33,060 stressful and difficult task saying you're excused with the 60 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:36,930 gratitude of the court court dismissed the sentencing date 61 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:41,190 for Donald Trump, July 11, just four days before the Republican 62 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:42,210 National Convention. 63 00:03:43,230 --> 00:03:46,410 Adam Curry: Wow. Well, well, I love us naming some key words 64 00:03:46,410 --> 00:03:50,760 some key words. A fixer, I always love that term fixer 65 00:03:50,790 --> 00:03:55,530 fixer. They just throw that in there without evidence. Fix it. 66 00:03:55,530 --> 00:03:58,680 When did he fix? Not much he didn't do a very good job of 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 fifth what kind of fix her is that? He can't even had a good 68 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,480 one can't even fix up a pornstar. 69 00:04:04,860 --> 00:04:08,310 John C Dvorak: Now Yeah, but that $150,000 I should point 70 00:04:08,310 --> 00:04:15,630 out, pales in comparison to the $850,000 that Bill Clinton paid 71 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:17,400 out to Paula Jones. 72 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:20,459 Adam Curry: Oh, that's what about is a man what he's doing. 73 00:04:20,699 --> 00:04:21,689 It's what about ism. 74 00:04:22,770 --> 00:04:24,180 John C Dvorak: But nothing happened there. 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,450 Adam Curry: Do you remember what Jim Don't you remember when? 76 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,820 When Trump brought to the to the debate he brought all those 77 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:34,830 women that had accused Bill Clinton 78 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,640 John C Dvorak: didn't i Yes, that was that was I remember 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,390 that. Another Grace done? Good times. Where's 80 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:44,640 Adam Curry: that? Where's the liquid back to those days? That 81 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,900 seems like awesome times now compared to this. Okay, 82 00:04:48,930 --> 00:04:53,160 John C Dvorak: let's go to ABC tonight. We just did a I'm 83 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,810 sorry. NBC. NBC tonight 84 00:04:54,810 --> 00:04:58,320 Unknown: FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP found guilty convicted by 85 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,160 a Manhattan I'm 86 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,980 Adam Curry: surprised that no One had like a hammer clunk. 87 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:04,260 That would have been a great sound effects 88 00:05:04,260 --> 00:05:08,190 John C Dvorak: for a net pop of a hammer. A gavel, a gavel? Yes. 89 00:05:08,190 --> 00:05:08,250 A 90 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:09,990 Adam Curry: gavel should have been a gavel in there. Where's 91 00:05:09,990 --> 00:05:10,170 my 92 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:13,620 John C Dvorak: gavel here? I never use it as a sound effect. 93 00:05:14,010 --> 00:05:15,810 Adam Curry: Yeah, give us a gavel sound effect let 94 00:05:15,810 --> 00:05:17,460 John C Dvorak: me play it that's what it sounds like 95 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:25,380 Adam Curry: very underwhelmed very underwhelming Wait me 96 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:30,540 didn't we have Maxine Waters gravel? Let me have that. And we 97 00:05:30,540 --> 00:05:32,370 have Kunal, we 98 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:34,710 John C Dvorak: have any sound effects. I don't think we have 99 00:05:35,370 --> 00:05:38,130 yet to get gaveled in Sonic good. Oh, wait needs an echo 100 00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:40,020 versus large. 101 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:41,520 Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get here. 102 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,210 Unknown: Tonight FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP found 103 00:05:45,210 --> 00:05:49,470 guilty convicted by a Manhattan jury of all charges. Now the 104 00:05:49,470 --> 00:05:53,190 first American president ever convicted of a crime. Jurors 105 00:05:53,190 --> 00:05:57,240 Finding Mr. Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying his 106 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,230 business records to cover up a conspiracy to influence the 2016 107 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:05,100 election by hiding how we reimbursed his former fixer for 108 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:07,950 paying off a porn star before the election. Cohen's 109 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:11,490 credibility in this case was key. The defense team branding, 110 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:14,340 the now disbarred lawyer, who had been convicted of lying 111 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,660 under oath as the MVP of liars with an axe to grind against Mr. 112 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:22,620 Trump, while Prosecutors argued Mr. Trump chose Mr. Cohen for 113 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:26,130 the same qualities that his attorneys now urge you to reject 114 00:06:26,130 --> 00:06:29,940 his testimony. Mr. Trump, who did not testify reacting to the 115 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:33,450 verdict tonight, attacking the case as politically motivated by 116 00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:36,750 a democratic da in deep blue Manhattan. There's 117 00:06:36,750 --> 00:06:41,760 a rig trial a disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change. 118 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:49,290 We were at 5% or 6%. In this district in this area. This was 119 00:06:49,290 --> 00:06:54,420 a rigged disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be 120 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:59,430 November 5 by the people and they know what happens outside 121 00:06:59,430 --> 00:07:01,740 of court. Boos and cheers 122 00:07:01,770 --> 00:07:05,550 Adam Curry: boos and cheers should have been cheers and 123 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:10,110 cheers. I don't know why they didn't. Cheers. 124 00:07:10,110 --> 00:07:11,880 John C Dvorak: Well, no, I think it's possible they were booing 125 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:17,910 Trump. How about that? Okay. Okay, so both these reports are 126 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:21,690 almost identical. Ah, let's see what the more creative network 127 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:22,440 Yes, 128 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,930 Adam Curry: always the creative with the CIA broadcasting 129 00:07:24,930 --> 00:07:26,760 systems. CIA, 130 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:27,690 John C Dvorak: CBS, 131 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:30,780 Unknown: the seven men and five women of the jury decided Donald 132 00:07:30,780 --> 00:07:35,550 Trump's fade in just over 11 hours. This was a disgrace in 133 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:38,580 Raging a former president who said the real decision will come 134 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:39,660 in November the real 135 00:07:39,660 --> 00:07:43,560 verdict is going to be November 5 by the people. 136 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:45,840 Adam Curry: I just want to stop this for a second because 137 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,450 they're very interesting observation from net net in the 138 00:07:48,450 --> 00:07:53,400 troll room. Why didn't anyone get any good audio from Trump? I 139 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,990 mean, was the worst audio 140 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:59,130 John C Dvorak: it's a good question. 141 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,690 Adam Curry: You know, it's like it also. 142 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,230 John C Dvorak: Yes, Echo is so cleaned it up. Do you know how 143 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:05,190 to do that? Yeah, they got 144 00:08:05,190 --> 00:08:07,590 Adam Curry: Adobe. I mean, come on people, enraging 145 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:10,110 Unknown: a former president who said the real decision will come 146 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:11,220 in November. The real 147 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:15,360 verdict is going to be November 5 by the people 148 00:08:15,390 --> 00:08:19,740 judge one Marshawn announced he will jump on July 11. Four days 149 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:23,130 before the Republican National Convention. He faces up to four 150 00:08:23,130 --> 00:08:26,340 years in prison but could be given probation with no jail 151 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:30,300 time, Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying records 152 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:33,240 to cover up his alleged sexual encounter with stormy Daniels 153 00:08:33,390 --> 00:08:38,070 during his presidential run in 2016. The jury perhaps swayed by 154 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:40,950 the prosecution's key witness, former Trump Attorney Michael 155 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:44,160 Cohen, who offered crucial testimony that directly 156 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,240 implicated Trump and falsifying the $130,000 payment. The 157 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,180 defense tried to portray Cohen as untrustworthy Trump's lead 158 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:54,570 attorney calling him the MVP of liars in closing arguments. 159 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,600 Tonight District Attorney Alvin Bragg who brought the case 160 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,130 against Trump responded, 161 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:04,170 while this defendant may be unlike any other in American 162 00:09:04,170 --> 00:09:09,030 history, we arrived at this trial. And ultimately today at 163 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:13,890 this verdict in the same manner as every other case that comes 164 00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:16,800 to the courtroom doors, yeah. rigged by following the facts 165 00:09:17,550 --> 00:09:22,110 and the law and doing so without fear or favor. 166 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:25,350 Adam Curry: No, there's the fear or favor line. Yeah, that's 167 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:27,390 pretty they pretty much use fear 168 00:09:27,390 --> 00:09:29,610 John C Dvorak: or favor constantly in his press 169 00:09:29,610 --> 00:09:31,380 conference. There 170 00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:36,870 Adam Curry: were several odd responses to this from from the 171 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:40,680 media, which I think we warrant some deconstruction here and 172 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:46,020 there to go to the to the most watched and the most outrageous. 173 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:50,130 This from the joy Reid show, the 174 00:09:50,130 --> 00:09:52,560 Unknown: only other president who faced even this possibility 175 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,500 was Richard Nixon. And you said I heard you earlier on today 176 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:59,280 saying he had the dignity to walk away. And you know, it's 177 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,610 hard to say anything nice about Richard Nixon. But in the end, 178 00:10:02,610 --> 00:10:06,180 he was a greater Patriot on any given day of the week than Trump 179 00:10:06,180 --> 00:10:07,320 is all week long. 180 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,610 By far, he tried to change our democracy. But for instance, at 181 00:10:11,610 --> 00:10:16,890 the beginning of Watergate, April 30 of 1973, he gave a TV 182 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:20,640 speech in which he talked about the judge that was sending some 183 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,930 of his people, ultimately to prison, John Sirica, calls him a 184 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:29,130 courageous judge. He praises the jury, he praises the 185 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,250 prosecutors. And he says to Americans, this is so 186 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:36,480 interesting. We must have faith in our legal system, because, 187 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,140 you know, that is the essence of America. It's exactly the 188 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,900 diametrical opposite of Donald Trump. 189 00:10:42,990 --> 00:10:46,320 And Donald Trump is the only one in American history of all these 190 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,950 presidents who has ever basically insulted our system in 191 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:51,330 the way that we're hearing him do. 192 00:10:52,170 --> 00:10:55,560 Adam Curry: So weird to bring in Richard Nixon, especially when 193 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:55,680 he 194 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,320 John C Dvorak: is what he's really remembered for wasn't 195 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,880 anything those two jerk said. It was for his saying, I am not a 196 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,900 crook. Yeah, 197 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Adam Curry: exactly. So well, there was I have an even weirder 198 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,720 one. Which came that is 199 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,850 John C Dvorak: weird, by the way. We ever thought of it as 200 00:11:11,850 --> 00:11:14,430 weird, but you're right. Well, MSNBC 201 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:17,010 Adam Curry: got the weirdo award for this. Here's the morning 202 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:18,690 Joe's show with Willie Geist, not 203 00:11:18,690 --> 00:11:22,140 Unknown: much has changed. In terms of Trump's ability to run 204 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:25,230 for president the Constitution has only three qualifications 205 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:28,140 for somebody to campaign for the presidency. None of them 206 00:11:28,140 --> 00:11:31,710 mentioned felony convictions. This is not the first time in 207 00:11:31,710 --> 00:11:35,430 American history someone found guilty and then ran for the 208 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:39,660 White House in 1920. Eugene Debs campaign from a prison cell in 209 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:42,870 Atlanta as the Socialist Party of America nominee after being 210 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:46,530 found guilty of sedition. Trump also likely well, 211 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,510 Adam Curry: I like what you're bringing out Eugene Debs. 212 00:11:52,830 --> 00:11:54,540 John C Dvorak: That's interesting for a couple of 213 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:59,100 reasons. One is Eugene Debs. If you go back and he 214 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:01,680 Adam Curry: was a commie, he was a commie. He 215 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:05,310 John C Dvorak: was the.he. He was a he was a commie. But he 216 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:09,870 would he is to this day, the darling of the progressive left. 217 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:10,560 Yes, this 218 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,730 Adam Curry: is what I don't get. 219 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:15,240 John C Dvorak: I mean, if you bring up anything about Eugene 220 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,870 Debs, and you put it in context, and you use him as an example of 221 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:23,370 anything, you will be adored by the extreme left. Well, because 222 00:12:23,370 --> 00:12:28,560 Eugene Debs was a hero mean shot you right? Idiotic I don't know 223 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,600 what they're thinking well, well, a 224 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,270 Adam Curry: memo went out apparently about Mean Gene 225 00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:38,910 because Mark Raphel Mean Gene damn Mean Gene Debs everybody. 226 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:44,610 Mark Raffaello. You know, the actor calling on climate change 227 00:12:44,610 --> 00:12:54,030 trans Maoism, etc etc. He decided to breed a piece of mean 228 00:12:54,030 --> 00:12:59,460 jeans famous Canton, Ohio speech. Listen to this and then 229 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:01,650 tell me how what is going on with these people. On 230 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:05,340 Unknown: June 18 1918. He addressed a mass rally of 231 00:13:05,340 --> 00:13:10,710 workers in Ohio, knowing that his words could lead as they did 232 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:15,480 to his arrest and imprisonment. His sentence of 10 years was 233 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,560 upheld by unanimous Supreme Court decision. Here's the 234 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,660 speech that led to his arrest. Here 235 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:24,210 Adam Curry: comes garrafa I mean Raffaello. Sam 236 00:13:24,210 --> 00:13:27,750 Unknown: Johnson declared that patriotism is the last refuge of 237 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:33,030 the scoundrel. He must have had the Wall Street Gentry in mind, 238 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,820 or at least their prototypes. For in every age has been the 239 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:43,020 tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who is wrapped himself 240 00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:50,520 in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both. To deceive 241 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:56,190 and over all the people. Every solitary one of these 242 00:13:56,190 --> 00:14:01,290 aristocratic conspirators in would be murderers, claims to be 243 00:14:01,290 --> 00:14:06,210 an arch patriot. Every one of them insists that the war is 244 00:14:06,210 --> 00:14:13,170 being waged to make the world safe for democracy. What humbug 245 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:19,080 rot what false pretense? 246 00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:25,380 Adam Curry: I'd never really considered Mean Gene in this 247 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:26,910 context at all. 248 00:14:29,850 --> 00:14:33,360 John C Dvorak: Very odd, but the fact that they dredged him up to 249 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,840 RE end to read that speech is either for cognition cognitive 250 00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:43,950 dissonance, dissonance, possibly because what he's saying is 251 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:47,340 could be played either side of the of this argument could apply 252 00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:50,160 to Trump one way or the other Trump's the anti war 253 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:55,230 Adam Curry: and democracy thing because that's that's what the 254 00:14:55,230 --> 00:14:58,710 Democrats are always talking about democracy, democracy. 255 00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:03,000 John C Dvorak: Yes, this is peculiar. This could be this 256 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,380 could be a, some sort of an OP. There 257 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:10,740 Adam Curry: it is. I should have known. I'm sorry, I don't have 258 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:12,990 to do it to you. Just for one moment here 259 00:15:13,020 --> 00:15:16,050 Unknown: at the tone. A clip from the view will be played. 260 00:15:16,710 --> 00:15:18,060 Oh, John place. 261 00:15:18,930 --> 00:15:24,360 He was in that courtroom because of what he did. Right. Yeah. And 262 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,990 those jurors were chosen by 263 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:32,550 both sides. Yes, they were right. Not really convicted here 264 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:37,680 in New York, because New York brought him to trial. This was 265 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:43,260 not a Biden thing. This was had he had he just paid the money. 266 00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:47,700 He'd have been fine. If he had to sneak some text and stuff 267 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:50,730 around. You either been fine, but he didn't do that. Instead, 268 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:56,190 he was cheap. And that's what you get. So he so can I say what 269 00:15:56,190 --> 00:15:59,280 was your reaction? Well, my reaction was I was at Costco 270 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:05,250 buying in 10 boxes of Keurig coffee. And my my, my watch 271 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:08,250 started to buzz and I got so excited. I started leaking. 272 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:15,270 Adam Curry: I mean, do what's up with that? 273 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:20,430 John C Dvorak: Very got worse. I'm glad you got that clip. 274 00:16:20,850 --> 00:16:22,500 Adam Curry: I'm not I'm sad. I'm 275 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,560 John C Dvorak: very it's like it's what is she talking about? 276 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,290 He could have just paid the fine or whatever that was that I 277 00:16:28,290 --> 00:16:30,510 don't understand what what then what fine. 278 00:16:32,610 --> 00:16:34,410 Adam Curry: Will be wasn't even speaking English in that 279 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:36,990 segment. Yeah. By the way, she 280 00:16:36,990 --> 00:16:40,020 John C Dvorak: seemed plastered possible. She did. She said, 281 00:16:40,050 --> 00:16:40,710 plastered. 282 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:41,550 Adam Curry: What's interesting, 283 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:43,380 John C Dvorak: I believe she might have been because I think 284 00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:46,230 all of them are drinking, you know, toasting to this. This is 285 00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:47,130 pathetic. And 286 00:16:47,130 --> 00:16:51,090 Adam Curry: this is what Chuck Todd. Who is he? Isn't he gone? 287 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,910 John C Dvorak: What is he supposed to be keeps 288 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:56,820 Adam Curry: coming back on Meet the Press judge Chuck Chuck Todd 289 00:16:56,820 --> 00:17:00,330 cast. And he's warning he's shaking his finger. The campaign 290 00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:03,120 Unknown: that's talking about the trial is losing. Okay. The 291 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,520 more you talk about this trial, the more you're losing with the 292 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,380 voters, you need to win. Why do I say that? First of all, 293 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:09,720 there's plenty of evidence to back this up. I'll can take you 294 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,960 back to the Bill Clinton impeachment in 1988. Republicans 295 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,210 thought for sure running against Monica Lewinsky was going to be 296 00:17:15,210 --> 00:17:18,360 a winner for them. It was not voters were like, guess what we 297 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:21,030 knew in our lives. Not only that, we already knew this about 298 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:24,360 Bill Clinton. We factored his character into our decision to 299 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:27,900 vote from an agent ID to Access Hollywood tape. Everybody's 300 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:30,690 going How can Republicans be rallying around Trump so easily 301 00:17:30,690 --> 00:17:35,550 this time? Well, speak a little bit once shame on you. Right. 302 00:17:35,580 --> 00:17:38,070 Will you twice? Well Access Hollywood take the Republican 303 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:42,540 Party walked away from him, but it voters did. And and that's 304 00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:46,440 why I think this trial is not going to have an impact. Because 305 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,200 for the same reason, the Clinton impeachment had no impact. 306 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:53,340 Voters knew Trump's moral failings before and they voted 307 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:56,460 for him anyway. People would even say it, you heard it in 308 00:17:56,460 --> 00:17:59,820 some of that sound that Chuck had. So I think this is I think 309 00:17:59,820 --> 00:18:02,520 if you're relying on this, whether you're Trump and think 310 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,860 it's a grievance thing is a good idea. You're going to turn off 311 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:07,800 the middle. And if you're Biden, and you run on too much, you 312 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,810 celebrate too much. Look, this is a sad day for America. Hard 313 00:18:12,810 --> 00:18:15,960 stop. There isn't shouldn't be any celebrate. If you're 314 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,590 celebrating. You're part of the problem. Do 315 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,580 Adam Curry: chip, Chuck target and Maddie up? That was weird. 316 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:27,780 You're part of the well, this goes 317 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:31,170 John C Dvorak: through just to interrupt that flow. So they 318 00:18:31,170 --> 00:18:34,320 were replaying, I didn't see it when they ran it. But that Trump 319 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,110 went on to Fox and Friends and they were replaying it this 320 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:43,050 morning on Fox now that 24 hour streamer. Yeah. And I was 321 00:18:43,050 --> 00:18:48,390 watching it when I had other things to do. But just Trump is 322 00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:53,250 mesmerizing, when he's going on and on and on about whatever. He 323 00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:58,380 is unbelievably good at talking. And you just don't realize it 324 00:18:58,380 --> 00:19:01,140 until sometimes he sits down with the right crew and and when 325 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:04,350 he had three people instead of just one on one, so he could 326 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:08,820 cajole three different people. It was dynamite. 327 00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:11,490 Adam Curry: What I found interesting is they so of course 328 00:19:11,490 --> 00:19:15,480 they Trump comes out with an ad and I guess he raised a lot of 329 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,870 money is that verified like $53 million. That a verified number 330 00:19:19,230 --> 00:19:21,240 John C Dvorak: that I've heard that number, but the number that 331 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:26,070 I think is accurate is 436. That's which is still a lot of 332 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:30,630 money, but they backed it off to say 34. So they can say the 333 00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:37,140 following. Oh, one for each count. There you go. But that's 334 00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:38,640 machinery. Without 335 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,570 Adam Curry: a doubt there are enough people in America, just 336 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:47,250 Americans who feel that the in general the Justice Department 337 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:53,130 is out of control. I mean, even just looking at them the FBI as 338 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:56,370 a part of the Justice Department, how they will go 339 00:19:56,370 --> 00:19:59,970 find some weak minded brother who's talking some jihadist 340 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,560 smack going 341 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,830 John C Dvorak: on for how many that started during what Obama 342 00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:05,730 or before? Yeah oh 343 00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:08,490 Adam Curry: yeah the six weeks like now I think we first start 344 00:20:08,490 --> 00:20:10,800 talking well no really we probably started talking about 345 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,410 yeah 14 years ago yeah, um, then they instead of like hey hey 346 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:19,590 Sauron sit down stop doing that nonsense we got our eye on you 347 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:23,790 know, instead, they start to sigh off and yeah, jihad is 348 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:27,300 good. Yeah, take this big this brush, just press this button. 349 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:30,180 And then he goes to press the button and nothing happens they 350 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:34,500 they SWAT him and then we save to save you again America. You 351 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:37,620 know that kind of nonsense is happening all over the place. We 352 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:42,150 know people who've gone to jail over nonsense. Yes, we do know 353 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:46,560 so. And then. So just kind of to go on the theory that they 354 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:53,670 really really want him to win the new Magga ad which is 355 00:20:53,670 --> 00:20:59,100 actually says over a minute and a half. What's the bill Barr is 356 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:03,210 all over it and all these people who distance themselves from 357 00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:03,690 him. Yeah, 358 00:21:03,690 --> 00:21:06,000 John C Dvorak: they stat and also stabbed Trump in the back 359 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,110 at one time or another. Thank you for joining us here today. 360 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Unknown: Earlier this afternoon, Donald Trump was arraigned by a 361 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,110 Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts. 362 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:23,070 This case is an abomination. It's obviously political seven 363 00:21:23,070 --> 00:21:25,920 years to try to come up with this case. They're just wrong 364 00:21:25,950 --> 00:21:29,400 on the law. The only crime that Donald Trump is being prosecuted 365 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,970 for is the crime of running for president political persecution 366 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,940 at the highest level. They've quite frankly given up on trying 367 00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:38,610 to beat him at the polls either going to steal it or stop it by 368 00:21:38,610 --> 00:21:39,030 law for 369 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:43,710 a democratic prosecutor elected on a get Trump platform. What's 370 00:21:43,710 --> 00:21:44,340 going on 371 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:49,350 here is a disgusting disgrace. It is war on slide 11. It is 372 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:54,780 more on the Republican Party. The Republicans this case is the 373 00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:58,170 weakest case. I've seen in six years of teaching, practicing 374 00:21:58,170 --> 00:22:01,080 and writing about criminal law. I doubt the New York indictment 375 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,230 would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not 376 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:05,400 Donald Trump this 377 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,910 judge I mean, you don't need a prosecutor. If you have a judge 378 00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:11,190 like this. This judge is not on the level. It's 379 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:14,460 a terrible case. But the judge has been pretty much a rubber 380 00:22:14,460 --> 00:22:17,400 stamp on everything that Greg has wanted to do. 381 00:22:17,490 --> 00:22:20,880 They've they're perverting the system of justice. That's where 382 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,700 the danger lies. The corruption and subversion of our 383 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:25,950 institutions by the lack of 384 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,280 this is the Democrats entire strategy to confine President 385 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,890 Trump to a dirty criminal courtroom and keep him off the 386 00:22:31,890 --> 00:22:34,770 campaign trail where he can bring his winning message to 387 00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:36,240 voters across this country. 388 00:22:36,270 --> 00:22:39,180 New York has become a legal Banana Republic. They are so 389 00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:43,230 determined to get Donald Trump, Donald Trump. 390 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,950 I think they have no cards, 391 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,900 Adam Curry: and they're depending upon Trump getting 392 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:51,990 convicted that Trump train doesn't show any signs of 393 00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:56,490 slowing down. The only verdict that matters. Is the verdict at 394 00:22:56,490 --> 00:23:02,400 the ballot box. Man, so it's bombastic. It's like hitting me 395 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,020 in the face with a wet salmon like 396 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,060 John C Dvorak: and Bill Barr has always been considered the CIA's 397 00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:14,580 man. Totally. So he is not saying this. And the Epstein man 398 00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:15,990 his own? No, 399 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:20,670 Adam Curry: no. So now, it's also I mean, I'm just looking at 400 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:23,760 all the different possibilities here. Because of course, it's 401 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,390 not like one Democrat party. It's not like one deep state 402 00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:31,110 that all want the same thing. This is obvious that joy, joy 403 00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:35,910 Bay heart, you know, she's leaky. So no, she, she's happy 404 00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:41,040 that Trump is going to jail she thinks, which is seems unlikely, 405 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,730 although I still think an ankle monitor will be a cool thing to 406 00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:49,470 do. Because yeah, he does this before everybody will be wearing 407 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:52,320 ankle monitors everyone, everybody everywhere fashion 408 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,170 statement as we Hey, exit strategy. 409 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:57,120 John C Dvorak: Yeah, go now you're thinking now you're 410 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:57,960 thinking? Yeah, 411 00:23:57,990 --> 00:24:00,210 Adam Curry: we got it. We got to order them now. And I'm sure we 412 00:24:00,210 --> 00:24:06,810 can get them from some Chinese outfit. There. Yeah, there are 413 00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:11,550 some other Okay, before we get to that. The worst possible 414 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:17,640 outcome? Is that everybody? It's amazing how many people like, 415 00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:21,540 you know, we can't have this, we gotta be okay, we'll just hold 416 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:24,180 our nose. There's got to be Trump, because everything else 417 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:30,030 is unhinged. And if they somehow managed to cheat, and if Trump 418 00:24:30,030 --> 00:24:35,730 doesn't win, then we we fall into I think we fall into a real 419 00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:40,980 crisis. And that may be the plan. You might be right, these 420 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:45,180 people are crazy. And we know that the media really calls the 421 00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:48,450 Presidents they call the election. They did it with 422 00:24:48,450 --> 00:24:49,620 Arizona last time. 423 00:24:50,610 --> 00:24:53,400 John C Dvorak: So that was Fox I might add. Yep. 424 00:24:53,730 --> 00:24:57,810 Adam Curry: Run by Democrats. So that would be the worst possible 425 00:24:57,810 --> 00:25:04,440 outcome. This listen Rudnick Peter zei haan you know spook 426 00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:10,770 from strat for and Austin sky is very annoying with his ponytail 427 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:13,230 and his beard he's he's ever you know 428 00:25:13,230 --> 00:25:15,090 John C Dvorak: that you know we haven't heard from him for a 429 00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:18,510 while that guy used to do these long lectures and we debated 430 00:25:18,510 --> 00:25:22,410 about where he stood on the on the spook scale whether he was a 431 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,780 actual spook or a spook want to be I still wonder whether he is 432 00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:29,850 Adam Curry: he's been ostracized I think they don't want to be 433 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,510 Dum 434 00:25:33,210 --> 00:25:35,310 Unknown: Dum Dum he's 435 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:38,190 Adam Curry: traveling because I'm sure he does he has a nice 436 00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:39,450 little career for himself 437 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:41,370 John C Dvorak: now making good money 438 00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:44,100 Adam Curry: yeah he popped up on Rogen and said all kinds of 439 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:46,800 things yeah we're still waiting for Bitcoin to go to zero Peters 440 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,700 ion no go to zero I tell 441 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,250 John C Dvorak: you zero everything will go to zero if 442 00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:55,950 you wait long enough 1000 years from now I'm sure it will be 443 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:56,520 zero 444 00:25:56,550 --> 00:26:05,220 Adam Curry: Yes. Well that's a strategy Hello Peter Schiff. The 445 00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:09,270 crash is coming. So XyO man it is I Han is on his way to the 446 00:26:09,270 --> 00:26:12,330 airport, I think in Singapore and of course, he has to do a 447 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:16,020 video about this because he's Peters ion. And it's only the 448 00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:20,880 last 50 seconds that are just interesting. The audio is a 449 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,790 little choppy because of the I guess, you know, the wind and 450 00:26:23,790 --> 00:26:26,910 the car noise but that gets better as we get into this 50 451 00:26:26,910 --> 00:26:29,850 seconds and listen to his theory because as soon 452 00:26:30,510 --> 00:26:33,840 Unknown: as the verdict came in, in Trump campaign headquarters 453 00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:36,990 cheers erupted like we can totally fundraise off of this. 454 00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:39,720 And in Biden election headquarters cheers erupted, 455 00:26:40,050 --> 00:26:44,010 totally fundraise off of this. Everyone seems to have forgotten 456 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,980 the views at the 10% of the electorate who are independents 457 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:50,790 are just kind of nauseated by the whole thing. independents 458 00:26:50,790 --> 00:26:55,650 have decided every presidential election since the early 1960s. 459 00:26:55,650 --> 00:27:00,330 And they are not going to vote for somebody who now has 34 460 00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:04,290 felonies under his belt. So as far as I'm concerned, this 461 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:07,680 product has decided the election or other reasons to think that 462 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,140 Trump was already in trouble. But this is really makes it 463 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:11,700 impossible for him to win. 464 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,230 Assuming of course, that Biden doesn't die. 465 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:25,620 Adam Curry: He's a weird dude, man. maniacal laugh. 466 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,730 John C Dvorak: That was weird. He got today's weird clip day 467 00:27:29,730 --> 00:27:30,240 from you. 468 00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:34,980 Adam Curry: And there's more coming. Now, do you think 469 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:38,370 there's any validity to that, that there's 10% independent 470 00:27:38,370 --> 00:27:41,820 voters who won't vote for someone who has 34 felonies 471 00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:42,840 under his belt? 472 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,060 John C Dvorak: No, I'm an independent voter. 473 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,850 Adam Curry: Yeah. I don't see it that way. No, 474 00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:50,010 John C Dvorak: I'm beyond independent. I've gotten non 475 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:51,120 affiliated, yes, 476 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:55,290 Adam Curry: politically homeless. Here's NBC with a 477 00:27:55,290 --> 00:27:58,860 little shorty about, about what Trump is saying. Then 478 00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:02,520 Unknown: a laundry list of false claims, grudges and grievances, 479 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,550 including against the democratic prosecutor who won the case 480 00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:06,720 against him counts. 481 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:09,660 It's a very sad thing that's happening in our country 482 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,050 John C Dvorak: to hold on Stop. How come? This isn't? 483 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:18,540 Adam Curry: I know, I know. I know. But I think this is this 484 00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:21,330 is from Him. This isn't at the courthouse. This is at Trump 485 00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:24,540 Tower, where he had control of the of the sound system. 486 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:26,040 John C Dvorak: It could be 487 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,040 Unknown: it's a very sad thing that's happening in our country. 488 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,290 And it's a it's a thing that I'm honored in a way I'm on it 489 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:37,410 because somebody has to do it. And I might as well keep going 490 00:28:37,410 --> 00:28:38,820 and be the one. The 491 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:42,390 verdict galvanizing the GOP behind him the Trump campaign 492 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:46,470 saying they raised a massive $35 million online in the hours 493 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:49,860 after the conviction came down. And with Republicans rallying 494 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:52,710 around him, there's virtually no chance he'll be kicked off the 495 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:53,790 Presidential ticket 496 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:00,930 Adam Curry: NBC Meet the Press had 497 00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:04,140 John C Dvorak: maybe he was already getting delegates. How's 498 00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:05,400 he gonna get kicked off? 499 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:10,260 Adam Curry: They got nothing to say. This is the dying elite 500 00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:14,490 media network messaging network. This is nothing they get nothing 501 00:29:14,490 --> 00:29:19,920 but this was kind of an interesting exchange. Republican 502 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,260 Representative Byron Donalds. 503 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,400 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he has been doing a lot of talk and he 504 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,760 really is angling for the vice president slob. 505 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,710 Adam Curry: That's what it is, of course. Well, the 506 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:36,600 Subcommittee on what is it? That Oh, they have a subcommittee on 507 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,320 the weaponization of government. Wow, that you might as well just 508 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,200 shut it all down and talk about that all day, because that seems 509 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,820 to be the only thing that's happening what 510 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:46,590 Unknown: President Trump's allies are rallying to his 511 00:29:46,590 --> 00:29:49,830 defense after yesterday's historic guilty verdict and now 512 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:51,750 the Republican led House Subcommittee on the 513 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:55,140 weaponization of government is requesting the Manhattan 514 00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:57,960 district attorney Alvin Bragg and the prosecutor there Matthew 515 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,560 Co. Angelo to testify but For the committee and joining me now 516 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,380 is Florida Republican Congressman Byron Donalds 517 00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:07,260 because you got to understand and let's be real about this, 518 00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:10,290 the entire reason why these charges were brought now why 519 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:13,800 this case was brought now was to interfere with the 2024 520 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,760 presidential election. It was to interfere it was to trap Donald 521 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,360 Trump in a courtroom. Well, that's the entire thing, 522 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,700 obviously. Are you gonna let me finish? Are you gonna talk over 523 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,780 me? You gotta I just wanted to talk. Okay, let me talk. Here's 524 00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:31,260 the deal. Everybody knows that the appeals process is gonna go 525 00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:35,670 well into 2025. After the election is over, say what you 526 00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:39,450 will about the merits of the case. We have never in American 527 00:30:39,450 --> 00:30:43,350 history had prosecutions of the leading presidential candidate 528 00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:46,830 of any major party in the United States. This has never happened. 529 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,450 So much so that Maine justice, their own of their own protocols 530 00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:54,180 are that they don't do this in the heat of a presidential 531 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:57,150 election. But what we have seen out of the Department of Justice 532 00:30:57,150 --> 00:31:00,420 led by Merrick Garland out of Alvin Bragg in lower Manhattan 533 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:03,840 on a fanny Willis in Georgia is that they do not care about the 534 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,390 norms of our elections. They just wasn't committee does have 535 00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:11,640 a responsibility to investigate, you 536 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Adam Curry: know, jump for the fact that NBC is letting him on 537 00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:19,650 and is highlighting him again it just all seems to point toward 538 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,110 Yeah, yeah, let's let's put these messages in people's 539 00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:26,340 heads. I'm sure NBC Meet the Press is not trying to be fair 540 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:27,330 and balanced. 541 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,440 John C Dvorak: It's an interesting I mean, we have the 542 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,480 thesis that they're the word is out that put him in Yeah. But I 543 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,390 just don't see these guys. And that guy's argumentative in such 544 00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:46,020 a way it's annoying, and you try to cut him off. It's possible 545 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:49,530 that that the upper echelon of the network, so you got to put 546 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,390 Byron on it makes to solidify his but I don't think this this 547 00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:57,960 anchors part of the part of the plan. This case 548 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Unknown: should have never brace. If he wins, just 549 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,310 Adam Curry: to be clear. Here's how the briefing went. All 550 00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:08,790 right, we're gonna bring on Byron Donalds, he's gone for the 551 00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:12,480 VP spot. You just got to just go in on a man go in on him. And 552 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,940 the guy of course is weak against Donald this. Donald's 553 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:15,990 guys pretty good. 554 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,960 John C Dvorak: Oh, he's always been good. I've always thought 555 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,190 he'd make a great Vice President for a number of reasons. But the 556 00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:26,520 one thing that's interesting is that he's not in the in the 557 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,320 running in terms of the top four or the betting odds. He's down 558 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,110 like 50 to one or something along those lines. But I've 559 00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:37,320 always thought, but ever since those betting odds first came 560 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,340 out, which include man, Nikki Haley, which will be the day 561 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:43,560 Adam Curry: she was on there for a while. 562 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:46,650 John C Dvorak: I always thought that Donald all of a sudden 563 00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:49,980 starts showing up a lot like he got a publicist or some buddies 564 00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:53,160 bugging him, because he's showing up a lot more than he 565 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,690 should. unless something's going on. Well, let's continue. Oh, my 566 00:32:57,690 --> 00:32:59,520 Unknown: gosh, are you gonna let me talk? Let me answer your 567 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,360 question. You are talking about a federal crime that has never 568 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,720 that has never been never actually decided by the Federal 569 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,840 Election Commission. They looked into this and they said, there's 570 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,320 nothing to see here. Alvin Bragg pulls it up as a state 571 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,430 prosecutor outside of his jurisdiction, and ties in some 572 00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:21,090 bookmaking charge was no longer allowed to be utilized in state 573 00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:24,930 court, all to twist it together in a legal theory to get felony 574 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,410 convictions. Come on, man, this case is a joke. You know it. I 575 00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:30,450 know what the American people know. Come 576 00:33:30,450 --> 00:33:33,090 Adam Curry: on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. 577 00:33:33,090 --> 00:33:34,140 I find a final clip. 578 00:33:34,170 --> 00:33:36,000 Unknown: Let me ask you about your Republican colleague, JD 579 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,520 Vance. He suggested that the daughter of Judge one version 580 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,550 should be subpoenaed. Should family members of public 581 00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:46,980 officials be considered fair game? Congressman, if you're 582 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:50,700 talking about the fact that the daughter of Judge Marshawn is 583 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:53,460 making millions of dollars helping Democrats raise money 584 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:58,020 online, and then that very fact has caused her dad to have a 585 00:33:58,020 --> 00:34:01,650 vested interest in in supporting a conviction of President Trump, 586 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,060 that yes, she should, because her influence with her father is 587 00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:09,150 one of the core reasons why I believe this case is going to be 588 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:12,270 overturned and says one more shot under New York not under 589 00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:16,110 New York State ethics should have recused himself because he 590 00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:18,810 has a bias against Donald Trump. And to be clear by that same 591 00:34:18,810 --> 00:34:21,720 logic, then isn't the backlash against justices Alito and 592 00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:26,220 Clarence Thomas for the actions of their wives? Reasonable? No, 593 00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:28,950 it does not. And you know better than that. You're allowed to fly 594 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:31,560 a flag, like you're allowed to speak your mind. That does not 595 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,410 mean that the judge has all of a sudden is tainted, but when the 596 00:34:34,410 --> 00:34:38,550 family is making money off of the actual trial that Judge 597 00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:42,510 Marshawn is dealing with right now. That is an ethical issue, 598 00:34:42,570 --> 00:34:44,610 and he should have recused himself before the trial even 599 00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:45,090 started. 600 00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:49,500 Adam Curry: Did let him talk about letting him say a lot of 601 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,480 things. Well, 602 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,120 John C Dvorak: I'll tell you this. I have a couple of clips 603 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,610 here about Alito. Oh, 604 00:34:57,900 --> 00:34:59,970 Adam Curry: I have some clips too, but I'll let you leave 605 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,210 These 606 00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:02,910 John C Dvorak: are the ones I promised on the last show. Good 607 00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:07,230 because this woman Kathleen Clark comes on PBS newshour to 608 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:12,990 discuss a Lido and well, let's just play him in and I will 609 00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:14,550 discuss what's what's going on here. 610 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:21,960 Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS. 611 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:25,260 Still to come on the news our Supreme Court Justice Samuel 612 00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:29,190 Alito rejects calls to recuse himself from January 6 related 613 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:32,730 cases. Despite a flag controversy, US Supreme Court 614 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,510 Justice Samuel Alito told lawmakers today he won't recuse 615 00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:40,350 himself from cases involving the 2020 presidential election or 616 00:35:40,350 --> 00:35:43,860 the January 6 Capital riot. That's despite concerns about 617 00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:47,640 two flags associated with far right causes that have flown 618 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,060 over his properties. Responding to demands from Democrats that 619 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:54,510 he disqualify himself, Alito said in two letters that his 620 00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:57,990 wife, Martha and Alito was responsible for flying the 621 00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:01,290 flags. My wife is an independently minded private 622 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:04,410 citizen, the Justice wrote, she makes her own decisions, and I 623 00:36:04,410 --> 00:36:07,890 honor her right to do so. Kathleen Clark is with us. She's 624 00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:11,130 a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis. And she 625 00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:13,800 specializes in government ethics. Thanks for being with 626 00:36:13,830 --> 00:36:15,930 us. So the New York Times reported that there was this 627 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,530 upside down American flag display that Alito is Virginia 628 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:22,680 home in the days before President Biden's inauguration. 629 00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:26,730 And in the letter that he issued today, the Justice said he had 630 00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:29,700 nothing whatsoever to do with the flag. He was not aware of 631 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,760 it. When he became aware of it. He asked his wife to take it 632 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,330 down. But she refused for several days. And he says my 633 00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:39,420 wife and I own our Virginia home jointly, she therefore has the 634 00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:43,500 legal right to use the property as she sees fit. Is that an 635 00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:46,890 adequate explanation from an ethics perspective? No, 636 00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:52,410 it is not. Justice Alito is accurate in saying that his wife 637 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:56,910 has a legal right to display a flag in front of a house that 638 00:36:56,910 --> 00:37:01,350 she co owns with him. No one's questioning her legal rights. 639 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:07,950 The issue is whether he needs to recuse once it has become clear 640 00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:12,930 that his you know, this, this, this flag associated with the 641 00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:18,090 January 6 insurrection was displayed in front of a house he 642 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:19,230 co owns. 643 00:37:19,650 --> 00:37:22,590 Adam Curry: I'm just gonna stop right here for a second. This 644 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:27,090 association thing that they're pulling is horse crap. You can't 645 00:37:27,090 --> 00:37:31,800 take you know, two, four years of history and say, Oh, that's 646 00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:35,280 that's what the flags about when both of these flags are about 647 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,230 very different things. The orange, I don't 648 00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:39,510 John C Dvorak: remember seeing either of those flags at the 649 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:43,560 insurrection. In fact, you saw mostly Trump flags and American 650 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200 flags in the US, you know, set up properly. So there's the 651 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,080 American flag representative of this too. And 652 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,560 Adam Curry: even if even if I'm flying my flag upside down on 653 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,400 July 4, it doesn't mean that I'm an insurrectionists. It means I 654 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,450 feel our country is in distress, if you want to fly that and 655 00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:04,950 there were some pine tree flags, which but but they what they've 656 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:10,200 determined now, they they the elites have determined that this 657 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:14,130 is associated therefore even just an American flag. This is 658 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:20,730 happening right now in Taylor, Texas, where the Austin LGBTQ 659 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:25,890 plus crowd came in. And some poor woman the Christmas parade 660 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:33,030 two years ago at the city hall townhall saw a request for a 661 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:36,330 Taylor pride float and went okay, is it Taylor pride way to 662 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:42,960 go we're prideful of Taylor. And then they threw some Austin What 663 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,030 do you call them? The transvestites? The? The word? I 664 00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:49,980 don't know. Yeah. The from the story. Our 665 00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:52,830 John C Dvorak: Oh, the drag queens, Queens? 666 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,710 Adam Curry: Yes. So they threw some Austin drag queens on that 667 00:38:55,710 --> 00:39:00,150 flow night. And then the cut. And then the churches as they 668 00:39:00,150 --> 00:39:02,790 call them. The church, you could have a lot of people from like 669 00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:06,420 the churches, a lot of people from Austin and moving out, you 670 00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:10,350 know, moving out to places moving out Taylor's, like 45 671 00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:14,160 minutes above Austin. And so they will order the churches. 672 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,760 Oh, of course, the churches have been in this town for, you know, 673 00:39:18,090 --> 00:39:23,220 several 100 years. And now it's gotten to the point where you 674 00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:25,830 have and there's not a lot of restaurants in Taylor's very 675 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:29,160 small. You'd have you know, there's a restaurant that will 676 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,660 fly the LGBTQ pride flag and no one goes in from the churches. 677 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,350 But then you have an American flag, just an American flag on 678 00:39:37,350 --> 00:39:42,030 your restaurant. And none of the none of the newcomers will will 679 00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:47,670 go in. It's like this flag thing. Flags are important, but 680 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:50,730 the American flag is the American flag. The appeal to 681 00:39:50,730 --> 00:39:53,610 heaven flags the appeal to have been flagged that has nothing to 682 00:39:53,610 --> 00:39:59,730 do with with January 6, other than the the news of people here 683 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,050 saying it's odd, because clearly associated, you must recuse is 684 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:07,410 your recuse. So you can't do anything with Chevron deference. 685 00:40:08,730 --> 00:40:10,860 John C Dvorak: That's really what this is about a debate at 686 00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:14,640 the base level. But there's another little subtext here, 687 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,300 which nobody seems to pick up on, especially at PBS. And I 688 00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:21,330 even after the second clip, I will explain something about 689 00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:27,210 this woman is that she and PBS all demand that that Alito, his 690 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:31,830 wife obey Alito, like she's the slave woman that we're, you 691 00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:35,400 know, the house, the house worker, whatever I use that term 692 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,570 I use housekeeper had a housekeeper and she's posted to 693 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,340 do what what the man 694 00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:44,070 Adam Curry: says, yes, do what the man says stop it. Woman. 695 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,200 John C Dvorak: It's very clear when you listen to this 696 00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:50,550 discussion that she's the one because she didn't do what the 697 00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:55,200 husband said. I mean, I'm listening to this, listen to 698 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,210 these lefties pull this stunt. This is just as bad as the, you 699 00:41:00,210 --> 00:41:05,640 know, cut not calling Trump justice impaired. I mean, it's 700 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,910 just make up your minds people. But okay, let's talk 701 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:14,070 Unknown: about his wife's first amendment rights. This is about 702 00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:19,620 recusal obligations that Congress has imposed on justices 703 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:20,460 and judges. 704 00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:24,030 Well, in his letter, he also addressed the more recent 705 00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:26,940 reporting, by the times that there was this appeal to heaven 706 00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:30,780 flag that flew at his beach home in New Jersey. This is a flag 707 00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:34,500 that was also carried by January 6, rioters and in his letter, he 708 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:37,590 says, I was not familiar with the appeal to heaven flag when 709 00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:40,320 my wife flew it, she may have mentioned that it dates back to 710 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,200 the American Revolution. And I assumed she was flying it to 711 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,680 express a religious and patriotic message. I was not 712 00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:50,130 aware of any connection between this historic flag and the stop 713 00:41:50,130 --> 00:41:53,460 the steel movement, and neither was my wife. She did not fly it 714 00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:56,520 to associate herself with that or any other group. As I said, 715 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,950 in reference to the other flag event. My wife is an 716 00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:01,770 independently minded private citizen, she makes her own 717 00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:04,860 decisions, and I honor her right to do so our vacation home was 718 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:07,920 purchased with money she inherited from her parents, and 719 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,980 is titled in her name. It is a place away from Washington, 720 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:15,600 where she should be able to relax. Again, your assessment of 721 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,860 this explanation. 722 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,800 This is A Closer call if indeed, this is a home that Justice 723 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,280 Alito doesn't have any, you know, legal rights to if that is 724 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,760 the case. But again, the issue isn't just subjectively what was 725 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,770 injustice, Alito is mine. Congress mandate mind reader 726 00:42:37,770 --> 00:42:44,370 justices, recused disqualify themselves if their impartiality 727 00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:50,100 might reasonably be questioned. It's not enough to say that, you 728 00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:55,740 know, as Justice Alito was, you know, ignorant. The question is 729 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:59,730 whether it's reasonable for people to question his 730 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:05,190 impartiality in these cases related to the January 6 731 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:06,060 insurrection. 732 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:13,260 John C Dvorak: All right, first of all, so I looked this woman 733 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:20,940 up on open secrets, and she's a donate or democrat party, and 734 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:23,400 I've got me without even going through, and it's very easy to 735 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,520 find her. She's in St. Louis, and she's a professor. And as 736 00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:30,600 they list the in open secrets, they often list the profession. 737 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,370 And that was easy to find. And I only went through, there's 1000s 738 00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:39,990 of Kathleen Clark's. And I only went to the after I got to the 739 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:44,220 third one, when she sent money to Claire McCaskill. I said, 740 00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:46,710 Okay, I got three, that's enough. They're all Democrats 741 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:50,040 and she gets, so why didn't she recuse herself or even being on 742 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,910 PBS? And why does PBS only pull people? You know, there's no 743 00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:57,480 object somebody like this. She's a Democrat. She's an obvious 744 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,530 Democrat. She's a plant. She's a stooge. And PBS pulled that 745 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:04,650 twice in that same show. The second thing they did in that 746 00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:07,890 show, instead of trying to get any fair, they've given up on 747 00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:11,580 fair and balanced. They brought on to discuss Republican 748 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:18,960 politics, that creep Joe Walsh, who was a one term, one term US 749 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,170 congressman, he was booted up by the Republicans because he they 750 00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:26,340 think they primary primary dimout. And Joe Walsh comes on 751 00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:29,040 and he's gonna give the he's going to tell us all about 752 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,870 Republican he's a one term US representative. He goes on and 753 00:44:33,870 --> 00:44:36,690 about, about how the Republicans are screwed up because they're 754 00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:40,410 not giving more credit to people like Adam Kinzinger. This is 755 00:44:40,410 --> 00:44:44,640 actually what he said, Adam Kissinger, the crybaby and 756 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:54,150 Cheney. Whatever, I can't remember her first name. And he 757 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:56,190 goes on and on about how the Republicans are screwed up 758 00:44:56,190 --> 00:44:59,880 because they're all dedicated to Trump. He's a Trump hater and 759 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,450 they Bring him on to give us a perspective from the Republican 760 00:45:03,450 --> 00:45:11,520 side. This is bullcrap PBS just stinks. They have no intention 761 00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:15,660 of giving us a balanced report. They're terrible. They should 762 00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:17,940 nobody should be giving him money. The government shouldn't 763 00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:20,730 be giving him money. And if anybody out there subscribes to 764 00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:23,880 anything PBS does send us the money. John C 765 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,130 Unknown: to borax diva today. 766 00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:31,530 John C Dvorak: Well, you told him actually have Yeah, it's 767 00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:35,250 gonna do a lot of good. I have well got it off my chest. 768 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,600 Adam Curry: You did? You did I have. In this case, I have two. 769 00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:45,480 Two clips regarding the flag game that why don't they call it 770 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,420 flag gate, who flag it and write it down. And by the way, this is 771 00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:55,890 really detracting from my pride month. No one's talking about 772 00:45:55,890 --> 00:46:03,120 our pride flags. saying like, no, there's like no pride 773 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:11,310 celebration right now. So here's Dick Durbin, who was on the I 774 00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:15,450 think the Justice Committee. He's on some kind of justice 775 00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:18,720 something. And of course he has to weigh in about this 776 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,600 impartiality of the judge. What can we do? There's got to be 777 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,430 something in the Constitution, can we do something can we do 778 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:24,990 something did them dig W 779 00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:27,480 Unknown: three courses under the Constitution are very limited, 780 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,500 but let's look it over we have before us. The first flag flying 781 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:35,250 the American flag upside down as a as a distress signal at his 782 00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:39,750 home. He dismissed is a momentary emotional lapse of his 783 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:44,010 wife making that decision. Now we have the second flag, which 784 00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:48,960 is some symbolism on the radical right, being flown in his 785 00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:50,190 vacation residence, 786 00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:53,490 Adam Curry: hold on some symbol, know, what's 787 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:57,660 John C Dvorak: his labor rate described it some crazy symbol 788 00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:59,970 of the radical right, some 789 00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:03,780 Unknown: symbolism on the radical right, being flown at 790 00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:08,370 his vacation residence. And you start to wonder, is this just a 791 00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:11,640 chance indiscretion, or is it a conscious declaration of 792 00:47:11,970 --> 00:47:14,940 omega loyalty? Maga loyalty? 793 00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:18,390 When it gets right down to it, our courts and justices don't 794 00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:21,810 have an army to enforce their opinions. They don't have the 795 00:47:21,810 --> 00:47:27,540 money to establish a an account for media control. What they 796 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,210 have is the respect for integrity of the American 797 00:47:30,210 --> 00:47:33,870 people. And this really raises a serious question when we have 798 00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:36,540 someone in the highest court in the land, who is supporting 799 00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:39,210 these political flag flags at his residence and he 800 00:47:39,210 --> 00:47:41,760 Adam Curry: said facts. I heard it hold on a second. He said 801 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,750 political facts who's 802 00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:44,670 Unknown: supporting these political flag flags 803 00:47:45,870 --> 00:47:50,730 John C Dvorak: of your race head fakes and flags. Wow, we caught 804 00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:57,870 your dick. So you know this, how is this different than the 805 00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:07,590 accusations that Crump is a criminal? She's at least is is 806 00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:10,890 subverting the justice system. This is a subversion of the 807 00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:15,810 justice system, the judicial system to be specific, and also, 808 00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:20,460 the Supreme Court is the same thing. I don't see how Crump is 809 00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:21,690 any different Can I ask 810 00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:25,740 Adam Curry: you is that Crump with a que? Si? Oh, it's with a 811 00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:29,250 C? Alright. I think K is funnier. Crump. 812 00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:33,810 John C Dvorak: Yeah, but it's C in my mind. Okay. Crump Crump, 813 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,210 is encrypt, you know, like Crump. 814 00:48:36,270 --> 00:48:39,120 Adam Curry: Now what is the process to remove a Supreme 815 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,260 Court justice? 816 00:48:42,090 --> 00:48:44,220 John C Dvorak: Yes, you get impeached, I think, yeah, well, 817 00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:47,940 who can do that? I think the Congress can but that'll be the 818 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:49,170 day. Good luck with that. 819 00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:52,470 Adam Curry: Good luck with that. So John Grisham but I didn't 820 00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:59,310 know he was a lefty. The author John Grisham, but maybe he's not 821 00:48:59,310 --> 00:49:04,320 but he went on the, on the view, I hate to do it because 822 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,660 John C Dvorak: but it's he said, It's okay to get you're gonna 823 00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:08,160 play another view clip. 824 00:49:08,190 --> 00:49:10,890 Adam Curry: I know. But it's really John Grisham is not about 825 00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:14,790 the view. It's just John Grisham. And then the views 826 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:18,510 apologizing for what he said was really quite interesting this 827 00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:21,450 Unknown: well, when you read my history, you better be careful 828 00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:24,330 because I'm not really noted for accuracy. 829 00:49:29,310 --> 00:49:31,860 imitating life really, I think is what you're juggling. But 830 00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:35,400 life right now in the courtroom is getting a little scary. I 831 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,220 mean, let's take the supreme court right now. A lot of people 832 00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:41,070 have issues with them there. There's some scandals plaguing 833 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:43,650 the Supreme Court. Do you have any thoughts on that? And you 834 00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:46,050 already write a book or ever make a movie out of that? 835 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,940 I wrote a great book called The Pelican Brief. 836 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,370 In which two Supreme Court justices were assassinated. Yes. 837 00:49:59,490 --> 00:50:00,780 And I thought it But doing it again? 838 00:50:02,070 --> 00:50:03,330 No, no, no, no. The 839 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,700 writing part two, 840 00:50:05,730 --> 00:50:07,140 he's talking about writing. 841 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,700 Adam Curry: Fiction. How about that? I mean, he said that with 842 00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:16,320 a straight face. That was a line he practiced. I'm thinking about 843 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,940 doing it again. There really threatening Supreme Court 844 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:23,400 justice. Oh, no. He's just like they should buy movie a book. 845 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,240 It's books all 846 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,510 Unknown: fit. It's all fictional. It's just fiction. 847 00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:30,750 It's made up stories court has never looked this bad. 848 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:34,290 John C Dvorak: Court has never looked this bad. What's he 849 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:35,850 talking about? They look fine. 850 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,060 Adam Curry: They look actually pretty handsome and cute. He 851 00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:40,350 hears the rest of the clip now 852 00:50:40,350 --> 00:50:45,150 Unknown: in my lifetime. The some of the rulings the ethical 853 00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:51,600 challenges. The the Erica went downhill in 2000 when five 854 00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:56,190 Republicans on the court chose to elect the president. Oh, yes. 855 00:50:56,190 --> 00:51:00,420 Most political Bush versus gore. Yeah. And that's that's when it 856 00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:03,810 all started really going down. I agree with Bob before decision, 857 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,320 and the court has its gets gets worse every term. 858 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:12,540 John C Dvorak: You know, I should remind everybody that the 859 00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:22,770 Miami Herald went through all the ballots and hanging chads 860 00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:27,270 and all the rest of it. And they determined that Bush won Florida 861 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:27,630 what he 862 00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:30,690 Adam Curry: just did there he he is an election denier. 863 00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:35,940 John C Dvorak: Well, let's get to the super clip I have then I 864 00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:37,500 have an objection to the electoral votes. 865 00:51:37,530 --> 00:51:40,140 Unknown: The objection is in writing. And I don't care that 866 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,810 it is not it is not signed by a member of the Senate. 867 00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:47,730 There are still legitimate concerns over the integrity of 868 00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:52,290 our elections, and of ensuring the principle of one person one 869 00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:57,570 vote, but constantly shifting vote, tallies in Ohio, and 870 00:51:57,570 --> 00:52:02,490 malfunctioning Athlon electronic machines, which may not have 871 00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:06,270 paper receipts have led to additional loss of confidence by 872 00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:10,650 the public. This is their only opportunity to have this debate 873 00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:15,330 while the country is listening. And it is appropriate to do so 874 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,080 but objected 875 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,170 to the counting of electoral votes of the state of Ohio. 876 00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:23,430 I agree with 10s of millions of Americans who are very worried 877 00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:28,050 that when they cast the ballot on an electronic voting machine, 878 00:52:28,290 --> 00:52:33,600 that there is no paper trail to report trail that vote because 879 00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:38,310 10 of the 29 electoral votes cast by Florida were cast by 880 00:52:38,310 --> 00:52:40,260 electors not lawfully certified 881 00:52:40,590 --> 00:52:40,860 Adam Curry: is 882 00:52:40,860 --> 00:52:43,800 Unknown: the objection in writing and signed not only by 883 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,920 the members of the House represented but also by Senate 884 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,810 is in writing. Mr. 885 00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,120 President, I object to this certificate from the state of 886 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,170 Georgia on the grounds that the electoral vote objective 887 00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:58,110 certificate from the state of North Carolina 888 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,710 I object because people are horrified. I object 889 00:53:01,890 --> 00:53:04,230 object to the certificate from the state of Alabama, 890 00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:07,290 to 15 volts from the state of North Carolina because of the 891 00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:11,070 massive voter suppression. I do not wish to debate. I wish to 892 00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:15,300 ask is there one United States senator who will join me in this 893 00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:19,620 letter? If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia baseball, it it's 894 00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:22,710 clear. It's clear, Claire, I would say say that publicly. 895 00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:26,610 It's clear. It's votes remain to be counted. There are voices 896 00:53:26,610 --> 00:53:30,240 that were waiting to be heard. And I will not concede back then 897 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,370 I respect where you're coming from. And I respect that the the 898 00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:33,930 issues that you're raising, you're not answering the 899 00:53:33,930 --> 00:53:38,670 question. Do you think you're not using the word legitimate? 900 00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:43,080 You can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee. 901 00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:46,350 And you can have the election stolen from you. 902 00:53:46,530 --> 00:53:48,570 He knows he's an illegitimate president. 903 00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:53,940 Adam Curry: Yeah, baby supercut. Nice. Yeah. What led you down? 904 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:55,080 That path was beautiful. 905 00:53:56,490 --> 00:53:58,110 John C Dvorak: But you do good work? Yes. 906 00:53:58,590 --> 00:54:02,820 Adam Curry: We had a runoff election here. And a couple 907 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:06,000 things that went down. We had our local elections and our 908 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,340 state election Gillespie County, which is home to Fredericksburg, 909 00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:16,920 Texas. We set out on somehow some smart patriots got in there 910 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,920 and said we're doing hand count. We're not doing voting machines. 911 00:54:20,550 --> 00:54:23,790 And oh boy, we have one newspaper here comes out once a 912 00:54:23,790 --> 00:54:27,300 week. The Fredericksburg standard Radio Flyer Gazette 913 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,260 which is a very very lefty newspaper of course it's the 914 00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:35,460 newspapers actual newspaper still. And then we're running 915 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:39,900 headlines. This cost 27,000 extra dollars that we could have 916 00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:42,900 put towards something useful and 917 00:54:42,990 --> 00:54:44,820 John C Dvorak: but I guess sending all that the billions to 918 00:54:44,820 --> 00:54:47,250 Ukraine is okay by these guys. Yeah, 919 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,680 Adam Curry: we don't have a lot of Ukraine flags flying around 920 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,680 here anymore. That ended pretty quick once people caught on. 921 00:54:54,030 --> 00:54:57,840 Anyway, we got we literally have a new sheriff in town buddy is 922 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,640 out. buddies at Chris AR is an and there's going to be some 923 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,900 head cracking going on. Because he's like, oh, yeah, we're not 924 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:11,340 gonna have any, any cartel here, we have cartel here, and he's 925 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,920 gonna get rid of the cartel, he's gonna make sure that the 926 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:19,020 buses can't come up I 10 and 87 is going to be this is going to 927 00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:22,650 be the center of controversy with the new shirts like it 928 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:28,260 already. And the best part is my friend, the former police 929 00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:32,040 officer from Kerrville, with anger management issues, he's 930 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,160 going to be Lieutenant. Oh, 931 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,490 John C Dvorak: sure exactly what you want. That's where you will 932 00:55:38,490 --> 00:55:41,040 come up with anger management issues. 933 00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:42,540 Adam Curry: It'd be great. 934 00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:46,680 John C Dvorak: If you're on the wrong side of the billy club, 935 00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:47,220 now, there's 936 00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:51,390 Adam Curry: only one thing this there's still the news media 937 00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:55,770 there. I think they may be just doing this as a backup plan. 938 00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:59,940 There's all kinds of bonuses for this, of course, because of 939 00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:03,810 their own pay masters, but they're still pushing to an 940 00:56:03,810 --> 00:56:07,350 extreme degree, which is why I have to play some clips. Again, 941 00:56:07,590 --> 00:56:11,010 I'll keep doing it because we're not going to be kerfuffles like 942 00:56:11,010 --> 00:56:14,190 four years ago. It's bird flu baby. So 943 00:56:14,190 --> 00:56:16,650 Unknown: Dr. gounder, this farm worker exhibited respiratory 944 00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:19,860 systems, symptoms rather unlike the first two human cases. So 945 00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:21,090 what do we need to know about this one? 946 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,150 Adam Curry: Oh, by the way, respiratory now? Oh, it's 947 00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:30,240 respiratory. And and there's a theme here. Everyone wants to 948 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,180 know if they should be concerned? Should I be concerned 949 00:56:33,180 --> 00:56:36,660 about should I be concerned, we be concerned about this? Well, 950 00:56:36,660 --> 00:56:38,580 Unknown: what's really important here is to understand that if 951 00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:41,610 it's respiratory, it's easier to transmit onward to other people. 952 00:56:41,610 --> 00:56:44,400 So if the virus is just in the eye, that's going to be harder 953 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,170 to pass on to others, I got some virus, it's in your respiratory 954 00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:52,530 system, nothing is going to be easier to spread around. 955 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,010 So who is that most risk of getting bird flu? 956 00:56:56,430 --> 00:56:59,310 Well, the risk to the general public is still considered to be 957 00:56:59,310 --> 00:57:03,510 very low by the CDC. However, we know that farm workers are being 958 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:06,390 exposed very heavily. And so if somebody is a farm worker, 959 00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:08,970 especially if they're working with dairy cows, they are at 960 00:57:08,970 --> 00:57:10,770 risk for h five and one bird flu. 961 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:13,200 Adam Curry: I mean, what does it even mean? They are at risk very 962 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,830 heavily. How many risk very I'm gonna risk very heavily crossing 963 00:57:16,830 --> 00:57:21,210 the street. Now, I said that, you know, there's multiple 964 00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:22,950 reasons why they're doing this. Here's one, 965 00:57:23,370 --> 00:57:26,550 Unknown: also infocus shares of Maderna, after the Financial 966 00:57:26,550 --> 00:57:29,640 Times reported, the US government is nearing an 967 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,930 agreement to fund the biotech firms bird vaccine trial. Will 968 00:57:33,930 --> 00:57:37,920 during the chairs climb 3% In premarket trading. Yeah, 969 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,880 Adam Curry: baby. Yeah, we got some we got some medical stuff 970 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,210 going on. This is good. Yeah, we get some funding some funding. 971 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,190 Let's continue with Dr. Celine, 972 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:49,590 Unknown: what are your concerns? What are you thinking about? 973 00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:52,680 Adam Curry: What what are your concerns? Not my concern? Should 974 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,360 we be concerned? What's your concern? 975 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:57,060 Unknown: What are your concerns? What are you thinking about in 976 00:57:57,060 --> 00:58:00,150 terms of preventing a larger outbreak? Well, what we're 977 00:58:00,150 --> 00:58:02,490 really concerned about, there's not nearly enough testing, 978 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,580 there's not enough testing of the there's not enough testing. 979 00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:09,840 There's not enough testing of the milk. And so if you're not 980 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,110 testing, really kind of flying blind, we don't know what we're 981 00:58:13,110 --> 00:58:15,330 dealing with. And there are a lot of questions that remain 982 00:58:15,330 --> 00:58:19,350 unanswered. Most importantly, how is the virus mutating? Is it 983 00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:23,070 adapting to humans and other mammals? And is it adapting in 984 00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:26,040 the direction where it could spread from human to human? And 985 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,460 if it does, that's when you end up with an epidemic or pandemic. 986 00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:32,760 So we really need to be keeping a finger on the pulse so to 987 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,710 speak, and we're not doing that right now. So 988 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:37,260 Adam Curry: what it sounds like to me is, besides serving their 989 00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:41,160 pharma overlords, they are gearing up for a possible 990 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,760 nailing vote. I mean, that that's what we're going to see 991 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,630 States taking this measure, I'm sure of it. Well, you know, 992 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:52,410 first of all, we got to start masking. Stop masking, because, 993 00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:56,100 you know, it could be could mutate. And I mean, the term is 994 00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:59,670 supposed to be jumped from species to species, which was 995 00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:05,310 never proven with COVID. They tried pangolin, bat, etc. dog, 996 00:59:05,310 --> 00:59:09,270 cat, dog, cat. The cats are the cats or dogs. Oh, your cat's 997 00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:14,010 gonna get it. Now, now they take it in back to the farmer 998 00:59:14,010 --> 00:59:14,640 overlords. 999 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,490 Unknown: So we need to keep pointing out that this was 1000 00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:21,630 cattle to human but there has not yet been a case of human to 1001 00:59:21,630 --> 00:59:22,620 human tonight. 1002 00:59:22,620 --> 00:59:24,000 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's coming. But 1003 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,000 Adam Curry: is that something you're concerned about? Worry 1004 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,720 about? Well, that's 1005 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,730 Unknown: an important distinction. So yeah, so far, 1006 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,150 all the cases have been cow or some other animals. And 1007 00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:36,750 historically speaking, we are not aware of any human to human 1008 00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:40,440 cases ever having occurred. But that is roughly how you get the 1009 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,740 next epidemic or pandemic is if the virus mutates adapts to 1010 00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,040 humans where it can spread human to human. And if that's 1011 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,030 John C Dvorak: what I'm sorry, h five n one's been around for 1012 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:57,450 what 2030 4050 years it's been around forever read from that 1013 00:59:57,450 --> 01:00:00,840 why all of a sudden will it spread and let's take Create a 1014 01:00:00,870 --> 01:00:06,120 versions in a lab to make and spread. And if 1015 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,150 Unknown: that were to happen, do we have the capacity to 1016 01:00:09,150 --> 01:00:12,150 manufacture vaccines to combat that? This 1017 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:17,190 is a big concern because manufacturing pigs, bird flu, 1018 01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:20,040 Adam Curry: Oh, I love this. I love this. This is this is how 1019 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,560 we bring in Maderna. This is okay be concerned and you 1020 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,690 Unknown: factor vaccines to combat that. 1021 01:00:24,930 --> 01:00:28,290 This is a big concern because our flu manufacturing is based 1022 01:00:28,290 --> 01:00:32,910 on eggs, bird flu kills birds, birds lay eggs. So your whole 1023 01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:37,200 manufacturing logic is is really in jeopardy potentially, from 1024 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,660 the very virus you're trying to combat. So we really do need to 1025 01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:43,080 develop alternatives to the egg based manufacturing. 1026 01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:45,090 Adam Curry: You know what he'll crap 1027 01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:45,570 John C Dvorak: what? 1028 01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:50,010 Adam Curry: I got more, I got more. What I remember all of a 1029 01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:55,260 sudden, when we just got funding for pod show from Kleiner 1030 01:00:55,260 --> 01:01:01,440 Perkins. They had, they had invested in something and it was 1031 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:06,510 all about creating vaccines no longer doing it in eggs, and is 1032 01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:14,400 a big deal. And I remember interviewing Dora and Ray lane 1033 01:01:14,430 --> 01:01:18,210 and on a podcast, and I hope I can find that somewhere. 1034 01:01:18,450 --> 01:01:19,920 John C Dvorak: Oh, you got to find it. 1035 01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:24,720 Adam Curry: I wonder. I wonder if it was if they were already 1036 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,560 looking at mRNA back in the day. I really am. 1037 01:01:29,070 --> 01:01:31,350 John C Dvorak: If you've been listening to a lot of the same, 1038 01:01:31,410 --> 01:01:36,180 these same sort of clips, and they've been working on em RNA 1039 01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:39,330 forever. And but they could never get past testing because 1040 01:01:39,330 --> 01:01:43,800 it kills everything. It does, and it doesn't work. And so they 1041 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,740 found that the COVID was perfect, because then you could 1042 01:01:46,860 --> 01:01:50,460 force it into the into the general population people's 1043 01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:56,100 arms. You can force it into the arms as an emergency. Yeah. And 1044 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,500 then see what happens. Because we're pretty sure that this 1045 01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:02,850 stuff is great. It works terrific. And we but we can't 1046 01:02:02,850 --> 01:02:06,660 seem to get past testing. So because it kills everything. But 1047 01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:11,760 I'm sure it works, though. Sorry. So they do what they're 1048 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,810 doing. How 1049 01:02:12,810 --> 01:02:16,200 Unknown: are eggs used in the creation of vaccines with 1050 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,250 Adam Curry: really, really have you never never had science in 1051 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:21,060 school? Okay, 1052 01:02:21,180 --> 01:02:24,510 Unknown: what's the virus in the eggs, and then you kill the 1053 01:02:24,510 --> 01:02:26,850 virus. And then that's one of the constituents, that's really 1054 01:02:26,850 --> 01:02:29,040 the main ingredient in your vaccines, okay, 1055 01:02:29,070 --> 01:02:32,670 and so it's so just to go back, if you have an allergy to eggs, 1056 01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:33,960 it's not a factor because, 1057 01:02:34,290 --> 01:02:36,810 as it turns out, it's not a factor because you're really 1058 01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:39,690 just growing the virus in the eggs. It's not that the eggs are 1059 01:02:39,690 --> 01:02:44,190 part of the vaccine, it's just the substrate for the the, the 1060 01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:46,050 food really for the virus to be growing. 1061 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:50,220 So I can see why scientists would be concerned. Now we're 1062 01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:52,920 not dealing with an outbreak of the bird flu in the human 1063 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,880 population. But viruses evolve and we want to be caught flat 1064 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,700 footed again, no, again, we're killing all of 1065 01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:04,590 these birds will remember bird flu is deadly to birds, birds 1066 01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:08,610 also lay eggs, which are one of your main tools really to 1067 01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:12,540 produce the virus that you put in the vaccine. Yeah. And so if 1068 01:03:12,540 --> 01:03:15,810 you having to kill birds that are laying the eggs, you're 1069 01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:19,290 really in a difficult situation, you know, these barriers are 1070 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,260 laying the eggs that we're using for the vaccines. Those are a 1071 01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:25,470 very precious commodity. But if they are endangered by the very 1072 01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:29,040 virus we're hoping to, you're kind of in this very difficult 1073 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:29,520 position. 1074 01:03:29,550 --> 01:03:32,580 Adam Curry: Now that what is the solution, John? I mean, is there 1075 01:03:32,580 --> 01:03:35,790 an alternative to making vaccines without eggs? Can you 1076 01:03:35,790 --> 01:03:39,300 think of anything? Because clearly, you're an idiot CBS 1077 01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:44,880 person, then just leading the witness? This is so weird, what 1078 01:03:44,970 --> 01:03:46,080 are their alternatives? 1079 01:03:46,110 --> 01:03:48,660 Unknown: And so there must be scientists working on 1080 01:03:48,660 --> 01:03:50,970 alternatives, though, are there alternatives out there? 1081 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,360 There are alternatives remember, mRNA vaccines from COVID. 1082 01:03:54,690 --> 01:03:59,460 Remember, remembering flu vaccines, even combination flu 1083 01:03:59,460 --> 01:04:02,580 and COVID vaccines, there are other types of cells that are 1084 01:04:02,580 --> 01:04:07,530 not eggs. So you have mammalian cells, you have insect cells and 1085 01:04:07,530 --> 01:04:11,940 back that we can grow virus in. But these are just not as far 1086 01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:16,770 advanced as far developed as the egg based manufacturing. Right. 1087 01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:20,040 Adam Curry: Right. Right. But I'm so glad you brought that up. 1088 01:04:20,130 --> 01:04:24,090 Because we have all kinds of great bird flu vaccines 1089 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,040 Unknown: and health check. Penn Medicine says it's created a 1090 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,550 human bird flu vaccine on the same platform as its COVID-19 1091 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,250 form the experimental and one of the Just Say 1092 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,250 Adam Curry: operating system, that'd be funnier opera, the 1093 01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:38,490 same operating system is mRNA. For basically it 1094 01:04:38,790 --> 01:04:41,850 Unknown: was seen on the same platform as its COVID 19 1095 01:04:41,850 --> 01:04:46,200 vaccine. The experimental mRNA vaccine protected lab animals 1096 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,380 from severe illness and death for at least a year. In fact, 1097 01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:52,020 all the vaccinated animals survived infections while all 1098 01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:57,510 the unvaccinated ones died. Early infects humans, but 1099 01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:59,970 there's been heightened concern about a current outbreak 1100 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,020 circulating in birds and cattle in the US. Yeah, 1101 01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:06,510 Adam Curry: the heightened concerns more concern. There's 1102 01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:07,470 so much concern. 1103 01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:09,390 John C Dvorak: Instead of a platform, they should call it a 1104 01:05:09,390 --> 01:05:10,110 bus. 1105 01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:15,060 Adam Curry: A bus. Let's go to North Carolina and we 1106 01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:19,350 Unknown: were built to provide on soil pandemic response for 1107 01:05:19,350 --> 01:05:20,700 influenza vaccines, 1108 01:05:20,730 --> 01:05:24,360 CSL secure us with a site in Holly Springs that makes over 55 1109 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,110 million doses of flu shots a year. Those go out across the US 1110 01:05:28,110 --> 01:05:28,830 and Europe. 1111 01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:31,650 And they'll get distributed from August and throughout the winter 1112 01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:32,190 seasons. 1113 01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:36,750 Now they're adding bird flu vaccines of 4.8 million doses as 1114 01:05:36,750 --> 01:05:39,540 part of an ongoing contract with the US government. What 1115 01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:43,170 we will do is we'll take the antigen that was manufactured 1116 01:05:43,350 --> 01:05:46,710 will convert that into finished doses and we'll make that 1117 01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:50,040 readily available to be distributed at the direction of 1118 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,210 the US government. Have you 1119 01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:53,940 Adam Curry: ever heard of triangle pharmaceuticals? 1120 01:05:55,380 --> 01:05:59,250 John C Dvorak: No, but you better tell them you got it made 1121 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,040 Adam Curry: you better tell Horowitz. So I think there are 1122 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,340 people in the background going like hey, we missed out on that 1123 01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:08,280 first time that moderna and Pfizer stuff, man, we got to get 1124 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,450 on the stick here. Who do you know, Bill, Bill? I got a buddy 1125 01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:15,900 over a triangle North Carolina. Good. We'll give them the 1126 01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:20,610 contract. 4.8 million vaccines at it beautiful. ABC for the 1127 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,850 Unknown: third human case of bird flu here in the US has been 1128 01:06:23,850 --> 01:06:27,630 confirmed in Michigan all three were exposed to infected dairy 1129 01:06:27,630 --> 01:06:31,740 cows on different farms to in Michigan. One in Texas, the CDC 1130 01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:34,950 says the risk to the public remains low, but it is 1131 01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:35,760 stockpiling. 1132 01:06:36,750 --> 01:06:40,050 John C Dvorak: Anyway, what I said but we'll talk about it 1133 01:06:40,050 --> 01:06:40,500 anyway. 1134 01:06:40,530 --> 01:06:42,510 Adam Curry: Well, there's a reason for it. One in Texas, 1135 01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:46,110 Unknown: the CDC says the risk to the public remains low. But 1136 01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:50,520 it is stockpiling the current bird flu vaccine and a new mRNA 1137 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,550 vaccine is now in the works. Yay. 1138 01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:57,570 Adam Curry: Yay. Yay. Get ready. Roll up your sleeves. Let's go 1139 01:06:57,570 --> 01:07:01,230 for two more clips for do America's favorite doctor. on 1140 01:07:01,230 --> 01:07:03,660 ABC. Good Morning America. Dr. Jenn now 1141 01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:05,910 Unknown: a doctor again talking about how the CDC has confirmed 1142 01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:09,000 the second case of human age five birds flew in Michigan, 1143 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,110 should we be concerned? 1144 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,850 That's the cost should we be concerned? 1145 01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:16,830 John C Dvorak: Should we be concerned it's funny, but get a 1146 01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:20,070 sample for a second. The Michigan case I think was the 1147 01:07:20,070 --> 01:07:22,380 last case there were two in Texas and one in Michigan but 1148 01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:26,520 they keep mixing up where the cases where three A's? Yes, they 1149 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,150 do they do and how is Oh, it's so hard to know the difference 1150 01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:31,920 between two and three. 1151 01:07:32,190 --> 01:07:34,620 Adam Curry: It's confusing, and I'm concerned now 1152 01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:36,900 Unknown: with Dr. Jen talking about how the CDC has confirmed 1153 01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:40,530 the second case of human h5 bird flu and Michigan should we be 1154 01:07:40,530 --> 01:07:41,130 concerned? 1155 01:07:41,310 --> 01:07:44,250 That's the question. Well, listen, I think anyone who 1156 01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:45,510 remembers just 1157 01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:53,100 Adam Curry: listen, listen, listen. You know what, think 1158 01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:57,030 about it. Anyone who lived through COVID will remember you 1159 01:07:57,030 --> 01:07:58,230 should be concerned. 1160 01:07:58,260 --> 01:08:01,110 Unknown: That's the question. Well, listen, I think anyone who 1161 01:08:01,110 --> 01:08:05,520 remembers back just four years to 2020 really should be 1162 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,760 answering. Of course, we should be paying attention to this. 1163 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,520 There's a big difference between being vigilant and paying 1164 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:15,870 attention and panicking unnecessarily right now, right? 1165 01:08:15,870 --> 01:08:18,480 We've learned that we have to pay attention to these reading 1166 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:22,050 infectious diseases, viruses mutate for a living. This has 1167 01:08:22,050 --> 01:08:25,980 been occurring now for several years infecting poultry. Now 1168 01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:31,170 dairy cattle. Anytime we see a virus that does change in a 1169 01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:35,040 normal course of the viral lifespan, and it goes from one 1170 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,760 species to another, we have got to pay attention. Now. This is 1171 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,390 the third us case the second confirmed case in Michigan, the 1172 01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:45,240 more you look for something in medicine, what 1173 01:08:48,300 --> 01:08:51,030 John C Dvorak: he says to she says three and now she says 1174 01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:53,280 there's two in Michigan, I thought it was two in Texas and 1175 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,990 one in Michigan. But 1176 01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:56,640 Adam Curry: you know what? It doesn't matter as long as you're 1177 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,480 concerned. Pay 1178 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,109 Unknown: attention. Now. This is the third us case confirmed case 1179 01:09:01,109 --> 01:09:03,779 in Michigan. The more you look for something in medicine and 1180 01:09:03,779 --> 01:09:06,719 public health, the more you will find it. This person does have 1181 01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:09,989 respiratory symptoms, but he's been treated and managed and 1182 01:09:10,019 --> 01:09:14,729 isolating. You had a cough at home, not hospitalized. But 1183 01:09:14,729 --> 01:09:18,659 again, I think we cannot put our heads in the sand. The CDC is 1184 01:09:18,659 --> 01:09:22,229 not doing that the FDA is not doing that. And the USDA is not 1185 01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:23,219 doing that. Nor is 1186 01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:27,060 Adam Curry: the world nor is the world or to help world horse 1187 01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:28,260 organization important 1188 01:09:28,260 --> 01:09:30,510 Unknown: to point out these were farm workers who had direct 1189 01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:34,740 contact as gross cows. But there is reason to be hopeful or for 1190 01:09:34,740 --> 01:09:35,970 comfort here and 1191 01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:38,910 listen, we've been in touch with very high level officials from 1192 01:09:38,910 --> 01:09:42,270 the CDC. spoken to the CDC director about this she was a 1193 01:09:42,270 --> 01:09:45,660 guest on GMA three, she said the following number one we have a 1194 01:09:45,660 --> 01:09:48,510 treatment we have an antiviral medication that's effective 1195 01:09:48,540 --> 01:09:52,200 against this strain of bird flu number two, it has not shown any 1196 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,380 mutation yet. Number three we have a vaccine in the national 1197 01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:55,620 stuff. 1198 01:09:55,620 --> 01:09:59,220 Adam Curry: Wait a minute, no mutation but but wait a minute, 1199 01:09:59,250 --> 01:10:01,110 you're telling first You're telling me that it went from 1200 01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:05,400 chickens to cows, but there's no mutation yet? Shouldn't this be 1201 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:10,050 cow flu? Actually think about it. I mean, that seems odd. 1202 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,470 John C Dvorak: This story is not well, well structured and 1203 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,740 Unknown: effective against this strain of bird flu. Number two, 1204 01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:19,710 it has not shown any mutation yet. Number three, we have a 1205 01:10:19,710 --> 01:10:22,710 vaccine in the national stockpile and the ability to 1206 01:10:22,710 --> 01:10:26,460 ramp that up very quickly if need be right now, the overall 1207 01:10:26,460 --> 01:10:29,610 risk to the general population remains low. 1208 01:10:32,220 --> 01:10:38,400 Adam Curry: We are good to but But Dr. Jen has added another 1209 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,630 agenda, which was not really surprising, because we've 1210 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:47,670 already had the mailing ballot. We have, you know, 1211 01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:52,260 pharmaceutical overlords ramping up government contracts, and 1212 01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:53,700 there's another one now let's talk 1213 01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:56,040 Unknown: to America's favorite doctor when making medical 1214 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,560 headlines, authorities have detected the presence of bird 1215 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,880 flu at a farm in Iowa, more than 4 million chickens should we be 1216 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,540 concerned? 1217 01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:10,350 Okay, here's the latest from the USDA. And again, we've been in 1218 01:11:10,350 --> 01:11:11,520 close contact with 1219 01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:14,490 Adam Curry: there must be a memo that 1220 01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:17,100 John C Dvorak: says yes, something's gotta be up and then 1221 01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:20,280 saying should we be concerned it's got to be in that memo as a 1222 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,220 talking point has to because everybody's saying the exact 1223 01:11:23,220 --> 01:11:24,600 same thing. Okay, 1224 01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:27,450 Unknown: here's the latest from the USDA. And again, we've been 1225 01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:31,860 in close contact with the CDC on this, they are testing more 1226 01:11:31,890 --> 01:11:34,890 that's why you're seeing it more there's no surprise here. 1227 01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:39,630 Adam Curry: The exactly the more you spin up here your bogus PCR 1228 01:11:39,630 --> 01:11:42,900 cycles and you're testing more the more you're gonna see you 1229 01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:46,860 could test for HIV and get it from from cows come on people we 1230 01:11:46,860 --> 01:11:48,030 know this is bunk, 1231 01:11:48,030 --> 01:11:50,970 Unknown: but the latest is infected poultry entering the 1232 01:11:50,970 --> 01:11:54,210 food chain in this country the risk is sought to 1233 01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:57,870 Adam Curry: be extremely low that entering the food chain 1234 01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,140 Unknown: according to the USDA. All poultry products are 1235 01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:05,370 inspected rigorously and they were before this outbreak for 1236 01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:10,050 signs of disease. Bird Flu avian influenza is not I repeat is not 1237 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,250 transmissible by eating foods including poultry that have been 1238 01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:17,670 properly prepared properly cooked so you want to make sure 1239 01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:20,340 you're not cross contaminating you want to cook according to 1240 01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:24,600 regular appropriate temperatures and eggs because we've been 1241 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,280 tracking this as well have to be thoroughly cooked. The yolks are 1242 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,500 first overeasy no overeasy 1243 01:12:33,060 --> 01:12:38,700 John C Dvorak: please x.com 20 x.com 1244 01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:39,450 Adam Curry: too 1245 01:12:39,450 --> 01:12:41,250 John C Dvorak: many eggs that comes with me me says you know I 1246 01:12:41,250 --> 01:12:43,020 do all this work. You guys never plugged 1247 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,290 Adam Curry: in. You can't do them over easy. rip those pages 1248 01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:50,340 out of your book. Too many eggs.com Rip the pages out of 1249 01:12:50,340 --> 01:12:54,060 that book. You could die if you if you have eggs 1250 01:12:54,060 --> 01:12:56,400 John C Dvorak: that are over not to mention sunnyside up 1251 01:12:57,150 --> 01:13:00,960 Unknown: until the yolks are first overeasy no overeasy. And 1252 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:01,620 when you're talking about the 1253 01:13:03,090 --> 01:13:05,430 Adam Curry: way if you wait, wait for it gets better. 1254 01:13:05,580 --> 01:13:08,490 Unknown: No raw or unpasteurized milk, 1255 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:13,950 Adam Curry: no raw milk. no milk, no raw milk. 1256 01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:16,530 Unknown: That should have been the case before abs. So bottom 1257 01:13:16,530 --> 01:13:19,140 line if people want to avoid this altogether. Did 1258 01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:23,580 John C Dvorak: you hit Do you hear that? Right? She said that 1259 01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:27,990 should have been the case before? Because they're not in 1260 01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:31,140 words. Hey, we don't like the idea of anyone having raw milk. 1261 01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:34,560 So that should always be the case. By the way, be it even if 1262 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,620 there's no avian flu, it's drinking sewage. 1263 01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:39,600 Adam Curry: Wait, there's more. 1264 01:13:39,630 --> 01:13:42,780 Unknown: And when you're talking about the dairy supply, no raw 1265 01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:46,200 or unpasteurized milk. That should have been the case before 1266 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,990 avian. So bottom line if people want to avoid this altogether, 1267 01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:52,050 what's the choice? Well, look, again, we have to emphasize what 1268 01:13:52,050 --> 01:13:55,260 the science and the facts say right now there is no evidence 1269 01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:58,740 that this is a virus that can be transmitted via eating properly 1270 01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:02,970 cooked food, or drinking properly pasteurized milk. But 1271 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,450 obviously the options always need to be stated for people who 1272 01:14:06,450 --> 01:14:10,740 are concerned plant based better for the environment and probably 1273 01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:12,840 will save you some money as well. At least temporarily. It's 1274 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:13,380 a good way to try it. 1275 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,830 Adam Curry: Yes, but she come comes in with the vegan angle. 1276 01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:22,890 John C Dvorak: Holy mackerel that's clipping today. 1277 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,350 Adam Curry: Thank you. I figured we could go to the clip 1278 01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:26,460 custodian clip. 1279 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,230 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there was clearings in the vegan angle at 1280 01:14:31,230 --> 01:14:33,930 the end. You don't want to get muddy and make sure when you can 1281 01:14:33,930 --> 01:14:37,530 you imagine having a fried egg with the heart is hell yolk. 1282 01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:39,240 Then what's the point? 1283 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,420 Adam Curry: My mom used to she she had a problem with a runny 1284 01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:45,330 egg yolk she'd always we go to a diner I remember it so I was 1285 01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:49,080 like, Can you kill my eggs? I want them killed. Hard burned, 1286 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,660 burned all the way down. No yoke 1287 01:14:52,410 --> 01:14:54,930 John C Dvorak: that we put ketchup on it make scrambled 1288 01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:57,300 eggs then it's fine doll but you 1289 01:14:57,300 --> 01:14:59,820 Adam Curry: can't have them too fluffy. Gotta have them hard. 1290 01:15:01,020 --> 01:15:04,260 overcooked and dry. And don't you dare put any raw milk in 1291 01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:07,710 there. Ah. Now here's the crazy thing by 1292 01:15:07,710 --> 01:15:09,360 John C Dvorak: the way, if there was some evidence that somebody 1293 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,680 got bird flu from raw milk or our overeasy egg where is it 1294 01:15:13,710 --> 01:15:16,380 that there's no evidence? Course not. 1295 01:15:16,410 --> 01:15:18,960 Adam Curry: I have another. This is the testing industrial 1296 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,610 complex also from ABC 1297 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,760 Unknown: tonight scientists are ramping up vaccine testing to 1298 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,090 prevent bird flu transmission between cows and people. 1299 01:15:28,530 --> 01:15:37,020 Adam Curry: stop barking your cows. Hi. I'm so saddened by 1300 01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:37,830 this as the 1301 01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:43,170 Unknown: CDC confirms a third rare human case in the US rare. 1302 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,560 Adam Curry: This is not so rare people get bird flu all the time 1303 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:47,970 when they're around birds, 1304 01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:51,750 Unknown: a cow likely infecting a Michigan dairy worker. Now the 1305 01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:54,600 first thing what was he doing show respiratory symptoms like 1306 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,380 coughing was he kissing the cow that patient now on an antiviral 1307 01:15:58,380 --> 01:16:01,890 medication and recovering at home. The previous two cases 1308 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,190 showed symptoms like pinkeye federal health authorities 1309 01:16:05,190 --> 01:16:08,520 investing millions to limit the spread among livestock. 1310 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,920 Adam Curry: You can go to schools and find pinkeye Come on 1311 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,270 people, the USDA 1312 01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:17,490 Unknown: announcing an additional 800 million in 1313 01:16:17,490 --> 01:16:20,370 emergency for testing $800 1314 01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:20,880 Adam Curry: million. 1315 01:16:23,460 --> 01:16:27,750 Unknown: For testing my potholes virus surveillance developing 1316 01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:32,160 bird flu vaccine for livestock and food safety studies. Federal 1317 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,550 officials still requiring testing before cattle cross 1318 01:16:35,550 --> 01:16:40,860 state lines, the USDA confirming 68 outbreaks and dairy cow herds 1319 01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:43,590 across at least nine states since March 1320 01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:47,460 Adam Curry: outbreaks. Notice the terminology people the USDA 1321 01:16:47,460 --> 01:16:47,760 says 1322 01:16:47,790 --> 01:16:50,130 Unknown: ultimately we want to eliminate the virus and 1323 01:16:50,130 --> 01:16:53,880 developing a vaccine to prevent another emergence of h five and 1324 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,630 one in cattle will be an important step toward that end. 1325 01:16:57,660 --> 01:17:01,110 Adam Curry: This is a pipe dream. As you pointed out, Bert 1326 01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:01,950 h five 1327 01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:05,760 John C Dvorak: h five and one has been around 1328 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,050 Adam Curry: for decades. For decades. Now all of a sudden, 1329 01:17:10,050 --> 01:17:13,170 whoa, whoa, no gotta develop a vaccine because it's a bonanza. 1330 01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:16,230 And this free money people free money. But that 1331 01:17:16,230 --> 01:17:19,080 Unknown: step in humans is likely still far off. 1332 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,310 Ultimately, if we reduce the virus amounts in livestock, it's 1333 01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:28,560 going to reduce the chance that this virus has for jumping into 1334 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,070 humans. Well, there is no science to suggest that bird flu 1335 01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:35,310 is being transmitted from human to human scientists are still 1336 01:17:35,310 --> 01:17:39,330 testing vaccines in humans, those at highest risk 1337 01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:41,730 farmworkers with exposure to livestock 1338 01:17:42,030 --> 01:17:44,730 Adam Curry: what they want, I think because they want to put 1339 01:17:44,730 --> 01:17:50,640 mRNA into our cattle. That's just not going to happen. And 1340 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,780 you once you put that mRNA into your cattle who knows who knows 1341 01:17:54,780 --> 01:17:57,870 what's going on grow another head? Well, this 1342 01:17:57,870 --> 01:17:59,430 John C Dvorak: is reminding I have a clip 1343 01:17:59,430 --> 01:18:01,620 Adam Curry: I played this one last one from Sky News from 1344 01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:03,270 Australia. They'll say 1345 01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:05,490 John C Dvorak: Oh say they have cows. They have cows dander. 1346 01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:09,480 Adam Curry: I'm reliably informed. They also have a 1347 01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:13,470 different strain of the bird flu Victorian 1348 01:18:13,470 --> 01:18:16,290 Unknown: child has confirmed the first human case of a rare and 1349 01:18:16,290 --> 01:18:20,100 dangerous bird flu in Australia. As Minnie Becker explains an egg 1350 01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:23,520 farm Victoria detected a different strain of the virus is 1351 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,840 now in quarantine. 1352 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,030 Adam Curry: Oh 1353 01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:30,720 Unknown: CSIRO has confirmed the strain of bird flu to be the 1354 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,590 haich seven and seven which is different to the current global 1355 01:18:34,590 --> 01:18:36,900 outbreak. It's understood global 1356 01:18:36,930 --> 01:18:37,980 Adam Curry: outbreak, 1357 01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:39,000 John C Dvorak: but global 1358 01:18:39,570 --> 01:18:43,770 Adam Curry: global outbreak. And now we have h seven and seven 1359 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:48,450 we're getting close to the h h semonin. Nine or H nine and one 1360 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:50,670 means a lot of H's and NS will outbreak 1361 01:18:50,670 --> 01:18:54,360 Unknown: it's understood around 400,000 chickens have had to be 1362 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,350 put down after bird flu was detected in an egg farm knee 1363 01:18:58,350 --> 01:19:02,190 Meredith in the west of Victoria specialist teams have been seen 1364 01:19:02,190 --> 01:19:05,760 at that property dressed in hazmat suits conducting more 1365 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,550 testing there. There is of course strict quarantine 1366 01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:12,210 measures in place around that property and in other farms in 1367 01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:15,990 the area as there is a high possibility it may have already 1368 01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:19,740 spread but experts say the risk to the public remains low. 1369 01:19:19,890 --> 01:19:23,820 This is not the type of avian influenza, which is a risk to 1370 01:19:23,820 --> 01:19:26,100 humans is very, very, very small. 1371 01:19:27,150 --> 01:19:31,410 Very few cases globally. But therefore it's totally safe to 1372 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:35,130 consume eggs and carry on eating poultry as long as it's properly 1373 01:19:35,130 --> 01:19:36,270 cooked. Department 1374 01:19:36,270 --> 01:19:39,810 of Health overreaching with agriculture Victoria but in a 1375 01:19:39,810 --> 01:19:44,370 completely separate case and a separate strain. A confirmation 1376 01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:49,410 of a human case of bird flu has come through it's understood a 1377 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:53,790 child who was traveling in India managed to catch the infection 1378 01:19:54,030 --> 01:19:57,390 and they traveled back here to Melbourne in March. It's 1379 01:19:57,390 --> 01:20:00,900 understood they suffered a severe infection but have made a 1380 01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:04,950 full recovery it's not believed that that virus has spread to 1381 01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:08,700 any one else but authorities are on alert. 1382 01:20:08,730 --> 01:20:10,980 Adam Curry: How about this? They just want to get rid of chicken. 1383 01:20:11,010 --> 01:20:14,730 It's cheap. This readily available chickens. It's the one 1384 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:20,670 I need this on on a button now. How long ago was 1385 01:20:20,670 --> 01:20:23,730 John C Dvorak: a Weymouth? He brought it from India and 1386 01:20:23,730 --> 01:20:27,480 infected the chickens in Australia? Yeah, why don't they? 1387 01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:30,570 How can we get any no reports from India about anything going 1388 01:20:30,570 --> 01:20:33,930 on like this? War 1389 01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:48,810 Adam Curry: the first time we played that was 2012 years ago, 1390 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,190 the war, the war is 1391 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,980 John C Dvorak: a longer war than they have ganas than war. Was 1392 01:20:55,980 --> 01:20:58,800 something is screwy going on because of this report that I 1393 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,660 got from PBS. Okay, 1394 01:21:00,690 --> 01:21:04,800 Adam Curry: let me see. Where am I looking at here? COVID. Oh, 1395 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,920 all right. I'm sorry. What? Wait, I 1396 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,040 John C Dvorak: got to set this up. And it's only part of the 1397 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:16,320 dislike went on for 10 minutes. I have not absolutely sure what 1398 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,780 they're doing. They're trying to get people back on the mask. 1399 01:21:19,170 --> 01:21:22,020 Yeah, I still see people floating around the masks. I'm 1400 01:21:22,020 --> 01:21:25,710 going What is wrong with you? So they've got so they brought on a 1401 01:21:25,710 --> 01:21:31,020 bunch of people with handicapped people. Oh boy. But it was like, 1402 01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:35,520 you know, somebody's got some sort of skin conditions. There 1403 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,730 was a cerebral palsy guy and they went after the other. 1404 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,290 Adam Curry: You have cerebral palsy guy. Look at my cerebral 1405 01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:44,430 John C Dvorak: palsy. Cape. 1406 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,740 Adam Curry: Is he a superhero cerebral palsy guy. 1407 01:21:46,770 --> 01:21:52,230 John C Dvorak: Well, one person after another. They brought on I 1408 01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:54,510 don't know where they dug them up or how they found it. But 1409 01:21:54,540 --> 01:22:02,100 each one of them are shut ins. Because as of 2024, they are 1410 01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:06,660 afraid to go outside because they see the possibility they if 1411 01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:10,140 they get COVID Even though COVID is gone, they're gonna die if 1412 01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:17,820 they're gonna die. And so the PBS we can lose our play there 1413 01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:21,300 and I only got part of it because it goes on and on and on 1414 01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:24,330 with every one of them pleading with everyone out there. Hey, 1415 01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:28,350 think of me. I can't get out of the house because you will wear 1416 01:22:28,350 --> 01:22:29,850 a mask. The pace 1417 01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:32,490 Unknown: of us COVID-19 fatalities has slowed 1418 01:22:32,490 --> 01:22:36,300 significantly. The nationwide death toll stands at more than 1 1419 01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:40,320 million people. With precautions like mandatory masking social 1420 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:44,400 distancing and isolation. No longer in place. It can seem as 1421 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,880 if worries about the virus are gone as well. But for many 1422 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,810 people with disabilities, the threat is still very real. We 1423 01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:54,450 asked people in the disability community to tell us about their 1424 01:22:54,450 --> 01:22:57,660 concerns about this new normal. Naomi bent 1425 01:22:57,690 --> 01:23:01,380 Adam Curry: the disability community. Yeah, 1426 01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:04,770 John C Dvorak: you know, the disability community. Can 1427 01:23:04,770 --> 01:23:07,710 Adam Curry: I get in on that with my Tourette's? Can I get 1428 01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:09,060 it? Is there any? Is there any money? 1429 01:23:10,260 --> 01:23:11,520 John C Dvorak: I don't think they got money. 1430 01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:14,550 Unknown: We asked people in the disability community to tell us 1431 01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:17,310 about their concerns about this new normal 1432 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:22,080 Naomi Ben Porath. Um, 26 years old. I live in Lowell, 1433 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,460 Massachusetts, I have pots Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia 1434 01:23:26,460 --> 01:23:29,550 Syndrome. I would say that the changes in the COVID policies 1435 01:23:29,550 --> 01:23:32,490 have definitely made me a lot more nervous to be out and 1436 01:23:32,490 --> 01:23:32,850 about. 1437 01:23:32,910 --> 01:23:38,250 My name is Ngozi Austin. I have scleroderma, which is an 1438 01:23:38,250 --> 01:23:41,160 autoimmune condition. There's just so much erasure that 1439 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,160 exists, right? Like we are not part of public spaces. We're not 1440 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,550 part of mass movement. We can't be they're not safe. 1441 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:53,250 My name is Jermaine grieves. My different disabilities are 1442 01:23:53,580 --> 01:23:57,060 cerebral palsy. That is a neurological condition that 1443 01:23:57,060 --> 01:24:01,260 affects the brain in the muscle. My second disability is Hydra 1444 01:24:01,260 --> 01:24:05,640 rhinitis. suppurativa. That is a chronic skin condition. I'm just 1445 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,960 afraid of getting sick and not being able to like, get through 1446 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:10,080 it. 1447 01:24:10,530 --> 01:24:13,470 Adam Curry: Oh, these poor people, they've been terrorized. 1448 01:24:14,460 --> 01:24:15,570 Exactly. 1449 01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:17,400 John C Dvorak: And by the way, that's the tip of the iceberg 1450 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,830 for this report. I was going to clip more but it was so 1451 01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:23,820 pathetic, but that's exactly what happened. terrorized. They 1452 01:24:23,820 --> 01:24:26,850 are. They have this in some of these conditions that go they 1453 01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:31,710 talk about our minor, and it's like, they will not go outside 1454 01:24:31,710 --> 01:24:37,470 because people aren't masked up. And it's like, what? Oh, yeah, 1455 01:24:37,470 --> 01:24:38,550 that's the calendar 1456 01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:41,370 Adam Curry: a Terrorist. Terrorist. 1457 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,890 John C Dvorak: It's terrorism. It's exactly what I was 1458 01:24:43,890 --> 01:24:47,550 thinking. This is Dave terrorized the public as best 1459 01:24:47,550 --> 01:24:49,560 they can another doing it again. Yeah. 1460 01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:52,710 Adam Curry: And lots of people fall I see people at HEB here 1461 01:24:53,040 --> 01:25:00,540 with masks, mainly Latinx I don't know why but It just seems 1462 01:25:00,540 --> 01:25:04,620 to be that they seem to be more susceptible to the terror. Yeah, 1463 01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:06,270 and I'm gonna have to So maybe 1464 01:25:06,330 --> 01:25:08,790 John C Dvorak: when I was going to be recognized by the camera, 1465 01:25:09,630 --> 01:25:10,320 well, there's that 1466 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,170 Adam Curry: possibility to wrap it up with all these all this 1467 01:25:13,170 --> 01:25:17,400 vaccine talk. You know, because of course mRNA and it was the 1468 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,580 platform, it's an operating system. Let's go to the NBC 1469 01:25:20,580 --> 01:25:26,100 Today show is a bus Yeah. And again, we're just baffled by 1470 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:27,930 this. This trend. We're 1471 01:25:27,930 --> 01:25:31,170 Unknown: back with our ongoing Heart Health Series with a new 1472 01:25:31,170 --> 01:25:33,300 way of thinking about heart attacks and 1473 01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:35,610 doctors saying they're seeing an alarming number of seemingly 1474 01:25:35,610 --> 01:25:38,550 healthy patients are having heart attacks and those patients 1475 01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:41,220 are getting younger and younger. Me Suzanne Thompson 1476 01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:44,490 this morning and good morning, this story is going to blow you 1477 01:25:44,490 --> 01:25:47,970 away because research shows that more than 10% of heart attack 1478 01:25:47,970 --> 01:25:51,270 patients had no known risk factors such as obesity or 1479 01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:54,840 smoking. Now there's a group of doctors at Mount Sinai here in 1480 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,680 New York City tracking patients to see if they can uncover the 1481 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:03,510 new risk factors behind this trend. What could it be confused 1482 01:26:03,540 --> 01:26:07,950 Matisse Escobar runs to control his physical and mental health 1483 01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:13,590 by the 38 year old fine tuning his mind body with years of 1484 01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:19,200 triathlons. Until last October when the unthinkable happened. 1485 01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:23,910 The tears collapsed at the end of a race from a heart attack. 1486 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,820 How close to death did you come? 1487 01:26:27,660 --> 01:26:32,610 I was that for for several minutes. So you were dead. I 1488 01:26:32,610 --> 01:26:37,650 mean, my heart stopped beating and they they kept me with CPR 1489 01:26:37,650 --> 01:26:39,900 for 12 minutes until the ambulance came. 1490 01:26:41,010 --> 01:26:45,360 The heroic CPR was caught on camera. He's smartwatch recorded 1491 01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:46,620 what happened to his heart? 1492 01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:48,660 So you've got one heartbeat 1493 01:26:48,660 --> 01:26:51,480 there. Yes. And then nothing. For 1494 01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:55,920 two days he was in a coma? Doctors mystified by how this 1495 01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:01,770 young man in great shape. Came semester five to eat a lot of 1496 01:27:01,770 --> 01:27:03,210 red meat. No, 1497 01:27:04,590 --> 01:27:07,110 Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, no. No. 1498 01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:10,590 John C Dvorak: Honestly. The first thing she brings up is a 1499 01:27:10,590 --> 01:27:12,480 vegan talking point. Yes sir. 1500 01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:17,190 Unknown: Great shape came so close to death. Did you eat a 1501 01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:18,060 lot of red meat? 1502 01:27:18,450 --> 01:27:18,930 No. 1503 01:27:19,290 --> 01:27:20,310 Did you drink? 1504 01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:28,230 Very very little social has the stress. I wasn't stressed out 1505 01:27:28,230 --> 01:27:29,040 person at all. 1506 01:27:29,070 --> 01:27:30,780 Adam Curry: Did you get the VAX? 1507 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,590 John C Dvorak: Did you guess actually that's what she's going 1508 01:27:34,590 --> 01:27:37,380 to ask next because any journalist would just just to 1509 01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:41,760 get it in as a fact as a as a as a point is a checklist a 1510 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:42,720 checkbox thing. 1511 01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:46,410 Adam Curry: She's gonna ask yes, she's gonna ask that not 1512 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,710 Unknown: trying to unravel the mystery of young heart attacks 1513 01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:51,840 Miss Dr. Deepak Bhatt. By 1514 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,390 Adam Curry: the way you notice it's always athletic, young 1515 01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:59,100 people who get this. You're on the basketball court. You're on 1516 01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,860 the football field. You're on the soccer field. You're on the 1517 01:28:01,860 --> 01:28:06,810 fencing team. You're it's always people who are athletic, in 1518 01:28:06,810 --> 01:28:10,920 great health. Who I'm just she didn't ask John. I'm sorry, but 1519 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,020 I'm just going to guess what? Yeah, 1520 01:28:13,050 --> 01:28:16,170 Unknown: trying to unravel the mystery of young heart attacks. 1521 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:21,030 Dr. Deepak Bock, Director of Mount Sinai Mr. Hart Hospital in 1522 01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:24,900 New York City, Mr. He's looking into patients presenting with no 1523 01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:28,590 known risk factors like diabetes, high blood pressure 1524 01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:32,670 and high cholesterol. Dr. Bhatt says 12% of heart attack 1525 01:28:32,670 --> 01:28:36,510 patients don't have those risk factors. We're seeing 1526 01:28:36,510 --> 01:28:40,230 younger people come in like we never used to see before. Why is 1527 01:28:40,230 --> 01:28:40,620 that? 1528 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,180 Why is that? When 1529 01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:50,670 John C Dvorak: I saw that? 1530 01:28:51,480 --> 01:28:56,040 Adam Curry: I love the doctor bot to I am Doctor bot I am a I 1531 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,490 cannot figure out. Why is this 1532 01:28:59,580 --> 01:29:02,040 Unknown: we're seeing younger people come in like we never 1533 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:10,980 used to see before. Why is that? Well, that's a great question. I 1534 01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:14,190 think there are a lot of reasons for that one probably has to do 1535 01:29:14,190 --> 01:29:17,280 with the obesity epidemic. But it could also be other things. I 1536 01:29:17,340 --> 01:29:20,190 hate to say it but you know, there's more substance abuse 1537 01:29:20,190 --> 01:29:24,660 these days. Things like cocaine, for example. Oh, it's cocaine. 1538 01:29:24,690 --> 01:29:28,290 It's the Coke, even smoking marijuana. Another weed. It's 1539 01:29:28,290 --> 01:29:29,640 the weed potential 1540 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,090 clue, long, small dream inflammation. And 1541 01:29:33,090 --> 01:29:36,030 I'm talking about inflammation in the arteries supplying blood 1542 01:29:36,030 --> 01:29:39,540 to the heart that might lead to the plaque in that artery to act 1543 01:29:39,540 --> 01:29:44,130 up, in fact, to rupture a blood clot to form. If that blocks the 1544 01:29:44,130 --> 01:29:46,470 blood flow in that artery. That's what causes a heart 1545 01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:48,240 attack or heart muscle damage. 1546 01:29:48,810 --> 01:29:52,080 The cause of inflammation in seemingly healthy people like 1547 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,730 Mateus, who are not obese and don't smoke is not yet clear. 1548 01:29:58,590 --> 01:30:02,100 But as a precaution, the husband and father of a two year old 1549 01:30:02,220 --> 01:30:08,400 watches his diet more carefully. He's gone vegan. There it is 1550 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,720 whole grains and less red meat is recommended by Dr. Bhatt, 1551 01:30:12,990 --> 01:30:16,680 along with 30 minutes of exercise daily and getting a 1552 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,540 good night's rest. Not easy when you worry if it could happen 1553 01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:26,250 again. How do you manage that? That fear of it coming back? 1554 01:30:26,730 --> 01:30:30,120 So I think that's probably the biggest part of this entire 1555 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,300 thing. What do you do with fear that you're going to start 1556 01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:36,780 feeling things in your body that don't exist? So I it's very 1557 01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:40,080 important that you work on that right from the I feel 1558 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,350 Adam Curry: so bad. This is I mean, we're joking about it, 1559 01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:49,560 because that's what we do as as McCobb podcasters. But it's it's 1560 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:55,680 a travesty. And there was Did you see the great debate jock, 1561 01:30:55,710 --> 01:30:59,940 the great debate, the great debate, the great debate, with 1562 01:30:59,940 --> 01:31:04,980 great debate, the great debate on PDB value tainment. The value 1563 01:31:04,980 --> 01:31:05,760 tainment Oh, I 1564 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,430 John C Dvorak: missed the value team and great debate. Yes, the 1565 01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:11,040 Adam Curry: value tainment debate was between comedian. 1566 01:31:12,330 --> 01:31:14,340 John C Dvorak: That's what I want is Dave Smith. 1567 01:31:14,850 --> 01:31:18,630 Adam Curry: Who's Who's Who's on fire right now is on fire with 1568 01:31:18,630 --> 01:31:26,370 Chris Cuomo. Yes. And I actually pulled a one minute 13 second 1569 01:31:26,370 --> 01:31:32,370 clip from this. There was three hours this debate. And it's it's 1570 01:31:32,370 --> 01:31:36,030 interesting, because as far as much as we mock it, people are 1571 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:40,110 riveted by this. They had an audience, the audience sitting 1572 01:31:40,110 --> 01:31:45,570 there or like, near like Cuomo, Cuomo, Cuomo. And I think this 1573 01:31:45,570 --> 01:31:48,120 clip kind of sums it all up. was an 1574 01:31:48,150 --> 01:31:51,570 Unknown: all research that supports the shot is a two is a 1575 01:31:51,570 --> 01:31:56,010 two part answer. That emergency youth officer authorization, 1576 01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:58,650 Adam Curry: emergency youth authorization Here we go. All 1577 01:31:58,650 --> 01:32:00,990 right, Chris, you're out of control. That 1578 01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:04,380 Unknown: emergency youth officer authorization, they need to go 1579 01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:08,550 back and review why it got it. And they're never going to do it 1580 01:32:08,580 --> 01:32:12,360 right now to a bit of what Pat was saying. Right now, 1581 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:13,200 here's what you have. 1582 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:18,540 Blaine. Versus silence. You guys are the blame side. I want 1583 01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:22,140 apologies. I want to reckoning now. I want to say that I don't 1584 01:32:22,140 --> 01:32:25,290 take it. But this is why I talk about telling you 1585 01:32:26,910 --> 01:32:30,720 hear me out, hear me out. I'm telling you this. My dad told me 1586 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:34,140 something one time. He says listen, be very careful when 1587 01:32:34,140 --> 01:32:35,970 everybody says good things about you. Because one thing in 1588 01:32:35,970 --> 01:32:38,760 America is they'll turn you into here overnight, and they'll turn 1589 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,180 you to zero overnight. Yes. Then he said the following. He said 1590 01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:44,700 but this The great thing about America what America loves more 1591 01:32:44,700 --> 01:32:48,180 than anything else is a redemption story. They want to 1592 01:32:48,180 --> 01:32:52,230 see you make a comeback. They want to see you go from here you 1593 01:32:52,230 --> 01:32:56,430 are fall, they kick your ass and you're like, if you know what 1594 01:32:56,430 --> 01:33:00,180 this is America, most of us are Christians come back we believe 1595 01:33:00,180 --> 01:33:02,610 in forgiveness. And then you can make some kind of a comeback. 1596 01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:05,280 That may take a few months in a couple years. But then they're 1597 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,140 like, Okay, well, we all make mistakes. 1598 01:33:07,260 --> 01:33:11,010 Adam Curry: This is the I think this was the core of this debate 1599 01:33:11,550 --> 01:33:16,860 is the prodigal son. What people want what America wants, and I 1600 01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:20,580 don't understand why Chris Cuomo doesn't see it. They want Him to 1601 01:33:20,580 --> 01:33:28,530 say, I'm sorry. I screwed up. I was wrong. I was in the wrong 1602 01:33:28,530 --> 01:33:33,570 camp. I did a bad thing. Um, he I agree with with value 1603 01:33:33,570 --> 01:33:38,130 tainment. Man, the Chris could be the hero. Three hours am 1604 01:33:38,130 --> 01:33:40,890 Dave's comedian, comedian Dave Smith. You got to say comedian 1605 01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:45,420 Dave Smith. He just was dragging this guy. I mean, it was it was 1606 01:33:45,420 --> 01:33:48,690 like it was not a fair fight almost. Because Chris Cuomo 1607 01:33:48,690 --> 01:33:53,100 can't just say it. And that's really what America wants right 1608 01:33:53,100 --> 01:34:01,110 now. Somebody President Trump, somebody to say? I'm sorry, I 1609 01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:07,410 was wrong. anybody? Anybody? I think America would go okay all 1610 01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:10,920 right, good. So you were wrong now let's now let's move on. 1611 01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:16,080 Guys some people want death and hangings and get your teens but 1612 01:34:16,380 --> 01:34:19,890 I like that part. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 1613 01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:21,960 courage today in the morning to you the man who put the seat in 1614 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,630 the war on chicken say hello to my friend on the other end the 1615 01:34:24,630 --> 01:34:26,100 one and only Mr. John. 1616 01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:32,640 John C Dvorak: anymore you Mr. Creighton Memorial ships and see 1617 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,920 boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all 1618 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,780 the names and trolls 1619 01:34:41,820 --> 01:34:46,590 Adam Curry: you know, thank you. Thank you. Justice system of 1620 01:34:46,590 --> 01:34:54,480 America 2119 35 minutes after last Sunday's count when we had 1621 01:34:54,510 --> 01:35:01,650 1643 We are up by a massive 400 Plus trolls A lot. That's a lot. 1622 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,610 That's phenomenal, is because they want to know what we have 1623 01:35:05,610 --> 01:35:08,970 to say, what did the boys have to say? What are the borrowers 1624 01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:11,670 have to say what a boy what a borrower's have to share 1625 01:35:11,670 --> 01:35:16,140 something here for the boys to say, you can be a troll. And of 1626 01:35:16,140 --> 01:35:18,870 course, this is really our studio audience, but we'd like 1627 01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:21,300 to call them trolls because once you're in the studio audience, 1628 01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:23,460 it's what I'm 1629 01:35:23,460 --> 01:35:25,830 John C Dvorak: just rude. I just put something in the browser 1630 01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:26,520 that didn't work. 1631 01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:35,370 Adam Curry: It's x hamster. So, trolls is a little bit of a 1632 01:35:35,370 --> 01:35:39,570 misnomer. But unlike the view, where you got to shut up until 1633 01:35:39,570 --> 01:35:43,320 the applause sign goes on here, you can just troll around it 1634 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,650 trolling the zoo, whatever you want. To troll, troll troll, 1635 01:35:46,650 --> 01:35:49,050 it's all good. It's all fine. And people do it. And they take 1636 01:35:49,050 --> 01:35:52,710 advantage of it. But they also hand out information. They you 1637 01:35:52,710 --> 01:35:55,200 know, it keeps us in check. When we say something wrong, people 1638 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,680 say you're wrong. It's all very good. It's very important. Go to 1639 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,610 troll room, troll room.io, you can always join the live show. 1640 01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:06,630 You can go there 24 hours a day, because there's always something 1641 01:36:06,630 --> 01:36:10,260 going on on the no agenda stream in the troll room. People stay 1642 01:36:10,260 --> 01:36:14,370 logged in for years. In fact, I'm gonna Yes, I'm gonna ask 1643 01:36:14,370 --> 01:36:17,460 voids. Some of these people may be dead and they're still alive. 1644 01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:17,790 They 1645 01:36:17,790 --> 01:36:19,860 John C Dvorak: could be in your mind. You know, I think I've 1646 01:36:19,860 --> 01:36:21,540 always remembered from the IRC. 1647 01:36:21,690 --> 01:36:23,040 Adam Curry: I remember. Yeah, 1648 01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,230 John C Dvorak: there are people that get on and they did they 1649 01:36:25,230 --> 01:36:27,510 don't know how to hang up. And it's just on there forever. 1650 01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:29,130 They're just things are running and running. 1651 01:36:29,370 --> 01:36:32,790 Adam Curry: I I remember there was a if it wasn't he was logged 1652 01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:38,070 into a a Unix server, but I think it was an IRC channel. And 1653 01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:41,820 it was a guy who died and many stayed logged in for years after 1654 01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:48,180 that. Year dead. Yeah. Void zero, maybe you can do a do a 1655 01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:52,890 reboot. Resume? No, no, no, don't do it. No, I want to know, 1656 01:36:53,370 --> 01:36:56,100 if this if there's people have been logged in for years and 1657 01:36:56,100 --> 01:37:00,780 years. It's very possible. That's how many people just 1658 01:37:00,780 --> 01:37:04,200 John C Dvorak: kick everybody off all at once, no for five 1659 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,860 minutes and then then get back on it on if they want. It's 1660 01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:10,140 called the net spotland. Now that's another thing I should 1661 01:37:10,140 --> 01:37:13,890 mention. I believe that on some of these systems, if you're 1662 01:37:13,890 --> 01:37:18,330 especially pure IRC news, what some of these systems will read 1663 01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:22,680 log you on Yes, automatically, automatically. So it doesn't so 1664 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,140 what my theory what I'm just saying here is probably not 1665 01:37:25,140 --> 01:37:26,370 going to work. But 1666 01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:28,800 Adam Curry: then we have net splits and all kinds of things 1667 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,130 happen so but anyway, void zero network 1668 01:37:32,130 --> 01:37:33,390 John C Dvorak: split net split, we 1669 01:37:33,390 --> 01:37:36,060 Adam Curry: got a net split. Well, there's no there's it's 1670 01:37:36,060 --> 01:37:40,830 show title. Net. That's really what I'm writing it down anyway. 1671 01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:41,910 You guys, 1672 01:37:42,270 --> 01:37:44,580 John C Dvorak: you got della, you got 1673 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:49,920 Adam Curry: net split. You can also be get an alert when we go 1674 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,350 live or when any of your favorite shows go live by 1675 01:37:52,350 --> 01:37:56,280 subscribing to no agenda. In a modern podcast app. You can find 1676 01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:00,510 them at podcast apps.com. Many of them now have the live 1677 01:38:00,510 --> 01:38:03,060 stream. Some of them even have the chat capability in there for 1678 01:38:03,060 --> 01:38:05,760 the troll room. And the minute we go live boom, you get an 1679 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,010 alert. Oh, the boys are live. Let's see what they're saying. 1680 01:38:08,010 --> 01:38:11,700 Click boom. And that same app will alert you within 90 seconds 1681 01:38:11,700 --> 01:38:15,690 of us publishing a new episode. Why would you even bother with 1682 01:38:15,690 --> 01:38:23,190 anything else? We love the value for value model time talent 1683 01:38:23,190 --> 01:38:26,100 treasure, you're listening to the show you want to contribute 1684 01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:28,890 back you can hit people in the mouth you can there's many 1685 01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:32,040 things you can do even just retweeting stuff helps 1686 01:38:32,730 --> 01:38:37,200 John C Dvorak: me I want to talk about something not completely 1687 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,530 off topic, but it's one of these bonus things bonus I was 1688 01:38:40,530 --> 01:38:43,380 listening to Darryl Darren what's his name? I can't 1689 01:38:43,380 --> 01:38:48,600 remember knob guy. Yeah, and Mr. knob he made an interesting 1690 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,330 observation which brings us back to what we were talking about 1691 01:38:51,330 --> 01:38:55,410 the idea of terrorizing the public. And he I thought this is 1692 01:38:55,620 --> 01:38:59,010 I thought about it and but the way he put it was quite good. He 1693 01:38:59,010 --> 01:39:02,220 says what is the deal all of a sudden because when I was a kid 1694 01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:06,960 this never happened. There's a storm goes over a football 1695 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,650 stadium and a bat evacuate the place because nobody was didn't 1696 01:39:10,650 --> 01:39:13,920 want anyone to get killed. Really? Yes. I 1697 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,480 Adam Curry: thought that just covered the infield. 1698 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,480 John C Dvorak: No, no, they evacuate people did not get hit 1699 01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:22,140 by lightning. Well, please, despite the fact that I don't 1700 01:39:22,140 --> 01:39:25,290 know anyone has ever been hit by lightning at a football game but 1701 01:39:25,290 --> 01:39:28,290 okay, so they evacuate everybody to get him out of there. Oh, 1702 01:39:28,290 --> 01:39:34,680 there's lightning and lightning. Now the thing is lightning in 1703 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,870 situation where you have a lot of lightning. Usually they put 1704 01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:41,790 up a lightning rod Yes, stadiums have them. I'm wondering whether 1705 01:39:41,790 --> 01:39:45,030 they do but the point is they still terrorize the people make 1706 01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:47,730 them leave. And I don't think there is our light as many 1707 01:39:47,730 --> 01:39:51,180 lightning rods as there used to be. And I think this is very 1708 01:39:51,180 --> 01:39:56,760 much like the lack of forest management. They just decimated 1709 01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,670 the places get burned to the ground so paradise gets wiped 1710 01:39:59,670 --> 01:40:03,120 out. This is all part of a larger scheme. 1711 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:07,200 Adam Curry: So the idea is, there's lightning coming, you 1712 01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:12,240 evacuate everyone from the stadium to the big open parking 1713 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:12,630 lot. 1714 01:40:13,230 --> 01:40:14,580 John C Dvorak: I don't know where they send them. 1715 01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:17,610 Adam Curry: What is that all about? That doesn't make much 1716 01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:18,060 sense. I 1717 01:40:18,060 --> 01:40:19,530 John C Dvorak: think they put him out. You know that most 1718 01:40:19,530 --> 01:40:23,490 stadiums have a lot of space underneath the stands. They have 1719 01:40:23,490 --> 01:40:27,300 bombshell concessions. Oh, go to the bathroom, 1720 01:40:27,330 --> 01:40:31,470 Adam Curry: go go, go buy some food. That's what it is. There 1721 01:40:31,470 --> 01:40:39,720 you go. One of the ways that quite a few people and I have a 1722 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,480 misnomer to call them people because they are in fact Dutch 1723 01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:47,220 grandmasters artists who like to create art while we're talking 1724 01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:50,460 on the show live and then have it up on the no agenda Art 1725 01:40:50,460 --> 01:40:54,030 Generator. Thank you very much to Paul couture for having that 1726 01:40:54,030 --> 01:40:57,510 for us for 15 years now probably. I'm just guessing we 1727 01:40:57,510 --> 01:41:01,710 should find out the exact first date. And then we were able to 1728 01:41:01,710 --> 01:41:06,090 choose from a cornucopia of offerings. Right after we're 1729 01:41:06,090 --> 01:41:08,310 done with the show so we can get all up and out. Boom, boom, 1730 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:11,970 boom, Bada bing, hit the pod ping and 90 seconds later you've 1731 01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:17,310 got it with funky fresh new art and the art from last. The last 1732 01:41:17,310 --> 01:41:22,080 show 1664 We titled that friend assuring came from correct a 1733 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:29,430 record no stranger to the winning art spot. And this was 1734 01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:32,430 an inside joke but anybody who listened to the show knew right 1735 01:41:32,430 --> 01:41:37,470 away when you see this obvious federal agent showing his 1736 01:41:37,470 --> 01:41:41,010 credentials it says What's that in your mouth? Every buddy knows 1737 01:41:41,010 --> 01:41:45,630 what's going on with that joke. And it made us laugh let's be 1738 01:41:45,630 --> 01:41:49,560 honest. It just tickled us we did look at some other things I 1739 01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,330 John C Dvorak: think yeah, we try not to use it 1740 01:41:52,830 --> 01:41:55,440 Adam Curry: Yeah, right. We That's true. That's true. What 1741 01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:56,430 else was there? 1742 01:41:57,180 --> 01:41:59,970 John C Dvorak: Nothing really what nothing that was was kind 1743 01:41:59,970 --> 01:42:00,630 of was 1744 01:42:00,630 --> 01:42:03,360 Adam Curry: a lot of AI chickens. A lot of AI chicks 1745 01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:08,670 actually use the Scara mangas crazy chickens the great chicken 1746 01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:13,170 What is it you know with all the I use that for the for the pre 1747 01:42:13,170 --> 01:42:16,860 stream art this morning? I kind of liked that. There were some 1748 01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:23,130 poop balloons nothing really spectacular. The comic strip 1749 01:42:23,700 --> 01:42:25,140 John C Dvorak: it was one I liked that was going to use in 1750 01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:29,130 the newsletter before I did the dire warning which letter which 1751 01:42:29,130 --> 01:42:31,290 one? It was 1752 01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:34,200 Adam Curry: kind of like the you kind of like the jury 1753 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,590 instructions by Rick Harris. One I 1754 01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:40,020 John C Dvorak: liked the war on chickens. I like oh no is the 1755 01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:43,530 great chicken, whatever it is by Airbus scaremongers with the 1756 01:42:43,530 --> 01:42:44,910 chickens all running for cover. 1757 01:42:44,940 --> 01:42:46,710 Adam Curry: Yeah, I use that this morning. I kind of liked 1758 01:42:46,710 --> 01:42:50,520 that one. Yeah, it's a good piece but the government agent 1759 01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:54,780 with What's that in your mouth? I mean, come on. Come on. That's 1760 01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:58,620 brilliant. Brilliant. And then there was some late comers with 1761 01:42:58,620 --> 01:43:02,010 the Trump Orange Man guilty but nothing really beat you're right 1762 01:43:02,010 --> 01:43:04,980 we tried desperately not to use it and we just could not stay 1763 01:43:04,980 --> 01:43:10,950 away from it. It was the best buy hands down the best so thank 1764 01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:13,830 you very much correct to record and to all of our another Dutch 1765 01:43:13,860 --> 01:43:19,620 Grandmaster or is it just Dutch? No, it's a Dutch master now 1766 01:43:19,620 --> 01:43:22,950 grandma, just a Dutch Master I guess. Right? 1767 01:43:22,980 --> 01:43:25,980 John C Dvorak: It's not good. The first art piece on this art 1768 01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:27,780 generally there was one before that 1769 01:43:31,290 --> 01:43:32,010 Adam Curry: wasn't 1770 01:43:33,090 --> 01:43:36,540 John C Dvorak: I didn't mean go back and move this. I think it 1771 01:43:36,540 --> 01:43:39,090 was 2016 When we first started using this 1772 01:43:40,140 --> 01:43:41,700 Adam Curry: Oh, really? I thought it was earlier than 1773 01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:42,000 that. 1774 01:43:42,990 --> 01:43:45,450 John C Dvorak: There was a there was a different art generator 1775 01:43:45,450 --> 01:43:51,720 all but remember, that was Randy and the and I'm not sure whether 1776 01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:58,950 Oh, here it is. Well, well, he shot first. By freedom Northwest 1777 01:43:58,980 --> 01:44:01,890 episode. Well, these are episodes. Okay, go ahead. Okay, 1778 01:44:01,890 --> 01:44:04,980 these are just pulled in. This is bullcrap. The first was 1779 01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:11,580 really episode 23 that this Art Generator came into play. And 1780 01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:16,110 then it jumped to Episode 120. Now this is just some legacy 1781 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:21,480 legacy put up there. I think episode 201 Yeah, Episode 201 is 1782 01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:24,660 when it really began with the picture of the girl coming out 1783 01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:25,740 of the swimming pool. That's 1784 01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:26,850 Adam Curry: 2009 I 1785 01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:28,980 John C Dvorak: guess 2012? 1786 01:44:29,790 --> 01:44:32,580 Adam Curry: Really? That was? Okay. Two thirds. So 12 years. 1787 01:44:32,610 --> 01:44:36,570 All right. But the I stand corrected 12 years? No, you 1788 01:44:36,570 --> 01:44:38,130 John C Dvorak: sit Correct. Oh, no, you're standing. I 1789 01:44:38,130 --> 01:44:39,210 Adam Curry: know. I'm sitting right now. 1790 01:44:40,170 --> 01:44:41,310 John C Dvorak: Then you sit corrected. 1791 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,890 Adam Curry: So we don't do commercials on the show. We 1792 01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:47,280 don't take creepy corporate money. There's no subscriptions. 1793 01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:52,650 There's no Patreon. There's no the premium content you have to 1794 01:44:52,650 --> 01:44:56,040 pay for. We give you the show. The give you the show and we ask 1795 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,670 you to return value in any way you can. Now what's interesting 1796 01:44:59,670 --> 01:45:04,980 about The model is that really, in a, in a case where it's 1797 01:45:04,980 --> 01:45:11,130 really good, it's about it's 3%. It's probably a tad less, but we 1798 01:45:11,130 --> 01:45:14,190 have really well we created the model. And we've really honed 1799 01:45:14,190 --> 01:45:18,420 it. And, and value for value works for us, we're not going to 1800 01:45:18,420 --> 01:45:21,090 be we're never going to be Joe Rogan. That's never gonna 1801 01:45:21,090 --> 01:45:24,480 happen. But we get by, you know, the idea that you can ask 1802 01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:27,600 everybody just put it in $5 a month, if everybody does it, 1803 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,970 then everything's good. We're never having to have to stop for 1804 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,060 to ask for anything, that that's a pipe dream, that will never 1805 01:45:33,060 --> 01:45:37,440 happen. So I'd like to help people who are considering doing 1806 01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:40,500 any value for value podcasts that could give you give you a 1807 01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:44,610 little bit of a tip of how this works. One of the one of the 1808 01:45:44,610 --> 01:45:49,350 important ingredients of a value for value podcast, really, of 1809 01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:54,030 all podcasts, but of a value for value podcast, specifically, is 1810 01:45:54,030 --> 01:46:00,780 the newsletter. The newsletter is there to remind you that we 1811 01:46:00,780 --> 01:46:07,350 have a show coming up. The newsletter remind you many cases 1812 01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:10,620 of the valuable work we have done, and in some cases of the 1813 01:46:10,620 --> 01:46:15,210 valuable work that is to come. The next day, it even comes down 1814 01:46:15,210 --> 01:46:20,220 to I would say because you are in charge of the newsletter. I'd 1815 01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:24,150 say that you even have it down to a science as to what time you 1816 01:46:24,150 --> 01:46:26,520 send it out. Do you even do staggered for different 1817 01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:27,330 countries? 1818 01:46:28,530 --> 01:46:30,660 John C Dvorak: I have done that. But I don't normally do it 1819 01:46:30,660 --> 01:46:35,490 anymore because it hasn't showed and to be worthwhile. I do a B 1820 01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:38,880 testing occasionally when I think something might work. But 1821 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,210 Adam Curry: generally speaking no. Is there a sweet spot of 1822 01:46:42,210 --> 01:46:44,760 time that you feel is the right the right time? 1823 01:46:45,660 --> 01:46:49,050 John C Dvorak: Well, a couple of things. MailChimp, for one has a 1824 01:46:49,050 --> 01:46:51,240 time optimization feature this time 1825 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,160 Adam Curry: optimization feature a tough? 1826 01:46:55,050 --> 01:46:57,300 John C Dvorak: So you ask it what do you think the best time 1827 01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:00,750 it'll be? And so then and I consider it to be very 1828 01:47:00,750 --> 01:47:09,150 inconsistent. So I tend to do the newsletter. By the same day 1829 01:47:09,150 --> 01:47:13,290 I said when I finished it, I ship it in. And the difference 1830 01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:18,870 between shipping newsletter at 1111 3012 1215. A used to be 1831 01:47:18,870 --> 01:47:23,640 three o'clock on weekends. I haven't seen any no real 1832 01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:28,650 difference. Real important differences. But the day before 1833 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,070 for sure. Yeah. Because the next day is the show. 1834 01:47:32,130 --> 01:47:34,860 Adam Curry: And and would you say that there's some signs to 1835 01:47:34,860 --> 01:47:38,340 the title of the newsletter? Is there are there certain we've I 1836 01:47:38,340 --> 01:47:40,800 think we've learned that certain things are not good, like don't 1837 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,980 say anti Google stuff, because then it doesn't show up in Gmail 1838 01:47:44,430 --> 01:47:47,250 is true. Don't put any like anything. Even the word 1839 01:47:47,250 --> 01:47:50,280 Republican is a bad idea. Because even if you're slagging 1840 01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,640 off Republicans, it's a bad idea. Because I would 1841 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,920 John C Dvorak: say yeah, there's a lot of stuff. In fact, we had 1842 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,830 a great letter for somebody showing that and I'm gonna 1843 01:47:58,830 --> 01:48:01,680 actually write a column like subset column on this on his 1844 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:06,660 note, based on his note, which is the and the column is going 1845 01:48:06,660 --> 01:48:11,820 to be called the fixes in regarding the upcoming election. 1846 01:48:11,850 --> 01:48:13,170 But that's coming 1847 01:48:13,290 --> 01:48:15,660 Adam Curry: on the Oasis soon to come on the on 1848 01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:21,360 John C Dvorak: the oasis. And so you ended up with, yes, there 1849 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,910 are certain things you can't do. And even talking bad about 1850 01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:29,130 Google, I believe, because they look at this stuff. It's like 1851 01:48:29,130 --> 01:48:32,580 this, you must be writing bad things about the CIA, because 1852 01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:37,140 they see it goes right to the semana. Just go. Turn it down. 1853 01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:39,780 We had that a couple of weeks ago, where I said, I forgot what 1854 01:48:39,780 --> 01:48:43,350 I was writing about, but nobody opened and how did this happen? 1855 01:48:43,380 --> 01:48:45,840 Yeah. So there's some trick. 1856 01:48:46,410 --> 01:48:50,220 Adam Curry: So and then one of the most important parts of the 1857 01:48:50,220 --> 01:48:57,060 value for value model, which was confirmed by my final and best 1858 01:48:57,060 --> 01:49:02,910 wife, Tina, if you don't ask, she thinks that's funny. By the 1859 01:49:02,910 --> 01:49:08,220 way, if you don't ask final wave, I'm not embarrassed if you 1860 01:49:08,220 --> 01:49:11,910 get through that. And of course, if you don't ask, people will 1861 01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:15,810 not give. And she, her whole career spent raising money in 1862 01:49:15,810 --> 01:49:19,350 nonprofit organizations, most recently wrong McDonald House 1863 01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:23,040 Charities. And she said, you'd be amazed how many people said, 1864 01:49:23,490 --> 01:49:25,980 if you ask them, whoa, why didn't you donate to the 1865 01:49:25,980 --> 01:49:29,610 charity? Well, no one asked. You'd be amazed. So the 1866 01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:35,310 newsletter isn't important part of the value for value model by 1867 01:49:35,310 --> 01:49:41,160 saying, hey, please support us 3% of people who do and I bring 1868 01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:46,770 this up, because CSB comic strip blogger, who, as far as I know 1869 01:49:46,770 --> 01:49:50,100 has never donated to the show. But remember, it's time talent 1870 01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:51,300 and treasure and he does 1871 01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:54,150 John C Dvorak: he's got plenty of these entities is a prompt 1872 01:49:54,150 --> 01:49:54,810 jockey. He's a 1873 01:49:55,530 --> 01:49:58,440 Adam Curry: jockey. He contributes lots of art from 1874 01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:02,430 time to time, but not Adam does get picked not a monetary 1875 01:50:02,430 --> 01:50:06,180 supporter and so he posted the following because he did some 1876 01:50:06,180 --> 01:50:11,070 research for us John some research regarding divorce X sad 1877 01:50:11,070 --> 01:50:16,920 puppy low donations newsletter so far I see two main reasons 1878 01:50:17,130 --> 01:50:22,470 that listeners mention see attached screenshot that the 1879 01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:27,360 main reasons he says why donations are low is one 1880 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:34,740 insulting listeners to supporting Israel only and not 1881 01:50:34,740 --> 01:50:39,870 covering what Israel is doing in Palestine. 36,000 Palestinians 1882 01:50:39,870 --> 01:50:45,180 killed as revenge for 1200 Israelis killed. And he has 1883 01:50:45,180 --> 01:50:48,060 written and he has recommendations. Oh, does he? 1884 01:50:48,090 --> 01:50:54,330 Yes. He says, cover more other side not just pro Israel. No, 1885 01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:58,080 yeah, that's not what the people want. People want us to do some 1886 01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:02,550 kind of Nick Fuentes, the Jews run everything. So you're not 1887 01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:06,540 gonna get that from us. We have played all sides. Yeah, 1888 01:51:06,540 --> 01:51:08,880 John C Dvorak: we play all sides. And in many shows, we 1889 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:10,320 don't even discuss this issue. 1890 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,200 Adam Curry: You know, gosh, because it's, it's just not that 1891 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,590 big a deal. Unless you deconstruct and thank you. Yes, 1892 01:51:16,590 --> 01:51:19,140 unless you think the Jews control the world and they're 1893 01:51:19,140 --> 01:51:24,000 the problem. And the other one, this is interesting. Stop 1894 01:51:24,030 --> 01:51:29,310 insulting. Don't call people trolls. Don't bash shit posters 1895 01:51:29,340 --> 01:51:34,530 and meme lords. Well, let me say something. Trolls shit posters 1896 01:51:34,530 --> 01:51:40,980 and meme Lords don't donate 3% of people who value what we do 1897 01:51:40,980 --> 01:51:45,480 donate. So when John sends out the sad puppy, which by the way 1898 01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:51,240 is you know, it's never done for any other reason, then donations 1899 01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:59,160 are absolutely atrocious. It's a reminder to people. And i My 1900 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,370 heart is full today. How about your heart? 1901 01:52:04,530 --> 01:52:07,560 John C Dvorak: My hearts healthy. Is it the army because 1902 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:08,880 I didn't get the vaccine? 1903 01:52:09,690 --> 01:52:12,840 Adam Curry: Isn't your heart full? To see how 1904 01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:15,600 John C Dvorak: I was happy with the results of the newsletter it 1905 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,360 became a brought in a lot, which means we're gonna have a 1906 01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:22,980 donation segment is a little long. And, and Jay handled it 1907 01:52:22,980 --> 01:52:24,660 well. And yeah, he's 1908 01:52:24,660 --> 01:52:27,660 Adam Curry: a very well, she did extra she had to crack the whip 1909 01:52:27,660 --> 01:52:30,480 today. She had to work very hard. And I 1910 01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:32,670 John C Dvorak: wonder so she got up earlier, not only 1911 01:52:32,670 --> 01:52:36,570 Adam Curry: did people step up, they stepped up big time. And 1912 01:52:36,570 --> 01:52:39,660 almost no one at all. Like no jingles no karma. I just want 1913 01:52:39,660 --> 01:52:42,810 you to know I appreciate what you do. This is how value for 1914 01:52:42,810 --> 01:52:48,660 value works. And I I am pleased that once again after almost 17 1915 01:52:48,660 --> 01:52:51,930 years we have stuck to our guns. We're not pandering to what 1916 01:52:51,930 --> 01:52:57,390 people want us to do. We just do our own thing consistently. Now. 1917 01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:02,400 We didn't pander when everyone was hanging up Ukraine flags. 1918 01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,670 When in pander when everybody was saying Shut up, get the 1919 01:53:05,670 --> 01:53:06,270 shot. 1920 01:53:08,340 --> 01:53:12,420 John C Dvorak: That's for sure. So I want to mention something 1921 01:53:12,420 --> 01:53:18,330 about this. His notion that we insult the audience we do. There 1922 01:53:18,330 --> 01:53:23,730 is a school of thought in radio, right? You listen to the most 1923 01:53:23,730 --> 01:53:30,360 popular guys on radio. That guy? Mark Levin is not in that in the 1924 01:53:30,420 --> 01:53:32,850 league I'm talking about I'm talking about the Jim Rome's and 1925 01:53:32,850 --> 01:53:36,090 the people who've developed an audience. We're using their own 1926 01:53:36,090 --> 01:53:39,330 codes and using their own way of putting people even Rush 1927 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,980 Limbaugh, who called his audience ditto heads was 1928 01:53:43,980 --> 01:53:48,510 something of an insult. Yeah. And Rome has got a name for his 1929 01:53:48,510 --> 01:53:52,740 audience. And it's insulting. And lot it and a lot of audience 1930 01:53:52,740 --> 01:53:58,590 members. Producers are not like it. Yes, they do. Because it 1931 01:53:58,590 --> 01:54:01,470 shows that you're you're part of the group and you're not just 1932 01:54:01,470 --> 01:54:05,850 they they're not just a blob out there. And so and I don't know 1933 01:54:05,850 --> 01:54:08,700 what kind of insults he's talking about, we insult him all 1934 01:54:08,700 --> 01:54:12,690 the time. You mostly Yes. You're insulting comic strip blogger, 1935 01:54:12,690 --> 01:54:15,180 and you don't think he doesn't enjoy it? He 1936 01:54:15,180 --> 01:54:19,380 Adam Curry: does. That? I know he does. I've met him in person 1937 01:54:19,380 --> 01:54:22,290 once. He's been with me longer than the new. 1938 01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:25,860 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he was whacking the daily source code. 1939 01:54:26,670 --> 01:54:27,960 As a fan of yours. Yes. 1940 01:54:28,020 --> 01:54:29,880 Adam Curry: I don't know if he's a fan, but he's been around. 1941 01:54:30,180 --> 01:54:33,120 John C Dvorak: Well, he's not not a fan. I mean, he's, well, 1942 01:54:33,630 --> 01:54:37,560 he's just one of those hate listeners maybe. Anyway, she's 1943 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:38,610 an insult. We're 1944 01:54:38,610 --> 01:54:41,490 Adam Curry: going to celebrate with our executive and Associate 1945 01:54:41,490 --> 01:54:44,580 Executive Producers right now. These are the people who came in 1946 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,480 $200 and above for associate title. And by the way, it's a 1947 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,780 real title these these credits are real. This is not some phony 1948 01:54:51,780 --> 01:54:56,580 baloney thing and go to imdb.com and see hundreds probably over 1949 01:54:56,580 --> 01:54:59,970 1000 people now have registered their official show business 1950 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,720 Credit $300 above is an executive producers just the 1951 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,540 same way Hollywood works. That's why we call everybody a 1952 01:55:06,540 --> 01:55:10,950 producer. You give us one buck, you're a producer. You make some 1953 01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:14,490 art. You're a producer and an artist that we know and you get 1954 01:55:14,490 --> 01:55:17,280 credit for that too. We credit people for what the work they 1955 01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:21,330 do. We appreciate you. And people like to appreciate us 1956 01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:25,620 back and the crutch. YOLO parts are known on the spreadsheet 1957 01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:34,530 sends us $1,929 Today, which is an outrageous amount and he has 1958 01:55:34,530 --> 01:55:38,940 a note because it's of significance to him. ITM jets. 1959 01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,540 Today is two years since my father passed and since reading 1960 01:55:42,540 --> 01:55:45,120 the newsletter and hearing of the dire situation of the 1961 01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:48,600 givings. I decided since today is the anniversary of my dad's 1962 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:52,830 passing an amazing father, friend and human. I'm donating 1963 01:55:52,830 --> 01:55:57,750 1929 for the year he was born. The two of you sound like 1964 01:55:57,780 --> 01:56:01,800 amazing fathers as well. So this is for the two of you as well. 1965 01:56:01,860 --> 01:56:05,880 Love is lit. I miss you, Dad and I love you. You are right. I 1966 01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,540 miss you every day. Just goat karma for all the producers out 1967 01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:12,930 there. I was known as Baron crack, but I'm unfamiliar where 1968 01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:17,520 my donation puts my new title, if any. Wow, what is what does 1969 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:18,000 it go? 1970 01:56:18,090 --> 01:56:21,240 John C Dvorak: I checked it out. I looked at his numbers T is 1971 01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:24,750 actually technically in URL, but he doesn't care. But he will be 1972 01:56:24,750 --> 01:56:28,980 a Duke shortly. Okay, that's how much he's given us good. And 1973 01:56:28,980 --> 01:56:31,710 when he says he'll just wait till it gets there. And 1974 01:56:31,710 --> 01:56:34,020 Adam Curry: he closes I'm just happy to be among the best 1975 01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:37,530 producers in the world on the best podcast in the universe 1976 01:56:37,530 --> 01:56:43,410 from Andy crunchy YOLO Baron soon to be duped crack. You've 1977 01:56:43,410 --> 01:56:43,860 got 1978 01:56:47,790 --> 01:56:51,300 John C Dvorak: your right to an anonymous donation from San 1979 01:56:51,300 --> 01:56:56,670 Antonio. And this came in at 1052 63. So I assumed that they 1980 01:56:56,820 --> 01:57:00,570 added $1,000 donation and picked up this tab which is 52 bucks 1981 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:05,880 also appreciated for fees. That's why checks are better in 1982 01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,820 that regard. But that's okay. John and Adam. Thanks for a 1983 01:57:08,820 --> 01:57:13,260 great show. This is 1052 63 being a listener for many years. 1984 01:57:13,260 --> 01:57:22,350 But first time donor, please do do Schmitz. D deuced. That was 1985 01:57:22,350 --> 01:57:25,740 the one of the guys that when I send a newsletter out like this 1986 01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:29,760 last one that this is the tree shaker. What you end up with San 1987 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:30,870 Antonio coming in. 1988 01:57:30,900 --> 01:57:34,140 Adam Curry: Yeah. It's beautiful. This is this. If 1989 01:57:34,140 --> 01:57:37,620 you're starting a podcast doing value for value, you got to get 1990 01:57:37,620 --> 01:57:41,910 over yourself. This is how it works. Thank you very much 1991 01:57:41,910 --> 01:57:47,280 anonymous, San Antonio. Don Tommaso no stranger from 1992 01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:51,390 kettleby. Ontario. From Don Tomaso de Toronto responding to 1993 01:57:51,390 --> 01:57:54,570 the newsletter emergency beacon that is all no jingles no karma. 1994 01:57:54,570 --> 01:57:59,820 By the way. This is just over 1500 Canadian dollar dues. We 1995 01:57:59,820 --> 01:58:04,050 are doomed. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that. 1996 01:58:04,170 --> 01:58:09,720 John C Dvorak: Another anonymous from Irvine, California 1001 33. 1997 01:58:09,870 --> 01:58:16,080 I'd like to claim the title. Ceramic jar. Night of the loose 1998 01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:19,440 leaf. Dear John and Adam, thanks for all you 1999 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,900 Adam Curry: do. And look at the end by the way that's that is 2000 01:58:21,900 --> 01:58:26,700 101 dot 33. Which is got a little math to it and magic 2001 01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:30,990 number. Yeah, that's good. J S is from Madison Heights 2002 01:58:30,990 --> 01:58:33,960 Virginia. $500. Thanks for all you do Adam and John. I'm a 2003 01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:37,740 millennial single mom, and was headed down the path of wokeness 2004 01:58:37,740 --> 01:58:41,880 until my best friend hit me in the mouth. Please do do Shem for 2005 01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,910 never donating dude. Oh, wait. I think she made 2006 01:58:44,910 --> 01:58:47,490 John C Dvorak: us Yeah. Does she mean? We know we 2007 01:58:47,490 --> 01:58:50,310 Adam Curry: know what you mean. Yeah. We know we know what you 2008 01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:54,330 mean. I'm so thankful for your show. Since listening. I've 2009 01:58:54,330 --> 01:58:57,540 mended my ways and I'm now homeschooling my daughter 2010 01:58:57,780 --> 01:59:03,690 teaching her to use a slingshot and just found a raw milk share 2011 01:59:03,690 --> 01:59:08,250 to be part of it. Cheers to you guys and to all lactating cattle 2012 01:59:08,250 --> 01:59:13,410 everywhere. J S. You are an awesome mom is 2013 01:59:13,410 --> 01:59:17,100 John C Dvorak: 500 Yeah, Sir Brian Lawson and Douglas Douglas 2014 01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:21,720 in New York. It's 350 93 and all he says is Sir Brian Lawson of 2015 01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:23,370 Douglaston beautiful 2016 01:59:23,370 --> 01:59:27,540 Adam Curry: Michael Conti and Mansfield Texas. 350 93 no notes 2017 01:59:27,540 --> 01:59:33,570 so give him a double up karma. You've got karma 2018 01:59:35,460 --> 01:59:39,930 John C Dvorak: game fates. First in Pensacola, Florida. 350 93 2019 01:59:39,930 --> 01:59:44,100 Switcheroo game faith first here from Pensacola, Florida. I want 2020 01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:48,660 to say that I'm tired of being married to a douchebag please de 2021 01:59:48,660 --> 01:59:50,430 douche my husband. Oh porta 2022 01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:54,060 Unknown: de deuced. 2023 01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:59,370 John C Dvorak: I put this towards his knighthood. We will 2024 01:59:59,370 --> 02:00:03,630 rectify By the issue as it's a disgrace to the no agenda 2025 02:00:03,630 --> 02:00:08,010 community for a lovely Dame to be married to such a cheapskate 2026 02:00:09,810 --> 02:00:12,870 love you both and God bless no jingles no karma. Oh 2027 02:00:12,870 --> 02:00:18,030 Adam Curry: beautiful. Thank you, sir Dr. Jeff in Arthur turn 2028 02:00:18,060 --> 02:00:22,350 California. Atherton Atherton. Atherton, I think Atherton 2029 02:00:22,350 --> 02:00:25,500 John C Dvorak: that number one expensive zip code in the world. 2030 02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:29,190 Well, that would enrich his zip code in the world that 2031 02:00:29,190 --> 02:00:33,510 Adam Curry: would explain 350 93 PODD father and JC the ITM 30. 2032 02:00:33,510 --> 02:00:36,450 Threes have been following me for the past month hotel rooms 2033 02:00:36,450 --> 02:00:40,260 cab fare, and just this morning, what a dozen eggs a loaf of 2034 02:00:40,260 --> 02:00:44,520 multigrain bread and a gallon of milk cost in the Bay Area. Sir 2035 02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:49,800 Dr. Jeff of the valleys of silica and man hat. Yes, he's 2036 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,980 John C Dvorak: got that right. A dozen eggs, a loaf of multigrain 2037 02:00:52,980 --> 02:00:56,010 bread and a gallon of milk in the San Francisco Bay Area costs 2038 02:00:56,010 --> 02:01:05,550 $350.93. Thanks, Joe Biden. Right. I'm here. Mark Hardwick 2039 02:01:05,550 --> 02:01:11,400 and Ed was in Aledo, Texas Alito. 33333 ITM Keep up the 2040 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,780 good fight. Mark Hardwick in Aledo. Texas, sir 2041 02:01:15,780 --> 02:01:20,160 Adam Curry: day focus. Oh, he doesn't know him. He's the Duke 2042 02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,370 of America's heartland and the Arabian pullins Peninsula. Good 2043 02:01:23,370 --> 02:01:26,910 to see him back on the list. Gladstone, Missouri. 333 dot 33. 2044 02:01:26,910 --> 02:01:30,690 Fellas, lovely work of late keep it up. One question for Adam. 2045 02:01:30,930 --> 02:01:34,770 How to podcast joined the live stream of thinking of the 2046 02:01:34,770 --> 02:01:39,720 disaffected podcast, Josh Slocum great podcast, by the way. It's 2047 02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:42,990 on my list, and others that are in the same questioning 2048 02:01:42,990 --> 02:01:46,590 deconstructing milieu. He's in the podcast index. So that's a 2049 02:01:46,590 --> 02:01:49,470 good start. And John, we all get a kick out of how you were 2050 02:01:49,470 --> 02:01:52,260 handling the live stream off that fire truck at Brunetti is 2051 02:01:52,260 --> 02:01:58,530 ranch. You guys are swell. No jingles no karma? Well, it does 2052 02:01:58,530 --> 02:02:03,900 require coordination. Sir Ryan bemrose coordinates all of that 2053 02:02:03,900 --> 02:02:03,990 you 2054 02:02:03,990 --> 02:02:07,440 John C Dvorak: have to you have to lobby you got you do have 2055 02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:08,700 Ryan Vanbrugh. Yes, 2056 02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:12,390 Adam Curry: you got a lobby bemrose and it does require he's 2057 02:02:12,390 --> 02:02:13,470 a grouch by the way. 2058 02:02:13,530 --> 02:02:15,030 John C Dvorak: So no, note that that's the 2059 02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:18,180 Adam Curry: kind of guy you want running the stream. Yes, he's in 2060 02:02:18,180 --> 02:02:19,470 the troll room. You can find him. 2061 02:02:21,450 --> 02:02:23,730 John C Dvorak: Hookers will work but it's it's 2062 02:02:23,730 --> 02:02:24,960 Adam Curry: been known to work. Yes. 2063 02:02:25,980 --> 02:02:28,890 John C Dvorak: Anonymous, Seattle, Washington. 33333. No, 2064 02:02:28,890 --> 02:02:29,250 no, 2065 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:31,200 Adam Curry: no. All right, double up karma for anonymous 2066 02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:38,910 there. You've got karma. James Martin. The Texans are coming 2067 02:02:38,910 --> 02:02:43,530 out Aubrey Texas. 333 33. ITM saw the sad puppy bad signal and 2068 02:02:43,530 --> 02:02:47,520 had not donated in a while. Just wondering how old the sad puppy 2069 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,120 would be now. And did you ever find happiness? Oh, well, that'd 2070 02:02:51,120 --> 02:03:01,080 John C Dvorak: be dead believe me. Poor dog. Ryan and Tony God 2071 02:03:01,140 --> 02:03:07,950 in Pembroke Massachusetts. 33333 I heard donations for low sad 2072 02:03:07,950 --> 02:03:12,600 puppy Isn't it sad puppy is in order. Use code bond Gino to get 2073 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:17,760 33% off too many eggs.com Not that I know of. I can I get a 2074 02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:22,500 Biden whole load and something hot on my leg. Thanks for 2075 02:03:22,500 --> 02:03:23,460 everything. Now. 2076 02:03:23,670 --> 02:03:29,400 Adam Curry: Did we find that hot on my leg? I can't Yes. What was 2077 02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:30,300 it? It's 2078 02:03:30,300 --> 02:03:33,960 John C Dvorak: running down my Oh, so how's it running? I don't 2079 02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:35,580 know. running 2080 02:03:36,750 --> 02:03:37,980 Adam Curry: down my leg. 2081 02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:40,830 John C Dvorak: Just maybe legged the word leg would be Do you 2082 02:03:40,830 --> 02:03:41,490 know how 2083 02:03:41,490 --> 02:03:43,860 Adam Curry: many results leg gives you? 2084 02:03:44,250 --> 02:03:46,260 John C Dvorak: I don't know why would be more than one. 2085 02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:47,430 Adam Curry: Oh my god. 2086 02:03:47,490 --> 02:03:49,800 John C Dvorak: There's so much leg. I want to introduce 2087 02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:54,630 something by the way. Okay. But as an aside, and this is Mimi's 2088 02:03:54,630 --> 02:03:58,260 ID and I thought was a good one. And I thought that I could put 2089 02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:03,120 in the newsletter. She says there's so many people asking 2090 02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,570 for baby making karma. We should have a special karma and I put 2091 02:04:06,570 --> 02:04:10,290 one together. Oh, it's on the karma list. You tell me if you 2092 02:04:10,290 --> 02:04:12,870 like it, you can always modify it or whatever. But this is the 2093 02:04:12,870 --> 02:04:16,020 baby making karma. Jingle Oh, 2094 02:04:16,020 --> 02:04:18,240 Adam Curry: you have an actual jingle I'm sorry. Here we go. 2095 02:04:19,530 --> 02:04:22,050 Unknown: karma karma now under karma 2096 02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,090 Adam Curry: so that Oh, okay. I got you here. 2097 02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:27,390 Unknown: You've got 2098 02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:34,320 Adam Curry: I like it. 2099 02:04:35,490 --> 02:04:39,690 John C Dvorak: I like it. It's a slap on the ass. Yep. And the 2100 02:04:39,690 --> 02:04:40,440 baby crying. 2101 02:04:41,250 --> 02:04:42,030 Adam Curry: I like it. So 2102 02:04:42,030 --> 02:04:44,310 John C Dvorak: now from now on if you want anyone wants baby 2103 02:04:44,310 --> 02:04:46,650 making karma they can. They'll hear that. 2104 02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:51,390 Adam Curry: I still for the life of me can't find the song. It's 2105 02:04:51,390 --> 02:04:54,750 a great bit to the something running down my leg but I can't 2106 02:04:54,750 --> 02:04:58,680 find it. Well, I'll just I'll do a hairy legs. It's all I got. 2107 02:04:58,710 --> 02:05:01,980 Unknown: I'm gonna give you the whole wounded I got hairy legs 2108 02:05:01,980 --> 02:05:04,680 Adam Curry: that's all I'm sorry Someone please send me something 2109 02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:10,380 hard on my legs so I can title it properly I got hairy leg sir 2110 02:05:10,380 --> 02:05:15,900 juicy juicy sorry sir juicy White Marsh Maryland 333 33 Oh 2111 02:05:15,900 --> 02:05:19,470 hold on a second. Oh wait Fletcher Fletcher to the rescue. 2112 02:05:20,430 --> 02:05:23,580 All right Where's Fletcher? Fletcher man, you are the best. 2113 02:05:23,940 --> 02:05:30,090 Something hot on my legs. There we go. Ask and You Shall Receive 2114 02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:32,550 beautiful All right I'm gonna save that in a moment to make 2115 02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:35,970 sure we get that beautiful Fletch, you demand you to me you 2116 02:05:35,970 --> 02:05:40,980 demand back to cert juicy White Marsh Maryland 333 dot 33 saw 2117 02:05:40,980 --> 02:05:44,400 that sad dog in the newsletter worried with short newsletter 2118 02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:48,330 John might be going to kick that puppy. Oh no, though we'd never 2119 02:05:48,330 --> 02:05:52,170 do you'd never kick a puppy. Please use the donation to save 2120 02:05:52,170 --> 02:05:57,660 the puppies life. Jingles a dog yelping? I did get a bark for 2121 02:05:57,660 --> 02:06:02,070 you and don't Raph why you roughing Bark? Bark Bark. Pump 2122 02:06:02,070 --> 02:06:07,620 It Up? Why are you laughing? Shut up. There you go. 2123 02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:14,940 John C Dvorak: Sir, sir Sir Corby in Hamilton Ohio. 33332 2124 02:06:14,940 --> 02:06:18,120 you love you guys house buying karma please Thank gosh or 2125 02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:18,570 Corby. 2126 02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:27,930 Adam Curry: You've got karma I am so having a running down my 2127 02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:32,670 leg. I am so happy to have this now. This is This is fabulous. 2128 02:06:33,180 --> 02:06:36,390 Okay, let me just make sure it shows up in the search this 2129 02:06:37,530 --> 02:06:40,170 write it down run it? Yes. It shows up in the search. Okay. 2130 02:06:40,170 --> 02:06:45,150 butyrate again. Oh, he was not expecting that. Here we go. I 2131 02:06:45,150 --> 02:06:52,290 just felt something hot on my legs. Yeah. 15 forever. 2132 02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:59,010 Beautiful. Beautiful. Then, okay. This is Dragon Slayer st 2133 02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:02,820 from St. George. Where St. George where St. George? Isn't 2134 02:07:02,820 --> 02:07:11,250 it in Canada? doesn't specify. But perhaps it is okay. rather 2135 02:07:11,250 --> 02:07:15,300 long note but there is a title here. So, jingle requests Adam 2136 02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:18,120 get him a cube de Deus, Pisco, my birthday. Nothing like a dame 2137 02:07:18,210 --> 02:07:23,010 switcheroo to Tracy, my wonderful wife of 37 years and 2138 02:07:23,010 --> 02:07:26,220 we never had a fight that resulted in a police response. 2139 02:07:26,220 --> 02:07:29,280 At least. She is a self taught Dudette named Bernadette who 2140 02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,800 started her career with 10 years in public relations for a 2141 02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:36,930 steamboat cruise line. plying the Mississippi and Ohio rivers 2142 02:07:36,990 --> 02:07:40,350 I'm amazed and in awe of her accomplishments. Plus she's an 2143 02:07:40,350 --> 02:07:43,350 IT person who was trained to communicate with a non tech 2144 02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:46,950 users very rare. In June of last year, we were listening to the 2145 02:07:46,950 --> 02:07:49,470 show on the no agenda stream.com And she comments that she would 2146 02:07:49,470 --> 02:07:52,410 like to have her 60s birthday included in the birthday 2147 02:07:52,410 --> 02:07:55,860 segment, please add to the list so dumb. I initiated a plan to 2148 02:07:55,860 --> 02:07:58,740 surprise Tracy with a very own executive producer ship on her 2149 02:07:58,740 --> 02:08:03,180 60th birthday which is today June 2. Happy Birthday My love 2150 02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:07,860 and enjoy being executive producer of show 1665 But wait, 2151 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:11,880 there's more. Yes, it's a trifecta. Today my year long 2152 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,000 scheme comes to fruition and I humbly request my wife to be 2153 02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:19,230 granted the title of Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite are it II 2154 02:08:20,190 --> 02:08:23,610 thank you for sharing the past 37 years with many more to come. 2155 02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:28,590 I love you. Dragon Slayer in St. George please play biscuit on my 2156 02:08:28,590 --> 02:08:31,890 birthday. There's nothing like a dame and he says depending on 2157 02:08:31,890 --> 02:08:34,980 timing of this segment while you took it all anyway Tracy and I 2158 02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:38,700 are listening while at the third annual no agenda South Louisiana 2159 02:08:38,700 --> 02:08:43,770 crawfish boil meetup hosted by Dame Mary moon and Serge dewclaw 2160 02:08:43,770 --> 02:08:47,730 in Prairie Village Louisiana. Pinch the tails and set the head 2161 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:49,650 they always give me a biscuit on my 2162 02:08:49,650 --> 02:08:51,960 Unknown: birthday. There is nothing like 2163 02:09:07,020 --> 02:09:08,460 Adam Curry: nice nice note brother. 2164 02:09:08,490 --> 02:09:13,080 John C Dvorak: Good no Maxwell Los Alamos New Mexico. I did get 2165 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:14,970 my I got the challenge going by the way. 2166 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,180 Adam Curry: So you got it. From White Sands cool. Yeah. 2167 02:09:19,290 --> 02:09:22,200 John C Dvorak: 315 85 Thanks for all you do. keep on keepin on. 2168 02:09:22,350 --> 02:09:23,820 Goat karma, please. 2169 02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:33,030 Adam Curry: You've got karma. onto real side real estate 2170 02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:38,220 education. Westville Ohio. 300. The puppies got me keep it up. 2171 02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:39,270 Thank you. 2172 02:09:41,820 --> 02:09:44,490 John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Wembley downs, Washington. Yeah, 2173 02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:48,630 Western Australia. That's what it is. Dear John, and Adam, I 2174 02:09:48,630 --> 02:09:52,410 will continue to listen and learn and appreciate pretty much 2175 02:09:52,410 --> 02:09:56,880 all the shows. Pretty much. Let me start over because I'm adding 2176 02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,490 your ad libbing something it's unnecessary. I know I'm thinking 2177 02:09:59,490 --> 02:10:02,850 of myself. Is that 250 Take him there is that really 250 2178 02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,760 American dollars because then if that's west deaths australian 2179 02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:09,540 dollar reduces about 350. Yeah. Wow there John and Adam, I 2180 02:10:09,540 --> 02:10:12,690 continue to listen and learn and appreciate greatly all that the 2181 02:10:12,690 --> 02:10:17,910 show has done to reassure me that I'm not crazy. Love and lit 2182 02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:22,290 and no Genos no karma from anonymous in Perth. All right, 2183 02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:22,530 thank 2184 02:10:22,530 --> 02:10:27,720 Adam Curry: you Western Western Australia. Dane Beth ah another 2185 02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:31,680 familiar name tucson arizona row of ducks. 20 escaped Jeremy I'm 2186 02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:37,080 sorry. Jeremy gray. There we go. Uh Waso Oklahoma. 250. longtime 2187 02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:41,850 listener first time donor, please do you do? You've been de 2188 02:10:41,850 --> 02:10:42,390 Deus. 2189 02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:47,850 John C Dvorak: Yes, they invest in Tucson. A tu, tu tu tu tu tu 2190 02:10:47,850 --> 02:10:51,810 Aurora ducks. Heil boys headed to Southern California and 2191 02:10:51,810 --> 02:10:59,640 hosting the 805 pop up meet up at the Galena HG rooftop Bistro 2192 02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:04,740 on Thursday, June 6 from four to 7pm. Join us for libation snacks 2193 02:11:04,740 --> 02:11:07,590 in conversation thank you very courage no jingles Well, karma 2194 02:11:07,590 --> 02:11:11,640 Dame Beth Baroness Baroness of Baja Arizona. 2195 02:11:11,670 --> 02:11:16,470 Adam Curry: Derek Shaq is in Lucerne. Lucerne, Michigan. Rove 2196 02:11:16,470 --> 02:11:19,980 ducks 222 dot 22 Thanks, guys. You're the best John You always 2197 02:11:19,980 --> 02:11:24,660 make me laugh Adam. I'm so happy you found Jesus. I think an ISO 2198 02:11:24,660 --> 02:11:27,930 leaderboard would be fun. Give me a listen to that horn 2199 02:11:27,930 --> 02:11:32,340 followed by the classic Shut up slave. Sama some I missed the 2200 02:11:32,370 --> 02:11:40,440 Shut up slave but we have we love the Shut up slave. Oh my 2201 02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:46,560 god. Slave Yeah, you go. 2202 02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:53,520 John C Dvorak: God Vinny Sinead, an ephah tu tu tu tu tu here's a 2203 02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:57,690 row of ducks. Can we get some general karma? Absolutely. 2204 02:11:58,710 --> 02:12:04,140 Adam Curry: You've got karma. And another row of ducks 222 2205 02:12:04,140 --> 02:12:07,140 from Nancy Nichols in Waco, Texas. Thank you Texas for 2206 02:12:07,140 --> 02:12:09,810 coming out. No notes that will give you a double up karma. 2207 02:12:09,870 --> 02:12:13,440 You've got karma 2208 02:12:16,860 --> 02:12:21,660 John C Dvorak: your bad potato in Havre, Montana. It was so 2209 02:12:21,660 --> 02:12:24,510 what are you drinking? See the juice Fauci wheeze are to deed 2210 02:12:24,510 --> 02:12:27,990 to karma. There's a switch rooms highlighted but you should note 2211 02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:32,790 this is a switcheroo for my son Christian to put him on his path 2212 02:12:32,790 --> 02:12:41,940 to knighthood please de douche bad deed deuced having received 2213 02:12:41,940 --> 02:12:46,290 my signed copy of too many eggs the ABC book and coloring book I 2214 02:12:46,290 --> 02:12:48,990 have to say that gate view publishing delivers an 2215 02:12:48,990 --> 02:12:50,430 outstanding product 2216 02:12:54,030 --> 02:12:55,800 Adam Curry: that's right. Thanks 2217 02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,320 John C Dvorak: for the advice by the way I've been using code 2218 02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:04,230 been Gino everywhere. Pro tip it works exceptionally well at the 2219 02:13:04,230 --> 02:13:08,790 Walmart self checkout go away. Here's your cutter the rich 2220 02:13:08,790 --> 02:13:13,200 savings came with 222 as a producer of the show. This is 2221 02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:16,860 not a donation but rather an investment into the continuation 2222 02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:22,080 of this fine product please be pleased about praise sorry 2223 02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:25,590 praise beat all producers I I think I can speak for the most 2224 02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:29,460 of them when I say we all love you too and really appreciate 2225 02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:32,070 all that you do. I enjoy the different takes you both 2226 02:13:32,070 --> 02:13:39,390 promote. Please keep it going. Sir bad potato. All right. Oh my 2227 02:13:39,390 --> 02:13:40,050 gosh. 2228 02:13:40,380 --> 02:13:42,210 Unknown: Can you see that juice? 2229 02:13:44,490 --> 02:13:51,240 Adam Curry: You've got karma. And I'll do these two in a row 2230 02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:55,860 because neither of them have notes. Although David did say he 2231 02:13:55,860 --> 02:13:57,690 sent to know to look for it. Couldn't find it. Andrew 2232 02:13:57,690 --> 02:14:02,280 Creswick Painesville, Ohio 222. No notes. So a double up karma 2233 02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:10,290 for him. You've got karma. And there's David Popo Narara in New 2234 02:14:10,290 --> 02:14:15,000 South Wales, Australia to 1060 and also for him a double of 2235 02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:16,530 karma. You've got 2236 02:14:18,630 --> 02:14:22,890 John C Dvorak: karma. So now we get to Eli Eli, the coffee guy 2237 02:14:22,890 --> 02:14:28,410 in Bensenville, Illinois. 20602. And he says John, I love the 2238 02:14:28,410 --> 02:14:32,220 good news segment. But if you ever get rid of it, replace it 2239 02:14:32,220 --> 02:14:34,350 with a tip of the day. Yes. 2240 02:14:34,410 --> 02:14:37,650 Adam Curry: Do you have us what we've done? I doing a tip of the 2241 02:14:37,650 --> 02:14:38,280 day today. 2242 02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:39,540 John C Dvorak: I do have a tip of the day. 2243 02:14:39,570 --> 02:14:40,740 Adam Curry: Oh, excellent. 2244 02:14:42,300 --> 02:14:44,880 John C Dvorak: Thanks to a great tip I heard on the show a few 2245 02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:49,500 years ago we recently tried a SOT turn paired with flogger. Ah 2246 02:14:50,550 --> 02:14:52,890 yes, that's the combo one. 2247 02:14:52,890 --> 02:14:54,720 Adam Curry: That's the one it always works. 2248 02:14:55,530 --> 02:14:57,690 John C Dvorak: It's a never a combo I'd normally have gone for 2249 02:14:57,690 --> 02:15:01,530 but we loved it. In fact Thought tours especially if you have a 2250 02:15:01,530 --> 02:15:03,720 good one that's that's just a beauty 2251 02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:06,150 Adam Curry: it's how I got my try this is how I got my final 2252 02:15:06,150 --> 02:15:06,990 and best wife 2253 02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:15,450 John C Dvorak: well that's another tip I'll just say saw 2254 02:15:15,450 --> 02:15:19,410 turn will get you laid. There you go. Can I get a more you 2255 02:15:19,410 --> 02:15:21,960 know jingle for producers looking for a fresh roasted 2256 02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:24,810 coffee by the way delivered to your door with visit gigawatt 2257 02:15:24,810 --> 02:15:28,770 coffee roasters.com and use code ITM for 20% off your order stay 2258 02:15:28,770 --> 02:15:30,840 caffeinated Eli the coffee guy as 2259 02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:32,880 Unknown: the more you know in the morning 2260 02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:37,980 Adam Curry: beautiful Eli thank you we have Eric constable 2261 02:15:37,980 --> 02:15:43,500 Jacksonville Florida night may sir banks wrangler May I please 2262 02:15:43,500 --> 02:15:46,500 have Spanish cucumbers at the roundtable May your exit 2263 02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:52,140 strategy be dying at the mic? That will be dying will pull die 2264 02:15:52,140 --> 02:15:56,580 spit yes we all die spitting into the mic. Erica. 2265 02:15:57,810 --> 02:16:00,930 Jacksonville. Wouldn't it be cool if one of us just died on 2266 02:16:00,930 --> 02:16:02,070 the show alive? 2267 02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:06,330 John C Dvorak: Um yeah, that mean it's a bummer. I mean that 2268 02:16:06,330 --> 02:16:07,710 whether it be 20 years from now 2269 02:16:07,740 --> 02:16:10,530 Adam Curry: yeah, that will be that will be more I can take 2270 02:16:10,530 --> 02:16:16,650 more than 20 if you don't mind. For 98 Thank you Oh, it's 2271 02:16:16,650 --> 02:16:18,360 starting. Thank you ma'am. Have 2272 02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:21,780 John C Dvorak: an MRA and vaccine speeded up a bit there 2273 02:16:21,780 --> 02:16:27,390 you go. Your Linda IUPAC in there she is in Lakewood 2274 02:16:27,390 --> 02:16:31,440 Colorado 200 bucks jobs karma of course for a resume she's writes 2275 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:34,920 that gives us a plug that gets results go to Image makers 2276 02:16:34,920 --> 02:16:37,800 inc.com For all your executive resume and job search needs 2277 02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:43,020 that's image makers Inc with a k.com or find Linda Lou Duchess 2278 02:16:43,260 --> 02:16:48,000 she's now calling herself Linda Lou touches of jobs and writer 2279 02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:51,090 of resumes on the producer list jobs. 2280 02:16:52,290 --> 02:16:53,760 Unknown: Jobs and jobs 2281 02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:02,670 Adam Curry: that she was you put it on now I'm gonna have to put 2282 02:17:02,670 --> 02:17:06,240 her credit like that Linda Lou she inherited Linda is Liu Linda 2283 02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:11,130 loose and now she's Asian. Linda? Yeah, that's great. Well, 2284 02:17:11,130 --> 02:17:13,110 John C Dvorak: it'd be worse if is L e. W. 2285 02:17:14,459 --> 02:17:16,589 Adam Curry: Couple more here and the Associate Executive 2286 02:17:16,589 --> 02:17:22,139 producers. John and Adam $200. from Rio Verde, Arizona. This is 2287 02:17:22,139 --> 02:17:27,089 Sir Ian Pope DC please MO The pope of cycling. I'm an avid 2288 02:17:27,119 --> 02:17:31,169 cyclist, former spin instructor hence the nickname values to 2289 02:17:31,169 --> 02:17:35,219 spin back in the day. I always crack up when you guys try to be 2290 02:17:35,219 --> 02:17:41,009 my nickname. I know I'm now an expat in Portugal. And loving 2291 02:17:41,009 --> 02:17:44,489 every moment of it where all the criminals go to hide out. I'm 2292 02:17:44,489 --> 02:17:47,339 working very hard to become professional, useless human 2293 02:17:47,339 --> 02:17:51,869 resource. I heard you call your call and decide to share some of 2294 02:17:51,869 --> 02:17:56,219 my criminal profiteering and there you go. After all, as per 2295 02:17:56,219 --> 02:17:59,789 atom people that go to Portugal are criminals. Anyways, here's 2296 02:17:59,789 --> 02:18:02,639 the share of my treasure that I humbly offer to keep you around 2297 02:18:02,639 --> 02:18:06,509 for four more years. A heartfelt thank you to both to both of you 2298 02:18:06,539 --> 02:18:10,289 sir eel Pope diseq ciclismo a proud no agenda Blacknight and 2299 02:18:10,289 --> 02:18:14,759 allegedly a criminal of some sort. PS karma is requested. You 2300 02:18:14,759 --> 02:18:17,279 got it, brother. You've got karma. 2301 02:18:19,980 --> 02:18:23,580 John C Dvorak: I will say that Portugal is the place to go. If 2302 02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:27,000 you're on the lam. Well, or if you just want to retire 2303 02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:32,280 someplace cheap. Yeah, it's really a dynamite country. Sir 2304 02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:38,280 Lady Boy in Mount Laurel, New Jersey 200 smokin hot wife 2305 02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:42,540 jingle sorry, John. Shout out to Black Knight their love for 2306 02:18:42,540 --> 02:18:47,220 coming to the south Jersey meetup. Sir Lady Boy formerly 2307 02:18:47,220 --> 02:18:51,390 known as Bobby brindle horse, Mount Laurel, New Jersey 2308 02:18:59,309 --> 02:19:01,769 Adam Curry: Thank you very much, sir. Lady Boy, sir. Mack and 2309 02:19:01,769 --> 02:19:06,959 Dame Lauren aren't Odenton Maryland. podington Oh, Denton. 2310 02:19:07,139 --> 02:19:10,739 200. Sir Mack and Dame Lauren saw the desperate plea via 2311 02:19:10,739 --> 02:19:14,069 LinkedIn. Did you post it on LinkedIn? Yeah. 2312 02:19:14,340 --> 02:19:16,620 John C Dvorak: I've now posted desperate 2313 02:19:16,619 --> 02:19:17,969 Adam Curry: Hey, it worked. It worked. There's 2314 02:19:17,970 --> 02:19:20,730 John C Dvorak: proof that I post that's funny. Well, he's worked 2315 02:19:20,730 --> 02:19:26,970 with her. Yeah. Or him or both of both of them. i i Now repost 2316 02:19:26,970 --> 02:19:32,820 the newsletter on LinkedIn. Yes, I do that excellent. And getting 2317 02:19:32,820 --> 02:19:35,910 mainly because somebody on LinkedIn was I was done they're 2318 02:19:36,900 --> 02:19:39,930 saying yes, I say yes to anybody who wants you should 2319 02:19:40,050 --> 02:19:41,490 Adam Curry: you should post it on tick tock. 2320 02:19:43,080 --> 02:19:46,140 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. I'm thinking about it. But anyway, 2321 02:19:46,140 --> 02:19:50,730 so I somebody said, Rob, we got more reach here with the general 2322 02:19:50,730 --> 02:19:55,410 I'm not gonna reach, reach, reach, you gotta reach 2323 02:19:55,410 --> 02:19:59,610 everybody. You gotta go to Instagram and get reached around 2324 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:08,250 Sir Rain Man in wolf fourth Wolfforth whoa fourth Texas 200 2325 02:20:08,250 --> 02:20:08,670 X's 2326 02:20:08,670 --> 02:20:11,910 Adam Curry: man, Texas Tech shish hottie 2327 02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:15,480 John C Dvorak: am John anatomy genius noodle gun and Fauci 2328 02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:19,020 wheeze I'm overdue for a donation even though I'm on a 2329 02:20:19,020 --> 02:20:25,500 sustaining donation and a night please de douche me you've been 2330 02:20:25,500 --> 02:20:29,670 de deuced just wanted to say thank you both for all that you 2331 02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:34,050 do I'm restarting a new job and Monday in a new industry leaving 2332 02:20:34,050 --> 02:20:40,680 higher education has gone to crap so TPP dot jobs calm would 2333 02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:44,220 be appreciated also my birthday is on June 7 I'll be turning 28 2334 02:20:44,220 --> 02:20:48,630 So please add me to the list. I have to let you know that baby 2335 02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:54,240 making karma works it'll work even better now. My wife and I 2336 02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,880 had our first human resource back in October and we couldn't 2337 02:20:56,880 --> 02:21:00,420 be more blessed thanks again guys. And God bless you both 2338 02:21:00,870 --> 02:21:04,860 Kyle rhymes would mile aka sir Rain Man 2339 02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:08,490 Unknown: in the face with a maneuver gun 2340 02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:20,010 I got the my pasta Glocks locked and loaded. jobs jobs, jobs. 2341 02:21:21,930 --> 02:21:23,850 Jobs, karma. 2342 02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:29,820 Adam Curry: And we see another $200 from Vikon dirty dig banks 2343 02:21:29,820 --> 02:21:34,860 from Washington DC $200 Thanks for the sanity big sales karma 2344 02:21:34,860 --> 02:21:37,290 Vika dirty did bangs of DC 2345 02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:39,000 Unknown: you've got karma. 2346 02:21:42,900 --> 02:21:46,950 John C Dvorak: Jacob Davis see note sent to your email. I 2347 02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:49,260 Adam Curry: looked. I did not see it. Did you see it? 2348 02:21:50,700 --> 02:21:54,060 John C Dvorak: You know, I didn't look so. You read the 2349 02:21:54,060 --> 02:21:56,010 last one. And I'll look at this for this one. 2350 02:21:56,040 --> 02:21:58,560 Adam Curry: Okay, Peter, the cattle farmer is in high 2351 02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:04,740 Farndale in the UK. Bah. Oh, be careful. Be careful that bird 2352 02:22:04,740 --> 02:22:08,940 flu it's a global pandemic, you know, the global pandemic $200 2353 02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:14,670 He says, stay calm Americans eat red meat and animal fat from 2354 02:22:14,670 --> 02:22:18,900 Peter the cattle farmer and hi Farndale, Yorkshire, England. I 2355 02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:21,480 North Yorkshire and I've never heard of Peter the cattle 2356 02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:25,980 farmer. Can you remember what you should? I want to de Lucia? 2357 02:22:28,380 --> 02:22:33,480 De deuced. Just in case, just in case, just in case. Did you find 2358 02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:34,800 anything from Jacob Davis? 2359 02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:39,930 John C Dvorak: I got Mark. I got Taylor. I got 2360 02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:42,660 Adam Curry: no. Okay. Well, Jacob, send it to Adam 2361 02:22:42,660 --> 02:22:45,180 mccurry.com. We'll take care of you. Here's a double up karma. 2362 02:22:45,390 --> 02:22:51,810 John C Dvorak: You've got karma, or better, send it to notes, 2363 02:22:51,810 --> 02:22:52,290 egg, no 2364 02:22:52,290 --> 02:22:55,440 Adam Curry: agenda show.net, the real place you should send it 2365 02:22:55,440 --> 02:22:57,780 and that we should be sending all these notes. And that 2366 02:22:57,780 --> 02:23:00,510 concludes our executive and associated executive donate 2367 02:23:01,110 --> 02:23:05,910 producers of episode 1665. We appreciate all producers who 2368 02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:09,300 send in treasure. Doesn't matter how much it is you just 2369 02:23:09,330 --> 02:23:12,360 determine what the value of the show is to you. You send that to 2370 02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:16,230 us. That's the exchange. That's all it is no other special hoops 2371 02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:18,930 or anything you have to think about. Other than just sending 2372 02:23:18,930 --> 02:23:21,420 back value to the best podcast in the universe. And again, 2373 02:23:21,420 --> 02:23:24,090 thank you to our executive and Associate Executive producers of 2374 02:23:24,090 --> 02:23:30,960 episode 1665. Our formula is this. We go out. We get people 2375 02:23:30,960 --> 02:23:31,410 in the mouth 2376 02:23:43,650 --> 02:23:47,220 and you can go to no agenda donations.com 2377 02:23:48,150 --> 02:23:54,930 John C Dvorak: Now I have second half of show clips. What they 2378 02:23:54,930 --> 02:23:57,120 do, what is 2379 02:23:57,120 --> 02:24:00,810 Adam Curry: this all about? Oh, you're you're you're kowtow into 2380 02:24:07,020 --> 02:24:09,180 Unknown: resources? No, Andrew. 2381 02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:19,560 Adam Curry: This is unexpected. Second half of show. All right. 2382 02:24:19,560 --> 02:24:19,770 I'm 2383 02:24:19,770 --> 02:24:22,530 John C Dvorak: excited. So this is a guy that went in front of 2384 02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:28,770 the Broward County DA you seen this? Yes, of course. I have. 2385 02:24:28,770 --> 02:24:32,280 Yes, of course. This is the Broward County meeting. One. 2386 02:24:32,700 --> 02:24:33,810 Good morning, commissioners. 2387 02:24:34,290 --> 02:24:37,230 Unknown: today. I'm gonna come here asking for your help. But 2388 02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:39,630 first, a little backstory. I think we all remember the 2389 02:24:39,630 --> 02:24:42,570 Challenger explosion that took place in 1986 that tragically 2390 02:24:42,570 --> 02:24:45,930 took the lives of all seven astronauts on board. It launched 2391 02:24:45,930 --> 02:24:48,120 not too far from where we're standing here today. Well, the 2392 02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:50,310 interesting thing is a couple decades later, this thing called 2393 02:24:50,310 --> 02:24:54,090 the internet came about and someone allegedly found almost 2394 02:24:54,090 --> 02:24:57,570 all of those astronauts alive and well, many using the same 2395 02:24:57,570 --> 02:25:01,110 exact names. As you can see here we have challenger astronaut 2396 02:25:01,140 --> 02:25:03,810 Judith Resnick and also the Judith Resnick, Yale Law 2397 02:25:03,810 --> 02:25:07,290 professor, Michael J. Smith, the pilot of the Challenger 2398 02:25:07,290 --> 02:25:10,770 astronaut, and also professor at University of Wisconsin now 2399 02:25:10,770 --> 02:25:15,180 retired Michael J. Smith, Commander, Dix SCOBY, who is now 2400 02:25:15,210 --> 02:25:18,180 president of cows and trees. Now, if you'll notice, they all 2401 02:25:18,180 --> 02:25:23,040 have the exact same faces 30, some odd years later, the same 2402 02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:27,000 exact name, and they're the same age. Now, we all have a 2403 02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:29,970 doppelganger out there, right? No big deal. But to have the 2404 02:25:29,970 --> 02:25:33,540 same face the same age and the same exact name is extremely 2405 02:25:33,540 --> 02:25:37,680 rare. So where I can only find one case in the last 120 years, 2406 02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:39,720 and we're supposed to believe that three people from one 2407 02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:43,320 spaceflight spaceflight have exact look alikes that have the 2408 02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:47,670 same age and same exact names. This ladies and gentlemen is 2409 02:25:47,670 --> 02:25:52,650 beyond statistically impossible. Miss Resnick was questioned at 2410 02:25:52,650 --> 02:25:55,470 Yale by a journalist, and she panicked and ran from the camera 2411 02:25:55,530 --> 02:25:59,070 why? Mr. Michael J. Smith was also question and he said, Yeah, 2412 02:25:59,070 --> 02:26:01,980 we look alike. But that's not me. You can see both of these 2413 02:26:01,980 --> 02:26:04,620 exchanges in a film called level with me and you can be the 2414 02:26:04,620 --> 02:26:05,940 judge. Sir, I'm 2415 02:26:05,940 --> 02:26:09,720 gonna, I'm gonna have to say this is a public comment. I know 2416 02:26:09,720 --> 02:26:11,610 what it is, sir. I'm very familiar with the public 2417 02:26:11,610 --> 02:26:14,520 comment. Okay. And part of the public comment is, is that 2418 02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:17,400 you're only allowed to address things that we have jurisdiction 2419 02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:17,850 over, 2420 02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:20,640 we have not erect request at the end of this that is in your 2421 02:26:20,700 --> 02:26:22,170 circuit, please. Wow, 2422 02:26:22,260 --> 02:26:28,080 Adam Curry: I am really high. This is, this is interesting. 2423 02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:34,380 This has been around for several years. This there's, I think the 2424 02:26:34,380 --> 02:26:37,860 film is referring to I've certainly seen clips of people 2425 02:26:37,860 --> 02:26:40,530 going up to these astronauts saying, Hey, isn't that you? And 2426 02:26:40,530 --> 02:26:43,650 you know, one of those running away and, and one of them stands 2427 02:26:43,650 --> 02:26:45,570 there and just says no, that's not me. It's like, it's 2428 02:26:45,600 --> 02:26:50,430 obviously that person. It is a dynamite is really good for a 2429 02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:52,920 second half of show. Because of research. I'm actually looking 2430 02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:57,000 at being a data to see if we ever discussed it. I don't 2431 02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:02,820 believe so. I'm gonna I'll find something. If we go to clip. 2432 02:27:02,850 --> 02:27:05,850 Yeah, if we did, but we did. If we did, I'll find Oh, I 2433 02:27:05,850 --> 02:27:07,530 John C Dvorak: don't think so. Sure. Let's go to second. 2434 02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:10,140 Unknown: I do. Can we hold the time, please? Just have 2435 02:27:10,140 --> 02:27:15,540 a direct class that. Listen to me. Okay. Very carefully. Mr. 2436 02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:19,050 Richardson, would you give an opinion in regards to this, 2437 02:27:19,050 --> 02:27:21,030 please? Yes, 2438 02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:24,450 public comment is reserved for issues or topics that are under 2439 02:27:24,450 --> 02:27:26,640 the jurisdiction or control the county commission or that are 2440 02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:28,950 relevant to the business of the county commission. So if your 2441 02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:31,890 request at the end is going to explain why that falls into any 2442 02:27:31,890 --> 02:27:34,080 of this, make that request now before you continue? 2443 02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:37,920 Absolutely. So as I was saying, I'll just end it with what I was 2444 02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:41,250 ending with. But the ask is that Miss Pritchett, who knows very 2445 02:27:41,250 --> 02:27:44,040 well about questioning science, whether it be COVID or fluoride? 2446 02:27:44,250 --> 02:27:46,320 I'm just asking you all to question the science here. 2447 02:27:46,470 --> 02:27:50,400 You're Goodson and Pritchett, your district covers the Kennedy 2448 02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:53,430 Space Center, this launched from the Kennedy Space Center, you 2449 02:27:53,430 --> 02:27:56,010 have the ability to help me in sounding the alarm and asking 2450 02:27:56,010 --> 02:27:58,350 the federal government for help. If this is contained in your 2451 02:27:58,350 --> 02:28:00,450 area, I should be able to at least address something that 2452 02:28:00,450 --> 02:28:01,740 happened here. Don't you agree? 2453 02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:03,780 That's not within the jurisdiction or authority of the 2454 02:28:03,780 --> 02:28:04,410 County Commission? 2455 02:28:04,830 --> 02:28:05,700 Thank you very much. 2456 02:28:05,730 --> 02:28:07,890 Well, you let me finish for at least no sir, you're finished. 2457 02:28:08,730 --> 02:28:10,680 Thank you for taking away my freedom of speech. 2458 02:28:11,340 --> 02:28:15,540 I did not take away your freedom of speech today. I don't want to 2459 02:28:15,540 --> 02:28:17,700 hear it from you just because just because the 2460 02:28:19,290 --> 02:28:22,410 topic officers please remove this man from the room. It is 2461 02:28:22,410 --> 02:28:25,350 violating the First Amendment. I didn't violate the First 2462 02:28:25,350 --> 02:28:26,490 Amendment violated the 2463 02:28:26,490 --> 02:28:29,820 rules a limited public forum and the meeting is for the purpose 2464 02:28:29,850 --> 02:28:33,120 of the business of the county commission. It's not for this 2465 02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:33,720 purpose. 2466 02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:36,780 Now if you want to go if you want to go to take him out to 2467 02:28:37,050 --> 02:28:38,760 Officer take him out also. 2468 02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:41,670 Everyone just calm down. They can. 2469 02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:45,090 No, we're leaving willingly. You don't have to remove us. You 2470 02:28:45,090 --> 02:28:47,310 just made a decision about NASA. 2471 02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:54,030 Adam Curry: Yes, I had to adjust your your just your clip there. 2472 02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:56,490 That's a good one. I think you're right. I don't think 2473 02:28:56,490 --> 02:28:59,250 we've ever discussed it. I certainly have seen those clips. 2474 02:28:59,820 --> 02:29:02,130 And it is hilarious. You definitely should see that film. 2475 02:29:02,970 --> 02:29:09,930 Yeah, what I did find, thanks to some handy dandy producers who 2476 02:29:09,930 --> 02:29:14,790 remember everything. The term pre bunk, which Oh good, which 2477 02:29:14,790 --> 02:29:19,170 we were both wild about. When Queen Ursula decides that she's 2478 02:29:19,170 --> 02:29:24,330 going to pre bunk the entire European Union. Turns out, not 2479 02:29:24,330 --> 02:29:28,560 only did we discuss it on Episode 1426, not that long ago, 2480 02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:33,870 just a couple of years back. We even titled The episode 1406 as 2481 02:29:33,870 --> 02:29:35,280 pre bunk. Here's a clip. You 2482 02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:38,700 Unknown: know what we'll still have to see Alyssa. The US is 2483 02:29:38,730 --> 02:29:42,600 clearly trying to pre bunk Russian claim, waiting for 2484 02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:47,550 Russia to act or safety and things. Now, Russia has been 2485 02:29:47,550 --> 02:29:51,630 mocking. They say the US claims are false that the West is 2486 02:29:51,630 --> 02:29:55,650 engaging in hysteria. One Russian officials said dryly 2487 02:29:55,680 --> 02:30:00,120 today that wars in Europe rarely start on Wednesdays. Yeah. I 2488 02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:06,570 Adam Curry: pre bunk. Wow. So this is this is a great time to 2489 02:30:06,570 --> 02:30:11,430 be a podcaster. I cannot believe how quickly mainstream 2490 02:30:11,460 --> 02:30:15,570 broadcasting and five M is devolving into a solid shit 2491 02:30:15,570 --> 02:30:21,510 show. Adam pre Jesus there you go. Very sad something that 2492 02:30:21,510 --> 02:30:25,350 happened last night. I don't know if you picked up on this. 2493 02:30:26,100 --> 02:30:32,640 Alex Jones, who of course not only do I know him Do I like 2494 02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:35,430 him? You've been on his show. I've been on a show several 2495 02:30:35,430 --> 02:30:39,990 times. We have kind of hung out together at Joe's Comedy Club 2496 02:30:39,990 --> 02:30:42,600 when he was there with his with his wife. He's just a lovely 2497 02:30:42,600 --> 02:30:46,350 guy. You know, of course he ran into some problems freedom of 2498 02:30:46,350 --> 02:30:51,540 speech be damned, and he was did an emergency broadcast last 2499 02:30:51,540 --> 02:30:56,610 night. He is convinced that the feds are coming to show to 2500 02:30:56,610 --> 02:31:00,150 change the locks take all of his broadcast equipment and shut him 2501 02:31:00,150 --> 02:31:02,220 down once and for all. 2502 02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:06,270 John C Dvorak: Once and for all. And here's 2503 02:31:06,270 --> 02:31:08,430 Adam Curry: a clip of of this sad moment. 2504 02:31:10,020 --> 02:31:16,350 Unknown: It's all good. It's all up to us now to continue on the 2505 02:31:16,350 --> 02:31:20,220 fight. And I just hope people will take us we should ama Frank 2506 02:31:20,220 --> 02:31:24,990 Sinatra did it my way, but I did it God's way i I've literally 2507 02:31:25,020 --> 02:31:29,790 fought these people from day one knowing I was right. And it 2508 02:31:29,790 --> 02:31:32,670 wasn't me it was all you. But this is probably our last 2509 02:31:32,670 --> 02:31:36,750 broadcast. And to have these demons efforts, they're so 2510 02:31:36,750 --> 02:31:40,890 pathetic. But it's okay. So let's just play the whole Frank 2511 02:31:40,890 --> 02:31:43,860 Sinatra my way. We hope we're back tomorrow. We don't know 2512 02:31:43,860 --> 02:31:47,430 you're bad. But we're we're under a total attack. It's okay. 2513 02:31:47,430 --> 02:31:51,210 I love you so much. And I appreciate it. All the crew are 2514 02:31:51,210 --> 02:31:54,090 all of us are just finishing up right now. Live 2515 02:31:55,530 --> 02:31:58,380 Adam Curry: a life that's quite dramatic. 2516 02:31:58,680 --> 02:32:00,900 John C Dvorak: I've traveled Yeah, well, he's good at being 2517 02:32:00,900 --> 02:32:02,070 dramatic. Well, 2518 02:32:02,070 --> 02:32:05,370 Adam Curry: I hope he isn't shut down. I know he was sleeping at 2519 02:32:05,370 --> 02:32:09,630 the studio. He was not going to leave. And hopefully sort of 2520 02:32:09,630 --> 02:32:12,990 Lucifer can fill us in and let us know what what the latest is 2521 02:32:12,990 --> 02:32:15,150 that would be that will be a real loss. 2522 02:32:15,630 --> 02:32:18,600 John C Dvorak: Yes, that gonna happen. I think that that 2523 02:32:18,600 --> 02:32:19,380 brazen. 2524 02:32:19,470 --> 02:32:22,530 Adam Curry: Oh, wow. But again, the justice system in America. 2525 02:32:24,690 --> 02:32:31,260 Now to prove to prove that we are not just pro Israel AeroBed 2526 02:32:31,260 --> 02:32:34,890 only making excuses for Israel via just protecting them for our 2527 02:32:34,890 --> 02:32:42,690 Zionist overlords. The bad signal went out big, big bat 2528 02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:43,890 signal. I 2529 02:32:43,890 --> 02:32:47,370 Unknown: am the founder of the Swifties for Palestine Instagram 2530 02:32:47,370 --> 02:32:51,150 accounts, I decided to create this account because I realized 2531 02:32:51,180 --> 02:32:59,580 that there are similar over 300 million Swifties worldwide. And 2532 02:32:59,610 --> 02:33:05,520 this global movement, if mobilized in the right way, can 2533 02:33:05,550 --> 02:33:11,820 be an unbelievably powerful force to be reckoned with. And 2534 02:33:11,820 --> 02:33:16,050 just this week in Lisbon, we had someone break the seal, they 2535 02:33:16,050 --> 02:33:21,000 already did a Palestine flag drop and a another girl had a 2536 02:33:21,390 --> 02:33:26,790 poster with Taylor speak now on a watermelon. Gosh, the littlest 2537 02:33:26,790 --> 02:33:33,840 action that she could do a tweet a fundraiser anything is 2538 02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:39,300 literally move mountains and save 1000s of lives with these 2539 02:33:39,300 --> 02:33:40,320 for Palestine. 2540 02:33:41,550 --> 02:33:43,500 John C Dvorak: You know, to be honest about I couldn't 2541 02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:45,120 understand it where she said Oh, 2542 02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:49,440 Adam Curry: yes. Swifties for Palestine and people are holding 2543 02:33:49,440 --> 02:33:53,640 up big banners now. Taylor Swift take a stand. It's going to be 2544 02:33:53,640 --> 02:33:57,330 hard for her because you know, who runs the music business? 2545 02:33:58,320 --> 02:33:59,550 John C Dvorak: Well, in this case, it's 2546 02:33:59,550 --> 02:34:02,190 Adam Curry: going to be really hard. What do you mean in this 2547 02:34:02,190 --> 02:34:02,730 case? 2548 02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:05,640 John C Dvorak: In this case, I think the Jews run the music 2549 02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:06,240 business. 2550 02:34:10,320 --> 02:34:11,880 Adam Curry: I think you're actually right about that. 2551 02:34:12,780 --> 02:34:13,830 John C Dvorak: I mean, come on. 2552 02:34:14,250 --> 02:34:15,810 Adam Curry: I think you're right about that. 2553 02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:18,840 John C Dvorak: Which is fine. Yeah, anybody can run the music 2554 02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:22,020 business. The gays could run the music business. You know, in the 2555 02:34:22,050 --> 02:34:25,410 hip hop arena. This is not a white guy. Run and thanks. What? 2556 02:34:25,830 --> 02:34:32,130 Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Hello. Who? Clive Davis? He's the he's 2557 02:34:32,130 --> 02:34:36,750 the that he was dead. No, but he is gay. If that helps. 2558 02:34:37,230 --> 02:34:38,370 John C Dvorak: Okay, well engagement. 2559 02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:40,290 Adam Curry: And what do the gays run? 2560 02:34:42,090 --> 02:34:47,130 John C Dvorak: Parades, fabulous parades, fabulous 2561 02:34:47,130 --> 02:34:51,510 Adam Curry: parades. Let's just stick with with Israel and 2562 02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:55,710 Palestine for a minute or Hamas for a moment as seems like your 2563 02:34:55,710 --> 02:34:58,110 prognostication may be coming true 2564 02:34:58,140 --> 02:35:00,300 Unknown: for the first time President Biden thing facing 2565 02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:03,750 intense political pressure here at home is revealing details of 2566 02:35:03,750 --> 02:35:07,680 Israel's proposal to Hamas to end the war that exploded on 2567 02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:08,520 October 7. 2568 02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:12,570 This is truly a decisive moment. Here's those made their 2569 02:35:12,570 --> 02:35:18,900 proposal. Hamas says he wants a ceasefire. This deal is an 2570 02:35:18,900 --> 02:35:22,620 opportunity to prove whether they really meet it. Hamas needs 2571 02:35:22,620 --> 02:35:23,490 to take the deal. 2572 02:35:23,850 --> 02:35:27,570 The plan is in three phases, this path is available. 2573 02:35:28,020 --> 02:35:29,850 Once the deal is struck 2574 02:35:30,060 --> 02:35:32,790 a six week full pause of fighting in the region, a 2575 02:35:32,790 --> 02:35:36,360 withdrawal of Israeli troops from populated areas and the 2576 02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:40,110 return of some of the hostages, including women, the elderly, 2577 02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:41,520 and people who are wounded 2578 02:35:41,580 --> 02:35:44,550 hundreds of 1000s of temporary shelters, including housing 2579 02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:48,330 units could be delivered by the international community. All 2580 02:35:48,330 --> 02:35:51,720 that and more would begin immediately. 2581 02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:55,560 The hope is a military ceasefire now would allow negotiators to 2582 02:35:55,560 --> 02:35:58,620 work out the release of all hostages, including male 2583 02:35:58,620 --> 02:36:03,090 soldiers and Israel's full withdrawal from Gaza and allow 2584 02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:07,020 for humanitarian aid. We're talking 600 trucks to make their 2585 02:36:07,020 --> 02:36:10,050 way into Gaza every day for six weeks. 2586 02:36:10,170 --> 02:36:13,440 As long as the mosque lives up to its commitments. A temporary 2587 02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:16,200 ceasefire would become in the words of the pro Israeli 2588 02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:20,490 proposal. The cessation of hostilities permanently and of 2589 02:36:20,490 --> 02:36:21,870 quote, Israeli 2590 02:36:21,870 --> 02:36:24,090 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu releasing a statement 2591 02:36:24,090 --> 02:36:26,610 late this afternoon saying his government is united in the 2592 02:36:26,610 --> 02:36:30,330 desire to return to our abilities as soon as possible to 2593 02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:33,660 achieve this goal. That was his moment and just moments ago for 2594 02:36:33,660 --> 02:36:36,840 President Obama weighing in releasing a statement saying in 2595 02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:39,960 a during ceasefire is something we all should support for the 2596 02:36:39,960 --> 02:36:43,530 sake of Israelis, Palestinians and the world at large. All 2597 02:36:43,530 --> 02:36:44,220 right, go ahead 2598 02:36:44,250 --> 02:36:45,360 John C Dvorak: and the convention he 2599 02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:48,150 Adam Curry: should have mentioned and the convention yes 2600 02:36:48,180 --> 02:36:51,030 John C Dvorak: when he when Biden said unquote, who is he 2601 02:36:51,030 --> 02:36:55,110 quoting it was his idea wasn't it? It was recording himself and 2602 02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:55,890 probably 2603 02:36:56,460 --> 02:36:58,530 Adam Curry: well, no the other he was quoting the other Biden 2604 02:36:59,790 --> 02:37:03,870 so it's fair good. That's fair games fair game. Yeah. I have 2605 02:37:03,870 --> 02:37:06,630 some pretty good AI stuff I'd like to share though. I 2606 02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:09,330 John C Dvorak: got a Gaza clip. No, I'm sorry. Very similar to 2607 02:37:09,330 --> 02:37:12,120 yours. But I wanted to play get it out of here. Okay. And this 2608 02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:15,840 is about the this is the Gaza deal. Biden update. This was on 2609 02:37:15,840 --> 02:37:17,340 PBS yesterday, 2610 02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:20,820 Unknown: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has thrown up 2611 02:37:20,820 --> 02:37:24,540 a hurdle to President Biden's proposed path to ending the war 2612 02:37:24,540 --> 02:37:29,130 in Gaza. He said there can be no permanent ceasefire until Hamas 2613 02:37:29,130 --> 02:37:32,520 has military and governing capabilities are destroyed. No. 2614 02:37:32,550 --> 02:37:35,940 In a statement, Netanyahu said the notion that Israel will 2615 02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:39,240 agree to a permanent ceasefire before these conditions are 2616 02:37:39,240 --> 02:37:43,500 fulfilled is a non starter. On Friday, Mr. Biden said Israel's 2617 02:37:43,500 --> 02:37:47,700 bombardment of Gaza has left Hamas no longer capable of 2618 02:37:47,700 --> 02:37:51,300 another large scale attack on Israel like October 7, and that 2619 02:37:51,300 --> 02:37:55,440 it is time for this war to end. The families of Israelis held 2620 02:37:55,440 --> 02:37:58,710 hostage in Gaza called on both Israel and Hamas to take the 2621 02:37:58,710 --> 02:38:02,640 deal. Hamas said it views the President's proposal positively, 2622 02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:06,510 as do many war weary Gaza residents had that 2623 02:38:07,650 --> 02:38:11,220 this proposal came late but better late than never. We hope 2624 02:38:11,220 --> 02:38:14,400 from God, the American ministration and the European 2625 02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:17,640 community in general, to continue to put pressure on 2626 02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:19,200 Israel for a ceasefire. 2627 02:38:19,290 --> 02:38:22,590 Netanyahu also accepted an invitation from the bipartisan 2628 02:38:22,590 --> 02:38:25,530 congressional leadership to address a joint meeting of the 2629 02:38:25,530 --> 02:38:26,640 House and Senate that 2630 02:38:28,230 --> 02:38:30,930 John C Dvorak: there was no deal. 2631 02:38:31,740 --> 02:38:34,890 Adam Curry: Yeah, he's hell bent on going all the way seems. Yep. 2632 02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:46,230 Ai, ai, ai ai? It seems that AOC? What's her full name again? 2633 02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:49,590 John C Dvorak: Alexandria, Ocasio Cortez, 2634 02:38:49,710 --> 02:38:54,870 Adam Curry: it seems that she really, really, really, really 2635 02:38:55,050 --> 02:38:59,820 wants to have a Taylor Swift AI moment of her own. And I think 2636 02:38:59,820 --> 02:39:00,330 it's coming 2637 02:39:00,360 --> 02:39:04,020 Unknown: over 90% of all the images and video that's being 2638 02:39:04,020 --> 02:39:07,770 developed by AI right now is sexually exploitative and non 2639 02:39:07,770 --> 02:39:11,880 consensual and targeting women. This is sexual violence. Over 2640 02:39:11,880 --> 02:39:14,700 the last couple of months, I've worked behind the scenes with 2641 02:39:14,730 --> 02:39:18,180 phenomenal colleagues in the House and the Senate, from both 2642 02:39:18,180 --> 02:39:21,660 Republican and Democratic parties to start to put an end 2643 02:39:21,660 --> 02:39:25,350 to this, and that is known as the Defiance Act. The defiance 2644 02:39:25,350 --> 02:39:28,830 Act is a bipartisan piece of legislation that we currently 2645 02:39:28,830 --> 02:39:32,310 have introduced in the House and Senate that would update the 2646 02:39:32,310 --> 02:39:36,120 Violence Against Women Act in order to create what is known as 2647 02:39:36,120 --> 02:39:40,380 a civil course of action for victims and survivors of non 2648 02:39:40,380 --> 02:39:45,750 consensual AI. So what does that mean? What that means is that if 2649 02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:51,180 you are a victim or survivor of AI, deep fake pornography, you 2650 02:39:51,180 --> 02:39:54,600 will start to have federal protections where you can begin 2651 02:39:54,600 --> 02:39:59,520 to pursue accountability in court for perpetrators of and 2652 02:39:59,550 --> 02:40:04,290 people who generate perpetrate and spread this kind of imagery 2653 02:40:04,290 --> 02:40:04,890 against you. 2654 02:40:05,160 --> 02:40:06,210 Adam Curry: Wow, 2655 02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:09,270 John C Dvorak: does she have a clue on how the internet works? 2656 02:40:09,330 --> 02:40:10,470 Adam Curry: Clearly not. 2657 02:40:12,150 --> 02:40:16,800 John C Dvorak: Anybody out there go to set your browser for take 2658 02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:18,120 the safe mode or put it 2659 02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:21,720 Adam Curry: on your phasers on stun. If take it off 2660 02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:23,700 John C Dvorak: completely you can do that it's a drop down 2661 02:40:23,700 --> 02:40:28,200 menu say no no care and unfiltered. I don't care. And 2662 02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:34,200 then type in Taylor Swift new AOC AOC or monjas Saint Taylor 2663 02:40:34,200 --> 02:40:37,620 Swift the better stuff is Taylor Swift has been going on longer. 2664 02:40:38,310 --> 02:40:40,650 But our AOC anybody pretty much 2665 02:40:41,820 --> 02:40:42,540 Adam Curry: the vorak 2666 02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:48,300 John C Dvorak: Gross. And so I think Emma Watson's another 2667 02:40:48,300 --> 02:40:53,370 target that I don't know what what attraction who Why was so 2668 02:40:53,370 --> 02:40:59,190 jacked up about her, but she cute, and it's just unbelievable 2669 02:40:59,190 --> 02:41:02,430 the stuff you see, it's just like wow, this is ridiculous. 2670 02:41:02,460 --> 02:41:07,500 What are your mouth about it? What's your mouth? They can't do 2671 02:41:07,500 --> 02:41:08,580 anything about it. 2672 02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:12,780 Adam Curry: No, but this is why I think she wants some of her 2673 02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:14,280 own. She wants that. 2674 02:41:14,280 --> 02:41:17,010 John C Dvorak: You know, this is a funny reverse psychology thing 2675 02:41:17,010 --> 02:41:20,010 you're coming up with here. How come there's not more nude 2676 02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:23,100 pictures? Maybe there's something out there that's real 2677 02:41:25,200 --> 02:41:26,970 Adam Curry: that's my theory about 2678 02:41:26,970 --> 02:41:29,520 John C Dvorak: that. And so you have the idea that oh, they're 2679 02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:33,420 gonna somebody's gonna release this I'm going to do legislation 2680 02:41:33,420 --> 02:41:36,660 quick and then make it look like whatever it is. It's aI again a 2681 02:41:36,660 --> 02:41:38,760 new AI it's not me. Ah 2682 02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:40,560 Adam Curry: ha remember she was an actress 2683 02:41:43,230 --> 02:41:45,990 John C Dvorak: and a bar bartender? Yeah, who knows what 2684 02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:46,590 she did? Hey 2685 02:41:46,590 --> 02:41:47,850 Adam Curry: babe, you want to be in my movie? 2686 02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:53,970 John C Dvorak: Hell yes. But I think that might be more like it 2687 02:41:54,000 --> 02:41:54,090 and 2688 02:41:54,090 --> 02:41:57,000 Adam Curry: we'll we'll see what surfaces Helen toner Do you Do 2689 02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:01,230 you remember the name Helen toner? I do not Helen toner is 2690 02:42:01,230 --> 02:42:07,470 the former board member of open AI the Australian woman who 2691 02:42:07,470 --> 02:42:12,270 speaks with the American accent who I believe she was one of 2692 02:42:12,270 --> 02:42:19,560 those what's the not existential survivalists? No but the what's 2693 02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:20,490 the sex called? 2694 02:42:21,750 --> 02:42:25,650 John C Dvorak: It I can't read it this is not exci li now now 2695 02:42:25,710 --> 02:42:27,150 next live that's one of them. 2696 02:42:27,150 --> 02:42:33,420 Adam Curry: No it's the better living through math Effective 2697 02:42:33,420 --> 02:42:39,180 Altruism Thank you sir. Okay, so this is the SAM bank been freed 2698 02:42:39,180 --> 02:42:43,500 was in this cult? A lot of these you know we've we played clips 2699 02:42:43,500 --> 02:42:47,700 of Bo. orgies they were doing orgies in these cults in San 2700 02:42:47,700 --> 02:42:50,370 John C Dvorak: Francisco. That's altruism had nothing else and uh 2701 02:42:50,370 --> 02:42:52,080 huh. So she got 2702 02:42:52,110 --> 02:42:55,320 Adam Curry: kicked off the board after the true power of the 2703 02:42:55,320 --> 02:43:00,240 board. Satya Nadella from Microsoft said oh no, you don't 2704 02:43:00,750 --> 02:43:05,430 put him back on and so now she's doing some kind of podcast tour 2705 02:43:05,940 --> 02:43:09,420 going around everywhere telling everybody what a liar he is. He 2706 02:43:09,420 --> 02:43:13,740 lies he lies she clearly has never been on a board before. 2707 02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:16,380 John C Dvorak: Now this was you're referring to you said Sam 2708 02:43:16,380 --> 02:43:18,150 bank Minh fried what No, no, 2709 02:43:18,150 --> 02:43:21,030 Adam Curry: this is about Sam Altman. I'm sorry Waldman, but I 2710 02:43:21,090 --> 02:43:27,240 this Effective Altruism included sang Sam Backman freed these 2711 02:43:27,270 --> 02:43:33,000 these are the weirdos that are in the sex cult. And she was one 2712 02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:37,740 of them. She was an effective altruist case continue and sorry 2713 02:43:37,740 --> 02:43:42,150 Anna cute. She got big bedroom eyes. She kind of cute. She she 2714 02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:46,260 might she might have been one of the leaders favorites. I'm just 2715 02:43:46,260 --> 02:43:51,330 thinking because she is a woman. She's a woman scorned right now. 2716 02:43:51,630 --> 02:43:56,280 She appears on I was unaware the TED AI show. Did you even know 2717 02:43:56,280 --> 02:44:00,720 that existed? No. Well, now you do. Here she is Helen toner. And 2718 02:44:00,750 --> 02:44:03,840 this is Sam Altman lies. For years, 2719 02:44:03,840 --> 02:44:06,060 Unknown: Sam had made it really difficult for the board to 2720 02:44:06,060 --> 02:44:10,710 actually do that job by you know, withholding information, 2721 02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:14,160 misrepresenting things that were happening at the company, in 2722 02:44:14,160 --> 02:44:17,760 some cases outright lying to the board. disappoint, everyone 2723 02:44:17,760 --> 02:44:21,300 always says like what give me give me some examples. And I 2724 02:44:21,300 --> 02:44:24,360 can't share all the examples. But to give a sense of sort of 2725 02:44:24,360 --> 02:44:27,000 the kind of thing that I'm talking about is things like you 2726 02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:30,930 know, when Chuck GPT came out in November 2022, the board was not 2727 02:44:30,930 --> 02:44:33,840 informed in advance about that we learned about chatty Beatty 2728 02:44:34,050 --> 02:44:39,510 on Twitter. Sam didn't inform the board that he owned the open 2729 02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:44,550 AI startup fund, even though he constantly was claiming to be an 2730 02:44:44,550 --> 02:44:46,920 independent board member with no financial interest in the 2731 02:44:46,920 --> 02:44:51,750 company. On multiple occasions, he gave us inaccurate 2732 02:44:51,750 --> 02:44:54,960 information about the small number of formal safety 2733 02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:57,990 processes that the company did have in place, meaning that it 2734 02:44:57,990 --> 02:45:01,110 was basically impossible for the board to know Oh how well those 2735 02:45:01,110 --> 02:45:04,410 safety processes were working or what might need to change. And 2736 02:45:04,410 --> 02:45:06,660 then you know, a last example that I can share, because it's 2737 02:45:06,660 --> 02:45:09,270 been very widely reported, relates to this paper that I 2738 02:45:09,270 --> 02:45:12,180 wrote, which has been, you know, I think way overplayed in the 2739 02:45:12,180 --> 02:45:15,330 press. The problem was that after the paper came out, Sam 2740 02:45:15,540 --> 02:45:18,420 started lying to other board members in order to try and push 2741 02:45:18,420 --> 02:45:21,570 me off the board. So it was another example that just like 2742 02:45:21,570 --> 02:45:24,390 really damaged our ability to trust Him and actually only 2743 02:45:24,390 --> 02:45:27,840 happened in late October last year, when we were already 2744 02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:30,930 talking pretty seriously about whether we needed to fire him. 2745 02:45:31,650 --> 02:45:34,680 And so you know, there's more individual examples. And for any 2746 02:45:34,680 --> 02:45:38,340 individual case, Sam could always come up with some kind of 2747 02:45:38,340 --> 02:45:40,110 like, innocuous sounding explanation of why it wasn't a 2748 02:45:40,110 --> 02:45:43,680 big deal, or it misinterpreted or whatever. But the you know, 2749 02:45:43,680 --> 02:45:46,620 the end effect was that after years of this kind of saying, 2750 02:45:46,980 --> 02:45:50,370 all four of us who fired him came to the conclusion that we 2751 02:45:50,370 --> 02:45:53,490 just couldn't believe things that Sam was telling us. And 2752 02:45:53,790 --> 02:45:56,970 that's a completely unworkable place to be in as a board, 2753 02:45:57,120 --> 02:46:00,450 especially a board that is supposed to be providing 2754 02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:03,390 independent oversight over the company, not just like, you 2755 02:46:03,390 --> 02:46:05,760 know, helping the CEO to to raise more money. 2756 02:46:06,900 --> 02:46:10,500 Adam Curry: another nail in the coffin of the AI extravaganza. 2757 02:46:14,580 --> 02:46:19,380 John C Dvorak: She speaks in a pattern that is awkward bursts 2758 02:46:19,410 --> 02:46:24,420 talks forever. Yeah, forever. And I don't know what milieu 2759 02:46:24,420 --> 02:46:28,710 that is. But his Effective Altruism million must be wide. 2760 02:46:28,710 --> 02:46:32,130 Unless I hear somebody else from that same group talk I can can't 2761 02:46:32,130 --> 02:46:33,630 make that generalization. 2762 02:46:34,890 --> 02:46:37,050 Adam Curry: But but she 2763 02:46:37,050 --> 02:46:39,720 John C Dvorak: doesn't sound credible. The way she speaks is 2764 02:46:39,720 --> 02:46:40,530 not credible. 2765 02:46:41,340 --> 02:46:44,190 Adam Curry: Well, we'll see if it's taken as credible. Sam 2766 02:46:44,190 --> 02:46:47,070 Altman is a liar. I believe it. I believe everything she's 2767 02:46:47,070 --> 02:46:51,330 saying. Yeah, I don't please probably also lying about AI. 2768 02:46:53,010 --> 02:46:55,350 John C Dvorak: That it's actually a bunch of Indians. 2769 02:46:56,580 --> 02:46:59,820 Adam Curry: This we know to be true. Now. Let's see what the 2770 02:46:59,820 --> 02:47:04,860 latest breaking news. I mean, if if everybody's excited, it's 2771 02:47:04,860 --> 02:47:07,950 about what Apple will do with AI. Can you feel the excitement? 2772 02:47:07,950 --> 02:47:11,220 John is in the air? Everybody's like, Oh, we've got the new 2773 02:47:11,220 --> 02:47:15,240 Apple developer conference coming up. What AI tools will 2774 02:47:15,240 --> 02:47:16,500 they have? Are you excited? 2775 02:47:17,700 --> 02:47:20,160 John C Dvorak: And they just announced a bunch of stuff. Yes, 2776 02:47:20,220 --> 02:47:24,960 Adam Curry: yes. I have the Bloomberg podcast. And of 2777 02:47:24,960 --> 02:47:28,050 course, Bloomberg, you know, they need to report accurately 2778 02:47:28,050 --> 02:47:31,890 because it's about financial information. And and I think 2779 02:47:31,890 --> 02:47:33,840 they are accurate with their reporting here. 2780 02:47:34,110 --> 02:47:35,820 John C Dvorak: There's a lot of dogs Jide, 2781 02:47:35,820 --> 02:47:39,420 Adam Curry: I'm sure citing exciting things coming up for 2782 02:47:39,450 --> 02:47:42,690 artificial intelligence in your Apple device. 2783 02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:45,360 Unknown: Apple, the developers conference next month, right? 2784 02:47:45,360 --> 02:47:46,080 Big, big, big, 2785 02:47:46,560 --> 02:47:48,180 Adam Curry: big, big, big Johnny Big 2786 02:47:49,350 --> 02:47:51,960 Unknown: Apple Developers Conference next month, right? 2787 02:47:51,960 --> 02:47:55,260 Big, big big. But they're betting on its customer base to 2788 02:47:55,260 --> 02:47:58,470 kind of give it that edge in the AI space. So what they're doing 2789 02:47:58,470 --> 02:48:00,720 is they're taking this different approach to AI, they want to 2790 02:48:00,720 --> 02:48:03,900 focus on the tools that ordinary consumers can use kind of like 2791 02:48:03,900 --> 02:48:06,240 what Tom what you were saying last week, like what does this 2792 02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:11,550 mean for me? I want Mark Gurmann to tell me what's the so what 2793 02:48:11,550 --> 02:48:12,690 and I'm not there yet. 2794 02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:14,520 Yeah. So they're they're doing 2795 02:48:14,520 --> 02:48:17,310 exactly because of what you know, things you're saying. And 2796 02:48:17,310 --> 02:48:19,650 not just you, but a lot of people in this new strategy 2797 02:48:19,650 --> 02:48:22,890 project gray matter. So they have a set of AI tools that the 2798 02:48:22,890 --> 02:48:26,100 company is going to integrate into apps like Safari photos and 2799 02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:28,950 notes, but there's other features, right? They have Siri 2800 02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:32,070 personal assistant, that's gonna get an upgrade series getting an 2801 02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:35,670 upgrade. They have generative AI for emojis with software that 2802 02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:39,330 can create custom emojis on the fly based on what you're 2803 02:48:39,330 --> 02:48:42,930 texting. So if you're texting someone, like, Hey, let's go out 2804 02:48:42,930 --> 02:48:46,260 for dinner for pasta on Friday. A little pasta mode, you will 2805 02:48:46,260 --> 02:48:46,530 like 2806 02:48:48,210 --> 02:48:52,560 make my life is gonna make your life so much better than where 2807 02:48:52,560 --> 02:48:53,430 we are these days. 2808 02:48:53,880 --> 02:48:56,940 But it's just about making things easier for their 2809 02:48:56,940 --> 02:48:57,630 customers. I 2810 02:48:57,630 --> 02:48:59,370 John C Dvorak: don't think that this conference again, the 2811 02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:02,550 developer conference, I guess it's June 7. Yeah, I think 2812 02:49:02,550 --> 02:49:04,950 there's a lot built up in the stock. I think investors want to 2813 02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:08,610 see something transformative as it relates to AI to get that 2814 02:49:08,610 --> 02:49:10,830 bump in the stock. I'm not sure they're gonna get it. 2815 02:49:10,860 --> 02:49:15,720 Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't think so. Either. emojis, 2816 02:49:15,870 --> 02:49:18,780 AI will track what you're writing. And if you say let's go 2817 02:49:18,780 --> 02:49:23,760 get some pasta, it'll show a pasta emoji. Whoa. 2818 02:49:24,840 --> 02:49:28,230 John C Dvorak: That's pathetic. Yep. And the problem of course 2819 02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:31,470 with that is that emoji won't work on any other system. 2820 02:49:32,250 --> 02:49:36,030 Nowadays, emoji emojis are standardized yeah, there's a 2821 02:49:36,030 --> 02:49:40,350 pasta emoji we I know but it did it was just pulling a pasta 2822 02:49:40,350 --> 02:49:44,070 emoji you can do that yourself. You don't need an AI Yes you do. 2823 02:49:44,190 --> 02:49:44,430 You 2824 02:49:44,460 --> 02:49:45,780 Adam Curry: need an AI sticker. 2825 02:49:48,540 --> 02:49:51,750 John C Dvorak: So if it's like just drop it in, already 2826 02:49:51,750 --> 02:49:54,810 established emojis left and right you know there's the dog 2827 02:49:54,810 --> 02:49:59,970 shit. There's no smiling is money. Oop, all that stuff. No. 2828 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:00,480 Looking for? 2829 02:50:01,170 --> 02:50:04,050 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to see this I'm 2830 02:50:04,050 --> 02:50:05,580 gonna be glad my browsers 2831 02:50:05,610 --> 02:50:07,980 John C Dvorak: this this all this great stuff this is I 2832 02:50:08,010 --> 02:50:09,810 include a touchscreen laptop. 2833 02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:13,020 Adam Curry: Oh, I don't think. I don't think so. And therefore 2834 02:50:13,020 --> 02:50:13,860 how about a foldable 2835 02:50:13,860 --> 02:50:15,900 John C Dvorak: phone? There you go. I think a fool you because 2836 02:50:15,960 --> 02:50:18,750 Samsung has been making this phone for years now. The 2837 02:50:18,750 --> 02:50:20,940 foldable phone you're going to have one of those. 2838 02:50:21,090 --> 02:50:23,490 Adam Curry: I've seen a couple of those in the wild one on 2839 02:50:23,490 --> 02:50:26,250 their concert and one on the plane. They're pretty spiffy 2840 02:50:26,310 --> 02:50:30,300 apple. No, no, not Apple. No, they're spiffy. 2841 02:50:30,810 --> 02:50:33,390 John C Dvorak: No, they're JC has one. They're great because 2842 02:50:33,390 --> 02:50:33,630 you have the 2843 02:50:33,630 --> 02:50:36,180 Adam Curry: one that folds up into a like a little like a 2844 02:50:36,180 --> 02:50:37,530 coaster size phone. 2845 02:50:38,340 --> 02:50:40,110 John C Dvorak: It's about a coaster size. When it's folded. 2846 02:50:40,110 --> 02:50:44,400 It's the newest foldable phone little square. It ends up is a 2847 02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:46,950 little square. And it's got a screen on the square. So yeah, 2848 02:50:47,370 --> 02:50:51,600 you can see stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's important for your dynamite 2849 02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:53,520 phone, dynamite 2850 02:50:54,060 --> 02:50:55,080 Adam Curry: phones. 2851 02:50:55,320 --> 02:50:59,640 John C Dvorak: It is a big phone user. As you know, you're not a 2852 02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:05,640 phone user at all. This is absolutely true. My phone that 2853 02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:10,890 my cell phone is in the drawer as we speak 2854 02:51:10,890 --> 02:51:16,260 Adam Curry: speaking of such I want to send out some 2855 02:51:16,260 --> 02:51:21,360 anniversary and jobs karma for Tim from the no agenda phone. 2856 02:51:21,630 --> 02:51:22,020 Jobs, 2857 02:51:22,170 --> 02:51:26,430 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs 2858 02:51:28,680 --> 02:51:31,800 Adam Curry: is like his 10th 10th anniversary and he 2859 02:51:31,800 --> 02:51:37,260 loses his job in believe that. What Yeah, yeah, he'll pick 2860 02:51:37,260 --> 02:51:41,160 something up. He's a smart guy. One last AI clip here. Yeah, 2861 02:51:41,550 --> 02:51:45,330 several people sent me this and I don't know what's wrong with 2862 02:51:45,330 --> 02:51:50,550 you people. People like look at this. These guys look serious. 2863 02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:56,910 They have a lot of plans. Ah, enter brain bridge 2864 02:51:56,970 --> 02:51:59,820 Unknown: introducing brain bridge the world's first 2865 02:51:59,820 --> 02:52:04,140 revolutionary concept for a head transplant machine, which uses 2866 02:52:04,140 --> 02:52:06,960 state of the art robotics and artificial intelligence to 2867 02:52:06,960 --> 02:52:10,560 conduct complete head and face transplantation procedures 2868 02:52:10,650 --> 02:52:15,150 ensuring smooth outcomes and faster recoveries. Because head 2869 02:52:15,150 --> 02:52:19,200 transplants require high speed precision and efficiency brain 2870 02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:23,040 bridge utilizes advanced high speed high precision robotic 2871 02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:27,240 systems to speed up the process, eliminate human error, prevent 2872 02:52:27,240 --> 02:52:31,260 brain cell degradation and ensure seamless compatibility. 2873 02:52:31,500 --> 02:52:34,440 The head transplant procedure involves removing a person's 2874 02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:39,390 entire head containing the current diseased body than 2875 02:52:39,390 --> 02:52:43,050 attaching it to the body of a healthy young brain dead donor. 2876 02:52:43,740 --> 02:52:47,130 Pet transplants could provide individuals with severe medical 2877 02:52:47,130 --> 02:52:51,300 conditions such as terminal cancer, paralysis, spinal cord 2878 02:52:51,300 --> 02:52:55,230 injuries, or neuro degenerative diseases, the opportunity to 2879 02:52:55,230 --> 02:52:57,750 have a fully functional body while preserving their 2880 02:52:57,750 --> 02:53:01,440 consciousness memories and cognitive abilities. And her 2881 02:53:01,440 --> 02:53:02,310 head is gone. 2882 02:53:02,820 --> 02:53:06,150 John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. Very funny. Lumbee Thank you very 2883 02:53:06,150 --> 02:53:06,300 much. Have 2884 02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:08,520 Adam Curry: you ever seen it? Have you seen that it's a slick 2885 02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:12,330 video the video is great. You have to see it. 2886 02:53:13,470 --> 02:53:19,020 John C Dvorak: Send me a link I have a few short clips are here 2887 02:53:19,050 --> 02:53:24,000 this and that. Okay, we gotta we gotta move on. But then, except 2888 02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:26,490 for that maybe we should catch up with the Ukraine a little 2889 02:53:26,490 --> 02:53:29,070 bit. Yes, I think because one thing we haven't discussed is 2890 02:53:29,070 --> 02:53:32,100 the fact that Biden has gone along with Schultz an idiot in 2891 02:53:32,100 --> 02:53:36,630 Germany. Yeah, yeah, you know, we should McCrone started it. We 2892 02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:41,010 should like barrel bomb in Russia. Yeah. And then the 2893 02:53:41,010 --> 02:53:43,950 German guides German Chancellor. Yeah, that's a good idea. And 2894 02:53:43,950 --> 02:53:46,770 then Biden says well, if those guys are doing it, I guess we 2895 02:53:46,770 --> 02:53:50,760 should have give it to you. Okay. And so we end up with a 2896 02:53:50,880 --> 02:53:54,180 you know, this is the way World War One started for anybody who 2897 02:53:54,180 --> 02:53:56,250 wants to look at a little history. Oh, 2898 02:53:56,250 --> 02:53:58,800 Adam Curry: they're even started on Deutsche ravel. I think they 2899 02:53:58,800 --> 02:54:01,380 even talk about the war in Europe. That's what they're 2900 02:54:01,380 --> 02:54:04,410 saying. Now it's the war in Europe. Oh, that's what World 2901 02:54:04,410 --> 02:54:05,760 War Three will look like? 2902 02:54:06,330 --> 02:54:08,700 John C Dvorak: Yeah, World War One started this way. It was 2903 02:54:08,730 --> 02:54:13,560 incremental. It wasn't all hell broke loose. It was one little 2904 02:54:13,560 --> 02:54:17,100 thing it led to another led to another led to another this is 2905 02:54:17,100 --> 02:54:19,770 what we're witnessing. And these these guys running these 2906 02:54:19,770 --> 02:54:25,770 countries including McCrone and Scholes struggle, merch and spy 2907 02:54:25,770 --> 02:54:28,230 and these guys should not be in office. They were trying to kill 2908 02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:33,030 us all. The witch clipper let's go with let's go with Ukraine to 2909 02:54:33,030 --> 02:54:34,050 target Russia 2910 02:54:34,110 --> 02:54:36,630 Unknown: as Ukraine receives more military aid from the US 2911 02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:40,380 and allies. A key question remains can Ukraine use the 2912 02:54:40,380 --> 02:54:44,100 weapons to strike targets inside Russia? Lincoln says that going 2913 02:54:44,100 --> 02:54:48,570 forward, the US will continue to adapt and adjust as necessary. 2914 02:54:48,720 --> 02:54:52,320 He says the US is always making decisions about what's necessary 2915 02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:56,040 to make sure that Ukraine can effectively defend itself. 2916 02:54:56,250 --> 02:54:59,940 Lincoln's comments come as France and Germany said Tuesday 2917 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,840 Ukraine should be allowed to use their weapons against targets 2918 02:55:03,870 --> 02:55:08,190 inside Russia. French President Emmanuel Macron said Ukraine has 2919 02:55:08,190 --> 02:55:12,000 permission to use French long range missiles to target bases 2920 02:55:12,030 --> 02:55:16,050 inside Russia. Macaron stress that Ukraine should be able to 2921 02:55:16,050 --> 02:55:19,860 strike at bases from which Russian missiles are fired. But 2922 02:55:19,860 --> 02:55:23,370 he added that Ukraine should not be allowed to hit other targets 2923 02:55:23,370 --> 02:55:27,870 in Russia, including civilian or other military targets. Yep, 2924 02:55:27,900 --> 02:55:28,590 yeah, this 2925 02:55:28,590 --> 02:55:30,720 Adam Curry: is right. This is not good. 2926 02:55:31,140 --> 02:55:33,030 John C Dvorak: This is not good. It's really bad. And you know 2927 02:55:33,030 --> 02:55:36,810 that the Ukrainians don't care about role well, just they'll 2928 02:55:36,810 --> 02:55:40,650 shoot anything. So let's go right downtown Moscow. Yeah. So 2929 02:55:40,710 --> 02:55:43,590 this is yesterday's story. And this is a Russians know what's 2930 02:55:43,590 --> 02:55:45,840 going on. So they did this. A barrage 2931 02:55:45,840 --> 02:55:49,170 Unknown: of 100 Russian missiles and drones targeted the power 2932 02:55:49,170 --> 02:55:53,100 grid across Ukraine today. At least 19 people were injured 2933 02:55:53,130 --> 02:55:55,800 eight of them children. The attack came as Ukrainian 2934 02:55:55,800 --> 02:55:58,740 president Volodymyr Zelensky is attending a defense summit in 2935 02:55:58,740 --> 02:56:02,040 Singapore. He's trying to convince more Asian and Western 2936 02:56:02,040 --> 02:56:05,640 countries to supply weapons to his country and cut ties with 2937 02:56:05,640 --> 02:56:06,780 Moscow. The 2938 02:56:06,780 --> 02:56:10,050 Adam Curry: word I'm looking for is attack ohms. But I have not 2939 02:56:10,050 --> 02:56:13,440 heard it yet. I don't know why that's been pulled from the 2940 02:56:13,440 --> 02:56:16,320 narrative because those things will actually start world war 2941 02:56:16,320 --> 02:56:20,040 three. If they if they give the attack Ahimsa that actors 2942 02:56:20,040 --> 02:56:25,140 Alinsky that will be very bad. And Biden, as we know, from the 2943 02:56:25,140 --> 02:56:27,990 bill that was passed, signed into law has the discretion at 2944 02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:31,590 the President's discretion. He can give them attack comes. 2945 02:56:32,310 --> 02:56:35,700 Here's the Deutsche Vela report to the war here in Europe now in 2946 02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:38,010 Germany. There you go. You hear it to the war here in Europe. 2947 02:56:38,010 --> 02:56:38,310 Now. 2948 02:56:38,340 --> 02:56:41,550 John C Dvorak: It's the World War here in Europe to the white 2949 02:56:41,550 --> 02:56:45,120 war. They do they love it. These guys are suicidal to 2950 02:56:45,120 --> 02:56:47,580 Unknown: the war here in Europe now in Germany has authorized 2951 02:56:47,580 --> 02:56:51,540 Ukraine to use weapons supplied by Berlin to strike limited 2952 02:56:51,570 --> 02:56:56,040 military targets inside Russia. It marks a policy shift and 2953 02:56:56,040 --> 02:57:00,330 follows a similar us decision to allow Ukraine to use American 2954 02:57:00,330 --> 02:57:04,350 weapons on target Russian soil. The looser restrictions only 2955 02:57:04,350 --> 02:57:07,380 apply to the eastern Harkey region, where Ukraine is 2956 02:57:07,380 --> 02:57:11,190 struggling to hold off Russia's greatest advances. Germany 2957 02:57:11,190 --> 02:57:14,610 has become the latest NATO country to allow Kyiv to use 2958 02:57:14,610 --> 02:57:18,660 weapons supplied by Berlin for limited strikes inside Russia. 2959 02:57:20,700 --> 02:57:23,790 In recent weeks, Russia has prepared coordinated and carried 2960 02:57:23,790 --> 02:57:26,730 out attacks from positions in the heart of areas, in 2961 02:57:26,730 --> 02:57:29,820 particular from the directly adjacent Russian border region 2962 02:57:29,880 --> 02:57:32,610 combines them together. We're convinced that Ukraine has the 2963 02:57:32,610 --> 02:57:35,400 right under international law to defend itself against these 2964 02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:36,750 attacks. Via 2965 02:57:38,220 --> 02:57:41,790 Germany's decision follows a similar one from the US. 2966 02:57:42,120 --> 02:57:46,500 Americans can now be used to come to Russian attacks near the 2967 02:57:46,500 --> 02:57:47,640 Hartke Friesian. 2968 02:57:48,720 --> 02:57:50,430 Adam Curry: What's with this Ukraine? 2969 02:57:51,090 --> 02:57:51,900 John C Dvorak: Ukraine. 2970 02:57:51,930 --> 02:57:54,930 Adam Curry: You are calling it you will crane and how's the 2971 02:57:55,740 --> 02:57:58,320 Ukraine? Not my crane Ukraine? 2972 02:57:59,580 --> 02:58:01,860 John C Dvorak: The BB sloths that report from that's dodge 2973 02:58:01,860 --> 02:58:03,780 Avella. Interesting. 2974 02:58:03,810 --> 02:58:05,850 Adam Curry: Here's the BBC it was shows 2975 02:58:05,850 --> 02:58:08,730 John C Dvorak: that I don't believe that the order the 2976 02:58:08,730 --> 02:58:10,230 timeframe? The chronology is 2977 02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:13,260 Adam Curry: correct. Of course not. But But Germany's getting 2978 02:58:13,260 --> 02:58:15,870 in the fight. Now. That's the idea of the war in Europe. 2979 02:58:16,710 --> 02:58:19,800 John C Dvorak: But what's your theory or somebody we discussed 2980 02:58:19,800 --> 02:58:23,490 the possibility to blame it on terrible thing is set up by us 2981 02:58:23,520 --> 02:58:26,370 to get your ball you know, rub alized Yes. 2982 02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:30,090 Adam Curry: Hello. Hello. And with Germany at the center 2983 02:58:30,180 --> 02:58:37,440 again. Again, again, Ukraine again. Here's the BBC, 2984 02:58:37,470 --> 02:58:42,270 Unknown: the reaction has been quite angry from senior Russian 2985 02:58:42,270 --> 02:58:46,350 officials, Dmitry Medvedev, who was former Russian president and 2986 02:58:46,590 --> 02:58:49,860 now deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council. He 2987 02:58:49,860 --> 02:58:53,970 wrote on social media that Russia views any long range 2988 02:58:53,970 --> 02:58:58,290 weapons passed to Ukraine by the West as weapons controlled by by 2989 02:58:58,290 --> 02:59:01,530 NATO personnel and therefore views NATO countries as 2990 02:59:01,530 --> 02:59:05,010 participating in the war. He had this warning of Russian 2991 02:59:05,010 --> 02:59:08,040 retaliatory strikes on on military hardware on sites, 2992 02:59:08,460 --> 02:59:12,420 soldiers in NATO countries. And he said that the current armed 2993 02:59:12,420 --> 02:59:14,700 conflict with the West is developing according to the 2994 02:59:14,700 --> 02:59:19,230 worst case scenario. And he suggested that more Russia could 2995 02:59:19,230 --> 02:59:22,950 use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine saying this is 2996 02:59:22,950 --> 02:59:24,600 not a nuclear bluff. 2997 02:59:24,810 --> 02:59:27,630 So that could be interpreted as a change of tone. 2998 02:59:28,170 --> 02:59:31,860 Well, you have to remember that nuclear saber rattling is not 2999 02:59:31,860 --> 02:59:35,820 new. I mean, we've heard so much over the last two years plus 3000 02:59:35,940 --> 02:59:39,570 from Mr. Medvedev and from other Russian officials from President 3001 02:59:39,570 --> 02:59:43,860 Putin as well. And you could construct an argument that says 3002 02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:47,610 they've been saying this kind of thing since the very beginning. 3003 02:59:47,820 --> 02:59:51,960 So is this simply a bluff? But I think the Russians in the last 3004 02:59:51,960 --> 02:59:55,680 few days have been going out of the way to try to make the 3005 02:59:55,770 --> 02:59:59,460 argument that no this is not a bluff, that they could be put 3006 02:59:59,460 --> 03:00:02,520 into in a situation where they have to respond. 3007 03:00:02,880 --> 03:00:07,470 Adam Curry: I'm going to visit my daughter in two weeks. Got 3008 03:00:07,470 --> 03:00:10,320 that no agenda meet, how can we please hold off a world war 3009 03:00:10,320 --> 03:00:13,620 three until I'm back. And maybe I can grab my daughter and bring 3010 03:00:13,620 --> 03:00:17,640 her with me. These people are crazy. But you know, it's it 3011 03:00:17,640 --> 03:00:20,880 technically. It's not really Russia, there'll be shooting 3012 03:00:20,880 --> 03:00:23,640 these long range weapons out, or is it the way 3013 03:00:23,640 --> 03:00:26,850 Unknown: Moscow sees it? Crimea is Russian territory, all those 3014 03:00:26,850 --> 03:00:30,870 four Oblast that it is invaded and partially occupied. Done yet 3015 03:00:30,870 --> 03:00:34,650 Luhansk Hassan ends up Russia, it considers to be a part of the 3016 03:00:34,650 --> 03:00:37,290 territory of the Russian Federation. That's not the way 3017 03:00:37,290 --> 03:00:40,290 the rest of most of the rest of the world sees it. So 3018 03:00:40,620 --> 03:00:44,910 theoretically, those weapons that already been deployed to 3019 03:00:44,910 --> 03:00:48,840 hit Russian targets in those occupied areas of Ukraine are 3020 03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:52,350 hitting Russian soil. So you could say in a way, nothing is 3021 03:00:52,350 --> 03:00:54,870 really changing. What I think the wet Yeah. 3022 03:00:56,040 --> 03:00:59,640 Adam Curry: No, yeah, that's already kind of Russia. So you 3023 03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:02,490 know, nothing's changed. This is a setup here. Give it to the 3024 03:01:02,490 --> 03:01:04,080 Russians, man, it'll end it 3025 03:01:04,350 --> 03:01:09,300 Unknown: would be very keen to avoid is seeing not just Western 3026 03:01:09,300 --> 03:01:13,050 supplied weapons, but any powerful Ukrainian weapons being 3027 03:01:13,050 --> 03:01:18,930 used to hit a strategic target, say, Moscow, the Kremlin. You 3028 03:01:18,930 --> 03:01:22,860 know, Ukrainian drones are hitting Russian oil refineries 3029 03:01:22,860 --> 03:01:26,100 deep within Russia. The US doesn't like that, because for 3030 03:01:26,100 --> 03:01:29,700 started, restricts the amount of refined oil that's coming onto 3031 03:01:29,700 --> 03:01:32,280 the world market and therefore drives prices up which isn't 3032 03:01:32,280 --> 03:01:35,730 good for us consumers at the pumps, but it also worries it 3033 03:01:36,030 --> 03:01:40,440 about escalation. So far, the West has called Putin's bluff, 3034 03:01:40,560 --> 03:01:44,070 and he's turned out to have a lot of empty threats. But sooner 3035 03:01:44,070 --> 03:01:47,580 or later the fear is I think he will retaliate in some form. Oh, 3036 03:01:47,580 --> 03:01:50,730 Adam Curry: well, just just lovely. And of course, there is 3037 03:01:50,730 --> 03:01:57,120 an election taking place in the UK. And well, if you thought 3038 03:01:57,120 --> 03:02:00,390 McCrone was nuts, how about trying to get elected on this 3039 03:02:00,390 --> 03:02:01,200 platform? 3040 03:02:01,350 --> 03:02:04,200 Unknown: The UK election campaign is one week old now. 3041 03:02:04,200 --> 03:02:07,380 And Rishi said ex government has got off to a rather lackluster 3042 03:02:07,380 --> 03:02:11,220 start. So next man gamba is introducing military service for 3043 03:02:11,220 --> 03:02:14,910 young people, a move that his old master had previously ruled 3044 03:02:14,910 --> 03:02:18,810 out and the former military chief has called bonkers. The 3045 03:02:18,810 --> 03:02:21,840 Tories are expected to lose July for its election to care 3046 03:02:21,840 --> 03:02:23,190 starburns Labour Party 3047 03:02:23,400 --> 03:02:25,170 Adam Curry: bonkers is right. 3048 03:02:26,280 --> 03:02:29,340 John C Dvorak: Bikers that gets rolling the election. I mean, we 3049 03:02:29,340 --> 03:02:33,000 already knew that the labor is going to kick ass in this next 3050 03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:36,120 election in England and we've talked about this before. I 3051 03:02:36,120 --> 03:02:41,040 think I mentioned the newsletter Hey, my my Andrew Loski is a 3052 03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:44,850 friend of mine writer and in London, the red fighter he 3053 03:02:44,850 --> 03:02:48,570 spotted all these ways worse for the independent are the guides 3054 03:02:48,600 --> 03:02:52,470 want to telegraph I don't know he's writing for someone. And 3055 03:02:52,470 --> 03:02:55,380 he's always if he has a good column he always sends sends it 3056 03:02:55,380 --> 03:03:00,750 to me. But he's kind of always very accurate about this stuff. 3057 03:03:00,990 --> 03:03:04,290 And he says the laborers is going to kill these guys and the 3058 03:03:04,320 --> 03:03:06,930 lectures they just have for all these mayors as all the labor 3059 03:03:06,930 --> 03:03:11,310 guys taken over the Tories the Conservatives has screwed up so 3060 03:03:11,310 --> 03:03:14,670 bad yeah. And this Rishi guy's an idiot that he 3061 03:03:14,670 --> 03:03:16,380 Adam Curry: doesn't want him because he doesn't want to be 3062 03:03:16,380 --> 03:03:18,840 the prime minister during the war. 3063 03:03:20,550 --> 03:03:22,440 John C Dvorak: Probably a good idea. Yeah. 3064 03:03:24,540 --> 03:03:29,160 Adam Curry: Jesus come soon. If so to climate have to climate 3065 03:03:29,160 --> 03:03:33,150 change, clearly ease to climate change Eclipse, then I'm done 3066 03:03:33,150 --> 03:03:33,720 for today. 3067 03:03:34,320 --> 03:03:39,360 John C Dvorak: Climate change I have Do I have anything? I don't 3068 03:03:39,360 --> 03:03:43,050 think so. I have a couple I had the Mexico elections which has 3069 03:03:43,050 --> 03:03:48,180 had taken place as we speak. Oh, how boring. No, it's gonna be a 3070 03:03:48,180 --> 03:03:51,750 big deal. They got two women running against each other. And 3071 03:03:51,750 --> 03:03:54,180 the Mexican corruption is out of control. These are 3072 03:03:54,180 --> 03:03:57,300 Adam Curry: long clips. Yeah, I know what's gonna happen. You're 3073 03:03:57,300 --> 03:04:03,270 gonna be like, too long, man. You want to tell me what you 3074 03:04:03,270 --> 03:04:04,980 want to play. Play. 3075 03:04:05,040 --> 03:04:07,110 John C Dvorak: The election, Mexico elections fought the 3076 03:04:07,110 --> 03:04:09,300 fifth clip play the last clip rule 3077 03:04:09,300 --> 03:04:10,560 Adam Curry: going all the way for the jugular. 3078 03:04:10,590 --> 03:04:12,630 Unknown: We mentioned that this campaign season has been 3079 03:04:12,660 --> 03:04:15,450 exceptionally violent. How has that played into this election? 3080 03:04:15,450 --> 03:04:18,660 How is it affected, especially in those many local races that 3081 03:04:18,660 --> 03:04:19,470 are taking place? 3082 03:04:19,590 --> 03:04:23,160 Well, we already saw a sign of organized crime muscling its way 3083 03:04:23,160 --> 03:04:27,720 into local and state political processes in Mexico's 2021 3084 03:04:27,930 --> 03:04:30,930 midterm elections. And then it happened again in two key 3085 03:04:30,930 --> 03:04:33,930 gubernatorial races on the border with the United States 3086 03:04:33,930 --> 03:04:36,900 state of Tamaulipas in the state of Ohio, which is one of the 3087 03:04:36,900 --> 03:04:41,130 most violent wracked states in Mexico. So the big question mark 3088 03:04:41,130 --> 03:04:45,420 is a whether we will see signs of violence on Sunday, and to 3089 03:04:45,420 --> 03:04:48,330 the most important issue is whether organized crime will 3090 03:04:48,420 --> 03:04:52,650 seek to whip or suppress the vote on behalf of Medina, come 3091 03:04:52,650 --> 03:04:54,420 Sunday. Wow. 3092 03:04:55,020 --> 03:04:56,220 Adam Curry: And that's today 3093 03:04:57,390 --> 03:04:58,770 John C Dvorak: is happening as we speak. 3094 03:04:59,370 --> 03:05:04,260 Adam Curry: So One of two women sorry, one of two women will 3095 03:05:04,260 --> 03:05:05,340 win. That's the idea. 3096 03:05:05,820 --> 03:05:07,740 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's two women running against each other 3097 03:05:07,740 --> 03:05:12,990 one of them's part of the obrigada door faction is that 3098 03:05:12,990 --> 03:05:17,250 which is totally corrupt and she's running on she'll win and 3099 03:05:17,250 --> 03:05:20,310 then the other one is going to crack down on crime now she'll 3100 03:05:20,310 --> 03:05:23,220 she's not gonna get in now because nobody wants to they 3101 03:05:23,280 --> 03:05:28,140 take the Mexican elections are rigged. Okay, let's go 3102 03:05:29,910 --> 03:05:31,920 Adam Curry: to they have dominion voting machines. 3103 03:05:34,050 --> 03:05:36,300 John C Dvorak: Doesn't make any difference that that that's just 3104 03:05:36,300 --> 03:05:38,280 a red herring of facts. 3105 03:05:38,280 --> 03:05:43,110 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I happen to have a Mexico climate change 3106 03:05:43,110 --> 03:05:47,610 clip. How about that? Isn't that great? All right. I knew you'd 3107 03:05:47,610 --> 03:05:48,060 like that. 3108 03:05:48,090 --> 03:05:50,910 Unknown: across Mexico. In the poorest areas of its major 3109 03:05:50,910 --> 03:05:53,940 cities, people face a common problem, a lack of clean water. 3110 03:05:54,150 --> 03:05:57,570 60% of the country is in drought in areas like this lack the 3111 03:05:57,570 --> 03:06:00,480 proper infrastructure to get adequate supply to people on a 3112 03:06:00,480 --> 03:06:03,630 daily basis. Another problem is that he Awana city that we're in 3113 03:06:03,630 --> 03:06:06,330 right now, it's the last stop on the Colorado River, which serves 3114 03:06:06,330 --> 03:06:09,810 40 million people in seven US states and two here in Mexico. 3115 03:06:09,840 --> 03:06:12,360 Do you want to successive governments have failed to plan 3116 03:06:12,360 --> 03:06:15,360 for diminishing supply in the region. But there's an even more 3117 03:06:15,360 --> 03:06:18,810 drastic situation in the capital Mexico City home to 22 million 3118 03:06:18,810 --> 03:06:21,900 people there 90% of that city just facing severe drought 3119 03:06:21,960 --> 03:06:23,430 driven by climate change. There 3120 03:06:23,430 --> 03:06:27,720 Adam Curry: it is. I like the tagline. Whatever it is report, 3121 03:06:27,720 --> 03:06:31,740 report report report driven by climate change. Yep. Intel 3122 03:06:31,770 --> 03:06:35,670 Inside driven by climate change. This is the last one for me. 3123 03:06:36,180 --> 03:06:40,620 Because I realize now I've been barking up the wrong tree. I 3124 03:06:40,620 --> 03:06:46,320 have been looking at how carbon credits and trading carbon 3125 03:06:46,320 --> 03:06:51,840 credits, it seems like that was all a red herring. The carbon 3126 03:06:51,840 --> 03:06:59,940 reserve has verified now the Toko to CEO. And it turns out 3127 03:07:00,300 --> 03:07:06,420 that carbon is actually going to be our new money. At least this 3128 03:07:06,420 --> 03:07:09,810 with this Toko. And this carbon reserve, which I guess is you 3129 03:07:09,810 --> 03:07:14,220 know, there they will be creating the the Toko money, 3130 03:07:14,850 --> 03:07:17,460 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna use a graphite pencil. Well, 3131 03:07:18,330 --> 03:07:20,940 Adam Curry: the concept here is if I understand that I have a 3132 03:07:20,940 --> 03:07:27,240 promotional video, the concept is that you buy at your Toko, 3133 03:07:27,270 --> 03:07:31,950 which is backed by each Toko is backed by a ton of carbon 3134 03:07:31,980 --> 03:07:37,110 credits, or just carbon, I'm not sure. Listen to this. Every day, 3135 03:07:37,140 --> 03:07:41,280 Unknown: we create co2 emissions that warm the planet. And the 3136 03:07:41,280 --> 03:07:44,550 more the world develops, the tougher things become for 3137 03:07:44,550 --> 03:07:50,100 nature. By changing the way we think about money, we can create 3138 03:07:50,130 --> 03:07:54,330 a system where the environment and economies thrive because of 3139 03:07:54,330 --> 03:07:59,790 each other, not in spite of each other. What if removing carbon 3140 03:07:59,790 --> 03:08:05,790 from the atmosphere was as easy as paying for your coffee? We 3141 03:08:05,790 --> 03:08:11,340 can with Toko. Toko is a currency that removes carbon 3142 03:08:11,340 --> 03:08:16,500 from the atmosphere. Whether you spend it on stuff, trade it or 3143 03:08:16,500 --> 03:08:20,130 save it to offset your carbon footprint, it's all does the 3144 03:08:20,130 --> 03:08:23,970 same thing. It creates more demand for carbon reduction. 3145 03:08:24,690 --> 03:08:28,620 Each Toko in circulation is represented by one tonne of 3146 03:08:28,620 --> 03:08:32,370 carbon removed from the atmosphere and held in a central 3147 03:08:32,370 --> 03:08:37,290 reserve on behalf of all Toko users. It's a way to turn 3148 03:08:37,320 --> 03:08:44,670 economic activity into environmental wealth. It's a way 3149 03:08:44,670 --> 03:08:47,880 for communities to address together and solve the climate 3150 03:08:47,880 --> 03:08:55,350 crisis. It's money as tons of carbon, download the telco 3151 03:08:55,350 --> 03:08:58,380 wallets and start making a difference with every 3152 03:08:58,380 --> 03:09:03,810 transaction. We can take action against climate change. We can 3153 03:09:04,170 --> 03:09:04,980 with Toko 3154 03:09:06,240 --> 03:09:07,830 John C Dvorak: you can you idiot. 3155 03:09:08,520 --> 03:09:13,080 Adam Curry: Well, actually the choco wallet already has 3156 03:09:13,110 --> 03:09:17,580 partners like Airbnb you can pay for your Airbnb with toco toco 3157 03:09:17,790 --> 03:09:20,910 John C Dvorak: toco Yeah, we have Tokota we have climate 3158 03:09:20,910 --> 03:09:24,480 change meets Bitcoin. Yes. The marrow. Yeah. 3159 03:09:25,590 --> 03:09:32,130 Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. It's beautiful. Environmental wealth, 3160 03:09:32,130 --> 03:09:35,460 John. We can build environmental wealth together. We should be 3161 03:09:35,460 --> 03:09:37,710 accepting tacos for this very show. 3162 03:09:38,640 --> 03:09:44,040 Unknown: Yes. No. I'm gonna show my school by donating to no 3163 03:09:44,040 --> 03:09:47,070 agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, 3164 03:09:47,070 --> 03:09:47,760 that'd be fun 3165 03:09:54,960 --> 03:09:59,490 Adam Curry: and we have some producers to thank from $50 up 3166 03:09:59,490 --> 03:10:03,270 to the The Associate Executive level, we will mention them by 3167 03:10:03,270 --> 03:10:05,970 name and location. Of course, if there's something interesting, 3168 03:10:05,970 --> 03:10:09,390 we'll always break for that and throw it out. And again, we 3169 03:10:09,390 --> 03:10:12,510 remind you that we appreciate all producers with the no agenda 3170 03:10:12,510 --> 03:10:15,330 show. Even those who do not want to be mentioned for reasons of 3171 03:10:15,330 --> 03:10:18,030 anonymity under 50. Nothing is mentioned and of course, anyone 3172 03:10:18,240 --> 03:10:21,270 on the sustaining donations is a big help. You can set it up 3173 03:10:21,270 --> 03:10:25,110 yourself. It just repeats whatever you want it to be daily 3174 03:10:25,110 --> 03:10:30,000 scholey. Monthly, Quarterly, up to, you know, agenda 3175 03:10:30,000 --> 03:10:32,850 donations.com. John, take us through to the 50s Please. 3176 03:10:33,030 --> 03:10:35,850 John C Dvorak: We have a lot of people that contributed today. 3177 03:10:37,380 --> 03:10:45,750 Starting with Kevin redacted in Maumelle, Arkansas 157 97 Matt 3178 03:10:45,780 --> 03:10:53,550 Lamar in L Word, Elwood, Illinois 150 33 I need some 3179 03:10:53,550 --> 03:10:56,190 karma at the end for his business. Dorothy, 3180 03:10:56,220 --> 03:10:57,150 Adam Curry: she wrote 3181 03:10:58,260 --> 03:11:03,960 John C Dvorak: in Corvallis, Oregon 140 43 Andrew J. An Iowa 3182 03:11:03,960 --> 03:11:08,640 City Iowa one 4008. He needs some house selling Carmo. Give 3183 03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:12,390 that at the end. If you write it down. I'm Gerald small and 3184 03:11:12,390 --> 03:11:18,420 Gilbert Arizona one 3003. Big Ken Weinstock in Tucker, 3185 03:11:18,420 --> 03:11:24,120 Georgia. 12345 Baronet tests Sal salty in Manchester, New 3186 03:11:24,120 --> 03:11:31,860 Hampshire. 12345 sir Pete pate in Amsterdam 12345 You'll be 3187 03:11:31,860 --> 03:11:35,040 seeing him probably I look forward to it. And by the way, I 3188 03:11:35,040 --> 03:11:38,100 went to the Albany meetup it was kind of was it How was it? It 3189 03:11:38,100 --> 03:11:42,030 was kind of a dud this was the big get John out of the house 3190 03:11:42,030 --> 03:11:46,410 meet up man. I guess nobody cares. But I went to it and I we 3191 03:11:46,620 --> 03:11:49,260 did get some donations which I'll bring into the next show. 3192 03:11:49,260 --> 03:11:52,830 I'm not gonna discuss them today's got enough to do. But 3193 03:11:52,830 --> 03:11:56,700 next show. Everyone gets their credit. Dame a mani pedi in 3194 03:11:56,700 --> 03:12:04,230 Florence, Oregon 12233. David Britton is Springfield, 3195 03:12:04,260 --> 03:12:07,290 Illinois. Yeah, the Albany we have is all the regulars. I'd 3196 03:12:07,290 --> 03:12:11,850 like everybody there I've seen before everyone. But including, 3197 03:12:12,450 --> 03:12:14,040 I finally figured out who the spook was. 3198 03:12:14,670 --> 03:12:17,070 Adam Curry: Well, you'll tell us on Thursday, I won't 3199 03:12:19,170 --> 03:12:23,370 John C Dvorak: let him think he's getting away with it. David 3200 03:12:23,370 --> 03:12:30,990 Britton in Springfield, Illinois. 115 Marnix cart cart 3201 03:12:31,590 --> 03:12:34,650 in Den Haag, the Netherlands he 3202 03:12:34,650 --> 03:12:38,670 Adam Curry: actually says he still downloads the mp3 with G 3203 03:12:38,670 --> 03:12:39,240 Potter. 3204 03:12:40,290 --> 03:12:43,680 John C Dvorak: Wow. Wow. hopping into his dumb phone. Yeah. 3205 03:12:43,680 --> 03:12:47,070 Adam Curry: Is Cat B 40. Nice. Old school broke. I hope you 3206 03:12:47,070 --> 03:12:47,850 come to the meetup. 3207 03:12:50,550 --> 03:12:53,340 John C Dvorak: He says Yeah, it's interesting. Anyway, he's 3208 03:12:53,340 --> 03:13:02,310 in 111 11. He gave 111 11 And we have a Dutch name even though 3209 03:13:02,310 --> 03:13:05,250 he's in Bristol, Tennessee, which is John gleyber 3210 03:13:05,250 --> 03:13:07,080 Adam Curry: hollyball. Which means Hey, farmer, 3211 03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:13,440 John C Dvorak: the hay farmer from Tennessee 111. Kyle tack in 3212 03:13:13,470 --> 03:13:18,480 Yankton, South Dakota. 111 John O'Neill and College Station 3213 03:13:18,480 --> 03:13:26,220 Texas. 105 69. He needs a D douching. You've been D deuced. 3214 03:13:26,850 --> 03:13:34,410 And he needs to call out Vance K as a douchebag. Baron Timothy 3215 03:13:34,410 --> 03:13:40,410 brochures in Cookeville, Tennessee 105 35 Samantha Simone 3216 03:13:40,410 --> 03:13:45,000 in 105 35. Eric the grease monkey in Concord, Virginia 3217 03:13:45,000 --> 03:13:48,750 105 35. These are $100 donation they picked up the fees. 3218 03:13:49,230 --> 03:13:53,610 Anonymous in Sumter South Carolina 105 35 James zoo call 3219 03:13:53,970 --> 03:13:59,490 Beverly Hills 105 35 to Cesar gray Blanco in Bellevue, 3220 03:13:59,490 --> 03:14:05,670 Washington. 105 35 Christopher Eisenhardt new brown fells 3221 03:14:05,700 --> 03:14:15,600 Texas. 105 35. Get Sarah Walker in new Ipswich, New Hampshire. 3222 03:14:16,110 --> 03:14:21,300 105 35 A lot of these Yeah. Greg Hart lob in Cincinnati 105 35. 3223 03:14:21,300 --> 03:14:26,520 James greeting or getting James geeting in Addison, Texas, 3224 03:14:26,520 --> 03:14:30,090 another Texan 105 35 And he 3225 03:14:30,840 --> 03:14:34,860 Adam Curry: he says You guys are the best have been for years of 3226 03:14:34,860 --> 03:14:37,860 my net worth more. I would give you more. That's how it works as 3227 03:14:37,860 --> 03:14:39,960 value for value. That's what you can give. That's what's 3228 03:14:39,960 --> 03:14:43,050 important. Stay with it. And we forgive Adam for his occasional 3229 03:14:43,050 --> 03:14:47,160 oversights. Okay, what was it like what? I don't know there 3230 03:14:47,160 --> 03:14:47,820 are occasional 3231 03:14:48,840 --> 03:14:52,800 John C Dvorak: Geron Anderson in Glendale, California 105 35 3232 03:14:53,520 --> 03:15:03,210 William Elliot in a kawaii 105 35 and kind of pronounce 3233 03:15:03,210 --> 03:15:09,030 Hawaiian names Phil Barnett in Brentwood, Tennessee. $100.01 3234 03:15:09,270 --> 03:15:15,420 Baron lattic in in Houston, Texas. 100 Jamie Lionheart in 3235 03:15:15,420 --> 03:15:19,860 Buford, Georgia 100 with a happy birthday to my husband Matt. 3236 03:15:20,460 --> 03:15:25,140 John Foley in Chicago. He Hills Illinois heights heights Chicago 3237 03:15:25,140 --> 03:15:29,730 Heights Chicago Heights, which is down from the hills. But no, 3238 03:15:29,730 --> 03:15:34,500 that's up from the hills. Jennifer fivey fivey I guess in 3239 03:15:34,500 --> 03:15:40,530 Alberta, Canada. Kami. Navia she says, she says kami Kenda Navia 3240 03:15:41,520 --> 03:15:49,050 Alejandro when gah in Neosho, Wisconsin into it says William 3241 03:15:49,050 --> 03:15:54,360 and as 100 William janking Jenkins Jenkins Jenkins in 3242 03:15:54,480 --> 03:15:58,830 Austin, Texas. 100. I got hairy legs is what he wants somebody 3243 03:15:58,830 --> 03:16:06,600 to say. Susan egg gar pootie hottie or hoody in lover UK. 3244 03:16:07,620 --> 03:16:09,120 This interesting $100 Hey, 3245 03:16:09,120 --> 03:16:14,940 Adam Curry: she says her first payment so I'm going to deduce 3246 03:16:14,940 --> 03:16:19,050 her then. You've been de deuced 3247 03:16:20,580 --> 03:16:24,210 John C Dvorak: Marilyn Osborne in Cincinnati, Ohio. Another D 3248 03:16:24,210 --> 03:16:29,790 douche needed for the $100 donation. You've been de deuced 3249 03:16:30,060 --> 03:16:33,210 and there's Kelly sprung Berg that we haven't heard from for a 3250 03:16:33,210 --> 03:16:38,310 while from Rocky Mountain. Alberta. Roderick Prince and 3251 03:16:38,310 --> 03:16:43,230 Scott as 100 as Rocky Prince Scottsdale Arizona 100 and 3252 03:16:44,190 --> 03:16:47,640 Adam Curry: he needs some stroke recovery karma at the end. You 3253 03:16:47,640 --> 03:16:48,030 got it. 3254 03:16:49,230 --> 03:16:52,560 John C Dvorak: Paul Eaton in Albuquerque New Mexico 99 Sir 3255 03:16:52,560 --> 03:16:59,220 camera Chris and Grafton Wisconsin 9364. Despite John 3256 03:16:59,220 --> 03:17:01,710 blocking my email here as I don't know what he's talking 3257 03:17:01,710 --> 03:17:07,350 about. But he thanks us for signing that too many eggs book 3258 03:17:09,300 --> 03:17:13,770 by Robert smiley, no relation to the spook Hall in Pennsylvania 3259 03:17:13,800 --> 03:17:15,210 at 520. Chelsea 3260 03:17:15,210 --> 03:17:21,000 Adam Curry: is at 88 with the fees. So it's all chip in 3261 03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:22,830 donation. Get it? 3262 03:17:23,910 --> 03:17:29,520 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Chip. The original 88 3263 03:17:29,520 --> 03:17:35,070 chip, which was in the first IBM PC, William Austin in El Paso 3264 03:17:35,070 --> 03:17:38,490 Texas at 430. And we should do it shipped donation. Yes, we 3265 03:17:38,490 --> 03:17:45,240 should. Emerson Trimble in Standish, Maine at one Adam 3266 03:17:45,240 --> 03:17:49,170 Frederick in orange, Vermont at 66 says 3267 03:17:49,170 --> 03:17:51,510 Adam Curry: Career karma works now I need to divorce karma 3268 03:17:51,510 --> 03:17:54,990 unrelated shows have been bangers alright, we'll give it 3269 03:17:54,990 --> 03:17:56,700 lots of karma coming up at the end here. 3270 03:17:56,730 --> 03:18:00,300 John C Dvorak: We're not doing divorce karma. David Cox in 3271 03:18:00,300 --> 03:18:04,860 Dallas, Texas 808. These are all boob donations as the head of 3272 03:18:04,860 --> 03:18:07,560 these guys who really popularized it is Kevin 3273 03:18:07,560 --> 03:18:11,220 McLaughlin Nair. He is in Concord, North Carolina. 808 3274 03:18:11,220 --> 03:18:17,190 Eric Adler, Punta Gorda, Florida 808. Mike McCoy, Schaumburg, 3275 03:18:17,250 --> 03:18:21,450 Illinois eight oh a sir infinitas Holly Springs, North 3276 03:18:21,450 --> 03:18:33,120 Carolina 808. Christian Grealish in Lakeland, Lakeland, Ohio at 3277 03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:37,860 88 8008. Sorry, Susie Lawson comes in from Bristol Tennessee 3278 03:18:37,860 --> 03:18:43,710 with 7903 Stephen man and Plymouth Minnesota, Michigan. 3279 03:18:44,160 --> 03:18:52,500 Sorry 7903 I think $75 donations 79 or whatever it is. He claims 3280 03:18:52,500 --> 03:18:55,560 it is a conviction donation. Okay. 3281 03:18:56,730 --> 03:18:57,480 Adam Curry: Good one, 3282 03:18:57,540 --> 03:19:03,300 John C Dvorak: sir. Job job. In Elkton, Florida. 7903. Yeah, 3283 03:19:03,300 --> 03:19:09,840 that's 75 donation plus fees. Benjamin Harwood in Houston, 3284 03:19:09,840 --> 03:19:14,250 Texas. 7903 they're going anything in there he wants us to 3285 03:19:14,250 --> 03:19:15,060 do he says he 3286 03:19:15,060 --> 03:19:16,980 Adam Curry: had figured out throw something your way after 3287 03:19:16,980 --> 03:19:20,190 listening for nearly 10 years newsletter works at Puppy doing 3288 03:19:20,190 --> 03:19:21,150 his business. 3289 03:19:22,680 --> 03:19:25,770 John C Dvorak: Literally, thank you Coca Cola with a great name 3290 03:19:25,770 --> 03:19:28,590 and Sherwood Oregon 7777 3291 03:19:29,130 --> 03:19:38,490 Adam Curry: wants to call out Ryle and her sister. Rachel and 3292 03:19:38,490 --> 03:19:42,750 Sarah and her sister. His sister, his sister, her sister, 3293 03:19:42,810 --> 03:19:44,490 Dakota sister, her Dakota 3294 03:19:44,490 --> 03:19:48,450 John C Dvorak: sisters. There you go. Sir David Van sunder in 3295 03:19:48,450 --> 03:19:53,790 Pacific Grove California 7777 Christopher O'Hara in 3296 03:19:53,790 --> 03:20:00,210 Hummelstown, Pennsylvania 7773 Sir latte, Ian Bremmer. tin 3297 03:20:00,210 --> 03:20:08,700 Washington 7733 Sir silver in in Silver Springs, Maryland. 77 sir 3298 03:20:08,700 --> 03:20:15,720 gray and Ross common michigan 7344. David Terry in Eldorado 3299 03:20:15,720 --> 03:20:19,020 Hills, California 7026 we're getting we're getting there, 3300 03:20:19,560 --> 03:20:25,920 sir. Will was one L in Clarksville, Tennessee. 6938 his 3301 03:20:25,920 --> 03:20:32,310 birthday on the birthday list. Garrett Hollander in Farmington, 3302 03:20:32,670 --> 03:20:38,640 Arkansas. 6666666 By the way, next show is 16 Six Six all you 3303 03:20:38,640 --> 03:20:44,220 pagans. You got show 1666 coming up. 3304 03:20:44,910 --> 03:20:48,390 Adam Curry: Well my Christians better show up. Yes 3305 03:20:48,390 --> 03:20:51,120 John C Dvorak: to counter the pagans. Yes, we have a bad let's 3306 03:20:51,120 --> 03:20:54,780 see how many Christians and pagans come in. There you go. 3307 03:20:55,350 --> 03:21:01,950 Cameron Linga in northbridge, Minnesota 6561 Frank Chia Pet 3308 03:21:01,950 --> 03:21:05,700 ah, in Carpentersville, Illinois. 6502. There's another 3309 03:21:05,700 --> 03:21:12,750 chip, Eric Henry in Maitland, Florida 65 Eric Hof in Edmonton, 3310 03:21:12,750 --> 03:21:20,370 Alberta. 6325 sir ladyboy in Mount Laurel, New Jersey 606 3311 03:21:20,370 --> 03:21:26,880 small boobs, Kyle to hygge in Liberty Lake Washington 606 3312 03:21:26,910 --> 03:21:31,740 Douglas Bechdel in Waterloo, Ontario 60. Steve Ben Straub, 3313 03:21:31,740 --> 03:21:36,630 Baron of someplace or other yay. Nashville Tennessee's. 3314 03:21:38,640 --> 03:21:40,860 Adam Curry: He's one of our pilots know 3315 03:21:41,130 --> 03:21:43,920 John C Dvorak: Steve Sims in green Cove Springs, Florida 3316 03:21:44,370 --> 03:21:53,670 5986. USB credit for 5678 donation John's favorite Minute 3317 03:21:53,670 --> 03:22:01,980 Man and fuq wave arena North Carolina 5809 Minute Man and oh 3318 03:22:01,980 --> 03:22:03,630 that's Minute Man. I said that okay, 3319 03:22:03,630 --> 03:22:07,920 Adam Curry: Marina fu K fu K. Less 3320 03:22:07,920 --> 03:22:11,940 John C Dvorak: tar kowski in Kingman Arizona. 58. Gary 3321 03:22:11,940 --> 03:22:20,640 Marquardt in mountain Minnesota. 5798 Christopher hassle in 3322 03:22:20,670 --> 03:22:28,230 Seattle 5798 Henry Werth in Laughlin Nevada to de 798 and he 3323 03:22:28,230 --> 03:22:29,640 needs a deed douching 3324 03:22:32,010 --> 03:22:33,180 Unknown: deed duced 3325 03:22:36,510 --> 03:22:40,980 John C Dvorak: David Adrian in Cary, North Carolina 5678 Sir 3326 03:22:40,980 --> 03:22:47,340 Paulie Bravo, in Greeley Colorado, that defy 67 is 3327 03:22:47,340 --> 03:22:52,710 actually in Fort Collins, Pete February. Federici in Bothell, 3328 03:22:53,040 --> 03:22:57,990 Washington to defy 55 Need some jobs and moving karma will put 3329 03:22:57,990 --> 03:23:02,610 you in the end for the karma. Chris Richardson in Bremerton, 3330 03:23:02,610 --> 03:23:09,060 Washington. 5533 got some Washington's guys coming in. Got 3331 03:23:09,060 --> 03:23:12,570 a nasty note about you. Yeah. John Fitzpatrick in Heber 3332 03:23:12,570 --> 03:23:20,370 springs Arkansas at 510 Mark mish mer Hughson poison right. 3333 03:23:20,730 --> 03:23:24,120 Holland mich is funny these guys they would Dutch names are from 3334 03:23:24,120 --> 03:23:30,240 a Holland Michigan. Coincidence? I think not. We had another we 3335 03:23:30,240 --> 03:23:34,260 have another Dutch person that's in Orangevale which is you know, 3336 03:23:34,320 --> 03:23:34,980 that's another 3337 03:23:34,980 --> 03:23:37,980 Adam Curry: weird another Dutch master. Search 3338 03:23:37,980 --> 03:23:42,330 John C Dvorak: John hight in Folsom, California. 5432 Joseph 3339 03:23:42,330 --> 03:23:48,690 Richards in Kalamazoo, Michigan. 5412 dark night in Matawan New 3340 03:23:48,690 --> 03:23:55,860 Jersey 5377. Needs some jobs Carmo give you that the end 3341 03:23:56,010 --> 03:24:01,680 Christine Christine cortisol cortisol sounds like a drug. 3342 03:24:02,460 --> 03:24:09,120 Pensacola Florida 53 Lydia Terry dominantly in Rochester New 3343 03:24:09,120 --> 03:24:15,180 Hampshire. She's a dame 53 Christopher worth. Worth w o r t 3344 03:24:15,180 --> 03:24:20,670 h in Aurora Colorado 50 to 80 Here's a message Don't give 3345 03:24:20,670 --> 03:24:27,720 money to politicians donate to no agenda. I agree spot John 3346 03:24:27,720 --> 03:24:34,140 Wooden in Kodiak, Alaska 50 to 72. Coffee by coffee by July SP 3347 03:24:34,380 --> 03:24:39,960 in random Lake Wisconsin. 50 To 70 to another coffee guy. Best 3348 03:24:39,960 --> 03:24:47,280 Jan lasondra in Hengelo Peng Hello, hello, King glowing 3349 03:24:47,280 --> 03:24:47,760 Otherland 3350 03:24:47,910 --> 03:24:49,740 Adam Curry: hang alone, Angola 3351 03:24:51,150 --> 03:24:55,470 John C Dvorak: Hello Kitty 272 Wesley store in Mesa, Arizona 3352 03:24:55,740 --> 03:24:59,160 5272 I'm just gonna read these names and addresses. They're all 3353 03:24:59,160 --> 03:25:02,940 5270 too and they go right into the 50 So we're gonna just do 3354 03:25:02,940 --> 03:25:07,890 all that adjacent more in Vancouver Parker jolly here I 3355 03:25:07,890 --> 03:25:12,810 got back and forth these do with a jolly family Montgomery Texas 3356 03:25:13,020 --> 03:25:19,770 cone and Monster Kuhn in. In Berg Berg shun pork 3357 03:25:20,190 --> 03:25:23,850 Adam Curry: goon monster in bearish and hook litigate 3358 03:25:23,850 --> 03:25:29,280 John C Dvorak: got that part right close every second year in 3359 03:25:29,370 --> 03:25:34,830 Atlanta parse person of merit common comics person of merit 3360 03:25:34,920 --> 03:25:40,560 comics in Columbia, Ohio Columbia, Alec's Salah shower. 3361 03:25:41,250 --> 03:25:44,730 I've always pronounced his name awkwardly as Shaker Heights, 3362 03:25:45,810 --> 03:25:51,960 Chris grill in Monroeville, Pennsylvania. Ron pointer in 3363 03:25:51,960 --> 03:25:56,970 Union Kentucky, Scott Merrill in Vancouver, Vancouver, 3364 03:25:56,970 --> 03:26:02,910 Washington. Matthew Mongan in Baltimore, Maryland. Sean 3365 03:26:02,910 --> 03:26:08,880 Bassano in Madison, Alabama, Mike Rennaker in Dubuque, Iowa. 3366 03:26:09,960 --> 03:26:16,800 Rachel Rankin in Bettendorf. Iowa, Adam Whitmore in Elkton, 3367 03:26:16,890 --> 03:26:24,240 Maryland, Robert Garcia in Lombard Illinois. Nicole Morgan 3368 03:26:24,240 --> 03:26:28,710 in Madera, California, with a lot of people here in this list, 3369 03:26:29,130 --> 03:26:34,560 Colin Preston in Oregon City, Dame Cassidy in Oklahoma City. 3370 03:26:35,550 --> 03:26:39,750 And she's complaining about inflation causing these issues 3371 03:26:39,750 --> 03:26:43,170 with our donations. And I think there's some truth to that. 3372 03:26:43,290 --> 03:26:46,200 Yeah, of course. I'm Michael Hogan and Highland New York II 3373 03:26:46,200 --> 03:26:56,040 on Ian Walker Smith and Kalina. Were CL I don't know Kabuto or 3374 03:26:56,040 --> 03:27:02,580 CL is either with that should know that. Zach Matthews in 3375 03:27:02,580 --> 03:27:08,430 Caldwell, Ohio. John Prinze and in Niagara Falls, Ontario, 3376 03:27:08,430 --> 03:27:12,540 Canada. Just keep it up. He writes. Gerald Stevens in 3377 03:27:12,540 --> 03:27:17,310 Cheyenne, Wyoming Baron. A slaughter Bart passed in hope, 3378 03:27:17,340 --> 03:27:26,190 Rhode Island. John, oh, catfish in Chardon, Ohio. There that 3379 03:27:26,190 --> 03:27:31,110 librarian in San Francisco see our down at Ellis 3380 03:27:31,110 --> 03:27:39,300 Adam Curry: Chile. Oh, really? Yes. Chile you Hello, Chile. 3381 03:27:39,690 --> 03:27:42,210 Hello, Chile, Kalina Chile. 3382 03:27:43,200 --> 03:27:48,240 John C Dvorak: Surfer in Shasta Lake. Thomas Starkweather are in 3383 03:27:48,240 --> 03:27:49,770 Stafford resist where he is now. 3384 03:27:49,980 --> 03:27:54,120 Adam Curry: Dead. Tom's Thompson is flown around. Yeah. became an 3385 03:27:54,120 --> 03:27:55,170 Alex man. Yeah. 3386 03:27:57,510 --> 03:28:01,800 John C Dvorak: MT Duffy and Blenheim New Zealand. Tea 3387 03:28:01,800 --> 03:28:06,180 gardener in Essex, Great Britain, Karl Schneider in Lake 3388 03:28:06,180 --> 03:28:12,960 Bay, Washington. And now we got the actual 50s Scott McCarty, 3389 03:28:13,200 --> 03:28:19,950 Lodi. Tony Lange and Castle Pines, Colorado. Jordan Tierney 3390 03:28:19,950 --> 03:28:27,300 in oral South Dakota. Jordan point oh, in Salem, Oregon. 3391 03:28:27,420 --> 03:28:32,010 Robert Mueller's in La Jolla, California. Michael Wragge. 3392 03:28:32,010 --> 03:28:38,400 Goose revolusi Ragu say, in Tustin, California. Josiah 3393 03:28:38,400 --> 03:28:42,630 Hendrickson in Eugene Oregon, Franklin Skipton Jr. in 3394 03:28:42,630 --> 03:28:47,370 pennsburg, Pennsylvania, Jacob Beggs he does in Petaluma, 3395 03:28:47,370 --> 03:28:54,480 California. Brian Belen in ash S S. Berry, New Jersey. That's 3396 03:28:54,480 --> 03:28:57,090 where I think a bunch of people that used to live they're gonna 3397 03:28:57,090 --> 03:29:02,610 leave the country, Gerald Preston in Bennington, Nebraska. 3398 03:29:03,060 --> 03:29:08,790 Matt Freezy in St. John's, Florida, sir slam Bob in San 3399 03:29:08,790 --> 03:29:15,150 Jose. Keith Warford in Fayetteville, Blair Williams in 3400 03:29:15,180 --> 03:29:21,450 Orange Beach, Alabama. Daniel laboy in Bath Michigan Joshua 3401 03:29:21,480 --> 03:29:28,380 Buford in Midlothian, Virginia. Foster Burch in New York City 3402 03:29:28,830 --> 03:29:34,770 crime in Estelle Tari in Toronto. Carl Vogler in Dillon 3403 03:29:34,770 --> 03:29:39,600 Beach, California, Michael Grossie in Windsor, Ontario, 3404 03:29:39,600 --> 03:29:45,060 Canada, get enough people from Windsor carry a law in Warren, 3405 03:29:45,090 --> 03:29:52,140 Ohio Adam writer in Redmond, Oregon. Hello ello ello Lewis 3406 03:29:52,380 --> 03:29:58,260 Ellis Ellis something like that legal in Newark, Delaware. Once 3407 03:29:58,260 --> 03:30:02,520 jobs cover for everybody Everybody has San Francisco I 3408 03:30:02,520 --> 03:30:06,660 Ichi kid a gawa. And last on the list I think he's in Oklahoma 3409 03:30:06,660 --> 03:30:11,370 City is Brett Farrell and that concludes a long, happy list of 3410 03:30:11,370 --> 03:30:13,890 people that like our show. Wow. 3411 03:30:15,780 --> 03:30:18,510 Adam Curry: Thank you all so much. And for those of you who 3412 03:30:18,510 --> 03:30:21,930 did not support us today, this is how it works. If you get any 3413 03:30:21,930 --> 03:30:24,990 value from the show, send some value back. There's plenty of 3414 03:30:24,990 --> 03:30:29,340 time to do it for Thursday. We appreciate you everybody who 3415 03:30:29,340 --> 03:30:32,940 came in under 50 As I said earlier, any amount is worthy of 3416 03:30:32,940 --> 03:30:35,460 a producer to your peers and no agenda show thank you very much 3417 03:30:35,460 --> 03:30:38,280 no agenda donations.com jobs, 3418 03:30:38,430 --> 03:30:41,430 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs let's 3419 03:30:44,760 --> 03:30:47,340 Adam Curry: calm that was the jobs karma general karma for 3420 03:30:47,340 --> 03:30:54,960 people here. You've got the warwick.org/na no agenda 3421 03:30:54,960 --> 03:30:56,190 donations.com. 3422 03:31:02,610 --> 03:31:06,720 We do have a list dragon slayer wishes his wonderful wife Tracy 3423 03:31:06,720 --> 03:31:10,350 a happy birthday. She turned 60 years old today. We are very 3424 03:31:10,350 --> 03:31:13,440 happy for her and for him. Nicole Morgan wishes her smokin 3425 03:31:13,440 --> 03:31:17,880 hot husband Trevor a happy 149 Tomorrow sir will with one L 3426 03:31:18,090 --> 03:31:22,110 turns 41 On the fifth sir Rain Man turning 28 On the seventh. 3427 03:31:22,320 --> 03:31:26,580 And finally Jamie Lane art wishes her husband Matt, a very 3428 03:31:26,580 --> 03:31:29,220 happy birthday and we say happy birthday from everybody here the 3429 03:31:29,220 --> 03:31:33,840 best podcast in the universe. We're doing Knights and Dames. I 3430 03:31:33,840 --> 03:31:36,480 got a note here from producer Craig from South Dakota. 3431 03:31:36,480 --> 03:31:40,050 Longterm producer just texted in. He says Adam, Adam, Adam, 3432 03:31:40,050 --> 03:31:43,980 Adam, tell John tell John, my very liberal mother in law 3433 03:31:44,160 --> 03:31:47,640 removed her American flag that had flown at her house for 3434 03:31:47,640 --> 03:31:57,480 decades. Because it is now a Trump flag. Wow. How sad is 3435 03:31:57,480 --> 03:31:58,140 that? 3436 03:32:01,020 --> 03:32:03,840 John C Dvorak: People get angry to place a Trump on it was that 3437 03:32:05,340 --> 03:32:08,160 Adam Curry: the American flag is now a Trump flag. Just a regular 3438 03:32:08,160 --> 03:32:12,120 American flag. Yep, yep. Craig, why don't you give her a pride 3439 03:32:12,120 --> 03:32:15,180 flag to hang up. Sounds like give her a break. Give 3440 03:32:15,180 --> 03:32:18,600 John C Dvorak: it a good one to have the big gouge in a circle. 3441 03:32:19,680 --> 03:32:22,590 Adam Curry: There's my blade for a night for two nights in a day 3442 03:32:22,620 --> 03:32:26,130 and you had a blade there. You got something right here. Yes, 3443 03:32:26,580 --> 03:32:32,940 that's a good one. Tracy step on up here. Anonymous and Eric 3444 03:32:32,940 --> 03:32:36,030 constable all three of us for the no agenda show in the amount 3445 03:32:36,030 --> 03:32:39,030 of $1,000 or more or it was given to you it doesn't matter 3446 03:32:39,060 --> 03:32:43,260 matter at all. Because I'm very proud to hereby pronounce the 3447 03:32:43,260 --> 03:32:48,960 Kate the as game Tracy of the Roman Rite, ceramic jar night of 3448 03:32:48,960 --> 03:32:52,830 the looseleaf and serve banks wrangler for you we have hookers 3449 03:32:52,830 --> 03:32:56,460 and blow rent boys and Chardonnay Spanish cucumbers for 3450 03:32:56,460 --> 03:32:59,700 the Portuguese amongst us. Also Rubenesque women and Rosie 3451 03:32:59,700 --> 03:33:02,520 against us and Saki vaca Manila bong hits in bourbon sparkling 3452 03:33:02,520 --> 03:33:06,750 cider and escorts, ginger ale and Jerboas. And of course, as 3453 03:33:06,750 --> 03:33:09,780 always got a little bit of mutton and meat here. The three 3454 03:33:09,780 --> 03:33:13,410 of you head over to no agenda nation, no agenda rings.com And 3455 03:33:13,440 --> 03:33:16,740 there's a handy ring finger sizing guide. Make sure you get 3456 03:33:16,740 --> 03:33:20,070 the right size and send that into us along with a place to 3457 03:33:20,070 --> 03:33:23,340 send you a ring which is a handy beautiful signet ring. You can 3458 03:33:23,340 --> 03:33:26,850 use it to seal your important correspondence with the wax that 3459 03:33:26,850 --> 03:33:30,000 we provide. And of course, there's always a certificate of 3460 03:33:30,030 --> 03:33:33,360 authenticity. Thank you again for supporting the no agenda 3461 03:33:33,360 --> 03:33:33,900 show. 3462 03:33:41,880 --> 03:33:45,390 The Alameda meetup report will come on the next show and John 3463 03:33:45,390 --> 03:33:48,570 will be crediting the nice Albany I'm sorry, why is it 3464 03:33:48,570 --> 03:33:52,380 Alameda Albany and John will be crediting people who supported 3465 03:33:52,380 --> 03:33:57,300 on the spot and here is also from California. Yay in fact 3466 03:33:57,300 --> 03:34:00,120 insane Diego's meet up report Hey guys, 3467 03:34:00,150 --> 03:34:03,060 Unknown: this is a meet up report. This is Sir Mike in 3468 03:34:03,060 --> 03:34:08,250 Rancho Bernardo at the round table pizza trying to stay sane 3469 03:34:08,430 --> 03:34:11,820 in San Diego in the morning in the morning this 3470 03:34:11,820 --> 03:34:14,250 is Sir Matthew Black Knight of the ice giants wondering is 3471 03:34:14,250 --> 03:34:16,410 since you guys double black knight and me does that make me 3472 03:34:16,410 --> 03:34:19,650 a double black knight or a black and white knight? Yo douchebag 3473 03:34:19,650 --> 03:34:23,280 here first time in in San Diego and today I got the whole load 3474 03:34:23,340 --> 03:34:23,580 in the 3475 03:34:23,580 --> 03:34:27,060 morning little Victor in the morning Victor father four more 3476 03:34:27,060 --> 03:34:31,860 years it's not enough. I'm sorry. Hey, this is Vince former 3477 03:34:31,860 --> 03:34:35,010 douchebag night in waiting and that was Johnny Johnny you gotta 3478 03:34:35,010 --> 03:34:41,580 ants. I got Jim Hawkins a Treasure Island John. I 3479 03:34:41,580 --> 03:34:44,880 biked my computer mouse it works really nice. Also trust and 3480 03:34:44,880 --> 03:34:46,140 Trump Danny 3481 03:34:46,170 --> 03:34:51,000 Adam Curry: breaking free from the DMV. This is day mom, ITM 3482 03:34:51,180 --> 03:34:58,530 goodnight, left nut insane Diego. Here's what's coming up 3483 03:34:58,530 --> 03:35:01,350 with there is a third and crawfish boil as you heard 3484 03:35:01,350 --> 03:35:04,230 earlier at Shaw acres in Prairieville, Louisiana underway 3485 03:35:04,230 --> 03:35:07,800 as we speak the flight of the no agenda number 52. All aboard the 3486 03:35:07,800 --> 03:35:12,450 HMS bounty on Wilshire is about to kick off 3:33pm in Los 3487 03:35:12,450 --> 03:35:15,450 Angeles, California at the HMS bounty on Wednesday, the 3488 03:35:15,450 --> 03:35:20,190 northern wake pre Juneteenth which burning 6pm hoppy endings 3489 03:35:20,190 --> 03:35:23,430 in Raleigh, North Carolina, and on the next show day 805 pop up 3490 03:35:23,430 --> 03:35:27,900 meetup 4pm at Galena, HGI rooftop in Galena, California. 3491 03:35:28,200 --> 03:35:33,180 And the not a joke Denver meetup 630 in city park, Denver Museum 3492 03:35:33,180 --> 03:35:36,270 of Nature and Science in Denver, Colorado. There's many more 3493 03:35:36,270 --> 03:35:40,620 meetups coming up, including the big June 15, one in the 3494 03:35:40,620 --> 03:35:43,350 Netherlands and Amsterdam and Schiphol Airport. I will be 3495 03:35:43,350 --> 03:35:46,710 there looking forward to seeing everybody no agenda meetups it's 3496 03:35:46,710 --> 03:35:51,420 a important part of your life connection is protection. Go to 3497 03:35:51,420 --> 03:35:56,220 one you will not be disappointed no agenda meetups.com Go now. 3498 03:35:56,670 --> 03:35:57,540 Sometimes 3499 03:35:57,540 --> 03:36:06,090 Unknown: you want to go hang out with Dyson days. You won't be 3500 03:36:06,150 --> 03:36:12,540 triggered you to be safe. 3501 03:36:14,550 --> 03:36:20,910 Adam Curry: This guy got a like a like a party like a party like 3502 03:36:20,910 --> 03:36:30,270 a party like a party. All right. I have. Boy I have 1235 It's 3503 03:36:30,270 --> 03:36:36,180 going on with me. I five five ISOs to choose from you wanna do 3504 03:36:36,180 --> 03:36:37,080 yours first? 3505 03:36:37,350 --> 03:36:38,520 John C Dvorak: No, I want to hear those. 3506 03:36:38,580 --> 03:36:41,850 Adam Curry: Okay, here we go. Driven by climate change. Is 3507 03:36:41,850 --> 03:36:48,660 that one? Oh wait, no agenda. Is that one? It was super fun. I 3508 03:36:48,660 --> 03:36:54,060 kinda like that one. It's gonna make your life so much better. 3509 03:36:54,840 --> 03:37:00,240 Or my favorite big big big Did you like any of them? 3510 03:37:01,290 --> 03:37:03,840 John C Dvorak: The one that you kind of liked was I think was 3511 03:37:04,140 --> 03:37:09,840 usable. was the second to the last or tool and it was super 3512 03:37:09,840 --> 03:37:14,070 fun. That one might be okay, I got two and then they have an 3513 03:37:14,070 --> 03:37:15,300 optional third 3514 03:37:18,930 --> 03:37:24,150 Adam Curry: one of my plan here What am I playing? 3515 03:37:24,780 --> 03:37:26,580 John C Dvorak: You're playing ISO stick. 3516 03:37:27,030 --> 03:37:30,540 Adam Curry: Look, I think it's a bad plug on a stick. Not Not 3517 03:37:30,540 --> 03:37:36,000 audible enough. You don't know what that is? No. It was you 3518 03:37:36,510 --> 03:37:39,030 couldn't hear it. That's why it was me It sucked because that's 3519 03:37:39,030 --> 03:37:39,120 the 3520 03:37:39,120 --> 03:37:41,640 John C Dvorak: way it came across. You knew it was a long 3521 03:37:41,640 --> 03:37:45,540 time ago and it was over compressed I was no good. Okay, 3522 03:37:45,540 --> 03:37:48,810 now I have Windows sounds like a serial killer signing us off 3523 03:37:49,050 --> 03:37:49,410 into 3524 03:37:49,410 --> 03:37:54,990 Adam Curry: Show. Bye Bye. You don't need to I don't need to 3525 03:37:54,990 --> 03:38:01,320 hear any more. That's the one show bye bye. Yeah, very nice. 3526 03:38:01,620 --> 03:38:05,100 And now ladies gentlemen first time for a new segment on the 3527 03:38:05,100 --> 03:38:06,450 show John 3528 03:38:06,450 --> 03:38:12,870 Unknown: C double check with the to the day he's gonna tell us 3529 03:38:12,870 --> 03:38:18,960 would he would do in every possible way. John 3530 03:38:18,960 --> 03:38:22,740 Adam Curry: just a tip. Yeah. And we need jingles everybody we 3531 03:38:22,740 --> 03:38:24,390 need jingles. Yeah, anything 3532 03:38:24,390 --> 03:38:28,350 John C Dvorak: but that we got. Okay, so I'm recommending a 3533 03:38:28,350 --> 03:38:31,620 product. All right, that people will get a kick out if it's an 3534 03:38:31,620 --> 03:38:34,950 AI product which kind of you know, you will hate so you don't 3535 03:38:34,950 --> 03:38:37,950 you shouldn't even look at it. But it's called 11. It's 3536 03:38:37,980 --> 03:38:43,110 11 labs.io is the URL and they just introduced the sound 3537 03:38:43,110 --> 03:38:48,150 effects section. And there's this thing is got what makes it 3538 03:38:48,150 --> 03:38:54,450 fun this 11 Labs what is the number of hallucinations that it 3539 03:38:54,450 --> 03:38:56,340 creates? Oh, and 3540 03:38:56,340 --> 03:38:58,230 Adam Curry: do you have any examples? I 3541 03:38:58,230 --> 03:39:00,930 John C Dvorak: do but first I'm going to play that a series of 3542 03:39:00,930 --> 03:39:06,630 douchebag clips all from the same prompt This is 11 Labs i Oh 3543 03:39:06,630 --> 03:39:07,740 douchebags. 3544 03:39:09,570 --> 03:39:12,870 Adam Curry: Okay, here we go. Yeah, have you a douche bag? 3545 03:39:13,410 --> 03:39:15,480 Here? If you're a douche bag 3546 03:39:17,250 --> 03:39:20,700 Unknown: I don't think so. You douche bag 3547 03:39:25,410 --> 03:39:28,980 Adam Curry: we finally found a use for AI s fantastic 3548 03:39:30,330 --> 03:39:33,510 John C Dvorak: to play the non hallucination clip which is she 3549 03:39:33,510 --> 03:39:37,140 says exactly what I put in as the prompt and I'm going to play 3550 03:39:37,140 --> 03:39:44,520 the hallucination this is non hallucination clip No, no no, 3551 03:39:44,520 --> 03:39:47,940 you're playing the wrong clip. It says non clip is titled non 3552 03:39:47,940 --> 03:39:48,960 hallucination. 3553 03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:57,150 Adam Curry: Sorry, here we go. And if so you do spec. Now I 3554 03:39:57,150 --> 03:39:58,560 don't know what to choose. 3555 03:39:59,310 --> 03:40:03,090 John C Dvorak: There's only one left. So that was a show you 3556 03:40:03,090 --> 03:40:06,660 douche bag, which is in a sexy voice, which I didn't ask for. I 3557 03:40:06,660 --> 03:40:11,670 asked for a person saying end of show you douche bag. And you 3558 03:40:11,670 --> 03:40:14,250 also have to put it in phonetically because they can't 3559 03:40:14,250 --> 03:40:17,100 pronounce the actual spelling douchebag Oh 3560 03:40:17,100 --> 03:40:18,630 Adam Curry: really, really? 3561 03:40:19,260 --> 03:40:20,370 John C Dvorak: Worked. Yeah. Really? 3562 03:40:20,400 --> 03:40:22,050 Adam Curry: What kind of AI is that? 3563 03:40:22,200 --> 03:40:25,830 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you tell me. So but it hallucinates so 3564 03:40:25,830 --> 03:40:29,730 much now you just heard that clip. End of show? Was it end of 3565 03:40:29,730 --> 03:40:35,040 show you douchebag here's the hallucination version 3566 03:40:45,480 --> 03:40:46,710 what is that? How 3567 03:40:46,710 --> 03:40:49,410 Adam Curry: did that even come about? I don't, I don't 3568 03:40:49,410 --> 03:40:50,490 understand. 3569 03:40:50,760 --> 03:40:53,700 John C Dvorak: I did I could play that. Actually, the 3570 03:40:53,700 --> 03:40:57,540 hallucinations are funnier than any of the clips. But it's like 3571 03:40:57,870 --> 03:41:01,650 some of them are just so and there's music as a music bed and 3572 03:41:01,650 --> 03:41:07,260 a lot of them. I had one of I didn't clip it. But I said 3573 03:41:08,250 --> 03:41:11,010 something like this almost the same clip with your douche bag. 3574 03:41:11,010 --> 03:41:17,280 But it started playing by Papa's got a brand new bag. RIFF at the 3575 03:41:17,280 --> 03:41:20,790 end this music thing. It's unbelievable. But this is a fun 3576 03:41:20,790 --> 03:41:22,140 product for people to play with. 3577 03:41:22,380 --> 03:41:24,750 Adam Curry: Again, the name of the product and the domain where 3578 03:41:24,750 --> 03:41:27,810 we can find this fine product is your tip of the day. 3579 03:41:27,810 --> 03:41:31,320 John C Dvorak: 11 labs.io All right, everybody. And they've 3580 03:41:31,320 --> 03:41:35,250 just recently introduced the sound effects. Sound effects. 3581 03:41:35,700 --> 03:41:36,330 All right. 3582 03:41:37,770 --> 03:41:41,760 Unknown: From John C Dvorak kids was just 3583 03:41:49,350 --> 03:41:54,330 Adam Curry: had help. Help us please help us with the jingles 3584 03:41:54,330 --> 03:42:00,270 for Jon's tip. They are good tips though. I'll give him I'll 3585 03:42:00,270 --> 03:42:05,310 give you that. End of show mixes coming up from Brian longenecker 3586 03:42:05,310 --> 03:42:10,290 Professor J. Jones coming in from China and a classic Trump 3587 03:42:10,290 --> 03:42:15,690 rotation which seemed a proposed for today's conviction episode. 3588 03:42:16,530 --> 03:42:20,910 Up next on no agenda stream we have the title of the douchebags 3589 03:42:20,910 --> 03:42:24,840 live that will be battle I think not the title. The Battle of the 3590 03:42:24,840 --> 03:42:29,040 douchebags they should get some of those some of those AI clips 3591 03:42:29,220 --> 03:42:33,120 that says Senator Fletcher Pfeiffer and Billy Bones battle 3592 03:42:33,120 --> 03:42:37,020 of douchebags stay tuned to no agenda stream.com hangout and 3593 03:42:37,020 --> 03:42:40,230 troll room.io Or keep listening on your modern podcast app 3594 03:42:40,560 --> 03:42:43,440 coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in 3595 03:42:43,440 --> 03:42:47,070 Fredericksburg where there's a new sheriff in town. In the 3596 03:42:47,070 --> 03:42:48,870 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 3597 03:42:49,320 --> 03:42:51,840 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we are 3598 03:42:51,840 --> 03:42:54,780 right where we were. And Jhansi Dvorak 3599 03:42:56,580 --> 03:42:58,890 Adam Curry: is an AI hallucination is you're not even 3600 03:42:58,890 --> 03:43:02,190 real. I knew it. I know it. I knew it. Remember us had no 3601 03:43:02,190 --> 03:43:06,240 agenda donations.com until Thursday, adios mofos or Hui 3602 03:43:06,240 --> 03:43:19,950 Hui, and such crazy stupid pieces 3603 03:43:29,370 --> 03:43:39,540 Unknown: motion artists always talking about stupid month. 3604 03:43:42,330 --> 03:43:46,140 Month doesn't know what he's talking about. Like punch in the 3605 03:43:46,140 --> 03:43:50,280 face, national disasters embarrassment to this country. 3606 03:43:50,430 --> 03:43:53,670 It makes me so angry that this country has gotten to this point 3607 03:43:53,670 --> 03:43:58,650 that this full disposal as wound up where he has. He wants to 3608 03:43:58,650 --> 03:44:02,310 punch people in the face. Well, I like to punch him in the face. 3609 03:44:02,400 --> 03:44:04,770 Adam Curry: And what is the climate change? Pete Buda, Judge 3610 03:44:04,800 --> 03:44:05,670 heat waves that 3611 03:44:05,670 --> 03:44:07,230 Unknown: shouldn't statistically even be 3612 03:44:07,230 --> 03:44:09,030 John C Dvorak: possible and I should mention this 3613 03:44:09,090 --> 03:44:10,830 Adam Curry: boy is he sitting 3614 03:44:10,830 --> 03:44:13,500 John C Dvorak: here yakking away write this down people. 3615 03:44:13,590 --> 03:44:14,520 Adam Curry: What does that mean? 3616 03:44:14,790 --> 03:44:17,310 Unknown: can vote for Trump? You should you should try it this 3617 03:44:17,310 --> 03:44:17,610 cool. 3618 03:44:17,820 --> 03:44:20,010 Adam Curry: Have you seen these reports? Statistically it could 3619 03:44:20,010 --> 03:44:23,010 never be this hot the hottest year on record climate change. 3620 03:44:23,070 --> 03:44:27,150 They've proven in court that PCR is only 3% accurate to be 3621 03:44:27,150 --> 03:44:28,410 Unknown: clear. Something is 3622 03:44:28,410 --> 03:44:31,020 that extreme is very rare, but 3623 03:44:33,930 --> 03:44:37,230 John C Dvorak: I don't know why he's even talking he's we need 3624 03:44:37,230 --> 03:44:38,130 more Portuguese 3625 03:44:38,130 --> 03:44:40,320 Adam Curry: this week to show more criminals threatening 3626 03:44:40,320 --> 03:44:42,810 Unknown: to melt the cables of transit systems in 3627 03:44:42,870 --> 03:44:44,970 Adam Curry: any Seattle boots on the ground. 3628 03:44:45,030 --> 03:44:48,000 Unknown: Turbulence goes up by about 16% 3629 03:44:48,090 --> 03:44:50,220 Adam Curry: Do you heard it wrong in the briefing bore. 3630 03:44:51,120 --> 03:44:54,510 Hello, Miss testifies. What do you think the most annoying 3631 03:44:54,510 --> 03:45:01,890 thing is that people do to the flight attendants I'd say worst 3632 03:45:01,890 --> 03:45:05,610 ever write this down people keep your seatbelt. Probably a good 3633 03:45:05,610 --> 03:45:12,450 policy people are insane. This he says you can't even touch 3634 03:45:12,450 --> 03:45:18,420 strippers. That's exactly what she said. And now he's saying 3635 03:45:18,630 --> 03:45:21,600 speedways that should statistically not even be 3636 03:45:21,600 --> 03:45:24,180 John C Dvorak: possible demand of income we get from it as 3637 03:45:24,180 --> 03:45:25,230 Neil. Our climate 3638 03:45:25,230 --> 03:45:26,850 Unknown: is evolving. They're poking 3639 03:45:26,850 --> 03:45:31,650 Adam Curry: the flight attendants. This testifies, that 3640 03:45:31,650 --> 03:45:35,700 was rare, but you're saying you do expect to see more incidents 3641 03:45:35,700 --> 03:45:38,760 like that here in the US the number is 55%. 3642 03:45:39,480 --> 03:45:40,680 John C Dvorak: And I should mention this 3643 03:45:42,270 --> 03:45:44,100 Adam Curry: stop poking your flight attendant 3644 03:45:52,950 --> 03:45:54,870 John C Dvorak: I have my list and you might want to see if 3645 03:45:54,870 --> 03:45:57,780 there's anything I left out this is the Trump rotation and his 3646 03:45:57,780 --> 03:46:00,360 two categories is the regular and then there's the criminal 3647 03:46:00,390 --> 03:46:04,560 but here we go. Ready? Liar, incompetent, unhinged, 3648 03:46:04,650 --> 03:46:08,580 illegitimate President white supremacist, racist bully, 3649 03:46:08,610 --> 03:46:13,860 immature Russian agent narcissist mean long ties, 3650 03:46:14,010 --> 03:46:19,020 insane tweets too much small hands all penis big red button a 3651 03:46:19,020 --> 03:46:26,970 criminal. Mean racist immature sin skin runs the MA has no 3652 03:46:26,970 --> 03:46:32,910 money. Unstable, fatter than 239 pounds. Bang Grubb 25th 3653 03:46:32,910 --> 03:46:35,790 amendment that should be instituted. He hates women 3654 03:46:35,790 --> 03:46:40,860 misogynist holds grudges forever plays golf allied obstruction of 3655 03:46:40,860 --> 03:46:45,420 justice, money laundering and clown John 3656 03:46:46,740 --> 03:46:49,680 Adam Curry: No wonder we're making America white again. 3657 03:46:57,990 --> 03:47:03,930 Mofo vorak.org/in The show you do