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Adam Curry: I recommend a
tinfoil hat personally.

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Unknown: Adam curry, John C.
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Adam Curry: It's Thursday August
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get one nation media
assassination episode 1682

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Unknown: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: We're all weird now
and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six

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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where Rachel

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Maddow is full of shit and
Johnson

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Adam Curry: That's right,
everybody. This is your typical

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morning Sue show. You heard
right here. My daddy wasn't

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beat. Oh. Wow. Okay, you're mad
at Rachel. What did she do? Show

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me on the Rachael hall where she
hurt you?

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John C Dvorak: Well, you want me
to go to the pitch on weird.

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Adam Curry: I'd love for you to
go to the pitch on weird.

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John C Dvorak: So the Democrats
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weird I

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Adam Curry: just kind of say,
the stuff that's going on right

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now is the stuff that media
deconstructionist dream of. It

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is so blatantly, stupidly
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John C Dvorak: When three clips
Okay, let's hear. First, I have

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the supercut of the use of the
word weird on MSNBC, CNN, and

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various mainstream outlets. Some
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Unknown: what is running mate
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These guys are just weird.
That's really

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weird and creepy. is JD Vance.

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Super weird idea from JD Vance.
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not I mean it's quite weird

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we're just plain weird

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that stuff is weird. They come
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being weird Yeah, they're

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weird. Really weird such a weird
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is weird. Oh, running mate are
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John C Dvorak: are weird these
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it's just weird it's really
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he said a lot of things that are
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your policies with the

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weird thing because it is a
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plain weird. What

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was weird was talking about Diet
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Mountain Dew whoever seen

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the guy laugh? That seems very
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can go through six and a half
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if he has laughed it's at
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that is weird behavior and and
cultish. These are weird people

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on the other side kind of

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double down on his weird ideas.
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generous. Simply weird. These
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as weird. You know, as the
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really? Is

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just playing weird.

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JD Vance playing weird.

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I mean, you gotta read it weird.
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is kind of weird. We're

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not free to weird people. The
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are you being so weird? And

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since doing something more
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No matter what kind of weird
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Vance are just weird. In
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if you've been registered,
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the weird part. That's the most
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beautiful Christians, which was
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in tech bro. JD Vance uses a
weird guy JD Vance

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weird, frankly, for lack of

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a better word that he's weird

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remarks that aren't even funny.
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can't really deliver a one
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So stand weird is the word here
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Adam Curry: This was really dare
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definition of weird is strange
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character odd or fantastic. of
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witchcraft or the supernatural,
magical. So it's an odd choice

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of SLAM ma'am. As

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John C Dvorak: we continue, the
choice will be deconstructed by

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of all people, Scott Adams. But
first of all, after all this,

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they went through all this
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not to be out done. She was
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the word weird. And this is in
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I went through the trouble of
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term weird 41 seconds full of
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Unknown: Are you ready for a
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when and of all the weird things
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little weird with the Republican
campaign personally weird or

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that JD Vance is personally
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weird weirdness in a pejorative
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is a little weird, right? We're
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intrinsically. There is weird
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surface postcard of his weird
rambling Neff do some weird

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stuff. Part of What's so weird
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There's a lot that is weird. But
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of the weirdness of this
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this scam Pay surface level
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That's a weird thing. All of
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behavior, the weirdness of this
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Adam Curry: Well, now I'm very
excited to hear Scott Adams

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because he's the, he's the
hypnotist, and he understands.

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What's the term he always uses.
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something like, what's the term
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convincing people as strong not
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John C Dvorak: the chat room.
We'll come up with it as we play

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his interpretation. I'm not
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at least he's looking
Persuasion.

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Adam Curry: Persuasion
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John C Dvorak: he at least has
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may not be part of it. It this
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obviously cut stuff out. And
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I had to shorten it, because
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Adam Curry: can ramble long.
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John C Dvorak: He's Rambler. But
here we go. Here we go. This is

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what he thinks is going on.
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Unknown: the Democrats have
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use the weird the word weird
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Adam Curry: it's already working
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weird without even intending to
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Unknown: Yes, that's amazing.
You that's amazing. Well,

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apparently the Democrats who
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John C Dvorak: just gonna say
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this is all this all began with
JD Vance, calling the childless

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cat women. And that was
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fact, we've all known this idea
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25 years, which always had a cat
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nothing weird about it, but
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Unknown: the Democrats have
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use the weird the word weird to
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Trump. Now you might say to
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a weak, overused, weird word.
And Vivek Ramaswamy has a

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similar idea. He says, this
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the Democrats is dumb and
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election, not a high school prom
queen contest. It's also a tad

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ironic coming from the party
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inclusion, when on policy if you
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I'm going to tell you you didn't
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professional work. Remember when
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Clinton Trump election as soon
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speeches dark I said whoa,
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that word makes you fear without
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dark, who everything bad is
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all the bad fear that you have
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professional. Manipulation of
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good. Here's why you might not
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weird that word a lot. If you're
talking to a young woman about a

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topic that she's not interested
in Scott does and you say oh

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this or that happened? What is
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looking at her phone? Looking at
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you tell a story about a person
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usually done. What is the what
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phone say about that person?
That's weird. Weird is the

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universal word that young women
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fit their model and it's a good
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Adam Curry: Well, Scott Adams is
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know that but I have a young
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here for four weeks and she's
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age group and I have not heard
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John C Dvorak: This is a sketchy
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he has a counter to this whole
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told anything on on the Democrat
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was his argument is, if they
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capture the youth of America,
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because the women and it just
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community where the black women
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black men are are little
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going to be all in on Camela a
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Trump. I think the personally
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be 20% At least from what I can
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conversations. But this is but
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when when you're referring to
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doing, and he thinks that'll
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that this is going on. And it's
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overdone it. And Rachel, who
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Adam Curry: have two clips that
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you. I think people you know,
they're under estimating the

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intelligence of people,
certainly the people who call

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into C span and the hosts of C
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interesting. Let me see. Yeah.
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He's actually calling in about
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Black Journalists Association,
but then he gets to the weird

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Unknown: are you doing today?
The reason why you saw that

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interview is the real reason
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reelected as president. The way
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is the way he was, he has stood
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from North Korea. That's why he
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years that he was president. He
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people and he told them, This is
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story. Here's a headline in Wall
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events rally fans brush off his
controversies. What do you think

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of the pic by the former
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Well, I think JD Vance is a very
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am he's he's raised some
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thing and came from a poor
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something that these people are
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they have to find something of
something about the weird or

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something that everybody's weird
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their phrases now they must send
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has against the Republicans they
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where do they get that? Is that
a memo that goes out to everyone

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that's what makes you question
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one of them and that's against
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with these weird you know, and
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Where did where does this come
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he's weird you know it is if
people this anyone with any and

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challenges at all can figure out
that and most shops do this.

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That's what's right. What is so
bad about what am I going to

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pick on what Harris picks? Jimmy

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are referring to talking points
talking points that go out by

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the party officials that go out
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can they have their own talking
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send their little memo does you
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Adam Curry: so everyone seems to
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why this talking points it sends
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as proven in my favorite hate
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favorite hate listen pivot pivot
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Unknown: million bucks in a
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some of the middle lane you
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attack engine going. She'll come
under a bunch of warranted

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scrutiny that every candidate
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like this is a month long
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everything every lot of sex
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Kara this whatever called white
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sex like JD Vance. But go ahead
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With furniture. I'm not sure I
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accused of there. But anyways,
the I was asked to come on CNN

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tonight and talk about how weird
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Adam Curry: So they called him
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on CNN tonight and talk about
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our new talking points.
Certainly. Viewer you've heard

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about it. Come on. This is so
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John C Dvorak: Wow, that's a
good catch. Yeah, well,

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Adam Curry: I missed my hatless.
Um, so that's why I caught it

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now. I'm gonna move past weird
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another fabulous thing happen
and it's amazing. Kind of

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predicted by moe that they're
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race, race, race, race, race,
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racist, racist, black, black,
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racist, racist. And as witnessed
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can have more than 1000 people
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they certainly don't have that
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John C Dvorak: a good point if
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Adam Curry: here's the their
their basic free, are with

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credit cards. 100 participants
Pro is 100 participants out now

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it seems like the same business
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optional add ons 500 and an
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can have 1500. Or maybe maybe
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a number of invited people on
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the white dudes for Harris,
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enormous branding opportunity
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they should have called it
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just me next time called the
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bit of respect for him. He
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Adam Curry: I think it's really
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I live I'm of two minds about
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immediately create a stereotype
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one progressive policies that
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that want the Wonderful World
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believe in liberal politics. So
I like that, that that's a

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chance for us to say don't be
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them. But at the same time, it
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becoming so much more it's just
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politics exercise. You know,
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based on their their sexual
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their gender, and I think some
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think some of this is fun,
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ladies the black lady so I think
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they're all gonna get together.
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too much. But I think this is
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Adam Curry: It's funny. It's
great. Listen to who was on this

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white dudes for Harris call. By
the way, the the here's the

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because I got the the email for
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John C Dvorak: By the way, she
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purposes that racism is fun. It
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Adam Curry: I agree. Racism is
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ages. Here's the email together.
We aren't going to sit around

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and let the Maga crowd bully
other white guys into voting for

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a hateful and divisive ideology.
Because we understand that Magga

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with Magga everyone uses we know
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strong and positive role to play
in America shared future and it

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begins with all of us cutting
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reminding the folks who have co
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America actually means. We're
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you in this fight. So here's who
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amazing. The first guy who came
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you know, some activist for
Kamala. So they have all the

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white dudes on let's bring in a
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we're not too racist.

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John C Dvorak: No, he's
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for the day. Yes, Jeff

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Adam Curry: Bridges Mayor Pete.
Governor Roy Cooper. Blimey. See

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Governor Pritzker, Governor
waltz? Governor get Senator Gary

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Peters, Adam Schiff, Steny
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Galloway, he did go on Eric
Swalwell Lance Bass of the

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Backstreet Boys. Tim Daly, David
Hogg, who doesn't remember him,

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you might as well have just said
a bunch of rich white dudes for

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Kamala, and that and so I don't
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or however however many they
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that many on the Zoom call. It
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live so you could sit around,
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I would say Jeff Bridges was the
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Bridges was disappointing. He's
that he's a dude. He's like, Oh,

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I'm a dude. So of course, I'm
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Harris for President. Anyway,
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John C Dvorak: By the way, just
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him. Buddha judge is making the
strongest push to be vice

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president of all these guys.
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essay, which is in the vortex
substack.com The last essay I

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wrote, predicting it was going
to be Shapiro or Cooper Cooper

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dropped out. I can just go out I
mentioned budaj edge, but I just

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glossed it over thinking that
nobody in their right mind would

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pick him But I think they might
make that mistake of picking him

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Adam Curry: if this now here's
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all, there's no question about
what a man or a woman is. I

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didn't see any any drag queens
on the call, which was

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disappointing, or I don't think
there are any drag queen queens

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on the on the the cat lady call.
So all of a sudden we know

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exactly what a man and a woman
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I'm sorry as Scott Scott
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white. I've heard this
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John C Dvorak: That's something
that angers Horowitz by the way.

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Adam Curry: he, he's I'm not
really. I'm a Jew. Well, it's

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alright, because then he can
join Scott Galloway's call,

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which is Jews for Harris,

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Unknown: I'm getting involved in
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I'm worried that a lot of a lot
of Jews, including myself are so

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kind of rattled by October 7.
And we're concerned about some

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of what we perceive as anti
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left that it's pivoted a lot of
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of Jews have become one issue
voters. And what I'm going to

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try and do, and I want to do
something similar to what these

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guys have done, I've been
inspired. Because I don't think

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I think if you really put on
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think that that's in terms of
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but a sustainable piece would be
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Biden Harris administration, I
don't think they get nearly as

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much credit as they should, for
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Israel and immediately deploying
aircraft carrier forces over

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there. And also post when the
war does come to an end, make

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your Make Your Own Making it
now. post, post the end of the

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war, you're gonna have to have a
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peace force there and who is
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peace, you'll probably have to
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with Iran. Is that is that
Anthony Blinken or someone who's

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likely to be a future resident
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somewhere, which is a one in
three chance of any cabinet

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appointee of the Trump
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John C Dvorak: What is that all
about? And by the way, I said,

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Hey, I know if you misunderstood
me or not, but but Hora was

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irked by the fact that he thinks
that some Jews are considered

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non white. Yes.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's no, I
understood you perfectly.

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Understood you perfectly. Let's
just go back to Vance for

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John C Dvorak: seems to I don't
know what he right. I didn't do

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I have no no, no, he went clip
was confusing to me.

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Adam Curry: He went out because
he said you and he has a Jew.

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John C Dvorak: what did he say?
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Adam Curry: that we need Harris
to be president because they'll

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protect Israel. What I know
nuts. Well, he's saying the

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reason why is because you want
Anthony Blinken there. That's

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really what he said. entity.

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John C Dvorak: Blinken, the guy
who organized the 51 phony

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baloney intelligence agents to
say that Hunter laptop, the

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Hunter Biden laptop was Yes, I
know, fake. You're not kidding

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me.

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Adam Curry: I'm really divided
or torn about Scott Galloway

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because, you know, he identifies
you know, this, Hey, this is

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really identity politics. This
is no good. But he can't help

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himself because he has to suck
up to Kara to keep his job, I

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guess. Not that he needs it.
Guys got houses in London and

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Aspen and he's done quite well
for himself. He also gave away

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$50,000 on the college like, I'm
a white man. I'm Scott Galloway,

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and I'm going to match $50,000
if Mark Hamill will say, I'm

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Luke Skywalker, I'm here to save
you. Which of course Mark Hamill

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did. His the whole thing was so
pathetic. Now earlier they

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talked about this weird sex.
Yes. JD Vance. weird sex. Now

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they're literally taking memes
from the internet and

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propagating

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Unknown: them or it's been about
JD Vance. And there's another

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thing about him. I don't know
how to say this. Him having sex

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with a sofa?

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To do the romantic, romantic
interactions with seat cushions

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of the couch. I will we need to
point out totally unfounded. It

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was a joke that started on the
internet. But it took on a life

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of its own and then you had
people like the Associated Press

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doing fact checks on JD Vance
did not have sex with the couch.

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and but that's again, to our
point about you know, this stuff

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can end up not being true, but
it kind of like people decide

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that it's what they want to
believe and it plays into

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existing ideas they have about
someone. And so even though it's

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not true, it's kind of people
going well, like I believed it

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could be true. So therefore, is
it true even though you know,

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again, totally unfounded, you

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Adam Curry: know, so when when
there's something obviously a

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parody about Kamala Harris, this
was the BBC, by the way. Then

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it's like, Whoa, this is this is
dangerous. People might believe

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this stuff. But then once about
a Republican then it's like, oh,

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wow, that is funny. It's
hilarious. It's so great. Yes,

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we love it. So of course this is
all about discrediting JD Vance.

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his whiteness into it, and

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probably little religious
overtones. Let's go.

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Unknown: And in Louisiana, the
Daily Advertiser reports that

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the United States birth rate is
down as fewer adults want to

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have kids. According to a 2023
Pew Research survey, 47% of

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childless adults under 50 say
they aren't planning on having

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any children. Many younger
adults say they want to focus on

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other things instead, and raise
concerns about the state of the

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world and the costs associated
with raising a child. Some older

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adults say they don't have kids
due to medical reasons, or

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because they haven't found the
right partner and Molly is the

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stats. Are there more and more
Americans choosing not to have

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kids, which again, emphasizes
why JD Vance has comments about

448
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childless Americans, childless
cat ladies, by the

449
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Adam Curry: way? So they're kind
of conflating two things, you

450
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know, and this was 11 years ago
but he said yes there with our

451
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country is run by childless cat
ladies who are unhappy they want

452
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to make us unhappy. The other
thing he did it the way I

453
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understood it, I may be wrong is
he said Hey, we should stimulate

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people having children and we
should give them tax breaks for

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that which the the M five M has
now turned around into. They

456
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want to punish people who don't
have children, which is amazing,

457
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an amazing good amazing way of
presenting it's good I'll give

458
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them that to be so politically
damaging

459
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John C Dvorak: why they do what
is in the mainstream media use

460
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that same logic with this with
this money giveaway for student

461
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loans. Now, please,

462
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Adam Curry: let's choosing not
to have kids,

463
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Unknown: which again emphasizes
why JD Vance's comments about

464
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childless Americans childless
cat ladies to be so politically

465
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damaging damage. What's

466
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interesting is this is this
natal ism that comes from an

467
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authoritarian playbook. right
that there need to work. It's a

468
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playbook white.

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John C Dvorak: That associates
with Putin. Yeah, well, yeah,

470
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Adam Curry: there is a playbook
we get into it NATO is that do

471
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you say Do you said NATO? lism
NATO lism that's like being pro

472
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child I guess natal ism. That's
a good one. I look into that

473
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NATO lism natal is I've never
seen a policy

474
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John C Dvorak: paradigm or
personal value that promotes the

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reproduction of human life as a
as an important objective of

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humanity. And you have that but
but it's the term itself has a

477
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:26,190
negative intonation, natal natal
ism, like nativism? Yeah, it's a

478
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good, that's where they use it.
Yes,

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Adam Curry: Anita lism. Nice.

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Unknown: What's interesting is
this is this natal ism that

481
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comes from an authoritarian
playbook. right that there was

482
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the more white children, right.

483
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Nobody said that. Yes. But this
is

484
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Adam Curry: the point. It's all
about white Christian

485
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nationalism. Don't you
understand that?

486
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Unknown: There there need to be
more white children. Right.

487
00:27:47,910 --> 00:27:49,560
That's the idea that there's you
know,

488
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John C Dvorak: where did this
clip come from? What

489
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Adam Curry: outlet MSNBC
morning, Joe? Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

490
00:27:57,930 --> 00:28:01,830
Oh, now now, it's understood, of
course. But this is another one

491
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of those messages. This is the
whole racism thing. These guys

492
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only want more white children
that there

493
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Unknown: needs to be more white
children. Right. That's the idea

494
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that there's you know, this is
about great replacement theory

495
00:28:15,330 --> 00:28:17,550
racism, right. This is what this
is so.

496
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Adam Curry: So saying we should
encourage people to have

497
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children which we clearly need
if you want your Social Security

498
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be paid by anybody who's
working. But that's really great

499
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replacement theory because they
want white children. Okay,

500
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Unknown: placement theory
racism, right. Misunderstanding

501
00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:40,920
it for him wanting more
children. He wants a certain

502
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kind of, you know, racist thing.
So I would say, yeah, there are

503
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certain

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John C Dvorak: people are
disgusting. It's fantastic.

505
00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:53,400
Adam Curry: This is going in the
archives in 100 years, someone

506
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,390
will recover this

507
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:58,800
John C Dvorak: NBC. Yes. Yeah.
Okay. Well, let me just just

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interrupt a clip for a minute.
No, and mention. MSNBC. Rachel

509
00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:08,430
Maddow, do you know how much
money she makes a year $8

510
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Adam Curry: million.

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John C Dvorak: 24 annual as
reported by multiple sources,

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I'm going to read this. She
recently signed a five year deal

513
00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:20,760
with Rachel worth more than 120
million this is working one day

514
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,930
a week or $500,000 a show. We
had two executive producers for

515
00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:29,190
this show, which is Erin and her
bucks each for us. We're making

516
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:32,370
big dough party. Hey, but you
know what were some sources

517
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suggest the annual income could
be as high as 29 or 30 million,

518
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as reported by the mayor of MSN
or a report called Rachel mad

519
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dough. And this is on the on the
this is on the shoulders of

520
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,340
Brian L. Roberts, the CEO of
Comcast who doesn't even make

521
00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:53,880
that much his salary as it were
at least as of 2016. Maybe

522
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,510
higher now. Was 29 or 28 point 6
million she making Less than

523
00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:05,130
Rachael. So they're paying her
to just be a hateful person on

524
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the show. And you'll notice this
when she does her sketches. I've

525
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got a couple of clips I'll do
later. But when she looks down

526
00:30:11,670 --> 00:30:14,430
at the end of her bid, when she
goes to commercial, she looks

527
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:18,030
down with the most guilt ridden
look I've ever seen on anybody.

528
00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:22,170
She knows that she's cheating
the world. Well, she

529
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Adam Curry: knows, we're, we're
all vapor here, John, when when

530
00:30:25,650 --> 00:30:29,250
it's time for us to go, she's
going to be looking into a fiery

531
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pit of hell. And you and me,
we're going to be on the cloud

532
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laughing.

533
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John C Dvorak: Making the same
amount, the same amount.

534
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:41,070
Unknown: Don't misunderstand it
for him wanting more children.

535
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He wants a certain kind of, you
know, racist thing. So I would

536
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:47,940
say, yeah, there are certain
it's certainly true. And

537
00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:51,930
attacking people for not having
children is really cruel, right?

538
00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:56,490
Because some people can't have
children. Oh, you know, I have

539
00:30:56,490 --> 00:31:00,450
children and you know, can't
miss the window. So I do think

540
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:05,700
window Lee, just a very terrible
way to go after people. No,

541
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,040
Adam Curry: it's just, it's a
terrible way to go after people.

542
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:12,390
Well, no, the terrible way to go
after people is what's happening

543
00:31:12,390 --> 00:31:16,830
now because and it was a big
mistake. I think I believe the

544
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:20,670
guy who was in charge of Project
2025, at the Heritage

545
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:24,990
Foundation, he resigned he less
should have Yes, he's like, Oh,

546
00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:28,890
that was a mistake to put that
paper out. Now I have read. I

547
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:30,690
have read the paper.

548
00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:33,810
John C Dvorak: Now some Well,
900 pages really more

549
00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:37,290
Adam Curry: than 938. I think.
Now I'm going to be the first to

550
00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:41,580
say I skimmed through some of
the obvious chat GPT generated

551
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:46,680
stuff because they could have
done this in 90 pages. But it

552
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,880
was it was literally like here's
90 pages, put it into chat GBT

553
00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:55,560
so for sure, I know. None of
these people have read it at

554
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,340
all. Certainly not joy read from
MSNBC.

555
00:31:59,730 --> 00:32:01,710
Unknown: You won't have to vote
anymore. My beautiful

556
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:04,710
Christians. I love you
Christians. I'm not Christian. I

557
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:08,790
love you get out. You gotta get
out and vote in for us. You

558
00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:10,980
don't have to vote again. We'll
have it fixed. Oh, good. You're

559
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:12,000
not gonna have to vote.

560
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:16,110
Do you believe if Donald Trump
were elected next year, that he

561
00:32:16,110 --> 00:32:19,140
would try to stay in office
beyond a second term? I think

562
00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:22,050
we'd never leave office, there's
no question. Do you think he

563
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:26,340
would try to stay in power
forever? Absolutely. The stakes

564
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:30,540
could not be higher. Trump says
if he wins, you won't have to

565
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:36,780
vote anymore. We are laying out
the dangers of project 2025 your

566
00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:40,470
manifesto that would give him
that authoritarian power, limit

567
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:44,790
your rights and force you and
your family to change the way

568
00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:51,540
you live your life. And we begin
this special episode of the

569
00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:55,590
readout tonight with a dire
warning. See, over the next

570
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:58,920
hour, I will lay out the
greatest threat to the American

571
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,510
democratic experiment in modern
times. And it's called Project

572
00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:04,890
2025.

573
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,210
Adam Curry: So the you know, you
identified this, this obvious,

574
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:15,780
at best misreading of what Trump
said to a total distortion of

575
00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:19,680
the truth. And you even heard
you talk about on DH unplug,

576
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,130
like

577
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,530
John C Dvorak: because Horowitz
was bought into it too.

578
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:25,620
Adam Curry: Now, do you think do
you think he was really bought

579
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:26,250
into it?

580
00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:29,340
John C Dvorak: He was baffled by
it. He wasn't he didn't buy into

581
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,190
it. But he was baffled by it.
And once I explained it to him,

582
00:33:32,190 --> 00:33:34,710
it was fine with it. I have a
clip about this too. And you're

583
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:38,160
done. But I just want to say
yeah, yeah, I think he bought he

584
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,330
kind of bought into Oh, it

585
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:43,290
Adam Curry: works. So this so we
needed to do an intervention on

586
00:33:43,290 --> 00:33:43,620
him

587
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:47,640
John C Dvorak: that he's fine
with. I mean, it was just the

588
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,900
one this is just just this one
thing, okay. And this again is

589
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,410
on the shoulder of Brian Roberts
because this is one of his

590
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:59,340
people are getting good money to
it. She's not getting to 30

591
00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:03,510
million that Rachel's getting
but she needs to do this stuck

592
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:06,090
on there's no reason that these
people are making this much

593
00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:09,420
money. They're not bringing in
that much. Well,

594
00:34:09,450 --> 00:34:12,180
Adam Curry: now I'm going to
disagree with you because it's

595
00:34:12,210 --> 00:34:15,390
money from cable news is not
from the advertisements,

596
00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:19,080
although that's not bad. It's
from the cable fees. So they

597
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,720
have wide coverage. So they're
bringing in Big Bang, they got a

598
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,810
budget. It's just being you
know, the minute people stopped

599
00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:28,410
cutting the cable that's when it
hurts everybody, but they get

600
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,980
one two bucks per subscriber so
they have a fixed amount they

601
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:36,030
get every single month. So
bringing in more money on

602
00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:40,020
advertising doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter. And by the way,

603
00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:43,140
Elon Musk bought Twitter what
for the revenue for the profit.

604
00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:49,680
No. For power is for power. So
that Comcast guy, is it Comcast?

605
00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:53,370
Yeah, Comcast. Yeah, it's for
power. So this that's why oh,

606
00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:59,400
that's H L hunt. Had a 600 radio
stations for power. Doesn't

607
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,480
matter if you make money or not?
Jeff Bezos was a Washington Post

608
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,480
power Jhansi, Dvorak, Adam
curry, no agenda show power, top

609
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:16,050
power. All right, so then I'm
only slightly insulted that you

610
00:35:16,110 --> 00:35:19,470
insinuate that I did not read
all project 2025 Because I do

611
00:35:19,470 --> 00:35:21,240
that kind of stuff I've read to

612
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,060
John C Dvorak: do, but it's
boring. It's too long. It's

613
00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:25,110
dumb. It is

614
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:28,920
Adam Curry: it is boring and
dumb. And then the way Trump is

615
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,900
distancing himself from it is
disingenuous. Because there's

616
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,500
been it's very much a Trump like
agenda. There's some things I

617
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,520
mean, obviously was written
before Roe v. Wade was, the

618
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,110
document was overturned that
known as Roe v. Wade. So there

619
00:35:46,110 --> 00:35:49,740
and he's been very clear, but of
course, he's lying, that he

620
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:53,100
wants three exceptions and send
it back to the States. And, you

621
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:57,300
know, so in this is just Oh, no,
it's they want a national

622
00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:03,060
abortion banned. It's all lies
and disingenuous. But we bring

623
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:07,740
on the former executive director
of Planned Parenthood, Kelly

624
00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:11,940
Robinson, to talk about what she
thinks is the worst, the worst

625
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:16,230
thing in the joy read had the
printout of all 900 pages on our

626
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:20,220
desk, you know, this, is it,
this is it. This is what's going

627
00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:21,360
to kill democracy.

628
00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:23,160
Unknown: What do you find the
most alarming and the most

629
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,890
frightening the thing that you
want people to know about top of

630
00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:27,360
mind, you know, how they

631
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,990
are using the federal government
institutionalized bigotry

632
00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:34,440
structurally right. That he
would come into office and fire

633
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,310
nearly a million federal workers
career workers, right. That's

634
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:39,600
scary. No, that's

635
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,940
Adam Curry: not scary. That's
dynamite. Everybody wants

636
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:45,270
Unknown: that million federal
workers career workers. Right,

637
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:48,360
right. Scary. And they put foot
soldiers that would just carry

638
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,430
out His will. The idea that they
want to turn

639
00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:52,530
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, isn't
that what's supposed to happen?

640
00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:57,900
Isn't the executive branch
supposed to do what the laws

641
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,320
have, as written by Congress,
and the direction of the

642
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,290
president? Isn't that the point
now we call them foot soldiers,

643
00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:07,980
which they just don't like these
foot soldiers. That's scary.

644
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:10,230
Unknown: And then input foot
characters, and we just carry

645
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:12,960
out His will, the idea that they
want to turn the Health and

646
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,890
Human Services Agency into the
department of life and charge it

647
00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:20,430
with promoting heterosexuality
as a quote unquote, ideal family

648
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:24,300
unit, and then attach federal
benefits to those to those

649
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,600
criteria. That's scary. And I
think that's scary. It's

650
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,480
Adam Curry: scary that you
attach federal benefits. By the

651
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,890
way, we have federal benefits.
We have child tax breaks, and

652
00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:38,490
the people who would benefit the
most are black Americans. You

653
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:40,950
races, lady, please.

654
00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:43,590
Unknown: That's scary. And I
think ultimately, we're not just

655
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:46,050
talking about policies or
impacting specific communities,

656
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:49,410
though, that laid out quite
clearly in Project 2025. But

657
00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:52,830
over time, that is the
undermining of democracy. He's

658
00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:55,830
even saying out loud if you vote
in this election for him for

659
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:58,860
Donald Trump, that could be the
last election you have to vote

660
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:01,560
for is Dr. Maya Angelou said
when someone shows you who they

661
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,510
are, believe that the first time

662
00:38:03,870 --> 00:38:05,400
people always leave out the
first time. Yes,

663
00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:09,600
Adam Curry: yes. Yes, Queen. All
right. So now to bring in the

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most skit, the scariest thing,
scary, so scary, is the Robert

665
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:21,150
Jones, he's the director of the
Public Religion Research

666
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:25,410
Institute. He should know he
should know what's going on.

667
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,570
Obviously, this is a very godly
man.

668
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:29,250
Unknown: What's likely the most,

669
00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:31,860
John C Dvorak: there's actually
two sentences out of all this

670
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:35,400
900 pages that I think were the
most chilling to me to read, I

671
00:38:35,610 --> 00:38:40,560
read them here. An individual
must be free to live as his

672
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,030
creator ordained in order to
flourish. Our constitution

673
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:50,220
grants each of us the liberty to
do not what we want. But what we

674
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:53,910
ought. Now who gets to define
that ought the very next

675
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:56,280
sentence gives us a clue. The
pursuit of the good life is

676
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,090
found primarily in family,
marriage, children, Thanksgiving

677
00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,600
dinners, and the like. So that
other 900 pages that that's in

678
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,270
the foreword, this document that
what the other 900 pages really

679
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:10,350
are about that 1950s Norman
Rockwell vision of a white

680
00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:12,570
Christian America, you know,
with white Christian men and

681
00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:15,570
their heterosexual marriages,
kind of raining up here and

682
00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:18,360
everybody else knowing their
place. So

683
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:21,330
Adam Curry: if I can distill
what he just said, he said, What

684
00:39:21,330 --> 00:39:25,500
they want is white Christian men
at the top telling everybody

685
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:30,360
what to do. But the problem is,
I have the 900 pages in front of

686
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,860
me, and he didn't read the next
paragraph. So I'll just read

687
00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:38,520
that last bit. Again, our
constitution grants each of us

688
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,450
liberty to do not what we want
but what we ought. This pursuit

689
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,210
of the good life is found
primarily in family marriage,

690
00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:49,020
children, Thanksgiving dinners,
and the like. He omitted the

691
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:52,260
next paragraph. Many find
happiness through their work.

692
00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:54,960
Think of dedicated teachers or
health care professionals,

693
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:57,840
professionals, you know,
entrepreneurs or plumbers

694
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,900
throwing themselves into their
business. Anyone Who sees a job

695
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,810
well done as a personal reward,
religious devotion and

696
00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:07,050
spirituality spirituality are
the greatest sources of

697
00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:10,230
happiness around the world.
Still, others find themselves

698
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:12,660
happiest in their local
voluntary communities of

699
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:16,260
friends, their neighbors, their
civic or charitable work. The

700
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:19,230
American Republic was founded on
principles prioritizing and

701
00:40:19,230 --> 00:40:22,620
maximizing individual's rights,
to live their best life or to

702
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:26,190
enjoy what the framers called
the blessing of Liberty is this

703
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:30,030
radical equality liberty for
all, not just of rights, but of

704
00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:33,180
authority that the rich and
powerful have hated about

705
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:39,240
democracy in America since 1776.
They resent Americans audacity

706
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,990
in insisting that we don't need
them to tell us how to live. It

707
00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:46,590
is this inalienable right of
self direction of each person's

708
00:40:46,590 --> 00:40:50,580
opportunity to direct himself or
herself and his or her community

709
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:54,630
to the good that the that is
what the ruling class disdains.

710
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:58,890
And he just showed it to us
right there. Exactly. And by

711
00:40:58,890 --> 00:41:01,590
omitting what they actually
wrote, and this Jumoke didn't

712
00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:05,970
even get past the introduction,
what a joker. Anyway, we'll

713
00:41:05,970 --> 00:41:09,780
finish it up with the with the
dangerous for women and

714
00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:12,120
Unknown: for women, what are the
most alarming things because

715
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,550
obviously, a national ban on
abortion would be a part of it.

716
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:16,950
But there's a lot more to it. I
mean, the Comstock Act looms

717
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:19,860
pretty large, you could use it
in more ways than just to stop

718
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:20,220
abortion,

719
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:24,690
fundamentally reshape American
life for women in this country.

720
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I mean, you can see all of that
laid out in Project 2025. But I

721
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:31,170
do have to say this, it clearly
calls for a national ban on

722
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:34,710
abortion, they intend to make
that the reality. Also know that

723
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:38,670
in the ways that they're
defining the ideal family unit,

724
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:41,340
they are actually trying to put
provisions into, into place to

725
00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:44,370
control us in our decisions. I
mean, this Trad wife kind of

726
00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:47,220
housewife trying to trying to
promote, that's actually a

727
00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:50,070
system of power control over
women's lives. So let's be

728
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:53,130
clear, everything that we enjoy
today is our normal way of being

729
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,700
right from being able to work to
raise your kids in a way that

730
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:00,480
you choose to have a partner
that you decide and pick all of

731
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,990
that they're saying they want
the government to control it. So

732
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:06,930
let's be clear, this is a
dangerous dangerous document

733
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:08,940
that's laying out exactly what
they plan to do.

734
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:13,410
Adam Curry: Oh, lordy. What a
lie It's total. I can do you

735
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:18,120
mind if I just go into one more
quick set here because it stays

736
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:26,910
on the it stays on the bow the
the Trump thing?

737
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:29,700
John C Dvorak: If as long as
Yeah, cuz I do have a Trump I

738
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:31,440
have a clip to play about that.
So I can.

739
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,260
Adam Curry: Now you can you can
come in right after that.

740
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,430
Morning.

741
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Unknown: AMY GOODMAN clip. Oh,
no,

742
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:38,700
you

743
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:39,750
didn't say that.

744
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,790
Adam Curry: I tricked you. I
tricked you. Listen to what Amy

745
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:46,080
Goodman did.

746
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:49,620
Unknown: Republican presidential
nominee Donald Trump made

747
00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:53,640
headlines this week after
suggesting that this year's

748
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,210
election could be the last US
election if he wins in November.

749
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:01,500
Adam Curry: Can you believe
that? AMY GOODMAN did this. Amy

750
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,380
Goodman, democracy bully

751
00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:05,310
John C Dvorak: I do believe

752
00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:06,900
Unknown: you do believe less

753
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,290
election if he wins in November
Trump made the comment Friday in

754
00:43:10,290 --> 00:43:14,430
Florida at Turning Point actions
believers point. Any

755
00:43:14,430 --> 00:43:22,500
collusion out and vote justice
time. You won't have to do it

756
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:26,250
anymore. Four more years. You
know what? It'll be fixed. It'll

757
00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:27,060
be fine.

758
00:43:27,090 --> 00:43:30,510
For more on who's backing
Trump's efforts, we look at a

759
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:32,760
secret organization for the
Christians who

760
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,630
Adam Curry: are working. Oh no,
it's a secret organization purge

761
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:36,810
more

762
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:40,050
Unknown: than a million voters
from the rolls in battleground

763
00:43:40,050 --> 00:43:44,370
states and mobilize Republican
voters to back Trump. It's

764
00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:50,010
called Ziklag. news outlets pro
publica and documented obtain

765
00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:54,180
1000s of sick flags internal
files, and found the group has

766
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:58,680
divided its 2024 activities into
three different operations

767
00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:02,640
steeplechase which uses churches
to get out the vote, and

768
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,270
watchtower which aims to rally
voters around opposition to

769
00:44:06,270 --> 00:44:07,800
transgender rights.

770
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:12,330
Adam Curry: This is amazing. So
pro publica did a whole the

771
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:18,750
Expos a on Ziklag with they have
a website. You can download the

772
00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:22,590
stuff from the website. So the
scariest part there is

773
00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:26,670
checkmate? Oh no. So we have
Watchtower we have I forget the

774
00:44:26,670 --> 00:44:28,980
second one we have going we got
checkmate. They're going to

775
00:44:28,980 --> 00:44:33,000
purge the voter rolls and they
have a scary scary video about

776
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,750
it. The third

777
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:37,050
Unknown: operation called
checkmate focused on funding so

778
00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:41,040
called election integrity groups
as laid out in this Ziklag

779
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,260
member strategy video. Voter

780
00:44:43,260 --> 00:44:47,580
irregularities are rampid across
all 50 states, but especially

781
00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:51,330
pronounced in battleground
states. public polling confirms

782
00:44:51,330 --> 00:44:54,990
Americans have lost confidence
in electoral integrity. The

783
00:44:54,990 --> 00:44:59,010
federal election already in full
swing, and more must be done to

784
00:44:59,010 --> 00:45:02,160
ensure fair election Since in
the most affordable Republic in

785
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,760
the world, that's the purpose
behind operation checkmate, and

786
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,240
its practical approaches to both
get out the vote and clean

787
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,270
electoral rolls through our
coalition partners. Through

788
00:45:12,270 --> 00:45:14,730
these efforts, we have the
opportunity to play a

789
00:45:14,730 --> 00:45:17,940
significant role in the upcoming
election. Pro

790
00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:22,680
Publica report Ziklag mission is
to take dominion over seven

791
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,880
spheres of public life, which
calls mountains, business,

792
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,770
science and technology, family
arts and media, church education

793
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:32,670
and government. Oh

794
00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:35,520
Adam Curry: no, the secret
Christians are coming to get

795
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,570
you. They're gonna take dominion
over all of these mountains.

796
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:42,990
Let's bring in the pro publica
guide to explain Ziklag

797
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:47,580
Unknown: Ziklag is a secret of
networks of ultra wealthy

798
00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:50,340
Christians, conservative
Christians like it who

799
00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:53,640
John C Dvorak: just got this big
website if they could download

800
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,310
the whole thing. How secret is
that it's secretive,

801
00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:59,010
Adam Curry: this sneaky of ultra
wealthy Christians,

802
00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:04,560
Unknown: conservative Christians
who have this two part goal two

803
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,700
part vision for this country.
One is to get heavily involved

804
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,390
in the 2024 elections in the
ways that you just described

805
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:15,960
mobilizing pastors oh no
knocking people off the voting

806
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,350
room no non trans people
demonize hate conservative

807
00:46:19,350 --> 00:46:23,850
voters. But then looking toward
the 20 and 30 year horizon

808
00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:29,400
Ziklag school is nothing less
than moving the country toward a

809
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,390
state of Christian nationalism
are having biblical worldviews

810
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:38,310
quote unquote, biblical truth,
shaping influencing every part

811
00:46:38,310 --> 00:46:41,490
of American culture those seven
mountains that you describe so

812
00:46:41,490 --> 00:46:45,270
this really is, as one expert we
quoted in the story told us a

813
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:49,170
vision for Christian supremacy
Christian super is a new word.

814
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:53,130
Adam Curry: Christian
Christianity, Uber, Alice, yes,

815
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,850
we will get you we will
annihilate you. And then Amy

816
00:46:56,850 --> 00:46:59,520
asked the most important
question, what exactly is Ziklag

817
00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:00,150
Ziklag. The

818
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:03,630
Unknown: name refers to a
biblical reference about David

819
00:47:03,630 --> 00:47:07,800
taking refuge during his
struggle with King Saul. The

820
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,590
analogy here, of course, is that
the Christians in this group

821
00:47:10,590 --> 00:47:13,830
apparently feel that they are
under siege and that this group

822
00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:17,640
is their refuge. But then the
place from which they plan

823
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,480
their, their their campaign,
their assault, to take back

824
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,320
American culture,

825
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,860
Adam Curry: he missed a great
opportunity. Because the story

826
00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:30,540
of Ziklag is that David and his
small band of troops cut off the

827
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:33,960
hem of their garments, and made
it look like there were many,

828
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,440
many more of these secret
Christians than that was the

829
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,690
trick. I forgot to put that in.
These people are nuts. And I'm

830
00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:46,920
so disappointed in Amy Goodman,
I have no love for Amy Goodman,

831
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,170
but to introduce this secretive
group with a website with videos

832
00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:56,970
you can download, as you know,
as as part of Trump's master

833
00:47:56,970 --> 00:48:01,650
plan to never have Christians or
never have anyone vote again. Is

834
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:08,490
is just insane. And i i
Unfortunately, people like

835
00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:12,750
Horowitz now, although just
initially, and without some

836
00:48:12,750 --> 00:48:16,200
guidance from his mentor, fall
for it.

837
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:20,700
John C Dvorak: Here's my last
version of the same thing. This

838
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:25,530
is the never vote again. This is
again, the insincere guilt

839
00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:30,450
ridden Rachel Maddow doing the
bidding of Brian Roberts, CEO of

840
00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:36,900
Comcast. And here's her version
of that same, that same Trump

841
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:38,280
we're never going to vote again
bit.

842
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,160
Unknown: Donald Trump told an
audience on Friday night that if

843
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,060
they vote for him this November,
if he's voted back into office

844
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:49,890
this November, they will never
have to vote again. He told an

845
00:48:49,890 --> 00:48:54,090
audience on Friday to quote get
out and vote just this time. He

846
00:48:54,090 --> 00:48:57,660
said after this time, quote, you
won't have to do it anymore. You

847
00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:01,650
won't have to vote anymore. He
said, quote in four years, you

848
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:05,550
don't have to vote again. We'll
have it fixed, so good. And

849
00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:09,240
you're not going to have to
vote. Now, this is not the first

850
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,090
time Trump has told the campaign
audience that they will never

851
00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:14,790
have to vote again once they
vote him back in this time. And

852
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:18,000
that is as alarming as it sounds
for all the reasons that you

853
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:21,750
immediately think it is right. I
mean, he's positing this like

854
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:25,230
this is a happy thing. Oh, joy,
never having the burden of

855
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:28,470
voting again. Right. The point
of democracy is that we vote all

856
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:32,550
the time. And we like it. That's
how we decide what happens in

857
00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:35,580
our country. He's promising his
followers that he'll end all of

858
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:39,210
that. And it just, it's exactly
what you think it is. Could

859
00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:41,490
John C Dvorak: you please just
drop right at the end there?

860
00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:47,370
He's promising his followers.
He'll end all that. When does he

861
00:49:47,370 --> 00:49:51,420
ever say that to anybody that
he's going to end it? He doesn't

862
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:54,600
say that. What he says is you
don't have to worry about it

863
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,980
anymore because because he knows
that the Christian evangelicals

864
00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:02,610
don't like voting. or they don't
seem to get out much. And they

865
00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:05,130
don't have to go back again.
He's never says he's going to

866
00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:10,410
end anything that is a blatant
lie by her and misinterpretation

867
00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:13,500
of what actually happened. And
she does it on purpose. There's

868
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:17,970
no she's doing it on purpose.
She is not like it's sincere.

869
00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:22,110
Well, you know, I didn't
understand I'm pretty sincere,

870
00:50:22,110 --> 00:50:28,230
though. No, she's not sincere.
She is a liar. It's just It's

871
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:32,940
deplorable. It's disgusting.
Back How blatant? It is, I

872
00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:37,110
Adam Curry: think is I think is
funny. I mean, I still like to

873
00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:40,830
go back to that color. Not all
of the American public is

874
00:50:40,830 --> 00:50:42,840
stupid. Most

875
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,780
John C Dvorak: of the American
public is stupid. It turns out

876
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:52,260
well, we'll see. We're gonna end
up with President Harris. Go I

877
00:50:52,350 --> 00:50:56,190
have a when you're done. I want
to play a clip about Harris that

878
00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:58,140
I think needs to be played.
Well.

879
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,750
Adam Curry: I got one more one
more Trump bash.

880
00:51:02,370 --> 00:51:04,710
John C Dvorak: Number another
Trump bash bash.

881
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:07,860
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is Erin
Burnett back on the scene. Who's

882
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:11,940
on the ozempic back to her
fighting weight of the old CNBC

883
00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:12,660
days.

884
00:51:12,930 --> 00:51:14,580
John C Dvorak: Ah, she's looking
for work.

885
00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:19,770
Adam Curry: She's primetime.
CNN, um, she's fine. She's she's

886
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,100
she's in the in the Maddow
League. No doubt. No, she's

887
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,090
John C Dvorak: not 30 million.

888
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,750
Adam Curry: She's probably not
doing too bad anyway, who shows

889
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:32,760
up with some racist stuff?
Because who else who better

890
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,570
would know that? Former
President Donald Trump is

891
00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:39,840
racist. That his nephew Fred,
the breaking

892
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,810
Unknown: news, Donald Trump's
nephew going all in for Kamala

893
00:51:42,810 --> 00:51:46,350
Harris, Fred Trump telling us
he'll join Harris and her team

894
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:48,960
on a call this week, and that
he's ready to campaign for her

895
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,300
saying that she is the only
person who can move the country

896
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:53,700
forward. Fred Trump has publicly
for the first

897
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,780
John C Dvorak: she totally
Bridgegate moved the country for

898
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,090
let's bring Mary Trump on next.

899
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,240
Unknown: This guy's great saying
that she is the only person who

900
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:06,000
can move the country forward.
Fred Trump has publicly for the

901
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,820
first time breaking ranks with
his family, writing about his

902
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:11,490
relationship with Donald Trump
and his new book, all in the

903
00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:14,160
family and Fred Trump is out
front with me now. Oh,

904
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,660
Adam Curry: he's got a book.
Okay. The old book, the old book

905
00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:21,930
scam. All right. So he's going
to explain to us how he knows

906
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:26,130
that. Donald J. Trump is a
racist. So I

907
00:52:26,130 --> 00:52:27,600
Unknown: want to talk to you
about something you write in the

908
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,270
book you there's a moment you're
you're young, someone vandalizes

909
00:52:30,270 --> 00:52:32,640
Donald Trump's car. Okay, so
that's the setup. And then about

910
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:39,900
this moment, right, you say n
words is this is you. I recall

911
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:43,500
him saying disgustedly. Look
what the n words did. And then

912
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:47,970
you add, quote, Donald hadn't
seen whoever did this. So it's

913
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,850
it's twofold. It's one that he
didn't say who did it. He makes

914
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:54,300
an assumption about who it is,
what color they are, and then

915
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,690
refers to them as the N word.
His campaign says this is a

916
00:52:57,690 --> 00:53:01,170
fabricated story. I just want to
give you a chance to respond and

917
00:53:01,170 --> 00:53:03,240
tell me how this story has lived
in your life.

918
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,340
It's the absolute truth. And I
remember as if it were

919
00:53:08,340 --> 00:53:12,300
yesterday, he had a black roof.
He had a roll of electrical

920
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:16,830
tape, taping up the probably the
slash was about this, this long,

921
00:53:16,830 --> 00:53:23,700
two of them. And he was he was
pressed. And again, he just

922
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:26,070
assumed it was black people who
had

923
00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:29,190
Adam Curry: done that. And he
called them the N word. Okay.

924
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:32,880
Well, he remembers as if it was
yesterday, but he's a good guy,

925
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,920
this Fred Trump because he can
connect all kinds of things in

926
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Trump's racist life around this

927
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:46,680
John C Dvorak: before I looking
at this report on this, this was

928
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,170
in the 1970s. Yes,

929
00:53:49,170 --> 00:53:51,300
Adam Curry: he remembers it as
if it was yesterday.

930
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:58,500
John C Dvorak: I can't remember
anything from the 1970s. Okay,

931
00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:02,070
all righty, then I have a good
memory, believe me. Around

932
00:54:02,070 --> 00:54:05,970
Unknown: the same time, I had a
bike stolen. I lived in Jamaica,

933
00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:11,070
Queens, and three young black
kids that my age, took my bike

934
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,940
that wasn't going to put up a
fight. And the police called my

935
00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:18,120
mom and said we found the bike
and, and the person one of the

936
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,960
people who had done it. And she
called Donald because my father

937
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,830
unfortunately was not around. We
went to the police station. And

938
00:54:25,860 --> 00:54:30,660
Donald was adamant about the kid
being thrown in jail, which I

939
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:34,080
just couldn't take. I mean, he
was a kid my age. I didn't want

940
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,120
to be responsible for you or
perhaps I was 10. I didn't want

941
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,260
to be responsible for this kid's
life being changed. Flash

942
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:48,180
forward 17 years or so. Central
Park Five, same thing. He has no

943
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:51,150
evidence that those five young
men were guilty of what they

944
00:54:51,150 --> 00:54:55,350
were charged with. Yet he puts
out a full page ad asking for

945
00:54:55,350 --> 00:54:55,920
their

946
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:59,010
execution. Would you use the
word racist? To describe him?

947
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,480
I think he just believes in
things that racist people say,

948
00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:06,540
Wow, what is that he's

949
00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:09,120
Adam Curry: not a racist. He
just believes in certain things

950
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,950
that racist people say they're
pulling out all the stops on

951
00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:15,600
this one. So

952
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:22,380
John C Dvorak: in 1970 Fred
Trump, the third was eight. Yes.

953
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,800
And he remembers as clearly as
though you know, it was

954
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,880
yesterday. Yes.

955
00:55:26,970 --> 00:55:27,570
Adam Curry: As an

956
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,210
John C Dvorak: eight at the age
of eight. Yes. Okay.

957
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:34,170
Adam Curry: Yes. It's fantastic.
It's great. I mean, they are

958
00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:36,450
just, oh, my god, please.

959
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,640
John C Dvorak: He's the brother
of Mary. Of course. Yeah,

960
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,700
Adam Curry: of course. Let me
let me just stick with Aaron

961
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:45,750
because she had one more guest
on now this and do you have any

962
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:49,590
of the National Association of
Black Journalists clips because

963
00:55:49,590 --> 00:55:50,430
I got a few.

964
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:52,650
John C Dvorak: I do have one.
Right. Well,

965
00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:55,200
Adam Curry: let me see. I have a
problem. You gotta.

966
00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:57,240
John C Dvorak: You gotta find
another word.

967
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:03,870
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here's
the problem. Let me see.

968
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:07,860
John C Dvorak: This is not here
it is. I got it.

969
00:56:08,070 --> 00:56:09,150
Adam Curry: Is it a
backgrounder?

970
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:14,790
John C Dvorak: It's a it's a
NPR, NPR good. I don't have NPR

971
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,930
of NPR. It's it's an NPR short.
It's actually a short clip as an

972
00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:25,260
NPR clip. Where they were they
they? They can't keep themselves

973
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:29,940
from editorializing in the news
analysis. It's just like, you

974
00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:31,800
can play this if you want to. I
don't know if it's a good

975
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,320
background or not. It does kind
of it it kind of a background.

976
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,440
This is reamp at NAB J

977
00:56:37,470 --> 00:56:40,530
Unknown: former President Donald
Trump made some inflammatory

978
00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:43,680
comments about Vice President
Kamala Harris's racial

979
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,340
background today in a q&a at the
Black Journalists conference,

980
00:56:47,340 --> 00:56:50,880
the GOP nominee question
Harris's black identity. More

981
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,760
from NPR, Stephen Fowler at the
National Association of Black

982
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,250
Journalists convention in
Chicago. Trump's had many

983
00:56:56,250 --> 00:56:59,850
negative things about many
people. But the room gasped when

984
00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:03,450
Trump implied Harris changed how
she identifies herself in racial

985
00:57:03,450 --> 00:57:05,220
terms for political advantage.

986
00:57:05,250 --> 00:57:08,460
I didn't know she was black
until a number of years ago when

987
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:11,190
she happened to turn black and
now she wants to be known as

988
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:14,370
black. So I don't know. Is she
Indian? Or is she black

989
00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:17,730
Harris is both her father's
black and her mother is South

990
00:57:17,730 --> 00:57:20,610
Asian. Trump has a history of
calling out his political

991
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:23,970
rivals, including President
Obama and more recently, former

992
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:26,730
Governor Nikki Haley and
questioning whether they are

993
00:57:26,730 --> 00:57:32,070
quote American, Steve Wyler, NPR
News. Watch had that

994
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:34,800
John C Dvorak: question whether
they're American where does he

995
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,120
throw that in it? No one's ever
question whether American what

996
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,540
is what is that bit at the end
there? They then PR should be

997
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:45,480
ashamed of itself for letting
that debt piece goes through. He

998
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,090
never said anything about them
being American.

999
00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:53,070
Adam Curry: So I actually no,
there was no I saw this whole

1000
00:57:53,070 --> 00:57:55,500
thing because I happen to be in
the studio and like, Oh, let me

1001
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:57,780
just watch this as it was coming
in live. Yeah,

1002
00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:00,660
John C Dvorak: I watched it to a
couple of back roads. A woman

1003
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:03,660
from ABC was just mean. Well,
but then

1004
00:58:03,660 --> 00:58:06,060
Adam Curry: he had Harris on the
other side, she seems actually

1005
00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:10,890
like him. And, you know, the she
was the journalist all the way

1006
00:58:10,890 --> 00:58:12,360
on the right hand side. Yeah,
she's

1007
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,230
John C Dvorak: the fox girl.

1008
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,350
Adam Curry: Oh, she's Fox. Okay.
I thought she was ABC. Now what?

1009
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:17,460
No, no, ABC

1010
00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:19,800
John C Dvorak: is the one in the
blue at the open. Now, just

1011
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,920
Adam Curry: in general, I will
say that. I'm now this is the

1012
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,460
National Association of Black
Journalists. There was, I don't

1013
00:58:26,460 --> 00:58:29,850
know about audible gasp but
there was more clapping than I

1014
00:58:29,850 --> 00:58:32,100
expected for people

1015
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:35,640
John C Dvorak: that attended it.
felt that way too. And you

1016
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,490
Adam Curry: have to understand
and I understand it because of

1017
00:58:38,490 --> 00:58:44,130
my work with Moe, that the black
community as is known of so

1018
00:58:44,130 --> 00:58:48,180
called Black people understand
exactly what Trump is saying.

1019
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,140
And they know this because they
went through this with Obama.

1020
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:57,420
They knew Obama wasn't African
American Black is a DOS,

1021
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,570
American descendant of slavery.
No, but they let him slide

1022
00:59:03,570 --> 00:59:09,600
because of Michelle, who is
black, amongst other things. And

1023
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:18,390
he slipped it in another pot.
There it is. The pun. And so the

1024
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:21,120
real disappointment came was
like, Oh, well, the first term

1025
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,330
you know, but you know, he's got
Michelle so it'll work now and

1026
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:28,320
then instead of getting anything
for black America, they got a

1027
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,320
transgender bathrooms and you
can go listen to my facts with

1028
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,400
Adam curry. It's all in there.
So when Trump goes to a roomful

1029
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,110
of Black Journalists and says,
God, she's she's not black, and

1030
00:59:40,110 --> 00:59:44,700
she used to say that she was
black. In fact, here's a 22 Yes,

1031
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,450
John C Dvorak: I was gonna match
Are you gonna have this 2020 The

1032
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:49,200
2020s

1033
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,910
Adam Curry: CNN profiled and

1034
00:59:50,910 --> 00:59:55,140
John C Dvorak: did a whole 510
minute bid on her being Indian.

1035
00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:56,040
My

1036
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,350
Unknown: mother, who raised

1037
00:59:58,350 --> 01:00:01,710
me and my sister was a proud
woman.

1038
01:00:02,730 --> 01:00:03,930
She was a brown woman.

1039
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:09,660
A woman with a heavy accent. And
her mother Shamala Gopalan was

1040
01:00:09,690 --> 01:00:14,610
also the biggest influence in
Kamala Harris's life. In 1958, a

1041
01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:19,230
precocious 19 year old Indian
Gopalan traveled 1000s of miles

1042
01:00:19,230 --> 01:00:23,250
from her home and family to
pursue a doctorate in nutrition

1043
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,480
and endocrinology in America.
She soon became an active civil

1044
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,500
rights Crusader while studying
at UC Berkeley. In her book,

1045
01:00:31,530 --> 01:00:35,460
Harris says, There is no title
or honor on earth, I'll treasure

1046
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:39,390
more than to say I am Shyamala
Gopalan, Harris's daughter,

1047
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:43,440
Paris's visits to India with a
mother kept her connected to her

1048
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,070
roots. A grandfather who had
strong views on humanitarian

1049
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:50,430
issues, worked closely with
officials to reallocate

1050
01:00:50,430 --> 01:00:54,780
refugees. Paris's maternal uncle
Gopalan. Balachandran, who lives

1051
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:58,740
in Delhi tells us how the
senator turns to her Amma, which

1052
01:00:58,740 --> 01:01:03,000
means mother in Tamil for
guidance, even after her death.

1053
01:01:03,390 --> 01:01:03,870
I don't

1054
01:01:03,870 --> 01:01:07,830
have to tell her mother. She's
already telling me everything

1055
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:12,660
that I do I myself, Amma approve
of this timeline.

1056
01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:17,250
Hindi means lotus flower and is
an important symbol in Indian

1057
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:21,240
culture, rooted deep in the
bottom of the river, very

1058
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,650
similar to Harris's Indian
identity, which she wears on her

1059
01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:26,910
sleeve. So

1060
01:01:26,910 --> 01:01:29,430
Adam Curry: a couple things
about that that I liked. One is

1061
01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:33,090
her grandfather talks about
Obama. But these days Kamala

1062
01:01:33,090 --> 01:01:37,710
Harris talks about Auntie Yeah.
Which is, you know, that's

1063
01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:40,320
that's what you say if you're a
black American, oh, auntie,

1064
01:01:40,350 --> 01:01:43,110
auntie, no, but it's Alma.
That's what you she used to say.

1065
01:01:43,380 --> 01:01:47,130
And also, you know, what's been
going around is Kamala means

1066
01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:49,830
garbage gobbling you know, look
at it, put it in Google

1067
01:01:49,830 --> 01:01:53,430
Translate. But in Hindi, it
means blossoming flower, lotus

1068
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:56,100
flower, I guess? I guess they

1069
01:01:56,100 --> 01:02:00,270
John C Dvorak: didn't have Yeah,
I looked up the nose. Now. No,

1070
01:02:00,270 --> 01:02:03,690
it does. And it means it means
horrible in Finnish, and it

1071
01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:05,370
means horrible in Greek.

1072
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:10,650
Adam Curry: So, by the way, as
an aside, this whole racist now

1073
01:02:10,650 --> 01:02:14,910
not forget about that. So what
I'd like to do, because I have

1074
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:19,740
multiple versions of, of Trump
at the National Association of

1075
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:24,360
Black Journalists, perhaps it's
better instead of playing

1076
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,500
snippets, I would just like to
play the full first question, so

1077
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:32,730
called question and his answer.
So people can will emanate, if

1078
01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:35,820
not on a podcast where else so
people can get the actual

1079
01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:40,710
context of what happened knowing
that he was on time, they had an

1080
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:44,880
hour, he had a an Beata set
scheduled to leave, apparently,

1081
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,730
that they couldn't get their
equipment to work. So they

1082
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:52,440
started 3530 minutes late or 35
minutes late. Yeah, which is

1083
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,310
rude. And it's also lame,
especially for the National

1084
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:59,490
Association of Black
Journalists. You think that that

1085
01:02:59,490 --> 01:03:03,510
have it all together? I think
it's worth it. Just to listen to

1086
01:03:03,930 --> 01:03:08,670
how he was greeted, he walks in,
sits down. And everything else

1087
01:03:08,670 --> 01:03:13,740
you hear on the M five M is all
caught up. It's, you know, it's

1088
01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:18,480
it's just it's not honest. And
this is the honest audio of what

1089
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,050
happened.

1090
01:03:19,110 --> 01:03:21,750
Unknown: Mr. President, we so
appreciate you giving us an hour

1091
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:25,560
of your time. I want to start by
addressing the elephant in the

1092
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,790
room, sir. A lot of people did
not think it was appropriate for

1093
01:03:29,790 --> 01:03:33,810
you to be here today. You have
pushed false claims about some

1094
01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:37,500
of your rivals, from Nikki Haley
to former President Barack Obama

1095
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:40,140
saying that they were not born
in the United States, which is

1096
01:03:40,140 --> 01:03:43,740
not true. You have told for
Congressman women of color, who

1097
01:03:43,740 --> 01:03:46,410
were American citizens to go
back to where they came from.

1098
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,580
You have used words like animal
and rabbit to describe black

1099
01:03:50,580 --> 01:03:53,370
district attorneys. You've
attacked Black Journalists

1100
01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:56,460
calling them a loser saying the
questions that they asked are,

1101
01:03:56,460 --> 01:03:59,670
quote, stupid and racist. You've
had dinner with a white

1102
01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:04,260
supremacist at your Mar a Lago
resort. So my question, sir, now

1103
01:04:04,260 --> 01:04:08,010
that you were asking black
supporters to vote for you, why

1104
01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:11,490
should black voters trust you,
after you have used language

1105
01:04:11,490 --> 01:04:12,060
like that?

1106
01:04:12,330 --> 01:04:15,300
Adam Curry: So I mean, to be
honest, that's a pretty

1107
01:04:15,330 --> 01:04:21,990
aggressive opening. And what I
find insulting to my

1108
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:25,740
intelligence is he says that
stuff to all journalists and

1109
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:29,340
people, but she just says, Well,
you you said to black people,

1110
01:04:29,370 --> 01:04:34,080
you're she's highlighting the
black people. This is so this is

1111
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,260
racist. It's just that these
people are racist. The whole

1112
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:41,850
thing is unnecessary we don't
America is not racist like this.

1113
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,580
John C Dvorak: I will I have to
mention some of the I'm pretty

1114
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:48,720
sure it's not in the second
section you're playing is later

1115
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:53,460
he says he's talking about
immigration being a big threat

1116
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:57,390
and his taken away Black Light
jobs. Yeah. And she said we're

1117
01:04:57,390 --> 01:05:00,240
and if she does, this pulls the
snow what's a black job? because

1118
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,900
this is the thing, he says black
jobs that everybody's it's just

1119
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:07,380
a job that blacks have. It's
like white jobs, white jobs,

1120
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:09,330
black jobs doesn't make any
difference. They've taken away

1121
01:05:09,330 --> 01:05:13,020
jobs. It just so happens, you're
taking away jobs from blacks are

1122
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:15,840
taken away from whites and taken
away from Mexicans or taken away

1123
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:22,080
from everybody or Mexican
Americans. He is just another

1124
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,820
one of these misinterpretations
of his implicit, simplistic way

1125
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:29,940
of presenting it, some of these
facts. Okay. All right. So

1126
01:05:29,940 --> 01:05:30,960
Adam Curry: here's his answer.

1127
01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:34,440
Unknown: Well, first of all, I
don't think I've ever been asked

1128
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,480
the question. So in such a
horrible manner, first question,

1129
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:45,120
you don't even say hello, how
are you with ABC because I think

1130
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,310
they're a fake news network, a
terrible.

1131
01:05:48,330 --> 01:05:50,550
Adam Curry: I mean, there's
laughing there, he's already got

1132
01:05:50,550 --> 01:05:51,720
the crowd laughing.

1133
01:05:52,140 --> 01:05:57,600
Unknown: And I think it's
disgraceful that I came here, in

1134
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,920
good spirit. I love the black
population of this country. I've

1135
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,890
done so much for the black
population of this country,

1136
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,760
including employment, including
opportunity zones with Senator

1137
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,820
Tim Scott of South Carolina,
which is one of the greatest

1138
01:06:14,820 --> 01:06:19,890
programs ever for black workers
and black entrepreneurs have

1139
01:06:19,890 --> 01:06:24,480
done so much. And you know, and
I say this, historically, black

1140
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,080
colleges and universities were
out of money, they were stone

1141
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,860
cold broke, and I saved them.
And I gave them long term

1142
01:06:31,860 --> 01:06:35,880
financing, and nobody else was
doing it. I think it's a very

1143
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,810
rude introduction. I don't know
exactly why you would do

1144
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:43,560
something like that. And let me
go a step further. I was invited

1145
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,790
here and I was told my opponent,
whether it was Biden or Kamala,

1146
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,930
I was told my opponent was going
to be here, it turned out my

1147
01:06:51,930 --> 01:06:55,620
opponent isn't here. You invited
me under false pretense. And

1148
01:06:55,620 --> 01:07:00,120
then you said, you can't do it
with Zoom? Well, you know, with

1149
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,180
Zoom, she's going to do it with
Zoom, and she's not coming. And

1150
01:07:03,180 --> 01:07:05,790
then you are half an hour late,
just so we understand. I have

1151
01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:08,310
too much respect to you to be
late. They couldn't get their

1152
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:11,040
equipment working or something
was wrong. I would like think

1153
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,670
it's very nasty. Wife. I have
answered the question,

1154
01:07:14,670 --> 01:07:18,330
especially with another I have
been the best president for the

1155
01:07:18,330 --> 01:07:22,470
black population. Since Abraham
Lincoln. That's

1156
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:25,440
my answer. President Johnson
designed the Voting Rights Act,

1157
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:25,620
you

1158
01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:28,770
just start off a question and
answer period especially when

1159
01:07:28,770 --> 01:07:31,680
you're 35 minutes late, because
you couldn't get your equipment

1160
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,340
to work in such a hostile
manner. I think it's a disgrace.

1161
01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:35,910
I really do. Let

1162
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:38,220
me just ask a follow up sir. And
then we'll move on to other

1163
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:39,060
questions here.

1164
01:07:39,210 --> 01:07:42,360
Adam Curry: I mean, the whole
thing was was interesting was I

1165
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,030
thought it was he just says I'm
just gonna tell you the way it

1166
01:07:45,030 --> 01:07:49,200
is. And anyone who watches that
with with me Well, no, I mean,

1167
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,470
we I guess we have a great
portion of the population who's

1168
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:55,770
just all in on racism. Good.
Well, we get the government we

1169
01:07:55,770 --> 01:08:00,870
deserve beautiful bunch of
racism racist racist, racist

1170
01:08:00,870 --> 01:08:03,480
that all races is nuts.

1171
01:08:04,890 --> 01:08:07,290
John C Dvorak: And if you
listen, Chief when she went on

1172
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:12,090
to ABC News, Nightly News did
present I don't have the clip.

1173
01:08:12,090 --> 01:08:18,090
But when she presented the to
David Muir, she was just this

1174
01:08:18,090 --> 01:08:20,910
had that same grimace on her
face, and she was really she

1175
01:08:20,910 --> 01:08:25,200
just hates Trump. It's like, it
was just so obvious. It was

1176
01:08:25,410 --> 01:08:27,180
well, he was unbelievable. So

1177
01:08:27,179 --> 01:08:30,119
Adam Curry: Erin Burnett had had
her on as well, because now of

1178
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:32,279
course, you're a journalist. You
have to be part of the story.

1179
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,679
Now, isn't there some rule
against that? Like you

1180
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,720
John C Dvorak: never want to
you're not supposed to do that?

1181
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,410
Yeah, well,

1182
01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:39,390
Adam Curry: she's doing it.
She's gone the rounds, but I

1183
01:08:39,390 --> 01:08:43,590
didn't clip her. I clip the
Democratic strategist who's, I

1184
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:46,620
guess part of the part of the
movers and the shakers in the

1185
01:08:46,620 --> 01:08:50,250
Democrat Party, Aisha Mills, and
she summed it up and

1186
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,290
Unknown: Aisha Mills is with me
now. Right? I used to so you

1187
01:08:52,290 --> 01:08:54,720
know, you heard the he was
supposed to come for an hour,

1188
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,660
but you know, he's up to 35
minutes. I just can't emphasize

1189
01:08:57,660 --> 01:08:58,020
enough that he

1190
01:08:58,860 --> 01:09:02,190
Adam Curry: don't you just love
that. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He

1191
01:09:02,190 --> 01:09:03,180
was supposed to right off

1192
01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:06,030
John C Dvorak: the bat. They
lie. You know, your hair and

1193
01:09:06,030 --> 01:09:08,700
brunette lied right there on the
spot. Yep.

1194
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,700
Adam Curry: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Yep. Yep. That's what you do.

1195
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,950
That's what you do. That's why
we're here. And

1196
01:09:13,950 --> 01:09:15,990
Unknown: I Aisha Mills is with
me now. Right. I used to so you

1197
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:18,210
know, you heard the I mean, he
was supposed to come for an

1198
01:09:18,210 --> 01:09:20,970
hour, but you know, he sat for
35 minutes. I just can't

1199
01:09:20,970 --> 01:09:24,540
emphasize enough that he chose
to be there. He wanted to be

1200
01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:27,570
there. And he took his time to
go there. Right. All of those

1201
01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:31,830
things are true. So what do you
think is the outcome of this?

1202
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:35,879
Everywhere he goes, there he is.
Okay. Now,

1203
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,100
Adam Curry: now the John, we
have to remember this one.

1204
01:09:38,790 --> 01:09:43,890
Everywhere he goes. There he is.
So what do you think maybe the

1205
01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:45,780
lady writing Kamala scripts?

1206
01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:47,819
John C Dvorak: Only everywhere
he

1207
01:09:47,820 --> 01:09:49,080
Adam Curry: goes, there he is.

1208
01:09:49,170 --> 01:09:53,040
Unknown: Oh, come up this.
Everywhere he goes, there he is.

1209
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,370
Okay. Donald Trump is going to
Donald Trump everywhere he goes.

1210
01:09:56,370 --> 01:10:00,120
He's going to be Donald Trump.
He has always been John It's

1211
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:06,090
disrespectful and have such
disdain for the media, first of

1212
01:10:06,090 --> 01:10:10,410
all, for black people in general
and certainly for black women

1213
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:13,470
who are members of the media,
you can just roll the tapes back

1214
01:10:13,470 --> 01:10:17,250
and see how he's treated.
Everybody pretty much he was

1215
01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:20,790
black in his in his press room,
but specifically someone who was

1216
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:23,730
a friend of CNN April Ryan, the
nasty things that he has come

1217
01:10:23,730 --> 01:10:27,360
out and said about her. So I
wasn't surprised at all that

1218
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:32,490
Donald Trump sat there and was
so frustrated and just evil to

1219
01:10:32,490 --> 01:10:35,340
the people who were questioning
him and expecting him to answer

1220
01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:38,400
and account for himself because
that is something that he

1221
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,840
doesn't do well. He has such
vitriol and and a horrible

1222
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,770
recoiling at anyone who ever
questioned his judgment, who

1223
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:50,580
asked him to explain himself who
asked him to back up with facts,

1224
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:54,300
his positions, his attitude, his
beliefs, and certainly when it's

1225
01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:56,940
coming from black women, he
doesn't have any patience or

1226
01:10:56,940 --> 01:10:58,860
tolerance for it, and that's
what we saw on display.

1227
01:10:59,190 --> 01:11:01,170
Adam Curry: So here I'm gonna
show you these last two this is

1228
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,640
Nora O'Donnell. This is CBS This
is about him questioning. Kamala

1229
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,100
Harris is code switch, which she
did. Everyone sees it, her code

1230
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,750
switch into a black woman.

1231
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,530
Unknown: You just heard it.
Former President Trump says vice

1232
01:11:16,530 --> 01:11:20,550
president Kamala Harris happened
to turn black a few years ago,

1233
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:23,790
questioning the racial identity
as he takes questions from the

1234
01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:26,520
National Association of Black
Journalists. Good evening, I'm

1235
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,220
Nora O'Donnell and thank you for
being with us. We start tonight

1236
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:32,190
with a fact check. The Vice
President's heritage is both

1237
01:11:32,190 --> 01:11:35,430
Indian and Jamaican, but that
didn't stop the Republican

1238
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:38,310
presidential nominee from
accusing her of downplaying

1239
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:41,640
parts of her identity during the
combative interview in front of

1240
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,120
a jeering crowd. Remember,
Donald Trump rose to political

1241
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,270
prominence in part by falsely
claiming that former President

1242
01:11:48,270 --> 01:11:52,200
Barack Obama was not born in
America. CBS Nicole Killian was

1243
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,090
in the room in Chicago.

1244
01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:00,870
Adam Curry: So of course, we we
all know that the only time

1245
01:12:00,870 --> 01:12:03,690
you're black is when you vote
for Democrats, because Joe Biden

1246
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:08,370
said it said it's Charlemagne to
God. But here's the full report.

1247
01:12:09,690 --> 01:12:12,510
Unknown: There was no applause
as former President Trump walked

1248
01:12:12,510 --> 01:12:17,160
out on stage. Instead, it was a
mix of boos and some outburst.

1249
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:23,160
One question in the former
president quickly pin one of the

1250
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,550
moderators who asked about some
of his past comments,

1251
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:30,360
why doesn't he show his birth
certificate since you're racist?

1252
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:30,660
There's

1253
01:12:30,660 --> 01:12:33,540
some denigrating people of color
and black journalists.

1254
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,950
I think it was just crazy. I

1255
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:37,920
Adam Curry: know. I don't even
think they did even say that in

1256
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:38,400
the interview.

1257
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,280
John C Dvorak: Remember that but
it's just chopping it up. Yeah,

1258
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:41,640
well, that's

1259
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,560
Unknown: what you do to racist.
There are some

1260
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:46,410
denigrating people of color and
black journalists.

1261
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:52,410
I think it's disgraceful that I
came here in good spirit. I love

1262
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:55,590
the black population of this
country. I think it's a very

1263
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:56,940
rude introduction.

1264
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,360
Trump was then asked about
presumptive Democratic nominee

1265
01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:01,530
Kamala Harris.

1266
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,350
Do you believe that Vice
President Kamala Harris is only

1267
01:13:04,350 --> 01:13:06,270
on the ticket because she is a
black woman? Well, I

1268
01:13:06,270 --> 01:13:09,450
can say no, I think it's maybe a
little bit different. She was

1269
01:13:09,450 --> 01:13:14,040
always of Indian heritage. And
she was only promoting Indian

1270
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,340
heritage. I didn't know she was
black until a number of years

1271
01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:20,070
ago when she happened to turn
black and now she wants to be

1272
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:24,570
known as Black. Indian, or is
she black? And she was Indian

1273
01:13:24,570 --> 01:13:27,210
all the way. And then all of a
sudden she made a turn and she

1274
01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:29,400
went, she became a black.

1275
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:30,420
Just to be clear, sir.

1276
01:13:30,420 --> 01:13:33,330
Do you think I think somebody
should look into that too, when

1277
01:13:33,330 --> 01:13:36,870
you ask a continue in a very
hostile nasty tone.

1278
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,080
Trump's remarks sparked backlash
from Harris, who was the

1279
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,080
daughter of Jamaican and Indian
immigrants went through in

1280
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,320
historically black college and
is a member of a black sorority.

1281
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:49,740
Her campaign called it the same
hostility he has shown

1282
01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:53,370
throughout his life. The White
House called it insulting what

1283
01:13:53,370 --> 01:13:55,530
he just said, what you just read
out to me

1284
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:57,480
is repulsive.

1285
01:13:58,350 --> 01:14:00,570
Adam Curry: By the way, even
though I went to college for

1286
01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:03,810
three months, I actually plaque
pledge with the with the campus,

1287
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,750
I carried a brick around, I
guess, I guess I can say I'm

1288
01:14:06,750 --> 01:14:07,440
black now.

1289
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:11,430
John C Dvorak: You might as
well. Couple of things. One,

1290
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:13,530
where's Kamala Harris's dad?

1291
01:14:14,220 --> 01:14:16,020
Adam Curry: No, he's in Jamaica.
We got to keep them out of the

1292
01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:18,660
picture because of you know, the
slave ownership and all that of

1293
01:14:18,660 --> 01:14:20,790
his family as we got to keep
that quiet.

1294
01:14:20,910 --> 01:14:24,120
John C Dvorak: He's also rebuked
her. Yes, he has in a book.

1295
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:28,230
Well, he's rebuked Yes. And he
rebuked her more recently when

1296
01:14:28,230 --> 01:14:32,460
she when she made some joke
about smoking dope. Yeah. And

1297
01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:35,460
then and claimed it had to do
with their Jamaican heritage. He

1298
01:14:35,460 --> 01:14:39,540
thought that that was an insult
to stereotype. Yes, he went on

1299
01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:44,250
and on about it. He has not seen
her talk to her. They the family

1300
01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:51,720
broke up when she was three. So
she was raised in Indian. Raised

1301
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:56,730
in Canada. This is a this is a
hoax. This entire presidential

1302
01:14:56,730 --> 01:15:01,350
campaign by Kamla. Harris is is
basically a hoax on the American

1303
01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:04,770
public. Well remember, they're
sucking it up because the media

1304
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:08,250
has switched from Oh, she's no
good to us. She's the best ever.

1305
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:10,320
And, of course, this

1306
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:15,120
Adam Curry: offers opportunities
for potential vice presidential

1307
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,170
candidates to step up to the
plate. Here's Mark Kelly.

1308
01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:22,050
Unknown: Joining me now is the
Democratic senator from Arizona

1309
01:15:22,050 --> 01:15:24,660
and potential vice presidential
pick for vice president Harris.

1310
01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:27,150
Mark Kelly, it's great to have
you here as Senator, I know, you

1311
01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:30,900
have had a very busy day. But I
just I do want to know your

1312
01:15:30,900 --> 01:15:34,560
reaction when you heard what
Donald Trump said on stage and

1313
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,900
Chicago today questioning vice
president Harris's heritage?

1314
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:45,690
Well, Kailyn My first reaction
was, you know, this is the

1315
01:15:45,690 --> 01:15:51,000
reaction of a desperate and
scared old man. It's very

1316
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,490
obvious to me watching him and
just what I've seen over the

1317
01:15:53,490 --> 01:15:57,390
last week while she's been
across the country, just kicking

1318
01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:02,280
his butt, that he's afraid that
he's probably afraid to debate

1319
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,910
or he's certainly afraid to lose
an election to her in November,

1320
01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:09,990
and he's afraid about his own
future. So I'm not surprised to

1321
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:15,630
see it. And I understand the you
know, what he's up against, I

1322
01:16:15,630 --> 01:16:18,420
mean, he's up against an
experienced prosecutor, somebody

1323
01:16:18,420 --> 01:16:22,170
who served as the DEA and an
attorney general in the Senate

1324
01:16:22,170 --> 01:16:26,520
and now the vice president very
successfully. You put Kamala

1325
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,880
Harris's record up to Donald
Trump, but there's no comparison

1326
01:16:29,940 --> 01:16:36,030
and the contrast is just is
can't be more significant. Now.

1327
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,140
Adam Curry: I think. If you're
now she's going to do a speech

1328
01:16:40,170 --> 01:16:43,320
in Pennsylvania on Tuesday,
supposedly, she'll have her vice

1329
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,430
presidential pick, they're on
stage. I think Mark Kelly still

1330
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:51,720
in the running although I still
like most idea of Westmore to

1331
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:57,120
make an all black ticket just to
go all in on the racism. I'm

1332
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,320
gonna do a short clip. I'm
pretty sure it's neither going

1333
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,670
to be Shapiro or Whitmer. And
the reason I say that is because

1334
01:17:05,670 --> 01:17:09,030
they were both on the campaign
trail together.

1335
01:17:09,060 --> 01:17:10,770
Unknown: Michigan Governor
Gretchen Whitmer and

1336
01:17:10,770 --> 01:17:13,500
Pennsylvania Governor Josh
Shapiro were in Ambler yesterday

1337
01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:17,100
rally a crowd of more than 1000
people at a Harris or President

1338
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:20,040
event it was taken High School
Shapiro telling the crowd

1339
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,310
they've seen how close these
elections can be, with 55,000

1340
01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:26,490
votes between Pennsylvania
Michigan back in 2016. New

1341
01:17:26,490 --> 01:17:28,800
polling from Fox News shows
Trump and Harris essentially

1342
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,190
tied among registered voters in
Pennsylvania. The voting process

1343
01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:34,680
to officially name Harris the
nominee is expected to start

1344
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,500
this week as electronic ballots
will be sent to delegates.

1345
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,860
Harris's search for vice
president is ongoing. The list

1346
01:17:40,860 --> 01:17:43,500
of potential candidates getting
more narrow with Shapiro in

1347
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:46,530
Arizona Senator Mark Kelly said
to be among the front runners.

1348
01:17:46,710 --> 01:17:49,410
We now know North Carolina
Governor Roy Cooper has opted

1349
01:17:49,410 --> 01:17:52,170
not to be a candidate for
Harris's running mate. Shapiro

1350
01:17:52,170 --> 01:17:55,110
has vowed to do whatever he can
to help get Harris elected.

1351
01:17:55,860 --> 01:18:00,480
Kamala Harris knows real freedom
means worshiping where you want,

1352
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,200
living how you want, and
experiencing the bountiful of

1353
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,430
freedom all across this nation
in rural urban and suburban

1354
01:18:08,430 --> 01:18:12,000
communities. That is real
freedom and that is what we are

1355
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:17,070
fighting for. I don't think he's
gonna be it. Well, if he's

1356
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,280
John C Dvorak: should be the
front runner. I have some

1357
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,550
different thoughts on this. But
before we continue, I'd like to

1358
01:18:23,550 --> 01:18:31,980
play the Judge Joe Brown clip to
get another perspective

1359
01:18:31,980 --> 01:18:32,730
afterwards,

1360
01:18:32,730 --> 01:18:35,880
Adam Curry: who is Judge Joe
Brown. Brown is

1361
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,720
John C Dvorak: a famous he used
to be a prosecutor used to be in

1362
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:45,750
LA. He is a he's a TV judge, but
he's not he's a was an actual

1363
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:51,060
judge. And he's a personality.
He's an old guy. He's like 77

1364
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:55,470
and he's been saying he's been
blasted for this particular this

1365
01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:57,900
and some other things he's been
saying he's been going around

1366
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:01,770
podcast because he really does
not like Kamla Harris and he's

1367
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:04,770
run into her. And a lot of
people

1368
01:19:04,770 --> 01:19:07,740
Adam Curry: don't like her I
mean, even interns are coming

1369
01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:11,310
out and doing interviews saying
that oh, we couldn't look at her

1370
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:13,440
when she came in in the morning
and we've had to say good

1371
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:14,400
morning general

1372
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:19,950
John C Dvorak: Wow, that doesn't
actually doesn't surprise me

1373
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:22,530
right. Yeah. I have some
thoughts on the vice presidency

1374
01:19:22,530 --> 01:19:27,540
app but let's play and I would
not say for work clip I think

1375
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:31,350
maybe the you should cover your
children's ears. At least for

1376
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:34,530
the beginning and let's listen
to this was the podcast that I

1377
01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:37,050
just want to tell you which one
it was versus on a

1378
01:19:37,050 --> 01:19:39,030
Adam Curry: podcast that's where
all the good stuff is. That's

1379
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:41,730
where the meat and potatoes are
baby. This

1380
01:19:41,730 --> 01:19:45,630
John C Dvorak: was on I can get
my head here open. It was one of

1381
01:19:45,630 --> 01:19:54,810
the it was the art of dialogue
podcast. And he got blasted Vibe

1382
01:19:54,810 --> 01:19:57,660
magazine for this adventure.
This is only part of what he

1383
01:19:57,660 --> 01:20:00,540
said I like to get the whole
podcast and get some more clips

1384
01:20:00,540 --> 01:20:02,100
from it, but here we go. But I

1385
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:04,620
Unknown: gotta ask you about
Kamala Harris how you feel about

1386
01:20:04,620 --> 01:20:09,000
her. She's a piece a shit,
because in California, she

1387
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,380
lacked professional competence.
And she worked on it by hiking

1388
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:17,130
up her hem line when she needed
phones rather than researching,

1389
01:20:17,190 --> 01:20:22,680
she's always tried to do the
casting couch to get where she

1390
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,910
wants. Now the problem is, is
that we'll get somebody to a

1391
01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:31,320
certain level quickly, which
can't get past that level of you

1392
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:36,180
know, have competence and
talent. So my thing about it is,

1393
01:20:36,180 --> 01:20:40,830
is if I'm crude about it, in
this city years ago, I used to

1394
01:20:40,830 --> 01:20:44,160
represent a whole bunch of pimps
and hoes and I know a whole when

1395
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:49,560
I see one, and I say this, I
don't care woman you do what you

1396
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,770
want to do if you want to have
recreational sex, but when you

1397
01:20:52,770 --> 01:20:57,630
do the casting couch or anything
else for professional purposes

1398
01:20:57,630 --> 01:21:02,550
to get paid or advance you Oh,
and she's old hoe and the

1399
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:06,690
problem is is what is she
supposed to do? Somebody want to

1400
01:21:06,690 --> 01:21:11,310
hurt cinco five slaves comes up
on unwraps her in a carpet naked

1401
01:21:11,310 --> 01:21:16,230
Putin feet? And he says, oh,
yeah, do you CZ said know how I

1402
01:21:16,230 --> 01:21:19,740
got better stuff here already.
Plus, I don't watch any way you

1403
01:21:19,740 --> 01:21:26,430
oh, woman yet? Oh, no. You know,
z's in being is he's supposed to

1404
01:21:26,430 --> 01:21:30,060
be impressed. She's doing word
salad. Well, we're here today.

1405
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:34,830
Adam Curry: Yeah, we need to
have that whole podcast. Yeah,

1406
01:21:34,830 --> 01:21:37,920
there's a lot of people who feel
that way about Vice President

1407
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:43,620
Harris. A few more things just
before we take a break,

1408
01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:48,360
something that you know, Trump
did say in that National

1409
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,390
Association of Black
Journalists. He said, our whole

1410
01:21:51,390 --> 01:21:55,410
campaign was geared towards
Biden. So now we have to switch.

1411
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,890
I'm surprised by that. I'm
surprised by him saying it. I'm

1412
01:21:58,890 --> 01:22:02,550
surprised that they didn't see
that coming. And it seems like

1413
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:05,880
they were taken a little bit
aback that they had to pivot.

1414
01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:09,870
And they had a whole strategy
lined up against poor old Joe.

1415
01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:16,830
To, you know, to hammer him
down. Did you Did you hear that

1416
01:22:16,830 --> 01:22:18,360
part where you said that? Oh,
yeah,

1417
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,330
John C Dvorak: I heard that. And
he did. And I guess he was

1418
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:22,140
sincere.

1419
01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:26,490
Adam Curry: I'd take him at his
word. Yeah. Yeah. So now they

1420
01:22:26,490 --> 01:22:31,620
are doing what they can. And
this is a I guess it's either

1421
01:22:31,620 --> 01:22:37,950
super PAC or someone did A a hit
piece ad on Kamala, I don't

1422
01:22:37,950 --> 01:22:40,800
think it's I don't know if it
airs on television, because it's

1423
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:46,380
more than a minute. But here it
is. And it's it's well done. But

1424
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:49,530
I don't know if it's gonna, if
it's going to, you know if it's

1425
01:22:49,530 --> 01:22:51,810
going to come to the level of
the race card,

1426
01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:56,520
Unknown: a warning to America 25
ways the US has been destroyed

1427
01:22:56,580 --> 01:23:02,040
in under two minutes. One, open
borders and illegal immigration

1428
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,840
to rampant crime and unsafe
cities, three mass addiction and

1429
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:12,300
fentanyl for election insecurity
and interference. Five, the

1430
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:16,620
educational indoctrination of
children, six, the asymmetrical

1431
01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:20,940
weaponization of justice. Seven,
the destruction of private

1432
01:23:20,940 --> 01:23:25,800
property rights, eight,
inflation and debt, nine, the

1433
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:30,330
global depopulation agenda 10
record low fertility and

1434
01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:33,780
plummeting birth rates 11
unaccountable federal

1435
01:23:33,780 --> 01:23:39,840
bureaucracies 12 toxic food
supply 13 vaccine and Pandemic

1436
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,100
disinformation 14 The Trans
contagion and sterilization of

1437
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:51,060
children 15 over prescription of
pharmaceuticals 16 destruction

1438
01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:55,320
of the nuclear family and
parental rights 17 dei and the

1439
01:23:55,320 --> 01:24:01,320
new racism 18 moral and societal
decay 19 the financing of

1440
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:06,330
endless foreign wars 20 The
sprawling surveillance state 21

1441
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,090
the centralization and
consolidation of government

1442
01:24:09,090 --> 01:24:15,000
power 22 The destruction of
trust in institutions 23 the

1443
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:21,150
censorship industrial complex
and 24 state media propaganda 25

1444
01:24:21,210 --> 01:24:22,980
The smearing of those who
challenges

1445
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:26,640
Adam Curry: and they had good
images to go with it

1446
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:29,370
John C Dvorak: the Mission Log
2050 National one

1447
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,260
Adam Curry: they had good images
to go with

1448
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:34,740
John C Dvorak: it. So I think
that no that kind of thing

1449
01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:35,730
doesn't work no

1450
01:24:35,730 --> 01:24:37,890
Adam Curry: it's it's a vibe
thing is trying to get you know

1451
01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:43,290
the scary music and everything.
So the vice president Harris did

1452
01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:49,650
a rally in in Atlanta at the
college there and she had the

1453
01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:52,050
auditorium full I

1454
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:55,200
John C Dvorak: saw this this was
I would

1455
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,290
Adam Curry: say most of the
people there came because Megan

1456
01:24:58,290 --> 01:25:02,970
the stallion not just showed up
but she performed Megan the

1457
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:11,400
stallion is big news. I caught a
I caught a a tick talker a tick

1458
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,170
tock who had something to say
about this

1459
01:25:13,230 --> 01:25:14,490
Unknown: talk tick tock

1460
01:25:16,379 --> 01:25:19,079
Adam Curry: which is I'll call
her boots on the ground.

1461
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:22,260
Unknown: Okay just in case you
did not know it on yesterday

1462
01:25:22,260 --> 01:25:28,380
Kamala Kamala Harris had a rally
in Atlanta and it gave you like,

1463
01:25:28,410 --> 01:25:32,160
oh hyped for her like people are
so excited for her. I know you

1464
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,000
felt it I know you thought She
even brought out ratchet Megan,

1465
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,950
the stallion shaking her butt
working for political rally

1466
01:25:41,190 --> 01:25:43,860
talking about how these four
hairs that did not say you're

1467
01:25:43,860 --> 01:25:47,310
somebody like that is pandering,
like if you've ever heard it,

1468
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,380
but but that's not the Ketchum.
Do not let them rally looking

1469
01:25:52,740 --> 01:25:56,850
for for you. Because Bolton
County has been doing this for

1470
01:25:56,850 --> 01:26:00,930
years. Before the rallies, they
get bus loads, and they go pick

1471
01:26:00,930 --> 01:26:04,290
up the homeless people. They
offered them food drink and a

1472
01:26:04,290 --> 01:26:08,460
little change to come to the
rally. So the rallies will look

1473
01:26:08,460 --> 01:26:10,980
forward. Now you got to realize
she just dealt with the rally.

1474
01:26:11,130 --> 01:26:13,920
And I want to say what's
Pennsylvania where he was less

1475
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,970
than 60 people? It was quite
embarrassing for her. And so

1476
01:26:17,970 --> 01:26:21,300
that's not going to go down and
it's blackity Black 50. Okay,

1477
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:24,960
it's just not going to go down.
They are absolutely going to

1478
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,460
make sure that they look packed
out.

1479
01:26:27,090 --> 01:26:30,390
Adam Curry: I believe that.
Yeah. And she says that as the

1480
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:33,030
whole clip as long as you said,
Oh, that's what they always do

1481
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:35,760
in Atlanta. They always round up
the homeless people just like

1482
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:39,210
Governor Pritzker Pritzker and
Mayor Johnson are now moving

1483
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,440
illegals out of downtown Chicago
to the south side. So you won't

1484
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:45,300
see it during the convention.
That makes sense.

1485
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:47,850
John C Dvorak: We did that in
San Francisco was when she came

1486
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,370
Yes. Yes. So she came to see

1487
01:26:50,670 --> 01:26:54,090
Adam Curry: someone. We still
have the Biden issue. We have

1488
01:26:54,180 --> 01:26:56,730
Daddy Long Legs walking around.
Well,

1489
01:26:56,730 --> 01:26:59,250
John C Dvorak: before you can go
into that, since you brought up

1490
01:26:59,250 --> 01:27:05,910
this this ad with the 25 things.
I believe that the best ad you

1491
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:12,600
can play to slam Camela Kamala
Kamal on whatever Mojave

1492
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,870
pronounce racist, you're gonna
have to look this up. You're

1493
01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:18,480
going to put the engine in
because it's not on this clip

1494
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:22,530
list. But it's the Tulsi to
thought to the Tulsi 2020

1495
01:27:23,130 --> 01:27:25,680
debate, our E Harish clip I want

1496
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,750
Unknown: to bring the
conversation back to the broken

1497
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:31,890
criminal justice system that is
disproportionately negatively

1498
01:27:31,890 --> 01:27:35,850
impacting black and brown people
all across this country today of

1499
01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:39,360
Senator Harris says she's proud
of her record as a prosecutor

1500
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,490
and that she'll be a prosecutor
president, but I'm deeply

1501
01:27:41,490 --> 01:27:44,910
concerned about this record.
There are too many examples to

1502
01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:48,360
cite. But she put over 1500
people in jail for marijuana

1503
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,760
violations and then laughed
about it when she was asked if

1504
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,830
she ever smoked marijuana. She
blocked evidence. She blocked

1505
01:27:55,830 --> 01:28:00,000
evidence that would have freed
an innocent man from death row

1506
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,510
until the courts forced her to
do so she kept people in prison

1507
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:06,540
beyond their sentences to use
them as cheap labor for the

1508
01:28:06,540 --> 01:28:10,980
state of California. And she
fought to keep cash bail system

1509
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:14,880
in place that impacts poor
people in the worst kind of way.

1510
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:15,870
Thank you, Congresswoman.

1511
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:19,530
Yeah,

1512
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,270
Adam Curry: well, we'll see the
debate you

1513
01:28:21,690 --> 01:28:25,560
John C Dvorak: will see, you'll
never hear that. Republicans are

1514
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:26,580
no more competent to

1515
01:28:26,580 --> 01:28:29,460
Adam Curry: now. Now they're not
No I mean, I'm what's happening

1516
01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:32,850
here is it's obvious we just
have to make it look like she's

1517
01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:37,020
viable. So then when they cheat,
then if they can cheat better

1518
01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:40,290
than the Republicans are going
to cheat. I'm sorry. The

1519
01:28:40,290 --> 01:28:42,510
Christian nationalists with
their

1520
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:45,060
John C Dvorak: Zeke lobbying
ways

1521
01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:47,460
Adam Curry: they're Ziggler.
Secret zyk Law Group.

1522
01:28:48,660 --> 01:28:50,550
John C Dvorak: You know, the
senators go to church. Yeah.

1523
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,590
Adam Curry: Let me let me finish
my

1524
01:28:52,620 --> 01:28:55,440
John C Dvorak: Well, my boy, I
also want to get in my little

1525
01:28:55,470 --> 01:28:59,340
comment about the vice president
pick. Okay, before it happened.

1526
01:28:59,340 --> 01:29:00,000
That's important

1527
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,470
Adam Curry: because it leads
into this Yes.

1528
01:29:03,210 --> 01:29:06,810
John C Dvorak: It's possible
because you did more you read

1529
01:29:06,810 --> 01:29:10,290
about this Judge Joe Brown and
his experiences and what he

1530
01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:13,560
thinks of, of Camela and other
people that I've heard he

1531
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,670
Adam Curry: may get elevated.

1532
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:18,390
John C Dvorak: The other people
I've heard about Kamala being

1533
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:20,700
basically lazy. That's why she
pulled

1534
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:23,160
Adam Curry: up her skirt. Racist
racist.

1535
01:29:24,210 --> 01:29:28,500
John C Dvorak: She's basically
lazy as a just as a because she

1536
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:31,800
was if you look at Kamala when
she was in college earlier, she

1537
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:37,560
was beautiful when she's 60 now
but when she was 20 different

1538
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:43,740
different look. And there is a
tendency for pretty girls to not

1539
01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:48,690
you know, just coast and it's
possible that this is already

1540
01:29:48,690 --> 01:29:52,470
too much work for her going in
giving the speech interesting

1541
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:53,130
sake. I

1542
01:29:53,130 --> 01:29:54,330
Adam Curry: like it. I like it.

1543
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:57,810
John C Dvorak: She's got this is
getting too hard. Isn't she

1544
01:29:57,810 --> 01:30:00,510
can't use her looks anymore
because she's you know She's had

1545
01:30:00,510 --> 01:30:03,450
a facelift. We noticed that a
couple years ago, she's to try

1546
01:30:03,450 --> 01:30:09,210
and make herself look, she's not
60 looking, but she's 60 She

1547
01:30:09,210 --> 01:30:12,930
might sabotage your own campaign
and that would be putting in the

1548
01:30:12,930 --> 01:30:18,060
black guy that that mo thinks
could be worse election. That

1549
01:30:18,060 --> 01:30:21,600
would be a sabotage picks, you'd
be sabotaging yourself, or

1550
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,900
putting in Pete budaj Edge,
which would be sabotaging

1551
01:30:24,900 --> 01:30:30,540
herself. She might sabotage the
campaign herself, because she

1552
01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:33,300
really doesn't want this job.
Well,

1553
01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:36,450
Adam Curry: that's I like that's
very interesting. And it kind of

1554
01:30:36,450 --> 01:30:41,880
flows into what do we do with
Joe? Daddy Long Legs walking

1555
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,600
around is undeniable. There is a
guy who from time to time that

1556
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,070
is posing as Joe Biden, he is
noticeably taller. We don't know

1557
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:56,190
why it's so obvious that either
it's meant to come out. Or as we

1558
01:30:56,580 --> 01:31:00,450
know, they were in a real bind.
And the normal guys on vacation,

1559
01:31:00,450 --> 01:31:03,480
they couldn't get him back in
time. The CrowdStrike flights

1560
01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:06,540
made a problem. He missed his
flight misses connection. Yeah.

1561
01:31:07,470 --> 01:31:11,250
He couldn't come out strikes the
problem. CrowdStrike Yeah, yeah.

1562
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,240
Some of you didn't said, Hey,
maybe it's Obama with the mask

1563
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,470
going now? I don't think so.
It's funny. It's funny. But

1564
01:31:19,470 --> 01:31:22,140
Daddy Long Legs is walking
around. What are we going to do

1565
01:31:22,140 --> 01:31:26,940
with Joe? Now, if if Kamala is
going to sabotage, let's say

1566
01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:30,060
maybe someone wants to help her
and sabotage or the worst thing

1567
01:31:30,060 --> 01:31:34,050
that could happen, the worst
thing would be that President

1568
01:31:34,050 --> 01:31:39,000
Biden would die or have a stroke
or something, because then and

1569
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,720
if it would have would have to
happen pretty quick. Maybe I'm

1570
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:46,860
sure President Biden is going to
show up at the convention. It

1571
01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:50,880
could happen there. Because then
she would have to assume the

1572
01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:56,490
office of the president. That
would probably limit some of her

1573
01:31:56,490 --> 01:32:00,420
campaigning capabilities. But no
matter what, she will be blamed

1574
01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:03,840
for everything, particularly the
ramp up in the Middle East right

1575
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:07,500
now, which I don't think is a
coincidence that Netanyahu was

1576
01:32:07,500 --> 01:32:10,320
just with Trump and Trump's
like, you know, once you ramped

1577
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,830
it up a bit, so I can look like
a hero for the October surprise

1578
01:32:13,830 --> 01:32:17,520
when I negotiate a peace deal.
I'm just shooting from the hip

1579
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,050
here. But someone recommended
Tina and I watch a movie from

1580
01:32:22,050 --> 01:32:27,030
1993. I have a short clip of the
trailer. And I will explain how

1581
01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:32,070
this could possibly play out as
a an example of life imitating

1582
01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:32,520
art.

1583
01:32:33,570 --> 01:32:36,330
Unknown: The chief is the one we
all say, Hey,

1584
01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:39,300
Dave COVID was an ordinary guy.

1585
01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:44,760
Your government needs your help.
We just happen to look like the

1586
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,030
president. You're a very
handsome man. Famous president.

1587
01:32:49,380 --> 01:32:52,770
Just get rid of a grin. You look
like a schmuck. Something

1588
01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:54,060
has happened to the President.

1589
01:32:54,570 --> 01:32:55,500
What about the vice president?

1590
01:32:55,860 --> 01:32:58,140
The Vice President is mentally
unbalanced.

1591
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:04,530
Legal. Probably. Suddenly, Dave

1592
01:33:04,590 --> 01:33:05,730
has a great job.

1593
01:33:05,910 --> 01:33:08,490
I can't tell you the whole story
of a national emergency kind of.

1594
01:33:09,330 --> 01:33:10,620
You gotta help me cut them. So

1595
01:33:10,620 --> 01:33:13,950
Adam Curry: that's the movie
Dave, starring Kevin Kline and

1596
01:33:13,950 --> 01:33:17,550
Sigourney Weaver. And even
though it's not at all the same

1597
01:33:17,550 --> 01:33:23,790
scenario, what happens? The plot
of this is the the actual

1598
01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:27,240
president has a stroke. And
he's, he's a vegetable, he's not

1599
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:31,410
going to recover evil forces who
are actually running things

1600
01:33:31,410 --> 01:33:34,830
within the White House, kind of
like the chief of staff guy. He

1601
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:38,910
doesn't want to concede or cede
his power within the whole

1602
01:33:38,910 --> 01:33:43,110
system and in the world. So they
bring in Kevin Kline, who is a

1603
01:33:43,110 --> 01:33:46,950
lookalike, and he then plays the
president, he goes on to do good

1604
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:53,550
things. But the trick they play
is once the the President is a

1605
01:33:53,850 --> 01:33:58,050
David this case, but the
original president is accused of

1606
01:33:58,110 --> 01:34:02,250
campaign finance, corruption and
all kinds of shenanigans going

1607
01:34:02,250 --> 01:34:08,070
on. He does a State of the
Union. And he then fakes a

1608
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:11,730
stroke, they throw him in the
ambulance, they do a switcheroo.

1609
01:34:11,910 --> 01:34:15,180
And then they take out the
almost dead president, and then

1610
01:34:15,180 --> 01:34:19,620
he dies four months later, this
could be an awesome opportunity

1611
01:34:20,310 --> 01:34:24,390
to bring out Daddy Long Legs,
fake a stroke, and then bring

1612
01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:28,200
out the body and then make
Kamala president because they

1613
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,200
got to get rid of Joe somehow
they have to deal with the fact

1614
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:35,490
that he's incapacitated or dead
or, or whatever.

1615
01:34:36,090 --> 01:34:37,800
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to
see what happens on the first

1616
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,640
day of the convention, which is
coming up pretty soon, because

1617
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,640
that's when he's supposed to
give his speech. First

1618
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:49,050
Adam Curry: day, yep, first day.
Well, wouldn't be nuts if that

1619
01:34:49,050 --> 01:34:49,620
happened.

1620
01:34:50,730 --> 01:34:55,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it would be
nuts. Hey, I don't see it as

1621
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:55,440
dirt

1622
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:59,010
Adam Curry: pasture. COVID I'll
believe anything and everything

1623
01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:01,890
can happen in this world. Hold
on with that. I'd like to thank

1624
01:35:01,890 --> 01:35:03,930
you for your courage say in the
morning to you the man who put

1625
01:35:03,930 --> 01:35:06,570
the sea and crackers for Camela
say hello to my friend on the

1626
01:35:06,570 --> 01:35:08,610
other end the one the only Mr.
John

1627
01:35:14,580 --> 01:35:17,430
John C Dvorak: cranial morning
the ships at the sea and a boots

1628
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:19,740
on the ground the feet near subs
in the water the names of the

1629
01:35:19,740 --> 01:35:20,610
nights out there in

1630
01:35:20,610 --> 01:35:22,740
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls and the troll room head

1631
01:35:22,740 --> 01:35:31,650
on. That's not bad. We're a buck
36 in and we've got 2038 trolls

1632
01:35:31,650 --> 01:35:35,940
on the troll room. That's only
that's almost equal to the last

1633
01:35:35,970 --> 01:35:39,090
Thursday show that we did. So
we're on par good. Good to have

1634
01:35:39,090 --> 01:35:42,750
you trolls here that checking us
out at troll room.io You can log

1635
01:35:42,750 --> 01:35:46,650
in, listen to the live stream.
This is a 24 hour 24/7

1636
01:35:46,650 --> 01:35:50,310
operation. There's tons of live
shows going on. If not, it's a

1637
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,970
repeat of other podcasts all
parts of no agenda nation this

1638
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,200
the troll room has been around
for 15 years. Thank you void

1639
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,830
zero. Of course, you may be
listening on a modern podcast

1640
01:36:01,830 --> 01:36:04,230
app, we recommend that you do
that for a number of reasons.

1641
01:36:04,230 --> 01:36:08,250
One, you are protecting the
freedom of speech of all

1642
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:11,970
podcasters. Because if you use a
legacy app, you just might find

1643
01:36:11,970 --> 01:36:14,970
that your favorite podcast has
been D platformed. From Apple or

1644
01:36:14,970 --> 01:36:19,650
from Spotify. They do about
three a day. So you know you

1645
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,920
eventually it's going to be one
that you listen to. And for

1646
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,530
other reasons these modern
podcast apps notify you when we

1647
01:36:25,530 --> 01:36:28,080
go live. You get the bad signal.
You can listen you can't listen

1648
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,840
to a live show in Apple
podcasts. You can't listen to a

1649
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:35,490
live show on Spotify, right? No,
you can't. No, you can't. No,

1650
01:36:35,490 --> 01:36:39,240
this is a podcasting 2.0
feature. And by the way, you and

1651
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,840
I have been doing live to tape
with a live studio audience for

1652
01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:46,530
as long as I can remember, we've
always done a live whenever we

1653
01:36:46,530 --> 01:36:50,730
started the stream that was
probably about 15 years ago. I

1654
01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:53,070
John C Dvorak: just find it hard
to believe that you can't listen

1655
01:36:53,070 --> 01:36:55,950
to a live podcast on Apple. How
hard can it be?

1656
01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:58,770
Adam Curry: Because they're
Apple they have oh, I'm sorry.

1657
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,640
Void zero. Mark just says the
troll room has been there for 17

1658
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:06,030
years. He says actually even
longer we started it when you

1659
01:37:06,030 --> 01:37:08,310
did one of your last daily
source codes. That's how long

1660
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:13,740
it's been around. No, no. They,
they had they smoke their own

1661
01:37:13,740 --> 01:37:16,110
dope over there. And they're
good people that work there. But

1662
01:37:16,110 --> 01:37:19,680
it's a cost center for them. It
will make any money on Apple

1663
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:20,610
podcasts.

1664
01:37:21,210 --> 01:37:23,610
John C Dvorak: They just it's
just a loss leader. Be a

1665
01:37:23,610 --> 01:37:26,700
Adam Curry: loss leader call
away you want em they still

1666
01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:30,540
dominating, they still dominate.
But if you look, if you look at

1667
01:37:30,540 --> 01:37:34,710
this show, we have about 45% of
people listening on modern

1668
01:37:34,710 --> 01:37:39,720
podcast app. So booya. Also,
when we publish this the same

1669
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,720
for every single podcast, when a
new published when a new episode

1670
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,320
was published, you get notified
within 90 seconds, no waiting an

1671
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,500
hour or two hours or sometimes
eight hours for some reason.

1672
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:55,080
What Yes, it's another
podcasting. 2.0 invention. Sir,

1673
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:58,110
Sir Brian of London actually
started off it's called pod

1674
01:37:58,110 --> 01:38:02,430
ping, we have a hard Candidate
B, and apples welcome to

1675
01:38:02,430 --> 01:38:05,310
participate. By the way, they're
more than welcome. All these

1676
01:38:05,310 --> 01:38:08,340
protocols are open and freely
available. They could do it at

1677
01:38:08,340 --> 01:38:09,930
any time. So

1678
01:38:09,930 --> 01:38:12,300
John C Dvorak: it doesn't cost
them anything to upgrade to a

1679
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:13,560
system that works better.

1680
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:16,740
Adam Curry: In fact, it will
cost them much less because they

1681
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:20,430
now have to pull every single
one of the millions of podcasts

1682
01:38:20,430 --> 01:38:23,400
they have in their index to see,
you know, is there a new

1683
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:23,730
upgrade?

1684
01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:27,060
John C Dvorak: Is there an
update, they can save money, a

1685
01:38:27,060 --> 01:38:29,490
lot of money. And it's free.

1686
01:38:31,050 --> 01:38:33,630
Adam Curry: Free for anybody to
use? Yes,

1687
01:38:34,020 --> 01:38:35,760
John C Dvorak: it makes no
sense. All of the big names that

1688
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,950
you're saying makes no sense.
There must be something else

1689
01:38:37,950 --> 01:38:38,550
going on.

1690
01:38:38,970 --> 01:38:42,270
Adam Curry: But let me just
explain how it works. So the way

1691
01:38:42,270 --> 01:38:44,640
it used to work and it was okay,
when there were a couple 1000

1692
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,690
podcasts, you know, you just
your your podcast app, and now

1693
01:38:48,690 --> 01:38:52,230
it's Apple does it through their
servers through their index goes

1694
01:38:52,230 --> 01:38:55,350
to every single one of the
podcast feeds and says, Do you

1695
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:56,850
have any? Do you have a new
episode? Do you have new

1696
01:38:56,850 --> 01:38:59,820
episodes? And I do it every 15
minutes? Some do it more

1697
01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:04,590
frequently? And it's no okay,
no, no. And so in some cases,

1698
01:39:04,590 --> 01:39:07,380
they actually bringing in the
entire feed can be a megabyte

1699
01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:10,680
can be a couple megabytes worth
of data. So it's an incredible

1700
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:15,570
waste of resources with POD
ping. When you upload to your

1701
01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:21,090
hosts like Buzzsprout or
blueberry or rss.com. I mean all

1702
01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:25,020
of these guys, they then hit the
pod ping system, which you can

1703
01:39:25,020 --> 01:39:28,050
just sit there and say, oh, oh,
there's a new episode from no

1704
01:39:28,050 --> 01:39:30,360
agenda. And then you just go in
you and you update

1705
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,030
John C Dvorak: your database.
What if they missed the ping?

1706
01:39:33,330 --> 01:39:34,080
Oh, it's

1707
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,320
Adam Curry: retrofits you can
you can always go back and say,

1708
01:39:37,650 --> 01:39:41,310
give me the last 15 minutes of
pings or the last three days of

1709
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:44,850
pings. So there's no missing at
the pings or it's Believe it or

1710
01:39:44,850 --> 01:39:48,930
not, it's a blockchain. So the
pings from day one are there.

1711
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,950
Yeah. Blockchain it is mole.
It's an actual use of

1712
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:57,930
blockchain. I know. So, this is
the modern way of doing it. This

1713
01:39:57,930 --> 01:40:00,990
is this is why we are winning it
In the media war,

1714
01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:02,760
John C Dvorak: yeah, we're
winning everything but

1715
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:03,510
donations.

1716
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:06,180
Adam Curry: So we'd like to
thank people who support us with

1717
01:40:06,180 --> 01:40:10,140
value for value. This is no,
there's no $30 million for us.

1718
01:40:10,230 --> 01:40:13,140
But of course we don't have to
lie for it. We can go to bed and

1719
01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:17,280
think I'm a popper, but I'm
happy about it. That's the way I

1720
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:22,110
see it. You may have different
viewpoints but we put value into

1721
01:40:22,110 --> 01:40:26,760
the show I think we do pretty
good. We do a consistently I've

1722
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,190
been doing it for I'll it'll be
17 years in October.

1723
01:40:29,610 --> 01:40:32,070
John C Dvorak: And we well
actually we do pretty well.

1724
01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:34,560
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I want to
speak good or English than you.

1725
01:40:36,090 --> 01:40:41,910
And so we don't ask for anything
in return. Other than if you got

1726
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:44,670
any kind of value out of the
show anything at all, even if

1727
01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:47,670
you just laugh. In fact,
primarily if you laugh, hit us

1728
01:40:47,670 --> 01:40:50,070
up with some value back, you can
do it with time, talent or

1729
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:54,750
treasure. And one of the obvious
ways that people provide us with

1730
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:59,760
with time and talent is our
artists. They are busy during

1731
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:04,110
every single live show, trying
to come up with great ideas for

1732
01:41:04,740 --> 01:41:07,530
for artwork, because we believe
that that is what we know that

1733
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,590
that is an excellent way to
market the show because someone

1734
01:41:10,590 --> 01:41:12,990
sees it coming through in their
timeline. It's a laugh, like,

1735
01:41:12,990 --> 01:41:16,500
what are these guys doing? It's
a reminder that we're funny that

1736
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:21,060
we're a comedy show, but we also
deconstruct media. And we want

1737
01:41:21,060 --> 01:41:25,680
to thank the artists from
Episode 1681. We titled it daddy

1738
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:30,030
long legs and the exception to
the rule but we had a piece of

1739
01:41:30,030 --> 01:41:34,110
art that pertained to the title.
And this was for Matthew drop

1740
01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:39,990
code 1972. And he had Kamala
Joe, Joe one and Joe two right

1741
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:41,940
there with the height
differences in a lineup. It was

1742
01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:46,830
an AI piece. We thought it was
the best. And

1743
01:41:47,670 --> 01:41:49,890
John C Dvorak: it was a lot it
was before you say we thought it

1744
01:41:49,890 --> 01:41:54,660
was the best. There was a lot of
really good and usable pieces.

1745
01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:55,320
Lots.

1746
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:57,540
Adam Curry: So right off the
bat, we're gonna say we're not

1747
01:41:57,540 --> 01:42:00,780
going to put the Olympic rings
up there because that is I mean,

1748
01:42:00,780 --> 01:42:03,840
they're, they're taking down
videos, they're causing all

1749
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,780
kinds of problems for people
putting up anything Olympics.

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01:42:06,990 --> 01:42:07,350
Yep.

1751
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:10,050
John C Dvorak: So we can't do
it. Can I do it? The Olympic

1752
01:42:10,050 --> 01:42:13,410
Peninsula in New Washington when
they had the Winter Olympics,

1753
01:42:13,410 --> 01:42:18,600
they were they were sued.
Olympia, Washington was sued by

1754
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,620
these guys, these guys are nuts.
So you can't use the rings, you

1755
01:42:22,620 --> 01:42:26,130
will get sued and we don't need
that kind of aggravation. So

1756
01:42:26,130 --> 01:42:28,410
that's, that's out. Now

1757
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:31,290
Adam Curry: looking at the rice
President of the United States

1758
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:35,730
out of context of which it was
said was a little even too

1759
01:42:35,730 --> 01:42:40,290
racist for us. So that's why we
didn't use any of the rice and

1760
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,720
because no one you have to hear
the show to understand what it's

1761
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:49,530
about. There were a number of
tall Biden gags let me see

1762
01:42:49,530 --> 01:42:55,380
Darren O'Neal had Biden on
stilts we had what is this? Dame

1763
01:42:55,380 --> 01:43:01,230
Kenny Ben had, like, like a
mugshot wall with the two

1764
01:43:01,230 --> 01:43:03,030
Biden's Scarah.

1765
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:04,410
John C Dvorak: Manga had a good
one too.

1766
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,150
Adam Curry: What did he have
wanted? He

1767
01:43:06,150 --> 01:43:10,110
John C Dvorak: had a really
super tall, long laid kick. Yes.

1768
01:43:10,140 --> 01:43:13,710
Adam Curry: Yeah, he did have
Yeah, I had that one. There was

1769
01:43:13,710 --> 01:43:18,330
a lot of wood. There were a lot
of weird fingers. That didn't

1770
01:43:18,330 --> 01:43:19,530
work at all.

1771
01:43:20,910 --> 01:43:23,250
John C Dvorak: There was Trump
that arc de Trump arc

1772
01:43:23,250 --> 01:43:25,650
Adam Curry: to Trump, which was
good, but again, out of context.

1773
01:43:25,650 --> 01:43:28,710
You just don't get it. Yeah, it
was like going to be that was

1774
01:43:28,710 --> 01:43:31,620
Darren, that was a good AI
prompt job.

1775
01:43:32,010 --> 01:43:34,590
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
he did that with some believe. I

1776
01:43:34,590 --> 01:43:38,280
bet it was just got it down. I
told him he should go into

1777
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:39,450
business. Yes.

1778
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:45,270
Adam Curry: Ai images. Which,
you know, there's a new report

1779
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:50,850
out that shows that it's not
that it's not going to work,

1780
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:56,820
that you can do images. I mean,
there's it's a, it's a very

1781
01:43:56,820 --> 01:44:02,160
detailed report. But in general,
the the, the conclusion is AI is

1782
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,130
not going to get any better.
It's only going to get worse.

1783
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:10,770
It's bigger models, more models
on top of each other. It's just

1784
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,980
it's not working. All we're
going to have is some

1785
01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:17,670
interesting image generators,
and some chat bots. That's all

1786
01:44:17,670 --> 01:44:20,700
that's being we got a chat bot.
Here's another chat. I think

1787
01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:23,640
John C Dvorak: that's where it
that's where it's limited. In

1788
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,450
what, that's where it's going to
end right there. Yes, generators

1789
01:44:27,450 --> 01:44:30,210
that are that are based on old
stuff because you can't put

1790
01:44:30,210 --> 01:44:32,760
those images back into the
system because they grow hairs.

1791
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:33,690
Yes, they

1792
01:44:33,690 --> 01:44:36,990
Adam Curry: do. Grow hairs is
the right term to and

1793
01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:39,690
John C Dvorak: you can't do the
same with the with the

1794
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:43,140
information. It has to all be
frozen in time and then you have

1795
01:44:43,140 --> 01:44:45,030
to update with modern news

1796
01:44:45,090 --> 01:44:47,970
Adam Curry: and all it is just
chatbots it's just chatbots

1797
01:44:47,970 --> 01:44:49,020
that's it. We got to chat,

1798
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:51,240
John C Dvorak: and they stink
and the thing that you said

1799
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:57,420
about that 950 page report. It's
just a bunch of you know, yeah,

1800
01:44:57,420 --> 01:44:58,530
can be exactly

1801
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,970
Adam Curry: just as much a yak
yak yak yak yak. So thank you

1802
01:45:02,970 --> 01:45:06,990
very much, Matthew drop co 1972.
Good job. Thank you to all of

1803
01:45:06,990 --> 01:45:09,840
the artists all of them,
including Matthew drop Co. are

1804
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,950
Dutch masters.

1805
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,370
John C Dvorak: I did use sir
shoe bugs rice, President of the

1806
01:45:14,370 --> 01:45:18,240
United States, yes. For the
newsletter, but

1807
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,520
Adam Curry: in the newsletter is
within context of people who

1808
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,130
listen to the show. So I think
that makes total sense. By the

1809
01:45:23,130 --> 01:45:26,010
way, what I did not see maybe I
missed it. Did you put in the

1810
01:45:26,010 --> 01:45:29,250
link to the PDF for the city's
wealth book? So

1811
01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:31,680
John C Dvorak: I got called out
I forgot to do that. And I

1812
01:45:31,710 --> 01:45:35,940
surprised that when I sent the
thing in for approval that

1813
01:45:35,970 --> 01:45:37,200
didn't get oh,

1814
01:45:37,530 --> 01:45:40,530
Adam Curry: sorry. Do you know
that when you when you send me

1815
01:45:40,530 --> 01:45:44,820
the thing for approval, all
those images and all that other

1816
01:45:44,820 --> 01:45:47,640
stuff you put in there is never
in it? No, I

1817
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:48,930
John C Dvorak: know. Okay, so

1818
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,170
Adam Curry: how could I have
known? Well, I would have been

1819
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,410
John C Dvorak: I was going to do
it as a section, but it's going

1820
01:45:55,410 --> 01:45:59,310
in the next newsletter The next
because I got we got it down. We

1821
01:45:59,310 --> 01:46:02,880
got two different sources for
this called this cities of

1822
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,150
wealth. I had the I had the
title five cooked by guest my

1823
01:46:06,150 --> 01:46:08,250
memory going back 45 years was

1824
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:12,090
Adam Curry: it's actually the
city's wealth. The

1825
01:46:12,090 --> 01:46:15,180
John C Dvorak: city's wealth.
Yes. And it has to do with the

1826
01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:19,140
Berkeley in particular. And it's
fascinating you looked at I'm

1827
01:46:19,140 --> 01:46:20,190
sure that it's not and

1828
01:46:20,190 --> 01:46:24,240
Adam Curry: I put it in the show
notes under Kamala. So you can

1829
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:27,360
find her Kamala Yes. By the way,
I forgot to mention Happy

1830
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:32,970
Birthday MTV. MTV started on
this day, August 1 1981.

1831
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,320
John C Dvorak: Were you there
that day? No.

1832
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:40,290
Adam Curry: Well, it's so funny.
You know, the first VJ was

1833
01:46:40,290 --> 01:46:45,390
supposed to be Mark Goodman. But
even on the first day, and this

1834
01:46:45,390 --> 01:46:49,110
is so typical for MTV, they they
not built Hodson, now they

1835
01:46:49,110 --> 01:46:52,770
screwed up the tapes, and Alan
Hunter was the the first because

1836
01:46:52,770 --> 01:46:56,850
they pre recorded everything. So
typical for MTV to screw up the

1837
01:46:56,850 --> 01:47:00,780
tapes on their on their on their
first transmission. But there it

1838
01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:01,020
is,

1839
01:47:01,050 --> 01:47:03,450
John C Dvorak: it's a little bit
of history. Nobody knows. Yeah,

1840
01:47:03,450 --> 01:47:03,600
there

1841
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:08,460
Adam Curry: you go. There you
go. Now let us thank our

1842
01:47:08,460 --> 01:47:10,650
executive and Associate
Executive producers, the way you

1843
01:47:10,650 --> 01:47:13,980
can support us with your
treasure is by sending us any

1844
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:17,310
kind, any amount that represents
the value you get from the show,

1845
01:47:17,310 --> 01:47:21,450
we really appreciate it all.
From $1 to 10,000. It doesn't

1846
01:47:21,450 --> 01:47:24,630
matter whatever it value means
to you. And of course we can't,

1847
01:47:24,870 --> 01:47:27,750
we can't determine what that is
you only you can determine that.

1848
01:47:28,050 --> 01:47:30,630
We do like to thank our
executive and Associate

1849
01:47:30,630 --> 01:47:33,510
Executive Producers upfront just
like Hollywood does, you get a

1850
01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:36,540
real credit which you can use
anywhere. It is an official

1851
01:47:36,540 --> 01:47:39,570
production credit, you can even
put it on imdb.com If you don't

1852
01:47:39,570 --> 01:47:42,750
have one, you can open a new
account with that. $200 above

1853
01:47:42,750 --> 01:47:44,760
Associate Executive producer
credit and we read your note

1854
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,550
$300 and above and executive
producer credit and we read your

1855
01:47:47,550 --> 01:47:51,690
note we kick it off with Mr.
Black, who was in the race back

1856
01:47:51,690 --> 01:47:56,460
the Netherlands. And he sends us
a 333 donation plus fees, which

1857
01:47:56,460 --> 01:48:02,370
is wow. So it's 350 58 Pay Pal
does 20 bucks.

1858
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,160
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's why
fear checks are better because

1859
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:09,210
they are definitely better. 15
cents as opposed to 20 bucks. He

1860
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:15,210
Adam Curry: says ITM John and
Adam, it MCU brother. This is a

1861
01:48:15,210 --> 01:48:18,450
333 donation for the
neurogenesis show since you both

1862
01:48:18,450 --> 01:48:21,450
putting great value effort and
entertainment into the show

1863
01:48:21,450 --> 01:48:26,490
thank you. Birthday call out for
my daughter, Eva, who turns 13

1864
01:48:26,490 --> 01:48:30,510
on August 2 And he says for
failing steered mopey You are

1865
01:48:30,510 --> 01:48:32,970
the light of my life together
with your little brother love

1866
01:48:32,970 --> 01:48:36,570
always and health karma for all
the need keep on keeping on Mr.

1867
01:48:36,570 --> 01:48:36,870
Black

1868
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,560
Unknown: you've got karma

1869
01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:48,540
John C Dvorak: now we have Jean
amorphous in Bellingham

1870
01:48:48,570 --> 01:48:54,780
Massachusetts nuts 333 33. And
he sent not a note. You should

1871
01:48:54,780 --> 01:49:01,110
look this look at this. But a
memo. An official memo, a

1872
01:49:01,110 --> 01:49:03,120
Adam Curry: memo or we did send
a memo Yes I see.

1873
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,190
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's and
it's then it's pretty much

1874
01:49:05,190 --> 01:49:09,000
structured like a memo. Should
we I had this little aside when

1875
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,050
I was waiting for the airplane.

1876
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,240
Adam Curry: Wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

1877
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,570
wait, wait, wait. There's some
if you're going to talk about

1878
01:49:15,570 --> 01:49:17,760
your past. JC

1879
01:49:21,660 --> 01:49:22,380
Unknown: JC

1880
01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:26,760
Adam Curry: JCD storytime
everybody.

1881
01:49:27,210 --> 01:49:30,900
John C Dvorak: This is a weird
one. At least it is to anyone

1882
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:33,600
with the right mind. I looking
back on I thought it was

1883
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:37,530
fantastic. When you're working
for the government and the

1884
01:49:37,530 --> 01:49:42,540
administrative state or even
when you're not, you really try

1885
01:49:42,540 --> 01:49:45,390
to take as many seminars as you
can because there's somebody's

1886
01:49:45,390 --> 01:49:48,450
paying for him and you get to
take a day off free. It's free.

1887
01:49:48,450 --> 01:49:52,830
It's free to you and you get to
take the day off. If you want

1888
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:57,120
you get paid for did you get
it's just a money it's a way to

1889
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:01,380
go. So I took a seminar on money
memo writing.

1890
01:50:01,770 --> 01:50:03,180
Adam Curry: I've have heard this
story.

1891
01:50:05,250 --> 01:50:08,130
John C Dvorak: And they did, it
was a whole day of how to write

1892
01:50:08,130 --> 01:50:12,810
a memo properly. By the way,
this memo I'd say is 80%. close

1893
01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:17,190
to being proper. And I can write
my and I've written memos.

1894
01:50:17,550 --> 01:50:20,400
People are short on how to write
them. And there's a formula

1895
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,670
that's just dynamite if you use
it, right. And I just thought it

1896
01:50:23,670 --> 01:50:28,320
was one of the most valuable
things I've ever learned. And I

1897
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,170
would say this to anybody out
there, take as many of these

1898
01:50:31,170 --> 01:50:34,560
little courses and classes as
one day seminars and whatever

1899
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,680
you can, for whatever it's
about, because you never know, I

1900
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,590
thought the memo writing thing
was just gonna be like a joke.

1901
01:50:40,830 --> 01:50:44,250
And in fact, I find it very
useful. And I used it in fact,

1902
01:50:44,250 --> 01:50:48,960
when I was at Ziff Davis, I use
it to write memos to the bosses

1903
01:50:49,290 --> 01:50:52,350
that were just like, you know,
super professional looking man

1904
01:50:52,350 --> 01:50:55,410
was that had a lot of impact.
They have impact anyway. So we

1905
01:50:55,410 --> 01:50:58,230
have a memo here and I read well
there's

1906
01:50:58,410 --> 01:51:02,040
Adam Curry: there's a hold on
there's a cc two producers HR

1907
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,370
legal and sales everyone's on
this memo. Yeah, it's pretty

1908
01:51:05,370 --> 01:51:07,260
interesting regarding the fall
season.

1909
01:51:07,890 --> 01:51:11,010
John C Dvorak: Yes, it says to
John and Adam Fromm and these

1910
01:51:11,010 --> 01:51:14,430
guys little initials there,
which isn't really something

1911
01:51:14,430 --> 01:51:19,410
that a lot of memoir writers do,
Gene amorphous producer and then

1912
01:51:19,410 --> 01:51:22,860
he says the comments at the
bottom does that they don't need

1913
01:51:22,860 --> 01:51:27,270
that word comments there but
okay. After consultation with

1914
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:30,570
the appropriate producers, we
have green lighted your fall

1915
01:51:30,570 --> 01:51:34,650
season. I am sure you are as
excited about this news as we

1916
01:51:34,650 --> 01:51:39,030
are. Please provide episode
outlines and storyboards that

1917
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:44,010
your earliest opportunity, copy
sales, legal and HR for their

1918
01:51:44,010 --> 01:51:47,280
review and approval. We hope
that this year the no agenda

1919
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,760
show will be a leading contender
for the People's Choice podcast

1920
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:55,740
award walk. Once that is done.
marketing needs to have a

1921
01:51:55,740 --> 01:51:59,700
meeting to present some
merchandising concepts to you.

1922
01:52:00,030 --> 01:52:03,840
I'll reach out shortly to
schedule Oh, and as you would

1923
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,080
say there's some V four v
enclosed

1924
01:52:07,110 --> 01:52:10,110
Adam Curry: now he forgotten to
copy no agenda shop on this,

1925
01:52:10,140 --> 01:52:14,670
which is a mixer. And you must
know that all Podcast Awards

1926
01:52:14,670 --> 01:52:18,720
have an entrance fee requirement
which of course we refuse to do

1927
01:52:19,170 --> 01:52:24,240
because that's just a scam. All
award shows you have to pay to

1928
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,390
be nominated. So no

1929
01:52:27,930 --> 01:52:31,110
John C Dvorak: 333 33 from gene
that's very funny gene. Thank

1930
01:52:31,110 --> 01:52:31,290
you.

1931
01:52:31,500 --> 01:52:35,310
Adam Curry: The Highland crags
are in Colorado Springs Colorado

1932
01:52:35,580 --> 01:52:36,930
$240

1933
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,570
John C Dvorak: Way way we only
have two executive producers for

1934
01:52:39,570 --> 01:52:40,860
this show. Yes sir. Um

1935
01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:42,360
Adam Curry: That's it. That's
it.

1936
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:44,100
John C Dvorak: Well, that blows

1937
01:52:46,830 --> 01:52:50,160
Adam Curry: There you go.
Thanks. No agenda gentlemen.

1938
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:54,210
Keep up the good work love from
the Highland crags. Thank you

1939
01:52:54,210 --> 01:52:57,870
very much. Highland Craig's and
Associate Executive Producer for

1940
01:52:57,870 --> 01:52:58,140
you.

1941
01:52:59,790 --> 01:53:05,640
John C Dvorak: Dave Petron in
Washington, California. Oh, no.

1942
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:09,810
What is the Wait a minute? No.
Let's step up. West Virginia in

1943
01:53:09,810 --> 01:53:14,310
Canada. What what? What's the WV
in West Virginia? No, that's

1944
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:16,530
that's post that's the country
code right there.

1945
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:24,690
Adam Curry: Western Vancouver.
No, I don't know. I

1946
01:53:24,690 --> 01:53:26,820
John C Dvorak: don't know where
this guy's from. This is

1947
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:30,510
scrambled so we have no idea
where you're from Dave. Really?

1948
01:53:31,710 --> 01:53:35,490
He says hit no it comes to a
233 99 hit in the mouth March

1949
01:53:35,490 --> 01:53:40,170
2027 30. When's my 65th birthday
you're on the list. left

1950
01:53:40,170 --> 01:53:43,590
California. It says West
Virginia so this is some sort of

1951
01:53:43,590 --> 01:53:47,190
scrambled job. This is someplace
in West Virginia. He moved to

1952
01:53:47,190 --> 01:53:51,090
West Virginia last November to
be where his grandchildren are

1953
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:57,120
okay. Amazing what you get for
$400,000 which I would think as

1954
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:01,200
we bought recently build home on
two acres in the county nice

1955
01:54:01,230 --> 01:54:05,940
every probably country. Everyone
is so friendly and no one has

1956
01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:12,270
said don't wreck my state. Which
they do on the way they move you

1957
01:54:12,270 --> 01:54:17,070
move to Washington County say
that Oregon they all California

1958
01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:21,390
is when you move to what a lot
of states in the in the West

1959
01:54:21,390 --> 01:54:25,320
Coast they tell you not to
recommend Texas does that. He's

1960
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:30,120
wishes him wearing my Reagan for
President t shirt helps. So it's

1961
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:34,260
refreshing living where woke is
not cool. Our churches restroom

1962
01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:38,880
sign state biological males.
Thank you for all you're doing

1963
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:42,180
keeping us sane jingled. Don't
enslave me Camela

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01:54:42,210 --> 01:54:45,150
Unknown: don't enslave me. All
right.

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01:54:46,770 --> 01:54:50,820
Adam Curry: We have Anna EB EB
Yes. Last name rhymes with

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01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:54,210
Phoebe. She's from Milwaukee,
Wisconsin to 3385 This is a

1967
01:54:54,210 --> 01:54:59,220
birthday switcheroo donation for
John caliber. All right, let me

1968
01:54:59,250 --> 01:55:03,570
do this which Saru right here,
so we don't mess that up later.

1969
01:55:04,260 --> 01:55:07,710
Whose birthday is show day
Sunday August 4, but we tend to

1970
01:55:07,710 --> 01:55:10,650
listen the next morning. We're
in Milwaukee but often wish we

1971
01:55:10,650 --> 01:55:13,740
lived in a tougher to pronounce
locale and Wisconsin or Upper

1972
01:55:13,740 --> 01:55:16,800
Michigan. As we love hearing you
guys do your very best to

1973
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:21,990
pronounce caca Juana and
McKinney. Mackinac Island

1974
01:55:22,290 --> 01:55:27,120
Michilimackinac John has 25
favorite jingles but it's hot

1975
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:32,100
this weekend so let's do climate
gate and an F 35 Scream Anna EB

1976
01:55:32,190 --> 01:55:33,660
thank you both for what you do

1977
01:55:36,060 --> 01:55:37,380
Unknown: to the gate to the gate
to the clinic

1978
01:55:45,390 --> 01:55:49,740
you've got karma

1979
01:55:51,330 --> 01:55:55,380
John C Dvorak: that David's up
he's a new if he's up might be

1980
01:55:55,380 --> 01:55:59,610
sitting in North Little Rock
Arkansas. tu tu tu tu tu tu

1981
01:55:59,670 --> 01:56:04,200
Rolodex several ITM gentlemen
several episodes back Adam

1982
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:08,430
mentioned political figure from
the Netherlands with the last

1983
01:56:08,430 --> 01:56:09,870
name bring Nina

1984
01:56:09,870 --> 01:56:14,100
Adam Curry: Brink she's just
she's not political. She's I

1985
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:16,920
want to be careful. She's very
litigious, but she has been

1986
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,700
implicated in many issues in
publicly listed companies.

1987
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:25,290
John C Dvorak: Okay, not sure if
that's just the common name over

1988
01:56:25,290 --> 01:56:28,920
there, but I took note because
it is a Dutch national BMX

1989
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:33,870
writer named Jamie Oh, brink.
Now I don't know if he's any

1990
01:56:33,870 --> 01:56:38,820
relation but Jamie Oh, brink has
replaced replace the Dutch

1991
01:56:38,850 --> 01:56:45,330
reigning gold medalist niq key
man, and this year's Olympic BMX

1992
01:56:45,330 --> 01:56:49,020
does Wait a minute the Olympics
have a BMX competition. Oh,

1993
01:56:49,020 --> 01:56:49,440
yeah.

1994
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:52,470
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think they
think they have to bike through

1995
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:53,100
the sun.

1996
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:58,740
John C Dvorak: And he was forced
to drop out due to you guessed

1997
01:56:58,740 --> 01:57:03,390
it myocarditis boy. Anyway, I'm
sure all this is only

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01:57:03,390 --> 01:57:07,590
interesting to me. May I please
have some f 16 karma for my

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01:57:07,590 --> 01:57:10,890
upcoming national race in
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada this

2000
01:57:10,890 --> 01:57:15,060
weekend. Thank you. Rob
McCauley, aka sir fat dad of the

2001
01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:17,010
BM Mexicans. Yes.

2002
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:22,260
Adam Curry: So of course he
wants F 35 karma which is

2003
01:57:22,260 --> 01:57:24,600
interesting in the random number
theory because we just had that

2004
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:26,460
for John caliber. You go

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01:57:27,660 --> 01:57:31,980
Unknown: you've got karma

2006
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:36,450
Adam Curry: and we've got
Genevieve Genevieve Genevieve

2007
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,230
Wimberley from Liberty Lake
Washington. tu tu tu tu tu and

2008
01:57:40,230 --> 01:57:43,230
she says another row of ducks
armor might to honor my smokin

2009
01:57:43,230 --> 01:57:47,550
hot fiance Kyle the spook of
Spokane. We plan to get married

2010
01:57:47,550 --> 01:57:51,270
one month from today on
September 1. That's great. Thank

2011
01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:53,880
you, John and Adam for the
premarital counseling on the no

2012
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:57,660
agenda show. You're welcome.
We're cheap.

2013
01:57:59,340 --> 01:58:02,160
John C Dvorak: She said hey, in
particular, and she

2014
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,800
Adam Curry: says and we've never
had a fight. Can't wait for a

2015
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,790
lifetime more no agenda date
with my last best husband. Or at

2016
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:12,150
least four more years of them
yet karma if one of our favorite

2017
01:58:12,150 --> 01:58:15,420
places on earth. You got it?
You've

2018
01:58:15,420 --> 01:58:19,560
Unknown: got ah Harma

2019
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:27,600
John C Dvorak: sir Mary in
Tucson, Arizona. To the best

2020
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,540
podcast in the universe. Thank
you for all you do. Please wish

2021
01:58:30,540 --> 01:58:39,540
my son quarry. Sand, tea. Or
sand tight Santia Santia Happy

2022
01:58:39,540 --> 01:58:43,470
Birthday on the show date.
August 1 Also please de douche

2023
01:58:43,470 --> 01:58:43,860
him.

2024
01:58:45,630 --> 01:58:48,180
Unknown: You've been D deuced as
he

2025
01:58:48,180 --> 01:58:50,010
John C Dvorak: donated on
Father's Day but he forgot to

2026
01:58:50,010 --> 01:58:54,180
ask for a D douching. He'll be
31 jingles Camella don't come

2027
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:59,490
Trump gonna come and see you
know you big filthy minded

2028
01:58:59,490 --> 01:59:03,900
audience. It's just so so can
you see the juice makes it even

2029
01:59:03,900 --> 01:59:08,130
worse but okay sir Marv of the
naked potato says Marv not said

2030
01:59:08,130 --> 01:59:10,740
Mary on the other day. Wait a
minute now it's Oh, it's always

2031
01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:15,600
been sir. maarif Sorry, sir.
Sorry, sir. Mars. Marriage marry

2032
01:59:16,290 --> 01:59:19,830
Adam Curry: by Lamar biological
knights only please come.

2033
01:59:19,890 --> 01:59:20,820
Unknown: I'm gonna come.

2034
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:22,950
Oh my gosh.

2035
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,860
Can you see that juice? You
guys?

2036
01:59:25,860 --> 01:59:28,770
John C Dvorak: Yeah, now? I'm
gonna go back to Sir Mary. Yeah.

2037
01:59:30,420 --> 01:59:33,960
Adam Curry: Hey, Eli, the coffee
guy pops in from Bensenville

2038
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:37,950
Illinois. He says the first week
of August is World breastfeeding

2039
01:59:37,950 --> 01:59:42,690
week. Hurrah for the Tatas as my
wife Jen says Cheers to all the

2040
01:59:42,690 --> 01:59:47,640
mothers who love and dedication
whose love and dedication keep

2041
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:52,800
the children fed. Can I get a
boobs jingle Oh, I guess

2042
01:59:57,090 --> 02:00:00,240
regardless of what type of cream
you use in your coffee or If you

2043
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:04,080
just drink it black visit
gigawatt coffee roasters.com and

2044
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:08,220
use code ITM 20 for 20% off your
order. Stay caffeinated says

2045
02:00:08,250 --> 02:00:14,340
Eli, the coffee guy, and I will
do this note from Lynn let me

2046
02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:16,170
see is this from Lynn Yeah, I

2047
02:00:16,170 --> 02:00:17,370
John C Dvorak: can do that. I
can do that.

2048
02:00:17,610 --> 02:00:20,850
Adam Curry: I thought well then
you have oh, yes, you can. I'm

2049
02:00:20,850 --> 02:00:24,030
sorry. Go ahead. Do the notes
from let's do the second time.

2050
02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:27,600
John C Dvorak: Oh, please. Lynn.
Lynn, where are you?

2051
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,630
Adam Curry: Yes. See, I had it
all ready to go but okay. You

2052
02:00:30,660 --> 02:00:32,940
please do Lynne Well,

2053
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:37,230
John C Dvorak: I don't have it.
I do. I do. I do. I do. This is

2054
02:00:37,230 --> 02:00:41,310
my f cancer donation. Lynne
writes, Lynne, by the way, comes

2055
02:00:41,310 --> 02:00:47,040
in with $200.95. This is my f
cancer donation. My last day of

2056
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:51,060
chemo consumer goods terrible
coincides with episodes.

2057
02:00:52,950 --> 02:00:55,110
Adam Curry: chemo, and

2058
02:00:55,110 --> 02:00:58,140
John C Dvorak: I'm treating
myself to a producer credit to

2059
02:00:58,140 --> 02:01:00,930
make the occasion like Marcy
occasion.

2060
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:03,330
Unknown: Oh, yes.

2061
02:01:04,710 --> 02:01:08,430
John C Dvorak: Thank you. I'd
also like to credit this as a

2062
02:01:08,970 --> 02:01:10,620
Bernhardt. Donation.

2063
02:01:10,650 --> 02:01:14,250
Adam Curry: Yes. The Bernhard
podcast. Oh,

2064
02:01:14,460 --> 02:01:15,060
John C Dvorak: I never heard of

2065
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:17,460
Adam Curry: the bell. Yeah. The
burner is a great She's an

2066
02:01:17,460 --> 02:01:20,730
American living in Italy. She
has a great podcast. No if

2067
02:01:20,730 --> 02:01:24,240
you've been on it. No value for
value. I don't think she has

2068
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:25,800
guests. Maybe she does. I don't
know.

2069
02:01:26,490 --> 02:01:30,720
John C Dvorak: My cousin Kessel
junkie. Hit me in the mouth a

2070
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:34,380
couple of years ago and I've
been listening ever since. Thank

2071
02:01:34,380 --> 02:01:39,660
you for your courage. No karma
or jingles. Viva Cristo Rey. Oh,

2072
02:01:39,660 --> 02:01:41,070
Viva Cristo Rey. That's

2073
02:01:41,070 --> 02:01:41,700
Adam Curry: what, by

2074
02:01:41,700 --> 02:01:46,500
John C Dvorak: the way. 70
threes K 04. Or kitten I'm

2075
02:01:46,500 --> 02:01:50,970
sorry. K Oh, four VNW. She says
she's a ham.

2076
02:01:51,030 --> 02:01:53,790
Adam Curry: All right. And she
doesn't know she I thought she

2077
02:01:53,790 --> 02:01:58,230
wanted an F karma. She wanted no
karma or jingle. So we will we

2078
02:01:58,230 --> 02:02:02,940
will honor that. And 73 kilo
five alpha, Charlie, Charlie

2079
02:02:02,940 --> 02:02:05,640
beaconing. Every 15 minutes I'm
var AC.

2080
02:02:07,140 --> 02:02:10,530
John C Dvorak: And then we have
what was and that's good to

2081
02:02:10,530 --> 02:02:11,610
know. Yeah. Well,

2082
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:15,000
Adam Curry: so people can pick
up my beacon. And then what

2083
02:02:15,180 --> 02:02:18,210
beacon back is this is a cool
system. You can actually if you

2084
02:02:18,210 --> 02:02:21,300
see me if you see my beacon, you
can send me a message and it

2085
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:24,510
automatically receives and then
you know, and then when next

2086
02:02:24,510 --> 02:02:26,910
time I check out my Hamrick
there'll be a message for you

2087
02:02:26,910 --> 02:02:29,310
and I can respond you don't have
to be both be on at the same

2088
02:02:29,310 --> 02:02:33,600
time. It's kind of like, instant
it's like instant messaging.

2089
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:40,440
Well, only it takes hours.
Ronaldo scenario, Parts Unknown.

2090
02:02:41,190 --> 02:02:44,730
And he says you both are like a
fine wine that gets better with

2091
02:02:44,730 --> 02:02:48,870
age. Thank you for your courage.
Well, thank you. Thank you very

2092
02:02:48,870 --> 02:02:50,370
much image

2093
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:54,240
Unknown: makers inc.com All
right, there we go.

2094
02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:58,440
John C Dvorak: gone crazy. Linda
lapad kins getting all that free

2095
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:01,320
publicity she needs she's in
Lakewood, Colorado. She gives us

2096
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:06,930
another tuner bucks today. And
she says You both make you both

2097
02:03:06,930 --> 02:03:11,760
like fine want no this can NO NO
NO NO NO NO This job's Carmen is

2098
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,040
all she wants she didn't she
doesn't think we're like a fine

2099
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:17,790
wine. For a faster more
effective job search visit image

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02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:21,690
makers inc.com That's image
makers think okay. You're a go

2101
02:03:21,690 --> 02:03:25,050
to for executive resumes by the
way she's got a great website

2102
02:03:25,380 --> 02:03:28,530
and job search and work with
Linda Lou Duchess of jobs and

2103
02:03:28,530 --> 02:03:32,670
Winner winner winner writer of
resumes and making no agenda

2104
02:03:32,670 --> 02:03:33,240
great again.

2105
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:37,110
Unknown: Jobs, jobs and jobs.

2106
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:47,340
Adam Curry: And then we have Don
cool, he's cool down cool. Down

2107
02:03:47,340 --> 02:03:49,950
cool sends us 200 ollars
Associate Executive Producer

2108
02:03:49,950 --> 02:03:52,920
John Adams Sorry. It's been a
while he says darn cool vibe

2109
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:56,220
count of New Hampshire. Windham,
New Hampshire. PS Keep up the

2110
02:03:56,220 --> 02:03:58,770
good work. Well, thank you. We
shall do so.

2111
02:04:00,420 --> 02:04:03,690
John C Dvorak: And last we got
circumcision in Blaine,

2112
02:04:03,690 --> 02:04:11,610
Washington, whereas he got a
monitor here. That Wait a

2113
02:04:11,610 --> 02:04:12,750
minute. He

2114
02:04:12,750 --> 02:04:16,110
Adam Curry: starts by saying
breaking breaking the vault

2115
02:04:16,110 --> 02:04:16,530
Bistro.

2116
02:04:17,370 --> 02:04:21,330
John C Dvorak: He's got a long
noises breaking the vault bistro

2117
02:04:21,330 --> 02:04:25,500
and wine bar announces its
second to 2024 meet up Sunday,

2118
02:04:25,530 --> 02:04:30,060
August 4. That's this Sunday.
For our customary protocol. The

2119
02:04:30,060 --> 02:04:33,330
Vault vault will offer the
delightful farm to table fare

2120
02:04:33,330 --> 02:04:37,770
craft cocktails and curated wine
list. And he goes on and on.

2121
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:38,220
While he just

2122
02:04:38,220 --> 02:04:41,640
Adam Curry: says incidentally,
here's the other 50% of the Jew

2123
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:43,500
money I owed you from the last
time.

2124
02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:47,010
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, I
think he Yeah, he's falling

2125
02:04:47,010 --> 02:04:51,210
behind. Yeah, I can only get 50%
Jew money because I'm only 50%

2126
02:04:51,210 --> 02:04:56,190
Jew. Oh, okay, well, that
explains. That being said

2127
02:04:56,190 --> 02:04:59,400
sources telling me the dude's
name Benjamin in the slot

2128
02:04:59,430 --> 02:05:03,960
office. base laser office of
targeting in mock deference to

2129
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:09,210
the new dei policies enacted by
slot office brass are now

2130
02:05:09,210 --> 02:05:14,070
referring to the slot office as
the Office of the front hole. Or

2131
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:19,560
Oh f a. Firstly, I don't see the
humor in it. Well, it's because

2132
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:23,970
you only half Jewish. Jewish.
Exactly, exactly. And again if

2133
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,780
either of you or both are
anywhere near good old Blaine a

2134
02:05:28,110 --> 02:05:31,890
gateway to the USA please do not
hesitate to deposit yourself at

2135
02:05:31,890 --> 02:05:36,120
the vault bistro and he says our
money will be no good so anyway

2136
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:39,690
my amygdala thanks you it goes
on. And no agenda producers

2137
02:05:39,690 --> 02:05:42,720
listeners feeling parched.
peckish are in the hood? Where

2138
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:46,110
can I say socialism? from my
Deck? I can see socialism from

2139
02:05:46,110 --> 02:05:49,620
my Deck. Yes, you can see Canada
Allen fenced and thank you for

2140
02:05:49,620 --> 02:05:54,390
your undeniable courage. He
serves circumcision of the 10%

2141
02:05:54,420 --> 02:05:56,520
off night of the fourth quarter.

2142
02:05:56,730 --> 02:06:00,600
Adam Curry: And I'm sure we will
have a mention of that meetup,

2143
02:06:00,630 --> 02:06:03,360
which is coming up this Sunday.
Thank you to these executive and

2144
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:10,200
Associate Executive producers of
episode 1682 of the best podcast

2145
02:06:10,230 --> 02:06:13,860
in the universe. We appreciate
these these execs and associate

2146
02:06:13,860 --> 02:06:17,970
execs, of course, we appreciate
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2147
02:06:17,970 --> 02:06:20,310
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2148
02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:23,850
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2149
02:06:23,850 --> 02:06:27,600
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2150
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:31,710
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2151
02:06:31,710 --> 02:06:37,320
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again for producing episode 1682

2152
02:06:37,950 --> 02:06:38,220
Our

2153
02:06:38,220 --> 02:06:42,660
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out with people in the mouth

2154
02:06:57,990 --> 02:07:01,350
John C Dvorak: I'd like to go
ahead. I'd like to start off

2155
02:07:01,350 --> 02:07:02,790
this section with an ask Adam.

2156
02:07:03,450 --> 02:07:07,380
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, I was
unprepared for an ask Adam. Yes,

2157
02:07:07,380 --> 02:07:10,050
John C Dvorak: this is because
it's the Olympics is a big deal.

2158
02:07:10,050 --> 02:07:10,110
It

2159
02:07:10,110 --> 02:07:12,000
Adam Curry: is it is the
Olympics. Yes, it is the

2160
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:13,140
Olympics. We don't have any

2161
02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:15,630
John C Dvorak: Olympic clips or
anything because we'd get sued.

2162
02:07:15,630 --> 02:07:18,660
But we do. We have an ask Adam
based on the Olympics.

2163
02:07:20,220 --> 02:07:23,070
Adam Curry: Okay, so which one
do I play here?

2164
02:07:23,130 --> 02:07:26,010
John C Dvorak: You say ask Adam
Olympics cue.

2165
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:28,770
Unknown: Okay. Also, you've seen
the medals athletes have been

2166
02:07:28,770 --> 02:07:33,000
winning at the Olympics all
week. Well, trick question. What

2167
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:34,080
do you think they're made of?

2168
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:41,910
Adam Curry: Whoa, what do you
think they're made of? Well, I

2169
02:07:41,910 --> 02:07:47,100
know what they represent. They
they represent gold you would

2170
02:07:47,100 --> 02:07:50,580
think there was some gold in
that one? They represent silver

2171
02:07:50,580 --> 02:07:52,800
which you would hope there would
be some silver in there and

2172
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,410
bronze but I'm gonna go with
tungsten

2173
02:07:58,980 --> 02:08:02,070
John C Dvorak: that's a good
one. Call back that it goes way

2174
02:08:02,070 --> 02:08:07,080
back. Yes. So let's go okay. Now
this is the ask Adam answer and

2175
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:13,020
q2 at the end of this compound
as Goutam. At the end of this is

2176
02:08:13,020 --> 02:08:14,970
another question. Well,

2177
02:08:14,970 --> 02:08:18,120
Unknown: I want to say real
solid gold, silver and bronze.

2178
02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:20,550
But this question you're asking
is making me second guess

2179
02:08:20,550 --> 02:08:21,270
myself. Guys,

2180
02:08:21,270 --> 02:08:23,520
you should. According to
International Olympic Committee

2181
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,280
regulations, the Olympic gold
medals must be made out of at

2182
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:33,900
least 92.5% Silver, which comes
out to 523 grams and then they

2183
02:08:33,900 --> 02:08:36,840
are plated with six grams of
gold.

2184
02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:39,720
We will wait then what is the
silver metal native? Good

2185
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:46,410
question. The silver metal is
525 grams of pure silver. So I

2186
02:08:46,410 --> 02:08:48,990
bet you're wondering about the
bronze metal? Yeah, it is an

2187
02:08:48,990 --> 02:08:51,690
alloy made of copper, tin and
zinc.

2188
02:08:51,690 --> 02:08:54,690
Well, now you have me wondering
how much each metal is worth?

2189
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:56,100
Well, according to Oxford
Economics,

2190
02:08:56,130 --> 02:08:57,630
Adam Curry: but what a gyp

2191
02:08:59,460 --> 02:09:00,360
Unknown: what a jeep.

2192
02:09:01,770 --> 02:09:04,650
Adam Curry: I remember when I
was in the International School

2193
02:09:04,650 --> 02:09:11,250
of Amsterdam, and now this is
when I was nine, maybe eight or

2194
02:09:11,250 --> 02:09:15,870
nine. And they had some Olympic
medalists come in, and we were

2195
02:09:15,870 --> 02:09:19,110
all allowed to look at the gold
medal and they say you can't

2196
02:09:19,110 --> 02:09:23,070
touch it, because it's pure gold
and it could actually warp you

2197
02:09:23,070 --> 02:09:27,630
could bend it. That's what they
told me. Now, of course, that

2198
02:09:27,630 --> 02:09:31,470
was in 9974. What maybe in 74,
it was different.

2199
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:34,620
John C Dvorak: Maybe I don't see
how it would work though.

2200
02:09:34,620 --> 02:09:36,120
Because you touched it. Well,

2201
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:37,890
Adam Curry: I mean, they just
didn't want us with our grubby

2202
02:09:38,550 --> 02:09:40,860
John C Dvorak: Majan it up and
they had to clean so they didn't

2203
02:09:40,860 --> 02:09:41,910
want Alright, so

2204
02:09:41,940 --> 02:09:43,110
Adam Curry: what is the final
question? Are

2205
02:09:43,110 --> 02:09:44,940
John C Dvorak: they worth what
each one of them worth? What do

2206
02:09:44,940 --> 02:09:45,450
you think?

2207
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,300
Adam Curry: How many grams of
silver was it?

2208
02:09:48,690 --> 02:09:50,430
John C Dvorak: 500 some?

2209
02:09:51,630 --> 02:09:54,600
Adam Curry: There, they're
probably each worth about I'd

2210
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:56,400
say about $275.

2211
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,210
John C Dvorak: Play the end Oh
is

2212
02:10:00,210 --> 02:10:03,840
Unknown: worth an estimated
$1,027. The silver medal is

2213
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:10,830
about $535 and the bronze.
Sorry, it's about $4.60 Oh

2214
02:10:10,830 --> 02:10:11,760
man

2215
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:17,490
answered the question go, wow,

2216
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:21,630
Adam Curry: wow. Well, that was
news that we can use at the

2217
02:10:21,630 --> 02:10:28,560
watercooler. So, yes, it's handy
to know. Yeah, there's been a

2218
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:35,040
lot of hearings in Congress
about the attempted

2219
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:40,530
assassination of President
Trump. And it's really, it's

2220
02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:46,230
looking more and more like this
went beyond incompetence, beyond

2221
02:10:46,230 --> 02:10:51,750
incompetence. And as much as I
don't like saying it, Jesse

2222
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:56,340
waters did a pretty good
backgrounder of everything that

2223
02:10:56,340 --> 02:11:00,150
took place. So I'm going to play
a couple of his clips. This

2224
02:11:00,150 --> 02:11:02,250
first one's a little longer,
it's a buck and a half and the

2225
02:11:02,250 --> 02:11:06,420
rest are very short. But I think
it kind of brings us up to speed

2226
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:11,280
on some of the anomalies and
atrocities and outrageousness of

2227
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:12,240
what took place here.

2228
02:11:12,330 --> 02:11:15,060
Unknown: A secret service
counter sniper is predicting

2229
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:18,870
another assassination attempt
before November. In an email

2230
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:22,380
obtained by Real Clear Politics,
a secret service agent with 20

2231
02:11:22,380 --> 02:11:25,980
years experience on the counter
sniper team is announcing he's

2232
02:11:25,980 --> 02:11:29,040
going to blow the whistle until
all of his supervisors are

2233
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:32,760
fired. The counter sniper says
his mission is to prevent

2234
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:37,050
another JFK style assassination.
And the only reason that hasn't

2235
02:11:37,050 --> 02:11:40,830
happened is because they've
gotten lucky. He says secret

2236
02:11:40,830 --> 02:11:44,910
service leadership is corrupt.
And states clearly quote, we all

2237
02:11:44,910 --> 02:11:47,550
should expect another
assassination attempt to happen

2238
02:11:47,550 --> 02:11:51,090
before November. We've exposed
our inability to protect our

2239
02:11:51,090 --> 02:11:55,320
leaders due to our leadership.
After this email went public, it

2240
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:59,700
was wiped off the Secret Service
servers. There's a massive cover

2241
02:11:59,700 --> 02:12:04,440
up underway, and it spilled over
into Congress. After Cheadle

2242
02:12:04,470 --> 02:12:08,790
resigned in disgrace, her number
two got promoted and testified

2243
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:11,700
today that the Secret Service
screwed up. But the local

2244
02:12:11,700 --> 02:12:15,390
police, it was really all their
fault. 30

2245
02:12:15,390 --> 02:12:17,130
seconds. If

2246
02:12:17,130 --> 02:12:19,920
it's communicated directly to a
counter sniper team, would that

2247
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,370
be enough time to react prior to
the firing of those shots?

2248
02:12:24,510 --> 02:12:27,330
Senator, if we'd had that
information, they would have

2249
02:12:27,330 --> 02:12:31,110
been able to address it more
quickly it appears that that

2250
02:12:31,110 --> 02:12:35,640
information was stuck or siloed.
In that state and local channels

2251
02:12:35,670 --> 02:12:38,460
were explicit instructions
provided to cover the roof of

2252
02:12:38,460 --> 02:12:41,970
the AGR building and locals just
not follow it or were those

2253
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,730
explicit instruction is not
provided. It's my understanding

2254
02:12:44,730 --> 02:12:47,670
what was communicated is that
the locals had a plan and that

2255
02:12:47,670 --> 02:12:51,630
they had been there before. We
are looking at this and they

2256
02:12:51,630 --> 02:12:54,270
should have been on that roof.
And the fact that they were in

2257
02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:58,140
the building is something that
I'm still trying to understand.

2258
02:12:58,500 --> 02:13:00,900
Adam Curry: So part of the
reason that they weren't on the

2259
02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:05,130
roof as the news has been very
fragmented, the things we're

2260
02:13:05,130 --> 02:13:09,600
hearing is because it was too
hot, and therefore it Oh, you

2261
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,090
local SWAT guys don't go out
there. You don't need to do

2262
02:13:12,090 --> 02:13:14,370
that. Well, here's the local
SWAT commander,

2263
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:20,340
Unknown: the accusation that
somehow we were told that to be

2264
02:13:20,340 --> 02:13:25,530
on the roofline, for instance,
to and that it was too hot.

2265
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,670
That's ridiculous. You know, our
snipers are prepared to operate

2266
02:13:29,670 --> 02:13:33,570
in western Pennsylvania, from
anywhere from 10 degrees below

2267
02:13:33,570 --> 02:13:37,290
zero to 90 degrees, they were
prepared to be wherever they

2268
02:13:37,290 --> 02:13:40,950
were told by secret service that
day, then,

2269
02:13:41,190 --> 02:13:45,960
Adam Curry: probably the
funniest, most outrageous

2270
02:13:46,650 --> 02:13:52,950
testimony, the reason that the
Secret Service could not fly

2271
02:13:52,980 --> 02:13:57,360
their drone to check around and
see if anyone was I don't know,

2272
02:13:57,570 --> 02:14:01,410
walking around doing weird
suspicious stuff. Well, that was

2273
02:14:01,410 --> 02:14:04,560
a very, very clear and obvious
explanation. They couldn't fly

2274
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:06,450
their drone. You had

2275
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:11,040
Unknown: a drone system, but you
had bandwidth problems. The

2276
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:14,070
bandwidth apparently was
adequate for the shooters drone,

2277
02:14:14,070 --> 02:14:17,370
but not for the Secret Service.
Can you explain that?

2278
02:14:18,060 --> 02:14:21,930
I have no explanation for it. So
people fly drones all the time,

2279
02:14:21,990 --> 02:14:25,950
on the peripheries of our sites.
And we go out and we talk to

2280
02:14:25,950 --> 02:14:29,700
them and we ascertain what their
intentions are. On this day in

2281
02:14:29,700 --> 02:14:33,840
particular, because of the
connectivity challenge. As you

2282
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:38,250
noted, there was a delay and he
flew his drone at 351

2283
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:39,840
Approximately, so

2284
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:45,300
Adam Curry: they had bad
internet. This is getting

2285
02:14:45,300 --> 02:14:49,800
funnier by the minute. And then
of course, the most damning part

2286
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:54,270
is the person who was in fact
responsible. The site supervisor

2287
02:14:55,170 --> 02:14:59,280
has not been subpoenaed been
called or his name or her name

2288
02:14:59,310 --> 02:15:03,840
even know own to the public who
was the lead site agent who made

2289
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:07,920
the decision to leave the AGR
building completely outside of

2290
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:10,020
the security perimeter who was
the Senator,

2291
02:15:10,020 --> 02:15:12,270
Unknown: I cannot give you that
name. This person is

2292
02:15:12,270 --> 02:15:14,820
operational. They're still doing
investigations. They're still

2293
02:15:14,820 --> 02:15:19,500
doing protected visits and
relieved of duty. Senator, they

2294
02:15:19,500 --> 02:15:23,550
have not know. Why have they not
been relieved of duty, they are

2295
02:15:23,550 --> 02:15:26,400
still cooperating but not only
being interviewed by the FBI,

2296
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:29,790
but also by our Office of
Professional Responsibility. I

2297
02:15:29,790 --> 02:15:32,940
Adam Curry: found it interesting
that they both use the vague

2298
02:15:32,970 --> 02:15:39,000
pronoun. Is this person trans?
Or is it more than one person is

2299
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:42,510
the suit? Is there more than one
site supervisor supervisor now?

2300
02:15:42,510 --> 02:15:45,690
There'd be one site supervisor?
And they both say they I know

2301
02:15:45,690 --> 02:15:48,660
their name? Well, they can't I
mean, what is that?

2302
02:15:49,170 --> 02:15:52,890
John C Dvorak: Baby? It's
transperson. That would make

2303
02:15:52,890 --> 02:15:54,990
sense. Now,

2304
02:15:55,350 --> 02:15:59,940
Adam Curry: the there was a
thing was this was the FBI guy

2305
02:15:59,940 --> 02:16:04,200
who was saying, Well, you know,
he was he was a registered

2306
02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:09,120
Republican. And, you know, he
was he had posted all kinds of,

2307
02:16:09,540 --> 02:16:12,900
you know, anti semitic stuff. So
that makes total sense. They

2308
02:16:12,900 --> 02:16:16,080
wanted to kill Trump.
Unfortunately, they also

2309
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:20,880
subpoenaed gab and Tor boss, the
guy who was a tour was the guy

2310
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:25,020
who runs the gab site. He gave
them all the information, which

2311
02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:30,150
I think was seven or 900 pages
of posts. And these posts came

2312
02:16:30,180 --> 02:16:36,210
after this 2019 information that
showed this this shooter, this

2313
02:16:36,210 --> 02:16:41,640
Crux fellow, as, as a registered
Republican, Marsha Blackburn did

2314
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:43,230
bring it up in the hearing.

2315
02:16:43,260 --> 02:16:48,540
Unknown: And then we understand
that the gab account, is pro

2316
02:16:48,540 --> 02:16:54,120
immigration pro locked down
leftist views. Is that accurate?

2317
02:16:54,480 --> 02:16:57,510
I haven't seen it directly. But
I believe from what I've been

2318
02:16:57,510 --> 02:17:00,750
told that is accurate with the
gab account. We're also though

2319
02:17:00,750 --> 02:17:03,840
that's been publicly revealed
through the CIO and other

2320
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:06,540
things. We're still working to
certify and verify that that's

2321
02:17:06,540 --> 02:17:10,470
his account, also, but it does
have differing points of view,

2322
02:17:10,500 --> 02:17:11,430
it would appear.

2323
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:18,000
Okay, and what age? And how
fresh. Is that gap account?

2324
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:23,310
The cab account? Based on my
recollection, the comments in

2325
02:17:23,310 --> 02:17:26,730
there or the messaging is from
about 2021, I believe.

2326
02:17:27,390 --> 02:17:32,640
Okay. And the other preceded
that maybe he was age 14?

2327
02:17:32,909 --> 02:17:36,959
Yes, Senator, the the other
account that we talked about was

2328
02:17:36,959 --> 02:17:39,269
in the 2019 2020 timeframe.

2329
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:44,940
Adam Curry: So this, I mean,
it's very odd, it reeks of a

2330
02:17:44,940 --> 02:17:48,930
total cover up. And I would say,
yeah, there's a cover up

2331
02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:52,320
underway, particularly from the
mainstream media, where it not

2332
02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:56,880
for this astounding interview
that ABC aired, and has been re

2333
02:17:56,880 --> 02:18:01,680
aired and hashed up and chopped
up and put on everywhere, where

2334
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:06,150
they talk to the local, the
local guys who the Secret

2335
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:10,440
Service is blaming for the mess
up. And and well, here's a piece

2336
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:10,980
of it. I

2337
02:18:10,980 --> 02:18:12,840
Unknown: remember standing in
the parking lot and talking to

2338
02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:17,070
one of the guys. And so we just
became part of history. And not

2339
02:18:17,070 --> 02:18:17,550
a good way,

2340
02:18:17,849 --> 02:18:18,569
walking around

2341
02:18:18,570 --> 02:18:21,540
and just seemed out of place.
Greg nickels snapped these

2342
02:18:21,540 --> 02:18:23,340
photos of the shooter. If we had
a

2343
02:18:23,879 --> 02:18:27,839
Text group between the local
snipers that were on scene, I'd

2344
02:18:27,839 --> 02:18:31,469
sent those pictures out to that
group and advise them of what I

2345
02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:35,699
noticed. And what I'd seen. What
do you think is I assume that

2346
02:18:35,729 --> 02:18:39,209
there would be somebody coming
out to, you know, speak with

2347
02:18:39,419 --> 02:18:41,909
this individual or find out
what's going on?

2348
02:18:42,150 --> 02:18:47,310
So how do you know if Greg's
concerns about Crux are being

2349
02:18:47,310 --> 02:18:48,720
relayed properly? We

2350
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:52,650
don't it's we have to assume
that when he put that

2351
02:18:52,650 --> 02:18:56,160
information out to command, that
command took that information

2352
02:18:56,250 --> 02:18:57,360
and did something with it.

2353
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:00,810
John C Dvorak: And now somehow,
the Secret Service guys that

2354
02:19:00,810 --> 02:19:04,350
were protecting Trump claimed
they never even got word of

2355
02:19:04,350 --> 02:19:07,050
this, like they've never heard
about it at all.

2356
02:19:07,679 --> 02:19:10,409
Unknown: We were supposed to get
a face to face briefing with the

2357
02:19:10,409 --> 02:19:13,949
Secret Service snipers whenever
they arrived, and that never

2358
02:19:13,949 --> 02:19:18,809
happened. So I think that that
was probably a pivotal point

2359
02:19:18,839 --> 02:19:22,049
where I started thinking things
were wrong, because that never

2360
02:19:22,049 --> 02:19:23,909
happened. And we had no
communication with the Secret

2361
02:19:23,909 --> 02:19:24,359
Service.

2362
02:19:25,139 --> 02:19:28,439
You had no communication with
the Secret Service at all on

2363
02:19:28,439 --> 02:19:29,909
that Saturday? No,

2364
02:19:29,910 --> 02:19:31,050
not until after the shooting,

2365
02:19:31,049 --> 02:19:33,539
I believe. Yeah. Then by then,
it was too late.

2366
02:19:35,219 --> 02:19:38,459
Adam Curry: The only thing I can
come up with is we were supposed

2367
02:19:38,459 --> 02:19:43,259
to have a dead Trump and a lot
of conspiracy theories. Just put

2368
02:19:43,259 --> 02:19:47,009
as much nonsense get everything
make it looks like everyone

2369
02:19:47,009 --> 02:19:50,819
pointing at each other. This was
this is not playing out the way

2370
02:19:50,819 --> 02:19:56,309
it was intended. This is this is
baffling to me. Do you have any

2371
02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:56,849
thoughts?

2372
02:19:57,900 --> 02:20:00,900
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a
woman thicker Names last name is

2373
02:20:00,900 --> 02:20:05,430
crab trim not sure investigative
journalist who has been

2374
02:20:05,430 --> 02:20:09,150
following this and she was on
one of the radio shows. And she

2375
02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:14,640
says this guy this guy took over
from Cheadle is the really the

2376
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:17,400
go to guy, he's the guy
responsible. He should have been

2377
02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:19,380
fired today along with her
quitting. We're

2378
02:20:19,380 --> 02:20:20,940
Adam Curry: just gonna call him
No, not today I'm

2379
02:20:20,940 --> 02:20:22,980
John C Dvorak: not talking about
the vague I'm talking about the

2380
02:20:22,980 --> 02:20:27,090
guy that was testifying Oh, with
the funny haircut. Oh, that guy.

2381
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:31,800
That guy. That guy. He's the
second in command he took over.

2382
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:36,540
He's the temporary chief now of
the Secret Service guys. And she

2383
02:20:36,540 --> 02:20:40,650
says he's the real responsible
guy. He's the one he's the go to

2384
02:20:40,650 --> 02:20:44,250
guys. Cheetah was just a
figurehead, the new appointee

2385
02:20:44,250 --> 02:20:46,590
and he's the guy who's really
running things. And he's the guy

2386
02:20:46,590 --> 02:20:47,340
should go.

2387
02:20:49,350 --> 02:20:51,360
Adam Curry: I mean, you see, I'm
sure you've seen the video where

2388
02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:54,780
you see the kid actually walking
while Trump is talking. You see

2389
02:20:54,780 --> 02:20:58,890
him getting into position just
before he shot? Yeah. I mean,

2390
02:20:58,890 --> 02:21:01,470
this. It's crazy. I

2391
02:21:01,470 --> 02:21:03,300
John C Dvorak: think I think
there may be something to the

2392
02:21:03,300 --> 02:21:05,010
idea that Trump should be dead.

2393
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:07,380
Adam Curry: He should be. I
think the the real. Of course,

2394
02:21:07,410 --> 02:21:12,360
Joe was also supposed to be
dead. Stay tuned. And Trump

2395
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:16,080
should not be alive that and
they had all this setup to make

2396
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:19,080
it just as confusing as
possible, you know, the initial

2397
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:22,530
like, wow, you know, he searched
for JFK, you know, make it like

2398
02:21:22,530 --> 02:21:26,580
a JFK assassination. Have people
trying to figure this out for

2399
02:21:26,580 --> 02:21:30,510
the next 50 years? And then, you
know, oh, we can't release the

2400
02:21:30,510 --> 02:21:32,520
files, you know, to also

2401
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:35,370
John C Dvorak: throw in this
idea that Iran would he put him

2402
02:21:35,370 --> 02:21:39,870
on a hit list? Yes. Yes.
Something they don't necessarily

2403
02:21:39,930 --> 02:21:43,110
release. There's no way to
knowing this is bullcrap that

2404
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:46,470
part, and then having the phony
baloney bank accounts that this

2405
02:21:46,470 --> 02:21:50,550
kid supposedly had and all over
the world somehow he's just a

2406
02:21:50,550 --> 02:21:51,870
kid. Give me a break.

2407
02:21:52,980 --> 02:21:57,420
Adam Curry: We may never know.
We may never know. Trump is

2408
02:21:57,420 --> 02:22:00,030
insinuating inside job. He has
been, you know?

2409
02:22:00,540 --> 02:22:03,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he has been
insinuating he's been true

2410
02:22:03,120 --> 02:22:03,360
thing.

2411
02:22:03,540 --> 02:22:05,820
Adam Curry: I have a couple of
boots on the ground about

2412
02:22:05,820 --> 02:22:09,870
CrowdStrike. You know, I've been
I have not let this Microsoft as

2413
02:22:09,870 --> 02:22:14,070
your outage slipped by.
Remember, we still don't really

2414
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:17,070
know. I mean, yeah, we know what
happened with CrowdStrike. But

2415
02:22:17,100 --> 02:22:22,200
the fact that it happened is so
outrageous. For a company that

2416
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:26,130
does these things. For a living,
it just makes no sense. But it

2417
02:22:26,130 --> 02:22:30,510
came right after it looked like
all of the Microsoft Azure,

2418
02:22:30,510 --> 02:22:34,560
their whole cloud, Microsoft
365, all kinds of things were

2419
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:36,060
happening. And we had and

2420
02:22:36,060 --> 02:22:38,940
John C Dvorak: don't forget that
this also coincides with a shot

2421
02:22:38,940 --> 02:22:40,800
at Trump. Yes. So right

2422
02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:43,110
Adam Curry: after it Well, a
couple days later, after his

2423
02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:47,190
speech at the at the RNC, which
I initially thought, well, you

2424
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:52,440
know, it seems like that
happened right on time to change

2425
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:56,460
the news cycle, which it did.
But I have a couple of boots on

2426
02:22:56,460 --> 02:23:02,250
the ground. First one, and these
are all dudes dude named Ben. In

2427
02:23:02,250 --> 02:23:05,460
this case, I'm a vice president
of delivery. And a large

2428
02:23:05,460 --> 02:23:09,450
Microsoft Partner think along
the lines of avant de RSM. We're

2429
02:23:09,450 --> 02:23:14,160
PWC. Price Waterhouse Cooper,
the week of the CrowdStrike

2430
02:23:14,190 --> 02:23:17,490
issue on that Thursday, the day
before the large CrowdStrike

2431
02:23:17,490 --> 02:23:21,600
issue outage, we had observed an
extremely large outage for all

2432
02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:27,480
of our clients in the central US
Azure region, dynamics 365 ce

2433
02:23:27,480 --> 02:23:31,440
fNo, Outlook team SharePoint,
accessible, etc. Were all

2434
02:23:31,470 --> 02:23:34,980
unaccessible. We contacted
Microsoft Support and Receive

2435
02:23:34,980 --> 02:23:38,130
little news or information as to
the root cause, which is weird

2436
02:23:38,130 --> 02:23:41,910
for a large partner. Even a week
later, the information they've

2437
02:23:41,910 --> 02:23:45,060
shared with us is a nothing
burger. Friday morning is when

2438
02:23:45,060 --> 02:23:48,300
we reserve the CrowdStrike
outage. The News reported that

2439
02:23:48,330 --> 02:23:51,570
CrowdStrike took down Azure but
on our end, it seems to be the

2440
02:23:51,570 --> 02:23:55,320
reverse. He says something
happened at Microsoft and they

2441
02:23:55,320 --> 02:23:58,650
appear to have requested
assistance from CrowdStrike. Not

2442
02:23:58,650 --> 02:24:01,350
sure what else transpired or the
nitty gritty but figured out

2443
02:24:01,350 --> 02:24:07,050
pass this along, given episode
1680s commentary. Then now, as

2444
02:24:07,050 --> 02:24:11,550
your and I've received several
emails about this, they also run

2445
02:24:11,580 --> 02:24:15,240
all of the military systems as
your Microsoft Azure is a big

2446
02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:18,270
cloud provider for the
government, in particular for

2447
02:24:18,270 --> 02:24:22,620
the military. I am currently
seeing many articles about the

2448
02:24:22,620 --> 02:24:26,250
new Microsoft 360 and Azure
outages. This is from one of our

2449
02:24:26,250 --> 02:24:30,270
producers in the army. I'm not
done listening to Sunday show

2450
02:24:30,270 --> 02:24:32,010
but I'm not sure if we talked
about this any further. In my

2451
02:24:32,010 --> 02:24:34,890
last email, I forgot to mention
my skepticism of the timing of

2452
02:24:34,890 --> 02:24:37,920
the cloud strike issues. Not
sure about other branches of the

2453
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:41,190
army. But the army has very
recently started officially

2454
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:45,000
using Microsoft 360 slash Azure.
Then all of a sudden they're

2455
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:49,140
having a lot of problems and now
a network infrastructure issue,

2456
02:24:49,350 --> 02:24:51,810
just running if you and John
believed that that looks like

2457
02:24:51,810 --> 02:24:54,510
something that people are in
fact trying to breach military

2458
02:24:54,540 --> 02:24:57,780
Microsoft accounts, the timing
is just too close to be some

2459
02:24:57,780 --> 02:25:01,380
sort of coincidence and there's
Only one article that talks

2460
02:25:01,380 --> 02:25:07,800
about this and then the final
one ITM I had a quick boots on

2461
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:10,380
the ground report about the
cyber incident, I work for a

2462
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:12,990
mechanical repair and overhaul
company in the aviation

2463
02:25:12,990 --> 02:25:17,730
industry, we have to take out
the name of that. We have an

2464
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:20,550
even mix of commercial and
military work earlier this week,

2465
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:24,480
we were told not to turn on any
of our computers. The internet

2466
02:25:24,480 --> 02:25:28,290
was shut off at every site from
Texas to Indonesia, we had been

2467
02:25:28,290 --> 02:25:31,230
hacked by someone or a group of
someone's for something.

2468
02:25:31,260 --> 02:25:34,800
Obviously, since we do a lot of
military work, the fears we were

2469
02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:38,280
targeted for information on the
different aircraft, we servers,

2470
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,310
but it could just also be a
ransomware attack on a machine

2471
02:25:41,310 --> 02:25:44,580
is not it so only have limited
information, all this. The only

2472
02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:48,090
effect this has had on me so far
is I can't access master cam

2473
02:25:48,090 --> 02:25:51,780
without the internet to verify
the license. We use Microsoft

2474
02:25:51,780 --> 02:25:54,720
Azure, I talked with my tea guy,
he said it's not a huge leap to

2475
02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:56,970
think it's connected to what
happened with them. But

2476
02:25:56,970 --> 02:26:00,270
everything they've been seeing
points this being a long thought

2477
02:26:00,270 --> 02:26:03,570
out attack separate from that
event. Nobody knows what they

2478
02:26:03,570 --> 02:26:06,540
were after. Or if they got it
not surprised that this has

2479
02:26:06,540 --> 02:26:09,210
happened. There have been a lot
of complaints from our IT guys

2480
02:26:09,210 --> 02:26:12,060
about poor network security. A
handful of sites are in the

2481
02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:14,520
middle of transitioning to a new
company after they recently were

2482
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:18,270
sold. And the world the word is
triumph dropped their IT support

2483
02:26:18,270 --> 02:26:21,150
for those sites prematurely
before the new company that

2484
02:26:21,150 --> 02:26:27,780
purchased them could take over.
This smells bad. And it it's

2485
02:26:27,810 --> 02:26:34,980
also very possible that some
hack occurred on the Azure cloud

2486
02:26:34,980 --> 02:26:39,750
network. And CrowdStrike was
called in to take everything

2487
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:41,790
down, just bring all the
computers down. We need

2488
02:26:41,820 --> 02:26:47,250
everything to shut down right
now, which it did. And it's a

2489
02:26:47,250 --> 02:26:49,710
good way to do it. It's like the
best kill switch you can

2490
02:26:49,710 --> 02:26:53,970
imagine. One that you can
relatively easily turn back on,

2491
02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:58,560
and guarantee that everybody
using Microsoft in a network

2492
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:02,100
environment would have their
machines cut off. We may never

2493
02:27:02,100 --> 02:27:05,610
know. But I like our boots on
the ground reporting. And then

2494
02:27:05,610 --> 02:27:10,410
finally for you from our
constitutional lawyer, Rob about

2495
02:27:10,410 --> 02:27:14,220
the EULA. And the CrowdStrike
and CrowdStrike. There is a

2496
02:27:14,220 --> 02:27:19,440
class action lawsuit. And it's
boys Schiller. These are not

2497
02:27:19,470 --> 02:27:25,350
just some fly by night dudes.
And I said how this is but how

2498
02:27:25,350 --> 02:27:29,130
can they get past the EULA? How
can they sue CrowdStrike for

2499
02:27:29,130 --> 02:27:34,500
what happened? And he gave me a
two point answer, fraud vitiates

2500
02:27:35,310 --> 02:27:39,150
whatever that means, everything
it touches, including EULAs. So

2501
02:27:39,150 --> 02:27:44,520
if boy Schiller can make a
colorable claim that CrowdStrike

2502
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:48,630
made false representation in
selling its product, the EULA

2503
02:27:48,630 --> 02:27:52,320
might fall by the wayside. What
kinds of representations Well,

2504
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:55,440
it could be many things such as
false statements about their pre

2505
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:57,990
release testing their safety
measures or the recovery

2506
02:27:57,990 --> 02:28:01,560
process, their security, etc.
Boy Schiller is scrubbing these

2507
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:04,860
issues out as we speak. If
there's a crack in the EULA,

2508
02:28:04,860 --> 02:28:08,790
damn, boy Shiller will find it
and use it to maximum effect.

2509
02:28:08,970 --> 02:28:11,400
They wouldn't even have to take
it to trial settlement

2510
02:28:11,400 --> 02:28:16,680
settlement leverage is all they
need. So that's for you.

2511
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:19,470
Unknown: Nice, yeah.

2512
02:28:19,650 --> 02:28:22,500
Adam Curry: I love our
producers. This is why we're the

2513
02:28:22,500 --> 02:28:24,120
best podcast in the universe.

2514
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:25,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, pretty
much.

2515
02:28:28,140 --> 02:28:29,130
Adam Curry: And of course, oh,
man.

2516
02:28:29,130 --> 02:28:31,710
John C Dvorak: Oh, you know, she
makes $30 million. Right

2517
02:28:31,710 --> 02:28:35,460
Adam Curry: on cue. Right on
cue. It's time to start the

2518
02:28:35,460 --> 02:28:38,760
pivot. We've got to get away
from this AI. We've got to keep

2519
02:28:38,760 --> 02:28:41,850
the Wall Street hype going. 60
minutes comes in. Thank you.

2520
02:28:41,850 --> 02:28:46,920
Scott Pelley whenever and when a
hype is created. You know this

2521
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:51,060
douchebag Michio Kaku is going
to be right in the middle of it.

2522
02:28:51,090 --> 02:28:54,360
Unknown: Artificial Intelligence
is the magic of the moment. But

2523
02:28:54,390 --> 02:28:58,260
this is a story about what's
next, something

2524
02:28:58,620 --> 02:29:03,630
incomprehensible. This past
December, IBM announced in

2525
02:29:03,630 --> 02:29:08,550
advance in an entirely new kind
of computing, one that may solve

2526
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:12,960
problems in minutes. That would
take today's supercomputers, the

2527
02:29:12,960 --> 02:29:19,080
billions. That's the difference
in quantum computing technology

2528
02:29:19,080 --> 02:29:23,670
being developed at IBM, Google
and others. It's named for

2529
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:27,780
quantum physics, which describes
the forces of the subatomic

2530
02:29:27,780 --> 02:29:33,120
realm. And as we told you last
winter, the science is deep, and

2531
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:37,620
we can't scratch the surface.
But we hope to explain just

2532
02:29:37,620 --> 02:29:41,490
enough so that you won't be
blindsided by a breakthrough

2533
02:29:41,490 --> 02:29:44,610
that could transform
civilization.

2534
02:29:44,820 --> 02:29:49,290
Adam Curry: I like the term the
magic of the moment. That's

2535
02:29:49,290 --> 02:29:52,650
right. You gotta believe in
magic to believe it's coming.

2536
02:29:53,010 --> 02:29:56,970
Yes. Bring in the crazy guy with
the crazy hair.

2537
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:02,190
Unknown: The quantum computer
pushes the limits of knowledge.

2538
02:30:02,220 --> 02:30:06,810
Yeah, new science, new
engineering, new memes, all

2539
02:30:06,810 --> 02:30:11,970
leading to this processor that
computes with the atomic forces

2540
02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:14,730
that created the universe. Oh,
no.

2541
02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:18,810
Adam Curry: It's God, like, God
like to

2542
02:30:18,810 --> 02:30:23,610
Unknown: understand the change,
go back to 1947. And the

2543
02:30:23,610 --> 02:30:28,140
invention of a switch called a
transistor, the transistor, a

2544
02:30:28,140 --> 02:30:31,560
new name, computers have
processed information on

2545
02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:36,810
transistors ever since getting
faster, as more transistors were

2546
02:30:36,810 --> 02:30:41,700
squeezed onto a chip, billions
of them today, aliens, but it

2547
02:30:41,700 --> 02:30:46,410
takes that many because each
transistor holds information and

2548
02:30:46,410 --> 02:30:51,750
only two states it's either on
or it's off, like a coin, heads

2549
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:53,490
or tails, not holding

2550
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:54,780
John C Dvorak: information.

2551
02:30:55,560 --> 02:30:57,510
Adam Curry: How well I'm gonna
I'm gonna let you respond after

2552
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:59,640
this 19 seconds is up sales,

2553
02:31:00,330 --> 02:31:03,870
Unknown: quantum abandons
transistors, and encodes

2554
02:31:03,870 --> 02:31:07,860
information on electrons that
behave in a way so that they are

2555
02:31:07,860 --> 02:31:12,780
heads and tails and everything
in between. You've gone from

2556
02:31:12,780 --> 02:31:17,190
handling one bit of information
at a time on a transistor to

2557
02:31:17,220 --> 02:31:19,470
exponentially more data.

2558
02:31:19,860 --> 02:31:23,130
Adam Curry: All right, John C.
Dvorak, technology experts tell

2559
02:31:23,130 --> 02:31:26,340
me about quantum computing. Is
it real? Is it coming? Is it

2560
02:31:26,340 --> 02:31:29,070
here? Is it the next big thing?
Do we need to invest in it

2561
02:31:29,070 --> 02:31:29,550
quick?

2562
02:31:31,740 --> 02:31:33,150
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
saying it's not a good

2563
02:31:33,150 --> 02:31:36,030
investment, if it if everyone
thinks it's a good investment,

2564
02:31:36,030 --> 02:31:38,550
because that's how stocks go up
and down. It's got nothing to do

2565
02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:43,230
with anything. There's no
evidence that these things work.

2566
02:31:44,430 --> 02:31:48,120
There's no evidence that this
technology is even doable. And

2567
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:50,880
everything that's been going on
so far, is let's go with the

2568
02:31:50,910 --> 02:31:55,260
quantum computing thing. Google
made an announcement it must

2569
02:31:55,260 --> 02:31:58,890
have been 10 years ago, that
they had a quantum computer that

2570
02:31:58,890 --> 02:32:01,350
solve some problem they wouldn't
have been able to solve in

2571
02:32:01,350 --> 02:32:06,660
100,000 years. And then what
what happened after what,

2572
02:32:06,660 --> 02:32:09,690
where's this? What we're, how
come we haven't gone anywhere

2573
02:32:09,690 --> 02:32:10,770
since then? Because

2574
02:32:10,770 --> 02:32:13,320
Adam Curry: they don't have
enough qubits. They need more

2575
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:16,050
qubits. We need investment for
more qubits.

2576
02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:19,920
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's like
what happened? You remember this

2577
02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:23,160
when Google said they saw some
problem using their quantum

2578
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:27,090
computer? It was like something
that would have taken 100,000

2579
02:32:27,090 --> 02:32:29,760
years, but they did it like in
10 minutes, or whatever hour or

2580
02:32:29,760 --> 02:32:33,390
whatever it was. And then we
haven't heard anything. We

2581
02:32:33,390 --> 02:32:38,070
haven't heard Jack since then.
What What was that all about?

2582
02:32:38,700 --> 02:32:41,460
was, it was bullcrap is what it
was, there was no, there was

2583
02:32:41,460 --> 02:32:45,450
nothing solved. I see. I mean,
this whole quantum computer

2584
02:32:45,450 --> 02:32:48,870
thing is a pie in the sky.
That's never been shown to work.

2585
02:32:48,960 --> 02:32:53,190
And if it was shown if it ever
could work using quantum

2586
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:57,360
physics, which JB actually did
have two things in it. Two

2587
02:32:57,360 --> 02:32:59,730
different things in two
different spots. At the same

2588
02:32:59,730 --> 02:33:04,860
time, it's really something no
one can fathom. Nobody could

2589
02:33:04,860 --> 02:33:08,460
program these things. This is
ridiculous. I do is a good

2590
02:33:08,580 --> 02:33:09,360
diversion.

2591
02:33:09,420 --> 02:33:14,280
Adam Curry: I have a 2016 clip
of Justin Trudeau about science.

2592
02:33:14,580 --> 02:33:17,190
Unknown: So you don't have to be
a geek like me to appreciate how

2593
02:33:17,190 --> 02:33:20,100
important this work is. Although
I have to tell you when we get

2594
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:23,100
to the media questions later,
I'm really hoping people ask me

2595
02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:25,050
how quantum computing works.
Because

2596
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:29,670
Adam Curry: remember, he opened
the quantum computer center in

2597
02:33:29,670 --> 02:33:33,210
Canada. How'd that work out?
Yeah, man, this is from

2598
02:33:34,500 --> 02:33:35,640
John C Dvorak: almost 10 years
ago.

2599
02:33:35,670 --> 02:33:39,750
Adam Curry: This is 2019 Glenn
Beck on quantum computing. And

2600
02:33:39,750 --> 02:33:43,170
right now that computer is
called this is with Jeff Brown,

2601
02:33:43,260 --> 02:33:44,040
it was actually

2602
02:33:45,630 --> 02:33:49,560
Unknown: partially built by IBM.
And it's one of the one of the

2603
02:33:49,590 --> 02:33:52,410
Department of Energy's National
Laboratories and it's capable of

2604
02:33:52,410 --> 02:33:57,330
something called 200 petaflops
per second, which is just

2605
02:33:57,330 --> 02:33:59,400
imagine football field sized.

2606
02:33:59,790 --> 02:34:02,730
Adam Curry: Okay, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, whatever. I'm

2607
02:34:02,730 --> 02:34:05,370
just telling you that my
prediction that they're going to

2608
02:34:05,580 --> 02:34:09,360
they're going to switch Wall
Street will switch from AI to

2609
02:34:09,360 --> 02:34:12,060
quantum computing because it's
falling apart

2610
02:34:13,290 --> 02:34:15,720
John C Dvorak: it's falling
apart he's got he's got still

2611
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:16,650
got more legs.

2612
02:34:16,830 --> 02:34:18,450
Adam Curry: How much more legs

2613
02:34:21,090 --> 02:34:25,410
John C Dvorak: Well, got more
legs. I won't bore you with now

2614
02:34:25,410 --> 02:34:28,740
know how much more legs all I
know is has got more legs. Well

2615
02:34:28,740 --> 02:34:29,070
you want

2616
02:34:29,070 --> 02:34:31,530
Adam Curry: to hear the last
clip of Michio Kaku, Kaku.

2617
02:34:32,970 --> 02:34:34,650
Unknown: Yeah, might as well
enjoy him as

2618
02:34:34,650 --> 02:34:37,830
well. You can see that there's
fantastic amount of information

2619
02:34:37,830 --> 02:34:42,660
stored when you can look at all
possible angles, not just up or

2620
02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:44,250
down. physicist

2621
02:34:44,250 --> 02:34:48,510
Michio Kaku of the City
University of New York already

2622
02:34:48,510 --> 02:34:53,430
calls today's computers
classical. He uses a maze to

2623
02:34:53,430 --> 02:34:56,550
explain quantum difference.
Let's

2624
02:34:56,550 --> 02:34:59,970
look at a classical computer
calculating how a mouse now

2625
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,820
navigate a maze. It is painful.
One by one, it has to map every

2626
02:35:05,820 --> 02:35:09,480
single left turn right turn left
turn right turn before it finds

2627
02:35:09,480 --> 02:35:14,040
that goal. Now a quantum
computer scans all possible

2628
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:18,420
routes simultaneously. This is
amazing. How many turns are

2629
02:35:18,420 --> 02:35:21,990
there hundreds of possible
turns, right? Quantum computers

2630
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:24,210
do it all at once.

2631
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:29,340
Kakuzu book titled quantum
supremacy explains the stakes.

2632
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:34,890
We're looking at a race race
between China between IBM here

2633
02:35:34,890 --> 02:35:39,480
it is Google, Microsoft,
Honeywell, all the big boys are

2634
02:35:39,480 --> 02:35:44,520
in any way to create a workable,
operationally efficient quantum

2635
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:49,290
computer. Because the nation or
company that does this will rule

2636
02:35:49,320 --> 02:35:51,210
the world economy. This

2637
02:35:51,210 --> 02:35:55,080
Adam Curry: is what they said
about AI. And now it's about

2638
02:35:55,080 --> 02:35:57,660
quantum computing. And he's got
a book out so you know, it's

2639
02:35:57,660 --> 02:36:06,210
real. Apple has decided not to
use NVIDIA GPUs for its AI

2640
02:36:06,210 --> 02:36:11,790
models instead is using the
Google TP use. Which is

2641
02:36:11,790 --> 02:36:18,690
interesting. metas AI assistant,
which was widely widely

2642
02:36:18,690 --> 02:36:21,660
distributed, said Oh, no, no,
the Trump's assassination

2643
02:36:21,660 --> 02:36:25,410
attempt was fictional. Like
rocket that's right up there

2644
02:36:25,410 --> 02:36:32,940
with glue on your pizza. So I'll
say it, I'll let me be the one.

2645
02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:39,540
There's no evidence quantum
computing will ever work. Let me

2646
02:36:39,540 --> 02:36:40,410
be the one to say it.

2647
02:36:42,660 --> 02:36:45,990
John C Dvorak: And I can argue
it, you know, because I use

2648
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:48,660
there's no evidence I use the
no, there's no evidence that

2649
02:36:48,660 --> 02:36:54,360
that, that that to hold that the
model even even even works at

2650
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:59,400
all. I mean, it's it's this let
alone programmable. in enough

2651
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:02,160
trouble. There was an era with
called parallel computing. And

2652
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:02,940
they came all these

2653
02:37:03,300 --> 02:37:06,000
Adam Curry: decisions. Yes, I
remember parallel computing.

2654
02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:07,260
Yeah, they couldn't

2655
02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:10,170
John C Dvorak: program those
things that they couldn't do it.

2656
02:37:10,170 --> 02:37:13,500
It's just not programmable.
There's only so much you can you

2657
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:16,500
have to program these things.
They don't do it on their own.

2658
02:37:16,590 --> 02:37:19,290
They can't do it. They don't
self program, even though

2659
02:37:19,290 --> 02:37:23,550
there's a belief that AI creates
programs. And you know, it can

2660
02:37:23,550 --> 02:37:27,090
do some code, but it doesn't.
It's nothing creative. Somebody

2661
02:37:27,090 --> 02:37:30,990
Adam Curry: has to die before
they give up this ai ai stuff.

2662
02:37:30,990 --> 02:37:36,270
Someone's got to die. It's got
to kill somebody. I mean, it's

2663
02:37:36,270 --> 02:37:40,740
all just such bunk. And the
energy. I mean, it's crazy how

2664
02:37:40,740 --> 02:37:43,830
the energy requirements are just
not being Oh, well, you need

2665
02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:47,190
more power. Doesn't matter. You
know, it's climate change. We

2666
02:37:47,550 --> 02:37:50,130
don't care. We don't care about
climate change when it comes to

2667
02:37:50,130 --> 02:37:57,840
that. No, no, not at all.
Speaking of climate change, we

2668
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:02,400
got that horrible Park fire up
in California. Yeah, good one.

2669
02:38:03,510 --> 02:38:07,020
Unknown: Tonight, the nation's
largest wildfire, bracing and

2670
02:38:07,020 --> 02:38:11,820
boundless. Firefighters spread
thin over the park fire a threat

2671
02:38:11,820 --> 02:38:15,660
zone now sprawling across four
counties in less than a week

2672
02:38:15,690 --> 02:38:19,650
growing into California's sixth
largest wildfire ever. According

2673
02:38:19,650 --> 02:38:22,890
to CAL FIRE. The biggest in
state history are all from the

2674
02:38:22,890 --> 02:38:27,210
last six years, an era of
climate driven fire seasons that

2675
02:38:27,210 --> 02:38:29,880
scientists say start sooner and
last

2676
02:38:29,880 --> 02:38:34,140
long. Seems to be just a
continuous cycle of these and

2677
02:38:35,400 --> 02:38:38,100
it wears on our community to NBC

2678
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:41,310
Adam Curry: News, just taking a
little opportunity there to turn

2679
02:38:41,310 --> 02:38:46,050
and clear case of arson into
arson. Thank

2680
02:38:46,050 --> 02:38:47,310
John C Dvorak: you for that.
Yeah.

2681
02:38:47,340 --> 02:38:50,370
Adam Curry: Now the guy that
blew up his car and drove it

2682
02:38:50,370 --> 02:38:56,310
into a ditch and started the
fire. But now as climate change

2683
02:38:56,340 --> 02:39:01,830
what these people are horrible.
Not as bad though as Hotep.

2684
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:06,330
John C Dvorak: Tell your buddy,
Dr. Hodes, back in the news. Dr.

2685
02:39:06,330 --> 02:39:06,840
Hotep

2686
02:39:06,840 --> 02:39:10,740
Adam Curry: Hotez is back. Now
along with that you need to know

2687
02:39:10,740 --> 02:39:20,550
let me just grab the latest
here. That was it. There's all

2688
02:39:20,550 --> 02:39:27,210
kinds of approvals now for bird
flu vaccines, dang gay vaccines,

2689
02:39:27,210 --> 02:39:31,680
whatever it is, we're gonna have
a vaccine for you. Whatever we

2690
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:34,680
can get some traction with.
We'll have a vaccine. It's all

2691
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:41,130
mRNA based. And so they catch up
with Hotep Hotez. And he says,

2692
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:45,780
it's really not going to matter.
Because there's too many people

2693
02:39:45,780 --> 02:39:49,590
who are anti vaccine and anti
science. We're gonna have to

2694
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:52,170
call in the big guns literally,
you

2695
02:39:52,170 --> 02:39:55,620
Unknown: know, the health sector
doesn't know what to do. Because

2696
02:39:55,620 --> 02:40:00,210
this is not first and foremost a
political problem. And when I've

2697
02:40:00,210 --> 02:40:06,570
said to the Biden administration
is the health sector can't solve

2698
02:40:06,570 --> 02:40:10,620
this on its own, we're going to
have to bring in Homeland

2699
02:40:10,620 --> 02:40:14,280
Security, Commerce Department,
Justice Department to help us

2700
02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:18,000
understand how to do this. And
they've said the same with I met

2701
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:24,000
with Dr. Tedros. Last month and
Geneva who the director general

2702
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:27,300
just say, I don't know that the
World Health Organization can

2703
02:40:27,300 --> 02:40:30,240
solve this on our own. We need
the other United Nations

2704
02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:34,680
agencies. NATO, this is a
security problem, because it's

2705
02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:38,610
no longer a theoretical
construct are some arcane

2706
02:40:38,610 --> 02:40:43,950
academic exercise. 200,000
Americans died because of anti

2707
02:40:43,950 --> 02:40:48,120
vaccine aggression, anti science
aggression. And so this is now a

2708
02:40:48,120 --> 02:40:52,710
lethal force, that and now I
feel as a pediatric vaccine

2709
02:40:52,710 --> 02:40:57,690
scientist, it's just as just as
though it's important, just as

2710
02:40:57,690 --> 02:41:01,380
important for me to make new
vaccines to save lives. The

2711
02:41:01,380 --> 02:41:05,130
other side of saving lives is
countering this anti vaccine

2712
02:41:05,130 --> 02:41:06,180
aggression. So we

2713
02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:09,450
Adam Curry: need to make you
take the vaccines at gunpoint

2714
02:41:09,450 --> 02:41:13,350
and everybody who is anti
vaccine or anti science, anti

2715
02:41:13,350 --> 02:41:18,930
science aggression. They need to
be arrested or shot. Shot on

2716
02:41:18,930 --> 02:41:23,490
site. This guy is he's a danger.

2717
02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:27,330
John C Dvorak: He is a danger
that guy gambling he looks at

2718
02:41:27,330 --> 02:41:31,740
too if you look at him. He is a
creased creep. Yes. He's a

2719
02:41:31,740 --> 02:41:34,680
complete creep. He looks like a
creep. He's got to shake his

2720
02:41:34,680 --> 02:41:37,500
head his look a smile
everything. It's just gives you

2721
02:41:37,500 --> 02:41:40,140
the it makes you it's he's
great.

2722
02:41:40,170 --> 02:41:43,740
Adam Curry: These are all he's.
He's a creep. Hey, we can't end

2723
02:41:43,740 --> 02:41:48,480
the show without discussing the
chaos in the United Kingdom. He

2724
02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:53,160
didn't have one clip. Okay,
let's where's your clip? WaPo

2725
02:41:54,720 --> 02:41:59,100
WaPo Oh, no, it says UK All
right. Maybe not. UK stabbings?

2726
02:41:59,370 --> 02:41:59,730
Yeah.

2727
02:41:59,730 --> 02:42:00,750
John C Dvorak: UK stabbings.

2728
02:42:00,810 --> 02:42:04,020
Unknown: Turning now to unrest
in the UK protesters clashed

2729
02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:07,560
with police in northwest England
amid outrage over the killing of

2730
02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:11,520
three young girls. So far
roughly 50 law enforcement

2731
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:15,240
officers were reportedly injured
and nearly 30 of them were sent

2732
02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:18,600
to the hospital. The event
traces back to a stabbing spree

2733
02:42:18,600 --> 02:42:23,070
on a Monday where a 17 year old
suspect killed three children

2734
02:42:23,070 --> 02:42:27,090
and injured 11 others at a
Taylor Swift themed dance class.

2735
02:42:27,360 --> 02:42:30,780
The stabbing suspect is
currently in custody, but police

2736
02:42:30,780 --> 02:42:34,110
have yet to release any details
about him. Officials that the

2737
02:42:34,110 --> 02:42:37,890
outrage stems from allegations
circulating that the suspect was

2738
02:42:37,890 --> 02:42:41,670
an illegal immigrant footage
show police vehicles damaged and

2739
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:45,090
set alight as officers were
pelted with bricks and large

2740
02:42:45,090 --> 02:42:48,570
garbage containers. The violence
took place as the town was

2741
02:42:48,570 --> 02:42:52,200
holding a peaceful vigil
mourning the lives lost in the

2742
02:42:52,200 --> 02:42:54,180
tragic event. So we

2743
02:42:54,180 --> 02:42:56,460
Adam Curry: have a producer
named Sarah in the UK and she's

2744
02:42:56,460 --> 02:42:58,740
kept me very up to speed on this
one I've

2745
02:42:58,740 --> 02:43:00,570
John C Dvorak: gotten her notes
to she's good. Oh, she

2746
02:43:00,570 --> 02:43:02,370
Adam Curry: sends him to you as
well. I wonder if she sends the

2747
02:43:02,370 --> 02:43:06,480
same ones interesting. Very long
and full of links

2748
02:43:07,680 --> 02:43:10,170
John C Dvorak: No, I don't get
links from no no I maybe think

2749
02:43:10,170 --> 02:43:11,220
as someone else yeah, maybe

2750
02:43:11,250 --> 02:43:15,780
Adam Curry: Okay, so she says is
really disgusting how the media

2751
02:43:15,810 --> 02:43:20,340
and politicians are calling
people who are taking to the

2752
02:43:20,340 --> 02:43:23,730
streets and are outraged by what
has happened calling them far

2753
02:43:23,730 --> 02:43:28,020
right and racists and you know,
members of Nigel Farage his

2754
02:43:28,020 --> 02:43:31,200
party and of course this is
horrible for the new Kier

2755
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:33,870
Starmer, the new prime minister
because it's all happening on

2756
02:43:33,870 --> 02:43:36,720
his watch. But she also and
there's nothing I can play clips

2757
02:43:36,750 --> 02:43:41,040
but she sent me clip after clip
of people fighting in the

2758
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:45,150
streets with machetes Machete is
like the the weapon of choice in

2759
02:43:45,150 --> 02:43:48,690
the UK. And it's just
everywhere. They don't have

2760
02:43:48,690 --> 02:43:53,640
guns. They don't have guns, so
they got machetes. And and now

2761
02:43:54,090 --> 02:44:00,270
this this kid turns out he his
name is His name is because they

2762
02:44:00,270 --> 02:44:08,280
have his name. Axel Ruta Cabana,
he is a Rwandan of Rwandan

2763
02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:13,950
parents. He was born in the UK,
there's still no clear motive.

2764
02:44:14,700 --> 02:44:18,150
But he just went up and started
slashing kids and anybody he

2765
02:44:18,150 --> 02:44:22,590
could. And because he's only six
days away from his 18th

2766
02:44:22,590 --> 02:44:26,370
birthday, the magistrate has
wisely decided to disclose his

2767
02:44:26,370 --> 02:44:29,880
name. The media has only shown
photos of him when he was like

2768
02:44:29,880 --> 02:44:33,600
seven. Oh, look at this cute
little kid. Well, he's not

2769
02:44:33,600 --> 02:44:35,640
quite, very classic. Well,

2770
02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:38,910
Unknown: there are two different
court hearings today. Tom first

2771
02:44:38,910 --> 02:44:42,360
in the Youth Court, which is
then moved on to the Crown Court

2772
02:44:42,360 --> 02:44:47,100
for the second hearing where
Axel Ruda Barna was named under

2773
02:44:47,280 --> 02:44:50,850
reporting restrictions on his
identity were lifted because he

2774
02:44:50,850 --> 02:44:56,010
turns 18 In just six days, and
the judge here said that the

2775
02:44:56,010 --> 02:44:59,820
principle interest for lifting
that restriction was that he

2776
02:44:59,820 --> 02:45:03,750
would soon reach his majority
and therefore would have all

2777
02:45:03,750 --> 02:45:06,510
those restrictions lifted
regardless, he also pointed

2778
02:45:06,510 --> 02:45:10,680
towards much of the unrest that
we've seen taking place across

2779
02:45:10,680 --> 02:45:15,060
the country in recent days
writing last night, not only in

2780
02:45:15,060 --> 02:45:19,410
London but also in Hartlepool
and Manchester, the judge here

2781
02:45:19,410 --> 02:45:22,830
saying Mr. menorah and Mr.
Justice Buneary Casey saying

2782
02:45:22,830 --> 02:45:26,400
that at least part of that
writing had been inspired by in

2783
02:45:26,400 --> 02:45:29,640
a vacuum of the facts where
false information was being

2784
02:45:29,640 --> 02:45:32,850
spread. He said this was
nonsense, and it needed to be

2785
02:45:32,850 --> 02:45:36,540
challenged with the truth was
truth is now that the suspects

2786
02:45:36,540 --> 02:45:39,960
in this case alleged to have
committed three murders and 10

2787
02:45:39,960 --> 02:45:44,520
attempted murders and possession
of an offensive sharp blade is

2788
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:49,620
Axel ruder cabana is 17 year old
again turning 18 In just six

2789
02:45:49,620 --> 02:45:53,310
days as the suspects in this
case, sitting in the courtroom

2790
02:45:53,310 --> 02:45:58,110
in the first lower courts in the
in the Magistris. He was silent

2791
02:45:58,110 --> 02:46:01,680
but his smiles towards the press
gallery behind the dock as he

2792
02:46:01,680 --> 02:46:04,680
entered the court and then
covered his face with his gray

2793
02:46:04,680 --> 02:46:08,190
jumper tracksuit. In the Crown
Court he entered without gazing

2794
02:46:08,190 --> 02:46:12,480
towards us, again covering his
face with a tracksuit rocking

2795
02:46:12,480 --> 02:46:16,350
gently side to side as he heard
deliberations between the

2796
02:46:16,350 --> 02:46:20,010
defending and prosecuting
barristers, and the judge about

2797
02:46:20,040 --> 02:46:23,340
these reporting restrictions and
upcoming dates.

2798
02:46:23,880 --> 02:46:27,000
Adam Curry: So it's a tinderbox
right now and people have taken

2799
02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:31,170
to 10 Downing Street got a
couple of good chance which I

2800
02:46:31,170 --> 02:46:34,200
thought were worth playing this
is the first one

2801
02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:43,980
this is the Crowd Chant

2802
02:46:43,980 --> 02:46:46,110
John C Dvorak: I can't I don't
understand what they said

2803
02:46:46,140 --> 02:46:47,520
Adam Curry: no more boats

2804
02:46:48,930 --> 02:46:51,210
John C Dvorak: no more boats is
what they said yeah, because

2805
02:46:51,210 --> 02:46:54,120
Adam Curry: the again the
immigrants are coming in on

2806
02:46:54,120 --> 02:47:01,950
boats no more boats no more
boats. And then this one

2807
02:47:01,950 --> 02:47:03,120
hopefully you can understand

2808
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:17,400
we want our country back. Oh,
well. You voted for the wrong

2809
02:47:17,400 --> 02:47:22,680
party. If you want your country
back because they're all in on

2810
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:24,780
immigration. So

2811
02:47:24,810 --> 02:47:27,450
John C Dvorak: well so as I've
been to immigration peaked with

2812
02:47:27,450 --> 02:47:30,990
it with the with the
conservatives. It was going

2813
02:47:30,990 --> 02:47:33,660
through the roof with them there
last year.

2814
02:47:33,720 --> 02:47:35,940
Adam Curry: I didn't say they
should vote vote conservative. I

2815
02:47:35,940 --> 02:47:38,610
said they voted the wrong party.
How about Nigel Farage

2816
02:47:39,360 --> 02:47:40,860
John C Dvorak: I guess you're
gonna have to go that way

2817
02:47:40,860 --> 02:47:43,980
because these two parties the
Conservatives and they and the

2818
02:47:43,980 --> 02:47:47,310
labor are just they're useless
they're not dental care

2819
02:47:50,190 --> 02:47:54,030
Adam Curry: it's a one on one a
mess What a mess as the knife

2820
02:47:54,030 --> 02:47:58,050
crime is just it's amazing. But
the Brits you know and these

2821
02:47:58,050 --> 02:48:01,410
guys are walking around they got
the the Union Jack flag draped

2822
02:48:01,410 --> 02:48:04,320
around their shoulders. It's
this is a tinderbox situation.

2823
02:48:05,010 --> 02:48:07,710
This is not going to end well.
And I don't I don't think they

2824
02:48:07,710 --> 02:48:12,870
know what to do. Other than take
a hard line people want a hard

2825
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:16,170
line now they're sick of it.
They're sick of it. And it's not

2826
02:48:16,170 --> 02:48:19,800
necessarily that by the way,
what's this was always showing

2827
02:48:19,920 --> 02:48:27,390
the the 15 year old picture you
know, of the shooter. The Trump

2828
02:48:27,420 --> 02:48:32,040
assassin the this kid the all of
it, who was

2829
02:48:32,220 --> 02:48:34,560
John C Dvorak: always show some
some picture when the kid was

2830
02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:38,520
young and innocent look yes.
That's like It's like stay did

2831
02:48:38,520 --> 02:48:41,250
that with the hands up don't
shoot guy.

2832
02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:45,780
Adam Curry: Yeah, with Yeah,
who's a big fat huge Bruiser,

2833
02:48:45,780 --> 02:48:47,250
John C Dvorak: and they keep
showing a little picture when he

2834
02:48:47,250 --> 02:48:50,730
was in grammar school. Yeah,
yeah. Brown or whatever his name

2835
02:48:50,730 --> 02:48:51,390
was. Yeah.

2836
02:48:53,010 --> 02:48:55,650
Adam Curry: You gave me a link
for the show notes. It has not

2837
02:48:55,650 --> 02:48:58,770
come up I just want to remind
you electro hypersensitivity, do

2838
02:48:58,770 --> 02:49:01,200
you want to talk about that? Or
is that something that come

2839
02:49:01,200 --> 02:49:01,650
wait?

2840
02:49:03,090 --> 02:49:07,500
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to
be able to talk about it. We got

2841
02:49:07,500 --> 02:49:09,780
even sent it to you not you
mentioned it Hey, do we need to

2842
02:49:09,780 --> 02:49:13,770
do anything? I'll just say
quickly that is a good link in

2843
02:49:13,770 --> 02:49:16,980
the show notes people should
check out which has to do with

2844
02:49:17,490 --> 02:49:22,080
with RF basically too much of it
in the in the house. You're

2845
02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:25,260
getting tinnitus, you're getting
all these issues from the that's

2846
02:49:25,260 --> 02:49:30,450
why I tell people to use the
home plug home plug networking

2847
02:49:30,450 --> 02:49:34,380
system that goes through the
wires? Yes, yes, it works. It's

2848
02:49:34,380 --> 02:49:39,090
actually faster. There's no
degradation over over the length

2849
02:49:39,090 --> 02:49:45,120
of the distance between the the
source with with Wi Fi you get

2850
02:49:45,120 --> 02:49:48,360
slower and slower as you get
further away. There's not that

2851
02:49:48,450 --> 02:49:50,220
you don't have that problem with
the home wire.

2852
02:49:50,250 --> 02:49:53,340
Adam Curry: I recommend a
tinfoil hat personally, that

2853
02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:54,360
will protect

2854
02:49:54,360 --> 02:49:57,420
John C Dvorak: you probably is
not a bad idea nowadays.

2855
02:49:57,540 --> 02:49:59,100
Adam Curry: Here's the
interesting little update

2856
02:49:59,130 --> 02:50:01,410
Unknown: the Pentagon just
announced the three men Khalid

2857
02:50:01,410 --> 02:50:05,580
Sheikh Mohammed will lead in
Attash and Mustafa Al hawsawi

2858
02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:09,510
will plead guilty to some
charges as early as next week as

2859
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:12,180
part of plea agreements in the
military Commission's process.

2860
02:50:12,420 --> 02:50:15,300
They've been held at Gitmo for
years with the US accusing the

2861
02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:18,720
al Qaeda terrorists suspects of
plotting the 911 attacks that

2862
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:21,840
killed nearly 3000 people. Now,
the details of the plea

2863
02:50:21,840 --> 02:50:25,290
agreements are still unknown,
but they are expected to plead

2864
02:50:25,290 --> 02:50:28,530
guilty to lesser charges that
could spare them the death

2865
02:50:28,530 --> 02:50:32,190
penalty. Sentencing may not come
for months, but they will likely

2866
02:50:32,190 --> 02:50:35,010
appear at a hearing in
Guantanamo in the coming days.

2867
02:50:35,100 --> 02:50:37,560
Adam Curry: Not quite sure what
to make of that news wire that's

2868
02:50:37,560 --> 02:50:40,470
coming out now. All of a sudden,
I don't understand the timing of

2869
02:50:40,470 --> 02:50:40,740
it.

2870
02:50:41,520 --> 02:50:43,590
John C Dvorak: Some reason
something is happening. Yeah. So

2871
02:50:43,590 --> 02:50:47,310
I'm getting ready to shut down
go on to get Mo. Oh.

2872
02:50:48,540 --> 02:50:52,740
Adam Curry: And then of course,
Israel striking Bay route.

2873
02:50:53,310 --> 02:50:55,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we should
at least talk about this. All

2874
02:50:55,560 --> 02:50:57,840
right. You got a clip I'm sure I
also have some clips from the

2875
02:50:57,840 --> 02:50:58,890
Venezuelan election.

2876
02:50:58,890 --> 02:51:00,780
Adam Curry: I can push those
Yeah, we push that off because

2877
02:51:00,780 --> 02:51:02,340
we're running we're running it
on.

2878
02:51:02,520 --> 02:51:05,820
John C Dvorak: But Israel thing
is too, too much stuff going on.

2879
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:13,560
I have an analysis from a Hamas
expert, okay. That I think might

2880
02:51:13,560 --> 02:51:16,800
be worth listening to. This is a
let's play the background or

2881
02:51:16,800 --> 02:51:20,850
first this is the clip Israel
kills two leaders. Israel kills

2882
02:51:20,850 --> 02:51:21,630
two leaders, we

2883
02:51:21,630 --> 02:51:24,330
Unknown: turn to the Middle East
where two developments in the

2884
02:51:24,330 --> 02:51:27,810
past 24 hours have pushed
tensions to a critical point.

2885
02:51:28,170 --> 02:51:30,900
First, Israel said it killed a
leader of the terrorist group

2886
02:51:30,900 --> 02:51:35,040
Hezbollah in Beirut and then
another airstrike allegedly

2887
02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:38,610
carried out by Israel took out
political leader and head of

2888
02:51:38,610 --> 02:51:42,360
negotiations for a possible
ceasefire deal in Gaza. Given

2889
02:51:42,360 --> 02:51:46,260
honey as public facing role and
leadership. We wanted to know

2890
02:51:46,290 --> 02:51:50,430
what his death means for Hamas.
So we called Khalid al kindI.

2891
02:51:50,460 --> 02:51:53,220
He's a senior fellow at the
Middle East Institute, where he

2892
02:51:53,220 --> 02:51:56,730
directs the program on Palestine
and Israeli Palestinian Affairs.

2893
02:51:56,730 --> 02:51:58,110
Welcome back to all things
considered.

2894
02:51:58,410 --> 02:51:59,610
Thanks for having me back.

2895
02:51:59,880 --> 02:52:03,960
Well, Israel has now allegedly
killed three out of the four top

2896
02:52:03,960 --> 02:52:07,860
leaders of Hamas, but Hamas says
its leaders don't matter that it

2897
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:11,700
has lost plenty of leaders to
Israeli attacks before. How do

2898
02:52:11,700 --> 02:52:15,390
you see the loss of money
affecting the group's operations

2899
02:52:15,420 --> 02:52:17,250
and the war in Gaza overall?

2900
02:52:17,760 --> 02:52:21,480
Well, in terms of Hamas is
operations, it's not going to

2901
02:52:21,480 --> 02:52:25,500
change that much in the
immediate term, and that there

2902
02:52:25,500 --> 02:52:28,830
will be a replacement. And it's
not the first time that Hamas

2903
02:52:28,830 --> 02:52:33,390
leader has been assassinated by
Israel and Hamas will survive,

2904
02:52:33,420 --> 02:52:37,800
but also probably gain a lot of
domestic political support among

2905
02:52:37,800 --> 02:52:42,060
Palestinians. Because Hania was
seen as someone who's not a

2906
02:52:42,060 --> 02:52:44,280
radical, not even a military
person.

2907
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:49,320
I want to follow up on that. You
think that there will be

2908
02:52:49,320 --> 02:52:53,010
actually more support for Hamas
following honey as death?

2909
02:52:53,010 --> 02:52:56,160
Because he was moderate. But, I
mean, doesn't that depend on who

2910
02:52:56,160 --> 02:53:00,780
succeeds Hania? If he was more
moderate, in your view, might

2911
02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:03,480
that actually harden Hamas is
resolved and perhaps leave

2912
02:53:03,480 --> 02:53:06,180
leadership in the hands of
hardliners? Yeah,

2913
02:53:06,180 --> 02:53:09,330
and I think the two things can
both be true. I mean, you can

2914
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:12,990
gain support, because people
will sympathize with Hamas that

2915
02:53:12,990 --> 02:53:19,530
has taken so many losses. And
also, it is likely to radicalize

2916
02:53:19,560 --> 02:53:23,310
the movement from within. Okay,

2917
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:25,590
John C Dvorak: all right. That's
based I had to cut that off

2918
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:26,940
because the guy was boring.
Yeah.

2919
02:53:26,970 --> 02:53:28,830
Adam Curry: But the it's quite
boring.

2920
02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:32,430
John C Dvorak: But the thing
that's interesting is discuss a

2921
02:53:32,430 --> 02:53:35,550
little bit about these last two
clips, which are the analysis

2922
02:53:35,550 --> 02:53:41,280
clips from NTD which has good at
they have they bring on good an

2923
02:53:41,340 --> 02:53:47,310
analyst better than the what you
heard was NPR was the fact that

2924
02:53:47,310 --> 02:53:51,240
this guy, this Hamas guy was in
a hardened facility owned by the

2925
02:53:51,240 --> 02:53:58,230
you know, run by the Iranian or
the Iranian, Iranian guard,

2926
02:53:58,260 --> 02:54:00,060
they've whatever that guard
operations

2927
02:54:00,060 --> 02:54:02,550
Adam Curry: called the
Revolutionary Guard.

2928
02:54:03,870 --> 02:54:06,060
John C Dvorak: And it was one of
those missiles that we've heard

2929
02:54:06,060 --> 02:54:08,790
about we see about we know about
we don't know the details how

2930
02:54:08,790 --> 02:54:11,010
they work. I think they're
working with a beacon

2931
02:54:11,010 --> 02:54:15,330
personally. But it's like shot
from 100 miles away up from a

2932
02:54:15,330 --> 02:54:17,640
new I think with an F 63

2933
02:54:17,640 --> 02:54:21,390
Adam Curry: laser precision
surgical miles away,

2934
02:54:21,390 --> 02:54:24,810
John C Dvorak: goes into Tehran
goes downtown goes up, the main

2935
02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:29,850
drag goes up and into the window
of that guy's room and blows him

2936
02:54:29,850 --> 02:54:30,090
up.

2937
02:54:30,120 --> 02:54:30,810
Unknown: Nice.

2938
02:54:32,340 --> 02:54:38,010
John C Dvorak: That's like, wow,
it is. So let's listen to this

2939
02:54:38,010 --> 02:54:38,970
guy. Earlier

2940
02:54:38,970 --> 02:54:41,400
Unknown: we spoke with Cameron
consul Renia, Vice President of

2941
02:54:41,400 --> 02:54:45,030
the National Union for democracy
in Iran about the killing of the

2942
02:54:45,030 --> 02:54:48,300
Hamas leader in Tehran. Now
Hamas is saying that its

2943
02:54:48,300 --> 02:54:52,320
political leader was killed by
an Israeli strike in Tehran,

2944
02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:55,770
Iran's capital. Now the Israeli
government has yet to take

2945
02:54:55,770 --> 02:54:59,400
credit for this but if it was
Israel, what is the message

2946
02:54:59,400 --> 02:54:59,970
here?

2947
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,940
I think the message to the
Islamic Republic is loudly and

2948
02:55:02,940 --> 02:55:07,050
clearly that wherever you are,
wherever your proxies are, even

2949
02:55:07,050 --> 02:55:10,380
if they're in the heart of your
capital, we can get you and we

2950
02:55:10,380 --> 02:55:13,230
will get you. And I think that
message was received very

2951
02:55:13,230 --> 02:55:18,030
clearly in Tehran. Ismail Hania,
the leader of Hamas was killed

2952
02:55:18,030 --> 02:55:22,290
in Tehran only hours after a
private meeting, in his secret

2953
02:55:22,290 --> 02:55:25,290
compound, the Supreme Leader
secret compound that is, and he

2954
02:55:25,290 --> 02:55:28,050
was there attending the
inauguration of the regime's new

2955
02:55:28,050 --> 02:55:31,080
president. So I think that
there's no doubt the message to

2956
02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:34,680
Tehran was, we will find you and
we will eliminate you. And we

2957
02:55:34,680 --> 02:55:36,960
can also do to other of your
officials as well, I think it

2958
02:55:36,960 --> 02:55:40,230
was not only the killing of his
mind hanya that was important.

2959
02:55:40,230 --> 02:55:43,650
It was the message that it was
sending to ally harmony to mass

2960
02:55:43,650 --> 02:55:46,530
with position Qian and enter the
leaders of the Islamic Republic,

2961
02:55:46,860 --> 02:55:50,790
that Israel has clearly
penetrated very high levels of

2962
02:55:50,790 --> 02:55:51,900
the regime in Tehran.

2963
02:55:52,350 --> 02:55:55,560
And in your view, is this
deterrence or escalation?

2964
02:55:55,830 --> 02:56:00,180
I think it's clearly deterrence.
I think it was such a blow to

2965
02:56:00,180 --> 02:56:04,620
the Islamic Republic. Obviously,
Ismail hanya is not Iranian. But

2966
02:56:04,620 --> 02:56:08,010
he is the leader of one of these
Republic's most important

2967
02:56:08,010 --> 02:56:10,650
proxies, had he been killed
anywhere, it would have been a

2968
02:56:10,650 --> 02:56:15,360
blow to the regime. The fact
that he was killed in Tehran, on

2969
02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:18,510
such an important day for the
regime, just hours after seeing

2970
02:56:18,510 --> 02:56:22,230
the supreme leader makes it all
that much more significant. And

2971
02:56:22,230 --> 02:56:25,500
I think that as a result of
this, it was such a significant

2972
02:56:25,500 --> 02:56:29,010
blow that the regime will be
forced to back down to it. To

2973
02:56:29,010 --> 02:56:31,470
some extent, I don't think that
this will lead to a larger

2974
02:56:31,470 --> 02:56:33,930
escalation, or a full out war.

2975
02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:37,860
Adam Curry: So my question is,
if this guy is like an important

2976
02:56:37,860 --> 02:56:42,450
Hamas guy, how do you get to
Iran? Did he hop into a jet at

2977
02:56:42,480 --> 02:56:44,160
Gaza International?

2978
02:56:45,570 --> 02:56:49,440
John C Dvorak: This is the guy
who is who is living in Qatar.

2979
02:56:49,440 --> 02:56:49,800
Oh,

2980
02:56:49,800 --> 02:56:52,620
Adam Curry: this is that guy?
Oh, he's one of the Okay. Well,

2981
02:56:52,620 --> 02:56:54,870
this had to be one of our
missiles. We didn't give Israel

2982
02:56:54,870 --> 02:56:55,590
that stuff.

2983
02:56:57,840 --> 02:56:59,910
John C Dvorak: I would have to
assume is one of our missiles

2984
02:56:59,910 --> 02:57:03,780
who dreams like this will blink
and

2985
02:57:05,340 --> 02:57:07,560
Adam Curry: Blink is like, Oh,
we don't know. It's like, we

2986
02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:09,900
don't know about it. No, we
don't know. We don't know.

2987
02:57:09,900 --> 02:57:12,660
John C Dvorak: Nothing, you
know, but it's like something I

2988
02:57:12,660 --> 02:57:15,420
you know, you have to wonder how
the technology works. I mean,

2989
02:57:15,900 --> 02:57:18,810
and this was supposedly the
tools

2990
02:57:18,840 --> 02:57:22,740
Adam Curry: easy. You got an
iPhone, we can kill you. I

2991
02:57:22,740 --> 02:57:25,440
John C Dvorak: think that might
be part of it. Yeah, they could

2992
02:57:25,440 --> 02:57:29,280
hone in on an iPhone signal.
They could hone in on some a bug

2993
02:57:29,280 --> 02:57:33,600
that's planted in the room. And
I want agents, Apple watch an

2994
02:57:33,600 --> 02:57:35,310
Apple Watch. One

2995
02:57:35,310 --> 02:57:38,160
Adam Curry: of those rings, one
of those smart rings.

2996
02:57:39,090 --> 02:57:42,420
John C Dvorak: Could it be? I
mean, but two things finds it

2997
02:57:42,420 --> 02:57:45,030
and then it just goes flying
around. And then they find it

2998
02:57:45,060 --> 02:57:48,870
goes into the window, which is
what kills me the money goes in

2999
02:57:48,870 --> 02:57:52,500
there and blows up the guy's
room and leaves everything else

3000
02:57:52,500 --> 02:57:53,250
there. It's

3001
02:57:53,250 --> 02:57:55,500
Adam Curry: like, what is the
iPhone of death?

3002
02:57:55,980 --> 02:57:58,200
John C Dvorak: I think that, you
know, it's I didn't think about

3003
02:57:58,200 --> 02:58:00,870
the iPhone, but it's it's
possible. They have the guy's

3004
02:58:00,870 --> 02:58:04,320
phone number. Maybe they're
calling him at the time. Yeah,

3005
02:58:04,860 --> 02:58:08,340
yeah, the pickup. Oh, goodness.
Well, here's part two of this.

3006
02:58:08,490 --> 02:58:08,730
And

3007
02:58:08,760 --> 02:58:10,740
Unknown: given the tensions we
are seeing in the region,

3008
02:58:10,740 --> 02:58:14,580
whether that's in Gaza, Lebanon,
even Turkey potentially weighing

3009
02:58:14,580 --> 02:58:18,450
in, what steps do you see as
needed to make sure this doesn't

3010
02:58:18,450 --> 02:58:21,180
become a regional war. There

3011
02:58:21,180 --> 02:58:24,780
will be more regional chaos,
there will be more murdered

3012
02:58:24,810 --> 02:58:29,790
innocent civilians on all sides.
Israeli Arab, Iranian Western,

3013
02:58:30,360 --> 02:58:33,570
as long as the regime in Iran is
still in power. The Islamic

3014
02:58:33,570 --> 02:58:38,160
Republic has spent 45 years
doing what it calls exporting

3015
02:58:38,160 --> 02:58:41,880
the revolution. It seeks to
undermine legitimate national

3016
02:58:41,880 --> 02:58:45,540
governments in Arab countries
around the world. We see right

3017
02:58:45,540 --> 02:58:48,960
now the Islamic Republic trying
to undermine the Saudi Arabian

3018
02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:51,150
government, the Jordanian
government, the Emirati

3019
02:58:51,150 --> 02:58:54,600
government, so many others have
effectively taken control of the

3020
02:58:54,600 --> 02:58:57,960
Iraqi government over the past
several years. So as long as

3021
02:58:57,960 --> 02:59:01,800
this regime is in power, there
is no real path to peace. There

3022
02:59:01,800 --> 02:59:05,850
is no better deal to be had with
the regime in Iran. The only

3023
02:59:05,850 --> 02:59:08,700
solution really lies in
supporting the people of Iran

3024
02:59:08,700 --> 02:59:12,120
who every day are facing the
brunt of this evil and criminal

3025
02:59:12,120 --> 02:59:14,460
regime men are fighting back
against it. If they're

3026
02:59:14,460 --> 02:59:17,790
successful in getting rid of
ally harmony, the puppet master

3027
02:59:17,790 --> 02:59:20,940
of all this crime and terrorism,
then there's a real chance and

3028
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:26,130
if not probability, or guarantee
of peace. Until that happens. I

3029
02:59:26,130 --> 02:59:27,930
don't see a path to peace in the
Middle East.

3030
02:59:28,620 --> 02:59:31,950
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. My
analysis real quick. This is the

3031
02:59:31,950 --> 02:59:34,800
military industrial complex
doing their own thing. They

3032
02:59:34,800 --> 02:59:38,040
don't think Blinken knew about
it at all. They're doing it.

3033
02:59:38,070 --> 02:59:40,590
They're making sure that we get
something started here make it

3034
02:59:40,590 --> 02:59:43,650
look real scary. Trump may even
have something to do with it.

3035
02:59:43,650 --> 02:59:46,230
This This has Trump written all
over by the way I could just see

3036
02:59:46,230 --> 02:59:50,460
him coming out going. We had a
smart bomb. It was so smart. It

3037
02:59:50,460 --> 02:59:55,140
was so it was it was so smart.
It's like I got high IQ but this

3038
02:59:55,140 --> 02:59:56,700
bomb died is is very

3039
02:59:56,700 --> 02:59:59,610
John C Dvorak: smart. You sound
like Gorka. Yeah.

3040
03:00:00,539 --> 03:00:03,779
Adam Curry: same, you know, the
Trump also leaked out his peace

3041
03:00:03,779 --> 03:00:07,229
plan for Ukraine, where he says
if I'm reelected, I'm going to

3042
03:00:07,229 --> 03:00:10,859
cut off Ukraine aid to Ukraine,
but also I'm going to impose

3043
03:00:11,909 --> 03:00:16,139
sanctions on Russia that you've
never seen before. This is I

3044
03:00:16,139 --> 03:00:19,469
think this is playing out in the
background. The Peacemaker is

3045
03:00:19,469 --> 03:00:23,399
coming. This is his big October
surprise, he's going to figure

3046
03:00:23,399 --> 03:00:27,029
out a way to claim it. He just
had Bibi Netanyahu there, none

3047
03:00:27,029 --> 03:00:30,929
of this is coincidence. That's
just my thinking.

3048
03:00:32,940 --> 03:00:35,850
John C Dvorak: Well, if anything
would be better than President

3049
03:00:35,850 --> 03:00:36,660
Harris.

3050
03:00:37,440 --> 03:00:40,770
Unknown: I'm gonna show my move
by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine

3051
03:00:40,770 --> 03:00:43,470
all the people who could do that
and pull Yeah, that'd be fun.

3052
03:00:50,610 --> 03:00:53,130
Adam Curry: Time to thank our
producers above $50 We

3053
03:00:53,130 --> 03:00:56,010
appreciate everything that
anybody sends us in our time,

3054
03:00:56,010 --> 03:00:59,940
talent and treasure value for
value system. Please consider us

3055
03:00:59,940 --> 03:01:03,390
at no agenda. donations.com If
you want us to keep going if you

3056
03:01:03,390 --> 03:01:05,790
want us for more years while
you're gonna have to support us,

3057
03:01:06,000 --> 03:01:07,950
John, take us through the 50s
Please. Yes,

3058
03:01:07,950 --> 03:01:10,680
John C Dvorak: let's start with
Anonymous in Holmes Beach,

3059
03:01:10,710 --> 03:01:18,660
Holmes Beach, Florida. 150. She
wants or he wants baby making

3060
03:01:18,660 --> 03:01:22,830
karma. We'll put that at the
end. If you don't mind, Martin

3061
03:01:22,830 --> 03:01:31,470
and CO Clune and Cologne
Deutschland 117 27. Oh, GM

3062
03:01:31,470 --> 03:01:34,560
Bradley and not we get that it's
good to have Germans listening.

3063
03:01:36,090 --> 03:01:39,000
Especially after the last show
where they had a meet up that

3064
03:01:39,000 --> 03:01:39,120
had

3065
03:01:39,120 --> 03:01:41,460
Adam Curry: a lot of GA and had
a good time.

3066
03:01:42,150 --> 03:01:43,590
John C Dvorak: Well, the Germans
haven't.

3067
03:01:45,060 --> 03:01:47,220
Adam Curry: Because I can see
because I got high, high high.

3068
03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:52,950
John C Dvorak: They like to sing
and they do they do. You go to a

3069
03:01:52,950 --> 03:01:58,290
German pub or actually a brow
house. There's a lot of Germans

3070
03:01:58,440 --> 03:02:00,690
and there's big tables and
they're throwing a beer all over

3071
03:02:00,690 --> 03:02:03,510
there. And there's the each
individual tab will be singing

3072
03:02:03,510 --> 03:02:05,190
some some song that's

3073
03:02:05,190 --> 03:02:09,330
Adam Curry: weird. I was great.
Weird. Weird is weird man. GM

3074
03:02:09,330 --> 03:02:11,760
John C Dvorak: Bradley in
Knoxville, Tennessee. $100. And

3075
03:02:11,760 --> 03:02:12,720
he's a D douching.

3076
03:02:14,850 --> 03:02:16,710
Unknown: Youth Band D deuced.

3077
03:02:16,890 --> 03:02:21,990
John C Dvorak: That's for his
wife. Yes, Mrs. Bradley. Jason

3078
03:02:21,990 --> 03:02:28,080
Chapman and McHenry, Illinois.
808. Kevin McLaughlin, Concord,

3079
03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:31,800
North Carolina. He's the
Archduke a luna lover of

3080
03:02:31,800 --> 03:02:36,540
America. 808 and boobs. Brittany
Miller and Trinidad Colorado.

3081
03:02:36,570 --> 03:02:37,980
808 And

3082
03:02:37,980 --> 03:02:40,560
Adam Curry: she says thanks for
the homebuying karma on the

3083
03:02:40,560 --> 03:02:44,100
occasion of my loving husband's
knighthood, Sir Hans your hand.

3084
03:02:44,100 --> 03:02:48,030
Sure hand. It works. We got the
house karma warriors.

3085
03:02:48,270 --> 03:02:52,860
John C Dvorak: So it works.
Cameron Linga in North Branch

3086
03:02:52,860 --> 03:03:01,830
Minnesota 7881 Adam Provencher
Provan sir Provencher Provencher

3087
03:03:01,830 --> 03:03:11,760
I guess East York Ontario Canada
6969. Dawn Canary Kaz in May dot

3088
03:03:12,000 --> 03:03:16,860
made Dano may Dawn yo Medano
Santa Cruz. He's in Spain,

3089
03:03:16,950 --> 03:03:19,410
Adam Curry: in Tenerife, the
Isle of Tenerife and he sent a

3090
03:03:19,410 --> 03:03:22,170
long note in Tenerife is an
island. Yes. And it's his

3091
03:03:22,650 --> 03:03:25,980
birthday. So he's on the list.
6707

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03:03:25,980 --> 03:03:29,970
John C Dvorak: Thank you for the
note, Greg Kohler in Evansville,

3093
03:03:29,970 --> 03:03:33,960
it must have come in another
check then. Craig Kohler in

3094
03:03:33,960 --> 03:03:39,450
Evansville, Indiana. 6502. James
Buell in Vista California 606

3095
03:03:39,450 --> 03:03:50,100
Bode peche in memory Louisiana
5809 He says I ended up one of

3096
03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:53,820
the pieces in the newsletter and
Harris could win this thing. He

3097
03:03:53,820 --> 03:04:05,370
says that scared me. Well, it
should John Tucker 5510 Parcel

3098
03:04:05,370 --> 03:04:11,670
pusher parcel push a part parcel
parcel. Oh Miss up ah said

3099
03:04:12,030 --> 03:04:17,850
parcel pusher in apex. North
Carolina. He's obviously we're

3100
03:04:17,850 --> 03:04:25,530
through UPS 5333 Nicholas Oman
in Dilworth, Minnesota to D 325.

3101
03:04:25,950 --> 03:04:31,380
Surely O'Brien in Dover, New
Jersey, but the 272 are reserved

3102
03:04:31,380 --> 03:04:39,150
suver souverain reinsert our ID
zrt was a he's in Holland How do

3103
03:04:39,150 --> 03:04:40,170
you pronounce that name?

3104
03:04:41,880 --> 03:04:45,360
Adam Curry: This is not a Dutch
name research superline his

3105
03:04:45,360 --> 03:04:49,890
daughter's Jana. Her second trip
around the sun on July 29. We

3106
03:04:49,890 --> 03:04:52,110
love you says we love you and
your daughter Jana

3107
03:04:54,390 --> 03:04:57,000
John C Dvorak: I think that came
in late and respite gonna get

3108
03:04:57,000 --> 03:05:02,010
mentioned again in the next
show. Okay. There Here's a blank

3109
03:05:02,040 --> 03:05:07,290
entry in Shasta Lake, California
5150. I assume that's anonymous,

3110
03:05:07,290 --> 03:05:12,690
but I don't know. Justin Kaler
and Bluffton, Indiana. 50 oz

3111
03:05:12,690 --> 03:05:15,660
we're already at the 50s we're
gonna read them off name and

3112
03:05:15,660 --> 03:05:19,680
location Justin Kaler in
Bluffton and a Drake in

3113
03:05:19,680 --> 03:05:24,870
Whitestone, Indiana David Steele
and mobile Mobile, Alabama, leaf

3114
03:05:24,870 --> 03:05:29,280
Thompson and meridian Idaho,
Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill,

3115
03:05:29,280 --> 03:05:34,200
Georgia, Brian sharp in
Huntsville, Alabama, Tony Lange

3116
03:05:34,200 --> 03:05:37,920
and Castle Pines, Colorado,
Jordan Tierney and aural South

3117
03:05:37,920 --> 03:05:45,150
Dakota, Scott McCarty in Lodi,
Jordan Plano in Salem, Oregon,

3118
03:05:45,210 --> 03:05:50,460
Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg,
Florida and last on the

3119
03:05:50,460 --> 03:05:56,010
shortlist, Leslie Walker and
she's in Roseburg, Oregon want

3120
03:05:56,010 --> 03:06:01,560
to thank these people for
helping us and show 1682 Yes,

3121
03:06:01,560 --> 03:06:03,870
Adam Curry: thank you again
everybody for supporting us any

3122
03:06:03,870 --> 03:06:06,660
value works. Anything you want
to return is appreciated. No

3123
03:06:06,660 --> 03:06:11,640
agenda donations.com Here's to
Carmen's as requested karma.

3124
03:06:11,760 --> 03:06:15,180
That's your regular karma and
here's your baby making karma.

3125
03:06:20,940 --> 03:06:21,510
Unknown: Karma,

3126
03:06:21,840 --> 03:06:24,510
Adam Curry: no agenda
donations.com support the show

3127
03:06:24,510 --> 03:06:27,780
today. Oops to support the show
today. There we go.

3128
03:06:34,260 --> 03:06:37,470
The family you do have a long
birthday list Richard souverain

3129
03:06:37,470 --> 03:06:40,020
wishes his daughter younger
Happy Birthday turns to on the

3130
03:06:40,020 --> 03:06:43,920
29th Michelle Meyer wishes are
turned to on the 29th that you

3131
03:06:43,920 --> 03:06:48,750
say it's a belated birthday.
Michelle Meyer her daughter

3132
03:06:48,750 --> 03:06:53,190
Alison Strang turn 34 on the
30th Zach and Danny say happy

3133
03:06:53,190 --> 03:06:57,450
birthday to Sarah turned 33 on
the 30th Don Canary cars he

3134
03:06:57,450 --> 03:07:01,860
celebrated on the 30th Dave
Petron turned 65 yesterday Mr.

3135
03:07:01,860 --> 03:07:06,120
Black wishes his daughter Eva.
Very Happy Birthday turns 13

3136
03:07:06,120 --> 03:07:10,800
tomorrow, sir Marv not married.
wishes his son Cory Centella

3137
03:07:10,800 --> 03:07:14,880
Happy Birthday turns 31 today
and Evie. Her husband John

3138
03:07:14,880 --> 03:07:18,210
Calbert. Turns out he has a
birthday on the fourth. And Jill

3139
03:07:18,210 --> 03:07:22,170
Melka wishes her husband Joe
romesco a very happy birthday.

3140
03:07:22,380 --> 03:07:25,890
He turned 60 Happy birthday,
buddy. Here's the best podcast

3141
03:07:25,890 --> 03:07:31,650
in the universe. Now we do have
one. Let me see. Wait, this is

3142
03:07:31,650 --> 03:07:33,270
uh, make good notes here.

3143
03:07:36,360 --> 03:07:38,100
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
running late because the

3144
03:07:38,100 --> 03:07:40,140
pipeline on rails went by

3145
03:07:40,170 --> 03:07:43,080
Adam Curry: we are running late.
So this isn't make good for Jill

3146
03:07:43,080 --> 03:07:46,170
Mel's from Jill Mel show I'm
writing to deduce my smokin hot

3147
03:07:46,170 --> 03:07:51,540
husband Joe romesco for his
recent 60th birthday. You spend

3148
03:07:51,540 --> 03:07:55,560
deep doo she made me aware of
this podcast more than a year

3149
03:07:55,560 --> 03:07:57,810
ago and we look forward to
listening to your point of view

3150
03:07:57,810 --> 03:08:00,720
on several issues. We listen to
the media in a more critical way

3151
03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:02,760
because of the knowledge and the
podcasts and routinely

3152
03:08:02,760 --> 03:08:06,240
recommended to our friends. Joe
is an amazing father to our 19

3153
03:08:06,240 --> 03:08:08,940
year old son Luca and his
friends found endless ways to

3154
03:08:08,940 --> 03:08:12,390
make my life easier. He is as
funny as he is smart and I could

3155
03:08:12,390 --> 03:08:14,790
not imagine my life without him.
I want him to know how much we

3156
03:08:14,790 --> 03:08:17,940
love and appreciate him every
single day Happy Birthday jokes

3157
03:08:17,940 --> 03:08:21,300
and jobs karma from his smokin
hot wife Jill

3158
03:08:21,300 --> 03:08:25,830
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for

3159
03:08:25,830 --> 03:08:26,550
jobs.

3160
03:08:28,620 --> 03:08:32,550
Adam Curry: And then we do have
one night this is an interesting

3161
03:08:32,580 --> 03:08:36,690
name how would you pronounce
that sir? eternus qui Vai? Would

3162
03:08:36,690 --> 03:08:41,850
you pronounce that one qu iev
query a query? query a query a

3163
03:08:41,850 --> 03:08:49,350
query query Evi QUIEVI Korea V
Kalevi each m sure it's Latin

3164
03:08:49,350 --> 03:08:58,650
for something rude as it usually
is. No help. No help. I lose all

3165
03:08:59,160 --> 03:09:00,360
I'll just mumble he missed

3166
03:09:00,360 --> 03:09:02,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, it's
because I think is Latin or

3167
03:09:03,780 --> 03:09:06,120
Adam Curry: bring out your blade
forever

3168
03:09:06,150 --> 03:09:09,810
John C Dvorak: for Amis forever.
It turned his MS forever. Yes.

3169
03:09:10,110 --> 03:09:12,840
Key heavy. I don't know what
that means. I'd have to look at

3170
03:09:13,500 --> 03:09:14,970
the blade. Okay. Oh, there

3171
03:09:14,970 --> 03:09:19,410
Adam Curry: it is beautiful.
Andrew Alexander. Thanks for the

3172
03:09:19,410 --> 03:09:23,610
confusion. You sir have
supported the best podcast in

3173
03:09:23,610 --> 03:09:26,700
the university in amount of
$1,000 or more that makes you

3174
03:09:26,910 --> 03:09:30,420
actually that presents you with
a seat right here at the round

3175
03:09:30,420 --> 03:09:33,150
table the no agenda Knights and
Dames I'm very proud to

3176
03:09:33,150 --> 03:09:37,440
pronounce the k d as Sir eternus
Queer v. And we're going to

3177
03:09:37,440 --> 03:09:39,990
leave it at that for you. We
have hookers and blow rent boys

3178
03:09:39,990 --> 03:09:43,410
and Chardonnay. If that's not
your to your liking, we got diet

3179
03:09:43,410 --> 03:09:46,740
soda and video games we have
Polish potato vodka. We got beer

3180
03:09:46,740 --> 03:09:50,220
and blondes we have redheads and
rise Rubenesque women in Rosae

3181
03:09:50,220 --> 03:09:53,190
Geisha sock a buck him and Ella
bong hits and bourbon sparkling

3182
03:09:53,190 --> 03:09:56,190
cider an escort ginger ale and
Jerboas breast milk and pablum.

3183
03:09:56,400 --> 03:10:00,090
And of course, there's always
the mutton and the mead And

3184
03:10:00,090 --> 03:10:02,550
congratulations Welcome to the
round table go to no agenda

3185
03:10:02,550 --> 03:10:05,850
rings.com Take a look at that
handsome ring which is for

3186
03:10:05,850 --> 03:10:08,730
Knights and Dames the signet
ring so it gives you wax to seal

3187
03:10:08,730 --> 03:10:12,930
your important correspondence.
It says it hit him in the mouth

3188
03:10:13,620 --> 03:10:15,630
in the morning, something like
that hit him in the eye I

3189
03:10:15,630 --> 03:10:19,260
John C Dvorak: would say this
name means to forever remain

3190
03:10:19,260 --> 03:10:23,820
neutral or abstain from action,
keep quiet standby well and

3191
03:10:23,850 --> 03:10:24,720
Adam Curry: hit him in the
mouth.

3192
03:10:25,170 --> 03:10:26,130
Unknown: Yes, send

3193
03:10:26,130 --> 03:10:28,770
Adam Curry: us your ring size
please so we can send the proper

3194
03:10:28,770 --> 03:10:32,070
one to you. And as always, all
these rings are accompanied with

3195
03:10:32,070 --> 03:10:35,610
a personally signed certificate
of authenticity from John and

3196
03:10:35,610 --> 03:10:38,190
myself. And welcome to the no
agenda roundtable.

3197
03:10:44,460 --> 03:10:49,020
I did not see any meetup reports
for today's program, but we do

3198
03:10:49,020 --> 03:10:52,710
have a wonderful promo for the
upcoming London meetup.

3199
03:10:55,200 --> 03:10:59,040
Unknown: No agenda news. Your
next scheduled dose of

3200
03:10:59,040 --> 03:11:04,500
corrective rejection is due on
Sunday the 25th of August. We're

3201
03:11:04,500 --> 03:11:10,770
wrapping up in Fitzrovia London
Gold, the law of the land.

3202
03:11:11,340 --> 03:11:13,710
Please be aware that they go
down Yeah. And monster demands

3203
03:11:13,710 --> 03:11:19,440
will be provided good as the
other house. Square. Well see.

3204
03:11:19,440 --> 03:11:19,650
Yeah.

3205
03:11:20,580 --> 03:11:22,800
Adam Curry: I think this is the
wolf's own pub, if I'm not

3206
03:11:22,800 --> 03:11:26,700
mistaken. So that'll be a good,
a good meetup. And we just heard

3207
03:11:26,700 --> 03:11:31,230
from Canary Kaz in El Medano
montage row, Montana. Rohan is

3208
03:11:31,230 --> 03:11:35,310
in Tenerife, and he'd organized
a meetup today in Tenerife,

3209
03:11:35,310 --> 03:11:39,540
Canary Islands, and hopefully
you were there for it. Also

3210
03:11:39,540 --> 03:11:42,750
today the northern wake mini
potluck at six o'clock at hoppy

3211
03:11:42,750 --> 03:11:45,960
endings in Raleigh, North
Carolina. We have the we need to

3212
03:11:45,960 --> 03:11:50,130
talk Denver meet up today at 630
Museum of Nature and Science. On

3213
03:11:50,130 --> 03:11:55,110
Saturday the Red 33 Red 33
Boston summer sun Leo 2024

3214
03:11:55,110 --> 03:11:59,610
meetup Castle Island brewery in
Norwood Norwood Massachusetts.

3215
03:11:59,970 --> 03:12:03,540
Also on Saturday, the Oregon
local 33 meet up at 530 Lucky

3216
03:12:03,540 --> 03:12:06,720
Labrador public house in
Portland. We have the 12

3217
03:12:06,750 --> 03:12:09,870
northwest Houston no agenda
meetup taking place on Saturday

3218
03:12:09,870 --> 03:12:13,140
Wakefield crowbar in Houston,
Texas. And on Sunday our next

3219
03:12:13,140 --> 03:12:16,740
show day the vault corner meet
up that'll be at noon at the

3220
03:12:16,740 --> 03:12:21,180
vault bistro and wine bar in
Blaine Washington many more

3221
03:12:21,390 --> 03:12:24,570
awesome meetups all over the
world taking place there

3222
03:12:24,570 --> 03:12:27,960
producer organized so you can
start one yourself. It's very

3223
03:12:27,960 --> 03:12:32,220
easy go to no agenda meetups.com
One thing is always guaranteed.

3224
03:12:32,370 --> 03:12:35,820
You get connection. You get
protection, and they're always a

3225
03:12:35,820 --> 03:12:37,890
party. No agenda meetups.com

3226
03:12:40,770 --> 03:12:54,660
Unknown: With all day, you'd be
triggered. You'd say

3227
03:12:55,950 --> 03:12:58,380
is like a party? Yeah, yeah,

3228
03:12:58,380 --> 03:13:00,840
Adam Curry: like a party.
Everybody is like a party. It's

3229
03:13:00,840 --> 03:13:03,780
almost like a party. It's just
like a party. It's a big party.

3230
03:13:03,930 --> 03:13:09,360
No agenda. meetups.com Yes,
indeed. As always, we like to.

3231
03:13:11,280 --> 03:13:16,500
We like to do our end of show
ISOs who like to select those

3232
03:13:16,530 --> 03:13:19,020
with the group. Although it's
really only Adam and John who

3233
03:13:19,020 --> 03:13:22,860
decide. I have to you have
three. I'll go first. Are You

3234
03:13:22,860 --> 03:13:30,060
Ready? Ready? That's insane.
That's insane. Okay, and here's

3235
03:13:30,060 --> 03:13:30,930
my second one.

3236
03:13:31,230 --> 03:13:36,270
Unknown: Thanks so much, guys.
Bye. Not too bad. Yeah.

3237
03:13:36,540 --> 03:13:38,700
John C Dvorak: Okay, I've got
three when I start the bottom we

3238
03:13:38,700 --> 03:13:41,370
go from the bottom up start with
Wow, wow, that

3239
03:13:41,370 --> 03:13:44,220
Unknown: was a big difference.
Yes. Little muddy

3240
03:13:44,250 --> 03:13:46,380
John C Dvorak: little muddy.
very muddy. very muddy. I tried

3241
03:13:46,380 --> 03:13:48,060
try Revenge. Revenge

3242
03:13:48,060 --> 03:13:49,140
Unknown: is our duty.

3243
03:13:50,010 --> 03:13:53,250
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. All
right. I'm not gonna dismiss it

3244
03:13:53,250 --> 03:13:54,030
out of hand.

3245
03:13:54,450 --> 03:13:56,610
John C Dvorak: And then really
good. And it was really good

3246
03:13:56,610 --> 03:13:58,260
actually. Well, I

3247
03:13:58,260 --> 03:14:00,780
Adam Curry: think it's between
thanks so much guys. Bye.

3248
03:14:00,840 --> 03:14:03,000
Unknown: And revenge is our
duty.

3249
03:14:04,290 --> 03:14:07,050
John C Dvorak: I kind of like my
thing so I liked a combination

3250
03:14:07,050 --> 03:14:08,010
of the two No, I

3251
03:14:08,010 --> 03:14:10,230
Adam Curry: don't I don't like I
don't like combos I think it's a

3252
03:14:10,230 --> 03:14:14,100
weak make all we say that make a
decision you do them make a

3253
03:14:14,100 --> 03:14:14,730
decision.

3254
03:14:16,410 --> 03:14:18,780
John C Dvorak: I don't get
revenge is kind of a negative

3255
03:14:18,780 --> 03:14:21,180
thing. I'll go with your up
upbeat one.

3256
03:14:21,330 --> 03:14:23,070
Unknown: Thanks so much, guys.
Bye. Yeah, I

3257
03:14:23,070 --> 03:14:25,440
Adam Curry: agree. I think
that's much better. Thank you.

3258
03:14:25,470 --> 03:14:28,170
Thank you for making a wise
decision. And now ladies,

3259
03:14:28,170 --> 03:14:30,720
gentlemen, as we end the show,
it's time once again.

3260
03:14:34,530 --> 03:14:35,040
Unknown: Just

3261
03:14:35,880 --> 03:14:40,410
Adam Curry: JC, just the tip
only the tip times. Nothing but

3262
03:14:40,410 --> 03:14:44,310
the tip but as your tip of the
day so you can go into your day

3263
03:14:44,310 --> 03:14:48,090
and eventually into your weekend
with good information with a tip

3264
03:14:48,210 --> 03:14:50,490
John C Dvorak: or tips another
product another product I want

3265
03:14:50,490 --> 03:14:51,840
to promote from Amazon and

3266
03:14:51,840 --> 03:14:53,400
Adam Curry: are you promoting
Amazon again? Is that what's

3267
03:14:53,400 --> 03:14:53,730
going on?

3268
03:14:53,730 --> 03:14:56,280
John C Dvorak: Unfortunately,
you can probably get it

3269
03:14:56,280 --> 03:14:58,650
elsewhere. You can probably
relate directly to the company.

3270
03:14:58,980 --> 03:15:02,520
But this was a this is another
lubricant that was developed by

3271
03:15:02,520 --> 03:15:03,810
Boeing another

3272
03:15:04,950 --> 03:15:06,750
Adam Curry: lubricant tip
everybody.

3273
03:15:07,260 --> 03:15:10,260
John C Dvorak: I know this is
the one that I wanted to plug

3274
03:15:10,290 --> 03:15:13,350
some time ago and I came up with
liquid bearing which is a second

3275
03:15:13,620 --> 03:15:19,710
second to it. This is called bow
shield t nine. This is a modern

3276
03:15:19,710 --> 03:15:24,180
version of WD 40. And it's like
ranch hand is more like ranch

3277
03:15:24,180 --> 03:15:24,660
and with a

3278
03:15:25,860 --> 03:15:29,730
Adam Curry: stop the show. No
agenda shop needs to make Jhansi

3279
03:15:29,730 --> 03:15:34,320
Dvorak lube I don't, I don't
care what what it consists is

3280
03:15:34,320 --> 03:15:38,790
John C Dvorak: not a lube. Okay.
It's a rust and corrosion

3281
03:15:38,790 --> 03:15:42,660
protection product which isn't
waterproof lubrication, but it's

3282
03:15:42,660 --> 03:15:46,710
rust and corrosion protection.
And it's something everybody

3283
03:15:46,710 --> 03:15:49,200
needs in their in their arsenal.
Everybody

3284
03:15:49,620 --> 03:15:51,540
Adam Curry: needs a t nine

3285
03:15:51,540 --> 03:15:53,460
John C Dvorak: is called t nine.

3286
03:15:53,880 --> 03:15:56,880
Adam Curry: That's a capital T
number nine is that it?

3287
03:15:56,910 --> 03:15:59,610
John C Dvorak: Capital T dash
nine. All right, well, that

3288
03:15:59,610 --> 03:16:04,410
Adam Curry: is a wonderful tip.
Just lube up with John Cena for

3289
03:16:06,750 --> 03:16:07,230
the day.

3290
03:16:07,800 --> 03:16:08,700
Unknown: Thanks for listening.

3291
03:16:09,630 --> 03:16:11,280
Y'all come back now you hear

3292
03:16:12,300 --> 03:16:14,100
Adam Curry: man? Oh man. Oh man.

3293
03:16:15,330 --> 03:16:20,490
John C Dvorak: www Bo shield
that comm B O E.

3294
03:16:20,820 --> 03:16:24,270
Adam Curry: Hey, we got a ton of
great end of show mixes of this

3295
03:16:24,270 --> 03:16:28,050
dynamite long show wasn't
already good enough for you. Sir

3296
03:16:28,050 --> 03:16:33,390
Chris Wilson returns with a
vengeance. He's back everybody

3297
03:16:33,390 --> 03:16:36,660
with a great end of show makes
gruff who you just heard with

3298
03:16:36,660 --> 03:16:42,030
his London meetup promo. So he's
in the UK. And so we've got

3299
03:16:42,060 --> 03:16:46,710
Australia for Sir Chris. We've
got UK for Guelph. We've got

3300
03:16:46,800 --> 03:16:52,800
China Professor J. Jones. And
then we have Judd. I don't even

3301
03:16:52,800 --> 03:16:58,140
know where Judds from Judd who
brings us a nice little guitar.

3302
03:16:58,350 --> 03:17:01,410
Did he for sweet Willie Brown.
Yes, they are. The end of show

3303
03:17:01,410 --> 03:17:08,190
mixes are awesome. Coming up
next on the stream. I don't even

3304
03:17:08,190 --> 03:17:11,610
know what we have next. I don't
know. It'll be something good.

3305
03:17:12,540 --> 03:17:15,150
I'm sorry. I don't have anything
to promote. You just have to

3306
03:17:15,150 --> 03:17:17,940
take my word for coming to you
from the heartland Texas Hill

3307
03:17:17,940 --> 03:17:20,130
Country right here in FEMA
Region number six in the

3308
03:17:20,130 --> 03:17:21,990
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

3309
03:17:22,050 --> 03:17:24,600
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

3310
03:17:24,600 --> 03:17:26,640
I'm John C. Dvorak. Remember

3311
03:17:26,640 --> 03:17:29,250
Adam Curry: us at no agenda.
donations.com stepping up

3312
03:17:29,250 --> 03:17:33,270
everybody. Thank you so much
until Sunday, adios Mufasa who

3313
03:17:33,270 --> 03:17:44,190
up and such you see real Joe
Biden or whatever. Standing next

3314
03:17:44,190 --> 03:17:48,810
to Jill. She comes up with above
his shoulders. And then this guy

3315
03:17:48,810 --> 03:17:50,580
we're just gonna call daddy long
legs

3316
03:17:54,000 --> 03:17:56,040
John C Dvorak: do I think that
moniker is good? Because the

3317
03:17:56,040 --> 03:18:00,180
thing that's most notable has
really long legs.

3318
03:18:01,980 --> 03:18:02,760
Unknown: Legs

3319
03:18:04,200 --> 03:18:06,390
he's taller than Joe Biden

3320
03:18:08,460 --> 03:18:10,710
he's got legs

3321
03:18:16,110 --> 03:18:21,210
too tall for Joe one wonder who
they use

3322
03:18:23,670 --> 03:18:28,770
he ain't that slow he hasn't
started drooling

3323
03:18:46,560 --> 03:18:48,210
he's got a mask

3324
03:18:49,770 --> 03:18:52,020
made by the CIA

3325
03:18:54,120 --> 03:19:05,730
it's got a lab if Joe is passed
away they use AI as a

3326
03:19:05,730 --> 03:19:07,290
conversation

3327
03:19:13,980 --> 03:19:14,910
nation

3328
03:19:16,920 --> 03:19:17,670
where are they?

3329
03:19:20,280 --> 03:19:25,980
Oh Joey. He's dying.

3330
03:19:30,810 --> 03:19:35,190
Adam Curry: About this is the
first most obvious thing. Joe is

3331
03:19:35,220 --> 03:19:38,250
is not doing well. Health wise.
By the way someone sends him an

3332
03:19:38,250 --> 03:19:41,790
interesting note saying those
bruises on his face probably

3333
03:19:41,790 --> 03:19:45,540
from a hospital CPAP mask. We
also like to thank our executive

3334
03:19:45,540 --> 03:19:47,760
and Associate Executive
producers because it is time

3335
03:19:47,760 --> 03:19:50,430
talent and treasure. We're happy
with anything that's of value

3336
03:19:50,430 --> 03:19:53,850
for value works, whatever you
can afford. Whatever you find is

3337
03:19:53,880 --> 03:19:56,880
the value that you receive from
the show is good with us.

3338
03:19:57,630 --> 03:20:06,000
Unknown: Whatever gets you to a
nice Rice is rice to give your

3339
03:20:06,000 --> 03:20:18,870
value chain your why Assad rice
it's nice to get you nice ya

3340
03:20:18,870 --> 03:20:29,880
know whatever gets you to a nice
is all rice is all rice strategy

3341
03:20:29,880 --> 03:20:35,010
and size. It's all rights it's
all rights

3342
03:20:44,070 --> 03:20:46,650
Adam Curry: as you know we can't
do advertising or anything else

3343
03:20:46,650 --> 03:20:49,200
because the show wouldn't have
been on the air for almost 17

3344
03:20:49,200 --> 03:20:52,530
years. We're happy with anything
that's a value for value works,

3345
03:20:52,530 --> 03:20:56,340
whatever you can afford whatever
you find is the value that you

3346
03:20:56,340 --> 03:21:00,240
receive from the show is good
with us. That's always good with

3347
03:21:00,240 --> 03:21:00,570
us.

3348
03:21:00,660 --> 03:21:06,270
Unknown: It's no

3349
03:21:07,380 --> 03:21:12,720
good with us. Sadness. They call
them a douchebag call give them

3350
03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:18,090
some value $4 A month have

3351
03:21:18,090 --> 03:21:18,960
achieved knighthood.

3352
03:21:19,770 --> 03:21:21,630
Adam Curry: That's less than a
latte. Isn't it?

3353
03:21:23,160 --> 03:21:24,630
Unknown: Cool nowadays? Yeah.

3354
03:21:25,560 --> 03:21:28,860
John C Dvorak: When I was a kid,
it was a nickel. Listen to what

3355
03:21:28,890 --> 03:21:29,430
Sasaki

3356
03:21:29,430 --> 03:21:29,730
Adam Curry: says.

3357
03:21:30,270 --> 03:21:31,890
Unknown: That's the Vice
President of the United States.

3358
03:21:31,890 --> 03:21:35,490
Kamala Harris is unqualified to
be president on her own merits.

3359
03:21:35,850 --> 03:21:39,210
And for the last three and a
half years. She has been rice

3360
03:21:39,210 --> 03:21:44,130
President of the United States
for rice rice. Straight up

3361
03:21:44,130 --> 03:21:45,030
disinformation.

3362
03:21:45,570 --> 03:21:46,650
rice rice,

3363
03:21:47,250 --> 03:21:48,420
Adam Curry: rice president.

3364
03:21:49,980 --> 03:21:50,760
Unknown: Right, right.

3365
03:21:50,880 --> 03:21:53,580
Adam Curry: She says rice
President of the United States,

3366
03:21:53,880 --> 03:21:54,390
Unknown: right.

3367
03:21:55,350 --> 03:22:00,060
Adam Curry: Listen to her. Do
you not hear this? That's good

3368
03:22:00,060 --> 03:22:01,350
show material right there.

3369
03:22:02,220 --> 03:22:03,210
Unknown: rice rice

3370
03:22:03,270 --> 03:22:04,890
is straight up disinformation.

3371
03:22:04,950 --> 03:22:07,350
But that's good. Right.

3372
03:22:07,830 --> 03:22:13,200
And for the last three and a
half years has been rice

3373
03:22:13,200 --> 03:22:14,550
President of the United States.

3374
03:22:16,080 --> 03:22:19,320
John C Dvorak: There's no way
she didn't say rice and steaks.

3375
03:22:20,370 --> 03:22:23,040
Adam Curry: That's good show
material right there. She says

3376
03:22:23,040 --> 03:22:25,200
rice President of the United
States.

3377
03:22:26,880 --> 03:22:33,300
Unknown: Nine is San Francisco.
Public all the town to go down

3378
03:22:33,300 --> 03:22:38,220
there. Well, your best is there.
Kamala and Willie Brown. Now

3379
03:22:38,220 --> 03:22:45,690
Willie got her nose open. Then
about six months three cops get

3380
03:22:45,690 --> 03:22:52,020
promoted and get the BMW most
free. Sweet, sweet Willie Brown,

3381
03:22:52,170 --> 03:22:56,220
sweetest man in the whole dang
town. tweeted that a doughnut

3382
03:22:56,220 --> 03:23:02,430
hole. Black and attitude. anko
now we're only a little shady.

3383
03:23:02,790 --> 03:23:08,430
investigated by the FBI. Well,
he gave here was real good job.

3384
03:23:08,730 --> 03:23:13,080
Ooh, that's real real nice. He
got a job go lead Chevrolet

3385
03:23:13,080 --> 03:23:18,840
Corvette voted best dress and
San Francisco. Kamala Harris the

3386
03:23:18,840 --> 03:23:24,990
parent while married to another
sweet sweet Willie Brown,

3387
03:23:25,170 --> 03:23:29,790
sweetest man and the whole day
down sweeter that doughnut hole.

3388
03:23:30,810 --> 03:23:37,230
blacker than a cold. Sweet,
sweet Willie Brown. Sweet is man

3389
03:23:37,230 --> 03:23:42,000
in the whole dang town tweeted
that a doughnut hole blacker

3390
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:55,050
than today. code.org/and

3391
03:23:56,880 --> 03:23:58,320
Thanks so much, guys. Bye

