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Unknown: Where's my Twinkies?

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Adam curry. John C Dvorak, yes.
Thursday,

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Adam Curry: September 5, 2024
this is your award winning

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gimlination. Media assassination
Episode 1692,

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Unknown: this is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: spreading Russian
disinformation and broadcasting

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live from the cruise ship,
capital of Mexico, just north of

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Puerto Vallarta. In the morning,
everybody? I'm Adam curry and

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're

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wondering why you're on the run.
I'm John C Dvorak.

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Unknown: It's Greg von Buzzkill.
In the morning, on the

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John C Dvorak: run, you're on
the run, on the border. I'm

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Adam Curry: on the land, man,

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John C Dvorak: I'm on Mexico.
Way.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, indeed. Excuse
me, yes. Tina, this was what I

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thought was my only present was
this

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John C Dvorak: short press. You
got a shotgun, yeah, I

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Adam Curry: know shot. Maybe I
got a lot of cool things,

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completely unexpected. 60 was a
great birthday. I had no effing

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hands and hope this thing pass.
Ah, you want

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John C Dvorak: to be 60 again
next year?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. No, I
don't care. Okay, I still feel

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15. That's, that's Dvorak laugh
for Yeah, you just wait. You

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just wait anyway. So we got it
all set up. It's all working. We

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got good bandwidth. This is the

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John C Dvorak: new rig. Sounds
Okay. Sounds good. That

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Adam Curry: sounds good. It
sounds like it always sounds

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John C Dvorak: the stream didn't
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Adam Curry: haven't gotten any
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didn't sound well.

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John C Dvorak: I mean, from my
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the system here, it was breaking
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Adam Curry: but you hear me?
Okay, hello, yeah,

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John C Dvorak: I'm actually
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Adam Curry: hey, this was really
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happened last night, and I
didn't even really pay much

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attention to it until Tina
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thread about this particular
occurrence, and I will start it

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with a short background or clip.
The Justice Department

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Unknown: says it has moved
aggressively to shut down what

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it says are Russian efforts to
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presidential election. The DOJ
says it sees 32 Kremlin run

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websites that were used to
spread Disinformation and

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Propaganda. Officials say
Russian argued operatives used

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AI to target us voters and
generate kind generate content,

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sharing false narratives to
Russian nationals who are media

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executives at a Russian state
news site. Have also been

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charged with violating the
foreign Agents Registration Act.

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They're accused of spending
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using an American based company
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English language videos. The FBI
field office will continue in

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Philadelphia, will continue to
investigate the case.

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Adam Curry: Now, were you
following this at all? Yeah,

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Unknown: of course. Eclipse,

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Adam Curry: okay, what do you
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, right. RT,
busted one,

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Adam Curry: okay. RT, busted
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Unknown: Russia is allegedly
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presidential election. Federal
us departments are now pressing

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charges against Russian
individuals while trying to

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seize dozens of internet domains
and TVs. INTERNATIONAL

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CORRESPONDENT Aryan pastor has
the story,

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the government of Russia
continued to use RT to direct

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Disinformation and Propaganda

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multiple us departments on
Wednesday alleging that Russia

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is meddling in this year's
presidential elections. The

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Department of Justice indicted
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Russian state owned media
outlet, RT, RT and

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its employees, including the
defendants, implemented a nearly

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ten million scheme to fund and
direct a Tennessee based company

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to publish and disseminate
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Russian government.

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The Department alleges that the
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foreign Agents Registration Act
in return for the money, the

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Tennessee company allegedly
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it then posted on Instagram,
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The Treasury Department also
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nine others over the alleged
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responded with ridicule, saying
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life, death, taxes and RTS
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elections, and separately from
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and the Justice Department are
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seize 32 websites, so called
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but in fact, they were fake
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Adam Curry: couple things before
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all, the foreign agent
Registration Act is this. Does

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this really qualify if someone
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site. I mean, this is not
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Does Farrah really qualify for
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John C Dvorak: This is a good
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They like to throw that. I mean,
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Adam Curry: so if so, if I
look@justice.gov and there's,

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here's the Farah foreign Agents
Registration Act was enacted in

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1938 requires certain agents of
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their relationship with the
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RT is kind of disclosed that, as
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disbursements in support of
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doesn't, first of all, we're the
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Voice of America. Hello, voice

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John C Dvorak: I got some clips
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Adam Curry: mean, this, this is
same thing. This is obviously

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complete crud. But the thing
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the Tennessee company that's
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John C Dvorak: Well, let's play
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even talk about that. Okay,

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Unknown: the DOJ published
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example, this one, which appears
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stating, Middle East coalition
of US allies, crumbles like a

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house of cards. Or another fake
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Kremlin will solve Ukraine's
problem. The FBI is now working

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to take these sites down. The
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Adam Curry: I know you have a
Kirby clip. I have a real short

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one here, Rear Admiral Kirby,
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Unknown: as you saw today, the
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Department of Treasury and State
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coordinated actions against
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the Russian government who are
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our elections. Specifically, all
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activities directed and funded
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today, to covertly spread
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Ukraine, bolstering pro Russian
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influencing voters here in the
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well. For their part, the
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sanctioning six executives and
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three executives associated with
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organizations. And additionally,
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designating a n o dialog, a
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sorry, a Russian government
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artificial intelligence to
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Russian disinformation for use
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Adam Curry: Okay, so we have a
lot of by the way, yeah,

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John C Dvorak: why is he so
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hyperventilating. Well, the
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John C Dvorak: is going on with
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Adam Curry: would say the the
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John C Dvorak: clips, I have
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clip's any different than that
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Adam Curry: this is military
industrial complex. This is Hey,

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hey, hey, hey, we've got people
speaking against Ukraine, and

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he's, you know, he's the rear
admiral. So they bring in the

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military, the ex military guide,
to say, oh, no, we can't have

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this. We can't have sites out
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that goes against the narrative
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But what? And this is funny,
because Tina, she unrelated,

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said, have you seen what's going
on with Tim pool? Now this is

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the part of the story where it
gets interesting. The Nashville

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or the Tennessee based company
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create 2000 different YouTube
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tenant media, I'll just read
from their website, fearless

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voices live here and the talent.
Meet the talent. Lauren

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Southern, Tim pool, Taylor
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Rubin, Benny Johnson, so it
turns out that any show and the

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Benny show, well, there's a
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Turns out that, you know, Tim
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boy show, right with everyone at
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forth. But there was another
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another one, which is the the
culture war show. Now check this

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out. It turns out that he was
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a week. They're about two hours,
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hour basic, you know, just
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wondered, like, he's always
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he's got that, you know, swanky
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lot going on, and he's got just,
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now, like, okay, so he was
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for producing one episode a
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they had licensed, so he wasn't
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like he was talking to the
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show. It was licensed to tenant
media. And so this has put Tim

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pool, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin,
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I'd say, I'll read his
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pool statement, my statement
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indictment. Should these
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well as the other personalities
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and we are victims. I cannot
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company as to what they do or
what they are instructed. The

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culture war podcast was licensed
by tenant now, by the way, this

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was not mentioned anywhere in
the indictment. I read I read

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the indictment. Yeah, I read it
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was licensed by tenant media. It
existed well before any license

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agreement with Tenet, and it
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such agreement expires. The only
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the agreement was the location
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tenants YouTube channel. I and
TCW never produce any content

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for tenant media. Now I'm
thinking that tenant media

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probably also you get these
emails suggested guests. Hey,

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you should have this guy on as a
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agenda. This would be a great
guest for no agenda. You have

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never listened, you dope.
Because we don't have guests.

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Never at any point did anyone
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control the show, and the
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apolitical. Examples include
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and video games. The show is
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our local team, blah blah That
being said, we still do not know

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what is true, as these are only
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Russia sucks donkey balls. And
to the

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John C Dvorak: that doesn't
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Adam Curry: she protested too
much. Me thinketh, and to the

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journalists who wish to jump the
gun create their own narrative

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or lie about what is currently
going on. You can eat my Irish

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ass. Okay? So then Benny
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John C Dvorak: actually in this
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Adam Curry: And then Benny
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DOJ indictment today, a year
ago, a media startup pitched my

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company to provide content as an
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lawyers negotiated a standard,
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later terminated. We are
disturbed by the allegations in

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today's indictment, which makes
clear that myself and other

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influences were victims in this
alleged scheme. So there's the

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victim meme. My lawyers will
handle anyone who states or

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suggests otherwise. Oh boy, and
then Dave Rubin, who doesn't

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John C Dvorak: on Ruben was
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Adam Curry: I'm just I don't
know statement on the DOJ

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indictment, these allegations
clearly show that I and other

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commentators were the victims of
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John C Dvorak: Seems to be the
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Adam Curry: I knew absolutely
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fraudulent activity, period.
People of the internet was a

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silly show. So nowhere did I see
this mentioned. But he knows

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what it's about. They know what
that what is going on here.

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videos, which ended four months
ago. The DOJ has never contacted

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me regarding this matter, and I
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come to comment further. This
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indictment, speaks for itself.
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flowing around, and you know, so
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people are saying, Hey, you're
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episode podcast. Didn't you
think something might have been

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up with that. And then people
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pool shows, and this is a 45
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Oh yeah, you traitor. You took
Russian money. But I don't know

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Unknown: that it matters
anymore. This is psychotic.

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Ukraine is the enemy of this
country. Ukraine is our enemy

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being funded by the Democrats. I
will stress again, one of the

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greatest enemies of our nation
right now is Ukraine. They are

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expanding this war now. Don't
get me wrong. I know you've got

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criminal elements of the US
government, pushing them and

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guiding them and telling them
what to do. Ukraine is now

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accused a German warrant issued
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pipeline in triggering this
conflict. Ukraine is the

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greatest threat to this nation
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rescind all funding and
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support, and we should apologize
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Adam Curry: So. Little different
than his. You know, can suck

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donkey balls. Quote, so. So I
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the just Department of Justice,
which obviously all Democrats,

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Biden Obama operatives, they're,
they're doing some kind of mega

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sweep here where, first of all,
we bring back in Russia's trying

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to get Trump elected. And then
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been positive about Trump or or
positive about Russia and and

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implicating them where they're
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licensing content. It seems, I
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necessarily knowledgeable about
what happened, but this

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suspicious. Yeah, it's kind of
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it's a good op that they've
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John C Dvorak: I think that the
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military industrial complex,
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against Trump, yes. So when
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we they're not absolutely sure
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set up. So everything now that
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Ukraine. You're part of this op,
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just pull a you know, who is it?
Kennedy or, or I get? No, I

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guess it's Tulsa. You know, they
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Ukraine, just right. Drop of a
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because he now he's screwed.
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aimed at Trump, and what he has
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immediately. Ah, by going over
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only thing you can do. Can't
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Adam Curry: So, yeah, it's, it's
a mill. That's the first thing I

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thought, is, like he got Kirby
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PBS. You want to hear some of
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PBS gets involved, oh, now it's,
this is ten million what is ten

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million in the in the realm of
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some huge amount that I'm
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pool boy and Benny boy and Dave
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to it and were just thinking,
I'm that good.

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John C Dvorak: That's exactly
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Adam Curry: by the way, we would
be like, yeah, we're that good.

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We deserve this kind of money to
license our content. You know,

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Spotify license Joe Rogan's
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where you get I don't want to
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but they, they certainly got
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here's PBS on this story. Now

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Unknown: to the day's other top
story, foreign efforts to

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interfere with the US
presidential election in a press

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conference this afternoon us,
Attorney General Merrick Garland

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outlined what he called
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campaigns undertaken by Russia
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sophisticated

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Adam Curry: 2000 YouTube videos
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media influencers. And garland
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The Justice Department's message
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for attempts by authoritarian
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demographic our democratic
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Adam Curry: government, because
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Unknown: We will be relentlessly
aggressive, encountering and

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disrupting attempts by Russia
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foreign malign actor to
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undermine our democracy. Oh,

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Adam Curry: our democracy is
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Look at the M 5m bro. Anyway,

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John C Dvorak: the thing about
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makes me think this was a
preemptive strike, and it all

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has to do with Ukraine. It's got
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Ukraine. I complain, that's
right. And to balance that, that

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argument, they brought in Iran
as the foil to say, well, Iran

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was interfering with Trump,
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They're going to do this and
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balance. So it was like it
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Trump in or trying to get Kamala
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mess with the election, kind of
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got nothing to do with the
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with Ukraine. Yes, it's very
well done. I think so now

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Adam Curry: they bring and of
course, because if you listen

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to, I mean, listen to our show,
we know what went down in

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Ukraine. We know how it
happened. Everyone knows the

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backstory. We've been following
that since 2014 and. We know you

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cookies, my Don, we saw it all
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John C Dvorak: Brennan was
there. Cookies was there. The

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enemy CIA is there. And I think
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Adam Curry: is bringing in
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because he is the military
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and he will explain how this
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John C Dvorak: I might add, with
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knows that. He knows, he knows
if he's really good at he's not

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as good an actor as he should
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Adam Curry: No but he's all they
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say he does the job, but gets
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immediately doing this big
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not typical for some phony
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they didn't like, which they
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John C Dvorak: did much about
the Macedonian kids who did a

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Unknown: All right, here's Kirby
Joining us now from the White

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House. Is National Security
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Admiral John Kirby. Admiral
Kirby, welcome back. Thanks for

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joining us. Thank you so much
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think it's safe to say her a
long way Oh, she

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Adam Curry: Oh, she's she's
already laugh telling Oh, safe

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to say, oh no, oh my goodness.

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Unknown: So these efforts, I
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long way from Russian
intelligence packing and dumping

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emails like they did with the
DNC back in 2016

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Adam Curry: Yeah, right, you
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election lady. Just before

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Unknown: we dig into some of the
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briefly, what does all of this
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election interference has
evolved over the years? They've

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gotten more sophisticated.
They've gotten more organized.

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John C Dvorak: were more
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Unknown: It's organized. They've

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Adam Curry: got pool boy, yeah,
it's sophisticated and

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organized. More

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Unknown: sophisticated, they've
gotten more organized. And quite

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frankly, they've gotten more
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John C Dvorak: stop a second. I
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gonna be interrupted a lot.
That's all right. That's all

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John C Dvorak: When you say,
quite frankly, are you lying the

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rest of the time? Well, of
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Adam Curry: yes,

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Adam Curry: I'm not lying
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honestly. I'd like to say, yeah,

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Unknown: all of these more
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they've gotten more, more
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of the Kremlin, we believe Mr.
Putin, what's 10 million?

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John C Dvorak: What's he
comparing that funding to the

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$100,000 they spent on Facebook
ads back in 2020 2016 was, it

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good? Was a scandal? Or

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Adam Curry: the 400 million
Zuckerberg pumped into

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everything? Yeah, exactly.

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John C Dvorak: Compare that to
400 million Zuckerberg pumped

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into Wisconsin alone getting of

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Unknown: this scheme, or these
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more than one, but they've
gotten a lot more clever. And

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unfortunately for them, we've
gotten pretty clever too. We got

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pretty strong. Well, we were
able to detect and monitor these

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threats, and as you said today,
take action to hold them

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accountable. Oh

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Adam Curry: yeah, we were able
to detect these threats. It's a

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John C Dvorak: Oh no, the phony
story. It's a website. We were

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good able to detect this threat

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Adam Curry: and notice how they
say Washington Post and Fox

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News, let's get both sides of
the spectrum. Again.

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John C Dvorak: That brings us
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we have the balance over. So
it's not really about the

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elections. Is about Ukraine and
the money we're spending. So

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Unknown: one of these schemes,
as you put it, let's kind of

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break it down here. The
Department of Justice has

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charged two employees of a
Russian state controlled media

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outlet RT saying that they
poured ten million into, poured

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an effort to distribute, poured

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Adam Curry: all its 10 million
at all. Man, they poured it in

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to influencers. They didn't call
them podcasters. They're calling

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them influencers. They

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Unknown: poured in dollars into
an effort to distribute content

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with hidden Russian government
messaging.

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Adam Curry: What hidden
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John C Dvorak: How hidden is it?
Ukraine's

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Adam Curry: no good. That's
hidden messaging. Oh, it's

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subliminal. It's the subliminal
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Unknown: of messaging, old,
yeah, are we talking about and

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where might people have seen
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blaming Ukraine and the United
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that happened in Moscow several
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John C Dvorak: this I just, I
almost had this clip that he

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they've been harping on this
particular this. And one other

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example is Kirby's main thing,
which was this switcheroo about

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this attack in Russia that's

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Unknown: we all know was
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acknowledged that they conducted
that attack on that concert hall

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we all know.

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Adam Curry: We all know ISIS
tweeted it, man, they put a

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statement on x

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Unknown: so that. Is one
example. Another example was

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continuing to put out
information to undermine

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Ukraine's fight for its own
democracy and for its

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sovereignty. So it's messaging
and just another

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Adam Curry: laugh tell, by the
way,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, good point.
Ukraine's

451
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Unknown: fight for its own
democracy. Very laughing because

452
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John C Dvorak: he's joking,
because he knows no democracy.

453
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This guy's cancel elections,
shut down, the press out of

454
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control. What this guy's doing
for its own

455
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Unknown: democracy and for his
sovereignty. So it's messaging

456
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and disinformation. It's
propaganda that that tries to

457
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undermine public support for
what Ukraine is trying to do to

458
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defend itself and a range of
other things Russia wants to do

459
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to sort of portray the United
States as some sort of evil

460
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actor in the world. So there's a
series of initiatives that

461
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they're undertaking, again, to
undermine faith and confidence

462
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in democracy. Writ large,
certainly undermine faith and

463
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confidence in America's
democracy.

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Adam Curry: America's demand.
We're going to be talking a lot

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about America's democracy today.
So now we go to the other

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schemes. Let's go to those,
those, those sneaky websites.

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One of

468
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Unknown: the other schemes laid
out was related to the

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Department of Justice seizing 32
internet domains that they say

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were used to spread Russian
propaganda with the aim of

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influencing voters in the US and
foreign elections, including the

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US 2024, presidential election,
I just want to show for viewers

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here, the websites were designed
to look like us, information and

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news sites like these that
you're seeing right now that

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look exactly like Washington
Post articles, but they are not.

476
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Can these kinds of sites be
taken down faster than they can

477
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keep going up? Is it safe to
assume this information still

478
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out there?

479
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,880
Well, we're certainly going to
keep having conversations with

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tech companies about about
making sure they're aware of

481
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these threats. And

482
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Adam Curry: what tech companies
what? What are they going to

483
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talking to godaddy for domain
names? Or does it when he said

484
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we'll be talking to is this
another one of those? Don't

485
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,400
worry about Section 230 we won't
take it away from you

486
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conversations. I don't like
this.

487
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John C Dvorak: We'll be talking
to tech companies.

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Adam Curry: Let's listen. What
else you

489
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Unknown: have to say here,
because with tech companies

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about about making sure they're
aware of these threats and these

491
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these actors out there, we have
actors, you know, rely on them

492
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to take the decisions that that
they deem are appropriate to

493
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their own policies and
procedures. But we're certainly

494
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going to keep having that
conversation with tech

495
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companies. But I think what
you're seeing here, and I'm glad

496
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you mentioned that the social
design agency and what they've

497
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been doing, as well as

498
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Adam Curry: that social design
agency that's tenant media.

499
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They're talking about with the
fearless voices who live here.

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You

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Unknown: know, on one hand,
you've got them using RT, a

502
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former propaganda outlet now
just a full on covert influence

503
00:27:54,820 --> 00:27:56,740
organization. RT,

504
00:27:56,740 --> 00:28:00,160
Adam Curry: covert. How is RT
covert?

505
00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:03,840
John C Dvorak: It's not covert.
It's always over.

506
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:07,920
Unknown: It's over just a full
on covert influence organization

507
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,700
to work through funding
companies, even a company here

508
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in the United States, to get
them to push information out in

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the vein of a legitimate media
outlet, and they also working at

510
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,740
a tactical level with social
media influencers. Many of them,

511
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as the attorney general laid
out, are simply made up their

512
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fictional persona, but they're
going at it from a media outlet

513
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,540
perspective, and they're going
at it from an individual social

514
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:39,140
media user perspective, wow.

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Adam Curry: I mean, first of
all, I don't see what the

516
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Justice Department the I mean,
you can pull if you can police

517
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:51,460
anything you want, if this is
okay, like, Oh no, the onion. Oh

518
00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:54,880
the onion. Making jokes. No, we
gotta seize their domain name.

519
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,060
Good

520
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:57,100
John C Dvorak: point. Seize
their domain Well, let's go.

521
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,300
Babylon B, the onions,

522
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Adam Curry: right? Babylon B,
well, exactly right. You know

523
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,220
what I'm talking about. All
right. Let's go with the Oh yes.

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00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:06,660
What is the preferred outcome?
Yes. But

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Unknown: when it comes to
influencing, especially the

526
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,880
2024, presidential election,
Attorney General garland said

527
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that they're they're seeking a
preferred outcome. Here

528
00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:19,260
Adam Curry: it includes not
Trump. That's the preferred

529
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outcome.

530
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Unknown: What is that preferred
outcome? What do you see this

531
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Russian propaganda working
towards

532
00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:27,680
Adam Curry: boy leading the
witness? They

533
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,120
Unknown: are working towards
undermining us, policies the

534
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,680
kinds of us that this
administration has been laboring

535
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,180
so hard to pursue around the
world, shoring up alliances and

536
00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:43,000
partnerships in the Indo
Pacific, supporting Ukraine,

537
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,560
obviously, is that to say

538
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,080
that they're working to
undermine the Democratic

539
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,760
candidate, in this case, Kamala
Harris.

540
00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:52,900
I don't have specific evidence
that I can speak to about

541
00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:56,680
undermining a particular
candidate, but we have seen in

542
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,920
the past where Mr. Putin
certainly has shown up.

543
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Proclivity for one particular
candidate. But again, I don't

544
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,280
want to get where we are right
now. Where we are right now is

545
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,280
we know that they are using
these tools, these vehicles,

546
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:18,300
this funding, discord and try to
try to increase here in the

547
00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:19,140
United States,

548
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Adam Curry: he is falling apart.
Witness this next shorter clip.

549
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Unknown: Wouldn't it help people
though to spot some of this

550
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,160
disinformation if they knew if
it tends to lean one way or the

551
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other?

552
00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:31,580
Well, look, that's what we did
today.

553
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,120
John C Dvorak: What ask Alexa.

554
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:38,960
Unknown: That's what we did
today.

555
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,520
Adam Curry: Ask Alexa. Alexa, is
this misinformation? Look,

556
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that's

557
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,920
Unknown: one of the things that
we did today, why the Attorney

558
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General went public. That's why
we here at the White House laid

559
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,100
it out. The State Department,
the Treasury. I mean, part of

560
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,940
the aim of educating the
American people is to disclose

561
00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:58,060
what we're seeing out there and
the kinds of content that

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they're putting out there. And
as I said in my opening

563
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:04,500
statement today in the briefing
room, we can't just be the

564
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:09,540
government doing this. We need
the help of American citizens to

565
00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:13,920
bear a hand here and to
carefully and scrupulously take

566
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,580
a look at what you're digesting,
the news, information that

567
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:20,780
you're getting online or
elsewhere, to try to make sure

568
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:24,140
that you're getting the absolute
best, credible, most accurate

569
00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:25,100
information you can

570
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,160
Adam Curry: get, it from the
good sources, not those crazy

571
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alt media guys, no poll boy,
Tucker, none of them are good.

572
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Let's wrap it up. It

573
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Unknown: is also worth pointing
out, people start voting in this

574
00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:40,480
election very soon, within days,
and the last day of voting,

575
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,540
election day is just over 60
days away. A lot of this content

576
00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:45,940
has already been out there for a
while, has had millions of

577
00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:49,180
views. Are these steps and
actions coming too late to have

578
00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:50,740
an impact? Too late? Well, we

579
00:31:50,740 --> 00:31:53,860
certainly hope not. I mean, I
would just tell you that the

580
00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:57,940
timing today was driven by the
scope of the investigation that

581
00:31:58,660 --> 00:32:01,440
the Attorney General talked
about, and he made it clear,

582
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,900
it's an ongoing investigation.
So there may be additional

583
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:06,840
actions here coming, I don't
know, but it was driven really

584
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,960
by the status of the
investigation. That was what was

585
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,200
really on our minds. And as soon
as we could package all that

586
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,020
information up and get it out
into the public domain, we

587
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:16,860
wanted to do that.

588
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is
completely about Ukraine, and it

589
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,880
is no coincidence of the timing.
It's nothing about all the

590
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,480
timing was just we were ready.
We had all the evidence. No the

591
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,420
timing is the forthcoming visit
by Zelensky with his victory

592
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,080
plan.

593
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Unknown: President Zelensky sat
down with NBC News in his first

594
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,620
interview since that surprise
move,

595
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,380
Adam Curry: by the way, Richard
Engel here doing the reporting.

596
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,160
Now you've

597
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Unknown: captured this territory
in Russia. So the big question

598
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,480
is,

599
00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:51,340
what do you plan to do with it?

600
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We don't need the Russian
territory.

601
00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:58,540
Our operation is aimed to
restore our territorial

602
00:32:58,540 --> 00:32:59,080
integrity.

603
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,540
We don't need their land. Is

604
00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:03,300
the plan to take more territory?
I

605
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:07,440
will not tell you, sorry I can't
speak about it. It's like the

606
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,820
beginning of our discourse
operation. I didn't communicate

607
00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:16,620
anything clearly. With all
respect, I can't speak about it.

608
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:22,400
I think that the success is very
close to surprise. But

609
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,300
conceptually,

610
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:26,420
you have this territory. Now you
say you don't want to keep it

611
00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:27,260
long conceptually,

612
00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:30,620
we will hold it conceptually. We
will hold it well, there's been

613
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,380
Adam Curry: what is this
conceptually? We'll hold this

614
00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:37,640
land. What was in your mind
talking about, they're

615
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,180
John C Dvorak: both going on and
on about conceptually? Yeah,

616
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:40,360
what

617
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,220
Adam Curry: does that mean? It
doesn't mean it. It's

618
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:45,340
John C Dvorak: bull. See,
conceptually, we're going to do

619
00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:46,480
a podcast today.

620
00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:48,640
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right, but
I'm staying in bed for this

621
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,940
conceptual podcast. Yeah,
exactly. Conceptually. We

622
00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:54,220
Unknown: will hold it.
Conceptually. We will hold it.

623
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:56,560
Well, there's been another
government shake up here in

624
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Ukraine. This time, the foreign
minister tendering his

625
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,180
resignation, and Craig, it's all
related. I spoke to President

626
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:05,820
zelenskyy said what he's
preparing right now is to

627
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:10,320
present what he describes as his
victory plan to President Biden,

628
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,200
to Vice President Harris, and to
Donald Trump in the United

629
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,640
States later this month. And he
wants to arrive with some

630
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,580
military success after the
ongoing military campaign inside

631
00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:26,360
Russia and with a new,
revitalized government. So he

632
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,540
wants to go in with a full head
of steam as he goes to to

633
00:34:29,540 --> 00:34:31,760
Washington, it goes to the
United States later this

634
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,340
John C Dvorak: month. Yeah, it's
a new hand picked government.

635
00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:34,820
Yeah.

636
00:34:35,060 --> 00:34:38,600
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
if, if rats are jumping the ship

637
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,020
or exact I mean, it seems like a
whole bunch of people said,

638
00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:45,820
Okay, I'm out. I don't want any
part of this. But the victory

639
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:46,900
plan is coming.

640
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:53,500
John C Dvorak: The victory plan
so these guys are scammers,

641
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,100
yeah, well,

642
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,580
Adam Curry: concluding of the
highest order. I feel bad for

643
00:34:57,580 --> 00:35:06,660
these, for these podcasters. But
on the other hand, Dude, did you

644
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:08,220
not think this was odd?

645
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:13,980
John C Dvorak: No, I think your
original um analysis absolutely

646
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:14,760
on the money, I'm

647
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,240
Adam Curry: that good,

648
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,440
John C Dvorak: I'm great,

649
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,520
Unknown: I'm that good,

650
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:22,340
John C Dvorak: I am fabulous,
and I whatever they throw out, I

651
00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:29,060
expected this surprise. It took
that long that damn Joe Rogan's

652
00:35:29,060 --> 00:35:30,200
making all the money. That's

653
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:36,800
Adam Curry: right, that's right.
Well, yeah, anyway, oh man, I

654
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,440
just, I just, it was like, Wow.
This all fell into my lap. Like,

655
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,300
this is, this is crazy.

656
00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:46,360
John C Dvorak: So did you miss
the Alexa stuff? No,

657
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,140
Adam Curry: I did. Yeah, I don't
know about the Alexa stuff. Oh,

658
00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:50,320
I

659
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,240
John C Dvorak: would. I was
gonna get a clip, but I figured

660
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,300
you'd either have the clip or
knew about it. Or no, you

661
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,600
probably did look it up real
quick, quick someone. This was

662
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,700
about four days ago. I'm
surprised you didn't catch

663
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,760
Adam Curry: it. Oh, yeah, but
she's saying, Alexa, give me

664
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,820
who's going to win the
elections. Is that the tell

665
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:07,920
John C Dvorak: me why I should
vote for Donald Trump. And Alexa

666
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,460
says, We can't tell you anything
like that. This is a this is

667
00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:14,580
politics. No, no, no, no, no.
You can't ask a question like

668
00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:18,240
that. She says, Hey, tell me why
I should vote for Kamala Harris.

669
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,640
Kamala Harris is great. She's in
all these terrific things. She's

670
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,340
a perfect candidate. She should,
you should vote for her?

671
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,540
Adam Curry: Yeah, you know, I'm,
honestly, I did see the clip.

672
00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:34,340
I'm so jaded by that stuff. It's
like, it's like, that's standard

673
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:37,940
operating procedure these days,
we know, but you Mimi sent,

674
00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:40,960
John C Dvorak: sent a copy to
me, and she says, late, you

675
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,860
know, it was just last night,
and she says, Can you believe

676
00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:48,820
this? What you're behind on?
Really, days ago? Really,

677
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,300
Unknown: yeah, she's

678
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:51,160
John C Dvorak: all worked up
about it, so I figure, well,

679
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,100
maybe some, you know, somebody
we should have, probably, I

680
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:57,040
should have, probably clipped
it, but that's my but I ever I'm

681
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,320
doubting that. I think 90% of
our audience has heard this over

682
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,100
and over. Yeah, yeah, done it
every if you watch anybody watch

683
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:09,540
this fox, every single Fox show
has played this

684
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,380
Adam Curry: Well, that would be
the main reason I didn't clip

685
00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:13,500
it.

686
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:17,220
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
that's the main reason clip it.

687
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:19,200
You just didn't clip it. I
didn't clip it either. No,

688
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,860
Adam Curry: but it's just like
all this. It's out. The auto

689
00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:23,840
completes on Google Search come,
but

690
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,000
John C Dvorak: this is, this is
nothing new. It's all part of

691
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,960
the same bull crap.

692
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:29,600
Adam Curry: It's nothing new.
And you know that you're getting

693
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,900
different results than I'm
getting based upon your location

694
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:39,020
or anything. Go, yeah, I use,
well, what's that thing I use?

695
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:43,420
John C Dvorak: I think Duck Duck
go, does you know, I go to

696
00:37:43,420 --> 00:37:49,000
Google once for one purpose and
one purpose only, maps, yeah,

697
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,880
I'll put an address and I'll do
it through Google, because the

698
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,300
best mapping stuff that you like
around you can get directions

699
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,300
is, is great you like for
everything else, I use Duck Duck

700
00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,800
go. Duck Duck go does a better
job of showing images, which I

701
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,580
use for the newsletter
occasionally, and it organizes

702
00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:08,520
them better it. I just think the
results are better with that

703
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,880
product. They don't track you,
but I don't believe.

704
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Adam Curry: No, they try. I use
cog, E, K, A, G, I

705
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:19,800
John C Dvorak: and I pay for it.
Yeah, yeah, you do. And

706
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,720
Adam Curry: it's, I would say,
for 98% of all my searches, cog

707
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,600
E is good, some of the
historical stuff, like really

708
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,160
old stuff, they may not have. So
let's just talk about American

709
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,620
democracy for a moment. And I
put together this series of

710
00:38:36,620 --> 00:38:40,160
clips because I here's an
example of some of the emails

711
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:46,780
I've received. Please don't let
your disfavor or hatred of Elon

712
00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:48,040
get the best of you.

713
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:51,640
John C Dvorak: This that's just
Adam, by the way, I think Elon's

714
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,180
Great.

715
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:55,540
Adam Curry: This judge is an
absolute tyrant who tells people

716
00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:58,900
to censor people he just doesn't
like and tells them it's illegal

717
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:02,340
for them to say the order came
from him. It really feels like

718
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:05,640
you just don't like Elon so
badly that you're ignoring a

719
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,260
huge story and mock must for
saying he's standing up for free

720
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:16,140
speech, as if everything he does
has to be disingenuous. So first

721
00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:16,620
of all

722
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,080
John C Dvorak: is that the same
tone of voice that get probably

723
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,820
sounds like a guy would say
that, you

724
00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:25,280
Adam Curry: know, those guys?
Yeah, so. But I get a lot of

725
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,220
these, and I just, and here's my
my turn. No, why

726
00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:30,800
John C Dvorak: they you know, I
don't have the issue with Musk

727
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,460
at all. But at the same time, I
don't see why everyone's

728
00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:37,520
defending into such an extreme
as if the guy can't defend

729
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,200
himself. Or is it? Well, it just
doesn't make sense to me that

730
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,680
people were all well, also crazy
about this.

731
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,760
Adam Curry: Also, there's two of
us. There's Adam and John. And

732
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,240
aren't you happy that someone is
looking over his shoulder? Just

733
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,380
in case, that's what I've been
trained to do throughout almost

734
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:59,920
17 years, when everyone's all
goo goo, Gaga. I'm not gonna.

735
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,780
Same thing.

736
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm with
you. I'm looking at your

737
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,640
religious, religious,
religiosity.

738
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:12,660
Adam Curry: I have no
religiosity. Okay, I all right,

739
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:15,720
what? I don't know. I don't know
what that statement was about.

740
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:16,200
Well,

741
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,300
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
it's not as though that you're

742
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,740
looking, you know, making sure I
don't foul up. And I'm always

743
00:40:21,740 --> 00:40:23,360
looking at your

744
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:28,100
Adam Curry: foibles, of course.
But this is not about you. This

745
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:35,360
is about Elon. So I just want to
the here's the reason is why i i

746
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,500
saw that he brought in electric
vehicles and kicked off an

747
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:41,680
entire climate change based

748
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,260
John C Dvorak: narrative three.
Now this part of that about the

749
00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:47,740
complaint I'm all in on and
because it did cause a

750
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:52,000
Adam Curry: problem. And he's
all in on climate tax, or carbon

751
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,960
tax and carbon credits. In fact,
he lives off of it. He is one.

752
00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:59,020
He is one of the biggest
exploitative Is he a word?

753
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:02,640
You're looking for one of the
biggest military contractors for

754
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,080
lots of spooky stuff, including
the National Reconnaissance

755
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Office and Space Force and, you
know, but we're all like, Oh,

756
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,840
he's so great. He's Tony Stark's
he's Oh, he's the best. Well,

757
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,800
that's a bit and I have, well,
that's out there. I mean, just

758
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,340
look at the pictures of him in
that, you know, that red

759
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:25,460
Halloween suit. And he's always
like, Oh, he looks so dapper

760
00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:29,480
with his hair plugs, so and I
don't, I mean, I've met the guy.

761
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,920
I was there at the launch of
Tesla, which he didn't invent.

762
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,940
He bought it. You know, he
supposedly spends 80% of his

763
00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:42,040
time doing engineering. Seems
like he spends 80% of his time

764
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,840
on X shit posting nowadays,
yeah, for sure. So you know. And

765
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,340
you can see the woman who really
runs SpaceX. She's a former, I

766
00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:55,900
think, NRO lady. I mean, you
know, he's got people in all

767
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:59,440
these different places doing the
work. He's flying around. He's

768
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
doing whatever he needs to do,
which is fine, but

769
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,380
John C Dvorak: when the one
thing he does, which is not easy

770
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:08,700
to do, in my opinion, it's the
hardest thing to do, is he hires

771
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:13,440
the right people to do this job.
That makes it look like he's

772
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,220
doing it. Yeah, well,

773
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:16,380
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm a little
more skeptical about who's

774
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:18,900
running, who's hiring, but
doesn't, doesn't really matter.

775
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:24,260
Um, but when, when everyone's
all jacked up about Yeah? Free

776
00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:26,960
speech, yeah, it's great. X is
great. That's what I'm like.

777
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,180
Yeah. It's always great when
someone's on your team, but it's

778
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:35,240
the same with de platforming.
It's always great when someone

779
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,120
else gets the platform, who you
don't like, who you disagree

780
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,980
with, but these tools can be
turned around on a dime and be

781
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,360
focused at you

782
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,940
John C Dvorak: one in fact,
Twitter proves that

783
00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:49,480
Adam Curry: so this, well, yes,
in fact, I got another note from

784
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,200
a guy I'll read

785
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,120
John C Dvorak: this, turned
around on a dime, and now it's

786
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,100
going out the other direction.
This is

787
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:56,020
Adam Curry: from coconut Pete.
I've been on Twitter since the

788
00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:58,840
beginning in 2007 I've
experimented with different

789
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,260
accounts for various projects,
sometimes just playing around

790
00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:04,380
with random accounts. From my
experience using Twitter under

791
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:07,560
Jack and Elon, I think I can say
with certainty that the free

792
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,120
speech in quotes under Elon is
definitely worse. Under Jack,

793
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520
there are always lots of crazy
tweets flying around, perhaps

794
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040
the worst case scenario, what
might get shadow banned, but at

795
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,740
least you could keep your
account and vent to yourself

796
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:22,700
thinking you are changing the
world. Most people think that

797
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:25,340
Elon is the Savior free speech,
and he loves to brand himself

798
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:28,340
this way, but they don't see the
many other layers of censorship

799
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:32,360
right in front of their face,
such as unpaid peasant accounts

800
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,200
get little to no visibility. I
agree, paid accounts get more

801
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,440
visibility. Ex Premium accounts
get more exposure. Remember the

802
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,160
whole mantra was freedom of
speech, not of reach. Then, if

803
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,980
you're a well known celebrity or
public figure that has the max

804
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:50,800
account on X, you probably have
more free speech and leeway than

805
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,160
anyone else. He goes on to say,
one of my accounts, I just got

806
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,620
suspended, I believe, for
applying to someone saying they

807
00:43:56,620 --> 00:44:00,960
were an idiot. If you do get
suspended, if you do get

808
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,860
suspended, there's no
explanation why. So you know

809
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:10,620
there's and I believe this to be
true. So anyway, we're back to

810
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:14,520
democracy and free speech in
America. And this brings me to x

811
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,420
and Brazil, which I have some
thoughts on. And we'll start

812
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:22,640
with a backgrounder from Fox
live, who bring us up to speed

813
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,360
on where we are with x being
banned in Brazil, the social

814
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,940
media platform, by the way,
these guys have some click in

815
00:44:28,940 --> 00:44:32,300
their audio, which is not me,
but it's in there. The social

816
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:34,580
Unknown: media platform,
formerly known as Twitter,

817
00:44:34,580 --> 00:44:38,480
remains offline in one of South
America's largest countries.

818
00:44:38,660 --> 00:44:42,340
Brazil's Supreme Court
unanimously upheld a ban of the

819
00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:46,840
site x by its top judge on
Monday, the ruling blocks access

820
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,520
station wide for some 40 million
users in mandates, ex founder

821
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,720
Elon Musk pay more than $3
million in fines and nominate a

822
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:58,780
legal representative within the
country. I

823
00:44:58,780 --> 00:45:01,320
don't know how far we can go.
I'm going to say strange how far

824
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,900
we're getting in terms of
information and the limitations

825
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:06,240
they're trying to put on the
population. The

826
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:10,200
court's top judge, Alexander de
Maria suspended X last week,

827
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,340
claiming it allows the spread of
misinformation. He also said a

828
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:18,900
daily fine of nearly $9,000 for
anyone using virtual private

829
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:23,180
networks to access the platform.
Musk said the ruling is

830
00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:26,420
destroying free speech. Adding
the current Brazilian

831
00:45:26,420 --> 00:45:30,140
administration likes to wear the
cloak of a free democracy while

832
00:45:30,140 --> 00:45:34,460
crushing the people under its
boot. Brazil's President issuing

833
00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:35,180
this warning,

834
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,240
having a lot of money does not
allow you to disrespect it. He

835
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:45,040
is not a citizen of the world,
President, Congressman, Senate

836
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:46,300
or the Supreme Court.

837
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,260
In addition to the ban on x, the
court has also frozen satellite

838
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:53,800
internet provider starlinks
financial accounts in Brazil,

839
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,600
which is owned by musk.

840
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:58,600
Adam Curry: Okay, so that's kind
of the backgrounder. And I found

841
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,900
this Brazil professor of
Brazilian studies on France 24

842
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:07,680
who was commenting on it, and it
kind of gave me like, Oh, yeah.

843
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,240
This makes total sense, because
this is about, remember, we have

844
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,960
a First Amendment. We have
freedom of speech. You know, for

845
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,560
some reason, Elon is very
troubled about the freedom of

846
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,060
speech in Brazil, which, of
course, doesn't exist in any

847
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:26,900
other country, to my knowledge,
documented in the Constitution,

848
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,900
but the United States. And
everyone's like, yeah, freedom

849
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,520
of speech, yeah. Freedom

850
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,240
Unknown: of speech is an
American concept. It has no

851
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:39,680
place in European democracy.
It's important, but it's not

852
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,260
central. It's not the first
amendment so, and the same

853
00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:49,900
situation is in Brazil. So this
is clearly the American values

854
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:54,580
being exported worldwide. It's a
problem. It should be taken like

855
00:46:54,580 --> 00:46:59,320
this. It's the United States,
the old way of seeing the United

856
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,640
States, the First Amendment of
the American Constitution being

857
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,600
exported worldwide. And been
like that since the very

858
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,560
beginning of Twitter, since the
Green Revolution in Iran, since

859
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,580
the Arab Spring, the Americans
has been, have been exporting

860
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:18,300
the First Amendment worldwide
using social network. It's still

861
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:23,120
like that, and Musk is doing
exactly the same thing. The

862
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,480
value of the First Amendment is
very different. Now, the

863
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,140
Republicans are still very keen
on preserving the First

864
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:33,380
Amendment, but the Democrats are
not that keen on preserving the

865
00:47:33,380 --> 00:47:36,800
First Amendment. So things are
changing in the United States,

866
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,840
and therefore they're changing
worldwide.

867
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Adam Curry: So when I hear this,
I'm reminded that, yes, Arab

868
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,580
Spring, all of these things set
up by techno experts, Hillary

869
00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:50,080
Clinton's little State
Department outfit there, Elon

870
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Musk, is stirring up trouble and
sentiment in Brazil for so I

871
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,840
believe, for some kind of
people's revolution, and it's

872
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,400
probably working quite well. And
there's a new administration

873
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,940
possibly coming in. He used to
be a Trump hater. I think he was

874
00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:08,820
a Trump hater. He switched on
Elon,

875
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:10,140
Unknown: oh yeah, he

876
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:12,600
Adam Curry: switched on a dime.
And now, boys, he's going to be

877
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,840
in the administration, because
there's something about Brazil

878
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
that we all want to be have a
part of. We'll get to that. But

879
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,480
first, he is that professor for
a short clip, right

880
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,320
Unknown: and now the finances of
a second Musk business, the

881
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,140
SpaceX Starlink, satellite
internet service, has also been

882
00:48:27,140 --> 00:48:30,920
frozen. Could you tell us a bit
about this and what kind of

883
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,720
implications it may have for
Brazil? Well, the Brazilian

884
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:41,200
military rely on Starlink to
communicate, just like

885
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,860
Ukrainian, just like many
military worldwide, they need

886
00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:49,720
stalling to establish
communication. So Matt could

887
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,640
theoretically stop every means
of communication for the army in

888
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,480
Brazil. Nobody knows it is going
to go that far, but he could

889
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,140
play this game.

890
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:02,280
Adam Curry: There's a lot of
leverage Elon Musk has with

891
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,240
this. You don't want your
military to communicate. I can

892
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,900
just turn all of that off. No
problem. So what is the big deal

893
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:14,280
about Brazil? What do we care?
Why would we want regime change?

894
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,740
Why would we want a revolution?
Kevin O'Leary shows up on I

895
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:25,880
think Fox Business, talking
about Brazil. He's the, you

896
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,180
know, he's, was he, Mr.
Wonderful, the super investor

897
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,160
from Shark Tank. But he

898
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,500
John C Dvorak: kind of, he's on
Fox a lot, well,

899
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:36,380
Adam Curry: because he has
business dealings

900
00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:39,620
Unknown: Shark Tank investor,
Kevin O'Leary is here. Kevin,

901
00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:42,760
great to see. Well, we'll talk
about us in just a second. But

902
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,760
Brazil, I used to cover it at
the Wall Street Journal. It's a

903
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,960
modern economy. A lot of us
businesses deal with Brazil, but

904
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,980
its president, a guy named his
nickname is Lula, is a Marxist,

905
00:49:53,980 --> 00:49:56,800
and like most Marxists, one of
the first things he's done is

906
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,920
essentially taken over the
judiciary, including the.

907
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,500
Supreme Court. I just wonder who
what business in their right

908
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:07,260
mind would want to do business
in a country where this sort of

909
00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:08,400
thing happens? Everybody

910
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,220
wants to do business in Brazil
because of growth, the growth

911
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:14,160
ethics there, the population,
demand on goods and services,

912
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,360
whether it's technology or
anything else, is just straight

913
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,900
up, almost double digits. So
there's a lot of interest,

914
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:25,700
including me, this latest
tussle, if you want to call it

915
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:29,840
that, and let me, let me be put
out, you know, let me be

916
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,480
transparent about how I feel
about it. As far as I'm

917
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:38,360
concerned, Elon Musk is a modern
day Bruce Wayne. I mean, he this

918
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,320
guy has been so successful in so
many sectors. So I'm a huge fan.

919
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,880
And what I really love about him
is his executional skills. But

920
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,880
he's also got another trait,
which I find very endearing, and

921
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,500
you may or may not like this.
He's a real poopoo disturber, if

922
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:58,300
you know what I mean. He just
doesn't give a poopoo. And I

923
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:01,680
love that about him. He doesn't
care what country, what

924
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,740
dictator, what leader, what
judiciary. If they don't want

925
00:51:04,740 --> 00:51:08,220
his technology over the Amazon
where they need high speed

926
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:11,760
internet, he's happy to shut it
off. He doesn't care if he

927
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,940
doesn't get free speech, which
is why he bought that, paid 42

928
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,820
million or billion dollars for
Twitter in the beginning.

929
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,400
Really, he owns it. He controls
it. It's private. He can do

930
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,220
whatever he likes. If I were the
Lulu, as they call him, I think

931
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:28,280
about that little bit. You got a
lot of people that like internet

932
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,000
and like social media. Be
careful on the egg shows you

933
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,800
walking on Lulu baby.

934
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,540
Adam Curry: So $44 billion which
didn't come out of his own

935
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:41,920
pocket, it came from banks who
have all kinds of interest,

936
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:47,320
where Saudi but also US banks
who are trying to sell to get

937
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,520
money for 30 cents on the
dollar. And then O'Leary winds

938
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,220
it up, he would just explain
exactly what's going on. Yeah,

939
00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:56,560
Unknown: it's Lou love, but
that's that's all right, but,

940
00:51:56,620 --> 00:52:00,460
but the real question I have for
you, you brought you mentioned

941
00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:03,600
that you're still involved
there, and it does have this

942
00:52:03,660 --> 00:52:08,040
upward trajectory. But how long
can that continue if you have,

943
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,220
if you have a Marxist leader
who's controlling to the

944
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:15,540
judiciary, who, at any whim, can
decide that you're no good and

945
00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:17,940
just take over what you what you
built there?

946
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:21,500
Well, if you look at the history
of those kinds of situations,

947
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:24,740
the outcomes are not good for
the lulas. And thank you for

948
00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:27,740
correcting me, of the world,
because it's what the people

949
00:52:27,740 --> 00:52:31,640
want, and musk knows that, and
people want technology, and they

950
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,640
want to communicate with each
other, and this is one of the

951
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,040
services they like using. I
think this thing will be

952
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,200
resolved, because when you start
shutting down commerce in where

953
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,980
there's so much productivity and
opportunity in the Amazon that

954
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:48,280
hurts the country. And I think
this, and look, as I said

955
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,600
before, I just love the way he
does it. He doesn't give

956
00:52:52,660 --> 00:52:57,880
Adam Curry: No, he doesn't so
I'm just saying beware. He seems

957
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,620
to be acting. Everyone has a
master, and Musk is not

958
00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:09,240
masterless. He's doing stuff for
for for different parties or

959
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:14,760
interests. It's not just, it's
not just for free speech. I just

960
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,540
don't believe it.

961
00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:19,440
John C Dvorak: Well, you're
gonna have to come up with

962
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,540
something a little better than
these vague generalities to I'm

963
00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:29,240
not going to argue that he's not
maybe working for the CIA or who

964
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:32,240
knows who, and this whole thing
may be some sort of a CRA

965
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,360
Adam Curry: Is he already? Is
he's already working for these

966
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,980
agencies? What

967
00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:41,560
John C Dvorak: we heard from
Larry was useless information.

968
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,820
No, it's about, I don't know
what? No, listen, that was worth

969
00:53:45,820 --> 00:53:49,000
a shit there. Said the Poopoo
thing. He has to keep saying it.

970
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,240
It's

971
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,360
Adam Curry: about, he's saying
that people were will revolt.

972
00:53:52,420 --> 00:53:56,860
This is to get rile people up in
Brazil and have a change in

973
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:59,620
regime. They don't want the
Marxist there, because there's

974
00:53:59,620 --> 00:54:02,460
lots of good resources in
Brazil, and there's growth and

975
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:06,060
etc, etc. There's business to be
done. This is the same as

976
00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:09,960
exporting American democracy.
It's exporting American freedom

977
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,100
of speech, which I like, of
course, but it's suspicious to

978
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:14,400
me.

979
00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:18,240
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's Brazilians don't think

980
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,800
like Americans think at all. And
they they'd like Mark, not yet,

981
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:26,540
not yet. Oh, there never will
change. There's a saying about

982
00:54:26,540 --> 00:54:30,080
Brazil, and I've been there
dozens of times. There's a

983
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,140
saying about Brazil, which is,
Brazil's the country of the

984
00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:37,700
future, and always will be,
which is, pretty much summarizes

985
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:43,240
everything going on there. And
they have their mentality is

986
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,180
they've gone through these
cycles of these Marxists, then

987
00:54:46,180 --> 00:54:49,240
go to the radical other guy, the
right winger, than the Marxist

988
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,660
and the right winger back and
forth forever, and they just

989
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:54,640
don't seem to ever get it
together. I don't know what

990
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:01,320
Leary Leary's thinking, or is it
O'Leary O'Leary at all? And this

991
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,640
whole thing with with Musk is,
is probably some other thing

992
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,640
altogether we don't know
anything about, maybe some

993
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,160
something, some scammers, thing
going on that we don't know

994
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,900
about. Who knows. I think who
the guy was good was that

995
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,680
France, 24 character that you
played that clip of that guy who

996
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,020
had some analysis, I thought was
more interesting, which is that

997
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:28,160
we are the only country that has
enshrined in our Constitution

998
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,660
the right to free speech, and
nobody else cares. They're not

999
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:36,860
that jacked up about it, like we
are correct. And I think that's

1000
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:40,420
the one thing we never we just
do not have at the top of our

1001
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:43,780
mind. We don't think like that.
We think, well, everybody wants

1002
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:45,940
free speech, but they don't
necessarily.

1003
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Adam Curry: Well, the government
certainly don't. And the

1004
00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:50,800
Brazilian professor,

1005
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,780
John C Dvorak: sure, the
government here does it either.

1006
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Adam Curry: The Brazilian
Professor guy brought up one

1007
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,840
other thing which kind of stuck
in my brain, like, oh, yeah,

1008
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:04,500
that's right. Another Elon hater
was Glenn Greenwald. Glenn

1009
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:08,820
Greenwald did not like did not
like Elon, but there was this

1010
00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:12,240
whole thing kicked off with
Glenn Greenwald, who, I might

1011
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:15,240
add, is politically active and
lives in Brazil.

1012
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:19,200
Unknown: Well, it all began when
Elon Musk, right after having

1013
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,460
taken control of Twitter.
Released some internal

1014
00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:26,480
communication within Twitter and
gave them to Glenn Griswold, who

1015
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,920
is well known for being behind
the Snowden affair. And those

1016
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,040
communications showed that
during President bolsonaro's

1017
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:40,100
legacy, the legal system in
Brazil censored many, many

1018
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,480
Bolsonaro militants and fan and
was doing some interference,

1019
00:56:46,540 --> 00:56:51,580
clearly, in Brazil's democratic
system. And it ended up by, well

1020
00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:55,540
as of today, censorship of
Twitter in Brazil.

1021
00:56:55,900 --> 00:56:59,680
Adam Curry: So we can't, on one
hand, say, Oh, poor Tim pool, he

1022
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,700
got duped by the Russian money.
Not think that anyone else is in

1023
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:05,520
that that happens to except us.

1024
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, where's our
Russian money? Our Russian

1025
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,860
millions, 100,000

1026
00:57:14,340 --> 00:57:17,220
Adam Curry: per episode. If
that's what I'm less or I'm

1027
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:21,560
waiting for, I'll be all in
Ruski Uber Alice, good to go.

1028
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,640
John C Dvorak: There's a good
one. Ruski Uber Alice, kind of

1029
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,680
mixed metaphor, if there ever
was, I

1030
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:38,300
Adam Curry: don't know where it
came from anyway, so Well, the

1031
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:40,780
John C Dvorak: problem is that
we're too damned objective. I

1032
00:57:40,780 --> 00:57:44,020
Adam Curry: have no hate for
Elon Musk, but I just keep my

1033
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:47,920
eye on it, and I do it for you,
for you people, I'm just keeping

1034
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,680
my eye on it. I just you, just,
you can.

1035
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,500
John C Dvorak: I like the fact
that you're you're adamant,

1036
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:56,500
yeah, I like it. Yeah. You
should give me as a

1037
00:57:56,500 --> 00:58:00,100
counterpoint. I can, yes,
looking for flaws in your logic.

1038
00:58:02,620 --> 00:58:05,280
Adam Curry: I'm very happy. I'm
very happy the Brazilian

1039
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,320
John C Dvorak: thing, there's
more, there's more to it than

1040
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,840
we're getting. There's info,
there's missing information. I'm

1041
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,360
totally convinced of that. I

1042
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,940
Adam Curry: agree. I agree. We
don't, we don't have everything

1043
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:20,040
yet. But for a guy who spent $44
billion of other people's money,

1044
00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:25,640
you know, has completely blown
all advertising away. No one

1045
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,120
wants to advertise there
anymore, you know. And

1046
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,940
everyone's running, oh, Elon's
the best, you know, with, with,

1047
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:32,840
you know,

1048
00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:35,660
John C Dvorak: you know, I had,
I think it was Horowitz who

1049
00:58:35,660 --> 00:58:39,620
brought it up. So, just a
success pool, Twitter's bad. And

1050
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,360
when it just said something
minor. I feel just the opposite.

1051
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,440
As far as I'm concerned, after
Elon took over Twitter, it is

1052
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,800
hilarious, as you always bitch
about I broke too much reposting

1053
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,580
too many things. I think Twitter
is funnier than it's ever been.

1054
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:57,940
It's got more nut balls, even
though a lot of it's derivative,

1055
00:58:57,940 --> 00:59:00,900
because they steal tick tock
clips and put them on Twitter.

1056
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:04,680
Yeah, lot of the best stuff is
tick tock. Yes, still, but I

1057
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,940
think talk is just,

1058
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,340
Adam Curry: just so we know,
I've never said I don't like

1059
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,740
what, what x is. I mean, I think
it's funny too. It's better than

1060
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:16,140
me funny. Yeah, no, I'm they

1061
00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:19,680
John C Dvorak: have a lot of
phony baloney, AI stuff that's

1062
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,620
really, have you seen the one
with the fly on his forehead?

1063
00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:28,640
Adam Curry: Hold on. There's
another thing Elon Musk started

1064
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:33,920
open. Ai started it yes to for
to warn everybody and to keep

1065
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,760
the dangers, the danger of
artificial intelligence in

1066
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,100
check. And now he's got the most
outrageous grok thing running

1067
00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:46,480
which does anything crazy you
want it to. So how does that

1068
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:52,480
work? What is his actual modus
operandi? You know, it's not to

1069
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:58,120
make money on x, because that we
know is not happening unless he

1070
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,140
gets his all of his money.
Offset. Or he's

1071
01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:04,080
John C Dvorak: definitely, he's
definitely posting too much on

1072
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,760
Twitter, yeah, with commentary.
He's either post or reposting

1073
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,400
with commentary. He's always
been the thing, wow, I put,

1074
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,060
he'll put that a lot, yeah, and
look at this. Or, Oh, this is

1075
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:20,160
bad. And seems to spend more
time on Twitter than Trump used

1076
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,660
to, yes, and which makes you
wonder.

1077
01:00:23,780 --> 01:00:26,600
Adam Curry: And I follow and I
follow that. You know, the his

1078
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,520
jet account is,

1079
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,040
John C Dvorak: uh oh, I've never
followed the jet account, yeah,

1080
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:31,640
it's still on

1081
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,800
Adam Curry: Mastodon the guy,
because he got kicked off of

1082
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,340
Twitter for doing that, and the
guy still posts on Mastodon, so

1083
01:00:37,340 --> 01:00:42,580
I follow him there. And Musk is
flying every day. So he's

1084
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:44,080
flying, he's in the air. He's

1085
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,700
John C Dvorak: tweeting when
he's in the sky. Yeah, of

1086
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:48,040
Adam Curry: course, of course.
But you know, so is he really

1087
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,300
running companies?

1088
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,200
John C Dvorak: I'm wondering
about that, which, again, brings

1089
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,420
you back to my original point,
which is, I think he knows how

1090
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:58,180
to hire people well, and he
seems so good at it.

1091
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,200
Adam Curry: Or he's been put
installed to run Kleiner

1092
01:01:02,580 --> 01:01:05,820
John C Dvorak: party. Have he's
just, he's a front man, yes, for

1093
01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:07,500
the intel community.

1094
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:13,020
Adam Curry: Probably, I mean,
when I saw him with rulov Bota,

1095
01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:17,340
who is now the CEO of Sequoia
Capital, he was his handler,

1096
01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:22,340
clearly, during the Tesla
launch. You know, the guys at

1097
01:01:22,340 --> 01:01:28,700
PayPal kicked him out. They
hated him. So, you know, look,

1098
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:31,460
John C Dvorak: I don't see him
hanging around with Peter Thiel

1099
01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:33,200
or any of the guys, no, because
they

1100
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,960
Adam Curry: hate him. They
thought he was kooky, didn't

1101
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,540
like him, didn't like what he
was doing, thought he was not a

1102
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,320
minor player. I mean, there's
lots of, lots of evidence they

1103
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,120
don't the PayPal Mafia doesn't
like him, so, you know, like

1104
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,380
each other, possibly so. But I
have no hatred towards Elon. I

1105
01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:57,220
think it's phenomenally funny,
but I am definitely keeping my

1106
01:01:57,220 --> 01:02:05,220
eyes open for humanity. Yeah,
not me. You're just retweeting,

1107
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:11,340
like, look at this nut ball. You
are all in on it. You love it.

1108
01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:13,200
John C Dvorak: It's great.

1109
01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:16,200
Adam Curry: I know, I know you
think it's great, but you know,

1110
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,660
you know some of us care about
the world.

1111
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,100
John C Dvorak: Well, at some
point you get over that, yeah.

1112
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:25,400
Well, I'm

1113
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,120
Adam Curry: not there yet.

1114
01:02:26,420 --> 01:02:28,520
Unknown: You're getting there.
You get no, no, no, I

1115
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,860
Adam Curry: have at least
another 10 years before I become

1116
01:02:30,860 --> 01:02:32,240
like that. No. And

1117
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,340
John C Dvorak: let's do, uh,
let's do the three by three and

1118
01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:35,000
talk about this

1119
01:02:35,060 --> 01:02:37,580
Adam Curry: all right. Now it's
time for three by three. Yeah,

1120
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:43,660
baby experiment by JC D
comparing stories from ABC, CBS

1121
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:50,320
and NBC, the never endings. So
the jonesboy syndicator back in

1122
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:51,820
action for you, huh? They

1123
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:55,960
John C Dvorak: or Steve? Yeah,
it fits here because I had a

1124
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,540
series of three clips on China
spies. Ah, yes, okay, first, so

1125
01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:03,120
I wanted to play the three by
three to see what the network

1126
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,300
was doing. Then we'll go to NTD
and have better stories, because

1127
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:10,380
it gets as we know, NTD hates
China, yes,

1128
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,940
Adam Curry: yes, exactly. All
right. Where

1129
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:12,480
Unknown: do we start?

1130
01:03:12,540 --> 01:03:16,740
Adam Curry: This is ABC, CBS,
NBC, the spies in America. We

1131
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:18,360
have several of them. It turns
out,

1132
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:20,900
John C Dvorak: yeah, I think,
well, there's a lot of spies.

1133
01:03:21,260 --> 01:03:24,980
Let's face it, yeah, there's
everyone's all shocked. And my

1134
01:03:24,980 --> 01:03:29,060
favorite stuff is coming up with
the discovery that there's spies

1135
01:03:29,060 --> 01:03:34,220
in the Chinese embassies. Oh,
no, we don't do that ever. No,

1136
01:03:34,220 --> 01:03:36,500
no, no, nothing we would ever
do.

1137
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,460
Adam Curry: No way. So

1138
01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:39,440
John C Dvorak: let's start with
the short one and start with

1139
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:40,700
NBC. Okay,

1140
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:43,420
Unknown: before we top aide to
New York Governor Kathy Hochul

1141
01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:47,320
was arrested today on charges of
acting as a secret agent of the

1142
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,680
Chinese government. Chief
Justice contributor Jonathan

1143
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,440
Deans is following this and John
According to prosecutors, how

1144
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,220
did this work?

1145
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,420
Yeah, well, prosecutors

1146
01:03:55,420 --> 01:03:59,500
say Linda Sun betrayed her
official office by instead

1147
01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:03,240
acting on requests of Chinese
communist government officials.

1148
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:06,840
Son is charged with acting as an
unregistered foreign agent. Her

1149
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,960
husband was also arrested today.
He's accused of laundering

1150
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,160
millions of dollars from China
into the US. The couple pleaded

1151
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,400
not guilty in federal court.
According to the indictment, the

1152
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,780
scheme went on for years. In
return, son and her husband were

1153
01:04:20,780 --> 01:04:23,660
allegedly given business
opportunities in China and

1154
01:04:23,660 --> 01:04:28,280
luxury gifts. The FBI says the
pair used that money to buy a $4

1155
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,720
million home on Long Island and
a $2 million condo in Hawaii.

1156
01:04:33,020 --> 01:04:36,800
Governor Hochul office says Son
was fired last year after

1157
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,620
evidence of misconduct was
discovered. Lester

1158
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,540
Adam Curry: misconduct that's
not classified as

1159
01:04:43,540 --> 01:04:47,860
John C Dvorak: buying ducks, and
she also worked for Cuomo. And

1160
01:04:47,860 --> 01:04:50,320
the thing that's funny,
interesting is that she, or she

1161
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,960
is an assistant, you know,
working in the government,

1162
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,280
driving a Ferrari, and nobody's
suspicious of this.

1163
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,040
Adam Curry: Hey, Kathy, you. So
what, I'm what I missed in all

1164
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,200
of these news reports. And I
don't know if, because you have

1165
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,560
two other ones here. Did Hochul
come out and talk to anybody

1166
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,620
about this? Has anyone asked her
to speak on camera? Oh,

1167
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:13,200
John C Dvorak: no. Hochul claims
that she's responsible for them

1168
01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:17,340
for kicking her out. Oh, okay.
Oh, smart move. That's what. No,

1169
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,920
she came out and said, Yeah. She
says she was suspicious. I don't

1170
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,280
think the Ferrari as for a
government worker, was much to

1171
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,780
evidence. But okay, and

1172
01:05:26,780 --> 01:05:29,600
Adam Curry: How stupid are you
as a spy to be rolling around in

1173
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:30,620
a Ferrari? Yeah,

1174
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:33,020
John C Dvorak: there you go.
That's actually a good point

1175
01:05:33,020 --> 01:05:36,320
that why would a spot good spies
don't go around driving around

1176
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,920
Ferraris in the Emmy James Bond
might. But you know, we're

1177
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,680
talking about real spies? Well,

1178
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Adam Curry: you know, there's so
much there's so much corruption.

1179
01:05:44,620 --> 01:05:50,380
You see all these like that
Mayor, all of these people who

1180
01:05:50,380 --> 01:05:54,880
get into government places, a
lot of them women, actually, and

1181
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,660
then they just go nuts on
spending and buying cars and

1182
01:05:58,660 --> 01:06:01,440
taking trips, and think that no
one will figure it out, because

1183
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,740
I think the corruption is so
deep and the money has been

1184
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:07,200
flowing for so long, I'm talking
decades, they're

1185
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,880
John C Dvorak: delusional. Yes,

1186
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:10,320
Adam Curry: yes,

1187
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,220
John C Dvorak: they're totally
delusional. Let's go to a B C's

1188
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:14,760
report

1189
01:06:14,820 --> 01:06:17,280
Unknown: tonight. A former aide
to two New York Governors has

1190
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,840
been arrested and charged with
spying for China authorities

1191
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,660
searching the Long Island Home
of Linda sun and her husband,

1192
01:06:23,660 --> 01:06:27,200
Chris who, federal prosecutors
say the couple received,

1193
01:06:28,580 --> 01:06:31,220
Adam Curry: who, who spying
husband

1194
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:33,560
Unknown: Chris who, federal
prosecutors say the couple

1195
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,620
received millions in kickbacks
from China and laundered the

1196
01:06:36,620 --> 01:06:39,200
monetary proceeds to buy the
mansion and then Hassett New

1197
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,920
York for three and a half
million dollars a condominium in

1198
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,280
Honolulu, Hawaii for nearly 2
million in various luxury

1199
01:06:45,340 --> 01:06:48,820
automobiles including a Ferrari
Sun worked for former Governor

1200
01:06:48,820 --> 01:06:51,820
Andrew Cuomo and his successor,
Governor Kathy Hochul for more

1201
01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:54,820
than a decade, and never
disclosed any benefits she

1202
01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:58,420
received. Instead, prosecutors
say she acted as an undisclosed

1203
01:06:58,420 --> 01:07:01,620
agent of China, allegedly
blocking representatives of the

1204
01:07:01,620 --> 01:07:04,440
Taiwanese government from having
access to the New York State

1205
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,140
Governor's office, and changing
the governor's messaging

1206
01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:10,740
regarding issues of importance
to the Chinese Sun traveled to

1207
01:07:10,740 --> 01:07:13,200
China, as seen in this photo
included in the indictment,

1208
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,780
where prosecutors say she met
with officials from the Chinese

1209
01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:18,720
Communist Party. She and her
family also allegedly received

1210
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,800
gifts from China, including
tickets to shows, concerts and

1211
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,700
events, as well as salted ducks
prepared by a Chinese settlement

1212
01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:29,420
official's personal chef. Sun is
a naturalized US citizen who was

1213
01:07:29,420 --> 01:07:32,900
born in China and rose to become
hokul is Deputy Chief of Staff

1214
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:34,760
late today, Hochul responding,

1215
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,620
I'm curious, and I'm outraged,
absolutely shocked at how brazen

1216
01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:43,540
her behavior was. It was a
betrayal of trust, the trust of

1217
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:47,200
government, the trust of the
people. And I'll tell you this,

1218
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,520
the second we discovered some
levels of misconduct, we

1219
01:07:51,580 --> 01:07:52,600
fired her and a

1220
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,820
representative for former
Governor Cuomo, saying that

1221
01:07:54,820 --> 01:07:57,760
while he was in office, son had
little to no interaction with

1222
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:58,240
the governor.

1223
01:07:58,780 --> 01:08:00,600
Adam Curry: You know, it's kind
of funny in the parallel

1224
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:06,060
universe. Before we left for for
our quote, unquote vacation, we

1225
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:07,140
finished up Veep.

1226
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,380
John C Dvorak: And oh, you
finally finished Veep. Yeah. And

1227
01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:11,160
so in

1228
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,320
Adam Curry: the last season,
where they kind of compress

1229
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,720
everything and get it done, they
didn't even have a full season.

1230
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:20,340
It seemed like she's running for
president again. Selena Meyer

1231
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:25,220
and she hires a campaign
manager, and it's, it's the

1232
01:08:25,220 --> 01:08:28,220
wrong guy. She thought it was
some other guy. And this dork,

1233
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,060
like a total dork, oh, he comes
in, and they keep shutting him

1234
01:08:32,060 --> 01:08:35,240
out of meetings, everything, and
and, you know, because actually,

1235
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,060
if someone, she has someone else
running the campaign, and then

1236
01:08:38,060 --> 01:08:42,400
it turns out that guy is
actually a Chinese operative.

1237
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,340
And then he's in, he turns
around and starts threatening

1238
01:08:45,340 --> 01:08:48,400
her, like, oh, no, you if you
don't do that, we're gonna want

1239
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,160
to, you know, we'll never let
you become president. She says,

1240
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,500
you know, you got to take care
of my husband. They blow her

1241
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,860
that guy calls the Chinese. They
blow up her ex husband on his

1242
01:08:56,860 --> 01:09:00,780
boat. You know, it's just like,
it's Wow. It's like this has

1243
01:09:00,780 --> 01:09:04,260
been going on, and that's why
they parody it. You know, these

1244
01:09:04,260 --> 01:09:08,460
spies and the ones you never
expect, except the Ferrari might

1245
01:09:08,460 --> 01:09:13,200
have been a clue. Ferrari.
Ferrari, you know,

1246
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,300
John C Dvorak: she, when you
look at she also did a speech.

1247
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:19,500
She gave a speech on dei and how
important it was. Oh, yeah,

1248
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:20,220
Unknown: there you go.

1249
01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:23,780
John C Dvorak: I've seen that
this, when you see her, she's

1250
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,500
one of those. She has a certain
look that you see when you when

1251
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:33,560
you go to China and you're
escorted by Chinese escort

1252
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,900
nationals who who speak no guys.
It was just like a guy in this

1253
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:46,540
case, perfect English. Perfect
English. Yeah, red flag. Well,

1254
01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:50,560
besides that, the sense of
humor, they, it's weird because

1255
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,480
they they can't do, they can't
deal. You have this theory about

1256
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:59,620
a sarcasm in certain uh,
cultures, those cultures, but

1257
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,720
the. Chinese, perfect speaking
English, speaking Chinese, in

1258
01:10:03,780 --> 01:10:07,680
Chinese, Chinese. We're talking
about the Nationals. Their sense

1259
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,480
of humor is not there. They
don't have it. And they you can

1260
01:10:12,540 --> 01:10:16,740
I remember this one. We were on
this bus, and there was this guy

1261
01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:20,160
from uh, giving us a lectures as
we're driving around the bus, a

1262
01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:23,420
bunch of us, and I'm in the
front, and I'm making my doing

1263
01:10:23,420 --> 01:10:28,280
one liners, just one thing
after. And I noticed this guy

1264
01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:32,420
was he looked at me like, funny.
Like, what? Why is he was saying

1265
01:10:32,420 --> 01:10:35,600
that, and it would and I
realized he has zero sense of

1266
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,200
humor, which encouraged me to do
this even more well. So I would

1267
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,820
say something that was
incredibly funny. We have guy

1268
01:10:42,820 --> 01:10:45,100
was oblivious. This girl looks
like

1269
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:49,420
Adam Curry: that guy. We have a
clip that accentuates that lack

1270
01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:50,020
of humor.

1271
01:10:50,140 --> 01:10:54,580
Unknown: Don't laugh. Why you
are laughing? Shut up.

1272
01:10:54,820 --> 01:10:59,440
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly so
onward, now that we moved to the

1273
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:03,600
CBS clip. Slip the CIA says,
Linda, what do you have to say

1274
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,820
to the allegations?

1275
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,700
Unknown: Linda's son and her
husband had nothing to say as

1276
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:13,140
they walked out of a Brooklyn
federal court Tuesday, the

1277
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:16,500
former high ranking aide to New
York Governor Kathy Hochul and

1278
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:20,360
her predecessor, Andrew Cuomo,
pleaded not guilty to several

1279
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,380
charges accusing her of a brazen
scheme to serve as a secret

1280
01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:25,460
agent of China, a

1281
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,020
lot of the allegations.

1282
01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:36,260
FBI agents raided Sun's Long
Island Home back in July. At the

1283
01:11:36,260 --> 01:11:39,980
time, the reason was not
disclosed. Now, the Justice

1284
01:11:39,980 --> 01:11:43,240
Department alleges she shaped
New York State messaging to

1285
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,200
align with Chinese priorities,
blocked references to Taiwan and

1286
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,680
government documents and stopped
meetings between state and

1287
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,300
Taiwanese representatives. In
return, Prosecutors allege sun

1288
01:11:55,300 --> 01:11:58,540
and her husband received
millions of dollars in business

1289
01:11:58,540 --> 01:12:02,400
in China, along with personal
benefits, such as paid travel,

1290
01:12:02,580 --> 01:12:06,540
event tickets and a job for a
family member. Federal

1291
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:10,020
investigators also claim the
couple laundered the profits to

1292
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:13,740
purchase several multimillion
dollar properties and luxury

1293
01:12:13,740 --> 01:12:17,400
cars. Nice hochul's office said
son's employment was terminated

1294
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,500
in March of 2023 after evidence
of misconduct. And a

1295
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:25,460
spokesperson for Andrew Cuomo
said son had little interaction

1296
01:12:25,460 --> 01:12:29,000
with the then governor in her
roles under his administration.

1297
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,320
Tony, all right. Trika, thank

1298
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:30,980
you very much.

1299
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,980
Adam Curry: You know Cuomo is
going to have to come before the

1300
01:12:33,980 --> 01:12:38,180
I think it's a Senate committee
about, you know the 15,000 old

1301
01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:43,240
people he indirect, indirectly
killed. But I wonder if she was,

1302
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,080
you know, any, I don't know
this. You get China, you got

1303
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,420
Yeah, and why don't we do what?
What they do with our agents,

1304
01:12:52,420 --> 01:12:53,320
kill them.

1305
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,700
John C Dvorak: I find this whole
thing that the one aspect of

1306
01:12:57,700 --> 01:13:00,660
this that I find baffling is
that they fired her in March,

1307
01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:04,500
and then they raided her place
in July, and she's still here.

1308
01:13:05,940 --> 01:13:10,320
Why didn't her, she and her
husband pull up stakes and head

1309
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:10,740
out?

1310
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,720
Adam Curry: And is it
interesting that if you look at

1311
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:18,360
the known Chinese spy stories,
it's hokel Democrat, it's well,

1312
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,480
well, Democrat, oh, well, and,
and, what's the the old bag?

1313
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:29,000
What's her name? From Feinstein?
Feinstein, 20 years you know

1314
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:29,780
Democrats,

1315
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,160
John C Dvorak: Democrats keeping
an eye on her. I know it's this.

1316
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,180
It's Yeah, well, let's go to
what NCD has to say. In place,

1317
01:13:38,180 --> 01:13:42,760
China spy is one. This is in D,
D, the State

1318
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,100
Unknown: Department confirmed
today that China's counsel

1319
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:48,880
general in New York is no longer
in office. The department said

1320
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,060
diplomat Huang Ping was not
expelled and left after

1321
01:13:52,060 --> 01:13:55,240
completing his scheduled
rotation. The clarification came

1322
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,360
after New York Governor Kathy
Hochul had said she asked for

1323
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,440
the Chinese diplomat to be
expelled to send a message to

1324
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:04,200
the Chinese officials who worked
with one of her former aides,

1325
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,320
Linda sun. Sun was charged
yesterday with being an

1326
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:10,380
unregistered agent of the
Chinese regime. Here's State

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01:14:10,380 --> 01:14:13,260
Department spokesperson Matthew
Miller addressing the issue

1328
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:13,740
today

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01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:22,640
foreign interference, including
attempts to influence by through

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,280
covert activities that should be
registered under the Foreign

1331
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,160
Agents Registration Act and are
not registered. Are things that

1332
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,500
we take serious, very seriously,
as you saw by the action

1333
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:32,240
Department of Justice took
yesterday.

1334
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:37,880
Adam Curry: Where's the Chinese
influencer, cash? You know, what

1335
01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:41,260
are those guys? Dumb? You got to
get some of those podcasters.

1336
01:14:41,260 --> 01:14:45,100
Hint, hint, you got to get some
podcasters on the payroll if you

1337
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:48,760
really want to influence anyone
in America. And by the way, this

1338
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,260
timeline, which is bothersome,
March 2023, and now it's coming

1339
01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:57,940
out, this has got to be a ramp
up towards the the Pacific.

1340
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,960
John C Dvorak: There's something
go. You're right. This is a ramp

1341
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,020
that's too that is suspicious.
Yeah,

1342
01:15:04,380 --> 01:15:06,480
Adam Curry: we got to go out,
start going after China. Pretty

1343
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,220
soon it's been in the man,

1344
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,800
John C Dvorak: I think this is
all part of the, yeah, we have

1345
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,400
to keep the money going to
Ukraine or fix that problem. So

1346
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,640
we, let's set this, do this bull
crap with the election

1347
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,440
interference and RT of all play
places. Yeah? And now, let's

1348
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,400
ramp this Chinese thing up, even
though I think your original

1349
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,360
point, which is, why don't we
just kill them like they do to

1350
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:36,200
our people in China? Yeah. Okay.
Onward.

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01:15:36,260 --> 01:15:38,840
Unknown: This comes after Linda
sun, a former Deputy Chief of

1352
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,220
Staff a to Governor Hochul and
former Governor Cuomo, was

1353
01:15:42,220 --> 01:15:45,220
charged with conspiring to
violate the foreign Agents

1354
01:15:45,220 --> 01:15:48,640
Registration Act that's on top
of other charges like alien

1355
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,120
smuggling, money laundering and
visa fraud. While working for

1356
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,240
state government, Sun influenced
the messaging of high level

1357
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,300
state officials. In the
indictment, Prosecutors allege

1358
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:01,080
that sun blocked Taiwanese
government representatives from

1359
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,440
communicating with officials, as
well as obtained official New

1360
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:07,440
York State proclamations for
Chinese state representatives

1361
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,660
without authorization. So

1362
01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:13,380
Adam Curry: here's a
commonality. So we have Farah

1363
01:16:13,380 --> 01:16:18,600
act in the news today in two
separate cases, one, Russia,

1364
01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:22,880
two, China. But you know who's
not registered under the Farah

1365
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:28,880
act APEC? Why? Because their
money comes from the military

1366
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:33,500
industrial complex. So as long
as you're in that camp, you're

1367
01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:39,860
good to go influence all you
want. Yeah, this is like, come

1368
01:16:39,860 --> 01:16:43,840
on. Okay, so, well, this is
interesting. I didn't expect

1369
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:49,240
this, actually, but 60 minutes,
did a profile of Gina Raimondo.

1370
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:49,540
Oh,

1371
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,080
John C Dvorak: God, I saw that.
Yes,

1372
01:16:53,140 --> 01:16:55,660
Adam Curry: I got a couple
clips, because she goes, let's

1373
01:16:55,660 --> 01:16:58,480
finish the spy. Oh, I'm sorry. I
thought you were done with the

1374
01:16:58,480 --> 01:16:59,560
spies. No, no, you

1375
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,320
John C Dvorak: did you play
clip? Dude? Did you play clip?

1376
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,440
Adam Curry: That was that was
clear to clip three, I'm sorry.

1377
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:04,980
Clip three,

1378
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:07,500
Unknown: I missed that one. And
joining us now to explore how

1379
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:10,920
Chinese consulates are involved
in CCP spy operations on

1380
01:17:10,980 --> 01:17:15,720
American soil. Are two guests.
Nan Su is a senior investigative

1381
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,540
reporter with The epic times,
and Jimmy Quinn is a national

1382
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:22,280
security correspondent for The
National Review. Thank you both

1383
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,800
so much for joining us. Great to
see you both again. And so I

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01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,280
want to start with you from your
research, what is the role of

1385
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,700
Chinese consulates when it comes
to the Chinese regime's overseas

1386
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,320
operations?

1387
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,980
Well, first of all, thank you,
Tiffany, for having me. Now the

1388
01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:41,800
Chinese Consulate for long, long
time, many years, they have been

1389
01:17:41,860 --> 01:17:48,580
reaching out local different
Chinese group like oversee

1390
01:17:48,580 --> 01:17:53,440
Chinese alum alumni groups,
Chinese student groups, local

1391
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:58,000
culture groups, for example,
certain peoples from certain

1392
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,220
region, They will have speak
different dialects, and so they

1393
01:18:02,220 --> 01:18:06,480
form some of the local cultural
groups. And what they have done

1394
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:11,580
is they will have this group
after these groups of form, they

1395
01:18:11,580 --> 01:18:15,660
will keep the tight connection
with only three or four,

1396
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:21,920
basically, very small group of
top leaders. You know, we they

1397
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,580
know the true relation between
their group and Chinese

1398
01:18:25,580 --> 01:18:29,300
Consulate, and how, that's how
the Chinese Consulate control

1399
01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:31,700
all different all these
different groups.

1400
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,780
And expanding on that, Jimmy we
saw in 2020 when the Chinese

1401
01:18:35,780 --> 01:18:38,960
Consulate in Houston shut down,
video showing personnel burning

1402
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,580
papers or documents in the back
from a national security

1403
01:18:42,580 --> 01:18:45,820
perspective, what is your
reaction to those videos?

1404
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,580
Well, it's important to know
that the Chinese Communist

1405
01:18:48,580 --> 01:18:51,940
Party's long arm reaches right
into American cities, and the

1406
01:18:51,940 --> 01:18:58,960
Chinese consulates are directing
the hand of CCP repression. So

1407
01:18:59,020 --> 01:19:02,880
the role that they play is that
they are engaging with community

1408
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,480
members, as Nan said, and
exerting the party's malign

1409
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:10,560
influence over politics, over
community organizations. It's

1410
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,500
all part of the party's united
front strategy.

1411
01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:16,620
Adam Curry: This is a Red Scare.
Repeat

1412
01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:21,260
John C Dvorak: a little bit.
They definitely this went on and

1413
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:25,580
on. I stopped it there, because
it goes on and on with holy, you

1414
01:19:25,580 --> 01:19:28,880
know, the different groups and
the different kinds of way they

1415
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,000
do the spying, and then the
phony baloney police

1416
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,940
departments, including the one
they set up in New York City.

1417
01:19:36,020 --> 01:19:40,900
It's kind of fascinating. They
do a decent job, but they get

1418
01:19:40,900 --> 01:19:43,720
caught. So, so do we?

1419
01:19:43,780 --> 01:19:48,400
Adam Curry: So let me now that
you've said that the 60 Minutes

1420
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,580
interview with Gina Raimondo,
where did she come from? Gina

1421
01:19:51,580 --> 01:19:53,200
Raimondo, did she just she was

1422
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,680
John C Dvorak: the governor of
Rhode Island, I believe, really.

1423
01:19:57,220 --> 01:19:57,700
Yeah.

1424
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:03,180
Adam Curry: Gina Raimondo. I
will consult the book of

1425
01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:07,620
knowledge. Briefly, she, she
looks spooky, by the way.

1426
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:09,540
John C Dvorak: She's creepy.
Yeah, she

1427
01:20:09,540 --> 01:20:13,920
Adam Curry: is kind of creepy.
Let me see, well, it doesn't say

1428
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,520
where she comes. I need the
Wikipedia. So she was

1429
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,420
interviewed. Why? You know,
well, there's, there's a couple

1430
01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:23,600
of reasons. Probably, when you
think about this, oh, she was in

1431
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,560
here it is. Oh, she began her
career in venture capital.

1432
01:20:28,580 --> 01:20:31,460
John C Dvorak: Ah, yes, she was
point VC Judith capital,

1433
01:20:31,460 --> 01:20:34,220
Adam Curry: Rhode Island's first
venture capital firm. Then she

1434
01:20:34,220 --> 01:20:37,460
was the general treasurer of
Rhode Island, where she

1435
01:20:37,460 --> 01:20:40,660
prioritized reforming Rhode
Island's public employee pension

1436
01:20:40,660 --> 01:20:44,800
system, money, money, money.
Okay, so she's, she's a, she's

1437
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,160
been around. She's a mover and
shaker. So

1438
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,760
John C Dvorak: she, she seems
dumb, though, well, you

1439
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,940
Adam Curry: got to be careful
with the dumb ones, the most

1440
01:20:54,940 --> 01:20:58,240
dangerous. So she pivots from
Russia to China in this

1441
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,900
interview. And we started off
because, well, you'll hear what

1442
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:03,780
what she her whole thing, and
she's the What is this? What

1443
01:21:03,780 --> 01:21:07,200
does the Department of Commerce
really do? What is their job?

1444
01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:10,260
John C Dvorak: Became an issue,
a point that she explained in

1445
01:21:10,260 --> 01:21:13,020
this interview, because she
didn't know what it did either

1446
01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:15,180
when she took the job. Let's see

1447
01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:16,200
Adam Curry: if she explains it
here.

1448
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,720
Unknown: What does the Secretary
of Commerce do until now? Mainly

1449
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:25,520
promote US businesses abroad. It
had not been a high profile job

1450
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:30,320
till Gina Raimondo turned the
second tier agency into a center

1451
01:21:30,380 --> 01:21:35,780
of job creation, manufacturing
and national security. Once the

1452
01:21:35,780 --> 01:21:40,240
governor of Rhode Island,
Raimondo, at 53 seems to have

1453
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,620
come out of nowhere to become a
rising star of the Democratic

1454
01:21:44,620 --> 01:21:45,100
Party.

1455
01:21:45,220 --> 01:21:47,860
Adam Curry: Got to be careful of
those rising stars that come out

1456
01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:48,700
of nowhere and

1457
01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:51,820
Unknown: of the Biden
administration as Commerce

1458
01:21:51,820 --> 01:21:55,840
Secretary, she's running new
projects that, as we first

1459
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,720
reported in April, could touch
the lives of every American, and

1460
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,160
she's helping lead the expanding
cold war with China and confront

1461
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:09,720
Russia's aggression in Ukraine.
The battlefield for both

1462
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,780
John C Dvorak: do with Russia
and Ukraine? Well, it's

1463
01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:15,600
Unknown: coming up is
technology. Technology,

1464
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,980
if you think about national
security today, in 2024 it's not

1465
01:22:21,980 --> 01:22:25,880
just tanks and missiles. It's
technology, it's semiconductors,

1466
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:30,140
it's AI, it's drones, and the
Commerce Department is at the

1467
01:22:30,140 --> 01:22:32,660
Red Hot center of technology,

1468
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:37,820
Adam Curry: the red hot center.
Okay, so she This is making more

1469
01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:42,940
sense. She's placed firmly in
all of these issues with Russia

1470
01:22:42,940 --> 01:22:43,780
and China

1471
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:49,180
Unknown: and at the Red Hot
center, a global chip war ramped

1472
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,320
up, says Gina Raimondo, when
Russia invaded Ukraine, the

1473
01:22:53,980 --> 01:22:54,400
Commerce

1474
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,720
Department stopped all
semiconductor chips from being

1475
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,280
sold to Russia. Every drone,
every missile, every tank, has

1476
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,220
semiconductors in them. And you
know Leslie, you know we're

1477
01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:10,680
being effective, because shortly
after we started that work, we

1478
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:16,380
heard stories of the Russians
taking semiconductors out of

1479
01:23:16,380 --> 01:23:20,820
refrigerators, out of
dishwashers, out of breasts.

1480
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,480
John C Dvorak: By the way, you
should stop for a second. I

1481
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:27,260
heard this. This is bull crap,
of course. How many refer I have

1482
01:23:27,260 --> 01:23:31,040
a big refrigerator. I got
dishwashers. I've there's no

1483
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,040
semiconductors in any of the
gear I have. And I'm in the

1484
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,140
United States with high end
gear, yeah,

1485
01:23:36,140 --> 01:23:38,660
Adam Curry: but, but she says,
here they took them. They took

1486
01:23:38,660 --> 01:23:44,020
semiconductors out of breast
pumps. Yeah, come on.

1487
01:23:44,380 --> 01:23:47,200
John C Dvorak: And they just
can't take random semiconductor

1488
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,080
and then all of a sudden put it
in a drone. I mean, is this a

1489
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,920
chip? You can do any bull, yeah,
it's a chip. That's exactly

1490
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,000
right. That's the way she it's a
chip. It's a chip. Just is so

1491
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,700
much nonsense. She's the same
woman that we had a clip. I

1492
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:05,820
don't know if we actually played
it, but we had the clip of her

1493
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,900
being called out on the fact
that there was this job, the

1494
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:13,440
jobs report was off. And she
says, Well, Trump's a liar. Oh,

1495
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:17,640
was this Bureau statistics that
said this? And then she says, I

1496
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:18,600
never heard of him.

1497
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,000
Adam Curry: Hold on a second,
liar,

1498
01:24:24,980 --> 01:24:27,380
John C Dvorak: it would be a
good we just played

1499
01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:30,860
Adam Curry: ramondo, yeah,
unfortunately, I don't have

1500
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,380
John C Dvorak: he was she
Anyway, she's, she's a dummy.

1501
01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:36,260
That was just the other day. It
was just the other day. It was

1502
01:24:36,260 --> 01:24:37,160
recently. Yes,

1503
01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:39,560
Adam Curry: jobs report, let me
see. Well, I'll look for it

1504
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,380
while we continue with this
clip,

1505
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,400
Unknown: out of refrigerators,
out of dishwashers, out of

1506
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:50,560
breast pumps, getting the chips
to put them into their military

1507
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,120
equipment. However,

1508
01:24:52,180 --> 01:24:56,800
the Russians are now working
their way around this. They are

1509
01:24:56,860 --> 01:24:59,920
successfully and they're doing
better in the war. Probably.

1510
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,680
Because of this, you are

1511
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:07,020
right in what you say, but she
says it's absolutely the case

1512
01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:11,400
that our export controls have
hurt their ability to conduct

1513
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,080
the war, made it harder, and we
are enforcing this every minute

1514
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,420
of every day, doing everything
we can now.

1515
01:25:18,420 --> 01:25:21,020
Adam Curry: Do you hear her
speaking there? Does she sound

1516
01:25:21,020 --> 01:25:23,120
like Kamala Harris, or what

1517
01:25:24,740 --> 01:25:27,680
John C Dvorak: she sounds a
little BS, is a milieu? Yes,

1518
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,720
Adam Curry: listen to it again,
that

1519
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,900
Unknown: our export controls
have hurt their ability to

1520
01:25:32,900 --> 01:25:37,700
conduct the war. Made it harder,
and we are enforcing this every

1521
01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:40,300
minute of every day, doing
everything right there, right

1522
01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:42,700
Adam Curry: there every minute
of every day. All right. So

1523
01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:45,040
Unknown: talk about this
enforcement. These are some of

1524
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,920
the enforcers. We should talk
about our controls on Russia.

1525
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:52,600
Raimondo, team at Commerce that
monitors and polices the ban on

1526
01:25:52,660 --> 01:25:56,440
any company in the world from
selling products with American

1527
01:25:56,440 --> 01:25:59,980
chips in them to Russia, China,
but not just Russia.

1528
01:26:00,100 --> 01:26:03,840
I've made sure that the most
advanced American technology

1529
01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:06,720
can't be used in China. The

1530
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,680
Chinese warn that these export
controls could trigger an

1531
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:16,620
escalating trade war. Trade with
China accounts for 150,000 US

1532
01:26:16,620 --> 01:26:20,600
jobs, and if trade ends, we lose
our jobs.

1533
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:26,660
We want to trade with China on
the vast majority of goods and

1534
01:26:26,660 --> 01:26:30,980
services, but on those
technologies that affect our

1535
01:26:30,980 --> 01:26:33,620
national security. No, no, no.

1536
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:39,860
Those advanced chips are in
consumer goods. Banks use them

1537
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,440
hospitals. This is going toward
products that are made for

1538
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:45,820
civilian use, yeah,

1539
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:52,060
well, they also go into nuclear
weapons surveillance systems.

1540
01:26:52,180 --> 01:26:56,440
And we know they want these
chips and our sophisticated

1541
01:26:56,740 --> 01:26:59,740
technology to advance their
military, just so

1542
01:26:59,740 --> 01:27:02,100
Adam Curry: you know, breast
pump chips are spying on you.

1543
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:07,620
She is a member of the Council
on Foreign Relations and an

1544
01:27:07,620 --> 01:27:14,580
Aspen Institute Rodel fellow. So
here so now she's gone to the

1545
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:16,380
Chinese and this is what it's
all about.

1546
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,840
Unknown: Her toughness has made
her a target in China, where

1547
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:25,340
fake ads have her promoting the
new Chinese made smartphones.

1548
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:30,380
Last year, the government in
Beijing hacked her email, and

1549
01:27:30,380 --> 01:27:31,940
when she was in China,

1550
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:36,020
Adam Curry: what they hacked her
email? This would have been a

1551
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:38,420
pretty big story, of the Chinese
are hacking

1552
01:27:38,420 --> 01:27:41,920
John C Dvorak: whole story of
this whole presentation is bull

1553
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,460
crap for the fact that the
Chinese are putting they

1554
01:27:45,460 --> 01:27:48,520
developing. Here's what a lot of
people believe is happening when

1555
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,660
they would, would Biden put the
kibosh on sending certain kinds

1556
01:27:52,660 --> 01:27:56,980
of chips to China that they that
are made in Taiwan anyway, as if

1557
01:27:56,980 --> 01:28:00,040
they can't get a back door from
Taiwan. But that's

1558
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,640
Adam Curry: coming up. That's
coming up, yeah, is that

1559
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,440
John C Dvorak: the Chinese are
going to start doing their own

1560
01:28:04,440 --> 01:28:05,640
fabs and they'll catch up? Well,

1561
01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:06,720
Adam Curry: this is the story
her

1562
01:28:06,780 --> 01:28:11,280
Unknown: email. And when she was
in China on a trip, ironically,

1563
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:16,020
to improve relations, the tech
company Huawei introduced that

1564
01:28:16,020 --> 01:28:21,020
new smartphone with an advanced
Chinese made chip. It was kind

1565
01:28:21,020 --> 01:28:26,660
of in your face, as if to say,
look at the chip, and it was a

1566
01:28:26,660 --> 01:28:28,640
pretty good high level chip.

1567
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,820
Adam Curry: Leslie Stahl knows
all about high level chips.

1568
01:28:32,420 --> 01:28:35,900
Unknown: I have their attention
clearly, and they've gotten

1569
01:28:35,900 --> 01:28:40,160
yours. Well, what tells me is
the export controls are working

1570
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:47,620
because that chip is not nearly
as good. It's years behind. What

1571
01:28:47,620 --> 01:28:48,460
we have.

1572
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:53,080
Adam Curry: How does she know
all this is years behind? Yeah,

1573
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:53,740
what

1574
01:28:53,740 --> 01:28:56,320
John C Dvorak: is years behind?
Mean, I mean, the reason for the

1575
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,300
newer chips is because they're
cheaper and faster, but the old

1576
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:03,120
ships. I mean, you can use a
phone that's five years old and

1577
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,180
is still dynamite. Yes, this is
near old crap.

1578
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:10,620
Unknown: Really is good. It's
years behind what we have in the

1579
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:15,480
United States. We have the most
sophisticated semiconductors in

1580
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:19,320
the world. China, doesn't we've
out innovated China. Well,

1581
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:25,820
we, you mean, Taiwan, fair while
American companies design the

1582
01:29:25,820 --> 01:29:29,840
world's most advanced chips,
none are actually made in the

1583
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:35,360
US. 90% of them come from
Taiwan, and they are key to the

1584
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:40,960
future of us, military weaponry
and China, from time to time,

1585
01:29:41,020 --> 01:29:45,400
threatens, you know, the wolf to
invade Taiwan, and some people

1586
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,760
say the whole reason is to get
their hands on those chips.

1587
01:29:48,940 --> 01:29:49,960
That's a problem. It's

1588
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,420
a risk. It makes us vulnerable.
There

1589
01:29:52,420 --> 01:29:56,860
Adam Curry: it is. We have to
protect our chips made in Taiwan

1590
01:29:56,860 --> 01:29:58,000
from the Chinese.

1591
01:29:58,780 --> 01:30:01,020
John C Dvorak: That's that's as
we can. Come here and the chips

1592
01:30:01,020 --> 01:30:06,960
Act's doing nothing. Nope. The
tmsc guy, the TSMC guy, came

1593
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,020
over here and you can't set up
shop because of the labor laws

1594
01:30:10,020 --> 01:30:13,980
and whatever, he says, screw
that. And then recently, since

1595
01:30:13,980 --> 01:30:17,280
they gave a billions to Intel
because they have a couple of

1596
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,100
fabs, and they're going to build
some out, and then Intel made

1597
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:22,880
this announcement. I think it
was in the last couple of weeks

1598
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,640
that, you know maybe we're going
to get out of the ship, making

1599
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,920
business, the stock skyrocketed.
So, I mean, what is going on

1600
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,140
here? These guys are just
bumblers.

1601
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:38,240
Adam Curry: What does Intel do
besides chips? Nothing. So

1602
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,800
they're just going to become a
VC or something. No,

1603
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,780
John C Dvorak: well, if they
don't, I mean, they can,

1604
01:30:44,620 --> 01:30:47,560
they're, most of their designs
are, I think I don't know where

1605
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,260
they're making their chips at,
but they can make them in

1606
01:30:50,260 --> 01:30:53,920
Taiwan, just like anybody else
does, right? Or any other fab

1607
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:54,580
someplace

1608
01:30:55,780 --> 01:30:57,760
Adam Curry: else, getting out
your fab business is what they

1609
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:58,720
see. Yeah, they were thinking of

1610
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,360
John C Dvorak: getting at,
thinking of getting out of the

1611
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,940
fat business, even though there
was some rumor going around that

1612
01:31:02,940 --> 01:31:06,180
they were going to start making
Nvidia chips, which is very

1613
01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:09,960
humorous, yeah, because they
can't sell enough of their own

1614
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,900
chips, but they were thinking of
making Nvidia but once. But the

1615
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:15,360
thing that's the kicker is when
they said they might get out of

1616
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:20,960
the fab business, the stock went
skyrocketing. That's funny. So

1617
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,500
some things so these guys that
are running things are but and

1618
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:29,000
with Raimondo at the at the top
of it, are bumbling idiots.

1619
01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:32,240
Adam Curry: Well, since you
brought up Nvidia, I might as

1620
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:32,900
well play it.

1621
01:31:32,900 --> 01:31:36,740
Unknown: He's AI's top dog being
brought to heal. Nvidia has

1622
01:31:36,740 --> 01:31:39,560
reportedly been issued a
subpoena by the US Justice

1623
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,300
Department amid a deepening
probe, Bloomberg reporting that

1624
01:31:43,300 --> 01:31:47,020
the DOJ suspects the chip making
giant of using monopolistic

1625
01:31:47,020 --> 01:31:50,800
practices to keep clients from
switching to other suppliers and

1626
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,460
penalizing those that don't use
its chips exclusively, the

1627
01:31:54,460 --> 01:31:56,920
company defending itself in a
statement

1628
01:31:56,980 --> 01:32:00,040
in video, wins on merit, as
reflected in our benchmark

1629
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,600
results and value to customers
who can choose whatever solution

1630
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:04,500
is best for them.

1631
01:32:04,620 --> 01:32:07,800
The recent boom in artificial
intelligence applications like

1632
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,640
chatgpt has put Nvidia's
specialized processors in high

1633
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,240
demand, with sales more than
doubling each quarter, its

1634
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:20,180
annual revenues have skyrocketed
from 16 billion in 2020 to more

1635
01:32:20,180 --> 01:32:24,740
than 120 billion expected this
year. Regulators are reportedly

1636
01:32:24,740 --> 01:32:28,520
focusing on Nvidia's recent
acquisition of run AI, which

1637
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,420
makes software that manages AI
computing sales practices that

1638
01:32:32,420 --> 01:32:35,960
favor clients who run Nvidia
products exclusively are also

1639
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,680
said to be under the microscope,
led by CEO Jensen Huang.

1640
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,120
Nvidia's blockbuster performance
has seen its share price more

1641
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,940
than double this year, briefly
becoming the world's most

1642
01:32:45,940 --> 01:32:49,300
valuable company. The probe
comes at a pivotal moment for

1643
01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:53,140
the industry, though, as the AI
boom has been losing steam on

1644
01:32:53,140 --> 01:32:57,760
markets over fears that its hype
has far outpaced its actual

1645
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,140
economic benefits.

1646
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,580
Adam Curry: I did not have on my
bingo card the Department of

1647
01:33:02,580 --> 01:33:07,560
Justice kicking off the AI
downturn. That was pretty

1648
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:12,240
interesting. Nvidia beat their
numbers, but yet the stock

1649
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:12,900
dropped by 10%

1650
01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:17,520
John C Dvorak: Yeah, kind of
nuttiness goes on constantly,

1651
01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:20,660
Adam Curry: yeah. Well, you
heard it there. It's like, well,

1652
01:33:20,660 --> 01:33:27,020
we're not so sure that. See,
yeah, I'm, I am bearish on AI.

1653
01:33:27,620 --> 01:33:30,080
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
that. There's a nice story that

1654
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:36,560
came out saying, so far AI has
lost half a trillion dollars. I

1655
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,280
had to look twice at it, half a
trillion, trillion. Wow.

1656
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,180
Adam Curry: Hey, with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

1657
01:33:43,180 --> 01:33:46,240
courage. In morning. The in the
morning to you, the man who put

1658
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,060
the sea in the chip roar. Say
hello to my friend on the other

1659
01:33:49,060 --> 01:33:50,860
end, the one the only Mr. John

1660
01:33:54,580 --> 01:33:57,040
John C Dvorak: C divorce, well,
well, in the morning to you, or

1661
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,740
Mr. Adam curry. In the morning,
all ships the sea boosted the

1662
01:33:59,740 --> 01:34:02,100
ground, feet in the air,
substance in the water and all

1663
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:02,400
the days.

1664
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:12,420
Adam Curry: All right, let's see
we have in the troll room, 1733

1665
01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:18,780
which I think is kind of on par.
Where's my where's my peak

1666
01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:23,660
number? Cotton, oh, the peak was
1862 Thank you, cotton gin. All

1667
01:34:23,660 --> 01:34:27,620
right, for Thursday, makes
sense, especially on this, this

1668
01:34:27,620 --> 01:34:31,580
kind of holiday week which are
still in, I don't know if people

1669
01:34:31,580 --> 01:34:33,560
did people even go back to work
anymore.

1670
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah, why bother?
Yeah, just,

1671
01:34:36,380 --> 01:34:38,960
Adam Curry: it's just stay home.
And of course, we have the, you

1672
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,300
know, right to not be disturbed.
We should have that's good.

1673
01:34:41,300 --> 01:34:44,380
That's good. That's coming in
America too. We have the right

1674
01:34:44,380 --> 01:34:48,280
to not be disturbed. You're
disturbing me. Just disturbing

1675
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,040
me. It's horrible. Those trolls
are in the troll room.

1676
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,760
Trollroom.io. Is where you can
listen to the no agenda stream,

1677
01:34:55,060 --> 01:34:58,660
which is 24 hours a day. There's
always something fun playing on

1678
01:34:58,660 --> 01:35:02,280
it. In addition. To that when we
send out the bad signal, you can

1679
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,160
go on there, you control around.
You can listen live and say

1680
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,920
whatever you want. There's no
moderation here. It's freedom of

1681
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:12,480
speech and very limited freedom
of reach. Obviously not that

1682
01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:18,840
many people there compared to x,
but we, we also like it if you

1683
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:23,600
use the modern podcast app,
which will alert you when we

1684
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,660
send out the bat signal. And you
use the same app you'll use for

1685
01:35:26,660 --> 01:35:31,220
your podcast, you can then use
for for listening to the live

1686
01:35:31,220 --> 01:35:34,700
stream, getting into the troll
room. And also most of these

1687
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:37,820
modern podcast apps, you see a
little, a little donate button

1688
01:35:38,060 --> 01:35:41,440
or support this show. Sometimes
it's a little dollar sign you

1689
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:44,440
click on that, it takes you
right to no agenda donations.com

1690
01:35:44,980 --> 01:35:50,200
or whatever value for value
website your favorite podcast

1691
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:55,660
uses. So we have been operating
on value for value, no Russian

1692
01:35:55,660 --> 01:36:04,560
money here. We have no Russian
money. Instead, we have producer

1693
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,420
money. Because we have
producers, we don't have

1694
01:36:06,420 --> 01:36:09,120
listeners. They're out there
providing time, talent and

1695
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,720
treasure, many different things
that you can be doing to support

1696
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,880
the show, hitting people in the
mouth, letting them know about

1697
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:19,500
it. I see people are always
slashing the X about the show

1698
01:36:19,500 --> 01:36:22,400
and saying, Hey, you should
listen to no agenda. I think

1699
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,540
those things really help. Oh, I
know those things help, slashing

1700
01:36:26,540 --> 01:36:31,220
the X, yeah, I made that up
myself. Well, you used to tweet.

1701
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,580
So what do you do on x? You
slash an X? I don't know.

1702
01:36:34,940 --> 01:36:37,640
John C Dvorak: I'm just that's
an interesting phrase. They

1703
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:38,840
might catch on.

1704
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,680
Adam Curry: I've only been using
it for six months,

1705
01:36:42,340 --> 01:36:43,120
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard
it.

1706
01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:46,120
Adam Curry: I say it every
single morning when we start the

1707
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:52,300
show, I said, boost the two,
retweet the tweets and slash the

1708
01:36:52,300 --> 01:36:52,780
X.

1709
01:36:53,500 --> 01:36:59,020
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
this. Okay? And you say it every

1710
01:36:59,020 --> 01:37:00,040
single morning,

1711
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,120
Adam Curry: every show morning,
yes, as we go into

1712
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,520
John C Dvorak: the No, as I was
every morning, just wake up. I

1713
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,260
Adam Curry: just wake up. That's
right. I said good morning.

1714
01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:11,160
Slash the X baby. Let's go,
boom. And Tina's All right, hold

1715
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:15,600
on a second. By the way, Tina
got put in comment jail. But for

1716
01:37:15,900 --> 01:37:18,060
she doesn't know she

1717
01:37:18,540 --> 01:37:20,960
John C Dvorak: What does she
say? Does she know what she's no

1718
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,480
no, but she doesn't know what
she said,

1719
01:37:23,540 --> 01:37:27,500
Adam Curry: No. So this is on
Instagram. And so she posts, she

1720
01:37:27,500 --> 01:37:30,800
can post. She posted, you know,
picture, video of the surprise

1721
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,800
party, and she says, Hey, I
can't comment. And says, You

1722
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,540
can't comment for a week.

1723
01:37:36,980 --> 01:37:39,620
John C Dvorak: I said, Well,
when she says something, she

1724
01:37:39,620 --> 01:37:43,300
doesn't, She's not the type of
person that says the cool, nasty

1725
01:37:43,300 --> 01:37:44,320
stuff. No,

1726
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,540
Adam Curry: she must have hurt
somebody's feelings.

1727
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,780
John C Dvorak: I mean, how else
does it? That's not the kind of

1728
01:37:49,780 --> 01:37:53,620
that's not the way. No, well,
she must have said, used a rot,

1729
01:37:53,620 --> 01:37:56,380
you used the word weird or
something. Again, that doesn't

1730
01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:56,620
count.

1731
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,480
Adam Curry: Okay, we'll let you
slide. Doesn't count. Well, let

1732
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:02,700
John C Dvorak: you say I'm
quoting that. She may have said

1733
01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:07,080
that because I know that some
wordage, just casual wordage

1734
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,660
that people would normally use,
gets you put in these, these

1735
01:38:09,660 --> 01:38:10,440
prisons. I know

1736
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:13,980
Adam Curry: you can't say kill
that's why people are saying

1737
01:38:13,980 --> 01:38:18,240
unalive. The unalive can't kill
it. No, you're killing it. Lady.

1738
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:24,680
No, you unilate it. You can't
say rape. You can't say

1739
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:30,800
pedophile. Say you say PDF file.
There's all kinds of yeah, oh

1740
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:35,240
yeah. There's on the ground
that's also on X, on x,

1741
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,240
John C Dvorak: if you do that,
you can't say pedophile on x.

1742
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,080
Adam Curry: Go ahead, try it.

1743
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,000
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, you
mentioned I won't. I never said

1744
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:43,120
it.

1745
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,480
Adam Curry: Yeah, you can't. You
can't do that. It's No, I just

1746
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:51,280
pedo, maybe I don't know. No,
she does, and she, you know, and

1747
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,340
she's like, What did I do? And
you can't find out, which is,

1748
01:38:54,580 --> 01:38:58,660
makes no, yeah, that's
ridiculous. Makes no sense. How

1749
01:38:58,660 --> 01:39:00,780
John C Dvorak: you not going to
do it again if you don't know

1750
01:39:00,780 --> 01:39:03,660
what it was you did in the first
place. I know all these

1751
01:39:03,660 --> 01:39:06,000
platforms do this because they
don't have anybody working

1752
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,400
there. It's all done by
machines. They're lazy. This is

1753
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,520
like, the customer service,
like, I'll have some issues with

1754
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:16,440
my YouTube TV. No, you tried to
contact there's no customer

1755
01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:18,840
service. You can't use this.
Whatever it is. You tried

1756
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,740
Adam Curry: to contact someone
at Google. That's No, you can't,

1757
01:39:21,740 --> 01:39:24,740
like trying to contact someone
at Apple. It's like, no, not

1758
01:39:24,740 --> 01:39:27,920
possible. No, no. It's not
unless

1759
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,280
John C Dvorak: having difficulty
getting YouTube TV to work on on

1760
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,980
the you'd think one of my
browsers, well,

1761
01:39:33,980 --> 01:39:38,600
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
You'd think that with all the AI

1762
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,740
that Google is involved with,
there'd be an just say, and I'm

1763
01:39:41,740 --> 01:39:45,220
going to use the word an awesome
AI chat bot,

1764
01:39:45,220 --> 01:39:47,320
John C Dvorak: who could, oh,
there is, there's an AI chat

1765
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:51,880
bot. And don't know anything, go
here. Did that Was that helpful?

1766
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:56,500
Yes, no, go here. Was that
helpful? Yes, no. It's always

1767
01:39:56,500 --> 01:39:58,300
no, because it's not helpful

1768
01:39:58,300 --> 01:40:03,060
Adam Curry: at all. No, where. I
have a problem with my USB. You

1769
01:40:03,060 --> 01:40:06,900
know, I'm looking up all kinds
of AI and search engines. And

1770
01:40:06,900 --> 01:40:07,200
no, I

1771
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,240
John C Dvorak: have, you need
Darren. Darren O'Neill,

1772
01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:11,460
Adam Curry: that's right, you
need Darren. That's exactly what

1773
01:40:11,460 --> 01:40:16,020
it is. Darren is one of our
Dutch masters who create artwork

1774
01:40:16,020 --> 01:40:19,920
for the show. We use new art for
every single episode. It helps a

1775
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,780
lot. It grabs attention. You
know, you throw it on your on

1776
01:40:23,780 --> 01:40:27,380
your timelines, people like,
whoa, what's that? And it's and

1777
01:40:27,380 --> 01:40:30,320
it also entertains us. We like,
we like. It entertains

1778
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,740
everybody. Really good artists
is always entertaining. Ai

1779
01:40:33,740 --> 01:40:38,900
generated or not good art is
good art. So for Episode 1691 we

1780
01:40:38,900 --> 01:40:43,360
titled that joy boy. Oh, by the
way, you remember we were

1781
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:48,340
talking about the word joy,
yeah, and I said it had

1782
01:40:48,340 --> 01:40:52,240
something to do with Nazis. We
thought we could have Joy

1783
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:59,620
Division, Joy Division, so, but
a lot of people said, yes, these

1784
01:40:59,620 --> 01:41:03,240
were brothel camp brothels in
the concentration camps that

1785
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:07,920
service the Nazi officers to
boost morale, as well as a form

1786
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,700
of sex therapy for those with
homosexual tendencies who needed

1787
01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:15,360
to be shown the joy of the
opposite sex. And these sex

1788
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,820
slaves in the brothels were
typically female Jewish

1789
01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:21,320
prisoners, and if they expired,
they just replaced it with more.

1790
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:26,240
But they that was known as the
Joy Division of the Nazis. And

1791
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,680
it kind of makes sense the Joy
Division in at NPR, they have a

1792
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,960
joy czar. Well, yeah, it's

1793
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,140
John C Dvorak: to keep it's got
to be a whore. Yeah,

1794
01:41:36,740 --> 01:41:41,920
Adam Curry: there you go. You
nailed it. Uh, thank you to Sir

1795
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,240
net Ned, who brought us the
artwork for Episode 1691 was

1796
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:50,020
pretty good. We were looking at
different pieces. This was the

1797
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:56,140
vibe meter, where we had, on the
left, joy and hope, a nice green

1798
01:41:56,140 --> 01:41:59,560
colors, and on the right, fear,
anger and then just Trump's

1799
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:04,020
head. Yeah, for the for the for
the vibe meter. And let me see

1800
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:06,180
what other artwork was there
that we were looking

1801
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,820
John C Dvorak: much. It was a
few Joy boy pieces that we

1802
01:42:08,820 --> 01:42:12,600
didn't like. We you know, they
were usable, but now we were

1803
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,120
going to use that for the title.
And that was pretty obvious,

1804
01:42:15,180 --> 01:42:19,140
yeah. And people should
recognize. We usually spot the

1805
01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:20,160
title the show.

1806
01:42:20,220 --> 01:42:22,100
Adam Curry: Here's what's funny.
You were like, Hey, I like that

1807
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:25,640
pack of cigarettes. I said it
says fags keep pubs alive. Do

1808
01:42:25,700 --> 01:42:27,740
you think that will be
understood everywhere?

1809
01:42:29,420 --> 01:42:32,420
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, you
got me on that one. And then it

1810
01:42:32,420 --> 01:42:37,160
was by tanta Neil, and the title
of the art was fags. It was

1811
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:46,060
probably a bad idea. Sorry. That
was out I did like sweepers

1812
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:47,560
pieces.

1813
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,580
Adam Curry: Yes, I use new
newsletter. Sweepers new. I

1814
01:42:51,580 --> 01:42:52,720
think he's

1815
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:56,680
John C Dvorak: new or she is
new. And they do. They're doing

1816
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,480
evergreen that is usable to me.
So Evergreens are always

1817
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,040
welcome. Yeah,

1818
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,240
Adam Curry: let's see what else
was there.

1819
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,520
John C Dvorak: They had a
picture your head with joy boy.

1820
01:43:09,300 --> 01:43:11,220
That was a bit much rather
disturbing,

1821
01:43:12,540 --> 01:43:17,340
Adam Curry: disturbing piece of
art. More AI stuff, of course,

1822
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:23,840
some 60th I kind of like the joy
czar that Darren did, which was,

1823
01:43:24,140 --> 01:43:30,500
again, AI, but it was this just
dour looking clown who has a joy

1824
01:43:30,500 --> 01:43:36,320
czar button on. It's a funny
piece, but I think you thought

1825
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:37,280
it was too gruesome.

1826
01:43:37,580 --> 01:43:38,840
John C Dvorak: No, you're the
one that thought it was

1827
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,920
gruesome. I kind of liked it.
What I said we should use it.

1828
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,100
Oh, no, no, I don't think,
whereas I keep looking for it,

1829
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:46,240
I'm not seeing it. It's

1830
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,960
Adam Curry: next to this on the
row with the bottom, yeah, yeah.

1831
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:50,020
I

1832
01:43:51,340 --> 01:43:53,380
John C Dvorak: never said it was
too gruesome. I didn't like it.

1833
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:58,000
No, you just said you liked it.
Well, I mean, I liked I didn't

1834
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:03,720
like it enough to pick it. Okay?
It's a cute piece in the funny

1835
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,360
way, because it's, you know,
it's essentially

1836
01:44:07,860 --> 01:44:09,780
Unknown: waltz, yes,

1837
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,400
Adam Curry: yes. Is that waltz
dancing? That video everyone's

1838
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,680
sending around the one

1839
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,840
John C Dvorak: that he's wearing
his halter top, yeah, that one

1840
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:23,000
that's a, like, a Texas gay
convention somewhere, Austin,

1841
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:23,540
yeah, is

1842
01:44:23,540 --> 01:44:24,200
Adam Curry: that wall? No,

1843
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,120
John C Dvorak: it doesn't. I
mean, I think somebody did a

1844
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:30,560
walls head on it, but, no, I
liked it, but it might as well

1845
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:31,400
be. His

1846
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:35,480
Adam Curry: whole family hates
him. All of all of Minnesota

1847
01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:38,720
hates him. They have, like,
Walt's dunk tanks and shoot the

1848
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,680
waltz head at the at the county
fairs, they don't like

1849
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:43,720
John C Dvorak: him. He didn't do
a very good job of picking that

1850
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:44,140
guy.

1851
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,160
Adam Curry: Or did they? It all
dwells. There you go. It all

1852
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,940
depends. It all depends. Well,
thank you, sir net Ned for

1853
01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:55,300
bringing us the artwork for 1691
we appreciate the work that all

1854
01:44:55,300 --> 01:44:58,360
of our artists do. You are you
are treasured. You are cherished

1855
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,320
here at the no agenda show you.
No agenda. Art generator.com,

1856
01:45:01,860 --> 01:45:05,700
another beautiful piece of time
and talent, the strap Paul

1857
01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:08,700
couture put together for us. So
many people work on this

1858
01:45:08,700 --> 01:45:12,120
podcast. We have so many good
producers. We don't need your

1859
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:17,760
Russian money. We've got enough
producers good to go. Now. Let's

1860
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:18,660
thank if

1861
01:45:18,780 --> 01:45:21,140
John C Dvorak: you're gonna send
it in. Send it in anonymously.

1862
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:24,320
Adam Curry: Well, there you go.
Let's thank Hey. Where'd my

1863
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,800
spreadsheet go? Oh, there it is.
Let's thank our executive and

1864
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:32,840
Associate Executive producers
for Episode 1692 we appreciate

1865
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:36,020
anyone who donates any amount of
value in return for the value

1866
01:45:36,020 --> 01:45:39,860
receive free of charge, no
hoops, no hurdles, no paywalls,

1867
01:45:39,860 --> 01:45:43,480
no premium content that you
can't get unless you pay up. Now

1868
01:45:43,480 --> 01:45:46,960
we give it to you all right up
front, and you just send back

1869
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,660
whatever it's worth to you.
That's that's how it works. And

1870
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,500
no agenda donations.com. You can
set up your sustaining

1871
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:56,260
donations, which we love, if you
just do something at a regular

1872
01:45:56,260 --> 01:45:59,080
interval. And of course, we
enjoy our executive and

1873
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,860
Associate Executive producers
who come in with bigger amounts,

1874
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:04,920
and for the privilege of that,
they get an actual title, which

1875
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,980
you can use anywhere that
credits are recognized in

1876
01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:10,680
Hollywood, people like imdb.com,
you can put it there if you

1877
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,620
don't have one, you can even
open it up, you'll see over 1000

1878
01:46:14,580 --> 01:46:17,760
no agenda producers in there.
$200 and above gets you an

1879
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,840
Associate Executive Producer
title, credit, and we read your

1880
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,780
note, 300 and above, executive
producer, and we read your note,

1881
01:46:23,780 --> 01:46:26,960
and we kick it off with
Anonymous from North Carolina,

1882
01:46:27,380 --> 01:46:34,340
who comes in with 1692, which
I'm thinking, should it? Should

1883
01:46:34,340 --> 01:46:36,800
be some coded number show? It's

1884
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:37,880
John C Dvorak: a show donation.

1885
01:46:37,940 --> 01:46:42,280
Adam Curry: Oh, it Oh, it's da.
That's how long has it been

1886
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,020
since you've had a show number
donation?

1887
01:46:44,440 --> 01:46:47,740
John C Dvorak: Yeah, at least
the months. And

1888
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,320
Adam Curry: anonymous says no
jingles, no karma, and I'm

1889
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:55,360
skipping the knighting and
peerage. Wow. I mean, that's

1890
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:56,260
okay. That came in

1891
01:46:56,260 --> 01:46:59,080
John C Dvorak: from stripe.
Nice. Well, thank

1892
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,140
Adam Curry: you very much
anonymous, and you are top of

1893
01:47:01,140 --> 01:47:05,100
the list, with the top executive
producership and the show number

1894
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:08,460
donation, which has been quite a
while. Thank you. We appreciate

1895
01:47:08,460 --> 01:47:08,700
it.

1896
01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:11,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, very
interesting to say the least.

1897
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:19,380
Fryer Freyja from The Hague that
comes in, is that right? Yeah.

1898
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:24,860
With 343, 75 Hi John and Adam.
Adam and John, this is my first

1899
01:47:24,860 --> 01:47:26,840
time donation. So please deduce
me.

1900
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,160
Unknown: You've been deduced

1901
01:47:33,380 --> 01:47:34,400
John C Dvorak: me. Blow out my
speech.

1902
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:38,120
Adam Curry: Sorry about that.
Yeah, sorry, sorry. I'll try and

1903
01:47:38,180 --> 01:47:39,080
I'll dial it. This is my

1904
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,320
John C Dvorak: first time
donation. Uh, greetings from

1905
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:48,160
fryah in Don hog. Future Dame
mooseton. Muston is moose town,

1906
01:47:48,580 --> 01:47:51,700
moustane in bull dyke.
Lowlandia,

1907
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,380
Adam Curry: future Dame moose
town, which is vegetable garden

1908
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,860
in pool dyke. Lowlandia, yeah,
bull dyke, that's

1909
01:47:59,860 --> 01:48:00,480
John C Dvorak: what I said,

1910
01:48:03,060 --> 01:48:04,620
Unknown: okay, yeah,

1911
01:48:04,620 --> 01:48:09,420
John C Dvorak: I got hit in the
mouth by Dame tuttola And Iris.

1912
01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:15,960
A big shout out to Iris. I call
out Dame to Tola for being a

1913
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,920
douchebag.

1914
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,120
Adam Curry: Uh oh, she's calling
her out now. Okay, yeah,

1915
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,100
John C Dvorak: she's in the in
the Bucky buddies, yes, the

1916
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,160
Bucky not a code here. I don't
understand, but it's funny. It's

1917
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,880
funny in Dutch, but something to
do with lesbians. I could, could

1918
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,460
you add me to the birthday list
tomorrow? Friday, the sixth is

1919
01:48:34,460 --> 01:48:38,540
my 55th birthday. So the three,
three, 3.33, added up exactly on

1920
01:48:38,540 --> 01:48:43,000
my birthday. 9669, can I have a
biscuit for my birthday?

1921
01:48:43,060 --> 01:48:45,580
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.

1922
01:48:46,780 --> 01:48:49,060
John C Dvorak: On the last show
I heard that there's another

1923
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:55,360
Dutch listener who are Carano,
who has his birthday tomorrow, a

1924
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,540
biscuit for him, too. They
always give me a biscuit on my

1925
01:48:58,540 --> 01:49:02,760
birthday, not a birthday
biscuit, and I hope to meet him

1926
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:07,380
one day in a meetup, because
connection is protection. I

1927
01:49:07,380 --> 01:49:10,620
really love the meetup. So they
love the meetups in Holland,

1928
01:49:10,620 --> 01:49:13,320
that's for sure. They sure do.
So sorry that I didn't have a

1929
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,320
chance to chat with you at the
meetup in Amsterdam because it

1930
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:19,680
was so damn crowded. Thought I
got every time a blast, though.

1931
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,880
Thank you for being there, and
congrats on your 60th birthday

1932
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,780
on this oh, well, before I
forget, a big shout out to Arno

1933
01:49:26,780 --> 01:49:33,020
from ampstelveen, oh, for being
a fellow zip warrior, and Sir

1934
01:49:33,020 --> 01:49:36,680
Hendrick for his awesome T
shirts. Thank you so much for

1935
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:41,500
the shows, for it is keeping me
sane. I always listen to the

1936
01:49:41,500 --> 01:49:45,280
show when I'm working in my
vegetable garden. Hence her name

1937
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,360
and me laughing out loud because
of your jokes on this show. Keep

1938
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:53,140
the others befuddled. Ha, ha,
thank you for your courage.

1939
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:59,920
Adam Curry: We go to Dan from
Epping New Hampshire. S.

1940
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,240
Switcheroo. He says, Hello, John
and Adam. I'm writing to wish a

1941
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,120
happy birthday, and as her
birthday gift, a final

1942
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:10,680
switcheroo donation for Angie to
finally claim her Dame hoods. He

1943
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,340
attached to county, I request
that she be named Dame little

1944
01:50:14,340 --> 01:50:18,420
Anne of Where the Red Fern
Grows. Angie is my beautiful

1945
01:50:18,420 --> 01:50:20,960
wife, and we were recently
married. Congratulations. She

1946
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,480
hit me in the mouth over a year
ago, and we started dating, and

1947
01:50:23,480 --> 01:50:25,940
I've slowly come to love
listening to the show together

1948
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:30,920
and overjoyed to give her a well
deserved title. I'd like to Yes.

1949
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,660
I'd like to request that she be
deduced.

1950
01:50:34,340 --> 01:50:36,080
Unknown: You've been deduced.

1951
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:39,680
Adam Curry: What? It's too

1952
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:40,780
John C Dvorak: loud. I

1953
01:50:40,780 --> 01:50:42,700
Adam Curry: keep turning it
down. It's still too loud. I

1954
01:50:42,700 --> 01:50:47,320
don't understand, by the way,
that's only on your mix. It's

1955
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,020
not that bad in the final but
the rest of the stuff is normal.

1956
01:50:50,260 --> 01:50:51,220
John C Dvorak: It's there's

1957
01:50:51,220 --> 01:50:54,280
Adam Curry: reasons. I'd like to
request that she'll be deduced

1958
01:50:54,340 --> 01:50:57,520
and have some baby making karma
for the round table. May she

1959
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:04,560
have salmon nigiri and a plate
of 12 lengua tacos. Thank you,

1960
01:51:04,860 --> 01:51:08,880
Dan. PS. Special thanks to T who
started the process of her no

1961
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,760
agenda Daming and contributed
greatly in her becoming,

1962
01:51:11,820 --> 01:51:14,640
becoming the dame that she is.
Well, of course, we'll do that.

1963
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:22,520
Unknown: You've got karma.

1964
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:27,320
John C Dvorak: Those are Tonga
tacos, by the way. Oh,

1965
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,860
Adam Curry: you wanted to know?
I'm happy to know. And

1966
01:51:30,860 --> 01:51:33,440
John C Dvorak: they typically
are delicious, because if you

1967
01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:39,140
know how to cook tongue, Dame, a
mama Susan's in Escondido,

1968
01:51:39,140 --> 01:51:44,560
California, 333, Hi, I'd like to
deduce my daughter, Julia beats

1969
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:51,880
you've been deduced Julia Beals
the birthday switcheroo. So she

1970
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:55,240
gets credit. Her birthday was
September 1, and mine is this

1971
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:59,200
Saturday. Hopefully they're both
on the list. Please send us both

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01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:06,780
birthday karma and add mariachi
music. Love and kisses. There we

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01:52:10,260 --> 01:52:11,280
Unknown: go.

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01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,340
Here we go. You've got karma.

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01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:26,540
Adam Curry: You ask, we deliver.
Michiel Buren is in flissingen

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01:52:26,540 --> 01:52:30,740
in the Netherlands, 333, dot 33
here's my long overduination.

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01:52:30,740 --> 01:52:33,620
This isn't my first one, but I
haven't asked for a deducing. So

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01:52:33,620 --> 01:52:35,840
if you could do this on this
one, that'd be nice.

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01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,320
Unknown: You've been deduced,

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01:52:41,480 --> 01:52:44,380
Adam Curry: and the show has
been valuable as always. The

1981
01:52:44,380 --> 01:52:47,620
last show, I especially like the
part about the strength through

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01:52:47,620 --> 01:52:52,060
joy. As a car guy, I also
recognize the term because the

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01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:55,720
Volkswagen Beetle was originally
named Kraft dur freudewagen,

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01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:57,880
strength through joy car.

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01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,380
John C Dvorak: That's that's a
little obscure I didn't know.

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01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:01,620
Well,

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01:53:01,620 --> 01:53:04,980
Adam Curry: of course, Hitler
did create the Volkswagen, as

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01:53:04,980 --> 01:53:09,540
the people's car, also known as
the KDF wagon, and part of the

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01:53:09,540 --> 01:53:15,000
KDF program used by the NSDAP to
make Nazis more joyful. So, yes,

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01:53:15,060 --> 01:53:18,240
the Nazis, those in Germany 33
to 45 did use the term

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01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:23,120
extensively, just so, you know,
I thought others might find that

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01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,780
interesting. NPR, thank you for
your courage and four more

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01:53:26,780 --> 01:53:30,260
years. Best wishes from me.
He'll buden, PS, good. L, sharp

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01:53:30,260 --> 01:53:31,820
and jingle always makes me
chuckle.

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01:53:36,020 --> 01:53:37,760
Unknown: R, E, s, p, i, C, T,

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01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:44,980
John C Dvorak: sir. Walkman.
Walkman in Louisville, or

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01:53:44,980 --> 01:53:47,740
Louisville, hard to say. I don't
know it's in Ohio, so I don't

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01:53:47,740 --> 01:53:50,800
know how to pronounce it
necessarily to pronounce it

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:56,440
anyway, 333, and keeping it
short and sweet, he writes, uh,

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01:53:56,440 --> 01:54:02,340
happy birthday. Adam, no
jingles, uh, Jace, GK, something

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01:54:02,340 --> 01:54:04,560
was that mean karma,

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01:54:04,620 --> 01:54:07,260
Adam Curry: no jingles, just
goat karma.

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01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,560
John C Dvorak: Jah, goat karma.
Duh, sir, welcome Duke of

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01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:15,660
Buckeye or Ohio. You've got

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01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:21,860
Adam Curry: karma. That's right,
we decode your messages on site.

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01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,180
Genevieve. Genevieve Wimberly is
in Liberty Lake, Washington,

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01:54:26,180 --> 01:54:31,280
313, 46 she says this is a row
of ducks plus today's show date

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01:54:31,340 --> 01:54:36,380
222, dot, 22 plus 91 dot, 24 to
celebrate the marriage of two

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01:54:36,380 --> 01:54:41,140
slaves, Kyle toig and Genevieve
Wemberly Wimberly getting

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01:54:41,140 --> 01:54:44,620
hitched on last Sunday's show
day is time for these newlyweds

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01:54:44,620 --> 01:54:47,920
to claim our seat at the round
table on our wedding day. Yes,

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01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,760
it's a four ring day. Big thanks
the best man, Brian Maloney, for

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01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,040
hitting us both in the mouth and
sending us on a path toward

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01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:57,040
knighthood to proudly be a
couple that no agendas together

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01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:00,780
and stays together. Of course,
we never had a fight. A quick

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01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:04,020
plug for sustaining donations
their surefire path from slave

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01:55:04,020 --> 01:55:07,200
to royalty. We'll be celebrating
our nuptials as well as becoming

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01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,440
a night in a dame by staying in
a castle on the mountain, as one

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01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,740
should baby making karma,
please, and a smokin hot wife

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01:55:13,740 --> 01:55:17,880
jingle followed by, it's true
for the bride and for the bride

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01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,780
and groom. And Kyle would like
to be dubbed sir spook of

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01:55:20,780 --> 01:55:23,600
Spokane, protector of
infrastructure. And Jen would

2023
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:27,200
like to be Dame Jen with a G
protector of women's vaginas.

2024
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:33,800
She is at OB, GYN, no, dude,
pussy please. Okay, at the round

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01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:38,600
table, we'd like patagong. Oh,
what is this? Did I order this?

2026
01:55:39,500 --> 01:55:44,560
We'd like Patagonian toothfish,
toothfish, French crepes and

2027
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:48,520
champagne, please. Well, I don't
have any champagne here because

2028
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:52,120
they can't legally do that. So
they give you a what Cava. That

2029
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:56,440
what they do here in, uh,
outside of the Champagne region,

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01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:57,700
cava, uh,

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01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:03,540
John C Dvorak: cava, Spanish,
yes. Well, this Cava still

2032
01:56:03,540 --> 01:56:05,100
imported. Adam

2033
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:07,800
Adam Curry: question, where are
you in Mexico for your birthday,

2034
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,920
just north of Puerto Vallarta,
where the love boat docks? We

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01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:15,960
leave for Sayulita on Thursday's
show the fifth producers comment

2036
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,420
thinking about Trump's fall
endorsement. What about Dave

2037
01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:22,400
Chappelle? No, I don't think
that. I don't think Dave

2038
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,840
Chappelle will will move the
needle that much. Thank you very

2039
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,780
much for your donations.
Congratulations. You will be at

2040
01:56:29,780 --> 01:56:32,660
the round table for your
knighting and Daming, and here's

2041
01:56:32,660 --> 01:56:33,560
what you're requesting.

2042
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:47,620
Unknown: You've got Parma,

2043
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,780
John C Dvorak: that's true. Now
we have Dame Astrid, the art

2044
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:56,800
Dame Astrid, oh, the arch
Duchess and Archduke of Japan,

2045
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,860
and all the disputed islands in
the Japan Sea. I think it's

2046
01:56:59,860 --> 01:57:04,560
coming in from both of them in
Tokyo. Dear Adam, happy

2047
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,380
birthday. The nice thing about
turning 60 is that one can

2048
01:57:07,380 --> 01:57:12,720
finally say, Get off my lawn
with a smile, great confidence

2049
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:17,760
and with no regret. Much Love
Dame Astrid plus Sir Mark, yes,

2050
01:57:17,820 --> 01:57:18,660
the arch

2051
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:22,460
Adam Curry: 6260 of Japan and
all the disputed islands in the

2052
01:57:22,460 --> 01:57:26,540
Japan Sea. Next, Associate
Executive Producer 250 the

2053
01:57:26,540 --> 01:57:29,660
Harper team from Temecula,
California. Is that I pronounce

2054
01:57:29,660 --> 01:57:32,480
it Temecula, yep. Please feel
free to shorten this if it's too

2055
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,000
long, it is my husband and I
never miss an episode. The

2056
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,880
Harper team, founded by Jason
and Rachel Harper, has been a

2057
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,420
top producing husband and wife
real estate team in Southern

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01:57:40,420 --> 01:57:45,820
California since 2000 selling
over 1400 homes. The Harper team

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01:57:45,820 --> 01:57:48,340
has deep roots in Southern
California. We're proud to add

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01:57:48,340 --> 01:57:51,880
the great State of Tennessee.
Since 2021 we've assisted an

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01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,520
average of three families a
month in relocating from

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01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,460
Southern California to the
greater Nashville area. Well,

2063
01:57:57,460 --> 01:58:01,140
this is a good service.
Interesting. You can contact

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01:58:01,140 --> 01:58:05,100
them at Harpers, at Harper Home
team.com or visit their website

2065
01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:08,640
at Harper Home team.com and they
are happy to help you find the

2066
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:11,580
perfect home or get top dollar
for your current one. Well,

2067
01:58:11,580 --> 01:58:14,820
thank you. Get the hell out of
California. Yes. Go to go to

2068
01:58:14,820 --> 01:58:17,460
Tennessee, for sure. Thank you.
Harper team.

2069
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:20,960
John C Dvorak: Eli, the coffee
guy's up. He's in bensonville,

2070
01:58:21,020 --> 01:58:28,640
Illinois, 20905 Eli says, over
the weekend, we visited the

2071
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:32,660
Bristol Wisconsin Renaissance
Fair, and a lot of people had

2072
01:58:32,660 --> 01:58:39,140
some really cool medieval garb.
There were jousts, jugglers,

2073
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:45,280
acrobats, magicians and furries,
yay. This seems to be the most

2074
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,520
popular with the teenagers.
There costumes, yes, but not

2075
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:52,840
very period authentic. All
performers operate on the value

2076
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:57,340
for value system, which made me
think it was it got a cup out,

2077
01:58:57,940 --> 01:59:00,960
which made me think of the show,
especially with so many dressed

2078
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:04,560
as nights for producers who
support value for value in all

2079
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:09,720
his forms, visit gig, gigawatt
Coffee roasters.com use code ITM

2080
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,440
for 20% off your order stay
caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy,

2081
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:18,420
Adam Curry: ITM 20 is the code
ITM 20. Pat Eckert in Rochester,

2082
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:22,880
you said ITM No. Pat Eckert in
Rochester, Minnesota, $200

2083
01:59:23,420 --> 01:59:26,240
Associate Executive producership
This. Oh, it's a switcheroo.

2084
01:59:26,540 --> 01:59:30,620
This donation is for Alex
Eckert. Let me change that right

2085
01:59:30,620 --> 01:59:36,140
away. Alex, okay, taken care of
who is leaving this year to go

2086
01:59:36,140 --> 01:59:40,100
to school in La Crosse,
Wisconsin for the firefighting

2087
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:43,900
program. There you go. That's a
young guy I'm talking I can't

2088
01:59:43,900 --> 01:59:47,380
believe it's been 18 years
already. We are proud of you.

2089
01:59:47,740 --> 01:59:51,580
Can you give all the no agenda
kids leaving home this year? Can

2090
01:59:51,580 --> 01:59:54,160
you give all the no agenda kids
leaving home this year? Make it

2091
01:59:54,220 --> 01:59:59,920
Oh, make a ton of money and buy
your parents cool crap karma. I.

2092
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:04,020
We all As parents, we all wish
for that. We all hope our our

2093
02:00:04,020 --> 02:00:06,840
kids are able to go off and be
so successful they can give us

2094
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:11,040
cool crap. So for, oh, for
three, thank you, John and Adam.

2095
02:00:11,460 --> 02:00:12,840
And here's the karma.

2096
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,180
Unknown: You've got karma

2097
02:00:16,860 --> 02:00:18,540
Adam Curry: by your parents,
cool crap.

2098
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,800
John C Dvorak: And last on the
list is Linda Lou patkin in

2099
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:25,520
Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks,
and she asked for jobs karma,

2100
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:29,600
and says that for competitive
edge, go to imagemakers,

2101
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:33,080
inc.com, for all your executive
resume and job search needs,

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02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:38,000
that's image makers. Inc, with a
k.com or just find Linda Lou

2103
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:43,000
Dutchess of jobs and writer of
resumes on the pod producer

2104
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:44,320
list, jobs,

2105
02:00:44,500 --> 02:00:48,700
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

2106
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:54,820
Adam Curry: And that concludes
our executive and Associate

2107
02:00:54,820 --> 02:00:58,660
Executive producers for Episode
1692, thank you all so much.

2108
02:00:58,780 --> 02:01:01,680
We'll be thanking the rest of
our producers, $50 and above in

2109
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:05,640
our second segment. As always,
we really would appreciate it if

2110
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:08,880
you in addition to these great
donations, if you consider a

2111
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:12,420
sustaining donation, if that's
all you that you feel is

2112
02:01:12,420 --> 02:01:15,420
valuable to you, that's good
too. If that's all you can

2113
02:01:15,420 --> 02:01:19,140
afford, that's fantastic. And be
$5 a month, $5 a week, $5 a

2114
02:01:19,140 --> 02:01:22,580
show. Go to no agenda.
Donations.com support the show,

2115
02:01:22,580 --> 02:01:25,580
because we don't have any
Russian money here. And thank

2116
02:01:25,580 --> 02:01:28,400
you for producing 1692 our
formula

2117
02:01:28,460 --> 02:01:32,360
Unknown: is this, we go out, we
get people in the mouth.

2118
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:40,780
Us, shut

2119
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:54,100
Adam Curry: up. All right, I
have, well, there's, I have

2120
02:01:54,640 --> 02:02:04,500
different stuff, just a just a
quickie, because this has been

2121
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:11,700
one of our staples for so long
on the show, then maybe we'll

2122
02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:16,560
try one more time, one more time
to see if the Department of

2123
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:21,260
Homeland Security will consider
licensing our excellent Jeff

2124
02:02:21,260 --> 02:02:23,000
Smith jingle DHS has

2125
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:26,720
Unknown: designated September 25
as if you see something, say

2126
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:31,160
something Awareness Day, also
known as hashtag seesay day on

2127
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:34,700
September 25 and year round,
stay prepared to identify the

2128
02:02:34,700 --> 02:02:37,760
signs. Report suspicious
activity to local authorities

2129
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:41,140
and help prevent terrorism
related crime. One tip could

2130
02:02:41,140 --> 02:02:46,780
make the difference. Learn more
by visiting dhs.gov/see say

2131
02:02:49,900 --> 02:02:51,820
Adam Curry: something. It's so
good.

2132
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,740
John C Dvorak: I know it's
crazy, giving it away. Yes, yes,

2133
02:02:56,980 --> 02:03:01,320
you just want some credit here a
couple of clips that backs up

2134
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:03,960
your thesis that you always like
to bring out, where the New York

2135
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,540
banker thinks that all this
immigration is working out.

2136
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:09,540
Adam Curry: Oh well, it's not
just the New York banker. It's

2137
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:10,860
all the New York Bankers.

2138
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:12,840
John C Dvorak: It's all the
bankers. So here's New York

2139
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:16,860
banker. I got two clips that
kind of just goes along that

2140
02:03:16,860 --> 02:03:18,420
line of thinking. The US

2141
02:03:18,420 --> 02:03:21,260
Unknown: is experiencing the
largest immigration surged since

2142
02:03:21,260 --> 02:03:25,160
the great wave of the late 1800s
the Congressional Budget Office

2143
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:29,960
says an overwhelming majority,
around 6.5 million, are illegal

2144
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:31,700
immigrants. There were fewer

2145
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:34,760
babies born in the United States
last year, less than 3.6

2146
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,900
million. Then there were illegal
immigrants coming into this

2147
02:03:38,900 --> 02:03:40,100
country. Population

2148
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:44,140
researcher Steve Mosher says 10%
of those babies are the babies

2149
02:03:44,140 --> 02:03:45,520
of illegal immigrants.

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02:03:47,260 --> 02:03:51,160
I'm all in favor of more
children. All right, I'm all in

2151
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:55,660
favor of population growth. I
think a population decline leads

2152
02:03:55,660 --> 02:03:59,080
to economic collapse. It leads
to societal collapse.

2153
02:03:59,140 --> 02:04:02,400
Mosher says this immigration may
help the US with its

2154
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,700
historically low fertility rate,
but he says it's better for

2155
02:04:05,700 --> 02:04:09,480
citizens to have more babies
than illegal immigrants. Census

2156
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:12,660
Bureau data suggests most
illegal immigrants are young,

2157
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,900
have a low level of education
and are ready to work. These

2158
02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:19,020
immigrants compete with native
foreign Americans for low paying

2159
02:04:19,020 --> 02:04:22,220
jobs, and this is likely to keep
wages relatively low.

2160
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,700
Adam Curry: Yes, that's the
whole idea. It's working,

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02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,140
John C Dvorak: from the sounds
of this report, it sure is. Of

2162
02:04:30,140 --> 02:04:33,080
course, it would be nice if we
have babies, but nobody wants to

2163
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:36,020
do that. No. So here we go with
part two.

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02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:39,500
Unknown: The jobs most commonly
worked by illegal immigrants are

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as construction workers,
housekeepers, cooks and

2166
02:04:42,580 --> 02:04:45,400
janitors. The overwhelming
majority come from Latin

2167
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:49,300
American countries like
Venezuela, Mexico and Honduras.

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02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:53,440
Many are also from China,
Russia, India or Africa. Their

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02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:58,120
top destinations are California,
Texas, New York, New Jersey and

2170
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Florida. The Congressional
Budget. Office estimates the

2171
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:05,520
migrant surge will boost federal
revenues by 1.2 trillion over a

2172
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:09,780
decade. It says the surge will
boost economic activity and the

2173
02:05:09,780 --> 02:05:12,360
migrants themselves will pay
taxes.

2174
02:05:13,980 --> 02:05:16,620
Adam Curry: Don't worry, they'll
pay taxes. Well, this brings me

2175
02:05:16,620 --> 02:05:18,960
to I should mention

2176
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,680
John C Dvorak: that they left
out the other job opportunities

2177
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:24,320
for them, which is apartment

2178
02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:31,460
Adam Curry: management, managing
apartments. Yeah, if that's now

2179
02:05:31,460 --> 02:05:36,080
spread to Chicago, isn't she,
the Venezuelans, supposedly,

2180
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:39,380
John C Dvorak: but there's, you
know, well, yes, I had a clip

2181
02:05:39,380 --> 02:05:42,220
about some guy threatening them
with, yeah, the black guy, the

2182
02:05:42,220 --> 02:05:45,640
black guy in the car, yeah, the
black guy with the switches,

2183
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:51,820
which is a rigged Glock, yeah,
and yes, there's been, you know,

2184
02:05:51,820 --> 02:05:55,000
the the actual evidence of this
is, is scant.

2185
02:05:56,140 --> 02:06:00,040
Adam Curry: Well, just That's,
oh, there you go, producers, we

2186
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:03,360
need the evidence. Get into
those apartment buildings, let

2187
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:09,420
us know what's going on. Now,
this baby thing is a is a point

2188
02:06:09,420 --> 02:06:15,900
of propaganda, anti propaganda,
from the from the Democrat run

2189
02:06:16,020 --> 02:06:20,840
mainstream media, which is all
of it. And sorry to do this, but

2190
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,480
I do need to bring in joy Reid,
because she's, of course, still

2191
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:28,580
the spokes hole for MSNBC. She's
so good at it. And you know,

2192
02:06:28,580 --> 02:06:31,880
whenever you're talking about
babies, if you're talking about

2193
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:36,140
American babies, then you're a
dick basically, then you're just

2194
02:06:36,140 --> 02:06:41,140
a douchebag. And she actually
has a name for it, and it's not

2195
02:06:41,140 --> 02:06:45,220
just the people. Obviously,
she's talking about JD Vance,

2196
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:49,840
because He's weird. But also
about the

2197
02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:51,700
John C Dvorak: count, no,

2198
02:06:51,700 --> 02:06:55,900
Adam Curry: it doesn't count.
Also about the podcasts that the

2199
02:06:55,900 --> 02:07:04,080
President is going on. You know,
he's been on Theo Vaughn, I like

2200
02:07:04,740 --> 02:07:06,540
John C Dvorak: everything he was
freed

2201
02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:10,740
Adam Curry: megs, Freedman.
Friedman, yeah. And, and here

2202
02:07:10,740 --> 02:07:11,760
you go. Listen to this. Well,

2203
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:14,700
Unknown: if it's a day that ends
in why, that means yet another

2204
02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:17,520
clip of Donald Trump's running
mate, Senator JD Vance, has

2205
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,360
resurfaced. And folks, if you
thought it couldn't get any

2206
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:23,600
weirder. Think again. There it
is. Take a listen to comments

2207
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:27,740
that he made back in September
2021 when asked about where he

2208
02:07:27,740 --> 02:07:31,580
thinks gender and racial
resentment come from.

2209
02:07:31,700 --> 02:07:35,900
To me, what it is is sort of a
value system to replace the fact

2210
02:07:35,900 --> 02:07:38,180
that they're all fundamentally
atheist or agnostic. They have

2211
02:07:38,180 --> 02:07:42,940
no real value system. Their only
value system is achieve in a

2212
02:07:42,940 --> 02:07:47,800
very conventional way, and so
the idea that somehow they're

2213
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:52,480
pursuing racial or gender equity
is like the value system that

2214
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,700
gives their life meaning. Well,
of course, they all find that

2215
02:07:54,700 --> 02:07:57,400
that value system leads to
misery, leads to unhappiness.

2216
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:02,820
Clearly, this value set has made
me a miserable person who can't

2217
02:08:02,820 --> 02:08:05,460
have kids because I already, you
know, passed the biological

2218
02:08:05,460 --> 02:08:08,400
period when it was possible, and
I live in a 1200 square foot

2219
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:12,240
apartment in New York, and I pay
$5,000 a month for it, but I'm

2220
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:16,440
really better than these other
people. What I'm gonna do is

2221
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:20,100
project my like, racial and
gender sensitivities on the rest

2222
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:21,140
of them. I mean,

2223
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:23,840
what? Seriously?

2224
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:27,920
I mean, did anybody, anybody
from the Trump camp, met this

2225
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:31,880
guy? But I guess it isn't too
surprising.

2226
02:08:32,420 --> 02:08:34,820
Adam Curry: So then she
introduces a term, which I think

2227
02:08:34,820 --> 02:08:37,100
we need to be on top of, What

2228
02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:38,840
John C Dvorak: is her problem?
To what he said,

2229
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:43,960
Adam Curry: she's just laughing
for laughing sake, but it's a

2230
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:49,600
setup to discredit men. Hello,
and not just men, but the

2231
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:56,140
manosphere. Wait, manosphere.
Where's the manosphere? The

2232
02:08:56,140 --> 02:08:58,480
Unknown: trove of unearthed
comments from Vance, all seem to

2233
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:02,160
have one thing in common. They
all vilify women who don't have

2234
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:06,300
kids, specifically biological
kids, which may sound odd to

2235
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:09,300
those of us on earth one, but
it's actually a popular

2236
02:09:09,300 --> 02:09:13,260
sentiment in something called
the manosphere. The manosphere

2237
02:09:13,260 --> 02:09:16,740
is basically a network of online
communities, websites, blogs,

2238
02:09:16,740 --> 02:09:20,720
forums and podcasts, podcasts
that all promote masculinity,

2239
02:09:20,780 --> 02:09:25,100
misogyny and anti feminism, they
are obsessed with birth rates

2240
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:28,040
and the idea that women should
be nothing more than baby

2241
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:32,120
makers. Only job should be
taking care of the home and

2242
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:39,200
raising children. Praised a 2017
report on families written by

2243
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:44,800
the architects of project 2025
the introduction to this report,

2244
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:48,340
calling it admirable, and should
trump and Vance win the White

2245
02:09:48,340 --> 02:09:51,940
House, these ideas as long with
the along with those of the

2246
02:09:51,940 --> 02:09:54,880
manosphere, could become a
reality for the rest of us,

2247
02:09:55,060 --> 02:09:58,360
something we know because their
buddies wrote it all down in

2248
02:09:58,360 --> 02:09:59,920
Project 2025 the.

2249
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:00,720
Man, the

2250
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:02,340
Adam Curry: manosphere, baby. I

2251
02:10:02,340 --> 02:10:04,260
John C Dvorak: didn't remember
that word being in the project

2252
02:10:04,260 --> 02:10:06,060
2025, manuscript. It

2253
02:10:06,060 --> 02:10:09,360
Adam Curry: is now the
manosphere. We are part of the

2254
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:14,220
manosphere. It used to be toxic
masculinity, yeah. Are you a man

2255
02:10:14,220 --> 02:10:17,040
John C Dvorak: or toxic
masculinity? Are we toxically

2256
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:21,380
masculine? The two of us, I
would hope so kind of old to be

2257
02:10:21,380 --> 02:10:26,540
toxically masculine, and I'm
catching up. Does that count?

2258
02:10:26,540 --> 02:10:26,720
I'm

2259
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:32,300
Adam Curry: catching up the
manosphere. The manosphere,

2260
02:10:32,300 --> 02:10:37,160
yeah, that's it. It's it's Tim
pool, the Joe Rogan, no agenda

2261
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:40,900
show. I'm just inserting us into
the big names. Theo Vaughn with

2262
02:10:40,900 --> 02:10:44,320
the manosphere. Man, we got
podcasts. They're coming for

2263
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:48,400
podcasts, by the way. Have you
noticed there's ever since Trump

2264
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:51,340
started going on all these
podcasts? They're coming for

2265
02:10:51,340 --> 02:10:55,480
podcasters. Podcast, no good
man. Oh, sphere, oh, wait,

2266
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:58,960
here's Alex. Alex Wagner, MSNBC,
again tonight.

2267
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,500
Unknown: JD Vance spoke at an
event for the conservative group

2268
02:11:01,500 --> 02:11:05,160
turning points USA, which
supports Donald Trump. Trump,

2269
02:11:05,220 --> 02:11:07,740
meanwhile, is sitting for a town
hall this evening on his

2270
02:11:07,740 --> 02:11:13,140
preferred network, Fox News. And
even though Trump speaks almost

2271
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:17,100
exclusively to friendly outlets,
he has broadened his horizons

2272
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:20,280
this election cycle, the New
York Times reports this week on

2273
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:23,840
Trump's new strategy to court
what is being called the man

2274
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:24,680
overseer.

2275
02:11:24,860 --> 02:11:26,960
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

2276
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:27,200
hey,

2277
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,560
Adam Curry: hold on a second. I
like manosphere now it's man

2278
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,600
overseer. Consolation

2279
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:35,420
Unknown: of YouTubers,
pranksters and streamers with

2280
02:11:35,420 --> 02:11:37,220
massive online followings.

2281
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:41,500
Adam Curry: If you're a
podcaster, it's manosphere. If

2282
02:11:41,500 --> 02:11:43,720
you're a streamer, it's
manoverse.

2283
02:11:43,780 --> 02:11:47,680
Unknown: The aim here is to
target young men and to exploit

2284
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:51,040
and deepen the existing gender
divide between Trump supporters

2285
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:55,240
and Harris supporters. And these
streamers in the man overseer

2286
02:11:55,300 --> 02:11:58,240
all of whom are young white men.
They have hosted Trump on their

2287
02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:00,960
online channels for what might
technically be called

2288
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:05,220
interviews, but really defy any
sort of journalistic

2289
02:12:05,220 --> 02:12:06,780
characteristics. Oh,

2290
02:12:06,780 --> 02:12:09,540
Adam Curry: they're not really
interviews. They defy any

2291
02:12:09,540 --> 02:12:12,900
journalistic integrity or
whatever. So

2292
02:12:12,900 --> 02:12:16,440
John C Dvorak: yeah, Donna Bash
is much better at the hard

2293
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:19,020
questions than some podcaster.

2294
02:12:19,140 --> 02:12:22,940
Adam Curry: So I have one clip
from Lex Fridman with Trump.

2295
02:12:22,940 --> 02:12:27,740
Have you noticed that Trump does
mirroring in these podcasts?

2296
02:12:27,740 --> 02:12:27,920
Yes,

2297
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,920
John C Dvorak: he does mirroring
a lot. So it was brought up by

2298
02:12:32,300 --> 02:12:35,600
Tyrus on the guy I wish should
taking the clip, because it was

2299
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:36,260
quite good, right?

2300
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:39,380
Adam Curry: Tyrus part of the
manoverse, because obvious, he's

2301
02:12:39,380 --> 02:12:40,300
not white, and

2302
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:44,380
John C Dvorak: you know, he says
he's not, he's honorary,

2303
02:12:44,380 --> 02:12:49,480
honorary man. He's honorary
white, uh, Trump lover, yeah, he

2304
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:52,720
goes off on Lex Freeman is
saying, How can this guy talk

2305
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:56,980
any slower? I wanted to, yeah,
kill him, you know. And went on

2306
02:12:56,980 --> 02:12:59,980
and on about, it's quite funny,
yeah, and

2307
02:12:59,980 --> 02:13:03,660
Adam Curry: so you saw it with
Theo Vaughn, Trump was totally

2308
02:13:03,660 --> 02:13:08,220
mirroring Theo Vaughn and with
Lex Friedman, it was Trump was

2309
02:13:08,220 --> 02:13:13,620
almost, you know, was he
breathing? Wow, it was we got

2310
02:13:13,620 --> 02:13:17,220
really slow. And this is the one
clip I pulled. But

2311
02:13:17,220 --> 02:13:21,020
Unknown: a lot of big people
went to that island, but

2312
02:13:21,020 --> 02:13:23,660
fortunately, I was not one of
them. It's

2313
02:13:23,660 --> 02:13:28,160
just very strange for a lot of
people that the list of clients

2314
02:13:28,160 --> 02:13:30,680
that went to the island has not
been made public.

2315
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:35,180
Yeah, it's, it's very
interesting, isn't it probably

2316
02:13:35,180 --> 02:13:36,020
will be, by the

2317
02:13:36,740 --> 02:13:38,660
way, so if you're able to,
you'll be,

2318
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:41,680
yeah, certainly take a look at
it now. Kennedy is interesting

2319
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:44,980
because it's so many years ago.
You know, they do that for

2320
02:13:44,980 --> 02:13:48,460
danger too, because, you know,
endangering certain people, etc,

2321
02:13:48,460 --> 02:13:54,160
etc. So Kennedy is very
different from the Epstein

2322
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,160
thing. But, yeah, I'd be
inclined to do the Epstein. I'd

2323
02:13:57,160 --> 02:13:58,300
have no problem with it.

2324
02:13:58,840 --> 02:13:59,140
Yeah,

2325
02:13:59,980 --> 02:14:02,460
Adam Curry: no problem. All
right, yeah, another reason to

2326
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:05,040
vote for Trump. Answer, there
another reason to vote for

2327
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:08,220
Trump. He's gonna release the
alien

2328
02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:11,640
John C Dvorak: files. Yeah,
Kennedy files, yeah, everything,

2329
02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:12,180
yeah. I, where

2330
02:14:12,180 --> 02:14:13,380
Adam Curry: have I heard that
before?

2331
02:14:13,740 --> 02:14:18,240
John C Dvorak: We'll see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have the

2332
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:21,680
because you bring Trump in just
to balance things off. I do have

2333
02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:26,060
Harris's Small Business speech,
which I want to play. Yes. This

2334
02:14:26,060 --> 02:14:30,140
was I have a question to ask you
about. This is a two parter.

2335
02:14:30,140 --> 02:14:31,340
Here she is in part one.

2336
02:14:31,580 --> 02:14:34,160
Adam Curry: Make sure I have the
right one. Yeah, this is kind of

2337
02:14:34,160 --> 02:14:37,220
her whole economic policy that
she announced with this. Yeah,

2338
02:14:37,220 --> 02:14:38,480
John C Dvorak: right. In a
nutshell,

2339
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:40,660
Unknown: yeah. Vice President
Kamala Harris spoke in New

2340
02:14:40,660 --> 02:14:44,440
Hampshire. Wednesday afternoon,
she revealed a new part of her

2341
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:48,820
economic plan focusing on small
businesses. Jason Blair brings

2342
02:14:48,820 --> 02:14:49,900
us the latest

2343
02:14:49,900 --> 02:14:53,440
in Portsmouth. Vice President
Kamala Harris proposed her new

2344
02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:57,220
plan to quote support small
businesses and invest in

2345
02:14:57,220 --> 02:14:58,300
entrepreneurs.

2346
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:02,580
Part of my plan is we will.
Expand the tax deduction for

2347
02:15:02,580 --> 02:15:09,780
startups to $50,000 second, my
plan will help existing small

2348
02:15:09,780 --> 02:15:15,180
businesses grow. We will provide
low and no interest loans to

2349
02:15:15,180 --> 02:15:17,820
small businesses that want to
expand. She

2350
02:15:17,820 --> 02:15:21,200
says she wants to make it easier
to open a small business by

2351
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:25,400
removing hurdles and creating
support. And her campaign says

2352
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:29,000
Harris has the goal of creating
25 million new business

2353
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:32,960
applications in her first term
as president, if elected.

2354
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:38,480
John C Dvorak: All right, well,
so she's going to do throw some

2355
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,980
money in tax benefits. It's not
like you're gonna actually get

2356
02:15:41,980 --> 02:15:42,820
any cash. No,

2357
02:15:42,820 --> 02:15:45,400
Adam Curry: you actually have to
be a small business that is

2358
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:48,280
making profit to take

2359
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:51,340
John C Dvorak: any benefit, any
benefit. Yeah, but here's the

2360
02:15:51,340 --> 02:15:53,740
part that gets me as a part two,
there's a thing in here that

2361
02:15:53,740 --> 02:15:56,980
just, I just befuddled by, I'm
gonna ask you. Okay,

2362
02:15:57,100 --> 02:16:00,640
Unknown: according to AP, since
Biden took office, about 19

2363
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:04,260
million of those applications
have been filed, and the Granite

2364
02:16:04,260 --> 02:16:09,660
State is how many 19 million of
those applications have been

2365
02:16:09,660 --> 02:16:13,680
filed, and the Granite State is
a bit of a deviation from her

2366
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:17,160
recent focus on battleground
states such as Michigan,

2367
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:21,680
Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Poll
averages for New Hampshire are

2368
02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:26,540
showing Harris up by 5% over
former President Trump. The

2369
02:16:26,540 --> 02:16:29,900
Trump campaign responded to
Harris's announcement to help

2370
02:16:29,900 --> 02:16:33,800
small businesses, saying in a
statement, quote, why hasn't she

2371
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:37,580
done it during her four years as
Vice President? After the

2372
02:16:37,580 --> 02:16:40,040
Portsmouth event, Harris will
travel to Pittsburgh,

2373
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:43,120
Pennsylvania, where she is
expected to stay until the

2374
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:47,740
debate between her and Trump on
September 10. Trump is also

2375
02:16:47,740 --> 02:16:51,760
visiting Pennsylvania this week.
On Wednesday, he'll be appearing

2376
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:56,080
at a Fox News Town Hall in
Harrisburg. Okay,

2377
02:16:56,500 --> 02:16:57,460
Adam Curry: what's your
question?

2378
02:16:57,879 --> 02:16:59,919
John C Dvorak: What is this
application they're talking

2379
02:16:59,919 --> 02:17:00,659
about? I

2380
02:17:00,659 --> 02:17:03,119
Adam Curry: looked for that's
funny. You say that. I'm like,

2381
02:17:03,119 --> 02:17:06,959
Hey, how can I get in on this?
Do you need an application?

2382
02:17:07,499 --> 02:17:10,499
John C Dvorak: You just either
do it or you don't. Don't. Yeah,

2383
02:17:10,499 --> 02:17:10,619
you

2384
02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:13,260
Adam Curry: just hang out a
shingle. You're good to go reply

2385
02:17:13,260 --> 02:17:13,380
to

2386
02:17:13,380 --> 02:17:16,800
John C Dvorak: anybody the Small
Business Administration to start

2387
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:19,500
a small business? Yeah, she
makes it sound like you got to

2388
02:17:19,500 --> 02:17:22,640
go through jump through hoops to
start a small business. You

2389
02:17:22,639 --> 02:17:24,679
Adam Curry: don't. That's
America. That's the beauty of

2390
02:17:24,679 --> 02:17:27,139
it. You just say, here I am.
Adam curry,

2391
02:17:27,319 --> 02:17:30,259
John C Dvorak: how does she know
that? As far as she's concerned,

2392
02:17:30,259 --> 02:17:32,719
everything goes through the
government. Well, that's what

2393
02:17:32,719 --> 02:17:33,439
she wants.

2394
02:17:34,820 --> 02:17:38,300
Adam Curry: Exactly what she had
a similar clip, but also I had

2395
02:17:38,300 --> 02:17:43,780
the name of her economic policy.
Did you not catch the names

2396
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:45,100
she's branding it?

2397
02:17:45,880 --> 02:17:48,220
John C Dvorak: You know what?
Night I did not catch it. I'll

2398
02:17:48,220 --> 02:17:49,600
just play a little bit of this

2399
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:52,120
Unknown: as a late comer to the
race. Kamala Harris has been

2400
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:56,140
rolling out her agenda piece by
piece, focused on what she's

2401
02:17:56,140 --> 02:17:58,840
branded the opportunity economy.
There

2402
02:17:58,840 --> 02:18:01,440
Adam Curry: it is, the
opportunity, the opportunity

2403
02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:04,680
economy, okay? So

2404
02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:08,700
John C Dvorak: the opportunity
economy, so the regulations, so

2405
02:18:08,700 --> 02:18:11,520
Kamala an opportunity to fill
out more forms.

2406
02:18:13,559 --> 02:18:16,799
Adam Curry: Kamala went to
Pennsylvania, and a couple

2407
02:18:16,799 --> 02:18:20,959
things happened. First,
President Biden was there as a

2408
02:18:20,959 --> 02:18:23,599
surrogate to to help her out.

2409
02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:25,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, and,

2410
02:18:25,880 --> 02:18:27,260
Adam Curry: and, I don't know if
this

2411
02:18:27,260 --> 02:18:30,080
Unknown: helped you no longer be
the manufacturing capital world.

2412
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:33,380
Where the hell is that written?
We are the greatest

2413
02:18:33,380 --> 02:18:36,620
manufacturing city or county in
the world, state in the world.

2414
02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:48,580
Remain that way. Eric dean of
the ironworker,

2415
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:50,320
Adam Curry: I love that the
people are just clapping.

2416
02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:52,660
Bricklayer, yeah. Bricklayer.

2417
02:18:57,639 --> 02:19:05,699
Unknown: SEIU, his dad was
great. And Jimmy Williams, the

2418
02:19:05,699 --> 02:19:10,919
painters Allied Trades. And then
his dad, his dad's a really good

2419
02:19:10,919 --> 02:19:11,399
man.

2420
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:12,960
Holy crap.

2421
02:19:13,500 --> 02:19:15,360
John C Dvorak: Jimmy Williams,
who has

2422
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:20,240
Adam Curry: the nuclear codes,
who has them? And now I have a

2423
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:21,200
question for you. There's

2424
02:19:21,199 --> 02:19:22,939
John C Dvorak: more stuff into
you. I mean, I'm glad you got

2425
02:19:22,939 --> 02:19:26,779
that clip. I didn't get any, but
he was just off the rails. It

2426
02:19:26,780 --> 02:19:29,360
Adam Curry: was the real Biden.
I mean, he's still he's the real

2427
02:19:29,360 --> 02:19:32,600
Biden is out there trying to get
something done to show that he's

2428
02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:36,560
still alive, which is all that
he is. I mean, this guy, this

2429
02:19:36,620 --> 02:19:42,340
this person, cannot be, uh,
running our government. You

2430
02:19:42,340 --> 02:19:45,160
know, do you think that that
there's still, let's say, how

2431
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:50,200
about this? What if Trump wins
the election, Kamala could still

2432
02:19:50,200 --> 02:19:53,260
pull a quick switcheroo? Do the
25th amendment be the first

2433
02:19:53,260 --> 02:19:55,300
female black president for two
months?

2434
02:19:58,960 --> 02:20:01,020
John C Dvorak: That would be
funny. Like, why

2435
02:20:01,020 --> 02:20:03,420
Adam Curry: not? She could be in
the history but she's crazy

2436
02:20:03,420 --> 02:20:07,920
enough to do it. I mean, what
does she have to lose? Well,

2437
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:09,600
John C Dvorak: at that now, I
didn't, you know, I didn't

2438
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:11,640
consider that. I've always
thought about her pulling that

2439
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:15,480
stunt so she'd be the president.
She can't do it before the

2440
02:20:15,540 --> 02:20:18,060
election, because then it would
look like she was trying to, you

2441
02:20:18,060 --> 02:20:22,520
know, get some it looked cheesy,
but I never thought about it

2442
02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:26,600
after the election, yeah, or
maybe two months, I think it's

2443
02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:29,180
the whole of December, she'd be
the president. Yeah, she could

2444
02:20:29,180 --> 02:20:31,520
do almost November and part of
January.

2445
02:20:31,820 --> 02:20:34,580
Adam Curry: She could start a
nuclear war in Ukraine, do

2446
02:20:34,580 --> 02:20:39,440
anything she wants. Now, this is
a very well known clip, and I

2447
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:42,580
have a question about this clip
for you. Everywhere

2448
02:20:42,580 --> 02:20:45,520
Unknown: I go, I tell people,
Look, you may not be a union

2449
02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:52,120
member, you better. Thank a
union member for the five day

2450
02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:56,260
work week, you better. Thank a
union member for sick leave you

2451
02:20:56,320 --> 02:21:00,040
better. Thank a union member for
paid leave you better. Thank a

2452
02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:01,920
union member for vacation time.

2453
02:21:08,040 --> 02:21:10,560
Adam Curry: So of course,
everyone focused on her code

2454
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:15,180
switch. There her southern
drawl, which came out. But is

2455
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:20,180
that true? Did the unions create
the five day work week, the sick

2456
02:21:20,180 --> 02:21:23,960
the paid sick days and vacation.
Was that the unions who did

2457
02:21:23,960 --> 02:21:24,440
that,

2458
02:21:26,300 --> 02:21:28,940
John C Dvorak: I think this
needs looking into. It was,

2459
02:21:28,940 --> 02:21:30,800
Adam Curry: in fact, Henry Ford.

2460
02:21:32,540 --> 02:21:34,760
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, right,
because Henry Ford this. There

2461
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:38,480
was a special on Henry Ford on
the BIOS channel, and they

2462
02:21:38,480 --> 02:21:41,860
discussed this. And it was the
problem with what Henry Ford ran

2463
02:21:41,860 --> 02:21:47,200
into. He invented the assembly
line, yep, because the the I'll

2464
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:52,000
just run down it, you know, to
watch it. But he was the demand

2465
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:55,660
for the Model T Ford, which took
him five years to develop. And

2466
02:21:55,660 --> 02:21:59,020
he had a bunch of the Dodge
Brothers, included investors he

2467
02:21:59,020 --> 02:22:02,340
had to pay back. Eventually he
got the thing out, and because

2468
02:22:02,340 --> 02:22:04,680
it was cheaper than anything
else, and it was, it was

2469
02:22:04,680 --> 02:22:09,120
reliable and rugged, and the
demand went through the ceiling.

2470
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:13,260
And so he by looking at a meat
packing plant, he decided to

2471
02:22:13,380 --> 02:22:16,260
invent the assembly line, the
modern assembly line for

2472
02:22:16,260 --> 02:22:19,560
automobiles, so he could keep up
with the demand for the car. And

2473
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:23,900
then what it turned out, as he
did this, the jobs were so

2474
02:22:23,900 --> 02:22:26,600
repetitive and boring that
people were quitting left and

2475
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:28,940
right. He had a huge employment
problem. He couldn't keep

2476
02:22:28,940 --> 02:22:31,640
anybody working there because
they were quitting left and

2477
02:22:31,640 --> 02:22:34,280
right. It was because it was
dull. And that's when he

2478
02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:35,240
invented these things.

2479
02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:40,420
Adam Curry: So it was not a
socialist union member. It was,

2480
02:22:40,420 --> 02:22:43,960
in fact, the capitalist
industrialist Henry Ford who you

2481
02:22:43,960 --> 02:22:49,960
need to thank. Just a little
point of contention, yes, on

2482
02:22:49,960 --> 02:22:52,000
your agenda. Yes, she's

2483
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:53,440
John C Dvorak: full of shit.
Let's face it.

2484
02:22:55,240 --> 02:23:00,180
Adam Curry: All right, this is a
day late, a day short. These

2485
02:23:00,180 --> 02:23:02,880
Unknown: actions will not be our
last.

2486
02:23:03,180 --> 02:23:06,360
Attorney General Merrick Garland
announced terrorism charges

2487
02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:09,720
against senior leaders of Hamas.
The charges relate to their

2488
02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:12,900
roles in the atrocities
committed in Israel. On October

2489
02:23:12,900 --> 02:23:13,440
7,

2490
02:23:13,740 --> 02:23:18,480
the Justice Department unsealed
charges against Yahya senoa and

2491
02:23:18,480 --> 02:23:22,820
other senior leaders of Hamas
for financing and directing a

2492
02:23:22,820 --> 02:23:27,560
decades long campaign to murder
American citizens and endanger

2493
02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:29,540
the security of the United
States.

2494
02:23:29,720 --> 02:23:32,960
The charges come after Israel
said it recovered the bodies of

2495
02:23:32,960 --> 02:23:36,920
six hostages who were killed by
militants in captivity, that

2496
02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:40,300
included Israeli American Hirsch
Goldberg Poland. We

2497
02:23:40,300 --> 02:23:44,080
are investigating Hershey's
murder, and each and every one

2498
02:23:44,140 --> 02:23:47,740
of the brutal murders of
Americans as acts of terrorism.

2499
02:23:47,860 --> 02:23:48,520
Goldberg

2500
02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:52,060
Poland's parents are Chicago
natives who became international

2501
02:23:52,060 --> 02:23:56,260
icons in the struggle to free
hostages. They said they hope

2502
02:23:56,260 --> 02:23:58,660
their son's murder becomes a
turning point in the

2503
02:23:58,660 --> 02:24:01,140
negotiations. So

2504
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:02,160
Adam Curry: okay, there

2505
02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:04,920
John C Dvorak: were hot. Here we
are the world's police. Yep,

2506
02:24:05,940 --> 02:24:09,360
Adam Curry: we were hot. There
were hostages since October 7 of

2507
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:12,600
last year, and now all of a
sudden, we're going to engage

2508
02:24:12,600 --> 02:24:15,660
the military industrial complex
to go bomb them further.

2509
02:24:15,660 --> 02:24:18,780
Because, well, we got our arrest
warrants out for you. You know

2510
02:24:18,780 --> 02:24:21,980
what? This is, how this gets
interpreted by the nut jobs in

2511
02:24:21,980 --> 02:24:26,060
our Congress. And when I say the
nut jobs leading the pack.

2512
02:24:26,060 --> 02:24:27,140
Lindsey Graham,

2513
02:24:27,260 --> 02:24:31,340
Unknown: sinwar, your days are
numbered, pal. We're not gonna

2514
02:24:31,340 --> 02:24:33,200
indict you. We're gonna kill
you. We're

2515
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:36,020
Adam Curry: gonna kill you. Just
send Lindsey Graham over to get

2516
02:24:36,020 --> 02:24:39,440
a tough talker. Send him over.
Send him over. There

2517
02:24:39,980 --> 02:24:41,680
John C Dvorak: you go. Now
you're talking to him. Do

2518
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:43,180
Adam Curry: it. Let him do it.

2519
02:24:43,420 --> 02:24:45,040
John C Dvorak: Now I'm going to
play, I would like to play a

2520
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:49,780
controversial clip, because
we've had people thinking that

2521
02:24:49,780 --> 02:24:53,200
we, you know, we are on the side
of Israel or in on the side of

2522
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:55,720
Palestine, depending on who you
are. We're getting them. You

2523
02:24:55,780 --> 02:24:58,120
don't take sides on this thing
mosaics,

2524
02:24:59,080 --> 02:24:59,500
Adam Curry: but

2525
02:24:59,500 --> 02:25:01,920
John C Dvorak: we, you. We
share, Where's our money? So we

2526
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:07,260
have, we know that the
Palestinians, or mainly the

2527
02:25:07,260 --> 02:25:12,420
Hamas people, are genocidal.
They want to end Israel and kill

2528
02:25:12,420 --> 02:25:17,400
all Jews. And we have to realize
that this is a two way street.

2529
02:25:17,400 --> 02:25:21,320
And I'm going to play a clip
from a podcast called Two nice

2530
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:27,440
Jewish boys that is out of
Israel, and it's everybody's all

2531
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:30,620
bent out of shape, because these
guys expressed what I think is

2532
02:25:30,620 --> 02:25:37,280
not necessarily a not
necessarily a singular thought,

2533
02:25:37,580 --> 02:25:42,040
because I think the Jewish
population of Israel is hates

2534
02:25:42,040 --> 02:25:45,940
the Palestinians. We've talked
about this to the to an extreme,

2535
02:25:45,940 --> 02:25:48,940
and is, and it goes both ways.
And I just think we should get

2536
02:25:48,940 --> 02:25:53,800
this out of the way so we can at
least be on the record for for

2537
02:25:53,860 --> 02:25:57,040
acknowledging this thing. Here's
the two nice Jewish boys,

2538
02:25:57,220 --> 02:26:01,320
Unknown: if you gave me a button
to just erase Gaza, every single

2539
02:26:01,320 --> 02:26:05,880
living being in Gaza would no
longer be living tomorrow. I

2540
02:26:05,880 --> 02:26:10,440
would press it in a second.
That's just, I think, I mean, I

2541
02:26:10,440 --> 02:26:15,840
think most Israelis, if that's
the choice, yeah, yeah, no, even

2542
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:19,920
if it's not like right now,
yeah. And I would press it right

2543
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:24,020
now, yeah. Same with the
territories. I would press it

2544
02:26:24,020 --> 02:26:26,540
right now. No choice, no. I'm

2545
02:26:26,540 --> 02:26:29,180
saying for the chance, yeah,

2546
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:29,660
yeah.

2547
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:30,680
I would press

2548
02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:33,680
it right now. Give me that
button and press it right now.

2549
02:26:33,740 --> 02:26:38,240
There you go. And I think most
Israelis would, yeah, most

2550
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:41,200
Jewish, they wouldn't post. They
wouldn't talk about it like I

2551
02:26:41,260 --> 02:26:43,780
have. They wouldn't post. They
wouldn't say, I pressed it.

2552
02:26:43,780 --> 02:26:47,680
Yeah, but they don't have balls
of steel like you. But they

2553
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:50,260
would press it right, like if
they were in a closet alone.

2554
02:26:50,260 --> 02:26:55,000
They wouldn't even hesitate.
Someone came to them and said,

2555
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:59,200
no one will know you press this.
All the Palestinians are gone.

2556
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:03,180
You'd be like, is there another
one?

2557
02:27:04,740 --> 02:27:08,640
Adam Curry: Well, I think this
is true. I know Sir Brian of

2558
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:12,540
London would be all in on that.
And I think these two nice

2559
02:27:12,540 --> 02:27:12,900
Jewish

2560
02:27:12,900 --> 02:27:15,300
John C Dvorak: boys, by the way,
I want, I want to thank Sir

2561
02:27:15,300 --> 02:27:18,300
Brian of London for sending me a
bunch of books. Yeah.

2562
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:22,820
Adam Curry: She sent everybody
books. Yeah. I think the two

2563
02:27:22,820 --> 02:27:27,020
nice Jewish boys, I have a
recommendation for a guest for

2564
02:27:27,020 --> 02:27:27,980
their podcast,

2565
02:27:28,040 --> 02:27:32,120
Unknown: sinwar. Your days are
numbered, pal. We're not gonna

2566
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:34,760
indict you. We're gonna kill
you. Better kill you.

2567
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:37,280
Adam Curry: Yeah, I was reading
Lindsey

2568
02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:37,640
John C Dvorak: Graham.

2569
02:27:37,640 --> 02:27:38,480
Adam Curry: I was reading I just

2570
02:27:38,480 --> 02:27:40,960
John C Dvorak: wanted to point
out that the genocidal maniacs

2571
02:27:40,960 --> 02:27:43,480
in the Middle East are
everywhere on both sides of

2572
02:27:43,480 --> 02:27:46,240
these arguments. It's not just
the Palestinians, one to kill

2573
02:27:46,240 --> 02:27:49,120
all Jews, all the Jews. And I
had a clip before. I don't know

2574
02:27:49,120 --> 02:27:53,020
if I ever played it, but it was
just somebody in the some one, a

2575
02:27:53,020 --> 02:27:59,080
woman, talking about the only
good Arab is a dead Arab. And

2576
02:27:59,080 --> 02:28:03,060
it's just as these people are
out of control on all sides, and

2577
02:28:03,060 --> 02:28:06,720
it's just something we need to
at least recognize

2578
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,420
Adam Curry: and sad, because
ultimately, the whole dispute is

2579
02:28:09,420 --> 02:28:11,280
just over. Who makes better
hummus?

2580
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,420
John C Dvorak: There is a there
is a moment of that. That's the

2581
02:28:15,420 --> 02:28:18,660
sad the best hummus ever had was
in Jaffa. Yeah, there you go.

2582
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:20,120
Name Dropper. So

2583
02:28:20,120 --> 02:28:24,680
Adam Curry: I was reading the AP
report about the large scale

2584
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:30,080
polio vaccinations, beginning in
war ravaged Gaza after the first

2585
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:32,780
case in 25 years. You had a
report on that the last show.

2586
02:28:33,020 --> 02:28:36,560
But what was interesting is this
one little line in this report

2587
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:40,960
from the Associated Press, the
polio virus that triggered this

2588
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:45,340
latest outbreak is a mutated
virus from an oral polio

2589
02:28:45,340 --> 02:28:50,620
vaccine. The oral polio vaccine
contains weakened, live virus,

2590
02:28:50,620 --> 02:28:54,700
and in very rare cases, that
virus is shed by those who are

2591
02:28:54,700 --> 02:28:59,320
vaccinated and can evolve into a
new form capable of starting new

2592
02:28:59,320 --> 02:29:04,560
epidemics. So in fact, this
outbreak comes from previous

2593
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:06,420
vaccination could

2594
02:29:06,420 --> 02:29:08,100
Unknown: be, yeah,

2595
02:29:10,020 --> 02:29:12,540
Adam Curry: I mean, I'm pretty
sure it is

2596
02:29:15,660 --> 02:29:16,560
John C Dvorak: out of control.

2597
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:21,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's just the
world we live in. Man, it's just

2598
02:29:21,020 --> 02:29:24,860
the world we live in. Um, let me
see. Well, let's

2599
02:29:24,860 --> 02:29:26,480
John C Dvorak: see. I got some
other stuff here that could be

2600
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:28,520
get gotten out of the way I
would since we talked about

2601
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:31,160
immigration the United States
and how great it is for us,

2602
02:29:31,400 --> 02:29:34,940
let's talk about UK, because
they have a different opinion

2603
02:29:34,940 --> 02:29:38,720
about everything. Yeah, and this
is the UK immigration update.

2604
02:29:38,780 --> 02:29:39,320
Britain

2605
02:29:39,320 --> 02:29:41,800
Unknown: has rejected calls for
an asylum treaty with the

2606
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:46,420
European Union. This a day after
12 migrants died trying to make

2607
02:29:46,420 --> 02:29:50,200
a perilous ocean journey from
France to England. NTDs

2608
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:53,740
INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT
Malcolm Hudson has more for us.

2609
02:29:54,460 --> 02:29:57,700
Britain has rejected proposals
to be part of a European Union

2610
02:29:57,700 --> 02:30:01,740
plan on asylum instead, Britain.
Reiterated its own plans to

2611
02:30:01,740 --> 02:30:05,160
tackle the criminal gangs behind
the UK's illegal immigration

2612
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:08,820
crisis. This comes after the
French interior minister Gerard

2613
02:30:08,820 --> 02:30:12,240
dominin called for a treaty
following the deaths of 12

2614
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:16,020
migrants who tried to cross the
English Channel on Tuesday. I

2615
02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:16,200
was

2616
02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:19,080
Adam Curry: a little confused by
this story, because I also saw

2617
02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:21,740
it, are they trying to make a
treaty where they pay France

2618
02:30:21,740 --> 02:30:24,680
more money to keep them, or it's

2619
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,200
John C Dvorak: hard, it's not
made clear, but the British

2620
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:30,800
aren't going for any of these
agreements with the EU regarding

2621
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:34,340
immigration, because they think
they're taking the brunt of it,

2622
02:30:34,460 --> 02:30:36,980
because people are going through
Europe and saying, We don't want

2623
02:30:36,980 --> 02:30:39,140
to be here. We want to go and
it's explained In

2624
02:30:39,140 --> 02:30:42,100
Adam Curry: these clips, why
only valve the French say, go

2625
02:30:42,100 --> 02:30:47,200
ahead, go. Let's go. We go. Get
in the boat. Yeah,

2626
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:52,240
Unknown: okay, next Dominion's
proposal could see migrants

2627
02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:56,140
claim UK asylum from within the
EU without needing to make the

2628
02:30:56,140 --> 02:30:59,980
dangerous journey. But this is
unlikely to happen. Other Prime

2629
02:30:59,980 --> 02:31:03,360
Minister Keir Starmer has
indicated he'd prefer to send

2630
02:31:03,420 --> 02:31:07,020
illegal immigrants back to the
EU despite the deaths of

2631
02:31:07,020 --> 02:31:10,800
Tuesday. Wednesday morning saw
several dozen more migrants

2632
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:14,520
board a crowded boat on the
French coast of wimaru. French

2633
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:17,880
patrol boats watched as the
flimsy boat labored through the

2634
02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:22,580
seas. The Coastal town's mayor
Jean Luc Dubai is also calling

2635
02:31:22,580 --> 02:31:25,940
for French and British officials
to do more to stem the number of

2636
02:31:25,940 --> 02:31:29,900
migrants attempting the journey.
He asked, Why do they want to go

2637
02:31:29,900 --> 02:31:33,200
to Britain? They can ask for
asylum in France, but he said

2638
02:31:33,260 --> 02:31:36,560
they want to go to Britain
instead. So Dubai says something

2639
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:40,600
is drawing them to choose the UK
over France. It echoes dominance

2640
02:31:40,600 --> 02:31:44,740
remarks, dominant condemned the
people smugglers, but he pointed

2641
02:31:44,740 --> 02:31:48,580
to what he sees as Britain's
loosely regulated job market. He

2642
02:31:48,580 --> 02:31:51,580
said migrants are attracted to
Britain because they can often

2643
02:31:51,580 --> 02:31:55,120
work without papers and are
rarely deported. Yeah,

2644
02:31:55,360 --> 02:31:57,460
Adam Curry: and the bankers love
it.

2645
02:31:58,780 --> 02:32:00,480
John C Dvorak: Yeah, same as
here.

2646
02:32:00,480 --> 02:32:03,720
Adam Curry: Sure, it's the exact
same issue we need. We need this

2647
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:07,500
cheap labor to come on in
suppress wages across the

2648
02:32:07,500 --> 02:32:08,760
country. Yes,

2649
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:13,080
John C Dvorak: suppressed wages
is the key. Yeah. Well, here we

2650
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:13,380
go.

2651
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:16,860
Unknown: Thomas said that in the
first two months in power, the

2652
02:32:16,860 --> 02:32:20,840
government supported over 400
people who have no right to be

2653
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:24,440
in Britain. However, UK
Government figures show that in

2654
02:32:24,440 --> 02:32:28,340
the last seven days alone, more
than 2000 people have arrived in

2655
02:32:28,340 --> 02:32:33,320
Britain on small boats. So far
this year, nearly 22,000 people

2656
02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:35,960
have made the dangerous journey.
I

2657
02:32:35,960 --> 02:32:40,480
Adam Curry: think it's more than
that that seems low. That seems

2658
02:32:40,480 --> 02:32:44,740
low. Follow up to Chris,

2659
02:32:44,740 --> 02:32:48,220
John C Dvorak: we're comparing
to our just walk over and take

2660
02:32:48,220 --> 02:32:54,280
it Yes, although, if you recall,
during the show era, there were

2661
02:32:54,280 --> 02:32:58,600
these guys sneaking on the
channel trains, yes, and going

2662
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:01,080
through the channel, which has
got to be a better way to get

2663
02:33:01,080 --> 02:33:02,580
into England. Yes,

2664
02:33:03,540 --> 02:33:06,360
Adam Curry: it's less wet. For
sure, it's

2665
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:08,880
John C Dvorak: less wet net.
That's a terrible crossing.

2666
02:33:09,780 --> 02:33:10,260
Follow

2667
02:33:10,260 --> 02:33:13,980
Adam Curry: up on the femicide
story we did so when a when a

2668
02:33:13,980 --> 02:33:18,420
man kills a woman. Now the term
is femicide. I mean, used to be

2669
02:33:18,420 --> 02:33:22,520
homicide, and I have to call it
femicide. And producer, Joe

2670
02:33:22,520 --> 02:33:26,420
says, you know, I was listening
to that. And he was, he was

2671
02:33:26,420 --> 02:33:30,860
talking to an ER doctor from
Detroit. And this ER doctor

2672
02:33:30,860 --> 02:33:36,020
says, you know, I get patients
in the ER multiple times a week

2673
02:33:36,020 --> 02:33:41,440
who've been shot in the crotch
men. And of course, the question

2674
02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:43,660
was, well, is that because
they're putting the gun in their

2675
02:33:43,660 --> 02:33:48,160
waistband? Says, Yeah, you do
get that, but the vast majority

2676
02:33:48,580 --> 02:33:53,440
is their female partner who shot
them in the crotch, mainly for

2677
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:54,100
cheating.

2678
02:33:57,340 --> 02:33:59,380
John C Dvorak: That's pretty
gotta be a term for that.

2679
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:02,340
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
if there's a term for that, but

2680
02:34:02,340 --> 02:34:05,040
I think tranicide is on deck.
That's coming.

2681
02:34:06,480 --> 02:34:07,560
Unknown: Trane site.

2682
02:34:08,100 --> 02:34:14,400
Adam Curry: Oh, speaking of Did
you see the full Nashville

2683
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:17,280
shooters, unredacted journal
that was released? I

2684
02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:19,620
John C Dvorak: haven't read it,
but I am aware of the fact that

2685
02:34:19,620 --> 02:34:23,600
it was released. Oh, oh, man,
it's horrible. We had a

2686
02:34:23,660 --> 02:34:26,540
policeman that was involved in
this who had seen it when he

2687
02:34:26,540 --> 02:34:31,040
reported to us that it's
horrible, and when it first

2688
02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:33,500
happened, he said they wouldn't
release it because it was so

2689
02:34:33,500 --> 02:34:34,220
gross. Well,

2690
02:34:34,220 --> 02:34:39,260
Adam Curry: it's clearly them
this. This kid was on SSRIs and

2691
02:34:39,260 --> 02:34:44,740
is just going through just a
roller coaster of emotions. It's

2692
02:34:44,740 --> 02:34:49,000
really, it's really nuts. And
now I'm wondering, we haven't

2693
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:52,840
heard about it yet, but this,
this recent shooting in this

2694
02:34:52,840 --> 02:34:58,180
Georgia school, you know, 14
year old kid you know. Do we

2695
02:34:58,180 --> 02:35:02,040
know if, if this kid. Was on
SSRIs.

2696
02:35:02,340 --> 02:35:05,520
John C Dvorak: They never tell
us anything. They just say it's

2697
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,080
because of guns.

2698
02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:12,780
Adam Curry: Producer sir Lane
Hart sent me a note. He says, I

2699
02:35:12,780 --> 02:35:16,980
just want to let you know that a
lot of things have happened in

2700
02:35:16,980 --> 02:35:22,280
Georgia this year, the lake and
Riley murder, illegal immigrant

2701
02:35:22,280 --> 02:35:26,360
murder in Athens, Georgia, about
an hour away from Fulton County.

2702
02:35:26,360 --> 02:35:32,960
Fannie Willis. Now this this
shooting in Georgia, and this

2703
02:35:32,960 --> 02:35:36,920
was almost like a gift for the
for Harris for the upcoming and

2704
02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:39,920
I'm sure there'll be questions
about it for the upcoming

2705
02:35:39,920 --> 02:35:44,740
debate. Then, of course, the FBI
knew about this kid and talked

2706
02:35:44,740 --> 02:35:49,360
to him, and oh, well, sorry,
couldn't do anything, right?

2707
02:35:49,360 --> 02:35:52,780
This is true. Seems, seems like
almost a gift for the debate.

2708
02:35:52,780 --> 02:35:56,080
You know what I mean? Not a good
people see, not a gift for the

2709
02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:59,860
dead kids. But you know what was
going on with this kid? We don't

2710
02:35:59,860 --> 02:36:00,960
know any we have a name, and

2711
02:36:00,960 --> 02:36:02,700
John C Dvorak: it was just the
beginning of the school year.

2712
02:36:02,700 --> 02:36:05,520
Wasn't like a build up. And he's
from another area, so it's not

2713
02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:09,000
like a build up of frustrations,
you know that he's picked up

2714
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:12,060
halfway through the school year.
This just started, yeah, so

2715
02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:15,720
there was something else going
on, again, not reported to us.

2716
02:36:15,720 --> 02:36:17,700
We don't have a clue. I

2717
02:36:17,700 --> 02:36:18,900
Adam Curry: do have a clip about
this.

2718
02:36:18,900 --> 02:36:22,040
Unknown: Here, a community is in
mourning after another

2719
02:36:22,040 --> 02:36:26,540
unspeakable American Tragedy
America day just before 10:30am

2720
02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:31,700
Police say a 14 year old student
carrying an AR style rifle

2721
02:36:31,700 --> 02:36:35,720
opened fire at Appalachia High
School, located just about an

2722
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:37,220
hour outside of Atlanta.

2723
02:36:37,220 --> 02:36:40,400
The gunshots were so close to
me, like my ears started ringing

2724
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:41,200
real bad. Like,

2725
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:44,380
Adam Curry: by the way, this
kid, this, this kid with the

2726
02:36:44,380 --> 02:36:48,700
dreads was on every it was like
there was one press conference,

2727
02:36:48,700 --> 02:36:51,160
and this kid was the only one
talking. I just found that

2728
02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:54,940
interesting. Every single report
I saw of this was this kid High

2729
02:36:54,940 --> 02:36:55,420
School

2730
02:36:55,600 --> 02:36:58,420
Unknown: located just about an
hour outside of Atlanta.

2731
02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:01,680
The gunshots were so close to
me, like my ears started ringing

2732
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:04,980
real bad, like the whole
classroom was smoking. I had saw

2733
02:37:04,980 --> 02:37:09,660
one of my classmates on the
ground bleeding so bad, students

2734
02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:09,900
and

2735
02:37:09,900 --> 02:37:13,020
teachers barricaded themselves
in classrooms. You could hear

2736
02:37:13,020 --> 02:37:15,960
gunshots just ringing out to the
school, and you're just

2737
02:37:15,960 --> 02:37:18,420
wondering which one of those is
going to be somebody that you're

2738
02:37:18,420 --> 02:37:20,660
like, best friends with, or
somebody that you love. The

2739
02:37:20,660 --> 02:37:24,740
suspected shooter, identified as
Colt Gray, was taken into

2740
02:37:24,740 --> 02:37:30,260
custody alive. Later, ruffling
1900 students were escorted out

2741
02:37:30,260 --> 02:37:33,080
of the school and on to the
football field, where they

2742
02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:37,220
reunited with their families.
The FBI says the suspect and his

2743
02:37:37,220 --> 02:37:39,920
father were both questioned by
Jackson County Sheriff's

2744
02:37:39,920 --> 02:37:44,560
officials last year after they
received anonymous online tips

2745
02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:49,420
about a school shooting threat,
but at that point they did not

2746
02:37:49,420 --> 02:37:51,640
have probable cause to make an
arrest,

2747
02:37:54,040 --> 02:37:55,900
John C Dvorak: to make an
arrested keep an eye on him.

2748
02:37:55,900 --> 02:37:58,780
Yeah, this also people think
that this may be one of those

2749
02:37:58,780 --> 02:38:02,340
cases where the parent, I guess
there's only one, right?

2750
02:38:02,340 --> 02:38:03,540
Arrested, arrested,

2751
02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:07,080
Adam Curry: yeah, where was that
other one was that was Oklahoma.

2752
02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:07,620
It was

2753
02:38:07,620 --> 02:38:08,160
John C Dvorak: another,

2754
02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:11,280
Adam Curry: I can't remember the
name case fans. Time to expand

2755
02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:15,000
John C Dvorak: arrest parents.
Rest these parents. I

2756
02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:17,280
Adam Curry: think there's a big
Bonanza going on now with

2757
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:23,000
advertising and native ads in
the big pharmaceutical space on

2758
02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:28,940
network television, because now,
now it's on, we've, we've been,

2759
02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:32,720
I've been following this, you
know, GLP one drugs they want to

2760
02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:35,720
get it on Medicare that keep
popping up, you know, these,

2761
02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:39,500
these very awkward and somewhat
devastating side effects. Now

2762
02:38:39,500 --> 02:38:42,220
they're just saying, Oh, it's
not the GLP one. It could be

2763
02:38:42,220 --> 02:38:45,340
this one. It could be that one.
And I think we're seeing a brand

2764
02:38:45,340 --> 02:38:49,780
war now, who's going to
discredit the other one as not

2765
02:38:49,780 --> 02:38:55,540
being the good one? And CBS, CBS
is in on this. Millions

2766
02:38:55,540 --> 02:38:57,640
Unknown: of Americans have
turned to prescription

2767
02:38:57,640 --> 02:39:01,920
medications to treat diabetes
and lose weight these GLP one

2768
02:39:01,920 --> 02:39:05,280
drugs better known by brand
names like ozempic with govi and

2769
02:39:05,280 --> 02:39:08,400
others, are very popular.
According to Gallup, about 15

2770
02:39:08,460 --> 02:39:12,300
million US adults say they've
used these injectable drugs to

2771
02:39:12,300 --> 02:39:13,680
reduce their body weight,

2772
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:17,340
Adam Curry: and notice we have
Pfizer with a pill. So these are

2773
02:39:17,340 --> 02:39:19,260
the injectables. Some say

2774
02:39:19,260 --> 02:39:21,740
Unknown: those drugs can have
serious, negative health

2775
02:39:21,740 --> 02:39:24,320
effects. Our senior
investigative correspondent Anna

2776
02:39:24,320 --> 02:39:26,900
Warner has been looking into
that part of the story. And a

2777
02:39:26,900 --> 02:39:27,620
good morning. Good

2778
02:39:27,620 --> 02:39:30,740
morning. Tony, yeah, you know,
many doctors say these, GLP one

2779
02:39:30,740 --> 02:39:34,640
medications can offer dramatic
benefits for patients, but some

2780
02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:37,580
patients say they've had serious
side effects, ranging from

2781
02:39:37,580 --> 02:39:41,620
nausea and vomiting to needing
emergency surgery. Even doctors

2782
02:39:41,620 --> 02:39:45,040
admit they can't always know who
might experience these rare

2783
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:48,400
complications, like one woman
from Pennsylvania, and

2784
02:39:48,400 --> 02:39:50,680
Adam Curry: then we get the one
from Pennsylvania with a heart

2785
02:39:50,680 --> 02:39:52,000
wrenching report.

2786
02:39:52,060 --> 02:39:56,980
Unknown: Diabetes is rampant in
my family, and I knew that that

2787
02:39:57,400 --> 02:40:00,540
all plays with weight. Juanita

2788
02:40:00,540 --> 02:40:03,960
Gantz struggled with her weight
at age 62 she weighed 242

2789
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:08,220
pounds, yet the most she could
lose trying various diets, she

2790
02:40:08,220 --> 02:40:10,200
says, was about 20 pounds.

2791
02:40:10,260 --> 02:40:13,500
I almost felt defeated and
humiliated. I mean, why couldn't

2792
02:40:13,500 --> 02:40:15,660
I lose this weight? Then she

2793
02:40:15,660 --> 02:40:18,000
saw ads for drugs, including
ozempic.

2794
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:23,240
Adam Curry: Her doctor, pretty
obvious, who they slamming here.

2795
02:40:23,240 --> 02:40:23,840
Read that

2796
02:40:23,840 --> 02:40:26,540
Unknown: because of her diabetes
risk, she was a good candidate

2797
02:40:26,540 --> 02:40:29,660
for one of those drugs and
prescribed her, we go V and

2798
02:40:29,660 --> 02:40:34,400
later, ozempic, both GOP one
drugs made by Novo Nordisk. How

2799
02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:35,240
are you feeling? Were

2800
02:40:35,240 --> 02:40:36,560
you I was feeling fine. I

2801
02:40:36,800 --> 02:40:39,500
Adam Curry: This seems so
obvious. It just me that this is

2802
02:40:39,500 --> 02:40:43,180
an obvious hit job on Novo
Nordisk and not on other

2803
02:40:43,180 --> 02:40:44,380
manufacturers,

2804
02:40:45,580 --> 02:40:49,300
John C Dvorak: while the ad
where they play the jingle that

2805
02:40:49,300 --> 02:40:51,940
seems to me to be just a
promotion, one

2806
02:40:51,940 --> 02:40:54,880
Unknown: drugs made by Novo
Nordisk. How are you feeling?

2807
02:40:54,880 --> 02:40:55,060
Were

2808
02:40:55,060 --> 02:40:56,320
you I was feeling fine. I

2809
02:40:56,320 --> 02:40:59,920
enjoyed the days that I didn't
have to worry about my appetite.

2810
02:40:59,920 --> 02:41:03,360
I didn't, have cravings. I just
felt like I was doing something

2811
02:41:03,360 --> 02:41:04,800
positive for myself. And then,

2812
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:08,520
but several months later, in
october 2023 gantt's husband

2813
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:11,580
found her on the floor
unconscious. This photo was

2814
02:41:11,580 --> 02:41:14,760
taken by her daughter, a nurse
at the hospital where Gant was

2815
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:17,820
taken. I had no idea what had
happened to me. Doctors found

2816
02:41:17,820 --> 02:41:21,500
parts of her large intestine had
died. It had to be removed.

2817
02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:24,620
Then, while recovering from
surgery, she went into cardiac

2818
02:41:24,620 --> 02:41:28,280
arrest, prompting the hospital
to call her daughter to warn

2819
02:41:28,280 --> 02:41:30,200
her, her mother could die. This

2820
02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:33,440
Adam Curry: stuff will kill you.
Underneath. Here is Gant. Wanted

2821
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:33,560
to

2822
02:41:33,560 --> 02:41:36,560
Unknown: show us how she lives
now, with her colon gone, she

2823
02:41:36,560 --> 02:41:40,300
has a bag called an ileostomy
bag attached to her abdomen at

2824
02:41:40,300 --> 02:41:42,940
all times to collect waste. I
had

2825
02:41:43,960 --> 02:41:47,860
no warning that this was even a
possibility. She's

2826
02:41:47,860 --> 02:41:51,280
now suing drug maker Novo
Nordisk, claiming its drug

2827
02:41:51,280 --> 02:41:54,820
labels do not adequately warn
patients and doctors about

2828
02:41:54,820 --> 02:41:58,300
potentially serious side
effects, including gastroparesis

2829
02:41:58,300 --> 02:42:02,100
or stomach paralysis and bowel
obstruction against attorney

2830
02:42:02,100 --> 02:42:03,540
Parvin amino Roya

2831
02:42:03,600 --> 02:42:07,260
always put a lot of resources
into marketing the drug,

2832
02:42:07,260 --> 02:42:10,980
hundreds of millions of dollars
to expand the market, get new

2833
02:42:10,980 --> 02:42:14,700
patients for the drug, but it
hasn't spent that money on

2834
02:42:14,700 --> 02:42:18,660
warning patients the risk of
gastroparesis, alias, small

2835
02:42:18,660 --> 02:42:21,680
bowel obstruction, and the fact
that these injuries can be

2836
02:42:21,680 --> 02:42:24,020
severe, even if it's in a rare
case.

2837
02:42:24,140 --> 02:42:27,140
Novo Nordisk declined to do an
on camera interview, but in a

2838
02:42:27,140 --> 02:42:30,440
statement, said the known risks
and benefits of the medicines

2839
02:42:30,440 --> 02:42:33,680
are described in their FDA
approved product labeling. The

2840
02:42:33,680 --> 02:42:36,200
company wrote that the
allegations in these lawsuits

2841
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:39,200
are without merit, and the
company intends to vigorously

2842
02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:41,260
defend against these claims, I

2843
02:42:41,260 --> 02:42:43,360
Adam Curry: don't know, but I'm
thinking the pill is the way to

2844
02:42:43,360 --> 02:42:46,480
go. You don't want these
injectables from Novo Nordisk.

2845
02:42:47,140 --> 02:42:50,260
John C Dvorak: I Well, there's
two things going on at the same

2846
02:42:50,260 --> 02:42:53,260
time, and you have to
acknowledge your attitude about

2847
02:42:53,260 --> 02:42:56,200
one of them, which is that you
scare people. They use it. This

2848
02:42:56,200 --> 02:43:00,360
is the thing with the tobacco
warnings, agreed. So that could

2849
02:43:00,360 --> 02:43:04,260
be going on, because when they
play the jingle, yeah, that is a

2850
02:43:04,260 --> 02:43:07,380
trigger that is bothersome,
yeah?

2851
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:13,140
Adam Curry: So people, you can
stop emailing me saying these

2852
02:43:13,140 --> 02:43:20,240
drugs are great, because I say
stuff like, you know this. This

2853
02:43:20,240 --> 02:43:24,620
was misunderstood. When I say
you can eat whatever crap you

2854
02:43:24,620 --> 02:43:28,160
want, people say it's not true
because you lose your appetite.

2855
02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:31,820
No, no. What I'm saying is you
can continue to eat the crap

2856
02:43:31,820 --> 02:43:36,260
food that most Americans
certainly eat, processed junk,

2857
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:41,440
which has little health benefit,
if anything, the adverse the

2858
02:43:41,500 --> 02:43:46,840
reverse is true. And then you
get fat from all these horrible

2859
02:43:46,840 --> 02:43:51,760
ingredients, and you get just,
you just start to wither away in

2860
02:43:51,760 --> 02:43:56,980
your lard. And But then here's a
drug that will fix it. You have

2861
02:43:56,980 --> 02:44:01,080
to fix the root problem. The
root cause is, is not eating

2862
02:44:01,080 --> 02:44:06,900
actual food. No one's talking
about that. That's why you're

2863
02:44:06,900 --> 02:44:09,780
still with us. You're still
alive because you eat good food

2864
02:44:09,780 --> 02:44:10,740
you cook for yourself.

2865
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:11,700
Unknown: What?

2866
02:44:12,780 --> 02:44:19,080
John C Dvorak: Where's my
Twinkies? We had a letter from a

2867
02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:22,160
doctor who because we played
that ad and all of side effects

2868
02:44:22,160 --> 02:44:24,680
that were just horrible. You
know, you break your bones, your

2869
02:44:24,680 --> 02:44:28,040
head falls off, your this sort
of thing. He says he'd been

2870
02:44:28,040 --> 02:44:31,640
giving his prizes. These are all
new to him. These, these side

2871
02:44:31,640 --> 02:44:35,540
effects. He's now seeing nothing
to indicate this, but he

2872
02:44:35,540 --> 02:44:39,200
couldn't explain where they came
from. But I have a couple more.

2873
02:44:39,200 --> 02:44:42,940
I don't have them in this series
of clips of more drugs with

2874
02:44:42,940 --> 02:44:45,760
screwball side effects. I mean,
why would you take a pill that

2875
02:44:45,880 --> 02:44:49,300
gives you tuberculosis? I mean,
how does that even work? You

2876
02:44:49,300 --> 02:44:53,680
notice this, or anal, more than
one drug that they ought to be

2877
02:44:53,680 --> 02:44:56,980
careful when you take this drug
and get tuberculosis. What?

2878
02:44:56,980 --> 02:44:57,280
Yeah,

2879
02:44:57,580 --> 02:44:59,920
Adam Curry: anal leakage. No
good. No good.

2880
02:45:03,540 --> 02:45:08,040
John C Dvorak: Um, I have a
Trump clip, okay? Just to, just

2881
02:45:08,040 --> 02:45:10,860
to balance things off, a little
bit, we played clips of Harris

2882
02:45:10,860 --> 02:45:15,000
yacking away, yeah, Trump. A
little bit with the LEX budget.

2883
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:20,120
This, this is a classic. This is
the mosquitoes. Yes, the

2884
02:45:20,120 --> 02:45:23,360
Unknown: Democrats who there was
a mosquito. I don't want

2885
02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:30,260
mosquitoes around me. I don't
like mosquitoes. I don't like

2886
02:45:30,260 --> 02:45:34,220
those mosquitoes. I never did.
Okay. Speaking of mosquitoes,

2887
02:45:34,760 --> 02:45:36,140
hello, Hillary, how are you
doing?

2888
02:45:39,140 --> 02:45:41,020
John C Dvorak: It's just this
material.

2889
02:45:43,780 --> 02:45:49,420
Adam Curry: Man, oh, man, oh
man. You know, I've been

2890
02:45:49,420 --> 02:45:54,580
following what's happening in
Germany with the alternative

2891
02:45:54,640 --> 02:45:59,260
feud Deutschland party right
wingers, which is fantastic

2892
02:45:59,260 --> 02:46:03,240
because, you know, Schultz came
out and said, Hey, let's just

2893
02:46:03,240 --> 02:46:06,900
block them. Don't give them.
Don't do whatever you do. Don't

2894
02:46:06,900 --> 02:46:11,220
enter into a coalition with
them, which seems kind of

2895
02:46:11,220 --> 02:46:18,420
undemocratic, totally and then
it turns out that they went back

2896
02:46:18,420 --> 02:46:25,880
and checked the voting machines,
and in order to have to sit in

2897
02:46:25,880 --> 02:46:30,920
the minority, they actually were
one vote short, which was caused

2898
02:46:30,920 --> 02:46:32,900
by a computer glitch. Can you
believe it?

2899
02:46:34,640 --> 02:46:36,980
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, I can
believe it.

2900
02:46:38,360 --> 02:46:41,500
Adam Curry: And I have one
example. This is just an intro

2901
02:46:41,500 --> 02:46:45,880
to a roundtable conversation,
but throughout Europe, this is

2902
02:46:45,940 --> 02:46:50,140
it's the same message over and
over again, which I found just

2903
02:46:50,140 --> 02:46:53,320
disturbing to hear. You'll
you'll notice it right away.

2904
02:46:54,640 --> 02:46:57,340
Unknown: Germany is reckoning
with the results of regional

2905
02:46:57,340 --> 02:47:00,600
elections that have left many
questioning whether German

2906
02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:04,980
history is rearing its ugly
head. For the first time since

2907
02:47:04,980 --> 02:47:08,460
Nazi rule, right wing extremists
have won a regional election in

2908
02:47:08,460 --> 02:47:11,340
Germany in the state of syringe.
This

2909
02:47:11,340 --> 02:47:14,460
Adam Curry: is what you hear all
day long. For the first time

2910
02:47:14,460 --> 02:47:18,840
since the Nazis, the far right,
have, now, you know, garnered

2911
02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:24,560
votes. So it's just this. They
were hammering on this, far

2912
02:47:24,560 --> 02:47:27,680
right, far right, far right. Now
they just, they equated, equate

2913
02:47:27,680 --> 02:47:32,540
it to Nazis. And it's a bunch of
basically old German people who

2914
02:47:32,540 --> 02:47:35,060
are sick of the immigration.
Yeah,

2915
02:47:35,120 --> 02:47:38,480
John C Dvorak: that's all it is.
And they're nationalists. They

2916
02:47:38,480 --> 02:47:41,560
want to protect the border and
make it Germany for Germans and

2917
02:47:41,560 --> 02:47:42,700
the devil forbid, and they're

2918
02:47:42,700 --> 02:47:46,180
Adam Curry: just being called
Nazis. This is, this is not

2919
02:47:46,180 --> 02:47:55,000
good. It's really It's so this
just bad. Props to you, Mr.

2920
02:47:55,000 --> 02:47:58,660
Dvorak, you are right. Thank
you. Amazon was not going to

2921
02:47:58,660 --> 02:48:03,600
stand for this team you and all
these Chinese dropship companies

2922
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:08,280
that are practically given the
products away, and Amazon PR and

2923
02:48:08,280 --> 02:48:09,960
lobbyists are on the case.

2924
02:48:09,960 --> 02:48:12,660
Unknown: Federal regulators are
now calling for an investigation

2925
02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:16,500
into websites sheen and temu
over potentially deadly baby and

2926
02:48:16,500 --> 02:48:19,320
toddler products. Two Consumer
Product Safety commissioners are

2927
02:48:19,320 --> 02:48:22,520
behind the new calls, citing a
recent article online in the

2928
02:48:22,520 --> 02:48:25,700
information that makes
accusations alleging the foreign

2929
02:48:25,700 --> 02:48:27,980
owned bargain sides might be
selling products that don't

2930
02:48:27,980 --> 02:48:31,460
comply with us safety
regulations. Timu and sheen have

2931
02:48:31,460 --> 02:48:34,880
not commented on the article or
the possible investigation.

2932
02:48:34,940 --> 02:48:35,060
Yeah,

2933
02:48:35,060 --> 02:48:36,980
Adam Curry: they're killing
babies just we're going to ban

2934
02:48:36,980 --> 02:48:40,780
them on that reason. What's
happening to Tiktok, by the way,

2935
02:48:41,080 --> 02:48:44,320
isn't that supposed to be over
pretty soon? Aren't they

2936
02:48:44,320 --> 02:48:44,980
supposed to be

2937
02:48:44,980 --> 02:48:47,620
John C Dvorak: key? I wish I had
this clip. I'll get, I'll try

2938
02:48:47,620 --> 02:48:52,540
to, maybe I go back and get this
clip for Sunday, the Vivek was

2939
02:48:52,540 --> 02:48:59,500
on hair or fraud Ingraham show,
and he was mentioning that this

2940
02:48:59,500 --> 02:49:03,060
idea, he was pushing the Free
Speech notions, and he and he

2941
02:49:03,240 --> 02:49:06,480
mentioned tick tock as being
just basically a free speech

2942
02:49:06,660 --> 02:49:11,280
vehicle. And she jumped all over
him with, oh, no, you're wrong.

2943
02:49:11,520 --> 02:49:15,480
This is dead at all. These guys
are this Chinese spying on us?

2944
02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:19,800
And she went on off the deep end
about this, and she said, called

2945
02:49:19,800 --> 02:49:23,000
him ignorant for thinking this
way, and all the rest of his

2946
02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:27,080
quite unique issues really bent
out of shape about Tiktok and

2947
02:49:27,080 --> 02:49:28,640
how it should go. Well, there

2948
02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:31,220
Adam Curry: was a viral
sensation that took place with

2949
02:49:31,220 --> 02:49:35,420
Tiktok, which was a real head
scratcher, and Tiktok is being

2950
02:49:35,420 --> 02:49:36,200
blamed for it.

2951
02:49:36,200 --> 02:49:39,680
Unknown: Chase Bank is issuing a
warning about a viral Tiktok

2952
02:49:39,680 --> 02:49:43,240
trend. A number of videos show
people depositing checks for

2953
02:49:43,240 --> 02:49:47,140
large sums of money at Chase
ATMs and then making a

2954
02:49:47,140 --> 02:49:51,280
withdrawal for a smaller amount.
Many believe they got free cash

2955
02:49:51,280 --> 02:49:55,720
from those ATMs, but Chase Bank
says that wasn't a glitch. It

2956
02:49:55,720 --> 02:49:57,640
was check fraud a crime.

2957
02:49:57,940 --> 02:50:00,540
Adam Curry: Did you see any of
this in your tick tock? Travels.

2958
02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:06,060
So there were just oodles, I
said it oodles of videos. It's

2959
02:50:06,060 --> 02:50:09,480
actually a good word, saying,
Oh, look, if you deposit this

2960
02:50:09,480 --> 02:50:13,260
check, you know, people putting
in a $31,000 check, and then,

2961
02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:18,420
right away, you could then in
the you can deposit that into

2962
02:50:18,420 --> 02:50:22,040
the ATM, and you could say,
Okay, now I want $20,000 and

2963
02:50:22,880 --> 02:50:26,600
they were showing, I don't know
if it's true, they were showing

2964
02:50:26,600 --> 02:50:32,120
the machine spitting out $20,000
and somehow these morons thought

2965
02:50:32,120 --> 02:50:37,100
that this was free money. People
don't the youngins these days

2966
02:50:37,100 --> 02:50:39,920
don't even understand the basics
of banking.

2967
02:50:41,060 --> 02:50:44,860
John C Dvorak: So the other
thing is, the other thing is

2968
02:50:45,220 --> 02:50:49,720
that's not it doesn't work that
way. You can't necessarily put

2969
02:50:49,720 --> 02:50:52,420
the money in and take it out
immediately, and you can only

2970
02:50:52,420 --> 02:50:57,340
take out $400 that's pretty good
size checking account that has a

2971
02:50:57,340 --> 02:50:59,980
lot of money in it. And you
could trying to get more than

2972
02:50:59,980 --> 02:51:05,160
400 out, it doesn't spit out
$20,000 in whatever bills.

2973
02:51:05,160 --> 02:51:07,680
That's like, I didn't have that
much money in the damn thing.

2974
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:08,040
That's

2975
02:51:08,040 --> 02:51:10,800
Adam Curry: why, when I heard
tick tock, I'm like, Okay, this

2976
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:14,760
is an anti tick tock thing. What
else could it be? What else

2977
02:51:14,760 --> 02:51:16,860
could it be? It has to be
something like that.

2978
02:51:18,420 --> 02:51:20,480
John C Dvorak: Well, they
people, of course, you

2979
02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:24,200
identified it before I did,
which is that the anti tick tock

2980
02:51:24,200 --> 02:51:29,060
stuff is not it's is done by the
other social media companies.

2981
02:51:29,120 --> 02:51:29,480
Yeah,

2982
02:51:29,540 --> 02:51:35,360
Adam Curry: now they got it
away. There you go. Sorry,

2983
02:51:35,480 --> 02:51:37,880
John C Dvorak: let's work on
that. I've I do have a tick tock

2984
02:51:37,880 --> 02:51:41,620
Clip to play though, which I
think is a good one. Okay, this

2985
02:51:41,620 --> 02:51:44,800
might tick tock clip of the guy.
This guy floats around, does a

2986
02:51:44,800 --> 02:51:47,020
lot. He's on the street
interviews, and he's got some

2987
02:51:47,020 --> 02:51:49,840
woman on there who thinks Trump
should have been shot. Talk,

2988
02:51:49,840 --> 02:51:51,040
Unknown: talk, tick tock.

2989
02:51:53,680 --> 02:51:56,320
So Donald Trump was recently
shot at one of his rallies. How

2990
02:51:56,320 --> 02:51:57,160
do you feel about that?

2991
02:51:57,880 --> 02:52:00,960
I wish he would've gotten shot
in the forehead. Oh, this one,

2992
02:52:01,080 --> 02:52:06,600
really? Yeah. I mean, he's
basically like, teaching our

2993
02:52:06,720 --> 02:52:10,440
country, like, what communism is
like, so what? So you wish death

2994
02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:14,580
upon someone him, Yeah,
unfortunately, I hate to say

2995
02:52:14,580 --> 02:52:19,680
that, because I don't have
hatred in my soul at all, but I

2996
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:23,660
think the way that our country
has divided families, marriages,

2997
02:52:24,800 --> 02:52:29,480
all of it about politics alone,
like it all really started with

2998
02:52:29,480 --> 02:52:30,680
him. So So

2999
02:52:30,680 --> 02:52:33,440
do you think wishing someone
death is not hateful?

3000
02:52:34,400 --> 02:52:38,720
I would say, yeah, absolutely. I
would say, obviously, I don't

3001
02:52:38,720 --> 02:52:43,660
wish death upon him. I wish that
he would be in jail for the

3002
02:52:43,660 --> 02:52:45,280
insurrection, which he should be

3003
02:52:45,640 --> 02:52:48,220
okay, yeah, but you just said
you wish that he would get hit

3004
02:52:48,220 --> 02:52:48,760
in the forehead.

3005
02:52:49,660 --> 02:52:53,020
Would have made things a little
easier on our country, but

3006
02:52:53,020 --> 02:52:55,720
actually really probably won it,
because the proud boys would

3007
02:52:55,720 --> 02:52:59,680
come out and start probably
shooting other people. So

3008
02:53:00,940 --> 02:53:05,640
the proud boys, yeah. Do you
think that, like, 60% of the

3009
02:53:05,640 --> 02:53:08,400
country are the proud boys that
support Trump? No,

3010
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:12,480
I think a lot of it is, you
know, wealthy people that only

3011
02:53:12,480 --> 02:53:16,980
care about the finances. And,
you know, there's, there's a lot

3012
02:53:16,980 --> 02:53:19,920
of ignorance, I think in this
country, yeah, a lot of fake

3013
02:53:20,280 --> 02:53:31,340
news. And a lot of just
unhealthy like bias and

3014
02:53:31,340 --> 02:53:35,720
political propaganda, I don't
think we have a good. We're

3015
02:53:35,720 --> 02:53:41,020
fought essentially as a country.
We don't have a good we don't

3016
02:53:41,020 --> 02:53:44,800
have a good runner at all. So,

3017
02:53:45,580 --> 02:53:50,500
Adam Curry: yeah, this was, I
saw this clip, and I didn't want

3018
02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:55,180
to clip it, because I just like,
but I'm glad you did. What is

3019
02:53:55,180 --> 02:53:59,740
going on here? Is she has all
the right information. She's

3020
02:53:59,740 --> 02:54:05,460
just focused on the wrong party.
It's, it's the wicked, evil

3021
02:54:05,520 --> 02:54:09,540
Democrat party who is doing, and
I don't like being partisan, but

3022
02:54:09,780 --> 02:54:13,140
that is them. Everything she
said is what you say, being

3023
02:54:13,140 --> 02:54:13,800
yourself.

3024
02:54:14,700 --> 02:54:18,180
John C Dvorak: Hateful. Totally.
I said that twice today, but I

3025
02:54:18,180 --> 02:54:19,800
Yeah, 300% hate. I said 100%

3026
02:54:20,700 --> 02:54:24,800
Adam Curry: and, she's pretty
much an NPC. And the clue, by

3027
02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:30,380
the way, was those earthy, open
shoe sandals she was wearing. Do

3028
02:54:30,380 --> 02:54:33,020
you see a woman like that? You
need to walk the other side,

3029
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:35,240
other direction. I'm gonna show

3030
02:54:35,240 --> 02:54:38,300
Unknown: my salad by donating to
no agenda. Imagine all the

3031
02:54:38,300 --> 02:54:40,420
people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun. Oh, me we

3032
02:54:47,980 --> 02:54:50,320
Adam Curry: want to thank our
producers who came in $50 and

3033
02:54:50,320 --> 02:54:53,260
above. We don't mention below 50
for reasons of anonymity. And of

3034
02:54:53,260 --> 02:54:56,440
course, we have our sustaining
donors. We appreciate everything

3035
02:54:56,440 --> 02:54:59,320
that everyone does when it comes
to the time, talent and treasure

3036
02:54:59,320 --> 02:55:03,300
of our values. Value for value
model now, and it's almost 17

3037
02:55:03,300 --> 02:55:06,600
years that we've been doing
this. And John, would you mind

3038
02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:08,100
reading some of these? Thank
you,

3039
02:55:08,100 --> 02:55:09,960
John C Dvorak: yes. And I'm
going to throw it to you. We get

3040
02:55:09,960 --> 02:55:13,620
to the birthday donation. Sure,
sure, sure. Benjamin nites in

3041
02:55:13,620 --> 02:55:21,560
San Francisco starts us off.
Leonard, $66.66 he is doing a

3042
02:55:21,560 --> 02:55:28,280
big meetup up in the old cat,
old cat caso, I guess maybe

3043
02:55:28,280 --> 02:55:32,840
brewery in ronard Park, and go
to no agenda meetups.com to get

3044
02:55:33,200 --> 02:55:39,980
information. Uh, M, Andrew Jones
came with $111.11 and he, uh,

3045
02:55:40,040 --> 02:55:42,880
Adam Curry: he sent a note in,
but, oh, he's our he's the

3046
02:55:42,880 --> 02:55:44,800
writer, right? He's our writer.
Yeah,

3047
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:49,300
John C Dvorak: he does fantasy
fiction, which is not easy to

3048
02:55:49,300 --> 02:55:53,260
write, and he's sending his new
book out. It's in the note.

3049
02:55:53,320 --> 02:55:55,060
Adam Curry: What's it called?
What's it called?

3050
02:55:55,840 --> 02:55:57,880
John C Dvorak: Look at the note.
I think I opened it. No, I

3051
02:55:57,880 --> 02:55:58,840
didn't know, but the

3052
02:55:58,900 --> 02:56:02,100
Adam Curry: book is called, let
me see clocking in at a hefty

3053
02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:08,940
160,000 words. It's called uh
under huge under oblara. Yeah,

3054
02:56:09,060 --> 02:56:14,460
under oblara, this chunky book
took over seven years to produce

3055
02:56:14,460 --> 02:56:18,660
and continues the adventure of
krigal Bear duvante As he tracks

3056
02:56:18,660 --> 02:56:21,680
the thief Humber to the wilds of
knoweth,

3057
02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:26,240
John C Dvorak: you get on his
newsletter list from M Andrew

3058
02:56:26,240 --> 02:56:31,460
jones.com Yes, like that, yes,
he by Count of very fine people,

3059
02:56:31,460 --> 02:56:38,660
yes, good guy. So he is a good
guy, and they definitely worth

3060
02:56:39,140 --> 02:56:44,320
checking out. Joshua Stanfield
in Moreno Valley, California,

3061
02:56:44,320 --> 02:56:49,900
$105.35 Uh, he's Charlie the
office cat, I guess. Or for the

3062
02:56:49,960 --> 02:56:55,480
cat, Baron latikin, our buddy in
Houston, Texas, 100 John Robin,

3063
02:56:55,480 --> 02:56:59,800
100 sir Kelly, SpongeBob.
Haven't heard from him for a

3064
02:56:59,800 --> 02:57:03,180
while. From the Rocky Mountain
House in Alberta, $100 no

3065
02:57:03,180 --> 02:57:06,960
jingles, no karma, of course,
not still listening for over 17

3066
02:57:06,960 --> 02:57:09,180
years, even though you only been
on 16.8

3067
02:57:10,320 --> 02:57:12,360
Adam Curry: he's magic. That man
is Sir

3068
02:57:12,360 --> 02:57:16,860
John C Dvorak: Road Dog in Twin
Falls, Idaho, 8008 followed by

3069
02:57:16,860 --> 02:57:20,720
Kevin McLaughlin, our Archduke
of Luna, lover of America and

3070
02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:26,720
boobs with the 808 boob
donation. Tom keys L in Hanford,

3071
02:57:26,720 --> 02:57:34,160
California, 808 Luca Marie l
asberto in savosa, ch,

3072
02:57:34,160 --> 02:57:37,160
Switzerland, Switzerland, I
guess that's where as eight oh.

3073
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:41,500
And there's a switcheroo for
Marty from Otten, Alton, uh,

3074
02:57:41,620 --> 02:57:45,400
boobs. And belated Happy
Birthday to Adam. Yeah. Thank

3075
02:57:45,400 --> 02:57:50,500
you. Good for your day. Jeff
Noss bush in Minneapolis,

3076
02:57:50,500 --> 02:57:53,800
Minnesota, 7777, and you can
take the rest, because these are

3077
02:57:53,800 --> 02:57:57,880
all birthday call outs to Adam,
yes, and final but the final

3078
02:57:58,360 --> 02:57:59,080
batch of

3079
02:57:59,080 --> 02:58:01,260
Adam Curry: them, yes, the final
batch, and I think these are all

3080
02:58:01,260 --> 02:58:05,580
60. Some have some fees added,
so I'll just say they're all 60,

3081
02:58:05,580 --> 02:58:09,060
and I will read the fan the
Happy Birthday Wishes, surplus

3082
02:58:09,780 --> 02:58:17,040
fantasy, understood. Happy
birthday, says Daniel Bozak,

3083
02:58:17,220 --> 02:58:20,480
Mickey boss says, Happy
Birthday. Adam. He's the Irish

3084
02:58:20,480 --> 02:58:23,960
Catholic sinner. Julie G, happy
birthday. Adam. Happy belated

3085
02:58:23,960 --> 02:58:27,860
anniversary. John. Julie G from
Brighton, Ontario, in the

3086
02:58:27,860 --> 02:58:31,220
beginning was the 60. That's the
numerical value of the word,

3087
02:58:31,220 --> 02:58:34,580
apparently, says Paulo Moore,
happy birthday. AC from Brett

3088
02:58:34,580 --> 02:58:37,820
Harding, Happy belated birthday.
Adam from Timothy, Brashear sir

3089
02:58:37,820 --> 02:58:44,740
Timothy. Belated birthday wishes
from Valerie Ray, Alina of Avery

3090
02:58:45,640 --> 02:58:49,540
van harte feliz steered frolica
ZIL varchias, Alina and

3091
02:58:49,540 --> 02:58:54,040
Sebastia. Sir Rain Man, happy
birthday. Sir roderhead, happy

3092
02:58:54,040 --> 02:58:59,800
birthday. Nicole iovan. Iovan
Polly Robbins and Nicola Hannah

3093
02:59:00,100 --> 02:59:04,020
all say happy birthday, as does
Dave Jackson. I wonder if that's

3094
02:59:04,020 --> 02:59:07,140
the famous School of podcasting
Dave Jackson. I'm thinking it

3095
02:59:07,500 --> 02:59:11,160
might be. Ash is in Texas and
says Happy Birthday, and turns

3096
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:15,240
53 today. So you're on the list.
Happy birthday. Adam from an

3097
02:59:15,240 --> 02:59:20,780
Indiana douchebag, Steve Brown
in Monticello, Edward Bala in

3098
02:59:20,780 --> 02:59:24,800
shul. Cork Ireland. Happy 60th.
Happy birthday. Adam. We will

3099
02:59:24,800 --> 02:59:28,100
raise a glass the upcoming
Tilburg meetup, says Baron Robb

3100
02:59:28,940 --> 02:59:34,460
Happy Birthday. Adam from Alison
olsofsky, happy birthday. Adam

3101
02:59:35,240 --> 02:59:38,720
from Dan in Mount Juliet needs
some jobs karma. I hate that at

3102
02:59:38,720 --> 02:59:42,280
the end for you. And the final
one is from Eric Frederick's a

3103
02:59:42,280 --> 02:59:44,980
happy birthday, and I thank you
all very much. It's been a very

3104
02:59:44,980 --> 02:59:49,720
happy birthday. It was nice
turning 60, accentuated by I

3105
02:59:49,720 --> 02:59:53,320
mean, it was I feel good. I feel
good about this age, and I'm

3106
02:59:53,320 --> 02:59:56,980
good for another four more years
at least. Brian

3107
02:59:56,980 --> 02:59:59,920
John C Dvorak: Furley is up
next, and he's at 5510, it's.

3108
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,060
Sir Tom dari comes in at 5510 uh
Troy, Thunder Burke in Missoula,

3109
03:00:06,060 --> 03:00:11,940
Montana. 55 Heather Harper in
Lubbock, Texas. 5333 Mark

3110
03:00:11,940 --> 03:00:17,820
Hardwick in Aledo, Texas. 5333
Michael gates, Parts Unknown.

3111
03:00:17,820 --> 03:00:23,960
5280 John basano in Madison,
Alabama, 5272 and now we go to

3112
03:00:23,960 --> 03:00:27,500
the 50s, which is curious,
because you need to have any of

3113
03:00:27,500 --> 03:00:32,720
the 50 Oh ones, which is fine
with me. Matt frazzi Frazee in

3114
03:00:32,720 --> 03:00:38,180
St John's Florida, foster foster
birch in New York City. Daniel

3115
03:00:38,180 --> 03:00:43,300
leboy in Bath, Michigan. James
Shara Mehta in napanoch Kurt

3116
03:00:43,300 --> 03:00:50,440
Patrick in naimo. BC. Our
Canadian friend, Jacob Martin is

3117
03:00:50,440 --> 03:00:56,200
in El Monte, California. Michael
Felix in Modesto. Chris con

3118
03:00:56,200 --> 03:01:01,800
Necker, coniker connecr in
Anchorage that. Alex Zavala in

3119
03:01:01,800 --> 03:01:08,820
Kyle, Texas. Kalori Kerry crooks
in Melbourne, Victoria,

3120
03:01:08,820 --> 03:01:15,180
Australia. Make some comment
about the money. Jason deluzio

3121
03:01:15,180 --> 03:01:22,400
in Miami Beach, sir, Jason and
Sir Severn up partridge in San

3122
03:01:22,400 --> 03:01:24,680
Rafael, California. Want to
thank all these people for

3123
03:01:24,680 --> 03:01:28,340
making show 6092 the reality
that it is. And

3124
03:01:28,340 --> 03:01:30,440
Adam Curry: thank you to all our
sustaining donors who came in

3125
03:01:30,440 --> 03:01:33,920
under 50 or under 50, for
reasons of anonymity, go to no

3126
03:01:33,920 --> 03:01:37,820
agenda donations.com to support
the show. You know you want to

3127
03:01:37,820 --> 03:01:40,300
do it. You got the value. Send
it back whatever it's worth to

3128
03:01:40,300 --> 03:01:43,240
you. And here's the jobs karma,
as requested, jobs,

3129
03:01:43,420 --> 03:01:47,560
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs

3130
03:01:49,420 --> 03:01:52,240
Adam Curry: karma. Support the
show noatgenderdonations.com

3131
03:01:59,260 --> 03:02:02,340
and we do have a list here. Dame
mama Susan wishes her birthday

3132
03:02:02,340 --> 03:02:04,980
her daughter, Julia Beale, a
happy one. This is belated

3133
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:07,920
celebrate on the first Dan says,
Happy Birthday with his wife,

3134
03:02:07,920 --> 03:02:12,420
Angie, it's her birthday today.
Jay wishes Marnie a happy

3135
03:02:12,420 --> 03:02:16,740
birthday. Is this? RJ, our very
own, Jay. Jay and her dog,

3136
03:02:16,740 --> 03:02:20,660
Marnie. Ah, her dog, Marnie,
turns two years old today. Happy

3137
03:02:20,660 --> 03:02:25,460
birthday. Marty Ashton, Texas,
turns 55 today. Freya turns 55

3138
03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:29,540
tomorrow, and day. Mama Susan
herself, she celebrates us.

3139
03:02:29,540 --> 03:02:32,300
September 7. Happy birthday for
everybody here at the best

3140
03:02:32,300 --> 03:02:39,620
podcast in the universe. And no
title changes, but we do have

3141
03:02:39,620 --> 03:02:43,240
two Dames and one night to bring
up, so we'll bring out why to

3142
03:02:43,240 --> 03:02:43,960
John C Dvorak: Dame one night.

3143
03:02:44,260 --> 03:02:47,140
Adam Curry: Very nice play.
Thank you very much. Up on the

3144
03:02:47,140 --> 03:02:51,400
podium, Angie Genevieve,
Wimberly, Kyle towig, all of you

3145
03:02:51,400 --> 03:02:56,200
are gonna get that shiny, nice
ring and an official knighting

3146
03:02:56,200 --> 03:02:59,920
or Daming ceremony. I'm very
proud to pronounce the KB as

3147
03:03:00,160 --> 03:03:04,380
dame, little Anne of Where the
Red Fern Grows. Dame Jen with a

3148
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:08,400
G, protector of women's vaginas
and Sir spook of Spokane,

3149
03:03:08,400 --> 03:03:12,060
protector of infrastructure. For
you, we've got hookers and blow

3150
03:03:12,060 --> 03:03:15,600
Ren boys and Charmin a
Chardonnay salmon nigiri and a

3151
03:03:15,600 --> 03:03:20,300
plate of 12 lengua tacos,
Patagonian toothfish, French

3152
03:03:20,300 --> 03:03:23,780
crepes and champagne along with
sparkling cider, escorts, gin

3153
03:03:23,780 --> 03:03:26,720
trail and gerbils, breast milk
and pablum and, of course, the

3154
03:03:26,720 --> 03:03:29,420
mutton and Mead. That's right,
it's always here for you at the

3155
03:03:29,420 --> 03:03:32,420
round table. And if you go to
noagindarings.com Give us all

3156
03:03:32,420 --> 03:03:36,020
your information so we can send
off your handsome night and Dame

3157
03:03:36,020 --> 03:03:39,560
ring. There's a handy sizing
guide there so we know what size

3158
03:03:39,560 --> 03:03:42,880
to send to you. It is a signet
ring, so we provide the wax for

3159
03:03:42,880 --> 03:03:46,000
which you can use to seal your
import correspondence. And as

3160
03:03:46,000 --> 03:03:48,820
always, to make it official,
there is a certificate of

3161
03:03:48,820 --> 03:03:52,300
authenticity. Thank you all for
supporting the show and welcome

3162
03:03:52,300 --> 03:03:55,540
new knights, new knights and new
dames to the no agenda

3163
03:03:55,540 --> 03:03:56,920
roundtable. No agenda

3164
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:09,000
yes, those no agenda meetups are
always like a party. People like

3165
03:04:09,000 --> 03:04:11,940
coming together. The people that
part that no agenda together

3166
03:04:11,940 --> 03:04:15,900
stay together, and often party
together, as is the case with

3167
03:04:15,900 --> 03:04:18,840
the North Idaho sanity brigade.
Here's their meetup report. Hey,

3168
03:04:18,840 --> 03:04:19,140
it's sir

3169
03:04:19,140 --> 03:04:21,740
Unknown: Scott the Jew here at
the nuptials, the celebration of

3170
03:04:21,740 --> 03:04:24,920
the wedding of Kyle, the spook
from Spokane, and Jen with a G,

3171
03:04:24,920 --> 03:04:28,340
these two have both found their
last best spouse, and unlike

3172
03:04:28,340 --> 03:04:30,980
their first marriages, this
wedding was no cheap fake

3173
03:04:31,040 --> 03:04:34,400
in the morning. Here's your
spook from Spokane, celebrating

3174
03:04:34,580 --> 03:04:39,500
the Daming and the knighting of
Jen with a G and the spook of

3175
03:04:39,500 --> 03:04:42,400
Spokane. We couldn't be happier.
In fact, we're just gonna go

3176
03:04:42,400 --> 03:04:45,520
stay in the castle tonight,
because I just locked down the

3177
03:04:45,520 --> 03:04:49,780
total keeper, smoking hot wife
material all the way. I love

3178
03:04:49,780 --> 03:04:50,140
you, Jen.

3179
03:04:50,200 --> 03:04:54,460
I am Brian. Also spook.
Congratulations to spook of

3180
03:04:54,460 --> 03:04:58,840
Spokane and Jen with the G love
you guys so excited. You're no

3181
03:04:58,840 --> 03:05:01,860
Jenning together. Stay. Stand
together and live a life

3182
03:05:01,860 --> 03:05:04,920
together, ride all the trails
and find the powder turns baby.

3183
03:05:04,980 --> 03:05:05,160
This

3184
03:05:05,220 --> 03:05:08,820
is Jen with the gene. We're
gonna prove better than anybody

3185
03:05:08,820 --> 03:05:11,400
else in the whole world, than
those who know agenda together,

3186
03:05:11,400 --> 03:05:15,840
stand together and in honor of
our Daming. And today, we are

3187
03:05:15,840 --> 03:05:18,240
gonna stay in a castle, and we
will send pictures.

3188
03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:21,200
So raise your glasses as high as
you can, and let's toast Kyle

3189
03:05:21,200 --> 03:05:24,260
and Jen May your love continue
to grow on every trail. May

3190
03:05:24,260 --> 03:05:27,380
every day together be a powder
day, and may Uber Kyle with

3191
03:05:27,380 --> 03:05:29,600
Jenna the G away into the sunset
forever.

3192
03:05:33,920 --> 03:05:36,560
Adam Curry: That's the kind of
fun you want to be at. I'm

3193
03:05:36,560 --> 03:05:39,680
telling you, these meetups are
off the hook, and sometimes

3194
03:05:39,920 --> 03:05:43,060
they're in historical places,
like the monument to the

3195
03:05:43,060 --> 03:05:46,180
forefathers in Plymouth. In the
morning.

3196
03:05:49,180 --> 03:05:52,060
Unknown: This is Hey citizen at
the Adam and Tino we're here

3197
03:05:52,060 --> 03:05:52,480
meetup.

3198
03:05:52,720 --> 03:05:54,460
Dame de Lorian

3199
03:05:54,460 --> 03:05:57,160
was here. Mr. Spencer Wolf,
Kansas City. We're here in

3200
03:05:57,160 --> 03:05:58,960
beautiful Plymouth. It's right
on the water

3201
03:05:59,140 --> 03:06:02,220
in the morning. This is kanjin,
happy birthday, Adam.

3202
03:06:04,980 --> 03:06:09,360
I'm John Winston. Hi, John and
Adam. This is who I am. In the

3203
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:14,160
morning, I am, coincidentally,
visiting the monuments today.

3204
03:06:14,160 --> 03:06:18,180
And then I hear no agenda, that
there's a meet up up here. So I

3205
03:06:18,180 --> 03:06:21,380
stop by and say hi in the
morning. In the morning. In the

3206
03:06:21,440 --> 03:06:21,800
morning,

3207
03:06:23,660 --> 03:06:26,000
Adam Curry: very nice. There's a
couple of meetups taking place.

3208
03:06:26,000 --> 03:06:30,380
In fact, today, the 805 rooftop
Meetup is underway at Goleta HGI

3209
03:06:30,380 --> 03:06:34,940
rooftop in Goleta, California.
The northern wake public slave

3210
03:06:34,940 --> 03:06:37,760
gathering kicks off at six at
happy endings in Raleigh, North

3211
03:06:37,760 --> 03:06:40,720
Carolina. Get on and get in the
car, go and visit them. The

3212
03:06:40,720 --> 03:06:44,200
Denver back to the bar. Meet up
830 tonight at Lincoln's

3213
03:06:44,200 --> 03:06:48,220
Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado,
tomorrow. The Go pack go at HQ.

3214
03:06:48,220 --> 03:06:53,140
630 at headquarters bar in
Oregon, Wisconsin on Saturday.

3215
03:06:53,140 --> 03:06:59,260
The tiny amygdala, amygdalay of
Anchorage rain dance. That's two

3216
03:06:59,260 --> 03:07:01,860
o'clock in the afternoon. This
is an Anchorage Alaska at sir

3217
03:07:01,860 --> 03:07:04,500
Lane's house, so you need to
RSVP, do a quick if you want to

3218
03:07:04,500 --> 03:07:09,000
go there for Saturday, the real
Fox Valley number four. 330 at

3219
03:07:09,000 --> 03:07:11,700
two brothers Roadhouse in
Aurora, Illinois. That is the

3220
03:07:11,700 --> 03:07:16,920
Chirac central meetup locale on
Sunday, the the annual, the

3221
03:07:16,920 --> 03:07:21,080
monthly in the NA tribal
September Shindig. 330 at

3222
03:07:21,080 --> 03:07:23,780
prodigy Burger Bar,
Indianapolis, Indiana, Marco

3223
03:07:23,780 --> 03:07:26,360
Marie of the Greenwood, of
course, organizing that as

3224
03:07:26,360 --> 03:07:30,860
always and on Sunday as well the
too many eggs.com. Meet up. 333

3225
03:07:31,820 --> 03:07:36,200
at yasho Jamaica grill in Keene,
New Hampshire. Many more to

3226
03:07:36,200 --> 03:07:40,160
find, many more to see, many
more to take part in. And a

3227
03:07:40,160 --> 03:07:43,420
reminder, October 18 is a
Fredericksburg Texas meetup. I'm

3228
03:07:43,420 --> 03:07:46,360
very excited about that we will
be attending. But every single

3229
03:07:46,360 --> 03:07:48,940
meetup has people you've heard
of before on the show you've

3230
03:07:48,940 --> 03:07:52,120
heard them in the meetup reports
maybe that you recognize them as

3231
03:07:52,120 --> 03:07:55,000
nights and days, people come
out, wear their rings, and you

3232
03:07:55,000 --> 03:07:57,820
all get together, and there's
never, ever been a fight, never

3233
03:07:57,820 --> 03:08:01,980
been any kind of bad vibes at a
no agenda. Meet up, because

3234
03:08:02,760 --> 03:08:06,000
connection brings protection, no
agenda. Meetups.com. If you

3235
03:08:06,000 --> 03:08:09,240
can't find one near you, start
one yourself. Always guaranteed

3236
03:08:09,240 --> 03:08:09,720
a party.

3237
03:08:09,960 --> 03:08:14,340
Unknown: Sometimes you wanna go
hang out with all the nights and

3238
03:08:14,340 --> 03:08:25,040
days you wanna be a hell lame
gonna be where everybody feels

3239
03:08:25,040 --> 03:08:25,760
the same. It's like a

3240
03:08:28,820 --> 03:08:33,680
Adam Curry: party. Always a
party, Party Party Party Party.

3241
03:08:34,400 --> 03:08:40,360
It's a good party. I have, let
me see, I have two ISOs. We'd

3242
03:08:40,360 --> 03:08:45,400
like to pick them before we end
the show, and this will be our

3243
03:08:45,400 --> 03:08:48,880
end of show, ISO. I have, do you
have any ISOs at all?

3244
03:08:48,940 --> 03:08:50,740
John C Dvorak: I have one. Okay,
well,

3245
03:08:50,980 --> 03:08:54,220
Adam Curry: let's see. I'm
looking for it. Oh, here it is.

3246
03:08:54,460 --> 03:08:55,900
Okay. I'm gonna play yours.

3247
03:08:57,340 --> 03:08:58,960
Unknown: I don't like
mosquitoes,

3248
03:09:01,300 --> 03:09:04,140
Adam Curry: not bad, but I have
this one, sir,

3249
03:09:04,140 --> 03:09:04,920
Unknown: pick a hole.

3250
03:09:05,280 --> 03:09:05,880
Mm hmm.

3251
03:09:06,300 --> 03:09:06,720
Oh,

3252
03:09:06,780 --> 03:09:08,340
John C Dvorak: just gross. Or

3253
03:09:08,340 --> 03:09:10,920
Adam Curry: this one, hey, that
actually wasn't so bad.

3254
03:09:11,700 --> 03:09:12,960
John C Dvorak: I like that one.
I

3255
03:09:13,140 --> 03:09:14,940
Adam Curry: thought you'd like
that one. I liked it too. All

3256
03:09:14,940 --> 03:09:17,160
right, everybody, end of the
show. That means it's time for

3257
03:09:17,160 --> 03:09:19,140
the famous Tip of the day,

3258
03:09:20,280 --> 03:09:24,500
Unknown: green fast for you and
me. You and me, just a tip with

3259
03:09:24,500 --> 03:09:25,220
JCD

3260
03:09:26,420 --> 03:09:28,400
and sometimes Adam, we

3261
03:09:28,400 --> 03:09:31,280
Adam Curry: are very excited as
always, to hear about John's Tip

3262
03:09:31,280 --> 03:09:33,800
of the Day. What do you have for
us? John, okay,

3263
03:09:33,800 --> 03:09:37,280
John C Dvorak: and this is a
call back to the About two weeks

3264
03:09:37,280 --> 03:09:39,740
ago I talked about a foaming
device you could put in your

3265
03:09:39,740 --> 03:09:42,400
hose, and you can also buy more
expensive ones for your pressure

3266
03:09:42,460 --> 03:09:43,300
washer. This was,

3267
03:09:43,480 --> 03:09:45,940
Adam Curry: this was to foam up
your car. Lot of people were

3268
03:09:45,940 --> 03:09:49,840
happy, including me. I like this
foaming tip. Well,

3269
03:09:49,840 --> 03:09:53,080
John C Dvorak: here's the follow
up to it, which is, and this is,

3270
03:09:53,080 --> 03:09:59,920
Mimi turned me on to this stuff.
Now I had washed my car a few.

3271
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:03,240
Days before that tip, and this
is like two weeks ago, for two

3272
03:10:03,240 --> 03:10:08,340
and a half weeks at least, my
car, and I've washed it before.

3273
03:10:08,340 --> 03:10:12,900
I haven't washed. I washed. I do
that. Not one speck of dust or

3274
03:10:12,900 --> 03:10:16,440
dirt has stuck to the car for
I've never seen anything like

3275
03:10:16,440 --> 03:10:20,840
this for two and a half weeks
and it, and I have to credit it.

3276
03:10:20,840 --> 03:10:21,920
To wait a minute. Did

3277
03:10:21,920 --> 03:10:23,420
Adam Curry: it wash the wax off?

3278
03:10:23,780 --> 03:10:26,300
John C Dvorak: No, the white.
No. It's shiny. Or shiny. I have

3279
03:10:26,300 --> 03:10:32,660
a I have a ceramic coated car.
But and as shiny as can be, it's

3280
03:10:32,720 --> 03:10:36,320
unbelievable, and it's all due
to this product, which Mimi

3281
03:10:36,320 --> 03:10:39,020
says, you know, you got to start
looking at these guys. It's

3282
03:10:39,020 --> 03:10:45,400
called Chemical Guys. Chemical
Guys, and the one I used in this

3283
03:10:45,400 --> 03:10:51,280
case was the watermelon snow
foam auto wash, pH neutral. It

3284
03:10:51,280 --> 03:10:54,640
was foaming agents, and it's got
the list of ingredients. Is

3285
03:10:54,640 --> 03:10:56,740
outrageous, but there's
obviously something in here.

3286
03:10:56,740 --> 03:11:01,080
These guys know what they're
doing for a washing products and

3287
03:11:01,080 --> 03:11:05,340
cleaning products. And you can
they are available on Amazon,

3288
03:11:05,340 --> 03:11:08,160
but they're all over the place.
But the company is Chemical

3289
03:11:08,160 --> 03:11:11,280
Guys, and I would recommend
looking at what they they're

3290
03:11:11,280 --> 03:11:15,240
making. They obviously are
chemists that are high order

3291
03:11:15,240 --> 03:11:18,360
chemists that know what they're
doing. And do you think they

3292
03:11:18,360 --> 03:11:20,900
have a product? No idea how.
Sorry, well, do

3293
03:11:20,900 --> 03:11:23,360
Adam Curry: you think they have
a product that can clean metal

3294
03:11:23,360 --> 03:11:26,240
roofs, like the kind we have in
Texas, that

3295
03:11:26,240 --> 03:11:28,100
John C Dvorak: gets, I think if
you got a hold of you could

3296
03:11:28,100 --> 03:11:30,980
Adam Curry: ask got all the tree
sap on it. It's a dusk,

3297
03:11:31,040 --> 03:11:34,100
John C Dvorak: quite possible.
They do. They have a they guy

3298
03:11:34,100 --> 03:11:37,220
was going over the products with
the Jay, was looking at this

3299
03:11:37,220 --> 03:11:40,660
stuff too, and I and it has
stuff on it, like it has some

3300
03:11:40,720 --> 03:11:45,760
chemicals in here that are kind
of interesting, including

3301
03:11:45,760 --> 03:11:50,440
benzene. Oh, okay, for a car
wash is very unusual, but it

3302
03:11:50,440 --> 03:11:53,020
does take off. The benzene
itself will take off. What

3303
03:11:53,020 --> 03:11:58,480
you're bitching about, it's not
a healthy item. Benzene is,

3304
03:11:58,480 --> 03:12:01,560
don't drink it. Wash your car.
You know, I'm not drinking this

3305
03:12:01,560 --> 03:12:05,100
stuff. I'm sure if you drank
this, this wash, you would be

3306
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:09,840
dead in in minutes. But I'm
telling you, it's I'm still

3307
03:12:09,840 --> 03:12:12,780
stunned the car at this point. I
don't know how that mood there'd

3308
03:12:12,780 --> 03:12:15,660
be months before I have to wash
the car again. There's something

3309
03:12:15,660 --> 03:12:18,660
in here. They're doing. They're
doing something special. And so

3310
03:12:18,660 --> 03:12:21,140
the company's Chemical Guys look
for their products.

3311
03:12:21,140 --> 03:12:24,560
Adam Curry: Check your local
legislation, for products that

3312
03:12:24,560 --> 03:12:27,860
may be banned in your state.
There it is another great tip in

3313
03:12:27,860 --> 03:12:28,280
the middle,

3314
03:12:28,280 --> 03:12:33,140
Unknown: guys, show us your
tips. I'm sorry.

3315
03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:36,800
Adam Curry: I'm sorry I got
startled by that jingle. Thank

3316
03:12:36,800 --> 03:12:39,800
you. Keep the tips coming. We
show your tips every single

3317
03:12:39,800 --> 03:12:43,780
show. We do it for you. That's
right. And that concludes your

3318
03:12:43,780 --> 03:12:50,200
no agenda show in its 16th year.
Episode 1692 we do have some end

3319
03:12:50,200 --> 03:12:53,440
of show mixes. We got Leo le
puke with a classic. We have a

3320
03:12:53,440 --> 03:12:56,920
David kecta bringing us the
backbeat, and Professor Jay

3321
03:12:56,920 --> 03:13:03,300
Jones returns from China with
with another one of his mixes.

3322
03:13:03,840 --> 03:13:08,160
This time, it's about joy. So
you know that's going to be good

3323
03:13:08,460 --> 03:13:11,760
coming up right after the no
agenda show on the stream. If

3324
03:13:11,760 --> 03:13:16,500
you're listening to listening to
us@trollroom.ao or on the modern

3325
03:13:16,500 --> 03:13:20,240
podcast app, we have the mere
mortals book review. Oh, that's

3326
03:13:20,300 --> 03:13:26,300
Kyron from Australia. He'll be
see he's reviewing. It's helpful

3327
03:13:26,300 --> 03:13:30,200
to question everything, the
problems of philosophy. Well,

3328
03:13:30,200 --> 03:13:36,440
that'll keep you awake. Love
Kyron. And I am coming to you

3329
03:13:36,440 --> 03:13:41,800
from the cruise ship capital of
Mexico, right here, a little bit

3330
03:13:41,800 --> 03:13:45,460
north of Puerta Vallarta in the
morning. Everybody. I'm Adam

3331
03:13:45,460 --> 03:13:46,720
curry and

3332
03:13:46,720 --> 03:13:49,420
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I'm not on

3333
03:13:49,420 --> 03:13:53,800
the run in Mexico. I'm John C
Dvorak. Remember

3334
03:13:53,800 --> 03:13:56,500
Adam Curry: us at no agenda,
donations.com, we'll see on

3335
03:13:56,560 --> 03:13:59,920
Sunday, I'll still be here till
then, adios, mofos, a hooey,

3336
03:13:59,920 --> 03:14:00,960
hooey and such.

3337
03:14:02,460 --> 03:14:05,760
Unknown: I'm talking about
dishwashers. I'm talking about

3338
03:14:05,760 --> 03:14:17,820
dishwashers, sinks, toilets,
sinks, toilets and showers. You

3339
03:14:17,820 --> 03:14:21,680
don't get any water. Try going
and buying the new faucet. You

3340
03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:26,300
turn it on, no water comes out.
We won't talk about toilets, but

3341
03:14:26,300 --> 03:14:29,360
how about the shower? I have
this beautiful head of hair. I

3342
03:14:29,360 --> 03:14:33,500
need a lot of water. You turn on
the water, drip, drip, drip,

3343
03:14:33,620 --> 03:14:44,020
drop. It's a very unpleasant
experience. You areas Trump,

3344
03:14:48,280 --> 03:14:51,460
situation where we're looking
very slowly at sinks and showers

3345
03:14:51,460 --> 03:14:57,580
and other elements and
bathrooms. I'm talking about

3346
03:14:57,580 --> 03:15:01,800
dishwashers, sinks, toilets.
Since people are flushing

3347
03:15:01,920 --> 03:15:05,460
bullets 10 times, 15 times,

3348
03:15:05,520 --> 03:15:08,580
why does the Vice President have
what sounds like a Southern

3349
03:15:08,580 --> 03:15:08,940
accent?

3350
03:15:10,320 --> 03:15:13,380
No, I knew what you're talking
about. Well, she was talking

3351
03:15:13,380 --> 03:15:13,620
about

3352
03:15:17,820 --> 03:15:19,380
unions in Detroit, one

3353
03:15:21,300 --> 03:15:25,580
tone of voice, five southern I
mean, do you

3354
03:15:29,720 --> 03:15:32,900
take Americans seriously? Think
that this is an important

3355
03:15:32,900 --> 03:15:35,540
question. They care you want.
They care about, they care about

3356
03:15:35,540 --> 03:15:36,920
the economy. The

3357
03:15:36,920 --> 03:15:40,900
Biden administration taking a
series of actions to target what

3358
03:15:40,900 --> 03:15:44,260
they allege are attempts by
Russian backed actors to

3359
03:15:44,320 --> 03:15:47,140
manipulate public opinion here
in the US

3360
03:15:47,320 --> 03:15:48,880
ahead of the presidential
election,

3361
03:15:49,180 --> 03:15:52,960
according to two senior US
officials joining us, NBC, Ken

3362
03:15:52,960 --> 03:15:57,100
dilang and Ken, what more have
we learned? Jose, this is being

3363
03:15:57,100 --> 03:16:00,280
described by our sources as a
whole of government action

3364
03:16:00,280 --> 03:16:04,020
designed to target Russian
propaganda and disinformation

3365
03:16:04,140 --> 03:16:08,580
aimed at interfering in the 2024
election. It is set to include

3366
03:16:08,580 --> 03:16:11,340
sanctions by the Treasury
Department, law enforcement

3367
03:16:11,340 --> 03:16:13,500
action by the Justice
Department, and one of the

3368
03:16:13,500 --> 03:16:16,980
focuses on RT, formerly known as
Russia today,

3369
03:16:16,980 --> 03:16:20,240
Adam Curry: in her infinite
wisdom, to do her bit for the

3370
03:16:20,240 --> 03:16:25,580
party, NPR has appointed a joy
czar.

3371
03:16:26,420 --> 03:16:27,740
Unknown: No, yes,

3372
03:16:30,440 --> 03:16:35,360
Adam Curry: that's right. I love
that black joy. There's only two

3373
03:16:35,360 --> 03:16:36,440
types of vibes man.

3374
03:16:37,400 --> 03:16:42,460
Unknown: One is hope and joy.
Most elections are vibes

3375
03:16:42,520 --> 03:16:43,060
elections.

3376
03:16:43,060 --> 03:16:46,000
Adam Curry: Who wants to be the
joy czar? No, hands go up.

3377
03:16:46,060 --> 03:16:47,200
John C Dvorak: Is it joy? Behar,

3378
03:16:47,320 --> 03:16:50,560
Unknown: the politics of joy
vibes election that we're all

3379
03:16:50,560 --> 03:16:51,880
feeling right now. Talk about

3380
03:16:51,880 --> 03:16:56,020
Adam Curry: your disinformation.
Ratchet up our joy quotients.

3381
03:16:58,000 --> 03:16:59,860
Unknown: Joy czar, yes,

3382
03:17:01,000 --> 03:17:03,180
it already felt like a vibe
selection before.

3383
03:17:05,700 --> 03:17:09,180
Adam Curry: No one wants to hear
that insinuating he had sex with

3384
03:17:09,180 --> 03:17:09,660
his couch.

3385
03:17:10,620 --> 03:17:11,400
John C Dvorak: I like that
piece.

3386
03:17:13,380 --> 03:17:17,220
Adam Curry: We have the joy
department, Joy Division. That

3387
03:17:17,220 --> 03:17:18,120
should be a donation.

3388
03:17:20,580 --> 03:17:21,920
Unknown: JD Vance said,

3389
03:17:23,600 --> 03:17:24,680
uplifting stories.

3390
03:17:25,820 --> 03:17:26,660
Adam Curry: He hates women.

3391
03:17:28,820 --> 03:17:30,740
Unknown: Vibes, man vibes.

3392
03:17:32,600 --> 03:17:34,760
John C Dvorak: It was pathetic
politics

3393
03:17:34,760 --> 03:17:39,140
Adam Curry: of joy and your joy
quotient for the party.

3394
03:17:39,380 --> 03:17:42,160
Unknown: Isn't that a Nazi
thing. Most selections provide

3395
03:17:42,160 --> 03:17:43,660
selections because it

3396
03:17:45,220 --> 03:17:47,080
John C Dvorak: took them two
days to edit it down.

3397
03:17:48,100 --> 03:17:55,000
Adam Curry: Black joy on screen.
Live Joy Division, Nazis. A lot

3398
03:17:55,000 --> 03:18:00,280
of corn, sweat stuff. Stating
your policy is a very dumb move.

3399
03:18:00,640 --> 03:18:03,000
Ratchet up our joy quotient,

3400
03:18:03,600 --> 03:18:04,560
Unknown: distraction.org/n.

3401
03:18:17,100 --> 03:18:20,400
A, hey, that actually wasn't so
bad. You.