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John C Dvorak: Hey babe, just
give me a call on my page. I'll

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meet you.

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Unknown: Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, it's Thursday,

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Adam Curry: September 19, 2024
this year, award winning. Give

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our nation media assassination
Episode 1696,

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Unknown: this is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: finding our freakoff
and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas. No country
here in FEMA Region, number six

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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.

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John C Dvorak: And for Northern
Silicon Valley, where everybody

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agrees it's Trump's fault. I'm
John C Dvorak

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Unknown: buzzkill in the
morning.

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Adam Curry: I love the the nose
blow was pretty good. Well.

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Timed, yeah.

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John C Dvorak: Timed. Well,

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Adam Curry: hey. I've got good
news and bad news.

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Unknown: Yeah,

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Adam Curry: yeah. Shall I give
you the bad news first?

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John C Dvorak: As long as the
good news isn't quote, that's

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all the bad news. There is no
no.

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Adam Curry: The bad news is
World War Three is underway. The

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good news, it's asymmetrical
warfare. It's drones and

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devices. This is a no one
expected this. We all thought

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nukes like, oh, it's going to be
nuclear. No, no. This is, I

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mean, it's, first of all, it's
humorous. Second, it's obviously

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John C Dvorak: very, very sick,
very sick way. It's a very sick

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way is humorous. It's very sad,
of course.

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Adam Curry: I wonder how many
people really want to still

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upgrade to the iPhone 16 at this
point. It gives you, gives you

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some things to think about

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John C Dvorak: not feeling
really good about the phone in

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the drawer. Or,

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Adam Curry: how about your Icom
or bell Fang, you know, these

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are not good devices to have
anymore. Or, apparently your

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solar installation. This is
here's TRT, who I think have

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been doing the best reporting on
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Unknown: Lebanon has been rocked
by a second wave of blasts, this

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time linked to handheld radios.
Smoke rises in Ceylon in South

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Lebanon. It's just one of
multiple blasts in different

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parts of the country, including
here at this phone shop. The new

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wave of explosions comes a day
after 1000s of pages used by

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Hezbollah members exploded,
killing a dozen people and

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wounding 1000s. At least one of
the blasts took place near a

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funeral held for several people
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Beirut. Here, ambulance forced
to break up mourners. Two solar

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panel systems have reportedly
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that were extinguished.
Hospitals are inundated, and the

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public have been called on to
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Adam Curry: This is incredible.
Solar installations, handheld

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radios, pagers. This is this is
some this is new. This was not

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expected.

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John C Dvorak: It wasn't
expected, but it hasn't been

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tested. Well, in 96 they
actually killed some guy with a

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Adam Curry: Well, we've had that
actually. I went back and looked

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in our archives. It wasn't quite
the same, but we we were joking

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about it. Then, if you remember,
do you remember this jingle? I

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Unknown: The

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Adam Curry: laptop of doom. You
remember that? No, I don't. It

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was a it was, let me see episode
797, I think this was goodness.

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This is a long time ago. I
pulled the clip, but they also

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found the laptop that was
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Unknown: is that the device that
investigators believe was the

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explosive device was actually a
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Adam Curry: You know, as you
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Unknown: explosive device either

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inside the laptop, or it was
needed a laptop, so

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Adam Curry: it was inside the
laptop. But this, this is like

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mi six CIA Mossad level

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Unknown: stuff, definitely.

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Adam Curry: France 24 had I
found the best report of tracing

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back the pagers. I really looked
around and everybody had

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something. And, you know, I love

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John C Dvorak: where they take
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Unknown: listen the simultaneous

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explosions of 1000s of Hezbollah
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devices raised many questions,
and some of those are starting

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to get answers on the method
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official told the AFP that
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devices, P, E, N T, this
material is very powerful yet

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relatively easy to conceal. It's
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were integrated along with a
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The model used is an AR nine to
four from Taiwanese brand Golda

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Polo. The company immediately
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A factory based in Budapest. BAC
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manufacture the pagers, but
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warehouse at the company's
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government confirms BAC is a
trading intermediary with no

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manufacturing or operational
site in Hungary the quote

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reference devices have never
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created two years ago, has one
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logo of a Japanese brand, I come
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producing the model 10 years
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these attacks, the operating
mode and the target point to one

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country, Israel, although it has
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Adam Curry: that's pretty deep,
man, well,

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John C Dvorak: I've heard all
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it all points to Israel. Well,
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real too. But where's the
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Adam Curry: Jews are responsible
for everything? What are you

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talking about? We know this.

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John C Dvorak: I think I'm just
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with something a little more
substantial than these, you

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know, non existent factory. I
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that might be doesn't really add
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perspective slightly for

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Unknown: the second day,

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John C Dvorak: I'm sorry

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Unknown: for the second day in a
row, explosions ripped across

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Lebanon as Hezbollah's handheld
radios exploded. At least 14

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people were killed and hundreds
were injured. Entity's Jason

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chaos filled the streets of
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row as another wave of
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throughout the country. This
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exploded, killing at least 14
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450 according to Lebanon's
health ministry, a Lebanese

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Doctor shared his experience
taking care of the injured.

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Adam Curry: Of course, since
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Yesterday, we saw the extent of
the damage and wounds. We were

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working nonstop. I took my first
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office, and now I came back in
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Unknown: and an electronic store
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concerns about not knowing what
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here that we believed were 100%
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A Lebanese woman said she was
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explosions throughout the
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For sure, we are not afraid. We
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Hezbollah in Lebanon, and we
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Everything happening now is
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willing to endure for him, my
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husband

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Israel has not claimed
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it's behind the recent
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defense minister said this on
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that when you look at the
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Defense Forces have made
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with the Shin Bet Security
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Adam Curry: I think that kind of
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John C Dvorak: that, you know,

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Unknown: but I don't know about
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John C Dvorak: don't see this
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then there's this woman going on
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of Hezbollah is always a God,
which is something screwy. Yeah.

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Unknown: said the war is
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Israel is now shifting its focus
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Wednesday, the Israeli Air Force
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in southern Lebanon. Nearly
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Israel have been displaced from
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attacks from the Iran backed
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Wednesday, Israel's Prime
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Israel will return the citizens
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Adam Curry: I doubt that this
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we've would it? No, we've
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Gaza. Gaza just is no longer
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know that, of course, is the is
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because there's nothing left to
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dead and everything's bombed
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good luck with the hostages,

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John C Dvorak: the hell of them.

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Adam Curry: So. So the next
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everyone's interested in is, so
where did this conversion take

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place? Which, you know, is
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Unknown: in Taipei, reporters
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office of gold Apollo, the
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linked to those pagers. The
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insists his firm didn't supply
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to a Hungarian company licensed
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Hungarian officials say the
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country, as for those walkie
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radios were reportedly marked
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look at the entire chain of the
vendors Oleg brought

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University. He says electronics
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components, and the vendor of
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stage of the chain, and think
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whether it's the battery
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assembly facility, whether it's
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defense minister didn't claim
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country's army and security
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Adam Curry: So you know more
about this than I do, but these

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supply chains, they can be quite
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John C Dvorak: Well, the way
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various people in the tech
industry for this. They've set

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up, you know, the just in time
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developed by HP, I think, and
then affected by Apple, yeah,

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you get stuff from all over the
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time, and you put the device
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anything, and you can't keep
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somebody could do a man in the
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of symbolically, where you just
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aspects of the supply chain, and
you can, but this, these were

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old products, like the that I
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time is old, yeah, yeah. So
there's something, there's

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something more sinister, where
they somehow, I think they got a

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bunch of gear, put it in some,
some warehouse in the UK, or who

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knows where, and then slipped it
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channel, because it was best
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Adam Curry: I got, I got it fell
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John C Dvorak: so the Hezbollah
guys, there's maybe even a mole

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in Hezbollah itself that
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Adam Curry: recorded somewhere.
I didn't capture it that someone

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had figured it out, and so they
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they blew that guy up. But what
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John C Dvorak: figured it out.
He wouldn't be carrying the

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device. So I question that
story, but yeah,

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Adam Curry: so I wonder, did
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these, these pages, are not like
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network, you know, they're on a
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the area. So it, it seems to me,
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operate on those frequencies,
certainly if they were, and most

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icons, I think, are software
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ones. So it's, it's just mind
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Hezbollah was going, oh, man, we
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tracking our cell phones. So
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that was the thing that did them
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don't really know how many
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over, like 2700 people were
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blast radius of these pagers, I
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For sure. We don't know anything
about it. We have nothing,

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nothing. Oh, good information.

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John C Dvorak: Here's

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Adam Curry: a rear I don't
here's Rear Admiral Kirby

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Unknown: Admiral. What's the
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exploding walkie talkies

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in Lebanon today? I know Karine
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what's the latest US assessment,
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does the US consider this a
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I can tell you is we were not
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in yesterday's incidents or
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John C Dvorak: So he jumps to
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Adam Curry: We're not involved.
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John C Dvorak: suspicious. We're

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Adam Curry: not involved. That's
the Hey, Adam,

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John C Dvorak: how you doing? I
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Adam Curry: We're not involved.
We're not involved in

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yesterday's incidents

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Unknown: or today's in any way.
And I don't have anything more

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the Israelis let you

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know about these operations, I

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don't have anything more to
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the US assessment that the
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behind all this year.

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Adam Curry: You know that
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the press corps. I have nothing
to share, nothing. So you have

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something. You just can't share
it. They okay. I found this,

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this clip from t, R t, where
they they say, The United

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Nations says one thing about
this, because, of course, they

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condemn it. But then the head of
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Secretary General, Guterres,
says something completely

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different, and quite smugly, I
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Unknown: first of its kind,
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has compromised Hezbollah's
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described as unprecedented and
an act of digital warfare. The

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UN says civilian objects should
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logic of making all these
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preemptive strike before a major
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as important as the event in
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this event confirms that there
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escalation in Lebanon, and
everything must be done to avoid

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that escalation.

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Adam Curry: So we didn't really
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John C Dvorak: they just said,
Oh, they were about to begin, I

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should mention it. They

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Adam Curry: were about to
undertake a measure, measure,

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measure, uh, whatever.

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John C Dvorak: There was also a
comment in there I thought was

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screwy, which was civilian
devices should not be

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weaponized. Tell that to car
bombers, yeah, they've been

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weaponized forever. Civilian
devices are always weaponized,

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just a new, creative way.

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Adam Curry: Well, what I take
away from this is, this is the

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new this is like the sixth
generation of warfare, the fifth

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being psychological operations.
And this is, by itself, a cycle

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psychological operation, because
really, nobody can now know if

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your device is safe or not.

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John C Dvorak: The good news,
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Adam Curry: you don't have one.

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John C Dvorak: Besides the good
news for me, because my devices

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are all in a drawer downstairs,
but it did blow up the dining

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room. The good news is maybe
they'll force manufacturers of

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these devices to make sure you
can open them up and take the

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battery out. Yeah, that's not
going to happen. It's got to

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happen because you don't know
what's in these things. A little

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small piece of explosive
material, some Semtech with a

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Adam Curry: This is in the EULA.
Your device may explode. We

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have, we

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John C Dvorak: will be in the
EULA next, the next EULA will

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say this, if

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Adam Curry: your device
explodes, we have no

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responsibility. Yeah, wow, but
it really, it's, everything has

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come down. I mean, we're all
talking about, oh, long range

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missiles, no, nuclear war, no,
no. If I was, if I was like

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Zelensky or Putin or anybody,
even Trump. Trump shouldn't be

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using a phone anymore. Keep it
away from them, and think of all

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that we could have, exploding,
televisions, exploding, well,

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the laptop, anything, anything
could, this was undetectable.

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The there's blah, you know, they
have, there's blood. They have

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dog, you know, they have dogs
that sniff out explosives.

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They're pretty good at
protecting themselves. No, this

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was, this was next level,
thinking, completely unexpected.

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So, and, you know, and how about
you don't even need one of those

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bigger Iranian drones anymore.
Just get one of those, you know,

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those little consumer jobbies,
fly down, blow up in your face.

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This is the next level. So, so,
as I said, is I'm kind of happy

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because, you know, I just don't
see nuclear being necessary

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anymore. And you know, if you
look at Ukraine, Russia doesn't

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want to blow up Ukraine. They
don't want to nuke it. They

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don't want to radiate it. They
want it. They want whatever

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pieces they're interested in or
believe belongs to them. They

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want to keep it pure, just like
even minds are. Dumb now. Now

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this is, this is this is next.
How about your Starlink blowing

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up next? Anything? I don't want
to freak people out, but I'm

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glad I have my Pixel six running
graphene. Os six running

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grapheneos, I bet it is. I'm

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Unknown: not on the battery
blows up by itself. No, well,

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Adam Curry: there's that. Can I
actually take the battery out of

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this thing? I think I can.

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John C Dvorak: I think I can the
early Google phones. You could

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easily get the battery out and
replace it,

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Adam Curry: yeah, I think I can
take it out of the pixel six,

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Unknown: yeah. Well,

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Adam Curry: other than boots on
the ground from Lebanon. One of

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our producer's brother is living
in Beirut, trying to sell off

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all his stuff and get out

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Unknown: big Good luck.

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Adam Curry: He says that
actually, he says it's so bad in

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Lebanon, particularly the
banking we don't want to hear

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much about that anymore, but he
said a lot of the younger

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Lebanese wish that Israel would
just take over so it would have

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financial stability. It's really
the older generation that are

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the warmongers. You're only
allowed to withdraw a certain

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amount of money from your bank
account each day. One woman's

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sister had cancer. I'm not quite
sure how it fits into the story,

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but she got a gun. I guess she
wanted treatment, got a gun,

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went to her bank, withdrew as
much as they would give her, and

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then fled the country. He says,
you look at the banks, there's

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bullet holes in the walls
everywhere. People are just

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trying to get their money. It's
crazy. Street lights are off.

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Potholes. They got big potholes.
Potholes, really big potholes.

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That's the biggest, that's the
biggest gripe they have. They

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got potholes everywhere. So, you
know what's next? What what will

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be the next thing to go? I mean,
you know that they've got it in

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some cell phones. Now, it'll be
crazy not to do that. This is

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the the Castro exploding cigar
Gambit

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Unknown: taken to the next
level. Yeah. So I don't know

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what in the Middle

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John C Dvorak: East is, just
like it is here. These people

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are walking around with a phone
in their hand. Even more so they

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walk down the street,

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Adam Curry: yeah, even more. So
well, I'm telling you, You

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should be glad you've got that
old crappy Android, which you

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never use. I mean, you'll just
never use it now, and I'm sure

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you have a pager somewhere.

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John C Dvorak: No, I, you know,
I've never had a pager in my

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life. Oh, I

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Adam Curry: do. You remember
when I had the two way pager and

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I was abusing that instead of,
no, I've tried every I've had

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aprs, you know, text messages go
to aprs on ham radio. It's all

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very complicated. It's not, it's
not gonna know why you do not a

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great way, not a great way, to
date. Honestly, it was kind of

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hard date. Yeah, back in the day
you

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John C Dvorak: used a pager.
Hey, babe, just give me a call

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on my page or I'll meet you. No,

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Adam Curry: no, the text
messages would go to the pager,

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and then I could reply from the
pager. It was, I don't know. I

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was just doing stuff, okay,
yeah, I was trying, you know,

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trying to catch a hot chick like
Tina, Hey, baby.

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John C Dvorak: Hey, check out my
pager, look, it's on my belt.

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Adam Curry: they're cool. Pages
are still kind of cool.

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John C Dvorak: They're never
been cool,

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Adam Curry: yeah, they Yeah,
kind

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John C Dvorak: of cool. Yeah,
they

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Adam Curry: are, bro, I think it
is, yeah. Well, not anymore. No,

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no, the pager just become very
literally hot, not cool. So,

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John C Dvorak: so there's a
stink going on out here in the

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West Coast. I want to get this
out of the way. This is, yeah,

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Adam Curry: it's called Los
Angeles or San Francisco, a

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different kind

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John C Dvorak: of stink. Oh,
okay, so Newsom signed a bill,

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yeah,

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Adam Curry: yeah. Is this the AI
bill?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, he signed
some stupid bill saying it's

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illegal. You're gonna try to
trick people with AI even

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though, you know it's like,
okay, yeah. So immediately, and

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I have the clip here. It's the
AI clip. It's immediately the

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Babylon B does an ad violating
this, the Newsom. Newsom's law,

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his law, Newsom's law, which is
unconstitutional. There's no

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doubt about it. And it's and
stupid. I mean, it's like

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desperate because it's over. I
mean, you're gonna have these

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things going on, these, these,
you know, they're funny, yeah,

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Harris saying something dumb,
and all the rest. But play this

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Hi.

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Unknown: I'm Gavin Newsom, the
governor of California. This is

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a message for the people of
America given in my

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authentically recorded non AI
voice. Thanks to my leadership

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over the last several years,
California has. Become a world

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leader in extremist left wing
governance. My policies were so

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effective that almost 1 million
people are now fleeing the state

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every year. We even ran out of U
hauls during the covid pandemic.

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I locked everyone in their homes
and shut down businesses for

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months, not the French Laundry,
though that's my favorite

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restaurant. Last year, I cleaned
up the dangerous, messy Streets

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of San Francisco, you know,
because Chinese communist

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President Xi was coming, and I
really wanted to impress him.

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He's my boss. After all this
year, I signed legislation that

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allows me to take custody of
your kid if you refuse to give

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him artificial hormones and chop
off his genitals, because if you

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don't do that, you're a bigot,
and bigots shouldn't be allowed

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to have kids. I've also led the
way in green energy by banning

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all cars that don't run on
electricity. Then I banned

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almost all the electricity. This
is smart leadership. On my

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watch, the cost of living and
homelessness have skyrocketed.

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Schools are failing, drug
dealers and human traffickers

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are pouring across the border,
and poop has covered the

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sidewalks of San Francisco. This
is the positive, joyful vision

451
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,100
we offer as Democrats. That's
why I'm enthusiastically

452
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:14,340
endorsing Kamala Harris for
President in 2024 she'll do to

453
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:17,820
the country everything I did in
California. Anyway, I'm

454
00:26:17,820 --> 00:26:20,780
California Governor Gavin
Newsom, and I approve this 100%

455
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,200
real message, which is a
recording of my voice without

456
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,000
the assistance of any AI
whatsoever. This isn't a deep

457
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,500
fake, and you can rest assured
that it isn't, because I just

458
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:38,900
signed an unconstitutional law
outlawing deep fakes. No one

459
00:26:39,020 --> 00:26:43,240
would dare violate it. Thank you
and science, bless America.

460
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,420
Adam Curry: Have you? Have you
looked at the text of the bill?

461
00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:50,920
John C Dvorak: I only glanced at
it. You? Have you? Yeah,

462
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:58,300
Adam Curry: so it's, it's a b2,
839, which really accelerated a

463
00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:04,860
previous bill, a, b2, 655, which
requires large online platforms

464
00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:10,500
to remove or remove or label
deceptive and digitally altered

465
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,980
or created content related to
elections during specific

466
00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:18,480
periods, and requires them to
provide mechanisms to report

467
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,880
such content. It also authorizes
candidates, elected officials,

468
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,660
elected elections officials, the
Attorney General and a district

469
00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:29,780
attorney or city attorney to
seek injunctive relief against a

470
00:27:29,780 --> 00:27:33,620
large online platform for non
compliance with the act. So

471
00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:37,940
it's, it's a little different
than B is being portrayed. I of

472
00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:43,120
course, it's should still be
deemed unconstitutional, but

473
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,600
he's trying to shoehorn this in
to protect our democracy, or

474
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,920
something of the like,

475
00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:52,180
John C Dvorak: which, well, of
course, and immediately this

476
00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:56,800
reminds me of the idiot Prime
Minister and Elmer Fudd

477
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,740
character down in Australia. Oh,
yeah. Well, this is all who

478
00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:04,380
tried to ban memes, and the
first thing that happens, of

479
00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:08,460
course, is a million memes.
Yeah, targeting him,

480
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:15,060
Adam Curry: yeah. Can we agree
that this type of work with

481
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:21,380
video and audio, that that is
not AI, but it is, in fact, CGI,

482
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:27,740
that's a that's a more it's like
computer generated imagery with

483
00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:32,600
text input. And this is, this is
not artificial, and it doesn't

484
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,740
even have anything to do with
intelligence. I think that

485
00:28:36,740 --> 00:28:37,700
should be made clear.

486
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,920
John C Dvorak: I think that's a
good point. It's, it's CG, and

487
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440
I'm not going to argue with it.
I think you're right. Most of

488
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,860
it, you know, there's just the
moniker that showed up, and now

489
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:50,680
everyone's just attaching it to
everything. But you could have

490
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,800
done this. It's just a bunch of
very interesting algorithms.

491
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,200
Yeah. I mean, what's the, what's
the AI part of it?

492
00:29:01,260 --> 00:29:05,280
Adam Curry: No, there's zero AI
part. But, oh, you know, AI,

493
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,260
that's all very, very, very
impressive. Very, very

494
00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:14,400
impressive. I think that this is
the only thing it should be used

495
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,180
for. AI is great for this. It is
great for parody and humor. And

496
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,900
you can't, I mean, you can't,
you're gonna see even songs that

497
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,780
are made with it has to be
labeled as all as parody. Well,

498
00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:28,640
John C Dvorak: here, here's the
other thing about that

499
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,580
particular bit, that the Newsom
phony ad, you can get a good

500
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,780
comedic image mimicker. There's
or that woman a couple, there's

501
00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:44,020
a couple of women that do,
Kamala Harrison, she could just

502
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:47,440
do the voice, is that going to
be illegal? Because, you know,

503
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,120
there is an intelligence
involved there. Well, this is an

504
00:29:52,180 --> 00:29:56,680
illegal to now mock somebody by,
you know, sounding like them.

505
00:29:57,220 --> 00:29:59,620
Adam Curry: Well, if you're a
politician during an election

506
00:29:59,620 --> 00:30:03,480
year. Large platform, which I
don't think includes podcasts,

507
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:09,540
needs to include a label. You
know, it doesn't say that you

508
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:13,260
it's mandatory to take it down.
It says it has to be labeled as

509
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,720
as parody or fake or CGI, yeah,
because,

510
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,440
John C Dvorak: heaven forbid the
public can't spot this stuff.

511
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,260
Well, you know, that's a genuine
Gavin Newsom commercial. Yes,

512
00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:32,120
Adam Curry: that sounds pretty
real to me. No, you know, from

513
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,480
the party of joy, they really
are taking the joy out of

514
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,020
everything,

515
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,020
John C Dvorak: aren't they?
Party of crazy, party of joy.

516
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:39,320
Behar,

517
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,120
Adam Curry: taking everything
out. All the joy is going out.

518
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,800
Do you mind if I do a little
diddy Stein stuff for a moment?

519
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:55,540
Who did he Stein? You know,
maybe I should say Diddy Steen.

520
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah. We talking
about, did he daddy?

521
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:02,760
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got Diddy,
Diddy Epstein, did he Steen?

522
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:06,540
John C Dvorak: Oh, did oh,
you're trying to be, oh, that's,

523
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,500
that's cute, yeah. Well, well, I
would be interested. I'm, I'm,

524
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:13,140
I'll listen to this for sure,
because I've been very

525
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:16,620
suspicious about the whole thing
from the get go. Well, the

526
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:21,200
Adam Curry: timing is what's
suspicious. The timing is before

527
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:29,300
the election, and I don't think
it's, it is related to trying to

528
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:33,260
get rid of Trump and to shut
people up about certain things.

529
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:37,760
This has been brewing for a
long, long time. And you know,

530
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Diddy Steen himself has been out
there naming off names. This

531
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,020
whole freak off thing has been
the subject of YouTube videos

532
00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:50,800
for months. There's all kinds of
people have been talking about

533
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,580
it, so starting to come to a
head. And here's a backgrounder

534
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:55,240
that I got this

535
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Unknown: morning. Sean Diddy
Combs is behind bars, locked up

536
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,780
on racketeering and sex
trafficking charges that make

537
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:03,420
the music mogul sound like a
monster between

538
00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:08,340
at least 2008 and the present
combs abuse threatened and

539
00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:11,940
coerced victims to fulfill his
sexual desires, protect his

540
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:14,580
reputation and conceal his
conduct.

541
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,020
Home seen here smiling with his
children the day before his

542
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,740
arrest is being held without
bail, with several of his

543
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:24,320
children watching in court,
combs pleaded not guilty to

544
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200
charges he led a criminal
enterprise that subjected young

545
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,620
women to violence, use of
firearms, threats, coercion and

546
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:34,520
verbal, emotional, physical and
sexual abuse. The 14 page

547
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,700
indictment alleging combs
manipulated women to participate

548
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,020
in highly orchestrated
performances of sexual activity

549
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:44,200
with male prostitutes called
freakoffs. He

550
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,980
used the embarrassing and
sensitive recordings he made of

551
00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:51,280
the freakoffs as collateral
against the victims.

552
00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:54,160
Prosecutors said authorities
seized the records along with

553
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,940
firearms, drugs and more than
1000 bottles of baby oil and

554
00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:02,340
lubricant during raids last
month in Miami and Los Angeles,

555
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,380
the indictment describes
aggressive, open, violent,

556
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,880
hedonistic abuse that you say
was recurrent and widely known.

557
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,260
Why did it take law enforcement
so long to intervene? How many

558
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:20,160
women were victimized by Sean
Combs and how many others were

559
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,720
involved?

560
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:24,020
Look, our investigation is
ongoing. We are committed to

561
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:27,500
bringing justice everyone who's
been victimized by the

562
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,280
defendant. I can't tell you why
it took so long. I think the

563
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,580
better focus is on the fact that
we are here today, and we are

564
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:36,320
committed to making sure that
justice is

565
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,920
done. His attorney, promising a
vigorous defense, saying those

566
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,600
freakoffs were nothing more than
consenting adults experiencing

567
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,380
intimacy.

568
00:33:44,620 --> 00:33:47,980
Adam Curry: So you laughed at it
too, when I when I heard the

569
00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:51,520
when they heard the words of the
of the prosecution, like, oh,

570
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,600
okay, so you, you really don't
have that much. And of course,

571
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,960
we have the the indictment,
which is now unsealed because it

572
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,780
was one of 1000s that are still
sealed, but the main thing we

573
00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:07,860
need to do with our M 5m media
is just focus on the show

574
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:12,840
business aspect. Focus on the
show business aspect. TMZ, help

575
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,820
us out. You know, good morning,
Brian

576
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:17,820
Unknown: and Natalie. I got to
tell you my thoughts reading the

577
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:23,360
14 page indictment yesterday
were that there is going to be,

578
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:26,180
there are a lot of people in
Hollywood. We're probably

579
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:29,660
worried about which Diddy
parties they were at and what

580
00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:33,680
was going on. That's not to say
that they were necessarily even

581
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,580
involved in any of the things
that are alleged by the US

582
00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:40,960
Attorney's Office. But if you're
at that party, and it turns out

583
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,400
that that's when he set up one
of these freakoff sex parties,

584
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,880
or that it was going on in
another room and you didn't know

585
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,060
about it. There's a good chance
that you're going to be called

586
00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:55,120
by the U S attorney's office if
you're and certainly if you were

587
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,900
involved, you would get a call,
because they're going to want to

588
00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:01,740
know everything you want to.
Ellen may even want you to be a

589
00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:04,980
witness. I just think, you know,
we're just starting to scratch

590
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:09,420
the surface of what this case,
who is this case, is going to

591
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:14,460
touch and involve. And the feds
have said that this remains an

592
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:18,120
open investigation. There could
be more charges for Diddy, there

593
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,860
could be more charges for other
people involved. And usually the

594
00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:24,680
way this works is, once they
find out other people are

595
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,000
involved or were witnesses, they
bring them in, and they sort of

596
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400
lean on them, and it's sort of
like you're going to cooperate

597
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,160
with us, or there's a
possibility that you could face

598
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:41,320
charges. So this is going to be
a slow developing case here,

599
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,260
because we're just getting
started, and I don't see how

600
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:47,320
this trial begins anytime before
next year, yeah,

601
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,320
Adam Curry: until after the
election. Yeah, exactly. That's

602
00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:54,460
that's the reason for doing this
all now, because and the people

603
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:58,300
who are involved in this, and by
the way, Diddy, Diddy Steen

604
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:02,700
being gay, is like, Okay, this
is, like the oldest news ever.

605
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Who is Diddy Steen's boss? He
has a boss. You know? It's Clive

606
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,800
Davis. Clive Davis, who, during
his I think third or fourth

607
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,700
marriage, said, You know, I'm
really kind of gay, and I'm

608
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:20,300
having a good time over here
with all the gay guys. So I'm

609
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:26,300
going to call myself bi or
whatever. There is what's Rick

610
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:29,600
Ross. I mean all these guys,
there's a lot of gay and hip

611
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:37,820
hop, and there is such a an
injection, infusion of all kinds

612
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:42,100
of businesses, with the music
business, which, if you think

613
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:46,300
it's a perfect racket, I mean,
it really is a gangster racket,

614
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:50,140
because I've learned with even
just with value for value music,

615
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,620
if you have a good song and you
can play it for someone, and you

616
00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:56,860
they hear it three times, you
can make it a hit. I mean, it's

617
00:36:56,860 --> 00:36:59,140
just a fact. That's how it
works. So if you have control,

618
00:36:59,140 --> 00:37:03,240
that's how payola used to work
out. Oh, yeah, totally. Now you

619
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,660
don't need payola because the
record companies are the literal

620
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:10,860
owners of Spotify. I mean, some
of them sold their stock when

621
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:14,280
they kind of did that weird
public off. I did it. I did it.

622
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:16,260
It's now 10 nine.

623
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:18,240
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's 10
nine. They did

624
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:21,200
Adam Curry: that strange public
offering, which wasn't really a

625
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,440
public offering, was a liquidity
event for the insider, the

626
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,820
inside holders. And if you know
how Spotify works, it's all

627
00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:33,920
based upon playlists that you
have to pay to get on. And these

628
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,760
playlists are operated by the
record companies. I mean, the

629
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,660
whole thing is it just pushes
music to the forefront

630
00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:46,600
continuously. There's also an
interesting connection between,

631
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,400
if you remember this, I think
it's the Malaysian one MBD Fund,

632
00:37:52,060 --> 00:37:56,200
which it had the guy, I think
the whole bunch of musicians

633
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,040
were involved in this. I think
also the guy from Black Eyed

634
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Peas and money went to Pharrell
Williams, and, you know, a

635
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,440
couple million went to Kim
Kardashian. And it was, you

636
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,000
know, stolen money is, I mean,
it's all, all crazy kinds of

637
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,980
money that's floating around.
Oh, yeah. Now this, this

638
00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:21,440
diddystein, these freak offs,
which is just a perfect name for

639
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,220
it. They were all videotaped, so
they're sitting on videotapes.

640
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:27,860
But please don't, don't think
about that. You don't hear too

641
00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:31,820
much about it. Even his lawyer,
who was by himself, a very

642
00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:36,980
interesting character, Mark
ignifio. Now, what is Mark

643
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:47,740
agnifio done previously? He
defended Keith Rainier, the

644
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:53,200
founder of Nexium. You remember
that the sex, sex cult, sex cult

645
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,760
with the Bronfman girls? Was it
mom and daughter, if I remember

646
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:05,040
correctly, he also, he also, oh,
here you go. He also represented

647
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,600
Roger ng of Goldman Sachs, who
was convicted in 2022, of

648
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,860
bribery and corruption involving
the Malaysian sovereign wealth

649
00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:17,700
fund. So there's a lot of things
that tie. I don't have all the

650
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:22,820
answers. A lot of things that
tie together, but this arrest is

651
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,320
untimely for the crimes or
whatever you know the it's all

652
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:34,280
allegations from a grand jury
and agnifico and niflco appeared

653
00:39:34,340 --> 00:39:39,560
on CNN with Caitlin. Do you know
what the Caitlyn used to be a

654
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,680
blogger for the daily wire. She
used to go on Fox News all the

655
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,220
time. Caitlin, who Collins, the
CNN, the new CNN girl who with

656
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:55,360
the with the unfriendly face.
Oh, that one. Yeah. She used to

657
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,000
work for the, she used to be a,
like a right, a right wing

658
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,620
blogger for daily wire. You
know,

659
00:39:59,620 --> 00:40:02,760
John C Dvorak: these? People. It
really annoying. This reminds me

660
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,320
of, remember that that guy was,
I can't remember that gruff

661
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,260
character who was like a right
winger, then he went to work for

662
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:16,860
CNN. He was a left winger, and
he was Ed Schultz. And then

663
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,900
Schultz went to RT, where he
became and he died. And then he

664
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,780
died. Yeah, he went to RT. Then
he became a kind of a Russian

665
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:27,680
asset, and then he died.
Flipping around. These guys are

666
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,780
not they have no allegiance
whatsoever. They just, you know,

667
00:40:32,780 --> 00:40:35,240
oh, you're telling me. Oh, I how
much you gonna pay me to be a

668
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:39,320
right winger? How much you gonna
pay me to spew left wing

669
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:45,220
propaganda? It's really
pathetic. I don't really have a

670
00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:46,660
lot of respect for those folk

671
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,060
Adam Curry: well, and she has
that Joker mouth, like she has

672
00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:53,440
kind of those high corners of
her mouth, notice in Joker

673
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,800
mouth. Anyway, here she is with,
with Diddy's lawyer, of the guy

674
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,540
who was, who was intimately
familiar with all kinds of

675
00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:04,860
shenanigans. And he has it makes
a very interesting point about

676
00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:06,600
what the indictment really says.

677
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:08,400
Unknown: When you read through
the indictment, they say that

678
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,920
there's not just one victim.
They say there's multiple

679
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,040
victims here today. And what I
heard described was they said

680
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,340
they have 50 witnesses or
victims. Yeah, I

681
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:21,260
think it's 49 witnesses and one
victim. I think if you broke it

682
00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:24,260
down, and I say that because
count two, which is a sex

683
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:26,900
trafficking count, has victim
number one, and there is no

684
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,240
victim number two anywhere in
the indictment.

685
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,420
So you're saying that there are
not other women. Because what

686
00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:35,300
they were essentially arguing
here is that he coerced and

687
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,660
forced women into sex acts by
using physical force, financial

688
00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:41,320
pressure, emotional abuse and
narcotics for what they

689
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,800
described as these freak off
sessions. They say that he self

690
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,240
described them as that.

691
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:49,360
Yeah, there's one victim in the
indictment. That's that the

692
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,520
charging victim does count,
right? No, no, of course, but

693
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,520
I'm just not it's not 50. I
mean, what they did is a little

694
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,840
too cute. Is, is 50 witnesses or
victims? Well, it's, it's one

695
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,700
victim. That's all that's in the
indictment. Our

696
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:03,120
reporter, who was in the
courtroom today, said that he

697
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,780
appeared to have a stunned
expression on his face. Was he

698
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:09,060
surprised that he was arrested
last night?

699
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:13,380
No, he definitely was not. I
mean, I told him myself in early

700
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:16,620
September, you are going to be
arrested soon, and you're going

701
00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:18,780
to be charged with racketeering
and charged with sex

702
00:42:18,780 --> 00:42:22,160
trafficking. So come to New
York. There wasn't a long

703
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,700
conversation. He agreed. So we
knew this was coming, and in

704
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:27,920
fact, we offered that he would
turn himself in.

705
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Adam Curry: So there was really
only if I understand it, and

706
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,000
I've read it as from what I can
understand from the legalese.

707
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,660
I'm sure rob the constitutional
lawyer will check it out. He

708
00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:43,060
loves this kind of stuff. There
was one victim. And the victim,

709
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:47,080
quote, unquote, was a male
prostitute who was trafficked

710
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,960
across state lines, which is
kind of this, very reminiscent

711
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,920
of Epstein. And everyone else
was like, Well, we were kind of

712
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,980
there having a good time at the
freakoff and, you know, so you

713
00:42:56,980 --> 00:42:58,840
make 14 pages of,

714
00:42:59,080 --> 00:42:59,860
Unknown: well, you know, he

715
00:42:59,860 --> 00:43:02,760
Adam Curry: had guns and you had
lube, lots of lube, which, you

716
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,700
know, no one can no one get past
the 1000 bottles of lube. I

717
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:08,880
mean, that's just crazy. What
kind of free costs were you

718
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:18,720
doing? The women who were not
happy, they're not listed as

719
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,680
victims in the in the
indictment, as it stands, they

720
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,320
have civil suits against him.
They've all been trying to get

721
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,740
money out of him, but still only
one victim that's pretty

722
00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:30,260
Unknown: powerful, though, to
have that many people who have

723
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,560
if they go to court and argue
that they that they witnessed

724
00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:37,580
this behavior by your client.
Well, defensive against

725
00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:42,460
so my defense is very well
established. I interviewed

726
00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:49,000
myself to different men who were
being brought, sort of into Mr.

727
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,320
Combs and this person's, you
know, intimate situation. I've

728
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,020
flown around the country. I've
interviewed a large number of

729
00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:58,900
them. There's not the slightest
inkling, according to the

730
00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:01,920
interviews that I've done, of
anything that's coercive, non

731
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,760
consensual. Nobody was too
drunk, nobody was too high.

732
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:08,820
These were adults in a
relationship. This is a 10 year

733
00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:11,520
relationship. We can't forget
that this is a 10 year

734
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,900
relationship, and it was adults
and consensual, and everybody

735
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,240
who was there wanted to be
there. So I feel very

736
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,660
confident in our position. You
said you interviewed the men,

737
00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:23,600
but what about the women I
haven't interviewed

738
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,760
the one, the woman's not
available to me. She's

739
00:44:25,820 --> 00:44:31,820
presumably a grand jury witness.
And we would not, we cannot try

740
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:33,740
to interview a grand jury
witness. And

741
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:36,500
you don't think that there are
any other women who are going to

742
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:40,600
say that they were coerced into
this, given drugs. And

743
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,060
essentially, as prosecutors were
saying that, that's what kept

744
00:44:43,060 --> 00:44:44,200
them compliant.

745
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,620
So there are a lot of women in
these civil cases. There's been

746
00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:51,220
a there's been a mountain of
civil cases ever since the civil

747
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:56,020
case that was filed in November.
I don't see them as victims in

748
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:57,400
the indictment. That's my point.

749
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,240
Adam Curry: So once you get to.
Clive Davis, you know, who was

750
00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:07,080
definitely been at the freak
offs. I mean, come on, this is

751
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,780
the whole reason he left his
wife is because he wanted to be

752
00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:14,040
in this scene, in this gay hip
hop scene. Before you know what?

753
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,620
You're Jeffrey Katzenberg.
You're Jeffrey Katzenberg,

754
00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:19,620
you're at the upper echelons of
the Democrat Party. And

755
00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:23,480
definitely you're at Kamala
Harris. There's lots of pictures

756
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,500
of her in her nightie. You know
that? You know this goes back to

757
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:31,280
the Montel William days, when
she was kind of trolling around,

758
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:35,120
hanging out at the parties.
Willie Brown days, no, this

759
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,200
video is damning. The videos are
the problem, and they had to get

760
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,420
Diddy out of the limelight
before he did anything rash,

761
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,760
like tell people, and I don't
know, this doesn't look good for

762
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,080
his health. Can I? Can we be the
first to say, did he didn't kill

763
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,740
himself?

764
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,100
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting. The also, yes,

765
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:04,620
well, these videos are probably
not a good thing to have, no to

766
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:05,880
have released. And

767
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,140
Adam Curry: as a side note,
Diddy was from the reports I've

768
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:15,840
seen, one of the investors who
put money in to help Elon Musk

769
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:22,160
buy Twitter and turn it into x.
So there's, there's all kinds of

770
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,660
connections. This went on for
far too long. And you can just

771
00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:30,200
go to YouTube and put in
freakoff, and you'll see all

772
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,680
kinds of people talking about
these parties right up to what's

773
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,540
his face. LeBron James, ain't no
party like a Diddy party, uh

774
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:44,080
huh. Now there's a lot of money
at play here, a lot of lot of

775
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,580
assets, as it were,

776
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,160
John C Dvorak: yes in the
blackmail game, yes.

777
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,580
Adam Curry: So you know this,
this will be very, very

778
00:46:54,580 --> 00:46:58,300
unfortunate for a lot of people,
and it's the videos. It's always

779
00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:02,280
look now, will we ever see these
videos? Doubtful, no, like,

780
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:02,400
we're

781
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,920
John C Dvorak: still, it's like
seeing the day Epstein. Yes, you

782
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,420
had a room full of them. Does
not. In fact, they won't even

783
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,600
give us a list of names. I mean,
they these. It's the government.

784
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:14,760
This is a government cover up.
Yes.

785
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:17,640
Adam Curry: Oh, big time. Big
time.

786
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:21,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Let's grab
this guy, you know, put him on

787
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:27,860
ice, literally, yep, and it may
be permanently and

788
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,920
Adam Curry: and shut him up from
whatever he has. And it's, it's

789
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,660
not, is not going to be pretty

790
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,680
John C Dvorak: well, they've
done a good job, but it's weak.

791
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:42,580
Adam Curry: But it's weak. You
know, the indictment is weak and

792
00:47:42,580 --> 00:47:45,220
then not given, not letting him
out on bail. He said, hey, I'll

793
00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:50,740
do $50 million bail. Nope. Oh,
okay. He was ready to give

794
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:53,680
himself up to say, Okay, let's
just, let's just discuss this,

795
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,500
like, like men and take care of
this. You know, there's just

796
00:47:56,500 --> 00:48:02,040
some videotapes. No, there's,
there's something very damning

797
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,100
going on. And I don't it's,
somehow it feels like it's not,

798
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:10,500
it's not, it's it this Latin
most recent attack on Trump,

799
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,680
which I have to say, I'm a
little disappointed in our

800
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,900
trolls. There are trolls who
have my signal, my telegram,

801
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:24,320
myself. Yes, not a this
happened. This. This happened

802
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,340
John C Dvorak: during the show.
Any of this at least two hours,

803
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:29,600
yeah, before the show end. And

804
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,840
Adam Curry: email doesn't count.
I'm not looking at email during

805
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,840
the show. There's so many people
who could have just said, hey,

806
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,360
hey, hey, show day, hello. This
is what's happening.

807
00:48:39,860 --> 00:48:42,220
John C Dvorak: And yeah, the
trolls missed this completely.

808
00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:44,980
It was a complete fail of the
troll

809
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Adam Curry: room. Complete.
Fail, yes, yes. Fail, yeah. We

810
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,260
John C Dvorak: both do at the
end of the show, we closed the

811
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:52,840
show, and then we first thing we
noticed, he opened the, you

812
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,740
know, some browsers up and jump.
Well, they said assassination.

813
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:57,400
So the trolls

814
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,280
Adam Curry: are saying that they
were talking about it during the

815
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,740
during the show, but you can
send me a DM in the troll room,

816
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,440
and it's, it fires up an alert.
Anyway, it was just

817
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,700
disappointing to me, like, oh,
we

818
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,440
John C Dvorak: were talking
about before we get into that.

819
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,780
Since we're on the music
business, I do have to play this

820
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:16,140
clip. Oh,

821
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:19,020
Adam Curry: you got some music
business stuff, huh? Well, this

822
00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:22,040
John C Dvorak: is Taylor Swift.
Have you seen this?

823
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,860
Adam Curry: If do, I need to
tell you. This is from 2015

824
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,780
John C Dvorak: Okay, don't I
you? You

825
00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:32,720
Adam Curry: need to tell me that
that video that that everyone

826
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:38,000
has been sending me is an old
video from, from this is, she's

827
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,780
talking about Blackburn in in
Tennessee. This is not a recent

828
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:46,120
video of Taylor Swift talking
about Trump.

829
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,720
John C Dvorak: How come it
starts off with the discussion

830
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,280
of Trump, because it was 2015

831
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:56,260
Adam Curry: this very video,

832
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,020
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to
play it then, yeah, no, I'm

833
00:49:59,020 --> 00:50:01,620
Adam Curry: sorry. We. Get duped
all the time, and I had to look

834
00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:02,820
at it. Well,

835
00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:05,820
John C Dvorak: I didn't get
duped. I found it myself. Oh, I

836
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:07,380
duped myself. If people

837
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:09,900
Adam Curry: sent it to me like,
Oh, look at this. Taylor Swift

838
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:13,920
is mental. You know, this is
2015 and it was on some

839
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,260
documentary that she was doing
at the time. So

840
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:19,080
John C Dvorak: here's what my
takeaway from it was, even

841
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,820
though, if you want, we can play
it. No, no, it's not necessary,

842
00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:26,420
because it actually makes sense
that it was about Blackburn, but

843
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:32,900
because she keeps referring to
the her she Yeah, is that Taylor

844
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,600
Swift? That's what the thing
that's interesting is, because

845
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,180
her dad's there, and we never
get to see much of him, and

846
00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:42,940
she's like a little tween.

847
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:45,700
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, she was
10 years younger.

848
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,500
John C Dvorak: Well, she was 24
if she was 10 years younger, she

849
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:50,860
wasn't.

850
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,460
Adam Curry: She's 34 now, is
that how old she is? Yes,

851
00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:56,260
John C Dvorak: she's 34 holy

852
00:50:56,260 --> 00:50:57,580
Adam Curry: crap. Grow up girl.

853
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:03,060
John C Dvorak: And she's like a
in this thing, she's 24 Well,

854
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:06,180
it's not even 10 years ago, 25
it said nine years ago. She's

855
00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:08,580
Adam Curry: 20 she's 34 you're
right, she's 34

856
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,260
Unknown: so

857
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:14,580
John C Dvorak: she's like a
tween. She's like, she's like a

858
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:17,520
little kid, in terms of the way
she responds to everything.

859
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:23,420
She's I, I wonder how cloistered
some of these who you would know

860
00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:28,040
better than me, how cloistered
some of these artists become to

861
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,840
the point where they don't
really have a clue about

862
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,980
anything going on.

863
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,900
Adam Curry: Well, I would say
many of them. Well, okay, how

864
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:42,220
about another just taking it
back to diddystein, Justin

865
00:51:42,220 --> 00:51:46,480
Bieber. Justin Bieber was
literally taken under Diddy's

866
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,900
wing for like, a weekend, if
there's all kinds of weird

867
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:50,320
stuff. I

868
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,040
Unknown: mean, yeah,

869
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:57,580
Adam Curry: those kids are on
YouTube. Yeah. Now he fired his

870
00:51:57,820 --> 00:52:02,580
Tristar agent Lou Taylor, just
like this week, who was also

871
00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:07,980
behind Britney Spears
conservatorship. This goes much

872
00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:12,900
deeper than than we think. Much
deeper. I'm thinking

873
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080
presidential models, if you know
what I'm saying, yeah.

874
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,540
John C Dvorak: MK, Ultra, yes,
yes. Thinking yes, absolutely.

875
00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:23,540
Adam Curry: Hey, come on. I
mean, Taylor Swift, go look at

876
00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:27,500
the at the credits on her songs.
There's sometimes 15 people on

877
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:30,560
there. There's entire Swedish
Writing teams that jump in on

878
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,220
this stuff. They

879
00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:33,980
Unknown: have a lot of writers.
Yeah, it's it's manufactured.

880
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Still aren't that good. It's

881
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,700
Adam Curry: formulaic. And just
keep repeating it. Keep

882
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,540
repeating it. And look at how,
look at the effect that has on

883
00:52:40,540 --> 00:52:41,260
the children.

884
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,580
Unknown: You know, it works

885
00:52:47,860 --> 00:52:50,140
Adam Curry: now. I love that
she's doing witchcraft on stage.

886
00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:53,500
And please, Swifties don't email
me and say it's just it's just

887
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:56,200
like a theater. It's just
theatrics.

888
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:00,100
John C Dvorak: What Swifties
email you? What Swifties listen

889
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,440
to this show. Well, it

890
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,760
Adam Curry: starts with a D

891
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Darren gets my face. Hey, man,
hey, Mandy,

892
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,980
John C Dvorak: I'm on it today.

893
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:18,780
Adam Curry: Hey, man, that's no
good so and Well, since we're

894
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:25,100
talking about it, I would say
that just looking at this guy's

895
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:31,700
background, this Ryan Wesley,
Roth, Ruth, Roth,

896
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,300
John C Dvorak: yeah, three. They
got the three names too, which

897
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:36,560
is always

898
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,320
Adam Curry: a classic without a
doubt, MK, Ultra, whether he was

899
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:48,700
triggered by a trigger word or
would, I would be very likely to

900
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:53,260
believe is some special agent
was jacking this guy up.

901
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:58,120
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of
the movie Manchurian Candidate,

902
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:02,160
where this play, let's play a
game of cards. I think it was

903
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,480
right. That was the trigger
word, yes. And because this guy

904
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:13,380
is just this guy, it's, it's
ludicrous, this character, yeah,

905
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:18,540
I mean his shack in Hawaii, and
the fact that he did a long, I

906
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:21,440
It's been posted. We're not
playing any clips from it

907
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,680
because it's idiotic. But he
goes on and not he's in Ukraine.

908
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,740
The show goes on for a news
week,

909
00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:31,160
Adam Curry: the Newsweek
interview. But it is, yeah,

910
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,240
yeah. So this was what's so if
you look at the machine as it

911
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:39,200
is, you know, just remove
politics and parties and

912
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,320
ideologies and just look at the
machine of companies and turf,

913
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,720
because that's really what the
world is. Trump, by the way,

914
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:50,620
sees this, and he's the problem
because he wants to protect the

915
00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:56,440
USA Inc. He believes in USA Inc,
and he wants to keep it, and

916
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,440
that's he was right about the
trade balance. I mean, the only

917
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,340
problem. He has with China's,
they were ripping us off by

918
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:06,600
debasing their currency. And the
trade, the money flow was was

919
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,840
imbalanced, and the money was
flowing out of our country. He

920
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:15,120
sees it. It's very simple, if
you really look at stealing

921
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,800
John C Dvorak: our money, yeah,
and,

922
00:55:17,460 --> 00:55:20,040
Adam Curry: you know, and that's
been going on for a long time,

923
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,480
and he wanted to stop it, and he
knows the things that have to

924
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,240
happen. But at a top level,
especially Ukraine, I mean, you

925
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:33,380
know, who owns Newsweek, who
owns the New York Times? These

926
00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:37,580
are all big entities, entities
that are tied to big money, and

927
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:41,620
it's all, it's a game. It's just
a game, and it's a roll up. It's

928
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:46,840
a everyone's rolling up turf.
The EU was a roll up of sorts,

929
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,940
and Ukraine is the acquisition
target. It's like, who gets

930
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,180
Lindsey Graham is an idiot
because he keeps saying, well,

931
00:55:55,180 --> 00:55:58,780
there's trillions of dollars of
minerals. Uh huh. Shut up,

932
00:55:58,780 --> 00:56:04,560
Lindsay. We know it, and the EU
wants it to be theirs. Make no

933
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,020
mistake, they're not our
friends. They want it to be

934
00:56:07,020 --> 00:56:11,220
theirs. And we're being duped.
The American public, at least,

935
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:13,740
is being duped into, Oh yeah,
well, it's NATO, okay, yeah,

936
00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:17,400
we'll help you out. Here's all
we're paying for it. Democracy,

937
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:23,540
for democracy. Yeah, it's one
big shell game. It's the College

938
00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:27,380
of corporations. It's already
been the grain and all the

939
00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:30,080
farmlands have already been sold
and divvied up. That was the

940
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,000
first step as BlackRock. And
it's easy to make Blackrock the

941
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,600
bad guy of everything, by the
way. You know that video is

942
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,620
going around. Oh, he was in a
Blackrock commercial. No, that

943
00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:44,680
wasn't a Blackrock commercial.
That was. That was my favorite.

944
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,500
Everyone just sends me this
video and says, A Blackrock

945
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:52,180
commercial. Did you look at the
video? No, it was a promotion

946
00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:56,560
for the military industrial
complex, and which Blackrock has

947
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,540
as a share in. I mean, no doubt
about it, but they've already

948
00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:05,220
loaned Ukraine half a trillion
dollars for the rebuilding. You

949
00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:09,720
know, it's just, it's just a
game of companies and money and

950
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,900
turf. That's all that it is. I'm

951
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,840
John C Dvorak: reminded, if you
it's kind of a small version of

952
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,040
what you just described, is the
way the hotel business operates.

953
00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:23,780
Okay? You know, we have a hotel.
They open up a and then next

954
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,300
thing, you know, it's owned by
Hilton, and then they sell it to

955
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:30,920
Sheraton. And Sheraton does, and
it's just like a bunch of cars,

956
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,700
like guys playing cards. So, you
know, I think we should open a

957
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:37,940
couple, let's get a couple
places in London. From there,

958
00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:40,360
Sheraton wants to get out of
London. I think we should try

959
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,140
it. And every time they do that,
there's a bunch of financial

960
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,320
possibilities. You can write off
this and that, and you can do

961
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,460
this shell game Exactly. It
changes how you spend your money

962
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:53,020
and how you can the investment

963
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:55,120
Adam Curry: you put in, and what
you can write off of the

964
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,140
remodeling, all of that,
absolutely. And it

965
00:57:59,140 --> 00:58:01,240
John C Dvorak: takes, and it
takes a little bit, but that

966
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,460
does take a lot of work.

967
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:05,100
Adam Curry: Well, but that's the
only work. That is the only

968
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:05,580
look, the

969
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:08,820
John C Dvorak: only work. It's
just handling with numbers. I

970
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:10,380
mean, the military,

971
00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:13,440
Adam Curry: corporate industrial
base, they give money to the

972
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,840
lobbyists. The lobbyists give it
to the politicians, the

973
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,900
politicians, they pass
legislation. You know, it's

974
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:23,540
like, it's all, all part of the
same system. And for the love of

975
00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:27,260
money, is the root of all evil.
It is truly, always the root of

976
00:58:27,260 --> 00:58:31,700
all evil. So you get this, Ryan
Wesley, Roth, dude, and he's

977
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:36,920
being, he's a, he's like a drop
of oil underneath the cracked

978
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,620
engine block. We just don't know
that where the crack and, you

979
00:58:39,620 --> 00:58:42,580
know, the cylinder head is
cracked because stuff is

980
00:58:42,580 --> 00:58:45,640
starting to be revealed to us
because of just the vast amount

981
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,420
of communications. And you put
this guy, you know, the New York

982
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:52,360
Times interviews him. Then when
the New York Times comes to

983
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,840
interview, you be like, Oh, I'm
pretty special. How about the

984
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,660
NGOs? All of our money goes into
not all, but significant,

985
00:59:00,660 --> 00:59:04,740
billions of dollars goes into
USA ID, National Endowment for

986
00:59:04,740 --> 00:59:08,880
Democracy, and they give money
to the NGOs. That's why the

987
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,180
immigrants are still coming in,
because the NGOs are getting

988
00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:15,540
paid, people getting million
dollar salaries, a lot of them

989
00:59:15,540 --> 00:59:18,420
faith based. I got to add that,
because it's really disgusting.

990
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:22,100
What's happening, same thing
with this guy. You know, every

991
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:26,360
Roland Martin went over to
Ukraine. Oh, yeah, you know who

992
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,500
pays for that? The NGOs. The
NGOs are sitting there. They've

993
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:34,940
got money. He even went to the
Netherlands, Helsinki Institute

994
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:41,140
in Holland. Rouse, yes, they
did. Yes. They posted, well, we

995
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,120
had a chat with Mr. Ruth. He
wasn't said he was in Washington

996
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,880
to meet with the US commission
on security incorporation in

997
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:54,160
Europe, known as the Helsinki
Commission, for two hours to

998
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,420
help push more support for
Ukraine. And that commission is

999
00:59:58,420 --> 01:00:02,100
led by members of Congress. Is
staffed by congressional aides,

1000
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,620
very influential on matters of
democracy and security, and

1001
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:11,280
they've been very vocal for
support for Ukraine. So, you

1002
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,060
know, if people just throw money
at you, any we could have, we

1003
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:17,760
could have said, hey, you know
what? I want to go help the

1004
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,220
Ukrainians. You land in Kyiv
International, there's somebody

1005
01:00:22,220 --> 01:00:26,120
there. Hey, here's some money.
Here's an apartment. Do your

1006
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,860
videos? I mean, it's, this has
been, this is a much bigger

1007
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,720
operation than just what we're
seeing. And we're not really

1008
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,180
seeing anything, because we
don't see anyone being maimed

1009
01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:42,640
and killed or the tanks being
blown up continuously? No, we're

1010
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,200
just seeing little bits and
pieces of information. So it's

1011
01:00:47,860 --> 01:00:52,600
everywhere he went, every
institution, Institute, every

1012
01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:57,100
NGO, every magazine, every
newspaper that interviewed him,

1013
01:00:57,220 --> 01:01:05,100
they probably said, Man, Trump's
a problem. You know, Trump's a

1014
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:09,900
problem. So, yeah, does it? You
know? And then if, if you read

1015
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:13,140
in the same newspapers and
magazines that came to interview

1016
01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:17,940
you, he's Hitler, he's gonna
remove our democracy. What else

1017
01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:24,200
do you expect? Now, suspicious
is the is the assault style

1018
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:31,220
rifle that had the serial number
obliterated, you know? So

1019
01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:35,660
please, M, 5m. Stop saying,
Well, how could he, how could he

1020
01:01:35,660 --> 01:01:39,860
buy an assault rifle every
convicted felon from, by the

1021
01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:46,240
way, if you are convicted of
having a machine gun without the

1022
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,920
proper documentation, you're
going to jail. You don't just

1023
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:55,480
walk around after that. You go
to jail. That is a federal

1024
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,800
offense, that is a felony. So
this guy was a ticking time

1025
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,960
bomb, and whether he was MK
Ultra and they had a code word,

1026
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:10,020
someone got him to Florida,
someone told him to be there.

1027
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,080
There's no doubt about it, and
that's why I'm a little

1028
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,760
suspicious of a six week cycle
type event, maybe not intended

1029
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,740
to actually assassinate the
president, but they and they

1030
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:26,480
sure knew. And then, how can you
you see that? You see the gun,

1031
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,760
you you spring into action, you
start firing, and you miss, huh?

1032
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,140
What kind of secret service are
you? God? Ashley Babbitt was

1033
01:02:36,140 --> 01:02:43,000
spot on. It's like, it doesn't
make sense. And my favorite

1034
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,220
piece is Sean Hannity, who

1035
01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:47,080
John C Dvorak: was, before you
go on, I do want to mention

1036
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,660
something. It was in Trump was
on. I don't have any clips from

1037
01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:56,560
it because it was a little
tedious, but I maybe go back and

1038
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,980
watch the rest of it. But Trump
was on Gutfeld as a guest. I

1039
01:02:59,980 --> 01:03:04,680
have a clip. And the thing at
the very beginning, he's, you

1040
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,140
know, they, they pretty much
give him the show. So he's

1041
01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:11,520
yakking away. He mentions that
the woman, it was a woman who

1042
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:14,640
saw the guy running from the
scene and got his license plate

1043
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:21,740
and sent it to send it on to the
law enforcement and and one of

1044
01:03:21,740 --> 01:03:25,220
the other guests said at the
time, and I agreed, it's like,

1045
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:31,400
why we were never told it was a
woman, which was a fact. It was

1046
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,780
always some helpful citizen, or
they never would say it was a

1047
01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:39,920
woman. For some reason, I found
that very peculiar. Trump said

1048
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,720
it was a woman. But they went
out of their way to assiduously.

1049
01:03:44,260 --> 01:03:49,540
Suggested was, I was under the
impression with some dude, hmm.

1050
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,300
So I just found that to be
fascinating.

1051
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,360
Adam Curry: And how, and how
does he know there's a woman? I

1052
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,940
mean, can you, Trump, said it
was, can you tell me what is a

1053
01:03:57,940 --> 01:04:04,380
woman? Okay, I'm just saying,
yeah. Okay, so Hannity was

1054
01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:07,980
supposed to be out on the golf
course with him. He makes a very

1055
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:13,140
unfortunate statement in
explaining his experience that

1056
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:19,680
day, where he had breakfast with
the President's golf partner. So

1057
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,580
Unknown: I got a lot of details.
I'm very aware of the New York

1058
01:04:22,580 --> 01:04:29,480
Post report that said that it
was outside of the what's called

1059
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,240
Trump International in West Palm
Beach, which is where, actually

1060
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,940
where I am. And anyway, so long
story short, is President Trump.

1061
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:40,660
They were on the fifth hole.
They were about to go up to putt

1062
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,680
and the way Steve Witkoff. Now,
just as a little bit of

1063
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,160
background arthal, I happened to
go to breakfast with Steve

1064
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,060
Witkoff and another friend of
mine this morning, and I was

1065
01:04:52,060 --> 01:04:54,760
invited to play golf. They
happen to be really good

1066
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,760
golfers. I don't have a lot of
time to play golf, so I didn't.

1067
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,720
I said, Thank you, but I'm not
going to go. A lot on the golf

1068
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,100
course and get killed out there.
But long story short,

1069
01:05:05,820 --> 01:05:06,240
oops

1070
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,860
Adam Curry: Sean, think about
what you're saying that looks

1071
01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:12,720
bad. Don't say these things.

1072
01:05:13,140 --> 01:05:15,960
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
that guy who's something who's

1073
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,960
got some mental issues because,
and I say that because he can't

1074
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,680
stop talking. He doesn't have
time. I've never seen anybody

1075
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,840
just he does it. He does a three
hour radio show every day of the

1076
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,580
week, and then does an hour
every day of the week on Fox, a

1077
01:05:34,580 --> 01:05:38,960
TV show. Nobody that is the
hardest working man in show

1078
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:39,440
while

1079
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,400
Adam Curry: writing books.

1080
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,780
John C Dvorak: Well, he's
probably got some help there,

1081
01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:48,040
but it's like, how I it's beyond
me. Yeah,

1082
01:05:49,060 --> 01:05:50,800
Adam Curry: he's got a four hour
workday. It's

1083
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,840
John C Dvorak: crazy. You want
to go golfing? No, I

1084
01:05:54,460 --> 01:05:57,040
Adam Curry: don't think so. So
this ties into,

1085
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,560
John C Dvorak: well, it's not
just, yeah, it's a four hour

1086
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:04,260
work week, work day, work day. I
mean, no, it's four hours on the

1087
01:06:04,260 --> 01:06:05,100
air. Yeah,

1088
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,560
Adam Curry: I know. We know. We
know what that really means. I

1089
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,640
mean, you're continuously doing
stuff, no doubt. But he also

1090
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:17,580
wears 18 pins from all of the
agencies. I got an NSA pin. I

1091
01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:18,900
got a CIA pin.

1092
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,840
John C Dvorak: Yes, he's

1093
01:06:22,580 --> 01:06:25,160
Adam Curry: got all kinds and a
flag, and I got a flag, yeah,

1094
01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:27,740
John C Dvorak: so yeah, well,
he's he's wrong.

1095
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,220
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, Holly's
got his panties in a bunch,

1096
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:35,660
because he has a whistleblower.
Now, when Holly says

1097
01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:39,320
whistleblower, I think that's a
little more believable than the

1098
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:45,340
whistleblower at ABC who you
know, died breaking the

1099
01:06:45,340 --> 01:06:48,160
whistleblower is already dead.
We didn't, never. Nothing ever

1100
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,820
came of that. Oh, she got the
questions in advance. He was on

1101
01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:54,520
waters. Well, what we've heard
Jesse from new whistleblowers

1102
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,580
who've come forward about this
second assassination attempt on

1103
01:06:57,580 --> 01:07:00,600
Donald Trump's Life. And here's
what they have told us that golf

1104
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,360
course that the President was
playing Secret Service have

1105
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,580
guarded that course many, many
times. And what the

1106
01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:09,180
whistleblower says is protocol
calls for Secret Service to

1107
01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:13,140
station agents along the places
in the course that are known

1108
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,540
vulnerabilities. I want to
emphasize, the service has

1109
01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:17,760
guarded this course many times.
They know where there are

1110
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,140
vulnerable vulnerabilities. They
normally station agents there

1111
01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:23,960
ahead of Trump's appearance on
the course, but they apparently

1112
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,780
did not do that this last
weekend. And the whistleblowers

1113
01:07:26,780 --> 01:07:30,380
tell me that's strange. That's
out of protocol. It's not even

1114
01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:33,800
clear Secret Service swept the
perimeter before Trump took to

1115
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,400
the course. Also a brooch, a
breach, rather a protocol. And

1116
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,040
they want to know why, and so do
I. I think the Secret Service

1117
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,700
deserves to give us answers.
Yeah, it's even worse than that,

1118
01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:46,060
because they still don't have
any answers on requested

1119
01:07:46,060 --> 01:07:48,940
documents from Butler,
Pennsylvania. Do you know that

1120
01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:51,400
the Secret Service still has not
given congressional

1121
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,580
investigators the documented
evidence we have been asking for

1122
01:07:54,580 --> 01:07:58,900
for two months, two months since
Trump was shot in the face. Now

1123
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:03,360
he has been shot at or nearly so
again, and still, Secret Service

1124
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,720
is stonewalling right down to
this hour. I mean, what is going

1125
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,700
on here? What is happening?
Yeah, yeah,

1126
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,740
John C Dvorak: he dramatizes it.

1127
01:08:13,740 --> 01:08:17,160
Adam Curry: I do have one clip
of Trump on Gutfeld. I didn't

1128
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,620
watch the whole thing actually.
I figured you would have clips.

1129
01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:21,320
I'm kind of surprised you
didn't. But, well,

1130
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:24,140
John C Dvorak: you know, it's
like, it's trying. I could have

1131
01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:27,860
gotten a rally clip. It's, I
listen as I listen. It's just

1132
01:08:27,860 --> 01:08:32,840
Trump going on and on. He talks
a lot. And so I had, and I

1133
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,940
didn't watch the whole thing. I
watched the beginning, and I

1134
01:08:34,940 --> 01:08:38,660
thought it was going to be kind
of boring. And so not, I mean,

1135
01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:42,460
it's always kind of interesting
with Trump, and you had, you had

1136
01:08:42,820 --> 01:08:46,000
campagno there, and she's
laughing at everything. She's

1137
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:50,680
just, who is hysterical, who's
companion Emily, the ex Raiders

1138
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,760
cheerleader, who's also one of
the smartest women you run into.

1139
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,180
And she used to be a, she's the
dark complected girl that's

1140
01:08:58,180 --> 01:09:01,620
sitting there with the dark
hair. She was a light complected

1141
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:05,520
blonde head of the cheerleader
issues that really cheerleader

1142
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,100
for the Oakland Raiders, and
thinks everything is hilarious.

1143
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:13,860
So she laughs a lot. She and
Gutfeld loves to have her on the

1144
01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:20,100
show because she laughs laughing
last time well and, and you had

1145
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:27,920
Tyrus and and what's her name,
the timf, Tim cat. Tim.

1146
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:31,580
Adam Curry: So here it is,
here's, here's the clip. You

1147
01:09:31,580 --> 01:09:34,760
Unknown: bring up God and you've
almost been killed twice. Do you

1148
01:09:34,820 --> 01:09:37,040
think more about your own
mortality and

1149
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:39,679
what happens after you go move
on? Yeah,

1150
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,180
not about mortality, but I do
think more about God, because,

1151
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,700
okay, Butler was really the
greatest of all miracle. If I'm

1152
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:51,940
not looking over there, and I
mean a full turn exactly 90

1153
01:09:51,940 --> 01:09:55,300
degrees, I wouldn't be here
right now, and your ratings

1154
01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:56,800
would be a little bit lower.
Perhaps

1155
01:09:58,660 --> 01:10:00,540
kill me there, but you. Hear
something

1156
01:10:00,660 --> 01:10:03,720
about that, because I said,
bring down the chart. And the

1157
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,860
chart drops down. And I go look
at those numbers, and I look

1158
01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:11,460
over to the right, I ping, and
that was that I knew something

1159
01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:15,420
was definitely wrong, and it was
a mess I touched. I said, That's

1160
01:10:15,420 --> 01:10:16,740
unusual. Remember when

1161
01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:19,500
you showed it to me? I showed
it, yeah, you showed it to me.

1162
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:19,740
Said, I

1163
01:10:19,740 --> 01:10:22,220
know people aren't going to
believe this. So Gutfeld, take a

1164
01:10:22,220 --> 01:10:23,060
look at my ear.

1165
01:10:24,380 --> 01:10:28,040
That's right. You know, I met,
we met in at the convention,

1166
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:31,940
yeah. And I said, Who am I going
to show it to? You know, we have

1167
01:10:31,940 --> 01:10:38,240
a lot of guys. They'll say it
didn't exist. And I actually did

1168
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,620
have such confidence in him, and
he's really a very special guy,

1169
01:10:41,620 --> 01:10:44,500
talented guy, good guy, great
guy. And I said, you know, if

1170
01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:46,600
I'm going to show it, let's do
it with Gutfeld.

1171
01:10:48,820 --> 01:10:49,960
That's amazing,

1172
01:10:52,420 --> 01:10:53,740
because it happened right after.

1173
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:55,960
How did you get him to see the
top of your ear?

1174
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:00,700
I sat in a low chair

1175
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,780
Adam Curry: this funny. This
he's, he's, he's, he's quick,

1176
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,200
John C Dvorak: yeah, I know. But
it was that was not atypical. It

1177
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,620
was, I didn't get any clips for
that. That was, you proved my

1178
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:17,460
point. Well,

1179
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:19,620
Adam Curry: I like that one. I'd
like the ear story that was

1180
01:11:19,620 --> 01:11:20,160
pretty funny.

1181
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,060
John C Dvorak: Oh, the years.
Yeah, it's the Gutfeld story.

1182
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:26,540
Let me get back. I was only five
foot five, which is a joke that

1183
01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:28,460
was in there. Let me get back to
the

1184
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,980
Adam Curry: to this character,
this actor, by the way, he also

1185
01:11:33,980 --> 01:11:34,820
wrote a book,

1186
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:38,180
John C Dvorak: this guy, and we
know how that yeah, they said

1187
01:11:38,180 --> 01:11:40,280
they wrote a book, but where is
this book? Now?

1188
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,460
Adam Curry: Let me see if I got
the name of it.

1189
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,080
John C Dvorak: They keep talking
about this book, and in the

1190
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,920
Adam Curry: book my war, he
wrote, wrote big air quotes this

1191
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,460
book. He says, while I was
instructed to describe the

1192
01:11:54,460 --> 01:11:57,400
events of my trip, you know, as
all these like he was being told

1193
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,160
what to do, I've been instructed
that some sort of background and

1194
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,680
backstory is required. So this
guy is such a product of this

1195
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,940
machine, and even CBS Holly
Williams had talked to him, and

1196
01:12:08,940 --> 01:12:09,120
here

1197
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,780
Unknown: he is. This is the
suspect, Ryan Wesley Ruth was in

1198
01:12:12,780 --> 01:12:16,380
his late 50s. He spent time as a
volunteer in Ukraine after the

1199
01:12:16,380 --> 01:12:19,740
Russian invasion, and our holly
Williams was in touch with him

1200
01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:22,340
when he was overseas, and she
joins us now. Holly, good

1201
01:12:22,340 --> 01:12:23,300
morning. What else can

1202
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:25,340
you tell us about this man? Hey,

1203
01:12:25,340 --> 01:12:28,040
there. Nate. Look When I woke up
this morning in London to the

1204
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,800
news that Ryan Ruth was the
suspect in an alleged

1205
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,160
assassination attempt on former
President Donald Trump, I was

1206
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,760
stunned to recognize the name,
because I had been in touch with

1207
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,900
Ryan Ruth for over a year in the
early stages of the war in

1208
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:44,080
Ukraine, like 1000s of other
international volunteers, he

1209
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,380
apparently went to Ukraine to
help. I do not believe he was

1210
01:12:47,380 --> 01:12:51,040
fighting himself, but he had put
signs up in Kyiv, Ukraine's

1211
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,460
capital, offering to help other
foreigners find places in

1212
01:12:54,460 --> 01:12:58,300
Ukrainian battalions. And that's
how I initially came across him.

1213
01:12:58,420 --> 01:13:01,620
I spoke with him, I think, once
on the phone and texted

1214
01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:04,740
frequently, and he put me in
touch with several foreign

1215
01:13:04,740 --> 01:13:08,280
fighters. Now, he seemed very
genuine and passionate about

1216
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:12,240
supporting Ukraine. He mentioned
plans to bring in 1000s of

1217
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,260
Afghan and Syrian fighters,
which I took, frankly, with a

1218
01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:19,860
grain of salt. In an interview
with the news website semaphore,

1219
01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:23,060
he claimed he had been unable to
get visas for those Afghan

1220
01:13:23,060 --> 01:13:26,660
fighters, but we don't know if
he was actually in touch with

1221
01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:30,200
any Ukrainian officials at all.
Now, I've met American

1222
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,460
volunteers everywhere from Syria
to Ukraine. Some are experienced

1223
01:13:34,460 --> 01:13:37,400
soldiers and very clear about
the dangers they're facing.

1224
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,900
Others seem less well informed,
and their motivations can be

1225
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:45,520
quite confused. To be honest,
Ryan Ruth did, at times, seem

1226
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,140
fairly naive. At one point, he
sent me an audio track of a song

1227
01:13:50,140 --> 01:13:53,500
he'd apparently recorded about
the carnage caused by the war in

1228
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:57,040
Ukraine. In November of last
year, he told me he was back in

1229
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,200
the US in Hawaii, and that was
the last time I heard from him.

1230
01:14:01,740 --> 01:14:01,920
What

1231
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,200
Adam Curry: do you want to bet
this guy was at one of Diddy's

1232
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,400
freak off parties?

1233
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,980
John C Dvorak: I bet no,

1234
01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:14,280
Adam Curry: anything's possible.
So the M 5m is taking this to a

1235
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,220
different place, of course,
because, you know, we have to,

1236
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,840
we have to blame it on Trump
himself. Somehow. I have a

1237
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:21,800
couple of examples

1238
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,540
John C Dvorak: before you go
there. I do have a clip to

1239
01:14:23,540 --> 01:14:28,340
interrupt you with, okay,
because I don't think that just

1240
01:14:28,340 --> 01:14:30,980
that this guy's just
propagandized, but the public

1241
01:14:30,980 --> 01:14:36,320
itself has been you're going to
get into this so ridiculously

1242
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,320
propagandized to make Trump
think it was his fault that he

1243
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,000
did everything. I want to play
this C span guy who calls in, oh

1244
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:43,480
yes,

1245
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:46,600
Unknown: this is great glide,
Louisiana. Willie. Democrat,

1246
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:47,800
good morning. Good morning.

1247
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:52,420
I just want to say I'm a very
patriotic American. I did 20 of

1248
01:14:52,420 --> 01:14:58,420
the military, two to the Vietnam
only 1966 when back in 68 and I

1249
01:14:58,420 --> 01:15:03,240
look at myself and think. About
we as a military man. We pull

1250
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,360
the clothing, kill capital,
destroy the enemy by all means

1251
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,800
available. And I see we let this
man, Trump, destroy America. And

1252
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,560
I look at and say, well, these
two people had to step up and

1253
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,260
take that shot. I made it
through.

1254
01:15:16,980 --> 01:15:19,920
I'm sorry, Willie, you're not
advocating violence, are you

1255
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,440
not violence. I'm talking about
defending my country. All right,

1256
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,860
Dan in Louisville, Kentucky,
independent. Oh, yeah, yeah,

1257
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,160
boom.

1258
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,820
Adam Curry: That's what happens,
of course. And so think about

1259
01:15:31,820 --> 01:15:35,000
how, how easy it is for this
weak brother, this Ruth

1260
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,200
character, who is clearly not
right in the head. You just look

1261
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,720
at him like now, and all you
have to say is, you know, Trump

1262
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,500
is the source of all problems.
Trump is the reason why Russia

1263
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:50,500
is is gaining ground and is
going to get hold of Ukraine and

1264
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:56,740
democracy, of course, of course.
But the mainstream, oh no, let's

1265
01:15:56,740 --> 01:15:59,020
just blame it on each other.
This is NBC

1266
01:15:59,860 --> 01:16:01,800
Unknown: tonight, former
President Trump thanking

1267
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,800
officers who caught the suspect
in the apparent assassination

1268
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,920
attempt against him, and
describing the alarming moments

1269
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,940
on his golf course.

1270
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:14,220
All of a sudden, we heard shots
being fired in the air, and I

1271
01:16:14,220 --> 01:16:17,220
guess probably four or five
Secret Service knew immediately

1272
01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:21,500
it was bullets, and they grabbed
me an agent

1273
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:24,200
had fired on the armed suspect
who was able to hide in the

1274
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,920
bushes undetected by Secret
Service for nearly 12 hours.

1275
01:16:27,980 --> 01:16:31,040
This is the second attempt on
Trump's life in nine weeks.

1276
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,580
Trump blames democratic rhetoric
against him, and so does his

1277
01:16:34,580 --> 01:16:35,840
running mate. No

1278
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,440
one has tried to kill Kamala
Harris in the last couple of

1279
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:42,640
months, and two people now have
tried to kill Donald Trump in

1280
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,980
the last couple of months. I'd
say that's pretty strong

1281
01:16:44,980 --> 01:16:48,820
evidence that the left needs to
tone down the rhetoric and needs

1282
01:16:48,820 --> 01:16:50,020
to cut this crap out

1283
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,200
the Trump campaign pointing to
comments like these as stoking

1284
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,700
fear, Donald

1285
01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:58,360
Trump is an existential threat
to our democracy and our most

1286
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,620
fundamental freedoms.

1287
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,820
Well, Democrats argued Trump's
rhetoric sparked the January 6

1288
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,660
attack, and that he's used
heated language against them. If

1289
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:10,260
we don't win on november 5, I
think our country is going to

1290
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,460
cease to exist.

1291
01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:14,040
And Garrett, the former
president, about to take the

1292
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,740
stage now this will be his first
rally since the apparent

1293
01:17:16,740 --> 01:17:17,700
assassination attempt.

1294
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,540
That's right. Lester, this crowd
has been chanting Fight, fight,

1295
01:17:20,540 --> 01:17:23,720
fight. Mr. Trump's rallying cry
after that first assassination

1296
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,320
attempt. But unlike then, when
he briefly spoke of unity, his

1297
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,260
campaign is rejecting the
premise that he needs to do

1298
01:17:30,260 --> 01:17:32,720
anything else to lower the
rhetorical temperature in this

1299
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,140
country.

1300
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,800
Adam Curry: So that's where it
has to go is, well, it's Trump

1301
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,380
doing this. Well, it's Kamala
doing this. And what are we all

1302
01:17:39,380 --> 01:17:43,960
doing? We're all on. Elon's ex
arguing about it. Here's CNN,

1303
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,780
Unknown: a few days ago, we had
an incident. I have to say,

1304
01:17:46,780 --> 01:17:50,320
Secret Service did a hell of a
job. This guy was all set. He

1305
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,640
was all set to do his number,
and there was no talk. He didn't

1306
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,060
say, Hello. What are you doing
here? Please. And he ends up

1307
01:17:58,060 --> 01:18:01,980
getting shot himself. No. Took
his gun, started shooting him,

1308
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,620
and this guy ran

1309
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,600
Sunday's events, reignited
debate in Washington over Secret

1310
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,480
Service shortcomings and over
the relationship between heated

1311
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:16,380
rhetoric and political violence.
Trump's opponent Kamala Harris

1312
01:18:16,380 --> 01:18:19,440
called him yesterday to check on
him. Here's what she told the

1313
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:21,740
National Association of Black
Journalists about their

1314
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:22,400
conversation,

1315
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,780
I told him what I have said
publicly, there is no place for

1316
01:18:27,260 --> 01:18:30,980
political violence in our
country. We can and should have

1317
01:18:30,980 --> 01:18:36,080
healthy debates and discussion
and disagreements, but not

1318
01:18:36,140 --> 01:18:41,560
resort to violence to to resolve
those issues.

1319
01:18:42,820 --> 01:18:45,340
Harris's running mate echoed her
message yesterday.

1320
01:18:45,460 --> 01:18:48,760
JD Vance Trump's running mate
told a crowd in Michigan that

1321
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,060
calls to lower the temperature
on the trail could actually lead

1322
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:53,980
to violence. Do you

1323
01:18:53,980 --> 01:18:56,080
have we don't solve our
differences in

1324
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,280
this country's violence. We

1325
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,920
condemn all its forms. We solve
our differences

1326
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:03,600
at the ballot box. Don't lecture
Donald Trump, about softening

1327
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,480
his rhetoric after two people
tried to kill him. It's

1328
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,900
ridiculous. Don't try to censor
your political opponents,

1329
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:12,180
because censorship will
eventually lead to political

1330
01:19:12,180 --> 01:19:14,700
violence. We've seen that now
twice in the last couple of

1331
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:17,880
months, and I hope Democrats
learn the lesson. Censorship

1332
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,980
Adam Curry: leads to political
violence. That's interesting.

1333
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:25,580
Not quite sure what he means by
that. Then there was this, you

1334
01:19:25,580 --> 01:19:28,880
know, they've got this. Scott
Jennings now on CNN, have you

1335
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,860
noticed this guy? No, not at
all. He's he's a Republican.

1336
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,340
They brought him in. Actually,
the first time I really noticed

1337
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:41,380
him is during the Democrat
national convention. And he's

1338
01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:44,560
kind of like the foil. He's
there to say, Well, I do know

1339
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:49,180
this. You see this guy, so he
really he was trolling in this

1340
01:19:49,180 --> 01:19:55,780
roundtable discussion with Abby
Phillip and Tim Naftali, and I

1341
01:19:55,780 --> 01:19:57,520
have a couple clips from it.
Good evening. I'm

1342
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,380
Unknown: Abby Phillip in New
York. Let's get right to what

1343
01:19:59,380 --> 01:20:01,800
America is. Talking about an
apparent

1344
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:02,940
second No, we're

1345
01:20:02,940 --> 01:20:05,280
Adam Curry: talking about Diddy.
We're not talking about anything

1346
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:05,580
else.

1347
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,400
Unknown: Assassination attempt
on Donald Trump. And this

1348
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,480
country is incapable of talking
about this five alarm fire,

1349
01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:15,660
instead of focusing on the
crisis of violence in our

1350
01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:17,220
politics. Or, by

1351
01:20:17,220 --> 01:20:20,340
Adam Curry: the way, whatever
happened to words are violence.

1352
01:20:21,540 --> 01:20:24,020
Unknown: Remember that? Yeah,
words

1353
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:26,000
Adam Curry: of violence. I guess
that went out the window.

1354
01:20:26,060 --> 01:20:28,760
Unknown: How better to protect
these candidates? This is being

1355
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,380
treated like any other political
incident along partisan lines.

1356
01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:37,040
Trump himself is blaming the
rhetoric of President Biden and

1357
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,420
vice president Kamala Harris,
despite zero evidence to back

1358
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:40,960
that up.

1359
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:46,060
Rhetoric going on. A lot of
people think that the Democrats,

1360
01:20:46,060 --> 01:20:50,740
when they talk about threat to
democracy and all of this, and

1361
01:20:50,740 --> 01:20:53,440
it seems that both of these
people were radical left,

1362
01:20:54,940 --> 01:20:57,160
and Trump's running mate is
doing the same.

1363
01:20:57,940 --> 01:21:00,360
You know, the big difference
between conservatives and

1364
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:05,160
liberals, is that we no one has
tried to kill Kamala Harris.

1365
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:05,760
Oops,

1366
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,820
Adam Curry: little flub there.
We haven't. I mean, no one has

1367
01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:10,200
tried to kill Kamala Harris in

1368
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,900
Unknown: the last couple of
months, and two people now have

1369
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:15,540
tried to kill Donald Trump in
the last couple of months. I'd

1370
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:18,540
say that's pretty strong
evidence that the left needs to

1371
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:21,860
tone down the rhetoric and needs
to cut this crap out. Somebody

1372
01:21:21,860 --> 01:21:24,440
is going to get hurt by it, and
it's going to destroy this

1373
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:25,040
country.

1374
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:27,560
Adam Curry: Yes, tears will
come. These are all pretty short

1375
01:21:27,740 --> 01:21:30,980
from this roundtable. Here's now
we add one more bit from Abby.

1376
01:21:30,980 --> 01:21:31,820
Here, you and

1377
01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:36,560
Unknown: I, Tim, were sitting on
the set the day that Donald

1378
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:41,380
Trump was attacked that first
time, terrible, and we talked

1379
01:21:41,380 --> 01:21:44,320
about the sickness in this
country that assassination

1380
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,520
attempts represent. It's not
about the politics of the

1381
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,460
individual. I mean, look at
these people. The thing that

1382
01:21:51,460 --> 01:21:54,160
they have in common is their
complete lack of mental

1383
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,520
stability. Why is that not the
conversation? Why are we in this

1384
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,680
place of who's to blame is that
the Democrats or the

1385
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,820
Republicans? The Republicans the
Republicans aren't trying to

1386
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:08,400
assassinate the Democrats. And a
lot of talk of they and they,

1387
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,920
it's just a person. It's, it's
an individual.

1388
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, because
if we talk about what's really

1389
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,600
going on, then we expose the
whole game of NGOs and military

1390
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,340
and money and bull crap. So of
course, send everybody off to

1391
01:22:22,340 --> 01:22:26,480
the weapons grade military
machine known as x to go argue

1392
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:27,740
with the algos. I

1393
01:22:27,740 --> 01:22:30,320
Unknown: remember so well, July
13,

1394
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:34,340
John C Dvorak: what you brought
twice now. The number of people

1395
01:22:34,340 --> 01:22:37,700
that use twitter is really
inconsequential.

1396
01:22:42,140 --> 01:22:44,740
Adam Curry: That's what do you
mean? The very people who watch

1397
01:22:44,740 --> 01:22:49,060
this stuff watch it on Twitter.
No one's watching CNN. It's a

1398
01:22:49,060 --> 01:22:53,920
loop. It's a closed loop. You
don't get these clips by

1399
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,340
watching CNN. You get these
clips by seeing them on Twitter.

1400
01:22:58,420 --> 01:23:02,400
Would you like Twitter? That's
what? Yes, I would say I get

1401
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,340
almost every single clip from
Twitter. If people send me a

1402
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:10,020
link, it's to Twitter. Sure
people are not watching. Look at

1403
01:23:10,020 --> 01:23:13,860
the numbers. People not
watching. CNN, they're not

1404
01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:16,680
watching the cable channel.
People don't even have cable

1405
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:23,240
anymore. That's what this this
is a closed loop. You can add

1406
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:24,500
Facebook if you want

1407
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,260
John C Dvorak: finish this clip,
I'd be interested. And

1408
01:23:27,260 --> 01:23:29,900
Unknown: I remember the
conversations in the days that

1409
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:33,320
followed. I remember President
Biden's speech about toning down

1410
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,700
the rhetoric. And I saw the
rhetoric toned down on both

1411
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:43,900
sides, and then 20 minutes into
his acceptance speech, Donald

1412
01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:48,580
Trump turned up the volume. I'm
not blaming him for what

1413
01:23:48,580 --> 01:23:51,880
happened. Of course, in our
country, you do not decide

1414
01:23:52,540 --> 01:23:56,860
political disputes through
violence. But the problem is

1415
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,980
that we have too much hate
speech right now.

1416
01:24:01,300 --> 01:24:05,400
Adam Curry: So So the whole
point of a Scott Jennings is so

1417
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,280
then you can get people saying,
Yeah, Scott Jennings, yeah, he's

1418
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,680
great. Look at him. Here's the
clip, share. Give me an example.

1419
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:10,860
What

1420
01:24:10,860 --> 01:24:12,180
Unknown: do you mean by hate
speech? Because I

1421
01:24:12,180 --> 01:24:14,580
want to, because I want to
specifically know, because I

1422
01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:16,920
think I know what it is. But I'm
interested in what you think

1423
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,380
about this, because I agree with
you. I do think we have too much

1424
01:24:19,380 --> 01:24:20,960
hate speech. But give me an
example,

1425
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:26,420
I would say when you use the
term vermin to describe your

1426
01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:27,680
political opponents, so

1427
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,340
you think it's Trump's fault
that he got shot or got

1428
01:24:32,420 --> 01:24:37,520
shot. Thank you, Scott. I won't,
I won't step in that trap.

1429
01:24:37,940 --> 01:24:43,060
That's not what I said. There is
no place in this country for for

1430
01:24:43,060 --> 01:24:48,580
violence, but let's be honest
about why we have so much

1431
01:24:49,060 --> 01:24:54,280
tension in this country. When
you dehumanize people, you are

1432
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,580
using the rhetoric of the 30s.
I'm not using I'm not going to

1433
01:24:57,580 --> 01:25:01,020
say which country in the 30s,
but when. You dehumanize people,

1434
01:25:01,020 --> 01:25:03,900
you make it easier for disturbed
minds to do the wrong thing. And

1435
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:07,560
let me just remind you of
something in 2019 Donald Trump

1436
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,880
said that the internet is a
dangerous Avenue okay to

1437
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,440
radicalize disturbed minds. He
was right, yeah. And he said,

1438
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:17,100
remind us.

1439
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:22,280
John C Dvorak: By the way, this
is, this is why nobody listens

1440
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:27,200
to CNN, yeah, it's just, like a
big it's so juvenile. It's

1441
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,120
Adam Curry: just trolling.
That's my point.

1442
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,580
John C Dvorak: Well, let's get
to real trolling. Then, because

1443
01:25:31,580 --> 01:25:32,780
I have some clips, can

1444
01:25:32,780 --> 01:25:34,820
Adam Curry: I just say one
thing? Can you say that

1445
01:25:34,820 --> 01:25:37,820
everything you want? Yeah,
before you get to your clip,

1446
01:25:37,820 --> 01:25:44,560
what's the next piece of my
sentence? Why did X take down

1447
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:50,320
this guy's Twitter account?
Who's this? Ryan Wesley, Roth,

1448
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,000
guy. Why? I

1449
01:25:52,780 --> 01:25:54,160
John C Dvorak: didn't know you
had an account. Oh

1450
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,160
Adam Curry: yeah, he had a
Facebook account that was taken

1451
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:01,320
down, but he also had a Twitter
account. Why? Why? Why don't we?

1452
01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:02,400
Why don't we get to

1453
01:26:03,660 --> 01:26:06,120
John C Dvorak: stuff up on
Facebook too so the public can

1454
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,860
examine it because

1455
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:11,820
Adam Curry: someone told them to
take it down. Yeah, so, but

1456
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,840
isn't Elon all for I'm not
taking down that tweet. No

1457
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,780
Brazil. I'm not taking that
down. Why does he? Why does this

1458
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:19,500
taken down?

1459
01:26:21,540 --> 01:26:23,780
John C Dvorak: Gun to the head.
Okay?

1460
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,480
Adam Curry: Then he's not in
control of it. That answers my

1461
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:26,960
question.

1462
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,660
John C Dvorak: Of course, he's
gonna take it down. No. Why? Of

1463
01:26:32,780 --> 01:26:34,820
course, stuff's taken down. And
you'd think, no,

1464
01:26:34,820 --> 01:26:37,220
Adam Curry: I know there's a lot
more taken down, but that's not

1465
01:26:37,220 --> 01:26:42,400
the image he's portraying. You
know, I have a Yeah, no, I don't

1466
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:47,440
have jihad against him. Jihad,
jihad, because it's it's okay.

1467
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,120
John C Dvorak: These are musk
donations.

1468
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,640
Adam Curry: I don't care. I do.
I do not care. I'd rather be

1469
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,760
right than rich. And by the way,
Dev,

1470
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,800
John C Dvorak: you are. You got
to the point, did you? Did you

1471
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:06,120
throw away your Skylink
connection. I've given money to

1472
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,300
musk. You're actually paying him
money, serious money. Do

1473
01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:12,420
Adam Curry: you know that the
that the Starlink was the

1474
01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:15,960
Starlink star Do you know that
it was out almost all day,

1475
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,540
yesterday and and I couldn't
figure it out. I mean, because I

1476
01:27:20,540 --> 01:27:23,840
have a monitor on it, like, why
is this thing going down? What

1477
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,080
is happening? What it it would
come up. It would go down, come

1478
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,400
up. I don't know. Yesterday,

1479
01:27:28,460 --> 01:27:29,000
John C Dvorak: okay?

1480
01:27:29,060 --> 01:27:30,200
Adam Curry: I have the answer.

1481
01:27:30,980 --> 01:27:34,160
John C Dvorak: Well, I, I would,
if I was going to guess, I'd say

1482
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,400
because we had some solar flare
activity that was pretty nasty.

1483
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:37,640
A

1484
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,780
Unknown: powerful solar flare
erupted from the sun, causing

1485
01:27:40,780 --> 01:27:44,260
radio blackouts across North
America and the Pacific Ocean.

1486
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,960
The flare was classified as an X
1.5 on the solar flare scale. An

1487
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,800
X 1.5 flare can emit energy
equivalent to billions of

1488
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,760
hydrogen bombs. The flare caused
radio communications to be

1489
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,200
disrupted in the western United
States and the Pacific Ocean,

1490
01:28:01,380 --> 01:28:02,220
yeah, yeah.

1491
01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:04,680
Adam Curry: And when I saw this,
like, Oh, of course. But it

1492
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,620
really, I mean, it had that
thing going up and down all day.

1493
01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:11,820
I only have my bitcoin miners on
it, so I lost money. Musk, but,

1494
01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:17,940
yeah, it's, it doesn't do well
with solar flares. Nothing does,

1495
01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:19,200
yeah, but that also, that

1496
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,260
John C Dvorak: particular one
you're talking that this guy's

1497
01:28:21,260 --> 01:28:25,160
talking about, he has a Twitter
feed talking about, yeah, yeah,

1498
01:28:25,220 --> 01:28:27,920
that it works. Basically a
weather report

1499
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:31,280
Adam Curry: on solar players,
space weather, yeah, it's great,

1500
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:31,880
and

1501
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,640
John C Dvorak: it's really
interesting, yeah, yeah. This

1502
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,140
was, he predicted this was going
to happen last a week ago. Yeah.

1503
01:28:39,380 --> 01:28:44,620
Oh, Sunday, yeah, yeah, Sunday
was the big and he had photos.

1504
01:28:44,620 --> 01:28:48,460
It's actually fascinating, well,
but it also screws up cell

1505
01:28:48,460 --> 01:28:49,900
service, everything,

1506
01:28:50,860 --> 01:28:53,860
Adam Curry: yeah, including
setting off pagers,

1507
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,180
Unknown: just saying,

1508
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,660
John C Dvorak: you know, that's
kind of interesting.

1509
01:29:03,540 --> 01:29:06,480
Unknown: You never know. Hey,
man, I

1510
01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:08,520
John C Dvorak: can't get this
thing to no one has suggested

1511
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,580
that. That's the first time. I
wouldn't have even thought of

1512
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:16,320
it. But why not? Anything's
possible. You got a bunch of

1513
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,020
bombs walking around there and
just boom, there to go.

1514
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:24,440
Accidentally. We didn't mean to
do it today. Man, nobody,

1515
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,380
Adam Curry: all right, you had
some trolling clips you wanted

1516
01:29:27,380 --> 01:29:28,220
to play. So we

1517
01:29:28,220 --> 01:29:32,660
John C Dvorak: have Hillary. I
don't have the all of it, but

1518
01:29:32,660 --> 01:29:35,060
Hillary comes on Maddow show no

1519
01:29:35,060 --> 01:29:36,920
Adam Curry: for promoting her
book, no doubt,

1520
01:29:38,540 --> 01:29:44,440
John C Dvorak: her 10th memoir.
And so. And it's so pathetic to

1521
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:49,180
listen to these two, and it's an
annoying and so I managed to do

1522
01:29:49,180 --> 01:29:49,420
it

1523
01:29:50,860 --> 01:29:51,700
Unknown: good for you,

1524
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,840
John C Dvorak: please. So I
start off with this matter 37

1525
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:01,020
seconds of her asking, begin
asking a question. Leading the

1526
01:30:01,020 --> 01:30:06,180
witness and going on and on and
on, but Hillary is a hateful

1527
01:30:06,180 --> 01:30:11,100
person that is just beyond the
pale. But sorry, I'm sorry.

1528
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,140
Let's listen to these clips. I
wanted to

1529
01:30:13,140 --> 01:30:16,020
Unknown: ask you, as somebody
who has a little bit of

1530
01:30:16,020 --> 01:30:19,980
experience in these things, you
write extensively in the book

1531
01:30:19,980 --> 01:30:22,760
about not just not the
experience of running against

1532
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,040
Trump, but how you have felt
since, and what you think about

1533
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,060
where we are as a country in
what is now, sort of the end of

1534
01:30:29,060 --> 01:30:34,520
this decade of Trump's influence
in our politics. You sounded a

1535
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,400
very, very hopeful note at the
Democratic Convention. Do you

1536
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,440
feel like Democrats and
Americans in general, are

1537
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:45,340
getting any better at sort of
resisting his tricks, or

1538
01:30:45,340 --> 01:30:50,020
understanding what you see as
the threat of his ascending to

1539
01:30:50,020 --> 01:30:50,500
power again.

1540
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:55,120
Adam Curry: Oh, threat, threat,
tricks, tricks, tricks and

1541
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,860
threats, threats, tricks. So

1542
01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:58,780
John C Dvorak: this came at this
whole interview you have to

1543
01:30:58,780 --> 01:31:02,160
remember, showed up on the air
after the assassination, or the

1544
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:06,780
Ruth guy showed up, and it was
just tasteless, completely

1545
01:31:06,780 --> 01:31:09,720
tasteless. And here's Hillary
coming back with her little

1546
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:11,700
ditty. I think

1547
01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:16,080
Unknown: many Americans are
Rachel, and I'm particularly

1548
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:21,260
impressed by the many, many
Republicans, people who served

1549
01:31:21,260 --> 01:31:23,840
in other Republican
administrations, and especially

1550
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:31,880
people who served in Trump's
term as well, who are just

1551
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,660
sounding the alarm. They're
making their voices heard as

1552
01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:39,860
loudly as they can above the
den, above all the distraction

1553
01:31:39,860 --> 01:31:44,260
and diversion that goes on in
our political discourse right

1554
01:31:44,260 --> 01:31:50,920
now. So I do think many, many
more people are being given the

1555
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:59,080
opportunity to reject what Trump
offers, what he represents, not

1556
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:03,900
as many. The race is still too
close. The electoral college is

1557
01:32:03,900 --> 01:32:09,600
still the big hurdle that has to
be overcome. But I am very

1558
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:15,660
hopeful and even optimistic that
Americans who do not want to see

1559
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:21,320
a continuation of this politics
of hate and division will reject

1560
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:26,360
Trump, and maybe some
Republicans who know that they

1561
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:30,980
can't vote for Trump will end up
voting for the Harris waltz

1562
01:32:30,980 --> 01:32:32,120
ticket as well. You

1563
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,720
Adam Curry: know, I, I have, I'm
not going to play him, because

1564
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:40,100
you have some that's tedious
enough. I have MSNBC Morning Joe

1565
01:32:40,100 --> 01:32:44,620
clips with Hillary. I could not
tell you. A, what the title of

1566
01:32:44,620 --> 01:32:47,920
her book is, or B, what's what
it's about. All she's talking

1567
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:48,880
about is Trump.

1568
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,920
John C Dvorak: Well, the book is
not about, well, I don't know

1569
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,780
what the book see exactly.

1570
01:32:55,900 --> 01:32:59,260
Adam Curry: She's not promoting
a book. Good point, yeah. Uh,

1571
01:32:59,440 --> 01:32:59,680
here

1572
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,800
John C Dvorak: she continues. I
think this is still her.

1573
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,880
Unknown: I am struck by the fact
that as his campaign, no, sorry,

1574
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:06,240
what?

1575
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,480
John C Dvorak: No, it's not this
is mad out going on and on

1576
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:09,900
again.

1577
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,280
Unknown: I am struck by the fact
that as his campaign careens

1578
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:18,540
into very, very offensive
terror, the association with

1579
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:24,080
Holocaust deniers and the
outrages at Arlington. Hello,

1580
01:33:24,140 --> 01:33:28,400
Adam Curry: 2015 what's the
Holocaust denier thing? What is

1581
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:33,080
that about? Do you even remember
this? They

1582
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:38,600
John C Dvorak: she tends to use
stuff from 2015 2016 Lacoste

1583
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,600
Unknown: deniers and the
outrages at Arlington National

1584
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,560
Cemetery of all places, the
insults to recipients of the

1585
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:53,200
Medal of Honor, the recent
incredibly racist and dangerous

1586
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,220
lies about specific groups of
immigrants, Haitians in this

1587
01:33:57,220 --> 01:34:02,820
case, and Venezuelans in The
case of Colorado. I am struck by

1588
01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:05,100
the fact that as much as we
thought we might have been

1589
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:08,880
inoculated against sort of
outrage tactics like that, where

1590
01:34:09,060 --> 01:34:11,880
everything else gets thrown by
the wayside and everybody starts

1591
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,000
responding to his outrage du
jour, it's a way of sort of

1592
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,300
yanking everybody's chain. I
sort of feel like we haven't

1593
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:23,120
learned, and he's he's still
being taught, especially by the

1594
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,440
media, that the more offensive
he is, the more he can dominate

1595
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:31,580
the media space entirely. And I
feel like you've, you've been a

1596
01:34:31,580 --> 01:34:35,240
good diagnosis of that, not only
from when you were up against

1597
01:34:35,300 --> 01:34:38,420
him, but from what others have
done. So do you have a an

1598
01:34:38,420 --> 01:34:41,620
antidote for that, or a way that
people can talk themselves out

1599
01:34:41,620 --> 01:34:42,400
of taking that bait.

1600
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,880
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, okay. Well,
I'm sure Hillary has some great

1601
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,140
advice for us.

1602
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,500
John C Dvorak: This is
considered, this is to be the

1603
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:56,680
nut. This is the good clip. And
it's like, this is, I think the

1604
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:01,800
definition of insanity is to
listen to this. I. And thank

1605
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:02,880
Adam Curry: you for your
courage.

1606
01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:06,840
Unknown: I think that's really a
critical question, and I think

1607
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,200
there's a couple of things going
on here. You mentioned the

1608
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:16,380
press, and sadly, the press is
still not able to cover trump

1609
01:35:16,380 --> 01:35:19,680
the way that they should. They
careen from one outrage.

1610
01:35:20,460 --> 01:35:23,660
Adam Curry: Why is Kareem now
the word again,

1611
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:26,660
Unknown: the impressions

1612
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,000
John C Dvorak: bouncing out of
control.

1613
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:36,080
Unknown: Karine not able to
cover trump the way that they

1614
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,140
should. They careen from one
outrage to the

1615
01:35:39,140 --> 01:35:40,960
Adam Curry: next the way that
they should. Don't you know how

1616
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,820
to cover the news. What was

1617
01:35:42,820 --> 01:35:45,580
Unknown: outrageous three days
ago is no longer on the front

1618
01:35:45,580 --> 01:35:50,800
pages, even though it threatens
the physical safety of so many

1619
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,400
people, particularly as you
point out, immigrants that he

1620
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,760
and Vance have decided to
demonize, yeah,

1621
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,160
Adam Curry: because you were so,
so good to the Haitians,

1622
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,480
Hillary, you and Bill were You
were great with Haiti. And

1623
01:36:03,540 --> 01:36:06,300
Unknown: I don't understand why
it's so different

1624
01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:09,540
John C Dvorak: stealing their
money. They stole their money,

1625
01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:09,780
stole

1626
01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:12,960
Adam Curry: their money, stole
their money. That's it. Stole

1627
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:13,680
their money. And

1628
01:36:13,740 --> 01:36:17,280
Unknown: I don't understand why
it's so difficult for the press

1629
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:22,160
to have a consistent narrative
about how dangerous Trump is,

1630
01:36:22,460 --> 01:36:26,360
you know, the late, great
journalist, Harry Evans.

1631
01:36:26,780 --> 01:36:30,680
Adam Curry: Uh huh, who was
Harry Evans? Okay, so

1632
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,560
John C Dvorak: I was going to
take this out to try to tighten

1633
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,820
this clip up, but

1634
01:36:34,820 --> 01:36:35,600
Adam Curry: it's important, I

1635
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:40,300
John C Dvorak: guess. Well,
Harry Evans is, no it's because

1636
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:45,580
she because what she uses as an
example is reminds me of the old

1637
01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:53,260
Deepak Chopra nonsense where he
once says or the responsibility

1638
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,280
is the ability to have a
response. He said that once.

1639
01:36:58,180 --> 01:37:00,720
Adam Curry: But that's a Kamala
Harris thing, and it's

1640
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,600
John C Dvorak: a kind of
idiotic, kind of deconstruction

1641
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,320
of words that just is
ridiculous. And so Terry Evans,

1642
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:12,840
who was the kicked out as the
editor in chief of The Times of

1643
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:18,660
London once Rupert Murdoch
bought it, was somewhat famous

1644
01:37:18,660 --> 01:37:23,600
in certain hoity toity circles.
And here we go. Trump

1645
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:28,400
Unknown: is, you know, the late,
great journalist, Terry Evans,

1646
01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:34,160
you know, one time said that,
you know journalists should, you

1647
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,460
know, really try to achieve
objectivity. And by that, he

1648
01:37:37,460 --> 01:37:41,260
said, I mean, they should cover
the object. Well, the object, in

1649
01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:47,560
this case, is Donald Trump his
demagoguery, his danger to our

1650
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,820
country and the world and stick
with it. You know, they were

1651
01:37:51,820 --> 01:37:57,940
merciless about what they saw as
President Biden's, you know,

1652
01:37:57,940 --> 01:38:03,540
problems in the debate and
calling for him to withdraw. I

1653
01:38:03,540 --> 01:38:07,200
believe Donald Trump has
disqualified himself over and

1654
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:11,580
over and over again to be a
presidential candidate, let

1655
01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:12,600
alone a president.

1656
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:17,820
Adam Curry: I'm disqualifying
you from running for president.

1657
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,400
John C Dvorak: She's an insane
woman. Yeah, she is. Now I have

1658
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,040
two more clips that really have
nothing to do with that, but

1659
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,800
they're more about how
propaganda works and how the

1660
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,040
left likes to, you know,
notoriously, likes to change

1661
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,880
language and meaning, yeah, and
I just want to get these two out

1662
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,240
of the way. The first one is the
short shorty, and it reminds me,

1663
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,460
if you remember I was on, on the
on my high horse, about

1664
01:38:42,460 --> 01:38:47,440
Buttigieg when he said the same
thing. This is the matto Clinton

1665
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:50,620
clip five. Listen to this. Is
only nine seconds, but listen to

1666
01:38:50,620 --> 01:38:51,400
this. They

1667
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,220
Unknown: have to take Trump,
both seriously and literally. He

1668
01:38:54,220 --> 01:38:58,960
has said what he wants to do he
and his allies with Project

1669
01:38:58,960 --> 01:38:59,260
2025.

1670
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,780
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, Buttigieg
said the same thing, seriously

1671
01:39:03,780 --> 01:39:04,800
and literally.

1672
01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:08,640
John C Dvorak: Well, you have to
take him both seriously and

1673
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,040
literally, which is redundant,

1674
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,800
Adam Curry: ah, but it's milieu
speak.

1675
01:39:14,220 --> 01:39:17,040
John C Dvorak: I don't get it.
And then then there's this. And

1676
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,720
this is a matt This is the last
clip. This is Matt o discussing.

1677
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:26,360
This is, to me, a jaw dropper.
You Why you before you play this

1678
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,720
clip, we can all go online and
look up the definition of

1679
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:36,860
fascism, and we can look at
letting, let's look at that

1680
01:39:36,860 --> 01:39:41,740
definition after we play this
clip, which is another,

1681
01:39:41,740 --> 01:39:44,920
completely different definition
of fascism that they're

1682
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,640
promoting, and if you listen to
it carefully, it's kind of a

1683
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,240
subtext. As a Republicans, our

1684
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:56,020
Unknown: next guest appears on
page 27 of Secretary Clinton's

1685
01:39:56,020 --> 01:40:02,580
new book, where she cites his
explanation of. Fascism. Quote

1686
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,760
fascism, as Yale history
professor Timothy Snyder put it.

1687
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:10,560
Quote is, might over right,
conspiracy over reality, fiction

1688
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:16,440
over fact, pain over law, blood
over love, Doom over hope.

1689
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:17,580
Wow,

1690
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:24,560
Adam Curry: wow. Okay, from
Merriam Webster, fascism, a

1691
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:29,720
political philosophy movement or
regime that exalts nation and

1692
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,440
often race above the individual,
and that stands for a

1693
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:36,620
centralized, autocratic
government headed by a

1694
01:40:36,620 --> 01:40:40,420
dictatorial leader severe
economic and social

1695
01:40:40,420 --> 01:40:44,200
regimentation and forcible
suppression of opposition.

1696
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:49,120
Sounds like we're living under
that already, but for some

1697
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,600
reason, for some reason, let me
get that back fascism, as

1698
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,600
Unknown: Yale history professor
Timothy Snyder put it. Quote is,

1699
01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:00,460
might over right, conspiracy
over reality, fiction over fact,

1700
01:41:00,460 --> 01:41:05,640
pain over law, blood over love,
Doom over hope. You know

1701
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:06,840
Adam Curry: what that reminds me
of? Fear

1702
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,500
Unknown: is freedom. Subjugation
is liberation. Contradiction is

1703
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:15,540
truth. Those are the facts of
this world, and you will all

1704
01:41:15,540 --> 01:41:19,320
surrender to them. You kids in

1705
01:41:22,260 --> 01:41:24,980
Adam Curry: human clothing? Yes,
there you go, pigs and human

1706
01:41:24,980 --> 01:41:29,240
clothing. That's how Rachel
thinks of us. Wow.

1707
01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:31,940
John C Dvorak: Well, I can, and
this is what Hillary quoted in

1708
01:41:31,940 --> 01:41:36,140
her book. Yeah, I think I might.
This is unbelievable to me. This

1709
01:41:36,140 --> 01:41:41,500
is so communist. It's it's over
the top. Well,

1710
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,300
Adam Curry: while we're on
definitions, this will be my

1711
01:41:43,300 --> 01:41:47,680
last clip before we do something
different. Because, wow, this is

1712
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:55,180
harsh for for everyone's ears, a
definition of a stochastic

1713
01:41:55,180 --> 01:41:58,660
terrorism. I'd never, I'd never
heard of the

1714
01:41:58,660 --> 01:42:01,980
John C Dvorak: term. I have
it's, I've seen this term

1715
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:03,480
stochastic terrorism,

1716
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:05,940
Adam Curry: yeah, can you want
to give it a shot?

1717
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,420
John C Dvorak: I know. Okay. I
every time I see it, I have to

1718
01:42:09,420 --> 01:42:10,140
look it up. Well,

1719
01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:12,300
Adam Curry: whenever I want to
know the definition of

1720
01:42:12,300 --> 01:42:16,860
something, I of course go to joy
Reid because, you know, I She's

1721
01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:21,020
a professor, clearly, in in all
kinds of arts and humanities.

1722
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,460
This is the best example of what
you said. Ben yourself. Magic.

1723
01:42:25,460 --> 01:42:26,480
Copdur de heft,

1724
01:42:26,540 --> 01:42:30,680
Unknown: stochastic terrorism.
Stochastic terrorism is when the

1725
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,220
public demonization of a person
or group of people through

1726
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:38,540
ideologically driven hate speech
increases the likelihood that

1727
01:42:38,540 --> 01:42:43,780
those people will be violently
attacked and targeted because of

1728
01:42:43,780 --> 01:42:48,520
those vicious claims. It's when
attacks on drag queens claiming

1729
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,860
that they are grooming and
sexualizing children lead to

1730
01:42:50,860 --> 01:42:54,520
drag shows being canceled
because of bomb threats. It's

1731
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,400
the right demonization of
Speaker Nancy Pelosi that leads

1732
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,320
to a deranged man breaking into
a San Francisco home searching

1733
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,800
for her so he can, quote, put
her on trial and instead bashing

1734
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,820
her husband's head in and of
course, it's what JD Vance has

1735
01:43:08,820 --> 01:43:11,100
done to Haitian immigrants in
Springfield, Ohio.

1736
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,860
Adam Curry: Isn't that amazing?
She can't see what's really

1737
01:43:16,860 --> 01:43:21,260
going on with assassination
attempts on a former president,

1738
01:43:21,500 --> 01:43:24,620
but oh, it's JD Vance, and she
has another term for this,

1739
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:26,960
Unknown: because, also a second
term you need to know to

1740
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,600
understand what these people are
doing. And I promise you, I

1741
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,960
promise you, I'm not making it
up. It's called Dead catting,

1742
01:43:33,620 --> 01:43:37,160
making a shocking, dramatic and
usually false claim to distract

1743
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,600
from a more damaging story. It's
like if a comedian threw a dead

1744
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,720
cat onto the stage to divert
attention from the fact that

1745
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:43,900
he's

1746
01:43:43,900 --> 01:43:47,980
Adam Curry: bombing. How meta is
this clip, she is literally dead

1747
01:43:47,980 --> 01:43:53,200
catting to distract from the
fact that stochastic terrorism

1748
01:43:53,200 --> 01:44:01,260
is being exhorted on the former
president by saying JD Vance

1749
01:44:01,260 --> 01:44:06,840
talking about cats is the real
problem. What is going on? This

1750
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,800
is some deep, deep psychological
warfare this lady is doing, and

1751
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,000
she doesn't even know it.

1752
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:13,860
John C Dvorak: I don't think she
does either. It's

1753
01:44:13,860 --> 01:44:18,180
Adam Curry: great, though. It's
like, wow, wow. Meanwhile and

1754
01:44:18,180 --> 01:44:22,820
this and we got to take a break,
but residents of Chicago. Thank

1755
01:44:22,820 --> 01:44:26,300
god they're not watching CNN,
thank God they're not watching

1756
01:44:26,300 --> 01:44:30,920
MSNBC, thank God they're not on
Twitter. For all I care, they've

1757
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:35,780
got it straight when their ward
what's the what's the ward

1758
01:44:35,780 --> 01:44:39,320
president? What you call that
the ward master? What's his

1759
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:39,740
name?

1760
01:44:39,860 --> 01:44:41,860
John C Dvorak: The war is the
ward master. The

1761
01:44:41,860 --> 01:44:45,820
Adam Curry: ward the ward
master. The ward master said,

1762
01:44:45,820 --> 01:44:49,420
hey, guess what, kids, we're
gonna have a shelter here for

1763
01:44:49,420 --> 01:44:52,480
immigrants. You know, the
irregular kind.

1764
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:55,660
Unknown: We're going to have a
shelter at this particular

1765
01:44:55,660 --> 01:44:56,260
location.

1766
01:44:59,740 --> 01:45:00,900
Adam Curry: Can. Comes the
chant,

1767
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:15,240
yeah, there you go. Finally, you
work for us. This is the chant

1768
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,760
that needs to be going on
everywhere. Don't you think

1769
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:23,480
people have forgotten this you
work for us. It's that simple.

1770
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:29,480
And with that, as we're working
for you, members of no agenda

1771
01:45:29,480 --> 01:45:31,940
nation, I'd like to thank you
for your courage. Say in the

1772
01:45:31,940 --> 01:45:35,600
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in the careening all

1773
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,000
over the place, say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one

1774
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,520
and only. Mr. John C demoraz,

1775
01:45:43,180 --> 01:45:45,220
John C Dvorak: tomorrow. In the
morning, you Mr. Adam curry. In

1776
01:45:45,220 --> 01:45:47,560
the morning, all the ships at
sea, boots on the ground,

1777
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,200
ourselves in the water, the
Dames and the nights out there.

1778
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:51,760
Adam Curry: Hello, hello, hello,
trolls.

1779
01:45:52,420 --> 01:45:53,140
Unknown: Don't move.

1780
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:01,320
Adam Curry: All right. Our peak
today was 2056 trolls in the

1781
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,420
troll room. This is where you
say low.

1782
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:06,120
Unknown: That's super high.

1783
01:46:06,300 --> 01:46:11,940
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so lost. I
have no idea. Is that high? 2056

1784
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,360
John C Dvorak: it would be, it
would be normal for Sunday. This

1785
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,500
is Thursday. Yeah, right now. Or
at work, they have things to do.

1786
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,080
Adam Curry: Oh, you know what
they have to do. They're like,

1787
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,680
what are the boys saying? Help
me calm down. What's Diddy

1788
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,320
Steen? I don't know. What's
happening with with the shooter.

1789
01:46:27,380 --> 01:46:32,300
What's going on? Everybody
exploding pagers. That's why

1790
01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:36,800
we're here. We're here to keep
your amygdalas in check and to

1791
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:40,660
bring you a little bit of humor
from time to time, and those

1792
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:44,860
massive amounts of trolls who,
that's right, who are not doing

1793
01:46:44,860 --> 01:46:48,160
anything at work. Obviously,
they're listening

1794
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,880
in@trollroom.io you can go
there. You can listen to the

1795
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:56,380
live stream, which is on 24
hours a day, with many fantastic

1796
01:46:56,440 --> 01:46:59,740
podcasts from all around, no
agenda nation, many of them done

1797
01:46:59,740 --> 01:47:02,820
live, which is a whole different
experience for the podcast. You

1798
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,600
can also listen to them later.
We recommend a modern podcast

1799
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app, because, man, there's so
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1800
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modern podcast app. There's 27
features over your apple podcast

1801
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thing. Or, you know, God forbid
you're using Spotify. What's

1802
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wrong with you podcast apps.com
Give it a whirl. Also, you'll be

1803
01:47:23,660 --> 01:47:27,380
notified immediately when we go
live through the bat signal. And

1804
01:47:27,380 --> 01:47:30,860
if you don't have time to listen
live, because I don't know, you

1805
01:47:30,860 --> 01:47:33,260
have a job where you can't. It
seems like everyone has a job

1806
01:47:33,260 --> 01:47:35,720
where it can do that, you know,
I'll just listen to this when we

1807
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:40,300
post the show within 90 seconds,
set 90 seconds through our pod

1808
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:44,560
ping technology, which includes
blockchain and AI, you'll be

1809
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,500
notified that we have posted the
show, so no more waiting for 45

1810
01:47:47,740 --> 01:47:52,180
minutes, sometimes up to several
hours. Really odd. How, how old

1811
01:47:52,180 --> 01:47:58,360
fashioned some of those legacy
apps are. Podcast apps.com today

1812
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,680
will be a very short executive
and Associate Executive Producer

1813
01:48:01,740 --> 01:48:04,740
segment, seeing as we have
exactly one executive producer.

1814
01:48:06,780 --> 01:48:10,320
I'm not sure exactly what
happens, but this is probably

1815
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,040
something happened. This is
probably the lowest amount of

1816
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,740
donations we've seen in Thursday

1817
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,720
John C Dvorak: for, I'd say five
years,

1818
01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:22,100
Adam Curry: for five years,
really, for a Thursday, hmm?

1819
01:48:22,220 --> 01:48:24,020
John C Dvorak: And you know,
what's interesting is there's

1820
01:48:24,020 --> 01:48:29,360
not one, which is, I don't know
if it's got, what has to do with

1821
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:33,260
it, but there's not one stripe
donation in the whole pile, hmm.

1822
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:36,500
Does it still work? Well, I

1823
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,980
Adam Curry: think it will. We
don't know. We don't know. I

1824
01:48:39,980 --> 01:48:43,060
mean, maybe we've been
deplatformed, debanked.

1825
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,640
John C Dvorak: It's possible,
you think could happen.

1826
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,920
Adam Curry: So we run it on
value for value. It was actually

1827
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,080
kind of funny. We're talking
about it the other day. You

1828
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:58,420
know, we have Linda Lou patkin,
who, who, every single show, she

1829
01:48:58,420 --> 01:49:03,960
donates, I think, $200 and and
she's she always thanks us for

1830
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:08,520
the show, and she says, Hey,
I've got a business here. Now,

1831
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,160
do you know what that would cost
with the amount of listeners we

1832
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:16,260
have if you were to buy a spot,
a commercial, an

1833
01:49:16,260 --> 01:49:19,800
John C Dvorak: ad? I mean, in so
far as CPM is concerned, yes,

1834
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:25,520
Adam Curry: the cost per mil, as
it were, yes, yes, 4000 Yeah. So

1835
01:49:25,580 --> 01:49:27,920
at today's rates, that would be
$2,000

1836
01:49:33,140 --> 01:49:35,060
Unknown: that's pretty
incredible.

1837
01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:38,180
Adam Curry: It's a steal, and
I'm sure she's there again

1838
01:49:38,180 --> 01:49:41,440
today. We'll find out. But first
in our value for value, which is

1839
01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:43,960
time, talent and treasure, we
want to thank people who

1840
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:47,560
contribute to the show in other
ways. What? What? No, what,

1841
01:49:47,860 --> 01:49:50,620
John C Dvorak: what? It's just
that she's there, and so is Eli,

1842
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:55,480
and that's it, plus our one guy.
This is like three people total,

1843
01:49:55,540 --> 01:49:58,780
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. Well, I
guess we screwed up. What did we

1844
01:49:58,780 --> 01:49:59,860
do wrong? Well,

1845
01:49:59,860 --> 01:50:01,860
John C Dvorak: I. I'm saying
there's something amiss,

1846
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:07,860
Adam Curry: obviously. No, well,
I don't know. I mean, it's hey,

1847
01:50:07,860 --> 01:50:10,860
if, if people get value out of
the show, they will send value

1848
01:50:10,860 --> 01:50:14,220
back. And if there's other
things going on their life or

1849
01:50:14,220 --> 01:50:18,300
whatever, maybe they're all, uh,
on Twitter. Got other thing? I

1850
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:21,200
gotta be on Twitter. Yeah, I
gotta, we gotta tell someone

1851
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:21,740
they're wrong.

1852
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:23,480
Unknown: Go Elon.

1853
01:50:25,700 --> 01:50:27,980
Adam Curry: We love the time,
talents and treasure that people

1854
01:50:27,980 --> 01:50:30,620
offer back to the show. Just
telling someone to listen to, I

1855
01:50:30,620 --> 01:50:33,440
do see that a lot on on Twitter,
people say, Hey, you should

1856
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:36,320
listen to no agenda show. And
from time to time, I see someone

1857
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,420
say, Okay, I'll check it out,
usually followed by, oh, man.

1858
01:50:40,420 --> 01:50:44,680
And then they try it again, and
they come back. And then they

1859
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:48,580
start to like it, because we
know, we know for almost 17

1860
01:50:48,580 --> 01:50:53,380
years, Episode, 1700s coming up,
our 17th anniversary in October,

1861
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:58,240
four more years help us get
through it. We have artists who

1862
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:02,280
are hands down, all of them
Dutch masters, and many of them

1863
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,820
are using CGI. I'm just going to
keep using that. Many of them

1864
01:51:05,820 --> 01:51:09,420
using CGI to create artwork. I'm
not so sure about the one that

1865
01:51:09,420 --> 01:51:14,100
we chose for Sunday's Show,
Episode 1695, we titled it

1866
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:20,040
pronoun journey. Carter came in
first time. Artist wins. Right

1867
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,040
off the bat. This

1868
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:23,840
John C Dvorak: is the only
second time in the history of

1869
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:28,220
the show that at one shot,
artist won right out of the

1870
01:51:28,220 --> 01:51:29,180
chute. Yes, and you

1871
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:31,520
Adam Curry: can see at no
agenda, Art generator.com you

1872
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,880
can see all the submissions, and
you can see what what each

1873
01:51:34,940 --> 01:51:38,000
artist has done. And thank you,
Sir Paul couture, for

1874
01:51:38,420 --> 01:51:42,400
maintaining that as part of your
value. Back to the show. Now we

1875
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,580
were, of course, thinking of
naming the show transcestor,

1876
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,100
because it came up and, like,
that's a great title. You even

1877
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:51,460
said show title. But then when
this art came up, which was

1878
01:51:51,460 --> 01:51:57,100
George Washington trans with the
with the word transcessor in it,

1879
01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:01,560
it was just too good to pass up.
And do you think this, this has

1880
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,260
to be computer generated, don't
you think? Oh,

1881
01:52:04,260 --> 01:52:07,140
John C Dvorak: absolutely, yeah.
I mean, because I would say

1882
01:52:07,140 --> 01:52:12,120
that, because Carter, although
it seems to be a guy who can

1883
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:18,420
really do the trick, this would
take too long to render by hand

1884
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:21,920
in the time allotted, allotted
this. This was done at the end

1885
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:22,460
of the show.

1886
01:52:23,420 --> 01:52:27,080
Adam Curry: Now, data tried it,
but he just, he just had, you

1887
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:28,220
know, some rando,

1888
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,220
John C Dvorak: Yeah, isn't that
the guy who won the Euros Song

1889
01:52:31,220 --> 01:52:32,540
Contest? Might be

1890
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,340
Adam Curry: it was too, too
random.

1891
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, George
Washington was the way to go.

1892
01:52:37,340 --> 01:52:38,300
Abe Lincoln. It

1893
01:52:38,300 --> 01:52:41,380
Adam Curry: was great. Hey, I
bet you you couldn't have done

1894
01:52:41,380 --> 01:52:44,440
it with Martin Luther King. I
bet you the the computer would

1895
01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:45,160
have rejected it.

1896
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,840
John C Dvorak: Good point. I bet
you 10 bucks. Yeah, probably

1897
01:52:49,900 --> 01:52:53,680
Adam Curry: Oh, he can't do
that. That's no good. What was

1898
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,100
cute is we had a couple of
people picking up on your your

1899
01:52:57,100 --> 01:53:02,820
hitchhiking story. So a lot of
Ford Mustangs with the with

1900
01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:06,840
cheesecake girls hitchhiking by
the side of the road. Yeah.

1901
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:08,280
Those were cute.

1902
01:53:08,340 --> 01:53:10,320
John C Dvorak: Those were cute.
There was, there was one on what

1903
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:17,940
we were gonna mention, sir shugs
Loomer screwball Curry was

1904
01:53:17,940 --> 01:53:22,220
rejected. It was a nice piece,
but we stopped accepting

1905
01:53:22,220 --> 01:53:26,480
crackpot and buzzkill solely.
Yeah, have that if you had

1906
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:30,140
Dvorak and curry, but not just
straight up. Crackpot and

1907
01:53:30,140 --> 01:53:31,520
buzzkill is not acceptable.

1908
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:35,300
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Kind of
broke the rules. And then comic

1909
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:37,820
strip blogger had some lewd
stuff that was never going to

1910
01:53:37,820 --> 01:53:40,360
make it, but I guess he just
thought that was funny, and lots

1911
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:47,020
more computer generated imagery.
I think that was, it wasn't it.

1912
01:53:47,020 --> 01:53:51,160
Think that was, yeah, pretty
much about it. There was a

1913
01:53:51,580 --> 01:53:56,740
pillow silence. Nestworks was a
decent try, but I don't think

1914
01:53:56,740 --> 01:54:01,200
anyone got it. My pillow guy
being shut up. Oh man, I can

1915
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:03,960
already see what the theme of
the show is for the art the that

1916
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:09,840
we're gonna have to choose from
lot of pagers, okay, we

1917
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,920
appreciate the work that every
single one of these artists do.

1918
01:54:14,580 --> 01:54:17,640
You can be one of them, and
we'll gladly tell you why we

1919
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,600
didn't pick you, or we might
pick you. You never know. I it

1920
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:23,840
was great to see this brand new
guy coming. Let me just check

1921
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,560
if, if Carter has done anything
since then. Let me see I look at

1922
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:32,540
his artist profile. Oh, yeah,
he's tired. No, no, he he has

1923
01:54:32,540 --> 01:54:33,380
another piece.

1924
01:54:33,500 --> 01:54:36,020
John C Dvorak: I have to say
something about the hitchhiking,

1925
01:54:36,140 --> 01:54:41,020
yes, which I observed, yes, uh,
because correct a record has a

1926
01:54:41,020 --> 01:54:44,200
AI hitchhiker with their thumb
up in the air, sticking straight

1927
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,620
up. There was something during
that era that was always

1928
01:54:47,620 --> 01:54:51,220
interesting, is that Americans,
when they hitchhike and use

1929
01:54:51,220 --> 01:54:55,060
their thumb, they point in the
direction that they're going.

1930
01:54:55,060 --> 01:54:59,680
Yes, that's true, and Europeans
always point in the direction of

1931
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,960
the. Oncoming car with the thumb
is that they point that they

1932
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,000
pointed the thumb in the wrong
direction.

1933
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,480
Adam Curry: Hitchhiking was
never a thing in Europe. In

1934
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,480
Europe, well, if it was, then
you just have a sign it was.

1935
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,760
That's probably why it was a
Berlin.

1936
01:55:14,820 --> 01:55:16,980
John C Dvorak: You got the thumb
in the wrong direction,

1937
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:21,380
Adam Curry: no, and I'm talking
70s, maybe when I saw that maybe

1938
01:55:21,380 --> 01:55:26,000
once or twice, but it was always
Berlin, you know, and that would

1939
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,120
be it. Hitchhiking was not a
thing, because we have trains,

1940
01:55:29,180 --> 01:55:32,420
you know, we have this service
in Europe. Didn't need to

1941
01:55:32,420 --> 01:55:33,080
hitchhike

1942
01:55:34,460 --> 01:55:37,700
John C Dvorak: anyway. It was
just, it was a it was a fad.

1943
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,160
Adam Curry: It was until, uh,
there must have been some movie

1944
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:47,080
where maybe I was in a movie,
or, I mean, it fell out of favor

1945
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:51,100
because it got deemed as very
dangerous, if I can recall, and,

1946
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:55,360
and I'm thinking, was it some
movie about a hitchhiker that

1947
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:56,800
got horribly killed? Or

1948
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,380
John C Dvorak: this somebody in
the in the troll room might

1949
01:55:59,380 --> 01:55:59,740
know,

1950
01:55:59,740 --> 01:56:02,580
Adam Curry: I can kind of
remember, there was some, some

1951
01:56:02,580 --> 01:56:06,000
movie that, Oh, you shouldn't be
hitchhiking. Is very dangerous.

1952
01:56:07,860 --> 01:56:10,800
Anyway. It's time to thank some
of our producers. We appreciate

1953
01:56:10,860 --> 01:56:14,400
anybody who sends anything back
to the show, because obviously

1954
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:18,660
it helps us pay well, it doesn't
help. It pays our bills. So

1955
01:56:18,660 --> 01:56:22,220
anything that that you can
afford that equals the value

1956
01:56:22,220 --> 01:56:24,920
that you receive from our show.
Maybe we just calmed you down.

1957
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,580
Maybe you got a business idea.
Some people somehow, oddly

1958
01:56:28,580 --> 01:56:31,640
enough, get stock tips, even
though we rarely even talk about

1959
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,640
anything, but just from the
meta, macro perspective of

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things, and we'd like to thank
our executive and Associate

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Executive producers in a special
segment, just like Hollywood

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does, usually at the opening
credits or certainly before the

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end credits come into play. And
we have one executive producer,

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the deal is $200 and above.
Associate Executive Producer, we

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read your note, $300 and above.
Executive Producer, Adam

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Frederick from Orange Vermont
comes in with 333 33 and he has

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a note which is written on when
holds Texaco service. Looks like

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a receipt. Do you think this is
like a receipt that you get at

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the gas

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John C Dvorak: station, or a
notepad from this garage at

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third and walnut streets, and he
also has a different attribution

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of where he's from. Yeah, per

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Adam Curry: Cassie. So he says,
Thank you for the news,

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deconstruction and analysis. If
I think of a more clever letter,

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I'll send it later to notes at
no agenda show.net.net,

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John C Dvorak: best regards. And
I'm not sure if he's promoting

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when holds Texaco service on
third and Walnut Street or not,

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01:57:43,180 --> 01:57:46,480
Adam Curry: I'm not sure,
because he's now of pocassey and

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01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:50,200
not orange, so he probably just
had that laying around and

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01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,840
thought it was cute, which is
good, and we appreciate it. So

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John C Dvorak: yeah, but they're
also the Texaco services in per

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Cassie.

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Adam Curry: Oh, it is, yeah,
look at this. Oh, you're right.

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You're right, bro. So maybe it
is, hey, if you're in perca

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Vermont, go check out when holds
Texaco service at third and

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walnut streets. Thank you. Adam
Frederick, our sole executive

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producer, Episode 1696

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John C Dvorak: Yes, I find that
peculiar. I'm gonna go jump to

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Linda lupatkin, because she's
already up there, because we

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only have three people in this
segment for whatever reason. And

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she wants jobs karma. And for a
resume that gets results, go to

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imagemakers inc.com, the go to
for all your executive resume

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01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:46,960
and job search needs is a $2,000
worth of publicity. That's image

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01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:50,200
makers Inc with the k.com with
Linda. Or get a whole Linda Lou

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01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:54,100
Duchess of jobs and a writer of
resumes. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: and work with Linda
Lou Duchess of jobs and writers.

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Unknown: Jobs, jobs and jobs,
let's vote for jobs,

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Adam Curry: and our final
Associate Executive producer is

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Eli the coffee guy, bensonville,
Illinois, 209. 19. He says the

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newsletter mentions of a gas
stove made me laugh. One of my

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01:59:18,060 --> 01:59:20,460
friends who was all in on the
narrative recently, you want to

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01:59:20,460 --> 01:59:22,760
explain what you want to
explain? What you put in the

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newsletter about the gas stoves?
I

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01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:26,960
John C Dvorak: put a headline
that because California is going

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01:59:27,140 --> 01:59:31,460
to try to propagandize the
public to hating gas stoves. Of

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01:59:31,460 --> 01:59:34,640
course, this is the sell more
electricity, which we which has

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:38,180
already put those big there's
already a burden on the electric

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01:59:38,180 --> 01:59:41,980
grid because of the cars,
electric cars, but now they want

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01:59:41,980 --> 01:59:45,460
to get rid of gas. And I think
it's just, I don't know who's

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01:59:45,460 --> 01:59:47,920
behind it, but the idea, I
think, is so when they do

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subdivisions, they don't have to
dig the trenches for the gas

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lines. That, I think is the real
reason behind it, not because

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it's killing anybody. I mean,
everyone would be dead in

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restaurants. They have nothing
but. Gas stoves running full

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02:00:01,860 --> 02:00:06,660
tilt all over the place. By the
by this argument, is this carbon

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02:00:06,660 --> 02:00:11,640
monoxide? Well, again, a carbon
monoxide detector. I've never

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had an issue.

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Adam Curry: Eli goes on to say,
one of my friends who was all in

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02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,720
on the narrative, recently
argued that outlawing outlawing

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02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,980
gas stoves would help fight
climate change and that I was

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02:00:21,980 --> 02:00:25,760
slowly poisoning my family with
carbon monoxide by cooking with

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02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:31,100
one. I guess it's cumulative,
ironic, since she also has a gas

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stove. And although I love my
gas stove when it comes to

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02:00:34,700 --> 02:00:38,420
coffee roasting, electric is the
way to go. Coffee roasted on

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02:00:38,420 --> 02:00:41,800
electric air roaster tastes
better using convection heat

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02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:45,940
overconduction. Visit gigawatt
Coffee roasters.com, and taste

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02:00:45,940 --> 02:00:49,840
the air roasted difference and
use discount code. ITM 20 for

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02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:53,740
20% off your order and stay
caffeinated. Says Eli, the

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coffee guy, I'm surprised you
don't have Diddy's lube supply

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as an Associate Executive
Producer today, because that's

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02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:06,900
it. That is yes, one exec to
associate executives, we will be

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thanking more people. It was, it
was just very few. In general,

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is you're right? I don't see any
stripe donations, hmm, I don't

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know lots to see what

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John C Dvorak: happens come in.
Who knows possible?

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Adam Curry: Any big anything is
possible. Anything is possible

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02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:24,080
is

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John C Dvorak: anything could
have been the solar flare? Yeah,

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there you

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02:01:28,100 --> 02:01:32,240
Adam Curry: go. Blame it on the
flare and the boogie. We'll be

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thanking people $50 and above in
our second segment. Of course,

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we want to remind everybody that
the way to really support the

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show on a sustaining basis, in
addition to anything extra that

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02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,440
you feel we are worthy of
because of the value you receive

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is by sending in a sustaining
donation that's any amount you

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02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:51,100
want, at any interval you want,
you determine it all for

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02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:55,060
yourself. You can find it at no
agenda donations.com support the

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show with your time, your talent
and your treasure, very

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02:01:57,820 --> 02:02:02,220
important. No agenda
donations.com and thank you for

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02:02:02,220 --> 02:02:05,700
being supporters of episodes our
formula, let me do that again.

2051
02:02:05,700 --> 02:02:08,400
I'll fix it in the mix. And
thank you for being supporters

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02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:13,620
of episode 1969 No, that's
wrong. I'll fix that in the mix.

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And thank you for being
supporters of episode 1696

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Unknown: our formula is this. We
go out, we hit people in the

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mouth.

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Adam Curry: I did one of those
on the curry and the keeper, and

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then Tina was listening to the
show later, she said, Hey, you

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didn't edit that out. I said, Of
course not. That's the whole

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02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:52,000
thing. People love hearing how
this is made. Yeah, that's how

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the sausage is made. Now in any
other podcast, oh no, I didn't

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sound very professional there.
Let me go back and fix the

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John C Dvorak: head as I had a
moment where I said, um, that

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out,

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Adam Curry: take out the ums.
Yes, indeed. Um, can I move to

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02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,580
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna, you
gotta request. Yes, you gotta

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02:03:14,580 --> 02:03:19,800
stop. I have a request, request
of you in particular. Uh oh, I

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02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:26,120
like that fake podcast so much
in terms of his laughable

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02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:30,140
qualities that I think we should
make a make it doesn't have to

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02:03:30,140 --> 02:03:34,460
be every show, but I think every
so often to play one of these

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fake AI podcasts would be kind
of funny. Okay, mentioning to

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02:03:41,540 --> 02:03:43,480
you, because I don't even know
where you got those

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Adam Curry: things. Well, the
way you make it is notebook, LM,

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anybody this is what we should
ask for our producers, because

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you're asking me something. I'm
like, work. No, not extra work.

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Anybody who uses notebook LM,
which, I don't know if that's

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02:04:02,460 --> 02:04:06,660
free or not. I don't have it.
You just drag a couple of text

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files in there and, say, make a
podcast. In fact, comics, your

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02:04:10,380 --> 02:04:15,180
blogger, this is your chance,
man. Because I agree. It sounded

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02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:19,800
so hokey. It was it was great.
It was cute. Yes, I got Clip of

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02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,520
the Day. Didn't I get Clip of
the Day for it? Yes, you did.

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That's good. That's good. Yes, I
wanted to move to Europe for a

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02:04:30,020 --> 02:04:33,980
moment because there's been a
shake up.

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02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:36,080
Unknown: A shake up.

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02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:42,820
Adam Curry: Let me see the shake
up is now, this is very

2085
02:04:42,820 --> 02:04:48,220
interesting. So Ursula von der
Leyen, known as Queen Ursula, in

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02:04:48,220 --> 02:04:54,460
circles of no agenda, was
reelected to be the queen of the

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European Union for another five
years. And somehow the. Because,

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you know, it's a democracy, she
just decides to change the whole

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02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:09,360
structure of the Starfleet
Command. There's no more vice

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02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:15,720
presidents in each different
area. It's just, you know, it's

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02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:20,300
just, they're not ministers, but
they're managers. I guess, of

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02:05:20,300 --> 02:05:25,640
certain areas, she's reshuffled
the areas, and she just decided

2093
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:29,960
who should be in those spots
based upon gender. Europe,

2094
02:05:30,620 --> 02:05:32,480
you're in trouble. Listen to
this,

2095
02:05:33,020 --> 02:05:34,820
Unknown: the European Wait,
yeah.

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02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:38,420
John C Dvorak: Wait before you
now, she was a famous politician

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that's been elected over and
over by the general public.

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Before she got these, these jobs
at the she was

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Adam Curry: basically kicked out
of the, I think she wasn't she

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02:05:47,020 --> 02:05:49,300
defend economics or something.

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John C Dvorak: She's never been
elected to anything. No, no. Oh,

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she's just a Yeah, okay.

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02:05:55,780 --> 02:05:57,220
Adam Curry: She's the queen,
though, think

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02:05:57,220 --> 02:06:00,040
Unknown: of the European
Commission, like the EU's civil

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02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:04,380
service, or the executive with
three main jobs to put forward

2106
02:06:04,380 --> 02:06:07,500
policies and legislation, to
make sure the legislation is

2107
02:06:07,500 --> 02:06:10,800
followed and to manage the EU's
budget. That

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02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:15,180
Adam Curry: seems like a job
elected officials should do, but

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02:06:15,180 --> 02:06:19,680
for some reason, she just gets
to appoint them, and then the

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02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:24,380
representatives of the people
get to say, Okay, it's

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Unknown: led by this woman, the
president Ursula von der Leyen,

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who's starting another five year
term in office. On Tuesday, she

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announced her top team of
commissioners and vice

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02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:37,760
presidents, 27 in total, each
nominated by an EU country and

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what jobs they're doing. First
thing to note, 40% of the new

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commissioners are women. That's
up significantly after the

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president forced some member
states to nominate them. Instead

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of men, six executive

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vice presidents, I assigned four
women and two men. So you

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recall, the share of the college
is 40% women, 60% men. We flip

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this.

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Secondly, the most influential
jobs went to Italy, Spain and

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02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:10,080
France, overseeing industrial
strategy, competition policy and

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the green transition, plus the
single market for

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that, we want to build a
competitive, decarbonised and

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structural economy.

2127
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Adam Curry: Competitive
decarbonized and circular sounds

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02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:28,880
like a tasty vegan donut. For

2129
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:33,440
Unknown: that, we want to build
a competitive, decarbonized and

2130
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:39,860
circular economy with a fair
transition for all, we will only

2131
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be able to do that when, if we
design a bold industrial

2132
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strategy with innovation and
investment at its heart.

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Adam Curry: Now, this was so
egregious. This just determining

2134
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that she wanted to have certain
roles played by women and other

2135
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roles by men that Thierry
Breton, he's the guy who was

2136
02:08:03,060 --> 02:08:06,060
threatening Elon Musk to, you
know, hey, you get you getting

2137
02:08:06,060 --> 02:08:08,580
in trouble if you don't stop
that election interference or

2138
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whatever it was. He resigned. He
rage quit. He says you're doing

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this for your personal, you
know, personal agendas. And

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you've told my country, France,
you told them to, you know, that

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02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,340
you want a woman. He didn't. I
didn't think he said woman, but

2142
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it was clear, and he rage quit
over it. And of course, no one

2143
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cares. So here's the second part
of this announcement.

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Unknown: Finally, there's a new
role. Lithuania's Andreas

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Kubilius will be in charge of
Defense and Space. It's his job

2146
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to persuade EU countries to pull
their defense spending and get

2147
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more bang for their buck. Very
first step, that's

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Adam Curry: kind of funny,
defense spending more bang for

2149
02:08:47,980 --> 02:08:48,760
your buck. His

2150
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:51,520
Unknown: job to persuade EU
countries to pull their defense

2151
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spending and get more bang for
their buck.

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The very first step that we did
is deducted from the political

2153
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guidelines to define our core
priorities, and they are built

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as you know, and it's no ranking
around prosperity, security,

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02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:14,280
democracy. This is the
overarching these are the

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02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,260
overarching topics. All of

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the nominees need final approval
from the European Parliament,

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which will take weeks the
President von der Leyen

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selection mirrors a difficult
juggling act, providing support

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to Ukraine, improving European
defense and reshaping the EU's

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economy to compete with China
and the US, while at the same

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time presiding over a bloc that
is more right wing and more

2163
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skeptical about Brussels power.
I'm

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Adam Curry: telling you, the
people of Europe should revolt

2165
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over this. This is an outrage
today. It's an outrage. Yeah,

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and just I pulled a 44 second
clip of her trying to convince

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everybody that now more
security, which is basically it.

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A war machine. More war machine
is good for the climate. The

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treaty says

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Unknown: very clearly, each
member of the college is equal,

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and each commissioner has an
equal responsibility to deliver

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on our priorities. That means
that all commissioners must work

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together, and it is in this
spirit that each Executive Vice

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President will also have a
portfolio to focus on, for which

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02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,400
they will have to work with
other commissioners. So

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Adam Curry: she just changed the
way it works. Not a problem.

2177
02:10:34,700 --> 02:10:36,380
It's a democracy. So

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02:10:36,380 --> 02:10:41,200
Unknown: in simple words, what
affects security also affects

2179
02:10:41,260 --> 02:10:45,220
the economy. What affects
climate or environment also

2180
02:10:45,220 --> 02:10:49,360
affects people, and vice versa,
the business community. And you

2181
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:51,640
can can go on with that.

2182
02:10:51,700 --> 02:10:55,900
Adam Curry: Run for the hills
Europe. Run for run to Hungary.

2183
02:10:56,080 --> 02:11:03,180
Do something. Man, she is crazy.
Absolutely, I don't understand

2184
02:11:03,180 --> 02:11:07,080
how. I mean, clearly it's, it
must be legal. But it just

2185
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:08,580
doesn't make any sense.

2186
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:11,400
Unknown: These people.

2187
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:16,020
John C Dvorak: Oh, they do. They
like to fall into this sort of

2188
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:23,180
kind of one man rule, one woman
rules thing. I have a couple of

2189
02:11:23,180 --> 02:11:26,600
clips from China. Actually,
we've just stay in Europe. Did I

2190
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:28,700
have I thought had a Ukrainian
keeping the

2191
02:11:28,700 --> 02:11:29,960
Adam Curry: mic, John, you're
drifting.

2192
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,600
John C Dvorak: Let's go to
China, because the China economy

2193
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,820
is tanking. Whoops, the

2194
02:11:37,820 --> 02:11:40,960
Unknown: Chinese Communist
Party's economy is tanking. But

2195
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:44,080
how is that offset by their
nonmarket business practices,

2196
02:11:44,260 --> 02:11:47,140
and what will happen if it's
left unchecked? Entity's

2197
02:11:47,140 --> 02:11:50,440
Washington correspondent Jack
Bradley has more from Capitol

2198
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:50,800
Hill

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02:11:51,340 --> 02:11:54,700
countering the Chinese Communist
Party's technology sector. This

2200
02:11:54,700 --> 02:11:57,760
was a topic of discussion at a
panel on Capitol Hill on

2201
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:00,720
Wednesday. They discussed what
would happen if the Chinese

2202
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:04,020
regime's unfair business
practices were left unchecked,

2203
02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:04,620
the US

2204
02:12:05,220 --> 02:12:08,940
John C Dvorak: economic thinking
is really oriented around one

2205
02:12:08,940 --> 02:12:13,020
thing, and that's allocation
efficiency. The Chinese system

2206
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:16,320
is not oriented. They don't care
about that. What they care about

2207
02:12:16,620 --> 02:12:21,380
first and foremost, is
dominating advanced industries

2208
02:12:21,500 --> 02:12:21,740
that

2209
02:12:21,740 --> 02:12:23,420
Unknown: are global and lead to
power.

2210
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,540
The event was hosted by the
Washington based think tank,

2211
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:30,140
Information Technology and
Innovation foundation. One of

2212
02:12:30,140 --> 02:12:32,960
the panelists, Rick Switzer, the
former director of the State

2213
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:36,620
Department, said, the US needs
to create industrial policy that

2214
02:12:36,620 --> 02:12:40,120
is self reliant, rather than
sourcing globally or being out

2215
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:43,660
competed by China's highly
subsidized products. And so if

2216
02:12:43,660 --> 02:12:47,260
we wait for a world where a
Taiwan invasion happens and that

2217
02:12:47,260 --> 02:12:49,180
hoping that that will break us
out of our stupor,

2218
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:52,300
it will have already been too
late. But war over Taiwan will

2219
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:56,200
will mean the collapse of the US
industrial ecosystem.

2220
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:00,100
I agree with that. I

2221
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:05,220
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But of
course, if the ecosystem

2222
02:13:05,220 --> 02:13:08,580
collapses, the US industrial
ecosystem collapses, so does

2223
02:13:08,580 --> 02:13:09,780
China's Yeah, we're so

2224
02:13:09,780 --> 02:13:15,120
Adam Curry: integrally,
intimately intertwined, yeah,

2225
02:13:15,180 --> 02:13:17,940
what when they say it's on the
verge of collapse? What does

2226
02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:21,860
that really mean? I mean, what
does that thing? It's just

2227
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:23,720
words. It's just

2228
02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:26,360
John C Dvorak: words. Okay,
there's part two.

2229
02:13:26,660 --> 02:13:28,940
Unknown: Keynote speaker,
Congressman John Molinar, who's

2230
02:13:28,940 --> 02:13:32,000
the Chair of the House Select
Committee on the CCP, said he

2231
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,700
used to think that economic
engagement with the Chinese

2232
02:13:34,700 --> 02:13:38,300
regime will lead to more freedom
in the country, but it turned

2233
02:13:38,300 --> 02:13:40,220
out the opposite was true, and

2234
02:13:40,220 --> 02:13:44,080
from the militarization of the
South China Sea to unabashed

2235
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:49,600
economic coercion and market
manipulation flooding our

2236
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:52,900
communities with fentanyl, the
Chinese Communist Party has

2237
02:13:52,900 --> 02:13:54,820
shown its true colors.

2238
02:13:54,820 --> 02:13:57,640
The bipartisan House Select
Committee on the CCP has

2239
02:13:57,640 --> 02:14:00,900
released over 150
recommendations on how to

2240
02:14:00,900 --> 02:14:04,140
counter the Chinese Communist
Party. This may be one of the

2241
02:14:04,140 --> 02:14:07,380
few areas of bipartisan
agreement that we see in

2242
02:14:07,380 --> 02:14:08,100
Congress.

2243
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:15,180
Adam Curry: Well, so they agree
on something, yeah, hmm. I mean,

2244
02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:16,260
I'm sorry, I

2245
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:18,780
John C Dvorak: was just gonna
say before you ask me, why don't

2246
02:14:18,780 --> 02:14:21,680
you play this clip, which is
from NHK about the China real

2247
02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:22,880
estate collapse?

2248
02:14:22,940 --> 02:14:24,620
Adam Curry: Yeah, that have been
following. New

2249
02:14:24,620 --> 02:14:29,360
Unknown: home prices are down in
over 95% of major Chinese cities

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surveyed. China's National
Bureau of Statistics said on

2251
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:36,080
Saturday, the prices fell in
August from the previous month

2252
02:14:36,140 --> 02:14:42,400
in 67 of 70 major cities. That's
one more than the 66 saw

2253
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:47,020
declines in July. Prices rose
month on month in two cities and

2254
02:14:47,020 --> 02:14:51,100
remained unchanged in one.
Looking at the biggest cities,

2255
02:14:51,100 --> 02:14:55,600
prices edged up by 0.6% in
Shanghai, but dropped in

2256
02:14:55,600 --> 02:15:02,520
Shenzhen by 0.8% and by 0.5% in.
Jin and Guangzhou, smaller

2257
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:07,920
regional cities, saw an average
decline of 0.8% steps taken by

2258
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:11,520
the government, such as
purchasing unsold homes have

2259
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:15,000
failed to reverse the property
slump. Observers are waiting to

2260
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,060
see if the government takes
further action. All

2261
02:15:18,060 --> 02:15:21,200
Adam Curry: right, so now
compare that to us. We just had

2262
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:26,480
a 50 basis point cut. I have not
heard the latest DH unplugged. I

2263
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:29,240
don't know what if you guys
predicted 50

2264
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:32,420
John C Dvorak: bits? No, we both
kind of pushed toward 25

2265
02:15:32,900 --> 02:15:35,240
Adam Curry: so what does this
mean? Does that mean the economy

2266
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:38,660
is in worse shape than than
being lied about? Or

2267
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:41,560
John C Dvorak: is it being lied
about.

2268
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:44,680
Adam Curry: Or is it to create
more money? Or what is that?

2269
02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:46,120
What is it about that's what

2270
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:48,340
John C Dvorak: kind of the
market is thinking. Is thinking,

2271
02:15:48,340 --> 02:15:51,520
well, 25 Wait a minute. Why are
they doing we kind of thought

2272
02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:53,680
they were gonna lie. The
consensus

2273
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:57,280
Adam Curry: was 25 was 25 right?
No, that

2274
02:15:57,340 --> 02:16:00,480
John C Dvorak: that flipped. Oh,
like days before. No, it was, it

2275
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:05,160
was most people thought was
going to be 50. Oh, yes, I was

2276
02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:10,380
kind of a surprise to me too.
And so, so the market goes, Oh,

2277
02:16:10,380 --> 02:16:13,500
great, we get this cheaper
money. Oh, wait a minute, that's

2278
02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:16,740
set telling us that this
bidenomics isn't working and the

2279
02:16:16,740 --> 02:16:19,440
economy's going down the tubes.
I don't know. What should I buy?

2280
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:21,800
Should I sell? It's caused a
dilemma,

2281
02:16:22,340 --> 02:16:25,280
Adam Curry: and I guess was it
four more cuts before the end of

2282
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:26,660
the year being announced,

2283
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:32,300
John C Dvorak: this mystery,
black magic.

2284
02:16:33,620 --> 02:16:36,860
Adam Curry: BlackRock magic is
what that is. BlackRock magic.

2285
02:16:36,860 --> 02:16:43,660
Meanwhile, as we suspected, the
Save act did not pass, and

2286
02:16:43,660 --> 02:16:47,920
therefore neither did the
continuing resolution, oh no, 13

2287
02:16:47,980 --> 02:16:50,380
days until the lights go out.
Just over

2288
02:16:50,380 --> 02:16:52,900
Unknown: an hour ago,
Republicans killed their own

2289
02:16:52,900 --> 02:16:56,200
bill to fund the government.
House Speaker Mike Johnson tied

2290
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:59,500
the funding to the Save act
requiring citizenship to vote,

2291
02:16:59,500 --> 02:17:03,480
which is, of course, already law
of the land punishable by

2292
02:17:03,960 --> 02:17:04,620
felony,

2293
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:07,680
Adam Curry: and he did so at the
back. I never heard that. What

2294
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:09,960
is that nonsense? What

2295
02:17:09,960 --> 02:17:13,200
John C Dvorak: this is the
Democrats talking point. It goes

2296
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:16,500
the following, why do we need
that law? Because we already,

2297
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:20,660
it's already a law that you
can't do that. We only it. So

2298
02:17:20,660 --> 02:17:23,840
I'm not going to vote for it.
The Democrats pull this stunt

2299
02:17:23,840 --> 02:17:26,840
all the time. They always throw
in these gratuitous laws about

2300
02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:31,400
usually involving abortion, and
they put something in some

2301
02:17:31,700 --> 02:17:36,560
document, and the Republicans
rebuke it. This is just

2302
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:40,960
gamesmanship, but politicking as
usual, yeah, oh no, it's hard.

2303
02:17:40,960 --> 02:17:44,200
Nobody's my the two talking
points I keep hearing over and

2304
02:17:44,200 --> 02:17:47,320
over again is, oh, it's already
against the law. You have to be

2305
02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:50,380
a citizen to vote, so I don't
see what the problem is. And the

2306
02:17:50,380 --> 02:17:53,980
other one is, oh, the number of
fraud, the amount of fraud and

2307
02:17:53,980 --> 02:17:57,880
the national elections, is so
minuscule you can barely count

2308
02:17:57,880 --> 02:17:58,060
it.

2309
02:17:58,059 --> 02:18:02,759
Adam Curry: It's not a grand
scale at all. Well, when these

2310
02:18:03,119 --> 02:18:05,999
types of issues come to light,
we need to bring out the Crypt

2311
02:18:05,999 --> 02:18:06,479
Keeper

2312
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:09,060
Unknown: House Speaker Mike
Johnson tied the funding to the

2313
02:18:09,060 --> 02:18:12,960
Save act requiring citizenship
to vote, which is, of course,

2314
02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:17,580
already law of the land
punishable by felony. And he did

2315
02:18:17,580 --> 02:18:20,820
so at the behest of Donald
Trump, who totally replicans

2316
02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:21,900
agree to a continued

2317
02:18:21,900 --> 02:18:22,880
resolution. Yeah. Sorry,

2318
02:18:24,020 --> 02:18:26,300
John C Dvorak: punishable by
felony.

2319
02:18:26,599 --> 02:18:28,219
Adam Curry: Is that what he
said, Yeah,

2320
02:18:28,219 --> 02:18:31,399
John C Dvorak: I said it's
punishable by felony. That's

2321
02:18:31,399 --> 02:18:34,579
right. No, it's a felony and
it's punishable, but it's not

2322
02:18:34,579 --> 02:18:37,459
punishable by felony.

2323
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:43,599
Unknown: Of course, already law
the land punishable by felony.

2324
02:18:43,660 --> 02:18:46,660
Adam Curry: Yeah, this Chris
Matthews being Come on. He's

2325
02:18:46,660 --> 02:18:47,440
excited because

2326
02:18:47,439 --> 02:18:48,999
John C Dvorak: that's not Chris
Matthews. That's

2327
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:54,160
Adam Curry: no Chris, Chris
Hayes. Hayes, yes, he's excited

2328
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:55,840
because the crypt keepers on the
line,

2329
02:18:56,260 --> 02:18:58,900
Unknown: and he did so at the
behest of Donald Trump, who told

2330
02:18:58,900 --> 02:19:02,100
Republicans not to agree to a
continuing resolution to fund

2331
02:19:02,100 --> 02:19:05,220
the government without it, but
enough Republicans voted against

2332
02:19:05,220 --> 02:19:07,860
it anyway, defeating their own
plan for a short term funding

2333
02:19:07,860 --> 02:19:11,820
bill 13 days before government
shutdown. I'm joined now by

2334
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,
democratic California.

2335
02:19:14,999 --> 02:19:19,139
Adam Curry: Emerita, please.
Speaker Emerita, we can't say

2336
02:19:19,139 --> 02:19:22,099
emeritus anymore, because you
know, that's misgendering.

2337
02:19:22,519 --> 02:19:24,259
Speaker Emerita join now,

2338
02:19:24,260 --> 02:19:25,580
Unknown: by the way, when

2339
02:19:25,580 --> 02:19:28,280
John C Dvorak: did this ever
happen? Anyone ever called this

2340
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:32,360
anyway? I've never heard it.
There's all kinds of ex speakers

2341
02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:34,880
here and there. They don't call
them on merit our America.

2342
02:19:34,880 --> 02:19:37,400
Adam Curry: No, they usually say
former Speaker of the House.

2343
02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:37,700
Yeah,

2344
02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:40,660
John C Dvorak: that would be
more, yes, gender neutral. It

2345
02:19:40,660 --> 02:19:43,660
would be white, poloy bullcrap.
We've

2346
02:19:43,660 --> 02:19:46,300
Adam Curry: already been through
this. I'm Adam curry. VJ

2347
02:19:46,300 --> 02:19:49,960
emeritus. We've already been
through this. This is our titles

2348
02:19:49,960 --> 02:19:54,340
now. John C Dvorak, columnist
Emeritus, 13

2349
02:19:54,340 --> 02:19:57,040
Unknown: days before Governor
shutdown, I'm joined now by

2350
02:19:57,040 --> 02:20:00,360
Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,
democratic California. We. What?

2351
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:03,060
What do you make of today's
vote? Well,

2352
02:20:03,060 --> 02:20:07,800
I think it's an example of
ineptitude, but it's also an

2353
02:20:07,800 --> 02:20:13,500
example of the President, former
president, being a puppeteer,

2354
02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:17,640
telling the Republicans in the
House that they must shut down

2355
02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:18,180
government.

2356
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:21,800
Adam Curry: The people don't
control the representatives

2357
02:20:21,800 --> 02:20:22,760
Trump controls them.

2358
02:20:22,760 --> 02:20:24,320
John C Dvorak: It's all Trump,
and

2359
02:20:24,860 --> 02:20:27,980
Unknown: that's usually does
shiny lights on his puppet

2360
02:20:28,700 --> 02:20:32,540
strings, so they really look
bad. But the fact is, I'm an

2361
02:20:32,540 --> 02:20:36,020
appropriator, and that's where a
budget bill comes from. The

2362
02:20:36,020 --> 02:20:39,680
preparations committee, Laura
was our leader on the House

2363
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:43,840
side, and we've always said,
left to their own devices, the

2364
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:47,260
Democrats and Republicans on the
Appropriations Committee can

2365
02:20:47,260 --> 02:20:52,660
find a compromise, a solution.
You just have to want to do

2366
02:20:52,660 --> 02:20:57,340
that. Apparently, the Republican
leadership in the House has

2367
02:20:57,340 --> 02:21:00,840
decided they don't want to leave
it up to the appropriators, who

2368
02:21:00,840 --> 02:21:04,680
know the legislation very well,
and they want to leave it up to

2369
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:08,280
Donald Trump, who doesn't, but
who wants to shut down

2370
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:10,200
government, which would be a
tragedy?

2371
02:21:10,380 --> 02:21:11,820
Adam Curry: Yeah, because, of
course, everyone

2372
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:14,520
John C Dvorak: wants a horrible
tragedy. Well, what never

2373
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:17,460
happened before? We've been
doing this show for almost 17

2374
02:21:17,460 --> 02:21:20,540
years, even though we still
don't get any money. Apparently,

2375
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:23,000
we've been doing the show for
almost where's your

2376
02:21:23,060 --> 02:21:28,460
appropriations? And this has not
happened, like, over and over

2377
02:21:28,460 --> 02:21:30,440
and over again. Yeah.

2378
02:21:31,460 --> 02:21:35,540
Adam Curry: Now Trump did post
on truth social. Truth social,

2379
02:21:36,260 --> 02:21:40,780
he posted, we can't let them get
away with it. We can't let them

2380
02:21:40,780 --> 02:21:45,040
have illegals like this law is
going to stop anything. I don't

2381
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:49,360
see how this bill will stop
anything. You know, the the

2382
02:21:49,360 --> 02:21:51,760
people who have, uh, come out,
well,

2383
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:54,280
John C Dvorak: I'll protect the
elections. The bill's not

2384
02:21:54,280 --> 02:21:59,140
designed to stop anything. It's
designed to get the Democrats to

2385
02:21:59,260 --> 02:22:03,840
vote no on it. So you can point
the finger. Look, they want

2386
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:05,160
illegals to vote

2387
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:08,520
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, correct,
correct. And it was Massey who

2388
02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:11,820
said, this is a stupid he says,
I'm not going to be a thespian

2389
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:13,740
in this theater. I mean, this
seems like

2390
02:22:13,740 --> 02:22:15,540
Unknown: a situation which
there's broad bipartisan

2391
02:22:15,540 --> 02:22:18,420
consensus to pass a continuing
resolution fund the government

2392
02:22:18,420 --> 02:22:19,620
and avoid a shutdown. And

2393
02:22:19,620 --> 02:22:22,340
Adam Curry: by the way, Massey's
right. We shouldn't be doing

2394
02:22:22,340 --> 02:22:26,180
these continuing resolutions.
It's there were 12 bills they

2395
02:22:26,180 --> 02:22:28,700
should have voted on, maybe
more. They should have just

2396
02:22:28,700 --> 02:22:31,100
voted on them instead of horsing
around.

2397
02:22:31,280 --> 02:22:33,920
Unknown: But Donald Trump is
obsessed with this piece of

2398
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:36,020
legislation, which essentially
is a kind of

2399
02:22:36,620 --> 02:22:41,380
institutionalization of The Big
Lie rant on his social media,

2400
02:22:41,620 --> 02:22:44,080
including many things that they
don't have to get the Save act.

2401
02:22:44,440 --> 02:22:48,280
He accuses Democrats falsely of
registering illegal voters by

2402
02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:52,420
the 10s of 1000s as we speak,
and he calls the shutdown so

2403
02:22:52,420 --> 02:22:55,900
this, this is both. He wants
them to shut the government down

2404
02:22:55,960 --> 02:22:58,600
so that they could promote the
big lie, basically,

2405
02:22:59,140 --> 02:22:59,920
well,

2406
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:02,100
the big lie?

2407
02:23:02,400 --> 02:23:03,900
John C Dvorak: What is the big
lie

2408
02:23:04,740 --> 02:23:06,600
Adam Curry: that the election
was stolen?

2409
02:23:07,980 --> 02:23:09,780
John C Dvorak: What's that got
to do is shutting down the

2410
02:23:09,780 --> 02:23:10,800
government? Hey,

2411
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,320
Adam Curry: we got to fill air
time. It's Nancy Pelosi on the

2412
02:23:13,320 --> 02:23:14,220
line. His

2413
02:23:14,220 --> 02:23:16,980
Unknown: lips were moving. He
was lying, and that's just the

2414
02:23:16,980 --> 02:23:20,160
way it is. He sometimes doesn't
even know what he's talking

2415
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:23,540
about, and other times he just
makes it up as he goes along.

2416
02:23:23,840 --> 02:23:27,500
But it's really a tragedy, and I
just only wish they would leave

2417
02:23:27,500 --> 02:23:30,860
it up to the Congress to pass
the legislation that is

2418
02:23:30,860 --> 02:23:34,100
necessary to keep government
open. He's not even in the

2419
02:23:34,100 --> 02:23:36,980
government, and yet he wants to
shut it down.

2420
02:23:37,460 --> 02:23:39,680
Adam Curry: He wants to she's
not even in the government. He

2421
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:44,740
wants to shut it down. This man
is no good. Unfortunately, it

2422
02:23:44,740 --> 02:23:48,220
turns out that Kamala Harris is
also no good. We have to choose

2423
02:23:48,220 --> 02:23:52,300
between the worst of two. No
goods, even Dana Bash is tired

2424
02:23:52,300 --> 02:23:52,720
of it. When

2425
02:23:52,720 --> 02:23:55,720
Unknown: you listen to Kamala
Harris and what she will do, you

2426
02:23:55,720 --> 02:23:59,200
can almost start a drinking game
every time she says, small

2427
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:00,100
businesses. Let

2428
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:01,680
me let me give you an example.
Part of

2429
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:05,040
my plan under my economic
opportunity plan going forward,

2430
02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:10,740
is that, right now, startup
entrepreneurs, small businesses,

2431
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:15,180
only get a tax deduction of
$5,000 nobody can start small

2432
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:18,780
business with $5,000 so I'm
expanding that to $50,000

2433
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:24,260
understanding again, that when
people have the opportunity to

2434
02:24:24,260 --> 02:24:27,320
have the resources to get
started, they're going to put

2435
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:29,780
the good ideas, they're going to
put the hard work into it.

2436
02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:30,740
Describe the

2437
02:24:30,740 --> 02:24:33,320
politics of that. She says that
she also talks about being a

2438
02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:35,720
middle class kid. That's also
the front of her answers. If you

2439
02:24:35,720 --> 02:24:37,940
look at the interviews they've
been doing local media, and

2440
02:24:37,940 --> 02:24:40,160
they've opened up a bit more
since the debate. The first

2441
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,700
question is often, what are you
going to do to lower prices,

2442
02:24:42,700 --> 02:24:45,220
which is a very hard question
for an incumbent party to

2443
02:24:45,220 --> 02:24:47,680
answer, and it has implicate
implications that are very

2444
02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:50,380
Trumpian. It is. Trump says he's
going to do mass deportation

2445
02:24:50,380 --> 02:24:53,020
that will decrease demand. Trump
says he'll explore more energy

2446
02:24:53,020 --> 02:24:55,720
that'll decrease energy costs.
Democrats can point to the fact

2447
02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:58,900
that inflation is actually it
was bad two years ago. It's not

2448
02:24:58,900 --> 02:25:01,980
now good. People want to hear
is, how do you make the prices

2449
02:25:01,980 --> 02:25:04,740
go down? So everything she says
is something realistic that

2450
02:25:04,740 --> 02:25:07,740
could survive a fact check that
answers a very hard question.

2451
02:25:07,860 --> 02:25:10,500
There is not a plan to say, to
say that we're going to lower

2452
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:13,860
the cost of your grocery bill to
what it was in 2019 there was a

2453
02:25:13,860 --> 02:25:17,280
pandemic, there was a money,
money supply inflation. You

2454
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:19,860
can't hit the button that makes
that go away. But Trump has an

2455
02:25:19,860 --> 02:25:21,980
answer that gets them through
these questions. And Harris, I

2456
02:25:21,980 --> 02:25:24,320
think, with a different set of
incentives and a different

2457
02:25:24,320 --> 02:25:27,260
relationship to something she
can back up in the policy paper.

2458
02:25:27,260 --> 02:25:30,080
She doesn't have an answer, so
she goes to a larger Well,

2459
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:32,900
imagine a future where there are
more businesses and this starts

2460
02:25:32,900 --> 02:25:33,560
to ameliorate.

2461
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:37,760
Adam Curry: Yes, imagine a
future so it's not good when CNN

2462
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:41,620
is talking about drinking games
on your talking points, and

2463
02:25:41,620 --> 02:25:47,440
Martha Raddatz, oh, man, she got
mad, and she got mad and she

2464
02:25:47,500 --> 02:25:50,080
didn't have Kamala there to get
mad at, because, you know,

2465
02:25:50,140 --> 02:25:54,400
that's obviously sacrilegious,
but Massachusetts governor Maura

2466
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:58,600
Healey got the full frontal
assault from a mad Martha.

2467
02:25:58,900 --> 02:26:03,600
Unknown: I want to ask you about
her comments about the military.

2468
02:26:03,900 --> 02:26:09,780
She said during the debate this
about the US military, let's

2469
02:26:09,780 --> 02:26:10,140
listen,

2470
02:26:10,380 --> 02:26:14,700
as of today, there is not one
member of the United States

2471
02:26:14,700 --> 02:26:19,500
military who is in active duty
in a combat zone, in any war

2472
02:26:19,500 --> 02:26:22,700
zone around the world. The first
time this century, our

2473
02:26:22,700 --> 02:26:25,700
fact checkers found that to be
false, and I have a lot of

2474
02:26:25,700 --> 02:26:29,480
experience in that area as well.
There are currently 900 US

2475
02:26:29,480 --> 02:26:34,340
military personnel in Syria.
2500 US troops in Iraq, all have

2476
02:26:34,340 --> 02:26:39,680
been under regular threat from
drones and missiles for months.

2477
02:26:39,680 --> 02:26:43,660
We also have action in the Red
Sea. We also, every single day,

2478
02:26:43,660 --> 02:26:48,040
the Navy SEALs, Delta forces,
special operators can be part of

2479
02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:48,160
it.

2480
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:50,380
Adam Curry: Sounds like her son
is in the special ops or

2481
02:26:50,380 --> 02:26:52,780
something. She's getting worked
up over this,

2482
02:26:52,780 --> 02:26:55,960
Unknown: any sort of deadly
raid. So why would she make that

2483
02:26:55,960 --> 02:26:56,380
claim?

2484
02:26:56,440 --> 02:26:57,400
Adam Curry: What say you

2485
02:26:57,700 --> 02:26:59,800
Unknown: I think what's
important here, Martha is that

2486
02:26:59,920 --> 02:27:04,080
Kamala Harris, in contrast to
Donald Trump, demonstrated

2487
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:08,400
herself to be commander in
chief. We are in a world where

2488
02:27:08,580 --> 02:27:11,940
there are all sorts of
conflicts. What reason we

2489
02:27:11,940 --> 02:27:15,540
somebody who serious and who
supports the military? Just

2490
02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:16,020
remember,

2491
02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:20,720
Governor, excuse me, but she
said there is not one member of

2492
02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:24,200
the United States military who
is an active duty in a combat

2493
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:28,340
zone. That is not true. You say
she demonstrated her ability to

2494
02:27:28,340 --> 02:27:32,120
be commander in chief. But did
she not know about these people

2495
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:36,320
in Syria and Iraq? Why would she
say that? Look, that

2496
02:27:36,320 --> 02:27:39,920
was a comment. That was a
comment in a debate. I think the

2497
02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:42,520
point that she was trying to
make was a broader point. And of

2498
02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:45,040
course, we have military in
place all around this country.

2499
02:27:45,100 --> 02:27:45,700
You're not a

2500
02:27:46,900 --> 02:27:48,160
Adam Curry: very good surrogate.
Get out

2501
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:50,380
John C Dvorak: of here. Get off
and then she says all around

2502
02:27:50,380 --> 02:27:51,820
this country, yes, this

2503
02:27:51,880 --> 02:27:54,400
Adam Curry: is the best that's
us. Yeah, may have this

2504
02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:54,940
military,

2505
02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:59,620
John C Dvorak: have you? So
we're an active Yes, we

2506
02:27:59,620 --> 02:28:02,460
Adam Curry: are correct. We are
a war zone. There was this great

2507
02:28:02,460 --> 02:28:08,940
video I saw on telegram. Then
it's being filmed the debate. So

2508
02:28:08,940 --> 02:28:12,600
it's shot from behind some
heads. You probably saw it,

2509
02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:14,760
yeah. And then she says, Oh,
there's no one in active

2510
02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:17,340
military. And then they flip the
camera around. It's all these

2511
02:28:17,460 --> 02:28:21,320
dudes sitting in a tent, in some
in some desert somewhere, going,

2512
02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:25,700
wow. What about us? Yeah, but
that, but, you know, that's

2513
02:28:25,700 --> 02:28:29,600
Martha Raddatz, ABC. The debate
was on ABC, no fact checking

2514
02:28:29,600 --> 02:28:30,200
there.

2515
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's kind
of interesting. And

2516
02:28:35,780 --> 02:28:38,000
Adam Curry: you know this, I
think it was Dan or bash, you

2517
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:38,900
know, talking about the

2518
02:28:38,900 --> 02:28:41,440
Unknown: future, something's up.

2519
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:45,520
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, no. Well,
Trump needs to win. Trump needs

2520
02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:49,180
to win. That's why, 50 basis
points. Because let's

2521
02:28:49,180 --> 02:28:52,540
John C Dvorak: go back to the
Ruth guy. How about this? Oh

2522
02:28:52,540 --> 02:28:57,820
guys, MK, Ultra, he was never
meant to shoot. And the reason

2523
02:28:57,820 --> 02:29:01,440
that the, oh, the super
observant, uh, Secret Service

2524
02:29:01,440 --> 02:29:04,560
guy, because they was just they
let they knew he was there. As

2525
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:07,560
soon as he stuck the gun out,
they took a couple of pot shots.

2526
02:29:07,560 --> 02:29:09,960
The whole thing was a setup,
just to make it look like

2527
02:29:09,960 --> 02:29:12,420
another assassination attempt.
And the whole thing was just to

2528
02:29:12,420 --> 02:29:13,740
get more attention to Trump.

2529
02:29:13,800 --> 02:29:17,280
Adam Curry: I think it's very
plausible. It's plausible

2530
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:17,700
because the

2531
02:29:17,700 --> 02:29:20,900
John C Dvorak: guy's an idiot,
this Ruth guy, yeah, we've seen

2532
02:29:20,900 --> 02:29:24,080
his interviews in the after the
fact, and he's apparently, when

2533
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:26,960
they took him into court, he's
laughing, yucking it up, like

2534
02:29:26,960 --> 02:29:29,960
he's got it made or something,
or he did the right thing or

2535
02:29:29,960 --> 02:29:31,220
something, that he felt like

2536
02:29:31,220 --> 02:29:33,860
Adam Curry: the Manchurian
Candidate who was also totally

2537
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:38,000
and when they arrested him,
Manchurian Candidate, I wonder

2538
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:43,000
what His trigger word was.
Maybe, maybe we could use a

2539
02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:45,940
trigger word and might activate
some MK Ultra people,

2540
02:29:46,480 --> 02:29:48,460
John C Dvorak: yeah, and tell
them to donate.

2541
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:54,580
Adam Curry: That's the trigger
word, Donate.

2542
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:56,500
Unknown: Donate.

2543
02:29:58,420 --> 02:30:01,920
Adam Curry: Um, I picked this up
from. A the guy on Tiktok, Chad

2544
02:30:01,980 --> 02:30:08,700
o Jackson, and I was thinking of
just telling you this story, but

2545
02:30:08,820 --> 02:30:11,880
he put it together so well. It's
only a minute and a half that I

2546
02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:16,920
figured I'd just use his audio.
Because this one, I mean, we've,

2547
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:21,980
we know about the Joy Division
and the, you know, the although

2548
02:30:21,980 --> 02:30:28,820
never used, the whole concept of
joy, is kind of a Goebbels esque

2549
02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:34,400
type of, yeah, and what was the
other one? Strength through joy,

2550
02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:37,700
although they never used it,
it's all implied and just the

2551
02:30:37,700 --> 02:30:43,600
joy word. But there's other
things she says which come

2552
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:48,220
directly from the Communist
Party, and Chatto Jackson puts

2553
02:30:48,220 --> 02:30:49,240
it together, and

2554
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:50,440
Unknown: we are not going back.

2555
02:30:51,100 --> 02:30:58,120
America is ready for a new way
forward. We are not going back.

2556
02:30:58,180 --> 02:31:03,600
We together will chart a new way
forward. We're not going back

2557
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:05,580
together. We'll move forward.

2558
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:09,360
We're not going back forward
together, folks, this has

2559
02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:13,080
literally been the slogan of the
Communist Party for the past 10

2560
02:31:13,080 --> 02:31:16,260
years. I'm not even joking. If
you go to the Communist Party

2561
02:31:16,260 --> 02:31:19,380
USA website, three years ago,
communist co chair Rosanna

2562
02:31:19,380 --> 02:31:22,760
Cambron literally wrote an
article titled, we're not going

2563
02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:26,660
back forward together. Rosanna
is a communist to and through

2564
02:31:26,660 --> 02:31:28,340
and she's unashamed of it.
That's

2565
02:31:28,340 --> 02:31:31,760
how we communists work. This is
how you build that movement

2566
02:31:31,760 --> 02:31:35,540
that's going to be the massive
movement that we need to topple

2567
02:31:35,600 --> 02:31:36,500
capitalism. It's

2568
02:31:36,500 --> 02:31:39,440
not a coincidence that this just
so happens to be Kamala Harris's

2569
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:42,580
campaign slogan, nor did she
plagiarize it from the Communist

2570
02:31:42,580 --> 02:31:46,420
Party. Communists have long
acted as the kind of ideological

2571
02:31:46,420 --> 02:31:50,020
undergird of the Democrat party
here in the United States, and

2572
02:31:50,020 --> 02:31:52,240
Kamala Harris is just a
continuation of that.

2573
02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:54,100
Together, together,

2574
02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:57,940
we'll move forward again. For
the past decade, communists have

2575
02:31:57,940 --> 02:32:00,780
been given speeches all over the
country where they have the

2576
02:32:00,780 --> 02:32:04,500
banner we're not going back,
plastered behind them. Chicago

2577
02:32:04,500 --> 02:32:06,420
has produced more outstanding

2578
02:32:06,420 --> 02:32:09,720
communist leaders, maybe than
any other place around in a lot

2579
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:10,260
of ways. So

2580
02:32:10,260 --> 02:32:13,200
this begs the question, do you
continue to pretend that Kamala

2581
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:17,220
Harris is not influenced by
communist ideology, choosing

2582
02:32:17,220 --> 02:32:20,600
instead to blindly accept the
Marxian policies that she's

2583
02:32:20,600 --> 02:32:24,260
pushing forward, or do you
choose not to be the idiot they

2584
02:32:24,260 --> 02:32:25,040
think you are?

2585
02:32:26,300 --> 02:32:29,300
Adam Curry: I thought that was
quite good. Well, there's

2586
02:32:29,300 --> 02:32:31,640
John C Dvorak: a there was an
analysis that's similar to that

2587
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:35,720
about the unburdened by comment
that she used to make, yes, and

2588
02:32:35,720 --> 02:32:38,240
that's communist too, yes.

2589
02:32:38,360 --> 02:32:39,980
Adam Curry: And, you know,
commune, you either have

2590
02:32:39,980 --> 02:32:45,940
communism or you have a system
such as was determined by our

2591
02:32:45,940 --> 02:32:50,860
founding fathers, who say that
the laws don't come from

2592
02:32:50,860 --> 02:32:54,280
government, but the laws come
from our Creator. And so it's

2593
02:32:54,280 --> 02:32:59,020
really, we really are at a
either this laws, the rights,

2594
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:02,820
the I'm sorry, the lights, the
rights you're correct in alien

2595
02:33:02,820 --> 02:33:05,220
is it inalienable or
unalienable?

2596
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:09,660
John C Dvorak: I think both are
proper, but I think inalienable,

2597
02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:12,180
inalienable is what they like to
use.

2598
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:18,600
Adam Curry: So it's either that
or communism, because communism

2599
02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:23,420
definitely doesn't is not on
board with that train. No, so

2600
02:33:23,540 --> 02:33:23,780
that's

2601
02:33:23,840 --> 02:33:26,060
John C Dvorak: also mean, anti
capitalist.

2602
02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:28,040
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,

2603
02:33:28,460 --> 02:33:31,460
John C Dvorak: no good, because
it benefits the people that

2604
02:33:31,460 --> 02:33:32,960
actually put a lot of effort
into

2605
02:33:32,960 --> 02:33:36,140
Adam Curry: it. You see that
video where there's one, this is

2606
02:33:36,140 --> 02:33:40,220
a famous the YouTuber dude, and
he goes on to college campuses,

2607
02:33:40,220 --> 02:33:43,660
and you say, you know, what do
you think about socialism? Yeah,

2608
02:33:43,660 --> 02:33:46,540
I think it's really good, you
know. And so why don't we take

2609
02:33:46,540 --> 02:33:49,360
some of your grade point average
and give it to someone who has a

2610
02:33:49,360 --> 02:33:53,380
lower grade point average? Have
you seen this? They all go like,

2611
02:33:53,380 --> 02:33:56,020
well, that's not fair. No, I
worked really hard, say, but

2612
02:33:56,020 --> 02:33:58,420
people who work really hard and
make more money, why should they

2613
02:33:58,420 --> 02:34:01,740
give their money away? Well,
but, and they all get brain

2614
02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:02,340
freeze.

2615
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:06,360
John C Dvorak: Well, you have to
always go back to the the basic

2616
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:11,040
phrase of the whole system,
which is, uh, give to each

2617
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:14,820
according to their needs and
take from each according from

2618
02:34:15,060 --> 02:34:22,940
according to their abilities.
Yeah, from each according to

2619
02:34:22,940 --> 02:34:25,520
their abilities to each
according to their needs. So

2620
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:31,340
people that need more and are
enabled to do anything, yeah, we

2621
02:34:31,340 --> 02:34:34,280
have a little bit of that for
people that are disabled, but

2622
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:39,320
for the normal person, you don't
want to do that. But okay, and

2623
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:42,940
so do you redistribute things?
And that's what equity is all

2624
02:34:42,940 --> 02:34:45,820
about, and that's why equity is
so important to the Democrats

2625
02:34:45,820 --> 02:34:47,680
equity. So

2626
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:54,760
Adam Curry: I have two similar
but contrasting clips, because

2627
02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:57,760
the Christian nationalists are,
of course, the problem. They are

2628
02:34:57,880 --> 02:35:00,780
the ones that are going to elect
Donald Trump. Know they've never

2629
02:35:00,780 --> 02:35:01,680
come out to vote.

2630
02:35:01,800 --> 02:35:04,920
John C Dvorak: They never vote,
yeah, but this is a vote. They

2631
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:05,940
don't care. Yes,

2632
02:35:05,940 --> 02:35:07,980
Adam Curry: but you don't
understand the networks. The

2633
02:35:07,980 --> 02:35:12,240
networks, the pastor network is,
in effect, they

2634
02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:15,780
Unknown: call themselves God's
soldiers, fighting to save the

2635
02:35:15,780 --> 02:35:20,040
soul of America. Their weapon,
the Bible. These Christian

2636
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:23,120
nationalists believe that
religion should define us laws

2637
02:35:23,180 --> 02:35:26,120
and set the country back on
track. Around

2638
02:35:26,300 --> 02:35:28,100
this church, you can get out.
Get out.

2639
02:35:29,780 --> 02:35:31,220
You demon from Donald

2640
02:35:31,220 --> 02:35:34,220
Trump, they might even help him
return to the White House.

2641
02:35:34,340 --> 02:35:35,000
President

2642
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:41,080
Trump is the man that will be
bring righteousness the rule of

2643
02:35:41,080 --> 02:35:45,820
law and the Judeo Christian
values to our civilization.

2644
02:35:46,300 --> 02:35:51,160
Many stormed the capitol in
january 2021 and could have a

2645
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:55,960
drastic impact on American
democracy. For many Christian

2646
02:35:55,960 --> 02:36:00,160
nationalists, Donald Trump is a
hero. Donald Trump also relies

2647
02:36:00,160 --> 02:36:04,200
on preachers to rally his
evangelical base, like Jackson

2648
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:08,880
lawmaker, founder of pastors for
Trump, officially, pastors are

2649
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:12,120
not allowed to tell people who
to vote for, but Jackson

2650
02:36:12,120 --> 02:36:15,180
lawmaker has found another way
to influence voters.

2651
02:36:16,740 --> 02:36:19,260
You could target them one by
one, cost you a lot of money,

2652
02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:22,700
take a lot of time, or you could
go and you could influence

2653
02:36:22,700 --> 02:36:27,620
pastors to encourage their
churches to register to vote, to

2654
02:36:27,620 --> 02:36:30,500
vote their value system. And if
Christians vote their value

2655
02:36:30,500 --> 02:36:33,020
system, they will vote for
Donald Trump.

2656
02:36:33,680 --> 02:36:37,520
According to religious experts,
radical Christian nationalism is

2657
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:38,360
on the rise,

2658
02:36:39,560 --> 02:36:43,420
if you are talking about
spiritual warfare all the time.

2659
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:50,260
It's a very small jump to get to
actual warfare. We see more

2660
02:36:50,260 --> 02:36:57,820
threats to poll workers, to
candidates, to our democracy as

2661
02:36:57,820 --> 02:36:58,180
a whole.

2662
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:01,740
About a third of Americans say
they support Christian

2663
02:37:01,740 --> 02:37:05,220
nationalism, and they could sway
the upcoming election in

2664
02:37:05,220 --> 02:37:05,760
November.

2665
02:37:07,680 --> 02:37:10,980
Adam Curry: That's from France
24 by the way. And there are

2666
02:37:10,980 --> 02:37:15,060
definitely, definitely networks
who are encouraging pastors to

2667
02:37:15,060 --> 02:37:20,040
have people vote for biblical
values. And I think this next

2668
02:37:20,040 --> 02:37:26,600
pastor who was from the world,
what is this? Called the world

2669
02:37:26,660 --> 02:37:30,680
overcomers. Church is probably
one of them. There's just one

2670
02:37:30,680 --> 02:37:32,540
problem. He's not white.

2671
02:37:33,380 --> 02:37:37,760
Unknown: I can't do it. I can't
do it. I don't care what

2672
02:37:37,760 --> 02:37:43,540
President what color he is. If
you ain't in line with God, I

2673
02:37:43,540 --> 02:37:46,720
can't stand with you. You're
getting off with God because

2674
02:37:46,720 --> 02:37:52,420
you're trying to stand with
black I can't vote for a party

2675
02:37:52,600 --> 02:37:58,180
that is for all kind of sexual
perversions. I can't do it. I

2676
02:37:58,180 --> 02:38:02,100
can't go with a party that says
you can be a boy today and a

2677
02:38:02,100 --> 02:38:07,620
girl tomorrow. I can't do it. I
can't do it. I can't support a

2678
02:38:07,620 --> 02:38:14,820
party that wants to remove God
from its party platform. You in

2679
02:38:14,820 --> 02:38:21,020
trouble when the nation forgets
God. Y'all got to make a

2680
02:38:21,020 --> 02:38:26,000
decision, I gotta be with my
color. I gotta stand with my

2681
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:33,380
color, meaning I'll reject
Christ. Color going to get you

2682
02:38:33,380 --> 02:38:39,740
in trouble. It's either God or
the devil. But when you vote for

2683
02:38:39,740 --> 02:38:44,680
people with these convictions,
and they get in office, and they

2684
02:38:44,680 --> 02:38:50,320
start doing these things you got
a responsibility for. You can't

2685
02:38:50,320 --> 02:38:56,560
separate your politics from your
biblical worldview. It's my

2686
02:38:56,560 --> 02:39:02,820
biblical worldview that
determines my politics you vote

2687
02:39:02,820 --> 02:39:07,260
for whoever you want, but you're
gonna have to stand before God.

2688
02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:07,980
No.

2689
02:39:07,980 --> 02:39:09,420
It's a big problem. Big

2690
02:39:09,420 --> 02:39:11,940
John C Dvorak: problem that guy
brought up to Saint Peter to

2691
02:39:11,940 --> 02:39:16,680
give you hell for voting for
Camelot. I have to play a

2692
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:22,820
counter clip. Okay? Tick tock.
This is a talk clip. Republicans

2693
02:39:22,820 --> 02:39:23,480
hate women.

2694
02:39:23,660 --> 02:39:28,580
Unknown: I'm having flashbacks
to 2016 when all I heard was, I

2695
02:39:28,880 --> 02:39:31,460
don't have an issue with a woman
being president, just not that

2696
02:39:31,460 --> 02:39:35,420
woman, not that woman. How many
times do we hear that in 2016

2697
02:39:36,020 --> 02:39:40,940
and it's all coming back, it's
all coming back, not that woman.

2698
02:39:41,660 --> 02:39:44,200
So the people who are saying not
that woman, I'm sure, said that

2699
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:49,060
about Hillary as well. And my
question is, Which woman, woman

2700
02:39:49,060 --> 02:39:51,820
would it take for you to vote
for? Would have to be a

2701
02:39:51,820 --> 02:39:55,300
Republican Woman? Because I
don't think that's ever going to

2702
02:39:55,300 --> 02:39:59,140
happen. Because Republicans hate
women, regardless of whether you

2703
02:39:59,140 --> 02:40:04,440
agree or not. It's just a fact
they hate women. They picked a

2704
02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:09,480
convicted felon, wannabe
dictator, over a woman to

2705
02:40:09,540 --> 02:40:13,140
represent them. So keep waiting.
Yeah,

2706
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:14,940
Adam Curry: whoever that was,
not a woman.

2707
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:19,620
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
was a

2708
02:40:19,620 --> 02:40:21,740
Unknown: woman, not telling me
that was a woman.

2709
02:40:23,840 --> 02:40:26,900
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's
your counter programming, right

2710
02:40:26,900 --> 02:40:27,920
there. So

2711
02:40:27,920 --> 02:40:32,540
Adam Curry: the 50 basis point,
uh, cut immediately sent Bitcoin

2712
02:40:32,540 --> 02:40:33,380
up the chart,

2713
02:40:34,220 --> 02:40:36,560
John C Dvorak: yes, which makes
no sense. Well, I guess it does

2714
02:40:36,560 --> 02:40:40,540
make sense. It also gold went up
and silver went to $31 which is

2715
02:40:40,540 --> 02:40:41,380
unbelievable, out

2716
02:40:41,380 --> 02:40:43,300
Adam Curry: of control. And

2717
02:40:45,640 --> 02:40:49,000
John C Dvorak: yeah, and the
market went up, whereas the

2718
02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:52,360
market went down to but America
went up and down. I talked about

2719
02:40:52,360 --> 02:40:54,100
that since you mentioned the
Fed, I do have a

2720
02:40:54,100 --> 02:40:56,860
Adam Curry: clip I was leading
into something else, but as long

2721
02:40:56,860 --> 02:40:59,680
as you bring me back to Bitcoin,
then I'll then it's okay, you

2722
02:40:59,680 --> 02:41:01,680
John C Dvorak: can go back to
Bitcoin real easy, because this

2723
02:41:01,680 --> 02:41:05,520
was a clip I got from a bunch of
commentary on the Fed and how

2724
02:41:05,520 --> 02:41:09,240
they did this and that. And this
was just some off the wall

2725
02:41:09,240 --> 02:41:13,200
comment research that sorry on
the rate cut

2726
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:16,020
Adam Curry: research, actually
from the sound money project,

2727
02:41:16,020 --> 02:41:18,900
has seen the Fed increased
discussion of things like

2728
02:41:18,900 --> 02:41:22,940
climate change and income
inequality over the past 10

2729
02:41:22,940 --> 02:41:26,060
years, which has shown that
mission creep is affecting the

2730
02:41:26,060 --> 02:41:28,580
Fed just as it's affecting every
other institution, and

2731
02:41:28,820 --> 02:41:31,880
regardless of how viewers feel
about those issues, the Fed has

2732
02:41:31,880 --> 02:41:35,480
no business doing that. The
Fed's main focus should be on

2733
02:41:35,480 --> 02:41:39,080
stable monetary policy, and the
only way to get politics out of

2734
02:41:39,080 --> 02:41:43,000
the Fed is to tie it down with a
constitutional monetary rule,

2735
02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:45,700
not the discretionary policy
that it has now,

2736
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:50,380
John C Dvorak: climate change.
Climate change, of course,

2737
02:41:52,900 --> 02:41:55,780
Adam Curry: well, I'm sure that
the white paper from Blackrock

2738
02:41:55,780 --> 02:42:00,240
helped Bitcoin by Blackrock
saying, hey, you know, in times

2739
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:04,320
of instability, Bitcoin is a
good place to put your money

2740
02:42:04,500 --> 02:42:09,600
that, I'm paraphrasing to
extreme. But maybe this little,

2741
02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:16,680
this little Gambit that
President Trump pulled might

2742
02:42:16,740 --> 02:42:19,320
might have helped this was kind
of funny.

2743
02:42:19,680 --> 02:42:22,880
Unknown: In the meantime, we're
keeping an eye on Donald Trump.

2744
02:42:22,880 --> 02:42:27,680
He is in a bar, I believe, in
downtown New York, called the

2745
02:42:27,680 --> 02:42:31,700
pub key in downtown Manhattan.
Maybe we can play up some sound

2746
02:42:31,700 --> 02:42:33,140
here, guys and see if he says
anything.

2747
02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:36,800
Fantastic. It went through all
right. We're done. Perfect.

2748
02:42:37,400 --> 02:42:38,840
First transaction

2749
02:42:38,960 --> 02:42:41,980
by a president on the Bitcoin
protocol.

2750
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:48,820
Adam Curry: He's at a burger
joint, and he just bought some

2751
02:42:48,820 --> 02:42:49,360
burgers.

2752
02:42:51,580 --> 02:42:52,480
Unknown: Hello, everybody.

2753
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:04,260
Yeah, crypto

2754
02:43:07,980 --> 02:43:12,660
Adam Curry: burger. This is a
crypto burger, okay? The only

2755
02:43:12,660 --> 02:43:16,080
pay with Bitcoin, yeah, pay with
Bitcoin for the crypto burger,

2756
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:20,180
which, of course, I like. I
think they're making a big

2757
02:43:20,180 --> 02:43:23,480
mistake, though, the the Trump
Organization, they came out with

2758
02:43:23,480 --> 02:43:30,620
the World Financial, some kind
of, like, token, uh, based on

2759
02:43:30,620 --> 02:43:35,720
Ethereum, and it's a, it's like
a lending protocol. I foresee

2760
02:43:35,720 --> 02:43:39,500
bad things in the future for
that. It's like, what are they

2761
02:43:39,500 --> 02:43:40,780
doing? Like,

2762
02:43:40,780 --> 02:43:44,620
John C Dvorak: Trump stakes,
yeah, exactly the University of

2763
02:43:44,620 --> 02:43:45,880
Trump. The kids got

2764
02:43:45,880 --> 02:43:48,460
Adam Curry: suckered into it.
Trump's like, oh, there's

2765
02:43:48,460 --> 02:43:51,580
crypto. Sounds good. I don't
think that's a very good idea.

2766
02:43:51,820 --> 02:43:53,440
But anyway, he's

2767
02:43:53,440 --> 02:43:55,660
John C Dvorak: just the non
stop.

2768
02:43:57,220 --> 02:43:59,680
Adam Curry: But go Bitcoin.
Thanks, Trump. Then we'll take

2769
02:43:59,740 --> 02:44:00,280
meanwhile,

2770
02:44:00,280 --> 02:44:03,480
John C Dvorak: talking about
Trump, there was an, I

2771
02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:07,020
personally think an energy
weapon was deployed. Yes, I

2772
02:44:07,020 --> 02:44:08,220
Adam Curry: heard about this.
Porter is

2773
02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:10,620
Unknown: a former President
Donald Trump, that were allowed

2774
02:44:10,620 --> 02:44:14,760
to sit behind his stage at his
Tucson rally last week tell the

2775
02:44:14,760 --> 02:44:18,420
news four Tucson investigators,
they left with mysterious

2776
02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:21,740
injuries to their eyes. News for
Tucson chief investigative

2777
02:44:21,740 --> 02:44:24,440
reporter, course, Nylander is
live outside the Tucson Music

2778
02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:26,960
Hall downtown. Course, what are
we learning about their

2779
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:28,520
situation? Monica,

2780
02:44:28,520 --> 02:44:31,460
this is where 1000s of people
came out to hear former

2781
02:44:31,460 --> 02:44:34,340
President Donald Trump speak.
Last week, there was a group of

2782
02:44:34,340 --> 02:44:38,360
48 people allowed to sit on
stage behind Trump throughout

2783
02:44:38,360 --> 02:44:41,380
the event, they were split into
two groups on each side of the

2784
02:44:41,380 --> 02:44:45,280
stage. One side seemed to walk
away without any issues, but

2785
02:44:45,280 --> 02:44:48,460
multiple people seated near each
other on the other side tell me

2786
02:44:48,460 --> 02:44:51,700
that they had to go to the
emergency room after they left

2787
02:44:51,700 --> 02:44:55,120
the event here tonight, for the
first time, the Trump campaign

2788
02:44:55,120 --> 02:44:58,300
is confirming that they're
investigating this situation.

2789
02:44:58,480 --> 02:44:58,600
Yeah,

2790
02:44:58,600 --> 02:45:00,600
Adam Curry: that was wild.
People. Uh, going to the

2791
02:45:00,600 --> 02:45:02,820
hospital, and the hospital
saying, Are you sure you didn't

2792
02:45:02,820 --> 02:45:05,760
get sprayed with some kind of
chemical? Yeah. And

2793
02:45:05,760 --> 02:45:08,220
John C Dvorak: one woman claims
she's now blind, at least

2794
02:45:08,460 --> 02:45:12,960
temporarily, yeah? And it sounds
like, and there's a bunch of

2795
02:45:12,960 --> 02:45:15,660
them, they're all on one side,
and they think that's we were

2796
02:45:15,900 --> 02:45:20,100
unusual, yeah, I'm gonna make
sure that get upset at word

2797
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:25,040
unusual. Yes, is that this,
these audiences were split in

2798
02:45:25,040 --> 02:45:27,800
two, instead of right behind
him, like normal, yeah, there

2799
02:45:28,520 --> 02:45:32,240
was this, this bifurcation of
the of the background, and I

2800
02:45:32,240 --> 02:45:36,200
don't understand it. There was
this whole thing was, you know,

2801
02:45:36,200 --> 02:45:40,960
it's unusual. It was a small
audience overall, yeah,

2802
02:45:42,220 --> 02:45:46,660
Adam Curry: well, speaking of
speaking of eye problems, this

2803
02:45:46,660 --> 02:45:47,380
happened

2804
02:45:47,740 --> 02:45:50,260
Unknown: this morning, new
details of the terrifying

2805
02:45:50,260 --> 02:45:54,820
moments 140 passengers faced
just minutes after takeoff on a

2806
02:45:54,820 --> 02:46:03,480
flight from Salt Lake City to
Portland on Sunday, we're Boeing

2807
02:46:03,480 --> 02:46:07,740
737, 900 forced to make an
emergency landing back in Salt

2808
02:46:07,740 --> 02:46:11,940
Lake. The problem Delta tells
NBC News, the aircraft was

2809
02:46:11,940 --> 02:46:15,840
unable to pressurize above
10,000 feet. One passenger

2810
02:46:15,840 --> 02:46:19,380
speaking out to our affiliate
KSL TV, it felt like somebody

2811
02:46:19,380 --> 02:46:22,160
was stabbing me in the ear.
Passengers say they knew

2812
02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:25,880
something was wrong, but the
oxygen masks did not deploy. The

2813
02:46:25,880 --> 02:46:28,640
plane would go higher, and then
it would drop down, and then it

2814
02:46:28,640 --> 02:46:31,100
would go higher, and it kind of
dropped down, and you could tell

2815
02:46:31,100 --> 02:46:34,880
something wasn't right, but they
weren't saying anything. Some

2816
02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:39,740
on board began bleeding from
their ears and noses Salt Lake

2817
02:46:39,860 --> 02:46:42,940
before making that emergency
landing with medical teams

2818
02:46:42,940 --> 02:46:46,420
treating 10 passengers on the
ground. In a statement to NBC

2819
02:46:46,420 --> 02:46:50,320
News, Delta says it sincerely
apologizes to its customers for

2820
02:46:50,320 --> 02:46:54,040
the experience adding the flight
crew followed procedures and

2821
02:46:54,040 --> 02:46:56,800
supported passengers with their
immediate needs. Tom

2822
02:46:56,800 --> 02:46:59,260
I feel like there's so many
safeguards on planes that

2823
02:46:59,260 --> 02:47:03,180
prevent them from taking off. So
how did this plane take off

2824
02:47:03,180 --> 02:47:04,260
without the cabin being

2825
02:47:04,260 --> 02:47:04,980
pressurized?

2826
02:47:05,460 --> 02:47:08,220
Well, by the way, this only
happens when half a dozen times

2827
02:47:08,220 --> 02:47:12,300
a year. It is very rare. Bottom
line, you can lose

2828
02:47:12,300 --> 02:47:15,600
pressurization if you've got a
bad seal around the window or

2829
02:47:15,600 --> 02:47:19,800
door or a valve, even valves in
the restrooms, for example, if

2830
02:47:19,800 --> 02:47:23,060
they're not properly closing up
that can create this kind of a

2831
02:47:23,060 --> 02:47:25,880
pressurization issue. We
mentioned 10,000 feet is the

2832
02:47:25,880 --> 02:47:28,880
magic number. Planes are
supposed to be pressurized to

2833
02:47:28,880 --> 02:47:32,480
8000 feet or below. You get
above 10,000 if you don't have

2834
02:47:32,480 --> 02:47:35,120
pressurization, people can start
feeling the effects pretty

2835
02:47:35,180 --> 02:47:35,540
quickly.

2836
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:38,000
Adam Curry: Now, what I was
missing from the report is

2837
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:43,180
Boeing. I mean, they mentioned
it was a 737 900 but this

2838
02:47:43,240 --> 02:47:47,440
doesn't, this seem like an
obvious aircraft issue, but yet

2839
02:47:47,440 --> 02:47:49,660
they don't mention that. Well,
they

2840
02:47:49,660 --> 02:47:52,660
John C Dvorak: did say it was a
730 Yeah, but, but they it was

2841
02:47:52,660 --> 02:47:55,120
so, you know, he's talking about
emphasize Boeing. Boeing,

2842
02:47:55,120 --> 02:47:56,020
Boeing, yeah, leaky

2843
02:47:56,020 --> 02:47:59,320
Adam Curry: doors, leaky
windows, even the toilet. You

2844
02:47:59,320 --> 02:48:02,280
know, can't we just say Hey? Is
that another door about to blow

2845
02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:06,000
off the Boeing? I don't know why
they didn't say, maybe

2846
02:48:06,000 --> 02:48:08,040
John C Dvorak: the word has
gotten out to stop.

2847
02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:12,060
Adam Curry: Well, it's going to
stop by itself, because, you

2848
02:48:12,060 --> 02:48:15,540
know, I think I got boots on the
ground from one of our producers

2849
02:48:15,540 --> 02:48:19,860
about the Boeing strike. Update
from work. Initially, our senior

2850
02:48:19,860 --> 02:48:22,700
managers arrogantly, didn't
believe the strike would last

2851
02:48:22,700 --> 02:48:26,480
beyond the weekend. On Friday
morning, they essentially told

2852
02:48:26,480 --> 02:48:28,760
the entire supply chain
management division it was

2853
02:48:28,760 --> 02:48:32,240
business as usual. However, by
the end of the day, they started

2854
02:48:32,240 --> 02:48:35,480
to consider what to do in case
the union continued striking for

2855
02:48:35,480 --> 02:48:39,140
an extended period, given the
tactics they want us to go with,

2856
02:48:39,140 --> 02:48:42,040
it's absurd to see how
unprepared our leadership is to

2857
02:48:42,040 --> 02:48:45,160
handle a crisis like this.
Apparently, during the 2008

2858
02:48:45,580 --> 02:48:48,100
strike, corporate employees who
had previously trained as

2859
02:48:48,100 --> 02:48:50,380
machinists returned to the
factory floor to continue

2860
02:48:50,380 --> 02:48:53,200
building planes. However, given
Boeing's recent blunders, I

2861
02:48:53,200 --> 02:48:55,960
doubt they'll want to entertain
that idea with the FAA. FAA

2862
02:48:55,960 --> 02:49:00,840
breathing down their neck. I
mean, this is so they weren't

2863
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:04,020
they didn't even think this
strike would last very long. Our

2864
02:49:04,020 --> 02:49:09,600
producer says he thinks it'll
last into the new year. Ooh,

2865
02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:14,580
yeah, there's, there's some you
can trade on them. Short Boeing,

2866
02:49:14,880 --> 02:49:21,200
not advice. Um, let me see what
else he says here. Yeah, they

2867
02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:24,680
don't plan to return until the
new year. From what I've heard

2868
02:49:24,680 --> 02:49:28,040
about the contract clauses.
Boeing has about 50 days after

2869
02:49:28,040 --> 02:49:31,040
the delivery date to submit the
plane before penalties start

2870
02:49:31,040 --> 02:49:34,700
kicking in. There are also
strike clauses for protection.

2871
02:49:34,700 --> 02:49:37,460
Now he's going to reconfirm
that. And we have the best

2872
02:49:37,460 --> 02:49:40,300
producers, man, we have
producers everywhere. You can't

2873
02:49:40,300 --> 02:49:42,940
escape. Can't escape. No agenda,
nation,

2874
02:49:46,120 --> 02:49:48,160
John C Dvorak: um, let's talk to
him. I have a note from someone

2875
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:52,780
that should be looked at. This
is a kind of interesting I

2876
02:49:52,780 --> 02:49:57,580
thought this is from our
producer, W I work at the hub in

2877
02:49:57,580 --> 02:50:01,740
Memphis. He works at FedEx.
Yeah. Yeah, it's what's called a

2878
02:50:01,740 --> 02:50:04,500
material handler, which is means
I drive a cargo thing, or,

2879
02:50:04,500 --> 02:50:10,920
anyway, says, he says that
they're, they lost their

2880
02:50:10,920 --> 02:50:14,100
contract with United Postal
Service, and they're going to

2881
02:50:14,100 --> 02:50:17,100
go, they're going to have
issues. And so they're starting

2882
02:50:17,100 --> 02:50:19,800
to treat their employees like
crap, uh oh,

2883
02:50:21,060 --> 02:50:21,800
Unknown: and

2884
02:50:24,380 --> 02:50:26,960
John C Dvorak: and the work. And
he discusses the workforce,

2885
02:50:26,960 --> 02:50:33,020
which is 50% black, 30% white
and 20% Hispanic, and he says

2886
02:50:33,020 --> 02:50:36,980
that everyone gets along just
fine, but there's their issues

2887
02:50:36,980 --> 02:50:37,460
ahead.

2888
02:50:38,660 --> 02:50:41,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, if you I
didn't know they lost the USPS,

2889
02:50:41,740 --> 02:50:43,060
uh, contract,

2890
02:50:43,720 --> 02:50:45,220
Unknown: I guess so. Man.

2891
02:50:45,940 --> 02:50:48,040
Adam Curry: I mean, what's going
on with Tupperware filed for

2892
02:50:48,040 --> 02:50:49,900
bankruptcy? I mean, the world is
ending.

2893
02:50:54,700 --> 02:50:57,100
John C Dvorak: Then I have a
bunch of bunch of weird stuff

2894
02:50:57,100 --> 02:50:57,700
going on with

2895
02:50:57,700 --> 02:51:01,020
Adam Curry: these. There it is,
1010, Oh, I gotcha. I got you. I

2896
02:51:01,020 --> 02:51:05,100
got you. 1010. All right, I got
one final clip before we take a

2897
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:11,580
break here. One final clip
because finally, finally, we

2898
02:51:11,580 --> 02:51:13,560
have a group that's doing some
good.

2899
02:51:13,680 --> 02:51:16,980
Unknown: The first ever national
urban rat summit kicked off in

2900
02:51:16,980 --> 02:51:19,860
New York City today. The summit
is bringing together a range of

2901
02:51:19,860 --> 02:51:23,060
experts like researchers and
academic institutions and

2902
02:51:23,060 --> 02:51:27,200
municipal pest control managers,
the groups are collaborating on

2903
02:51:27,200 --> 02:51:31,220
ideas for best practices, on
rodent mitigation, advancing

2904
02:51:31,580 --> 02:51:34,640
science. Of it all, rat
sightings are down in New York

2905
02:51:34,640 --> 02:51:37,880
after businesses switch to use
covered containers for trash

2906
02:51:37,880 --> 02:51:40,960
instead of just putting out
plastic bags. But Mayor Adams

2907
02:51:40,960 --> 02:51:43,300
says that he would like to see
more progress in the fight

2908
02:51:43,300 --> 02:51:46,420
against rats. He says it's a
quality of life issue.

2909
02:51:46,780 --> 02:51:49,480
Could only imagine, you know,
lifting up your toilet seat in

2910
02:51:49,480 --> 02:51:54,880
the morning and seeing a road
come out your garbage bag. You

2911
02:51:54,940 --> 02:51:59,620
take the garbage you put
outside, and you see a rat run

2912
02:51:59,620 --> 02:52:03,000
across your feet. You think
about that all day. The

2913
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:06,360
Summit continues tomorrow. It
comes as New York City continues

2914
02:52:06,360 --> 02:52:10,440
to focus on identifying rat hot
spots and removing conditions

2915
02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:11,280
that allow them

2916
02:52:11,460 --> 02:52:12,720
to thrive. I'm

2917
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:15,840
Adam Curry: glad they have a rat
summit going on that tells you

2918
02:52:15,840 --> 02:52:19,440
about the state of America,
doesn't it? It's so bad, we need

2919
02:52:19,440 --> 02:52:20,420
a rat summit

2920
02:52:21,380 --> 02:52:25,040
Unknown: there's rats in New
York, yeah,

2921
02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:28,640
Adam Curry: but this was from
all over the country, yeah,

2922
02:52:28,700 --> 02:52:31,100
John C Dvorak: I guess those
rats. Rats are a problem. I'm

2923
02:52:31,880 --> 02:52:34,580
Unknown: gonna show my salad by
donating to no agenda.

2924
02:52:34,700 --> 02:52:37,580
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be

2925
02:52:37,580 --> 02:52:40,120
fab. On,

2926
02:52:45,040 --> 02:52:47,380
Adam Curry: and we'd like to
thank our producers once again,

2927
02:52:47,380 --> 02:52:50,740
who supported us today, those
who made it through whatever

2928
02:52:50,740 --> 02:52:54,700
firewall we're dealing with. We
appreciate you very much. Under

2929
02:52:54,700 --> 02:52:57,880
$50 we never mentioned for
reasons of anonymity, and those

2930
02:52:57,880 --> 02:53:02,100
are the sustaining donations,
which you don't get credit per

2931
02:53:02,100 --> 02:53:05,040
se on the show, but you should
have a good feeling that you are

2932
02:53:05,040 --> 02:53:08,340
helping the show out. You can do
a sustaining donation by go by

2933
02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:12,240
going to no agenda donations.com
you enter the amount you want,

2934
02:53:12,240 --> 02:53:15,000
the frequency you want, per
show, per week, per month, per

2935
02:53:15,000 --> 02:53:18,420
year. Whatever you want to do,
just send value back to the show

2936
02:53:18,480 --> 02:53:21,560
in an equal amount, the value
that you receive from it. John

2937
02:53:21,560 --> 02:53:23,300
will take us through to the 50s
right now. Yeah,

2938
02:53:23,300 --> 02:53:24,920
John C Dvorak: we're starting
with Nathan Cochran and

2939
02:53:24,920 --> 02:53:28,940
Franklin, Tennessee, okay, from
Mercy Me, our boy. Nathan, yeah,

2940
02:53:28,940 --> 02:53:34,460
Mercy Me. Guy, yeah. We have, we
have musicians. We do that.

2941
02:53:34,460 --> 02:53:35,060
Listen to the

2942
02:53:35,060 --> 02:53:38,060
Adam Curry: show. They
understand the value for value

2943
02:53:38,060 --> 02:53:40,900
concept, because they all
started off value for value, one

2944
02:53:40,900 --> 02:53:42,400
way or the other. 12345,

2945
02:53:43,720 --> 02:53:45,700
John C Dvorak: thank you.
Nathan, which is a favorite

2946
02:53:45,760 --> 02:53:50,260
donation of mine anyway, Keith
Stevens in South Bend, Indiana,

2947
02:53:50,260 --> 02:53:56,800
12121, um, he says, Don't send
your blankets and water. Just

2948
02:53:56,800 --> 02:54:03,960
send your cats. Okay, all right,
they're eating the dogs. Sheila

2949
02:54:03,960 --> 02:54:06,720
Ryan in Paris, France, we got a

2950
02:54:07,140 --> 02:54:10,320
Adam Curry: Parisian lady. Ah,
Sheila in Paris. Hello, Sheila.

2951
02:54:10,320 --> 02:54:10,560
Uh.

2952
02:54:13,740 --> 02:54:16,620
John C Dvorak: She says, Uh,
thank you for all the pleasure

2953
02:54:16,620 --> 02:54:22,160
and laughs. Both bring in
regards from pari Yes, merci.

2954
02:54:22,160 --> 02:54:27,860
Mark Stokes, bury in Centennial,
Colorado, 8438 This is a

2955
02:54:27,860 --> 02:54:31,520
knighting, I think. And so you
can read this as we read these

2956
02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:33,080
Knight notes. Yes, ITM

2957
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:36,020
Adam Curry: heroes. Today, I'm
writing to claim my knighthood

2958
02:54:36,260 --> 02:54:39,740
with a boobs donation of 808,
plus an additional amount to

2959
02:54:39,740 --> 02:54:42,280
cover transaction fees. We
appreciate it. I could have

2960
02:54:42,280 --> 02:54:45,640
claimed my knighthood on 615 of
this year, the last time I

2961
02:54:45,640 --> 02:54:49,600
donated. But apparently I cannot
add and I'm not smart, that's

2962
02:54:49,600 --> 02:54:53,560
night material, right there. I'm
still in Colorado, the gayest

2963
02:54:53,560 --> 02:54:57,040
state, east of John Dvorak, but
will soon be moving to the

2964
02:54:57,040 --> 02:55:01,080
fatter, less though less gay
pencil tucky. For this reason,

2965
02:55:02,160 --> 02:55:06,000
I'd like to be, hey, we have gay
listeners. Easy bro. For this

2966
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:09,540
reason, I'd like to be knighted,
sir. No skid mark of the pencil.

2967
02:55:09,540 --> 02:55:12,840
Tucky lowlands, all right, at
the round table, I would like

2968
02:55:12,840 --> 02:55:18,420
anthrax lines, obviously, and
Aardvark blessing, blessings to

2969
02:55:18,420 --> 02:55:21,980
Adam the believer and John the
heathen. I love my truck and I

2970
02:55:21,980 --> 02:55:25,100
love what I do. Says Mark
stokesbury from Centennial,

2971
02:55:25,100 --> 02:55:26,660
Colorado, I

2972
02:55:27,080 --> 02:55:30,620
John C Dvorak: love my truck and
I love what I do. Kevin

2973
02:55:30,620 --> 02:55:34,460
McLaughlin's coming up from
Concord, North Carolina, and he

2974
02:55:34,820 --> 02:55:39,440
is keeping up the pace with his
808 boob donation. He is the

2975
02:55:39,440 --> 02:55:44,080
Archduke of Luna. He's the lover
of American boobs. He is Timothy

2976
02:55:44,080 --> 02:55:50,380
White in Elburn, Illinois, 6969
he wants to stop the hammering.

2977
02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:54,940
Eventually you'll play that, I
think the Sir Chris Abraham,

2978
02:55:55,120 --> 02:56:04,860
Abraham in Arlington, Virginia,
6707 not a spooky claims. Uh,

2979
02:56:04,860 --> 02:56:11,280
sir. Kevin O'Brien in Chicago,
606, small booze. Brian Brad

2980
02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:18,600
Brinkley, or Binkley. Binkley in
Snellville, Georgia, he is a

2981
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:19,620
deduction. Yeah. He's

2982
02:56:19,620 --> 02:56:21,080
Adam Curry: of the propaganda
report

2983
02:56:22,760 --> 02:56:24,620
Unknown: you've been deduced.

2984
02:56:25,640 --> 02:56:28,580
John C Dvorak: Is that a
podcast? I think so. Oh, we

2985
02:56:28,580 --> 02:56:32,900
should listen to it. Dame
Denise, Queen of the cobalt

2986
02:56:33,140 --> 02:56:35,600
cobalt.

2987
02:56:36,500 --> 02:56:37,580
Adam Curry: I remember her.

2988
02:56:38,360 --> 02:56:40,660
John C Dvorak: There used to be
a device called the cobalt. You

2989
02:56:40,660 --> 02:56:41,920
had one? Yes,

2990
02:56:41,920 --> 02:56:44,920
Adam Curry: the cobalt cube. I
still have it. I still am

2991
02:56:44,920 --> 02:56:48,040
possess and collectible. I
should fire that thing up.

2992
02:56:48,220 --> 02:56:49,060
Unknown: See, oh, yeah,

2993
02:56:49,120 --> 02:56:50,440
Adam Curry: I bet it works. It's

2994
02:56:50,680 --> 02:56:54,280
John C Dvorak: maybe use it as
firewall. Danny, she's in damned

2995
02:56:54,280 --> 02:56:59,200
in Ohio, uh, 16 who has a
birthday call out for Emma and

2996
02:56:59,200 --> 02:57:01,560
Adam Curry: also wishes her
smoking hot husband, Fred, a

2997
02:57:01,560 --> 02:57:03,720
happy 24th anniversary. Oh, a

2998
02:57:03,720 --> 02:57:08,340
John C Dvorak: couple baronetta,
salty ketchup in Manchester, New

2999
02:57:08,340 --> 02:57:15,540
Hampshire. Um, 5555 lets us know
that EXO semiconductor sales are

3000
02:57:15,540 --> 02:57:20,300
in the toilet. That's always
good to know. James Edmondson in

3001
02:57:20,300 --> 02:57:24,320
South Plainfield, New Jersey,
5110 Dean Roker also 5110

3002
02:57:25,880 --> 02:57:33,500
Michael Van der horn, 55 with
the these health karma for sure.

3003
02:57:33,500 --> 02:57:35,300
Andre actually put that, yeah,

3004
02:57:35,300 --> 02:57:37,460
Adam Curry: let me read this,
because this came in from

3005
02:57:37,460 --> 02:57:40,540
several people who sent messages
to me, Sir Andre Knight of the

3006
02:57:40,540 --> 02:57:44,560
empty paypal account currently
night with the broken brain

3007
02:57:44,620 --> 02:57:48,160
Natalia writing on behalf of Sir
Andre to kindly request some

3008
02:57:48,160 --> 02:57:50,920
health karma, since he's not
capable of doing so himself, he

3009
02:57:50,920 --> 02:57:55,900
suffered a cerebral infarction,
and his left side is paralyzed.

3010
02:57:55,900 --> 02:57:59,080
The recovery, if possible, will
take many months, and he lives

3011
02:57:59,140 --> 02:58:02,940
day by day. Sir Andre hopes that
the requested health karma could

3012
02:58:02,940 --> 02:58:05,220
be given to him without a
donation from his part, while

3013
02:58:05,220 --> 02:58:08,640
people donated for him, as this
is currently not possible.

3014
02:58:08,700 --> 02:58:11,700
Operating his phone is very
difficult, and apparently when

3015
02:58:12,480 --> 02:58:15,240
he was knighted, he was omitted
or forgot to ask what he would

3016
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:18,180
like to have at the round table.
So he feels some health karma

3017
02:58:18,420 --> 02:58:21,200
could be granted to him to make
up, you didn't have to do any of

3018
02:58:21,200 --> 02:58:24,260
that. We do that we we give
karma, certainly to anyone who

3019
02:58:24,260 --> 02:58:29,780
needs emergency medical karma.
So sir, Andre, you are loved by

3020
02:58:29,780 --> 02:58:33,080
many, and we have I'm gonna
throw in a goat, and I'm praying

3021
02:58:33,080 --> 02:58:34,100
for you as well, brother,

3022
02:58:34,400 --> 02:58:37,340
Unknown: you've got karma.

3023
02:58:38,840 --> 02:58:41,920
John C Dvorak: Well, insofar as
throwing some karma out. I would

3024
02:58:41,920 --> 02:58:48,700
request some for Mimi. Uh oh,
she has shingles again. No,

3025
02:58:48,700 --> 02:58:49,780
she's only had him once

3026
02:58:50,380 --> 02:58:52,240
Adam Curry: again. I thought she
already had it once.

3027
02:58:52,480 --> 02:58:53,920
Unknown: No, not that I know of

3028
02:58:54,940 --> 02:58:57,220
Adam Curry: that's horrible.
Yeah, she's

3029
02:58:57,340 --> 02:58:58,600
John C Dvorak: complains a lot.

3030
02:59:01,840 --> 02:59:03,600
Unknown: You thought card

3031
02:59:05,220 --> 02:59:09,180
Adam Curry: complains a lot from
your loving husband, John, stop

3032
02:59:09,180 --> 02:59:13,020
complaining about your shingles.
That's horrible. That's

3033
02:59:13,020 --> 02:59:13,800
horrible.

3034
02:59:14,040 --> 02:59:16,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
likely she doesn't have the one

3035
02:59:16,380 --> 02:59:20,700
on her head, no, but I don't
want to know where it is that's

3036
02:59:20,700 --> 02:59:25,280
everywhere else, goodness. James
Moore in San Pablo, California,

3037
02:59:25,880 --> 02:59:31,520
5445 he does have a note. He
says, great podcast. Thanks. Sir

3038
02:59:31,520 --> 02:59:39,800
loin In Winter Haven, Florida,
5430 Matthew boi there were

3039
02:59:40,760 --> 02:59:47,140
there in Edmonton, Alberta. 5272
is switcheroo to D douche,

3040
02:59:47,140 --> 02:59:49,180
birthday boy, Timothy, sailor,

3041
02:59:50,860 --> 02:59:52,660
Unknown: you've been deduced.

3042
02:59:54,520 --> 02:59:59,800
John C Dvorak: Shannon in Citra,
Florida, 5272 Aaron. Aaron.

3043
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,720
Aaron, anonymous, cop, Oh,
that's good. Jay got that. Yep,

3044
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:08,340
got it. Got it. Uh, he's in
Redwood City. He's down in the

3045
03:00:08,340 --> 03:00:15,720
peninsula. 5150 also a fellow
ham Darcy Midland in Midland.

3046
03:00:15,720 --> 03:00:20,280
Darcy in Midland, Michigan. 51
is the switcheroo. Call out for

3047
03:00:20,280 --> 03:00:22,280
Keith Johnson's got a birthday
coming up.

3048
03:00:22,280 --> 03:00:24,920
Adam Curry: He's sir Beavis of
the Saginaw Valley. It's from

3049
03:00:24,920 --> 03:00:28,700
his smoking hot wife, Darcy Yes.
Lisa mikalski,

3050
03:00:28,940 --> 03:00:33,620
John C Dvorak: 5033 and she
wants some house selling Carmen.

3051
03:00:33,620 --> 03:00:37,040
We'll put that at the end. And
now we got the $50 donors. Scott

3052
03:00:37,040 --> 03:00:40,280
lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
Luke Olson in Alexandria,

3053
03:00:40,280 --> 03:00:46,540
Virginia. Andrew Alexander in
Fredericksburg, Texas. Hello.

3054
03:00:48,580 --> 03:00:51,220
Just on the street from you.
Yeah, I guess. Corey Bennett in

3055
03:00:51,220 --> 03:00:55,240
Denver, Colorado. Andrew gusik
in Greensboro, North Carolina.

3056
03:00:55,420 --> 03:01:02,700
Michael Golob in Glen, Burnie,
Maryland. And last on our list,

3057
03:01:02,700 --> 03:01:08,040
a short list, I might add a very
short list, Alan being the Baron

3058
03:01:08,040 --> 03:01:10,620
Allen being in Beaverton,
Oregon. Want to thank these

3059
03:01:10,620 --> 03:01:15,540
people for making shows 1696,
closer to 1700 Yes,

3060
03:01:15,540 --> 03:01:18,300
Adam Curry: and of course, 1700s
coming up and our 17th

3061
03:01:18,300 --> 03:01:20,960
anniversary. Thank you all for
supporting the best podcast in

3062
03:01:20,960 --> 03:01:24,020
the universe. You are the best
producers in the universe. And

3063
03:01:24,020 --> 03:01:27,800
the karma for those who need it
is here. You've got karma.

3064
03:01:27,800 --> 03:01:29,900
Remember us at no agenda,
donations.com

3065
03:01:37,100 --> 03:01:40,360
Here they are in a row. Dame
Denise, wishes. Beth Cox, a

3066
03:01:40,360 --> 03:01:44,140
happy one celebrated on
September 8. Also wishes her

3067
03:01:44,140 --> 03:01:47,800
grandfather, granddaughter, I'm
sorry, Emma Bradley, a very

3068
03:01:47,800 --> 03:01:51,520
happy birthday. She turned 13 on
the 16th. Darcy, happy birthday

3069
03:01:51,520 --> 03:01:55,720
to her husband, Keith. He turns
51 today. And Matthew boibert

3070
03:01:55,720 --> 03:01:59,740
says Happy Birthday to Timothy
Saylor. And we, of course, say

3071
03:01:59,740 --> 03:02:02,520
happy birthday from everybody
here at the best podcast in the

3072
03:02:02,520 --> 03:02:10,020
universe. We have a had one
nighting note. We have a layaway

3073
03:02:10,020 --> 03:02:14,760
night Jared. He says, Man, how
time flies. I donated 203 14 on

3074
03:02:14,760 --> 03:02:19,440
March 17, 2019, just a little
too late for the pie episode.

3075
03:02:19,440 --> 03:02:23,300
Hence the 314 then I began
paying from PayPal under two

3076
03:02:23,300 --> 03:02:26,600
accounts. One is titled Jared. I
don't know if he wants this

3077
03:02:26,660 --> 03:02:30,800
mention. The other is ot fam
photography. I've has a whole

3078
03:02:30,800 --> 03:02:33,260
accounting here, so I guess we
figured out. Put it all

3079
03:02:33,260 --> 03:02:37,040
together, his total is well
enough for a knighthood. He

3080
03:02:37,040 --> 03:02:41,860
would like to be the Duke of
Tatanka bison run into the storm

3081
03:02:41,860 --> 03:02:45,280
to get to the other side. And
that's what I need to do. In the

3082
03:02:45,280 --> 03:02:48,460
years since I was an associate,
my 25 year marriage ended in my

3083
03:02:48,460 --> 03:02:52,360
house burned down, it's time to
get to the other side. Damn

3084
03:02:52,360 --> 03:03:00,280
cancer. He says, Well, I'm gonna
give you an F cancer. You've got

3085
03:03:00,460 --> 03:03:04,080
karma, and we'd like to welcome
you, Jared, along with Mark

3086
03:03:04,080 --> 03:03:07,200
stokesberry, if you can get out
your blade, John, we'll Knight

3087
03:03:07,200 --> 03:03:10,080
these two gentlemen properly.
Ah, here

3088
03:03:10,080 --> 03:03:11,100
Unknown: you go. Oh,

3089
03:03:11,220 --> 03:03:16,740
Adam Curry: oh, wow, a long one.
So Mark stokesbury, Jared, hop

3090
03:03:16,740 --> 03:03:19,380
up from the podium. Both of you
today have supported the no

3091
03:03:19,380 --> 03:03:21,800
agenda show, and the amount that
is enough to become a knight.

3092
03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:26,420
It's over $1,000 I am very proud
to pronounce the K the as Sir No

3093
03:03:26,420 --> 03:03:31,040
skid mark of the pencil Turkey
lowlands and Sir Duke of Tatanka

3094
03:03:31,160 --> 03:03:34,580
for you. We've got hookers and
blow, rent poison, Chardonnay by

3095
03:03:34,580 --> 03:03:38,540
request, anthrax and Aardvark
also here at the round table,

3096
03:03:38,540 --> 03:03:41,740
redheads and rise. We've got
beer and blunts. We got cowgirls

3097
03:03:41,740 --> 03:03:44,800
and coffin varnish, always a
favorite, Rubens, wound and rose

3098
03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:47,560
a geishas and sake, vodka,
vanilla, bong, it's in bourbon,

3099
03:03:47,560 --> 03:03:50,680
sparkling cider, Nestor gingreal
and gerbils, breast milk and

3100
03:03:50,680 --> 03:03:54,220
pablum and, of course, the
mutton and the mead. Here at the

3101
03:03:54,220 --> 03:03:58,720
round table for you, please head
over to noagenderrings.com check

3102
03:03:58,720 --> 03:04:01,020
out the beautiful ring for the
Knights. They also work for the

3103
03:04:01,020 --> 03:04:04,500
dames, the signet ring so you
can imprint that on someone's

3104
03:04:05,640 --> 03:04:08,400
mouth if you hit them in the
mouth, or you can just use it to

3105
03:04:08,400 --> 03:04:10,680
seal your important
correspondence. We provide some

3106
03:04:10,680 --> 03:04:14,040
wax, a variety a variety of
colors for you to do that. We

3107
03:04:14,040 --> 03:04:16,260
love getting those in the PO
Box, and of course, it always

3108
03:04:16,260 --> 03:04:18,660
comes accompanied by a
certificate of authenticity.

3109
03:04:18,900 --> 03:04:21,680
Thank you both for your support.
Thank you for the value sent

3110
03:04:21,680 --> 03:04:24,980
back to no agenda and welcome to
the roundtable. Our brand new

3111
03:04:24,980 --> 03:04:25,580
knights.

3112
03:04:34,400 --> 03:04:38,540
No agenda meetups, part of the
value for value system. These

3113
03:04:38,540 --> 03:04:41,260
are producer organized. We have
no agenda, meetups.com.

3114
03:04:41,740 --> 03:04:45,280
Producer, run website, I should
say, Sir, Daniel does that. And

3115
03:04:45,280 --> 03:04:48,580
you can go there, check out, and
you can search by location, by

3116
03:04:48,580 --> 03:04:52,240
date. You can see what's going
on, where it's going on. There's

3117
03:04:52,240 --> 03:04:55,600
a lot of these happening all
around the world. The North

3118
03:04:55,600 --> 03:04:59,140
Florida Meetup is now competing
with the indie meetup for the

3119
03:04:59,140 --> 03:05:03,120
amount of P. People who show up.
And since we only have one

3120
03:05:03,120 --> 03:05:06,600
report today, I let them slide
and let them do the long promo

3121
03:05:06,600 --> 03:05:07,260
at the end

3122
03:05:07,260 --> 03:05:10,020
Unknown: in the morning. This is
Brian, the North Florida seafood

3123
03:05:10,020 --> 03:05:13,320
and sangria. Beat up. The people
of Florida are starved for no

3124
03:05:13,320 --> 03:05:16,380
agenda beat ups. It's growing
exponential. This is Melissa.

3125
03:05:16,500 --> 03:05:20,960
No agenda, 2024 This is Jorge.
Thank you for your courage. This

3126
03:05:20,960 --> 03:05:23,840
is Leslie, and we're still
trying to figure out who had the

3127
03:05:23,840 --> 03:05:25,160
Sangria. I think

3128
03:05:25,160 --> 03:05:27,620
we spot the spook, but it might
be the same spook from last

3129
03:05:27,620 --> 03:05:30,500
time. We'll have to see in the
morning, this is Rodney, my

3130
03:05:30,500 --> 03:05:31,760
first meet up. Beautiful,

3131
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:34,580
beautiful people love this
crowd. In the morning, I'm Bill,

3132
03:05:34,580 --> 03:05:37,700
have a great day. Sis. Austin.
In the morning, I came for some

3133
03:05:37,700 --> 03:05:40,300
strength through joy, and I
found it. This is grumpy green

3134
03:05:40,300 --> 03:05:43,300
guy in the morning. This is
Chrissy in the morning. IPM, sir

3135
03:05:43,300 --> 03:05:47,140
Island dog here. This is my
sixth meetup. Great people at

3136
03:05:47,140 --> 03:05:47,620
all of

3137
03:05:47,620 --> 03:05:50,260
them. Dame Janet here, thanks
for the tip. I've

3138
03:05:50,260 --> 03:05:53,560
got four cases of Bordeaux in
the car down here in St

3139
03:05:53,560 --> 03:05:56,980
Augustine, and today I got the
whole load in the morning. First

3140
03:05:56,980 --> 03:05:59,320
Florida meetup. John C for
president, 2020,

3141
03:06:01,360 --> 03:06:04,740
this is senesta, my first, but
not last meetup. We'll be

3142
03:06:04,740 --> 03:06:08,400
hosting sometime soon and in the
morning. Hey fellas, thank

3143
03:06:08,400 --> 03:06:09,300
Adam Curry: you for your
courage. It's

3144
03:06:09,300 --> 03:06:10,260
Unknown: their values, Grace.

3145
03:06:10,260 --> 03:06:10,800
Dub, it's

3146
03:06:10,800 --> 03:06:12,120
a wikis. Chickies, push

3147
03:06:12,120 --> 03:06:13,860
back. Stay free, love God,

3148
03:06:13,920 --> 03:06:17,460
let's go. This is Nate from St
Augustine, great. Meet up today.

3149
03:06:17,760 --> 03:06:21,560
ICM, hey. This is Mary. I just
came for the beer in the

3150
03:06:21,560 --> 03:06:25,580
morning. John Adam, Chris, again
and I have not escaped the name

3151
03:06:25,580 --> 03:06:26,240
of spook.

3152
03:06:26,300 --> 03:06:29,600
Thanks, John Adam, for all you
do, R, E, s, p, i, c, t, this D,

3153
03:06:29,600 --> 03:06:32,120
from the crest city to the first
50.

3154
03:06:32,120 --> 03:06:33,020
Joe Biden,

3155
03:06:35,240 --> 03:06:38,360
if you're ready to join the
Florida producers of no agenda

3156
03:06:38,360 --> 03:06:41,680
nation, make sure you go check
out all of our amazing upcoming

3157
03:06:41,680 --> 03:06:46,120
meetups at no agenda meetups.com
Next up, we have our central

3158
03:06:46,120 --> 03:06:49,300
Florida Second Amendment Sunday
meetup that's happening in

3159
03:06:49,300 --> 03:06:53,140
October. Then in November, we
have our November to remember

3160
03:06:53,140 --> 03:06:56,920
meetup that's our Gainesville
Ocala glass bottom boat tour

3161
03:06:56,920 --> 03:07:00,720
meetup. And in December, we will
be down in West Palm Beach,

3162
03:07:00,720 --> 03:07:04,140
Florida for a game of axes. Meet
Up, where we will be throwing

3163
03:07:04,140 --> 03:07:08,520
axes and knives. And then in
January, we will be down in

3164
03:07:08,520 --> 03:07:12,600
Miami. Meet me down in Miami.
It's like a party,

3165
03:07:13,260 --> 03:07:16,320
Adam Curry: man. They do fun
little activities, glass bottom

3166
03:07:16,320 --> 03:07:19,200
boat tour, AX and knife
throwing. Hey, you never know

3167
03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:21,980
what's gonna happen in a no
agenda. Meet up, and you could

3168
03:07:21,980 --> 03:07:25,040
check one out yourself if you're
in Arizona, four o'clock canyons

3169
03:07:25,040 --> 03:07:28,400
crown in Tucson. The second,
that's the two hot Tucson

3170
03:07:28,400 --> 03:07:32,300
meetup. The second September
meetup, 630 this evening at

3171
03:07:32,300 --> 03:07:35,360
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado, Charlotte's thirsty.

3172
03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:38,480
Third Thursday monthly meetup,
seven o'clock tonight, as

3173
03:07:38,480 --> 03:07:41,560
always, at edge Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina. Then

3174
03:07:41,560 --> 03:07:45,700
on Saturday, the DFW mid cities,
meet up 1130 in the morning at

3175
03:07:45,700 --> 03:07:48,160
the Bourbon Street Bar and
Grill. Never too early for some

3176
03:07:48,220 --> 03:07:51,280
for some bourbon. Sir. Nerd
works is hosting that that's in

3177
03:07:51,280 --> 03:07:54,700
Bedford, Texas, the Florida west
coast, meet up two o'clock.

3178
03:07:54,700 --> 03:07:59,260
Three daughters brewing in St
Pete, Florida, the insane Diego.

3179
03:07:59,260 --> 03:08:03,900
Third Saturday meetup, 3:30pm of
course, roundtable pizza in

3180
03:08:03,900 --> 03:08:08,760
Rancho Bernardo, San Diego,
California, the fight flight of

3181
03:08:08,760 --> 03:08:12,120
the no agenda. That's number 56
that is Leo Bravo. That's Long

3182
03:08:12,120 --> 03:08:15,840
Beach, California. It'll be held
at Steelcraft, the Low Country

3183
03:08:15,840 --> 03:08:20,840
meetup, four o'clock at throw
brewing Creek, South Carolina,

3184
03:08:22,040 --> 03:08:26,600
in throw brewing is what the
venue is. Then on Sunday, the

3185
03:08:26,600 --> 03:08:29,960
too many eggs.com meet up in
Keene, New Hampshire. It's the

3186
03:08:29,960 --> 03:08:33,380
sixth time they're doing it.
Margaritas, Keene and Keene New

3187
03:08:33,380 --> 03:08:36,980
Hampshire. Many more meetups to
come, including the 28th until

3188
03:08:36,980 --> 03:08:39,860
birth, the Netherlands, which is
an interesting place. I'd like

3189
03:08:39,860 --> 03:08:43,780
to hear a meet up from there,
Bastrop, Texas, Ocala, Florida.

3190
03:08:43,780 --> 03:08:47,200
And of course, we have the big
Fredericksburg hoot nanny

3191
03:08:47,200 --> 03:08:50,260
happening on October 18, right
here in the hill country, the

3192
03:08:50,260 --> 03:08:53,380
heart of the Texas Hill Country.
Fredericksburg curry and the

3193
03:08:53,380 --> 03:08:55,600
keeper will be there. We're
looking forward to everybody

3194
03:08:55,600 --> 03:08:58,780
joining us. Go to no agenda
meetups.com. To find out where

3195
03:08:58,780 --> 03:09:01,380
there is a meetup scheduled near
you. If you can't find one,

3196
03:09:01,380 --> 03:09:06,000
start one yourself. It's easy
and guarantee a party. It's

3197
03:09:08,220 --> 03:09:09,900
Unknown: like a

3198
03:09:20,060 --> 03:09:20,480
me, it's

3199
03:09:22,640 --> 03:09:28,100
Adam Curry: like a party. I'm
looking over your list. Is this

3200
03:09:28,100 --> 03:09:31,220
the second week in a row you do
not have an end of show? ISO,

3201
03:09:31,760 --> 03:09:35,300
John C Dvorak: no, where's the
second show in a row? Um,

3202
03:09:35,360 --> 03:09:38,720
Adam Curry: okay, what's up with
that? I

3203
03:09:38,720 --> 03:09:41,140
John C Dvorak: just forgot. I
just, for some reason I've lost

3204
03:09:41,140 --> 03:09:44,920
my train of thought when it came
to the getting a good ISO. I'm

3205
03:09:44,920 --> 03:09:47,260
always on the lookout for him,
but I didn't have buying any

3206
03:09:47,260 --> 03:09:47,620
Well, I

3207
03:09:47,620 --> 03:09:51,400
Adam Curry: mean, I had, I hope
one of my two ISOs suffices. We

3208
03:09:51,400 --> 03:09:56,260
always like, No, I'm listening.
Well, here I go. That

3209
03:09:56,260 --> 03:09:57,640
Unknown: was some weird shit.

3210
03:09:57,820 --> 03:09:59,860
Adam Curry: There's that one
that's.

3211
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:00,060
John C Dvorak: A

3212
03:10:00,060 --> 03:10:03,360
Adam Curry: faint it is, but
it's Hillary, and she says the W

3213
03:10:03,360 --> 03:10:07,380
word, she said that, yes, it's
in her book. Want to hear it

3214
03:10:07,380 --> 03:10:07,860
again? That

3215
03:10:07,860 --> 03:10:10,260
Unknown: was some weird shit.
Yeah.

3216
03:10:11,820 --> 03:10:12,600
Okay, next, oh,

3217
03:10:12,660 --> 03:10:14,220
Adam Curry: this is the only
other one I have

3218
03:10:14,220 --> 03:10:15,360
Unknown: really shocking,

3219
03:10:17,100 --> 03:10:19,380
Adam Curry: that neither,
neither one is great.

3220
03:10:19,800 --> 03:10:23,720
John C Dvorak: Well, the weird
one is okay, I didn't say that

3221
03:10:23,720 --> 03:10:24,560
word no, no

3222
03:10:25,940 --> 03:10:28,760
Adam Curry: doesn't count. Okay,
we'll use the W word. I mean,

3223
03:10:29,000 --> 03:10:31,880
who cares about shit? I mean,
it's the W word we have to be

3224
03:10:31,880 --> 03:10:34,460
careful of. And now, ladies and
gentlemen, time to end the show

3225
03:10:34,460 --> 03:10:36,440
with John's famous Tip of the
Day. JC,

3226
03:10:40,060 --> 03:10:41,140
Unknown: me just

3227
03:10:42,700 --> 03:10:44,260
JC, and if I, and

3228
03:10:45,520 --> 03:10:47,560
John C Dvorak: sometimes had to
start documenting these

3229
03:10:47,560 --> 03:10:50,080
Adam Curry: chips. Yes, hello.
We've been talking about

3230
03:10:50,080 --> 03:10:53,500
documenting these and trying to
get into a giblet. It needs to

3231
03:10:53,500 --> 03:10:56,440
be a giblet. It needs to be a
giblet. Giblet.

3232
03:10:56,800 --> 03:10:59,800
John C Dvorak: What have I
plugged Irfan view.

3233
03:11:00,940 --> 03:11:03,960
Adam Curry: I, what is it sounds
familiar. Perfect

3234
03:11:03,960 --> 03:11:06,780
John C Dvorak: view is the the
troll room would know if I

3235
03:11:06,780 --> 03:11:10,680
plugged this before Earth fan.
View is the is the image viewer

3236
03:11:10,680 --> 03:11:13,200
that yes, everybody should be
no, you did I have Yep, you're

3237
03:11:13,200 --> 03:11:14,760
good. Okay. Then we moved to,

3238
03:11:17,160 --> 03:11:19,560
Adam Curry: but can I just say
something for a moment, sure,

3239
03:11:20,700 --> 03:11:27,200
the previous tip of the crate of
Bordeaux at Costco. First of

3240
03:11:27,200 --> 03:11:32,480
all, I think Costco stock is up.
It's now sold out everywhere.

3241
03:11:32,840 --> 03:11:36,560
All Costco team members have
been alerted. There's a weird

3242
03:11:36,560 --> 03:11:41,140
podcast that sends people to
their store. Tina went to Costco

3243
03:11:41,380 --> 03:11:51,040
in San Anton, could not find
there was they're out curiously,

3244
03:11:51,340 --> 03:11:56,860
Costco also was out of eggs. So
eggs out of eggs, too many

3245
03:11:56,860 --> 03:12:01,620
eggs.com. They're out of eggs,
no eggs, no Bordeaux crates.

3246
03:12:01,680 --> 03:12:04,740
What is happening? Well, the

3247
03:12:04,800 --> 03:12:10,020
John C Dvorak: Costco here has
yet to have this Bordeaux mini

3248
03:12:10,020 --> 03:12:16,320
pack in stock, and so I'm still
waiting to get my couple of

3249
03:12:16,320 --> 03:12:23,000
batches. But yes, it's people
are buying two or three of these

3250
03:12:23,000 --> 03:12:26,120
things. It's Yes, sucking them
up. They

3251
03:12:26,120 --> 03:12:30,020
Adam Curry: should have done
limit to per customer. But all

3252
03:12:30,020 --> 03:12:31,940
right, do you have a different
tip for Yes?

3253
03:12:32,000 --> 03:12:34,160
John C Dvorak: Kurt, I go back
to Costco. Since you brought it

3254
03:12:34,160 --> 03:12:37,280
up. Kirkland, I should people
should know this one little

3255
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:44,200
factoid, the cheap Kirkland
vodka in the 1.75 liter bottle,

3256
03:12:44,200 --> 03:12:49,120
which goes for 25 bucks or so.
It's cheap, huh? It's in a big,

3257
03:12:49,120 --> 03:12:52,480
very attractive bottle, and it
says very carefully, and it says

3258
03:12:52,480 --> 03:12:57,880
Made in France, that's that is
actually gray goose.

3259
03:12:58,360 --> 03:13:02,760
Adam Curry: No, so it's a liter
and a half gray goose, no, 1.75

3260
03:13:04,380 --> 03:13:07,920
1.75 liters of gray goose for 25

3261
03:13:08,340 --> 03:13:11,400
John C Dvorak: bucks or so.
Yeah, it depends on your Costco

3262
03:13:11,400 --> 03:13:15,480
at prices. But how did you find
out about this, about it being

3263
03:13:15,480 --> 03:13:18,480
gray goose, from some industry
insider, huh?

3264
03:13:18,780 --> 03:13:21,260
Adam Curry: So they're just
white labeling gray goose now.

3265
03:13:21,980 --> 03:13:22,160
Well,

3266
03:13:22,160 --> 03:13:24,320
John C Dvorak: not only that,
but if you compare it to the

3267
03:13:24,320 --> 03:13:27,620
gray goose bottle, it's one of
the most spectacular bottles

3268
03:13:27,620 --> 03:13:30,980
that Costco has, and it's all
his Kirkland lineup. It's a

3269
03:13:30,980 --> 03:13:34,280
beauty. It's like a big,
beautiful crystal bottle is

3270
03:13:34,280 --> 03:13:37,580
huge. And, I mean, it's not
useful for anything else, but

3271
03:13:37,580 --> 03:13:38,060
wow.

3272
03:13:38,120 --> 03:13:39,380
Adam Curry: What is it called?
Again,

3273
03:13:40,580 --> 03:13:45,640
John C Dvorak: Kirkland vodka,
but it's, but it's important.

3274
03:13:45,640 --> 03:13:47,980
It's, there's two of them.
There's a cheap American

3275
03:13:48,340 --> 03:13:51,520
Kirkland vodka, which is like
nothing. They basically here.

3276
03:13:51,520 --> 03:13:54,580
Have it for free. And then they
have this one, which is the

3277
03:13:54,580 --> 03:13:57,820
imported one. And it says, mate,
you can find it if it says, Made

3278
03:13:57,820 --> 03:14:01,140
in France, is made in France. Is
a beautiful bottle, terrific

3279
03:14:01,140 --> 03:14:01,560
product.

3280
03:14:01,560 --> 03:14:05,040
Adam Curry: Long Costco, we're
gonna put we're gonna man.

3281
03:14:10,380 --> 03:14:14,280
Another tip from John C Dvorak,
everybody. He is the man with

3282
03:14:14,280 --> 03:14:20,900
the plan. Go get your Kirkland
vogtech. Unbelievable. Hey,

3283
03:14:20,900 --> 03:14:25,520
stick around on the stream if
you're listening@trollroom.io or

3284
03:14:25,640 --> 03:14:28,640
no agenda stream.com, we're on
the modern podcast. I have just

3285
03:14:28,640 --> 03:14:33,560
two good old boys coming up. I
think that's sir gene is one of

3286
03:14:33,560 --> 03:14:38,060
those two good old boys well
worth listening to. End of show

3287
03:14:38,060 --> 03:14:42,820
mixes. We have some good ones
today. David kecta, he's doing

3288
03:14:42,820 --> 03:14:47,020
one every, every single show, it
seems like Sir Dr i with a

3289
03:14:47,080 --> 03:14:50,800
shorty. Judd Holly with a home
brew, beautiful and Cliff

3290
03:14:50,800 --> 03:14:54,100
custodian, Neil Jones had time,
once again, to bring us an Ender

3291
03:14:54,100 --> 03:14:58,960
show mix. We love it and we love
it. When you send us value for

3292
03:14:58,960 --> 03:15:02,520
the value you receive. For the
past three hours and 15 minutes

3293
03:15:02,520 --> 03:15:08,040
of media deconstruction and good
old fashioned humor coming to

3294
03:15:08,040 --> 03:15:10,320
you from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in

3295
03:15:10,320 --> 03:15:13,740
Fredericksburg in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry, yeah,

3296
03:15:13,800 --> 03:15:16,800
John C Dvorak: if you really
Silicon Valley, where's foggy

3297
03:15:16,980 --> 03:15:18,720
again. I'm John C Dvorak. We

3298
03:15:18,720 --> 03:15:22,040
Adam Curry: return on Sunday,
right here with another no

3299
03:15:22,040 --> 03:15:25,460
agenda. Remember us at no agenda
donations.com. No agenda

3300
03:15:25,460 --> 03:15:30,980
show.net, until then, adios,
mofos, a hooey, hooey and such.

3301
03:15:30,980 --> 03:15:33,140
Unknown: You take on the
intelligence community. They

3302
03:15:33,140 --> 03:15:36,440
have six ways from Sunday at
getting back at you and boosting

3303
03:15:36,440 --> 03:15:40,540
Trump back in 2016 but I also
think there are Americans who

3304
03:15:40,540 --> 03:15:46,840
are engaged in this kind of
propaganda, and whether they

3305
03:15:46,840 --> 03:15:50,980
should be civilly or even in
some cases, criminally charged,

3306
03:15:51,460 --> 03:15:53,260
is something that would be a

3307
03:15:53,620 --> 03:15:58,900
better deterrent. Right now, I
feel like Maga in general, they

3308
03:15:58,900 --> 03:16:00,660
are threats to us domestically.

3309
03:16:02,040 --> 03:16:04,800
I just don't even know why there
aren't uprisings all over the

3310
03:16:04,800 --> 03:16:06,060
country. Maybe there will be.

3311
03:16:07,800 --> 03:16:14,160
You know what Maga hates the
most about of us, our joy. We

3312
03:16:14,160 --> 03:16:15,780
are the party of fun

3313
03:16:19,560 --> 03:16:22,820
and giving everybody a life.
Man, this is an unbelievable

3314
03:16:22,820 --> 03:16:25,340
thing. Man, like we all made
everybody know ain't no party

3315
03:16:25,340 --> 03:16:26,180
like a Diddy party.

3316
03:16:31,280 --> 03:16:32,900
Everybody know ain't over party
like a

3317
03:16:40,340 --> 03:16:40,880
Diddy party,

3318
03:16:41,000 --> 03:16:46,300
we are the party of it's

3319
03:16:46,300 --> 03:16:46,600
like

3320
03:16:46,660 --> 03:16:47,680
John C Dvorak: stamp collecting

3321
03:16:49,420 --> 03:16:52,180
Adam Curry: podcasting. Just
like stamp collecting, yeah,

3322
03:16:52,180 --> 03:16:54,100
another thing chicks think is
really hot.

3323
03:16:54,820 --> 03:16:55,660
Unknown: Oh yeah, the

3324
03:16:55,660 --> 03:16:58,480
John C Dvorak: chicks we all
know from the podcasters and the

3325
03:16:58,480 --> 03:17:07,080
stamp collectors, stamp
collectors and figurines, Star

3326
03:17:11,940 --> 03:17:14,760
Trek, action figures, chick
magnet.

3327
03:17:22,680 --> 03:17:25,040
Unknown: Yup, yummy, yummy,
yummy. I've got cats in my

3328
03:17:25,040 --> 03:17:30,380
tummy, and I feel like a kitty
stew. A cat is such a sweet

3329
03:17:30,380 --> 03:17:36,860
thing, good enough to eat, and
it's just what I'm gonna do, put

3330
03:17:36,920 --> 03:17:46,840
you on the stove. Ooh, you're
Sweeter, sweeter the sugar

3331
03:17:47,080 --> 03:17:48,640
kitty, I won't let you go.

3332
03:17:58,240 --> 03:18:02,040
Yummy, yummy, yummy. I've got
dogs in my tummy. And as silly

3333
03:18:02,040 --> 03:18:08,640
as it may seem, I want some dog
chili or a kitty sandwich, maybe

3334
03:18:08,700 --> 03:18:14,460
ducks and geese. Add a little
sugar, add a little spices, add

3335
03:18:14,460 --> 03:18:23,000
a little kitty roast. Kinda
sounds funny. I love it. I love

3336
03:18:23,060 --> 03:18:23,480
you so.

3337
03:18:29,420 --> 03:18:34,280
And any idiot that runs some
like podcasts, they're begging

3338
03:18:37,820 --> 03:18:43,360
Adam Curry: smash the subscribe
button.

3339
03:18:50,800 --> 03:18:53,620
John C Dvorak: Smash that like
Smash begging, smash, smash.

3340
03:18:57,160 --> 03:19:02,460
Adam Curry: Listen to my hands
begging

3341
03:19:19,080 --> 03:19:21,140
Unknown: Adios, moforat.org/
vorac.org/n,

3342
03:19:23,540 --> 03:19:26,540
a that was some weird shit. You.