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John C Dvorak: Dogs and cats
will watch TV. Adam curry.

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Unknown: John C Dvorak, Sunday,

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Adam Curry: October 6, 2024 this
is your award winning Kim on

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Asian media assassination
episode 1701.

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Unknown: This is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: beginning every 15
minutes and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region,

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's too

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damned hot. I'm John C Dvorak
buzzkill,

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Adam Curry: oh yeah, yeah, I
figured you'd be you'd be mad

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about that. You have a bad
attitude today about things you

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got. You're mad because it's too
hot and you have no air

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conditioning. Was 95 yesterday.
That's what I mean. It's too hot

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for San Francisco. Too hot. It's
too hot. Listen to that.

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Theremin. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have achieved the pinnacle

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episode 1701 the same digits as
the Starship Enterprise. Have

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you ever heard this version of
what this Theremin lady? It's a

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live habit. It's a live
orchestra with a there man. I

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love it. It's fantastic.

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John C Dvorak: I we used to talk
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name. She's a famous Theremin
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Adam Curry: katika. Katika
Eleni, I think, I think she's

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Eastern Bloc. Anyway, John, 1701
episodes, that's not bad.

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John C Dvorak: 1701 Yeah, we
could have done a promotion, but

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we'd get sued by Paramount.
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Adam Curry: it's interesting you
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because I hadn't even thought
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that's probably a good point if
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Star Trek imagery do, they come
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John C Dvorak: yeah. Then they
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do. And you, if you're gonna do
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time, so they do it with
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Adam Curry: So we should tell
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any Star Trek.

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John C Dvorak: We will run
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Adam Curry: You can't even do
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John C Dvorak: there's not a
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Adam Curry: it depends on what
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that's very dependent upon the
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John C Dvorak: And they, I think
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Well, maybe not so much. That's
beside the point. We usually

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don't use parodies necessarily
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Adam Curry: we use a lot of
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John C Dvorak: fact mockery is
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Adam Curry: well, all right,
mockery, that's good, man. I

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think we should just kick it off
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coverage, very demure, very
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Unknown: Helene has now become
the deadliest mainland hurricane

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since Katrina back in 2005
almost 20 years ago, the storm's

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death toll is now at least 227
across several states, but many

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people are still unaccounted
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desperate for answers, and the
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The full extent of the damage is
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communities there struggle to
get basic supplies, and hundreds

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of 1000s of people still remain
without power. This morning, our

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Gio Benitez is leading our
special coverage, southeast

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strong, and joins us now live
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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is the
new thing, southeast strong. You

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see, you've got to say southeast
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southeast strong.

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John C Dvorak: I think
misreporting is the key to this.

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Yes, it seems from every side of
the spectrum, yes. And I looked,

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there was one that came up. I
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woman comes on talking about
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who aren't elderly at all, and
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because the helicopter pilot was
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chief, yeah, and if I'm gonna
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the fire chief's not a
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like a three minute chopper ride
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the side of a hill, to the town
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stand down. Well, I don't
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go back and pick this one guy
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picked up his son, which he
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know, it was only three minutes
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someplace else where this fire
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telling you not to do it? Well,
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Adam Curry: that one I can, I
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between picking up the woman and
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behind, they put a TFR in place,
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and the only way to get there
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Gully, or whatever it was, was
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put up as a TFR. It doesn't mean
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anybody. Yeah, but I mean that,
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was, there's also, this is so
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I loved everybody, like Lindsey
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doesn't care. Lindsey Graham is
a horrible person. And they play

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Unknown: this clip. You know,
I've been going all over

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South Carolina, like most people
hadn't slept much, but look

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what's going on in Israel. Our
friends in Israel, surrounded by

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Adam Curry: that wanted doesn't
care about anybody. There was,

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that's a good one. There was
six, six minutes of him and

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Hannity talking about and and
even Graham was going off on his

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John C Dvorak: by the way, his
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is something to behold Israel. I
can't even do it,

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Adam Curry: so I, you know, I'm
the last person to kind of

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defend Lindsey Graham, but in
this case, that's for sure, that

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it was really it was so like
Lindsey Graham didn't care about

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people. He was talking about it
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everybody out. But I went back,
actually did a little bit of

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historical work, and was
checking some stuff. And, you

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know, there's a governor race
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and the lieutenant governor is
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far as I understand, that Mark
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big black guy that's always
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fire and damnation, very, very
controversial guy, and it seems

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like the kind of trying to pin
all of this stuff or the the the

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slow federal response on

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Unknown: on him. Republican
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Robinson says, even though he
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state's emergency declaration
before Helene, the vote didn't

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matter. Yeah, the lieutenant

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governor was the only elected
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Governor Roy Cooper's request
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North Carolina Capitol reporter
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with this story, and Michael the
Lieutenant Governor pointed the

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finger back at the governor. He

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talked about all this today as
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more supplies out to the western
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over the last several days,
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to western North Carolina,
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food and water and coordinating
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missions. He's posted on social
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impacted, and said Governor Roy
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respond to the devastation.
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storm was approaching, the
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and the other eight members of
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group of statewide elected
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in support of declaring a state
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only member not to vote. This
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his staff were resigning from
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what he said when asked why he
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even need to cover why, because
here's the bottom line, my vote

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in that it would that vote was
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vote. So it was absolutely
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voting. It didn't matter.

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disaster, and vote so that we
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the one thing he could have done
he didn't do, a

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spokesman for Governor Cooper
accused Robinson of engaging in

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online disinformation campaign
about the storm response that he

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says causes confusion in areas
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potentially puts lives at risk.
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for being in New York last week
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approaching, Cooper's office
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Carolina Wednesday afternoon and
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Adam Curry: It's it's so Oh,
it's his fault. Well, if you got

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nine people and eight vote, then
it's okay, but there's so much

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John C Dvorak: Don't overlook
Robinson's being smeared last

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week or the week before. That's
the whole point. Being on the

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black pervs for teens, website
team years ago, and a black Nazi

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thing and that whole thing. I
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that even Trump couldn't bring
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the North Carolina rallies. So
the guys, they've gone after

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this. He's a hot potato.

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Unknown: He's a hot hot potato.
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John C Dvorak: He can still win.

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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah,
but, but, you know, people don't

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really understand how everything
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management. And I'm pretty sure
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North Carolina, they, you know,
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course, what everyone saw a lot
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media, was the redneck, redneck
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Unknown: It's the sound of
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just kind of organized a private
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routes in and out. Matt McSwain
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says he received a call from
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organization now working to
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efforts for folks trapped in
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I feel very much like this is
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redneck navy. Redneck Marine. So
redneck Marines, McSwain took us

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back to the War Room, where we
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not share any audio from inside,
there's a station where they

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gather calls for help, often
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triage the severity of the need
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the flight, and then attempt to
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One of the biggest hurdles,
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to land. When we go to those GPS
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to land there. It might be a
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Tuesday. He says they plan to
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shuttling in communication
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the grid. We tried to establish
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sheriff's department, the fire
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Adam Curry: So you know what I'm
seeing? I don't know about you,

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but I just see all of this the
government, you know best. No

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good. They're late. Everything's
horrible. They're doing this on

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purpose. If it was, if it was a
blue state, they'd be there in

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minutes, you know, on and on and
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we're still dealing with the,
oh, it's, it's a, it's for the

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courts, it's for the lithium
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John C Dvorak: And let's, well,
you can drop that part of it.

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But the blue state thing, it is
a blue state. It's got a it's

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got a Democrat governor. A lot
of these people are black, yeah,

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Asheville, North Carolina, one
of the centers is, is a lesbian

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stronghold of the South. It's
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she Ville. You take the A out of
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she Ville. And so this is bull
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Adam Curry: that, I like, is it
hanlon's razor? I think it is

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hanlon's razor. Never attribute
to malice, that which is

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's and
also it doesn't help that the

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situation coming out of the
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Majorca, who said we're out of
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we're out of money, which I have
two clips from John Pierre, this

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has been floating around. This
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conferences kJP this week,
categorically,

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John C Dvorak: and then here she
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with city officials on site to
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shelter program to eligible
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non for profit organizations
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humanitarian relief for
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Adam Curry: Well, exactly. And
this is kind of my point, our

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government is, and that's all
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body, which people, somehow, in
my lifetime, have come to like,

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oh, something's wrong. The
cavalry's coming. Yeah, the

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Redneck Marine Corps is coming.
Your neighbors are coming.

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People who, regardless of your
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your gender, sexuality, your
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your neighbors were coming. But
stop waiting for the government,

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because our government, that's
what our government is, an

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administrative state filled with
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John C Dvorak: in 89 it was
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the Bay Area where he had the 89
Loma Prieta earthquake and the

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freeway collapsed. It was just
all locals going out and

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rescuing people. There was you
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the government. Screw the
government. You got to go out

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and do what you do. And there's
all kinds of local heroes that

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pull people out of cars, under a
crush, to overpass and all the

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rest. And it was all just people
doing what you could do to help

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Adam Curry: But really, we need
to just come to grips with the

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fact that all government,
especially state and federal

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emergency, are completely
incompetent. They have forgotten

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and forsaken their their
mission. You know, media, of

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course, can't even cover this
because, oh, don't let anybody

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catch on, specifically North
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came to gender neutral
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lot going on. That was during
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John C Dvorak: and it was mostly
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Adam Curry: but when the rubber
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no clue on how to operate. And
you know, people are even

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saying, you know, do you really
want FEMA? Because here's.

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Corrupt and nasty. The system
is, you know, people like yo,

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they're stopping aid. They're
not letting us get through no

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because if you the minute FEMA
comes into your state, they have

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their approved, their approved
suppliers, you know, which may

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be Walmart or whoever, I don't
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approved suppliers, and you are
they, they cannot, by agreement,

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let any other supplies come in,
because it's, it's like, oh,

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money grab. Just like where the
money originally went to, for,

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you know, for asylum seekers,
migrants, the newcomers that you

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know, that didn't even go to the
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to nonprofits, the nonprofits
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makes seven, $800,000 a year.
That's your problem. You've got

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to they've got to stop thinking
that the government is going to

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do anything for you. And do you
really want them in? Here's an

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example of why you might not
want them in. Are they

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anywhere. What are

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Adam Curry: you seeing from FEMA
in the federal and the federal

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response, if any? I

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Unknown: mean, they're present.
They're in the way. They are

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directly interrupting our
ability to conduct missions and

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operations. And I'm not going to
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are trying to work with in
partner relationships, both

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government and non government
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federal and county, you know,
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people into a hotel last night,
and I they have a security guard

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at the hotel. He said, Oh, we're
so sorry. The entire hotel has

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been booked for federal
employees. And it's like, no, I

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have people that would just pull
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living out in the hills, and
there's not a place for me to

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put them, because we have
federal employees that are

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staying the hotel. I slept in
this white car last night. I

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smell like foot and death right
now, as does every single person

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our team. Not a single one of us
slept. We got done maybe at

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three o'clock. The moment the
sun was up. We could fly

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helicopters again. We were back
in the air, and we have not

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stopped. And I was like, on the
fence about trying to get on

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this program or not. I want
people to understand how

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incredible this organization is,
save our allies and all the work

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that all of these volunteers are
doing. But people, this is

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biblical level devastation.
Yeah, this is apocalyptic. The

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things that we see out there,

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Adam Curry: yeah, just you can't
count on you stop counting on

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your government. Then that's
what that's very tiring to see

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everybody running around like,
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I mean, even the the kJP clips,
I mean, it's all being

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politicized. Well, there's 1000s
of dead people. It's just, it's,

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it's the good side of who we are
as Americans and the bad side.

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And by the way, this is not a
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the Tennessee Valley. We have

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the Tennessee Valley Authority,
which was brought in initially

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to also work with, you know,
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there was not too much flooding.
You know, the big one was 1916

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when this happened, this exact
same scenario happened, and the

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city of Asheville was gone. I
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few feet below what it was now.
This was quite incredible, the

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amount of water. And then around
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there was a project to create a
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called, hmm, I'm trying to think
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The French Broad River valleys.
They wanted to make a lake. The

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Tennessee Valley Authority
wanted to, which would probably

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have stopped this from happening
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there was this huge backlash,
because there were 60 families

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who were there and they didn't
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of the lake. Well, okay, so you
all made a decision, and here

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you go. That said these
hurricanes coming out of the

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Gulf, particularly the one now
supposedly headed towards

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Florida. Tina lived in Florida
for over 15 years. She said she

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cannot remember a time when a
hurricane was about to hit all

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of Florida that came out of the
Gulf. Can you,

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John C Dvorak: I don't keep
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it doesn't seem like it would be
that unusual, Yeah,

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Adam Curry: apparently it is. It
is because you have this

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hurricane Katrina came out of
the Gulf, yeah, but that didn't

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hit Florida. Well, Florida got
affected, yeah? Not, not like

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John C Dvorak: And there was
that one just a couple of years

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ago that that hurricane they
went through Tampa,

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Adam Curry: which one was that
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John C Dvorak: was the one that
hit that one town really bad,

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and they made a big fuss about
it. And Tampa was hit pretty

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hard, and that came out of the
Gulf were the fish

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Adam Curry: flopping in the
street. They're always, always,

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yeah. Yeah. Well, I haven't
heard much climate change yet,

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although I'm sure it's coming,
and we're all crazy. Climate

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change is doing this. Somebody
brought

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John C Dvorak: up the fact that
a lot of this moisture may have

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been caused by a underwater
volcano, some, some like a year

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moisture in the air that had to

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come out eventually. Well,

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Adam Curry: you know, there's
plenty of government projects

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that go way back that that have
tried to steer hurricanes. I

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think that it was in like 1963
or something, when was, I was

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Eisenhower president? No, that
was Kennedy. No,

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John C Dvorak: Kennedy must

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Adam Curry: have been earlier
and and so they would drop

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silver iodine into the into the
hurricane iodide. They would

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drop that into the hurricane and
then they could steer it. But it

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also, of course, created an
enormous amount of water, which

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John C Dvorak: So you know, how
would that mechanism work,

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steering it with silver.

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Adam Curry: I'm just telling you
what, what? What the report was

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that somehow, by I

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John C Dvorak: remembered the
time, and say probably the 60s

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or 70s, where they said, Well,
if it's really bad, we can drop

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a nuke on this thing and knock
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Adam Curry: How can we ever?
I've heard it on this show from

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you. I've never, I don't think
they ever. They should try it.

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Man, come on, give it a shot. Of
course, the real issue at hand

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Unknown: as western North
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devastating flood damage
following Hurricane Helene,

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election officials are
scrambling to prepare for early

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voting. Yeah, North Carolina is,
of course, a key swing state

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that could very well decide next
month's presidential election.

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Steve Harrison from member
station WFA in Charlotte, has

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been covering this and joins us
now. Hey, Steve, Hey, Scott.

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Early voting begins in North
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more than two weeks from today.
Do state elections officials

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think they'll be ready? Yeah. I
mean, they're confident it will

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begin on time in all counties,
but they can't really say what

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voting will look like. As of
this morning, there's still 10

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county elections board offices
that haven't reopened. That

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means they can't process new
registrations, they can't send

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out or receive mail ballots. I
mean, you have to imagine that

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that voting sites were just were
just overwhelmed by the

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flooding. How bad is the damage?
Are they unusable? Yes. Karen

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Brinson Bell, the executive
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elections, said some of those
voting sites may be impossible

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to reach for now, at least
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trees and in some cases, roads
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Brinson Bell said the state has
had experience running elections

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after hurricanes, after
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Carolina in 2019 she said the
board used a tent and trailers

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for voting in Hyde County, which
is on the coast. And that may

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happen again. The state hopes to
know by the end of this week

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what voting sites can be used
and which ones can't.

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Adam Curry: We'll have to see
how that affects this important

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swing state.

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John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
serious eclipse on voting. If

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you're going to talk about
voting, early voting in

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particular, yeah,

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Adam Curry: I would just say I
think it's great what the

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citizens of North Carolina have
done. And, of course, also in

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Florida, grousing. But the
grousing, you know, I had boots

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on the ground, RVG, truth on the
X I know, is ombre. And this

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guy, he goes everywhere. He's,
you know, he was at the border

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for months, and then always he
just drives up and he's and then

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he's in North Carolina, and he
says, you know, the people are

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actually getting it together.
And if anything, the social all

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the social media stuff, all of
it. He says, sucks. It sucks for

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the people there. Well,

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John C Dvorak: I would say, also
I think the media coverage sucks

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too.

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Adam Curry: It's completely, I
mean, I was texting which

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John C Dvorak: was trying to
dissensational as usual. Gee,

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I'm shocked, shocked that
they're sensationalizing the

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news. What's

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Adam Curry: interesting, though,
is that in Europe, no one even

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knows this is happening. It's
almost not covered, like, Yeah,

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whatever this. We've seen

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John C Dvorak: some reports, but
it's covered like, straight,

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like, straight news, just a
mention, yeah. You know, there's

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Adam Curry: much more important
things, you know, like Iran and

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Ukraine and,

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John C Dvorak: oh, money, money.
Well, that everyone

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Adam Curry: has a universally,
people have an issue with all

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the money being spent on other
countries. I think that that's

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now almost a bipartisan issue or
nonpartisan.

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John C Dvorak: Let's play these
clips. This is early voting.

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This all from NPR. It's a long
report. I got through, I think

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four clips here. They're not
long, but this is about early

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voting, and there's a bunch of
subtle propaganda in here, as

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usual as you would expect from
NPR,

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Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR. You. Or

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PBS, Election

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Day is a month away, and early
voting is already happening.

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More than a million votes have
already been cast, with more

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coming every day. Miles parks is
our voting correspondent. He

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covers the topic 365 days a
year. What a

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Adam Curry: voting correspondent
who has Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: and did you hear
what he does? He covers the

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topic 300 every day, every

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Unknown: day of the year, every
year, but right now is the

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moment when all of the
storylines he's following rise

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to the top of everyone else's
minds as well. That is

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especially true given how much
the attempt to overturn the

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2020, presidential election
results hangs over everything in

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this contest. So give it all
that we brought miles on to talk

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to us about what he is focusing
on. Hey miles, Hey Scott.

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Hey Scott. Hey miles,

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Hey Scott.

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Let's start with the lawsuits,
because many are already being

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filed. What do we need to know?
Yeah,

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so there's kind of two major
buckets. I think voters can kind

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of monitor lawsuits over the
next couple of weeks. One is

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about how people actually be
casting ballots. The two big

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kind of things we're watching
that still have yet to be

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determined. One is in
Pennsylvania, big battleground

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state, as you know, well,
there's a big legal battle

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brewing over when people turn in
a mail ballot and there's some

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sort of mistake on it, whether
that's they didn't put in the

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right envelope or put the wrong
date on it, whether those

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ballots should count.
Republicans argue they should

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not. Democrats argue they should
in Georgia, we're monitoring

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lawsuits related to the
administration the actual

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counting of ballots. Listeners
are probably familiar. The

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Georgia elections board has
passed a number of new rules in

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recent weeks, and there's a
bunch of litigation deciding

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whether those new rules should
stand.

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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is all
pro Trump changes, if I recall

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correctly. So that, of course,

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John C Dvorak: no, no.

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Adam Curry: I thought the

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John C Dvorak: Georgia thing is,
what's pro Trump about Georgia?

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And they never say this. They
never tell you any of this. They

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just said, well, blah, blah,
blah.

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Unknown: They don't mention what
it is.

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John C Dvorak: They never say
what it is. But the Georgia

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thing is, they're going to hand
count all the ballots to make

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sure that the machine count
matches, right? That would be

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anything pro Trump

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Adam Curry: because that was the
because Republicans hate the the

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machines,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, let's start
D bold.

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Adam Curry: Well, no, yeah.
Okay,

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John C Dvorak: so the other,
which is the doesn't do them

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anymore. Of course, those are
the George Bush machines. The

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other the other thing about the
ballot being in the wrong

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envelope. What have you ever
mailed in and it comes with an

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envelope? Wow, that just doesn't
make any sense. That would be

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what you stuff into some rando
envelope. I don't know. You

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know. Okay,

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Adam Curry: hold on before you
continue just about this

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specifically, Tina went to see
that the new D'souza movie,

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which is vindicating Trump.
Yeah, Dinesh D'Souza, where

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John C Dvorak: do you go see a
movie like that? It's in the

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Adam Curry: theater. She, she
and her and her friend went,

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actually in the theater. She and
her friend were the only two,

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John C Dvorak: well, in theater.
Granted, it

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Adam Curry: was 1130 in the
morning, but yeah, still

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vindicating Trump. And she said,
she said, Of course, it's a

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complete, you know, it's all pro
Trump, pro Trump. But what de

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Souza apparently shows there is
how you can for like 35 bucks,

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you can buy the voter roll, and
then you can just print all the

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ballots you want. You know,
it's, it's very our voting

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system is very simplistic. It
seems rather easy to Jack around

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with, and if you're first before
you know before the actual

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person gets to the ballot, and
it's like, hey, wait a minute,

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you already voted, then that's
that's just one of the many ways

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to cheat. It's no one trusts
this anymore.

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John C Dvorak: It's because it's
poorly operated. No kidding,

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it's been taken. Is Everyone's
been so lax about assuming it's

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fine that they just let it slide
it. This is ridiculous. Well,

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remember,

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Adam Curry: the term is no
widespread fraud. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: that's coming in
these clips. Okay, okay, so

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Unknown: that's bucket one, the
process one, itself. What about

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the second? The second

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is, we've seen a bunch of
lawsuits. This happened in 2020,

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as well. The Republicans have
been filing a number of lawsuits

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that legal experts basically say
have no shot at succeeding, but

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just serve to kind of inject
doubts about the process. These

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are generally been lawsuits
focusing on the idea of non

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citizens voting in American
elections. This is not an issue

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that there is evidence has ever
happened in anything but

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microscopic numbers. But in a
number of states, we've seen

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lawsuits from Republicans
alleging that it is happening or

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could happen.

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Let's talk more about that,
because this is something you've

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reported on a lot. This
narrative of non citizens

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casting

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ballots, there's been a pivot
from whether it's Donald Trump,

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Elon Musk, a number of prominent
figures on the far right, to

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start talking over the last few
months about non citizens voting

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in this election. And it seems
to be working. We had a poll out

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from NPR, PBS, news, Marist
College, out this week that

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found that nine in 10
Republicans are concerned that

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non citizens. Will vote in this
elections process, which you can

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kind of see down the road, how
this could make it an effective

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narrative should trump lose,
that he could focus on to try to

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overturn this election.

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Adam Curry: Here we go again.
There's, there's some truth to

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that. You know, I have a 38
second clip. You can I insert

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that? Yeah, I think so. This is
from Arizona.

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Unknown: This new data set, as
they're calling it, brings the

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total number of people impacted
to 218,000 instead of the 98,000

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we first reported. These people
were mistakenly marked as having

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provided documentary proof of
citizenship, and Arizona voter

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registration database now has
correctly flagged the impacted

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individuals. Election officials
say they will contact the

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affected Arizonans with
information regarding their

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status after the general
election. That means for now,

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the Arizona Supreme Court's
ruling is going to stay. That

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impacted voters, that includes
all of them, will still be able

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to vote. You get

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Adam Curry: to vote, no problem.
They go back later. Is this

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going to be the big dispute?
Well, it was 218,000 we got to

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call every single one of them
asked for the ID. Man, yeah, and

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we still can't put someone on
the moon. What good are we? I'm

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very down on all this,

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John C Dvorak: the and the idea
that, I mean the way they

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downplay the possibility of
some, I mean in Cal, like here,

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I've said it before, I go to
vote, I go in person. I have

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voted by mail to I do both. But
I went person, you

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Adam Curry: vote twice. You vote
twice.

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John C Dvorak: I could, you say,
she

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Adam Curry: said, I do both. So
I'm just, I could okay,

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John C Dvorak: but I'd only do
one, and California, it doesn't

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make any difference. So I wanted
to go in to use the machines so

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I could see what was going on
with the machines. Yeah, you

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talked about this. Yes, I did.
Made a long talk about it, and

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it just but I noticed they never
asked for ID. Never, never, have

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ever asked for ID. It's not as
though they're asking for ID.

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And now it's illegal in
California to ask for ID,

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although you have to, you have
to ask for ID for liquor and all

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the rest of it. But no, no
voting. Forget it. No, it's

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Adam Curry: not it's not that
important. It's just not that

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important. It's harder to get
out of jury duty, which is the

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other side of voting, as far as
I'm concerned. Like, oh man, I

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want to get out of your jury
duty. Don't need an ID to vote.

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John C Dvorak: So here we go
three.

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Unknown: Let's talk about
another impact over the ongoing

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rhetoric around the 2020,
election, the ongoing claims

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that Trump won the election,
which, again, he did not. He

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lost the election, but we have
seen this real uptick in

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harassment and threats to local
election

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officials. I

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Adam Curry: have not actually
seen any of this. Is there an

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actual report of someone being
threatened?

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John C Dvorak: There have been
reports in it stems from the

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2020 election and the Georgia
people, all right, who were who

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were threatened after the fact,
and I don't know that it's

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happening, but

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Adam Curry: I haven't seen any
reports of someone saying that

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guy threatened me. You know,
this is just, this is rhetoric

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here. This is rhetoric,

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Unknown: right? And a lot of
time talking to what are you

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hearing from them in terms of
the threats coming in and how

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they're preparing for a really
tense few weeks.

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There's a lot of nervousness.
And when I talk to election

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officials the last couple weeks,
I think where's the interview

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the reason is going back to this
poll I mentioned a second ago.

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The poll found that a majority
of Americans right now are

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concerned that voter fraud is
going to occur in this 2024,

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election, even though there's
never been evidence of

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widespread or systematic fraud,
widespread or systematic fraud

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in American elections,
especially recently,

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Adam Curry: you don't need
widespread fraud. You only need

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a couple of states Exactly.
That's the beauty of that's

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John C Dvorak: the that's the
point of saying white, yeah, you

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don't have widespread you have
targeted, yeah, that exactly.

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It's Can you swap out the word
widespread for targeted fraud?

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They won't do it,

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Adam Curry: yeah? Because that's
all you need with the electoral

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college. That's how it works.
You need a couple targeted

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fraud. Yeah? And one way to do
that, and Arizona,

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John C Dvorak: by the way, was
one of the targets. And yes,

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it's fairly obvious. It keeps
coming up. Information keeps

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coming to light. And who

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Adam Curry: and who targeted?
Who was the first to target

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Arizona? Fox News. They called
Arizona when there was 1% of the

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votes were in Fox News. That's

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John C Dvorak: a good point.
Yeah, Fox News, definitely and

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and

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Adam Curry: I would pay
attention to Fox News this time

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around as well. These people are
the media chooses who wins in

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our country. I'm staking my
reputation on it. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: all right. Last
clip

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Unknown: the fact that election
officials have spent the last

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four years trying to educate
voters. All the myriad security

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processes they have in place
that make it so fraud is so rare

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and especially hard to pull off
at like a statewide or a

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Adam Curry: federal race, right?
What's with all the laughters,

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bro,

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Unknown: that make it so fraud
is so rare and especially hard

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to pull off at like a statewide
or a federal race, right?

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They've been trying to educate
those right really clear. It's

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made a dent because Donald Trump
and other Republicans have

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continued hammering this issue,
though, I will say election

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officials are optimistic that
they're in a better position to

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respond to some of those doubts
this time around. Specifically,

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they're working closer than they
ever have before with law

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00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:38,780
enforcement, whether that's
around polling places or

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certifications, thinking about
after the election. And so I

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think election officials are a
little bit dejected at the tone

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and tenor in which some voters
are thinking about the election

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this time around, but they're
feeling definitely better

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prepared for it. Yeah,

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what are you anticipating when
it comes to how people cast

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their votes? Are you
anticipating less early voting,

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mail in, voting the 2020, or
what? Well,

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based on the conversations I've
had, both with experts and some

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poll results that we've seen, it
seems like the trend towards

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early voting is continuing. If
you actually zoom out and look

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at like, think about in like,
2000 or 2004 almost all voters.

666
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:16,500
More than 80% of voters, cast
their ballot in person on

667
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,840
election day, right? Whereas now
there is the expectation that

668
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,020
the majority of voters will vote
early in this election, whether

669
00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:27,860
that's early in person or by
mail. It is not a kind of height

670
00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:30,620
of the pandemic moment. So we
are definitely going to see less

671
00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:33,740
mail voting than we saw in 2020
but I think the majority of

672
00:36:33,740 --> 00:36:38,240
votes in this election cycle,
probably in the 55 to 60% range,

673
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,980
are going to be cast early this
time.

674
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:43,180
John C Dvorak: Two Two things
that have to be pointed out,

675
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:47,620
yes, and I didn't. I could have
gotten gone back and found the

676
00:36:47,620 --> 00:36:50,620
super clip of this, but there
was a super clip floating around

677
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:55,660
from 2016 where all the
Democrats are talking about a

678
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:59,800
fraudulent vote, and Trump was
not the, not my president. He

679
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,180
got in, you know, and Hillary
was the leader of the gang of

680
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:06,540
this, oh, we got gypped, you
know, as a fraud. It was a fake.

681
00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:09,660
It was a phony. So the Democrats
are just as guilty of this

682
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:13,020
complaining as anybody. And but
they seem to go all of a sudden,

683
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:16,140
that seems to have disappeared.
And then the other thing is, the

684
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:19,800
Democrats, once again, back in,
I don't know, the 80s, maybe the

685
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:26,720
70s, they put together a big
panel showing how, a study group

686
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:32,060
showing how mail in ballots are
so easy to phony up and to, you

687
00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:36,740
know, to make the Election
fraudulent. And there's all,

688
00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:40,040
mostly Democrats on this panel.
And it and it was, it came out,

689
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,940
and they used to talk about
this, this, this, this discuss.

690
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,060
This was discussed during the
2016 election, when they thought

691
00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:50,740
Trump stole the election, and
now that's not being discussed

692
00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:54,700
anymore either. These guys are
terrible at journalism.

693
00:37:55,780 --> 00:37:58,360
Adam Curry: No, they're doing
they're fantastic. They're doing

694
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:04,140
their actual job to to make the
donors to NPR happy.

695
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,500
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
me you, I didn't want to do

696
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:11,880
this, yeah, okay, but that
brings me to the two clips.

697
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,780
Okay, you're up, actually three
clips, but there's just two main

698
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:19,800
ones, which is the ambush clips.
And I took this from Megyn

699
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,660
Kelly's show.

700
00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:24,500
Adam Curry: Go, go. Wow, you're
watching Megyn Kelly now. Oh,

701
00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:26,720
John C Dvorak: this. It was the
clips that showed up, and I it

702
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,080
was, since I was stealing the
clips from her show, I might as

703
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,460
well let, let her also introduce
the clips. And these are some

704
00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:40,160
James O'Keefe found some had is
one of his women. You've

705
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,360
Adam Curry: seen this this, by
the way, this is a she is. This

706
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,960
is the best example of the
culture war economy. This is how

707
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960
we all make money. Now, we've
got to be all outraged. We got

708
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,160
undercover video We're all mad
about is crazy. It

709
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:58,540
John C Dvorak: is pretty funny
in that regard, if you from that

710
00:38:58,540 --> 00:39:03,420
perspective, definitely. Yeah.
But this poor doofus sounds

711
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:05,640
pretty. I guess he's O'Keefe.
Got a couple of

712
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,820
Adam Curry: women on the Oh,
yeah, of course. Honey potting.

713
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:09,000
These

714
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
John C Dvorak: guys, right?
Honey pots is what we used to

715
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,240
call it, the business. It's
beautiful, yes. And so they got

716
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:19,560
this poor sucker from MSNBC, one
of the producers. These are the

717
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,520
guys, if you do any hits on any
of these shows, if you're in

718
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,380
that, if you're doing spots,
it's the producers who call you.

719
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:29,240
They're the ones who booked you.
They do all the work

720
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,120
Adam Curry: and do the pre
interview and make sure that you

721
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,400
know exactly what you're going
to say, so they know it. So they

722
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
can do the lead in, they can
time it perfectly, and you're

723
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,580
good to go.

724
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:39,620
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then so
they can also write the copy for

725
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:44,020
the news reader, yeah, so they
get everything works smoothly.

726
00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:47,500
It's its way. It's just the way
it is. And so here's some dumb

727
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:53,320
schlub who's named by Megan in
the second clip, getting Honey

728
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,360
potted into stupidity. All knew

729
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Unknown: this about MSNBC, but
it's still interesting to hear a

730
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,400
producer at the network. Admit
it, saying the following. Watch,

731
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,840
do you feel like MSNBC is doing
enough to help the Harris

732
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,560
campaign?

733
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,300
I mean, they're doing all they
can, which is why amplify her

734
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:16,680
message? What? What her message
of the day is, is their message

735
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,980
of the day. This hammers home
the point that I'm making, that

736
00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:23,360
this news network is
indistinguishable from the

737
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,140
party. Are

738
00:40:24,140 --> 00:40:27,560
they just a Democratic Party's
mouthpiece? Exactly. MSNBC is

739
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,660
the Democratic Party's
mouthpiece. He

740
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:32,660
Adam Curry: kind of says it a
bit like with disdain, like he's

741
00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:36,500
he even finds it somewhat
disgusting. Or am I mishearing

742
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:36,980
that?

743
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,860
John C Dvorak: I, you know, I
he's got a smile on his face, so

744
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:43,120
I'm not sure that's true. All
right? Well, in audio, sticky

745
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,420
smiling at her, and he's going
in line, and she's asking

746
00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:50,860
leading questions. Of some
you're on a date. Hey, some

747
00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:54,700
girls leading you on with these
sorts of what are you creating

748
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:55,420
questions? How

749
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,760
Adam Curry: hard up for a date
are you that you're gonna let

750
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,860
this shutting up? Come on, you
don't choose? Oh, man, yes,

751
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:02,760
crazy, yeah,

752
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,700
Unknown: so it's MSNBC, just
like doing whatever it takes to

753
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:07,560
get his home a real update.
She's

754
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,900
Adam Curry: even asking the
questions like an interviewer.

755
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,600
How can this guy not know what's
going on? Yes,

756
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:15,420
Unknown: they've made their
viewers dumber over the years.

757
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,440
Viewers get mad at the guests or
the hosts, if the host were to

758
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,280
criticize Democrats because
they're so brainwashed.

759
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:25,160
Yes, and to think, you know, the
Democratic Party can

760
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,480
do no wrong, not that they can't
do any wrong. It's maybe they

761
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,660
can do wrong. I just don't want
to hear about it. Don't say it

762
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,620
out loud, because if you say it
out loud, it helps Trump. I

763
00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:40,780
think brainwashing and dumbing
down, it's bad, aggressive. I

764
00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:42,940
get it helps Trump. You

765
00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:46,360
Adam Curry: know, what I think
I'm hearing from him is that he

766
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,020
finds it all despicable. He
probably thinks Kamala Harris is

767
00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:55,180
dumb, but the brainwashing has
taken place in him that, oh, no,

768
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:58,540
Trump's gonna get rid of the
Constitution. He's gonna get rid

769
00:41:58,540 --> 00:42:01,980
of our democracy. I think that's
what I'm hearing. You know, it's

770
00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:05,460
like, you know, he's going to
rip up the Constitution on day

771
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:08,520
one. He's going to be a dictator
from day one, all of these

772
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,180
things has seeped into his
brain, and he just believes it.

773
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,260
Yeah,

774
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,100
John C Dvorak: it could be. I
mean, I'm not sure he's talking

775
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:20,600
too much about it. And you know,
if you're going to be sneaky,

776
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,620
like this guy, or like the whole
network. I mean, it's the kind

777
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:26,540
of thing you'd be a little more
I think,

778
00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:29,660
Adam Curry: well, it's not
sneaky. Then again, wait,

779
00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:34,820
John C Dvorak: wait, let me
correct myself. It's possible

780
00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:37,160
that they're not being, you
know, they are brainwashing and

781
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,320
dumbing down their pocket, but
they think they're doing it for

782
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,120
a good cause, for

783
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,020
Adam Curry: America, yeah, from
America. From

784
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,020
John C Dvorak: America, yeah,
yeah. I can. I can, yeah, I

785
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:50,020
can't argue against that
possibility, which has always

786
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:53,200
been my argument, which is that
sincerity on the part of these

787
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,160
people is quite high,

788
00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:56,920
Adam Curry: but they are also,
they are, by extension, part of

789
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,220
the entire administrative state.
They also feel like they're part

790
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:05,580
of it. They're in DC, they're
going to the same parties.

791
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:08,760
They're hanging out with the
same people. They have a little

792
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,560
bit of a little bit of power
because, oh, I'm on TV, you

793
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,920
know, oh, you're important from
time to time. Can give me your

794
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,900
cell number. I can give you a
call, you know, when I hear

795
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:21,740
something that, you know, of
course, I'm going to be leaking

796
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:24,260
on purposely to you, but, you
know, it might be inside track.

797
00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:27,380
It make you look good. You know,
they're, they're a part of that

798
00:43:27,380 --> 00:43:31,220
system. The entire This is, what
is the Is it 4 million people

799
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,180
that work for the, for the, for
all administrative agencies?

800
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:37,580
John C Dvorak: I think it's
higher than that. Yeah. So

801
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:43,120
Adam Curry: it's, it's to coin a
mike Ben's phrase, it's the

802
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,240
blob, and they are part of the
blob, and they've and they feel

803
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,180
that they're an important part
of it. So this has nothing to do

804
00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:52,600
with journalism. No, I'm sorry
it does. This is what they're

805
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,920
taught in Journalism School,

806
00:43:53,980 --> 00:43:56,980
John C Dvorak: Jesus nowadays.
JC, so, yes, yeah,

807
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,020
Adam Curry: this is and look at
the professor, Jeff Jarvis. No,

808
00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:05,100
not Jeff Jarvis, the other guy,
who's the that, who's the, ah,

809
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,840
who's the professor, who, who's

810
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,640
John C Dvorak: rosin. Rosen,

811
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,320
Adam Curry: yeah, Jay Rosen,

812
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,600
John C Dvorak: Jay Rosen, well,
Jarvis and Rosen are very

813
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,380
similar. I think Jarvis has been
same guy. I don't know if he's

814
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:19,080
what, they're the same guy,
basically, yes, the same basis,

815
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,160
basically the same guy.

816
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,140
Adam Curry: And, you know, and
they're out there teaching and

817
00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:27,020
also yelling because I followed
them, I think they're on

818
00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:32,000
Mastodon, like the New York
Times, dude, they put this Trump

819
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,980
travesty on page nine

820
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,320
John C Dvorak: once in a while.
It's knee jerk, yeah, well,

821
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,560
they're

822
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,740
Adam Curry: disappointed in the
New York Times because the New

823
00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:46,180
York Times didn't caught them
out.

824
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,680
John C Dvorak: Then there must
be reasons. There's a very

825
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,120
strong movement amongst supposed
journalists of Slant the news,

826
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,040
and they talk about it openly. I

827
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,620
Adam Curry: have a after you're
done with these. MSM, yeah,

828
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:00,120
because. The

829
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,400
John C Dvorak: rest of this is
Megan and her and her friend

830
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,540
that's that's on the show,
mocking the whole thing. And I

831
00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:09,060
kept these two clips because I
thought it was good enough that

832
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:12,420
it would be worth a listen. Poor
basil Hamden,

833
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:17,580
Unknown: pro tip, when your date
sounds more like the Inquisitor

834
00:45:17,580 --> 00:45:21,380
at a deposition and has her
handbag pointed at you just ask

835
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:26,900
you to speak into it a note of
caution before you, before you

836
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:30,500
offer your unvarnished It was
unbelievable. Like, yeah, would

837
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:32,120
you say yes, I would.

838
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Adam Curry: Hey, we should, you
know, can we do Pro Tip of the

839
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:42,640
day we get on that train, pro
tip and don't drink, like,

840
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,120
Unknown: don't get so, you know,
fuzzy that you're sort of like

841
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,480
spouting proudly what you're
doing. I mean, my favorite part

842
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,360
of that clip Megan is when he
says, We're dumbing our audience

843
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,840
down. Like this is the
viewership that likes to feel

844
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,380
like they're so high on their
own supply of, like, moral self

845
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:03,900
righteousness. Uh, Pot, kettle
black, hello, and that every

846
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:07,320
political position that's
espoused by this network, that's

847
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,440
Adam Curry: exactly what Megyn
Kelly does, is exactly the same

848
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,720
thing, only she's a podcaster,
only

849
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,900
Unknown: true and correct one,
and he's basically saying, we've

850
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,320
we've done them down, and we've
brainwashed them, and it's good

851
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,220
for us. And it's, you know,
like, let's just not get Trump

852
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:26,360
elected. It's and the way he
said, like he's smiling, he's

853
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,480
like, he thinks it's funny. He's
kind of proud of it. It seems

854
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,660
like, I mean it like I could
watch that thing on a loop. It's

855
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:33,440
amazing.

856
00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:37,340
This is all I could think of a
couple of months ago when they

857
00:46:37,340 --> 00:46:41,440
were all indignant about Ronna
McDaniel being hired as a

858
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,820
contributor after she left the
RNC, and they acted like the

859
00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:50,260
devil himself had been under
contract now to MS, they all

860
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,200
went on the air trying to get
her fired, which was ultimately

861
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,760
successful, talking about
themselves and their network

862
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,440
like they were honest, Abe
themselves. They, you know, like

863
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,160
George Washington, we cannot
tell a lie. Here at MSNBC, we

864
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:10,380
could not possibly hire someone
who lies from pay. Remember, we

865
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:12,300
cut this sound bite and I
resurrected here.

866
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:15,480
Adam Curry: You know the thing,
the thing that gets me is that

867
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,080
in this culture war economy,
Megyn Kelly on the front lines,

868
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:25,220
if, she would talk about
something else, anything but,

869
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,320
but playing, you know, MSNBC
clips and the outrage, then no

870
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,280
one would see it. It's because
of

871
00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:37,520
John C Dvorak: this. Yes, this
about, Is this, like log

872
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:43,600
rolling? Yes, it's like, it's,
it's called modeling post modern

873
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,900
versus modern of log rolling. It
is, yeah, because it's like,

874
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:50,740
Hey, you want go watch MSNBC.
Wait a minute. What? What?

875
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,140
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Oh,
wait, you don't have to. I'll

876
00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:53,920
play a clip.

877
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,080
John C Dvorak: So here's the
clip she plays, which I thought

878
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,960
was a good clip, because it was
we played this clip before. But

879
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,000
it's, I like it, because the
very last thing that's said on

880
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,460
the clip is it makes it worth
playing again.

881
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:07,920
Unknown: I want to associate
myself with all my colleagues,

882
00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:12,840
both at MSNBC and at NBC News,
who have voiced loud and

883
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,980
principled objections to our
company putting on the payroll,

884
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:21,980
someone who hasn't just attacked
us as journalists, but someone

885
00:48:21,980 --> 00:48:24,800
who is part of an ongoing
project to get rid of our system

886
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,400
of government.

887
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:28,520
We weren't asked our opinion of
the hiring, but if we were, we

888
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,080
would have strongly objected to
it

889
00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:34,520
when NBC made the decision to
give her NBC News's credibility,

890
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,580
you got to ask yourself, what
does she bring? NBC News,

891
00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:40,640
we welcome Republican. I wish
more Republican. I want Adam

892
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,360
Kinzinger and Liz Cheney to get
right here and come talk to me.

893
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,260
The reality is, this isn't a
difference of opinion. She

894
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:52,000
literally backed an illegal
scheme to steal

895
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,680
an election in the state of
Michigan,

896
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,800
and our democracy is in danger
because of the lies that people

897
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,020
like Ronna McDaniel have pushed
on this country,

898
00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:03,720
not just they can do that on our
airwaves, but if they can do

899
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:09,420
that as one of us carrying
employees of NBC News, hey,

900
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:12,420
contributors to our sacred
airwaves? Oh,

901
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:13,020
Adam Curry: yeah, that was

902
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,860
John C Dvorak: we did airway
airwaves.

903
00:49:17,340 --> 00:49:20,100
Adam Curry: And of course, we're
also participating in this

904
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:21,560
scandalous behavior,

905
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,120
John C Dvorak: yeah, no, we're
log rolling.

906
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:24,560
Adam Curry: We are log rolling
now. We

907
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,440
John C Dvorak: don't get any
rollback. They don't plug us.

908
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,860
There's

909
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:31,400
Adam Curry: no backlinks, man,
no ping backs, no ping backs. I

910
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,500
John C Dvorak: should probably
stop doing these clips, so

911
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:35,900
Adam Curry: the turn Yes. Well,
if we stop doing these clips,

912
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:36,680
there'd be no show,

913
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:41,020
John C Dvorak: except we know.
We just know those clips. I just

914
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:44,260
played those three clips of
Megan, the guy, and we could, if

915
00:49:44,260 --> 00:49:46,060
I took those out of the show,
there would still be a

916
00:49:46,060 --> 00:49:48,760
Adam Curry: show. Yeah, okay, it
would be three minutes shorter.

917
00:49:49,780 --> 00:49:51,880
John C Dvorak: It'd be three
minutes shorter. It's about the

918
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,620
difference. So here's, it's
probably good.

919
00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:56,080
Adam Curry: Here's the term,
here's the term, the term, and

920
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,320
just as we were talking about
with Rosen and Jarvis, the term

921
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,740
is, it's. Sane washing? Yes, we
have a term over here at CNN,

922
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,100
there's a

923
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,980
Unknown: new word being used in
this campaign, or at least new

924
00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:11,640
to me, sane washing. And that's
the notion that the media

925
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,180
actually, contrary to what Brian
said, the media is cleaning up

926
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,600
some of Trump's more outlandish
remarks. For instance, here's

927
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,220
Trump this week talking about a
person in this country illegally

928
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,480
who killed someone.

929
00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:28,880
She murdered him. In my opinion,
Kamala murdered him just like

930
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,400
she did, just like she had a gun
in her hand,

931
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,500
but he but here was the AP
headline about the speech Trump

932
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:40,420
rallies in Wisconsin's critical
Democratic stronghold ahead of

933
00:50:40,420 --> 00:50:45,040
the vice presidential debate, no
mention of Trump accusing his

934
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,860
opponent, Vice President Harris,
of, in effect, murder.

935
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:48,940
Adam Curry: Oh no,

936
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Unknown: what?

937
00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:51,760
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, yeah, that

938
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,880
John C Dvorak: it now you got
you bordering on making a that,

939
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,540
that clip. Well, there's another
we should talk about insane.

940
00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:00,600
This should be insane washing.

941
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,120
Adam Curry: Is the second half
is the

942
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Unknown: media sanewashing Some
of Trump's comments,

943
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:10,140
I think it is the role of the
media to report on what happens.

944
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:13,440
I do not think it is the role of
the media to tell people how

945
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,320
they should feel about it. And I
think right now, there is a lot

946
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,860
of befuddlement on the part of
people don't like Donald Trump.

947
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:22,940
Anybody could possibly want to
see Donald Trump back in the

948
00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:25,280
White House. And so they're
looking for reasons to say,

949
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,880
Well, gosh, maybe it's just that
the 47% of America that likes

950
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,120
Donald Trump and wants to vote
for him again is just they've

951
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,820
become immune to the idea that
he's crazy and it's the media's

952
00:51:34,820 --> 00:51:37,160
fault. But it is really that a
lot of Americans have just

953
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,560
decided, You know what, I'm
willing to take the good with

954
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,340
the bad, and for them, they
think no amount of crazy is too

955
00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:42,820
much.

956
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,220
John C Dvorak: So wait so, so
Trump, in his speech, delivers

957
00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:54,160
what's more or less a metaphor
by making the claim that Kamala

958
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,160
is the murderer for letting a
murderer murder. Yeah, it was

959
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,720
Adam Curry: very similar, more
or less, Trump incited an

960
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,720
insurrection kind of the same
thing. Yeah.

961
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:09,960
John C Dvorak: So, so that is,
somehow, that should be report.

962
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,480
I don't understand what they're
trying to tell us here. They're

963
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,760
Adam Curry: trying to get a word
into the dictionary so they can

964
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,760
say, Well, we did it. Has word
of the year. Well,

965
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,860
John C Dvorak: by the way,
that's a very important thing.

966
00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:23,660
I've always this been one of my
is that one of your goals? Yeah,

967
00:52:23,660 --> 00:52:26,360
everybody, everyone who's ever
been a writer, always has that.

968
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:26,720
Well,

969
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,640
Adam Curry: we might, we just
might get douchebag, oh, a

970
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,180
douchebags already in there bags
and is and is there any word

971
00:52:32,180 --> 00:52:35,660
that we, that we can get, we can
promote to get into the

972
00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:39,320
John C Dvorak: dictionary. Have
to look new. We have the top my

973
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:39,680
head, like,

974
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:46,960
Adam Curry: you know, we've got
some, we got some. So sane wash

975
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:53,260
this. Trump did a return to
Butler, Pennsylvania, big crowd.

976
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:56,440
What I could see, I don't know
how many people, a big crowd. It

977
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,780
was just a couple of clips
showing it was a big crowd. It

978
00:52:58,780 --> 00:53:04,020
was big crowd. And brings out
Elon Musk, yeah, who is jumping

979
00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:06,540
around like a like a maniac.
It's

980
00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:07,380
John C Dvorak: like a spaz.

981
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,120
Adam Curry: Like, like a spaz.
And here was the core of what he

982
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,980
said for tech billionaire

983
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:16,500
Unknown: Elon Musk, it was the
first appearance at a Trump

984
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:19,920
rally. He urged listeners to
tell everyone they knew to

985
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,660
register to vote and framed the
election as a last stand for

986
00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:24,800
American democracy.

987
00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:26,180
I'm dark mega

988
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,600
Adam Curry: What's this dark
Maga nonsense?

989
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,820
John C Dvorak: I think. What is
that? I don't know if he said

990
00:53:31,820 --> 00:53:36,140
dark or Darth. No, I think he
said dark. Well, if you said

991
00:53:36,140 --> 00:53:40,820
dark or Darth, that's because he
had a black Maga hat. Oh, okay.

992
00:53:40,820 --> 00:53:45,160
Oh, and it said it was, it was a
black hat, and in black threads,

993
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,820
it said, Make America great. He
said, dork, Maga, dork, mag and

994
00:53:48,820 --> 00:53:53,020
then he had a shirt on that
said, occupy Mars. Yeah, yeah.

995
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,320
Okay. He's, he's being himself,
but I like the hat.

996
00:53:57,340 --> 00:53:59,680
Adam Curry: Well, no, I don't
like the hat because it's off

997
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,760
brand the hat. You cannot like
that. I like that. It's off

998
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,480
brand.

999
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:06,000
John C Dvorak: This reminds,
well, it is off brand. But this

1000
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:15,660
reminds me of years ago I went
to a raider Kansas City game,

1001
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:20,240
and because the Raider fans are
kind of insane, and they would

1002
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:23,060
beat you up if you were like,
wearing Kansas City colors at a

1003
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:26,120
game like this. Oh, and so I was
sitting next to something, and

1004
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:32,420
he had the black Raider colors,
but on the Raider sweater shirt

1005
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:36,200
sweatshirt, it was actually said
Kansas City Chiefs in the Raider

1006
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,520
colors. And it was very cute.
And I said, That's a great idea.

1007
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,960
Says You better believe it. You
have to be careful around here.

1008
00:54:44,620 --> 00:54:49,180
So that's what he was doing with
the black hat. I equated it with

1009
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:52,240
that sort of thinking, Okay,
well, back to dork Maga and

1010
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,820
Unknown: frames the election as
a last stand for American

1011
00:54:54,820 --> 00:54:55,480
democracy.

1012
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:56,800
Dark mega

1013
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,920
text, people now.

1014
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:09,960
Now and then make sure they
actually do vote. If they don't,

1015
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,220
this will be the last election.
That's my prediction.

1016
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,240
Adam Curry: Nothing's more
important this last election

1017
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,860
John C Dvorak: thing, yeah, it's
getting on my nerves, too. Yeah,

1018
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,220
well,

1019
00:55:22,220 --> 00:55:27,200
Adam Curry: so in my general
sphere, we have a family member

1020
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:34,820
who exclusively watches MSNBC is
completely that's okay, because

1021
00:55:34,820 --> 00:55:37,400
we all love each other, and we
could just say we're not gonna

1022
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:44,080
talk politics and completely
believes that, you know, Trump

1023
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,820
will destroy the Constitution,
rip it up, that he's going to do

1024
00:55:48,820 --> 00:55:53,260
away with democracy. There will
be no elections. So this is now

1025
00:55:53,260 --> 00:55:58,240
playing on both sides. As an
aside from the circles here in

1026
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,400
the hill country, I can tell
you, the latest meme is, there's

1027
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,580
not going to be an election this
year, because they're going to

1028
00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:11,640
bring down the grid, I know.

1029
00:56:12,660 --> 00:56:15,840
John C Dvorak: And this spreads
getting better by the minute.

1030
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,620
This spreads

1031
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:18,480
Adam Curry: like and you know,
people are asking me, How should

1032
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:24,560
I get a sat phone? So who you
gonna call? If the grid is down,

1033
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,580
who are you gonna call? We

1034
00:56:25,580 --> 00:56:29,840
John C Dvorak: gonna call you
this year. You have a did you

1035
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,280
tell him to get a ham radio?

1036
00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:34,760
Adam Curry: You know, I have
received multiple inquiries from

1037
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,800
people about ham radios. Yeah, I
have to say, Hey, what should I

1038
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,920
get? I said, first you need a
license.

1039
00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:46,300
John C Dvorak: I never thought
about that. Yeah, well, the list

1040
00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:49,540
you need a license. Just get a
license. Everybody

1041
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:53,440
Adam Curry: knows it's to get
your technicians. Ham radio

1042
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:59,200
operator license is incredibly
simple. You go to a rrl.org, you

1043
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,660
look for technicians license,
and you'll find out where the

1044
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:06,540
test is usually done once a
month, and in your area, it's

1045
00:57:06,540 --> 00:57:09,720
going to be a bunch of hams who
administer the test, I think

1046
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:17,340
they're called VAs and and they
give you the exact questions for

1047
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:21,380
that month's test, with all the
answers and multiple choice. The

1048
00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:24,620
only thing is, the answers will
be in a different order on the

1049
00:57:24,620 --> 00:57:26,660
John C Dvorak: test. Well,
there'll also be different

1050
00:57:26,660 --> 00:57:27,440
questions. No,

1051
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,340
Adam Curry: they might all the
but you get all the questions.

1052
00:57:31,340 --> 00:57:31,700
No, all

1053
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:35,000
John C Dvorak: the questions are
there, yeah, but they may just

1054
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,020
as an example. Say, for example,
the test has 100 questions.

1055
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,880
They'll give you 150 questions
with all the answers and

1056
00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:46,000
questions, and if you can
remember all of those, you can

1057
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,460
take the test and easily pass
it. Yes, correct.

1058
00:57:48,460 --> 00:57:50,740
Adam Curry: See as you don't get
all of them. That's right, but

1059
00:57:50,740 --> 00:57:52,720
you get all of them on the
tests.

1060
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,200
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you get all
of them from the sample. There's

1061
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,160
no surprise question, no, no,
like you get at the DMV and I

1062
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,640
Adam Curry: and here's an
example of a question, should

1063
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:07,320
you think about putting an
antenna up during a lightning

1064
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,500
storm? I think that was one of
the, I

1065
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:11,580
John C Dvorak: don't remember
that. I

1066
00:58:11,580 --> 00:58:14,820
Adam Curry: think it was one of
the questions, maybe for Texas.

1067
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,360
But there's, it really is quite
simple. And then you can get a

1068
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320
Bao Fang, or any of these
radios, and you can do it away,

1069
00:58:21,380 --> 00:58:21,680
by the

1070
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,460
John C Dvorak: way, if you're a
computer guy, and most of our

1071
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:29,300
lot of our audience are dudes
named Ben, you already know the

1072
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:31,400
answers. Don't most of these
questions, because there are a

1073
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,820
lot of them are just technical,
technical questions that you

1074
00:58:34,820 --> 00:58:38,180
would know normally in your day
to day life.

1075
00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:41,860
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so then
all you need to figure out is

1076
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:46,300
how a repeater works. That's
what saved. Let's save lives in

1077
00:58:46,660 --> 00:58:49,840
in North Carolina. And what I
would recommend for the

1078
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,500
computer, guys and gals, is
learn how to use one of these

1079
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:59,020
digital programs, because with
very, very low output and a wire

1080
00:58:59,020 --> 00:59:01,860
hung up in a tree, you can
actually get a lot done,

1081
00:59:02,220 --> 00:59:04,500
John C Dvorak: just don't put
the wire up during an electrical

1082
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,360
storm. That's uh, answer

1083
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,280
Adam Curry: D on question 79
Yeah,

1084
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,880
John C Dvorak: yeah, yes. People
have to realize that the

1085
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,900
question and there are tests,
there are online tests, and you

1086
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:22,340
go to one of those, you don't
take, don't read the long book.

1087
00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:26,660
There's like an A, I think aarl
has, God no, no, giant book that

1088
00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:29,960
you're supposed to read. Don't
read the book. Go to one of the

1089
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:35,480
online, this is like Tip of the
Day. Go to one of the online Q

1090
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,360
and A's, and they'll give you
the this month's, this month's

1091
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,740
or this quarter's questions, and
one after the after the other,

1092
00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:44,440
after the other, and then it
gives you a grade. And you keep

1093
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,200
taking the test over and over
and over again. You could take

1094
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600
it maybe five or six. You can
take as many times as you want,

1095
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,840
but after about the fourth time,
you'll get you'll get it more

1096
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,080
than your than your passing
grade. And then you can go take

1097
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,600
the test and you'll just pass.
Yeah, and do it now.

1098
00:59:58,660 --> 00:59:59,800
Adam Curry: Don't wait. Do it
now.

1099
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,780
John C Dvorak: Let's do it now.
I

1100
01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:03,300
Adam Curry: agree. Have you
renewed your license? Yeah, I

1101
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:04,860
John C Dvorak: renewed it months
and months. Oh, good, yeah,

1102
01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:05,400
good, good. I

1103
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,360
Adam Curry: just want to make
sure.

1104
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,300
John C Dvorak: No, I told people
to remind me, and I find I did

1105
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:12,300
it and and it would. There was
something. I had a story about

1106
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,000
it too. There was some screwy
thing about it. Oh, renewing.

1107
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,700
Oh, really, yeah, I talked about
on the show. And I can't

1108
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:19,860
remember what it was, but
there's some number. There was

1109
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:22,160
some I thought was like, well,
this doesn't make any sense, but

1110
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:22,640
okay,

1111
01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:26,240
Adam Curry: they charge you more
money. No, there's, I

1112
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,280
John C Dvorak: don't even think
it was. I think it was, it may

1113
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,540
have been free, but there was
some, some mishap that was

1114
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:34,520
involved in irksome

1115
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,540
Adam Curry: while we're kind of
on, although we've moved off, a

1116
01:00:38,540 --> 01:00:43,420
little bit about about social
media. I'm not quite sure what

1117
01:00:43,420 --> 01:00:46,600
Hillary Clinton was. First of
all, she was on smirconish,

1118
01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:50,680
smirconish. And I guess she's,
she's plugging her book,

1119
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:54,820
smirconish, you know, CNN,
Smerconish, who's this supposed

1120
01:00:54,820 --> 01:01:03,180
to be kind of easy douche, MER
dosh ish and, and I think this

1121
01:01:03,180 --> 01:01:07,680
is a message to the social media
companies. I'm not quite sure

1122
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,720
it's like a pressure campaign or
it has to have something to do

1123
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,120
with the elections, otherwise,
why would she even be

1124
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,660
interviewed? So it's about kids
and social media, as you

1125
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:21,680
Unknown: rightly point out,
Michael in the book, I write

1126
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,560
about how I don't think our kids
are all right because I think

1127
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,040
they become addicted to social
media. I think the phones in

1128
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:33,140
their pockets or their purses
have a huge impact on how they

1129
01:01:33,140 --> 01:01:36,440
spend their time, whether they
interact with other people. And

1130
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,320
now we know that very often kids
are affected by anxiety or

1131
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:47,380
depression, or, you know, all
kinds of problems that are at

1132
01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:52,000
least connected to, if not
caused by this addiction to the

1133
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,500
screen. So

1134
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:56,860
I was happy to see you cite the
work of Robert Putnam. Bowling

1135
01:01:56,860 --> 01:02:00,540
Alone made an impact on me, the
discussion of social capital, of

1136
01:02:00,540 --> 01:02:04,020
the sort that I'm sure the
rodhams enjoyed in Park Ridge,

1137
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:07,380
right? Participation, belonging,
volunteerism.

1138
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,260
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
that the rodhams enjoyed in Park

1139
01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:12,780
Ridge? What is that? Is that,
where she grew up, in Park

1140
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:13,320
Ridge,

1141
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,560
John C Dvorak: I You got me. All
I know is there's nothing wrong

1142
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,940
with bowling alone if you're a
bowler that is so miserable.

1143
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:24,560
Unknown: Jonathan Haidt. You
cite gene twangy. Here's what

1144
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,620
disappoints me, and it's not
about you, madam, Secretary, I'm

1145
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:31,160
shocked that no person, no
Republican, no democrat, is

1146
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,120
championing this issue. The
Social Science is so clear. The

1147
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,360
Political Science is so clear.
Our fabric is frayed as a

1148
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,020
nation. Our kids are
disconnected too much time

1149
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:44,980
behind closed doors on devices,
and not enough time replicating

1150
01:02:44,980 --> 01:02:47,320
the experience of their parents
and grandparents.

1151
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,900
Adam Curry: Okay, so that's kind
of the setup, but then she

1152
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:52,960
hammers it home. And here, I
think, is the is the threat,

1153
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:53,320
you're

1154
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:56,260
Unknown: absolutely right. This
should be at the top of every

1155
01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:00,240
legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things

1156
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:00,480
done,

1157
01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:03,840
Adam Curry: we should. That's
interesting. Legislative

1158
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:08,280
political agenda, not
legislative health agenda.

1159
01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:11,760
Legislative political agenda.

1160
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,700
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's an
interesting catch. Yeah,

1161
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:16,980
Adam Curry: that and I just
heard this now. Oh, wait a

1162
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:19,560
minute, you don't actually care
about the kids unless they're

1163
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,620
voting, which they're too young
for. You're

1164
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,560
Unknown: absolutely right. This
should be at the top of every

1165
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,460
legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things

1166
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:32,300
done. We should be, in my view,
repealing something called

1167
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:36,980
Section 230 which gave, you
know, platforms on the internet,

1168
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,420
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, and
back it up. The what because of

1169
01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:45,400
what you just caught, the
Democrats have captured the

1170
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,560
educational system of primary
education, secondary education

1171
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,880
and colleges of all as
brainwashing tools. Yes, for

1172
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,560
political purposes, they lost
this one, and now this what,

1173
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,760
this is, what she's really
talking about. This is a an

1174
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,420
element of control that they
don't have control of, and they

1175
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:09,480
lost it. And this is where she
where she's all freaked out

1176
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,480
Unknown: playing something
called Section 230 which gave,

1177
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:16,440
you know, platforms on the
internet immunity, because they

1178
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,080
were thought to be just pass
throughs that they shouldn't be

1179
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,360
judged for the content that is
posted. But we now know that

1180
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,620
that was an overly simple view,
that if the platforms, whether

1181
01:04:27,620 --> 01:04:31,160
it's Facebook or Twitter, x or
notice

1182
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,560
Adam Curry: Facebook comes
first, because, you know,

1183
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,660
Zuckerberg is now turned into a
bro. Zuckerberg, he's got his

1184
01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:41,680
hairs all along. He no longer
has that Caesar, that dorky

1185
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:47,920
Caesar cut. He's got long bro
hair. He's doing Taekwondo. He's

1186
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,900
John C Dvorak: like ketamine to
me

1187
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,920
Unknown: full view that if the
platforms, whether it's Facebook

1188
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,560
or Twitter, x or Instagram or
Tiktok, whatever they are, if

1189
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,620
they don't. Moderate and monitor
the content, we lose total

1190
01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:08,580
control. And it's not just
social and psychological

1191
01:05:08,580 --> 01:05:13,800
effects. It's real harm. It's,
you know, child porn and threats

1192
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,460
of violence.

1193
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,080
John C Dvorak: We lose total
control. Yeah, it's not that we

1194
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,940
lose we're losing control the
way she phrases it, we lose

1195
01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:26,000
total control, because right now
they have total control over the

1196
01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:27,740
mechanism of information

1197
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,700
Adam Curry: we have Yes, yes,
exactly. And so we were losing

1198
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:32,000
our

1199
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,240
John C Dvorak: total she should
have said, Are we lose this?

1200
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:38,420
We're losing total control.
Should be we're losing our total

1201
01:05:38,420 --> 01:05:42,700
control over the information
flow. She freaked out about

1202
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:46,420
Adam Curry: it. Yes, yes, and
mainly about Zuckerberg. We lose

1203
01:05:46,420 --> 01:05:50,080
Unknown: total control. And it's
not just the social and

1204
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,580
psychological effects. It's real
harm. It's, you know, child porn

1205
01:05:54,580 --> 01:05:59,500
and threats of violence, things
that are terribly dangerous. So

1206
01:05:59,740 --> 01:06:03,180
I couldn't agree with you more,
we need to remove the immunity

1207
01:06:03,180 --> 01:06:06,360
from liability, and we need to
have guard rails. We need

1208
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,620
regulation. We

1209
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,180
Adam Curry: need to remove the
immunity from liability, okay?

1210
01:06:12,180 --> 01:06:15,540
So that can be like, Okay, now I
understand what she's saying, by

1211
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:16,500
the way, yeah,

1212
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,380
John C Dvorak: I I've been on
Twitter since, I don't know,

1213
01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:25,280
2007 or something like your OG.
I'm an ODE close to it. I have

1214
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:31,160
never seen child porn on
Twitter, ever. I've never seen

1215
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,880
it on Instagram. I've never seen
it on Facebook. I don't have a

1216
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,540
Facebook account, but I can
sneak it on there sometimes, and

1217
01:06:38,540 --> 01:06:42,220
or somebody else's account. And
I've never seen i She's talking

1218
01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:42,580
about

1219
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,080
Adam Curry: frazzle drip. I

1220
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,960
Unknown: couldn't agree with you
more. We need to remove the

1221
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,380
immunity from liability, and we
need to have guard rails. We

1222
01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:55,120
need regulation. We've conducted
this big experiment on ourselves

1223
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,780
and particularly our kids, and I
think the evidence is in that

1224
01:06:58,780 --> 01:06:59,920
we've got to do more.

1225
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got to do
more. Yeah. NPR had a very,

1226
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:09,540
very, just, very short clip
here. About as it pertains to

1227
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:11,700
social media, another new term.

1228
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:14,520
Unknown: Researchers have found
a phenomenon called belief

1229
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,340
regression. It's when a
correction to misinformation

1230
01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:19,920
works really well in the short
term, but over

1231
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,900
time, people's belief kind of
creeps towards these pre

1232
01:07:23,900 --> 01:07:28,100
correction levels, and what we
found is it's mostly down to

1233
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:28,520
memory.

1234
01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:31,880
So it's worth repeating that
corrections to misinformation

1235
01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:33,380
are worth repeating.

1236
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,600
Adam Curry: NPR, all

1237
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,220
John C Dvorak: of hammer them.
Hammer them again, all of them.

1238
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:43,780
All of them.

1239
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,840
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Well, it's all kind of fun

1240
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,380
for the show. For the show, it's
great fun. I got a boots on the

1241
01:07:56,380 --> 01:08:02,100
ground from Dame aquamarine, and
she says, You know, I'm an avid

1242
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,140
reader who's been reading
popular fiction. Have been a

1243
01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:06,960
member of book clubs in two
different states, in both public

1244
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,440
library and private groups for
over 10 years. I hate to say it,

1245
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,620
but I believe. And she says, The
Norman Lear foundation, but it

1246
01:08:13,620 --> 01:08:17,100
could be in any it's it's, well,
actually, I said I would read

1247
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:19,440
this because you would be able
to explain it better. Because

1248
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:22,220
about publishing, the Norman
Lear Foundation has infiltrated

1249
01:08:22,220 --> 01:08:24,860
popular literature in the
offices of the editors and the

1250
01:08:24,860 --> 01:08:30,800
offices of the booksellers.
Examples below. It used to be

1251
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,200
that a book might contain
characters or situations that

1252
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,360
were thought provoking and would
add to the story. Now, the

1253
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,300
subjects seem to be added for no
real reason other than to

1254
01:08:38,300 --> 01:08:42,100
mention them. The Hunting Party
by Lisa Foley, climate change

1255
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:45,820
mentioned often, and I mean
often I get it. It's hot and dry

1256
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:50,560
in Ireland in the summer, the
measure, by Nikki Elric, a lot

1257
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,020
is made of the lesbian
relationship between two of the

1258
01:08:53,020 --> 01:08:55,840
main characters. It was not just
the mention of the relationship,

1259
01:08:56,140 --> 01:08:59,680
but discussing the relationship
over and over again, also

1260
01:08:59,860 --> 01:09:03,480
climate change and interracial
relationships. And my favorite,

1261
01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:08,580
she says, mad Honey by Jodi pilk
Pikul and Jennifer Finney,

1262
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,200
Bolin, boilin, I could only get
through 150 pages, and in that

1263
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,440
150 pages, the following
subjects were included in the

1264
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:20,100
story, suicide, domestic abuse,
anger management, climate

1265
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:23,720
change, chan transgenderism,
gender reassignment at a young

1266
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,420
age, interracial marriage,
lesbianism, gay marriage,

1267
01:09:26,420 --> 01:09:30,560
police, oppression of blacks and
alcoholism. I used to enjoy

1268
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,320
Jodie picoul As an author, and
enjoyed many of her previous

1269
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,740
books. They were formulaic, but
they were enjoyable. During this

1270
01:09:36,740 --> 01:09:39,620
book, I felt lectured
constantly, especially if I

1271
01:09:39,620 --> 01:09:43,480
didn't agree. It was frustrating
to me a no agenda listener to

1272
01:09:43,480 --> 01:09:46,960
hear how other readers felt for
the author's views. I was in the

1273
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,720
lone voice when I brought up the
sterilization of long term

1274
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,880
mental health outcomes. So I
said, you know, John would know

1275
01:09:54,940 --> 01:09:56,860
what's wrong with the publishing
industry.

1276
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:00,720
John C Dvorak: Well, there's not
much to it. As. Just the people

1277
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,980
who do people it. They're not
well paid. And so it's like

1278
01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:11,340
journalists. You have a low paid
crowd that is a very socialist,

1279
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:15,840
because they want more money.
And they, they promote these

1280
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,720
ideas, and they, and there's a
group think the all the whole

1281
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,440
publishing company will probably
be is probably turned woke. I

1282
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,660
Adam Curry: was gonna say how
many publishing companies are?

1283
01:10:23,660 --> 01:10:26,120
There are, there are, there's
about

1284
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,860
John C Dvorak: 100 I guess are

1285
01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:28,820
Adam Curry: all of them woke?

1286
01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:32,360
John C Dvorak: I think most of
them are. Now, nowadays, yeah,

1287
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,600
it's like, the same as the
newspapers. Oh, yeah, the

1288
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,900
newspapers are. It's, there's no
difference. The newspapers are a

1289
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:41,500
publishing company only. They do
a different type of publishing.

1290
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:44,680
They publish a daily, yeah, a
daily tome. I mean, if you look

1291
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,560
at a newspaper that thinks the
size of a book often, if you put

1292
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,880
it and made it into pages, yeah?
So they're publishing books too,

1293
01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:57,280
in terms of volume of words,
and, yeah, they're all woke.

1294
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,860
It's because the low pay, I
think, has a lot to do with it.

1295
01:11:02,020 --> 01:11:06,720
Then they tend to be unionized
the newspapers, for sure, yeah,

1296
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,380
yeah, it's just, it's just the
people after

1297
01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:15,000
Adam Curry: Ford, Harley
Davidson, John Deere, Black and

1298
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,980
Decker. Now Toyota walking back
their diversity equity and

1299
01:11:19,980 --> 01:11:24,860
inclusion programs saying they
will no longer sponsor cultural

1300
01:11:24,860 --> 01:11:28,760
events and parades such as LGBTQ
plus pride.

1301
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,620
John C Dvorak: But I think, I
think it's less walking back and

1302
01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:36,440
more of them recognizing that
these things have become lewd

1303
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:43,000
events. Dale gay pride parade
used to be a kind of, you know,

1304
01:11:44,140 --> 01:11:48,040
people doing a parade in San
Francisco and elsewhere, yeah.

1305
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,920
And it was, you know, you bring
your kids. It was like a parade.

1306
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,040
It was kind of cute, but they
became lewd events where they

1307
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,760
had the guys, the last go round
they had in San Francisco, a

1308
01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:00,900
area where there was a bunch of
these plastic swimming pools.

1309
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:04,560
They're peeing on each other.
Yeah, got it, you know, you can,

1310
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:09,060
you're gonna sponsor that. This
is just a brand the state, brand

1311
01:12:09,060 --> 01:12:11,520
safety. What's that phrase that
is used all the time? Brand

1312
01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:14,820
safe, brand safety. Yeah,
there's not just not. These are

1313
01:12:14,820 --> 01:12:18,660
not brand safe events anymore.
So Toyota back out. It's not

1314
01:12:18,660 --> 01:12:22,220
because of, Oh, they've gone
anti dei it's because they've

1315
01:12:22,220 --> 01:12:24,860
gone they're brand safe, they're
the same as they are with

1316
01:12:24,860 --> 01:12:27,800
everything, and they're not
idiots. They're not going to be

1317
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,740
associated with a bunch of guys
peeing on each other in public.

1318
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:36,800
Adam Curry: Oh, what a loss for
the cause. They're Toyota's

1319
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:43,840
walking us back. Man, it's no
good. All right, so the dock

1320
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,760
workers strike ended very
abruptly, very quickly, with a

1321
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,540
lot of fuzz, as in, what really
happened? Dock

1322
01:12:52,540 --> 01:12:55,300
Unknown: workers across the
eastern United States on

1323
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:58,480
Thursday celebrated the news
that this week's strike was

1324
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,160
ending quickly. I'm happy for
them, so

1325
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,380
they can get back to work and
take care of their families. I

1326
01:13:02,380 --> 01:13:04,320
mean, they've been they been out
here for three days around the

1327
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,380
clock, so this is a good thing
for everybody. It's a good thing

1328
01:13:07,380 --> 01:13:10,020
for the state, the port and all
the members here and all their

1329
01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:11,220
families. The

1330
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:15,120
International longshoremen
Association launched their first

1331
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,800
walkout since 1977 after
negotiations stalled over union

1332
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,720
demands for significant wage
increases and protection against

1333
01:13:23,780 --> 01:13:29,300
automation related job loss, the
strike involved 45,000 workers

1334
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:34,400
and paralyzed ports. From Maine
to Texas, at least 45 container

1335
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,120
vessels unable to unload were
anchored outside the ports by

1336
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,040
Wednesday, up from just three
before the strike began,

1337
01:13:42,580 --> 01:13:45,640
analysts cautioned that a long
strike could pose a major

1338
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,660
economic headwind, leading to
shortages and raising prices at

1339
01:13:49,660 --> 01:13:53,500
a time when inflation has been
moderating. Under the tentative

1340
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:57,940
agreement, dockworkers will
receive a 62% salary increase

1341
01:13:57,940 --> 01:14:01,980
over six years. The Union and
the United States Maritime

1342
01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:05,520
Alliance have agreed to extend
the existing contract until

1343
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,960
January 15 while they negotiate
other outstanding issues.

1344
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:17,040
Adam Curry: So Daggett, whatever
his name is, he was very clear,

1345
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,980
77% five bucks across the board,
they settled for less for this

1346
01:14:21,980 --> 01:14:28,220
temporary halt, and just in
essence, punted it ahead until

1347
01:14:28,220 --> 01:14:32,240
after the election, right before
the insurrection can take place.

1348
01:14:32,780 --> 01:14:35,120
John C Dvorak: We have a boots
on the ground report from

1349
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,780
someone we do, who lives next
door to these people.

1350
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,640
Adam Curry: Oh, do you have it?
I don't have that. Yeah, I

1351
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:41,860
John C Dvorak: do. I thought you
had it. No, I

1352
01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:43,480
Adam Curry: don't. I don't.
Don't

1353
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:45,640
John C Dvorak: expose my
identity, please. I live in the

1354
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,220
got the home of mob union boss
Harold

1355
01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:51,700
Adam Curry: New Jersey. The guy
in New Jersey, yeah,

1356
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:55,480
John C Dvorak: yeah, was a boss
Harold, yeah, Daggett, along

1357
01:14:55,480 --> 01:15:01,800
with other execs of the ILA and
about 1.75 About 175 ILA

1358
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,640
employees. We are in the woods.
Harrah is going to retire this

1359
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,340
year. And he was told by many
around he has to do this strike

1360
01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:11,340
because he needs to beef up his
retirement, which I think sounds

1361
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:11,640
right.

1362
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,420
Adam Curry: How does the strike
beef up your retirement? Because

1363
01:15:15,420 --> 01:15:15,780
you

1364
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,540
John C Dvorak: when you retire,
you go out at a higher amount of

1365
01:15:18,540 --> 01:15:19,080
money. You get

1366
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,740
Adam Curry: a bigger percentage.
He already makes $800,000

1367
01:15:22,940 --> 01:15:26,060
John C Dvorak: he wants to make
more. Oh, please. It's still

1368
01:15:26,060 --> 01:15:28,880
going to be a percentage of it,
but I don't know. Maybe it's

1369
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,360
100% but I don't know what their
retirement looks like. He says

1370
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,880
Dennis will not be at the
negotiating table with Donald

1371
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,400
Trump. By the way, some of the
rank and file were letting me

1372
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,040
know that they did not support
the strike. They were required

1373
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,820
to be walking in circles with
signs they didn't like the

1374
01:15:42,820 --> 01:15:47,140
strike, and it says they were
pissed because Harold Dennis and

1375
01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:51,280
the other bigwoods continue to
get paid. No, okay, yeah, but

1376
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,300
they're, apparently they're both
Trump's. Everyone's a Trump

1377
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:59,320
supporter, including the rank
and file and these guys. And I

1378
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,880
think now this is, I gotta take
too much credit for this, for

1379
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,420
the show, but when we brought up
the fact that if they go on the

1380
01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:10,740
strike and meat is re is
reintroduced to the American

1381
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,880
public market, yeah, it will
lower the prices of beef, lower

1382
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,360
the price of groceries and and
inflation will go down, right?

1383
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,660
It will hurt with Trump. Can we
pay? We couldn't

1384
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:23,420
Adam Curry: have that. Okay,
okay, two things start to make

1385
01:16:23,420 --> 01:16:28,820
sense. One dag it. He needed to
go beyond January then, because,

1386
01:16:28,820 --> 01:16:33,860
oh, I'm retiring. So there's
that part solved. And then

1387
01:16:33,860 --> 01:16:38,300
indeed it would, it would. It
would actually benefit the the

1388
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:44,920
Harris campaign. But still, the
real issue here, it seems so

1389
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,800
obvious to me the deeper I look
into it, it's the automation

1390
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:48,160
part.

1391
01:16:48,940 --> 01:16:50,560
John C Dvorak: No, no, they
don't want that the point, but

1392
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,640
they have, we have to

1393
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,660
Adam Curry: have automation.

1394
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,720
John C Dvorak: It'll happen.
It'll be built in no matter what

1395
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,540
the how much noise they make
those it's the guy. What's going

1396
01:16:58,540 --> 01:17:03,780
to happen is the as the
employees, uh, kind of expire.

1397
01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:06,120
In other words, you know,
they've been there long enough,

1398
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,320
when they're removed, when they
quit, when they retire, the

1399
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,040
retire, their jobs will be
replaced by automation. So it's

1400
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:17,700
not going to hurt any current
employees the automation, yeah,

1401
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:21,560
I mean, because in China,
they're all those little, this

1402
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,800
crazy looking, I don't know what
to even call them these like, I

1403
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,140
don't know what to call them,
but they carry around the

1404
01:17:27,140 --> 01:17:30,560
containers around the yard. We
got, I got to know it from

1405
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,020
somebody else who said, you
know, this is we need

1406
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:36,020
automation, because you have to
time you you can't find your

1407
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:39,980
load. Nobody knows what the hell
is going on. No, you sit in your

1408
01:17:39,980 --> 01:17:41,440
truck driving around

1409
01:17:41,620 --> 01:17:44,800
Adam Curry: terrible. And if you
look at the Port of Rotterdam,

1410
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,400
that thing's almost completely
automated. They still have 4000

1411
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,640
5000 workers, but it's not
50,000 and and the and the whole

1412
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,880
idea of containers was
automation. It was stacking. It

1413
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:58,540
was simple.

1414
01:17:58,660 --> 01:18:01,080
John C Dvorak: That was the
idea, exactly standardized.

1415
01:18:01,140 --> 01:18:05,220
Container idea was, it was a
revolution, and it was largely

1416
01:18:05,220 --> 01:18:08,880
because of you could, you could
automate it, yeah, as opposed to

1417
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,880
loading, you know that you if
you looked at the old movies

1418
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,300
from the 50s, and you see the
how they loaded a ship with a

1419
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:19,680
bag full of shit, they dropped
it in the hole and sorted out.

1420
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,980
He was just a joke like compared
to today,

1421
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:27,320
Adam Curry: right? Just dropped.
The claw opened up. Good to go.

1422
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:35,540
Yeah. So anyway, the good news
is the economy's doing great. We

1423
01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:40,720
had 250,000 jobs. Of course, if
you look into the report, you

1424
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:46,240
see that 1.1 million citizens,
American citizens, lost their

1425
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:51,520
jobs. Or like, no, was it? It
was, it was some. It was like,

1426
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,740
most of the new jobs are by non
citizens. And I have no problem

1427
01:18:56,740 --> 01:19:00,360
with someone coming to America
to work, but we know that the

1428
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,520
zone was flooded, and we know
the whole point.

1429
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:04,680
John C Dvorak: Wait, hold on. I
said that doesn't make any sense

1430
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,820
with good paying union jobs as
all Biden never said, Get go

1431
01:19:08,820 --> 01:19:09,660
dignity.

1432
01:19:11,460 --> 01:19:17,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, here. So Biden
came into the into the briefing

1433
01:19:17,340 --> 01:19:20,720
room. Not Joe Biden, by the way,
as far as I'm concerned, this

1434
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:26,840
was daddy longlegs. The guy's
way too cognizant. He's, I mean,

1435
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,600
he has some of the same stumbles
that have been practiced over

1436
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,420
and over again. I just don't
think this is our president.

1437
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,640
Anyway. He came in and say,
That's all great

1438
01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:37,820
Unknown: times. Joe Biden,
President with a rare visit to

1439
01:19:37,820 --> 01:19:41,440
the White House briefing room to
hail. Good news on the economy,

1440
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:42,880
the nation is now created.

1441
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,120
Adam Curry: He has not been in
the briefing room since his ever

1442
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,680
see ever, maybe ever,

1443
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,220
John C Dvorak: that's not rare,
ever. First time, ever times

1444
01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:54,280
Unknown: Joe Biden the President
with a rare visit to the White

1445
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,580
House briefing room to hail.
Good news on the economy.

1446
01:19:57,700 --> 01:20:00,600
The nation has now created 16
million jobs. Have come to

1447
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,440
office, 254,000

1448
01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:07,260
of them added in September. The
unemployment rate of 4.1% near a

1449
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:12,600
50 year low. Wages rose 4% over
the past year, meaning paychecks

1450
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,680
are growing faster than overall
inflation, and the Dow closed

1451
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,840
today at a record high, gone
from

1452
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,340
economy in crisis to literally
have the strongest economy in

1453
01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:27,320
the world. We've got more work
to do more

1454
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,440
work, because many Americans
feel like they're struggling to

1455
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:34,220
make ends meet with rising
prices of groceries, housing and

1456
01:20:34,220 --> 01:20:35,060
childcare.

1457
01:20:35,180 --> 01:20:38,900
Feels like it's harder to live.
Everybody's scratching and

1458
01:20:38,900 --> 01:20:40,420
scraping just to live still,

1459
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:43,480
some say they're finally
starting to feel a difference.

1460
01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:47,680
I feel like it's it's getting
better, and one of the biggest

1461
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,040
risks to the economy, the port
strike has been resolved. For

1462
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,000
now, shippers and dock workers
agreed to an almost 62% pay

1463
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,600
raise, bringing longshoremen
back on the job, at least until

1464
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,560
January, when they've agreed to
bargain again over automation,

1465
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,160
ending the port strike critical
for the economy, and especially

1466
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,160
for small business like three
moms organics.

1467
01:21:08,220 --> 01:21:12,360
This is such a relief that
knowing that this is been worked

1468
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,900
out for at least now, takes a
lot of pressure off, especially

1469
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:16,380
because

1470
01:21:16,380 --> 01:21:18,840
Adam Curry: three moms organic
so they get all their crap from

1471
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,980
China. Is that? Is that why it's
so so good for no idea

1472
01:21:21,980 --> 01:21:23,240
Unknown: what they're going to

1473
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,460
the timing also key as the
southeast picks up the thesis

1474
01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:32,000
after Hurricane Helene and will
need significant rebuilding.

1475
01:21:32,660 --> 01:21:33,140
Yeah,

1476
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:35,660
John C Dvorak: there's a thing.
There was a thing in that report

1477
01:21:35,660 --> 01:21:38,840
where they said that
unemployment is 4.1% of 50 year

1478
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:46,600
low in recent memory, we heard
3.1 3.5 3.4 3.6 all within the

1479
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:51,160
last year, and now it's up to
4.1 how has that become a 50

1480
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,020
year low? Also

1481
01:21:53,020 --> 01:21:57,460
Adam Curry: to say that wages
have kept in in a in check with

1482
01:21:57,940 --> 01:22:02,580
inflation is a blatant lie. I
mean, oh, if you're talking

1483
01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:06,300
about money printing inflation,
okay, but if you're talking

1484
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:12,120
about the actual inflation of
prices, no, 4% is nowhere near

1485
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,640
what you need. No, you need 20%

1486
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,040
John C Dvorak: closer to it,
because they like to downplay,

1487
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,360
you know, they have to keep
reminding people that inflation

1488
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:28,160
is cumulative. Yes. So, yeah, it
comes down to say it's 2.1% but

1489
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,940
it was already nine and eight.
It's all adds up. It's like,

1490
01:22:32,060 --> 01:22:34,820
they never show you, and they
show a graph. It goes down to

1491
01:22:34,820 --> 01:22:37,400
whatever it is. Look at the
lines. Look at it pretty. Lines

1492
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,640
down. If you do cumulative,

1493
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:44,140
Adam Curry: we're feeling it. I
mean, everybody feels it. No,

1494
01:22:44,140 --> 01:22:44,860
I've noticed

1495
01:22:44,860 --> 01:22:49,960
John C Dvorak: my my when I go
to the vegetable store, fruit

1496
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:54,820
market, it's I used to pay for
the same old, same old stuff. I

1497
01:22:54,820 --> 01:22:59,380
always buy the same stuff. And
it was always like $30 and now

1498
01:22:59,380 --> 01:23:03,000
it's always $50 it's always
everything's 20 bucks more,

1499
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,920
yeah? For minimum, people

1500
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,200
Adam Curry: of Fredericksburg
don't even go downtown anymore.

1501
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,200
You want to, you want a glass of
wine? 27 Bucks what?

1502
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've heard
about some of these prices at

1503
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:17,040
bars for it's liquor. It's just
like every time somebody tells

1504
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:21,980
me one of these for a beer, like
16 bucks for a beer.

1505
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,760
Adam Curry: Yeah. So we have
what we have a royalty in town

1506
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:31,760
that probably here, Sir Mark and
Dame Astrid, the Grand Duke and

1507
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,820
Grand Duchess of Japan, and all
the islands surrounding the

1508
01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:39,740
Japan Sea, disputed, disputed.
Yes, the disputed islands. And

1509
01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:42,460
so we're going out to dinner
tonight, and then tomorrow night

1510
01:23:42,460 --> 01:23:45,640
we're cooking for them here. So
I'm making them pick up the bill

1511
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:52,840
for tonight. I can't afford it
anymore. I'm excited to see

1512
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,020
them. Tina says I should take a
look at some of their

1513
01:23:56,020 --> 01:23:59,320
architecture. Yo, I haven't
looked at their portfolio

1514
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:05,940
recently. Holy moly. I mean,
they did the Cartier store.

1515
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:07,320
Well, that

1516
01:24:08,340 --> 01:24:11,340
John C Dvorak: would be the type
to do that. The stuff they do is

1517
01:24:11,340 --> 01:24:15,900
so beautiful. Design your back
porch. Sorry, have them design,

1518
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:17,100
redesign your back porch. I

1519
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:20,760
Adam Curry: can't afford them to
design anything for me. They're

1520
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,020
going to come in. You just
wonder, what did two award?

1521
01:24:24,020 --> 01:24:26,660
Because they actually here
before they think they picked up

1522
01:24:26,660 --> 01:24:32,540
an award in Houston. And he has
an OBE for his architectural

1523
01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:35,660
work. He's like, almost an
actual Knight.

1524
01:24:37,940 --> 01:24:39,500
John C Dvorak: We're actual
knights.

1525
01:24:39,860 --> 01:24:42,880
Adam Curry: No, I mean British
night. You mean a British night?

1526
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,780
Yeah, no, no, obviously they're
not just knights. They're Grand

1527
01:24:46,780 --> 01:24:47,920
Duke and Grand Duchess. They're

1528
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,520
John C Dvorak: grand dukes. Much
bigger rank. Yes, much bigger

1529
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:51,940
rank.

1530
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,340
Adam Curry: But I'm just saying,
I think I'd come into our house,

1531
01:24:54,340 --> 01:24:56,560
and when you have these
architects who in the house,

1532
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,220
they look around, go,

1533
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,300
John C Dvorak: huh? Oh, yeah,
that's embarrassing. Person

1534
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:01,500
exactly

1535
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,200
Adam Curry: like, hmm, yeah, I
wouldn't have made that choice,

1536
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:05,340
yeah, okay,

1537
01:25:06,900 --> 01:25:08,700
John C Dvorak: put the window
there like that.

1538
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,820
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

1539
01:25:11,820 --> 01:25:14,040
courage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C in

1540
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,440
the container automation, say
hello to my friend on the other

1541
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:18,300
and the one and only, Mr. John C
tomorrow.

1542
01:25:24,380 --> 01:25:26,360
John C Dvorak: Good morning. You
Mr. Adam curry, the more ships

1543
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,820
and sea blues, telegraphing, the
air, subsidy, water and all the

1544
01:25:28,820 --> 01:25:30,680
games and nights out there. In
the morning,

1545
01:25:36,020 --> 01:25:41,920
Adam Curry: we got 2255 at the
peak. 2255 at the peak. This is

1546
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:46,120
why you say that's bad. It's low
200 it's low, it's low. We're

1547
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,140
low 200 we're low 200

1548
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it should
be 24

1549
01:25:49,660 --> 01:25:50,500
Adam Curry: Well, that's all
right,

1550
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,660
John C Dvorak: not Thursday.
Well, it's

1551
01:25:52,660 --> 01:25:54,760
Adam Curry: a tough times.
People don't have electricity.

1552
01:25:55,540 --> 01:25:56,440
Can't even listen to

1553
01:25:56,440 --> 01:25:58,420
John C Dvorak: this. Well,
that's true. We do. We have lost

1554
01:25:58,420 --> 01:25:59,260
the southeast.

1555
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,420
Adam Curry: Hey, we had a lot of
producers in the in the

1556
01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:09,780
Asheville area. Interestingly,
we did no no this, I'm getting

1557
01:26:09,780 --> 01:26:13,140
notes from people who are
interchanging notes with other

1558
01:26:13,140 --> 01:26:15,420
people. And actually, for the
first time, finding out that

1559
01:26:15,420 --> 01:26:19,560
they both listen to no agenda,
which is kind of Yeah, which is

1560
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:19,980
kind of

1561
01:26:19,980 --> 01:26:22,460
John C Dvorak: always funny,
yeah, you do What? What?

1562
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,820
Adam Curry: In the morning, in
the morning. So those trolls are

1563
01:26:28,820 --> 01:26:31,220
in the troll room, and they are
all listening live@trollroom.io

1564
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,120
or you can go to no agenda, dot
stream. Either one works

1565
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:40,040
perfectly fine. This is a 24/7
operation, though we come in on

1566
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,540
Thursdays and Sundays, and we
bring you our show live. We

1567
01:26:43,540 --> 01:26:46,300
start at one o'clock and we end
up whenever we're done, use

1568
01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:49,720
about three, three and a half
hours. And of course, you can

1569
01:26:49,780 --> 01:26:52,240
listen to it live right there on
the website, or you can get a

1570
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:56,260
modern podcast app. And I use
podcast guru these days, pretty

1571
01:26:56,260 --> 01:26:58,900
good. It'll give you an alert
when, when we go live right in

1572
01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:01,860
the app, you see, so it's a
boom, oh, it's live. And you

1573
01:27:01,860 --> 01:27:04,860
click on that, and you hear the
right away, you hear the stream.

1574
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,740
And if you miss the stream or
can't listen or your boss is

1575
01:27:07,740 --> 01:27:10,320
watching, don't worry about it.
The minute we publish, 90

1576
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,080
seconds later, you will be
alerted when the show is

1577
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,720
published, and most of the show
is actually through the podcast

1578
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,680
and 2.0 technology, along with
many other great features, such

1579
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,420
as transcripts, so English as a
second language, you can read

1580
01:27:23,420 --> 01:27:27,920
along as we speak. It'll even
end the transcripts now identify

1581
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,680
your name correctly, and they
spell your name correctly. The

1582
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:36,020
AI, the AI is improving. Okay,
good, yeah, it only took, what?

1583
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,260
18 months we're there. Finally,
the large language model. Years

1584
01:27:41,260 --> 01:27:45,700
the large language model has
figured it out. We run the show

1585
01:27:45,700 --> 01:27:50,500
value for value, which means
26th of October. It'll be 17

1586
01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:54,040
years that we have never had a
commercial. We've never taken

1587
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,460
any corporate money. It's all
been time talent and treasure

1588
01:27:57,460 --> 01:28:02,700
from our producers, which we're
very proud of. This someone sent

1589
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:07,980
me an early, early twit, a
couple of clips. I didn't keep

1590
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:11,340
them. I have them, but I didn't
bring them to the show. Um, when

1591
01:28:11,340 --> 01:28:15,180
Leo was still at the brick
house, I guess he's busy back at

1592
01:28:15,180 --> 01:28:18,000
the brick house now. Or, uh, no,
he's at home. He's in the

1593
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,400
garage. And you were on the
show. We were talking about

1594
01:28:22,820 --> 01:28:27,440
different business models of
podcasting, and it was so early,

1595
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:33,800
we weren't doing this show yet.
And no, I remember

1596
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,600
John C Dvorak: during the
cottage era when we weren't

1597
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,060
doing the show, but I think by
the time the brick house came

1598
01:28:38,060 --> 01:28:38,780
around, we will

1599
01:28:39,020 --> 01:28:41,200
Adam Curry: show it may have
been the cottage and maybe it

1600
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:47,020
wasn't the brick house. And you
guys were talking about, well,

1601
01:28:47,020 --> 01:28:50,980
what are the possible models?
And well, and Leo is like, Oh,

1602
01:28:50,980 --> 01:28:53,560
well, you know, we'll get enough
money for advertisers. That'll

1603
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,560
happen eventually. And there was
a lot of talk of donations. And

1604
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,380
it was kind of like, well, you
know, we can easily get everyone

1605
01:28:59,380 --> 01:29:06,420
to donate $4 dollars. It never
works. And we started that way

1606
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:10,080
too 17 years ago, like, hey, why
don't you? No, no, it doesn't

1607
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,620
work. When you ask people just
to send you value for the value

1608
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:17,280
received or the program. It's
amazing what happens. And I'm

1609
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,040
it's a revolutionary thought,
and I'm surprised that more

1610
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,360
people have not really picked up
on it. I mean this, there is,

1611
01:29:23,420 --> 01:29:23,600
you

1612
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,300
John C Dvorak: have to, have to
be lectured on it. I lectured

1613
01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:29,540
people on this because they all
say the same thing that what you

1614
01:29:29,540 --> 01:29:33,680
just expressed, which as well.
You know, I got, I got 10,000

1615
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:38,840
listeners. And if all of them
somehow, by the way, try 1% to

1616
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:43,120
think in those terms, yes, a
little closer to reality. Uh, if

1617
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,380
all of them gave me four bucks a
show, that would be $40,000 a

1618
01:29:47,380 --> 01:29:51,100
show. And I do a show a week
that's enough to get, I'll make

1619
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:55,180
a lot of money, and it's like
you won't get that's never going

1620
01:29:55,180 --> 01:29:56,020
to happen,

1621
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:59,740
Adam Curry: no. So we just only
have

1622
01:29:59,740 --> 01:30:02,460
John C Dvorak: 10. 1000, and you
leave it wide open so they can

1623
01:30:02,460 --> 01:30:06,720
donate what they want. Could be
four, could be 10, could be 100

1624
01:30:07,020 --> 01:30:11,820
could be 1000 there are people
that have enough disposable

1625
01:30:11,820 --> 01:30:13,620
income that they will gladly
give you $1,000

1626
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:18,300
Adam Curry: yeah, and that is
because Val value is different

1627
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:22,580
to them. That's what makes it so
beautiful. And also people can

1628
01:30:22,580 --> 01:30:25,640
just give us time and talent.
We, I don't think we have. We

1629
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,320
ever built a website for this
show? I can't, I can't recall

1630
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,580
ever building a website. Oh

1631
01:30:31,580 --> 01:30:32,840
John C Dvorak: yeah,
dvorak.org/in

1632
01:30:34,220 --> 01:30:36,980
Adam Curry: a we don't, we don't
have the password anymore, so we

1633
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:38,720
don't talk about that one. We

1634
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,940
John C Dvorak: don't talk about
dvorak.org/and I still play

1635
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:43,240
that. I

1636
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,100
Adam Curry: still play the
jingle at the end, just to irk

1637
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:46,480
you, because one day

1638
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:49,240
John C Dvorak: I just put it
forwarding. Oh, please.

1639
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,000
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Will you
have that done by the next show?

1640
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,160
It's so easy. You

1641
01:30:54,220 --> 01:30:56,620
John C Dvorak: just admit it. Is
this working? I can't hear

1642
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,720
Adam Curry: what you lost the
password. Just admit it. Hello.

1643
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:05,460
Put a blink tag in there. I'd be
very impressed.

1644
01:31:07,020 --> 01:31:08,880
John C Dvorak: That's I don't
think the blink tag works

1645
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,300
anymore. It doesn't. They got
rid of pretty sure it doesn't.

1646
01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:12,480
They

1647
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:15,360
Adam Curry: deprecated the blink
tag. I think they took it out.

1648
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,240
That's no good. Yeah, I'd

1649
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,860
John C Dvorak: rather have a
run. I like it where you have

1650
01:31:19,860 --> 01:31:22,520
the running cat going from one
side of the page to the other.

1651
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,740
That's my favorite good times.
The cat running back and forth.

1652
01:31:27,740 --> 01:31:32,240
And then there's a mailbox that
spins and opens and closes. And

1653
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,980
remember the little red flag
goes up

1654
01:31:33,980 --> 01:31:36,260
Adam Curry: and down? Don't you
remember the under construction

1655
01:31:36,260 --> 01:31:37,460
sign? Oh,

1656
01:31:37,460 --> 01:31:38,900
John C Dvorak: this is still
around the

1657
01:31:40,100 --> 01:31:46,660
Adam Curry: little yellow and
black construction wood. Our

1658
01:31:46,660 --> 01:31:49,600
website's coming. It's under
construction. We're building it.

1659
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,620
Yes, we're building it anyway.
So no, we haven't done that. And

1660
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:57,520
one of the many ways that people
contribute is through providing

1661
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,780
us of new album art for each and
every single episode, which is,

1662
01:32:01,140 --> 01:32:04,200
looks great in the in the
rundown of podcasts. It looks

1663
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,100
great for promoting the show. It
gives people a kick, and it's a

1664
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,700
fun little competition. And we
have some very serious I cleaned

1665
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:15,180
up the studio the other day, and
I found Mike Riley books. And

1666
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,380
just, we have so many, like the
we have a pro comic guy who

1667
01:32:19,380 --> 01:32:20,660
just, like, high end,

1668
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,940
John C Dvorak: oh, we have a
couple of high end comic guys,

1669
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:23,600
couple of them,

1670
01:32:23,780 --> 01:32:26,300
Adam Curry: and as like this.
And I keep all that stuff, of

1671
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:27,200
course, so they,

1672
01:32:27,260 --> 01:32:29,480
John C Dvorak: those guys don't
give us the art for the

1673
01:32:29,480 --> 01:32:31,820
Adam Curry: show. No, no, no,
no, they don't, but, but that's

1674
01:32:31,820 --> 01:32:36,140
the level that we have. Boy used
to, he used to, I, you know, I

1675
01:32:36,140 --> 01:32:39,080
put that in a box, and I'm like,
one day when I'm dead, my

1676
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,460
daughter's gonna come in here,
like, I gotta clean out this

1677
01:32:42,460 --> 01:32:43,720
junk and throw it

1678
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:47,620
John C Dvorak: out. Exactly what
this is to say. It might be

1679
01:32:47,620 --> 01:32:50,320
worth something, but some guys
scribble his name all over it.

1680
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:51,460
What good is that?

1681
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,700
Adam Curry: What are all these
coins? What are these coins of

1682
01:32:54,700 --> 01:33:00,700
all this different stupid coins?
These coins are no good. I got

1683
01:33:00,700 --> 01:33:05,100
stickers. I got all kinds. I can
just see her now, bring out one

1684
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:11,280
of those containers boys get rid
of this junk anyway. NOAA Art

1685
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,540
generator.com. Is the website we
can upload and participate in

1686
01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:19,380
this contest, which takes place
twice a week, and we want to

1687
01:33:19,380 --> 01:33:22,040
congratulate the artist who
brought us the artwork for

1688
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:27,380
episode 1700 of course, it was a
big episode for us, and

1689
01:33:27,380 --> 01:33:30,320
Francisco Scaramanga nailed it.

1690
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,380
John C Dvorak: Who hates us? By
the way, I don't understand that

1691
01:33:33,380 --> 01:33:34,700
he really hating art.

1692
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:39,380
Adam Curry: By the way, 1700 was
titled turban tossing. And I

1693
01:33:39,380 --> 01:33:43,240
think we should keep an eye on
that, because that will be, that

1694
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,300
will be the way the next it will
be the turbine tossing

1695
01:33:46,300 --> 01:33:49,720
revolution in Iran. And we'll
be, we have a boots on the

1696
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,440
ground from a dude named Bahamut
coming up after we thank some

1697
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:58,360
people here. So Francisco had an
automated containers, two robots

1698
01:33:58,540 --> 01:34:03,540
carrying a shipping container,
had 1700 on it. It was very

1699
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,320
traditional Scaramanga color
palette. I would say he has this

1700
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:12,960
kind of color palette with his
greenish background the letters

1701
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,620
that have that little what is
the look I'm looking at here?

1702
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,500
It's kind of washed out a
little. That's not the right

1703
01:34:21,500 --> 01:34:23,960
term. Are you looking at it?

1704
01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:28,460
John C Dvorak: Uh, I've got the
old look at it. What you're

1705
01:34:28,460 --> 01:34:31,400
talking about? What is this guy
talking about?

1706
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,480
Unknown: What am I talking Yeah,
he

1707
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:36,080
John C Dvorak: does have a is a
pasteli pastellian.

1708
01:34:36,140 --> 01:34:37,280
Adam Curry: That's what he is.
Yeah, he's

1709
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,100
John C Dvorak: a pastellian. And
so he's got the blue sky is kind

1710
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:44,620
of a pastel blue, pastel orange
containers, kind of a pastel

1711
01:34:44,620 --> 01:34:49,420
orange, yes, and that's good.
And then and the 17, yeah, it's,

1712
01:34:49,420 --> 01:34:56,320
it's got that, what would you
call that dirty, grungy, grungy,

1713
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:56,560
dirty,

1714
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:57,640
Adam Curry: grungy look, grungy,

1715
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,440
John C Dvorak: dirty numbers
that have been. Wore, shop worn,

1716
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:01,740
yes,

1717
01:35:01,740 --> 01:35:04,080
Adam Curry: and I can tell you
right now what I'm seeing coming

1718
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,020
in for this episode. We're going
to be looking for an evergreen

1719
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:11,220
once we said no Star Trek stuff.
Everyone gave up.

1720
01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:15,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it seems
like there's nothing here.

1721
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,240
Adam Curry: So keep trying. The
artists, they do this while

1722
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,480
they're listening live, which is
the beautiful thing about it.

1723
01:35:20,480 --> 01:35:22,700
There was she. Was there
anything else with a lot of

1724
01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:28,340
butts, a lot of 1700 a lot of
cheesecake? Was there anything

1725
01:35:28,340 --> 01:35:33,380
else that we like, I kind of
like, Nico sign signs, the

1726
01:35:33,380 --> 01:35:37,760
strike signs. But there was just
no doubt about it. Francisco

1727
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,440
scaramangas piece was prettier.
Was Was it made scary manga

1728
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:44,860
species nailed it nailed. No
agenda, Art generator.com, and

1729
01:35:44,860 --> 01:35:47,860
you can see many of these pieces
of art flying by in the

1730
01:35:47,860 --> 01:35:50,560
chapters. And if you if you're
in the car, if you're using

1731
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:56,380
Android Auto or CarPlay, and you
plug it in, it'll change on your

1732
01:35:56,380 --> 01:35:58,720
dashboard. It's kind of fun.
It'll distract you while you're

1733
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,620
driving. Thank you again.
Francisco Scaramanga. Now we

1734
01:36:01,620 --> 01:36:04,260
want to thank the people who
brought us the treasure, part of

1735
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:07,620
the 3t of value for value, time,
talent, treasure, the executive

1736
01:36:07,620 --> 01:36:10,140
and Associate Executive
producers. We also still have

1737
01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:15,240
our Commodore promotion ongoing,
which is a very handsome

1738
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:19,620
certificate. You become a no
agenda Commodore. It comes the

1739
01:36:19,620 --> 01:36:21,740
certificate as I still might

1740
01:36:21,740 --> 01:36:24,080
John C Dvorak: probably get
yours this week, okay, and then

1741
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,720
before Thursday show, so make
sure you get a picture of you.

1742
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,060
Yeah, showing it off, and

1743
01:36:29,180 --> 01:36:33,140
Adam Curry: it has a seal, and
it has a has a ribbon. It's one

1744
01:36:33,140 --> 01:36:36,020
of the best designs yet. I'm
very excited to see it, and very

1745
01:36:36,020 --> 01:36:38,480
excited to hang it on my wall.
So we'd like to thank our

1746
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:41,440
executive and Associate
Executive producers, very

1747
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:43,900
simple. And everybody can send
in through no agenda

1748
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:47,740
donations.com a donation of any
value. They're all appreciated.

1749
01:36:47,740 --> 01:36:51,640
We mention all of them over $50
we always love the sustaining

1750
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,460
donations. And if you come in
with $200 or above, you're an

1751
01:36:54,460 --> 01:36:57,640
Associate Executive Producer,
and we read your note. And that

1752
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,340
is a real credit which can be
used anywhere. Credits are

1753
01:37:00,340 --> 01:37:02,820
recognized Hollywood style
credits, because that's what

1754
01:37:02,820 --> 01:37:08,520
they are. Even on imdb.com and
for $300 and above, you get an

1755
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,400
executive producer credit, and
we read your note and we kick it

1756
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:15,480
off with a rare certainly the
longer we do the show, show

1757
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:20,100
number donation. This is for for
last, for the last show, 1700

1758
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:20,900
Yeah,

1759
01:37:20,900 --> 01:37:23,420
John C Dvorak: it came in late,
yeah. I mean, it came in by

1760
01:37:23,420 --> 01:37:26,600
mail, so he just missed it. So
we had to know what we can put a

1761
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,200
show donation on this show. Oh,
yeah, we have to, yeah. No, it

1762
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:35,840
has to be show donation. Yes, it
is. We, yeah, just put it on 17,

1763
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:36,080
yeah, of

1764
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:40,220
Adam Curry: course, of course.
And this is from baronettis,

1765
01:37:40,220 --> 01:37:45,520
bear of bend and Sir Ryan of
Central Oregon, $1,700 on a

1766
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,820
check. Thank you very much. Dear
John Adam, thanks for 1700

1767
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,420
episodes of The Greatest podcast
in the universe. This donation

1768
01:37:52,420 --> 01:37:56,080
will push sir Ryan over the
Baron finish line. You, you, you

1769
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,080
will be upgraded today, if the
peerage committee approves. He

1770
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,100
wants to claim Oregon, Central
Oregon as his territory,

1771
01:38:03,420 --> 01:38:05,040
peerage, community, everything
good.

1772
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:09,060
John C Dvorak: Violin, may
please

1773
01:38:09,060 --> 01:38:11,040
Adam Curry: sign us both up for
the no agenda Commodore

1774
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,180
promotion. That means you just
go to no agenda rings.com, the

1775
01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:18,060
Commodore ship is there. You can
put your information in, no

1776
01:38:18,060 --> 01:38:19,140
jingles, no karma. Can

1777
01:38:19,140 --> 01:38:21,260
John C Dvorak: we need a mailing
address and the name you want on

1778
01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:22,760
the on the certificate. Thanks
for

1779
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,240
Adam Curry: the hard work and
spot on analysis from Baronets,

1780
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,600
bear of bend and Sir Ryan of
Central Oregon. And thank you

1781
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,460
both so much. It's highly
appreciated.

1782
01:38:33,380 --> 01:38:35,960
John C Dvorak: Up next from
Cincinnati, Ohio, for $1,500

1783
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:43,060
which is nothing to sneeze at.
No uh. Grant Schuler, greetings.

1784
01:38:43,540 --> 01:38:47,140
Thanks for what you guys do.
Here's a try Commodore donation.

1785
01:38:47,140 --> 01:38:49,420
That's interesting. I like to
try Commodore.

1786
01:38:49,540 --> 01:38:51,280
Adam Curry: It's like a it's
like a tricorder

1787
01:38:51,820 --> 01:38:55,300
John C Dvorak: for the special
1701 Star Trek show first. Let

1788
01:38:55,300 --> 01:38:59,860
me be known simply as Commodore
G I'd like to give two Commodore

1789
01:38:59,860 --> 01:39:02,520
ranks, one to my brother,
Commodore Clark, who hit me in

1790
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:07,260
the mouth during the pandemic.
Well, good for him, and one to

1791
01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:13,080
his faithful canine companion in
Indy, uh, let her be known as

1792
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,680
Commodore Indy the white
Shepherd. Oh, all right. Again.

1793
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:21,140
Go to, uh, no agenda rings.com
and put this information in

1794
01:39:21,140 --> 01:39:26,600
there so you can get it shipped
to the right place. Also, for

1795
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:30,020
all those in the Cincinnati,
Ohio area, a shout out to my

1796
01:39:30,020 --> 01:39:33,980
brother's business, Central
Bank, doggy daycare.

1797
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:41,320
Adam Curry: Bark. Bark bank. Try
that. Read again.

1798
01:39:42,220 --> 01:39:48,160
John C Dvorak: Said central bark
doggy daycare in the Madeira

1799
01:39:48,220 --> 01:39:55,000
Indian Hill area. It's a dog
care reimagined with enrichment

1800
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,680
daycare reimagined with
enrichment daycare lectures

1801
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:04,380
about. Communism, grooming,
luxury boarding and much, much

1802
01:40:04,380 --> 01:40:09,300
more, a wonderful place with a
staff who just love to pamper

1803
01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:13,200
your pup all day long. Come by
and check it out.

1804
01:40:13,260 --> 01:40:16,620
Adam Curry: I'm surprised most
of these luxury places also

1805
01:40:16,620 --> 01:40:20,600
advertised that they had that
they stream the dog channel

1806
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:26,900
24/7, in the kennel. Does Mimi
have that? No, it's a big thing.

1807
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,880
John C Dvorak: We don't have TVs
for the dogs.

1808
01:40:29,420 --> 01:40:32,600
Adam Curry: You'd be surprised.
It's a big thing. Now they're

1809
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,240
streaming the dog channel. But

1810
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,640
John C Dvorak: some dogs with,
you know, ever since people

1811
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,860
should always kind of remember
this, that before the LCD

1812
01:40:41,860 --> 01:40:46,420
screen, dogs couldn't see TV.
That's right, that's a good

1813
01:40:46,420 --> 01:40:51,400
point, because it was flickering
at a 6030, cycles per second,

1814
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,880
and it was just bits and pieces
that our eyes, human eyes, could

1815
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,820
piece it together look like an
image, when, in fact, it wasn't

1816
01:40:57,820 --> 01:41:00,720
that. If you anyone ever took a
photo of a TV screen, you can

1817
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,920
see what, what's really going
on, just a splash of something.

1818
01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:09,600
And dogs are stays. They
couldn't see the the images

1819
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,380
weren't built into the dog eyes.
So they wouldn't watch TV. They

1820
01:41:13,380 --> 01:41:17,040
couldn't even cats. So when the
LCD screen came out, this is

1821
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,100
useless information, no, when
the LCD screen came out,

1822
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,500
riveting, dogs and cats will
watch TV.

1823
01:41:24,620 --> 01:41:29,420
Adam Curry: That's right. It's
good news. In some places they

1824
01:41:29,420 --> 01:41:32,120
eat the dogs. In other places
they let them watch TV. They're

1825
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,500
eating the dogs. Duke of San
Francisco comes in with 690,

1826
01:41:37,220 --> 01:41:42,640
6.33, and says, I the Duke of
San Francisco have learned of

1827
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,060
the Lake Tahoe, submarine Tahoe,
submarine base, and the

1828
01:41:46,060 --> 01:41:48,820
protection of the bay is now
paramount to the defense of our

1829
01:41:48,820 --> 01:41:49,780
great nation.

1830
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,320
Unknown: I've got information,
man, new shit has come to light.

1831
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:53,440
He

1832
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:55,720
Adam Curry: requested that
jingle, I shall patrol the bay

1833
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,600
with Sir, lavish and
recalcitrant Steve to keep our

1834
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:03,120
shores safe. When at sea now
ready for war. I shall be

1835
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:07,740
Commodore, dude, named Ben,
named Ben, and we shall make it.

1836
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:11,280
So I'm glad you're doing that
the certificate. Okay, yeah.

1837
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:12,960
Well, change the font.

1838
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:20,960
John C Dvorak: Change the font.
Onward with Ron Cooper, and he's

1839
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,800
in Flanagan. No, no, sorry,
Baron. I'm sorry. Baron sir dude

1840
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:30,560
named Ralph in Miami, Florida,
615 82 from Baron sir dude named

1841
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:35,180
Ralph Miami, 500 for Commodore
donation. $85 for show. $1,730

1842
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,800
for the PayPal fees. Thank you
very much.

1843
01:42:39,980 --> 01:42:43,180
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Wow.
PayPal. Ron Cooper, Flanagan,

1844
01:42:43,180 --> 01:42:52,540
Illinois, 533 dot 33 says, I
need a double D, douche. Why did

1845
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:59,860
why do people think that need a
double you've been deduced,

1846
01:42:59,860 --> 01:43:02,820
showered lately. Love listening
to you. What are you drinking?

1847
01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:06,780
Same? Topo Chico Chico, love
listening to you every week. My

1848
01:43:06,780 --> 01:43:09,960
birthday is October 6. I'm
turning 54 and what better

1849
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,980
present than becoming Commodore
Cooper followed both of you from

1850
01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:17,460
Adams, MTV days and John's
cranky geeks. See you in

1851
01:43:17,460 --> 01:43:21,380
Fredericksburg. Ah, October 18.
Go karma. He says, You got it

1852
01:43:21,380 --> 01:43:21,980
wrong. You've

1853
01:43:21,980 --> 01:43:24,560
Unknown: got karma.

1854
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,760
John C Dvorak: You have to read
the next one because it's too

1855
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:29,120
long.

1856
01:43:31,220 --> 01:43:38,480
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. This is
from Sir 1% ITM fellows and

1857
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:41,260
getmo nation. I am back with a
donation of 1% of my gross

1858
01:43:41,260 --> 01:43:45,400
business revenue to send sad
puppies scurrying away and claim

1859
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:49,180
my promotion to Viscount the
honor of Commodore of Dixie

1860
01:43:49,180 --> 01:43:52,300
Washington. And if I'm gonna
read, you can't be blowing your

1861
01:43:52,300 --> 01:43:55,780
nose, or you gotta mute, it's
disgusting. And to ask

1862
01:43:55,900 --> 01:44:00,300
John C Dvorak: that disgusting
life, is it disgusting? Yeah,

1863
01:44:00,300 --> 01:44:02,820
Adam Curry: because you can just
hear it flying out of your nose,

1864
01:44:05,580 --> 01:44:07,440
John C Dvorak: not like I'm
doing it like a baseball guy

1865
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,480
sporting on this on the ground.

1866
01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:14,700
Adam Curry: It's similar. It's
it's unbecoming, okay? And ask

1867
01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:17,940
that myself and President
Vladimir Putin be added to the

1868
01:44:17,940 --> 01:44:20,720
birthday list. Since we share
the same birthday, on Monday, I

1869
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,500
will be hitting 49 I also want
to use this occasion to thank

1870
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:30,560
those on the socials how I refer
to Mastodon for short, okay, who

1871
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,860
helped me attempt to win Best
pest control service provider in

1872
01:44:33,860 --> 01:44:36,920
a local newspaper's recently
concluded Readers Choice poll.

1873
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:40,840
Unfortunately, I do not have
news of a victory. However, I do

1874
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:44,980
not know if that's because of my
business, Z pest control LLC did

1875
01:44:44,980 --> 01:44:48,340
not win. A strange thing has
happened. Nominated businesses

1876
01:44:48,340 --> 01:44:51,220
were invited to an awards dinner
and a minimum ticket cost of

1877
01:44:51,220 --> 01:44:57,700
$138 don't you lose? Who? Don't
you Yeah, don't you understand

1878
01:44:57,700 --> 01:45:01,980
that these are scams that.
That's the whole point of these

1879
01:45:01,980 --> 01:45:06,720
things, even the the Podcast
Awards. Now the whole, the whole

1880
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:12,240
idea is you, you pay your money
and then and you pay to enter.

1881
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,620
So I'm sorry that you, you got
snookered at the event, which

1882
01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:19,680
was live streamed and recorded.
Dozens of categories disappeared

1883
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,820
from the presentation pest
control included.

1884
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,800
John C Dvorak: Oh no,

1885
01:45:24,860 --> 01:45:30,320
Adam Curry: this is a travesty
of epic proportions. The list of

1886
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,020
winners has not yet been
published, but I now suspect

1887
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,660
that if no nominees from a
category bought tickets and

1888
01:45:35,660 --> 01:45:38,780
their category was eliminated
votes and all this poll may have

1889
01:45:38,780 --> 01:45:42,400
been nothing more than a scam by
the newspaper to score cash on

1890
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:46,120
the names of other businesses.
Oh, well, life is a scam. Thank

1891
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,580
you gentlemen for your tireless
work shining light and all the

1892
01:45:48,580 --> 01:45:54,040
BS out there. Jingle requests.
JCD, spooky, donate. George

1893
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:59,740
Bush, Jr, just send your cash
and Biden whole load faithfully

1894
01:45:59,740 --> 01:46:04,200
supporting your exit strategy,
1% at a time, sir Dr, 1% Baron

1895
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,680
turning Viscount of lieberland,
Dixie, Washington. I know a lot

1896
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,940
of people want to send blankets,
sir water. Just send your cash.

1897
01:46:11,940 --> 01:46:13,860
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the
whole load today.

1898
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:24,380
You've got Donate. Donate.
Karma.

1899
01:46:25,820 --> 01:46:29,000
John C Dvorak: Eric Curtis in
Pleasant Ridge, Michigan, 500

1900
01:46:29,300 --> 01:46:32,240
bucks, no note, no nothing. So
he gets a double up karma.

1901
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:38,300
Unknown: You've got karma.

1902
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,640
Adam Curry: Baronet fly not is
from Meredith, New Hampshire,

1903
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:47,020
500 he says, Congrats on 1700
jobs. Karma for all. I hired

1904
01:46:47,020 --> 01:46:52,900
Linda Lou patkin In q3 of 2023.
And just got a sweet new gig.

1905
01:46:53,380 --> 01:46:57,520
Her connections on LinkedIn are
pretty amazing for a resume that

1906
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:01,140
gets results use image makers
inc.com, that's image makers,

1907
01:47:01,140 --> 01:47:05,700
Inc, with a k.com question,
what's your take on Mike Benz?

1908
01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:07,920
Do you have a take on Mike Benz?

1909
01:47:07,980 --> 01:47:09,360
John C Dvorak: I don't really
you do.

1910
01:47:09,660 --> 01:47:14,100
Adam Curry: I do. I think Mike
Benz is spot on. Unfortunately,

1911
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,400
he usually takes 40 minutes to
make the point, and I think most

1912
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,660
people have already kind of
drifted off and lost interest.

1913
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:25,700
He is so detailed, and he almost
seems frustrated that people

1914
01:47:25,700 --> 01:47:29,720
don't understand what he's
saying. But I agree with almost

1915
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:33,440
everything he says. But even
when you talk about the so

1916
01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:37,220
called blob, I just think he's
got to find a shorter way to

1917
01:47:37,220 --> 01:47:41,260
explain what he's saying. He
needs an editor. Onwards towards

1918
01:47:41,260 --> 01:47:44,260
Baron, regards, Baronet, fly,
not of the open maps,

1919
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:51,160
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. Karma.

1920
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:59,200
John C Dvorak: Tyler hooker in
Arcata, California, 500 and this

1921
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:03,840
is switcheroo. Make a note this
donation of 500 and the

1922
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:11,220
accompanying Commodore title of
practically crap. Proper crap,

1923
01:48:11,820 --> 01:48:16,620
practically perfect, I can't say
it practically perfectly is a

1924
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:22,700
71st birthday gift for Donna
Jean Hooker from her son, Tyler

1925
01:48:23,660 --> 01:48:27,560
and her daughter on her daughter
in law. Then Danielle Hewitt,

1926
01:48:28,580 --> 01:48:33,080
please deduce her and add her to
the birthday list for October 7.

1927
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:37,820
She's on the list. Also, please
know that no agenda kept all of

1928
01:48:37,820 --> 01:48:43,180
us sane and together throughout
the covid madness. Happy

1929
01:48:43,180 --> 01:48:47,020
birthday. Mom jingles biscuit on
my birthday. They always

1930
01:48:47,020 --> 01:48:48,280
Unknown: give me a biscuit on my

1931
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:54,520
Adam Curry: you've been deduced.
By the way, I would hope we're

1932
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:58,000
keeping you sane throughout
these insane times as well. You

1933
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,660
know, there's a lot going on in
the world, and the media is

1934
01:49:00,900 --> 01:49:03,600
definitely affecting everyone's
amygdala one way or the other.

1935
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:05,820
So bring it back to size. Media

1936
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:07,080
John C Dvorak: is no good.

1937
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's that's
the easy way of saying it. Media

1938
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:19,740
is no good. Am I? Am I not
mistaken, but I think it is

1939
01:49:19,740 --> 01:49:22,580
time, ladies and gentlemen, I
present

1940
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,240
Unknown: the Grand Duke of the
Pacific Northwest, sir Dwayne

1941
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:27,080
melon song,

1942
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,740
Adam Curry: there he is. Sir
Dwayne melon song, Grand Duke of

1943
01:49:30,740 --> 01:49:35,660
the Pacific Northwest, $500 ITM,
gentlemen, economy, karma for us

1944
01:49:35,660 --> 01:49:40,180
all, that's jobs, jobs, jobs,
plus goats, please. And I don't

1945
01:49:40,180 --> 01:49:42,760
know if he wants a Commodore
ship. He hasn't mentioned it,

1946
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,580
but I would hope so. So I and

1947
01:49:45,580 --> 01:49:47,500
John C Dvorak: he listens. He
knows to go to no agenda rings

1948
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,360
calm and fill out the form

1949
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:54,460
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs that's those are

1950
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:58,240
jobs. Karma. You.

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,420
John C Dvorak: Sir Robertson of
the two sticks in DOS, Paulos,

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01:50:03,420 --> 01:50:08,640
California, two sticks. ITM sir
Robertson with two sticks,

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01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:15,300
requesting Commodore status.
Also a Trekkie NCC, 1701 dash D

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01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:20,340
enterprise, thank you for your
courage and go podcasting. I

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dinged.

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Adam Curry: Oh, thank you. Soap
soaps. Soap soaps, Peyton,

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01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:33,320
Colorado, 500 switcheroo,
Commodore donation for my better

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01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,460
half credit. Ep to Tabitha
soaps. I got an email from her

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01:50:37,460 --> 01:50:42,760
the other day. Tabitha soaps put
that in here. Okay, got your

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01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,180
switch. Rudone, uh, bringing her
to Dame status. She shall be

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01:50:46,180 --> 01:50:50,380
known as Dame Tabitha, keeper of
awesomeness, cowboy killers and

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01:50:50,380 --> 01:50:54,220
Calvados for the round table.
It's been ordered. We'll see her

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01:50:54,220 --> 01:50:55,120
there. Thank you.

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01:50:56,500 --> 01:50:59,200
John C Dvorak: Brian telecki in
Lincoln Nebraska came in a

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01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,760
little late for the last show he
came in for show 1700 but it was

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01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:07,560
after the show had begun, yeah,
$500 within he says, Dear John

1967
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:11,100
and Adam, I love this Commodore
promotional idea for show 1700

1968
01:51:12,300 --> 01:51:16,440
after witnessing the Vanderbilt
University Commodores defeat the

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01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:19,260
town that was that's just, oh,
this. This is a new note,

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01:51:19,260 --> 01:51:23,240
because this happened just
yesterday, defeat. This is a

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01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:27,020
ridiculous football situation
for people out there who follow.

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01:51:27,020 --> 01:51:27,080
I

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01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,540
Adam Curry: know, right. It was
crazy.

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01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,880
John C Dvorak: Okay, got felt
sports after witnessing the

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01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:41,320
Vanderbilt University Commodore
defeat of the top ranked, number

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01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:45,700
one Alabama, Crimson Tide.
Saturday night, I know I needed

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01:51:45,700 --> 01:51:49,900
to donate for those who who
don't know college football.

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01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:55,420
Adam, this is an extremely rare
victory. In fact, Vandy was oh

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01:51:55,420 --> 01:51:59,800
and 60 in previous attempts
against top five ranked teams.

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01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:03,900
Jingle request, Reverend Al
respect, the F 35 guy and goat

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01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:04,380
karma.

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01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,380
Unknown: ESPI, CT,

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01:52:16,620 --> 01:52:17,400
you've got

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01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:23,600
Adam Curry: karma. That guy's
great. Ah, now we move to 343,

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01:52:24,140 --> 01:52:27,380
75 so these are not Commodores,
but these are executive

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01:52:27,380 --> 01:52:31,400
producers. Sir Tiktok tunes is
in Roswell, Georgia. He says,

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01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,520
I'm Sir Tiktok tunes. Night of
the loud voices. Congratulations

1988
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,940
to you both. First executive
producer donation, thanks to an

1989
01:52:37,940 --> 01:52:42,580
unexpected windfall, thanks for
the masterful media

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01:52:42,580 --> 01:52:47,260
deconstruction. Pot calling,
kettle, don't look over here. I

1991
01:52:47,260 --> 01:52:47,860
gotcha. Hello,

1992
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:52,420
Unknown: kettle. This is the pot
calling

1993
01:52:52,540 --> 01:52:55,240
don't look over here. Nothing to
see here.

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01:52:55,780 --> 01:52:58,900
John C Dvorak: Look at that.
Nice. You know where the term

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01:52:58,900 --> 01:53:00,100
windfall comes from.

1996
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:00,900
Adam Curry: I do not

1997
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:03,360
Unknown: fruit orchards.

1998
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,980
Adam Curry: Oh, so, so the
windfall would have more fruit

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01:53:07,980 --> 01:53:09,120
dropping on the ground.

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01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,760
John C Dvorak: Yeah? The big
wind comes in and dull bunch of

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01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,580
fruit drops. So you don't go
pick it and you load up and you

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01:53:14,580 --> 01:53:16,140
can sell the Yeah, the windfall

2003
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,480
Adam Curry: fruit orchards in
where, in Georgia, in

2004
01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:21,140
California, everywhere, anywhere
there's a window. But, I mean,

2005
01:53:21,140 --> 01:53:24,080
what? But where did who first
coined the term windfall?

2006
01:53:24,500 --> 01:53:26,240
John C Dvorak: Well, now you're
asking me questions I can't

2007
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,760
answer. Well, don't come to the
trying to stump me. Well, don't

2008
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,400
come to the table you were to
come through. I don't have the

2009
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,040
etymology. I don't have the
exact name of the orchard and

2010
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,020
the poor guy who had the
windfall profit.

2011
01:53:36,020 --> 01:53:36,620
Adam Curry: And, well, well,

2012
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,960
John C Dvorak: I'll take a look.
SDG, in Oakland, California, 340

2013
01:53:41,380 --> 01:53:45,160
and this is 170 This is an
interesting donation. It's 170

2014
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:53,320
times two over four for shows,
1700 Oh, we got mathematicians

2015
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:53,920
out there.

2016
01:53:55,000 --> 01:54:00,900
Adam Curry: Very impressive.
Umpers United, Ubers united.

2017
01:54:01,380 --> 01:54:05,040
That's y, O, O, P, E, R, S,
eopers United from Gurney,

2018
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,760
Illinois, 333 dot, 30 thank you
for your exceptional show.

2019
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:13,320
Signed. Uppers united. I wonder
who these jupers United guys?

2020
01:54:13,380 --> 01:54:15,300
John C Dvorak: I don't know, but
they seem to be in Illinois.

2021
01:54:15,780 --> 01:54:18,720
Take a look, sir. Kevin dills in
Huntersville, North Carolina,

2022
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:22,100
330, 3.33. And he says, God
bless North Carolina and God

2023
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:26,720
bless North agenda. Please pray
for us, Sir Kevin dills, Duke of

2024
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,640
North Carolina, yes.

2025
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,760
Adam Curry: Eupers United is a
place to find volunteer

2026
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:36,320
opportunities. Interesting.
Hubers united, thank you.

2027
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:37,400
John C Dvorak: Look it up.

2028
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:43,480
Adam Curry: Then we go to Zach N
in Los Angeles, California, our

2029
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,920
first Associate Executive
Producer with 283 36 shout out

2030
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,220
Toba gentlemen, wishing you, Oh,
this one came in late. Wishing

2031
01:54:51,220 --> 01:54:55,540
you both a huge congrats on show
1700 and happy and healthy New

2032
01:54:55,540 --> 01:54:59,920
Year from one of no agendas.
Proud token Jews. Yeah.

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,300
Apologies for the late donation
as I was conspiring on a World

2034
01:55:03,300 --> 01:55:06,300
Takeover with my fellow Jews
last night at Rosh Hashanah

2035
01:55:06,300 --> 01:55:07,020
services.

2036
01:55:07,980 --> 01:55:09,780
John C Dvorak: Another fail. You

2037
01:55:09,780 --> 01:55:13,200
Adam Curry: failed again, Jews.
I'm also proud to announce my

2038
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,560
knighthood has been achieved.
Please. Knight me, Sir Nanuk of

2039
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:20,100
the West, I request apples and
honey. That's a that's a Rosh

2040
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:23,840
Hashanah favorite and grassed
grass finished. Rib eyes and

2041
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:27,680
chocolate babka at the round
table. What's a babka? Bob

2042
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:28,760
chocolate, bobca. Bobca.

2043
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,700
John C Dvorak: Isn't that a
Russian dessert of some sort?

2044
01:55:31,820 --> 01:55:36,320
Adam Curry: That's babushka. No,
that's a babka babushka. No,

2045
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:37,100
that's the doll.

2046
01:55:38,660 --> 01:55:41,260
John C Dvorak: Babushka doll.
It's a great babushka means

2047
01:55:41,260 --> 01:55:42,400
grandmother, yes,

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01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,160
Adam Curry: okay. But Bob cook
anyway, this show is one of the

2049
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:47,740
greatest blessings in my life,
and I thank you both and all the

2050
01:55:47,740 --> 01:55:51,040
producers for their continued
work. Karma for all thank you

2051
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:52,000
from Zach N,

2052
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,180
Unknown: you've got karma.

2053
01:55:58,180 --> 01:56:03,240
John C Dvorak: Wyatt varums are
worms, worms. Varums gotta be

2054
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:08,820
worms, worms, I think. And he's
in Phoenix, Phoenix Oregon. I

2055
01:56:08,820 --> 01:56:13,380
didn't know there was a Phoenix
Oregon. $210.95 Hello, Jess. My

2056
01:56:13,380 --> 01:56:17,760
name is, was called on on show
1700 by Commodore Brent Smith

2057
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:22,460
from Legrand, Oregon. Pretty
sure I'm not that Wyatt, but I

2058
01:56:22,460 --> 01:56:24,620
will apply anyway. You got
called out. He

2059
01:56:24,620 --> 01:56:26,540
Adam Curry: got called out, and
he just he said, my name is

2060
01:56:26,540 --> 01:56:28,640
Wyatt, so I might as well jump
in. I love it,

2061
01:56:29,180 --> 01:56:32,660
John C Dvorak: but I will oblige
anyway. I need recovery karma

2062
01:56:32,660 --> 01:56:36,320
for my broken leg after an
accident in March. Broken leg,

2063
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,500
yeah, that's bad. Thank you both
so much, and may you never find

2064
01:56:39,500 --> 01:56:42,700
an exit strategy. Wyatt verms,
thank

2065
01:56:42,700 --> 01:56:44,380
Adam Curry: you very much,
Wyatt, you've got

2066
01:56:44,500 --> 01:56:45,220
Unknown: karma,

2067
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:51,160
Adam Curry: and I will do
Michael day from Fouquet Varina,

2068
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:54,820
who invest in North Carolina.
And so we hope all is well.

2069
01:56:54,820 --> 01:56:58,600
There $200 no note, so he gets a
double up karma. And for all

2070
01:56:58,600 --> 01:56:59,200
there as well,

2071
01:57:01,780 --> 01:57:03,120
Unknown: karma, and

2072
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:06,240
John C Dvorak: last on our list
is Linda lupatkin in Lakewood,

2073
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:10,500
Colorado, $200 also. And she's
requesting, believe it or not,

2074
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,520
she's requesting jobs karma, and
says for a resume that gets

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results. Visit imagemakers
inc.com for your go to, your go

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of jobs and writer of resumes,
jobs,

2079
01:57:31,820 --> 01:57:38,300
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
karma.

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01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,100
Adam Curry: And according to
mutter in the troll room, babka

2081
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:44,920
is typically made with a yeast
leave and dough that's rolled

2082
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,860
out and spread with a filling,
such as chocolate, cinnamon,

2083
01:57:47,860 --> 01:57:52,720
fruit or cheese, then rolled up
and braided before baking. It's

2084
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:57,220
popular in Israel. Jewish
Diaspora, we could have known

2085
01:57:57,220 --> 01:57:58,900
that it's Jew food,

2086
01:57:59,860 --> 01:58:03,060
John C Dvorak: Jew food that and
gefilte fish,

2087
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:08,100
Adam Curry: oh, man, that I
can't understand. I mean, I can

2088
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:11,640
eat raw herring, no problem.
Gefilte fish, no, that's just

2089
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:12,180
nasty.

2090
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:16,380
John C Dvorak: Test. Yes, you
get tests. You failed. Yeah,

2091
01:58:16,380 --> 01:58:19,140
Adam Curry: yeah, I failed for
sure. Thank you very much to our

2092
01:58:19,140 --> 01:58:21,200
executive and Associate
Executive and Associate

2093
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:23,720
Executive producers and our
Commodores, who will be honored

2094
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,180
later on. We appreciate it.
We'll also be thanking everybody

2095
01:58:26,180 --> 01:58:29,240
over $50 and remember any
donation helps, even a

2096
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:32,780
sustaining donation, which you
can find and enter at no agenda

2097
01:58:32,780 --> 01:58:36,020
donations.com thank you again to
our executive and Associate

2098
01:58:36,020 --> 01:58:38,660
Executive producers of 1701, our

2099
01:58:38,660 --> 01:58:43,060
Unknown: formula is this, we go
out, we get people in the mouth.

2100
01:58:58,420 --> 01:59:01,680
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
of WTF clips that are political.

2101
01:59:02,220 --> 01:59:07,680
Okay, good. This is Harris in
North Carolina. One

2102
01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:13,680
Unknown: Okay. Vice President
Harris surveyed damage from

2103
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:17,160
Hurricane Helene in North
Carolina. Emperor says muhallid

2104
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:17,880
has more

2105
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:21,320
in North Carolina. HARRIS
praised first responders and

2106
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:24,320
volunteers on the ground for
doing God's work. The

2107
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,680
work that is happening here and
that continues, really is the

2108
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:31,580
best of what we can do to bring
federal, state and local

2109
01:59:31,580 --> 01:59:33,560
resources together. Federal

2110
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,560
hurricane recovery efforts are
becoming politicized in this

2111
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:37,820
campaign cycle. Wait

2112
01:59:37,820 --> 01:59:41,140
Adam Curry: a minute. She didn't
say they were doing God's work,

2113
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,480
John C Dvorak: exactly then why
did,

2114
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:46,840
Adam Curry: and why did this
woman say, and what is this

2115
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:50,440
from? Is this NPR? What is NPR?
And why did she then say was

2116
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:52,060
being politicized? Because

2117
01:59:52,540 --> 01:59:54,760
John C Dvorak: she's
politicizing it right there.

2118
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:55,000
What

2119
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:56,980
Adam Curry: a horrible woman.
I'm

2120
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:58,780
John C Dvorak: glad you caught
that immediately.

2121
01:59:58,780 --> 02:00:01,680
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm like God's
work. Yeah, go Jesus. What?

2122
02:00:03,180 --> 02:00:06,660
John C Dvorak: Nothing about
God. She's an atheist. Come on,

2123
02:00:06,660 --> 02:00:06,960
she's

2124
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:09,780
Adam Curry: a communist. Marxist
is the opposite. Be

2125
02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:12,540
John C Dvorak: a good communist.
You do. Here's part two. The

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02:00:12,900 --> 02:00:16,020
Unknown: Republican presidential
nominee has criticized the Biden

2127
02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:18,840
administration and made some
false allegations about the

2128
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:22,220
government's response to the
disaster. Harris did not

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02:00:22,220 --> 02:00:24,980
publicly speak to the
misinformation during her trip,

2130
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:28,160
but while she was in North
Carolina, the White House issued

2131
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:31,040
a statement about, quote,
fighting hurricane Helene,

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02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:34,820
falsehoods with facts Asma
Khalid, NPR news,

2133
02:00:34,820 --> 02:00:38,060
John C Dvorak: what Wait, what
fall. What is he? What's she

2134
02:00:38,060 --> 02:00:41,080
talking about? The same woman
now she's saying that there was

2135
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:44,860
false information without
telling us what it was. Well,

2136
02:00:44,860 --> 02:00:47,320
that's, oh, Trump's saying false
information.

2137
02:00:47,380 --> 02:00:49,960
Adam Curry: Well, what is this?
Just like a throwaway report.

2138
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:53,740
They just do this 22 seconds
from time to time on NPR. Just

2139
02:00:53,740 --> 02:00:54,640
throw it in there.

2140
02:00:54,940 --> 02:00:58,240
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's just
so they can slam Trump. Oh, man,

2141
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:01,260
Adam Curry: very strange.

2142
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:04,560
John C Dvorak: If we want to
play weird clips, I still have,

2143
02:01:04,620 --> 02:01:07,320
Adam Curry: I don't really, I
don't. Oh, okay, good. Well,

2144
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:09,780
John C Dvorak: let's play a
couple. Well, no, you had,

2145
02:01:09,780 --> 02:01:10,680
you're on board. Well, no,

2146
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,380
Adam Curry: I want, I want to
talk about Iran and Israel and

2147
02:01:13,380 --> 02:01:15,000
all the important things in
life.

2148
02:01:16,020 --> 02:01:19,440
John C Dvorak: Iran. I've got an
Israel clip, but it's not going

2149
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:21,680
to follow whatever you have to
do. Okay?

2150
02:01:21,860 --> 02:01:23,960
Adam Curry: Backgrounder, and if
you really want to know what the

2151
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,480
intelligence community thinks,
you got to bring in Richard

2152
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:29,900
Engel from NBC, Iran, Supreme

2153
02:01:29,900 --> 02:01:33,500
Unknown: Leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei led Friday prayers in

2154
02:01:33,500 --> 02:01:38,600
Tehran today for the first time
in more than four years. He said

2155
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:42,820
Iran is ready to strike Israel
again, if necessary, to drive

2156
02:01:42,820 --> 02:01:46,900
home the point, the 85 year old
cleric clutched an assault rifle

2157
02:01:47,620 --> 02:01:51,640
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is at war with Iran's

2158
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:55,720
network of allies. The main
battleground is Lebanon against

2159
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,600
Hezbollah, which has been
attacking Northern Israel with

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rockets for nearly a year. In
response, the group says to

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Israel's war on Gaza, Beirut is
now rocked by Israel day and

2162
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:13,740
night here, Israel targeted what
an official said was a meeting

2163
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:18,060
of Hezbollah leaders in southern
Lebanon. Israel is trying to

2164
02:02:18,060 --> 02:02:22,460
carve out a buffer zone free of
Hezbollah Israeli strikes are

2165
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taking their toll here. The city
of Tyre, one of the biggest

2166
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cities here in southern Lebanon,
has effectively been evacuated.

2167
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,720
There's very few civilians left
here. Hezbollah has taken a

2168
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:36,320
beating in recent days, but the
group remains intact, and every

2169
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:40,900
day down here, we have seen and
heard outgoing fire. Lebanese

2170
02:02:40,900 --> 02:02:45,580
officials say 1400 people have
been killed in Israel. Prime

2171
02:02:45,580 --> 02:02:49,300
Minister Netanyahu and his war
cabinet are still deciding how

2172
02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:52,900
and when to respond to Iran's
missile attack. That decision

2173
02:02:53,020 --> 02:02:55,720
will be felt across the Middle
East and beyond.

2174
02:02:55,780 --> 02:02:56,440
Yeah,

2175
02:02:56,740 --> 02:03:00,420
Adam Curry: this is the big one.
Now, how is Israel? Israel? How

2176
02:03:00,420 --> 02:03:02,580
are they going to respond?
They're going to blow up the

2177
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:05,820
oil. They're going to blow up
the the nuclear. Are they going

2178
02:03:05,820 --> 02:03:08,460
to do nothing? Are they going to
just blow up some more pagers,

2179
02:03:08,460 --> 02:03:10,380
some more radios? What's going
on?

2180
02:03:10,980 --> 02:03:13,380
John C Dvorak: I think we should
have a betting pool.

2181
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:16,920
Adam Curry: Well, let's, let's
see what Trump has to say.

2182
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:20,100
Unknown: They asked him, What do
you think about Iran? Would you

2183
02:03:20,340 --> 02:03:24,140
hit Iran? And he goes, as long
as they don't hit the nuclear

2184
02:03:24,140 --> 02:03:28,040
stuff, that's the thing you want
to hit, right? I said, I think

2185
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:30,800
he's got that one wrong. Is that
the what you're supposed to hit?

2186
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,940
I mean, it's the most it's the
biggest risk we have, nuclear

2187
02:03:34,940 --> 02:03:38,060
weapons, the power of nuclear
weapons, the power of weaponry.

2188
02:03:38,060 --> 02:03:41,920
You know, I rebuilt the entire
military jets, everything I

2189
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,100
built it, including nuclear. And
I hated to build the nuclear,

2190
02:03:45,220 --> 02:03:48,100
but I got to know firsthand the
power of that stuff. And I'll

2191
02:03:48,100 --> 02:03:51,640
tell you what, we have to be
totally prepared. We have to be

2192
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:54,220
absolutely prepared. But when
they asked him that question,

2193
02:03:54,220 --> 02:03:57,520
the answer should have been, hit
the nuclear first and worry

2194
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:01,680
about the rest later. And that's
why they should if they're going

2195
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:02,460
to do it.

2196
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:05,460
Adam Curry: I like how Trump
kind of interchanges nuclear

2197
02:04:05,460 --> 02:04:09,900
power with nuclear bombs and,
you know, just this whole back

2198
02:04:09,900 --> 02:04:13,500
and forth. And of course, nobody
wants to, nobody wants to hit

2199
02:04:13,500 --> 02:04:17,280
the oil, because then the oil
will skyrocket, and that's going

2200
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:20,420
to need that aggravation that's
going to hurt Biden short term

2201
02:04:20,420 --> 02:04:24,560
and Trump long term, because no
matter what he does then, his 18

2202
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:28,880
month promise won't happen if
they blow up some Iranian oil

2203
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:34,940
rigs and refineries or whatever,
that's no good. So the question

2204
02:04:34,940 --> 02:04:42,700
is, CNN poses to former US
ambassador to Syria and Israel,

2205
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:48,820
is is this political anyway?
Political is Netanyahu taking

2206
02:04:48,820 --> 02:04:52,240
advantage of some political
cycle going on in America, sir?

2207
02:04:52,420 --> 02:04:54,820
Unknown: What do you believe

2208
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:59,920
our prime minister, Benjamin,
Netanyahu? Imperatives here and.

2209
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,820
I think my sense what's his
thought trajectory? Central

2210
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:07,500
question is, is the Israeli
Prime Minister taking advantage

2211
02:05:07,500 --> 02:05:10,560
of the fact that there is this
heated we are in the heated

2212
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:15,900
final days of a US presidential
election? Is he pushing forward

2213
02:05:15,900 --> 02:05:17,760
more aggressively, in part
because of that?

2214
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:25,220
Absolutely Casey. I think that
he feels he has a relatively

2215
02:05:25,220 --> 02:05:29,000
open field because of our
upcoming presidential elections,

2216
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:32,900
it's very difficult for the
Biden administration, on the

2217
02:05:32,900 --> 02:05:36,320
cusp of a very tight
presidential race, to alienate

2218
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:42,520
certain important constituencies
on our country, both the

2219
02:05:42,940 --> 02:05:49,480
American Jewish vote the Arab
American Arab vote in battle

2220
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:54,100
ground states. So he knows the
American political scene very

2221
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:57,460
well, like the back of his hand,
and I think he is taking

2222
02:05:57,460 --> 02:06:01,740
advantage of the inhibitions of
the Biden administration to be

2223
02:06:01,740 --> 02:06:07,920
more assertive in reining in
what he has been doing in really

2224
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:12,240
asking for total military
victory in Gaza and now

2225
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:18,240
attacking Beirut and southern
Lebanon. So that, obviously is a

2226
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:22,220
consideration it is in his
personal interest to continue

2227
02:06:22,220 --> 02:06:24,560
the warfare into certain
measures.

2228
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:27,920
Adam Curry: Well, that was
totally boring. I'm almost I'm

2229
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:28,460
also

2230
02:06:28,460 --> 02:06:30,380
John C Dvorak: a minute in my
life. I'll

2231
02:06:30,380 --> 02:06:32,540
Adam Curry: never get back
longer. Was a minute and a half

2232
02:06:32,900 --> 02:06:36,620
John C Dvorak: so. But I did use
the term I unless you slipped it

2233
02:06:36,620 --> 02:06:38,180
in thought trajectory.

2234
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:41,080
Adam Curry: I slipped. I
slipped. I clicked in thought

2235
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:45,280
trajectory, please, because the
stupid Casey Hunt is like

2236
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:51,640
thought trajectory is what you
just want to say. I'll read the

2237
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:54,880
you know, our our theory, our
working theory, which can

2238
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:58,300
change, but our working theory
is, this is all part of the

2239
02:06:58,300 --> 02:07:01,500
West. Clark seven. The idea is
to get Iran. We already have the

2240
02:07:01,500 --> 02:07:05,940
turban tossing happening. We
need regime change, and some of

2241
02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:10,080
the players may already be dead,
if not, they are on the hit

2242
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:14,100
list, very similar to what
happened with Hezbollah and the

2243
02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:17,940
exploding the pagers was one
thing, I think, the the tactical

2244
02:07:17,940 --> 02:07:20,960
radios that really took out
some, some dudes who are

2245
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:24,620
important. So speaking of dudes,
we have a boots on the ground

2246
02:07:24,620 --> 02:07:28,340
from dude named Muhammad. He's
in the region. And would you

2247
02:07:28,340 --> 02:07:34,160
explain why we put so much
weight on his reports?

2248
02:07:36,260 --> 02:07:39,560
John C Dvorak: Oh, he's the OG
dude named Muhammad. For one

2249
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:44,680
thing, if it's the same guy, and
he I, he seems credible. I don't

2250
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:46,660
know what you're wanting me to
say

2251
02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:51,160
Adam Curry: about how they how
people talk in the region. Oh

2252
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,980
John C Dvorak: yes, they gossip
a lot. If you go, if you're in

2253
02:07:53,980 --> 02:07:57,880
the Middle East, and you go to a
cafe or even hang out with a rug

2254
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:04,020
salesman in Turkey, all they do
is, is gossip about politics.

2255
02:08:04,020 --> 02:08:08,760
100% of the time they it's like,
it's on, it's like what we once

2256
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,160
in a while, oh, don't talk
politics at the dinner table.

2257
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:15,600
Oh, no, that's not the case in
the Middle East. No, that's all

2258
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:16,500
you talk about.

2259
02:08:17,580 --> 02:08:19,860
Adam Curry: So we are thinking,
is that what you were looking

2260
02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:23,060
for? Thank you. I'll cut out the
part where I explain my

2261
02:08:23,060 --> 02:08:26,240
question. No one will ever know.
We

2262
02:08:26,300 --> 02:08:28,340
John C Dvorak: edit this show
down to nothing. The post that

2263
02:08:28,340 --> 02:08:30,260
goes into the show is
unbelievable. No one ever

2264
02:08:30,260 --> 02:08:33,020
Adam Curry: knows ITM gents,
here's my humble analysis of the

2265
02:08:33,020 --> 02:08:36,320
situation, having a good
understanding of the region US

2266
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:39,680
and international affairs. It
seems that this is ramping up to

2267
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:45,280
cleanse all Iranian proxies
before January 2025, this

2268
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,220
explains the Trump Netanyahu
meetings, which are at Mar a

2269
02:08:48,220 --> 02:08:51,820
Lago, and will give both
something to brag about. Trump

2270
02:08:51,820 --> 02:08:56,020
ending a huge conflict from day
one and Netanyahu emerging like

2271
02:08:56,020 --> 02:09:01,200
a national hero. This will
revive a new Abraham accord with

2272
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,500
friendly neighboring countries.
We've already heard Bibi talk

2273
02:09:04,500 --> 02:09:07,620
that way towards the Iranians.
Minimal threats for new

2274
02:09:07,620 --> 02:09:11,460
beachfront properties and
shining pipelines Hezbollah will

2275
02:09:11,460 --> 02:09:13,920
be completely eliminated. And I
believe there will be a new

2276
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:16,560
leadership in Lebanon could be
supported by the Lebanese

2277
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,740
military, which will guarantee
support by Gulf nations for

2278
02:09:19,740 --> 02:09:23,660
stable and friendly Lebanon,
Syria, on the other hand, will

2279
02:09:23,660 --> 02:09:27,380
most likely end with a military
coup, with a friendly military

2280
02:09:27,380 --> 02:09:30,620
leadership, just like Lebanon.
The same will be repeated in

2281
02:09:30,620 --> 02:09:34,100
Yemen. Iraq is already halfway
there with a couple of militias

2282
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:37,340
to be pushed aside, and no
strong or charismatic leader for

2283
02:09:37,340 --> 02:09:40,300
the proxies in this part of the
world, people look for a

2284
02:09:40,300 --> 02:09:43,540
singular leader, and the proxies
lost a lot of them recently

2285
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:47,920
during this Abraham accord. 2.0
stage, Iran will be isolated,

2286
02:09:47,980 --> 02:09:52,180
sidelined and ready to be
internally rebelized through

2287
02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:59,140
turban tossing and Tiktok
videos. Turban tossing and

2288
02:09:59,140 --> 02:10:02,100
Tiktok video. It's too long for
a title, but that's basically

2289
02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:07,260
it, and that will finally end
the West Clark seven. You know,

2290
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:11,700
I was thinking about this. It's
a good note. It's a great note,

2291
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,360
because it, you know, and you
kind of have, if you add Putin

2292
02:10:15,660 --> 02:10:20,480
and and Ukraine to the mix,
let's just, let's just take a

2293
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:27,080
look at what happened since 1991
in American foreign policy. In

2294
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:31,040
91 the Wall came down. The
Soviet Union ended. And I think

2295
02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:34,940
from that moment, the United
States, you know, the

2296
02:10:34,940 --> 02:10:39,080
government, was like, Yeah, we
run the world now. We don't need

2297
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,920
anybody. But there's no one's
around. Putin. There's no guy to

2298
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:46,960
do anything. Russia's weak. They
got nothing. So in 1992 Paul

2299
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:51,400
Wolfowitz creates a defense
policy for Cheney, who was,

2300
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:54,760
then, some people don't remember
this. He was the Secretary of

2301
02:10:54,760 --> 02:11:00,160
Defense for Bush one. Then we
get Clinton in 1994 a Democrat

2302
02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:04,080
now. So of course, everything's
going to change. Sure NATO would

2303
02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:08,880
expand to Ukraine. That actually
became public in 97 despite who

2304
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:11,640
we had promised, Gorbachev, and
before that, Yeltsin was we're

2305
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:14,220
never going to expand NATO.
Don't worry about it. Yeah, it

2306
02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:17,460
was a promise by Jim Baker, and
then who came in as Secretary of

2307
02:11:17,460 --> 02:11:22,760
State under Bill Clinton,
Madeleine Albright, another fine

2308
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:28,340
specimen in 1998 Clinton already
had published the policy

2309
02:11:28,340 --> 02:11:31,880
document to replace Saddam
Hussein through regime change.

2310
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:34,760
But don't worry, we'll get to
that later. Then we have the

2311
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:37,700
first war in Europe after World
War Two, which people don't

2312
02:11:37,700 --> 02:11:41,140
really want to credit it with.
That was the 1999 bombing of

2313
02:11:41,140 --> 02:11:45,040
Serbia again. Madeleine Albright
Clinton, wasn't she out there

2314
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,520
saying, hey, if we got to kill
some children, it's okay. I

2315
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:50,080
recall her saying something like
that,

2316
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:53,740
John C Dvorak: and I recall the
errant missile that found its

2317
02:11:53,740 --> 02:11:57,580
way into the Chinese Embassy and
blew it to smithereens. Yes,

2318
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:01,260
Adam Curry: no. She said that
later, she said later here she

2319
02:12:01,260 --> 02:12:01,500
said,

2320
02:12:01,620 --> 02:12:05,160
Unknown: we have heard that half
a million children have died. I

2321
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:12,060
mean, that's more children than
died when in Hiroshima. And, you

2322
02:12:12,060 --> 02:12:13,620
know, is the price worth it?

2323
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:18,180
I think this is a very hard
choice, but the price, we think

2324
02:12:18,180 --> 02:12:20,300
the price is worth it. Uh huh.
So

2325
02:12:20,300 --> 02:12:22,160
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
Madeleine Albright.

2326
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:24,380
John C Dvorak: Great clip.
Ready? Yeah, that's

2327
02:12:24,380 --> 02:12:25,400
Adam Curry: Madeleine Albright.

2328
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:26,660
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one.

2329
02:12:26,660 --> 02:12:29,900
Adam Curry: No, at the time
during the Clinton, Bill

2330
02:12:29,900 --> 02:12:34,040
Clinton, our sax playing boxer
wearing Bill Clinton, Democrat

2331
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:37,880
president who was number two in
the State Department Russian

2332
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:41,320
policy. Come on, everybody. It's
an easy question to answer.

2333
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:46,720
Victoria Newland, yes, she was
in there, 1999 so then we get

2334
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:50,320
bush in after the disaster. She
was thin and kind of pretty. She

2335
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:55,720
Well, in an odd kind of way.
Yeah, she was so then we have

2336
02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:59,200
Bush coming in 2001 he came in,
of course, in January, before

2337
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,640
911 but don't worry, there's
only a couple months. This is

2338
02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:07,080
George W Bush. Newland then
becomes Deputy National Security

2339
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:12,120
Advisor for who was the vice
president. Oh, there's Cheney

2340
02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:16,320
again. Oh, what a surprise, of
course. Then we read of the

2341
02:13:16,380 --> 02:13:20,400
Project for the New American
Century subtitle, rebuilding

2342
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:25,340
America's defenses, we get 911
whatever happened? How that

2343
02:13:25,340 --> 02:13:31,100
happened? WTC, seven won't go
away. And this became the public

2344
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:34,940
relations move to start all of
the wars. Of course, we know

2345
02:13:34,940 --> 02:13:39,620
West Clark seven, the big ones
by 2003 we needed to have Iraq,

2346
02:13:39,620 --> 02:13:45,640
Syria and Iran in 2004 This
isn't discussed very much. Seven

2347
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:50,020
more countries join NATO,
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia,

2348
02:13:50,020 --> 02:13:54,460
Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia and
Slovenia. Remember, no

2349
02:13:54,460 --> 02:14:00,220
expansion. Russia. Na now, who
is ambassador to NATO in 2005

2350
02:14:02,860 --> 02:14:06,780
you? You'll never get who?
Victoria Newland. Oh, my God,

2351
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:11,580
you're kidding. Then we have in
2008 well, that Bush was no

2352
02:14:11,580 --> 02:14:14,460
good. Let's bring in our hope
and change. Here's President

2353
02:14:14,460 --> 02:14:20,420
Obama, and who becomes Secretary
of State under Obama, Hillary

2354
02:14:20,420 --> 02:14:23,900
Clinton, and who was the
spokeshole for the Secretary of

2355
02:14:23,900 --> 02:14:28,640
State. Hillary Clinton, ah,
Victoria Nuland. She gets a lot

2356
02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:32,600
of work she does. Then we
switched out Hillary for

2357
02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:36,440
watermelon head Kerry and
Newland became Assistant

2358
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:41,440
Secretary of State and the point
person on Ukraine. So then 2014

2359
02:14:42,460 --> 02:14:46,240
Victoria Newland coordinates the
coup that we have her on the

2360
02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:49,720
phone call f the EU, hey Clark,
and

2361
02:14:49,720 --> 02:14:53,080
John C Dvorak: then with our CIA
director, somehow, for some

2362
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:57,640
reason, in Ukraine, hanging
around eating donuts and

2363
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:00,480
Adam Curry: cookies and oh,
we'll bring in. Biden, he'll,

2364
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:04,320
he'll, he'll, he'll deliver.
He'll midwife this thing. He'll,

2365
02:15:04,380 --> 02:15:07,320
he'll lube the baby. It's all
going to be great. Who else

2366
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:12,000
enters the scene? Sullivan,
Blinken, so we got the whole

2367
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:19,320
team in there. Now, Trump comes
in in 2016 and I, I mean, I

2368
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:25,400
think he was, he was still kind
of perpetuating this policy by

2369
02:15:25,820 --> 02:15:29,180
reluctantly, I guess, but
eventually sending arms to

2370
02:15:29,180 --> 02:15:33,680
Ukraine, though not of the
nuclear variety. And he thought

2371
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:36,200
he had a pretty bragging about
it. And he thought he had a

2372
02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:40,120
pretty good relationship with
with our dancer over there, our

2373
02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:45,640
actor, Zelensky. And right away,
you know, of course, it was a

2374
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:50,080
horrible phone call, and he's no
good, and they went crazy over

2375
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:53,560
Trump not wanting to do what
they wanted him to do. But he

2376
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:58,840
did relent a little bit. So then
we get 2021, Biden. Remember, he

2377
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:03,360
helped over overthrow Ukraine,
all kinds of shenanigans with

2378
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:07,200
this kid. And again, Sullivan
and blink, and everybody's in.

2379
02:16:07,620 --> 02:16:10,380
Putin even tries to get a peace
treaty. Oh, let's send him.

2380
02:16:10,380 --> 02:16:14,700
Boris Johnson to intervene. It's
the same policies, the same

2381
02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:18,480
people. And again, Newland got
promoted. She was on point for

2382
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:23,960
the war of 2022 Biden calling
for regime change in Russia. And

2383
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:29,480
now, do we understand and do we
find it strange or not that Dick

2384
02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:32,180
Cheney endorses Kamala Harris

2385
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:36,020
John C Dvorak: this? Wow, this
like a shaggy dog story. That

2386
02:16:36,020 --> 02:16:36,860
was good. Thank

2387
02:16:36,860 --> 02:16:37,760
Adam Curry: you. Thank you. This

2388
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:40,960
John C Dvorak: is the reality. I
was waiting. You were waiting.

2389
02:16:40,960 --> 02:16:41,740
You're waiting. Where's

2390
02:16:41,740 --> 02:16:43,540
Adam Curry: he gonna end it? He
better end it. Now.

2391
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,000
John C Dvorak: I was thinking,
where's he going with this? I

2392
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:48,280
thought it might be something,
just a minor thing, but to bring

2393
02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:52,300
it back to Cheney, that's it,
and him endorsing Kamala Harris,

2394
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:56,080
which is an abomination for any
Republican at his level,

2395
02:16:56,080 --> 02:17:00,100
exactly. Yes, congratulations.
That's one of the best tales

2396
02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:00,900
you've told so

2397
02:17:00,900 --> 02:17:04,200
Adam Curry: far, when a rare
compliment,

2398
02:17:04,559 --> 02:17:07,079
John C Dvorak: it was a good was
worth complimenting. It was

2399
02:17:07,079 --> 02:17:10,139
good. Yes, indeed, in fact, that
you nailed it. Thank you. And

2400
02:17:10,139 --> 02:17:13,799
our den, our dude named people,
our feet on the ground are named

2401
02:17:13,919 --> 02:17:17,399
Muhammad. And everyone knows
this is going on. Anyone who's

2402
02:17:17,699 --> 02:17:21,199
got a clue knows this is going
on. And then people in the

2403
02:17:21,199 --> 02:17:24,859
Middle East, generally speaking,
can see through a lot of this

2404
02:17:24,859 --> 02:17:25,399
stuff.

2405
02:17:25,820 --> 02:17:32,360
Adam Curry: I remember I was in
Holland, and it was Bush one,

2406
02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:34,580
and who was he running against?

2407
02:17:36,260 --> 02:17:38,780
John C Dvorak: Who was the
Dukakis? Was it one? Yes, yeah,

2408
02:17:38,780 --> 02:17:42,040
yes. I think was that the caucus
in the tank, that's it.

2409
02:17:42,100 --> 02:17:44,620
Adam Curry: And I remember
being, you know, my buddy Ben,

2410
02:17:44,620 --> 02:17:49,360
Ben Cohen, who had the swarma,
the swarma joint in Amsterdam.

2411
02:17:49,360 --> 02:17:51,400
We, I used to talk about him
back in the day. You may not

2412
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:54,640
remember, I don't remember. And
I and, well, this is before we

2413
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:57,760
were doing the show. No, you
definitely won't remember that.

2414
02:17:57,820 --> 02:18:00,400
No, but I talked about him many
times after. It doesn't matter.

2415
02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:03,840
And that was, you know, I was
young, I was on TV, I was

2416
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:07,620
popular. I'm like, Yeah, I'm in
teen beat magazine. All,

2417
02:18:07,860 --> 02:18:10,560
John C Dvorak: you're a hot
Tiger. I'm a hottie. I'm

2418
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:14,400
Adam Curry: a hottie. Yes, I'm
the heartthrob of the week in

2419
02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:18,960
the Dutch Tiger. Now you're 60,
yeah, don't get me started,

2420
02:18:18,960 --> 02:18:19,380
Jason.

2421
02:18:19,379 --> 02:18:22,399
John C Dvorak: Now you're the
same age as walls.

2422
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:24,800
Adam Curry: I'm actually, I
think I'm a little older than

2423
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:25,340
walls.

2424
02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:28,040
John C Dvorak: I think he's that
guy looks like he's 90, so

2425
02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:29,720
you're in good shape. And so

2426
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:32,540
Adam Curry: this is kind of a
hat tip to our dude named

2427
02:18:32,540 --> 02:18:36,080
Mohammed, so Ben and his
brother, I learned a little bit

2428
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:40,340
of Hebrew, you know, because he
was a real Israeli. Now, Shiro

2429
02:18:40,340 --> 02:18:45,880
team, all these important words,
I ate apples with honey on Rosh

2430
02:18:45,880 --> 02:18:51,040
Hashanah and but he and his
brothers were always talking

2431
02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:54,580
about politics, always, always.
And I couldn't understand most,

2432
02:18:54,580 --> 02:18:59,980
but I picked up a lot along the
way. And I remember on because

2433
02:18:59,980 --> 02:19:04,380
why you do it for a living? Yes,
always had the TV on, always on,

2434
02:19:04,380 --> 02:19:10,380
CNN and so. And I knew nothing
about the world. I knew Tina

2435
02:19:10,380 --> 02:19:13,140
Turner, David Bowie, I was on
top of that world. I knew

2436
02:19:13,140 --> 02:19:16,980
nothing about was happening. And
there was a bush, I think either

2437
02:19:17,100 --> 02:19:20,280
after I can just remember I'm in
his living room like he says,

2438
02:19:20,640 --> 02:19:22,580
there's that Bush who said,
Yeah, I think it'll be good for

2439
02:19:22,580 --> 02:19:26,180
America. And he looks at me, his
head whips around, what he's the

2440
02:19:26,180 --> 02:19:29,060
biggest criminal in the world.
Don't you know that he owns all

2441
02:19:29,060 --> 02:19:36,620
the oil? And I was so I'm like,
Really, I had no idea. And I

2442
02:19:36,620 --> 02:19:40,720
think most of the world is like
that still today. Watch the

2443
02:19:40,720 --> 02:19:47,140
Today Show, read your People
Magazine, and so yes, people in

2444
02:19:47,140 --> 02:19:50,320
the region have known this
forever and have discussed it,

2445
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:54,220
and it's been withheld from us,
and still no, it has to

2446
02:19:54,220 --> 02:19:57,400
John C Dvorak: be withheld from
us. And just as a little extra

2447
02:19:57,400 --> 02:19:58,480
room to be withheld.

2448
02:19:58,540 --> 02:20:00,720
Unknown: Hello. Mm, hmm. And

2449
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:03,480
Adam Curry: along the site the
same sidetrack. And now you kind

2450
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:07,140
of understand why Victoria numes
is so beside herself about

2451
02:20:07,140 --> 02:20:12,600
Putin, because she was part of
the you know, we, we, we own the

2452
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:15,660
world. We are the world. We are
the children. We are running the

2453
02:20:15,660 --> 02:20:18,900
show this and what, what is this
guy? He's ruining it, not just

2454
02:20:18,900 --> 02:20:21,860
that is a troublemaker. We were
raping that. We were raping

2455
02:20:21,860 --> 02:20:25,580
Russia. We had everyone was in
there making money. Good. We

2456
02:20:25,580 --> 02:20:27,680
were, yeah, but we thought
everyone got kicked out.

2457
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:32,660
Everyone did. Everyone's
paycheck got slashed. And you

2458
02:20:32,660 --> 02:20:33,500
know, it was,

2459
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:36,260
John C Dvorak: it was the NGOs
kicked out. All the connections

2460
02:20:36,260 --> 02:20:38,180
to the oil industry kicked out.
It

2461
02:20:38,180 --> 02:20:40,600
Adam Curry: was a great Gambit
while at last. And then this,

2462
02:20:40,780 --> 02:20:44,680
this Putin guy came in and
ruined it. And you remember how

2463
02:20:44,860 --> 02:20:49,660
Biden, and we've forgotten about
it, but the narrative was, all

2464
02:20:49,660 --> 02:20:52,540
right, CIA, you know, if you're
in Russia, you can contact the

2465
02:20:52,540 --> 02:20:56,800
CIA, you can work for us. And
Putin, oh, he's got cancer. He's

2466
02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:58,420
got Parkinson's. He's not gonna
last.

2467
02:20:58,660 --> 02:21:00,900
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, he got
into a train wreck. He's almost

2468
02:21:00,900 --> 02:21:03,540
dead. You got a broken back. He

2469
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:06,240
Adam Curry: doesn't look good.
It's no good. There's

2470
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:08,280
John C Dvorak: a million things
wrong with Putin. Yeah,

2471
02:21:08,340 --> 02:21:11,340
Adam Curry: they can't even do a
proper regime change anymore.

2472
02:21:11,340 --> 02:21:13,560
You know why? Because the
Russian people like him. They

2473
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:17,340
actually like us. The Russian
people like Yeah, we like you

2474
02:21:17,340 --> 02:21:19,620
guys. How are you doing? Good
guys? Doing America. Send some

2475
02:21:19,620 --> 02:21:23,420
more MTV our way. We love
Europe, Dr Pepper and

2476
02:21:23,420 --> 02:21:28,280
McDonald's. We just changed the
name McDonald's the ski,

2477
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:32,660
McDonald's ski. So we're not
falling for this nonsense,

2478
02:21:32,660 --> 02:21:37,340
which, just as an aside, started
33 years ago. Just throw out a

2479
02:21:37,340 --> 02:21:38,780
little magic number for you.

2480
02:21:40,340 --> 02:21:43,540
John C Dvorak: There you go.
That's a it was a good little

2481
02:21:43,540 --> 02:21:44,440
exposition there.

2482
02:21:44,500 --> 02:21:48,580
Adam Curry: Thank you. I have a
surprising clip here. Since you

2483
02:21:48,580 --> 02:21:54,220
brought this in the last week,
the third hour of the CBS This

2484
02:21:54,220 --> 02:21:56,320
Morning. Is that? What it was?
That horrible

2485
02:21:56,320 --> 02:21:58,960
John C Dvorak: CBS This
morning's new third hour with

2486
02:21:58,960 --> 02:22:02,160
the with the two ding bats, and
they, and one of them, by the

2487
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:05,940
way, the guy, Dokka Pol, or
whatever his name is, is married

2488
02:22:05,940 --> 02:22:10,800
to Katie tur, really, and he's
had a vasectomy, and he brags

2489
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:14,700
about it. Does he look like a
lesbian? And not yet, for fairly

2490
02:22:14,700 --> 02:22:17,820
research, so he will totally
look like a lesbian coming. It's

2491
02:22:17,820 --> 02:22:21,440
coming. And he and I was looking
him up to do some background on

2492
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:24,920
him and Katie Tur was way it
seems that she was raised by two

2493
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:26,180
lesbians. Well,

2494
02:22:26,180 --> 02:22:30,500
Adam Curry: her dad is trans,
well, okay, and,

2495
02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:37,040
John C Dvorak: and her middle
name is bear, bear B, E, A, R,

2496
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:44,320
huh, Katie bear turd. Katie
bertur, there's an

2497
02:22:44,380 --> 02:22:48,160
Adam Curry: interesting
documentary about her dad. He

2498
02:22:48,160 --> 02:22:52,180
was a very famous chopper pilot
journalist in Los Angeles, and

2499
02:22:52,180 --> 02:22:54,700
then one day he decided, all
right, now I want to wear a

2500
02:22:54,700 --> 02:22:59,080
dress. I'm a chick, yeah, it's a
very it's things on

2501
02:22:59,080 --> 02:23:01,380
John C Dvorak: YouTube. But then
he married, yeah, but he, I

2502
02:23:01,380 --> 02:23:04,320
think, Well, I think she's
estranged from him, yeah,

2503
02:23:04,320 --> 02:23:06,000
because she's estranged from
one, she's

2504
02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:06,900
Adam Curry: a transphobe.

2505
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:09,840
Unknown: She is,

2506
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,800
Adam Curry: yeah, she knows she
she likes it when it happens to

2507
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:16,140
little kids. She doesn't like it
when it happens to her own

2508
02:23:16,140 --> 02:23:18,780
family. That's, that's what I
said. No, that's, well, that's

2509
02:23:18,780 --> 02:23:21,380
pretty that was my takeaway.
That was my takeaway from the

2510
02:23:21,380 --> 02:23:25,580
documentary. It was, I had seen
this. It's on Netflix. Maybe

2511
02:23:25,820 --> 02:23:29,900
I've seen I was like, this is I
had no idea, yeah, oh, she, she

2512
02:23:29,900 --> 02:23:35,960
completely shunned him, yeah,
uh, yeah. So what was the point

2513
02:23:35,960 --> 02:23:36,620
of Katie Turner? I

2514
02:23:36,620 --> 02:23:39,440
John C Dvorak: don't think
daughters in general like the

2515
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:46,720
idea of their dad not being
their dad forever. Yeah?

2516
02:23:46,960 --> 02:23:51,100
Adam Curry: Witness Bruce Jenner
and the Kardashians. They kicked

2517
02:23:51,100 --> 02:23:57,460
him out of the house. Go live in
your own house. Anyway, they

2518
02:23:57,460 --> 02:24:00,100
were having trouble explaining
how airplanes work.

2519
02:24:01,120 --> 02:24:04,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah. What's an
airfoil? Well, turns airplanes,

2520
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,620
it's a mystery. It's a mystery
how they fly.

2521
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:12,420
Adam Curry: Turns out, this is
indeed a mystery. This is from

2522
02:24:12,420 --> 02:24:16,260
the Scientific American podcast.
You know, Scientific American,

2523
02:24:16,260 --> 02:24:19,560
John C Dvorak: but which and the
Scientific American around 1985

2524
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:25,940
I think or 86 went woke the
magazine has been downhill ever

2525
02:24:25,940 --> 02:24:29,000
since, and it basically stinks

2526
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:32,600
Adam Curry: and they can't
explain so this doesn't surprise

2527
02:24:32,600 --> 02:24:35,000
me. They can't explain how it
works, either.

2528
02:24:35,180 --> 02:24:37,460
Unknown: How do planes stay in
the air? Not even Einstein could

2529
02:24:37,460 --> 02:24:39,980
figure that one out. After
devising his general theory of

2530
02:24:39,980 --> 02:24:42,520
relativity, he turned to a
different problem, how plants

2531
02:24:42,520 --> 02:24:45,640
fly. He even designed his own
wing called the cat's back wing,

2532
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:48,640
but when it was tested, the
unimpressed pilot reported that

2533
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:52,300
it flew like a quote, unquote,
pregnant dunk. Yeah, that seemed

2534
02:24:52,300 --> 02:24:54,580
to have been the last time
Einstein grappled with

2535
02:24:54,580 --> 02:24:57,400
aeronautics. From there, he
focused on other things, like

2536
02:24:57,400 --> 02:25:00,300
finding a unified theory of
everything, which apparent. Was

2537
02:25:00,300 --> 02:25:03,300
easier than figuring out how
planes fly. Now, make no

2538
02:25:03,300 --> 02:25:05,520
mistake, we do actually
understand how heavier than air

2539
02:25:05,520 --> 02:25:09,240
flight works quite well. There
are two classical theories, each

2540
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:12,840
is correct in application, but
neither fully explains flight

2541
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:15,240
without leaving some unsightly
loose threads. They are

2542
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:18,960
incomplete. The first dates to
1738, via the mathematician

2543
02:25:18,960 --> 02:25:22,640
Daniel Bernoulli, who modeled
air as a fluid, Bernoulli

2544
02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:25,520
postulated that a fluids
pressure decreases as its

2545
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:29,180
velocity increases, and vice
versa. So when air flows over a

2546
02:25:29,180 --> 02:25:32,420
curved wing, it moves faster
over the top than the bottom.

2547
02:25:32,600 --> 02:25:35,060
That generates lift. But
bernoullis theory did not

2548
02:25:35,060 --> 02:25:39,560
adequately explain why planes
can still fly inverted, or why

2549
02:25:39,560 --> 02:25:42,400
their wings can work even when
they're flat and not curved at

2550
02:25:42,400 --> 02:25:45,400
all. The second theory of flight
traces back to our good friend

2551
02:25:45,400 --> 02:25:48,460
Isaac Newton and his classical
mechanics. Every action has an

2552
02:25:48,460 --> 02:25:51,760
equal and opposite reaction,
right? Well, air has mass, and

2553
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:54,940
so when air is displaced by a
wing cutting through it, other

2554
02:25:54,940 --> 02:25:58,180
air rises up underneath it, and
that is lift. Newton's theory

2555
02:25:58,180 --> 02:26:00,900
very nicely explains what
bernoullis Couldn't like why

2556
02:26:00,900 --> 02:26:04,020
inverted flight works and why
Wings of many different shapes

2557
02:26:04,020 --> 02:26:06,480
can still let you fly, but it
doesn't fully explain why

2558
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:10,020
there's a region of low pressure
atop the wing during flight,

2559
02:26:10,020 --> 02:26:13,020
regardless of its shape. In many
respects, modern approaches to

2560
02:26:13,020 --> 02:26:15,720
modeling and explaining heavier
than air flight trace back to

2561
02:26:15,720 --> 02:26:18,960
these two competing classic
ideas. The problem is that real

2562
02:26:18,960 --> 02:26:22,580
world systems are messy and
complex and defy being squeezed

2563
02:26:22,580 --> 02:26:26,420
into a shortly simple
explanation like this video. So

2564
02:26:26,480 --> 02:26:28,940
where does this leave us? Well,
it may be true that not even

2565
02:26:28,940 --> 02:26:32,720
aeronautical engineers fully
understand how planes fly. Rest

2566
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:35,420
assured, they understand well
enough to make flying in one

2567
02:26:35,420 --> 02:26:37,880
very safe and very routine. I
find

2568
02:26:37,880 --> 02:26:41,020
Adam Curry: it interesting that
Scientific American was able to

2569
02:26:41,020 --> 02:26:46,360
explain how WTC seven fell, but
they can't explain why airplanes

2570
02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:47,080
stay in the air.

2571
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:54,280
John C Dvorak: I find this whole
thing somewhat anti

2572
02:26:54,280 --> 02:26:59,020
intellectual. Yes, these
discussions that all of a

2573
02:26:59,020 --> 02:27:01,080
sudden, why are they even
talking about this. We know how

2574
02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:06,240
they fly airfoils. And, yeah,
you could say plane can fly

2575
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:10,380
upside down if it has enough
power. I mean, a rocket flies it

2576
02:27:10,380 --> 02:27:13,320
doesn't have an airfoil. Well,
you go, how's that work?

2577
02:27:14,520 --> 02:27:16,740
Adam Curry: Here's something I
did not know until just

2578
02:27:16,740 --> 02:27:24,680
recently, Fredericksburg, Texas
native Jacob Brodbeck. Brodbeck

2579
02:27:24,860 --> 02:27:35,240
who moved to Fredericksburg from
Germany in 1846 in 1860 he flew

2580
02:27:35,780 --> 02:27:41,440
with an airplane with a wing.
Now this is 44 years before the

2581
02:27:41,440 --> 02:27:45,580
Wright Brothers, with their
Kitty Hawk design, and a model

2582
02:27:45,580 --> 02:27:52,360
of this airplane is at the
Gillespie airport, FBO. Now it

2583
02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:55,180
only he only flew for 100 feet
until he crashed into his

2584
02:27:55,180 --> 02:27:59,920
brother's chicken coop. But he
did fly before the Wright

2585
02:27:59,920 --> 02:28:04,680
brothers, and they used the same
he had the wing design. He had a

2586
02:28:04,740 --> 02:28:07,860
he had a he had a giant spring,
so that where the Wright

2587
02:28:07,860 --> 02:28:10,200
brothers had a, you know,
bicycle mechanism where they

2588
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:13,500
were pedaling, he had just a
prop with the spring. So went,

2589
02:28:14,460 --> 02:28:16,920
and then it crashed, but it
flew.

2590
02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:20,840
John C Dvorak: Bobby doggone,
yeah,

2591
02:28:20,840 --> 02:28:25,220
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
that's why we celebrate him. He

2592
02:28:25,460 --> 02:28:27,860
never got the recognition he
deserved.

2593
02:28:28,460 --> 02:28:30,920
John C Dvorak: Frederick's
pretty common and everything,

2594
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:35,360
you should find some predecessor
to pretty much any invention,

2595
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:36,320
yeah,

2596
02:28:36,320 --> 02:28:40,760
Adam Curry: like podcasting.
Hey, man, I invented

2597
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:43,660
John C Dvorak: some point,
they've been trying to cut you

2598
02:28:43,660 --> 02:28:48,640
out as a picture Forever,
forever, if it wasn't for me,

2599
02:28:48,700 --> 02:28:51,760
Adam Curry: that's right, and I
promoting you. I appreciate it

2600
02:28:51,820 --> 02:28:55,720
on the Wikipedia relentlessly. I
might add on the Wikipedia for

2601
02:28:55,720 --> 02:29:00,540
podcasting. There's people like,
No, I was I? I digitized my

2602
02:29:00,540 --> 02:29:04,200
radio shows on cassette and put
them on the internet, and I

2603
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:08,040
invented podcasting. Yeah, yeah,
there'll be a lot of that. Oh,

2604
02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:12,180
there is a lot of that. It's
okay. There's no check in this,

2605
02:29:12,180 --> 02:29:15,180
by the way, in case you just
there's, there's no check,

2606
02:29:15,180 --> 02:29:18,720
there's only the honor and even
that, even that's taken away

2607
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:18,960
from

2608
02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:21,800
John C Dvorak: me. They tried to
anyway. Yes, they did. Let's

2609
02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:23,600
play a couple of tick tock
clips. Oh,

2610
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:26,180
Adam Curry: why not? It's has?
It's been way too long since

2611
02:29:26,180 --> 02:29:27,500
I've had some tick tock clips.

2612
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:29,960
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these, I
love these tick tock clips,

2613
02:29:29,960 --> 02:29:32,720
because tick tock is really the
voice of the voice of the

2614
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:33,080
people,

2615
02:29:33,260 --> 02:29:36,740
Adam Curry: the voice the voice
of the people. Yes. And as we

2616
02:29:36,740 --> 02:29:40,960
know, tick tock and and turban
tossing will take down the

2617
02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:42,160
Iranian regime.

2618
02:29:43,360 --> 02:29:46,240
John C Dvorak: I have two, okay,
I have the I have what's called

2619
02:29:46,240 --> 02:29:50,380
a says, bland man, but it's a
black man. He's a black guy, and

2620
02:29:50,380 --> 02:29:53,500
he's just speaking. Sheryl
Hodge, I sent this to Mo and

2621
02:29:53,500 --> 02:29:57,580
he's he said, Yeah, well, yeah,
people have a clue something.

2622
02:29:57,580 --> 02:29:57,760
What

2623
02:29:57,820 --> 02:30:01,200
Adam Curry: did why did you send
this? Mo and what did you think

2624
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:02,280
John C Dvorak: of this guy?

2625
02:30:04,740 --> 02:30:07,620
Unknown: If I were a rich white
racist that hated black people,

2626
02:30:07,620 --> 02:30:10,440
this is what I would do. I would
handpick young black boys,

2627
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:12,720
mostly from single mother
households who want to be

2628
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:15,900
rappers, and pay them millions
of dollars to make music geared

2629
02:30:15,900 --> 02:30:18,120
to destroying the black
communities. I would make young

2630
02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:20,840
black women become dependent on
government assistance, but only

2631
02:30:20,840 --> 02:30:23,360
if there's no father in the
home. I would dump drugs into

2632
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:26,120
poor black communities,
incentivize them to sell it and

2633
02:30:26,120 --> 02:30:28,220
use it to cope with their
problems, then put them in

2634
02:30:28,220 --> 02:30:30,800
prison. I would turn black women
against black men, making them

2635
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:33,440
disrespect them and hate them. I
will use black celebrities,

2636
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:37,100
daytime TV, magazines and media
to help push this. I will then

2637
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:40,040
poison their food and make it
cheap so that poor blacks can

2638
02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:42,880
afford to buy it, which will
slowly kill them off. Then I'll

2639
02:30:42,880 --> 02:30:45,700
implement liberal politicians
and celebrities. They'll sell

2640
02:30:45,700 --> 02:30:48,160
them truthful sounding lies.
They'll pretend to relate to

2641
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:50,380
them. They'll make them think
that Republicans are only for

2642
02:30:50,380 --> 02:30:53,200
the rich and we're for the poor,
even though we live in big

2643
02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:56,200
houses and safe neighborhoods
far away from you poor blacks.

2644
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:59,080
And for my final trick, I'll cut
them off at the source. I'll

2645
02:30:59,080 --> 02:31:02,640
stop them from reproducing. I'll
make abortion their Get Out of

2646
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:05,640
Jail Free card. I won't even
have to kill Black people. I'll

2647
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,640
just stop them from ever being
born. And now make sure black

2648
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,940
women have abortions at a much
higher rate than white women.

2649
02:31:11,940 --> 02:31:14,520
They'll never suspect a thing,
because we'll make up some

2650
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:19,200
catchy slogan, something like,
my body, my choice. Yeah,

2651
02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:23,360
that'll get them. We'll keep
them broke, emotional, childless

2652
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:27,740
and fatherless, and the best
part is they'll still vote for

2653
02:31:27,800 --> 02:31:27,980
us.

2654
02:31:32,780 --> 02:31:34,580
Adam Curry: Well,
congratulations. You just summed

2655
02:31:34,580 --> 02:31:39,680
up 100 episodes over 350 hours
of mofax with Adam curry in one

2656
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:41,560
minute and 28 seconds, that's

2657
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:43,960
John C Dvorak: yeah, so he felt
this is similarly,

2658
02:31:43,960 --> 02:31:45,100
Adam Curry: I'm sure he did

2659
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:50,680
John C Dvorak: so, so that was
that. And I the other one I

2660
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:54,820
have, which is, you know, over
the dinner table this last week,

2661
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:59,260
we had JC lamenting, and I think
it was backed up by pretty much

2662
02:31:59,260 --> 02:32:05,160
everybody. You can't hire Gen Z
people because they're they're

2663
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:08,220
asocial, they're they're not
socialized correctly. They're

2664
02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:11,700
dumb. They don't know that you
should show up for work on time.

2665
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:15,240
They're they feel that they
should be getting more money

2666
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:17,760
than they're getting. And it's
just the whole thing is a mess.

2667
02:32:18,060 --> 02:32:22,820
And I thought that this woman
and her quarters lament, uh,

2668
02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:27,260
pretty much exemplify what I
would think was a Gen Z dummy.

2669
02:32:28,220 --> 02:32:32,240
Unknown: Here's a I'm an idiot,
and here's why my laundry

2670
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:38,240
machine takes quarters
naturally. I'm like, Where does

2671
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:41,140
one just get quarters? So I'm
like, Okay, I'm gonna go on

2672
02:32:41,140 --> 02:32:46,660
Amazon buy quarters. You can
buy, like, rolls of quarters on

2673
02:32:46,660 --> 02:32:53,680
Amazon. I'm like, perfect. I'll
do that. I'm just like, 72 rolls

2674
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:58,180
for $10 that the math doesn't
equal up, but that's a score.

2675
02:32:58,180 --> 02:32:58,960
Like, I'm getting

2676
02:32:59,800 --> 02:33:00,580
1772

2677
02:33:01,540 --> 02:33:07,800
rolls of quarter sleeves and
quarters in them for $10 like,

2678
02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:12,360
I'm like, okay, stupid Amazon.
Zoe money. Get the package

2679
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:15,420
empty.

2680
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:16,740
It's just

2681
02:33:16,740 --> 02:33:23,180
72 plain quarter roll sleeves
with no quarters in them. I

2682
02:33:25,460 --> 02:33:27,020
don't really know what I was
thinking.

2683
02:33:33,740 --> 02:33:39,980
Adam Curry: I just went to
Amazon. You can buy $10 worth of

2684
02:33:39,980 --> 02:33:46,780
quarters 2024, uh, uncirculated
quarters, I will say 2499

2685
02:33:52,300 --> 02:33:56,920
and yes, 999, for 72 piece
performed, coin wrappers.

2686
02:33:57,700 --> 02:33:59,680
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she figured
that the rappers came with the

2687
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:05,700
quarters in them for 999, no,
the math doesn't make sense, but

2688
02:34:05,700 --> 02:34:09,120
they're taking a beating. I'm
all I'm all in this kind of

2689
02:34:09,180 --> 02:34:11,460
idiocy is beyond not

2690
02:34:11,460 --> 02:34:14,820
Adam Curry: all Gen Z are
idiots. John and many of them,

2691
02:34:14,820 --> 02:34:15,780
listen to our show.

2692
02:34:15,780 --> 02:34:19,020
John C Dvorak: No, we have no
there. There's no such thing as

2693
02:34:19,020 --> 02:34:23,840
an all idiot generation. It's
just that there's too many of

2694
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:26,300
them. And the people, the ones
who listen to our show, who are

2695
02:34:26,300 --> 02:34:30,080
sharp, I'm assuming, I think
most of them are, yeah, they all

2696
02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:31,160
agree with this.

2697
02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:37,100
Adam Curry: They don't vote, so
it doesn't matter.

2698
02:34:37,880 --> 02:34:40,660
John C Dvorak: So California's
got the plastic bags. I got a

2699
02:34:40,660 --> 02:34:43,540
plastic couple clips of the
plastic bag. You know, we had

2700
02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:47,800
made plastic bags illegal? Yes,
yes. And then we made them

2701
02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:50,560
illegal again. Why did we make
them illegal again? We made them

2702
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:54,640
illegal in 2017 2018, and, well,

2703
02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:56,800
Adam Curry: I thought you made
so can you use paper bags?

2704
02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:58,840
You're not allowed to use paper
bags. No. Paper

2705
02:34:58,840 --> 02:35:01,320
John C Dvorak: is fine papers.
But we used to always have paper

2706
02:35:01,320 --> 02:35:04,260
bags before this the plastic
bag. Are

2707
02:35:04,260 --> 02:35:07,140
Adam Curry: they completely
outlawed? Or can you pay to use

2708
02:35:07,140 --> 02:35:07,500
them?

2709
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:10,740
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, this is
this all covered in the story.

2710
02:35:10,860 --> 02:35:11,340
10 years

2711
02:35:11,340 --> 02:35:14,580
Unknown: ago, California
approved the first statewide ban

2712
02:35:14,580 --> 02:35:18,480
on plastic bags. And then
something unexpected happened

2713
02:35:18,780 --> 02:35:22,220
over the years, the state
reported more plastic grocery

2714
02:35:22,220 --> 02:35:26,060
bags and landfills now
California is trying again with

2715
02:35:26,060 --> 02:35:30,020
a new law NPR. Bill Chappell has
been reporting on this story.

2716
02:35:30,140 --> 02:35:33,860
Hey, Bill, Hey, glad to be here.
So Bill, walk us through this

2717
02:35:33,860 --> 02:35:37,760
new California law. What does it
do? Exactly? Well,

2718
02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:42,640
starting in 2026 when customers
go to a grocery store or lots of

2719
02:35:42,640 --> 02:35:45,340
other retailers, they're going
to have less options than they

2720
02:35:45,340 --> 02:35:48,640
used to have. They're going to
need to pay at least 10 cents

2721
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:52,960
for a paper bag, or put stuff in
a reusable bag, or just carry it

2722
02:35:52,960 --> 02:35:53,980
out in their hands.

2723
02:35:54,520 --> 02:35:58,360
As we mentioned, California
already had a ban. So what went

2724
02:35:58,360 --> 02:35:58,840
wrong with it?

2725
02:35:59,320 --> 02:36:02,700
The state was trying to ban the
single use, thin bag that

2726
02:36:02,700 --> 02:36:08,040
everybody has seen and likely
used. But stores could give

2727
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:12,120
shoppers different plastic bags
for a small fee, just 10 cents,

2728
02:36:12,360 --> 02:36:16,680
but those bags were thicker, and
in theory, they were reusable,

2729
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:21,320
but in practice, that became an
even bulkier type of bag waste.

2730
02:36:21,620 --> 02:36:21,980
So

2731
02:36:22,040 --> 02:36:25,220
those thicker plastic bags were
like some sort of loophole for

2732
02:36:25,220 --> 02:36:26,420
grocery stores or something.

2733
02:36:26,780 --> 02:36:30,080
Well, that's how it kind of
played out. You know, this law

2734
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:34,580
was first passed in 2014 and
then there was this long delay

2735
02:36:34,580 --> 02:36:39,080
of getting it actually in force.
What basically happened was

2736
02:36:39,500 --> 02:36:43,840
these thicker bags sort of came
on the scene during that delay,

2737
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:47,260
is my understanding. And the
state's recycling agency

2738
02:36:47,260 --> 02:36:52,900
CalRecycle, says nearly 100,000
more tons of plastic bags went

2739
02:36:52,900 --> 02:36:57,520
into landfills in 2021 than in
2018 so if the overall goal was

2740
02:36:57,520 --> 02:37:01,260
to cut down on how many of these
bags were going to landfills, it

2741
02:37:01,260 --> 02:37:05,340
totally did not work. I blame
that. I blame Californians. You

2742
02:37:05,340 --> 02:37:08,040
guys are polluting the earth.
You horrible calories.

2743
02:37:08,100 --> 02:37:10,560
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
argue this point with you. This

2744
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:11,580
Adam Curry: is no good. What

2745
02:37:11,580 --> 02:37:13,620
John C Dvorak: you're doing.
Stupid idea of banning the

2746
02:37:13,620 --> 02:37:16,140
little bags in the first place,
and they get nothing but these

2747
02:37:16,140 --> 02:37:18,720
thick bags, which are now double
use, but you can use them over

2748
02:37:18,720 --> 02:37:21,140
and over, but nobody does that.
They just throw them out,

2749
02:37:21,140 --> 02:37:23,240
Adam Curry: yeah? Where you used
to pick up dog poop and then

2750
02:37:23,240 --> 02:37:23,900
throw it out?

2751
02:37:24,500 --> 02:37:26,960
John C Dvorak: Yeah? Well, here
we go at Part Two, explaining

2752
02:37:26,960 --> 02:37:30,680
Unknown: just a bit more. Ban
also took place just before the

2753
02:37:30,680 --> 02:37:35,120
covid 19 pandemic came in,
experts started wondering, like

2754
02:37:35,120 --> 02:37:37,820
trying to figure out how the
coronavirus was spreading,

2755
02:37:37,940 --> 02:37:40,840
reusable bags were actually
banned from grocery stores for a

2756
02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:44,260
while because there was a fear
that bags could spread covid 19.

2757
02:37:45,400 --> 02:37:49,780
Okay, so forgive me, but what is
so bad about plastic bags?

2758
02:37:50,320 --> 02:37:54,880
The plastic bag industry says
These bags are recyclable, but

2759
02:37:54,880 --> 02:37:58,060
that has been something that's
been said for years and not done

2760
02:37:58,060 --> 02:38:01,380
for years. So when I talked to
Cal Recycle, the state recycle

2761
02:38:01,380 --> 02:38:04,740
agency, they told me they had
not identified facilities that

2762
02:38:04,740 --> 02:38:09,120
recycle plastic bags in the
state of California. So these

2763
02:38:09,180 --> 02:38:11,940
bags are, you know, they're
thin, they're soft, they're

2764
02:38:11,940 --> 02:38:15,300
really hard to process. They
tend to jam up equipment, and

2765
02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:18,780
that gets really expensive to
fix, and shuts down a line where

2766
02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:21,560
people have to go in and
manually, like take stuff out.

2767
02:38:21,860 --> 02:38:25,040
So California officials are just
saying there's a public

2768
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:30,020
perception in some quarters that
plastics can be recycled really

2769
02:38:30,020 --> 02:38:32,300
easily, but they're saying
that's just not the case.

2770
02:38:32,900 --> 02:38:36,320
And how does this ban fit into
the bigger fight against, you

2771
02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:38,360
know, just plastic waste in
general,

2772
02:38:39,020 --> 02:38:42,400
there's a lot of momentum right
now for taking responsibility

2773
02:38:42,400 --> 02:38:46,240
off of consumers and shifting it
toward companies like toward

2774
02:38:46,240 --> 02:38:50,620
plastic producers and oil and
gas giants like ExxonMobil that

2775
02:38:50,620 --> 02:38:54,280
derived the polymers. So
Governor Gavin Newsom signed

2776
02:38:54,280 --> 02:38:57,820
this bill into law in late
September, and the day after

2777
02:38:57,820 --> 02:39:01,140
that, California's Attorney
General sued ExxonMobil, saying

2778
02:39:01,140 --> 02:39:04,560
the company has been deceiving
people for years about how

2779
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:09,300
recyclable plastic even is. So
this ban doesn't start to affect

2780
02:39:09,300 --> 02:39:13,500
people in stores until 2026 so
there's time for the landscape

2781
02:39:13,500 --> 02:39:15,180
to shift some more between now
and then.

2782
02:39:15,540 --> 02:39:17,100
Oh brother,

2783
02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:19,320
John C Dvorak: Welcome to
California.

2784
02:39:19,980 --> 02:39:22,760
Adam Curry: You know, I, I'm,
I've stopped saying it. I mean,

2785
02:39:22,760 --> 02:39:25,700
you're gonna go down with that
ship. You're gonna go down

2786
02:39:25,700 --> 02:39:28,040
you're going down with that ship
since, oh, well, it's

2787
02:39:28,040 --> 02:39:29,420
John C Dvorak: not going down
yet. Since

2788
02:39:29,420 --> 02:39:31,760
Adam Curry: they brought up, uh,
covid In the beginning of that

2789
02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:33,560
clip, I've been waiting to do
this. And by

2790
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:35,780
John C Dvorak: the way, that
that was a reminder that, if you

2791
02:39:35,780 --> 02:39:38,840
remember, there it is of covid,
if you touch something, you were

2792
02:39:38,840 --> 02:39:43,000
gonna die. Yeah. And it was, I
remember, going to a grocery

2793
02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:47,080
store, and then people all
masked up in this woman with her

2794
02:39:47,080 --> 02:39:50,920
husband, and he grabbed some
some hamburger buns or

2795
02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:54,760
something, and she screamed at
him. Somebody may have touched

2796
02:39:54,760 --> 02:39:59,920
those that packaging, and they
were just freaked out over the.

2797
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,220
And this is the era when you
have to remember the people

2798
02:40:02,220 --> 02:40:08,160
wearing the mask, the visor and
blue gloves. Remember these

2799
02:40:08,160 --> 02:40:10,200
guys? Yes.

2800
02:40:11,880 --> 02:40:13,920
Adam Curry: I mean, I only
remember them from pictures

2801
02:40:13,920 --> 02:40:17,760
because they were in your in
your land in California. No,

2802
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:22,400
John C Dvorak: you had them too.
No. Well, Austin, for sure,

2803
02:40:22,400 --> 02:40:24,560
Adam Curry: Austin, yeah, I
remember the day when I was

2804
02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:27,140
like, I was so sick of I'm not,
I'm going into whole foods

2805
02:40:27,140 --> 02:40:32,180
without a mask. I remember that
day and and no one seemed to

2806
02:40:32,180 --> 02:40:35,900
care. Just one other guy looked
at me he didn't have a mask, and

2807
02:40:35,900 --> 02:40:37,220
went, hey, hey, got your
brother.

2808
02:40:37,220 --> 02:40:38,660
John C Dvorak: Yeah, because
everyone thinks you were

2809
02:40:38,660 --> 02:40:39,020
carrying,

2810
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:45,220
Adam Curry: carrying disease.
I've been waiting for a clip

2811
02:40:45,220 --> 02:40:51,220
about this because I've been
following it, and I have no idea

2812
02:40:51,220 --> 02:40:54,580
who these Japanese dudes are,
who's sitting at the desk and

2813
02:40:54,580 --> 02:40:59,800
the panel, I know the story and
and, and the story is self

2814
02:40:59,800 --> 02:41:05,460
replicating, mRNA. And so I keep
getting emails like, this is

2815
02:41:05,460 --> 02:41:10,560
horrible. This is crazy. This is
mRNA that replicates and that

2816
02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:13,080
spreads to other people. And
it's a story. It's a story, and

2817
02:41:13,620 --> 02:41:18,300
I could not get because a bunch
of Japs, sorry, didn't mean for

2818
02:41:18,300 --> 02:41:20,340
it to come out like that, but
they just,

2819
02:41:21,420 --> 02:41:23,960
John C Dvorak: they're just
sitting there. There goes our

2820
02:41:23,960 --> 02:41:24,980
audience, all

2821
02:41:24,980 --> 02:41:27,380
Adam Curry: three of them. How
do I just talking? It's all

2822
02:41:27,380 --> 02:41:31,400
subtitled, and voiceovers like,
this is no good for the show.

2823
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:36,500
And then I get a clip. It's from
the rescue the Republic rally,

2824
02:41:36,500 --> 02:41:41,500
which took place in Washington,
DC. Not a lot of exposure. I

2825
02:41:41,500 --> 02:41:45,460
think there are about 20,000
people there, but it rained, so

2826
02:41:45,460 --> 02:41:49,420
it kind of sucked. I think that
really put a damper on the whole

2827
02:41:49,900 --> 02:41:55,060
on the whole rally. But Dr
Malone, who doesn't know him, he

2828
02:41:55,060 --> 02:41:58,840
spoke, and he spoke about this
very topic, so I wanted to share

2829
02:41:58,840 --> 02:42:00,360
that with the group. So

2830
02:42:00,360 --> 02:42:03,180
Unknown: here's what's going on.
I just came back from Tokyo,

2831
02:42:03,180 --> 02:42:07,560
where they had a 30,000 person
rally because they're about to

2832
02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:13,680
deploy self replicating RNA
vaccines. Japan is being used as

2833
02:42:13,680 --> 02:42:17,220
the guinea pigs for the world
for this new technology. The

2834
02:42:17,220 --> 02:42:21,320
Japanese people are calling this
the third atomic bomb. This is

2835
02:42:21,320 --> 02:42:25,760
being deployed in a cooperative
agreement between a US company,

2836
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:30,680
our tourists, a Canadian, I'm
sorry, a Australian company

2837
02:42:30,680 --> 02:42:35,540
called CSL, and a Japanese
company. Now, the CEO of the

2838
02:42:35,540 --> 02:42:39,800
Japanese company recently gave a
press conference. What'd he say?

2839
02:42:39,920 --> 02:42:43,480
He said, anybody that is
spreading misinformation, we're

2840
02:42:43,480 --> 02:42:46,720
going to go after him legally.
We're going to try to have them

2841
02:42:46,720 --> 02:42:50,740
jailed if you say anything
against their self replicating.

2842
02:42:50,740 --> 02:42:55,360
RNA vaccine technology that's
never been rigorously tested. We

2843
02:42:55,360 --> 02:42:57,640
don't know if it's going to
infect other people. We don't

2844
02:42:57,640 --> 02:43:00,660
know if it's going to spread. We
know it's going to replicate. We

2845
02:43:00,660 --> 02:43:03,240
don't know if it's going to get
into the brain of the elders in

2846
02:43:03,240 --> 02:43:07,320
Japan, but we do know that if we
say anything about these

2847
02:43:07,320 --> 02:43:11,820
concerns, the CEO is going to
come after us and try to put us

2848
02:43:11,820 --> 02:43:15,420
in jail. That's the new world
order. That's what we're coming

2849
02:43:15,420 --> 02:43:18,960
into. That's what they want to
implement on us. They want to

2850
02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:22,280
shut us down. They want to
prevent us from speaking. They

2851
02:43:22,280 --> 02:43:25,520
want to completely control the
narrative. And they want to be

2852
02:43:25,520 --> 02:43:29,360
able to deploy psychological
warfare on all of you, to

2853
02:43:29,360 --> 02:43:34,100
control you, to train you to
respond to the fear narratives

2854
02:43:34,100 --> 02:43:38,180
about avian influenza and
monkeypox and whatever it is

2855
02:43:38,180 --> 02:43:42,040
they want to deploy next, in
order to control you, in order

2856
02:43:42,040 --> 02:43:46,960
to teach you to shut up, sit
down, stay in your homes and do

2857
02:43:46,960 --> 02:43:50,560
what you're told. Now I'm not
okay with that. I don't think

2858
02:43:50,560 --> 02:43:55,840
you're okay with that, and I
hope that you join all of us in

2859
02:43:55,840 --> 02:43:57,940
fighting this new tyranny.

2860
02:43:58,780 --> 02:44:03,240
Adam Curry: So I don't know,
sounds a bit like they're gonna

2861
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:07,500
pull down the grid so we can't
have votes. Sounds like

2862
02:44:07,560 --> 02:44:11,580
John C Dvorak: bull crap in some
way or other. Well,

2863
02:44:12,960 --> 02:44:15,000
Adam Curry: sir, Mark and Dave
mastered will be

2864
02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:19,320
John C Dvorak: with that will be
about this being jailed. First,

2865
02:44:19,320 --> 02:44:22,160
Adam Curry: I ask if they have
any self replicating RNA on them

2866
02:44:22,160 --> 02:44:23,420
because, you know, stay away.

2867
02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:26,540
John C Dvorak: They're from
them. Sure. You can be certain

2868
02:44:26,540 --> 02:44:27,200
they don't.

2869
02:44:28,520 --> 02:44:31,280
Adam Curry: And then I have one
other big pharma story, which,

2870
02:44:31,580 --> 02:44:35,720
as I was writing up the rundown
for my clips and stuff this

2871
02:44:35,720 --> 02:44:39,080
morning, I was typing too fast.
And instead of Big Pharma, I

2872
02:44:39,080 --> 02:44:41,620
wrote big Harma. I'm like, oh,
that's kind of interesting.

2873
02:44:41,740 --> 02:44:49,900
Cute, yes, this is the follow on
from NPR about the the failure

2874
02:44:49,900 --> 02:44:55,900
of 23andme and they have a nice
little intro here with a

2875
02:44:55,900 --> 02:45:01,200
reminder of how stupid everybody
was to go along. Of this dumb

2876
02:45:01,200 --> 02:45:06,180
scheme, despite despite warnings
from your no agenda show.

2877
02:45:06,240 --> 02:45:08,760
Unknown: It was an idea that
caught on, pay about 100 bucks

2878
02:45:08,760 --> 02:45:11,880
for a saliva kit, and weeks
later, learn all about your

2879
02:45:11,880 --> 02:45:16,380
ancestry. The company behind
this 23andme was a hit. It was

2880
02:45:16,380 --> 02:45:19,380
worth billions. Oprah raved
about it, and countless people

2881
02:45:19,380 --> 02:45:22,400
took to social media to share
their experience, like tiktoker.

2882
02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:23,480
Danielle Edwards,

2883
02:45:23,660 --> 02:45:29,600
okay, I did it, y'all. I finally
took my 23andme kids. Jesus, all

2884
02:45:29,600 --> 02:45:33,620
right, spit in tube. So I'm
concentrating. I'm trying to

2885
02:45:33,620 --> 02:45:36,500
think about anything, but what I
have to do, which is spitting in

2886
02:45:36,500 --> 02:45:37,160
this tube.

2887
02:45:37,220 --> 02:45:41,320
More than 14 million people spit
in a 23andme tube. People were

2888
02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:44,020
holding spit parties. The
company was part of the

2889
02:45:44,020 --> 02:45:48,040
zeitgeist, but there was one big
business problem. Nobody needed

2890
02:45:48,040 --> 02:45:52,900
to do a 23 me test twice. It was
one and done, and now 23andme

2891
02:45:53,380 --> 02:45:55,960
stock is worth pennies.
Financial news networks like

2892
02:45:55,960 --> 02:45:59,560
CNBC have been blaring the news.
It has since lost 99.9%

2893
02:46:00,880 --> 02:46:03,660
of its value from a $6 billion
market cap peak.

2894
02:46:03,660 --> 02:46:06,420
Then there were two other big
blows. Last year, the company

2895
02:46:06,420 --> 02:46:09,900
was hit with a major data breach
of customer passwords, and last

2896
02:46:09,900 --> 02:46:13,020
week, its entire board of
directors resigned. Some

2897
02:46:13,020 --> 02:46:16,620
analysts say 23andme could go
out of business by next year,

2898
02:46:16,680 --> 02:46:19,620
which raises the question,
what's going to happen with the

2899
02:46:19,620 --> 02:46:21,980
genetic data has from millions
of people.

2900
02:46:23,240 --> 02:46:26,840
Adam Curry: So we never realized
at the time, and I'm kind of mad

2901
02:46:26,840 --> 02:46:29,900
at myself for not saying, what
kind of business is this, where

2902
02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:33,140
you only have your there's no
repeat business for customers.

2903
02:46:33,500 --> 02:46:36,980
You spit once and you're done
once. You got everybody to spit.

2904
02:46:36,980 --> 02:46:39,020
What else do you have? And we
we,

2905
02:46:39,020 --> 02:46:40,460
Unknown: well, we did shortly.

2906
02:46:40,820 --> 02:46:45,940
John C Dvorak: Yes, it was an
obvious short, but, or put

2907
02:46:46,300 --> 02:46:49,960
whatever the case, it's possible
that if they had marketing

2908
02:46:49,960 --> 02:46:55,360
people there that knew more than
you know Sergey Brin, they would

2909
02:46:55,360 --> 02:46:59,200
have come up with other things,
other ancillary products, other

2910
02:46:59,200 --> 02:47:03,840
things they could do, other
services they could provide it

2911
02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:06,840
to because you, when you have a
customer, you capture a

2912
02:47:06,840 --> 02:47:10,560
customer, you should be able to
sell them other things, books. I

2913
02:47:10,560 --> 02:47:14,940
mean, anything books. But they
did nothing. They just they it's

2914
02:47:14,940 --> 02:47:18,480
their own fault. I mean, it's
not very few. Most businesses

2915
02:47:18,480 --> 02:47:22,940
are one and done. If you take it
to a base level, and they come

2916
02:47:22,940 --> 02:47:25,700
up with other ideas you got, you
know, you get your repeat

2917
02:47:25,700 --> 02:47:28,580
customers, not necessarily from
buying a second car from your

2918
02:47:28,580 --> 02:47:32,480
brand. So they didn't have any
skills,

2919
02:47:32,960 --> 02:47:37,880
Adam Curry: right? And the big
joke for us was, oh, you're

2920
02:47:37,880 --> 02:47:41,440
gonna do the 23 of me, I'll bet
you that there's at least 1%

2921
02:47:41,920 --> 02:47:45,760
Ashkenazi Jew, because everybody
had some Ashkenazi Jew in them.

2922
02:47:46,420 --> 02:47:50,320
And now the question is, what is
going to happen to the data of

2923
02:47:50,500 --> 02:47:53,080
your Chinese, of your DNA? Well,
here's the

2924
02:47:53,080 --> 02:47:55,540
Unknown: answer, even if the
company goes under that data

2925
02:47:55,540 --> 02:47:58,360
could change hands. That may
surprise some customers. They

2926
02:47:58,360 --> 02:48:00,480
might believe that the
information is more protected

2927
02:48:00,480 --> 02:48:03,180
than it actually is that's on
your price. She's a law

2928
02:48:03,180 --> 02:48:05,700
professor at the University of
Iowa's College of Law who

2929
02:48:05,700 --> 02:48:09,000
focuses on genetic privacy. She
says federal health privacy

2930
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:12,480
protections like HIPAA don't
apply here, since 23andme is

2931
02:48:12,540 --> 02:48:16,020
outside of the healthcare realm.
What the company does depends on

2932
02:48:16,020 --> 02:48:18,540
what customers agreed to when
they signed up for the service.

2933
02:48:18,540 --> 02:48:21,920
Some states like California and
Florida do give consumers rights

2934
02:48:21,920 --> 02:48:24,380
over their genetic data. If
customers are really worried,

2935
02:48:24,380 --> 02:48:27,500
they could ask for their samples
to be withdrawn from these

2936
02:48:27,500 --> 02:48:31,220
databases under those laws. When
I asked 23andme what it plans to

2937
02:48:31,220 --> 02:48:33,740
do with all the genetic data if
it goes out of business, a

2938
02:48:33,740 --> 02:48:36,800
spokesman wouldn't say, but he
did mention a partnership with

2939
02:48:36,800 --> 02:48:40,480
pharmaceutical giant
GlaxoSmithKline GSK which has

2940
02:48:40,480 --> 02:48:43,300
been analyzing the data to try
to find medical breakthroughs.

2941
02:48:43,600 --> 02:48:47,920
23andme says 80% of customers
opted into this kind of research

2942
02:48:47,920 --> 02:48:50,800
when they signed up. Company
says the data is anonymous.

2943
02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:53,740
Prince, thanks. If people now
are second guessing that

2944
02:48:53,740 --> 02:48:58,240
decision, they might be out of
luck. I couldn't go to GSK and

2945
02:48:58,240 --> 02:49:01,920
say, hey, my sample was given to
you. I want that taken out if it

2946
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:04,560
was anonymized, right? Because
they're not going to re identify

2947
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:05,580
it just to pull it

2948
02:49:05,580 --> 02:49:06,480
out of the database. The

2949
02:49:06,480 --> 02:49:09,180
23 me spokesman said the company
is committed to being

2950
02:49:09,180 --> 02:49:12,300
transparent with whatever
happens to customer data, saying

2951
02:49:12,300 --> 02:49:16,020
its core value is, quote, behind
every data point is a human

2952
02:49:16,020 --> 02:49:17,400
being, and

2953
02:49:17,400 --> 02:49:21,180
Adam Curry: there you go. You're
screwed. GlaxoSmithKline has

2954
02:49:21,180 --> 02:49:25,400
John C Dvorak: that screw how
you screwed? They say, I mean,

2955
02:49:25,400 --> 02:49:27,080
tell me how you're screwed. Are
they screwed?

2956
02:49:27,140 --> 02:49:29,540
Adam Curry: They say, it's
anonymous. I'm not believing

2957
02:49:29,540 --> 02:49:30,200
that. Well, let's

2958
02:49:30,200 --> 02:49:32,900
John C Dvorak: assume it is be
anonymous or not anonymous. How

2959
02:49:32,900 --> 02:49:33,740
are you screwed?

2960
02:49:34,100 --> 02:49:36,140
Adam Curry: If it's not
anonymous, you're screwed if

2961
02:49:36,140 --> 02:49:40,900
it's anonymous, maybe because
they can create all kinds of

2962
02:49:40,900 --> 02:49:43,420
things tailored for you to kill
you.

2963
02:49:43,780 --> 02:49:46,660
John C Dvorak: Who's they?
GlaxoSmithKline,

2964
02:49:47,380 --> 02:49:47,620
Adam Curry: why

2965
02:49:47,620 --> 02:49:49,300
John C Dvorak: would they do
that? How are you screwed? I

2966
02:49:49,300 --> 02:49:50,620
think you're exaggerating. Well,

2967
02:49:50,620 --> 02:49:54,940
Adam Curry: why would moderna
and Pfizer create for the sake

2968
02:49:55,180 --> 02:49:56,320
of argument? Because

2969
02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:58,540
John C Dvorak: I I agree it's a
dumb idea to give this

2970
02:49:58,540 --> 02:50:01,680
information away. Because.
Because it could be weaponized

2971
02:50:01,680 --> 02:50:06,540
in terms of a genetic, a genetic
targeted virus that could be

2972
02:50:06,540 --> 02:50:09,600
developed in China. Because, you
know, if they're against, yes,

2973
02:50:09,660 --> 02:50:13,680
go ahead, against the general,
against all white people,

2974
02:50:13,860 --> 02:50:16,620
against all black people. Yes. I
mean, we've been trying to kill

2975
02:50:16,620 --> 02:50:19,260
off the back black population in
Africa, if you want to go

2976
02:50:19,260 --> 02:50:22,340
conspiratorial, since the
invention of AIDS, but

2977
02:50:22,340 --> 02:50:25,100
Adam Curry: they didn't
Dietrich, they didn't spit in

2978
02:50:25,100 --> 02:50:27,200
the tube. So, you know, you get

2979
02:50:27,200 --> 02:50:29,300
John C Dvorak: these people to
volunteer their information,

2980
02:50:29,300 --> 02:50:30,620
which is probably a mistake,

2981
02:50:30,980 --> 02:50:34,820
Adam Curry: yes, and everyone
put it out there on ancestry,

2982
02:50:34,820 --> 02:50:39,380
and they all uploaded to all
these open source databases.

2983
02:50:39,380 --> 02:50:40,040
Well, that

2984
02:50:40,700 --> 02:50:43,120
John C Dvorak: way they can find
out who their relatives are,

2985
02:50:43,240 --> 02:50:43,540
yeah,

2986
02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:45,460
Adam Curry: which also didn't
turn out to be such a great

2987
02:50:45,460 --> 02:50:49,240
idea. Yeah, I found a relative.
I found my relatives. That guy's

2988
02:50:49,240 --> 02:50:52,000
a douche. How many times I heard
that story?

2989
02:50:53,740 --> 02:50:55,300
Unknown: Yeah? Anyway,

2990
02:50:55,900 --> 02:50:58,180
Adam Curry: I played it more to
say, listen to your no agenda

2991
02:50:58,180 --> 02:51:02,220
show. We're not that dumb. We've
tried to protect you,

2992
02:51:02,760 --> 02:51:03,540
John C Dvorak: I think so

2993
02:51:03,900 --> 02:51:04,860
Adam Curry: we're here for you.

2994
02:51:05,580 --> 02:51:08,100
John C Dvorak: We I only have
one clip that I can play before

2995
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:10,680
we finish. Actually, it's true.
Since you brought this up, let's

2996
02:51:10,680 --> 02:51:14,160
bring up the VAX clip. You know,
they have to bring you. Know, we

2997
02:51:14,160 --> 02:51:16,980
gotta. People aren't taking up
on the vaxes. In fact, it's

2998
02:51:16,980 --> 02:51:20,100
gotten out of control. People
are so skeptical that we have

2999
02:51:20,100 --> 02:51:21,500
this report, new data

3000
02:51:21,500 --> 02:51:24,140
Unknown: from the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention

3001
02:51:24,320 --> 02:51:28,520
shows a drop in vaccination
rates among us kindergartners in

3002
02:51:28,520 --> 02:51:32,660
the current school year as NPRs,
Maria goy reports, the

3003
02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:36,200
proportion of children with
exemptions from vaccines rose to

3004
02:51:36,200 --> 02:51:39,980
a record high compared to The
2023 school year.

3005
02:51:40,340 --> 02:51:44,440
The CDC says about 127,000
kindergarten had exemptions from

3006
02:51:44,440 --> 02:51:47,680
at least one vaccine in the last
school year. That's about 3.3%

3007
02:51:48,460 --> 02:51:52,960
of all kindergarteners, an all
time high overall, nearly 93% of

3008
02:51:52,960 --> 02:51:55,420
kindergarteners had all the
required vaccines during the

3009
02:51:55,420 --> 02:51:58,840
last school year. Vaccination
rates against measles dropped

3010
02:51:58,840 --> 02:52:03,180
from the year before, and they
remained below the 95% threshold

3011
02:52:03,180 --> 02:52:07,380
considered crucial to prevent an
outbreak in the community. Other

3012
02:52:07,380 --> 02:52:11,040
CDC data show measles outbreaks
are up this year compared to

3013
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:16,320
last year. The new CDC data show
coverage with MNR, DTaP, polio

3014
02:52:16,320 --> 02:52:20,400
vaccine and varicella vaccine
decreased among kindergarteners

3015
02:52:20,400 --> 02:52:23,600
in more than 30 states. Ah,
well,

3016
02:52:23,660 --> 02:52:28,460
Adam Curry: we're getting
through to him. Finally. Did you

3017
02:52:28,460 --> 02:52:29,840
have another one you wanted to
play?

3018
02:52:30,200 --> 02:52:32,480
John C Dvorak: Oh, you know, I
mean, we could skip it, but

3019
02:52:32,840 --> 02:52:35,480
let's see. Yes, I do have this.
Because this really annoyed me.

3020
02:52:35,480 --> 02:52:37,880
Somebody, one of our producers
sent me this. This is from

3021
02:52:37,880 --> 02:52:43,120
Nebraska, because when I heard
this from Nebraska, Nebraska

3022
02:52:43,120 --> 02:52:45,940
Public Radio, there's two
gotchas in this little

3023
02:52:45,940 --> 02:52:50,320
announcement I want you you'll
spot them both immediately. It's

3024
02:52:50,320 --> 02:52:53,680
about Nebraska's black maternal
health month.

3025
02:52:55,480 --> 02:52:58,360
Unknown: Okay? Tuesday marks the
beginning of Nebraska's black

3026
02:52:58,360 --> 02:53:01,680
maternal health month. Advocates
are using this time of year to

3027
02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:04,380
bring awareness to health
disparities among black birthing

3028
02:53:04,380 --> 02:53:08,280
people. Nebraska Public Media's
Cassidy arena was at the launch

3029
02:53:08,280 --> 02:53:09,300
event. The

3030
02:53:09,300 --> 02:53:12,240
US has the highest maternal
mortality rates in the

3031
02:53:12,240 --> 02:53:15,600
industrialized world, and
Nebraska has one of the highest

3032
02:53:15,600 --> 02:53:19,860
rates at 26.2% this is what
Nebraska black maternal health

3033
02:53:19,860 --> 02:53:23,420
month addresses. Ashley Spivey
is the executive director of the

3034
02:53:23,420 --> 02:53:26,720
reproductive justice
organization IB black girl. She

3035
02:53:26,720 --> 02:53:30,200
says this month is the time to
call for more support in black

3036
02:53:30,200 --> 02:53:31,100
maternity care.

3037
02:53:31,460 --> 02:53:35,360
We have an opportunity to have
impactful change today, not

3038
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:39,020
tomorrow, not seven years from
now, but right now we can make a

3039
02:53:39,020 --> 02:53:42,160
commitment to changing the
experiences for our black

3040
02:53:42,160 --> 02:53:45,340
pregnant people and folks with
the capacity for pregnancy and

3041
02:53:45,340 --> 02:53:46,960
root that enjoying abundance.

3042
02:53:47,140 --> 02:53:49,600
Ivy, black girl will host
maternal health events

3043
02:53:49,600 --> 02:53:52,480
throughout the month, including
networking events and community

3044
02:53:52,480 --> 02:53:56,560
baby showers. I'm Cassidy arena
Nebraska, public media news. I'm

3045
02:53:56,560 --> 02:54:01,140
Adam Curry: very confused by
this report. What exactly is

3046
02:54:01,140 --> 02:54:04,020
going on. They're doing baby
show.

3047
02:54:04,260 --> 02:54:06,960
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of
virtue signaling about birthing

3048
02:54:06,960 --> 02:54:10,320
people. Yes, I heard that
burning people, and the other

3049
02:54:10,320 --> 02:54:15,000
one was at the end of the clip,
was, was, oh no, is the first

3050
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:18,960
one was birthing person, yes.
And then the other one was

3051
02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:23,480
birth, birthing people. I mean,
they can't say woman, I guess in

3052
02:54:23,480 --> 02:54:27,200
Nebraska, uh, if you're black,
well, they also, yes, they

3053
02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:29,720
Adam Curry: also can't say
maternal. Then, because maternal

3054
02:54:29,720 --> 02:54:32,840
is very specific to matriarch,
don't they have to change that

3055
02:54:32,840 --> 02:54:33,440
as well.

3056
02:54:33,560 --> 02:54:36,140
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
they're up to. I just found it

3057
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:41,060
the clip to be one of those
makes your teeth itch. Clip,

3058
02:54:42,620 --> 02:54:45,280
Unknown: donut. Donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

3059
02:54:45,280 --> 02:54:46,900
who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd

3060
02:54:46,900 --> 02:54:47,320
be fab.

3061
02:54:54,220 --> 02:54:57,100
Adam Curry: Well, if your teeth
are itching, then don't worry.

3062
02:54:57,100 --> 02:55:00,420
Help is on the way. We have the
tip of the day. We've. Got our

3063
02:55:00,420 --> 02:55:04,560
end of show mixes. We have all
kind we got groovy stuff coming.

3064
02:55:04,560 --> 02:55:07,860
We have Commodores. We've got
the meetups. And right now, John

3065
02:55:07,860 --> 02:55:10,740
is going to take us through to
$50 of our supporters, our

3066
02:55:10,740 --> 02:55:16,620
producers for episode 1701, the
Star Trek donation episode. You

3067
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:17,400
know, this

3068
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:20,660
John C Dvorak: is a short short
list. It's like, well people,

3069
02:55:20,900 --> 02:55:24,500
but we'll start with Mount
Shasta California, and our

3070
02:55:24,500 --> 02:55:28,940
producer there, who is Dame
Danny, and she came with 1701

3071
02:55:29,600 --> 02:55:33,620
Yeah, I get it. Star Trek got it
at dreb Scott, hello everybody.

3072
02:55:33,620 --> 02:55:38,420
George Duke at large in OCEAN,
Ocean shrine, California, 1701

3073
02:55:40,040 --> 02:55:46,060
Yeah. Beautiful. Brian Langsdorf
in bule, Idaho, 107 49 he's got

3074
02:55:46,060 --> 02:55:48,340
a note. You can look as if
there's anything important

3075
02:55:48,340 --> 02:55:50,680
there. He might have a he's got
a birthday. Call out for sure.

3076
02:55:51,340 --> 02:55:52,900
Adam Curry: Let me check here.

3077
02:55:52,900 --> 02:55:54,280
John C Dvorak: Are you doing
that? I'll continue.

3078
02:55:54,520 --> 02:56:00,300
Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on. I
have it here. He says, For my

3079
02:56:00,300 --> 02:56:05,820
75th birthday, I give nice for
my 71st birthday gift, I asked

3080
02:56:05,820 --> 02:56:10,140
my wife to donate the amount of
my birthdate, which is one oh 10

3081
02:56:10,140 --> 02:56:15,360
749, to no agenda, and closes a
check for 107 dot 49 and 15

3082
02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:19,260
cents for handling. I hope this
starts a donation trend. Well,

3083
02:56:19,260 --> 02:56:20,220
thank you very much.

3084
02:56:20,280 --> 02:56:24,140
John C Dvorak: Donate the date.
That's right. Thomas Hurtado in

3085
02:56:24,140 --> 02:56:27,200
Fontana, California, comes in
with 100 there's Kevin

3086
02:56:27,200 --> 02:56:30,020
McLaughlin from Concord, North
Carolina. He's the Archduke of

3087
02:56:30,020 --> 02:56:33,500
Luna, lover of America. And
boobs with 808. A boob donation?

3088
02:56:33,560 --> 02:56:39,860
Yes. Chris turhart In
Abbotsford, BC 70. David Cox in

3089
02:56:39,920 --> 02:56:44,500
Austin, Texas, 6325 les
Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona,

3090
02:56:44,500 --> 02:56:49,300
6006 small boobs. Sir Tom dari
in DeForest, Wisconsin. 5510

3091
02:56:50,260 --> 02:56:55,000
double nickels on the dime. Mark
Hardwick in Aledo, Texas, 5333

3092
02:56:56,560 --> 02:57:01,020
Michael gates a 5280 and now we
have the long list of $50

3093
02:57:01,320 --> 02:57:05,760
donors, which consists of three
people, Chris conneker in

3094
02:57:05,760 --> 02:57:10,320
Anchorage Alaska, Alex Zavala in
Kyle, Texas, and Carrie Jackson

3095
02:57:10,320 --> 02:57:13,620
in Watertown, Tennessee. And
that's our entire list of

3096
02:57:13,680 --> 02:57:17,820
donors, from $50 to 200 with
very short, very small, very

3097
02:57:18,360 --> 02:57:21,500
Adam Curry: pathetic, very, very
demure, very mindful this,

3098
02:57:21,500 --> 02:57:23,960
John C Dvorak: yeah. Damira And
so I want to thank these folks.

3099
02:57:24,140 --> 02:57:26,780
Thank everybody for helping,
especially the Commodores for

3100
02:57:26,780 --> 02:57:31,280
helping us complete show 1701,
the Star Trek episode,

3101
02:57:31,280 --> 02:57:33,380
Adam Curry: yes. And thank you
Alex avala, who is, of course,

3102
02:57:33,380 --> 02:57:36,320
sir. Alex avala, somehow he
never, he never remembers to put

3103
02:57:36,320 --> 02:57:39,140
that in there. Thank you all
very much. And as always, our

3104
02:57:39,140 --> 02:57:41,800
sustaining donors who come in
under 50, or people who come in

3105
02:57:41,800 --> 02:57:44,200
under 50, for reasons of
anonymity, since we don't read

3106
02:57:44,200 --> 02:57:47,380
below that number. Thank you so
much. Go to no agenda

3107
02:57:47,380 --> 02:57:52,960
donations.com. That is where you
can support us, time, talent or

3108
02:57:52,960 --> 02:57:56,500
treasure. It's all accepted, but
we do love you, and you love us

3109
02:57:56,500 --> 02:58:00,180
back Long time, no agenda
donations.com. Karma. For those

3110
02:58:00,180 --> 02:58:06,060
who need it, you've got karma,
and I do need to hand out a

3111
02:58:06,060 --> 02:58:09,720
health karma for Darren
O'Neill's dad, who was in the

3112
02:58:09,720 --> 02:58:13,740
hospital with congestive heart
failure, possibly infected

3113
02:58:13,740 --> 02:58:18,480
gallbladder surgery coming up in
a couple of months. Ouch, or no,

3114
02:58:18,480 --> 02:58:21,080
it's that from a couple of
months ago that that might have

3115
02:58:21,080 --> 02:58:24,440
done it. Oh, my God, let some
bacteria travel to his heart.

3116
02:58:25,100 --> 02:58:28,400
He's had, this is heartbreaking.
Literally, he's had an

3117
02:58:28,400 --> 02:58:31,280
artificial valve for 25 years.
We'll know for sure tomorrow,

3118
02:58:31,280 --> 02:58:34,340
after another test, either way,
not great. Prayers for him,

3119
02:58:34,340 --> 02:58:36,860
brother and I'll do a real
health karma here, there you go.

3120
02:58:36,860 --> 02:58:40,280
You've got karma. And please
again, remember us. Noaddened

3121
02:58:40,280 --> 02:58:41,720
donations.com. It's just

3122
02:58:41,720 --> 02:58:48,220
Unknown: now

3123
02:58:48,220 --> 02:58:50,980
Adam Curry: we have more
birthdays than $50 donors. Ron

3124
02:58:50,980 --> 02:58:56,740
Cooper turns 54 today. Then tuna
wishes her husband Keith, Kevin

3125
02:58:56,740 --> 02:59:01,560
Jones, a happy one turning 36
today. Sir 1% turns 49 tomorrow.

3126
02:59:01,740 --> 02:59:05,460
And so 1% wishes Vladimir Putin
a very happy birthday. Also

3127
02:59:05,460 --> 02:59:08,700
celebrating tomorrow. Tyler
hooker says Happy Birthday to

3128
02:59:08,700 --> 02:59:13,020
Donna Jean his mom, Donna Jean
hooker tomorrow. Brian Langsdorf

3129
02:59:13,020 --> 02:59:17,400
turns 75 tomorrow. And Kevin
McKenna, aka Babb, wishes his

3130
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:21,500
daughter Bab really Bob Babb,
his daughter, Aniston, a happy

3131
02:59:21,500 --> 02:59:24,140
birthday. She is turning eight
years old. Happy birthday from

3132
02:59:24,140 --> 02:59:27,020
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe. No

3133
02:59:38,900 --> 02:59:42,220
douchebag on deck here, we have
two title changes. Sir Ryan

3134
02:59:42,220 --> 02:59:46,720
becomes Baron Ryan, protector of
Central Oregon, and Sir Dr 1%

3135
02:59:47,140 --> 02:59:53,260
becomes Baron of lieberland, the
SIR so he will be sir Doctor 1%

3136
02:59:53,620 --> 02:59:57,100
Viscount of lieberland. There
you go. Thank you all for

3137
02:59:57,100 --> 02:59:59,500
supporting us. Thank you for
your birthdays. Thank you to

3138
02:59:59,500 --> 03:00:02,940
the. Uh, title changes, who, of
course, have upped their amount

3139
03:00:02,940 --> 03:00:05,820
of supports to the best podcast
in the universe. And now it is

3140
03:00:05,820 --> 03:00:10,500
time once again to welcome the
new Commodores into the realm of

3141
03:00:10,500 --> 03:00:13,140
Commodore ship here on the no
agenda show.

3142
03:00:18,780 --> 03:00:22,760
Commodore sir Ryan. Commodore
baronetti Bear Commodore G

3143
03:00:22,760 --> 03:00:25,880
Commodore Clark, Commodore Indy
the white Shepherd, Commodore,

3144
03:00:25,880 --> 03:00:28,940
dude named Ben. Name Ben
Commodore, sir dude named Ralph

3145
03:00:28,940 --> 03:00:32,180
Commodore Cooper, Commodore of
Dixie Washington. Commodore,

3146
03:00:32,180 --> 03:00:35,540
Eric Curtis, Commodore Baronet
fly not Commodore, title of the

3147
03:00:35,540 --> 03:00:39,740
practically perfect Commodore,
Dwayne melonson, Commodore sir

3148
03:00:39,740 --> 03:00:42,400
Robertson of two sticks,
Commodore, Tabitha soaps,

3149
03:00:42,640 --> 03:00:50,560
Commodore, Brian Teleki
arriving. Go to no agenda rings

3150
03:00:50,560 --> 03:00:56,080
calm. That's where you can find
the information to receive your

3151
03:00:56,080 --> 03:01:02,400
official pronunciation, your
your entire sort of paperwork,

3152
03:01:02,400 --> 03:01:04,980
the paperwork, yes, that's what
I was looking for. Hey, we have

3153
03:01:04,980 --> 03:01:11,580
one night, one Dame to bring up
on the guy, very nice as

3154
03:01:11,580 --> 03:01:15,420
Tabitha, Tabitha soaps and Zach
and come on up, both of you

3155
03:01:16,380 --> 03:01:20,220
joining the very exclusive group
of the no agenda Knights and

3156
03:01:20,220 --> 03:01:26,180
Dames. I am very proud to
pronounce the Kate the as Dame

3157
03:01:26,180 --> 03:01:30,140
Tabitha, keeper of awesomeness,
and Sir Nanuk of the West for

3158
03:01:30,140 --> 03:01:33,020
you. We've got hookers and blow
rent boys and Chardonnay cowboy

3159
03:01:33,020 --> 03:01:36,620
killers and Calvados apples and
honey grass finish ribeyes and

3160
03:01:36,620 --> 03:01:39,500
chocolate bobcat. Along with
that, we've got some redheads

3161
03:01:39,500 --> 03:01:42,220
and rise we've got rubenes,
women and rose a geisha lasagna

3162
03:01:42,220 --> 03:01:44,500
Bach, the Manila bong hit, some
bourbon, sparkling cider,

3163
03:01:44,500 --> 03:01:47,800
escorts, breast milk and Pablo
and ginger ale and gerbils, and,

3164
03:01:47,800 --> 03:01:52,240
of course, the mutton and Mead.
And you also can go to noagender

3165
03:01:52,240 --> 03:01:55,000
rings.com if you're not there
for a Commodore ship by itself.

3166
03:01:55,000 --> 03:01:58,240
That is where you can find our
fine looking no agenda night and

3167
03:01:58,240 --> 03:02:01,860
Dame ring. It's the signet ring.
So along with that, we give you

3168
03:02:01,860 --> 03:02:04,980
some wax to seal your important
correspondence and also a

3169
03:02:04,980 --> 03:02:07,800
certificate of authenticity.
Make sure you give us a mailing

3170
03:02:07,800 --> 03:02:11,220
address and a ring size. There's
a handy ring sizing guide right

3171
03:02:11,220 --> 03:02:13,740
there. Thank you all for
supporting no agenda, the

3172
03:02:13,800 --> 03:02:14,160
perfect

3173
03:02:22,400 --> 03:02:25,820
the perfect compliment to your
no agenda show experience is

3174
03:02:25,820 --> 03:02:28,400
visiting a no agenda meetup.
These are producer organized.

3175
03:02:28,400 --> 03:02:31,820
They are organized at no agenda
meetups.com. This is where you

3176
03:02:31,820 --> 03:02:35,120
will meet children from other
lands. Some even walk off into

3177
03:02:35,120 --> 03:02:38,000
the sunset together. There's
never been a fight, never been

3178
03:02:38,000 --> 03:02:40,720
any kind of fructose at a no
agenda meetup, because everyone

3179
03:02:40,720 --> 03:02:44,260
comes together, hangs out
together, and often wind up

3180
03:02:44,260 --> 03:02:47,800
helping each other in trying
times, such as we've had

3181
03:02:47,800 --> 03:02:51,160
recently. There is one taking
no, let's see. There's two

3182
03:02:51,160 --> 03:02:54,820
taking place today, the TMI
evacuation zone October surprise

3183
03:02:54,880 --> 03:02:57,880
is now underway at Evergreen
brewing in Camp Hill,

3184
03:02:57,880 --> 03:03:02,700
Pennsylvania, and the Indiana
tribal October surprise meetup

3185
03:03:02,700 --> 03:03:06,180
also underway now at blonde
blind owl brewery, Indianapolis,

3186
03:03:06,180 --> 03:03:09,540
Indiana. Hello. Wave back. It's
usually about 100 people there.

3187
03:03:09,840 --> 03:03:12,960
And on Thursday, our next show
day, the northern wake public

3188
03:03:12,960 --> 03:03:16,860
slave gathering, will kick off
at six o'clock at hoppy endings.

3189
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:20,780
And that is in Raleigh, North
Carolina. Man, that's a long

3190
03:03:20,780 --> 03:03:24,320
list that goes all the way
through to January. Let me see,

3191
03:03:24,440 --> 03:03:27,500
there's a couple in Texas,
Bedford, Texas, bastard Texas.

3192
03:03:28,340 --> 03:03:32,660
Also, of course, the big October
18 Fredericksburg Texas meetup,

3193
03:03:32,840 --> 03:03:35,000
curry and the keeper will be
there. It's going to be a

3194
03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:39,260
hootenanny. And Florida is also
working on a meetup. And they

3195
03:03:39,260 --> 03:03:42,340
sent in their own little promo
to make it official.

3196
03:03:45,400 --> 03:03:48,580
Unknown: Hey, y'all, I just
wanted to invite you down to the

3197
03:03:48,580 --> 03:03:52,180
ok gun corral for a day of
shooting at the range in

3198
03:03:52,240 --> 03:03:57,460
Okeechobee, Florida, on Sunday,
October 20 and 11am we're going

3199
03:03:57,460 --> 03:04:01,020
to have a professional with us.
So don't y'all worry about a

3200
03:04:01,020 --> 03:04:04,920
thing, just come dress to shoot
some clays, and don't forget to

3201
03:04:04,920 --> 03:04:08,460
sign your waiver. All this and
more at no agenda meetups.com,

3202
03:04:09,540 --> 03:04:15,720
yee haw. Remember guns, good,
knives, bad. See y'all soon,

3203
03:04:16,560 --> 03:04:18,660
Adam Curry: they do a lot of
interesting things there in

3204
03:04:18,660 --> 03:04:21,620
Florida. Make sure you check
that out. Thank you all very

3205
03:04:21,620 --> 03:04:24,380
much for organizing your
meetups. Thank you for attending

3206
03:04:24,380 --> 03:04:27,500
them. You will enjoy this. It's
like eating potato chips. You

3207
03:04:27,500 --> 03:04:29,720
have one you just can't stop.
You keep going. You'll go to

3208
03:04:29,720 --> 03:04:32,060
every one single one around the
world. There's at least 10 a

3209
03:04:32,060 --> 03:04:35,540
week all around the globe. No
agenda meetups.com. If you can't

3210
03:04:35,540 --> 03:04:38,120
find one near you, start one
yourself. It's easy. Sometimes

3211
03:04:38,120 --> 03:04:38,480
you want

3212
03:04:39,080 --> 03:04:40,100
Unknown: to go hang out with all
the

3213
03:04:41,960 --> 03:04:48,400
nights and days. It's like

3214
03:04:53,440 --> 03:04:56,800
a party, and

3215
03:04:58,780 --> 03:05:01,620
Adam Curry: this is the portion
of the. Show where we like to

3216
03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:04,500
determine what we're going to
play at the very end of the

3217
03:05:04,500 --> 03:05:08,880
show, also known as the ISO
choosing moment we get them from

3218
03:05:08,880 --> 03:05:14,940
all over. And I have two. You
seem to have a lot of them. Seem

3219
03:05:14,940 --> 03:05:18,180
to have 401. That many. Why
don't you play yours first? All

3220
03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:19,800
John C Dvorak: right? Well,
let's start with veggie

3221
03:05:20,520 --> 03:05:22,280
Adam Curry: veget. Okay, not

3222
03:05:22,280 --> 03:05:26,840
Unknown: my thing personally as
a vegetarian. Okay,

3223
03:05:27,980 --> 03:05:30,500
John C Dvorak: okay, well, I
didn't go over scandalous,

3224
03:05:31,280 --> 03:05:32,840
Unknown: scandal and redemption.

3225
03:05:35,180 --> 03:05:36,980
Adam Curry: It's not really
floating my boat just yet.

3226
03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:38,060
John C Dvorak: Okay, how about
how?

3227
03:05:38,120 --> 03:05:39,320
Unknown: How do they do it?

3228
03:05:39,560 --> 03:05:42,820
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, that's
it's punchy. Yeah, possibility.

3229
03:05:43,660 --> 03:05:44,980
John C Dvorak: Great podcast,

3230
03:05:45,520 --> 03:05:46,600
Unknown: great podcast.

3231
03:05:48,760 --> 03:05:52,480
Adam Curry: Well, I think I can
compete with that. How's this

3232
03:05:52,480 --> 03:05:52,720
one

3233
03:05:52,780 --> 03:05:55,000
Unknown: I know about work. I'm
a podcaster.

3234
03:05:58,420 --> 03:06:02,820
Adam Curry: Okay, so far, that's
a swing and a miss, and there's

3235
03:06:02,820 --> 03:06:07,500
this one rack scores. I don't
even know where that came from.

3236
03:06:08,460 --> 03:06:09,240
Unknown: No, no, I

3237
03:06:09,240 --> 03:06:12,180
Adam Curry: think, I think this
one. I think this is the winner.

3238
03:06:12,600 --> 03:06:17,100
Here it is great podcast. That's
the winner for me. You know? You

3239
03:06:17,100 --> 03:06:18,840
John C Dvorak: know what? It's
clear in line. You know why?

3240
03:06:19,800 --> 03:06:21,740
Because she says, gah, no,
because

3241
03:06:21,740 --> 03:06:24,920
Adam Curry: we do a great
podcast. Hello. It's simple like

3242
03:06:24,920 --> 03:06:28,700
that. Now, ladies and gentlemen,
waiting for it's John's Pro Tip

3243
03:06:28,700 --> 03:06:30,380
of the day and

3244
03:06:34,340 --> 03:06:35,060
Unknown: sometimes Adam,

3245
03:06:39,440 --> 03:06:40,840
John C Dvorak: all right. Pre
tip.

3246
03:06:40,900 --> 03:06:42,100
Adam Curry: I'm excited a
preach. I

3247
03:06:42,100 --> 03:06:43,840
John C Dvorak: gotta know from
Keith asking me, I recall

3248
03:06:43,840 --> 03:06:46,360
mentioning something recently
about a tool to save convert

3249
03:06:46,420 --> 03:06:49,900
videos from other platforms into
audio files, not really, but I

3250
03:06:49,900 --> 03:06:52,540
want to say, if you want to con,
you got your stuff going on in

3251
03:06:52,540 --> 03:06:55,180
the computer, you want to
convert to an audio file, get a

3252
03:06:55,180 --> 03:06:58,000
free copy of Audacity. Oh, wow,

3253
03:06:59,320 --> 03:07:01,140
Adam Curry: that's your tip,
huh? And

3254
03:07:01,140 --> 03:07:03,300
John C Dvorak: then, no, it's
not my tip. Is the pre clip, pre

3255
03:07:03,300 --> 03:07:09,180
tip. That's a pre tip. Okay, pre
tip. So it audacity, what? And

3256
03:07:09,180 --> 03:07:11,820
you have to Dick with the
settings a little bit, but it

3257
03:07:11,820 --> 03:07:18,240
will, it will record system
audio. And then, so you just

3258
03:07:18,240 --> 03:07:20,720
play a video, and you put, push
the button and it'll record

3259
03:07:20,720 --> 03:07:23,240
whatever is being played, and it
turns into an audio file. And

3260
03:07:23,240 --> 03:07:24,380
then you can screw with it.

3261
03:07:24,620 --> 03:07:27,200
Adam Curry: One I don't
understand what this tip is. I'm

3262
03:07:27,200 --> 03:07:27,980
confused.

3263
03:07:28,280 --> 03:07:31,220
John C Dvorak: Well, he wants to
know what he can use to play

3264
03:07:31,280 --> 03:07:37,640
good to create audio files on
his computer. Well, what would

3265
03:07:37,640 --> 03:07:38,480
you recommend?

3266
03:07:39,560 --> 03:07:42,280
Adam Curry: Well, no, but you
didn't really explain how to do

3267
03:07:42,280 --> 03:07:44,620
it. I mean, you've got, you've
got to set up the output to the

3268
03:07:44,620 --> 03:07:45,880
input. Yeah,

3269
03:07:45,880 --> 03:07:48,520
John C Dvorak: no, as I said,
it's, it takes a it's a little,

3270
03:07:48,520 --> 03:07:52,600
sometimes it's complicated, but
it will record the system's

3271
03:07:52,600 --> 03:07:56,200
sound. Yes, yeah. You have to
change a couple of settings here

3272
03:07:56,200 --> 03:07:58,960
and there to get it to work on
something. This is, I'm not

3273
03:07:58,960 --> 03:08:02,220
going to go through the whole
thing. These are tips. They're

3274
03:08:02,220 --> 03:08:03,420
not tutorials.

3275
03:08:03,480 --> 03:08:06,180
Adam Curry: Audacity. There's
your tip. Hey, are you starting

3276
03:08:06,180 --> 03:08:10,380
to podcast? You should get
Audacity is a tip to

3277
03:08:10,380 --> 03:08:13,080
John C Dvorak: tip, not a
tutorial. That's my motto.

3278
03:08:13,080 --> 03:08:15,360
Adam Curry: All right. I need a
new jingle, everybody. It's a

3279
03:08:15,360 --> 03:08:16,980
tip, not a tutorial.

3280
03:08:18,180 --> 03:08:20,480
John C Dvorak: Anyway, my tip,
real Tip of the Day. Oh, okay,

3281
03:08:20,480 --> 03:08:23,720
Adam Curry: I'm sorry I was,
geez, that's a pre tip. Okay,

3282
03:08:23,720 --> 03:08:25,940
well, you're confusing me. Now
we don't the pre

3283
03:08:25,940 --> 03:08:28,100
John C Dvorak: time. You're
easily confused. So let's I just

3284
03:08:28,100 --> 03:08:31,640
want to recommend a TV show. Now
if you get over the air

3285
03:08:31,640 --> 03:08:34,640
broadcast, which everyone should
do, get a cheap antenna, and you

3286
03:08:34,640 --> 03:08:35,780
stick it on

3287
03:08:35,780 --> 03:08:40,460
Adam Curry: TVs. Have a 11
bucks, 11 bucks, whatever,

3288
03:08:40,460 --> 03:08:42,520
John C Dvorak: hover far away.
You stick it on there and you

3289
03:08:42,520 --> 03:08:45,160
point it at the whatever
mountains nearby, or wherever

3290
03:08:45,160 --> 03:08:47,380
you get your transmitters, and
boom, you can get, like, 100

3291
03:08:47,740 --> 03:08:55,300
channels, probably, and NHK is
usually in the package. Oh, so

3292
03:08:55,360 --> 03:09:00,960
NHK has a show that I can't
recommend enough, is called

3293
03:09:01,140 --> 03:09:06,900
somewhere street somewhere, and
it's a red and if you haven't

3294
03:09:06,900 --> 03:09:09,840
seen this show, people, this is
the travelog show you want to

3295
03:09:09,840 --> 03:09:13,980
watch. Forget Rick Steves and
all these people floating

3296
03:09:13,980 --> 03:09:18,600
around. No, somewhere Street is
a fantastic show because that's

3297
03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:21,500
the way most people actually
travel. It's some random guy

3298
03:09:21,500 --> 03:09:24,860
walking through some town,
asking people about this and

3299
03:09:24,860 --> 03:09:27,920
that, and just having casual
conversations. Actually, it's

3300
03:09:27,920 --> 03:09:30,980
kind of produced later, as you
can tell, it's posted up as a

3301
03:09:30,980 --> 03:09:33,980
cute for girls voice, Hi, how
you doing? What are you doing?

3302
03:09:34,040 --> 03:09:36,920
Oh, I can come into your house.
They take into people's houses,

3303
03:09:37,100 --> 03:09:41,480
into the grocery stores, into
it's just a fabulous Travel Log

3304
03:09:41,480 --> 03:09:44,680
show. And if you, if you can
find it, watch it. It's a

3305
03:09:44,680 --> 03:09:45,220
killer.

3306
03:09:45,280 --> 03:09:47,860
Adam Curry: I think that's an
excellent tip. I'm going to do

3307
03:09:47,860 --> 03:09:50,920
that because I have an over the
air antenna. Thanks to you sure

3308
03:09:50,920 --> 03:09:55,840
you do, yes, you, of course you
do somewhere street on NHK from

3309
03:09:55,840 --> 03:09:58,360
Japan. Now that's a tip of the
day. It's not

3310
03:09:59,620 --> 03:10:04,380
Unknown: good. Good news. It's
good advice. John, C's Tip of

3311
03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:04,800
the Day.

3312
03:10:05,280 --> 03:10:08,220
Adam Curry: What other podcast
gives you viewing tips like

3313
03:10:08,220 --> 03:10:13,320
that? I ask you, none. Only the
best podcast in the universe can

3314
03:10:13,320 --> 03:10:17,520
do that with end of show mixes
coming up, all about bombing.

3315
03:10:18,180 --> 03:10:23,180
We're just gonna bomb. I'm gonna
bomb 'em hard. We have let me

3316
03:10:23,180 --> 03:10:26,600
see who's up next. If you're
listening at the troll room or

3317
03:10:26,600 --> 03:10:29,360
no agenda stream or on the
modern podcast app, don't tune

3318
03:10:29,360 --> 03:10:34,040
out, because we have a walk
through the mind coming up next.

3319
03:10:34,460 --> 03:10:37,100
I don't think I've heard this.
Is this Billy Bones? I think it

3320
03:10:37,100 --> 03:10:44,500
is Billy Bones. Billy Bones with
a three for the E and we look

3321
03:10:44,500 --> 03:10:49,300
forward to Episode 1702 which
we'll be doing for you on

3322
03:10:49,300 --> 03:10:53,140
Thursday. I'll have a report of
Sir Mark and Dame Astrid visit

3323
03:10:53,140 --> 03:10:58,480
here. And of course, we move on
towards our 17th anniversary on

3324
03:10:58,480 --> 03:11:02,340
the 26th of October. Right now I
am coming to you from the heart

3325
03:11:02,340 --> 03:11:05,820
of the Texas Hill Country, here
in Fredericksburg, Texas, where

3326
03:11:05,820 --> 03:11:08,640
they're taking down the grid.
There'll be no voting this year

3327
03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:11,100
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry, and

3328
03:11:11,100 --> 03:11:13,080
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it doesn't

3329
03:11:13,080 --> 03:11:16,560
matter if you vote or not
because it's rigged. I'm John C

3330
03:11:16,560 --> 03:11:17,040
Dvorak.

3331
03:11:18,360 --> 03:11:20,540
Adam Curry: We'll talk to you
again on Thursday. Remember us

3332
03:11:20,540 --> 03:11:24,140
at no agenda, donations.com
Until then, adios, mofos, a

3333
03:11:24,140 --> 03:11:27,560
hooey hooey a hooey hooey and
such,

3334
03:11:32,180 --> 03:11:36,980
Unknown: bomb them. We need to
kill and bomb them. Bomb them.

3335
03:11:37,220 --> 03:11:43,060
We need to kill and bomb them,
bomb them. We need to bomb them.

3336
03:11:43,420 --> 03:11:48,460
We need to kill them and bomb
them again. I'm gonna,

3337
03:11:49,360 --> 03:11:49,720
I'm gonna,

3338
03:11:50,200 --> 03:11:50,980
I'm gonna bomb bomb.

3339
03:11:51,940 --> 03:11:52,360
I'm gonna,

3340
03:11:53,260 --> 03:11:53,620
I'm gonna,

3341
03:11:54,520 --> 03:11:56,200
I'm gonna bomb bomb.

3342
03:11:56,260 --> 03:11:57,580
The shit out of I'm gonna,

3343
03:11:58,480 --> 03:12:01,320
I'm gonna, I'm gonna bomb, bomb.
I'm gonna,

3344
03:12:01,320 --> 03:12:02,640
I'm gonna,

3345
03:12:03,720 --> 03:12:05,340
I'm gonna hand it.

3346
03:12:22,680 --> 03:12:24,860
People, how you talking

3347
03:12:42,740 --> 03:12:59,740
about? Easy. I'm gonna

3348
03:13:10,320 --> 03:13:18,480
it up. CDC, greatest hit, now
available with proof of

3349
03:13:18,480 --> 03:13:19,380
vaccination.

3350
03:13:21,480 --> 03:13:27,860
You've been fasting. Classics
like tell

3351
03:13:37,100 --> 03:13:41,920
me Dr Fauci enter with a signed
company album by Brian Johnson

3352
03:13:41,920 --> 03:13:43,180
and Johnson revolutionary.

3353
03:13:48,760 --> 03:13:49,600
It's like quarantine

3354
03:13:51,340 --> 03:13:53,140
for just two weeks. Stay away
from me for just

3355
03:14:02,640 --> 03:14:07,920
he say, your wife me for just
six feet will tell you lies.

3356
03:14:08,100 --> 03:14:11,280
Somebody come

3357
03:14:45,280 --> 03:14:46,480
podcast in the universe.org/n,

3358
03:14:48,820 --> 03:14:52,840
a great podcast. You.