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John C Dvorak: Where's the joy?

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Unknown: Adam curry.

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John C Dvorak, it's Thursday,
October

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Adam Curry: 31 2024 this is your
award winning give our nation

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media assassination episode
1708,

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Unknown: this is no agenda.
We're voting

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Adam Curry: early and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region, number six in

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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all

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saying, Bring back the whoopee
cushion. I'm John C Dvorak

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Bucha. In the morning,

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Adam Curry: I don't think any of
us are saying that at all. Yeah,

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no one wants the whoopee cushion
back. I still have one probably,

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but they after a while, if you
haven't used them for a while,

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then the data work,

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John C Dvorak: yeah,

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Adam Curry: then the ends get
frayed and it gets in splits and

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doesn't doesn't vibrate well
enough. Do the kids these days

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even know what a whoopee
cushion? No,

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John C Dvorak: this is the
reason it should be brought

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back. It's one of the greatest
gags in the world. It is a good

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one. Kids find a whoopee cushion
and learn how to use it

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correctly.

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Adam Curry: There must Oh, oh,
hold on a second. What is the

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correct way to use a whoopee
cushion? John C Dvorak, expert,

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of all things, you

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John C Dvorak: you pull it a
share for somebody. Say here you

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can sit down. And it just says
before they sit down, you toss

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the whoopee cushion under them.
So as they sit, they make the

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farting sound and this, and
everyone gets a huge laugh on

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Adam Curry: it. Oh, see, I
always thought you need to put

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it under like a cushion the
chair that has a cushion on it.

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John C Dvorak: No, you want to
throw it. You want to do it a

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surprise attack.

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Adam Curry: Hey, this is a
parents this is a good one for

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your kids. You know how parents
love to terrorize their kids and

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put it on Instagram? Believe me,
it's a horrible thing. You know

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what the latest is? The latest
is the parent is in the bathroom

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and calls the kid and says, Oh,
I'm out of toilet paper. Come,

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bring me some toilet paper. And
these are four year olds. The

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kid comes up, and then the
parent, usually, the dad,

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surprise, surprise has some
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on his finger. And the,

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John C Dvorak: I have not seen
this joke, the

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Adam Curry: kids are, you know,
they're gagging, they're crying,

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they're screaming. It's the
meanest thing. I think you

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should try it with Theodore. I
don't think so. It's dying,

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right?

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John C Dvorak: It sounds funny,
but it's like, yeah,

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Adam Curry: yeah. Tina was
showing me that, Oh, she got

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banned again. She's banned again
from posting for five days.

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John C Dvorak: She should be
banned, and so I said, obviously

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she is a troublemaker.

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Adam Curry: Well, she's not safe
for the community, according to

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the message.

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John C Dvorak: I said, what
community is this? Well, I

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Adam Curry: said, What did you
do? She says, I really don't

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know. Said the last thing I did,
and here comes Zara, which is a

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clothing manufacturer. They had
an ad, and the ad was, and this

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happens all the time. The ad was
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I think I will, I will order
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She clicks, and it's like, not
available, out of stock. And so

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she says, Why are you doing
this? This is deceptive

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advertising. And then she got
banned. She messed with the

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primal forces of nature.

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John C Dvorak: She made she
messed with, this was a paid

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Adam Curry: advertisement, yes,
on the Instagram, yes.

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John C Dvorak: She She condemned
it, and then she got banned. To

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Adam Curry: that, yeah, and then
she got banned. So we presume

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that's what. How

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John C Dvorak: long is it gonna
demand? For five days. Yeah, so

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she'll be, yes, the shakes.
She'll be up

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Adam Curry: and running by
Monday, just in time for

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election. And everything took a
beautiful turn. How do you like

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my garbage stuff? It took a
beautiful turn. Everybody's

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John C Dvorak: we're gonna miss.
This is this election comes to

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fruition. It's going to be
sorely missed. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: this was just the
sequence of events where we and

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we'll get into the Hitler rally
with the garbage comment, and

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then Biden with the garbage
comment, and then Trump taking

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and running in with it, with the
with with the garbage truck. I

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mean, this morning in
Fredericksburg, there are, there

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are Maga houses with garbage
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John C Dvorak: I'm I'm under the
impression that in New York City

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there are random people
wandering around with that, with

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the garbage vest.

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Adam Curry: I mean, why wouldn't
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put a garbage bag on? I mean,
it's hilarious. It's hilarious

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the garbage bag. I mean, the
vest is one thing, but people

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are putting garbage bags on
their head as hats. I mean, it's

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John C Dvorak: supposed to be a
tonight's true. Be it's supposed

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to be used a lot for the
Halloween

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Adam Curry: costume. And you
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me of what we used to be like in
America. We used to be funny. We

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had fun with stuff. We weren't
all butthurt over comments all

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the time. I mean, this started
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maybe 15 years ago. Whoa,
bullying. And bullying was a

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hate speech. Bullying hate
speech. Yeah, it was bullying,

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the hate speech, and then
canceling and cultural

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appropriation. And, I mean,
Halloween, oh man, what can you

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even dress as anymore? What can
you dress as? You can't dress as

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a as a Mexican, you can't dress
as a cowboy or an Indian. You

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can't you can't dress up as
anything anymore. Now a garbage

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man is a is great. So I'm really
happy that this is happening.

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And well, I see you have, you
actually have a very good

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version of the Biden garbage
comment, which was hard to find,

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audio wise and length wise. Can
I play that? Yes,

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John C Dvorak: this is by this
would trigger the whole thing.

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Let's see a little background
for anyone out there who kind of

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missed this. I don't know how
you anyone

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Adam Curry: living under a
garbage can is, is that,

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John C Dvorak: just before came
I gave her final and definitive

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speech on the lawn of the
Washington DC, the ellipse, or

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whatever it's called, uh, Biden,
for some reason, this is the

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thing I have the questions about
this, by the way, Biden goes on

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Zoom, and I don't know who it
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talking to on Zoom, no,

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Adam Curry: or how he was, how
this video got out,

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John C Dvorak: oh, how the video
got but, but it was Jean Pierre.

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Claude Van Dam is the one who
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uh huh. And so there's something
screwy about that. But we don't

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know who he was talking to yet,
or why, and why. It was just

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before Kamala speech. It was
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Yeah, it was saboteur. And a lot
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sabotage. We're seeing some, I
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Adam Curry: He's still
breathing. Well, yeah, well,

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John C Dvorak: a dirty tricks
guy, and he knows how to do

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stuff like this and and so Biden
comes in. He ended this follows

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the Madison Square Garden event
where the comedian who, you

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know, is a famous podcaster.
What's his name? Tony

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Hinchcliffe,

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John C Dvorak: he he's a Insult
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Adam Curry: yeah, well, kill
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kill Tony podcast, which is kind
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also has this stage show, which
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week at Joe's Comedy Club. And
he lets new comics come up. They

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get to do one minute of bit, and
then they have a panel, and they

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just slaughter whoever's up
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kind of the roasting part. But
he's really a cultural Insult

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Comic, particularly during
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saying the Chinese suck, and
they can't, you know, the whole

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thing that's, that's his, it's
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funny. Most was like, okay, but

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John C Dvorak: it was very, I
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had good joke that he did, a
joke that the Democrats tried to

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jump on, which was that he says,
Well, you know, there's a big,

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you know, we've heard about this
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the ocean. He says, it turns out
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Adam Curry: yeah, and by the
way, he is, he has sold out

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Madison Square Garden three
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John C Dvorak: So they've,
they've marginalized the guy as

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some crazy comic. But I guess,
as you point out, he's not a

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marginal character, but, but the
Puerto Rican thing, they tried

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to make hay with that. And so it
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really, and but it became kind
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Joe Biden comes on the air, on
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distributed all over the place
for some again, unknown, unknown

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reason, unknown biases, unknown
discussion we don't know

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anything about, but it was
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Unknown: just the other day, a
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Puerto Rico, a floating island
of garbage. Well, let me tell

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you something. I don't I don't
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know, or Puerto Rico, where I'm
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they're going from honorable
people. The only garbage I see

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floating out there is his
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John C Dvorak: by the way, he
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Adam Curry: where he went to
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Puerto Ricans. So Scott. Adams
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and I believe he is correct,
although the Sabbath, you are

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correct about the sabotage. And
I'm about to explain this with

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these three clips. So Scott
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very fine people thing on the
Biden side. Now I'm just going

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to play it again. The last bit
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here. What Biden said?

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Unknown: The only garbage I see
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supporters. Okay, the only

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Adam Curry: garbage that I see
floating out here is his

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supporters. Here's what Scott
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Unknown: This story is total
bullshit. He didn't say that. He

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didn't say that. What? Let me
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the supporters. The word
supporters, if you thought the

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supporters was a positive Yes,
then what it means is the only

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garbage I see floating out there
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meaning the things they say
about Puerto Rico, the only

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garbage is something that
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possessive s now

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Adam Curry: listen to it again.

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Unknown: The only garbage I see
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supporters. So

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Adam Curry: I'm not I think
Scott has a very good point

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here. Were it not that Karine
Jean, Pierre, Abdul Jabbar did

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not explain it as a possessive.
She explained it differently. So

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Unknown: just to clarify, he was
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garbage, which is why he put out
this is why he wanted to make

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sure that we put out a statement
that clarified what he meant and

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what he was trying to say. And
so just want to make that very

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clear for folks who are
watching. And I'll and I just

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want to read that out to folks.
So he was regarding to the

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comedian. So

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Adam Curry: he was not saying
this regarding to the comedian.

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In fact, he very clearly says
supporters, plural, with an s1

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more time.

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Unknown: Garbage I see floating
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Adam Curry: It's about the s.
Now, curry Jean Pierre is either

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so desperate or in such a
destructive and I think you're

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right, sabotage mode, that she
even got a stooge of the press

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corps. I have not been able to
figure out who it was. It's, you

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know, seeing, so that's do. See,
no, it's not do. See, definitely

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is not, no, it's not do. See,
got a stooge from the press

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corps to ask, to set her up with
a question and explicitly say,

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support her, not ask, not
supporters, but support her to,

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uh, legitimize and give her the
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was about the comedian. Listen
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from a I mean, this is not a
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Unknown: Can you just address
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yesterday referring to Trump
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Adam Curry: you hear him say
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fries that a little bit
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he's trying to clarify that.
He's trying to talk about what

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the person said, but one I guess
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less of Americans who support
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do not. And two, why is he using
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Adam Curry: How about that
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this a moron, or is this someone
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things, he was not calling Trump
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he put out. This is why he
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trying to say. And so just want
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folks who are watching. And I'll
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to folks. So he was regarding to
the comedian, and I quote, I

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refer to the hateful rhetoric
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Adam Curry: Oh, now it's
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This is, this is a sad setup,
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Unknown: Puerto Rico spewed by
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Square Garden rally as garbage,
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think of to describe it. His
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unconscionable. That's all I
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comments at the rally, don't
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Adam Curry: we are. So even this
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this apart and say, no, no, it's
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left off the apostrophe s the
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America. It's hilarious. Listen,

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John C Dvorak: I have to add to
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Adam Curry: You need to change
your speakers now, just a little

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bit. I can't you keep cracking
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Adam Curry: bit. What do you
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little bit, just a tad.

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John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, just

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Adam Curry: a little bit. You
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that's what was happening there.
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John C Dvorak: yeah. That was
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toe, actually, yeah. And couple
of First of all, we heard what

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we heard. So Scott, I know why
Scott's doing this, and I don't

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know why this is possibly
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Adam Curry: wants, he wants to
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to think he's awesome.

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John C Dvorak: His the sentence
that followed what he said with

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no edits, is what, what, what
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of it. I It is out there,
though, immediately after what

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he said, right at the end of He
says his demonization is

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unconscionable. Now, is he
talking about the comedian, or

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about Trump, or about Trump? We
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And we know, we know Joe Biden.
If you're going to be calling

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everybody a Nazi, a fascist, a
misogynist, you go on and on and

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on, and now

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Adam Curry: he's Mr. Nice Guy.

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John C Dvorak: I mean, so give
me a break. All this is

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nonsense, and if anybody's going
to nobody's going to buy it, and

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nobody's going to buy Scott's
analysis, this was obvious what

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he meant, and he did it on
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subconsciously done it to
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he subconsciously hates the idea
that he's not running because he

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knows he'd be doing better than
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Adam Curry: in in Grand American
tradition, which is somehow the

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opposite of a dean scream. I
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Trump, just and, and this sounds
like, this has a whole, feel

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like it's from his mind. Oh, get
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great idea. Maybe he's,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, you do. I
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Adam Curry: me play this
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explanation clip while former

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Unknown: President Trump holds
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same battlegrounds, speaking in
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responding to President Biden's
comments on Puerto Rico,

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insisting Biden called Trump
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White House says that's not what
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Biden finally said what he and
Kamala really think of our

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supporters. He called them
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and they mean it today, ahead of
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Wisconsin, Trump in a garbage
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I like my garbage truck. This
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Joe Biden. Both

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candidates will then head west
tomorrow, with Trump expected at

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a rally in New Mexico and
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Adam Curry: the Hill Country
Christian nationalists are all

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emailing Psalm two, verse four
around today, he who sits in

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heaven laughs The Lord holds
them in derision. It is. It has

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ignited everybody with with glee
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John C Dvorak: It's really
that's great. Everybody loves

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this, yes.

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Unknown: How did Trump come
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John C Dvorak: So Trump did the
topper. There's a two part. It

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is the two Trump clips I have.
He's in Green Bay wearing the

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vest

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Unknown: vest. So

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Adam Curry: he's wearing, it
needs to be a dirtied up a

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little bit, needed a little, you
know, like a half a banana peel

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or something. It was a little
too clean. Well, I

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John C Dvorak: don't think you
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say this, the vest he's wearing
is not the vest you wore on the

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truck. Oh, well, okay, okay,
change the vest.

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Adam Curry: The Hardy Boys have
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John C Dvorak: different vest,
but that's okay. So he does. He

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does. He talks about how this
came about. Oh, and I and it

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turns into a new bit. This was
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in half and take some some of
the long applause lines out. But

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this is part one of his
explanation outfit. You

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Unknown: know is when they when
he called us all garbage. How

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stupid. What a stupid word. That
blows deplorable away. Don't you

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think? Of course, I thought
irredeemable. When she said

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deplorable or irredeemable, I
thought irredeemable was

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actually worse, but deplorable
seemed to catch up. But this

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garbage stuff blows blows it
away. So I'm in this beautiful

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plane. I'm enjoying myself. Have
a wonderful suit on beautiful

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plane.

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I and one of my people came in
and said, Sir, you know the word

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garbage is the hottest thing
right now out there, the hottest

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thing out there, sir, would you
like to drive a garbage truck?

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I. Yeah, we're about, you know,
30 minutes from landing. We had

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to do this pretty quick. I said,
it's sort of cool though, isn't

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it? Because, you know? And I
said, you know, I think that's

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okay, but, you know, I don't
feel comfortable wearing a suit.

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And they pulled up this garbage
truck. I don't know how the hell

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they did it so fast. I have very
capable people. They put a big

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sign on the truck. Did you see
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then they said, Sir, we have a
vest. I said, Well, should I

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leave my suit on and put it over
the vest? But that doesn't look

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very good, right? That doesn't
look good. So I said, I look,

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let me take it off. And then I
actually said I climbed into the

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truck, but here, so I said, How
the hell do you get into the

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truck? It's way up high. This
was a beauty. I said, You didn't

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have to buy it that big, right?
You have to get it that big.

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They brought this brand new,
gorgeous truck, wonderful

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driver. It looked like Cary
Grant in his prime driver, and

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he drove that big thing up. And
I said, Man, this is bad,

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because now I have all the
cameras. Are all what look at,

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all the fake news. They were
most of them.

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Adam Curry: He did have to do a
little hoisting to get himself

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in. I noticed. I mean, he pulled
it off. He pulled it off,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, well, he
continues with the story. Now,

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Unknown: most of them, many of
them were there, and I'm saying,

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oh boy. You know, one little
mistake with these guys in your

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political career is over. You
can't even so I said, Man, if I

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don't get up there, this is
going to be very embarrassing.

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These stupid people, they'll say
he's cognitively and physically

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impaired. And I can't do that
when I'm alongside of this great

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athlete, I got to get up to that
so, so look, so the stair, the

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first stairs, like, up here, I'm
saying shit. So I had the

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adrenaline going, and I made it.
I made it. And then I gave a

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little news conference from the
front of the you know, they

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asked their wise guy questions
and everything. And then we

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drove about two feet, I got out,
and then I got in the car, and

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I'm driving over here, and I
have this still on, and I come

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into the arena, and I say,
Where's my jacket? I want to get

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out of this stage. And they
said, it would be unbelievable

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if you could wear it on stage.
And I said, No way. I got 25,000

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people standing outside. I got
all these people here. There's

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no way I'm wearing it on stage.
They said, Oh, okay, sir. I

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said, Get me my jacket. But if
you did, you know it actually

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makes you look thinner, I said,
and they got me. I said, I want

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to wear it on stage. When they
said I look thinner, I said, in

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that case, I may never wear a
blue jacket again. I may go, I

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may go in this I said that that
was my that was the Word, that

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was the key so you look thinner.
So anyway, so we had a little

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fun about a very serious
subject. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: that I'm actually
laughing about his stick here

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that is self deprecating a lot
more than he did in 2016 or 2020

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John C Dvorak: for that matter.
Yeah, and that works. That whole

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bit is very endearing. So by the
way, you know that that's funny,

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that getting into that truck
because, because Brune I got,

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Brunetti, has a fire truck
that's similar to that garbage

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truck in terms of getting into
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Adam Curry: That's the one you
crashed into the fence. I never

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crashed into

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John C Dvorak: the fence. But
you, you have, you have to

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actually be shown how to get
into it, because you just this

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you look at it is, why do you
get into this thing? It's a very

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similar you have to, and if you
watch Trump get into it. You see

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that part of the mechanism is
grabbing a hole of a couple of

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grips that you have to know
where they are, and you have to

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pull yourself in. Well, what's

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Adam Curry: happening here with
this? You know, a typical retail

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politician move as you go to the
to the rodeo, to the county

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fair, you eat the stupid corn
dog, you know, you pretend you

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like the burger,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, and they
take a picture of you sucking in

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a giant corn dog,

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Adam Curry: and you got, you
gotta have your shirt sleeves

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rolled up and your jacket off,
which is all phony, but this is

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just, this is such an obvious
one. It makes so much, by the

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way, also looks like an like an
airport Marshall, or with the

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jacket on, it looks like a
construction worker. I mean,

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people identify with that vest.
So it, I think that will go down

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as just a brilliant move. I want
to go back, though, because this

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all started, and it was, it was,
I mean, I didn't clip my hate,

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listen, but I, I'm telling you,
Kara and Scott were like, This

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is the October surprise. Now we
can get all the. Puerto Ricans

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to vote for Kamala. And these
people are so insanely stupid. I

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mean, and just and jitty about

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John C Dvorak: the October
surprise, was the comic? Yes,

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that was

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Adam Curry: the October
surprise. Yes, there was even

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some stories like it was people
were emailing me. It was a

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setup, right? It was a setup,
right? He was a setup for him to

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do that. What are you talking
about? I'm gonna go to NPR

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first, because they summarize
the Madison Square rally as

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you'd expect them to former
President

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Unknown: Trump was in New York
holding a rally at Madison

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Square Garden, and one of the
speakers described Harris as

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quote, the anti christ. That was
one of many insults and

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grievances as Trump made his
final appeal to the nation NPR

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political

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correspondent Daniel Kurtz Laban
was in the arena. Daniel, good

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morning. Hey. Good morning. Good
morning. What was it like?

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Well, it was a Trump rally, but
it was dialed way up in

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intensity. It started with more
than four hours of guest

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speakers, and the first guest of
the night set what was a pretty

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vitriolic tone. Comedian and
podcaster Tony Hinchcliffe joked

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that Puerto Rico is, quote, a
floating island of garbage. He

447
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also said the Kansas City Chiefs
tight end Travis Kelsey quote

448
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might be the next O J Simpson
Kelsey, of course, is dating

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Harris supporter Taylor Swift.
So what we have here seems to be

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a joke about killing one of the
most famous women in the world,

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and it just went from there. One
speaker seemed to imply that

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Harris is a prostitute. Tucker
Carlson made fun of Harris being

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biracial. He also called her low
IQ. Later in his speech, Carlson

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nodded to the racist great
replacement theory. So just

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overall, a really inflammatory
night, given

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that Republicans are trying to
appeal to all kinds of people,

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this doesn't sound like a
unifying message. Big mistake.

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No, that matters. I mean,
consider the gender gap in this

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election. Polls show Trump is
ahead with men that he's well

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behind with women. Well, when
one of his openers jokes about

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Taylor Swift being killed by her
boyfriend, that arguably isn't a

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winning message for those women
voters. Wow.

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Adam Curry: What a way to
explain a joke. I need to say

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something about hitch Cliff for
a moment, as I because I watched

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it, you know, by saw him. I saw
most of those in real time. And

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as I'm watching him, who and his
whole message was free speech,

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freedom of speech and being able
to say what you want, and not

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everybody getting so butthurt.
We happen to be re watching all

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of Seinfeld, starting at episode
one, which, by the way, Kramer

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was called Kessler in episode
one, oddly, and episode two, he

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was Kramer. And you know, so
Jerry Seinfeld. If you've never

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seen the show, he does, you
know, it's opens with some stand

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up of his, where he kind of sets
up with his observational humor,

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sets up the episode, and then he
comes back about three quarters

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of the way through, and then
sometimes at the end, and I'm

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just thinking to myself, I
remember what it was like in New

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York in the 80s. You had the
comedy cellar and all these

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other places, and all of these
comics would come onto MTV, and

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you know, Gilbert Gottfried,
Judy tenuta AND ELMO Gosh,

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John C Dvorak: to new to yeah,

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Adam Curry: oh yeah, they would
do VJ segments, and, you know,

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and obviously, from time to
time, hey, come by the club and

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see my set tonight. And they
would do, you know, this kind of

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stand up that Tony hitch cliff
is doing. And it was like no one

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was butthurt. You might get
booed or heckled, but it wasn't

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like people were ready to go
beat you up and call you a Nazi.

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And I mean the Taylor Swift OJ
joke was pretty funny in

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context, so we just lost that
with the bullying and school and

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the hate speech and all this
stuff. And somehow it came back,

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and hitchcliffe, along with
others, is kind of making it

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okay to do that again, without
everybody getting all off kilter

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about it. Now this nats Nazi
rally comparison 1939 this

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started with Atlantic magazine.
It started with an article by, I

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forget who it is in Atlantic
magazine, which I can't read

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because it's behind a paywall,
but all right, I guess NPR and

496
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,840
all the hoity toity people read
it, and so they all went, oh

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yeah, oh yeah, that's right.
It's a 1939 Nazi rally. And I

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00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:15,540
just happened to come across
this clip. Is

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John C Dvorak: that the article
that said that equated Trump

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with Hitler Stalin again? Yes.
Oh, you well, you know who the

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writer was,

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Unknown: hit me and Apple

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00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,260
Adam Curry: ball? Oh, of course.
And we know who owns the

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00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:34,220
Atlantic. Laureen Powell Jobs,
Lorraine,

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John C Dvorak: Lorraine,

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Adam Curry: Lorraine Powell
Jobs,

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I happen to have a short clip
here of an interview that she

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did on recode, which is was Kara
Swisher conference sitting on

509
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stage. It's Lauren Powell Jobs
and Kamala Harris. How

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00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:57,580
coincidental is that? And it's
about why she bought Atlantic

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magazine.

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Unknown: It was pretty awesome.
Obvious to me that we could

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build we, yeah, we.

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Adam Curry: By the way, she's
really pretty in this interview.

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You know, over time, I think
she's gotten ugly because of the

516
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inside she's like, Ah,

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John C Dvorak: I agree with you
100% on purpose, that's

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Adam Curry: all right, but she
was pretty during this

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00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360
interview. Like, wow. She was
stunning, and she became

520
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,020
unpretty.

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Unknown: It was pretty obvious
to me that we could build, we,

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you know, we, we build out in a
very cross disciplinary way our

523
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:35,780
work, you know, capital
investing and policy and

524
00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:39,980
philanthropy, and we could do
this work forever and ever, and

525
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:47,620
we could have the narrative
overtaken by by someone who's

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who has a lot of power, who's
completely contrary to us, and

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we could never get to the place
where we think we're part of a

528
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more just and equal society. And
so it was obvious that if we

529
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could be part of the the
creation of cultural narrative

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00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,520
that would, that would enhance
and amplify all the work that

531
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we're doing, which is

532
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:14,520
Hillary Clinton talked about
today, is telling the story,

533
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760
getting the content out there.
Yeah, she was yes, yeah, yeah.

534
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,020
These are, these are early days
for us, but that's that's the

535
00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:24,620
idea behind it. We want to
inspire the kind of stories that

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00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:25,700
we'd like to see told.

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00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:28,280
Do you ever see you buying
something bigger, like the New

538
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,760
York Times, for example? Is it
for sale? It could be for you.

539
00:31:32,660 --> 00:31:35,540
Adam Curry: So there it is. She
bought it with her philanthropy

540
00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:38,240
and with her investments and
with her contacts to set

541
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,920
cultural narrative and an apple
bomb. I'm sure they're all

542
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,740
hanging out at the tea table.
And there's, hey, I know what

543
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:48,340
you got. I got a great idea,
Lauren. I got a great idea. So

544
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:52,780
then the mainstream, the M, 5m
comes into into play. They've

545
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,960
all got the memo. They've all
got the message, yep, this is it

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00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,320
night we we played somewhat on
the last episode is it was

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insane. The comparisons before
the rally even took place,

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00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:06,720
before it even took place, it
was all just everyone off, off

549
00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:09,840
the hook. And I mean seriously,
and

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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,300
John C Dvorak: I have not even
really the same venue. It's

551
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:16,260
called the same thing. But the
Madison Square Gardens of today

552
00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:21,380
was actually opened in 1968 Oh,
that's interesting. The other

553
00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:25,220
No, that place was not even, it
was not even there now someplace

554
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:28,940
else, which makes it funnier
now. So

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00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:32,540
Adam Curry: I have a series of
NPR clips that are just, I have

556
00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:35,000
to play that, because they're
not to be believed. But I need

557
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,140
to start with, you know, Morning
Joe. They've, they've been all

558
00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:43,480
over this. They've been saying
he's Hitler Since 2015 but then

559
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,580
Mika, it shows up on the view
and and she and she has a

560
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:52,780
rehearsed bit, which is just, I
mean, she's a mental patient.

561
00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:56,200
Mental Mika was pathetic. Oh,
you've seen this. Oh, yeah,

562
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,500
Unknown: I think it was
everything that you need to know

563
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:05,460
about Donald Trump in one weird
white nationalist Nazi type

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00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:09,060
rally. And of course, there's
historic parallels to where and

565
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when the cards. But even more
so, it also points out

566
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:16,560
everything that we know, but
it's important to act on right

567
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,620
now, because this is the moment,
and we won't have it again.

568
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,100
Nobody gets a pass. Trashing
America, Puerto Rican Americans.

569
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:28,100
Nobody gets a pass, degrading
people. This

570
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:31,040
Adam Curry: is so I'm sure Joe
was like Mika, this is your

571
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,700
nobody gets a pass speech. It's
It's beautiful. It's beautiful,

572
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baby. You go do it on the view.
Nobody

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00:33:37,220 --> 00:33:39,980
Unknown: gets a pass. Degrading
legal mind migrants and

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00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:44,920
terrorizing people. Nobody gets
a pass threatening his enemies

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00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,180
with using the military against
against them. Nobody gets a pass

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00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:54,460
on inciting an insurrection.
Nobody gets a pass on saying he

577
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:58,420
fancies Hitler and wants to have
generals like his

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John C Dvorak: pretty fancy
Hitler. For those

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00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:04,140
Adam Curry: who don't know, Mika
is Mika Brzezinski, daughter of

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00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,100
famous Brzezinski, who was
probably one of the biggest war

581
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,160
mongers in our in our history,
Afghan he's a

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00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:13,320
John C Dvorak: foreign policy
wonk that worked under the

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Carter administration and
others, and was definitely a he

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was from Eastern Europe, and he
hated the Russians, and he

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everything. He was just plotting
against them, trying to get the

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00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:26,840
US government he really would
love to have seen world war

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three.

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Unknown: Nobody gets a pass on
insulting veterans and saying

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those who have died for our
country.

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Adam Curry: I think she missed
the very fine people, but she

591
00:34:36,620 --> 00:34:38,960
had everything else are suckers

592
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:45,100
Unknown: and losers, except for
convicted felon Donald Trump.

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You all have set it up, but let
me take it a step further,

594
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,300
please. You may this is called
normalization.

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00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,500
Adam Curry: Remember this word
normalization? It's very

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00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,700
dangerous. Is, this is called,
this is John. In case you didn't

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00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:05,640
know, this is called
normalization. This

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00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Unknown: is called
normalization. Yes, this is the

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descent into fascism, if we so
choose normalizing January 6.

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It's a day of love. It's a day
of love. I'll say it again and

601
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,960
again and again. Normalizing
enemy from within. I'll say it

602
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,780
again and again. I'll say it
again and again until you get

603
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:26,720
tired of it, until it's not so
funny anymore, or you think he

604
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,240
doesn't mean it, until you
realize he does mean it, and

605
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,800
it's too late.

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00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,580
Adam Curry: Now wait now, she's
kind of winded up by talking

607
00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:39,260
about herself and her poor
parents, her poor parents, the

608
00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:42,160
evil chess master himself,
Brzezinski,

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00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,880
Unknown: these strict abortion
bans, oh no, are a beautiful

610
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,440
thing. Are you kidding me? We
got to wake up. And here's the

611
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,040
good news, because I come with
such warnings, and I mean them

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00:35:54,100 --> 00:36:00,040
from the bottom of my heart, as
a daughter of refugees who came

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,580
here escaping war,

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00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:04,980
Adam Curry: to go and try and
start more war.

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,300
Unknown: Came here for America
to be a part of a democracy,

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yes, to be a part of building
something beautiful where they

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00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,740
could be free and kill other
people. I'm telling you, the

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00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:22,040
good news is that I believe
women will be the beacon in this

619
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,580
election.

620
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,220
Adam Curry: Women will be the
beacon in this election. Okay,

621
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:29,120
so, my God, it went on from two
more minutes and she's almost

622
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,860
crying. Now she's a terrible
person. Yes, she is. So now NPR

623
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:38,540
and this, I mean, this just blew
me away. I have the setup clip

624
00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:44,440
is, is a little long. The rest
are quite short. So on the

625
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,980
media, on the media. Brooke
Brooke Gladstone, on the media.

626
00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:54,040
Brooke Gladstone, she had Jason
Stanley on the show, and he she

627
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,220
will introduce his credits in a
moment. But I did not want to

628
00:36:57,220 --> 00:37:02,400
withhold the setup. Pay
attention to the music. Someone

629
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,440
should get a should get some
kind of award for the music with

630
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,960
her, her opening about this
horrible, horrible man of Hitler

631
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:13,200
on

632
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,920
Unknown: Sunday, Donald Trump
hosted a rally at Madison Square

633
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Garden in New York, prompting
critics to compare the event to

634
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,720
another one in the same place
many years

635
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,680
Adam Curry: was not the same
place. Fake News. Fact check,

636
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,760
Unknown: false. In 1939 more
than 20,000 supporters of a

637
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,960
different fascist leader, Adolf
Hitler, packed the garden for a

638
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,480
so called Pro America rally.
Remind

639
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,320
Adam Curry: you, this is NPR,
your National Public Radio

640
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,440
John C Dvorak: use the word the
usage is here, a different

641
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,720
fascist leader. Oh, yeah,

642
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:53,020
Adam Curry: it's too delicious,
implying,

643
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:55,420
John C Dvorak: of course, that
Trump is a fascist leader.

644
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,400
Adam Curry: Oh, they're going to
straight up say it. Don't

645
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,220
Unknown: worry. Packed the
garden for a so called Pro

646
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,140
America rally, a rally where
speakers voiced anti semitic

647
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:07,860
rhetoric from a stage draped
with Nazi banners. Those

648
00:38:07,860 --> 00:38:11,040
speeches in New York drew
chilling attention to the ways

649
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,720
in which American policy had
inspired the furor American

650
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,560
lawmakers, generations ago,
promulgated laws for beating

651
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,220
intermarriage.

652
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,360
Adam Curry: I love this. So the
set your tone, they bring out

653
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,200
this old speech, you know, like
these are American Nazis. Oh,

654
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,800
no, green,

655
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,660
Unknown: white and black,
yellow, brown and red.

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00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:32,600
Inhabitants, it has then always

657
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John C Dvorak: been very What
guy sounds Irish? Ain't mine.

658
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:36,620
Big

659
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Unknown: Bucha, American.
Wherever a race problem became

660
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,100
acute to instinctively attempt
to create legislation designed

661
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,680
to protect the Aryan character
of this nation,

662
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:52,660
a night's rally at the garden
Trump and his allies, untempered

663
00:38:52,660 --> 00:38:57,940
and Unbound, traded in racist
tropes, untempered and unbound

664
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,280
nationalistic rhetoric to an
eager crowd warmed up by the

665
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,440
Insult Comic Tony Hinchcliffe. I

666
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,840
don't know if you guys know
this, but there's literally a

667
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,140
floating island of garbage in
the middle of the ocean right

668
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:10,500
now.

669
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:11,280
Yeah, I

670
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:12,900
think it's called Puerto Rico.

671
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:17,820
The lineup included Tucker
Carlson, Elon Musk, RFK Junior,

672
00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:23,240
Rudy Giuliani and the resolution
Stephen Miller, America

673
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,600
is for Americans and Americans
only. Then, of

674
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,160
course, the main attraction the

675
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:37,160
United States is now an occupied
country, but it will soon be an

676
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,140
occupied country no longer not
going to be happening, not going

677
00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:41,920
to be happening,

678
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:45,400
Adam Curry: okay, so and just
everything is a beautiful setup.

679
00:39:45,940 --> 00:39:49,060
So now she brings in the
professor. They always bring in

680
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:49,900
these professors that,

681
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,720
John C Dvorak: by the way, where
you're playing is absolutely

682
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,220
shameful. Oh,

683
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,940
Adam Curry: you. We're only
getting started. She brings in a

684
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professor, uh.

685
00:40:01,020 --> 00:40:03,480
John C Dvorak: People, by the
way, people who send their money

686
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,460
to NPR should be sending it to
us

687
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,760
Adam Curry: just just Yes. So
Jason Stanley is going to

688
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,040
introduce some new concepts to
us, some new terms, and he is

689
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,400
going to explain the fascism of
Trump, and His credits will be

690
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,780
mentioned in the intro here.

691
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,320
Unknown: In the past few weeks,
there seemed to come a tipping

692
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,820
point where Trump's speeches
became increasingly specific

693
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:35,720
about the vengeance he'd wreak
against his enemies, and even

694
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:37,340
those who had hesitated

695
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,080
John C Dvorak: were now listen
to the music. The music is

696
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,680
terrible

697
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:46,120
Unknown: against his enemies.
And even those who had hesitated

698
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,900
were now applying the word
fascist, fascist go peas

699
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:50,500
nominee,

700
00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:52,600
Adam Curry: even those who
hesitated on

701
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,000
Unknown: last week's show, we
aired an interview with Jason

702
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,360
Stanley, a professor of
philosophy at Yale University

703
00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:03,120
who has used the F word to
describe Trump, early and often,

704
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,840
Professor

705
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:09,960
Adam Curry: of Philosophy. Now,
what, what does a does a

706
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,260
professor of philosophy? Is he
that an expert in fascism?

707
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:18,240
John C Dvorak: Well, that is a
funny thing. You should ask that

708
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:22,940
because of fascism, was a kind
of philosophically bound to

709
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:27,320
certain philosophers. Well, I
think you could it's a stretch,

710
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:29,120
but not a bad one.

711
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,940
Adam Curry: Let's listen to the
good professor Trump. Early

712
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:32,840
Unknown: and often,

713
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:37,100
I've been sort of involved in
the, let's call it fascism wars,

714
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,380
since my 2018 book, when I
talked about how much the

715
00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:45,820
rhetoric we're seeing is just
very clearly fascist rhetoric.

716
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,300
So

717
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:49,060
Trump's been called
authoritarian, dangerous for

718
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:54,760
democracy for a long time. What
has he done or said or implied

719
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,580
that advances him from a threat
to democracy to a fascist?

720
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,680
I think

721
00:42:01,740 --> 00:42:05,340
focusing on Trump is a mistake,
because it's really the whole

722
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:08,160
fascist social and political
movement, and that's why the

723
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,240
history of the United States is
so vital. Rather than looking at

724
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,120
Europe, where we did have
figures like Mussolini and

725
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,020
Hitler, we need to look at the
whole structure. For example,

726
00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:23,060
Langston Hughes in 1937 said
black Americans don't need to be

727
00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:27,380
told about fascism. It's just a
European word for Jim Crow. But

728
00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:31,880
now we have a much more European
structure with a fascist leader

729
00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:35,000
of a fascist social and
political movement, kind of

730
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,440
Christian fascism? Here,

731
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,300
there we go.

732
00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:43,960
John C Dvorak: We have another
atheist, Christian fascism.

733
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:46,540
Adam Curry: Oh, it's good. What
are the stepping stones? What

734
00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:46,720
are

735
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,260
Unknown: the stepping stones?
What is happening now that so

736
00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:51,760
alarms you? Well,

737
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:57,760
you're looking at the targets of
fascism, immigrants, LGBTQ

738
00:42:57,820 --> 00:43:01,080
people, which were central
targets of the Nazi Party.

739
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:05,520
Gender fluidity is an enemy of
fascism, because Fascism is

740
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,240
about making sure the dominant
group remains numerically the

741
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:13,080
largest group, and women are
there to bear children. So the

742
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,100
idea of trans women is
antithetical to the central role

743
00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:22,460
the identity of women in fascist
ideology on the federal party.

744
00:43:22,580 --> 00:43:23,780
Isn't this great?

745
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:27,200
John C Dvorak: Is this guy just
making it up as he's going

746
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,820
along? No, gender ideology is
somehow now tied up in this

747
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:32,480
whole thing.

748
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:36,500
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, you can't
have trans women because guy is

749
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,040
basically

750
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,840
John C Dvorak: a genderist.
Well,

751
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:43,420
Unknown: see in Project 2025 and
elsewhere, Trump has been clear

752
00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:48,400
that they want funding from
school districts unless they use

753
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:54,340
immutable gender categories, so
all children born male must be

754
00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:57,460
referred to with male pronouns.
Oh,

755
00:43:57,460 --> 00:44:01,920
Adam Curry: the human pronouns.
Oh, the humanity and of course,

756
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:05,220
you know this proof that this is
happening. I mean, just take a

757
00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:06,180
look at it, and we're

758
00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:09,240
Unknown: already seeing that
here. The Supreme Court has been

759
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,500
altered. So it's just a vehicle
for far right policy at this

760
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:14,640
point, and for Trump,

761
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,820
Adam Curry: oh, it's been
altered. By the way, Democrat

762
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:21,020
senators also voted for the
Supreme Court justices. We seem

763
00:44:21,020 --> 00:44:23,900
to forget that. It's like Trump
just said, Get in there. Get in

764
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:24,320
there.

765
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,100
John C Dvorak: Now. Now bad news
hasn't been altered any more so

766
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:34,340
than it's ever been altered by
changing justices. When one

767
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:36,140
quits, another one gets put in

768
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,380
Adam Curry: now we go to the
normalization bit.

769
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,140
Unknown: This is a 911, call
those who are refusing the label

770
00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:47,680
of fascism, are normalizing what
we're seeing. Do

771
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,980
Adam Curry: you hear a narrative
here, this normalization? He got

772
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:53,320
the memo. You got the memo. Are
normalizing

773
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,460
Unknown: what we're seeing
because impact of saying this is

774
00:44:57,460 --> 00:45:02,160
not fascism, that impact. On
listeners, is okay, we really

775
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,880
don't need to worry much. This
is politics as usual. This is

776
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,540
not politics as usual. That's
not to say that these forces

777
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:13,200
haven't always been here in the
United States. There's another

778
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,060
way of looking at it, just where
this is sort of a victory of

779
00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:22,460
whatever the Jim Crow South has
transformed into, and I think

780
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,260
there's widespread agreement
that this is the federalizing of

781
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:30,800
what's happening in states like
Texas now, in the black American

782
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,440
tradition, you call those forces
racial fascism.

783
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:37,880
Adam Curry: Racial fascism. I
don't know what I am now. I'm a

784
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,460
racial Christian, nationalist
fascist.

785
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,480
John C Dvorak: You know these
guys in this Jim Crow meme.

786
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,140
Nobody knows what they're
talking about. This is elitist

787
00:45:47,140 --> 00:45:48,400
bull crap. Well,

788
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,060
Adam Curry: it's NPR, elitist
voices. Okay. Why are people

789
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:54,760
voting for Trump? I mean, if
he's so fascist, this is not

790
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,540
good. So

791
00:45:55,540 --> 00:45:59,380
Unknown: let's consider why
people vote for Trump. Some say

792
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:02,940
it's because he'll solve
structural problems within

793
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,320
American democracy. Do you think
that people who vote for Trump

794
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:12,420
do it because of or despite his
fascist leanings?

795
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,980
There's a large level.

796
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:19,140
John C Dvorak: What a leading
question. Great, are you still

797
00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:22,220
beating your wife? Come on. Yes
or No, are you still beating

798
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:24,320
your wife? Yes or No, his

799
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,820
Unknown: fascist leanings.

800
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,320
There is a large literature on
what makes people vote for

801
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:35,480
authoritarians or strong men and
Ruth bend, the authoritarian

802
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,320
personality. Work by Adorno and
co authors published nearly

803
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,760
1950s Oh, he's got facts, John,
I'm a little intimidated all

804
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,060
about this, the authoritarian
personality being someone who

805
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:50,200
leans towards voting for fascist
leaders. They even came up with

806
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,340
something called the F scale,
fascism scale for measuring

807
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:57,640
this. And the features are
things like being raised in a

808
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,320
patriarchal family, because
patriarchy is very central for

809
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,560
fascism. And the whole idea of

810
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,520
Adam Curry: if you're raised in
a patriarchal family, ie you got

811
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,940
a dad, you got a mom, then
you're pretty much on track to

812
00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:13,740
be a fascist. Is that what I'm
hearing

813
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:15,120
John C Dvorak: Yes, exactly.

814
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,740
Unknown: Because patriarchy is
very central for fascism, and

815
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:23,060
the whole idea of decline is
connected with feminism.

816
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:26,720
My country goes downhill if
women stop having babies and

817
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,600
start taking leadership roles,
though,

818
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:32,720
Adam Curry: that, of course, we
can't have women in leadership

819
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,700
roles. I got it now this is,

820
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:37,640
John C Dvorak: by the way,
before I forget. This is leading

821
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,420
to the bonus clip. Oh, good,
good. I

822
00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:43,000
Adam Curry: have the bonus clip.
I'm almost done. A couple, I'm

823
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,720
almost done. These

824
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,160
John C Dvorak: are sure. Keep
going. These are short. I'm

825
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,180
enjoying this, believe me. Okay,
so this guy, who is obviously a

826
00:47:49,180 --> 00:47:53,560
genderist, yeah, who is, uh, is
gay, there's no question, and

827
00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:58,420
gay atheist, and he's setting
back the gay uh, agenda.

828
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:01,740
Adam Curry: He's a gay theist.

829
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,940
John C Dvorak: He's a gay
theist.

830
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:09,180
Adam Curry: Gay, I think
atheist. Atheist is an

831
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:12,960
interesting, interesting show
title, so, but it's really, it's

832
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,660
not just Trump. I mean, this is
gonna roll everybody up in here

833
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,960
and and Brooke has a very
interesting observation here

834
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,540
about democracy. You know, now
we just to remind everybody, we

835
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:26,420
live in a constitutional
republic. We have representative

836
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:30,500
government, but, oh, our
democracy, our democracy. And

837
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:33,920
she's actually going to explain
what she believes democracy is a

838
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,700
very short clip.

839
00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:37,640
Unknown: I mean, that's why we
have to recognize that this

840
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:42,700
isn't just about Trump. This is
a social and political movement

841
00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:47,260
of Christo fascism, if you will.
And libertarians. Is

842
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:50,680
Adam Curry: it? What is Christo
fascism? Christian

843
00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:56,260
Unknown: croque and libertarians
who want the government liberty,

844
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:59,860
John C Dvorak: or fascists,
Libertarians of all the people

845
00:48:59,860 --> 00:49:03,900
that call fascists libertarians
and libertarians

846
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:07,320
Unknown: who want the government
to be essentially eliminated so

847
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,860
they can have full power and not
be constrained by essentially

848
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440
working class Americans. So they
don't want,

849
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,380
John C Dvorak: they want. So now
they're eight, they're they're

850
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:23,360
one of those government Hey,
anarchist, anarchist. Somehow,

851
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,780
libertarians are anarchists, is
what he said.

852
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,720
Adam Curry: Now, Brooke is going
to expand on this very short so

853
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:33,680
just listen 18 seconds, what
democracy really is working

854
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,040
class

855
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,640
Unknown: Americans

856
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:37,760
so they don't have to share. I
mean, isn't that what it's

857
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,200
about? Yes, it's

858
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,800
about sharing, because democracy
is about sharing.

859
00:49:45,220 --> 00:49:49,600
Adam Curry: What democracy is
about sharing? John, listen,

860
00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:50,920
it's about this

861
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,460
John C Dvorak: is the this is
the real, the basic breakdown

862
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:57,940
between the left and the right,
which is one side, once

863
00:49:58,180 --> 00:50:02,520
communal. It's communist. Is
they want socialism and they

864
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,780
want government control, which
is forced sharing. You're forced

865
00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:09,120
to share. Here. Give me your
money. I'm going to give it to

866
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,480
this guy, as opposed to self
help, which is the other side of

867
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,560
the equation. Here we go.

868
00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:15,960
Unknown: It's about sharing,
because democracy is about

869
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,920
sharing. Democracy is the idea
that it's our country together

870
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,020
and we work together to have
public goods like public

871
00:50:24,020 --> 00:50:27,500
schools, which are under attack
by this social and political

872
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:27,980
movement

873
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,120
John C Dvorak: our Biden mcfrie.
And by the way, there is nothing

874
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,540
about democracy and public
schools. There's no connection.

875
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:36,620
I don't get this.

876
00:50:36,860 --> 00:50:40,040
Adam Curry: Well, no, there is
the if you listen to the whole

877
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,720
interview he talks about, you
know, how incredibly important

878
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,740
it is that we keep the
Department of Education so it

879
00:50:47,740 --> 00:50:51,460
can continue to indoctrinate the
children into sharing, into the

880
00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:56,320
concept of democracy sharing. I
mean, this is, this is very

881
00:50:56,380 --> 00:51:01,380
infantile speak, but it's, it's
propaganda. Democracy is about

882
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:05,640
sharing. Don't you want to
share? Jimmy, come on, Johnny,

883
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,400
don't you want to share with
Adam, we share, and we all like

884
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,020
to work together. Then we work
according to what we can do, and

885
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:18,960
we all have equal outcomes. It
sounds fantastic, yes, according

886
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,740
John C Dvorak: to his needs.
There you go Marx from each

887
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,800
according to his abilities, that
is not democracy, that is

888
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,060
communism. Yes,

889
00:51:27,020 --> 00:51:31,880
Adam Curry: two more here. Now,
of course, he doesn't mention

890
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,120
podcasts, but it's kind of in
here. But it's really, it's

891
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,980
really the media. I mean, it's,
it's especially local radio and

892
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:43,360
I mean just radio. I mean, it's
television, radio, it's there.

893
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,200
They're doing it. We

894
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,740
Unknown: have the destruction of
local media by being bought up

895
00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:51,820
by these in case of Sinclair or
far right media conglomerates.

896
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,180
And

897
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:56,200
a lot of local radio has been
bought up by, I guess you would

898
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,840
call it Christian fascists. Yes,

899
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,940
yes. That's not local media.

900
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:06,240
Adam Curry: I know, like no
mention of Soros buying all the

901
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,120
radio stations. Obviously, I'm
not going to say that, because

902
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,460
we know that that's bull crap
too, yes,

903
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,400
Unknown: and that's not local
media. I mean, people will

904
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,720
simply cease to trust media, and
that environment, as we know,

905
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:23,300
combined with social media,
results in conspiracy theories

906
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,520
having Ferrari engines.

907
00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:29,240
Adam Curry: Oh, conspiracy
theories with Ferrari engines.

908
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,660
And then he wraps it all up by
crazily enough, saying, Well,

909
00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:38,900
John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
So that was the best he could do

910
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:43,600
for a metaphor conspiracies
which already have nothing to do

911
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,560
with automobiles or anything
with Ferrari engines. And this,

912
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,180
this is like, um, this is, this
is lame. This guy. He's

913
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:55,480
Unknown: not good. He's a
gatheist. He's a gay theus.

914
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,100
Would he expect? Now, I

915
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:00,600
Adam Curry: was going to wrap it
up by saying it's but it's

916
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,980
really not fascism. People

917
00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:04,440
Unknown: get bogged down in
these kind of irrelevant

918
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,180
details. What we have is a far
right authoritarianism that

919
00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:13,560
targets the same targets Hitler
did. And the people who are

920
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,580
like, Okay, you shouldn't call
it fascists, fully agree that

921
00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:22,100
this movement has all the
dangers of fascism, so I use the

922
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:26,420
term fascism because we don't
have another word for something

923
00:53:26,420 --> 00:53:30,140
that looks so much like fascism.
Everyone agrees, even in the

924
00:53:30,140 --> 00:53:33,860
fascism debate, that what we're
facing is very dangerous. Money

925
00:53:33,860 --> 00:53:34,340
shot,

926
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,240
Adam Curry: we don't have a word
for it, so just use fascism.

927
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:49,840
Come on. NPR, sure, out of
control. I know, I know that

928
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,260
John C Dvorak: brings me to a
clip I actually wanted. I'd

929
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:55,780
rather play a couple other
things before, I guess the Cuban

930
00:53:55,780 --> 00:53:59,680
clip. Sure, which is more crap
from these people. This is a

931
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,500
campaign about the DC speech
PBS, I they would. This is a,

932
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:11,760
this is the PBS, not NPR. I got
NPR stuff too. Yes,

933
00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:12,300
Unknown: yes,

934
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,760
John C Dvorak: I got NPR under
garbage. I still have four clips

935
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,180
here. You

936
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:17,880
Adam Curry: probably should play
the just so we get a straight

937
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,440
Unknown: voices of America. This
is NPR,

938
00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:26,780
John C Dvorak: or people, so
PBS, which is very slanted, is

939
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:32,300
it's really pathetic, actually.
But here they're talking about,

940
00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:35,120
they're wrapping the campaign.
We only got five days left,

941
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,360
right? And so we're going to
talk about the DC speech that

942
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,260
commonly all this great speech
she gave the one that was

943
00:54:41,260 --> 00:54:44,080
undercut by Biden's garbage
comment. They don't

944
00:54:44,260 --> 00:54:46,660
Adam Curry: no one's talking
about her DC speech.

945
00:54:48,220 --> 00:54:50,500
John C Dvorak: But PBS is here
we go, of course.

946
00:54:50,860 --> 00:54:53,380
Unknown: Meanwhile, Vice
President Kamala Harris made her

947
00:54:53,380 --> 00:54:56,440
case in North Carolina's capital
of Raleigh. We

948
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,920
have just six days left in one
of the most common.

949
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,880
Consequential elections of our
lives, and we have work to do

950
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:10,080
in Washington, DC, last night, a
crowd in the 10s of 1000s

951
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,260
gathered to see Harris deliver
her closing arguments on the

952
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:16,680
White House the lips lawn, the
same place Trump gave his

953
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,260
infamous January 6 speech. We

954
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:24,680
know who Donald Trump is he is
the person who stood at this

955
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:31,220
very spot nearly four years ago
and sent an armed mob to the

956
00:55:31,220 --> 00:55:36,980
United States Capitol to
overturn the will of the people

957
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:37,820
in a wait a minute,

958
00:55:37,820 --> 00:55:43,540
Adam Curry: they were armed with
appeal to heaven flags. Is she

959
00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:44,740
doing this on the mall?

960
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,880
John C Dvorak: She's doing it,
yeah. It's called the ellipse, I

961
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Adam Curry: think. Oh, the
ellipse. Free and fair

962
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,840
Unknown: election, Paris painted
Trump as a threat to democracy

963
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,380
and vowed to represent all
Americans these United

964
00:55:59,380 --> 00:56:04,560
States of America. We are not a
vessel for the schemes of

965
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:10,980
wannabe dictators. Wannabe the
United States of America is the

966
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:20,420
greatest idea humanity ever
devised a nation big enough to

967
00:56:20,420 --> 00:56:28,640
encompass all our dreams, strong
enough to withstand any fracture

968
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:35,660
or fissure between us, and
fearless enough to imagine a

969
00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:42,340
future of possibilities. So
America, let us reach for that

970
00:56:42,340 --> 00:56:42,880
future.

971
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:49,360
John C Dvorak: Wasn't democracy
fragile? I don't know, but I

972
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,080
don't know. So they gave that's
kind of a the best they could

973
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,260
do.

974
00:56:54,820 --> 00:56:57,700
Adam Curry: It's inspirational.
It's inspirational. It's It

975
00:56:57,700 --> 00:56:59,560
reminds me a bit of Martin
Luther King. She's

976
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,880
John C Dvorak: screaming at the
top of her lunch. Where's the

977
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,760
joy? Yeah, so joy. So did. So
they continue the report and and

978
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,620
they give the the talk, not talk
about Trump's campaign, where he

979
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:18,540
is. And you can tell me you
can't hear the slant, this anti

980
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:21,980
Trump slant from PBS. And I will
say to people out there, if

981
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:27,140
you're donating to this PBS
operation in any way, shape or

982
00:57:27,140 --> 00:57:30,380
form, stop it and give it to us.

983
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Unknown: Exactly. Trump made his
closing arguments with a large

984
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,840
rally at New York's Madison
Square Garden last Sunday, an

985
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,220
event later criticized for
racist and sexist rhetoric

986
00:57:42,220 --> 00:57:46,000
throughout, including a comedian
calling Puerto Rico, a quote,

987
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,720
floating island of garbage.
Trump responded to the criticism

988
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,280
last night on Fox, they put

989
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,160
a comedian in which everybody
does. You throw comedians in,

990
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,660
you don't vet them and go crazy.
It's nobody's fault, but

991
00:57:58,780 --> 00:58:00,540
somebody said some bad things.

992
00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:03,660
President Biden also weighed in
on a zoom was

993
00:58:03,660 --> 00:58:06,000
Adam Curry: Trump. I didn't know
Trump was backpedaling that

994
00:58:07,140 --> 00:58:09,660
John C Dvorak: somebody caught
off guard right there,

995
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,080
Unknown: but somebody said some
bad things. President

996
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,980
Biden also weighed in on a zoom
call with Latino supporters last

997
00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:17,760
night. The only

998
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,620
garbage I see floating out there
is his supporters, because his

999
00:58:21,740 --> 00:58:24,080
his demonization was seen as
unconscionable.

1000
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,520
Wow, now that, wow.

1001
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,460
John C Dvorak: I'm sure that
adds to the context. Yeah, I'm

1002
00:58:31,460 --> 00:58:34,880
Adam Curry: sure he's not only
talking about kill Tony at that

1003
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,640
point. At that point, he's
clearly talking about Trump.

1004
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,600
Yeah,

1005
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,900
John C Dvorak: there was one
little addition at the end there

1006
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:43,660
the demonization, he had another
little bunch of back it up. See

1007
00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:45,160
me play that again. Who called

1008
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,020
Unknown: with Latino supporters
last night?

1009
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,280
The only garbage I see floating
out there is his supporters. His

1010
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,640
his demonization was seen as
unconscionable, and it's un

1011
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,260
American. His

1012
00:58:56,260 --> 00:58:59,020
Adam Curry: demonization of
things is unconscionable. So it

1013
00:58:59,020 --> 00:59:03,120
wasn't just about Tony
demonizing Puerto Rico, which he

1014
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,620
wasn't. So, yeah, there you go.
So yes, Scott Adams should

1015
00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:09,120
listen to everything in context.

1016
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,060
Unknown: Later clarifying he was
referring to the comedian's

1017
00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:13,920
rhetoric, not Trump voters,

1018
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:18,180
John C Dvorak: by the way.
Harris stop. When did we ever

1019
00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:21,020
hear Biden say any of this
clarification stuff? This was

1020
00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:24,020
all came from John Pierce. She
wrote it, man, she wrote it. She

1021
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,780
Adam Curry: wrote she just wrote
his. Just wrote a statement. He

1022
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:28,160
didn't say anything, he

1023
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,620
John C Dvorak: didn't say
anything. He never apologized.

1024
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:33,920
Adam Curry: Did you see him at
the Halloween party?

1025
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,500
Unknown: No. Oh,

1026
00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:40,760
Adam Curry: so first of all, he
comes out with the giant panda.

1027
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,080
So it wasn't the Easter Bunny
this time. It's a giant panda.

1028
00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:46,780
John C Dvorak: Well, the Easter
Bunny scares him, so

1029
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:50,560
Adam Curry: the panda is
handling him. He's pointing out

1030
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:53,140
over there. And he goes, Huh?
And he walks over. It's a

1031
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:55,780
handler, a literal handler.
Handler.

1032
00:59:58,180 --> 01:00:00,300
John C Dvorak: Wow, we're coming
up with a million. Today,

1033
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,080
Adam Curry: it's a handler and
and then, you know, like, Oh,

1034
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,660
look at this cute baby. And he
goes up and he's biting the

1035
01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:07,260
baby. Oh yeah, he

1036
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:09,420
John C Dvorak: bites the baby,
and then another baby bit the

1037
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,280
other baby too. He bit two
babies.

1038
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:13,920
Adam Curry: I mean, he didn't
get enough for lunch. I mean,

1039
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,840
come on, Joe, his demonization

1040
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,060
Unknown: was seen as
unconscionable, and it's un

1041
01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:19,380
American. Later

1042
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:22,820
clarifying he was referring to
the comedian's rhetoric, not

1043
01:00:22,820 --> 01:00:27,080
Trump voters today. Harris
distanced herself from his

1044
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,160
remarks. First

1045
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,240
of all, he clarified his
comments, but let me be clear, I

1046
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:38,600
strongly disagree with any
criticism of people based on who

1047
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,420
they vote for, and as President
of the United States, I will be

1048
01:00:41,420 --> 01:00:44,860
a president for all Americans.
Whether you vote for me or not

1049
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:45,700
for running

1050
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:48,760
mate. Governor Tim Walz echoed
that message in Charlotte, North

1051
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,480
Carolina.

1052
01:00:49,540 --> 01:00:52,300
We can choose a path that
includes everyone that is

1053
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:55,960
hopeful, that it adheres to the
American values, or we can get

1054
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,040
not dark negative, and sink into
a place that's all about one

1055
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,460
person, Donald Trump. That's the
choice,

1056
01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:06,420
but the Trump campaign pounced
with Senator J, D Vance saying

1057
01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:10,680
Harris and Biden should be
ashamed of themselves. That too

1058
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,980
comes in the context of a
pattern of coarse and insulting

1059
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:15,660
language from Trump. Joe

1060
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:20,660
Biden became mentally impaired.
Kamala was born that way. We

1061
01:01:20,660 --> 01:01:24,140
can't stand you rash vice
president,

1062
01:01:24,980 --> 01:01:28,640
including these remarks today
about Democrats. It's the most

1063
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,260
corrupt,

1064
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:33,740
horrible people. These are
horrible people. Oops, we should

1065
01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:36,080
get along with everybody.
They're horrible people.

1066
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,340
John C Dvorak: There's a little
angle difference there between

1067
01:01:42,340 --> 01:01:46,240
those two. Yeah, of course, of
course. Well, let's go to NPR.

1068
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,900
This is NPR in the garbage
remark. Okay,

1069
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:57,940
Unknown: just the other I'm
sorry, wait, NPR, gar, oh, I got

1070
01:01:57,940 --> 01:01:58,060
it.

1071
01:01:58,420 --> 01:02:01,200
His rally today was mostly
pretty standard for Trump. He

1072
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,440
talked about his plan to do mass
deportations. He also talked

1073
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,680
about inflation. But also, as
you mentioned there, he really

1074
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,800
railed against this comment that
President Biden made Tuesday

1075
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,700
night. Biden had been talking
about Trump Sunday, Madison

1076
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:18,060
Square Garden rally, where, at
that rally, a comedian referred

1077
01:02:18,060 --> 01:02:21,440
to Puerto Rico as a quote,
floating island of garbage.

1078
01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:24,260
Biden in talking about this,

1079
01:02:24,380 --> 01:02:31,520
Adam Curry: that is just in
general. It's this is very

1080
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,800
dishonest reporting. You should
say a comedian made a joke where

1081
01:02:37,220 --> 01:02:41,500
the Puerto Rico was the brunt of
a joke, but to say he referred

1082
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:44,020
to Puerto Rico as a floating
island of garbage,

1083
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,160
John C Dvorak: is this, not only
that, but it's, it's both this

1084
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,540
report and the other one, if you
noticed, they said, quote, oh,

1085
01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:56,380
floating island of garbage. Oh,
interesting. A comedian

1086
01:02:56,380 --> 01:02:59,440
Unknown: referred to Puerto Rico
as a quote, floating island of

1087
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,840
garbage. Biden, in talking about
this, stumbled over his words,

1088
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,220
and it momentarily sounded like
he was calling Trump's garbage,

1089
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:11,820
huh? Okay, so you have this
comment from Biden, and you have

1090
01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:15,300
a series of racist and
misogynist comments from that

1091
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:17,640
New York rally. Tell us how
Trump addressed all of that

1092
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:18,180
today. Did

1093
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:22,940
Adam Curry: he so? Okay, so you
have answers. Quote from Biden,

1094
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:28,760
wow. You know, these people are
all they're gonna be out of a

1095
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,680
job. Podcasting is taking

1096
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,420
John C Dvorak: Jeff Well, yeah,
maybe try to podcast with their

1097
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:36,860
30 producers. Did

1098
01:03:36,860 --> 01:03:40,360
Adam Curry: you see Did you see
Jeff Bezos? He said, Oh, our

1099
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,000
problem is these, these
podcasters?

1100
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:45,700
John C Dvorak: No, no, you have
to get that clip. No,

1101
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:48,940
Adam Curry: no, it's not a clip.
That lack of credibility isn't

1102
01:03:48,940 --> 01:03:51,940
unique to the post. Our
brethren, newspapers have the

1103
01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:55,120
same issue, and it's a problem
not only for the media, but also

1104
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,960
for the nation. Many people are
turning to off the cuff

1105
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,240
John C Dvorak: podcasts. Off the
cuff. Work involved No, no

1106
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,600
Adam Curry: just sitting down,
just yapping inaccurate social

1107
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,860
media posts and other unverified
news sources which can quickly

1108
01:04:10,860 --> 01:04:14,160
spread misinformation and deepen
division. It's our fault off the

1109
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,840
cuff, you You

1110
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,000
John C Dvorak: know what's
interesting about that quote and

1111
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,280
others, especially the stuff you
see on Mastodon, and I'll point

1112
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:27,200
the finger at Dan Gilmore,
who's, who's, who's one of these

1113
01:04:27,260 --> 01:04:30,860
report, report X, reporter, by
what he's doing now. But he was

1114
01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:33,380
a, he was a professor at
University of Arizona for

1115
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:40,160
Arizona State, one of the two
Arizona state for a while

1116
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,260
teaching, oh, that we had to be
activists as journalists. We

1117
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:47,920
shouldn't be balancing anything
but he but, but then they're

1118
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,560
condemning, like Twitter, and
they're condemning and they're

1119
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,100
condemning podcasting, condemn,
condemn. Meanwhile, Gilmore is

1120
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:59,440
the guy who wrote a book about
citizen journalism, which is

1121
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:06,180
exactly. What this is, sources
go direct citizen journalism is

1122
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Twitter, yeah, but okay, it's
all bad now, now that it's

1123
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,480
turning on him. Okay, this is
NPR and garbage too, in this

1124
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,460
then I get one, then I have the
Cuban clip, and

1125
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:16,140
Unknown: I'm done. I'm excited.
Okay,

1126
01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:18,960
well, despite trying to draw
attention to Biden's comments,

1127
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,820
Trump is still fielding a lot of
criticism from that New York

1128
01:05:22,820 --> 01:05:23,300
rally. Right,

1129
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,960
right? Very much. The Trump
campaign has distanced itself

1130
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,260
from that one specific joke
about Puerto Rico, but they

1131
01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:33,260
haven't really answered for the
other vulgar statements made at

1132
01:05:33,260 --> 01:05:36,320
that rally, and there were a lot
of those statements about Kamala

1133
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,600
Harris, about women, about
Latinos as a whole, plus Tucker

1134
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,200
Carlson told the crowd that
leaders, political leaders, are

1135
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,280
trying to replace American
voters, which is a reference to

1136
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,760
the racist great replacement
theory. At any rate, Trump is

1137
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,580
doing this very broad cleanup.
He has called the New York rally

1138
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,880
a love fest. And at a rally in
Pennsylvania last night, he

1139
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,140
said, quote, Nobody loves our
Latino community and our Puerto

1140
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:04,080
Rican community more than I do,
Wow,

1141
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,340
Adam Curry: he's so bad.

1142
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:12,780
John C Dvorak: Wow. So I caught
so I I caught this on this

1143
01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:19,500
morning's uh, outnumbered a fox
show where Kaylee McEnany

1144
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:26,480
played, and it starts off with
Mark Cuban on the view, and he's

1145
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,860
not actually on the view. He's
calling in, yeah, so, so it's

1146
01:06:30,860 --> 01:06:33,560
like a remote, and I don't
understand why he couldn't do

1147
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,080
the show and they wouldn't bring
him in, or they just had to have

1148
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,740
him on. I don't know what the
deal is with this is a zoom call

1149
01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:46,060
on the view and Mark Cuban
condemning Trump women, and then

1150
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:50,980
this is followed immediately by
Kaylee just being personally

1151
01:06:50,980 --> 01:06:53,680
offended and going nuts. And
here we go,

1152
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,320
Unknown: Trump. You never see
him around strong, intelligent

1153
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,300
women ever. It's just that
simple, they're intimidating to

1154
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:04,020
him. He doesn't like to be
challenged by them.

1155
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,160
Mark Cuban, okay, I had to take
a breath before this, because

1156
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:13,560
this is so profoundly offensive.
I worked for Donald Trump. I

1157
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,800
consider myself a strong woman.
I consider those around me

1158
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:21,560
strong women. Kellyanne, Conway,
Brooke Rollins, Ivanka Trump,

1159
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,400
Hope Hicks, Sarah Sanders,
that's before we get to the

1160
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,880
women that Donald Trump elevated
to very high levels, like Nikki

1161
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,940
Haley, who still supports him,
like Amy Coney Barrett, who he

1162
01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:34,460
put on the Supreme Court, or the
women currently around him.

1163
01:07:34,460 --> 01:07:37,880
Susie Wiles comes to mind.
Caroline Levitt. That is so

1164
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,420
offensive, and you know why?
Because it's not just about the

1165
01:07:40,420 --> 01:07:42,580
women who worked for him, he
said, the women around Donald

1166
01:07:42,580 --> 01:07:45,400
Trump. This comes right after
the Joe Biden garbage comment,

1167
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,920
okay, the women around Donald
Trump. What about the women who

1168
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,400
vote for Donald Trump? Are they
weak? Are they dumb? Did Mark

1169
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,940
Cuban just insult any woman who
supports Donald Trump? Because

1170
01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:57,340
it's a little, very small step
from that. And this is an

1171
01:07:57,340 --> 01:08:01,380
official Biden excuse me, Harris
campaign surrogate, Mark Cuban.

1172
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,800
That is misogynistic, in my
view. Get out of here. Mark

1173
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,040
Cuban, Kamala Harris, he's your
surrogate. I want to hear from

1174
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,980
you. Do you agree the women are
weak and ineffective? Whatever

1175
01:08:10,980 --> 01:08:13,860
he said, Get out of here. And I
can't wait to hear from you.

1176
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:14,220
Kamala.

1177
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:19,320
Adam Curry: Woman scorned like
Mark Cuban. Who cares about Mark

1178
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:19,740
Cuban?

1179
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:23,240
John C Dvorak: Dick is a nud.
Nick can care

1180
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,620
Adam Curry: about I don't
really. I don't care about

1181
01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:28,640
anybody but John C Dvorak, you
know what you say matters.

1182
01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:31,160
Nothing else. These people say,
Man, I like to listen to my own

1183
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:31,880
billionaires,

1184
01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:35,060
John C Dvorak: but you're not
getting one here.

1185
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,680
Adam Curry: I need to play just
a couple things about because

1186
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,640
they're now, obviously we're
getting close to the election. I

1187
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,660
early voted. We have, we do not
have dominion voting machines

1188
01:08:46,660 --> 01:08:51,340
here. We do not have, yes,
there's a big explanation for

1189
01:08:51,340 --> 01:08:53,440
how they work and what they do
and what they don't. And no

1190
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:58,240
pictures. No pictures. Is your
phone off? Not allowed? Is that

1191
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,740
right? Yeah, no pictures. I said

1192
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,360
John C Dvorak: before you before
you discuss that any further,

1193
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,900
can I play this little short
clip from PBS on paper ballots?

1194
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:08,939
Unknown: Yes, here we go.

1195
01:09:08,939 --> 01:09:11,579
The race for president ran
through the Tar Heel State

1196
01:09:11,579 --> 01:09:12,059
today,

1197
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,240
Vice President Kamala Harris and
former President Donald Trump

1198
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,900
both rallied in North Carolina,
one of the crucial swing states

1199
01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:22,700
that could secure a victory in
next week's election in Rocky

1200
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:25,940
Mount, North Carolina. Former
President Donald Trump urged

1201
01:09:25,940 --> 01:09:28,100
voters to send him back to the
White House.

1202
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,400
This election is a choice
between whether we'll have a

1203
01:09:32,180 --> 01:09:35,240
four more years. Think of this,
four more years of gross

1204
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,920
incompetence continuing

1205
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,300
to sow doubt about the security
of the election. I'm hearing

1206
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:43,300
all sorts of stories, we're not
going to have the result by

1207
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:47,260
Tuesday night. We spend all this
money on computers. If you go

1208
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:50,020
back to paper ballots and it's
watermarked, you know, paper is

1209
01:09:50,020 --> 01:09:51,880
now very sophisticated, believe
it or not.

1210
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:57,099
In fact, the vast majority, over
97% of votes cast in this

1211
01:09:57,099 --> 01:10:00,479
election will be recorded on
paper the head of. Official in

1212
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,239
charge of U S cyber security and
infrastructure, told the

1213
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:05,039
NewsHour recently, first

1214
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,100
got to remember election
infrastructure, the voting

1215
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:12,060
systems where Americans cast
their ballots not connected to

1216
01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:15,600
the internet so very difficult
for somebody to hack into those

1217
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:22,220
voting machines. Secondly, over
97% paper ballots that voters

1218
01:10:22,220 --> 01:10:25,460
can look at and verify
themselves. Yes, I

1219
01:10:25,460 --> 01:10:30,620
Adam Curry: should. This is a
lot. This is, I should clarify.

1220
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:35,720
It was a paper ballot. I filled
it in with a pen, but it then

1221
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:40,240
goes into the ballot scanner,
and that's where, and I don't

1222
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,860
know if anyone else has it. When
you put it in and it sucks it in

1223
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:50,560
and then I'm waiting for a
receipt, that's my that's that's

1224
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,100
your immediate feelings like,
oh, shouldn't I have a receipt

1225
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,800
this that shows that this is
what I voted for, because I

1226
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,960
don't know what this machine has
now registered.

1227
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly. So
that's not is that a paper

1228
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,160
ballot? You Does that count as a
paper ballot? A paper ballot, to

1229
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,340
me, is something you you fill
out, and then it goes into a

1230
01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:10,440
pile and somebody hand counts.
Well,

1231
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,080
Adam Curry: they they keep the
paper ballot. That's the point

1232
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:17,040
is that if there's Yeah, well
then go back like the paper when

1233
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:17,160
you

1234
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,920
John C Dvorak: use the Dominion
system, that's no paper coughs

1235
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,060
out a paper ballot when you're
done with the barcode on it that

1236
01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:24,620
you can't read. No, I

1237
01:11:24,620 --> 01:11:27,440
Adam Curry: know, I know, and I
don't this is, this

1238
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:30,500
John C Dvorak: is a bull crap
comment, yes, well, you're in

1239
01:11:30,500 --> 01:11:30,620
the

1240
01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:34,760
Adam Curry: part of the 3% it's
California and and there were,

1241
01:11:34,940 --> 01:11:38,420
there were some, some issues
with the Colorado voting

1242
01:11:38,420 --> 01:11:42,580
machines, which were not this is
that Colorado thinks she's

1243
01:11:42,580 --> 01:11:46,240
Secretary of State. She was the
the nut job with the Trump

1244
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,260
derangement syndrome. Do you
remember her like, forget what

1245
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:53,260
she was all what she had her
panties and a bunch about. But

1246
01:11:53,260 --> 01:11:56,140
now, now she's the calling for
her resignation for

1247
01:11:56,140 --> 01:11:59,800
Unknown: Terry of State under
fire tonight, her resignation

1248
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,420
from Colorado Republicans. It
comes after partial passwords

1249
01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:07,080
for voting systems were posted
in a spreadsheet that anyone

1250
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,540
could download from the
Secretary of State's website. We

1251
01:12:09,540 --> 01:12:09,780
talked

1252
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:11,940
Adam Curry: to Secretary of
State Griswold this afternoon,

1253
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:15,840
who says only partial passwords
were exposed, partial passwords

1254
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,700
so she says it didn't pose and

1255
01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:20,960
John C Dvorak: partial password,
you get it back, it says P, A,

1256
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,640
S, S, W, blank.

1257
01:12:22,820 --> 01:12:26,660
Adam Curry: I mean, I understand
what's going on, and I know that

1258
01:12:26,660 --> 01:12:29,720
it has it said, like a two
factor authentication with a

1259
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,680
second password, which is
probably a general password, but

1260
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,200
they're calling it partial
passwords, because that makes me

1261
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,500
feel good. Only partial
passwords were exposed. So she

1262
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:42,400
says it didn't pose an immediate
security threat to Colorado

1263
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:42,820
election.

1264
01:12:42,940 --> 01:12:45,700
Unknown: Colorado's elections
have layers of security layers,

1265
01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:49,960
so you actually need two
passwords and physical access to

1266
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,460
voting equipment to use those to
use the passwords for them to be

1267
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,440
worth anything. A civil servant
who hid the tabs on that

1268
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:02,400
spreadsheet is no longer with
the department is dead.

1269
01:13:03,180 --> 01:13:06,000
Secretary gristle says the
passwords were online for months

1270
01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:09,960
before her office was notified
last Thursday, demanding

1271
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,100
she resigned. State Minority
Leader rose peg Lici released

1272
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:16,980
these statements on behalf of
Colorado House Republicans,

1273
01:13:16,980 --> 01:13:20,780
saying, quote, while I have the
utmost trust in the integrity of

1274
01:13:20,780 --> 01:13:24,140
our county clerks who actually
oversee the counting of votes. I

1275
01:13:24,140 --> 01:13:26,840
have no trust that Secretary
Griswold is capable of leading

1276
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,320
our election system. Enough of
her incompetence, it's time for

1277
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,760
her to resign. Get

1278
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,380
Adam Curry: rid of her. She
needs to go. Needs to go, so

1279
01:13:36,380 --> 01:13:41,320
that the couple other issues we
have a little more information

1280
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,780
about the ballot box that was
lit on

1281
01:13:43,780 --> 01:13:46,540
Unknown: fire, we want to turn
now to the FBI investigation

1282
01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:50,860
into a suspected arson attack on
ballot drop boxes, one in Oregon

1283
01:13:50,860 --> 01:13:53,980
and one in Washington State. A
law enforcement source confirms

1284
01:13:53,980 --> 01:13:57,400
the incendiary devices used in
the sabotage were marked with

1285
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:02,260
the words free. Gaza tonight,
police may strike again. CBS

1286
01:14:02,260 --> 01:14:04,980
Nicole scan gate. Developments.
All right, what have you learned

1287
01:14:04,980 --> 01:14:06,300
from your reporting? Isn't

1288
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:10,500
Adam Curry: that interesting? So
it was some some anarchist,

1289
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,980
leftist, socialist nut job who
did this. And we're not

1290
01:14:13,980 --> 01:14:14,880
outraged, not

1291
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,020
Unknown: nor Investigators are
still searching for a motive in

1292
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:22,880
these ballot box fires. But a
law enforcement source tells CBS

1293
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,360
News it's still unclear whether
the suspect here is a pro

1294
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,020
Palestinian sympathizer or just
trying to stoke controversy.

1295
01:14:30,260 --> 01:14:34,460
This is what's left of hundreds
of burnt ballots inside a drop

1296
01:14:34,460 --> 01:14:38,300
box in Clark County, Washington.
An election official said an

1297
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:42,100
unknown number of other ballots
were destroyed. The FBI has

1298
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:45,940
taken both incendiary devices to
their laboratory in Huntsville,

1299
01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:50,080
Alabama for forensic analysis,
and are still searching for a

1300
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:54,460
male suspect who is driving this
dark colored Volvo sedan,

1301
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,320
Adam Curry: Volvo.

1302
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,260
Unknown: This should be easy.
You.

1303
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,720
Anyway,

1304
01:15:03,420 --> 01:15:05,040
John C Dvorak: those damn Volvo
guys,

1305
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:11,340
Adam Curry: I'm telling him and
but you know, the the rhetoric

1306
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:15,480
is being cranked up and, well,
we're back to old hijinks.

1307
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:19,200
People are stealing lawn signs.
It's an outrage, but, oh,

1308
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:22,580
there's some tips from Reuters
if someone's trying to steal

1309
01:15:22,580 --> 01:15:25,280
your Kamala Harris lawn sign.
The fight for

1310
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,000
Unknown: votes is raging, not
just in battleground states, but

1311
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,140
also across the front lawns of
America. No many voters have

1312
01:15:33,140 --> 01:15:37,460
recently reported their campaign
lawn signs being stolen, and

1313
01:15:37,460 --> 01:15:39,620
they're going to great lengths
to fight back.

1314
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:42,640
Adam Curry: Isn't this something
that's been done for 100 years,

1315
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,720
people stealing lawn signs,
putting other lawn signs in.

1316
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,620
Isn't this? I mean, have we not
heard this for five cycles that

1317
01:15:50,620 --> 01:15:54,340
this happens? I'm asking you.
It's not.

1318
01:15:54,940 --> 01:15:58,480
John C Dvorak: I don't know when
lawn signs even began. I don't

1319
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:00,180
pay any attention to them, but,

1320
01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:02,400
Adam Curry: but this, this?
Yeah,

1321
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,820
John C Dvorak: I would assume
that people were defacing,

1322
01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:11,460
removing, replacing lawn signs
since days.

1323
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:15,420
Adam Curry: Didn't the Trump
guy. I'm recalling that he

1324
01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:17,340
electrified his lawn sign. Well,

1325
01:16:17,340 --> 01:16:19,320
John C Dvorak: there's a guy who
electrified. My favorite one,

1326
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,840
though, was somebody had placed
a there's a bunch of YouTube and

1327
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:28,520
tick tock videos of this, these
gags, somebody had put a bunch

1328
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,920
of like, bungee spikes over on a
lawn. Sign wasn't on lawn, but

1329
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,280
it's on the side of the road, so
you could easily and some guy

1330
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,860
did drive over and knock the
sign over with your car and then

1331
01:16:41,860 --> 01:16:44,680
get back on the road easily
enough, but it was you get a

1332
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,940
flat tire doing it

1333
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,180
Unknown: all right, so listen to
this. I think it's one of those

1334
01:16:49,180 --> 01:16:52,960
election year irritants, like
those spam fundraising text

1335
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,620
messages you get, or the attack
ads you see on TV all the time.

1336
01:16:56,860 --> 01:17:01,020
The people I've talked to said,
not only is it theft, you're

1337
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:03,600
stealing something from
somebody, but also you're

1338
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,960
suppressing their free speech.
And to certain people, it can

1339
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,880
feel a bit like voter
intimidation.

1340
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,120
How are these frustrated folks
fighting back? Here we go. The

1341
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,440
most ingenious

1342
01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:17,220
way to prevent this from
happening, or to at least catch

1343
01:17:17,220 --> 01:17:20,720
the thief, is the use of Apple
air tags, as opposed to two

1344
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,720
people who did that, they had
their signs taken, then they put

1345
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,420
one of those little tracking
devices on there, and when their

1346
01:17:26,420 --> 01:17:29,000
sign got stolen, both of them
said, well, they could see it

1347
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,960
travel around in a car as the
car went to a house. And so then

1348
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,540
they can call the police, and
the police can show up and say,

1349
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,780
did you take this? Is this not
yours? Whereas otherwise it can

1350
01:17:38,780 --> 01:17:42,100
be very difficult to prosecute.
Police are not going to spend a

1351
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:45,820
lot of time on something like
this when a theft is an item

1352
01:17:45,820 --> 01:17:49,540
that typically costs 20 bucks or
so. And then on top of that,

1353
01:17:49,540 --> 01:17:52,660
there's the more low tech
solutions. People say a common

1354
01:17:52,660 --> 01:17:55,540
way to protect your signs is to
smear them with Vaseline and

1355
01:17:55,540 --> 01:17:59,080
glitter. That way, the thief
touches the sign, they get

1356
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,520
glitter and goop all over their
hands. And evidently it's very

1357
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,980
hard to get glitter off your
hands. Oh, my,

1358
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,360
Adam Curry: oh my,

1359
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,660
John C Dvorak: c5 in a remote
control.

1360
01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:11,640
Adam Curry: C4 I don't know what
c5 No,

1361
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,160
John C Dvorak: I don't you know.
Why do I keep I always say c5 I

1362
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,740
think it has something to do
with that lucky jet, maybe.

1363
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,140
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. See for and
so while this is going on,

1364
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,740
John C Dvorak: SEM, tech, SEM,
Texas, okay, well, all

1365
01:18:24,740 --> 01:18:28,820
Adam Curry: this is going on,
Rachel Maddow is still on MSNBC,

1366
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,780
and she rolls out creaky
Victoria Newland,

1367
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:36,380
Unknown: as I saw this, Russia,
Russia

1368
01:18:36,380 --> 01:18:38,300
Adam Curry: phobe emeritus. Oh,

1369
01:18:38,420 --> 01:18:41,380
John C Dvorak: she's the worst
two of them together. I'm

1370
01:18:41,380 --> 01:18:43,960
surprised the station didn't
explode. To

1371
01:18:44,260 --> 01:18:47,560
Adam Curry: just let us know
that Vladimir Putin is doing it

1372
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,460
again, third

1373
01:18:48,460 --> 01:18:50,920
Unknown: election in a row in
which Russia has tried to

1374
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,820
interfere, to try to get Trump
into the White House. How do you

1375
01:18:54,820 --> 01:18:59,080
assess the magnitude and that
the type of interference they're

1376
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,520
attempting this year compared to
what they've done in his

1377
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,960
previous two elections.

1378
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,280
Well, as you said earlier,
Rachel, he's he's at it again.

1379
01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:12,420
This time. He's not even trying
to hide his his hand, and he has

1380
01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:16,380
far more sophisticated tools.
You know, his AI is better so he

1381
01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:17,820
can make these fake videos.

1382
01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:21,020
Adam Curry: His AI is so much
better now. So again, make these

1383
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,100
fake videos.

1384
01:19:22,340 --> 01:19:26,180
Unknown: She has done things
like spend ten million trying to

1385
01:19:26,180 --> 01:19:29,300
buy American influencers, pool
boy,

1386
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:30,080
Adam Curry: pool boy,

1387
01:19:33,260 --> 01:19:35,540
Unknown: and get them. This is
great.

1388
01:19:36,020 --> 01:19:38,420
Adam Curry: Oh, she should have
just said she got the pool boy

1389
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,280
and Dave Rubin, and they really
changed people's minds

1390
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,400
Unknown: is his lines and not
even know it's happening. But

1391
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,060
he's also got a brand new very,
very powerful tool, which is

1392
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:54,280
Elon Musk and you know, in
social media companies worked

1393
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,420
hard with the US government to
try to do content moderation, to

1394
01:19:58,420 --> 01:20:03,000
try to catch this. Says it was
happening, but this time, we

1395
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,840
have Elon Musk talking directly
to the Kremlin and ensuring that

1396
01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:10,260
every time the Russians put out
something like this, it gets 5

1397
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:13,020
million views on X before
anybody can catch it.

1398
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:18,600
Adam Curry: It is just sad to
see how low she has sunk. She's

1399
01:20:18,660 --> 01:20:22,160
running with every nonsense
thing that's been out is she

1400
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,800
just reading Twitter and going,
Yeah, I'll talk about this on

1401
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:30,080
Rachel's show. I mean, what this
is not this is not true. I mean,

1402
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,740
oh, okay, he has better AI for
all what videos, what videos

1403
01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:38,300
has, has Putin done? And what
impact did this? Did the pool

1404
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:42,940
boy and Dave Rubin have? What
impact? Oh, yes, he's back at it

1405
01:20:42,940 --> 01:20:47,440
again, the evil Putin. This is
just pathetic, really. It really

1406
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:50,920
is pathetic. I don't know what
to make of it.

1407
01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:54,580
John C Dvorak: Well, there is
musk. Is the NPR is going after

1408
01:20:54,580 --> 01:21:00,280
Musk too. I guess Musk has put
out some fake ads that look like

1409
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:05,280
camel ads that promote,
basically promote her actual

1410
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:10,080
ideas. It's not like they're
bullshit, but you can play, I

1411
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:10,680
have a clip of

1412
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,660
Adam Curry: it, yeah. What do
you have? What do you have? Oh,

1413
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:17,040
fake Musk ads, yeah. Fake
digital ad campaign backed by

1414
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:24,440
billionaire Elon Musk is pushing
message. Elon. From now on the

1415
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:28,640
show, we'll call him Elan. I
like that. This guy is reading

1416
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,480
the news on NPR and is and
somehow believes that his name

1417
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:36,260
is Elon. What is that? What is
the how

1418
01:21:36,260 --> 01:21:39,380
John C Dvorak: do you get? How
do you get to that point, after

1419
01:21:39,380 --> 01:21:45,760
all these years of listening
about Elon to say, Elon, it just

1420
01:21:45,820 --> 01:21:47,380
befuddles me.

1421
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,160
Adam Curry: Maybe he was doing
the lawn sign story and he's

1422
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:55,600
still stuck in it. Elon sign.
Elon. Elon Oh, Elon digital ad

1423
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,620
campaign backed by billionaire
Elon Musk, is pushing messages

1424
01:21:59,620 --> 01:22:02,820
that are not tended to look like
they're from Vice President

1425
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:03,660
Harris. Bobby

1426
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:06,300
Unknown: Allen explains the ads
make false claims about Harris.

1427
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,060
A series of political ads
appearing on Facebook falsely

1428
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:11,940
say Kamala Harris wants to
institute a mandatory gun

1429
01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:14,940
buyback program and make it
easier for undocumented

1430
01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:17,820
immigrants to receive a driver's
license. They are from a group

1431
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:19,680
called Building America's
future. You

1432
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,980
Adam Curry: want me stop the
clip so you can complain about

1433
01:22:21,980 --> 01:22:22,160
that.

1434
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,280
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying,
Okay, I'm sorry. You're right.

1435
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,260
But I just want to mention that
what Elan has produced here is

1436
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:34,460
what she's actually is part of
her policy from the 2019, 2020,

1437
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:39,020
era. Yes, there's no evidence
that she's changed it. Oh, Elon,

1438
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:39,620
series of

1439
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,640
Unknown: political ads appearing
on Facebook falsely say Kamala

1440
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,940
Harris wants to institute a
mandatory gun buyback program

1441
01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:48,520
and make it easier for
undocumented immigrants to

1442
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,520
receive a driver's license. They
are from a group called Building

1443
01:22:51,580 --> 01:22:55,420
America's future, a pro Trump
outfit funded by Elon Musk, but

1444
01:22:55,420 --> 01:22:58,780
they look like they're from the
Harris campaign. Musk has spent

1445
01:22:58,780 --> 01:23:01,860
more than $100 million
bankrolling a Trump campaign

1446
01:23:01,860 --> 01:23:05,340
field operation. He appears at
Trump rallies, and he's expected

1447
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:07,740
to have a role in the White
House if Trump is elected. The

1448
01:23:07,740 --> 01:23:10,740
billionaire has also turned his
social media platform x into a

1449
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:14,220
powerful pro Trump machine.
Powerful he has been amplifying

1450
01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:17,160
misleading information about the
integrity of the US voting

1451
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,660
system. The Washington Post
recently called musk, a human

1452
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,040
October surprise.

1453
01:23:24,620 --> 01:23:28,040
Adam Curry: Well, please.
Meanwhile, the actual ads from

1454
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:31,460
from the Democrats are
interesting. You've seen this

1455
01:23:31,460 --> 01:23:35,360
one, the the guy who's watching
porn on his phone and jerking

1456
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:36,500
off in his bedroom.

1457
01:23:36,860 --> 01:23:39,080
John C Dvorak: I have not seen
I've heard about that one. The

1458
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,100
one I've seen, I've seen the one
where the guys wink at the gay

1459
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:45,100
guys wink at each other and they
vote for Harris, and there's a

1460
01:23:45,460 --> 01:23:48,820
and, or the two lesbians wink at
each other and tell their

1461
01:23:48,820 --> 01:23:50,140
husbands that they're

1462
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,560
Adam Curry: How do you know the
lesbians? They're not lesbians.

1463
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:53,680
You

1464
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,840
John C Dvorak: could tell by the
way they're looking at it,

1465
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,660
lesbians. No,

1466
01:23:58,660 --> 01:24:02,160
Adam Curry: that ad is about
about you don't have to vote,

1467
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,540
who your husband tells you to

1468
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,760
John C Dvorak: vote. I know what
the ad supposed to be about, but

1469
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,140
what I'm seeing when I look at
lesbian you have gaydar. Now,

1470
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,140
all of a sudden, I have Gator
always I'm in the Bay Area, you

1471
01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:15,720
have to have gaydar you
otherwise you can get hurt.

1472
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,080
Adam Curry: All right, so the
guy's in his bedroom jerking

1473
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,440
off.

1474
01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:30,740
Unknown: Sorry, you can't do
that.

1475
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,840
John C Dvorak: What the hell,
man, how'd you get in here? I'm

1476
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,680
your Republican congressman. Now
that we're in charge, we're

1477
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,360
banning born nationwide.

1478
01:24:39,020 --> 01:24:41,000
Unknown: Can't tell me what to
do.

1479
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,140
John C Dvorak: I won the last
election, so it's my decision.

1480
01:24:44,620 --> 01:24:47,440
I'm just gonna watch and make
sure you don't finish

1481
01:24:47,860 --> 01:24:49,840
Unknown: illegally. Yeah,

1482
01:24:50,740 --> 01:24:55,720
John C Dvorak: wow. That sounds
like one of the that sounds like

1483
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,300
a Roger Stone Gambit there.

1484
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,340
Adam Curry: Well, but it's not.
I mean. Project 2020 it

1485
01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:04,980
John C Dvorak: would put, what,
what more I would put that ad

1486
01:25:04,980 --> 01:25:05,400
out,

1487
01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:09,180
Unknown: yeah, some, some pack.
Well, there,

1488
01:25:09,540 --> 01:25:12,240
John C Dvorak: there's another
word, the porn pack. There's

1489
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:12,900
Adam Curry: a porn pack.

1490
01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:13,980
John C Dvorak: The porn pack,

1491
01:25:13,980 --> 01:25:16,560
Adam Curry: yeah, there is a
porn pack out there who are very

1492
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,920
worried that Trump will
implement, uh, Project 2025,

1493
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:26,960
vision of making porn illegal,
which I'm pretty sure what's the

1494
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,560
guy's name, Larry Flint did a
very good and in a way,

1495
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,160
admirable job of proving that
that will not happen.

1496
01:25:35,420 --> 01:25:39,260
Unknown: It's free speech,
whatever you want. I mean, in

1497
01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:39,740
general,

1498
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,800
Adam Curry: he was the porn
king, and he he fought it his

1499
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,060
whole his whole life.

1500
01:25:47,140 --> 01:25:49,660
John C Dvorak: Well, I have not
seen that particular ad. It's

1501
01:25:49,660 --> 01:25:54,400
pretty bad. Is really bad?
Pretty bad. Well, he's a

1502
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:59,380
Democrat, jerking off. What else
is new? So you

1503
01:25:59,380 --> 01:26:03,240
Adam Curry: want to hear one of
the emails that's going around

1504
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,880
that family members are sending
to each other about what's going

1505
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,260
to happen during this election.

1506
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,880
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is now,
are we gonna we returning to the

1507
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,360
nuttiness of the right? Well,
yeah, but yes, I

1508
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,060
Adam Curry: think we should,
which is what I yeah, I love

1509
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:20,900
this stuff. Yeah, so, and this
is one of our

1510
01:26:20,900 --> 01:26:23,120
John C Dvorak: producers line
where they're gonna shut down

1511
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,100
the grid. Oh, man.

1512
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:30,680
Adam Curry: I mean, so this is
from someone's aunt, and she

1513
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,980
sent it to the whole family,
although not to, she didn't send

1514
01:26:33,980 --> 01:26:38,540
it to she even mentions it here.
I forget I took some of this out

1515
01:26:38,780 --> 01:26:41,920
because, you know, he said never
to email me again, so he's not

1516
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,600
on the email list, email list,
so there's always an October

1517
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,000
surprise during election years,
and we are running out of time.

1518
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,000
Below is the expected schedule
of events, although order may

1519
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,500
not be 100% print this now while
you're thinking about it, you

1520
01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:59,500
won't have access once things
begin, and you will wish you had

1521
01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:04,860
it for basic knowledge to lessen
the trauma we will all feel once

1522
01:27:04,860 --> 01:27:08,760
things start, everything will
move along quickly. Any wars,

1523
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,000
alien invasion, pandemic or
plague you hear on the news is

1524
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,920
all a lie. Try to stay positive
and calm as possible. Emotional

1525
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,900
tension will be beyond anything
imaginable, as Bette Davis once

1526
01:27:20,900 --> 01:27:23,300
said in a movie, fasten your
seat belt. Is going to be a

1527
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:29,540
bumpy ride. The countdown to
Release the Kraken is underway.

1528
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,000
John C Dvorak: Don't think we're
back on the Kraken. Yeah.

1529
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,100
Adam Curry: Didn't think they
would play it out this far. But

1530
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:37,820
here we are. Oh yeah, Lee and
Megan still not copied per Lee's

1531
01:27:37,820 --> 01:27:40,900
instructions from each and every
email him again, leaving it to

1532
01:27:40,900 --> 01:27:45,940
his family to communicate or not
anticipated event schedule. And

1533
01:27:45,940 --> 01:27:50,860
this is, this is a family email,
seven messages before shutdown,

1534
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,100
following instructions for
having supplies and returning

1535
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,220
home. Of traveling you need to
prep with food, water, toilet

1536
01:27:57,220 --> 01:27:59,620
paper and other supplies. Have
gas for generators, full tank of

1537
01:27:59,620 --> 01:28:01,900
gas in each vehicle you own, in
case you need extra gas for

1538
01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:05,100
generators, if you have any, or
for some other use. Do you have

1539
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:08,760
a siphon wood for wood stoves
and fireplaces? Solar

1540
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,860
generators? Are they charged?
Might lose items in

1541
01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:13,800
refrigerators or have other food
options fill bathtubs with water

1542
01:28:13,860 --> 01:28:16,740
when the messages start coming
in, rather than when power goes

1543
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:19,380
out, and having buckets for
pouring into toilets to use for

1544
01:28:19,380 --> 01:28:26,300
personal hygiene, spit baths.
Oh, my God, once martial law is

1545
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:31,520
in place, wow, any military
scene are not going to be messed

1546
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,040
with or approached to ask what's
going on. There will be a mix of

1547
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,100
international military, and
it'll be a totally different

1548
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:40,360
caliber. So do as you are told.
They won't be playing nice and

1549
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,460
will only be here to keep the
peace. Make sure people have

1550
01:28:42,460 --> 01:28:48,100
food and necessities if they
didn't prepare, help if there's

1551
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:51,460
a health issue, and to cart
people off to FEMA camps who

1552
01:28:51,460 --> 01:28:53,800
need to be picked up because
they participated in crimes

1553
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,320
against humanity or treason. Do
not intervene in anything

1554
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,040
they're doing or Off you go to
the FEMA camps. The FEMA camps

1555
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,180
will be a rough experience, and
will appear people are going to

1556
01:29:03,180 --> 01:29:03,900
be killed.

1557
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,580
John C Dvorak: Man, three
people. Is this just like a

1558
01:29:08,580 --> 01:29:09,780
comedy act?

1559
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,860
Adam Curry: Three Days of
Darkness, no power, no internet.

1560
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,520
We'll be on our own with only
military police about at some

1561
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,180
point, there may be a fake
nuclear explosion that will seem

1562
01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:26,900
real and be very scary. I 10 to
18 days, okay? Disclosure, 10 to

1563
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:31,160
18 days of lockdown. After the
three days of darkness, stay

1564
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,440
where you are, follow
instructions. Riot and looting

1565
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:37,040
are expected in some areas of
the country. Not much different

1566
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,800
than the Summer of Love. The
news said was mostly peaceful.

1567
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,460
Don't get involved. Disorder
will be wrapped up quickly.

1568
01:29:42,460 --> 01:29:45,400
Remain calm. There will be no
street lights limited. Power

1569
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,920
turned on in our homes. Water
will be on again, as they

1570
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,260
understand it, but we'll only
have a few plugs working. Oh,

1571
01:29:50,260 --> 01:29:51,820
Mike, I can't even read all of
this.

1572
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,060
John C Dvorak: How do you get a
few plugs working? Here's my

1573
01:29:55,060 --> 01:29:55,660
best

1574
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,240
Unknown: satanic sites. I.

1575
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,280
Adam Curry: Mind altering or
deep underground tunnels that

1576
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,040
were created to do horrific
things to adults and especially

1577
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,520
children. These are iconic sites
to us around the world, but

1578
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,520
during the disclosure that's
coming, John, the disclosure,

1579
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,520
you will understand why they
were destroyed, and you will be

1580
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,580
happy. Some of these have
already been taken care of, and

1581
01:30:17,580 --> 01:30:20,720
there are others, but these are
the most iconic. Evacuations

1582
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,960
have already been done or will
be during the air raids, and no

1583
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,080
one will die during the
destruction. So these are the

1584
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:33,140
following iconic buildings that
are connected to underground

1585
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:37,880
tunnels for the demonic forces
that will be destroyed, the

1586
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:42,400
White House, the fake White
House in California, house, the

1587
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,360
Vatican, the Ark of Baal.
Augusta, Germany, Castle,

1588
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,740
John C Dvorak: the Ark of ball,
I

1589
01:30:47,740 --> 01:30:51,280
Adam Curry: don't know, the
Biltmore Hotel in coral. Gables,

1590
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,460
Florida, Buckingham Palace. CERN
in Switzerland, oh, it says that

1591
01:30:54,460 --> 01:31:01,080
one's already done. CIA's
Bohemian Grove, Comet pizza in

1592
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,340
Hollywood, Denver International
Airport, Epstein Island dome,

1593
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:09,360
the Georgia Guidestones already
taken care of. The Hoover Dam,

1594
01:31:09,420 --> 01:31:13,500
the louver in France, London
bank one and two, the London

1595
01:31:13,500 --> 01:31:17,760
Bridge, the northern castle, the
Notre Dame, cathedral of France,

1596
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,980
already done. Wow. I didn't know
that London

1597
01:31:19,980 --> 01:31:22,040
John C Dvorak: Bridge is in
Arizona.

1598
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:27,140
Adam Curry: The original one is,
yes, yeah, the Opera House in

1599
01:31:27,140 --> 01:31:30,020
Sydney, Australia is going to be
gone. The Pentagon, the Playboy

1600
01:31:30,020 --> 01:31:34,160
Mansion, the Statue of Liberty,
Stonehenge, the Tesla building,

1601
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,860
the Getty Museum, the Queen's
hunting lodge,

1602
01:31:36,980 --> 01:31:39,320
John C Dvorak: the US being
silly,

1603
01:31:39,380 --> 01:31:42,280
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, not
listed, but also taken care of

1604
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,220
with the recent hurricanes, with
the Disney deep underground

1605
01:31:45,220 --> 01:31:48,820
tunnels and the North Carolina
mountain flooding for the secret

1606
01:31:48,820 --> 01:31:52,120
lithium mining that was going to
be used for nefarious purposes.

1607
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,720
So I could read on and on. I'll
put some in the show notes.

1608
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,720
John C Dvorak: Oh, you got to
send me this note. Yes, it's

1609
01:31:58,780 --> 01:32:01,620
Adam Curry: I'll send you the
it's an actual email forward

1610
01:32:01,620 --> 01:32:05,100
with the headers and everything.
I'll send that to you. But this,

1611
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:10,080
this is, and I think people
like, I hate to say it, but Mike

1612
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,820
Benz and Dan Bongino, they're
riling people up with this,

1613
01:32:15,420 --> 01:32:16,920
especially Bongino,

1614
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:18,840
Unknown: oh yeah, oh

1615
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,140
Adam Curry: yeah, oh no. The
rioting is coming. It's gonna

1616
01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:25,580
happen. It's gonna be like, BLM
on steroids. You know, even if,

1617
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:29,600
even if the left wins, it's
just, it's like, it's crazy,

1618
01:32:31,580 --> 01:32:33,020
Unknown: it's kind of sad.

1619
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,400
John C Dvorak: Well, when you
start talking about the Sydney

1620
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,800
Opera House and the Statue of
Liberty, I know. And the rest of

1621
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,860
them build being some sort of
gateway to hell, yeah, I

1622
01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:45,940
Unknown: know. I know.

1623
01:32:45,940 --> 01:32:48,580
John C Dvorak: It doesn't really
make any sense whatsoever. And

1624
01:32:48,580 --> 01:32:51,160
the fact that you could get to
the point where you actually say

1625
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:56,440
these things, yeah, well, at
least this balances out with the

1626
01:32:56,440 --> 01:33:00,160
other side, so that you get that
nuttiness from both sides. But

1627
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,700
we do, like we do, really off
the deep

1628
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:05,400
Adam Curry: end, yeah, but, but
elements of this, I hear around

1629
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,000
here, elements of it. And, you
know, when it comes from, like a

1630
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:15,360
Bongino, or it comes from,
what's the name, Mike Benz or,

1631
01:33:15,420 --> 01:33:19,620
or it comes from now, Naomi
Wolf, or it comes from Laura

1632
01:33:19,620 --> 01:33:23,300
Logan. You know, these are the
people who were also correct

1633
01:33:23,300 --> 01:33:28,580
about certain things happening
with the pandemic and and with

1634
01:33:28,580 --> 01:33:33,740
vaccines and etc. So you could
understand the

1635
01:33:33,740 --> 01:33:37,280
John C Dvorak: stretch the
vaccine thing has an explanation

1636
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:41,620
for everything. I mean, this is
it makes logical sense, there's

1637
01:33:41,620 --> 01:33:47,560
logic involved with vaccine
skepticism, but especially the

1638
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,960
mRNA vaccine skepticism, there's
nothing, nothing illogic about

1639
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,400
any of the arguments for or
against it. But mostly there is

1640
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:02,100
some illogic to the arguments
for it. But this is nuts.

1641
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,180
Adam Curry: Since, since you
brought it up, we just talked

1642
01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:13,320
about it, there is an NHS
doctor, and he works for, like,

1643
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:18,000
you know, a proper National
Health System hospital. He's a

1644
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,900
cancer specialist, James royal,
and he just did a full

1645
01:34:23,900 --> 01:34:29,060
presentation about what he is
seeing with I think he called

1646
01:34:29,060 --> 01:34:34,340
post post COVID vaccination
patients. And I think I should

1647
01:34:34,340 --> 01:34:40,600
play it. And this is not to
freak anybody out, but it's not

1648
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:40,960
good.

1649
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,660
Unknown: Finally, I need to talk
about cancer, particularly

1650
01:34:43,660 --> 01:34:46,960
colorectal cancers. In addition
to the increase in all cause

1651
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,900
excess deaths in highly
vaccinated countries, since the

1652
01:34:49,900 --> 01:34:53,020
gene based injectable rollout,
there has been observed an

1653
01:34:53,020 --> 01:34:55,600
alarming and significant
increase in cancers. These

1654
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,360
cancers have been termed
colloquially, Turbo cancers.

1655
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,140
Obviously, this is not a
scientific. It turn but reflects

1656
01:35:01,140 --> 01:35:03,780
the different aggressive
biological nature that seems to

1657
01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:07,320
be being observed by the public
as well as clinicians. Despite

1658
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,140
recent articles claiming that
the sudden growth in cancers is

1659
01:35:10,140 --> 01:35:13,020
not new, such as the gas
lighting article in the Daily

1660
01:35:13,020 --> 01:35:16,860
Mail reporting on a baffling
increase in trend in data from

1661
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:21,080
1990 to 2019 there is a clear,
dramatic increase that occurred

1662
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:25,040
in 2021 shortly after the
rollout. A robust study recently

1663
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,440
published from Japan, now
redacted by the journal after

1664
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:30,380
significant pressure so cancer
related excess mortality in

1665
01:35:30,380 --> 01:35:33,740
vaccinated populations. Cancers
being observed are in all ages.

1666
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,500
It is my assertion, shared by
many experts, oncologists and

1667
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,020
clinical colleagues around the
world, that the cancers we're

1668
01:35:39,020 --> 01:35:41,980
seeing are extremely aggressive
and are are of a different

1669
01:35:41,980 --> 01:35:45,160
biology. One study showed this
dramatic increase, particularly

1670
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,960
in younger ages through 2021
5.6% increase. 2022 7.9%

1671
01:35:50,740 --> 01:35:53,080
increase. I've noticed
aggressive, widespread

1672
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,540
recurrences in previously
successfully treated bowel

1673
01:35:55,540 --> 01:35:58,960
cancer cases that I consider
cured. Many metastases in these

1674
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,100
cases are unusual or atypical.
Middle aged and elderly people

1675
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,280
are presenting with out of the
blue, aggressive stage four

1676
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,040
colorectal cancer who are
incurable and die within weeks

1677
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,220
or months. In many of these
cases, the entire liver appears

1678
01:36:11,220 --> 01:36:14,400
to be filled with large, round
tumor masses. It is horrific to

1679
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,940
see on a weekly basis in imbt.
In my experience, it is rare for

1680
01:36:17,940 --> 01:36:21,020
colorectal cancer to be as
aggressive in elderly, usually

1681
01:36:21,020 --> 01:36:23,900
sporadic cancers that are
diagnosed as still operable when

1682
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:26,660
they present elderly patients
rarely present with stage four

1683
01:36:26,660 --> 01:36:29,420
disease, and certainly not in
the way I've started seeing many

1684
01:36:29,420 --> 01:36:31,880
of my multidisciplinary team
colleagues, fellow surgeons,

1685
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,700
oncologists, pathologists,
radiologists and specialist

1686
01:36:34,700 --> 01:36:38,660
nurses. The safety signal from
both the MHRA and the VA ers

1687
01:36:38,660 --> 01:36:42,640
system in the United States is
unprecedented and undeniably

1688
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:43,660
obvious. Now

1689
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,020
Adam Curry: very dry, very
boring, but you can look at the

1690
01:36:47,020 --> 01:36:51,580
show notes, and his whole 30
minute presentation is really

1691
01:36:51,580 --> 01:36:54,580
mind blowing. It's not that we
haven't suspected this, but

1692
01:36:54,580 --> 01:36:58,000
here's a guy who's putting his
reputation on the line, and he

1693
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,380
has spoken to many other
doctors, and they applaud him,

1694
01:37:01,380 --> 01:37:03,660
but they're most of them are
scared. I've had the

1695
01:37:03,660 --> 01:37:07,260
Unknown: opportunity to give
into an international surgical

1696
01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:11,100
meeting in London in march 2023
at the end, I was congratulated

1697
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:13,380
on my perceived courage in
standing up and speaking about

1698
01:37:13,380 --> 01:37:16,320
these concerns. There was
general agreement in the room 30

1699
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,500
or more surgeons, many offered
acknowledgement and similar

1700
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:22,160
observations, but had been
unwilling to raise their

1701
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,520
concerns for fear of
repercussions. In fact, a rather

1702
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,900
alarmed eminent retired surgeon
present stated it was our duty

1703
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,840
to raise these concerns. In
conclusion, the data are clear

1704
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,080
that COVID 19 vaccines are
neither effective or safe. My

1705
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,020
own personal observations have
been increasingly backed up by

1706
01:37:39,020 --> 01:37:41,800
other data around the world and
research studies, as well as

1707
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,920
experts opinion in other
centers. I personally demand

1708
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,620
that these injections and any
promotion of them be stopped

1709
01:37:47,620 --> 01:37:49,660
with immediate effects, anyway.

1710
01:37:50,260 --> 01:37:52,480
John C Dvorak: So that was a
bunch of people demanding this.

1711
01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:55,540
It hasn't gone anywhere. And
he's specifically talking for

1712
01:37:55,540 --> 01:37:58,000
the people out there listening
to this who got a shot or two.

1713
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,960
He's talking about people with
multiple, you know, the I think

1714
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,880
it's up to nine shots now, and
they're recommend getting the

1715
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,380
latest and greatest. And

1716
01:38:07,380 --> 01:38:10,860
Adam Curry: they're recommending
two shots this season. Two more,

1717
01:38:11,940 --> 01:38:15,240
two more. CDC just came out. We
recommend you get two shots this

1718
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:15,660
season.

1719
01:38:17,940 --> 01:38:20,240
John C Dvorak: There's also, you
know, I don't have a clip, and I

1720
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,840
wish I could find something, and
I think I had saw something, and

1721
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,260
I couldn't recover it. It's hard
to say where they're saying,

1722
01:38:27,260 --> 01:38:29,480
Well, you know the thing,
they're going to combine the flu

1723
01:38:29,480 --> 01:38:34,160
shot and the COVID shot, yeah,
because the flu there's, there's

1724
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:36,740
no way nobody's getting the flu
anymore.

1725
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:43,000
Adam Curry: Gee, I wonder how
that works. Hmm, I'm gonna,

1726
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,980
before we take a break, remember
our overall thesis is, and I

1727
01:38:47,980 --> 01:38:51,220
think we've shown some more
possible evidence today, with

1728
01:38:51,220 --> 01:38:56,920
the Karine Abdul Jabbar, Jean
Pierre Van Dam, sabotaging the

1729
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,720
Harris campaign, with with the
garbage comet certainly

1730
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:06,060
sabotaging any kind of momentum
the Hitler rally had, and just

1731
01:39:06,060 --> 01:39:11,880
handed a beauty to Trump.
There's so many people who

1732
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,540
benefit from a Trump presidency,
and the biggest one, I think, is

1733
01:39:15,540 --> 01:39:21,800
this pivot to China, to China,
and when ship building, then

1734
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,820
ship building? Well also space.
Space is also a big one, and

1735
01:39:25,820 --> 01:39:28,220
this space would be good.
Lockheed Martin, people

1736
01:39:28,220 --> 01:39:29,420
John C Dvorak: will be too
upset.

1737
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,540
Unknown: It's China's latest
attempt at edging closer to its

1738
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:35,900
goal of becoming a space
superpower. Its senjo 19

1739
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,440
blasting off into the cosmos
Wednesday, and launch

1740
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:41,260
authorities have hailed a
triumph.

1741
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,740
The spacecraft solar panels are
extended and functioning

1742
01:39:44,740 --> 01:39:48,820
normally. I hereby announce the
Shenzhou 19 manned spacecraft

1743
01:39:48,820 --> 01:39:51,760
launch mission a complete
success. This will

1744
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:55,420
be the taikonal temporary home
for the next six months, and the

1745
01:39:55,420 --> 01:39:58,240
Tiangong space station. It's
here that the crew will carry

1746
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,380
out experiments intended to
help. China prepare for its most

1747
01:40:01,380 --> 01:40:04,680
difficult mission yet landing
astronauts on the moon by 2030

1748
01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:08,160
in Beijing's growing appetite
for high risk missions is

1749
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,520
increasingly making the United
States uncomfortable. In April,

1750
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,580
NASA's chief warned us lawmakers
that Beijing wants to stake

1751
01:40:14,580 --> 01:40:18,600
territorial claims, arguing its
space program is also a military

1752
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:22,460
one. Speaking on Monday, China's
Foreign Ministry spokesperson

1753
01:40:22,460 --> 01:40:23,900
seemed to deny such claims.

1754
01:40:24,140 --> 01:40:27,200
China stays committed to the
peaceful use of outer space and

1755
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,260
opposes an arms race in outer
space or weaponizing outer

1756
01:40:30,260 --> 01:40:33,740
space. China has no intention to
engage in a race with other

1757
01:40:33,740 --> 01:40:37,640
countries in space and doesn't
seek to gain an edge in space

1758
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:38,000
before

1759
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,720
getting astronauts to the moon.
Beijing is celebrating the

1760
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,540
milestones achieved in
Wednesday's launch among its

1761
01:40:43,540 --> 01:40:47,080
crew, the country's only female
space engineer. She's also one

1762
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:50,800
of the youngest taikonauts from
China to blast off into space.

1763
01:40:50,860 --> 01:40:51,340
Somebody

1764
01:40:51,340 --> 01:40:53,680
Adam Curry: better land on the
moon pretty quick. Otherwise

1765
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:59,200
it's gonna look like we never
went there. 2040, 2030, 2040,

1766
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,120
whatever. Impress me. Oh, look,
I compare they'll park it all

1767
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:12,300
right. But the most you know me,
the most damning evidence that

1768
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:19,080
the pivot to China is on was
General Milley, who will whore

1769
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:24,920
for anybody was speaking at the
American Bankers Association

1770
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,400
with most of the big CEOs in the
room. Now, if you want to, you

1771
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,520
know, if you want to talk about
money and how we're going to

1772
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,180
handle China, China, and how
we're going to finance the big,

1773
01:41:35,180 --> 01:41:39,020
beautiful ships and the
submarine bases and everything,

1774
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:43,060
you want General Milley to go
there, and he now he didn't have

1775
01:41:43,060 --> 01:41:46,060
his uniform on, which is a
little disappointing, but here's

1776
01:41:46,060 --> 01:41:48,160
what he had to say about China.

1777
01:41:48,220 --> 01:41:51,880
Unknown: Is the possibility, not
the probability, but the

1778
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,420
possibility of armed conflict
between two great powers, United

1779
01:41:55,420 --> 01:42:00,160
States and China. China has the
natural resources, the people,

1780
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,760
the population and, most
importantly, the money to

1781
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:06,120
challenge the United States on a
global scale. First time in

1782
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:10,440
Chinese history they have now,
44 years later, 45 years later,

1783
01:42:10,620 --> 01:42:13,560
developed the world class
military. Now they're not equal

1784
01:42:13,860 --> 01:42:18,960
yet. The United States military
is still the most powerful, most

1785
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:24,200
effective force in the world,
and the Chinese know that. But

1786
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,200
the Chinese are trying to
develop their military to a

1787
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,920
point where they will be the
dominant military in East Asia,

1788
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:35,060
western Pacific, at least by the
mid 30s, and maybe earlier.

1789
01:42:36,260 --> 01:42:39,680
President Xi has told his
generals to develop the

1790
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,060
capability. He didn't say he was
going to invade, but to develop

1791
01:42:43,060 --> 01:42:46,060
the capability to invade the
island of Taiwan and seize it by

1792
01:42:46,060 --> 01:42:50,020
2027 which is right around the
corner. Now, that doesn't mean

1793
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:51,100
he's perfect, prime

1794
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:55,960
Adam Curry: perfect. We have the
economy cycle collapsing in 2026

1795
01:42:56,980 --> 01:43:00,100
we need to build it up. What are
we going to build it up with

1796
01:43:00,820 --> 01:43:05,700
military industrial complex for
the 2027 invasion, ability to

1797
01:43:05,700 --> 01:43:08,340
Unknown: invade the island of
Taiwan and seize it by 2027

1798
01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:11,700
which is right around the
corner. Now, that doesn't mean

1799
01:43:11,700 --> 01:43:15,180
he's going to do it. He told his
guys to develop the capability

1800
01:43:15,180 --> 01:43:17,820
to do it. And there's some
symbology there, because it's

1801
01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:20,100
the 20 20/700 anniversary

1802
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,940
Adam Curry: symbology. Doesn't
even mean symbolism. He's

1803
01:43:22,940 --> 01:43:25,340
symbology. He

1804
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,600
Unknown: told his guys to
develop the capability to do it.

1805
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:33,020
And there's some symbology
there, because it's the 2027 is

1806
01:43:33,020 --> 01:43:35,840
the 100th anniversary of the
People's Liberation Army as

1807
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:40,040
well. But by the mid 30s,
China's intent is to be the

1808
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:44,680
dominant military, diplomatic,
economic power in all of Asia by

1809
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,240
mid century, by 2049

1810
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,080
Adam Curry: you and I will be
dead by then, it's China's

1811
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,980
Unknown: aspiration to be the
number one global military

1812
01:43:53,980 --> 01:43:57,880
diplomatic power, at least co
equal, but preferably superior,

1813
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:01,860
to the United States in terms of
its economic throw weight and

1814
01:44:01,860 --> 01:44:05,820
its military. Now, will China
get there or not, very much, an

1815
01:44:05,820 --> 01:44:08,880
open question, and that could go
in a lot of different

1816
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,060
directions. China is not 10 feet
tall. They have all kinds of

1817
01:44:12,060 --> 01:44:16,440
internal problems and so on so
forth. But it is worth paying

1818
01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:19,740
very close attention to, because
they are probably the one

1819
01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:23,480
country who has the legs in the
distance that could literally

1820
01:44:23,480 --> 01:44:26,120
challenge the United States
position on a global scale. So

1821
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:29,420
Adam Curry: the setup is here,
the setup. It's primed and

1822
01:44:29,420 --> 01:44:34,340
ready. Oh, by the way, Russia,
you know, they got news. It's

1823
01:44:34,340 --> 01:44:35,000
really China.

1824
01:44:35,900 --> 01:44:38,720
Unknown: Russia clearly is an
acute threat. It's dangerous.

1825
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,240
They obviously have a lot of
nuclear weapons, and they're

1826
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,740
engaged in active, the biggest
ground war in Europe since 1945

1827
01:44:45,820 --> 01:44:51,880
but it's really China challenge.
It to the United States, and

1828
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,480
it's more complicated. We're
living in a multi polar world

1829
01:44:55,480 --> 01:44:58,120
now. So we've got three great
powers, United States, Russia

1830
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:01,080
and China. During the Cold War,
we had. Two immediately

1831
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,800
following the Cold War, it was a
Unipolar Moment, as people say.

1832
01:45:05,220 --> 01:45:08,220
So, for a short period of time,
the United States clearly was

1833
01:45:08,220 --> 01:45:12,120
preeminent and the only real
superpower out there. But today,

1834
01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:15,180
it's clear we're in a multi
polar world, and that's really

1835
01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:17,520
growing in a lot of different
ways, and it's a much more

1836
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,440
complex world today than it was
not too long ago,

1837
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,340
Adam Curry: China, American
Bankers Association, they're

1838
01:45:25,340 --> 01:45:28,820
going for China. And you know
what? It still would not

1839
01:45:28,820 --> 01:45:34,280
surprise me if Trump is talking
to Xi saying, Listen, you can

1840
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,400
rattle the sword a little bit.
Do your do your bit? Whatever.

1841
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,720
Taiwan, blah, blah, blah. I need
to build me some ships. I need a

1842
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:46,060
dome. I need an Iron Dome. This
that that will be the only

1843
01:45:46,060 --> 01:45:50,740
saving grace, I think, for our
economy, is to have a new new

1844
01:45:50,740 --> 01:45:54,940
new threat, which will be China,
and then build new new new gear.

1845
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,480
What else are we going to do
while we're waiting for the

1846
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:03,240
tariffs to kick in? Just
thinking, I don't know,

1847
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,480
pragmatically, pragmatically.
Yeah,

1848
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:09,240
John C Dvorak: we make most of
our money from build building

1849
01:46:09,900 --> 01:46:10,860
war gear.

1850
01:46:11,700 --> 01:46:14,580
Adam Curry: War gear. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for

1851
01:46:14,580 --> 01:46:17,520
your courage. Say in the morning
to you, the man who put the C in

1852
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:21,140
the off the cuff podcast, say
hello to my friend on the other

1853
01:46:21,140 --> 01:46:22,640
end, the one only, Mr. John C
Good

1854
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,420
John C Dvorak: morning to you.
Mr. Adam curry, also in the

1855
01:46:29,420 --> 01:46:31,880
morning, all the ships and sea
boots on the ground, feeding the

1856
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,820
air subs in the water, and all
the Dames and nights out. Hello,

1857
01:46:34,820 --> 01:46:41,980
Adam Curry: hello, hello. In the
morning, of course, we've got

1858
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:46,120
1902, I can remember that means
we're 100 above our average.

1859
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:50,500
Yeah, I finally, finally did it.
Finally did it, and that's

1860
01:46:50,500 --> 01:46:54,340
because of garbage. Garbage is
good. Garbage is good for

1861
01:46:54,340 --> 01:46:58,000
business. Wouldn't you say
garbage is doing good for us?

1862
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,860
Seems to be, yeah, hey, trolls
welcome. Trolls are in the troll

1863
01:47:01,860 --> 01:47:04,260
room. Troll room. They do have
the Halloween

1864
01:47:04,260 --> 01:47:05,940
John C Dvorak: clips for later
in the show.

1865
01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:09,360
Adam Curry: Oh, whoo. I'm so
excited. That's great. Well,

1866
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,800
John C Dvorak: it's Halloween,
you know, yeah. Do you have you

1867
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:18,360
give candy to the kids that come
by or don't even bother? No.

1868
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,840
Adam Curry: Well, first of all,
there's very I think the first

1869
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:25,580
year we were here, we had some
candy, but no one comes by. The

1870
01:47:25,580 --> 01:47:29,120
kids here from away on the other
side street, they come by and

1871
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,360
selling stuff. Hey, I started a
new sewing company. You want to

1872
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:36,260
buy this? They're entrepreneurs
here. They're not out trick or

1873
01:47:36,260 --> 01:47:38,660
treating. We just turned no
trick or

1874
01:47:38,660 --> 01:47:39,680
John C Dvorak: just pathetic,

1875
01:47:39,860 --> 01:47:42,100
Adam Curry: oh no in town, but
we're a little bit out of town.

1876
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,160
We just turn the lights off and
sit here in the dark watching,

1877
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:45,700
oh,

1878
01:47:45,700 --> 01:47:48,160
John C Dvorak: you're one of
those, watching Seinfeld turn

1879
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:51,160
the lights off, honey. So the
kids won't come.

1880
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,280
Adam Curry: Well, the kids, are
they gonna walk all the way up

1881
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,680
to your front door? You just
throw some stuff down at the

1882
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:57,160
bottom. I

1883
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,480
John C Dvorak: could, I could. I
had them all stay down there and

1884
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:04,980
I throw stuff at him, pennies. I
feel like John Rockefeller,

1885
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,520
Adam Curry: have a roll of
pennies. Kids,

1886
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:10,560
John C Dvorak: some pennies.

1887
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:13,500
Adam Curry: And the trolls are
listening at troll room.io.

1888
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:17,340
They're listening live. It's the
no agenda stream. It's quite a

1889
01:48:17,340 --> 01:48:21,440
phenomenon. It's filled with all
whole bunch of off the cuff

1890
01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:25,580
podcasts. But it's quite the
community. People love

1891
01:48:25,580 --> 01:48:30,140
listening, creating themselves.
It's a lot of it's live, and if

1892
01:48:30,140 --> 01:48:33,320
not, we roll out podcasts on
schedules. It's really good. Sir

1893
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,620
beroz manages most of that. It's
very, very good job with cotton

1894
01:48:36,620 --> 01:48:40,960
gin and everyone's got some
kooky name, and the trolls

1895
01:48:41,020 --> 01:48:44,800
troll, and this, it's true,
freedom of speech. They do

1896
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,720
whatever they want to say. By

1897
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,820
John C Dvorak: the way, I do
have a good suggestion for

1898
01:48:48,820 --> 01:48:52,060
people, giving out stuff to the
kids when they come by.

1899
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,360
Adam Curry: THC, gummies, soup,

1900
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:56,320
Unknown: soup, soup.

1901
01:48:59,140 --> 01:49:00,420
Adam Curry: Have you ever tried
that

1902
01:49:01,740 --> 01:49:03,600
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking
about, yeah, and everyone

1903
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,640
should. Every kid gets a bowl of
soup. What

1904
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,800
Adam Curry: kind of soup were
you thinking? You

1905
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,900
John C Dvorak: know, kids like
chicken noodle. That would

1906
01:49:13,860 --> 01:49:17,880
Adam Curry: be good soup. Don't
go to that house. That guy's

1907
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:23,420
nuts. Have you ever seen his
office? No, I hear it's

1908
01:49:23,420 --> 01:49:30,080
horrible. You can also listen to
the podcast and the live stream

1909
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:33,380
in a modern podcast app, which
is a great way to do it if

1910
01:49:33,380 --> 01:49:36,920
you're on now, if you have Apple
intelligence, I'd say, don't use

1911
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,980
the apple podcast app. Get cast.
O Matic from the App Store is

1912
01:49:39,980 --> 01:49:42,940
really good. It's only on on
iPhones, but it's, it's a

1913
01:49:42,940 --> 01:49:44,980
fantastic app. You

1914
01:49:44,980 --> 01:49:47,800
John C Dvorak: told me something
to email that I'm I have to

1915
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:53,560
bring up, okay, Apple is doing
transcripts of podcasts. Yes,

1916
01:49:53,860 --> 01:49:55,420
Adam Curry: so podcasting 2.0

1917
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,400
John C Dvorak: do I think that's
illegal? Let

1918
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,920
Adam Curry: me finish with the
statement. Podcasting two point.

1919
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,740
Point Zero created the standard
for inserting into your feed a

1920
01:50:04,740 --> 01:50:10,320
transcript of the episode, and
so we we use otter.ai actually,

1921
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,440
we just one of our producers
says they have an AI transcript

1922
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:16,320
company, and they've offered us
free transcription. So I'm going

1923
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,720
to take them up on that offer if
they're any good, which probably

1924
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:23,120
is no agenda producer. And so we
had those running for a couple

1925
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:27,680
years, and that was kind of a
big win for us, because Apple

1926
01:50:27,740 --> 01:50:31,160
now adopted the podcasting 2.0
standard. They put it in their

1927
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:35,600
docs. But the way it works with
them is, if you don't have, if

1928
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:39,920
you don't explicitly say, I have
my own transcript, they will

1929
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,300
make their own transcript of
your podcast, and I do it for

1930
01:50:43,300 --> 01:50:45,880
every single one, and you say
that is illegal,

1931
01:50:47,860 --> 01:50:49,360
Unknown: they're making a copy,

1932
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:55,480
John C Dvorak: a written copy,
of the of the COP of copyrighted

1933
01:50:55,480 --> 01:50:59,080
material. You can't just copy it
without permission. Oh,

1934
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,940
Adam Curry: you make a huge
mistake. You can't just put your

1935
01:51:02,940 --> 01:51:08,340
stuff onto apple in the to be
available on the Apple podcast

1936
01:51:08,340 --> 01:51:11,580
app, unless you sign their EU
law.

1937
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:13,920
John C Dvorak: Also the EU law,

1938
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:16,860
Adam Curry: oh yeah, oh yeah,
okay. They can do whatever they

1939
01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:19,620
want. That's why we created
podcast index, because those

1940
01:51:19,620 --> 01:51:23,060
guys were the default on ramp,
and you had to register and sign

1941
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:24,860
their you lot, same as Spotify.

1942
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:30,440
Unknown: Yeah, exactly. Screw
them. So,

1943
01:51:31,700 --> 01:51:34,340
Adam Curry: rock against the
man, rock against the power. Get

1944
01:51:34,340 --> 01:51:38,120
your own transcript that spells
John C Dvorak, wrong. That's

1945
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:41,860
what we want. Get some humor
from the from the wonky boys

1946
01:51:41,860 --> 01:51:45,460
over at podcasting 2.0 and those
apps, by the way, have all kinds

1947
01:51:45,460 --> 01:51:48,280
of things Apple doesn't have.
For instance, it updates within

1948
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,220
90 seconds of publishing an
episode. You don't have to wait

1949
01:51:51,220 --> 01:51:56,380
hours. Sometimes it takes with
Apple, and you get chapters that

1950
01:51:56,380 --> 01:52:02,100
they don't have, the cloud
chapters and also, when we go

1951
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:04,740
live, you get the live stream
with a notification when we send

1952
01:52:04,740 --> 01:52:09,000
out the bat scene was a
beautiful thing. Now you've

1953
01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:12,600
probably also noticed we don't
want advertisements. We never

1954
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:16,320
have 17 years or 17 years in one
episode. Now, we've never had an

1955
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:20,600
advertisement. We've run this
value for value, and you're

1956
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,660
starting to explain it more
frequently in the newsletter. I

1957
01:52:23,660 --> 01:52:27,260
noticed, which I think is good
explain to people that we put

1958
01:52:27,260 --> 01:52:32,360
this show out there for free,
you know, and we consider it to

1959
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,980
be valuable. We put a lot of
time and effort into it. I'm

1960
01:52:36,980 --> 01:52:39,740
sorry, it's really just off the
cuff. We just kind of sit down

1961
01:52:39,740 --> 01:52:40,120
and off

1962
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John C Dvorak: the cuff, off the
cuff. We just got his dad lived

1963
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,560
the whole show. Yeah, that's
exactly

1964
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,380
Adam Curry: what we do. And all
we ask is that you return the

1965
01:52:47,380 --> 01:52:50,080
value whenever it's convenient
to you, and whatever amount is

1966
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,360
convenient to you. For some
people, it's more than others,

1967
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:56,200
but they may have more money, or
they may have more time to have

1968
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,780
more producers. That's right.
And we have, well,

1969
01:52:58,780 --> 01:53:01,200
John C Dvorak: that's actually
not possible, if you think about

1970
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,680
it, no one has nobody can have
more producers than the no

1971
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:09,120
agenda show. In fact, we have
the podcast 1000s with 1000s.

1972
01:53:09,180 --> 01:53:11,400
Adam Curry: We have no
listeners. That's the best part

1973
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,680
about our podcast. We have no
listeners. We only have

1974
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,580
producers, and they deliver
time, talent and treasure, and

1975
01:53:17,580 --> 01:53:25,160
one example of the time and the
talent is our no agenda artists,

1976
01:53:25,220 --> 01:53:30,260
many of them Dutch masters. Now
it was our 17th anniversary on

1977
01:53:30,260 --> 01:53:35,780
the last episode, Episode 1707
on the 27th of November, lots of

1978
01:53:35,780 --> 01:53:39,680
sevens. We titled it sweet 17.
And it was very hard to find a

1979
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,560
good piece of art. It was

1980
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:45,280
John C Dvorak: funny that it was
difficult as it was. Yeah,

1981
01:53:45,340 --> 01:53:49,240
Adam Curry: and Francisco
scaramenga, who was always very

1982
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,420
complimentary when we choose his
artwork, even though you think

1983
01:53:52,420 --> 01:53:53,380
he hates us, which,

1984
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:58,480
John C Dvorak: oh, he does, No,
he doesn't. I heard him well

1985
01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:03,240
last time I was on that Mastodon
thing, I All he did was berate

1986
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:03,900
the show and

1987
01:54:03,900 --> 01:54:07,260
Adam Curry: us. Maybe you should
just forgive him. I think, I

1988
01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:09,060
think you're hanging on to it
too much.

1989
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:11,160
John C Dvorak: No, I'm hanging
on to because a good bit.

1990
01:54:12,540 --> 01:54:14,700
Adam Curry: So scaramanger
brought us the and he's

1991
01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:18,060
John C Dvorak: producing more.
He is way more. He

1992
01:54:18,060 --> 01:54:21,020
Adam Curry: is producing more.
Scaramanger brought us the

1993
01:54:21,020 --> 01:54:25,280
artwork for for our 17th
anniversary, which was not

1994
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,980
exactly clear what it was, but
it was a big block that looked

1995
01:54:27,980 --> 01:54:31,640
kind of like that. What's that
thing that all the Muslims go

1996
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:36,560
to? Yeah, the cube in Mecca.
Yeah, the Mecca cube with the

1997
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,860
big 17 on it and and little
figures running around. It was,

1998
01:54:39,860 --> 01:54:40,480
it was actually

1999
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,180
John C Dvorak: named for one of
our Muslim producers in the chat

2000
01:54:43,180 --> 01:54:45,460
room will tell us exactly what
it's called. I can't think

2001
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,340
Adam Curry: Muslim producers
where Coronavirus of Dog Patch

2002
01:54:48,340 --> 01:54:50,320
and lowers labovia. What
happened to him?

2003
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,540
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting, because he hasn't

2004
01:54:52,540 --> 01:54:55,300
shown up for a while. And I
figured, oh god, this. I was

2005
01:54:55,300 --> 01:54:59,740
worried she could be so I
brought it up at the with Jay

2006
01:54:59,740 --> 01:55:04,740
and. Uh, Brennan rover and and
Jay just calmly says, you know,

2007
01:55:04,740 --> 01:55:07,800
because of all the action going
on in the Middle East, she says,

2008
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,140
you know, he might be working

2009
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,200
Adam Curry: good point, Jay, he
just might be worried the Cuba,

2010
01:55:16,380 --> 01:55:18,240
Cuba, Cuba, Cuba, yeah, they

2011
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:23,480
John C Dvorak: could. They could
pronounce uh, yeah. He might be

2012
01:55:23,540 --> 01:55:25,400
more work. He might be, you
know,

2013
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:29,240
Adam Curry: he definitely has a,
we don't know exactly what he is

2014
01:55:29,300 --> 01:55:31,820
or what he does, but we're
pretty sure it's something

2015
01:55:31,820 --> 01:55:34,340
clandestine, and we hope he's
okay. Well,

2016
01:55:34,340 --> 01:55:37,820
John C Dvorak: he must be. It
has to be because he's so he

2017
01:55:37,820 --> 01:55:42,700
sends cash, yeah, from looks
like, you know, fresh hundreds

2018
01:55:42,820 --> 01:55:46,120
and $2 somebody could have just
said, Hey, wait, why is this

2019
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,040
pile of hundreds going down?

2020
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:50,140
Adam Curry: Hey, let me grab
that.

2021
01:55:50,500 --> 01:55:52,180
John C Dvorak: What are you
doing with this stuff?

2022
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:56,860
Adam Curry: Maybe got burned
along with the ballots you never

2023
01:55:56,860 --> 01:56:00,540
know. Who knows? You never know.
So we did. We haven't heard from

2024
01:56:00,540 --> 01:56:03,180
him. And, you know, at this
worries couple months. Yeah, I'm

2025
01:56:03,180 --> 01:56:05,880
always worried. And if it
doesn't matter who I was happy

2026
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,720
to hear from, sir, Chris Wilson,
again, who I did a TED talk

2027
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:10,320
recently.

2028
01:56:11,820 --> 01:56:15,120
John C Dvorak: Chris did a TED
talk, yeah, oh, you didn't know

2029
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,160
that. Or is it TEDx? No, I'm

2030
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,620
Adam Curry: sorry. It's a TEDx.
Let me see. I think I have,

2031
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:28,400
think I have a piece of it here.
Yeah, this is a piece of his TED

2032
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:28,880
talk. What do

2033
01:56:29,300 --> 01:56:32,960
Unknown: we do with all this
data? We use algorithms that

2034
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:37,160
parse this massive catalog of
data using deep iteration, or

2035
01:56:37,340 --> 01:56:38,360
DI.

2036
01:56:38,540 --> 01:56:40,220
Adam Curry: It's called
redefining artificial

2037
01:56:40,220 --> 01:56:42,520
intelligence Now, d i

2038
01:56:43,420 --> 01:56:45,280
John C Dvorak: Your favorite
talks? Yeah,

2039
01:56:46,420 --> 01:56:47,860
Unknown: Chris is a funny guy.

2040
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:52,600
Adam Curry: But anyway, the
point being, you know, even Luke

2041
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,780
wonder helm came back on the
scene, and he had left. He had

2042
01:56:55,780 --> 01:56:58,840
rage quit, because, you know, we
weren't taking Russia seriously

2043
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:03,540
enough. And Ukraine, Ukraine, I
said, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine

2044
01:57:03,540 --> 01:57:08,100
and but he's been listening
again, which is nice. So I'm on

2045
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,220
John C Dvorak: this is a great
show. The fact that people rage

2046
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,880
quit and refuse to listen, but
not if they refuse to listen,

2047
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,060
the only excuse I've ever Well,
I said, driving a truck for all

2048
01:57:18,060 --> 01:57:21,560
you know. And I could listen to
this show the six hours a show a

2049
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,740
week, but now I'm at home, or
I've got a different job, or I

2050
01:57:24,740 --> 01:57:27,440
work in the office. I got no
commute. I don't you know if you

2051
01:57:27,860 --> 01:57:31,280
Yeah, habituated to listening on
a commute? Yeah? Okay,

2052
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,740
Adam Curry: but, and by the way,
garbage guys, I'll just call

2053
01:57:33,740 --> 01:57:38,240
them garbage guys. Love us. My
garbage guy here and tell me you

2054
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:42,520
get this service. So Sunday
night, I was really tired after

2055
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:47,260
the show and, you know, and just
we went to bed early, and then

2056
01:57:47,260 --> 01:57:50,440
nine o'clock on Monday, Tina
says, Did you take the garbage?

2057
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:54,160
I'm like, Oh, I completely
forgot. I text the guy. He's

2058
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:55,960
like, no problem. We'll come
back in an

2059
01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:58,600
Unknown: hour. I mean, that's
pretty cool.

2060
01:57:59,140 --> 01:58:02,640
John C Dvorak: You have a your
garbage guy, your sanitation

2061
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:07,260
engineers, text message, text
message. Phone number, yeah,

2062
01:58:07,380 --> 01:58:10,560
Adam Curry: oh yeah, wow. And I
don't think he even knows about

2063
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,420
the show or anything, but

2064
01:58:12,420 --> 01:58:14,340
John C Dvorak: tell no, listen
to the show. He might like it.

2065
01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:16,080
He probably would.

2066
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,680
Adam Curry: Everybody here likes
the show. Hey, man, I was in a

2067
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:23,720
12 foot hole. The other day,
drinking seriously. I heard last

2068
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:27,740
night 12 foot hole in a 12 foot
hole for a septic system. I was

2069
01:58:27,740 --> 01:58:30,860
talking to Eric, and Eric says
he mows your lawn. Everybody

2070
01:58:30,860 --> 01:58:34,400
knows everybody around here is
great. Around here is not the

2071
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,700
same. No, no, you don't even
know your neighbors. Normally

2072
01:58:37,700 --> 01:58:38,120
do. All

2073
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,720
John C Dvorak: my neighbors. You
don't want to talk to him. We're

2074
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,580
suing one of them halfway.

2075
01:58:42,700 --> 01:58:48,160
Adam Curry: Stop the press. What
do you sue? By the way, neighbor

2076
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,820
disputes can get ugly. What is,
what is happening? Oh,

2077
01:58:51,820 --> 01:58:54,100
John C Dvorak: it's just, it's
just a it's a long story. It's

2078
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:56,620
been going on for a couple
years, and it's costing a lot of

2079
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:01,360
lawyer money. But you should be
able to, can you explain? I'm

2080
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,600
not going to talk about talk
about it. Is

2081
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:04,740
Adam Curry: it about offense?

2082
01:59:06,420 --> 01:59:10,620
John C Dvorak: Well, if there is
a fence involved, but it's not

2083
01:59:10,620 --> 01:59:12,120
specifically about defense,

2084
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,480
Adam Curry: wow. You're like the
Osbornes, oh, man, you're one of

2085
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:16,980
those neighbors, huh? Or you're

2086
01:59:16,980 --> 01:59:18,180
John C Dvorak: the good No,
we're not one of those

2087
01:59:18,180 --> 01:59:20,820
neighbors. The other neighbors,
the one impinging. Oh,

2088
01:59:20,940 --> 01:59:22,520
Adam Curry: they're impinging on
your turf.

2089
01:59:23,180 --> 01:59:23,660
Unknown: Yeah,

2090
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,440
Adam Curry: I gotcha anyway.
Thank you for the other tries I

2091
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:32,000
like the Carter, 17 trips around
the sun. What was that? What

2092
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:34,700
Unknown: was that sound?

2093
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,420
Adam Curry: Odd sound? No, I
heard some kind of odd sound on

2094
01:59:38,420 --> 01:59:39,020
what came from.

2095
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:42,520
John C Dvorak: Let's see what
else you got a home invasion

2096
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:43,180
taking place.

2097
01:59:43,180 --> 01:59:45,400
Adam Curry: So I guess so trying
to think, was there anything

2098
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,700
else that we liked at all? I'm
not sure. No,

2099
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,720
John C Dvorak: actually, there
you go. Was a paltry selection.

2100
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,960
And what there wasn't even a
cake, birthday cake with the 17

2101
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:57,760
on. I mean, there's simple
stuff. Was

2102
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,540
Adam Curry: that would have won
a simple birthday. Cake would

2103
02:00:00,540 --> 02:00:01,620
have won. I

2104
02:00:01,620 --> 02:00:04,860
John C Dvorak: think it would
have too. Yeah, and, yeah. And I

2105
02:00:04,860 --> 02:00:07,980
thought the key, I thought the
cube was basically, was

2106
02:00:07,980 --> 02:00:10,080
basically lame. And you're,

2107
02:00:10,140 --> 02:00:13,440
Adam Curry: you're like, wow,
look at nestwork, 777 on the

2108
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,140
jackpot. I'll say, what does
that have to do with 17? Yeah,

2109
02:00:16,140 --> 02:00:18,900
John C Dvorak: the seven seven,
yeah. You're, yeah, I like the

2110
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,980
piece. And then that you
mentioned, what's the 777? Got

2111
02:00:21,980 --> 02:00:26,720
to do with 17? If it was all 17
that have been funny? Yeah. No,

2112
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:32,780
they were not. This is I you
attributed this to the fallback

2113
02:00:32,780 --> 02:00:38,120
on AI as kind of, actually, I
was, I was listening to, there's

2114
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:41,200
a show they had locally about,
what do you think about this

2115
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,740
cold it's got some lame name.
It's just a filler show on KTVU,

2116
02:00:45,340 --> 02:00:50,080
and they were talking about
people who use their GPS to go

2117
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:56,500
to the store, to drive home.
They always so the route home,

2118
02:00:56,500 --> 02:00:59,980
which you've gone to a million
times. Do you still have your

2119
02:00:59,980 --> 02:01:03,600
GPS on, showing you to take a
left, take a right. And

2120
02:01:03,780 --> 02:01:07,140
everybody said yes to this. And
I've noticed that everybody in

2121
02:01:07,140 --> 02:01:11,100
the family uses GPS. It's on all
the time. I stopped, well,

2122
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:14,340
because I don't have a phone
anymore, but I stopped using it

2123
02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:19,200
some years ago, the GPS because
I want to find my way around.

2124
02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:22,640
Yeah, keep I want to be able to
literally find my way around

2125
02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:25,700
without having to Google. Tommy,
take a left, take a right,

2126
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:30,380
because you start to lose your
sense of yes, when you when you

2127
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,920
push. And that's what's
happening with the AI art. Yes,

2128
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:36,800
Adam Curry: that's exactly it.
You're right. It's filled up

2129
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,720
with slop. Most of it is man,
okay, uninteresting. And I think

2130
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,480
the true artists go like, Oh,
well, look at all that. That's

2131
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:47,200
better than them. And they give
up. They give up. It's the

2132
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:51,940
saddest thing AI is ruining the
show. Did you see apples? Do you

2133
02:01:51,940 --> 02:01:54,820
see Apple's Apple intelligence
release?

2134
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:58,600
John C Dvorak: I seen a lot of
their ads where their phones are

2135
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,920
flying to the store. But do you
want it? You want to hear it

2136
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:04,020
actually came out with
something, because it's all been

2137
02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:05,640
vapor, where, as far as I can
tell,

2138
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,460
Adam Curry: would you like to
hear the report from KTLA is

2139
02:02:08,460 --> 02:02:12,420
technology reporter about the
apple here we

2140
02:02:12,660 --> 02:02:16,380
Unknown: go. Apple intelligence
is here to learn more about it.

2141
02:02:16,380 --> 02:02:19,500
I went to the Apple Store where
they're doing pop up demos as

2142
02:02:19,500 --> 02:02:21,320
part of their today at Apple
session.

2143
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,600
Please sit. Please get
comfortable and welcome to say

2144
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:24,920
hello to Apple intelligence

2145
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:27,680
tomorrow. Austin is my guide.
It's really the

2146
02:02:27,740 --> 02:02:30,260
best part about Apple
intelligence is how intuitive

2147
02:02:30,260 --> 02:02:31,640
and easy to use it is.

2148
02:02:31,820 --> 02:02:34,760
Not all the features are
available just yet, but you'll

2149
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,200
get new writing tools just

2150
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:38,180
like what you want, and then
immediately rewrite

2151
02:02:38,180 --> 02:02:41,020
it. I love it. You don't to hop
between apps to do this. It's

2152
02:02:41,020 --> 02:02:41,800
all right there,

2153
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:44,140
yes, which is the best part, no
third party apps, no moving

2154
02:02:44,140 --> 02:02:44,800
around. These

2155
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:48,280
let you highlight text and
rewrite it in different styles.

2156
02:02:48,580 --> 02:02:51,820
It works anywhere there's a
blinking cursor. Emails have a

2157
02:02:51,820 --> 02:02:55,780
new summarize button at the top
and a I can help you reply

2158
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:59,200
automatically suggesting
responses to any questions in an

2159
02:02:59,200 --> 02:02:59,560
email by

2160
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:02,280
prioritizing and saving time.
That's really what Apple

2161
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:03,120
intelligence is all

2162
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,820
about. The photos app has a new
cleanup tool, which lets you

2163
02:03:05,820 --> 02:03:09,840
remove unwanted people or
objects from your photos. Siri

2164
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:14,340
is also getting smarter. Set a
timer for 17 minutes. I mean six

2165
02:03:14,340 --> 02:03:19,260
minutes. The voice assistant
will better understand your

2166
02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:23,000
requests, even if you stumble,
and there's a new way to type to

2167
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:27,500
Siri. Wow, that's new double
tap, double tap. The bottom of

2168
02:03:27,500 --> 02:03:33,320
your screen pops up a Siri asks
apples. AI has a colorful glow

2169
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:37,340
and whimsical animations, and
Apple says it's doing all of

2170
02:03:37,340 --> 02:03:39,860
this in a way that protects the
privacy of your data. It's been

2171
02:03:39,860 --> 02:03:40,220
designed

2172
02:03:40,220 --> 02:03:42,740
with privacy from the ground up,
so from the moment that you

2173
02:03:42,740 --> 02:03:45,100
open, moment that you open your
device to any time you use an

2174
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:46,960
app, those privacy implications
are built right

2175
02:03:49,180 --> 02:03:52,180
John C Dvorak: in. There you go.
Terrible reports. Boy sets a

2176
02:03:52,180 --> 02:03:54,280
timer. When is that new?

2177
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:57,640
Adam Curry: No, he stumbled. He
said, set a timer for 50. Oh,

2178
02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:01,560
no, six minutes. And Apple was
so smart it figured it out.

2179
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:05,400
Instead of him, just like
setting the timer, it's

2180
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:12,180
nonsense. It's it's lame. And so
instead of fixing your email

2181
02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:16,800
like you know your spam, it does
summaries. It does summaries of

2182
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:20,120
your text so text messages, if
they weren't short enough, it

2183
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,880
summarizes text messages in the
preview,

2184
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:27,020
John C Dvorak: text messages are
always short, well

2185
02:04:27,020 --> 02:04:30,980
Adam Curry: as I message man, so
someone sent me a screenshot.

2186
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:36,260
His mom had texted him that hike
almost killed me.

2187
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,900
John C Dvorak: Oh yes, the
classic This is going around,

2188
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:39,680
yeah, and you

2189
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:42,880
Adam Curry: saw the the summary
was attempted suicide, but

2190
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:46,540
recovered and hiked in Redlands
and Palm Springs. Yes,

2191
02:04:47,380 --> 02:04:47,800
John C Dvorak: yeah,

2192
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,620
Adam Curry: yeah, oh, this, it's
worth $150 billion investment is

2193
02:04:53,620 --> 02:04:56,320
great. I think, I think it's
well worth it,

2194
02:04:57,940 --> 02:05:00,720
John C Dvorak: even though this
is subject to riding. What we're

2195
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,540
going to see here, and that's
all it's going to be a good for,

2196
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:04,620
was ridicule,

2197
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:08,220
Adam Curry: a Polish radio
station. They had announced two

2198
02:05:08,220 --> 02:05:11,040
weeks ago, we're shutting it
down when we're creating all AI

2199
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:15,060
personalities, we're firing all
the staff. And the listeners

2200
02:05:15,060 --> 02:05:21,080
revolted. They had to go, oh no,
we're hiring back now, which I

2201
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:25,700
think is probably a good thing
anyway. Let's get to the

2202
02:05:25,700 --> 02:05:29,240
treasure portion of, oh, by the
way, no agenda, Art

2203
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:32,060
generator.com, we kind of
strayed away from that. You can

2204
02:05:32,060 --> 02:05:34,400
listen to that in real time.
Refresh it in real time. You can

2205
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,800
participate. That's the beauty
of it. You know, it doesn't have

2206
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,980
to be AI. It could be sometimes
we've taken just a scribble that

2207
02:05:39,980 --> 02:05:43,300
was photo copied. Can be
anything. As long as you've got

2208
02:05:43,300 --> 02:05:46,960
the right creativity in there,
we'll recognize it. We recognize

2209
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:52,600
genius here, especially from
Dutch masters, no agenda, Art

2210
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,240
generator.com, and by the way,
it's not just for the art for

2211
02:05:55,240 --> 02:06:00,100
the show. Dr Scott uses many of
those images for Chapter

2212
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:02,700
artwork, which is a delight when
you're driving along with a

2213
02:06:02,700 --> 02:06:05,820
modern podcast app. Now for the
treasure portion, we'd like to

2214
02:06:05,820 --> 02:06:08,640
thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers.

2215
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:12,120
Again, we have no listeners only
producers, just like Hollywood,

2216
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:15,000
when you come in with more money
because you can afford it. I'll

2217
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,520
be honest about it. That's how
it usually works in Hollywood,

2218
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:21,800
too. We'll give you a special
mention and a credit, just like

2219
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,260
Hollywood, these are valid
anywhere that credits are

2220
02:06:24,260 --> 02:06:27,860
recognized, including imdb.com,
which you'll go ahead take a

2221
02:06:27,860 --> 02:06:30,500
look. All the Hollywood stars
are there, all the big producers

2222
02:06:30,500 --> 02:06:33,380
you can be there now, as well,
over 1000 no agenda producers

2223
02:06:33,380 --> 02:06:37,160
are listed. $200 and above, you
become an Associate Executive

2224
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:39,860
Producer with that forever,
lifetime credit, and we'll read

2225
02:06:39,860 --> 02:06:44,740
your note. $300 and above, whoa,
$300 above. And you become an

2226
02:06:44,740 --> 02:06:47,140
executive producer, and we read
your note. Are you okay? What

2227
02:06:47,140 --> 02:06:49,720
are you doing? You fall down.

2228
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:52,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm sorry I
was looking out the window,

2229
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:55,480
since that Amazon Prime truck
just drove,

2230
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:58,600
Adam Curry: boy, you make a lot
of noise when you look out the

2231
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:03,900
window. And we kick it off,
starting with our top executive

2232
02:07:03,900 --> 02:07:09,420
producer, who comes in with
$1,000 $31,030.26 which I'm

2233
02:07:09,420 --> 02:07:14,460
thinking is because he added the
fees. So it's an Insta

2234
02:07:14,460 --> 02:07:17,760
something. Well Actually he says
slipping into the wire, just

2235
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:22,280
like most of my college classes
and a Commodore as a bonus. No

2236
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:26,420
brainer, how exactly do I sign
correspondence? Now says, Sir,

2237
02:07:26,420 --> 02:07:32,000
who debt of who debt of the Hall
of Fame city PhD and soon to be

2238
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,060
Commodore? How do you sign your
correspondence if you're a

2239
02:07:35,060 --> 02:07:40,160
Commodore? I don't know, but you
should have an answer for this.

2240
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:40,720
I

2241
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:43,480
John C Dvorak: know I should
maybe comedy just put Commodore

2242
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:46,420
down there. Put a comma at the
end of your name, put Commodore.

2243
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:47,560
All right, that would work.

2244
02:07:47,620 --> 02:07:50,620
Unknown: All right. All right.
Thank you very much.

2245
02:07:51,220 --> 02:07:53,140
John C Dvorak: That's not a
question that's come up.

2246
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:57,580
Unknown: Thank you very much,
sir. Who that? Who that, who

2247
02:07:57,580 --> 02:07:57,820
that,

2248
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:00,600
John C Dvorak: who must be in
New Orleans, who that? That's my

2249
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:05,580
guess. Who did, yeah, who dad.
That's what this used to be, a

2250
02:08:05,580 --> 02:08:08,460
phrase they used one of the
football teams used, who dad,

2251
02:08:08,460 --> 02:08:13,320
who debt? I think it was the
saints, or they used to be

2252
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:18,720
called the ain't until they won
the Super Bowl. Okay,

2253
02:08:18,900 --> 02:08:21,380
Adam Curry: some sports ball
humor on the show, wow,

2254
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:24,740
John C Dvorak: sir. Artless
chance, yeah, I know it's gonna

2255
02:08:24,740 --> 02:08:32,180
go over like a lead brick. Uh,
sir. Artless chance in, oh, hey,

2256
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:37,340
we, there's our Portugal. Yes, I
noticed port in Porto, the home

2257
02:08:37,340 --> 02:08:43,720
of, of, of port, which is, uh,
the Finder. I had my for some

2258
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:47,860
reason. I don't know. I have no
idea why this happened. I pushed

2259
02:08:47,860 --> 02:08:50,800
a button and it scrolled to the
bottom. There we go. Switcheroo.

2260
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:56,500
He writes, after 33 years in
Hong Kong, my Chinese wife and

2261
02:08:56,740 --> 02:09:02,160
and I a German retro bait have
settled in Portugal. Yeah, they

2262
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:05,700
Adam Curry: must tentacles. What
they must be criminals. That's

2263
02:09:05,700 --> 02:09:10,440
where all the criminals go. Yes,
no. Criminals go to Portugal.

2264
02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:12,840
John C Dvorak: Everybody in
Great Britain goes there if they

2265
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:17,340
can retire. Yeah. But the
tentacles of the EU have this

2266
02:09:17,340 --> 02:09:20,220
beautiful country in a tight
embrace, and the Portuguese

2267
02:09:20,220 --> 02:09:26,420
largely do not see this as a
problem. You doing, man, as

2268
02:09:26,420 --> 02:09:29,840
citizens of the world, we would
like all of us. Would like, like

2269
02:09:29,900 --> 02:09:35,240
all of us to come together. You
and John have done a stellar job

2270
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:38,300
in the past 17 years. Hopefully,
the nucleus that you've created

2271
02:09:38,300 --> 02:09:43,480
will continue to thrive. But as
any good fathers know, late

2272
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:48,400
adolescence is still far from
Independence. 1717, so please

2273
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:51,400
give us four more years, sir.
Artless chance. Please Knight

2274
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:55,540
me, Knight my wife as dame.
Velocity, 432,

2275
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:58,360
Unknown: you consider it done.

2276
02:09:58,420 --> 02:09:59,560
John C Dvorak: He came in with
1000

2277
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:03,180
Adam Curry: Dollars surveillance
from Brentwood, Tennessee,

2278
02:10:03,300 --> 02:10:07,860
$500.52 greetings from
surveillance. Retired a wax

2279
02:10:07,860 --> 02:10:13,920
spook and proud dad. We got
spooks. I'm donating $500.52 in

2280
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:19,080
a switcheroo for my no agenda.
Fan and B 52 pilot Kim, that's

2281
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:22,940
his daughter to make her the
highest ranking bomber pilot in

2282
02:10:22,940 --> 02:10:28,640
the US Air Force as a Commodore
FYI, is not uncommon for these

2283
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:33,320
guys to fly 24 hours plus
missions in one go, projecting

2284
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:37,040
our might. Thanks for keeping
her brain free, which she

2285
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:40,660
handles the part of the freedom
for the rest of us while she

2286
02:10:40,660 --> 02:10:42,880
handles that part of the
freedom. Well, thank you. We

2287
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:49,000
appreciate Kim, and she will,
she will receive the Commodore

2288
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:50,020
ship, beautiful.

2289
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:53,860
John C Dvorak: You know, he had
a, I have to go find it. I would

2290
02:10:53,860 --> 02:10:56,740
give you this later. He has a
quiz for you because he you're

2291
02:10:56,740 --> 02:11:01,920
the aviator, and he wanted me to
pull a quiz on you that he

2292
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:04,320
figured you can't get right if
you tried.

2293
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:09,480
Adam Curry: Oh, that's fun,
yeah. And you promptly forgot to

2294
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:10,560
bring it to the party.

2295
02:11:11,340 --> 02:11:14,340
John C Dvorak: I know you know I
remembered it, but then at the

2296
02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:18,240
same time, I said, Well, I can
find this. It's on the email.

2297
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:21,500
And then I'm

2298
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:26,960
Adam Curry: falling apart. Man,
you're falling apart. It's

2299
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,900
always I'm falling apart.
Studios falling apart.

2300
02:11:29,900 --> 02:11:30,980
Everything's falling apart.

2301
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:38,480
John C Dvorak: Studio is not
falling apart, okay? Oh, I'm

2302
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:41,680
sorry. I'm looking for the
email, and I forgot that there's

2303
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:47,740
a guy listed here, and this will
be Martin Graf in Grandville,

2304
02:11:47,740 --> 02:11:51,460
Ohio, and he came with 500 500 I
guess he wants a Commodore ship

2305
02:11:51,820 --> 02:11:55,840
belatedly, and we're still
giving him out and so, but he

2306
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,840
didn't put a note. So it's no no
jingles, no karma, no nothing.

2307
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:00,420
And he gets a double up karma.

2308
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:05,400
Unknown: You've got karma.

2309
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:12,240
Adam Curry: Then we move to Kirk
Crawford in Lomita. Lomita,

2310
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:17,520
California, $500 he says, I have
been listening since the daily

2311
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:20,420
source code days, and then on to
no agenda. Show you've been a

2312
02:12:20,420 --> 02:12:23,840
great help in understanding how
the world works over these many

2313
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:26,420
years. This donation is just the
beginning of what I want to

2314
02:12:26,420 --> 02:12:29,300
contribute for all the value you
have given me. You see how this

2315
02:12:29,300 --> 02:12:31,760
value for value thing works. It
really does work. I love it.

2316
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:35,720
That's fantastic. Thank you so
much. Appreciate it. The

2317
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:38,300
Commodore title will be
Commodore Kirk of the South Bay,

2318
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:42,280
and of course, you will go to no
agenda rings.com you give us

2319
02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:44,920
your information, what you want
on your Commodore certificate,

2320
02:12:45,340 --> 02:12:47,920
and we will get that off to you
as soon as possible. Jingle,

2321
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,560
request, Obama, no, no, no, no,
no, and anything from Al

2322
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,420
Sharpton, thank you for your
courage.

2323
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:53,920
Unknown: I've been watching you.

2324
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:20,580
John C Dvorak: So now we go to
Sir carries in Dracut, dry or

2325
02:13:20,580 --> 02:13:22,980
Dracut. I figured, you know, I
don't how do you pronounce that?

2326
02:13:22,980 --> 02:13:27,440
Pronounce that in Massachusetts,
nuts Dracut. And he's got 500

2327
02:13:27,740 --> 02:13:29,540
bucks in there, and he says,
Thanks for all you

2328
02:13:30,740 --> 02:13:34,340
Adam Curry: do. Carries
beautiful Matt Asbury in

2329
02:13:34,340 --> 02:13:41,740
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, wauwa Tosa
500 and he has all caps. And so

2330
02:13:41,740 --> 02:13:46,900
my fellow slaves Ask not what
jingles Adam can play for you.

2331
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,160
Ask what value you can provide
to the best podcast in the

2332
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:56,140
universe. Well stated future
Commodore smelt from the Lake

2333
02:13:56,140 --> 02:13:58,840
Michigan, carrier group. Thank
you very much.

2334
02:13:59,380 --> 02:14:01,680
John C Dvorak: So I found a quiz
if you want to try

2335
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:04,740
Adam Curry: it, let's go. Go for
quiz. Go for quiz. You go for

2336
02:14:04,740 --> 02:14:05,280
quiz.

2337
02:14:05,460 --> 02:14:07,560
John C Dvorak: It's called, he
wants it as an ask him. He says,

2338
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:12,660
aviation trivia on the B, 52 the
don't poke this up. How would I

2339
02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:16,980
know this? Okay, but yeah, you
can take a guess. How far back

2340
02:14:16,980 --> 02:14:21,380
from the nose is the nose gear
wheel on a, b, 5223 feet, 31

2341
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:23,000
feet or 38 feet.

2342
02:14:25,460 --> 02:14:28,340
Adam Curry: Again, can I, can I?
Could you use it in a sentence?

2343
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:33,980
How far back is the is the notes
essay? Again?

2344
02:14:34,460 --> 02:14:37,940
John C Dvorak: How far back is
the nose gear on A, B, 5223

2345
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:41,260
feet, 31 feet or 38 feet,

2346
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:43,180
Unknown: I'll say 23 feet.

2347
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:48,040
John C Dvorak: Cancer, the B 52
is the only plane with no, no.

2348
02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:49,960
Adam Curry: I was a trick
question.

2349
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:57,340
John C Dvorak: Haha. That was
great. Thank you. Yeah, yeah,

2350
02:14:57,340 --> 02:15:00,480
yeah, okay, all right, kind of
hard to resist. Yeah,

2351
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:03,480
Unknown: I understand. Where are
we, like,

2352
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:07,020
John C Dvorak: what is this?
Why? Newell? Yeah, Quint, way.

2353
02:15:07,620 --> 02:15:11,400
Quint, right. Newell. Why
Newell, and he's in Olympia,

2354
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:14,640
Washington. 500 bucks, dude,
it's been too long appreciate

2355
02:15:14,640 --> 02:15:19,320
the extension for us lazy asses,
extension for Commodores, that's

2356
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:24,020
called the grace period. Would
be, I will continue it until

2357
02:15:24,020 --> 02:15:27,200
these crap out. Yeah, we'll be
honored. And love to add a

2358
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:32,060
Commodore to my no agenda
diploma. Commodore Q, if you

2359
02:15:32,060 --> 02:15:35,600
will. By the way, everyone
should go to no agenda rings.com

2360
02:15:36,260 --> 02:15:40,400
and fill out the Commodore
details. Yes, speaking of lazy

2361
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:43,660
asses, I reached night status A
while back, so please Knight me

2362
02:15:43,660 --> 02:15:48,160
too while you're at it, sir.
Sigma, all right, no jingles, no

2363
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:48,580
karma.

2364
02:15:49,420 --> 02:15:53,080
Adam Curry: Bowman McMahon,
Bowman, Bowman, Bowman, Bowman

2365
02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:56,920
McMahon. He's from San Anton,
Texas, $500 he says, donate.

2366
02:15:56,920 --> 02:15:58,840
Jingle please. Thanks. Y'all
Donate.

2367
02:16:02,680 --> 02:16:11,580
Unknown: Donate. Wow,

2368
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:15,540
John C Dvorak: sir, Nick is up,
and he's the dragon of the four

2369
02:16:15,540 --> 02:16:21,260
domains in Waterford, Michigan.
Okay, that's what he is. Since

2370
02:16:21,260 --> 02:16:24,320
the link is still open, I'm
hoping this takes me to a

2371
02:16:24,320 --> 02:16:28,220
Commodore and a baron. So if
possible, I'd like a title

2372
02:16:28,220 --> 02:16:32,540
change to Sir Nick dragon and
purveyor of the of the the

2373
02:16:32,540 --> 02:16:38,180
blank, blank Blarg. Blarg. Or at
least I hope it does,

2374
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:42,160
considering my accounting sheet
is enclosed. If Michigan is open

2375
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:45,640
or abandoned, I will take that.
Otherwise, I will default to my

2376
02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:50,320
land of ancestry, the
Philippines. Please give me a

2377
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:56,080
por la Manana, John's gonna, uh
hum the Sunday Times. And this

2378
02:16:56,080 --> 02:17:00,660
an old one, classic, and some
relationships, single millennial

2379
02:17:00,660 --> 02:17:05,940
karma. Uh, if those are still
there, yeah, and I think Adam's

2380
02:17:05,940 --> 02:17:07,920
got everything. He's
unbelievable. I got it, man.

2381
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:09,960
Thank you for the twice weekly
analysis.

2382
02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:15,540
Unknown: John's gonna harm the
Sunday side.

2383
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:22,340
You've got karma. Classic,

2384
02:17:23,300 --> 02:17:27,920
Adam Curry: classic. Kevin
Reeves, love that one. Dame

2385
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:35,300
bang. Bang comes in from Bucha,
California, with 500 and she is,

2386
02:17:35,300 --> 02:17:37,940
oh, she's becoming a vis
Countess. I have a note here.

2387
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:43,060
And she says, Where's dame?
Bang? Where to bang? Bang. Here

2388
02:17:43,060 --> 02:17:47,320
she is. ITM JCD and Adam. Happy
Show anniversary month, 17 years

2389
02:17:47,620 --> 02:17:50,800
and you never had a fight. I
wanted to join the Commodore

2390
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:53,260
ranks before it was too late.
Upon looking at my donation

2391
02:17:53,260 --> 02:17:58,060
accounting, I realized that I
was just another $38.32 shy of

2392
02:17:58,060 --> 02:18:01,260
becoming a Viscountess.
Accounting below, I'm enclosing

2393
02:18:01,260 --> 02:18:03,600
two checks, one to obtain the
title of Commodore, and the

2394
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:07,140
second to make me Dame Bang Bang
VI, Countess of the native

2395
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:11,580
Chumash territory, which is the
land of my ancestors. Map

2396
02:18:11,580 --> 02:18:15,480
enclosed. I am also enclosing
some memorabilia. Yes,

2397
02:18:15,660 --> 02:18:17,940
John C Dvorak: there, here,
there is. I see them. He

2398
02:18:17,940 --> 02:18:19,560
actually sent a map.

2399
02:18:19,559 --> 02:18:21,859
Adam Curry: I'm disappointed
that the map was not enclosed

2400
02:18:21,859 --> 02:18:25,099
for me on the skin. I'm also,
you know, I'm also enclosing

2401
02:18:25,099 --> 02:18:26,779
some memorabilia for young

2402
02:18:26,780 --> 02:18:30,200
John C Dvorak: area, by the way,
is south of mission, San Luis

2403
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:34,160
Obispo, which is a cool place to
go, because when I went there,

2404
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:37,040
there was still wild chickens
all over the place, all the way

2405
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:42,460
down to mission, Santa Ventura
and some Bonaventura and the

2406
02:18:42,460 --> 02:18:46,420
Santa Barbara Channel has a cool
area, fascinating information.

2407
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:50,200
Adam Curry: Sorry. Closing some
memorabilia for John's archives

2408
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:53,140
from the RFK Jr presidential
campaign, which I worked on.

2409
02:18:53,140 --> 02:18:55,960
That includes a couple pins that
were not sold to the general

2410
02:18:55,960 --> 02:19:01,800
public. Oh, and are they nice?
These are nice pins. I think so.

2411
02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:02,880
Okay, well, you like

2412
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:06,059
John C Dvorak: stuff like that.
That is, that is Yeah, because I

2413
02:19:06,059 --> 02:19:07,979
need more junk to collect,

2414
02:19:07,980 --> 02:19:11,940
Adam Curry: yes, for the kids to
clean up when you're gone. What

2415
02:19:11,940 --> 02:19:12,120
is

2416
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:16,080
John C Dvorak: this crap? It
could be worth 1000s of dollars.

2417
02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:16,440
Believe

2418
02:19:16,440 --> 02:19:19,320
Adam Curry: me, believe me.
Whenever someone sends me

2419
02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:22,040
something to say is going in the
box for my daughter to deal with

2420
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:24,620
when I'm dead. You know, it's
gonna be

2421
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:27,260
John C Dvorak: just throw this
stuff out. They never take it to

2422
02:19:27,260 --> 02:19:29,180
an audience. What are these

2423
02:19:29,180 --> 02:19:32,660
Adam Curry: coins? What are
these coins? These gold coins?

2424
02:19:33,140 --> 02:19:35,900
What's this one with CIA and
Space Force?

2425
02:19:36,380 --> 02:19:42,400
John C Dvorak: Like I have four
different CIA challenge coins,

2426
02:19:42,640 --> 02:19:44,320
Adam Curry: although I have to
say, I don't know if you

2427
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:48,820
received yours yet. Black Dame
loca from Texas, hot glass sent

2428
02:19:48,820 --> 02:19:54,640
me a Glass Sword. Yes, that is a
beautiful piece of work.

2429
02:19:54,700 --> 02:19:57,160
John C Dvorak: I think there's a
donation in here from her. And

2430
02:19:57,160 --> 02:20:00,420
she sent us. I think she sent in
100 with the sword. Word, oh,

2431
02:20:00,420 --> 02:20:06,480
we'll mention it then yes. And
she, she has a website, which

2432
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:07,860
I'll go through Texas

2433
02:20:07,860 --> 02:20:08,580
Adam Curry: hot glass.

2434
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:13,620
John C Dvorak: And she makes the
most amazing if you're, if

2435
02:20:13,620 --> 02:20:17,640
you're smoke, if you're a dope
smoker.

2436
02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:22,340
Adam Curry: She's big on the
bongs. She makes bongs

2437
02:20:22,340 --> 02:20:26,720
John C Dvorak: that are just out
of this world. I mean, I, I

2438
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:29,420
should probably turn Scott Adams
onto her.

2439
02:20:29,660 --> 02:20:33,080
Adam Curry: Yes, there you go,
Scott Adams, but this long, but

2440
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:36,440
the sword is, it's it's
outrageous. How do you even make

2441
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:39,440
that? Does she have a mold or
something for that way

2442
02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:42,220
John C Dvorak: Jay, looked at
it, too. If you look at it, it's

2443
02:20:42,220 --> 02:20:45,280
a glass tube, you can see it,
but the handle is a part of the

2444
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:47,920
glass tube, so she makes, he
heats up the whole glass tube

2445
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:50,620
and then has a stamp that goes
at the end of it to make the

2446
02:20:50,620 --> 02:20:54,100
sword. It's a pretty phenomenal
product. I

2447
02:20:54,100 --> 02:20:56,860
Adam Curry: would love to shift
somebody with that thing. That

2448
02:20:56,860 --> 02:21:00,540
must be cool. Imagine how cool
the blood looks on that glass

2449
02:21:00,540 --> 02:21:05,880
blade is a fantastic and it's
sharp, sharp, amazing. Anyway,

2450
02:21:06,420 --> 02:21:09,480
please send me some jobs. Karma,
says a dame, bang, bang, as I'm

2451
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:12,420
looking for my next opportunity.
Thank you for all you do in

2452
02:21:12,420 --> 02:21:14,160
these crazy times, jobs,

2453
02:21:14,340 --> 02:21:18,540
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's go for jobs.

2454
02:21:21,660 --> 02:21:23,840
Adam Curry: We have the best
producers, we really do

2455
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:28,220
John C Dvorak: lot of creative
people, that's for sure. Dame

2456
02:21:28,220 --> 02:21:32,900
tammos comes in at 500 bucks.
Uh, she's a Parts Unknown to

2457
02:21:32,900 --> 02:21:36,440
have anything where she's from.
I can't tell send a nice card.

2458
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:39,380
It's a real card. And you can
tell because when you snap, it

2459
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:44,440
makes noise ITM please credit
this Commodore ship to my

2460
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:49,180
amazing husband, Dave McLean,
thanks for all the insight four

2461
02:21:49,180 --> 02:21:56,200
more years. And she said she
heard the call for post its and

2462
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,800
so she sent me a little pile of
post it notes. And once she does

2463
02:21:59,800 --> 02:22:04,020
want to jingle, it looks like
they're eating the dogs.

2464
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:09,120
Adam Curry: Anything I also see
here on the that she wants a

2465
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:12,960
business karma for Dave McLean
as he expands his engine

2466
02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:15,780
building business into grinding
cams.

2467
02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:18,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that came
in, I guess, as an email that,

2468
02:22:18,540 --> 02:22:20,180
because it's not on the note
here, all right,

2469
02:22:20,180 --> 02:22:22,760
Unknown: well, I'm gonna do
that. They're eating the dogs,

2470
02:22:22,760 --> 02:22:28,880
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You got it?

2471
02:22:30,140 --> 02:22:33,920
Adam Curry: Hey, and there's
Doug longenecker, who does end

2472
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:37,400
of show mixes and lives in
Georgetown, Texas, right outside

2473
02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:42,520
of Austin. 400 I'm decidedly
certain this puts me into sir

2474
02:22:42,580 --> 02:22:46,660
coved category. Night me sir
Doug of the watchers over the

2475
02:22:46,660 --> 02:22:50,260
mail in and possibly hacked
ballots. He says, I want

2476
02:22:50,260 --> 02:22:55,360
mccamala And Jeff bucharo to
serve me a a double Mac and

2477
02:22:55,360 --> 02:22:59,740
fries and mead at the drive thru
done. My brothers, Brian and

2478
02:22:59,740 --> 02:23:03,360
Brad are douche able for not
beating me to Sir status. That's

2479
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:10,440
Brian, and that's for Brad lame,
since they turned me on to the

2480
02:23:10,440 --> 02:23:14,880
show. Thank you to sir. Doug. To
Yes sir, Doug of the watchers

2481
02:23:14,880 --> 02:23:15,480
coming up.

2482
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:23,300
John C Dvorak: Ed Lyon in
downington, Pennsylvania. He has

2483
02:23:23,300 --> 02:23:26,720
a note he wrote in as a check.
You can tell when you snap it.

2484
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:31,520
He makes noise. 33342, no
jingles, no karma, no need to

2485
02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:35,180
read anything on the air. But I
will anyway, as I requested, all

2486
02:23:35,180 --> 02:23:38,720
I request is that you please put
Nathan Lyon on the birthday list

2487
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:43,120
as close to no October 30 as
possible. I think we can't get

2488
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:46,420
much closer than this a day
later. I think we put him in the

2489
02:23:46,420 --> 02:23:50,440
last but maybe he might have but
he's on, yeah? But Jay, push up.

2490
02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:53,740
Put him on again. Please wish
him an 11th birthday from his

2491
02:23:53,740 --> 02:23:56,500
dad, who thinks he's an amazing
kid. Lion is pronounced just

2492
02:23:56,500 --> 02:24:03,900
like the big cat. Yeah? Lion. Ed
lying. I'm Ed lying. Thank you

2493
02:24:03,900 --> 02:24:07,260
for all you do. Four more years,
etc. Hey, there's

2494
02:24:08,820 --> 02:24:11,940
Adam Curry: Dave master and Sir,
oh, Sir Mark the Archduchess and

2495
02:24:11,940 --> 02:24:15,420
arch Duke of Japan and all the
disputed islands in the Japan

2496
02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:20,840
Sea. And they see $333.33 Dear
John Adam, many congratulations

2497
02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:24,740
on 17 years of no agenda. You
give us such a buzz that we are

2498
02:24:24,740 --> 02:24:28,340
hooked on it and cannot imagine
being without it. We know four

2499
02:24:28,340 --> 02:24:31,400
more years is going to be tough
work, but hopefully the thought

2500
02:24:31,400 --> 02:24:33,920
of how many lives you are
constantly changing will keep

2501
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:38,420
you going. I'm sure hardcore no
agenda listeners will keep

2502
02:24:38,420 --> 02:24:41,800
donating to Well, you certainly
have for a long time, and we

2503
02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:44,980
love you for it. Much. Love to
you both the back office, no

2504
02:24:44,980 --> 02:24:48,100
agenda, family and to all the
producers from day master and

2505
02:24:48,100 --> 02:24:50,860
Sir Mark. Thank you, beautiful.
Good to hear from you guys in

2506
02:24:50,860 --> 02:24:51,820
Japan.

2507
02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:54,460
John C Dvorak: So we go to Ryan
Tierney north. What

2508
02:24:54,460 --> 02:24:56,500
Adam Curry: happened? What
happened to Gordon Gibson in

2509
02:24:56,500 --> 02:24:58,660
Kerrville? Ah,

2510
02:24:59,560 --> 02:25:02,460
John C Dvorak: good. I. Want to
read, to read the long note.

2511
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:07,740
Gordon Gibson in curry Ville,
Kerr Ville, Texas, 33333,

2512
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:12,120
nothing. There no note, no
nothing. Just a check for three,

2513
02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:16,980
three, 3.33. And that is, I
think, that came in from the

2514
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:21,140
meetup that you guys had so you
had no note. So he gets a double

2515
02:25:21,140 --> 02:25:21,620
up karma.

2516
02:25:21,980 --> 02:25:28,520
Adam Curry: He sure does. You've
got karma. Well, I don't know

2517
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:31,520
what long note you're talking
about, but Ryan Tiernan is in

2518
02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:37,280
North Providence, Rhode Island,
333 33 and he will become a

2519
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:41,920
knight, I believe. Let me see.
He also sent in a note, let me

2520
02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:47,980
see, yes, here it is. ITM John
and Adam, after completing my

2521
02:25:47,980 --> 02:25:51,580
layaway night program, helping
to produce show 1542, and with

2522
02:25:51,580 --> 02:25:54,580
this later producer donation of
333, dot 33 I'd like to

2523
02:25:54,580 --> 02:25:57,580
officially lay my claim to my
knighthood status. From this

2524
02:25:57,580 --> 02:26:00,640
point forward, I request to be
known as Sir dibbs on living

2525
02:26:00,820 --> 02:26:05,400
recreations, director of the
Chateau diff deep, he says as

2526
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:09,840
you pronounce it, diff, D,
apostrophe, if no jingles, but I

2527
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,420
would like a Karma switcheroo.
Undoubtedly, the knowledge of

2528
02:26:12,420 --> 02:26:15,540
the nation has benefited from
your sharp and insightful media

2529
02:26:15,540 --> 02:26:18,480
deconstruction. And I think they
would also benefit from checking

2530
02:26:18,480 --> 02:26:23,240
out a burgeoning musical talent,
Akira the dawn. A K, I R A

2531
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:26,300
setting, philosophers,
entertainers and scholars to

2532
02:26:26,300 --> 02:26:30,440
phenomenal tracks, including Joe
Rogan Alan, watch Charles Bucha

2533
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:33,620
and David Foster Wallace, to
name a few. If there was a route

2534
02:26:33,620 --> 02:26:38,180
much more of Polish, personally
impactful people I have never

2535
02:26:38,180 --> 02:26:42,520
met, crackpot buzzkill and Akira
the dawn would be on it. Thank

2536
02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:45,760
you for your courage. PS, I
would also like to formally

2537
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:49,240
enter the no agenda handwriting
contest. See the attached note,

2538
02:26:49,240 --> 02:26:52,600
and please send my bitcoin prize
money to the to the address on

2539
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:57,220
file. That is, yeah, that's very
interesting. Handwriting, very

2540
02:26:57,220 --> 02:27:03,180
nice, very pretty, that's for
sure. So karma switcheroo for

2541
02:27:03,180 --> 02:27:06,000
Akira the dawn. You've got
karma.

2542
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:10,680
John C Dvorak: So spooky
Halloween meet up in Western

2543
02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:16,860
Springs, Illinois. Switcheroo
for Sir Brian with a Y, uh, the

2544
02:27:16,860 --> 02:27:21,620
winner of this sir spooky
Halloween meetup, rally, a

2545
02:27:21,620 --> 02:27:25,160
raffle. Sorry, happy Halloween
to the best podcast in the

2546
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:29,720
universe. Jingle Obama, you
might die sucking in soot and

2547
02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:32,720
JCD, scary. Donate, you

2548
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:34,640
Unknown: might die sucking in
soot. Donate. Donate.

2549
02:27:42,860 --> 02:27:45,220
Me. Day

2550
02:27:45,220 --> 02:27:47,380
Adam Curry: two in a show. How
about that? Oh, here's the long

2551
02:27:47,380 --> 02:27:52,240
note, yes, I do get it from Kent
Kanata, Ontario, Canada, 333,

2552
02:27:53,140 --> 02:27:57,280
Olivia Dwyer, and she says, Dear
John Adam, this Commodore thing

2553
02:27:57,280 --> 02:27:59,680
really worked. I've been
listening for nine and a half

2554
02:27:59,680 --> 02:28:02,580
years. I've always wanted to
donate, but dedicating our lives

2555
02:28:02,580 --> 02:28:05,700
to an endeavor that is not
valued in this upside down world

2556
02:28:05,700 --> 02:28:10,560
meant that for years, my husband
and I used a cardboard box, a

2557
02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:13,740
cardboard apple box as a fridge
and the bottom of a cardboard

2558
02:28:13,740 --> 02:28:17,460
washing machine box as a kitchen
table and no internet for more

2559
02:28:17,460 --> 02:28:21,680
than seven years, not a joke. So
not much spare cash to go

2560
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:24,440
around. Not complaining. It is
felt rather like permanent

2561
02:28:24,440 --> 02:28:27,680
camping. Then I hear about your
Commodore promotion, and for the

2562
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:30,980
goodness knows what reason, I
become obsessed with wanting to

2563
02:28:30,980 --> 02:28:34,940
be one. Then bam, I suddenly
have the dollary dues to do. So

2564
02:28:34,940 --> 02:28:39,320
a miracle. This is beautiful.
Finally, able to give you both

2565
02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:43,000
back a tiny fraction of your
true value to me, this is the

2566
02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:45,580
may be a long though I don't
care. This is beautiful. Nine

2567
02:28:45,580 --> 02:28:48,940
and a half years never had money
to donate. Get some money.

2568
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:53,500
Donates it to the show, John,
thanks for responding to my plea

2569
02:28:53,500 --> 02:28:56,800
and allowing the now 509
australian dollar reduced

2570
02:28:56,800 --> 02:29:00,480
conversion to your 330 $3 plus
the extra few days for other

2571
02:29:00,480 --> 02:29:03,300
Australians to get their
Commodore ship in. May you be

2572
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:06,960
inundated. Please. Let me not be
the only Australian on the

2573
02:29:06,960 --> 02:29:13,080
podium. Please play Trump.
They're eating the dogs,

2574
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:18,840
followed by, I love his I love
cows. Oh boy. PS, I hope this

2575
02:29:18,840 --> 02:29:21,800
doesn't hurt the case to say
this giving you two's attitude

2576
02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:25,040
towards him, but I'm saying it
anyway. I have been a fan of

2577
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:28,820
that genius Francisco Scara
manga since his first days, and

2578
02:29:28,820 --> 02:29:31,580
could not understand why it took
so long for you to notice his

2579
02:29:31,580 --> 02:29:35,360
art. Many a time back then, did
I shake my fist at you two for

2580
02:29:35,360 --> 02:29:38,900
not choosing his work or even
mentioning it? Have to say,

2581
02:29:38,900 --> 02:29:41,800
though, that I'm not crazy about
the recent ish turn the

2582
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:45,880
cheesecake has taken. Ah, she
has a little bit of critique,

2583
02:29:45,880 --> 02:29:50,080
critique, just my two cents
worth. And my husband's too, by

2584
02:29:50,080 --> 02:29:55,000
the way, he's a Gen, a genuine
biological male. Well, good.

2585
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:59,320
Love you both. Lots happy to
hear that. Soon to be Commodore

2586
02:29:59,320 --> 02:30:03,840
Olivia Aaron. Of the Simo
simulacrum and all over

2587
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:08,100
Australia. Who? Okay, they're
eating the dogs. I

2588
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:09,480
Unknown: love cows. Yeah,

2589
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:12,480
Adam Curry: there you go. Hey.
Thanks. Olivia,

2590
02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:15,720
John C Dvorak: that's great.

2591
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:18,600
Adam Curry: I'll do this one.
Okay, because I'm drinking it

2592
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:19,080
today.

2593
02:30:19,380 --> 02:30:21,560
John C Dvorak: Eli, the coffee
I'm drinking too much. I might

2594
02:30:21,560 --> 02:30:22,460
say, What do you mean

2595
02:30:22,460 --> 02:30:24,800
Adam Curry: that's been a great
show in bensonville, Illinois,

2596
02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:29,540
210, two, $10.31 Associate
Executive producership. And Eli

2597
02:30:29,540 --> 02:30:32,000
says, and he's always every week
he comes in with Associate

2598
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:34,580
Executive Producer with less
than a week left in this phase

2599
02:30:34,580 --> 02:30:37,880
of election season, all of us in
Gitmo nation can agree on one

2600
02:30:37,880 --> 02:30:41,260
thing, regardless of political
affiliation, campaign ads are

2601
02:30:41,260 --> 02:30:45,520
annoying. No matter the outcome,
at least we won't be subjected

2602
02:30:45,520 --> 02:30:51,640
to them for another few years.
In Chicago, they have a saying,

2603
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:56,140
vote early and vote often. So
visit gigawatt, gigawatt Coffee

2604
02:30:56,140 --> 02:31:00,100
roasters.com and elect to drink
good coffee today. Don't forget

2605
02:31:00,100 --> 02:31:04,440
to use the code. ITM 20 for 20%
off your order. Stay caffeinated

2606
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:08,040
and happy. Halloween says Eli,
the coffee guy, I am drinking

2607
02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:11,820
his, uh, his dark roast right
now from, uh, forget what that

2608
02:31:11,820 --> 02:31:14,460
was from. It was very dark. It
was a specialty. It was like

2609
02:31:14,460 --> 02:31:20,100
sand, hmm, I forget what it's
from. It's good. He always sends

2610
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:20,840
me the good stuff.

2611
02:31:21,500 --> 02:31:24,440
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Enough
to P yo. Linda Lou patkins up.

2612
02:31:24,440 --> 02:31:26,840
She's in Lakewood, Colorado.
She's her last, uh, Associate

2613
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:29,420
Executive Producer. And of
course, she's asking for jobs

2614
02:31:29,420 --> 02:31:32,180
karma, which she does
consistently, for a resume she

2615
02:31:32,180 --> 02:31:34,820
writes that gets results. Go to
instrument image makers.

2616
02:31:34,820 --> 02:31:38,840
Inc.com, for all your executive
resume and job search needs.

2617
02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:43,420
That's image makers. Inc, with a
K or find Linda Lou Duchess of

2618
02:31:43,420 --> 02:31:47,560
jobs and writer of resumes on
the producer list, jobs,

2619
02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:51,760
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for

2620
02:31:52,900 --> 02:31:54,220
jobs. Karma.

2621
02:31:55,720 --> 02:31:58,000
Adam Curry: All right, no
agenda. Donations.com. Is where

2622
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:01,080
you can go to send your value
back time, talent, treasure. We

2623
02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:04,440
accept it all. We appreciate all
that everybody has done and

2624
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:08,040
continues to do on our 17th is
this now our 17th year, 18th

2625
02:32:08,100 --> 02:32:11,400
year. I can't remember how we're
into our 18th. Into our 18th

2626
02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:15,060
year, no agenda donations.com
We'll be thanking more

2627
02:32:15,060 --> 02:32:19,140
producers, $50 and above. And as
always, anybody can set up a

2628
02:32:19,140 --> 02:32:22,580
recurring donation. You go to no
agenda donations.com. You can

2629
02:32:22,580 --> 02:32:25,820
set it up frequency, the amount,
as you can tell you, you too can

2630
02:32:25,820 --> 02:32:28,580
eventually become a night or a
dame. It's very easy and it's

2631
02:32:28,580 --> 02:32:31,280
fun to do, and you support the
show again. Congrats to our

2632
02:32:31,280 --> 02:32:34,280
execs and Associate Executive
producers. Our

2633
02:32:34,280 --> 02:32:38,660
Unknown: formula is this, we go
out, we hit people in the mouth.

2634
02:32:38,660 --> 02:32:38,780
You

2635
02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:56,680
Adam Curry: Hey, I just wanted
to mention one thing about

2636
02:32:56,680 --> 02:33:04,140
CrowdStrike. You know, remember
David Boyce was was suing crowd

2637
02:33:04,140 --> 02:33:07,140
strike, and then delta was going
to sue crowd strike. Do you

2638
02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:09,840
remember any of this for that?
Oh, yeah, we remember that. All

2639
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:16,020
of a sudden, there was this very
odd update that happened. So Rob

2640
02:33:16,020 --> 02:33:21,980
the constitutional lawyer has
put this, this latest complaint,

2641
02:33:21,980 --> 02:33:25,880
I think this is from delta into
the show notes with his markups.

2642
02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:31,520
Listen to this crowd strike
forced, untested and faulty

2643
02:33:31,580 --> 02:33:36,380
updates to its customers, even
if you did not have automatic

2644
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:39,680
updates enabled, as delta did
not.

2645
02:33:41,420 --> 02:33:44,080
John C Dvorak: However, that's
that's, there you go. There's

2646
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:44,860
your loss waiting

2647
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:47,080
Adam Curry: to happen. They're
dead in the water with Delta

2648
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:50,560
estimates that it suffered over
$500 million in out of pocket

2649
02:33:50,560 --> 02:33:54,100
losses from the Fauci update, in
addition to future revenue and

2650
02:33:54,100 --> 02:33:57,940
severe harm and reputation and
goodwill. Yeah, you know, you

2651
02:33:57,940 --> 02:34:01,120
might as well say our CEO even
started wearing dresses. You

2652
02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:03,240
should throw that in there and
then maybe get some get some

2653
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:06,600
money for that. If CrowdStrike
had tested the Fauci update on

2654
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:09,240
even one computer before
deployment, the computer would

2655
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:12,840
have crashed. CrowdStrike
intentionally created and

2656
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:17,220
exploited an unauthorized door
within the Microsoft OS through

2657
02:34:17,220 --> 02:34:19,500
crowdstrikes Falcon software.

2658
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:23,180
Unknown: This is very damning.

2659
02:34:24,860 --> 02:34:27,260
That's not good. So

2660
02:34:27,380 --> 02:34:30,560
Adam Curry: even if you had
Automatic Updates disabled,

2661
02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:35,180
turned off, they still so that
forced it. And remember, this

2662
02:34:35,180 --> 02:34:39,080
came right after, right after
the Republican convention. Well,

2663
02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:43,660
John C Dvorak: there's something
like that's going to happen.

2664
02:34:43,780 --> 02:34:47,860
Apparently, in a couple of days,
when the grid goes down, better

2665
02:34:47,860 --> 02:34:51,460
fill up your bathroom. All hell
breaks loose. You better fill up

2666
02:34:51,460 --> 02:34:53,200
your bathtub. Fill up your tank.

2667
02:34:54,820 --> 02:34:56,920
Adam Curry: It's happening,
people, it's happening. We're

2668
02:34:56,920 --> 02:34:57,520
getting there.

2669
02:34:58,060 --> 02:35:00,240
John C Dvorak: I have to, I have
a couple horror stories. Wish I

2670
02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:03,480
got a horror. Horror first for
Halloween, horse

2671
02:35:03,540 --> 02:35:06,720
Adam Curry: of Halloween. Okay,
Halloween. Horror.

2672
02:35:07,380 --> 02:35:11,040
John C Dvorak: Here's play. Play
this clip, Jay walking. Jay

2673
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:11,580
walking

2674
02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:15,060
Unknown: and a common practice
has become the law of the land

2675
02:35:15,060 --> 02:35:19,080
in New York City, jaywalking is
now legal. What? City Council

2676
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:21,920
passed a bill last month
Allowing pedestrians to cross

2677
02:35:21,920 --> 02:35:25,940
the street at will. It became
law over the weekend, after time

2678
02:35:25,940 --> 02:35:30,260
ran out for Mayor Eric Adams to
veto the measure jaywalking used

2679
02:35:30,260 --> 02:35:34,520
to carry a fine of up to $250
and by one count, more than 90%

2680
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:38,660
of those targeted last year were
black and Latino. There are

2681
02:35:38,660 --> 02:35:41,500
concerns that the new measure
will lead to more pedestrian

2682
02:35:41,500 --> 02:35:44,020
deaths. But for many New
Yorkers, it's simply an

2683
02:35:44,020 --> 02:35:47,320
acknowledgement of life in the
busy city. Oh, that's

2684
02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:50,800
John C Dvorak: horrible. And now
that, if you think about the way

2685
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:54,580
this report structured, it's
going to be blacks and Latinos

2686
02:35:54,580 --> 02:35:55,660
that are killed.

2687
02:35:56,380 --> 02:35:59,500
Adam Curry: You know, it screws
up traffic. I used to drive into

2688
02:35:59,500 --> 02:36:05,640
Manhattan every single day for
12 years, and when people just

2689
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:09,840
cry. So I was that a hole with
the jersey license plates. If I

2690
02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:13,800
had the green light and you're
starting to cross, I'm like, I'm

2691
02:36:13,800 --> 02:36:16,920
hanging on the horn, like, no,
because you're crossing

2692
02:36:16,980 --> 02:36:21,080
illegally. It, you know when,
oh, it screws up traffic. This

2693
02:36:21,080 --> 02:36:26,720
is, this is really stupid.
Sounds like a technicality, but

2694
02:36:26,720 --> 02:36:30,920
oh boy, was it. Is this part of
liberal New York, I guess, is

2695
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:34,940
dumb. This is dumb. Bad idea.
Adams, I was just starting to

2696
02:36:34,940 --> 02:36:39,200
like him too, the mayor, the
mayor. We need the mayor. He's

2697
02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:41,740
John C Dvorak: probably busy
doing something else with

2698
02:36:41,740 --> 02:36:42,340
animus,

2699
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:45,700
Adam Curry: uh, maybe, maybe
it's the same guy.

2700
02:36:46,180 --> 02:36:49,120
John C Dvorak: So here's my
report. You can take it or leave

2701
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:54,160
it, but it's good to get to the
WTF clip. This is, uh, the

2702
02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:56,560
disgusting body traders.

2703
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:00,040
Adam Curry: You've been hanging
on to this for three shows.

2704
02:37:00,760 --> 02:37:02,100
Unknown: I love this clip,

2705
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:05,760
Adam Curry: okay, all we're
doing? Number one, yeah,

2706
02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:06,960
Unknown: last June, the

2707
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:10,800
morgue manager at Harvard
Medical School was arrested on

2708
02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:14,400
charges of stealing and
trafficking in human remains

2709
02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:18,240
that had been donated to
science. His arrest unraveled a

2710
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:23,480
nationwide network of bodies
traders. Member station W, b, u,

2711
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:28,100
r, dug into this case and ended
up exploring the world of legal

2712
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:33,500
remains trading in the podcast.
Last seen post mortem. Here's an

2713
02:37:33,500 --> 02:37:37,040
excerpt with host Ali jar
Manning and a warning this

2714
02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:39,920
segment contains descriptions of
human remains nice.

2715
02:37:40,940 --> 02:37:44,920
Couldn't believe how easy it was
to find human remains collectors

2716
02:37:44,920 --> 02:37:48,580
to talk to. I logged onto
Facebook and searched well

2717
02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:52,540
skulls, and I found a bunch of
Facebook groups specializing in

2718
02:37:52,540 --> 02:37:56,080
the oddities trade. I joined a
public group called real human

2719
02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:59,860
skulls, only, no scammer.
Despite the name, there are a

2720
02:37:59,860 --> 02:38:03,120
lot of scammers in this group,
people post stolen photos and

2721
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:06,900
try to get some cash. Some of
these posts, it looks like they

2722
02:38:06,900 --> 02:38:11,220
dug up a grave and snapped a
photo of the bones to sell. The

2723
02:38:11,220 --> 02:38:14,040
skulls are cracked and look
dirty. They don't have any

2724
02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:18,060
hardware that a medical specimen
would have. There are also more

2725
02:38:18,060 --> 02:38:21,860
legit listings too. So like
this. One says vintage, medical

2726
02:38:21,860 --> 02:38:26,960
grade, partial human noggin,
$450 plus, and then a picture of

2727
02:38:26,960 --> 02:38:32,000
a shirt so plus chippy. Some of
the listings spell human, H, O,

2728
02:38:32,000 --> 02:38:36,560
O, M, a n, to avoid getting
flagged. And instead of using

2729
02:38:36,560 --> 02:38:40,280
numbers to list the price, they
include emojis of the figures. I

2730
02:38:42,620 --> 02:38:46,120
do want joined another group,
this one called the serious wet

2731
02:38:46,120 --> 02:38:50,320
specimen collectors, buyers and
sellers group. This page is

2732
02:38:50,320 --> 02:38:55,300
filled with jars of preserved
organs, animals, reptiles. There

2733
02:38:55,300 --> 02:39:00,900
are dead puppies and kittens and
jars. Python with no eyes, a six

2734
02:39:00,960 --> 02:39:02,760
inch sea slug in a jar.

2735
02:39:03,180 --> 02:39:06,180
Adam Curry: Now this may
surprise you, but this, this jog

2736
02:39:06,180 --> 02:39:12,540
something in my memory. When I
was 1213, I think, and I don't,

2737
02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:16,920
I bought it off of some somebody
I don't remember I had, I had a

2738
02:39:16,920 --> 02:39:21,140
human skull. You had a skull.
They're worth 450 bucks. I know

2739
02:39:21,140 --> 02:39:24,800
I had a skull. Now, the jawbone
that they gave, that I bought

2740
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:27,920
with, it clearly wasn't the
right jawbone. It didn't quite

2741
02:39:27,920 --> 02:39:32,360
fit in right but I put little
LED, red LED lights in the eye

2742
02:39:32,360 --> 02:39:37,160
sockets, so at night, you know,
I could turn it on in my room. I

2743
02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:39,680
had a skull with with red eyes.

2744
02:39:39,980 --> 02:39:43,900
John C Dvorak: Wow. You could
easily become a goth, easily. I

2745
02:39:43,900 --> 02:39:47,380
Adam Curry: was, I was ska, for
sure, but goth was not my thing,

2746
02:39:47,620 --> 02:39:50,800
so back then. But, you know,
people like, hey, that's cool.

2747
02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:53,440
It wasn't seen as gruesome. I
recall. It's like, I just had a,

2748
02:39:53,440 --> 02:39:56,980
it was kind of a small head.
Maybe it was, it was a young

2749
02:39:56,980 --> 02:39:58,660
person. Well,

2750
02:39:58,660 --> 02:40:01,680
John C Dvorak: as we as we go.
To the collector's world, which

2751
02:40:01,680 --> 02:40:05,880
she goes into next. They don't
think it's gruesome either.

2752
02:40:06,060 --> 02:40:06,420
There

2753
02:40:06,420 --> 02:40:09,780
Unknown: are human specimens
too, human, wet specimen of a

2754
02:40:09,780 --> 02:40:13,020
child's tongue, windpipe, heart
and lungs, who passed away

2755
02:40:13,020 --> 02:40:15,000
tragically from choking on a
marble.

2756
02:40:18,360 --> 02:40:19,680
This bullcrap all my

2757
02:40:19,680 --> 02:40:23,000
clicking around leads me to a
page for something called the

2758
02:40:23,000 --> 02:40:28,160
ossuary. The description says we
ensure a safe home and dignified

2759
02:40:28,160 --> 02:40:32,660
transition for prior medical
specimens and cremains. I reach

2760
02:40:32,660 --> 02:40:36,260
out to the couple that runs it
just in caps and Sonya Cobb, and

2761
02:40:36,260 --> 02:40:39,320
they are more than happy for me
to come visit them at their home

2762
02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:43,960
in Smyrna, Delaware, Justin and
Sonia don't have any connection

2763
02:40:44,020 --> 02:40:47,200
to the thefts at Harvard, but I
want to talk to them and those

2764
02:40:47,200 --> 02:40:51,100
like them, because they're part
of the demand for human remains,

2765
02:40:51,280 --> 02:40:55,120
and that demand causes people
like Cedric lodge to allegedly

2766
02:40:55,120 --> 02:40:59,740
find the supply. So I want to
understand why they do this, and

2767
02:40:59,740 --> 02:41:05,400
how it's dark. When I arrive,
I'm meeting Justin and Sonya at

2768
02:41:05,400 --> 02:41:08,700
dinner time. They're night
shifters. Sonya works in long

2769
02:41:08,700 --> 02:41:12,480
term care as a nurse. Justin is
an ordained minister, and he

2770
02:41:12,480 --> 02:41:15,540
keeps sonya's hours. So I'm
catching them at the beginning

2771
02:41:15,540 --> 02:41:18,960
of their day. Their neighborhood
of newish single family homes

2772
02:41:18,960 --> 02:41:23,300
and duplexes is tucked away off
a busy road. I spot their house.

2773
02:41:25,760 --> 02:41:31,040
His car's license plate says
skulls other than the license

2774
02:41:31,040 --> 02:41:33,560
plate, the house looks pretty
typical in this little

2775
02:41:33,560 --> 02:41:41,020
subdivision, until I step
inside. Wow, right away. You

2776
02:41:41,020 --> 02:41:45,760
can't miss it. My eyes
immediately drift under the TV,

2777
02:41:45,760 --> 02:41:49,900
where a skeleton rests on its
back in a glass box, glowing

2778
02:41:49,900 --> 02:41:53,260
under black light across the
room, next to the overstuffed

2779
02:41:53,260 --> 02:41:57,220
leather couch. Another skeleton
hangs in an upright coffin. A

2780
02:41:57,220 --> 02:42:00,240
spinal column lamp sits on a
table. This

2781
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:04,020
Adam Curry: is, this is a
podcast that you've chopped up

2782
02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:05,220
into bits.

2783
02:42:06,660 --> 02:42:09,180
John C Dvorak: I didn't chop up
this into anything.

2784
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:12,720
Adam Curry: Where did this come
from? NPR,

2785
02:42:13,020 --> 02:42:15,600
oh, as I said, it's a podcast.

2786
02:42:17,820 --> 02:42:20,820
John C Dvorak: But they said it,
they introduced it as a podcast.

2787
02:42:20,820 --> 02:42:23,300
If you remember the fur from the
first clip? No, I can't

2788
02:42:23,300 --> 02:42:26,240
Adam Curry: remember. I'm so
distracted by this, this narrow

2789
02:42:26,240 --> 02:42:27,920
narration. Well,

2790
02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:31,160
John C Dvorak: that's because
what was the one that started

2791
02:42:31,160 --> 02:42:34,580
this serial? Yeah, I know
they're walking around and

2792
02:42:34,580 --> 02:42:35,780
describing what they're doing.

2793
02:42:35,780 --> 02:42:38,120
Adam Curry: Why don't you just
say people go subscribe to this

2794
02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:41,140
podcast, wherever you get your
podcasts. No, she

2795
02:42:42,340 --> 02:42:44,440
John C Dvorak: said this was
from a podcast. This is we're

2796
02:42:44,440 --> 02:42:47,680
listening to a podcast, okay?
That was edited by somebody, but

2797
02:42:47,680 --> 02:42:48,160
not by

2798
02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:49,360
Unknown: me. All right,

2799
02:42:51,100 --> 02:42:53,140
John C Dvorak: is that the end
of that part? Yes, oh, there's

2800
02:42:53,140 --> 02:42:57,700
Adam Curry: two podcasts.
Amazing, amazing. It's riveting.

2801
02:42:57,700 --> 02:42:58,060
I haven't

2802
02:42:58,060 --> 02:43:00,540
Unknown: even turned to my left
and my right yet, where two

2803
02:43:00,540 --> 02:43:03,840
pairs of skeletons flank the
front hall. This is not really a

2804
02:43:03,840 --> 02:43:06,300
living room anymore. It's been
turned over to the skeletons

2805
02:43:06,360 --> 02:43:15,480
pretty much standing here. I
count 123456, full skeletons, my

2806
02:43:15,480 --> 02:43:20,420
coffin table. Oh, wow. Justin
lifts the lid of the coffee. I

2807
02:43:20,420 --> 02:43:24,800
mean coffin table to reveal the
seventh skeleton in the room. So

2808
02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:29,300
this was an antique coffin 1860s
that we sent to the Smyrna

2809
02:43:29,300 --> 02:43:33,140
prison because they have a wood
shop department, and they redid

2810
02:43:33,140 --> 02:43:36,620
this and put the legs on it and
made it into a coffin table for

2811
02:43:36,620 --> 02:43:37,460
us. And

2812
02:43:37,460 --> 02:43:40,720
this was the coffin that
skeleton came in. Yeah, it was

2813
02:43:40,720 --> 02:43:41,440
stored in this

2814
02:43:41,740 --> 02:43:44,200
Yes, that was, that was the deal
with the coffin, or the

2815
02:43:44,200 --> 02:43:47,500
skeletons. When they came, they
were all stored in antique

2816
02:43:47,500 --> 02:43:52,840
coffins, with antique coffins.
So when they Justin and

2817
02:43:52,840 --> 02:43:55,900
Sonia don't have all these
remains as a gag or so, they can

2818
02:43:55,900 --> 02:43:58,180
live in some kind of haunted
house, and they don't see

2819
02:43:58,180 --> 02:44:00,280
themselves as collectors at all.

2820
02:44:00,460 --> 02:44:05,340
Hate no saying that we collect
remains, even though we collect,

2821
02:44:05,340 --> 02:44:10,080
in the sense that we gather and
not that we collect, because

2822
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:14,760
we're morbidly you don't want to
have a house full of bones. I

2823
02:44:14,760 --> 02:44:18,000
didn't wake up and go, you know
it. I think bones are something

2824
02:44:18,000 --> 02:44:20,900
I want to play with. This was
something I was called to do

2825
02:44:21,020 --> 02:44:24,740
people rescue puppies and
kittens, and we rescue medical

2826
02:44:24,740 --> 02:44:29,240
specimens, these items, people,
they were lost to time.

2827
02:44:29,780 --> 02:44:32,420
Adam Curry: Please tell me that
the last clip ends with them

2828
02:44:32,420 --> 02:44:35,060
doing some weird sex stuff
around the bones.

2829
02:44:35,060 --> 02:44:37,640
John C Dvorak: You know. The
thing is, please, these are

2830
02:44:37,640 --> 02:44:45,580
hoarders. Yes, of collectors, or
classic collectors in denial. As

2831
02:44:45,580 --> 02:44:49,240
as an archivist, I can tell you
the background on this. There

2832
02:44:49,240 --> 02:44:53,080
are, they're, they're hoarders
in denial, and they're and they

2833
02:44:53,080 --> 02:44:56,800
think this is normal, and I
can't imagine something ever

2834
02:44:56,800 --> 02:44:59,680
getting anyone to come over for
dinner. For example, you.

2835
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:03,960
Adam Curry: Who needs dinner
guests when you can have NPR

2836
02:45:03,960 --> 02:45:05,940
show up at your house? Well,

2837
02:45:05,940 --> 02:45:08,280
John C Dvorak: they were
welcomed because to nobody else

2838
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:12,720
ever would go there. But let's
listen to the WTF part of this.

2839
02:45:12,720 --> 02:45:14,040
This is clip four.

2840
02:45:14,280 --> 02:45:16,140
Unknown: This journey all
started with

2841
02:45:16,140 --> 02:45:19,320
Tyler. Yeah. He said, geriatrics
fell he has one tooth.

2842
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:22,220
Oh yeah, one little molar. I
fell in love

2843
02:45:22,220 --> 02:45:24,740
with him. He was geriatric. I
worked in hospice. It was

2844
02:45:24,740 --> 02:45:25,700
perfect.

2845
02:45:25,940 --> 02:45:29,060
They found Tyler in an oddity
shop they often visited. He

2846
02:45:29,060 --> 02:45:31,820
wasn't for sale. He was just
decoration. He

2847
02:45:31,820 --> 02:45:34,820
was smiling at me. I don't know
what it was, he looks

2848
02:45:34,820 --> 02:45:36,500
happy, doesn't he looked happy

2849
02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:41,020
when COVID hit and the store
closed. Justin wanted to help

2850
02:45:41,020 --> 02:45:45,100
out the owner, and offered a
loan of $1,200 he took Tyler as

2851
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:49,840
collateral. The owner never paid
back the loan, and Tyler sparked

2852
02:45:49,840 --> 02:45:52,180
something for Justin and Sonia.
They

2853
02:45:52,180 --> 02:45:56,140
got Tyler for me, and then I
said I needed a whole skeleton

2854
02:45:56,140 --> 02:45:56,920
for the coroner.

2855
02:45:57,100 --> 02:46:00,840
From there, Justin got to work
looking for how to get Sonya her

2856
02:46:00,840 --> 02:46:05,220
skeleton. Websites like skulls
unlimited sell human skeletons

2857
02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:10,260
for upwards of 7200 bucks. But
Justin and Sonia didn't believe

2858
02:46:10,260 --> 02:46:12,660
buying a human was morally
right.

2859
02:46:12,780 --> 02:46:15,360
These are former people. These
were someone's parents,

2860
02:46:15,360 --> 02:46:18,780
someone's children, brothers,
sisters. They need a little bit

2861
02:46:18,780 --> 02:46:20,040
more respect than they're given.

2862
02:46:20,460 --> 02:46:23,780
Justin kept hunting, and he
found a fraternal organization.

2863
02:46:23,900 --> 02:46:27,140
He won't say which one that was
looking to offload skeletons

2864
02:46:27,200 --> 02:46:30,800
they'd been using for rituals,
and that's how Justin and Sonia

2865
02:46:30,860 --> 02:46:33,260
ended up with seven skeletons in
their living room.

2866
02:46:33,320 --> 02:46:36,080
Adam Curry: Well, wait a minute,
where's the where's the ritual

2867
02:46:36,080 --> 02:46:36,680
clip?

2868
02:46:38,120 --> 02:46:41,440
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
what rituals we're talking

2869
02:46:41,440 --> 02:46:44,320
about. What group was this? They
won't name the group. They won't

2870
02:46:44,320 --> 02:46:47,440
tell us the ritual. I think
it's, it's, I think it's some

2871
02:46:47,440 --> 02:46:49,480
cult. Could be the Democrat
party.

2872
02:46:49,780 --> 02:46:50,680
Unknown: Hey, oh,

2873
02:46:50,800 --> 02:46:53,260
John C Dvorak: that could be
cosmic. That's,

2874
02:46:53,320 --> 02:46:56,740
Adam Curry: that's comet. That's
your shaggy bone. The shaggy

2875
02:46:56,740 --> 02:46:57,640
bone, Shaggy Dog,

2876
02:46:58,000 --> 02:47:00,840
John C Dvorak: this my shaggy
bone story. Hey, babe, want

2877
02:47:00,840 --> 02:47:04,740
Adam Curry: to see my bone. Come
on, man, no, Comet pizza.

2878
02:47:06,780 --> 02:47:08,580
John C Dvorak: Just, I don't
understand why you don't think

2879
02:47:08,580 --> 02:47:12,060
this is the funniest series of
clips I've ever given you. So,

2880
02:47:12,720 --> 02:47:15,480
okay, there's a wrap up clip.
Doesn't really have wait,

2881
02:47:15,480 --> 02:47:16,500
Adam Curry: there's more,

2882
02:47:17,460 --> 02:47:20,100
John C Dvorak: does I think a
fifth, yeah, just a kind of a

2883
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:21,740
denouement. Their

2884
02:47:21,740 --> 02:47:26,120
Unknown: goal eventually is to
open a real ossuary, a building

2885
02:47:26,120 --> 02:47:30,200
filled with human bones. They're
thinking a church where people

2886
02:47:30,200 --> 02:47:33,380
could visit and maybe get
married and see the final

2887
02:47:33,380 --> 02:47:37,760
resting place for forgotten
remains. They know it sounds

2888
02:47:37,760 --> 02:47:41,140
kind of weird when I was telling
people this is what I'm doing

2889
02:47:41,140 --> 02:47:44,140
this week. I'm going to visit
some folks who rescue human

2890
02:47:44,140 --> 02:47:51,640
remains. They were like, What
the So? Like, what do you say to

2891
02:47:51,700 --> 02:47:54,280
what do you how do you explain
to people? Like,

2892
02:47:54,700 --> 02:47:58,300
get to know someone like us
first. This is honestly not just

2893
02:47:58,300 --> 02:48:02,220
unique, but it's it's it's
trailblazing, it's different.

2894
02:48:02,220 --> 02:48:06,180
It's something nobody's ever
really seen before, and we have

2895
02:48:06,180 --> 02:48:10,440
the opportunity to do something
wild, crazy and cool. And you're

2896
02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:13,020
standing here in my living room
seeing this yourself, there's

2897
02:48:13,020 --> 02:48:16,980
nothing gross here. There's no
blood, no guts and no gore. This

2898
02:48:16,980 --> 02:48:19,800
isn't set up like Halloween or
something. You're not coming in

2899
02:48:19,800 --> 02:48:21,080
here to be and it really isn't.

2900
02:48:21,200 --> 02:48:24,920
It's tasteful. It's great the
skeletons are in glass display

2901
02:48:24,920 --> 02:48:29,360
boxes or hanging in coffins.
They all have names. It's almost

2902
02:48:29,420 --> 02:48:33,860
museum like. I'm not grossed out
by it at all. I'm more

2903
02:48:33,920 --> 02:48:38,120
intrigued. I'm interested in
their interest in it all. I do

2904
02:48:38,120 --> 02:48:42,220
wonder, though, how different
are Justin and Sonia than any

2905
02:48:42,220 --> 02:48:43,180
other collectors,

2906
02:48:44,320 --> 02:48:45,760
John C Dvorak: a lot different.

2907
02:48:45,820 --> 02:48:48,400
Adam Curry: Do you? You know
what they should? Should give to

2908
02:48:48,400 --> 02:48:56,260
kids for Halloween, soup super
as the pod father, I denounce

2909
02:48:56,260 --> 02:48:59,920
this podcast. It shall be taken
out of the index.

2910
02:49:01,600 --> 02:49:05,520
John C Dvorak: The thing is,
it's like, I think that they got

2911
02:49:05,520 --> 02:49:08,760
that original skull and they and
they got, I think it was a

2912
02:49:08,760 --> 02:49:11,880
twilight zone, like episode,
there's something about it that

2913
02:49:11,940 --> 02:49:15,720
that infected them. And now this
poor podcaster goes into things

2914
02:49:15,780 --> 02:49:19,260
she thinks this is normal and
tasteful. Are you kidding me?

2915
02:49:20,160 --> 02:49:24,080
Unknown: All right. Thanks. So

2916
02:49:24,080 --> 02:49:26,300
John C Dvorak: that's my
Halloween Yes, kids, yeah,

2917
02:49:26,300 --> 02:49:29,540
Adam Curry: that's great. We hey
you honestly, I was looking at

2918
02:49:29,540 --> 02:49:33,200
the troll room. This sick bunch
would thought it was great.

2919
02:49:33,740 --> 02:49:34,760
John C Dvorak: Of course they
did.

2920
02:49:35,660 --> 02:49:37,400
Adam Curry: They thought it was
great. Everybody

2921
02:49:37,400 --> 02:49:38,540
John C Dvorak: liked it. But you

2922
02:49:41,600 --> 02:49:44,920
Adam Curry: all right, I need to
do a couple of clips about DTCC.

2923
02:49:44,920 --> 02:49:50,620
That's what I'm calling. It, not
DTCC. What DTC? It's an acronym,

2924
02:49:50,620 --> 02:49:51,640
DTCC.

2925
02:49:52,780 --> 02:49:55,060
John C Dvorak: Oh, I thought
you'd get deranged. Trump

2926
02:49:55,060 --> 02:50:00,360
condition characters due to
climate change. I. Oh,

2927
02:50:01,500 --> 02:50:04,800
Unknown: millions of spectators,
10s of 1000s of first time

2928
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:08,100
runners braving the course, and
a handful of elite athletes

2929
02:50:08,100 --> 02:50:10,980
fighting for first place.
They're all hoping for one thing

2930
02:50:10,980 --> 02:50:13,380
come race day, perfect weather.
Obviously

2931
02:50:13,380 --> 02:50:17,040
we're looking for, you know,
morning lows in those 30s and 40

2932
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:19,920
degrees with hopefully not
creeping up much more than the

2933
02:50:19,920 --> 02:50:23,000
mid 50s. I think if you're
looking up a lot there, 5253

2934
02:50:23,660 --> 02:50:25,700
degrees seems to be like the
ideal temp,

2935
02:50:26,300 --> 02:50:29,540
that crisp air, still highly
sought after by runners may not

2936
02:50:29,540 --> 02:50:32,480
stick around for marathons of
the future, as our climate

2937
02:50:32,480 --> 02:50:32,900
changes,

2938
02:50:34,700 --> 02:50:36,920
Adam Curry: so it's perfect
weather for the marathon,

2939
02:50:36,920 --> 02:50:39,080
perfect weather. But

2940
02:50:40,460 --> 02:50:43,060
Unknown: on average, New York
City experiences a week and a

2941
02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:47,140
half more of above normal fall
days as compared to 1970 and

2942
02:50:47,140 --> 02:50:49,180
that has a serious effect on
runners. If you're

2943
02:50:49,180 --> 02:50:52,600
going to have the average go up
when you have that warm marathon

2944
02:50:52,720 --> 02:50:55,900
a degree or two, especially when
you look at humidity, like the

2945
02:50:55,900 --> 02:50:58,960
amount of moisture that's in the
air, and that is shifting as

2946
02:50:58,960 --> 02:51:02,700
well the amount of moisture that
more American hold that's going

2947
02:51:02,700 --> 02:51:05,640
to change how people sweat, how
they evaporate sweat, and then

2948
02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:08,700
how they finish a race.
Sustainable steps

2949
02:51:08,700 --> 02:51:11,700
like raising funds to offset the
marathon's carbon emissions,

2950
02:51:11,820 --> 02:51:15,060
using solar generators to power
tents, and taking the Staten

2951
02:51:15,060 --> 02:51:18,000
Island Ferry to the starting
line, all brand new initiatives

2952
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:21,380
organizers are taking with the
goal of being net zero by 2040

2953
02:51:22,820 --> 02:51:26,120
will allow millions of runners
from around the world to race

2954
02:51:26,120 --> 02:51:28,160
through all five boroughs for
years to come due

2955
02:51:28,160 --> 02:51:32,240
Adam Curry: to climate change.
So okay, so thank you for that

2956
02:51:32,240 --> 02:51:39,020
nonsense New York ABC, but wait,
but wait we this is because cop

2957
02:51:39,020 --> 02:51:43,780
16 is now underway in Colombia.
So the big, the big Climate

2958
02:51:43,780 --> 02:51:47,020
Change Conference. So, Oh,
that's right, climate change?

2959
02:51:47,020 --> 02:51:51,280
Yeah, we got, got some stories,
any studies come out? Yeah, I

2960
02:51:51,280 --> 02:51:52,120
got a study, a

2961
02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:55,300
Unknown: new report, reveals
record breaking health impacts

2962
02:51:55,300 --> 02:51:59,380
due to shifts in climate more
than 120 scientists across the

2963
02:51:59,380 --> 02:52:03,000
globe, every country is facing
human health and survival

2964
02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:07,560
threats. There's been a 167%
increase in heat related deaths

2965
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:11,340
since the 1990s millions of
people have experienced food

2966
02:52:11,340 --> 02:52:15,060
insecurity because of heat waves
and droughts. The report shows

2967
02:52:15,060 --> 02:52:18,840
people were exposed to 50 or
more days of health threatening

2968
02:52:18,840 --> 02:52:22,100
temperatures around the world
last year, people's capacity

2969
02:52:22,100 --> 02:52:25,940
to work outdoors is increasingly
limited, and the health of

2970
02:52:25,940 --> 02:52:30,740
workers is putting is being put
at risk. It's affecting the very

2971
02:52:30,740 --> 02:52:34,220
foundations of good health, of
well being, of healthy

2972
02:52:34,280 --> 02:52:38,180
livelihoods. And we know that
climate change is the biggest

2973
02:52:38,180 --> 02:52:41,440
threat that we're facing in the
short and long term to our

2974
02:52:41,440 --> 02:52:42,040
health.

2975
02:52:42,220 --> 02:52:45,520
That report published in The
Lancet found heat related deaths

2976
02:52:45,520 --> 02:52:49,120
are most likely to one day
exceed cold related deaths

2977
02:52:49,120 --> 02:52:50,680
due to climate change.

2978
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:53,140
Adam Curry: So we're all going
to die from climate change. And

2979
02:52:53,140 --> 02:52:59,200
then a sad report, but also a
huge lie about this, this

2980
02:52:59,200 --> 02:53:04,320
flooding in Valencia in Spain.
This is This is unbelievable.

2981
02:53:05,520 --> 02:53:08,880
Unknown: Residents of the small
Valencian town were in shock

2982
02:53:08,880 --> 02:53:12,480
Wednesday morning, a day after
torrential rain caused the

2983
02:53:12,480 --> 02:53:17,040
ravine to overflow its banks.
The sudden downpour led to

2984
02:53:17,040 --> 02:53:20,960
widespread flooding, damage to
infrastructure and incalculable

2985
02:53:20,960 --> 02:53:22,520
material losses.

2986
02:53:22,640 --> 02:53:26,240
Never before in history has
there been so much rain. You

2987
02:53:26,240 --> 02:53:30,920
can't even imagine the amount of
rain that fell here yesterday.

2988
02:53:31,640 --> 02:53:33,320
It's a catastrophe.

2989
02:53:33,440 --> 02:53:36,860
The floods we had in 1982 when I
was 10 years old, were a joke

2990
02:53:36,920 --> 02:53:38,660
compared to what happened here
yesterday,

2991
02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:42,880
with dozens dead and the death
toll expected to increase. The

2992
02:53:42,880 --> 02:53:46,360
Spanish parliament observed a
minute of silence on Wednesday

2993
02:53:46,480 --> 02:53:50,560
for victims of the catastrophe.
Scientists warn that extreme

2994
02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:54,220
weather such as heat waves and
storms is becoming more intense

2995
02:53:54,220 --> 02:53:57,460
as a result of human induced
climate change. Due to climate

2996
02:53:57,460 --> 02:53:58,480
change, this

2997
02:53:58,540 --> 02:54:04,620
Adam Curry: is bull crap, one if
Wikipedia even has this in 1957

2998
02:54:05,580 --> 02:54:11,460
the 1957 Valencia flood was a
natural disaster that occurred

2999
02:54:11,460 --> 02:54:16,860
on october 14. 1957 the flood
resulted in significant damage

3000
02:54:16,860 --> 02:54:20,900
to property. Caused the deaths
of at least 81 people, only

3001
02:54:20,900 --> 02:54:24,920
about 10 times as much as this
one. In response to the tragedy,

3002
02:54:24,920 --> 02:54:28,040
the Spanish government devised
and enacted the plan sewer,

3003
02:54:28,220 --> 02:54:31,160
which rerouted the city's main
river the one that just

3004
02:54:31,160 --> 02:54:35,780
overflowed. Good Good work. A
large number of floods have been

3005
02:54:35,780 --> 02:54:41,920
recorded in Valencia, from 1321,
to 1897 up to 75 floods are

3006
02:54:41,920 --> 02:54:46,300
estimated to have taken place in
the seven centuries prior to the

3007
02:54:46,300 --> 02:54:50,980
1957 flood. This is cyclical
people due to climate change,

3008
02:54:50,980 --> 02:54:54,820
and they're just scamming us
with this stuff. It kind of irks

3009
02:54:54,820 --> 02:54:59,680
me, I guess so. And the best
though, Nike, by the way, this

3010
02:54:59,680 --> 02:55:00,720
John C Dvorak: was. Everything,

3011
02:55:00,780 --> 02:55:03,540
Adam Curry: yeah, oh yeah, oh
no, I know. Just, let's

3012
02:55:03,540 --> 02:55:04,860
John C Dvorak: leave out the
facts.

3013
02:55:05,640 --> 02:55:09,960
Adam Curry: It's fact light with
no evidence. So this was a great

3014
02:55:09,960 --> 02:55:12,840
story, though. Then this is my
final climate due to climate

3015
02:55:12,840 --> 02:55:16,620
change, the Nike Air sneakers.
You remember that, that

3016
02:55:16,620 --> 02:55:19,860
revolution of the Nike Air
sneakers where you, oh yeah,

3017
02:55:19,860 --> 02:55:21,140
pumped air into it.

3018
02:55:21,380 --> 02:55:23,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you pumped
them up. So

3019
02:55:23,780 --> 02:55:26,060
Adam Curry: it wasn't actually
air.

3020
02:55:27,500 --> 02:55:29,660
Unknown: It was a gas.

3021
02:55:30,980 --> 02:55:35,780
Adam Curry: It was, I'm trying
to see what was it called? They

3022
02:55:35,780 --> 02:55:41,680
had, it was sulfur hexafluoride.
Oh, that's interesting, which is

3023
02:55:41,680 --> 02:55:45,640
a very it's, according to this
article, the planet's most

3024
02:55:45,640 --> 02:55:52,000
powerful greenhouse gas, 24,000
times more potent than carbon

3025
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:56,320
dioxide. So they learned about
this, and then they went, oh,

3026
02:55:56,320 --> 02:56:02,940
oh. And in 2006 they eliminated
this horrible heat trapping gas

3027
02:56:02,940 --> 02:56:08,400
from its shoes, and decided
instead to go to a new

3028
02:56:08,400 --> 02:56:17,400
substance. What was the gas
substitution? I think they now

3029
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:22,760
it's just air, but they turned
this into a $700 million

3030
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:29,720
boondoggle by getting carbon
credits for removing the

3031
02:56:29,720 --> 02:56:34,460
hexafluoride from the from the
Air Jordans. Oh, that's funny.

3032
02:56:34,880 --> 02:56:39,440
Isn't that amazing? Yeah, it's a
good bit. $700 million create a

3033
02:56:39,440 --> 02:56:39,920
problem,

3034
02:56:39,920 --> 02:56:41,960
John C Dvorak: and then get rid
of the problem, and then get

3035
02:56:41,960 --> 02:56:44,680
credit for getting get credit
for getting rid of the problem

3036
02:56:44,680 --> 02:56:47,200
that you should you created in
the first place due to climate

3037
02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:47,740
change. What

3038
02:56:47,740 --> 02:56:49,900
Adam Curry: a scam. This is,
what a scam.

3039
02:56:50,080 --> 02:56:50,680
Unknown: It's a scam.

3040
02:56:52,240 --> 02:56:53,980
Adam Curry: Like, like, we
didn't know it was a scam, but I

3041
02:56:53,980 --> 02:56:55,180
just have to stay on it.

3042
02:57:01,480 --> 02:57:07,620
Oh, this is kind of important,
because it's, it is a it's a

3043
02:57:07,620 --> 02:57:08,580
moment for

3044
02:57:09,900 --> 02:57:11,040
Unknown: a native ad

3045
02:57:12,420 --> 02:57:16,680
for too many eggs.com. An egg
Spearman with promising results

3046
02:57:16,680 --> 02:57:20,900
at Harvard, medical student
eating 720 eggs in one month,

3047
02:57:21,140 --> 02:57:25,880
finding that his cholesterol
levels actually dipped 20% here

3048
02:57:25,880 --> 02:57:30,020
to discuss his Fox News Medical
contributor, Dr Nicole sapphire,

3049
02:57:30,260 --> 02:57:34,760
so Dr Nicole and I both have new
chicken coops, so we're big on

3050
02:57:35,000 --> 02:57:39,800
eggs, but I'm about moderation
720, eggs. Crazy, but

3051
02:57:39,800 --> 02:57:42,160
interesting, that is, his
cholesterol dipped.

3052
02:57:42,220 --> 02:57:44,380
Yeah. Well, good morning,
Rachel. And the big thing that

3053
02:57:44,380 --> 02:57:46,840
comes out of this study is,
first of all, I do not suggest

3054
02:57:46,840 --> 02:57:49,180
anybody does extreme studies
like this, but it is

3055
02:57:49,180 --> 02:57:52,300
interesting. So let's look at it
a little bit. He had a very

3056
02:57:52,300 --> 02:57:55,240
large consumption of eggs over a
month's period, and his

3057
02:57:55,240 --> 02:57:58,780
cholesterol actually dropped 20%
now, why is that? Well, the

3058
02:57:58,780 --> 02:58:02,100
truth is, he did change his diet
a little bit differently, but

3059
02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:05,820
the big take home here is that
everyone's body is different,

3060
02:58:05,820 --> 02:58:08,280
and what may be good for one
person may not be good for

3061
02:58:08,280 --> 02:58:11,820
someone else. My big take home
just like you, I'm a huge

3062
02:58:11,820 --> 02:58:14,700
supporter of eggs. I think it is
great for your overall health,

3063
02:58:14,700 --> 02:58:18,660
especially your brain health. It
has choline in it, but

3064
02:58:18,660 --> 02:58:21,860
everything in moderation, and so
some people are predisposed to

3065
02:58:21,860 --> 02:58:24,320
high level of cholesterol
because it's in their DNA. It's

3066
02:58:24,320 --> 02:58:26,420
in their genes, and there's
nothing they can do about it.

3067
02:58:26,600 --> 02:58:29,600
And so those people, especially
those who have diabetes, you

3068
02:58:29,600 --> 02:58:33,020
know, eating a large amount of
eggs can actually have negative

3069
02:58:33,020 --> 02:58:35,780
impacts on their health, but the
majority of overwhelming

3070
02:58:35,780 --> 02:58:38,720
research does show that up to
about seven eggs a week, not

3071
02:58:38,720 --> 02:58:41,060
only isn't bad for your health,
but it's probably really good

3072
02:58:41,060 --> 02:58:43,300
for your health. It decreases
the risk of dying. Risk of

3073
02:58:43,300 --> 02:58:46,000
dementia and decreases your risk
of stroke. So eat your eggs.

3074
02:58:46,000 --> 02:58:46,540
Guys,

3075
02:58:46,660 --> 02:58:49,900
Adam Curry: eat your eggs. Too
many eggs.com. Too many

3076
02:58:49,900 --> 02:58:52,540
eggs.com. You know this, I

3077
02:58:52,540 --> 02:58:53,740
John C Dvorak: have a raw egg.

3078
02:58:54,760 --> 02:58:56,020
Unknown: Are you eating it now?
On

3079
02:58:56,020 --> 02:58:56,800
John C Dvorak: show days,

3080
02:58:57,280 --> 02:58:59,140
Adam Curry: you eat a raw egg?
On show days,

3081
02:58:59,380 --> 02:59:03,240
John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, that
explains a lot. Doesn't explain

3082
02:59:03,240 --> 02:59:03,720
anything.

3083
02:59:04,320 --> 02:59:07,200
Adam Curry: Do you just crack it
open in the glass and then suck

3084
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:08,760
it down. Come on. I

3085
02:59:08,760 --> 02:59:12,240
John C Dvorak: mix it in with a
concoction. I make a show day

3086
02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:16,020
concoction, yes, which is
proprietary at the moment. No,

3087
02:59:16,020 --> 02:59:16,320
hold

3088
02:59:16,320 --> 02:59:18,960
Adam Curry: on a second. I feel
that you should be publishing

3089
02:59:18,960 --> 02:59:21,920
this on this very podcast,
telling us about the show day

3090
02:59:21,920 --> 02:59:22,940
concoction. So

3091
02:59:24,020 --> 02:59:26,540
John C Dvorak: Tip of the day,
upcoming Tip of the day could be

3092
02:59:26,540 --> 02:59:29,840
today could be the next tip of
the days. I'm going to make it a

3093
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:33,560
tip of the day, the show day
concoction. Now the raw egg

3094
02:59:33,560 --> 02:59:37,940
thing is sketchy because of the
nature of the crappy industrial

3095
02:59:37,940 --> 02:59:43,960
eggs. But luckily, Jay pop there
in rodeo with her husband. They

3096
02:59:43,960 --> 02:59:47,740
have a bunch of chickens, and
they're getting these, you know,

3097
02:59:47,740 --> 02:59:51,460
pretty pristine eggs from a, you
know, chickens that don't get

3098
02:59:51,460 --> 02:59:55,180
salmonella because they're not
part of a giant flock. And so I

3099
02:59:55,180 --> 02:59:56,140
use those eggs.

3100
02:59:58,240 --> 03:00:00,720
Adam Curry: You are a curious
man. John, C, D, for lack

3101
03:00:02,640 --> 03:00:04,200
Unknown: I'm gonna show my
donation.

3102
03:00:05,220 --> 03:00:07,080
Imagine all the people who could
do that.

3103
03:00:07,320 --> 03:00:08,220
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

3104
03:00:15,600 --> 03:00:18,420
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got Tip of
the Day coming up. I don't know

3105
03:00:18,420 --> 03:00:23,660
if it's going to be John's show
day egg concoction. But we'll,

3106
03:00:23,660 --> 03:00:26,420
we'll, we'll hope that that will
be a tip of the day in the

3107
03:00:26,420 --> 03:00:31,400
future. I'm very excited about
hearing about that. We do have a

3108
03:00:31,400 --> 03:00:34,640
tip coming up, along with some
dynamite end of show mixes, meet

3109
03:00:34,640 --> 03:00:37,460
up reports, which are good. And
we'll be welcoming our

3110
03:00:37,460 --> 03:00:40,720
Commodores and some nights and
Dames and title changes. John

3111
03:00:40,720 --> 03:00:44,560
will be thanking everybody who
supported us, $50 and above for

3112
03:00:44,560 --> 03:00:45,640
today's episode.

3113
03:00:46,120 --> 03:00:47,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I will.
That's what I'm gonna do,

3114
03:00:47,980 --> 03:00:52,300
starting with Sir John, of all
people. And he's in London, UK,

3115
03:00:52,360 --> 03:00:57,940
London, England. And He came in
with a 170 33 the latest 17th

3116
03:00:57,940 --> 03:01:03,840
anniversary donation. He's Sir
John of South London, uh, top

3117
03:01:03,840 --> 03:01:08,220
notch heating it to do this
correctly. If you're in uh

3118
03:01:08,460 --> 03:01:13,260
Manta, Utah, check out top notch
heating and air, because they

3119
03:01:13,260 --> 03:01:18,420
donated $110 to the no agenda
show, uh, Texas hot glass. There

3120
03:01:18,420 --> 03:01:24,200
she is in smithsville, Texas,
and she donated $100 and we have

3121
03:01:24,200 --> 03:01:28,340
the I don't have a no, I guess
there's no note with her stuff.

3122
03:01:28,820 --> 03:01:34,160
Didn't know No, but she Yeah. We
talked about her swords and her

3123
03:01:34,160 --> 03:01:37,700
website, which is Texas hot
glass.com, I believe, yes, it

3124
03:01:37,700 --> 03:01:44,320
is. Check it out if you want a
bong. And by the way, she's got

3125
03:01:44,320 --> 03:01:48,100
plenty of them. It's like she's
making 10 bongs a day.

3126
03:01:53,200 --> 03:01:56,920
Uh, Kevin McLaughlin in Concord,
North Carolina, 808. Already.

3127
03:01:56,920 --> 03:02:00,220
Yeah, 17, oh, Abby's. They are.
Stu galoona, lover of American

3128
03:02:00,220 --> 03:02:05,340
boobs, along with Edward Owens
and Alameda California, 808, we

3129
03:02:05,340 --> 03:02:10,020
got a meet up coming up this
Saturday at the trader vix in

3130
03:02:10,020 --> 03:02:13,620
Emeryville, which will be a no
agenda meet up, and expect to

3131
03:02:13,620 --> 03:02:20,780
see Edward there, and it'll be
at 333 on Saturday. And bring

3132
03:02:20,780 --> 03:02:24,020
your envelopes, uh, with checks
in them and notes. I'll grab

3133
03:02:24,020 --> 03:02:30,080
them as they come in. I'll be
there. Uh, and it says family

3134
03:02:30,080 --> 03:02:35,420
friendly venue. So I expect to
see violet there. Kids. Expected

3135
03:02:35,540 --> 03:02:38,480
these. No kids, we're never
going to do one there again. Uh,

3136
03:02:38,480 --> 03:02:43,840
Mark Morgan in Nicholasville,
Kentucky, 7617 This is

3137
03:02:43,840 --> 03:02:47,020
interesting. He said notes, and
we have to make a note of this.

3138
03:02:47,020 --> 03:02:52,300
I do actually he notices. So
show 1776, would coincide with

3139
03:02:52,300 --> 03:02:57,700
July the fourth. No, next year?
No, wow. It turns out to be June

3140
03:02:57,700 --> 03:03:01,260
26 but it's close enough. So
that'll be the we'll take it.

3141
03:03:01,860 --> 03:03:09,000
We'll take it. Dana Carroll in
Laughlin, Nevada, 7227 port gay

3142
03:03:09,000 --> 03:03:15,840
Alvarez in Punta Verde, Florida,
at 7171 sir Dodger in

3143
03:03:15,840 --> 03:03:19,080
parkersville, West Virginia,
6789 Craig

3144
03:03:19,620 --> 03:03:22,100
Adam Curry: happy University to
my wife, Dame Misty from Sir

3145
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:25,760
dodge here in by God West
Virginia. They were married on

3146
03:03:25,760 --> 03:03:28,220
October 31 2017, at 3:33pm.

3147
03:03:31,460 --> 03:03:34,580
John C Dvorak: Craig Koehler,
Evansville, Indiana, 6502 which

3148
03:03:34,580 --> 03:03:38,720
is a chip that somebody
remembers. It's the original

3149
03:03:38,720 --> 03:03:44,680
Apple two chip, Jamie Bucha in
Vista, California, 606 small

3150
03:03:44,680 --> 03:03:48,340
boobs, as long as Les Tarkowski
also says the same thing, 606

3151
03:03:48,940 --> 03:03:54,040
and he's in Kingman, Arizona.
Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas,

3152
03:03:54,040 --> 03:03:59,980
606 there they are. And then
Martin Martinez in Greeley,

3153
03:03:59,980 --> 03:04:06,240
Colorado, the West. Young man,
$60 uh, he wants to call out his

3154
03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:11,880
friend. Is it deep? Man, dear
man, dealman. Dealman, as a

3155
03:04:11,880 --> 03:04:14,040
douche bag,

3156
03:04:14,400 --> 03:04:16,620
Adam Curry: it's also his first
time donating.

3157
03:04:18,240 --> 03:04:20,040
Unknown: You've been deduced.

3158
03:04:22,440 --> 03:04:26,180
Adam Curry: He delivers,
delivers the mail. So, ah, mail

3159
03:04:26,240 --> 03:04:27,560
guy, we honor him, yes.

3160
03:04:27,560 --> 03:04:29,660
John C Dvorak: And there's
Patrick cobal again in Fairview,

3161
03:04:29,660 --> 03:04:33,800
Tennessee. Patrick cobalt, Duke
of the South, yeah. 5510 is a

3162
03:04:33,800 --> 03:04:39,980
happy birthday. Call to his mom,
uh, Preston Isaacson in Bucha

3163
03:04:39,980 --> 03:04:45,400
Raton. 5333 Anthony fields in
Asheville, North Carolina, 5271

3164
03:04:47,140 --> 03:04:51,940
Scott Nelson, sir. Scott in
Council Bluffs, Iowa, 5001 the

3165
03:04:51,940 --> 03:04:54,880
following people are $50 donors.
Is one you're gonna have to read

3166
03:04:54,880 --> 03:05:00,900
because it's a knighting. Uh,
hockey. Esparza, you. Uh, eller

3167
03:05:00,900 --> 03:05:06,180
right, eller Yaga in Mexico
City, 50, there's just names and

3168
03:05:06,180 --> 03:05:10,380
locations, Zev green and tea
Neck, New Jersey, Edwin Torres

3169
03:05:10,380 --> 03:05:18,000
in San Antonio, Justin Kaler in
Bucha, Indiana. And here was a,

3170
03:05:18,060 --> 03:05:20,100
here's a knighting thing. You
can read, $50

3171
03:05:20,340 --> 03:05:23,720
Adam Curry: from David Steele
from mobile and Alabama. He says

3172
03:05:23,720 --> 03:05:26,300
this layaway night plan I've
just completed is actually a

3173
03:05:26,300 --> 03:05:29,900
switcheroo for my smoking hot
wife. Please allow her the title

3174
03:05:29,900 --> 03:05:33,920
of Dame Emily of the Rosary, as
I rarely find her without hers

3175
03:05:33,920 --> 03:05:37,160
in her hand. I like to imagine
she's saying all those decades

3176
03:05:37,580 --> 03:05:40,120
for me and our three human
resources, but I know that she

3177
03:05:40,120 --> 03:05:44,320
includes an Ave or two here and
there in thanksgiving for Adam's

3178
03:05:44,320 --> 03:05:47,800
progress on his faith journey.
Oh, thank you. Of course, she

3179
03:05:47,800 --> 03:05:51,100
would also pray Adam finds Rome
and that John finds his way

3180
03:05:51,100 --> 03:05:56,200
back. Find your way back, John,
she converted me, and I've never

3181
03:05:56,200 --> 03:05:59,380
had a better decision, despite
much of the nonsense so often in

3182
03:05:59,380 --> 03:06:02,340
the news from the Vatican, you
have a huge following among

3183
03:06:02,340 --> 03:06:06,600
traditional Catholics and Latin
Mass lovers and and Christian

3184
03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:10,860
fascists. Reliably informed, I'd
like to thank one such fellow

3185
03:06:10,860 --> 03:06:13,200
slave who wishes to remain
anonymous. They hit me in the

3186
03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:16,140
mouth during the lockdowns. Keep
your pagan karma. In fact, no

3187
03:06:16,140 --> 03:06:18,660
jingles at all is this note is
too long as it is. Thank you for

3188
03:06:18,660 --> 03:06:21,740
your courage. David Steele, now
relegated back to douche bag

3189
03:06:21,740 --> 03:06:25,820
status, unless one of you can
spare a penny. I got it. I got a

3190
03:06:25,820 --> 03:06:28,100
penny for you brother. No
problem. Thank you very much. He

3191
03:06:28,100 --> 03:06:29,300
will be damed,

3192
03:06:30,320 --> 03:06:34,760
John C Dvorak: our superstar
back end guy. Void zero is a

3193
03:06:34,760 --> 03:06:36,680
Latin Mass advocate. He

3194
03:06:36,680 --> 03:06:39,020
Adam Curry: is, he is, and I
think he's the treasurer of his

3195
03:06:39,020 --> 03:06:39,560
church.

3196
03:06:41,660 --> 03:06:45,580
John C Dvorak: Leif Thompson,
back to the list. In Meridian,

3197
03:06:45,580 --> 03:06:51,340
Idaho, Brandon. Locklear in
Sugar Hill, Georgia, Joshua

3198
03:06:51,340 --> 03:06:57,880
Johnson in Omaha, Nebraska. Tony
Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado,

3199
03:06:58,240 --> 03:07:04,140
Jordan. Tierney in oral South
Dakota, as opposed to anal No,

3200
03:07:04,980 --> 03:07:07,080
Adam Curry: okay, all right, you
know what that is. That's the

3201
03:07:07,080 --> 03:07:10,020
egg talking, right there. Uh,
Scott

3202
03:07:10,020 --> 03:07:16,440
John C Dvorak: McCarty, McCarty
and Lodi Jeremy graves in New

3203
03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:23,600
Hall, Iowa. Uh, that came in
from stripe. Bob Newell in

3204
03:07:23,900 --> 03:07:29,780
Penfield, Pennsylvania, Jean
Richmond in South Portland,

3205
03:07:29,780 --> 03:07:34,460
Maine with a birthday call out,
it's coming up. And Marjorie

3206
03:07:34,460 --> 03:07:39,380
dries last on the list in
Colorado Springs, Colorado. Want

3207
03:07:39,380 --> 03:07:43,480
to thank these people for making
the show 1708, the reality that

3208
03:07:43,480 --> 03:07:44,740
it became. And

3209
03:07:44,740 --> 03:07:47,020
Adam Curry: thank you all. If
you came in with sustaining

3210
03:07:47,020 --> 03:07:50,500
donations under 50 or under 50,
just to remain anonymous, which

3211
03:07:50,500 --> 03:07:53,920
you will never read, to keep you
anonymous, as requested, go to

3212
03:07:53,920 --> 03:07:57,940
no agenda donations.com. Support
the show if you got any value

3213
03:07:57,940 --> 03:08:00,280
from today's program. And I
think if you're still listening,

3214
03:08:00,280 --> 03:08:02,700
you probably did. Thank you
again. No agenda, donations.com.

3215
03:08:09,900 --> 03:08:13,740
Rachel turned 42 on the 27th we
say happy birthday. Ed Lyon,

3216
03:08:13,740 --> 03:08:16,620
happy birthday to his son,
Nathan. Lyon, he turned 11

3217
03:08:16,620 --> 03:08:20,600
yesterday. Jeannie Richmond says
Happy Birthday to Jason. He's

3218
03:08:20,600 --> 03:08:24,380
celebrating on the third and
Patrick Coble wishes his mom a

3219
03:08:24,380 --> 03:08:27,800
very happy birthday on this
spooky day, happy birthday from

3220
03:08:27,800 --> 03:08:30,500
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.

3221
03:08:41,060 --> 03:08:46,120
We do have three title changes,
Viscount not sure becomes count

3222
03:08:46,120 --> 03:08:49,120
not sure, protector of the tri
Lake, sir Nick dragon of the

3223
03:08:49,120 --> 03:08:52,780
four domains, now to be known as
Baron sir Nick dragon and

3224
03:08:52,780 --> 03:08:56,320
purveyor of the Blarg and Dame
bang, bang you heard earlier

3225
03:08:56,320 --> 03:08:58,960
where there no dame, bang, bang.
Vis Countess of the native

3226
03:08:59,260 --> 03:09:02,520
Chumash territory, with a map,
in case you're wondering about

3227
03:09:02,520 --> 03:09:05,820
it. Congratulations to you with
your uppage in your peerage

3228
03:09:05,820 --> 03:09:08,220
status. And thank you all very
much for supporting the best

3229
03:09:08,220 --> 03:09:11,160
podcast in the universe. We
appreciate it. I got a kind of a

3230
03:09:11,160 --> 03:09:17,280
snarky note from a retired Army
dude. He's like, you let the

3231
03:09:17,280 --> 03:09:21,800
Navy capture the Commodore
segment. It's boring. We're

3232
03:09:21,800 --> 03:09:25,760
gonna change that up as you
finish up this promotion. So he

3233
03:09:25,760 --> 03:09:28,700
gave me some sound effects to
play. I'm not gonna play them

3234
03:09:28,700 --> 03:09:31,220
all. And he gave us a script,
which is a very bad idea,

3235
03:09:31,220 --> 03:09:35,660
because we can't follow scripts
at all. However, I will use your

3236
03:09:35,660 --> 03:09:39,560
musical bed. That was quite
snappy. It's a toe Tapper. And

3237
03:09:39,560 --> 03:09:42,460
we will be welcoming the
following Commodores. Remember,

3238
03:09:42,460 --> 03:09:42,760
go to,

3239
03:09:43,180 --> 03:09:46,360
John C Dvorak: do we have some
make good notes, or anything on

3240
03:09:46,360 --> 03:09:47,200
this list? Yeah,

3241
03:09:47,260 --> 03:09:49,480
Adam Curry: that would you just
let me organize everything?

3242
03:09:50,500 --> 03:09:52,060
John C Dvorak: Well, you're
doing it out of the normal

3243
03:09:52,060 --> 03:09:52,900
order. No,

3244
03:09:52,900 --> 03:09:55,840
Adam Curry: no, I always do the
Commodores. And then I do the

3245
03:09:55,840 --> 03:09:58,780
make good, the layaway nights
and the make goods, and then,

3246
03:09:58,840 --> 03:10:01,440
and then I go into. Knightings
and the damings.

3247
03:10:01,800 --> 03:10:02,880
John C Dvorak: Let me write this
down.

3248
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:10,020
Adam Curry: Commodores is
inserted here. You got it? Are

3249
03:10:10,020 --> 03:10:10,560
you good?

3250
03:10:10,920 --> 03:10:12,780
John C Dvorak: I'm good. I got
it written down.

3251
03:10:14,520 --> 03:10:17,700
Adam Curry: You can go to no
agenda rings.com to let us know

3252
03:10:17,700 --> 03:10:21,020
exactly where to send your
Commodore certificate and what

3253
03:10:21,020 --> 03:10:24,680
name you would like on it. So
with that, we ring the bell six

3254
03:10:24,680 --> 03:10:31,040
times, and thanks to the army,
we'll bring in some snappy music

3255
03:10:31,400 --> 03:10:34,580
as we welcome the following.
Commodores, Commodore Sir, who

3256
03:10:34,580 --> 03:10:38,660
dat? Commodore sir, artless
chance. Commodore Kim the B 52

3257
03:10:38,840 --> 03:10:42,520
pilot. Commodore Martin Graf,
Commodore Kirk of the South Bay,

3258
03:10:42,520 --> 03:10:46,780
Commodore sir charis, Commodore,
smelt, Commodore, Q, Commodore,

3259
03:10:46,780 --> 03:10:50,800
Bowman McMahon, Commodore, sir
Nick. Commodore, Dame bang.

3260
03:10:50,800 --> 03:10:55,360
Bang, Commodore, Dave McLean and
Commodore, Olivia Aaron of the

3261
03:10:55,360 --> 03:11:00,340
simulacrum and all over
Australia, Commodores arriving

3262
03:11:02,620 --> 03:11:04,260
John C Dvorak: a light. Like the
bed, yeah?

3263
03:11:06,000 --> 03:11:10,800
Adam Curry: Oops, oops. Now it
won't stop. Hold on, but there

3264
03:11:10,800 --> 03:11:11,160
we go.

3265
03:11:11,580 --> 03:11:14,280
John C Dvorak: Why is this army
guy bitching and moaning? He can

3266
03:11:14,280 --> 03:11:15,780
become a Commodore too?

3267
03:11:16,320 --> 03:11:19,200
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
he was. What army guys do?

3268
03:11:20,100 --> 03:11:21,920
John C Dvorak: They complain a
lot. Guys,

3269
03:11:22,040 --> 03:11:25,700
Adam Curry: here's the make good
ITM guys, while trying to keep

3270
03:11:25,700 --> 03:11:28,760
my notes short for episode 1706,
I completely missed the fact

3271
03:11:28,760 --> 03:11:31,220
that I was due for a title
change. We just gave it to him.

3272
03:11:31,400 --> 03:11:34,040
I would like to claim my title
of count, and henceforth be

3273
03:11:34,040 --> 03:11:36,440
known as count, not sure,
protector of the tri lakes.

3274
03:11:36,620 --> 03:11:40,460
Always love the I got ants with
little dash of karma. Mark rush

3275
03:11:40,460 --> 03:11:43,900
all he says, Oh, I just like to
point out, for those that need

3276
03:11:43,900 --> 03:11:46,120
to hear it, when you move the
goal post to the left, the

3277
03:11:46,120 --> 03:11:48,640
former center thinking
individuals now appear to be off

3278
03:11:48,640 --> 03:11:51,700
centered. Keep up the fantastic
work. And here's the four more

3279
03:11:51,700 --> 03:11:55,120
years. Justin Kaler layaway
Knight, about to be knighted

3280
03:11:55,120 --> 03:11:58,660
from Northern Indiana. After 20
months of sustaining donations,

3281
03:11:58,660 --> 03:12:00,840
I have reached knighthood
status. I would like to be known

3282
03:12:00,840 --> 03:12:04,140
as Sir Justin of the parlor City
at the round table. I would like

3283
03:12:04,140 --> 03:12:08,460
a round of Nelson's green Briar
Tennessee whiskey. Actually Did

3284
03:12:08,460 --> 03:12:14,040
I order that? Are you familiar
with this? With this particular

3285
03:12:14,040 --> 03:12:15,060
brand of stuff?

3286
03:12:15,540 --> 03:12:18,420
John C Dvorak: Probably a sour
mash, is my guess he wants.

3287
03:12:18,480 --> 03:12:21,560
Adam Curry: And what does he
want that with? He wants that

3288
03:12:21,560 --> 03:12:29,180
with Tennessee and a Camacho
triple Maduro cigar.

3289
03:12:29,960 --> 03:12:32,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, triple
Maduro. I must be black.

3290
03:12:32,900 --> 03:12:35,180
Adam Curry: I mean, at that
point you just like coughing up

3291
03:12:35,180 --> 03:12:39,800
a lung on that thing. Okay,
well, we got one. I'm not gonna

3292
03:12:39,980 --> 03:12:44,620
stop smoking so I won't do that
anymore. A deducing, oh, a de

3293
03:12:44,620 --> 03:12:45,100
douching,

3294
03:12:46,840 --> 03:12:48,640
Unknown: you've been deduced.
Thank you

3295
03:12:48,640 --> 03:12:50,680
Adam Curry: for the media
deconstruction. And four more

3296
03:12:50,680 --> 03:12:53,440
years. Says, Sir Justin of
parlor city, just about to be

3297
03:12:53,440 --> 03:12:56,380
sir Justin. And another layaway
night, Kevin says, Hey guys,

3298
03:12:56,620 --> 03:12:59,440
been a listener for such a long
time. I remember hearing Adam on

3299
03:12:59,440 --> 03:13:01,140
buzz out loud and giving

3300
03:13:02,220 --> 03:13:04,560
John C Dvorak: your win on buzz
out loud with Molly. Yeah, I

3301
03:13:04,560 --> 03:13:07,500
Adam Curry: went on with Molly
all the time, sure, all the

3302
03:13:07,500 --> 03:13:11,820
time. I've been at least three
or four times. Yeah, when they

3303
03:13:11,820 --> 03:13:15,000
do, when they were live too.
Thank you for changing my

3304
03:13:15,000 --> 03:13:15,900
worldview and

3305
03:13:15,900 --> 03:13:17,700
John C Dvorak: Molly and Tom.
Tom was No, no

3306
03:13:17,700 --> 03:13:21,200
Adam Curry: not Tom. It was the
the Asian kid was doing it.

3307
03:13:22,220 --> 03:13:25,040
Unknown: Think Tom was King
Chang? Yeah.

3308
03:13:25,760 --> 03:13:29,300
Adam Curry: Think I think Tom
was gone by then. Thank you for

3309
03:13:29,300 --> 03:13:31,760
changing my worldview and
shrinking my amygdala. I've been

3310
03:13:31,760 --> 03:13:35,900
on the 1111, monthly donation
plan since 2013 Can I please get

3311
03:13:35,900 --> 03:13:38,780
a birthday karma shout out from
you guys, and I would also like

3312
03:13:38,780 --> 03:13:42,160
to be knighted, Sir Kevin bully
of the broad streets. Good name.

3313
03:13:42,400 --> 03:13:44,980
Thank you guys. Bless you both
for helping me understand this

3314
03:13:44,980 --> 03:13:49,300
crazy world a bit better. And
here's the four more years, and

3315
03:13:49,300 --> 03:13:54,040
there you go. So with that,
bring out your hot Texas Hot

3316
03:13:54,040 --> 03:13:57,100
Glass Sword. Careful. You don't
want to smash it.

3317
03:13:57,100 --> 03:13:59,620
John C Dvorak: Yeah, be careful.
There it is. Thank you. Day

3318
03:13:59,620 --> 03:14:04,200
Adam Curry: black name, loca
velocity, 432, Emily, Kevin

3319
03:14:04,200 --> 03:14:07,920
Justin, Kaler, quintwin, Newell,
Douglas longenecker And Ryan

3320
03:14:07,920 --> 03:14:10,740
Tiernan. Come on at the podium.
All of you now qualified to

3321
03:14:10,740 --> 03:14:14,280
become Knights and Dames of the
no agenda, round table. I'm very

3322
03:14:14,280 --> 03:14:18,360
proud to pronounce the Kate thee
as Dame velocity 432, Dame Emily

3323
03:14:18,360 --> 03:14:21,440
of the Rosary. Sir Kevin bully
of the Broad Street, sir Justin

3324
03:14:21,440 --> 03:14:25,340
the parlor city, sir sigma, sir
Doug of the watchers, and Sir

3325
03:14:25,340 --> 03:14:30,380
dibbs on living recreations,
Director of Chateau de Yes. For

3326
03:14:30,380 --> 03:14:33,440
you, we have hookers and blow
rent poison Chardonnay along

3327
03:14:33,440 --> 03:14:36,380
with that double Mac and fries
and Mead Nelson's green

3328
03:14:36,380 --> 03:14:39,380
Tennessee whiskey and Camacho
triple Maduro cigar and, of

3329
03:14:39,380 --> 03:14:43,120
course, as always, mutton and
Mead lined up right here for you

3330
03:14:43,120 --> 03:14:46,060
ready to go. Go to no agenda
rings.com. Some you probably

3331
03:14:46,060 --> 03:14:48,520
need some Commodores. While
you're over there, you can see

3332
03:14:48,520 --> 03:14:51,880
that beautiful ring, which is a
signet ring, so we send it to

3333
03:14:51,880 --> 03:14:55,300
you once you've sent us your
ring size. There's a ring sizing

3334
03:14:55,300 --> 03:14:58,420
guide on the website, and of
course, you'll get some wax with

3335
03:14:58,420 --> 03:15:00,960
that. Since it is a signet ring,
you. Seal your important

3336
03:15:00,960 --> 03:15:05,100
correspondence with it, along
with yes another certificate of

3337
03:15:05,460 --> 03:15:09,000
authenticity and welcome to the
round table.

3338
03:15:17,040 --> 03:15:20,780
No agenda meetups. I really
realized I've been talking to a

3339
03:15:20,780 --> 03:15:22,760
lot of people. You know, they
say, Hi, I went to my first

3340
03:15:22,760 --> 03:15:28,460
meetup. It was so good. The no
agenda producers that you see at

3341
03:15:28,460 --> 03:15:32,060
a meet up. They are your first
responders. I think this

3342
03:15:32,120 --> 03:15:35,960
Tennessee, western North
Carolina, even Florida, these

3343
03:15:35,960 --> 03:15:39,740
hurricanes showed you that you
can't be waiting around for the

3344
03:15:39,740 --> 03:15:42,460
government. I don't know where
we all get this. Got this idea

3345
03:15:42,460 --> 03:15:45,160
that the government's gonna save
you. They'll come in,

3346
03:15:45,160 --> 03:15:47,980
eventually, they'll do their
thing. But it's these people

3347
03:15:47,980 --> 03:15:51,160
that you meet at the meetups.
They are your first responders.

3348
03:15:51,220 --> 03:15:55,840
Connection always brings
protection. I'm gonna give you a

3349
03:15:55,840 --> 03:15:59,500
meet up report from Minneapolis.
A note on these meetup reports.

3350
03:16:00,400 --> 03:16:04,320
I don't mind editing out spaces.
I don't mind trying to filter

3351
03:16:04,320 --> 03:16:08,280
some stuff. But listen to what
you've recorded before you send

3352
03:16:08,280 --> 03:16:11,220
it to me. I couldn't there were
three reports I could not play.

3353
03:16:11,700 --> 03:16:16,260
They're just inaudible. This
one, I kind of was able to make

3354
03:16:16,260 --> 03:16:21,380
it usable. But, I mean, it
sounds like they recorded this

3355
03:16:21,440 --> 03:16:26,360
on, I don't know what were those
first mp three players. The very

3356
03:16:26,360 --> 03:16:28,340
first one is the Rio.

3357
03:16:29,120 --> 03:16:31,340
John C Dvorak: Rio would be one
of them, I mean, but they never

3358
03:16:31,340 --> 03:16:32,720
recorded, no, I'm

3359
03:16:32,720 --> 03:16:35,300
Adam Curry: thinking, what was
that long? Kind of longest one

3360
03:16:35,300 --> 03:16:38,600
looked like a thumb, I don't
know, and it had a little

3361
03:16:38,600 --> 03:16:41,800
display on it. Well, it sounds
bad.

3362
03:16:44,080 --> 03:16:48,160
Unknown: Lee of La China coming
to you from Minneapolis,

3363
03:16:48,160 --> 03:16:51,700
Minnesota, where they haven't
been spraying enough Chem trails

3364
03:16:51,700 --> 03:16:56,620
to keep the 75 degree weather
away. Katie Tierney, I am Rob

3365
03:16:56,620 --> 03:16:59,740
the constitutional lawyer's
little sister and better looking

3366
03:16:59,740 --> 03:17:02,880
one. And I was told this would
be a sex event. Apparently it

3367
03:17:02,880 --> 03:17:04,800
was not. I'm curry in the
morning.

3368
03:17:05,580 --> 03:17:08,460
Allen in Minneapolis, FEMA
Region number five.

3369
03:17:08,640 --> 03:17:12,720
Congratulations, gentlemen, on
17 years. Special greetings.

3370
03:17:12,720 --> 03:17:17,580
Adam, I appreciate you very
much. Hello.

3371
03:17:20,700 --> 03:17:24,740
Hello, hello. This is Ashley
Slater. Connection is protection

3372
03:17:26,420 --> 03:17:29,420
Kyle from Minneapolis and the
Fed.

3373
03:17:30,020 --> 03:17:31,280
This is Rick from

3374
03:17:31,280 --> 03:17:33,380
Minnesota, 17

3375
03:17:33,380 --> 03:17:36,860
more years. This is Jeff in
Minneapolis, where we're still

3376
03:17:36,860 --> 03:17:37,760
waiting for Beyonce.

3377
03:17:38,900 --> 03:17:41,920
Hey. This is Dave, and Dame
Jesse is the best. Thanks for

3378
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:43,180
organizing it in the morning.

3379
03:17:43,600 --> 03:17:48,460
This is Jamie from Minneapolis,
and the chem trails were

3380
03:17:48,520 --> 03:17:52,300
fabulous today. I like, Oh, hold
on.

3381
03:17:53,860 --> 03:17:57,340
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
what they did wrong. You don't

3382
03:17:57,340 --> 03:18:00,300
take your iPhone, put it on
record and put it in a bucket

3383
03:18:00,300 --> 03:18:03,600
and put in the corner, yell into
the bucket. That is not the way

3384
03:18:03,600 --> 03:18:04,920
the professionals do it.

3385
03:18:05,100 --> 03:18:07,560
Adam Curry: Maybe it was Joe
Biden's audio guy who did that,

3386
03:18:07,560 --> 03:18:10,800
I don't know, but this, this
was, it's, how can, how can you

3387
03:18:10,800 --> 03:18:14,460
even make it so bad the sound?
Maybe it was on a Nokia.

3388
03:18:16,440 --> 03:18:19,860
John C Dvorak: That's what it
sounds an old realistic, uh,

3389
03:18:20,040 --> 03:18:24,380
recorder that somebody puked on
the microphone so it has no

3390
03:18:24,380 --> 03:18:25,520
sound anymore,

3391
03:18:26,600 --> 03:18:29,540
Adam Curry: sir. Spooky is
Halloween. Spooktacular Meetup

3392
03:18:29,660 --> 03:18:32,180
is a written report. It was the
third time they did this. A

3393
03:18:32,180 --> 03:18:34,880
success. 10 people in total.
Everybody went home with

3394
03:18:34,880 --> 03:18:39,020
Halloween candy and a raffle
prize, and even the liberal was

3395
03:18:39,020 --> 03:18:42,160
happy. But in all seriousness,
everyone in the group had unique

3396
03:18:42,160 --> 03:18:44,860
viewpoints and got along just
fine. Lots of new faces beyond

3397
03:18:44,860 --> 03:18:47,800
comparing Trump's appearance on
Joe Rogan and Kamala on call our

3398
03:18:47,800 --> 03:18:50,500
daddy, we hardly even talk
politics, just really nice

3399
03:18:50,500 --> 03:18:53,080
people enjoying the Halloween
festivities. Everyone's always

3400
03:18:53,080 --> 03:18:57,280
welcome at our Chicago meetups.
Finally, we continued in the

3401
03:18:57,280 --> 03:19:01,440
tradition of watching Adam's
Swamp Thing episode. It gets

3402
03:19:01,440 --> 03:19:04,920
better with every viewing. Can
you provide any retrospective

3403
03:19:04,920 --> 03:19:07,320
about your experience? It would
be a fun way to celebrate

3404
03:19:07,320 --> 03:19:10,560
Halloween, to hear about this.
Well, we're running long today.

3405
03:19:11,160 --> 03:19:14,820
One of these days, I will give
you a retrospective on my Swamp

3406
03:19:14,820 --> 03:19:20,220
Thing episode. It is, of course,
my acting debut. Fabulous. Yeah.

3407
03:19:20,220 --> 03:19:20,840
You

3408
03:19:20,840 --> 03:19:23,060
John C Dvorak: got nominated,
yeah, for something.

3409
03:19:24,380 --> 03:19:26,600
Adam Curry: Florida is having a
meet up pretty soon, and they

3410
03:19:26,600 --> 03:19:29,540
like to send in promos for their
meet ups

3411
03:19:35,180 --> 03:19:38,120
Unknown: in the morning.
Florida. Producers, I wanted to

3412
03:19:38,120 --> 03:19:41,080
formally invite you to our
November to remember meet up in

3413
03:19:41,080 --> 03:19:46,780
the Gainesville Ocala area on
Sunday, November 17, at 12pm for

3414
03:19:46,780 --> 03:19:49,840
our glass bottom boat tour of
the Silver Springs River. It's

3415
03:19:49,960 --> 03:19:53,320
going to be a big meet up,
really big, some might even say

3416
03:19:53,320 --> 03:19:56,860
huge, with lots of beautiful
people. I don't know if we'll

3417
03:19:56,860 --> 03:20:00,120
win or lose, but either way,
it's going to be like. The

3418
03:20:00,120 --> 03:20:02,820
party. Let's make Florida meet
up. Spray it again.

3419
03:20:06,600 --> 03:20:09,480
Adam Curry: Meetups coming up a
little closer on the calendar

3420
03:20:09,720 --> 03:20:13,920
tomorrow. In fact, the mobile
meetup six o'clock at PJ Sports

3421
03:20:13,920 --> 03:20:17,400
Bar in Moreno Valley,
California. Moreno Moreno Moreno

3422
03:20:18,240 --> 03:20:22,520
Moreno Moreno Moreno Moreno
Moreno, the Columbia River

3423
03:20:22,520 --> 03:20:27,680
Basin. Meet up part due seven
o'clock Cider House Richland,

3424
03:20:27,680 --> 03:20:31,700
Washington on Saturday, the
Pittsburgh and no agenda, meet

3425
03:20:31,700 --> 03:20:34,160
up one o'clock at public
industry, public house in

3426
03:20:34,160 --> 03:20:38,780
Pittsburgh, also on Saturday,
the Central Jersey, 732 we drink

3427
03:20:38,780 --> 03:20:42,160
and we know things two o'clock.
Oh, that's sir R Daniels doing

3428
03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:44,980
that at the Garden State
distillery in Toms River, Toms

3429
03:20:44,980 --> 03:20:47,620
River the northern Silicon
Valley. Get John out of the

3430
03:20:47,620 --> 03:20:51,220
house. Meet up. There it is.
It's 5.0 trader vix in

3431
03:20:51,220 --> 03:20:53,020
Emeryville, California. Bring
your kids.

3432
03:20:53,320 --> 03:20:56,320
John C Dvorak: And when the last
I think of the trader, Trader

3433
03:20:56,320 --> 03:21:01,920
vix change chains. And the
trader vix chain began in

3434
03:21:01,920 --> 03:21:05,160
Emeryville. It was different
location, and then they built

3435
03:21:05,160 --> 03:21:10,140
this fancy place over there on
the landfill. And it's a

3436
03:21:10,140 --> 03:21:14,340
gorgeous spot, but it's, I think
is the end of the era for trader

3437
03:21:14,340 --> 03:21:15,360
VIX. Bring

3438
03:21:15,360 --> 03:21:19,680
Adam Curry: your kids to Trader
vix and meet John that that'll

3439
03:21:19,680 --> 03:21:24,500
set him straight. You'll tell
him about it. Yeah,

3440
03:21:30,860 --> 03:21:35,000
whatever kids, if he says he ran
out of toilet paper, don't try

3441
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:38,420
and hand him any, because he's
got another trick up his sleeve.

3442
03:21:39,200 --> 03:21:42,520
And then finally, on Sunday, the
Myrtle Beach meets freely, M, E,

3443
03:21:42,520 --> 03:21:46,360
A, T, freely, before the
election, 330 RSVP, please to

3444
03:21:46,360 --> 03:21:50,380
rusty dirt. That'll be at Sweden
swine Myrtle Beach, Florida. I

3445
03:21:50,380 --> 03:21:53,140
guess they may be renting out
the whole place. Many more

3446
03:21:53,140 --> 03:21:56,260
meetups to be found at on the
calendar, on the website, at no

3447
03:21:56,260 --> 03:21:59,320
agenda meetups.com, connection
is protection. These are your

3448
03:21:59,320 --> 03:22:03,180
first responders. I strongly
suggest that you go to an end no

3449
03:22:03,180 --> 03:22:06,000
agenda. Meet up at least once.
Trust me, you'll want to go back

3450
03:22:06,000 --> 03:22:08,280
for more. No agenda,
meetups.com. If you can't find

3451
03:22:08,280 --> 03:22:10,920
one near you, start one
yourself. Sometimes

3452
03:22:10,920 --> 03:22:14,640
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with all the nights and days.

3453
03:22:20,000 --> 03:22:22,460
All hell lame. You

3454
03:22:25,040 --> 03:22:26,300
wanna be where everybody feels

3455
03:22:28,460 --> 03:22:29,600
the same. It's like a party.

3456
03:22:30,560 --> 03:22:35,480
Adam Curry: Well, to make up for
this horrible, horrible lack of

3457
03:22:36,080 --> 03:22:39,860
ISOs on the last show, I of
course, have way too many ISOs.

3458
03:22:40,760 --> 03:22:44,980
Oh, run them off. Yeah, rip it
is what he said. Okay, crazy,

3459
03:22:45,280 --> 03:22:46,540
okay, crazy.

3460
03:22:47,080 --> 03:22:48,820
Unknown: We're not going to have
a final answer on that. I

3461
03:22:50,080 --> 03:22:53,080
Adam Curry: don't like that one.
I'm gonna dump that one. This

3462
03:22:53,080 --> 03:22:56,200
one, people have sent me over
and over and over again, so I

3463
03:22:56,200 --> 03:22:58,840
finally clipped it. I guess we
need to make an ISO out of it.

3464
03:22:59,140 --> 03:23:03,960
My joy cometh in the morning.

3465
03:23:05,640 --> 03:23:08,160
Unknown: No, underwhelmed. It's
a cleansing, you know? It's

3466
03:23:08,160 --> 03:23:09,120
really a cleansing.

3467
03:23:09,480 --> 03:23:11,400
Adam Curry: And then the final
one. So

3468
03:23:11,400 --> 03:23:12,540
Unknown: eat your eggs. Guys,

3469
03:23:12,600 --> 03:23:13,740
Adam Curry: there you go. Eat
your eggs.

3470
03:23:13,860 --> 03:23:16,500
John C Dvorak: I couldn't even
understand what she said. So eat

3471
03:23:16,500 --> 03:23:18,360
your eggs. Guys, eat your eggs.
Guys,

3472
03:23:18,360 --> 03:23:20,580
Adam Curry: that wasn't that
hard. Oh, eat your eggs. Yeah.

3473
03:23:20,820 --> 03:23:23,300
Okay. I guess you don't like any
of them. No, I

3474
03:23:23,300 --> 03:23:25,400
John C Dvorak: did like the
Trump one a little bit. Okay,

3475
03:23:25,940 --> 03:23:26,600
Unknown: what you got?

3476
03:23:27,200 --> 03:23:31,460
John C Dvorak: I got four. Okay,
let's start with elections.

3477
03:23:31,700 --> 03:23:33,080
Elections. One

3478
03:23:33,080 --> 03:23:35,120
Unknown: day the election will
be over.

3479
03:23:37,400 --> 03:23:39,020
Yeah, that's doable.

3480
03:23:40,100 --> 03:23:42,460
Halloween. Happy Halloween.

3481
03:23:43,060 --> 03:23:46,180
That's probably appropriate.
Yeah, that's

3482
03:23:46,180 --> 03:23:49,660
John C Dvorak: what I was
thinking. And then we have what?

3483
03:23:49,660 --> 03:23:49,960
Not

3484
03:23:49,960 --> 03:23:53,560
Unknown: right. That's just not
right. Yeah, that's as bad as my

3485
03:23:53,560 --> 03:23:55,180
Kamala. Yeah, you're

3486
03:23:55,180 --> 03:23:57,640
John C Dvorak: right. She sounds
she's always sounds like she's

3487
03:23:57,640 --> 03:24:01,260
in a bucket. Yeah. And then
support, please, support our

3488
03:24:01,260 --> 03:24:01,560
work.

3489
03:24:03,720 --> 03:24:07,200
Adam Curry: No, I think, I
think, please support our work.

3490
03:24:07,200 --> 03:24:10,920
Yeah, but the K was cut off,
which was unfortunate. Please

3491
03:24:10,920 --> 03:24:13,860
support our work. Support our
work. Happy Halloween. That's

3492
03:24:13,860 --> 03:24:17,160
the one you want. Happy
Halloween. And now everybody,

3493
03:24:17,160 --> 03:24:20,780
it's time for it. Will it be the
raw egg John's Tip of the day,

3494
03:24:27,860 --> 03:24:29,300
Unknown: and sometimes Adam.

3495
03:24:30,680 --> 03:24:33,320
John C Dvorak: This tip was
provided by Mimi. It wasn't the

3496
03:24:33,320 --> 03:24:34,220
raw egg,

3497
03:24:34,220 --> 03:24:36,740
Adam Curry: ah, bummer. It's the

3498
03:24:37,160 --> 03:24:40,720
Unknown: bummer. Bummer. Far
out, groovy, bummer, dude.

3499
03:24:42,040 --> 03:24:45,640
John C Dvorak: This is the tevla
fee, and since he's 90 bucks,

3500
03:24:46,060 --> 03:24:50,080
it's your own. You can get him.
I don't know where he did. T, E,

3501
03:24:50,080 --> 03:24:54,520
V, I'm sorry I get the hiccups
Now, t, e, v, l, a, p, H, E, E,

3502
03:24:54,580 --> 03:24:55,900
wheel, lock

3503
03:24:56,440 --> 03:24:57,100
Unknown: wheel.

3504
03:24:57,160 --> 03:25:00,420
Adam Curry: Is this for your for
Mimi's motorcycle? Yeah. It's

3505
03:25:00,420 --> 03:25:05,940
John C Dvorak: a Boston boot,
and you can put it on your car.

3506
03:25:05,940 --> 03:25:10,560
She has a mower, drive mower.
You know, more you can drive

3507
03:25:10,980 --> 03:25:13,140
Adam Curry: around. We need a
picture in the newsletter of

3508
03:25:13,140 --> 03:25:15,300
Mimi on the driving lawnmower.

3509
03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:19,320
John C Dvorak: Okay, all right,
so, but she catches more, and

3510
03:25:19,320 --> 03:25:22,040
she leaves it out, and she says,
you know, somebody can just jump

3511
03:25:22,040 --> 03:25:24,680
on this thing started up and
drive it off and have a mower.

3512
03:25:25,160 --> 03:25:28,580
And so she came found this
Boston boot. And they have

3513
03:25:28,580 --> 03:25:31,880
different sizes. You can find
different sizes, and you can get

3514
03:25:31,880 --> 03:25:35,720
one for a car. You can get one
for for a mower. Now you put

3515
03:25:36,080 --> 03:25:38,660
this, you put this on the
steering wheel. No, this is a

3516
03:25:38,660 --> 03:25:41,500
Boston boot. You know what a
Boston boot is. Well, I

3517
03:25:41,500 --> 03:25:44,140
Adam Curry: know a boot on a car
wheel, yeah, yeah,

3518
03:25:44,140 --> 03:25:48,280
John C Dvorak: that's what this
is, huh? This goes on the car

3519
03:25:48,280 --> 03:25:52,420
wheel so you can't drive the car
off. I mean, if you, you just

3520
03:25:52,480 --> 03:25:56,800
can't, if you could even get it
to go past a little bit. There's

3521
03:25:56,800 --> 03:26:01,500
Adam Curry: a flaw in this. So
I'm, I'm a I'm a junkie, I'm

3522
03:26:01,500 --> 03:26:04,740
jacked I'm a jacked up junkie.
I'm gonna steal this car. I jump

3523
03:26:04,740 --> 03:26:08,400
in the car, I start it, and I
just like, peel out. What's

3524
03:26:08,400 --> 03:26:12,720
gonna happen with this Boston?
Something's gonna break it's

3525
03:26:12,720 --> 03:26:16,800
gonna ruin my car, yeah? And
that's a good thing.

3526
03:26:17,280 --> 03:26:19,440
John C Dvorak: Well, you don't,
nobody in their right mind would

3527
03:26:19,440 --> 03:26:21,560
try to drive a car with the
boss. Yeah, but I'm a junkie.

3528
03:26:21,740 --> 03:26:24,140
Adam Curry: I'm a junkie.
Junkies

3529
03:26:24,140 --> 03:26:25,280
John C Dvorak: can't drive,

3530
03:26:28,940 --> 03:26:32,600
Adam Curry: okay? I don't know
about this tip. I mean, I I can

3531
03:26:32,600 --> 03:26:35,300
see for the for the lawnmower, I
can see that,

3532
03:26:35,720 --> 03:26:36,020
Unknown: you know,

3533
03:26:36,800 --> 03:26:39,200
John C Dvorak: it's for the
lawnmowers, where you have

3534
03:26:39,200 --> 03:26:44,320
outdoor equipment that you can
drive off, buy one of these

3535
03:26:44,320 --> 03:26:47,380
things, put it on there, and you
won't have to worry about it.

3536
03:26:47,380 --> 03:26:52,000
You don't you won't need a hound
dog outside. That's the tip.

3537
03:26:52,300 --> 03:26:54,580
Adam Curry: That's your tip of
the day. Everybody that Take

3538
03:26:54,580 --> 03:26:58,360
That coming soon, raw egg
concoction for show day.

3539
03:26:59,380 --> 03:27:00,540
Unknown: Cheers. As for you and

3540
03:27:03,480 --> 03:27:06,540
me, just a cheerful JC, alright,
and sometimes, Adam,

3541
03:27:07,140 --> 03:27:12,420
Adam Curry: we have actually had
a lot of tips today. Serve soup

3542
03:27:13,080 --> 03:27:16,020
tonight for the trick or
treaters, they'll love you for

3543
03:27:16,020 --> 03:27:22,460
it. Lot of good things, lot of
good things. We have definitely

3544
03:27:22,760 --> 03:27:26,840
done our duty. I feel thank you
all who supported us.

3545
03:27:27,140 --> 03:27:30,560
Commodores, executive producers,
Associate Executive producers,

3546
03:27:31,040 --> 03:27:34,700
producers, $50 and above, and
our sustaining producers, thank

3547
03:27:34,700 --> 03:27:38,060
you all so much. No agenda
donations.com. We really

3548
03:27:38,060 --> 03:27:42,160
appreciate what you're doing.
Stay tuned to the no agenda

3549
03:27:42,160 --> 03:27:44,500
stream. You can just keep
listening in the app if you want

3550
03:27:44,500 --> 03:27:47,860
to, or if you're on trollroom.io
and no agenda dot stream up

3551
03:27:47,860 --> 03:27:52,600
next, Nick the rat. This is his
show from last night, so that

3552
03:27:52,600 --> 03:27:57,940
should be a spooktacular show,
since Nick is all about that in

3553
03:27:57,940 --> 03:28:01,380
the sewer, if you know what I
mean, end of show mixes. David

3554
03:28:01,380 --> 03:28:06,060
kecta, Isaac Contreras, Tom
Stark weather and Jeffrey

3555
03:28:06,060 --> 03:28:09,480
Crocker, we've got some cracking
end of show mixes coming to you

3556
03:28:09,480 --> 03:28:11,880
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country in the morning,

3557
03:28:11,940 --> 03:28:14,220
everybody. I'm Adam curry, and

3558
03:28:14,220 --> 03:28:16,020
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where, if you

3559
03:28:16,020 --> 03:28:20,520
don't give the trick or treaters
soup, give them canned goods.

3560
03:28:20,520 --> 03:28:21,860
I'm John C Dvorak. We

3561
03:28:21,860 --> 03:28:25,580
Adam Curry: return on Sunday,
looking forward to it, just

3562
03:28:25,580 --> 03:28:28,760
before the election. We'll see
you then, adios, Mo foes, a

3563
03:28:28,760 --> 03:28:31,160
hooey, hooey and such. This
truck is in honor of Kamala and

3564
03:28:31,160 --> 03:28:31,580
Joe Biden.

3565
03:28:36,200 --> 03:28:40,540
Unknown: You COVID, the

3566
03:28:47,440 --> 03:28:50,200
only garbage I see float down
there is his supporters.

3567
03:28:51,640 --> 03:28:55,360
So just to clarify, he was not
calling Trump supporters.

3568
03:28:55,360 --> 03:28:55,780
Garbage.

3569
03:28:56,740 --> 03:28:59,560
Only garbage I see float down
there is his supporters.

3570
03:29:00,700 --> 03:29:04,500
So just to clarify, he was not
calling Trump supporters

3571
03:29:04,500 --> 03:29:14,880
garbage, new supporters car
garbage, new supporters garbage,

3572
03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:27,920
was born in the property. She
was raised as a middle class man

3573
03:29:27,920 --> 03:29:30,620
when she was in college and fair
expenses, she didn't just

3574
03:29:30,620 --> 03:29:32,060
pretend to wonder McDonald's.

3575
03:29:32,540 --> 03:29:33,200
Just 28%

3576
03:29:35,240 --> 03:29:39,260
of American voters think the
country is going in the right

3577
03:29:39,260 --> 03:29:41,320
direction. Is on the right
track. We love

3578
03:29:44,920 --> 03:29:49,360
Trump from our bottom of the
harm, because we know Trump is

3579
03:29:49,360 --> 03:29:51,940
the only one can save America.

3580
03:29:53,440 --> 03:29:58,000
John C Dvorak: So I heard these
two different guys say, Kay

3581
03:29:58,000 --> 03:29:58,420
Mala.

3582
03:29:59,200 --> 03:29:59,860
Adam Curry: Kay Mala.

3583
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:01,020
Unknown: Totally what you

3584
03:30:01,320 --> 03:30:04,620
John C Dvorak: and then he said,
K Mala, a Camella. However,

3585
03:30:04,680 --> 03:30:07,440
Unknown: he figured he corrected
himself. That's

3586
03:30:07,440 --> 03:30:09,900
John C Dvorak: what it sounded
like, didn't it? That's exactly

3587
03:30:09,900 --> 03:30:12,420
what I thought the first time I
heard it. The first time, the

3588
03:30:12,420 --> 03:30:17,100
second time when I heard K Mala,
he said, K Mala came along. K

3589
03:30:17,100 --> 03:30:25,340
mall is Spanish for who is bad?
What's bad? Is bad. It's malo.

3590
03:30:25,340 --> 03:30:26,300
It means bad,

3591
03:30:26,420 --> 03:30:28,460
Adam Curry: okay? Mala, Kay,
Mala, Charlie,

3592
03:30:29,540 --> 03:30:33,620
John C Dvorak: Mala, which is
bad? The damascu inversion by

3593
03:30:33,740 --> 03:30:38,780
us, it's que Mala. They
specifically said que Mala, so

3594
03:30:38,840 --> 03:30:42,460
they don't want you saying ka
Mala, because it sounds like que

3595
03:30:42,460 --> 03:30:48,040
Mala. These guys were saying it,
and the white host gringos, they

3596
03:30:48,040 --> 03:30:53,920
were missing the point. So you
look out for this. This is going

3597
03:30:53,920 --> 03:30:57,460
on. So I talked to him about
this. I talked to him, but he

3598
03:30:57,460 --> 03:31:01,380
also mentioned to me that if you
pronounce it a certain way,

3599
03:31:01,380 --> 03:31:11,400
Kamala also sound burn her.
Mainly, it's the bad you know.

3600
03:31:13,140 --> 03:31:16,320
Who bad? What bad? You know,
she's bad, whatever you know,

3601
03:31:16,320 --> 03:31:21,440
overall, how bad, how bad is,
what detective is, how bad? So

3602
03:31:21,440 --> 03:31:25,880
how bad? How bad, how bad, which
is what they don't want you

3603
03:31:25,880 --> 03:31:29,180
thinking. And so as I was
talking to me, and I said, you

3604
03:31:30,020 --> 03:31:34,760
know, Trump, he says he makes
the comedy. Says it's and he's

3605
03:31:34,760 --> 03:31:40,040
in Berkeley. He says, Yeah, it's
really something meaning,

3606
03:31:40,160 --> 03:31:44,440
telling me that this Mexican
turnout, and this, this, you

3607
03:31:44,440 --> 03:31:51,880
know, this Latino turnout,
Chicano, whatever you want to

3608
03:31:56,860 --> 03:31:58,480
Unknown: call him, what's
happening.

3609
03:31:59,320 --> 03:32:02,040
You know what it is. I want to
be a whale psychiatrist. It

3610
03:32:02,160 --> 03:32:06,960
drives the whales freaking
crazy. Something happens with

3611
03:32:06,960 --> 03:32:09,960
them, but for whatever reason,
they're getting washed up,

3612
03:32:09,960 --> 03:32:13,980
unsure and you know, and yet the
environment is ignored by the

3613
03:32:13,980 --> 03:32:15,540
environment. They don't talk
about

3614
03:32:21,120 --> 03:32:21,920
it. Kamala Mala

3615
03:32:23,180 --> 03:32:24,440
Bucha Harris, Kamala

3616
03:32:28,820 --> 03:32:31,280
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris. I

3617
03:32:31,280 --> 03:32:35,720
know her that Pamela was first
garden and Kamala, come on,

3618
03:32:35,720 --> 03:32:36,200
everybody.

3619
03:32:38,300 --> 03:32:40,160
I say that makes me a game.

3620
03:32:45,820 --> 03:32:49,120
Me, I say, now let's play a
game. I

3621
03:32:50,620 --> 03:32:51,880
bet you got your makeup bottle.

3622
03:32:51,880 --> 03:32:53,320
Are they anybody's name?

3623
03:32:53,860 --> 03:32:55,600
Camel Harris. Camel Harris. I

3624
03:32:55,600 --> 03:32:56,980
treat it like a Muslim, Harris.

3625
03:32:57,100 --> 03:32:58,840
Kamala Harris, people like us,

3626
03:32:59,500 --> 03:33:02,100
what does Kamala said? Kamala
Harris came along,

3627
03:33:03,000 --> 03:33:03,960
camel Harris,

3628
03:33:04,680 --> 03:33:05,760
camel Harris, Kamala

3629
03:33:07,140 --> 03:33:10,260
Harris came along. Harris, camel
Harris, camel

3630
03:33:10,320 --> 03:33:10,740
Harris,

3631
03:33:11,520 --> 03:33:12,600
camel Harris, Kamala

3632
03:33:12,600 --> 03:33:13,860
Harris, camel Harris, camel

3633
03:33:13,860 --> 03:33:14,460
Harris, camel

3634
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:19,500
Harris came along. Harris was a
very good

3635
03:33:19,500 --> 03:33:20,220
prosecutor.

3636
03:33:20,280 --> 03:33:24,020
Camel Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,

3637
03:33:24,080 --> 03:33:25,280
Kamala Harris, Kamala

3638
03:33:25,280 --> 03:33:27,020
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala

3639
03:33:27,080 --> 03:33:30,260
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala

3640
03:33:30,320 --> 03:33:30,980
Harris, Pamela

3641
03:33:31,040 --> 03:33:33,860
Harris, Kamala boy, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala

3642
03:33:33,920 --> 03:33:34,880
Harris, Kamala Harris,

3643
03:33:34,940 --> 03:33:37,160
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Harris

3644
03:33:37,160 --> 03:33:38,300
is talking about this, come.

3645
03:33:38,360 --> 03:33:40,540
Kamala Harris, come,

3646
03:33:41,140 --> 03:33:41,860
come on Harris.

3647
03:33:43,480 --> 03:33:44,260
Kamala Harris,

3648
03:33:45,940 --> 03:33:50,020
come Come on Harris. Kamala
Harris

3649
03:33:52,000 --> 03:33:53,020
was talking about this. You?

3650
03:34:20,220 --> 03:34:21,320
Happy Halloween. I.