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Back, back, back, back, back.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, January 12th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1729.

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This is no agenda.

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Never wasting a crisis for its good.

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And broadcasting live from the heart of the

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Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number

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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where we do

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call in gruesome newsome, I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.

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In the morning.

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This show is so uniquely situated for this

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moment in time at this hour.

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Because we have you.

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Me.

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We have you.

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We have you.

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We have media deconstruction.

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We've got producers everywhere.

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But we have you who has such a

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knowledge of these issues in California.

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And you still live there, I might point

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out.

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Which is just incredible to anybody.

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It's unbelievable.

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How does he do it?

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How does he do it?

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Anybody who listens to the show, I mean,

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I get tweets, I get emails.

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Hey man, is it time for John to

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finally leave?

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Have you figured it out yet?

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Is it not a good idea to live

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there?

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Figured out what?

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Figured out that it's time to leave the

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hellscape.

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It's only out of love.

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No, it's just part of the whole scheme

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to get everyone to leave California so they

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can pick up real estate cheap.

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I'm not buying into it.

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So last night I was flummoxed and somewhat

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flabbergasted.

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As we decided to, before we went to

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bed, I said, hey, let's just take a

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look, because Tina is doom scrolling.

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She said, oh, look at this, look at

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this.

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She's really up to speed on everything happening.

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And I said, let's just take a look

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at the news.

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What happened to the news?

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Saturday night, CNN is running a documentary of

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the Columbia shuttle.

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MSNBC was, I don't know what they were,

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I mean, no one is doing any news.

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And then on Fox, they have like some

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kind of joke show.

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Have you ever seen this thing Saturday night?

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A Jimmy Fallon show?

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It's the bottom line, I think is what

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it's called.

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There's more than one joke show on Fox.

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And by that we mean supposed comedy show.

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Not a show that's a joke.

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And they're reaching so far down the barrel

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that they're pulling out podcasters.

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We don't have any staff to report on

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any news.

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We only pay these people for three days

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a week.

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They've been working four.

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We paid overtime so we can't have them

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working Saturday night.

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We can't bring you any news.

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Let's bring in Jillian Michaels.

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It's absolute madness.

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And I've seen that clip of that mother.

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And she says to the governor, will it

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be different next time?

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He says, it has to be.

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Next time.

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This just happened four months ago.

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All of northern Malibu just burned down four

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It happened in 2018 when I lost my

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And not only was it not different, PG

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&E, who was responsible for the fire that

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burned down my house with equipment that was

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over 100 years old, was not only not

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held accountable, he completely let them off the

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hook.

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And they weren't forced to update the infrastructure.

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The fire hydrants are broken.

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The reservoirs ran dry.

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Well, guess what?

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In 2014, Californians voted on Proposition 1 to

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put billions toward building new reservoirs.

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Not one is complete 10 years later.

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I grew up in California.

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There were regular, controlled burns.

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you had to do brush cleanup and your

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home was going to be inspected.

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This all stopped before Newsom, to be fair.

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But if we're going to, I'm going to

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go full-blown devil's advocate on you.

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California is prone to fire.

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Bad Santa Ana winds.

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We know this.

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Let's go with global warming.

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Since you know the places at Tinderbox, why

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are you not doing the work?

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Prepare!

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Listen, I get it.

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I understand you want to protect the environment.

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But how's the environment now when you just

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killed I don't know how many coyotes, how

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many mountain lions, you have baby deer running

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in flames down the road.

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Wait a minute, wait a minute.

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Baby deer running in flames.

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Environment now when you just killed I don't

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know how many coyotes, how many mountain lions,

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you have baby deer running in flames down

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the road.

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Really?

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Or how about when all of this runs

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off into the Pacific?

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Is that good for the environment?

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None of this makes any sense.

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None of it.

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Yeah, she is doing a podcast rant.

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You know, she has gone, ever since she

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was kind of got sketchy about being a

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left winger, which she's always been historically.

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And she's kind of switched over to the

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other side.

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And everyone's taking her in.

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Oh yeah, come on.

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You can do our show.

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You'll be on TV a lot more.

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She's gone nuts.

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She's gone nuts.

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But that was it.

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That was the extent of the coverage on,

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I mean, so.

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Don't worry, there's plenty of coverage starting tomorrow.

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because the BBC doesn't necessarily, in this particular

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case, have to take a political position, they

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were pretty good.

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I have a couple of clips here that

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are worthwhile.

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This is reported kind of straight up news.

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Surprising.

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We heard about the problem.

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It's so good.

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We heard about the problem with fire hydrants.

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Reports saying that some in the Palisades area

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were completely unusable.

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The governor of California has been talking about

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it, hasn't he?

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What has he had to say?

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Well, this was a problem right at the

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beginning of this crisis.

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dried up.

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that.

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And the governor, Gavin Newsom, wants to get

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to the bottom of what happened.

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He was actually accosted in the street the

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other day by a woman who was furious

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about this situation, was demanding answers from him.

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to get to the bottom of it.

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And now he has announced this full independent

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review.

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Just briefly, one of the explanations could be

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that the sprinklers that come on in homes,

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which is activated by heat, by fire, they

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simply kept flowing.

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That's a good one.

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I like that one too.

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Have you ever had a house that had

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sprinklers that come on automatically?

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In California, as far as I can tell.

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And you've been to some rich people's homes.

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I've been to a lot of rich people's

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homes, and I've been in California forever.

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I had never seen this in any home

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in California ever.

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It's rare to even be in an office

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building.

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yeah, they're there.

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I'm curious where they got that.

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This is bull crap.

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I'm curious where they got it from and

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why they threw that in there.

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Anyway, it's 14 more seconds.

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On in homes, activated by heat, by fire,

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they simply kept flowing with water, even if

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the home eventually burnt down.

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But you can imagine, street after street after

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street, house after house, all of this water

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flowing.

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That could be one reason why the...

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Stop it again.

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I told you this was a good report.

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No, I said it wasn't political, per se.

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It's definitely not political.

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It's just bull crap.

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This is terrible.

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All of this water flowing, that could be

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one reason why the reserves that the firefighters

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would have used was rapidly depleted.

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Well, here's another little bit from the BBC,

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and you know a lot about this, so

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I'm going to let it play.

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It's only a minute, and you're going to

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give us commentary.

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If you need to stop it, feel free.

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Throughout the crisis, firefighters have been struggling with

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a lack of water.

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Among the possible contributing factors, a reservoir which

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helps to supply water to the Pacific Palisades

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area was undergoing maintenance when the fires broke

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The intensity of the fire is so high,

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it has overwhelmed LA's capacity to fight it.

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And in many of the Southern California communities,

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they have a tank system that is usually

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at the highest end of the community and

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feeds water by gravity into the fire hydrants.

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And what happened in a number of places

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in this particular fire is they just ran

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out of water.

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to refill it quickly enough, or there were

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so many straws in the glass, I mean,

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so many hoses hooked up to the hydrants

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that basically there was no pressure.

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Now, in some places, the storage was empty

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at the beginning of the fire.

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This time of year, we don't expect fires

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in January in Southern California, so oftentimes they're

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doing maintenance on their systems and they'll just

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drain it and do maintenance.

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That seems like the appropriate time.

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Is that true?

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Okay, here we go.

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Here we go.

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So, first of all, what is he talking

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about tanks?

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Well, no, what I understand is they do

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have tanks that are filled up from the

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reservoir and those tanks are elevated.

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The reservoirs are gravity-fed.

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I'm just telling you.

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We have reservoirs around here, too.

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But these are tanks.

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They tend to be at higher elevations.

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They're gravity-fed.

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Most of the pressure that goes into the

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hydrants is gravity.

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It's not pumped.

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Correct.

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Like Biden said.

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There's no tanks involved.

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Oh, I heard that.

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Where's the tanks?

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Now, I have seen, there are tanks here

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and there.

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Every so often, there's one in Oakland.

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There's a big tank.

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But the tank thing is minor because that

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one reservoir, that Palisades Reservoir, is huge.

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And it was dead empty at the beginning

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of the fire.

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Is that because of maintenance?

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And is that typical for this time of

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year?

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Well, that's what they say.

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They say they were always being repaired.

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But it doesn't make sense.

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Is this really your low-fire risk time

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of year?

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It doesn't make sense.

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It's not around here.

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These days, it's actually dangerous for us.

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There is no low-fire risk period.

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California is a desert state.

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It's a tinderbox, always.

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It's a desert state.

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And it has some areas where you have

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Mediterranean climates, where you have a little more

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rain.

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We have a lot of rain in Northern

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California.

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There's no chance of any fires happening anytime

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soon, which usually happens up in the wine

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country.

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And Southern California didn't get any of the

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rain at all.

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But they had two years of heavy rain,

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and so a lot of brush and weeds

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grew up over the last couple of years

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that weren't trimmed back.

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And when the Santa Ana winds come, it's

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usually around the same time of year every

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year, and the tank should be full at

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that point, you'd think.

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The tank thing is going to have to

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be looked into.

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I don't know why this large reservoir was

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dead empty, but they keep showing pictures of

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it.

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The LA Times said it was empty.

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Maintenance.

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I have two more clips, and then I

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want to hear what you have.

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And by the way, tanks are where they're

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really in great use.

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If anyone looks at the skyline of New

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York City.

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Yeah, there's lots of tanks.

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Every building, every big building in New York

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has a giant water tank at the top.

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That's what they blew up to put out

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the towering inferno.

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I remember the movie well.

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It was perfect solution.

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And then something else happened with my favorite

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term.

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The other sense of frustration is, and this

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is very unusual, about 24 hours ago, a

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city emergency alert system sent out texts to

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everyone in the Los Angeles area warning of

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an evacuation, of a compulsory evacuation.

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Problem is, it was not intended.

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It was a computer glitch.

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I got 99 glitches.

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Yeah, baby, a glitch from the BBC!

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Glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch!

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And put a goatee on there, will you?

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Of an evacuation, of a compulsory evacuation.

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Problem is, it was not intended.

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It was a computer glitch.

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It was faulty, and there's a major investigation

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now internally reflecting a lot of that anger

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as to why it happened and what can

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be done to stop it happening again.

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I don't understand this story.

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So it went out to everybody and it

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wasn't intended?

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It turns out two of these announcements went

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out.

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Yes, and not only just, they went out

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to everyone with a cell phone.

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Did you get one on your cell phone

382
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in the drawer?

383
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I don't know, I'd have to go look

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on the phone.

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I'd have to reboot it.

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First I'd have to fill it up with

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some minutes.

388
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I don't have any.

389
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You're out of minutes.

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It's a track phone.

391
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$15 a month max.

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You're out of minutes.

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I'm out of minutes.

394
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Yeah, and then the guy, this kind of

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a feet male comes on.

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Well, you know, I don't know how.

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No human was involved.

398
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We don't know what happened.

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It goes on and on.

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It just happened, and they had to send

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out a second thing saying it was a

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false alarm after everyone panicked.

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Then I understand the second one went out,

404
00:13:23,310 --> 00:13:23,710
same thing.

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The computer, it's the computer.

406
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It's a glitch.

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It's just a mess down there.

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The place is not run very well, let's

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face it.

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It's a mess.

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These people are incompetent.

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There's all lesbians.

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I mean, it's just crazy.

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Hey, lesbians can be competent.

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Well, I think Whitney Cummings, I didn't get

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the clip, but I heard it.

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I should have clipped it.

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Whitney Cummings comes on and goes on in

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a tirade.

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She's another L.A. left winger.

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Why are there three lesbians at the top

422
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of the fire department?

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The chief, the associate chief, and some other

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woman who's a big, giant lesbian.

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She says, this is unbelievable.

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This is impossible statistically.

427
00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:13,650
We're supposed to have diversity.

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There's no diversity.

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00:14:16,590 --> 00:14:17,710
Just lesbians.

430
00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:21,690
So she went on off the rails.

431
00:14:21,850 --> 00:14:22,770
It was quite humorous.

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00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:25,190
We have to look that one up.

433
00:14:25,270 --> 00:14:25,730
That sounds good.

434
00:14:25,870 --> 00:14:26,950
Cummings is pretty funny.

435
00:14:27,130 --> 00:14:27,790
I like her.

436
00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:30,250
She did a good, her whole bit on

437
00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:32,070
New Year's Eve at CNN was great.

438
00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,070
She was very funny.

439
00:14:34,570 --> 00:14:36,590
So, yeah, well, they need that.

440
00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:38,870
And I'm not so sure she's left anymore.

441
00:14:39,930 --> 00:14:41,590
I think a lot of people have left

442
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the left.

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00:14:42,070 --> 00:14:42,990
Yeah, they left the left.

444
00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:46,690
But unfortunately, they go nuts like Julian Michaels.

445
00:14:47,290 --> 00:14:49,230
I mean, they just go, all of a

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sudden they have free speech, which they didn't

447
00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:53,630
have because they were all held back by

448
00:14:53,630 --> 00:14:55,870
politically correct language.

449
00:14:56,090 --> 00:14:57,550
So they go nuts.

450
00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:58,690
And it's like, what?

451
00:14:58,950 --> 00:15:00,450
Wow, we wouldn't even say that.

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Here's the CBC on the homeowners insurance.

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The rising threat of wildfires has many private

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insurers opting not to renew policies for large

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parts of the state, creating a crisis for

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homeowners.

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For those still able to purchase coverage, premiums

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are skyrocketing.

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Horry and Charles Sadler say they paid $65

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,000 U.S. for a new policy after

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their previous coverage was not renewed.

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It's an enormous amount of money.

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It's a whole year of income.

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Insurance companies declined to renew 2.8 million

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homeowner policies in the state between 2020 and

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2022, according to the California Department of Insurance.

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Today, Ricardo Lara, the state's insurance commissioner, said

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companies should do the right thing.

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I am using my moratorium power to stop

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all non-renewals and cancellations.

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The problem of canceled policies has forced many

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homeowners to use a program set up by

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the state called the California Fair Plan.

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The public insurance option was set up to

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be a last resort decades ago, but demand

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has soared, now covering more than $450 billion

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U.S. worth of residential property.

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California is rolling out sweeping new insurance regulations,

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trying to force private companies to take back

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much of the coverage now handled by the

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state.

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That doesn't seem possible.

483
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They're going to force insurance companies to insure?

484
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They won't do it.

485
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They'll just walk from the whole state.

486
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And as you said, it'll be worse?

487
00:16:34,390 --> 00:16:35,550
It'll be worse.

488
00:16:36,010 --> 00:16:37,870
Here's a couple of things that happened.

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One is that this insurance commission, which is

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poorly operated, all our commissions are poorly operated

491
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in California.

492
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It's a corrupt state.

493
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It's just basically been co-opted by the

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Democrat Party using absentee and mail-in ballots,

495
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which is all the three West Coast states

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have done.

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And so they just put corrupt.

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And so you have a bunch of people

499
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are bought out.

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It's all a scam.

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00:17:00,670 --> 00:17:03,690
And so the insurance guys decided, well, to

502
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make life easy, we'll just put a cap

503
00:17:05,170 --> 00:17:05,770
on insurance.

504
00:17:05,849 --> 00:17:07,369
The insurance company says, no, we can't cap

505
00:17:07,369 --> 00:17:10,130
this stuff because some people really live in

506
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areas that are going to catch on fire.

507
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And you guys are doing nothing about fire

508
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mitigation at all in this state.

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So we're getting out of here because you're

510
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going to break us.

511
00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:20,950
We can't afford this, which is reasonable looking

512
00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:22,970
at what happened in Palisades for what the

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00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:26,589
insurance companies did was wise, although sleazy.

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00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:28,690
And so we're just a mess.

515
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And so a lot of people are going

516
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to have lost everything, and they're not going

517
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to get anything back except unless they beg

518
00:17:33,650 --> 00:17:35,770
the government to get some sort of loan

519
00:17:35,770 --> 00:17:36,210
deal.

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00:17:36,970 --> 00:17:40,530
Has this impacted you in North California, the

521
00:17:40,530 --> 00:17:42,190
insurance skyrocketing?

522
00:17:42,190 --> 00:17:43,070
Not much, though.

523
00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:43,990
Not much.

524
00:17:44,290 --> 00:17:45,010
You're on a hill.

525
00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:45,550
You're good.

526
00:17:45,610 --> 00:17:46,290
You're on bedrock.

527
00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:47,970
You're on solid ground, my friend.

528
00:17:48,810 --> 00:17:51,310
My bedrock is one of those areas that

529
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are earthquake resistant.

530
00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:56,730
Like my watch is water resistance.

531
00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:59,770
No, I had a guy, a geologist that

532
00:17:59,770 --> 00:18:00,510
lived across the street.

533
00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:02,370
The only reason he lives on the same

534
00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:05,370
hill I'm on, which is an anomaly.

535
00:18:05,370 --> 00:18:06,730
If you look across the bay, and he

536
00:18:06,730 --> 00:18:08,430
says, what's this hill doing here?

537
00:18:08,550 --> 00:18:09,630
This shouldn't be here.

538
00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:12,350
It's because he says this is like a

539
00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:15,650
big one giant rock that just hasn't eroded

540
00:18:15,650 --> 00:18:16,950
over the millions of years.

541
00:18:17,090 --> 00:18:18,310
It stays solid.

542
00:18:18,450 --> 00:18:21,030
And so when we have a quake, it

543
00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:22,810
acts like a giant ship.

544
00:18:23,970 --> 00:18:26,150
So instead of having ground waves or anything

545
00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:28,730
that knock your house off its foundation, the

546
00:18:28,730 --> 00:18:31,790
whole thing goes like a giant ship, and

547
00:18:31,790 --> 00:18:32,990
you're like just a passenger.

548
00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:36,090
And the appeal of living there is what

549
00:18:36,090 --> 00:18:37,090
exactly?

550
00:18:38,130 --> 00:18:39,010
Well, there's that.

551
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:40,270
It's safe.

552
00:18:40,730 --> 00:18:42,610
I have a view of the bridge.

553
00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:44,950
And the mudflats.

554
00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:46,270
The sunsets are dynamite.

555
00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:47,750
It must be beautiful, yes.

556
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:53,230
And the Zephyr goes by.

557
00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:56,350
The Zephyr doesn't go by on Thursdays.

558
00:18:56,430 --> 00:18:58,090
Well, it goes by but too early, which

559
00:18:58,090 --> 00:18:58,690
is a bummer.

560
00:18:58,830 --> 00:19:00,150
We don't get a Zephyr report.

561
00:19:00,830 --> 00:19:01,410
No Zephyrs.

562
00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:03,530
The one thing we're really missing from this,

563
00:19:03,610 --> 00:19:05,370
and I'm quite surprised, we don't have a

564
00:19:05,370 --> 00:19:06,230
name for it yet.

565
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:08,750
And we have the Great Fire, the Great

566
00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:09,910
San Francisco Fire.

567
00:19:10,210 --> 00:19:12,030
I mean, we don't have a name.

568
00:19:12,370 --> 00:19:15,030
No one has called this anything yet.

569
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:17,990
Well, that's because it's still only 30%

570
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:18,830
controlled maybe.

571
00:19:19,150 --> 00:19:19,810
They're still putting it out.

572
00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:22,190
The Great Palisades Fire maybe?

573
00:19:22,770 --> 00:19:24,210
It's going to have to be that because

574
00:19:24,210 --> 00:19:25,050
that's a good name.

575
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:27,450
It doesn't encompass everything.

576
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:30,450
Yeah, but it's a reference point.

577
00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:31,630
I think it's a good name to call

578
00:19:31,630 --> 00:19:34,190
it the Great Palisades Fire of 2025.

579
00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:36,270
And have you ever seen it this bad

580
00:19:36,270 --> 00:19:38,830
in California in all your years there?

581
00:19:39,030 --> 00:19:39,250
No, no.

582
00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:40,950
This is the worst thing that's imaginable.

583
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:44,370
And I've been to the Palisades, and a

584
00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:45,550
friend of mine used to live there.

585
00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:47,870
And I've been on Amalfi Drive, which is

586
00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:50,330
part of the Alphabet Streets, which I think

587
00:19:50,330 --> 00:19:51,510
is completely wiped out.

588
00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:51,950
Wow.

589
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:54,270
And it's a beautiful area.

590
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:56,950
It's calm.

591
00:19:56,950 --> 00:20:00,150
It's not as spread out as Beverly Hills,

592
00:20:00,610 --> 00:20:02,950
but it's a great Southern California enclave.

593
00:20:03,710 --> 00:20:04,830
Hey, can't they blame it on Trump?

594
00:20:04,910 --> 00:20:06,450
So how the Great Trump Fire?

595
00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:07,470
I mean, that would be funny.

596
00:20:08,610 --> 00:20:09,690
They mistimed it.

597
00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:10,890
Trump's not in yet.

598
00:20:11,370 --> 00:20:13,050
So it's a great area.

599
00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:17,590
And if you went there during any time,

600
00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:19,790
this has been, I think it was established

601
00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:22,210
around 1910, and it actually dates back to

602
00:20:22,210 --> 00:20:22,970
the 1800s.

603
00:20:23,050 --> 00:20:24,390
Never had an issue like this.

604
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:26,690
You would have never guessed that this would

605
00:20:26,690 --> 00:20:27,130
happen.

606
00:20:27,530 --> 00:20:27,650
No.

607
00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:31,120
It's very disturbing.

608
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,600
But again, paradise, you know, California when it

609
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,340
burnt to the ground.

610
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,440
But that was understood.

611
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,900
That was a weapon.

612
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,280
That was a directed energy weapon.

613
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,300
Yes, you're correct.

614
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,840
And then you have Maui, which is another

615
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,080
thing.

616
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,880
You went to La Jolla.

617
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,040
Hey, how come none of those elites had

618
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,720
blue roofs?

619
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,920
Don't they know?

620
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000
Didn't they learn from Maui?

621
00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:54,120
Yeah, this is very disturbing.

622
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:55,900
So I want to hear your fire clips.

623
00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:56,580
What did you pick up?

624
00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:58,000
Because you're boots on the ground.

625
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,600
Well, I'm boots on the ground nowhere near

626
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,240
the fire.

627
00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:02,480
Oh, it's close enough.

628
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,540
But, of course, I will say this.

629
00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:09,720
I got a Great DEI Fire.

630
00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:11,100
I'm sorry.

631
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,340
The Troll Room has a lot of good

632
00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:13,840
names.

633
00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:15,740
I like the Great DEI Fire.

634
00:21:16,220 --> 00:21:17,620
That's a great name.

635
00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:18,300
The Trolls.

636
00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:19,660
The Great DEI Fire.

637
00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:20,380
That's not bad.

638
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,980
Well, let's just start with the fires, PBS.

639
00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:24,360
Let's just start with this.

640
00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:25,580
There's Climate again.

641
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,920
Oh, wait.

642
00:21:27,980 --> 00:21:29,580
If you're going to go Climate, I got

643
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:30,900
a lot of Climate things.

644
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:31,680
Well, OK.

645
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,580
Let me put that off there.

646
00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:33,080
Yeah, put it off.

647
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,700
Do that last.

648
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,140
I'll put it off.

649
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,520
I'll end with that.

650
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,340
Yes, please do.

651
00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:41,420
So let's go Cal.

652
00:21:42,140 --> 00:21:43,160
What is this Cal?

653
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,620
No, Fire NPR Latest and Weird.

654
00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:47,640
Fire NPR Latest and Weird.

655
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,760
And you want to support NPR's mission to

656
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,140
create a more informed public.

657
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,900
If all that sounds appealing, then it is

658
00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:58,460
time to sign up for the NPR Plus

659
00:21:58,460 --> 00:21:59,120
Bundle.

660
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:03,140
Why did you put that in there?

661
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:05,320
Forget that clip.

662
00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:08,320
I mean, I can move past it.

663
00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:09,760
I can see in the waveform where it

664
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,040
starts.

665
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,080
So just pick it up.

666
00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:13,140
I don't know why I got that in

667
00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:13,340
there.

668
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,540
You're promoting the NPR Bundle.

669
00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:15,740
The Bundle.

670
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:16,680
What has happened to you?

671
00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,760
Southern California is seeping into your brain.

672
00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:23,140
California firefighters are getting help from Canada and

673
00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:26,040
Mexico as teams of first responders make their

674
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,720
way to the Los Angeles area this weekend

675
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,080
to help fight terrifying fires.

676
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,360
At a briefing earlier, L.A. Mayor Karen

677
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,120
Bass updated reporters on how fire victims are

678
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:35,760
being assisted.

679
00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:38,900
FEMA teams are on the ground providing in

680
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:43,320
-person support, helping Angelenos apply for disaster relief

681
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,740
at the Westwood Recreation Center and Ritchie Valens

682
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:47,200
Park.

683
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,300
The Small Business Administration is now offering home

684
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:56,020
disaster loans, business disaster loans, and economic injury

685
00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:57,180
disaster loans.

686
00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:59,980
More strong winds are forecast this weekend.

687
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,620
Here's L.A. County Fire Chief Anthony Maroney.

688
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:06,780
These winds, combined with dry air and dry

689
00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:09,980
vegetation, will keep the fire threat in Los

690
00:23:09,980 --> 00:23:11,300
Angeles County high.

691
00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:14,700
At this hour, the Palisades Fire, the largest

692
00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:17,440
of the California blazes, is only 11 percent

693
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,500
contained, but firefighters are making progress on the

694
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:21,200
Kenneth Fire.

695
00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:24,420
Thousands of Southern Californians have lost their homes

696
00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:25,720
to wildfires this week.

697
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,280
What's next for each varies, but Rachel Miro

698
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,340
from Member Station KQED reports some survivors are

699
00:23:33,340 --> 00:23:35,820
planning to weather the near future together.

700
00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:37,480
What does that mean?

701
00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:39,220
It doesn't mean anything.

702
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:39,660
Okay.

703
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,860
So now we're going to go, now this

704
00:23:41,860 --> 00:23:43,660
is from yesterday, so this is the closest

705
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:44,840
to our show.

706
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,320
This is the rundown from PBS.

707
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,120
As the light of day dawned over Los

708
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:53,220
Angeles, a thick wall of smoke fanned out

709
00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:55,900
over hillside neighborhoods that so far have been

710
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:57,040
spared by the flames.

711
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,600
But as those fires crept ever closer, helicopters

712
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,380
scrambled to drench the wildfires with water pulled

713
00:24:03,380 --> 00:24:04,700
from a nearby reservoir.

714
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:07,940
As you can see, the Palisades Fire continuing

715
00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:09,780
to chew through the Santa Monica Mountains.

716
00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:13,340
Overnight, the fire burning through Pacific Palisades spread

717
00:24:13,340 --> 00:24:16,140
northeast and tore through vast tracts of the

718
00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:17,200
Santa Monica Mountains.

719
00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:20,460
That flare-up spurred additional evacuations in the

720
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:21,940
Brentwood and Encino neighborhoods.

721
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:25,200
Los Angeles City Fire Chief Kristen Crowley gave

722
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,240
an update this morning.

723
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:30,520
We immediately redeployed resources from the San Fernando

724
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,760
Valley to begin evacuation and extinguishment efforts with

725
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,540
a relentless air attack utilizing all available aircraft

726
00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:40,340
in the area.

727
00:24:40,620 --> 00:24:43,700
Mayor Karen Bass stood by Crowley, responding to

728
00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:47,340
mounting criticism about inadequate firefighting resources.

729
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:50,840
We have got to stay focused until this

730
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,080
time passes.

731
00:24:52,540 --> 00:24:55,540
When the fires are out, make no mistake,

732
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,820
we will have a full accounting of what

733
00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:01,400
worked and especially what did not.

734
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,600
A Los Angeles Times investigation found that a

735
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,260
key area reservoir was empty in the lead

736
00:25:07,260 --> 00:25:10,360
-up to the fires, when firefighters confronted dry

737
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:10,770
hydrants.

738
00:25:11,660 --> 00:25:14,680
Los Angeles County Fire Chief Anthony Maroney defended

739
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,360
the department's preparations and deflected criticism aimed at

740
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,160
decision-makers.

741
00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:22,620
I did everything in my power to make

742
00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:26,600
sure that we had enough personnel and resources

743
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,560
before the first fire started.

744
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,740
It wasn't for a lack of preparation and

745
00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:38,220
decision-making that resulted in this catastrophe.

746
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,440
It was a natural disaster.

747
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,580
I think the fire chief is the smartest.

748
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,960
She came right out and said, no, no,

749
00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:46,460
I got let down by the city, it's

750
00:25:46,460 --> 00:25:47,100
no good.

751
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,840
They screwed me over.

752
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,280
Why are they, I mean, I don't, I

753
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,780
really don't know if they would have been

754
00:25:52,780 --> 00:25:54,020
able to suppress this.

755
00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:57,880
But with firefighting, I mean, the only way

756
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,820
to suppress it is to prevent it, which

757
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:01,000
is just not done.

758
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:04,240
Well, that prevention one, and also jumping on

759
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,960
it when it started, instead of letting it

760
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,920
get out of control.

761
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:08,320
Was there a delay?

762
00:26:08,540 --> 00:26:09,240
Was there a delay?

763
00:26:09,620 --> 00:26:10,640
Well, there had to be.

764
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040
I mean, it's just like, well, it looks

765
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,060
like something's starting up.

766
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Something's going on over there.

767
00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:19,940
So we got, now this is one of

768
00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:23,400
the council women from the LA City Council,

769
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,980
Tracy Park, who is the one representing Palisades.

770
00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:29,080
And she's irked.

771
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,900
She's just lost her constituents.

772
00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,060
She's got to get voted in again because

773
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:33,960
there's no one left.

774
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:34,620
No one left.

775
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,300
But she was a, she's a Republican turned

776
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,240
Democrat, because in California, if you want to

777
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,120
run for office and you're a Republican, forget

778
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:42,560
about it.

779
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,060
You change your party to Democrat and run

780
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:47,300
as a Democrat with Republican talking points.

781
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:48,600
And you tend to win a lot, but

782
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:48,920
here's.

783
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,120
There's a guy who did that in Austin

784
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,260
to get on city council.

785
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:54,140
Yeah.

786
00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:56,500
But he actually went around to parties saying,

787
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240
you know, I'm really Republican, but I just

788
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,800
registered as a Democrat to get in.

789
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:01,240
And everyone looked at him like, you fool.

790
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,140
No one voted for him.

791
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:05,300
Well, they shouldn't have said that.

792
00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:05,900
No, I know.

793
00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:07,400
It was the dumbest thing ever.

794
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:08,940
It's idiotic.

795
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,160
I don't know why he did it.

796
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,020
I've seen the light.

797
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,980
I'm now a Democrat.

798
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:13,960
All right.

799
00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:14,580
Tracy Parks.

800
00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:17,660
Tracy Park represents Pacific Palisades in the Los

801
00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:18,820
Angeles City Council.

802
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,700
What happened in the Palisades over the last

803
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,720
several days was not unpredictable.

804
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:26,480
We already know when there's a wildfire event,

805
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,780
our communication systems go down.

806
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,280
We already know that during evacuation processes, we

807
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,760
have traffic bottlenecks.

808
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,100
So to see those same issues repeat in

809
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,080
what has now become the most devastating natural

810
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,560
disaster in Los Angeles history is incredibly frustrating.

811
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Park says the L.A. Fire Department's budget

812
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,220
is inadequate for today's needs.

813
00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:53,440
We have about the same number of firefighters

814
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,920
and fire stations in the city of Los

815
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,220
Angeles that we had 60 years ago.

816
00:27:58,660 --> 00:28:01,260
But our demands for service have tripled.

817
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,460
There's 4 million people.

818
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,560
There's 4 million people in the city of

819
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,220
Los Angeles.

820
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:09,060
We have about 100 fire engines and ambulances

821
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:11,780
out of service sitting in the maintenance yard.

822
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,280
Why?

823
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,540
Why is this the case?

824
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Because they don't have enough mechanics.

825
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,300
And here in the city of Los Angeles,

826
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,160
we need at least 62 new fire stations

827
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,260
to meet average daily demand in our city.

828
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,200
Not 5, not 10, not 25, 62.

829
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,660
I hope that this is a wake-up

830
00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:31,040
call.

831
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,040
So is there any conversation you have with

832
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,520
your neighbors?

833
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,340
Oh, I'm sorry.

834
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:40,200
What am I even thinking?

835
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,160
But let's say you had conversation with your

836
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,500
neighbors.

837
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,520
Yeah, last conversation I had with my neighbor

838
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,220
was that Putin's running the country.

839
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,800
So it was 8 years ago.

840
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,440
Well, it doesn't matter.

841
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:52,800
Nothing's changed.

842
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:53,940
Putin's running the country.

843
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:57,240
Is anyone in Northern California talking about preparedness

844
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,420
and RR?

845
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,620
Because, you know, you have similar type of

846
00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:01,560
leadership going on.

847
00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:02,820
In fact, you have the same governor.

848
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,680
I mean, if something bad happens in Northern

849
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,340
California, do you feel that everyone's prepared there?

850
00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:09,900
No.

851
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,060
Okay, good.

852
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,020
No, nobody cares.

853
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:14,000
Nobody cares?

854
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:14,820
Why not?

855
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,580
No, nobody cares.

856
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:16,340
What is this?

857
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,420
Why does nobody care?

858
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,220
Why is there – what is that?

859
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,700
What is it about the milieu?

860
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:21,860
Anomie.

861
00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:23,340
It what?

862
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,340
It's from being depressed by being run by

863
00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:29,360
a bunch of – it's a corrupt state.

864
00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:31,840
And everyone's just kind of giving up on

865
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:31,960
it?

866
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:33,620
There's no organization?

867
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,820
Well, I don't see anybody talking much about

868
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,620
it except, oh, those poor Angelenos, those idiots

869
00:29:38,620 --> 00:29:39,320
down there.

870
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Oh, yeah.

871
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,240
You know, they should have saw this coming.

872
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,160
When the Santa Ana winds get pretty wild,

873
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:47,100
we get this sort of wind too.

874
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,880
It's called offshore breeze.

875
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240
And it never gets 100 miles an hour

876
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,720
or anything.

877
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:54,740
But in LA, it does all the time.

878
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Not every year, but every so often.

879
00:29:58,580 --> 00:30:00,700
About once every decade with the high winds.

880
00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:04,440
And when I was a little kid, I

881
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
remembered them talking about the Santa Ana winds

882
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,500
and the fires down there.

883
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,820
There was the Bel Air fire, I think

884
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:09,680
it was 1969.

885
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,400
I'm not sure.

886
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,820
61, 69.

887
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,520
You look it up.

888
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,120
It's on Wikipedia.

889
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:15,280
It was like one of the worst fires,

890
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,160
but it doesn't even compare to this.

891
00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:20,180
But it burnt down Bel Air, which is

892
00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:21,000
a nice community.

893
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,180
The Bel Air fire was 61, November 6,

894
00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:24,880
61.

895
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:25,960
Yeah.

896
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,100
484 homes, 6,000 acres.

897
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,560
That's a teeny weeny fire.

898
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:33,640
There's nothing compared to this.

899
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,700
Yeah, it was a teeny weeny fire.

900
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,760
It was a big deal because of all

901
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,060
the celebrities that were affected.

902
00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:38,380
It was easy to list it.

903
00:30:38,620 --> 00:30:38,720
Yeah.

904
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,460
But the number of celebrities in this one

905
00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:43,120
is really a whopper.

906
00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:43,360
Yeah.

907
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400
So let's go to, I've got two more

908
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,320
clips and you can take it to climate,

909
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:51,700
which is fires and COPD, which I thought

910
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:52,380
was interesting.

911
00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:54,980
The vast plumes of smoke and ash from

912
00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:56,700
these fires are threatening the health of people

913
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:57,700
miles away.

914
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:00,560
It's led both the Biden administration and Los

915
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,500
Angeles County to declare public health emergencies.

916
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:06,660
Allie Rogan spoke with Dr. Russell Boer, an

917
00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:09,060
assistant professor of medicine and public health at

918
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:09,560
UCLA.

919
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,700
Dr. Boer, thank you so much for joining

920
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:11,980
us.

921
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,100
You've lived on the West Coast for a

922
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:14,700
long time.

923
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,680
How does this fire compare to others that

924
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,420
you've experienced?

925
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,420
And what sort of symptoms are folks presenting

926
00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:24,400
in your clinical practice right now?

927
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440
It's been a very busy few days and

928
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,720
lots of calls and messages from patients and

929
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480
lots of folks coming into clinic feeling more

930
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,500
short of breath, more chest tightness, and generally

931
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,120
just worse than their baseline, and spent a

932
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,940
lot of time trying to figure out how

933
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:42,780
to optimize people's respiratory medications to compensate for

934
00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:44,640
that, but also a lot of time doing

935
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,260
counseling on how to best keep themselves safe

936
00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:50,660
given these difficult circumstances that we're experiencing here

937
00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:51,480
in LA right now.

938
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,240
What sort of health issues tend to crop

939
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,880
up when there's fires like this?

940
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,260
We worry the most about people with chronic

941
00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:59,240
heart and lung disease, and that's because small

942
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,600
particles can actually work their way all the

943
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,760
way down not only into the deepest parts

944
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,460
of the lung, but even sometimes transit into

945
00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:07,940
the bloodstream through the lung.

946
00:32:08,140 --> 00:32:10,700
And so what we worry about most is

947
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:14,580
acute flare-ups of cough, shortness of breath,

948
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,440
and wheezing, especially in the lungs, and that

949
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,420
can affect even people without pre-existing lung

950
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:20,880
disease, or for people that do have pre

951
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,120
-existing lung disease, to flare-up inflammation to

952
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680
the point of needing medical attention if the

953
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,640
inflammation gets so bad that people aren't able

954
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,320
to get enough oxygen into their body.

955
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,300
Even short-term high doses of exposure, like

956
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,260
we see when the air quality index is

957
00:32:35,260 --> 00:32:38,700
above 200, can be very hazardous to people

958
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,760
who are otherwise healthy.

959
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760
And I tell people, you know, even if

960
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,380
you're a seasoned athlete, this is not the

961
00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:46,660
time to be going outside and taking a

962
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:47,980
nice hike up to the top of the

963
00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:49,160
hills to see if you can see the

964
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,880
fire or not.

965
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:51,740
This is affecting everyone.

966
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,060
Sucking in soot.

967
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:54,320
That's right.

968
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,860
Obama predicted it.

969
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:58,320
Before you go to climate, can I just

970
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,480
play two short clips from Gavin Newsom?

971
00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:02,780
Yeah, absolutely.

972
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,680
There's something else going on here that I

973
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,420
want to ask you about.

974
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,720
This is from Meet the Press.

975
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,700
He did an extensive interview, a lot of

976
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:11,980
Trump stuff in there, of course.

977
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,780
But this was interesting.

978
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,900
Over the course of the next several years,

979
00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:16,580
Los Angeles will be host to the World

980
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:18,680
Cup, and then the Super Bowl, and then

981
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,100
the Olympics.

982
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,320
With this rebuilding effort needing to take place,

983
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,520
is LA going to be ready for all

984
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,260
of those global events?

985
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:31,040
My humble position, and it's not just being

986
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,340
naively optimistic, that only reinforces the imperative of

987
00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:38,000
moving quickly, doing in the spirit of collaboration

988
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,700
and cooperation.

989
00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:40,900
The President of the United States, Donald Trump,

990
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:43,320
to his credit, was helpful in getting the

991
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,280
Olympics to the United States of America to

992
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,400
get it down here in LA.

993
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,560
We thank him for that.

994
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,700
This is an opportunity for him to shine,

995
00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:53,580
for this country to shine, for California and

996
00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:54,760
this community to shine.

997
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,940
The opportunity with all of that, and all

998
00:33:57,940 --> 00:34:00,020
that opportunity, and that pride and spirit that

999
00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:02,340
comes from not just hosting those three iconic

1000
00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,580
games and venues, but also the opportunity, I

1001
00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:07,040
think, to rebuild at the same time.

1002
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,440
And that's why we're already organizing a Marshall

1003
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:09,860
Plan.

1004
00:34:10,179 --> 00:34:11,820
We already have a team of looking and

1005
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:14,659
reimagining LA 2.0. And we're making sure

1006
00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:16,580
everyone's included, not just the folks on the

1007
00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:19,480
coast, people here that were ravaged by this

1008
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,860
disaster.

1009
00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:22,600
LA 2.0, getting ready for the World

1010
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,280
Cup, the Olympic Games, the Super Bowl.

1011
00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:26,900
How can they do this?

1012
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,260
Is LA hosting the Super Bowl?

1013
00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:29,699
LA?

1014
00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:31,980
Well, that's not this year.

1015
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:34,040
It's a year or two from now.

1016
00:34:34,179 --> 00:34:35,960
Okay, but they're not going to rebuild all

1017
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,580
this within two years, are they?

1018
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:38,000
You can't.

1019
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,199
Or maybe they have the...

1020
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:40,920
You don't need to rebuild it for Russia's

1021
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,659
Super Bowl.

1022
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,860
It's probably going to be in that new

1023
00:34:42,860 --> 00:34:46,260
SoFi, not SoFi, but there's that stadium that

1024
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:48,040
I think the Chargers play in.

1025
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,480
The stadium's not damaged.

1026
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,420
And they could play in the LA Coliseum.

1027
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:54,280
It's not damaged.

1028
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,180
It's highly inappropriate.

1029
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,780
The Palisades is not anywhere near where these

1030
00:34:59,780 --> 00:35:00,960
sports venues are going to be.

1031
00:35:00,980 --> 00:35:01,720
I know, but it's inappropriate.

1032
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,880
Oh, it's bull.

1033
00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:05,480
Nobody cares.

1034
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,740
Let's learn about the...

1035
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:08,880
Well, the television audience won't care.

1036
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,460
Let's listen to the Marshall Plan.

1037
00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:12,580
You just said you're organizing a Marshall Plan

1038
00:35:12,580 --> 00:35:13,980
for the rebuilding of California.

1039
00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:15,340
What is that Marshall Plan?

1040
00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:18,920
Would you mind explaining, for my benefit, the

1041
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,660
Marshall Plan, the original Marshall Plan, just trying

1042
00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:23,180
to get some context as to why he's

1043
00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:24,460
calling it a Marshall Plan?

1044
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:26,460
Yeah, George...

1045
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:27,740
I think it's George C.

1046
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,700
Marshall, I could be wrong, was the general

1047
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:35,900
after World War II who instituted a build

1048
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:40,060
-back-better Europe plan to get Europeans to

1049
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:40,460
get the...

1050
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,380
especially to get the Germans back on their

1051
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:46,380
feet because it's a powerhouse operation that really

1052
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:47,560
produces a lot of stuff.

1053
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,280
They're an important part of the capitalist system.

1054
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,580
And we just dedicated a lot of money

1055
00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:55,960
and effort to re-establishing...

1056
00:35:56,940 --> 00:35:59,380
spent a lot of American taxpayer dollars to

1057
00:35:59,380 --> 00:36:01,560
get the capitalist system back on track in

1058
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:01,920
Europe.

1059
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,320
I mean, that was...

1060
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:06,420
Supposedly, it was to help the people, but

1061
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:09,100
no, it was to help big business get

1062
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:09,900
its act together.

1063
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:14,020
There's a tire factory that needs rebuilding.

1064
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,540
Maybe Firestone can own it.

1065
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:16,940
I mean, that kind of thing.

1066
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:18,860
Okay, so there you go.

1067
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,660
And we'll listen to the Marshall Plan clip,

1068
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,300
but bearing that in mind, he's not...

1069
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:26,380
And by the way, I can be correct

1070
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:27,760
in what I said, so...

1071
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,600
That's off the cuff.

1072
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:30,960
You're good at that.

1073
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,000
You should just say, there's no evidence, and

1074
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,660
then you cover it.

1075
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:37,520
There's no evidence.

1076
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,500
There's no evidence this is true.

1077
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:40,040
But this is not a Marshall Plan.

1078
00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:42,720
Who would represent Marshall in this deal?

1079
00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:45,240
Well, my question is, where's the money coming

1080
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:45,580
from?

1081
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:47,980
Unless you are doing exactly what you described...

1082
00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:50,060
You heard where the money's coming from with

1083
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:51,080
the first clip there.

1084
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,180
Companies.

1085
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:51,840
Companies.

1086
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,740
No.

1087
00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:53,600
Trump.

1088
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:54,760
We'll see.

1089
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,840
You just said you're organizing a Marshall Plan

1090
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,220
for the rebuilding of California.

1091
00:36:58,500 --> 00:36:59,600
What is that Marshall Plan?

1092
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,520
For this region, we're just starting to lay

1093
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:01,720
out.

1094
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,060
I mean, we're still fighting these fires, so

1095
00:37:04,060 --> 00:37:05,740
we're already talking to city leaders.

1096
00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:07,180
We're already talking to civic leaders.

1097
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:10,160
We're already talking to business leaders and nonprofits.

1098
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,880
We're talking to labor leaders.

1099
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,460
We're starting to organize how we can put

1100
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:17,180
together a collection of individuals on philanthropy for

1101
00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:20,000
recovery, how we can organize the region, how

1102
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,440
we can make sure that we are seeking

1103
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,620
federal assistance for the Olympics more broadly, but

1104
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:28,440
also federal assistance for the recovery efforts, and

1105
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,260
how we can galvanize the community with folks

1106
00:37:32,260 --> 00:37:35,540
that love this community to really develop a

1107
00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:38,680
mindset so that at scale we're dealing with

1108
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,000
the scope of this tragedy and responding to

1109
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,680
it at scale with efficiency, like the executive

1110
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,500
order I talked about, time value of delivering

1111
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,860
projects, addressing building codes, addressing permitting issues, and

1112
00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:54,640
moving forward to rebuilding and being more resilient.

1113
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,860
Yeah, that's going to take a lot of

1114
00:37:56,860 --> 00:37:58,840
change in California to do that.

1115
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,780
But maybe that's a great idea.

1116
00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:04,160
Maybe California becomes a new manufacturing hub.

1117
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:05,460
You know, just change everything.

1118
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:07,260
He's talking a big game here, man.

1119
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:09,820
We're driving people out of the state with

1120
00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,120
the taxation problems and all the rest of

1121
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,220
it.

1122
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Except John Ciavora.

1123
00:38:13,580 --> 00:38:15,220
He's just talking a big game because he

1124
00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:16,560
wants to make it look like he's actually

1125
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,380
trying to accomplish something.

1126
00:38:18,580 --> 00:38:18,760
Yeah.

1127
00:38:20,260 --> 00:38:23,060
And if you read between the lines, it

1128
00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:24,380
seems to me that they're just looking for

1129
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:26,700
federal money because, hey, look what happened to

1130
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:26,880
us.

1131
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,500
And meanwhile, of course, the people in North

1132
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,860
Carolina, including some cutie pie who was on

1133
00:38:33,860 --> 00:38:38,020
one of the Twitter posts, and she's going

1134
00:38:38,020 --> 00:38:39,060
and she's ranting.

1135
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,480
And I think others are too.

1136
00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:41,100
Of course.

1137
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Hey, what about us?

1138
00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:44,340
We got people living in the snow here.

1139
00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:45,260
They've got no houses.

1140
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,000
They're in tents.

1141
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,240
Nobody's doing anything.

1142
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:48,240
And you're going to give all the money

1143
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,800
to California all of a sudden?

1144
00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:51,380
The fire's not even out.

1145
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
How about Maui?

1146
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:56,440
Well, Maui's done.

1147
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:57,320
Yeah.

1148
00:38:57,940 --> 00:38:59,200
Oprah bought it.

1149
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,100
The last time I saw you in the

1150
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:04,400
Palisades on Wednesday, right after this fire started,

1151
00:39:04,460 --> 00:39:05,680
you were on the phone at the side

1152
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,020
of the road trying to reach President Biden.

1153
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:10,780
Subsequent to that, he pledged 100% of

1154
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:13,680
the disaster recovery relief for the next six

1155
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,040
months.

1156
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:15,160
Is that enough?

1157
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,320
Well, it's significant.

1158
00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:19,820
I mean, in fact, when I was on

1159
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:20,940
the phone, you saw me on the phone.

1160
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:22,080
I was trying to get the satellite to

1161
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,480
phone work.

1162
00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:24,300
I asked for 90%.

1163
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,360
And he said, no, I'm going to do

1164
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,220
100%.

1165
00:39:27,220 --> 00:39:29,420
So what is this 100% of?

1166
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,680
It's nothing.

1167
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,000
It's bull crap.

1168
00:39:33,340 --> 00:39:34,960
First of all, this phone call.

1169
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:38,040
He was being confronted by – many of

1170
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,860
us have seen the clip.

1171
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,920
He's confronted by some angry woman shaking her

1172
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,940
fist at him basically.

1173
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:44,680
And all of a sudden, oh, I got

1174
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,040
a call.

1175
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:46,780
He claims he had a call or he's

1176
00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:47,220
going to call.

1177
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,220
He had some reason to get on the

1178
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:49,660
phone.

1179
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,460
And it looked like a regular cell phone

1180
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:51,680
to me.

1181
00:39:51,740 --> 00:39:52,920
It didn't look like a sat phone.

1182
00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:53,340
I don't know.

1183
00:39:53,340 --> 00:39:57,280
Well, you know, the new iPhones, you wouldn't

1184
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,980
know this, but the new iPhones.

1185
00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:59,460
Of course not.

1186
00:39:59,620 --> 00:40:03,880
The new iPhones are able outside supposedly to,

1187
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:05,820
I think, do text.

1188
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:06,820
I don't think you can actually do a

1189
00:40:06,820 --> 00:40:07,120
call.

1190
00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:07,740
He was lying.

1191
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,140
Look, let's just be honest.

1192
00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:09,740
He was lying.

1193
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:10,520
That was the point.

1194
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:11,040
He was lying.

1195
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,800
He was just lying.

1196
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,760
Yeah, he was lying.

1197
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,860
But Biden did come out and say he

1198
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:16,520
was going to give a big support.

1199
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,660
I don't know why Gavin seems to have

1200
00:40:20,660 --> 00:40:27,120
this need to embellish the results of Biden's

1201
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,840
claim.

1202
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,420
He's going to give 100 percent of necessary

1203
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,900
money for the next six months to 90.

1204
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,480
To say, oh, you know, I only asked

1205
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,660
for 90 percent, but good old Joe, he

1206
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:37,300
gave us 100.

1207
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:41,660
Why is he adding this unnecessary piece of

1208
00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:43,560
information to make it sound like there's really

1209
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,000
a back and forth going on?

1210
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,880
I don't know.

1211
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,660
I mean, come on.

1212
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,320
Yeah, you're right.

1213
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:49,700
I was negotiating and he upped me.

1214
00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:50,340
It was crazy.

1215
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,620
I was on the phone satellite.

1216
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,540
Yeah.

1217
00:40:54,020 --> 00:40:54,600
All right.

1218
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,700
That's it for me.

1219
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,600
People have ever seen a true sat phone.

1220
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,460
Oh, yeah.

1221
00:40:58,500 --> 00:40:59,380
The thing is huge.

1222
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:00,720
It's huge.

1223
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,720
It's got an antenna.

1224
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,240
That's a big, giant, thick, giant antenna.

1225
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,460
Like a like a soup can.

1226
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:10,880
Please, please do not email me pictures of

1227
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,620
your sat phone that has a very small

1228
00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:12,940
antenna.

1229
00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:13,240
Okay.

1230
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,460
There's no sat phones with small antennas.

1231
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:16,560
We're just being humorous.

1232
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,160
If it had a small antenna and had

1233
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,960
that much power, it would blow your brain

1234
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,780
out if you used it.

1235
00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:22,080
We're just being humorous, people.

1236
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:22,680
All right.

1237
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:25,120
What's your next clip?

1238
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:25,940
All right.

1239
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,280
I guess I can wrap it here with

1240
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,300
there's not that much change from the last

1241
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:30,120
show, to be honest about.

1242
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,660
But we do have I did have to

1243
00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:33,400
get this real short part.

1244
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,040
I didn't play the whole I didn't clip

1245
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,940
the whole thing because it's this dumb.

1246
00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:39,840
This is the PBS, their take on the

1247
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,240
whole thing.

1248
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,520
And they have to throw climate change in.

1249
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Prolonged drought in those powerful Santa Ana winds

1250
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,980
set up extreme conditions that have fueled those

1251
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:50,420
devastating Los Angeles area wildfires.

1252
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,280
Conditions compounded by climate change.

1253
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,840
And today, researchers from NOAA and NASA underline

1254
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,600
that point, releasing analysis showing that 2024 was

1255
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,800
the hottest year in recorded history, dating back

1256
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,320
almost 200 years.

1257
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:07,120
Oh, yeah.

1258
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Yeah.

1259
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:08,200
Wait, hold on.

1260
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,260
Stop a second.

1261
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:15,760
The hottest year on record in dating back

1262
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,240
200.

1263
00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:19,000
Wait, there's records before 200 years ago.

1264
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:21,680
Oh, I have I have even better statistics.

1265
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Exactly.

1266
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Oh, this is the worst ever since forever.

1267
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,860
All recorded history is basically what he said.

1268
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:29,220
Yes.

1269
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,000
All for all recorded history.

1270
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,400
200 years ago.

1271
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:35,080
This is the hottest year ever.

1272
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,360
And it's like dubious.

1273
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:36,960
It would be great.

1274
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,700
If one of our producers could go into

1275
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,020
being it dot IO and get the clip

1276
00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:43,300
from every single year that says this is

1277
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,180
the hottest year on record, because it has

1278
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:47,480
been that way for every year, at least

1279
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,980
five years, maybe longer.

1280
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,820
They just keep doing it.

1281
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,740
Oh, hottest year ever.

1282
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:52,580
Hottest year on record.

1283
00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:54,740
So I want to get into some climate

1284
00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:57,540
change stuff because immediately, immediately.

1285
00:42:58,180 --> 00:43:00,720
I didn't even play the there were a

1286
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,960
couple of clips before the end of the

1287
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,260
year.

1288
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:07,040
Maybe we played one or two because Copernicus

1289
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,980
had already announced is the hottest year on

1290
00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:09,220
record.

1291
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,100
It was so dumb.

1292
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,580
And I think people are tired of it.

1293
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,180
So it wasn't even really a news story

1294
00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:14,480
anymore.

1295
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:16,600
But it popped to the top of the

1296
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,400
stack right away.

1297
00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:17,900
Oh, yes.

1298
00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:19,840
We have a climate change angle.

1299
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,300
We got nothing else to say.

1300
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,780
Let's do climate change.

1301
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560
It was spurred on, I might add, by

1302
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,560
our vice president who reemerged in the Oval

1303
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:34,460
Office at an incredible moment where our mentally

1304
00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:35,860
demented.

1305
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,340
Is that the right word?

1306
00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:40,340
Mentally retarded because it is a retardation.

1307
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,060
Challenged.

1308
00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:44,180
No, it's a retardation of his mental acuity.

1309
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,540
He he was talking almost like a conspiracy

1310
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:54,100
theorist, like this was a directed energy weapon.

1311
00:43:54,540 --> 00:43:56,320
I mean, he this could have been about

1312
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,540
the Maui fire.

1313
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:58,820
He could have been Tim Pool.

1314
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:00,420
It was amazing.

1315
00:44:00,420 --> 00:44:02,600
And then Kamala throws in the climate change

1316
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,820
kind of to save the day.

1317
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:04,660
Listen to this.

1318
00:44:04,660 --> 00:44:06,480
Look to me as I travel.

1319
00:44:06,860 --> 00:44:09,020
I was out with you in California.

1320
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,800
What it reminded me of reminded me of

1321
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,580
more of a war scene where you had

1322
00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:22,910
certain targets that were target bombarded.

1323
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:26,640
Bombarded artillery was just blew them up.

1324
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,560
No, it was with no rhyme or reason.

1325
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,100
In other words, you'd have this fire going

1326
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:37,400
crazy and burning everything down and three houses

1327
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,140
being fine.

1328
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,800
Nothing champion or neighborhoods that were still green.

1329
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:45,540
We still green.

1330
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,160
And next to a place that, for example,

1331
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,520
you know, we're just looking at a Secret

1332
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Service house.

1333
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,380
It was out there.

1334
00:44:53,780 --> 00:44:55,820
You know, all the vehicles are melted.

1335
00:44:55,820 --> 00:44:57,060
No, no.

1336
00:44:57,180 --> 00:45:00,100
The house next door still has green shrubbery

1337
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:00,840
on.

1338
00:45:01,220 --> 00:45:03,980
Hey, after his presidency is over, Biden can

1339
00:45:03,980 --> 00:45:04,920
do a podcast.

1340
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,340
This is fantastic.

1341
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,040
Really good.

1342
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,980
This is great.

1343
00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:10,780
What is what is the Secret Service house?

1344
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,760
I think that's Kamala Harris's Secret Service house.

1345
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,280
I don't know.

1346
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:15,920
It doesn't matter.

1347
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,820
He's talking space lasers here, people.

1348
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,860
And, you know, the house is fine.

1349
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,240
There's only, I think, four or five houses

1350
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,440
in that 200.

1351
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,720
You know, it's in the Pasadena area.

1352
00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:30,220
But my point is, it's almost what is

1353
00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:30,700
your point?

1354
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,700
Kamala, get in there.

1355
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,160
You get in there and change the messaging.

1356
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,340
It's a battle scene.

1357
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,700
But, you know, Mr. President, we saw that

1358
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:42,000
in South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida

1359
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,760
with hurricanes.

1360
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:43,300
Yeah.

1361
00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:46,100
This is also the nature of, to your

1362
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,800
point, this changing climate.

1363
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:48,940
To your point.

1364
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,580
No, he was making a directed.

1365
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,220
Your point is changing climate?

1366
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:53,740
What?

1367
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:55,560
So this.

1368
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:56,180
Wow.

1369
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:58,700
This was the big virtue signal like, OK,

1370
00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:00,080
we're switching to climate.

1371
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:00,400
Hello.

1372
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:00,820
Hello.

1373
00:46:01,020 --> 00:46:01,220
Hello.

1374
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,240
We're switching to climate, everybody.

1375
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,220
Smirkonish, get on your show.

1376
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,260
Here's the bottom line.

1377
00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:09,540
The prospect of change coming from Washington is

1378
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:12,940
dubious, especially where President-elect Trump has denied,

1379
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,360
ridiculed actually, the idea of a warming planet.

1380
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:16,740
No.

1381
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:18,780
And the public has shown no reluctance to

1382
00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:21,980
continue to build and live in areas repeatedly

1383
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:24,840
hit by wildfire and tropical storm, whether it's

1384
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,620
California, North Carolina or Florida.

1385
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,500
But maybe.

1386
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:30,040
Exactly the same.

1387
00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:32,380
North Carolina is being hit by tropical storms

1388
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:33,920
constantly and fire.

1389
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,300
No.

1390
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:34,640
No.

1391
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:37,660
He misunderstood what the vice president said because

1392
00:46:37,660 --> 00:46:39,680
she said those exact three states.

1393
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:42,280
Only he thought, what did he just.

1394
00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:43,320
He messed it up.

1395
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,320
He flubbed this line.

1396
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,960
But the message went out.

1397
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,440
This is this is the messaging.

1398
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,380
It's extreme weather equals climate change and areas

1399
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:56,240
repeated, which I have to say, I'm surprised.

1400
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,200
I'm really surprised that they're doing this.

1401
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,520
It's like, do you think the American people

1402
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,100
are stupid?

1403
00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:07,000
I mean, sorry for being rhetorical, but we're

1404
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,680
not stupid.

1405
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:09,820
We can see what's happening with the great

1406
00:47:09,820 --> 00:47:10,700
DEI fire.

1407
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:14,240
We understand this is a leadership breakdown.

1408
00:47:14,380 --> 00:47:15,180
We really do.

1409
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:18,400
But you're going to try and gaslight us.

1410
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,380
I'm I'm I'm going to go with the

1411
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:22,120
DEI fire.

1412
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,180
I like that a lot.

1413
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,020
It's good, isn't it?

1414
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:24,300
Yeah.

1415
00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:25,960
I forget who's whoever said that.

1416
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:27,360
Let me know who that is so we

1417
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,180
can credit you in.

1418
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:29,520
They all take credit.

1419
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,640
No, no, no, no, no.

1420
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,340
I did it.

1421
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,420
No, no, no.

1422
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,520
In areas repeatedly hit by wildfire and tropical

1423
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,160
storm, whether it's California, North Carolina or Florida.

1424
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,960
But maybe change is coming in the form

1425
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,020
of depleted insurance companies no longer covering areas

1426
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:47,740
prone to extreme weather.

1427
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,940
And if they won't insure, then banks won't

1428
00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:54,160
lend, leaving certain areas accessible only to the

1429
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,740
very few who can afford to purchase without

1430
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:57,260
a mortgage.

1431
00:47:57,740 --> 00:48:00,300
Without a mortgage and without insurance?

1432
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:00,860
Huh?

1433
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,200
How many will have to be uprooted before

1434
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,640
we realize?

1435
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,960
What kind of idiot are we talking about?

1436
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:05,840
Yeah, it's crazy.

1437
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,220
We're in it together.

1438
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,080
Where, sadly, the cause of the California wildfires

1439
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,940
seems like it's destined to become a partisan

1440
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:13,380
football.

1441
00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:16,960
Here's today's poll question at smirkandish.com.

1442
00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:18,980
Which is more to blame for the devastation

1443
00:48:18,980 --> 00:48:20,660
we're seeing in California?

1444
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,260
Is it the climate change or government mismanagement

1445
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:25,580
of resources?

1446
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:26,840
I love this.

1447
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:27,580
We're going to do a poll.

1448
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:29,660
We don't actually have a troll room that's

1449
00:48:29,660 --> 00:48:30,180
live.

1450
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,780
You know, we're just going to throw some.

1451
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,760
This is this reminds me.

1452
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,140
Where did you get this?

1453
00:48:35,140 --> 00:48:35,860
This is CNN.

1454
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,640
Smirkandish.

1455
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:40,280
You know, they have just deteriorated.

1456
00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:42,480
I mean, MSNBC is stuck with their guns

1457
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,940
and they still hate Trump in the same

1458
00:48:43,940 --> 00:48:44,420
old way.

1459
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:45,480
They haven't changed anything.

1460
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960
But CNN has actually gotten worse.

1461
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,600
Back in the MTV days, I did dial

1462
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,240
MTV.

1463
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,360
And now we're talking 88, 89.

1464
00:48:57,740 --> 00:49:00,400
And so you could call in and you

1465
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560
could say, I want this is my favorite

1466
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:02,820
video.

1467
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,700
I want poison.

1468
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:05,560
I want I want Janet Jackson.

1469
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,780
And it was always a racist voice like

1470
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:10,960
that.

1471
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,480
Was that right?

1472
00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:15,980
Well, it was standby because what happened is

1473
00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:19,520
new kids on the block hit the scene.

1474
00:49:20,180 --> 00:49:23,180
And MTV did not play new kids on

1475
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:23,600
the block.

1476
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,600
They hated new kids on the block because,

1477
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,420
you know, we're much cheaper than that.

1478
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,500
I'm not going to play Maki Maka.

1479
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,460
New kids on the block play all that.

1480
00:49:34,540 --> 00:49:35,820
That was another racist voice.

1481
00:49:35,980 --> 00:49:36,160
I did.

1482
00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:39,740
And what kind of a racist?

1483
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,900
I don't know.

1484
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:43,000
I don't know what's happened to me.

1485
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,440
I don't know.

1486
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:44,520
You lost it.

1487
00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:45,080
You lost it.

1488
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,340
But these stories are good.

1489
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:46,860
Keep going.

1490
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,180
So so you could call in one hundred

1491
00:49:50,180 --> 00:49:51,000
dial MTV.

1492
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:52,200
I remember the number.

1493
00:49:52,420 --> 00:49:54,320
And we'd count them down the top 10

1494
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,360
videos of the day right here on dial

1495
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,360
MTV, which later became Total Request Live with

1496
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Carson Daly, which shows you if I had

1497
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,140
not left MTV, I could have been on

1498
00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:03,720
the Today Show.

1499
00:50:03,980 --> 00:50:08,040
But anyway, so new kids on the block

1500
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,220
and they just kept it was number one.

1501
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,380
And then a certain point is just it

1502
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,320
wasn't on there anymore.

1503
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,560
They just said no.

1504
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,240
When people kept calling requesting new kids on

1505
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,600
the block, either we wouldn't play it like,

1506
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,900
oh, we don't have time for new kids

1507
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:22,440
on the block.

1508
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Got to go to a commercial or we

1509
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,660
just remove it from the list.

1510
00:50:27,780 --> 00:50:29,340
It was total phoniness.

1511
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,400
It was fake.

1512
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,660
And it was it was dumb.

1513
00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:33,260
And why?

1514
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,360
I know.

1515
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,920
Television fake.

1516
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,120
I can't believe it.

1517
00:50:39,740 --> 00:50:41,480
So smirk on it with this.

1518
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,860
We're doing a poll.

1519
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:43,760
We're doing a poll.

1520
00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:44,620
What do you think?

1521
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,920
Is it climate change or is it incompetency?

1522
00:50:48,860 --> 00:50:50,020
I don't know.

1523
00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:53,860
So then he brings on Senator Whitehouse, the

1524
00:50:53,860 --> 00:50:54,100
Democrat.

1525
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,620
Oh, that asshole from Rhode Island.

1526
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,320
Joining us now is Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of

1527
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,320
Rhode Island, who until recently was chair of

1528
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,320
the Senate Budget Committee.

1529
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:05,880
He is now the ranking member on the

1530
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,060
Committee of Environmental and Public Works.

1531
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:09,320
Thank you for being here, Senator.

1532
00:51:09,460 --> 00:51:11,180
Your whole heard my whole setup.

1533
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:14,520
What is most significant from your perspective, given

1534
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,960
how you've spent the last two years working

1535
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,780
on these issues?

1536
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,300
What do you think he's going to say?

1537
00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:21,640
Climate change is killing us.

1538
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,720
I would say two things.

1539
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,920
I would say, first, a long campaign of

1540
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,320
lies and disinformation by the fossil fuel industry

1541
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,120
is now colliding with the business model of

1542
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,760
the insurance industry, which requires it to accurately

1543
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,940
predict future risk.

1544
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,200
And this isn't just L.A. The risk

1545
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,660
is increasing in Florida, as you mentioned, even

1546
00:51:43,660 --> 00:51:44,960
states like Oklahoma.

1547
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,820
And the cascade that follows is this.

1548
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:54,980
Climate change makes risk to homeowners unpredictable, which

1549
00:51:54,980 --> 00:51:59,200
makes home insurance either unaffordable or flat unavailable.

1550
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,860
You see, in a backward way, in a

1551
00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:04,080
roundabout way, they're blaming Trump for this.

1552
00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:05,700
You have to understand this is what's so

1553
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:06,400
great about it.

1554
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,120
They have they are following the playbook because,

1555
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,140
you know, all these problems is because of

1556
00:52:14,140 --> 00:52:15,420
the fossil fuel industry.

1557
00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:17,540
And, you know, that's why the insurance industry

1558
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:20,700
can't accurately predict what's going to happen, even

1559
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:21,920
though they've done quite well.

1560
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:23,340
Their profits have been phenomenal.

1561
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,040
Have you seen it?

1562
00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:25,840
They're just doing exceptionally well.

1563
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:30,960
I should mention some years ago when, you

1564
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,040
know, the these Congress people who have invest

1565
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:35,600
a lot.

1566
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:39,260
They keep their the records are available to

1567
00:52:39,260 --> 00:52:40,920
the public, but they're in the basement of

1568
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,380
some building.

1569
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:43,140
You have to actually go physically to look

1570
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:43,480
at it.

1571
00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:44,740
Is that still the case?

1572
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,920
I don't think that's still the case.

1573
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,940
I believe it's still...

1574
00:52:46,940 --> 00:52:47,440
No, no, no.

1575
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:48,040
No, no.

1576
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:51,140
Because people, they're getting Pelosi's trading records.

1577
00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:51,660
Well, that's true.

1578
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:53,800
But I think it's because they're going into

1579
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,260
the basement and then publishing it.

1580
00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:58,180
This is not government data that you're...

1581
00:52:58,180 --> 00:52:59,940
Because I know there's a couple of websites

1582
00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:01,900
that show all these different holdings that these

1583
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:04,040
guys have and they're trading and what they're

1584
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:04,380
up to.

1585
00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:07,060
But this isn't something the government's doing.

1586
00:53:07,060 --> 00:53:11,220
That was what was requested by the people

1587
00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:11,960
that wanted...

1588
00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:15,720
So White House is a big investor in

1589
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:16,880
fossil fuels.

1590
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:17,760
Okay.

1591
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,260
Yes.

1592
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:18,940
Well, of course.

1593
00:53:19,140 --> 00:53:20,780
I mean, but still, we're going to use

1594
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:23,040
this to blame Trump, which makes more...

1595
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:23,660
Yeah, I think you're right.

1596
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:24,560
This is very subtle.

1597
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,680
And I think it's almost too subtle.

1598
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,980
Well, standby.

1599
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,040
Because nobody's buying this crap.

1600
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:30,780
Which makes mortgages...

1601
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:31,720
Well, I take it back.

1602
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:33,120
I take it back.

1603
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:33,540
Yeah.

1604
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,560
I think people are buying it.

1605
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,120
Which makes mortgages unavailable on that property or

1606
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,140
in that region.

1607
00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:43,980
And with mortgages unavailable, property values crash.

1608
00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:46,920
And the property values crash is predicted to

1609
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,440
be significant enough that it creates an economic

1610
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,520
cascade into the entire U.S. economy, just

1611
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,920
like 2008 did.

1612
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,720
And in fact, this is a global problem,

1613
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,280
leading the April issue of The Economist magazine,

1614
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,440
saying that climate change is shaking the foundations

1615
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,680
of the biggest asset class on the planet,

1616
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,420
real estate.

1617
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:09,200
So, we're looking potentially at going off a

1618
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,180
very steep cliff here when the rate of

1619
00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:15,260
insurance failure accelerates.

1620
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:16,620
Okay.

1621
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,560
So, he's obviously all in on the climate

1622
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,260
change, not thinking about government inadequacies.

1623
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,420
So, let's try and see if we can

1624
00:54:26,420 --> 00:54:27,280
get him to talk about that.

1625
00:54:27,420 --> 00:54:28,900
So, I read the report of the Budget

1626
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:31,240
Committee the way you've explained it, and the

1627
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,040
report made perfect sense to me.

1628
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,520
But you know that some are watching, paying

1629
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,700
attention and saying, wait a minute, the reservoir

1630
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,680
was empty, the fire hydrants had no water.

1631
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:43,340
They're even going so far as to introduce

1632
00:54:43,340 --> 00:54:46,300
DEI factors and questioning some of the hires

1633
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,280
that have been made among firefighters.

1634
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,820
You would say what to those people?

1635
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:55,560
There is obviously a lot of nonsense that

1636
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,780
is going to be propagated by fossil fuel

1637
00:54:57,780 --> 00:55:00,520
interests and the Republicans who are paid by

1638
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,700
fossil fuel interests.

1639
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:03,060
It's Twitter's fault.

1640
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,220
Where's our fossil fuel money?

1641
00:55:07,660 --> 00:55:08,420
Exactly.

1642
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,360
Where's our fossil fuel check?

1643
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,340
But if you look aside from just this

1644
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:19,180
fire, you also see fire risk and coastal

1645
00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:22,460
flooding risk, and in case of Oklahoma, hail

1646
00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:22,940
risk.

1647
00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:23,420
Hail!

1648
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:26,800
The risks are increasing, and you can't blame

1649
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,300
the floods in Florida.

1650
00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:29,060
Oh, hold on.

1651
00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:33,260
We know that there's never been hail, historically,

1652
00:55:33,340 --> 00:55:36,580
never been hail in Oklahoma, Texas.

1653
00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:39,540
It's all new because of climate change.

1654
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,080
I was just about to say, we've never

1655
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,640
had hail.

1656
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,900
No, it's never been an issue.

1657
00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:44,920
Never ever been an issue.

1658
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,020
And you can't blame the floods in Florida

1659
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:52,360
on a bad reservoir in California.

1660
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,080
There really is a risk profile that's changing.

1661
00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,520
We've gone from $2 billion plus disasters a

1662
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,680
year to 18.

1663
00:56:01,220 --> 00:56:03,420
As you pointed out, we've just...

1664
00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:04,080
You know what?

1665
00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:05,120
Who cares?

1666
00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:06,780
Just stop giving money to Ukraine.

1667
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,200
You'll make it back in two weeks.

1668
00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:12,580
Broken through the 1.5 degrees danger barrier

1669
00:56:12,580 --> 00:56:13,700
for climate change.

1670
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:14,440
Danger barrier!

1671
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,000
There's always going to be some local made

1672
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,900
up excuse, but the fact of the matter

1673
00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:20,140
is that the weather is changing.

1674
00:56:20,220 --> 00:56:21,680
It is changing from climate change.

1675
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,740
That is what is changing the risk.

1676
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,020
And the insurance companies have to look forward

1677
00:56:27,020 --> 00:56:30,240
and try to judge this accurately for their

1678
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,260
stockholders and for their business model.

1679
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,080
And they're the ones who are saying across

1680
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,500
the country, we've got to back off.

1681
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,400
We've got to raise rates.

1682
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,180
We've got to get out.

1683
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,880
What the hell's going to happen here?

1684
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,700
I don't think he answered the question, but

1685
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:44,000
OK, that's fine.

1686
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,880
It was all misinformation, disinformation.

1687
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,060
We're going to wrap it up with these

1688
00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:47,720
two short clips.

1689
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,060
Social media reaction from the world of X.

1690
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:50,700
What do we have?

1691
00:56:50,820 --> 00:56:52,220
A lot of reaction, I'm told already.

1692
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,020
I'm not surprised.

1693
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,640
Unfortunate had no clue that Smirconish was a

1694
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,720
climate cult guy.

1695
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,240
Really?

1696
00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,760
You know why?

1697
00:56:58,940 --> 00:56:59,080
Really?

1698
00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:02,700
So first he's going to take some some

1699
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:05,600
responses on X and he's going to discredit

1700
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,480
them because someone called him a climate cult

1701
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:08,720
guy.

1702
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,060
Really?

1703
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,780
Really?

1704
00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:11,420
A climate cult guy.

1705
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:11,960
Really?

1706
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,460
You know why?

1707
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,820
You know why Smirconish has become a climate

1708
00:57:15,820 --> 00:57:16,480
cult guy?

1709
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:16,900
Oh, yes.

1710
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,020
Because I have two things.

1711
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,340
Take take it off the screen.

1712
00:57:19,340 --> 00:57:20,760
I have two things.

1713
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,920
I have a TV set.

1714
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:22,460
Hold on.

1715
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,060
Is he talking about himself in the third

1716
00:57:24,060 --> 00:57:24,480
person?

1717
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:24,960
Yes.

1718
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Yeah.

1719
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:25,740
Yes.

1720
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,800
Oh, what an egomaniac.

1721
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,860
That's what you do.

1722
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,800
You know what Dvorak says?

1723
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:32,180
What does Dvorak say?

1724
00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:33,840
He says bull crap.

1725
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,000
Why?

1726
00:57:35,180 --> 00:57:37,380
You know why Smirconish has become a climate

1727
00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:38,060
cult guy?

1728
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,560
Because I have two things.

1729
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,880
Take take it off the screen.

1730
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:42,300
I have two things.

1731
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,520
I have a TV set and a window.

1732
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,100
Hey, you got a TV set and a

1733
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:47,360
window.

1734
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,720
I do.

1735
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,040
I have a TV set and I have

1736
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,540
a window.

1737
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,640
You could be a climate cult guy.

1738
00:57:54,740 --> 00:57:55,680
You got a TV set and a window.

1739
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:55,860
I could be.

1740
00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:56,660
Yeah, I should be.

1741
00:57:56,660 --> 00:57:57,080
Probably.

1742
00:57:57,420 --> 00:57:58,040
I'd be on CNN.

1743
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,300
You should demand your gig.

1744
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Okay.

1745
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Do you need anything more than to know

1746
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,900
what's going on, big picture, than to have

1747
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:08,560
a television set and a window?

1748
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
That's all you need to understand science is

1749
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,420
a television set and a window.

1750
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:15,620
Preferably tuned to something mainstream.

1751
00:58:15,620 --> 00:58:17,780
Let's wrap it up with the poll results.

1752
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:20,620
So there's the results so far of today's

1753
00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:21,220
poll question.

1754
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,560
It's for kind of a lot of voting.

1755
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:22,980
Damn.

1756
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Thirty seven thousand nine hundred and twenty nine,

1757
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:28,580
which is more to blame for the devastation

1758
00:58:28,580 --> 00:58:29,700
of the California wildfire.

1759
00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:31,920
Seventy three percent saying it's climate change.

1760
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:32,860
Twenty seven percent.

1761
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,160
Almost a third.

1762
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:34,980
Bull crap.

1763
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,860
Saying government mismanagement of resources.

1764
00:58:38,140 --> 00:58:41,060
Seventy three percent says climate change.

1765
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,540
Of the five people watching.

1766
00:58:43,540 --> 00:58:46,740
You know, this was a very well set

1767
00:58:46,740 --> 00:58:49,740
up presentation by you because you brought in

1768
00:58:49,740 --> 00:58:51,240
that MTV nonsense.

1769
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:51,780
Yeah.

1770
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:51,940
Yeah.

1771
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,240
Yeah.

1772
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:52,820
Yeah.

1773
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,240
It's a total scam.

1774
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,520
It's rigged, man.

1775
00:58:58,180 --> 00:58:59,360
You can't trust CNN.

1776
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,600
Now, unfortunately.

1777
00:59:02,020 --> 00:59:03,280
Which really, by the way, I should mention

1778
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:03,580
this.

1779
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,600
I am stunned that CNN is as bad

1780
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,560
as it is with when you have one

1781
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,360
of the board members of discovering the network

1782
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,120
that owns them.

1783
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,780
The corporation that owns them is John Malone.

1784
00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:16,340
Yeah.

1785
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:19,900
John Malone is one of the most staunchest

1786
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:22,940
conservative Republicans in business history.

1787
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,920
And he puts up with this.

1788
00:59:25,140 --> 00:59:27,800
He's all he's in his 80s, an octogenarian,

1789
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,660
as you call him.

1790
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400
And so I guess he's lost his his.

1791
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,960
He needs to get testosterone or something because

1792
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,400
he's getting pushed around.

1793
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,560
Let's go around the world and check in

1794
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:38,960
with the weather.

1795
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,320
All right.

1796
00:59:39,340 --> 00:59:40,260
It is time for a check of the

1797
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:40,540
weather.

1798
00:59:40,820 --> 00:59:42,080
Samara Theodore has the latest.

1799
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:42,920
Samara, what are you tracking?

1800
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,460
Right now, we're talking about the Pacific Palisades

1801
00:59:45,460 --> 00:59:46,360
and the fires out there.

1802
00:59:46,420 --> 00:59:48,640
But take a look at this stunning visual

1803
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,540
of this fire whirl here hitting the ground.

1804
00:59:50,660 --> 00:59:51,740
Absolutely terrifying.

1805
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:54,220
And, you know, as the climate is changing,

1806
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,580
we are seeing that these wildfires are becoming

1807
00:59:56,580 --> 00:59:58,280
more extreme and we're getting more extreme weather

1808
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:58,680
events.

1809
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,720
In fact, in 2024, warmest year for the

1810
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,260
Earth since 1850, when we've been keeping records,

1811
01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:06,960
Earth's annual temperature was above that one point

1812
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,060
five degrees Celsius threshold.

1813
01:00:09,220 --> 01:00:11,040
And what impact does that potentially mean?

1814
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,940
Forty one percent more land is burned by

1815
01:00:13,940 --> 01:00:15,280
wildfires as a result.

1816
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,220
That's a look at the forecast across the

1817
01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:17,480
country.

1818
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:18,840
Let's see what's going on in your neighborhood.

1819
01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:21,640
OK, in my neighborhood, my neighborhood is chilly

1820
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,460
here in Texas.

1821
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:24,300
We are freezing during the night.

1822
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,580
But, OK, the danger barrier has been crossed.

1823
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:31,340
And the National Oceanic guys, they're here to

1824
01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:31,860
tell us why.

1825
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:35,380
Tom, how does 2024 rank in the climate

1826
01:00:35,380 --> 01:00:35,780
record?

1827
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,140
In the climate record.

1828
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:38,740
Oh, let's listen.

1829
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,200
At the very top, 2024 is the second

1830
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,220
year in a row where global temperatures were

1831
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:46,900
the hottest in our at least 175 year

1832
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:47,240
record.

1833
01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:48,500
175?

1834
01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:51,160
I wish they could get their numbers straight.

1835
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,400
200 since time began, 200, 175.

1836
01:00:57,500 --> 01:00:58,220
This is NOAA.

1837
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,640
You'd think that that would be the guys,

1838
01:00:59,740 --> 01:00:59,940
right?

1839
01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:03,040
That is kind of scary to hear that

1840
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,620
our climate continues to get warmer and warmer.

1841
01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:08,680
And how does this impact Coloradans and other

1842
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:09,580
Western states?

1843
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:12,760
Yeah, so we're experiencing the impacts from our

1844
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,760
warming temperatures and our climate change every single

1845
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,080
day.

1846
01:01:16,220 --> 01:01:18,000
But for the most part, especially for folks

1847
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,680
out in Colorado, you experience that through hotter

1848
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,200
temperatures during the summertime.

1849
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,080
You can experience that where precipitation falls as

1850
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,680
rain and not as much as snow.

1851
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,900
It can lead to there being heavy rainfall

1852
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:31,440
events during periods of the year.

1853
01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:32,860
It can lead to flash flooding.

1854
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,860
It can also lead to even drier than

1855
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:35,720
average conditions.

1856
01:01:35,980 --> 01:01:37,760
So it can lead to flash flooding, more

1857
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,100
rain and drier conditions.

1858
01:01:39,220 --> 01:01:40,940
It's amazing, this climate change.

1859
01:01:41,020 --> 01:01:42,900
Really, really hot temperatures and not a lot

1860
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:43,200
of rain.

1861
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:43,920
It can dry out.

1862
01:01:44,140 --> 01:01:45,060
I don't understand.

1863
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,100
It's like really, a lot of rain.

1864
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:47,760
It's crazy.

1865
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,980
And it can lead to really, really dry

1866
01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:50,280
weather.

1867
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,480
You know, it's like, what do you call

1868
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:51,860
it, weather.

1869
01:01:51,860 --> 01:01:55,960
Really, really, really, really, really quickly.

1870
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,300
That's the conditions for wildfires to break out.

1871
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,720
If only they had more rain.

1872
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,980
I can't imagine the job of trying to

1873
01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:09,820
take the Earth's temperature.

1874
01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:13,400
How does NASA and NOAA undertake that project?

1875
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,740
You stick a thermometer up its butt.

1876
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:18,280
Well, we're not alone.

1877
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,800
We have the cooperation of countries across the

1878
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,960
entire globe, who basically have weather stations situated

1879
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,940
across their countries.

1880
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Allow all of us to grab all of

1881
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,380
that data, not only land-based, but also

1882
01:02:29,380 --> 01:02:29,940
ocean-based.

1883
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,740
We have buoys in our oceans and ships.

1884
01:02:32,060 --> 01:02:33,780
We take all of that information and be

1885
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,500
able to basically quilt it together into a

1886
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:38,580
global product, which allows us to tell you

1887
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:40,740
all that 2024 was indeed the warmest year

1888
01:02:40,740 --> 01:02:41,040
on record.

1889
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,620
There it is, indeed the warmest year on

1890
01:02:42,620 --> 01:02:42,760
record.

1891
01:02:42,820 --> 01:02:44,260
That is the global product.

1892
01:02:44,660 --> 01:02:46,200
It is atrocious.

1893
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,920
Now, we knew 15 years ago that children

1894
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,860
in the UK would never see snow again

1895
01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:54,440
except in snow globes.

1896
01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:55,960
Let's check out the UK.

1897
01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:58,900
Well, the cold snap continues with the UK

1898
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:02,660
recording its chilliest January night in 15 years.

1899
01:03:02,860 --> 01:03:06,020
Temperatures fell as low as minus 18 degrees

1900
01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:08,680
in northern Scotland on Friday, and the frost

1901
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,040
is being felt across the UK as the

1902
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,420
cold weather is set to continue into next

1903
01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:13,680
week.

1904
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,260
Talk to the guy, he's standing out there

1905
01:03:17,260 --> 01:03:19,320
in the snow, in the snow.

1906
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,320
If we weren't doing the show so hard.

1907
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,760
I always find that hilarious.

1908
01:03:23,060 --> 01:03:24,460
But do you remember the articles?

1909
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:26,320
Oh, children will only see snow in snow

1910
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:26,420
globes.

1911
01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:27,480
Oh, yeah, no, never see snow again.

1912
01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:28,960
Only in snow globes.

1913
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,660
This is why we are allowed to be

1914
01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:35,000
skeptical, in fact, deniers of this nonsense, because

1915
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,120
we've been hearing this for more than 17

1916
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:38,780
years.

1917
01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:41,860
And we remember when it was Leonard Nimoy

1918
01:03:41,860 --> 01:03:43,940
in the blizzard telling us it was going

1919
01:03:43,940 --> 01:03:46,240
to be global cooling and we're going to

1920
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,380
a new ice age.

1921
01:03:47,540 --> 01:03:49,080
It is all a lie.

1922
01:03:49,220 --> 01:03:50,340
It is a money grab.

1923
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,240
It is a grift.

1924
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,820
I'm going to wind up this nonsense with

1925
01:03:53,820 --> 01:03:56,460
the clips from NPR, which you just won't

1926
01:03:56,460 --> 01:03:56,920
believe.

1927
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,360
Our national treasure helps us understand why this

1928
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,900
is 2024.

1929
01:04:02,300 --> 01:04:04,820
It's the hottest year on record ever.

1930
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:07,300
Let's put some numbers on this extraordinary heat.

1931
01:04:08,500 --> 01:04:09,420
Extraordinary heat.

1932
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,340
Extraordinary heat.

1933
01:04:10,340 --> 01:04:12,760
It's been the coolest summer in Texas that

1934
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:13,360
I can recall.

1935
01:04:13,860 --> 01:04:14,840
Extraordinary heat.

1936
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:18,460
Hey, Curry, weather's not climate, OK?

1937
01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:20,860
Yeah, we remember that one.

1938
01:04:21,540 --> 01:04:22,480
Until it was.

1939
01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:25,820
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA,

1940
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,800
and NASA just announced their official numbers on

1941
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:29,040
Friday.

1942
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,380
And they both say that 2024 was about

1943
01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:35,300
1.5 degrees Celsius hotter than it was

1944
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:37,740
back in the 1800s before people started burning

1945
01:04:37,740 --> 01:04:39,040
tons of fossil fuels.

1946
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,700
For reference, that's about 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit.

1947
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,360
And 1.5 C, you might have heard

1948
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:45,920
of it, it's kind of a symbolic number

1949
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,740
because back in the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement,

1950
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,400
most countries tried to pledge to keep global

1951
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,840
warming to less than 2 C and ideally

1952
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,820
less than 1.5. And I want to

1953
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:58,380
be clear that being past that number for

1954
01:04:58,380 --> 01:05:00,880
just one year, that doesn't mean those goals

1955
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,900
are breached, but it's not a good sign.

1956
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,920
But you said last year was actually hotter

1957
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,480
than scientists had anticipated?

1958
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,960
Yeah, 2023 and 2024 were both off the

1959
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,520
charts hot.

1960
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:12,100
Off the charts!

1961
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:15,060
Here's how climate scientist Zeke Hausfather describes some

1962
01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:17,020
of the temperature records from 2023.

1963
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,720
Gob-smackingly bananas.

1964
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Very descriptive.

1965
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,300
Can you believe this?

1966
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,200
Can you believe this?

1967
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,420
They throw to a clip of a scientist

1968
01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:30,640
like a Nat Pop and they just throw

1969
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,140
that in.

1970
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,920
Gob-smackingly bananas.

1971
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,120
Come on.

1972
01:05:39,820 --> 01:05:42,600
Wait, wait, wait, very descriptive of what?

1973
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:46,380
It's not descriptive at all, it's just hyperbole.

1974
01:05:46,540 --> 01:05:47,320
Yeah, yeah.

1975
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,780
Hotter than scientists even expected.

1976
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,240
Hotter!

1977
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,120
That might not sound like a lot, but

1978
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,460
Hausfather says it's equivalent to about a decade

1979
01:05:54,460 --> 01:05:55,260
of global warming.

1980
01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:57,960
And that really matters because it's important to

1981
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,540
know if this extra heat represents a permanent

1982
01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:02,640
change to the climate or something else.

1983
01:06:03,020 --> 01:06:03,660
And why?

1984
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:04,660
Why?

1985
01:06:04,660 --> 01:06:06,260
That is definitely the question.

1986
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:06,900
Why?

1987
01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:08,880
That's the question.

1988
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:09,220
Why?

1989
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,180
Can we answer the question?

1990
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,320
Scientists have looked at so many things.

1991
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,200
They looked at stuff like the solar cycle.

1992
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:16,240
That wasn't it.

1993
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:16,680
Nope.

1994
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:18,560
They looked at dust in the air.

1995
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:18,980
Nope.

1996
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:19,900
That wasn't it either.

1997
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,880
And then there was this other idea about

1998
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,680
a volcano that erupted in 2022.

1999
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:24,300
No.

2000
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:26,440
And that volcano shot water vapor into the

2001
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,920
atmosphere, which could theoretically heat up the planet.

2002
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:31,540
But that didn't pan out either.

2003
01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:33,420
It's you, you stupid humans.

2004
01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:37,320
So a number of possibilities, but no one

2005
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,040
thing could be held responsible for those numbers.

2006
01:06:40,060 --> 01:06:40,980
Oh, come on now.

2007
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:42,800
What else is on the suspect list?

2008
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,940
Oh, John, what else could be on the

2009
01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:45,800
suspect list?

2010
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,780
What have we not discussed yet?

2011
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,720
What could be on the suspect?

2012
01:06:49,820 --> 01:06:50,820
It wasn't the volcano.

2013
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:52,360
It wasn't the sun.

2014
01:06:52,660 --> 01:06:53,460
Cough farts?

2015
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,840
El Niño was El Niño, which is part

2016
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:56,960
of this natural climate cycle.

2017
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,860
And during El Niño years, the planet is

2018
01:06:58,860 --> 01:06:59,820
generally warmer.

2019
01:07:00,260 --> 01:07:02,620
But when it first got unexpectedly hot, El

2020
01:07:02,620 --> 01:07:04,520
Niño hadn't even started yet.

2021
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:07,600
Devin Schmidt is a climate scientist at NASA's

2022
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,000
Goddard Institute of Space Studies.

2023
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,840
It's hard to blame the El Niño for

2024
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,000
things that happened before the El Niño even

2025
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,740
really started.

2026
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,660
It turns out that El Niño probably had

2027
01:07:16,660 --> 01:07:18,300
some effect on 2024's numbers.

2028
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,160
But overall, scientists were still scratching their heads.

2029
01:07:21,460 --> 01:07:22,060
Oh, really?

2030
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,500
They didn't read the memo?

2031
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:25,280
You're supposed to blame humans?

2032
01:07:25,420 --> 01:07:27,360
Thank you for reminding us of cow farts.

2033
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:28,660
And burps.

2034
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:29,580
And farts.

2035
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:30,520
And burps.

2036
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,640
And what did they find?

2037
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,100
Yeah, they went to one other place, Scott.

2038
01:07:34,220 --> 01:07:35,920
The next thing they looked at were these

2039
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,320
weird kinds of clouds.

2040
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,120
These are the tracks of ships.

2041
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,940
It's like a contrail from an airplane.

2042
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:44,620
Uh, you mean chemtrails?

2043
01:07:46,180 --> 01:07:47,060
Holy crap.

2044
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,480
Now they're just coming out and saying it.

2045
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,660
It kind of looks like contrails, but it's

2046
01:07:51,660 --> 01:07:51,940
not.

2047
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,900
It starts as a contrail, but then it

2048
01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:55,300
kind of spreads out.

2049
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,780
But from a ship over the ocean.

2050
01:07:57,060 --> 01:07:58,200
That's Andrew Gettleman.

2051
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,040
He's a climate scientist at the Pacific Northwest

2052
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:00,840
National Laboratory.

2053
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,500
Ships burn fossil fuels, and the pollution from

2054
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:06,220
that actually creates these cloud trails behind them

2055
01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:07,500
that cool Earth.

2056
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,460
And in 2020, that ship fuel actually— Ships?

2057
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:12,020
Ships.

2058
01:08:12,260 --> 01:08:14,200
Wait, see, the ships cool the Earth.

2059
01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:16,040
But wait, in 2020, something changed.

2060
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,740
And in 2020, that ship fuel actually got

2061
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:20,080
cleaner.

2062
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:23,120
And that meant smaller ship track clouds and,

2063
01:08:23,580 --> 01:08:24,899
in turn, a hotter planet.

2064
01:08:25,180 --> 01:08:27,640
And that could actually make up about half—

2065
01:08:28,340 --> 01:08:30,020
You've got to follow the logic here.

2066
01:08:30,020 --> 01:08:31,819
There is no logic.

2067
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,600
So the ships created these clouds.

2068
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:35,620
Not airplanes, no.

2069
01:08:35,899 --> 01:08:37,500
The ships created these clouds.

2070
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,120
But since shipping fuel got cleaner— I must

2071
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,080
have missed that story.

2072
01:08:43,460 --> 01:08:46,260
Since shipping fuel got cleaner, there's no more

2073
01:08:46,260 --> 01:08:46,859
clouds.

2074
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,800
Smaller ship track clouds and, in turn, a

2075
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,520
hotter planet.

2076
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,340
And that could actually make up about half

2077
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:54,180
of the mystery heat.

2078
01:08:54,620 --> 01:08:56,700
And scientists think decreases in other clouds that

2079
01:08:56,700 --> 01:08:58,600
were also thermally— Oh, hold on a second.

2080
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:02,260
Do you remember the— Why isn't the tides

2081
01:09:02,260 --> 01:09:02,680
rising?

2082
01:09:02,819 --> 01:09:06,640
Because Australia's acting like a giant sponge.

2083
01:09:06,859 --> 01:09:07,819
Remember that story?

2084
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,660
Australia's acting like a giant sponge.

2085
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,600
Australia is like a giant sponge.

2086
01:09:15,779 --> 01:09:18,520
And so the oceans aren't rising because this

2087
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,500
sponge-like quality of Australia, somehow, is sucking

2088
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:23,200
up the water.

2089
01:09:23,620 --> 01:09:24,680
You don't remember that?

2090
01:09:24,779 --> 01:09:26,040
Well, somebody, I'm sure, does.

2091
01:09:26,140 --> 01:09:27,660
But I have to go dig it up

2092
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:27,920
now.

2093
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,760
These crazy cockamamie stories that are just reverse

2094
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:37,180
-engineered to explain why something doesn't happen the

2095
01:09:37,180 --> 01:09:38,160
way they want it to.

2096
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:41,899
I think this is actually engineered to bring

2097
01:09:41,899 --> 01:09:43,760
in something that they do want.

2098
01:09:43,899 --> 01:09:45,100
It's 25 seconds.

2099
01:09:45,380 --> 01:09:47,460
And scientists think decreases in other clouds that

2100
01:09:47,460 --> 01:09:49,560
were also formerly caused by pollution might make

2101
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,520
up another chunk.

2102
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,000
So let me understand this.

2103
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:56,200
Clearer skies, sunnier skies caused by less pollution

2104
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,700
ends up promoting climate change?

2105
01:10:00,060 --> 01:10:01,640
Yeah, it's not ideal.

2106
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,300
But scientists like Schmidt say that that just

2107
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:07,120
means cutting fossil fuel emissions is even more

2108
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,620
important to get at that main driver of

2109
01:10:09,620 --> 01:10:10,220
climate change.

2110
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:10,660
What?

2111
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,500
We have a solution, everybody.

2112
01:10:15,620 --> 01:10:16,480
Don't worry about it.

2113
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,920
We just do some chemtrails and we'll bring

2114
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:19,740
the clouds back.

2115
01:10:20,540 --> 01:10:23,580
This, they are, it's, and that was NPR.

2116
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:25,240
NPR.

2117
01:10:26,540 --> 01:10:27,060
Meanwhile.

2118
01:10:27,740 --> 01:10:29,500
Don't send them your money, people.

2119
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,700
Meanwhile, the entire finance industry, finance, they're out.

2120
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,280
They're not participating in it anymore.

2121
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:44,800
These, these propagandists are tilting at windmills because

2122
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,460
no one is going to pay for this

2123
01:10:46,460 --> 01:10:46,700
stuff.

2124
01:10:46,820 --> 01:10:47,800
Everybody's out.

2125
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,440
You're just trying to gaslight everybody, but there's

2126
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:51,420
no more money.

2127
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,880
The banks are done with funding this nonsense.

2128
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,620
As Los Angeles burns and climate scientists paint

2129
01:10:56,620 --> 01:10:58,700
a darker vision of the future, the heat

2130
01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:00,780
is on the world's financial leaders to help

2131
01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:01,620
solve the crisis.

2132
01:11:02,140 --> 01:11:03,860
But after committing to the cause a few

2133
01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:06,960
years ago, big American institutions are now getting

2134
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,740
cold feet.

2135
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:10,740
A similar chill in Canada may be on

2136
01:11:10,740 --> 01:11:11,120
the way.

2137
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:13,900
Right here, right now is where finance draws

2138
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:14,240
the line.

2139
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:16,700
A splashy statement from a different time.

2140
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:19,120
That's former Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney

2141
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,280
on stage at a U.N. climate conference

2142
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,160
in 2021, spearheading a huge alliance of financial

2143
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,080
institutions committed to getting emissions down.

2144
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:31,860
Quite frankly, facilities that do not scale up

2145
01:11:31,860 --> 01:11:34,500
aren't relevant to the scale of the problem.

2146
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:36,680
Fast forward and some of those facilities, those

2147
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,960
banks, have bailed on this so-called net

2148
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,160
zero banking alliance.

2149
01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:43,000
From Goldman Sachs to Citigroup, every major U

2150
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,920
.S. bank has left.

2151
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,360
JPMorgan Chase, the last to quit this week,

2152
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:48,780
saying little more than it'll still focus on

2153
01:11:48,780 --> 01:11:52,040
low-carbon technologies while advancing energy security.

2154
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:53,880
Disappointing, if not surprising.

2155
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,300
Patti McCulley is with the French non-profit

2156
01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:57,460
Reclaim Finance.

2157
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,060
The idea of the voluntary alliance was for

2158
01:12:00,060 --> 01:12:02,920
banks to focus money into renewables and eventually

2159
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,660
away from fossil fuels.

2160
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:06,640
But in the U.S., the winds have

2161
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:07,000
shifted.

2162
01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:08,900
All the U.S. banks are running scared

2163
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:11,960
of Trump 2.0. Their fear of being

2164
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,960
attacked by Trump is much greater than their

2165
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,900
climate commitment.

2166
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:18,320
So thank God you can bring it back

2167
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:18,820
to Trump.

2168
01:12:18,940 --> 01:12:19,680
This is great.

2169
01:12:20,260 --> 01:12:22,560
Oh, Trump 2.0, which is the new

2170
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:22,980
thing now.

2171
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,260
Trump 2.0. And because of Trump, just

2172
01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:29,400
the fear of Trump, the banks are pulling

2173
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:29,720
out.

2174
01:12:29,820 --> 01:12:31,860
He is responsible for our future deaths.

2175
01:12:32,060 --> 01:12:34,620
The entire ESG scheme is designed to funnel

2176
01:12:34,620 --> 01:12:35,940
your retirement money.

2177
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:38,340
During his last campaign, President-elect Donald Trump

2178
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:43,160
galvanized voters against ESG, environmental, social and governance

2179
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:43,840
investing.

2180
01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:46,500
But Adam Scott, climate finance expert and executive

2181
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:49,340
director at Shift Action, says the backlash isn't

2182
01:12:49,340 --> 01:12:50,920
driven by public desire.

2183
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,620
It's not a real political movement of citizens.

2184
01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:56,260
It's a cynical attempt by the fossil fuel

2185
01:12:56,260 --> 01:12:59,140
industry, in collusion with governments, to try to

2186
01:12:59,140 --> 01:13:02,000
slow down this inevitable transition.

2187
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,960
The fear is that all of Canada's major

2188
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,240
banks might follow suit, though some critics say

2189
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,820
that's not necessarily a bad thing, considering these

2190
01:13:08,820 --> 01:13:11,740
institutions continue to fund fossil fuel projects.

2191
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,240
Ultimately, these are supposed to be coalitions of

2192
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:14,600
leaders.

2193
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,860
Their commitments are meaningful, and it's not helpful

2194
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:20,780
to pretend that these institutions are taking this

2195
01:13:20,780 --> 01:13:21,180
seriously.

2196
01:13:21,260 --> 01:13:24,380
Notice that even the Canadian banks, they're afraid

2197
01:13:24,380 --> 01:13:27,120
of Trump 2.0. The Canadian Banking Association

2198
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,180
says its members know they have a role

2199
01:13:29,180 --> 01:13:31,800
in the energy transition, but decide their alliance

2200
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,400
participation individually.

2201
01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:36,040
Another factor, experts say, is the complexity of

2202
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,160
net zero itself.

2203
01:13:37,420 --> 01:13:40,020
Diane-Laure Régéliez is with Western University's Ivy

2204
01:13:40,020 --> 01:13:40,820
Business School.

2205
01:13:40,940 --> 01:13:43,900
There were new forms of climate exposure, new

2206
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:46,720
carbon emissions that were not really anticipated.

2207
01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:49,700
So for them, right now, it's extremely difficult

2208
01:13:49,700 --> 01:13:51,060
to commit to net zero.

2209
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,620
But she adds all institutions need to shift

2210
01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:56,180
to longer-term thinking as climate change raises

2211
01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:59,200
financial risks, such as property loss from fire

2212
01:13:59,200 --> 01:13:59,840
disasters.

2213
01:14:00,020 --> 01:14:03,720
It's a very rational economic decision.

2214
01:14:04,060 --> 01:14:05,620
Each day we wait, it's a loss of

2215
01:14:05,620 --> 01:14:07,420
opportunity, and it's going to be more costly

2216
01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:08,120
in the future.

2217
01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:11,160
But even with these high-profile exits, experts

2218
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,580
see hope, with European alliance members carrying the

2219
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:15,840
net zero torch forward.

2220
01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:19,080
Please, Europe, you do it.

2221
01:14:19,140 --> 01:14:19,640
You do it.

2222
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,120
You do it.

2223
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,000
You save the world.

2224
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:22,600
Never talk about China.

2225
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,280
I feel like it's a scheme to sucker

2226
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,620
Europe into doing it because they're so dumb.

2227
01:14:26,980 --> 01:14:28,860
Yeah, well, they're...

2228
01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:30,640
Well, you know, we can't do it over

2229
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,560
here because we've got this Trump guy, and

2230
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,680
he's going to make life difficult.

2231
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,840
So we're going to have to go all

2232
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,960
in on fossil fuel, get cheap energy so

2233
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,360
everybody, all prices come down, because cheap energy

2234
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,060
makes a huge difference in the economy.

2235
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,220
But you Europeans, you can hold the banner

2236
01:14:46,220 --> 01:14:46,720
high.

2237
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:47,820
Yes, Queen Ursula.

2238
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:49,000
You dumb Europeans.

2239
01:14:49,180 --> 01:14:49,620
Go on.

2240
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:50,400
Go do it.

2241
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,920
The problem is their parliamentary systems, and it's...

2242
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,380
They can't.

2243
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:55,580
They just can't.

2244
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:57,340
I mean, they would have...

2245
01:14:57,340 --> 01:15:00,180
Europe needs a revolution, but they're not going

2246
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:00,700
to do it.

2247
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:02,940
They have been muted.

2248
01:15:03,420 --> 01:15:05,480
They have been beaten down and muted.

2249
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,020
They haven't...

2250
01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:07,260
There's no way they can do it.

2251
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,840
Look at Geert Wilders.

2252
01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:10,080
This was the far right.

2253
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,140
You know, his party won.

2254
01:15:12,380 --> 01:15:13,000
What happens?

2255
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,160
They bring in the former spook, and nothing

2256
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:16,580
happens.

2257
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:17,400
Nothing happens.

2258
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,080
Nothing changes.

2259
01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:21,860
Final bit on this nonsense, actually going back

2260
01:15:21,860 --> 01:15:23,180
to the fire, is Hollywood.

2261
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,360
Because, of course, Hollywood has been severely affected.

2262
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,940
We've had many stars' homes burn, including some

2263
01:15:31,940 --> 01:15:33,400
iconic film sets.

2264
01:15:33,580 --> 01:15:36,060
Thousands of families have lost their homes this

2265
01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:36,340
week.

2266
01:15:36,620 --> 01:15:39,180
Also gone in the devastating wildfires are pieces

2267
01:15:39,180 --> 01:15:41,880
of Hollywood history, with a number of historic

2268
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,240
houses and sets used in iconic TV and

2269
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:45,520
film.

2270
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,400
Will Rogers Ranch House, a property dating back

2271
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,140
to the 1920s, was completely destroyed in the

2272
01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:51,900
Palisades fire.

2273
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,580
Built on 186 acres overlooking the Pacific Ocean,

2274
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,340
it has 31 rooms, corrals, a stable, riding

2275
01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:02,500
ring, pole field, golf course, and hiking trails.

2276
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,040
It was where the famed actor lived and

2277
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,640
rode horses before his death in 1935.

2278
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,300
And then there's the infamous Bunny Museum.

2279
01:16:10,300 --> 01:16:13,300
His widow, Betty Rogers, gave the property to

2280
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:15,820
the state in 1944, and it became a

2281
01:16:15,820 --> 01:16:17,180
historic state park.

2282
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,240
The Bunny Museum, located in Altadena and dedicated

2283
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,500
to all things bunnies, was also destroyed.

2284
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:23,500
Okay, great.

2285
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:25,720
Um, for a more serious...

2286
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:27,360
I've never heard of the bunny...

2287
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:28,500
All things bunnies?

2288
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,360
All things bunnies.

2289
01:16:29,540 --> 01:16:31,640
That's right, the Bunny Museum was destroyed.

2290
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:34,480
For a more serious take on the impact

2291
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,160
on Hollywood, we go to Reuters.

2292
01:16:36,420 --> 01:16:38,840
What's been the impact to the entertainment industry?

2293
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,560
Well, the immediate impact is some productions are

2294
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:42,080
shut down.

2295
01:16:42,540 --> 01:16:44,900
The Oscar nominations have been delayed by two

2296
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:45,440
days.

2297
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,940
We've just kicked off awards season with the

2298
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:48,600
Golden Globes.

2299
01:16:48,700 --> 01:16:51,520
Everybody was feeling optimistic about a new year,

2300
01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:54,300
and now other red carpet events are being

2301
01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:54,660
postponed.

2302
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,740
So that's kind of put a cast over

2303
01:16:57,740 --> 01:16:59,880
the whole thing that is, you know, not

2304
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,960
as joyful in the celebratory season.

2305
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,860
But beyond that, Hollywood has been through a

2306
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:05,120
lot.

2307
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,640
First, it was the pandemic, where there was

2308
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:08,200
no production.

2309
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,200
Then we had two strikes last year, where

2310
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,340
a lot of people were out of work.

2311
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,960
And the industry has still been recovering from

2312
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,060
that, especially the crew members, the working class

2313
01:17:17,060 --> 01:17:19,160
people who work on TV and movie sets.

2314
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,480
A lot of them have been out of

2315
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:21,380
work for a long time.

2316
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,140
And this is just another disruption.

2317
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,620
Hopefully, this is a shorter, temporary one.

2318
01:17:25,940 --> 01:17:27,180
But, you know, it also makes you wonder

2319
01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:29,120
about the long-term impact.

2320
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,600
There's been production leaving LA anyway, because it's

2321
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,880
expensive to film here.

2322
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,540
And, you know, I know there are people

2323
01:17:35,540 --> 01:17:37,660
asking questions like, oh, gosh, is this another

2324
01:17:37,660 --> 01:17:40,440
negative for LA as far as when people

2325
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:41,340
are deciding where to shoot?

2326
01:17:41,380 --> 01:17:43,400
Are they going to once again decide we

2327
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,360
want to go somewhere else?

2328
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:46,020
And a lot of people in the entertainment

2329
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:47,060
industry live here.

2330
01:17:47,180 --> 01:17:47,820
They love it here.

2331
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,300
And they prefer to work here if they

2332
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:49,540
can.

2333
01:17:49,820 --> 01:17:51,180
Oh, goodness gracious.

2334
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:53,460
And everyone was so excited.

2335
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,920
We had the Golden Globes, the 82nd.

2336
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,940
Everyone was upbeat.

2337
01:17:58,140 --> 01:17:59,780
It was going to be another great year.

2338
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,000
We're kicking off award show season.

2339
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,720
And since this is my beat, Nikki Glaser

2340
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,480
had this to say during the award.

2341
01:18:07,940 --> 01:18:09,640
So much has already happened in the first

2342
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:09,960
half.

2343
01:18:10,060 --> 01:18:12,660
And the acceptance speeches have been on fire.

2344
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,240
Who got shouted out the most?

2345
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:15,580
Let's look at the numbers.

2346
01:18:16,420 --> 01:18:17,020
All right.

2347
01:18:17,220 --> 01:18:19,660
Cast and crew are leading the way with

2348
01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:20,420
11 mentions.

2349
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,620
Moms are holding strong with three shout outs.

2350
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,980
God, creator of the universe, zero mentions.

2351
01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:33,920
And Mario Lopez, host of Access Hollywood, won.

2352
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:35,820
All right.

2353
01:18:37,540 --> 01:18:39,760
No surprise in this godless town.

2354
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:40,460
Yeah.

2355
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,060
A lot of people sent me that clip,

2356
01:18:42,180 --> 01:18:42,320
John.

2357
01:18:43,580 --> 01:18:44,920
Well, I saw that clip.

2358
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,460
I was going to clip it.

2359
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:47,460
No surprise.

2360
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,640
No surprise in this godless town.

2361
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:51,520
By the way, the funny joke in there,

2362
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,160
because this is scripted, she's the one who

2363
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:55,920
mentioned Mario Lopez.

2364
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,380
Mario Lopez, that was the punchline.

2365
01:18:58,380 --> 01:19:00,720
But you heard everybody laugh.

2366
01:19:00,740 --> 01:19:02,420
Oh, yes, God got zero.

2367
01:19:02,740 --> 01:19:03,500
Don't mock God.

2368
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,820
Yeah, I noticed that, too.

2369
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:08,180
And then I thought back on it when

2370
01:19:08,180 --> 01:19:09,600
these fires broke out.

2371
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,700
Why not?

2372
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,360
Don't worship idols of gold.

2373
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,760
Just some things to think of, Hollywood.

2374
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,140
Anyway, I think we've covered the fires and

2375
01:19:20,140 --> 01:19:23,540
climate change sufficiently here.

2376
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,380
The question is, will the fire still be

2377
01:19:25,380 --> 01:19:26,460
going by Thursday?

2378
01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:28,740
Oh, what do they have contained?

2379
01:19:28,820 --> 01:19:30,240
11% now or something?

2380
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:30,760
No, no.

2381
01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:32,860
The last report, it was close to 20,

2382
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,860
or in and around 20.

2383
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:37,740
Yeah, I don't know.

2384
01:19:38,420 --> 01:19:39,400
And then if the wind dies.

2385
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:41,060
They can put a stop to it pretty

2386
01:19:41,060 --> 01:19:42,360
quickly once the wind stops.

2387
01:19:44,260 --> 01:19:45,500
But it's a mess.

2388
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:46,920
It is a mess.

2389
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:47,880
A deserved mess.

2390
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:49,000
It is a mess.

2391
01:19:50,020 --> 01:19:53,520
So I have some clips on TikTok and

2392
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,280
what's happening.

2393
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:56,440
Yeah.

2394
01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:57,160
Talk.

2395
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:58,080
TikTok.

2396
01:19:58,680 --> 01:19:59,100
TikTok clips.

2397
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,660
I don't see any TikTok clips.

2398
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:02,680
What?

2399
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:03,960
Oh, it's not TikTok clips.

2400
01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:04,740
It's about.

2401
01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:05,940
Oh, about TikTok.

2402
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:06,980
Yes, about.

2403
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:07,680
You don't have to.

2404
01:20:07,820 --> 01:20:10,240
There's a big difference between TikTok clips and

2405
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:10,820
about TikTok.

2406
01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:11,120
Yeah.

2407
01:20:11,380 --> 01:20:12,580
And by the way, I want to mention

2408
01:20:12,580 --> 01:20:14,500
anybody out there who's trying to follow this.

2409
01:20:15,020 --> 01:20:19,600
I will say that John Oliver, about a

2410
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,540
month when this thing first started breaking.

2411
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:22,320
Okay.

2412
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,580
John Oliver on Last Week in Tech is

2413
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:27,080
about a month.

2414
01:20:27,180 --> 01:20:27,820
This is a month old.

2415
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:28,200
Wait a minute.

2416
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:30,640
He doesn't have a show called Last Week

2417
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:30,740
in Tech.

2418
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:31,800
I mean, Last Week in the New.

2419
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:33,660
Whatever it is, this week, last week, whatever

2420
01:20:33,660 --> 01:20:34,140
it's called.

2421
01:20:34,300 --> 01:20:34,400
Last Week in Tech.

2422
01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:34,680
Okay.

2423
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:36,140
Last Week in Tech.

2424
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,140
He did a breakdown of this that was

2425
01:20:40,140 --> 01:20:41,640
absolutely stunning.

2426
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,800
It was very good, and it's available on

2427
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:44,100
YouTube.

2428
01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:44,940
You can just look up.

2429
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:45,740
Oh, I should look at that.

2430
01:20:45,780 --> 01:20:46,460
TikTok ban.

2431
01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:47,720
Okay, I should look at that.

2432
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:48,880
You don't have to go find it.

2433
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,040
Get it free.

2434
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,060
Screw those pay stuff.

2435
01:20:52,460 --> 01:20:53,920
So let's go with the TikTok law.

2436
01:20:54,060 --> 01:20:55,700
This is about the new law coming up,

2437
01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:58,520
and whether or not it's going to have

2438
01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:59,280
an impact.

2439
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,040
And I put going right into the middle

2440
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,340
of the discussion, not so much about the

2441
01:21:04,340 --> 01:21:07,800
background, and we go with the law explained

2442
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,300
right off the bat, clip one.

2443
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,580
Bobby, let me start with you.

2444
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,080
What does this law actually do on the

2445
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,620
19th?

2446
01:21:13,780 --> 01:21:16,140
The TikTok lawyer today kept saying that TikTok

2447
01:21:16,140 --> 01:21:17,080
would go dark.

2448
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,200
Is that an overstatement?

2449
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:18,760
Yeah.

2450
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,460
On January 19th, Apple and Google will be

2451
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:24,240
legally forced to remove TikTok from app stores,

2452
01:21:24,700 --> 01:21:26,640
and that means new users can't download it,

2453
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,780
and ByteDance in China will not be able

2454
01:21:28,780 --> 01:21:30,370
to send the app software updates.

2455
01:21:31,140 --> 01:21:33,520
Also, web hosting services that provide back-end

2456
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,640
support for TikTok will have to sever ties.

2457
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,760
That means it's not going to have any

2458
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:38,580
cloud support.

2459
01:21:38,660 --> 01:21:40,340
That's going to be a huge problem for

2460
01:21:40,340 --> 01:21:43,140
all of the people taking videos, commenting, trying

2461
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:45,660
to use TikTok, because basically it will cripple

2462
01:21:45,660 --> 01:21:46,680
TikTok's infrastructure.

2463
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,800
And Marcia, in the arguments today, what were

2464
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,140
the justices focusing on?

2465
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:53,100
John, they were really focused on the two

2466
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,460
reasons that Congress and the administration have given

2467
01:21:56,460 --> 01:22:00,720
to justify the law, as Bobby just stated

2468
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:01,020
it.

2469
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:03,960
That had to do with the fact that

2470
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,820
the Chinese government, through its very close alignment

2471
01:22:06,820 --> 01:22:10,180
with ByteDance, the China-based owner of TikTok,

2472
01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:15,600
may engage in covert content manipulation, as well

2473
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,400
as its collection of the data of private

2474
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:24,600
citizens, Americans, about 177 million Americans and their

2475
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,280
contacts, and use both of those to undermine

2476
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:29,600
national security.

2477
01:22:29,980 --> 01:22:32,340
There was also a First Amendment argument, wasn't

2478
01:22:32,340 --> 01:22:32,520
there?

2479
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,620
Well, actually, the guts of this case is

2480
01:22:35,620 --> 01:22:38,720
whether the law itself violates the First Amendment

2481
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,440
speech rights of TikTok USA and the users

2482
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:44,200
of TikTok.

2483
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,100
They're called creators, those who put content up

2484
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:49,200
on TikTok.

2485
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:50,720
They're called creators.

2486
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,220
Content, wait a minute, covert content manipulation.

2487
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,440
Nice term.

2488
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:58,480
Very nice.

2489
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,040
Yeah, there's no evidence of it, but it's

2490
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:01,840
a great term.

2491
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:02,820
Well, you can't see it.

2492
01:23:02,860 --> 01:23:04,580
It's the algo that is feeding our children

2493
01:23:04,580 --> 01:23:05,420
dumb crap.

2494
01:23:05,420 --> 01:23:08,600
It's hurting our children, and somehow they're stealing

2495
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,480
more of your information than any other app.

2496
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:13,560
Than all the rest of the people stealing

2497
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:14,140
information?

2498
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,080
Than any other app or phone or service.

2499
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:19,640
They're all stealing information, but somehow this is

2500
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,060
worse.

2501
01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:22,120
Yeah, well, we should probably reiterate before we

2502
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,920
continue that our take here is that this

2503
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,340
is just a, and the bill, the original

2504
01:23:28,340 --> 01:23:32,620
bill was sponsored by representatives who had huge

2505
01:23:32,620 --> 01:23:34,140
investments, mainly from Google.

2506
01:23:35,020 --> 01:23:37,420
This is about removing a competitor.

2507
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,520
It's just, there is no evidence, I like

2508
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,020
saying that, of them- You too, you're

2509
01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:44,680
worse than me.

2510
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,600
Of stealing more data than anybody else.

2511
01:23:48,340 --> 01:23:51,580
And now, is there evidence of them giving

2512
01:23:51,580 --> 01:23:54,780
us, our children, although it's mainly adults in

2513
01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:58,440
my opinion, giving our children horrible things to

2514
01:23:58,440 --> 01:23:58,880
look at?

2515
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,200
More so than reels?

2516
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,240
More so than YouTube shorts?

2517
01:24:03,380 --> 01:24:05,440
I don't think there is evidence of that.

2518
01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:06,920
It looks the same to me.

2519
01:24:07,060 --> 01:24:08,700
And, of course, they give the Chinese kids

2520
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:10,340
smart videos to look at.

2521
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:11,360
Ooh, so smart.

2522
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,380
There was a thing brought up in the,

2523
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,380
John Oliver thing that wasn't brought up in

2524
01:24:18,380 --> 01:24:19,980
these clips, and I'll just mention it.

2525
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,060
They had, he played a clip from some,

2526
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,540
it was a podcast or some interview show

2527
01:24:25,540 --> 01:24:27,840
where they had three guys, three senators that

2528
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,680
were on the intelligence committee, and they all

2529
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,980
claimed, which Oliver ridiculed to no end, they

2530
01:24:35,980 --> 01:24:38,500
all claimed, well, you know, we have seen

2531
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:41,820
things, we have our intelligence, we've been briefed,

2532
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:42,900
we've been read in.

2533
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,340
There's something else, there's a piece of missing

2534
01:24:45,340 --> 01:24:47,920
information that we're not getting, which could be

2535
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,340
total bull crap, that supposedly the intel community

2536
01:24:52,340 --> 01:24:55,020
has found out something or they had a

2537
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:56,540
secret memo or they got a mole that

2538
01:24:56,540 --> 01:24:58,680
they can't name, so they redacted a lot

2539
01:24:58,680 --> 01:24:58,900
of stuff.

2540
01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:59,780
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

2541
01:24:59,900 --> 01:25:01,400
You know, I know what it is.

2542
01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:04,180
Hey, hey, what's that in your mouth?

2543
01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:07,920
Yeah, well, it's probably one of those elements,

2544
01:25:08,020 --> 01:25:09,060
but let's go with clip two.

2545
01:25:09,340 --> 01:25:12,440
Today, during the arguments, it was very interesting

2546
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,900
because there was a lot of skepticism about

2547
01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:20,360
the first justification, the Chinese government engaging in

2548
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,820
manipulation, covert manipulation of content, and whether there

2549
01:25:24,820 --> 01:25:29,820
actually was a speech interest here to look

2550
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:33,180
at, as some of the justices said, and

2551
01:25:33,180 --> 01:25:35,540
I'll point in particular to Chief Justice Roberts.

2552
01:25:35,980 --> 01:25:38,860
He said Congress didn't care about the expression

2553
01:25:38,860 --> 01:25:42,220
on TikTok, meaning the speech or the ideas

2554
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:42,940
on TikTok.

2555
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,440
Congress didn't want to stop TikTok, he said.

2556
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,260
What Congress wanted to do was to stop

2557
01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:51,460
China's control of TikTok.

2558
01:25:51,460 --> 01:25:54,440
So he was very skeptical that there was

2559
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:55,420
a speech right here.

2560
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,060
Also, there were justices who did recognize there

2561
01:25:59,060 --> 01:26:02,760
were speech rights belonging to TikTok USA and

2562
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,420
the users of TikTok, but they questioned, for

2563
01:26:05,420 --> 01:26:10,640
example, Justice Elena Kagan questioned whether those speech

2564
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,320
impediments or restrictions were really substantial because the

2565
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,780
law itself, she said, really was targeted at

2566
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:22,120
ByteDance and its divestiture.

2567
01:26:22,660 --> 01:26:24,980
Were the justices more skeptical of one side

2568
01:26:24,980 --> 01:26:25,400
or the other?

2569
01:26:25,480 --> 01:26:27,460
Did they tip their hand at all about

2570
01:26:27,460 --> 01:26:28,220
what they might do?

2571
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,780
Well, I think they were very tough on

2572
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:34,340
both sides, but I think what resounded most

2573
01:26:34,340 --> 01:26:37,760
with the justices was that second interest that

2574
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,960
the government offered for the law, the collection

2575
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,580
of the private information of American citizens.

2576
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:48,740
Justice Brett Kavanaugh, for example, he said that's

2577
01:26:48,740 --> 01:26:51,560
a huge concern now and in the future.

2578
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:52,920
How about this?

2579
01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:56,980
How about the Intel guys took these representatives

2580
01:26:56,980 --> 01:26:58,760
aside and said, look at all this information

2581
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,420
they have on you.

2582
01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:00,680
Look at all this data.

2583
01:27:00,860 --> 01:27:01,820
Look at what they did.

2584
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:02,640
Did you know?

2585
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,940
You know, like one of those emails you

2586
01:27:04,940 --> 01:27:08,080
get, you know, saying you need to send

2587
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,940
me a Bitcoin because I have video of

2588
01:27:10,940 --> 01:27:11,760
you jerking off.

2589
01:27:13,460 --> 01:27:14,440
You know that scam?

2590
01:27:15,380 --> 01:27:16,140
No, I don't know that.

2591
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,180
I haven't gotten that scam.

2592
01:27:17,500 --> 01:27:19,220
Oh, this is a well-known scam.

2593
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:20,860
In fact, it's it's upped.

2594
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,620
It's they've upped it a little bit.

2595
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,200
So everyone gets the same email.

2596
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:28,040
It's important to pay attention to this message

2597
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:28,380
right now.

2598
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:30,180
Take a minute to relax, breathe and really

2599
01:27:30,180 --> 01:27:31,800
dig into it, because we're about to discuss

2600
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,300
a deal between you and me and I

2601
01:27:33,300 --> 01:27:34,320
ain't playing games.

2602
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,200
You do not know anything about me.

2603
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:37,280
And it goes on and on and on.

2604
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,860
I placed a malware on a porn website

2605
01:27:40,860 --> 01:27:43,380
and you visited it to watch.

2606
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:44,520
You know what I mean?

2607
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,680
While you were busy watching those videos, your

2608
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,140
device started functioning as a remote protocol device,

2609
01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:52,820
which provided me complete access to your smartphone.

2610
01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:55,160
I can peep at everything on your screen,

2611
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:56,660
flick on the cam and the mic.

2612
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:57,940
You wouldn't have a clue.

2613
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,400
Oh, and I have access to all your

2614
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,200
emails, contacts and social media accounts as well.

2615
01:28:02,740 --> 01:28:05,080
So in essence, they say, can you imagine

2616
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,520
this note coming to me?

2617
01:28:08,540 --> 01:28:09,320
There's a reason.

2618
01:28:09,660 --> 01:28:11,040
But I'd have to go check the phone

2619
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,560
in the drawer and see what the hell

2620
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,300
is going on.

2621
01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:14,920
But they've upped their game now.

2622
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,960
And it's quite it's quite good now because

2623
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,000
everyone's Tina received this email.

2624
01:28:21,180 --> 01:28:21,600
I got one.

2625
01:28:21,700 --> 01:28:23,220
I've got this a couple of times.

2626
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,800
But and everyone I know who has a

2627
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,320
phone has received one.

2628
01:28:29,340 --> 01:28:33,760
But now they're they are sending the same

2629
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,180
email.

2630
01:28:34,180 --> 01:28:36,580
And it says, I know that calling and

2631
01:28:36,580 --> 01:28:38,540
then it has your phone number or visiting.

2632
01:28:38,660 --> 01:28:40,280
It has your address would be a better

2633
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,120
way to contact you in case you don't

2634
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:42,480
act.

2635
01:28:43,020 --> 01:28:44,840
So now someone has got a database.

2636
01:28:44,980 --> 01:28:45,540
That's good.

2637
01:28:45,700 --> 01:28:46,380
It's good.

2638
01:28:47,300 --> 01:28:47,760
It's good.

2639
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,200
They probably bought that that that database.

2640
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,420
You can buy the database.

2641
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,880
You can also actually this relates to a

2642
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,160
tip of the day, by the way, coming

2643
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,780
up later in the show.

2644
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,260
What you just said.

2645
01:28:58,420 --> 01:29:01,560
But they can also do nowadays.

2646
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,240
They can get your social security number and

2647
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:03,940
throw that in there.

2648
01:29:04,060 --> 01:29:05,120
Oh, that'll be next.

2649
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:05,420
So.

2650
01:29:05,820 --> 01:29:07,860
So my point is, there's a lot of

2651
01:29:07,860 --> 01:29:09,800
information and you just take one of these

2652
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,400
people aside and say, look at what I've

2653
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,020
got on you.

2654
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,400
And, you know, please don't pay attention to

2655
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,160
what Google, Facebook, everybody else has on.

2656
01:29:17,220 --> 01:29:18,440
You know, these guys have it.

2657
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:19,880
That's what you do.

2658
01:29:19,980 --> 01:29:21,060
That's how you do it.

2659
01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:24,200
And, of course, the biggest problem with Tick

2660
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,440
-Tock probably is they don't allow as much

2661
01:29:26,440 --> 01:29:29,820
access to our Intel or Intel community as

2662
01:29:29,820 --> 01:29:30,660
these other guys do.

2663
01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:32,340
And now that I think about it, I

2664
01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:36,400
think it is not coincidental that Zuckerberg all

2665
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,720
of a sudden is changing the policies because

2666
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,220
he knows that this is going to happen.

2667
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:41,860
Tick-Tock is going to go down.

2668
01:29:42,020 --> 01:29:43,180
Come to reels.

2669
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,780
We let you do free speech stuff.

2670
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,780
Yeah, you're probably right.

2671
01:29:50,940 --> 01:29:51,280
Yeah.

2672
01:29:51,540 --> 01:29:51,740
Yeah.

2673
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:53,960
So I got one short clip in the

2674
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:54,540
final one.

2675
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,080
And the short clip is the wow clip.

2676
01:29:56,140 --> 01:29:57,060
And it's got pieces.

2677
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:58,640
I thought this was a good one.

2678
01:29:58,660 --> 01:29:59,340
This clip three.

2679
01:29:59,340 --> 01:30:02,420
As the government pointed out, that data, private

2680
01:30:02,420 --> 01:30:05,200
data could be used by China in the

2681
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,880
future to blackmail future CIA officers.

2682
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,320
It could be used to try to turn

2683
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,080
certain America's Americans into spies.

2684
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,000
And so I think when you look overall

2685
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:18,880
at the argument.

2686
01:30:19,060 --> 01:30:19,380
Wait a minute.

2687
01:30:19,420 --> 01:30:21,320
Does she say turn Americans into spies?

2688
01:30:22,140 --> 01:30:22,340
Yeah.

2689
01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:24,260
Earn certain America's.

2690
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,820
Yeah, Tick-Tock could turn Americans into spies.

2691
01:30:26,820 --> 01:30:29,040
It could be used to try to turn

2692
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,840
certain America's Americans into spies.

2693
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,680
And so I think when you looked overall

2694
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,500
at the arguments, that was something that may

2695
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:43,380
persuade a majority to very much uphold this

2696
01:30:43,380 --> 01:30:43,680
law.

2697
01:30:43,780 --> 01:30:44,160
So.

2698
01:30:44,420 --> 01:30:46,160
So let me just understand the scenario.

2699
01:30:46,820 --> 01:30:47,180
Wow.

2700
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,280
This is a cool dance.

2701
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:49,160
These kids are doing.

2702
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:51,560
I think I'll become a spy for China.

2703
01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:53,460
Yep.

2704
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,720
Well, actually, I'm going to skip.

2705
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:59,380
No, we'll play clip four.

2706
01:30:59,740 --> 01:31:00,900
But before we do that, I want to

2707
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:02,660
back off, back up and go to an

2708
01:31:02,660 --> 01:31:06,060
NPR clip called the Tick-Tock blackmail.

2709
01:31:06,460 --> 01:31:07,140
This is the.

2710
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:08,860
Now, what kind of blackmail?

2711
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,300
You just kind of got maybe an angle

2712
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:12,100
on the blackmail.

2713
01:31:12,420 --> 01:31:16,020
But listen to NPR's interpretation of how you

2714
01:31:16,020 --> 01:31:16,140
can.

2715
01:31:16,820 --> 01:31:18,880
There's lots of ways of getting blackmail using

2716
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:19,460
Tick-Tock.

2717
01:31:19,460 --> 01:31:21,520
This is what they think it is.

2718
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:21,980
Yeah.

2719
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,180
In court, Prelogger said.

2720
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,080
I mean, think about it.

2721
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:26,220
Beijing has all of this information on millions

2722
01:31:26,220 --> 01:31:27,180
of teenagers now.

2723
01:31:27,500 --> 01:31:28,740
But, you know, maybe they don't want to

2724
01:31:28,740 --> 01:31:29,740
do anything with it now.

2725
01:31:29,740 --> 01:31:31,640
But weaponize it later when some of these

2726
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,460
teens say, you know, take jobs with the

2727
01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:35,080
government or maybe join the military.

2728
01:31:37,780 --> 01:31:40,480
So they're going to basically do what parents

2729
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:41,680
do to their kids.

2730
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,660
You take a video of the little kid

2731
01:31:44,660 --> 01:31:47,080
when he's three crying or making a fuss.

2732
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:48,660
Then you show it at his high school

2733
01:31:48,660 --> 01:31:49,240
reunion.

2734
01:31:50,300 --> 01:31:52,480
I mean, this is basically the theory is

2735
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:54,860
that, yeah, you got some dipshit girl doing

2736
01:31:54,860 --> 01:31:58,240
that stupid dance, you know, when she's 14

2737
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,720
or 13 or 12.

2738
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:03,060
And let's save that for the next 20

2739
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:03,560
years.

2740
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:04,900
Let's save it in the vault.

2741
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,580
And then we'll look her up.

2742
01:32:06,580 --> 01:32:07,900
And then when she starts to work for

2743
01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:10,240
the Health and Human Services, we'll bring it

2744
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,160
up and blackmail her with it.

2745
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,000
What are you nuts?

2746
01:32:14,420 --> 01:32:14,840
Wow.

2747
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,780
These NPR people must be doing some really

2748
01:32:17,780 --> 01:32:19,280
dirty stuff with their phones.

2749
01:32:20,140 --> 01:32:22,720
Or they're doing some real heavy duty coke.

2750
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,020
So let's go with this Tick-Tock for

2751
01:32:26,020 --> 01:32:26,920
the final clip.

2752
01:32:27,420 --> 01:32:29,320
And Bobby, if that happens, if this law

2753
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,420
is upheld, is there any indication what Tick

2754
01:32:32,420 --> 01:32:34,520
-Tock and its owners would do as the

2755
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,300
19th approaches?

2756
01:32:35,300 --> 01:32:37,560
That's really the million-dollar question.

2757
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:38,540
We don't know.

2758
01:32:38,740 --> 01:32:39,840
Tick-Tock and its parent company.

2759
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,020
Since when did it become the million-dollar

2760
01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:42,480
question?

2761
01:32:42,940 --> 01:32:46,100
Sorry to be kind of nitpicky about this,

2762
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:49,080
but it was the $64,000 question.

2763
01:32:49,580 --> 01:32:51,480
Is there or has there ever been a

2764
01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:52,520
million-dollar question?

2765
01:32:52,940 --> 01:32:54,140
Yeah, actually, yes.

2766
01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:55,680
Oh, there is?

2767
01:32:55,820 --> 01:32:56,560
There's been more than a few.

2768
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:57,800
Like, do you want to be a millionaire

2769
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:58,440
is one of them.

2770
01:32:58,440 --> 01:32:58,620
Oh.

2771
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:03,280
And the original $64,000 question was upgraded

2772
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,920
some years later on a show that I

2773
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:05,900
think failed over time.

2774
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,660
And I think the final amount was a

2775
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:09,900
million.

2776
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:10,380
Okay.

2777
01:33:10,580 --> 01:33:11,400
I stand corrected.

2778
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,660
And Bobby, if that happens, if this law

2779
01:33:13,660 --> 01:33:16,780
is upheld, is there any indication what Tick

2780
01:33:16,780 --> 01:33:18,880
-Tock and its owners would do as the

2781
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:19,640
19th approaches?

2782
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,900
That's really the million-dollar question.

2783
01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:22,900
And we don't know.

2784
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,740
Tick-Tock and its parent company, ByteDance, are

2785
01:33:24,740 --> 01:33:29,260
in this really precarious amount of uncertainty right

2786
01:33:29,260 --> 01:33:29,520
now.

2787
01:33:29,660 --> 01:33:32,500
If the law is upheld, President-elect Donald

2788
01:33:32,500 --> 01:33:34,160
Trump will not yet be in office.

2789
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,280
And between January 19th, the start date, and

2790
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,200
when Trump is sworn in the 20th, there's

2791
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,880
going to be 24 hours of limbo.

2792
01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:43,600
Limbo!

2793
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,640
And I have sources inside of Google and

2794
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,000
inside of Apple who say, look, we've heard

2795
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,320
from our general counsels that we're not about

2796
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,280
to be out of compliance with a federal

2797
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:55,220
law on the books.

2798
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:58,200
So they are planning, the two big tech

2799
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,980
companies, to remove Tick-Tock on the 19th.

2800
01:34:00,980 --> 01:34:02,940
And I think a big question is, even

2801
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:05,520
if the law is upheld, will Trump then,

2802
01:34:05,860 --> 01:34:08,280
can he rather, extend the deadline?

2803
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,360
How do you—this came up in the court

2804
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:10,900
today, right?

2805
01:34:10,900 --> 01:34:13,120
How do you extend the deadline on a

2806
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,620
ban that has already started?

2807
01:34:14,900 --> 01:34:18,600
So lots of unknowns, but it could get

2808
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,380
really serious really fast for Tick-Tock.

2809
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:22,240
And actually, at the end of last year,

2810
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,580
the president-elect filed a brief in the

2811
01:34:24,580 --> 01:34:27,480
court asking them to delay this so that

2812
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:29,320
he could have time to try to negotiate

2813
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,540
a deal, as he put it.

2814
01:34:31,340 --> 01:34:33,380
And is there a chance that he just

2815
01:34:33,380 --> 01:34:35,360
might—if the law is upheld, he just might

2816
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,180
not enforce it?

2817
01:34:36,440 --> 01:34:37,300
That's a possibility.

2818
01:34:37,300 --> 01:34:40,740
Trump, remember, was the person who started the

2819
01:34:40,740 --> 01:34:42,920
Tick-Tock ban movement during his first term.

2820
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,500
But now coming into office, he wants to

2821
01:34:44,500 --> 01:34:45,540
be Tick-Tock's savior.

2822
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,060
And it is within the realm of possibility

2823
01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:50,760
that he instructs his Justice Department to not

2824
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,120
enforce this law.

2825
01:34:52,220 --> 01:34:53,440
If you look at the language of the

2826
01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:55,320
law Congress passed, it puts a lot of

2827
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,940
leeway in the hands of the president.

2828
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,300
The president will be the one who will

2829
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:03,740
be interpreting and instructing his administration to enforce

2830
01:35:03,740 --> 01:35:04,180
the law.

2831
01:35:04,180 --> 01:35:06,240
So a lot will come down to what

2832
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,380
is Trump going to do once he's in

2833
01:35:08,380 --> 01:35:11,260
office, regardless of what the high court decides.

2834
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:14,900
That's interesting.

2835
01:35:15,580 --> 01:35:16,420
What do you think?

2836
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,040
I really am clueless about what's going to

2837
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:22,280
happen.

2838
01:35:22,420 --> 01:35:24,080
I mean, they could put the ban on

2839
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:24,220
it.

2840
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:27,800
I think they may punt and say, well,

2841
01:35:27,900 --> 01:35:29,120
you know, we're supposed to come up with

2842
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:29,280
this.

2843
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,160
We're going to push it off a couple

2844
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,040
of days, just enough to get Trump in

2845
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,860
and let Trump come in and make a

2846
01:35:35,860 --> 01:35:36,840
fuss one way or the other.

2847
01:35:36,980 --> 01:35:38,960
I don't think they're going to get the

2848
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,160
decision out in time.

2849
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,180
I think they're going to push it.

2850
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:42,260
They've done this before.

2851
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,100
Well, you know, we almost have a decision.

2852
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:47,900
We got to think about another week.

2853
01:35:48,220 --> 01:35:49,260
Do you hear those hoofbeats?

2854
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,260
Do you hear the hoofbeats?

2855
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,300
I hear a knight in shining armor on

2856
01:35:55,300 --> 01:35:56,040
a white horse.

2857
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,020
Oh, yes.

2858
01:35:57,340 --> 01:35:58,420
It's Mr. Wonderful.

2859
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,060
The reports are you're buying TikTok.

2860
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,980
So what's the deal?

2861
01:36:02,140 --> 01:36:03,360
The reports are you're buying TikTok.

2862
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,180
Is that happening?

2863
01:36:04,580 --> 01:36:05,640
Are you getting close?

2864
01:36:05,780 --> 01:36:07,100
What's the status here of you and TikTok?

2865
01:36:07,780 --> 01:36:09,720
Well, if it's going to be sold, I'm

2866
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:10,380
going to be buying it.

2867
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,920
And I'll tell you what we're waiting for.

2868
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,580
Four o'clock on Friday, this Friday, Supreme

2869
01:36:14,580 --> 01:36:16,880
Court hearing is going to occur.

2870
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,180
I've teamed up with Frank McCourt.

2871
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,900
The two of us were bidding against each

2872
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:22,840
other for a long time.

2873
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,140
But it made sense to get together for

2874
01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:25,980
a whole host of reasons.

2875
01:36:26,260 --> 01:36:28,040
And we put an announcement out on Monday

2876
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,260
for one specific reason.

2877
01:36:29,860 --> 01:36:32,020
The company has appealed to the Supreme Court.

2878
01:36:32,140 --> 01:36:33,540
They've lost every case right up to the

2879
01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:34,020
Supreme Court.

2880
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:34,740
So here we are.

2881
01:36:35,260 --> 01:36:37,260
What they're telling the Supreme Court is, hey,

2882
01:36:37,340 --> 01:36:39,980
look, we know we're spyware, but we operate

2883
01:36:39,980 --> 01:36:41,600
in a society of free speech.

2884
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:42,900
So even for spying on you.

2885
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,160
I don't think they've said that.

2886
01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:45,620
Screw you.

2887
01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:48,860
And no one's going to buy us because

2888
01:36:48,860 --> 01:36:51,280
we're not going to sell the algorithm.

2889
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,560
So we decided to let the justices know

2890
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,280
by putting out a press release saying we

2891
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,400
have a letter of intent.

2892
01:36:56,540 --> 01:36:57,340
We've got a syndicate.

2893
01:36:57,480 --> 01:36:58,740
We have the 20 billion dollars we think

2894
01:36:58,740 --> 01:36:59,160
we need.

2895
01:36:59,620 --> 01:37:01,020
And we don't want the algorithm.

2896
01:37:01,620 --> 01:37:02,360
It's spyware.

2897
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:03,300
It's Chinese spyware.

2898
01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:05,260
You keep the algorithm, keep spying on everybody

2899
01:37:05,260 --> 01:37:06,180
else and your own people.

2900
01:37:06,180 --> 01:37:06,820
That's fine.

2901
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:08,040
But we don't want that.

2902
01:37:08,060 --> 01:37:09,300
And that's why you're getting shut down in

2903
01:37:09,300 --> 01:37:09,880
the first place.

2904
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,680
So we're going to rewrite it, Americanize it

2905
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,580
and make TikTok wonderful again.

2906
01:37:17,220 --> 01:37:20,200
That guy is such a phony jamoke.

2907
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:21,720
O'Leary?

2908
01:37:21,940 --> 01:37:22,460
O'Leary.

2909
01:37:23,180 --> 01:37:24,360
I mean, I heard him the other day.

2910
01:37:24,420 --> 01:37:27,560
He's buying 20 billion dollars worth of land

2911
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,960
that has coal in it so he can

2912
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:31,700
build data centers for AI.

2913
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:33,200
The guy is a fantastic.

2914
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,020
He just makes stuff up on the spot.

2915
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,060
He's really good television.

2916
01:37:39,180 --> 01:37:40,200
He's great television.

2917
01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:42,300
I have thoughts about this.

2918
01:37:43,300 --> 01:37:46,460
And I was surprised at my own thinking.

2919
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:52,540
I should have thought.

2920
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:53,080
Wow.

2921
01:37:53,380 --> 01:37:53,840
I was stunned.

2922
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:55,560
I guess he is.

2923
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,840
What the United States is good at, what

2924
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,760
we have always been good at, is media.

2925
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:05,460
We're great at television.

2926
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,180
We're great at movies.

2927
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,560
We're great at music.

2928
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,480
We dominate the world.

2929
01:38:11,860 --> 01:38:12,000
Podcasting.

2930
01:38:12,460 --> 01:38:15,560
Well, I have separate thoughts about podcasting.

2931
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,860
But just mainstream dribble and drab.

2932
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,800
We are fantastic at it.

2933
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:23,760
We don't need less.

2934
01:38:24,260 --> 01:38:25,160
We need more.

2935
01:38:25,580 --> 01:38:26,800
We need much more.

2936
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:33,380
We need a national investment fund to create

2937
01:38:33,380 --> 01:38:36,060
more short-form video companies.

2938
01:38:36,460 --> 01:38:38,720
We need more influencers, not less.

2939
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:39,620
More TikTok.

2940
01:38:40,060 --> 01:38:43,080
We need many more Kardashians and Paris Hiltons.

2941
01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:45,400
We need a lot more Taylor Swift and

2942
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:45,860
Beyonce.

2943
01:38:46,340 --> 01:38:49,260
These people are, in fact, good for our

2944
01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:49,640
GDP.

2945
01:38:50,940 --> 01:38:53,360
I have a whole series of clips on

2946
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:54,520
short-form video.

2947
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,180
They're making global sales out of nothing but

2948
01:38:58,180 --> 01:38:58,820
creativity.

2949
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,760
We export this to the entire world.

2950
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,200
We need to dominate in this.

2951
01:39:05,700 --> 01:39:06,180
We do.

2952
01:39:06,460 --> 01:39:08,400
Yes, more, more, more.

2953
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:09,580
Export it all.

2954
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,080
I need 10 Taylor Swifts.

2955
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:12,640
More of this stuff.

2956
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,540
Now, of course, to offset that, we need

2957
01:39:15,540 --> 01:39:17,160
local podcasts, obviously.

2958
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:18,560
I mean, that's what I'm doing.

2959
01:39:19,180 --> 01:39:21,980
But this is so obvious to me.

2960
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,720
And have them hawk American products.

2961
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,780
Get them in bikinis on our cars.

2962
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,260
Drink in our beer.

2963
01:39:31,860 --> 01:39:34,440
This is what we excel at.

2964
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,500
This is very short-sighted to shut down

2965
01:39:37,500 --> 01:39:37,920
these things.

2966
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:38,700
We need more.

2967
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,140
Who cares about the kids?

2968
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,840
You know, some of these dancers have millions

2969
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:43,500
of followers.

2970
01:39:43,700 --> 01:39:44,380
They're great.

2971
01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:45,460
It's great.

2972
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:46,280
Export dancing.

2973
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:47,520
Exactly why no one knows.

2974
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:48,980
Export the dancers.

2975
01:39:50,020 --> 01:39:51,140
Sell stuff with it.

2976
01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:53,460
America should be.

2977
01:39:53,660 --> 01:39:55,880
The dancing dipshits, that's what I call them.

2978
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:58,820
America should be short-form first.

2979
01:39:59,220 --> 01:40:01,200
Make short-form American again.

2980
01:40:02,180 --> 01:40:04,900
And more bubblegum pop like Taylor Swift.

2981
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:07,380
I saw J-Lo on Saturday Night Live.

2982
01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:08,600
More of that.

2983
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:09,540
More hips.

2984
01:40:09,980 --> 01:40:11,400
This is what we do.

2985
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,660
Okay, speaking of hips, we had the one

2986
01:40:15,660 --> 01:40:17,800
girl from South America.

2987
01:40:18,860 --> 01:40:19,720
What was her name?

2988
01:40:19,820 --> 01:40:20,640
My hips don't lie.

2989
01:40:20,940 --> 01:40:21,440
Shakira.

2990
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:22,160
Shakira.

2991
01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:22,740
One.

2992
01:40:22,900 --> 01:40:23,460
We got one.

2993
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,680
What other superstars do we have?

2994
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:27,460
ABBA, they're almost dead.

2995
01:40:28,140 --> 01:40:30,120
There's nothing else coming from anywhere in the

2996
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:30,280
world.

2997
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:31,220
We are it.

2998
01:40:31,460 --> 01:40:33,800
We need to be exploiting this through the

2999
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,000
Internet with many more short-form video influencers

3000
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,840
and bubblegum crap.

3001
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:41,340
Reverse the flow.

3002
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,740
We're going to have to because if you

3003
01:40:43,740 --> 01:40:45,900
listen to these clips, the short-form clips

3004
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:47,200
that we have time for before the break.

3005
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:47,560
Yeah, yeah, sure.

3006
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:48,440
I'm excited.

3007
01:40:48,780 --> 01:40:50,260
You're all in on me.

3008
01:40:51,660 --> 01:40:52,700
It's China.

3009
01:40:54,460 --> 01:40:54,800
China.

3010
01:40:55,020 --> 01:40:57,380
That's really kicking ass in short-form video.

3011
01:40:58,020 --> 01:40:58,400
I don't see it.

3012
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,300
And by the way, when I play these

3013
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:03,200
clips, I kept thinking about Ron Bloom.

3014
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,920
Bloom should be in charge of this fund.

3015
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,240
Ron Bloom should be running the TikToks, the

3016
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,400
short-form video company fund.

3017
01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:14,160
We need to subsidize this stuff.

3018
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,520
It was like, you know, there was this

3019
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:17,940
at Meteor.

3020
01:41:18,740 --> 01:41:21,080
You come to you founded with Bloom.

3021
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,700
There was this push toward the short-form

3022
01:41:24,700 --> 01:41:26,420
video stuff, which never took off.

3023
01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:27,960
It's his birthday today, by the way.

3024
01:41:28,540 --> 01:41:28,880
Oh, yeah.

3025
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:29,580
Happy birthday.

3026
01:41:29,580 --> 01:41:30,660
He's not listening to the show.

3027
01:41:30,660 --> 01:41:33,640
I guarantee you he's not listening to the

3028
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:33,900
show.

3029
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,940
Well, let's play clip one, and then I

3030
01:41:37,940 --> 01:41:39,380
will talk about some of this stuff.

3031
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,060
These days, most of the video entertainment we

3032
01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:44,760
watch isn't at the movies, on television, or

3033
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:45,620
even on a computer.

3034
01:41:45,940 --> 01:41:47,340
It's on a smartphone.

3035
01:41:47,940 --> 01:41:50,720
To cater to these changing habits, companies, many

3036
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,600
of them Chinese, are turning out bite-sized

3037
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,100
soap operas for phone viewing.

3038
01:41:56,380 --> 01:41:59,000
The company literally was called Bite Size TV.

3039
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,200
That was what Mevio became.

3040
01:42:02,340 --> 01:42:02,800
Amazing.

3041
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,020
He was far ahead of his time.

3042
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,240
I'm beginning to think so.

3043
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,580
And you know who else was ahead of

3044
01:42:10,580 --> 01:42:11,020
their time?

3045
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:12,780
Who was it?

3046
01:42:12,820 --> 01:42:14,360
Remember, was it Geffen?

3047
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,700
What was that stupid company where they were

3048
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:21,360
doing little shorts and series?

3049
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,200
Actually, I have it right here.

3050
01:42:24,940 --> 01:42:26,340
On the tip of your tongue.

3051
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:27,340
On the tip of your tongue.

3052
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:27,960
What was it called?

3053
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,860
With the woman who ran HP into the

3054
01:42:30,860 --> 01:42:31,100
ground.

3055
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:31,800
What was her name?

3056
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:34,260
I know.

3057
01:42:35,220 --> 01:42:36,580
Well, play clip two, and I'll have it.

3058
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:38,320
Here again, Allie Rogan.

3059
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:40,060
You may have seen the ads on TikTok

3060
01:42:40,060 --> 01:42:40,900
or Facebook.

3061
01:42:41,420 --> 01:42:44,640
The plots often involve billionaires, werewolves, or sordid

3062
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:45,020
affairs.

3063
01:42:45,380 --> 01:42:47,300
And the dramas unfold in one to two

3064
01:42:47,300 --> 01:42:48,100
-minute increments.

3065
01:42:48,340 --> 01:42:49,360
In the palm of your hand.

3066
01:42:50,140 --> 01:42:50,840
In the palm of your hand.

3067
01:42:51,340 --> 01:42:52,920
Showing up everywhere I go again, and the

3068
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:53,920
business deals with me.

3069
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,000
With one cliffhanger after another to entice viewers

3070
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:57,740
to continue.

3071
01:42:58,340 --> 01:42:59,800
If I didn't know any better, I'd say

3072
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:00,840
you're still in love with me.

3073
01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:03,700
And in the first quarter of 2024, apps

3074
01:43:03,700 --> 01:43:07,860
like RealShort and DramaBox raked in $146 million

3075
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:11,220
in global revenue outside of China, an 8

3076
01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:13,540
,000% increase over 2023.

3077
01:43:14,260 --> 01:43:15,940
E.J. Dixon is a senior writer at

3078
01:43:15,940 --> 01:43:17,560
New York Magazine covering culture.

3079
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,180
E.J., thank you so much for joining

3080
01:43:19,180 --> 01:43:19,420
us.

3081
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,140
Walk us through what these micro dramas are,

3082
01:43:22,260 --> 01:43:23,360
and what is the appeal?

3083
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,580
So, they're called vertical shorts.

3084
01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:26,800
Vertical shorts!

3085
01:43:27,060 --> 01:43:30,500
And they're essentially feature-length films that are

3086
01:43:30,500 --> 01:43:33,380
broken down into minute-long chunks, like the

3087
01:43:33,380 --> 01:43:35,100
size of your average TikTok video.

3088
01:43:35,380 --> 01:43:38,640
And the idea is that the viewer will

3089
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,680
just scroll through them like they do with

3090
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:41,540
a TikTok feed.

3091
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,140
And watch the whole thing in one sitting.

3092
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,440
They're not intended for consumption like on a

3093
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:50,020
laptop, or on like a traditional big-screen

3094
01:43:50,020 --> 01:43:50,400
TV.

3095
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:54,140
It's almost exclusively for mobile consumption.

3096
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,160
Okay, the good news is the troll room

3097
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,520
gave me the company name, Quibi.

3098
01:43:58,660 --> 01:44:00,520
The bad news, the troll who gave it

3099
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,780
to me has the nickname Rape Dwarf.

3100
01:44:03,900 --> 01:44:07,100
Actually, I sent Brunetti these clips to get

3101
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:07,720
his feedback.

3102
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,120
These are Hollywood clips.

3103
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,400
And he said, remember, it's Jeffrey Katzenberg's Quibi.

3104
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:14,600
You know what?

3105
01:44:14,860 --> 01:44:15,240
No.

3106
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,060
What is $159 million?

3107
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:18,180
That's nothing.

3108
01:44:18,440 --> 01:44:19,120
Drop in the bucket.

3109
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,520
When it gets to the Chinese numbers, that's

3110
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:23,160
what's frightening.

3111
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,900
Anyway, he says Katzenberg's Quibi was supposed to

3112
01:44:25,900 --> 01:44:26,260
do this.

3113
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:27,340
Clearly, it didn't work.

3114
01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:29,740
But the idea will sustain as evidenced by

3115
01:44:29,740 --> 01:44:31,080
the shorts referenced here.

3116
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:31,700
It's inevitable.

3117
01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:34,920
Phones have reduced everyone's attention span.

3118
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,660
Okay, so this does strengthen my argument, right?

3119
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,920
Yeah, actually, there's no contradiction here.

3120
01:44:42,300 --> 01:44:44,020
Tell us about how popular this is in

3121
01:44:44,020 --> 01:44:45,840
China and outside of China.

3122
01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:47,120
We know that in China it's a $4

3123
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:48,540
.4 billion industry.

3124
01:44:48,540 --> 01:44:49,820
$4.4 billion.

3125
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:51,640
But how much has the industry grown since

3126
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:52,300
it took off there?

3127
01:44:52,940 --> 01:44:55,560
They're incredibly popular in China.

3128
01:44:55,940 --> 01:44:58,100
They sort of took off around the pandemic.

3129
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,840
And the industry has grown exponentially since then.

3130
01:45:03,500 --> 01:45:05,180
The biggest market is not in the United

3131
01:45:05,180 --> 01:45:05,740
States.

3132
01:45:06,060 --> 01:45:08,540
It's in countries where people are more likely

3133
01:45:08,540 --> 01:45:11,360
to consume entertainment on their mobile phones, like

3134
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:12,820
India and the Philippines.

3135
01:45:12,860 --> 01:45:14,020
They have big market share there.

3136
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,220
But they're also popular in the United States.

3137
01:45:16,220 --> 01:45:20,080
I spoke to the CEO of one of

3138
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,180
these companies, RealShort, which is kind of like

3139
01:45:22,180 --> 01:45:25,380
the leading app in this space.

3140
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,040
And they're based in Silicon Valley.

3141
01:45:27,220 --> 01:45:29,140
And he said that they're pulling in about

3142
01:45:29,140 --> 01:45:31,420
$10 million in revenue per month, which is

3143
01:45:31,420 --> 01:45:32,000
pretty staggering.

3144
01:45:32,460 --> 01:45:32,560
No.

3145
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,060
I don't mean to overgeneralize here, but the

3146
01:45:35,060 --> 01:45:38,400
content is not exactly— it doesn't feel Oscar

3147
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:38,760
-worthy.

3148
01:45:39,420 --> 01:45:43,140
Is that— You fool.

3149
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:44,460
You fool.

3150
01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:47,340
Is that a trademark of this genre?

3151
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:49,820
And is that something that, if it becomes

3152
01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:51,460
more mainstream, would have to change?

3153
01:45:51,780 --> 01:45:53,640
I would say not Oscar-worthy is a

3154
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,220
good way of putting it.

3155
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,100
It's some of the most abysmal content I've

3156
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:02,180
ever seen in my life, to be perfectly

3157
01:46:02,180 --> 01:46:02,580
frank.

3158
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:06,340
And when you talk to the actors and

3159
01:46:06,340 --> 01:46:08,380
the producers and even, like, the CEO of

3160
01:46:08,380 --> 01:46:11,260
RealShort about this, they see that as an

3161
01:46:11,260 --> 01:46:11,580
asset.

3162
01:46:11,580 --> 01:46:13,940
Like, they don't see the low quality as

3163
01:46:13,940 --> 01:46:17,080
being detrimental to the success of the platform

3164
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,480
because they don't really—they don't see it as

3165
01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:19,160
an art form.

3166
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,200
John, call up John Doerr at Kleiner Perkins.

3167
01:46:22,300 --> 01:46:23,140
Tell him we're coming in.

3168
01:46:23,220 --> 01:46:23,880
We have a deck.

3169
01:46:24,740 --> 01:46:25,700
We've got a pitch.

3170
01:46:25,700 --> 01:46:26,840
We've got a pitch for him.

3171
01:46:26,900 --> 01:46:29,860
We've got a pitch that he just—he doesn't

3172
01:46:29,860 --> 01:46:31,120
want to lose out on this one before

3173
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,220
we go to Calacanis.

3174
01:46:32,740 --> 01:46:33,580
Because we will.

3175
01:46:36,570 --> 01:46:38,550
I have to read what Brunetti says in

3176
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:40,910
terms of this quality problem.

3177
01:46:40,910 --> 01:46:43,790
He says, As for production quality, people have

3178
01:46:43,790 --> 01:46:46,770
become much more forgiving, expecting to focus on

3179
01:46:46,770 --> 01:46:49,510
the content of information rather than the production

3180
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:51,870
value due to things like YouTube and podcasts.

3181
01:46:52,350 --> 01:46:53,070
No agenda.

3182
01:46:53,450 --> 01:46:54,650
It's a case in point.

3183
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:57,870
Lower production value is a draw.

3184
01:46:58,330 --> 01:47:00,410
What are you talking about, Brunetti?

3185
01:47:00,430 --> 01:47:02,170
In quality they expect.

3186
01:47:02,430 --> 01:47:02,910
Wow.

3187
01:47:03,370 --> 01:47:05,850
If there's one thing people say about our

3188
01:47:05,850 --> 01:47:07,470
show, it's the quality of production.

3189
01:47:07,470 --> 01:47:10,310
We play 90 clips in a show.

3190
01:47:11,150 --> 01:47:11,250
Yeah.

3191
01:47:11,470 --> 01:47:13,970
Well, no, I think he was referring to—

3192
01:47:13,970 --> 01:47:14,390
And we're tight.

3193
01:47:14,830 --> 01:47:15,570
Yeah, we are.

3194
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:16,070
Yeah.

3195
01:47:17,130 --> 01:47:17,450
All right.

3196
01:47:17,490 --> 01:47:17,930
Clip four.

3197
01:47:18,190 --> 01:47:19,410
Maybe it's offhanded.

3198
01:47:19,570 --> 01:47:20,470
But let's go with it.

3199
01:47:21,050 --> 01:47:21,810
That was peculiar.

3200
01:47:22,190 --> 01:47:24,290
He's a jealous Hollywood douche is what he

3201
01:47:24,290 --> 01:47:24,510
is.

3202
01:47:24,590 --> 01:47:25,230
That's what he's doing.

3203
01:47:25,330 --> 01:47:27,030
That's what he is.

3204
01:47:27,150 --> 01:47:27,490
That's what he is.

3205
01:47:27,490 --> 01:47:29,350
He tried doing podcasting too, you know.

3206
01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:29,730
I know.

3207
01:47:30,270 --> 01:47:30,670
Exactly.

3208
01:47:30,850 --> 01:47:31,730
Did he consult me?

3209
01:47:32,170 --> 01:47:32,570
No.

3210
01:47:32,730 --> 01:47:33,150
How did it work out?

3211
01:47:33,150 --> 01:47:34,570
No, but you know, this is the thing.

3212
01:47:34,610 --> 01:47:35,490
I said it before.

3213
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:37,990
You're easy to get a hold of.

3214
01:47:38,930 --> 01:47:40,850
And, by the way, with the tip of

3215
01:47:40,850 --> 01:47:42,150
the day, you'll be easier to get a

3216
01:47:42,150 --> 01:47:42,450
hold of.

3217
01:47:42,510 --> 01:47:42,810
Uh-oh.

3218
01:47:44,270 --> 01:47:44,630
Okay.

3219
01:47:45,690 --> 01:47:46,750
It's a tip of the day.

3220
01:47:46,870 --> 01:47:48,070
You know, this tip of the day coming

3221
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:50,850
up is something that I'm very reluctant to

3222
01:47:50,850 --> 01:47:53,770
give as a tip because it's just so

3223
01:47:53,770 --> 01:47:54,050
good.

3224
01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:54,550
Okay.

3225
01:47:55,010 --> 01:47:56,630
So we're on clip four?

3226
01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:57,130
Yes.

3227
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:58,770
Yeah, we can skip this.

3228
01:47:58,810 --> 01:48:00,790
This is just bitching and moaning about production

3229
01:48:00,790 --> 01:48:01,050
quality.

3230
01:48:01,050 --> 01:48:01,390
Okay.

3231
01:48:01,390 --> 01:48:01,650
All right.

3232
01:48:01,650 --> 01:48:02,650
We already just did that.

3233
01:48:02,710 --> 01:48:02,930
All right.

3234
01:48:02,990 --> 01:48:03,450
Clip five?

3235
01:48:03,570 --> 01:48:04,850
So let's go to payment.

3236
01:48:05,050 --> 01:48:05,750
Clip five.

3237
01:48:05,850 --> 01:48:06,650
How do you make money?

3238
01:48:07,290 --> 01:48:07,650
Bitcoin.

3239
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:12,790
By the way, this is outrageous, if true.

3240
01:48:13,010 --> 01:48:13,430
Bitcoin.

3241
01:48:13,610 --> 01:48:14,170
It's Bitcoin.

3242
01:48:14,810 --> 01:48:15,050
No.

3243
01:48:15,490 --> 01:48:17,150
What's the payment model?

3244
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:18,930
How do people pay to get this content?

3245
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:22,210
Typically what happens is somebody will download the

3246
01:48:22,210 --> 01:48:26,330
app, and they advertise heavily on TikTok and

3247
01:48:26,330 --> 01:48:26,710
Instagram.

3248
01:48:26,710 --> 01:48:30,130
And you'll swipe through about 15 minutes worth

3249
01:48:30,130 --> 01:48:33,310
of content, or 15 one-minute videos.

3250
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:36,470
And then they'll say, if you want five

3251
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:38,650
more chapters, or if you want to watch

3252
01:48:38,650 --> 01:48:40,930
five more minutes, you have to pay X

3253
01:48:40,930 --> 01:48:41,450
amount of money.

3254
01:48:41,630 --> 01:48:42,830
It's the premium model.

3255
01:48:42,970 --> 01:48:43,170
$5.

3256
01:48:43,670 --> 01:48:46,870
So in order to finish one of these

3257
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:50,550
series, the user typically has to pay between

3258
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:52,150
$25 to $40.

3259
01:48:53,250 --> 01:48:55,710
Do you anticipate that this is going to

3260
01:48:55,710 --> 01:48:56,490
continue to grow?

3261
01:48:56,490 --> 01:48:59,350
Is this what audiences are looking for these

3262
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:59,650
days?

3263
01:49:00,150 --> 01:49:00,970
It's a great question.

3264
01:49:01,430 --> 01:49:03,390
I got a lot of mixed answers on

3265
01:49:03,390 --> 01:49:03,550
that.

3266
01:49:03,650 --> 01:49:05,390
There are people, even within the vertical shorts

3267
01:49:05,390 --> 01:49:07,430
industry themselves, who think this is just a

3268
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:09,270
fad, this is a niche thing, this is

3269
01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:12,070
never going to get traction in mainstream Hollywood.

3270
01:49:12,250 --> 01:49:14,170
Mainstream Hollywood thinks of this as a joke.

3271
01:49:14,650 --> 01:49:16,850
But I've also heard rumors that pretty big

3272
01:49:16,850 --> 01:49:21,010
platforms are interested in getting into this genre.

3273
01:49:21,450 --> 01:49:22,770
I think that what we've learned over the

3274
01:49:22,770 --> 01:49:24,850
past five years with the streaming wars and

3275
01:49:24,850 --> 01:49:27,370
with the strikes and all the obstacles that

3276
01:49:27,370 --> 01:49:30,570
Hollywood has had to overcome is that Hollywood

3277
01:49:30,570 --> 01:49:34,870
underestimates this type of digital content, this type

3278
01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:36,950
of innovative digital content at its own peril.

3279
01:49:38,690 --> 01:49:43,850
Well, so I think she might be somewhat

3280
01:49:43,850 --> 01:49:46,190
wrong because Brunetti had a positive view of

3281
01:49:46,190 --> 01:49:46,770
this thing.

3282
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:49,470
And the other thing is you've already done

3283
01:49:49,470 --> 01:49:53,210
this with your detective stories.

3284
01:49:53,210 --> 01:49:56,050
Remember that you were like a detective on

3285
01:49:56,050 --> 01:50:01,290
some podcast that was shot in Georgia or

3286
01:50:01,290 --> 01:50:03,030
something and you came in as one of

3287
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:05,150
the stars of the detective show?

3288
01:50:05,310 --> 01:50:06,930
What are you talking about?

3289
01:50:07,150 --> 01:50:08,650
Don't you remember this series?

3290
01:50:08,770 --> 01:50:10,030
You did some acting.

3291
01:50:10,590 --> 01:50:11,870
A Swamp Thing?

3292
01:50:12,610 --> 01:50:13,230
No, no.

3293
01:50:13,310 --> 01:50:13,830
It was later.

3294
01:50:13,970 --> 01:50:14,930
It was some other thing.

3295
01:50:15,110 --> 01:50:16,630
It was on Mevio.

3296
01:50:16,690 --> 01:50:17,690
I remember it.

3297
01:50:18,370 --> 01:50:20,290
And you came in, you wore a trench

3298
01:50:20,290 --> 01:50:20,390
coat.

3299
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:21,090
Wait, wait, wait.

3300
01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:23,630
That was written by Mark Yashimoda Nemkov.

3301
01:50:25,130 --> 01:50:25,390
Yeah.

3302
01:50:25,930 --> 01:50:26,150
Yeah.

3303
01:50:26,270 --> 01:50:28,490
I'm kind of remembering this.

3304
01:50:28,930 --> 01:50:31,370
And you were an actor and it was

3305
01:50:31,370 --> 01:50:32,530
a terrible product.

3306
01:50:32,590 --> 01:50:32,950
Yes.

3307
01:50:33,150 --> 01:50:34,270
Just like this.

3308
01:50:34,530 --> 01:50:35,850
It was a bad product.

3309
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:38,150
Just like this.

3310
01:50:38,450 --> 01:50:40,090
I'm looking at my IMDb.

3311
01:50:40,110 --> 01:50:40,590
And you could have been divvied up into

3312
01:50:40,590 --> 01:50:42,090
a bunch of little segments and you could

3313
01:50:42,090 --> 01:50:44,530
have made this the millions of dollar deal

3314
01:50:44,530 --> 01:50:44,890
here.

3315
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:45,630
No.

3316
01:50:45,770 --> 01:50:47,390
But you've already done this is the point.

3317
01:50:48,170 --> 01:50:50,850
This is how unbelievable this is.

3318
01:50:51,110 --> 01:50:53,790
You've already done it and forgot you did

3319
01:50:53,790 --> 01:50:54,050
it.

3320
01:50:54,210 --> 01:50:56,750
And, as usual with things I do early

3321
01:50:56,750 --> 01:50:58,510
on, made no money from it.

3322
01:50:58,630 --> 01:50:59,310
It's amazing.

3323
01:50:59,910 --> 01:51:01,390
It's a triple threat.

3324
01:51:02,230 --> 01:51:03,810
My track record is intact.

3325
01:51:05,110 --> 01:51:05,270
No.

3326
01:51:05,950 --> 01:51:06,150
No.

3327
01:51:06,730 --> 01:51:09,510
Sure, this is what, and a lot of

3328
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:10,810
money will be spent on this.

3329
01:51:10,910 --> 01:51:12,770
This is why I joked about calling Kleiner

3330
01:51:12,770 --> 01:51:13,210
Perkins.

3331
01:51:13,690 --> 01:51:14,870
What people want.

3332
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:16,610
They want the dancing.

3333
01:51:17,110 --> 01:51:19,230
They want the makeup in the morning.

3334
01:51:19,490 --> 01:51:20,810
Hey, get ready with me.

3335
01:51:21,210 --> 01:51:21,590
They want.

3336
01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:24,690
By the way, how many women are on

3337
01:51:24,690 --> 01:51:26,710
these shows talking about one thing or another

3338
01:51:26,710 --> 01:51:29,630
or just talking about makeup and putting makeup

3339
01:51:29,630 --> 01:51:31,650
on during the TikTok video?

3340
01:51:31,730 --> 01:51:33,170
I know a little bit about the.

3341
01:51:33,530 --> 01:51:36,670
Slashing themselves with makeup and doing the eyeliner

3342
01:51:36,670 --> 01:51:37,730
and cut, cut, cut.

3343
01:51:37,930 --> 01:51:38,030
Yes.

3344
01:51:38,030 --> 01:51:39,610
Selling moving product, baby.

3345
01:51:40,130 --> 01:51:41,070
Moving products.

3346
01:51:41,230 --> 01:51:42,890
I know a little bit about the cosmetic

3347
01:51:42,890 --> 01:51:43,470
industry.

3348
01:51:43,470 --> 01:51:45,290
It's a great business.

3349
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:47,970
It's just goop in a different tube.

3350
01:51:48,090 --> 01:51:51,270
Everyone gets the eyeliner pencils all from the

3351
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:52,190
guys in Germany.

3352
01:51:52,330 --> 01:51:54,030
One company does all the eyeliner pencils.

3353
01:51:54,510 --> 01:51:57,010
It's goop and just goop.

3354
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:58,370
Goop in a tube.

3355
01:51:59,170 --> 01:51:59,630
This is great.

3356
01:51:59,770 --> 01:52:01,490
We want to see the cooking videos.

3357
01:52:01,810 --> 01:52:03,810
How do I make a carnivore pizza?

3358
01:52:04,210 --> 01:52:05,610
This is what we want.

3359
01:52:05,950 --> 01:52:07,850
And we are the rulers of that.

3360
01:52:08,370 --> 01:52:10,810
And of course, of course, Brunetti would like

3361
01:52:10,810 --> 01:52:11,030
this.

3362
01:52:11,090 --> 01:52:12,070
He's a Hollywood guy.

3363
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:14,150
He's going to lose his shirt if he

3364
01:52:14,150 --> 01:52:14,990
gets into this business.

3365
01:52:15,150 --> 01:52:16,010
Stay away from it, Dana.

3366
01:52:16,170 --> 01:52:16,670
Stay away.

3367
01:52:17,850 --> 01:52:19,790
You want to have the influencers.

3368
01:52:20,050 --> 01:52:21,970
You want to have the nut jobs who

3369
01:52:21,970 --> 01:52:22,610
are cheap.

3370
01:52:23,310 --> 01:52:24,630
And then, you know, you heat them up

3371
01:52:24,630 --> 01:52:25,610
with your, with your algo.

3372
01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:26,650
Oh, look at this guy.

3373
01:52:26,710 --> 01:52:28,470
He's got a million, a million followers.

3374
01:52:28,890 --> 01:52:29,250
Boom.

3375
01:52:29,310 --> 01:52:30,470
You get 2 million followers.

3376
01:52:30,590 --> 01:52:31,050
Keep it going.

3377
01:52:31,210 --> 01:52:31,550
Export.

3378
01:52:32,630 --> 01:52:33,490
That's the business.

3379
01:52:33,570 --> 01:52:35,210
Not this vertical shorts.

3380
01:52:35,310 --> 01:52:37,170
No, no, no, no, no.

3381
01:52:37,290 --> 01:52:38,490
No, it's limited.

3382
01:52:38,490 --> 01:52:41,930
Limited versus the hundreds of billions that American

3383
01:52:41,930 --> 01:52:42,910
make exporting.

3384
01:52:43,070 --> 01:52:47,990
Our dancers, our cookers, our makeup ladies, our

3385
01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:48,850
guys with guns.

3386
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:49,730
Guys with guns.

3387
01:52:50,330 --> 01:52:50,730
Oh, my God.

3388
01:52:50,750 --> 01:52:53,670
This is such a great, great category.

3389
01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:55,570
So, I have to, I don't want to

3390
01:52:55,570 --> 01:52:56,510
burst your bubble.

3391
01:52:57,010 --> 01:52:58,390
Chicks in bikinis with guns.

3392
01:52:58,690 --> 01:52:59,210
Even better.

3393
01:52:59,210 --> 01:53:00,210
Yeah, well, that's always a winner.

3394
01:53:00,330 --> 01:53:01,370
There's a winner, by the way.

3395
01:53:01,770 --> 01:53:03,790
So, I have, I usually run off of

3396
01:53:03,790 --> 01:53:04,410
a VPN.

3397
01:53:05,770 --> 01:53:11,150
So, when I hit TikTok online, it usually

3398
01:53:11,150 --> 01:53:13,430
is TikTok in Argentina.

3399
01:53:14,770 --> 01:53:17,290
And so, they start throwing these videos at

3400
01:53:17,290 --> 01:53:19,310
me because I'm always looking for somebody complaining

3401
01:53:19,310 --> 01:53:22,070
about the elections or some, usually a black

3402
01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:23,750
woman bitching about how Ken was going to

3403
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:24,490
still be president.

3404
01:53:24,890 --> 01:53:27,550
But they don't have those in Argentina.

3405
01:53:27,810 --> 01:53:30,530
But they have the dancing girls.

3406
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:33,530
And they got the guys falling down.

3407
01:53:33,610 --> 01:53:34,390
They got the cooking.

3408
01:53:35,810 --> 01:53:37,630
Everything's exactly the same.

3409
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:38,050
Yes.

3410
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:40,270
Yes.

3411
01:53:40,410 --> 01:53:41,350
And that should be us.

3412
01:53:41,590 --> 01:53:42,250
In Spanish.

3413
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:43,190
I know.

3414
01:53:43,510 --> 01:53:44,150
We can export.

3415
01:53:44,290 --> 01:53:44,990
We got Spaniards.

3416
01:53:45,370 --> 01:53:46,370
We got Spanish chicks.

3417
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:51,070
I got a Spaniard over here right now.

3418
01:53:51,170 --> 01:53:51,690
Hey, buddy.

3419
01:53:52,030 --> 01:53:53,290
We are a melting pot.

3420
01:53:53,610 --> 01:53:55,930
We are a melting pot of cultures.

3421
01:53:56,290 --> 01:53:58,450
Anyway, that, if I ever get to speak

3422
01:53:58,450 --> 01:53:59,850
to President Trump, this is what I will

3423
01:53:59,850 --> 01:54:00,230
tell him.

3424
01:54:00,270 --> 01:54:01,690
We need more influencers.

3425
01:54:02,230 --> 01:54:03,510
Mr. Wonderful, buy it.

3426
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:04,350
I'm all for it.

3427
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:04,830
Let's go.

3428
01:54:05,510 --> 01:54:06,550
And with that, I want to thank you

3429
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:07,190
for your courage.

3430
01:54:07,290 --> 01:54:09,350
In the morning to you, the man who

3431
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:12,350
put the C's in covert content manipulation.

3432
01:54:12,730 --> 01:54:13,990
Say hello to my friend on the other

3433
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:14,210
end.

3434
01:54:14,350 --> 01:54:16,650
The one, the only, Mr. John C.

3435
01:54:17,310 --> 01:54:17,590
Devorah.

3436
01:54:20,430 --> 01:54:21,950
Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam

3437
01:54:21,950 --> 01:54:22,270
Carell.

3438
01:54:22,330 --> 01:54:23,210
Say in the morning to the ships, the

3439
01:54:23,210 --> 01:54:24,430
seaboats, and the raffia, and the air subs,

3440
01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:25,390
and the water, and the dames and knights

3441
01:54:25,390 --> 01:54:25,810
out there.

3442
01:54:26,590 --> 01:54:27,150
Hello, trolls.

3443
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:28,010
In the morning to you.

3444
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:29,230
Let me count you for a second.

3445
01:54:32,810 --> 01:54:34,350
What do you think it is today?

3446
01:54:35,190 --> 01:54:36,190
What do you think we have?

3447
01:54:36,710 --> 01:54:37,650
It should be 2,500.

3448
01:54:38,150 --> 01:54:39,390
Yeah, it's right below that.

3449
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:40,350
2,432.

3450
01:54:40,570 --> 01:54:41,690
With the average.

3451
01:54:42,250 --> 01:54:43,670
Well, we're also late.

3452
01:54:43,770 --> 01:54:44,370
We're a little late.

3453
01:54:45,410 --> 01:54:46,290
But average.

3454
01:54:46,450 --> 01:54:46,770
Average.

3455
01:54:46,990 --> 01:54:49,030
What is not average is the support we

3456
01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:49,510
got today.

3457
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:50,390
Below average.

3458
01:54:50,430 --> 01:54:52,050
Below average, it was terrible.

3459
01:54:52,530 --> 01:54:53,990
We're lucky to be alive.

3460
01:54:55,470 --> 01:54:56,930
We're going to have to start doing makeup

3461
01:54:56,930 --> 01:54:57,350
tips.

3462
01:54:58,590 --> 01:54:59,210
That's just terrible.

3463
01:54:59,210 --> 01:55:00,490
Just to stay afloat.

3464
01:55:01,090 --> 01:55:02,610
Video, yeah, I can see it.

3465
01:55:02,630 --> 01:55:03,210
Just to stay afloat.

3466
01:55:03,210 --> 01:55:03,790
Poke your eye out.

3467
01:55:04,050 --> 01:55:05,290
Oh, my eye.

3468
01:55:07,410 --> 01:55:09,670
I don't even know how women can draw

3469
01:55:09,670 --> 01:55:09,930
those.

3470
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:11,910
I guess you get used to it after

3471
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:13,790
doing it for hundreds of years.

3472
01:55:14,030 --> 01:55:19,950
You know, Donnie Wahlberg, he's married to Jenny

3473
01:55:19,950 --> 01:55:20,430
McCarthy.

3474
01:55:21,230 --> 01:55:23,190
And they have a whole spiel, man.

3475
01:55:23,210 --> 01:55:26,550
She goes live for hours selling her own

3476
01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:27,290
makeup line.

3477
01:55:27,290 --> 01:55:29,310
He's sitting there next to her going, yeah,

3478
01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:30,110
that looks good, babe.

3479
01:55:30,430 --> 01:55:32,630
It looks good, babe.

3480
01:55:32,710 --> 01:55:33,110
Really?

3481
01:55:33,390 --> 01:55:34,750
You have to watch this.

3482
01:55:35,150 --> 01:55:36,750
And it's almost like QVC.

3483
01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:39,110
The stream runs continuously.

3484
01:55:39,370 --> 01:55:40,270
Like, she never sleeps.

3485
01:55:40,690 --> 01:55:42,410
And she's like, hey, guys, look at this.

3486
01:55:42,510 --> 01:55:43,610
And, of course, she's beautiful.

3487
01:55:43,870 --> 01:55:45,510
And she just keeps on putting this stuff

3488
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:45,850
on.

3489
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:47,410
And then, look at this product.

3490
01:55:47,530 --> 01:55:48,370
You can buy it now.

3491
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:49,190
Go to my website.

3492
01:55:50,130 --> 01:55:51,670
This is the future.

3493
01:55:52,190 --> 01:55:52,690
What do you think?

3494
01:55:52,990 --> 01:55:54,710
We're going to manufacture stuff?

3495
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:56,070
Come on.

3496
01:55:56,890 --> 01:55:58,370
I just don't see it.

3497
01:55:59,110 --> 01:56:00,630
You know, it will make some things.

3498
01:56:00,750 --> 01:56:03,750
Beer, beer, guns, cars.

3499
01:56:04,450 --> 01:56:06,550
Yeah, but we also can make jet fighters.

3500
01:56:06,830 --> 01:56:09,190
Jet fighters, burgers, big beautiful ships.

3501
01:56:09,230 --> 01:56:11,390
Jet fighters and burgers are us.

3502
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:12,410
Yes.

3503
01:56:13,030 --> 01:56:14,470
And there's nothing wrong with it.

3504
01:56:14,910 --> 01:56:16,810
You know, I check out these fast food

3505
01:56:16,810 --> 01:56:17,090
places.

3506
01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:18,390
I got a burger.

3507
01:56:18,530 --> 01:56:20,450
I got something worth eating.

3508
01:56:20,530 --> 01:56:21,190
You got a burger update.

3509
01:56:23,390 --> 01:56:23,950
Yes.

3510
01:56:23,950 --> 01:56:31,190
The bacon melt on sale at Jack in

3511
01:56:31,190 --> 01:56:32,810
the Box is quite edible.

3512
01:56:33,090 --> 01:56:34,270
Now, does that come with bread?

3513
01:56:34,450 --> 01:56:36,950
Or is it just bacon, cheese, burger, and

3514
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:37,050
melt?

3515
01:56:37,050 --> 01:56:38,810
No, it's got two pieces of, it looks

3516
01:56:38,810 --> 01:56:40,450
like, upside down buns.

3517
01:56:40,730 --> 01:56:42,510
So the outside looks like there's a piece

3518
01:56:42,510 --> 01:56:42,770
of bread.

3519
01:56:43,210 --> 01:56:46,630
But it's two patties with two things of

3520
01:56:46,630 --> 01:56:48,970
gooey cheese and some bacon.

3521
01:56:49,250 --> 01:56:50,910
What more could you ask for?

3522
01:56:52,190 --> 01:56:53,390
It's five bucks.

3523
01:56:53,390 --> 01:56:55,730
What made you purchase this product?

3524
01:56:55,870 --> 01:56:56,590
I'm surprised.

3525
01:56:56,990 --> 01:56:59,130
Every time they have Burger Wars, you know,

3526
01:56:59,190 --> 01:57:01,710
and all these chains, I always say, this

3527
01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:02,410
is interesting.

3528
01:57:02,610 --> 01:57:03,450
Burger Wars.

3529
01:57:03,730 --> 01:57:04,790
Burger Wars.

3530
01:57:05,250 --> 01:57:07,830
I go check them out every so often

3531
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:08,950
for the benefit of the show.

3532
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:10,510
Because, you know, I used to do the

3533
01:57:10,510 --> 01:57:11,170
McDonald's.

3534
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:12,370
You can't do that anymore.

3535
01:57:12,510 --> 01:57:13,050
It makes you sick.

3536
01:57:13,070 --> 01:57:14,550
No, because it's so unedible.

3537
01:57:14,670 --> 01:57:15,290
It makes you sick.

3538
01:57:15,590 --> 01:57:18,530
Or inedible that I don't even try a

3539
01:57:18,530 --> 01:57:19,510
McDonald's anymore.

3540
01:57:19,710 --> 01:57:20,010
It's nasty.

3541
01:57:20,050 --> 01:57:21,250
It's like eating paper.

3542
01:57:21,410 --> 01:57:21,950
It's nasty.

3543
01:57:21,950 --> 01:57:22,810
I'm with you.

3544
01:57:22,890 --> 01:57:23,350
It's nasty.

3545
01:57:23,530 --> 01:57:23,950
Just nasty.

3546
01:57:24,410 --> 01:57:26,130
And the fries are soggy?

3547
01:57:26,330 --> 01:57:26,530
I mean.

3548
01:57:26,670 --> 01:57:27,130
Oh, no.

3549
01:57:27,470 --> 01:57:28,870
It's gone off the rails.

3550
01:57:29,010 --> 01:57:30,730
And I don't understand why people go there

3551
01:57:30,730 --> 01:57:31,090
at all.

3552
01:57:32,230 --> 01:57:34,370
The trolls are in the troll room.

3553
01:57:34,490 --> 01:57:36,050
And, of course, have been quite helpful today.

3554
01:57:36,330 --> 01:57:37,550
Good work, trolls.

3555
01:57:37,690 --> 01:57:38,350
We appreciate you.

3556
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:41,050
They tune in every single Thursday and Sunday.

3557
01:57:41,130 --> 01:57:44,850
We do the show live, which is, it

3558
01:57:44,850 --> 01:57:45,550
is the way.

3559
01:57:45,650 --> 01:57:47,450
If you're thinking of doing a podcast, do

3560
01:57:47,450 --> 01:57:47,890
it live.

3561
01:57:48,690 --> 01:57:49,750
Just do it live.

3562
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:52,270
Because you have a built-in studio audience.

3563
01:57:53,050 --> 01:57:54,190
I mean, it's amazing.

3564
01:57:54,370 --> 01:57:56,910
It is truly the way to go.

3565
01:57:57,810 --> 01:58:00,730
And so they're listening at trollroom.io. They

3566
01:58:00,730 --> 01:58:01,530
listen live.

3567
01:58:01,630 --> 01:58:03,050
They can hop into the troll room if

3568
01:58:03,050 --> 01:58:03,690
they want to.

3569
01:58:04,410 --> 01:58:05,850
You can also use one of the modern

3570
01:58:05,850 --> 01:58:06,830
podcast apps.

3571
01:58:07,310 --> 01:58:11,270
Don't use anything phony, like from China or

3572
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:14,250
Cupertino or Sweden.

3573
01:58:14,890 --> 01:58:16,210
Get something made in America.

3574
01:58:16,210 --> 01:58:19,090
Like the guys from Fountain there in the

3575
01:58:19,090 --> 01:58:19,330
UK.

3576
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:23,090
Get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.

3577
01:58:23,170 --> 01:58:24,810
You'll get a bat signal when we go

3578
01:58:24,810 --> 01:58:25,290
live.

3579
01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:29,090
And when we publish 90 seconds later, you're

3580
01:58:29,090 --> 01:58:30,850
like, Whoa, they're published already.

3581
01:58:30,910 --> 01:58:31,690
It's good to go.

3582
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:33,470
And we appreciate that.

3583
01:58:34,530 --> 01:58:36,150
Well, we don't get it out in 90

3584
01:58:36,150 --> 01:58:36,650
seconds.

3585
01:58:36,690 --> 01:58:36,890
No, no.

3586
01:58:36,930 --> 01:58:39,390
When we publish, it's out in 90 seconds.

3587
01:58:39,470 --> 01:58:39,790
Oh, yeah.

3588
01:58:40,130 --> 01:58:42,390
When we publish, you get a bat signal.

3589
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:44,550
Just for people to know, it takes about

3590
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:49,070
a half an hour to, usually about a

3591
01:58:49,070 --> 01:58:51,690
half an hour to get the show wrapped

3592
01:58:51,690 --> 01:58:51,790
up.

3593
01:58:51,790 --> 01:58:53,630
Yeah, half an hour to 45 minutes.

3594
01:58:54,070 --> 01:58:54,790
Yeah, sometimes.

3595
01:58:55,030 --> 01:58:57,090
So the trolls contribute.

3596
01:58:57,830 --> 01:58:58,870
We appreciate that.

3597
01:58:58,970 --> 01:59:00,170
Time, talent, and treasure.

3598
01:59:00,310 --> 01:59:02,790
Actually, to help us out today to explain

3599
01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:05,810
the value for value model, although not entirely

3600
01:59:05,810 --> 01:59:08,790
correct, I love the fact that we started

3601
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:11,210
this 17 years ago.

3602
01:59:11,210 --> 01:59:14,750
We have been using the phrase value for

3603
01:59:14,750 --> 01:59:15,250
value.

3604
01:59:15,450 --> 01:59:18,330
In the last couple years, it has started

3605
01:59:18,330 --> 01:59:19,310
to catch on.

3606
01:59:19,650 --> 01:59:21,310
People are using it without even knowing the

3607
01:59:21,310 --> 01:59:21,690
origin.

3608
01:59:22,470 --> 01:59:25,390
But there's another podcast out there that is

3609
01:59:25,390 --> 01:59:28,270
using value for value, and they credit us.

3610
01:59:29,390 --> 01:59:30,810
Oh, well, that's nice.

3611
01:59:31,530 --> 01:59:34,850
Please welcome J-Cal, Jason Calacanis.

3612
01:59:35,070 --> 01:59:36,750
And we had this concept of anybody could

3613
01:59:36,750 --> 01:59:38,290
be a producer this week in startups.

3614
01:59:38,290 --> 01:59:40,350
And I had cribbed that from Adam Curry,

3615
01:59:40,450 --> 01:59:41,970
who was doing that on his No Agenda

3616
01:59:41,970 --> 01:59:43,030
podcast at the time.

3617
01:59:43,530 --> 01:59:46,430
And I wound up panning that because we

3618
01:59:46,430 --> 01:59:47,870
had so much advertising, I didn't need the

3619
01:59:47,870 --> 01:59:48,090
money.

3620
01:59:48,590 --> 01:59:50,010
And I thought, I'll just go with ads.

3621
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:51,750
But the one thing that I think Adam

3622
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:53,410
Curry and John C.

3623
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:56,810
Dvorak, John Dvorak, what they got right was

3624
01:59:56,810 --> 01:59:58,170
they have such an engaged audience.

3625
01:59:58,430 --> 02:00:00,090
I forgot about No Agenda for a couple

3626
02:00:00,090 --> 02:00:01,390
of years, and then I started listening to

3627
02:00:01,390 --> 02:00:01,750
it again.

3628
02:00:02,310 --> 02:00:03,650
And it's actually quite good.

3629
02:00:03,730 --> 02:00:06,550
And what I love about what John Dvorak,

3630
02:00:06,590 --> 02:00:08,590
who I grew up on, he used to

3631
02:00:08,590 --> 02:00:10,590
write for PC Magazine, which was a print

3632
02:00:10,590 --> 02:00:11,430
magazine about PCs.

3633
02:00:11,570 --> 02:00:14,210
And I always idolized John Dvorak, Jim Seymour,

3634
02:00:14,270 --> 02:00:16,230
all the guys who wrote these columns, because

3635
02:00:16,230 --> 02:00:18,050
I was obsessed with PCs in the 80s.

3636
02:00:18,090 --> 02:00:19,990
And my dream was to someday be a

3637
02:00:19,990 --> 02:00:21,610
columnist in PC Magazine.

3638
02:00:22,190 --> 02:00:24,150
And, of course, Adam Curry was, hey, it's

3639
02:00:24,150 --> 02:00:26,110
Adam Curry, watch the VJ.

3640
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:28,090
I was like, well, that's a pretty cool

3641
02:00:28,090 --> 02:00:28,490
gig, too.

3642
02:00:28,570 --> 02:00:29,750
So I love both of those guys.

3643
02:00:30,970 --> 02:00:32,790
They're probably a decade or two ahead of

3644
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:33,350
me in careers.

3645
02:00:33,410 --> 02:00:34,730
And I just thought they were great broadcasters

3646
02:00:34,730 --> 02:00:35,210
and writers.

3647
02:00:35,650 --> 02:00:38,470
Putting all that aside, that's such an activated

3648
02:00:38,470 --> 02:00:39,010
audience.

3649
02:00:39,010 --> 02:00:41,650
And they do something called value for value.

3650
02:00:42,250 --> 02:00:44,830
So you can provide value to them by

3651
02:00:44,830 --> 02:00:48,270
writing show notes or suggesting stories or making

3652
02:00:48,270 --> 02:00:49,130
album art.

3653
02:00:49,310 --> 02:00:51,050
And then, or you can make a donation,

3654
02:00:51,210 --> 02:00:52,210
and then they shout you out on the

3655
02:00:52,210 --> 02:00:52,330
air.

3656
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:53,770
I'm not planning on doing that.

3657
02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:55,570
But what I think is really interesting is

3658
02:00:55,570 --> 02:00:56,350
that they...

3659
02:00:56,770 --> 02:00:57,870
Okay, there's your mistake.

3660
02:00:58,150 --> 02:00:59,030
No credit for you.

3661
02:00:59,290 --> 02:00:59,790
No credit for you.

3662
02:00:59,810 --> 02:01:01,090
We're not doing that, no.

3663
02:01:01,310 --> 02:01:03,310
We're not doing any of that credit, no,

3664
02:01:03,390 --> 02:01:03,710
no.

3665
02:01:05,150 --> 02:01:06,250
I love J.

3666
02:01:06,330 --> 02:01:06,510
Cole.

3667
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:09,990
Now, he did a thing recently where he

3668
02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:13,390
went after Zuckerberg on his show with all

3669
02:01:13,390 --> 02:01:14,350
the VCs up there.

3670
02:01:14,410 --> 02:01:15,490
I forget the name of the show called.

3671
02:01:15,610 --> 02:01:16,450
Yeah, the...

3672
02:01:16,450 --> 02:01:17,670
Shout Out or...

3673
02:01:17,670 --> 02:01:19,350
The VC show.

3674
02:01:19,970 --> 02:01:20,270
Choke Point.

3675
02:01:21,610 --> 02:01:22,490
Choke Point show?

3676
02:01:22,510 --> 02:01:23,190
I don't know what the name of the

3677
02:01:23,190 --> 02:01:23,590
show is.

3678
02:01:23,670 --> 02:01:25,490
No, that was the title of that episode.

3679
02:01:25,730 --> 02:01:27,490
No, it's called All In, All In Podcast.

3680
02:01:27,510 --> 02:01:28,970
All In, which is good.

3681
02:01:29,170 --> 02:01:31,410
It's entertaining if you want to listen to

3682
02:01:31,410 --> 02:01:33,970
the financial guys go on and on about

3683
02:01:33,970 --> 02:01:34,910
how they're going to make money.

3684
02:01:35,390 --> 02:01:38,590
But he goes off on Zuckerberg.

3685
02:01:38,830 --> 02:01:40,490
I thought it was over the top.

3686
02:01:40,610 --> 02:01:42,170
But very entertaining.

3687
02:01:42,750 --> 02:01:43,850
Well, that's what he does.

3688
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:44,450
J.

3689
02:01:44,570 --> 02:01:45,170
Cole does that.

3690
02:01:46,090 --> 02:01:47,610
He's always been entertaining.

3691
02:01:48,130 --> 02:01:49,590
So we want to give credit...

3692
02:01:49,590 --> 02:01:50,710
Even though he talks like this.

3693
02:01:51,070 --> 02:01:54,010
We want to give credit to Darren O

3694
02:01:54,010 --> 02:01:57,830
'Neill for his outstanding album art for episode

3695
02:01:57,830 --> 02:02:02,830
1729, which we titled Hatchet Man, which Elon

3696
02:02:02,830 --> 02:02:04,730
Musk is Trump's hatchet man.

3697
02:02:05,090 --> 02:02:07,490
And he did a stroopwafel, or as some

3698
02:02:07,490 --> 02:02:11,590
would say, stroopwafel, which had the No Agenda

3699
02:02:11,590 --> 02:02:13,910
Bakery, Noah Curry Dvorak.

3700
02:02:14,070 --> 02:02:15,130
It had a windmill on there.

3701
02:02:15,190 --> 02:02:16,810
It was in cellophane packaging.

3702
02:02:17,790 --> 02:02:21,810
We suspect it probably wasn't even AI generated.

3703
02:02:22,210 --> 02:02:25,390
And what we said is, if Tante Neil

3704
02:02:25,390 --> 02:02:27,130
had done this, we would have not even

3705
02:02:27,130 --> 02:02:28,810
wavered and chosen it right away.

3706
02:02:30,610 --> 02:02:33,450
And turns out Tante Neil, there was a

3707
02:02:33,450 --> 02:02:36,030
little conversation going on there over the mastodons.

3708
02:02:36,630 --> 02:02:39,990
She said, I would have done this exactly

3709
02:02:39,990 --> 02:02:42,310
myself, but I was on an airplane and

3710
02:02:42,310 --> 02:02:43,610
couldn't do it in time.

3711
02:02:44,550 --> 02:02:46,130
How about that for coincidence?

3712
02:02:48,130 --> 02:02:48,310
Wow.

3713
02:02:48,650 --> 02:02:51,930
So Darren is channeling Tante Neil.

3714
02:02:52,050 --> 02:02:53,870
He is a Dutch master now.

3715
02:02:54,030 --> 02:02:54,950
A Dutch master.

3716
02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:57,310
I don't know if everybody got this, but

3717
02:02:57,310 --> 02:02:58,570
it entertained us.

3718
02:02:58,710 --> 02:02:59,650
We thought it was cool.

3719
02:03:00,310 --> 02:03:01,490
Let me see what else.

3720
02:03:01,770 --> 02:03:03,070
I just thought it was, it was a

3721
02:03:03,070 --> 02:03:08,990
well-structured, composition-wise, and it looked so

3722
02:03:08,990 --> 02:03:10,690
realistic looking.

3723
02:03:11,010 --> 02:03:12,690
It looks like we do own a bakery.

3724
02:03:13,270 --> 02:03:15,190
In fact, exit strategy.

3725
02:03:15,650 --> 02:03:16,590
No Agenda Bakery.

3726
02:03:16,850 --> 02:03:18,190
Buy your stroopwafels here.

3727
02:03:18,930 --> 02:03:19,150
Yeah.

3728
02:03:20,250 --> 02:03:21,070
Other arts.

3729
02:03:21,070 --> 02:03:21,930
I got a note.

3730
02:03:21,950 --> 02:03:23,090
I got a note from someone.

3731
02:03:23,190 --> 02:03:24,350
Oh, do tell.

3732
02:03:24,350 --> 02:03:27,110
Because I bitched about this stupid idea of

3733
02:03:27,110 --> 02:03:28,830
letting the thing soften and get gooey.

3734
02:03:29,530 --> 02:03:32,210
And he says, you're wrong, Dvorak.

3735
02:03:32,270 --> 02:03:34,070
And he shows me a picture of some

3736
02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:38,830
company's stroopwafel that actually has instructions on the

3737
02:03:38,830 --> 02:03:41,190
back on how to do it.

3738
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:43,150
How to put the thing over the steaming

3739
02:03:43,150 --> 02:03:44,510
hot cup of coffee.

3740
02:03:45,230 --> 02:03:45,330
Yeah.

3741
02:03:46,130 --> 02:03:47,190
Silliest thing ever.

3742
02:03:47,570 --> 02:03:49,310
No, it's the Dutch way.

3743
02:03:50,090 --> 02:03:51,170
It's the Dutch way.

3744
02:03:51,310 --> 02:03:53,790
Well, my dad used to dunk donuts.

3745
02:03:53,790 --> 02:03:54,350
Yeah.

3746
02:03:55,230 --> 02:03:58,530
So all the other art was mediocre at

3747
02:03:58,530 --> 02:03:58,970
best.

3748
02:03:59,430 --> 02:04:01,090
A lot of lighter fluid.

3749
02:04:01,730 --> 02:04:02,530
You know, okay.

3750
02:04:04,270 --> 02:04:05,510
Fire extinguishers.

3751
02:04:05,630 --> 02:04:06,570
There was some fish.

3752
02:04:07,170 --> 02:04:11,870
I did use comic strip bloggers Hollywood sign

3753
02:04:11,870 --> 02:04:13,970
on fire for the newsletter.

3754
02:04:14,210 --> 02:04:14,830
Yeah, that was decent.

3755
02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:18,210
And we talked about correct the records Canada

3756
02:04:18,210 --> 02:04:20,050
flag with the maple leaf saying I have

3757
02:04:20,050 --> 02:04:23,130
a complaint, but it was so simplistic compared

3758
02:04:23,130 --> 02:04:27,710
to the intricacies of the stroopwafel that it

3759
02:04:27,710 --> 02:04:29,390
just barely lost out.

3760
02:04:29,550 --> 02:04:30,190
Just barely.

3761
02:04:31,390 --> 02:04:32,470
It's a good idea though.

3762
02:04:32,670 --> 02:04:32,910
Yes.

3763
02:04:32,990 --> 02:04:37,650
On that note, as I take notes, everybody

3764
02:04:37,650 --> 02:04:39,890
has to understand, John does nothing.

3765
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:42,710
He just tells me to remember everything, to

3766
02:04:42,710 --> 02:04:46,010
do everything, to write everything down, make a

3767
02:04:46,010 --> 02:04:47,110
note, put this in the show.

3768
02:04:47,150 --> 02:04:48,430
And John just shows up.

3769
02:04:48,430 --> 02:04:50,110
You make me sound like a slouch.

3770
02:04:50,830 --> 02:04:52,650
John just shows up.

3771
02:04:53,530 --> 02:04:56,490
And it was my job to remind you.

3772
02:04:57,010 --> 02:04:57,970
You're in, you're out.

3773
02:04:58,190 --> 02:05:04,490
The leaderboard recap of 2024 of the art

3774
02:05:04,490 --> 02:05:05,850
generator and the artists.

3775
02:05:06,430 --> 02:05:08,050
I was just about to bring that up.

3776
02:05:08,190 --> 02:05:09,490
Oh, sure you were.

3777
02:05:12,910 --> 02:05:13,550
Yeah.

3778
02:05:13,630 --> 02:05:18,410
It turns out that last year's winner in

3779
02:05:18,410 --> 02:05:23,410
so far as the annual count was concerned,

3780
02:05:23,550 --> 02:05:25,570
it was Francisco Scaramanga.

3781
02:05:25,710 --> 02:05:27,770
I think he won 15 times 16 as

3782
02:05:27,770 --> 02:05:28,710
of recently.

3783
02:05:28,990 --> 02:05:29,290
Wow.

3784
02:05:29,550 --> 02:05:32,810
Beating Kenny Ben by four and Darren by

3785
02:05:32,810 --> 02:05:33,550
five.

3786
02:05:33,730 --> 02:05:34,890
Darren is really up there.

3787
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:38,550
Tantaniel got eight and Sir Shug is a

3788
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:40,150
six, correct the record, six.

3789
02:05:40,610 --> 02:05:42,810
But so he gets the MFA.

3790
02:05:43,530 --> 02:05:44,650
Master of Fine Arts.

3791
02:05:45,490 --> 02:05:46,010
Yeah.

3792
02:05:46,370 --> 02:05:46,710
Fantastic.

3793
02:05:48,430 --> 02:05:53,470
So Scaramanga, go to noagenderings.com, I guess.

3794
02:05:53,930 --> 02:05:57,450
Or send a note to noagendershow.net and

3795
02:05:57,450 --> 02:05:58,990
tell Jay.

3796
02:05:59,150 --> 02:06:00,810
Notes at noagendershow.net.

3797
02:06:01,510 --> 02:06:02,610
What's your name?

3798
02:06:02,750 --> 02:06:06,390
It should be on the MFA and we'll

3799
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:07,350
send one out to you.

3800
02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:07,450
Yes.

3801
02:06:07,690 --> 02:06:08,210
Congratulations.

3802
02:06:08,770 --> 02:06:09,290
Congratulations.

3803
02:06:09,710 --> 02:06:11,710
Yeah, I was actually, I was stunned by

3804
02:06:11,710 --> 02:06:11,850
that.

3805
02:06:11,990 --> 02:06:12,170
That's great.

3806
02:06:12,250 --> 02:06:13,110
Now it's fantastic.

3807
02:06:13,110 --> 02:06:13,870
That's good.

3808
02:06:14,710 --> 02:06:16,490
I mean, the guy hates the show.

3809
02:06:16,650 --> 02:06:17,450
It's amazing.

3810
02:06:17,550 --> 02:06:19,570
And we're just showering love on him.

3811
02:06:19,970 --> 02:06:20,210
Poor.

3812
02:06:20,450 --> 02:06:23,050
You know, some people, they just soak it

3813
02:06:23,050 --> 02:06:24,630
up and they give you the finger.

3814
02:06:24,750 --> 02:06:26,430
It's just the way it is with some

3815
02:06:26,430 --> 02:06:26,650
people.

3816
02:06:26,770 --> 02:06:28,610
You give your enemy to drink and to

3817
02:06:28,610 --> 02:06:30,470
eat, it's like pouring hot coals on his

3818
02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:30,670
head.

3819
02:06:30,830 --> 02:06:32,870
It just, it will come back to him

3820
02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:33,210
eventually.

3821
02:06:34,270 --> 02:06:34,770
We'll see.

3822
02:06:35,490 --> 02:06:38,050
A reminder, right after today's show, and we

3823
02:06:38,050 --> 02:06:41,010
have plenty of shows still to come, Satellite

3824
02:06:41,010 --> 02:06:43,150
Skirmish will be on live, which is this,

3825
02:06:43,390 --> 02:06:47,950
it's this huge musical cacophony of crazies on

3826
02:06:47,950 --> 02:06:48,390
the stream.

3827
02:06:48,490 --> 02:06:49,730
I think they have video too.

3828
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:52,730
So that'll be right after No Agenda today.

3829
02:06:52,890 --> 02:06:55,490
I definitely wanted to mention that because that

3830
02:06:55,490 --> 02:06:57,370
is No Agenda Nation at its finest.

3831
02:06:58,130 --> 02:06:59,590
That's the kind of stuff that needs to

3832
02:06:59,590 --> 02:07:02,250
be on TikTok, to be quite honest, but

3833
02:07:02,250 --> 02:07:04,550
they won't do it because they don't believe

3834
02:07:04,550 --> 02:07:05,030
in that stuff.

3835
02:07:05,870 --> 02:07:07,290
So that'll be there for you.

3836
02:07:08,370 --> 02:07:10,690
Other ways you can contribute, of course, is

3837
02:07:10,690 --> 02:07:12,230
through sending your treasure.

3838
02:07:13,070 --> 02:07:13,950
Yeah, we love that.

3839
02:07:14,130 --> 02:07:16,170
Not a lot today, but, you know, we're

3840
02:07:16,170 --> 02:07:19,630
hoping that this minor complaint will spur people

3841
02:07:19,630 --> 02:07:21,750
by saying, you know, I get a lot

3842
02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:22,970
of value from those guys.

3843
02:07:23,390 --> 02:07:26,010
I found today's episode valuable.

3844
02:07:26,230 --> 02:07:27,930
And now that I think about it, I

3845
02:07:27,930 --> 02:07:29,810
listen to six hours a week of these

3846
02:07:29,810 --> 02:07:30,070
guys.

3847
02:07:30,370 --> 02:07:32,350
I should probably return some value.

3848
02:07:33,130 --> 02:07:36,210
We, unlike Jason, J-Cal, we thank everybody.

3849
02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:39,230
$50 and above, and we give you the

3850
02:07:39,230 --> 02:07:40,830
amounts and we tell you where they live.

3851
02:07:41,010 --> 02:07:42,530
Well, not their full address, of course, but

3852
02:07:42,530 --> 02:07:43,430
their general area.

3853
02:07:44,130 --> 02:07:46,150
And just like Hollywood, because this is the

3854
02:07:46,150 --> 02:07:48,930
Hollywood portion of the show, the new Hollywood

3855
02:07:48,930 --> 02:07:50,090
is value for value.

3856
02:07:50,250 --> 02:07:51,770
We like to give away credits, and these

3857
02:07:51,770 --> 02:07:53,650
credits do work in the old-fashioned Hollywood,

3858
02:07:53,790 --> 02:07:56,630
whatever's left of it, like imdb.com.

3859
02:07:57,530 --> 02:08:00,770
$200, you are an associate executive producer.

3860
02:08:00,910 --> 02:08:01,770
You get that credit.

3861
02:08:01,870 --> 02:08:03,530
It's good for the rest of your life.

3862
02:08:03,790 --> 02:08:04,930
You know, it's documented.

3863
02:08:05,170 --> 02:08:06,190
It's in the show notes.

3864
02:08:06,210 --> 02:08:06,910
You get the credit.

3865
02:08:07,330 --> 02:08:08,790
Again, you can use it anywhere.

3866
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:10,290
Credits are recognized.

3867
02:08:10,490 --> 02:08:11,690
Put it on your CV, your resume.

3868
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:14,030
Put it in your social media profiles, whatever

3869
02:08:14,030 --> 02:08:16,470
you want, and we'll read your note.

3870
02:08:16,830 --> 02:08:19,730
$300 and above, you become an executive producer,

3871
02:08:19,870 --> 02:08:21,750
which is one step higher, according to us.

3872
02:08:22,510 --> 02:08:25,610
And with that, you get that credit for

3873
02:08:25,610 --> 02:08:27,030
the rest of your life, and we also

3874
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:27,650
read your notes.

3875
02:08:27,730 --> 02:08:30,210
So I will kick it off here with

3876
02:08:30,210 --> 02:08:33,610
Eric Reinhart, right down the road in San

3877
02:08:33,610 --> 02:08:38,670
Antonio, Texas, who sends us $343.75 and

3878
02:08:38,670 --> 02:08:40,010
says, this is it.

3879
02:08:40,250 --> 02:08:43,250
Thank you for all the value you two

3880
02:08:43,250 --> 02:08:43,770
provide.

3881
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:44,970
Stay alert.

3882
02:08:45,190 --> 02:08:45,950
No agendization.

3883
02:08:46,570 --> 02:08:48,930
And he wants some relationship karma, which, oops,

3884
02:08:49,290 --> 02:08:52,590
which, of course, I shall provide for him.

3885
02:08:53,810 --> 02:08:55,350
You've got karma.

3886
02:08:57,210 --> 02:08:58,530
Thank you very much, Eric.

3887
02:08:59,150 --> 02:09:02,730
And then we go from him to, oops,

3888
02:09:02,810 --> 02:09:03,150
hold on.

3889
02:09:03,150 --> 02:09:07,310
I just moved my spreadsheet back, back, back,

3890
02:09:07,310 --> 02:09:10,650
back, back, to Sir Tyler in Alaska.

3891
02:09:11,130 --> 02:09:12,370
Ah, Sir Tyler, Tyler Systems.

3892
02:09:13,190 --> 02:09:15,630
Yeah, and he came with $345.75, actually

3893
02:09:15,630 --> 02:09:18,430
the same amount, which I believe is $333.

3894
02:09:18,570 --> 02:09:21,490
It's probably $333.33. Yeah, $333 plus extra

3895
02:09:21,490 --> 02:09:21,990
money, yeah.

3896
02:09:22,810 --> 02:09:25,590
And he writes, he's the AI guy that

3897
02:09:25,590 --> 02:09:27,730
didn't get his note in last show, but

3898
02:09:27,730 --> 02:09:28,370
here it is.

3899
02:09:28,670 --> 02:09:28,950
Good.

3900
02:09:29,690 --> 02:09:32,150
Tyler Systems is in Anchorage.

3901
02:09:32,150 --> 02:09:37,310
LLC continues to outsource problems and insource solutions

3902
02:09:37,310 --> 02:09:39,330
by supporting the best media deconstruction.

3903
02:09:39,430 --> 02:09:40,970
The planet McLuhan teaches us.

3904
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:42,190
You brought him up.

3905
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:42,650
Yep.

3906
02:09:42,690 --> 02:09:43,950
The medium is the message.

3907
02:09:44,630 --> 02:09:47,310
And what is AI but another medium?

3908
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:49,550
You snooze, you lose, producers.

3909
02:09:49,690 --> 02:09:52,010
Keep engaging with me, and more importantly, with

3910
02:09:52,010 --> 02:09:54,530
the technology, and you will find yourself understanding

3911
02:09:54,530 --> 02:09:55,370
it better than most.

3912
02:09:55,770 --> 02:09:56,630
It's very doable.

3913
02:09:56,750 --> 02:09:58,810
My Boots on the Ground experience, also informed

3914
02:09:58,810 --> 02:10:01,650
by formal academic research, shows that the best

3915
02:10:01,650 --> 02:10:03,950
managers are actually the most effective users of

3916
02:10:03,950 --> 02:10:04,550
chatbots.

3917
02:10:05,530 --> 02:10:06,130
Really?

3918
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:08,970
This is specific to chatbots, but a talented

3919
02:10:08,970 --> 02:10:11,210
middle manager, a rare gem, is a better

3920
02:10:11,210 --> 02:10:13,790
GPT user out of the box than a

3921
02:10:13,790 --> 02:10:17,090
skilled programmer who sucks at communicating, much less

3922
02:10:17,090 --> 02:10:17,530
rare.

3923
02:10:18,370 --> 02:10:22,650
I watch productive public sector managers automate their

3924
02:10:22,650 --> 02:10:25,270
jobs with chat GPT in a few hours.

3925
02:10:26,090 --> 02:10:27,870
He's creating a monster here.

3926
02:10:27,970 --> 02:10:28,170
Yeah.

3927
02:10:28,170 --> 02:10:28,950
In a few hours.

3928
02:10:29,110 --> 02:10:32,050
And also watch incredibly talented programmers refuse to

3929
02:10:32,050 --> 02:10:35,830
even touch it because they just fancy autocomplete.

3930
02:10:35,910 --> 02:10:38,190
They say it's just fancy autocomplete.

3931
02:10:38,630 --> 02:10:39,750
That would be you, Adam.

3932
02:10:39,970 --> 02:10:40,330
Yes.

3933
02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:41,330
Who is...

3934
02:10:41,330 --> 02:10:42,330
He didn't write that.

3935
02:10:42,350 --> 02:10:42,670
I did.

3936
02:10:43,130 --> 02:10:45,370
Who is better positioned for our future?

3937
02:10:45,890 --> 02:10:49,410
Your motivated millennial, Sir Tyler in Alaska.

3938
02:10:50,670 --> 02:10:53,270
Slow to respond, but standing by at Tyler

3939
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:55,550
at tylersystems.com.

3940
02:10:55,590 --> 02:10:56,110
There you go.

3941
02:10:56,110 --> 02:10:58,890
He responds to all inquiries in time.

3942
02:10:59,890 --> 02:11:01,050
Thank you, Sir Tyler.

3943
02:11:01,190 --> 02:11:02,650
Let us know how the business is going.

3944
02:11:03,790 --> 02:11:06,570
Sir Scott of Diablo is in Clayton, California,

3945
02:11:06,750 --> 02:11:09,650
333.33, and he sent the fees.

3946
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:10,490
We appreciate that.

3947
02:11:10,590 --> 02:11:12,250
Happy New Year, gents, from Sir Scott of

3948
02:11:12,250 --> 02:11:12,590
Diablo.

3949
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:14,530
Was overdue on patronage.

3950
02:11:14,650 --> 02:11:18,050
No Agenda remains my number one podcast and

3951
02:11:18,050 --> 02:11:20,810
regular priority to get your respective takes on

3952
02:11:20,810 --> 02:11:22,610
the latest hootenannies in this world.

3953
02:11:23,050 --> 02:11:25,370
Wishing you well from Clayton, California.

3954
02:11:25,370 --> 02:11:25,990
See?

3955
02:11:26,210 --> 02:11:27,010
This is what it is.

3956
02:11:27,190 --> 02:11:29,350
He recognizes the value he receives.

3957
02:11:29,570 --> 02:11:30,410
He returned it.

3958
02:11:30,630 --> 02:11:31,350
Appreciate it.

3959
02:11:31,550 --> 02:11:32,110
Thank you, brother.

3960
02:11:33,190 --> 02:11:33,650
Clayton.

3961
02:11:34,050 --> 02:11:34,350
Clayton.

3962
02:11:35,110 --> 02:11:36,190
Shout out to Clayton.

3963
02:11:37,490 --> 02:11:39,210
Sir Kevin, which is a nice little town

3964
02:11:39,210 --> 02:11:42,410
in eastern Contra Costa County.

3965
02:11:42,910 --> 02:11:46,930
Sir Kevin deals in Huntersville, North Carolina, 333

3966
02:11:46,930 --> 02:11:49,670
.33. On the last show, he writes, during

3967
02:11:49,670 --> 02:11:53,870
the donation segment, you discussed backup solutions.

3968
02:11:53,870 --> 02:11:55,990
I usually visit my parents once a week,

3969
02:11:56,350 --> 02:11:58,230
and my dad, by the way, this is,

3970
02:11:58,990 --> 02:12:03,150
yes, this is Sir Kevin, and my dad,

3971
02:12:03,230 --> 02:12:06,050
photographer, and I, amateur photographer and computer geek,

3972
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:09,410
have a longstanding agreement to exchange external hard

3973
02:12:09,410 --> 02:12:10,790
drives whenever we need to.

3974
02:12:11,190 --> 02:12:12,810
Each of us has one hard drive at

3975
02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:14,250
home and another at the other's house.

3976
02:12:14,410 --> 02:12:14,630
There you go.

3977
02:12:14,630 --> 02:12:17,470
The initial expense of another external hard drive

3978
02:12:17,470 --> 02:12:18,650
is a bit of a hurdle.

3979
02:12:18,750 --> 02:12:20,250
No, not in today's world.

3980
02:12:20,250 --> 02:12:23,170
You can get an 18 terabyte drive for

3981
02:12:23,170 --> 02:12:24,950
next to nothing nowadays, 18.

3982
02:12:25,970 --> 02:12:27,750
But if things go sideways, one of us

3983
02:12:27,750 --> 02:12:29,850
can always restore the other's files.

3984
02:12:30,330 --> 02:12:32,850
Every show we talk about how connection is

3985
02:12:32,850 --> 02:12:33,330
protection.

3986
02:12:33,530 --> 02:12:35,630
It's a very simple way for producers to

3987
02:12:35,630 --> 02:12:38,010
protect themselves without relying on the cloud.

3988
02:12:39,230 --> 02:12:41,570
Buy a couple of external hard drives and

3989
02:12:41,570 --> 02:12:43,450
don't buy them at the same time.

3990
02:12:43,950 --> 02:12:44,250
Yes.

3991
02:12:44,990 --> 02:12:46,330
It's a Dvorak tip.

3992
02:12:48,010 --> 02:12:50,670
Find another, because they'll be in the same

3993
02:12:50,670 --> 02:12:52,270
batch and if one goes, they both go.

3994
02:12:52,370 --> 02:12:52,670
That's right.

3995
02:12:53,770 --> 02:12:55,990
Find another producer at your local meetup and

3996
02:12:55,990 --> 02:12:58,050
swap hard drives whenever you get together.

3997
02:12:58,390 --> 02:13:00,110
Thank you for your courage, Kevin Dills.

3998
02:13:00,390 --> 02:13:01,970
A backup and a backup to that backup

3999
02:13:01,970 --> 02:13:03,210
and a backup to the backup to the

4000
02:13:03,210 --> 02:13:03,430
backup.

4001
02:13:03,790 --> 02:13:05,670
He didn't ask for that, but I couldn't

4002
02:13:05,670 --> 02:13:06,030
resist.

4003
02:13:06,850 --> 02:13:10,710
Anonymous comes in with 33333 and sends in

4004
02:13:10,710 --> 02:13:13,290
a typewritten note, says, ITM, Adam and John,

4005
02:13:13,370 --> 02:13:14,670
my wife and I were listening to show

4006
02:13:14,670 --> 02:13:15,870
1578.

4007
02:13:15,870 --> 02:13:17,510
Whoa, that's...

4008
02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:19,590
We haven't gotten there yet, have we?

4009
02:13:19,670 --> 02:13:20,510
Oh yeah, that's an old show.

4010
02:13:20,530 --> 02:13:21,590
No, 1578.

4011
02:13:22,430 --> 02:13:23,790
When we heard you read the note from

4012
02:13:23,790 --> 02:13:27,130
Pete, the podcast shoplifter, at which point my

4013
02:13:27,130 --> 02:13:30,490
wife started calling me a shoplifter douchebag.

4014
02:13:31,170 --> 02:13:31,690
Whoa.

4015
02:13:32,630 --> 02:13:35,390
But I wasn't moved until show 1691 when

4016
02:13:35,390 --> 02:13:37,810
John mentioned that Mimi said the exit strategy

4017
02:13:37,810 --> 02:13:40,570
talk was having a dampening effect on donations.

4018
02:13:41,010 --> 02:13:43,330
That convinced me that you boys won't be

4019
02:13:43,330 --> 02:13:44,650
esconding to Brazil.

4020
02:13:44,650 --> 02:13:48,390
With this donation, 33333, please admit me to

4021
02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:49,530
your truth cabal.

4022
02:13:50,010 --> 02:13:52,790
Please play Yak Karma for your excellent producers

4023
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:55,150
as their COVID reports were invaluable.

4024
02:13:55,750 --> 02:13:58,270
Also, please play Fletcher's Leo Yell.

4025
02:13:59,250 --> 02:13:59,930
Really?

4026
02:14:00,470 --> 02:14:03,250
Play Fletcher's Leo Yell as Twit is where

4027
02:14:03,250 --> 02:14:05,110
I first heard of the best podcast in

4028
02:14:05,110 --> 02:14:05,510
the universe.

4029
02:14:06,010 --> 02:14:07,090
Thank you for your courage.

4030
02:14:07,990 --> 02:14:10,030
Anonymous, dude named Ben.

4031
02:14:10,490 --> 02:14:11,170
Leo!

4032
02:14:11,170 --> 02:14:11,310
Leo!

4033
02:14:13,570 --> 02:14:17,930
You've got karma.

4034
02:14:18,070 --> 02:14:18,750
It's been a while.

4035
02:14:19,730 --> 02:14:20,430
There we go.

4036
02:14:20,530 --> 02:14:21,850
Dame Astrid and Sir Mark.

4037
02:14:22,390 --> 02:14:23,350
There they are.

4038
02:14:23,930 --> 02:14:25,470
There they are in Tokyo.

4039
02:14:26,910 --> 02:14:29,050
Dear John and Adam, or dear John, dear

4040
02:14:29,050 --> 02:14:30,130
Adam, you're fabulous.

4041
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:34,090
And life is marvelous listening to No Agenda.

4042
02:14:35,070 --> 02:14:36,870
Wish we were here in Tokyo for our

4043
02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:39,750
no cheesecake sheneka.

4044
02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:40,470
Sheneka.

4045
02:14:40,650 --> 02:14:41,210
Sheneka.

4046
02:14:41,670 --> 02:14:42,090
Sheneka.

4047
02:14:42,090 --> 02:14:42,410
Sheneka.

4048
02:14:42,590 --> 02:14:43,150
Sheneka.

4049
02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:45,910
Hai!

4050
02:14:46,210 --> 02:14:46,610
Sheneka!

4051
02:14:48,230 --> 02:14:53,470
AKA New Year meetup on January 25th, Saturday.

4052
02:14:53,970 --> 02:14:56,790
If you're in Tokyo, you need to go

4053
02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:57,510
to their meetups.

4054
02:14:57,730 --> 02:14:59,550
Those guys know how to do meetups and

4055
02:14:59,550 --> 02:15:00,490
they're great people.

4056
02:15:00,650 --> 02:15:01,270
We love them.

4057
02:15:01,350 --> 02:15:02,590
They've been around for a long time.

4058
02:15:02,950 --> 02:15:04,110
They're no slouches, people.

4059
02:15:04,910 --> 02:15:10,770
They're no slouches and they have superior taste.

4060
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:11,610
They do.

4061
02:15:11,710 --> 02:15:14,970
So everything is tasteful and unusual.

4062
02:15:15,190 --> 02:15:16,350
And they can probably get you out of

4063
02:15:16,350 --> 02:15:16,590
jail.

4064
02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:19,590
Much love to you both, she writes.

4065
02:15:20,190 --> 02:15:22,190
And then she signs off with Dame Astrid

4066
02:15:22,190 --> 02:15:23,110
plus Sir Mark.

4067
02:15:23,450 --> 02:15:24,050
Very nice.

4068
02:15:25,930 --> 02:15:29,450
Sir Face Tension, I don't know where he's

4069
02:15:29,450 --> 02:15:32,010
from, but he says, happy second, third day

4070
02:15:32,010 --> 02:15:32,430
of the week.

4071
02:15:32,810 --> 02:15:34,470
This donation is a shout out to the

4072
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:37,470
South Central Florida meetup crew formally organized by

4073
02:15:37,470 --> 02:15:38,370
the Reiki Princess.

4074
02:15:38,970 --> 02:15:39,830
Yeah, something happened.

4075
02:15:40,750 --> 02:15:43,270
Something has happened with the South Central Florida

4076
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:43,810
meetups.

4077
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:46,490
The group has blown up, imploded.

4078
02:15:46,730 --> 02:15:49,250
I think it was after the axe throwing.

4079
02:15:49,530 --> 02:15:50,050
I'm not sure.

4080
02:15:50,650 --> 02:15:51,750
This is the axe throwing group.

4081
02:15:51,950 --> 02:15:52,130
Yes.

4082
02:15:53,770 --> 02:15:56,450
So Sir Face Tension wants to thank the

4083
02:15:56,450 --> 02:15:58,530
Reiki Princess for her courage in organizing and

4084
02:15:58,530 --> 02:16:00,630
producing so many great meetups and memories and

4085
02:16:00,630 --> 02:16:02,590
wish her much love, luck and karma.

4086
02:16:03,410 --> 02:16:04,750
Gosh, I really...

4087
02:16:04,750 --> 02:16:06,550
Reiki Princess, would you just email me?

4088
02:16:06,610 --> 02:16:08,370
Somebody send him a note.

4089
02:16:08,630 --> 02:16:10,030
I just want to know what's going on,

4090
02:16:10,070 --> 02:16:10,650
if you're okay.

4091
02:16:11,770 --> 02:16:13,630
Because, you know, I've had nice conversations with

4092
02:16:13,630 --> 02:16:15,830
her and all of a sudden, boom, it's

4093
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:16,110
gone.

4094
02:16:16,750 --> 02:16:18,410
I don't know if she's overboard or something's

4095
02:16:18,410 --> 02:16:18,830
going on.

4096
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:20,870
I'd just love to hear from you.

4097
02:16:21,330 --> 02:16:24,170
To help our area members regroup, please email

4098
02:16:24,170 --> 02:16:27,610
me your contact information to noagendanation at hotmail

4099
02:16:27,610 --> 02:16:28,190
.com.

4100
02:16:28,270 --> 02:16:30,590
That's noagendanation at hotmail.com.

4101
02:16:30,930 --> 02:16:33,090
Whether you're a No Agenda newcomer or a

4102
02:16:33,090 --> 02:16:34,910
meetup veteran, I invite all of you to

4103
02:16:34,910 --> 02:16:37,570
introduce yourselves via email while we rebuild our

4104
02:16:37,570 --> 02:16:38,670
WhatsApp network.

4105
02:16:39,070 --> 02:16:41,610
That's noagendanation at hotmail.com.

4106
02:16:41,990 --> 02:16:44,270
Onward, he says, and request the Sunday morning

4107
02:16:44,270 --> 02:16:46,730
service followed by the JCD Spooky Donate.

4108
02:16:46,750 --> 02:16:50,730
My children, it's a Sunday morning service.

4109
02:16:51,170 --> 02:16:52,410
Tell us it's a No Agenda.

4110
02:16:53,070 --> 02:16:54,610
We're going to get some Adam Curry.

4111
02:16:55,010 --> 02:16:57,170
We're going to get a little Josh.

4112
02:16:57,389 --> 02:16:58,850
We're going to roll around.

4113
02:16:58,990 --> 02:16:59,830
Lord, help us out.

4114
02:17:02,250 --> 02:17:02,730
Donate.

4115
02:17:04,410 --> 02:17:04,889
Donate.

4116
02:17:06,090 --> 02:17:06,570
Donate.

4117
02:17:09,910 --> 02:17:13,090
I have a feeling that the Florida Cell

4118
02:17:13,090 --> 02:17:14,709
got captured.

4119
02:17:15,450 --> 02:17:17,110
This is a very bad development.

4120
02:17:17,430 --> 02:17:19,350
They were one of the, they did great.

4121
02:17:19,350 --> 02:17:20,590
They were doing good work.

4122
02:17:20,670 --> 02:17:22,490
Great promos and everything, yeah.

4123
02:17:23,530 --> 02:17:24,910
Yeah, it'll be explained.

4124
02:17:25,150 --> 02:17:26,090
It happens, it happens.

4125
02:17:26,270 --> 02:17:28,129
And we wrap it up with Linda Lupak

4126
02:17:28,129 --> 02:17:30,790
and her buddy in Lakewood, Colorado, of $200,

4127
02:17:31,170 --> 02:17:33,870
and she wants some jobs, Carmen says, for

4128
02:17:33,870 --> 02:17:37,129
a resume that gets results, visit ImageMakersInc.com.

4129
02:17:37,910 --> 02:17:40,330
That's ImageMakersInc with a K, your go-to

4130
02:17:40,330 --> 02:17:42,870
for all your executive resume and job search

4131
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:43,490
needs.

4132
02:17:43,570 --> 02:17:45,370
And work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs

4133
02:17:45,370 --> 02:17:46,629
and writer of resumes.

4134
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:50,430
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4135
02:17:50,530 --> 02:17:52,090
Let's vote for jobs.

4136
02:17:52,510 --> 02:17:57,110
And that concludes our list of executive and

4137
02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:58,290
associate executive producers.

4138
02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:59,469
Thank you all very much.

4139
02:17:59,590 --> 02:18:01,230
We will be thanking the rest of our

4140
02:18:01,230 --> 02:18:03,670
donors, $50 and above, as we always do

4141
02:18:03,670 --> 02:18:05,790
because we love them so much and we

4142
02:18:05,790 --> 02:18:06,969
appreciate them so much.

4143
02:18:07,850 --> 02:18:10,650
And remember, you can always go to noagendadonations

4144
02:18:10,650 --> 02:18:11,090
.com.

4145
02:18:11,170 --> 02:18:12,889
That's noagendadonations.com.

4146
02:18:13,370 --> 02:18:15,629
So that, did you fix Dvorak.org slash

4147
02:18:15,629 --> 02:18:16,629
an A like you said you would?

4148
02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:17,730
I'm working on it.

4149
02:18:18,110 --> 02:18:21,090
Dvorak, noagendadonations.com.

4150
02:18:21,209 --> 02:18:22,730
You can set up a recurring donation.

4151
02:18:22,889 --> 02:18:24,830
Those are very important, particularly on slower days

4152
02:18:24,830 --> 02:18:25,350
like this.

4153
02:18:25,570 --> 02:18:27,510
Any amount, any frequency, it's all up to

4154
02:18:27,510 --> 02:18:27,629
you.

4155
02:18:27,690 --> 02:18:29,730
And once again, thank you to our executive

4156
02:18:29,730 --> 02:18:32,270
and associate executive producers for this episode.

4157
02:18:32,350 --> 02:18:33,650
Our formula is this.

4158
02:18:35,889 --> 02:18:37,010
We hit people in the mouth.

4159
02:18:42,139 --> 02:18:42,520
Order.

4160
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:44,520
Order.

4161
02:18:45,379 --> 02:18:46,280
Yee-haw!

4162
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:49,100
Shut up, Steve.

4163
02:18:52,299 --> 02:18:54,219
I've got a little ask Adam here.

4164
02:18:54,440 --> 02:18:56,280
Oh, I wasn't expecting that.

4165
02:18:56,420 --> 02:18:56,920
Hold on a second.

4166
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:58,600
Let me get a, ask Adam.

4167
02:18:58,600 --> 02:18:59,559
Don't play it.

4168
02:18:59,559 --> 02:19:01,740
It's because it's answered in the, it's just

4169
02:19:01,740 --> 02:19:02,600
that one clip.

4170
02:19:02,900 --> 02:19:03,020
Hold on.

4171
02:19:03,059 --> 02:19:04,520
Ask Adam.

4172
02:19:05,219 --> 02:19:08,440
Okay, so, you have the answer, or I'm

4173
02:19:08,440 --> 02:19:09,580
not playing the clip, or what am I

4174
02:19:09,580 --> 02:19:09,680
doing?

4175
02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:11,020
No, the clip has the answer.

4176
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:13,020
How can that be an ask Adam?

4177
02:19:13,020 --> 02:19:14,240
I'm going to ask the question.

4178
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:15,219
I'm going to ask Adam.

4179
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:17,160
I am going to ask Adam.

4180
02:19:17,240 --> 02:19:18,860
Okay, ask Adam, go!

4181
02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:22,559
What are you, Mark Levin?

4182
02:19:23,459 --> 02:19:23,920
Yes.

4183
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:30,840
So, Mr. Producer, so, what, if you had

4184
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:33,799
a Stradivarius violin, Yes.

4185
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:35,600
which would be nice to own.

4186
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:37,180
Yeah, I wouldn't be doing this show.

4187
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:39,639
What do you think it's worth?

4188
02:19:39,900 --> 02:19:41,780
A Stradivarius violin?

4189
02:19:42,500 --> 02:19:43,700
Yeah, a Stradivarius.

4190
02:19:43,860 --> 02:19:43,960
Yeah.

4191
02:19:45,100 --> 02:19:45,580
Wow.

4192
02:19:46,260 --> 02:19:48,540
Now, I only, I haven't heard the word

4193
02:19:48,540 --> 02:19:51,560
Stradivarius for many, many years, and I think

4194
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:53,220
back in the day they were probably going

4195
02:19:53,220 --> 02:19:55,880
for about 12 million, between 8 and 12

4196
02:19:55,880 --> 02:19:56,280
million.

4197
02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:59,980
I would say, taking money printing into effect,

4198
02:20:00,260 --> 02:20:02,940
the debasing of the U.S. dollar, I'm

4199
02:20:02,940 --> 02:20:05,500
going to say 47 million dollars.

4200
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:07,560
Wow.

4201
02:20:07,700 --> 02:20:09,100
I wouldn't mind owning one of those.

4202
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:09,820
Here we go.

4203
02:20:09,940 --> 02:20:12,540
And a violin made by Italian craftsman Antonio

4204
02:20:12,540 --> 02:20:15,200
Stradivari is estimated to fetch a record price

4205
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:17,200
of up to 18 million dollars when it

4206
02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:18,540
goes to auction next month.

4207
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:22,100
The Joachim Ma Stradivarius was crafted in 1714

4208
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:25,140
during what's considered the violin maker's golden period.

4209
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:27,500
Its name comes from two of its prior

4210
02:20:27,500 --> 02:20:32,120
owners, Joseph Joachim and Sihon Ma, both accomplished

4211
02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:32,920
violinists.

4212
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:35,580
Ma gifted the violin to the New England

4213
02:20:35,580 --> 02:20:37,740
Conservatory in Boston where he had studied.

4214
02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:40,260
Proceeds of the sale will go towards student

4215
02:20:40,260 --> 02:20:40,760
scholarship.

4216
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:41,220
Okay.

4217
02:20:41,540 --> 02:20:43,660
Now, this is not a fair ask, Adam,

4218
02:20:43,720 --> 02:20:46,220
because that is what is expected to fetch.

4219
02:20:46,520 --> 02:20:48,560
I want you to track this auction and

4220
02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:50,320
let's see what it actually goes for.

4221
02:20:51,080 --> 02:20:52,020
Well, check it out.

4222
02:20:52,140 --> 02:20:52,940
Sure, I will.

4223
02:20:52,940 --> 02:20:54,520
I have a feeling it's going to go

4224
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:56,540
closer to that number that I said.

4225
02:20:57,740 --> 02:20:59,260
Well, I think it's interesting that the guy

4226
02:20:59,260 --> 02:21:01,000
had the violin and he just gives it

4227
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:01,340
away.

4228
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:03,740
Yeah, well, Yo-Yo Ma is loaded.

4229
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:05,240
He left a cello in a cab.

4230
02:21:05,340 --> 02:21:06,120
Be like, eh, whatever.

4231
02:21:07,100 --> 02:21:07,740
Remember that?

4232
02:21:07,900 --> 02:21:09,300
Remember he left the cello in the cab?

4233
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:11,660
How do you leave a cello in a

4234
02:21:11,660 --> 02:21:12,080
cab?

4235
02:21:12,180 --> 02:21:13,280
I bet you we still have that clip.

4236
02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:14,220
You have to be drunk.

4237
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:14,800
Cello.

4238
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:15,700
Let me see.

4239
02:21:15,880 --> 02:21:16,240
Cello.

4240
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,220
Wow, we've lost a lot of good clips.

4241
02:21:19,500 --> 02:21:20,180
Yo-Yo Ma.

4242
02:21:20,180 --> 02:21:21,840
You mean we lost good clips?

4243
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:24,740
Yeah, we lost some in the big drop

4244
02:21:24,740 --> 02:21:26,180
.io fiasco.

4245
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:29,760
What was the drop.io fiasco?

4246
02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:31,160
Gosh, you don't remember anything.

4247
02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:34,420
I remember a lot, but I don't remember

4248
02:21:34,420 --> 02:21:35,940
the drop.io fiasco.

4249
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,460
This is what set me on a rampage

4250
02:21:39,460 --> 02:21:42,320
of never trusting Silicon Valley or cloud or

4251
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:43,220
anything like that.

4252
02:21:43,500 --> 02:21:46,000
We were using a system called drop.io

4253
02:21:46,460 --> 02:21:47,780
and it was kind of cool because you

4254
02:21:47,780 --> 02:21:49,940
had a webpage and you could just type

4255
02:21:49,940 --> 02:21:51,500
in there and post stuff and then you

4256
02:21:51,500 --> 02:21:54,540
could drag and drop any file and it

4257
02:21:54,540 --> 02:21:55,860
would put it right there.

4258
02:21:55,960 --> 02:21:57,980
It was almost like a, you know, it

4259
02:21:57,980 --> 02:21:58,800
was like a whizzy-whizzy.

4260
02:21:58,820 --> 02:21:59,480
You didn't keep backups?

4261
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:01,400
To the backup of the backup of the

4262
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:01,620
backup?

4263
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:04,120
No, I was young, inexperienced, and I trusted

4264
02:22:04,120 --> 02:22:04,740
them.

4265
02:22:05,200 --> 02:22:07,000
Oh, that was your first mistake.

4266
02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:08,200
And I trusted them.

4267
02:22:08,300 --> 02:22:10,220
Well, I still have all my original clips,

4268
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:12,880
so you just lost your clips.

4269
02:22:13,780 --> 02:22:14,460
Oh, okay.

4270
02:22:15,100 --> 02:22:17,660
Well, you should send me your original clips

4271
02:22:18,200 --> 02:22:20,780
because I don't, I do not have anything.

4272
02:22:20,780 --> 02:22:21,340
Let me see.

4273
02:22:21,520 --> 02:22:23,160
I have back to...

4274
02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:24,780
What's the first show that we have stuff

4275
02:22:24,780 --> 02:22:25,080
from?

4276
02:22:25,880 --> 02:22:28,080
You're going to cry when you hear it.

4277
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:29,600
2014.

4278
02:22:32,380 --> 02:22:33,540
What was show number?

4279
02:22:34,140 --> 02:22:34,940
Show number.

4280
02:22:39,450 --> 02:22:40,570
Show number...

4281
02:22:44,800 --> 02:22:45,360
579.

4282
02:22:45,960 --> 02:22:47,900
Oh, that's not too bad.

4283
02:22:48,020 --> 02:22:52,000
Now, luckily, luckily, we have bingit.io. We

4284
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:54,760
have all of the actual shows and through,

4285
02:22:54,860 --> 02:22:58,240
thank you, Sir Deanonymous, through bingit.io, we

4286
02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:01,140
can find everything and we can at least

4287
02:23:01,140 --> 02:23:02,780
clip those if we want to.

4288
02:23:03,400 --> 02:23:06,500
And this is, in fact, exactly what Sir

4289
02:23:06,500 --> 02:23:07,520
Comfrence did.

4290
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:09,880
And he was...

4291
02:23:10,460 --> 02:23:12,440
It's kind of sad.

4292
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:15,020
We remember everything.

4293
02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:16,620
Our memories are so great, right?

4294
02:23:18,180 --> 02:23:24,120
On episode 371, which was January 5th, 2012,

4295
02:23:25,220 --> 02:23:28,480
we actually discussed, as he can recall, and

4296
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:29,840
he got me the clip, for the first

4297
02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:32,920
time, a phenomenon which we have just been

4298
02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:34,900
discussing as if it's something new.

4299
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:37,360
How many times has this happened to us?

4300
02:23:37,820 --> 02:23:38,320
Lots.

4301
02:23:38,740 --> 02:23:41,000
Yeah, jingles are a big part.

4302
02:23:42,460 --> 02:23:42,960
Santorum...

4303
02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:47,380
I caught two things where he's doing doublespeak

4304
02:23:47,380 --> 02:23:48,480
and I want you to listen to him

4305
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:49,760
and try to tell me exactly what he

4306
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:51,080
said because you won't be able to.

4307
02:23:51,820 --> 02:23:54,800
But earlier, he was on Meet the Press.

4308
02:23:55,320 --> 02:23:59,920
Earlier, I caught this very weird style of

4309
02:23:59,920 --> 02:24:03,520
chatter that incorporates, I've never seen this before

4310
02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:05,020
and I've tried to do it myself and

4311
02:24:05,020 --> 02:24:06,220
I can't do it.

4312
02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:07,200
Do you know what this is about?

4313
02:24:07,960 --> 02:24:08,180
No.

4314
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:11,080
By the way, you sound so energetic as

4315
02:24:11,080 --> 02:24:11,840
a young John C.

4316
02:24:11,900 --> 02:24:12,060
DeVos.

4317
02:24:12,340 --> 02:24:15,160
Well, I also sound like I've got something

4318
02:24:15,160 --> 02:24:16,340
wrong with me.

4319
02:24:16,380 --> 02:24:16,900
You're in a bucket.

4320
02:24:17,160 --> 02:24:18,480
There's something wrong with me.

4321
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:21,900
Oh, this is something you've just recognized.

4322
02:24:22,180 --> 02:24:24,600
You know where people, you run into people

4323
02:24:24,600 --> 02:24:26,980
that are always making assumptions about the way

4324
02:24:26,980 --> 02:24:29,580
you think so they'll say something.

4325
02:24:29,860 --> 02:24:30,140
Why?

4326
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:34,080
Because otherwise they drop the word why into

4327
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:35,340
the sentence.

4328
02:24:35,660 --> 02:24:37,460
Yeah, well, it's very much like in Silicon

4329
02:24:37,460 --> 02:24:38,380
Valley people say...

4330
02:24:38,380 --> 02:24:40,260
So you basically stole my bit.

4331
02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:43,480
I guess, I guess.

4332
02:24:43,640 --> 02:24:45,300
You didn't reclaim it.

4333
02:24:45,380 --> 02:24:46,340
Let's just listen to a little more.

4334
02:24:46,360 --> 02:24:48,000
Yeah, well, if I didn't reclaim it then

4335
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:48,800
it's not stolen.

4336
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:49,260
You're right.

4337
02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:50,040
Open source!

4338
02:24:50,260 --> 02:24:50,780
Open source!

4339
02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:53,280
Which is basically making you affirm what he

4340
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:53,860
just said.

4341
02:24:54,160 --> 02:24:54,600
Exactly.

4342
02:24:54,900 --> 02:24:55,040
Right?

4343
02:24:56,240 --> 02:24:57,200
Or look.

4344
02:24:57,540 --> 02:24:57,940
Why?

4345
02:24:57,940 --> 02:24:58,760
That's another one.

4346
02:24:58,800 --> 02:24:59,120
Why?

4347
02:24:59,220 --> 02:24:59,700
Look.

4348
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:00,720
Exactly.

4349
02:25:00,900 --> 02:25:01,020
Look.

4350
02:25:01,300 --> 02:25:01,780
Why?

4351
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:02,080
Yeah.

4352
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:05,120
So they'll say...

4353
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:07,040
It always makes the assumption...

4354
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:08,320
This was Rick Santorum.

4355
02:25:08,420 --> 02:25:09,400
So this is 2012.

4356
02:25:09,660 --> 02:25:12,680
Was he running as a Republican candidate at

4357
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:13,040
the time?

4358
02:25:13,160 --> 02:25:14,000
2012 election?

4359
02:25:14,060 --> 02:25:14,820
I think so, right?

4360
02:25:15,860 --> 02:25:16,340
Probably.

4361
02:25:16,340 --> 02:25:16,520
Probably.

4362
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:18,280
I mean, he was a...

4363
02:25:18,280 --> 02:25:20,060
He was a douchebag.

4364
02:25:20,440 --> 02:25:22,360
Remember we had Santorum.com?

4365
02:25:24,540 --> 02:25:25,020
Yeah.

4366
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:26,200
Well, yeah.

4367
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:27,740
I vaguely remember that.

4368
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:29,540
Which turned out to be something really rude.

4369
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:33,860
I always find it offensive when I hear

4370
02:25:33,860 --> 02:25:36,880
the word why asked like that because it's

4371
02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:39,140
making an assumption that I'm actually asking a

4372
02:25:39,140 --> 02:25:39,560
question.

4373
02:25:40,620 --> 02:25:42,720
Your lead-ins were way longer back then.

4374
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:43,600
Want to know why?

4375
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:45,300
Why don't you just tell me?

4376
02:25:45,340 --> 02:25:46,680
You don't have to ask me why.

4377
02:25:46,860 --> 02:25:47,200
It works.

4378
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:50,220
Now, Santorum, you have to listen very carefully

4379
02:25:50,220 --> 02:25:51,480
to this Santorum neuro-linguistic...

4380
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:53,060
God, my lead-in is taking forever.

4381
02:25:53,260 --> 02:25:53,660
I know!

4382
02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:55,340
Get off the air, slouch!

4383
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:58,560
Why in the stream in such a way

4384
02:25:58,560 --> 02:25:59,360
that it doesn't even...

4385
02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:00,140
It's not even a question.

4386
02:26:00,380 --> 02:26:01,160
It's just the word...

4387
02:26:01,160 --> 02:26:02,840
I think you thought I was really dumb,

4388
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:03,920
so you'd be like...

4389
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:04,380
Tighten it up, dude.

4390
02:26:04,380 --> 02:26:06,080
You're over-explaining it to me.

4391
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:08,320
You're really dumb.

4392
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:09,560
This stupid VJ.

4393
02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:10,260
He won't understand.

4394
02:26:11,220 --> 02:26:12,620
I don't think that was it.

4395
02:26:12,620 --> 02:26:13,300
Yeah, I think so.

4396
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:16,900
And I would challenge you, without writing something

4397
02:26:16,900 --> 02:26:19,420
down, to actually do what you're about to

4398
02:26:19,420 --> 02:26:19,620
hear.

4399
02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:23,060
You'll hear the word why twice, and it's

4400
02:26:23,060 --> 02:26:24,920
just in the flow, and I found it

4401
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:26,280
extremely fascinating.

4402
02:26:26,380 --> 02:26:27,340
...the Republican Party.

4403
02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:29,760
The question is, are those values ones that

4404
02:26:29,760 --> 02:26:32,660
you can trust when they become president of

4405
02:26:32,660 --> 02:26:33,060
the United States?

4406
02:26:33,180 --> 02:26:35,140
Is it someone who you know is going

4407
02:26:35,140 --> 02:26:37,360
to fight not just for certain things, but

4408
02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:39,420
for the entire Republican platform at plank?

4409
02:26:39,480 --> 02:26:39,660
Why?

4410
02:26:39,660 --> 02:26:40,060
Why?

4411
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:41,880
Because those things integrate together.

4412
02:26:42,460 --> 02:26:43,120
All right.

4413
02:26:43,180 --> 02:26:43,540
Anyway.

4414
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:47,680
So, we have identified things over and over

4415
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:47,940
again.

4416
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:49,900
I think we're at the end of our

4417
02:26:49,900 --> 02:26:52,800
runway here on this show when we don't

4418
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:54,700
even remember we've done these things.

4419
02:26:55,380 --> 02:26:55,940
It's...

4420
02:26:55,940 --> 02:26:57,780
It was almost ten years ago.

4421
02:26:58,320 --> 02:26:59,520
Slightly disturbing to me.

4422
02:26:59,620 --> 02:27:00,920
Just slightly disturbing.

4423
02:27:02,260 --> 02:27:02,740
I'm like, wow.

4424
02:27:02,820 --> 02:27:03,380
Well...

4425
02:27:03,380 --> 02:27:04,440
Four more years!

4426
02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:06,820
I think that this has gone on from

4427
02:27:06,820 --> 02:27:10,100
the get-go, and it's a little different.

4428
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:12,580
If we compare it to, like, when Rush

4429
02:27:12,580 --> 02:27:15,780
Limbaugh was at his peak, he would do

4430
02:27:15,780 --> 02:27:19,540
the same thing on one show where he'd

4431
02:27:19,540 --> 02:27:21,960
introduce a concept in hour one, and then

4432
02:27:21,960 --> 02:27:24,020
he'd introduce it again in hour two, the

4433
02:27:24,020 --> 02:27:25,480
same thing as though it was new, and

4434
02:27:25,480 --> 02:27:27,200
then introduce it again in hour three as

4435
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:27,840
though it was new.

4436
02:27:28,400 --> 02:27:30,000
We at least stretch it out.

4437
02:27:30,220 --> 02:27:32,760
The audience is probably completely turned over.

4438
02:27:34,780 --> 02:27:35,260
True.

4439
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:39,940
No one remembers this, but circumference, he's the

4440
02:27:39,940 --> 02:27:40,820
only one that remembers.

4441
02:27:41,460 --> 02:27:43,460
It must have had an impact on him.

4442
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:45,080
Well, he sent me an email and said,

4443
02:27:45,160 --> 02:27:45,960
I knew I'd heard this.

4444
02:27:46,100 --> 02:27:48,440
I went to bingit.io, and I found

4445
02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:48,580
it.

4446
02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:49,400
He was so happy.

4447
02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:50,760
He was so happy.

4448
02:27:51,720 --> 02:27:52,280
I understand.

4449
02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:53,880
It does make you happy.

4450
02:27:54,940 --> 02:27:57,320
All right, let's switch just a little bit.

4451
02:27:57,680 --> 02:27:59,820
Some interesting news from Germany.

4452
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:02,660
As we know, Elon Musk is the hatchet

4453
02:28:02,660 --> 02:28:03,320
man for Trump.

4454
02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:04,520
He's breaking everything.

4455
02:28:04,520 --> 02:28:06,460
He's going like a bull in the China

4456
02:28:06,460 --> 02:28:08,020
shop, running through the EU.

4457
02:28:08,480 --> 02:28:13,020
He wrote an op-ed about the AfD,

4458
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:14,480
alternative for Deutschland.

4459
02:28:14,780 --> 02:28:16,980
The far right, far right, far right party.

4460
02:28:17,140 --> 02:28:18,040
They're probably Nazis.

4461
02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:19,320
Far right, far right.

4462
02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:21,220
And there's news from the far right.

4463
02:28:21,500 --> 02:28:24,580
The far right alternative for Germany, or AfD,

4464
02:28:24,860 --> 02:28:28,480
continues its party convention today after confirming Alice

4465
02:28:28,480 --> 02:28:31,360
Weidel as its first ever candidate for chancellor

4466
02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:32,920
in next month's elections.

4467
02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:35,000
Matthew, what does the fact that they've now

4468
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:37,240
named a chancellor candidate mean?

4469
02:28:37,900 --> 02:28:40,280
This is a very significant milestone for the

4470
02:28:40,280 --> 02:28:41,660
far right party in Germany.

4471
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:45,020
By naming a candidate for chancellor, they're basically

4472
02:28:45,020 --> 02:28:46,420
saying they believe in themselves.

4473
02:28:46,580 --> 02:28:48,120
It's a sign of self-confidence.

4474
02:28:48,860 --> 02:28:51,240
And they've named someone, Alice Weidel, who is

4475
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:53,060
quite an interesting character, Claire.

4476
02:28:53,160 --> 02:28:55,680
This is a person who worked for Goldman

4477
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:56,240
Sachs.

4478
02:28:56,340 --> 02:28:58,240
In an interview with Elon Musk recently, she

4479
02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:01,400
described herself as a libertarian conservative, which didn't

4480
02:29:01,400 --> 02:29:02,800
go down well with everyone in the party.

4481
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,880
She also lives with a Sri Lankan woman.

4482
02:29:06,160 --> 02:29:07,960
Her partner is a Sri Lankan woman.

4483
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:10,720
Or rather, a woman with Sri Lankan roots.

4484
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,720
And they have two children together.

4485
02:29:12,820 --> 02:29:15,800
So not exactly the picture that you would

4486
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:16,820
maybe expect from a far right.

4487
02:29:16,820 --> 02:29:18,440
I mean, far right, far right.

4488
02:29:18,620 --> 02:29:20,580
What, they have a lesbian far right?

4489
02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:23,500
The picture that you would maybe expect from

4490
02:29:23,500 --> 02:29:24,440
a far right party.

4491
02:29:24,900 --> 02:29:26,940
And despite the fact that they've nominated Alice

4492
02:29:26,940 --> 02:29:28,440
Weidel as their leader, there's a kind of

4493
02:29:28,440 --> 02:29:30,140
acknowledgement here in the room that they're not

4494
02:29:30,140 --> 02:29:32,080
going to be anywhere near power because of

4495
02:29:32,080 --> 02:29:32,900
a firewall.

4496
02:29:33,080 --> 02:29:36,340
That's because the older and the other parties

4497
02:29:36,340 --> 02:29:38,780
in Germany have described, basically said that the

4498
02:29:38,780 --> 02:29:41,340
AFD, the far right, are too extreme and

4499
02:29:41,340 --> 02:29:42,160
too anti-democratic.

4500
02:29:42,300 --> 02:29:43,060
They won't work with them.

4501
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,000
However, they see signs of that, basically, that

4502
02:29:46,000 --> 02:29:47,260
firewall chipping away.

4503
02:29:47,660 --> 02:29:50,240
In Austria, recent political events there, that's happened.

4504
02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:52,760
The far right are now in power there.

4505
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:54,080
And so that gives them hope.

4506
02:29:54,180 --> 02:29:55,820
And they're hoping, and their main hope here,

4507
02:29:56,200 --> 02:29:57,800
and the AFD, is not necessarily of the

4508
02:29:57,800 --> 02:29:59,680
elections next month, but of the elections in

4509
02:29:59,680 --> 02:30:01,120
five years' time, in 2029.

4510
02:30:01,820 --> 02:30:02,300
Far right!

4511
02:30:02,920 --> 02:30:04,520
God, that guy needs to lay off the

4512
02:30:04,520 --> 02:30:05,000
coffee.

4513
02:30:05,260 --> 02:30:06,760
This is the problem in Europe.

4514
02:30:06,900 --> 02:30:08,820
They all have a parliamentary system.

4515
02:30:09,340 --> 02:30:10,640
Then this is the same thing that happened

4516
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:13,860
in the Netherlands with Geert Wilders, and France.

4517
02:30:13,980 --> 02:30:15,680
And they just all say, no, no, we're

4518
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:16,640
just all going to work together.

4519
02:30:16,740 --> 02:30:20,300
Hey, you green people, you animal lovers, whatever,

4520
02:30:20,740 --> 02:30:23,880
you nut job party, piercing party, you all

4521
02:30:23,880 --> 02:30:25,540
join with us, we're going to stop them.

4522
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:26,140
Piercing party.

4523
02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:27,100
Oh yeah, they exist.

4524
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:28,300
We're going to stop them.

4525
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:29,420
We're going to stop them.

4526
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:31,760
And so nothing the people want ever gets

4527
02:30:31,760 --> 02:30:32,120
done.

4528
02:30:33,060 --> 02:30:34,040
It's bad.

4529
02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:35,180
It's bad.

4530
02:30:35,940 --> 02:30:37,600
Yeah, well, they're going to take it in

4531
02:30:37,600 --> 02:30:38,140
the shorts.

4532
02:30:38,500 --> 02:30:39,760
The vertical shorts.

4533
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:46,500
Unlike many of the so-called podcasts on

4534
02:30:46,500 --> 02:30:48,880
YouTube, and I just want to set something

4535
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:51,660
straight here, just because a couple of people

4536
02:30:51,660 --> 02:30:54,780
with headphones and microphones are talking on YouTube

4537
02:30:54,780 --> 02:30:56,780
does not a podcast maketh.

4538
02:30:57,860 --> 02:30:59,520
In fact, I would go so far as

4539
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:01,260
to say a podcast is just audio.

4540
02:31:01,780 --> 02:31:02,780
It's just got to be audio.

4541
02:31:02,880 --> 02:31:03,820
It's got to be, you got to get

4542
02:31:03,820 --> 02:31:04,680
it in an app.

4543
02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:07,600
You know, you got a RSS feed.

4544
02:31:08,020 --> 02:31:10,080
So, you know, you have complete control.

4545
02:31:10,620 --> 02:31:12,200
What would you call a YouTube podcast?

4546
02:31:12,500 --> 02:31:14,180
A YouTube video.

4547
02:31:14,540 --> 02:31:15,680
A YouTube?

4548
02:31:16,220 --> 02:31:17,260
A YouTube video.

4549
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:18,420
They're YouTubers.

4550
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:19,400
They're YouTubers.

4551
02:31:19,960 --> 02:31:21,880
Yeah, I would call them YouTubers.

4552
02:31:21,880 --> 02:31:24,880
Now, Rogan, his podcast is on all the

4553
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:27,400
apps, and he happens to upload it to

4554
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:28,020
YouTube.

4555
02:31:28,260 --> 02:31:28,720
That's fine.

4556
02:31:29,260 --> 02:31:30,920
It's mostly clips on YouTube, isn't it?

4557
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,160
No, I think he also has the full

4558
02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:32,700
episodes.

4559
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:36,280
Well, it wasn't when Spotify was dominating.

4560
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:38,080
No, no, then they only had clips, right.

4561
02:31:39,880 --> 02:31:42,880
But all these algo chasers, that's what they

4562
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:42,980
are.

4563
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:44,040
They're algo chasers.

4564
02:31:44,420 --> 02:31:45,680
Algo chasers.

4565
02:31:46,680 --> 02:31:49,160
You're coming up with phrase after phrase today.

4566
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:49,680
Thank you.

4567
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:50,300
They are.

4568
02:31:50,420 --> 02:31:53,720
They're algo chasers, and they have no life,

4569
02:31:53,820 --> 02:31:56,200
because, you know, they don't build an audience.

4570
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:57,500
No, they don't build an audience.

4571
02:31:57,940 --> 02:31:58,900
What they have to do is they have

4572
02:31:58,900 --> 02:32:00,740
to chase the algo and keep it.

4573
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:03,060
Yeah, they get big numbers, but you're right.

4574
02:32:03,180 --> 02:32:03,760
They're not billing.

4575
02:32:04,020 --> 02:32:05,760
It's the algos giving them the audience.

4576
02:32:05,820 --> 02:32:07,620
In fact, what happens is people are looking

4577
02:32:07,620 --> 02:32:09,680
at all the videos, all the algo chasers,

4578
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:10,800
then they come to us.

4579
02:32:11,420 --> 02:32:13,120
Okay, what do the boys actually think of

4580
02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:13,260
this?

4581
02:32:13,260 --> 02:32:13,840
Because we're here.

4582
02:32:14,020 --> 02:32:16,220
We're here, just like a steady stream.

4583
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:17,900
You subscribe to us.

4584
02:32:17,900 --> 02:32:19,900
We do the same thing over and over

4585
02:32:19,900 --> 02:32:20,240
again.

4586
02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:21,660
We're not running around.

4587
02:32:22,260 --> 02:32:23,780
There's no audience capture.

4588
02:32:24,060 --> 02:32:26,640
There's no advertising to screw us over and

4589
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:27,640
make us do other things.

4590
02:32:27,700 --> 02:32:29,680
We don't have to run around and do

4591
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:31,120
the hottest thing right now.

4592
02:32:31,180 --> 02:32:32,320
Oh, we got to talk about this.

4593
02:32:32,620 --> 02:32:33,620
Oh, Trump is crazy.

4594
02:32:33,920 --> 02:32:34,700
Oh, Biden.

4595
02:32:37,260 --> 02:32:38,160
None of that.

4596
02:32:38,780 --> 02:32:39,580
Take a clip, Derek.

4597
02:32:39,620 --> 02:32:40,980
We don't have to do that.

4598
02:32:41,700 --> 02:32:44,060
Now, of course, we don't make YouTube money,

4599
02:32:44,060 --> 02:32:46,340
but most people don't make YouTube money, and

4600
02:32:46,340 --> 02:32:47,060
that's just fine.

4601
02:32:48,460 --> 02:32:50,380
No, there's a few that do, but they're

4602
02:32:50,380 --> 02:32:51,660
the ones that everyone points to.

4603
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:53,740
So one of the, and I just got

4604
02:32:53,740 --> 02:32:55,380
to call this PBD guy.

4605
02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:57,900
Yeah, this is a pet peeve you're expressing.

4606
02:32:58,100 --> 02:32:58,580
Eh, somewhat.

4607
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:00,680
So this PBD guy.

4608
02:33:01,960 --> 02:33:03,760
Oh, Patrick Bet Davis.

4609
02:33:04,020 --> 02:33:05,020
The infotainment guy.

4610
02:33:05,980 --> 02:33:06,420
Infotainment.

4611
02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:08,500
No, it's not infotainment.

4612
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:09,540
It's valutainment.

4613
02:33:09,700 --> 02:33:10,080
Come on.

4614
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:11,240
Get it straight.

4615
02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:12,560
Valutainment.

4616
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:13,360
Valutainment.

4617
02:33:13,360 --> 02:33:14,160
What am I thinking?

4618
02:33:14,940 --> 02:33:15,460
Valutainment.

4619
02:33:16,400 --> 02:33:20,560
You know how I'm always moaning about these

4620
02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:24,200
military algo chasers?

4621
02:33:26,180 --> 02:33:28,460
Although, so Bongino's on the show.

4622
02:33:28,760 --> 02:33:29,720
Bongino's on the show.

4623
02:33:32,020 --> 02:33:35,560
And is Bongino still on SiriusXM?

4624
02:33:35,620 --> 02:33:37,120
Do they still put him on there?

4625
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:38,720
I don't know if he's on SiriusXM, but

4626
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:40,860
he still has a syndicated show.

4627
02:33:40,860 --> 02:33:42,720
He replaced it with Rush.

4628
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:44,360
Oh, he has a radio show?

4629
02:33:44,580 --> 02:33:46,540
He's a radio guy, and he has a

4630
02:33:46,540 --> 02:33:47,040
podcast.

4631
02:33:48,760 --> 02:33:49,020
Well.

4632
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:51,280
And he's kind of breathless all the time.

4633
02:33:52,980 --> 02:33:53,860
So, yeah.

4634
02:33:54,640 --> 02:33:56,620
But, you know, but he's in this milieu.

4635
02:33:57,400 --> 02:33:58,780
No, he's totally in it, yep.

4636
02:33:59,180 --> 02:34:00,960
He was one of the grid-go-down

4637
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:01,440
guys.

4638
02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:03,220
The what?

4639
02:34:03,420 --> 02:34:04,960
He was one of the grids-going-down

4640
02:34:04,960 --> 02:34:05,420
guys.

4641
02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:07,000
Oh, yes.

4642
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:10,360
You know, gets his information through, you know,

4643
02:34:10,360 --> 02:34:11,220
sources.

4644
02:34:12,020 --> 02:34:14,880
And it's podcast propaganda.

4645
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:17,240
And I'm not saying he's complicit.

4646
02:34:17,900 --> 02:34:19,860
It's just he hears from his sources.

4647
02:34:19,960 --> 02:34:21,560
His sources heard from other sources.

4648
02:34:21,660 --> 02:34:22,700
The back-up to the back-up to

4649
02:34:22,700 --> 02:34:23,160
the back-up.

4650
02:34:23,440 --> 02:34:27,440
And it's injected into the podosphere.

4651
02:34:28,300 --> 02:34:30,640
And since he can't get any traction with

4652
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:32,120
it, he has to go on this algo

4653
02:34:32,120 --> 02:34:34,720
chaser PBD and listen to this.

4654
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:36,380
I'll show you what I mean in a

4655
02:34:36,380 --> 02:34:36,660
second.

4656
02:34:36,780 --> 02:34:38,460
Another thing I've been telling you about, the

4657
02:34:38,460 --> 02:34:39,860
inauguration's coming up.

4658
02:34:40,160 --> 02:34:41,280
We're two weeks away.

4659
02:34:42,160 --> 02:34:44,680
Folks, I'm really hesitant to talk about this.

4660
02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:48,340
By the way, that's something, if you're an

4661
02:34:48,340 --> 02:34:50,760
algo chaser, which I think he is now,

4662
02:34:51,160 --> 02:34:52,080
that's what you do.

4663
02:34:52,700 --> 02:34:54,740
I did, you know, we'll probably be taken

4664
02:34:54,740 --> 02:34:57,060
down for saying this.

4665
02:34:57,760 --> 02:34:59,220
You can record this while you can.

4666
02:34:59,220 --> 02:35:02,320
This is actually the modern version of the

4667
02:35:02,320 --> 02:35:04,360
guy at the dinner table who's not funny.

4668
02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:07,020
He says, I got a real funny joke.

4669
02:35:07,460 --> 02:35:08,820
And he prefaces that.

4670
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:10,700
He prefaces the joke with, I've got a

4671
02:35:10,700 --> 02:35:13,600
real funny joke, and it's not funny, ever.

4672
02:35:14,340 --> 02:35:15,380
So this is the thing.

4673
02:35:17,060 --> 02:35:19,100
All that's missing is him saying, hey, guys.

4674
02:35:19,380 --> 02:35:20,760
But, of course, he's a guest on the

4675
02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:20,960
show.

4676
02:35:21,700 --> 02:35:23,660
But when you say that, like, I have

4677
02:35:23,660 --> 02:35:25,980
no, I probably, I shouldn't be saying this.

4678
02:35:25,980 --> 02:35:28,700
They're probably going to shadow ban me, demonetize

4679
02:35:28,700 --> 02:35:29,300
my channel.

4680
02:35:29,860 --> 02:35:31,280
I can't have this.

4681
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:33,460
But I've got to share this with you.

4682
02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:34,940
I'll show you what I mean in a

4683
02:35:34,940 --> 02:35:35,200
second.

4684
02:35:35,340 --> 02:35:37,040
Another thing I've been telling you about, the

4685
02:35:37,040 --> 02:35:38,500
inauguration's coming up.

4686
02:35:38,580 --> 02:35:39,840
We're two weeks away.

4687
02:35:40,780 --> 02:35:43,220
Folks, I'm really hesitant to talk about this.

4688
02:35:43,860 --> 02:35:45,980
But I feel an obligation to put it

4689
02:35:45,980 --> 02:35:46,400
out there.

4690
02:35:47,460 --> 02:35:49,180
I'm taking personal risk.

4691
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:50,660
I have to do it.

4692
02:35:50,860 --> 02:35:52,480
Because I don't have any other avenue to

4693
02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:53,760
do it other than you guys in the

4694
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:54,440
Bongino Army.

4695
02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:56,260
No other place but here.

4696
02:35:56,440 --> 02:35:57,820
He's got a radio show.

4697
02:35:57,820 --> 02:35:58,780
He's got a podcast.

4698
02:35:59,140 --> 02:35:59,920
What is he talking about?

4699
02:36:00,260 --> 02:36:02,320
No, he needs to be on Valuetainment.

4700
02:36:02,840 --> 02:36:04,820
I don't think the Secret Service is prepared.

4701
02:36:05,880 --> 02:36:07,680
And I think the Secret Service, along with

4702
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:10,060
the FBI, are lying to this transition team.

4703
02:36:10,140 --> 02:36:11,580
This transition team knows it.

4704
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:14,600
And, unfortunately, there's nothing they can do until

4705
02:36:14,600 --> 02:36:16,460
they formally take power in two weeks.

4706
02:36:16,640 --> 02:36:18,680
But when they take power in two weeks,

4707
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:20,580
Donald Trump is going to be sitting there

4708
02:36:20,580 --> 02:36:22,160
exposed at the inauguration.

4709
02:36:23,060 --> 02:36:25,260
So, here's not just anybody.

4710
02:36:25,520 --> 02:36:29,360
Dan Bongino was a police officer, New York

4711
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:30,340
City police officer.

4712
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:35,720
It's this stuff that just drives me crazy.

4713
02:36:36,420 --> 02:36:37,680
Spins everybody up.

4714
02:36:38,140 --> 02:36:38,820
Trump's in danger!

4715
02:36:40,740 --> 02:36:43,340
Don't you know God is protecting Trump?

4716
02:36:44,360 --> 02:36:46,140
It's a foregone conclusion.

4717
02:36:46,460 --> 02:36:46,880
Yeah, really.

4718
02:36:47,180 --> 02:36:47,960
Make up your mind.

4719
02:36:47,960 --> 02:36:48,660
Thank you.

4720
02:36:49,020 --> 02:36:50,440
Make up your mind about that.

4721
02:36:50,820 --> 02:36:51,220
That's it.

4722
02:36:51,220 --> 02:36:51,640
That's all.

4723
02:36:52,620 --> 02:36:54,740
That was really just a cover for me

4724
02:36:54,740 --> 02:36:56,620
to launch the term algo chasers.

4725
02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:57,320
You were right.

4726
02:36:57,480 --> 02:36:58,580
I have to cop to it.

4727
02:37:01,820 --> 02:37:03,560
Do you write these down before the show?

4728
02:37:04,100 --> 02:37:04,880
I think you do.

4729
02:37:05,140 --> 02:37:06,200
I have a remarkable…

4730
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:07,540
You're a little OCD, you know that?

4731
02:37:07,540 --> 02:37:08,460
I have a pad.

4732
02:37:08,560 --> 02:37:10,160
I have one of these remarkable tablets.

4733
02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:12,920
And I heard once from somebody who I

4734
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:13,560
think is…

4735
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:17,520
whose opinion I value very highly, that you

4736
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:19,400
should journal every single day.

4737
02:37:19,620 --> 02:37:20,480
You should.

4738
02:37:20,620 --> 02:37:22,020
If you want to be a good writer.

4739
02:37:22,020 --> 02:37:24,100
And if there's one thing I'm not, it's…

4740
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:25,900
I'm not a good writer.

4741
02:37:26,580 --> 02:37:27,920
So I've taken to that.

4742
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:29,500
And this is…

4743
02:37:29,500 --> 02:37:30,080
That's the thing.

4744
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:32,000
You know, what's that guy's name who…

4745
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:33,100
I was on his podcast.

4746
02:37:33,500 --> 02:37:34,420
He used to be at…

4747
02:37:34,420 --> 02:37:35,820
He used to be the Apple pundit.

4748
02:37:35,900 --> 02:37:36,660
Guy Kawasaki.

4749
02:37:37,420 --> 02:37:38,000
It's his company.

4750
02:37:38,120 --> 02:37:38,780
Oh, Guy Kawasaki.

4751
02:37:38,780 --> 02:37:39,600
It's his company.

4752
02:37:40,700 --> 02:37:41,100
And…

4753
02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:43,020
Oh, you call my podcast, I'll send you

4754
02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:43,220
one.

4755
02:37:43,460 --> 02:37:44,500
He never sent me one.

4756
02:37:44,560 --> 02:37:45,260
Of course.

4757
02:37:45,640 --> 02:37:47,220
He bitched about me not getting a flu

4758
02:37:47,220 --> 02:37:49,220
shot or a COVID shot, but he didn't

4759
02:37:49,220 --> 02:37:50,880
send me the promised tablet.

4760
02:37:50,880 --> 02:37:52,560
And then I was at my buddy Vic's

4761
02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:53,960
place in Dallas, and he said, you know,

4762
02:37:54,020 --> 02:37:54,660
you'll love this.

4763
02:37:54,740 --> 02:37:55,100
And I do.

4764
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:56,660
It's remarkable too.

4765
02:37:56,920 --> 02:37:57,420
So, yes.

4766
02:37:57,480 --> 02:37:58,000
So I write.

4767
02:37:58,240 --> 02:38:00,260
When I have an idea, I jot it

4768
02:38:00,260 --> 02:38:00,640
down.

4769
02:38:01,240 --> 02:38:03,220
And then I'll go and review my notes.

4770
02:38:04,900 --> 02:38:07,420
And sometimes I put them in my show

4771
02:38:07,420 --> 02:38:07,720
prep.

4772
02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:08,740
So, yes, that's…

4773
02:38:08,740 --> 02:38:09,340
You're correct.

4774
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:10,180
I do work.

4775
02:38:12,180 --> 02:38:12,360
Huh.

4776
02:38:12,700 --> 02:38:12,900
Yeah.

4777
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:14,080
Surprised.

4778
02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:14,600
You never know.

4779
02:38:14,900 --> 02:38:15,140
Yeah.

4780
02:38:15,400 --> 02:38:15,800
Surprised.

4781
02:38:16,520 --> 02:38:17,580
Yeah, Guy Kawasaki.

4782
02:38:17,580 --> 02:38:19,680
You know, so I'm up at the…

4783
02:38:20,200 --> 02:38:22,620
You should tell people who he is.

4784
02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:26,580
Guy Kawasaki was the first guy, I think,

4785
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:29,480
who put evangelist on his business card back

4786
02:38:29,480 --> 02:38:31,400
in the day when he worked for Apple.

4787
02:38:32,180 --> 02:38:34,320
He was an Apple evangelist.

4788
02:38:34,880 --> 02:38:36,000
Did he get paid for that, do you

4789
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:36,240
think?

4790
02:38:36,380 --> 02:38:36,680
Yeah.

4791
02:38:36,840 --> 02:38:39,480
No, he was actually working there in product

4792
02:38:39,480 --> 02:38:40,520
management or something.

4793
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:42,860
But he took it upon himself to become

4794
02:38:42,860 --> 02:38:43,720
the evangelist.

4795
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:44,800
So he's a big…

4796
02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:46,160
And he became a big shot.

4797
02:38:46,580 --> 02:38:48,060
And he had a lot of…

4798
02:38:48,060 --> 02:38:48,860
He got on a lot of stuff.

4799
02:38:48,960 --> 02:38:50,260
He's kind of an interesting…

4800
02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:52,500
I knew him pretty well enough.

4801
02:38:52,540 --> 02:38:54,000
I never came over for dinner, so he

4802
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:55,020
doesn't count for as a friend.

4803
02:38:55,100 --> 02:38:55,780
But I knew him.

4804
02:38:56,440 --> 02:38:59,160
And so one day we're giving a…

4805
02:39:00,460 --> 02:39:03,640
He's kind of an oddly humorless.

4806
02:39:04,100 --> 02:39:06,260
In a very curious way, because he's always

4807
02:39:06,260 --> 02:39:07,320
got a smile on his face.

4808
02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:09,920
After the interview on the podcast, I said,

4809
02:39:09,980 --> 02:39:12,520
Adam, you know, you're a very smart guy.

4810
02:39:12,720 --> 02:39:14,600
And I really want you to live.

4811
02:39:14,600 --> 02:39:16,000
So please reconsider.

4812
02:39:16,200 --> 02:39:17,240
Take the COVID shot.

4813
02:39:17,380 --> 02:39:18,860
It's really important you do that.

4814
02:39:21,460 --> 02:39:21,700
Really?

4815
02:39:22,320 --> 02:39:22,680
Really.

4816
02:39:23,780 --> 02:39:25,300
So anyway, so he…

4817
02:39:26,420 --> 02:39:29,220
So we're up on the stage giving out

4818
02:39:29,220 --> 02:39:30,560
awards for the Mac User Awards.

4819
02:39:30,680 --> 02:39:31,620
And he's one of the presenters.

4820
02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:32,240
I'm a presenter.

4821
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:33,080
We're both up there.

4822
02:39:33,940 --> 02:39:36,080
And I'm going and I'm doing my thing.

4823
02:39:36,260 --> 02:39:36,940
He did his thing.

4824
02:39:36,980 --> 02:39:37,940
He's standing right next to me.

4825
02:39:37,980 --> 02:39:39,820
I said, you know one thing, guy, we

4826
02:39:39,820 --> 02:39:40,740
both have in common?

4827
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:42,820
And he goes, no, what?

4828
02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:45,380
I said, conflict of interest.

4829
02:39:48,360 --> 02:39:50,640
A classic JCD move.

4830
02:39:50,980 --> 02:39:52,920
And I bet he just deadpanned you like,

4831
02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:53,720
huh?

4832
02:39:54,080 --> 02:39:54,600
Exactly.

4833
02:39:55,480 --> 02:39:57,820
It was the biggest blank stare I've gotten

4834
02:39:57,820 --> 02:39:59,900
from a good line in my life.

4835
02:40:00,440 --> 02:40:02,300
And did the crowd crack up?

4836
02:40:02,880 --> 02:40:04,700
Well, the crowd thought it was amusing.

4837
02:40:04,900 --> 02:40:06,740
But, you know, it was still like, what's

4838
02:40:06,740 --> 02:40:07,460
wrong with the guy?

4839
02:40:08,220 --> 02:40:09,300
So I just…

4840
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:13,560
And so, yeah, I can see him taking

4841
02:40:13,560 --> 02:40:14,740
COVID very seriously.

4842
02:40:14,740 --> 02:40:16,200
Because he takes everything seriously.

4843
02:40:16,480 --> 02:40:17,540
But he's got a big smile on his

4844
02:40:17,540 --> 02:40:17,740
face.

4845
02:40:17,820 --> 02:40:18,600
He's a nice guy.

4846
02:40:18,820 --> 02:40:20,280
Yeah, but what he didn't do is send

4847
02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:21,020
me the tablet.

4848
02:40:21,380 --> 02:40:22,040
I had to go and buy one.

4849
02:40:22,040 --> 02:40:23,140
Yeah, well, there you go.

4850
02:40:25,040 --> 02:40:26,320
That's why I did the show.

4851
02:40:26,460 --> 02:40:27,300
I'm like, this is great.

4852
02:40:27,360 --> 02:40:28,700
I get a tablet out of it.

4853
02:40:28,940 --> 02:40:29,300
No.

4854
02:40:29,820 --> 02:40:31,420
It would have been version one, which I

4855
02:40:31,420 --> 02:40:32,320
hear wasn't so good.

4856
02:40:32,660 --> 02:40:36,100
I got sniffed by Michael Dell on one

4857
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:37,140
of these deals once.

4858
02:40:37,260 --> 02:40:38,480
Michael Dell, the billionaire?

4859
02:40:39,400 --> 02:40:41,000
Yeah, well, it was like we're doing…

4860
02:40:41,000 --> 02:40:42,960
And I know him pretty well.

4861
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:44,960
And he's been to some of the Dvorak

4862
02:40:44,960 --> 02:40:46,320
parties we used to throw at Comdex.

4863
02:40:46,460 --> 02:40:48,040
I can call him.

4864
02:40:48,860 --> 02:40:49,880
But, so I do this thing.

4865
02:40:49,940 --> 02:40:51,700
You have to do this thing for some

4866
02:40:51,700 --> 02:40:52,800
rollout or something.

4867
02:40:52,940 --> 02:40:53,820
This was some years ago.

4868
02:40:54,180 --> 02:40:55,440
I said, I don't have time to do

4869
02:40:55,440 --> 02:40:56,020
this thing.

4870
02:40:56,320 --> 02:40:57,460
He said, I'll give you a computer.

4871
02:40:58,180 --> 02:40:59,460
What computer do you want?

4872
02:41:00,700 --> 02:41:01,840
I said, okay, I'll do it for a

4873
02:41:01,840 --> 02:41:02,160
computer.

4874
02:41:02,440 --> 02:41:02,900
Of course.

4875
02:41:03,140 --> 02:41:03,980
I never got the computer.

4876
02:41:06,520 --> 02:41:09,060
Well, our producer, Jeremy, will send you a

4877
02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:11,960
Dell Slimline 3080.

4878
02:41:14,880 --> 02:41:15,600
This guy…

4879
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:17,100
Our producer, Jeremy, he already, I think, got

4880
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:17,440
contact.

4881
02:41:17,580 --> 02:41:19,660
He had all the extra computers because he's

4882
02:41:19,660 --> 02:41:20,660
taking them offline.

4883
02:41:20,920 --> 02:41:21,080
Yeah.

4884
02:41:21,200 --> 02:41:22,040
That's that guy, right?

4885
02:41:22,200 --> 02:41:22,420
Yeah.

4886
02:41:23,040 --> 02:41:25,200
Yeah, I sent him my request.

4887
02:41:25,280 --> 02:41:26,000
I never got anything.

4888
02:41:26,220 --> 02:41:28,040
Well, he gave it to me to give

4889
02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:29,280
to you and…

4890
02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:30,200
Oh, no.

4891
02:41:30,240 --> 02:41:31,500
He's giving it to you to give to

4892
02:41:31,500 --> 02:41:33,000
me because I got something for you to

4893
02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:34,760
give to you that he gave to me.

4894
02:41:35,080 --> 02:41:36,300
And this guy gave it to me to

4895
02:41:36,300 --> 02:41:36,820
give to you.

4896
02:41:36,960 --> 02:41:37,580
Big mistake.

4897
02:41:37,960 --> 02:41:40,860
People, just send the stuff directly.

4898
02:41:40,860 --> 02:41:43,100
Adam has a boast office box.

4899
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:44,680
He'll give you the number if you ask

4900
02:41:44,680 --> 02:41:46,500
him and you can send directly to him.

4901
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:49,980
I got stuff backed up that I'm supposed

4902
02:41:49,980 --> 02:41:50,740
to send to you.

4903
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:52,780
It's all stale now, by the way, unfortunately.

4904
02:41:53,040 --> 02:41:53,440
But I'll tell you, the No Agenda…

4905
02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:54,520
A live chicken?

4906
02:41:54,700 --> 02:41:55,100
Come on.

4907
02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:56,020
I can't send that to Adam.

4908
02:41:56,020 --> 02:41:58,080
Here's one thing, and Tina's really good about

4909
02:41:58,080 --> 02:41:58,280
this.

4910
02:41:58,320 --> 02:42:01,140
The No Agenda Fudge people, NoAgendaFudge.com.

4911
02:42:01,460 --> 02:42:03,220
They sent us fudge, and in the fudge

4912
02:42:03,220 --> 02:42:06,380
was a check for like $385 made out

4913
02:42:06,380 --> 02:42:09,920
to No Agenda, which I don't know if

4914
02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:11,560
they got credited for that or not or

4915
02:42:11,560 --> 02:42:13,200
how they did that or why they did

4916
02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:14,580
that, but Tina's really good.

4917
02:42:14,640 --> 02:42:16,680
She's like, boom, I'm sending it off to

4918
02:42:16,680 --> 02:42:17,740
John, and she does that.

4919
02:42:17,820 --> 02:42:19,260
She does that really well.

4920
02:42:20,360 --> 02:42:23,320
Yeah, she's the one who does that.

4921
02:42:23,420 --> 02:42:25,000
Yeah, she does that.

4922
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:25,660
It's not you.

4923
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:28,080
You need one of those to send stuff

4924
02:42:28,080 --> 02:42:28,520
to me.

4925
02:42:28,860 --> 02:42:30,500
Actually, Jay will do that.

4926
02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:32,240
Yeah, well, ask Jay to send that stuff

4927
02:42:32,240 --> 02:42:33,960
to me, and I'll ask Jeremy to send

4928
02:42:33,960 --> 02:42:34,920
you a Dell directly.

4929
02:42:34,920 --> 02:42:37,240
Anyway, so Michael Dell never follows through.

4930
02:42:37,240 --> 02:42:38,160
So you have two Dells now.

4931
02:42:38,540 --> 02:42:40,660
Yeah, but I already ruined one, so don't

4932
02:42:40,660 --> 02:42:41,040
ask me about it.

4933
02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:41,260
What?

4934
02:42:41,420 --> 02:42:43,080
Don't even ask me how that happened.

4935
02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:44,040
It's a long story.

4936
02:42:45,460 --> 02:42:47,340
You're not supposed to drop them in the

4937
02:42:47,340 --> 02:42:47,600
toilet.

4938
02:42:47,780 --> 02:42:49,840
No, it's a long Windows story.

4939
02:42:51,660 --> 02:42:53,060
But Linux on it.

4940
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:53,740
Yeah, yeah.

4941
02:42:54,060 --> 02:42:56,580
Well, forget about it.

4942
02:42:57,200 --> 02:42:57,960
Forget about it.

4943
02:42:58,060 --> 02:42:58,620
Oh, you toasted it.

4944
02:42:58,700 --> 02:42:59,540
I toasted it.

4945
02:43:00,980 --> 02:43:03,280
Anyway, so he reneged on you.

4946
02:43:03,300 --> 02:43:04,160
You can still call him.

4947
02:43:04,160 --> 02:43:07,280
You can still call Michael Dell, billionaire computer

4948
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:08,760
manufacturer, Michael Dell.

4949
02:43:09,380 --> 02:43:09,820
Yeah?

4950
02:43:10,180 --> 02:43:12,640
Call him and say, hey, Dell, hey, Dell.

4951
02:43:13,420 --> 02:43:15,860
He probably already forgot about the promise.

4952
02:43:15,880 --> 02:43:16,880
I'm sending Curry over.

4953
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:18,520
I'm sending Curry over to pick it up.

4954
02:43:18,540 --> 02:43:20,680
I just always keep these things.

4955
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:21,940
I got a couple Biden clips.

4956
02:43:22,260 --> 02:43:22,920
Okay, let's see.

4957
02:43:23,060 --> 02:43:25,520
Well, yes, this will be one of the

4958
02:43:25,520 --> 02:43:26,180
last few weeks.

4959
02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:27,960
We get Biden clips before they announce he's

4960
02:43:27,960 --> 02:43:28,380
dead.

4961
02:43:28,920 --> 02:43:31,120
The first one is this one, which is

4962
02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:32,160
the biggest.

4963
02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:32,920
This is the biggest.

4964
02:43:33,140 --> 02:43:36,140
You know, Biden has decided months ago, I

4965
02:43:36,140 --> 02:43:39,020
guess Jill decided, Joe, we got to get

4966
02:43:39,020 --> 02:43:40,960
travel as much as we can before we

4967
02:43:40,960 --> 02:43:42,220
lose the jet.

4968
02:43:43,160 --> 02:43:45,180
The 747 jet.

4969
02:43:45,320 --> 02:43:45,700
Yes.

4970
02:43:45,940 --> 02:43:47,060
So what can we do?

4971
02:43:47,160 --> 02:43:48,040
Where can we go?

4972
02:43:48,200 --> 02:43:49,060
I know Vatican.

4973
02:43:50,500 --> 02:43:52,140
So play this clip.

4974
02:43:52,540 --> 02:43:54,600
In other news, President Biden has given Pope

4975
02:43:54,600 --> 02:43:57,480
Francis the nation's highest civilian award, the Presidential

4976
02:43:57,480 --> 02:43:59,040
Medal of Freedom with distinction.

4977
02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:02,460
The citation describes Francis as a light of

4978
02:44:02,460 --> 02:44:05,200
faith, hope and love that shines brightly across

4979
02:44:05,200 --> 02:44:05,760
the world.

4980
02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:08,160
It's the first and only time Mr. Biden

4981
02:44:08,160 --> 02:44:09,900
has made the award with distinction.

4982
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:12,360
The president and the pope spoke by phone

4983
02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:12,720
today.

4984
02:44:12,860 --> 02:44:14,520
They were to have met this weekend in

4985
02:44:14,520 --> 02:44:15,520
person at the Vatican.

4986
02:44:15,940 --> 02:44:17,840
But Mr. Biden canceled the trip in order

4987
02:44:17,840 --> 02:44:20,480
to focus on the deadly Los Angeles wildfires.

4988
02:44:21,520 --> 02:44:23,140
I'm glad I was going to take a

4989
02:44:23,140 --> 02:44:25,680
trip to the Vatican a week before the

4990
02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:29,520
inauguration of Trump because Jill wanted another trip

4991
02:44:29,520 --> 02:44:31,040
and they wanted to go to the Vatican.

4992
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:32,100
Give me a break.

4993
02:44:32,160 --> 02:44:33,980
This was a scam award.

4994
02:44:36,520 --> 02:44:38,760
Thank you for playing that, because it reminded

4995
02:44:38,760 --> 02:44:41,080
me I got a note from one of

4996
02:44:41,080 --> 02:44:41,700
our producers.

4997
02:44:43,180 --> 02:44:45,260
And you told me, remember this, and I

4998
02:44:45,260 --> 02:44:46,180
didn't write it down.

4999
02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:48,000
And you will now.

5000
02:44:48,100 --> 02:44:48,820
You got your pad.

5001
02:44:48,860 --> 02:44:49,180
I do.

5002
02:44:49,180 --> 02:44:49,840
I got my pad.

5003
02:44:49,940 --> 02:44:51,760
And this was about the.

5004
02:44:54,340 --> 02:44:57,120
About the the the medals that Biden gave

5005
02:44:57,120 --> 02:44:57,760
out recently.

5006
02:44:58,520 --> 02:44:58,740
Yeah.

5007
02:44:59,540 --> 02:45:02,200
And so we were wondering about Tim Gill.

5008
02:45:02,360 --> 02:45:02,960
Who was that?

5009
02:45:03,060 --> 02:45:04,140
Why did he get a medal?

5010
02:45:06,260 --> 02:45:06,800
Tim Gill.

5011
02:45:06,860 --> 02:45:07,800
Do you remember this, Tim?

5012
02:45:07,860 --> 02:45:08,540
Yeah, I remember.

5013
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:09,500
And I think it has something to do

5014
02:45:09,500 --> 02:45:10,920
with donations or something.

5015
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:12,880
So here's the note I got from my

5016
02:45:12,880 --> 02:45:13,480
buddy, Rob.

5017
02:45:13,480 --> 02:45:16,560
Tim Gill gave four hundred thousand dollars to

5018
02:45:16,560 --> 02:45:19,240
Biden and told me that would be my

5019
02:45:19,240 --> 02:45:20,560
buddy Rob at a party.

5020
02:45:21,140 --> 02:45:23,020
He expects something for it.

5021
02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:27,940
And his partner, Tim Gill's partner, is ambassador

5022
02:45:27,940 --> 02:45:29,820
to Switzerland and Liechtenstein.

5023
02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:31,860
That's how it works, people.

5024
02:45:32,200 --> 02:45:32,900
You want a medal?

5025
02:45:33,780 --> 02:45:34,240
Pony up.

5026
02:45:34,740 --> 02:45:35,760
You want an ambassadorship?

5027
02:45:36,160 --> 02:45:36,720
Pony up.

5028
02:45:37,960 --> 02:45:40,000
How about that for some inside dirt, huh?

5029
02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:44,360
We're going to do ambassadorships on the show.

5030
02:45:44,580 --> 02:45:45,200
There you go.

5031
02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:46,120
There you go.

5032
02:45:46,220 --> 02:45:47,900
And it's not going to cost four hundred

5033
02:45:47,900 --> 02:45:48,700
thousand bucks.

5034
02:45:48,840 --> 02:45:50,300
And you can only be one per country.

5035
02:45:51,180 --> 02:45:52,160
Well, I don't think we do.

5036
02:45:52,240 --> 02:45:53,520
But I think it should be ambassador at

5037
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:54,020
large.

5038
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:56,460
You're just the ambassador.

5039
02:45:57,320 --> 02:45:58,740
But shouldn't you get a country?

5040
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:02,180
Do you want to do it by countries?

5041
02:46:02,400 --> 02:46:04,720
The no agenda ambassador to someplace or other?

5042
02:46:05,740 --> 02:46:06,080
Yeah.

5043
02:46:06,540 --> 02:46:09,000
It complicates things on the on the on

5044
02:46:09,000 --> 02:46:09,740
the certificate.

5045
02:46:10,000 --> 02:46:12,520
It complicates the trying to keep it simple.

5046
02:46:13,580 --> 02:46:16,020
I think ambassadorship is the way to go.

5047
02:46:16,620 --> 02:46:18,400
And we need to do it a month

5048
02:46:18,400 --> 02:46:20,120
ahead if we don't get better donations.

5049
02:46:20,440 --> 02:46:21,900
You know, we still haven't got an instant

5050
02:46:21,900 --> 02:46:22,780
night all year.

5051
02:46:23,180 --> 02:46:24,480
I got back to Biden.

5052
02:46:24,540 --> 02:46:25,080
Back to Biden.

5053
02:46:25,260 --> 02:46:25,400
Yeah.

5054
02:46:25,460 --> 02:46:25,700
OK.

5055
02:46:26,440 --> 02:46:27,340
Here is Biden.

5056
02:46:28,840 --> 02:46:31,520
This is again, this is just to screw

5057
02:46:31,520 --> 02:46:32,220
Trump over.

5058
02:46:32,300 --> 02:46:33,760
Biden, new sanctions.

5059
02:46:34,260 --> 02:46:37,160
The Biden administration announced new sanctions against Russia's

5060
02:46:37,160 --> 02:46:39,600
energy sector today, hoping to deal a massive

5061
02:46:39,600 --> 02:46:41,540
blow to its economy over the war in

5062
02:46:41,540 --> 02:46:41,880
Ukraine.

5063
02:46:42,260 --> 02:46:43,060
Massive blow to Trump.

5064
02:46:43,080 --> 02:46:45,100
The measures punish two of Russia's largest oil

5065
02:46:45,100 --> 02:46:47,920
and gas companies, plus energy officials and entities

5066
02:46:47,920 --> 02:46:49,460
that do business with Russia.

5067
02:46:49,700 --> 02:46:51,720
They also target a fleet of more than

5068
02:46:51,720 --> 02:46:54,780
180 vessels Moscow has used to evade previous

5069
02:46:54,780 --> 02:46:55,280
sanctions.

5070
02:46:55,900 --> 02:46:58,420
Officials say they're the most significant such measures

5071
02:46:58,420 --> 02:47:01,200
to date, costing Russia billions of dollars per

5072
02:47:01,200 --> 02:47:01,560
month.

5073
02:47:01,900 --> 02:47:03,920
But they acknowledge it's up to the incoming

5074
02:47:03,920 --> 02:47:06,680
Trump administration to keep the sanctions or scrap

5075
02:47:06,680 --> 02:47:06,880
them.

5076
02:47:07,740 --> 02:47:08,340
Wow.

5077
02:47:08,940 --> 02:47:10,780
Yeah, we can figure that one out.

5078
02:47:10,900 --> 02:47:11,520
That's bullcrap.

5079
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:14,380
And my last Biden clip is here's Biden's

5080
02:47:14,380 --> 02:47:18,080
slamming meta for going free speech.

5081
02:47:18,440 --> 02:47:20,840
The U.S. president has slammed as shameful

5082
02:47:20,840 --> 02:47:22,060
IT giant.

5083
02:47:22,360 --> 02:47:23,120
Hold on a second.

5084
02:47:23,260 --> 02:47:24,060
Is this the BBC?

5085
02:47:25,240 --> 02:47:26,100
No, this is NHK.

5086
02:47:26,960 --> 02:47:28,100
Oh, it's slammed.

5087
02:47:28,720 --> 02:47:31,500
Since when did the news start using the

5088
02:47:31,500 --> 02:47:32,580
term slammed?

5089
02:47:33,800 --> 02:47:34,680
It's better.

5090
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:35,340
I know.

5091
02:47:35,340 --> 02:47:37,440
We've been hearing it for a while.

5092
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:38,680
What's her name?

5093
02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:42,300
The woman that we have to play a

5094
02:47:42,300 --> 02:47:44,820
clip about playing her clip.

5095
02:47:45,340 --> 02:47:45,820
Amy.

5096
02:47:45,820 --> 02:47:46,700
Oh, you said her name.

5097
02:47:47,020 --> 02:47:49,000
Amy says it all the time.

5098
02:47:49,360 --> 02:47:49,880
Slammed.

5099
02:47:50,400 --> 02:47:50,920
Slammed.

5100
02:47:51,640 --> 02:47:52,980
Give me a break.

5101
02:47:53,080 --> 02:47:53,400
All right.

5102
02:47:53,560 --> 02:47:54,000
Slammed.

5103
02:47:54,020 --> 02:47:56,620
The U.S. president has slammed as shameful

5104
02:47:56,620 --> 02:47:59,580
IT giant Meta's decision to end its third

5105
02:47:59,580 --> 02:48:01,460
-party fact-checking program.

5106
02:48:01,460 --> 02:48:05,200
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced on Tuesday that

5107
02:48:05,200 --> 02:48:07,740
the company has decided to abandon the practice

5108
02:48:07,740 --> 02:48:11,260
on its social media platforms, Facebook and Instagram.

5109
02:48:11,880 --> 02:48:13,040
We're going to get back to our roots

5110
02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:16,660
and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies

5111
02:48:16,660 --> 02:48:19,640
and restoring free expression on our platforms.

5112
02:48:20,040 --> 02:48:22,960
Speaking to reporters on Friday, Biden called the

5113
02:48:22,960 --> 02:48:25,180
decision contrary to American justice.

5114
02:48:25,180 --> 02:48:28,140
When you have millions of people reading, going

5115
02:48:28,140 --> 02:48:33,000
online, reading this stuff, it is anyway, I

5116
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:36,300
think it's I think it's really shameful.

5117
02:48:37,280 --> 02:48:38,560
It's shameful.

5118
02:48:39,700 --> 02:48:42,780
Did you see Zuckerberg on Rogan or hear

5119
02:48:42,780 --> 02:48:43,900
Zuckerberg on Rogan?

5120
02:48:44,220 --> 02:48:45,900
I saw some clips of it.

5121
02:48:46,220 --> 02:48:46,360
Yeah.

5122
02:48:46,420 --> 02:48:47,000
What'd you think?

5123
02:48:48,520 --> 02:48:50,600
You know, Rogan could have gone after him

5124
02:48:50,600 --> 02:48:51,200
a little harder.

5125
02:48:52,480 --> 02:48:55,000
Because there is that there is the there

5126
02:48:55,000 --> 02:48:56,080
is the meme.

5127
02:48:56,220 --> 02:48:57,960
It's not a meme, but it's a posting

5128
02:48:57,960 --> 02:48:59,300
that he did in.

5129
02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:01,760
I think it was after Trump got became

5130
02:49:01,760 --> 02:49:04,360
president or or when before he was running

5131
02:49:04,360 --> 02:49:05,000
in 2020.

5132
02:49:05,900 --> 02:49:10,500
I just Zuckerberg slamming the president saying we

5133
02:49:10,500 --> 02:49:12,120
had to take him off the platform.

5134
02:49:12,180 --> 02:49:13,180
He's banned forever.

5135
02:49:13,180 --> 02:49:14,500
And he went on and on and on

5136
02:49:14,500 --> 02:49:14,900
about it.

5137
02:49:14,900 --> 02:49:16,200
And this was never addressed.

5138
02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:18,420
He's kind of some other things were never

5139
02:49:18,420 --> 02:49:18,640
addressed.

5140
02:49:18,740 --> 02:49:19,560
He's kind of slippery.

5141
02:49:19,560 --> 02:49:23,180
Our man Zuck there because he was in

5142
02:49:23,180 --> 02:49:23,680
full on.

5143
02:49:23,800 --> 02:49:25,140
Well, you know, I run the company.

5144
02:49:25,340 --> 02:49:27,160
I'm focused on the future.

5145
02:49:27,480 --> 02:49:28,580
I have a team.

5146
02:49:29,460 --> 02:49:30,540
You know, he threw it all on the

5147
02:49:30,540 --> 02:49:31,000
team.

5148
02:49:31,060 --> 02:49:32,860
The team is supposed to do that now.

5149
02:49:33,040 --> 02:49:34,640
And there and the government was caught.

5150
02:49:34,720 --> 02:49:36,520
By the way, the Supreme Court ruled that

5151
02:49:36,520 --> 02:49:38,700
the government was OK with what they did,

5152
02:49:38,720 --> 02:49:42,000
which I found to be the true tragedy

5153
02:49:42,000 --> 02:49:45,240
of misjustice that the government was calling and

5154
02:49:45,240 --> 02:49:46,440
screaming at our people.

5155
02:49:46,440 --> 02:49:48,940
And that was the government calling and they

5156
02:49:48,940 --> 02:49:50,440
were they coerced us.

5157
02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:56,200
OK, well, he actually testified before Congress.

5158
02:49:57,400 --> 02:49:59,660
There was a good article written by some

5159
02:49:59,660 --> 02:50:02,420
lefty and the verge that actually took him

5160
02:50:02,420 --> 02:50:03,000
to task.

5161
02:50:03,840 --> 02:50:07,360
And he actually testified before Congress that in

5162
02:50:07,360 --> 02:50:09,380
the at the end of the day, no

5163
02:50:09,380 --> 02:50:11,420
matter what the government did, it was my

5164
02:50:11,420 --> 02:50:11,720
decision.

5165
02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:13,100
Oh, really?

5166
02:50:13,100 --> 02:50:13,940
Yes.

5167
02:50:14,240 --> 02:50:16,640
And I now I remember him saying it

5168
02:50:16,640 --> 02:50:17,800
when he was giving testimony.

5169
02:50:18,020 --> 02:50:20,880
Well, who's really responsible is my I me.

5170
02:50:21,160 --> 02:50:23,020
I decided I'm the decider.

5171
02:50:23,360 --> 02:50:27,260
And so he he also he also said,

5172
02:50:27,340 --> 02:50:29,120
you know, I control the company, which is

5173
02:50:29,120 --> 02:50:30,520
true because of the share structure.

5174
02:50:30,520 --> 02:50:31,000
They have the.

5175
02:50:31,340 --> 02:50:31,580
Oh, yeah.

5176
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:34,260
If you had just said, you know, I

5177
02:50:34,260 --> 02:50:36,260
was wrong, I would have been OK with

5178
02:50:36,260 --> 02:50:36,540
that.

5179
02:50:37,460 --> 02:50:38,380
Nobody does that.

5180
02:50:38,680 --> 02:50:40,240
No one does that anymore except us.

5181
02:50:41,380 --> 02:50:43,200
Yeah, we do it all the time because

5182
02:50:43,200 --> 02:50:46,280
people send us notes and say, hey, you're

5183
02:50:46,280 --> 02:50:46,600
wrong.

5184
02:50:46,680 --> 02:50:47,640
And we read the note.

5185
02:50:48,320 --> 02:50:49,940
Well, sometimes we go on.

5186
02:50:50,060 --> 02:50:51,540
We try to keep this show honest.

5187
02:50:51,620 --> 02:50:53,360
We're honest to honest dudes.

5188
02:50:53,540 --> 02:50:53,820
We do.

5189
02:50:54,180 --> 02:50:58,100
I have two clips about this Trump conviction

5190
02:50:58,100 --> 02:50:59,740
that I think we just need to get

5191
02:50:59,740 --> 02:51:00,440
out of the way.

5192
02:51:00,620 --> 02:51:02,500
Because I have to follow up clip.

5193
02:51:02,640 --> 02:51:05,600
OK, which will be the Capehart talking about

5194
02:51:05,600 --> 02:51:06,100
a clip.

5195
02:51:06,100 --> 02:51:08,500
Never before has this court been presented with

5196
02:51:08,500 --> 02:51:11,480
such a unique and remarkable set of circumstances.

5197
02:51:11,880 --> 02:51:15,560
And so began Judge Warren Roshan's historic sentencing

5198
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:18,860
delivered in a lower Manhattan courtroom filled with

5199
02:51:18,860 --> 02:51:20,260
reporters and lawyers.

5200
02:51:20,900 --> 02:51:23,100
Donald Trump was spared the spectacle of an

5201
02:51:23,100 --> 02:51:24,180
in-person appearance.

5202
02:51:24,680 --> 02:51:27,080
He learned his fate watching by video feed

5203
02:51:27,080 --> 02:51:28,500
from his Florida estate.

5204
02:51:28,500 --> 02:51:32,920
The only lawful sentence that permits entry of

5205
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:36,660
a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the

5206
02:51:36,660 --> 02:51:39,880
highest office in the land is an unconditional

5207
02:51:39,880 --> 02:51:40,680
discharge.

5208
02:51:41,000 --> 02:51:43,760
There will be no jail time, no fines

5209
02:51:43,760 --> 02:51:47,200
and no real punishment after being found guilty

5210
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:50,360
on 34 felony charges for hush money payments

5211
02:51:50,360 --> 02:51:53,240
to adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep

5212
02:51:53,240 --> 02:51:56,320
their alleged affair quiet during the 2016 election.

5213
02:51:56,320 --> 02:52:00,180
The judge explaining Trump's reelection factored into his

5214
02:52:00,180 --> 02:52:03,560
decision, acknowledging there are protections that come with

5215
02:52:03,560 --> 02:52:05,780
being the occupant of the Oval Office.

5216
02:52:06,260 --> 02:52:09,100
Though Trump is a convicted felon, the first

5217
02:52:09,100 --> 02:52:11,580
ever American president with a criminal record.

5218
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:14,440
Trump's team plans to appeal the decision which

5219
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:17,200
he again railed against in court.

5220
02:52:17,380 --> 02:52:20,500
This has been a very terrible experience.

5221
02:52:20,840 --> 02:52:21,900
I'm totally innocent.

5222
02:52:22,580 --> 02:52:23,740
I did nothing wrong.

5223
02:52:24,680 --> 02:52:27,000
Yeah, I think this will be overturned on

5224
02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:27,340
appeal.

5225
02:52:27,500 --> 02:52:28,080
I'm pretty sure.

5226
02:52:30,570 --> 02:52:32,090
Well, that's what everybody thinks.

5227
02:52:32,210 --> 02:52:32,530
Oh, really?

5228
02:52:32,910 --> 02:52:33,150
Yeah.

5229
02:52:33,510 --> 02:52:35,670
I mean, I actually think so, too.

5230
02:52:35,770 --> 02:52:38,210
But it's annoying because it was a statute

5231
02:52:38,210 --> 02:52:39,310
of limitations issues.

5232
02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:44,470
A strange construction of the law issues for

5233
02:52:44,470 --> 02:52:46,130
misdemeanors turning into felonies.

5234
02:52:46,170 --> 02:52:48,210
The whole thing is sketchy, sketchy.

5235
02:52:48,210 --> 02:52:50,630
You have more clips because before Capehart really

5236
02:52:50,630 --> 02:52:51,650
tops this off.

5237
02:52:52,150 --> 02:52:54,230
Well, I don't know, because I have George

5238
02:52:54,230 --> 02:52:56,350
Conway with Joy Reid.

5239
02:52:56,690 --> 02:52:57,690
I'm I'm I'm a little.

5240
02:52:58,110 --> 02:52:58,710
Oh, no, no.

5241
02:52:58,750 --> 02:52:59,850
Play Conway first.

5242
02:53:00,350 --> 02:53:02,030
A person who normally is convicted of a

5243
02:53:02,030 --> 02:53:03,970
felony can't vote in the state of Florida

5244
02:53:03,970 --> 02:53:06,870
and about eight other former Confederate states already.

5245
02:53:07,030 --> 02:53:08,530
The governor said, no, we're going to let

5246
02:53:08,530 --> 02:53:09,090
him vote anyway.

5247
02:53:09,170 --> 02:53:10,070
We're going to clear his record.

5248
02:53:10,170 --> 02:53:10,450
Let him do.

5249
02:53:10,570 --> 02:53:12,630
I love how she says Confederate states.

5250
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:14,570
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

5251
02:53:14,930 --> 02:53:16,550
Confederate states.

5252
02:53:17,370 --> 02:53:19,170
Check the calendar, babe.

5253
02:53:19,170 --> 02:53:20,610
In a state of Florida and about eight

5254
02:53:20,610 --> 02:53:23,570
other former Confederate states already, the governor of

5255
02:53:23,570 --> 02:53:24,730
Florida said, no, we're going to let him

5256
02:53:24,730 --> 02:53:25,170
vote anyway.

5257
02:53:25,290 --> 02:53:26,150
We're going to clear his record.

5258
02:53:26,230 --> 02:53:26,790
Let him do that.

5259
02:53:27,130 --> 02:53:29,230
Like 38 countries you not supposed to be

5260
02:53:29,230 --> 02:53:31,770
able to travel to, including England, Canada, Mexico,

5261
02:53:32,450 --> 02:53:37,150
Australia, Japan, China, Argentina, all of which he

5262
02:53:37,150 --> 02:53:38,490
visited in his first term.

5263
02:53:38,730 --> 02:53:39,410
Thirty eight countries.

5264
02:53:39,530 --> 02:53:41,350
You're not allowed to get in if you're

5265
02:53:41,350 --> 02:53:41,770
a felon.

5266
02:53:42,030 --> 02:53:44,050
You know, all of the stigma that normally

5267
02:53:44,050 --> 02:53:45,610
associates you to check a box.

5268
02:53:45,610 --> 02:53:47,510
If you want to buy a gun, if

5269
02:53:47,510 --> 02:53:49,350
you want to get certain licenses, you can't

5270
02:53:49,350 --> 02:53:50,890
sell weed, have a weed business.

5271
02:53:51,290 --> 02:53:53,650
Donald Trump is already getting a blight on

5272
02:53:53,650 --> 02:53:54,290
all of that.

5273
02:53:54,410 --> 02:53:55,010
I mean, I don't know.

5274
02:53:55,070 --> 02:53:56,270
Does he get to travel to one of

5275
02:53:56,270 --> 02:53:56,750
these countries?

5276
02:53:56,810 --> 02:53:57,670
He's threatening tariffs.

5277
02:53:57,790 --> 02:53:59,150
Let's say, oh, buddy, you want to do

5278
02:53:59,150 --> 02:54:00,130
25 percent tariffs.

5279
02:54:00,410 --> 02:54:01,570
How about you can't come here because you're

5280
02:54:01,570 --> 02:54:02,430
a felon?

5281
02:54:02,770 --> 02:54:04,210
Yeah, I don't know what the Canadian law

5282
02:54:04,210 --> 02:54:06,090
is, but they're probably they probably will have

5283
02:54:06,090 --> 02:54:06,730
to give him away.

5284
02:54:08,190 --> 02:54:11,230
You know, I mean, the first felon, who

5285
02:54:11,230 --> 02:54:13,210
I also like to call the first whiner,

5286
02:54:13,530 --> 02:54:16,430
this is this is par for the course

5287
02:54:16,430 --> 02:54:16,830
for him.

5288
02:54:16,910 --> 02:54:20,050
He has been skating throughout his life and

5289
02:54:20,050 --> 02:54:22,090
yet he's led this life of crime.

5290
02:54:22,190 --> 02:54:24,730
And it's it is distressing.

5291
02:54:25,490 --> 02:54:28,030
I love the idea of Trump weed.

5292
02:54:28,690 --> 02:54:30,630
As a great it's a great business.

5293
02:54:30,850 --> 02:54:32,250
Everybody would be buying that.

5294
02:54:32,890 --> 02:54:33,690
It's the best.

5295
02:54:33,750 --> 02:54:36,010
You know, it's probably he may have given

5296
02:54:36,010 --> 02:54:36,730
him an idea.

5297
02:54:36,950 --> 02:54:39,170
It's the best weed gets you really high.

5298
02:54:39,590 --> 02:54:40,530
It's dynamite weed.

5299
02:54:40,910 --> 02:54:41,790
No skunk.

5300
02:54:41,930 --> 02:54:43,690
This is not some this is top notch

5301
02:54:43,690 --> 02:54:44,110
kush.

5302
02:54:46,110 --> 02:54:49,150
Well, you know, he's he's a teetotaler, but

5303
02:54:49,150 --> 02:54:50,190
he does own a winery.

5304
02:54:50,490 --> 02:54:50,950
Mm hmm.

5305
02:54:51,530 --> 02:54:53,330
So it's and he would never use the

5306
02:54:53,330 --> 02:54:54,450
weed, but he could.

5307
02:54:54,570 --> 02:54:55,150
I can see it.

5308
02:54:55,150 --> 02:54:56,070
Don Junior could do it.

5309
02:54:56,090 --> 02:54:57,210
Don Junior could run it.

5310
02:54:57,210 --> 02:54:57,770
It'd be fine.

5311
02:54:58,010 --> 02:54:59,010
He looks like a stoner.

5312
02:54:59,290 --> 02:54:59,450
Yeah.

5313
02:54:59,690 --> 02:55:00,030
So.

5314
02:55:00,030 --> 02:55:01,210
All right.

5315
02:55:01,230 --> 02:55:01,430
So.

5316
02:55:01,550 --> 02:55:04,230
So we go to PBS and we have

5317
02:55:04,230 --> 02:55:05,570
Brooks and Capehart.

5318
02:55:05,870 --> 02:55:08,510
And so we get a real rundown on

5319
02:55:08,510 --> 02:55:10,130
the on this case.

5320
02:55:11,050 --> 02:55:15,330
And Capehart being the complete a-hole that

5321
02:55:15,330 --> 02:55:15,890
he is.

5322
02:55:17,490 --> 02:55:17,710
All right.

5323
02:55:17,770 --> 02:55:18,030
Really?

5324
02:55:18,150 --> 02:55:21,230
And showing showing no sympathy or understanding.

5325
02:55:21,510 --> 02:55:24,170
And if Brooks and Capehart, they sit there,

5326
02:55:24,290 --> 02:55:25,730
the two of them ones, you know, they're

5327
02:55:25,730 --> 02:55:27,770
both on the same side of the political

5328
02:55:27,770 --> 02:55:30,470
spectrum trying to give us insight, but not

5329
02:55:30,470 --> 02:55:34,930
doing any sort of triangulation on a topic.

5330
02:55:35,350 --> 02:55:35,850
Self-reflection.

5331
02:55:35,890 --> 02:55:36,590
No reflection.

5332
02:55:36,730 --> 02:55:37,570
No triangulation.

5333
02:55:37,770 --> 02:55:39,890
Nothing where you can actually where the where

5334
02:55:39,890 --> 02:55:43,610
the viewer of PBS NewsHour can actually learn

5335
02:55:43,610 --> 02:55:45,790
something or get some sort of perspective.

5336
02:55:45,950 --> 02:55:46,310
That's not.

5337
02:55:46,430 --> 02:55:48,050
I hate Trump.

5338
02:55:48,650 --> 02:55:50,490
Donald Trump should have been president.

5339
02:55:50,770 --> 02:55:51,130
I'm sorry.

5340
02:55:51,210 --> 02:55:51,690
Wait, wait.

5341
02:55:51,710 --> 02:55:52,090
I'm sorry.

5342
02:55:52,350 --> 02:55:52,870
Perfect.

5343
02:55:53,650 --> 02:55:57,850
So here he goes with his evaluation.

5344
02:55:57,850 --> 02:55:59,330
That is nonsense.

5345
02:55:59,770 --> 02:56:01,910
Donald Trump is vowing to appeal this conviction.

5346
02:56:02,110 --> 02:56:03,270
We'll see what comes of that.

5347
02:56:03,670 --> 02:56:05,930
But after, you know, being convicted of 34

5348
02:56:05,930 --> 02:56:07,710
felonies, there are people who look at this

5349
02:56:07,710 --> 02:56:09,430
case and they say that, you know, Donald

5350
02:56:09,430 --> 02:56:11,830
Trump walks away with a punishment that is

5351
02:56:11,830 --> 02:56:13,850
less than what one would receive for a

5352
02:56:13,850 --> 02:56:14,330
speeding ticket.

5353
02:56:14,570 --> 02:56:16,470
Look, look, look, look.

5354
02:56:16,890 --> 02:56:19,170
This case, this hush money case was the

5355
02:56:19,170 --> 02:56:21,490
case that everybody said was the crappy case

5356
02:56:21,490 --> 02:56:22,530
of the four.

5357
02:56:22,690 --> 02:56:25,590
Remember, Donald Trump was indicted four times.

5358
02:56:25,590 --> 02:56:29,550
And this one was the least important, the

5359
02:56:29,550 --> 02:56:29,830
shakiest.

5360
02:56:30,650 --> 02:56:33,710
And yet it's the one case where Donald

5361
02:56:33,710 --> 02:56:34,870
Trump was held accountable.

5362
02:56:35,290 --> 02:56:37,370
The one case where he was brought to

5363
02:56:37,370 --> 02:56:39,970
trial before a jury of his peers in

5364
02:56:39,970 --> 02:56:42,210
his hometown of New York City and was

5365
02:56:42,210 --> 02:56:44,190
found guilty 34 times.

5366
02:56:44,370 --> 02:56:47,170
I think that is great punishment.

5367
02:56:47,470 --> 02:56:49,970
What's also great punishment is the sentencing today

5368
02:56:49,970 --> 02:56:52,430
where the judge said, you know, you're going

5369
02:56:52,430 --> 02:56:53,050
to be president.

5370
02:56:53,450 --> 02:56:54,710
You're not going to go to jail.

5371
02:56:54,710 --> 02:56:56,410
But you're a convicted felon.

5372
02:56:56,810 --> 02:56:59,310
And so for the rest of his life,

5373
02:56:59,630 --> 02:57:02,030
any story written about him will have to

5374
02:57:02,030 --> 02:57:03,550
mention the fact that he is a convicted

5375
02:57:03,550 --> 02:57:03,970
felon.

5376
02:57:04,090 --> 02:57:06,830
If not on the first reference, definitely by

5377
02:57:06,830 --> 02:57:07,790
the second reference.

5378
02:57:07,850 --> 02:57:10,270
And that is fitting, that is right, that

5379
02:57:10,270 --> 02:57:10,770
is just.

5380
02:57:11,350 --> 02:57:13,590
Do I wish the other three cases had

5381
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:15,150
gone to trial and that he had faced

5382
02:57:15,150 --> 02:57:16,570
accountability on those?

5383
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:18,190
Yes, but this will do.

5384
02:57:19,770 --> 02:57:20,910
What a creep.

5385
02:57:20,910 --> 02:57:24,130
Now, the thing is, what in the rule

5386
02:57:24,130 --> 02:57:26,750
book of journalism that you're talking to, you're

5387
02:57:26,750 --> 02:57:28,650
writing about somebody, you have to say they're

5388
02:57:28,650 --> 02:57:30,970
a convicted felon if they're a convicted felon.

5389
02:57:31,230 --> 02:57:33,870
In the prose, in the text.

5390
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:35,010
Where is that?

5391
02:57:35,150 --> 02:57:36,230
I've never heard of it.

5392
02:57:36,390 --> 02:57:38,390
Well, that's journalistically correct, John.

5393
02:57:38,530 --> 02:57:39,610
Certainly you know this.

5394
02:57:41,330 --> 02:57:43,050
It's journalist bull crap.

5395
02:57:43,190 --> 02:57:44,310
This guy's a liar.

5396
02:57:44,870 --> 02:57:46,710
You don't have to make a reference, but

5397
02:57:46,710 --> 02:57:47,710
they love doing it.

5398
02:57:49,290 --> 02:57:49,930
And again.

5399
02:57:50,990 --> 02:57:51,790
I'm sorry.

5400
02:57:52,130 --> 02:57:52,270
That's all right.

5401
02:57:52,270 --> 02:57:52,990
That's all right.

5402
02:57:53,510 --> 02:57:53,610
It was perfect.

5403
02:57:53,610 --> 02:57:55,370
Imagine all the people who could do this.

5404
02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:56,670
Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous.

5405
02:57:57,730 --> 02:58:00,430
Yeah, on the agenda.

5406
02:58:02,010 --> 02:58:03,290
In the morning.

5407
02:58:03,550 --> 02:58:04,550
We're out of sync, baby.

5408
02:58:04,710 --> 02:58:05,390
We're out of sync.

5409
02:58:06,090 --> 02:58:06,810
It happens.

5410
02:58:07,010 --> 02:58:08,630
We can't hit it all the time.

5411
02:58:08,810 --> 02:58:09,430
The show's too long.

5412
02:58:09,530 --> 02:58:10,210
We're out of sync.

5413
02:58:10,390 --> 02:58:10,790
It happens.

5414
02:58:10,810 --> 02:58:11,630
The show's too long.

5415
02:58:11,710 --> 02:58:12,270
We're out of time.

5416
02:58:12,310 --> 02:58:12,850
We're tired.

5417
02:58:13,450 --> 02:58:14,350
We're sloppy.

5418
02:58:15,210 --> 02:58:15,730
Sloppy.

5419
02:58:15,850 --> 02:58:17,150
The show is just sloppy.

5420
02:58:17,330 --> 02:58:17,710
That's right.

5421
02:58:17,790 --> 02:58:18,150
It's all right.

5422
02:58:18,270 --> 02:58:19,290
We'll fix it in post.

5423
02:58:19,430 --> 02:58:20,530
It'll sound great.

5424
02:58:20,870 --> 02:58:24,810
Edward Gellin starts us off with the donation

5425
02:58:24,810 --> 02:58:25,330
segment.

5426
02:58:26,150 --> 02:58:27,090
Yellen for Gellin.

5427
02:58:28,230 --> 02:58:29,270
124-33.

5428
02:58:30,370 --> 02:58:32,490
Radar Rider in Milton, Georgia.

5429
02:58:33,870 --> 02:58:34,910
120-25.

5430
02:58:35,650 --> 02:58:36,590
Needs a job as a car mechanic.

5431
02:58:36,670 --> 02:58:38,670
We'll give you that at the end if

5432
02:58:38,670 --> 02:58:39,350
Adam remembers.

5433
02:58:39,470 --> 02:58:41,450
Right on that little text pad.

5434
02:58:41,450 --> 02:58:43,590
Jared Cook in Manor, Texas.

5435
02:58:43,710 --> 02:58:43,970
100.

5436
02:58:44,370 --> 02:58:46,190
Kevin McLaughlin's there already.

5437
02:58:46,890 --> 02:58:47,470
8008.

5438
02:58:47,570 --> 02:58:47,890
Boobies.

5439
02:58:48,010 --> 02:58:48,830
The Archduke of Luna.

5440
02:58:48,950 --> 02:58:49,970
Lover of American boobs.

5441
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:50,670
He's on a roll.

5442
02:58:52,430 --> 02:58:54,190
Sir Lineman in Anna, Illinois.

5443
02:58:55,030 --> 02:58:56,310
Sir Lineman of the Net.

5444
02:58:56,410 --> 02:58:57,330
69-69.

5445
02:58:57,570 --> 02:58:58,530
And Nana Moose.

5446
02:59:00,410 --> 02:59:02,810
850 in Laurel Hill, Florida.

5447
02:59:03,290 --> 02:59:03,870
60.

5448
02:59:04,310 --> 02:59:05,510
Really getting down fast.

5449
02:59:05,890 --> 02:59:06,590
Sir Beeboop.

5450
02:59:06,870 --> 02:59:08,330
New Brighton, Minnesota.

5451
02:59:08,610 --> 02:59:08,910
Nuts.

5452
02:59:09,250 --> 02:59:10,570
56-78.

5453
02:59:12,670 --> 02:59:15,310
William Galt in Naples, Florida.

5454
02:59:15,530 --> 02:59:16,470
51-50.

5455
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:17,350
That's a switcheroo.

5456
02:59:17,910 --> 02:59:20,450
Oh, it's a switcheroo for convicted felon Donald

5457
02:59:20,450 --> 02:59:20,810
J.

5458
02:59:21,030 --> 02:59:21,350
Trump.

5459
02:59:25,160 --> 02:59:25,940
All right.

5460
02:59:27,160 --> 02:59:28,220
Yeah, 51-50.

5461
02:59:28,320 --> 02:59:30,800
It has some meaning there in the laws.

5462
02:59:31,040 --> 02:59:31,740
It means you're nuts.

5463
02:59:32,180 --> 02:59:32,700
You're insane.

5464
02:59:34,040 --> 02:59:35,640
Upbeats Musical Podcast.

5465
02:59:35,940 --> 02:59:37,580
Upbeats Musical Podcast.

5466
02:59:37,780 --> 02:59:39,960
Yeah, that's my buddy.

5467
02:59:40,160 --> 02:59:40,880
He's a great show.

5468
02:59:40,880 --> 02:59:42,860
He's in Copperus Cove.

5469
02:59:43,380 --> 02:59:45,040
Whatever you pronounce it in Texas.

5470
02:59:47,160 --> 02:59:48,040
51 dollars.

5471
02:59:48,160 --> 02:59:48,600
ITM.

5472
02:59:48,720 --> 02:59:51,240
It was that time to show my appreciation.

5473
02:59:51,680 --> 02:59:51,780
Okay.

5474
02:59:53,920 --> 02:59:54,800
Kevin McEnany.

5475
02:59:55,200 --> 02:59:57,800
McEnany in Deer Park, Wisconsin.

5476
02:59:58,760 --> 03:00:00,660
In honor of my husband, Kevin.

5477
03:00:00,840 --> 03:00:02,780
Oh, it's his wife that sent this in.

5478
03:00:02,840 --> 03:00:03,960
This was actually a switcheroo.

5479
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:07,140
In honor of my husband, Kevin, who loves

5480
03:00:07,140 --> 03:00:08,980
your show and makes me listen to it.

5481
03:00:08,980 --> 03:00:10,260
Now I love it too.

5482
03:00:13,240 --> 03:00:14,020
That's 50.

5483
03:00:14,060 --> 03:00:15,360
And the rest of these are all 50s.

5484
03:00:15,420 --> 03:00:16,680
I'm just going to name a location.

5485
03:00:18,940 --> 03:00:20,160
Starting with Kevin there.

5486
03:00:20,260 --> 03:00:22,320
Michelle Petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota.

5487
03:00:22,420 --> 03:00:25,380
Stephen Shumake in Xenia, Ohio.

5488
03:00:26,480 --> 03:00:28,440
Shannon in Citra, Florida.

5489
03:00:28,640 --> 03:00:30,840
And she has a heart icon in there.

5490
03:00:30,940 --> 03:00:31,960
Thanks, guys, she says.

5491
03:00:34,320 --> 03:00:39,240
John Akin, A-K-I-N, in Babson

5492
03:00:39,240 --> 03:00:40,120
Park, Florida.

5493
03:00:40,280 --> 03:00:41,060
Two Floridians.

5494
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:45,000
Tim DelVecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.

5495
03:00:45,300 --> 03:00:47,020
Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia.

5496
03:00:47,440 --> 03:00:50,660
Andrew Garasso in Mineola, New York.

5497
03:00:50,940 --> 03:00:54,360
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.

5498
03:00:54,860 --> 03:00:56,420
Michael A.

5499
03:00:56,760 --> 03:00:59,260
Friedle in Kansas City.

5500
03:01:00,160 --> 03:01:03,040
And he wants to call out Robert Friedle

5501
03:01:03,040 --> 03:01:04,460
as a douchebag.

5502
03:01:05,020 --> 03:01:05,580
Douchebag.

5503
03:01:06,900 --> 03:01:08,720
And Michael needs a de-douching.

5504
03:01:10,460 --> 03:01:12,160
You've been de-douched.

5505
03:01:13,120 --> 03:01:14,600
And on our very short list, this is

5506
03:01:14,600 --> 03:01:16,360
the shortest list we've had in two years.

5507
03:01:16,520 --> 03:01:18,440
28 total donors.

5508
03:01:20,120 --> 03:01:21,360
Shortest list in two years.

5509
03:01:21,520 --> 03:01:21,780
Wow.

5510
03:01:22,660 --> 03:01:22,800
28.

5511
03:01:23,140 --> 03:01:25,520
28 people out of a million listeners and

5512
03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:28,220
29,000 people on the mailing list.

5513
03:01:28,220 --> 03:01:28,840
28.

5514
03:01:29,400 --> 03:01:30,160
Yeah, I know.

5515
03:01:31,300 --> 03:01:33,200
Rachel comes in at the bottom of the

5516
03:01:33,200 --> 03:01:33,440
list.

5517
03:01:33,640 --> 03:01:38,920
She's Rachel Rotrammel, Rotrammel, Rotrammel, I think, in

5518
03:01:38,920 --> 03:01:40,220
Decatur, Illinois.

5519
03:01:40,420 --> 03:01:42,220
And she says, thanks for all you do.

5520
03:01:42,440 --> 03:01:43,900
And we thank her for the donation.

5521
03:01:44,100 --> 03:01:46,540
We want to thank everybody, actually, who helped

5522
03:01:46,540 --> 03:01:47,000
us do it.

5523
03:01:47,660 --> 03:01:48,780
That was the last one?

5524
03:01:49,580 --> 03:01:50,240
Yep, you're done.

5525
03:01:50,240 --> 03:01:50,520
Wow.

5526
03:01:50,680 --> 03:01:52,180
All right, thank you all very much.

5527
03:01:52,260 --> 03:01:53,840
And, of course, thanks to everybody who came

5528
03:01:53,840 --> 03:01:54,540
in under $50.

5529
03:01:54,540 --> 03:01:57,040
We never mention those for reasons of anonymity.

5530
03:01:57,180 --> 03:01:59,880
To ensure anonymity, I see you, $49, but

5531
03:01:59,880 --> 03:02:00,780
we can't read your note.

5532
03:02:01,400 --> 03:02:02,420
May have been a mistake.

5533
03:02:03,300 --> 03:02:05,120
And, of course, you can always set up

5534
03:02:05,120 --> 03:02:05,960
a recurring donation.

5535
03:02:06,140 --> 03:02:07,860
Go to noagendadonations.com.

5536
03:02:09,520 --> 03:02:12,160
Noagendadonations.com and set up a recurring donation.

5537
03:02:12,280 --> 03:02:14,580
Any amount, any frequency, you make it up.

5538
03:02:14,660 --> 03:02:15,880
It is value for value.

5539
03:02:16,340 --> 03:02:18,460
We appreciate all of our supporters for today,

5540
03:02:18,520 --> 03:02:20,820
our producers, and, of course, our executive and

5541
03:02:20,820 --> 03:02:24,160
associate executive producers for episode 1729.

5542
03:02:24,240 --> 03:02:25,660
As requested, Jobs Karma.

5543
03:02:25,840 --> 03:02:29,200
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

5544
03:02:29,280 --> 03:02:30,900
Let's vote for jobs.

5545
03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:32,900
Jobs Karma.

5546
03:02:33,340 --> 03:02:35,580
And for the first time in a long

5547
03:02:35,580 --> 03:02:37,420
time that I can remember, no birthdays.

5548
03:02:38,440 --> 03:02:39,640
No birthdays today.

5549
03:02:40,300 --> 03:02:40,800
Nothing.

5550
03:02:41,460 --> 03:02:43,040
Not a single birthday to celebrate.

5551
03:02:44,300 --> 03:02:45,340
Make babies, people.

5552
03:02:45,720 --> 03:02:46,720
It's time for some birthdays.

5553
03:02:47,060 --> 03:02:48,260
Yeah, we need more birthdays.

5554
03:02:48,260 --> 03:02:51,540
We do have one dame who will be

5555
03:02:51,540 --> 03:02:53,840
welcomed onto the podium today, so I will

5556
03:02:53,840 --> 03:02:54,360
grab.

5557
03:02:54,480 --> 03:02:55,740
I got a blade for her.

5558
03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:56,300
Okay.

5559
03:02:56,420 --> 03:02:58,220
Oh, you do have a blade for her.

5560
03:02:58,380 --> 03:02:58,900
That's right.

5561
03:03:00,120 --> 03:03:01,620
Come on up here.

5562
03:03:05,360 --> 03:03:05,800
Emily.

5563
03:03:06,140 --> 03:03:06,580
Wait a minute.

5564
03:03:06,660 --> 03:03:07,100
Where are you?

5565
03:03:07,320 --> 03:03:07,660
There you go.

5566
03:03:07,680 --> 03:03:08,380
Emily Bauer.

5567
03:03:08,540 --> 03:03:11,420
Emily, I'm not quite sure exactly what happened

5568
03:03:11,420 --> 03:03:11,600
here.

5569
03:03:11,660 --> 03:03:13,480
I don't have a note, but you today

5570
03:03:13,480 --> 03:03:16,020
will be branded as a dame of the

5571
03:03:16,020 --> 03:03:18,700
No Agenda Roundtable thanks to your support of

5572
03:03:18,700 --> 03:03:20,060
the show and the amount of $1,000

5573
03:03:20,060 --> 03:03:20,600
or more.

5574
03:03:20,700 --> 03:03:22,240
I'm very proud to pronounce the K-D

5575
03:03:22,240 --> 03:03:24,660
as Dame Emily of Eau Claire.

5576
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:27,540
And at the roundtable for you, we have

5577
03:03:27,540 --> 03:03:28,900
Rent Boys and Chardonnay.

5578
03:03:29,060 --> 03:03:29,860
You'd probably be into that.

5579
03:03:30,100 --> 03:03:32,460
If not, we've got Red Heads and Ryes.

5580
03:03:32,520 --> 03:03:34,220
We've got Vodka Manila, Bong Hits and Bourbon.

5581
03:03:34,760 --> 03:03:36,220
Sparkling Cider and Escorts.

5582
03:03:36,300 --> 03:03:37,540
We've got Ginger Ale and Gerbils.

5583
03:03:37,660 --> 03:03:38,900
We have Breast Milk and Pablum.

5584
03:03:39,000 --> 03:03:40,940
And as always, the Mud and the Mead.

5585
03:03:40,940 --> 03:03:44,620
Emily, head over to NoAgendaRings.com and take

5586
03:03:44,620 --> 03:03:47,220
a look at that beautiful knight and or

5587
03:03:47,220 --> 03:03:47,860
dame ring.

5588
03:03:47,960 --> 03:03:48,780
It's a signet ring.

5589
03:03:48,880 --> 03:03:50,840
That means that in the package that you

5590
03:03:50,840 --> 03:03:52,480
give us the address for and your ring

5591
03:03:52,480 --> 03:03:54,460
size, there is a handy ring sizing guide

5592
03:03:54,460 --> 03:03:55,760
at NoAgendaRings.com.

5593
03:03:55,900 --> 03:03:57,040
We will give you some wax.

5594
03:03:57,440 --> 03:03:59,040
With that, you can use the signet ring

5595
03:03:59,040 --> 03:04:01,740
to seal your important correspondence and as always,

5596
03:04:01,820 --> 03:04:04,020
a certificate of authenticity because this stuff is

5597
03:04:04,020 --> 03:04:04,700
real, yo.

5598
03:04:05,000 --> 03:04:08,480
Welcome to the roundtable, Dame Emily of Eau

5599
03:04:08,480 --> 03:04:08,820
Claire.

5600
03:04:08,820 --> 03:04:12,380
No Agenda Meetup.

5601
03:04:14,140 --> 03:04:15,480
It's like a party.

5602
03:04:15,980 --> 03:04:17,180
Like a party.

5603
03:04:17,820 --> 03:04:18,500
That's right.

5604
03:04:19,080 --> 03:04:19,920
Connection is protection.

5605
03:04:20,120 --> 03:04:21,760
When you go to a No Agenda Meetup,

5606
03:04:21,840 --> 03:04:23,960
the people you meet there will be your

5607
03:04:23,960 --> 03:04:25,560
first responders in an emergency.

5608
03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:27,680
They will keep you stable, which makes you

5609
03:04:27,680 --> 03:04:30,800
able and we have some meetup reports.

5610
03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:33,560
Very happy to report that the Los Angeles

5611
03:04:33,560 --> 03:04:35,240
meetup went on as planned.

5612
03:04:35,640 --> 03:04:37,260
Here's Leo Bravo with his report.

5613
03:04:37,260 --> 03:04:39,080
Hey, everybody.

5614
03:04:39,300 --> 03:04:41,220
It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 59.

5615
03:04:42,020 --> 03:04:44,000
I'm passing the phone around for our guests

5616
03:04:44,000 --> 03:04:45,320
to say some nice things.

5617
03:04:45,780 --> 03:04:47,420
In the morning, this is Angie on the

5618
03:04:47,420 --> 03:04:50,120
ranch and I listen to the end for

5619
03:04:50,120 --> 03:04:52,580
John's no tip of the day.

5620
03:04:53,260 --> 03:04:54,460
In the morning, folks.

5621
03:04:55,220 --> 03:04:57,520
Connection happens at the HMS Bounty.

5622
03:04:58,700 --> 03:04:59,440
It's B.

5623
03:04:59,500 --> 03:05:02,320
Dizzle from Altadena and my house burned down

5624
03:05:02,320 --> 03:05:03,600
to the ground and I still made it

5625
03:05:03,600 --> 03:05:04,660
here, so what's your excuse?

5626
03:05:05,380 --> 03:05:07,140
John and Adam, thank you for your courage.

5627
03:05:07,460 --> 03:05:08,880
Hey, this is John and Adam, Sir Leah

5628
03:05:08,880 --> 03:05:09,640
Kim Full Pop.

5629
03:05:09,800 --> 03:05:10,760
We didn't start the fire.

5630
03:05:10,860 --> 03:05:12,360
It was always burning since the world's been

5631
03:05:12,360 --> 03:05:12,720
turning.

5632
03:05:13,120 --> 03:05:14,300
Thank you for your courage.

5633
03:05:15,180 --> 03:05:18,360
Celebrating the quaddemic here in the fire capital

5634
03:05:18,360 --> 03:05:19,200
of the world.

5635
03:05:19,660 --> 03:05:20,040
LA!

5636
03:05:20,920 --> 03:05:21,540
In the morning.

5637
03:05:21,940 --> 03:05:22,800
In the morning!

5638
03:05:24,580 --> 03:05:27,380
All right, there's your Los Angeles producers.

5639
03:05:27,560 --> 03:05:28,800
Milwaukee, come on in.

5640
03:05:29,020 --> 03:05:30,360
John and Adam, hello.

5641
03:05:30,580 --> 03:05:31,420
This is Dennis.

5642
03:05:31,420 --> 03:05:34,480
And we are here at the Schlemiel Schlemazel

5643
03:05:34,480 --> 03:05:34,920
meetup.

5644
03:05:35,240 --> 03:05:35,800
In the morning.

5645
03:05:36,220 --> 03:05:37,840
Hey, it's Chris Fox from Hairball.

5646
03:05:38,140 --> 03:05:40,740
I'm here playing the Riverside and we have

5647
03:05:40,740 --> 03:05:41,660
a lovely meetup.

5648
03:05:41,780 --> 03:05:42,400
And in the morning.

5649
03:05:42,540 --> 03:05:42,860
Yay!

5650
03:05:44,180 --> 03:05:45,460
Jay from Green Bay.

5651
03:05:45,900 --> 03:05:49,260
Sir Stacker checking in for the Hairball meetup.

5652
03:05:49,840 --> 03:05:51,100
Making a difference.

5653
03:05:52,080 --> 03:05:54,340
Unaffiliated difference maker.

5654
03:05:54,700 --> 03:05:55,980
Hey John, in the morning.

5655
03:05:56,380 --> 03:05:57,820
This is Chris from Menomonee Falls.

5656
03:05:57,900 --> 03:05:59,080
Take your phone out of the drawer.

5657
03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:01,340
My name is Greg and we're here going

5658
03:06:01,340 --> 03:06:02,300
to the concert soon.

5659
03:06:02,480 --> 03:06:04,140
Hi Tia, this is Sir Camera Chris.

5660
03:06:04,280 --> 03:06:05,900
Is that a gravitic device in your pants

5661
03:06:05,900 --> 03:06:07,100
or just an alien probe?

5662
03:06:07,420 --> 03:06:08,600
Hey, it's the Baron of BNA.

5663
03:06:09,080 --> 03:06:10,620
Here in MKE.

5664
03:06:11,140 --> 03:06:11,880
In the morning.

5665
03:06:12,280 --> 03:06:13,640
Planes good, trains bad.

5666
03:06:13,960 --> 03:06:16,500
And then finally, we have quite the staple

5667
03:06:16,500 --> 03:06:18,000
of the No Agenda meetup scene.

5668
03:06:18,120 --> 03:06:19,080
Dirty Jersey Whore.

5669
03:06:19,440 --> 03:06:21,040
And he hosted the Yukon meetup.

5670
03:06:22,060 --> 03:06:23,340
You want the truth?

5671
03:06:24,040 --> 03:06:25,900
Yukon handle the truth.

5672
03:06:28,320 --> 03:06:31,100
Here we are at the Yukon No Agenda

5673
03:06:31,100 --> 03:06:31,700
meetup.

5674
03:06:32,240 --> 03:06:34,320
This is Dirty Jersey Whore just passing through.

5675
03:06:34,860 --> 03:06:37,000
Just thought I'd stop by and harass all

5676
03:06:37,000 --> 03:06:39,220
these wonderful people here in Oklahoma.

5677
03:06:39,900 --> 03:06:41,560
A.K.A. The Red Estate in the

5678
03:06:41,560 --> 03:06:41,840
Union.

5679
03:06:42,160 --> 03:06:43,560
Dave here in the morning everybody.

5680
03:06:43,960 --> 03:06:45,520
It is nice to be harassed sir.

5681
03:06:45,900 --> 03:06:47,980
This is Dame Cassidy Eastwood in the morning.

5682
03:06:48,280 --> 03:06:48,820
In the morning.

5683
03:06:49,160 --> 03:06:51,220
Matthew Littlesberger did not kill himself.

5684
03:06:51,620 --> 03:06:52,960
Thanks for coming to Yukon.

5685
03:06:53,560 --> 03:06:54,300
Carol Jolly.

5686
03:06:54,300 --> 03:06:55,760
This is Sir Knight.

5687
03:06:56,140 --> 03:06:57,500
No, Sir Price.

5688
03:06:58,160 --> 03:06:59,100
Not of astonishment.

5689
03:06:59,740 --> 03:07:03,420
Trains good, electric pickups bad.

5690
03:07:04,320 --> 03:07:05,240
In the morning.

5691
03:07:05,520 --> 03:07:06,980
In the morning from Dame Flipper.

5692
03:07:07,520 --> 03:07:08,500
This is Dame Raisenberg.

5693
03:07:09,140 --> 03:07:11,720
I am looking for my H1B replacement.

5694
03:07:12,340 --> 03:07:13,000
In the morning.

5695
03:07:13,100 --> 03:07:13,840
This is Grace.

5696
03:07:14,000 --> 03:07:15,700
If they can get you asking the wrong

5697
03:07:15,700 --> 03:07:18,180
questions, they don't have to worry about answers.

5698
03:07:18,640 --> 03:07:19,760
This is Hannah Nicholas.

5699
03:07:20,080 --> 03:07:21,400
Bird flu is not real.

5700
03:07:21,720 --> 03:07:23,740
Shout out to Millennial Media Offensive.

5701
03:07:23,740 --> 03:07:24,440
Tuesday night.

5702
03:07:24,840 --> 03:07:25,320
MMO.

5703
03:07:25,560 --> 03:07:26,720
All the offensive.

5704
03:07:26,920 --> 03:07:27,540
All the offensive.

5705
03:07:28,360 --> 03:07:29,880
In the morning.

5706
03:07:30,760 --> 03:07:31,240
Wow.

5707
03:07:31,500 --> 03:07:33,480
Sounds like a great meetup there.

5708
03:07:37,200 --> 03:07:39,900
Of course, many of these people and many

5709
03:07:39,900 --> 03:07:41,100
of those shows that were mentioned can be

5710
03:07:41,100 --> 03:07:42,420
found on the No Agenda stream.

5711
03:07:42,600 --> 03:07:44,600
We have the satellite skirmish coming up next,

5712
03:07:44,640 --> 03:07:45,780
but you're not done with this yet.

5713
03:07:45,840 --> 03:07:47,520
I want to remind you that we do

5714
03:07:47,520 --> 03:07:49,640
have meetups taking place today.

5715
03:07:49,880 --> 03:07:52,180
In fact, underway is the Blind Owl Brewery

5716
03:07:52,180 --> 03:07:52,980
Indianapolis.

5717
03:07:52,980 --> 03:07:55,140
That's the Indy NA Inaugurate.

5718
03:07:55,240 --> 03:07:57,000
Mark and Maria of the Greenwood are hosting

5719
03:07:57,000 --> 03:07:57,220
that.

5720
03:07:57,320 --> 03:07:58,740
We always get a nice meetup report from

5721
03:07:58,740 --> 03:07:58,940
them.

5722
03:07:59,040 --> 03:07:59,740
Too Many Eggs.

5723
03:08:00,460 --> 03:08:01,180
Keene, New Hampshire.

5724
03:08:02,000 --> 03:08:04,800
Underway as well at Margarita's Keene in Keene,

5725
03:08:04,960 --> 03:08:05,740
New Hampshire, of course.

5726
03:08:06,220 --> 03:08:10,220
The second Mountains and Rivers meetup is coming

5727
03:08:10,220 --> 03:08:10,480
up.

5728
03:08:10,580 --> 03:08:12,320
The Damn Restaurant and Bar today in South

5729
03:08:12,320 --> 03:08:14,460
Slocan, British Columbia, Canada.

5730
03:08:14,680 --> 03:08:15,960
Make sure you send a report.

5731
03:08:16,380 --> 03:08:18,160
Next Thursday, our next show day, the night

5732
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:21,500
of January 16th at 630, Lincoln's Roadhouse, Denver,

5733
03:08:21,640 --> 03:08:22,040
Colorado.

5734
03:08:22,220 --> 03:08:23,200
Servido hosting that.

5735
03:08:23,660 --> 03:08:26,060
Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday, 7 o'clock at

5736
03:08:26,060 --> 03:08:28,480
Edge Tavern on Thursday, of course, in Charlotte,

5737
03:08:28,600 --> 03:08:29,180
North Carolina.

5738
03:08:29,280 --> 03:08:33,480
Many more, including Buenos Aires on January 17th.

5739
03:08:33,480 --> 03:08:34,940
Make sure you send a meetup report.

5740
03:08:35,020 --> 03:08:37,080
We collect those from lands far away.

5741
03:08:37,580 --> 03:08:39,720
And you can go to noagendameetups.com to

5742
03:08:39,720 --> 03:08:40,720
find one near you.

5743
03:08:40,760 --> 03:08:42,620
If you can't find one, start one yourself.

5744
03:08:42,680 --> 03:08:44,420
It's easy and always a party.

5745
03:08:44,420 --> 03:08:47,580
Sometimes you want to go hang out with

5746
03:08:47,580 --> 03:08:50,260
all the nights and days.

5747
03:08:51,220 --> 03:08:53,880
You want to be where you won't be

5748
03:08:53,880 --> 03:08:56,000
triggered or held to blame.

5749
03:08:56,660 --> 03:08:59,760
You want to be where everybody feels the

5750
03:08:59,760 --> 03:09:01,120
same.

5751
03:09:02,140 --> 03:09:03,760
It's like a party.

5752
03:09:04,900 --> 03:09:07,800
I'm doing much better on the ISOs these

5753
03:09:07,800 --> 03:09:08,060
days.

5754
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:08,460
Okay.

5755
03:09:08,620 --> 03:09:09,880
Got a lot more ISOs.

5756
03:09:09,940 --> 03:09:10,620
Got much more.

5757
03:09:10,740 --> 03:09:11,260
Let me see.

5758
03:09:11,560 --> 03:09:12,720
I have this one.

5759
03:09:12,720 --> 03:09:15,160
That hurts my retinas every time.

5760
03:09:16,100 --> 03:09:18,200
I can't really hear it that well.

5761
03:09:18,420 --> 03:09:18,820
Can't hear it.

5762
03:09:19,000 --> 03:09:19,300
No.

5763
03:09:19,680 --> 03:09:20,580
Thank you for your time.

5764
03:09:21,560 --> 03:09:22,920
Thank you for your time.

5765
03:09:23,160 --> 03:09:24,040
I have this one.

5766
03:09:24,400 --> 03:09:27,040
It all seems very gay and happy, and

5767
03:09:27,040 --> 03:09:28,340
I am here to observe.

5768
03:09:28,500 --> 03:09:29,160
That's too long.

5769
03:09:29,240 --> 03:09:29,780
That's too long.

5770
03:09:29,960 --> 03:09:31,100
I have this one.

5771
03:09:31,240 --> 03:09:32,080
Take care of your neighbors.

5772
03:09:33,640 --> 03:09:35,380
And the one I think is kind of

5773
03:09:35,380 --> 03:09:35,840
worth it.

5774
03:09:35,960 --> 03:09:37,080
Gob-smackingly bananas.

5775
03:09:39,230 --> 03:09:40,590
I actually like that one.

5776
03:09:40,650 --> 03:09:40,910
Yeah.

5777
03:09:41,090 --> 03:09:41,310
Yeah.

5778
03:09:41,350 --> 03:09:42,610
Which was from the show.

5779
03:09:42,610 --> 03:09:42,990
What have we got here?

5780
03:09:43,150 --> 03:09:43,250
Okay.

5781
03:09:43,390 --> 03:09:43,750
All right.

5782
03:09:44,850 --> 03:09:45,310
Change.

5783
03:09:45,450 --> 03:09:47,450
I got two versions of this.

5784
03:09:47,710 --> 03:09:48,310
Change history.

5785
03:09:48,950 --> 03:09:49,130
Wow.

5786
03:09:49,250 --> 03:09:49,530
Oops.

5787
03:09:49,870 --> 03:09:52,850
This is going to be something that is

5788
03:09:52,850 --> 03:09:53,790
going to change history.

5789
03:09:53,990 --> 03:09:54,210
Gosh.

5790
03:09:54,270 --> 03:09:55,210
It's a little long, John.

5791
03:09:55,330 --> 03:09:55,810
Four seconds.

5792
03:09:55,850 --> 03:09:56,130
Yes.

5793
03:09:56,210 --> 03:09:58,410
That's why I edited down to number two.

5794
03:09:59,130 --> 03:09:59,590
Okay.

5795
03:09:59,990 --> 03:10:01,650
This is going to change history.

5796
03:10:02,650 --> 03:10:02,990
Yeah.

5797
03:10:03,150 --> 03:10:03,410
Yeah.

5798
03:10:03,550 --> 03:10:03,810
Yeah.

5799
03:10:03,990 --> 03:10:04,250
Yeah.

5800
03:10:04,390 --> 03:10:05,010
It's okay.

5801
03:10:05,170 --> 03:10:05,730
It's okay.

5802
03:10:06,050 --> 03:10:07,550
It's not bad.

5803
03:10:08,290 --> 03:10:10,130
I'm working on my editing skills.

5804
03:10:10,230 --> 03:10:10,890
Here's a wow.

5805
03:10:11,050 --> 03:10:11,430
Wow.

5806
03:10:11,430 --> 03:10:12,730
Excellent podcast.

5807
03:10:12,890 --> 03:10:13,890
Oh, goodness.

5808
03:10:14,850 --> 03:10:16,610
Just when I thought you wouldn't make it,

5809
03:10:16,770 --> 03:10:18,350
you wouldn't be able to compete with mine.

5810
03:10:18,490 --> 03:10:19,490
Gob-smackingly bananas.

5811
03:10:19,850 --> 03:10:20,230
Wow.

5812
03:10:20,390 --> 03:10:21,350
Excellent podcast.

5813
03:10:22,250 --> 03:10:23,270
Which one do you want?

5814
03:10:23,450 --> 03:10:24,370
They're both good.

5815
03:10:24,910 --> 03:10:25,570
Let's do them both.

5816
03:10:25,830 --> 03:10:26,990
No, we can't do both.

5817
03:10:28,530 --> 03:10:30,650
I'll take the wow.

5818
03:10:31,090 --> 03:10:31,510
Wow.

5819
03:10:31,690 --> 03:10:32,790
Excellent podcast.

5820
03:10:33,090 --> 03:10:33,190
Yeah.

5821
03:10:33,270 --> 03:10:34,610
But keep the other one in abeyance.

5822
03:10:35,170 --> 03:10:35,570
All right.

5823
03:10:35,610 --> 03:10:36,010
We will.

5824
03:10:36,090 --> 03:10:37,610
And now, ladies and gentlemen, it is time

5825
03:10:37,610 --> 03:10:39,190
for your favorite part of the show, John's

5826
03:10:39,190 --> 03:10:39,790
tip of the day.

5827
03:10:40,630 --> 03:10:43,230
Great advice from you and me.

5828
03:10:43,410 --> 03:10:46,470
Just the tip with JC Dean.

5829
03:10:46,850 --> 03:10:48,390
And sometimes Adam.

5830
03:10:49,030 --> 03:10:50,290
Created by Dana Burnetti.

5831
03:10:50,390 --> 03:10:51,730
And if you don't mind, this is one

5832
03:10:51,730 --> 03:10:55,090
of those sometimes Adam, sometimes Adam moments.

5833
03:10:55,650 --> 03:10:56,070
Oh, good.

5834
03:10:56,150 --> 03:10:56,890
Why don't you give yours?

5835
03:10:57,030 --> 03:10:59,030
I have a tip for a great gag

5836
03:10:59,030 --> 03:11:00,030
birthday gift.

5837
03:11:01,310 --> 03:11:01,850
Okay.

5838
03:11:02,370 --> 03:11:05,010
And the reason why is my- It's

5839
03:11:05,010 --> 03:11:06,050
a girl and a cake.

5840
03:11:06,050 --> 03:11:10,270
My stepdaughter, Elise, who lives in New York.

5841
03:11:10,350 --> 03:11:11,350
She just turned 28.

5842
03:11:12,230 --> 03:11:12,770
A Zoomer.

5843
03:11:12,910 --> 03:11:13,650
She is a Zoomer.

5844
03:11:13,770 --> 03:11:14,210
That's correct.

5845
03:11:14,850 --> 03:11:19,010
She was given a printed book, which her

5846
03:11:19,010 --> 03:11:20,630
friend took a lot of time and trouble

5847
03:11:20,630 --> 03:11:22,490
to go through to have it printed because

5848
03:11:22,490 --> 03:11:23,990
it's available on a PDF.

5849
03:11:24,870 --> 03:11:30,870
The Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden book, which

5850
03:11:30,870 --> 03:11:32,930
is a hilarious gag gift.

5851
03:11:32,930 --> 03:11:36,350
It has all the hooker pictures, the coke

5852
03:11:36,350 --> 03:11:36,950
pictures.

5853
03:11:37,250 --> 03:11:39,030
It has lists of all the stuff he

5854
03:11:39,030 --> 03:11:39,410
did.

5855
03:11:39,670 --> 03:11:43,030
It is a very funny gag gift, and

5856
03:11:43,030 --> 03:11:44,850
it's available as an EPUB.

5857
03:11:44,910 --> 03:11:46,690
You can download it, and then you can

5858
03:11:46,690 --> 03:11:49,530
have it bound, and people will appreciate this

5859
03:11:49,530 --> 03:11:51,130
gag gift if you give it to them.

5860
03:11:51,770 --> 03:11:52,930
Where do you download it?

5861
03:11:53,290 --> 03:11:54,530
The link in the show notes.

5862
03:11:55,590 --> 03:11:55,850
Okay.

5863
03:11:56,050 --> 03:11:56,970
You can just search for it.

5864
03:11:56,990 --> 03:11:57,670
That's not much of a gag.

5865
03:11:57,850 --> 03:11:58,990
I think it's a good gift.

5866
03:11:59,270 --> 03:12:01,010
Well, it's kind of a gag gift.

5867
03:12:01,010 --> 03:12:02,710
I mean, it is kind of a gag

5868
03:12:02,710 --> 03:12:03,030
gift.

5869
03:12:03,090 --> 03:12:03,970
It's a gag gift, man.

5870
03:12:04,010 --> 03:12:04,690
It's a gag gift.

5871
03:12:05,430 --> 03:12:05,750
It's good.

5872
03:12:05,910 --> 03:12:07,010
He was gagging a lot.

5873
03:12:07,190 --> 03:12:08,790
Hey, there it is.

5874
03:12:10,330 --> 03:12:12,070
Now, we have a tip that is so

5875
03:12:12,070 --> 03:12:13,490
good, you almost don't want to give it.

5876
03:12:13,530 --> 03:12:14,870
Yeah, I almost didn't want to do this.

5877
03:12:14,890 --> 03:12:16,490
I've been excited for the whole show.

5878
03:12:16,670 --> 03:12:19,630
If you remember in the early days of

5879
03:12:19,630 --> 03:12:22,510
the internet, all these phones, every phone company

5880
03:12:22,510 --> 03:12:24,310
came with their own yellow pages and their

5881
03:12:24,310 --> 03:12:25,570
search engines.

5882
03:12:25,650 --> 03:12:25,990
Wait a minute.

5883
03:12:26,150 --> 03:12:29,630
I'm actually in the printed yellow pages, the

5884
03:12:29,630 --> 03:12:30,670
internet yellow pages.

5885
03:12:30,670 --> 03:12:31,530
Do you remember that book?

5886
03:12:32,170 --> 03:12:33,330
Yeah, I remember that book.

5887
03:12:33,590 --> 03:12:33,790
Yeah.

5888
03:12:33,970 --> 03:12:35,850
They thought that people would want...

5889
03:12:35,850 --> 03:12:37,130
That was done by McGraw-Hill.

5890
03:12:37,290 --> 03:12:37,610
Yes.

5891
03:12:37,730 --> 03:12:40,010
People thought that they would want to have

5892
03:12:40,010 --> 03:12:40,870
a...

5893
03:12:40,870 --> 03:12:43,270
I had an imprint with that company at

5894
03:12:43,270 --> 03:12:43,590
the time.

5895
03:12:43,690 --> 03:12:44,270
I bet you did.

5896
03:12:45,070 --> 03:12:50,130
And so, that all went by the wayside.

5897
03:12:50,270 --> 03:12:51,150
And next thing you know, you got to

5898
03:12:51,150 --> 03:12:52,410
pay for every information.

5899
03:12:52,610 --> 03:12:55,010
You can't get phone numbers or information about

5900
03:12:55,010 --> 03:12:57,410
anybody anymore without having to go through rigamarole.

5901
03:12:57,590 --> 03:12:59,790
And it's just almost impossible, except for this

5902
03:12:59,790 --> 03:13:01,530
one search engine, I think.

5903
03:13:01,530 --> 03:13:02,390
Oh, boy.

5904
03:13:02,430 --> 03:13:03,710
And it doesn't work with the PBS.

5905
03:13:04,350 --> 03:13:04,790
Okay.

5906
03:13:05,430 --> 03:13:06,650
Did I say PBS?

5907
03:13:06,950 --> 03:13:07,830
I meant VPN.

5908
03:13:08,350 --> 03:13:09,390
You did say that.

5909
03:13:09,390 --> 03:13:10,670
It doesn't work with PBS either.

5910
03:13:11,050 --> 03:13:12,330
Nothing works with PBS.

5911
03:13:13,110 --> 03:13:16,370
It's called TruePeopleSearch.com.

5912
03:13:18,410 --> 03:13:18,790
Oh, wow.

5913
03:13:18,790 --> 03:13:21,210
And it'll give you where somebody lives, where

5914
03:13:21,210 --> 03:13:23,270
they lived before, who they're married to, where

5915
03:13:23,270 --> 03:13:25,650
they work in, what their phone number is,

5916
03:13:25,690 --> 03:13:27,410
what their email is, and on and on

5917
03:13:27,410 --> 03:13:27,670
and on.

5918
03:13:27,750 --> 03:13:29,430
And it's really good.

5919
03:13:29,790 --> 03:13:30,230
Hold on.

5920
03:13:30,230 --> 03:13:31,910
So, you can track down your old buddies

5921
03:13:31,910 --> 03:13:32,650
using this.

5922
03:13:33,750 --> 03:13:38,530
Now, that said, it's a little weak on

5923
03:13:38,530 --> 03:13:42,290
email addresses because they'll just cite a whole

5924
03:13:42,290 --> 03:13:43,270
bunch of email addresses.

5925
03:13:43,370 --> 03:13:45,330
And I have a secondary tip, which is

5926
03:13:45,330 --> 03:13:47,150
how to get somebody's email address.

5927
03:13:48,090 --> 03:13:50,130
You find like a source like this, it's

5928
03:13:50,130 --> 03:13:50,380
TruePeopleSearch.

5929
03:13:50,950 --> 03:13:51,730
You look yourself up.

5930
03:13:51,770 --> 03:13:53,470
You'll find yourself in there with your address.

5931
03:13:55,970 --> 03:13:58,790
You take all the email addresses and put

5932
03:13:58,790 --> 03:14:02,710
one of them in the two, versus two,

5933
03:14:02,830 --> 03:14:04,030
and you put the email address up there.

5934
03:14:04,350 --> 03:14:08,070
And then under BCC, you put the other

5935
03:14:08,070 --> 03:14:09,430
40 email addresses.

5936
03:14:10,870 --> 03:14:13,090
And so, the guy will get one or

5937
03:14:13,090 --> 03:14:15,150
two emails, but it doesn't look like you

5938
03:14:15,150 --> 03:14:17,110
have a blank carbon copy going in there.

5939
03:14:17,370 --> 03:14:19,490
And you'll get kickback notices of all the

5940
03:14:19,490 --> 03:14:20,110
bad ones.

5941
03:14:20,110 --> 03:14:23,230
And you could quickly isolate what the person's

5942
03:14:23,230 --> 03:14:25,990
real email address is using this technique.

5943
03:14:27,650 --> 03:14:28,210
Wow.

5944
03:14:28,630 --> 03:14:29,190
Wow.

5945
03:14:29,290 --> 03:14:30,110
This is horrible.

5946
03:14:31,210 --> 03:14:32,550
This is horrible.

5947
03:14:33,350 --> 03:14:35,610
This is absolutely horrible.

5948
03:14:36,230 --> 03:14:36,670
Yeah.

5949
03:14:37,410 --> 03:14:37,970
Wow.

5950
03:14:38,750 --> 03:14:40,090
That's why I was reluctant.

5951
03:14:40,590 --> 03:14:40,890
Yeah.

5952
03:14:40,910 --> 03:14:41,930
I can see why.

5953
03:14:42,110 --> 03:14:43,410
You're all over this thing.

5954
03:14:43,990 --> 03:14:44,330
Oh, yeah.

5955
03:14:44,370 --> 03:14:46,270
Luckily, I got houses more than once.

5956
03:14:46,470 --> 03:14:47,130
So, I can hide.

5957
03:14:47,130 --> 03:14:49,130
So, they can firebomb all of your houses.

5958
03:14:49,130 --> 03:14:49,870
This is great.

5959
03:14:51,590 --> 03:14:53,570
That is a horrible tip, John.

5960
03:14:53,710 --> 03:14:55,750
I don't know if I can appreciate this

5961
03:14:55,750 --> 03:14:56,850
tip that you gave everybody.

5962
03:14:57,970 --> 03:14:59,910
Well, I think it's a tip that needs

5963
03:14:59,910 --> 03:15:01,970
to be out there, because it saves money.

5964
03:15:02,190 --> 03:15:03,030
You can find people.

5965
03:15:03,290 --> 03:15:03,490
Yeah.

5966
03:15:03,610 --> 03:15:04,790
You can find their phone numbers.

5967
03:15:04,970 --> 03:15:05,750
Like Dana Brunetti.

5968
03:15:05,870 --> 03:15:06,610
Easy to find.

5969
03:15:06,770 --> 03:15:07,610
That's very cool.

5970
03:15:07,690 --> 03:15:08,250
I like it.

5971
03:15:09,210 --> 03:15:10,510
You can find their phone numbers.

5972
03:15:10,570 --> 03:15:11,890
You can find them and call them up.

5973
03:15:12,130 --> 03:15:12,570
Say hello.

5974
03:15:12,930 --> 03:15:13,570
Call them up.

5975
03:15:14,170 --> 03:15:14,690
Hey.

5976
03:15:16,730 --> 03:15:17,050
Okay.

5977
03:15:17,390 --> 03:15:17,830
There it is.

5978
03:15:17,910 --> 03:15:22,010
Your dangerous, very, very, very dangerous tip of

5979
03:15:22,010 --> 03:15:22,310
the day.

5980
03:15:22,470 --> 03:15:23,650
That is it from John C.

5981
03:15:23,750 --> 03:15:24,150
Dvorak.

5982
03:15:24,470 --> 03:15:27,070
Go to tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

5983
03:15:37,090 --> 03:15:38,390
There you go.

5984
03:15:39,630 --> 03:15:41,630
That is probably one of your best tips,

5985
03:15:41,790 --> 03:15:44,990
but also one of your most horrific tips.

5986
03:15:45,850 --> 03:15:47,590
That's why I said, I prefaced it.

5987
03:15:47,690 --> 03:15:48,010
You did.

5988
03:15:48,870 --> 03:15:49,190
You did.

5989
03:15:49,470 --> 03:15:51,330
How do I get off of that website

5990
03:15:51,330 --> 03:15:52,190
is my question.

5991
03:15:52,310 --> 03:15:53,430
That will be the next tip of the

5992
03:15:53,430 --> 03:15:53,670
day.

5993
03:15:55,650 --> 03:15:57,190
Probably not even possible.

5994
03:15:57,970 --> 03:15:59,490
Now, you can get off of the ones

5995
03:15:59,490 --> 03:16:01,150
that you have to pay to find people,

5996
03:16:01,450 --> 03:16:02,750
but this is a little rough.

5997
03:16:02,750 --> 03:16:03,450
But you know what, John?

5998
03:16:03,610 --> 03:16:04,690
TikTok is the problem.

5999
03:16:04,890 --> 03:16:05,730
That's the problem.

6000
03:16:06,010 --> 03:16:07,110
TikTok is the problem.

6001
03:16:07,110 --> 03:16:08,970
Not realpeoplesearch.com.

6002
03:16:10,690 --> 03:16:12,590
End of show mix is coming up from

6003
03:16:12,590 --> 03:16:13,250
Lee O.

6004
03:16:13,310 --> 03:16:13,730
LaPuke.

6005
03:16:13,810 --> 03:16:14,490
A great one.

6006
03:16:14,610 --> 03:16:17,310
Professor Jay Jones and Tom Starkweather, known as

6007
03:16:17,310 --> 03:16:18,210
Melodious Owls.

6008
03:16:18,290 --> 03:16:19,410
It is all dynamite.

6009
03:16:19,510 --> 03:16:22,090
Remember, we have the satellite skirmish coming up.

6010
03:16:22,210 --> 03:16:23,690
It will switch over seamlessly.

6011
03:16:24,350 --> 03:16:26,950
And coming to you from the place you

6012
03:16:26,950 --> 03:16:29,890
can find on realpeoplesearch.com, the heart of

6013
03:16:29,890 --> 03:16:30,890
the Texas Hill Country.

6014
03:16:31,010 --> 03:16:32,070
In the morning, everybody.

6015
03:16:32,370 --> 03:16:34,450
True people search so you don't get confused.

6016
03:16:35,010 --> 03:16:36,810
But I think he wants you to go

6017
03:16:36,810 --> 03:16:38,790
someplace else because he's in there, too.

6018
03:16:39,050 --> 03:16:39,870
In the morning, everybody.

6019
03:16:40,030 --> 03:16:40,810
I'm Adam Curry.

6020
03:16:41,290 --> 03:16:43,170
And from northern Silicon Valley where we still

6021
03:16:43,170 --> 03:16:44,870
do say gruesome, newsome.

6022
03:16:44,990 --> 03:16:45,850
And he's in this.

6023
03:16:45,990 --> 03:16:47,030
You can find him, too.

6024
03:16:47,750 --> 03:16:49,350
You can find his wife, everybody.

6025
03:16:49,530 --> 03:16:50,150
It's unbelievable.

6026
03:16:50,350 --> 03:16:50,850
I'm John C.

6027
03:16:50,890 --> 03:16:51,110
Duvoir.

6028
03:16:51,150 --> 03:16:52,310
We return on Thursday.

6029
03:16:52,590 --> 03:16:54,910
Remember us at knowagenthedonations.com.

6030
03:16:54,950 --> 03:16:58,530
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and

6031
03:16:58,530 --> 03:16:59,470
such.

6032
03:16:59,890 --> 03:17:01,750
I am the god of hellfire.

6033
03:17:02,230 --> 03:17:03,930
And I bring you fire.

6034
03:17:03,930 --> 03:17:05,530
What the hell?

6035
03:17:05,930 --> 03:17:06,390
Is it really?

6036
03:17:06,770 --> 03:17:08,710
Governor Newsom is right there.

6037
03:17:08,830 --> 03:17:09,930
Expecting the damage.

6038
03:17:11,010 --> 03:17:12,610
Look at this entourage.

6039
03:17:12,870 --> 03:17:16,670
We were not expecting a gruesome newsome appearance.

6040
03:17:18,550 --> 03:17:19,830
You're fired, sir.

6041
03:17:20,250 --> 03:17:21,150
Is that Gavin Newsom?

6042
03:17:21,450 --> 03:17:22,110
That's the governor.

6043
03:17:22,510 --> 03:17:23,310
That's the governor.

6044
03:17:25,310 --> 03:17:27,190
Governor, I live here, governor.

6045
03:17:27,910 --> 03:17:29,110
Please tell me what you're going to do.

6046
03:17:29,390 --> 03:17:31,850
I'm literally talking to the president right now.

6047
03:17:32,030 --> 03:17:32,690
Can I hear it?

6048
03:17:32,690 --> 03:17:34,090
Can I hear your call?

6049
03:17:34,170 --> 03:17:35,530
Because I don't believe it.

6050
03:17:36,290 --> 03:17:37,870
I have to get self-service.

6051
03:17:37,970 --> 03:17:38,770
Let's get it.

6052
03:17:38,830 --> 03:17:39,310
Let's get it.

6053
03:17:39,670 --> 03:17:40,790
I want to be here when you call

6054
03:17:40,790 --> 03:17:41,330
the president.

6055
03:17:41,690 --> 03:17:43,710
Why is there no water in the Hall

6056
03:17:43,710 --> 03:17:44,310
of Remembrance, governor?

6057
03:17:44,710 --> 03:17:46,170
Is it going to be different next time?

6058
03:17:46,510 --> 03:17:47,330
It has to be.

6059
03:17:47,950 --> 03:17:50,690
Burn sites rapidly green with opportunity.

6060
03:17:51,050 --> 03:17:53,550
Scientists marvel at their power of regeneration.

6061
03:17:53,990 --> 03:17:55,910
I say that's the California way.

6062
03:17:56,150 --> 03:17:58,390
As your governor, I promise you, whatever challenges

6063
03:17:58,390 --> 03:18:00,570
come our way, I will always lead the

6064
03:18:00,570 --> 03:18:01,450
California way.

6065
03:18:01,610 --> 03:18:04,990
Protecting our planet and always planting seeds for

6066
03:18:04,990 --> 03:18:05,410
the future.

6067
03:18:05,590 --> 03:18:07,630
Gavin Newsom makes me drier than a California

6068
03:18:07,630 --> 03:18:08,390
fire hydrant.

6069
03:18:08,490 --> 03:18:10,230
So if one dies, do not pet it.

6070
03:18:10,370 --> 03:18:12,010
I have one clip here about why.

6071
03:18:12,070 --> 03:18:14,090
Why would somebody want to do that?

6072
03:18:14,230 --> 03:18:14,850
Yeah, why?

6073
03:18:15,130 --> 03:18:16,010
I don't know.

6074
03:18:16,170 --> 03:18:17,910
Horowitz does it too, I might add.

6075
03:18:17,990 --> 03:18:20,130
Because we wanted to do that for the

6076
03:18:20,130 --> 03:18:21,610
same reasons why we don't want to do

6077
03:18:21,610 --> 03:18:22,190
it right now.

6078
03:18:22,230 --> 03:18:23,590
We want to do it for the same

6079
03:18:23,590 --> 03:18:24,910
reasons we don't want to do it.

6080
03:18:25,070 --> 03:18:25,470
Why?

6081
03:18:26,730 --> 03:18:27,290
Why?

6082
03:18:29,170 --> 03:18:29,730
Why?

6083
03:18:30,410 --> 03:18:34,930
Why, why, why?

6084
03:18:36,290 --> 03:18:37,410
That's correct!

6085
03:18:38,970 --> 03:18:40,930
Someone coming out and saying, yeah, I'm ex

6086
03:18:40,930 --> 03:18:42,550
-CIA, it's a plague.

6087
03:18:42,810 --> 03:18:43,710
Put it in the Redbook.

6088
03:18:44,050 --> 03:18:46,230
NGO official in Ukraine.

6089
03:18:46,670 --> 03:18:47,110
Why?

6090
03:18:47,810 --> 03:18:49,330
And then you should follow up by saying,

6091
03:18:49,410 --> 03:18:50,650
that's a great question.

6092
03:18:50,930 --> 03:18:53,170
You're either still CIA or you were never

6093
03:18:53,170 --> 03:18:53,670
CIA.

6094
03:18:53,670 --> 03:18:55,390
Okay, what is this?

6095
03:18:55,610 --> 03:18:57,690
I don't know, Horowitz does it too, I

6096
03:18:57,690 --> 03:18:58,310
might add.

6097
03:19:00,110 --> 03:19:01,870
This is why, Blake?

6098
03:19:01,990 --> 03:19:03,190
This is something new.

6099
03:19:03,430 --> 03:19:06,590
They've sent terrorists from Afghanistan, reason here why?

6100
03:19:06,910 --> 03:19:07,350
Why?

6101
03:19:07,490 --> 03:19:09,430
We have terrorists in this country that we

6102
03:19:09,430 --> 03:19:11,270
don't even know why they're trying to do

6103
03:19:11,270 --> 03:19:12,750
this against us because- I have one

6104
03:19:12,750 --> 03:19:14,590
question about why, why are we doing this?

6105
03:19:14,630 --> 03:19:15,850
Why would somebody want to do that?

6106
03:19:16,010 --> 03:19:16,590
Yeah, why?

6107
03:19:17,410 --> 03:19:18,650
Prozempic, that's correct.

6108
03:19:21,210 --> 03:19:22,990
This is why, Blake?

6109
03:19:22,990 --> 03:19:25,990
Let's leave Sarah Adams, known to be 10

6110
03:19:25,990 --> 03:19:29,170
% humanitarian, 90% warlord.

6111
03:19:29,290 --> 03:19:30,610
I don't believe it for a second.

6112
03:19:31,630 --> 03:19:35,110
Vaccines do not, repeat, do not cause autism.

6113
03:19:35,110 --> 03:19:35,430
Why?

6114
03:19:35,610 --> 03:19:36,730
Because it's a great question.

6115
03:19:36,730 --> 03:19:37,310
It's a great question.

6116
03:19:37,630 --> 03:19:38,690
What is the cure?

6117
03:19:39,330 --> 03:19:42,270
Sarah Adams, aka Superbad.

6118
03:19:42,550 --> 03:19:44,310
Why, why, why?

6119
03:19:46,330 --> 03:19:47,890
Massive skyrocketing cancer.

6120
03:19:48,210 --> 03:19:49,850
I still think there will be good relations

6121
03:19:49,850 --> 03:19:50,870
with President Trump.

6122
03:19:51,850 --> 03:19:55,070
Gavin Newsom had an opportunity to have millions

6123
03:19:55,070 --> 03:19:57,450
of gallons a week, a day.

6124
03:19:57,950 --> 03:20:00,250
Millions and millions of gallons come down from

6125
03:20:00,250 --> 03:20:00,510
the North.

6126
03:20:01,370 --> 03:20:03,690
Millions and millions of gallons come down from

6127
03:20:03,690 --> 03:20:04,070
the North.

6128
03:20:04,290 --> 03:20:05,330
Millions of gallons.

6129
03:20:05,510 --> 03:20:06,990
He said, I don't want to sign it.

6130
03:20:07,050 --> 03:20:07,770
I don't want the water.

6131
03:20:07,890 --> 03:20:08,750
We don't need the water.

6132
03:20:08,870 --> 03:20:09,850
I said, you need the water.

6133
03:20:10,070 --> 03:20:10,630
Millions of gallons.

6134
03:20:10,830 --> 03:20:11,450
You need the water.

6135
03:20:11,690 --> 03:20:13,930
There's so much water that they wouldn't know

6136
03:20:13,930 --> 03:20:14,410
what to do.

6137
03:20:14,570 --> 03:20:15,630
Millions of gallons.

6138
03:20:15,790 --> 03:20:17,650
I was going to give him unlimited water

6139
03:20:17,650 --> 03:20:19,290
with millions of gallons.

6140
03:20:19,530 --> 03:20:20,370
You need the water.

6141
03:20:20,370 --> 03:20:21,330
You need the water.

6142
03:20:21,550 --> 03:20:22,670
Millions of gallons.

6143
03:20:22,950 --> 03:20:25,190
There's so much water that they wouldn't know

6144
03:20:25,190 --> 03:20:25,830
what to do with.

6145
03:20:26,070 --> 03:20:27,230
Millions of gallons.

6146
03:20:27,590 --> 03:20:29,950
Millions and millions of gallons come down from

6147
03:20:29,950 --> 03:20:30,490
the North.