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Oh, there's no corruption in Mexico.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Devorah.

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It's Sunday, February 2nd, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Get My Nation

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Media Assassination episode 1735.

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This is no agenda.

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Bracing for drift and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas Hill Country here in

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FEMA Region Number 6.

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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's an

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atmospheric river.

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I don't know, I don't see it.

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I'm John C.

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Devorah.

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Is it that time again for the atmospheric

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river?

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Supposedly, I don't know, maybe it's hitting someplace.

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What's it supposed to bring?

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What does the atmospheric river bring?

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Oh, half a foot!

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Half a foot of what?

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Of rain?

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Half a foot of water.

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Of rain, oh.

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Half a foot?

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Yeah, but this has been going on since

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Friday night.

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Oh, it's going to be bad.

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Real bad.

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I have not seen it, I mean it's

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been, basically the humidity is 100% so

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everything's soaking.

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But there's no rain, it's just wet.

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Oh, because of the humidity.

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Well, I don't know, beyond that, I mean

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it's drizzling.

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I could say that you could call it

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drizzling, like massive drizzling, but it's not.

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But it's drizzling, it's ridiculous.

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Well, sticking with the climate change for just

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a moment, today is the day, February 2nd.

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It's a very special day, they've made movies

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about it.

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Mayor de Blasio killed one of them, but

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he's still here.

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Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the annual

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prediction from Punxsutawney Phil.

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye!

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This is a great American tradition, by the

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way.

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Now on this February 2nd, Punxsutawney Phil, the

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seer of seers, the prognosticator of all prognosticators,

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was awakened from his wintry nap at dawn

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on Gobbler's Knob.

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Gobbler's Knob?

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First a look to the skies, and then,

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speaking in Groundhog Day, In the UK, Gobbler's

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Knob means something very different.

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He's directed the president to the proper scroll,

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which reads, What a way to start a

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Sunday fun day.

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Yeah!

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You always said you'd make it here one

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day.

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To this place, barely big enough to contain

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ya.

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Get to it!

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To this sweet Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania.

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We're all here, with the elements combined.

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Where mother nature meets father time.

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Yeah, let's go.

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To hear the truth, are those gray skies?

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Only I know you can't trust AI.

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It's Groundhog Day, and maybe life is on

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a loop.

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But I miss my burrow.

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I miss my coop.

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So I'm headed back down.

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There's a shadow up here.

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Get ready for six more weeks of winter

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this year!

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Woo!

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Yeah!

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Yeah!

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So that stupid Groundhog has only been right

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39% of the time.

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I mean, a flip of the coin is

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better.

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Yeah, and the logic doesn't make any sense,

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if you think about it.

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Yeah, if it's sunny is when you think

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he'd be, Oh, it's good weather.

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Why do we do this?

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I used to write about, in fact, I

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used to put this in a newsletter, and

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I used to, when I was writing for

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the Examiner, I was...

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Is that the San Francisco Examiner?

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Yeah, the one-time San Francisco Examiner.

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Became the, merged with the Chronicle eventually.

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But I would always put a recipe for

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Groundhog stew into the newspaper.

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There are recipes.

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There's a good book called...

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Wait a minute.

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Groundhog stew for actual ground-up Groundhog?

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I don't remember how the recipe goes.

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I don't think you have to grind him

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necessarily.

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But I will say this.

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Like a brisket, put him on the pit

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boss.

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For people out there looking for something to

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read that's entertaining, there's a, I think it

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came out of the, one of the colleges

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back east, maybe North Carolina, actually.

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It's a book called Unmentionable Cuisine.

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And it was published in the 70s.

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And Unmentionable Cuisine has recipes for everything.

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Oh, stuff like...

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Ants, rats.

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Road, what do you call it?

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Roadkill.

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Roadkill.

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They have recipes for everything.

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And they have the real burgoo recipe, which

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is a squirrel stew.

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Well, I'm thinking this is something for Gateview

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I mean, you read TooManyEggs.com.

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Now we're back for the sequel.

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Groundhogs, squirrels, ants, you name it.

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We just need to come up with a

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good name.

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People would buy that.

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People would buy that.

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With the plug I just gave that book,

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the old book, if they get two sales,

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it'll be a miracle.

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But it does bring me to what I

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was going to think was going to be

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the clip of the day.

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We're talking about food.

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Yeah.

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Which is my TikTok clip, Black History.

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You're going to start with TikTok right off

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the bat?

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Black History Girl.

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You know that this wasn't common knowledge.

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And if you didn't know this, that means

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you don't follow me.

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But white people have always indulged in cannibalism.

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They ate their slaves and they ate black

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people that were free after the Emancipation Proclamation,

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after lynchings.

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If you didn't know this, you don't follow

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me.

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And if you don't follow me, you should

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follow me.

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My name's Chemistry.

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I teach black history.

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And just like everything else on my page,

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I'm not just feeding you a bunch of

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bullshit.

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There are a plethora of books that you

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can look into that proves that this is

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a fact.

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Books like The Delectable Negro, which covers recipes

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of how to eat black people.

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Another book called Edible People.

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The Historical Consumption of Negroes and Foreigners.

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And I believe it was like The Cannibalistic

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Trade.

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And that's just two of many.

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But yeah, if you want to know more

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about this topic, if you scroll down on

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my page, I have a video called White

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People Ate Black People.

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It's very, very informative.

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All right, all right.

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I owe him a call anyway.

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I got to call Mo about this.

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Let me find out.

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I got to go straight to the source,

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find out if this is true or not.

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Somebody, the comments on this particular woman was

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pretty interesting, because I guess the first book

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she mentions is actually just some sort of

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homoerotic tale.

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And it has nothing to do with anything.

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More like a Jeffrey Dahmer type deal?

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Yeah, kind of.

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Well, it is, of course, Black History Month.

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Yeah, that's why I played that clip.

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Yeah, it was good.

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It wasn't clip of the day, but it

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was good.

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I didn't expect to get it.

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You can't roll out the clip of the

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day right away, although you have done that.

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It happens from time to time.

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This, of course, is the shortest month of

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the calendar year, which Mo always complains about.

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Thanks.

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He says, thanks, give us the shortest month.

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But the timing of everything was really impeccable.

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And I am going to give you props.

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I think you were spot on.

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Well, you already called it right after the

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election.

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You said the Democrat Party of the United

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States are going to die on the hill

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of, I'll just collectively say DEI, LGBTQ goes

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in there.

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Everything is in there.

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And I know that you have the clips,

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but to lead up to it, and it's

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cynical to think this way, but I think

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President Trump figured this out.

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He honeypotted the Democrat Party by coming out

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after the horrific D.C.A. air crash.

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Yeah, I think so, too.

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And now he may have some, I mean,

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there's a lot of information coming out about

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the third pilot.

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She was a woman.

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He was like, oh, only 450 hours.

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He's like, simmer down, everybody.

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If you have 450 consecutive hours, you're going

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to be a pretty good pilot.

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I thought she had 500.

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Well, 500.

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There's a saying in aviation, the most dangerous

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moment for a pilot is 300 hours, because

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then you kind of think you got it

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all down and everything.

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But if you're doing four, four and 50,

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500 consecutive hours of training on type, you're

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going to be a good pilot.

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I've flown with female military, marine pilots.

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You know, there's no reason to think they're

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better or worse than any other.

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You know, now there's a lot of question.

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Why did they withhold her name?

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Why did they scrub her social media?

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It's fine.

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It doesn't really matter.

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What matters is that the colloquial left has

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taken what Trump said and is just running

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with the ball in all kinds of crazy

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directions.

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And the most insane was Smirkonish on CNN,

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who is going to...

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Well, here's his claim.

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This all coming after the tragic Black Hawk

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and American Airlines collision that killed 67 people

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near Reagan National Airport on Wednesday night.

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A chilling collision above the Potomac, upended after

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the consular-in-chief pivoted and began playing

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the blame game and speculating while providing no

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evidence that diversity and hiring policies of prior

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administrations somehow caused this tragedy.

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The FAA's website states they include hearing, vision,

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missing, extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe

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intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualify

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for the position of a controller of airplanes.

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The FAA website shows that the agency's guidance

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on diversity hiring were last updated on March

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They wanted to make it even more so.

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And then I came in, and I assume

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maybe this is the reason.

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The FAA, which is overseen by Secretary Pete

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Buttigieg, a real winner.

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Now we'll circle around to the air traffic

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controllers later after your clips.

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I want to say up front that none

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of these, the problem with air traffic controllers,

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they can't actually qualify anybody to become an

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air traffic controller.

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So the issue now, as we know, we

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have many air traffic controllers in Gitmo Nation.

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They're overworked.

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Because of these stupid qualifications, no one is

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good enough.

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No one gets certified.

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No one gets through to become an actual

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air traffic controller.

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So the danger is not in a DEI

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hire controlling traffic in our airspace.

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The danger is there's not enough of them

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because of the policy.

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Staffing is the danger.

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Staffing.

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Now, so here is Smirkonish's take on why

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the president did this.

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Despite any evidence supporting his conjecture, the president

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doubled down.

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And with the support of the vice president,

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the secretary of defense, the secretary of transportation,

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he produced a shiny object.

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DEI, which dominated the Thursday news cycle.

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A debate over DEI now filled airspace that

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would otherwise have been focused on the confirmation

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hearings occurring that day on Capitol Hill featuring

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the most controversial remaining nominees of President Trump.

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There was Tulsi Gabbard, tapped to be Trump's

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director of national intelligence, who refused to say

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whether or not she thinks Edward Snowden is

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a traitor.

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FBI director nominee Kash Patel, who fielded questions

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about a retribution and enemies list.

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RFK Jr., Trump's nominee to be the next

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secretary of health and human services, seemed to

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struggle a bit when answering a basic question

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about Medicare.

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Three nominees who could potentially be in charge

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of our security and health, they all took

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a back seat to a torrent of unproven

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rhetoric and speculation.

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That night, President Trump's unfounded speculation about DEI

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was welcomed on Fox News.

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And no doubt, many Americans working jobs with

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limited bandwidth to verify their information, they went

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to bed thinking 67 people died because of

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a government initiative which they think discriminates against

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whites and had caused some unfit minority to

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get hired for a job, resulting in negligence

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and costing lives.

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I'm too cynical to accept coincidence.

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I think President Trump wanted to own the

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news cycle, like he wants to own every

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news cycle.

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And this time, he sought the added political

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benefit of raising questions over whether a minority

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was at fault for the D.C. catastrophe.

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So, no, he never said minority, but here's

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the crazy thing.

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So, smirkonish his complaint.

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This is CNN at work.

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His complaint is that Trump did this, President

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Trump did this, to distract from the nominee

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hearings and to just make sure no one

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knows what's going on with these crazy people.

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And subsequently, he goes on to do one

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of his stupid polls about this DEI stuff

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instead of talking about the thing he says

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we're being distracted from.

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It brings me to today's poll question at

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smirkonish.com.

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Do you believe President Trump's blaming of DEI

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for the Washington crash was a deliberate attempt

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to shift focus from the congressional confirmation hearings?

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Well, what do you think?

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What do you think his phony baloney poll

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would say?

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Well, with the CNN audience, and since we

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already know that these polls are phony baloney.

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Bogus.

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It definitely is, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's got to be a big yes.

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All right, there's the voting so far at

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smirkonish.com.

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Wow, round numbers.

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Wow, round numbers.

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70-30 yes.

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What are the chances?

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Exact round numbers.

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Nearly 40,000 have voted agreeing with me

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that the whole The whole audience, wow.

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What he should have said, this is a

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record.

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The entire audience voted.

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We've never had this happen before.

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Agreeing with me that the whole injection into

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the conversation of DEI in the aftermath of

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that catastrophe was just a shiny object to

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take our attention away from the Capitol Hill

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hearings.

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I'm not often in the majority on my

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polls.

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I'm not even sure what to say right

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now.

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Oh, yes.

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And then he went on.

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That seems unlikely.

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He doesn't know what to say.

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He went on.

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He went on and on and on.

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And I want to play one more before

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you get to your DNC clips, because that

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was just amazing what happened there.

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Here's Capehart doing his thing.

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Now turning to President Trump's response to this

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major tragedy.

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Just a day after the aircraft collision, Trump

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blamed, without any evidence, his familiar scapegoats, the

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previous administrations and DEI.

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I put safety first.

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Obama, Biden, and the Democrats put policy first.

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And they put politics at a level that

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nobody's ever seen.

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They put a big push to put diversity

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into the FAA's program.

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They actually came out with a directive to

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white.

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And we want the people that are competent.

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I'm trying to figure out how you can

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come to the conclusion right now that diversity

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had something to do with this crash.

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Because I have common sense, okay?

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No, not okay.

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Not okay.

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And let's fact check President Trump's assertion.

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According to the Federal Aviation Administration, there are

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rigorous standards for hiring pilots, mechanics, and air

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traffic controllers.

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And there is no evidence that those standards

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were lowered to diversity goals.

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So folks, let's call out the President's response

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for what it really is, racist.

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It's racist now.

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Capehart is great.

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So they fell for it.

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And this, as cynical as it is, I

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really believe the President made a very calculated,

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smart move.

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It is an issue.

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It has been an issue.

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The workforce is not large enough for the

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air traffic controllers.

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But he does this on the eve of

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this DNC nominating process.

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And subsequently, the M5M falls for it.

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They just fall for it.

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And every single American identifies with an air

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disaster.

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And they don't care.

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I mean, I'm sure if you go out

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on the street and talk to Democrats, they'd

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be like, would you like a DEI hired

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to be running the ATC?

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They'll all say no.

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They may lie to you in front of

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the camera, but you know how everyone feels.

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It was a genius move, cynical, but a

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genius move.

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I like the idea that it's cynical, because

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I'm not thinking in those terms with Trump,

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but I think I can do that.

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I think I can think that he's cynical

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and he's, in this case, exploitative.

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Yes.

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And he doesn't care.

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He's not running for re-election, so he

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does stuff.

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Yeah.

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And he's going to do stuff for the

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next four years that's going to drive people

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nuts.

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I have some clips about that, too.

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But give me the DNC, because I'm just

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so excited.

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Before we go too far astray, I don't

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want to lose out on the Hegseth issue

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about, since you mentioned Black History Month, before

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you got into that clip.

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Yeah.

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And I have to play this.

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This is Hegseth.

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Sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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You play it, yeah.

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Hours before the start of Black History Month,

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the Defense Department declared cultural awareness months at

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the Pentagon dead.

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Dead?

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said celebrations of Black

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History Month, Women's History Month, and the like

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divide the force and erode camaraderie.

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He went on to say service members may

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only attend these celebrations in an unofficial capacity.

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The guidance is effective immediately.

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I like that he calls it camaraderie.

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I think it's camaraderie.

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Anyway.

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Yeah.

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Well, they canceled all of it.

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That's interesting.

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You know, I have pronounced it both ways,

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too.

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But he canceled all of the and the

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like.

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No, he just canceled it all.

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This guy is a short timer.

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I guarantee it.

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You think?

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I think I'm digging him so far.

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I like him, but he's got if he

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goes two years, I'll be stunned.

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OK.

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OK.

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And that's because it is just that the

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pushback will be just outrageous because people it's

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just too much.

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It's too much for these guys.

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So the DNC had their little shindig and

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it was played on MSNBC for some.

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You know what?

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It was their deal.

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It was it was their whole.

519
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I mean, it showed the complete collusion between

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the two.

521
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Oh, yes.

522
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They had Joy Reid.

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Capehart was there.

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Your buddy Capehart.

525
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My buddy.

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And then the redhead.

527
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Yes.

528
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Psaki.

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Psaki.

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Psaki.

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Everybody was there.

532
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So they had a bunch of people.

533
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David Hogg was there and he ran for.

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I'm going to start with the easy ones

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and go to the best one at the

536
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end.

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So I got one and one, two.

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One, two, three, four.

539
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I got a lot of clips, but they're

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short.

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David Hogg is who ended up getting the

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getting the number of votes to get the

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vice chair.

544
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Let's remind everybody who David Hogg is.

545
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David Hogg is this character that came out

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of the Parkland shooting in Florida.

547
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Yeah.

548
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And he became kind of a quasi celebrity

549
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amongst the Democrats, and he is an anti

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-gun guy.

551
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Kid.

552
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He's still, I think, a kid.

553
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He's in his early 20s, I think.

554
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Early 20s.

555
00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:47,840
Yeah, he's in his 20s.

556
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,700
And he is kind of a kind of

557
00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:52,720
a he's not as bad as some of

558
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,080
these guys, but he's one of these kind

559
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,600
of you would call him a kind of

560
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,060
a beta.

561
00:19:56,260 --> 00:19:57,940
You call him a crisis actor, John.

562
00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,000
That's a beta male.

563
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,540
He's gotten really good.

564
00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:04,080
He reminds me of Ike on the troll

565
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,160
room is going to have to come up

566
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,360
with this name because I was trying to

567
00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,240
think of it the other day.

568
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,640
And normally I can come up with these

569
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,000
names.

570
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,220
The guy used to be a right winger

571
00:20:15,220 --> 00:20:18,560
kind of a kind of a I don't

572
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,860
know if you call him handsome, but he's

573
00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:21,360
a very presentable guy.

574
00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:23,420
Very saw a young guy.

575
00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:26,840
And it was a Christian character who pushed

576
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,700
and pushed and pushed.

577
00:20:27,820 --> 00:20:30,120
He was he had he was he's did

578
00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:32,160
a lot of grassroots stuff, a lot of

579
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,700
the guy with the long hair.

580
00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:36,640
No, he didn't have long hair.

581
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,580
He was well quaffed.

582
00:20:40,620 --> 00:20:42,960
He and he's young looking.

583
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,840
Name was a Christopher.

584
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,700
So I just can't remember his name.

585
00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:48,920
And he got busted for being with a

586
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,200
whore or something.

587
00:20:50,260 --> 00:20:52,340
I don't remember the exact problem.

588
00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:55,020
He ended up with some chick that involves

589
00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:57,900
something or scarf with some money.

590
00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:00,180
There was some scandal and he just disappeared

591
00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:01,920
off the face of the troll room is

592
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,360
suggesting John Stamos.

593
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,720
But I don't think that is correct.

594
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:06,600
Yeah.

595
00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:07,440
Well, that's the best thing.

596
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,680
I'll come up with this guy.

597
00:21:08,780 --> 00:21:10,460
But this guy reminds me of that kind

598
00:21:10,460 --> 00:21:12,820
of guy because he's he and only because

599
00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:13,440
of the pattern.

600
00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:17,180
He's picked up a professional politician's pattern, this

601
00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:17,780
hog guy.

602
00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:18,940
And here he is.

603
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,020
This is the DNC David Hockley where he's

604
00:21:21,020 --> 00:21:23,680
promoting himself to be the vice chair.

605
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:30,450
Are you ready to go have to win

606
00:21:30,450 --> 00:21:31,310
back our young people?

607
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:33,410
I am the only candidate in this race

608
00:21:33,410 --> 00:21:35,390
for any of these positions that is under

609
00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:35,850
30.

610
00:21:36,190 --> 00:21:38,570
We had a 20 point shift to the

611
00:21:38,570 --> 00:21:39,610
right of our young people.

612
00:21:39,910 --> 00:21:43,470
We must show our young people we give

613
00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:45,690
a damn about them, that we support them

614
00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:46,890
and we invest in them.

615
00:21:47,230 --> 00:21:49,150
I have raised over 11 million dollars in

616
00:21:49,150 --> 00:21:51,070
the past year to support the future of

617
00:21:51,070 --> 00:21:52,690
our party because I don't just tweet.

618
00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:54,590
I don't just talk the talk.

619
00:21:54,930 --> 00:21:56,630
I also walk the walk and I knock

620
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:58,190
the knock indoors across the country.

621
00:21:58,190 --> 00:21:59,670
But I'm counting on you in this moment

622
00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:00,410
right now.

623
00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:03,210
I need your support.

624
00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:04,210
Please vote for me.

625
00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:05,450
Thank you so much.

626
00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:07,030
Nice.

627
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:08,570
I walk the walk.

628
00:22:08,590 --> 00:22:09,530
I talk the talk.

629
00:22:09,550 --> 00:22:10,630
I knock the knock.

630
00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:12,050
Got an attitude for gratitude.

631
00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:13,190
Connection is protection.

632
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:14,150
Woo, baby.

633
00:22:15,030 --> 00:22:15,810
He's a DJ.

634
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:16,330
For gratitude.

635
00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:17,990
He's a DJ.

636
00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:21,590
He should have Darin write some material for

637
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:21,690
him.

638
00:22:21,850 --> 00:22:22,350
That's right.

639
00:22:22,810 --> 00:22:24,210
Yeah, he needs it desperately.

640
00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:26,330
And he actually got the votes, huh?

641
00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:28,970
He got the votes, yeah.

642
00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:31,070
So he and another guy both got the

643
00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:31,270
votes.

644
00:22:31,410 --> 00:22:33,530
So there's two co-chairs, I guess.

645
00:22:36,290 --> 00:22:41,070
Now I have, here's the typical is what's

646
00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:43,030
going on and you gave me a little

647
00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:45,450
kudos earlier for predicting some of this.

648
00:22:46,130 --> 00:22:48,230
But the hill the Democrats are going to

649
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:50,030
die on includes what we're going to hear

650
00:22:50,030 --> 00:22:50,290
here.

651
00:22:50,410 --> 00:22:52,990
This is a section where the guy comes

652
00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:55,290
on with the, with some rules.

653
00:22:55,550 --> 00:22:57,850
Yeah, this is the, his name is gender

654
00:22:57,850 --> 00:22:58,250
rules.

655
00:22:58,570 --> 00:23:01,570
His name is, what's his name?

656
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:02,110
Hold on a second.

657
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:02,790
I have it here.

658
00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:08,970
He is, I can't remember his name.

659
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,540
Well, that's okay.

660
00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:13,180
It's not important.

661
00:23:13,180 --> 00:23:16,400
He's going on and on about gender rules.

662
00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:17,720
Jamie Harrison.

663
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:18,300
That's who he is.

664
00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:19,020
Jamie Harrison.

665
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,240
Rules specify that when we have a gender

666
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,840
non-binary candidate or officer, the non-binary

667
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,540
individual is counted as neither male nor female

668
00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:31,840
and the remaining six offices must be gender

669
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,360
balanced.

670
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,440
Okay, I'm following.

671
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:35,960
With the results of the previous four elections,

672
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:40,360
our elected officers are currently two male and

673
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:41,020
two female.

674
00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:45,180
In order to be gender balanced, we must,

675
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:52,640
we must elect one male, one female, and

676
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,360
one person of any gender.

677
00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:57,620
So again, this is what we have to

678
00:23:57,620 --> 00:23:59,780
do for this vice chair race.

679
00:24:00,220 --> 00:24:02,620
We have to elect one male, one female,

680
00:24:02,860 --> 00:24:04,880
and one person of any gender.

681
00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:08,920
To ensure our process accounts for male, female,

682
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,040
and non-binary candidates, we conferred with our

683
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,960
RBC co-chair, our LGBT caucus co-chair,

684
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,360
and others to ensure that the process is

685
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,960
inclusive and meets the gender balance requirements in

686
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,360
our rules.

687
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,420
To do this, our process will be slightly

688
00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,360
different than the one outlined to you earlier

689
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:25,840
this week.

690
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,680
But I hope you will see that in

691
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,660
practice, it is simple and transparent.

692
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,040
The order of balloting is designed to ensure

693
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,180
equal access to the ballot, regardless of gender

694
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:36,640
identity.

695
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,620
As we must elect a candidate of any

696
00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,920
gender as well as one male and one

697
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,900
female vice chair, we will first ask members

698
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,060
to elect a candidate of any gender on

699
00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:47,900
the first ballot.

700
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,740
Any candidate, male, female, and non-binary, can

701
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:53,120
be elected on that ballot.

702
00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:56,260
After a candidate is elected on the first

703
00:24:56,260 --> 00:25:01,580
ballot, we'll have one officer of the three,

704
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,540
so we will not, so then we will

705
00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:06,480
know which position is filled of the one

706
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,820
male, one female, and one vice chair of

707
00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:09,300
any gender.

708
00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:13,000
Our second ballot would also be for a

709
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,100
candidate of any gender.

710
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,140
Then our third ballot will be the third

711
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:19,360
position that is remaining based on the two

712
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:19,880
results.

713
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,640
Either a male candidate, if a candidate that

714
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,480
is not male has not been elected, or

715
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,440
a female candidate, if a female has not

716
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,940
been elected.

717
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:28,380
Dude.

718
00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:30,960
And the crazy thing is, they picked two

719
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,040
cracker white guys.

720
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,540
Everyone said cracker white guy.

721
00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:35,580
That's the funny thing.

722
00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:38,960
But did you see some of the candidates

723
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,160
who were up there and saying, vote for

724
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,460
me?

725
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,240
Well, that's where the kicker will come in.

726
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:45,760
Oh, okay.

727
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,260
All right.

728
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,040
I'll leave it to you.

729
00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:48,860
You don't have to coach me on this.

730
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:52,000
I got the goods, because one of our

731
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,580
guys, one of our producers sent me the

732
00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:55,480
good rundown.

733
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,700
Was it Madison Cawthorn who you're thinking of,

734
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,120
who wound up in the wheelchair, and then

735
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,040
was at sex parties?

736
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,380
Was that the one you're thinking of?

737
00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:04,800
No, no, no.

738
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:06,200
This guy was, oh, man.

739
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:08,320
Milo Yiannopoulos?

740
00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:11,140
No, he's not gay.

741
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:11,900
Oh, yeah.

742
00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:13,860
All right.

743
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:15,120
It doesn't matter.

744
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,900
It's a very famous guy, and it's just

745
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,360
a tip on my tongue, and it really

746
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,500
irks me, because everyone, you know, I'm pretty

747
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,320
good at this.

748
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,100
Steve Bannon?

749
00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:26,520
Yeah, that's it.

750
00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:30,880
A good-looking guy with well coiffed Steve

751
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,200
Bannon.

752
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,180
I don't think so.

753
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,060
Guy looks like he's rolled out of bed

754
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:36,280
100% of the time.

755
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:38,620
So here's another one.

756
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,960
During this discussion, some, I think it was

757
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,560
a guy, a dude in a dress.

758
00:26:44,740 --> 00:26:45,940
I think it was, it could have been

759
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:46,860
an ugly woman.

760
00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:49,100
It could have been a, whatever it was,

761
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,800
it was a very irked- looking person.

762
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:53,580
I don't know the gender of anything else,

763
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,180
but it came up.

764
00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:56,380
This clip is called D&D.

765
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:57,460
This is easy to find.

766
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,880
Oops, sorry.

767
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,080
And this is her, she, it, they, them

768
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,960
going on and demanding the following.

769
00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:08,760
Okay, the next person is Carol Abney, who

770
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,300
is a Tennessee DNC member.

771
00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:10,920
Go ahead, Carol.

772
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,300
We all know that red states need extra

773
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,140
help, so my question is for all of

774
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:16,360
you.

775
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,600
For the past 16 years, the transgender community

776
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,180
has only gotten one at-large seat each

777
00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:22,560
time.

778
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,360
Will you pledge to appoint more than one

779
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,200
transgender person to an at-large seat, and

780
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,580
will you commit to making sure those appointments

781
00:27:30,580 --> 00:27:33,220
reflect the gender and ethnic diversity of the

782
00:27:33,220 --> 00:27:34,260
transgender community?

783
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,260
Let's, since Carol wanted to ask this of

784
00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:38,520
everybody, and then I want to give Mr.

785
00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:41,240
Paul an opportunity to give, to be fair

786
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,540
for everyone, to speak more.

787
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,940
Is there, would everybody here commit to that,

788
00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:46,920
or is there anyone who would, raise your

789
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,940
hand if you would commit to what she

790
00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:48,460
just asked.

791
00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:49,900
Okay.

792
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Okay.

793
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,480
Hey.

794
00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:52,440
All hands went up.

795
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Hey, but wait a minute.

796
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,800
We've got to figure out what NBC is

797
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,400
doing here.

798
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,800
I mean, we know they're being spun off.

799
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,440
We know that there's all kinds of issues.

800
00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,480
Are they going to the Democrat party and

801
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840
saying, just make us our, you know, let's

802
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,720
make it official and just pay us?

803
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,660
What is, I mean, they didn't do this

804
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:10,680
for free, I presume?

805
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Like, oh, it's great, well, it is great

806
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,660
content for the show.

807
00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:14,760
They're working for us.

808
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,700
But what is that connection?

809
00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:18,260
Why?

810
00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:19,720
Why would they do this?

811
00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:24,300
You know, I was baffled by it myself.

812
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,600
It's a desperate desperation.

813
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,920
I mean, when you say MSDNC, now it's

814
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,800
just a fact.

815
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:35,000
It's very strange that they went for this.

816
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,980
You know, maybe there's something afoot.

817
00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:38,720
You may have stumbled onto something here.

818
00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:40,620
There may be something afoot where they actually

819
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:43,140
stay on the air as an independent, you

820
00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:45,380
know, Spinco is the name of the company.

821
00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:46,480
Spinco.

822
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,260
Who do you work for?

823
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:48,620
Here's my new card, Spinco.

824
00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:49,600
Oh, all right.

825
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,460
The Spinco company may keep them on the

826
00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:54,580
air and cable, because they're already assigned a

827
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:57,340
certain, you know, if you're a cable provider

828
00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:59,420
in some area, you have signed up for

829
00:28:59,420 --> 00:28:59,680
them.

830
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,520
But how poetic is it that MSNBC is

831
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,660
owned by a company called Spinco, a news

832
00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:07,440
organization?

833
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680
Yeah, it's pretty funny.

834
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,120
It is.

835
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640
So it's possible that they would just stay

836
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,780
on the air as a mouthpiece for the

837
00:29:16,780 --> 00:29:17,400
Democrat Party.

838
00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:17,940
Why not?

839
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,440
Well, I mean, there's money there, so they

840
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,020
should do something.

841
00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:23,340
And they're just pathetic, though.

842
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:23,740
They're for hire.

843
00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:24,660
They're for hire.

844
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,760
This was like watching Capehart and Joy Reid

845
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,180
and the Redhead.

846
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,100
Psaki.

847
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,220
Psaki.

848
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:31,680
Psaki.

849
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,780
Yakking away here.

850
00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:35,480
And Capehart's the absolute worst.

851
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:36,240
Here's Capehart.

852
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,700
This is the DSA Capehart, because this needs

853
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:39,120
a setup.

854
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,500
They went through a series of questions where

855
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:46,860
they asked people various just generalized questions, and

856
00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:47,980
they all raised their hands.

857
00:29:48,060 --> 00:29:50,600
And whatever they asked, everybody raised their hands.

858
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,300
This was like the idiots that ran for

859
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:55,580
the for the Democrat primaries.

860
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Yeah.

861
00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:58,660
Presidency a couple of years ago when they

862
00:29:58,660 --> 00:30:01,540
said, well, you give free health care to

863
00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:02,560
all the immigrants.

864
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,540
And they looked at each other and they

865
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:06,420
all raised their hands like idiots.

866
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,020
Exactly.

867
00:30:07,860 --> 00:30:09,600
So they're doing the same thing now.

868
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,240
They're all raising their hands like idiots.

869
00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,380
And I thought that this particular question was

870
00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:16,120
like, and because what's interesting about this one

871
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,700
is at the very end, they all raise

872
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:20,460
their hands and the audience all raised their

873
00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:21,720
hands to this one.

874
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:22,760
In this round.

875
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,680
So I'm going to have a show of

876
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,040
hands.

877
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,580
How many of you believe that racism and

878
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:32,580
misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's

879
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:32,920
defeat?

880
00:30:37,410 --> 00:30:37,750
Okay.

881
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:41,870
So that's good.

882
00:30:41,950 --> 00:30:42,570
You all pass.

883
00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:48,050
Wow.

884
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:49,350
Wow.

885
00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:49,970
Capehart.

886
00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:52,270
He's from NBC News.

887
00:30:52,270 --> 00:30:54,050
He's not just MSNBC, isn't he?

888
00:30:54,090 --> 00:30:54,810
No, no, he's not.

889
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:55,650
No, no.

890
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:56,830
Oh, I thought it was with the big

891
00:30:56,830 --> 00:30:58,150
boys, with the mothership.

892
00:30:58,150 --> 00:30:58,250
No, no.

893
00:30:58,270 --> 00:30:58,990
He's on PBS.

894
00:30:59,390 --> 00:30:59,990
Oh, he's out.

895
00:31:00,310 --> 00:31:00,990
They're all out.

896
00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:03,050
He's on PBS and MSNBC.

897
00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:04,790
I don't think, I've never seen him on

898
00:31:04,790 --> 00:31:05,130
NBC.

899
00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:09,330
He is the associate editor of the Washington

900
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:12,230
Post and he's really an embarrassment to journalism

901
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:13,450
as far as I'm concerned.

902
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:15,550
He's super one-sided.

903
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:17,690
He's a big fan.

904
00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:19,430
He's just a pathetic character.

905
00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:21,570
So here we have, this is the DNC

906
00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:22,810
new chair clip.

907
00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:23,690
Okay.

908
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:25,930
There's a new chairman of the Democratic Party

909
00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:27,570
as it comes to grips with the Republican

910
00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:29,390
control of the White House and both houses

911
00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:29,970
of Congress.

912
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:33,250
Ken Martin, the Minnesota party leader, won on

913
00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:36,250
the first ballot, getting 32 more votes than

914
00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:37,290
the majority he needed.

915
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:40,030
Martin has pledged to refocus the party's message

916
00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:42,470
on working class voters and to improve the

917
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:44,670
party's rapid response to President Trump.

918
00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:46,310
What does this guy have?

919
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:48,690
I mean, he's pasty white from Minnesota?

920
00:31:49,570 --> 00:31:51,410
Yeah, something's going on with Minnesota.

921
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:52,750
What is this Minnesota?

922
00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:54,710
What is the appeal of that guy?

923
00:31:54,990 --> 00:31:56,350
I have no idea.

924
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:57,850
And there's a couple of clips of him

925
00:31:57,850 --> 00:31:59,810
online that are just like embarrassing.

926
00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:01,130
But okay.

927
00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:03,010
So this is the last clip.

928
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:04,610
And that was from PBS, obviously.

929
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:06,450
Yeah, PBS.

930
00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:09,010
So this is the last clip.

931
00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:11,810
And this to me was epitomized what really

932
00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:13,450
this thing was classic.

933
00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:17,350
This thing was a joke, this DNC moment.

934
00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:18,030
Yeah, it was.

935
00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:20,370
And so they're just going to say, okay,

936
00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:21,310
here's what we're going to do.

937
00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:24,510
We're going to have you each introduce yourselves

938
00:32:24,510 --> 00:32:25,970
one at a time.

939
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:29,270
And this was the group for the chair.

940
00:32:29,770 --> 00:32:33,870
And there was one black woman, five white

941
00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:38,890
dudes, a mixed race person, and one white

942
00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:39,370
woman.

943
00:32:39,670 --> 00:32:41,630
So you had eight people up there.

944
00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:44,490
And so it starts off with the black

945
00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:47,270
woman, who I have to wonder whether she

946
00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:50,130
was looking around and saying, this is really,

947
00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:53,170
I don't know why any blacks are buying

948
00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:54,730
into any of this DNC stuff.

949
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:57,170
And maybe she's goofing here.

950
00:32:57,650 --> 00:32:58,670
But this is the first.

951
00:32:58,830 --> 00:33:01,090
When you introduce yourself, you go, I'm, you

952
00:33:01,090 --> 00:33:01,590
know, John C.

953
00:33:01,670 --> 00:33:03,190
Dvorak and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

954
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:04,170
I did this and that in the Army,

955
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:05,110
did no agenda show.

956
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:06,830
And you introduce yourself.

957
00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:08,890
But here's the way, and this to me

958
00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:12,130
was the epitome of the entire event, was

959
00:33:12,130 --> 00:33:14,430
this woman's introduction of herself.

960
00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:17,110
And we'll begin with the opening statements.

961
00:33:17,230 --> 00:33:19,650
Each candidate will have 30 seconds.

962
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:22,430
And we'll start with Dr. Quintessa Hathaway.

963
00:33:22,810 --> 00:33:23,950
Good evening, everyone.

964
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:26,890
It is my desire to be the next

965
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:28,190
DNC chair.

966
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:30,570
And I just want to give you all

967
00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:32,390
a little bit of something that's been on

968
00:33:32,390 --> 00:33:34,210
my heart here over the last couple days.

969
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:40,170
You fight on, you fight on.

970
00:33:40,550 --> 00:33:45,130
You fight on, you fight on.

971
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:50,830
When your government is doing you wrong, you

972
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:52,090
fight on.

973
00:33:52,270 --> 00:33:54,710
Oh, you fight on.

974
00:33:55,170 --> 00:33:55,830
Thank you.

975
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:57,870
Thank you, Dr. Hathaway.

976
00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:05,450
That's, I think that's something from the black

977
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:06,890
church, actually, that song.

978
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:11,010
Well, obviously one of the gospel songs of

979
00:34:11,010 --> 00:34:11,530
some sort.

980
00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:13,489
But what's that got to do with introducing

981
00:34:13,489 --> 00:34:14,010
yourself?

982
00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:16,090
And why would you do that in front

983
00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:17,530
of this lily white audience?

984
00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:18,270
Extra points.

985
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:21,389
Extra points, man.

986
00:34:22,130 --> 00:34:24,550
Hey, you know, now that I'm thinking about

987
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:26,870
it, Ken Martin might be non-binary.

988
00:34:27,610 --> 00:34:29,190
He has kind of that look.

989
00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:33,159
Yeah, could be.

990
00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:37,380
That androgynous look.

991
00:34:38,139 --> 00:34:39,219
He has a Buddha judge.

992
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,840
He's like a Buddha judge type dude.

993
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,020
So the Democrat, this is the Democrat party.

994
00:34:44,260 --> 00:34:47,000
And they're wondering, and I think the kicker

995
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,280
in the whole thing was, you know, how

996
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,820
many people think that Kamala Harris lost because

997
00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:54,260
of misogyny and sexism, sexism and racism.

998
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:56,920
And they all said, yeah, that's the reason.

999
00:34:58,100 --> 00:34:59,980
And they're going to, and then they went

1000
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:02,700
into this transgender stuff and non-binary, and

1001
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,720
they've just gone off the rails with this

1002
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:04,920
stuff.

1003
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120
And they have nobody, people always ask me,

1004
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:09,980
I've had a back and forth with a

1005
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:12,980
few friends of mine of the liberal persuasion.

1006
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,820
Oh, please.

1007
00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:15,780
You still, they still talk to you?

1008
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:17,120
No, no, not them.

1009
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:17,880
Oh, OK.

1010
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,420
This is a big shot.

1011
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,240
Oh, I was confused.

1012
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,400
And it was like, what is it, what

1013
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,380
are the Democrats going to do?

1014
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,060
What can we do?

1015
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,980
It's just like, there's no, is there any,

1016
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,500
anybody on the horizon to fix this?

1017
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:30,840
No.

1018
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160
They know they're in a pickle, the smart

1019
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,540
ones.

1020
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:34,860
Yeah.

1021
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,160
And they can't get out of it because

1022
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,340
they're in a, there is like in a

1023
00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:39,080
nosedive.

1024
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,860
And they can't get out of it.

1025
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Yeah, it's, it's really sad.

1026
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:47,440
It's really sad.

1027
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,280
Well, what's somewhat sad about it is it

1028
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,320
gives the, I mean, I'm not complaining necessarily,

1029
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,440
but the Republicans really can't be given a

1030
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,320
free rein.

1031
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,160
What do you mean?

1032
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,740
Oh, because we need some, some good pushback.

1033
00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:04,200
We need some pushback.

1034
00:36:04,220 --> 00:36:06,140
You can't just go nuts.

1035
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,240
And if, if this, you know, after Trump's

1036
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,280
first four years, if J.D. Vance gets

1037
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,980
in, who's a sharper character than Trump and

1038
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:16,220
younger and more, you know, kind of a

1039
00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:19,760
not, not as quite as conniving and interesting,

1040
00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:20,940
to say the least.

1041
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,480
Conniving.

1042
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,540
But he's, he could hold the thing for

1043
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:27,900
another eight years.

1044
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:28,400
Yeah.

1045
00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:30,280
And then after that, who knows?

1046
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,680
But the Democrats have nothing going on.

1047
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,700
Well, not at the moment, not the way,

1048
00:36:35,780 --> 00:36:37,180
not the way this is happening.

1049
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:38,960
Not if it's going to be a bunch

1050
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,080
of non-binaries.

1051
00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:44,240
But anyway, I think the honeypot was successful,

1052
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,700
you know, threw everybody over and like, oh,

1053
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:48,720
we got to go nuts over.

1054
00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:50,200
This is very, very, yeah, you're right.

1055
00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:50,820
It's disturbing.

1056
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,300
It's like, read the room, you know, the

1057
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:55,020
country, read the room with the country.

1058
00:36:55,340 --> 00:37:00,640
Well, so speaking of MSNBC and how they've

1059
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,880
completely tied themselves to the DNC, there's some

1060
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,720
interesting things happening, which we have been harping

1061
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:11,440
on for years.

1062
00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:13,820
Literally years.

1063
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:16,980
And that is about the funding.

1064
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,220
We've mainly talked about NPR, but I think

1065
00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,980
we, I might have still had a syndicated

1066
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:28,040
radio show because I remember us talking about

1067
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,760
how the people who sell airtime for NPR,

1068
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,280
which when you think about it, shouldn't be

1069
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,460
sold as commercial airtime, but they are the

1070
00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:41,380
exact same people, the same salespeople who sell

1071
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:42,860
commercial radio airtime.

1072
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:47,040
And that's not how it's supposed to work.

1073
00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:50,640
And it's always kind of been skirting the

1074
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,140
edge, I think, of the rules.

1075
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,520
And this clip goes back to, I think,

1076
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,480
this is 2017.

1077
00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:58,080
It may not even have been the first

1078
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:58,920
time we played it.

1079
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:00,600
What was the name of the lady who

1080
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,280
was then running NPR at the time?

1081
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,060
I forget her name.

1082
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,300
Yeah, she's still floating around in Hollywood.

1083
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,940
Yeah, you're right.

1084
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,220
I can't remember her name of hand, unfortunately,

1085
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,920
because it doesn't come up enough.

1086
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,060
Well, this is 2017 when...

1087
00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:15,860
I think you're right.

1088
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,340
I think this actually is before that.

1089
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,400
I think the 2017 is the latest version

1090
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,800
we played.

1091
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,200
Redux, probably.

1092
00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:25,880
And here she was talking about their revenues

1093
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,460
being down, but here's how she described it.

1094
00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:29,880
Okay, moving on to money.

1095
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:33,800
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up

1096
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,400
in the recession?

1097
00:38:34,660 --> 00:38:36,280
And what about foundation grants?

1098
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,720
Two different stories.

1099
00:38:40,340 --> 00:38:44,020
Underwriting is down.

1100
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:45,520
It's down for everybody.

1101
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,180
I mean, this is the area that is

1102
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:51,940
most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting,

1103
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,940
advertising, call it whatever you want.

1104
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,780
Call it whatever you want.

1105
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,300
So the whole idea of underwriting for NPR

1106
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:04,060
and PBS, I'm going to focus on NPR

1107
00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:05,460
for a moment since that's what we've always

1108
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:09,380
been following, is that you can sponsor...

1109
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,940
It's not even a sponsorship.

1110
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:12,180
It's an underwriting.

1111
00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:13,920
It's an underwriting, which means...

1112
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,420
Which is a term...

1113
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,520
When she said advertising, whatever you want to

1114
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,380
call it, underwriting, and I worked for public

1115
00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:26,560
radio myself, underwriting, I think, is just a...

1116
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,560
I think it's a misnomer, and I think

1117
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,440
it's a workaround.

1118
00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:35,240
For the law, I mean, it's in the

1119
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,160
law that if you're a public broadcaster, you

1120
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,480
cannot take advertising.

1121
00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:40,300
I think it's a workaround.

1122
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:42,300
It always has been, but they've been pushing

1123
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:42,980
the limits.

1124
00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:46,140
If anyone listens to NPR recently, there are

1125
00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,980
out-and-out advertisements on that network.

1126
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Yes.

1127
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,740
The whole point being that you, as a

1128
00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:56,060
corporation, if you...

1129
00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:01,640
If you donate to NPR, which is a

1130
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,520
nonprofit, nonprofit organization, you can write that off

1131
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,960
as a tax expense, as a good deed,

1132
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,160
a gift, if you will.

1133
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Always at issue...

1134
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,460
I looked this up, actually.

1135
00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:18,380
The IRS has some kind of fuzzy language

1136
00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:19,540
because...

1137
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:20,880
Here's what they say is the issue.

1138
00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:22,660
The problem presented by the issue of corporate

1139
00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:27,100
sponsorships is distinguished qualified sponsorship payments and the

1140
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:30,560
associated acknowledgement of donors from the sale of

1141
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,700
advertising, and thus the payment being treated as

1142
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,100
unrelated business income.

1143
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,680
So, on one hand, it breaks the 501c3

1144
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,260
rules that the IRS recognizes for NPR.

1145
00:40:41,380 --> 00:40:44,420
On the other hand, simultaneously that makes it

1146
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:47,460
difficult for those corporations to write it off

1147
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:50,360
and take the tax benefit from that.

1148
00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:54,620
Anyway, Brendan Carr, who is the new FCC

1149
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:57,100
chief, praise God we got this guy in,

1150
00:40:57,660 --> 00:40:59,360
not so much for what he's doing with

1151
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,840
NPR, but just in general.

1152
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:01,940
It was kind of going nuts.

1153
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,640
That other lady was going all into the

1154
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,080
internet.

1155
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200
And you remember she was like, oh, yeah,

1156
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,700
we're going to only allow legal traffic, and

1157
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,080
we'll see what Brendan Carr does.

1158
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,440
But so far, he's been focusing on public

1159
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:12,860
media.

1160
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,320
And, of course, NPR wouldn't be NPR if

1161
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,960
they didn't do a segment about themselves.

1162
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,240
Now, some news about public media.

1163
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,300
The new head of the Federal Communications Commission

1164
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:26,980
under President Trump has ordered an investigation of

1165
00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:28,400
NPR and PBS.

1166
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,580
He is focusing on the corporate underwriting spots

1167
00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:33,600
that you hear on shows like this one.

1168
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:35,220
NPR media correspondent.

1169
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:38,620
By the way, there was zero underwriting mention

1170
00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:39,880
in front of this report.

1171
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:40,780
Funny, huh?

1172
00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:42,360
On shows like this one.

1173
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,600
NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik joins me now.

1174
00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:48,880
And before I bring in David, I want

1175
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,040
to note NPR has rules for reporting when

1176
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,480
we report on ourselves.

1177
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,740
Among them, no corporate official, no news executive

1178
00:41:56,740 --> 00:41:58,340
has had a hand in this coverage.

1179
00:41:58,620 --> 00:42:00,540
Unlike all other coverage, apparently.

1180
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:01,620
Wow.

1181
00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:04,000
You know, that's kind of a funny admission.

1182
00:42:04,540 --> 00:42:04,740
Yeah.

1183
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,120
Because, you know, it's like, oh, okay.

1184
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,280
In this report, we can't.

1185
00:42:10,460 --> 00:42:11,980
In this particular report.

1186
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,000
But play that little bit at the end

1187
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,500
again, because there's something in there that's got

1188
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:17,180
my attention.

1189
00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:19,460
Folkenflik joins me now.

1190
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:21,720
And before I bring in David, I do

1191
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,320
want to note NPR has rules for reporting

1192
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,360
when we report on ourselves.

1193
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,580
Among them, no corporate official, no news executive

1194
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:31,200
has had a hand in this coverage.

1195
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Okay.

1196
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,360
No news executive.

1197
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,020
Yes.

1198
00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:35,800
Well, no corporate.

1199
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,780
No corporate either.

1200
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,560
She said no corporate.

1201
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,800
But why would a news executive not have

1202
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,160
a hand?

1203
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:42,420
News executives are the editors, aren't they?

1204
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:43,340
You would think.

1205
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440
And editors look at everything.

1206
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,100
That's what they do.

1207
00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:48,740
That's their job, is to make sure that

1208
00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:53,560
the material is, like, abides by the principles

1209
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,900
of whatever the hell that is.

1210
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,180
In this case, Marie Louise is freewheeling it.

1211
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,780
She's doing whatever she wants to do.

1212
00:42:58,860 --> 00:42:59,720
She's out of control.

1213
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,880
With that, David, what is this investigation about?

1214
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,160
Well, Marie Louise on its face involves concerns

1215
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,260
raised by the new FCC chairman, Brendan Carr,

1216
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,100
elevated by President Trump to that position, about

1217
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,780
the question of whether our underwriting spots, just

1218
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:16,980
as you say, the ones that we hear

1219
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:19,680
on shows like this on NPR and on

1220
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,140
PBS stations as well, are veering into becoming

1221
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:26,020
crossing the lines, in fact, into becoming prohibited

1222
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:26,780
commercial advertisements.

1223
00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:29,140
So, for example, if you hear something like

1224
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:32,440
Toyota, you know, is underwriting NPR and stations

1225
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,380
like this, they can't say, go buy a

1226
00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:36,820
Tercel or some other Toyota car.

1227
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,200
They can say, you can learn more on

1228
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,560
our website, and here's what you can do.

1229
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,540
You can't have a call for action.

1230
00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:43,060
And there are other restrictions That's a call

1231
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:43,660
for action.

1232
00:43:43,820 --> 00:43:44,100
I know.

1233
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,780
He's completely wrong on this.

1234
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,700
You cannot say, go to our website.

1235
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:48,280
That's exactly...

1236
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,540
Going to the website is a call for

1237
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:50,960
action.

1238
00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:51,360
That's right.

1239
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:54,100
I mean, how much more clear can it

1240
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,160
be than, go to...

1241
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,340
If they had a news editor, this piece

1242
00:43:58,340 --> 00:43:59,620
would never have aired this way.

1243
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,620
Because the news editor, like you and I,

1244
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,000
would have said, ho, ho, ho, ho, you

1245
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,000
can't say that.

1246
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,200
We got one of our producers, I don't

1247
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,200
have it in front of me, but he

1248
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,680
said, you know, we're at such a disadvantage

1249
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,740
against commercial radio.

1250
00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:14,600
Well, yeah, you're not commercial radio.

1251
00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:15,940
Said, you know, the other guys, they can

1252
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:17,760
do all kinds of stuff, promo codes, go

1253
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,340
buy Geno.

1254
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:20,100
And we can't do any of that?

1255
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Well, no, the whole...

1256
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:23,480
That's the idea of public broadcasting.

1257
00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:26,140
They're given a whole chunk of the airway

1258
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:27,440
for free...

1259
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:31,060
...to do this sort of work, and now

1260
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:31,740
they're bitching?

1261
00:44:32,140 --> 00:44:33,780
If you want to be a commercial radio

1262
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:38,000
station, hey, go buy a frequency someplace else

1263
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,240
and go become one.

1264
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,240
What do you complain...

1265
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:41,520
Well, how do you complain about this?

1266
00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:42,840
Well, this was what they tried to do.

1267
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,060
Just like us, complaining about, oh, we don't

1268
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:45,960
have any advertising.

1269
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Well, if you want to advertise and want

1270
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,440
to do the show differently, we can do

1271
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,760
that.

1272
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:48,960
Yeah.

1273
00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:50,760
On YouTube, with video.

1274
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:52,600
Yeah, with a big microphone.

1275
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,120
And cans.

1276
00:44:54,980 --> 00:44:55,420
Cans.

1277
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,820
Well, this is...

1278
00:44:58,820 --> 00:45:00,180
I mean, we can just look at this

1279
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:01,300
from a historical perspective.

1280
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,020
This is why NPR, through so much money

1281
00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:09,580
and resources at podcasting, not understanding that the

1282
00:45:09,580 --> 00:45:12,040
only way podcasting works is the way we

1283
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,300
do it, with very little resources.

1284
00:45:15,380 --> 00:45:17,380
They had, you remember, like radio labs.

1285
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:19,460
They had, like, 25 people working on that

1286
00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:19,900
one show?

1287
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,260
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

1288
00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:22,140
No, we do it through volunteerism, too.

1289
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,500
We have resources.

1290
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:23,860
Yes.

1291
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,380
We're basically NPR.

1292
00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:27,200
Properly done.

1293
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Actually, yes.

1294
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Except when people donate to us, you can't

1295
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,240
write it off as a donation to a

1296
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,580
non-profit, and then you can plug your

1297
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:39,480
gigawatt coffee or whatever you got going.

1298
00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:40,640
It's a loophole.

1299
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,200
They found a loophole.

1300
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,980
Yes, they have.

1301
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,740
The loophole is so big, you could turn

1302
00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:46,380
a 747 around in it.

1303
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,780
You can't say, go buy a Tercel or

1304
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:49,620
some other Toyota car.

1305
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:51,000
They can say, you can learn more on

1306
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,360
our website, and here's what you can do.

1307
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360
You can't have a call for action.

1308
00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:56,500
And there are other restrictions as well.

1309
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:56,860
Unbelievable.

1310
00:45:56,860 --> 00:45:57,860
And that's what he's doing there.

1311
00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:01,320
It's worth also remembering, the FCC doesn't directly

1312
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,680
regulate networks like NPR and PBS.

1313
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:05,100
What it does is regulate...

1314
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,220
What's the laugh tale, bro?

1315
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,720
What do they mean they don't directly regulate?

1316
00:46:08,860 --> 00:46:09,740
What does that even mean?

1317
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,900
What's the laugh tale for?

1318
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:13,380
I don't know.

1319
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,060
The FCC doesn't directly regulate networks like NPR

1320
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:16,480
and PBS.

1321
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,760
What it does is regulate the member stations,

1322
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,420
which even in this digital age have to

1323
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:25,320
get licenses approved by the FCC to broadcast

1324
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,100
their news airwaves that are owned otherwise by

1325
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:28,560
the public.

1326
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,720
Okay.

1327
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,980
So what he's saying is they don't actually

1328
00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:33,800
regulate the content, which is true.

1329
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:35,680
A lot of this is done by, was

1330
00:46:36,260 --> 00:46:38,800
it PMX, I think, or what is it?

1331
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,140
APM, American Public Media.

1332
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:42,300
Those are commercial outfits.

1333
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:43,940
They produce it commercially.

1334
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:44,840
They get paid.

1335
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,720
The member stations pay for that content, which

1336
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:48,380
they, of course...

1337
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:49,580
I don't know the prices.

1338
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,480
Maybe some of our producers could tell us.

1339
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,960
I'll bet you it's too expensive.

1340
00:46:53,660 --> 00:46:55,320
I'll bet you it's just too expensive.

1341
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:57,740
And that's what they should be focusing on.

1342
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,240
Give me an NPR station.

1343
00:46:59,380 --> 00:47:00,160
I'll change it.

1344
00:47:00,860 --> 00:47:03,040
I have to say, for example, that if

1345
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,580
you look at, not NPR so much, but

1346
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:09,140
PBS, you look at a show like Nova,

1347
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,200
that thing costs a fortune to make.

1348
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:16,100
Nova, Frontline, those two shows, for example, they

1349
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:17,420
are not cheap shows.

1350
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:19,520
Well, that's why they have Archer Daniel Midlands

1351
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,200
and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

1352
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:23,700
And they got the big boys supporting them

1353
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:23,960
there.

1354
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:24,860
You know, it's important.

1355
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:27,220
We have to do some more pharma stories.

1356
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:29,480
I mean, it's so corrupt.

1357
00:47:30,340 --> 00:47:32,760
Anyway, are they doing it right?

1358
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,140
What have NPR and PBS said in response

1359
00:47:36,140 --> 00:47:37,140
to this investigation?

1360
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Well, it's my chance, as always, Mayor Louise,

1361
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:40,880
to point out I'm not speaking for NPR.

1362
00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:42,420
I'm just the guy paid by NPR to

1363
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:42,820
cover it.

1364
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,400
Handsomely paid, I might point out.

1365
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,080
Half a million dollars a year.

1366
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Handsomely paid to do this.

1367
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,580
That guy was making it.

1368
00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:52,040
That guy makes half a million dollars a

1369
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:52,160
year.

1370
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,780
Most of these people do.

1371
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:56,260
Most of the I think the top 10

1372
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,280
people at NPR who are on air make

1373
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,600
four and a half to five.

1374
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,580
Oh, I saw this list.

1375
00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:02,680
Yeah, I just showed up.

1376
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:02,920
Right.

1377
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:04,300
Which is fine.

1378
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,300
That's fine.

1379
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:06,780
But then don't complain if you don't have

1380
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:07,780
enough money to cover it.

1381
00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:09,600
Point out I'm not speaking for NPR.

1382
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:11,120
I'm just the guy paid by NPR to

1383
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,520
cover it.

1384
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:15,240
But our chief executive, Catherine Mayer, as well

1385
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,600
as the head of PBS, Paula Kerger, both

1386
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,620
say, look, our programming and our underwriting messages

1387
00:48:21,620 --> 00:48:22,840
comply with the law.

1388
00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:24,780
They comply with federal regulations.

1389
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,640
And they comply, as we've tried to do

1390
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,840
for decades, with the guidelines that the FCC

1391
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,400
itself has given us to make sure that

1392
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,420
we're going on the straight and narrow, that

1393
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:34,560
we're staying within the rules.

1394
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:36,480
And both of them have said essentially that

1395
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,700
they're confident that this review or inquiry will

1396
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:41,880
ultimately affirm that they're adhering to these rules.

1397
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:43,960
These would have real consequences for our, you

1398
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,140
know, these 1,500 public broadcasting stations around

1399
00:48:47,140 --> 00:48:49,400
the country that are licensed by the FCC.

1400
00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:51,840
But, you know, they're saying we think that

1401
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,440
we do it right.

1402
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,040
And, you know, presumably, if their tweaks are

1403
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,580
suggested, they would live with that, too.

1404
00:48:56,780 --> 00:48:57,020
Oh, yeah.

1405
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,260
We'll take your tweaks.

1406
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,100
I mean, it comes down to this difference.

1407
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,820
So if we had a law firm, it

1408
00:49:03,820 --> 00:49:09,720
would be okay for NPR in California to

1409
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:11,960
say, this program is brought to you by

1410
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,720
the Curry-Dvorak law firm.

1411
00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:18,180
The problem is, what they do is this

1412
00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:19,800
program is brought to you by the Curry

1413
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,420
-Dvorak law firm serving Californians and Texans since

1414
00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:24,440
1938.

1415
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:26,440
See, that's the problem.

1416
00:49:26,460 --> 00:49:27,140
That's minimum.

1417
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:28,720
But that's what they do.

1418
00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:29,660
I know.

1419
00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:30,420
They do that all.

1420
00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:30,700
Yeah.

1421
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:31,460
Yeah.

1422
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,280
All right.

1423
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,200
What's at stake here?

1424
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:35,500
David, just back up and give us a

1425
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:37,120
sense of the broader stakes here.

1426
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,820
I think it's really important.

1427
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,140
You know, in some ways, you've got this

1428
00:49:41,140 --> 00:49:44,480
specific inquiry being raised by Chairman Carr, but

1429
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,960
it fits into his call, which he made

1430
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,100
expressly in his letters to the heads of

1431
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:51,580
NPR and of PBS that he basically wants

1432
00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:54,060
there to be an elimination of all government

1433
00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:56,820
funding from the federal government for public broadcasting.

1434
00:49:56,820 --> 00:49:58,680
And he said he's basically going to share

1435
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,880
what he finds with lawmakers on Capitol Hill

1436
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,540
as they debate that very issue.

1437
00:50:02,660 --> 00:50:05,220
Trump tried without success several times to cut

1438
00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:07,100
that funding during his first term in office.

1439
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,220
And it, of course, fits into this broader

1440
00:50:09,220 --> 00:50:12,900
assault rhetorically by President Trump and his allies

1441
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:14,280
on the mainstream media.

1442
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Trump has taken to the courts to go

1443
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
against major networks and major news organization.

1444
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,240
He's, you know, made clear he intends to

1445
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,580
use bureaucratic regulatory levers, as well.

1446
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,480
This is one of them.

1447
00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,280
So you see this as, you know, really,

1448
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,420
in some ways, an attack on public broadcasting's

1449
00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:31,920
federal funding and a questioning of its private

1450
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,820
funding and, you know, creating more hostile climate

1451
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:36,060
for media writ large.

1452
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:36,760
Yeah, yeah.

1453
00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:37,660
Hostile.

1454
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:39,760
Hostile to media writ large.

1455
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,020
No.

1456
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,480
Let's stop and make mention of one thing.

1457
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,180
PBS and NPR.

1458
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:50,600
PBS worse, I think, than NPR ever since

1459
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,740
Gwen Ifill died.

1460
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:52,740
Agreed.

1461
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:53,520
We're sad.

1462
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:55,580
Our mouthpiece is for the Democrat Party.

1463
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:57,280
There's no question about it.

1464
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,040
We've analyzed these stories.

1465
00:50:59,140 --> 00:51:00,300
We play them on the show.

1466
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,360
And we go and we see it point

1467
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,900
by point.

1468
00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:04,360
And you go if you go to the

1469
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,660
my favorite thing, which I like to ridicule,

1470
00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:10,580
which is the Brooks and Capehart bit comedy

1471
00:51:10,580 --> 00:51:13,920
show on the news hour every Friday.

1472
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Who's on first, Brooks or Capehart?

1473
00:51:16,340 --> 00:51:18,680
And they go on agreeing with each other

1474
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,840
about how what a dick Donald Trump is.

1475
00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:24,000
And that's the whole analysis.

1476
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,340
And we've seen it before where they have

1477
00:51:26,340 --> 00:51:28,200
two sides of the same argument.

1478
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:30,740
No, there's not two sides to an argument.

1479
00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:34,000
But they take an argument and put two

1480
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,500
people on it that are on the same

1481
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:35,960
side.

1482
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,740
And they debate each other about the, you

1483
00:51:38,740 --> 00:51:40,620
know, and there's no other opposing views.

1484
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,660
And it's classic because it because they have

1485
00:51:44,660 --> 00:51:47,140
no opposing views on PBS about a number

1486
00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:47,760
of topics.

1487
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:52,100
It's all anti-Republican is what it amounts

1488
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:52,320
to.

1489
00:51:52,660 --> 00:51:54,940
The the funny thing is, do you remember

1490
00:51:54,940 --> 00:51:57,460
that I did a I think it was

1491
00:51:57,460 --> 00:52:00,140
I don't know if it was a speech,

1492
00:52:00,220 --> 00:52:04,860
a keynote or roundtable for NPR and Yarrow

1493
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:05,920
Moan was there.

1494
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,460
Yarrow, formerly known as I vaguely remember this

1495
00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:09,720
story.

1496
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,280
He's the guy that hired me at MTV

1497
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,580
when he was known as Lee.

1498
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:13,540
All right, buddy.

1499
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,720
W.W.M.E. Lee Masters in the

1500
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:16,320
afternoon.

1501
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:18,240
And then he became Yarrow Moan.

1502
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,560
Yeah.

1503
00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:20,840
Masters read the Lee Masters.

1504
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:21,320
Yes.

1505
00:52:21,460 --> 00:52:24,080
And Lee was I liked him a lot.

1506
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:24,820
He was a good guy.

1507
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,820
He didn't like the guy who came in.

1508
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,780
John Reardon screwed him, screwed him right out

1509
00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:32,600
of his MTV CEO position.

1510
00:52:32,860 --> 00:52:33,880
It was his buddy, too.

1511
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:35,500
It was quite, quite ugly how that went

1512
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:35,800
down.

1513
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:39,160
But Lee had done a good thing because

1514
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Lee is a commercial kind of guy.

1515
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:44,800
He had gotten a 100 million dollar, what

1516
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,560
do you call it, endowment from some old

1517
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,340
bag who had 100 million dollars.

1518
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:52,040
And he secured that.

1519
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Some old bag.

1520
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,300
Some old bag.

1521
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:55,860
Jeez.

1522
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,420
Come on.

1523
00:52:56,420 --> 00:52:57,580
Kind of a show are we doing here?

1524
00:52:57,580 --> 00:52:58,140
I don't know.

1525
00:52:58,220 --> 00:52:58,620
I don't know.

1526
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:59,640
We're ageist.

1527
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,260
We're horrible.

1528
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,580
From some old bag.

1529
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,040
And it was 100 million dollars.

1530
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:07,900
And they squandered that on podcasting.

1531
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:09,620
That's what happened.

1532
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,380
And by the way, NPR as podcasts, perfectly

1533
00:53:15,380 --> 00:53:15,820
fine.

1534
00:53:16,660 --> 00:53:18,900
It's a very good idea.

1535
00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:20,320
Pair it down.

1536
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:22,240
Get down to small teams.

1537
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,240
Oh, they have it over.

1538
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,000
They're so overproduced.

1539
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,660
They're like, you know, NPR has a certain

1540
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:28,580
sound that we like.

1541
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,600
Everyone likes the ridiculous sound.

1542
00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:32,540
Dead sound.

1543
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:33,280
Dead room.

1544
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:34,840
Close micing.

1545
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,540
The whole thing.

1546
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,480
Good afternoon, John.

1547
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,140
How are you doing?

1548
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:37,620
Look.

1549
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:38,220
Look.

1550
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Although you have squeaky voices coming on more

1551
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,860
and more that, you know, the low testosterone

1552
00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:47,000
voices and kind of dingbat women.

1553
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,940
But besides that, you know, the classic sound

1554
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:53,100
is a certain kind of a classic sound.

1555
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:54,900
NPR.

1556
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,820
And you hear a lot of breathing.

1557
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,180
Yes, NPR.

1558
00:53:58,500 --> 00:53:58,860
That's right.

1559
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,400
Everybody.

1560
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,820
Look, you could put Heather and what's the

1561
00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:04,920
other, the Weinstein team on.

1562
00:54:05,060 --> 00:54:05,920
They're like NPR.

1563
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Well, yes.

1564
00:54:07,820 --> 00:54:11,760
Well, we're talking about this horrible COVID restrictions.

1565
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:12,640
Exactly.

1566
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,120
But the point I was going to make

1567
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:19,220
was they the NPR sound is actually worsened

1568
00:54:19,220 --> 00:54:22,160
by their podcast, their podcasts on more NPR.

1569
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,860
It's like everybody's on a podcast.

1570
00:54:25,060 --> 00:54:28,240
An NPR podcast to me seems like guys

1571
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,460
auditioning to be on NPR.

1572
00:54:30,820 --> 00:54:32,380
Oh, it's where the farm team goes.

1573
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:33,020
Absolutely.

1574
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,180
Well, they're all the deal.

1575
00:54:35,180 --> 00:54:38,900
You want to be on the air where

1576
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:40,560
really nobody is going out of the way.

1577
00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:42,220
They put a lot of work into it,

1578
00:54:42,260 --> 00:54:43,180
a lot of extra work.

1579
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:44,280
They got extra producers.

1580
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,100
It's a money loser.

1581
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,380
And so everybody just wants to move up

1582
00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:49,720
to the A-team and they will add

1583
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,540
the A-teams filled with a bunch of

1584
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:53,520
low testosterone, squeaky voices.

1585
00:54:53,740 --> 00:54:55,920
So here once again is here once again

1586
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,860
is the opportunity.

1587
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,800
Jump in with your hyper local podcast.

1588
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,700
You can take the audience from any small

1589
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:07,140
town, burg or even city easily, easily by

1590
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:09,680
doing just stuff about your city where you

1591
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,120
live.

1592
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:11,520
NPR will be gone.

1593
00:55:11,740 --> 00:55:12,840
They have the capability.

1594
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,480
They have the people, but they have to

1595
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,780
make less money and they would have to,

1596
00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:21,060
you know, spend less.

1597
00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:24,060
I mean, I can I can produce the

1598
00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:24,780
way they produce.

1599
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:29,120
I could produce radio labs, radio labs.

1600
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:30,960
I can do that.

1601
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,900
You just did it.

1602
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,160
Yeah.

1603
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,100
See, that's how you do it.

1604
00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:41,040
Radio labs, radio labs, radio labs.

1605
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,800
Yeah, I did that on the fly.

1606
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:44,780
Don't even have to edit it.

1607
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,380
So they're all going to be doing podcasts

1608
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:51,260
and buttons.

1609
00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:54,880
I guarantee you that the next so-called

1610
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,400
M5M person who goes to a podcast will

1611
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,480
be from NPR.

1612
00:55:58,780 --> 00:56:00,920
And I hope it's Brooke Gladstone.

1613
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,160
The people that are in NPR right now

1614
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,500
are too.

1615
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,600
They're not high profile enough.

1616
00:56:06,740 --> 00:56:09,120
And Brooke Gladstone is like this B-level

1617
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,780
in terms of profile.

1618
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,280
There's nobody except for John Yang, maybe.

1619
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,540
You don't need a profile.

1620
00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:17,920
You don't need a profile.

1621
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,020
No, no.

1622
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:21,460
If you want.

1623
00:56:21,620 --> 00:56:23,240
The next person that becomes a podcast is

1624
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,760
going to be another mainstream media network dude

1625
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,260
like Chuck.

1626
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,780
Chuck Chiptod.

1627
00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:31,740
But look, when we started No Agenda, it

1628
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:33,780
took us four or five years before there

1629
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:35,940
was any question of quitting the day job.

1630
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,160
We built it up.

1631
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,140
I had a profile.

1632
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:39,220
You had a profile.

1633
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:40,180
What does it take?

1634
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,380
Grinding, baby.

1635
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:43,440
Grinding.

1636
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:45,600
You got to grind to make it work.

1637
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,300
You can't just waltz in.

1638
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:49,560
It's not the media landscape doesn't work like

1639
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,040
that anymore.

1640
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,380
I hooked up the TV.

1641
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:53,060
It never has worked like that.

1642
00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:54,800
I hooked up the TV in the studio.

1643
00:56:55,860 --> 00:56:57,100
It's on the wall now.

1644
00:56:57,540 --> 00:56:59,520
Well, you're going to be watching TV while

1645
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,220
doing the show.

1646
00:57:00,380 --> 00:57:01,040
No, it's off now.

1647
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:02,400
I don't do that while doing the show.

1648
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:03,600
Tariff.

1649
00:57:03,980 --> 00:57:06,080
Trump concedes there may be some pain over

1650
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,140
sweeping U.S. tariffs.

1651
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:07,440
OK.

1652
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Breaking.

1653
00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:11,400
You know, but I.

1654
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,040
So you just hit it and you say

1655
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:14,900
configure.

1656
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,300
It's a Samsung.

1657
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,980
It's an old one.

1658
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,300
It's probably five years old Samsung.

1659
00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:20,560
And that says select your network.

1660
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,340
So, you know, I selected my my Internet,

1661
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:25,720
the Wi-Fi, and it went through in

1662
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,740
about five minutes.

1663
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,440
It got me six hundred over the air

1664
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,720
DTV channels.

1665
00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:33,340
It got all kinds of six hundred.

1666
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:33,720
Yeah.

1667
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:35,160
Five hundred and forty six.

1668
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,260
I think you have five hundred broadcasters in

1669
00:57:38,260 --> 00:57:38,980
the signals.

1670
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,360
Yeah.

1671
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,660
Coming into Fredericksburg.

1672
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,100
Yes.

1673
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,120
I only have one hundred and twenty.

1674
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:46,220
I'm in the San Francisco Bay area and

1675
00:57:46,220 --> 00:57:47,620
I'm right by the towers.

1676
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:47,920
Yeah.

1677
00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:49,940
But I'm near San Antonio and Austin.

1678
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,440
There's a lot of different people.

1679
00:57:51,580 --> 00:57:52,220
There's Chinese.

1680
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,740
There's tons of Latin stuff and five hundred.

1681
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:56,560
But.

1682
00:57:56,660 --> 00:57:56,780
Yeah.

1683
00:57:56,860 --> 00:57:59,220
But you know, one one station may have

1684
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:00,100
five or six.

1685
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,860
No, I understand how I know how it

1686
00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:02,160
works.

1687
00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:02,420
Five.

1688
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:02,740
Yeah.

1689
00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:05,420
One station can have five subchannels besides the

1690
00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:05,560
point.

1691
00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:05,980
Yeah.

1692
00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:09,530
I got all kinds of stuff.

1693
00:58:09,590 --> 00:58:12,890
But besides that, then Samsung loaded up all

1694
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:14,330
kinds of Samsung TV.

1695
00:58:14,650 --> 00:58:15,050
Pluto.

1696
00:58:15,310 --> 00:58:15,630
You got.

1697
00:58:16,130 --> 00:58:17,970
No, no, no.

1698
00:58:18,050 --> 00:58:18,190
No, no.

1699
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:19,170
That was in addition.

1700
00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:19,670
It was in.

1701
00:58:19,770 --> 00:58:20,330
No, I know.

1702
00:58:21,090 --> 00:58:22,770
My LG set does that, too.

1703
00:58:22,810 --> 00:58:24,070
And you have to turn that off because

1704
00:58:24,070 --> 00:58:25,290
they only do that.

1705
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:26,690
That's a scam.

1706
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:29,230
Despite those phony channels to spy on me.

1707
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:30,270
Yeah.

1708
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:32,230
Because you have to agree to a bunch

1709
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:33,190
of spyware.

1710
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:33,650
Yes.

1711
00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:35,810
To watch those bull crap channels.

1712
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:36,770
I turn them off.

1713
00:58:36,910 --> 00:58:37,970
I just got an email.

1714
00:58:38,110 --> 00:58:40,350
They're asking for two thousand dollars in Bitcoin

1715
00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:41,670
because they saw what I was doing in

1716
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:42,290
my studio.

1717
00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:43,970
The TV is watching me.

1718
00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:46,770
Anyway, my point is that there is no

1719
00:58:46,770 --> 00:58:47,770
more monopoly.

1720
00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:51,290
No one cares about linear based media people.

1721
00:58:52,450 --> 00:58:54,230
The whole gaping hole is the locals.

1722
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:55,270
There's nothing local.

1723
00:58:55,290 --> 00:58:58,290
When we had Snowmageddon in Austin, the NPR

1724
00:58:58,290 --> 00:58:59,470
station had high.

1725
00:58:59,570 --> 00:59:00,630
It's Brook Gladstone.

1726
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:01,690
This American life.

1727
00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:03,530
They had to go to like the top

1728
00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:04,470
40 station.

1729
00:59:04,810 --> 00:59:06,890
Only the morning show because the rest was

1730
00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:07,650
all syndicated.

1731
00:59:08,090 --> 00:59:09,710
No one does anything local anymore.

1732
00:59:09,970 --> 00:59:12,210
So they've all priced themselves out of the

1733
00:59:12,210 --> 00:59:12,430
market.

1734
00:59:12,910 --> 00:59:17,590
And then funny enough, when Marco Rubio, our

1735
00:59:17,590 --> 00:59:20,010
secretary of state, goes out to do his

1736
00:59:20,010 --> 00:59:22,510
very first interview, very first interview.

1737
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:23,710
Who does he choose?

1738
00:59:25,730 --> 00:59:26,770
Who?

1739
00:59:27,090 --> 00:59:27,750
Megyn Kelly.

1740
00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:30,030
Good for her.

1741
00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:33,730
There was a conference call between President Trump

1742
00:59:33,730 --> 00:59:35,850
and the Danish Prime Minister.

1743
00:59:36,290 --> 00:59:37,570
Apparently didn't go very well.

1744
00:59:39,070 --> 00:59:41,430
Reportedly involved with some sort of a meltdown

1745
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:43,090
on the Prime Minister's part.

1746
00:59:43,570 --> 00:59:44,850
They don't want to give it up.

1747
00:59:45,450 --> 00:59:48,370
So what does that, what options does that

1748
00:59:48,370 --> 00:59:48,810
leave us?

1749
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:51,730
Because President Trump did not rule out economic

1750
00:59:51,730 --> 00:59:54,570
or potentially military use.

1751
00:59:54,570 --> 00:59:56,690
Well, I think President Trump's, what he has

1752
00:59:56,690 --> 00:59:58,410
said publicly is he wants to buy it.

1753
00:59:58,690 --> 00:59:59,930
He wants to pay for it.

1754
01:00:00,190 --> 01:00:03,130
And how we worked on something like that,

1755
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:05,070
how something like that is approached obviously is

1756
01:00:05,070 --> 01:00:07,950
probably done better in the appropriate forms as

1757
01:00:07,950 --> 01:00:08,850
opposed to a lot of the stuff is

1758
01:00:08,850 --> 01:00:09,430
done publicly.

1759
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:10,950
And it's not helpful because it puts the

1760
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:12,590
other side in a tough spot domestically.

1761
01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:14,610
So those conversations are going to happen.

1762
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:16,150
But this is not a joke.

1763
01:00:16,330 --> 01:00:18,450
Like what he's saying is pretty accurate.

1764
01:00:18,610 --> 01:00:19,710
People don't talk about it for years.

1765
01:00:20,090 --> 01:00:21,750
We do have, this is not about acquiring

1766
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:23,290
land for the purpose of acquiring land.

1767
01:00:23,290 --> 01:00:25,370
This is in our national interest and it

1768
01:00:25,370 --> 01:00:26,170
needs to be solved.

1769
01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:28,610
President Trump's put out there what he intends

1770
01:00:28,610 --> 01:00:29,850
to do, which is to purchase it.

1771
01:00:30,350 --> 01:00:31,890
I wasn't privy to that phone call.

1772
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:33,410
But I imagine the phone call went the

1773
01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:34,730
way a lot of these phone calls go

1774
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:36,850
and that is, he just speaks bluntly and

1775
01:00:36,850 --> 01:00:37,630
frankly with people.

1776
01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:40,590
And ultimately, I think diplomacy in many cases

1777
01:00:40,590 --> 01:00:43,470
works better when you're straightforward as opposed to

1778
01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:46,930
using platitudes and language that translates to nothing.

1779
01:00:47,170 --> 01:00:49,230
Yes, this is what we've always said, America

1780
01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:50,630
should be run by a business guy.

1781
01:00:50,770 --> 01:00:52,150
So let's look forward four years.

1782
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:53,970
Does the US own Greenland?

1783
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:55,230
We'll see.

1784
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:57,170
I mean, obviously that's the President's priority and

1785
01:00:57,170 --> 01:00:57,970
he has made that point.

1786
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:59,390
I think that what I can tell you

1787
01:00:59,390 --> 01:01:01,290
about four years without getting into specifics because

1788
01:01:01,290 --> 01:01:02,410
I don't- No.

1789
01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:03,390
I don't know.

1790
01:01:03,650 --> 01:01:04,250
Because I don't know.

1791
01:01:04,310 --> 01:01:04,930
Because I don't know.

1792
01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:07,270
I don't have a crystal ball, Megan.

1793
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:09,050
Exactly how we'll proceed tactically.

1794
01:01:09,370 --> 01:01:11,190
What I think you can rest assured of

1795
01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:13,210
is that four years from now, our interest

1796
01:01:13,210 --> 01:01:14,910
in the Arctic will be more secure.

1797
01:01:15,230 --> 01:01:16,910
Our interest in the Panama Canal will be

1798
01:01:16,910 --> 01:01:17,530
more secure.

1799
01:01:18,050 --> 01:01:20,310
Our partnerships in the Western Hemisphere will be

1800
01:01:20,310 --> 01:01:20,690
stronger.

1801
01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:21,770
Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1802
01:01:21,770 --> 01:01:24,010
So Denmark came back.

1803
01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:27,470
Denmark is going public with their strategy.

1804
01:01:27,790 --> 01:01:29,330
You're not going to believe this.

1805
01:01:30,830 --> 01:01:32,490
Deutsche Welle had the scoop.

1806
01:01:32,770 --> 01:01:36,030
Should Denmark prepare for a possible military attack

1807
01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:37,190
by the United States?

1808
01:01:37,330 --> 01:01:39,810
When the President of the European Council considered

1809
01:01:39,810 --> 01:01:42,970
it necessary to say that the territorial integrity

1810
01:01:42,970 --> 01:01:45,890
of Denmark is a crucial issue for the

1811
01:01:45,890 --> 01:01:46,630
European Union.

1812
01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:49,090
And that was in reaction to what US

1813
01:01:49,090 --> 01:01:51,070
President Donald Trump has repeatedly said.

1814
01:01:51,070 --> 01:01:54,010
Namely, that the US wants control of the

1815
01:01:54,010 --> 01:01:55,690
Arctic island of Greenland.

1816
01:01:56,070 --> 01:01:58,770
Trump has refused to exclude the use of

1817
01:01:58,770 --> 01:01:59,870
force to seize it.

1818
01:02:00,190 --> 01:02:02,650
If you don't know, Greenland is an autonomous

1819
01:02:02,650 --> 01:02:05,930
territory that is in the kingdom of Denmark.

1820
01:02:06,610 --> 01:02:10,110
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen received backing from

1821
01:02:10,110 --> 01:02:13,010
European allies over the issue on visits to

1822
01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:14,590
Berlin and Paris this week.

1823
01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:17,490
She's repeatedly said the island is not for

1824
01:02:17,490 --> 01:02:17,790
sale.

1825
01:02:18,330 --> 01:02:22,050
The latest survey of Greenlanders shows that 85

1826
01:02:22,050 --> 01:02:24,830
% do not want to belong to the

1827
01:02:24,830 --> 01:02:25,590
United States.

1828
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:27,530
So then they bring on a lady from

1829
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:30,430
the Atlantic Council who's there in Denmark.

1830
01:02:30,670 --> 01:02:33,430
By the way, that Frederiksen lady, she's a

1831
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:33,770
beast.

1832
01:02:34,350 --> 01:02:35,730
She's like eight feet tall.

1833
01:02:35,810 --> 01:02:37,470
Have you seen her wearing cowboy boots?

1834
01:02:38,210 --> 01:02:39,830
Which she should take off right away.

1835
01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:42,130
You can't wear cowboy boots.

1836
01:02:42,530 --> 01:02:43,730
No, you're not American yet.

1837
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:45,790
So they bring in the...

1838
01:02:45,790 --> 01:02:46,210
Yet.

1839
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:48,650
They bring in the lady from the Atlantic

1840
01:02:48,650 --> 01:02:49,090
Council.

1841
01:02:49,090 --> 01:02:50,930
You won't believe this strategy.

1842
01:02:51,150 --> 01:02:52,310
It's fantastic.

1843
01:02:52,930 --> 01:02:54,470
I'm joined now by Elisabeth Broll.

1844
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:57,130
She's a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's

1845
01:02:57,130 --> 01:03:00,130
Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security.

1846
01:03:00,490 --> 01:03:02,670
And you write that Denmark doesn't have to

1847
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:04,550
be a pushover for Donald Trump when it

1848
01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:05,390
comes to Greenland.

1849
01:03:05,650 --> 01:03:08,410
So tell us, how can the Danes hit

1850
01:03:08,410 --> 01:03:11,470
the US, not below the waist, but actually

1851
01:03:11,470 --> 01:03:13,310
directly in the waistline?

1852
01:03:14,130 --> 01:03:17,250
As your viewers may know, Ozempic is the

1853
01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:19,010
drug of the moment in the United States.

1854
01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:22,010
Hugely popular weight loss drug.

1855
01:03:22,430 --> 01:03:24,630
And Ozempic is made by Nova Nordisk, a

1856
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:27,270
Danish company that also happens to be Europe's

1857
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:30,370
most valuable or second most valuable company, depending

1858
01:03:30,370 --> 01:03:32,550
on what day of the year you're looking.

1859
01:03:35,170 --> 01:03:38,330
And Ozempic is a Danish product.

1860
01:03:38,990 --> 01:03:43,190
And it's one of several products made by

1861
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:46,090
Danish companies that are very popular in the

1862
01:03:46,090 --> 01:03:46,690
United States.

1863
01:03:47,090 --> 01:03:48,290
Lego is also very popular.

1864
01:03:48,290 --> 01:03:49,990
And masks, the shipping company.

1865
01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:50,970
Supplies.

1866
01:03:54,030 --> 01:03:55,470
All manner of goods.

1867
01:03:55,770 --> 01:03:58,070
And also transports US exports to other countries.

1868
01:03:58,470 --> 01:04:02,050
These are Danish companies that are indispensable to

1869
01:04:02,050 --> 01:04:02,890
the United States.

1870
01:04:03,610 --> 01:04:04,570
Daily functioning.

1871
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:06,450
If they were not to be available, that

1872
01:04:06,450 --> 01:04:06,990
would be a problem.

1873
01:04:07,410 --> 01:04:09,510
OK, before I play the final clip.

1874
01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:09,870
Oh, brother.

1875
01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:11,790
OK, you got, you know, I'm going to

1876
01:04:11,790 --> 01:04:13,410
give you a borderline clip of the day

1877
01:04:13,410 --> 01:04:14,670
for that stupidity.

1878
01:04:16,690 --> 01:04:18,210
Borderline clip of the day.

1879
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:22,530
Now, here's, this is so perfect for America.

1880
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:23,790
We love this stuff.

1881
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:26,330
Just like you said, all right, we're going

1882
01:04:26,330 --> 01:04:27,290
to close Legoland.

1883
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:30,230
We're opening up Erectorset land.

1884
01:04:30,610 --> 01:04:33,010
We don't need plastic from Norway.

1885
01:04:33,730 --> 01:04:36,670
We have, we have Lincoln Logs.

1886
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:40,930
We don't need your stupid, how about Duplo?

1887
01:04:41,210 --> 01:04:45,230
Duplo is the fake Legos, Duplo probably comes

1888
01:04:45,230 --> 01:04:45,750
from China.

1889
01:04:45,770 --> 01:04:46,310
Yeah, right, those things.

1890
01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:48,710
Yeah, the Chinese will move in and take

1891
01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:49,610
this over in a minute.

1892
01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:50,710
No problem.

1893
01:04:50,890 --> 01:04:53,070
And what has Lego really done for us?

1894
01:04:53,130 --> 01:04:55,310
It's only hurt me stepping on them in

1895
01:04:55,310 --> 01:04:55,650
the middle of the night.

1896
01:04:55,650 --> 01:04:57,270
Yeah, you step on the damn things.

1897
01:04:57,390 --> 01:04:58,110
The kids go nuts.

1898
01:04:58,330 --> 01:04:58,890
They're no good.

1899
01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:00,330
They want these kits.

1900
01:05:00,490 --> 01:05:01,810
The kits cost a fortune.

1901
01:05:02,090 --> 01:05:02,770
They're outrageous.

1902
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:04,490
It's like Space Station Moon.

1903
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:04,850
Yeah.

1904
01:05:05,130 --> 01:05:05,510
What is it?

1905
01:05:05,550 --> 01:05:06,330
40 bucks.

1906
01:05:06,450 --> 01:05:06,610
What?

1907
01:05:06,670 --> 01:05:07,930
It's just a bunch of Legos in a

1908
01:05:07,930 --> 01:05:08,310
box.

1909
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:10,590
All right, why don't you keep your Ozempic?

1910
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:14,070
There's plenty other, there's Deathbound, we got Wegovy,

1911
01:05:14,350 --> 01:05:16,430
we got all kinds of other products.

1912
01:05:16,610 --> 01:05:18,610
And by the way, GLP-1 is not

1913
01:05:18,610 --> 01:05:19,110
patented.

1914
01:05:19,330 --> 01:05:20,990
I think it's public domain by now, isn't

1915
01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:21,110
it?

1916
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:21,710
GLP-1?

1917
01:05:21,850 --> 01:05:24,390
Yeah, it's like, well, there's, we have special,

1918
01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:26,110
well, listen to this as a final, we

1919
01:05:26,110 --> 01:05:27,590
have special stuff, you know, we got some

1920
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:28,970
extra bitch that you don't have in America.

1921
01:05:29,210 --> 01:05:30,250
I just want to be clear on this.

1922
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:32,390
Ozempic is not produced in the United States,

1923
01:05:32,410 --> 01:05:35,970
so if Denmark wanted to stop production in

1924
01:05:35,970 --> 01:05:38,390
Denmark and say no more for the US,

1925
01:05:38,510 --> 01:05:41,470
it could basically turn the supply of Ozempic

1926
01:05:41,470 --> 01:05:42,490
in the US to zero.

1927
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,830
Some components of Ozempic are manufactured in the

1928
01:05:45,830 --> 01:05:47,650
United States, but not the active components.

1929
01:05:47,850 --> 01:05:51,250
Without the active components, you don't have the

1930
01:05:51,250 --> 01:05:54,270
medication that you need to produce.

1931
01:05:54,830 --> 01:05:58,750
So that gives Denmark considerable leverage.

1932
01:05:59,230 --> 01:06:01,730
Now, Novo Nordic has been planning to expand

1933
01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:05,890
Ozempic manufacturing in the United States, but it's

1934
01:06:05,890 --> 01:06:09,110
not able to manufacture the entire drug from

1935
01:06:09,110 --> 01:06:11,470
scratch in the United States, even if it

1936
01:06:11,470 --> 01:06:12,150
wanted to.

1937
01:06:12,690 --> 01:06:16,850
And that would be, that means if Novo

1938
01:06:16,850 --> 01:06:18,590
Nordic were to be told by the Danish

1939
01:06:18,590 --> 01:06:22,750
government not to ship its products to the

1940
01:06:22,750 --> 01:06:25,610
United States anymore, then Ozempic would not be

1941
01:06:25,610 --> 01:06:30,570
available to American users, consumers, and patients anymore.

1942
01:06:30,790 --> 01:06:30,950
Yeah.

1943
01:06:31,010 --> 01:06:33,710
And then how about, that is basically your

1944
01:06:33,710 --> 01:06:35,830
GDP, is those two companies.

1945
01:06:36,750 --> 01:06:38,990
Yeah, let's just shoot our own company in

1946
01:06:38,990 --> 01:06:41,310
the head, not in the foot, but in

1947
01:06:41,310 --> 01:06:44,590
the head, by cutting off the main market

1948
01:06:44,590 --> 01:06:46,390
for Ozempic, which is a bunch of fat

1949
01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:48,550
Americans that are too lazy to exercise and

1950
01:06:48,550 --> 01:06:50,290
rather just take a shot in the gut.

1951
01:06:50,650 --> 01:06:52,110
We are the best.

1952
01:06:52,850 --> 01:06:53,890
You know, go ahead.

1953
01:06:53,890 --> 01:06:55,390
Oh yeah, let's cut that off.

1954
01:06:55,630 --> 01:06:56,830
That'll show us.

1955
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:58,190
We got by when we were fat.

1956
01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:58,910
We did okay.

1957
01:07:01,410 --> 01:07:02,590
We did okay.

1958
01:07:03,390 --> 01:07:06,810
Oh man, we'll just, you know, RFK Jr.,

1959
01:07:06,810 --> 01:07:07,790
we don't need you.

1960
01:07:07,790 --> 01:07:09,190
He's going to make us healthy again.

1961
01:07:09,610 --> 01:07:10,930
Oh man, I got to play this for

1962
01:07:10,930 --> 01:07:11,030
you.

1963
01:07:11,710 --> 01:07:17,190
My hate, listen, pivot, pivot, pivot, pivot.

1964
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:18,830
It was just because this was so.

1965
01:07:19,130 --> 01:07:20,810
This is like, this is like your new

1966
01:07:20,810 --> 01:07:21,330
drug.

1967
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:22,690
Oh no, it's not new.

1968
01:07:22,850 --> 01:07:24,730
I've been on, I've been, I've been mainlining

1969
01:07:24,730 --> 01:07:25,390
this drug.

1970
01:07:25,610 --> 01:07:27,930
I've been mainlining it for, for years.

1971
01:07:28,070 --> 01:07:28,830
I know I love it.

1972
01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:29,510
Very unhealthy.

1973
01:07:29,730 --> 01:07:33,570
So they're talking about Bobby the Alp, RFK

1974
01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:36,510
Jr. And of course, you know, it's an

1975
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:36,970
outrage.

1976
01:07:36,970 --> 01:07:38,990
He's, he's going to bring that polio.

1977
01:07:39,350 --> 01:07:40,590
You know, we're all going to die.

1978
01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:44,590
So we just start with, we'll start with,

1979
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:45,210
with this.

1980
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:47,650
And they had Reed Hoffman on the whole,

1981
01:07:47,790 --> 01:07:48,370
the whole show.

1982
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:50,970
So this was like my hate, listen, plus

1983
01:07:50,970 --> 01:07:52,110
some chocolate sprinkles.

1984
01:07:52,790 --> 01:07:55,650
Reed Hoffman from, he's from LinkedIn, right?

1985
01:07:56,430 --> 01:07:56,710
Yep.

1986
01:07:56,830 --> 01:07:56,970
Yeah.

1987
01:07:57,010 --> 01:07:57,330
LinkedIn.

1988
01:07:57,490 --> 01:07:57,610
Okay.

1989
01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:57,950
Here we go.

1990
01:07:58,050 --> 01:07:59,890
The fat guy from LinkedIn, who's just a

1991
01:07:59,890 --> 01:08:00,590
big Democrat.

1992
01:08:01,050 --> 01:08:01,510
Exactly.

1993
01:08:01,690 --> 01:08:03,550
The fat Democrat, a fatocrat.

1994
01:08:03,550 --> 01:08:04,010
Here we go.

1995
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:07,670
He is being paid to find people to

1996
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:12,270
sue Gardasil, an HPV vaccine that so far

1997
01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:14,770
has shown to reduce cervical cancer in women

1998
01:08:14,770 --> 01:08:15,550
by 90%.

1999
01:08:16,290 --> 01:08:18,510
I don't think it's 90%, but okay.

2000
01:08:18,990 --> 01:08:20,529
I don't know if either of you know.

2001
01:08:20,609 --> 01:08:21,390
By the way, stop.

2002
01:08:22,130 --> 01:08:22,930
That is a meme.

2003
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:25,830
I've heard it before, exactly the same ways,

2004
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:27,170
put in the same sentence.

2005
01:08:27,330 --> 01:08:30,170
And Gardasil's really got their, their words sick

2006
01:08:30,170 --> 01:08:32,330
that, you know, because we noticed that we,

2007
01:08:32,330 --> 01:08:33,750
we talked about this when it first came

2008
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:33,910
out.

2009
01:08:34,050 --> 01:08:35,710
It's, it's not a good product.

2010
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:37,990
No, we don't think it's a good product.

2011
01:08:38,069 --> 01:08:39,930
It certainly doesn't stop more than, I think,

2012
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:42,790
three strains of, uh, cervical cancer.

2013
01:08:43,350 --> 01:08:44,930
But wait, but the funniest bit is still

2014
01:08:44,930 --> 01:08:45,290
to come.

2015
01:08:45,490 --> 01:08:48,330
To reduce cervical cancer in women by 90%.

2016
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:50,729
I mean, I don't know if either of

2017
01:08:50,729 --> 01:08:52,130
you have known anyone with cervical cancer.

2018
01:08:52,210 --> 01:08:54,090
I have, my God, we have.

2019
01:08:54,310 --> 01:08:55,850
I guess you didn't advise your friends to

2020
01:08:55,850 --> 01:08:56,670
take HPV.

2021
01:08:56,870 --> 01:09:00,490
Something, we have something that can prevent nine

2022
01:09:00,490 --> 01:09:03,890
out of 10 times, this vicious, awful disease.

2023
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:08,090
And we have the head of HHS being

2024
01:09:08,090 --> 01:09:13,010
paid to try and discourage and financially damage

2025
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:13,750
that miracle.

2026
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:16,870
This guy has no business at HHS.

2027
01:09:17,250 --> 01:09:18,270
Wait, wait for it.

2028
01:09:18,330 --> 01:09:18,830
It's a miracle.

2029
01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:19,569
It's a miracle.

2030
01:09:19,750 --> 01:09:22,109
He, he, he is probably the most dangerous

2031
01:09:22,109 --> 01:09:24,330
of the nominees in terms of what it

2032
01:09:24,330 --> 01:09:27,569
could mean long-term without attribution, where in

2033
01:09:27,569 --> 01:09:29,630
10 years we wake up and go, Oh,

2034
01:09:29,810 --> 01:09:32,910
cervical cancer is back and reverse engineer it

2035
01:09:32,910 --> 01:09:37,830
to this individual who is blatantly, repeatedly anti

2036
01:09:37,830 --> 01:09:38,350
-vaccine.

2037
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:39,470
I think this is awful.

2038
01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:41,330
I made my sons get it immediately.

2039
01:09:46,910 --> 01:09:49,529
I almost fell over when I heard that.

2040
01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:52,790
Cervical cancer, women with cervical cancer.

2041
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:54,730
I made my sons get it immediately.

2042
01:09:55,690 --> 01:09:56,170
Okay.

2043
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:58,110
Oh my God.

2044
01:09:58,110 --> 01:10:00,850
Now we're going to bring in Reed Hoffman.

2045
01:10:01,370 --> 01:10:03,570
This is the new meme about Bobby.

2046
01:10:03,810 --> 01:10:06,790
So look, um, I think you got it.

2047
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:11,130
So look, so look, so look, so look,

2048
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:16,270
so look, um, I think the unfortunate prediction

2049
01:10:16,270 --> 01:10:21,130
for RFK is, you know, probable confirmation is

2050
01:10:21,130 --> 01:10:23,010
it will probably be measured in thousands of

2051
01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:24,270
American lives lost.

2052
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:25,210
Right?

2053
01:10:25,210 --> 01:10:29,530
I think that the question around, I love

2054
01:10:29,530 --> 01:10:29,730
that.

2055
01:10:30,050 --> 01:10:30,150
Right.

2056
01:10:30,510 --> 01:10:30,930
Right.

2057
01:10:31,170 --> 01:10:32,410
It's Silicon Valley talk.

2058
01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:33,970
You know, when you say something that is

2059
01:10:33,970 --> 01:10:35,450
just unbelievable, right?

2060
01:10:35,590 --> 01:10:37,890
Probable confirmation is it will probably be measured

2061
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:40,050
in thousands of American lives lost.

2062
01:10:40,710 --> 01:10:41,030
Right?

2063
01:10:41,090 --> 01:10:44,570
I think that the, the question around the

2064
01:10:44,570 --> 01:10:46,370
fact that he's saying, I'm just following science.

2065
01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:47,090
No, he's not.

2066
01:10:47,550 --> 01:10:47,810
Right.

2067
01:10:47,890 --> 01:10:50,310
It's just, it's, it's not only the anti

2068
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:54,410
vaccine in, you know, many, many, many statements

2069
01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:57,790
over decades, like he's essentially anti science.

2070
01:10:58,090 --> 01:11:00,030
Like I've heard of meetings where he is

2071
01:11:00,030 --> 01:11:03,250
meeting with, with scientists, where the scientists try

2072
01:11:03,250 --> 01:11:04,530
to tell him, no, no, you're supposed to

2073
01:11:04,530 --> 01:11:05,070
listen to me.

2074
01:11:05,150 --> 01:11:06,250
It's like, no, no.

2075
01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:08,270
The whole point is to listen to, to,

2076
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:09,770
to good scientists.

2077
01:11:09,930 --> 01:11:11,630
And I think this will be, you know,

2078
01:11:11,630 --> 01:11:14,710
if this confirmation goes through, I think the,

2079
01:11:14,830 --> 01:11:16,890
you know, the senators who vote on it

2080
01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:20,310
should track, you know, how many thousands of

2081
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:24,270
American lives they're willing to spend, you know,

2082
01:11:24,330 --> 01:11:26,550
in this calculus, because if he, you know,

2083
01:11:26,590 --> 01:11:28,670
any of the things that he has thought

2084
01:11:28,670 --> 01:11:31,310
of, he has articulated and talked about, you

2085
01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:33,970
know, I think it, the cost is going

2086
01:11:33,970 --> 01:11:35,010
to be measured in lives.

2087
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:36,730
Your cost is going to be measured in

2088
01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:39,950
lives, lives killed or created.

2089
01:11:41,650 --> 01:11:42,090
Okay.

2090
01:11:43,950 --> 01:11:45,270
So that was Reid Hoffman.

2091
01:11:45,490 --> 01:11:48,570
Now comes the kicker, the absolute kicker.

2092
01:11:48,810 --> 01:11:49,790
Not everyone kicker.

2093
01:11:49,870 --> 01:11:50,090
Yeah.

2094
01:11:50,130 --> 01:11:51,310
It's a 14 second kicker.

2095
01:11:51,310 --> 01:11:53,470
Not everybody will understand this one, but you

2096
01:11:53,470 --> 01:11:54,330
certainly will.

2097
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:57,050
Have you been, been surprised by how many

2098
01:11:57,050 --> 01:12:00,690
tech people, um, have been attracted to him?

2099
01:12:00,790 --> 01:12:02,390
I'm not going to leave out Nicole Shanahan.

2100
01:12:02,510 --> 01:12:03,610
She was not a tech person.

2101
01:12:03,650 --> 01:12:05,950
She's just a rich person who married a

2102
01:12:05,950 --> 01:12:08,250
tech person who may, and got money that

2103
01:12:08,250 --> 01:12:08,690
way.

2104
01:12:10,690 --> 01:12:13,150
Hello, pot, kettle.

2105
01:12:14,590 --> 01:12:14,810
Yeah.

2106
01:12:14,890 --> 01:12:17,030
Cause she is married to, uh, what's her

2107
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:17,970
name from Google.

2108
01:12:18,190 --> 01:12:18,350
Yeah.

2109
01:12:18,430 --> 01:12:20,430
That's how Kara Swisher got rich.

2110
01:12:20,430 --> 01:12:21,130
Yes.

2111
01:12:21,250 --> 01:12:21,550
Yeah.

2112
01:12:21,790 --> 01:12:22,070
Yeah.

2113
01:12:22,590 --> 01:12:26,010
Cause Kara, Kara's basically, uh, she wrote her

2114
01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:27,690
claim to fame when I knew her.

2115
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:29,850
Was being on, uh, the Silicon spin.

2116
01:12:30,090 --> 01:12:31,870
No, well she was on Silicon spin, but

2117
01:12:31,870 --> 01:12:33,070
her claim to fame was she wrote a

2118
01:12:33,070 --> 01:12:34,190
book about AOL.

2119
01:12:34,770 --> 01:12:35,790
Yes, exactly.

2120
01:12:36,010 --> 01:12:36,330
That's it.

2121
01:12:36,410 --> 01:12:38,770
And her book about AOL was just like

2122
01:12:38,770 --> 01:12:41,250
a classic, you know, uh, I don't know

2123
01:12:41,250 --> 01:12:43,210
if you want to, there's, there's terms for

2124
01:12:43,210 --> 01:12:45,850
these kinds of books and it's just a

2125
01:12:45,850 --> 01:12:46,370
throwaway.

2126
01:12:46,570 --> 01:12:48,090
And she, uh, crap.

2127
01:12:48,090 --> 01:12:48,910
Is that the term?

2128
01:12:49,070 --> 01:12:49,270
Crap?

2129
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:50,190
No, no, no.

2130
01:12:50,490 --> 01:12:52,770
It's actually a technical term for the kind

2131
01:12:52,770 --> 01:12:53,950
of book she wrote.

2132
01:12:54,370 --> 01:12:55,530
it doesn't again.

2133
01:12:55,890 --> 01:12:56,210
Yeah.

2134
01:12:56,270 --> 01:12:57,770
It's not a good day.

2135
01:12:57,870 --> 01:12:58,570
It's not a good day.

2136
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:59,530
Too much.

2137
01:12:59,610 --> 01:13:00,330
Not enough sleep.

2138
01:13:00,410 --> 01:13:01,090
That's what it is.

2139
01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:03,930
Uh, she, uh, science fiction.

2140
01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:04,650
Is that what it's called?

2141
01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:05,330
Science fiction.

2142
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:07,650
No, it's, it's, it's like cut and paste.

2143
01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:11,730
It's a, it's a term I've long lost,

2144
01:13:11,730 --> 01:13:13,750
but it's a book where you throw stuff

2145
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:16,090
together based on most work that other people

2146
01:13:16,090 --> 01:13:16,370
did.

2147
01:13:16,370 --> 01:13:16,730
Ghost.

2148
01:13:17,130 --> 01:13:18,250
It's a research book.

2149
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:18,710
You just do.

2150
01:13:18,930 --> 01:13:20,610
No, it's a research where you just do

2151
01:13:20,610 --> 01:13:22,050
a bunch of stuff that's out there and

2152
01:13:22,050 --> 01:13:23,070
you package it.

2153
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:24,010
Coloring book.

2154
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:25,230
Yes.

2155
01:13:25,330 --> 01:13:25,990
A coloring book.

2156
01:13:26,030 --> 01:13:27,310
Let me get back to the point.

2157
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:27,690
Okay.

2158
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:31,170
So, uh, she was brought on the silicone

2159
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:32,430
spin because of this book.

2160
01:13:32,590 --> 01:13:34,290
And it was obvious to me that she

2161
01:13:34,290 --> 01:13:36,330
knew nothing about, she was not a techie

2162
01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:37,230
by any means.

2163
01:13:37,330 --> 01:13:38,370
I mean, the people that we had on

2164
01:13:38,370 --> 01:13:41,970
that show were technical people and a lot

2165
01:13:41,970 --> 01:13:43,070
of them were engineers.

2166
01:13:43,070 --> 01:13:45,470
And we had a lot of CEOs and,

2167
01:13:45,550 --> 01:13:47,450
you know, that type of guy that, but

2168
01:13:47,450 --> 01:13:49,770
the CEO, startup CEOs, the guys who knew

2169
01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:50,470
what they were doing.

2170
01:13:50,770 --> 01:13:51,890
And she was never that way.

2171
01:13:51,930 --> 01:13:53,210
She was just a good talker.

2172
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:54,070
She was a good talker.

2173
01:13:55,190 --> 01:13:57,570
And, and had a, just, and she was

2174
01:13:57,570 --> 01:13:58,090
married to Megan.

2175
01:13:58,610 --> 01:13:58,970
Yeah.

2176
01:13:59,050 --> 01:14:00,290
And I think she made a lot of

2177
01:14:00,290 --> 01:14:01,350
money out of the divorce.

2178
01:14:02,030 --> 01:14:03,090
Yeah, I'm sure she did.

2179
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:03,370
Right.

2180
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:05,630
So she's saying Nicole Shanahan, she's not a

2181
01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:05,930
techie.

2182
01:14:06,190 --> 01:14:08,050
She just married a tech guy and got

2183
01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:09,110
a lot of money out of it.

2184
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:11,430
It's like, come on, projecting.

2185
01:14:12,530 --> 01:14:14,710
A pop-up book is being suggested.

2186
01:14:15,330 --> 01:14:16,450
It's a pop-up book.

2187
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:19,690
Well, she also got, she also worked with,

2188
01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:22,310
she had the show, uh, carried it with

2189
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:22,590
this.

2190
01:14:22,730 --> 01:14:24,590
Uh, eventually she went on to work with,

2191
01:14:24,710 --> 01:14:26,650
uh, Walt Mossberg.

2192
01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:27,110
Yes.

2193
01:14:27,230 --> 01:14:27,530
Yes.

2194
01:14:27,530 --> 01:14:29,110
At the wall street journal and had the

2195
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:30,070
D3 conference.

2196
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:36,630
A real actual, unlike myself, uh, actual curmudgeon.

2197
01:14:37,050 --> 01:14:37,530
Yes.

2198
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:40,330
Who, uh, thought he, his shit didn't stink.

2199
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:44,910
And he was, uh, just, um, a blowhard

2200
01:14:44,910 --> 01:14:47,290
of, of, I am thankful.

2201
01:14:47,650 --> 01:14:49,210
I regard, I am thankful though, to, to

2202
01:14:49,210 --> 01:14:52,070
Walt and Kara, as it was at the

2203
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:54,550
D3 conference that Steve jobs invited me to

2204
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:55,730
come have a meeting with her.

2205
01:14:56,170 --> 01:14:58,690
So in, in a way, you know, Kara

2206
01:14:58,690 --> 01:15:00,550
is where she should just claim that if

2207
01:15:00,550 --> 01:15:02,090
it wasn't for me, Curry never would have

2208
01:15:02,090 --> 01:15:03,910
spoken to jobs and never would have gotten

2209
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:04,950
into podcasting.

2210
01:15:04,990 --> 01:15:05,730
Never would have happened.

2211
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:08,010
She could, she'd do it.

2212
01:15:08,010 --> 01:15:08,910
He's not a techie.

2213
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:10,070
He's just a VJ.

2214
01:15:12,010 --> 01:15:13,070
She could go there.

2215
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:14,750
They're still shopping their show.

2216
01:15:14,930 --> 01:15:15,570
I know better.

2217
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:16,790
Yeah, you do.

2218
01:15:16,830 --> 01:15:18,490
You're more of a techie than a VJ.

2219
01:15:18,610 --> 01:15:19,410
Shh, don't tell anybody.

2220
01:15:20,610 --> 01:15:22,450
And, uh, but you do, you do, you

2221
01:15:22,450 --> 01:15:23,290
do like your voice.

2222
01:15:23,410 --> 01:15:23,990
It's different.

2223
01:15:24,270 --> 01:15:25,990
I certainly like my own voice.

2224
01:15:26,110 --> 01:15:26,290
Yes.

2225
01:15:27,470 --> 01:15:29,810
Let's do tariffs, John, because everyone's going crazy.

2226
01:15:29,890 --> 01:15:32,010
It came out Friday tariffs are going for

2227
01:15:32,010 --> 01:15:34,250
tariffs, big, beautiful, the most beautiful word in

2228
01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:35,550
the dictionary is tariffs.

2229
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:37,210
And I see some clips.

2230
01:15:37,210 --> 01:15:38,890
I have three clips on tariffs.

2231
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:40,050
I could have had a couple more.

2232
01:15:40,150 --> 01:15:41,270
I was going to get last night, but

2233
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:42,430
I was getting late.

2234
01:15:42,570 --> 01:15:43,230
I said, screw it.

2235
01:15:43,730 --> 01:15:46,290
The BBC had some work done.

2236
01:15:46,650 --> 01:15:47,670
Uh, they had brought, brought somebody.

2237
01:15:47,870 --> 01:15:50,090
I actually, I actually have a BBC, uh,

2238
01:15:50,090 --> 01:15:50,730
tariffs clip.

2239
01:15:50,930 --> 01:15:52,690
Why don't you play the BBC tariffs clip?

2240
01:15:52,750 --> 01:15:53,270
Then I'm going to play.

2241
01:15:53,410 --> 01:15:55,890
These are, these clips are mostly analysis and

2242
01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:57,870
they, they all come, I believe from NPR.

2243
01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:00,370
For decades, trade wars looked to be a

2244
01:16:00,370 --> 01:16:01,250
thing of the past.

2245
01:16:01,430 --> 01:16:04,250
The future instead seemed to belong to globalization,

2246
01:16:04,670 --> 01:16:07,190
to China and to the big regional trading

2247
01:16:07,190 --> 01:16:07,290
powers.

2248
01:16:07,290 --> 01:16:11,210
No more from today, Saturday, the United States

2249
01:16:11,210 --> 01:16:14,070
says it's imposing tariffs on its three biggest

2250
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:14,970
trading partners.

2251
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:17,550
Speaking at the white house on Friday, president

2252
01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:19,730
Trump said he would deliver on his campaign

2253
01:16:19,730 --> 01:16:22,550
pledge to impose tough tariffs on imports from

2254
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:24,450
China, Canada, and Mexico.

2255
01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:28,550
We have about a $200 billion deficit with,

2256
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:31,770
with Canada, getting close to $200 billion.

2257
01:16:32,250 --> 01:16:34,670
It's, they've treated us very unfairly.

2258
01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:37,170
And I say, why should we be subsidized?

2259
01:16:37,170 --> 01:16:39,510
Canada, they, you know, it's wonderful.

2260
01:16:39,710 --> 01:16:40,970
I have so many friends in Canada.

2261
01:16:41,150 --> 01:16:41,830
It's a great place.

2262
01:16:42,270 --> 01:16:43,090
We'll see what happens.

2263
01:16:43,170 --> 01:16:44,970
And with Mexico, it's the same thing, wonderful

2264
01:16:44,970 --> 01:16:48,230
friends, $250 billion deficit.

2265
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:51,250
As we record this podcast, it's still not

2266
01:16:51,250 --> 01:16:53,850
clear if there'll be any exemptions, but the

2267
01:16:53,850 --> 01:16:56,390
threat of high tariffs brought this response from

2268
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:58,710
the former bank of England, governor Mark Carney,

2269
01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:01,030
who's currently on the campaign trail to take

2270
01:17:01,030 --> 01:17:03,070
over as leader of the liberal party and

2271
01:17:03,070 --> 01:17:05,570
as Canadian prime minister from Justin Trudeau.

2272
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:09,550
I think, uh, President Trump probably thinks, uh,

2273
01:17:09,550 --> 01:17:11,450
that we in Canada will cave in, but

2274
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:13,470
we're, we are going to stand up to

2275
01:17:13,470 --> 01:17:13,810
a bully.

2276
01:17:13,930 --> 01:17:15,410
We're not going to back down.

2277
01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:16,070
We're united.

2278
01:17:16,610 --> 01:17:19,090
Um, and, we will retaliate.

2279
01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:23,110
Ultimately the, uh, the steps that, uh, the

2280
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:26,310
president is taking against Canada, contemplating, I guess

2281
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:29,310
as well against Mexico, China, others, uh, and

2282
01:17:29,310 --> 01:17:31,430
threatening the world, uh, are going to rebound

2283
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:32,850
negatively on the United States.

2284
01:17:32,850 --> 01:17:33,710
They're going to hit growth.

2285
01:17:33,790 --> 01:17:34,730
They're going to move up inflation.

2286
01:17:34,810 --> 01:17:36,610
They're going to raise, uh, uh, interest rates.

2287
01:17:36,690 --> 01:17:38,870
They're going to damage the U S reputation

2288
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:39,950
around the world.

2289
01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:42,550
It might be good before you get into

2290
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:45,750
your analysis clips to explain what, what, what

2291
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:47,910
a trade deficit is and how it works.

2292
01:17:47,970 --> 01:17:50,190
Cause no one, no one in the M5M

2293
01:17:50,190 --> 01:17:50,990
does that.

2294
01:17:51,010 --> 01:17:53,690
No one explains when Trump says they're ripping

2295
01:17:53,690 --> 01:17:54,970
us off $200 billion.

2296
01:17:55,210 --> 01:17:57,410
No one has, there's just no explanation.

2297
01:17:57,810 --> 01:17:59,370
And I'd love to hear it myself.

2298
01:18:00,030 --> 01:18:01,310
Well, you know what it is?

2299
01:18:01,310 --> 01:18:03,590
It's like I have, I'm making a product

2300
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:09,870
that's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

2301
01:18:10,290 --> 01:18:18,510
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

2302
01:18:35,010 --> 01:18:36,210
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

2303
01:18:36,210 --> 01:18:36,430
uh, there's 2 and 0.

2304
01:18:36,430 --> 01:18:38,930
for example, we buy beef that comes from

2305
01:18:38,930 --> 01:18:41,710
China and we send our Texas beef over

2306
01:18:41,710 --> 01:18:43,530
there to be sold like caviar.

2307
01:18:44,150 --> 01:18:45,170
We buy pork.

2308
01:18:45,330 --> 01:18:45,550
Probably.

2309
01:18:45,670 --> 01:18:45,950
That's what?

2310
01:18:46,170 --> 01:18:48,250
That's their business to how they sell the

2311
01:18:48,250 --> 01:18:48,510
product.

2312
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:50,450
But the point is, is that I'm going

2313
01:18:50,450 --> 01:18:52,030
to go back to the Simma mugs.

2314
01:18:52,150 --> 01:18:53,730
So I make $50 million worth of mugs.

2315
01:18:53,810 --> 01:18:55,330
I sent $50 million worth of mugs to

2316
01:18:55,330 --> 01:18:55,610
China.

2317
01:18:55,710 --> 01:18:57,790
They make a hundred million dollars for the

2318
01:18:57,790 --> 01:18:59,670
mugs and they send our country a hundred

2319
01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:00,370
million dollars.

2320
01:19:00,370 --> 01:19:02,870
we're in the hole $50 million.

2321
01:19:03,970 --> 01:19:06,790
So that's the trade deficit is that we're

2322
01:19:06,790 --> 01:19:10,250
sending X amount over there, they're sending X

2323
01:19:10,250 --> 01:19:11,650
times two over here.

2324
01:19:12,130 --> 01:19:17,190
So our outflow is going to them instead

2325
01:19:17,190 --> 01:19:18,170
of coming this way.

2326
01:19:18,370 --> 01:19:20,430
So the money, we're just basically throwing money

2327
01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:21,210
away.

2328
01:19:21,810 --> 01:19:24,330
And this is done, this is created usually

2329
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:26,950
by the cost of labor or the efficiencies

2330
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:28,530
of the business or the fact that the

2331
01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:31,890
Chinese are subsidizing government subsidizing their companies or

2332
01:19:31,890 --> 01:19:33,110
they all own the companies.

2333
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:34,850
There's a lot of different reasons for it,

2334
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:38,210
but you end up with Canada sending more

2335
01:19:38,210 --> 01:19:40,410
product to us than we send to them.

2336
01:19:40,590 --> 01:19:42,570
They just won't, they're either not buying our

2337
01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:46,210
product or they're blocking our products or they're

2338
01:19:46,210 --> 01:19:48,490
marketing against our products, whatever the case is

2339
01:19:48,490 --> 01:19:49,190
not balanced.

2340
01:19:49,370 --> 01:19:51,770
And what Trump always wants and everybody wants

2341
01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:55,510
is balanced trade, which is you send 500

2342
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:58,490
million over to us, we send you 500

2343
01:19:58,490 --> 01:19:59,670
million of something else.

2344
01:20:00,050 --> 01:20:01,770
And that's the idea of world trade is

2345
01:20:01,770 --> 01:20:02,730
that it's supposed to be all balanced.

2346
01:20:02,850 --> 01:20:05,390
You get so lopsided that you're in the

2347
01:20:05,390 --> 01:20:08,030
hold of these countries and that's the balance

2348
01:20:08,030 --> 01:20:08,550
of trade.

2349
01:20:08,850 --> 01:20:11,810
That's what it's referring to.

2350
01:20:11,950 --> 01:20:13,630
And was that the original idea with the

2351
01:20:13,630 --> 01:20:16,050
World Trade Organization that that would all be

2352
01:20:16,050 --> 01:20:16,190
balanced?

2353
01:20:16,190 --> 01:20:18,170
The World Trade Organization was set up to

2354
01:20:18,170 --> 01:20:19,990
make sure that this system worked right.

2355
01:20:20,150 --> 01:20:21,750
So you didn't have these kinds of, that's

2356
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:23,890
where the Chinese are going at with this

2357
01:20:23,890 --> 01:20:25,830
10% that Trump said he's gonna, ah,

2358
01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:27,330
10% China, everything.

2359
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:30,090
And which would include a lot of stuff.

2360
01:20:30,370 --> 01:20:32,250
But it won't really mean much because China's

2361
01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:33,390
stuff is so cheap anyways.

2362
01:20:34,170 --> 01:20:36,930
But they're gonna immediately, and they've done this

2363
01:20:36,930 --> 01:20:40,430
before, they'd go to the WTO, which was,

2364
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:42,090
they were given membership, this was.

2365
01:20:42,810 --> 01:20:43,450
They go crying?

2366
01:20:44,430 --> 01:20:46,250
Yeah, and the last time they went to

2367
01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:50,650
the WTO, the WTO ruled in their favor

2368
01:20:51,190 --> 01:20:52,950
and we had to pull back some tariffs

2369
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:53,670
of some sort.

2370
01:20:53,670 --> 01:20:54,950
And they're gonna do it again.

2371
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:57,830
They already said that and that was discussed

2372
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:59,650
in the BBC reports that I heard that

2373
01:20:59,650 --> 01:21:02,410
the Chinese are just gonna bitch to the

2374
01:21:02,410 --> 01:21:05,130
WTO and, you know, tell us to pound

2375
01:21:05,130 --> 01:21:05,550
salt.

2376
01:21:06,510 --> 01:21:07,830
I don't think they're gonna get it.

2377
01:21:07,930 --> 01:21:09,110
They haven't done anything.

2378
01:21:10,110 --> 01:21:11,890
The real tariff that nobody wants to talk

2379
01:21:11,890 --> 01:21:14,390
about is the 100% tariff that Trump

2380
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:17,730
has, and I think this has been going

2381
01:21:17,730 --> 01:21:23,250
on since first Trump, Trump won on electric

2382
01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:23,810
vehicles.

2383
01:21:24,010 --> 01:21:28,050
But that's why we see no Chinese electric

2384
01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:28,910
cars on the road.

2385
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:31,810
We don't see BYD, which is probably the

2386
01:21:31,810 --> 01:21:33,950
fastest growing car company in the world.

2387
01:21:34,630 --> 01:21:37,630
And I think they'll surpass Toyota in the

2388
01:21:37,630 --> 01:21:37,930
next.

2389
01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:42,290
No, they can do sponsorships on NPR instead

2390
01:21:42,290 --> 01:21:43,570
of the Toyota Tercel.

2391
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:45,870
They can do the BYD.

2392
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:48,250
By the way, when's the last time Toyota

2393
01:21:48,250 --> 01:21:49,490
made a Tercel?

2394
01:21:49,970 --> 01:21:51,630
Yeah, well, that's how old those people are

2395
01:21:51,630 --> 01:21:52,070
at NPR.

2396
01:21:52,350 --> 01:21:53,110
That's how they think.

2397
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:54,350
I think in those terms.

2398
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:59,870
They sold WNPR, brought to you by Toyota

2399
01:21:59,870 --> 01:22:00,370
Tercel.

2400
01:22:00,390 --> 01:22:02,250
I mean, I can't explain it any better

2401
01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:02,810
than that.

2402
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:04,210
I mean, it's- Yeah, okay, good.

2403
01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:04,890
No, that's good.

2404
01:22:04,990 --> 01:22:05,510
I appreciate it.

2405
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:07,030
It just means you're not selling enough.

2406
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:08,250
You're not exporting enough.

2407
01:22:08,350 --> 01:22:10,270
You must understand that some of our younger

2408
01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:12,450
listeners have never had this education.

2409
01:22:12,610 --> 01:22:13,070
They don't know.

2410
01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:14,670
This is not taught in school.

2411
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:15,870
They don't teach.

2412
01:22:15,870 --> 01:22:18,090
They should be teaching civics in school before

2413
01:22:18,090 --> 01:22:18,490
anything.

2414
01:22:18,690 --> 01:22:19,050
Well, true.

2415
01:22:20,970 --> 01:22:22,230
All right, let's get into your analysis.

2416
01:22:23,010 --> 01:22:25,510
Okay, so we're gonna start with, I guess

2417
01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:26,950
this is from PBS now that I think

2418
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:27,450
about it.

2419
01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:30,090
But we'll find out by hearing the voices.

2420
01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:31,610
Here we go with the tariff intro.

2421
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:35,710
America's biggest trading partners are bracing for sweeping

2422
01:22:35,710 --> 01:22:37,470
tariffs that President Trump is imposing.

2423
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:40,870
25% on imports from Canada and Mexico,

2424
01:22:41,090 --> 01:22:43,890
except 10% on energy products from Canada.

2425
01:22:44,530 --> 01:22:46,450
Tariff threats have been a bargaining chip in

2426
01:22:46,450 --> 01:22:48,730
Mr. Trump's effort to get America's neighbors to

2427
01:22:48,730 --> 01:22:50,950
curb the flow of migrants and drugs into

2428
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:51,770
the United States.

2429
01:22:52,270 --> 01:22:54,890
Together, Canada, Mexico, and China account for nearly

2430
01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:57,390
half of all U.S. imports, and tariffs

2431
01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:00,350
could mean higher prices for American consumers.

2432
01:23:01,050 --> 01:23:03,410
Ali Rogin explores the trickle-down effects of

2433
01:23:03,410 --> 01:23:06,250
these tariffs with Martina Steves-Gridner.

2434
01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:08,610
She's the Canadian bureau chief for The New

2435
01:23:08,610 --> 01:23:09,190
York Times.

2436
01:23:09,710 --> 01:23:11,750
And before we get into that, we have

2437
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:12,810
the USMCA.

2438
01:23:13,330 --> 01:23:16,430
And the USMCA allows in this year, I

2439
01:23:16,430 --> 01:23:19,210
believe, for the President of the United States,

2440
01:23:19,370 --> 01:23:21,410
uniquely the President of the United States, to

2441
01:23:21,410 --> 01:23:22,990
renegotiate the deal.

2442
01:23:23,190 --> 01:23:24,930
If we don't like how it's going, that

2443
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:26,470
was a big deal to put that in.

2444
01:23:26,710 --> 01:23:29,110
Another one of our fine deals were, hey,

2445
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:31,770
we don't like what you're doing, we'll stop.

2446
01:23:31,770 --> 01:23:33,150
Well, then don't do business with us.

2447
01:23:33,490 --> 01:23:34,530
So we put that in there.

2448
01:23:35,070 --> 01:23:37,750
I believe that the- We're fair.

2449
01:23:38,410 --> 01:23:41,610
The workaround here is by saying, I'm doing

2450
01:23:41,610 --> 01:23:47,090
it for immigration and drug trafficking.

2451
01:23:47,230 --> 01:23:48,670
I think that's a workaround.

2452
01:23:49,310 --> 01:23:51,750
Because how is he actually going to measure

2453
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:54,710
this and say, oh, well, we got less

2454
01:23:54,710 --> 01:23:55,550
fentanyl.

2455
01:23:55,730 --> 01:23:56,750
How do we know this?

2456
01:23:57,370 --> 01:23:59,370
Well, this is the interesting thing about it,

2457
01:23:59,370 --> 01:24:02,310
because what you just said there is kind

2458
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:03,250
of what I'm thinking.

2459
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:06,210
I have a skeptical thought in my mind

2460
01:24:06,210 --> 01:24:09,370
when he introduces the New York Times bureau

2461
01:24:09,370 --> 01:24:09,850
chief.

2462
01:24:09,850 --> 01:24:11,130
I'm thinking New York Times, oh, this will

2463
01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:12,430
be interesting from Canada.

2464
01:24:13,210 --> 01:24:15,110
I said, this is, and I started recording

2465
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:15,930
it for this reason.

2466
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:17,330
I said, oh, this is going to be

2467
01:24:17,330 --> 01:24:18,190
a gem.

2468
01:24:18,590 --> 01:24:20,330
It turns out I was completely wrong.

2469
01:24:20,450 --> 01:24:23,750
She's really good at analyzing this.

2470
01:24:24,290 --> 01:24:26,690
And except the one thing that keeps cropping

2471
01:24:26,690 --> 01:24:28,630
up with everybody who talks about this is

2472
01:24:28,630 --> 01:24:31,930
they, oh, the Mexicans, we're going to be

2473
01:24:31,930 --> 01:24:34,350
suffering because of the avocados.

2474
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:37,110
And you know- They keep bringing avocados

2475
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:38,490
up, like we're going to die.

2476
01:24:38,490 --> 01:24:40,930
Remember, Super Bowl Sunday is next week.

2477
01:24:40,990 --> 01:24:42,190
We're all going to die if we don't

2478
01:24:42,190 --> 01:24:43,090
have our avocados.

2479
01:24:43,210 --> 01:24:44,010
We need our guac.

2480
01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:45,510
Without guac, there's no game.

2481
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:48,050
Well, guac and avocado toast, don't forget that.

2482
01:24:48,190 --> 01:24:49,930
Oh, woo, all the young kids.

2483
01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:53,170
So, you know, you can, well, you know,

2484
01:24:53,690 --> 01:24:56,030
just as not to change the subject completely,

2485
01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:57,750
but I will say, I've talked about this

2486
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:59,510
on the show before, if you can get

2487
01:24:59,510 --> 01:25:01,450
Peruvian- Yeah, they're better.

2488
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:02,690
They're better.

2489
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:03,170
Yeah.

2490
01:25:04,090 --> 01:25:06,830
And of course, we do grow avocados in

2491
01:25:06,830 --> 01:25:08,190
California, which are quite good.

2492
01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:11,190
The Mexican avocados are actually, I think, second

2493
01:25:11,190 --> 01:25:13,130
rate, but that's just my opinion.

2494
01:25:13,130 --> 01:25:14,470
But, you know, they're from California.

2495
01:25:14,590 --> 01:25:15,290
They're commivados.

2496
01:25:15,490 --> 01:25:18,190
We don't want communist avocados.

2497
01:25:18,330 --> 01:25:20,970
We want a good Mexican avocado, but you're

2498
01:25:20,970 --> 01:25:21,130
right.

2499
01:25:21,210 --> 01:25:22,190
That's the only thing.

2500
01:25:22,270 --> 01:25:24,290
It's tequila, tomatoes.

2501
01:25:24,410 --> 01:25:25,270
That's the other one.

2502
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:25,610
You're right.

2503
01:25:26,090 --> 01:25:26,490
Tequila.

2504
01:25:26,770 --> 01:25:28,330
You're not going to get any more tequila.

2505
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:30,990
I mean, is anyone sitting at home like,

2506
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:33,630
oh no, oh no, what am I going

2507
01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:33,990
to do?

2508
01:25:34,230 --> 01:25:35,190
We'll drink- Limes.

2509
01:25:35,190 --> 01:25:37,170
We'll drink bourbon, whatever.

2510
01:25:37,490 --> 01:25:38,090
It's fine.

2511
01:25:38,170 --> 01:25:39,270
All right, we'll go to tariff two.

2512
01:25:39,610 --> 01:25:41,490
Matina, thank you so much for joining us.

2513
01:25:41,790 --> 01:25:44,710
Mexican and Canadian officials have said they plan

2514
01:25:44,710 --> 01:25:46,650
to impose retaliatory tariffs.

2515
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:49,970
What is the effect on Americans in all

2516
01:25:49,970 --> 01:25:50,270
this?

2517
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:52,750
I think the immediate effect, or experts say

2518
01:25:52,750 --> 01:25:54,950
the immediate effect, is going to be inflation,

2519
01:25:55,190 --> 01:25:57,010
is going to be higher prices, a disruption

2520
01:25:57,010 --> 01:25:59,490
of several industries that are so closely linked

2521
01:25:59,490 --> 01:26:01,290
to Canada and Mexico.

2522
01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:04,650
Things such as avocados or even vehicles could

2523
01:26:04,650 --> 01:26:07,930
become much more expensive for Americans really quickly.

2524
01:26:08,830 --> 01:26:10,750
You mentioned some of the consumer items, but

2525
01:26:10,750 --> 01:26:12,690
what do we know about what sectors of

2526
01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:14,810
the U.S. economy are going to be

2527
01:26:14,810 --> 01:26:18,610
most affected by these tariffs going into effect?

2528
01:26:18,850 --> 01:26:21,150
The Canadian government is certainly going to be

2529
01:26:21,150 --> 01:26:24,270
imposing retaliatory tariffs in key industries in the

2530
01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:26,510
U.S. that they think will hurt the

2531
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:29,470
most because they're trying to change the course

2532
01:26:29,470 --> 01:26:30,290
of this policy.

2533
01:26:30,410 --> 01:26:31,830
They want to exert maximum pain.

2534
01:26:32,170 --> 01:26:35,570
And that could include anything from Kentucky bourbon,

2535
01:26:35,650 --> 01:26:37,950
they've told me, to orange juice coming from

2536
01:26:37,950 --> 01:26:41,070
California, to dishwashers made in Wisconsin.

2537
01:26:41,490 --> 01:26:43,150
So they have a long list of goods

2538
01:26:43,150 --> 01:26:45,670
that they believe that they can impose tariffs

2539
01:26:45,670 --> 01:26:47,570
on made in the United States.

2540
01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:50,770
And they will want to disrupt those industries

2541
01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:52,590
in the U.S. as quickly as possible.

2542
01:26:53,130 --> 01:26:54,850
And of course, the economies and the people

2543
01:26:54,850 --> 01:26:56,870
of Canada and Mexico are going to be

2544
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:57,790
impacted as well.

2545
01:26:58,190 --> 01:27:00,650
What are the consequences for people in those

2546
01:27:00,650 --> 01:27:01,210
two countries?

2547
01:27:01,210 --> 01:27:01,990
Absolutely.

2548
01:27:02,290 --> 01:27:05,450
The U.S. will hurt, but Mexico and

2549
01:27:05,450 --> 01:27:07,350
Canada will hurt more and faster.

2550
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:10,430
We expect, for example, in Canada, the country

2551
01:27:10,430 --> 01:27:12,910
will probably tip into a recession of 2

2552
01:27:12,910 --> 01:27:14,970
.6%, experts tell us here.

2553
01:27:15,410 --> 01:27:17,730
We expect hundreds of thousands of jobs to

2554
01:27:17,730 --> 01:27:19,930
be affected, half a million jobs just here

2555
01:27:19,930 --> 01:27:21,230
in Ontario, where I live.

2556
01:27:21,810 --> 01:27:24,790
And also the availability of certain goods will

2557
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:27,090
be disrupted as these tariffs come into play.

2558
01:27:27,490 --> 01:27:29,350
The pain will be longer for those two

2559
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:31,290
smaller economies than it will be for the

2560
01:27:31,290 --> 01:27:32,030
United States.

2561
01:27:33,330 --> 01:27:37,630
You know, for years, since the beginning of

2562
01:27:37,630 --> 01:27:40,910
this program, in its 18th year now, we

2563
01:27:40,910 --> 01:27:42,990
have always given Canada a break.

2564
01:27:43,630 --> 01:27:48,390
Like, if you support us with 200 Canadian

2565
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:51,590
dollars, which now is like, what is it?

2566
01:27:52,050 --> 01:27:53,870
67 cents a dollar, I think.

2567
01:27:54,650 --> 01:27:55,950
It's like, no, it's like $150.

2568
01:27:56,710 --> 01:27:59,490
But we still give you the associate executive

2569
01:27:59,490 --> 01:28:00,290
producer credit.

2570
01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:03,230
I mean, is it time to reevaluate that?

2571
01:28:03,310 --> 01:28:05,090
Should we be more patriotic?

2572
01:28:05,310 --> 01:28:05,870
Should we be on that?

2573
01:28:05,950 --> 01:28:09,050
Should we be consolidated with, or what would

2574
01:28:09,050 --> 01:28:11,490
it be, compadre with Trump?

2575
01:28:11,610 --> 01:28:12,570
We should go with Trump.

2576
01:28:12,710 --> 01:28:13,810
Yeah, we should do tariffs.

2577
01:28:14,250 --> 01:28:15,450
And cut this Canadian, no.

2578
01:28:16,250 --> 01:28:18,370
I will say, no, we're not gonna do

2579
01:28:18,370 --> 01:28:21,630
that because we're not a political show at

2580
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:21,870
all.

2581
01:28:22,050 --> 01:28:24,910
No, we very rarely talk about politics.

2582
01:28:26,370 --> 01:28:28,290
I'm being facetious a little bit, but.

2583
01:28:28,290 --> 01:28:31,050
But will there be a rift between Americans

2584
01:28:31,050 --> 01:28:31,690
and Canadians?

2585
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:33,410
Will the people- Will the Canadian dollar

2586
01:28:33,410 --> 01:28:35,550
fall even further is the question I'd be

2587
01:28:35,550 --> 01:28:37,590
asking as far as donations are concerned.

2588
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:40,010
We'll still support you, Canada.

2589
01:28:40,370 --> 01:28:41,230
We love you guys.

2590
01:28:41,330 --> 01:28:41,870
You're a producer.

2591
01:28:42,110 --> 01:28:43,090
You're in Gitmo Nation.

2592
01:28:43,210 --> 01:28:44,110
You're not in a country.

2593
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:44,970
You're in Gitmo.

2594
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:47,490
You know, I'll talk about this later in

2595
01:28:47,490 --> 01:28:49,310
the show, but we had the Albany meetup.

2596
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:50,390
Yeah, I can't wait to hear about it.

2597
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:52,210
Which was very entertaining in this.

2598
01:28:53,250 --> 01:28:54,190
Yeah, I saw a picture.

2599
01:28:54,190 --> 01:28:55,190
I saw a picture.

2600
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:56,470
You looked very entertained.

2601
01:28:56,890 --> 01:28:58,550
Well, I don't know if I'd look entertained

2602
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:58,930
ever.

2603
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:59,570
No, you don't.

2604
01:29:00,050 --> 01:29:02,890
You looked like, they're taking a picture of

2605
01:29:02,890 --> 01:29:03,030
me.

2606
01:29:03,550 --> 01:29:05,070
Oh yeah, I don't like those pictures.

2607
01:29:05,330 --> 01:29:08,730
Anyway, so it came up in the conversation

2608
01:29:08,730 --> 01:29:12,150
though that we've lost all of our Australian

2609
01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:15,650
donors and supporters.

2610
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:18,010
We have nobody that's, but we have, I

2611
01:29:18,010 --> 01:29:21,790
think we had one last show, one from

2612
01:29:21,790 --> 01:29:23,150
New South Wales.

2613
01:29:24,370 --> 01:29:25,330
Yeah, yeah.

2614
01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:30,250
And we're starting to lose our English supporters.

2615
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:31,710
Well, they're not allowed.

2616
01:29:31,790 --> 01:29:32,590
They're not allowed.

2617
01:29:32,770 --> 01:29:33,390
They're afraid to support us.

2618
01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:34,850
I don't even want to hear this show

2619
01:29:34,850 --> 01:29:35,130
anymore.

2620
01:29:35,390 --> 01:29:35,910
I don't know.

2621
01:29:36,050 --> 01:29:36,970
We may be blocked.

2622
01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:38,930
It's possible, yeah.

2623
01:29:39,590 --> 01:29:41,410
Do you think that people just hate us

2624
01:29:41,410 --> 01:29:42,170
because we're Americans?

2625
01:29:42,410 --> 01:29:43,790
Is that where this is going?

2626
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:48,210
No, I think that, I'm not sure where

2627
01:29:48,210 --> 01:29:50,450
it's going or why it's happening, but I

2628
01:29:50,450 --> 01:29:52,570
think these, maybe they're not getting enough attention

2629
01:29:52,570 --> 01:29:55,050
from us, even though we do produce a

2630
01:29:55,050 --> 01:29:55,310
lot of material.

2631
01:29:55,310 --> 01:29:57,110
Well, the attention they get from us is

2632
01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:58,830
usually not positive.

2633
01:29:59,150 --> 01:29:59,490
Yeah, let's see.

2634
01:29:59,650 --> 01:30:01,690
Yeah, we're giving them too much negative attention.

2635
01:30:01,890 --> 01:30:03,910
We're moaning and groaning about the Brits and

2636
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:04,230
their censorship.

2637
01:30:04,230 --> 01:30:04,830
I'm looking at the list.

2638
01:30:05,130 --> 01:30:08,470
We have one Dutch producer, one Italian producer,

2639
01:30:09,250 --> 01:30:15,310
one from Portugal, and one from Western Australia,

2640
01:30:15,630 --> 01:30:20,230
one from Japan, and, oh, there's a couple

2641
01:30:20,230 --> 01:30:24,190
of, there's a couple of sustaining donors from

2642
01:30:24,190 --> 01:30:24,670
the UK.

2643
01:30:24,970 --> 01:30:26,850
I see one from Belgium, but yeah.

2644
01:30:27,230 --> 01:30:28,450
Well, maybe that's our own fault.

2645
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:28,910
I don't know.

2646
01:30:29,630 --> 01:30:30,570
I can't help it.

2647
01:30:30,610 --> 01:30:31,770
I can't help it that you guys are

2648
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:32,230
lost.

2649
01:30:32,510 --> 01:30:34,030
Your government is lost, at least.

2650
01:30:34,190 --> 01:30:35,510
You know, we are- And we do

2651
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:37,970
gross about the EU more than any other

2652
01:30:37,970 --> 01:30:38,250
podcast.

2653
01:30:38,770 --> 01:30:40,250
And maybe they don't like the mirror.

2654
01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:41,810
Like, look what's happening.

2655
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:44,110
That's possible.

2656
01:30:44,370 --> 01:30:47,090
Well, we're sorry if we- We're sorry,

2657
01:30:47,230 --> 01:30:49,790
but we don't feel the way we do

2658
01:30:49,790 --> 01:30:50,130
this show.

2659
01:30:50,130 --> 01:30:51,150
No, we can't do anything about it.

2660
01:30:51,170 --> 01:30:52,070
No, we can't help that, yes.

2661
01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:53,290
We're trying to be entertaining.

2662
01:30:53,510 --> 01:30:53,950
I don't know.

2663
01:30:54,190 --> 01:30:54,990
Yeah, yeah, try.

2664
01:30:56,230 --> 01:30:57,590
All right, third clip here.

2665
01:30:58,510 --> 01:30:58,650
Yeah.

2666
01:30:59,090 --> 01:31:01,730
President Trump has threatened these tariffs as a

2667
01:31:01,730 --> 01:31:02,530
bargaining tactic.

2668
01:31:03,350 --> 01:31:05,970
Is this an effective way to regulate what

2669
01:31:05,970 --> 01:31:07,490
he says are his ultimate goals, which are

2670
01:31:07,490 --> 01:31:10,370
limiting immigration and fentanyl trafficking?

2671
01:31:10,630 --> 01:31:12,970
He's been very effective already on the question

2672
01:31:12,970 --> 01:31:14,670
of borders, which was the first thing he

2673
01:31:14,670 --> 01:31:16,570
said he was trying to extract out of

2674
01:31:16,570 --> 01:31:17,210
these tariffs.

2675
01:31:17,210 --> 01:31:20,010
Both Canada and Mexico have played ball.

2676
01:31:20,130 --> 01:31:23,950
They have complied with Mr. Trump's demands for

2677
01:31:23,950 --> 01:31:24,970
changes at the borders.

2678
01:31:25,070 --> 01:31:27,870
For example, the Mexican government has supported and

2679
01:31:27,870 --> 01:31:31,150
assisted him in his deportation efforts this week

2680
01:31:31,150 --> 01:31:34,910
of irregular migrants taking thousands of people into

2681
01:31:34,910 --> 01:31:35,410
Mexico.

2682
01:31:36,190 --> 01:31:37,930
Irregular migrants, really?

2683
01:31:38,190 --> 01:31:39,190
Is that the term now?

2684
01:31:39,330 --> 01:31:40,590
Irregular migrants.

2685
01:31:41,230 --> 01:31:42,830
What size are you, irregular?

2686
01:31:43,190 --> 01:31:46,790
Week of irregular migrants taking thousands of people

2687
01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:47,650
into Mexico.

2688
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:50,330
Canada has bolstered its border with the United

2689
01:31:50,330 --> 01:31:53,950
States, has deployed Blackhawks, drones, and additional staff.

2690
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:56,590
And they have said that they are seeing

2691
01:31:56,590 --> 01:31:59,930
a real drop in irregular crossings from Canada

2692
01:31:59,930 --> 01:32:01,150
to the United States.

2693
01:32:01,210 --> 01:32:03,270
But the question in both Mexico and Canada

2694
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:06,190
is, is that enough to change Mr. Trump's

2695
01:32:06,190 --> 01:32:06,510
mind?

2696
01:32:06,650 --> 01:32:08,430
And it's really not clear that it will

2697
01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:08,650
be.

2698
01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:12,370
These are some of the most ambitious trade

2699
01:32:12,370 --> 01:32:14,930
moves that President Trump has made in either

2700
01:32:14,930 --> 01:32:17,030
of his administrations.

2701
01:32:17,370 --> 01:32:19,710
This coming so soon in the beginning of

2702
01:32:19,710 --> 01:32:21,070
his second term in the White House.

2703
01:32:21,590 --> 01:32:26,570
How are Canadian and Mexican officials receiving it

2704
01:32:26,570 --> 01:32:28,490
in terms of how to deal with President

2705
01:32:28,490 --> 01:32:30,850
Trump going forward for the rest of his

2706
01:32:30,850 --> 01:32:31,150
term?

2707
01:32:31,630 --> 01:32:33,710
We've seen a really different attitude from Canada

2708
01:32:33,710 --> 01:32:34,510
and from Mexico.

2709
01:32:34,710 --> 01:32:37,710
Mexico has mostly been quite steely, a little

2710
01:32:37,710 --> 01:32:40,570
more aggressive in its rhetoric, but working behind

2711
01:32:40,570 --> 01:32:41,190
the scenes.

2712
01:32:41,230 --> 01:32:43,030
The Canadian government has tried to be a

2713
01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:44,090
little more conciliatory.

2714
01:32:44,090 --> 01:32:46,390
While also threatening to retaliate with its own

2715
01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:46,770
terrorists.

2716
01:32:46,890 --> 01:32:49,550
But for example, its foreign minister, Canada's foreign

2717
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:51,970
minister was in Washington, D.C. up until

2718
01:32:51,970 --> 01:32:54,470
last night trying to change the course of

2719
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:55,890
this policy through diplomacy.

2720
01:32:56,450 --> 01:32:57,870
Obviously that didn't work.

2721
01:32:58,190 --> 01:33:00,130
I think one of the concerns going forward

2722
01:33:00,130 --> 01:33:02,070
in both countries and their officials is gonna

2723
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:04,390
be, what does Mr. Trump really want from

2724
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:04,630
us?

2725
01:33:04,710 --> 01:33:06,310
How can we truly change this?

2726
01:33:06,410 --> 01:33:09,090
And as we escalate into practically a North

2727
01:33:09,090 --> 01:33:12,290
American trade war, as these three countries exchange

2728
01:33:12,290 --> 01:33:15,790
retaliatory tariffs, what is the off ramp?

2729
01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:17,130
How do we stop this?

2730
01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:18,050
Trade war.

2731
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:21,550
Yeah.

2732
01:33:22,190 --> 01:33:23,050
Trade, well, we're in one.

2733
01:33:23,130 --> 01:33:24,850
We're in one because now the way this

2734
01:33:24,850 --> 01:33:27,850
show works, John has all his clips done

2735
01:33:27,850 --> 01:33:30,090
typically Saturday evening.

2736
01:33:30,810 --> 01:33:33,010
I do my clips in the morning and

2737
01:33:33,010 --> 01:33:34,490
we have retaliation.

2738
01:33:35,230 --> 01:33:36,990
We have retaliation.

2739
01:33:37,210 --> 01:33:38,070
Mexico first.

2740
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:40,650
It looks like Claudia Sheinbaum is saying she's

2741
01:33:40,650 --> 01:33:41,770
gonna go pretty equally.

2742
01:33:42,030 --> 01:33:44,030
So the United States is talking about 25

2743
01:33:44,030 --> 01:33:47,150
% and they're gonna really try and punish

2744
01:33:47,150 --> 01:33:51,050
US exporters to Mexico in the same kind

2745
01:33:51,050 --> 01:33:51,390
of level.

2746
01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:55,890
So already people, there's been predictions that if

2747
01:33:55,890 --> 01:34:00,110
this happens, Mexico will go into recession, within

2748
01:34:00,110 --> 01:34:02,910
a few months of this trade war going

2749
01:34:02,910 --> 01:34:03,450
into effect.

2750
01:34:03,970 --> 01:34:06,470
And you'll see, you know, you have about

2751
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:09,910
half a trillion dollars worth of trade.

2752
01:34:10,030 --> 01:34:12,750
Mexico is about the biggest trade partner with

2753
01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:14,170
the United States in the world now, bigger

2754
01:34:14,170 --> 01:34:15,450
than China or Canada.

2755
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:19,290
And so, so many goods, you know, including

2756
01:34:19,290 --> 01:34:23,090
things like avocados, which are very popular in

2757
01:34:23,090 --> 01:34:24,770
game day, coming up next Sunday.

2758
01:34:25,030 --> 01:34:25,370
Game day, game day.

2759
01:34:25,690 --> 01:34:27,870
Will be, you know, prices go up and

2760
01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:28,590
all of these kinds of things.

2761
01:34:28,650 --> 01:34:30,430
So it'll be really, really big impact.

2762
01:34:30,850 --> 01:34:32,470
A lot worse for Mexico, but the United

2763
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:33,510
States will feel it as well.

2764
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:36,130
I think most people seeing this thought Donald

2765
01:34:36,130 --> 01:34:37,410
Trump was bluffing.

2766
01:34:37,810 --> 01:34:39,650
It was a form of putting pressure on

2767
01:34:39,650 --> 01:34:42,030
Mexico effectively to crack down.

2768
01:34:42,990 --> 01:34:44,650
But as he's talking about in Canada, it's

2769
01:34:44,650 --> 01:34:45,870
unsure what he's really after.

2770
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:48,210
Is he really want to change the whole

2771
01:34:48,210 --> 01:34:51,090
trade arrangement and feels that people who are

2772
01:34:51,090 --> 01:34:53,410
importing goods to the United States should be

2773
01:34:53,410 --> 01:34:55,490
paying for that privilege?

2774
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:57,490
And so kind of basically changing the whole

2775
01:34:57,490 --> 01:34:59,710
idea of free trade in this region.

2776
01:34:59,710 --> 01:35:00,550
Free trade.

2777
01:35:00,690 --> 01:35:01,770
Yes, exactly.

2778
01:35:01,970 --> 01:35:03,670
So that's Mexico.

2779
01:35:04,350 --> 01:35:05,330
Justin Trudeau.

2780
01:35:05,470 --> 01:35:07,170
Before you go to Canada, I want to

2781
01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:08,890
mention that there is one thing that I

2782
01:35:08,890 --> 01:35:10,310
don't have the clip of and may have

2783
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:11,490
been on the BBC clips.

2784
01:35:12,490 --> 01:35:16,550
The mention that the president of Mexico, the

2785
01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:16,850
woman.

2786
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:18,710
Yes, Sheinberg.

2787
01:35:20,150 --> 01:35:21,350
Sheinberg, Sheinboig.

2788
01:35:21,930 --> 01:35:29,970
She is irked by the fact that Trump

2789
01:35:29,970 --> 01:35:32,710
claims these cartels are running the country and

2790
01:35:32,710 --> 01:35:35,130
that the government is corrupt.

2791
01:35:35,550 --> 01:35:37,990
This is obviously going on.

2792
01:35:38,730 --> 01:35:42,370
And it's just an insult to her that

2793
01:35:42,370 --> 01:35:45,550
we got no, there's no corruption in Mexico.

2794
01:35:46,910 --> 01:35:47,030
Right.

2795
01:35:49,050 --> 01:35:52,450
Meanwhile, we're shooting it back and forth with

2796
01:35:52,450 --> 01:35:55,050
cartel at the border who are now a

2797
01:35:55,050 --> 01:35:56,350
terrorist organization.

2798
01:35:56,570 --> 01:35:57,950
I mean, you know what?

2799
01:35:57,950 --> 01:35:59,910
It's interesting that there was almost no one,

2800
01:36:00,070 --> 01:36:02,290
no reports really about the ISIS strike.

2801
01:36:03,310 --> 01:36:04,310
I have one.

2802
01:36:04,730 --> 01:36:05,450
The one in Somalia.

2803
01:36:05,650 --> 01:36:06,610
Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute

2804
01:36:06,610 --> 01:36:06,790
then.

2805
01:36:06,850 --> 01:36:08,250
Because there was very little about that.

2806
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:08,950
I do have the clip.

2807
01:36:09,070 --> 01:36:10,210
There was more interest.

2808
01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:11,330
No coverage whatsoever.

2809
01:36:11,690 --> 01:36:12,750
I noticed this too.

2810
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:13,710
Very little coverage.

2811
01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:18,310
Justin Trudeau took a different tactic.

2812
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:20,830
You heard of France 24 report there about

2813
01:36:20,830 --> 01:36:21,250
Mexico.

2814
01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:24,630
And he spoke directly to the American people.

2815
01:36:25,690 --> 01:36:28,850
Now they couldn't mic him properly, which was

2816
01:36:28,850 --> 01:36:30,490
very- Good work.

2817
01:36:30,630 --> 01:36:31,630
Really unfortunate.

2818
01:36:31,790 --> 01:36:34,830
So I had to do some NPR level

2819
01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:36,250
filtering, but here it is.

2820
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:39,630
First, I want to speak directly to Americans,

2821
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:42,150
our closest friends and neighbors.

2822
01:36:42,370 --> 01:36:43,310
Closest friends.

2823
01:36:44,270 --> 01:36:46,790
This is a choice that yes, will harm

2824
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:47,290
Canadians.

2825
01:36:47,870 --> 01:36:51,810
But beyond that, it will have real consequences

2826
01:36:51,810 --> 01:36:54,510
for you, the American people.

2827
01:36:54,890 --> 01:36:57,950
So he says, yes, this will hurt Americans

2828
01:36:57,950 --> 01:37:00,990
or hurt us, Canadians, but it will have

2829
01:37:00,990 --> 01:37:03,590
real consequences for you, American people.

2830
01:37:04,530 --> 01:37:09,190
As I have consistently said, tariffs against Canada

2831
01:37:09,190 --> 01:37:13,510
will put your jobs at risk, potentially shutting

2832
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:17,230
down American auto assembly plants and other manufacturing

2833
01:37:17,230 --> 01:37:17,890
facilities.

2834
01:37:18,230 --> 01:37:18,850
Is that true?

2835
01:37:18,970 --> 01:37:21,130
Will it shut down American auto plants?

2836
01:37:21,130 --> 01:37:23,030
Well, see, this is what's going to end

2837
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:24,330
up happening, in my opinion.

2838
01:37:24,710 --> 01:37:26,090
There's more to it, but we'll just-

2839
01:37:26,090 --> 01:37:27,290
We're doing so, what?

2840
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:28,670
There's more to the clip, but we'll just

2841
01:37:28,670 --> 01:37:29,650
stop it as we go along.

2842
01:37:29,650 --> 01:37:31,290
I was just going to say that it's

2843
01:37:31,290 --> 01:37:35,690
that we do have parts manufacturing in Canada

2844
01:37:35,690 --> 01:37:37,930
and Mexico that go into our cars that

2845
01:37:37,930 --> 01:37:38,530
are built here.

2846
01:37:38,590 --> 01:37:39,730
And some of them, the cars are built

2847
01:37:39,730 --> 01:37:41,710
in Mexico and some of the cars are

2848
01:37:41,710 --> 01:37:42,330
built in Canada.

2849
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:45,970
And so that is an issue, which I

2850
01:37:45,970 --> 01:37:50,510
think is something I think may be, it

2851
01:37:50,510 --> 01:37:52,570
may bring it to the fore to the

2852
01:37:52,570 --> 01:37:54,770
point where we bring some of these manufacturing

2853
01:37:54,770 --> 01:37:56,330
- Over here, over here.

2854
01:37:56,450 --> 01:37:58,570
Back to the, which is what Trump wants.

2855
01:37:58,630 --> 01:37:59,290
That's the whole point.

2856
01:37:59,290 --> 01:38:01,070
Because we have, there are manufacturings down the

2857
01:38:01,070 --> 01:38:02,550
tubes and we got to bring it all

2858
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:02,910
back.

2859
01:38:03,090 --> 01:38:04,170
Yeah, okay.

2860
01:38:04,930 --> 01:38:08,610
It will raise costs for you, including food

2861
01:38:08,610 --> 01:38:10,910
at the grocery store, gas at the pump.

2862
01:38:11,230 --> 01:38:13,090
Hey, we're ready for it, Justin.

2863
01:38:13,390 --> 01:38:15,950
We're ready to shoulder the burden.

2864
01:38:16,210 --> 01:38:18,290
It's like a game of chicken watching these,

2865
01:38:18,290 --> 01:38:20,910
and they haven't got the- Well, I've

2866
01:38:20,910 --> 01:38:21,110
thought about it.

2867
01:38:21,110 --> 01:38:22,810
Well, we're driving a semi and they're driving

2868
01:38:22,810 --> 01:38:23,270
a Chevy.

2869
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:24,830
I've thoughts about it.

2870
01:38:25,190 --> 01:38:27,790
It will impede your access to an affordable

2871
01:38:27,790 --> 01:38:31,830
supply of vital goods crucial for US security.

2872
01:38:32,430 --> 01:38:35,430
Oh, vital goods crucial for our security.

2873
01:38:35,630 --> 01:38:36,990
We're in danger now.

2874
01:38:37,210 --> 01:38:38,810
What are these vital goods?

2875
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:44,050
Such as nickel, potash, uranium, steel, and aluminum.

2876
01:38:45,310 --> 01:38:48,450
They will violate- That's all you got?

2877
01:38:48,530 --> 01:38:49,570
What about Molson beer?

2878
01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:52,030
Free trade agreement that the president and I,

2879
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:56,050
along with our Mexican partner, negotiated and signed

2880
01:38:56,050 --> 01:38:57,650
a few years ago.

2881
01:38:58,470 --> 01:39:01,730
As I've said before, if President Trump wants

2882
01:39:01,730 --> 01:39:04,610
to usher in a new golden age for

2883
01:39:04,610 --> 01:39:08,270
the United States, the better path is to

2884
01:39:08,270 --> 01:39:11,810
partner with Canada, not to punish us.

2885
01:39:12,710 --> 01:39:16,110
So as I'm thinking about this, clearly this

2886
01:39:16,110 --> 01:39:17,570
is- What do you mean by that?

2887
01:39:17,770 --> 01:39:19,990
Well, because he says, well, if just a

2888
01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:21,310
few years ago, it was a little more

2889
01:39:21,310 --> 01:39:23,710
than a few years ago that the USMCA

2890
01:39:23,710 --> 01:39:24,930
was negotiated.

2891
01:39:25,130 --> 01:39:26,070
And this- Well, if you go, it

2892
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:28,670
really stems from the Clinton administration, to be

2893
01:39:28,670 --> 01:39:29,370
honest about it.

2894
01:39:29,370 --> 01:39:29,630
Yes.

2895
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:30,150
NAFTA.

2896
01:39:30,290 --> 01:39:33,170
Right, but this was the modernization of NAFTA.

2897
01:39:33,570 --> 01:39:34,570
It wasn't that different.

2898
01:39:37,230 --> 01:39:40,170
And it's up for renegotiation, which is what

2899
01:39:40,170 --> 01:39:42,570
all of this is about, aboot.

2900
01:39:43,210 --> 01:39:47,010
But is, I mean, this could also trigger

2901
01:39:48,170 --> 01:39:51,610
the financial meltdown if everyone goes into recession.

2902
01:39:53,130 --> 01:39:55,010
I mean, is this in some ways maybe

2903
01:39:55,010 --> 01:39:55,670
a setup?

2904
01:39:57,860 --> 01:39:59,500
I mean, we've been waiting for this to

2905
01:39:59,500 --> 01:39:59,780
happen.

2906
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:02,420
We've been waiting for things to trigger.

2907
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,320
And it's not minor, the stuff that's going

2908
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:05,860
on here.

2909
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,880
Yeah, China, I think is pretty minor, the

2910
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:09,340
10%.

2911
01:40:09,340 --> 01:40:12,320
I'm not quite sure what that means or

2912
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,260
how much it will mean.

2913
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,340
I mean, will this ultimately result in people

2914
01:40:17,340 --> 01:40:19,400
in America waking up and saying, let's get

2915
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,120
to work, Joe.

2916
01:40:20,820 --> 01:40:22,400
Let's go build some stuff.

2917
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,560
No, well, that's maybe, we may be beyond

2918
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:26,180
that point.

2919
01:40:28,020 --> 01:40:31,100
De-dollarization maybe, just everything just goes down.

2920
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:31,820
I mean, I don't know.

2921
01:40:31,940 --> 01:40:33,560
I mean, it feels like there's a bigger

2922
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,440
plan behind this at play.

2923
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,000
This is, it's clearly not just for immigration

2924
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:40,880
and fentanyl.

2925
01:40:41,060 --> 01:40:41,960
There's just no way.

2926
01:40:42,740 --> 01:40:44,280
We like our fentanyl.

2927
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:46,540
You know what I mean?

2928
01:40:46,660 --> 01:40:49,140
It's like, it doesn't feel, that's clearly not

2929
01:40:49,140 --> 01:40:50,880
being genuine.

2930
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,060
It's about trade.

2931
01:40:54,420 --> 01:40:55,840
Because he says it all the time.

2932
01:40:56,020 --> 01:40:56,380
We didn't rip it off.

2933
01:40:56,380 --> 01:40:57,640
I think it's about what I said a

2934
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,840
little while ago, which is getting industries to

2935
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,100
relocate back into the United States and get

2936
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,140
the foreign countries to open up here and

2937
01:41:04,140 --> 01:41:05,440
invest in the country.

2938
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:06,160
Okay.

2939
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:09,480
I mean, it seems like a good idea.

2940
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,600
Well, I think President Trump needs to come

2941
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,520
out and say something publicly, because now it's

2942
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,780
just little quotes, like, there will be some

2943
01:41:15,780 --> 01:41:16,060
pain.

2944
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:17,040
No, he needs to come out and he

2945
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,000
needs to say to the American people, he

2946
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:21,520
needs to get everybody together now.

2947
01:41:21,820 --> 01:41:23,040
Because- Well, he said, when he said

2948
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,980
the pain, that was just a clip of

2949
01:41:24,980 --> 01:41:26,560
what he really said, which was, there's going

2950
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,060
to be some pain, but the country will

2951
01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:28,820
understand.

2952
01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:30,580
Yeah, but he's got to do more.

2953
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,760
I'm just thinking out of the box.

2954
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:33,900
He's got to do more.

2955
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,500
People, you know, now it's just, now it's

2956
01:41:36,500 --> 01:41:36,980
kind of- What can he do?

2957
01:41:39,980 --> 01:41:41,300
He's- He's too weave.

2958
01:41:42,860 --> 01:41:44,700
I have to play the two clips after

2959
01:41:44,700 --> 01:41:45,380
you're done with this.

2960
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:45,740
Go ahead.

2961
01:41:45,900 --> 01:41:46,300
Go ahead.

2962
01:41:46,460 --> 01:41:47,080
That's what we got.

2963
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,020
Okay, these are, again, well, these are, you

2964
01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:50,740
know, I call these clips TikTok clips.

2965
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,220
They're not always TikTok clips, but there's this,

2966
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,140
these are the clips about the 10-day

2967
01:41:56,140 --> 01:41:56,600
clips.

2968
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:57,920
Here's one of them.

2969
01:41:58,060 --> 01:41:59,860
This is the talk 10-day clip.

2970
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:01,480
Do you get it now?

2971
01:42:02,860 --> 01:42:04,100
It's been 10 days.

2972
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:06,720
It's only been 10 days.

2973
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,960
I saw a quote the other day, and

2974
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,140
it said, the people who aren't horrified, horrify

2975
01:42:14,140 --> 01:42:14,980
me the most.

2976
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:16,480
It's been 10 days.

2977
01:42:17,260 --> 01:42:18,800
What does this even mean?

2978
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,840
10 days of Trump.

2979
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,060
It's some sort of a sub-Rosa theme

2980
01:42:25,060 --> 01:42:25,800
that's been going on.

2981
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:26,680
Listen to, here's the other one.

2982
01:42:26,740 --> 01:42:30,420
Listen to this talk, mental health 10 days.

2983
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,700
Have you checked on your American friends lately?

2984
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,580
Because we're not okay.

2985
01:42:34,580 --> 01:42:38,380
The past 10 days has felt like a

2986
01:42:38,380 --> 01:42:38,820
year.

2987
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,140
For so many of us right now, we

2988
01:42:42,140 --> 01:42:45,820
cannot keep up with all of these horrific

2989
01:42:45,820 --> 01:42:50,440
executive orders coming down hour after hour, day

2990
01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:53,120
after day in the first 10 days.

2991
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:56,540
Add to that the first commercial plane crash

2992
01:42:56,540 --> 01:43:00,100
in over a dozen years, claiming the lives

2993
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:01,820
of everyone involved.

2994
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:06,540
It is genuinely looking bleak over here for

2995
01:43:06,540 --> 01:43:07,200
a lot of us.

2996
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,260
We are doing our best not to have

2997
01:43:10,260 --> 01:43:11,320
our spirits crushed.

2998
01:43:11,860 --> 01:43:14,220
And as somebody who works in mental health,

2999
01:43:14,500 --> 01:43:17,240
I can tell you this feels like COVID

3000
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:18,280
all over again.

3001
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,920
It is my job to help other people

3002
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:22,440
day in and day out.

3003
01:43:22,780 --> 01:43:23,720
And I'm struggling.

3004
01:43:24,260 --> 01:43:26,220
And I know I am not the only

3005
01:43:26,220 --> 01:43:27,700
one in this position.

3006
01:43:28,380 --> 01:43:32,320
Healthcare providers in this country are struggling.

3007
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,240
I know we have so many allies all

3008
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,240
over the world and we appreciate it so

3009
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:38,660
immensely.

3010
01:43:39,140 --> 01:43:41,280
And there are so many things that I

3011
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,500
wish we could take a page from you

3012
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:46,160
right now, because in this country, we are

3013
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,380
going sideways so fast.

3014
01:43:48,740 --> 01:43:51,220
And many of us do not know what

3015
01:43:51,220 --> 01:43:52,360
to do to stop it.

3016
01:43:52,980 --> 01:43:54,080
Thank you for listening.

3017
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:55,760
I needed to get that off my chest.

3018
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,160
Please go ahead and follow me on my

3019
01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:58,840
other platforms.

3020
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,780
And then follow me on the subscribe button.

3021
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:02,920
Give me a break.

3022
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:03,420
Go figure.

3023
01:44:03,940 --> 01:44:05,980
And so the next day, the next day,

3024
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,280
I watched Bill Maher on Friday.

3025
01:44:10,140 --> 01:44:11,100
11 days.

3026
01:44:11,340 --> 01:44:12,140
Oh, really?

3027
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,260
There is something going on with the liberals

3028
01:44:15,260 --> 01:44:17,520
and the number of just 10 days, 11

3029
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:17,740
days.

3030
01:44:17,820 --> 01:44:19,800
They're doing some sort of a countdown or

3031
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:20,480
they're...

3032
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:22,520
But this 10 day clips, those are only

3033
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,580
two dozen clips I could have used.

3034
01:44:25,580 --> 01:44:27,760
Most of them are dumb, but it's always

3035
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:28,600
this 10 days.

3036
01:44:28,660 --> 01:44:30,620
Oh, 10 days, it's 10 days, it's 10

3037
01:44:30,620 --> 01:44:31,060
days.

3038
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,360
So there's something going on.

3039
01:44:34,180 --> 01:44:35,280
I think there is.

3040
01:44:36,420 --> 01:44:41,780
It's all empathy, which the number one thing

3041
01:44:41,780 --> 01:44:43,660
I noticed, it's like to see Selena Gomez

3042
01:44:43,660 --> 01:44:48,600
crying because their own media favorites have sighed

3043
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,940
up them into believing that the Trump storm

3044
01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:54,320
troopers are kicking down doors to schools and

3045
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,880
churches and rousting brown people, which is not

3046
01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:58,140
true.

3047
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,580
It's only 200 more than Biden was deporting

3048
01:45:01,580 --> 01:45:02,360
every single day.

3049
01:45:02,540 --> 01:45:05,340
It's just, it's a bigger show for sure.

3050
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,520
And the border is secured for sure.

3051
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,700
They have a bit of a skewed view

3052
01:45:10,700 --> 01:45:13,100
on reality, but on the other side-

3053
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:16,260
Of course, what a pathetic presentation.

3054
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,040
She had to take it down and she's

3055
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,560
got nothing but grief because everyone recorded it

3056
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:21,220
and they're replaying it.

3057
01:45:21,220 --> 01:45:22,820
Oh, did you see the White House even

3058
01:45:22,820 --> 01:45:27,140
did some kind of funny video with her?

3059
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,120
No.

3060
01:45:28,300 --> 01:45:30,000
Yeah, of course.

3061
01:45:30,580 --> 01:45:33,700
But then on the other side, the jubilance

3062
01:45:33,700 --> 01:45:38,340
and the enthusiasm and the optimism from, I'm

3063
01:45:38,340 --> 01:45:43,280
speaking about from the Fredericksburg circle is great,

3064
01:45:43,420 --> 01:45:44,860
everyone's excited.

3065
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:50,320
They're not even stomping that much on people.

3066
01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:51,960
They just walk around like, this is good.

3067
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,720
There's a new sheriff in town, things are

3068
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:55,060
changing.

3069
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:56,600
And boy, are they.

3070
01:45:57,440 --> 01:46:00,100
I mean, the amount of cleaning up, and

3071
01:46:00,100 --> 01:46:01,740
of course it's just the beginning and it's

3072
01:46:01,740 --> 01:46:04,420
not, as many of our producers point out,

3073
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,700
the middle management issues, the bad systems, they're

3074
01:46:07,700 --> 01:46:08,460
still in place.

3075
01:46:08,780 --> 01:46:12,540
But you look at like Kash Patel, what

3076
01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:14,120
he will be able to do.

3077
01:46:14,540 --> 01:46:17,520
And I mean, this is all marketing, of

3078
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:17,720
course.

3079
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,860
So Elon, who is the PR guy for

3080
01:46:21,860 --> 01:46:24,520
Doge, because he knows that's all he does.

3081
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:26,880
And Trump is using him perfectly for that.

3082
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,260
He's posting stuff like, Joe, just 10 days.

3083
01:46:31,540 --> 01:46:32,900
He didn't say that, but he could have.

3084
01:46:33,580 --> 01:46:36,460
We found that the Pentagon spends $600 million

3085
01:46:36,460 --> 01:46:37,840
a year on sushi.

3086
01:46:39,340 --> 01:46:40,520
I believe it.

3087
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:41,460
I believe it too.

3088
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,800
The Air Force pays $1,280 for paper

3089
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:46,280
cups.

3090
01:46:46,940 --> 01:46:51,500
And the IRS spends $230,000 a month

3091
01:46:51,500 --> 01:46:53,980
on Starbucks cinnamon roast K-cups.

3092
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:57,880
This is the kind of stuff that people

3093
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:58,560
despise.

3094
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:00,280
And so they love it when this all

3095
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:00,900
comes out.

3096
01:47:00,940 --> 01:47:03,080
And it's small, it's very small.

3097
01:47:03,500 --> 01:47:04,720
Yeah, but it adds up.

3098
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:05,680
Of course it does.

3099
01:47:06,020 --> 01:47:08,020
And then it's like, hey, Elon, I got

3100
01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:08,620
another one for you.

3101
01:47:08,660 --> 01:47:09,560
Go get the astronauts.

3102
01:47:09,940 --> 01:47:12,000
Okay, I'll go save the astronauts, boss.

3103
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,420
No problem, which I think is funny.

3104
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:19,960
You know, posting that the Treasury, the Secretary

3105
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,340
of the Treasury would just, would never deny

3106
01:47:22,340 --> 01:47:24,540
a payment, just pay anything, even if it

3107
01:47:24,540 --> 01:47:28,000
was to corrupt criminal gangs and cartels and

3108
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:28,920
God knows what else.

3109
01:47:29,500 --> 01:47:32,920
I actually have a somewhat longish Psaki clip

3110
01:47:33,500 --> 01:47:37,920
of her lamenting the hostile takeover.

3111
01:47:38,180 --> 01:47:40,200
On another piece of breaking news tonight here

3112
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,540
in the nation's capital, where the Trump administration

3113
01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:45,860
has conducted an unprecedented purge at the top

3114
01:47:45,860 --> 01:47:47,120
levels of the FBI.

3115
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,360
Unprecedented purge.

3116
01:47:49,580 --> 01:47:50,380
I'm glad you got this.

3117
01:47:50,500 --> 01:47:53,120
Administration officials have forced out all six of

3118
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,100
the FBI's most senior executives and multiple heads

3119
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:59,060
of various FBI field offices across the country,

3120
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,600
according to current and former FBI officials who

3121
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:02,640
spoke with NBC News.

3122
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:06,460
This hostile takeover of federal law enforcement, there's

3123
01:48:06,460 --> 01:48:08,820
no other way to call it, included the

3124
01:48:08,820 --> 01:48:11,340
high profile leader of the Washington DC field

3125
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:13,640
office, which was involved in the prosecutions of

3126
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:14,580
President Donald Trump.

3127
01:48:15,020 --> 01:48:18,460
Superintendent of Justice also fired multiple federal prosecutors

3128
01:48:18,460 --> 01:48:21,820
who conducted the criminal investigation of January 6th

3129
01:48:21,820 --> 01:48:23,140
rioters, according to sources.

3130
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:25,700
And just to take a moment, a step

3131
01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:27,220
back, I know there's a lot of news

3132
01:48:27,220 --> 01:48:29,520
you are consuming right now, but these are

3133
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,160
officials, these are not political officials.

3134
01:48:32,460 --> 01:48:34,680
These are career law enforcement officials.

3135
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:36,600
Most of whom, all of whom have worked

3136
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,340
under multiple Democratic and Republican administrations.

3137
01:48:39,380 --> 01:48:40,920
They are not political appointees.

3138
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,360
Many do not even work in the FBI's

3139
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:44,300
Washington headquarters.

3140
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:47,580
Like Spencer Evans, he was a special agent

3141
01:48:47,580 --> 01:48:50,260
in charge of the Bureau's Las Vegas field

3142
01:48:50,260 --> 01:48:50,720
office.

3143
01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:52,900
In a note obtained by NBC News, Evans

3144
01:48:52,900 --> 01:48:56,060
writes, I was informed by FBI headquarters today

3145
01:48:56,060 --> 01:48:58,260
that the executive leadership at the Department of

3146
01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:00,800
Justice plans to dismiss me from the roles

3147
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,660
of the FBI, along with several other FBI

3148
01:49:03,660 --> 01:49:05,500
executives, as soon as Monday morning.

3149
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,940
I was given no rationale for this decision,

3150
01:49:07,940 --> 01:49:10,640
which, as you might imagine, has come as

3151
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:11,220
a shock.

3152
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:11,740
Shock.

3153
01:49:12,020 --> 01:49:15,420
These firings are potentially devastating to the nation's

3154
01:49:15,420 --> 01:49:18,760
ability to fight terrorism and corruption, investigate crime

3155
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:19,440
across the country.

3156
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:20,760
That's what the FBI does.

3157
01:49:21,340 --> 01:49:23,660
But they are also not just about law

3158
01:49:23,660 --> 01:49:25,040
enforcement officials in Washington.

3159
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:26,960
They are no doubt going to have an

3160
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,760
impact on the local communities they serve as

3161
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:29,900
well.

3162
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,580
We're gonna be learning more about that, I'm

3163
01:49:31,580 --> 01:49:32,640
certain, in the days ahead.

3164
01:49:32,820 --> 01:49:34,760
And it's leaving a lot of these local

3165
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,480
FBI field offices across the country in a

3166
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:39,560
huge lurch.

3167
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:40,260
Lurch!

3168
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:41,740
Now, at the same time that Trump is

3169
01:49:41,740 --> 01:49:44,000
purging the Bureau's ranks, multiple sources tell NBC

3170
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,080
News that the Office of the Acting Deputy

3171
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,360
Attorney General, former Trump defense attorney Emil Bovee,

3172
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,820
has asked the FBI for a list of

3173
01:49:51,820 --> 01:49:54,420
employees involved in January 6th cases.

3174
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:58,060
Now, that could include case managers, technical workers,

3175
01:49:58,780 --> 01:50:02,480
intelligence analysts, workers in almost basically every single

3176
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:03,840
field office the FBI has.

3177
01:50:04,460 --> 01:50:07,080
As one former Bureau official told NBC News,

3178
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,640
this is a really, really big list.

3179
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:11,660
Yeah, really.

3180
01:50:11,900 --> 01:50:13,040
Yeah, really, really big.

3181
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:15,200
What is this thing where she goes off,

3182
01:50:15,260 --> 01:50:17,640
she goes off script and goes on and

3183
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:19,600
on about this Spencer Evans guy?

3184
01:50:20,420 --> 01:50:22,160
The only one she names by name, is

3185
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:23,060
she fucking the guy?

3186
01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:25,080
I mean, there's something screwy about this.

3187
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:26,580
Maybe.

3188
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:27,140
I'm sorry.

3189
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,800
That may be her sources familiar with the

3190
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:30,020
matter.

3191
01:50:30,220 --> 01:50:30,740
You don't know.

3192
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:32,820
You don't know, it's possible.

3193
01:50:32,820 --> 01:50:34,920
Names of all FBI personnel involved in January

3194
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,460
6th investigations and prosecutions must be submitted to

3195
01:50:37,460 --> 01:50:39,060
the Attorney General's office.

3196
01:50:39,700 --> 01:50:41,920
FBI cell phones have been confiscated.

3197
01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:44,000
Many can no longer access email.

3198
01:50:44,620 --> 01:50:47,040
Six of the seven executive assistant directors and

3199
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,700
25 of the 56 special agents in charge

3200
01:50:49,700 --> 01:50:51,000
have already been fired.

3201
01:50:51,860 --> 01:50:53,880
Well, this is kind of what we wanted.

3202
01:50:54,420 --> 01:50:55,620
Yeah, this is exactly what we wanted.

3203
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,200
And the funny thing about this is not

3204
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,040
mentioned, this is without Kash Patel.

3205
01:51:00,220 --> 01:51:01,820
Yeah, this is just happening.

3206
01:51:02,380 --> 01:51:03,460
This is just happening.

3207
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,200
This is no, where's Kash Patel?

3208
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:06,000
He got in there.

3209
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,640
Maybe they're getting, it looks like they're cleaning

3210
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,260
house before he arrives.

3211
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:10,580
Yeah.

3212
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,380
Do you think that they'll all get through

3213
01:51:14,380 --> 01:51:19,560
with the threat of, with the threat of

3214
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:24,900
primaring different senators who vote against it, the

3215
01:51:24,900 --> 01:51:27,000
threat from Shanahan and others?

3216
01:51:27,500 --> 01:51:28,740
Do you think that they'll- Shanahan's threat's

3217
01:51:28,740 --> 01:51:29,640
a pretty major one.

3218
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,220
Yeah, do you think that they'll all be

3219
01:51:32,220 --> 01:51:33,620
confirmed?

3220
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,700
Tulsi, I've said this since the get-go,

3221
01:51:36,820 --> 01:51:38,420
is that I think that it's gonna be

3222
01:51:38,420 --> 01:51:39,140
like Hegseth.

3223
01:51:39,300 --> 01:51:41,060
You know, Hegseth barely got through.

3224
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,820
I think Kennedy's gonna be the same way.

3225
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:45,540
He's gonna barely get through.

3226
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,740
He's surprised at the pushback he's getting.

3227
01:51:50,020 --> 01:51:51,400
And I do have the one clip with

3228
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,080
him and Bernie, which is a classic.

3229
01:51:56,220 --> 01:51:58,480
And Kash Patel's gonna get in, I think,

3230
01:51:58,580 --> 01:51:59,000
easily.

3231
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,460
But I think Tulsi's the one that they

3232
01:52:01,460 --> 01:52:02,720
really have a problem with.

3233
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,120
Well, there's a lot of pictures of things

3234
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,880
in people's mouths that may weigh more heavily

3235
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:11,340
than being primaried.

3236
01:52:12,420 --> 01:52:13,140
Could be.

3237
01:52:13,420 --> 01:52:15,780
There's a lot of blackmail that's running the

3238
01:52:15,780 --> 01:52:16,100
country.

3239
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:17,060
Yeah, yeah.

3240
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,620
No doubt about that.

3241
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,220
And do we know who the backup is?

3242
01:52:21,300 --> 01:52:22,440
Who's the backup for Tulsi?

3243
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:23,300
Do we have any idea?

3244
01:52:23,540 --> 01:52:25,340
No, they've done a good job of keeping

3245
01:52:25,340 --> 01:52:26,100
that from us.

3246
01:52:26,300 --> 01:52:28,420
We don't know the backup for Kennedy either.

3247
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,960
But the backup for Tulsi's gonna be some

3248
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,420
kick-ass, I'm sure, that it's gonna be

3249
01:52:33,420 --> 01:52:36,400
worse for the intelligence community.

3250
01:52:36,740 --> 01:52:38,360
I mean, there may be some thought that

3251
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,520
the intelligence community says, well, you know, at

3252
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,160
least she is a soldier.

3253
01:52:42,260 --> 01:52:43,560
Maybe we can manipulate her.

3254
01:52:43,660 --> 01:52:44,580
She doesn't have that much.

3255
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,340
She's kind of clueless about how the government

3256
01:52:46,340 --> 01:52:48,580
works at that level.

3257
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,400
And maybe, you know, she might get in

3258
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:52,040
that way.

3259
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,580
Here's Rachel Maddow, who still no one is

3260
01:52:56,580 --> 01:52:58,760
watching, even though she was brought back to

3261
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,240
do the first 100 days.

3262
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,460
Yeah, she's on every night now, and unwatchable.

3263
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:04,840
Yes.

3264
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,720
The Washington Post reports tonight that FBI supervisors

3265
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,480
advised agents that any agents who worked on

3266
01:53:10,480 --> 01:53:13,020
either of those two cases, the Jack Smith

3267
01:53:13,020 --> 01:53:16,660
cases, FBI supervisors reportedly advised agents that they

3268
01:53:16,660 --> 01:53:19,200
should be prepared for the Trump administration to

3269
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,240
release to the public the names of the

3270
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,280
FBI agents who worked on those cases.

3271
01:53:24,860 --> 01:53:26,740
Before they were then, they would then be

3272
01:53:26,740 --> 01:53:27,680
fired on Monday.

3273
01:53:28,380 --> 01:53:30,660
So rather than just firing them, they were

3274
01:53:30,660 --> 01:53:35,000
basically going to tell, you know, Trump supporters,

3275
01:53:35,140 --> 01:53:36,740
including those who were just let out of

3276
01:53:36,740 --> 01:53:39,920
prison by Donald Trump, tell them, hey, here's

3277
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,580
the names of FBI agents who were part

3278
01:53:42,580 --> 01:53:45,440
of all the January 6th investigations, the ones

3279
01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:46,220
that targeted Trump.

3280
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,920
Don't worry, though, they're no longer agents.

3281
01:53:49,140 --> 01:53:51,360
We're firing them today, so go ahead and

3282
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:51,840
have at them.

3283
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,380
Have at them, yeah, mega.

3284
01:53:53,380 --> 01:53:54,040
Now, tonight.

3285
01:53:54,340 --> 01:53:54,860
Yeah, mega.

3286
01:53:55,060 --> 01:53:55,680
Nobody said that.

3287
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,100
Mega, have at them, mega.

3288
01:53:58,660 --> 01:54:02,300
You know, I'd like you to pay attention.

3289
01:54:02,500 --> 01:54:04,860
Do you ever see any of your TikTok

3290
01:54:04,860 --> 01:54:10,800
people, and, you know, your algorithm is fine

3291
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,240
-tuned, do you ever see any of them

3292
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,640
referencing Rachel Maddow or Psaki or any of

3293
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:16,900
these?

3294
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:17,220
No, never.

3295
01:54:17,220 --> 01:54:18,180
Any of these, never, right?

3296
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:18,700
Never.

3297
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:19,400
Never.

3298
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,280
Which I find peculiar now that you mentioned

3299
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,660
it, because there are the similar talking points,

3300
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:27,680
only more emotional.

3301
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,680
No, I don't think anybody watches those shows,

3302
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:31,920
even including the left.

3303
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,420
I mean, they have a dedicated audience, obviously,

3304
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:36,920
of some sort of number.

3305
01:54:36,940 --> 01:54:37,580
Not much, not much.

3306
01:54:37,580 --> 01:54:38,740
It's under a million, probably.

3307
01:54:38,740 --> 01:54:39,840
Not much, not much.

3308
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,700
Probably around the same number of people that

3309
01:54:42,700 --> 01:54:43,400
listen to us.

3310
01:54:44,940 --> 01:54:45,600
Oh, so.

3311
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:47,220
Only kind of the dumber quotient.

3312
01:54:47,300 --> 01:54:49,040
We have the smart group, and they have

3313
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:49,220
the.

3314
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:50,640
I have an update.

3315
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,740
It looks like 25% on all products

3316
01:54:53,740 --> 01:54:55,940
from Canada and Mexico, but only 10%

3317
01:54:55,940 --> 01:54:57,260
on energy products.

3318
01:54:57,580 --> 01:54:59,580
Yeah, that was mentioned in the report we

3319
01:54:59,580 --> 01:54:59,900
played.

3320
01:55:00,060 --> 01:55:00,920
Okay, okay.

3321
01:55:02,380 --> 01:55:04,440
Demi's gas might go up, maybe.

3322
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:08,220
You know, our people here still aren't drilling

3323
01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:08,560
more.

3324
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:14,260
That, I think the 10% of the

3325
01:55:14,260 --> 01:55:17,680
gas and oil is because Trump really wants

3326
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,300
to stay in the good graces of those

3327
01:55:19,300 --> 01:55:21,000
people in Alberta.

3328
01:55:21,460 --> 01:55:23,640
You got to keep it between 68 and

3329
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:24,120
$78.

3330
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,780
You can't go too high, too low.

3331
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:27,880
Got to keep it in that range.

3332
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:28,800
Everyone's happy then.

3333
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,700
Then the final clip, we've got to take

3334
01:55:31,700 --> 01:55:33,660
a break here, is from the former president

3335
01:55:33,660 --> 01:55:36,940
of Kenya, which I thought was just fantastic.

3336
01:55:38,380 --> 01:55:40,280
Let's make sure we play the Somalia clip

3337
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:40,600
before.

3338
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:42,960
I mean, before we finish.

3339
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:44,940
Cool, let's play the Somalia clip first, then.

3340
01:55:45,580 --> 01:55:46,380
That's the nicest clip.

3341
01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:47,800
This is just a clip that we both

3342
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:48,180
observed.

3343
01:55:48,300 --> 01:55:50,040
Nobody's talking about this, and why?

3344
01:55:51,020 --> 01:55:53,300
President Trump ordered the first military strikes of

3345
01:55:53,300 --> 01:55:54,060
his second term.

3346
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,780
Mr. Trump announced the military action in Somalia

3347
01:55:56,780 --> 01:55:58,540
on his social media platform.

3348
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,140
He said the strikes targeted a senior ISIS

3349
01:56:01,140 --> 01:56:03,660
planner, attack planner, and other terrorists.

3350
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,460
The Pentagon said the strikes were coordinated with

3351
01:56:06,460 --> 01:56:09,600
Somalia and that there were no civilian casualties.

3352
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:10,840
Yeah.

3353
01:56:10,940 --> 01:56:11,440
Yeah, right.

3354
01:56:11,980 --> 01:56:14,460
Not one civilian casualty somehow.

3355
01:56:14,580 --> 01:56:15,480
It was in the cave.

3356
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,380
They smoked him out of the cave.

3357
01:56:17,580 --> 01:56:19,040
Here's the former president of Kenya.

3358
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,780
People the other day crying.

3359
01:56:22,020 --> 01:56:23,120
Oh, I don't know.

3360
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,140
Trump has removed money.

3361
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:28,440
He said he's not giving us any more

3362
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:28,920
money.

3363
01:56:29,820 --> 01:56:31,140
Why are you crying?

3364
01:56:31,260 --> 01:56:31,960
It's not your government.

3365
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:32,880
It's not your country.

3366
01:56:35,580 --> 01:56:36,680
Why are you crying?

3367
01:56:39,540 --> 01:56:43,160
He has no reason to give you anything.

3368
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:48,140
I mean, you don't pay taxes in America.

3369
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,100
He's appealing to his people.

3370
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:55,960
This is a wake-up call for you

3371
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:57,520
to say, okay, what are we going to

3372
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:58,820
do to help ourselves?

3373
01:56:58,860 --> 01:56:59,960
Instead of crying.

3374
01:57:00,540 --> 01:57:01,700
Yes, don't cry.

3375
01:57:02,260 --> 01:57:04,360
To you, what are we going to do?

3376
01:57:05,700 --> 01:57:07,900
What are we going to do?

3377
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:08,340
What?

3378
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:13,140
To support ourselves, because nobody is going to

3379
01:57:13,140 --> 01:57:13,360
give us anything.

3380
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:14,500
We are going to continue holding out a

3381
01:57:14,500 --> 01:57:15,700
hand there to give you.

3382
01:57:16,140 --> 01:57:18,980
It is time for us to use our

3383
01:57:18,980 --> 01:57:20,100
resources for the right things.

3384
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:21,440
We are the ones who are using them

3385
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:22,240
for the wrong things.

3386
01:57:22,620 --> 01:57:24,900
This is the attitude we want.

3387
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,640
And that is the attitude you want.

3388
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:30,020
That guy's got something going on.

3389
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,920
And then finally, a good fun Africa clip.

3390
01:57:33,060 --> 01:57:34,360
Thank you, President Trump.

3391
01:57:34,460 --> 01:57:35,000
This is good.

3392
01:57:35,780 --> 01:57:36,940
We've got Africa news.

3393
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:40,060
Gotta love it.

3394
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:41,280
Yeah.

3395
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:42,720
And yes.

3396
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:43,680
There goes the audience.

3397
01:57:44,500 --> 01:57:46,040
No, it was, everyone loved that.

3398
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:46,760
Everyone loved the guy.

3399
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:47,480
Why are you crying?

3400
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:49,580
And with that, I want to thank you

3401
01:57:49,580 --> 01:57:50,180
for your courage.

3402
01:57:50,340 --> 01:57:51,320
Say in the morning to you, the man

3403
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:52,580
who put the sea in the crying.

3404
01:57:52,820 --> 01:57:53,960
Say hello to my friend on the other

3405
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,220
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

3406
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:56,840
DeMora.

3407
01:57:59,620 --> 01:58:01,180
Yeah, and good morning to you, Mr. Adam

3408
01:58:01,180 --> 01:58:01,440
Carey.

3409
01:58:01,500 --> 01:58:02,640
In the morning, ships and sea boots to

3410
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:03,760
the ground, feet in the air, subs in

3411
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,100
the water, and the dames and knights out

3412
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:06,300
there.

3413
01:58:06,380 --> 01:58:07,780
Hello there, to all the folks on the

3414
01:58:07,780 --> 01:58:08,240
west coast.

3415
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:09,240
Hello there, California.

3416
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:12,760
It's crazy.

3417
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:13,900
We have so many trolls.

3418
01:58:14,700 --> 01:58:15,240
2671.

3419
01:58:16,700 --> 01:58:17,140
It's good.

3420
01:58:17,340 --> 01:58:20,320
We're consistently about 10% higher than is

3421
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:20,740
the norm.

3422
01:58:21,700 --> 01:58:23,920
Well, the norm is 24 for a Sunday.

3423
01:58:24,580 --> 01:58:25,120
Right.

3424
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:27,560
So that's more than 10%.

3425
01:58:28,210 --> 01:58:30,760
No, no, it's 24, 22, 25, yeah.

3426
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:31,680
Thank you.

3427
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:31,900
Right.

3428
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:32,880
Thank you.

3429
01:58:33,580 --> 01:58:34,660
No college.

3430
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:36,340
No college debris over here.

3431
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:38,260
No college debris.

3432
01:58:38,540 --> 01:58:39,460
No college debris.

3433
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,400
The trolls are in the troll room at

3434
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,740
trollroom.io, and they listen live on Thursdays

3435
01:58:44,740 --> 01:58:45,140
and Sundays.

3436
01:58:45,180 --> 01:58:46,660
When we go live, you can also listen

3437
01:58:46,660 --> 01:58:49,820
to Modern Podcast App, which I encourage everyone

3438
01:58:49,820 --> 01:58:50,200
to get.

3439
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:51,500
There's so many benefits to them.

3440
01:58:51,580 --> 01:58:53,400
Go to podcastapps.com.

3441
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,520
I would suggest, let me see, we have

3442
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:59,480
Fountain, Podverse, Podcast Addict, Podcast Guru, CurioCaster.

3443
01:58:59,860 --> 01:59:01,320
I know I'm missing a few, but those

3444
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,280
will let you listen live right in the

3445
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:04,020
podcast app.

3446
01:59:04,140 --> 01:59:06,000
If you can't listen live, no problem.

3447
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,060
Then you just listen when we release the

3448
01:59:08,060 --> 01:59:10,420
show, and you'll get a notification within 90

3449
01:59:10,420 --> 01:59:11,500
seconds of doing so.

3450
01:59:11,620 --> 01:59:13,640
We have chapters with images, all kinds of

3451
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,060
very fun features.

3452
01:59:16,780 --> 01:59:18,180
Fun features, fun.

3453
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:20,300
They're just fun to have, fun to look

3454
01:59:20,300 --> 01:59:21,160
at, fun to play with.

3455
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,080
And, you know, no matter where you are,

3456
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:28,260
even in Canada or in Australia, it won't

3457
01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:28,780
be removed.

3458
01:59:29,220 --> 01:59:31,880
You know, Apple is removing episodes in China.

3459
01:59:31,980 --> 01:59:32,800
Did I tell you about that?

3460
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:34,740
No.

3461
01:59:34,740 --> 01:59:40,040
Yeah, the Chinese Apple app, there will be

3462
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,800
just episodes missing from like the Joe Rogan

3463
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,920
podcast and others, just missing altogether.

3464
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:46,760
Just pull them out.

3465
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:48,000
Ah, we don't like what you said.

3466
01:59:48,780 --> 01:59:50,760
Why does Joe Rogan say that's offensive to

3467
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:51,040
China?

3468
01:59:51,300 --> 01:59:51,980
I don't know.

3469
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:55,180
Don't trust China.

3470
01:59:55,700 --> 01:59:57,040
Maybe, I'm not sure.

3471
01:59:57,220 --> 01:59:58,620
Don't trust China.

3472
01:59:58,740 --> 02:00:00,160
Donald Trump, don't trust China.

3473
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:01,440
China's asshole.

3474
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:09,020
Oh, anyway, unlike NPR, we just started off

3475
02:00:09,020 --> 02:00:10,700
poor and remain relatively poor.

3476
02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:11,480
Yep.

3477
02:00:12,620 --> 02:00:14,560
Which is just, it is what it is,

3478
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:16,440
but we do this as a public service.

3479
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:17,540
We love doing it.

3480
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,320
We wouldn't be doing it for 18 years

3481
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:21,020
if we didn't love it.

3482
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:21,980
And we're going to make it an even

3483
02:00:21,980 --> 02:00:22,460
21.

3484
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:23,940
We're in the final four years of the

3485
02:00:23,940 --> 02:00:24,140
show.

3486
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,040
So enjoy it while you can.

3487
02:00:26,780 --> 02:00:29,180
Of course, it could always end earlier, depending

3488
02:00:29,180 --> 02:00:29,900
on how it goes.

3489
02:00:30,340 --> 02:00:31,980
So we run it on the value for

3490
02:00:31,980 --> 02:00:32,680
value model.

3491
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,520
We don't have to horse around with sneaky

3492
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:36,620
little tricky bits.

3493
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,220
You know, if you want to say something,

3494
02:00:39,300 --> 02:00:40,020
we'll read your note.

3495
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,760
And in fact, if you donate $200 or

3496
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:44,480
above, we will read your note.

3497
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:48,240
And we also give you a title, Associate

3498
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:51,380
Executive Producer for this episode, which is a

3499
02:00:51,380 --> 02:00:52,540
real Hollywood credit.

3500
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:54,820
You can use it anywhere they're recognized, imdb

3501
02:00:54,820 --> 02:00:55,300
.com.

3502
02:00:55,340 --> 02:00:56,160
Go ahead and take a look.

3503
02:00:56,260 --> 02:00:59,100
There are thousands now, or probably not thousands,

3504
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:00,140
but well over a thousand.

3505
02:01:00,700 --> 02:01:02,860
$300 or above, Executive Producer.

3506
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:04,480
And that's the title you'll get.

3507
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:05,500
And we'll read your note.

3508
02:01:05,620 --> 02:01:07,660
So that's the workaround for everybody who has

3509
02:01:07,660 --> 02:01:08,260
something to promote.

3510
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:09,260
Like, I don't know, coffee.

3511
02:01:11,860 --> 02:01:14,860
And we also accept other forms of value

3512
02:01:14,860 --> 02:01:16,880
for value, time, talent, and treasure.

3513
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:21,540
And the talent and also time often comes

3514
02:01:21,540 --> 02:01:23,640
in the form of our artists who create

3515
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:24,860
artwork for us.

3516
02:01:25,460 --> 02:01:28,880
So just to stop you, so I'm at

3517
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,840
the meetup and I guess it's a known

3518
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:36,020
fact by everybody but me that Roger Roundy

3519
02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:37,200
is Edgar the Puppet?

3520
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:38,800
Yeah, everyone knows this.

3521
02:01:40,140 --> 02:01:40,740
Yeah.

3522
02:01:40,900 --> 02:01:41,960
How come I don't know it?

3523
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:43,700
I was actually stunned because I was-

3524
02:01:43,700 --> 02:01:46,760
I know why, because you're not on Mastodon,

3525
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:49,880
you're on TikTok looking at pink hair.

3526
02:01:51,340 --> 02:01:52,480
It's your own fault.

3527
02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:55,820
It's an amazing product.

3528
02:01:56,240 --> 02:01:57,240
It's a very good product.

3529
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:58,880
It was very, very no agenda.

3530
02:01:59,140 --> 02:02:00,960
It's also, it's kind of- Well, it's

3531
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:03,000
a very no agenda, but it's also very

3532
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:06,160
Triumph the Comic Book Dog, the insult comic

3533
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:07,920
dog, only funnier.

3534
02:02:08,220 --> 02:02:09,240
Yes, exactly.

3535
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,100
Which I was kind of surprised by.

3536
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:12,740
I did go back and forth with Roundy

3537
02:02:12,740 --> 02:02:15,480
on this and he thinks that he's-

3538
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:16,920
I think he saw it as an opportunity

3539
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:20,220
because Triumph the insult comic dog has been

3540
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:22,220
going out in public and doing these videos.

3541
02:02:22,220 --> 02:02:23,560
But he's woke.

3542
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:25,000
Oh, really?

3543
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:28,200
But wasn't Triumph, what's his face?

3544
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:29,700
Conan?

3545
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:30,700
Is Conan?

3546
02:02:30,700 --> 02:02:31,340
No, no, no.

3547
02:02:31,540 --> 02:02:32,540
No, he's never Conan.

3548
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:33,320
He was this other guy.

3549
02:02:34,060 --> 02:02:36,860
In my blog from about 10 years ago,

3550
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:38,620
I had got, there was a picture of

3551
02:02:38,620 --> 02:02:39,160
the guy.

3552
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,720
I forgot his name, but he's, no, it's

3553
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:42,280
not Conan.

3554
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,520
Conan had him on the show all the

3555
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:47,320
time, but it wasn't Conan or Conan's Bit.

3556
02:02:47,740 --> 02:02:48,800
Oh, okay.

3557
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,600
And that guy, and so the insult comic

3558
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:52,420
dog is woke?

3559
02:02:53,300 --> 02:02:53,860
That's the opposite.

3560
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:55,760
That's exactly the opposite.

3561
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:57,940
The whole point was that that dog was

3562
02:02:57,940 --> 02:02:59,040
offensive.

3563
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:01,520
Yeah, to poop on.

3564
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:03,360
For me to poop on.

3565
02:03:03,740 --> 02:03:05,740
Is that still the dog's punchline?

3566
02:03:05,740 --> 02:03:07,700
No, I noticed it last couple of times.

3567
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:09,180
I saw him on the videos.

3568
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:10,460
He never said to poop on.

3569
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:11,480
Well, then it's no good.

3570
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,980
The dog was only good when his punchline

3571
02:03:13,980 --> 02:03:15,040
was to poop on.

3572
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:16,160
That was perfect.

3573
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:18,320
Ah, what a waste.

3574
02:03:18,700 --> 02:03:19,440
What a waste.

3575
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:21,920
Yeah, so Roundly doesn't do art anymore, but

3576
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:23,700
that's okay because we have lots of artists

3577
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:26,980
and prompt jockeys and donors and special interests

3578
02:03:26,980 --> 02:03:29,360
and everybody chips in and helps out for

3579
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,580
as long as AI will work, as entropy

3580
02:03:31,580 --> 02:03:33,120
is sure to set in soon.

3581
02:03:33,340 --> 02:03:34,520
It may even be starting.

3582
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:38,020
That's just my hope.

3583
02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:40,920
Yeah, that, no, it's your wish.

3584
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:42,500
It's your dream.

3585
02:03:42,660 --> 02:03:43,580
It's a prayer.

3586
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:45,320
Believe me, it's a prayer.

3587
02:03:46,300 --> 02:03:47,580
Yeah, you're ahead of your time.

3588
02:03:48,260 --> 02:03:53,200
Always, look at me, invented podcasting.

3589
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:53,740
Who's rich?

3590
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:54,400
Joe Rogan.

3591
02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:57,860
I mean, it says it right there, doesn't

3592
02:03:57,860 --> 02:03:58,400
it?

3593
02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,400
Mega Kelly.

3594
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:04,260
We want to thank Blue Acorn who did

3595
02:04:04,260 --> 02:04:06,380
the artwork for episode 1734.

3596
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:07,660
The title of that was Mega.

3597
02:04:07,700 --> 02:04:09,640
That was based on Make Europe Great Again.

3598
02:04:09,900 --> 02:04:11,920
Sir Brian of London sent me a picture

3599
02:04:13,260 --> 02:04:16,640
of a whole bunch of red hats as

3600
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,860
Mega is now being used in the UK

3601
02:04:18,860 --> 02:04:21,040
as Make England Great Again.

3602
02:04:21,300 --> 02:04:22,560
Yes, I heard this too.

3603
02:04:22,740 --> 02:04:23,980
Which is interesting.

3604
02:04:24,220 --> 02:04:25,680
And I wouldn't mind having one of those

3605
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:26,000
hats.

3606
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:27,140
That's pretty fun to have.

3607
02:04:27,860 --> 02:04:29,500
Now when we, go ahead.

3608
02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:31,900
Well, that reminds me, where's my sheet?

3609
02:04:32,420 --> 02:04:33,000
You got it.

3610
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:34,200
A couple of things I got to bring

3611
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:34,460
out.

3612
02:04:34,540 --> 02:04:35,200
I got my sheet.

3613
02:04:35,320 --> 02:04:36,080
Can I finish that?

3614
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:37,300
No, this is about the show.

3615
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:38,580
Well, but this is for art.

3616
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:39,440
We want to finish the art.

3617
02:04:39,460 --> 02:04:40,660
No, this is about the donations.

3618
02:04:40,900 --> 02:04:41,120
Okay.

3619
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:43,060
We can do the art and then I

3620
02:04:43,060 --> 02:04:44,220
got to make these complaints.

3621
02:04:44,220 --> 02:04:45,000
Yes, of course.

3622
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:46,320
You make all the complaints you want.

3623
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:47,120
What else is new?

3624
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:47,840
It's the show.

3625
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:48,720
That's what we do.

3626
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,920
Now, when we saw this from Blue Acorn,

3627
02:04:52,020 --> 02:04:53,120
it was the cow egg.

3628
02:04:53,220 --> 02:04:54,780
We had talked about cow eggs on the

3629
02:04:54,780 --> 02:04:54,980
show.

3630
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:55,600
It was cute.

3631
02:04:55,700 --> 02:04:57,820
Even had a little AI brand mark there

3632
02:04:57,820 --> 02:04:59,020
on the cow, which was fun.

3633
02:04:59,700 --> 02:05:02,380
What was really cool is when we went

3634
02:05:02,380 --> 02:05:04,240
to get the link for Blue Acorn to

3635
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:05,600
put in the show notes, we give our

3636
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:06,220
artists credit.

3637
02:05:06,860 --> 02:05:08,840
It said artists for six minutes.

3638
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,940
And we didn't realize that that counter is

3639
02:05:11,940 --> 02:05:12,600
real time.

3640
02:05:12,660 --> 02:05:14,200
So when we went back, it says artists

3641
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:15,320
for seven minutes.

3642
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:19,880
So this is, that's a feature of noagendaartgenerator

3643
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:20,340
.com.

3644
02:05:20,420 --> 02:05:21,660
I never did know about.

3645
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:22,560
Yeah, we never knew about it.

3646
02:05:22,580 --> 02:05:24,420
I never realized that it would actually.

3647
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:25,840
He is one of the, I think the

3648
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:28,940
third guy in the history of the show,

3649
02:05:29,220 --> 02:05:33,180
I believe he's the third, who hit it

3650
02:05:33,180 --> 02:05:36,020
on his first art donation.

3651
02:05:36,140 --> 02:05:36,500
Yes.

3652
02:05:37,580 --> 02:05:37,740
Yeah.

3653
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:38,460
One shot.

3654
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:39,600
Nailed it, nailed it.

3655
02:05:39,700 --> 02:05:39,840
Yeah.

3656
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:41,060
He'll never get in again.

3657
02:05:41,060 --> 02:05:41,580
Never again.

3658
02:05:41,580 --> 02:05:43,540
Your career is over.

3659
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:45,300
Let's take a look.

3660
02:05:45,300 --> 02:05:47,800
Now, a piece that came in afterwards, I

3661
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:49,860
used for the newsletter, which came in after

3662
02:05:49,860 --> 02:05:52,740
we already closed our thing, which is a

3663
02:05:52,740 --> 02:05:56,340
late piece from Huda Thunket.

3664
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:58,380
A good, it was a very good piece

3665
02:05:58,380 --> 02:05:58,800
of art.

3666
02:05:59,980 --> 02:06:04,160
Huda Thunket was a Chinese guy, an Asian,

3667
02:06:04,340 --> 02:06:06,180
vague Asian guy, who looks more like a

3668
02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:07,540
Singaporean actually to me.

3669
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:08,620
Clubbing a fish.

3670
02:06:08,620 --> 02:06:10,260
Beating the crap out of a fish.

3671
02:06:10,260 --> 02:06:11,520
With best price.

3672
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:14,880
Best price on his apron.

3673
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:16,180
Best price on his chest.

3674
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:18,480
Very humorous.

3675
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:18,740
Yes.

3676
02:06:19,060 --> 02:06:19,880
Terrific piece.

3677
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:20,200
Yes.

3678
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:21,620
It might've made it.

3679
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:22,940
It might've beat the cow away.

3680
02:06:22,940 --> 02:06:24,600
It could've beaten the cow if it had

3681
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:25,700
come in earlier, yeah.

3682
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:26,960
Very close to beating it.

3683
02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:31,180
I kind of like Nessworks' Can You Read

3684
02:06:31,180 --> 02:06:31,640
Clock?

3685
02:06:33,460 --> 02:06:34,900
Didn't quite have it.

3686
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,460
Darren O'Neill did a Runway 33.

3687
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:38,860
We both felt that was a little too

3688
02:06:38,860 --> 02:06:39,280
early.

3689
02:06:40,260 --> 02:06:40,840
Too soon.

3690
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:42,000
Yes, it's a good piece though.

3691
02:06:42,260 --> 02:06:42,520
Pretty piece.

3692
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:45,680
Now the farmer's wife kids came in with

3693
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:46,480
two pieces.

3694
02:06:46,660 --> 02:06:50,620
One was a cow with an egg, but

3695
02:06:50,620 --> 02:06:59,940
the one which was titled White House Media

3696
02:06:59,940 --> 02:07:04,360
Podcasters was this kind of an awesome picture

3697
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:07,820
of a Mexican with a sombrero and a

3698
02:07:07,820 --> 02:07:08,480
microphone.

3699
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:11,060
And it said White House Media.

3700
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:14,080
And what are you teaching them over there,

3701
02:07:14,140 --> 02:07:14,760
farmer's wife?

3702
02:07:14,780 --> 02:07:16,940
I don't know what this, we both were

3703
02:07:16,940 --> 02:07:19,440
completely baffled by this, whatever the kids drew

3704
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:19,780
here.

3705
02:07:20,380 --> 02:07:22,200
Why are they thinking there's a guy in

3706
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,120
the White House with a sombrero of all

3707
02:07:25,120 --> 02:07:28,580
things, which is like verboten now to even

3708
02:07:28,580 --> 02:07:29,000
discuss.

3709
02:07:29,940 --> 02:07:32,480
It was actually well put together.

3710
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:33,780
I mean, those- Yeah, we were almost

3711
02:07:33,780 --> 02:07:34,380
gonna pick it.

3712
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:35,160
It was close.

3713
02:07:35,300 --> 02:07:37,080
I will say it was, kids, well done.

3714
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:38,060
Close, keep it up.

3715
02:07:38,060 --> 02:07:39,300
We encourage this.

3716
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:40,820
We encourage the art you're doing.

3717
02:07:41,260 --> 02:07:43,580
There's clearly some soul in these kids.

3718
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:46,440
Clearly, it was very enjoyable.

3719
02:07:49,220 --> 02:07:53,640
Honorary mention for Gun Monkey with the, what

3720
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:56,300
I think the intent here was it to

3721
02:07:56,300 --> 02:07:59,100
be the Senate confirmation hearings with all of

3722
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:01,940
the senators with their heads as pills like

3723
02:08:01,940 --> 02:08:03,800
they're owned by Big Pharma.

3724
02:08:04,580 --> 02:08:06,560
But it missed some essential.

3725
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:10,400
It didn't really even look like, it didn't

3726
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:11,300
look like the Senate.

3727
02:08:11,660 --> 02:08:13,380
We know what you were trying to do,

3728
02:08:13,940 --> 02:08:15,140
but it didn't quite make it there.

3729
02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:16,660
Then of course- No, it wasn't gonna

3730
02:08:16,660 --> 02:08:16,980
cut it.

3731
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:19,140
Then of course, everybody tried to do a

3732
02:08:19,140 --> 02:08:19,860
onesie.

3733
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:23,580
I wouldn't mind having a No Agenda, No

3734
02:08:23,580 --> 02:08:27,900
Problem onesie with Curry Dvorak, adult size.

3735
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,480
I'd wear that to bed.

3736
02:08:32,420 --> 02:08:33,080
You heard him.

3737
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:34,560
Yeah, you heard me.

3738
02:08:35,260 --> 02:08:38,340
Then there was the requisite Pocahontas, which is

3739
02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:40,360
like, no, I'm not gonna use that.

3740
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:42,140
I think that was it.

3741
02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:47,080
I'd say- Well, you did like the

3742
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:50,200
other cow egg, mainly the one from Dame

3743
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,460
Kenny, Ben, with the cow in the carton.

3744
02:08:52,500 --> 02:08:54,000
Yeah, it was cute, it was cute.

3745
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:55,160
Yeah, you liked that.

3746
02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:56,500
Yeah, I did think it was cute.

3747
02:08:56,780 --> 02:08:58,320
It was all very close.

3748
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:01,220
It was a close call for everybody, but

3749
02:09:01,220 --> 02:09:04,380
the most baffling yet somehow curiously funny was

3750
02:09:04,380 --> 02:09:07,600
the farmer's wife's kids with the Mexican-

3751
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:08,520
With the sombrero guy.

3752
02:09:08,620 --> 02:09:11,240
With the sombrero at the fight.

3753
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,320
It could have been when you were, I

3754
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:14,940
mean, now that I think about it, you

3755
02:09:14,940 --> 02:09:16,380
did a bit.

3756
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:17,560
Did I do a Mexican bit?

3757
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:19,660
You did a Mexican bit with the ocho,

3758
02:09:19,740 --> 02:09:21,800
ocho, ocho, and you had the- Security

3759
02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:23,740
X, security X, ocho, ocho, ocho.

3760
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:25,800
But you had it all with the echo,

3761
02:09:25,940 --> 02:09:28,440
like the old Mexican radio, AM radio.

3762
02:09:28,620 --> 02:09:30,460
Yeah, yeah, and go back and listen.

3763
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:31,940
I'm not gonna do that every single time.

3764
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:33,560
That's only for special occasions.

3765
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:36,460
So that it got through to the kids.

3766
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,480
Interesting, the stuff kids like.

3767
02:09:39,620 --> 02:09:40,640
That has to be what it was.

3768
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:41,740
I can't think of anything else.

3769
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:45,340
Well, thank you very much, Blue Acorn.

3770
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:48,360
Blue Acorn, yeah, Blue Acorn for your submission.

3771
02:09:48,500 --> 02:09:49,300
We appreciate that.

3772
02:09:49,500 --> 02:09:51,580
And of course, many of these pieces of

3773
02:09:51,580 --> 02:09:53,320
art can be found in the chapter art

3774
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:54,660
on the Modern Podcast app.

3775
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:55,700
It's well worth taking a look.

3776
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:57,460
A lot of people are using those apps

3777
02:09:57,460 --> 02:09:58,820
now and enjoying it.

3778
02:09:58,940 --> 02:10:00,400
So please continue to enjoy.

3779
02:10:00,980 --> 02:10:04,420
We always thank everybody who donates $50 or

3780
02:10:04,420 --> 02:10:04,800
above.

3781
02:10:04,980 --> 02:10:07,660
And now we'll get to the previously mentioned

3782
02:10:07,660 --> 02:10:08,660
executive producers.

3783
02:10:08,820 --> 02:10:09,780
We kick it off- But before we

3784
02:10:09,780 --> 02:10:12,140
do that- You got some things to

3785
02:10:12,140 --> 02:10:12,360
say?

3786
02:10:13,060 --> 02:10:13,620
Yes.

3787
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:14,060
Okay.

3788
02:10:14,620 --> 02:10:17,660
There's been a lot of donation, regular donation.

3789
02:10:17,820 --> 02:10:19,180
This is the 1st of January.

3790
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:23,060
All throughout January, a lot of regular donors

3791
02:10:23,060 --> 02:10:26,280
that have their recurring donations have been canceled.

3792
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:27,360
Canceled?

3793
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:29,620
Yeah, because this is the time credit cards

3794
02:10:29,620 --> 02:10:31,020
sometimes get swapped out.

3795
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:32,080
Expire.

3796
02:10:32,460 --> 02:10:35,040
People should check if they think they're still

3797
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:36,840
subscribing to the show through one of the

3798
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:40,020
programs, $33 a month or $5 even.

3799
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:42,480
But a lot of people still have $4.

3800
02:10:43,020 --> 02:10:44,400
Yeah, there's still some $4, but those are

3801
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:45,500
usually $4 a week.

3802
02:10:45,740 --> 02:10:49,440
And the 1111s, which goes back six, seven

3803
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,700
years, because that was the 11th episode, wasn't

3804
02:10:52,700 --> 02:10:52,840
it?

3805
02:10:52,940 --> 02:10:53,380
1111?

3806
02:10:54,220 --> 02:10:55,000
I'm not mistaken.

3807
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:56,700
I don't know what, the 1111 came up

3808
02:10:56,700 --> 02:10:58,960
as some lucky number that we got on

3809
02:10:58,960 --> 02:10:59,200
to.

3810
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:01,100
Please check.

3811
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:03,180
So check on that, because there's too many.

3812
02:11:03,220 --> 02:11:04,120
It's hurting the show.

3813
02:11:04,540 --> 02:11:05,280
It's hurting the show.

3814
02:11:05,380 --> 02:11:08,520
And the second thing is I noticed that

3815
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:11,000
every time after the football season, I usually,

3816
02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:13,180
I hate to be like a scrounger.

3817
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:16,200
What, what's so funny?

3818
02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:20,460
But I have not seen a hoodie or

3819
02:11:20,460 --> 02:11:24,320
a sweatshirt from Ohio State or Montana, the

3820
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:27,060
winners of the various championships or even the

3821
02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:29,900
Division II school, because I'm wearing one of

3822
02:11:29,900 --> 02:11:30,020
those.

3823
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:31,400
I wore it to the meetup.

3824
02:11:31,660 --> 02:11:31,760
Yes.

3825
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:37,920
One of the ones for the Bisons, Harding

3826
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:39,040
State, I think is the name.

3827
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:42,280
And I usually get one.

3828
02:11:42,380 --> 02:11:43,300
And I got one from Michigan.

3829
02:11:43,300 --> 02:11:46,220
I got stuff from Michigan last year, but

3830
02:11:46,220 --> 02:11:48,800
Ohio State people, I don't know what, there's

3831
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:49,500
a huge school.

3832
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:50,840
There should be somebody that listens to the

3833
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:54,240
show that could send me a championship sweatshirt

3834
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:55,580
or a championship hoodie.

3835
02:11:55,580 --> 02:11:56,940
I don't know why I haven't gotten that.

3836
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:58,140
So what you're saying is.

3837
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:01,480
When I used to do Leo's show, twit,

3838
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:03,760
and I'd make mention of this, I would

3839
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:04,700
get a ton of stuff.

3840
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:07,600
I don't know what the deal is.

3841
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:10,740
So not that I'm complaining or trying to

3842
02:12:10,740 --> 02:12:13,120
be a scrounger and getting free clothes.

3843
02:12:15,300 --> 02:12:17,220
No, see, this is why I was laughing

3844
02:12:17,220 --> 02:12:18,940
because of course you're doing that.

3845
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:20,060
I am?

3846
02:12:20,460 --> 02:12:21,760
Yeah, you want free clothes.

3847
02:12:22,780 --> 02:12:23,440
When's the last time you- So I

3848
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,540
also want to mention that for the Albany

3849
02:12:25,540 --> 02:12:31,440
meetup, I included where the executive producers' donations,

3850
02:12:31,620 --> 02:12:33,780
but the ones below $200 are going to

3851
02:12:33,780 --> 02:12:35,440
be on the next show, except for one,

3852
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:38,280
which I've gotten for this show, which is

3853
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:39,580
a note I wanted to read because it's

3854
02:12:39,580 --> 02:12:40,060
so funny.

3855
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:41,460
Okay, all right.

3856
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:43,680
So they're not even on the spreadsheet?

3857
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:44,600
They're all going to be next?

3858
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,260
No, the executive and associate executive producers are,

3859
02:12:47,300 --> 02:12:48,340
there's only three or four of them.

3860
02:12:48,640 --> 02:12:50,280
But the rest of them are going to

3861
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:51,040
be next show.

3862
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:53,160
And I had a great, and everyone at

3863
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:56,800
the meetup, I do have a photo, one

3864
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:58,080
of the guys, Richie Rich.

3865
02:12:58,200 --> 02:12:59,020
I saw the photo.

3866
02:12:59,300 --> 02:13:00,060
I saw the photo.

3867
02:13:00,340 --> 02:13:03,880
Well, that photo's misleading because his hair, it

3868
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:05,540
looks like he looks like a spook there

3869
02:13:05,540 --> 02:13:07,340
because that hair is gray in that photo.

3870
02:13:07,420 --> 02:13:08,340
Hold on, let me take a look.

3871
02:13:08,500 --> 02:13:09,660
The Richie Rich photo.

3872
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:10,820
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at it.

3873
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:11,900
He wanted to call you out.

3874
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:13,540
He made a big fuss about this and

3875
02:13:13,540 --> 02:13:17,180
he kept grabbing me and telling me, I

3876
02:13:17,180 --> 02:13:18,500
have to tell you this.

3877
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:18,900
What?

3878
02:13:19,410 --> 02:13:21,020
He's a year older than you and he's

3879
02:13:21,020 --> 02:13:22,040
got better hair.

3880
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,500
And to be honest about it, that hair

3881
02:13:24,500 --> 02:13:27,000
picture was very strange because that's a white

3882
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:27,680
balance problem.

3883
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:31,020
His hair is straw gold.

3884
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:32,120
It's gorgeous.

3885
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,480
This is the, this is the guy.

3886
02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:35,940
I mean it sincerely.

3887
02:13:36,220 --> 02:13:38,000
This is the guy with his arms folded

3888
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:38,620
in the picture?

3889
02:13:39,540 --> 02:13:41,100
No, this is the guy, this is a

3890
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:42,140
picture that came in separately.

3891
02:13:42,260 --> 02:13:45,300
I sent it to you separately under Richie

3892
02:13:45,300 --> 02:13:45,840
Rich photo.

3893
02:13:45,940 --> 02:13:48,160
And this is the ones where Steve, Crazy

3894
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:51,840
Steve is actually photo bombing, unwittingly photo bombing

3895
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:52,400
this shot.

3896
02:13:52,860 --> 02:13:54,420
But this guy's hair.

3897
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:56,320
Yeah, that's the same guy.

3898
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:57,800
It's the same guy in the other picture.

3899
02:13:57,920 --> 02:13:58,200
Oh yeah.

3900
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,320
Okay, well he's got, he's, it's so gray

3901
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:03,120
in these pictures, I'm just thinking that's not

3902
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:03,960
what his hair color is.

3903
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:04,400
Believe me.

3904
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:06,200
Wait a minute, so let me just understand.

3905
02:14:06,820 --> 02:14:08,560
He comes up to you and says, tell

3906
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:10,540
Curry my hair is better than his.

3907
02:14:10,620 --> 02:14:11,480
Is that what it was?

3908
02:14:11,860 --> 02:14:12,220
Yep.

3909
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:16,900
He's a dude named Ben from North Carolina.

3910
02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:19,400
How he got to the meetup is beyond

3911
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:19,760
me.

3912
02:14:20,940 --> 02:14:22,520
He had to make it to give you

3913
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:23,700
this important message.

3914
02:14:24,460 --> 02:14:26,640
He was very adamant about it.

3915
02:14:26,860 --> 02:14:28,940
Yeah, well, yeah, his hair is beautiful.

3916
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:30,260
You're a beautiful man.

3917
02:14:32,660 --> 02:14:33,600
What can I say?

3918
02:14:33,900 --> 02:14:34,600
It's true.

3919
02:14:34,780 --> 02:14:35,940
It's a very beautiful man.

3920
02:14:37,620 --> 02:14:39,100
Anyone were from the meetup or is that,

3921
02:14:39,180 --> 02:14:39,840
is that the whole report?

3922
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:41,940
Yeah, well no, I met a guy, a

3923
02:14:41,940 --> 02:14:43,100
guy and his sister came up.

3924
02:14:43,180 --> 02:14:45,940
She was from Dallas and he was from

3925
02:14:45,940 --> 02:14:46,400
Burbank.

3926
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:47,660
Hey, wanna meet my sister?

3927
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:48,380
Is that what he said?

3928
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:52,060
No, but I was glad to meet her.

3929
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:56,420
She was an art, an international art dealer.

3930
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:57,440
So that was kind of cool.

3931
02:14:58,520 --> 02:15:01,520
But he was more interesting because, although she

3932
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:03,800
was interesting, he was interesting because he had

3933
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:06,700
worked for Steve Breitbart during, when he was

3934
02:15:06,700 --> 02:15:07,320
alive.

3935
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:08,700
Andrew Breitbart.

3936
02:15:09,260 --> 02:15:10,060
Andrew, I'm sorry.

3937
02:15:10,260 --> 02:15:11,440
When I think Steve.

3938
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:11,980
Barron.

3939
02:15:13,180 --> 02:15:14,140
Yeah, probably.

3940
02:15:14,580 --> 02:15:16,900
Yeah, Andrew Breitbart when he was alive and

3941
02:15:16,900 --> 02:15:21,380
he and his sister, Ariana, they both think

3942
02:15:21,380 --> 02:15:22,000
he was murdered.

3943
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:23,060
And I think so too.

3944
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:24,680
Yeah, well, I think that's our consensus as

3945
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:24,940
well.

3946
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:28,460
And then he went to work for Project

3947
02:15:28,460 --> 02:15:29,200
Veritas.

3948
02:15:29,540 --> 02:15:30,580
Oh, interesting.

3949
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:32,740
So he knows a bunch of that stuff.

3950
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:37,040
And now he's writing screenplays, which I'm gonna.

3951
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:39,380
So he's a spy and she's a money

3952
02:15:39,380 --> 02:15:40,000
launderer.

3953
02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:41,200
Nice group.

3954
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:43,360
Nice group.

3955
02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:45,920
It's funny you say that because his screenplays

3956
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:47,180
are both about spooks.

3957
02:15:47,260 --> 02:15:49,220
Uh-huh, mm-hmm, yeah.

3958
02:15:49,340 --> 02:15:50,420
Well, this is what happens.

3959
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:52,940
This is why you need to go to

3960
02:15:52,940 --> 02:15:53,920
a No Agenda meetup.

3961
02:15:54,400 --> 02:15:55,340
They are awesome.

3962
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:57,140
I gave the two of them the lineup

3963
02:15:57,140 --> 02:15:59,400
and she kind of warmed up to this

3964
02:15:59,400 --> 02:15:59,640
too.

3965
02:15:59,980 --> 02:16:02,660
The lineup of watching certain shows that are

3966
02:16:02,660 --> 02:16:04,640
spook shows that you and I both enjoy.

3967
02:16:04,640 --> 02:16:06,740
Oh, and then the British Angle?

3968
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:08,980
Well, no, not the British Angle.

3969
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:10,300
I'm talking about the classics.

3970
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:12,580
Rubicon has to be viewed.

3971
02:16:12,580 --> 02:16:13,700
Berlin Station.

3972
02:16:13,700 --> 02:16:15,100
Berlin Station is another one.

3973
02:16:15,300 --> 02:16:17,020
The ones that actually give you a little

3974
02:16:17,020 --> 02:16:18,720
tidbits of what's going on.

3975
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:19,900
Yeah, a little bit of the real stuff,

3976
02:16:19,940 --> 02:16:20,600
of the good stuff.

3977
02:16:21,740 --> 02:16:22,120
All right.

3978
02:16:22,340 --> 02:16:23,180
No, it was great.

3979
02:16:23,540 --> 02:16:26,320
Everybody was, it was all nights.

3980
02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:27,900
Everybody had the place.

3981
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:28,420
It was nights.

3982
02:16:28,660 --> 02:16:30,140
The regulars, a lot of regulars I was

3983
02:16:30,140 --> 02:16:31,400
expecting to see I didn't see.

3984
02:16:32,180 --> 02:16:33,580
It was a very strange meetup.

3985
02:16:33,959 --> 02:16:34,719
Were there any kids?

3986
02:16:35,700 --> 02:16:36,660
No, it was at a bar.

3987
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:37,559
Oh, okay.

3988
02:16:37,719 --> 02:16:38,040
I thought this.

3989
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:38,799
The next meetup will be.

3990
02:16:39,059 --> 02:16:39,520
Oh, the next, okay.

3991
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:41,920
Well, as I said, Chicago also had a

3992
02:16:41,920 --> 02:16:42,180
meetup.

3993
02:16:42,180 --> 02:16:43,719
A lot of people, a lot of nights.

3994
02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:45,340
This was a good meetup weekend.

3995
02:16:46,120 --> 02:16:46,700
I guess so.

3996
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:49,700
So we will thank Hayes, who comes in

3997
02:16:49,700 --> 02:16:52,420
with a cool 1000 to save the day.

3998
02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:53,580
And he asked for a de-douche.

3999
02:16:55,400 --> 02:16:57,080
You've been de-douched.

4000
02:16:58,379 --> 02:17:00,200
And he says, thank you for your courage.

4001
02:17:00,780 --> 02:17:02,660
I appreciate all that you both put into

4002
02:17:02,660 --> 02:17:03,100
the show.

4003
02:17:03,500 --> 02:17:07,780
Hayes, and he is at jvgcoffeemechanics.com.

4004
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:09,280
Not sure exactly what that is.

4005
02:17:09,299 --> 02:17:10,639
And he doesn't ask for a nighting or

4006
02:17:10,639 --> 02:17:10,900
anything.

4007
02:17:10,900 --> 02:17:14,200
So if you want to be nighted, let

4008
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:14,540
us know.

4009
02:17:14,620 --> 02:17:15,900
We'll gladly take care of that.

4010
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:16,799
And thank you very much.

4011
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:17,820
It's highly appreciated.

4012
02:17:20,299 --> 02:17:22,180
JVG Coffee Mechanics, huh?

4013
02:17:23,059 --> 02:17:26,180
Marvin McDonald comes up from Clarksville, Arkansas, 333

4014
02:17:26,180 --> 02:17:29,799
.33. He says, thanks for all you do.

4015
02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:31,180
I'd like a de-douching.

4016
02:17:32,980 --> 02:17:34,700
You've been de-douched.

4017
02:17:35,639 --> 02:17:37,260
And he wants some goat karma.

4018
02:17:37,559 --> 02:17:38,879
All right, we got it for you.

4019
02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:39,780
You've got.

4020
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:41,780
Karma.

4021
02:17:43,860 --> 02:17:48,600
Then we have Sir Lawrence of Dystopia from

4022
02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:51,820
Oakland, California, 333.33. And I can hear

4023
02:17:51,820 --> 02:17:52,799
you have his note.

4024
02:17:53,980 --> 02:17:54,760
Yes, I do.

4025
02:17:55,780 --> 02:18:00,120
So he dropped off at 333.33. Local,

4026
02:18:00,420 --> 02:18:02,480
oh man, I have to get my other

4027
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:03,820
reading glasses to read this note.

4028
02:18:04,299 --> 02:18:09,959
While listening to Mark Stevens, Jr., My Family

4029
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:14,540
Thinks I'm Crazy podcast.

4030
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:16,719
My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast.

4031
02:18:16,799 --> 02:18:17,719
I don't know if you've heard of it.

4032
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:22,059
When he was a guest on no less

4033
02:18:22,059 --> 02:18:27,860
than two different podcasts, Republican Death Squad, okay,

4034
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:29,120
I'm gonna have to read this note later

4035
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,600
and get my other glasses because the contrast

4036
02:18:31,600 --> 02:18:32,520
is just too low.

4037
02:18:33,559 --> 02:18:34,600
It's like he typed it.

4038
02:18:34,740 --> 02:18:36,360
Well, I'll do this next one and then

4039
02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:40,120
you go, then you go and get your

4040
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:40,459
glasses.

4041
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:42,620
And I'll do James DuPont from Ewing, New

4042
02:18:42,620 --> 02:18:44,440
Jersey, 333.

4043
02:18:44,740 --> 02:18:46,219
He says, forgive me for being a major

4044
02:18:46,219 --> 02:18:46,920
douchebag.

4045
02:18:47,340 --> 02:18:50,040
He says, I've sent Adam 1984 via Get

4046
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:50,540
Albie.

4047
02:18:51,480 --> 02:18:54,120
This should take me with my older donations

4048
02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:58,459
to Night of Soul Fun Meme, Soul Fun

4049
02:18:58,459 --> 02:18:58,860
Meme.

4050
02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:02,440
And he has soulfunmeme.com.

4051
02:19:02,600 --> 02:19:04,360
What is soulfunmeme.com?

4052
02:19:04,420 --> 02:19:05,360
Let me take a look at this.

4053
02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:07,680
Is that some kind of a Solana thing?

4054
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:14,160
Let me see, soulfunmeme.com or meme, soulfunmeme?

4055
02:19:15,080 --> 02:19:16,400
So what is this?

4056
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:21,879
Soulfunmeme, soulfunmeme.com, here we go.

4057
02:19:22,459 --> 02:19:23,040
I have no idea.

4058
02:19:23,420 --> 02:19:26,860
Oh, crafted for launching private personal AI startup,

4059
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:30,620
software as a service and business AI agents.

4060
02:19:31,940 --> 02:19:33,820
All right, there you go.

4061
02:19:34,459 --> 02:19:38,360
And so the back office has approved this.

4062
02:19:38,440 --> 02:19:40,059
So you will be knighted, James DuPont, and

4063
02:19:40,059 --> 02:19:40,820
thank you very much.

4064
02:19:41,879 --> 02:19:43,280
Okay, now I'm gonna read a note.

4065
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:47,240
We'll listen to Mark Stevens, Jr. of my

4066
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:49,780
Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast when he was

4067
02:19:49,780 --> 02:19:51,460
a guest on no less than two different

4068
02:19:51,460 --> 02:19:56,680
podcasts, Nephilim Death Squad, episode 105, and Biocharisma

4069
02:19:56,680 --> 02:19:57,220
podcast.

4070
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:01,620
By the way, I noticed this, that these

4071
02:20:01,620 --> 02:20:04,260
people that are at the last meetup, they're

4072
02:20:04,260 --> 02:20:07,880
all a bunch of podcast addicts.

4073
02:20:08,020 --> 02:20:08,700
You know, they're addicted.

4074
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:11,720
And in fact, they were grilling me about,

4075
02:20:11,780 --> 02:20:13,600
do you ever listen to anybody else's podcast?

4076
02:20:15,340 --> 02:20:16,700
And he goes on, he says, he stated

4077
02:20:16,700 --> 02:20:19,220
how he feels hope that if his aunt

4078
02:20:19,220 --> 02:20:23,660
is listening to no agenda, this guy, this

4079
02:20:23,660 --> 02:20:26,360
Mark Stevens, then there is hope for sanity

4080
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:28,560
and awareness, amen.

4081
02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:29,920
Okay.

4082
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:32,280
No agenda gives me a feeling that I

4083
02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:34,760
haven't felt since I used to stay up

4084
02:20:34,760 --> 02:20:37,540
and watch The Daily Show with Craig Kilburn,

4085
02:20:37,780 --> 02:20:38,080
wow.

4086
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:39,900
That's like before I was born.

4087
02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:43,040
For reference, it's that same feeling you get

4088
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:45,120
when you just blew up the Death Star.

4089
02:20:46,220 --> 02:20:49,480
There's a, there's a, wow, that's an interesting

4090
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:49,920
comment.

4091
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:50,480
Nice.

4092
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:52,720
In honor of my wife's excellent mac and

4093
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:55,280
cheese, may I get a mac and cheese,

4094
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:58,260
screw your freedoms, and donate, this is the

4095
02:20:58,260 --> 02:21:00,600
three things he wants, and I'll continue reading,

4096
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:02,100
you can dig those up, mac and cheese,

4097
02:21:02,220 --> 02:21:04,680
screw your freedom, and donate.

4098
02:21:05,880 --> 02:21:07,660
In close, please find a token of gratitude

4099
02:21:07,660 --> 02:21:08,880
for all that you do.

4100
02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:11,600
Thanks for your courage, and ask me about

4101
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:13,320
my latest gun purchase.

4102
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:18,100
Adios, mofos, Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, and he's

4103
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:18,600
in Oakland.

4104
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:22,620
It was, he's also killer, Oscar six, I

4105
02:21:22,620 --> 02:21:25,800
echo Juliet Echo, so he's a ham, too.

4106
02:21:25,800 --> 02:21:26,500
Nice.

4107
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:29,720
Mac and cheese, freedom, and donate?

4108
02:21:30,660 --> 02:21:30,900
Yeah.

4109
02:21:30,980 --> 02:21:31,600
That was the three?

4110
02:21:32,140 --> 02:21:32,460
Okay.

4111
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:33,500
Oh, well, excellent.

4112
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:36,960
♪ Living the mac and cheese life ♪

4113
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:38,720
Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.

4114
02:21:38,860 --> 02:21:41,280
By the way, today is Ayn Rand's 120th

4115
02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:41,620
birthday.

4116
02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:42,140
Freedom!

4117
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:43,880
Oops, wrong one.

4118
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:45,620
You've got.

4119
02:21:48,460 --> 02:21:51,680
Donate, donate, donate.

4120
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:52,940
Karma.

4121
02:21:54,880 --> 02:21:56,220
Screw your freedom.

4122
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:57,900
There we go, I got it in.

4123
02:21:58,100 --> 02:21:58,620
All right.

4124
02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:00,800
Yeah, Ayn Rand would have been 120.

4125
02:22:03,420 --> 02:22:07,340
Nelson Ariza is in Lawrenceville, Georgia, 333.

4126
02:22:07,580 --> 02:22:09,120
He says, I appreciate you guys.

4127
02:22:09,620 --> 02:22:10,940
Well, thank you, we appreciate you.

4128
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:13,380
Please give me Trump's, Trump jobs, karma, and

4129
02:22:13,380 --> 02:22:14,560
I love my truck.

4130
02:22:14,980 --> 02:22:17,680
Jobs, jobs, jobs.

4131
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:22,200
You've got karma.

4132
02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:24,420
I love my truck, and I love my

4133
02:22:24,420 --> 02:22:24,520
truck.

4134
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:25,500
I love what I do.

4135
02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:26,120
Nice.

4136
02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:33,560
Nathan Hallgren in Rockford, Illinois, 300, no note,

4137
02:22:33,640 --> 02:22:35,760
no nothing, so he gets a double up

4138
02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:36,020
karma.

4139
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:38,220
You've got.

4140
02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:40,840
Karma.

4141
02:22:41,460 --> 02:22:44,820
And the same for Sir Robert Montoya, Pleasant

4142
02:22:44,820 --> 02:22:47,560
Hill, California, $300, no note, so that also

4143
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:48,900
gives him a double up karma.

4144
02:22:49,260 --> 02:22:49,980
You've got.

4145
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:52,580
Karma.

4146
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:57,520
And now we have Little John's Candies.

4147
02:22:57,640 --> 02:23:01,120
Ah, yes, this is an interesting situation.

4148
02:23:02,660 --> 02:23:06,060
Little John's Candy, this is Christopher, and now

4149
02:23:06,060 --> 02:23:09,760
he brought with him either his wife, or

4150
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:11,340
his girlfriend, or his sister.

4151
02:23:11,540 --> 02:23:11,800
I can't remember.

4152
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:13,380
Maybe his mom, could have been his mom.

4153
02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:16,500
No, it was, no, it was, no, definitely

4154
02:23:16,500 --> 02:23:17,200
not his mom.

4155
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:17,500
Okay.

4156
02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:19,800
And I can't remember her name, but he

4157
02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:21,120
wrote it down in this check, but he

4158
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:23,020
scribbled it, it was Mackie.

4159
02:23:23,020 --> 02:23:25,020
Oh my God, I want some of these.

4160
02:23:26,780 --> 02:23:31,140
So this is donations from Bay Area Little

4161
02:23:31,140 --> 02:23:34,460
John's Candies in Somerset, California, and I talked

4162
02:23:34,460 --> 02:23:36,360
to her for a minute, and they're living

4163
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:38,880
up in Fiddletown, I believe, which is in

4164
02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:41,300
the Volcano area of California.

4165
02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:44,940
And I didn't get to talk to her

4166
02:23:44,940 --> 02:23:45,220
enough.

4167
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:48,040
ITM gentleman, he writes, as a San Francisco

4168
02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:50,060
refugee and business owner, thank you for keeping

4169
02:23:50,060 --> 02:23:50,600
me sane.

4170
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:52,240
I was hit in the mouth by my

4171
02:23:52,240 --> 02:23:54,340
smoking hot wife, really smoking hot, but it

4172
02:23:54,340 --> 02:23:55,700
must be the one who was right.

4173
02:23:55,900 --> 02:23:56,900
Now we know who it was.

4174
02:23:57,620 --> 02:24:00,820
Yeah, during our refugee journey to the, yeah,

4175
02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:02,580
that's got it, she was, okay, there's his

4176
02:24:02,580 --> 02:24:02,820
wife.

4177
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:05,280
Realm of the Sierra foothills.

4178
02:24:05,700 --> 02:24:07,860
We listened while driving back and forth from

4179
02:24:07,860 --> 02:24:10,620
San Francisco to Fiddletown as we moved our

4180
02:24:10,620 --> 02:24:13,820
100-year-old candy business, Little John's, away

4181
02:24:13,820 --> 02:24:15,540
from the poop and the needles.

4182
02:24:17,100 --> 02:24:19,360
They're 100 years old, they look great.

4183
02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:20,380
1924.

4184
02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:21,860
Look great for their age.

4185
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:25,840
Well, the candy's 1924.

4186
02:24:26,420 --> 02:24:29,060
Now we listen while making candy the old

4187
02:24:29,060 --> 02:24:29,940
-fashioned way.

4188
02:24:30,140 --> 02:24:33,040
Little John's Candies, handcrafts, world-famous, English toffee,

4189
02:24:33,140 --> 02:24:34,940
it's quite good, by the way, because he

4190
02:24:34,940 --> 02:24:36,280
brought a sample pack for everybody.

4191
02:24:36,280 --> 02:24:39,200
I'm looking at the website, littlejohnscandies.com.

4192
02:24:39,260 --> 02:24:42,120
I would love to try some chocolate-covered

4193
02:24:42,120 --> 02:24:43,120
molasses chips.

4194
02:24:44,380 --> 02:24:45,820
That looks good.

4195
02:24:46,780 --> 02:24:47,220
Woo!

4196
02:24:47,540 --> 02:24:49,940
You can ask Adam for his address, you

4197
02:24:49,940 --> 02:24:50,540
can send him some.

4198
02:24:50,580 --> 02:24:51,540
Yes, I'd love that.

4199
02:24:51,540 --> 02:24:54,260
English toffee and fine candies, using the recipes

4200
02:24:54,260 --> 02:24:56,080
from the 20s, 30s, and 40s.

4201
02:24:56,100 --> 02:24:57,060
These are old recipes.

4202
02:24:57,220 --> 02:24:57,920
Old school.

4203
02:24:58,340 --> 02:25:00,560
So for a sweet treat for your smokin'

4204
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:04,120
hot wife, go to littlejohnscandies.com and use

4205
02:25:04,120 --> 02:25:06,380
code ITM10 for 10% off your purchase.

4206
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:11,300
There you go, another advertisement posing as a

4207
02:25:11,300 --> 02:25:11,520
note.

4208
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:12,140
The mushroom.

4209
02:25:12,140 --> 02:25:13,560
Thank you for all the producers of the

4210
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:14,820
best podcast in the universe.

4211
02:25:16,460 --> 02:25:18,380
Then he's got, this is hand-type, too.

4212
02:25:19,340 --> 02:25:21,500
Traded in my San Francisco needles and poop

4213
02:25:21,500 --> 02:25:23,300
for pine needles and deer poop.

4214
02:25:23,900 --> 02:25:24,340
Christopher.

4215
02:25:25,900 --> 02:25:26,780
Marshmallow delights.

4216
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:28,080
Wow.

4217
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:30,720
Whatever happened to the No Agenda fudge people?

4218
02:25:31,660 --> 02:25:32,220
I'm out.

4219
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:34,300
No, well, he said.

4220
02:25:34,420 --> 02:25:34,880
I'm out.

4221
02:25:35,020 --> 02:25:37,260
It was a promotion until Christmas.

4222
02:25:37,820 --> 02:25:39,000
Yeah, the fudge is done.

4223
02:25:39,080 --> 02:25:39,880
You're gonna have to wait a year.

4224
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:40,520
I'm out.

4225
02:25:40,620 --> 02:25:41,420
I'm out of fudge.

4226
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:44,560
And I love my drug.

4227
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:47,540
Alex Rickman, or Reichman.

4228
02:25:47,760 --> 02:25:48,920
I think Rickman, maybe.

4229
02:25:49,500 --> 02:25:54,660
Parts Unknown, $210.60. Drunk donation.

4230
02:25:55,700 --> 02:25:57,880
Cheers to another four years of the show.

4231
02:25:58,240 --> 02:25:59,840
No, it's the final four years.

4232
02:26:00,540 --> 02:26:03,200
Can I get a Trains Good, Planes Bad

4233
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:05,140
jingle in light of recent events?

4234
02:26:05,540 --> 02:26:07,800
These planes be droppin' from the sky.

4235
02:26:07,960 --> 02:26:08,860
All aboard.

4236
02:26:08,860 --> 02:26:11,240
Trains Good, Planes Bad.

4237
02:26:12,180 --> 02:26:12,720
Woo-hoo!

4238
02:26:15,320 --> 02:26:17,080
Here we go, Eli the Coffee Guy in

4239
02:26:17,080 --> 02:26:17,940
Bensonville, Illinois.

4240
02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:22,240
$202.02. I had a great time at

4241
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:23,120
the Chicago meetup.

4242
02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:25,480
I finally saw a picture of Eli.

4243
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:28,020
Nothing like you'd expect him to look like.

4244
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:30,540
What does he look like?

4245
02:26:30,860 --> 02:26:32,120
No, I'm not gonna tell you.

4246
02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:33,860
Maybe he wants to be incognito.

4247
02:26:34,500 --> 02:26:35,920
What do you think he looks like?

4248
02:26:37,740 --> 02:26:42,500
He looks like a middle-aged, dark-haired,

4249
02:26:45,100 --> 02:26:52,100
probably about 5'11 to 6'1, medium

4250
02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:55,820
build, mustachioed maybe.

4251
02:26:58,380 --> 02:26:59,340
I don't know.

4252
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:03,900
He's like a big guy, Latin guy.

4253
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:06,240
Oh, he's a big Latin guy.

4254
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:07,900
Yeah, he's a big Latin guy, the way

4255
02:27:07,900 --> 02:27:08,580
I saw it.

4256
02:27:09,020 --> 02:27:10,440
Could be an eskimo for all I know.

4257
02:27:10,460 --> 02:27:11,700
Maybe it's a white balance issue.

4258
02:27:11,780 --> 02:27:12,020
Maybe.

4259
02:27:12,620 --> 02:27:14,120
There are lots of very fine people on

4260
02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:15,520
both sides of the bar.

4261
02:27:16,040 --> 02:27:18,080
The turnout was good, and even had a

4262
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:21,480
knight and dame from Fort Wayne come out.

4263
02:27:22,060 --> 02:27:23,760
Some saw old friends and made some new

4264
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:24,020
ones.

4265
02:27:24,640 --> 02:27:26,400
Thank you, Adam and John, for helping create

4266
02:27:26,400 --> 02:27:26,940
this community.

4267
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:29,380
We didn't raffle the coffee, no tickets.

4268
02:27:29,980 --> 02:27:33,220
However, everyone left a winner with some samples.

4269
02:27:33,340 --> 02:27:35,260
Good, good, smart, smart.

4270
02:27:35,820 --> 02:27:37,700
Yeah, this is good for about two cups.

4271
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:40,780
For producers feeling left out of the fun,

4272
02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:43,780
just visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code

4273
02:27:43,780 --> 02:27:45,540
ITM20 for 20% off your order.

4274
02:27:45,620 --> 02:27:46,640
It's like a meetup in a cup.

4275
02:27:49,120 --> 02:27:50,900
He's writing ad copy now.

4276
02:27:51,700 --> 02:27:53,840
Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy.

4277
02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:54,940
A meetup in a cup.

4278
02:27:54,940 --> 02:27:55,780
A meetup in a cup.

4279
02:27:55,940 --> 02:27:57,760
And from Eli, we go to Linda Lou

4280
02:27:57,760 --> 02:27:59,820
Patkin from Lakewood, Colorado with $200.

4281
02:28:00,140 --> 02:28:01,760
She does it every single show, and we

4282
02:28:01,760 --> 02:28:02,960
appreciate that so much.

4283
02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:06,020
She asks simply for jobs, Karma, and says

4284
02:28:06,020 --> 02:28:08,320
for a winning resume and a faster job

4285
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:10,500
search, go to imagemakersinc.com.

4286
02:28:10,580 --> 02:28:12,360
That's imagemakersinc with a K.

4287
02:28:12,740 --> 02:28:14,860
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

4288
02:28:14,860 --> 02:28:16,860
and writer of resumes, your go-to for

4289
02:28:16,860 --> 02:28:19,600
all your executive resume and job search needs.

4290
02:28:19,860 --> 02:28:23,040
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4291
02:28:23,260 --> 02:28:24,760
Let's vote for jobs.

4292
02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:26,740
You got it, Karma.

4293
02:28:28,700 --> 02:28:32,060
And last on our list here is Charles

4294
02:28:32,060 --> 02:28:33,000
Neal.

4295
02:28:33,780 --> 02:28:36,880
Charles Neal in Austin, right around the corner.

4296
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:38,300
200 bucks.

4297
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:40,580
Hey guys, since I forgot to do this

4298
02:28:40,580 --> 02:28:43,960
with my first donation, please de-douche me.

4299
02:28:44,620 --> 02:28:45,720
That's the great word.

4300
02:28:45,860 --> 02:28:47,400
You've been de-douched.

4301
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,100
And that's it for our executive and associate

4302
02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:53,580
executive producers for episode 1,735.

4303
02:28:53,860 --> 02:28:56,280
Get them in now, kids, while it's still

4304
02:28:56,280 --> 02:28:56,720
good, while they're still good.

4305
02:28:57,640 --> 02:28:59,360
Less than four more years.

4306
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:01,300
That's how much longer we're gonna be here.

4307
02:29:01,380 --> 02:29:03,120
And even 21 sounds like a good number

4308
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:03,500
to me.

4309
02:29:04,060 --> 02:29:05,480
Who knows what we'll do after that.

4310
02:29:05,620 --> 02:29:07,600
And thank you, of course, to everyone under

4311
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:09,880
$50 and above and under $50.

4312
02:29:10,180 --> 02:29:12,080
We'll be thanking those people, not the under

4313
02:29:12,080 --> 02:29:13,480
50s, but the 50 and above in our

4314
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4326
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4331
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4332
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I want to start off a little light

4333
02:29:54,340 --> 02:29:56,040
here with a prescient clip.

4334
02:29:56,200 --> 02:29:57,760
This is one of the clips that's been

4335
02:29:57,760 --> 02:29:59,720
floating around the last couple of days from

4336
02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:00,660
the Simpsons.

4337
02:30:02,680 --> 02:30:05,180
The Simpsons who seem to predict everything back,

4338
02:30:05,320 --> 02:30:06,280
you know, 20 years ago.

4339
02:30:06,380 --> 02:30:07,260
The show's been on forever.

4340
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:09,360
Have you seen this one?

4341
02:30:09,540 --> 02:30:10,040
I don't know.

4342
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:11,560
Sideshow Bob?

4343
02:30:11,720 --> 02:30:13,200
Yeah, we're going to take a listen.

4344
02:30:13,460 --> 02:30:14,260
I'll be back.

4345
02:30:14,420 --> 02:30:15,980
You can't keep the Democrats out of the

4346
02:30:15,980 --> 02:30:16,660
White House forever.

4347
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:18,840
And when they get in, I'm back on

4348
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:19,960
the streets with all of my friends.

4349
02:30:19,960 --> 02:30:21,140
All my criminal buddies.

4350
02:30:21,500 --> 02:30:21,760
Boom!

4351
02:30:27,460 --> 02:30:30,560
Again, predicting reality is amazing what those Simpsons

4352
02:30:30,560 --> 02:30:31,080
can do.

4353
02:30:31,820 --> 02:30:32,780
It's amazing.

4354
02:30:32,900 --> 02:30:33,780
You know, you look at this.

4355
02:30:33,980 --> 02:30:34,520
What?

4356
02:30:35,700 --> 02:30:37,640
Yeah, that is interesting.

4357
02:30:41,020 --> 02:30:43,460
Oh, probably should play this just as a

4358
02:30:43,460 --> 02:30:46,740
little update as the winning continues.

4359
02:30:47,380 --> 02:30:50,660
President Trump has had some serious conversations with

4360
02:30:50,660 --> 02:30:51,800
Russia about Ukraine.

4361
02:30:51,960 --> 02:30:54,260
U.S. President Donald Trump has said his

4362
02:30:54,260 --> 02:30:57,800
administration has had very serious discussions with Russia

4363
02:30:57,800 --> 02:30:59,100
about the war in Ukraine.

4364
02:30:59,500 --> 02:31:01,640
Trump said that he and Russian President Vladimir

4365
02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:05,240
Putin could soon take significant action towards ending

4366
02:31:05,240 --> 02:31:06,560
the three-year conflict.

4367
02:31:06,900 --> 02:31:09,260
Trump didn't say who from his administration has

4368
02:31:09,260 --> 02:31:11,680
been in contact with Moscow, but insisted the

4369
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:13,640
two sides were already talking.

4370
02:31:13,940 --> 02:31:16,180
Trump has said repeatedly he wouldn't have allowed

4371
02:31:16,180 --> 02:31:18,240
the conflict to start if he'd been in

4372
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:19,620
office in 2022.

4373
02:31:20,180 --> 02:31:23,120
Since returning to office, Trump has criticized Ukrainian

4374
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:25,900
President Volodymyr Zelensky saying he should have made

4375
02:31:25,900 --> 02:31:28,080
a deal with Putin to avoid the conflict.

4376
02:31:28,580 --> 02:31:31,800
He also criticized Joe Biden's administration for spending

4377
02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:34,380
billions in U.S. taxpayer money on military

4378
02:31:34,380 --> 02:31:36,120
and economic aid for Kyiv.

4379
02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:38,480
Ukraine currently relies on the U.S. for

4380
02:31:38,480 --> 02:31:40,900
around 40% of its military needs, and

4381
02:31:40,900 --> 02:31:44,340
since February 2022, Washington has sent Kyiv more

4382
02:31:44,340 --> 02:31:46,360
than 62 billion euros.

4383
02:31:48,740 --> 02:31:50,900
There's a lot going on in Germany right

4384
02:31:50,900 --> 02:31:52,740
now, but I don't know if you've been

4385
02:31:52,740 --> 02:31:53,520
following that.

4386
02:31:57,380 --> 02:32:02,120
So the German, well, listen to this report

4387
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:04,760
and then I'll give you some background and

4388
02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:05,400
detail on it.

4389
02:32:05,500 --> 02:32:09,500
Shortly before Germany's election, lawmakers debated the possible

4390
02:32:09,500 --> 02:32:11,920
ban of the far-right AFD party.

4391
02:32:12,460 --> 02:32:14,860
The path to a legal exclusion, however, is

4392
02:32:14,860 --> 02:32:15,200
long.

4393
02:32:15,560 --> 02:32:18,900
On Thursday, MPs discussed the first step, examining

4394
02:32:18,900 --> 02:32:21,400
whether AFD is anti-constitutional.

4395
02:32:21,640 --> 02:32:23,760
The AFD is not a party, it's just

4396
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:24,840
a little bit to the right.

4397
02:32:25,320 --> 02:32:26,720
They are enemies of the constitution.

4398
02:32:27,160 --> 02:32:28,560
They are enemies of our democracy.

4399
02:32:28,880 --> 02:32:30,140
They are enemies of mankind.

4400
02:32:30,940 --> 02:32:32,780
AFD didn't hold back.

4401
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:37,400
We embody democracy in Germany, ladies and gentlemen.

4402
02:32:38,420 --> 02:32:41,380
We are for referendums, for the separation of

4403
02:32:41,380 --> 02:32:44,000
powers, for the rule of law for everyone.

4404
02:32:44,540 --> 02:32:47,080
The debate to ban the AFD was resumed

4405
02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:50,520
after Wednesday's motion for a stricter migration policy,

4406
02:32:50,900 --> 02:32:53,200
proposed by the leader of the Conservative Party

4407
02:32:53,200 --> 02:32:56,660
CDU, Friedrich Merz, and pushed through the Bundestag

4408
02:32:56,660 --> 02:32:58,160
with the help of the far-right.

4409
02:32:58,520 --> 02:33:01,700
In a rare intervention, Angela Merkel accused Merz

4410
02:33:01,700 --> 02:33:04,040
of breaking a pledge to not work with

4411
02:33:04,040 --> 02:33:04,740
the AFD.

4412
02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:06,380
I think it is wrong to no longer

4413
02:33:06,380 --> 02:33:09,140
feel bound by this proposal and thereby knowingly

4414
02:33:09,140 --> 02:33:11,400
allowed the AFD to gain a majority in

4415
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:13,260
a vote in the German Bundestag on the

4416
02:33:13,260 --> 02:33:16,680
29th of January, 2025, for the first time.

4417
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:19,540
The leader of the Conservatives tried to defuse

4418
02:33:19,540 --> 02:33:20,160
the tensions.

4419
02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:24,740
There is no cooperation between the CDU, CSU,

4420
02:33:24,860 --> 02:33:27,040
and the far-right, and the AFD can

4421
02:33:27,040 --> 02:33:28,760
now triumph as much as they want.

4422
02:33:29,420 --> 02:33:30,480
This will not happen.

4423
02:33:31,060 --> 02:33:32,660
I want us to solve the problems and

4424
02:33:32,660 --> 02:33:35,220
for this party to get smaller again, not

4425
02:33:35,220 --> 02:33:35,640
bigger.

4426
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:39,500
But the controversial immigration vote sparked protests in

4427
02:33:39,500 --> 02:33:43,120
the largest German cities like Berlin, Munich, Dortmund,

4428
02:33:43,300 --> 02:33:45,260
and Leipzig for a second day in a

4429
02:33:45,260 --> 02:33:45,440
row.

4430
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:55,340
So just because the immigrant, irregular migrant influx,

4431
02:33:56,180 --> 02:33:58,840
there was a bill or a law being

4432
02:33:58,840 --> 02:34:01,180
proposed to reduce the amount of immigrants that

4433
02:34:01,180 --> 02:34:01,780
can come in.

4434
02:34:01,780 --> 02:34:04,860
And believe me, the Germans are sick of

4435
02:34:04,860 --> 02:34:05,040
it.

4436
02:34:05,740 --> 02:34:07,140
They're just like everyone else in Europe.

4437
02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:08,840
They're sick of what's going on.

4438
02:34:09,340 --> 02:34:12,620
So instead of doing that, because it's a

4439
02:34:12,620 --> 02:34:16,060
very key policy of the far-right AFD,

4440
02:34:16,380 --> 02:34:17,820
they all voted against it.

4441
02:34:18,640 --> 02:34:21,560
Germany is committing suicide.

4442
02:34:23,900 --> 02:34:31,060
It's unbelievable what their ideology is doing to

4443
02:34:31,060 --> 02:34:32,880
their people and to the country.

4444
02:34:33,540 --> 02:34:35,320
It's just insane.

4445
02:34:35,540 --> 02:34:37,240
It's been going on forever.

4446
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:39,600
This is a slow creep.

4447
02:34:40,040 --> 02:34:42,680
This is like political correctness in this country,

4448
02:34:43,040 --> 02:34:46,420
which evolved into the trans-Maoist movement, which

4449
02:34:46,420 --> 02:34:49,580
started in the late 70s and early 80s.

4450
02:34:49,640 --> 02:34:50,840
That's the first time I ever heard the

4451
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:53,360
term political correctness was from one of the

4452
02:34:53,360 --> 02:34:55,000
Lib Jos, actually was a writer.

4453
02:34:55,740 --> 02:34:59,620
And it just starts eating away.

4454
02:34:59,960 --> 02:35:02,640
The Germans at the time, we're just talking

4455
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:04,960
about political correctness, they were already all in

4456
02:35:04,960 --> 02:35:08,000
on no plastic packaging.

4457
02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:11,420
And when you went to Germany, paper straws.

4458
02:35:11,960 --> 02:35:16,320
Everything was already set in place.

4459
02:35:16,880 --> 02:35:17,960
And then when they got to the point

4460
02:35:17,960 --> 02:35:23,880
where they shut down their nukes, their nuclear

4461
02:35:23,880 --> 02:35:27,440
power, it was like, you've gone too far.

4462
02:35:27,700 --> 02:35:29,840
And this woman who runs the AFD, or

4463
02:35:29,840 --> 02:35:31,560
she's one of the co-chairs anyway, she's

4464
02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:37,100
Alice Wiedel, she is a sweetheart.

4465
02:35:37,700 --> 02:35:41,180
I don't see where this idea that they're

4466
02:35:41,180 --> 02:35:42,960
all, this sounds like the Trump thing.

4467
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:45,120
Trump, anti-democratic again, I mean, you're not

4468
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:46,960
gonna vote again kind of thing.

4469
02:35:47,020 --> 02:35:47,880
It's outrageous.

4470
02:35:48,140 --> 02:35:50,840
And the Germans politicians are out of control.

4471
02:35:50,840 --> 02:35:52,860
They're controlled by the globalists.

4472
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:54,480
They're shot.

4473
02:35:55,220 --> 02:35:57,120
But I mean, well, the Germans are just

4474
02:35:57,120 --> 02:35:57,960
too polite.

4475
02:35:58,080 --> 02:35:59,000
They're too kind.

4476
02:35:59,820 --> 02:36:02,060
You know, like, yeah, we can't really revolt.

4477
02:36:02,140 --> 02:36:03,100
I don't know what it is.

4478
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:04,520
The same with the Dutch, by the way,

4479
02:36:04,540 --> 02:36:05,400
they're not gonna revolt.

4480
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:08,080
They actually voted in the guy they wanted

4481
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:09,180
and like, oh, what's happening?

4482
02:36:09,300 --> 02:36:10,520
Oh, not much, not much change.

4483
02:36:10,540 --> 02:36:12,140
And then they look across the ocean, look

4484
02:36:12,140 --> 02:36:12,600
at us.

4485
02:36:13,420 --> 02:36:15,640
They're like, wow, if only we could be

4486
02:36:15,640 --> 02:36:16,220
like that.

4487
02:36:19,390 --> 02:36:20,830
And- Yeah, it's a mystery to me.

4488
02:36:20,830 --> 02:36:23,390
I guess the same goes for the UK.

4489
02:36:24,130 --> 02:36:24,890
Same, you know.

4490
02:36:25,210 --> 02:36:25,730
UK's worse.

4491
02:36:25,910 --> 02:36:26,390
What was that?

4492
02:36:26,430 --> 02:36:27,990
What was I reading about the UK?

4493
02:36:28,310 --> 02:36:28,710
Let me see.

4494
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:31,130
It was- They're not donating anymore either.

4495
02:36:31,290 --> 02:36:37,950
No, well, Tony Blair is now, it was

4496
02:36:37,950 --> 02:36:39,290
a big article in the Times.

4497
02:36:39,490 --> 02:36:42,870
Tony Blair, colon, bring in digital IDs to

4498
02:36:42,870 --> 02:36:44,230
get tough on populism.

4499
02:36:45,290 --> 02:36:46,190
How about that?

4500
02:36:46,710 --> 02:36:48,530
What do you wanna get tough on populism

4501
02:36:48,530 --> 02:36:48,930
for?

4502
02:36:49,450 --> 02:36:51,650
Tony Blair began the problem.

4503
02:36:51,910 --> 02:36:54,450
The former labor prime minister who backs identity

4504
02:36:54,450 --> 02:36:57,770
technology systems and facial recognition believes the public

4505
02:36:57,770 --> 02:37:01,310
will gladly sacrifice privacy for efficiency.

4506
02:37:03,150 --> 02:37:05,310
And- Yeah, you know what?

4507
02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:06,730
He may be right.

4508
02:37:07,730 --> 02:37:08,910
He may be right.

4509
02:37:09,670 --> 02:37:12,370
What efficiency are we talking about here that

4510
02:37:12,370 --> 02:37:13,770
everyone wants to sacrifice for?

4511
02:37:14,090 --> 02:37:16,590
Specifically, what efficiency?

4512
02:37:16,590 --> 02:37:17,450
The NHS?

4513
02:37:19,060 --> 02:37:22,310
What's going on in England that's trending toward

4514
02:37:22,310 --> 02:37:24,930
efficiency that's going to be helped along by

4515
02:37:24,930 --> 02:37:25,750
digital ID?

4516
02:37:26,410 --> 02:37:27,530
Just name one thing.

4517
02:37:27,630 --> 02:37:30,990
He suggests only, and only by fully harnessing

4518
02:37:30,990 --> 02:37:34,430
the power of artificial intelligence can ministers deliver

4519
02:37:34,430 --> 02:37:37,570
the improvements to public services that voters want

4520
02:37:37,570 --> 02:37:41,030
while also achieving the savings the treasury needs.

4521
02:37:41,130 --> 02:37:44,070
Quote, you've got to reorder the government around

4522
02:37:44,070 --> 02:37:45,550
this technology revolution.

4523
02:37:46,150 --> 02:37:47,530
You should be able- It costs more

4524
02:37:47,530 --> 02:37:48,530
money than it's worth.

4525
02:37:48,890 --> 02:37:50,030
Who is he kidding?

4526
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:51,930
Everyone do the numbers on this stuff.

4527
02:37:53,350 --> 02:37:54,690
Oh, it's coming everywhere.

4528
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:56,130
Denver is already lost.

4529
02:37:56,350 --> 02:37:58,890
For the vast majority of doctors, work doesn't

4530
02:37:58,890 --> 02:38:00,630
stop once they leave the office.

4531
02:38:01,070 --> 02:38:02,890
Daniel Korch is a physician and he's also

4532
02:38:02,890 --> 02:38:05,510
the Associate Chief Medical Information Officer at Denver

4533
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:05,790
Health.

4534
02:38:06,010 --> 02:38:07,990
He's bothered by how many doctors are taking

4535
02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:10,410
their work home with them, something called pajama

4536
02:38:10,410 --> 02:38:10,630
time.

4537
02:38:10,690 --> 02:38:12,050
If you can imagine your doctor- Pajama

4538
02:38:12,050 --> 02:38:12,150
time!

4539
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:14,390
After you see them going home, getting in

4540
02:38:14,390 --> 02:38:16,330
their pajamas, getting out their laptop, and just

4541
02:38:16,330 --> 02:38:17,110
typing away.

4542
02:38:17,550 --> 02:38:18,890
That's what so many of our providers have

4543
02:38:18,890 --> 02:38:19,130
done.

4544
02:38:19,310 --> 02:38:22,110
And we saw a significant reduction in pajama

4545
02:38:22,110 --> 02:38:23,970
time with providers who are using NABLA.

4546
02:38:24,190 --> 02:38:26,750
NABLA is the AI software company Denver Health

4547
02:38:26,750 --> 02:38:28,730
hired to help doctors take notes.

4548
02:38:28,990 --> 02:38:29,170
What?

4549
02:38:29,330 --> 02:38:29,430
Wait.

4550
02:38:29,430 --> 02:38:31,010
According to them, for every one hour-

4551
02:38:31,010 --> 02:38:31,270
What?

4552
02:38:31,970 --> 02:38:33,610
NAB- Nambla?

4553
02:38:33,750 --> 02:38:37,830
No, not, it's NABLA, not Nambla, NABLA.

4554
02:38:38,470 --> 02:38:39,270
I know what you're thinking.

4555
02:38:39,390 --> 02:38:39,590
No.

4556
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:40,650
So we're using NABLA.

4557
02:38:40,790 --> 02:38:43,430
NABLA is the AI software company Denver Health

4558
02:38:43,430 --> 02:38:45,410
hired to help doctors take notes.

4559
02:38:45,670 --> 02:38:47,830
According to them, for every one hour seeing

4560
02:38:47,830 --> 02:38:51,030
patients, doctors typically spend two hours inputting notes

4561
02:38:51,030 --> 02:38:52,090
and insurance information.

4562
02:38:52,290 --> 02:38:53,090
Here's how it works.

4563
02:38:53,230 --> 02:38:54,990
Doctors meet with their patient and start the

4564
02:38:54,990 --> 02:38:55,950
program on their phone.

4565
02:38:56,190 --> 02:38:58,990
It listens, transcribes the audio, and organizes it

4566
02:38:58,990 --> 02:39:01,170
into a format that doctors are familiar with.

4567
02:39:01,330 --> 02:39:03,990
Later, it deletes the audio recording and transcription

4568
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:05,970
so that the only thing that remains is

4569
02:39:05,970 --> 02:39:09,030
the summary, not their conversation, helping to protect

4570
02:39:09,030 --> 02:39:10,250
patient confidentiality.

4571
02:39:10,390 --> 02:39:10,490
Wow.

4572
02:39:10,490 --> 02:39:12,690
At the end of the encounter, it automatically

4573
02:39:12,690 --> 02:39:16,050
updates the patient record, write the clinical documentation,

4574
02:39:16,470 --> 02:39:19,130
take care of the claims, of the after

4575
02:39:19,130 --> 02:39:20,650
-visit summary for the patients.

4576
02:39:20,810 --> 02:39:23,190
Denver Health expected to save their doctors' time

4577
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:24,130
with this new technology.

4578
02:39:24,470 --> 02:39:26,210
What they didn't see coming was how it

4579
02:39:26,210 --> 02:39:27,870
improved doctor-patient interactions.

4580
02:39:28,110 --> 02:39:30,510
They had better eye contact, they had better

4581
02:39:30,510 --> 02:39:33,230
emotional availability because they weren't typing.

4582
02:39:33,590 --> 02:39:34,830
And that's what's so exciting about it.

4583
02:39:35,050 --> 02:39:37,290
Our patients benefited from it, our providers benefited

4584
02:39:37,290 --> 02:39:37,810
from it.

4585
02:39:37,910 --> 02:39:40,130
More than 40% of doctors at Denver

4586
02:39:40,130 --> 02:39:42,410
Health have decided to use Nobla, less than

4587
02:39:42,410 --> 02:39:44,210
two months after its introduction.

4588
02:39:44,390 --> 02:39:45,850
I've never been part of an IT project

4589
02:39:45,850 --> 02:39:47,790
where people spontaneously gave me hugs.

4590
02:39:48,110 --> 02:39:48,950
They've given me hugs.

4591
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:51,410
They've given me boxes of chocolate because they

4592
02:39:51,410 --> 02:39:53,110
really find it has improved their life.

4593
02:39:53,270 --> 02:39:54,110
Helping out doctors.

4594
02:39:54,410 --> 02:39:56,030
It makes it much easier for us to

4595
02:39:56,030 --> 02:39:58,250
have a very good team, very motivated, very

4596
02:39:58,250 --> 02:39:58,570
loyal.

4597
02:39:58,690 --> 02:40:00,570
So they can have more time to help

4598
02:40:00,570 --> 02:40:01,290
their patients.

4599
02:40:02,270 --> 02:40:02,710
Yeah.

4600
02:40:03,430 --> 02:40:04,910
Wow, what a crock.

4601
02:40:05,030 --> 02:40:07,010
Yeah, but it's not even, it's not artificial

4602
02:40:07,010 --> 02:40:09,850
intelligence, it's transcription, it's speech recognition.

4603
02:40:09,850 --> 02:40:11,590
We've been working on that since Dragon.

4604
02:40:12,150 --> 02:40:13,570
And it still doesn't work well.

4605
02:40:14,070 --> 02:40:15,430
Computer, period.

4606
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:17,690
Remember Dragon?

4607
02:40:17,690 --> 02:40:18,030
Yeah, exactly.

4608
02:40:18,210 --> 02:40:19,770
Remember the Dragon's- Exclamation mark.

4609
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:22,410
And you look at enough TikTok videos, you

4610
02:40:22,410 --> 02:40:25,010
see how many, they have the automatic titles

4611
02:40:25,010 --> 02:40:25,390
underneath.

4612
02:40:26,170 --> 02:40:27,210
So many mistakes.

4613
02:40:27,910 --> 02:40:29,330
90% right.

4614
02:40:29,890 --> 02:40:30,050
Yeah.

4615
02:40:30,410 --> 02:40:33,090
A 10% error rate- And there

4616
02:40:33,090 --> 02:40:33,370
you go.

4617
02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:34,670
Is non-trivial.

4618
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:35,530
There you go.

4619
02:40:35,610 --> 02:40:37,910
That's exactly the problem with all of the

4620
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:40,010
so-called artificial intelligence.

4621
02:40:40,210 --> 02:40:41,810
I do have a few clips from on

4622
02:40:41,810 --> 02:40:46,070
the media, from NPR, with a fellow artificial

4623
02:40:46,070 --> 02:40:48,930
intelligence denier, like myself.

4624
02:40:49,050 --> 02:40:50,170
This is the British guy.

4625
02:40:51,370 --> 02:40:52,490
Oh yeah, this guy's good.

4626
02:40:52,890 --> 02:40:53,770
Zintas or something.

4627
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:54,590
He's good, he's good.

4628
02:40:54,670 --> 02:40:56,830
These models were always kind of going to

4629
02:40:56,830 --> 02:40:58,670
peter out because they'd run out of training

4630
02:40:58,670 --> 02:41:01,170
data, but also there's only so much you

4631
02:41:01,170 --> 02:41:03,350
can do with a probabilistic model.

4632
02:41:03,570 --> 02:41:05,470
They don't have thoughts.

4633
02:41:05,850 --> 02:41:06,890
They are probabilistic.

4634
02:41:06,890 --> 02:41:08,690
They guess the next thing coming and they're

4635
02:41:08,690 --> 02:41:09,470
pretty good at it.

4636
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:13,250
But pretty good is actually nowhere near enough.

4637
02:41:13,630 --> 02:41:15,570
And when you think of what makes a

4638
02:41:15,570 --> 02:41:18,630
software boom, a software boom is usually based

4639
02:41:18,630 --> 02:41:23,330
on mass consumer adoption and mass enterprise level

4640
02:41:23,330 --> 02:41:23,830
adoption.

4641
02:41:24,290 --> 02:41:26,870
Now the enterprise referring to big companies of

4642
02:41:26,870 --> 02:41:29,730
like 10,000, 50,000, 100,000 people,

4643
02:41:29,810 --> 02:41:30,930
but down to like a thousand.

4644
02:41:31,190 --> 02:41:35,410
Nevertheless, financial services, healthcare, all of these industries,

4645
02:41:35,410 --> 02:41:38,550
they have very low tolerance for mistakes.

4646
02:41:39,050 --> 02:41:41,110
And if you make a mistake with your

4647
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:42,850
AI, well, I'm not sure if you remember

4648
02:41:42,850 --> 02:41:44,090
what happened with Knight Capital.

4649
02:41:44,450 --> 02:41:45,750
That was with an algorithm.

4650
02:41:45,930 --> 02:41:47,350
They lost hundreds of millions of dollars and

4651
02:41:47,350 --> 02:41:49,310
destroyed themselves because of one little mistake.

4652
02:41:49,710 --> 02:41:52,210
We don't even know how these things fully

4653
02:41:52,210 --> 02:41:54,510
function, how they make their decisions, but we

4654
02:41:54,510 --> 02:41:57,610
do know they make mistakes because they don't

4655
02:41:57,610 --> 02:41:59,030
know anything.

4656
02:41:59,150 --> 02:42:00,890
They do not have knowledge.

4657
02:42:01,270 --> 02:42:03,330
They are not conscious, I get it.

4658
02:42:03,330 --> 02:42:05,290
No, no, no, no, not just not conscious.

4659
02:42:05,690 --> 02:42:07,310
They don't know anything.

4660
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:09,270
ChatGPT does not know.

4661
02:42:09,530 --> 02:42:10,870
Even if you say, give me a list

4662
02:42:10,870 --> 02:42:12,870
of every American states and it gets it

4663
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:13,810
right every time.

4664
02:42:13,970 --> 02:42:15,290
It's just pattern recognition.

4665
02:42:15,570 --> 02:42:17,450
Yes, it is effectively saying what is the

4666
02:42:17,450 --> 02:42:19,130
most likely answer to this?

4667
02:42:19,350 --> 02:42:20,810
It doesn't know what a state is.

4668
02:42:20,890 --> 02:42:22,270
It doesn't know what America is.

4669
02:42:22,290 --> 02:42:23,350
It doesn't know anything.

4670
02:42:23,510 --> 02:42:28,230
It is just remarkably accurate probability, but remarkably

4671
02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:31,430
accurate is nowhere near as accurate as we

4672
02:42:31,430 --> 02:42:32,350
would need it to be.

4673
02:42:32,350 --> 02:42:34,490
And as a result, there's only so much

4674
02:42:34,490 --> 02:42:35,610
they could have done with it.

4675
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:37,450
Yes, or as he says.

4676
02:42:37,610 --> 02:42:38,190
Yeah, go ahead.

4677
02:42:38,530 --> 02:42:39,690
That guy's better than you.

4678
02:42:40,630 --> 02:42:43,130
The way Silicon Valley has classically worked is

4679
02:42:43,130 --> 02:42:44,750
you give a bunch of money to some

4680
02:42:44,750 --> 02:42:46,670
smart people and then money comes out the

4681
02:42:46,670 --> 02:42:46,950
end.

4682
02:42:47,610 --> 02:42:49,590
In the case of previous hype cycles that

4683
02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:52,130
work like cloud computing and smartphones, there were

4684
02:42:52,130 --> 02:42:53,870
very obvious places to go.

4685
02:42:53,990 --> 02:42:56,770
Jim Covello over at Goldman Sachs famously said

4686
02:42:56,770 --> 02:42:59,250
one of the responses to Generative AI was

4687
02:42:59,250 --> 02:43:00,410
to say, well, no one believed in the

4688
02:43:00,410 --> 02:43:01,530
smartphone, wrong.

4689
02:43:01,530 --> 02:43:03,930
There were thousands of presentations that led fairly

4690
02:43:03,930 --> 02:43:04,870
precisely to that.

4691
02:43:05,470 --> 02:43:07,350
So with the AI hype, it was a

4692
02:43:07,350 --> 02:43:08,270
big media storm.

4693
02:43:08,430 --> 02:43:11,530
And suddenly Microsoft's entire decision-making behind this

4694
02:43:11,530 --> 02:43:13,390
was they saw ChatGPT and went, God damn,

4695
02:43:13,450 --> 02:43:14,230
we need that in Bing.

4696
02:43:14,370 --> 02:43:15,770
Buy every GPU you can find.

4697
02:43:16,210 --> 02:43:17,610
And I'm telling the truth.

4698
02:43:17,730 --> 02:43:19,690
It is insane that multi-trillion dollar market

4699
02:43:19,690 --> 02:43:20,930
cap companies work like this.

4700
02:43:21,430 --> 02:43:23,370
Nevertheless, all of these companies, they went, well,

4701
02:43:23,370 --> 02:43:24,510
this is the next big thing.

4702
02:43:24,890 --> 02:43:26,030
Let's throw a bunch of money at it.

4703
02:43:26,230 --> 02:43:27,210
That's worked before.

4704
02:43:27,450 --> 02:43:31,050
Buying more, doing more, growing everything always works.

4705
02:43:31,050 --> 02:43:33,390
Silicon Valley over the years has leaned towards

4706
02:43:33,390 --> 02:43:34,430
just growth ideas.

4707
02:43:34,790 --> 02:43:35,270
What will grow?

4708
02:43:35,370 --> 02:43:36,430
What can we sell more of?

4709
02:43:36,910 --> 02:43:38,910
Except they've chased out all the real innovators.

4710
02:43:39,650 --> 02:43:41,890
And then of course he has some actual

4711
02:43:41,890 --> 02:43:42,890
data on the money.

4712
02:43:43,030 --> 02:43:44,470
I don't know if it's true, but.

4713
02:43:44,610 --> 02:43:46,690
They chased out all the real innovators is

4714
02:43:46,690 --> 02:43:48,750
the interesting comment there at the very end.

4715
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:49,270
It's true.

4716
02:43:49,810 --> 02:43:50,490
Where did they go?

4717
02:43:50,570 --> 02:43:52,670
They went on to create podcasting and make

4718
02:43:52,670 --> 02:43:53,170
no money.

4719
02:43:56,090 --> 02:43:58,070
I know, it's unfair.

4720
02:43:58,070 --> 02:44:02,350
Okay, generative AI is incredibly unprofitable.

4721
02:44:02,830 --> 02:44:04,910
One dollar earned for every two and a

4722
02:44:04,910 --> 02:44:05,910
quarter spent?

4723
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:06,910
Something like that?

4724
02:44:07,010 --> 02:44:08,870
Yeah, two bucks 35 from my last estimates.

4725
02:44:09,310 --> 02:44:11,670
Open AI's board last year said they needed

4726
02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:14,050
even more capital than they had imagined.

4727
02:44:14,550 --> 02:44:17,930
And the CEO, Sam Altman, recently said that

4728
02:44:17,930 --> 02:44:21,270
they're losing money on their plan to make

4729
02:44:21,270 --> 02:44:25,410
money, which is the chat GPT pro plan.

4730
02:44:25,530 --> 02:44:26,090
What is that?

4731
02:44:26,090 --> 02:44:28,910
So this is where the funny stuff happens.

4732
02:44:29,630 --> 02:44:32,270
Open AI's premium subscriptions make up about, it's

4733
02:44:32,270 --> 02:44:33,870
like 73% of their revenue.

4734
02:44:34,430 --> 02:44:36,190
The majority of their revenue does not come

4735
02:44:36,190 --> 02:44:38,630
from people actually using their models to do

4736
02:44:38,630 --> 02:44:40,490
stuff, which should tell you everything.

4737
02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:42,530
Because if most of their money doesn't come

4738
02:44:42,530 --> 02:44:45,890
from people using their very useful, allegedly, models,

4739
02:44:46,450 --> 02:44:48,450
well that means that they're either not charging

4740
02:44:48,450 --> 02:44:49,950
enough or they're not that useful.

4741
02:44:50,230 --> 02:44:52,430
I think Altman said he wasn't charging enough.

4742
02:44:52,590 --> 02:44:53,770
He isn't charging enough.

4743
02:44:53,770 --> 02:44:57,370
But their premium subscriptions have limits to the

4744
02:44:57,370 --> 02:44:58,710
amount that you can use them.

4745
02:44:59,050 --> 02:45:02,050
Well, their $200 a month chat GPT plus

4746
02:45:02,050 --> 02:45:04,590
subscription allows you to use their models as

4747
02:45:04,590 --> 02:45:06,830
much as you'd like, and they're still losing

4748
02:45:06,830 --> 02:45:07,550
money on them.

4749
02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:09,790
And the funny thing is the biggest selling

4750
02:45:09,790 --> 02:45:13,330
point is their reasoning models, O1 and O3.

4751
02:45:13,630 --> 02:45:15,690
O3, by the way, is their new thing

4752
02:45:15,690 --> 02:45:17,910
that is just throwing even more compute at

4753
02:45:17,910 --> 02:45:18,350
the problem.

4754
02:45:18,490 --> 02:45:20,770
It's yet to prove itself to actually be

4755
02:45:20,770 --> 02:45:23,830
any different other than just slightly better at

4756
02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:26,650
the benchmarks and also costing $1,000 for

4757
02:45:26,650 --> 02:45:27,110
10 minutes.

4758
02:45:27,350 --> 02:45:27,850
It's insane.

4759
02:45:28,330 --> 02:45:30,070
But the reason they're losing that is because

4760
02:45:30,070 --> 02:45:32,170
the way they've built their models is incredibly

4761
02:45:32,170 --> 02:45:32,690
inefficient.

4762
02:45:33,330 --> 02:45:35,290
And now that DeepSeek's come along, it's not

4763
02:45:35,290 --> 02:45:37,750
really obvious why anyone would pay for chat

4764
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:39,410
GPT plus at all.

4765
02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:41,730
But the fact that they can't make money

4766
02:45:41,730 --> 02:45:45,090
on a 200 buck a month subscription, that's

4767
02:45:45,090 --> 02:45:46,290
the kind of thing that you should get

4768
02:45:46,290 --> 02:45:47,430
fired from a company for.

4769
02:45:47,510 --> 02:45:49,010
They should boot you out the door.

4770
02:45:49,610 --> 02:45:50,730
He's my new friend.

4771
02:45:51,430 --> 02:45:52,230
Last clip.

4772
02:45:52,430 --> 02:45:52,930
I guess so.

4773
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:54,190
Last clip, this is rather...

4774
02:45:54,190 --> 02:45:55,510
I played this out of order, but-

4775
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:56,470
Who is this guy again?

4776
02:45:57,810 --> 02:45:59,110
Zintas, hold on.

4777
02:46:00,590 --> 02:46:07,690
His name is Zitron, Ed Zitron.

4778
02:46:07,730 --> 02:46:08,430
You ever hear of him?

4779
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:09,570
Ed Zitron?

4780
02:46:09,690 --> 02:46:11,290
No, it doesn't ring a bell, but-

4781
02:46:11,290 --> 02:46:13,810
Well, here he makes an assertion which only

4782
02:46:13,810 --> 02:46:14,890
you could really evaluate.

4783
02:46:14,890 --> 02:46:19,210
You said that AI in this country was

4784
02:46:19,210 --> 02:46:22,130
just throwing a lot of money at the

4785
02:46:22,130 --> 02:46:26,950
wall, seeing if some new idea would actually

4786
02:46:26,950 --> 02:46:27,750
emerge?

4787
02:46:28,890 --> 02:46:32,870
Are we talking about agents that can actually

4788
02:46:32,870 --> 02:46:34,330
do things for you?

4789
02:46:35,030 --> 02:46:37,370
Stop at agents for, this is the new

4790
02:46:37,370 --> 02:46:37,850
twist.

4791
02:46:38,370 --> 02:46:42,710
This is what Salesforce, oh, it's agentic AI,

4792
02:46:43,170 --> 02:46:43,730
it's agents.

4793
02:46:44,150 --> 02:46:44,850
You know what that is?

4794
02:46:44,930 --> 02:46:46,390
It's a cron job, okay?

4795
02:46:46,630 --> 02:46:48,830
It's a cron job that does something every

4796
02:46:48,830 --> 02:46:49,610
couple of minutes.

4797
02:46:50,170 --> 02:46:50,930
Cron job.

4798
02:46:51,070 --> 02:46:52,310
You know what a cron job is, don't

4799
02:46:52,310 --> 02:46:52,490
you?

4800
02:46:53,090 --> 02:46:54,690
Is it different than a con job?

4801
02:46:55,390 --> 02:46:56,070
Not far.

4802
02:46:56,450 --> 02:46:57,930
C-R-O-N, a cron job.

4803
02:46:58,010 --> 02:46:59,290
That's in a Linux system.

4804
02:46:59,730 --> 02:47:01,210
You can set up a cron job to

4805
02:47:01,210 --> 02:47:02,930
run every minute, every five minutes.

4806
02:47:03,210 --> 02:47:04,190
Oh, okay, yeah.

4807
02:47:04,250 --> 02:47:05,050
It's a cron job.

4808
02:47:05,230 --> 02:47:06,050
It's a cron job, yeah.

4809
02:47:06,110 --> 02:47:06,770
Based on the clock.

4810
02:47:06,850 --> 02:47:07,610
Yeah, it's a cron job.

4811
02:47:07,770 --> 02:47:09,930
In a predictable way, are we talking about

4812
02:47:09,930 --> 02:47:10,310
God?

4813
02:47:10,430 --> 02:47:12,450
What is the new idea that they were

4814
02:47:12,450 --> 02:47:17,070
hoping would emerge from throwing billions at this

4815
02:47:17,070 --> 02:47:17,630
project?

4816
02:47:18,530 --> 02:47:21,050
So Silicon Valley has not really had a

4817
02:47:21,050 --> 02:47:21,750
full depression.

4818
02:47:22,630 --> 02:47:24,190
We may think the dot-com bubble was

4819
02:47:24,190 --> 02:47:25,990
bad, but the dot-com bubble was they

4820
02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:28,850
discovered e-commerce and then ran it in

4821
02:47:28,850 --> 02:47:29,790
the worst way possible.

4822
02:47:30,530 --> 02:47:33,870
This is so different because if this had

4823
02:47:33,870 --> 02:47:35,910
not had the hype cycle it had, we

4824
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:37,690
probably would have ended up with an American

4825
02:47:37,690 --> 02:47:38,930
deep-seek in five years.

4826
02:47:39,350 --> 02:47:41,350
What do you think about the concept that

4827
02:47:41,350 --> 02:47:43,050
Silicon Valley's never really had a depression?

4828
02:47:43,350 --> 02:47:44,010
That's not true.

4829
02:47:44,530 --> 02:47:47,050
They had one before the dot-com collapse,

4830
02:47:47,090 --> 02:47:47,850
I think it was 86.

4831
02:47:49,010 --> 02:47:51,150
There was a huge downturn that was just

4832
02:47:51,150 --> 02:47:51,770
outrageous.

4833
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:55,530
And it was that that was propagated by

4834
02:47:55,530 --> 02:47:58,770
the collapse of the video game company that

4835
02:47:58,770 --> 02:48:00,410
was, they were making Atari games, this is

4836
02:48:00,410 --> 02:48:02,050
the Atari era, and they came out with

4837
02:48:02,050 --> 02:48:02,490
this product.

4838
02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:05,730
This one game company failed its IPO and

4839
02:48:05,730 --> 02:48:07,290
the whole economy of it crashed.

4840
02:48:07,290 --> 02:48:09,930
Yeah, I do remember that.

4841
02:48:09,950 --> 02:48:10,450
It was a huge crash.

4842
02:48:10,450 --> 02:48:11,550
I think it was as big as the

4843
02:48:11,550 --> 02:48:12,190
dot-com crash.

4844
02:48:12,310 --> 02:48:14,850
The dot-com bubble was a little different

4845
02:48:14,850 --> 02:48:17,210
because it came in with Y2K and then

4846
02:48:17,210 --> 02:48:20,030
we smashed, then the World Trade Centers, it

4847
02:48:20,030 --> 02:48:21,750
was all combined to make a real mess.

4848
02:48:22,270 --> 02:48:24,410
Got a note from one of our teachers,

4849
02:48:25,150 --> 02:48:26,910
and she said, Adam, thank you for being

4850
02:48:26,910 --> 02:48:27,570
pro-human.

4851
02:48:28,630 --> 02:48:29,790
Many adults I know.

4852
02:48:30,250 --> 02:48:31,730
I am very pro-human.

4853
02:48:32,490 --> 02:48:33,770
Kill all humans.

4854
02:48:35,090 --> 02:48:37,370
I am so pro-human, it's crazy.

4855
02:48:38,210 --> 02:48:41,310
Many adults I know use chat GPT to

4856
02:48:41,310 --> 02:48:42,830
help them with basic decisions.

4857
02:48:43,650 --> 02:48:45,670
Screen-induced adult retardation.

4858
02:48:46,450 --> 02:48:48,870
I'm in education and the board is forcing

4859
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:51,910
us to use AI and screens with toddlers.

4860
02:48:52,730 --> 02:48:55,290
All the videos are made with AI slop,

4861
02:48:55,730 --> 02:48:58,790
highly addictive flashing of lights and droning house

4862
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:59,130
beats.

4863
02:48:59,410 --> 02:49:01,370
It is making the kids retarded.

4864
02:49:01,850 --> 02:49:02,910
This must end.

4865
02:49:03,610 --> 02:49:05,370
And I asked her for some samples, which

4866
02:49:05,370 --> 02:49:06,910
I have not yet received, but I can't

4867
02:49:06,910 --> 02:49:07,750
wait to see that.

4868
02:49:08,430 --> 02:49:10,270
And then- I'll bet she's right.

4869
02:49:10,430 --> 02:49:11,390
Of course she's right.

4870
02:49:11,950 --> 02:49:13,850
And then back to the UK, just staying

4871
02:49:13,850 --> 02:49:15,910
with the AI for a second, from the

4872
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:19,050
BBC, four new laws will tackle the threat

4873
02:49:19,050 --> 02:49:22,650
of child sexual abuse images generated by artificial

4874
02:49:22,650 --> 02:49:23,510
intelligence.

4875
02:49:24,010 --> 02:49:25,990
The Home Office says the UK will be

4876
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:27,490
the first country in the world to make

4877
02:49:27,490 --> 02:49:30,870
it illegal to possess, create, or distribute AI

4878
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:35,390
tools designed to create child sexual abuse material

4879
02:49:35,390 --> 02:49:37,390
with a punishment of up to five years

4880
02:49:37,390 --> 02:49:38,010
in prison.

4881
02:49:39,290 --> 02:49:40,230
This is in Canada?

4882
02:49:40,730 --> 02:49:41,210
The UK.

4883
02:49:41,810 --> 02:49:43,710
Oh, UK, what am I thinking?

4884
02:49:43,930 --> 02:49:46,710
I mean, that's what these tools do.

4885
02:49:46,810 --> 02:49:47,990
How are you going to stop that?

4886
02:49:50,200 --> 02:49:52,120
I don't have no idea what they're thinking.

4887
02:49:53,140 --> 02:49:55,380
Well, it gets worse if we listen to

4888
02:49:55,380 --> 02:49:57,640
a clip from the latest interview of Jordan

4889
02:49:57,640 --> 02:50:01,800
Peterson with Marc Andreessen, who has been hitting

4890
02:50:01,800 --> 02:50:03,560
the Vyvanse, if you know what I mean.

4891
02:50:03,960 --> 02:50:07,440
He makes an assertion that is pretty wild.

4892
02:50:07,720 --> 02:50:10,220
If the large language model's value is in

4893
02:50:10,220 --> 02:50:12,740
their wisdom and that wisdom is derived from

4894
02:50:12,740 --> 02:50:15,820
their understanding of the deep pattern of correlations

4895
02:50:15,820 --> 02:50:19,060
between ideas, which is like a major source

4896
02:50:19,060 --> 02:50:23,860
of wisdom, genuinely speaking, why pervert that with

4897
02:50:23,860 --> 02:50:26,640
an overlay of shallow ideology?

4898
02:50:27,020 --> 02:50:29,300
And why is the ideology in the direction

4899
02:50:29,300 --> 02:50:29,960
that it is?

4900
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:32,660
And then how is that gerrymandering conducted?

4901
02:50:32,660 --> 02:50:34,040
Yes, let me start with the how.

4902
02:50:34,260 --> 02:50:36,060
So the how is a technique, there's an

4903
02:50:36,060 --> 02:50:37,160
acronym for it.

4904
02:50:37,300 --> 02:50:40,800
It's called reinforcement learning by human feedback.

4905
02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:43,360
And so in the field, it's called RLHF.

4906
02:50:43,780 --> 02:50:47,020
And RLHF is basically a key step for

4907
02:50:47,020 --> 02:50:49,280
making an AI that works and interacts with

4908
02:50:49,280 --> 02:50:51,140
humans, which is you take a raw model,

4909
02:50:51,180 --> 02:50:52,920
which is sort of feral and doesn't quite

4910
02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:54,040
know how to orient to people.

4911
02:50:54,420 --> 02:50:56,120
And then you put it in a training

4912
02:50:56,120 --> 02:50:57,960
loop with some set of human beings who

4913
02:50:57,960 --> 02:50:59,420
effectively socialize it.

4914
02:51:00,020 --> 02:51:03,100
And so reinforcement learning for human feedback, the

4915
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:04,840
key there is human feedback, right?

4916
02:51:04,880 --> 02:51:06,740
You put it in dialogue with human beings

4917
02:51:06,740 --> 02:51:08,140
and you have the human beings do something

4918
02:51:08,140 --> 02:51:09,880
very analogous to teaching a child, right?

4919
02:51:09,900 --> 02:51:10,680
Here's how you respond.

4920
02:51:10,840 --> 02:51:11,560
Here's how you're polite.

4921
02:51:11,740 --> 02:51:13,340
Here's the things you can and can't say.

4922
02:51:13,400 --> 02:51:14,220
Here's how to word things.

4923
02:51:14,880 --> 02:51:16,340
Here's how to be curious.

4924
02:51:17,180 --> 02:51:19,600
All the behaviors that you presumably want to

4925
02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:21,180
see from something you're interacting with that is

4926
02:51:21,180 --> 02:51:22,900
sort of human, sort of a human proxy

4927
02:51:22,900 --> 02:51:24,020
kind of form of behavior.

4928
02:51:25,160 --> 02:51:27,120
That is a 100% human enterprise.

4929
02:51:27,120 --> 02:51:29,680
You have to decide what the rules are

4930
02:51:29,680 --> 02:51:30,740
for the people who are going to be

4931
02:51:30,740 --> 02:51:31,460
doing that work.

4932
02:51:31,600 --> 02:51:32,160
They're all people.

4933
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:35,920
And then you have to hire into those

4934
02:51:35,920 --> 02:51:36,380
jobs.

4935
02:51:37,340 --> 02:51:39,440
The people going into those jobs are in

4936
02:51:39,440 --> 02:51:40,720
many cases, the same people.

4937
02:51:40,900 --> 02:51:41,620
This will horrify you.

4938
02:51:41,720 --> 02:51:42,840
They're the same people who were in the

4939
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:44,420
trust and safety groups at the social media

4940
02:51:44,420 --> 02:51:45,400
companies five years ago.

4941
02:51:45,860 --> 02:51:46,340
Oh, good.

4942
02:51:46,480 --> 02:51:47,440
Oh, that's great.

4943
02:51:47,560 --> 02:51:48,640
Oh, that's wonderful.

4944
02:51:49,080 --> 02:51:49,560
Yeah, yeah.

4945
02:51:49,940 --> 02:51:52,240
I couldn't imagine a worse outcome than that.

4946
02:51:52,480 --> 02:51:54,080
Because they're, so all the people that, you

4947
02:51:54,080 --> 02:51:55,440
know, Elon cut out of the trust and

4948
02:51:55,440 --> 02:51:56,780
safety group at Twitter when he bought it,

4949
02:51:56,840 --> 02:51:58,660
many of them have migrated into these trust

4950
02:51:58,660 --> 02:52:01,520
and safety groups at these AI companies.

4951
02:52:01,640 --> 02:52:03,500
And they're now setting these policies and doing

4952
02:52:03,500 --> 02:52:04,240
this training.

4953
02:52:04,860 --> 02:52:05,440
There you go.

4954
02:52:05,800 --> 02:52:08,400
So that's your chat GPT right there.

4955
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:10,000
That's interesting.

4956
02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:11,540
Yeah, it makes sense.

4957
02:52:11,540 --> 02:52:12,020
I don't know if it's true.

4958
02:52:12,100 --> 02:52:12,780
It makes sense.

4959
02:52:12,860 --> 02:52:13,300
I don't know if it's true.

4960
02:52:13,300 --> 02:52:14,140
It does make sense though.

4961
02:52:14,140 --> 02:52:15,200
I don't know if it's true, but.

4962
02:52:16,640 --> 02:52:17,720
Lord help us.

4963
02:52:20,280 --> 02:52:21,820
Get rid of this scourge.

4964
02:52:22,500 --> 02:52:22,940
All of it.

4965
02:52:23,180 --> 02:52:24,800
We can't be dead soon enough.

4966
02:52:24,980 --> 02:52:25,660
It's not happening anytime soon.

4967
02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:27,220
Can't be dead soon enough.

4968
02:52:28,000 --> 02:52:28,520
Please.

4969
02:52:30,260 --> 02:52:32,220
All right, I'm spent.

4970
02:52:32,420 --> 02:52:34,120
I want to play the Kennedy Saunders little

4971
02:52:34,120 --> 02:52:35,140
docket for it.

4972
02:52:35,180 --> 02:52:36,180
Sure, sure, sure, sure.

4973
02:52:36,540 --> 02:52:38,840
This is, Kennedy was at another day of

4974
02:52:38,840 --> 02:52:40,680
hearings after our last show, which was on

4975
02:52:40,680 --> 02:52:41,020
Thursday.

4976
02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:43,880
He had a set of hearings on Friday

4977
02:52:43,880 --> 02:52:47,720
with the Justice Judicial Committee, Senate.

4978
02:52:48,600 --> 02:52:50,760
And Bernie Sanders was there.

4979
02:52:51,280 --> 02:52:53,100
And they went back and forth.

4980
02:52:53,280 --> 02:52:57,100
And we already know that Elizabeth Warren and

4981
02:52:57,100 --> 02:53:00,480
that other douchebag and those other guys, they

4982
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:03,440
were on the other committee that they were

4983
02:53:03,440 --> 02:53:06,320
at, the Finance Committee, I think is what

4984
02:53:06,320 --> 02:53:10,040
it was, were all bought and paid for

4985
02:53:10,040 --> 02:53:11,020
by Big Pharma.

4986
02:53:11,180 --> 02:53:14,300
But Bernie Sanders, ah, he never was.

4987
02:53:14,640 --> 02:53:17,240
So he calls out Bernie Sanders, who denies

4988
02:53:17,240 --> 02:53:19,800
it, and then has to admit for some

4989
02:53:19,800 --> 02:53:22,700
reason, because I guess Kennedy had the data,

4990
02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:26,720
that Sanders took 1.5. I'm doing this

4991
02:53:26,720 --> 02:53:27,900
in advance because it's kind of muddy.

4992
02:53:28,160 --> 02:53:29,640
1.2. No, I thought it was 1

4993
02:53:29,640 --> 02:53:33,040
.1. Kennedy said 1.5. Oh, okay.

4994
02:53:34,420 --> 02:53:36,360
I think 1.2 is Elizabeth Warren.

4995
02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:40,300
But he says 1.5 after Bernie denied

4996
02:53:40,300 --> 02:53:40,480
it.

4997
02:53:40,520 --> 02:53:42,020
And he says, well, and then Bernie got

4998
02:53:42,020 --> 02:53:42,720
all flustered.

4999
02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:44,480
He said, well, it was only 1.5

5000
02:53:44,480 --> 02:53:45,700
out of 200 million.

5001
02:53:46,540 --> 02:53:48,100
200 million, sure.

5002
02:53:48,540 --> 02:53:50,700
There's no big deal, it's no big deal.

5003
02:53:50,780 --> 02:53:52,860
And then did he realize what he was

5004
02:53:52,860 --> 02:53:56,420
saying and already embarrassed by the onesie stuff,

5005
02:53:57,020 --> 02:53:59,820
he realized what he was saying and he

5006
02:53:59,820 --> 02:54:01,800
just panics and changes the topic.

5007
02:54:02,040 --> 02:54:02,340
Here we go.

5008
02:54:02,380 --> 02:54:03,880
Almost all the members of this panel are

5009
02:54:03,880 --> 02:54:07,160
accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars

5010
02:54:07,160 --> 02:54:08,800
from the pharmaceutical industry.

5011
02:54:09,140 --> 02:54:10,180
Oh, no, no, no, no.

5012
02:54:10,180 --> 02:54:11,600
And protecting their interests.

5013
02:54:11,820 --> 02:54:15,120
Oh, I thought that that would, no, no,

5014
02:54:15,120 --> 02:54:15,220
no.

5015
02:54:15,740 --> 02:54:17,100
I ran for president like you.

5016
02:54:17,600 --> 02:54:20,940
I got millions and millions of contributions.

5017
02:54:21,420 --> 02:54:23,620
They did not come from the executives.

5018
02:54:23,940 --> 02:54:25,260
1.5 million.

5019
02:54:25,580 --> 02:54:27,660
Yeah, out of 200 million.

5020
02:54:27,820 --> 02:54:31,300
All right, but you have not answered, last

5021
02:54:31,300 --> 02:54:31,680
question.

5022
02:54:33,340 --> 02:54:34,060
It's Bernie.

5023
02:54:37,080 --> 02:54:38,880
I think it was, did he really raise

5024
02:54:38,880 --> 02:54:40,140
200 million?

5025
02:54:40,540 --> 02:54:40,820
I don't think so.

5026
02:54:40,820 --> 02:54:42,060
But he ran for president, yeah.

5027
02:54:42,100 --> 02:54:43,300
Yeah, that's a lot of money.

5028
02:54:43,400 --> 02:54:44,960
Well, it was just a little bit, man,

5029
02:54:45,020 --> 02:54:45,680
just a little bit.

5030
02:54:46,120 --> 02:54:47,920
Yeah, it was only 1.5 million to

5031
02:54:47,920 --> 02:54:48,840
chicken feed.

5032
02:54:48,980 --> 02:54:49,320
Yeah.

5033
02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:51,500
This guy's a communist and he says that.

5034
02:54:51,640 --> 02:54:53,680
He really realized what he'd done and he

5035
02:54:53,680 --> 02:54:55,040
freaked out.

5036
02:54:55,200 --> 02:54:56,680
Have we forgotten that he had like three

5037
02:54:56,680 --> 02:54:57,120
houses?

5038
02:54:58,060 --> 02:54:59,020
I thought he had five.

5039
02:54:59,220 --> 02:55:00,180
Oh, maybe it's five.

5040
02:55:03,020 --> 02:55:03,540
Well.

5041
02:55:04,380 --> 02:55:06,480
Socialism been very, very good to me.

5042
02:55:06,720 --> 02:55:07,320
It was interesting.

5043
02:55:07,600 --> 02:55:12,620
I have one clip from Blackburn talking to

5044
02:55:12,620 --> 02:55:16,060
Kash Patel, putting the fear of God into

5045
02:55:16,060 --> 02:55:16,520
people.

5046
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:18,740
Although I thought she could have done a

5047
02:55:18,740 --> 02:55:19,500
little more here.

5048
02:55:19,560 --> 02:55:21,860
Our colleagues know you're going to clean it

5049
02:55:21,860 --> 02:55:22,020
up.

5050
02:55:22,080 --> 02:55:23,140
I want to talk to you about the

5051
02:55:23,140 --> 02:55:24,540
Epstein case.

5052
02:55:24,680 --> 02:55:27,020
I have worked on this for years, trying

5053
02:55:27,020 --> 02:55:29,980
to get those records of who flew on

5054
02:55:29,980 --> 02:55:33,620
Epstein's plane and who helped him build this

5055
02:55:33,620 --> 02:55:38,040
international human trafficking, sex trafficking ring.

5056
02:55:38,200 --> 02:55:42,640
Now, earlier I urged then chairman Durbin to

5057
02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:44,860
subpoena those records.

5058
02:55:45,300 --> 02:55:49,560
And I ended up being blocked by Senator

5059
02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:51,620
Durbin and Christopher Wray.

5060
02:55:51,860 --> 02:55:53,700
They stonewalled on this.

5061
02:55:54,200 --> 02:55:56,180
And I know that breaking up these trafficking

5062
02:55:56,180 --> 02:55:58,980
rings is important to President Trump.

5063
02:55:59,360 --> 02:56:02,420
So will you work with me on this

5064
02:56:02,420 --> 02:56:05,760
issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey

5065
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:09,100
Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings?

5066
02:56:09,620 --> 02:56:10,700
Absolutely, Senator.

5067
02:56:10,920 --> 02:56:13,980
Child sex trafficking has no place in the

5068
02:56:13,980 --> 02:56:15,040
United States of America.

5069
02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:16,780
And I will do everything, if confirmed as

5070
02:56:16,780 --> 02:56:19,320
FBI director, to make sure the American public

5071
02:56:19,320 --> 02:56:21,540
knows the full weight of what happened in

5072
02:56:21,540 --> 02:56:23,120
the past and how we are going to

5073
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:26,300
counterman missing children and exploited children going fewer.

5074
02:56:27,220 --> 02:56:29,600
What I found disappointing is that she didn't

5075
02:56:29,600 --> 02:56:30,780
bring up Diddy files.

5076
02:56:32,340 --> 02:56:34,320
You know, it's like, hey, will you let

5077
02:56:34,320 --> 02:56:35,840
us know who went to the freak off?

5078
02:56:37,480 --> 02:56:38,780
That's what we should have had.

5079
02:56:38,920 --> 02:56:40,520
It's very quiet right now.

5080
02:56:41,360 --> 02:56:42,540
Very quiet around Diddy.

5081
02:56:42,980 --> 02:56:45,840
I don't think, I think constitutional lawyer Rob

5082
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:47,720
said he doesn't expect anything to happen before

5083
02:56:47,720 --> 02:56:48,180
May.

5084
02:56:49,180 --> 02:56:51,140
I hope Diddy stays alive until then.

5085
02:56:52,860 --> 02:56:54,360
And, but it was just a missed opportunity.

5086
02:56:54,640 --> 02:56:56,200
I mean, that would have made the news.

5087
02:56:57,000 --> 02:56:57,360
Epstein.

5088
02:56:58,620 --> 02:56:59,900
Yeah, Epstein's old news.

5089
02:56:59,960 --> 02:57:00,680
Very old news.

5090
02:57:00,780 --> 02:57:02,040
You know, she said, hey, if she, and

5091
02:57:02,040 --> 02:57:02,900
it would have been funny.

5092
02:57:02,940 --> 02:57:03,940
It would have been a great clip if

5093
02:57:03,940 --> 02:57:05,360
she said, will you let us know who

5094
02:57:05,360 --> 02:57:06,340
went to the freak off?

5095
02:57:06,700 --> 02:57:07,940
I mean, come on.

5096
02:57:09,300 --> 02:57:10,040
Get it together.

5097
02:57:10,200 --> 02:57:11,040
Get it together, people.

5098
02:57:11,040 --> 02:57:12,580
You should send a note in to the

5099
02:57:12,580 --> 02:57:13,080
staff.

5100
02:57:14,980 --> 02:57:16,620
Ask for the, if you're going to do

5101
02:57:16,620 --> 02:57:18,340
that stuff, you go to, you call the

5102
02:57:18,340 --> 02:57:19,920
number up at the office and you ask

5103
02:57:19,920 --> 02:57:20,820
for the chief of staff.

5104
02:57:20,860 --> 02:57:22,040
You never asked for the congressman.

5105
02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:22,920
Oh no, that's wrong.

5106
02:57:23,080 --> 02:57:23,220
No.

5107
02:57:23,460 --> 02:57:24,660
You'll never get them, that's why.

5108
02:57:24,740 --> 02:57:26,240
So you ask for the chief, otherwise you

5109
02:57:26,240 --> 02:57:27,080
get an underling.

5110
02:57:27,160 --> 02:57:28,480
But if you ask for the chief of

5111
02:57:28,480 --> 02:57:30,420
staff, if the chief of staff is there,

5112
02:57:30,500 --> 02:57:31,860
they usually will pick up and talk to

5113
02:57:31,860 --> 02:57:32,000
you.

5114
02:57:33,600 --> 02:57:33,920
Tip.

5115
02:57:34,260 --> 02:57:34,680
It's a tip.

5116
02:57:34,940 --> 02:57:35,940
It's a tip, everybody.

5117
02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:37,000
Speaking of tips.

5118
02:57:37,460 --> 02:57:39,560
I'm going to show my salute by donating

5119
02:57:39,560 --> 02:57:40,440
to No Agenda.

5120
02:57:40,580 --> 02:57:42,520
Imagine all the people who could do that.

5121
02:57:42,720 --> 02:57:43,740
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

5122
02:57:45,540 --> 02:57:46,880
Yeah, on No Agenda.

5123
02:57:49,160 --> 02:57:50,420
In the morning.

5124
02:57:50,860 --> 02:57:52,260
And when I say speaking of tips, of

5125
02:57:52,260 --> 02:57:54,220
course, Value for Value is not working for

5126
02:57:54,220 --> 02:57:54,620
tips.

5127
02:57:54,820 --> 02:57:57,480
We work for value, value in return, but

5128
02:57:57,480 --> 02:57:59,780
we do have John's tip of the day

5129
02:57:59,780 --> 02:58:00,300
coming up.

5130
02:58:00,340 --> 02:58:01,620
So you want to stay around for that.

5131
02:58:01,660 --> 02:58:03,480
And we have some dynamite meetup reports.

5132
02:58:03,560 --> 02:58:05,100
And right now, John's going to thank all

5133
02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:07,640
of our Value for Value donors who supported

5134
02:58:07,640 --> 02:58:09,820
us $50 and above for today's episode.

5135
02:58:10,460 --> 02:58:12,220
Yeah, and they have a bonus one in

5136
02:58:12,220 --> 02:58:13,200
here with the note.

5137
02:58:13,860 --> 02:58:16,160
Sean Holman starts us off in Noblesville, Indiana,

5138
02:58:16,300 --> 02:58:20,700
148.48. Talks about the 9-11.

5139
02:58:20,960 --> 02:58:22,280
Everybody's talking about the 9-11.

5140
02:58:22,720 --> 02:58:25,940
Oh, that's the StealthArms.net.

5141
02:58:26,060 --> 02:58:27,980
Yes, the platypus.

5142
02:58:28,940 --> 02:58:32,060
Joseph Muth, Muth, Muth, Muth, M-U-T

5143
02:58:32,060 --> 02:58:33,980
-H in Lake Charles, Louisiana, 135.

5144
02:58:35,600 --> 02:58:37,380
He's a subscriber forever.

5145
02:58:37,720 --> 02:58:41,080
Please give me some single, divorced single dad

5146
02:58:41,080 --> 02:58:41,500
karma.

5147
02:58:41,800 --> 02:58:42,180
Oh, boy.

5148
02:58:42,800 --> 02:58:43,920
So I'll do that at the end for

5149
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:44,020
you.

5150
02:58:44,020 --> 02:58:44,800
Yeah, of course, of course.

5151
02:58:44,900 --> 02:58:51,460
Dakota Walker, 119.93. Baron Latican in Houston,

5152
02:58:51,620 --> 02:58:52,740
Texas, 100.

5153
02:58:52,900 --> 02:58:54,360
And I have the other $100, one that

5154
02:58:54,360 --> 02:58:56,140
came in at the Albany meetup, which I

5155
02:58:56,140 --> 02:59:00,620
wanted to read, because it's a note written

5156
02:59:00,620 --> 02:59:02,780
on a piece of paper torn out of

5157
02:59:02,780 --> 02:59:07,100
a notebook, scratched and scribbled on with red

5158
02:59:07,100 --> 02:59:07,580
ink.

5159
02:59:08,300 --> 02:59:09,700
It's hard enough to read, but it says,

5160
02:59:09,800 --> 02:59:12,000
Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill, I'm writing this note

5161
02:59:12,000 --> 02:59:14,340
to apologize for being a douchebag.

5162
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:16,280
I've been enjoying the show for a while.

5163
02:59:16,360 --> 02:59:19,400
And this is all in, it just kind

5164
02:59:19,400 --> 02:59:21,260
of, it's hard to even describe it.

5165
02:59:21,580 --> 02:59:25,240
Without contributing, it's time to step up, as

5166
02:59:25,240 --> 02:59:28,000
I step up my game, and this is

5167
02:59:28,000 --> 02:59:29,820
a mess here, and this is in support

5168
02:59:29,820 --> 02:59:31,200
of the best podcast in the universe.

5169
02:59:31,200 --> 02:59:32,540
And he says, de-douche me.

5170
02:59:32,720 --> 02:59:33,760
We can do that real quick.

5171
02:59:34,720 --> 02:59:35,260
Oh, yes.

5172
02:59:37,040 --> 02:59:38,920
You've been de-douched.

5173
02:59:39,200 --> 02:59:41,200
And he wants to, you're gonna need a

5174
02:59:41,200 --> 02:59:43,240
Bitcoin, which you might or might not do

5175
02:59:43,240 --> 02:59:43,680
at the end.

5176
02:59:44,240 --> 02:59:48,120
And then he says, Hodel, Lons, and Prosper,

5177
02:59:48,300 --> 02:59:49,360
Eastside Tony.

5178
02:59:50,320 --> 02:59:52,800
And then it says, there's an arrow pointing

5179
02:59:52,800 --> 02:59:54,440
to the back, it says on the back,

5180
02:59:54,880 --> 02:59:57,980
it says, I used chat GPT to write

5181
02:59:57,980 --> 02:59:58,360
this.

5182
02:59:59,460 --> 03:00:01,860
It's Hodel, Hodel, not Hodel, Hodel.

5183
03:00:02,300 --> 03:00:04,460
Hodel, so anyway, so I just found, because

5184
03:00:04,460 --> 03:00:05,780
you had to flip it over, and the

5185
03:00:05,780 --> 03:00:08,200
joke is on the back, which is that

5186
03:00:08,200 --> 03:00:11,340
he used chat GPT, which is bull crap.

5187
03:00:11,540 --> 03:00:13,300
But it just made me laugh out loud

5188
03:00:13,300 --> 03:00:13,900
when I read it.

5189
03:00:14,600 --> 03:00:15,600
Come on, buddy.

5190
03:00:16,040 --> 03:00:16,740
Funny bit.

5191
03:00:17,620 --> 03:00:18,880
Okay, onward, onward.

5192
03:00:19,340 --> 03:00:20,880
Baron Lattican, I think we had him.

5193
03:00:21,180 --> 03:00:24,680
Lai Chow in Daly City, California, 8-84

5194
03:00:24,680 --> 03:00:25,300
-38.

5195
03:00:25,880 --> 03:00:27,980
A boob call out for Crazy Steve.

5196
03:00:28,180 --> 03:00:30,240
The Duke of San Francisco, Ben and Brian,

5197
03:00:30,340 --> 03:00:31,360
as I missed the meetup.

5198
03:00:31,980 --> 03:00:32,620
Yes, you did.

5199
03:00:38,040 --> 03:00:46,000
Jan Brugink in Schmilde, Netherlands.

5200
03:00:47,160 --> 03:00:48,480
It's not Schmilde.

5201
03:00:48,640 --> 03:00:52,720
Schmilde is a very famous, back in the

5202
03:00:52,720 --> 03:00:56,640
70s, there was a very famous train hostage

5203
03:00:56,640 --> 03:01:01,440
situation where the maluckers hijacked a train, and

5204
03:01:01,440 --> 03:01:02,360
it wound up bad.

5205
03:01:02,520 --> 03:01:04,240
The cops went in and shot them, and

5206
03:01:04,240 --> 03:01:05,800
killed them and a couple of passengers.

5207
03:01:07,240 --> 03:01:08,120
Schmilde, Schmilde.

5208
03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:10,720
Fascinating.

5209
03:01:11,200 --> 03:01:13,420
This boob donation for my 59th birthday on

5210
03:01:13,420 --> 03:01:15,820
February 3rd on the birthday list, he's on

5211
03:01:15,820 --> 03:01:15,980
it.

5212
03:01:16,200 --> 03:01:16,880
Four more years.

5213
03:01:17,100 --> 03:01:20,760
Regards, Jan, aka Master of Disaster.

5214
03:01:20,760 --> 03:01:22,220
Master of Disaster.

5215
03:01:23,320 --> 03:01:24,400
Kevin McLaughlin's here.

5216
03:01:24,480 --> 03:01:26,600
There he is, 8008, another boob donation.

5217
03:01:27,140 --> 03:01:28,840
He's the Archduke of Loon, a lover of

5218
03:01:28,840 --> 03:01:32,560
American boobs, and we got a note about

5219
03:01:32,560 --> 03:01:35,600
Kevin McLaughlin from one of our producers, and

5220
03:01:35,600 --> 03:01:36,840
you thanked him profusely.

5221
03:01:37,420 --> 03:01:45,340
He did the research, and he is indeed,

5222
03:01:45,700 --> 03:01:48,680
I guess he was a Viscount, and he

5223
03:01:48,680 --> 03:01:51,020
is an Archduke, so we did some calculations

5224
03:01:51,020 --> 03:01:52,640
on how much money he's contributed.

5225
03:01:52,940 --> 03:01:54,760
Yeah, so this is now, his new title

5226
03:01:54,760 --> 03:01:55,580
is Archduke.

5227
03:01:56,160 --> 03:01:57,060
Yeah, he's Archduke.

5228
03:01:57,260 --> 03:01:58,760
I think he's been calling himself that for

5229
03:01:58,760 --> 03:01:59,040
a while.

5230
03:01:59,120 --> 03:02:00,580
Yeah, so he's on his way to Grand

5231
03:02:00,580 --> 03:02:02,260
Duke, and when that happens, he gets a

5232
03:02:02,260 --> 03:02:02,520
jingle.

5233
03:02:03,460 --> 03:02:05,700
Yeah, well, he's in again for 8008.

5234
03:02:06,320 --> 03:02:10,360
Sir Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia, 6369.

5235
03:02:13,620 --> 03:02:16,440
Not a spook, he says, which is not

5236
03:02:16,440 --> 03:02:18,360
a thing you wanna say because you are

5237
03:02:18,360 --> 03:02:18,740
probably.

5238
03:02:18,740 --> 03:02:20,040
Arlington, Virginia.

5239
03:02:20,300 --> 03:02:21,780
He's in Arlington, Virginia.

5240
03:02:22,140 --> 03:02:22,300
Sure.

5241
03:02:22,540 --> 03:02:25,940
Lester Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006, so it's

5242
03:02:25,940 --> 03:02:26,680
just small boob.

5243
03:02:28,240 --> 03:02:31,500
Gregory Kierdak in Padova, Italy.

5244
03:02:31,860 --> 03:02:32,000
Ah.

5245
03:02:32,340 --> 03:02:32,580
Hello.

5246
03:02:33,220 --> 03:02:34,680
I think we should pick up some Italian

5247
03:02:34,680 --> 03:02:35,140
listeners.

5248
03:02:36,240 --> 03:02:39,700
John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 5272.

5249
03:02:39,800 --> 03:02:41,780
These are all $50 donors, actually, but I'm

5250
03:02:41,780 --> 03:02:42,820
gonna read them off separately.

5251
03:02:43,600 --> 03:02:46,220
Catherine Von Esch, 5272.

5252
03:02:46,220 --> 03:02:50,060
James Moore in San Pablo, 5233.

5253
03:02:50,320 --> 03:02:53,440
Michael Belcher, 5150.

5254
03:02:53,620 --> 03:02:56,080
Sir Chris in Williams, Arizona on the birthday

5255
03:02:56,080 --> 03:02:58,440
list, 5150.

5256
03:02:58,620 --> 03:03:03,320
Peter Garten in Edina, Minnesota.

5257
03:03:03,560 --> 03:03:06,640
That's Edina, 51.

5258
03:03:07,860 --> 03:03:10,580
Now the $50 donors are upon us.

5259
03:03:10,660 --> 03:03:12,740
There's not that many people total in today's

5260
03:03:12,740 --> 03:03:13,640
show, but we got them.

5261
03:03:14,630 --> 03:03:17,360
Jordan Tierney in Oral, South Dakota.

5262
03:03:17,580 --> 03:03:20,040
Scott McCarty in Lodi.

5263
03:03:20,780 --> 03:03:23,740
Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.

5264
03:03:24,160 --> 03:03:28,220
Matt Frazee, F-R-A-Z-E-E

5265
03:03:28,220 --> 03:03:29,500
in St. John's, Florida.

5266
03:03:29,780 --> 03:03:32,380
Foster Birch, New York City.

5267
03:03:32,800 --> 03:03:35,020
Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan.

5268
03:03:35,380 --> 03:03:38,920
Robert Drykosen in Parts Unknown.

5269
03:03:39,480 --> 03:03:42,100
Terrence Phillips in Florence, Montana.

5270
03:03:42,480 --> 03:03:43,520
Now this is interesting.

5271
03:03:43,640 --> 03:03:46,900
Terrence says, I just don't have time to

5272
03:03:46,900 --> 03:03:49,360
listen to your podcasts, but I do enjoy

5273
03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:50,060
your emails.

5274
03:03:52,300 --> 03:03:53,920
This is for the newsletter, John.

5275
03:03:54,620 --> 03:03:56,240
Yeah, it's the first donation.

5276
03:03:56,540 --> 03:03:57,980
Newsletter sent to the donation.

5277
03:03:58,400 --> 03:03:58,860
That's great.

5278
03:03:59,400 --> 03:04:00,900
Value for value for the newsletter.

5279
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:01,800
Here's my donation.

5280
03:04:01,920 --> 03:04:03,460
Hope that you keep doing whatever you're doing

5281
03:04:03,460 --> 03:04:04,280
since I don't listen.

5282
03:04:04,460 --> 03:04:04,880
It's great.

5283
03:04:06,860 --> 03:04:07,660
Well, listen.

5284
03:04:08,320 --> 03:04:10,040
Well, he's not listening to this, so what

5285
03:04:10,040 --> 03:04:10,700
difference does it make?

5286
03:04:10,700 --> 03:04:14,300
Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon, 50.

5287
03:04:16,340 --> 03:04:18,500
He loves the podcast, obviously.

5288
03:04:18,940 --> 03:04:23,480
And Nelson Naff, N-A-F in Portugal,

5289
03:04:24,460 --> 03:04:26,740
50, just turned 50, he's on the birthday

5290
03:04:26,740 --> 03:04:30,340
list, and he will be birthdayed later.

5291
03:04:30,820 --> 03:04:32,560
I want to thank these people for show

5292
03:04:32,560 --> 03:04:33,600
1735.

5293
03:04:34,160 --> 03:04:37,460
Yes, and has requested, gotta have a Bitcoin

5294
03:04:37,460 --> 03:04:40,460
and a divorced single dad karma.

5295
03:04:41,340 --> 03:04:44,020
They're saying that all hell is gonna break

5296
03:04:44,020 --> 03:04:45,120
loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin.

5297
03:04:47,580 --> 03:04:49,160
You've got karma.

5298
03:04:49,400 --> 03:04:51,460
Thank you very much to the supporters of

5299
03:04:51,460 --> 03:04:52,860
the best podcast in the universe.

5300
03:04:53,020 --> 03:04:54,780
And again, thank you to our executive and

5301
03:04:54,780 --> 03:04:56,020
associate executive producers.

5302
03:04:56,200 --> 03:04:59,780
Go to noagendadonations.com, especially if you're a

5303
03:04:59,780 --> 03:05:02,300
sustaining donor, check and make sure that it

5304
03:05:02,300 --> 03:05:03,220
is still sustaining.

5305
03:05:03,520 --> 03:05:04,960
And if not, you can set one up,

5306
03:05:05,080 --> 03:05:08,740
noagendadonations.com, any amount, any frequency, it's easy.

5307
03:05:08,940 --> 03:05:11,460
Support the show, support the work, support us,

5308
03:05:12,540 --> 03:05:13,660
noagendadonations.com.

5309
03:05:14,300 --> 03:05:19,620
It's your birthday party, on No Agenda TV.

5310
03:05:19,640 --> 03:05:21,600
Sir Chris of the Benevolent Order of the

5311
03:05:21,600 --> 03:05:23,960
Choo-Choos, which is Max Power of Sequim

5312
03:05:23,960 --> 03:05:25,560
in Washington, a very happy birthday.

5313
03:05:25,700 --> 03:05:27,640
He's celebrated on the 31st of January.

5314
03:05:27,820 --> 03:05:31,760
Jan Brueghink turns 59 tomorrow, as does Alexander,

5315
03:05:31,940 --> 03:05:35,000
only he turns 33, and Nelson Naff turns

5316
03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:35,960
50 years old.

5317
03:05:35,960 --> 03:05:37,960
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best

5318
03:05:37,960 --> 03:05:39,420
podcast in the universe.

5319
03:05:39,660 --> 03:05:43,320
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ And we

5320
03:05:43,320 --> 03:05:44,440
do have one night, that's right.

5321
03:05:44,500 --> 03:05:46,300
We have one night, so we'll get our

5322
03:05:46,300 --> 03:05:47,260
one night blade out.

5323
03:05:47,360 --> 03:05:48,780
It's the mother of plural handle.

5324
03:05:48,900 --> 03:05:50,440
Oh, you got your drink?

5325
03:05:50,580 --> 03:05:52,740
You can't be using blades and drinks at

5326
03:05:52,740 --> 03:05:53,520
the same time.

5327
03:05:53,560 --> 03:05:55,320
I used a blade to open a drink.

5328
03:05:55,420 --> 03:05:57,320
It's an orange vanilla polar seltzer.

5329
03:06:00,280 --> 03:06:01,720
Come on up here in the podium, sir.

5330
03:06:01,760 --> 03:06:03,400
Thank you very much for supporting the No

5331
03:06:03,400 --> 03:06:05,040
Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000

5332
03:06:05,040 --> 03:06:06,060
or more.

5333
03:06:06,060 --> 03:06:08,320
I am very proud to pronounce the KD

5334
03:06:08,320 --> 03:06:11,780
as Sir James DuPont, Knight of Soul Fun

5335
03:06:11,780 --> 03:06:12,320
Meme.

5336
03:06:12,460 --> 03:06:14,080
That's soulfunmeme.com.

5337
03:06:14,140 --> 03:06:15,660
For you, sir, we have hookers and blows,

5338
03:06:15,920 --> 03:06:17,920
records and blows, red boys and chardonnay.

5339
03:06:18,380 --> 03:06:19,720
Along with that, in case you want it,

5340
03:06:19,740 --> 03:06:20,820
we got fish pie and palacio.

5341
03:06:21,160 --> 03:06:25,160
We have mustard jolie and margaritas, redheads and

5342
03:06:25,160 --> 03:06:27,480
ryes, rubinous, rubin and rosé, gayson and sake,

5343
03:06:27,680 --> 03:06:29,960
vodka, vanilla, bongets and bourbon, sparkling cider and

5344
03:06:29,960 --> 03:06:32,860
escorts, breast milk and pablum, ginger ale and

5345
03:06:32,860 --> 03:06:33,300
tramples.

5346
03:06:33,400 --> 03:06:34,880
The big favorite, oh, of course, as always,

5347
03:06:34,980 --> 03:06:36,540
the mutton and the mead.

5348
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:41,080
You, sir, can go to noagendarings.com.

5349
03:06:41,180 --> 03:06:43,400
Check out that very handsome No Agenda Knight

5350
03:06:43,400 --> 03:06:46,820
ring, also available for dames, if you want

5351
03:06:46,820 --> 03:06:47,560
to become a dame.

5352
03:06:48,040 --> 03:06:50,540
And send us your ring size with the

5353
03:06:50,540 --> 03:06:53,140
ring size guide, which is there on the

5354
03:06:53,140 --> 03:06:54,600
website, and send us the address.

5355
03:06:54,680 --> 03:06:55,680
We'll get it off to you as soon

5356
03:06:55,680 --> 03:06:56,220
as possible.

5357
03:06:56,700 --> 03:06:58,400
And welcome to the round table, and thank

5358
03:06:58,400 --> 03:07:00,300
you for becoming a No Agenda Knight.

5359
03:07:00,300 --> 03:07:02,350
No Agenda Meetups!

5360
03:07:06,040 --> 03:07:08,960
Well, I don't think I have to explain

5361
03:07:08,960 --> 03:07:10,540
how important these meetups are.

5362
03:07:10,660 --> 03:07:13,560
So many people mentioned that already, and of

5363
03:07:13,560 --> 03:07:16,500
course, John did his report of the meetup

5364
03:07:16,500 --> 03:07:17,560
there in Alameda.

5365
03:07:17,660 --> 03:07:19,140
We did have a big meetup- Albany.

5366
03:07:19,560 --> 03:07:20,180
In Albany.

5367
03:07:20,260 --> 03:07:20,580
Albany.

5368
03:07:20,800 --> 03:07:21,300
Albany.

5369
03:07:21,400 --> 03:07:23,020
Oh, Albany.

5370
03:07:23,280 --> 03:07:25,680
A-W-L-B-A-N-Y.

5371
03:07:26,220 --> 03:07:26,540
Albany.

5372
03:07:26,660 --> 03:07:28,120
And we had a very big meetup in

5373
03:07:28,120 --> 03:07:28,600
Chicago.

5374
03:07:29,020 --> 03:07:30,940
This is where Eli the Coffee Guy hung

5375
03:07:30,940 --> 03:07:31,780
out, and more!

5376
03:07:31,940 --> 03:07:33,560
Hey, Adam and John, thanks for everything.

5377
03:07:33,780 --> 03:07:36,920
This is your gracious host, Blake Michigan.

5378
03:07:37,700 --> 03:07:38,800
I'm wearing a onesie.

5379
03:07:39,420 --> 03:07:40,760
Brian with a Y.

5380
03:07:41,340 --> 03:07:44,040
We are here, we're definitely editing in a

5381
03:07:44,040 --> 03:07:45,560
post, and I'm about to pass the phone

5382
03:07:45,560 --> 03:07:45,960
around.

5383
03:07:46,460 --> 03:07:47,440
We're sucking in soot.

5384
03:07:48,820 --> 03:07:50,240
In the morning, John and Adam, this is

5385
03:07:50,240 --> 03:07:52,940
Barron NBS down here at Reggie's, South Loop,

5386
03:07:53,060 --> 03:07:54,840
Chicago, in the morning.

5387
03:07:56,560 --> 03:07:59,240
This is Kate, and Eli hooked us up

5388
03:07:59,240 --> 03:08:00,380
with some free coffee.

5389
03:08:01,800 --> 03:08:03,000
What's up, guys?

5390
03:08:03,100 --> 03:08:05,880
This is Eli the Coffee Guy saying, no

5391
03:08:05,880 --> 03:08:08,940
agenda is a spectacular podcast, and I'm with

5392
03:08:08,940 --> 03:08:11,660
some spectacular people here at Reggie's.

5393
03:08:11,980 --> 03:08:14,180
This is Rack from North Riverside, in the

5394
03:08:14,180 --> 03:08:14,460
morning.

5395
03:08:16,560 --> 03:08:20,400
This is Dame Courtney, guardian of the aerodrome.

5396
03:08:21,500 --> 03:08:24,820
Planes, bad, trains, good, especially after this.

5397
03:08:24,820 --> 03:08:26,060
This week, shit.

5398
03:08:26,960 --> 03:08:30,020
Tony in Chicago here, wishing everyone two to

5399
03:08:30,020 --> 03:08:30,480
the head.

5400
03:08:31,020 --> 03:08:31,560
Two, two.

5401
03:08:33,860 --> 03:08:36,880
In the morning, Walter and Stettler.

5402
03:08:38,120 --> 03:08:41,280
PBR Street Gang coming to you from Chicago.

5403
03:08:41,800 --> 03:08:44,060
Hey, guys, leave the comedy to the Bears.

5404
03:08:44,820 --> 03:08:47,500
Dame Trinity visiting from Fort Wayne here in

5405
03:08:47,500 --> 03:08:49,340
Chicago, having a great time as always.

5406
03:08:49,440 --> 03:08:50,380
Thank you for your courage.

5407
03:08:50,980 --> 03:08:52,940
The Bears who beat Green Bay for the

5408
03:08:52,940 --> 03:08:55,200
last game with the worst offensive line ever.

5409
03:08:55,360 --> 03:08:56,940
Hey, yay, Bears.

5410
03:08:57,540 --> 03:08:58,540
William here.

5411
03:08:59,860 --> 03:09:01,720
Hi, my name is Armando Padilla.

5412
03:09:01,900 --> 03:09:03,780
I am here with the No Agenda crew

5413
03:09:03,780 --> 03:09:06,400
at Reggie's Bar, and this is my little

5414
03:09:06,400 --> 03:09:07,260
feedback on the crew.

5415
03:09:07,860 --> 03:09:09,340
I really enjoyed their presence.

5416
03:09:09,860 --> 03:09:11,800
It's really cool to see people connect on

5417
03:09:11,800 --> 03:09:14,160
a podcast, bringing people together.

5418
03:09:14,780 --> 03:09:17,500
It's also super interesting to see the content

5419
03:09:17,500 --> 03:09:18,620
that they're talking about.

5420
03:09:20,120 --> 03:09:23,460
We're all tapped into this world very differently,

5421
03:09:23,460 --> 03:09:25,260
and I love that this podcast can bring

5422
03:09:25,260 --> 03:09:26,960
so many people together.

5423
03:09:27,340 --> 03:09:29,740
No Agendas, really enjoy it.

5424
03:09:29,800 --> 03:09:31,140
I'm definitely going to be checking it out

5425
03:09:31,140 --> 03:09:32,000
on my spare time.

5426
03:09:32,540 --> 03:09:33,360
Appreciate you.

5427
03:09:33,680 --> 03:09:36,220
That was the server, which I thought was

5428
03:09:36,220 --> 03:09:37,120
quite good.

5429
03:09:38,240 --> 03:09:38,340
Wow.

5430
03:09:38,540 --> 03:09:39,220
Yeah, yeah.

5431
03:09:39,640 --> 03:09:42,860
And this is very liberal Chicago, Chicago.

5432
03:09:43,180 --> 03:09:44,120
So I thought that was cool.

5433
03:09:44,280 --> 03:09:45,000
I appreciate that.

5434
03:09:45,060 --> 03:09:45,340
All right.

5435
03:09:45,500 --> 03:09:46,020
Turning around.

5436
03:09:46,740 --> 03:09:47,780
Ralph Reed.

5437
03:09:48,600 --> 03:09:49,820
What about Ralph Reed?

5438
03:09:50,280 --> 03:09:51,180
That's the name.

5439
03:09:51,880 --> 03:09:53,420
It finally came to me.

5440
03:09:53,580 --> 03:09:56,480
Oh, the guy from three hours ago?

5441
03:09:57,100 --> 03:09:57,360
Yeah.

5442
03:09:58,400 --> 03:10:00,060
Let me take a look at the Ralph

5443
03:10:00,060 --> 03:10:00,400
Reed.

5444
03:10:00,860 --> 03:10:02,720
That name means nothing to me.

5445
03:10:02,900 --> 03:10:03,300
Let me see.

5446
03:10:03,420 --> 03:10:05,120
Oh, very famous guy.

5447
03:10:05,260 --> 03:10:06,700
Ralph Reed was the head of the Christian

5448
03:10:06,700 --> 03:10:09,800
Coalition during the early 1990s.

5449
03:10:10,020 --> 03:10:11,740
He's a consultant, lobbyist.

5450
03:10:11,780 --> 03:10:13,340
He was very famous, and then he got

5451
03:10:13,340 --> 03:10:14,740
caught with some scandal.

5452
03:10:14,740 --> 03:10:15,600
With his pants down?

5453
03:10:15,860 --> 03:10:16,300
What's that again?

5454
03:10:16,600 --> 03:10:18,380
It was his pants down, something in his

5455
03:10:18,380 --> 03:10:21,020
mouth, or some money deal, which is probably

5456
03:10:21,020 --> 03:10:21,600
more likely.

5457
03:10:22,020 --> 03:10:22,800
Uh, yeah.

5458
03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:24,620
Ralph Reed, yeah, very famous.

5459
03:10:24,820 --> 03:10:26,380
He was on every show.

5460
03:10:26,960 --> 03:10:29,320
Huh, I'd never heard of Ralph Reed.

5461
03:10:29,460 --> 03:10:29,840
Interesting.

5462
03:10:30,540 --> 03:10:32,220
It's interesting you never heard of him.

5463
03:10:32,320 --> 03:10:34,480
Well, what's cool is that people who listened

5464
03:10:34,480 --> 03:10:37,280
to this whole episode got the clue at

5465
03:10:37,280 --> 03:10:38,260
the end of the show.

5466
03:10:39,320 --> 03:10:40,720
I know that many- He's been grinding

5467
03:10:40,720 --> 03:10:42,120
on this for like a day.

5468
03:10:42,740 --> 03:10:44,900
Many have been just sitting here, when it

5469
03:10:44,900 --> 03:10:45,760
just came to me.

5470
03:10:45,760 --> 03:10:46,440
Ah, I can't figure it out.

5471
03:10:46,660 --> 03:10:48,580
Actually, Ralph came to me first, and then

5472
03:10:48,580 --> 03:10:49,960
I got the Reed part later, and then,

5473
03:10:50,080 --> 03:10:51,160
oh, that's right.

5474
03:10:51,300 --> 03:10:55,040
If you're in Pennsylvania today, the Too Many

5475
03:10:55,040 --> 03:10:57,980
Kegs meetup is underway at McGillin's Old Ale

5476
03:10:57,980 --> 03:10:59,640
House in Philly.

5477
03:10:59,960 --> 03:11:01,900
On Thursday, our next show day, the North

5478
03:11:01,900 --> 03:11:04,460
Idaho Sanity Brigade meets their first meetup of

5479
03:11:04,460 --> 03:11:07,180
2025, five o'clock at Trails and Brewery

5480
03:11:07,180 --> 03:11:08,500
and Brick Oven Pizza.

5481
03:11:08,800 --> 03:11:11,100
That's in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

5482
03:11:11,380 --> 03:11:14,520
And also on Thursday, the Northern Wake Publical

5483
03:11:14,520 --> 03:11:16,780
Slave Gathering, six o'clock at Saints and

5484
03:11:16,780 --> 03:11:19,000
Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina.

5485
03:11:19,140 --> 03:11:20,540
We have more coming up in the month

5486
03:11:20,540 --> 03:11:21,060
of February.

5487
03:11:21,300 --> 03:11:25,060
Colorado Springs, Snohomish, Washington, Eagle, Idaho, Fort Wayne,

5488
03:11:25,160 --> 03:11:29,280
Indiana, Rockville, Maryland, Bedford, Texas, Shelby Township, Michigan,

5489
03:11:29,620 --> 03:11:33,180
Keene, New Hampshire, Charlotte, North Carolina, Columbia River

5490
03:11:33,180 --> 03:11:36,400
Basin, that's the Tri-Cities, and Washington, Ottawa,

5491
03:11:36,660 --> 03:11:37,160
Ontario.

5492
03:11:37,560 --> 03:11:39,720
That'll be 25% more expensive to send

5493
03:11:39,720 --> 03:11:40,560
in your meetup report.

5494
03:11:40,940 --> 03:11:45,020
Orlando, Florida, and Indianapolis, Indiana on the 23rd.

5495
03:11:45,020 --> 03:11:46,380
Those are just some of the meetups that

5496
03:11:46,380 --> 03:11:47,040
are taking place.

5497
03:11:47,280 --> 03:11:48,980
There's a whole list, you can find them

5498
03:11:48,980 --> 03:11:50,660
at noagendameetups.com.

5499
03:11:50,780 --> 03:11:53,420
These are producer-organized, you take care of

5500
03:11:53,420 --> 03:11:54,880
yourself, you take care of each other.

5501
03:11:55,000 --> 03:11:55,280
Why?

5502
03:11:55,460 --> 03:11:57,640
Because connection is protection.

5503
03:11:57,880 --> 03:11:59,620
Get that attitude of gratitude, go over to

5504
03:11:59,620 --> 03:12:00,800
noagendameetups.com.

5505
03:12:00,900 --> 03:12:02,540
If you can't find one, start one yourself.

5506
03:12:02,960 --> 03:12:06,340
♪ Sometimes you wanna go hang out ♪

5507
03:12:06,340 --> 03:12:10,340
♪ With all the nights and days ♪

5508
03:12:10,340 --> 03:12:12,480
♪ You wanna be where you want to

5509
03:12:12,480 --> 03:12:14,360
be ♪ ♪ Drink it all, hell's a

5510
03:12:14,360 --> 03:12:17,660
flame ♪ ♪ You wanna be where everybody

5511
03:12:17,660 --> 03:12:22,660
feels the same ♪ It's like a party.

5512
03:12:23,740 --> 03:12:26,060
Always, always, always like a party.

5513
03:12:26,340 --> 03:12:27,800
You heard it right there, it's like a

5514
03:12:27,800 --> 03:12:28,000
party.

5515
03:12:28,100 --> 03:12:29,340
Even the server's getting on.

5516
03:12:29,440 --> 03:12:30,780
Hey, it's like a party, wanna be here.

5517
03:12:31,300 --> 03:12:32,660
So I see you only have one ISO.

5518
03:12:33,500 --> 03:12:33,920
Yes.

5519
03:12:34,420 --> 03:12:34,840
Huh.

5520
03:12:36,620 --> 03:12:40,160
Because it's so good that if you have

5521
03:12:40,160 --> 03:12:41,340
something better, good for you.

5522
03:12:41,640 --> 03:12:42,640
Maybe, I don't know.

5523
03:12:42,660 --> 03:12:43,460
I'm gonna tell you something.

5524
03:12:43,540 --> 03:12:44,660
Here's a tip for people out there looking

5525
03:12:44,660 --> 03:12:45,300
for ISOs.

5526
03:12:45,880 --> 03:12:47,140
Books on tape.

5527
03:12:48,480 --> 03:12:49,480
Books on tape?

5528
03:12:50,260 --> 03:12:50,420
Oh.

5529
03:12:50,480 --> 03:12:52,620
Yeah, because the guys, because there's lots of

5530
03:12:52,620 --> 03:12:54,360
different kinds of things they say and it's

5531
03:12:54,360 --> 03:12:55,500
always crystal clear.

5532
03:12:55,760 --> 03:12:56,440
Yes, okay.

5533
03:12:56,680 --> 03:12:58,080
Well, should we play yours first?

5534
03:12:58,140 --> 03:12:58,540
I have three.

5535
03:12:58,620 --> 03:13:00,120
No, I wanna hear yours first and see

5536
03:13:00,120 --> 03:13:02,680
if I, because I'll push this off if

5537
03:13:02,680 --> 03:13:03,420
you got something great.

5538
03:13:03,480 --> 03:13:03,720
Okay.

5539
03:13:03,820 --> 03:13:05,300
This doesn't seem very useful.

5540
03:13:07,240 --> 03:13:08,020
It's negative.

5541
03:13:08,540 --> 03:13:11,040
What a way to start a Sunday fun

5542
03:13:11,040 --> 03:13:11,500
day.

5543
03:13:13,600 --> 03:13:14,760
I'm just saying.

5544
03:13:15,320 --> 03:13:16,640
And then, Yeah, that's pretty good.

5545
03:13:16,740 --> 03:13:17,260
That's not bad.

5546
03:13:17,380 --> 03:13:18,520
We have, oh, good.

5547
03:13:18,700 --> 03:13:19,640
Oh, that's great.

5548
03:13:19,740 --> 03:13:20,840
Oh, that's wonderful.

5549
03:13:21,740 --> 03:13:22,620
Come on, man.

5550
03:13:22,640 --> 03:13:23,720
I didn't like that when you said it

5551
03:13:23,720 --> 03:13:24,400
the first time.

5552
03:13:24,500 --> 03:13:25,240
Can you beat it?

5553
03:13:25,340 --> 03:13:26,080
Can you beat it?

5554
03:13:26,840 --> 03:13:27,780
Well, let's see.

5555
03:13:28,760 --> 03:13:30,600
The fun day Sunday one is good, but

5556
03:13:30,600 --> 03:13:32,040
check this one out.

5557
03:13:32,420 --> 03:13:34,400
There is no way anything can be this

5558
03:13:34,400 --> 03:13:34,700
good.

5559
03:13:36,320 --> 03:13:36,760
Hmm.

5560
03:13:37,180 --> 03:13:39,160
Let me, let's do an ISO off.

5561
03:13:39,500 --> 03:13:41,980
What a way to start a Sunday fun

5562
03:13:41,980 --> 03:13:42,320
day.

5563
03:13:42,620 --> 03:13:44,580
There is no way anything can be this

5564
03:13:44,580 --> 03:13:44,880
good.

5565
03:13:45,200 --> 03:13:46,360
Oh man, I don't know.

5566
03:13:46,860 --> 03:13:47,820
I'd leave it to you.

5567
03:13:47,980 --> 03:13:49,080
I'm going to leave it to Beaver.

5568
03:13:49,440 --> 03:13:50,960
Are you gonna actually leave it to me?

5569
03:13:51,060 --> 03:13:51,280
Yeah.

5570
03:13:52,700 --> 03:13:53,100
Both.

5571
03:13:53,480 --> 03:13:54,640
No, it's too long.

5572
03:13:54,740 --> 03:13:55,700
With yours first.

5573
03:13:55,840 --> 03:13:58,100
It doesn't fit in the, we only have

5574
03:13:58,100 --> 03:13:59,080
four seconds.

5575
03:13:59,820 --> 03:14:01,480
Well, I'm gonna have to relent.

5576
03:14:02,540 --> 03:14:05,600
And even though mine's crystal clear, the fun

5577
03:14:05,600 --> 03:14:07,140
day Sunday thing is funnier.

5578
03:14:08,260 --> 03:14:09,280
And it is Sunday.

5579
03:14:09,840 --> 03:14:11,260
And it is fun day.

5580
03:14:12,020 --> 03:14:13,120
And so I don't know.

5581
03:14:13,220 --> 03:14:13,900
Okay, you win.

5582
03:14:14,020 --> 03:14:14,680
Hold on a second.

5583
03:14:14,920 --> 03:14:16,320
Let me just kick this guy because he

5584
03:14:16,320 --> 03:14:17,220
said both sucked.

5585
03:14:17,480 --> 03:14:18,160
Let me kick him.

5586
03:14:19,540 --> 03:14:20,460
Both sucked.

5587
03:14:20,600 --> 03:14:21,440
He said they both sucked.

5588
03:14:21,560 --> 03:14:21,720
Get him out of here.

5589
03:14:21,720 --> 03:14:23,720
And now ladies and gentlemen, time once again

5590
03:14:23,720 --> 03:14:26,020
for the famous John's tip of the day.

5591
03:14:27,160 --> 03:14:29,600
Great advice for you and me.

5592
03:14:29,780 --> 03:14:31,860
Just the tip with JCD.

5593
03:14:33,340 --> 03:14:34,860
And sometimes Adam.

5594
03:14:35,740 --> 03:14:36,100
Created by my lady.

5595
03:14:36,100 --> 03:14:37,140
Now I'm gonna get to the point where

5596
03:14:37,140 --> 03:14:39,100
I'm gonna start repeating myself on some things.

5597
03:14:39,240 --> 03:14:42,120
Well, then that's the end of the tips

5598
03:14:42,120 --> 03:14:42,640
of the day.

5599
03:14:42,760 --> 03:14:43,200
I mean, if you're gonna be repeating yourself.

5600
03:14:43,200 --> 03:14:44,680
No, it's just gonna be repeating.

5601
03:14:44,800 --> 03:14:45,820
I can get a million of them.

5602
03:14:47,400 --> 03:14:49,220
I'm recommending Bio-Sil.

5603
03:14:50,680 --> 03:14:51,780
Have we done this one?

5604
03:14:51,820 --> 03:14:52,740
Have we done Bio-Sil?

5605
03:14:52,800 --> 03:14:54,820
I've mentioned Bio-Sil because it's the drops.

5606
03:14:55,440 --> 03:14:57,600
I use six drops of this stuff in

5607
03:14:57,600 --> 03:14:58,620
my concoction.

5608
03:14:59,480 --> 03:15:01,340
But I never discussed it directly.

5609
03:15:03,080 --> 03:15:04,940
And people can look it up if they

5610
03:15:04,940 --> 03:15:05,180
did.

5611
03:15:05,380 --> 03:15:07,060
I have another, I get backup, but I

5612
03:15:07,060 --> 03:15:08,140
don't think I need it.

5613
03:15:08,320 --> 03:15:08,700
Backup to the back.

5614
03:15:08,700 --> 03:15:10,500
This is a collagen generated.

5615
03:15:10,720 --> 03:15:12,360
This is an invention out of Japan.

5616
03:15:12,480 --> 03:15:13,940
The Japanese are into collagen.

5617
03:15:14,420 --> 03:15:16,740
And if anyone doesn't know this, the recent

5618
03:15:16,740 --> 03:15:19,520
discoveries in collagen, which is good for the

5619
03:15:19,520 --> 03:15:22,000
structure of your skin because it holds it

5620
03:15:22,000 --> 03:15:22,460
together.

5621
03:15:23,380 --> 03:15:25,000
I don't use this as much as I

5622
03:15:25,000 --> 03:15:25,260
should.

5623
03:15:26,060 --> 03:15:28,700
But you can buy like marine collagen, you

5624
03:15:28,700 --> 03:15:30,200
can buy all these collagens now because they've

5625
03:15:30,200 --> 03:15:32,060
changed the way they're manufactured to the point

5626
03:15:32,060 --> 03:15:33,160
where they're actually used.

5627
03:15:33,280 --> 03:15:34,040
They can be used.

5628
03:15:34,160 --> 03:15:35,500
They can get into the bloodstream and then

5629
03:15:35,500 --> 03:15:38,800
go drop collagen all over the place, which

5630
03:15:38,800 --> 03:15:40,340
you need for your structure.

5631
03:15:40,660 --> 03:15:41,440
You need collagen?

5632
03:15:41,620 --> 03:15:42,120
Is this true?

5633
03:15:42,180 --> 03:15:43,040
We need collagen?

5634
03:15:43,340 --> 03:15:44,660
Yes, you need lots of collagen.

5635
03:15:44,680 --> 03:15:46,700
You need collagen and you start to lose

5636
03:15:46,700 --> 03:15:48,340
it and it starts to fall apart and

5637
03:15:48,340 --> 03:15:50,080
that's when your face starts to sag and

5638
03:15:50,080 --> 03:15:51,300
you have all these issues.

5639
03:15:51,820 --> 03:15:54,300
But this stuff, this is not collagen.

5640
03:15:54,900 --> 03:15:57,980
This is a thing that helps your body

5641
03:15:58,600 --> 03:16:01,240
get the collagen where it belongs and move

5642
03:16:01,240 --> 03:16:03,140
it around and make collagen.

5643
03:16:03,360 --> 03:16:05,360
It's like collagen hamburger helper.

5644
03:16:07,060 --> 03:16:09,520
Yes, I would say that, which is one

5645
03:16:09,520 --> 03:16:10,480
of your all-time favorites.

5646
03:16:10,660 --> 03:16:10,960
Yes.

5647
03:16:11,180 --> 03:16:13,760
Hamburger helper is used as an adjuvant is

5648
03:16:13,760 --> 03:16:14,820
where you started using it.

5649
03:16:14,820 --> 03:16:15,380
That's right.

5650
03:16:15,380 --> 03:16:16,280
With the vaccines.

5651
03:16:16,520 --> 03:16:16,900
That's right.

5652
03:16:17,000 --> 03:16:17,920
You remember well.

5653
03:16:17,920 --> 03:16:19,080
This was established years and years ago.

5654
03:16:19,160 --> 03:16:19,700
Yes, true.

5655
03:16:19,940 --> 03:16:20,500
It's a callback.

5656
03:16:21,660 --> 03:16:27,180
This is, it comes in pills which are

5657
03:16:27,180 --> 03:16:31,260
extremely expensive or these drops which are like

5658
03:16:31,260 --> 03:16:32,960
half the price and do the same thing.

5659
03:16:33,280 --> 03:16:34,880
The problem with the drops is that if

5660
03:16:34,880 --> 03:16:37,080
you don't follow instructions on how to use

5661
03:16:37,080 --> 03:16:39,580
them, it will wreck anything you'd put the

5662
03:16:39,580 --> 03:16:40,220
drops into.

5663
03:16:41,780 --> 03:16:45,200
Because it's got a weird bitter flavor that

5664
03:16:45,200 --> 03:16:47,240
is just like, I don't like that in

5665
03:16:47,240 --> 03:16:47,340
my mouth.

5666
03:16:47,340 --> 03:16:48,860
Are you supposed to eat it?

5667
03:16:49,320 --> 03:16:52,300
No, if you put it in something with

5668
03:16:52,300 --> 03:16:54,380
citric acid like an orange juice or lemon

5669
03:16:54,380 --> 03:16:56,040
juice or that way you wouldn't use lemon

5670
03:16:56,040 --> 03:16:58,160
juice but grapefruit juice or orange juice, it

5671
03:16:58,160 --> 03:17:00,480
just, you don't even know it's in there.

5672
03:17:00,840 --> 03:17:03,100
So you put the six drops in the

5673
03:17:03,100 --> 03:17:04,960
orange juice and drink the orange juice as

5674
03:17:04,960 --> 03:17:06,900
normal and you, this stuff's fabulous.

5675
03:17:07,080 --> 03:17:08,200
So this would be good if you have

5676
03:17:08,200 --> 03:17:10,200
ozempic face, you take some of these drops.

5677
03:17:10,200 --> 03:17:10,920
Yeah, I think so.

5678
03:17:11,080 --> 03:17:11,800
I like it.

5679
03:17:11,840 --> 03:17:13,180
Have you been taking them?

5680
03:17:14,180 --> 03:17:14,820
The ozempic?

5681
03:17:14,920 --> 03:17:15,060
No.

5682
03:17:15,160 --> 03:17:18,180
No, the drops, the collagen hamburger helper.

5683
03:17:18,180 --> 03:17:18,980
Yeah, I've been taking them for years.

5684
03:17:19,220 --> 03:17:21,140
Oh, no wonder you look so young and

5685
03:17:21,140 --> 03:17:21,320
youthful.

5686
03:17:21,320 --> 03:17:23,300
Oh yeah, I don't look that young.

5687
03:17:23,300 --> 03:17:25,040
I probably need to take more of it.

5688
03:17:25,620 --> 03:17:28,080
Tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

5689
03:17:28,620 --> 03:17:32,020
Creative lives for you and me, just the

5690
03:17:32,020 --> 03:17:33,420
tip of the JCB.

5691
03:17:34,740 --> 03:17:38,200
And sometimes Adam, created by Danny Brunetti.

5692
03:17:38,320 --> 03:17:39,060
That's right, everybody.

5693
03:17:39,200 --> 03:17:41,060
That is the end of our broadcast day

5694
03:17:41,060 --> 03:17:44,060
for today for Sunday Funday, the 2nd of

5695
03:17:44,060 --> 03:17:44,460
February.

5696
03:17:44,960 --> 03:17:50,060
Grammy's tonight, so I'll be getting my, I'll

5697
03:17:50,060 --> 03:17:50,740
be getting my- Watch party.

5698
03:17:51,340 --> 03:17:52,460
Watch party.

5699
03:17:52,460 --> 03:17:54,840
And looking for the satanic messages.

5700
03:17:55,240 --> 03:17:56,460
That's right, that's exactly right.

5701
03:17:57,120 --> 03:18:00,160
The satanic messages, the Illuminati, you know they'll

5702
03:18:00,160 --> 03:18:00,740
all be there.

5703
03:18:00,900 --> 03:18:03,460
And Taylor Swift, it's always a party over

5704
03:18:03,460 --> 03:18:04,400
there at the Grammy's.

5705
03:18:05,880 --> 03:18:08,240
Coming up, we have end of show mixes,

5706
03:18:08,420 --> 03:18:11,200
Jesse Coyne Nelson and Tom Starkweather.

5707
03:18:11,700 --> 03:18:13,260
Two of Tom Starkweather, actually.

5708
03:18:13,560 --> 03:18:14,760
Brand new one at the end.

5709
03:18:15,460 --> 03:18:19,860
Coming up next on noagenda.stream and trollroom

5710
03:18:19,860 --> 03:18:22,640
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5711
03:18:22,640 --> 03:18:25,360
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5712
03:18:25,360 --> 03:18:26,160
every single week.

5713
03:18:26,360 --> 03:18:28,760
It's live on Wednesday, DH Unplugged.

5714
03:18:29,120 --> 03:18:31,000
And this is the episode where John and

5715
03:18:31,000 --> 03:18:32,720
Andrew talk about Cheap Seek.

5716
03:18:32,900 --> 03:18:34,020
Do not want to miss that.

5717
03:18:34,500 --> 03:18:35,880
Coming to you from the heart of the

5718
03:18:35,880 --> 03:18:38,400
Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, where

5719
03:18:38,400 --> 03:18:40,320
everybody is all happy and excited.

5720
03:18:40,860 --> 03:18:42,640
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

5721
03:18:43,180 --> 03:18:45,960
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the atmospheric

5722
03:18:45,960 --> 03:18:49,020
river is, oh, dud.

5723
03:18:49,160 --> 03:18:49,740
I'm John C.

5724
03:18:49,780 --> 03:18:50,180
Dvorak.

5725
03:18:50,180 --> 03:18:51,560
We return on Thursday.

5726
03:18:51,720 --> 03:18:52,560
Please join us then.

5727
03:18:52,700 --> 03:18:56,820
Remember us at noagendadonations.com, noagendadonations.com.

5728
03:18:56,900 --> 03:19:01,080
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and

5729
03:19:01,080 --> 03:19:01,520
such.

5730
03:19:01,660 --> 03:19:04,660
Republicans now getting cold feet on how to

5731
03:19:04,660 --> 03:19:07,300
handle the Mexico tariffs that the president vows

5732
03:19:07,300 --> 03:19:09,460
will go into effect next week.

5733
03:19:09,580 --> 03:19:12,000
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senator John

5734
03:19:12,000 --> 03:19:13,760
Corbyn, they want to talk to the president

5735
03:19:13,760 --> 03:19:14,280
in private.

5736
03:19:14,500 --> 03:19:17,420
Senators Chuck Grassley, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman, they're

5737
03:19:17,420 --> 03:19:19,740
contemplating legislation to stop the president.

5738
03:19:19,740 --> 03:19:22,200
And what do you think of Republicans who

5739
03:19:22,200 --> 03:19:23,960
say that they may take action to block

5740
03:19:23,960 --> 03:19:24,860
you imposing those tariffs?

5741
03:19:24,880 --> 03:19:26,060
No, I don't think they will do that.

5742
03:19:26,140 --> 03:19:27,540
I think if they do, it's foolish.

5743
03:19:27,880 --> 03:19:29,700
There's nothing more important than borders.

5744
03:19:30,060 --> 03:19:31,780
I've had tremendous Republican support.

5745
03:19:32,100 --> 03:19:34,800
I have a 90%, 94% approval rating.

5746
03:19:35,140 --> 03:19:39,620
I don't know much about Cinco de Mayo.

5747
03:19:39,900 --> 03:19:43,960
I'm never sure what it's all about.

5748
03:19:44,220 --> 03:19:46,700
In an open letter to President Trump, Mexico's

5749
03:19:46,700 --> 03:20:01,420
president wrote, in part, quote, These

5750
03:20:01,420 --> 03:20:04,620
Central American migrants are being chased by Mexican

5751
03:20:04,620 --> 03:20:05,760
immigration agents.

5752
03:20:06,360 --> 03:20:10,200
In coordination with federal police, immigration officials now

5753
03:20:10,200 --> 03:20:12,780
appear to be adopting a more aggressive approach.

5754
03:20:13,560 --> 03:20:15,460
He said, we're gonna put tariffs on Mexico.

5755
03:20:15,920 --> 03:20:17,520
Well, senators said, wait a minute.

5756
03:20:17,800 --> 03:20:18,000
Yeah.

5757
03:20:18,200 --> 03:20:19,820
Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole

5758
03:20:19,820 --> 03:20:21,720
lot of willingness to stand up to this

5759
03:20:21,720 --> 03:20:21,920
president.

5760
03:20:22,020 --> 03:20:24,160
He's got a 90% approval rating among

5761
03:20:24,160 --> 03:20:26,600
Republican voters, and all the Republican senators know

5762
03:20:26,600 --> 03:20:26,840
that.

5763
03:20:26,920 --> 03:20:28,860
And every month, those tariffs go from 5

5764
03:20:28,860 --> 03:20:31,480
% to 10% to 15% to

5765
03:20:31,480 --> 03:20:33,960
20 and then to 25%, hence the color

5766
03:20:33,960 --> 03:20:34,480
orange.

5767
03:20:34,840 --> 03:20:36,860
If tariffs is what it takes to get

5768
03:20:36,860 --> 03:20:39,400
Mexico to do better on their side of

5769
03:20:39,400 --> 03:20:40,880
the border, I'm all for tariffs.

5770
03:20:41,160 --> 03:20:45,740
Peddling in half-truths, peddling in false statements,

5771
03:20:46,060 --> 03:20:51,140
peddling in theories that, you know, create doubt

5772
03:20:51,140 --> 03:20:53,640
about whether or not things that we know

5773
03:20:53,640 --> 03:20:55,480
are safe are unsafe.

5774
03:20:55,840 --> 03:20:57,040
You frighten people.

5775
03:20:57,440 --> 03:21:01,600
In a gobsmacking statement of irresponsibility.

5776
03:21:01,840 --> 03:21:03,520
Almost all the members of this panel are

5777
03:21:03,520 --> 03:21:06,860
accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars

5778
03:21:06,860 --> 03:21:08,520
from the pharmaceutical industry.

5779
03:21:08,740 --> 03:21:09,560
Oh, no.

5780
03:21:09,580 --> 03:21:11,240
And protecting their interests.

5781
03:21:11,240 --> 03:21:13,880
Oh, I thought that that would.

5782
03:21:14,060 --> 03:21:14,360
No.

5783
03:21:14,760 --> 03:21:16,760
Are you supportive of these onesies?

5784
03:21:16,780 --> 03:21:18,140
I'm supportive of vaccines.

5785
03:21:18,680 --> 03:21:21,900
You are going to do such a solid

5786
03:21:21,900 --> 03:21:24,460
job for the people of this country.

5787
03:21:25,660 --> 03:21:27,020
How long does it keep going?

5788
03:21:27,340 --> 03:21:28,880
At some time, you're just battering the witness.

5789
03:21:29,200 --> 03:21:30,060
I'm not battering the witness.

5790
03:21:30,220 --> 03:21:31,020
Let's try to get an answer.

5791
03:21:31,420 --> 03:21:32,620
You're getting upset at him.

5792
03:21:32,700 --> 03:21:34,080
You're going at him just like anybody else

5793
03:21:34,080 --> 03:21:34,320
would.

5794
03:21:34,540 --> 03:21:35,620
We'll come to a...

5795
03:21:43,000 --> 03:21:44,640
Adios, mofo.

5796
03:21:47,240 --> 03:21:51,020
What a way to start a Sunday fun

5797
03:21:51,020 --> 03:21:51,380
day.