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Yeah, I saw the fly, I'm not buying

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Adam Currie, John C.

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Devorak.

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It's Thursday, March 20th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1748.

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This is no agenda.

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Suffering a constitutional crisis.

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And broadcasting live from the heart of the

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Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region Number

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6.

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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Currie.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where we discovered

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that the Aussie intelligence agencies were behind the

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cover-up of JFK's assassination.

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I'm John C.

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Devorak.

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I'm sorry, I crashed you.

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You were out of runway.

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I was.

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You were out of runway, man.

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I know.

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Sorry, just say I'm John C.

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Devorak and I'll edit it in.

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No one will know the difference.

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Right now?

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Yeah.

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I'm John C.

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Devorak.

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It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.

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No one will know.

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There will be no edit.

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You're right.

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You are correct, sir.

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There will never be an edit.

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Editing is no fun.

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It's just not fun.

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No, that's the point.

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I don't want to deal with that.

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Well, the files are out and we now

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know Elvis is alive.

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Well, they're not completely out.

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We have to remember that the third are

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still missing.

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Yeah.

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You know what?

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I have to be honest with you.

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I really don't care.

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There's nothing earth shattering.

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I mean, half the people say the Russians

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knew it.

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They told the CIA.

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The CIA didn't.

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You know, they covered it up.

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The Jews did it.

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I mean, it's everything is everything out there.

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Yeah, it depends on who you want it.

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Well, no, I mean, of course, it depends

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on what you look at.

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But it's like there's no conclusive evidence.

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Do you mind if I just play the

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one clip I have, which is from the

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CIA broadcast systems?

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Which would be the only ones you'd be

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interested in in their report for this particular

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matter.

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After more than six decades of waiting, several

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thousand new pieces of history now in America's

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hands.

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They've been waiting for that for decades.

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And I said during the campaign, I do

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it.

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And I am a man of my word.

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On Tuesday, the Trump administration released thousands of

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unredacted files related to the assassination of President

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John F.

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Kennedy in 1963 in Dallas.

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Most of the files are now posted on

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the National Archives website, sharing important details about

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Lee Harvey Oswald, who investigators say was JFK's

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assassin.

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Even ones detailing Oswald's movement in Mexico and

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the Soviet Union months before the assassination.

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What could be major but won't be what

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the public's expecting is information that the CIA

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knew more about what an unhinged character Lee

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Harvey Oswald was only six weeks before the

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assassination.

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Author Gerald Posner wrote the book Case Closed,

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one of the first publications to state Oswald

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alone killed the president.

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He says these files are not a smoking

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gun, but still important.

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I think that it became part of Dallas's

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DNA.

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It was associated with Dallas in a way

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that other assassinations have not been.

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According to FBI expert and JFK historian Ferris

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much broader picture of intelligence involvement in monitoring,

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downplaying and concealing critical information about Oswald and

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the JFK assassination.

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The FBI and CIA had pre-assassination intelligence

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on Oswald's activities, but chose not to act

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and later engaged in deliberate efforts to mislead

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official investigations.

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The CIA is leading us down their path,

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I guess.

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Of course, that's what you do.

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I have two clips.

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JFK, this is from NTD.

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Oh, well, that is quality guaranteed.

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The Trump administration releases the JFK files, making

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good on the president's campaign promise.

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NTD correspondent Jason Blair gives us a snapshot

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of the release.

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I think it's the same guy who I

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just had in my clip, the Jason Blair

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I could be wrong.

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The Trump administration released the files on Tuesday.

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They contain about roughly 60 to 80,000

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And some of these files have been released

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before.

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However, there was a lot of information redacted.

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And this batch appears to have much of

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that redacted information.

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And this is something that President Trump said

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that he wanted.

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So people have been waiting for decades for

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this.

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I don't believe we're going to redact anything.

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I said, just don't redact.

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You can't redact.

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And you'll make your own determination.

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The files have been released on the U

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.S. National Archives website.

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And it could possibly be weeks before we

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know for sure if there are any bombshell

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revelations in the JFK case.

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So far, there are new details coming out,

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with a lot of stuff still being discovered.

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For example, there is information detailing how the

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CIA went about tapping telephones in Mexico City

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to monitor communications between the Soviets and Cubans

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at their diplomatic facilities.

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Which these facilities are where Kennedy assassin Lee

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Harvey Oswald visited in the months leading up

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to the assassination.

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There's also instructions detailing CIA operatives on how

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to wiretap.

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And there's new info on covert activities in

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Cuba targeting revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.

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And there's been some buzz on a previously

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released note going around again on social media.

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This allegedly was written by JFK's son, JFK

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Jr., in 1994 to then-Senator Biden.

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In the letter, he called Biden a traitor.

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Reportedly, the FBI did investigate this and wasn't

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able to confirm that the letter was really

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written by JFK Jr. I think that was

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the Easter egg they put in there.

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Let's just put a little fun thing in

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here, shall we?

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Let's do a little...

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Oh, I'm sure there's more than one.

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Something a little fun.

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Yeah, yeah.

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A lot of statecraft.

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CIA wanted Israel redacted.

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You know, it really is the biggest ever

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in all show history.

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The distraction of the week on the old

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agenda, the over there.

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Heaven forbid we bring out the Epstein files.

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Oh, no, we can't do that.

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So let's play part two of this.

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A court has blocked that part of Trump's

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order for now.

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Still, Cameradela says the problem is...

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Nobody really understands what illegal DEI means.

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He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law

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has changed.

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What's this?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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It's completely the wrong clip.

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I don't know.

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I don't know how that happened.

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I'm sorry.

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JFK's grandson, Jack Schlossberg, reacted to the...

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I was wondering why DEI was in the

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JFK files.

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...release criticizing networks for covering it.

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He wrote on social media, quote, You don't

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need to cover the fake JFK documents story,

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especially when there's so much real news.

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Oh, there you go.

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JFK's nephew, RFK Jr., who is the current

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Secretary of Health and Human Services, has frequently

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been a supporter of the release of these

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files.

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He has previously said, quote, A government that

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withholds information is inherently fearful of its citizens'

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ability to make informed decisions and participate actively

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in democracy.

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So you're telling me that there's another tranche

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yet to be released or will never be

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released?

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According to a guy that showed up on

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Jesse Waters, he says one third of the

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files are missing.

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And by the way, the Schlossberg character who

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condemned the JFK Jr. commentary where he called

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Biden a...

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and he's a Kennedy, I guess, where he

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called Biden a traitor.

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Who cares?

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Why is he so...

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somebody...

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why is he defending Biden in any situation

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like this anyway?

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It's beyond me.

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The whole thing is kind of dumb.

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But yeah, it's a distraction, but at the

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same time, it's a good...

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it's fun.

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These guys, there's these threads all over Twitter

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that go on forever.

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My favorite is...

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And there's redactions all over the place.

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Who are we kidding here?

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I love it when people throw it into

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Grok.

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Come on, Grok, tell me who killed JFK.

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Grok has done nothing.

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Grok can't even draw a Grok face.

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Grok is a front for the CIA.

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People have asked Grok, they always says that

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the documents prove that Oswald was the lone

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assassin when it comes up with it.

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I've been noticing this more and more.

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People I respect will say, well, I looked

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it up on Grok, or I looked it

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up on ChatGPT.

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I'm like, I can't talk to you.

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You looked it up on ChatGPT?

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That means it's right?

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What do you think this is?

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It's like, did you look at the sources?

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Did you just take that for whatever ChatGPT

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said is true?

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It's concerning.

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I have used these systems a lot, and

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I get the biggest kick out of the

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fact that if you use more than one,

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in other words, you don't ask Grok, you

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ask Grok.

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Oh, you get different answers.

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You get different answers.

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Of course.

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And if that doesn't tell you that, well,

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I don't know here.

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Why is that giving me a different answer?

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The question is, what are you doing in

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this moment?

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What?

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What are you doing in this moment?

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Oh, the in this moment.

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Yes, yes, I had that.

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Did I get the in this?

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I got it for you.

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The strength that we have is in this

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moment.

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Listen to your constituents.

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Center them in this moment.

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But I can tell you that there are

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a lot of people that are watching his

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leadership in this moment.

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This is the moment.

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No, I think about what's happening in this

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moment.

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What's important is that we meet this moment.

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So are these current Democrats the ones to

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meet the moment?

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Meet the moment.

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What do you want to see us doing

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right now in this moment?

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And which Democrats are actually going to stand

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up against Elon Musk and Donald Trump in

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this moment?

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The fight that you all are exhibiting is

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not just what the base wants, but it's

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what this moment requires.

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In this moment.

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OK, well, let's see.

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You got that.

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I have.

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I had the same clip.

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You did.

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It's a super cut of in this moment.

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Let's try to figure out why.

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What?

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What is this all about?

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It's about this moment.

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It's this very moment in history.

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This time.

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It's kind of like in the morning.

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What is the op here?

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What is they what are they trying to

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accomplish with by dropping this in this moment

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into every conversation?

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I mean, what is it supposed to do?

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I think it's I think it's an NLP

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psyche.

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It's an NLP trick.

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It's like what I don't I don't really

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know.

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It just it's noticeable in this very noticeable.

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But I just when I first ran into

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it, I I'm thinking.

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What are you trying to do?

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Are you guys that lost?

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Well, I mean, or is it code to

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show that you're on the same team?

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Maybe I mean.

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It's it baffles me.

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OK, hold on a second.

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I'm going to ask chat GPT.

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They will tell me that's cheap.

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The phrase here we go.

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Here we go.

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You grok it.

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The phrase do the phrase in this moment

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can be relevant to NLP neuro linguistic programming

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in a couple of ways.

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Yes, money.

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What was the what question?

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Oh, my question is, how is in this

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moment in NLP?

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Of course, I had to prompt it.

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I just want to make sure we're coming

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out of the blue with that mindfulness and

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presence.

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NLP often emphasizes the power of being fully

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present language, patterns and patterns and reframing.

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Are they just throwing that in state management?

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Oh, I like that.

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The concept of state refers to one's mental,

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emotional and physiological condition.

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Practitioners often use phrases like in this moment

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to guide individuals into a more resourceful state

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by directing attention to their current feelings.

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And I think that's true.

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That is probably what it is.

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That's probably straight from the NLP guidebook.

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It's like in this moment.

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So when you're watching anything.

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Oh, my God, what's happening in this moment?

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Let me feel let me let me feel

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inside myself.

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I don't feel good in this moment.

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How do you feel in this moment?

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Maybe, maybe.

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Well, I can't figure out what these guys

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are up to at all.

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Well, in this moment, I think the real

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in this moment is what's happening in Europe.

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They have gone collectively nuts.

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I mean, like, really all out warmonger.

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Let's just not pussyfoot around it.

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Let's spend the money.

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Let's go into debt.

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We need the war machine.

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A road map to rearmament.

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On Wednesday in Brussels, European commissioners laid out

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their 800 billion euro plan to make Europe

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an independent defense power.

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450 million European Union citizens should not have

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to depend on 340 million Americans.

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OK, that's fine.

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To defend ourselves against 140 million Russians who

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cannot defeat 38 million Ukrainians.

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Ideas already tutored by commission.

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How arrogant is that?

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He said 420 million Europeans should not have

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to reply, rely on 340 million Americans to

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defeat 140 million Russians who can't even defeat

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8 million Ukrainians.

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That's because they haven't used their 20,000

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nuclear weapons yet, you tool.

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Defeats 38 million Ukrainians.

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Ideas already tutored by Commission President von DeLayen

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in recent weeks.

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The commission believes 650 billion euros could be

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raised block wide if member states are given

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more latitude in their budgetary rules and laid

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out on Wednesday plans for the 150 billion

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euro security action for Europe or safe fund.

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The EU would take out loans in its

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own name and issue loans to member states

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making joint purchases of defense equipment, an approach

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aimed at promoting interoperability between member states' militaries.

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The instrument also hopes to stimulate homegrown defense

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industries with 65% of funds ring fenced

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to be spent in the EU, Norway and

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Ukraine.

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Companies in third countries like the US, UK

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and Turkey could benefit too, but subject to

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conditions.

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Other partner countries' entities and products can be

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eligible for common procurements subject to an agreement

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with the union on financial conditions and security

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of supply.

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All right, so we get 40% of

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that, so roughly 300 billion euros.

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We'll take it.

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And meanwhile, where we heard on the last

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show that Volkswagen is retooling one of their

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closed factories to make bombs.

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The Belgians and other car manufacturers, they're like,

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this is a great idea.

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57,000 square meters of industrial space here

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in Brussels is currently at a standstill.

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But what if this huge Audi factory became

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a weapons factory?

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That's the idea put forward by the Belgian

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defense minister in the wake of European plans

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to rearm Europe.

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There's a factory that's no longer in use

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with an industrial base that's super easy to

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convert to the defense industry.

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For example, for light armored vehicles and for

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other possibilities, including drone production, many Belgian companies

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are interested.

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I bet they are.

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Since no one's buying the cars, apparently they're

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shutting down.

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But the worst, John, the worst came from

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Queen Ursula, who traveled to Denmark, very strategic,

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of course, because what do we know about

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Denmark?

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They still think they own Greenland.

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So she went to Denmark.

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She goes to a military academy and talks

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to the cadets.

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She doesn't say cadets.

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She says cadets.

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And she starts off by saying, what is

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the best way to avoid war?

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If you were to give a recommendation, if

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the Currie-Dvorak Consulting Group were to give

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a recommendation, how do you avoid war?

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Well, I think you negotiate, you do avoid

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war.

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You try to keep open communications between various

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possible war advocates or not advocates, but people

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that you might have a beef with.

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Boy, you couldn't have been more off base.

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That is not how you avoid war.

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And this historic academy is one of the

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reasons I chose Denmark to speak about security

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and to make the case that if Europe

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wants to avoid war, Europe must get ready

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for war.

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You want to avoid war by getting ready

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for war.

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Well, that's not quite the way I would

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have done it.

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This is insanity.

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And Denmark is acutely aware of its own

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security.

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Poor Denmark.

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Oh, yeah.

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And these poor kids sitting there.

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Not least.

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Denmark's a small country that, you know, just

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gets caught up in this stuff.

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They don't really have any at this point

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in history.

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They're just they should stay.

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They should be like smart money.

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Switzerland, which just stays out of these conflicts.

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No, no.

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Instead, it will hold your money.

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Hey, hey, we'll hold your beer while you

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two guys fight the cannon fodder kids over

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there.

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Not least because of its unique strategic geography,

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but also because of recent events.

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I'm, of course, talking about the ongoing war

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in Ukraine and conflicts and other theaters, but

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also the repeated and continued attacks on critical

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infrastructure in the Baltic Sea.

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And, of course, the ongoing competition for influence

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in the Arctic region, including Greenland.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So, yeah, that's why she's there, including Greenland.

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And the war economy is coming back.

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Of course, Russia, they can't even turn back

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if they wanted to.

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No way.

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And we are we just deserting them.

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The security architecture that we relied on can

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no longer be taken for granted.

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The age of spheres of influence and power

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competition is well and truly back.

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Just take Russia.

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We already know its determination to deny other

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countries their right to choose their own path.

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And now Russia is on an irreversible path.

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Irreversible.

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They can't turn back.

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It's irreversible.

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Irreversible.

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To creating a pure war economy.

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It has massively expended its military industrial production

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capacity.

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Forty percent of the federal budget is spent

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on defense, nine percent of its GDP.

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And this investment fuels its war of aggression

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in Ukraine while preparing it for future confrontation

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with European democracies.

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There's no evidence of this.

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She's making this up as she goes along.

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And just as these threats increase, we see

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our oldest partner, the United States, move their

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focus to the Indo-Pacific.

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Well, yeah, there's that.

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We're building a big, beautiful ship.

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She got that part right.

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So what exactly does this war economy entail?

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What are you going to spend all of

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this money on, Ursula?

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That means large scale pan-European cooperation to

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address gaps in priority areas.

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That starts with fundamentals like infrastructure and military

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mobility.

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By 2030, we need a functioning EU wide

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network of land corridors, airports and seaports to

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facilitate the fast transport of troops and military

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equipment.

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At the same time, we need to invest

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in air and missile defense, artillery systems, ammunition

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and missiles.

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And we have to learn the lessons from

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the battlefield and the changing nature of modern

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warfare.

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We have seen the importance of drones and

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00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:44,450
counter drone systems in Ukraine.

557
00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:47,550
And Europe needs to develop all types of

558
00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:51,290
unmanned systems and the advanced software and sensors

559
00:20:51,290 --> 00:20:52,090
behind them.

560
00:20:52,330 --> 00:20:54,910
And the same goes for cyber and using

561
00:20:54,910 --> 00:20:58,470
military artificial intelligence or quantum computing.

562
00:21:01,810 --> 00:21:03,950
You can put that in your shaggy dog

563
00:21:03,950 --> 00:21:04,750
story now.

564
00:21:05,290 --> 00:21:09,390
Oh yeah, that's where your money's going, people.

565
00:21:09,550 --> 00:21:10,270
Quantum computing.

566
00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:12,850
But then the final clip, the final clip

567
00:21:12,850 --> 00:21:15,870
is really what this comes down to because

568
00:21:15,870 --> 00:21:19,290
it's all just about getting Ukraine and just

569
00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:22,650
making Ukraine European or NATO or whatever we

570
00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:23,350
want to make it.

571
00:21:23,570 --> 00:21:26,550
And this strategy has a name.

572
00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:29,850
Ladies and gentlemen, the third priority for European

573
00:21:29,850 --> 00:21:32,750
defense is perhaps the most strategic.

574
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:36,350
And that is increasing support for Ukraine.

575
00:21:36,790 --> 00:21:40,070
This is what we call the steel porcupine

576
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:40,530
strategy.

577
00:21:40,770 --> 00:21:43,910
Yeah, baby, steel porcupine.

578
00:21:45,870 --> 00:21:49,690
The steel porcupine, but the steel porcupine strategy.

579
00:21:49,730 --> 00:21:52,170
Yes, it's the steel porcupine strategy.

580
00:21:52,170 --> 00:21:53,250
And she will explain.

581
00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:56,430
This is what we call the steel porcupine

582
00:21:56,430 --> 00:21:59,950
strategy, because we need to make Ukraine strong

583
00:21:59,950 --> 00:22:03,850
enough to be absolutely indigestible for any potential

584
00:22:03,850 --> 00:22:04,350
invader.

585
00:22:04,790 --> 00:22:06,810
You see, if someone wants to eat the

586
00:22:06,810 --> 00:22:10,090
steel porcupine, then the steel spikes will stick

587
00:22:10,090 --> 00:22:11,450
out of your throat and your stomach.

588
00:22:11,690 --> 00:22:13,230
This is it's indigestible.

589
00:22:13,610 --> 00:22:15,730
Ukraine will be a steel porcupine.

590
00:22:15,850 --> 00:22:18,030
So we need to invest in Ukraine's strength

591
00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:21,110
in deterrence through denial.

592
00:22:21,630 --> 00:22:23,190
We have done a lot already.

593
00:22:23,790 --> 00:22:24,750
We have supported you.

594
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:26,070
They're in denial, all right.

595
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:27,750
Deterrence through denial.

596
00:22:28,730 --> 00:22:31,290
In deterrence through denial.

597
00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:33,330
We have done a lot already.

598
00:22:33,870 --> 00:22:36,890
We have supported Ukraine with about 50 billion

599
00:22:36,890 --> 00:22:40,150
euros in military support alone and trained more

600
00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:43,250
than 73,000 Ukrainian troops.

601
00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:45,990
And our support for Ukraine's accession to the

602
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:48,790
European Union remains as strong as ever.

603
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:50,850
But there is a lot more that we

604
00:22:50,850 --> 00:22:51,210
can do.

605
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:52,070
Oh, yes.

606
00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:52,890
So much more.

607
00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:54,010
They're crazy, John.

608
00:22:54,090 --> 00:22:55,310
They're completely nuts.

609
00:22:56,430 --> 00:22:57,750
She wants war.

610
00:22:57,910 --> 00:22:59,310
She just wants war.

611
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:02,530
I don't see any other way to look

612
00:23:02,530 --> 00:23:02,910
at it.

613
00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:04,790
Yeah, that's what she wants.

614
00:23:08,850 --> 00:23:10,610
How do you get that way?

615
00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:13,770
Adrenochrome.

616
00:23:13,890 --> 00:23:17,330
Meanwhile, let's play this clip before we continue,

617
00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:21,990
which is the Ukraine energy fiasco.

618
00:23:22,170 --> 00:23:22,410
Yeah.

619
00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:23,050
NTD?

620
00:23:23,230 --> 00:23:23,390
Yeah.

621
00:23:23,390 --> 00:23:26,570
Ukraine now agrees to a partial ceasefire with

622
00:23:26,570 --> 00:23:29,450
Russia after President Trump speaks with Ukrainian President

623
00:23:29,450 --> 00:23:30,450
Volodymyr Zelensky.

624
00:23:30,790 --> 00:23:32,930
But as Trump says the two countries are

625
00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:35,950
on track for a ceasefire, overnight strikes raise

626
00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:38,630
questions about enforcement of a truce.

627
00:23:39,290 --> 00:23:41,090
Joining us now live is NTD's White House

628
00:23:41,090 --> 00:23:42,490
correspondent Iris Tao.

629
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:43,350
Good evening, Iris.

630
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:46,030
What are the biggest takeaways from Trump's call

631
00:23:46,030 --> 00:23:47,030
with Zelensky today?

632
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:48,290
Good evening to you, Tiff.

633
00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:50,950
So the hour-long call between President Trump

634
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:53,730
and Zelensky today yielded a few major things.

635
00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:57,170
One, Zelensky now agrees to a temporary energy

636
00:23:57,170 --> 00:24:00,470
ceasefire after Trump just yesterday got Putin to

637
00:24:00,470 --> 00:24:02,830
agree to one also over a long phone

638
00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:03,070
call.

639
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:05,630
And two, we might be seeing a new

640
00:24:05,630 --> 00:24:07,730
deal coming out between the U.S. and

641
00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:08,130
Ukraine.

642
00:24:08,410 --> 00:24:09,970
The White House says President Trump today in

643
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:12,450
the call suggested to Zelensky that the U

644
00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:14,670
.S. can help Ukraine run some of its

645
00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:16,530
power plants, and that is to give them

646
00:24:16,530 --> 00:24:18,910
some protection of their energy infrastructure.

647
00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:22,810
President Trump also discussed Ukraine's electrical supply and

648
00:24:22,810 --> 00:24:23,950
nuclear power plants.

649
00:24:24,370 --> 00:24:26,010
He said that the United States could be

650
00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:28,130
very helpful in running those plants with its

651
00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:30,190
electricity and utility expertise.

652
00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:32,930
American ownership of those plants would be the

653
00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:35,590
best protection for that infrastructure and support for

654
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:37,190
Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

655
00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:38,770
Here's what I don't understand.

656
00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:42,550
The M5M is emphatic about pronouncing Turkey as

657
00:24:42,550 --> 00:24:44,930
Turkey-ay, Kyiv as Kyiv.

658
00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:47,570
But when it comes to Putin, it's Putin.

659
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:50,090
Pooing, I'm just pooing.

660
00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:54,390
Or as Mark Levin calls him, Putin.

661
00:24:54,610 --> 00:24:55,470
Oh, Putin, yeah.

662
00:24:55,610 --> 00:24:57,690
I've heard Putin by more than a few

663
00:24:57,690 --> 00:24:58,090
people.

664
00:24:58,350 --> 00:24:59,710
Yeah, that's probably part of it.

665
00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:01,610
Which, of course, I believe is just a

666
00:25:01,610 --> 00:25:08,670
subconscious way of implying it's Rasputin, Putin.

667
00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:14,490
I have a funny NPR foreign clip which

668
00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:17,470
just, like, it made no sense when I

669
00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:18,190
heard this one.

670
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:18,850
Listen to this.

671
00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:21,450
Live from NPR News in Washington, I'm Korva

672
00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:21,810
Coleman.

673
00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:25,170
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he plans to

674
00:25:25,170 --> 00:25:31,130
talk with President Trump today by

675
00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:35,430
phone.

676
00:25:35,850 --> 00:25:38,330
This comes after Trump spoke yesterday with Russian

677
00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:39,710
President Vladimir Putin.

678
00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:42,270
The Russian leader says his country will agree

679
00:25:42,270 --> 00:25:45,710
to stop targeting Ukrainian energy facilities for 30

680
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:46,190
days.

681
00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:49,430
But Ukrainian officials say Russia is still firing

682
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:52,390
drones at them, even hitting two hospitals overnight.

683
00:25:52,990 --> 00:25:55,890
NPR's Eleanor Beardsley says that the conversation between

684
00:25:55,890 --> 00:25:58,730
Trump and Putin has gotten Europe's attention.

685
00:25:59,090 --> 00:26:00,910
This is deeply shaking the continent.

686
00:26:01,070 --> 00:26:02,690
There's a view that Putin is stalling so

687
00:26:02,690 --> 00:26:04,110
he can continue the war and that he's

688
00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:06,770
playing with Trump, who Europeans believe is naive,

689
00:26:06,970 --> 00:26:08,650
has no experience with Putin, and wants a

690
00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:10,090
peace deal so badly he'll do anything.

691
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:11,270
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

692
00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,290
You can't have it both ways, NPR.

693
00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:16,430
You can't say that he's a puppet of

694
00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:19,830
Putin, that there's Russian collusion, and then say

695
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:21,930
he has no experience with Putin.

696
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:26,490
They're contradicting themselves now.

697
00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:28,690
They don't know what to do.

698
00:26:29,530 --> 00:26:31,070
They're warmongers too.

699
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:31,790
They are.

700
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:36,830
Who is the host of PBS NewsHour these

701
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:37,170
days?

702
00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:39,750
What is the format of the NewsHour?

703
00:26:42,150 --> 00:26:45,390
The format is they bring, there's a woman

704
00:26:45,390 --> 00:26:49,470
with kind of a multicultural woman and various

705
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:52,410
guys, usually a black gay guy.

706
00:26:52,530 --> 00:26:53,750
Is it, oh, Capehart?

707
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:54,190
No.

708
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:55,210
No, no, no.

709
00:26:55,270 --> 00:26:56,670
Capehart is a commentator.

710
00:26:57,010 --> 00:26:57,210
No.

711
00:26:57,550 --> 00:27:00,390
Is the manhands lady on the NewsHour?

712
00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:05,110
No, the manhands lady, that's Kirsten Welker.

713
00:27:05,270 --> 00:27:07,670
She's on NBC, Need to Press.

714
00:27:07,670 --> 00:27:14,790
I found a NewsHour bit from 1994 about,

715
00:27:14,830 --> 00:27:17,270
now this is about NATO expansion.

716
00:27:18,510 --> 00:27:20,470
And it was, well, he calls it a

717
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:21,030
debate.

718
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:22,630
It wasn't really a debate.

719
00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:27,670
And the so-called debate is between the

720
00:27:27,670 --> 00:27:31,650
former ambassador to Russia, Matlock, and Henry Kissinger.

721
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:37,430
And listen to the difference in PBS NewsHour

722
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:39,890
from what we know it today and what

723
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:41,530
it was in 1994.

724
00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:49,190
First tonight, the debate over expanding the North

725
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:52,090
Atlantic Treaty Alliance to several countries in Central

726
00:27:52,090 --> 00:27:52,430
Europe.

727
00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:55,030
The debate flared today at the European Security

728
00:27:55,030 --> 00:27:58,210
and Cooperation Summit in speeches by President Clinton

729
00:27:58,210 --> 00:27:59,790
and Russian President Yeltsin.

730
00:27:59,790 --> 00:28:02,410
Since the collapse of communism in Central Europe,

731
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:04,810
there have been proposals and debate over whether

732
00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:08,190
and how to expand NATO, which now guarantees

733
00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:11,770
mutual protection for 16 Western nations in Europe

734
00:28:11,770 --> 00:28:13,610
and the U.S. and Canada to such

735
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:16,810
countries as Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and

736
00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:17,430
Slovakia.

737
00:28:17,610 --> 00:28:20,210
Today at the so-called CSCE Summit in

738
00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:23,530
Budapest, President Yeltsin repeated his country's opposition to

739
00:28:23,530 --> 00:28:24,070
that idea.

740
00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:26,490
He warned of a cold peace and said

741
00:28:26,490 --> 00:28:28,410
the world could not be run from one

742
00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:30,410
capital, a reference to Washington and the U

743
00:28:30,410 --> 00:28:32,690
.S. But the issue of NATO expansion has

744
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:34,950
also divided American officials and analysts.

745
00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:36,770
We take up the story with two of

746
00:28:36,770 --> 00:28:39,490
them, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and

747
00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:41,870
Jack Matlock, former U.S. ambassador to the

748
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:45,190
Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia, now a professor at

749
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:46,170
Columbia University.

750
00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:49,270
I found this to be fascinating because it's

751
00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,390
not even that long ago.

752
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:51,410
What is it, 30 years?

753
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:52,710
1994?

754
00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:53,970
Yeah.

755
00:28:54,370 --> 00:28:56,910
And these countries hadn't come into NATO yet.

756
00:28:57,210 --> 00:29:00,070
And already the Russian president was saying, hey,

757
00:29:00,150 --> 00:29:02,010
hey, hey, no, no, no, no, no.

758
00:29:02,770 --> 00:29:05,130
And but no, that doesn't matter.

759
00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:05,810
We don't care.

760
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:08,310
Starting with you, Ambassador Matlock, the Russians are

761
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:10,750
clearly very unhappy about the prospect of expanding

762
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:11,150
NATO.

763
00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:12,230
Let's start with this.

764
00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:15,250
Actually, what is the U.S. policy right

765
00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:15,490
now?

766
00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:18,750
How quickly is the Clinton administration pushing to

767
00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:21,130
expand NATO from what you can read?

768
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:21,570
Clinton.

769
00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:24,650
My understanding is that their position is that

770
00:29:24,650 --> 00:29:26,770
the East European should be prepared for NATO.

771
00:29:27,270 --> 00:29:30,090
And though no date has been set, that

772
00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:32,810
the question is not if, but when.

773
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:36,470
And NATO itself recently, just for background here,

774
00:29:36,670 --> 00:29:40,150
recently voted to come up within a year

775
00:29:40,150 --> 00:29:43,270
with a list of sort of conditions for

776
00:29:43,270 --> 00:29:44,590
membership or potential members.

777
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:46,930
So the issue is moving forward, as you

778
00:29:46,930 --> 00:29:47,510
understand it.

779
00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:48,030
Is that correct?

780
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:50,330
The issue is moving forward.

781
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:52,950
But we have to be careful not to

782
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:56,710
trap ourselves in an endless waffle when we

783
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:58,830
say the issue is not if, but when.

784
00:29:59,210 --> 00:30:02,010
The responsibility of national leaders is not to

785
00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:04,250
ask rhetorical questions, but to answer them.

786
00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:06,210
So we have an obligation to give some

787
00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:08,330
sort of an answer to when.

788
00:30:09,170 --> 00:30:11,810
And the Russians are not unhappy about the

789
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:12,150
timing.

790
00:30:12,350 --> 00:30:13,710
They're unhappy about the fact.

791
00:30:13,890 --> 00:30:14,530
About the fact.

792
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:16,970
And therefore, we ought to face that as

793
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:17,850
early as possible.

794
00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:21,030
So the Russians were unhappy about the fact

795
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:24,410
at all while we collectively were already talking

796
00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:25,430
about doing it.

797
00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:27,310
But who was really pushing it?

798
00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:28,710
This answer was surprising.

799
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:31,610
Well, where is the pressure, as you understand

800
00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:34,810
it, Jack Matlock, where is the pressure coming

801
00:30:34,810 --> 00:30:38,410
from for quick expansion inside NATO, inside?

802
00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:41,230
We know that certain Eastern European or Central

803
00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:43,730
European countries like Poland would love to be

804
00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:44,430
a member quickly.

805
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:46,470
But where is it coming from with inside

806
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:46,770
NATO?

807
00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:48,810
Well, my understanding is that the Germans have

808
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:51,630
been sort of the principal advocates within NATO.

809
00:30:52,270 --> 00:30:54,430
They're joined by certain others.

810
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:58,990
I'm one who feels that we while we

811
00:30:58,990 --> 00:31:01,970
should leave the possibility open, that we should

812
00:31:01,970 --> 00:31:05,870
make clear that we would back expansion only

813
00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:08,150
if there is a threat which needs to

814
00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:08,630
be met.

815
00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:11,490
In other words, we should use it to

816
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:13,870
pressure the Russians to ease off on the

817
00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:16,310
rhetoric and to behave in a manner which

818
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:18,070
does not threaten the one.

819
00:31:18,270 --> 00:31:21,330
Another problem here is that the I think

820
00:31:21,330 --> 00:31:23,210
it's much more important for the Poles, the

821
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:25,290
Czechs and the other East Europeans to get

822
00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:26,350
in the European Union.

823
00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:27,870
This is important economically.

824
00:31:28,090 --> 00:31:28,970
They need the markets.

825
00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:31,070
And I suspect that some Europeans look at

826
00:31:31,070 --> 00:31:33,390
NATO as almost a surrogate for doing what

827
00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:35,710
would be a more difficult matter for them,

828
00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:37,690
and that is opening their markets to them.

829
00:31:38,050 --> 00:31:39,430
I thought that to be interesting.

830
00:31:39,890 --> 00:31:40,830
That was interesting.

831
00:31:40,930 --> 00:31:42,750
In fact, well, this goes back to this

832
00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:43,430
period.

833
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:44,190
That was Rob.

834
00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:45,690
That was Robert McNeil.

835
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:47,550
Yes, that was the host there.

836
00:31:47,650 --> 00:31:49,510
And that was during the era when it

837
00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:51,070
was called before was NewsHour.

838
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,330
It was called the McNeil-Lehrer Report.

839
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:56,190
And that's those are two guys that came

840
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:59,190
from mainstream media over to PBS to set

841
00:31:59,190 --> 00:32:02,590
up shops because they felt that the half

842
00:32:02,590 --> 00:32:06,610
-hour news shows on network TV, which was

843
00:32:06,610 --> 00:32:08,430
no good with this, no good.

844
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:10,090
So they figured an hour with a little

845
00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:12,610
more thoughtful discussion would be better.

846
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:15,850
Not knowing that giving an hour away like

847
00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:18,410
that or creating this hour show after they

848
00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:22,970
left both McNeil and Lehrer, it turned except

849
00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:25,670
during that short period when Gwen Ifill was

850
00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:27,270
there and she kept it in play.

851
00:32:27,690 --> 00:32:29,450
And then it just became a left-wing

852
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:30,690
bunch of stooges.

853
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:34,930
So I thought it was interesting that Europe

854
00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:38,530
was cobbling together what they're now completing, the

855
00:32:38,530 --> 00:32:42,370
European Union project, and that they really saw

856
00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:45,170
NATO, a war machine, as a way to

857
00:32:45,170 --> 00:32:45,890
get that going.

858
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:50,310
And luckily, last clip, former Ambassador Matlock reminds

859
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:53,150
us that we made some promises about NATO

860
00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:53,710
expansion.

861
00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:55,850
There is one other factor here that we

862
00:32:55,850 --> 00:32:56,790
seem to be forgetting.

863
00:32:57,150 --> 00:32:58,830
And we did, though it was not a

864
00:32:58,830 --> 00:33:02,650
legally binding assurance, we gave categorical assurances to

865
00:33:02,650 --> 00:33:05,410
Gorbachev back when the Soviet Union existed that

866
00:33:05,410 --> 00:33:07,170
if a united Germany was able to stay

867
00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:09,590
in NATO, NATO would not be moved eastward.

868
00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:11,690
And, you know, I think that the current

869
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:13,130
Russian government is very clear.

870
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:14,290
So we would be.

871
00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:16,450
But but that that assurance was given to

872
00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:17,250
the Soviet Union.

873
00:33:17,290 --> 00:33:17,830
That is right.

874
00:33:17,950 --> 00:33:19,090
It is not a legally binding.

875
00:33:19,270 --> 00:33:23,210
That's that's that's their their their their loophole.

876
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:25,610
Well, we gave that assurance to the Soviet

877
00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:27,070
Union, not to Russia.

878
00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:28,830
You see, it's very, very different thing.

879
00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:31,410
But it was, you might say, a geopolitical

880
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:31,730
deal.

881
00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:34,750
And if we simply ignore it, then I

882
00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:36,750
certainly if I were a Russian, it would

883
00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:38,690
be hard for me to interpret this, even

884
00:33:38,690 --> 00:33:40,090
though it may not be intended that way.

885
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:40,730
And it is not.

886
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:43,370
And now you can hear Kissinger talking about

887
00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:44,550
those pesky Russians.

888
00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:47,190
They're stopping the American war machine from doing

889
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:49,870
important work as anything less than an attempt

890
00:33:49,870 --> 00:33:52,470
to shut Russia off from Eastern Europe.

891
00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:54,330
And that was that was a line that

892
00:33:54,330 --> 00:33:57,270
that Yeltsin used today, that it would isolate

893
00:33:57,270 --> 00:33:58,250
Russia.

894
00:33:58,610 --> 00:34:01,710
And so the seeds of discord.

895
00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:03,710
But here's a country that has 20,000

896
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:04,570
nuclear weapons.

897
00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:08,190
The possibility that Poland would start marching into

898
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:09,310
Russia is zero.

899
00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:12,429
And I repeat, this is not in terms

900
00:34:12,429 --> 00:34:15,389
of political architecture conceived as a Cold War

901
00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:18,850
situation, because Russia can participate in the European

902
00:34:18,850 --> 00:34:21,909
Security Council in all the political issues.

903
00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:23,889
But one has to keep in mind what

904
00:34:23,889 --> 00:34:26,070
a weak Russia has done in the last

905
00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:26,630
few months.

906
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:30,270
When we were assembling forces against Iraq a

907
00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,370
few weeks ago, when we were assembling forces

908
00:34:33,370 --> 00:34:35,909
in Iraq a few weeks ago, really, back

909
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:37,570
in 1994 already, huh?

910
00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:38,310
Yeah, of course.

911
00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:39,550
Russia said no.

912
00:34:39,770 --> 00:34:42,989
The Russian foreign minister appeared in Baghdad in

913
00:34:42,989 --> 00:34:46,870
a political demonstration that certainly in practice discouraged

914
00:34:46,870 --> 00:34:50,250
any American military move on Serbia.

915
00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:53,190
They have clearly taken traditional Russian positions.

916
00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:54,489
Understandably so.

917
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:58,650
But Russia thinks of itself as a major

918
00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:01,090
geopolitical player, which it has every right to

919
00:35:01,090 --> 00:35:01,330
do.

920
00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:02,810
And I think it was two years later

921
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:03,970
that we bombed Serbia.

922
00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:05,690
Yeah, Clinton.

923
00:35:06,190 --> 00:35:06,430
Yeah.

924
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:10,430
Was that Madeleine Albright who was then the

925
00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:11,790
Secretary of State?

926
00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:12,730
It could be.

927
00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:13,150
I think so.

928
00:35:13,610 --> 00:35:16,290
That's the moment where we accidentally hit the

929
00:35:16,290 --> 00:35:18,270
Chinese embassy and blew it to smithereens.

930
00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:18,670
Oops.

931
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:19,570
Yeah.

932
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:23,770
So this has always been a horrible system.

933
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:26,310
I don't think President Trump's going to get

934
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:26,910
us out of it.

935
00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:28,490
I think he wants to keep it.

936
00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:33,090
I don't think he can get us out

937
00:35:33,090 --> 00:35:33,390
of it.

938
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:33,750
No.

939
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:38,110
And with all this JFK stuff coming out,

940
00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:40,390
RFK, JFK, RFK, JFK.

941
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:40,930
The K's.

942
00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:41,490
All the K's.

943
00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:41,810
Stuff coming out.

944
00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:43,390
It's going to, you know, where it looks

945
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:44,010
like they're going to.

946
00:35:45,070 --> 00:35:47,450
Bobby Kennedy still sticks by the guns where

947
00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:49,590
it's, you know, he says.

948
00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:50,190
CIA did.

949
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:53,770
JFK pulled us out of Vietnam, or said

950
00:35:53,770 --> 00:35:56,590
let's get out of Vietnam completely because there

951
00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:59,430
were 75 dead soldiers that were over there

952
00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:00,690
and they shouldn't have been fighting, but they

953
00:36:00,690 --> 00:36:03,170
were, and he was dead a month later.

954
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:05,470
His commentary.

955
00:36:05,710 --> 00:36:08,130
Yeah, but there's, I don't think there's anything

956
00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:10,450
about Vietnam in the JFK drop.

957
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:11,010
Is there?

958
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:12,890
I don't know.

959
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:14,970
I haven't heard anything about it.

960
00:36:15,130 --> 00:36:16,090
Let's ask Grok.

961
00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:18,650
Grok.

962
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:19,610
Ask Grok.

963
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:20,850
Lee Harvey Oswald.

964
00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:21,350
Yeah.

965
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:22,190
Yeah.

966
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:22,890
That's the guy.

967
00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:25,370
All right.

968
00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:26,530
Where do you want to go from here?

969
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:27,250
I have a lot.

970
00:36:27,350 --> 00:36:27,590
Well.

971
00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:29,090
Whoa.

972
00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:29,690
Since you're.

973
00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:30,410
I'm sorry.

974
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:34,090
I changed my position in the chair and

975
00:36:34,090 --> 00:36:35,990
banged the mic with my fist.

976
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:36,690
Oh, no.

977
00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:38,770
So there's that.

978
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:41,770
How about going to, since we're down, let's

979
00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:43,710
do the Ukraine peace talks and get that

980
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:45,210
out of the way from the from the

981
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:46,770
World Service of the BBC.

982
00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:47,370
Yes.

983
00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:48,090
Short wave.

984
00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:48,510
Yes.

985
00:36:48,670 --> 00:36:50,930
Ladies and gentlemen, the BBC World Service.

986
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:55,310
US has confirmed further peace talks will be

987
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:58,370
held in Saudi Arabia on Sunday, but it's

988
00:36:58,370 --> 00:37:01,050
not yet known whether a delegation from Ukraine

989
00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:02,730
or Russia will be involved.

990
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:05,330
In his call with Donald Trump on Wednesday,

991
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:08,030
President Putin agreed to continue the talks.

992
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:11,250
Our Russia editor, Steve Rosenberg, says it's a

993
00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:13,830
sign of a growing relationship between the two

994
00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:14,350
countries.

995
00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:16,990
The Kremlin is saying the kind of things

996
00:37:16,990 --> 00:37:19,330
we haven't heard the Kremlin say about an

997
00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:21,270
American president for years.

998
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:25,170
President Putin and Trump understand each other well.

999
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:28,170
Today, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed that Vladimir

1000
00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:31,850
Putin and Donald Trump trust each other and

1001
00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:33,190
understand each other well.

1002
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:36,330
There is another thing that President Trump understands

1003
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:38,990
because the Russians have dropped plenty of hints,

1004
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:40,990
and that is that there are lots of

1005
00:37:40,990 --> 00:37:44,450
lucrative deals potentially for America to do in

1006
00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:44,770
Russia.

1007
00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:46,030
Lucrative deals.

1008
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:46,870
Oh, no.

1009
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:48,630
But Trump.

1010
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:51,050
It wasn't covered by NPR.

1011
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:53,190
Trump's a bonehead.

1012
00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:53,770
He doesn't know.

1013
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:55,490
He has no experience with Putin.

1014
00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:56,070
Putin.

1015
00:37:56,590 --> 00:37:56,850
Putin.

1016
00:37:57,010 --> 00:37:57,410
Putin.

1017
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:59,450
Part two.

1018
00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:02,650
Which is fueling suspicion that Mr. Trump may

1019
00:38:02,650 --> 00:38:07,290
prioritize deal-making with Moscow over ensuring a

1020
00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:08,770
just peace for Ukraine.

1021
00:38:09,070 --> 00:38:10,630
Oh, the just word.

1022
00:38:10,770 --> 00:38:12,590
A just peace, which means.

1023
00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:13,050
Just.

1024
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:14,150
Taking stuff.

1025
00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:15,870
Just peace.

1026
00:38:16,030 --> 00:38:18,130
How about just peace, not a just peace?

1027
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,510
A just peace, which means we take your

1028
00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:24,910
300 billion euros and we tell you to

1029
00:38:24,910 --> 00:38:25,690
sod off.

1030
00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:27,870
Mind you, one deal that Donald Trump has

1031
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:30,430
so far failed to convince Vladimir Putin to

1032
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:33,170
sign up to is a comprehensive ceasefire.

1033
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:35,710
The Kremlin leader has laid down a string

1034
00:38:35,710 --> 00:38:38,410
of conditions for that, including an end to

1035
00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:41,330
Western arms shipments to Kiev and to Western

1036
00:38:41,330 --> 00:38:42,930
intelligence sharing with Ukraine.

1037
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:46,770
Still, the Kremlin continues to praise Donald Trump.

1038
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:49,670
On the streets of Moscow, though, people are

1039
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:50,330
more cautious.

1040
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:54,770
Tatyana tells me she doesn't like how Donald

1041
00:38:54,770 --> 00:38:57,610
Trump keeps changing what he says and does.

1042
00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:00,030
One minute he's giving you something, she says.

1043
00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:01,750
The next he's taking it.

1044
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:06,890
Vladimir tells me he's still waiting for proof

1045
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:09,550
that Trump will improve relations with Russia.

1046
00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:12,510
We've been promised things before, he says.

1047
00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:16,210
It's almost as if Russians cannot believe what

1048
00:39:16,210 --> 00:39:18,590
they're seeing, that it's too good to be

1049
00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:18,930
true.

1050
00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:22,670
An American president who says he wants better

1051
00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:24,090
relations with Russia.

1052
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:27,770
That was interesting.

1053
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:29,970
The public at large is now.

1054
00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:33,350
Yeah, heaven forbid we want, you know, decent

1055
00:39:33,350 --> 00:39:36,770
relations with somebody with 20,000 nuclear warheads.

1056
00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:39,130
This is against the entire globalist.

1057
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:40,850
I mean, when you look at it on

1058
00:39:40,850 --> 00:39:42,810
the map, you really start to see what

1059
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:44,550
the expansion of NATO was.

1060
00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:47,770
And, you know, you kind of understand that,

1061
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:50,870
yeah, you know, the globalists on our side,

1062
00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:53,750
and when I say our US, EU, they

1063
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:55,930
wanted to make sure that they captured everything

1064
00:39:55,930 --> 00:39:58,190
that could fall into a vacuum or that

1065
00:39:58,190 --> 00:40:01,090
could be sucked back into Russia.

1066
00:40:02,090 --> 00:40:05,210
And they do that by saying, well, Putin

1067
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:07,230
wants that, which may be true.

1068
00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:09,010
I mean, you know, he may be true.

1069
00:40:09,070 --> 00:40:10,990
He clearly wants to do business with them.

1070
00:40:10,990 --> 00:40:11,250
Yeah.

1071
00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:14,110
And then Ukraine is just, it's like, it's

1072
00:40:14,110 --> 00:40:14,870
like the pearl.

1073
00:40:15,110 --> 00:40:18,430
It's like the, it's like the perfect little,

1074
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:21,350
well, not little, huge piece of land that

1075
00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:23,510
they just can't allow him to influence.

1076
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:26,890
And that was really the genesis of the

1077
00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:30,210
whole problem is when Poroshenko decided, you know,

1078
00:40:30,670 --> 00:40:32,990
he was the president of Ukraine, said, you

1079
00:40:32,990 --> 00:40:34,350
know, I think I'm going to do a

1080
00:40:34,350 --> 00:40:35,950
deal with Russia instead of with the EU.

1081
00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:37,530
That was the start of it all.

1082
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:38,230
Yeah.

1083
00:40:38,350 --> 00:40:40,030
And that's where they brought in Newland and

1084
00:40:40,030 --> 00:40:42,050
John Brennan was over there.

1085
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:43,650
The My Don thing, the whole thing.

1086
00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:44,730
I had to get it, had to get

1087
00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:45,050
everybody.

1088
00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:45,630
Donuts.

1089
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:49,590
Were they donuts, cookies, or were they pretzels?

1090
00:40:49,650 --> 00:40:51,090
I can't really remember.

1091
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:52,930
I don't remember.

1092
00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:56,590
So meanwhile, just that we're going to stay

1093
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:57,830
in Europe for another couple of clips.

1094
00:40:57,850 --> 00:40:58,410
Yeah, sure.

1095
00:40:59,150 --> 00:40:59,570
Turkey.

1096
00:41:00,130 --> 00:41:02,450
There's a turkey mess going on that nobody's

1097
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:02,550
done.

1098
00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:05,350
The mainstream media is not talking about this

1099
00:41:05,350 --> 00:41:06,450
whatsoever at all.

1100
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:07,630
Turkey-ay.

1101
00:41:08,410 --> 00:41:09,130
Turkey-ay.

1102
00:41:09,650 --> 00:41:11,810
How does the BBC World Service pronounce it?

1103
00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:14,470
Well, we'll find out, won't we?

1104
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:15,550
In Turkey...

1105
00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:15,850
Oh no!

1106
00:41:15,850 --> 00:41:17,950
...students outside Istanbul University...

1107
00:41:17,950 --> 00:41:18,370
How is that?

1108
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:20,010
That's a violation of standards.

1109
00:41:20,210 --> 00:41:21,430
I think that's not right.

1110
00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:22,230
It's the BBC.

1111
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:23,350
They said Turkey.

1112
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:24,330
That's incorrect.

1113
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:27,910
The following report incorrectly identifies Turkey-ay as

1114
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:28,170
Turkey.

1115
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:32,490
In Turkey, students outside Istanbul University were pepper

1116
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,810
sprayed by riot police as they protested against

1117
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:38,890
the detention of one of President Recep Tayyip

1118
00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:42,870
Erdogan's biggest rivals, the mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem

1119
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:43,490
İmamoğlu.

1120
00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:46,430
In a rare display of public anger, crowds

1121
00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:49,650
chanted anti-government slogans while the main opposition

1122
00:41:49,650 --> 00:41:52,390
called his arrest a coup against our next

1123
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:52,870
president.

1124
00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:56,210
These locals in Istanbul voiced their outrage.

1125
00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:59,970
I think these are all political decisions, and

1126
00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:01,150
I'm sure that a large part of the

1127
00:42:01,150 --> 00:42:01,910
country thinks so.

1128
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:03,170
There is no justice.

1129
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,270
There is no law.

1130
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:06,770
There is always a judiciary that only enforces

1131
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:08,190
the decisions taken by the government.

1132
00:42:08,690 --> 00:42:10,170
There is no other explanation for this.

1133
00:42:12,190 --> 00:42:13,150
I'm furious.

1134
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:14,490
That's all I have to say.

1135
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:16,670
Our situation is not getting any better.

1136
00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:19,170
The reasons are already obvious, but of course

1137
00:42:19,170 --> 00:42:20,690
there must be a cover for this.

1138
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:24,110
But at a news conference, Turkey's Justice Minister

1139
00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:27,310
Yilmaz Tunç defended the arrests.

1140
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:30,910
I would like to underscore that the Republic

1141
00:42:30,910 --> 00:42:32,970
of Turkey is a state governed by the

1142
00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:33,530
rule of law.

1143
00:42:34,090 --> 00:42:35,510
Everyone is equal before the law.

1144
00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:38,710
No individual or group is granted special privileges.

1145
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:43,890
The Turkish lira plummeted to its lowest level

1146
00:42:43,890 --> 00:42:47,930
following Mr İmamoğlu's detention, falling by almost 15

1147
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:49,370
% against the dollar.

1148
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:52,530
Well, Emre Temel from the BBC's Turkish service

1149
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:53,390
joins us now.

1150
00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:57,650
Emre, Mr İmamoğlu and 100 politicians, journalists and

1151
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:58,750
businessmen were detained.

1152
00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:00,630
What are they accused of?

1153
00:43:01,390 --> 00:43:05,170
The Istanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office described Ekrem

1154
00:43:05,170 --> 00:43:08,570
İmamoğlu as a suspected criminal organization leader.

1155
00:43:09,350 --> 00:43:12,250
He was accused of corruption in tender processes.

1156
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:16,790
Prosecutors also accused Mr İmamoğlu of aiding the

1157
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:19,970
outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK as well.

1158
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:23,510
And Turkish Justice Minister Yilmaz Tunç said a

1159
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:27,350
total of 106 individuals have been detained into

1160
00:43:27,350 --> 00:43:30,510
two investigations into terrorism and corruption.

1161
00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:34,930
The wildcard here is I think the Gülen

1162
00:43:34,930 --> 00:43:38,570
network, who of course lost their leader, Fethullah

1163
00:43:38,570 --> 00:43:39,030
Gülen.

1164
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:42,730
He died what, last year, late last year?

1165
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:43,710
Yeah.

1166
00:43:44,050 --> 00:43:46,230
I wonder if these people are part of

1167
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:46,890
the network.

1168
00:43:47,590 --> 00:43:49,890
No, this whole thing is very suspicious and

1169
00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:52,490
we don't, we'll never have any clue as,

1170
00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:54,370
because the reporting is so mediocre.

1171
00:43:54,370 --> 00:43:56,190
They can't even get the name of the

1172
00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:56,750
country right.

1173
00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:57,970
How can we trust anything?

1174
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:59,070
Turkey, eh ladies?

1175
00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:02,190
He added that investigations will remain confidential.

1176
00:44:03,130 --> 00:44:05,210
Mr İmamoğlu denies all the charges.

1177
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:08,950
His wife Dilek İmamoğlu dismissed the accusations as

1178
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:10,710
ridiculous and manufactured.

1179
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,950
And the opposition says Mr İmamoğlu is being

1180
00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:17,590
targeted to stop him running against President Erdoğan

1181
00:44:17,590 --> 00:44:19,710
in the next presidential elections.

1182
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:21,790
How much of a threat is he to

1183
00:44:21,790 --> 00:44:22,490
Mr Erdoğan?

1184
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:26,250
Ekrem İmamoğlu is seen as the strongest rival

1185
00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:28,610
to the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in

1186
00:44:28,610 --> 00:44:29,510
a future election.

1187
00:44:29,850 --> 00:44:33,810
As President Erdoğan himself, Mr İmamoğlu seemed ready

1188
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:36,710
to use Istanbul mayorship as the launchpad for

1189
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:38,430
the ultimate prize presidency.

1190
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:41,930
He's a very popular politician, won the mayoral

1191
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:45,850
race twice in 2019 and was resoundingly reelected

1192
00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:46,390
last year.

1193
00:44:47,950 --> 00:44:50,230
And he's, Mr İmamoğlu is expected to be

1194
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:54,750
named as main opposition Republican People Party's presidential

1195
00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:57,990
candidate in a primary vote on Sunday.

1196
00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:01,270
However, yesterday his university diploma was revoked.

1197
00:45:01,850 --> 00:45:03,970
This move was largely seen by the opposition

1198
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:08,150
as an aim to eliminate him from the

1199
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:10,650
Turkish politics because a college degree is a

1200
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:13,910
constitutional requirement for a candidacy in Turkey.

1201
00:45:14,570 --> 00:45:16,890
And Mr İmamoğlu was preparing to appeal this

1202
00:45:16,890 --> 00:45:17,310
decision.

1203
00:45:17,530 --> 00:45:19,550
But what happened this morning left him in

1204
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:20,590
an uncharted territory.

1205
00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:23,690
If he will be arrested, the government may

1206
00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:27,210
appoint a trustee to the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality

1207
00:45:27,210 --> 00:45:28,690
to replace İmamoğlu.

1208
00:45:29,170 --> 00:45:32,390
And as it stands now, Ekrem İmamoğlu will

1209
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:34,270
not be able to run in Turkey's next

1210
00:45:34,270 --> 00:45:35,550
presidential election.

1211
00:45:35,550 --> 00:45:38,570
I'm surprised that no one, I'm sorry.

1212
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:40,810
I was going to say the giveaway that

1213
00:45:40,810 --> 00:45:43,270
this is a scam is the fact that

1214
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:45,290
they took his diploma away.

1215
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:49,910
The university was told that the guy got

1216
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:50,710
a degree.

1217
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:52,410
He needed a degree, I guess, to run

1218
00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:53,410
for office in Turkey.

1219
00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:53,790
Yeah.

1220
00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:54,190
Yeah.

1221
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:55,310
I mean, he's had this degree.

1222
00:45:55,410 --> 00:45:57,090
It's like it felt like somebody at the

1223
00:45:57,090 --> 00:45:58,890
University of California called me and said, we're

1224
00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:01,610
revoking your bachelor's degree.

1225
00:46:02,030 --> 00:46:02,350
What?

1226
00:46:02,830 --> 00:46:03,730
How do you do that?

1227
00:46:03,730 --> 00:46:05,730
Let that be a warning to you trolls.

1228
00:46:06,490 --> 00:46:08,830
If you troll too hard, we're revoking your

1229
00:46:08,830 --> 00:46:11,610
no agenda PhD and maybe even your Commodore

1230
00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:11,990
ship.

1231
00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:14,470
Take it away.

1232
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:19,230
Oh, man.

1233
00:46:19,590 --> 00:46:21,790
You'd expect a lot more reporting on this

1234
00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:26,310
from the media because it is a NATO

1235
00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:28,730
country that is in disarray right now.

1236
00:46:29,590 --> 00:46:31,010
Well, it's always kind of in disarray.

1237
00:46:31,150 --> 00:46:31,730
It's always kind of.

1238
00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:35,010
I'm actually surprised that I never heard this

1239
00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:38,050
from any other source, including NTD.

1240
00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:42,570
Nobody's covering this except the BBC's world service.

1241
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:44,770
Yeah, well, they got to fill the airtime

1242
00:46:44,770 --> 00:46:45,250
somehow.

1243
00:46:45,690 --> 00:46:47,650
Now that there's a vacuum with the voice

1244
00:46:47,650 --> 00:46:48,850
of America being gone.

1245
00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:51,710
Oh, now everyone's going to switch to us

1246
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:52,690
on long wave.

1247
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:58,010
I was going to clip something was so

1248
00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:58,410
dumb.

1249
00:46:58,410 --> 00:47:02,250
The voice of America has 360 million listeners

1250
00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:03,010
in their audience.

1251
00:47:03,150 --> 00:47:04,670
I'm like, no, they don't.

1252
00:47:07,530 --> 00:47:08,910
President Trump is right.

1253
00:47:09,010 --> 00:47:11,850
Getting rid of that because they're propagandizing the

1254
00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:13,170
Americans with all that nonsense.

1255
00:47:15,330 --> 00:47:19,430
So I think we can't go around.

1256
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:20,570
Yes.

1257
00:47:21,090 --> 00:47:23,090
Well, I don't know where you're headed, but

1258
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:25,050
I do have one more kind of obscure

1259
00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:25,550
clip.

1260
00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:25,950
Sure.

1261
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,930
Of information that's not being played anywhere else.

1262
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:31,090
And that's followed by a couple of very

1263
00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:32,310
strange clips.

1264
00:47:33,150 --> 00:47:36,010
But this is the untold, the unreported South

1265
00:47:36,010 --> 00:47:36,750
Africa news.

1266
00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:39,910
There's another blurt that nobody picked up on.

1267
00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:41,250
I didn't hear this anymore.

1268
00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:41,750
You know about this.

1269
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:44,310
Is this about the ambassador that we kicked

1270
00:47:44,310 --> 00:47:44,430
out?

1271
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:45,930
No, no, no, not about the ambassador.

1272
00:47:46,270 --> 00:47:49,610
Oh, once again, President Trump, manga, making African

1273
00:47:49,610 --> 00:47:50,410
news great again.

1274
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:52,210
Almost 70,000.

1275
00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:54,390
Manga, making African news great again.

1276
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:56,970
Oh, manga, manga, manga.

1277
00:47:57,270 --> 00:48:01,150
Almost 70,000 South Africans have expressed interest

1278
00:48:01,150 --> 00:48:04,290
in resettling to the United States following an

1279
00:48:04,290 --> 00:48:08,090
executive order by President Donald Trump offering citizenship

1280
00:48:08,090 --> 00:48:09,850
to farmers from the country.

1281
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:12,570
The South African Chamber of Commerce in the

1282
00:48:12,570 --> 00:48:15,130
USA says it's handed over the details of

1283
00:48:15,130 --> 00:48:17,810
those interested to the U.S. Embassy in

1284
00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:18,290
Pretoria.

1285
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:22,110
From Johannesburg, here's our Africa correspondent, Mayani Jones.

1286
00:48:22,110 --> 00:48:23,930
Now, this is the first time that we're

1287
00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:26,510
getting an indication of the level of interest

1288
00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:28,790
in South Africa to Mr. Trump's offer to

1289
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:31,550
resettle South African farmers to the U.S.

1290
00:48:31,590 --> 00:48:33,670
Now, for some context, on the 7th of

1291
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:36,790
February, President Trump issued an executive order accusing

1292
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:40,210
the South African government of discriminating against white

1293
00:48:40,210 --> 00:48:41,370
Africana farmers.

1294
00:48:41,550 --> 00:48:44,410
These are descendants of Dutch and French settlers

1295
00:48:44,410 --> 00:48:45,270
here in South Africa.

1296
00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:48,350
This is something that President Siruho Ramaphosa has

1297
00:48:48,350 --> 00:48:49,590
repeatedly denied.

1298
00:48:49,830 --> 00:48:53,010
Nonetheless, a month later, President Trump extended his

1299
00:48:53,010 --> 00:48:55,450
invitation to any South African farmer who felt

1300
00:48:55,450 --> 00:48:58,310
discriminated against and also offered them citizenship.

1301
00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:01,350
Following this, the South African Chamber of Commerce

1302
00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:02,930
in the U.S. says it launched a

1303
00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:05,190
platform on its website inviting people who were

1304
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:07,670
interested in resettling to fill in a few

1305
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:08,630
basic details.

1306
00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:10,770
We don't know the professions of these people,

1307
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:12,070
so we don't know if they qualify for

1308
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:13,370
resettlement, if they're farmers.

1309
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:15,290
And this is just an expression of interest.

1310
00:49:15,350 --> 00:49:17,330
These are not people who've applied for resettlement

1311
00:49:17,330 --> 00:49:19,130
yet, but they say they're interested in this.

1312
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:22,610
And according to Sekusa, around 67,000 people

1313
00:49:22,610 --> 00:49:24,810
filled in this form and have expressed an

1314
00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:27,670
interest in resettling to the United States.

1315
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:29,570
Most of them were aged between 25 and

1316
00:49:29,570 --> 00:49:32,710
45, and the majority of them had dependents

1317
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:34,290
that would be coming to the U.S.

1318
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:35,990
That's a great idea.

1319
00:49:36,110 --> 00:49:37,250
I didn't know about that.

1320
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:39,190
Nobody knows about it.

1321
00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:40,370
That's a good idea.

1322
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:42,710
I mean, those guys know how to farm.

1323
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:44,630
Yeah, they do.

1324
00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:47,390
Yeah, and, you know, a lot of our

1325
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:49,290
young people don't want to farm anymore.

1326
00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:51,910
And they just want to sell the farm.

1327
00:49:53,350 --> 00:49:56,570
Yeah, no, this is, again, not being, this

1328
00:49:56,570 --> 00:49:57,610
is unreported.

1329
00:49:58,530 --> 00:50:02,610
I'm stunned how the mainstream, well, I'm stunned

1330
00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:03,810
there's gambling going on.

1331
00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:06,070
Yeah, but they could use the, the M5M

1332
00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:07,630
could use that to say, well, you know,

1333
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:09,910
Trump wants to bring in South Africans.

1334
00:50:10,330 --> 00:50:11,150
Yeah, whiteys.

1335
00:50:11,350 --> 00:50:12,110
Yeah, they bring in white.

1336
00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:13,650
He only likes white people.

1337
00:50:13,650 --> 00:50:15,290
Yes, yes, Nazis.

1338
00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:16,530
I don't understand.

1339
00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:17,770
Yeah, I agree with you.

1340
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:20,550
It's a missed opportunity by the mainstream media.

1341
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:22,430
Now, then there's this other story.

1342
00:50:22,690 --> 00:50:24,370
Well, if I can just say, the reason

1343
00:50:24,370 --> 00:50:26,670
why they're not doing it is they understand,

1344
00:50:26,810 --> 00:50:29,610
like we do, that Africa news is automatic

1345
00:50:29,610 --> 00:50:30,230
tune-out.

1346
00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:32,550
So, yeah, so that's going to be the

1347
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:34,530
real tune-out though is this story.

1348
00:50:34,690 --> 00:50:34,930
Okay.

1349
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:39,450
This is the, it's, it's, it's under Cape

1350
00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:39,710
Town.

1351
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:40,470
Cape Town?

1352
00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:40,650
Yeah.

1353
00:50:40,910 --> 00:50:41,070
Yeah.

1354
00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:41,650
Cape Town.

1355
00:50:42,130 --> 00:50:45,410
Uh, so the South Africans have a, uh,

1356
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:47,890
contingent of people that they sent to a

1357
00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:51,570
Antarctic site where they, they, they stay wound

1358
00:50:51,570 --> 00:50:53,230
up and then they shit.

1359
00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:54,430
They were mad, didn't they?

1360
00:50:54,530 --> 00:50:55,670
A fight break out or something?

1361
00:50:55,850 --> 00:50:58,010
No, a guy, there's one guy there that's

1362
00:50:58,010 --> 00:51:01,130
apparently gone nuts and he's a psycho and

1363
00:51:01,130 --> 00:51:02,930
they can't get this, they can't get him

1364
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:03,190
out.

1365
00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:05,990
So this is a report from a South

1366
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:09,470
African radio station and they brought in a

1367
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:11,530
foreign, one of the ministers who, who does

1368
00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:13,910
nothing but make excuses for, no, we've got

1369
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:14,030
it.

1370
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:14,310
Got it.

1371
00:51:14,330 --> 00:51:15,390
We got it under control.

1372
00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:16,950
And the guy says, it's like totally full

1373
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:17,390
of crap.

1374
00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:18,870
This went on for a long time.

1375
00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:20,410
I only have two short clips of it,

1376
00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:22,350
but I mean, you could, it just goes

1377
00:51:22,350 --> 00:51:23,750
on and on and on with this guy

1378
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:27,150
apologizing for this whole situation, but I thought

1379
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:27,790
it was amusing.

1380
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:28,490
Here we go.

1381
00:51:28,730 --> 00:51:28,970
All right.

1382
00:51:28,990 --> 00:51:29,490
You're on Cape Talk.

1383
00:51:29,550 --> 00:51:30,470
My name is Dan Korda.

1384
00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:32,230
As I said, a few minutes ago, I'm

1385
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:34,750
genuinely thrilled to be joined by minister Dion

1386
00:51:34,750 --> 00:51:37,490
George, who's the environment minister, more specifically of

1387
00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:40,470
the DFFE, the department of forestry, fisheries, and

1388
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:41,230
the environment.

1389
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:43,870
Dion George, thank you for joining us.

1390
00:51:44,130 --> 00:51:46,330
Your department is in the middle of a

1391
00:51:46,330 --> 00:51:49,910
rapidly exploding story that has developed in the

1392
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:50,350
last few days.

1393
00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:52,210
We really caught a hold in the media

1394
00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:56,050
in literally this morning about SANE 5, our

1395
00:51:56,050 --> 00:51:59,110
Antarctica research station that South Africa is the

1396
00:51:59,110 --> 00:52:02,950
custodian of and manages, and about allegations that

1397
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:05,370
one member of our research team down there

1398
00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:08,130
has been accused of physical assault, potentially even

1399
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:10,910
sexual assault, that has, well, it depends on

1400
00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:13,690
which kind of statement and press release or

1401
00:52:13,690 --> 00:52:16,510
which journalist you read, but has potentially expressed

1402
00:52:16,510 --> 00:52:20,810
remorse, underwent further evaluation, but potentially also has

1403
00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:22,910
a sexual assault allegation outstanding.

1404
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:25,650
We've also heard suggestions from the media that

1405
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:27,670
members of the rest of our research team

1406
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:29,950
felt unsafe and wanted to be evacuated, and

1407
00:52:29,950 --> 00:52:30,570
then they weren't.

1408
00:52:30,570 --> 00:52:32,690
Can you just clear up exactly what is

1409
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:34,130
going on for all of us who are

1410
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:36,230
swimming in too much journalism right now?

1411
00:52:37,610 --> 00:52:38,810
Yes, good afternoon.

1412
00:52:39,070 --> 00:52:41,270
Thanks for having me on this afternoon.

1413
00:52:42,030 --> 00:52:43,970
I think, yes, we must stick to the

1414
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:46,210
facts, and also I think that we really

1415
00:52:46,210 --> 00:52:50,130
do need to avoid sensationalizing the situation.

1416
00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:53,230
There is, in fact, a situation that we

1417
00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:55,410
are dealing with very successfully.

1418
00:52:56,110 --> 00:52:59,210
What happened was one of the members of

1419
00:52:59,210 --> 00:53:03,790
the team at Antarctica had an altercation, verbal

1420
00:53:03,790 --> 00:53:08,570
altercation, with another member regarding a task that

1421
00:53:08,570 --> 00:53:11,530
needed to be done, and that did escalate,

1422
00:53:11,710 --> 00:53:14,930
and there was a physical assault.

1423
00:53:15,370 --> 00:53:16,990
Not serious injuries.

1424
00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:21,050
The doctor attended to them, and that was

1425
00:53:21,050 --> 00:53:21,670
okay.

1426
00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:22,730
Everything's good.

1427
00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:24,130
Nothing to worry about.

1428
00:53:24,130 --> 00:53:25,310
Nothing to see here.

1429
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:27,850
Yeah.

1430
00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:29,630
Okay.

1431
00:53:29,730 --> 00:53:32,110
This guy who sounds like a kind of

1432
00:53:32,110 --> 00:53:34,050
a Mr. Peepers character continues.

1433
00:53:34,270 --> 00:53:36,970
What are they doing at that Antarctic base?

1434
00:53:37,070 --> 00:53:39,490
Are they looking for the flying saucers?

1435
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:42,690
Are they looking for the ice wall where

1436
00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:44,570
the rest of the continent of the flat

1437
00:53:44,570 --> 00:53:45,410
earth is located?

1438
00:53:45,930 --> 00:53:50,390
During this period of time when it's the

1439
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:53,010
worst of conditions, usually most of these bases

1440
00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:56,790
are abandoned, but they keep a team at

1441
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:58,730
this one, and the South Africans keep a

1442
00:53:58,730 --> 00:53:59,030
team.

1443
00:53:59,150 --> 00:54:01,010
Are they running the earthquake machine?

1444
00:54:01,290 --> 00:54:01,870
What is happening?

1445
00:54:02,110 --> 00:54:03,010
What is happening down there?

1446
00:54:03,590 --> 00:54:05,470
That's never explained in the entire report.

1447
00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:07,010
When you mean physical assault, was it a

1448
00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:07,470
punch-up?

1449
00:54:07,630 --> 00:54:08,070
What was it?

1450
00:54:08,170 --> 00:54:08,410
Punch-up!

1451
00:54:08,530 --> 00:54:10,350
I do not know the whole detail of

1452
00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:13,050
it, but it was a physical altercation, and

1453
00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:17,210
there was no serious injuries, and that did

1454
00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:17,510
happen.

1455
00:54:17,890 --> 00:54:20,030
There was no sexual assault.

1456
00:54:20,330 --> 00:54:21,730
That is not correct.

1457
00:54:21,870 --> 00:54:22,130
Okay.

1458
00:54:22,130 --> 00:54:26,530
There was an allegation of sexual harassment against

1459
00:54:26,530 --> 00:54:30,630
the same individual, and what we've done is

1460
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:34,430
we've immediately had our team of psychologists and

1461
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:38,470
experts on the situation right at the very

1462
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:42,350
outset, because obviously it's very harsh circumstances down

1463
00:54:42,350 --> 00:54:49,590
there, and the window has now closed for

1464
00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:51,390
returns, et cetera.

1465
00:54:52,310 --> 00:54:54,430
Sorry, can you just unpack that?

1466
00:54:54,690 --> 00:54:56,510
Yes, exactly, because some of our listeners have

1467
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:58,330
already said, well, you know, the Cape Agulhas

1468
00:54:58,330 --> 00:54:59,570
only goes down at this time.

1469
00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:00,390
It's only in December.

1470
00:55:00,550 --> 00:55:02,030
It's a boat, but I know of people

1471
00:55:02,030 --> 00:55:02,990
who've been flown down.

1472
00:55:03,110 --> 00:55:04,290
I know that the weather changes.

1473
00:55:04,770 --> 00:55:06,450
Is there no way to get people out

1474
00:55:06,450 --> 00:55:07,190
who want to get out?

1475
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:09,290
Because I imagine even if this has been

1476
00:55:09,290 --> 00:55:11,290
resolved, and even if there are psychologists and

1477
00:55:11,290 --> 00:55:13,810
doctors on the ground or online, there are

1478
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:16,170
now potentially people in that research team who

1479
00:55:16,170 --> 00:55:18,410
feel very unsafe working in a small station,

1480
00:55:18,550 --> 00:55:20,210
in a small environment, in a small community

1481
00:55:20,210 --> 00:55:20,750
of people.

1482
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:24,890
Working with our psychologists, it's very clear that

1483
00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:26,850
there is headway getting made.

1484
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:30,550
Oh, that's a good story.

1485
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:31,730
Headway getting made.

1486
00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:35,730
That's a story for a Netflix miniseries, limited

1487
00:55:35,730 --> 00:55:36,690
series.

1488
00:55:36,790 --> 00:55:37,770
Exactly what Mimi said.

1489
00:55:37,770 --> 00:55:39,770
By the way, if I may, just for

1490
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:43,270
a moment, I think that the streamers are

1491
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:44,990
making big, big mistakes.

1492
00:55:46,370 --> 00:55:48,210
You know, we've been trying to follow a

1493
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:52,150
couple of shows, and well, first of all,

1494
00:55:52,270 --> 00:55:55,210
Roku is now testing autoplay ads on the

1495
00:55:55,210 --> 00:55:55,770
home screen.

1496
00:55:56,090 --> 00:55:56,790
Do you have a Roku?

1497
00:55:56,850 --> 00:55:57,710
You don't have a Roku, do you?

1498
00:55:57,730 --> 00:55:58,550
I do have a Roku.

1499
00:55:58,710 --> 00:56:00,050
I have a couple of Rokus, but I

1500
00:56:00,050 --> 00:56:02,930
don't use them because my smart LG TV,

1501
00:56:03,130 --> 00:56:04,770
which is recommended during the tips of the

1502
00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:07,630
day some time ago, has a bunch of

1503
00:56:07,630 --> 00:56:09,650
stuff built in, so I don't use it.

1504
00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:11,370
Yeah, but if you have a Roku box,

1505
00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:13,570
now all of a sudden you bring up

1506
00:56:13,570 --> 00:56:15,830
the home screen where you select your icon

1507
00:56:15,830 --> 00:56:18,330
for the streaming service of your choice, and

1508
00:56:18,330 --> 00:56:22,250
they got ads autoplaying with audio.

1509
00:56:22,550 --> 00:56:25,430
That's interesting, which brings me back.

1510
00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:27,730
Okay, the guy, okay, this is interesting.

1511
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:29,450
I don't know if it's that interesting.

1512
00:56:29,550 --> 00:56:30,430
It's a little inside baseball.

1513
00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:31,810
Well, you're on the hook now.

1514
00:56:31,870 --> 00:56:32,690
It better be interesting.

1515
00:56:33,250 --> 00:56:35,350
Well, it probably won't be that interesting, but

1516
00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:37,870
the guy who is the CEO of Roku

1517
00:56:37,870 --> 00:56:40,950
I had lunch with once, and he was,

1518
00:56:41,050 --> 00:56:43,650
and the reason I had a chat with

1519
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:45,290
him because he was the guy who started

1520
00:56:45,290 --> 00:56:48,130
Replay TV, which was the original competitor of

1521
00:56:48,130 --> 00:56:50,430
TiVo, and I went to the rollout of

1522
00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:54,270
Replay TV, and his whole modus operandi, his

1523
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:55,970
whole idea of how you're going to make

1524
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:58,510
money with Replay TV, which is just basically

1525
00:56:58,510 --> 00:56:59,870
a DVR.

1526
00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:01,070
Was skipping the ads.

1527
00:57:02,010 --> 00:57:06,810
Was, yeah, but his idea was throwing in

1528
00:57:06,810 --> 00:57:10,110
more ads in situations where you couldn't skip

1529
00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:10,350
them.

1530
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:13,230
He really liked the idea of now you

1531
00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:14,350
have a captive audience.

1532
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:15,830
Let's throw some ads at him that they

1533
00:57:15,830 --> 00:57:16,970
can't do anything about.

1534
00:57:17,830 --> 00:57:19,490
So it makes nothing but sense that he

1535
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:20,490
would do this with Roku.

1536
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:21,610
What's the guy's name again?

1537
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:23,830
Because he's invited me to his backyard barbecue

1538
00:57:23,830 --> 00:57:25,110
a couple of years in a row.

1539
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:27,630
The CEO of Roku?

1540
00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:28,370
Yeah, yeah.

1541
00:57:28,370 --> 00:57:29,030
What's his name?

1542
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:30,390
I don't know what his name is.

1543
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:32,650
He has a house in Austin.

1544
00:57:34,050 --> 00:57:36,370
And he's a really nice guy.

1545
00:57:36,670 --> 00:57:37,750
That's what people say.

1546
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:40,910
I mean, he's like a really nice guy.

1547
00:57:41,090 --> 00:57:41,870
It never worked out.

1548
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:43,390
It's like, hey, come by on Thursday.

1549
00:57:43,650 --> 00:57:45,350
Thanks for knowing what I do, dude.

1550
00:57:47,170 --> 00:57:49,110
And he would have Willie Nelson.

1551
00:57:49,450 --> 00:57:51,810
I think his house is probably a pretty

1552
00:57:51,810 --> 00:57:52,750
big place anyway.

1553
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:57,070
But my general complaint, the streamers seem to

1554
00:57:57,070 --> 00:57:58,210
have a new strategy.

1555
00:57:59,270 --> 00:58:03,650
They are now releasing episodes weekly, where it

1556
00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:05,610
used to be you'd get the first three.

1557
00:58:05,830 --> 00:58:07,090
Then you get another batch.

1558
00:58:07,110 --> 00:58:08,650
In some cases, the whole thing.

1559
00:58:08,690 --> 00:58:10,710
You can kind of pace your own viewing

1560
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:11,250
habit.

1561
00:58:11,890 --> 00:58:12,950
Right, which is what you want.

1562
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:15,250
Yeah, but they're doing away with that.

1563
00:58:15,370 --> 00:58:17,710
And so basically, if you look at White

1564
00:58:17,710 --> 00:58:20,490
Lotus, which we watched season two, and now

1565
00:58:20,490 --> 00:58:21,270
it's season three.

1566
00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:22,530
So I will watch it.

1567
00:58:23,130 --> 00:58:24,870
Now they're turning it into an eight hour

1568
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:28,190
movie where they don't have like, you know,

1569
00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:30,450
big cliffhangers after each episode.

1570
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:31,570
It just kind of ends.

1571
00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:34,450
And the tension is just, it's tension throughout.

1572
00:58:34,490 --> 00:58:35,310
It's building up.

1573
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:36,130
It's building up.

1574
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:37,590
But then you have to wait a week.

1575
00:58:38,050 --> 00:58:39,090
I think it's a losing.

1576
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:40,190
I know why they're doing it.

1577
00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:42,950
Because people would come in, get the deal

1578
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:45,250
for, you know, one month, pay for one

1579
00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:48,250
month, cancel right away after they've binged the

1580
00:58:48,250 --> 00:58:49,390
series they want to see.

1581
00:58:49,570 --> 00:58:52,290
So they're trying to stretch people out over

1582
00:58:52,290 --> 00:58:53,870
at least two months or longer.

1583
00:58:54,310 --> 00:58:56,630
Or they're not one month free thing.

1584
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:58,010
Yes, and you can't.

1585
00:58:58,010 --> 00:58:58,650
That's the idea.

1586
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:59,990
Yeah, you can't binge.

1587
00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:02,650
I think it's a mistake in strategy.

1588
00:59:02,910 --> 00:59:05,870
And I'm not sure it's also this.

1589
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:08,410
The episodes just go on and on and

1590
00:59:08,410 --> 00:59:09,730
on with no resolution.

1591
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:11,890
You know, if you have an episode, you

1592
00:59:11,890 --> 00:59:14,510
need a resolution with some cliffhanger at the

1593
00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:14,650
end.

1594
00:59:14,690 --> 00:59:15,490
They don't have that.

1595
00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:17,430
Just like, we'll see you next week, sucker.

1596
00:59:19,330 --> 00:59:20,770
I don't think it's real.

1597
00:59:20,930 --> 00:59:23,390
I think it sounds like you have a

1598
00:59:23,390 --> 00:59:23,730
problem.

1599
00:59:24,070 --> 00:59:24,950
I don't know.

1600
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:28,150
I find most of my watching has just

1601
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:31,810
gone deteriorated completely because of, I mean, except

1602
00:59:31,810 --> 00:59:33,330
for a couple of shows that I like.

1603
00:59:33,350 --> 00:59:34,410
It all sucks.

1604
00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:37,550
I have like two, three shows maybe that

1605
00:59:37,550 --> 00:59:38,750
I'll watch over and over.

1606
00:59:39,490 --> 00:59:41,730
And I mean, I still find there is

1607
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:45,510
some network stuff that is still nominally good.

1608
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:47,930
I still think NCIS is a well-written

1609
00:59:47,930 --> 00:59:52,910
show that's compelling and well done.

1610
00:59:53,550 --> 00:59:56,150
Uh, other than that, the FBI stuff is

1611
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:56,930
not that interesting.

1612
00:59:57,030 --> 01:00:01,130
They killed a couple of them, which brings

1613
01:00:01,130 --> 01:00:01,990
me to some clips.

1614
01:00:02,330 --> 01:00:07,930
I need to get into a different category

1615
01:00:07,930 --> 01:00:08,490
here.

1616
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:09,890
You're just going on and on with your

1617
01:00:09,890 --> 01:00:10,170
clips.

1618
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:11,750
I just gave you Cape Town.

1619
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:13,370
This is the show.

1620
01:00:13,450 --> 01:00:15,550
I gave you Cape Town.

1621
01:00:15,690 --> 01:00:16,950
I get to do something now.

1622
01:00:17,230 --> 01:00:18,890
Cape Town was borderline, man.

1623
01:00:19,790 --> 01:00:20,610
Well, yeah, it was.

1624
01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:23,050
We need to talk about the Elon hate.

1625
01:00:24,030 --> 01:00:25,390
I got clips.

1626
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:25,770
Okay.

1627
01:00:25,930 --> 01:00:27,750
Well, let me start off with a supercut

1628
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:28,890
and it's long.

1629
01:00:29,010 --> 01:00:31,310
So you can, if you're sick of it,

1630
01:00:31,450 --> 01:00:31,950
let me know.

1631
01:00:32,090 --> 01:00:33,150
Saying on my phone, I don't know.

1632
01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:34,090
Some of you know this on the iPhone.

1633
01:00:34,290 --> 01:00:35,870
They've got that little stock app.

1634
01:00:36,030 --> 01:00:37,510
I added Tesla to it to give me

1635
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:38,850
a little boost during the day.

1636
01:00:41,710 --> 01:00:42,830
225 and dropping.

1637
01:00:43,170 --> 01:00:47,070
Elon Musk, you didn't create USAID.

1638
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:49,950
The United States Congress did for the American

1639
01:00:49,950 --> 01:00:50,430
people.

1640
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:55,450
And just like Elon Musk did not create

1641
01:00:55,450 --> 01:00:56,390
USAID.

1642
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:59,190
He doesn't have the power to destroy it.

1643
01:00:59,470 --> 01:01:00,870
And who's going to stop him?

1644
01:01:01,090 --> 01:01:02,250
We are.

1645
01:01:02,550 --> 01:01:05,150
We are witnessing a constitutional crisis.

1646
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:08,890
We talked about Trump wanting to be a

1647
01:01:08,890 --> 01:01:10,310
dictator on day one.

1648
01:01:10,550 --> 01:01:12,110
And here we are.

1649
01:01:12,330 --> 01:01:15,950
This is what the beginning of dictatorship looks

1650
01:01:15,950 --> 01:01:16,330
like.

1651
01:01:16,510 --> 01:01:18,450
Today, it's USAID.

1652
01:01:18,450 --> 01:01:20,390
Tomorrow, it's our health care.

1653
01:01:20,650 --> 01:01:21,850
It's social security.

1654
01:01:22,130 --> 01:01:23,170
It's our livelihoods.

1655
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:23,990
It's our freedoms.

1656
01:01:24,370 --> 01:01:26,050
So stand up for USAID today.

1657
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:27,370
USAID today.

1658
01:01:28,910 --> 01:01:30,830
Stand up for USAID today.

1659
01:01:30,930 --> 01:01:33,030
The newspaper must stay around.

1660
01:01:33,330 --> 01:01:34,050
It's our health care.

1661
01:01:34,410 --> 01:01:35,510
It's social security.

1662
01:01:35,830 --> 01:01:36,890
It's our livelihoods.

1663
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:37,590
It's our freedoms.

1664
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:39,790
So stand up for USAID today.

1665
01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:42,190
USAID today so that we can stand up

1666
01:01:42,190 --> 01:01:44,110
for all of our freedoms in the days

1667
01:01:44,110 --> 01:01:44,850
ahead.

1668
01:01:45,090 --> 01:01:48,090
This is a constitutional crisis.

1669
01:01:48,090 --> 01:01:49,570
That we are in today.

1670
01:01:49,630 --> 01:01:51,170
Let's call it what it is.

1671
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:54,050
The people get to decide how we defend

1672
01:01:54,050 --> 01:01:56,210
the United States of America.

1673
01:01:56,210 --> 01:01:59,250
The people get to decide how their taxpayer

1674
01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:00,510
money is spent.

1675
01:02:00,810 --> 01:02:02,790
Elon Musk does not get to decide.

1676
01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:06,590
We are here to save lives because that

1677
01:02:06,590 --> 01:02:08,070
is what AID does.

1678
01:02:08,810 --> 01:02:12,250
And no one elected Elon Musk to dismantle

1679
01:02:12,250 --> 01:02:12,490
it.

1680
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:15,430
Elon Musk, where are you?

1681
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:18,870
Bring your ass over here so you can

1682
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:19,390
see.

1683
01:02:19,930 --> 01:02:22,070
Finally, Maxine Waters is back.

1684
01:02:22,270 --> 01:02:23,090
Who's here?

1685
01:02:23,370 --> 01:02:26,630
This is like a bank robber trying to

1686
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:29,830
fire the cops and turn off the alarms

1687
01:02:29,830 --> 01:02:32,810
just before he strolls into the lobby.

1688
01:02:33,050 --> 01:02:34,310
That is what they are doing.

1689
01:02:34,450 --> 01:02:37,370
They are dismantling the federal government, which will

1690
01:02:37,370 --> 01:02:41,410
deny the American people the services and the

1691
01:02:41,410 --> 01:02:45,530
resources that allow them to help to raise

1692
01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:48,490
their families, have a secure economy and a

1693
01:02:48,490 --> 01:02:49,950
secure future for themselves.

1694
01:02:50,110 --> 01:02:51,470
I mean, it goes on and on and

1695
01:02:51,470 --> 01:02:51,690
on.

1696
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:52,950
And keep playing.

1697
01:02:53,090 --> 01:02:53,410
You didn't.

1698
01:02:53,530 --> 01:02:54,570
You said I could stop.

1699
01:02:55,050 --> 01:03:00,010
Every time you hear Doge, the Department of

1700
01:03:00,010 --> 01:03:03,990
Government Efficiency, you just remember it is the

1701
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:05,530
Department of Government Evil.

1702
01:03:07,210 --> 01:03:10,270
While we're sitting here, Donald Trump and Elon

1703
01:03:10,270 --> 01:03:14,050
Musk are recklessly and illegally dismantling the federal

1704
01:03:14,050 --> 01:03:18,510
government, shuttering federal agencies, firing federal workers, withholding

1705
01:03:18,510 --> 01:03:20,990
funds vital to the safety and well-being

1706
01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:23,930
of our communities and hacking our sensitive data

1707
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:24,390
systems.

1708
01:03:24,910 --> 01:03:26,970
Now, we should in no way be cooperating

1709
01:03:26,970 --> 01:03:29,490
with House Republicans who want to shut down

1710
01:03:29,490 --> 01:03:33,290
the Department of Education and destroy Medicare and

1711
01:03:33,290 --> 01:03:33,610
Medicaid.

1712
01:03:33,610 --> 01:03:35,330
And we should not stand by as the

1713
01:03:35,330 --> 01:03:38,210
richest man on the planet gives himself and

1714
01:03:38,210 --> 01:03:41,330
his companies huge tax cuts while the American

1715
01:03:41,330 --> 01:03:43,570
people get absolutely nothing.

1716
01:03:44,010 --> 01:03:46,790
Doge staff to carry out this agenda across

1717
01:03:46,790 --> 01:03:48,210
all these agencies.

1718
01:03:48,530 --> 01:03:48,890
All right.

1719
01:03:48,930 --> 01:03:49,730
So I have four clips.

1720
01:03:49,810 --> 01:03:50,910
Then I'll let you go with your clips.

1721
01:03:51,030 --> 01:03:52,390
I just know I don't have anything that

1722
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:52,930
tops that.

1723
01:03:53,010 --> 01:03:54,770
I want to mention something, though.

1724
01:03:55,890 --> 01:03:59,290
This idiot, Waltz, Tim, tampon, Tim, as they

1725
01:03:59,290 --> 01:03:59,870
call him.

1726
01:03:59,870 --> 01:04:06,750
He's gloating about the downturn in Tesla stock.

1727
01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:09,690
The pensioners in Minnesota.

1728
01:04:09,950 --> 01:04:13,330
Hold like 127 million shares or some crazy

1729
01:04:13,330 --> 01:04:13,430
amount.

1730
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:15,370
Yeah, some outrageous number of shares.

1731
01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:17,650
And he's happy that they're losing their ass?

1732
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:18,510
Are you kidding me?

1733
01:04:18,590 --> 01:04:19,970
He doesn't know what he's talking about.

1734
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:23,390
But the attacks on Tesla are interesting because,

1735
01:04:24,330 --> 01:04:26,870
and if you just scroll through a timeline,

1736
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:30,170
you'll see all of these, you know, these

1737
01:04:30,170 --> 01:04:33,130
Tesla's have, you know, 20 cameras or whatever

1738
01:04:33,130 --> 01:04:33,750
it is.

1739
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:34,850
I know it's funny.

1740
01:04:35,030 --> 01:04:37,430
So when someone keys the car, then, you

1741
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:39,430
know, you're on camera and then, you know,

1742
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:41,830
they're they're busting people for this.

1743
01:04:41,970 --> 01:04:44,650
And, you know, and I'll get to what

1744
01:04:44,650 --> 01:04:45,590
I think this is in a minute.

1745
01:04:45,630 --> 01:04:48,430
But first, two quick clips from Anderson Cooper

1746
01:04:48,430 --> 01:04:49,050
360.

1747
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:54,830
New Tesla safety concerns after another violent act

1748
01:04:54,830 --> 01:04:56,350
of vandalism against the company.

1749
01:04:56,350 --> 01:04:59,070
This was a targeted attack against a Tesla

1750
01:04:59,070 --> 01:04:59,590
facility.

1751
01:05:00,170 --> 01:05:02,150
The most recent happening Tuesday in Las Vegas.

1752
01:05:02,730 --> 01:05:04,770
Police say a person dressed in black shot

1753
01:05:04,770 --> 01:05:07,250
and set fire to several Tesla vehicles at

1754
01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:08,090
a repair facility.

1755
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:10,750
The word resist was spray painted on the

1756
01:05:10,750 --> 01:05:11,150
building.

1757
01:05:11,710 --> 01:05:13,890
The FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force is now

1758
01:05:13,890 --> 01:05:16,650
conducting an investigation in order to identify the

1759
01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:18,070
suspect and a motive.

1760
01:05:18,590 --> 01:05:21,950
Violent acts like this are unacceptable regardless of

1761
01:05:21,950 --> 01:05:22,710
where they occur.

1762
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:25,310
And specifically to those who might think that

1763
01:05:25,310 --> 01:05:28,970
something like this is justifiable or potentially even

1764
01:05:28,970 --> 01:05:29,590
admirable.

1765
01:05:30,130 --> 01:05:31,270
We want to let you know it's a

1766
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:32,010
federal crime.

1767
01:05:32,450 --> 01:05:33,570
We will come after you.

1768
01:05:33,690 --> 01:05:35,830
We will find you and prosecute you to

1769
01:05:35,830 --> 01:05:37,170
the fullest extent of the law.

1770
01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:39,710
Justice Department officials announced just days ago that

1771
01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:42,230
24-year-old Daniel Clark Pounder has been

1772
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:45,130
arrested in connection with a Molotov cocktail attack

1773
01:05:45,130 --> 01:05:47,670
on a Tesla charging station in South Carolina.

1774
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:50,050
CNN has reached out to his attorney for

1775
01:05:50,050 --> 01:05:50,570
comment.

1776
01:05:50,990 --> 01:05:53,490
If convicted, he faces up to 20 years

1777
01:05:53,490 --> 01:05:54,370
in federal prison.

1778
01:05:54,370 --> 01:05:57,130
So this is so out of control.

1779
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:59,750
And I would have to say the Democrat

1780
01:05:59,750 --> 01:06:03,470
representatives, they're the ones who are stoking this

1781
01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:03,710
up.

1782
01:06:03,790 --> 01:06:05,130
I mean, just listen to what they're saying.

1783
01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:06,370
You heard it in the supercut.

1784
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:08,330
So they had to take action.

1785
01:06:09,690 --> 01:06:13,290
And there was something called the Tesla takedown

1786
01:06:13,290 --> 01:06:17,310
call, which we know is like, that's kind

1787
01:06:17,310 --> 01:06:19,970
of like the gay guys for Harris, white

1788
01:06:19,970 --> 01:06:22,370
dudes for Harris, Hollywood for Harris.

1789
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:24,470
They're doing the Zoom calls again.

1790
01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:27,390
And so they bring on this very weak

1791
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:30,130
lady, young lady who is the host of

1792
01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:30,570
the call.

1793
01:06:30,810 --> 01:06:32,970
And they bring in a bunch of actors

1794
01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:36,270
and people telling you what to do and

1795
01:06:36,270 --> 01:06:37,170
what not to do.

1796
01:06:37,850 --> 01:06:41,890
And this was great because they bring in

1797
01:06:41,890 --> 01:06:44,890
Alex Winter, who has a movie to promote.

1798
01:06:45,550 --> 01:06:47,770
Alex Winter is from Bill and Ted's Excellent

1799
01:06:47,770 --> 01:06:48,270
Adventure.

1800
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:49,550
Okay.

1801
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:50,310
Dude.

1802
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:51,390
Hey, dude.

1803
01:06:52,030 --> 01:06:53,310
Hey, man.

1804
01:06:53,790 --> 01:06:57,650
I think they have another, like the third

1805
01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:59,530
movie in the series coming out.

1806
01:07:00,010 --> 01:07:01,470
And so they're bringing all these people in.

1807
01:07:01,610 --> 01:07:04,730
They bring on Alex Winter, an actor who

1808
01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:06,890
proceeds to read a script.

1809
01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:10,390
Alex Winter is an actor, director and writer

1810
01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:12,450
who has worked across film, television and theater.

1811
01:07:12,770 --> 01:07:15,030
As an actor, Winter recently co-starred in

1812
01:07:15,030 --> 01:07:17,450
the anticipated third installment in the Bill and

1813
01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:18,070
Ted franchise.

1814
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:20,190
Please welcome Alex Winter.

1815
01:07:20,670 --> 01:07:21,330
How's it going?

1816
01:07:21,470 --> 01:07:22,190
Thanks so much, Annie.

1817
01:07:22,250 --> 01:07:23,370
It's really great to have you here.

1818
01:07:23,870 --> 01:07:25,350
I like that he says it's very great

1819
01:07:25,350 --> 01:07:27,090
to have you here, even though that was

1820
01:07:27,090 --> 01:07:27,610
her line.

1821
01:07:27,730 --> 01:07:29,870
I'm not quite sure where that went wrong

1822
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:31,830
in the script, but that was incorrect.

1823
01:07:32,290 --> 01:07:33,010
Alex Winter.

1824
01:07:33,450 --> 01:07:34,130
How's it going?

1825
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:35,010
Thanks so much, Annie.

1826
01:07:35,070 --> 01:07:36,190
It's really great to have you here.

1827
01:07:36,650 --> 01:07:38,250
And great to see everybody on this thing.

1828
01:07:38,930 --> 01:07:40,510
Like most of the world, I was appalled

1829
01:07:40,510 --> 01:07:44,210
by Elon Musk's Nazi salute, which kicked off

1830
01:07:44,210 --> 01:07:45,890
his all-out assault on our government.

1831
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:48,310
And I wasn't surprised to see people protesting

1832
01:07:48,310 --> 01:07:49,350
him soon after that.

1833
01:07:49,350 --> 01:07:51,430
There was a protest in early February at

1834
01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:53,310
a Tesla store that caught my eye because

1835
01:07:53,310 --> 01:07:56,430
only one person ticketing attracted a huge group

1836
01:07:56,430 --> 01:07:59,490
of bystanders who were also being adversely affected

1837
01:07:59,490 --> 01:08:02,210
by Musk and his criminal actions would doge.

1838
01:08:02,990 --> 01:08:05,290
Then more protests sprouted up in mid-February

1839
01:08:05,290 --> 01:08:07,210
and I decided to protest at a Tesla

1840
01:08:07,210 --> 01:08:08,150
store in my town.

1841
01:08:08,830 --> 01:08:10,130
And I expected it to just be me

1842
01:08:10,130 --> 01:08:11,150
and maybe one other person.

1843
01:08:11,290 --> 01:08:12,450
But when I got there with my little

1844
01:08:12,450 --> 01:08:14,690
sign, there were dozens of protesters.

1845
01:08:14,890 --> 01:08:16,450
And within an hour, there were close to

1846
01:08:16,450 --> 01:08:16,870
a hundred.

1847
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:19,630
I'm a big believer in non-violent protests

1848
01:08:19,630 --> 01:08:21,210
as protected by the First Amendment.

1849
01:08:21,529 --> 01:08:24,649
It's a constitutional right and it's foundational to

1850
01:08:24,649 --> 01:08:25,590
a working democracy.

1851
01:08:26,330 --> 01:08:28,290
And it's been wild to see the tens

1852
01:08:28,290 --> 01:08:31,069
of thousands of citizens around the world who

1853
01:08:31,069 --> 01:08:34,430
are now organizing these grassroots, non-violent Tesla

1854
01:08:34,430 --> 01:08:35,430
takedown protests.

1855
01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:37,609
The grassroots, non-violent.

1856
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:39,050
They're like parties.

1857
01:08:39,390 --> 01:08:40,250
Hold on a second.

1858
01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:43,090
He's not a very good actor.

1859
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:43,670
No.

1860
01:08:43,930 --> 01:08:46,510
Is he actually looking down and reading it?

1861
01:08:47,069 --> 01:08:48,470
He's reading off his screen.

1862
01:08:48,670 --> 01:08:49,149
You can see it.

1863
01:08:49,149 --> 01:08:49,390
Oh, he's reading.

1864
01:08:49,569 --> 01:08:49,790
Okay.

1865
01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:51,910
Because it just sounds...

1866
01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:53,550
I mean, he's not a good prompter reader

1867
01:08:53,550 --> 01:08:53,950
either.

1868
01:08:54,069 --> 01:08:55,990
I mean, this doesn't sound natural in the

1869
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:56,350
least.

1870
01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:57,370
It sounds terrible.

1871
01:08:57,569 --> 01:08:59,450
But the fact that he lent himself for

1872
01:08:59,450 --> 01:09:01,210
this and what they're trying to do is

1873
01:09:01,210 --> 01:09:04,130
they're trying to calm it down because they

1874
01:09:04,130 --> 01:09:05,170
know it's out of control.

1875
01:09:05,270 --> 01:09:06,290
They know they're complicit.

1876
01:09:06,430 --> 01:09:07,109
And when I say they...

1877
01:09:07,109 --> 01:09:09,609
So that's why he's emphasizing non-violent.

1878
01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:10,130
Exactly.

1879
01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:12,090
It's grassroots too.

1880
01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:13,029
Grassroots, non-violent.

1881
01:09:13,149 --> 01:09:14,490
Grassroots, non-violent.

1882
01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:16,229
Mostly peaceful protests.

1883
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:18,270
And it's been wild to see the tens

1884
01:09:18,270 --> 01:09:21,029
of thousands of citizens around the world who

1885
01:09:21,029 --> 01:09:24,370
are now organizing these grassroots, non-violent Tesla

1886
01:09:24,370 --> 01:09:25,490
takedown protests.

1887
01:09:26,050 --> 01:09:28,210
They're like parties with dancing and music.

1888
01:09:28,350 --> 01:09:29,649
One had a mariachi band.

1889
01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:31,970
We had marching bands.

1890
01:09:32,090 --> 01:09:34,170
Another one had Joan Baez playing her guitar

1891
01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:34,890
in Palo Alto.

1892
01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:35,830
It was pretty rad.

1893
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:37,770
Oh, it's just a party.

1894
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:39,109
There's mariachi bands.

1895
01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:40,870
There's no one keying Teslas.

1896
01:09:40,970 --> 01:09:42,670
There's no one firebombing Teslas.

1897
01:09:42,770 --> 01:09:44,310
There's no Molotov cocktails.

1898
01:09:44,310 --> 01:09:47,649
But you know, Elon Musk is a Nazi.

1899
01:09:48,130 --> 01:09:50,090
But I think the Tesla takedown matters for

1900
01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:51,310
several key reasons.

1901
01:09:51,750 --> 01:09:53,350
One is that it gives many people a

1902
01:09:53,350 --> 01:09:55,530
means to get out in peaceful protests to

1903
01:09:55,530 --> 01:09:56,550
make their voices heard.

1904
01:09:56,710 --> 01:09:58,030
Very important right now.

1905
01:09:58,390 --> 01:10:00,550
And it also matters because it helps people

1906
01:10:00,550 --> 01:10:03,270
to learn the facts about the reckless and

1907
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:06,150
deadly activities of Musk and Doge that are

1908
01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:07,770
impacting people directly.

1909
01:10:08,210 --> 01:10:10,270
But as far as actually taking Tesla down,

1910
01:10:10,770 --> 01:10:12,330
I don't think it's actually on any of

1911
01:10:12,330 --> 01:10:12,990
the protesters.

1912
01:10:13,550 --> 01:10:15,770
Elon Musk only has himself to blame for

1913
01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:16,770
tanking this company.

1914
01:10:17,530 --> 01:10:20,130
Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave

1915
01:10:20,130 --> 01:10:23,330
that Nazi salute and followed it with his

1916
01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:25,850
brutal attack on the lives of ordinary citizens.

1917
01:10:26,150 --> 01:10:27,250
It's all on Elon.

1918
01:10:27,530 --> 01:10:28,690
There is no conspiracy.

1919
01:10:29,210 --> 01:10:31,290
There is no well-funded cabal.

1920
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:32,550
Yes, there is.

1921
01:10:32,610 --> 01:10:34,490
It's just Elon Musk who has taken Tesla

1922
01:10:34,490 --> 01:10:34,790
down.

1923
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:36,950
Why would you even say there's no well

1924
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:40,050
-funded cabal when you're literally reading the script

1925
01:10:40,050 --> 01:10:42,930
given to you at least a funded cabal?

1926
01:10:43,210 --> 01:10:44,150
Come on.

1927
01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:45,110
It's all on Elon.

1928
01:10:45,370 --> 01:10:46,550
There is no conspiracy.

1929
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:49,150
There is no well-funded cabal.

1930
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:51,290
It's just Elon Musk who has taken Tesla

1931
01:10:51,290 --> 01:10:51,670
down.

1932
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:54,350
And meanwhile, the protests will continue to grow.

1933
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:56,830
They won't stop until Musk is stopped.

1934
01:10:57,130 --> 01:10:59,330
That means more people in the streets, more

1935
01:10:59,330 --> 01:11:01,270
people learning the facts about his attack on

1936
01:11:01,270 --> 01:11:04,110
our democracy, more people who aren't afraid of

1937
01:11:04,110 --> 01:11:06,250
standing up to corruption and bullies.

1938
01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:08,730
There are millions and millions of us.

1939
01:11:08,730 --> 01:11:11,190
And when we all stand together in solidarity,

1940
01:11:11,470 --> 01:11:12,390
that's when we win.

1941
01:11:13,090 --> 01:11:15,490
What this is, as far as I can

1942
01:11:15,490 --> 01:11:19,970
take, is a globalist takedown action against American

1943
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:20,790
manufacturing.

1944
01:11:21,610 --> 01:11:25,510
I think the truly wealthy, many of them

1945
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:29,070
Democrats, probably more of them Democrat than Republican,

1946
01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:32,190
they just don't want American manufacturing.

1947
01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:35,070
And okay, Elon's an easy target.

1948
01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:37,490
You know me, I'm not a fan of

1949
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:38,090
Elon Musk.

1950
01:11:38,090 --> 01:11:39,610
No, that's true.

1951
01:11:39,730 --> 01:11:43,410
You're actually pretty skeptical about Elon Musk in

1952
01:11:43,410 --> 01:11:43,770
general.

1953
01:11:44,050 --> 01:11:46,270
But he is manufacturing stuff.

1954
01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:49,250
He is making cars here as well.

1955
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:50,130
Yes, in China.

1956
01:11:50,530 --> 01:11:51,630
He is building rockets here.

1957
01:11:51,630 --> 01:11:53,190
Yeah, but he's not bringing the Chinese cars

1958
01:11:53,190 --> 01:11:53,590
here.

1959
01:11:54,170 --> 01:11:55,390
No, no, that's true.

1960
01:11:55,670 --> 01:11:56,130
That's true.

1961
01:11:56,570 --> 01:11:58,390
He's making the cars he sells here are

1962
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:58,930
made here.

1963
01:11:59,090 --> 01:12:02,810
So let's check in with our favorite protege,

1964
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:03,590
Kara Swisher.

1965
01:12:03,850 --> 01:12:06,450
Let's hear how she feels about Elon Musk.

1966
01:12:06,590 --> 01:12:07,350
Well, it's very typical.

1967
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:09,010
This is how he conducts himself all the

1968
01:12:09,010 --> 01:12:09,230
time.

1969
01:12:09,310 --> 01:12:11,050
He's always in a state of high drama,

1970
01:12:11,210 --> 01:12:12,110
high agitation.

1971
01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:13,890
He did this when Tesla was in big

1972
01:12:13,890 --> 01:12:14,190
trouble.

1973
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:15,490
He had to sleep on the floor of

1974
01:12:15,490 --> 01:12:16,950
the factory, even though there was a hotel

1975
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:18,350
next door because it was dramatic.

1976
01:12:18,970 --> 01:12:20,810
He thinks he's the center of the universe,

1977
01:12:21,010 --> 01:12:22,150
which is really strange.

1978
01:12:22,290 --> 01:12:23,890
He's very into video games.

1979
01:12:24,590 --> 01:12:26,030
And so I think he thinks he's sort

1980
01:12:26,030 --> 01:12:27,050
of ready player one.

1981
01:12:27,710 --> 01:12:30,430
He thinks nothing can happen without his existence.

1982
01:12:30,770 --> 01:12:32,610
He often used to say, if Tesla failed,

1983
01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:34,770
the human race was doomed to me on

1984
01:12:34,770 --> 01:12:36,610
a number of occasions, things like that.

1985
01:12:36,610 --> 01:12:40,070
So, you know, it's massive narcissism with a

1986
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:42,450
lot of talent and a lot of PR

1987
01:12:42,450 --> 01:12:44,350
and a lot of drama.

1988
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:46,510
And that's what you're seeing right now.

1989
01:12:46,650 --> 01:12:48,170
The word he likes to use is hardcore,

1990
01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:50,790
which is just hustle porn.

1991
01:12:50,930 --> 01:12:51,790
It's just a different way.

1992
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:53,190
They do this in Silicon Valley.

1993
01:12:53,310 --> 01:12:54,550
They sleep under their desks.

1994
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:56,710
They think this is an accomplishment to show

1995
01:12:56,710 --> 01:12:57,510
how committed they are.

1996
01:12:57,570 --> 01:12:58,530
It just means they're exhausted.

1997
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:00,510
You know, this is what he does.

1998
01:13:00,550 --> 01:13:01,310
He's up all night.

1999
01:13:01,630 --> 01:13:03,830
And so, you know, I work on weekends.

2000
01:13:03,950 --> 01:13:04,910
That's my superpower.

2001
01:13:05,370 --> 01:13:07,150
Caitlin, I know you work on weekends and

2002
01:13:07,150 --> 01:13:07,630
so do I.

2003
01:13:07,730 --> 01:13:09,090
I don't think we consider it a superpower.

2004
01:13:10,230 --> 01:13:11,350
And, you know, he stuff like that.

2005
01:13:11,390 --> 01:13:12,790
He wants and he also likes to criticize

2006
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:15,190
people relentlessly about how lazy they are, how

2007
01:13:15,190 --> 01:13:15,470
stupid.

2008
01:13:15,730 --> 01:13:17,350
And you saw that in the New York

2009
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:18,910
Times piece, the same thing.

2010
01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:21,330
So this was actually quite a mild piece

2011
01:13:21,330 --> 01:13:22,190
by Kara Swisher.

2012
01:13:22,290 --> 01:13:25,450
But contrast that with Kara Swisher talking about

2013
01:13:25,450 --> 01:13:29,430
Elon Musk before he bought Twitter, which, of

2014
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:31,990
course, was the Democrat messaging machine.

2015
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:34,470
And so I think he gets annoyed when,

2016
01:13:34,770 --> 01:13:36,590
you know, people don't see the grand vision

2017
01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:37,250
of what he's doing.

2018
01:13:37,290 --> 01:13:39,070
And what he's doing is incredibly hard.

2019
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:41,050
What he's executed on has been so impressive,

2020
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:43,670
you know, in terms of the car and

2021
01:13:43,670 --> 01:13:47,030
the space, this SpaceX, just the rocket stuff

2022
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:50,390
is really astonishing achievements at the same time.

2023
01:13:50,410 --> 01:13:52,110
And he does have to build a company.

2024
01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:56,090
But, you know, it's a really interesting situation.

2025
01:13:56,990 --> 01:13:58,790
You know, I think the suggestions that he's

2026
01:13:58,790 --> 01:14:01,090
crazy because he goes on Twitter and he

2027
01:14:01,090 --> 01:14:02,430
seems to be playful on Twitter.

2028
01:14:02,590 --> 01:14:04,070
I'm not sure people, I think people are

2029
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:06,490
reading too much into it as candy company

2030
01:14:06,490 --> 01:14:08,490
or various things he's doing.

2031
01:14:08,690 --> 01:14:10,490
He's just messing with people.

2032
01:14:10,690 --> 01:14:11,490
He's like that.

2033
01:14:11,730 --> 01:14:13,970
Having had a number of encounters with him

2034
01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:17,090
and small tips, and I've had a number

2035
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:18,910
of them, he's just like that.

2036
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:20,250
And I appreciate it.

2037
01:14:20,290 --> 01:14:21,790
I have to say, compared to a lot

2038
01:14:21,790 --> 01:14:23,410
of people who are polite to your face

2039
01:14:23,410 --> 01:14:26,090
and not behind your back, he's pretty much,

2040
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:27,650
you know, what you see is what you

2041
01:14:27,650 --> 01:14:27,910
get.

2042
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:29,310
And this is what you get when you

2043
01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:33,370
have someone this creative, this innovative, and this

2044
01:14:33,370 --> 01:14:34,710
certain of his vision.

2045
01:14:35,190 --> 01:14:36,190
Oh my, oh my, Kara.

2046
01:14:36,890 --> 01:14:38,250
I see what you were doing to try

2047
01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:40,030
to move my stuff out of the way.

2048
01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:41,950
You had this old clip.

2049
01:14:42,410 --> 01:14:42,730
Yeah.

2050
01:14:43,190 --> 01:14:43,970
Yeah, it was a good one.

2051
01:14:44,090 --> 01:14:45,630
Who found that for you?

2052
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:47,410
That one, I came across that.

2053
01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:49,670
The what, the old clip or the new

2054
01:14:49,670 --> 01:14:49,870
clip?

2055
01:14:50,270 --> 01:14:50,730
The second one.

2056
01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:51,530
Oh, that was on Twitter.

2057
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:53,390
That was on X.

2058
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:55,790
Oh, Musk probably dug it up.

2059
01:14:55,810 --> 01:14:56,990
Of course, of course he did.

2060
01:14:56,990 --> 01:15:00,270
Now, it's so out of hand that Musk

2061
01:15:00,270 --> 01:15:03,330
went on Hannity, friendly fire, to go say,

2062
01:15:03,470 --> 01:15:04,830
what is going on here?

2063
01:15:04,970 --> 01:15:05,230
Why?

2064
01:15:05,730 --> 01:15:08,250
Why do I see people like, I woke

2065
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:11,230
up this morning and saw that Teslas were

2066
01:15:11,230 --> 01:15:14,890
put ablaze in one of your dealerships in

2067
01:15:14,890 --> 01:15:15,650
Vegas.

2068
01:15:16,010 --> 01:15:17,970
I've seen this happen all over the country.

2069
01:15:18,190 --> 01:15:19,110
Bullets are being fired.

2070
01:15:19,290 --> 01:15:20,910
Charging stations are put ablaze.

2071
01:15:21,070 --> 01:15:22,810
Teslas are being put ablaze.

2072
01:15:23,470 --> 01:15:23,710
Ablaze, I tell you.

2073
01:15:23,710 --> 01:15:28,350
You've experienced assassination, threats of assassination for you

2074
01:15:28,350 --> 01:15:29,050
and your family.

2075
01:15:29,890 --> 01:15:32,350
What have you done that warrants this?

2076
01:15:32,650 --> 01:15:35,270
Because I see nothing that you have done

2077
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:36,370
except help our country.

2078
01:15:38,270 --> 01:15:40,350
Yeah, I mean, it's really come as quite

2079
01:15:40,350 --> 01:15:41,830
a shock to me that there is this

2080
01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:46,110
level of really hatred and violence from the

2081
01:15:46,110 --> 01:15:46,450
left.

2082
01:15:48,370 --> 01:15:51,770
I always thought the left, the Democrats were

2083
01:15:51,770 --> 01:15:53,890
supposed to be the party of empathy, the

2084
01:15:53,890 --> 01:15:54,690
party of caring.

2085
01:15:55,310 --> 01:15:57,050
And yet, they're burning down cars.

2086
01:15:57,250 --> 01:15:59,190
They're firebombing dealerships.

2087
01:15:59,390 --> 01:16:02,530
They're firing bullets into dealerships.

2088
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:05,490
They're smashing up Teslas.

2089
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:07,350
Tesla is a peaceful company.

2090
01:16:07,390 --> 01:16:08,310
We've never done anything awful.

2091
01:16:09,610 --> 01:16:10,630
I've never done anything awful.

2092
01:16:10,750 --> 01:16:11,790
I've only done productive things.

2093
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:16,990
So I think we just have a deranged,

2094
01:16:18,290 --> 01:16:19,950
there's some kind of mental illness thing going

2095
01:16:19,950 --> 01:16:21,570
on here because this doesn't make any sense.

2096
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:26,990
That's a great line.

2097
01:16:27,070 --> 01:16:28,050
I think there's some kind of...

2098
01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:28,450
Really?

2099
01:16:28,750 --> 01:16:29,050
Gambling?

2100
01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:32,510
I think there's a mental illness thing going

2101
01:16:32,510 --> 01:16:32,970
on here.

2102
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:34,390
There's some kind of mental illness thing going

2103
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:36,030
on here because this doesn't make any sense.

2104
01:16:37,070 --> 01:16:39,390
I think there are larger forces at work

2105
01:16:39,390 --> 01:16:39,690
as well.

2106
01:16:39,790 --> 01:16:41,150
I mean, I don't know who's funding it

2107
01:16:41,150 --> 01:16:43,810
and who's coordinating it because this is crazy.

2108
01:16:43,950 --> 01:16:45,130
I've never seen anything like this.

2109
01:16:46,710 --> 01:16:48,470
There's a second part to this that can

2110
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:48,810
be done.

2111
01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:50,630
You actually tweeted out, and I'll put it

2112
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:52,670
on the screen, the level of violence is

2113
01:16:52,670 --> 01:16:53,190
insane.

2114
01:16:53,450 --> 01:16:54,470
It is deeply wrong.

2115
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:58,070
Tesla just makes electric cars and has done

2116
01:16:58,070 --> 01:17:00,330
nothing to deserve these evil attacks.

2117
01:17:01,050 --> 01:17:04,310
You just rescued two astronauts that have been

2118
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:06,290
in space for 286 days.

2119
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:07,770
They were only supposed to be there eight.

2120
01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:10,370
You helped the people in North Carolina, Tennessee,

2121
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:11,070
California.

2122
01:17:11,570 --> 01:17:14,790
You have, I think, the most creative and

2123
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:16,310
innovative car on the market.

2124
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:19,450
You created Starlink for communications that's used by

2125
01:17:19,450 --> 01:17:20,430
hundreds of countries.

2126
01:17:21,310 --> 01:17:23,370
You're working on helping the blind see and

2127
01:17:23,370 --> 01:17:24,310
all of these other things.

2128
01:17:24,490 --> 01:17:26,750
Is it really come down to the basic,

2129
01:17:27,150 --> 01:17:30,010
you're aligned with President Donald Trump, who also

2130
01:17:30,010 --> 01:17:32,950
is a friend of mine, and that you

2131
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:36,510
have identified well over $100 billion in waste,

2132
01:17:36,650 --> 01:17:38,870
fraud, abuse that our federal government never should

2133
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:39,450
have been spending?

2134
01:17:39,550 --> 01:17:40,590
Is that what it comes down to?

2135
01:17:41,930 --> 01:17:45,250
Yeah, it turns out when you take away

2136
01:17:45,250 --> 01:17:50,710
people's, the money they're receiving, fraudulently, they get

2137
01:17:50,710 --> 01:17:51,250
very upset.

2138
01:17:52,430 --> 01:17:54,970
And they basically want to kill me because

2139
01:17:54,970 --> 01:17:56,390
I'm stopping their fraud.

2140
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:59,190
And they want to hurt Tesla because we're

2141
01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:03,930
stopping this terrible waste and corruption in the

2142
01:18:03,930 --> 01:18:04,190
government.

2143
01:18:05,250 --> 01:18:08,190
And, well, I guess they're bad people.

2144
01:18:09,310 --> 01:18:10,930
Bad people will do bad things.

2145
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:11,790
Yeah, okay.

2146
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:16,530
Yeah, it's obviously coordinated and we know who

2147
01:18:16,530 --> 01:18:17,550
it's coordinated by.

2148
01:18:17,690 --> 01:18:19,250
And it's the same people who were calling

2149
01:18:19,250 --> 01:18:22,470
for violence against Donald Trump before he was

2150
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:26,170
president, Maxine Waters, all these people just yelling

2151
01:18:26,170 --> 01:18:27,350
and yelling and yelling.

2152
01:18:29,450 --> 01:18:33,470
And it's gotten, I think that the Tesla

2153
01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:38,270
takedown call is their move to try and

2154
01:18:38,270 --> 01:18:40,390
tamp it down a little bit.

2155
01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:43,170
Yeah, that's absolutely correct.

2156
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:44,250
Someone's going to get hurt.

2157
01:18:44,270 --> 01:18:45,350
You're absolutely right.

2158
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:48,010
Wow, wow, this is a moment, ladies and

2159
01:18:48,010 --> 01:18:49,270
gentlemen, mark the time.

2160
01:18:50,190 --> 01:18:54,830
But what's interesting is this idea, this subtext

2161
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:58,270
of the possibility that the globalists do not

2162
01:18:58,270 --> 01:19:01,830
really want the United States to reestablish itself

2163
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:02,630
as a manufacturing center.

2164
01:19:02,730 --> 01:19:05,210
I'm convinced of it because that's exactly what

2165
01:19:05,210 --> 01:19:06,230
President Trump is doing.

2166
01:19:06,370 --> 01:19:07,590
That's what the tariffs are about.

2167
01:19:07,690 --> 01:19:09,130
That's what everything is about.

2168
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:12,970
They want to keep it in China, Taiwan.

2169
01:19:13,490 --> 01:19:14,690
When I was a kid.

2170
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:15,690
Ah, here we go.

2171
01:19:15,970 --> 01:19:16,230
Nice.

2172
01:19:17,690 --> 01:19:19,450
Well, I think I have, let me see.

2173
01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:23,020
I think I have a, let me see.

2174
01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:23,920
Yes, here we go.

2175
01:19:23,980 --> 01:19:26,620
When you were a kid, we're in the

2176
01:19:26,620 --> 01:19:27,280
rocking chair.

2177
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,020
Yeah, there we go.

2178
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:30,560
Yeah.

2179
01:19:30,860 --> 01:19:33,800
So I was at Berkeley, I was studying

2180
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,320
at the business library and I was reading

2181
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,140
very, this was like 50 years ago.

2182
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:45,200
I'm reading in there, I'm reading documents about

2183
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,040
how the country, how America was, this was

2184
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,440
back 50 years ago.

2185
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,920
How would they, the whole idea is to

2186
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,380
turn America into a service economy.

2187
01:19:54,740 --> 01:19:57,580
And customers, customers for the rest of the

2188
01:19:57,580 --> 01:19:57,800
world.

2189
01:19:59,400 --> 01:19:59,720
Yeah.

2190
01:19:59,900 --> 01:20:01,760
And we're going to be a service economy

2191
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,460
and our manufacturing was designed 50 years ago

2192
01:20:05,460 --> 01:20:06,580
to start going away.

2193
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,300
So we would be bringing stuff in from

2194
01:20:08,300 --> 01:20:10,060
here and there and you put it together

2195
01:20:10,060 --> 01:20:10,340
here.

2196
01:20:10,420 --> 01:20:13,020
Maybe you do whatever you do, but the

2197
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:15,520
whole country would be a service economy because

2198
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,720
the globalists see everything, they don't see it

2199
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,260
as you have, they don't see any reason

2200
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:24,020
in a globalist sense that we should be

2201
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:25,500
building anything.

2202
01:20:27,380 --> 01:20:27,940
Why?

2203
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:29,700
You just be a service economy.

2204
01:20:30,260 --> 01:20:32,520
And if the world was a perfect place,

2205
01:20:32,540 --> 01:20:33,460
yeah, that'd be great.

2206
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,880
If no one was ever going to attack

2207
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,300
you.

2208
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:39,100
Yeah.

2209
01:20:39,380 --> 01:20:41,060
Or try to steal your stuff.

2210
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,940
Well, I mean, we can't, you can't create

2211
01:20:45,940 --> 01:20:50,080
an economy that's just based upon me cooking

2212
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,380
for you, you shining my shoes, that guy

2213
01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:53,320
washing my car.

2214
01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:55,580
I mean, eventually the money has just been

2215
01:20:55,580 --> 01:20:55,800
flowing.

2216
01:20:55,940 --> 01:21:00,100
That's the whole Trump doctrine.

2217
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:02,440
That's what the tariffs are about.

2218
01:21:02,860 --> 01:21:04,680
And believe me, I think he's really going

2219
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:05,820
to put them on and he'll put them

2220
01:21:05,820 --> 01:21:08,740
on for good or until people come to

2221
01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:09,340
their senses.

2222
01:21:09,660 --> 01:21:11,440
I think I have a clip about that.

2223
01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:14,370
Where is it?

2224
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:18,090
Yeah, I think this is it.

2225
01:21:18,170 --> 01:21:20,530
This is from Candinavia, CBC.

2226
01:21:20,810 --> 01:21:23,030
And we are going to make the country

2227
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:25,990
more affordable for working Americans.

2228
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:29,070
The US Trade Secretary is offering new insight

2229
01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:31,430
into the Trump administration's tariff plan.

2230
01:21:31,810 --> 01:21:34,450
During an interview airing on Fox News, Scott

2231
01:21:34,450 --> 01:21:37,150
Besant offered a roadmap of what to expect

2232
01:21:37,150 --> 01:21:38,290
starting next month.

2233
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:41,130
What's going to happen on April 2nd, each

2234
01:21:41,130 --> 01:21:44,690
country will receive a number that we believe

2235
01:21:44,690 --> 01:21:46,690
represents their tariffs.

2236
01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:50,130
So for some countries, it could be quite

2237
01:21:50,130 --> 01:21:50,450
low.

2238
01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:52,670
For some countries, it could be quite high.

2239
01:21:53,070 --> 01:21:55,450
A senior Canadian government source says it is

2240
01:21:55,450 --> 01:21:57,730
believed the number will be the new tariff

2241
01:21:57,730 --> 01:21:58,070
rate.

2242
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:00,430
Besant said it will be determined on how

2243
01:22:00,430 --> 01:22:03,470
fair the Trump administration views the trading relationship

2244
01:22:03,470 --> 01:22:06,630
and take into consideration tariffs imposed on US

2245
01:22:06,630 --> 01:22:08,950
goods and other trade-related barriers.

2246
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:11,190
He says it will be the starting point

2247
01:22:11,190 --> 01:22:12,190
for a negotiation.

2248
01:22:12,710 --> 01:22:15,770
If you will stop this, we will not

2249
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:16,890
put up the tariff wall.

2250
01:22:17,190 --> 01:22:19,670
If you do, then we will put up

2251
01:22:19,670 --> 01:22:21,890
the tariff wall to protect our economy, protect

2252
01:22:21,890 --> 01:22:24,570
our workers, and protect our industry.

2253
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:27,390
This appears to be at odds with some

2254
01:22:27,390 --> 01:22:29,130
of what the president has said before.

2255
01:22:29,490 --> 01:22:31,970
Just yesterday, Donald Trump seemed to warn that

2256
01:22:31,970 --> 01:22:34,370
tariffs would be imposed on April 2nd.

2257
01:22:34,690 --> 01:22:38,190
April 2nd is liberation day for our country

2258
01:22:38,190 --> 01:22:39,890
because we're going to finally be taking in

2259
01:22:39,890 --> 01:22:40,190
money.

2260
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:42,430
In a statement to CBC News, the White

2261
01:22:42,430 --> 01:22:42,890
House cautioned...

2262
01:22:42,890 --> 01:22:43,750
How does that contradict?

2263
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:45,290
I don't understand what she just said there.

2264
01:22:45,370 --> 01:22:46,230
How does that contradict?

2265
01:22:48,250 --> 01:22:49,490
What is the contradiction?

2266
01:22:49,630 --> 01:22:51,570
We'll back it up more carefully.

2267
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:55,310
We will not put up the tariff wall.

2268
01:22:55,650 --> 01:22:58,090
If you do, then we will put up

2269
01:22:58,090 --> 01:23:00,350
the tariff wall to protect our economy, protect

2270
01:23:00,350 --> 01:23:03,050
our workers, and protect our industry.

2271
01:23:03,330 --> 01:23:05,810
This appears to be at odds with some

2272
01:23:05,810 --> 01:23:07,550
of what the president has said before.

2273
01:23:07,550 --> 01:23:10,390
Just yesterday, Donald Trump seemed to warn that

2274
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:13,150
tariffs would be imposed on April 2nd.

2275
01:23:13,170 --> 01:23:15,970
April 2nd is liberation day for...

2276
01:23:15,970 --> 01:23:17,710
How is that different from what Besson said?

2277
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:23,490
I think what she's implying is that Trump

2278
01:23:25,550 --> 01:23:28,210
sounds firm with the April 2nd stuff, and

2279
01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:31,150
he sounded like it may or may not

2280
01:23:31,150 --> 01:23:31,670
happen.

2281
01:23:32,710 --> 01:23:33,270
Well...

2282
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:34,470
That's all I can imagine.

2283
01:23:34,610 --> 01:23:34,790
Yeah, okay.

2284
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:38,210
April 2nd is liberation day for our country

2285
01:23:38,210 --> 01:23:39,910
because we're going to finally be taking in

2286
01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:40,210
money.

2287
01:23:40,590 --> 01:23:42,450
In a statement to CBC News, the White

2288
01:23:42,450 --> 01:23:44,690
House cautioned that details have not yet been

2289
01:23:44,690 --> 01:23:47,650
finalized, saying the reciprocal tariff plan has yet

2290
01:23:47,650 --> 01:23:50,130
to be unveiled by President Trump, but adding

2291
01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:52,630
that all members of his team are aligned

2292
01:23:52,630 --> 01:23:53,650
on this policy.

2293
01:23:53,950 --> 01:23:55,830
And Besson is an interesting guy.

2294
01:23:56,110 --> 01:24:00,710
Besides being openly gay and married, never mentioned

2295
01:24:00,710 --> 01:24:02,930
by the M5M because, you know, that would

2296
01:24:02,930 --> 01:24:03,830
kill the narrative.

2297
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:05,630
They never mentioned, they don't talk about Tammy

2298
01:24:05,630 --> 01:24:06,850
Bruce's gay.

2299
01:24:07,150 --> 01:24:07,790
No, can't do that.

2300
01:24:07,790 --> 01:24:10,390
She's a spokesperson for the Defense Department, I

2301
01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:12,650
think, or Pentagon or one of them.

2302
01:24:12,770 --> 01:24:15,050
Besides that, he also is the guy who

2303
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:19,270
worked with the Soros hedge fund when they

2304
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:21,250
broke the Bank of England and shorted the

2305
01:24:21,250 --> 01:24:21,610
pound.

2306
01:24:22,010 --> 01:24:23,010
Oh, that's right, yes.

2307
01:24:23,190 --> 01:24:24,610
This is the guy who knows how to

2308
01:24:24,610 --> 01:24:25,010
do it.

2309
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:26,650
He's a sharp operator.

2310
01:24:26,970 --> 01:24:30,010
Besson also suggested there will be opportunities for

2311
01:24:30,010 --> 01:24:31,390
countries to escape tariffs.

2312
01:24:31,390 --> 01:24:35,750
I'm optimistic that April 2nd, some of the

2313
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:38,330
tariffs may not have to go on because

2314
01:24:38,330 --> 01:24:41,790
a deal is pre-negotiated or that once

2315
01:24:41,790 --> 01:24:45,230
countries receive their reciprocal tariff number, that right

2316
01:24:45,230 --> 01:24:47,330
after that, they will come to us and

2317
01:24:47,330 --> 01:24:48,750
want to negotiate it down.

2318
01:24:49,230 --> 01:24:51,210
It has been an erratic start to the

2319
01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:53,590
Trump presidency when it comes to trade policy.

2320
01:24:54,010 --> 01:24:56,770
Blanket 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

2321
01:24:56,770 --> 01:24:59,550
were threatened, delayed, imposed, and then paused with

2322
01:24:59,550 --> 01:25:02,850
some exceptions, followed by 25% tariffs on

2323
01:25:02,850 --> 01:25:04,710
all steel and aluminum imports.

2324
01:25:05,170 --> 01:25:07,030
Trump has made it no secret he does

2325
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:09,590
not view the Canada-U.S. trading relationship

2326
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:10,310
as fair.

2327
01:25:10,730 --> 01:25:13,470
Canada is absolutely one of the worst.

2328
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:16,810
He's complained about protections for Canadian dairy, made

2329
01:25:16,810 --> 01:25:20,670
false accusations about Canadian banking rules, exaggerated and

2330
01:25:20,670 --> 01:25:22,110
complained about the trade deficit.

2331
01:25:22,490 --> 01:25:24,290
The list goes on and on.

2332
01:25:24,690 --> 01:25:26,270
While the White House did not provide any

2333
01:25:26,270 --> 01:25:28,570
detail about a number or tariff rate for

2334
01:25:28,570 --> 01:25:31,730
Canada, it is a frequent target of Trump's

2335
01:25:31,730 --> 01:25:32,090
anger.

2336
01:25:32,990 --> 01:25:37,930
And Canada is making some weird moves, like

2337
01:25:37,930 --> 01:25:40,010
canceling part of the order for the F

2338
01:25:40,010 --> 01:25:40,430
-35.

2339
01:25:42,210 --> 01:25:43,910
This is very dumb.

2340
01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:49,260
The F-35 has long been a political

2341
01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:52,260
football in Canada, and it seems destined to

2342
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:53,120
be one again.

2343
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,600
The defense minister raised the issue with me.

2344
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,120
The issue, says Prime Minister Mark Carney, is

2345
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,640
whether the F-35 is the right warplane

2346
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:01,220
for Canada.

2347
01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:03,840
The fact is that under the contract, as

2348
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,160
you may know, after a certain number of

2349
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,980
purchases, then we have options on subsequent aircrafts.

2350
01:26:10,980 --> 01:26:13,340
Canada has already paid for its first tranche

2351
01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:16,000
of 16 F-35s to be delivered in

2352
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:16,900
the next few years.

2353
01:26:17,420 --> 01:26:19,800
It planned to buy 88 in total from

2354
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,720
defense contractor Lockheed Martin for $19 billion.

2355
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,620
But that could change.

2356
01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:26,140
Defense Minister Bill Blair.

2357
01:26:26,500 --> 01:26:27,940
The prime minister has asked me to go

2358
01:26:27,940 --> 01:26:30,160
and examine those things and have discussions with

2359
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,680
other sources, particularly where there may be opportunities

2360
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,880
to assemble those fighter jets in Canada to

2361
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,320
properly support them and maintain them in Canada.

2362
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,800
That is a very obvious reference to the

2363
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,160
company that placed second in Canada's fighter jet

2364
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,680
competition, Saab, the Swedish defense giant with its

2365
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,080
Gripen E fighter jet, which it offered to

2366
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,060
assemble in Canada.

2367
01:26:50,780 --> 01:26:52,660
Reducing the number of F-35s bought from

2368
01:26:52,660 --> 01:26:54,280
the U.S., as much as it may

2369
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,260
feel good politically and play well with an

2370
01:26:56,260 --> 01:26:58,380
angry public, would not be easy.

2371
01:26:58,820 --> 01:27:01,760
Dude, what are they doing?

2372
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,420
That, I don't, I don't think you can't

2373
01:27:06,420 --> 01:27:08,300
just, you know, go ahead and, oh, we'll

2374
01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:09,260
change this out.

2375
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,700
I mean, you'll have, well, they're going to

2376
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:11,840
have Saab jets now.

2377
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,140
That means that, well, in fact, you'll have

2378
01:27:14,140 --> 01:27:15,500
to supply change.

2379
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,220
You need different runways.

2380
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,400
This is the wrong weapon system to reconsider.

2381
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,540
Retired General Tom Lawson is the country's former

2382
01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:27,360
top military commander and a former consultant for

2383
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,020
Lockheed Martin.

2384
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:30,720
He says operating two types of fighters is

2385
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,200
something the military doesn't want to do.

2386
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,900
It's costly, two training regims, two supply chains

2387
01:27:36,900 --> 01:27:38,020
and separate hangars.

2388
01:27:38,500 --> 01:27:41,320
Lawson also warns any further delays risk wearing

2389
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,340
out the current CF-18s.

2390
01:27:43,540 --> 01:27:45,760
There's a very real scenario where everything gets

2391
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,160
delayed to the point where there are no

2392
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,360
fighters flying in Canada for a period of

2393
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:50,600
time.

2394
01:27:50,860 --> 01:27:52,640
And that would be a further blow to

2395
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,100
Canada's struggling air force.

2396
01:27:54,500 --> 01:27:56,940
New documents obtained by CBC News show only

2397
01:27:56,940 --> 01:28:00,120
40% of RCAF aircraft are serviceable and

2398
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,260
ready to fly and fight.

2399
01:28:01,540 --> 01:28:03,720
We don't have war stocks to sustain a

2400
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:03,920
fight.

2401
01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:06,400
Critics have suggested the F-35 should be

2402
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,780
dropped because it's vulnerable to U.S. interference.

2403
01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:11,980
Former test pilot, retired Lieutenant Colonel Billy Flynn

2404
01:28:11,980 --> 01:28:14,560
says the same could be said for all

2405
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,420
U.S. military software and weapons supply chains.

2406
01:28:17,660 --> 01:28:20,680
There is nothing unique about the vulnerability of

2407
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:21,320
the F-35.

2408
01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:24,420
Reducing Canada's F-35 purchase could also affect

2409
01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:25,940
aerospace firms in this country.

2410
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:28,700
To date, 3.5 billion dollars of Canadian

2411
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:30,300
parts have gone into the program.

2412
01:28:30,660 --> 01:28:33,580
Contracts that could be vulnerable depending on the

2413
01:28:33,580 --> 01:28:35,300
direction the political wind is blowing.

2414
01:28:36,380 --> 01:28:39,660
So I look at the map of Canada

2415
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,760
and the provinces are very interesting, particularly the

2416
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,900
ones that connect to the United States border.

2417
01:28:48,020 --> 01:28:50,200
And there's moves being made.

2418
01:28:50,380 --> 01:28:51,420
This is a great guy.

2419
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:55,980
In Alberta, which now does I think that

2420
01:28:55,980 --> 01:28:57,500
borders on Washington state.

2421
01:28:59,060 --> 01:29:01,560
Uh, Alberta, pretty.

2422
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,600
I think mostly B.C. is Washington state

2423
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,900
and Alberta is probably over Montana, Idaho, maybe

2424
01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:11,000
a touch of Washington.

2425
01:29:11,260 --> 01:29:12,680
Let me just let me just see real

2426
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:13,020
quick.

2427
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:14,080
No, you're right.

2428
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:14,800
You're right.

2429
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,320
The border is on Montana.

2430
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:20,220
But you know, it's connected to us and

2431
01:29:20,220 --> 01:29:22,160
there's there's moves being made.

2432
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,560
What we're proposing to do first and foremost

2433
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,180
is to free Alberta from governance by idiots

2434
01:29:28,180 --> 01:29:29,580
in Ontario and Quebec.

2435
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,300
So I'm involved.

2436
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,060
I've been involved with an organization called the

2437
01:29:34,060 --> 01:29:36,380
Alberta Prosperity Project for a number of years.

2438
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,580
Interestingly, we're now up to over 60,000

2439
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:40,560
members, which is more members than the United

2440
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,620
Conservative Party of Alberta at this point.

2441
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,600
We're a number of the organization's goal is

2442
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,200
to educate Albertans on the benefits of independence,

2443
01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:56,620
free of the structural problems caused by Canadian

2444
01:29:56,620 --> 01:30:01,540
federalism, which has effectively turned Alberta and Albertans

2445
01:30:01,540 --> 01:30:05,160
into colonized citizens of, you know, into a

2446
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,760
colony of Quebec and Ontario, which we're all

2447
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,200
sorely fed up with.

2448
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:11,600
So, you know, myself and a number of

2449
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:15,680
other Albertans have decided that enough is enough.

2450
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:17,960
We're tired of being governed by complete idiots.

2451
01:30:18,220 --> 01:30:20,480
And we're at a unique point in history

2452
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:25,120
with the newly elected Trump administration to, you

2453
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,660
know, send a delegation to Washington to discuss

2454
01:30:28,660 --> 01:30:32,200
with the Trump administration their support for Alberta

2455
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,660
independence and to gauge their, you know, to

2456
01:30:34,660 --> 01:30:36,880
gauge the level of support in the Trump

2457
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,540
administration for an independent Alberta free of Canada,

2458
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:45,340
to gauge their support for Alberta either becoming

2459
01:30:45,340 --> 01:30:46,980
a U.S. territory or a U.S.

2460
01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:47,240
state.

2461
01:30:47,420 --> 01:30:48,220
Yeah, baby.

2462
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,280
We'd have a big foam finger sticking up

2463
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:52,900
into Canada.

2464
01:30:54,620 --> 01:30:57,020
Alberta, where all the wealth is.

2465
01:30:57,380 --> 01:30:57,520
Right.

2466
01:30:59,220 --> 01:31:02,720
Alberta is the key to the whole country

2467
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,440
in so far as, you know, balancing the

2468
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:07,800
budget because all the energy they have there.

2469
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:08,820
Yeah, the oil, right?

2470
01:31:09,460 --> 01:31:12,120
Yeah, oil, shale, shale oil and oil and

2471
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:12,980
everything else.

2472
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:13,740
A lot of stuff.

2473
01:31:13,820 --> 01:31:14,860
I bet there's interest.

2474
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:18,400
Well, that ain't got none of this.

2475
01:31:18,580 --> 01:31:19,940
It's pretty funny.

2476
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,180
Yeah, that's all I can say.

2477
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,300
Yeah, well, it definitely caused a stir.

2478
01:31:23,540 --> 01:31:24,840
He has 60,000 members.

2479
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,160
That's that's not bad.

2480
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,540
I thought that was interesting.

2481
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,120
Oh, well, you got me on that one.

2482
01:31:32,740 --> 01:31:33,400
You're up.

2483
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,080
OK, well, let's just take a look at

2484
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,320
the policing and the Chinese police in the

2485
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,240
United States and the big scandal that's taking

2486
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:41,700
place.

2487
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,000
That's still going on.

2488
01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:45,320
That started up again because now they're going

2489
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:46,440
to pass some laws.

2490
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:48,380
Some the Congress is getting involved.

2491
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,000
A group of Republican lawmakers in the House

2492
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,860
have introduced a bill to combat China's efforts

2493
01:31:53,860 --> 01:31:57,140
to establish secretive police stations on American soil.

2494
01:31:57,620 --> 01:32:00,100
Congresswoman Ashley Hinson, who sits on the House

2495
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,460
Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, introduced

2496
01:32:02,460 --> 01:32:05,200
the expel illegal Chinese Police Act of twenty

2497
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,580
twenty five last week.

2498
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,940
The committee's chairman, Congressman John Molinar, co-led

2499
01:32:09,940 --> 01:32:10,300
the bill.

2500
01:32:11,180 --> 01:32:13,260
Joining us now to discuss these latest efforts

2501
01:32:13,260 --> 01:32:15,720
to combat the CCP's operations in the U

2502
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,700
.S. is Jimmy Quinn, national security correspondent at

2503
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:19,820
the National Review.

2504
01:32:19,820 --> 01:32:22,240
Jimmy, thank you so much for joining us.

2505
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:23,360
Good to have you with us again.

2506
01:32:23,500 --> 01:32:25,940
Now, first, what are these secretive Chinese police

2507
01:32:25,940 --> 01:32:26,240
stations?

2508
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,160
What are they doing on U.S. soil?

2509
01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:31,980
What these Chinese police stations are doing is

2510
01:32:31,980 --> 01:32:33,640
they are involved in repression.

2511
01:32:34,180 --> 01:32:36,460
They're involved in political outreach to U.S.

2512
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:37,080
politicians.

2513
01:32:37,740 --> 01:32:39,600
It's a violation of America's sovereignty.

2514
01:32:39,780 --> 01:32:41,680
What they are, in short, are these offices

2515
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,940
that are set up within other legitimate seeming

2516
01:32:45,940 --> 01:32:49,540
community organizations that already exist in the United

2517
01:32:49,540 --> 01:32:50,000
States.

2518
01:32:50,140 --> 01:32:52,400
These might be groups for, you know, just

2519
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,980
ordinary people in the Chinese diaspora who want

2520
01:32:54,980 --> 01:32:56,680
to get together with other people from their

2521
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:57,120
hometown.

2522
01:32:57,620 --> 01:33:00,040
Many of them have been co-opted, actually,

2523
01:33:00,580 --> 01:33:04,940
by the PRC and the Chinese Communist Party.

2524
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,940
And these people are forced to set up

2525
01:33:07,940 --> 01:33:08,900
a police station.

2526
01:33:09,860 --> 01:33:11,480
And, you know, the claim by the Chinese

2527
01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:14,000
government is that they're just processing paperwork, helping

2528
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,600
people with their driver's licenses.

2529
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,740
But the thing to know is that these

2530
01:33:18,740 --> 01:33:20,740
are not approved by the U.S. government.

2531
01:33:21,060 --> 01:33:23,840
These are illegal law enforcement outposts in our

2532
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,340
country, in this case, in the middle of

2533
01:33:26,340 --> 01:33:26,780
Manhattan.

2534
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:27,780
Manhattan.

2535
01:33:28,020 --> 01:33:30,500
It's something that everyone should be aware of.

2536
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:31,660
So this one was shut down.

2537
01:33:31,740 --> 01:33:33,200
There might be two more in the country,

2538
01:33:33,380 --> 01:33:35,820
according to some research out there.

2539
01:33:36,180 --> 01:33:38,980
But it's a very scary situation.

2540
01:33:39,180 --> 01:33:40,040
There are only two.

2541
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:41,380
Only two left.

2542
01:33:42,380 --> 01:33:44,260
That's what he says, but who knows.

2543
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,000
But the question comes to mind every time

2544
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,220
I hear this kind of story.

2545
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,660
And this TV show, it's on CBS, is

2546
01:33:54,660 --> 01:33:56,580
FBI International.

2547
01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:00,520
Isn't that an oxymoron?

2548
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,200
What's the FBI doing?

2549
01:34:03,700 --> 01:34:07,600
And the show's about various FBI offices around

2550
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,100
the world.

2551
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,240
How's that different than this?

2552
01:34:10,580 --> 01:34:13,680
Or what about the spy stations, Berlin Station,

2553
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,920
or these places that the CIA runs that

2554
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,040
are in other countries?

2555
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:18,340
How's that different?

2556
01:34:18,660 --> 01:34:22,040
You know, just there's one page that was

2557
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,880
removed from the CIA JFK file drop.

2558
01:34:26,660 --> 01:34:31,320
And it is the page about the CIA's

2559
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,120
involvement in non-governmental organizations.

2560
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,600
It's now gone.

2561
01:34:36,700 --> 01:34:37,700
It's gone from the website.

2562
01:34:37,860 --> 01:34:41,400
About how official cover is necessary to enable

2563
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,080
our officers to work overseas in often hostile

2564
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,260
and volatile environments.

2565
01:34:45,940 --> 01:34:53,420
That's why CIA uses State Department cover companies.

2566
01:34:55,850 --> 01:34:57,330
You know, yeah, we do this.

2567
01:34:58,910 --> 01:35:01,070
But do these Chinese police, do they wear

2568
01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:02,770
uniforms and have billy clubs?

2569
01:35:03,950 --> 01:35:05,590
And hats and helmets?

2570
01:35:06,150 --> 01:35:08,130
I mean, it just doesn't make a...

2571
01:35:08,130 --> 01:35:13,090
Just kind of, the story just baffles me

2572
01:35:13,090 --> 01:35:15,110
somewhat because of the fact that we do

2573
01:35:15,110 --> 01:35:15,790
this everywhere.

2574
01:35:15,790 --> 01:35:16,510
Yeah.

2575
01:35:17,770 --> 01:35:19,290
And now the Chinese, you know, they're accused

2576
01:35:19,290 --> 01:35:21,250
of, well, the problem with this, the Chinese

2577
01:35:21,250 --> 01:35:24,770
police, they look for Chinese that are over

2578
01:35:24,770 --> 01:35:26,230
here and then they go over to find,

2579
01:35:26,330 --> 01:35:30,190
you're Chinese, you should be promoting China or

2580
01:35:30,190 --> 01:35:30,570
something.

2581
01:35:31,130 --> 01:35:32,170
Just beyond me.

2582
01:35:32,230 --> 01:35:34,410
I guess we, maybe we don't do that.

2583
01:35:34,530 --> 01:35:35,430
I'm not sure.

2584
01:35:35,650 --> 01:35:38,350
Well, we don't use restaurants as cover, that's

2585
01:35:38,350 --> 01:35:38,770
for sure.

2586
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:40,230
Yeah.

2587
01:35:40,770 --> 01:35:42,270
This is good food involved.

2588
01:35:42,410 --> 01:35:42,690
Okay.

2589
01:35:43,730 --> 01:35:44,610
Part two.

2590
01:35:44,610 --> 01:35:47,390
And to your point, Congressman John Muellenaar saying,

2591
01:35:47,650 --> 01:35:50,310
quote, these stations represent a direct threat to

2592
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:52,970
our national security and undermine the rule of

2593
01:35:52,970 --> 01:35:54,250
law in the United States.

2594
01:35:54,250 --> 01:35:57,330
What would this legislation do in terms of

2595
01:35:57,330 --> 01:35:58,450
combating this?

2596
01:35:58,750 --> 01:36:03,050
So this bill goes after the agencies and

2597
01:36:03,050 --> 01:36:05,930
the officials within the People's Republic of China

2598
01:36:05,930 --> 01:36:08,630
and the Chinese Communist Party who are involved

2599
01:36:08,630 --> 01:36:11,650
in this program, both here and in China.

2600
01:36:11,650 --> 01:36:14,950
It would impose full blocking sanctions on certain

2601
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:17,990
officials who are involved in running the police

2602
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:18,370
station.

2603
01:36:18,490 --> 01:36:20,670
Typically, it's the Ministry of Public Security.

2604
01:36:21,250 --> 01:36:24,430
But as we learned through the federal indictment

2605
01:36:24,430 --> 01:36:26,570
of the two men who operated the station

2606
01:36:26,570 --> 01:36:30,810
in Manhattan, the Chinese consulate is involved as

2607
01:36:30,810 --> 01:36:32,070
well here in New York.

2608
01:36:32,230 --> 01:36:34,690
So Chinese diplomatic outposts are involved.

2609
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:37,050
So there's this kind of alphabet soup of

2610
01:36:37,050 --> 01:36:42,630
different PRC security agencies, diplomatic arms that play

2611
01:36:42,630 --> 01:36:44,730
a role in operating the police stations.

2612
01:36:45,370 --> 01:36:48,330
So what these lawmakers are trying to do

2613
01:36:48,330 --> 01:36:50,250
is they're trying to go directly after the

2614
01:36:50,250 --> 01:36:54,590
people who run this operation and make sure

2615
01:36:54,590 --> 01:36:56,550
they can't enter the U.S., they can't

2616
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:59,430
access assets that they might have here or

2617
01:36:59,430 --> 01:37:03,050
conduct transactions with U.S. individuals.

2618
01:37:03,930 --> 01:37:05,790
So that's very important.

2619
01:37:06,110 --> 01:37:07,870
And there's also a component of the bill

2620
01:37:07,870 --> 01:37:11,270
which bans people who are found to be

2621
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:13,750
operating these stations from setting foot in the

2622
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:14,430
United States.

2623
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:16,050
You have these visa bans as well.

2624
01:37:16,370 --> 01:37:18,810
You know, I think the use of the

2625
01:37:18,810 --> 01:37:23,730
term police station, that sounds propagandistic to me.

2626
01:37:25,250 --> 01:37:27,330
I mean, there are no, actually, it's not

2627
01:37:27,330 --> 01:37:30,650
like there's a shield on the door and

2628
01:37:30,650 --> 01:37:32,350
they've got a front desk and they've got

2629
01:37:32,350 --> 01:37:32,850
a jail.

2630
01:37:33,010 --> 01:37:34,650
I mean, this is conjuring up images.

2631
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:36,530
The sergeant at the front desk.

2632
01:37:36,710 --> 01:37:38,950
Yeah, and this is NTD, of course, who

2633
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:41,350
hate the Chinese Communist Party.

2634
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:44,390
But they're not the only ones that use

2635
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:45,050
the term.

2636
01:37:45,610 --> 01:37:47,650
No, I mean, I'm saying the term is

2637
01:37:47,650 --> 01:37:51,570
being used purposefully to conjure up images that

2638
01:37:51,570 --> 01:37:52,390
may be.

2639
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:56,610
Yeah, like there's an alien police station.

2640
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:58,390
Yeah, now you're thinking UFO.

2641
01:37:58,390 --> 01:38:02,230
In your city, that is the Chinese, the

2642
01:38:02,230 --> 01:38:05,990
Communist Chinese Party is running this police station

2643
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:07,170
in San Francisco.

2644
01:38:07,470 --> 01:38:10,850
I mean, you could say a safe house

2645
01:38:10,850 --> 01:38:11,690
for spies.

2646
01:38:11,970 --> 01:38:13,510
And there's all kinds of different ways you

2647
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:15,150
could describe it.

2648
01:38:15,710 --> 01:38:18,350
But police station is very specific.

2649
01:38:21,150 --> 01:38:24,270
Yeah, I agree 100% with you.

2650
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:26,870
Oh, my God, that's two in a show.

2651
01:38:27,130 --> 01:38:27,890
Hello, is this?

2652
01:38:27,950 --> 01:38:29,110
I do it all the time.

2653
01:38:29,210 --> 01:38:31,210
I'm always, yeah, this shows we can be

2654
01:38:31,210 --> 01:38:32,770
kind of like K-Part and that other

2655
01:38:32,770 --> 01:38:34,910
guy, Brooks and K-Part.

2656
01:38:34,930 --> 01:38:36,230
What, are you calling me K-Part?

2657
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:37,630
You're the K-Part.

2658
01:38:37,750 --> 01:38:38,530
I'll be Brooks.

2659
01:38:38,770 --> 01:38:40,090
I'm not going to be K-Part.

2660
01:38:40,210 --> 01:38:40,910
No, no.

2661
01:38:40,990 --> 01:38:42,450
Now, zooming out a bit, we hear a

2662
01:38:42,450 --> 01:38:44,650
lot of talk about the long arm of

2663
01:38:44,650 --> 01:38:47,750
the CCP where Chinese dissidents, human rights activists

2664
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:50,190
or members of faith groups and ethnic minorities

2665
01:38:50,190 --> 01:38:52,790
like say the Uyghurs, Tibetans, Falun Gong are

2666
01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:55,070
targeted even on US soil.

2667
01:38:55,610 --> 01:38:56,650
Talk to us about that.

2668
01:38:56,730 --> 01:39:00,010
How is the CCP effectively operating on US

2669
01:39:00,010 --> 01:39:00,310
soil?

2670
01:39:01,030 --> 01:39:02,850
What your viewers need to know is that

2671
01:39:02,850 --> 01:39:04,770
there's this thing called the United Front.

2672
01:39:04,930 --> 01:39:07,630
It's a concept that the party has run

2673
01:39:07,630 --> 01:39:11,370
throughout its history, stretching back basically to its

2674
01:39:11,370 --> 01:39:11,750
founding.

2675
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:14,450
We're talking about the early, you know, 20th

2676
01:39:14,450 --> 01:39:16,530
century through the 1930s.

2677
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:18,990
And it's a strategy that the party has

2678
01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:22,110
used to basically co-opt people who aren't

2679
01:39:22,110 --> 01:39:24,750
officially party members to get them to do

2680
01:39:24,750 --> 01:39:25,810
the party's bidding.

2681
01:39:26,370 --> 01:39:29,370
And it just tries to convene people.

2682
01:39:29,390 --> 01:39:30,850
It operates through them.

2683
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:34,130
It's kind of the lifeblood of the entire

2684
01:39:34,130 --> 01:39:38,190
system where people will, different agencies within the

2685
01:39:38,190 --> 01:39:42,030
CCP, and within the PRC, will turn to

2686
01:39:42,030 --> 01:39:44,970
United Front actors and they'll ask them to

2687
01:39:44,970 --> 01:39:47,830
do things like hunt down a dissident as

2688
01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:52,030
we saw in this case where the defendants

2689
01:39:52,030 --> 01:39:55,210
in the Chinese police station indictment are alleged

2690
01:39:55,210 --> 01:39:57,490
to have worked with the Ministry of Public

2691
01:39:57,490 --> 01:40:00,390
Security to find dissidents on US soil.

2692
01:40:01,130 --> 01:40:02,770
So the United Front is here.

2693
01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:08,170
It's dangerous and it's very influential, unfortunately.

2694
01:40:08,170 --> 01:40:10,410
And it's kind of the connective tissue for

2695
01:40:10,410 --> 01:40:14,530
all of these malign, long-arm repression activities.

2696
01:40:15,130 --> 01:40:15,810
Very concerning, indeed.

2697
01:40:15,930 --> 01:40:17,950
Jimmy Quinn, thank you so much for joining

2698
01:40:17,950 --> 01:40:18,230
us.

2699
01:40:18,850 --> 01:40:20,950
How's it different than a spy?

2700
01:40:21,150 --> 01:40:22,130
Very concerning, indeed.

2701
01:40:22,450 --> 01:40:24,410
Well, this brings me to something I was

2702
01:40:24,410 --> 01:40:25,230
hoping would come up.

2703
01:40:25,850 --> 01:40:29,190
We love listening to how people speak in

2704
01:40:29,190 --> 01:40:33,290
the mainstream and NTD is mainstream of sorts.

2705
01:40:34,490 --> 01:40:38,850
We have discovered the term apophora, which is

2706
01:40:38,850 --> 01:40:40,650
when someone says why and then answers the

2707
01:40:40,650 --> 01:40:41,090
question.

2708
01:40:41,610 --> 01:40:43,730
There's another one that I bumped up against,

2709
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:48,910
which is the explanation for terms like dictator,

2710
01:40:49,730 --> 01:40:50,650
ally.

2711
01:40:51,050 --> 01:40:52,750
That's a favorite one right now.

2712
01:40:53,650 --> 01:40:54,970
Trump's ally.

2713
01:40:58,070 --> 01:41:00,790
Police station is actually another one.

2714
01:41:01,250 --> 01:41:05,550
And it's called emotive conjugation.

2715
01:41:08,010 --> 01:41:09,650
And I had not heard of this term,

2716
01:41:10,390 --> 01:41:13,050
but it's real simple when it's explained.

2717
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:16,490
And I found a clip of Eric Weinstein

2718
01:41:17,070 --> 01:41:20,410
explaining this concept, which was developed by Russell

2719
01:41:20,410 --> 01:41:21,110
Bertrand.

2720
01:41:21,390 --> 01:41:24,970
You're looking for emotive conjugation or Russell conjugation.

2721
01:41:25,170 --> 01:41:27,050
Turns out Bertrand Russell had been here earlier.

2722
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:29,730
And in 1948, he was on the BBC

2723
01:41:30,530 --> 01:41:32,830
and he said, let's look at the construction.

2724
01:41:33,210 --> 01:41:34,030
I am firm.

2725
01:41:34,270 --> 01:41:35,270
You are obstinate.

2726
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:37,230
He, she, or it is a pigheaded fool.

2727
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:39,530
And that was just a moment where I

2728
01:41:39,530 --> 01:41:42,690
said, oh my gosh, I don't realize that

2729
01:41:42,690 --> 01:41:45,570
I have been given no extra information about

2730
01:41:45,570 --> 01:41:48,170
the three conjugations that he's gone through.

2731
01:41:48,330 --> 01:41:49,970
And yet I feel differently.

2732
01:41:50,330 --> 01:41:52,030
I like the fact that somebody is firm

2733
01:41:52,030 --> 01:41:54,010
and steadfast, and I dislike the fact that

2734
01:41:54,010 --> 01:41:54,930
somebody is pigheaded.

2735
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:58,370
And then I realized that this could actually

2736
01:41:58,370 --> 01:42:01,510
be weaponized and as part of an arms

2737
01:42:01,510 --> 01:42:03,830
race, that maybe the newspapers were in fact

2738
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:07,350
conjugating President Strongman dictator.

2739
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:10,870
And so I remembered this very strange phrase

2740
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:11,770
from years past.

2741
01:42:12,030 --> 01:42:13,870
Panamanian Strongman, Manuel Noriega.

2742
01:42:14,210 --> 01:42:15,650
And I thought who would come up with

2743
01:42:15,650 --> 01:42:19,290
a construction that awkward and always invariant.

2744
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:20,970
And then everyone- And then everyone uses

2745
01:42:20,970 --> 01:42:21,170
it.

2746
01:42:21,290 --> 01:42:21,490
Exactly.

2747
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:23,050
Hawkish, he's hawkish.

2748
01:42:23,290 --> 01:42:25,350
And so what I came to understand is

2749
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:27,530
that the big boys don't play around with

2750
01:42:27,530 --> 01:42:28,790
faking the facts.

2751
01:42:29,130 --> 01:42:31,610
What they realized is that we have multiple

2752
01:42:31,610 --> 01:42:33,210
opinions on everything.

2753
01:42:33,210 --> 01:42:36,130
But our emotional state selects which opinion.

2754
01:42:36,450 --> 01:42:39,090
And the person who figured this out is

2755
01:42:39,090 --> 01:42:39,990
Frank Luntz.

2756
01:42:40,210 --> 01:42:42,370
And Frank Luntz is a Republican pollster.

2757
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:44,570
There's a video of him where he asks

2758
01:42:44,570 --> 01:42:48,410
people, what do you think about undocumented workers?

2759
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:51,030
Oh, they're doing a great job and we

2760
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:52,550
have to recognize their contribution.

2761
01:42:52,710 --> 01:42:54,630
Well, do you support illegal aliens?

2762
01:42:54,890 --> 01:42:55,910
No, no, no, they should be deported.

2763
01:42:56,250 --> 01:42:56,370
Yeah.

2764
01:42:56,650 --> 01:42:57,470
In an instant.

2765
01:42:57,650 --> 01:42:59,090
And then you can see that the mind

2766
01:42:59,090 --> 01:43:00,470
doesn't see itself.

2767
01:43:00,630 --> 01:43:02,450
And so we are both for and against

2768
01:43:02,450 --> 01:43:03,050
everything.

2769
01:43:03,050 --> 01:43:04,430
I love this.

2770
01:43:06,130 --> 01:43:07,450
Of course, we've seen it.

2771
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:08,730
We call it out, but I never knew

2772
01:43:08,730 --> 01:43:09,490
it had a term.

2773
01:43:12,380 --> 01:43:14,020
Yeah, it's an awkward term.

2774
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,760
It's not a good term.

2775
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,260
As a term, it sucks.

2776
01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:19,940
Yeah.

2777
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,920
But like newcomers, there's another one we've identified.

2778
01:43:23,900 --> 01:43:24,780
Yeah, newcomers.

2779
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,660
I'd like to figure out where the what

2780
01:43:31,660 --> 01:43:37,300
the usage of the false accusation or false,

2781
01:43:38,980 --> 01:43:41,260
the thing they always keep using with Trump.

2782
01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:43,120
False equivalence?

2783
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,040
No, no, not false equivalence.

2784
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,820
Without evidence?

2785
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:46,600
Without evidence?

2786
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:47,180
No, no.

2787
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,720
I'm talking about when they say Trump falsely

2788
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,300
claims that the election was rigged.

2789
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:55,560
Falsely claimed.

2790
01:43:55,700 --> 01:43:57,820
He claims that the election was rigged.

2791
01:43:57,940 --> 01:44:00,000
He doesn't falsely claim it, but they say

2792
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:00,960
falsely claimed.

2793
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:01,680
Uh-huh.

2794
01:44:02,300 --> 01:44:03,120
That construction.

2795
01:44:03,740 --> 01:44:07,060
Where does that fit into the scheme of

2796
01:44:07,060 --> 01:44:07,240
things?

2797
01:44:07,300 --> 01:44:08,460
And I see it all the time with

2798
01:44:08,460 --> 01:44:08,900
Trump.

2799
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,740
They're always throwing a crazy little phrase in

2800
01:44:13,740 --> 01:44:14,400
here and there.

2801
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,340
I think the strongman example is a good

2802
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:17,580
one.

2803
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,040
Yeah, strongman, president, dictator.

2804
01:44:23,140 --> 01:44:24,320
All those terms.

2805
01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:25,520
But we just need to be able...

2806
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:26,980
I mean, we identify them.

2807
01:44:29,060 --> 01:44:30,280
We don't categorize them.

2808
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,020
We just identify them as we do.

2809
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:33,080
Exactly, exactly.

2810
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,180
I'd like to lighten the mood a bit.

2811
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:36,480
Talk.

2812
01:44:36,540 --> 01:44:36,900
Talk.

2813
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:37,340
TikTok.

2814
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:42,220
Yeah, I'm ready.

2815
01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:43,800
Wow, you actually...

2816
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,640
Oh, this is the thanks I get for

2817
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:47,800
saying you were right.

2818
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:48,460
Correct, correct.

2819
01:44:48,620 --> 01:44:49,260
How about that?

2820
01:44:49,420 --> 01:44:50,560
You are right, yes.

2821
01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:51,960
These things always pay off.

2822
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:52,440
They do.

2823
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:53,820
It's a big payoff for you.

2824
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:54,740
Big payday.

2825
01:44:54,860 --> 01:44:56,780
You get to do your trans talk clips.

2826
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,960
Well, let's start with trans women in sports

2827
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:01,920
being okay.

2828
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:03,800
Oh, hold on a second.

2829
01:45:03,940 --> 01:45:05,440
Where is this?

2830
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:05,860
Talk.

2831
01:45:06,740 --> 01:45:07,800
Oh, talk.

2832
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:08,240
Yes.

2833
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:10,500
If your daughter doesn't want to compete against

2834
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:13,380
trans women in sports, maybe your daughter just

2835
01:45:13,380 --> 01:45:14,880
shouldn't play sports.

2836
01:45:14,940 --> 01:45:15,780
Ever thought about that?

2837
01:45:15,860 --> 01:45:18,920
Maybe she just doesn't have that competitive spirit.

2838
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,540
Maybe she's just mediocre.

2839
01:45:21,480 --> 01:45:22,960
Maybe she's not that good.

2840
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:24,020
Because you know what?

2841
01:45:24,100 --> 01:45:25,880
There are cis women that beat out the

2842
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,080
boys every single freaking day.

2843
01:45:28,980 --> 01:45:31,900
So if your daughter is making all of

2844
01:45:31,900 --> 01:45:35,020
these excuses because she thinks that a trans

2845
01:45:35,020 --> 01:45:38,240
woman has biological advantages over her, which is

2846
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:39,980
probably brainwashing that you cause.

2847
01:45:40,340 --> 01:45:43,260
If she's complaining about the biological advantages that

2848
01:45:43,260 --> 01:45:45,420
trans women have, she's going to complain about

2849
01:45:45,420 --> 01:45:48,000
the biological advantages that cis women have, okay?

2850
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,500
What if there's a cis girl on her

2851
01:45:50,500 --> 01:45:52,320
team that's six feet tall?

2852
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:53,180
Is she going to complain?

2853
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,520
What if there's a cis girl on her

2854
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,960
team that has extra large feet and so

2855
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:58,980
has great balance?

2856
01:45:59,220 --> 01:46:00,100
Is she going to complain?

2857
01:46:00,460 --> 01:46:02,140
What if there's a cis girl who has

2858
01:46:02,140 --> 01:46:03,040
extra long arms?

2859
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:03,920
Is she going to complain?

2860
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,000
She's going to complain about every damn thing,

2861
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:06,380
okay?

2862
01:46:06,620 --> 01:46:09,100
So maybe it's time to hang it up,

2863
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:09,420
okay?

2864
01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:12,520
Accept the mediocrity and go on to play

2865
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,420
piano or something like that, okay?

2866
01:46:14,780 --> 01:46:15,060
Okay.

2867
01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:18,920
Well, after this she went outside and keyed

2868
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:20,120
a Tesla, tell me.

2869
01:46:20,420 --> 01:46:21,580
She went right away.

2870
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:22,320
Yes, exactly.

2871
01:46:22,460 --> 01:46:23,040
That's what she did.

2872
01:46:23,260 --> 01:46:25,460
I'm a little concerned.

2873
01:46:25,460 --> 01:46:31,040
It seems your TikTok algorithm is intersecting with

2874
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,740
mine because I've seen these clips.

2875
01:46:33,700 --> 01:46:34,020
Uh-oh.

2876
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,080
Well, here's the trans person.

2877
01:46:36,180 --> 01:46:39,360
This is, I actually have two more.

2878
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,580
This is the trans woman leaving.

2879
01:46:41,780 --> 01:46:43,740
This is a common one we're starting to

2880
01:46:43,740 --> 01:46:44,720
hear more and more of.

2881
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,340
I'm leaving the country and I could use

2882
01:46:47,340 --> 01:46:47,940
a little help.

2883
01:46:48,020 --> 01:46:50,560
As you might imagine, being a trans woman,

2884
01:46:50,780 --> 01:46:53,600
I'm not super excited about the direction this

2885
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:54,780
country is headed.

2886
01:46:54,780 --> 01:46:56,440
I live in an area that is still

2887
01:46:56,440 --> 01:46:59,840
relatively safe for trans people, but I'd rather

2888
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,520
not be here if and when that stops

2889
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:03,420
being the case.

2890
01:47:03,620 --> 01:47:05,540
So I'm leaving by the end of the

2891
01:47:05,540 --> 01:47:08,560
year with my fiancee to live in a

2892
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,880
place that has more constitutional protections for people

2893
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:12,640
like me.

2894
01:47:12,860 --> 01:47:17,320
However, moving is expensive generally, let alone moving

2895
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,960
to a whole ass other country.

2896
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:21,860
Oh, was there a call for a GoFundMe

2897
01:47:21,860 --> 01:47:23,900
on this particular talk clip?

2898
01:47:23,900 --> 01:47:27,280
Since my TikToks tend to come off of

2899
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,360
Twitter, they don't have the connections.

2900
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:33,100
Because a lot of the gay men who

2901
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:37,120
are worried about their rights, they're moving to

2902
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:37,580
Spain.

2903
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,300
The thing is, when you want to move

2904
01:47:43,300 --> 01:47:45,480
to another country, you're going to learn something

2905
01:47:45,480 --> 01:47:46,320
very interesting.

2906
01:47:46,900 --> 01:47:48,820
You can't just show up and say, I

2907
01:47:48,820 --> 01:47:49,700
want to live here.

2908
01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:52,860
There's all kinds of requirements.

2909
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,800
You can't just say, oh, I want to

2910
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:56,640
be a citizen here.

2911
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,540
No, no.

2912
01:47:58,740 --> 01:47:59,620
The EU, no.

2913
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:01,240
You can't just show, well, I mean, if

2914
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,300
you walk across the border from some, you

2915
01:48:04,300 --> 01:48:07,840
know, like from Morocco maybe, or from Algiers

2916
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:08,480
or whatever.

2917
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,960
But no, you can't just go to the

2918
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:13,020
UK, for instance.

2919
01:48:13,540 --> 01:48:16,400
Can't the UK be like, okay, do you

2920
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:16,800
have work?

2921
01:48:16,860 --> 01:48:17,560
Do you have a sponsor?

2922
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,340
These people are going to find that it's

2923
01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:21,640
not as simple as that.

2924
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,600
Then we have the other extreme of these

2925
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:31,540
clips, and this was the trans mom of

2926
01:48:31,540 --> 01:48:34,860
a, or no, a gay mom of a

2927
01:48:34,860 --> 01:48:36,840
trans kid or something.

2928
01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:37,300
I don't know.

2929
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,220
It's hard to say, but in Deerfield, Illinois,

2930
01:48:39,220 --> 01:48:43,600
there's this big brouhaha over this boy who's

2931
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,200
determined that he's a girl, and he shows

2932
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,460
up in the women's locker room and got

2933
01:48:50,460 --> 01:48:52,780
his dick hanging out, and the girls don't

2934
01:48:52,780 --> 01:48:53,340
like that.

2935
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,820
And so there's been a big fuss made

2936
01:48:56,820 --> 01:48:59,680
by the moms.

2937
01:49:00,300 --> 01:49:03,360
And then the school locked the girls in

2938
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,920
there, so you have to change in front

2939
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:05,560
of this kid.

2940
01:49:06,060 --> 01:49:06,700
No, no.

2941
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:07,180
Yes.

2942
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:08,060
Yeah, yeah.

2943
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:09,760
Yeah, absolutely.

2944
01:49:10,060 --> 01:49:10,700
The school did that?

2945
01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:11,520
Yeah.

2946
01:49:11,980 --> 01:49:13,880
And now there's all kinds of lawsuits going

2947
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:14,060
on.

2948
01:49:14,060 --> 01:49:15,680
We have lost our ever-loving mothers.

2949
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,980
But here's what you're dealing with.

2950
01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:23,460
This is the Deerfield clip, and this is

2951
01:49:23,460 --> 01:49:25,680
the woman who comes out, and she just

2952
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:30,040
lays it on the line how good it

2953
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,740
is to protect this trans girl.

2954
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:40,280
Tina Nelson, she, her pronouns, community member and

2955
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,120
part of the LGBTQ community.

2956
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:49,680
Thank you for prioritizing the safety of the

2957
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:54,340
student that's been targeted by a organization that

2958
01:49:54,340 --> 01:49:59,720
weaponizes religion to push the white supremacist agenda

2959
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:01,620
of their cis white husbands.

2960
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:02,240
Church people.

2961
01:50:02,460 --> 01:50:02,800
Excuse me.

2962
01:50:02,900 --> 01:50:03,580
Excuse me.

2963
01:50:03,660 --> 01:50:05,360
This is, it's- I have the mic.

2964
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:06,320
Let's be respectful.

2965
01:50:06,500 --> 01:50:08,320
Please be respectful of each other's times.

2966
01:50:09,980 --> 01:50:14,760
Targeting a middle school student because of your

2967
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:15,600
white god.

2968
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:16,160
Yeah.

2969
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,100
Excuse me.

2970
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,200
Can we pause for a second?

2971
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,460
This is a time for us to listen,

2972
01:50:20,460 --> 01:50:22,520
to hear your viewpoint, and we want to

2973
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:22,960
hear that.

2974
01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:23,320
Okay.

2975
01:50:23,440 --> 01:50:24,560
So, thank you.

2976
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:25,480
Yes.

2977
01:50:25,940 --> 01:50:29,300
So, children that are raised by those who

2978
01:50:29,300 --> 01:50:36,060
hate, vilify, and fearmonger will hate, vilify, and

2979
01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:37,580
fearmonger their peers.

2980
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,120
So, education is super important.

2981
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,040
Sex education is super important.

2982
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,820
And this is just a kid.

2983
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:49,480
And it's, I'm just, I'm really grateful to

2984
01:50:49,480 --> 01:50:52,140
see how full this room is of support

2985
01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:54,860
for this kid instead of the petty women

2986
01:50:54,860 --> 01:50:55,820
that target him.

2987
01:50:56,980 --> 01:50:59,160
I'm glad you gave the backstory because I

2988
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:00,140
wouldn't have understood it.

2989
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,440
And by the way, what is cis white?

2990
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,280
Your cis white husbands.

2991
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:06,780
Yes.

2992
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,800
And your white god.

2993
01:51:08,260 --> 01:51:09,940
And she also makes the point, she said

2994
01:51:09,940 --> 01:51:12,340
she makes the point that these women aren't,

2995
01:51:12,380 --> 01:51:14,460
they don't think for themselves as their cis

2996
01:51:14,460 --> 01:51:17,440
white husbands that think for them.

2997
01:51:17,540 --> 01:51:18,940
That's the only reason it's going on.

2998
01:51:18,940 --> 01:51:20,880
Any of this is going on because of

2999
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:24,640
the cis white husbands that tell these dumb

3000
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,800
women what to do and how to think.

3001
01:51:27,260 --> 01:51:29,640
This woman, and if you look at her,

3002
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,300
she's all tatted up and she's got piercings

3003
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:34,420
and she's got some, there's some creepy kid

3004
01:51:34,420 --> 01:51:38,340
behind her that looks like a goth trans

3005
01:51:38,340 --> 01:51:39,160
of some sort.

3006
01:51:39,940 --> 01:51:42,420
And it's just, it was just cringe, cringey.

3007
01:51:42,580 --> 01:51:44,220
And there's another, it's a term I don't

3008
01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:44,480
like.

3009
01:51:44,580 --> 01:51:46,200
Yeah, that is kind of a term I

3010
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,040
wouldn't expect from you, cringey.

3011
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:49,240
Well, you know what it is.

3012
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:51,440
It's TikTok itself.

3013
01:51:52,180 --> 01:51:53,200
That is the issue.

3014
01:51:54,140 --> 01:51:57,640
That is what is creating, here's another term,

3015
01:51:58,180 --> 01:51:59,400
brain rot.

3016
01:51:59,980 --> 01:52:02,840
Katie Page Rosenberg, a freshman at the University

3017
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:04,300
of North Carolina Asheville.

3018
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,020
Two successes, two failures.

3019
01:52:06,420 --> 01:52:09,700
Recently realized what too much scrolling was doing

3020
01:52:09,700 --> 01:52:10,200
to her.

3021
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,140
How many hours were you spending on your

3022
01:52:12,140 --> 01:52:12,440
phone?

3023
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,120
Oh God, probably like nine.

3024
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,100
I was just kind of constantly on it.

3025
01:52:19,220 --> 01:52:21,920
You may have heard stories like hers before.

3026
01:52:22,260 --> 01:52:25,660
I wasn't able to focus because I would

3027
01:52:25,660 --> 01:52:28,140
have to take out my phone every couple

3028
01:52:28,140 --> 01:52:28,740
of minutes.

3029
01:52:29,060 --> 01:52:31,700
But now you can actually see the science

3030
01:52:31,700 --> 01:52:32,620
behind it.

3031
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,720
Smartphones have wide reaching changes all over the

3032
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,800
brain and specifically it grows here and it

3033
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:38,420
shrinks there.

3034
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:42,240
Psychiatrist Brent Nelson is applying this new science

3035
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,920
at Newport Healthcare, which has mental health treatment

3036
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,200
centers for teens across the country.

3037
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,360
This is a brain that's addicted to a

3038
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:49,720
smartphone.

3039
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,820
These are MRI images from a recent study

3040
01:52:52,820 --> 01:52:53,460
in Korea.

3041
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,880
All the red indicates increases in brain activity,

3042
01:52:57,300 --> 01:52:59,220
the effects of smartphone addiction.

3043
01:52:59,620 --> 01:53:00,920
Do you want your brain to be this

3044
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:01,260
colorful?

3045
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:02,000
You don't.

3046
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:02,560
Why?

3047
01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:05,360
Well, because this is showing where the brain

3048
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,320
is working extra hard compared to a non

3049
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,660
-addicted brain when asked to do actually a

3050
01:53:10,660 --> 01:53:11,600
pretty simple task.

3051
01:53:12,380 --> 01:53:14,360
Yeah, I love, I'm really sad at this

3052
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:19,660
point that I pissed off the brain scientist

3053
01:53:19,660 --> 01:53:20,540
from Austin.

3054
01:53:21,540 --> 01:53:23,020
Because this is the kind of stuff he

3055
01:53:23,020 --> 01:53:23,620
would be doing.

3056
01:53:24,940 --> 01:53:25,480
Remember that?

3057
01:53:26,300 --> 01:53:28,480
Oh yeah, I totally remember it.

3058
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:29,340
That's too bad.

3059
01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:30,680
You were a bad boy.

3060
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:35,220
Yes, I was supporting Trump without admitting I

3061
01:53:35,220 --> 01:53:35,920
was a Republican.

3062
01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:39,140
You never have been a Republican.

3063
01:53:39,340 --> 01:53:40,480
No, but that was his wife.

3064
01:53:40,580 --> 01:53:41,680
She got real mad at me.

3065
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:42,580
That's what happened.

3066
01:53:42,700 --> 01:53:43,740
All right, second part to this.

3067
01:53:43,740 --> 01:53:47,360
Addicted smartphone users' brains were so colorful, so

3068
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,100
active, it made them less attentive and more

3069
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:51,240
easily distracted.

3070
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,540
What's now informally called brain rot.

3071
01:53:54,700 --> 01:53:56,460
What does that look like in real life?

3072
01:53:56,660 --> 01:53:58,160
Yeah, let's take a school, for example.

3073
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,820
Sitting in class and you're trying to focus.

3074
01:54:01,060 --> 01:54:04,620
They're going to be looking around, not attending

3075
01:54:04,620 --> 01:54:06,120
to what the teacher is trying to teach

3076
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:06,360
them.

3077
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:09,820
Dr. Nelson says emerging research points to even

3078
01:54:09,820 --> 01:54:10,940
greater risks.

3079
01:54:11,220 --> 01:54:12,980
We're just starting to see these changes and

3080
01:54:12,980 --> 01:54:16,600
we know they're connected to behavioral changes, depression,

3081
01:54:16,900 --> 01:54:17,440
anxiety.

3082
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:20,120
The dangers are hiding in there.

3083
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,040
Social media had really influenced me in a

3084
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:23,720
lot of ways.

3085
01:54:24,460 --> 01:54:26,860
TikTok would kind of push these videos of

3086
01:54:26,860 --> 01:54:29,920
people popping an edible before school.

3087
01:54:30,380 --> 01:54:33,500
If I do this, maybe I'll be cool.

3088
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,200
And I started self-medicating.

3089
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,940
To deal with that, last year, she checked

3090
01:54:37,940 --> 01:54:39,460
into a treatment facility.

3091
01:54:39,860 --> 01:54:41,960
If you hadn't gone to treatment, where would

3092
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:42,700
you be today?

3093
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,280
I don't think I'd be here.

3094
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,820
It was really bad.

3095
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,100
Katie had to give up her phone in

3096
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:50,480
treatment.

3097
01:54:50,860 --> 01:54:53,620
There, she found other outlets, from drawing to

3098
01:54:53,620 --> 01:54:57,020
playing guitar, that helped rewire her Gen Z

3099
01:54:57,020 --> 01:54:57,620
brain.

3100
01:54:59,220 --> 01:55:04,560
The key, perhaps, analog antidotes reminiscent of another

3101
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:05,540
generation.

3102
01:55:05,940 --> 01:55:07,960
Playing in the dirt, drinking from the hose,

3103
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,100
sort of the Gen X kind of mentality,

3104
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:12,960
is shown to actually allow folks to recover,

3105
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:16,380
to feel better, to make it easier to

3106
01:55:16,380 --> 01:55:17,720
kind of go about their day.

3107
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:18,720
There it is.

3108
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:20,660
Drink from the hose.

3109
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:21,920
Play in the dirt.

3110
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:23,780
Play in the dirt.

3111
01:55:23,820 --> 01:55:25,360
Play in the dirt, children.

3112
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:26,760
That'll fix it.

3113
01:55:27,980 --> 01:55:29,600
Yeah, I'm all in on this.

3114
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:30,380
I can see it.

3115
01:55:30,580 --> 01:55:32,240
Well, you're talking to the wrong guy.

3116
01:55:32,460 --> 01:55:34,880
No, you have no idea what this is.

3117
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,820
I create brain rot on myself sometimes.

3118
01:55:38,740 --> 01:55:41,880
Sometimes on, like, a Monday, which is I

3119
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,240
try to kind of do a little bit

3120
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,960
of a Sabbath, just, you know, when I

3121
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,460
can't get away with it, but at least

3122
01:55:47,460 --> 01:55:49,820
I don't look at news, and I don't,

3123
01:55:49,900 --> 01:55:51,620
you know, I'm just, I'm not doing the

3124
01:55:51,620 --> 01:55:53,380
typical, I'm not doing emails on Monday.

3125
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:54,540
Don't send me an email on Monday.

3126
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:55,940
Goes to the bottom of the stack.

3127
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,520
But then I'll sit on the couch around

3128
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,880
three, like, let me see what's on YouTube.

3129
01:56:01,780 --> 01:56:03,600
And then it'll be five o'clock, and

3130
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:06,680
I've seen a thousand cop body cam videos.

3131
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:09,180
I've seen all kinds of things.

3132
01:56:09,260 --> 01:56:11,160
Like, what did I just do to myself?

3133
01:56:12,260 --> 01:56:13,880
And it goes by real quick.

3134
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:15,080
You don't even realize it.

3135
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,380
It is, there is an addictive quality to

3136
01:56:18,380 --> 01:56:20,320
it, and it rots my brain.

3137
01:56:20,860 --> 01:56:23,000
And then I need two more days to

3138
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,880
recuperate so I can do the Thursday show.

3139
01:56:29,570 --> 01:56:30,610
Well, that's interesting.

3140
01:56:31,950 --> 01:56:33,730
I don't know if it's interesting.

3141
01:56:33,810 --> 01:56:36,450
Baby's been babysitting Theo a couple of times

3142
01:56:36,450 --> 01:56:40,150
because they had to go do some stuff.

3143
01:56:40,150 --> 01:56:42,190
How old is Theo adorable at this point?

3144
01:56:43,250 --> 01:56:43,710
I don't know.

3145
01:56:43,810 --> 01:56:44,410
I have no idea.

3146
01:56:48,650 --> 01:56:49,990
He's your grandkid.

3147
01:56:50,290 --> 01:56:51,810
You don't know how old he is.

3148
01:56:51,810 --> 01:56:53,270
I don't know how old you are.

3149
01:56:53,530 --> 01:56:55,250
This is where you say, he's new, I

3150
01:56:55,250 --> 01:56:55,850
don't remember.

3151
01:57:00,430 --> 01:57:02,450
I don't use that part of my memory

3152
01:57:02,450 --> 01:57:03,510
for that sort of thing.

3153
01:57:03,630 --> 01:57:04,030
Clearly.

3154
01:57:04,670 --> 01:57:06,850
Don't count on John for a birthday present,

3155
01:57:07,190 --> 01:57:07,290
Theo.

3156
01:57:09,850 --> 01:57:15,470
So he can watch, he plays Minecraft.

3157
01:57:16,370 --> 01:57:17,690
He's always yakking about it.

3158
01:57:17,730 --> 01:57:19,170
And I always tell him, I'm not interested.

3159
01:57:19,370 --> 01:57:20,250
I don't want to hear about it.

3160
01:57:20,370 --> 01:57:21,230
And I shut him down.

3161
01:57:21,310 --> 01:57:23,510
Grandpa, grandpa, come look at my Minecraft.

3162
01:57:23,930 --> 01:57:24,770
Look at my blocks.

3163
01:57:25,250 --> 01:57:27,130
And it's just like a terrible game.

3164
01:57:27,550 --> 01:57:29,550
And so it turns out he wants to,

3165
01:57:29,610 --> 01:57:30,930
when he comes over once in a while,

3166
01:57:31,010 --> 01:57:32,690
he wants to watch, of course, his parents

3167
01:57:32,690 --> 01:57:34,190
have now said no more of this.

3168
01:57:34,890 --> 01:57:36,790
I was used to show him, if he

3169
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:38,310
wanted to be entertained on the television.

3170
01:57:38,650 --> 01:57:40,170
Let me guess, let me guess, Russian car

3171
01:57:40,170 --> 01:57:40,870
crash videos?

3172
01:57:40,990 --> 01:57:41,430
Absolutely.

3173
01:57:42,790 --> 01:57:44,010
He loved those.

3174
01:57:44,350 --> 01:57:47,010
Kids love watching Russian car crash videos.

3175
01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:48,590
Just a tip.

3176
01:57:48,710 --> 01:57:49,490
This is the tip of the day.

3177
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:50,070
Tip of the day.

3178
01:57:50,150 --> 01:57:51,430
Early tip of the day, everybody.

3179
01:57:51,850 --> 01:57:56,810
So he wanted to watch some Minecraft videos.

3180
01:57:57,230 --> 01:57:57,950
Oh God.

3181
01:57:58,350 --> 01:58:00,350
And the Minecraft videos are all, talks about

3182
01:58:00,350 --> 01:58:02,470
the various, I don't know if they're cheats

3183
01:58:02,470 --> 01:58:02,910
or whatever.

3184
01:58:03,050 --> 01:58:04,030
It's just so dumb.

3185
01:58:04,190 --> 01:58:05,950
I mean, these blood, the characters are just

3186
01:58:05,950 --> 01:58:06,550
blocks.

3187
01:58:06,710 --> 01:58:08,230
They're just dumb.

3188
01:58:08,650 --> 01:58:10,070
Low res blocks.

3189
01:58:10,210 --> 01:58:10,990
They're just blocks.

3190
01:58:11,450 --> 01:58:11,810
Blocks.

3191
01:58:13,490 --> 01:58:17,370
There must be a 10,000 hours of

3192
01:58:17,370 --> 01:58:19,990
Minecraft videos on YouTube.

3193
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:20,650
Oh yeah.

3194
01:58:20,930 --> 01:58:21,790
Oh, it's a big thing.

3195
01:58:21,850 --> 01:58:22,130
Sure.

3196
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:24,230
It's unbelievable.

3197
01:58:24,570 --> 01:58:26,030
I said, well, you want to watch one?

3198
01:58:26,110 --> 01:58:27,050
He said, yeah, I want to watch that

3199
01:58:27,050 --> 01:58:27,250
one.

3200
01:58:27,390 --> 01:58:28,890
He points at when it's on the screen.

3201
01:58:28,990 --> 01:58:30,290
And I look at it because they have

3202
01:58:30,290 --> 01:58:30,730
the time.

3203
01:58:30,730 --> 01:58:33,170
And the lower right-hand side showing how

3204
01:58:33,170 --> 01:58:33,890
long they are.

3205
01:58:34,430 --> 01:58:36,130
Two and a half hours.

3206
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:36,450
Oh yeah.

3207
01:58:36,530 --> 01:58:37,150
These streams.

3208
01:58:37,370 --> 01:58:37,510
Sure.

3209
01:58:37,610 --> 01:58:38,170
I've seen those.

3210
01:58:38,270 --> 01:58:39,230
I mean, I haven't watched them, but I

3211
01:58:39,230 --> 01:58:39,970
see them pop up.

3212
01:58:40,030 --> 01:58:40,210
Oh yeah.

3213
01:58:40,330 --> 01:58:41,790
Oh my God.

3214
01:58:41,790 --> 01:58:44,150
It's just boring as hell.

3215
01:58:44,590 --> 01:58:44,810
How about this?

3216
01:58:44,910 --> 01:58:45,690
I have an idea.

3217
01:58:45,810 --> 01:58:46,190
I have an idea.

3218
01:58:46,230 --> 01:58:47,630
Here's a grandpa moment.

3219
01:58:48,290 --> 01:58:50,350
Why don't you go out and get a

3220
01:58:50,350 --> 01:58:51,870
huge Lego set?

3221
01:58:52,830 --> 01:58:53,730
He's got Legos.

3222
01:58:53,970 --> 01:58:54,930
Does he like Legos?

3223
01:58:55,430 --> 01:58:55,710
Yeah.

3224
01:58:55,950 --> 01:58:57,650
Well then, but you should buy him a

3225
01:58:57,650 --> 01:58:58,850
set like a, you know, one of those.

3226
01:58:58,990 --> 01:59:00,670
No, we've been by, believe me, we've done

3227
01:59:00,670 --> 01:59:00,950
that.

3228
01:59:01,070 --> 01:59:04,130
He's been bought plenty of Lego sets, but

3229
01:59:04,130 --> 01:59:06,030
he'll still be, he loves Minecraft is such

3230
01:59:06,030 --> 01:59:06,570
an extreme.

3231
01:59:06,690 --> 01:59:07,490
He likes playing it.

3232
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:09,210
Likes learning about it.

3233
01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:10,990
Likes the cheats.

3234
01:59:11,770 --> 01:59:14,070
I think, I don't know what he's watching.

3235
01:59:14,610 --> 01:59:14,730
Yeah.

3236
01:59:14,750 --> 01:59:16,790
Is there, is that like second life where

3237
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:18,630
there's all kinds of sex stuff going on?

3238
01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:19,690
No, I don't think so.

3239
01:59:19,970 --> 01:59:21,050
As far as I guess, there's just a

3240
01:59:21,050 --> 01:59:24,350
bunch of block characters wandering around kicking each

3241
01:59:24,350 --> 01:59:24,550
other.

3242
01:59:24,590 --> 01:59:25,790
It just doesn't make sense to me.

3243
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:26,250
The whole game.

3244
01:59:26,310 --> 01:59:28,130
How about, how about a chemistry set?

3245
01:59:28,230 --> 01:59:29,210
Do they still make those?

3246
01:59:29,210 --> 01:59:30,490
No, they don't.

3247
01:59:30,650 --> 01:59:32,090
I used to, when I was a kid,

3248
01:59:32,170 --> 01:59:34,350
I had a real chemistry set that could

3249
01:59:34,350 --> 01:59:35,610
blow things up.

3250
01:59:35,710 --> 01:59:37,330
And I had sodium pentothal.

3251
01:59:38,290 --> 01:59:39,190
Oh, you did now?

3252
01:59:39,290 --> 01:59:39,510
Yeah.

3253
01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:40,210
That's pretty cool.

3254
01:59:40,290 --> 01:59:40,450
Yeah.

3255
01:59:40,570 --> 01:59:41,810
And I, and I was, and someone said,

3256
01:59:41,850 --> 01:59:42,730
Hey, that's truth serum.

3257
01:59:42,810 --> 01:59:44,130
So I take, it tasted awful.

3258
01:59:44,250 --> 01:59:46,410
Let me tell you that it didn't work

3259
01:59:46,410 --> 01:59:46,810
very well.

3260
01:59:47,490 --> 01:59:48,430
You have to inject it.

3261
01:59:48,670 --> 01:59:50,450
And then you had the microscope set or

3262
01:59:50,450 --> 01:59:50,950
the, yeah.

3263
01:59:51,090 --> 01:59:52,890
I definitely had a microscope set.

3264
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:54,570
I had a chem, I had a real

3265
01:59:54,570 --> 01:59:56,370
chemistry set when they were real.

3266
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:56,870
Yeah.

3267
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:59,610
And they were dangerous and poisonous and toxic.

3268
01:59:59,890 --> 02:00:00,730
I had one of those.

3269
02:00:01,410 --> 02:00:02,870
You had sulfur in there.

3270
02:00:03,110 --> 02:00:03,490
You had.

3271
02:00:03,710 --> 02:00:04,990
Oh, beyond that.

3272
02:00:05,070 --> 02:00:06,230
You had all kinds of stuff.

3273
02:00:06,470 --> 02:00:07,310
It was awesome.

3274
02:00:07,670 --> 02:00:09,170
Good times, good days.

3275
02:00:09,210 --> 02:00:11,270
They won't sell those anymore to kids because

3276
02:00:11,270 --> 02:00:13,070
they might, you know, kill themselves.

3277
02:00:13,310 --> 02:00:14,230
I don't know why.

3278
02:00:15,470 --> 02:00:17,490
And that was your Boomer update.

3279
02:00:17,930 --> 02:00:19,970
Everybody, your Boomer update is complete.

3280
02:00:20,030 --> 02:00:21,050
And with that, I want to thank you

3281
02:00:21,050 --> 02:00:21,630
for your courage.

3282
02:00:21,730 --> 02:00:22,930
Say in the morning to you, the man

3283
02:00:22,930 --> 02:00:25,430
who put the C in the emotive conjugation.

3284
02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:27,030
Say hello to my friend on the other

3285
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:27,190
end.

3286
02:00:27,250 --> 02:00:29,310
The one, the only Mr. John C.

3287
02:00:29,490 --> 02:00:29,850
DeMora.

3288
02:00:32,690 --> 02:00:34,270
Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Ian

3289
02:00:34,270 --> 02:00:34,630
Curry.

3290
02:00:35,150 --> 02:00:35,870
You're right.

3291
02:00:36,170 --> 02:00:37,370
In the morning to all ships and sea

3292
02:00:37,370 --> 02:00:38,790
boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs

3293
02:00:38,790 --> 02:00:40,270
in the water and all the names and

3294
02:00:40,270 --> 02:00:40,990
nights out there.

3295
02:00:41,110 --> 02:00:42,250
In the morning to the trolls in the

3296
02:00:42,250 --> 02:00:42,790
troll room.

3297
02:00:42,930 --> 02:00:43,750
I'm counting you now.

3298
02:00:43,890 --> 02:00:44,710
Hold on a second.

3299
02:00:45,010 --> 02:00:45,570
All right.

3300
02:00:46,510 --> 02:00:47,750
It's not all that great.

3301
02:00:47,890 --> 02:00:48,210
Let me see.

3302
02:00:48,970 --> 02:00:50,130
1927 was our peak.

3303
02:00:51,890 --> 02:00:54,550
1927, which is, I don't even think, I

3304
02:00:54,550 --> 02:00:56,470
think that's below average at this point.

3305
02:00:56,890 --> 02:00:57,630
Average is 1800.

3306
02:00:57,870 --> 02:01:00,350
No, I'm looking at the averages right now.

3307
02:01:00,450 --> 02:01:03,130
The average of Thursday is 1993.

3308
02:01:04,270 --> 02:01:06,070
That was, oh, no, that's the last show.

3309
02:01:06,350 --> 02:01:08,410
Last 10 shows, 2084.

3310
02:01:08,990 --> 02:01:11,250
The last 100 shows, 1904.

3311
02:01:11,690 --> 02:01:12,190
You're off.

3312
02:01:13,330 --> 02:01:17,830
But in general, Thursdays are up 4.7

3313
02:01:17,830 --> 02:01:20,090
% over the last 100.

3314
02:01:20,470 --> 02:01:21,130
Who cares?

3315
02:01:21,710 --> 02:01:22,570
Nobody cares.

3316
02:01:22,570 --> 02:01:24,290
I mean, it's like saying, how many downloads

3317
02:01:24,290 --> 02:01:24,830
do you have?

3318
02:01:24,870 --> 02:01:25,410
Who cares?

3319
02:01:26,630 --> 02:01:27,430
Nobody cares.

3320
02:01:28,350 --> 02:01:29,810
Nobody cares how many downloads.

3321
02:01:29,950 --> 02:01:31,470
We just care if we can keep the

3322
02:01:31,470 --> 02:01:31,990
show going.

3323
02:01:32,590 --> 02:01:33,570
What else would I do?

3324
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:34,970
Well, I know what I'd be doing.

3325
02:01:35,250 --> 02:01:37,130
I'd be watching Minecraft videos.

3326
02:01:37,130 --> 02:01:39,650
You'd be on the phone, doom scrolling.

3327
02:01:40,010 --> 02:01:41,850
Doom scrolling is very bad.

3328
02:01:42,510 --> 02:01:45,110
What do you do when you're really not

3329
02:01:45,110 --> 02:01:45,450
working?

3330
02:01:45,630 --> 02:01:46,190
What do you do?

3331
02:01:46,790 --> 02:01:52,070
I'm writing or I'm sorting email or trying

3332
02:01:52,070 --> 02:01:56,650
to clean up my office or sorting towels,

3333
02:01:57,310 --> 02:01:59,190
folding laundry.

3334
02:01:59,490 --> 02:02:00,590
Sorting towels?

3335
02:02:01,370 --> 02:02:04,070
Yeah, sorting towels, folding laundry.

3336
02:02:04,310 --> 02:02:06,510
Or sometimes I maybe get in the car

3337
02:02:06,510 --> 02:02:07,230
and go someplace.

3338
02:02:07,770 --> 02:02:08,010
Yeah.

3339
02:02:08,170 --> 02:02:08,850
Where do you go?

3340
02:02:09,710 --> 02:02:10,090
Costco.

3341
02:02:10,510 --> 02:02:10,730
Yeah.

3342
02:02:10,870 --> 02:02:11,150
Okay.

3343
02:02:11,430 --> 02:02:13,070
So it's not some places, Costco.

3344
02:02:13,770 --> 02:02:14,290
Yeah.

3345
02:02:14,570 --> 02:02:15,430
Are you doing stuff?

3346
02:02:15,490 --> 02:02:16,010
Well, that's good.

3347
02:02:16,450 --> 02:02:16,730
That's good.

3348
02:02:16,750 --> 02:02:17,290
Not always.

3349
02:02:17,550 --> 02:02:20,130
I mean, sometimes I'm just watching television aimlessly.

3350
02:02:20,130 --> 02:02:23,410
Watching, trying to find something worth watching, which

3351
02:02:23,410 --> 02:02:24,570
is not easy to do.

3352
02:02:25,310 --> 02:02:27,030
So you watch your series during the day?

3353
02:02:27,110 --> 02:02:27,990
Not in the evening, right?

3354
02:02:28,030 --> 02:02:29,130
You don't watch TV in the evening.

3355
02:02:29,170 --> 02:02:29,790
You watch sports.

3356
02:02:29,890 --> 02:02:30,230
Sports.

3357
02:02:30,350 --> 02:02:31,030
I bet sports.

3358
02:02:31,850 --> 02:02:33,490
No, I don't watch that much sports.

3359
02:02:33,610 --> 02:02:37,970
I watch, no, I'm not, I follow sports,

3360
02:02:38,050 --> 02:02:39,350
but I don't sit there and watch it.

3361
02:02:39,350 --> 02:02:40,610
Like a basketball game.

3362
02:02:40,710 --> 02:02:43,510
That's what, at home, sitting there watching a

3363
02:02:43,510 --> 02:02:44,010
whole basketball.

3364
02:02:44,170 --> 02:02:44,730
Forget it.

3365
02:02:45,170 --> 02:02:46,330
It's the games are always the same.

3366
02:02:46,410 --> 02:02:47,970
Wait till the last two minutes and you

3367
02:02:47,970 --> 02:02:48,850
get to see the game.

3368
02:02:48,850 --> 02:02:51,290
So when you're sorting towels, do you have

3369
02:02:51,290 --> 02:02:54,150
to like match the, uh, the, the washcloth

3370
02:02:54,150 --> 02:02:56,610
with the towel or you're trying to make

3371
02:02:56,610 --> 02:02:57,490
a matching set?

3372
02:02:57,670 --> 02:02:58,610
No, I don't do it.

3373
02:02:58,690 --> 02:02:59,090
That's good.

3374
02:02:59,150 --> 02:02:59,830
And carried away.

3375
02:03:00,070 --> 02:03:00,890
What do you do then?

3376
02:03:01,550 --> 02:03:03,150
I just fold them and put them in

3377
02:03:03,150 --> 02:03:04,450
a, in a, in the drawer.

3378
02:03:04,670 --> 02:03:05,530
Oh, you said sorting.

3379
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:06,390
You said sorting.

3380
02:03:06,630 --> 02:03:07,430
Well, that's kind of sorting.

3381
02:03:07,570 --> 02:03:09,670
You got to take the, you know, cause

3382
02:03:09,670 --> 02:03:11,330
there was towels that go into one drawer

3383
02:03:11,330 --> 02:03:13,090
and there's a towel, there's dish towels and

3384
02:03:13,090 --> 02:03:15,830
there's kitchen towels and there's bath towels or

3385
02:03:15,830 --> 02:03:16,130
three.

3386
02:03:16,270 --> 02:03:17,210
There's three kinds of things.

3387
02:03:17,310 --> 02:03:18,650
You got to select them.

3388
02:03:18,650 --> 02:03:19,630
Got to select them.

3389
02:03:19,890 --> 02:03:20,050
Wow.

3390
02:03:21,050 --> 02:03:23,530
You should consider some single use towels.

3391
02:03:25,610 --> 02:03:26,610
Called paper towels.

3392
02:03:26,650 --> 02:03:27,310
Yeah, exactly.

3393
02:03:27,490 --> 02:03:28,310
I got those two.

3394
02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:29,690
Have a, do you have a dispenser?

3395
02:03:30,490 --> 02:03:31,750
Paper towel dispenser.

3396
02:03:31,850 --> 02:03:33,310
Not, not, not one of those round ones,

3397
02:03:33,410 --> 02:03:34,910
but when I got a roll, not one

3398
02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:36,450
of those, like in the bathroom, we pull

3399
02:03:36,450 --> 02:03:38,770
out a brown sheet.

3400
02:03:39,490 --> 02:03:41,550
No, I don't know what that is.

3401
02:03:41,770 --> 02:03:41,950
Yeah.

3402
02:03:42,170 --> 02:03:45,670
You've been to a restroom and you wash

3403
02:03:45,670 --> 02:03:47,610
your hands and then you, there's a dispenser

3404
02:03:47,610 --> 02:03:49,590
and you pull out a brush.

3405
02:03:49,790 --> 02:03:50,990
Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

3406
02:03:51,250 --> 02:03:54,130
Yeah, but then you have to spend your

3407
02:03:54,130 --> 02:03:55,350
days refilling them.

3408
02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:58,130
You don't need that aggravation.

3409
02:04:00,290 --> 02:04:02,310
We, we want to thank the trolls for

3410
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:02,910
being here.

3411
02:04:03,670 --> 02:04:06,390
All almost 2000 of you listening in and

3412
02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:08,150
that it always does bring me joy.

3413
02:04:08,230 --> 02:04:08,990
It brings me joy.

3414
02:04:09,230 --> 02:04:10,670
It brings me joy that people are listening

3415
02:04:10,670 --> 02:04:12,390
to our, our boomer banter.

3416
02:04:12,470 --> 02:04:13,750
Boomer banter, everybody.

3417
02:04:15,770 --> 02:04:18,970
They listen at trollroom.io. They listen at

3418
02:04:18,970 --> 02:04:21,670
noagenda.stream, or they listen on the modern

3419
02:04:21,670 --> 02:04:23,750
podcast apps, which you can find at podcastapps

3420
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:24,090
.com.

3421
02:04:24,150 --> 02:04:26,990
Many advantages of a modern podcast app.

3422
02:04:27,190 --> 02:04:28,350
You should go check it out for yourself,

3423
02:04:28,450 --> 02:04:29,810
including an alert.

3424
02:04:29,970 --> 02:04:31,830
When the bat signal goes, you know right

3425
02:04:31,830 --> 02:04:32,830
away that we're going live.

3426
02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:34,230
If you can listen live, you listen live.

3427
02:04:34,290 --> 02:04:35,530
If not, you wait for the podcast to

3428
02:04:35,530 --> 02:04:35,910
be posted.

3429
02:04:36,370 --> 02:04:38,710
You'll be alerted within 90 seconds of us

3430
02:04:38,710 --> 02:04:40,290
sending it out.

3431
02:04:40,830 --> 02:04:42,150
There's a lot of advantages.

3432
02:04:44,950 --> 02:04:47,690
We are a value for value proposition.

3433
02:04:48,450 --> 02:04:51,350
Not like Roku, where you've got an auto,

3434
02:04:51,530 --> 02:04:56,250
autoplay ad that you can't, you can't shut

3435
02:04:56,250 --> 02:04:56,750
it up.

3436
02:04:58,130 --> 02:05:00,590
Unless you quickly select something else, but then

3437
02:05:00,590 --> 02:05:02,690
you go to Netflix and they autoplay all,

3438
02:05:02,770 --> 02:05:04,070
I don't like that either.

3439
02:05:04,350 --> 02:05:07,890
I just want to scroll through the little

3440
02:05:07,890 --> 02:05:08,430
squares.

3441
02:05:08,730 --> 02:05:11,230
I don't need to have a preview automatically

3442
02:05:11,230 --> 02:05:11,850
play.

3443
02:05:11,850 --> 02:05:12,410
You know what?

3444
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:14,390
Does your smart TV do that?

3445
02:05:14,630 --> 02:05:15,450
That annoys you.

3446
02:05:15,570 --> 02:05:16,550
That does annoy me.

3447
02:05:16,810 --> 02:05:16,910
Yeah.

3448
02:05:17,310 --> 02:05:17,610
Why?

3449
02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:21,470
Because I just want to look at the

3450
02:05:21,470 --> 02:05:21,970
description.

3451
02:05:22,510 --> 02:05:24,210
It gives you a little sample.

3452
02:05:24,510 --> 02:05:25,710
This is free sample.

3453
02:05:26,650 --> 02:05:27,670
It's all free.

3454
02:05:28,530 --> 02:05:29,710
It's a sample though.

3455
02:05:29,850 --> 02:05:30,810
I don't want the sample.

3456
02:05:30,990 --> 02:05:32,590
I want to click to get the sample.

3457
02:05:32,590 --> 02:05:34,090
Well, maybe they should have a toggle.

3458
02:05:34,250 --> 02:05:35,270
You can turn that off.

3459
02:05:35,370 --> 02:05:36,330
Well, that would be an idea.

3460
02:05:36,950 --> 02:05:37,390
I'm sure that.

3461
02:05:37,390 --> 02:05:38,010
I liked it.

3462
02:05:38,030 --> 02:05:39,050
I liked a little sample.

3463
02:05:39,170 --> 02:05:40,590
I'm sure that they're counting that as a

3464
02:05:40,590 --> 02:05:40,810
view.

3465
02:05:43,210 --> 02:05:44,650
Hey man, we got it.

3466
02:05:44,670 --> 02:05:45,950
They know it's all done in minutes.

3467
02:05:46,070 --> 02:05:48,270
If you read the trades, it's all billions

3468
02:05:48,270 --> 02:05:49,570
of minutes on there.

3469
02:05:49,670 --> 02:05:50,250
There's that.

3470
02:05:51,310 --> 02:05:53,090
So that, yeah, they can, I can, you

3471
02:05:53,090 --> 02:05:54,090
know, I bet you they do.

3472
02:05:54,150 --> 02:05:56,490
Cause since it's done in, in, in micros,

3473
02:05:56,570 --> 02:05:58,370
it's done it by second by second.

3474
02:05:58,370 --> 02:05:59,970
That might actually count as a view.

3475
02:06:00,150 --> 02:06:01,010
I'm sure they do that.

3476
02:06:01,590 --> 02:06:01,990
Yeah.

3477
02:06:02,590 --> 02:06:02,810
Yeah.

3478
02:06:03,890 --> 02:06:05,630
The whole thing is sleazy.

3479
02:06:05,910 --> 02:06:06,290
Yes.

3480
02:06:06,750 --> 02:06:09,250
Well, no sleazier than charging.

3481
02:06:09,250 --> 02:06:11,790
And the content is junk.

3482
02:06:11,970 --> 02:06:15,970
There's so much garbage is poorly written, poorly

3483
02:06:15,970 --> 02:06:16,790
acted.

3484
02:06:18,090 --> 02:06:21,190
We wound up watching the Marky Mark movie.

3485
02:06:22,650 --> 02:06:24,570
What was the Marky Mark movie?

3486
02:06:24,670 --> 02:06:25,390
What's that called?

3487
02:06:26,830 --> 02:06:31,050
The Walt, the Mark Wahlberg movie is the

3488
02:06:31,050 --> 02:06:31,910
family plan.

3489
02:06:32,010 --> 02:06:33,110
It's from 2023.

3490
02:06:34,070 --> 02:06:34,390
Yeah.

3491
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:35,490
He's a car dealer.

3492
02:06:35,610 --> 02:06:36,630
He's got a little family.

3493
02:06:36,930 --> 02:06:38,390
And then it turns out, huh?

3494
02:06:38,830 --> 02:06:40,550
Oh, as you mean is starring him?

3495
02:06:40,750 --> 02:06:40,910
Yes.

3496
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:41,670
Yes.

3497
02:06:41,810 --> 02:06:42,350
It's starting here.

3498
02:06:42,390 --> 02:06:44,450
I think he also has a biography or

3499
02:06:44,450 --> 02:06:45,370
something where you described.

3500
02:06:45,390 --> 02:06:46,990
No, he also, he'll, I just call him

3501
02:06:46,990 --> 02:06:47,510
Marky Mark.

3502
02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:48,670
Cause I know him as Marky Mark.

3503
02:06:50,190 --> 02:06:51,390
He produced it too.

3504
02:06:51,950 --> 02:06:53,610
And it turns out he was an assassin.

3505
02:06:54,690 --> 02:06:56,210
And Oh, well, that's creative.

3506
02:06:57,810 --> 02:06:59,430
It was a feel good movie.

3507
02:06:59,730 --> 02:07:00,510
I can't help it.

3508
02:07:00,530 --> 02:07:02,230
Feel good movie about a car dealer.

3509
02:07:02,230 --> 02:07:03,310
Who's an assassin.

3510
02:07:03,550 --> 02:07:03,850
Yes.

3511
02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:05,350
It was a feel good movie.

3512
02:07:05,770 --> 02:07:06,170
Wow.

3513
02:07:07,530 --> 02:07:11,010
Um, uh, anyway, so we don't, uh, we

3514
02:07:11,010 --> 02:07:13,510
just give you top quality entertainment and media

3515
02:07:13,510 --> 02:07:16,270
deconstruction every single Thursday and Sunday.

3516
02:07:16,330 --> 02:07:17,130
That's all we do.

3517
02:07:17,250 --> 02:07:18,730
We don't charge you for it.

3518
02:07:18,850 --> 02:07:20,690
We don't make you jump through hoops.

3519
02:07:20,930 --> 02:07:22,330
There's no free preview.

3520
02:07:23,210 --> 02:07:24,750
The whole thing is a free preview.

3521
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:25,870
Listen to the whole thing.

3522
02:07:26,010 --> 02:07:27,490
You know, if you don't like it, then

3523
02:07:27,490 --> 02:07:29,090
you should have bailed out long ago.

3524
02:07:29,630 --> 02:07:32,050
And the best part of course, is the

3525
02:07:32,050 --> 02:07:32,830
donation segment.

3526
02:07:32,830 --> 02:07:34,410
That's where all the magic happens.

3527
02:07:34,410 --> 02:07:35,710
And a lot of that is the content

3528
02:07:35,710 --> 02:07:37,370
that comes from our producers themselves.

3529
02:07:38,130 --> 02:07:40,190
Um, but first we need to thank, um,

3530
02:07:40,750 --> 02:07:42,770
our artist who brought us the artwork for

3531
02:07:42,770 --> 02:07:44,330
episode 1747.

3532
02:07:44,930 --> 02:07:48,150
We titled that hi-fi Intel, which is

3533
02:07:48,150 --> 02:07:49,430
exactly what we provide.

3534
02:07:49,570 --> 02:07:51,650
High fidelity intelligence just for you.

3535
02:07:51,710 --> 02:07:52,110
So we do.

3536
02:07:52,610 --> 02:07:54,370
And, uh, now this was from a brand

3537
02:07:54,370 --> 02:07:57,070
new, uh, artist gun monkey.

3538
02:07:57,410 --> 02:08:01,150
I think gun monkey, uh, had been on

3539
02:08:01,150 --> 02:08:02,970
the art generator for two hours.

3540
02:08:03,570 --> 02:08:05,710
And this doesn't happen very often.

3541
02:08:06,290 --> 02:08:07,790
It's happened about three times.

3542
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:08,650
Yeah.

3543
02:08:08,710 --> 02:08:10,650
But all recent, I think since the, uh,

3544
02:08:10,650 --> 02:08:11,890
the advent of AI.

3545
02:08:12,690 --> 02:08:15,510
And this was, uh, an interesting piece.

3546
02:08:15,510 --> 02:08:17,830
It was a flying Volkswagen bus.

3547
02:08:19,290 --> 02:08:20,930
The repurposed factory.

3548
02:08:21,130 --> 02:08:22,290
Yes, exactly.

3549
02:08:22,330 --> 02:08:24,430
And it had all kinds of U.S.

3550
02:08:24,530 --> 02:08:28,170
Navy bombs and it had, uh, Korean Dvorak

3551
02:08:28,170 --> 02:08:28,730
bombs.

3552
02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:28,990
Yeah.

3553
02:08:28,990 --> 02:08:30,730
I don't get the U.S. Navy aspect

3554
02:08:30,730 --> 02:08:31,950
to it, but okay.

3555
02:08:31,950 --> 02:08:34,890
I did get a note from a gun

3556
02:08:34,890 --> 02:08:35,230
monkey.

3557
02:08:36,270 --> 02:08:36,970
Oh, yes.

3558
02:08:37,130 --> 02:08:40,170
And it turns out gun monkey is a

3559
02:08:40,170 --> 02:08:40,390
girl.

3560
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:43,460
I didn't know that.

3561
02:08:43,460 --> 02:08:44,320
Gun monkey's a girl.

3562
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:45,020
Yes.

3563
02:08:47,100 --> 02:08:48,820
What did she have to say?

3564
02:08:48,860 --> 02:08:49,080
Wait a minute.

3565
02:08:49,340 --> 02:08:50,360
Hold on a second.

3566
02:08:50,540 --> 02:08:52,420
Is this, uh, let me make sure I'm

3567
02:08:52,420 --> 02:08:53,180
saying this right.

3568
02:08:54,060 --> 02:08:56,060
Did we choose gun monkey before?

3569
02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:56,660
No.

3570
02:08:57,300 --> 02:08:57,620
No.

3571
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:00,040
Well, what was the cow art?

3572
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:01,240
Who did the cow art?

3573
02:09:02,700 --> 02:09:04,080
That was also gun monkey.

3574
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:04,260
Yeah.

3575
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:06,100
We chose gun monkey two shows in a

3576
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:06,360
row.

3577
02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:09,420
Oh, and, and she's new to the thing.

3578
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:09,960
Yes.

3579
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:11,680
Oh, that's odd.

3580
02:09:11,860 --> 02:09:12,600
She did the cow.

3581
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:13,020
Yeah.

3582
02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:13,860
Monkey did the cow.

3583
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:14,060
Here.

3584
02:09:14,140 --> 02:09:15,460
Gun monkey says, I want to thank you

3585
02:09:15,460 --> 02:09:17,060
for selecting the cow art for 1746.

3586
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:19,320
I've been listening to Noah Jenner since 2020.

3587
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:21,520
After I was hitting him.

3588
02:09:21,620 --> 02:09:23,780
Well, gun monkey didn't do this, this, this

3589
02:09:23,780 --> 02:09:24,000
thing.

3590
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:24,800
This was done by.

3591
02:09:25,020 --> 02:09:25,660
By someone else.

3592
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:26,260
You're right.

3593
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:26,580
Yeah.

3594
02:09:26,580 --> 02:09:28,380
This is T.I. Put it wasn't.

3595
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:29,400
One pipple.

3596
02:09:29,540 --> 02:09:29,820
That's.

3597
02:09:29,820 --> 02:09:31,220
And who is the, was the first.

3598
02:09:31,220 --> 02:09:33,380
That's a mistake on my, on my part.

3599
02:09:33,660 --> 02:09:33,820
Yeah.

3600
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:35,420
What are you giving gun monkey the credit

3601
02:09:35,420 --> 02:09:35,980
for this guy?

3602
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:37,640
Gun monkey deserves no credit.

3603
02:09:38,300 --> 02:09:38,780
No.

3604
02:09:38,980 --> 02:09:40,480
Who, who did this one then?

3605
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:42,200
This is T.I. Pipple.

3606
02:09:42,580 --> 02:09:43,300
T.I. Pipple.

3607
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:44,520
Pipple J.

3608
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:46,060
Oh, sorry.

3609
02:09:46,180 --> 02:09:47,120
T.I. Pipple J.

3610
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,840
Which probably means something in, in hacks or.

3611
02:09:51,020 --> 02:09:51,220
Yeah.

3612
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:52,600
Well, I didn't get a note from.

3613
02:09:52,780 --> 02:09:54,600
And this was the first submission.

3614
02:09:54,740 --> 02:09:57,740
Cause he submitted five pieces the first time

3615
02:09:57,740 --> 02:09:58,040
ever.

3616
02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:00,140
And he got, got a winner.

3617
02:10:00,740 --> 02:10:02,480
Or she could be a, she, I don't

3618
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:02,680
know.

3619
02:10:02,740 --> 02:10:03,000
Could be.

3620
02:10:03,420 --> 02:10:05,180
Well, I'm, well, I'm still going to read

3621
02:10:05,180 --> 02:10:05,380
this.

3622
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:05,620
I don't know.

3623
02:10:05,780 --> 02:10:06,980
I would, you got to try.

3624
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:07,720
Side track.

3625
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:09,360
Would gun monkey flirting with you?

3626
02:10:09,420 --> 02:10:10,180
What's the deal here?

3627
02:10:10,300 --> 02:10:11,600
Well, no, a gun monkey.

3628
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:16,820
Said that, that, that he's a she.

3629
02:10:18,300 --> 02:10:20,920
And, and gun monkey is a professional artist.

3630
02:10:21,020 --> 02:10:23,440
And I wanted to welcome gun monkey to

3631
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:24,820
the, to the show.

3632
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:27,300
Even though gun monkey has been listening since

3633
02:10:27,300 --> 02:10:27,900
2020.

3634
02:10:28,460 --> 02:10:32,080
And gun monkey also owns a gallery gun

3635
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:33,100
monkey art.com.

3636
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:35,960
Makes sense.

3637
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:36,580
Doesn't it?

3638
02:10:37,180 --> 02:10:37,800
I guess.

3639
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:40,820
So I don't know about people.

3640
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:42,140
Jay people.

3641
02:10:42,280 --> 02:10:44,200
Jay know nothing about, but we appreciate people.

3642
02:10:44,380 --> 02:10:46,160
Jay is the one who came in first

3643
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:46,460
time.

3644
02:10:46,660 --> 02:10:48,340
Cause gun monkey has submitted before.

3645
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:49,440
She wasn't a one.

3646
02:10:49,540 --> 02:10:49,900
You're right.

3647
02:10:50,060 --> 02:10:50,460
One off.

3648
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:50,660
Yeah.

3649
02:10:50,780 --> 02:10:51,780
People to people.

3650
02:10:51,940 --> 02:10:56,140
Jay guy or girl came in first shot

3651
02:10:56,140 --> 02:10:58,240
and got, this is, it happens rarely, but

3652
02:10:58,240 --> 02:10:59,340
it has happened before.

3653
02:10:59,680 --> 02:10:59,900
Great job.

3654
02:11:00,060 --> 02:11:02,440
Comes in with five pieces and they, and

3655
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:03,640
he had two of them, I thought were

3656
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:04,240
quite good.

3657
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:04,720
Yes.

3658
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:07,440
And actually they were all okay, but two

3659
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:08,020
of them were really good.

3660
02:11:08,100 --> 02:11:10,920
And he, she won the, for the Volkswagen

3661
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:12,900
flying bus, the flying bug.

3662
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:13,320
Yeah.

3663
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:14,400
People, there's a bus.

3664
02:11:14,620 --> 02:11:14,880
It's a bus.

3665
02:11:14,980 --> 02:11:15,240
It's a bed.

3666
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:15,520
Yeah.

3667
02:11:15,700 --> 02:11:16,940
People, Jay, let us know about you.

3668
02:11:17,020 --> 02:11:20,700
I love getting notes from, from, from the

3669
02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:20,960
artist.

3670
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:22,340
Was there anything else that we looked at

3671
02:11:22,340 --> 02:11:23,360
that we need to discuss?

3672
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:25,840
No, actually.

3673
02:11:27,300 --> 02:11:29,280
We were, this was such a clear winner.

3674
02:11:29,460 --> 02:11:31,020
I think we both determined it to be

3675
02:11:31,020 --> 02:11:31,280
the.

3676
02:11:31,860 --> 02:11:32,140
Yeah.

3677
02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:33,500
I think we picked it pretty quick.

3678
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:35,040
Cause it stood out.

3679
02:11:35,260 --> 02:11:35,560
Yeah.

3680
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:37,500
Yes.

3681
02:11:37,780 --> 02:11:39,100
Oh, there's a lot of fun art for

3682
02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:39,520
today.

3683
02:11:40,500 --> 02:11:40,920
Yeah.

3684
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:41,620
There's a lot of stuff.

3685
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:42,780
There's a lot of stuff.

3686
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:43,020
Yeah.

3687
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:45,820
Oh, by the way, people who thought it

3688
02:11:45,820 --> 02:11:50,160
was a good idea to have puking leprechauns

3689
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:52,480
and puking Irish.

3690
02:11:53,700 --> 02:11:56,280
No, we're not going to choose puke art.

3691
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:57,500
No.

3692
02:11:58,240 --> 02:11:59,740
One of the things you have to remember,

3693
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:00,120
we have.

3694
02:12:01,340 --> 02:12:04,060
Unwritten rules, including grotesquery.

3695
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:05,020
Grotesqueness, yes.

3696
02:12:05,020 --> 02:12:07,760
Anything that's grotesque or kind of sickening or

3697
02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:09,980
nauseating is not going to be picked ever.

3698
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:10,840
Automatic fail.

3699
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:13,780
Because that we don't want that association where

3700
02:12:13,780 --> 02:12:16,480
people associate no agenda with something gruesome.

3701
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:17,480
Don't like it.

3702
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:18,160
Don't want it.

3703
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,020
I'm not going to accept it.

3704
02:12:20,740 --> 02:12:22,040
So anyway, thank you very much people.

3705
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:23,120
Jay, we appreciate you.

3706
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:25,740
And we also always thank the people who

3707
02:12:25,740 --> 02:12:26,280
support us.

3708
02:12:26,280 --> 02:12:29,720
Unlike the download scam, which is like, oh,

3709
02:12:29,820 --> 02:12:31,820
you know, we had a million downloads.

3710
02:12:32,340 --> 02:12:33,740
OK, how much is that?

3711
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:35,620
That's what they say to advertisers.

3712
02:12:36,060 --> 02:12:37,800
You don't even know if people listen to

3713
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:38,040
it.

3714
02:12:40,380 --> 02:12:42,100
That's the scam right there.

3715
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:44,520
You know, downloads.

3716
02:12:44,900 --> 02:12:45,480
You got a whole bunch.

3717
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:46,040
There's not much else you can do.

3718
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:46,820
What else can you do?

3719
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:47,960
Yeah, there's nothing else to be done.

3720
02:12:48,020 --> 02:12:48,540
Can't be done.

3721
02:12:48,660 --> 02:12:49,560
Nothing else to be done.

3722
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:51,740
So that's why podcasting is a problem.

3723
02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:53,060
That's why it's all moving to YouTube.

3724
02:12:53,060 --> 02:12:56,000
Because you can, you know, you get 30

3725
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,060
seconds of view time.

3726
02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:57,460
Boom!

3727
02:12:57,680 --> 02:12:58,400
Someone watched.

3728
02:13:01,940 --> 02:13:02,900
That's not a scam.

3729
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:05,280
No, instead, we just ask you to support

3730
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:06,900
the show with whatever you think the show

3731
02:13:06,900 --> 02:13:07,580
is worth to you.

3732
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:09,720
It's called the value for value principle.

3733
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:11,440
The value for value model.

3734
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:13,600
And we thank everybody.

3735
02:13:13,780 --> 02:13:16,080
That's an important part of the feedback loop.

3736
02:13:16,300 --> 02:13:17,760
Or important part of value for value is

3737
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:19,000
having the feedback loop.

3738
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:21,300
Some people take advantage of us and send

3739
02:13:21,300 --> 02:13:22,500
in very, very long notes.

3740
02:13:22,500 --> 02:13:23,480
That's not the idea.

3741
02:13:23,620 --> 02:13:25,580
But we will comply as much as we

3742
02:13:25,580 --> 02:13:25,900
can.

3743
02:13:26,780 --> 02:13:27,460
And we thank everyone.

3744
02:13:27,660 --> 02:13:28,860
There's one couple coming up.

3745
02:13:28,940 --> 02:13:29,200
I know.

3746
02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:30,740
That are just like, come on.

3747
02:13:30,860 --> 02:13:31,340
I saw them.

3748
02:13:32,500 --> 02:13:34,640
And some are just pure puzzling.

3749
02:13:35,180 --> 02:13:36,780
We thank everybody, $50 and above.

3750
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:39,800
And we make special mention of our executive

3751
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:41,140
and associate executive producers.

3752
02:13:41,540 --> 02:13:44,000
These are people who donate $200 and above.

3753
02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:45,500
And that means that you become an associate

3754
02:13:45,500 --> 02:13:46,360
executive producer.

3755
02:13:46,700 --> 02:13:47,540
That's a real credit.

3756
02:13:47,620 --> 02:13:49,300
You can use it anywhere credits are recognized.

3757
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:50,260
Hollywood style.

3758
02:13:50,260 --> 02:13:51,520
And we'll read your note.

3759
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:52,600
$300 and above.

3760
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:53,540
Same thing.

3761
02:13:53,640 --> 02:13:54,920
Only you're an executive producer.

3762
02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:59,620
And back with a vengeance is Sironimus of

3763
02:13:59,620 --> 02:14:01,040
Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.

3764
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:02,700
Our top executive producer today.

3765
02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:05,620
With 3352.

3766
02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:07,120
Man.

3767
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,380
Bringing home the bacon for us.

3768
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:12,520
I'm sure there was at least one $2

3769
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:13,300
bill in there.

3770
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:14,680
Well, two.

3771
02:14:15,980 --> 02:14:17,320
Good $2 bills.

3772
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:18,560
3354.

3773
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:22,080
I have 3352 on my note here.

3774
02:14:23,540 --> 02:14:26,080
Oh, it says 3354 on the spreadsheet.

3775
02:14:26,300 --> 02:14:26,600
Okay.

3776
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:29,200
This is very important because if we get

3777
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,620
the code wrong, someone's going to die.

3778
02:14:33,300 --> 02:14:35,840
So written on the note is 3352.

3779
02:14:37,420 --> 02:14:39,360
On the spreadsheet, you put 3352.

3780
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:40,560
This J has to.

3781
02:14:41,740 --> 02:14:43,700
J could be responsible for.

3782
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:44,440
Well, here's what.

3783
02:14:44,500 --> 02:14:44,700
Okay.

3784
02:14:44,820 --> 02:14:45,100
I'm going to.

3785
02:14:45,340 --> 02:14:45,660
Here's what.

3786
02:14:45,860 --> 02:14:47,200
Normally, here's what happens.

3787
02:14:48,180 --> 02:14:49,820
We're very concerned about this.

3788
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:50,780
No, no kidding.

3789
02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:55,860
So usually the anonymous donation comes in.

3790
02:14:56,140 --> 02:14:57,780
I count it and keep the.

3791
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:00,640
No, there's the first weak spot.

3792
02:15:00,900 --> 02:15:02,620
No, I count it.

3793
02:15:02,700 --> 02:15:04,320
And then I have somebody else count it.

3794
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:05,520
So two people count it.

3795
02:15:06,060 --> 02:15:07,520
And you get a number.

3796
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,880
And if the number matches, that's the number

3797
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:12,060
we use in this case.

3798
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:15,020
I never counted it this time because I

3799
02:15:15,020 --> 02:15:17,100
was cooking or something.

3800
02:15:17,900 --> 02:15:18,880
Sorting towels.

3801
02:15:19,340 --> 02:15:20,780
I was sorting towels.

3802
02:15:21,400 --> 02:15:24,400
And so we have this problem.

3803
02:15:24,460 --> 02:15:24,880
Well, hold on.

3804
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:26,680
Do you recall there being more than one

3805
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:27,260
$2 bill?

3806
02:15:28,380 --> 02:15:30,440
I'd have to go look in the drawer.

3807
02:15:30,740 --> 02:15:31,900
Next to your phone?

3808
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:34,120
Next to the phone.

3809
02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:36,060
Now everyone knows where the money is kept.

3810
02:15:38,020 --> 02:15:40,960
We're running this show out of John's drawer.

3811
02:15:43,380 --> 02:15:45,520
Laughably, that's closer to the truth.

3812
02:15:47,620 --> 02:15:49,980
There is a drawer that has money in

3813
02:15:49,980 --> 02:15:50,180
it.

3814
02:15:51,300 --> 02:15:52,180
I'm sorry.

3815
02:15:52,820 --> 02:15:53,240
I'm sorry.

3816
02:15:53,300 --> 02:15:54,200
I don't know what to say.

3817
02:15:54,940 --> 02:15:56,460
So the code, the people out there that

3818
02:15:56,460 --> 02:15:58,100
need this code.

3819
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:00,420
It's either they're going to have to try

3820
02:16:00,420 --> 02:16:02,480
both these numbers and see what happens.

3821
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:06,140
From Seronomous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.

3822
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:08,240
Thank you to all producers for their ongoing

3823
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:10,640
effort to make this a primary news and

3824
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:11,980
information source.

3825
02:16:12,940 --> 02:16:15,480
Also, thank you to producers offering insight on

3826
02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:17,480
algorithms and attribution capacity.

3827
02:16:18,140 --> 02:16:21,180
John's Oasis column and John and Adam's willingness

3828
02:16:21,180 --> 02:16:22,820
to read a long note.

3829
02:16:23,140 --> 02:16:26,100
Can you do it again and hold it?

3830
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:27,800
We'll read his long note.

3831
02:16:28,300 --> 02:16:31,520
Well, and then he posted four.

3832
02:16:34,219 --> 02:16:36,820
He posted some music notation.

3833
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:39,240
Yes, I was told about this.

3834
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:41,700
And are you looking at the notes?

3835
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:42,799
Because I'm looking at it.

3836
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:44,719
And so it's four.

3837
02:16:46,459 --> 02:16:47,520
Not bars.

3838
02:16:48,059 --> 02:16:50,040
But can anybody read this musical?

3839
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:52,200
Do you have an instrument there?

3840
02:16:52,219 --> 02:16:53,200
You can play those four notes.

3841
02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:56,180
Well, it's the same note every single time.

3842
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:58,120
But it's one is like.

3843
02:17:03,340 --> 02:17:05,620
And then the second line is.

3844
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:10,760
What does it sound like?

3845
02:17:10,820 --> 02:17:11,900
Does it sound like anything to you yet?

3846
02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:12,580
And then.

3847
02:17:12,700 --> 02:17:14,639
No, I have no idea what this is.

3848
02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:17,540
And then he'll tell us and then it'll

3849
02:17:17,540 --> 02:17:19,620
be something that we go, oh, duh.

3850
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:22,740
But then he also has two, three pieces

3851
02:17:22,740 --> 02:17:23,959
highlighted in yellow.

3852
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:26,200
Yes, I don't understand that either.

3853
02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:29,799
This is, he's gone out of his way

3854
02:17:29,799 --> 02:17:30,940
to confuse us.

3855
02:17:30,959 --> 02:17:31,820
It's a problem.

3856
02:17:32,240 --> 02:17:32,840
It's a problem.

3857
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:34,900
It's a real problem.

3858
02:17:34,959 --> 02:17:35,840
You know what I'm going to do here?

3859
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:36,959
I have an idea here.

3860
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:37,420
Hold on a second.

3861
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:38,200
So he's musical.

3862
02:17:38,660 --> 02:17:39,780
Well, I don't know if he's.

3863
02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:40,940
Well, maybe he is.

3864
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:42,760
That's an interesting point.

3865
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:44,000
Let me see if I can post this

3866
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:44,920
into the troll room.

3867
02:17:46,020 --> 02:17:46,320
Yes.

3868
02:17:46,340 --> 02:17:48,200
If anybody out there can play these notes

3869
02:17:48,200 --> 02:17:48,340
or.

3870
02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:48,700
There you go.

3871
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:50,780
This is the trolls have it.

3872
02:17:50,900 --> 02:17:51,459
I've pasted it.

3873
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:54,320
It says 27, 30, 33.

3874
02:17:55,940 --> 02:17:56,639
I don't know.

3875
02:17:56,639 --> 02:17:58,160
I don't know any what this means.

3876
02:17:58,540 --> 02:18:01,139
Anyway, he does close it by saying Ramadan.

3877
02:18:01,139 --> 02:18:03,540
We will find before all the before the

3878
02:18:03,540 --> 02:18:05,080
show ends in four years.

3879
02:18:05,540 --> 02:18:07,080
We will have this figured out.

3880
02:18:07,719 --> 02:18:08,639
Ramadan Mubarak.

3881
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:10,860
May this Ramadan cleanse your soul and bring

3882
02:18:10,860 --> 02:18:12,139
you closer to the almighty.

3883
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:14,379
He closes no jingles, no karma.

3884
02:18:15,559 --> 02:18:18,799
And the trolls are now speculating when their

3885
02:18:18,799 --> 02:18:20,200
typical stupid troll way.

3886
02:18:20,340 --> 02:18:21,580
So we'll never get a straight answer.

3887
02:18:21,900 --> 02:18:23,480
Good was a good idea.

3888
02:18:23,639 --> 02:18:23,799
What?

3889
02:18:23,900 --> 02:18:24,780
How stupid am I?

3890
02:18:24,879 --> 02:18:25,180
All right.

3891
02:18:25,180 --> 02:18:25,879
Thank you very much.

3892
02:18:25,940 --> 02:18:26,360
Seronomous.

3893
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:28,320
Please let us know if we got this

3894
02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:28,620
number.

3895
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:29,059
Correct.

3896
02:18:29,620 --> 02:18:32,200
It's on the note is scribbled 3352.

3897
02:18:32,740 --> 02:18:34,559
So I'm going to think that that is

3898
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:36,480
the correct code, the correct number.

3899
02:18:36,480 --> 02:18:37,700
That's what I'm thinking.

3900
02:18:37,820 --> 02:18:39,900
And I apologize for any death and destruction

3901
02:18:39,900 --> 02:18:41,440
that has been put on later.

3902
02:18:41,780 --> 02:18:41,900
Yes.

3903
02:18:41,940 --> 02:18:43,920
I apologize for any death and destruction.

3904
02:18:46,650 --> 02:18:47,090
Okay.

3905
02:18:48,190 --> 02:18:52,389
I got to get my mouse to work.

3906
02:18:52,850 --> 02:18:53,629
Come on, mouse.

3907
02:18:53,730 --> 02:18:54,250
You can do it.

3908
02:18:54,490 --> 02:18:55,190
There we go.

3909
02:18:55,410 --> 02:18:55,629
Okay.

3910
02:18:55,650 --> 02:18:58,129
Now we've got Dame Becky.

3911
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:59,809
She came in and she has a note.

3912
02:19:01,350 --> 02:19:02,230
And okay.

3913
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:04,049
This is going to be annoying if I

3914
02:19:04,049 --> 02:19:05,190
can't get this thing to work.

3915
02:19:05,490 --> 02:19:07,430
So I can switch over to the note.

3916
02:19:07,430 --> 02:19:08,570
Oh, there it is.

3917
02:19:10,370 --> 02:19:10,510
Okay.

3918
02:19:11,590 --> 02:19:11,930
Okay.

3919
02:19:12,030 --> 02:19:14,809
ITM Jensen closes a belated birthday donation for

3920
02:19:14,809 --> 02:19:15,610
the two of us.

3921
02:19:16,030 --> 02:19:18,750
Sir Mike Baronet of the Great Katy Prairie

3922
02:19:18,750 --> 02:19:22,129
celebrated 74 trips around the sun on March

3923
02:19:22,930 --> 02:19:24,270
8th, 2025.

3924
02:19:24,530 --> 02:19:29,469
Dame Becky Baronetess of the Great Katy Prairie

3925
02:19:29,469 --> 02:19:32,950
celebrated 73 trips around the sun on March

3926
02:19:32,950 --> 02:19:33,389
2nd.

3927
02:19:33,450 --> 02:19:35,870
So they're both marchers.

3928
02:19:37,030 --> 02:19:40,750
The donation takes us each to Baron Baroness.

3929
02:19:41,230 --> 02:19:43,870
And we hereby request the territory of the

3930
02:19:43,870 --> 02:19:45,650
Gulf Coast of Texas.

3931
02:19:46,190 --> 02:19:49,350
No jingles, no karma.

3932
02:19:49,470 --> 02:19:51,750
Keep up the amazing work you both do

3933
02:19:51,750 --> 02:19:54,950
to keep us sane and our amygdala shrunk.

3934
02:19:55,230 --> 02:19:57,590
Regards, Becky Kinney.

3935
02:19:57,870 --> 02:19:58,530
Oh, Becky Kinney.

3936
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:59,330
That's Becky Kinney.

3937
02:19:59,430 --> 02:19:59,570
Yeah.

3938
02:19:59,730 --> 02:20:00,530
In Katy, Texas.

3939
02:20:00,770 --> 02:20:03,650
We've had, yeah, obviously she's a regular.

3940
02:20:04,630 --> 02:20:09,350
Then we got two checks of 333.33

3941
02:20:09,350 --> 02:20:13,910
from Chap Williams in Edmond, Oklahoma, which of

3942
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:18,170
course totals 666.66. But there was no

3943
02:20:18,170 --> 02:20:18,430
note.

3944
02:20:18,570 --> 02:20:19,810
I do not have an email.

3945
02:20:20,630 --> 02:20:22,130
I have nothing of the sort.

3946
02:20:23,070 --> 02:20:24,730
So I will just give him a double

3947
02:20:24,730 --> 02:20:25,170
up karma.

3948
02:20:25,350 --> 02:20:26,350
I say, thank you very much.

3949
02:20:26,470 --> 02:20:29,090
You've got karma.

3950
02:20:31,350 --> 02:20:33,150
We'll expect a note eventually.

3951
02:20:34,110 --> 02:20:36,610
Ryan Schubert in Richmond Hill, Georgia.

3952
02:20:37,010 --> 02:20:40,610
$500 checking in from Savannah.

3953
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:42,290
Unless it's actually in Savannah.

3954
02:20:42,650 --> 02:20:42,930
Yes.

3955
02:20:43,430 --> 02:20:45,290
Please de-douche my wife.

3956
02:20:45,810 --> 02:20:46,570
Sorry.

3957
02:20:48,470 --> 02:20:50,390
You've been de-douche.

3958
02:20:50,410 --> 02:20:51,590
Sorry, fat fingered it.

3959
02:20:52,150 --> 02:20:55,530
And I request baby making karma, no jingle.

3960
02:20:58,010 --> 02:21:00,650
You've got karma.

3961
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,420
I do want to thank the fine folks

3962
02:21:07,420 --> 02:21:09,540
over at noagendachocolates.com.

3963
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:11,220
Another box came in, John.

3964
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:12,520
Have you received another box?

3965
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:13,280
No.

3966
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:14,160
Of turtles?

3967
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:16,660
No, I haven't seen any turtles.

3968
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:19,380
And I got a hoodie.

3969
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:21,600
A Little John's Candies hoodie.

3970
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:23,340
Oh, that's cool.

3971
02:21:23,540 --> 02:21:23,800
Yeah.

3972
02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:24,640
Yeah.

3973
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:26,600
Tina took that right away and said, these

3974
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:28,040
people are trying to kill us.

3975
02:21:28,340 --> 02:21:29,160
Well, maybe.

3976
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:32,840
Ryan Schubert, Rich.

3977
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:33,420
Oh, I'm sorry.

3978
02:21:33,480 --> 02:21:33,840
That's you.

3979
02:21:33,940 --> 02:21:34,220
Go ahead.

3980
02:21:34,300 --> 02:21:35,120
You do Ryan Schubert.

3981
02:21:35,380 --> 02:21:36,400
No, you just did him.

3982
02:21:36,480 --> 02:21:37,480
I'm doing Scott Lamont.

3983
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:38,020
There we go.

3984
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:39,940
In Somerset, Massachusetts.

3985
02:21:40,340 --> 02:21:46,380
$350.93. My final night payment.

3986
02:21:47,560 --> 02:21:50,000
Sir Scott, the white knight of Pottersville Village

3987
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:52,060
in Somerset, Taxachusetts.

3988
02:21:52,660 --> 02:21:53,500
At the round table.

3989
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:58,000
Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon and salt and vinegar almonds.

3990
02:21:58,380 --> 02:21:59,520
And that's his entire note.

3991
02:21:59,620 --> 02:22:00,580
So you got it.

3992
02:22:00,640 --> 02:22:01,060
Thank you.

3993
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:05,820
Baroness Sarah Rupert.

3994
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:09,900
In Oakland, California, three, three, three, three, three.

3995
02:22:11,300 --> 02:22:14,720
She writes happy 50th birthday today to Jonathan

3996
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:18,620
Rupert from Baroness Sarah Rupert.

3997
02:22:19,380 --> 02:22:22,000
And the original no agenda sucker baby violet

3998
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:23,020
violet.

3999
02:22:24,020 --> 02:22:25,160
She's older now.

4000
02:22:26,060 --> 02:22:27,160
We love you so much.

4001
02:22:27,260 --> 02:22:30,320
This donation plus the it's called a trap

4002
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:31,540
baby, by the way.

4003
02:22:31,540 --> 02:22:32,360
Trap baby.

4004
02:22:32,620 --> 02:22:33,740
You can call a sucker baby if you

4005
02:22:33,740 --> 02:22:33,940
want.

4006
02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:35,900
We love you so much.

4007
02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:39,100
This donation plus the one he made in

4008
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:43,140
December and our subscription has earned him a

4009
02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:44,220
seat at the round table.

4010
02:22:44,340 --> 02:22:47,380
Could you knight him today on his 50th

4011
02:22:47,380 --> 02:22:49,520
birthday as Sir Jonathan Rupert.

4012
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:53,020
Please wish Jonathan happy birthday and an ITM

4013
02:22:53,020 --> 02:22:55,340
when you come to the April 5th meetup

4014
02:22:55,340 --> 02:22:57,640
for John's birthday at our new restaurant.

4015
02:22:57,900 --> 02:22:59,100
We have a pizza place.

4016
02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:00,520
They own the two of them.

4017
02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:01,000
How cool.

4018
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:02,260
On Piedmont.

4019
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:06,800
It's a it's also a grand opening weekend

4020
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:08,680
of our second pizzeria Violetta.

4021
02:23:09,100 --> 02:23:11,000
They named a pizza place after the trap

4022
02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:11,300
baby.

4023
02:23:11,820 --> 02:23:12,860
She was now older.

4024
02:23:13,580 --> 02:23:16,860
Located in the new Prescott Market in West

4025
02:23:16,860 --> 02:23:17,200
Oakland.

4026
02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:19,200
Oh, that's another place.

4027
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:22,560
Double check address from the meetup site to

4028
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:24,700
make sure you go to the correct location.

4029
02:23:24,940 --> 02:23:27,640
OK, we'll have the they're going to have

4030
02:23:27,640 --> 02:23:28,760
a chain of these places.

4031
02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:31,220
We have the VIP section reserved for the

4032
02:23:31,220 --> 02:23:32,040
no agenda family.

4033
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:34,720
We'd love to be the new meetup spot

4034
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:35,940
for the Bay Area.

4035
02:23:36,140 --> 02:23:37,040
There we go.

4036
02:23:37,300 --> 02:23:37,820
There you go.

4037
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:41,540
A barren dude named Jeff.

4038
02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:43,100
333 dot 33.

4039
02:23:43,260 --> 02:23:46,220
This donation pushes me past Viscount status.

4040
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:46,760
Nice.

4041
02:23:47,220 --> 02:23:49,260
Huge dose of relationship karma.

4042
02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:51,100
I need all the help I can get.

4043
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:51,780
You got it.

4044
02:23:51,820 --> 02:23:53,580
I'm going to throw in a goat actually.

4045
02:23:53,700 --> 02:23:55,100
Make sure you get the right stuff.

4046
02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:57,820
You've got karma.

4047
02:23:57,820 --> 02:23:59,740
Goats are always good for relationships.

4048
02:24:00,440 --> 02:24:03,800
North Idaho Sanity Brigade donation and conquered.

4049
02:24:04,580 --> 02:24:07,240
Yes, dearest boomers.

4050
02:24:09,660 --> 02:24:12,440
It should be noted that the meetups just

4051
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:15,700
might be the single easiest way to generate

4052
02:24:15,700 --> 02:24:18,740
executive and associate executive producer donations.

4053
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:22,640
Attendees can simply plunk down bits of cash

4054
02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:24,360
into the center of the table.

4055
02:24:24,360 --> 02:24:29,760
You have Brunetti-esque big boy forever credit

4056
02:24:29,760 --> 02:24:33,040
before you can say phony ISO.

4057
02:24:34,700 --> 02:24:36,160
Yes, a lot of people are complaining.

4058
02:24:36,780 --> 02:24:39,500
They're saying your phony ISOs are phony because

4059
02:24:39,500 --> 02:24:42,300
an ISO is short for isolated clip.

4060
02:24:42,500 --> 02:24:45,080
That does not mean AI generated clip.

4061
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:47,720
So it's unfair what you're doing.

4062
02:24:51,180 --> 02:24:54,340
It should also be noted that Adam, since

4063
02:24:54,340 --> 02:24:56,860
something was amiss, after three and a half

4064
02:24:56,860 --> 02:25:00,240
months, the very beginning of the ISO gate,

4065
02:25:00,760 --> 02:25:04,880
but John gas lit him by falsely claiming

4066
02:25:04,880 --> 02:25:07,000
they were coming from audiobooks.

4067
02:25:07,080 --> 02:25:07,720
It wasn't early.

4068
02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:09,140
It was about a month into it.

4069
02:25:09,380 --> 02:25:10,720
It wasn't a false claim.

4070
02:25:11,180 --> 02:25:12,160
You claimed it.

4071
02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:15,760
No, there's the use of false claim.

4072
02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:16,600
Yeah, exactly.

4073
02:25:17,600 --> 02:25:20,520
But it wasn't right away when I was

4074
02:25:20,520 --> 02:25:23,300
after about a month before he decided to

4075
02:25:23,300 --> 02:25:24,860
call me out on these clips.

4076
02:25:24,980 --> 02:25:27,000
And that's when I gas lit him, if

4077
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:28,240
you want to put it that way.

4078
02:25:28,400 --> 02:25:29,960
Yes, yes.

4079
02:25:30,020 --> 02:25:34,140
I would use the term bullshitted him with

4080
02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:35,940
the idea that it came from an audiobook

4081
02:25:35,940 --> 02:25:38,280
because it made nothing but sense because they

4082
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:40,820
were very crisp and clear.

4083
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:42,980
And it sounded like an audiobook person.

4084
02:25:44,420 --> 02:25:49,540
Anyway, he continues, love is lit, Sir Scott,

4085
02:25:49,880 --> 02:25:53,480
the Jew and North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

4086
02:25:53,660 --> 02:25:53,920
Yes.

4087
02:25:53,980 --> 02:25:57,620
And I got a post note asking the

4088
02:25:57,620 --> 02:26:01,020
North Idaho Sanity Brigade, Brigade requested a doo

4089
02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:01,220
doo.

4090
02:26:01,580 --> 02:26:03,100
I'm all tongue tied today.

4091
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:03,700
You got it.

4092
02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:04,160
You got it.

4093
02:26:04,180 --> 02:26:04,880
You're hanging in there.

4094
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:06,980
A de-douching for Jack Kramer.

4095
02:26:08,620 --> 02:26:10,380
You've been de-douched.

4096
02:26:11,820 --> 02:26:15,160
And according to Darren O'Neill, the sheet

4097
02:26:15,160 --> 02:26:17,000
music in the image appears to be from

4098
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:18,460
Beethoven's Symphony No.

4099
02:26:18,600 --> 02:26:24,580
9 in D minor, Opus 125, specifically the

4100
02:26:24,580 --> 02:26:27,700
fourth movement, which includes the famous Ode to

4101
02:26:27,700 --> 02:26:28,320
Joy meme.

4102
02:26:28,780 --> 02:26:33,340
The highlighted sections correspond to recognizable melodic patterns

4103
02:26:33,340 --> 02:26:34,360
from this symphony.

4104
02:26:36,160 --> 02:26:37,740
So he sent it to AI.

4105
02:26:38,200 --> 02:26:39,220
Oh, yeah, of course he sent it to

4106
02:26:39,220 --> 02:26:39,520
AI.

4107
02:26:40,220 --> 02:26:40,900
Good idea.

4108
02:26:41,940 --> 02:26:42,160
Ode to Joy.

4109
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:43,080
That was a good idea.

4110
02:26:43,180 --> 02:26:45,800
Ode to Joy, which is the European Union's

4111
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:46,600
national anthem.

4112
02:26:46,780 --> 02:26:49,300
Oh, that's where we're dealing with.

4113
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:51,960
We're starting to figure it out.

4114
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:53,000
We're on to you.

4115
02:26:53,280 --> 02:26:53,880
We're on to you.

4116
02:26:53,960 --> 02:26:54,980
Thanks to AI.

4117
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:55,520
Yes.

4118
02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:57,160
Anon.

4119
02:26:57,160 --> 02:26:58,300
Actually, thanks to Darren.

4120
02:26:58,840 --> 02:27:03,640
Anon in anonymous, place unknown, 222.22, a

4121
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:04,100
row of ducks.

4122
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:05,640
Hopefully short and sweet this time.

4123
02:27:05,940 --> 02:27:08,060
This row of ducks was the steak dinner

4124
02:27:08,060 --> 02:27:11,120
monies that was previously allocated to the Osaka

4125
02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:15,240
Castle Cherry Blossom Viewing and Amygdala Shrinking Meetup,

4126
02:27:15,620 --> 02:27:17,260
hosted by Sir Bill of Osaka.

4127
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:18,300
That's in Japan.

4128
02:27:18,880 --> 02:27:19,780
And Sir 3D.

4129
02:27:20,020 --> 02:27:21,820
And that was on Saturday, April 5th at

4130
02:27:21,820 --> 02:27:22,780
1333.

4131
02:27:23,120 --> 02:27:25,020
See no agenda meetups for more details.

4132
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:25,840
Bring your own beer.

4133
02:27:26,260 --> 02:27:27,840
Hopefully, I will be sporting a night ring

4134
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:29,140
next time I go to that meetup.

4135
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:31,460
Was happy with the results of the TPP

4136
02:27:31,460 --> 02:27:31,900
karma.

4137
02:27:32,020 --> 02:27:35,220
So I definitely recommend producers donate $200 and

4138
02:27:35,220 --> 02:27:36,140
pick that again.

4139
02:27:36,820 --> 02:27:37,320
Pick that.

4140
02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:40,140
Again, thank you to the extensive list of

4141
02:27:40,140 --> 02:27:42,220
producers that have provided value to the show

4142
02:27:42,220 --> 02:27:43,400
through the three Ts.

4143
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:44,700
Time, talent, and treasure.

4144
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:46,360
Adam, don't feel bad.

4145
02:27:46,740 --> 02:27:50,200
The zoomers and newer call the millennials and

4146
02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:51,560
older boomers.

4147
02:27:51,940 --> 02:27:53,560
I don't feel bad at all.

4148
02:27:53,960 --> 02:27:55,880
I learned on the last episode.

4149
02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:58,000
It's because we have incredible knowledge.

4150
02:27:58,600 --> 02:27:59,080
Jingles.

4151
02:27:59,620 --> 02:28:00,660
JCD Hot Pockets.

4152
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:01,180
Beautiful.

4153
02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:01,720
Yum.

4154
02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:03,280
And a TPP jobs karma.

4155
02:28:03,700 --> 02:28:04,760
Hot Pockets.

4156
02:28:05,620 --> 02:28:06,260
Beautiful.

4157
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:08,560
Yum.

4158
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:15,440
You've got karma.

4159
02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:17,860
Pauly Bravo.

4160
02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:21,860
Pauly Bravo in Fort Collins, Colorado.

4161
02:28:22,180 --> 02:28:22,640
Nice town.

4162
02:28:23,020 --> 02:28:23,980
22087.

4163
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:25,560
25th anniversary.

4164
02:28:26,400 --> 02:28:28,420
Thanks, Violet.

4165
02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:31,100
Thanks, Violet Wild on Spotify.

4166
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:33,480
Okay.

4167
02:28:33,480 --> 02:28:33,840
Okay.

4168
02:28:34,380 --> 02:28:39,240
Anyone ever go to a Joko Cruz on

4169
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:40,240
a Joko Cruz?

4170
02:28:40,820 --> 02:28:41,780
What's Joko Cruz?

4171
02:28:41,800 --> 02:28:43,480
I don't know what a Joko Cruz is.

4172
02:28:44,120 --> 02:28:45,720
Happy birthday, Chauncey.

4173
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:49,140
Sir Pauly Bravo in Foko.

4174
02:28:49,420 --> 02:28:49,760
Okay.

4175
02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:51,620
Joko Foko.

4176
02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:52,540
I don't know.

4177
02:28:53,220 --> 02:28:56,120
Hey, look who comes in with $212.

4178
02:28:56,520 --> 02:28:59,280
It's our guy Blockman Bing.

4179
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:00,260
Oh, yeah?

4180
02:29:00,260 --> 02:29:02,900
That is the guy whose note we read

4181
02:29:02,900 --> 02:29:04,700
who was complaining about us.

4182
02:29:05,300 --> 02:29:05,720
That's right.

4183
02:29:05,940 --> 02:29:07,520
Calling us out for all kinds of things.

4184
02:29:07,660 --> 02:29:09,540
Turns out he lives in New Jersey, Tintin

4185
02:29:09,540 --> 02:29:09,860
Falls.

4186
02:29:09,980 --> 02:29:10,580
And he says...

4187
02:29:10,580 --> 02:29:11,960
That makes nothing but sense.

4188
02:29:12,100 --> 02:29:14,520
Long-time boner, first-time donor.

4189
02:29:15,460 --> 02:29:17,700
Not, well, not the first-time complainer.

4190
02:29:18,440 --> 02:29:20,600
I've been listening since Adam was on Twit

4191
02:29:20,600 --> 02:29:21,540
in 2010.

4192
02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:25,640
But I only started listening religiously since COVID.

4193
02:29:26,260 --> 02:29:29,240
I used to love the chemtrails and trains

4194
02:29:29,240 --> 02:29:30,160
good jingles.

4195
02:29:30,260 --> 02:29:33,200
I could get those, a de-douching, and

4196
02:29:33,200 --> 02:29:34,140
goat karma, please.

4197
02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:36,320
I thought there was more to this note.

4198
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:37,780
Did this note get redacted?

4199
02:29:38,920 --> 02:29:40,020
Not that I know of.

4200
02:29:40,120 --> 02:29:42,820
And I'm wondering whether this is the same

4201
02:29:42,820 --> 02:29:45,180
guy or he's just someone using the name.

4202
02:29:45,300 --> 02:29:48,240
Hold on a second, because I remember this

4203
02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:49,320
note was longer.

4204
02:29:49,880 --> 02:29:51,060
Is Jay editing?

4205
02:29:51,960 --> 02:29:53,240
No, he doesn't do that.

4206
02:29:53,360 --> 02:29:53,640
Here.

4207
02:29:54,260 --> 02:29:55,700
It's a very long note.

4208
02:29:57,900 --> 02:29:58,700
Yes, side.

4209
02:29:58,820 --> 02:29:59,620
Oh, side notes.

4210
02:29:59,620 --> 02:30:00,440
This is interesting.

4211
02:30:00,640 --> 02:30:02,740
I'm glad I caught this, because the side

4212
02:30:02,740 --> 02:30:03,620
notes are interesting.

4213
02:30:04,140 --> 02:30:05,780
I am an Indian Hindu doctor.

4214
02:30:07,380 --> 02:30:09,660
I voted Republican in every election since I

4215
02:30:09,660 --> 02:30:11,360
turned 18 20 years ago.

4216
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:13,160
I took a little offense at being labeled

4217
02:30:13,160 --> 02:30:14,500
a drive-by.

4218
02:30:16,180 --> 02:30:17,700
That was, that was...

4219
02:30:17,700 --> 02:30:18,320
Yeah, it's the same guy.

4220
02:30:19,260 --> 02:30:22,120
That was my accusation, by the way.

4221
02:30:22,320 --> 02:30:24,260
I'll take full credit for calling him a

4222
02:30:24,260 --> 02:30:24,920
drive-by.

4223
02:30:24,980 --> 02:30:25,680
You are correct.

4224
02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:28,300
I have emails with Adam dating back to

4225
02:30:28,300 --> 02:30:30,020
2010 when I started listening.

4226
02:30:31,540 --> 02:30:33,380
And then he says, useful idiot is a

4227
02:30:33,380 --> 02:30:33,880
term that...

4228
02:30:33,880 --> 02:30:36,840
Because he called us useful idiots for Israel.

4229
02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:39,320
Useful idiot is a term that harkens back

4230
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:41,320
to the Cold War to reference non-commies

4231
02:30:41,320 --> 02:30:43,500
doing the propaganda legwork for commies.

4232
02:30:43,860 --> 02:30:45,620
Yeah, there used to be a podcast called

4233
02:30:45,620 --> 02:30:47,660
The Useful Idiots that Matt Taibbi used to

4234
02:30:47,660 --> 02:30:47,860
do.

4235
02:30:48,320 --> 02:30:52,100
This is relevant today in non-Israelis defending

4236
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:56,260
Israel by not calling out their crimes against

4237
02:30:56,260 --> 02:30:56,840
humanity.

4238
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:00,200
You see, I think that is a problem.

4239
02:31:02,200 --> 02:31:05,320
You cannot say we are defending anybody because

4240
02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:08,140
we're not calling someone out for their crimes

4241
02:31:08,140 --> 02:31:09,300
against humanity.

4242
02:31:10,700 --> 02:31:12,680
Because then you never stop.

4243
02:31:12,760 --> 02:31:16,480
So we're defending thousands of people.

4244
02:31:16,480 --> 02:31:16,760
Yeah, it's a negative.

4245
02:31:17,060 --> 02:31:19,500
Yeah, we're defending thousands of people being killed

4246
02:31:19,500 --> 02:31:20,080
in Syria.

4247
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:26,080
We're defending the killing of people in Somalia.

4248
02:31:26,700 --> 02:31:28,040
Oakland, for that matter.

4249
02:31:28,360 --> 02:31:29,840
Oakland, yes.

4250
02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:31,640
We are pro-death in Oakland.

4251
02:31:31,960 --> 02:31:33,300
No, you can't do that.

4252
02:31:33,720 --> 02:31:34,600
You can't do that.

4253
02:31:35,500 --> 02:31:37,560
So I take some exception with that.

4254
02:31:39,340 --> 02:31:41,980
Anyway, I'm glad I got the rest of

4255
02:31:41,980 --> 02:31:42,360
your note.

4256
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:45,820
And so we wanted a Chemtrails, which I

4257
02:31:45,820 --> 02:31:47,000
hadn't seen, obviously.

4258
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:52,300
Chemtrails, Trains Good, and what else did he

4259
02:31:52,300 --> 02:31:52,660
want?

4260
02:31:53,100 --> 02:31:54,320
And de-douching?

4261
02:31:55,940 --> 02:31:57,720
You've been de-douched.

4262
02:31:57,780 --> 02:31:59,060
Here we go, Karma, coming up.

4263
02:32:00,980 --> 02:32:05,060
All aboard Trains Good, planes bad.

4264
02:32:06,260 --> 02:32:07,560
Thanks for your note, brother.

4265
02:32:07,780 --> 02:32:10,380
You've got Karma.

4266
02:32:10,660 --> 02:32:12,880
We take no offense at your opinions.

4267
02:32:13,020 --> 02:32:14,300
No, we don't take any offense.

4268
02:32:14,300 --> 02:32:16,700
He's been listening for 15 years and he

4269
02:32:16,700 --> 02:32:17,400
finally donated.

4270
02:32:18,020 --> 02:32:19,140
And he comes around.

4271
02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:21,040
And it took us calling out his note.

4272
02:32:21,780 --> 02:32:23,340
Yeah, if it wasn't for that, we would

4273
02:32:23,340 --> 02:32:23,800
probably still not have heard from him.

4274
02:32:23,800 --> 02:32:24,420
We never would have heard.

4275
02:32:24,540 --> 02:32:26,520
He would still have been driving by, just

4276
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:27,600
shooting spitballs.

4277
02:32:28,300 --> 02:32:32,300
La Jolla Salt Corporation in La Jolla, California.

4278
02:32:32,500 --> 02:32:34,160
Oh, didn't you get some of their product?

4279
02:32:34,280 --> 02:32:34,820
I got some of their product.

4280
02:32:34,820 --> 02:32:36,000
No, I got none of their product.

4281
02:32:36,060 --> 02:32:37,460
Their product is outstanding.

4282
02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:39,300
What is it, salt?

4283
02:32:39,480 --> 02:32:40,360
Read the note.

4284
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:45,680
Oh, 211-865 is what contributed, he, she,

4285
02:32:45,820 --> 02:32:47,860
whatever group, this corporation.

4286
02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:57,340
It says, decimate dry skin with a luxurious

4287
02:32:57,340 --> 02:33:01,480
sea salt scrub from lajollasalt.com.

4288
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:07,040
Enjoy the dazzling moisture and exfoliating power of

4289
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:09,700
our small batch sea salt scrubs.

4290
02:33:10,340 --> 02:33:13,460
Handmade by the sea in the village of

4291
02:33:13,460 --> 02:33:14,020
La Jolla.

4292
02:33:15,300 --> 02:33:18,920
For complete decimation, kick in for a bundle

4293
02:33:18,920 --> 02:33:19,680
of 10.

4294
02:33:21,780 --> 02:33:25,620
LaJollaSalt.com, putting the sea back in sea

4295
02:33:25,620 --> 02:33:26,560
salt scrub.

4296
02:33:27,780 --> 02:33:28,860
LaJollaSeaSalt.com.

4297
02:33:28,940 --> 02:33:29,780
Thank you for your courage.

4298
02:33:30,080 --> 02:33:33,140
They forgot the Code Bongino offer.

4299
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:34,760
Yeah, I noticed there was no discount there.

4300
02:33:34,860 --> 02:33:35,360
I'm surprised.

4301
02:33:36,620 --> 02:33:37,720
It's a great product.

4302
02:33:37,900 --> 02:33:38,760
I have tried it.

4303
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:42,580
Scrub, I exfoliated like a madman.

4304
02:33:43,700 --> 02:33:45,620
Dame Stacey is in Billings, Montana.

4305
02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:47,120
210 and 60 cents.

4306
02:33:47,180 --> 02:33:48,340
In the morning to you, gentlemen, this is

4307
02:33:48,340 --> 02:33:51,400
a March 21st birthday donation to me.

4308
02:33:51,880 --> 02:33:53,660
I want to thank Saddle Tramp for hitting

4309
02:33:53,660 --> 02:33:54,820
me in the mouth a few years ago.

4310
02:33:54,880 --> 02:33:55,720
Ah, Saddle Tramp.

4311
02:33:55,760 --> 02:33:56,800
How is Saddle Tramp?

4312
02:33:56,860 --> 02:33:57,920
Haven't heard from her in a while.

4313
02:33:58,700 --> 02:34:00,280
Although I have not been able to fully

4314
02:34:00,280 --> 02:34:01,920
hit anyone in the mouth, I have smacked

4315
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:03,640
my husband around with different segments.

4316
02:34:04,140 --> 02:34:06,540
I'm requesting a non-kamala biscuit for my

4317
02:34:06,540 --> 02:34:07,100
birthday jingle.

4318
02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:08,260
Please stay safe.

4319
02:34:08,260 --> 02:34:11,520
Dame Stacey of Yellowstone Country and the Black

4320
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:11,880
Hills.

4321
02:34:12,040 --> 02:34:13,880
They always give me a biscuit on my

4322
02:34:13,880 --> 02:34:14,340
birthday.

4323
02:34:17,320 --> 02:34:20,660
Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.

4324
02:34:21,020 --> 02:34:21,500
There we go.

4325
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:25,720
$203.20. This, by the way, I'm not

4326
02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:25,900
sure.

4327
02:34:27,020 --> 02:34:29,480
This one we put in here because it

4328
02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:30,820
came in and it got one of the

4329
02:34:30,820 --> 02:34:31,680
pending things.

4330
02:34:31,780 --> 02:34:33,640
This happens with people every once in a

4331
02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:33,740
while.

4332
02:34:33,780 --> 02:34:34,140
Yeah, I know.

4333
02:34:34,580 --> 02:34:35,620
Yeah, we don't know.

4334
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:37,300
It looks dubious.

4335
02:34:37,380 --> 02:34:38,440
It could be a terrorist.

4336
02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:40,940
Yeah, Coffee, Coffee Guy.

4337
02:34:41,400 --> 02:34:44,380
So the guy comes in every show with

4338
02:34:44,380 --> 02:34:46,160
this guy, almost the same amount of money.

4339
02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:47,580
And then they have to flag it.

4340
02:34:47,920 --> 02:34:48,660
Oh, problem.

4341
02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:50,560
Gets flagged out of the blue because it's

4342
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:51,640
a randomizer.

4343
02:34:51,980 --> 02:34:54,160
There's no real work being done here.

4344
02:34:55,280 --> 02:34:57,460
He writes, you know, he writes.

4345
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:03,340
Well, news agencies railed against the administration for

4346
02:35:03,340 --> 02:35:08,660
deporting an innocent pro-Palestine advocate for exercising

4347
02:35:08,660 --> 02:35:09,680
his free speech.

4348
02:35:10,040 --> 02:35:12,500
You guys called out Mahmoud Khalil.

4349
02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:13,540
I have a clip.

4350
02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:14,600
I have a bonus clip.

4351
02:35:14,600 --> 02:35:15,820
Ah, bonus clip, everybody.

4352
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:16,880
Right in the middle of this.

4353
02:35:16,960 --> 02:35:17,960
Let's play the bonus clip.

4354
02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:18,380
All right.

4355
02:35:18,480 --> 02:35:19,460
What is it called?

4356
02:35:19,620 --> 02:35:20,120
Khalil.

4357
02:35:21,100 --> 02:35:22,780
Could have figured that one out.

4358
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:25,220
A federal judge in New York today rejected

4359
02:35:25,220 --> 02:35:28,240
the Trump administration's efforts to keep Columbia protester

4360
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:31,120
Mahmoud Khalil in a Louisiana detention facility.

4361
02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:34,400
The protester's attorney said the government wanted to

4362
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:36,500
avoid New York and New Jersey.

4363
02:35:37,060 --> 02:35:39,620
Our legal correspondent Arlene Richards finds out whether

4364
02:35:39,620 --> 02:35:40,920
location matters.

4365
02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:43,720
A New York federal judge on Wednesday ordered

4366
02:35:43,720 --> 02:35:47,060
that Columbia protester Mahmoud Khalil be transferred to

4367
02:35:47,060 --> 02:35:47,600
New Jersey.

4368
02:35:48,020 --> 02:35:50,700
In a 33 page order, Judge Jesse Furman

4369
02:35:50,700 --> 02:35:52,800
moved the entire case to a New Jersey

4370
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:53,600
federal court.

4371
02:35:54,120 --> 02:35:56,280
He ruled that since Khalil was still being

4372
02:35:56,280 --> 02:35:58,520
held in a New Jersey facility when his

4373
02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:01,500
attorney requested his release, the case must be

4374
02:36:01,500 --> 02:36:02,720
heard in New Jersey.

4375
02:36:03,260 --> 02:36:05,460
One of Khalil's attorneys said in a statement

4376
02:36:05,460 --> 02:36:07,840
that the government moved him to Louisiana to

4377
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:10,020
avoid having the case heard in New York

4378
02:36:10,020 --> 02:36:11,020
or New Jersey.

4379
02:36:11,540 --> 02:36:14,360
Critics say Louisiana's appeals court is the most

4380
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:17,460
conservative in the country, whereas New Jersey's Third

4381
02:36:17,460 --> 02:36:20,420
Circuit panel is evenly split with six conservative

4382
02:36:20,420 --> 02:36:22,360
judges and six liberal judges.

4383
02:36:22,760 --> 02:36:25,240
While the Justice Department hasn't commented on the

4384
02:36:25,240 --> 02:36:28,760
claim, international law attorney Gerard Felitti said in

4385
02:36:28,760 --> 02:36:31,920
a text message that the court explicitly said

4386
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:34,200
there was no basis to conclude that the

4387
02:36:34,200 --> 02:36:37,260
government transferred Khalil from New York to Louisiana

4388
02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:39,120
for an improper purpose.

4389
02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:42,500
He adds that deportation decisions are made by

4390
02:36:42,500 --> 02:36:43,620
immigration courts.

4391
02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:45,860
Appeals are typically made to the Board of

4392
02:36:45,860 --> 02:36:49,000
Immigration Appeals and then in certain circumstances to

4393
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:50,440
the appropriate federal court.

4394
02:36:50,760 --> 02:36:53,680
Felitti confirmed that Louisiana federal courts do lean

4395
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:57,080
conservative, whereas New Jersey federal courts have historically

4396
02:36:57,080 --> 02:37:00,240
been less inclined to uphold deportation orders.

4397
02:37:00,880 --> 02:37:02,560
But he said we are far from the

4398
02:37:02,560 --> 02:37:03,920
deportation stage.

4399
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:06,220
Right now, the New Jersey court would have

4400
02:37:06,220 --> 02:37:09,060
to decide whether Khalil's rights were violated in

4401
02:37:09,060 --> 02:37:09,920
the first place.

4402
02:37:10,520 --> 02:37:12,540
He said what we will hear are arguments

4403
02:37:12,540 --> 02:37:15,080
about whether his First and Fifth Amendment rights

4404
02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:16,700
were violated by the government.

4405
02:37:17,300 --> 02:37:19,300
The attorney said if the court rules in

4406
02:37:19,300 --> 02:37:21,860
Khalil's favor, the government will have to be

4407
02:37:21,860 --> 02:37:24,480
successful on appeal in order to proceed with

4408
02:37:24,480 --> 02:37:25,840
a deportation hearing.

4409
02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:31,680
I talked to a constitutional lawyer, Rob, and

4410
02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:34,980
Rob.Lawyer, and I said, what's going on

4411
02:37:34,980 --> 02:37:35,520
with all this?

4412
02:37:35,580 --> 02:37:36,680
Who is in charge?

4413
02:37:37,240 --> 02:37:39,540
He said, well, this is how it was

4414
02:37:39,540 --> 02:37:39,840
written.

4415
02:37:40,160 --> 02:37:46,560
The executive's Article 2 and the judicial Article

4416
02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:48,560
3, they were meant to make it all

4417
02:37:48,560 --> 02:37:49,880
at odds with each other.

4418
02:37:49,960 --> 02:37:51,260
It's called checks and balances.

4419
02:37:51,260 --> 02:37:53,920
So this is how our system was meant

4420
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:54,380
to work.

4421
02:37:54,700 --> 02:37:56,140
Confusing and annoying.

4422
02:37:57,580 --> 02:37:59,420
Good work, founding fathers.

4423
02:38:00,220 --> 02:38:02,280
And it pays the bills.

4424
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:05,460
Somehow this, doesn't this somehow go back to

4425
02:38:05,460 --> 02:38:07,280
Madison versus Marburg?

4426
02:38:08,340 --> 02:38:10,440
You guys called out, I'm going to continue

4427
02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:10,920
the note.

4428
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:11,300
OK.

4429
02:38:11,560 --> 02:38:13,440
You guys called out Mahmoud for being a

4430
02:38:13,440 --> 02:38:13,760
spook.

4431
02:38:14,120 --> 02:38:16,240
It's that type of deconstruction that makes No

4432
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:18,320
Agenda truly the best podcast in the universe.

4433
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:22,040
Um, thank you for your insight.

4434
02:38:22,180 --> 02:38:24,240
Jingle Spot the Spook, of course.

4435
02:38:24,560 --> 02:38:25,980
George Clooney is a spy.

4436
02:38:26,480 --> 02:38:30,800
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02:38:38,360 --> 02:38:39,240
Stay caffeinated.

4441
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:41,120
Eli the Coffee Guy.

4442
02:38:51,700 --> 02:38:56,320
George Clooney is a spy.

4443
02:38:59,360 --> 02:39:01,460
Was it Marbury versus Madison?

4444
02:39:02,980 --> 02:39:03,620
Marbury, yeah.

4445
02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:04,060
Marbury.

4446
02:39:04,260 --> 02:39:04,700
Marbury.

4447
02:39:04,960 --> 02:39:05,580
You said Marburg?

4448
02:39:05,700 --> 02:39:06,100
I did.

4449
02:39:06,620 --> 02:39:08,960
Yeah, you're thinking of the Ebola type virus.

4450
02:39:08,980 --> 02:39:11,480
I'm thinking of Mark Wahlberg and I'm confused.

4451
02:39:11,660 --> 02:39:12,520
Oh, that could be too.

4452
02:39:13,060 --> 02:39:16,240
Julianne Corrente is in New Berlin, Wisconsin.

4453
02:39:17,020 --> 02:39:17,500
$200.

4454
02:39:18,260 --> 02:39:20,680
And that is an associate executive producership.

4455
02:39:20,760 --> 02:39:22,320
And she comes in right away and says,

4456
02:39:22,420 --> 02:39:23,340
use your boobs.

4457
02:39:25,020 --> 02:39:27,600
Don't let doctors or your own doubts tell

4458
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:29,220
you that you can't breastfeed.

4459
02:39:29,380 --> 02:39:30,060
Is this a thing?

4460
02:39:31,380 --> 02:39:32,200
Uh, mama.

4461
02:39:32,560 --> 02:39:33,720
Yeah, well, here she goes.

4462
02:39:33,940 --> 02:39:35,820
When did breastfeeding go out of vogue?

4463
02:39:35,980 --> 02:39:38,920
Oh, I'm sure there's all kinds of issues.

4464
02:39:40,100 --> 02:39:41,140
Even men still breastfeed.

4465
02:39:41,140 --> 02:39:42,880
So breastfeeding can make more money selling that

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bony baloney stuff?

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02:39:44,420 --> 02:39:44,920
I guess.

4468
02:39:44,920 --> 02:39:46,060
I'm sure.

4469
02:39:46,280 --> 02:39:47,960
I'm sure there's a campaign against it.

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02:39:48,080 --> 02:39:51,800
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4481
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Baby-making karma, please, for all of those

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02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:29,600
in need.

4483
02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:34,320
Oh, that is an interesting new, um, uh,

4484
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new, uh, uh, service.

4485
02:40:36,260 --> 02:40:36,660
The producer.

4486
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:37,840
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02:40:38,300 --> 02:40:39,500
Here's your baby-making karma.

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Milk producer in this case.

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Karma.

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Jesse Scalerood in Murrieta, California, 200.

4492
02:40:56,300 --> 02:40:58,460
This is a Switcheroo donation for my son,

4493
02:40:58,620 --> 02:41:01,200
Andrew Scalerood.

4494
02:41:01,740 --> 02:41:03,320
I hit him in the mouth about four

4495
02:41:03,320 --> 02:41:05,560
years ago, and we've enjoyed every show since.

4496
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:07,300
This is a special birthday donation.

4497
02:41:07,360 --> 02:41:10,640
He turns 20 on March 24th.

4498
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:13,340
This is his last birthday at home.

4499
02:41:13,340 --> 02:41:15,280
He leaves April 8th.

4500
02:41:15,380 --> 02:41:17,360
For the Air Force to join our cybersecurity

4501
02:41:17,360 --> 02:41:18,180
warriors.

4502
02:41:18,380 --> 02:41:19,800
His mom and I, oh, there's a dude

4503
02:41:19,800 --> 02:41:20,300
named Ben.

4504
02:41:20,900 --> 02:41:23,320
His mom and I will miss him terribly.

4505
02:41:24,420 --> 02:41:24,960
Terribly.

4506
02:41:26,140 --> 02:41:29,240
But Gitmo Nation will get another awesome dude

4507
02:41:29,240 --> 02:41:30,060
named Ben.

4508
02:41:30,460 --> 02:41:33,260
Thanks, Noagenda, for helping me raise my son

4509
02:41:33,260 --> 02:41:35,080
with appropriately-sized amygdala.

4510
02:41:35,540 --> 02:41:38,800
Thanks, Andrew, for being a better son than

4511
02:41:38,800 --> 02:41:40,860
I could have asked for.

4512
02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:41,580
Jingles.

4513
02:41:41,580 --> 02:41:42,860
Man Overboard.

4514
02:41:43,180 --> 02:41:43,960
Time to Stand.

4515
02:41:44,060 --> 02:41:44,800
Human Resource.

4516
02:41:45,820 --> 02:41:46,620
I don't know that one.

4517
02:41:47,140 --> 02:41:48,700
Gitmo Nation National Anthem.

4518
02:41:49,440 --> 02:41:50,340
That's too long.

4519
02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:51,420
And Hit It.

4520
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:53,560
And Cruise Missile Sound Effect.

4521
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:54,860
Okay, here's what's going on.

4522
02:41:55,040 --> 02:41:56,040
When you listen to the...

4523
02:41:56,040 --> 02:41:58,100
These are things only for the live show.

4524
02:41:58,560 --> 02:42:00,440
So Time to Stand is when I say,

4525
02:42:00,600 --> 02:42:03,540
come on trolls, rise and sing.

4526
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:04,460
Oh, rise and sing.

4527
02:42:04,460 --> 02:42:06,700
Then I play the Gitmo Nation National Anthem.

4528
02:42:06,720 --> 02:42:08,160
He listens to the live show then.

4529
02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:09,420
Yeah, and then you say Hit It.

4530
02:42:09,420 --> 02:42:12,220
Those things are reserved for people who listen

4531
02:42:12,220 --> 02:42:14,780
to the pre-stream right after Darren O

4532
02:42:14,780 --> 02:42:16,120
'Neill, the pre-show guy.

4533
02:42:16,780 --> 02:42:18,960
So I do, however, have the Man Overboard

4534
02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:20,060
and the Cruise Missile Effect.

4535
02:42:20,200 --> 02:42:21,460
I think that will be sufficient.

4536
02:42:22,180 --> 02:42:23,120
Man Overboard.

4537
02:42:24,860 --> 02:42:25,400
There you go.

4538
02:42:25,740 --> 02:42:26,100
Beautiful.

4539
02:42:27,180 --> 02:42:28,440
And at the end...

4540
02:42:28,440 --> 02:42:29,680
Oh, no, there's two more.

4541
02:42:30,260 --> 02:42:31,660
Well, let me read Linda so you can

4542
02:42:31,660 --> 02:42:32,280
have the last one.

4543
02:42:32,280 --> 02:42:34,080
No, I don't want the last one.

4544
02:42:34,140 --> 02:42:35,760
I can't read it because it blows up

4545
02:42:35,760 --> 02:42:36,340
my spreadsheet.

4546
02:42:36,480 --> 02:42:38,100
I cannot read this last note.

4547
02:42:38,100 --> 02:42:39,820
Do you think my spreadsheet is any better?

4548
02:42:41,220 --> 02:42:41,980
Well, it's...

4549
02:42:42,360 --> 02:42:43,120
You don't care.

4550
02:42:43,640 --> 02:42:44,280
Go for it.

4551
02:42:44,500 --> 02:42:45,720
You do Linda Lou Patkin.

4552
02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:46,540
Good luck with Colorado.

4553
02:42:46,760 --> 02:42:47,780
Good luck with your read.

4554
02:42:48,760 --> 02:42:51,740
Jobs Karma for a competitive edge with a

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resume and job search needs.

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That's Image Makers Inc with a K and

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work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and

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writer of resumes.

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02:43:06,380 --> 02:43:06,880
$200.

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02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:10,920
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

4563
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:12,560
Let's vote for jobs.

4564
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:16,200
I love your smugness.

4565
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:18,160
I'm not a choker.

4566
02:43:21,080 --> 02:43:22,000
Dale J.

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Thompson, Cannon Beach, Oregon.

4568
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:24,300
$200.

4569
02:43:24,660 --> 02:43:26,220
Our final Associate Executive Producers.

4570
02:43:26,900 --> 02:43:28,220
And he wrote quite a note, but he

4571
02:43:28,220 --> 02:43:31,240
says, When did the No Agenda show morph

4572
02:43:31,240 --> 02:43:32,440
into the Twilight Zone?

4573
02:43:32,720 --> 02:43:34,560
I have a strange account to relate what

4574
02:43:34,560 --> 02:43:36,520
happened to me this last Sunday afternoon as

4575
02:43:36,520 --> 02:43:40,260
our illustrious previous occupant would say, True story.

4576
02:43:40,540 --> 02:43:41,180
No joke.

4577
02:43:42,760 --> 02:43:44,580
Almost every Sunday afternoon, you can usually find

4578
02:43:44,580 --> 02:43:46,040
me taking my dog on a long walk

4579
02:43:46,040 --> 02:43:47,620
around my fair burg while I listen to

4580
02:43:47,620 --> 02:43:48,540
my favorite podcast.

4581
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:50,140
This past Sunday was no exception.

4582
02:43:50,460 --> 02:43:51,780
And most of the time I'm listening to

4583
02:43:51,780 --> 02:43:53,960
the podcast that was recorded that very day.

4584
02:43:54,020 --> 02:43:56,640
This past Sunday was an exception because I

4585
02:43:56,640 --> 02:43:58,900
was catching up with the previous Thursday show.

4586
02:43:59,780 --> 02:44:01,200
So then he goes on.

4587
02:44:01,240 --> 02:44:03,080
He says about 45 minutes into the walk

4588
02:44:03,080 --> 02:44:05,080
at the 1 hour 36 mark in my

4589
02:44:05,080 --> 02:44:07,800
show, when my headphones started acting up.

4590
02:44:08,200 --> 02:44:10,400
So he pulled out his cell phone, tried

4591
02:44:10,400 --> 02:44:11,180
to fix it.

4592
02:44:11,320 --> 02:44:12,820
He's using both hands.

4593
02:44:12,940 --> 02:44:14,020
The dog is impatient.

4594
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:16,780
So he got the headphones plugged back in.

4595
02:44:16,840 --> 02:44:17,980
He had to play on his phone.

4596
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:19,840
But the sound is coming out of the

4597
02:44:19,840 --> 02:44:21,860
cell phone speaker instead of the headphones.

4598
02:44:21,980 --> 02:44:23,360
So he's fiddling with it some more.

4599
02:44:23,660 --> 02:44:25,740
My impatient dog is yanking on the leash.

4600
02:44:25,980 --> 02:44:27,400
And then he yells at the dog.

4601
02:44:27,420 --> 02:44:28,160
Hey, stop!

4602
02:44:28,880 --> 02:44:30,680
And now for the strange part.

4603
02:44:31,280 --> 02:44:33,740
Right after I yelled at my dog, what

4604
02:44:33,740 --> 02:44:35,540
should come out of Adam's mouth in the

4605
02:44:35,540 --> 02:44:36,200
middle of the clip?

4606
02:44:36,340 --> 02:44:38,000
But did you say something?

4607
02:44:38,740 --> 02:44:39,720
No, it was the clip.

4608
02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:41,220
I thought someone said, hey, stop.

4609
02:44:41,900 --> 02:44:44,140
This was at the 1 hour 36 and

4610
02:44:44,140 --> 02:44:45,500
37 second mark.

4611
02:44:47,980 --> 02:44:49,840
Okay, so now I'm a little freaked out.

4612
02:44:49,940 --> 02:44:50,600
What are the chances?

4613
02:44:50,840 --> 02:44:52,340
This is a very strange coincidence.

4614
02:44:53,620 --> 02:44:55,720
Maybe some force in the universe is playing

4615
02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:56,820
with me and I don't like it.

4616
02:44:57,100 --> 02:44:58,940
So perhaps I need to make a contribution

4617
02:44:58,940 --> 02:45:01,120
to placate the no agenda gods to let

4618
02:45:01,120 --> 02:45:02,200
them leave me alone.

4619
02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:03,240
Absolutely.

4620
02:45:03,820 --> 02:45:04,380
He nailed it.

4621
02:45:04,620 --> 02:45:06,160
Except I'm a Christian and I don't make

4622
02:45:06,160 --> 02:45:07,140
offerings to idols.

4623
02:45:08,460 --> 02:45:09,160
You're not an idol.

4624
02:45:09,260 --> 02:45:10,240
We work pretty hard.

4625
02:45:10,620 --> 02:45:12,640
Anyways, I'll be sending you my contribution.

4626
02:45:12,780 --> 02:45:13,280
You deserve it.

4627
02:45:13,340 --> 02:45:14,840
Perhaps you can put a good word in

4628
02:45:14,840 --> 02:45:17,640
with whoever or whatever caused this incident and

4629
02:45:17,640 --> 02:45:19,240
get this nonsense to stop.

4630
02:45:20,040 --> 02:45:21,040
Word put in.

4631
02:45:21,220 --> 02:45:23,140
Consider yourself taken care of.

4632
02:45:23,720 --> 02:45:26,420
And that concludes our executive and associate executive

4633
02:45:26,420 --> 02:45:28,240
producers for episode 1748.

4634
02:45:28,420 --> 02:45:30,000
We appreciate every single one of you.

4635
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:31,700
Thank you for supporting us.

4636
02:45:31,700 --> 02:45:34,200
We will thank the $50 and above donors

4637
02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:35,200
in our second segment.

4638
02:45:35,300 --> 02:45:37,500
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4639
02:45:37,500 --> 02:45:39,400
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4640
02:45:39,400 --> 02:45:39,940
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4641
02:45:40,120 --> 02:45:41,820
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4642
02:45:41,820 --> 02:45:43,440
up previously is still working.

4643
02:45:43,840 --> 02:45:45,580
A lot of those get canceled and there's

4644
02:45:45,580 --> 02:45:46,840
no notification of it.

4645
02:45:47,700 --> 02:45:50,100
noagendadonations.com, any amount, any frequency.

4646
02:45:50,300 --> 02:45:52,200
And thanks again to these executive and associate

4647
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:53,120
executive producers.

4648
02:45:53,260 --> 02:45:54,560
Our formula is this.

4649
02:45:55,380 --> 02:45:57,640
We go out, we hit people in the

4650
02:45:57,640 --> 02:45:57,860
mouth.

4651
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:16,260
I have an ask Adam kind of thing.

4652
02:46:16,780 --> 02:46:18,040
Kind of thing or is it?

4653
02:46:18,340 --> 02:46:20,480
It's like I want to because this is

4654
02:46:20,480 --> 02:46:22,560
a clip I took from NPR and it

4655
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:22,960
sounded.

4656
02:46:24,040 --> 02:46:27,520
I heard what I heard was later corrected.

4657
02:46:27,520 --> 02:46:28,820
But what I heard, I want to see

4658
02:46:28,820 --> 02:46:29,500
if you hear.

4659
02:46:30,280 --> 02:46:32,940
Okay, do I play the jingle first or

4660
02:46:32,940 --> 02:46:33,680
the ask Adam?

4661
02:46:34,900 --> 02:46:36,760
No, but I would play the jingle first.

4662
02:46:44,780 --> 02:46:48,500
Okay, I'm ready.

4663
02:46:49,400 --> 02:46:53,580
So they name a call sign for a

4664
02:46:53,580 --> 02:46:55,560
radio station.

4665
02:46:55,860 --> 02:46:58,240
What I heard was not.

4666
02:46:58,800 --> 02:46:59,400
Don't tell me.

4667
02:46:59,460 --> 02:47:01,340
Don't tell me what you heard because that

4668
02:47:01,340 --> 02:47:01,500
may.

4669
02:47:01,680 --> 02:47:02,080
No, of course not.

4670
02:47:02,180 --> 02:47:03,140
I want you to tell me what you

4671
02:47:03,140 --> 02:47:03,400
hear.

4672
02:47:03,580 --> 02:47:03,700
Okay.

4673
02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:10,020
From KUNC and the NPR network.

4674
02:47:10,180 --> 02:47:11,300
This is In The NoCo.

4675
02:47:11,820 --> 02:47:13,400
I heard KUNC.

4676
02:47:14,360 --> 02:47:14,800
Okay.

4677
02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:17,040
I know what you heard.

4678
02:47:18,140 --> 02:47:19,440
You heard KUNT.

4679
02:47:20,340 --> 02:47:20,520
Yeah.

4680
02:47:22,720 --> 02:47:25,160
She was more clear later in the clip.

4681
02:47:25,160 --> 02:47:25,940
Uh-huh.

4682
02:47:26,560 --> 02:47:27,780
And then when she said it, because I

4683
02:47:27,780 --> 02:47:28,840
heard it, I said, what?

4684
02:47:29,340 --> 02:47:30,200
What kind of a state?

4685
02:47:30,360 --> 02:47:31,760
How did they allow this?

4686
02:47:32,420 --> 02:47:36,120
And then they, she said KUNC more clearly

4687
02:47:36,120 --> 02:47:36,860
later.

4688
02:47:36,860 --> 02:47:38,460
And I said, oh, that's interesting.

4689
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:39,920
And I went back and played this again.

4690
02:47:40,020 --> 02:47:42,960
I still heard it misheard it.

4691
02:47:43,100 --> 02:47:44,520
You were set up at that point.

4692
02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:45,240
You were set up.

4693
02:47:45,540 --> 02:47:46,140
It could be.

4694
02:47:46,280 --> 02:47:47,060
Set yourself up.

4695
02:47:47,320 --> 02:47:48,260
Well, I'm glad you got it.

4696
02:47:48,440 --> 02:47:50,660
We were talking about AI during the donation

4697
02:47:50,660 --> 02:47:51,040
segment.

4698
02:47:51,140 --> 02:47:52,860
Welcome back everybody who doesn't listen to the

4699
02:47:52,860 --> 02:47:53,580
donation segment.

4700
02:47:53,660 --> 02:47:54,720
You missed some good clips.

4701
02:47:55,620 --> 02:47:56,860
Jokes on you.

4702
02:47:57,820 --> 02:48:02,420
And that included a decodation of Seronimus of

4703
02:48:02,420 --> 02:48:04,480
Dogpatch's musical notation.

4704
02:48:05,160 --> 02:48:08,640
Which we believe now is a code to

4705
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:08,840
joy.

4706
02:48:10,100 --> 02:48:11,420
We're not sure yet.

4707
02:48:12,340 --> 02:48:14,600
But AI is being applied everywhere.

4708
02:48:14,880 --> 02:48:16,820
What could possibly go wrong?

4709
02:48:17,180 --> 02:48:20,020
As we hear from the UK Times podcast.

4710
02:48:20,500 --> 02:48:21,480
Laura, you've got the story in the paper

4711
02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:24,280
today about David Lammy, the Foreign Secretary, is

4712
02:48:24,280 --> 02:48:27,140
bringing AI and novel technologies into the Foreign

4713
02:48:27,140 --> 02:48:31,900
Office to help diplomats practice negotiation scenarios.

4714
02:48:31,980 --> 02:48:32,520
That's fascinating.

4715
02:48:32,700 --> 02:48:33,520
I do and he is.

4716
02:48:33,700 --> 02:48:34,820
It is fun, isn't it?

4717
02:48:35,200 --> 02:48:36,960
I mean, everybody in government is tasked with

4718
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:38,640
thinking about ways that they can use AI

4719
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:40,700
and talk about the opportunities of AI.

4720
02:48:41,220 --> 02:48:42,880
But David Lammy, never one to be left

4721
02:48:42,880 --> 02:48:45,220
out, is trying very hard in a speech

4722
02:48:45,220 --> 02:48:46,620
today at the British Chambers of Commerce to

4723
02:48:46,620 --> 02:48:47,960
talk about how the Foreign Office can deliver

4724
02:48:47,960 --> 02:48:48,480
growth.

4725
02:48:48,660 --> 02:48:50,860
So there'll be succumbents for Foreign Office staff.

4726
02:48:50,980 --> 02:48:52,520
There'll be various new units.

4727
02:48:53,100 --> 02:48:54,500
And insight groups.

4728
02:48:54,900 --> 02:48:56,040
But the thing that caught me most, my

4729
02:48:56,040 --> 02:48:58,060
eye the most, talking to people in government

4730
02:48:58,060 --> 02:48:59,820
about this in recent days was the upcoming

4731
02:48:59,820 --> 02:49:01,240
announcement on artificial intelligence.

4732
02:49:01,940 --> 02:49:04,120
Which is actually that they're developing, they've got

4733
02:49:04,120 --> 02:49:06,180
two new AI tools inside the Foreign Office.

4734
02:49:06,600 --> 02:49:09,680
And they are developing ways to help diplomats

4735
02:49:09,680 --> 02:49:11,840
to actually do negotiations.

4736
02:49:12,600 --> 02:49:14,460
They're trying to create virtual realities.

4737
02:49:14,720 --> 02:49:16,320
So you could just drop an ambassador with

4738
02:49:16,320 --> 02:49:18,220
a VR headset into a meeting with an

4739
02:49:18,220 --> 02:49:19,100
overseas prime minister.

4740
02:49:19,180 --> 02:49:21,560
Talking to a Donald Trump bot.

4741
02:49:21,600 --> 02:49:21,960
Exactly.

4742
02:49:21,960 --> 02:49:25,200
They're modelling how countries and other diplomats respond

4743
02:49:25,200 --> 02:49:26,400
to things like natural disasters.

4744
02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:28,900
So hurricanes or to sharp rises in inflation

4745
02:49:28,900 --> 02:49:30,140
and various economic shocks.

4746
02:49:30,320 --> 02:49:32,100
So it's quite interesting the extent to which

4747
02:49:32,100 --> 02:49:34,720
it can replace the kind of conventional and

4748
02:49:34,720 --> 02:49:38,320
very age-old tradition of these diplomats building

4749
02:49:38,320 --> 02:49:39,900
strong personal relations with people.

4750
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:41,820
I'm not massively convinced.

4751
02:49:42,080 --> 02:49:43,580
But I think it will be very interesting

4752
02:49:43,580 --> 02:49:46,460
to see how ambassadors and high commissioners aim

4753
02:49:46,460 --> 02:49:47,500
to use that actually.

4754
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:52,100
Why don't they just have the UK AI

4755
02:49:52,100 --> 02:49:53,540
talk to the US AI?

4756
02:49:53,780 --> 02:49:54,720
Take out the middlemen.

4757
02:49:56,020 --> 02:49:57,560
Yeah, and then go into that mode.

4758
02:49:59,080 --> 02:50:00,540
The high-speed yak-yak mode.

4759
02:50:00,540 --> 02:50:02,700
It's not high speed.

4760
02:50:03,240 --> 02:50:04,840
It's 35 baud.

4761
02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:12,940
Thank you.

4762
02:50:13,340 --> 02:50:15,740
I did have a concerning note here.

4763
02:50:16,620 --> 02:50:16,940
Yes.

4764
02:50:17,140 --> 02:50:19,460
From Tom's hardware blog.

4765
02:50:20,420 --> 02:50:25,080
There are apparently USB-C cables when scanned

4766
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:26,380
with a CT scanner.

4767
02:50:27,780 --> 02:50:34,600
Reveals electronics in the connector that include an

4768
02:50:34,600 --> 02:50:39,420
antenna and another die embedded in the microcontroller.

4769
02:50:42,150 --> 02:50:44,830
Ooh, that sounds like a pretty cool device.

4770
02:50:44,970 --> 02:50:45,770
Ooh is right.

4771
02:50:45,930 --> 02:50:47,470
We don't know what it does.

4772
02:50:48,030 --> 02:50:49,130
Well, you know what it does?

4773
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:50,350
It's a spying device.

4774
02:50:50,350 --> 02:50:52,750
But you can get them?

4775
02:50:53,010 --> 02:50:53,670
Oh, you, oh.

4776
02:50:54,330 --> 02:50:55,030
Where can you get them?

4777
02:50:55,230 --> 02:50:55,550
I don't know.

4778
02:50:55,610 --> 02:50:57,710
At hack five, apparently, according to the troll

4779
02:50:57,710 --> 02:50:57,950
room.

4780
02:50:58,750 --> 02:50:59,150
Hack five.

4781
02:50:59,550 --> 02:51:00,770
Oh, I didn't realize that.

4782
02:51:01,250 --> 02:51:03,790
I want to call out a script.

4783
02:51:04,090 --> 02:51:10,530
I'm disappointed in Miss Leavitt and Peter Doocy

4784
02:51:11,790 --> 02:51:15,650
for playing out a little show in the

4785
02:51:15,650 --> 02:51:16,470
press room.

4786
02:51:16,470 --> 02:51:20,590
This was funny, but yet unnecessary because it

4787
02:51:20,590 --> 02:51:22,150
was obvious you colluded.

4788
02:51:22,770 --> 02:51:25,630
And this discredits Peter Doocy of Fox News.

4789
02:51:25,890 --> 02:51:27,170
There is now a member of the European

4790
02:51:27,170 --> 02:51:30,050
Parliament from France who does not think the

4791
02:51:30,050 --> 02:51:32,410
US represents the values of the Statue of

4792
02:51:32,410 --> 02:51:33,230
Liberty anymore.

4793
02:51:33,470 --> 02:51:35,570
They want the Statue of Liberty back.

4794
02:51:35,910 --> 02:51:39,090
So is President Trump going to send the

4795
02:51:39,090 --> 02:51:40,570
Statue of Liberty back to France?

4796
02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:42,110
Absolutely not.

4797
02:51:42,110 --> 02:51:46,230
And my advice to that unnamed, low-level

4798
02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:49,590
French politician would be to remind them that

4799
02:51:49,590 --> 02:51:51,270
it's only because of the United States of

4800
02:51:51,270 --> 02:51:54,150
America that the French are not speaking German

4801
02:51:54,150 --> 02:51:54,630
right now.

4802
02:51:54,690 --> 02:51:56,790
So they should be very grateful to our

4803
02:51:56,790 --> 02:51:57,370
great country.

4804
02:51:57,830 --> 02:52:00,130
So obvious.

4805
02:52:00,990 --> 02:52:02,350
Yeah, that's pretty bad.

4806
02:52:02,470 --> 02:52:05,150
Yeah, I was turned off by that.

4807
02:52:05,530 --> 02:52:07,150
I want to get this out of the

4808
02:52:07,150 --> 02:52:10,170
way, which is the stranded astronauts controversy.

4809
02:52:10,890 --> 02:52:11,450
Controversy?

4810
02:52:12,450 --> 02:52:13,890
Yeah, they weren't stranded.

4811
02:52:14,670 --> 02:52:16,010
No, they weren't.

4812
02:52:16,530 --> 02:52:18,590
Well, depends on who you talk to.

4813
02:52:18,630 --> 02:52:19,430
I have two clips.

4814
02:52:19,570 --> 02:52:21,250
I have the astronauts return.

4815
02:52:21,570 --> 02:52:23,530
But before I play that, I want to

4816
02:52:23,530 --> 02:52:25,530
play the stranded astronauts clip.

4817
02:52:25,590 --> 02:52:27,050
This was a couple of weeks ago when

4818
02:52:27,050 --> 02:52:28,910
they were at a press conference.

4819
02:52:28,910 --> 02:52:32,270
They were floating around in the pod and

4820
02:52:32,270 --> 02:52:33,830
they were asked this question.

4821
02:52:34,010 --> 02:52:36,490
I like that you titled the clip stranded

4822
02:52:36,490 --> 02:52:37,470
astrobots.

4823
02:52:39,190 --> 02:52:40,090
Here's the question.

4824
02:52:40,090 --> 02:52:43,150
Our next question is from Aaron Gregg with

4825
02:52:43,150 --> 02:52:44,210
the Washington Post.

4826
02:52:44,830 --> 02:52:45,130
Hi, everyone.

4827
02:52:45,230 --> 02:52:46,990
Thanks for doing this.

4828
02:52:47,410 --> 02:52:50,630
So my question relates to Elon Musk.

4829
02:52:50,770 --> 02:52:51,430
My goodness.

4830
02:52:51,530 --> 02:52:54,790
This sounds just like those quarterly calls from

4831
02:52:54,790 --> 02:52:55,350
Wall Street.

4832
02:52:56,270 --> 02:52:58,270
Our next question is from the Wall Street

4833
02:52:58,270 --> 02:52:58,630
Journal.

4834
02:52:59,270 --> 02:52:59,830
Hey, everybody.

4835
02:52:59,970 --> 02:53:00,610
Great queue.

4836
02:53:00,970 --> 02:53:02,410
Yeah, I have a question for the astronauts.

4837
02:53:02,690 --> 02:53:04,970
Our next question is from Aaron Gregg with

4838
02:53:04,970 --> 02:53:05,970
the Washington Post.

4839
02:53:06,510 --> 02:53:06,970
Hi, everyone.

4840
02:53:07,090 --> 02:53:08,810
Thanks for doing this.

4841
02:53:08,810 --> 02:53:12,670
So my question relates to Elon Musk has

4842
02:53:12,670 --> 02:53:14,710
said that he made the offer to bring

4843
02:53:14,710 --> 02:53:16,330
you guys back earlier and that it was

4844
02:53:16,330 --> 02:53:16,730
denied.

4845
02:53:17,130 --> 02:53:19,270
My first question is, is that true?

4846
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:21,270
And if so, what would that have looked

4847
02:53:21,270 --> 02:53:21,570
like?

4848
02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:24,250
Was he offering to make another flight, push

4849
02:53:24,250 --> 02:53:25,250
seats on another flight?

4850
02:53:25,410 --> 02:53:26,410
Could you give us some background there?

4851
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:30,730
I can only say that Mr. Musk, what

4852
02:53:30,730 --> 02:53:32,350
he says is absolutely factual.

4853
02:53:32,810 --> 02:53:35,890
We have no information on that, though, whatsoever.

4854
02:53:35,890 --> 02:53:38,290
What was offered, what was what was not

4855
02:53:38,290 --> 02:53:40,050
offered, who was offered to how that process

4856
02:53:40,050 --> 02:53:40,490
went.

4857
02:53:40,830 --> 02:53:42,770
That's information that we simply don't have.

4858
02:53:42,890 --> 02:53:43,990
So I believe him.

4859
02:53:44,270 --> 02:53:45,750
I don't know all those details.

4860
02:53:45,750 --> 02:53:46,910
And I don't think any of us really

4861
02:53:46,910 --> 02:53:48,650
can give you the answer that maybe that

4862
02:53:48,650 --> 02:53:49,710
you would be hoping for.

4863
02:53:50,430 --> 02:53:51,590
Well, that's interesting.

4864
02:53:52,810 --> 02:53:54,630
So the answer they were hoping for, of

4865
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:56,530
course, is that Biden stranded them.

4866
02:53:56,710 --> 02:53:59,250
Yeah, but they were offered a trip back.

4867
02:53:59,330 --> 02:54:01,570
And then Biden actually did strand them, left

4868
02:54:01,570 --> 02:54:02,070
them up there.

4869
02:54:02,070 --> 02:54:05,550
It's now become a bone of contention amongst

4870
02:54:05,550 --> 02:54:05,970
the media.

4871
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:08,670
Well, the word stranded isn't being used correctly.

4872
02:54:08,770 --> 02:54:10,450
They like being up there and lost.

4873
02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:11,970
They were lost in space.

4874
02:54:12,730 --> 02:54:15,050
And so we have the astronauts return clip,

4875
02:54:15,110 --> 02:54:17,070
which is just kind of summarizes them coming

4876
02:54:17,070 --> 02:54:18,290
back to NASA.

4877
02:54:18,490 --> 02:54:20,650
Astronauts are back on Earth after an extended

4878
02:54:20,650 --> 02:54:22,730
stay on the International Space Station.

4879
02:54:23,210 --> 02:54:25,390
Their mission was set to last only eight

4880
02:54:25,390 --> 02:54:25,810
days.

4881
02:54:25,950 --> 02:54:28,330
But Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams ended up

4882
02:54:28,330 --> 02:54:30,370
spending nine months in orbit.

4883
02:54:30,370 --> 02:54:33,750
Central Florida Public Media's Brendan Byrne has more

4884
02:54:33,750 --> 02:54:34,530
on the astronauts.

4885
02:54:34,750 --> 02:54:37,310
Two hundred and eighty six days in space.

4886
02:54:37,850 --> 02:54:39,850
It was a picture perfect return as the

4887
02:54:39,850 --> 02:54:42,770
SpaceX Dragon capsule gently splashed down under a

4888
02:54:42,770 --> 02:54:45,450
canopy of four parachutes just off the coast

4889
02:54:45,450 --> 02:54:49,250
of Tallahassee, Florida, and splashdown crew nine back

4890
02:54:49,250 --> 02:54:49,730
on Earth.

4891
02:54:51,070 --> 02:54:53,510
But their mission wasn't as smooth as their

4892
02:54:53,510 --> 02:54:54,090
return.

4893
02:54:54,410 --> 02:54:57,550
NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams arrived

4894
02:54:57,550 --> 02:54:59,590
at the station back in June in Boeing

4895
02:54:59,590 --> 02:55:02,550
Starliner spacecraft designed to take astronauts to and

4896
02:55:02,550 --> 02:55:03,150
from the station.

4897
02:55:03,710 --> 02:55:05,390
It was a test flight, but during their

4898
02:55:05,390 --> 02:55:08,030
arrival, the crew encountered problems with the spacecraft's

4899
02:55:08,030 --> 02:55:08,430
thrusters.

4900
02:55:09,210 --> 02:55:12,150
Starliner docked successfully, but NASA decided it wasn't

4901
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:13,670
safe enough to take them home.

4902
02:55:14,250 --> 02:55:17,190
Instead, they went with another company, Elon Musk's

4903
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:18,930
SpaceX, for the return journey.

4904
02:55:19,490 --> 02:55:21,370
Starliner was sent back to Earth without a

4905
02:55:21,370 --> 02:55:23,730
crew in August, and an already planned crew

4906
02:55:23,730 --> 02:55:25,710
mission flew to the station in September with

4907
02:55:25,710 --> 02:55:27,610
only two of its four seats taken by

4908
02:55:27,610 --> 02:55:30,550
NASA's Nick Hague and Russia's Alexander Gorbunov.

4909
02:55:30,790 --> 02:55:32,950
The empty seats were for Wilmore and Williams.

4910
02:55:33,270 --> 02:55:34,890
The four returned home together.

4911
02:55:35,310 --> 02:55:38,970
Nick, Alex, Butch, Sonny, on behalf of SpaceX,

4912
02:55:39,490 --> 02:55:40,450
welcome home.

4913
02:55:40,750 --> 02:55:43,230
During their extended stay, Wilmore and Williams became

4914
02:55:43,230 --> 02:55:46,230
part of the station crew, conducting 150 unique

4915
02:55:46,230 --> 02:55:48,670
science experiments and multiple spacewalks.

4916
02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:51,090
NASA's Steve Stich says despite the mission not

4917
02:55:51,090 --> 02:55:52,270
going as originally planned.

4918
02:55:52,930 --> 02:55:54,570
You know, Butch and Sonny's return on Dragon

4919
02:55:54,570 --> 02:55:56,190
to me shows how important it is to

4920
02:55:56,190 --> 02:55:58,250
have two different crew transportation systems.

4921
02:55:58,510 --> 02:56:00,970
NASA says Boeing is committed to flying Starliner

4922
02:56:00,970 --> 02:56:03,810
again, although when that will happen and whether

4923
02:56:03,810 --> 02:56:05,750
or not it will carry a crew is

4924
02:56:05,750 --> 02:56:06,350
still unclear.

4925
02:56:06,910 --> 02:56:10,390
What I find fascinating about all this is

4926
02:56:10,390 --> 02:56:16,310
that the blue, the blue, the blue thing,

4927
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:18,430
was it blue horizon, blue origin?

4928
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:20,570
What is Bezos's outfit called?

4929
02:56:23,140 --> 02:56:25,420
Yeah, blue, baby blue.

4930
02:56:27,040 --> 02:56:29,820
They've had a lander on the so-called

4931
02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:32,080
moon for two weeks, and you've hardly heard

4932
02:56:32,080 --> 02:56:33,280
anything about it.

4933
02:56:35,100 --> 02:56:35,920
Mainly because.

4934
02:56:35,920 --> 02:56:36,820
It's not doing anything up there.

4935
02:56:36,840 --> 02:56:38,180
Well, it's out of power now.

4936
02:56:38,320 --> 02:56:38,780
It's done.

4937
02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:39,720
Yeah.

4938
02:56:40,460 --> 02:56:40,960
I thought.

4939
02:56:41,780 --> 02:56:42,260
Yes.

4940
02:56:42,860 --> 02:56:44,220
I was going to say, well, go, you

4941
02:56:44,220 --> 02:56:47,420
can finish that thought, because I was discussing

4942
02:56:47,420 --> 02:56:49,280
how I thought that they've stayed up on

4943
02:56:49,280 --> 02:56:50,600
the space station so they can collect a

4944
02:56:50,600 --> 02:56:51,480
bunch of overtime.

4945
02:56:54,600 --> 02:56:57,120
But some one of our producers looked into

4946
02:56:57,120 --> 02:56:58,640
it and found out that they weren't going

4947
02:56:58,640 --> 02:56:59,960
to get any overtime at all.

4948
02:57:00,080 --> 02:57:01,660
They got kind of gypped by this whole

4949
02:57:01,660 --> 02:57:01,940
thing.

4950
02:57:01,960 --> 02:57:04,420
Yeah, they got like 170 bucks a day

4951
02:57:04,420 --> 02:57:05,240
or something.

4952
02:57:05,300 --> 02:57:05,500
Yeah.

4953
02:57:07,300 --> 02:57:09,380
Meals and transportation.

4954
02:57:09,980 --> 02:57:12,060
I think they did get some per diem.

4955
02:57:12,200 --> 02:57:14,740
Yeah, some drink coupons, possibly.

4956
02:57:15,380 --> 02:57:16,940
That's a rough deal, man.

4957
02:57:16,980 --> 02:57:17,600
That's no good.

4958
02:57:18,680 --> 02:57:19,400
Yeah, of course.

4959
02:57:19,600 --> 02:57:21,200
Somebody pointed out that they're both of them

4960
02:57:21,200 --> 02:57:22,860
weren't young, and so they're going to have

4961
02:57:22,860 --> 02:57:24,300
a hard time covering.

4962
02:57:24,300 --> 02:57:25,520
Yeah, hard time.

4963
02:57:26,360 --> 02:57:26,460
Yeah.

4964
02:57:26,980 --> 02:57:28,740
And then, of course, there's the fly.

4965
02:57:29,020 --> 02:57:30,600
You probably saw the fly video.

4966
02:57:30,760 --> 02:57:32,140
Yeah, I saw the fly.

4967
02:57:32,340 --> 02:57:33,440
I'm not buying it.

4968
02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:36,300
You know, it could be any sort of

4969
02:57:36,300 --> 02:57:36,720
anomaly.

4970
02:57:37,040 --> 02:57:38,520
Yeah, you believe it.

4971
02:57:38,580 --> 02:57:40,920
I think the whole splashdown was AI generated.

4972
02:57:41,180 --> 02:57:42,080
It was just AI.

4973
02:57:42,280 --> 02:57:43,040
There was no splashdown.

4974
02:57:43,060 --> 02:57:44,240
AI is not that good.

4975
02:57:44,360 --> 02:57:45,640
AI is very good.

4976
02:57:45,880 --> 02:57:47,320
It's very good at that stuff.

4977
02:57:48,420 --> 02:57:51,340
You know, and that Jensen guy, he keeps

4978
02:57:51,340 --> 02:57:51,620
doing.

4979
02:57:52,020 --> 02:57:53,680
Jensen from NVIDIA.

4980
02:57:54,300 --> 02:57:55,380
Oh, Jensen Wong.

4981
02:57:55,600 --> 02:57:58,160
Yeah, he keeps doing these Steve Jobs things

4982
02:57:58,160 --> 02:58:00,060
with his leather jacket.

4983
02:58:01,580 --> 02:58:03,560
His leather jacket and his sneakers.

4984
02:58:03,560 --> 02:58:06,240
Yeah, and he's got a robot just accompanying

4985
02:58:06,240 --> 02:58:06,660
him.

4986
02:58:06,820 --> 02:58:08,640
Yeah, and he's treating the robot like a

4987
02:58:08,640 --> 02:58:11,220
dog, and there's a stand over there.

4988
02:58:11,500 --> 02:58:14,400
It's like, he's so fake.

4989
02:58:14,760 --> 02:58:16,000
I had dinner with that guy.

4990
02:58:16,660 --> 02:58:16,940
Yeah?

4991
02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:19,800
Yeah, some years back before they really got

4992
02:58:19,800 --> 02:58:20,180
big.

4993
02:58:20,340 --> 02:58:21,640
When he was still a gaming guy?

4994
02:58:23,060 --> 02:58:24,960
Yeah, when he's still a gaming guy.

4995
02:58:25,280 --> 02:58:25,400
Yeah.

4996
02:58:25,540 --> 02:58:26,220
He's a nice guy.

4997
02:58:26,340 --> 02:58:27,360
Yeah, I'm sure he is.

4998
02:58:27,460 --> 02:58:27,740
I like him.

4999
02:58:27,900 --> 02:58:28,860
You can go kick him in the shin.

5000
02:58:28,940 --> 02:58:30,300
I'm sure he's even nicer now.

5001
02:58:30,340 --> 02:58:31,200
Yeah, I'll bet he is.

5002
02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:32,420
Or like, he won't have dinner with me

5003
02:58:32,420 --> 02:58:32,660
now.

5004
02:58:33,140 --> 02:58:34,240
No, no, no, not at all.

5005
02:58:34,280 --> 02:58:34,900
Who's that guy?

5006
02:58:34,960 --> 02:58:35,160
Who?

5007
02:58:36,180 --> 02:58:39,360
I think we need to, I'm going to

5008
02:58:39,360 --> 02:58:44,280
wrap up my offerings for today with some

5009
02:58:44,280 --> 02:58:47,940
measles, because we've got to sound the alarm.

5010
02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:49,560
New York City, under alert.

5011
02:58:49,720 --> 02:58:51,200
I'm calling on all New Yorkers.

5012
02:58:51,200 --> 02:58:53,140
If you've not been vaccinated, your child's not

5013
02:58:53,140 --> 02:58:55,240
vaccinated, please step up and get it done.

5014
02:58:55,660 --> 02:58:58,140
Today, Governor Kathy Hochul spoke about why she

5015
02:58:58,140 --> 02:59:00,660
is sounding the alarm, encouraging all New Yorkers

5016
02:59:00,660 --> 02:59:02,560
to get vaccinated against measles.

5017
02:59:02,820 --> 02:59:05,040
While the outbreaks in Texas and New Mexico

5018
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:08,080
may seem far away, 13 other states are

5019
02:59:08,080 --> 02:59:11,260
reporting cases of measles, including New York State.

5020
02:59:11,640 --> 02:59:14,060
And there is an outbreak in Ontario, Canada,

5021
02:59:14,180 --> 02:59:15,540
which borders New York.

5022
02:59:15,980 --> 02:59:18,660
Governor Hochul is hoping to combat any vaccine

5023
02:59:18,660 --> 02:59:19,460
hesitancy.

5024
02:59:19,460 --> 02:59:22,280
The vaccination has been determined to have saved

5025
02:59:22,280 --> 02:59:25,040
60 million lives over the last 20 years

5026
02:59:25,040 --> 02:59:25,340
alone.

5027
02:59:25,560 --> 02:59:26,480
60 million lives.

5028
02:59:26,640 --> 02:59:27,540
That's extraordinary.

5029
02:59:28,300 --> 02:59:30,420
60 million lives saved?

5030
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:32,120
What?

5031
02:59:32,400 --> 02:59:33,300
Yeah, that's what she's saying.

5032
02:59:33,320 --> 02:59:33,960
What, is she nuts?

5033
02:59:34,380 --> 02:59:37,140
She's saying that the vaccine has saved over

5034
02:59:37,140 --> 02:59:40,240
60 million lives from the deadly measles.

5035
02:59:40,820 --> 02:59:42,140
Oh my God.

5036
02:59:42,260 --> 02:59:45,060
That just doesn't, that's just, that sounds, that's...

5037
02:59:45,060 --> 02:59:46,300
No, it's bullcrap.

5038
02:59:46,320 --> 02:59:47,380
That's what it sounds like.

5039
02:59:47,380 --> 02:59:49,600
We cannot go backwards in this time of

5040
02:59:49,600 --> 02:59:50,840
fear and disinformation.

5041
02:59:51,580 --> 02:59:53,340
It'll only wreak havoc on our state.

5042
02:59:53,920 --> 02:59:54,460
Wreak havoc.

5043
02:59:54,860 --> 02:59:56,000
Let's go forward together.

5044
02:59:56,240 --> 02:59:58,400
The state launched a new web portal today

5045
02:59:58,400 --> 03:00:00,160
with information about measles.

5046
03:00:00,580 --> 03:00:02,780
About 81 percent of New York residents have

5047
03:00:02,780 --> 03:00:05,580
received at least one MMR dose, that is

5048
03:00:05,580 --> 03:00:06,500
the measles vaccine.

5049
03:00:06,960 --> 03:00:07,080
Not enough.

5050
03:00:07,240 --> 03:00:10,120
Since 1989, two doses have been recommended.

5051
03:00:10,700 --> 03:00:12,200
The first dose is given at the age

5052
03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:14,560
of one, the second at four to six

5053
03:00:14,560 --> 03:00:15,320
years of age.

5054
03:00:15,420 --> 03:00:17,200
She's doing this all wrong.

5055
03:00:17,200 --> 03:00:20,420
You've got to offer french fries and a

5056
03:00:20,420 --> 03:00:22,840
Big Mac and then they will get vaccinated.

5057
03:00:23,760 --> 03:00:27,760
But the worst part is Dr. Peter Hotep.

5058
03:00:28,600 --> 03:00:33,680
Hotep, yes, well, he's very, he's celebrating because

5059
03:00:33,680 --> 03:00:36,220
it was, you know, COVID broke out.

5060
03:00:36,620 --> 03:00:38,720
Celebrating another day of life from the looks

5061
03:00:38,720 --> 03:00:39,100
of him.

5062
03:00:40,680 --> 03:00:43,360
Five years ago was when we first came

5063
03:00:43,360 --> 03:00:45,480
out with the mRNA vaccine, which, as you

5064
03:00:45,480 --> 03:00:47,060
know, has been incredibly successful.

5065
03:00:47,680 --> 03:00:48,560
Just ask him.

5066
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:50,020
Just ask President Trump.

5067
03:00:50,700 --> 03:00:51,940
Saved millions of lives.

5068
03:00:52,700 --> 03:00:55,080
Almost as many as the measles vaccine.

5069
03:00:55,220 --> 03:00:56,300
It's just fantastic.

5070
03:00:56,920 --> 03:01:00,140
Five years ago tomorrow, Moderna introduced the first

5071
03:01:00,140 --> 03:01:02,880
human trials for a COVID-19 vaccine.

5072
03:01:03,160 --> 03:01:04,540
But the point, and the point you made

5073
03:01:04,540 --> 03:01:06,620
to us all those years ago, is that

5074
03:01:06,620 --> 03:01:08,780
the research that went into that vaccine and

5075
03:01:08,780 --> 03:01:11,440
the others started well before the pandemic.

5076
03:01:11,440 --> 03:01:13,960
In some cases, 40 years before the pandemic,

5077
03:01:14,080 --> 03:01:15,400
including research that you'd done.

5078
03:01:15,880 --> 03:01:17,180
This is the kind of thing we're talking

5079
03:01:17,180 --> 03:01:17,520
about here.

5080
03:01:17,580 --> 03:01:19,100
Research that's being done in the background that

5081
03:01:19,100 --> 03:01:21,280
most people don't even know for diseases that

5082
03:01:21,280 --> 03:01:22,340
we don't know that we're going to suffer

5083
03:01:22,340 --> 03:01:22,600
from.

5084
03:01:23,180 --> 03:01:24,720
Yeah, that's exactly right, Ali.

5085
03:01:24,820 --> 03:01:28,020
Remember the work going in to show that

5086
03:01:28,020 --> 03:01:30,960
the spike protein, especially the receptor binding domain

5087
03:01:30,960 --> 03:01:33,700
of the spike protein, is the target of

5088
03:01:33,700 --> 03:01:37,040
any vaccine strategy against the coronavirus, whether it's

5089
03:01:37,040 --> 03:01:39,000
SARS or SARS-2, which is the cause

5090
03:01:39,000 --> 03:01:39,880
of COVID-19.

5091
03:01:39,880 --> 03:01:41,860
That was work that was funded in our

5092
03:01:41,860 --> 03:01:45,500
lab all through the 2010s and possibly even

5093
03:01:45,500 --> 03:01:46,780
earlier than that.

5094
03:01:46,960 --> 03:01:49,280
So that was a decade of research funded

5095
03:01:49,280 --> 03:01:50,040
by the NIH.

5096
03:01:50,720 --> 03:01:52,740
And then all of the research that led

5097
03:01:52,740 --> 03:01:54,600
to the Nobel Prize at the University of

5098
03:01:54,600 --> 03:01:58,640
Pennsylvania, scientists for mRNA research, that was 15

5099
03:01:58,640 --> 03:01:59,440
years of research.

5100
03:01:59,780 --> 03:02:04,020
So unfortunately, the American people too often have

5101
03:02:04,020 --> 03:02:06,420
the impression that mRNA vaccines arose out of

5102
03:02:06,420 --> 03:02:07,780
nowhere, and it didn't.

5103
03:02:07,780 --> 03:02:12,300
There was 15 years of significant support from

5104
03:02:12,300 --> 03:02:16,140
the National Institutes of Health that funded two

5105
03:02:16,140 --> 03:02:19,060
convergent lines, one for showing the spike protein

5106
03:02:19,060 --> 03:02:21,480
is a target for coronaviruses, and second, how

5107
03:02:21,480 --> 03:02:25,640
to shape the mRNA as a vaccine strategy.

5108
03:02:26,320 --> 03:02:29,520
A vaccine strategy, not a gene therapy, a

5109
03:02:29,520 --> 03:02:30,680
vaccine strategy.

5110
03:02:30,820 --> 03:02:32,760
And of course, he is singing for his

5111
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:35,880
supper here because he's afraid that Bobby the

5112
03:02:35,880 --> 03:02:38,500
Op may just defund his research.

5113
03:02:38,820 --> 03:02:39,840
Well, what we learned from talking to you

5114
03:02:39,840 --> 03:02:42,380
all those years ago and since then is

5115
03:02:42,380 --> 03:02:44,400
all that we don't know about biology, about

5116
03:02:44,400 --> 03:02:46,280
chemistry, about disease.

5117
03:02:47,260 --> 03:02:49,320
My argument is, that's okay.

5118
03:02:49,620 --> 03:02:51,820
It's okay if everybody watching the show doesn't

5119
03:02:51,820 --> 03:02:53,000
know what the NIH does.

5120
03:02:53,080 --> 03:02:55,080
It's okay if you don't know what clinical

5121
03:02:55,080 --> 03:02:56,340
trials are going on out there.

5122
03:02:56,360 --> 03:02:58,300
Allie Velshi from MSNBC.

5123
03:02:58,800 --> 03:02:59,900
Velshi, Velshi.

5124
03:03:00,140 --> 03:03:02,280
Oh, Velshi, that's a voice I've heard.

5125
03:03:02,320 --> 03:03:03,040
Velshi, Velshi.

5126
03:03:03,040 --> 03:03:05,140
The fact that you can target them because

5127
03:03:05,140 --> 03:03:07,040
people don't know what they are and that

5128
03:03:07,040 --> 03:03:09,020
the government can get away with impunity and

5129
03:03:09,020 --> 03:03:11,560
saying we're cutting all of this research.

5130
03:03:13,060 --> 03:03:14,520
You shouldn't have to know what it is.

5131
03:03:14,560 --> 03:03:15,760
You do have to know that important work

5132
03:03:15,760 --> 03:03:16,240
is being done.

5133
03:03:16,420 --> 03:03:17,020
Important work.

5134
03:03:17,560 --> 03:03:19,520
Well, and not only that, Allie, you're absolutely

5135
03:03:19,520 --> 03:03:21,520
right, but the other aspect is now with

5136
03:03:21,520 --> 03:03:24,320
this mRNA having proof of concept that it

5137
03:03:24,320 --> 03:03:25,740
works for infectious diseases.

5138
03:03:25,760 --> 03:03:26,360
It doesn't work.

5139
03:03:27,080 --> 03:03:27,880
It works.

5140
03:03:28,000 --> 03:03:29,020
It doesn't work.

5141
03:03:29,280 --> 03:03:29,840
Proof of work.

5142
03:03:29,900 --> 03:03:30,500
It's like Bitcoin.

5143
03:03:30,680 --> 03:03:31,380
Proof of work.

5144
03:03:31,380 --> 03:03:33,320
We have proof of work that it works.

5145
03:03:33,440 --> 03:03:34,020
Proof of work.

5146
03:03:34,060 --> 03:03:34,560
It works.

5147
03:03:34,800 --> 03:03:35,480
Safe and effective.

5148
03:03:35,640 --> 03:03:36,140
It works.

5149
03:03:36,560 --> 03:03:38,540
Well, and not only that, Allie, you're absolutely

5150
03:03:38,540 --> 03:03:40,540
right, but the other aspect is now with

5151
03:03:40,540 --> 03:03:43,340
this mRNA having proof of concept that it

5152
03:03:43,340 --> 03:03:44,940
works for infectious diseases.

5153
03:03:45,500 --> 03:03:48,480
Now we're turning it to cancer therapeutics.

5154
03:03:48,580 --> 03:03:50,060
Oh, yeah, of course.

5155
03:03:50,600 --> 03:03:52,660
Yes, problem, reaction, solution.

5156
03:03:53,020 --> 03:03:54,600
So there was a recent report that an

5157
03:03:54,600 --> 03:03:56,520
mRNA vaccine is showing a lot of promise

5158
03:03:56,520 --> 03:04:00,020
in pancreatic cancer, you know, in the past

5159
03:04:00,020 --> 03:04:03,240
has been such a devastating condition that's taken

5160
03:04:03,240 --> 03:04:05,140
the lives of so many of my friends

5161
03:04:05,140 --> 03:04:06,360
and colleagues over the years.

5162
03:04:07,040 --> 03:04:08,580
We're now at Baylor looking at...

5163
03:04:09,580 --> 03:04:12,300
People, as you know, that had pancreatic cancer,

5164
03:04:12,360 --> 03:04:15,200
I'd say that's something wrong with that group.

5165
03:04:15,880 --> 03:04:16,520
With that group.

5166
03:04:18,460 --> 03:04:21,480
My friends and colleagues over the years, we're

5167
03:04:21,480 --> 03:04:23,840
now at Baylor looking at the possibility of

5168
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:26,720
creating an mRNA for triple negative breast cancer.

5169
03:04:26,720 --> 03:04:29,700
So again, this is going to be the

5170
03:04:29,700 --> 03:04:33,900
next generation of cancer therapeutics and we can't

5171
03:04:33,900 --> 03:04:35,000
now cut that off.

5172
03:04:35,960 --> 03:04:38,360
And then we have other pandemic threats coming

5173
03:04:38,360 --> 03:04:39,200
down the line.

5174
03:04:39,260 --> 03:04:43,580
There's this thing called H5N1 that's affecting cattle

5175
03:04:43,580 --> 03:04:46,040
and poultry and now there's been 70 human

5176
03:04:46,040 --> 03:04:46,780
cases so far.

5177
03:04:46,840 --> 03:04:48,420
There's no human to human transmission.

5178
03:04:48,820 --> 03:04:49,260
Not yet.

5179
03:04:49,660 --> 03:04:50,940
But that could happen.

5180
03:04:50,960 --> 03:04:53,240
And it could happen over the next couple

5181
03:04:53,240 --> 03:04:53,720
of years.

5182
03:04:53,860 --> 03:04:55,980
And so we're going to need new vaccines

5183
03:04:55,980 --> 03:04:56,440
for that.

5184
03:04:56,440 --> 03:04:58,720
And that can only come through support from

5185
03:04:58,720 --> 03:05:00,020
the National Institutes of Health.

5186
03:05:00,220 --> 03:05:07,060
I love the conflagration, the confusion about vaccines

5187
03:05:07,060 --> 03:05:08,140
and therapies.

5188
03:05:08,740 --> 03:05:10,660
And this guy is a ghoul.

5189
03:05:11,080 --> 03:05:12,640
And he's a total ghoul.

5190
03:05:12,740 --> 03:05:14,660
But why does the NIH have to be...

5191
03:05:14,660 --> 03:05:18,880
I thought drug companies, pharmaceutical companies, vaccine manufacturers

5192
03:05:18,880 --> 03:05:20,340
and all the rest can do their own

5193
03:05:20,340 --> 03:05:21,300
damn research.

5194
03:05:21,900 --> 03:05:22,760
Thank you.

5195
03:05:23,060 --> 03:05:23,880
Very good point.

5196
03:05:24,020 --> 03:05:25,180
Because that's the research side.

5197
03:05:25,240 --> 03:05:26,380
Then there's the political side.

5198
03:05:26,380 --> 03:05:28,320
And when I say that, I'm referring to

5199
03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:30,580
the measles situation we've got in the United

5200
03:05:30,580 --> 03:05:30,820
States.

5201
03:05:30,920 --> 03:05:32,240
And we've not talked about a measles outbreak

5202
03:05:32,240 --> 03:05:33,800
in this country for a very long time.

5203
03:05:34,160 --> 03:05:36,840
Largely something that people thought was eradicated.

5204
03:05:37,060 --> 03:05:37,680
An outbreak.

5205
03:05:37,900 --> 03:05:39,980
It doesn't take much to shift the political

5206
03:05:39,980 --> 03:05:42,500
winds to cause people to say, I don't

5207
03:05:42,500 --> 03:05:44,560
need vaccines, they're dangerous, they're going to cause

5208
03:05:44,560 --> 03:05:45,780
autism or whatever the case is.

5209
03:05:45,860 --> 03:05:48,520
In some cases, those concerns are rooted in

5210
03:05:48,520 --> 03:05:49,360
some valid fears.

5211
03:05:49,660 --> 03:05:52,200
And in some cases, like MMR, they're simply

5212
03:05:52,200 --> 03:05:52,580
not.

5213
03:05:52,820 --> 03:05:54,620
And yet we have a head of HHS

5214
03:05:54,620 --> 03:05:57,140
who suggests that there may be other ways

5215
03:05:57,140 --> 03:05:57,860
to deal with measles.

5216
03:05:58,100 --> 03:06:00,620
Yeah, like getting it?

5217
03:06:01,840 --> 03:06:02,820
Just a thought?

5218
03:06:03,100 --> 03:06:04,920
Yeah, and it's not the kind of message

5219
03:06:04,920 --> 03:06:05,800
we want to get out.

5220
03:06:05,960 --> 03:06:08,780
I'm here in Texas where the measles epidemic...

5221
03:06:10,720 --> 03:06:11,620
I'm sorry.

5222
03:06:12,300 --> 03:06:13,120
An epidemic?

5223
03:06:16,130 --> 03:06:16,690
Epidemic.

5224
03:06:17,170 --> 03:06:17,730
Adjective.

5225
03:06:18,370 --> 03:06:22,130
Affecting or tending to affect a disproportionately large

5226
03:06:22,130 --> 03:06:24,630
number of individuals within a population.

5227
03:06:25,350 --> 03:06:26,990
This is not an epidemic.

5228
03:06:27,990 --> 03:06:29,650
It's also not an outbreak.

5229
03:06:30,290 --> 03:06:31,450
It's some kids with measles.

5230
03:06:32,170 --> 03:06:34,030
Yeah, and it's not the kind of message

5231
03:06:34,030 --> 03:06:34,870
we want to get out.

5232
03:06:35,070 --> 03:06:37,890
I'm here in Texas where the measles epidemic

5233
03:06:38,370 --> 03:06:41,250
is pretty serious business, where at least 250

5234
03:06:41,250 --> 03:06:43,590
known cases and some of my colleagues in

5235
03:06:43,590 --> 03:06:45,850
West Texas are telling me that number may

5236
03:06:45,850 --> 03:06:46,930
be considerably higher.

5237
03:06:47,290 --> 03:06:48,630
And the one thing you can't hide is

5238
03:06:48,630 --> 03:06:51,390
the 34 hospitalizations.

5239
03:06:51,690 --> 03:06:53,110
Uh-oh, there it is again.

5240
03:06:55,590 --> 03:06:57,690
Now, you called this out a couple of

5241
03:06:57,690 --> 03:06:59,730
shows back and I say, well, that was

5242
03:06:59,730 --> 03:07:00,650
just a mistake.

5243
03:07:01,130 --> 03:07:02,690
But I think you're right now.

5244
03:07:02,870 --> 03:07:03,610
You are correct.

5245
03:07:04,090 --> 03:07:04,670
I can't argue.

5246
03:07:04,670 --> 03:07:05,010
Thank you.

5247
03:07:05,190 --> 03:07:05,790
I was correct.

5248
03:07:05,970 --> 03:07:07,170
Can't argue with your logic.

5249
03:07:07,870 --> 03:07:08,170
Yep.

5250
03:07:08,510 --> 03:07:09,270
They are...

5251
03:07:09,270 --> 03:07:11,050
You say deaths and then you correct yourself.

5252
03:07:11,190 --> 03:07:12,190
They are planting it.

5253
03:07:12,290 --> 03:07:13,070
It's another...

5254
03:07:13,070 --> 03:07:13,490
It's a trick.

5255
03:07:14,030 --> 03:07:16,190
West Texas are telling me that number may

5256
03:07:16,190 --> 03:07:17,270
be considerably higher.

5257
03:07:17,470 --> 03:07:18,970
And the one thing you can't hide is

5258
03:07:18,970 --> 03:07:25,190
the 34 hospitalizations in Texas right now because

5259
03:07:25,190 --> 03:07:25,750
of measles.

5260
03:07:25,870 --> 03:07:28,930
Measles is a serious illness that causes measles

5261
03:07:28,930 --> 03:07:29,430
pneumonia.

5262
03:07:30,230 --> 03:07:31,550
It causes...

5263
03:07:31,550 --> 03:07:32,430
Measles pneumonia.

5264
03:07:33,010 --> 03:07:34,210
That is good.

5265
03:07:34,610 --> 03:07:35,950
It causes measles croup.

5266
03:07:36,050 --> 03:07:38,690
It causes permanent neurologic injury.

5267
03:07:38,950 --> 03:07:39,670
Measles ticks.

5268
03:07:40,010 --> 03:07:41,430
Deafness and...

5269
03:07:41,430 --> 03:07:42,130
Measles Tourette's.

5270
03:07:42,210 --> 03:07:44,790
And this is what's racing through the unvaccinated

5271
03:07:44,790 --> 03:07:45,690
populations.

5272
03:07:46,330 --> 03:07:47,310
In the state of Texas.

5273
03:07:47,510 --> 03:07:49,250
Racing through the unvaccinated population.

5274
03:07:49,250 --> 03:07:51,850
And the only way to slow this epidemic

5275
03:07:51,850 --> 03:07:54,630
down right now is to vaccinate our population.

5276
03:07:54,810 --> 03:07:56,250
Do catch up vaccination campaigns.

5277
03:07:56,430 --> 03:07:58,390
You can even vaccinate individuals.

5278
03:07:58,690 --> 03:07:59,870
That's patently false.

5279
03:08:00,230 --> 03:08:01,770
It's not the only way.

5280
03:08:02,150 --> 03:08:03,150
There's many ways.

5281
03:08:03,490 --> 03:08:05,370
Like letting everybody get the measles.

5282
03:08:05,550 --> 03:08:06,670
It's not the only way.

5283
03:08:06,770 --> 03:08:08,290
We've been exposed to the virus.

5284
03:08:08,570 --> 03:08:10,950
If you vaccinate within 72 hours, that has

5285
03:08:10,950 --> 03:08:12,070
to be all hands on deck.

5286
03:08:12,230 --> 03:08:12,390
And...

5287
03:08:12,390 --> 03:08:12,610
Wait a minute.

5288
03:08:12,690 --> 03:08:15,030
You can vaccinate within 72 hours of getting

5289
03:08:15,030 --> 03:08:17,750
the measles and then it'll cure you?

5290
03:08:19,470 --> 03:08:20,750
That's not true.

5291
03:08:20,870 --> 03:08:21,170
No.

5292
03:08:21,690 --> 03:08:22,690
Vaccinate our population.

5293
03:08:22,870 --> 03:08:24,390
Do catch up vaccination campaigns.

5294
03:08:24,530 --> 03:08:27,110
You can even vaccinate individuals who have been

5295
03:08:27,110 --> 03:08:28,310
exposed to the virus.

5296
03:08:28,430 --> 03:08:30,950
If you vaccinate within 72 hours, that has

5297
03:08:30,950 --> 03:08:32,030
to be all hands on deck.

5298
03:08:32,230 --> 03:08:32,730
All hands on deck.

5299
03:08:32,750 --> 03:08:33,050
I don't know.

5300
03:08:33,090 --> 03:08:34,770
I'm really head scratching what...

5301
03:08:34,770 --> 03:08:35,290
All hands on deck.

5302
03:08:35,430 --> 03:08:36,670
All hands on deck.

5303
03:08:36,810 --> 03:08:37,350
Quick, quick, quick.

5304
03:08:37,450 --> 03:08:38,250
All hands on deck.

5305
03:08:38,350 --> 03:08:39,710
I don't know.

5306
03:08:39,790 --> 03:08:42,490
I'm really head scratching what our Health and

5307
03:08:42,490 --> 03:08:44,110
Human Services Secretary is saying.

5308
03:08:44,290 --> 03:08:46,190
He's starting to talk about vitamin A as

5309
03:08:46,190 --> 03:08:46,870
a preventative.

5310
03:08:47,050 --> 03:08:47,670
It's not.

5311
03:08:48,090 --> 03:08:48,770
It's crazy.

5312
03:08:48,770 --> 03:08:50,570
Decinitis is a steroid.

5313
03:08:50,690 --> 03:08:52,110
I don't know where that comes from.

5314
03:08:52,590 --> 03:08:56,350
The overwhelming message needs to be to vaccinate

5315
03:08:56,350 --> 03:08:57,030
our population.

5316
03:08:57,290 --> 03:08:57,830
Stop it.

5317
03:08:58,070 --> 03:09:00,290
And as long as we have an unvaccinated

5318
03:09:00,290 --> 03:09:03,930
population in Texas, this virus will continue to

5319
03:09:03,930 --> 03:09:04,650
race through it.

5320
03:09:04,730 --> 03:09:06,490
I think of it like a hurricane over

5321
03:09:06,490 --> 03:09:08,010
warm Caribbean waters.

5322
03:09:08,310 --> 03:09:10,010
As long as there's warm water, that hurricane

5323
03:09:10,010 --> 03:09:10,670
will continue.

5324
03:09:10,790 --> 03:09:12,650
It's the same with an unvaccinated population.

5325
03:09:12,770 --> 03:09:13,670
It's a hurricane.

5326
03:09:15,390 --> 03:09:17,530
Unvaccinated population is like a hurricane.

5327
03:09:19,350 --> 03:09:19,710
Wow.

5328
03:09:21,230 --> 03:09:22,450
I have no words.

5329
03:09:23,070 --> 03:09:23,770
I have no words.

5330
03:09:24,010 --> 03:09:24,970
There's nothing you can say.

5331
03:09:25,130 --> 03:09:27,130
No, it's just insane.

5332
03:09:28,290 --> 03:09:29,390
All right, take us home, Joe.

5333
03:09:31,430 --> 03:09:33,370
Uh, you mean with a, uh.

5334
03:09:33,370 --> 03:09:33,790
With a clip.

5335
03:09:34,030 --> 03:09:34,910
Just end it up with a clip.

5336
03:09:34,910 --> 03:09:36,610
I got, okay, it's a two-parter.

5337
03:09:36,650 --> 03:09:37,830
This is the DEI.

5338
03:09:38,010 --> 03:09:40,270
Okay, yes, I'm just telling you we're going

5339
03:09:40,270 --> 03:09:40,650
long.

5340
03:09:41,550 --> 03:09:42,650
I don't want to go long.

5341
03:09:42,710 --> 03:09:44,030
Let me just play something short.

5342
03:09:44,170 --> 03:09:45,150
Yeah, play something short.

5343
03:09:45,790 --> 03:09:47,150
Couldn't be any shorter than this.

5344
03:09:47,190 --> 03:09:48,730
I like to know how this works, but

5345
03:09:48,730 --> 03:09:51,610
Mexico's captured the FBI's most wanted guy.

5346
03:09:52,130 --> 03:09:54,310
The White House announced the capture of another

5347
03:09:54,310 --> 03:09:57,390
fugitive from the FBI's 10 most wanted list.

5348
03:09:57,690 --> 03:10:00,270
The statement says the fugitive is called Francisco

5349
03:10:00,270 --> 03:10:03,170
Javier Mambadales and that he's a senior leader

5350
03:10:03,170 --> 03:10:05,130
of the brutal MS-13 gang.

5351
03:10:05,610 --> 03:10:08,130
He'll be extradited from Mexico to face charges

5352
03:10:08,130 --> 03:10:09,210
in the United States.

5353
03:10:09,570 --> 03:10:10,350
Oh, that's easy.

5354
03:10:11,530 --> 03:10:15,710
The Mexican gangs don't want terrorists.

5355
03:10:16,630 --> 03:10:16,810
Well, here.

5356
03:10:16,870 --> 03:10:17,770
They don't want that guy.

5357
03:10:18,870 --> 03:10:20,190
We don't want this guy.

5358
03:10:20,270 --> 03:10:21,230
This guy's no good.

5359
03:10:21,410 --> 03:10:21,970
Take him.

5360
03:10:22,150 --> 03:10:22,890
Yeah, take him.

5361
03:10:23,330 --> 03:10:25,330
I'm going to show my support by donating

5362
03:10:25,330 --> 03:10:26,230
to No Agenda.

5363
03:10:26,370 --> 03:10:28,290
Imagine all the people who could do that.

5364
03:10:28,510 --> 03:10:29,510
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

5365
03:10:36,110 --> 03:10:38,170
Yeah, we are going a little bit long,

5366
03:10:38,270 --> 03:10:40,330
but it's good because we've got Commodores.

5367
03:10:40,550 --> 03:10:42,250
We've got tons of birthdays.

5368
03:10:42,670 --> 03:10:43,310
Commodores again.

5369
03:10:43,610 --> 03:10:45,790
Yeah, the Commodores are stepping up, man.

5370
03:10:45,890 --> 03:10:46,570
They're stepping up.

5371
03:10:46,630 --> 03:10:47,150
We love it.

5372
03:10:47,210 --> 03:10:47,890
It's about time.

5373
03:10:47,890 --> 03:10:49,410
We love the Commodores.

5374
03:10:49,610 --> 03:10:51,430
Brian Carucci stepped up in Scottsdale, Arizona with

5375
03:10:51,430 --> 03:10:57,190
$133.33. Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee.

5376
03:10:57,310 --> 03:10:58,250
One, two, three, four, five.

5377
03:10:58,430 --> 03:10:59,390
Ah, he's from Mercy Me.

5378
03:10:59,550 --> 03:11:00,510
There's your boys.

5379
03:11:00,830 --> 03:11:01,290
Oh, yeah.

5380
03:11:01,450 --> 03:11:01,790
Hey.

5381
03:11:02,050 --> 03:11:02,410
Hey.

5382
03:11:02,710 --> 03:11:03,130
Nathan.

5383
03:11:03,330 --> 03:11:03,710
Hey.

5384
03:11:03,950 --> 03:11:04,210
Hey.

5385
03:11:05,290 --> 03:11:06,790
Good to hear from you.

5386
03:11:06,930 --> 03:11:07,170
Yeah.

5387
03:11:07,390 --> 03:11:08,370
Franklin, Tennessee.

5388
03:11:08,630 --> 03:11:09,070
That's right.

5389
03:11:09,290 --> 03:11:11,290
Tennessee's a music place.

5390
03:11:11,650 --> 03:11:13,190
It's Music City, USA, baby.

5391
03:11:15,370 --> 03:11:16,410
Brendan Forcade.

5392
03:11:17,110 --> 03:11:20,970
Forcade in Poulsbo, Washington.

5393
03:11:21,190 --> 03:11:21,430
$100.

5394
03:11:21,850 --> 03:11:23,370
Anyone who gets a chance, go through that

5395
03:11:23,370 --> 03:11:23,610
town.

5396
03:11:23,670 --> 03:11:24,390
It's quite cute.

5397
03:11:25,150 --> 03:11:27,010
Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.

5398
03:11:27,430 --> 03:11:27,870
8008.

5399
03:11:27,930 --> 03:11:28,530
There he is.

5400
03:11:29,270 --> 03:11:30,710
He's the Archduke of Luna.

5401
03:11:30,850 --> 03:11:31,570
Lover of American.

5402
03:11:31,750 --> 03:11:32,530
Lover of boobs.

5403
03:11:35,390 --> 03:11:36,270
Jason Mayery.

5404
03:11:36,570 --> 03:11:37,010
Mayery?

5405
03:11:37,270 --> 03:11:37,710
Mayery?

5406
03:11:37,850 --> 03:11:38,230
Mayery?

5407
03:11:38,370 --> 03:11:38,870
I don't know.

5408
03:11:40,270 --> 03:11:42,810
In Wanaki, Wisconsin.

5409
03:11:46,230 --> 03:11:47,650
K9FYW, 73.

5410
03:11:47,910 --> 03:11:48,150
73.

5411
03:11:48,210 --> 03:11:51,130
Donation is 73, 73, 73, 73.

5412
03:11:51,450 --> 03:11:52,850
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.

5413
03:11:56,480 --> 03:11:59,540
He says the nation's fifth largest cell carrier

5414
03:11:59,540 --> 03:12:01,620
is being eaten by the second largest.

5415
03:12:02,420 --> 03:12:04,060
I don't even know who is number five.

5416
03:12:05,220 --> 03:12:06,520
Dame Becky's up.

5417
03:12:06,960 --> 03:12:08,020
69, 69.

5418
03:12:08,180 --> 03:12:09,420
She's in Arlington, Washington.

5419
03:12:09,980 --> 03:12:12,320
Sir Lineman, 67, 89.

5420
03:12:12,320 --> 03:12:14,580
Baron of Southern Chilanoes.

5421
03:12:15,120 --> 03:12:16,900
Oh, he's getting surgery next week to remove

5422
03:12:16,900 --> 03:12:18,740
a brain tumor the size of a tennis

5423
03:12:18,740 --> 03:12:19,440
ball.

5424
03:12:19,920 --> 03:12:21,120
Jeez, that's gotta hurt.

5425
03:12:21,200 --> 03:12:23,120
Well, we stop right away for karma for

5426
03:12:23,120 --> 03:12:23,340
him.

5427
03:12:23,480 --> 03:12:24,060
Health karma.

5428
03:12:24,220 --> 03:12:25,660
You've got karma.

5429
03:12:26,660 --> 03:12:29,240
Not gonna mess around with that.

5430
03:12:29,280 --> 03:12:29,620
Kevin O'Brien, Chicago.

5431
03:12:30,760 --> 03:12:31,860
6006, small boobs.

5432
03:12:33,080 --> 03:12:35,620
Scott Schreiber in Madrid, Maryland.

5433
03:12:36,300 --> 03:12:36,840
Oh, I'm sorry.

5434
03:12:36,860 --> 03:12:37,960
He's not in Madrid, Maryland.

5435
03:12:38,120 --> 03:12:38,900
That's what it says.

5436
03:12:38,980 --> 03:12:40,580
But no, it's Madrid, Spain.

5437
03:12:41,220 --> 03:12:44,660
Some province or whatever it is.

5438
03:12:44,920 --> 03:12:46,900
MD, 57, 98.

5439
03:12:47,040 --> 03:12:50,680
Happy Father's Day in Spain from Scott Schreiber

5440
03:12:50,680 --> 03:12:53,240
by the Riverside.

5441
03:12:53,820 --> 03:12:55,140
Okay, thanks, Scott.

5442
03:12:57,660 --> 03:13:01,140
Sir Brofessy in Lancaster, New Mexico.

5443
03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:02,880
55, 55.

5444
03:13:03,980 --> 03:13:05,000
He's in the White Mountains.

5445
03:13:06,080 --> 03:13:07,660
Dean Roker, 55, 10.

5446
03:13:12,080 --> 03:13:15,320
Srinivas Murthy in Culpeper, Virginia.

5447
03:13:15,440 --> 03:13:16,440
Somebody's pounding something.

5448
03:13:16,540 --> 03:13:18,780
Stop the hammering outside.

5449
03:13:20,340 --> 03:13:24,300
5273, and it's a happy birthday to Radha

5450
03:13:24,300 --> 03:13:25,200
Murthy.

5451
03:13:26,080 --> 03:13:27,360
Turning 95.

5452
03:13:28,160 --> 03:13:29,500
Ooh, good work.

5453
03:13:30,420 --> 03:13:33,600
Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 5250.

5454
03:13:33,700 --> 03:13:34,720
And now we got to read to the

5455
03:13:34,720 --> 03:13:35,240
50s.

5456
03:13:35,620 --> 03:13:36,940
It's actually a pretty short list today.

5457
03:13:36,940 --> 03:13:40,960
And the $50 donors are another short list.

5458
03:13:41,060 --> 03:13:42,760
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.

5459
03:13:42,920 --> 03:13:44,960
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.

5460
03:13:45,660 --> 03:13:48,580
Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia.

5461
03:13:49,100 --> 03:13:52,360
Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.

5462
03:13:52,500 --> 03:13:56,660
And last, Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.

5463
03:13:56,800 --> 03:13:59,280
Want to thank these folks and everybody else

5464
03:13:59,280 --> 03:14:02,160
for helping us do show 17.

5465
03:14:02,900 --> 03:14:04,000
I don't know what it is.

5466
03:14:04,560 --> 03:14:05,180
48.

5467
03:14:05,180 --> 03:14:05,880
48.

5468
03:14:06,880 --> 03:14:09,060
You don't know how old your grandson is.

5469
03:14:09,160 --> 03:14:10,200
Don't know what show it is.

5470
03:14:10,420 --> 03:14:10,840
Numbers, numbers.

5471
03:14:11,160 --> 03:14:12,840
But you know how to sort the towels.

5472
03:14:13,680 --> 03:14:15,380
Thank you to everyone who came in under

5473
03:14:15,380 --> 03:14:17,080
$50 for reasons of anonymity.

5474
03:14:17,160 --> 03:14:18,080
We never mentioned those.

5475
03:14:18,200 --> 03:14:20,120
And remember, you can always put together a

5476
03:14:20,120 --> 03:14:20,980
sustaining donation.

5477
03:14:21,240 --> 03:14:22,120
You determine the amount.

5478
03:14:22,220 --> 03:14:23,180
You determine the frequency.

5479
03:14:23,340 --> 03:14:25,020
Go to noagendedonations.com.

5480
03:14:25,340 --> 03:14:25,880
Help us out.

5481
03:14:25,980 --> 03:14:27,620
And again, thanks to our executive and associate

5482
03:14:27,620 --> 03:14:29,920
executive producers for episode 1748.

5483
03:14:29,920 --> 03:14:31,980
noagendedonations.com.

5484
03:14:37,020 --> 03:14:39,840
Well, Dame Becky turned 73 on March 2nd.

5485
03:14:39,880 --> 03:14:41,000
We say happy birthday to her.

5486
03:14:41,120 --> 03:14:43,660
Sir Mike turned 74 on the 8th.

5487
03:14:43,780 --> 03:14:46,320
Dame Stacy, she celebrates tomorrow.

5488
03:14:46,580 --> 03:14:50,540
Jesse Scholarud wishes his son Andrew a very

5489
03:14:50,540 --> 03:14:51,060
happy birthday.

5490
03:14:51,180 --> 03:14:53,220
He'll be 20 on the 24th.

5491
03:14:53,920 --> 03:14:57,420
Srinivas Murthy, happy 95th birthday to his mom,

5492
03:14:57,540 --> 03:14:58,300
Radha Murthy.

5493
03:14:58,300 --> 03:15:01,320
Baroness Sarah Rupert wishes Jonathan Rupert a very

5494
03:15:01,320 --> 03:15:02,380
happy 50th.

5495
03:15:02,720 --> 03:15:05,060
Sir Polly Bravo, happy birthday to Chauncey.

5496
03:15:05,360 --> 03:15:07,380
Long birthday note here from Claire Hedges.

5497
03:15:07,500 --> 03:15:09,580
Claire says happy birthday to Piers Chitley of

5498
03:15:09,580 --> 03:15:10,300
Melbourne, Australia.

5499
03:15:10,520 --> 03:15:12,280
You are the body of an athlete, the

5500
03:15:12,280 --> 03:15:14,320
mind of a stoic, the spirit of a

5501
03:15:14,320 --> 03:15:15,780
warrior, and the heart of a poet.

5502
03:15:16,080 --> 03:15:18,260
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best

5503
03:15:18,260 --> 03:15:19,660
podcasting in the universe.

5504
03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:34,440
We've got Sir Mike Baronet, Sir Mike Baronet,

5505
03:15:34,520 --> 03:15:37,020
Sir Mike, who upped his support to the

5506
03:15:37,020 --> 03:15:38,740
show of over $1,000 or more.

5507
03:15:38,800 --> 03:15:40,520
So he becomes Sir Mike Baron of the

5508
03:15:40,520 --> 03:15:43,240
Great Katy Prairie, protectorate of the Gulf Coast

5509
03:15:43,240 --> 03:15:43,840
of Texas.

5510
03:15:44,500 --> 03:15:47,800
Dame Becky Baronettas Dame Becky becomes Dame Becky

5511
03:15:47,800 --> 03:15:50,360
Baroness of the Great Katy Prairie, protectorate of

5512
03:15:50,360 --> 03:15:51,460
the Gulf Coast of Texas.

5513
03:15:51,920 --> 03:15:55,800
And Baron Dude Named Jeff becomes Viscount Dude

5514
03:15:55,800 --> 03:15:56,680
Named Jeff.

5515
03:15:56,680 --> 03:15:58,740
Thank you all so much for the extra

5516
03:15:58,740 --> 03:15:59,180
support.

5517
03:15:59,300 --> 03:16:00,620
We really appreciate it.

5518
03:16:00,640 --> 03:16:02,220
Now we have a couple of Commodores that

5519
03:16:02,220 --> 03:16:02,860
we can welcome.

5520
03:16:03,380 --> 03:16:06,620
They will receive their official certificate as always.

5521
03:16:06,820 --> 03:16:08,660
We are very proud to welcome the following

5522
03:16:08,660 --> 03:16:09,360
Commodores.

5523
03:16:09,840 --> 03:16:12,080
Sir Animus of Dogpats and Lower Slumovia.

5524
03:16:12,220 --> 03:16:13,860
Sir Mike of the Great Katy Prairie.

5525
03:16:13,980 --> 03:16:15,820
Dame Becky of the Great Katy Prairie.

5526
03:16:15,980 --> 03:16:17,960
Chap Williams and Ryan Schubert.

5527
03:16:18,080 --> 03:16:20,220
All of you are now official No Agenda

5528
03:16:20,220 --> 03:16:21,000
Commodores.

5529
03:16:21,240 --> 03:16:22,200
Commodores arriving.

5530
03:16:22,920 --> 03:16:24,920
And go to noagenderings.com.

5531
03:16:25,320 --> 03:16:28,700
Pick up your official Commodore certificate by sending

5532
03:16:28,700 --> 03:16:29,720
us an address.

5533
03:16:29,940 --> 03:16:32,040
That'll be interesting for Sir Animus of Dogpats

5534
03:16:32,040 --> 03:16:32,840
and Lower Slumovia.

5535
03:16:33,400 --> 03:16:35,480
I'm very curious where he's going to pick

5536
03:16:35,480 --> 03:16:36,880
up his Commodore certificate.

5537
03:16:37,400 --> 03:16:38,360
You never know.

5538
03:16:38,680 --> 03:16:39,260
You never know.

5539
03:16:40,320 --> 03:16:41,680
Two knights to bring up today.

5540
03:16:42,820 --> 03:16:44,240
Bring up your knight blade, John.

5541
03:16:44,320 --> 03:16:44,740
We got two knights.

5542
03:16:44,740 --> 03:16:45,040
Here you go.

5543
03:16:45,140 --> 03:16:45,920
No, that's beautiful.

5544
03:16:47,320 --> 03:16:49,860
Hey, Scott Lamont and Jonathan Rupert.

5545
03:16:49,900 --> 03:16:51,220
Both of you hop up on the podium.

5546
03:16:51,220 --> 03:16:52,920
You are about to become knights of the

5547
03:16:52,920 --> 03:16:53,960
No Agenda Roundtable.

5548
03:16:54,320 --> 03:16:55,660
Thanks to your support in the show of

5549
03:16:55,660 --> 03:16:56,800
$1,000 or more.

5550
03:16:56,880 --> 03:16:58,840
I'm very proud to pronounce you KB as

5551
03:16:58,840 --> 03:17:01,640
Sir Scott, the White Knight of Pottersville Village

5552
03:17:01,640 --> 03:17:03,160
in Somerset, TX.

5553
03:17:03,500 --> 03:17:05,720
And Sir Jonathan Rupert.

5554
03:17:05,940 --> 03:17:07,920
For you, we have Hookers and Blow, Red

5555
03:17:07,920 --> 03:17:09,200
Boys and Chardonnay.

5556
03:17:09,560 --> 03:17:11,960
Along with that, by request, Caymus, Cabernet Sauvignon

5557
03:17:11,960 --> 03:17:13,300
with salt and vinegar almonds.

5558
03:17:13,880 --> 03:17:16,500
Also, we've got Rubenesque, Ruben and Rosé, Geishas

5559
03:17:16,500 --> 03:17:18,720
and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bongheads and Bourbon.

5560
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:21,200
We've got Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale

5561
03:17:21,200 --> 03:17:22,620
and Gerbils, Fresh Milk and Pablum.

5562
03:17:22,700 --> 03:17:23,800
And as always at the end of the

5563
03:17:23,800 --> 03:17:25,260
table, Mutton and Me.

5564
03:17:28,190 --> 03:17:29,810
Both of you head over to No Agenda

5565
03:17:29,810 --> 03:17:30,590
Rings as well.

5566
03:17:30,670 --> 03:17:31,810
Watch out for those Commodores.

5567
03:17:31,870 --> 03:17:32,950
You don't want to bump into them.

5568
03:17:33,370 --> 03:17:34,930
And you can take a look at that

5569
03:17:34,930 --> 03:17:37,250
handsome Signet Ring, which is your knight ring

5570
03:17:37,250 --> 03:17:38,610
for good, forever for keeps.

5571
03:17:39,110 --> 03:17:40,730
And along with that, you get some wax

5572
03:17:40,730 --> 03:17:41,810
because it's a Signet Ring.

5573
03:17:41,870 --> 03:17:43,670
So you can seal your important correspondence.

5574
03:17:44,150 --> 03:17:46,930
And also a certificate of authenticity, of course.

5575
03:17:46,990 --> 03:17:47,590
And thank you.

5576
03:17:47,930 --> 03:17:50,470
Thank you for being and becoming knights of

5577
03:17:50,470 --> 03:17:51,530
the No Agenda Roundtable.

5578
03:17:52,570 --> 03:17:55,650
No Agenda Meetups!

5579
03:17:59,090 --> 03:18:01,470
One of the best parts of being part

5580
03:18:01,470 --> 03:18:03,290
of No Agenda Nation is going to a

5581
03:18:03,290 --> 03:18:03,590
meetup.

5582
03:18:03,690 --> 03:18:05,010
This is where you meet the people who

5583
03:18:05,010 --> 03:18:06,890
will be your first responders in an emergency.

5584
03:18:07,130 --> 03:18:08,190
These are producer organized.

5585
03:18:08,410 --> 03:18:10,350
You can find them at noagendameetups.com.

5586
03:18:10,650 --> 03:18:12,430
They are the people who bring you connection

5587
03:18:12,430 --> 03:18:13,290
and protection.

5588
03:18:13,870 --> 03:18:15,630
And this is exactly what took place at

5589
03:18:15,630 --> 03:18:17,790
the North Idaho Sanity Brigade Meetup.

5590
03:18:17,850 --> 03:18:19,710
This is the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

5591
03:18:19,770 --> 03:18:20,770
And we are in the moment.

5592
03:18:20,770 --> 03:18:22,830
It sure shocked a Jew here.

5593
03:18:23,070 --> 03:18:24,690
My dad is one of the highest paid

5594
03:18:24,690 --> 03:18:26,090
nutritionists in North Idaho.

5595
03:18:26,310 --> 03:18:28,910
But for some reason, nobody believes him when

5596
03:18:28,910 --> 03:18:30,830
he says he has bigorexia.

5597
03:18:31,090 --> 03:18:32,950
Sir Donald with the fire bottles, trying to

5598
03:18:32,950 --> 03:18:34,670
figure out why I'm the only one here

5599
03:18:34,670 --> 03:18:36,850
who has programmed a vacuum tube computer.

5600
03:18:37,170 --> 03:18:38,830
It's Lloyd the Brewer and the newest member

5601
03:18:38,830 --> 03:18:40,650
of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

5602
03:18:40,750 --> 03:18:41,830
Just want to say thank you for what

5603
03:18:41,830 --> 03:18:43,850
you do and see you tomorrow morning.

5604
03:18:44,110 --> 03:18:46,530
Adam, good pronunciation of Coeur d'Alene.

5605
03:18:46,790 --> 03:18:47,990
I don't got anything to say.

5606
03:18:48,350 --> 03:18:50,010
That was my son, Quincy.

5607
03:18:50,010 --> 03:18:52,890
This is Sir Ducifer finishing up a six

5608
03:18:52,890 --> 03:18:54,470
day snowboard run.

5609
03:18:54,550 --> 03:18:54,830
Wow.

5610
03:18:54,950 --> 03:18:57,690
Hanging out with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade

5611
03:18:57,690 --> 03:18:58,370
in the morning.

5612
03:18:58,610 --> 03:19:01,130
Sir Ellie Fonts here in the morning.

5613
03:19:01,270 --> 03:19:03,450
This is Brian from West Falls, soon to

5614
03:19:03,450 --> 03:19:05,690
be Sir of Stable Storefront.

5615
03:19:05,930 --> 03:19:08,630
A couple suggestions for a show title.

5616
03:19:08,870 --> 03:19:10,190
Credibility Flambe.

5617
03:19:10,450 --> 03:19:12,270
Perhaps the end of show ISO.

5618
03:19:13,030 --> 03:19:14,250
Dvorak is a fraud.

5619
03:19:14,550 --> 03:19:16,970
Bring back real ISOs.

5620
03:19:18,410 --> 03:19:20,450
That's my crew right there, man.

5621
03:19:20,650 --> 03:19:22,110
Nice to see Sir Ducifer.

5622
03:19:22,110 --> 03:19:23,990
There's a lot of famous people in that

5623
03:19:23,990 --> 03:19:24,190
one.

5624
03:19:24,530 --> 03:19:26,930
Yeah, we got Sir Donald with the fire

5625
03:19:26,930 --> 03:19:27,350
bottles.

5626
03:19:27,470 --> 03:19:28,250
That was very good.

5627
03:19:28,590 --> 03:19:31,210
Remember to include your servers in these reports,

5628
03:19:31,390 --> 03:19:31,590
please.

5629
03:19:31,770 --> 03:19:33,810
We got a couple of meetups taking place

5630
03:19:33,810 --> 03:19:34,150
today.

5631
03:19:34,210 --> 03:19:37,290
Underway as we speak, the Central Wisconsin WowSaw

5632
03:19:37,290 --> 03:19:38,590
in Skonis.

5633
03:19:38,650 --> 03:19:40,190
That's in Schofield, Wisconsin.

5634
03:19:40,710 --> 03:19:42,850
The It's Cold as Hot Tucson meetup underway

5635
03:19:42,850 --> 03:19:45,170
at Canyon's Crown in Tucson, Arizona.

5636
03:19:45,170 --> 03:19:48,630
The Denver Spring Equinox meetup kicks off in

5637
03:19:48,630 --> 03:19:49,950
just about an hour and a half from

5638
03:19:49,950 --> 03:19:52,110
now at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.

5639
03:19:52,690 --> 03:19:54,190
Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday.

5640
03:19:54,310 --> 03:19:55,650
This is their fourth anniversary.

5641
03:19:56,210 --> 03:19:58,390
That'll be this evening at Edge Tavern in

5642
03:19:58,390 --> 03:19:59,390
Charlotte, North Carolina.

5643
03:19:59,530 --> 03:20:02,450
And tomorrow, the Round Rock Roundup, 6.33

5644
03:20:02,450 --> 03:20:03,750
here in Texas.

5645
03:20:03,870 --> 03:20:04,590
Round Rock, Texas.

5646
03:20:04,770 --> 03:20:06,270
Cork & Barrel on Saturday.

5647
03:20:06,410 --> 03:20:08,010
The City of Fountains meetup at two o

5648
03:20:08,010 --> 03:20:10,330
'clock at Burg & Barrel in Overland Park,

5649
03:20:10,410 --> 03:20:10,710
Kansas.

5650
03:20:11,150 --> 03:20:12,970
And on Sunday, our next show day, the

5651
03:20:12,970 --> 03:20:15,890
Dems Ides of March Indy No Agenda meetup,

5652
03:20:15,970 --> 03:20:17,870
three o'clock at St. Joseph Brewery and

5653
03:20:17,870 --> 03:20:20,150
Public House in Indianapolis, Indiana.

5654
03:20:20,290 --> 03:20:21,090
That's always a big group.

5655
03:20:21,190 --> 03:20:22,850
We always look forward to your meetup reports.

5656
03:20:23,350 --> 03:20:25,130
Many more on the calendar.

5657
03:20:25,650 --> 03:20:27,910
All of these meetups, again, are scheduled and

5658
03:20:27,910 --> 03:20:29,290
produced by producers.

5659
03:20:30,830 --> 03:20:31,490
Go hang out.

5660
03:20:31,750 --> 03:20:32,930
Figure out who else is listening.

5661
03:20:33,130 --> 03:20:35,630
You will always enjoy a No Agenda meetup.

5662
03:20:35,690 --> 03:20:36,650
In fact, it's like chips.

5663
03:20:36,930 --> 03:20:38,550
You eat one, you can't stop at all.

5664
03:20:38,690 --> 03:20:40,830
Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find

5665
03:20:40,830 --> 03:20:41,450
one near you.

5666
03:20:41,450 --> 03:20:42,690
Start one yourself.

5667
03:20:42,830 --> 03:20:44,290
It's easy and always a party.

5668
03:21:01,970 --> 03:21:04,370
Yeah, baby.

5669
03:21:04,750 --> 03:21:05,970
Always like a party.

5670
03:21:06,570 --> 03:21:08,690
And now we come to the phony baloney

5671
03:21:08,690 --> 03:21:12,030
iso competition that John is just cheating and

5672
03:21:12,030 --> 03:21:13,070
we want real isos.

5673
03:21:13,210 --> 03:21:14,990
So I'm going to play some real isos

5674
03:21:14,990 --> 03:21:16,970
and then you can play your cheats, okay?

5675
03:21:17,110 --> 03:21:18,190
So here's my first one.

5676
03:21:18,370 --> 03:21:19,950
And so there we are.

5677
03:21:20,970 --> 03:21:22,190
That's too muddled.

5678
03:21:22,410 --> 03:21:23,030
That's too muddled.

5679
03:21:23,110 --> 03:21:23,610
Here's another one.

5680
03:21:23,950 --> 03:21:24,490
Here's another one.

5681
03:21:24,570 --> 03:21:26,210
Yet again, I find myself amazed.

5682
03:21:27,210 --> 03:21:28,690
Yeah, didn't like the cutoff.

5683
03:21:28,830 --> 03:21:29,430
Here's my favorite.

5684
03:21:29,590 --> 03:21:31,170
Hey, you can't be my age.

5685
03:21:31,250 --> 03:21:32,150
You're gonna be a lot different.

5686
03:21:33,790 --> 03:21:34,570
That was you.

5687
03:21:35,370 --> 03:21:36,090
Yeah, I figured.

5688
03:21:36,370 --> 03:21:36,710
Okay.

5689
03:21:37,010 --> 03:21:37,390
Yeah, all right.

5690
03:21:37,450 --> 03:21:38,410
Come up with your phone.

5691
03:21:38,410 --> 03:21:42,050
So Mimi said to me, she challenged me.

5692
03:21:42,110 --> 03:21:44,990
She says, you know, you've been caught.

5693
03:21:45,130 --> 03:21:46,750
Now you got to try to get the

5694
03:21:46,750 --> 03:21:52,030
thing to do some street sounding, some ghetto.

5695
03:21:52,270 --> 03:21:53,710
Something that's a little different.

5696
03:21:53,710 --> 03:21:54,050
Oh, wait, wait.

5697
03:21:54,110 --> 03:21:55,350
So you're not doing isos.

5698
03:21:55,570 --> 03:21:56,730
You're once again doing...

5699
03:21:56,730 --> 03:21:58,290
No, I'm doing the same isos because I

5700
03:21:58,290 --> 03:21:58,990
couldn't get...

5701
03:21:58,990 --> 03:22:02,190
I tried to get everybody on the list.

5702
03:22:02,250 --> 03:22:04,950
I think if I upgrade my subscription to...

5703
03:22:04,950 --> 03:22:06,050
No, that's not an iso.

5704
03:22:06,170 --> 03:22:08,390
That's an AI phony baloney game.

5705
03:22:08,390 --> 03:22:10,450
But the phony baloney, if I could get...

5706
03:22:10,450 --> 03:22:12,630
I wanted to go, yo, yo, yo, what

5707
03:22:12,630 --> 03:22:14,770
up, dope show.

5708
03:22:16,770 --> 03:22:17,970
It can't do that?

5709
03:22:18,510 --> 03:22:18,950
No.

5710
03:22:20,810 --> 03:22:23,270
And everything works out except the dope show.

5711
03:22:23,410 --> 03:22:24,730
It won't say dope show.

5712
03:22:24,750 --> 03:22:24,990
Okay, all right.

5713
03:22:25,090 --> 03:22:26,730
So what we're going to do now, we're

5714
03:22:26,730 --> 03:22:27,790
not going to call it isos.

5715
03:22:27,870 --> 03:22:30,030
We're going to call it the agentic AI

5716
03:22:30,030 --> 03:22:30,570
segment.

5717
03:22:30,970 --> 03:22:32,290
And I will see...

5718
03:22:32,290 --> 03:22:33,730
I'm not going to compete with you on

5719
03:22:33,730 --> 03:22:35,310
who can make better AI voices.

5720
03:22:36,910 --> 03:22:37,310
Yeah.

5721
03:22:39,750 --> 03:22:40,150
Okay.

5722
03:22:40,510 --> 03:22:42,910
The show evolves, you know, it's...

5723
03:22:42,910 --> 03:22:44,770
Yeah, okay, but we can't call it an

5724
03:22:44,770 --> 03:22:45,190
iso.

5725
03:22:45,790 --> 03:22:47,490
No, I just called it an iso for

5726
03:22:47,490 --> 03:22:49,390
the purposes of the list, so you can

5727
03:22:49,390 --> 03:22:50,410
find it on the list.

5728
03:22:50,910 --> 03:22:51,690
So I got three.

5729
03:22:51,890 --> 03:22:52,930
All right, what do you got?

5730
03:22:52,950 --> 03:22:53,730
I got done.

5731
03:22:54,350 --> 03:22:55,350
We're done, now go home.

5732
03:22:56,450 --> 03:22:56,850
Yeah.

5733
03:22:57,930 --> 03:22:58,330
Great.

5734
03:22:58,730 --> 03:22:59,390
I give up.

5735
03:22:59,730 --> 03:23:00,630
Another great show.

5736
03:23:01,390 --> 03:23:02,850
That sounded pretty AI.

5737
03:23:04,050 --> 03:23:04,830
That's a fail.

5738
03:23:04,910 --> 03:23:05,290
That's a fail.

5739
03:23:06,210 --> 03:23:08,690
And that guy couldn't do yo, yo, yo,

5740
03:23:08,810 --> 03:23:09,310
what up?

5741
03:23:09,650 --> 03:23:09,890
No.

5742
03:23:10,970 --> 03:23:14,350
Which is incredibly white of you, but okay,

5743
03:23:14,610 --> 03:23:15,270
I digress.

5744
03:23:15,270 --> 03:23:16,170
Yeah, of course it is.

5745
03:23:16,230 --> 03:23:16,610
I'm white.

5746
03:23:16,770 --> 03:23:16,990
Hello.

5747
03:23:17,330 --> 03:23:17,770
Hello.

5748
03:23:18,430 --> 03:23:19,430
And the final one?

5749
03:23:19,950 --> 03:23:20,330
Sexy.

5750
03:23:20,630 --> 03:23:22,850
Another show that exudes sexiness.

5751
03:23:23,510 --> 03:23:23,950
Yes.

5752
03:23:25,970 --> 03:23:27,810
You're losing your touch, man.

5753
03:23:28,350 --> 03:23:29,510
You know, now I've lost...

5754
03:23:29,510 --> 03:23:30,390
Let me hear this one.

5755
03:23:30,410 --> 03:23:31,350
We're done, now go home.

5756
03:23:31,770 --> 03:23:33,130
I kind of like that one the best.

5757
03:23:33,190 --> 03:23:34,130
Yeah, use that one.

5758
03:23:34,130 --> 03:23:34,490
All right.

5759
03:23:34,490 --> 03:23:36,510
And now everybody, it's time for everybody's highlight

5760
03:23:36,510 --> 03:23:37,290
of the program.

5761
03:23:37,450 --> 03:23:38,030
This is John C.

5762
03:23:38,070 --> 03:23:39,270
Dvorak's tip of the day.

5763
03:23:50,270 --> 03:23:53,810
Today's show is for free photo editing software.

5764
03:23:54,590 --> 03:23:55,070
GIMP.

5765
03:23:55,150 --> 03:23:56,170
It's the GIMP.

5766
03:23:56,750 --> 03:23:58,370
To compete with GIMP.

5767
03:23:58,450 --> 03:23:59,170
Oh, okay.

5768
03:23:59,370 --> 03:24:01,230
Because GIMP is actually quite hard to use.

5769
03:24:01,310 --> 03:24:03,610
It's very powerful, but very difficult to use.

5770
03:24:03,610 --> 03:24:05,650
So I'm having fun with this other one.

5771
03:24:05,770 --> 03:24:06,630
And there's a bunch...

5772
03:24:06,630 --> 03:24:08,130
It turns out there'd be tons of them

5773
03:24:08,130 --> 03:24:08,490
out there.

5774
03:24:08,630 --> 03:24:10,310
Not tons, but maybe a dozen.

5775
03:24:11,050 --> 03:24:13,890
Very usable, free products.

5776
03:24:14,110 --> 03:24:16,270
Are you going to alternative.net?

5777
03:24:17,050 --> 03:24:19,350
No, I dug this one up through some

5778
03:24:19,350 --> 03:24:20,650
more deeper research.

5779
03:24:20,950 --> 03:24:21,270
Okay.

5780
03:24:21,850 --> 03:24:23,210
This is Photo Demon.

5781
03:24:23,710 --> 03:24:24,550
Photo Demon?

5782
03:24:25,110 --> 03:24:25,710
Photo Demon.

5783
03:24:25,830 --> 03:24:27,590
And I would recommend people get it and

5784
03:24:27,590 --> 03:24:28,030
play with it.

5785
03:24:28,070 --> 03:24:29,690
And you get it at Photo...

5786
03:24:29,690 --> 03:24:32,890
Don't get it anywhere, but the main...

5787
03:24:32,890 --> 03:24:35,450
I went to GitHub to find their real

5788
03:24:35,450 --> 03:24:40,070
source of it, which is photodemon.org and

5789
03:24:40,070 --> 03:24:41,210
download it from there.

5790
03:24:41,410 --> 03:24:42,550
Because everyone else is...

5791
03:24:42,550 --> 03:24:44,510
You know, you can't trust these download sites

5792
03:24:44,510 --> 03:24:44,910
anymore.

5793
03:24:45,230 --> 03:24:46,690
No, that was a previous tip.

5794
03:24:47,590 --> 03:24:49,150
Spyware with their downloads.

5795
03:24:49,410 --> 03:24:51,690
But photodemon.org, it's usually...

5796
03:24:51,690 --> 03:24:53,230
I think they're on version 12.

5797
03:24:54,130 --> 03:24:56,210
And I would recommend playing with it if

5798
03:24:56,210 --> 03:24:57,810
you like to play with some photo editing

5799
03:24:57,810 --> 03:24:58,250
stuff.

5800
03:24:58,550 --> 03:24:59,550
Oh, that's a pretty good tip.

5801
03:24:59,630 --> 03:25:01,630
I might even follow that tip myself.

5802
03:25:01,970 --> 03:25:03,030
Yeah, give it a shot.

5803
03:25:03,170 --> 03:25:03,950
I'll give it a shot.

5804
03:25:04,050 --> 03:25:04,670
There you go, everybody.

5805
03:25:04,810 --> 03:25:05,530
That is your John C.

5806
03:25:05,590 --> 03:25:06,370
DuBois tip of the day.

5807
03:25:06,490 --> 03:25:09,130
tipoftheday.net, noagendafun.com.

5808
03:25:19,430 --> 03:25:21,490
Thank you very much, Dana Brunetti, for creating

5809
03:25:21,490 --> 03:25:21,750
that.

5810
03:25:21,890 --> 03:25:23,210
What would we do without you?

5811
03:25:23,870 --> 03:25:24,770
What would we do?

5812
03:25:25,530 --> 03:25:28,090
Hey, that's it for your No Agenda Show.

5813
03:25:28,170 --> 03:25:29,670
We are happy to present it to you.

5814
03:25:29,710 --> 03:25:31,070
We do this as a public service.

5815
03:25:31,070 --> 03:25:32,510
We're value for value.

5816
03:25:32,670 --> 03:25:34,210
So if you get anything out of this,

5817
03:25:34,250 --> 03:25:35,450
send us some value back.

5818
03:25:35,830 --> 03:25:36,750
Time, talent, treasure.

5819
03:25:38,410 --> 03:25:40,110
noagendadonations.com is where you can do that.

5820
03:25:40,890 --> 03:25:42,870
We've got end of show mixes.

5821
03:25:43,110 --> 03:25:43,890
I've got a...

5822
03:25:43,890 --> 03:25:45,390
I pulled up an oldie which is from

5823
03:25:45,390 --> 03:25:46,470
2016.

5824
03:25:46,990 --> 03:25:49,150
It's a compilation which just runs for about

5825
03:25:49,150 --> 03:25:49,750
a minute 20.

5826
03:25:49,850 --> 03:25:50,390
I think you'll like it.

5827
03:25:50,410 --> 03:25:54,970
We got Brian Longenecker, classic.

5828
03:25:54,970 --> 03:26:01,390
And L.O.B.G., another Vladimir Putin

5829
03:26:01,390 --> 03:26:01,930
classic.

5830
03:26:02,550 --> 03:26:04,070
What I'm trying to say here is these

5831
03:26:04,070 --> 03:26:05,490
are old mixes.

5832
03:26:05,690 --> 03:26:06,970
We need some new mixes, people.

5833
03:26:07,170 --> 03:26:07,890
Send us new mixes.

5834
03:26:09,530 --> 03:26:10,870
Coming to you from the heart of the

5835
03:26:10,870 --> 03:26:14,470
Texas hill country here in picturesque Fredericksburg in

5836
03:26:14,470 --> 03:26:15,270
the morning, everybody.

5837
03:26:15,470 --> 03:26:16,390
I'm Adam Curry.

5838
03:26:16,630 --> 03:26:19,110
And from Northern Silicon Valley, which is just

5839
03:26:19,110 --> 03:26:21,890
as picturesque in some way or other, I'm

5840
03:26:21,890 --> 03:26:22,310
John C.

5841
03:26:22,390 --> 03:26:22,610
DuBois.

5842
03:26:22,730 --> 03:26:24,390
Yeah, except we don't have any homeless.

5843
03:26:24,970 --> 03:26:25,530
Here.

5844
03:26:25,870 --> 03:26:28,810
We dropped them off at the Kerr County

5845
03:26:28,810 --> 03:26:29,690
line.

5846
03:26:29,810 --> 03:26:30,610
That's what we do with them.

5847
03:26:30,930 --> 03:26:32,870
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream,

5848
03:26:33,070 --> 03:26:35,970
we've got too many go mugs from a

5849
03:26:35,970 --> 03:26:39,690
walk through the mind until next Sunday, everybody.

5850
03:26:39,870 --> 03:26:40,970
Adios, mofos.

5851
03:26:41,270 --> 03:26:42,010
Hui, hui.

5852
03:26:42,610 --> 03:26:43,610
And such.

5853
03:26:44,970 --> 03:26:50,710
noagendadonations.com 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

5854
03:26:54,590 --> 03:26:56,890
Victoria Kagan, Noodleman.

5855
03:26:57,030 --> 03:27:04,570
Yeah, let's get social.

5856
03:27:17,310 --> 03:27:19,310
Give it up.

5857
03:27:19,430 --> 03:27:20,250
Mary McCoy.

5858
03:27:21,050 --> 03:27:22,870
Yes, the beaches are back open.

5859
03:27:26,330 --> 03:27:29,350
Isis uses social media like a job fair.

5860
03:27:29,850 --> 03:27:31,970
Trouble soul, come to the caliphate.

5861
03:27:32,330 --> 03:27:33,610
Come to the caliphate.

5862
03:27:34,050 --> 03:27:36,870
Because we and our allies sent 600 tons

5863
03:27:36,870 --> 03:27:38,570
of weapons into that civil war.

5864
03:27:38,710 --> 03:27:41,390
You have people, mosques being vandalized, kids being

5865
03:27:41,390 --> 03:27:43,150
executed, being executed.

5866
03:27:43,530 --> 03:27:45,070
Kids will be back one day to fight

5867
03:27:45,070 --> 03:27:45,790
our own weapons.

5868
03:27:46,230 --> 03:27:48,470
They were known as normal teenagers.

5869
03:27:48,470 --> 03:27:50,390
They punish us for doing things that we

5870
03:27:50,390 --> 03:27:51,070
take for granted.

5871
03:27:51,390 --> 03:27:52,470
Normal teenagers.

5872
03:27:52,890 --> 03:27:55,170
We are killing them and we will continue

5873
03:27:55,170 --> 03:27:57,470
killing ISIS terrorists that pose a threat to

5874
03:27:57,470 --> 03:27:57,630
us.

5875
03:27:57,750 --> 03:27:58,590
We're very good at that.

5876
03:27:58,970 --> 03:27:59,550
Good at that.

5877
03:28:01,830 --> 03:28:04,370
Jamila is it funny or is it important?

5878
03:28:04,650 --> 03:28:07,290
We are finally going to lead again.

5879
03:28:08,190 --> 03:28:09,490
You see what's happening.

5880
03:28:09,650 --> 03:28:11,450
You see the rockets going up left and

5881
03:28:11,450 --> 03:28:11,650
right.

5882
03:28:11,730 --> 03:28:13,310
You haven't seen that for a long time.

5883
03:28:14,030 --> 03:28:15,830
Very soon we're going to Mars.

5884
03:28:16,390 --> 03:28:18,330
You wouldn't have been going Mars if my

5885
03:28:18,330 --> 03:28:19,290
opponent won.

5886
03:28:19,750 --> 03:28:20,910
That I can tell you.

5887
03:28:45,830 --> 03:28:46,750
Space Force.

5888
03:28:50,330 --> 03:28:51,630
With Space Force.

5889
03:28:54,130 --> 03:28:56,130
Air power.

5890
03:28:57,330 --> 03:28:58,370
Space power.

5891
03:28:59,070 --> 03:29:03,970
We are finally going to lead again.

5892
03:29:05,430 --> 03:29:07,770
We are finally going to.

5893
03:29:08,390 --> 03:29:11,870
We are finally going to lead again.

5894
03:29:12,910 --> 03:29:14,150
You see what's happening.

5895
03:29:14,750 --> 03:29:16,750
You see the rockets going up left and

5896
03:29:16,750 --> 03:29:16,970
right.

5897
03:29:17,210 --> 03:29:18,690
You haven't seen that for a long time.

5898
03:29:19,550 --> 03:29:21,290
Very soon we're going to Mars.

5899
03:29:22,870 --> 03:29:23,970
Space Force.

5900
03:29:31,770 --> 03:29:32,910
Space Force.

5901
03:29:40,670 --> 03:29:41,870
Air power.

5902
03:29:42,230 --> 03:29:43,130
Space power.

5903
03:29:43,990 --> 03:29:44,490
Force.

5904
03:29:44,930 --> 03:29:45,850
Space Force.

5905
03:30:13,610 --> 03:30:14,390
Space power.

5906
03:30:29,230 --> 03:30:30,850
We're done now go home.
