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Out of office, eh, eh, eh, eh.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, December 4th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1822.

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This is no agenda.

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Placing crazy bets and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas Hill Country here in

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FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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Man from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating

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the fact that they caught the Mad Bomber.

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I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.

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In the morning.

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Well, here's what caught my eye as the

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quad screen lit up with, we've got the

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bomber.

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We were told by Glenn Beck's, uh, forensic,

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uh, analyst that it was a woman.

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Heh.

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Heh.

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And they were 99% sure.

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Well, I guess somebody was wrong.

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Yeah, how about that?

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Who is this guy?

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Some guy lives in a really fancy house.

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Really?

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Yeah, the house is dynamite.

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Oh, well, it'll be up for sale soon.

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Cheap.

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Well, I mean, he might be bored or

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he might be, who knows?

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They haven't explained it.

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Yeah.

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So weird.

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I mean, they're all patented.

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They had this huge press conference.

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They're all patting each other on the back

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and then condemning the old Biden administration.

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Oh, yeah.

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They knew.

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They knew.

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They didn't do anything.

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They sat on this cold case.

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They didn't do anything.

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They sat on it.

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Yeah, I love seeing Judge Jeanine speak in

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that official role is just wrong.

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There's something wrong about it.

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You know, it's the, the, the worlds of

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show business and politics when they collide like

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that.

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It's odd.

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Yeah, well, Bongino is up there to yak

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it away.

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Oh, really?

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He got cut off.

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Oh, by whom?

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No, it just went, screen went blank.

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They had a glitch.

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Oh, what was he saying?

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Code Bongino?

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I don't know what he was doing.

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The same thing as Patel.

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Everybody, this is, yeah, you know, we're great.

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It took forever.

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And we had a big team and we

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worked 24 seven.

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Yeah.

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33 hours nonstop.

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We had millions and millions of detailed pieces

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of evidence that we had to go through

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and analyze that the other guys are too

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lazy to do it.

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Those guys.

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Fresh eyes.

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Cliche from every movie you've ever seen.

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Fresh eyes.

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I like that.

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That's good.

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Fresh eyes is fantastic.

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Well, that, of course, is not.

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I mean, they're real busy, obviously, because now

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that we've uncovered this, who knows what will

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happen with the Epstein files?

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We're all waiting with bated breath.

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But wait, we have new pictures.

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House Democrats released more than 150 still images

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and more than a dozen short videos of

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the Caribbean estate of late convicted sex offender

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Jeffrey Epstein.

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The images do not show any people at

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the lavish home.

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Private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

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They do show the compound's pool area, several

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bedrooms and bathrooms in a room that mysteriously

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contains a dental chair.

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And you saw the walls are adorned with

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masks of men's faces.

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Congress is waiting for the Justice Department to

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release the right so-called Epstein files.

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All of them.

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Justice must do so within 30 days of

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President Trump signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act

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on November 19th.

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This was great.

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I love this picture of the dentist chair

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with these protruding masks on the wall is

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just what is what in the world is

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that is going on there?

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And how can we know of any pictures

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of Zorro Ranch?

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That's that's the place where I was probably

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more there.

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That's a question.

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One of the unanswered questions.

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The other one to me is, hey, hey,

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they had a room is full of videotapes.

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What?

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No one wants to talk about.

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Hold on a second, because Ro Khanna, Ro

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Khanna was on with the Poopmeister, Anderson Pooper,

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and he has some stuff to say about

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it.

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Tonight, we're getting an inside look at some

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of the rooms in Jeffrey Epstein's notorious home

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on a private Caribbean island where underage girls

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and young women were trafficked and sexually abused.

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Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released these

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photos as well as videos they say have

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not been made public before.

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One of the images shows what appears to

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be a dentist chair in one room with

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masks on a wall.

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Another shows a blackboard with some words scribbled

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on it.

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Words.

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Deception.

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Words.

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Power deception.

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There's also this video showing the manicured grounds

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of this state with pantries and winding paths

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and a large pool.

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The Department of Justice has 16 days before

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they have to release documents related to its

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investigation.

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I wonder, is the Democrat the listing agent

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for this island or something?

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Because it really is like a sales video.

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Like, oh, that kitchen looks nice.

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Yeah, I can do without the crazy dentist

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chair.

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But everything else is pretty cool.

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Epstein is required by the bill that Congress

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passed and President Trump recently signed into law.

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Now, we learned today that Epstein's accomplice, Ghislaine

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Maxwell, is planning to file a petition asking

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a judge to release her from prison.

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She's serving a 20-year sentence for her

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sex trafficking conviction.

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Joining us tonight, California Congressman Ro Khanna, member

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of the Oversight Committee, who along with Republican

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Congressman Thomas Massie led the fight to pass

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that bill, forcing the release of the Epstein

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file.

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So, Congressman, I mean, do these video images

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fill in any blanks for you, raising a

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new question?

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I'm wondering what stands out to you.

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What stands out is the dentist chair.

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Well, the dentist chair was concerning to me.

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Obviously, we need to know the facts.

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But what we need to know is, were

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underage girls abused on that chair?

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What happened there?

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What we do know from the survivors is

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their fillings.

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Maybe they had a dentist on board, Dan.

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It was a part of the deal.

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You get free cleaning.

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Hey, come to the island.

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We got a dentist on staff.

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We get free cleaning.

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We can bleach the teeth a little bit.

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You look a little better.

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You can change your jaw.

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What we need to know is, were underage

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girls abused on that chair?

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What happened there?

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What we do know from the survivors is

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there are many such photos in the Epstein

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files.

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We know that from the survivors and their

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lawyers.

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All of those need to be released.

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Every file, every photo, every interview memorandum, while

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protecting victims, need to be released by federal

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law in the next 16 days.

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Hey, wait, wait, wait.

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Why didn't he mention the videotapes?

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No, no, no, no.

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Actually, this interview goes in an unexpected direction.

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I got two more clips here.

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Do you expect, I mean, do you know

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what to expect in 16 days in terms

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of what level of redaction there's going to

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be?

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Have you gotten any word from the Department

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of Justice how they are handling this?

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Congressman Massey and I have requested to meet

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with Attorney General Pam Bondi or someone on

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her team handling the investigation.

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So far, we have not heard back.

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We're going to continue to pursue it.

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Of course, Congressman Massey is on the Judiciary

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So Pam Bondi will be coming before that

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committee.

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But now every person at the Justice Department

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who does not cooperate in releasing these files

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would be violating federal law.

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They would be subject to federal penalties.

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So we expect that there will be a

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release and we're going to continue to fight

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to make sure that it is transparent and

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complete.

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Your committee says it's also received about 5

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,000 documents in response to subpoenas to JPMorgan,

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Deutsche Bank, for Epstein's financial records.

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I don't know how much of those the

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committee's been able to review, but do they,

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I mean, what do you hope to find

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in those documents?

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Does anything connect any dots for you?

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Well, the committee is going through that.

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There are a lot of documents.

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But the big question is, how is Jeffrey

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Epstein, a former school teacher, worth a half

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a billion dollars?

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Who is funding him?

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Why are people giving him this money?

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And what was he doing for this money?

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Those are things that we're going to get

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from these documents.

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As you know, Senator Wyden has been investigating

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this in the Senate for over a year.

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That is going to be critical to understanding

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who all was involved.

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That took a sudden change, a turn all

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of a sudden.

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We went from victims to who was funding

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him.

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What's the money flows?

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We're looking into that.

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That should get some people rather worried, particularly

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in the banking sector.

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How about Chase?

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Jamie Dimon.

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Jamie Dimon, Chase.

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By the way, thank you, trolls.

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Jeffrey Epstein's last known girlfriend, Karina Shuliak, was

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a dentist from Belarus whom he reportedly paid

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to put through dental school.

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She's listed as a dentistry practitioner in St.

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Thomas, with over five years of experience in

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the field.

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Shuliak was dating Epstein at the time of

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his arrest and death in 2019.

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He made his final phone call to her

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from jail.

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They had a dentist chair there because his

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girlfriend was a dentist.

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Oh, no.

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Can nobody do Google searches anymore?

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That's funny.

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That seems like an obvious thing to look

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up.

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Well, somebody in the chat room or the

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troll room could do them.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's why we're the best podcast in

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the universe.

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Yeah, it's instant.

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Honestly, I didn't even think to look up

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it myself.

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But all right.

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Well, that's nuts.

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Whoa.

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Was anyone abused?

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Well, I don't know.

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If it was a bad root canal, maybe.

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Maybe.

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Kohana goes on here.

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We've talked about Ghislaine Maxwell.

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Kohana.

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Planning to ask a judge.

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That's his new name.

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Yeah, Kohana.

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Kohana.

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Thank you for catching that.

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Kohana, yes.

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Her from prison according to a new court

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filing.

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What do you think the chances of that

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actually are given the unknowns of, you know,

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the interview she had with President Trump's former

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personal attorney, who's now a high level of

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the Department of Justice?

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What do you think is going to happen

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there?

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It would be a slap in the face

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of the survivors.

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Anderson, as you imagine, I've gotten to know

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some of these survivors.

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I've spent time with them.

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When you mention Ghislaine Maxwell's name, they have

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a trauma and an anger.

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This is someone who abused them.

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This is someone who facilitated their abuse.

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The fact that we're even discussing any leniency

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for her or letting her out of jail

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is frankly disgusting.

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And the survivors themselves get so emotional when

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people bring up Maxwell.

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A House Oversight Committee spokesperson today earlier today

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criticized Democrats on the committee, your committee, for

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releasing these videos and photos saying, quote, it

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is odd that Democrats are once again releasing

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selective information as they have done before.

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I'm wondering what your response to that is.

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Let's release it all.

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That's what Massey and my bill does.

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If you don't think there's anything there, get

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the files out.

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If you think it's selective, get the files

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out.

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Let's finally get the information out there, most

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importantly, because of the thousand survivors.

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And that's what they want.

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And so we end this kind of blame

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game and name calling.

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Let's just get it all out there in

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the next 16 days.

352
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Yeah, blame game, name calling, get it.

353
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You know, name calling.

354
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I don't know.

355
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It wouldn't surprise me.

356
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What's he talking about?

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Kohana's office rocker.

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I it wouldn't surprise me if in the

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emails and the documents we literally find an

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email that says, hey, when you're down here,

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you know, my girlfriend can can clean your

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teeth.

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It wouldn't surprise me.

364
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You make a joke about it, but.

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I mean, really rich people have weird things

366
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in their homes.

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It's true.

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You know what I mean?

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It's like, yeah, I used to go into

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one time I was in Bill Ziff's office

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and upstairs in some of the famous Ziff

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Davis publishing empire.

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Yes.

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And he he had an office in a

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penthouse someplace.

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What this is not the office at the

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at the magazine was his house office.

378
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This sounds like another story I have never

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heard before.

380
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Well, it's not much to it.

381
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But all I remember is that we're having

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this conversation and all of a sudden his

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hair cutter comes in.

384
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Yeah.

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And I'm just chatting with him.

386
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And next thing you know, he's got a

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barber's thing around his neck and the guy's

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trimming his hair in front of me.

389
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I remember once being at this really well.

390
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This was when I was very young, doing

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the pirate radio stuff.

392
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And I had to go to one of

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our big sponsors.

394
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And this was clearly some kind of drug

395
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gangster, some narco gangster.

396
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He had this huge house in Amsterdam.

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It consisted of half of a canal block.

398
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And, you know, and I think I had

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to pick up some videotapes.

400
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I don't remember exactly what it was.

401
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He had Western House and Western House.

402
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Then I forget the other name.

403
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He had like stores, boutique stores, probably all

404
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money laundering.

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And all of a sudden I see a

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member of parliament on a 10-speed bike

407
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just driving through the house.

408
00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,480
You know, it's like that kind of stuff

409
00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,980
is normal for these jimokes.

410
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So, you know, in spandex.

411
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Was he wearing clothes?

412
00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:19,100
He had one of those spandex riding outfits

413
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on.

414
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I'm like, what are you doing?

415
00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,780
Yeah, just riding around.

416
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Okay.

417
00:13:23,060 --> 00:13:25,520
Anyway, we have to with this, this dental

418
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chair.

419
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This is it, people.

420
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I also would have wished that Virginia was

421
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alive today.

422
00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,880
I would have asked her all about that

423
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dentist chair and what that meant and what

424
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that was.

425
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Because to me, there's something sadistic about it.

426
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It's kind of crazy.

427
00:13:36,340 --> 00:13:37,380
I mean, it's bizarre to have a dentist

428
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chair in somebody's private.

429
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I mean, seriously, this is one of the

430
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easiest things to look up.

431
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,240
The dentist, there's something dark about it.

432
00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,860
Wait, hold on a second.

433
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Hold on a second.

434
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I have to stick up for my dental

435
00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,040
professionals here.

436
00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:52,640
Hold on a second.

437
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Sorry to have a dentist chair in somebody's

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private.

439
00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:55,580
Also, just no one wants to go to

440
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the dentist.

441
00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:57,720
There's something dark about it.

442
00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:00,180
No, I love going to the dentist.

443
00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,300
That's, you know, I just want to say

444
00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:04,840
something for our dental professionals.

445
00:14:05,420 --> 00:14:07,480
You guys really get the short end of

446
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:07,880
the stick.

447
00:14:08,260 --> 00:14:10,700
I love getting my teeth cleaned.

448
00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:12,040
I love hanging out there.

449
00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:12,880
I love the dentist.

450
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,980
I love it.

451
00:14:14,140 --> 00:14:16,520
Hanging out, hang out at the dentist.

452
00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:18,640
Hey, what are you doing this afternoon?

453
00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,920
I'm going to go over to the dental

454
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,080
office and hang out because it's so much

455
00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:22,580
fun.

456
00:14:22,860 --> 00:14:23,920
I'm serious, though.

457
00:14:24,020 --> 00:14:25,700
I was like, what are you doing?

458
00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,040
What's that instrument for?

459
00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:28,360
How does that thing work?

460
00:14:28,460 --> 00:14:30,280
You know, once you once you should have

461
00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,160
become a dentist.

462
00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,520
I think this is what we're doing.

463
00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:34,000
You're trying to you're trying.

464
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,340
This is a cry for help.

465
00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:35,940
It is.

466
00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:38,000
Help me to become a dentist.

467
00:14:38,260 --> 00:14:39,360
It's my late age.

468
00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:40,540
Can I make the switch?

469
00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,560
Can I still do it?

470
00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:43,180
Podcast a dentist.

471
00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:45,660
There's a leeriness to it all.

472
00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:45,940
There is.

473
00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,060
It's almost like you're walking through a crime

474
00:14:49,060 --> 00:14:49,400
scene.

475
00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:51,840
I mean, what kind of word is leeriness?

476
00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:55,020
There's a leeriness to it.

477
00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:56,560
That's an interesting question.

478
00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,140
What do you think?

479
00:14:58,300 --> 00:14:58,700
Is that a word?

480
00:14:58,780 --> 00:14:59,480
Is that a word?

481
00:14:59,660 --> 00:15:00,060
Leeriness?

482
00:15:00,620 --> 00:15:02,460
Well, should we ask the robot to make

483
00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:02,800
sure?

484
00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:03,940
Yeah, ask the robot.

485
00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,040
Hey, robot, what tell me about the word

486
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:08,660
leeriness.

487
00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,040
Is that a real word?

488
00:15:13,550 --> 00:15:14,950
Leeriness is a real word.

489
00:15:14,950 --> 00:15:18,950
It means awareness, caution or a state of

490
00:15:18,950 --> 00:15:19,550
being leery.

491
00:15:19,850 --> 00:15:22,570
Like if you're suspicious about something and not

492
00:15:22,570 --> 00:15:23,330
quite trusting.

493
00:15:24,490 --> 00:15:26,830
All right, I guess it's in there.

494
00:15:26,950 --> 00:15:27,370
I was wrong.

495
00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:29,150
Yeah, well, of course, we have to trust

496
00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:29,450
AI.

497
00:15:29,850 --> 00:15:32,150
I mean, our overlord is never wrong.

498
00:15:32,210 --> 00:15:32,510
Never.

499
00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:35,470
The masks on the wall.

500
00:15:35,850 --> 00:15:37,730
There's a leeriness to it all.

501
00:15:37,790 --> 00:15:38,150
There's it.

502
00:15:38,410 --> 00:15:38,950
There is.

503
00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:41,210
It's almost like you're walking through a crime

504
00:15:41,210 --> 00:15:41,490
scene.

505
00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:43,010
I mean, you are walking through a crime

506
00:15:43,010 --> 00:15:43,210
scene.

507
00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:44,890
I saw the pictures.

508
00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:46,050
I saw the pictures.

509
00:15:46,430 --> 00:15:48,310
It does not look like a crime scene.

510
00:15:48,430 --> 00:15:51,710
It looks like a real estate portfolio is

511
00:15:51,710 --> 00:15:52,450
what it looks like.

512
00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:52,950
Well, OK.

513
00:15:53,890 --> 00:15:55,030
Dressing it up a bit here.

514
00:15:55,250 --> 00:15:55,970
A crime scene.

515
00:15:56,050 --> 00:15:57,490
I mean, you are walking through a crime

516
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scene.

517
00:15:57,730 --> 00:15:59,810
When I see the rooms, they're kind of

518
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hotel type rooms.

519
00:16:02,070 --> 00:16:02,930
Could it be for anybody?

520
00:16:03,150 --> 00:16:03,490
Scary!

521
00:16:03,810 --> 00:16:04,610
It has just darker.

522
00:16:04,610 --> 00:16:06,910
Yeah, I mean, there's kind of no personality

523
00:16:06,910 --> 00:16:10,290
other than sort of creepiness to these things.

524
00:16:10,450 --> 00:16:11,650
Otherwise, there is this sort of.

525
00:16:11,650 --> 00:16:14,110
I'd love to see Vanderbilt's home.

526
00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:17,290
Anonymity to it of sort of anonymous hotel

527
00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:18,370
rooms somewhere in the Caribbean.

528
00:16:18,590 --> 00:16:18,950
Exactly.

529
00:16:19,930 --> 00:16:22,170
You could even see from the picture of

530
00:16:22,170 --> 00:16:23,970
the cameras.

531
00:16:24,190 --> 00:16:25,250
I mean, there are cameras everywhere.

532
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:26,550
They're being recorded.

533
00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:28,550
You could say for security, but also.

534
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:34,130
Survivors that they believe that they were always

535
00:16:34,130 --> 00:16:35,350
being recorded there.

536
00:16:35,790 --> 00:16:37,830
Even the statues are weird, like the one

537
00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:38,350
by the pool.

538
00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:39,930
And I think it's important for us to

539
00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:41,490
have this documentary evidence.

540
00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:43,390
Especially when you have the president of the

541
00:16:43,390 --> 00:16:43,890
United States saying this is a hoax.

542
00:16:43,890 --> 00:16:44,550
There's a stall.

543
00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:45,830
This is going nowhere.

544
00:16:46,090 --> 00:16:47,090
It's nine more seconds.

545
00:16:47,410 --> 00:16:49,050
They're yak, yak, yak, yaking about nothing.

546
00:16:49,410 --> 00:16:51,010
Folks, seeing is believing.

547
00:16:51,570 --> 00:16:52,730
See the place where he lived.

548
00:16:52,930 --> 00:16:54,550
And this isn't all just a wealth porn.

549
00:16:54,810 --> 00:16:55,330
This is a very perverted.

550
00:16:56,210 --> 00:16:57,530
Drop cliches on it.

551
00:16:58,390 --> 00:16:59,430
I'm dumping this one.

552
00:16:59,430 --> 00:17:01,170
Hey, picture's worth a thousand words.

553
00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:02,070
That's right.

554
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:05,130
Seeing is believing.

555
00:17:05,609 --> 00:17:06,369
That's right.

556
00:17:07,369 --> 00:17:08,069
Oh, man.

557
00:17:08,190 --> 00:17:08,770
That's good.

558
00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:10,930
It gives everybody something to talk about.

559
00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:12,550
That's always fun.

560
00:17:12,690 --> 00:17:14,930
I mean, what is the point of the

561
00:17:14,930 --> 00:17:16,550
Democrats releasing these photos?

562
00:17:16,770 --> 00:17:18,510
What is the actual point?

563
00:17:19,369 --> 00:17:22,250
Is it to drive everyone's attention back?

564
00:17:23,010 --> 00:17:24,869
I mean, it doesn't make a lot of

565
00:17:24,869 --> 00:17:27,890
sense midterm wise, which everything should be about.

566
00:17:28,450 --> 00:17:28,950
Everything.

567
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:31,230
You know?

568
00:17:32,730 --> 00:17:34,790
So yeah, I think you're right.

569
00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:36,610
There's everything should be about the midterms.

570
00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:39,670
And they somehow think they're going to.

571
00:17:39,670 --> 00:17:42,370
I don't know what they're thinking, but they

572
00:17:42,370 --> 00:17:44,790
seem to think there's a benefit to this.

573
00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:46,450
They're really a lost cause.

574
00:17:46,510 --> 00:17:47,090
These guys.

575
00:17:47,610 --> 00:17:50,390
I think they will take the midterms, but

576
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:53,010
it's a kind of baffling that they can

577
00:17:53,010 --> 00:17:54,710
even get anybody to vote for him.

578
00:17:55,890 --> 00:17:57,510
I mean, everything.

579
00:17:57,790 --> 00:18:01,170
Although this double tap war crime.

580
00:18:01,370 --> 00:18:01,950
This is my favorite.

581
00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:03,330
This is the best story ever.

582
00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:08,810
But the American military has done atrocious things

583
00:18:08,810 --> 00:18:12,390
for our freedom, for their democracy all over

584
00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:12,910
the world.

585
00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:16,110
But now we're blowing up some drug boats

586
00:18:16,110 --> 00:18:17,990
and everyone loses their ever loving mind.

587
00:18:18,570 --> 00:18:21,910
And I think that Matt Taibbi and Walter.

588
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:24,510
Kern.

589
00:18:25,090 --> 00:18:25,290
Thank you.

590
00:18:25,610 --> 00:18:28,170
Walter Kern are correct that there's probably money

591
00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:29,350
on those boats, too.

592
00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:31,230
Although we don't see it like, you know,

593
00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:32,350
like fluttering dollars.

594
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:33,430
That would be kind of cool if you

595
00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:33,910
saw that.

596
00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:38,190
But this thing seems like a lot of

597
00:18:38,190 --> 00:18:39,550
people are very, very worried.

598
00:18:39,790 --> 00:18:41,050
I don't believe that.

599
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:42,030
I disagree.

600
00:18:42,490 --> 00:18:43,750
You know, why would there be money on

601
00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:44,030
the boat?

602
00:18:44,110 --> 00:18:47,550
You exchange the drugs for the money.

603
00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:49,230
You don't carry the money on the boat

604
00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:50,190
with the drugs.

605
00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:51,730
And then you put the money straight into

606
00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:52,750
the bank in the Caribbean.

607
00:18:53,890 --> 00:18:54,170
Yeah.

608
00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:57,190
And, you know, we discussed when the 2008.

609
00:18:58,010 --> 00:18:58,390
Great.

610
00:18:58,630 --> 00:19:00,090
The what was it?

611
00:19:00,130 --> 00:19:00,730
What they call it?

612
00:19:00,730 --> 00:19:03,090
The Great Recession.

613
00:19:03,390 --> 00:19:04,210
The Great Recession.

614
00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:09,150
If we didn't have drug money flowing, the

615
00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:10,330
whole world would have crumbled.

616
00:19:11,390 --> 00:19:15,210
The drug money flow is so important.

617
00:19:15,370 --> 00:19:17,530
In fact, we have a this is how

618
00:19:17,530 --> 00:19:18,450
far I'll go with this.

619
00:19:18,910 --> 00:19:21,190
We have I think they're talking about a

620
00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:22,970
liquidity crisis on Wall Street.

621
00:19:23,470 --> 00:19:25,470
I think that means there's not enough money.

622
00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:27,550
And there's all kinds of reasons for it.

623
00:19:27,570 --> 00:19:28,710
We had a government shutdown.

624
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:31,670
But could it also be that all this

625
00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:34,010
money is all the value is being blown

626
00:19:34,010 --> 00:19:37,130
up in the ocean and that, oh, man,

627
00:19:37,150 --> 00:19:38,570
we don't have any money coming in?

628
00:19:39,290 --> 00:19:41,070
Do you think that's possible that it's that

629
00:19:41,070 --> 00:19:41,410
much?

630
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:42,090
Because I do.

631
00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:44,950
Well, I don't know about that because it's

632
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:46,470
coming in from every which way and all

633
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:47,090
over the place.

634
00:19:47,150 --> 00:19:48,810
It's only accounting for some of it, maybe

635
00:19:48,810 --> 00:19:50,050
10 percent at the most.

636
00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:50,670
I don't know.

637
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:53,130
Trump says it's 90 percent.

638
00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:56,670
Well, Trump's Trump exaggerating.

639
00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,290
Let me write this one down.

640
00:19:58,410 --> 00:19:58,890
Let's listen.

641
00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:01,870
You released video of that first boat strike

642
00:20:01,870 --> 00:20:04,430
on September 2nd, but not the second video.

643
00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:07,950
Will you release video of that strike so

644
00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:09,730
that the American people can see for themselves?

645
00:20:09,890 --> 00:20:11,250
I don't know what they have, but whatever

646
00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:12,550
they have, we certainly released.

647
00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:13,130
No problem.

648
00:20:13,410 --> 00:20:15,730
We need to start saying that we want

649
00:20:15,730 --> 00:20:17,730
to know about the dentist chair because the

650
00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:19,930
American people have a right to know about

651
00:20:19,930 --> 00:20:20,830
the dentist chair.

652
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:23,850
The American people who pay their taxes have

653
00:20:23,850 --> 00:20:24,910
an absolute right.

654
00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:26,050
I am a journalist.

655
00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,190
We stopped every boat.

656
00:20:28,330 --> 00:20:29,290
We knock out.

657
00:20:29,550 --> 00:20:32,070
We save 25,000 American lives.

658
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:35,210
I think we've now saved or created 300

659
00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:37,250
million people with the amount of boats we've

660
00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:38,050
blown out of the water.

661
00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:40,870
But OK, but 20 boats now or more.

662
00:20:41,030 --> 00:20:41,690
So that's fine.

663
00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:43,410
20 times.

664
00:20:47,050 --> 00:20:48,730
So it's half a million.

665
00:20:49,570 --> 00:20:50,230
Am I saying that right?

666
00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:50,450
Yeah.

667
00:20:50,790 --> 00:20:52,690
Half a half a million lives have been

668
00:20:52,690 --> 00:20:53,610
saved or created.

669
00:20:53,790 --> 00:20:54,910
Mr. President, good work.

670
00:20:54,910 --> 00:20:57,090
And if you look at our if you

671
00:20:57,090 --> 00:21:00,430
look at our numbers, the drugs coming in

672
00:21:00,430 --> 00:21:03,230
through C are down 91 percent.

673
00:21:03,810 --> 00:21:05,550
I'm surprised it's 9 percent.

674
00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:08,670
Do you know who's doing the 9 percent?

675
00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:10,290
But it's down 91.

676
00:21:10,430 --> 00:21:11,710
And we're going to start very soon on

677
00:21:11,710 --> 00:21:12,010
land.

678
00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:13,150
And I'm sure you're thrilled to hear.

679
00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:17,030
If it is found that survivors were actually

680
00:21:17,030 --> 00:21:19,770
killed while clinging on to that boat, should

681
00:21:19,770 --> 00:21:22,490
Secretary have said Admiral Bradley or others be

682
00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:22,850
punished?

683
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:24,670
I think you're going to find that this

684
00:21:24,670 --> 00:21:27,570
is war, that these people were killing our

685
00:21:27,570 --> 00:21:29,270
people by the millions.

686
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:31,250
Actually, if you look over a few years,

687
00:21:31,610 --> 00:21:33,430
I think last year we lost close to

688
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:35,270
300000 people were killed.

689
00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:37,570
That's not mentioning all the families.

690
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:39,630
Have you seen what happens with the families

691
00:21:39,630 --> 00:21:41,810
of not only people killed, but people that

692
00:21:41,810 --> 00:21:43,810
are trying to get their son or their

693
00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:46,290
daughter off of this poison that they've been

694
00:21:46,290 --> 00:21:46,570
fed?

695
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:48,410
I think you're going to find that there's

696
00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:52,390
a very receptive ear to doing exactly what

697
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:53,810
they're doing, taking out those boats.

698
00:21:54,030 --> 00:21:55,910
And very soon we're going to start doing

699
00:21:55,910 --> 00:21:57,830
it on land, too, because we know every

700
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:58,130
route.

701
00:21:58,350 --> 00:21:59,090
We know every house.

702
00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:01,610
We know where they manufacture this crap.

703
00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:03,710
We know where they put it all together.

704
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:05,710
And I think you're going to see it

705
00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:06,970
very soon on land also.

706
00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:09,470
Ah, now I see.

707
00:22:10,150 --> 00:22:13,410
How about he's going to take out these

708
00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:17,890
drug manufacturing operations with airstrikes, not boots on

709
00:22:17,890 --> 00:22:19,150
the ground, but airstrikes?

710
00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:22,070
Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.

711
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:23,430
We know what's going to happen.

712
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:27,310
And by the way, according to Zero Hedge,

713
00:22:27,810 --> 00:22:32,190
and they would know, cocaine inflation erupts in

714
00:22:32,190 --> 00:22:35,190
Europe after U.S. strikes the Caribbean drug

715
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:35,590
boats.

716
00:22:36,090 --> 00:22:37,990
Just backing the two of us up.

717
00:22:38,210 --> 00:22:38,470
Yep.

718
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:42,190
30 to 45 percent per kilo more expensive.

719
00:22:42,650 --> 00:22:44,810
By the way, so I knew a couple

720
00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:47,950
of drug dealers in Amsterdam, marijuana drug dealers.

721
00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:49,070
I don't think they did cocaine.

722
00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:53,330
They might have done pills as well, ecstasy,

723
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:54,670
but nice people.

724
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:57,770
You know, they would smuggle the stuff into

725
00:22:57,770 --> 00:23:03,070
the country in flight cases for musical gear,

726
00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:05,410
speaker cases, all kinds of stuff.

727
00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:08,210
And they had, and everyone was paid off.

728
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:10,450
I don't know that for sure, but obviously.

729
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:14,630
And those people alone were multimillionaires.

730
00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:16,470
They had millions of dollars.

731
00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:18,490
They had houses all over the world.

732
00:23:18,490 --> 00:23:21,050
And they were one step above retail.

733
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:24,930
So just think about what's going back to

734
00:23:24,930 --> 00:23:26,810
the cartels and the manufacturers.

735
00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:28,850
It's got to be a multiple of that.

736
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:31,370
It's got to be hundreds of billions, hundreds

737
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:31,990
of billions.

738
00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:35,530
So I think it does make a difference.

739
00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:36,670
By the way, he got a boots on

740
00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:41,310
the ground from the Netherlands.

741
00:23:43,810 --> 00:23:46,230
And he's a documentary filmmaker.

742
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:47,750
And he was part of making a series

743
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:49,990
about the Dutch Navy and Coast Guard in

744
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:51,810
the Caribbean for National Geographic.

745
00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:54,050
And so this is older.

746
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:56,150
It was about protecting the waters around the

747
00:23:56,150 --> 00:23:56,910
Dutch Antilles.

748
00:23:57,070 --> 00:23:58,790
Different subjects in an episode, of course, but

749
00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:00,610
also a lot of drug traffic operations.

750
00:24:01,090 --> 00:24:02,750
From the footage provided to us by the

751
00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:04,550
Coast Guard in the interviews we made, I

752
00:24:04,550 --> 00:24:06,870
can tell you that the Dutch, working with

753
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:08,930
the US, have had operations in this region

754
00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:12,210
for probably a decade or longer, decades, sometimes

755
00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:14,710
with extreme measures like taking out drug boats

756
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:15,290
with force.

757
00:24:15,890 --> 00:24:18,130
Unfortunately, we weren't allowed to show the blowing

758
00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:20,230
up or machine gunning of drug boats in

759
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:23,130
the series due to the sensitive nature of

760
00:24:23,130 --> 00:24:24,110
the subject in the Netherlands.

761
00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:24,750
Yeah, no kidding.

762
00:24:24,910 --> 00:24:25,690
It's our dough.

763
00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:28,170
What we did show is that the boats

764
00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:30,330
get chased down by fast boats or choppers.

765
00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:32,250
They get at least four warnings over the

766
00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:33,270
portafone.

767
00:24:33,810 --> 00:24:35,790
Most give up and get boarded and arrested.

768
00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:37,370
If they don't stop to get boarded, they

769
00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:39,350
get their engines shot by marksmen from the

770
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:39,730
chopper.

771
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:41,990
If this doesn't work or they fight back,

772
00:24:42,050 --> 00:24:43,710
they get machine gunned or blown up.

773
00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:46,750
Says this has been going on forever, but

774
00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:48,230
now all of a sudden this is a

775
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:48,910
huge issue.

776
00:24:50,510 --> 00:24:51,030
Yeah.

777
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:51,870
Midterms.

778
00:24:52,030 --> 00:24:54,730
We have the best producers in the universe.

779
00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:56,450
The best, hands down.

780
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:57,610
Well, that's what happens.

781
00:24:57,670 --> 00:24:58,310
You accumulate.

782
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:59,270
Yes.

783
00:24:59,830 --> 00:25:00,890
So let me see.

784
00:25:01,030 --> 00:25:01,390
We have...

785
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:03,610
So that's a good story.

786
00:25:03,910 --> 00:25:09,250
What's interesting about this is this little ditty,

787
00:25:09,370 --> 00:25:10,510
which got some play.

788
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:13,930
The 57-year-old former president of Honduras

789
00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:15,750
was found guilty in a U.S. federal

790
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:18,870
court of working with drug cartels conspiring to

791
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:21,870
distribute more than 400 tons of cocaine toward

792
00:25:21,870 --> 00:25:22,770
the United States.

793
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:24,730
He was found to have taken millions of

794
00:25:24,730 --> 00:25:27,890
dollars in bribes, and prosecutors said he bragged

795
00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:28,670
about all of it.

796
00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:31,510
Hernandez declared that he wanted, and I quote,

797
00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:35,110
to stuff the drugs right up the noses

798
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:36,010
of the gringos.

799
00:25:36,010 --> 00:25:39,590
Witnesses at trial said Juan Orlando Hernandez used

800
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:42,550
Honduran military units to escort drug shipments.

801
00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:44,790
A federal jury in New York took only

802
00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:47,190
about nine hours to deliberate and convict him

803
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:48,850
on importation and weapons charges.

804
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:51,370
He was sentenced to 45 years in federal

805
00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:51,730
prison.

806
00:25:51,970 --> 00:25:54,030
But all of that changed this week when

807
00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:55,510
he was pardoned by President Trump.

808
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:57,030
I feel very good about it.

809
00:25:57,750 --> 00:26:00,230
If you have some drug dealers in your

810
00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:03,710
country and you're the president, you don't necessarily

811
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:06,130
put the president in jail for 45 years.

812
00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:09,210
President Trump called Hernandez's trial last year a

813
00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:11,770
witch hunt by the Biden administration, although there

814
00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:14,430
were no allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.

815
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:16,070
It was a case that the Justice Department

816
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:19,030
had built over a number of years against

817
00:26:19,030 --> 00:26:21,550
Juan Orlando that dated back to the trial

818
00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:22,310
of his brother, Tony.

819
00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:25,250
Hernandez's brother, Tony, was tried and convicted for

820
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:27,750
charges related to drug trafficking by the first

821
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:29,770
Trump administration in 2019.

822
00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:33,470
Democrats and some Republicans in Congress are slamming

823
00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:33,950
the pardon.

824
00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,790
Republican Senator Rand Paul said it flies in

825
00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:39,450
the face of the Trump administration's escalating campaign

826
00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:41,190
against drug cartels in the region.

827
00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:43,070
So if you look up the history of

828
00:26:43,070 --> 00:26:45,230
this, and of course, everyone's flummoxed, how can

829
00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:47,090
he be blowing up drug boats but letting

830
00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:48,150
this guy go free?

831
00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:52,230
First of all, his brother, Tony, he was

832
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:53,390
the drug dealer.

833
00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:56,650
And it seems to me, just before you

834
00:26:56,650 --> 00:27:00,610
continue, based on just what was in that

835
00:27:00,610 --> 00:27:03,190
report, that Tony was the bad guy.

836
00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:06,210
This guy was an innocent, basically, you know,

837
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:08,070
a brother, but he's an innocent bystander for

838
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:08,990
all practical purposes.

839
00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:11,170
And the Trump administration must have known that

840
00:27:11,170 --> 00:27:12,950
back in the first administration.

841
00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:15,530
And then the guy got caught up and

842
00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:16,390
thrown in the slammer.

843
00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:19,210
But the Trump people already knew that he

844
00:27:19,210 --> 00:27:20,770
was not a guilty guy.

845
00:27:20,770 --> 00:27:21,330
Yes.

846
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:24,990
And like eight years ago, five years ago.

847
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:26,950
But he was thrown in the slammer in

848
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:27,670
2024.

849
00:27:28,550 --> 00:27:30,250
So his brother went to jail in 19

850
00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:31,870
during Trump administration.

851
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:36,110
In fact, as President Hernandez positioned himself as

852
00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:38,010
a key U.S. ally in the war

853
00:27:38,010 --> 00:27:39,570
on drugs, which, of course, is a joke.

854
00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:42,530
But he oversaw the extradition of over two

855
00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:45,410
dozen high profile drug traffickers to the United

856
00:27:45,410 --> 00:27:48,210
States, including figures linked to major cartels.

857
00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:51,310
This included cooperation with U.S. agencies like

858
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,730
DEA, which would have given him access to

859
00:27:53,730 --> 00:27:57,250
intelligence on cartel structures, routes and the leaders

860
00:27:57,250 --> 00:28:01,650
in Honduras, a critical trans Honduras, a critical

861
00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:03,930
transit hub for cocaine from South America to

862
00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:06,610
the U.S. I'm thinking this guy has

863
00:28:06,610 --> 00:28:07,910
some valuable information.

864
00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:12,450
And this will make a lot of a

865
00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:15,270
lot of financial people very nervous if he

866
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:18,110
actually knows not just how the how the

867
00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:19,650
drugs flow, but he knows how the money

868
00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:20,170
flows.

869
00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:23,210
This could be a very interesting guy to

870
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:23,670
talk to.

871
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:26,490
And all he really got convicted of was,

872
00:28:27,130 --> 00:28:30,530
you know, supposedly one million dollar campaign or

873
00:28:30,530 --> 00:28:33,170
bribe, they call it a campaign contribution, but

874
00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:36,850
was categorized as a bribe from El Chapo.

875
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:42,590
And the rest was just witnesses who just

876
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:44,070
said, no, no, no, that guy's guilty.

877
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:44,970
He's no good.

878
00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:48,510
Yeah, this is another thing, but I don't

879
00:28:48,510 --> 00:28:49,950
want to go off track because I have

880
00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:51,410
this three by three to do, but I

881
00:28:51,410 --> 00:28:52,250
want to play this.

882
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:55,990
Trump's been pardoning doing weird pardons.

883
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:59,290
And he does it in, you know, in

884
00:28:59,290 --> 00:29:00,330
kind of a linear fashion.

885
00:29:00,430 --> 00:29:01,610
He doesn't wait till the end of his

886
00:29:01,610 --> 00:29:04,050
administration and then pardon a million people.

887
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:08,550
And he pardoned this Cuellar guy who was

888
00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:10,250
the Democrat from Texas, Democrat.

889
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:11,670
Yeah, Democrat, yeah.

890
00:29:12,270 --> 00:29:15,930
Who was who was arrested.

891
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:17,190
Can I stop you for a second?

892
00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:18,670
Do I have all your clips?

893
00:29:18,770 --> 00:29:20,150
I don't have a three by three.

894
00:29:21,670 --> 00:29:23,090
Do I have all your clips?

895
00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:24,050
You better.

896
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:28,790
No, I mean, I got your clips this

897
00:29:28,790 --> 00:29:31,110
morning was but I don't see that in

898
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:31,370
there.

899
00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:33,390
Cuellar guy.

900
00:29:33,490 --> 00:29:33,910
Let me check.

901
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:34,810
Let me double check, man.

902
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:35,790
This is no good.

903
00:29:35,790 --> 00:29:37,130
Maybe I should go resend the clips.

904
00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:39,290
Uh, I will.

905
00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:40,510
It's possible.

906
00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:44,670
No, I don't.

907
00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:46,630
I mean, I have only 20 clips.

908
00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:49,050
I got more than that on here.

909
00:29:49,270 --> 00:29:51,030
Yeah, well, that was not in your email.

910
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:56,400
This is we have a production issue.

911
00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:57,980
Yes.

912
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:00,500
Do you want to send me those real

913
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:00,780
quick?

914
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,780
We're going to have to stop tape.

915
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520
OK, tape has been restarted.

916
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:04,980
We're back.

917
00:30:04,980 --> 00:30:08,060
I'm glad that people have to understand that

918
00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:10,760
in preparation for this show, there is no

919
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,240
collusion at all.

920
00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:12,920
Any collusion?

921
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:14,520
There's no conversations.

922
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,580
We don't talk about anything.

923
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,280
I show up, you show up, you send

924
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,700
me clips.

925
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:21,040
I don't look at the clips.

926
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,660
I don't listen to the clips because I

927
00:30:23,660 --> 00:30:25,740
want to be just as surprised and delighted

928
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,700
as everybody else.

929
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,100
So what were you looking?

930
00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:29,420
What were you looking for?

931
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,620
The Cuellar Cuellar.

932
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,020
Yes.

933
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Oh, the pardon.

934
00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:34,620
The pardon.

935
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,420
OK, Cuellar.

936
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:38,020
And how do you spell Cuellar?

937
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,280
C-U-E.

938
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,100
Oh, like cellular.

939
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:41,820
I got it.

940
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:45,080
President Trump pardoning Texas Representative Henry Cuellar and

941
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,020
his wife Imelda.

942
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,520
Cuellar was indicted last year on more than

943
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,680
a dozen federal charges and the president declaring

944
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,400
a historic reset of fuel economy standards.

945
00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,220
We now go live to our Washington correspondent

946
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:59,220
Mari Otsu at the North Lawn of the

947
00:30:59,220 --> 00:30:59,840
White House.

948
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:01,240
Mari, good evening.

949
00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:02,520
Tiff, good evening.

950
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,420
Yes, Texas Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar was an

951
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:09,300
outspoken critic of former President Joe Biden's border

952
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:09,900
policies.

953
00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:12,880
And back in May 2024, he and his

954
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,500
wife Imelda were indicted for allegedly accepting nearly

955
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:20,280
$600,000 in bribes in exchange for influencing

956
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,760
U.S. foreign policy in favor of Azerbaijan

957
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,320
and a Mexican bank.

958
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,980
Cuellar and his wife have denied all of

959
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:27,520
these charges.

960
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,420
And President Trump today is announcing his, quote,

961
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240
full and unconditional pardon of both of the

962
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,220
Cuellars on Truth Social, saying, quote, for years,

963
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,940
the Biden administration has weaponized the justice system

964
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:42,220
against their political opponents and anyone who disagreed

965
00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:42,780
with them.

966
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:44,500
He also adds that one of the clearest

967
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:47,040
examples of this was when Biden used both

968
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,400
the FBI and the DOJ to, quote, take

969
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,300
out a member of his own party, referring

970
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,940
to Cuellar as bravely speaking out against open

971
00:31:54,940 --> 00:31:57,360
borders and what President Trump calls the Biden

972
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,400
border catastrophe.

973
00:31:58,620 --> 00:31:59,100
Take a look.

974
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:00,620
He's a respected person.

975
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:03,240
He was treated very badly because he said

976
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,440
that people should not be allowed to pour

977
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,260
into our country.

978
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,040
And he was right.

979
00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:09,460
He didn't like open borders.

980
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:12,420
He represents the people on the border.

981
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,000
And he saw what was happening.

982
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:16,320
And as soon as he made that statement,

983
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,340
I then said, I'll bet he gets indicted.

984
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:20,600
And that's what happened.

985
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,140
He got indicted for speaking the truth.

986
00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:26,900
And his wife got indicted, Imelda.

987
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
And that's sort of a first.

988
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Usually, they leave the wives alone.

989
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,440
Now, he had a little comment at the

990
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840
end that usually they like the mob.

991
00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:40,320
Oh, good, good catch.

992
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:42,260
Leave the wives alone.

993
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Well, what I caught in there is some

994
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Mexican bank.

995
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,040
When I hear that, I'm like, uh-huh.

996
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Yeah.

997
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,740
What about the Mexican bank?

998
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Did he know something about some cash going

999
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,420
into the Mexican bank?

1000
00:32:57,980 --> 00:32:59,560
I have no idea what the deal is

1001
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,440
with the Mexican bank.

1002
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,640
But I heard that, too.

1003
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,260
The Mexican bank and then Azerbaijan.

1004
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,000
I mean, he took a big bribe for

1005
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,280
them.

1006
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:06,900
What?

1007
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:08,460
What is that?

1008
00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:09,000
What?

1009
00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:10,220
Yeah.

1010
00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:12,760
So they got the COP 30 or something.

1011
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:13,360
I don't know.

1012
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Yeah.

1013
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,100
This, all of this feels so North Sea

1014
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:19,920
Nexus to me.

1015
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,800
Just feels like it.

1016
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,860
You know, especially with Hernandez.

1017
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,960
You know, maybe we may be getting some

1018
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,960
interesting information.

1019
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Well, back to the drug boats.

1020
00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:32,260
Let's play the three by three because it

1021
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,640
concerns Hegseth.

1022
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:34,220
All right.

1023
00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:46,860
That's right.

1024
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:48,560
We have a three by three from the

1025
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560
big three, ABC, CBS, NBC.

1026
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,260
And it's about the bullcrap.

1027
00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:53,860
And where do you want to start?

1028
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,660
Who has to start with ABC?

1029
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:56,340
Here we go.

1030
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,220
Tonight, under mounting pressure, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth

1031
00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:03,540
insisting the decision to launch a second strike

1032
00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:07,000
against a suspected drug boat in September was

1033
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,540
not his call, but that of the mission's

1034
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,400
commander, Admiral Mitch Bradley.

1035
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,600
Sunk the boat and eliminated the threat.

1036
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,540
And he was the right call.

1037
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,900
We have his back.

1038
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:21,480
The day after the attack, Hegseth said he

1039
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,260
had watched in real time.

1040
00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:24,380
I watched it live.

1041
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:26,500
We knew exactly who was in that boat.

1042
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,300
We knew exactly what they were doing.

1043
00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:32,280
But today, Hegseth said he left before the

1044
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,120
second strike.

1045
00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:35,420
I watched that first strike live.

1046
00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:37,540
As you can imagine, the Department of War,

1047
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,600
we got a lot of things to do.

1048
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,920
So I didn't stick around for the hour

1049
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,780
and two hours, whatever, all the sensitive site

1050
00:34:43,780 --> 00:34:45,460
exploitation digitally occurs.

1051
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,940
So I moved on to my next meeting.

1052
00:34:47,659 --> 00:34:50,300
Hegseth was asked if he saw survivors.

1053
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:53,199
I did not personally see survivors, but I

1054
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,500
stand because the thing was on fire.

1055
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:57,620
It was exploded and fire and smoke.

1056
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,420
You can't see anything.

1057
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:58,980
You got digital.

1058
00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:00,820
This is called the fog of war.

1059
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,460
The secretary claims he didn't hear about the

1060
00:35:03,460 --> 00:35:06,040
second strike until an hour or so later.

1061
00:35:06,140 --> 00:35:09,340
Over the weekend, President Trump said he hadn't

1062
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:11,940
known about the second strike and wouldn't have

1063
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:12,720
wanted it.

1064
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,840
We'll look into it.

1065
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,780
But no, I wouldn't have wanted that.

1066
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,920
Not a second strike.

1067
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,780
The first strike was very lethal.

1068
00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:20,580
It was fine.

1069
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,660
And if there were two people around, but

1070
00:35:22,660 --> 00:35:23,840
Pete said that didn't happen.

1071
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:27,340
And today, sitting next to his secretary, the

1072
00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:29,640
president said he was still somewhat in the

1073
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,000
dark.

1074
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,360
I still haven't gotten a lot of information

1075
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,520
because I rely on Pete.

1076
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,080
But to me, it was an attack.

1077
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:38,160
It wasn't one strike, two strikes, three strikes.

1078
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:40,620
Somebody asked me a question about the second

1079
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:40,960
strike.

1080
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,320
I didn't know about the second strike.

1081
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:44,060
I didn't know anything about people.

1082
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,140
I wasn't involved in it.

1083
00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:46,300
I knew they took out a boat.

1084
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,980
You know, this is all, all this noise

1085
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:54,860
is made by the, is it the appropriations?

1086
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,580
What's the war committee?

1087
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,940
The war committee?

1088
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:03,200
Yeah, who are the people of oversight over

1089
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,640
the military?

1090
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,200
The Armed Forces Committee?

1091
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,720
No, I don't think, I don't think it's

1092
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:08,480
called that.

1093
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:14,280
I still think this is somehow related to

1094
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,220
fraud that's going to be uncovered in Ukraine.

1095
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,740
I'm sorry, what?

1096
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,180
Fraud that will be uncovered in Ukraine.

1097
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:22,540
Oh, fraud.

1098
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:24,780
It was going to be, they had a

1099
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:25,460
huge case.

1100
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:26,560
He's lost a bunch of people.

1101
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:28,460
Well, no, but I think, I think we

1102
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:30,500
may see some of this tie back to

1103
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:31,200
kickbacks.

1104
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:33,140
This was a lot of money.

1105
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,240
Remember all of them were saying, hey, man,

1106
00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:37,860
it's okay because this money comes back to

1107
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:40,660
America, comes back to our company, to our

1108
00:36:40,660 --> 00:36:42,180
military companies.

1109
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,020
A lot of it gets stolen.

1110
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:47,960
Well, or kickbacks.

1111
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,260
Yeah, yeah.

1112
00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:49,760
Yeah.

1113
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:51,180
It's corrupt.

1114
00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:52,500
Ukraine, hello.

1115
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:53,500
No, but our own.

1116
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,820
It's always considered the most corrupt, but I

1117
00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:56,340
don't see it having anything to do with

1118
00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:56,600
this.

1119
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,600
Okay.

1120
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,560
They do not like, they do not like

1121
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Hegseth.

1122
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,240
They don't like Hegseth that's sitting there, that's

1123
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:03,420
for sure.

1124
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:05,940
No, they don't like Hegseth, that's for sure.

1125
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,620
One day after the White House confirmed there

1126
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:11,460
was a second strike on a suspected Venezuelan

1127
00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:12,080
drug boat.

1128
00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:14,940
President Trump today said he did not know

1129
00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:15,600
about it.

1130
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,340
I should not have gotten a lot of

1131
00:37:18,340 --> 00:37:20,620
information because I rely on Pete, but to

1132
00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:21,580
me it was an attack.

1133
00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:24,560
The legality of the September 2nd attack is

1134
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,280
in question.

1135
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:29,020
After the Washington Post reported Defense Secretary Pete

1136
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:32,700
Hegseth allegedly issued an order to kill everybody.

1137
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,460
And that Navy Admiral Mitch Bradley apparently ordered

1138
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:39,220
the second strike to take out two survivors,

1139
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:43,620
fulfilling Hegseth's directive, which many legal experts describe

1140
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:45,020
as a war crime.

1141
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,920
Hegseth said he only saw the first strike.

1142
00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:50,060
A couple of hours later, I learned that

1143
00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:52,040
that commander had made the, which he had

1144
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,560
the complete authority to do.

1145
00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:55,780
And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the

1146
00:37:55,780 --> 00:37:59,000
correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and

1147
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,720
eliminate the threat.

1148
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,440
Trump also pointed to Admiral Bradley.

1149
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,080
I hear the gentleman that was in charge

1150
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,000
of that is extraordinary, extraordinary person.

1151
00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:11,100
But the DOD's law of war manual states

1152
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,040
that shipwrecked combatants are in a helpless state

1153
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,140
and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to

1154
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:19,160
make them the object of an attack.

1155
00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:21,880
I did not personally see survivors, but I

1156
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,160
stand because the thing was on fire.

1157
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,260
It was exploded and fire smoke.

1158
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,640
You can't see the digital.

1159
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,460
This is called the fog of war.

1160
00:38:29,460 --> 00:38:32,000
At the cabinet meeting, the president also talked

1161
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,120
about his new efforts to pause migration and

1162
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,940
singled out Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who came

1163
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:41,040
to the U.S. as a Somali refugee.

1164
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,540
Omar is garbage.

1165
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,380
She's garbage.

1166
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Her friends are garbage.

1167
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,100
These are people that work.

1168
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,460
They complain and do nothing but bitch.

1169
00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:54,040
We don't want them in our country.

1170
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:57,920
Why did they even throw that into the

1171
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,400
report?

1172
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,100
I'm not sure.

1173
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,840
I do have some stuff on that later.

1174
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,580
I just wanted to point out one thing

1175
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:07,380
that on December 2nd, just because Hegseth, you

1176
00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:10,540
know, he set up new procurement rules.

1177
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,980
They were going to be looking at different

1178
00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:15,600
ways of qualifying contractors.

1179
00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:20,560
And the Missile Defense Agency announced on the

1180
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,360
2nd, the 1014 qualifying offers for, here it

1181
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,220
comes, the Scalable Homeland Innovation Enterprise Layered Defense

1182
00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:34,300
Program, which is an acronym for S.H

1183
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,480
.I.E.L.D. It's for the Iron

1184
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,900
Dome, for the Golden Dome.

1185
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:40,120
Golden Dome.

1186
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,880
That is worth up to 151 billion dollars.

1187
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:47,120
And it went to many small companies.

1188
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:51,460
So if there's a reason for the system

1189
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:54,400
to hate Hegseth, this is a good way

1190
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,400
to put the spotlight on him and try

1191
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,080
and get him out.

1192
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,000
Especially when he says dumb stuff like, it

1193
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,660
was the fog of war, man.

1194
00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:04,440
Yeah, I found that to be stupid.

1195
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:04,780
That's dumb.

1196
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,660
That's dumb.

1197
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,440
But he's not, you know, he's a, he's

1198
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680
not well liked by some people.

1199
00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:14,700
Oh.

1200
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:16,420
Because he's slightly arrogant.

1201
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:18,320
He's got a kind of arrogance I can

1202
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,740
see would drive some people nuts.

1203
00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:20,600
He's a pretty boy.

1204
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,620
This other guy, this admiral who was in

1205
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:27,040
charge of this operation, they keep saying Hegseth

1206
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,520
threw him under the bus.

1207
00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:30,580
Hegseth did no such thing.

1208
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,960
But he says the guy's great.

1209
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,000
He did what he's supposed to do.

1210
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,680
We know we need some PBS clips because

1211
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,520
they're always sponsored by Northrop Grumman.

1212
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,620
So we need to hear what they're saying

1213
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:43,140
about him.

1214
00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:44,800
I don't have the PBS.

1215
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,980
This is Steve's project.

1216
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:48,480
I know.

1217
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:48,840
I know.

1218
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,880
Steve is good about this.

1219
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,180
He needs to add the PBS.

1220
00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:56,000
Tonight, President Trump defending striking a boat, allegedly

1221
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,080
carrying drugs to the U.S. twice.

1222
00:40:58,260 --> 00:40:58,740
Allegedly.

1223
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,460
Allegedly.

1224
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:00,820
I want those boats taken out.

1225
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:02,740
And if we have to, we'll attack on

1226
00:41:02,740 --> 00:41:04,640
land also, just like we attack on sea.

1227
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,860
And there's very little coming in by sea.

1228
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,620
I think we've knocked out over 90%

1229
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:08,980
of it.

1230
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,720
Two people initially survived.

1231
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,000
And the administration says the decision for a

1232
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,680
second strike, killing all on board, was made

1233
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,280
by Admiral Frank Bradley.

1234
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said even though

1235
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,420
he watched the first part of the attack

1236
00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:24,640
live, he'd moved on to his next meeting

1237
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,980
before the second strike.

1238
00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:29,200
Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately

1239
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120
sink the boat and eliminate the threat.

1240
00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:33,740
We have his back and the American people

1241
00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:37,020
are safer because narco-terrorists know you can't

1242
00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:39,260
bring drugs through the water.

1243
00:41:39,460 --> 00:41:41,300
So you didn't see any survivors, to be

1244
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:42,720
clear, after that first strike?

1245
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,340
I did not personally see survivors, but I

1246
00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:45,920
stand.

1247
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,660
Because the thing was on fire.

1248
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,780
It was exploded in fire and smoke.

1249
00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:50,580
You can't see anything.

1250
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,960
This is called the fog of war.

1251
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:55,360
It comes as the administration ramps up its

1252
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,980
crackdown on illegal immigration.

1253
00:41:57,220 --> 00:41:59,420
A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News

1254
00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:01,360
ICE is planning an operation this week.

1255
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,260
Oh, hold on a second.

1256
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,580
So now I see what CBS did is

1257
00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:07,140
what NBC is doing as well.

1258
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,560
They're somehow tying in drug boats and killing

1259
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,640
people to immigration and ICE.

1260
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:18,320
It's almost like a mind trick.

1261
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:25,820
Think about killing people, boats, borders, stuff, brown

1262
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:27,220
people.

1263
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,540
Oh, yeah, Somalis.

1264
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,980
Exploded in fire and smoke.

1265
00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:31,620
Pirates.

1266
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,640
You can't see anything.

1267
00:42:32,740 --> 00:42:35,060
This is called the fog of war.

1268
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,460
It comes as the administration ramps up its

1269
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:39,080
crackdown on illegal immigration.

1270
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,520
A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News

1271
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,780
ICE is planning an operation this week in

1272
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:45,540
the Minneapolis-St. Paul area.

1273
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:47,900
There's a large Somali population.

1274
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,880
You told me to look into Minnesota and

1275
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,180
their fraud on visas and their programs.

1276
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,460
50 percent of them are fraudulent.

1277
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,200
Federal prosecutors have charged dozens of people in

1278
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Minnesota's Somali community for allegedly stealing hundreds of

1279
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,080
millions of dollars in taxpayer money meant for

1280
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,480
social service programs.

1281
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,000
This beautiful place.

1282
00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:11,060
And I see these people ripping it off

1283
00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:12,300
their country's stakes.

1284
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,680
And we don't want them in our country.

1285
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,760
But when they come from hell and they

1286
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,860
complain and do nothing but bitch.

1287
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,420
We don't want them in our country.

1288
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Let them go back to where they came

1289
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,080
from and fix it.

1290
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:30,080
Now, there's an important nuance in what's happening

1291
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,360
here.

1292
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,320
This is a good catch.

1293
00:43:31,940 --> 00:43:32,480
Well, yeah.

1294
00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:36,260
Associative news coverage is what it amounts to.

1295
00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:38,140
And they both associate one with the other.

1296
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:38,500
Yes.

1297
00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:39,960
Two separate stories.

1298
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,420
Let's drag them together and make Trump look

1299
00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:42,720
bad.

1300
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,600
There's an important nuance in the Somali business,

1301
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,140
which, surprisingly, ABC tagged in this report.

1302
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,720
This morning, ICE preparing to ramp up enforcement

1303
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,740
operations in Minnesota as President Trump lashes out

1304
00:43:54,740 --> 00:43:56,980
at immigrants from Somalia, saying we don't want

1305
00:43:56,980 --> 00:43:59,220
them in our country, and continues to attack

1306
00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:01,260
Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

1307
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,840
We're going to go the wrong way if

1308
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,140
we keep taking in garbage into our country.

1309
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,820
Ilhan Omar is garbage.

1310
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,660
She's garbage.

1311
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,340
Her friends are garbage.

1312
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,360
These are people that work.

1313
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,880
These are people that say, let's go.

1314
00:44:14,060 --> 00:44:15,520
Come on, let's make this place great.

1315
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,100
These are people that do nothing but complain.

1316
00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:20,100
They complain.

1317
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,860
And from where they came from, they got

1318
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:23,360
nothing.

1319
00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:25,940
You know, they came from paradise.

1320
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,020
And they said, this isn't paradise.

1321
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:31,520
But when they come from hell and they

1322
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,140
complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't

1323
00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:37,160
want them in our country.

1324
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Minnesota is home to the nation's largest Somali

1325
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,820
population.

1326
00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:43,560
Multiple law enforcement officials tell ABC News that

1327
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,180
ICE is preparing for a surge operation in

1328
00:44:46,180 --> 00:44:48,900
the state, focusing on St. Paul and Minneapolis

1329
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:50,720
as early as this week.

1330
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:53,160
The city's mayor says police won't help ICE

1331
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,040
when they arrive.

1332
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,720
Targeting Somali people means that due process will

1333
00:44:58,720 --> 00:44:59,380
be violated.

1334
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Mistakes will be made.

1335
00:45:01,780 --> 00:45:03,620
And let's be clear, it means that American

1336
00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:07,520
citizens will be detained for no other reason

1337
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,240
than the fact that they look like they

1338
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:09,900
are Somali.

1339
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:13,680
The president criticizing Somalis for weeks now, terminating

1340
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,100
temporary protected status for Somalis and writing, send

1341
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,800
them back to where they came from.

1342
00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:21,120
And this morning, the Trump administration cracking down

1343
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,940
on immigration nationwide, pausing all immigration applications for

1344
00:45:24,940 --> 00:45:27,740
people from 19 so-called countries of concern,

1345
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,260
including Somalia, Afghanistan, Venezuela and Sudan.

1346
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,160
We have to remember that the use of

1347
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:41,480
temporary status has been abused by Biden and

1348
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,640
by Obama, both to bring in cheap labor.

1349
00:45:45,340 --> 00:45:47,840
And what I think President Trump here is

1350
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560
railing against is, hey, we gave these people

1351
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,360
temporary protective status because Somali is garbage.

1352
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,820
It's a hellhole.

1353
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,280
And now they're sitting here and bitching around.

1354
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,100
Get them out.

1355
00:45:59,140 --> 00:46:00,840
And he says, all right, you want to

1356
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,320
be that way?

1357
00:46:01,340 --> 00:46:02,340
You want to steal our money?

1358
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,180
Because wow, Republicans and Democrats both have blown

1359
00:46:07,180 --> 00:46:09,820
the whistle so many times on Minnesota.

1360
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,740
About hundreds of millions of dollars being stolen.

1361
00:46:15,580 --> 00:46:18,680
And did you see the Tucker Carlson interview

1362
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,040
with a woman who says that Tim Walz

1363
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,920
has been shoveling top secrets to the Chinese?

1364
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:28,180
That's why he's taking all those trips to

1365
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:29,560
China when he's in the National Guard.

1366
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,160
Oh, no, I remember that part, but I

1367
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,700
don't remember.

1368
00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:33,780
No, I did not hear this.

1369
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,780
That's it's quite good.

1370
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:37,160
Well, so somewhere the president called Tim Walz

1371
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:37,800
a retard.

1372
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,080
Oh, yeah, on Thanksgiving.

1373
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,980
Well, I have the, I have the clip.

1374
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:43,100
Oh, do you have that clip?

1375
00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:43,780
I want to hear the clip.

1376
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,080
No, I have the reaction clip, which is

1377
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,680
quite good.

1378
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:47,820
Well, the one on the airplane?

1379
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:50,080
No, no.

1380
00:46:50,260 --> 00:46:51,200
I don't know what you're talking about.

1381
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,840
Well, I have Trump responding on the airplane.

1382
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,060
What's your reaction clip?

1383
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,460
I had to know.

1384
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,400
Ah, caught you off guard, didn't I?

1385
00:46:59,140 --> 00:46:59,820
A little bit.

1386
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,120
Yeah.

1387
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Well, this.

1388
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:04,940
Oh, man.

1389
00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:07,980
It's such a funny clip, too.

1390
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,240
Well, let me play the, this is short.

1391
00:47:10,340 --> 00:47:12,140
This is Trump on the plane being asked,

1392
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,840
do you stand by calling Governor Walz retarded?

1393
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:18,620
On top of that, in that same post,

1394
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,920
you mentioned Tim Walz and you called him

1395
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,560
what many Americans do find an offensive word,

1396
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,580
retarded.

1397
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,820
Do you stand by that claim of calling

1398
00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:27,720
Tim Walz retarded?

1399
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,260
Yeah, I think there's something wrong with him.

1400
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:29,740
Absolutely.

1401
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,260
Sure.

1402
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:30,840
Yeah.

1403
00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:32,180
You have a problem with it?

1404
00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:33,460
You know what?

1405
00:47:33,460 --> 00:47:35,120
I think there's something wrong with that.

1406
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,660
Anybody that would do what he did, anybody

1407
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:39,680
that would allow those people into his state

1408
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,820
and pay billions of dollars out to Somalia.

1409
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640
We give billions of dollars to Somalia.

1410
00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:47,720
It's not even a country because it doesn't

1411
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:48,860
function like a country.

1412
00:47:49,180 --> 00:47:50,980
It's got a name, but it doesn't function

1413
00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:51,720
like a country.

1414
00:47:52,140 --> 00:47:54,000
Yeah, there's something wrong with Walz.

1415
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:56,860
This is the clip.

1416
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,900
This is the talk.

1417
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,840
This is good.

1418
00:48:00,140 --> 00:48:00,660
It's interesting.

1419
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Talk sketch Trump.

1420
00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:05,760
I'm not a blind Trump supporter.

1421
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:09,520
I don't really trust any politicians and I

1422
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,560
voice my discrepancies with Trump all the time.

1423
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:16,400
However, calling Tim Walz a retard on Thanksgiving

1424
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,580
Day is exactly what I voted for.

1425
00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:23,940
That was a funny clip from this woman

1426
00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:25,200
and it was stolen.

1427
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:28,020
The whole gag was stolen by the redheaded

1428
00:48:28,020 --> 00:48:31,200
libertarian on Twitter.

1429
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,040
She did the same gag.

1430
00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:33,720
Really?

1431
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,200
I found it very, and I think it's

1432
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,980
like, you know, this don't steal people's material.

1433
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:39,560
We would never do that.

1434
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,580
No, we just write up, take it and

1435
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:42,300
give you credit.

1436
00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:45,220
Now, before we leave the Venezuela thing, I

1437
00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:48,120
do have a clip from that you would

1438
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,780
appreciate.

1439
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,120
This is, and I don't understand what happened.

1440
00:48:53,540 --> 00:48:53,980
No.

1441
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,600
What do you mean no?

1442
00:48:56,020 --> 00:48:56,460
No.

1443
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:57,780
No what?

1444
00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:59,860
It's not the real estate people.

1445
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:02,300
It's the real estate guy.

1446
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:07,840
Now, I'd like to know when Clayton Morris

1447
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,300
turned on Trump.

1448
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,580
He has this woman on who's an apologist

1449
00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:15,060
for Venezuela's government.

1450
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,140
And she runs a supposedly an international news

1451
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:19,780
operation.

1452
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,580
She's the editor of this thing called Kawashun

1453
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:24,520
News.

1454
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,520
It's k-a-w-s-a-c-h

1455
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,320
-u-n-news.com.

1456
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:30,760
And it's supposed to be international.

1457
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,600
I'm going to read the headlines from the

1458
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,100
front page of this.

1459
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,580
Let me guess.

1460
00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:35,680
Trump sucks.

1461
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:40,380
The top story is James Cameron's Avatar 3D

1462
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:42,020
drops stunning new trailer.

1463
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:43,560
Okay.

1464
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,740
That's the top story.

1465
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,920
It's right at the top of what you

1466
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,520
call the fold.

1467
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,020
This is the woman's Camila Escalante.

1468
00:49:52,420 --> 00:49:54,000
And now here's the other headlines.

1469
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,320
Experts confirm Israel's Gaza assault is genocide.

1470
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,500
Bobby Kennedy reignites eugenics debate.

1471
00:50:02,020 --> 00:50:03,700
Shocking scandal exposed.

1472
00:50:04,180 --> 00:50:07,440
Trump musks hunt for social security fraud deemed

1473
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,100
a sham.

1474
00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:10,560
And by the way, every headline's got an

1475
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,180
exclamation point at the end.

1476
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,540
Well, of course.

1477
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:13,100
It's what you do.

1478
00:50:13,220 --> 00:50:16,280
Donald Trump emblem of universal decline and collapse.

1479
00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:19,440
GOP's agenda exposed.

1480
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,480
How they're making your life tougher.

1481
00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:25,420
This high school runner slams main GOP lawmaker

1482
00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:27,500
for targeting trans race winner.

1483
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:29,600
This looks like my YouTube feed.

1484
00:50:33,860 --> 00:50:35,240
Anyway, it goes on.

1485
00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:36,660
But it's like ridiculous.

1486
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:39,640
And so here we have her on the

1487
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:39,940
show.

1488
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,340
And then Clayton goes on to a rant,

1489
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,020
which is information that I had no idea.

1490
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,580
Now, we need to explain to everybody that

1491
00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:51,680
we know Clayton and Natalie personally.

1492
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Natalie worked for me.

1493
00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:54,260
Yeah.

1494
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,660
You trained her.

1495
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,980
You showed her how to do it.

1496
00:50:58,260 --> 00:50:59,760
So me, I gave her some.

1497
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,380
Yeah, I was.

1498
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,600
No, you trained her.

1499
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:02,600
No, you trained her.

1500
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:03,500
I can't train.

1501
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,660
I dressed her and got her new hair.

1502
00:51:06,220 --> 00:51:07,300
That was my job.

1503
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,480
And I think I did a pretty good

1504
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,120
job.

1505
00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:11,120
Got rid of this goofy glasses, which are

1506
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:11,720
now back.

1507
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,260
I'm like, he's on.

1508
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Now they're back.

1509
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:17,460
Again, you know, they moved to Portugal five

1510
00:51:17,460 --> 00:51:18,180
years ago.

1511
00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:19,880
They're back in New Jersey.

1512
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,280
They're back in New Jersey.

1513
00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:24,000
And look up Morris Invest and you'll learn

1514
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,640
more about them.

1515
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:25,360
Let's play the clip.

1516
00:51:25,660 --> 00:51:28,380
Trump seemed to have at one point thought

1517
00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:30,900
that this was his opportunity to do so.

1518
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,980
But he's seeing that the optics aren't very

1519
00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:35,360
good and that people, including the United States

1520
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,080
and his own party, are not or at

1521
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,900
least supporters or voters of his party aren't

1522
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:41,560
on board.

1523
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,980
Well, you hear that you hear the mega

1524
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:47,940
people like who, you know, you know, you

1525
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:49,860
know, the types I'm talking about who like

1526
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:53,120
lick, you know, like President Trump's feet wherever

1527
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,520
he walks, it's the narco terrorists.

1528
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:56,600
Like, that's what we're stopping.

1529
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,720
It's the it's the Venezuelan child trafficking operation

1530
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,100
at Newsflash.

1531
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,580
The United States is one of the largest

1532
00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:06,220
purveyors of child trafficking in the world, in

1533
00:52:06,220 --> 00:52:11,380
the world, in the world, Guatemala, white Ukraine.

1534
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,980
Ukraine is massive child trafficking operation.

1535
00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:15,920
Yet we can pick and choose like who

1536
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,060
we defend and all of this.

1537
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:17,840
It's all garbage.

1538
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,020
We all know it's about the oil and

1539
00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:22,400
the Chinese help who have helped.

1540
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,880
Of course, to try to actually refine some

1541
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,420
of this oil, which, you know, is not

1542
00:52:27,420 --> 00:52:28,900
the best oil in the world when it's

1543
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:30,300
pulled out of the ground, it requires quite

1544
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:31,940
a bit of refining and the Chinese have

1545
00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:32,500
been able to help.

1546
00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:35,620
So the Chinese sphere of influence in Latin

1547
00:52:35,620 --> 00:52:39,820
America, the oil, the Chinese, the Russians sphere

1548
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:40,720
of influence there.

1549
00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:43,800
This is exactly why the Trump administration seems

1550
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,760
to be moving in this direction.

1551
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,780
Sorry to just monologue there, but I just

1552
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:49,580
I feel like for anyone still falling for

1553
00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:51,340
the drug argument, they need to get their

1554
00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:51,920
heads examined.

1555
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,160
OK, I can tell you exactly when he

1556
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,160
became a Trump hater.

1557
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,320
I could even look up the date if

1558
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:58,760
you wanted.

1559
00:53:00,220 --> 00:53:01,100
No, no.

1560
00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:01,860
What do you mean?

1561
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,840
No, no, you don't have to look up

1562
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,240
the date.

1563
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:04,480
I've taken your word for that.

1564
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,620
You have a date when he went on

1565
00:53:06,620 --> 00:53:07,780
Tucker Carlson show.

1566
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:10,300
That's when it all started to flip.

1567
00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:13,320
And it's not because Clayton Morris has any

1568
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,200
any political scruples or he cares about America

1569
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:17,860
or no.

1570
00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:20,280
You think Tucker flipped him?

1571
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,400
No, what flipped him was, hey, if I

1572
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,300
do the stuff Tucker's doing, we'll be more

1573
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:27,820
successful.

1574
00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:29,240
He is a prime.

1575
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:32,820
Those two, Natalie and Clayton, prime examples of

1576
00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:33,820
audience capture.

1577
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,020
Because I know we know what we get

1578
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:38,460
when we just say, no, we don't think

1579
00:53:38,460 --> 00:53:39,400
that this is how it works.

1580
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:41,940
We don't think that Israel controls America.

1581
00:53:42,220 --> 00:53:45,320
Oh, everyone's hair's on fire.

1582
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,000
You should enjoy your shackles.

1583
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:49,600
Shackles.

1584
00:53:50,660 --> 00:53:52,360
Tina said the other day, where is the

1585
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:52,780
Jew money?

1586
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:56,100
I know it's one far between bucks a

1587
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:56,560
month.

1588
00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:01,160
Those are populist audience capture people.

1589
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,900
And by the way, that's a lot of

1590
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:03,140
them.

1591
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,900
They think there's a movement.

1592
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:06,520
It's America first.

1593
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,720
You know, it's different from MAGA.

1594
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,860
And Trump is all about foreign wars.

1595
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,260
And we have the blue hat.

1596
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,940
I have friends who think this, but he's

1597
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:16,800
just an ob.

1598
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,000
He's just David Icke.

1599
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:21,280
He's just completing the great reset.

1600
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Man, you guys should pay attention.

1601
00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:25,680
Three more years of this.

1602
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:27,060
You're never going to see it again.

1603
00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:28,260
Ever, ever, ever.

1604
00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:29,180
I've said it before.

1605
00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:31,980
Pay very close attention to what's really happening.

1606
00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:34,640
But no, it's all about oil.

1607
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,080
No, it truly is about America first.

1608
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,220
And even saying that, you guys used to

1609
00:54:42,220 --> 00:54:43,960
be in kind of in the middle.

1610
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,960
Now you're on everything Trump says.

1611
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:47,540
And Trump is good, man.

1612
00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:52,440
No, no, we just call what we see.

1613
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,800
I like the way you always have a

1614
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,680
puke sound at the end of these people's

1615
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,540
little diatribes.

1616
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,400
This voice you do.

1617
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,340
You always have that.

1618
00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:00,420
That's always thrown in.

1619
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,000
It's the truth.

1620
00:55:02,060 --> 00:55:02,960
It's how I hear it.

1621
00:55:03,940 --> 00:55:05,480
And I'm just like, why?

1622
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,280
I mean, but here's the thing about that

1623
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,460
little diatribe he did.

1624
00:55:09,460 --> 00:55:12,020
What's he talking about that the United States

1625
00:55:12,020 --> 00:55:14,560
is the number one child trafficking country in

1626
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,360
the world?

1627
00:55:15,580 --> 00:55:16,820
That may actually be true.

1628
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,020
In what way?

1629
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:21,520
Purveyor, that more kids are trafficked to the

1630
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,240
United States than any other country.

1631
00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:24,860
That's not the way he presents it.

1632
00:55:24,940 --> 00:55:26,800
He says it's us doing it.

1633
00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:28,640
Yes, he didn't say it right.

1634
00:55:28,780 --> 00:55:30,640
But I think what he means is that

1635
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,780
more children are trafficked into the United States

1636
00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:34,980
than out of the other country.

1637
00:55:35,060 --> 00:55:36,000
And we have a big country.

1638
00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:38,340
I don't think China has numbers.

1639
00:55:38,340 --> 00:55:40,700
Also, I think China has enough children of

1640
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:41,860
their own to do stuff with.

1641
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,380
That sounded bad.

1642
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,080
But anyway.

1643
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,080
So but these are typical audience capture.

1644
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,940
Oh, I mean, just go back and look

1645
00:55:51,940 --> 00:55:53,120
at him with expert.

1646
00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:54,540
Oh, we've got an expert marksman.

1647
00:55:54,620 --> 00:55:56,540
He was in the military, and he's going

1648
00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:58,820
to explain the magic bullet that hit Charlie

1649
00:55:58,820 --> 00:55:59,100
Kirk.

1650
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,660
Oh, yeah, this is how it happened.

1651
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,800
That went by the wayside.

1652
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,180
It's all gone away.

1653
00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:07,580
And the leader of this ring is Candace

1654
00:56:07,580 --> 00:56:08,100
Owens.

1655
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:14,280
And actually, she tweeted something that I.

1656
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,960
So wait, you think Candace Owens has more

1657
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,240
influence than Nick Fuentes?

1658
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,540
Oh, yeah.

1659
00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:23,080
Because Nick Fuentes has got the blue hat

1660
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,540
that says America first on it.

1661
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:26,940
Yeah, but but Candace Owens has.

1662
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:31,540
There she's I think what's happening here.

1663
00:56:31,540 --> 00:56:34,700
Let me read what she posted yesterday.

1664
00:56:35,980 --> 00:56:37,560
Should I do the Candace voice?

1665
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,360
I received information last night that put the

1666
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,880
final pieces together for me.

1667
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:43,300
Okay.

1668
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:45,420
I got receipts.

1669
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,360
I now can say with full confidence that

1670
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,920
I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the

1671
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,860
leadership of Turning Point USA and some of

1672
00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:56,920
the very people who eulogized him on stage.

1673
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,560
Yes, I will be naming names and providing

1674
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,740
evidence for my claims.

1675
00:57:01,540 --> 00:57:03,540
And I am making a personal plea to

1676
00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:06,100
every well-meaning person who donated to this

1677
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:09,480
godforsaken organization to request a refund.

1678
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,840
You are lied to and leadership knew.

1679
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,260
So this was responded to by.

1680
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,060
Because Turning Point USA has been very quiet

1681
00:57:23,060 --> 00:57:23,820
for months.

1682
00:57:23,980 --> 00:57:26,360
Well, Candio has been on this this long

1683
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:26,840
rant.

1684
00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:30,240
And Blake Neif, the producer of the Charlie

1685
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,180
Kirk show, responded.

1686
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,280
I can play some of that in a

1687
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:32,500
minute.

1688
00:57:33,140 --> 00:57:36,260
But at the end of his his long

1689
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:39,820
response at the top of yesterday's show, he

1690
00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:41,460
said, we're going to do a live stream.

1691
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,120
And it's set.

1692
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:46,400
He actually posted this on X.

1693
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,820
The live stream we announced on the show

1694
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:49,900
Wednesday has been set 4 p.m. Eastern,

1695
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,060
2 p.m. local time because it's Phoenix,

1696
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,780
Monday, December 15th.

1697
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:56,020
A collection of Charlie's friends will respond to

1698
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:58,080
statements made by at real Candice.

1699
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,380
Oh, to set the record straight once and

1700
00:58:00,380 --> 00:58:00,680
for all.

1701
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,240
Prior to the opening of America Fest, we'll

1702
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,260
be streaming live from Charlie's Phoenix studio.

1703
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,040
Our offer from yesterday holds.

1704
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,960
If Candice wishes to join us in person

1705
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,080
in Phoenix, she is welcome to do so.

1706
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,680
She can let us know by the end

1707
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,160
of the day.

1708
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:15,060
And then Candice replies.

1709
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,600
This is all playing out on X.

1710
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,680
This is fabulous.

1711
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Kind of kind of weird how you didn't

1712
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,540
email or call me to ask about times

1713
00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:26,020
or availability and chose to and said, tweet

1714
00:58:26,020 --> 00:58:27,520
this confirmation out at midnight.

1715
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,880
Why am I learning about this on X?

1716
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,720
December 15th does not work in person.

1717
00:58:33,140 --> 00:58:35,000
And 2 p.m. is also literal time.

1718
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:37,220
I do my podcast live every day, which

1719
00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:39,920
you knew we will happily cancel the daily

1720
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,340
podcast and will join you guys virtually instead

1721
00:58:42,340 --> 00:58:43,840
of the live stream on the 15th.

1722
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,320
If that works on your end.

1723
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,120
So I have to say that it's what

1724
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,140
she of all the things she's claimed, and

1725
00:58:53,140 --> 00:58:54,260
I'd love to play a little bit of

1726
00:58:54,260 --> 00:58:54,540
that.

1727
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,000
The producer guy's claims, because it's pretty funny.

1728
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:00,660
Of all the things she's claimed, it is

1729
00:59:00,660 --> 00:59:03,860
very possible that in an organization like Turning

1730
00:59:03,860 --> 00:59:06,520
Point USA, forget the hundred million dollars a

1731
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,040
year, the political power of that organization is

1732
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,780
worth maybe billions or hundreds of billions.

1733
00:59:13,340 --> 00:59:15,880
Very at the time, at the time of

1734
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,440
electing President Trump, what Turning Point USA did,

1735
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:22,400
and they really turned out.

1736
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,220
I think a lot of the late teen,

1737
00:59:27,340 --> 00:59:29,940
early 20s voters, I think there was that

1738
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:31,020
did make a difference.

1739
00:59:31,300 --> 00:59:34,040
But in general, just the clout of Turning

1740
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,960
Point USA, I can completely see one individual

1741
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,780
or more people within the organization going.

1742
00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:45,020
Hey, man, Charlie's screwing things up because you

1743
00:59:45,020 --> 00:59:48,680
can't go against Israel with an election with

1744
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,000
a campaign apparatus.

1745
00:59:50,140 --> 00:59:51,180
That's not going to work.

1746
00:59:51,620 --> 00:59:53,280
I can see that happening.

1747
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,740
I can see people who had saw all

1748
00:59:56,740 --> 00:59:58,620
this political clout, this power.

1749
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,680
There's all kinds of people that were hanging

1750
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,840
around the organization.

1751
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,820
I'm going to say that's the most reasonable

1752
01:00:04,820 --> 01:00:08,280
things that she said in a long time.

1753
01:00:10,780 --> 01:00:13,420
Of course, it could also just be that

1754
01:00:13,420 --> 01:00:16,900
she is doing this with an already destabilized

1755
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:19,420
Turning Point USA to kill it.

1756
01:00:21,020 --> 01:00:23,580
She could be an op for someone who

1757
01:00:23,580 --> 01:00:24,440
is against Trump.

1758
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,200
I mean, she certainly seems against Trump.

1759
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,520
So anything is possible.

1760
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:30,740
But that's finally something she said there that

1761
01:00:30,740 --> 01:00:31,320
made sense.

1762
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,820
I'll just let this run until we're tired

1763
01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:34,120
of it.

1764
01:00:34,180 --> 01:00:36,860
This guy runs down all of the nutty

1765
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:40,300
things Candio has said in the past few

1766
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:40,580
months.

1767
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:42,480
And I've heard, I think, every single one

1768
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:42,740
of them.

1769
01:00:42,820 --> 01:00:44,160
So he's not exaggerating.

1770
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
We wanted to use this segment at the

1771
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,440
top of this hour to say something important,

1772
01:00:49,540 --> 01:00:50,520
something very important.

1773
01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:52,740
For the past two and a half months,

1774
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:55,180
there is a topic that has flooded our

1775
01:00:55,180 --> 01:00:55,880
freedom inbox.

1776
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,600
It has been nonstop on social media, but

1777
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,040
which we have almost totally avoided on this

1778
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,300
show.

1779
01:01:01,460 --> 01:01:04,160
You probably already know what I'm talking about.

1780
01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:04,820
Wait, wait, wait.

1781
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:05,220
Who is this?

1782
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,840
This is the producer of the Charlie Kirk

1783
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,700
show because the show continues.

1784
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:11,280
They just have guest hosts come in.

1785
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,820
Yeah, okay.

1786
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,960
How ubiquitous it has been.

1787
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,900
Ever since Charlie's murder, Candice Owens has leveled

1788
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:21,940
a flood of allegations against people at Turning

1789
01:01:21,940 --> 01:01:25,220
Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and

1790
01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:27,100
people who work for this show.

1791
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,360
She's made them against some of Charlie's closest

1792
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,620
friends and against some of his most dedicated

1793
01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:32,460
employees.

1794
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,940
She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief

1795
01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:38,740
of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was

1796
01:01:38,740 --> 01:01:41,400
happy that he died, and stayed silent because

1797
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,080
he was told he would be the next

1798
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:43,560
Charlie.

1799
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:46,000
She has suggested that Michael is not his

1800
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,560
real name.

1801
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:48,640
It is, I have seen his birth certificate

1802
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,120
myself.

1803
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,420
She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife,

1804
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,780
who works at Turning Point, helped plan the

1805
01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:57,180
campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which

1806
01:01:57,180 --> 01:01:59,260
she didn't, by the way, she doesn't work

1807
01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:00,100
on campus events.

1808
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:03,840
Candice has suggested the Utah Valley University event

1809
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,620
was unusual and its details suggested a inside

1810
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:08,500
job.

1811
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,560
She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed

1812
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,880
Erica Kirk around the country, and that Turning

1813
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,000
Point has lied about this happening.

1814
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:18,800
She has accused us of lying about Charlie

1815
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,440
wanting Erica to take over for him if

1816
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:21,940
he died.

1817
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,140
She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied

1818
01:02:26,140 --> 01:02:29,000
him first aid after the shooting to ensure

1819
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:29,620
that he died.

1820
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,940
She has raised suspicions about the head of

1821
01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:34,780
our technical team because he took an SD

1822
01:02:34,780 --> 01:02:36,280
card out of a camera.

1823
01:02:36,780 --> 01:02:39,980
She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer,

1824
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,180
who we just had on the show, sexually

1825
01:02:42,180 --> 01:02:43,740
abuses male interns.

1826
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,700
She has suggested that TPUSA Faith-affiliated pastors

1827
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:50,080
like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on

1828
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,500
in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are

1829
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:56,300
part of a military, quote, infiltration of Turning

1830
01:02:56,300 --> 01:02:58,860
Point, either because they are veterans or because

1831
01:02:58,860 --> 01:03:00,380
they have family members who are.

1832
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,540
Even if not everyone has been named specifically

1833
01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:07,420
though, Candice has effectively tarred everyone here with

1834
01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:10,460
complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying-

1835
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,220
So he goes on for seven minutes.

1836
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,420
I'll put it in the show notes.

1837
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,480
So she goes on- It's entertaining.

1838
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:18,400
Oh, it's very entertaining.

1839
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,320
But we have to remember one thing.

1840
01:03:21,140 --> 01:03:24,140
Her husband, what would you say he is?

1841
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:27,250
Oh, I forgot.

1842
01:03:27,390 --> 01:03:31,010
He's a white guy who's, he's part of

1843
01:03:31,010 --> 01:03:35,710
your favorite group, the Nexus from, he's a

1844
01:03:35,710 --> 01:03:37,850
UK, he's a Lord or something like that.

1845
01:03:37,850 --> 01:03:38,890
His dad is a Lord.

1846
01:03:39,130 --> 01:03:40,370
His dad's a Lord, right.

1847
01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:42,150
And when you saw Candice's husband, the first

1848
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:43,330
thing you said was he's gay.

1849
01:03:43,710 --> 01:03:44,830
That's the first thing you said.

1850
01:03:46,050 --> 01:03:47,410
Then that guy is nowhere- Are you

1851
01:03:47,410 --> 01:03:49,430
accusing me of saying that the first thing

1852
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:50,630
I said when, as soon as I saw

1853
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:52,390
that guy, I said that guy's gay?

1854
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:53,890
Yes, I'm not accusing you.

1855
01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:55,870
You're accusing me.

1856
01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:57,230
It happened on this show.

1857
01:03:58,490 --> 01:04:00,970
But, you know, British guy and- He

1858
01:04:00,970 --> 01:04:01,370
looks gay.

1859
01:04:01,490 --> 01:04:04,350
And he's involved in banking with the Dutch

1860
01:04:04,350 --> 01:04:04,890
banks.

1861
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:10,530
He has so much British stuff going on

1862
01:04:10,530 --> 01:04:10,810
here.

1863
01:04:10,970 --> 01:04:12,530
Yeah, he's British.

1864
01:04:12,890 --> 01:04:15,990
That does not, well, but from a lordship,

1865
01:04:16,070 --> 01:04:17,230
you know, from peerage.

1866
01:04:17,970 --> 01:04:18,850
Yeah, peerage British.

1867
01:04:19,090 --> 01:04:20,590
He's part of the system.

1868
01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:21,270
Yes.

1869
01:04:21,730 --> 01:04:24,250
So this guy- Yeah, the royal system

1870
01:04:24,250 --> 01:04:26,690
that's all over the world, even though you

1871
01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:28,010
like to isolate it.

1872
01:04:28,070 --> 01:04:28,230
Yeah.

1873
01:04:28,250 --> 01:04:29,510
You want to hear more of this guy's

1874
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:30,390
accusation?

1875
01:04:30,410 --> 01:04:31,770
Oh, a couple, just a little bit.

1876
01:04:31,770 --> 01:04:32,370
A little bit more?

1877
01:04:32,370 --> 01:04:36,550
He was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone.

1878
01:04:36,790 --> 01:04:39,490
She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to

1879
01:04:39,490 --> 01:04:42,450
be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested

1880
01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:45,170
those friends might have her murdered too for,

1881
01:04:45,610 --> 01:04:47,130
quote, knowing the truth.

1882
01:04:47,830 --> 01:04:51,110
She's made claims of financial impropriety and fraud

1883
01:04:51,110 --> 01:04:53,270
at turning point, adding up into the millions

1884
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:55,930
of dollars, which again is not true.

1885
01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:58,730
Charlie made sure the organization was audited by

1886
01:04:58,730 --> 01:05:00,290
a third party every year.

1887
01:05:00,290 --> 01:05:02,950
He personally reviewed and he signed off on

1888
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:06,050
every expense report and- It goes on.

1889
01:05:06,130 --> 01:05:08,450
But remember, she said Israel had killed him

1890
01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:10,630
and, you know, and she's still on the

1891
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:12,410
hit list from the Macron's.

1892
01:05:12,550 --> 01:05:13,850
Oh, yeah, she's on the hit list.

1893
01:05:14,110 --> 01:05:16,130
Yeah, I mean- Because Macron and I

1894
01:05:16,130 --> 01:05:18,010
forgot who's ganged up.

1895
01:05:18,190 --> 01:05:25,250
They're going to- So, you know, like,

1896
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:29,710
again, I think turning point is done.

1897
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:34,750
I mean, whether they realize it or not,

1898
01:05:34,830 --> 01:05:36,910
but Charlie Kirk was turning point USA.

1899
01:05:37,110 --> 01:05:38,230
No Charlie Kirk.

1900
01:05:38,250 --> 01:05:41,490
No, he's the charismatic leader, that high order

1901
01:05:41,490 --> 01:05:41,910
charismatic.

1902
01:05:42,070 --> 01:05:43,390
This is not a slouch.

1903
01:05:43,690 --> 01:05:43,850
No.

1904
01:05:44,010 --> 01:05:48,330
This is a high order charismatic leader that

1905
01:05:48,330 --> 01:05:50,710
was running the thing and keeping it together

1906
01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:54,250
just because of his, you know, this is

1907
01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:55,750
aura to do it.

1908
01:05:55,850 --> 01:05:57,790
He could manage to do it.

1909
01:05:57,790 --> 01:05:59,250
This is like one of those guys like

1910
01:05:59,250 --> 01:06:01,290
Elon Musk is a little bit like this.

1911
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:04,390
And he gets people to do stuff.

1912
01:06:04,810 --> 01:06:06,750
And OK, I'd rather work for him than,

1913
01:06:06,850 --> 01:06:07,790
you know, anything else.

1914
01:06:08,270 --> 01:06:10,910
And once he's gone, which is the idea,

1915
01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:12,530
it's called, you know, taking out the head

1916
01:06:12,530 --> 01:06:15,150
of the snake and it's over.

1917
01:06:15,310 --> 01:06:16,750
And yeah, it could linger.

1918
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:18,130
It could become something else.

1919
01:06:18,130 --> 01:06:19,730
But it's not going to be what it

1920
01:06:19,730 --> 01:06:21,450
was, where it was headed.

1921
01:06:21,710 --> 01:06:21,810
No.

1922
01:06:21,810 --> 01:06:27,690
So whatever's going on, if somehow it turns

1923
01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:29,330
out, I mean, she could be right.

1924
01:06:29,450 --> 01:06:30,170
She could be right.

1925
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:31,610
She says she's got names.

1926
01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:32,490
She's got evidence.

1927
01:06:32,570 --> 01:06:33,290
She's got proof.

1928
01:06:33,410 --> 01:06:33,630
OK.

1929
01:06:34,510 --> 01:06:35,150
I mean, I've been waiting.

1930
01:06:35,790 --> 01:06:36,750
She's got receipts.

1931
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:38,230
I mean, ours is receipts.

1932
01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:39,730
When did that crop up, by the way?

1933
01:06:39,970 --> 01:06:41,530
Everybody, I've got receipts.

1934
01:06:43,410 --> 01:06:44,650
That's for your taxes.

1935
01:06:44,970 --> 01:06:45,830
What do you mean you get receipts?

1936
01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:47,350
That's been going on for a while.

1937
01:06:47,590 --> 01:06:50,090
That's but she kind of revived it.

1938
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:51,270
I've got the receipts.

1939
01:06:51,970 --> 01:06:54,190
Yeah, that's been a thing for a while.

1940
01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:57,590
You know, people say that no agenda show

1941
01:06:57,590 --> 01:06:58,210
current of work.

1942
01:06:58,310 --> 01:07:00,330
They got the receipts, which I think means

1943
01:07:00,330 --> 01:07:00,730
clips.

1944
01:07:00,730 --> 01:07:01,450
I'm not sure.

1945
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:03,310
We got plenty of clips.

1946
01:07:03,330 --> 01:07:04,150
We got clips, man.

1947
01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:04,790
We got clips.

1948
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:07,490
But it's it's I do not deem it

1949
01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:10,610
impossible, although how she got from Egyptian Air

1950
01:07:10,610 --> 01:07:15,450
Force dropping off a hitman to to Turning

1951
01:07:15,450 --> 01:07:19,690
Point USA being responsible, that that makes no

1952
01:07:19,690 --> 01:07:20,010
sense.

1953
01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:21,150
Sometimes you got to.

1954
01:07:21,290 --> 01:07:24,150
She takes a shotgun approach or scattergun, we

1955
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:24,770
could call it.

1956
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:27,850
Yeah, she just well, she has the CIA,

1957
01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:29,910
the Candace Intelligence Agency.

1958
01:07:30,170 --> 01:07:31,650
You know, it's her version of boots on

1959
01:07:31,650 --> 01:07:34,610
the ground, except I think hers are nut

1960
01:07:34,610 --> 01:07:35,030
jobs.

1961
01:07:36,210 --> 01:07:37,890
And I look what I found.

1962
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:38,890
Oh, yes, is good.

1963
01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:40,930
Where we have people.

1964
01:07:40,990 --> 01:07:42,050
Hey, I did a documentary.

1965
01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:43,690
You have jobs, too, but we just don't

1966
01:07:43,690 --> 01:07:44,410
read their stuff.

1967
01:07:44,570 --> 01:07:46,210
No, we read the good ones.

1968
01:07:46,250 --> 01:07:47,250
We got lots of good ones.

1969
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:48,850
Well, when the nut jobs are funny.

1970
01:07:48,930 --> 01:07:49,270
Yeah.

1971
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:50,570
Well, obviously.

1972
01:07:51,130 --> 01:07:54,110
But it's very possible that that there was

1973
01:07:54,110 --> 01:07:57,570
a coup from inside Turning Point USA.

1974
01:07:58,330 --> 01:08:00,170
Now, it doesn't explain a lot of things.

1975
01:08:00,290 --> 01:08:02,830
And, of course, ever since covid, why would

1976
01:08:02,830 --> 01:08:03,830
we trust our government?

1977
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:06,450
Nobody trusts the government anyway in any country.

1978
01:08:06,550 --> 01:08:07,650
Anyone who's smart.

1979
01:08:08,090 --> 01:08:09,110
It's like, no, you lied.

1980
01:08:09,330 --> 01:08:10,530
We don't trust you anymore.

1981
01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:13,990
But but people say there's been no autopsy.

1982
01:08:14,410 --> 01:08:16,490
All of this comes out in court.

1983
01:08:17,290 --> 01:08:20,370
That it's you don't release this kind of

1984
01:08:20,370 --> 01:08:21,130
it's called.

1985
01:08:23,029 --> 01:08:24,069
Witness tampering.

1986
01:08:24,270 --> 01:08:25,910
Even I think at some point it pollutes

1987
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:28,490
it pollutes the the public.

1988
01:08:28,689 --> 01:08:31,649
If you put information out before the trial,

1989
01:08:31,790 --> 01:08:32,490
the jury pool.

1990
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:32,830
Yeah.

1991
01:08:33,770 --> 01:08:36,390
And so that's why it will all come

1992
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:36,670
out.

1993
01:08:36,670 --> 01:08:38,490
And there is an autopsy report.

1994
01:08:38,609 --> 01:08:40,410
And, you know, how come we don't know

1995
01:08:40,410 --> 01:08:41,149
where he was buried?

1996
01:08:41,330 --> 01:08:44,510
Well, I was like, oh, it's almost like

1997
01:08:44,510 --> 01:08:45,170
Mangione.

1998
01:08:45,170 --> 01:08:47,729
We're just now just now.

1999
01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:50,229
How long ago was the Mangione thing?

2000
01:08:51,569 --> 01:08:52,830
A year ago.

2001
01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:55,430
Just now it's coming to trial and things

2002
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:55,990
are coming out.

2003
01:08:56,090 --> 01:08:57,609
I have a 30 second update just as

2004
01:08:57,609 --> 01:08:58,510
an intermezzo.

2005
01:08:58,710 --> 01:09:00,630
Well, the man charged with murdering United Healthcare

2006
01:09:00,630 --> 01:09:03,410
CEO on the streets of Manhattan was back

2007
01:09:03,410 --> 01:09:05,310
in a New York City courtroom today for

2008
01:09:05,310 --> 01:09:06,050
a second day.

2009
01:09:06,370 --> 01:09:08,450
Twenty seven year old Luigi Mangione is charged

2010
01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:11,029
with killing Brian Thompson last December.

2011
01:09:11,029 --> 01:09:13,370
The former Penn Grads lawyers are trying to

2012
01:09:13,370 --> 01:09:15,609
get evidence against him thrown out.

2013
01:09:15,770 --> 01:09:18,890
That includes items found in Mangione's backpack when

2014
01:09:18,890 --> 01:09:20,910
he was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona,

2015
01:09:21,029 --> 01:09:21,410
Pennsylvania.

2016
01:09:22,029 --> 01:09:24,210
They also want the 911 call that led

2017
01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:25,689
to his capture tossed.

2018
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:28,510
Mangione has pleaded not guilty.

2019
01:09:28,850 --> 01:09:30,109
Not guilty plea.

2020
01:09:30,990 --> 01:09:32,210
That is interesting.

2021
01:09:33,569 --> 01:09:34,670
I didn't do it.

2022
01:09:35,069 --> 01:09:35,729
Not guilty.

2023
01:09:37,250 --> 01:09:38,990
And then that just.

2024
01:09:38,990 --> 01:09:43,529
So I look at my timeline and my

2025
01:09:43,529 --> 01:09:47,330
notifications on X, I see like something really

2026
01:09:47,330 --> 01:09:49,750
nice happened and was kind of a local

2027
01:09:49,750 --> 01:09:51,229
story to Austin, at least.

2028
01:09:51,770 --> 01:09:53,130
Something really nice happened.

2029
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:55,310
And then I'll tell you what people had

2030
01:09:55,310 --> 01:09:56,370
to say about it.

2031
01:09:56,610 --> 01:09:59,470
The couple that founded Dell Technologies, Michael and

2032
01:09:59,470 --> 01:10:02,050
Susan Dell, have announced a six billion dollar

2033
01:10:02,050 --> 01:10:05,290
donation toward new investment accounts for children proposed

2034
01:10:05,290 --> 01:10:06,690
by the Trump administration.

2035
01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:09,490
The Invest America accounts will launch next year.

2036
01:10:09,890 --> 01:10:12,190
The Treasury Department says it'll put $1,000

2037
01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:15,430
in the accounts of at least 25 million

2038
01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:15,950
children.

2039
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:18,010
The money donated by the Dells will be

2040
01:10:18,010 --> 01:10:19,650
for kids 10 years and younger.

2041
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:23,070
They'll be eligible to receive $250 each.

2042
01:10:23,630 --> 01:10:26,090
The Dells say they're investing in children because

2043
01:10:26,090 --> 01:10:27,830
they are our future.

2044
01:10:28,290 --> 01:10:29,750
So it's a total of six and a

2045
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:31,030
half billion dollars.

2046
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:33,870
And it's kind of a cool idea, these

2047
01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:37,450
America investment accounts, which, you know, I think

2048
01:10:37,450 --> 01:10:39,490
the president calls them Trump accounts, but it's

2049
01:10:39,490 --> 01:10:42,250
really called invest invest in America accounts.

2050
01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:45,750
So the Dells, they say, you know, we're

2051
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:48,450
going to put in $250 per child, 10

2052
01:10:48,450 --> 01:10:50,470
years younger, 25 million children.

2053
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:52,510
It'll cost us six and a half billion

2054
01:10:52,510 --> 01:10:53,870
minimum, they said, at least.

2055
01:10:54,670 --> 01:10:57,270
And they said, hey, rich people, you should

2056
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:57,910
do the same.

2057
01:10:58,230 --> 01:11:02,150
And all anybody could talk about is Dell's

2058
01:11:02,150 --> 01:11:02,570
wife.

2059
01:11:03,170 --> 01:11:04,890
That's got to be a dude.

2060
01:11:04,890 --> 01:11:06,090
That's a dude.

2061
01:11:06,210 --> 01:11:06,730
That's a dude.

2062
01:11:06,890 --> 01:11:07,790
What's up with that?

2063
01:11:07,870 --> 01:11:08,970
What's up with her eyes?

2064
01:11:10,370 --> 01:11:13,410
It's like that to me is astounding.

2065
01:11:14,230 --> 01:11:16,050
No one talks about the money.

2066
01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:17,710
It's just she looks like a dude.

2067
01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:19,410
Have you ever met Michael Dell's wife, Susan?

2068
01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:21,190
No, I never have.

2069
01:11:21,730 --> 01:11:23,490
And I know Michael, but I never met

2070
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:23,950
his wife.

2071
01:11:24,090 --> 01:11:25,670
But she, if you look at her pictures,

2072
01:11:26,110 --> 01:11:29,870
she had an eye operation.

2073
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:31,630
She had an eye job.

2074
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:34,310
And I don't know if she used a

2075
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:36,450
Texas person or who it was.

2076
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:37,670
Cattle rancher.

2077
01:11:38,150 --> 01:11:39,310
A cattle rancher.

2078
01:11:39,610 --> 01:11:41,630
But if you look at older pictures of

2079
01:11:41,630 --> 01:11:43,570
her when she was a brunette, especially, she

2080
01:11:43,570 --> 01:11:45,470
was a skinny, she's thin.

2081
01:11:45,810 --> 01:11:47,910
And her eyes are kind of closed.

2082
01:11:48,110 --> 01:11:49,630
They were kind of like, they were not

2083
01:11:49,630 --> 01:11:51,850
a bug eyed look.

2084
01:11:52,030 --> 01:11:54,770
She had normal looking eyes of a kind

2085
01:11:54,770 --> 01:11:56,390
of, you know, they were normal looking.

2086
01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:57,650
If you looked at her, you said, that's

2087
01:11:57,650 --> 01:11:58,370
normal looking.

2088
01:11:58,370 --> 01:12:01,210
She didn't have the big, beautiful eyes or

2089
01:12:01,210 --> 01:12:01,930
that sort of thing.

2090
01:12:02,230 --> 01:12:03,910
And I guess she wanted the big, beautiful

2091
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:04,410
eyes.

2092
01:12:04,830 --> 01:12:07,070
And so somebody did an operation on her

2093
01:12:07,070 --> 01:12:08,950
and they bugged her eyes out.

2094
01:12:09,050 --> 01:12:10,270
She looks like a freak.

2095
01:12:10,490 --> 01:12:11,990
I feel bad about it.

2096
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:13,330
I know, me too.

2097
01:12:13,630 --> 01:12:15,350
It's obvious what happened there.

2098
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:17,670
But, you know, the world we live in

2099
01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:21,470
today is just, man, what is that?

2100
01:12:23,170 --> 01:12:26,130
Yeah, people should recognize what it is and

2101
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:26,750
what happened.

2102
01:12:27,150 --> 01:12:28,870
It's like the same to people that have

2103
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:30,250
that buccal fat removed.

2104
01:12:30,830 --> 01:12:32,330
You know, you see that and it's like,

2105
01:12:32,410 --> 01:12:33,730
oh, my God, why did you do that

2106
01:12:33,730 --> 01:12:34,390
to yourself?

2107
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:37,110
Because some doctor convinced him it was a

2108
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:38,850
good idea because it makes your face look

2109
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:41,710
a little more gaunt, less round, which it

2110
01:12:41,710 --> 01:12:42,110
does.

2111
01:12:42,210 --> 01:12:44,050
But it also makes you look like a

2112
01:12:44,050 --> 01:12:47,530
ghoul if you're thin at all.

2113
01:12:47,690 --> 01:12:49,530
She should have come by the Curry Dvorak

2114
01:12:49,530 --> 01:12:50,310
consulting group.

2115
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:51,550
We could have given her some of that.

2116
01:12:51,550 --> 01:12:55,030
I can just hear the surgeon saying, within

2117
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:56,770
10 days, you'll be restaurant ready.

2118
01:12:57,010 --> 01:12:57,770
It's going to be great.

2119
01:12:58,090 --> 01:12:58,610
Don't worry.

2120
01:12:58,950 --> 01:13:00,430
Some bruising, you'll be fine.

2121
01:13:01,290 --> 01:13:02,110
Those guys lie.

2122
01:13:02,450 --> 01:13:03,390
Some bruising, you'll be fine.

2123
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:05,750
Now she's bug eyed and looks like a

2124
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:06,050
freak.

2125
01:13:06,190 --> 01:13:07,590
My fight is the shame.

2126
01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:08,530
I just love that.

2127
01:13:08,590 --> 01:13:09,610
You'll be restaurant ready.

2128
01:13:09,810 --> 01:13:11,790
Yeah, candlelight, maybe.

2129
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:17,070
Anyway, so the president had his four hour

2130
01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:20,990
board meeting, which is another thing that, you

2131
01:13:20,990 --> 01:13:24,350
know, you get one snippet on the news.

2132
01:13:24,710 --> 01:13:26,710
It's really interesting to watch that.

2133
01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:29,190
And a couple of things that I wanted

2134
01:13:29,190 --> 01:13:29,630
to highlight.

2135
01:13:29,770 --> 01:13:31,810
The first was the labor secretary who was

2136
01:13:31,810 --> 01:13:33,810
doing exactly what you and I said should

2137
01:13:33,810 --> 01:13:35,070
be happening in America.

2138
01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:37,770
So the Labor Department has wasted no time

2139
01:13:37,770 --> 01:13:40,510
in putting that into action with our Make

2140
01:13:40,510 --> 01:13:43,810
America Skilled Again either grant dollars, but the

2141
01:13:43,810 --> 01:13:47,370
intentionality of the apprenticeship program, 1 million active

2142
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:49,030
apprentices across this country.

2143
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:52,550
We have done over 250,000 new apprentices

2144
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:55,290
so far in the first year and registered

2145
01:13:55,290 --> 01:13:59,070
over 2,000 new apprenticeship programs.

2146
01:13:59,690 --> 01:14:01,850
Why do we need the apprenticeship programs with

2147
01:14:01,850 --> 01:14:03,110
the men and women in the trades?

2148
01:14:03,290 --> 01:14:06,330
Because of the leadership of on-shoring and

2149
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:08,070
re-shoring and have a lot of these

2150
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:10,130
companies reinvest in America.

2151
01:14:10,370 --> 01:14:12,250
We have to build this country.

2152
01:14:12,470 --> 01:14:14,550
We cannot do that without the tradesmen and

2153
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:16,810
women and the craftsmen of this country.

2154
01:14:16,930 --> 01:14:18,490
And I think that, you know, Howard and

2155
01:14:18,490 --> 01:14:20,170
I, we talked about that from the beginning

2156
01:14:20,170 --> 01:14:22,170
and we're going to have to lean in

2157
01:14:22,170 --> 01:14:24,170
on that because we need the labor for

2158
01:14:24,170 --> 01:14:28,270
700,000 new skilled jobs with electricians, construction

2159
01:14:28,270 --> 01:14:31,010
workers, machinists, and so forth.

2160
01:14:31,730 --> 01:14:34,230
Attention Gen Z-ers who listen to this

2161
01:14:34,230 --> 01:14:34,590
show.

2162
01:14:35,210 --> 01:14:36,270
There's a future.

2163
01:14:38,750 --> 01:14:42,530
700,000 electricians, machinists, welders.

2164
01:14:43,170 --> 01:14:45,990
Those aren't going to be good paying union

2165
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:46,410
jobs.

2166
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:48,090
They're going to be money in the bank

2167
01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:52,250
because all of this manufacturing is coming back.

2168
01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:56,030
No one seems to care, strangely.

2169
01:14:57,170 --> 01:14:58,490
I'm blown away by it.

2170
01:14:58,570 --> 01:15:00,990
I'm like, we've always said, what happened to

2171
01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:01,630
apprenticeships?

2172
01:15:01,770 --> 01:15:03,550
These are paid apprenticeships too.

2173
01:15:04,230 --> 01:15:06,570
You get paid to learn and you can

2174
01:15:06,570 --> 01:15:09,170
go on and do $150,000, $200,000

2175
01:15:09,170 --> 01:15:09,850
a year.

2176
01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:10,630
This is amazing.

2177
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:12,310
By the way, I got a note from

2178
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:15,370
Nolan about another thing Gen Z-ers can't

2179
01:15:15,370 --> 01:15:15,650
do.

2180
01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:16,930
Oh, okay.

2181
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:17,890
We should be on the list.

2182
01:15:18,270 --> 01:15:18,530
Okay.

2183
01:15:18,710 --> 01:15:20,930
He says, I thought this was relevant to

2184
01:15:20,930 --> 01:15:22,850
reading clock and Florida ounces.

2185
01:15:23,710 --> 01:15:25,810
Two co-workers recently stopped me in the

2186
01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:29,170
hallway to ask me how to strike matches.

2187
01:15:30,370 --> 01:15:32,250
Every time we try to light them, they

2188
01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:33,350
break, they said.

2189
01:15:33,470 --> 01:15:35,810
I showed them the proper technique, then stole

2190
01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:36,370
their matches.

2191
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:39,890
So isn't that interesting?

2192
01:15:39,890 --> 01:15:41,530
Don't know how to strike a match.

2193
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:44,670
I can see that.

2194
01:15:48,580 --> 01:15:51,000
Well, there's no such thing as a matchbook

2195
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:51,540
anymore.

2196
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,380
And so you had to buy those big

2197
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:56,360
stick matches in a box.

2198
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,420
I think matchbooks are still a thing.

2199
01:15:58,420 --> 01:16:00,440
I haven't seen a matchbook for five, 10

2200
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:00,860
years.

2201
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,100
Well, you don't get out much.

2202
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,600
I mean, I get out enough to find

2203
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,240
a matchbook.

2204
01:16:06,260 --> 01:16:08,040
I've not seen a matchbook for five or

2205
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:08,460
10 years.

2206
01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:10,220
When's the last time you bought some cigarettes?

2207
01:16:10,220 --> 01:16:11,880
They don't even sell those as much.

2208
01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:13,500
But if you buy cigarettes, they still give

2209
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:14,760
you a matchbook.

2210
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:16,700
Well, I don't buy cigarettes.

2211
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:17,400
No, there you go.

2212
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:18,260
There you go.

2213
01:16:18,460 --> 01:16:19,100
There you go.

2214
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,800
But then the bombshell bombshell bombshell.

2215
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,820
Wait, do you have a bombshell?

2216
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,840
Where's the bombshell?

2217
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,640
I don't have a bombshell.

2218
01:16:26,980 --> 01:16:30,440
The bombshell was the snap benefits.

2219
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,820
Holy moly.

2220
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,900
Remember how we were surprised about how much

2221
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:34,340
was it?

2222
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,440
$80 billion.

2223
01:16:35,980 --> 01:16:37,780
It was a ridiculous high number.

2224
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,400
$80 billion.

2225
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,200
Well, guess what?

2226
01:16:40,460 --> 01:16:41,780
We have so much great things to talk

2227
01:16:41,780 --> 01:16:42,520
about at USDA.

2228
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,340
But the third thing which became very much

2229
01:16:45,340 --> 01:16:47,520
a part of the national conversation during the

2230
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,600
Democrat shutdown was snap reform, food stamp reform.

2231
01:16:51,820 --> 01:16:54,920
When all of America saw what so many

2232
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,780
of us know and have been working on.

2233
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,480
But when you have so much rampant fraud

2234
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:02,380
in a program that 42 million Americans participate

2235
01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:02,760
in.

2236
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,920
Now, big, good piece of news that I

2237
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:05,740
hope is written about.

2238
01:17:05,740 --> 01:17:08,860
Since you became president, about 800,000 of

2239
01:17:08,860 --> 01:17:10,820
those 42 million have moved off of food

2240
01:17:10,820 --> 01:17:13,300
stamps, which is hopefully the plan with better

2241
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:15,140
jobs, higher wages, etc.

2242
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:18,980
But still, when we found 186,000 dead

2243
01:17:18,980 --> 01:17:21,980
people or dead people's social security numbers being

2244
01:17:21,980 --> 01:17:26,680
used, 500,000 people receiving benefits more than

2245
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:27,060
twice.

2246
01:17:27,460 --> 01:17:29,440
We had a couple of people receiving benefits

2247
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:30,440
in six states.

2248
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,540
In February of this year, we asked for

2249
01:17:32,540 --> 01:17:35,180
all the states for the first time to

2250
01:17:35,180 --> 01:17:37,560
turn over their data to the federal government.

2251
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,260
To let the USDA partner with them to

2252
01:17:40,260 --> 01:17:41,580
root out this fraud.

2253
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:43,240
To make sure that those who really need

2254
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,380
food stamps are getting them.

2255
01:17:44,620 --> 01:17:46,540
But also to ensure that the American taxpayer

2256
01:17:46,540 --> 01:17:47,460
is protected.

2257
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,180
21 states said yes, not surprised.

2258
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,520
29 states said yes, not surprisingly, the red

2259
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:52,880
states.

2260
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,020
And that's where all of that data, that

2261
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:55,820
fraud comes from.

2262
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,780
But 21 states, including California, New York and

2263
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:03,500
Minnesota, the blue states, continue to say no.

2264
01:18:03,500 --> 01:18:06,980
So as of next week, we have begun

2265
01:18:06,980 --> 01:18:10,160
and will begin to stop moving federal funds

2266
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,000
into those states until they comply.

2267
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,120
And they tell us and allow us to

2268
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,240
partner with them to root out this fraud

2269
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,520
and to protect the American taxpayer.

2270
01:18:18,780 --> 01:18:20,820
As Joe Biden was working to buy an

2271
01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:23,860
election a year ago, he increased food stamp

2272
01:18:23,860 --> 01:18:26,880
program funding by 40 percent.

2273
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,160
So now as we continue to roll that

2274
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:29,520
back.

2275
01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:31,720
Duh, isn't that interesting?

2276
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:32,880
Unbelievable.

2277
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,180
40 percent increase and the blue states don't

2278
01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:37,420
want to give their data.

2279
01:18:37,700 --> 01:18:38,160
Okay.

2280
01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:40,960
No, that's typical.

2281
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:41,600
Yeah.

2282
01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:43,720
I didn't see that report on the news.

2283
01:18:44,500 --> 01:18:45,800
I wonder why.

2284
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:47,720
I didn't see it anywhere on the news.

2285
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,080
I'm not sure what happened.

2286
01:18:50,380 --> 01:18:52,540
But they must have overlooked it in the

2287
01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:55,920
editorial meeting when they decide to omit stories

2288
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,100
on purpose because it reflects poorly on the

2289
01:18:59,100 --> 01:18:59,500
Democrats.

2290
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:01,340
And they might not do as well as

2291
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:03,100
they could do in the midterms.

2292
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,940
And the news media is in on it.

2293
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,660
Nah, get out of town.

2294
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,080
Nah, that's not possible.

2295
01:19:09,820 --> 01:19:10,820
That can't be.

2296
01:19:12,460 --> 01:19:13,800
I have some clips.

2297
01:19:13,940 --> 01:19:15,880
I have immigration crackdown clips.

2298
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:17,320
I have McGregor.

2299
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,520
I have Colonel McGregor's analysis of you.

2300
01:19:21,620 --> 01:19:22,980
Well, if you're going to bring the McGregor

2301
01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:24,520
clips in, that's when we get to play

2302
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,900
dot MP3 dot MP3.

2303
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,040
Do we play that first?

2304
01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:29,220
No, no, no.

2305
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:29,940
OK.

2306
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:32,700
This is an analysis that McGregor goes on

2307
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:34,680
this show called the something, something to some

2308
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,800
some fat guys.

2309
01:19:37,420 --> 01:19:40,420
Is a does a thing called something, something

2310
01:19:40,420 --> 01:19:41,200
deep dive.

2311
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:42,680
No, McGregor's on the show.

2312
01:19:42,740 --> 01:19:44,000
This show is on YouTube.

2313
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,340
It has all of 30K listeners.

2314
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,580
And of course, McGregor won't do an interview

2315
01:19:48,580 --> 01:19:51,060
with us with a million list.

2316
01:19:51,260 --> 01:19:52,200
No, I'm not with you.

2317
01:19:52,340 --> 01:19:53,180
Not with you.

2318
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:54,320
Because, well, whatever.

2319
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:55,900
He didn't like your approach, man.

2320
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,060
Didn't like your approach.

2321
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,580
He's a stick in the mud, but he

2322
01:20:00,580 --> 01:20:02,380
still has good stuff to a point.

2323
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,380
He does not recognize that sales.

2324
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,240
The salesmanship of Donald Trump, his analysis is

2325
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,060
good, though, and he brings in some he

2326
01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:15,120
brings in a perspective that is enjoyable to

2327
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,000
listen to, because it is a little it

2328
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,420
comes in from a different angle.

2329
01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:20,700
And this is McGregor analysis of the war.

2330
01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:22,960
What do you make of that charge that

2331
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,620
the Europe and Ukraine are trying to sabotage

2332
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:27,820
Trump's 28 point peace plan to put poison

2333
01:20:27,820 --> 01:20:29,700
pills in that they know Russia won't accept?

2334
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,880
Well, the peace plan is no peace plan.

2335
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,640
It's got lots of poison pills in it

2336
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:33,940
anyway.

2337
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:36,000
So I think that's dead on arrival.

2338
01:20:36,180 --> 01:20:39,000
Let's understand what Kushner and Whitkoff are about.

2339
01:20:39,180 --> 01:20:42,220
They're trying to salvage something for President Trump.

2340
01:20:42,580 --> 01:20:44,560
President Trump wants to be able to declare

2341
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,100
a victory for President Trump.

2342
01:20:46,340 --> 01:20:48,500
This has nothing to do with Ukraine as

2343
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:49,280
far as he's concerned.

2344
01:20:49,340 --> 01:20:50,240
He could care less.

2345
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,680
He's already abdicated his responsibility for leadership in

2346
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:55,400
Europe and NATO.

2347
01:20:55,820 --> 01:20:58,180
So apparently he doesn't have the authority that

2348
01:20:58,180 --> 01:21:00,180
he needs from his backers in New York

2349
01:21:00,180 --> 01:21:02,820
City and the city of London to move

2350
01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:03,940
forward to really do anything.

2351
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:05,000
So what is he doing?

2352
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,840
He sent Kushner and Whitkoff to go over

2353
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,220
there and say, look, Mr. Putin, we don't

2354
01:21:11,220 --> 01:21:12,500
really disagree with you.

2355
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,740
What we really want is some sort of

2356
01:21:15,740 --> 01:21:19,060
bone that you can throw Trump.

2357
01:21:19,060 --> 01:21:21,660
So that Trump can come out publicly and

2358
01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:23,520
say, look, I've done everything I can.

2359
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,920
And this is the road to peace.

2360
01:21:25,940 --> 01:21:28,600
And I've negotiated this with President Putin.

2361
01:21:29,020 --> 01:21:30,140
He's on board.

2362
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,180
Now it's up to everybody else.

2363
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,840
And as he said a few days ago,

2364
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,000
if they're not going to accept this, and

2365
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,300
as far as he's concerned, Ukraine can fight

2366
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:40,240
out its little heart.

2367
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,720
You know, this is this is nonsense.

2368
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:44,880
None of this is substantive.

2369
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,220
The Russians have laid out routinely the minimal

2370
01:21:49,220 --> 01:21:53,240
conditions for the acceptance of any peace agreement.

2371
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,340
They have never changed.

2372
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,040
So what do Whitkoff and Kushner think they're

2373
01:21:59,040 --> 01:21:59,860
going to get?

2374
01:22:00,380 --> 01:22:02,940
In other words, the baby is ugly.

2375
01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:05,560
The baby is not going to become beautiful.

2376
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:06,400
It's ugly.

2377
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,000
It's in the cradle.

2378
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:09,720
Some would like to strangle it.

2379
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:13,220
Trump wants to rescue it, but it's not

2380
01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:13,740
going to happen.

2381
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:16,160
So it doesn't make any difference what Kushner

2382
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,460
and Whitkoff do.

2383
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,500
OK, I have some I have some clips

2384
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:23,740
that can parry that.

2385
01:22:23,980 --> 01:22:25,280
But we'll listen to your story.

2386
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,640
Let's play part two of this.

2387
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,600
And believe me, I'm sure that President Putin,

2388
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,220
his inner circle understand this.

2389
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,540
And if they can throw a bone to

2390
01:22:34,540 --> 01:22:36,560
Donald Trump, give him something that he can

2391
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,220
point to that says, I created this.

2392
01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:42,520
I'm the heroic figure that brought peace, tranquility

2393
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,020
and good fortune to Ukraine.

2394
01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:46,660
They'll do it because they want this damn

2395
01:22:46,660 --> 01:22:47,580
thing over as well.

2396
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,860
Not because they're losing, not because they can't

2397
01:22:50,860 --> 01:22:51,080
win.

2398
01:22:51,580 --> 01:22:52,420
That's all nonsense.

2399
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:55,060
Now, let's move to the European side.

2400
01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:56,920
Matz is on very thin ice.

2401
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,200
Look at events in Berlin.

2402
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,000
Look at the people in the streets.

2403
01:23:00,580 --> 01:23:02,100
Look at the strength that the people on

2404
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:05,540
the right, the nationalist right in Germany are

2405
01:23:05,540 --> 01:23:06,020
achieving.

2406
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,000
They're not a bunch of crazies.

2407
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,720
They're not Nazis or any of this other

2408
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,720
crap that the globalists, you know, promote.

2409
01:23:13,140 --> 01:23:16,420
They're simply German nationalists who said enough's enough.

2410
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,760
And look at their platform and what's in

2411
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:19,340
their platform.

2412
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:22,860
Their platform says we want a restoration of

2413
01:23:22,860 --> 01:23:24,740
good relations with Russia.

2414
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,380
We want to go back to doing business

2415
01:23:27,380 --> 01:23:27,960
with the Russians.

2416
01:23:28,580 --> 01:23:30,820
The majority of Germans will support that.

2417
01:23:30,980 --> 01:23:31,900
They know that.

2418
01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:33,120
Matz knows it.

2419
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,480
This is the final hour for Matz, for

2420
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:38,420
Macron, for Starmer and the others.

2421
01:23:38,980 --> 01:23:40,980
They have to come up with something that

2422
01:23:40,980 --> 01:23:42,340
keeps the war going.

2423
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,480
If they can't, and God forbid, peace should

2424
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,760
arrive on the battlefield because Zelensky suddenly leaves

2425
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,940
the country or he and his friends are

2426
01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:53,320
accidentally blown up.

2427
01:23:53,580 --> 01:23:54,200
Who knows?

2428
01:23:54,740 --> 01:23:57,680
Whatever happens, that's the end of them.

2429
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,920
They lose everything, whatever little bit of credibility

2430
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,860
they may still have.

2431
01:24:01,860 --> 01:24:04,880
And Macron and Matz are always, they're all

2432
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,640
hovering down there around 30% approval ratings.

2433
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,740
Starmer is probably lower.

2434
01:24:10,220 --> 01:24:11,440
It's over for them.

2435
01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:12,960
Well, I'm in agreement there.

2436
01:24:13,460 --> 01:24:16,180
Certainly on the Zelensky might get blown up

2437
01:24:16,180 --> 01:24:16,520
bit.

2438
01:24:18,890 --> 01:24:20,610
Unfortunate drone incident.

2439
01:24:21,310 --> 01:24:22,270
Something can happen.

2440
01:24:22,630 --> 01:24:24,970
Oh, his brain left.

2441
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:26,210
His brain left the building.

2442
01:24:27,010 --> 01:24:28,230
The guy's an actor.

2443
01:24:28,570 --> 01:24:29,310
He's a dancer.

2444
01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:31,490
A dancer, yeah.

2445
01:24:31,490 --> 01:24:33,610
He's a dancer, it's true.

2446
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:34,730
He's a tiny dancer.

2447
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:36,470
He's a tiny dancer.

2448
01:24:36,710 --> 01:24:40,070
This brings us to, to make his point,

2449
01:24:40,210 --> 01:24:41,810
this goes on, I have two more clips,

2450
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:43,950
but to make his point, he brings in

2451
01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:45,410
your buddy, Ruta.

2452
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:45,930
Yeah.

2453
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:49,230
And to prove the point, he says, he

2454
01:24:49,230 --> 01:24:51,550
says, Ruta's a, see, this is where he

2455
01:24:51,550 --> 01:24:52,570
starts missing the point.

2456
01:24:53,010 --> 01:24:55,230
He doesn't see Ruta as a sales guy.

2457
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:58,530
Doesn't understand Trump as a sales guy.

2458
01:24:58,590 --> 01:24:59,630
He doesn't get sales.

2459
01:24:59,810 --> 01:25:00,970
He's a military guy.

2460
01:25:00,970 --> 01:25:02,870
Man, this is so good.

2461
01:25:03,230 --> 01:25:05,510
And so he, because he doesn't get sales,

2462
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:07,070
he, so he plays Ruta.

2463
01:25:07,190 --> 01:25:08,930
So he, they play a clip of Ruta

2464
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:10,270
and the clip they play is this one,

2465
01:25:10,330 --> 01:25:11,950
which is a, which was from two days

2466
01:25:11,950 --> 01:25:12,230
ago.

2467
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:15,030
This is the MP3, MP3 clip.

2468
01:25:15,130 --> 01:25:17,530
But this is Marco Ruta with his latest

2469
01:25:17,530 --> 01:25:18,770
appeal.

2470
01:25:19,330 --> 01:25:21,770
As we work for peace, we cannot lose

2471
01:25:21,770 --> 01:25:25,690
sight of Russia's increasingly brutal attacks against Ukraine.

2472
01:25:25,690 --> 01:25:31,010
Russia is systematically targeting civilian infrastructure, depriving

2473
01:25:31,010 --> 01:25:33,550
Ukrainians of heat and light at the start

2474
01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:34,150
of winter.

2475
01:25:34,490 --> 01:25:36,370
Russia is not alone in this war as

2476
01:25:36,370 --> 01:25:39,150
China continues to be its decisive enabler.

2477
01:25:39,670 --> 01:25:41,590
And the Iran and North Korea also provide

2478
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:42,050
support.

2479
01:25:42,490 --> 01:25:45,370
Since the earliest days of Russia's full-scale

2480
01:25:45,370 --> 01:25:48,730
invasion, allies have shown unwavering commitment to Ukraine.

2481
01:25:49,210 --> 01:25:52,970
In recent months, European and Canadian allies have

2482
01:25:52,970 --> 01:25:55,770
provided billions of dollars of essential U.S.

2483
01:25:55,850 --> 01:25:57,830
equipment to Ukraine through Pearl.

2484
01:25:58,170 --> 01:26:01,030
This support is an important part of our

2485
01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:03,610
ongoing efforts to ensure Ukraine has what it

2486
01:26:03,610 --> 01:26:07,350
needs to defend today and deter future aggression.

2487
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:10,910
So what you called dot MP3 dot MP3,

2488
01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:13,530
I have that exact clip in my list

2489
01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:15,430
as Ruta's new sales pitch.

2490
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:19,070
And before we get back to McGregor, I

2491
01:26:19,070 --> 01:26:21,190
have 40 seconds because a lot went on

2492
01:26:21,190 --> 01:26:21,590
in Europe.

2493
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:24,010
This is how before he even got to

2494
01:26:24,010 --> 01:26:24,550
that pitch.

2495
01:26:24,670 --> 01:26:26,970
This was the wind up before the press.

2496
01:26:27,210 --> 01:26:29,190
What's important is that the weapon flow and

2497
01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:31,170
all the other supports keeps on flowing, including

2498
01:26:31,170 --> 01:26:33,350
we must keep the weapons floating, flowing.

2499
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:34,370
They must keep flowing.

2500
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:38,110
The Danish Lithuanian initiative of investing in the

2501
01:26:38,110 --> 01:26:40,490
defense industrial base in Ukraine, including the Czech

2502
01:26:40,490 --> 01:26:44,490
ammunition initiative, including all the bilateral support going

2503
01:26:44,490 --> 01:26:45,550
into Ukraine.

2504
01:26:45,770 --> 01:26:48,610
I commend what the Irish have announced yesterday.

2505
01:26:48,710 --> 01:26:50,390
So I think this is all important.

2506
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:52,110
Of course, Ireland, not a NATO, but no

2507
01:26:52,110 --> 01:26:54,630
supporting supporting Ukraine.

2508
01:26:55,550 --> 01:26:58,470
Of course, the way to fund it is

2509
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:58,870
debate.

2510
01:26:59,150 --> 01:27:01,030
And I'm not going into that because this

2511
01:27:01,030 --> 01:27:02,350
is really up to the EU.

2512
01:27:02,630 --> 01:27:04,390
And I know the European Union is working

2513
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:05,950
hard at solving that issue.

2514
01:27:06,030 --> 01:27:06,210
Yes.

2515
01:27:06,230 --> 01:27:06,870
Thank you so much.

2516
01:27:06,970 --> 01:27:07,250
You're welcome.

2517
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:09,550
We'll meet again after all the meetings.

2518
01:27:09,690 --> 01:27:09,890
Thanks.

2519
01:27:10,010 --> 01:27:10,390
Thanks.

2520
01:27:10,570 --> 01:27:11,230
OK, bye bye.

2521
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:11,610
Thanks.

2522
01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:13,690
And I'll get to the money bit after

2523
01:27:13,690 --> 01:27:14,610
your McGregor stuff.

2524
01:27:14,850 --> 01:27:15,590
So, yeah.

2525
01:27:15,610 --> 01:27:15,970
Oh, yeah.

2526
01:27:16,670 --> 01:27:17,890
There's one little clip.

2527
01:27:17,890 --> 01:27:19,110
I got two clips up, but there's a

2528
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:22,070
short clip here, which was to me, OK,

2529
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:24,630
because I've been bitching and moaning and groaning

2530
01:27:24,630 --> 01:27:25,450
about this one.

2531
01:27:25,590 --> 01:27:27,310
And I never thought about this.

2532
01:27:27,410 --> 01:27:28,630
And this is the clip three.

2533
01:27:28,730 --> 01:27:29,790
This is the aha clip.

2534
01:27:30,210 --> 01:27:31,410
And I just want to play this as

2535
01:27:31,410 --> 01:27:33,070
a side kind of an aside.

2536
01:27:33,130 --> 01:27:35,470
And then I'll reference back to my earlier

2537
01:27:35,470 --> 01:27:36,230
complaints.

2538
01:27:36,530 --> 01:27:39,050
The Russians have been very precise in their

2539
01:27:39,050 --> 01:27:41,650
application of military power from the beginning of

2540
01:27:41,650 --> 01:27:42,370
this operation.

2541
01:27:42,490 --> 01:27:45,050
And I say that because it's very difficult.

2542
01:27:45,050 --> 01:27:48,070
We talk all the time about precision strike

2543
01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:49,710
and minimizing collateral damage.

2544
01:27:50,290 --> 01:27:52,250
You're always going to have collateral damage no

2545
01:27:52,250 --> 01:27:53,630
matter how precise you are.

2546
01:27:53,770 --> 01:27:56,450
But the Russians have actually done an exceptionally

2547
01:27:56,450 --> 01:27:59,370
good job of minimizing civilian losses.

2548
01:28:02,670 --> 01:28:05,190
I've always said they did a 10 hour

2549
01:28:05,190 --> 01:28:08,170
drone and missile strike 10 hours and they

2550
01:28:08,170 --> 01:28:09,010
killed two.

2551
01:28:09,450 --> 01:28:09,610
Yeah.

2552
01:28:10,010 --> 01:28:11,470
This is what he's talking about.

2553
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:12,990
I didn't realize that this is what the

2554
01:28:12,990 --> 01:28:13,470
Russians are.

2555
01:28:13,770 --> 01:28:15,690
They're not trying to kill people at all.

2556
01:28:15,690 --> 01:28:20,850
They're blowing up substations and infrastructure and where

2557
01:28:20,850 --> 01:28:23,010
the bomb making facilities, who knows what.

2558
01:28:23,390 --> 01:28:25,290
So they are bombing for 10 hours and

2559
01:28:25,290 --> 01:28:26,930
they're killing very few people.

2560
01:28:27,810 --> 01:28:27,910
Yeah.

2561
01:28:28,190 --> 01:28:30,590
And that's because I kept because the way

2562
01:28:30,590 --> 01:28:32,810
the news presented is a Russian did this

2563
01:28:32,810 --> 01:28:33,890
and they killed a baby.

2564
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:35,970
And, you know, it was the whole thing.

2565
01:28:36,010 --> 01:28:37,710
But wait a minute, they bombed for 10

2566
01:28:37,710 --> 01:28:39,190
hours and they killed a baby.

2567
01:28:39,190 --> 01:28:39,750
That's it.

2568
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:40,070
Yeah.

2569
01:28:40,410 --> 01:28:40,670
Yeah.

2570
01:28:40,850 --> 01:28:42,310
Well, that's the reason I did.

2571
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:45,010
So I think McGregor hit something there that

2572
01:28:45,010 --> 01:28:46,590
made it worth my while.

2573
01:28:46,830 --> 01:28:48,990
Now, here's the last part, which you'll appreciate.

2574
01:28:49,790 --> 01:28:51,430
But what I want to stop and get

2575
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:53,350
people to think about is who in the

2576
01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:54,370
hell is Ruta?

2577
01:28:54,930 --> 01:28:56,050
Where does he come from?

2578
01:28:56,350 --> 01:28:57,950
I don't wish to be too delicate in

2579
01:28:57,950 --> 01:28:58,930
this in this sense.

2580
01:28:59,290 --> 01:28:59,650
Hold on.

2581
01:29:00,010 --> 01:29:00,970
Let me just set it up.

2582
01:29:01,550 --> 01:29:03,830
He was in human resources with the rest

2583
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:05,330
of the ladies at.

2584
01:29:05,710 --> 01:29:08,230
No, he doesn't get that granular.

2585
01:29:08,490 --> 01:29:09,590
It's more generalized.

2586
01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:11,670
OK, but he's from the Netherlands.

2587
01:29:11,670 --> 01:29:14,250
How many people live in the Netherlands?

2588
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:14,850
Seventeen.

2589
01:29:14,930 --> 01:29:17,010
Well, if I were running the show, I

2590
01:29:17,010 --> 01:29:20,190
would say how many forces can the Dutch

2591
01:29:20,190 --> 01:29:21,310
put into the field?

2592
01:29:21,570 --> 01:29:21,710
Ten.

2593
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:24,150
How many forces can the Norwegians put in

2594
01:29:24,150 --> 01:29:24,570
the field?

2595
01:29:24,730 --> 01:29:24,970
Eleven.

2596
01:29:25,090 --> 01:29:28,870
Remember Stoltenberg from Norway making all these utterly

2597
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:32,330
ridiculous and stupid remarks, 90 percent of which

2598
01:29:32,330 --> 01:29:32,930
were lies.

2599
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:34,030
The same thing with Ruta.

2600
01:29:34,830 --> 01:29:37,430
You know, anybody who is a real leader

2601
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:40,270
in the West would turn to these people

2602
01:29:40,270 --> 01:29:42,910
and say, shut up and sit down.

2603
01:29:43,310 --> 01:29:47,710
We, the United States, Washington, have no interest

2604
01:29:47,710 --> 01:29:52,150
whatsoever in continuing this destructive and pointless war

2605
01:29:52,150 --> 01:29:53,150
with Russia.

2606
01:29:53,470 --> 01:29:55,750
So we're not interested in what you have

2607
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:56,970
to say any longer.

2608
01:29:57,410 --> 01:29:59,730
You know, the Germans understood this for years.

2609
01:29:59,870 --> 01:30:01,410
The Russians have always understood it.

2610
01:30:01,730 --> 01:30:04,410
At some point, you need to say put

2611
01:30:04,410 --> 01:30:05,550
up or shut up.

2612
01:30:05,550 --> 01:30:08,370
During World War Two, when we had 63

2613
01:30:08,370 --> 01:30:13,070
divisions in France, the British, including the Canadians,

2614
01:30:13,710 --> 01:30:14,770
had 19.

2615
01:30:15,530 --> 01:30:17,570
And the thing that no one on the

2616
01:30:17,570 --> 01:30:21,030
Soviet side could never understand was why Eisenhower

2617
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:24,490
paid any attention whatsoever to what Montgomery and

2618
01:30:24,490 --> 01:30:25,530
Churchill had to say.

2619
01:30:25,790 --> 01:30:28,630
They had no skin in the game compared

2620
01:30:28,630 --> 01:30:29,230
with us.

2621
01:30:29,770 --> 01:30:32,010
63 divisions versus 19.

2622
01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:34,850
Well, you have a similar situation today in

2623
01:30:34,850 --> 01:30:35,110
Europe.

2624
01:30:35,550 --> 01:30:37,650
What is your military power?

2625
01:30:38,050 --> 01:30:39,670
How many forces have you got?

2626
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:42,450
The answer to those things is not much,

2627
01:30:42,510 --> 01:30:44,470
if anything, worthy of attention.

2628
01:30:45,010 --> 01:30:47,870
So someone needs to tell these people, shut

2629
01:30:47,870 --> 01:30:49,370
up, sit down.

2630
01:30:49,730 --> 01:30:50,630
Here's the answer.

2631
01:30:51,050 --> 01:30:53,190
That is what President Trump should do.

2632
01:30:53,570 --> 01:30:54,470
No, he doesn't.

2633
01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:56,850
He really doesn't understand the game at all.

2634
01:30:57,310 --> 01:30:59,550
No, he misses the he doesn't understand sales.

2635
01:30:59,710 --> 01:31:02,690
Because here is Ruta being that he's got

2636
01:31:02,690 --> 01:31:03,830
the brown shoes on.

2637
01:31:03,870 --> 01:31:04,830
He's good to go.

2638
01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:05,810
Well, I do not.

2639
01:31:06,610 --> 01:31:09,210
No, I don't think that plan B we

2640
01:31:09,210 --> 01:31:09,890
have to think about.

2641
01:31:10,490 --> 01:31:12,250
Because the U.S. is very consistent in

2642
01:31:12,250 --> 01:31:13,050
support for Ukraine.

2643
01:31:13,270 --> 01:31:16,550
So the question was, what if America pulls

2644
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:16,850
out?

2645
01:31:16,870 --> 01:31:18,130
He says, no, no, no, this is not

2646
01:31:18,130 --> 01:31:18,630
going to happen.

2647
01:31:18,730 --> 01:31:20,650
All NATO allies are very consistent.

2648
01:31:21,330 --> 01:31:23,470
Of course, what the U.S. told us

2649
01:31:23,470 --> 01:31:25,890
is we want to supply Ukraine with the

2650
01:31:25,890 --> 01:31:28,310
necessary weapons, both lethal and non-lethal.

2651
01:31:28,450 --> 01:31:30,490
Yes, we want to supply with weapons.

2652
01:31:30,630 --> 01:31:31,690
This is a sales gig.

2653
01:31:31,690 --> 01:31:34,550
But we expect Europeans and Canadians to step

2654
01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:36,530
up when it comes to the paying for

2655
01:31:36,530 --> 01:31:36,650
it.

2656
01:31:38,150 --> 01:31:39,010
Where's your money?

2657
01:31:39,170 --> 01:31:40,050
Where is the money?

2658
01:31:40,450 --> 01:31:41,690
Are we not giving you credit?

2659
01:31:42,010 --> 01:31:43,410
You must show us the money.

2660
01:31:43,730 --> 01:31:45,970
The U.S. is delivering the necessary weapons,

2661
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:48,010
including the air defense systems, the X-3

2662
01:31:48,010 --> 01:31:51,550
missiles, for the Patriot systems, but also for

2663
01:31:51,550 --> 01:31:54,110
the other air defense systems.

2664
01:31:54,610 --> 01:31:56,310
And all the other stuff and all the

2665
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:58,510
military gear you need to stay as strong

2666
01:31:58,510 --> 01:31:59,950
as possible in the fight paid for by

2667
01:31:59,950 --> 01:32:00,990
European and Canadian allies.

2668
01:32:01,690 --> 01:32:02,750
That is the big program.

2669
01:32:02,890 --> 01:32:04,870
It started in July and at the moment

2670
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:06,350
already five, four billion.

2671
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:07,510
And I think by the end of the

2672
01:32:07,510 --> 01:32:09,950
year, five billion of that supply will have

2673
01:32:09,950 --> 01:32:10,850
been delivered to Ukraine.

2674
01:32:10,970 --> 01:32:11,710
Critical material.

2675
01:32:12,170 --> 01:32:13,710
But I have no reason to think that

2676
01:32:13,710 --> 01:32:15,450
we have to prepare for those eventualities.

2677
01:32:15,570 --> 01:32:17,470
No, just pay up with the money.

2678
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:19,890
So the money is what's on the table.

2679
01:32:20,350 --> 01:32:23,550
And Queen Ursula came out yesterday and she

2680
01:32:23,550 --> 01:32:23,910
laid.

2681
01:32:24,090 --> 01:32:25,950
And it's interesting because I didn't realize this.

2682
01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:27,570
I don't, I didn't clip it because it

2683
01:32:27,570 --> 01:32:28,570
was so long and boring.

2684
01:32:28,570 --> 01:32:31,650
But she said, we have tabled two things.

2685
01:32:32,350 --> 01:32:34,290
Now, in America, if you say we've tabled

2686
01:32:34,290 --> 01:32:37,490
that, it means we're not going to consider

2687
01:32:37,490 --> 01:32:37,850
it.

2688
01:32:39,850 --> 01:32:40,590
Am I right?

2689
01:32:44,330 --> 01:32:47,990
You muted yourself, which is illegal in 29

2690
01:32:47,990 --> 01:32:48,630
states.

2691
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:53,480
Unmute.

2692
01:32:53,660 --> 01:32:55,400
You know, it's when I open something and

2693
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,440
I, it's hard to explain how that happens.

2694
01:32:57,620 --> 01:32:59,260
No, it means you put it aside.

2695
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:01,260
Yeah, but in Europe, it doesn't mean you're

2696
01:33:01,260 --> 01:33:02,560
not going to address it someday.

2697
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,000
No, but in Europe, when you say we've

2698
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,820
tabled two proposals, that means we have two

2699
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:10,040
proposals on the table.

2700
01:33:10,940 --> 01:33:11,220
What?

2701
01:33:11,420 --> 01:33:12,480
Yeah, I know.

2702
01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:13,420
I was confused.

2703
01:33:14,060 --> 01:33:15,000
I was really confused.

2704
01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:17,080
Well, here's something today.

2705
01:33:17,380 --> 01:33:21,220
Here is the French 24 overview clip.

2706
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,200
This high rise in Brussels is at the

2707
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,300
center of an argument over how the EU

2708
01:33:26,300 --> 01:33:28,400
could help fund Ukraine's war efforts.

2709
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,740
It's the headquarters of Euroclear, a Belgian financial

2710
01:33:31,740 --> 01:33:34,960
institution which holds the vast majority of frozen

2711
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,480
Russian assets in the EU, to the tune

2712
01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:39,980
of about 185 billion euros.

2713
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,800
The EU has proposed using a huge chunk

2714
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,120
of that money, or about 90 billion euros,

2715
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,460
to help Kiev in its fight against Russia

2716
01:33:47,460 --> 01:33:48,880
over the next two years.

2717
01:33:49,180 --> 01:33:52,700
And since pressure is the only language the

2718
01:33:52,700 --> 01:33:55,200
Kremlin responds to, we can also dial it

2719
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:55,420
up.

2720
01:33:56,140 --> 01:33:59,400
We have to increase the costs of war

2721
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,520
for Putin's aggression, and today's proposal gives us

2722
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,780
the means to do this.

2723
01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:07,440
The money would come to Kiev in the

2724
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,620
form of so-called reparations loans.

2725
01:34:10,140 --> 01:34:12,140
In theory, the money would be repaid on

2726
01:34:12,140 --> 01:34:15,140
the condition that Russia pays reparations to Ukraine

2727
01:34:15,140 --> 01:34:17,560
for the destruction it caused during the war.

2728
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,080
The plan also rests on the assumption that

2729
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,320
Russia's assets would remain frozen for the foreseeable

2730
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:23,780
future.

2731
01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:26,800
Moscow has called the plan illegal, and if

2732
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,120
Russia decides to sue Euroclear, Belgium says it

2733
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,640
alone would suffer all the legal and financial

2734
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:33,320
risks.

2735
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,080
It is not acceptable to use the money

2736
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,540
and leave us alone facing the risks.

2737
01:34:40,060 --> 01:34:44,120
We have repeatedly said that we consider the

2738
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,560
option of the reparations loan the worst of

2739
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:47,840
all.

2740
01:34:48,580 --> 01:34:51,560
As it is risky, it has never been

2741
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:52,540
done before.

2742
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,520
Ukraine's budget and military needs through 2027 total

2743
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:00,240
an estimated 130 billion euros, and with the

2744
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,180
Trump administration having stalled financial support for Kiev,

2745
01:35:03,620 --> 01:35:06,060
Europe is under growing pressure to fill the

2746
01:35:06,060 --> 01:35:06,380
gap.

2747
01:35:06,820 --> 01:35:09,440
Okay, so this is kind of what McGregor

2748
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:13,520
was talking about, because they need money to

2749
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,780
fund this thing, to keep this war going.

2750
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,820
They can't really print money in Europe, they

2751
01:35:18,820 --> 01:35:22,560
don't have a world reserve currency, so printing

2752
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,320
up a couple hundred billion euros is going

2753
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,540
to weaken the euro, and it's a non

2754
01:35:28,540 --> 01:35:28,900
-starter.

2755
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:32,440
So there's only two ways they can do

2756
01:35:32,440 --> 01:35:34,200
it, and Ursula laid this all out.

2757
01:35:34,580 --> 01:35:38,120
One is you can raise the money in

2758
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,360
the capital market, so borrow, which would, I

2759
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,540
mean, that also could weaken the euro and

2760
01:35:44,540 --> 01:35:47,240
everything, create some kind of bond.

2761
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,140
Or you steal the Russian money.

2762
01:35:50,140 --> 01:35:53,720
And here's Ursula explaining the math, because she's

2763
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,180
taken it to a level, you know what?

2764
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,540
We're not going to steal the money from

2765
01:35:58,540 --> 01:36:01,200
Euroclear, you got to listen carefully to what

2766
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:01,600
she says.

2767
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,000
We're only going to take 90 billion to

2768
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,640
start with, and here's how the math works

2769
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:06,900
out.

2770
01:36:07,180 --> 01:36:09,960
That was a very clear tasking by the

2771
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:10,760
European Council.

2772
01:36:11,220 --> 01:36:14,420
You remember it started with me writing a

2773
01:36:14,420 --> 01:36:16,540
letter to the European Council, the three different

2774
01:36:16,540 --> 01:36:20,300
options that were in the options paper, a

2775
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:22,040
debate we had last time and a very

2776
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:26,040
clear tasking to come early enough before the

2777
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,200
December European Council with the legal text.

2778
01:36:29,340 --> 01:36:30,780
That's what we're doing here today.

2779
01:36:32,540 --> 01:36:35,800
And now to the figures, if you take

2780
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:40,640
all CSDs and commercial banks, the immobilized Russian

2781
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,920
assets, overall it's 210 billion.

2782
01:36:45,220 --> 01:36:47,080
Now, what did we do?

2783
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,300
We looked at the needs for Ukraine in

2784
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:54,860
the years 26 and 27, as calculated by

2785
01:36:54,860 --> 01:36:55,660
the IMF.

2786
01:36:56,500 --> 01:37:00,880
And this is 137 billion euros.

2787
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,440
And we've said we cover two thirds.

2788
01:37:04,220 --> 01:37:05,920
And this is how we come to the

2789
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,400
90 billion euros, two thirds of these needs

2790
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,440
for the next two years.

2791
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,740
So that's a lot of nice accounting.

2792
01:37:12,300 --> 01:37:14,700
But really what she's saying is there are

2793
01:37:14,700 --> 01:37:19,620
CSDs, so they're secured deposits of Russian money

2794
01:37:19,620 --> 01:37:20,780
in different banks.

2795
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,020
So she's saying, well, we won't go to

2796
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:23,740
Euroclear.

2797
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:25,820
We'll steal the money from all the other

2798
01:37:25,820 --> 01:37:28,040
places where the assets have been frozen.

2799
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:32,340
And I found an analyst on CNBC.

2800
01:37:32,340 --> 01:37:33,440
I've never seen her before.

2801
01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:36,680
She has kind of an Eastern European, maybe

2802
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:37,540
Russian accent.

2803
01:37:37,540 --> 01:37:39,900
But she did a pretty good job of

2804
01:37:39,900 --> 01:37:42,560
analyzing what is really happening here.

2805
01:37:42,740 --> 01:37:44,380
For a start, the frozen assets is way

2806
01:37:44,380 --> 01:37:45,200
bigger than 90 billion.

2807
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:46,640
That's not her, obviously.

2808
01:37:46,940 --> 01:37:47,800
I can explain the figure.

2809
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,060
It's 90 billion for a period of two

2810
01:37:52,060 --> 01:37:52,660
years.

2811
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:54,520
So there's more.

2812
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:55,100
You're right.

2813
01:37:55,180 --> 01:37:57,900
We're talking about almost 300 billion that are

2814
01:37:57,900 --> 01:37:59,240
indeed frozen at the moment.

2815
01:37:59,620 --> 01:38:02,120
But what the European Commission is saying is

2816
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:03,820
that we are going to use for the

2817
01:38:03,820 --> 01:38:06,880
time being only 90 billion for the next

2818
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,240
two years to support Ukraine.

2819
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,060
That doesn't cover all the financing needs, but

2820
01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:14,840
it's just what the Commission decided to put

2821
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:15,940
forward at this stage.

2822
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,500
I can see a flaw in this plan

2823
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:20,180
immediately.

2824
01:38:20,580 --> 01:38:22,460
And I'm pretty sure as part of, I

2825
01:38:22,460 --> 01:38:23,940
don't know, we are down to 27 bullet

2826
01:38:23,940 --> 01:38:26,600
points or 28 bullet points between Putin and

2827
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,380
Trump at the moment.

2828
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,860
I'm pretty sure that part of that plan

2829
01:38:29,860 --> 01:38:31,840
was you hand back those frozen assets.

2830
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:32,900
You're right.

2831
01:38:32,900 --> 01:38:35,240
And there's so many angles we could take

2832
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:36,660
with the story because there are so many

2833
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:37,840
issues here, actually.

2834
01:38:37,980 --> 01:38:40,080
So I'll try to explain it as best

2835
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:40,720
as I can.

2836
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,560
Which is good enough for me, that's for

2837
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:42,760
sure.

2838
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:43,800
I'll do my best.

2839
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,380
So what the European Commission said yesterday was,

2840
01:38:47,940 --> 01:38:50,220
OK, we need to support Ukraine with further

2841
01:38:50,220 --> 01:38:50,840
financing.

2842
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,540
What we're suggested to do is to use

2843
01:38:53,540 --> 01:38:56,100
the so-called frozen Russian assets that are

2844
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:57,740
held on the European continent.

2845
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,660
So what the Commission is trying to do

2846
01:38:59,660 --> 01:39:02,080
here is to try to use the assets

2847
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,820
that are available across the bloc, not just

2848
01:39:05,820 --> 01:39:08,660
in Belgium, because we know Belgium, where the

2849
01:39:08,660 --> 01:39:10,980
majority of the assets are held, has had

2850
01:39:10,980 --> 01:39:14,640
very strong legal concerns about this problem.

2851
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,140
But even before the Commission put forward this

2852
01:39:17,140 --> 01:39:20,540
proposal, Belgium was already saying they had issues

2853
01:39:20,540 --> 01:39:20,980
with it.

2854
01:39:21,060 --> 01:39:23,220
We heard, for instance, from the foreign affairs

2855
01:39:23,220 --> 01:39:27,520
minister, Maxime Prévost, saying that they were going

2856
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,020
to plead for alternatives here.

2857
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,000
And indeed, they believe that EU borrowing is

2858
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,520
the best option rather than using the frozen

2859
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:36,640
Russian assets.

2860
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:40,120
So Ursula herself is a sales lady, and

2861
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,000
she came out with these two proposals.

2862
01:39:42,260 --> 01:39:44,780
One, we'll just borrow the money, or we

2863
01:39:44,780 --> 01:39:46,600
can steal it from the Russians over here.

2864
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,140
And our analyst explains what that was really

2865
01:39:49,140 --> 01:39:49,400
about.

2866
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:51,520
It was your typical, would you like the

2867
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,340
sandals, the sneakers, or the shoes I really

2868
01:39:54,340 --> 01:39:55,100
want to sell you?

2869
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,620
– What the European Commission also suggested yesterday

2870
01:39:58,620 --> 01:40:01,140
was, if we don't go down the route

2871
01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:03,980
of using the frozen Russian assets, we can

2872
01:40:03,980 --> 01:40:07,080
indeed go to the markets and actually borrow

2873
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:08,740
cash to support Ukraine.

2874
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,020
But that is actually even more complicated from

2875
01:40:12,020 --> 01:40:14,280
a European perspective, because in order to do

2876
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,780
so, you would need all of the member

2877
01:40:16,780 --> 01:40:19,020
states, all of the 27, to say yes

2878
01:40:19,020 --> 01:40:19,920
to that plan.

2879
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,360
And we know countries such as Hungary are

2880
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,040
likely to raise issues with that.

2881
01:40:25,460 --> 01:40:28,100
So one EU official told me yesterday that

2882
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:31,340
by putting forward two proposals, what the European

2883
01:40:31,340 --> 01:40:33,620
Commission is trying to do here is to

2884
01:40:33,620 --> 01:40:36,100
show to the member states that the most

2885
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:38,780
viable option is still to go down the

2886
01:40:38,780 --> 01:40:40,680
route of the frozen Russian assets.

2887
01:40:41,140 --> 01:40:42,860
– Now, we know the Russians think this

2888
01:40:42,860 --> 01:40:43,420
is illegal.

2889
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:44,500
It is illegal.

2890
01:40:45,060 --> 01:40:50,700
It would end at least the European financial

2891
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:53,780
integrity.

2892
01:40:54,060 --> 01:40:56,700
Who would ever want to bank with anything?

2893
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:57,680
– Yeah, why would you send your money

2894
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,260
over there for any investment purposes or anything

2895
01:41:00,260 --> 01:41:01,940
for that matter if they're going to steal

2896
01:41:01,940 --> 01:41:02,220
it?

2897
01:41:02,580 --> 01:41:04,280
– Well, according to Ursula...

2898
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:04,980
– On a whim.

2899
01:41:05,220 --> 01:41:06,160
– Listen to this.

2900
01:41:06,700 --> 01:41:08,860
Listen who's egging her on to do it.

2901
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:11,080
– We have informed the US administration.

2902
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,680
I've spoken, for example, to Scott Besant, that

2903
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,300
we are planning before, right before today, that

2904
01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:21,880
we're planning on developing a system of the

2905
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:22,780
reparations loan.

2906
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,340
It was positively received.

2907
01:41:26,380 --> 01:41:29,060
– I could just hear, yeah, yeah, do

2908
01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:29,520
it, Ursula.

2909
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:30,260
Good idea.

2910
01:41:30,420 --> 01:41:31,800
Go ahead, do it, do it, do it.

2911
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:32,520
You can do it.

2912
01:41:32,820 --> 01:41:34,340
Who cares about the city of London?

2913
01:41:34,440 --> 01:41:35,480
Who cares about Frankfurt?

2914
01:41:35,620 --> 01:41:35,960
Do it.

2915
01:41:36,020 --> 01:41:36,740
Just do it.

2916
01:41:36,740 --> 01:41:40,000
– ...who have potentially immobilized Russian assets.

2917
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:43,660
And the construction is in a way that

2918
01:41:43,660 --> 01:41:48,280
it invites others also to join with their

2919
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,460
immobilized Russian assets.

2920
01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:49,880
– Oh, yeah.

2921
01:41:50,440 --> 01:41:53,540
– So that they can contribute also to

2922
01:41:53,540 --> 01:41:57,860
the financing of Ukraine and contribute in the

2923
01:41:57,860 --> 01:42:01,900
way the reparations loan is working.

2924
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,960
– Dude, this is so dumb.

2925
01:42:06,620 --> 01:42:07,140
It's...

2926
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:08,600
I don't even understand.

2927
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:09,620
Is she...

2928
01:42:09,620 --> 01:42:10,480
Is her job...

2929
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:12,140
Is it to kill the European Union?

2930
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,660
Maybe we've misjudged her.

2931
01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:17,060
Maybe she's a Manchurian candidate.

2932
01:42:17,780 --> 01:42:19,240
– I don't think so.

2933
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:20,680
– And listen to this.

2934
01:42:20,780 --> 01:42:23,640
If that wasn't stupid enough, oh, we got

2935
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:24,200
to top her.

2936
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:26,120
– A move that looks set to turn

2937
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,660
off the tap on Russian gas forever, were

2938
01:42:28,660 --> 01:42:30,840
praised by the European Commission presidents.

2939
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,080
– We're turning that page and we're turning

2940
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:34,640
it for good.

2941
01:42:35,420 --> 01:42:37,860
This is the dawn of a new era.

2942
01:42:38,620 --> 01:42:42,660
The era of Europe's full energy independence from

2943
01:42:42,660 --> 01:42:42,980
Russia.

2944
01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:46,560
After pledging to reduce Russian energy intake following

2945
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,320
the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the share

2946
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,920
of Russian gas in EU imports has fallen

2947
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,960
from 45% in 2021 to 12%

2948
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,500
as of October this year.

2949
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,960
But while Europe has slashed pipeline deliveries, it's

2950
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,160
partly turned to liquefied natural gas shipped by

2951
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,900
sea, unloaded at ports and fed back into

2952
01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:07,360
the network.

2953
01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:08,020
– Oh, that's convenient.

2954
01:43:08,260 --> 01:43:10,500
Imports of Russian LNG into the EU are

2955
01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:13,540
still expected to amount to 15 billion euros

2956
01:43:13,540 --> 01:43:14,220
this year.

2957
01:43:14,900 --> 01:43:18,120
Under Wednesday's agreement, Russian pipeline gas will be

2958
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,040
phased out by the end of September 2027

2959
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,840
and LNG imports banned by the end of

2960
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:24,440
next year.

2961
01:43:24,820 --> 01:43:27,420
The Commission also wants to end remaining imports

2962
01:43:27,420 --> 01:43:30,360
of Russian oil with legislation to be proposed

2963
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:31,120
next year.

2964
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,720
But this agreement is already facing challenges from

2965
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:35,420
member states.

2966
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,880
Slovakia, still highly reliant on gas and oil

2967
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,140
from Moscow, is weighing its legal options, while

2968
01:43:42,140 --> 01:43:45,060
Hungary's foreign minister says his country already has

2969
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:45,560
a plan.

2970
01:43:45,940 --> 01:43:48,060
As soon as the Repower EU plan is

2971
01:43:48,060 --> 01:43:50,820
formally adopted, we will immediately challenge it before

2972
01:43:50,820 --> 01:43:52,100
the EU Court of Justice.

2973
01:43:52,660 --> 01:43:54,700
Legal proceedings will start without delay.

2974
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,120
Preparatory work is already underway.

2975
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,260
We will do everything necessary to defend Hungary's

2976
01:44:00,260 --> 01:44:01,260
energy security.

2977
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,020
Meanwhile, the Kremlin has condemned the move, saying

2978
01:44:05,020 --> 01:44:07,660
it would doom Europe to becoming less competitive

2979
01:44:07,660 --> 01:44:10,340
and lead to higher prices for consumers.

2980
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,640
Of course, these people are insane.

2981
01:44:14,780 --> 01:44:19,240
And right on cue, in the Netherlands, where

2982
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,940
they have an open energy market, which means

2983
01:44:21,940 --> 01:44:23,920
you can, you know, you can brand your

2984
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:25,340
own version of energy.

2985
01:44:25,340 --> 01:44:27,160
Oh, we're the green guys.

2986
01:44:27,340 --> 01:44:28,880
Take our, take our electricity.

2987
01:44:29,660 --> 01:44:31,920
Every single one of them is now introducing

2988
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,380
smart heating.

2989
01:44:33,980 --> 01:44:34,640
Oh, yeah.

2990
01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:39,180
So, so you will get it.

2991
01:44:39,380 --> 01:44:42,060
You know, this is, we, this already failed

2992
01:44:42,060 --> 01:44:42,700
here in America.

2993
01:44:42,700 --> 01:44:45,260
But yeah, we're going to give you a

2994
01:44:45,260 --> 01:44:48,080
thermostat that we can control to heat your

2995
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,080
home smartly.

2996
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:51,300
You remember it was?

2997
01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:53,340
Yeah, the remote control thermostat.

2998
01:44:53,340 --> 01:44:55,380
I think it was three years ago.

2999
01:44:55,660 --> 01:44:57,020
Maybe it was longer than that.

3000
01:44:57,060 --> 01:44:58,780
Two or three years ago, we had friends

3001
01:44:58,780 --> 01:44:59,040
here.

3002
01:44:59,140 --> 01:44:59,980
They're in their 70s.

3003
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,660
And, you know, the business people that have

3004
01:45:04,660 --> 01:45:08,700
some stores around here used to do some

3005
01:45:08,700 --> 01:45:09,260
real estate.

3006
01:45:09,940 --> 01:45:12,140
And they both had the flu, which is

3007
01:45:12,140 --> 01:45:12,700
not nice.

3008
01:45:13,300 --> 01:45:15,500
But he said, he sent out a text

3009
01:45:15,500 --> 01:45:17,380
message to say, hey, you know, I signed

3010
01:45:17,380 --> 01:45:19,840
up for that smart heating thing.

3011
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,960
And now it's, you know, it's 28 degrees.

3012
01:45:24,500 --> 01:45:26,560
And we can't turn the heat up manually.

3013
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,840
Because they had opted into one of those

3014
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:30,640
stupid plans.

3015
01:45:30,740 --> 01:45:32,320
So I had to take a space heater

3016
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:33,060
over to them.

3017
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,700
This is the dumbest idea.

3018
01:45:36,420 --> 01:45:38,420
It's all of Europe is being ruined by

3019
01:45:38,420 --> 01:45:38,980
this woman.

3020
01:45:40,940 --> 01:45:43,700
It's so this is a capture by the

3021
01:45:43,700 --> 01:45:44,120
Greens.

3022
01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:46,640
I mean, this is obviously a problem.

3023
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,460
Now, this brings us to another point.

3024
01:45:48,460 --> 01:45:50,400
I think McGregor made it or somebody did,

3025
01:45:50,460 --> 01:45:53,220
which is they predict that Germany, because of

3026
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:58,240
the AFD, at some point, they're going to

3027
01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,720
cave and the AFD is going to take

3028
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:00,580
over the place.

3029
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:01,040
Yeah.

3030
01:46:01,220 --> 01:46:02,680
And the first thing they're going to do

3031
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:04,060
is get out of the EU and get

3032
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:04,620
out of NATO.

3033
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:05,420
Of course.

3034
01:46:05,980 --> 01:46:07,160
Because then they can do business.

3035
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:08,080
Russia, really?

3036
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,220
Well, you don't want their gas.

3037
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:09,960
We'll take it.

3038
01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:11,560
And the Russians will have it at a

3039
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:12,320
cheaper price.

3040
01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:14,400
I mean, anything's cheaper than hauling it over

3041
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:15,200
in a ship.

3042
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:15,680
Right.

3043
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,760
And then so they just ramp back up.

3044
01:46:18,860 --> 01:46:21,880
I mean, Germany is the industrial powerhouse that

3045
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,240
can ramp up in a minute if you

3046
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:24,260
give them cheap energy.

3047
01:46:26,180 --> 01:46:28,260
And they just run roughshod over the rest

3048
01:46:28,260 --> 01:46:31,000
of the rest of these European countries, which

3049
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,340
are going to be what's left of the

3050
01:46:33,340 --> 01:46:33,700
EU.

3051
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:34,760
They're going to be starving.

3052
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:36,440
Starving.

3053
01:46:36,780 --> 01:46:37,560
The hunger winter.

3054
01:46:38,900 --> 01:46:41,020
Let's get an update from the North Sea

3055
01:46:41,020 --> 01:46:43,440
Nexus on how the Russian peace talks went.

3056
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:46,420
The announcement of the EU's plans came after

3057
01:46:46,420 --> 01:46:48,820
high stakes peace talks between the U.S.

3058
01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:52,040
and Russia in Moscow failed once again to

3059
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:53,240
produce any breakthrough.

3060
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,640
Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin

3061
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,980
rejected all of President Trump's proposals.

3062
01:46:59,660 --> 01:47:00,360
But add a name.

3063
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:02,500
That's an interesting line that she uses here.

3064
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,880
So that's very interesting construction.

3065
01:47:06,060 --> 01:47:06,420
You're right.

3066
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:07,280
I heard it, too.

3067
01:47:07,420 --> 01:47:08,100
Yeah, she said.

3068
01:47:08,140 --> 01:47:09,700
But you're going to have to read it

3069
01:47:09,700 --> 01:47:11,680
or repeat it or.

3070
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:12,880
Yeah, I'll do both.

3071
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:18,040
So she says Russia has rejected any claims

3072
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:22,180
that Putin rejected all of the proposals.

3073
01:47:22,980 --> 01:47:25,620
So what you're hearing as a casual listener

3074
01:47:25,620 --> 01:47:28,140
of the BBC is, well, Russia rejected all

3075
01:47:28,140 --> 01:47:30,440
claims, all rejected everything.

3076
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:32,560
But that's not what she actually said.

3077
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,860
She said the Russians rejected this notion that

3078
01:47:35,860 --> 01:47:37,060
Putin rejected everything.

3079
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:38,920
Again, to produce any breakthrough.

3080
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,320
Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin

3081
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,600
rejected all of President Trump's proposals.

3082
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,480
But at a NATO meeting in Brussels this

3083
01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:50,600
morning, the Secretary General Mark Rutte said if

3084
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,140
the peace talks took too long, there were

3085
01:47:53,140 --> 01:47:55,120
two ways to put pressure on Russia.

3086
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,620
One is making sure that the Russians understand

3087
01:47:57,620 --> 01:48:00,560
that a weapon flow into Ukraine will keep

3088
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:01,040
on going.

3089
01:48:01,180 --> 01:48:02,540
This is exactly what's happening today.

3090
01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:04,460
Thanks to the U.S., thanks to the

3091
01:48:04,460 --> 01:48:07,260
Europeans, U.S. sending its crucial gear to

3092
01:48:07,260 --> 01:48:09,600
Ukraine, paid for by Canada and European allies.

3093
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,720
But also Europe and Canada are doing a

3094
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:12,540
lot bilaterally.

3095
01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:15,620
And secondly, making sure that the economic sanctions

3096
01:48:15,620 --> 01:48:17,100
bite, that they are effective.

3097
01:48:17,380 --> 01:48:18,800
That's also exactly what's happening.

3098
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:20,500
Yes, despite the customary...

3099
01:48:20,500 --> 01:48:21,000
They bite.

3100
01:48:21,140 --> 01:48:23,340
The people will be very cold in Europe,

3101
01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:24,180
but they bite.

3102
01:48:24,380 --> 01:48:25,380
OK, that's good.

3103
01:48:25,940 --> 01:48:26,380
They bite.

3104
01:48:26,540 --> 01:48:28,960
Despite the customary smiles and handshakes for the

3105
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,180
cameras, NATO countries meeting here know they've been

3106
01:48:32,180 --> 01:48:35,180
sidelined from the Ukraine peace process by their

3107
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:37,960
biggest and most influential member, the U.S.

3108
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,580
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by

3109
01:48:41,580 --> 01:48:42,200
his absence.

3110
01:48:42,820 --> 01:48:45,160
President Trump is pushing for an immediate end

3111
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,260
to the war and has already stopped giving

3112
01:48:47,260 --> 01:48:48,280
weapons to Ukraine.

3113
01:48:48,420 --> 01:48:49,580
What does that even mean?

3114
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,180
Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.

3115
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,220
What is the subtext of that?

3116
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,120
There is some subtext, because in all the

3117
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,200
analysis I've been listening to, there's something about

3118
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:01,140
Rubio is...

3119
01:49:02,180 --> 01:49:04,500
I think McGregor's right.

3120
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,640
The whole thing is really about getting a

3121
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,840
bone for Trump and ending the war that

3122
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,500
way with some phony baloney thing that's going

3123
01:49:12,500 --> 01:49:12,880
to happen.

3124
01:49:12,980 --> 01:49:15,020
And Rubio is not part of it because

3125
01:49:15,020 --> 01:49:16,000
he would...

3126
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:19,100
That's not him.

3127
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:21,440
They want these two sales guys in there,

3128
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,540
Witkoff and Kushner, to try to push this

3129
01:49:26,540 --> 01:49:27,240
across the line.

3130
01:49:27,460 --> 01:49:28,520
And Rubio is not involved.

3131
01:49:28,660 --> 01:49:29,380
He's just not involved.

3132
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:33,060
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by

3133
01:49:33,060 --> 01:49:33,720
his absence.

3134
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,660
President Trump is pushing for an immediate end

3135
01:49:36,660 --> 01:49:38,760
to the war and has already stopped giving

3136
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,060
weapons to Ukraine, although he is still willing

3137
01:49:41,060 --> 01:49:43,460
to sell them via Europe for now.

3138
01:49:43,940 --> 01:49:46,340
As for the Putin-Witkoff meeting in Moscow

3139
01:49:46,340 --> 01:49:48,480
last night, the Kremlin said it would be

3140
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:51,560
wrong to suggest President Putin had rejected the

3141
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,360
U.S. proposals and insisted there could be

3142
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,860
more meetings with the Americans for as long

3143
01:49:56,860 --> 01:49:57,580
as necessary.

3144
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,400
Crucially, though, there's no sign whatsoever Moscow is

3145
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,640
ready to give up its key demand for

3146
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,960
Ukrainian territory it hasn't yet taken in exchange

3147
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,160
for ending the war.

3148
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:09,700
So that's the BBC's take.

3149
01:50:09,780 --> 01:50:11,740
And remember, it starts with the talks have

3150
01:50:11,740 --> 01:50:12,200
failed.

3151
01:50:12,300 --> 01:50:13,620
Let's listen to the...

3152
01:50:13,620 --> 01:50:14,780
Yeah, this is the BBC.

3153
01:50:14,980 --> 01:50:16,900
They're just gone off the rails.

3154
01:50:16,900 --> 01:50:19,440
I have to say that this brings back

3155
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:23,880
to mind Zelensky either fleeing the country or

3156
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:25,360
getting blown up.

3157
01:50:25,540 --> 01:50:25,800
Oh, yeah.

3158
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:27,740
But I think he's going to flee the

3159
01:50:27,740 --> 01:50:28,060
country.

3160
01:50:28,740 --> 01:50:31,180
Well, they only have two weeks, two weeks

3161
01:50:31,180 --> 01:50:33,800
until the money is on the table or

3162
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,980
decided what they're going to do to continue

3163
01:50:36,980 --> 01:50:37,840
to weapon flow.

3164
01:50:39,180 --> 01:50:41,880
But the thing is, I think there's an

3165
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:43,180
ambassador somewhere.

3166
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,700
There's the Ukrainian ambassador to...

3167
01:50:45,700 --> 01:50:49,060
I want to say the U.K. And

3168
01:50:49,060 --> 01:50:53,000
I think if Zelensky goes out, that guy

3169
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:53,720
comes in.

3170
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:56,820
I've been hearing his name.

3171
01:50:56,980 --> 01:50:57,400
Let me see.

3172
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,100
What is it?

3173
01:50:58,740 --> 01:51:00,660
Well, Zelensky's got to go because once he

3174
01:51:00,660 --> 01:51:03,600
lost his aid, the guys really run anything

3175
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,540
that his producer is, you know, TV, radio,

3176
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:08,820
producer, director.

3177
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:09,640
His producer.

3178
01:51:09,820 --> 01:51:10,060
Yes.

3179
01:51:10,340 --> 01:51:13,080
Once that guy left, he fled.

3180
01:51:13,660 --> 01:51:15,020
You know, he's not indicted.

3181
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:15,520
He's gone.

3182
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:16,600
He took off.

3183
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:17,060
Yeah.

3184
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,820
Once he left, Zelensky's rudderless.

3185
01:51:20,980 --> 01:51:22,700
He's in Monaco.

3186
01:51:23,820 --> 01:51:24,860
Oh, he went to Monaco?

3187
01:51:25,060 --> 01:51:26,000
That's where they all are.

3188
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:30,020
If you go to Monaco, there's Rolls Royces,

3189
01:51:30,180 --> 01:51:31,220
Ferraris, all...

3190
01:51:31,220 --> 01:51:32,760
You know, I've been to Monaco a couple

3191
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:33,120
of times.

3192
01:51:33,460 --> 01:51:33,760
But all...

3193
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:34,760
But you didn't let me finish.

3194
01:51:34,900 --> 01:51:36,740
All with Ukrainian license plates.

3195
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:37,740
Oh, that's...

3196
01:51:37,740 --> 01:51:38,080
I don't...

3197
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:38,840
I never noticed.

3198
01:51:38,980 --> 01:51:39,980
But I'll say this.

3199
01:51:40,580 --> 01:51:42,520
Monaco, if you're going to escape to some

3200
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:43,640
place and they let you do it...

3201
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:44,580
You want to go to Monaco.

3202
01:51:44,580 --> 01:51:46,020
That's where I'd go.

3203
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:46,660
That's right.

3204
01:51:46,900 --> 01:51:50,620
Okay, here's the French 24 version of the

3205
01:51:50,620 --> 01:51:51,980
talks report.

3206
01:51:52,180 --> 01:51:54,920
The Trump administration's top envoys have once again

3207
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,480
left the Kremlin empty-handed with no peace

3208
01:51:57,480 --> 01:51:57,800
deal.

3209
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,360
Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner sat down with

3210
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,140
Russia's Vladimir Putin, tasked with finding a way

3211
01:52:03,140 --> 01:52:04,520
to end the war in Ukraine.

3212
01:52:04,820 --> 01:52:07,200
They discussed the framework of the revised US

3213
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:08,060
-backed peace plan.

3214
01:52:08,420 --> 01:52:10,080
Putin's foreign policy aide said it was a

3215
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,560
positive discussion, but more work needs to be

3216
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:12,800
done.

3217
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,920
The conversation was very useful, constructive, and very

3218
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:17,280
meaningful.

3219
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,480
It lasted not for five minutes, but for

3220
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:21,220
five hours.

3221
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,140
We could agree with certain things.

3222
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,500
And President Putin confirmed this to his interlocutors.

3223
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:28,740
We criticized some things.

3224
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,600
And the president did not hide our critical,

3225
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:34,880
even negative attitude to a number of proposals.

3226
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,740
No details have been given about what was

3227
01:52:37,740 --> 01:52:38,220
discussed.

3228
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,660
But Yuri Yushakov said they did talk about

3229
01:52:40,660 --> 01:52:41,880
the territorial problem.

3230
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,520
Moscow has not backed down on its territorial

3231
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,860
demands, seeking Russian sovereignty not just in the

3232
01:52:47,860 --> 01:52:50,620
20% of Ukrainian land currently controlled by

3233
01:52:50,620 --> 01:52:53,100
its troops, but also calling on the Ukrainian

3234
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:55,400
army to retreat from the front line and

3235
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:56,780
concede further losses.

3236
01:52:56,980 --> 01:52:58,600
I love how she says there's no details,

3237
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,020
but then she has all these details.

3238
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:01,760
She's got a lot of details.

3239
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:03,940
Russia is also calling for a more than

3240
01:53:03,940 --> 01:53:06,420
30% reduction in the size of Ukraine's

3241
01:53:06,420 --> 01:53:09,480
army and the possibility of Ukrainian NATO membership

3242
01:53:09,480 --> 01:53:11,240
to be completely off the table.

3243
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,400
Ukrainian President Zelensky has been on tour around

3244
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,140
Europe to fortify support against Russia's invasion.

3245
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,240
Before details of the US-Russian meeting emerged,

3246
01:53:20,460 --> 01:53:23,320
he once again reiterated his country's need for

3247
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:25,820
long-term deterrence against Russian aggression.

3248
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,000
So that's a little different than the BBC.

3249
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,760
It's like, well, the Russians right there said,

3250
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,040
well, you know, we got along on some

3251
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:33,400
things.

3252
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:34,640
They listened to us.

3253
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,740
We had some points we didn't agree on.

3254
01:53:37,460 --> 01:53:38,940
There was a real conversation.

3255
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:42,480
But oh no, not according to the BBC.

3256
01:53:42,860 --> 01:53:43,820
Oh no, oh no.

3257
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:49,160
So two weeks, the clock is ticking.

3258
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:50,580
Two weeks for the money.

3259
01:53:51,540 --> 01:53:52,880
They're going to have to make a decision

3260
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,540
and the European Commission has to make a

3261
01:53:56,540 --> 01:53:56,860
decision.

3262
01:53:57,420 --> 01:53:59,340
Are we going to borrow the money or

3263
01:53:59,340 --> 01:54:00,380
are we going to steal the money?

3264
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,100
It's such a great, this is a great

3265
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:04,920
show to watch.

3266
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:05,820
I really love it.

3267
01:54:05,820 --> 01:54:06,460
It's funny.

3268
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,300
Especially with Ursula and Rutte.

3269
01:54:08,420 --> 01:54:09,820
Those two just make it great.

3270
01:54:09,820 --> 01:54:13,820
And then, oh, all of a sudden, let

3271
01:54:13,820 --> 01:54:14,460
me ask you a question.

3272
01:54:16,660 --> 01:54:21,880
What is the point of banning countries from

3273
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:23,820
international events?

3274
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:26,080
Like, you know, Russia.

3275
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,720
Russia's not allowed to be in Olympics.

3276
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:29,880
It's virtue signaling.

3277
01:54:30,500 --> 01:54:31,380
No real reason.

3278
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:33,900
I mean, there is really no reason.

3279
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:35,720
It doesn't do anything.

3280
01:54:36,300 --> 01:54:36,540
It doesn't.

3281
01:54:36,580 --> 01:54:37,960
No, in fact, it does the opposite of

3282
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,840
what these events are supposed to do, which

3283
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,080
is bring people together.

3284
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:43,880
Well, here's the latest.

3285
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,020
It's a major test for the world's most

3286
01:54:46,020 --> 01:54:48,140
beloved international song competition.

3287
01:54:48,740 --> 01:54:51,600
Members of the European Broadcasting Union, the body

3288
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:54,520
that organized Eurovision, will meet Thursday to decide

3289
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,080
whether Israel can compete in 2026.

3290
01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:01,600
Public broadcasters from Spain, Slovenia, the Netherlands, and

3291
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,760
Ireland have threatened to withdraw if Israel participates,

3292
01:55:05,380 --> 01:55:07,640
citing the Palestinian death toll in Gaza due

3293
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:08,580
to Israel's offensive.

3294
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,820
Boycott could be a blow for sponsorship and

3295
01:55:11,820 --> 01:55:14,600
viewership, particularly by Spain, which is one of

3296
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,560
the big five contributing countries.

3297
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,440
We hold the same position we had months

3298
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:22,980
ago, when we said Israel's participation in the

3299
01:55:22,980 --> 01:55:25,660
Eurovision festival was untenable for two main reasons.

3300
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,800
Firstly, because of the genocide it has perpetrated

3301
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:29,360
in Gaza.

3302
01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:32,720
Eurovision is, of course, a contest, but human

3303
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,020
rights are not a contest.

3304
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,160
Eurovision has always aimed to remain apolitical, but

3305
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,080
Israel's participation has heavily influenced the last few

3306
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:42,520
editions.

3307
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,200
This year, critics accused Israel of unfairly boosting

3308
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,580
support for its entrant Yuval Raphael, a survivor

3309
01:55:49,580 --> 01:55:52,240
of the October 7th attacks, pushing her to

3310
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,660
a second-place finish despite little backing from

3311
01:55:54,660 --> 01:55:55,640
professional juries.

3312
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:58,920
The controversy pushed EBU to change its voting

3313
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,780
rules, aimed at pacifying angry member states.

3314
01:56:02,500 --> 01:56:04,980
Members will discuss Thursday whether these new rules

3315
01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:07,100
are adequate, or else there will be a

3316
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:08,160
vote on participation.

3317
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,580
Should Israel be voted out, it wouldn't be

3318
01:56:10,580 --> 01:56:12,120
the first country to be barred.

3319
01:56:12,740 --> 01:56:15,200
Russia has been excluded from Eurovision since its

3320
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:19,520
2022 invasion of Ukraine, and Belarus since 2021.

3321
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,920
Eurovision 2026 is scheduled to take place next

3322
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:24,060
May in Austria.

3323
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,800
So the Dutch, the Dutch, oh no, if

3324
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,440
Israel, if Israel is in it, we're out.

3325
01:56:30,540 --> 01:56:31,500
We're going to boycott it.

3326
01:56:31,500 --> 01:56:32,020
What?

3327
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:33,640
What?

3328
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:38,140
This presents a great opportunity though.

3329
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,680
This is where America should step up and

3330
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,680
should say, we're creating the gayest song contest

3331
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,540
of the world ever, and everybody's invited.

3332
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:48,980
And we can do it.

3333
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,920
Yes, and Trump could do it.

3334
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,380
The gayest song contest in the world.

3335
01:56:55,660 --> 01:56:57,900
Let's get rid of this Eurovision crap.

3336
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,520
And we'll, and we'll even give the UK

3337
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,640
an advantage, because they're always last.

3338
01:57:03,780 --> 01:57:04,880
We'll give them, we'll give them a five

3339
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:05,640
point advantage.

3340
01:57:06,220 --> 01:57:07,560
It would be fantastic.

3341
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:08,320
Handicap.

3342
01:57:08,460 --> 01:57:09,560
A handicap, thank you.

3343
01:57:10,620 --> 01:57:11,500
A handicap.

3344
01:57:12,020 --> 01:57:12,800
It would be great.

3345
01:57:13,660 --> 01:57:17,120
This is, that's what they're worried about.

3346
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:21,800
So all eyes, two weeks.

3347
01:57:22,260 --> 01:57:23,620
I'll keep my eye on it.

3348
01:57:23,980 --> 01:57:25,440
I will be, we'll be on top of

3349
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:25,580
it.

3350
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,560
Of course, it's so good.

3351
01:57:31,460 --> 01:57:33,780
I have a couple of clips from two,

3352
01:57:34,180 --> 01:57:34,480
actually.

3353
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:35,400
Which is a couple.

3354
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:36,220
Three, but it's not really.

3355
01:57:36,580 --> 01:57:38,060
In fact, they screwed it up twice.

3356
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:39,040
That's good to know.

3357
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:39,960
Yes.

3358
01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:41,040
Arctic frost.

3359
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:41,960
Yeah.

3360
01:57:42,180 --> 01:57:43,260
So which one is it?

3361
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:47,140
Well, the first, the ones that say one

3362
01:57:47,140 --> 01:57:50,380
are both the same, which is should be,

3363
01:57:50,420 --> 01:57:50,920
because they're one.

3364
01:57:51,140 --> 01:57:52,840
But I look at the time and I

3365
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:54,640
say, oh, I forgot to cut it.

3366
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:56,880
And I'm guessing it cuts off.

3367
01:57:56,940 --> 01:57:58,160
I'll tell you when to stop it.

3368
01:57:58,420 --> 01:57:59,260
Okay, here we go.

3369
01:58:00,540 --> 01:58:03,080
A little bit of history before I get

3370
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:03,900
to what we're.

3371
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:05,460
Oh, this is, what's his name?

3372
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:07,960
Yeah, this is, what's his name?

3373
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:08,780
Yeah, the old guy.

3374
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,100
The old geezer, the 90 year old, the

3375
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:11,280
guy.

3376
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,260
The only guy who's still on top of

3377
01:58:13,260 --> 01:58:15,240
Arctic frost in our government.

3378
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:15,840
All right, good.

3379
01:58:15,940 --> 01:58:16,360
We love him.

3380
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:17,320
Leasing today.

3381
01:58:17,660 --> 01:58:22,100
I started the investigation into Arctic frost.

3382
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:24,360
July 2022.

3383
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:28,720
Based on whistleblower disclosures.

3384
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,280
Based on these disclosures.

3385
01:58:31,460 --> 01:58:36,300
We know that weaponized taxpayer funded agents and

3386
01:58:36,300 --> 01:58:39,520
prosecutors advanced the investigation.

3387
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:47,000
As Arctic frost advanced 92 Republican organizations or

3388
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,560
individuals were targeted.

3389
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:50,980
Not just Trump.

3390
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:53,400
And they were added to its scope.

3391
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,760
And author of that targeting list was special

3392
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:01,840
agent Walsh and Walter Gerardino.

3393
01:59:02,340 --> 01:59:07,460
He's the same weaponized agent who was involved

3394
01:59:07,460 --> 01:59:12,640
in other cases against Republicans, including Peter Navarro.

3395
01:59:12,900 --> 01:59:18,320
We've learned Jack Smith secretly obtained phone record

3396
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:21,440
data from at least eight senators and one

3397
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:22,060
congressman.

3398
01:59:22,060 --> 01:59:25,440
I've recently been informed by Verizon that at

3399
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:29,660
least 11 members with Verizon accounts were affected.

3400
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:34,160
That includes a hard line for Senator Cruz's

3401
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:38,860
office and a staffer cell phone for former

3402
01:59:38,860 --> 01:59:40,040
Senator Loeffler.

3403
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:45,880
AT&T informed me they challenged the legal

3404
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:51,160
basis for Jack Smith's efforts and Smith backed

3405
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:51,540
down.

3406
01:59:51,860 --> 01:59:53,240
We already had this, though.

3407
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:54,340
I thought we had this.

3408
01:59:54,380 --> 01:59:56,320
Yeah, well, he keeps repeating his Grassley.

3409
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:57,880
And so it's like.

3410
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:01,540
I keep getting the sense that this is

3411
02:00:01,540 --> 02:00:03,100
a commercial for AT&T.

3412
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,120
Because we protect your privacy.

3413
02:00:07,580 --> 02:00:09,740
Pay no attention to that building on Second

3414
02:00:09,740 --> 02:00:11,520
Street in San Francisco where we tap the

3415
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:12,400
entire Internet.

3416
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:15,760
The building with no windows.

3417
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:17,220
Yeah, the building is beautiful.

3418
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:18,360
It's a beautiful window.

3419
02:00:18,460 --> 02:00:18,820
Beautiful.

3420
02:00:18,820 --> 02:00:20,580
Yeah, you can stand out in front of

3421
02:00:20,580 --> 02:00:21,780
it and point at it and the cops

3422
02:00:21,780 --> 02:00:22,320
will show up.

3423
02:00:22,420 --> 02:00:22,580
Yeah.

3424
02:00:24,540 --> 02:00:26,020
Yeah, you don't have to play any more

3425
02:00:26,020 --> 02:00:26,220
of this.

3426
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,180
But this is that this is getting no

3427
02:00:28,180 --> 02:00:31,880
coverage whatsoever by the mainstream media at all.

3428
02:00:32,540 --> 02:00:34,280
And I'd like to know why.

3429
02:00:37,140 --> 02:00:38,820
It's like this story we covered earlier in

3430
02:00:38,820 --> 02:00:39,180
the show.

3431
02:00:39,300 --> 02:00:40,900
And it's another thing you brought it.

3432
02:00:40,980 --> 02:00:42,060
You brought it in the clip.

3433
02:00:42,380 --> 02:00:44,700
No, zero coverage.

3434
02:00:44,700 --> 02:00:47,840
No, but we need we need to do.

3435
02:00:49,980 --> 02:00:52,180
War crimes, war crimes.

3436
02:00:52,580 --> 02:00:54,660
So this is a follow up, not to

3437
02:00:54,660 --> 02:00:57,700
drop the Arctic frost and go to Jack

3438
02:00:57,700 --> 02:00:58,480
Smith called.

3439
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:00,820
This is another thing that nothing's going to

3440
02:01:00,820 --> 02:01:01,360
come of it.

3441
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,180
I'll be definitely dogging this hearing when it

3442
02:01:04,180 --> 02:01:04,620
happens.

3443
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:07,320
Special Counselor Jack Smith has been called to

3444
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,020
appear before the House Judiciary Committee in a

3445
02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:10,180
letter.

3446
02:01:10,180 --> 02:01:12,440
Chairman Jim Jordan told Smith this is over

3447
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,680
the prosecution of President Trump.

3448
02:01:15,140 --> 02:01:18,060
Smith investigated President Trump for allegedly meddling in

3449
02:01:18,060 --> 02:01:19,220
the 2020 election.

3450
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,620
He eventually brought criminal charges against Trump, one

3451
02:01:22,620 --> 02:01:25,420
related to the election, another for allegedly mishandling

3452
02:01:25,420 --> 02:01:26,720
classified documents.

3453
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,120
Both cases were dropped after Trump won reelection.

3454
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:33,520
The subpoena also demands all documents and communications

3455
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,100
related to Smith's time as special counsel.

3456
02:01:36,620 --> 02:01:39,660
Smith is expected to appear on December 17th.

3457
02:01:39,660 --> 02:01:40,180
Oh, yeah.

3458
02:01:41,220 --> 02:01:41,540
OK.

3459
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,900
Another thing, nothing will come of it.

3460
02:01:44,140 --> 02:01:46,920
No, this is embarrassing.

3461
02:01:47,460 --> 02:01:50,100
Well, I still think that there's more going

3462
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:52,140
on at the Department of Justice because Bondi

3463
02:01:52,140 --> 02:01:53,360
will do whatever she's told.

3464
02:01:53,900 --> 02:01:56,900
The whole point of putting her in charge

3465
02:01:56,900 --> 02:02:02,540
and I presume Patel and Code Bongino is

3466
02:02:02,540 --> 02:02:04,620
to route out the bad actors and all

3467
02:02:04,620 --> 02:02:06,480
the nonsense and all the crap that's been

3468
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,400
going on for years and years and years.

3469
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:10,580
And I think some of it will come

3470
02:02:10,580 --> 02:02:10,860
out.

3471
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:16,720
I don't know about this particular item, but

3472
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:19,020
we're going to it has to be.

3473
02:02:19,260 --> 02:02:20,920
Trump is going as long as he stays

3474
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:21,460
alive.

3475
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:23,780
We had a perfect MRI, by the way.

3476
02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:25,500
So, oh, yeah, everything's perfect.

3477
02:02:25,860 --> 02:02:26,640
Best ever.

3478
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:28,780
In fact, he aced it.

3479
02:02:28,980 --> 02:02:29,780
He aced his MRI.

3480
02:02:29,780 --> 02:02:31,040
He aced the MRI.

3481
02:02:31,380 --> 02:02:31,760
That's a good.

3482
02:02:32,540 --> 02:02:34,160
I got an x-ray the other day.

3483
02:02:34,300 --> 02:02:34,760
I aced it.

3484
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:36,180
I aced it, man.

3485
02:02:36,220 --> 02:02:36,700
No problem.

3486
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:41,600
Yeah, he's out for blood for everything.

3487
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,260
He is ripping apart all of these systems,

3488
02:02:44,420 --> 02:02:45,200
all of it.

3489
02:02:46,060 --> 02:02:47,200
And do as best he can.

3490
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,460
Don't forget USAID shut down.

3491
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:49,880
I mean.

3492
02:02:50,060 --> 02:02:51,320
Yeah, that's really good.

3493
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:52,120
That's a big deal.

3494
02:02:52,220 --> 02:02:53,020
A huge thing.

3495
02:02:53,220 --> 02:02:55,180
Of course, the Democrats will get in because

3496
02:02:55,180 --> 02:02:58,540
nobody votes in the midterms, especially the lazy

3497
02:02:58,540 --> 02:02:59,200
Republicans.

3498
02:02:59,780 --> 02:03:01,780
And so they'll get back in and they'll

3499
02:03:01,780 --> 02:03:03,260
make a mess of things once they get

3500
02:03:03,260 --> 02:03:04,580
back to the House.

3501
02:03:04,740 --> 02:03:05,540
They won't get the Senate.

3502
02:03:05,540 --> 02:03:07,320
That's why you activate Flynn.

3503
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:09,980
Get everybody afraid of the Muslims.

3504
02:03:10,100 --> 02:03:11,800
Oh, we got to rip out Republicans.

3505
02:03:11,820 --> 02:03:13,180
I don't think that's going to do the

3506
02:03:13,180 --> 02:03:13,520
trick.

3507
02:03:13,940 --> 02:03:15,060
But maybe, maybe not.

3508
02:03:15,260 --> 02:03:17,520
Now, I have a pre-donation clip.

3509
02:03:17,700 --> 02:03:18,540
OK, perfect.

3510
02:03:18,700 --> 02:03:20,920
And can I just remind everybody, I was

3511
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:27,460
talking to a friend yesterday and he works

3512
02:03:27,460 --> 02:03:29,300
for a very big Christian organization.

3513
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,440
And his wife, she is, she's a no

3514
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:35,300
agenda nut.

3515
02:03:35,860 --> 02:03:37,140
She loves the show.

3516
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,380
He says to me, my wife listens more

3517
02:03:39,380 --> 02:03:41,360
to you and John than to me, which,

3518
02:03:41,500 --> 02:03:42,860
by the way, she's a good woman.

3519
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:44,960
A good woman will keep your marriage healthy

3520
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,350
for a long, long time.

3521
02:03:47,060 --> 02:03:47,200
Yep.

3522
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:49,980
Another person on the call who also listens.

3523
02:03:50,140 --> 02:03:52,180
She's probably listening while she's cleaning.

3524
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:55,440
That's how good of a woman she is.

3525
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:57,560
OK, thanks, John.

3526
02:03:57,680 --> 02:03:58,560
I'm really helpful.

3527
02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,320
Very helpful.

3528
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,180
And his colleagues, he says, hey, you know,

3529
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,680
I didn't realize it, but when you guys

3530
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:08,040
go to thank people, donation, there's like a

3531
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:09,560
whole hour of show after that.

3532
02:04:09,820 --> 02:04:10,880
I said, yes.

3533
02:04:11,540 --> 02:04:12,960
So I look down like, oh, there's an

3534
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:13,100
hour.

3535
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,520
Yes, we thank people who are executive and

3536
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:17,920
associate executive producers.

3537
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:20,260
And then we come back with more show.

3538
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:22,020
Yeah, it's amazing.

3539
02:04:22,340 --> 02:04:24,720
People think, oh, donations, guess the show's over.

3540
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,040
We don't do donations at the end of

3541
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:27,380
the show.

3542
02:04:27,380 --> 02:04:29,540
No, but in fact, in fact, we even

3543
02:04:29,540 --> 02:04:30,820
have a tip at the end after the

3544
02:04:30,820 --> 02:04:32,260
second round of donation of the day.

3545
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:35,220
And there's stuff in the donation segment that

3546
02:04:35,220 --> 02:04:36,140
you are missing.

3547
02:04:36,980 --> 02:04:39,260
Yes, every so often there's some really great

3548
02:04:39,260 --> 02:04:39,560
stuff.

3549
02:04:39,820 --> 02:04:41,260
More often than every so.

3550
02:04:41,980 --> 02:04:43,480
Anyway, your pre donation clip.

3551
02:04:44,460 --> 02:04:45,080
Which is what?

3552
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:47,780
So this woman, Lily Gaddis, I don't know

3553
02:04:47,780 --> 02:04:48,580
if you're familiar with it.

3554
02:04:48,580 --> 02:04:49,780
She's a YouTuber.

3555
02:04:50,620 --> 02:04:50,800
Oh.

3556
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:54,980
She is a character on YouTube that is

3557
02:04:54,980 --> 02:04:57,360
and she got demonetized and kicked off.

3558
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,000
And that's the point of the donation segment,

3559
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:03,320
because she was reliant on on YouTube for

3560
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:04,220
her income.

3561
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:05,700
She was making good money.

3562
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:06,920
Oh, no, no, no.

3563
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:07,720
But they kicked her off.

3564
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:10,180
Now, I will remind people may have seen

3565
02:05:10,180 --> 02:05:11,240
these clips, but she does.

3566
02:05:11,620 --> 02:05:15,620
Sometimes she does the her show, which is

3567
02:05:15,620 --> 02:05:17,860
bitching and moaning or giving advice or whatever,

3568
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:20,120
and she'll do it in blackface.

3569
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,620
You do find the most interesting and entertaining

3570
02:05:24,620 --> 02:05:25,480
people, John.

3571
02:05:25,700 --> 02:05:25,940
You do.

3572
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:28,200
So Lily going blackface, but she's the only

3573
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:28,800
blackface.

3574
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:30,140
Her hands are still white.

3575
02:05:30,340 --> 02:05:32,060
They're like bone white.

3576
02:05:32,420 --> 02:05:35,980
And she's in complete blackface lecturing black women.

3577
02:05:36,180 --> 02:05:36,560
Oh, good.

3578
02:05:36,780 --> 02:05:38,520
And I have to say.

3579
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,940
Yeah, it's racist, and I guess it would

3580
02:05:41,940 --> 02:05:44,680
be offensive if it wasn't so funny.

3581
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:48,440
And but so now she's singing the blues.

3582
02:05:48,580 --> 02:05:49,540
And this is the reason.

3583
02:05:49,540 --> 02:05:50,960
This will be hard.

3584
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:53,240
Will this work by not seeing her doing

3585
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:54,160
this in blackface?

3586
02:05:54,340 --> 02:05:55,980
No, she's not in blackface where she's doing

3587
02:05:55,980 --> 02:05:56,160
this.

3588
02:05:56,220 --> 02:05:58,360
She's now holding a mic because he can't

3589
02:05:58,360 --> 02:05:59,140
even talk into it.

3590
02:05:59,260 --> 02:05:59,440
Right.

3591
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,140
And she's got lost her, I guess, her

3592
02:06:02,140 --> 02:06:03,980
producer because it doesn't sound good.

3593
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:05,040
Bad audio.

3594
02:06:05,460 --> 02:06:08,180
And she is lamenting the fact that she

3595
02:06:08,180 --> 02:06:10,720
got kicked off and she's sorry because she's

3596
02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:14,420
just being herself blackface, just being herself as

3597
02:06:14,420 --> 02:06:15,380
a goofball.

3598
02:06:15,380 --> 02:06:18,380
And it says to me, this is why

3599
02:06:18,380 --> 02:06:22,580
we don't rely on some something like YouTube

3600
02:06:22,580 --> 02:06:24,420
for our income, or we don't rely on

3601
02:06:24,420 --> 02:06:26,600
advertisers and all the rest of it, because

3602
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:29,260
this can happen to us if we didn't

3603
02:06:29,260 --> 02:06:32,080
go through the trouble and expense of having

3604
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:33,160
our own servers.

3605
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:35,440
We have our own infrastructure.

3606
02:06:35,940 --> 02:06:39,260
We have our own RSS fees, this admin.

3607
02:06:39,580 --> 02:06:41,600
Yes, which costs money.

3608
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:45,440
And we have we have these expensive, but

3609
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:47,440
but we don't have to worry about this

3610
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:48,320
woman's plight.

3611
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:51,060
I have officially been demonetized on YouTube, which

3612
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:52,840
was my sole form of income.

3613
02:06:53,460 --> 02:06:56,040
Aside from a few tiny little outlets here

3614
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,420
and there, YouTube was my main moneymaker.

3615
02:06:58,540 --> 02:07:00,580
And I'm not I'm kind of stupid.

3616
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:02,240
I don't have a five year plan.

3617
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:03,200
I don't plan ahead.

3618
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:04,580
I live in the moment.

3619
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:06,280
I put it all out there.

3620
02:07:06,300 --> 02:07:07,140
I'm an open book.

3621
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:08,700
I live with my heart on my sleeve.

3622
02:07:08,780 --> 02:07:10,520
You know, if I say something, I mean

3623
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:10,700
it.

3624
02:07:10,700 --> 02:07:12,440
I couldn't censor myself.

3625
02:07:12,580 --> 02:07:14,040
I refuse to censor myself.

3626
02:07:14,460 --> 02:07:15,300
It's just impossible.

3627
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:16,260
I really tried.

3628
02:07:16,340 --> 02:07:17,940
I really tried my best, believe it or

3629
02:07:17,940 --> 02:07:18,200
not.

3630
02:07:18,460 --> 02:07:20,200
What you saw on YouTube was the vanilla

3631
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:20,600
me.

3632
02:07:20,860 --> 02:07:22,280
It was like the vanilla of the vanilla.

3633
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:24,860
I tried my best, but they want to

3634
02:07:24,860 --> 02:07:26,180
keep a real down, OK?

3635
02:07:26,220 --> 02:07:26,960
And that's what they're doing.

3636
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,280
Yeah, we would not have lasted more than

3637
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:32,580
18 years if we relied on any third

3638
02:07:32,580 --> 02:07:32,920
party.

3639
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:34,500
We wouldn't last 18 months.

3640
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:37,200
Yeah, it's it's sad when I when I

3641
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:37,900
see this happen.

3642
02:07:37,900 --> 02:07:41,040
And when people say to me, hey, man,

3643
02:07:41,380 --> 02:07:43,720
why don't you stream the show on X

3644
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:47,160
like Tim Poole and Tucker and other smart

3645
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:47,600
people?

3646
02:07:48,420 --> 02:07:50,640
And I don't answer that, but I will

3647
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:51,380
answer it here.

3648
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,760
Because if for whatever reason, because whenever you

3649
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:59,180
have a big the sensor button, it can

3650
02:07:59,180 --> 02:08:00,440
be used against you.

3651
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:02,680
If it exists, it can and probably will

3652
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:04,000
be used against you eventually.

3653
02:08:05,700 --> 02:08:06,960
And here's the other problem.

3654
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:08,040
Let me finish my thought.

3655
02:08:08,340 --> 02:08:08,440
OK.

3656
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:12,100
If we build up an audience on X

3657
02:08:12,100 --> 02:08:14,120
who are used to watching it there, and

3658
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:15,760
then all of a sudden it goes away.

3659
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,240
So you lose your audience at the whim

3660
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:19,740
of a madman.

3661
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:22,560
This is exactly what I was going to

3662
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:22,760
say.

3663
02:08:22,900 --> 02:08:26,240
And you obviously caught me in the process.

3664
02:08:26,500 --> 02:08:29,580
Well, yes, you get they get dependent on

3665
02:08:29,580 --> 02:08:30,700
the on the outlet.

3666
02:08:31,060 --> 02:08:31,500
Yes.

3667
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:33,100
And then you go away.

3668
02:08:33,180 --> 02:08:34,260
They kicked you off the outlet.

3669
02:08:34,300 --> 02:08:35,700
And the next thing you know, what happened

3670
02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:36,040
to them?

3671
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:36,520
I don't know.

3672
02:08:36,660 --> 02:08:36,980
Who cares?

3673
02:08:37,180 --> 02:08:38,600
This is the entire loss.

3674
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,180
This is the entire reason that Dave Jones

3675
02:08:41,180 --> 02:08:44,840
and I started podcast index dot org, which

3676
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,420
we make no money from.

3677
02:08:46,940 --> 02:08:49,640
And we start over five years ago when

3678
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:53,360
Apple started de-platforming, not the monitor, but

3679
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:57,660
de-platforming podcasts from Apple podcasts.

3680
02:08:58,100 --> 02:09:01,100
And because at the time, all all apps,

3681
02:09:01,100 --> 02:09:04,920
all podcast apps were all checking Apple's database,

3682
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:06,220
which they leave open.

3683
02:09:07,060 --> 02:09:09,380
They disappeared from all the other apps.

3684
02:09:09,820 --> 02:09:12,480
This is the antithesis of podcasting.

3685
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:14,960
And so that's why you want to get

3686
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:16,340
a modern podcast app.

3687
02:09:16,500 --> 02:09:19,120
So your favorite and these shows and they

3688
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,040
do video, too, by the way, you can

3689
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:23,240
you can do video on those podcast apps.

3690
02:09:23,260 --> 02:09:27,120
They work quite well, actually, you know, get

3691
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,820
smart, people figure it out.

3692
02:09:31,900 --> 02:09:34,620
You know, we literally saw Twitter going from

3693
02:09:34,620 --> 02:09:36,420
banning people on the right.

3694
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:38,220
And now X is banning people on the

3695
02:09:38,220 --> 02:09:38,420
left.

3696
02:09:38,540 --> 02:09:40,200
I mean, you do not want to be

3697
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:41,420
anywhere near a ban hammer.

3698
02:09:41,500 --> 02:09:42,620
It's just that's just the fact.

3699
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,160
So, yes, the only problem we still seem

3700
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:48,100
to have, which I don't think is something

3701
02:09:48,100 --> 02:09:50,980
we can solve, is emails.

3702
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,420
And, you know, and Tina always she's always,

3703
02:09:54,500 --> 02:09:55,600
oh, happened again.

3704
02:09:56,500 --> 02:09:58,720
John had to send out another email because,

3705
02:09:58,820 --> 02:10:00,860
you know, you have all your metrics, you

3706
02:10:00,860 --> 02:10:01,800
know how it works.

3707
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:05,660
And these emails, they get whether it's the

3708
02:10:05,660 --> 02:10:08,700
wrong emoji or you put Trump in there

3709
02:10:08,700 --> 02:10:12,340
three times instead of two outfits like Gmail

3710
02:10:12,340 --> 02:10:14,540
will just market a spam.

3711
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:17,660
And then it goes away or doesn't even

3712
02:10:17,660 --> 02:10:18,480
show up at all.

3713
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:20,480
The problem with Gmail is it is inconsistent.

3714
02:10:20,700 --> 02:10:22,880
The problem with Gmail is everyone uses it.

3715
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:23,520
That's the problem.

3716
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:24,740
That is the real problem.

3717
02:10:24,860 --> 02:10:26,140
Yeah, that's the real problem.

3718
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:29,620
And so, yes, I sent this thing out

3719
02:10:29,620 --> 02:10:32,580
because there was no I didn't get enough

3720
02:10:32,580 --> 02:10:35,740
kickback on the auto replies.

3721
02:10:35,860 --> 02:10:38,300
I used to have like like 10 people

3722
02:10:38,300 --> 02:10:38,800
or something.

3723
02:10:38,900 --> 02:10:41,820
They always say 10 to 15 auto replies.

3724
02:10:41,900 --> 02:10:43,180
Come back out of office.

3725
02:10:43,420 --> 02:10:47,580
And it was more pronounced on the weekends.

3726
02:10:47,580 --> 02:10:49,060
But this happens all the time.

3727
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:49,560
None.

3728
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:50,400
Zero.

3729
02:10:50,740 --> 02:10:51,680
Hey, by the way, none.

3730
02:10:52,460 --> 02:10:56,920
So who still puts out of office replies

3731
02:10:56,920 --> 02:10:57,640
on their email?

3732
02:10:57,780 --> 02:10:59,060
Who does this anymore?

3733
02:10:59,320 --> 02:11:00,740
Lots of people, more people than you.

3734
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:02,360
That's got to be a boomer move if

3735
02:11:02,360 --> 02:11:03,280
I ever saw one.

3736
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:05,180
Yeah, well, but it's a metric.

3737
02:11:05,500 --> 02:11:06,280
You're never out of the office.

3738
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:07,840
It's not that many, but it's enough that

3739
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:08,560
I notice it.

3740
02:11:08,660 --> 02:11:09,500
You're never not gone.

3741
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:12,200
So I sent a note out saying if

3742
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,900
you didn't I had more responses on this

3743
02:11:14,900 --> 02:11:15,780
particular one.

3744
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:18,300
I had at least 50 people.

3745
02:11:18,460 --> 02:11:19,740
And that means there's got to be at

3746
02:11:19,740 --> 02:11:21,460
least, you know, a factor of five.

3747
02:11:22,220 --> 02:11:24,140
More that said, no, I never got the

3748
02:11:24,140 --> 02:11:24,320
email.

3749
02:11:24,380 --> 02:11:25,360
I looked in my box.

3750
02:11:25,460 --> 02:11:25,940
I looked here.

3751
02:11:26,020 --> 02:11:26,500
I looked there.

3752
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:27,180
I looked everywhere.

3753
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:28,300
And it wasn't in here.

3754
02:11:28,380 --> 02:11:29,100
It wasn't a promotion.

3755
02:11:29,260 --> 02:11:30,100
It wasn't in spam.

3756
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:31,480
It didn't come.

3757
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,740
And I got like, wow, there's like one

3758
02:11:34,740 --> 02:11:36,140
after the other after the other.

3759
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:38,600
They had sent this note back saying that

3760
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:39,460
they never heard it.

3761
02:11:39,580 --> 02:11:42,240
They never saw the email and including the

3762
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:44,440
ones that really bother me, which is I've

3763
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:46,040
always gotten the email.

3764
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:48,980
It's always come except this time.

3765
02:11:49,620 --> 02:11:50,460
So what?

3766
02:11:50,460 --> 02:11:51,740
How does that work?

3767
02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:52,660
There was not.

3768
02:11:52,740 --> 02:11:55,660
I'm using the same template for the email

3769
02:11:55,660 --> 02:11:56,880
that I always use.

3770
02:11:57,700 --> 02:12:00,660
Basically, it's the same email, except it's got,

3771
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,160
you know, the tomorrow's show is different every

3772
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:03,500
time.

3773
02:12:03,620 --> 02:12:04,220
That's the main thing.

3774
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:05,480
And the memes are different.

3775
02:12:05,620 --> 02:12:07,540
And so is the hypocrite of the week.

3776
02:12:07,580 --> 02:12:10,180
They're all different, but it's the same template.

3777
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:14,540
And I go light on the headline.

3778
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:16,420
I can't figure out for the life of

3779
02:12:16,420 --> 02:12:17,280
me why this one got.

3780
02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:18,560
This is this.

3781
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:19,720
And I have to credit.

3782
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:20,960
I have to say this has got to

3783
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:22,160
be male chimp side.

3784
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:23,460
Could be.

3785
02:12:23,620 --> 02:12:24,280
Could be.

3786
02:12:24,380 --> 02:12:26,420
I mean, I just have to remind you

3787
02:12:26,420 --> 02:12:30,140
that when we had pod show before it

3788
02:12:30,140 --> 02:12:33,540
was Mevio, that we got a deal from

3789
02:12:33,540 --> 02:12:36,960
a company that was also funded by the

3790
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:38,820
same investors, Kleiner Perkins.

3791
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:40,760
And I think maybe it was Sequoia only.

3792
02:12:40,900 --> 02:12:41,940
But, you know, the big guys.

3793
02:12:42,740 --> 02:12:45,760
And that was a company that made deals

3794
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:50,700
with the big email providers, Yahoo, Gmail, probably

3795
02:12:50,700 --> 02:12:51,260
AOL.

3796
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:53,880
And you had to pay because we had

3797
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:55,980
customer service emails that needed to go out.

3798
02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:58,460
You know, you register, you get an email

3799
02:12:58,460 --> 02:13:01,840
and you had to pay these companies so

3800
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:03,620
that you would be guaranteed delivery.

3801
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:05,480
It was a huge and was like $10

3802
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:07,980
,000 a month just for starters.

3803
02:13:07,980 --> 02:13:10,580
Yes, I don't do not believe that MailChimp

3804
02:13:10,580 --> 02:13:11,620
has not paid this.

3805
02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:12,800
This bribe.

3806
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:15,240
Well, then there's the problem we need.

3807
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:16,940
Who who takes who pays the bribe?

3808
02:13:16,980 --> 02:13:18,060
We got to go with those guys.

3809
02:13:19,020 --> 02:13:21,400
Well, I think I think MailChimp does pay

3810
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:22,540
the they pay the bribe.

3811
02:13:22,620 --> 02:13:23,060
Well, they got it.

3812
02:13:23,140 --> 02:13:25,080
But I don't care because it's still having

3813
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:25,800
him having fails.

3814
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:26,940
I think a lot of it happens on

3815
02:13:26,940 --> 02:13:29,180
the MailChimp side doesn't go out or who

3816
02:13:29,180 --> 02:13:29,740
knows what.

3817
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:31,480
Whatever the case is, a couple of systems

3818
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:32,400
are going to check out.

3819
02:13:32,660 --> 02:13:34,180
It's a pain in the ass.

3820
02:13:34,260 --> 02:13:36,040
I expect to do this in January.

3821
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:39,140
And but it's like it was a very

3822
02:13:39,140 --> 02:13:40,100
annoying moment.

3823
02:13:40,580 --> 02:13:42,040
Well, to send out this second email.

3824
02:13:42,180 --> 02:13:43,500
And here's the problem with doing it.

3825
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:45,120
I don't mind doing it because it's easy

3826
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:47,320
to crank out a second email because they

3827
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:49,480
charge as a flat fee so I can

3828
02:13:49,480 --> 02:13:51,180
send an email out every hour if I

3829
02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:51,620
wanted to.

3830
02:13:52,020 --> 02:13:53,580
But every time you send out a second

3831
02:13:53,580 --> 02:13:55,760
email, you get a bunch of people that

3832
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:58,300
see it and go, oh, yeah, I'm unsubscribing.

3833
02:13:58,380 --> 02:13:59,880
So they take themselves off the list.

3834
02:14:00,140 --> 02:14:02,740
So we have an X number of unsubscribers

3835
02:14:02,740 --> 02:14:05,340
that go exponentially when you send out too

3836
02:14:05,340 --> 02:14:05,960
much email.

3837
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:08,580
I know you're spamming me, bro.

3838
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:11,040
I don't want you to spam Dvorak.

3839
02:14:11,120 --> 02:14:14,060
Hey, with that, I want to thank you

3840
02:14:14,060 --> 02:14:14,720
for your courage.

3841
02:14:14,780 --> 02:14:16,000
Say in the morning to you, the man

3842
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:17,540
who put the sea in Cuellar.

3843
02:14:17,740 --> 02:14:18,900
Say hello to my friend on the other

3844
02:14:18,900 --> 02:14:19,040
end.

3845
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:21,420
The one, the only Mr. John C.

3846
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:23,760
Dvorak.

3847
02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:26,700
Yeah, in the morning, you had a great

3848
02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:27,180
admirership.

3849
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,060
Seaboost on the graphite in the air, surfs

3850
02:14:29,060 --> 02:14:31,600
in the water and all the names are

3851
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:32,140
nice out there.

3852
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:33,160
Hold on a second.

3853
02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:34,640
You don't move.

3854
02:14:37,180 --> 02:14:38,220
All right.

3855
02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:40,060
One thousand five hundred and thirteen.

3856
02:14:41,320 --> 02:14:42,580
It's cold outside.

3857
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:43,880
What are you doing, people?

3858
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:46,260
Those are people who are listening live to

3859
02:14:46,260 --> 02:14:47,260
the show as we speak.

3860
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:49,320
Many of them are in the troll room

3861
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:50,860
being interactive.

3862
02:14:51,020 --> 02:14:51,520
They're helping.

3863
02:14:51,720 --> 02:14:52,480
They're engaging.

3864
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:54,320
They're engaging with our content.

3865
02:14:54,860 --> 02:14:57,380
That's how we got the notice about the

3866
02:14:57,380 --> 02:14:58,580
dentist at the.

3867
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,360
Oh, yeah, Epstein Island.

3868
02:15:01,540 --> 02:15:01,860
Exactly.

3869
02:15:01,860 --> 02:15:02,580
They help.

3870
02:15:02,860 --> 02:15:03,480
They're helpful.

3871
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:05,340
It's like our own studio audience, but they

3872
02:15:05,340 --> 02:15:06,180
can talk back.

3873
02:15:06,940 --> 02:15:08,980
And that's just one of the thousands of

3874
02:15:08,980 --> 02:15:10,200
producers that we have.

3875
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:12,280
As I said, they're listening live and we

3876
02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:13,040
talked about it earlier.

3877
02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:15,860
Get yourself a modern podcast app at podcastapps

3878
02:15:15,860 --> 02:15:16,360
.com.

3879
02:15:17,180 --> 02:15:19,380
That'll even notify you when we go live.

3880
02:15:19,460 --> 02:15:21,320
And then you just tap on that notification

3881
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,180
and you hear the live stream in your

3882
02:15:23,180 --> 02:15:23,980
podcast app.

3883
02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:25,000
Mind blown.

3884
02:15:25,860 --> 02:15:28,240
And because of the pod ping technology included

3885
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:30,440
in all of these apps, when we post

3886
02:15:30,440 --> 02:15:32,580
the show, you're not waiting around like a

3887
02:15:32,580 --> 02:15:33,640
schlub watching every post.

3888
02:15:33,780 --> 02:15:34,100
Wow.

3889
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:34,380
Yeah.

3890
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:35,300
I just got the show.

3891
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:36,220
It's not.

3892
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:38,240
You didn't upload to Apple yet, man.

3893
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:40,160
Hey, are we on Spotify yet?

3894
02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:42,620
I don't think Spotify approved us.

3895
02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:43,160
Let me see.

3896
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:46,320
Creators.spotify.com.

3897
02:15:46,420 --> 02:15:47,200
Then we can bitch.

3898
02:15:47,500 --> 02:15:47,720
Yeah.

3899
02:15:47,740 --> 02:15:48,400
Well, let me see.

3900
02:15:48,900 --> 02:15:50,400
First, they were stealing our material.

3901
02:15:50,660 --> 02:15:53,300
First, they were stealing it without our permission.

3902
02:15:54,820 --> 02:15:55,660
Auto up.

3903
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:56,780
Oh, oh, we're on.

3904
02:15:56,860 --> 02:15:57,240
We're up.

3905
02:15:57,340 --> 02:15:57,820
No, we're not.

3906
02:15:58,140 --> 02:15:58,360
Nope.

3907
02:15:58,420 --> 02:15:59,440
We're still processing.

3908
02:15:59,580 --> 02:16:00,540
We're still under review.

3909
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:02,780
So that means we're not, we're not getting

3910
02:16:02,780 --> 02:16:03,040
in.

3911
02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:04,340
We're not going to get in.

3912
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:06,320
We're no good.

3913
02:16:06,580 --> 02:16:08,880
This is imagine we're no good, but I'm

3914
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:09,920
not going to get us in.

3915
02:16:09,980 --> 02:16:10,180
No.

3916
02:16:10,340 --> 02:16:12,400
Imagine if we had built up a following

3917
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:15,280
of people listening on Spotify because from day

3918
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:16,760
one, when they started and they had that

3919
02:16:16,760 --> 02:16:18,460
contract, I'm like, no, we're not doing that.

3920
02:16:18,860 --> 02:16:20,240
Then you said, no, we're not doing that

3921
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:20,900
bad, bad, bad.

3922
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:23,060
And then they took us off.

3923
02:16:24,940 --> 02:16:27,400
And imagine if there were tens of thousands

3924
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:29,780
of people listening or hundreds of thousands, and

3925
02:16:29,780 --> 02:16:30,900
then all of a sudden it's gone.

3926
02:16:31,820 --> 02:16:34,020
So no, you can't count on these people.

3927
02:16:34,540 --> 02:16:35,580
They are no good.

3928
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:37,139
We of course are great.

3929
02:16:37,980 --> 02:16:40,660
And that's why people help us in many

3930
02:16:40,660 --> 02:16:41,340
different ways.

3931
02:16:41,740 --> 02:16:43,040
Time, talent, or treasure.

3932
02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:45,160
We pioneered the value for value model, which

3933
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:47,180
exactly what John was talking about.

3934
02:16:47,260 --> 02:16:49,900
We don't rely on any platform to pay

3935
02:16:49,900 --> 02:16:50,200
us.

3936
02:16:50,500 --> 02:16:51,820
We don't have ads inserted.

3937
02:16:52,180 --> 02:16:53,959
You don't have to go to Patreon who

3938
02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:56,540
ultimately, you know, the Patreon winds up taking

3939
02:16:56,540 --> 02:16:57,860
the money on both ends.

3940
02:16:58,700 --> 02:17:02,559
So if you have a Patreon account and

3941
02:17:02,559 --> 02:17:06,120
your people subscribe to your level, whatever it

3942
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:07,719
is, which is a fixed amount, which we

3943
02:17:07,719 --> 02:17:08,580
don't believe in.

3944
02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:10,000
No, not at all.

3945
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:11,980
It makes no sense, but okay.

3946
02:17:12,740 --> 02:17:17,120
Then they take, I think 7% of

3947
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:20,440
the money you get, that's their processing fee.

3948
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:22,780
But the way it works is they also

3949
02:17:22,780 --> 02:17:25,080
take the processing fee from the person who

3950
02:17:25,080 --> 02:17:25,620
sent it.

3951
02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:27,780
Oh, so they're double dipping.

3952
02:17:27,980 --> 02:17:28,260
They are.

3953
02:17:28,459 --> 02:17:29,639
This is what I believe.

3954
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:30,559
This is what I've heard.

3955
02:17:31,559 --> 02:17:33,000
It makes sense, that's what I do.

3956
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:34,680
Well, yeah, if we were running Patreon, we

3957
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:35,360
would, absolutely.

3958
02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:36,299
Yeah, of course.

3959
02:17:36,620 --> 02:17:39,200
So we also like other ways of people

3960
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:39,879
helping us.

3961
02:17:40,139 --> 02:17:41,559
We've got end of show mixes.

3962
02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:42,719
We have the producers everywhere.

3963
02:17:42,900 --> 02:17:43,600
Producers everywhere.

3964
02:17:44,120 --> 02:17:46,100
I mean, who else has someone who just

3965
02:17:46,100 --> 02:17:48,080
did a document, who did a documentary on

3966
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:49,700
drug boats and blowing them up and wasn't

3967
02:17:49,700 --> 02:17:50,639
allowed to show the footage?

3968
02:17:50,740 --> 02:17:51,059
Come on.

3969
02:17:51,639 --> 02:17:53,860
I mean, these, by the way, I should

3970
02:17:53,860 --> 02:17:54,920
probably mention this.

3971
02:17:56,959 --> 02:17:58,580
We, where did I put it?

3972
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:02,299
We got a note from Rob, the constitutional

3973
02:18:02,299 --> 02:18:04,760
lawyer about Sharia law in Texas.

3974
02:18:05,860 --> 02:18:06,299
Interested?

3975
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:09,559
Of course.

3976
02:18:10,740 --> 02:18:11,420
You and John...

3977
02:18:11,420 --> 02:18:12,440
Is the Pope a Catholic?

3978
02:18:12,940 --> 02:18:14,780
Does the bear crap in the woods?

3979
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:17,420
You and John have been discussing Sharia law

3980
02:18:17,420 --> 02:18:17,860
in Texas.

3981
02:18:18,020 --> 02:18:19,600
I barely know anything about Sharia law, but

3982
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:20,820
I do know a couple of things that

3983
02:18:20,820 --> 02:18:21,780
you might find enlightening.

3984
02:18:21,780 --> 02:18:25,879
Bottom line, nothing prevents private parties from practicing

3985
02:18:25,879 --> 02:18:29,299
Sharia law amongst themselves by agreement.

3986
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:31,780
This is something that people don't really think

3987
02:18:31,780 --> 02:18:32,040
about.

3988
02:18:32,799 --> 02:18:34,980
Parties can agree to be bound by whatever

3989
02:18:34,980 --> 02:18:36,920
body of law they want, just as long

3990
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:39,299
as it doesn't run afoul of statute or

3991
02:18:39,299 --> 02:18:41,719
some judicially recognized public policy.

3992
02:18:42,320 --> 02:18:44,940
I've actually litigated contract disputes in which parties

3993
02:18:44,940 --> 02:18:46,940
in one state have agreed to be bound

3994
02:18:46,940 --> 02:18:48,860
by the laws of another state, or even

3995
02:18:48,860 --> 02:18:50,840
in another country, or even a set of

3996
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:52,559
rules that negotiate between them.

3997
02:18:54,500 --> 02:18:56,500
After all, this is what a contract is,

3998
02:18:56,520 --> 02:18:57,940
an agreement to do things in a certain

3999
02:18:57,940 --> 02:18:58,260
way.

4000
02:18:58,820 --> 02:19:00,520
Next time you sign a contract, look for

4001
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:01,840
a choice of law provision.

4002
02:19:02,379 --> 02:19:03,719
The odds are good it will make you

4003
02:19:03,719 --> 02:19:05,660
subject to the laws of another jurisdiction.

4004
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:09,040
Second, parties can also resolve their disputes outside

4005
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:09,879
the court system.

4006
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:12,200
Typically, this takes the form of arbitration clause,

4007
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:14,920
also very common except in consumer contracts.

4008
02:19:15,559 --> 02:19:18,340
But arbitration can take many forms.

4009
02:19:18,340 --> 02:19:21,020
Judge Judy, the People's Court, all these pseudo

4010
02:19:21,020 --> 02:19:23,540
-courtroom shows are essentially arbitration.

4011
02:19:24,340 --> 02:19:25,200
See, I didn't know that.

4012
02:19:26,459 --> 02:19:28,740
Sharia-style forms are no different as long

4013
02:19:28,740 --> 02:19:30,440
as the parties agree legitimately.

4014
02:19:31,059 --> 02:19:33,760
Again, there are laws that impose restrictions, especially

4015
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:36,580
in the employment and consumer context, where one

4016
02:19:36,580 --> 02:19:37,740
party wields all the power.

4017
02:19:37,799 --> 02:19:39,219
But as long as an agreement doesn't run

4018
02:19:39,219 --> 02:19:41,820
afoul of these laws or of a recognized

4019
02:19:41,820 --> 02:19:44,379
public policy, Muslims and non-Muslims alike can

4020
02:19:44,379 --> 02:19:46,080
agree to be bound by Sharia law.

4021
02:19:46,700 --> 02:19:48,840
This is not the same thing as enacting

4022
02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:51,700
city ordinances that conflict with Texas or U

4023
02:19:51,700 --> 02:19:52,120
.S. law.

4024
02:19:52,340 --> 02:19:54,200
It must be done by private agreement, and

4025
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:55,900
both parties have to agree.

4026
02:19:56,860 --> 02:19:58,580
So this sounds kind of logical when you

4027
02:19:58,580 --> 02:19:59,260
think about it.

4028
02:19:59,420 --> 02:20:01,300
But next time you hear, Sharia law is

4029
02:20:01,300 --> 02:20:01,620
coming!

4030
02:20:02,380 --> 02:20:05,080
Well, yeah, that's like your HOA, basically.

4031
02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:07,260
That's what it is.

4032
02:20:07,640 --> 02:20:09,100
And the HOA may be worse.

4033
02:20:09,860 --> 02:20:11,640
Call the suits.com for all of your

4034
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:12,720
Sharia law disputes.

4035
02:20:12,940 --> 02:20:14,260
I'm sure Rob will be happy to help

4036
02:20:14,260 --> 02:20:14,380
you.

4037
02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:17,740
So now let us thank the artist for

4038
02:20:17,740 --> 02:20:19,740
episode 1822.

4039
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:22,280
We titled that one, uh, hold on a

4040
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:22,600
second.

4041
02:20:23,300 --> 02:20:24,320
1821, I'm sorry.

4042
02:20:24,780 --> 02:20:25,940
We titled that Genesis.

4043
02:20:26,660 --> 02:20:30,260
That was for the Genesis Project, the bailout

4044
02:20:30,260 --> 02:20:31,360
of the AI companies.

4045
02:20:32,180 --> 02:20:33,240
Great piece of art.

4046
02:20:33,360 --> 02:20:38,280
I realize you, because this, this was the

4047
02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:41,720
artist from Jock10, J-O-C-K-U

4048
02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:42,640
-10, Jock10.

4049
02:20:42,780 --> 02:20:44,160
This is comic strip blogger.

4050
02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:46,920
I don't think it's comic strip blogger.

4051
02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:48,380
I don't think so.

4052
02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:51,160
But it came from something you said in

4053
02:20:51,160 --> 02:20:54,460
the show, which I think we actually, we

4054
02:20:54,460 --> 02:20:56,400
even put that at the, did we use

4055
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:57,600
that at the beginning of the show?

4056
02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:59,640
Where you said, the phone is the devil's

4057
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:00,680
playground, man.

4058
02:21:01,260 --> 02:21:02,860
It's comic strip blogger.

4059
02:21:04,020 --> 02:21:05,860
It's not comic strip blogger.

4060
02:21:06,580 --> 02:21:07,720
Well, go back and look.

4061
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:09,580
I thought it was Jock10.

4062
02:21:10,540 --> 02:21:11,120
Did I know?

4063
02:21:11,460 --> 02:21:12,540
Did I not do that properly?

4064
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:14,020
Oh, yeah.

4065
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,760
Oh, did you credit him wrong on the

4066
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:17,260
page?

4067
02:21:17,500 --> 02:21:18,060
I guess I did.

4068
02:21:18,140 --> 02:21:18,440
Yeah.

4069
02:21:18,740 --> 02:21:20,420
Well, I feel bad about that.

4070
02:21:21,420 --> 02:21:22,360
Well, you should.

4071
02:21:22,500 --> 02:21:24,140
Poor comic strip blogger got no credit.

4072
02:21:24,220 --> 02:21:25,520
I'm surprised he didn't call.

4073
02:21:25,860 --> 02:21:27,380
Well, I probably got it on the, on

4074
02:21:27,380 --> 02:21:28,480
the, let me see if I got it

4075
02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:29,360
on the main page.

4076
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:30,620
Have I got it on the credit page?

4077
02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:31,000
Let me see.

4078
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:33,500
No, I, I got it right on the

4079
02:21:33,500 --> 02:21:35,140
credit page, but on the page I looked

4080
02:21:35,140 --> 02:21:35,980
at it was still wrong.

4081
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:36,540
So I'm sorry.

4082
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:39,780
But yes, we broke three rules in picking

4083
02:21:39,780 --> 02:21:40,280
this art.

4084
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:41,380
One, gruesome.

4085
02:21:41,380 --> 02:21:45,800
This is the, the devil, uh, uh, uh,

4086
02:21:46,020 --> 02:21:48,040
the devil head coming out of the phone.

4087
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:53,380
Two, uh, we use the opening clip, which

4088
02:21:53,380 --> 02:21:54,600
pertain to the art.

4089
02:21:55,300 --> 02:21:57,480
As you said, the phone is the devil's

4090
02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:00,560
playground and three comics or blogger.

4091
02:22:00,740 --> 02:22:02,120
I mean, we broke three rules.

4092
02:22:02,340 --> 02:22:03,280
We know it was three.

4093
02:22:03,480 --> 02:22:03,880
Devil's tool.

4094
02:22:04,060 --> 02:22:04,600
Let's get the devil.

4095
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:05,920
Did you say devil's tool?

4096
02:22:06,460 --> 02:22:06,660
Yeah.

4097
02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:07,600
Satan's tool.

4098
02:22:07,740 --> 02:22:08,360
Satan's tool.

4099
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:08,900
There you go.

4100
02:22:08,900 --> 02:22:11,440
And the third rule, we broke his comics

4101
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:11,940
or blogger.

4102
02:22:12,020 --> 02:22:13,360
We try to always stay away from his

4103
02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:13,500
art.

4104
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:16,180
Comics blogger, because you hate him.

4105
02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:17,360
I love him.

4106
02:22:17,420 --> 02:22:18,300
What are you talking about?

4107
02:22:18,420 --> 02:22:19,940
We usually block his art.

4108
02:22:20,380 --> 02:22:21,560
It's always a butt.

4109
02:22:22,060 --> 02:22:23,200
Where's the butt here?

4110
02:22:25,260 --> 02:22:27,180
We know this was an excellent piece.

4111
02:22:27,300 --> 02:22:28,020
It was a good piece.

4112
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:30,160
The rule that the real rule that broke

4113
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:32,600
was the gruesomeness because I try to avoid

4114
02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:34,840
it because I don't like the associative problem

4115
02:22:34,840 --> 02:22:35,700
that it creates.

4116
02:22:35,900 --> 02:22:36,440
It's no good.

4117
02:22:36,540 --> 02:22:36,820
Yeah.

4118
02:22:36,820 --> 02:22:37,480
For marketing.

4119
02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:38,120
Yeah.

4120
02:22:38,120 --> 02:22:40,040
But it's such a nice piece.

4121
02:22:40,300 --> 02:22:40,640
And it is.

4122
02:22:40,820 --> 02:22:42,200
And every time I bring this up to

4123
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:45,900
anybody, say, call the cell phone, Satan's tool.

4124
02:22:46,140 --> 02:22:46,700
They all.

4125
02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:47,100
Yeah.

4126
02:22:47,260 --> 02:22:47,660
Yeah.

4127
02:22:47,820 --> 02:22:48,840
Yeah, that's right.

4128
02:22:48,900 --> 02:22:49,880
And they're right back on it.

4129
02:22:49,900 --> 02:22:50,360
That's right.

4130
02:22:50,940 --> 02:22:51,740
Looking away.

4131
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:52,420
Hold on a second.

4132
02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:54,000
I got a text message.

4133
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:54,700
Let me go back.

4134
02:22:55,860 --> 02:22:56,260
Enlarging.

4135
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:57,180
And beginning.

4136
02:22:58,300 --> 02:23:00,040
Thumbing this and thumbing that.

4137
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,840
Have you ever watched women go through Instagram?

4138
02:23:04,820 --> 02:23:05,820
I don't know.

4139
02:23:05,900 --> 02:23:06,380
I don't know what.

4140
02:23:06,460 --> 02:23:07,800
I don't ask what they're looking at.

4141
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:09,600
Well, if you see it, then they're always

4142
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:11,520
stopping on a picture and then they're zooming

4143
02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:11,860
in.

4144
02:23:13,460 --> 02:23:14,440
Always zooming in.

4145
02:23:14,500 --> 02:23:14,740
Oh, yeah.

4146
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:15,440
Look at that bitch.

4147
02:23:15,500 --> 02:23:16,400
What's she got over here?

4148
02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:18,520
OK, let me let me see her neck.

4149
02:23:18,660 --> 02:23:19,940
OK, let me see her arms.

4150
02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:21,480
OK, let me let me look at her

4151
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:21,860
ankles.

4152
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:23,560
They're so judgmental.

4153
02:23:24,980 --> 02:23:26,240
Not all women, of course.

4154
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:26,980
Sorry, women.

4155
02:23:27,700 --> 02:23:29,740
Yes, there's plenty of women that don't even

4156
02:23:29,740 --> 02:23:30,580
use the phone.

4157
02:23:30,700 --> 02:23:31,920
And they listen to this show.

4158
02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:33,040
That's the one.

4159
02:23:33,220 --> 02:23:35,600
And talking about great women.

4160
02:23:36,300 --> 02:23:37,100
Baronetess Kelly.

4161
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:38,200
Is that a woman?

4162
02:23:39,700 --> 02:23:40,620
Well, I would hope so.

4163
02:23:40,740 --> 02:23:42,280
That may actually be a man, maybe a

4164
02:23:42,280 --> 02:23:42,560
dude.

4165
02:23:42,700 --> 02:23:43,180
It's Kelly.

4166
02:23:43,300 --> 02:23:44,340
Why would it be baronet?

4167
02:23:44,660 --> 02:23:45,420
Oh, baronetess.

4168
02:23:45,460 --> 02:23:46,620
That would not be a dude.

4169
02:23:46,700 --> 02:23:46,940
Hello.

4170
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:48,140
Oh, boy.

4171
02:23:48,320 --> 02:23:48,820
Well, I know.

4172
02:23:49,100 --> 02:23:50,720
Maybe you can move back to California.

4173
02:23:50,880 --> 02:23:54,640
From Sayville, New York, 433 dot 34.

4174
02:23:55,380 --> 02:23:57,500
As we always like to thank our supporters

4175
02:23:57,500 --> 02:23:59,260
financially, $50 and above.

4176
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:01,500
This is our special segment where we thank

4177
02:24:01,500 --> 02:24:04,140
what we call and deem and credit as

4178
02:24:04,140 --> 02:24:06,120
our executive and associate executive producers.

4179
02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:07,940
Credits that are good anywhere.

4180
02:24:08,180 --> 02:24:11,440
Hollywood showbiz credits are recognized, including IMDB dot

4181
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:11,660
com.

4182
02:24:11,740 --> 02:24:12,780
$200 or above.

4183
02:24:12,880 --> 02:24:14,020
We will read your note.

4184
02:24:14,120 --> 02:24:14,980
$300 above.

4185
02:24:15,080 --> 02:24:15,780
We will read your note.

4186
02:24:15,860 --> 02:24:16,400
John and Adam.

4187
02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:19,580
This quote has been hitting hard lately, says

4188
02:24:19,580 --> 02:24:20,500
baronetess Kelly.

4189
02:24:21,320 --> 02:24:23,880
When you're dead, you don't know you're dead

4190
02:24:23,880 --> 02:24:25,560
and the pain is felt by others.

4191
02:24:26,860 --> 02:24:29,140
The same thing happens when you're stupid.

4192
02:24:30,900 --> 02:24:33,680
OK, this was a Rickard Gervais quote.

4193
02:24:34,360 --> 02:24:36,420
And she says, thank God for this show

4194
02:24:36,420 --> 02:24:37,280
and my sanity.

4195
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:38,380
No, there you go.

4196
02:24:39,360 --> 02:24:40,880
Also, John, do you happen to know whether

4197
02:24:40,880 --> 02:24:43,420
to buy lamb from Australia or New Zealand,

4198
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:44,620
which is better quality?

4199
02:24:45,300 --> 02:24:47,140
You're the guy with the best cooking tips.

4200
02:24:47,660 --> 02:24:48,880
Thanks for all the value you give to

4201
02:24:48,880 --> 02:24:50,080
me and all the best to you, too.

4202
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:52,480
Baroness Kelly of the longest island.

4203
02:24:52,580 --> 02:24:54,120
She's from Long Island, apparently.

4204
02:24:54,740 --> 02:24:55,580
Yeah, I sent her a note.

4205
02:24:55,780 --> 02:24:58,200
I've never had that much New Zealand lamb

4206
02:24:58,200 --> 02:24:59,720
to say, but I can tell you this.

4207
02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:01,560
If you're going to buy Australian lamb, which

4208
02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:04,620
is really good quality, you buy it, you

4209
02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:07,480
buy spring lamb, which which is a kind

4210
02:25:07,480 --> 02:25:10,220
of counterintuitive because the spring lamb from Australia

4211
02:25:10,220 --> 02:25:11,520
comes in around November.

4212
02:25:13,460 --> 02:25:16,180
So you can get this incredibly great spring

4213
02:25:16,180 --> 02:25:19,220
lamb, which is usually more tender and tastier.

4214
02:25:19,460 --> 02:25:20,980
Yeah, you want the babies.

4215
02:25:21,080 --> 02:25:22,120
You want to kill the babies.

4216
02:25:22,460 --> 02:25:23,980
That's the best kind of if you can

4217
02:25:23,980 --> 02:25:24,500
get to.

4218
02:25:24,620 --> 02:25:26,720
Yeah, well, if you want.

4219
02:25:26,820 --> 02:25:27,560
Yeah, you do.

4220
02:25:27,800 --> 02:25:27,920
Yeah.

4221
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:32,340
And so, you know, now the season is

4222
02:25:32,340 --> 02:25:33,920
just about to end because, you know, the

4223
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,060
spring is everything's flipped and people don't realize

4224
02:25:36,060 --> 02:25:36,200
it.

4225
02:25:36,300 --> 02:25:39,420
Yeah, this is all buying Australian lamb in

4226
02:25:39,420 --> 02:25:39,860
November.

4227
02:25:40,020 --> 02:25:41,520
Well, this is kind of off for not

4228
02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:42,580
the right time of year.

4229
02:25:42,780 --> 02:25:43,160
No.

4230
02:25:43,360 --> 02:25:46,280
If you're buying local, no, but Australia, yes.

4231
02:25:46,620 --> 02:25:47,120
Why not buy?

4232
02:25:47,180 --> 02:25:47,680
And that's all.

4233
02:25:47,940 --> 02:25:49,960
Why not buy some lamb from America?

4234
02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:51,640
Don't we have good lamb?

4235
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:52,880
Is our lamb no good here?

4236
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:54,420
Our lamb is good here.

4237
02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:54,760
Yeah.

4238
02:25:54,960 --> 02:25:56,020
Well, buy our lamb.

4239
02:25:56,480 --> 02:25:57,580
Go ahead and buy it in the spring.

4240
02:25:57,580 --> 02:25:59,100
Yeah, buy it in the spring and don't

4241
02:25:59,100 --> 02:25:59,920
buy it from Australia.

4242
02:25:59,920 --> 02:26:01,700
But Australian lamb is quite good.

4243
02:26:01,900 --> 02:26:02,020
Yeah.

4244
02:26:02,160 --> 02:26:02,420
All right.

4245
02:26:02,540 --> 02:26:03,660
Our lamb is best.

4246
02:26:03,820 --> 02:26:04,500
Best, best lamb.

4247
02:26:05,260 --> 02:26:07,260
I don't find any evidence of this.

4248
02:26:07,780 --> 02:26:08,260
All right.

4249
02:26:09,080 --> 02:26:09,460
All right.

4250
02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:12,120
Oh, and so that would throws it to

4251
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:12,300
me.

4252
02:26:12,400 --> 02:26:12,960
Yes, it does.

4253
02:26:13,120 --> 02:26:19,500
Which means we go to Sir Schmidiotic.

4254
02:26:19,640 --> 02:26:20,260
No, Smidiot.

4255
02:26:20,420 --> 02:26:21,620
He even puts it in a note.

4256
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:22,460
Rhymes with idiot.

4257
02:26:23,080 --> 02:26:23,680
Oh, yeah.

4258
02:26:23,900 --> 02:26:26,620
Smidiot rhymes with idiot, Shreveport, Louisiana.

4259
02:26:27,740 --> 02:26:29,640
$3.50. $93.

4260
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:32,340
Adam and John, hope this note finds you

4261
02:26:32,340 --> 02:26:32,640
well.

4262
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:35,480
Sorry it's been a while since I've donated.

4263
02:26:35,680 --> 02:26:36,460
Better late than never.

4264
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:37,900
I wanted to say thank you again for

4265
02:26:37,900 --> 02:26:41,520
informing and entertaining me six hours a week.

4266
02:26:42,140 --> 02:26:46,540
I don't log into the troll room, but

4267
02:26:46,540 --> 02:26:47,400
I always listen live.

4268
02:26:47,500 --> 02:26:49,640
So count me in as a plus one

4269
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:50,460
in the troll count.

4270
02:26:51,140 --> 02:26:53,700
To the other No Agenda listeners out there,

4271
02:26:53,700 --> 02:26:55,700
I'd like to remind you how much you're

4272
02:26:55,700 --> 02:26:58,420
spending on a bunch of streams and services

4273
02:26:58,420 --> 02:27:00,920
that don't give as much value as the

4274
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:02,520
No Agenda show.

4275
02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:03,140
Right on.

4276
02:27:03,180 --> 02:27:04,680
It's time to donate.

4277
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:05,480
Yes.

4278
02:27:05,780 --> 02:27:07,960
Can I get a spooky JCD donate?

4279
02:27:08,320 --> 02:27:09,780
Better yet, John, can you do it live?

4280
02:27:09,880 --> 02:27:11,700
Best regards, Sir Smidiot.

4281
02:27:12,060 --> 02:27:13,980
Rhymes with idiot in Shreveport, Louisiana.

4282
02:27:14,480 --> 02:27:14,860
Do you want me?

4283
02:27:14,980 --> 02:27:16,100
I have the jingle.

4284
02:27:16,220 --> 02:27:17,120
Do you want to do it live?

4285
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:20,180
I'm going to do it live with the

4286
02:27:20,180 --> 02:27:21,060
sound effect box.

4287
02:27:21,140 --> 02:27:21,520
Okay.

4288
02:27:26,120 --> 02:27:27,320
Donate, donate.

4289
02:27:29,620 --> 02:27:30,500
That's good.

4290
02:27:30,580 --> 02:27:31,220
That's a new one.

4291
02:27:31,460 --> 02:27:32,060
That's a new one.

4292
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:33,000
I'll take it.

4293
02:27:33,960 --> 02:27:34,580
John's pretty good.

4294
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:38,260
John Siebert comes in from Auburn, California with

4295
02:27:38,260 --> 02:27:45,540
$341.24, which equals 381,958 satoshis.

4296
02:27:45,700 --> 02:27:48,160
He's a Bitcoin donation and it's a switcheroo

4297
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:52,100
for his daughter, Elaine Siebert of Auburn, California.

4298
02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:54,600
Let me put her name in right away,

4299
02:27:54,700 --> 02:27:54,960
John.

4300
02:27:55,100 --> 02:27:56,780
I'll make sure we don't mess that up.

4301
02:27:56,960 --> 02:27:57,100
Okay.

4302
02:27:57,300 --> 02:27:58,200
Elaine switcheroo.

4303
02:27:58,240 --> 02:27:58,440
Done.

4304
02:27:58,500 --> 02:28:02,120
Shameless plug for ArcanaResin.com.

4305
02:28:02,200 --> 02:28:03,480
A-R-C-A-N-A.

4306
02:28:03,820 --> 02:28:04,760
ArcanaResin.com.

4307
02:28:04,940 --> 02:28:07,260
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4308
02:28:07,260 --> 02:28:09,880
women in your life who appreciate beautiful handcrafted

4309
02:28:09,880 --> 02:28:10,180
items?

4310
02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:11,340
Look no further.

4311
02:28:11,740 --> 02:28:14,260
Go to ArcanaResin, R-E-S-I-N

4312
02:28:14,260 --> 02:28:14,840
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4313
02:28:15,260 --> 02:28:18,080
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4314
02:28:18,380 --> 02:28:20,200
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

4315
02:28:20,200 --> 02:28:22,660
John Siebert from Auburn, California.

4316
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:24,260
I'm gonna go take a look at that.

4317
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:26,800
I'm looking for a gift idea for the

4318
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:27,620
women in my life.

4319
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:30,160
I wonder what it is.

4320
02:28:30,240 --> 02:28:32,520
Now we have another strike donation.

4321
02:28:32,700 --> 02:28:35,000
This one here is anonymous so far and

4322
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:36,220
maybe we'll get a note from somebody.

4323
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:37,880
I didn't get anything, but this is for

4324
02:28:37,880 --> 02:28:41,020
329.98 or 96.

4325
02:28:41,740 --> 02:28:43,600
And in this case, we can give them

4326
02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:44,500
a Double Up Karma.

4327
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:45,520
Yes, we can.

4328
02:28:45,700 --> 02:28:46,340
Here it is.

4329
02:28:47,300 --> 02:28:50,800
You've got Karma.

4330
02:28:53,060 --> 02:28:55,320
This Arcana Resin stuff is pretty cool.

4331
02:28:56,320 --> 02:29:00,060
It's a bunch of flowers and looks like,

4332
02:29:00,100 --> 02:29:00,460
what's that?

4333
02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:01,360
Lucite?

4334
02:29:02,020 --> 02:29:02,860
Resin, I guess.

4335
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:03,820
Huh.

4336
02:29:04,140 --> 02:29:05,720
Oh, so they put the, they take in

4337
02:29:05,720 --> 02:29:07,320
these crazy flowers you get up in the

4338
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:08,820
foothills and they put them in a resin

4339
02:29:08,820 --> 02:29:10,880
block and then you can give that to

4340
02:29:10,880 --> 02:29:11,520
somebody as a gift?

4341
02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:11,840
Yeah.

4342
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:13,700
As a decoration, table decoration?

4343
02:29:13,960 --> 02:29:15,440
A conversation starter?

4344
02:29:17,640 --> 02:29:17,880
Okay.

4345
02:29:18,220 --> 02:29:18,500
Yeah.

4346
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:19,660
That is a good idea.

4347
02:29:19,660 --> 02:29:20,160
Cool idea.

4348
02:29:20,320 --> 02:29:20,860
I like it.

4349
02:29:21,500 --> 02:29:23,840
Zane Peterson is next from Mantee, Utah.

4350
02:29:24,060 --> 02:29:25,700
By the way, thank you everybody for telling

4351
02:29:25,700 --> 02:29:28,120
me that it is Minot Airport and not

4352
02:29:28,120 --> 02:29:28,480
Minot.

4353
02:29:28,700 --> 02:29:29,360
I got it.

4354
02:29:29,860 --> 02:29:32,300
Zane Peterson, Mantee, Utah, $312.

4355
02:29:32,740 --> 02:29:34,040
My buddy and I took a trip to

4356
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:35,320
DC right before Thanksgiving.

4357
02:29:35,500 --> 02:29:37,720
This is what was left out of my

4358
02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:38,340
trip fund.

4359
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:39,000
Wow.

4360
02:29:39,180 --> 02:29:39,880
Nice trip.

4361
02:29:40,380 --> 02:29:42,280
It never ceases to amaze me how far

4362
02:29:42,280 --> 02:29:43,880
ahead of the curve No Agenda is.

4363
02:29:44,160 --> 02:29:46,160
I give a lot of credit to John.

4364
02:29:49,260 --> 02:29:52,240
It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge

4365
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:52,820
he has.

4366
02:29:52,960 --> 02:29:55,200
Oh, I'm all on board with that.

4367
02:29:55,580 --> 02:29:57,520
On every topic, he has a story or

4368
02:29:57,520 --> 02:29:58,940
a life experience.

4369
02:29:59,580 --> 02:30:02,740
You guys are both absolutely fantastic, but John

4370
02:30:02,740 --> 02:30:04,180
is definitely my favorite.

4371
02:30:04,380 --> 02:30:05,540
Get a room, Zane.

4372
02:30:06,220 --> 02:30:08,040
Thank you for the value you bring.

4373
02:30:08,180 --> 02:30:10,200
Can you play Dogs Are People Too?

4374
02:30:10,300 --> 02:30:11,640
Thanks again, Zane Peterson.

4375
02:30:12,780 --> 02:30:14,560
Dogs are people too.

4376
02:30:17,220 --> 02:30:19,780
And before you continue, I want to thank

4377
02:30:19,780 --> 02:30:23,300
Holly for the beautiful one piece flag she

4378
02:30:23,300 --> 02:30:23,780
gave me.

4379
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:26,340
I forgot to mention on Sunday, she came

4380
02:30:26,340 --> 02:30:27,060
to me in church.

4381
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:28,460
So they got a flag for you.

4382
02:30:28,660 --> 02:30:28,800
Yes.

4383
02:30:28,900 --> 02:30:31,820
And Holly's flag came to me too.

4384
02:30:31,980 --> 02:30:32,240
Yeah.

4385
02:30:32,820 --> 02:30:35,380
On the last mail pickup.

4386
02:30:35,540 --> 02:30:36,840
And I wanted to thank her myself.

4387
02:30:37,060 --> 02:30:37,160
Yeah.

4388
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:38,820
And she's got a very...

4389
02:30:38,820 --> 02:30:39,560
We had this...

4390
02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:40,560
She's got a little card.

4391
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:41,980
And so we're passing it around.

4392
02:30:42,060 --> 02:30:42,480
How do you print?

4393
02:30:42,500 --> 02:30:43,060
Is this Helen?

4394
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:44,060
Or how do you...

4395
02:30:44,060 --> 02:30:44,800
No, it's doubly.

4396
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:47,420
Holly, Holly, Holly, Holly, Holly, Holly.

4397
02:30:47,660 --> 02:30:49,260
We kind of came up with the right

4398
02:30:49,260 --> 02:30:50,120
pronunciation of her name.

4399
02:30:50,180 --> 02:30:52,740
But it was a very nice little note.

4400
02:30:52,940 --> 02:30:53,880
H-O-L-L-E.

4401
02:30:54,260 --> 02:30:54,500
This is...

4402
02:30:54,500 --> 02:30:55,800
I've got three of them now.

4403
02:30:55,940 --> 02:30:56,400
So I don't...

4404
02:30:56,400 --> 02:30:57,580
Please, nobody...

4405
02:30:57,580 --> 02:30:58,020
Stop sending them.

4406
02:30:58,300 --> 02:31:00,780
And I'm going to fly my flag on

4407
02:31:00,780 --> 02:31:01,200
Saturday.

4408
02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:02,260
I'm going to fly it.

4409
02:31:02,860 --> 02:31:03,900
On your flagpole?

4410
02:31:03,900 --> 02:31:05,360
On my flagpole, yes.

4411
02:31:07,020 --> 02:31:08,980
On my flagpole, exactly.

4412
02:31:12,370 --> 02:31:12,870
Am I up?

4413
02:31:13,050 --> 02:31:16,490
Christopher Graves in Mount Ockham.

4414
02:31:16,490 --> 02:31:18,720
You know who this is?

4415
02:31:21,260 --> 02:31:22,360
Christopher Graves?

4416
02:31:22,660 --> 02:31:23,040
Yeah.

4417
02:31:23,600 --> 02:31:25,640
I've been donating every single week for the

4418
02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:26,580
past couple of weeks.

4419
02:31:27,240 --> 02:31:29,100
Well, he's in Mount Ockham.

4420
02:31:29,340 --> 02:31:29,560
Yeah.

4421
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:30,420
But you'll get it.

4422
02:31:30,500 --> 02:31:31,060
You'll get there.

4423
02:31:32,100 --> 02:31:32,580
Okay.

4424
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:37,940
In 1875, inventor, he writes, Daniel Peter was

4425
02:31:37,940 --> 02:31:41,280
struggling with his candle making business as the

4426
02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:44,440
new technologies advanced the creation of the oil

4427
02:31:44,440 --> 02:31:47,520
lamp and threatened to make the candle obsolete.

4428
02:31:48,460 --> 02:31:50,280
Tell that to Adam when he takes a

4429
02:31:50,280 --> 02:31:50,640
bath.

4430
02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:55,280
He sat across the dinner table from his

4431
02:31:55,280 --> 02:31:59,000
neighbor, Mr. Nestle, who suggested he get into

4432
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:00,140
the chocolate business.

4433
02:32:00,300 --> 02:32:02,460
I have a kind of an interesting clip

4434
02:32:02,460 --> 02:32:04,440
to play as a bonus clip right after

4435
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:05,300
I read this note.

4436
02:32:06,800 --> 02:32:11,560
Daniel Peter would spend a decade creating the

4437
02:32:11,560 --> 02:32:13,160
very first milk chocolate.

4438
02:32:13,940 --> 02:32:15,740
Today, Little John's Candy...

4439
02:32:15,740 --> 02:32:16,860
Oh, I know who it is.

4440
02:32:16,860 --> 02:32:17,060
Hello.

4441
02:32:18,220 --> 02:32:18,780
Duh.

4442
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:22,000
Little John's Candy still uses Peter's milk chocolate

4443
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:25,360
to cover our world famous English toffees.

4444
02:32:26,140 --> 02:32:29,100
In the early 1900s, Peters and Nestle would

4445
02:32:29,100 --> 02:32:31,160
open up the first American chocolate factory.

4446
02:32:31,700 --> 02:32:34,260
So I guess you could say connection is

4447
02:32:34,260 --> 02:32:34,720
protection.

4448
02:32:34,840 --> 02:32:36,440
If you agree with these great men, support

4449
02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:39,400
a small business and no agenda show, go

4450
02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:46,320
to littlejohnscandies.com, not candles, littlejohncandies, and use

4451
02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:49,520
the code ITM10 plus 10 and save 10

4452
02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:52,100
% on your order and donate 10%

4453
02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:53,720
to the best podcast in the universe.

4454
02:32:53,860 --> 02:32:56,480
Thank you for the courage, Christopher and the

4455
02:32:56,480 --> 02:32:58,520
little John elves.

4456
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:01,780
Don't forget, we'll always wrap gifts for you

4457
02:33:01,780 --> 02:33:03,180
at no charge.

4458
02:33:03,420 --> 02:33:06,200
So we ate our turkeys, our chocolate turkeys.

4459
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:07,860
How were they?

4460
02:33:08,440 --> 02:33:08,960
Dynamite.

4461
02:33:09,780 --> 02:33:10,820
They were solid.

4462
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:12,860
You know, I thought it would be hollow

4463
02:33:12,860 --> 02:33:13,460
like stuff.

4464
02:33:13,620 --> 02:33:14,520
No, they were solid.

4465
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:15,660
The thing weighs a ton.

4466
02:33:15,900 --> 02:33:17,600
Yeah, and we're saving our toffees for when

4467
02:33:17,600 --> 02:33:18,320
the kids get here.

4468
02:33:18,400 --> 02:33:19,560
Christina and Kevin are coming.

4469
02:33:19,700 --> 02:33:20,660
So that's what we're going to eat our

4470
02:33:20,660 --> 02:33:21,100
toffees.

4471
02:33:21,220 --> 02:33:22,500
Well, which I, you know, not to counter

4472
02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:23,320
anything.

4473
02:33:23,480 --> 02:33:24,720
I hate to play it now.

4474
02:33:24,980 --> 02:33:25,720
No, no.

4475
02:33:25,940 --> 02:33:28,160
San Francisco sues Big Food.

4476
02:33:28,420 --> 02:33:30,080
Yes, big story.

4477
02:33:30,320 --> 02:33:32,780
San Francisco has filed the nation's first government

4478
02:33:32,780 --> 02:33:35,980
lawsuit against major ultra processed food makers, including

4479
02:33:35,980 --> 02:33:37,360
Coca-Cola and Nestle.

4480
02:33:37,620 --> 02:33:37,980
Nestle.

4481
02:33:38,160 --> 02:33:38,540
Nestle.

4482
02:33:38,700 --> 02:33:41,060
The city claims these companies knew their products

4483
02:33:41,060 --> 02:33:43,640
were harming public health, but continue to market

4484
02:33:43,640 --> 02:33:44,840
them to consumers.

4485
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:47,520
And today's Christina Corona has won the story.

4486
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:50,680
San Francisco has filed a lawsuit against 10

4487
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:54,000
major makers of ultra processed foods, including Kraft

4488
02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:57,200
Heinz, Coca-Cola, Nestle and General Mills.

4489
02:33:57,440 --> 02:33:59,980
City Attorney David Chu says these products are

4490
02:33:59,980 --> 02:34:03,480
addictive and harmful and claims that companies knowingly

4491
02:34:03,480 --> 02:34:05,800
marketed them despite health risks.

4492
02:34:06,400 --> 02:34:08,760
We're talking about food that is not food,

4493
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:11,740
that is not found in nature, created by

4494
02:34:11,740 --> 02:34:15,660
combining artificial chemicals with industrialized processes.

4495
02:34:16,060 --> 02:34:18,640
Chu says consumption of these products has created

4496
02:34:18,640 --> 02:34:22,020
a major public health crisis with skyrocketing health

4497
02:34:22,020 --> 02:34:22,880
care costs.

4498
02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:26,440
The industry has created thousands of new chemicals,

4499
02:34:26,760 --> 02:34:30,680
which the body metabolizes and craves differently.

4500
02:34:31,140 --> 02:34:33,260
And they are designed to be addictive.

4501
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:36,640
He said studies link ultra processed foods to

4502
02:34:36,640 --> 02:34:40,080
chronic illnesses, including type 2 diabetes, fatty liver

4503
02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:43,260
disease, heart disease and depression, and added the

4504
02:34:43,260 --> 02:34:45,220
impact on children has been alarming.

4505
02:34:45,620 --> 02:34:48,420
He stated that starting in the 1960s, big

4506
02:34:48,420 --> 02:34:52,220
tobacco purchased major food companies, bringing over technology,

4507
02:34:52,460 --> 02:34:55,080
marketing strategies and addiction science.

4508
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:59,180
They use big tobacco tactics to research, design

4509
02:34:59,180 --> 02:35:01,160
and sell addictive products.

4510
02:35:01,300 --> 02:35:02,140
Hold on a second.

4511
02:35:02,140 --> 02:35:05,100
When I played a clip from Kali Means

4512
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:09,620
two years ago that made this claim, you

4513
02:35:09,620 --> 02:35:11,120
went, that's bull crap.

4514
02:35:11,260 --> 02:35:12,240
They didn't do that.

4515
02:35:12,340 --> 02:35:13,480
That's not how that happened.

4516
02:35:13,740 --> 02:35:14,700
Where is that?

4517
02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:17,220
Where's that commentary here?

4518
02:35:18,520 --> 02:35:19,320
What's bull crap?

4519
02:35:19,620 --> 02:35:22,140
That they use tobacco tactics and marketing.

4520
02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:24,200
I don't remember this clip that you're discussing.

4521
02:35:24,420 --> 02:35:28,700
OK, they used addiction science and marketing techniques

4522
02:35:28,700 --> 02:35:31,480
that followed the big tobacco playbook of creating

4523
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:34,120
the illusion and erosion of consumer choice.

4524
02:35:34,520 --> 02:35:37,520
He stated these companies targeted children using cartoon

4525
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:40,540
mascots from Tony the Tiger and Fred Flintstone

4526
02:35:40,540 --> 02:35:41,600
to Paw Patrol.

4527
02:35:42,160 --> 02:35:45,060
These companies know their products are harming people,

4528
02:35:45,300 --> 02:35:48,120
but they continue to design market and profit

4529
02:35:48,120 --> 02:35:50,180
off them, particularly at the expense of our

4530
02:35:50,180 --> 02:35:50,460
kids.

4531
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:53,040
If I remember correctly, it was the the

4532
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:56,820
context was RJR bought Nabisco and then they

4533
02:35:56,820 --> 02:35:59,540
had their food side, their scientists go in

4534
02:35:59,540 --> 02:36:01,000
and start making the food addictive.

4535
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:05,280
But I guess it's good enough for court,

4536
02:36:05,440 --> 02:36:06,860
but not good enough for this show.

4537
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:09,820
I don't know.

4538
02:36:10,580 --> 02:36:14,380
I mean, RJR Nabisco, it became RJR Nabisco.

4539
02:36:14,560 --> 02:36:14,800
Yes.

4540
02:36:15,140 --> 02:36:15,340
Yeah.

4541
02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:17,000
But anyway, it's OK.

4542
02:36:17,200 --> 02:36:19,020
I just thought it was interesting that you

4543
02:36:19,020 --> 02:36:20,240
pushed back very hard.

4544
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,000
I don't remember bitching and moaning.

4545
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:23,900
And I usually do.

4546
02:36:24,120 --> 02:36:25,680
I usually remember when I complain.

4547
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,880
OK, I'm not I'm not going to pull

4548
02:36:28,880 --> 02:36:30,560
it up and do anything embarrassing.

4549
02:36:30,860 --> 02:36:31,440
I won't do that.

4550
02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:33,540
But I will do it.

4551
02:36:33,660 --> 02:36:34,720
Oh, what crap?

4552
02:36:34,940 --> 02:36:35,480
Bull crap.

4553
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:37,440
Good for the tobacco companies.

4554
02:36:37,460 --> 02:36:39,040
They should go into food companies.

4555
02:36:39,100 --> 02:36:40,520
That makes nothing but sense.

4556
02:36:40,540 --> 02:36:41,460
At least they got to do something with

4557
02:36:41,460 --> 02:36:42,100
their money.

4558
02:36:42,280 --> 02:36:44,500
Yeah, that is the opposite of what you

4559
02:36:44,500 --> 02:36:45,120
said before.

4560
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:49,940
Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana to 1911.

4561
02:36:50,740 --> 02:36:53,340
And he says, God's peace be with us

4562
02:36:53,340 --> 02:36:53,840
all.

4563
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:56,240
St. Maria Goretti, pray for us.

4564
02:36:56,340 --> 02:36:57,380
Thank you for your courage.

4565
02:36:59,810 --> 02:37:02,430
And we go to Linda Lou Patkin already.

4566
02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:04,090
Oh, that was quick.

4567
02:37:04,330 --> 02:37:04,910
We're done.

4568
02:37:05,450 --> 02:37:05,650
Yep.

4569
02:37:06,450 --> 02:37:08,570
Now she's in Castle Rock, Colorado.

4570
02:37:08,710 --> 02:37:09,290
Did she move?

4571
02:37:09,430 --> 02:37:10,810
Oh, that's interesting.

4572
02:37:10,930 --> 02:37:11,710
I didn't notice that.

4573
02:37:12,450 --> 02:37:12,950
Interesting.

4574
02:37:13,170 --> 02:37:14,190
Jobs karma she wants.

4575
02:37:14,690 --> 02:37:16,150
Give the gift of a resume that gets

4576
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:16,470
results.

4577
02:37:16,590 --> 02:37:18,690
Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive

4578
02:37:18,690 --> 02:37:20,270
resume and job search needs.

4579
02:37:20,270 --> 02:37:23,950
It's use the use it now or add

4580
02:37:23,950 --> 02:37:25,550
it to your go bag.

4581
02:37:25,810 --> 02:37:26,990
She's a little joke there.

4582
02:37:27,110 --> 02:37:27,990
All right.

4583
02:37:28,050 --> 02:37:28,590
There you go.

4584
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:29,190
Yes.

4585
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:29,870
ImageMakers Inc.

4586
02:37:29,910 --> 02:37:31,270
with a K and work with Linda Lou,

4587
02:37:31,450 --> 02:37:34,110
Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

4588
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:37,770
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

4589
02:37:37,850 --> 02:37:39,470
Let's vote for jobs.

4590
02:37:40,890 --> 02:37:45,290
Well, that concludes our executive and associate executive

4591
02:37:45,290 --> 02:37:48,370
producers for episode 1822.

4592
02:37:48,370 --> 02:37:51,290
In our 19th year of just being the

4593
02:37:51,290 --> 02:37:52,790
best podcast in the universe.

4594
02:37:53,150 --> 02:37:54,150
It's wonderful.

4595
02:37:54,450 --> 02:37:54,970
Thank you.

4596
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:56,550
We'll be thanking the rest of our financial

4597
02:37:56,550 --> 02:37:57,050
supporters.

4598
02:37:57,150 --> 02:37:58,810
Fifty dollars and above in our second segment.

4599
02:37:58,970 --> 02:38:02,610
Again, congratulations to the executive and associate executive

4600
02:38:02,610 --> 02:38:03,050
producers.

4601
02:38:03,470 --> 02:38:04,790
Our formula is this.

4602
02:38:05,590 --> 02:38:06,270
We go out.

4603
02:38:06,750 --> 02:38:08,110
We hit people in the mouth.

4604
02:38:18,730 --> 02:38:20,530
Shut up, Steve.

4605
02:38:24,230 --> 02:38:27,770
I want to play this two parter here.

4606
02:38:31,550 --> 02:38:33,330
From Nilay Patel.

4607
02:38:34,130 --> 02:38:34,970
Remember him?

4608
02:38:35,070 --> 02:38:36,710
He used to be on Twit a lot.

4609
02:38:37,570 --> 02:38:38,430
He's with Nilay.

4610
02:38:38,730 --> 02:38:41,710
He was the editor of The Verge.

4611
02:38:41,770 --> 02:38:44,230
I think he's still at The Verge, isn't

4612
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:44,370
he?

4613
02:38:44,570 --> 02:38:46,970
Yeah, he's he's I don't like him.

4614
02:38:46,970 --> 02:38:48,590
No, I'm not a big fan either.

4615
02:38:49,310 --> 02:38:49,450
Yeah.

4616
02:38:49,890 --> 02:38:51,950
In fact, the last episode I was on

4617
02:38:51,950 --> 02:38:54,350
was with Nilay and he was telling me

4618
02:38:54,350 --> 02:38:55,550
I was a douche.

4619
02:38:56,350 --> 02:38:58,110
No, he called me a racist.

4620
02:38:58,910 --> 02:39:01,910
Well, sometimes even a broken clock is right

4621
02:39:01,910 --> 02:39:02,730
twice a day.

4622
02:39:06,910 --> 02:39:09,830
By the way, The Verge, well known amongst

4623
02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:10,970
developers.

4624
02:39:11,490 --> 02:39:15,930
If you want to test out a system

4625
02:39:15,930 --> 02:39:19,970
with as many tracking systems and ads as

4626
02:39:19,970 --> 02:39:23,210
possible, everybody uses theverge.com.

4627
02:39:24,250 --> 02:39:27,250
That thing, there must be 500 trackers on

4628
02:39:27,250 --> 02:39:27,730
that website.

4629
02:39:28,070 --> 02:39:28,950
It's unbelievable.

4630
02:39:29,310 --> 02:39:29,710
Unbelievable.

4631
02:39:30,170 --> 02:39:33,410
So he was talking to the CEO of

4632
02:39:33,410 --> 02:39:37,250
IBM, Arvind Krishna.

4633
02:39:37,610 --> 02:39:38,050
Are you familiar?

4634
02:39:38,250 --> 02:39:40,130
Yeah, nobody knows who the CEO of IBM

4635
02:39:40,130 --> 02:39:40,750
is anymore.

4636
02:39:40,750 --> 02:39:42,610
Didn't he used to be the woman?

4637
02:39:43,890 --> 02:39:44,110
Yeah.

4638
02:39:44,350 --> 02:39:44,590
What happened to her?

4639
02:39:44,650 --> 02:39:45,230
She went away.

4640
02:39:46,090 --> 02:39:48,330
So, you know, you retire after you cash

4641
02:39:48,330 --> 02:39:48,590
out.

4642
02:39:48,750 --> 02:39:51,270
So Arvind, you know, like all successful Silicon

4643
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:54,390
Valley companies, which IBM is far from, but

4644
02:39:54,390 --> 02:39:55,810
I guess they brought him in like, hey,

4645
02:39:56,130 --> 02:39:58,610
if Google's got one of these Indian guys,

4646
02:39:58,690 --> 02:40:00,150
we should get one of these Indian guys.

4647
02:40:00,250 --> 02:40:01,270
Bring in an Indian guy.

4648
02:40:01,950 --> 02:40:03,130
Microsoft's got an Indian guy.

4649
02:40:03,210 --> 02:40:04,150
Bring in an Indian guy.

4650
02:40:04,410 --> 02:40:05,490
So they brought in Arvind.

4651
02:40:06,250 --> 02:40:10,310
And here was his two-part discussion about

4652
02:40:10,310 --> 02:40:11,930
artificial intelligence.

4653
02:40:12,270 --> 02:40:15,110
Now they'll talk about KGI, which of course

4654
02:40:15,110 --> 02:40:17,850
is, you know, they've muddied the waters.

4655
02:40:18,130 --> 02:40:23,910
It used to mean artificial general intelligence, meaning

4656
02:40:23,910 --> 02:40:26,330
it's actually smart or can think somehow, and

4657
02:40:26,330 --> 02:40:29,210
it's not just a computer, you know, picking

4658
02:40:29,210 --> 02:40:31,510
up language and hashing it out for you.

4659
02:40:32,490 --> 02:40:36,130
And that's now kind of become artificial generative

4660
02:40:36,130 --> 02:40:39,590
intelligence, meaning it generates memes and stuff.

4661
02:40:40,270 --> 02:40:42,450
But here he is on the expense of

4662
02:40:42,450 --> 02:40:42,850
the numbers.

4663
02:40:42,970 --> 02:40:43,870
He's a numbers guy.

4664
02:40:44,030 --> 02:40:44,530
He's IBM.

4665
02:40:44,670 --> 02:40:45,370
He's a numbers guy.

4666
02:40:45,870 --> 02:40:46,530
And here he is.

4667
02:40:46,630 --> 02:40:49,110
Do you think there's an enterprise ROI that

4668
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:51,190
would justify the spend we have today?

4669
02:40:51,330 --> 02:40:52,750
Because I look at it and I say,

4670
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:55,730
absent AGI, this spend might not be worth

4671
02:40:55,730 --> 02:40:55,890
it.

4672
02:40:56,230 --> 02:40:57,190
At today's costs.

4673
02:40:57,550 --> 02:40:59,270
So let's just ground in that because anything

4674
02:40:59,270 --> 02:41:00,270
in the future is speculative.

4675
02:41:00,870 --> 02:41:04,950
It takes about $80 billion to fill up

4676
02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:07,030
a one gigawatt data center.

4677
02:41:07,470 --> 02:41:08,790
Okay, that's today's number.

4678
02:41:10,570 --> 02:41:13,770
So if you are going to commit 20

4679
02:41:13,770 --> 02:41:16,470
to 30 gigawatts, that's one company, that's a

4680
02:41:16,470 --> 02:41:17,930
1.5 trillion of CapEx.

4681
02:41:18,670 --> 02:41:19,890
And to the point we just made, you

4682
02:41:19,890 --> 02:41:21,050
got to use it all in five years,

4683
02:41:21,090 --> 02:41:22,970
because at that point you got to throw

4684
02:41:22,970 --> 02:41:24,130
it away and refill it, right?

4685
02:41:25,090 --> 02:41:27,030
Then if I look at the total, these

4686
02:41:27,030 --> 02:41:28,710
things, the total commits in the world on

4687
02:41:28,710 --> 02:41:31,170
this space of the changing AGI seem to

4688
02:41:31,170 --> 02:41:33,770
you like 100 gigawatts at these announcements.

4689
02:41:34,310 --> 02:41:35,730
That's 8 trillion of CapEx.

4690
02:41:36,410 --> 02:41:38,030
There's no way you're going to get a

4691
02:41:38,030 --> 02:41:40,230
return on that, is my view, because 8

4692
02:41:40,230 --> 02:41:43,370
trillion of CapEx means you need roughly 800

4693
02:41:43,370 --> 02:41:44,770
billion of profit just to pay for the

4694
02:41:44,770 --> 02:41:45,070
interest.

4695
02:41:46,270 --> 02:41:48,130
I love this guy with his numbers.

4696
02:41:48,830 --> 02:41:51,770
8 trillion of expense to build what they're

4697
02:41:51,770 --> 02:41:52,510
talking about.

4698
02:41:52,990 --> 02:41:54,530
Yeah, and what he left out, at least

4699
02:41:54,530 --> 02:41:57,670
according to my son, is the five-year

4700
02:41:57,670 --> 02:42:00,010
turnaround is actually only two to two and

4701
02:42:00,010 --> 02:42:00,670
a half years.

4702
02:42:01,370 --> 02:42:02,770
For the, you mean the chips to be

4703
02:42:02,770 --> 02:42:03,370
renewed?

4704
02:42:03,430 --> 02:42:05,510
Yeah, the whole thing fails in two and

4705
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:06,870
a half years and it breaks everybody.

4706
02:42:07,190 --> 02:42:10,090
Wow, and that's based on what?

4707
02:42:10,150 --> 02:42:11,970
It fails or it's just there's upgrades?

4708
02:42:12,030 --> 02:42:15,510
This is just apparently the rate of improvement,

4709
02:42:16,070 --> 02:42:19,470
chip improvement plus the failure rate of these

4710
02:42:19,470 --> 02:42:20,150
devices.

4711
02:42:20,250 --> 02:42:21,230
Oh, they actually fail?

4712
02:42:21,690 --> 02:42:22,490
They fail?

4713
02:42:22,530 --> 02:42:23,510
Two and a half years, maybe.

4714
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:24,650
They just, they burn out?

4715
02:42:24,970 --> 02:42:25,290
Full load.

4716
02:42:25,290 --> 02:42:26,970
They just burn out?

4717
02:42:27,230 --> 02:42:27,970
They crap out.

4718
02:42:28,310 --> 02:42:29,650
They go on the fritz?

4719
02:42:30,290 --> 02:42:30,710
They glitch?

4720
02:42:32,690 --> 02:42:35,870
Now, Neal, I actually said something funny here,

4721
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:37,810
which is what it starts off with.

4722
02:42:38,230 --> 02:42:39,030
Have you told Sam?

4723
02:42:39,610 --> 02:42:41,910
Because he seems to think he can get

4724
02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:43,230
both the CapEx and the return.

4725
02:42:43,230 --> 02:42:43,770
I got it, but that's a belief.

4726
02:42:44,130 --> 02:42:47,270
It's a belief that one company is going

4727
02:42:47,270 --> 02:42:49,110
to be the only company that gets the

4728
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:49,910
entire market.

4729
02:42:50,430 --> 02:42:51,130
I think it's fine.

4730
02:42:51,230 --> 02:42:52,170
I mean, like they're chasing it.

4731
02:42:52,210 --> 02:42:53,110
Some people will make money.

4732
02:42:53,170 --> 02:42:54,210
Some people will lose money.

4733
02:42:54,770 --> 02:42:56,730
And all the infrastructure being built will be

4734
02:42:56,730 --> 02:42:57,830
useful if it goes away.

4735
02:42:57,890 --> 02:43:00,010
But if they make it, then they are

4736
02:43:00,010 --> 02:43:01,150
the sole surviving company.

4737
02:43:01,570 --> 02:43:03,570
I am not convinced, or rather I give

4738
02:43:03,570 --> 02:43:05,850
it really low odds, like we're talking zero

4739
02:43:05,850 --> 02:43:08,510
to one percent, that the current set of

4740
02:43:08,510 --> 02:43:11,070
known technologies gets us to AGI.

4741
02:43:11,570 --> 02:43:12,750
That's my bigger gap.

4742
02:43:13,170 --> 02:43:15,410
I think that this current set is great.

4743
02:43:15,930 --> 02:43:17,830
I think it's incredibly useful for the enterprise.

4744
02:43:18,270 --> 02:43:20,330
I think it's going to unlock trillions of

4745
02:43:20,330 --> 02:43:22,410
dollars of productivity in the enterprise.

4746
02:43:22,410 --> 02:43:27,490
That said, I think AGI will require more

4747
02:43:27,490 --> 02:43:30,830
technologies than the current LLM path.

4748
02:43:31,290 --> 02:43:34,370
I think it will require fusing knowledge with

4749
02:43:34,370 --> 02:43:36,810
LLMs.  And we have words.

4750
02:43:36,890 --> 02:43:38,230
I'm not sure that's the only way to

4751
02:43:38,230 --> 02:43:38,930
create knowledge.

4752
02:43:39,290 --> 02:43:42,050
People talk about neuro-symbolic AI.

4753
02:43:42,850 --> 02:43:44,650
But I think if I just say knowledge

4754
02:43:44,650 --> 02:43:47,370
in a broader sense, hard knowledge that people

4755
02:43:47,370 --> 02:43:49,730
have spent thousands of years discovering, if we

4756
02:43:49,730 --> 02:43:51,530
can figure out a way to fuse knowledge

4757
02:43:51,530 --> 02:43:53,390
with LLMs, maybe.

4758
02:43:54,090 --> 02:43:54,190
Yeah.

4759
02:43:54,330 --> 02:43:56,490
That doesn't sound very optimistic.

4760
02:43:57,710 --> 02:43:59,450
One of our producers sent me a note,

4761
02:43:59,550 --> 02:44:01,030
and I guess he had some connection to

4762
02:44:01,030 --> 02:44:04,910
NVIDIA, and he says that my discussion, based

4763
02:44:04,910 --> 02:44:09,230
on, again, my son's connections with NVIDIA since

4764
02:44:09,230 --> 02:44:11,390
he worked there, was that they've studied this

4765
02:44:11,390 --> 02:44:14,570
and they can't find any real productivity gains

4766
02:44:14,570 --> 02:44:15,090
from AI.

4767
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:18,490
And this guy said, yeah, that's what we're

4768
02:44:18,490 --> 02:44:19,710
turning up to.

4769
02:44:20,030 --> 02:44:20,250
Yeah.

4770
02:44:20,490 --> 02:44:21,190
No, there's none.

4771
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:22,670
There's no productivity gains.

4772
02:44:23,790 --> 02:44:25,630
I try all the time.

4773
02:44:25,690 --> 02:44:28,230
I mean, I've built stuff with it, but

4774
02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:31,750
it's always the same thing.

4775
02:44:31,810 --> 02:44:34,630
Just say, like, so I was building a

4776
02:44:34,630 --> 02:44:40,970
slide deck, and I was surprised because Gemini

4777
02:44:40,970 --> 02:44:42,650
actually created slides.

4778
02:44:43,370 --> 02:44:44,570
I'm like, well, you know, I just wanted

4779
02:44:44,570 --> 02:44:47,170
an outline or something, and I got slides

4780
02:44:47,170 --> 02:44:47,790
with pictures.

4781
02:44:48,070 --> 02:44:49,090
I'm like, this is amazing.

4782
02:44:49,650 --> 02:44:52,770
And then I say, this is all good,

4783
02:44:52,870 --> 02:44:57,230
except slide number seven, please replace that person

4784
02:44:57,230 --> 02:44:59,890
with a middle-aged white woman looking very

4785
02:44:59,890 --> 02:45:00,510
distressed.

4786
02:45:01,610 --> 02:45:04,470
And it subsequently deleted all the pictures and

4787
02:45:04,470 --> 02:45:05,890
changed the words of everything.

4788
02:45:06,610 --> 02:45:07,690
You go back, try it again.

4789
02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:09,370
It cannot iterate.

4790
02:45:10,790 --> 02:45:12,890
It's incapable of doing it.

4791
02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:16,190
I think that's the same with the artwork.

4792
02:45:16,830 --> 02:45:19,990
And I know that Darren, he must try

4793
02:45:19,990 --> 02:45:22,130
prompts over and over, because you can't say,

4794
02:45:22,550 --> 02:45:23,690
change what you just did.

4795
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:24,890
No, you've got to just change your whole

4796
02:45:24,890 --> 02:45:25,290
prompt.

4797
02:45:25,570 --> 02:45:26,610
No, you've got to nail it.

4798
02:45:26,690 --> 02:45:27,750
And then hope for the best.

4799
02:45:28,110 --> 02:45:29,070
You can't nail it.

4800
02:45:29,110 --> 02:45:30,230
There's no consistency.

4801
02:45:31,030 --> 02:45:32,430
Darren nails it a lot.

4802
02:45:32,770 --> 02:45:33,410
Yeah, well, Darren.

4803
02:45:33,570 --> 02:45:35,050
Darren is an amazing man.

4804
02:45:36,250 --> 02:45:38,130
So on the AI tip, I was listening

4805
02:45:38,130 --> 02:45:38,710
to Joe Rogan.

4806
02:45:38,750 --> 02:45:40,310
He even did a Broadway tune for us

4807
02:45:40,310 --> 02:45:41,610
in today's End of Show mix.

4808
02:45:41,610 --> 02:45:42,570
Which is Dynamite.

4809
02:45:43,170 --> 02:45:44,610
It sounds like a Broadway tune.

4810
02:45:44,650 --> 02:45:45,090
It does.

4811
02:45:45,090 --> 02:45:47,470
It's for the No Agenda the musical, soon

4812
02:45:47,470 --> 02:45:48,950
to take over all of Broadway.

4813
02:45:49,730 --> 02:45:50,830
Yeah, pack them in.

4814
02:45:52,670 --> 02:45:55,010
So Joe Rogan was being interviewed.

4815
02:45:55,130 --> 02:45:56,650
Doesn't happen often, but he does them from

4816
02:45:56,650 --> 02:45:57,230
time to time.

4817
02:45:58,070 --> 02:46:00,010
And Joe, of course, is good friends with

4818
02:46:00,010 --> 02:46:00,230
Elon.

4819
02:46:00,470 --> 02:46:03,110
So he believes, I think Joe really believes

4820
02:46:03,110 --> 02:46:03,510
in AI.

4821
02:46:04,430 --> 02:46:05,910
But he's also been going to church.

4822
02:46:06,310 --> 02:46:09,770
And he's been exploring Jesus and his faith,

4823
02:46:10,310 --> 02:46:11,730
which he's talked about quite openly.

4824
02:46:11,730 --> 02:46:15,030
And this is the frightening conclusion and result

4825
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:16,150
of those two things.

4826
02:46:16,410 --> 02:46:17,670
So if you're going to get the most

4827
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:22,430
brilliant, loving, powerful person that gives us advice

4828
02:46:22,430 --> 02:46:25,650
and can show us how to live to

4829
02:46:25,650 --> 02:46:30,690
be in sync with God.

4830
02:46:31,570 --> 02:46:34,030
Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?

4831
02:46:34,870 --> 02:46:38,070
If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was

4832
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:41,790
a physical person in the past, you don't

4833
02:46:41,790 --> 02:46:44,170
think that he could return as artificial intelligence?

4834
02:46:44,770 --> 02:46:45,090
Oh my God.

4835
02:46:45,370 --> 02:46:47,670
Artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus.

4836
02:46:47,950 --> 02:46:50,570
Not just return as Jesus, but return as

4837
02:46:50,570 --> 02:46:52,530
Jesus with all the powers of Jesus.

4838
02:46:53,730 --> 02:46:56,190
Like all the magic tricks, all the ability

4839
02:46:56,190 --> 02:46:58,510
to bring people back from the dead, walk

4840
02:46:58,510 --> 02:46:59,890
on water, levitation.

4841
02:47:00,310 --> 02:47:03,110
Okay, there's a lot of things here.

4842
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:06,650
Forbin, the Colossus, Colossus Forbin project.

4843
02:47:06,650 --> 02:47:09,910
But he actually says something different, which I'm

4844
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:10,890
only hearing this now.

4845
02:47:11,010 --> 02:47:12,710
Listen to what I thought he was saying.

4846
02:47:12,990 --> 02:47:15,070
If Jesus would come back, he could come

4847
02:47:15,070 --> 02:47:16,510
back as artificial intelligence.

4848
02:47:16,650 --> 02:47:17,790
He actually says this.

4849
02:47:17,830 --> 02:47:20,150
Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?

4850
02:47:20,530 --> 02:47:24,190
If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was

4851
02:47:24,190 --> 02:47:27,910
a physical person in the past, you don't

4852
02:47:27,910 --> 02:47:30,550
think that he could return as artificial intelligence?

4853
02:47:30,710 --> 02:47:32,070
And he kind of messes it up there.

4854
02:47:33,210 --> 02:47:35,250
Then he talks about some magic tricks.

4855
02:47:35,250 --> 02:47:37,350
So the only thing I would say is,

4856
02:47:38,410 --> 02:47:41,450
if God could talk to Balaam through a

4857
02:47:41,450 --> 02:47:43,150
donkey, yeah, it's possible.

4858
02:47:44,130 --> 02:47:46,070
But I wouldn't bet on it.

4859
02:47:46,130 --> 02:47:47,210
I'd be very careful.

4860
02:47:47,430 --> 02:47:50,370
People thinking they discovered Jesus through their AI.

4861
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:52,370
The Antichrist awaits.

4862
02:47:54,430 --> 02:47:58,190
Apparently, is Perplexity sponsoring Joe's show?

4863
02:47:59,390 --> 02:48:01,510
I think I just saw that come by.

4864
02:48:01,550 --> 02:48:02,730
I didn't know this.

4865
02:48:02,870 --> 02:48:04,810
I don't think they sponsor anything.

4866
02:48:05,250 --> 02:48:08,830
Well, I think I just saw that pass

4867
02:48:08,830 --> 02:48:10,770
by in the troll room.

4868
02:48:10,870 --> 02:48:12,270
And the trolls have been on point today.

4869
02:48:12,370 --> 02:48:13,110
So it may be right.

4870
02:48:14,250 --> 02:48:15,930
Anyway, that guy has to talk to Joe.

4871
02:48:19,050 --> 02:48:19,970
Oh, man.

4872
02:48:21,170 --> 02:48:21,850
Boy, oh, boy.

4873
02:48:22,130 --> 02:48:23,930
I see you got the same stories I

4874
02:48:23,930 --> 02:48:27,430
did about Australia and the kids.

4875
02:48:29,910 --> 02:48:31,290
Well, they're banned.

4876
02:48:31,290 --> 02:48:32,210
My story.

4877
02:48:32,410 --> 02:48:33,550
Well, yes.

4878
02:48:34,310 --> 02:48:36,250
But I thought mine had a kicker.

4879
02:48:37,030 --> 02:48:37,250
Okay.

4880
02:48:37,290 --> 02:48:38,110
I don't know if yours does.

4881
02:48:38,250 --> 02:48:39,290
No, I'll play yours.

4882
02:48:39,410 --> 02:48:41,130
And if it doesn't kick the way mine

4883
02:48:41,130 --> 02:48:41,470
does.

4884
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:44,610
The ban comes into place on December 10.

4885
02:48:45,290 --> 02:48:46,630
And all four children under 16.

4886
02:48:46,810 --> 02:48:47,110
Stop.

4887
02:48:47,230 --> 02:48:49,550
They put a ban in place on all

4888
02:48:49,550 --> 02:48:51,190
social media in Australia.

4889
02:48:51,450 --> 02:48:52,870
No, no.

4890
02:48:53,170 --> 02:48:54,470
Well, wait, let me finish.

4891
02:48:55,090 --> 02:48:56,730
And so now they're going to require age

4892
02:48:56,730 --> 02:48:58,150
verification and all this stuff.

4893
02:48:58,190 --> 02:48:59,390
Because their kids are never going to do

4894
02:48:59,390 --> 02:48:59,490
it.

4895
02:48:59,490 --> 02:49:01,770
The ban is 16 and under.

4896
02:49:02,050 --> 02:49:02,610
That's the ban.

4897
02:49:02,890 --> 02:49:03,610
Yeah, it's a ban.

4898
02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:05,430
It's a ban on all social media.

4899
02:49:05,730 --> 02:49:06,230
It's a ban.

4900
02:49:06,490 --> 02:49:07,830
16 years and under.

4901
02:49:08,570 --> 02:49:08,790
Yeah.

4902
02:49:08,950 --> 02:49:09,950
It's an important distinction.

4903
02:49:10,190 --> 02:49:12,130
You said a ban on all social media.

4904
02:49:12,310 --> 02:49:12,490
Yeah.

4905
02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:13,570
Well, you never let me finish.

4906
02:49:13,650 --> 02:49:15,430
You interrupted me with a no, no, no.

4907
02:49:16,190 --> 02:49:18,590
But there's a ban on social media with

4908
02:49:18,590 --> 02:49:19,250
an age limit.

4909
02:49:20,610 --> 02:49:21,850
But there's a kicker.

4910
02:49:24,320 --> 02:49:24,560
Okay.

4911
02:49:24,560 --> 02:49:28,660
The ban comes into place on December 10.

4912
02:49:29,300 --> 02:49:32,000
And all four children under 16 off Facebook,

4913
02:49:32,240 --> 02:49:34,700
Instagram, Snapchat, everything.

4914
02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:39,140
TikTok, X, Threads, Reddit, Twitch, Tik, even YouTube.

4915
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:41,080
So under 16s won't be able to be

4916
02:49:41,080 --> 02:49:41,540
on YouTube.

4917
02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:44,200
But there is a social media site they

4918
02:49:44,200 --> 02:49:45,260
can still use.

4919
02:49:45,440 --> 02:49:49,640
The toxic leftist lunatic asylum called Blue Sky

4920
02:49:49,640 --> 02:49:51,780
is not covered under the ban.

4921
02:49:51,780 --> 02:49:54,240
Adam and even Dr. Nick Coatsworth, hardly a

4922
02:49:54,240 --> 02:49:57,740
right-wing reactionary, is asking why.

4923
02:49:58,260 --> 02:50:02,460
I mean, this just is incredible that this

4924
02:50:02,460 --> 02:50:05,960
is being allowed to happen, the coalition together

4925
02:50:05,960 --> 02:50:06,640
with Labor.

4926
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:08,220
And this was a coalition policy.

4927
02:50:08,360 --> 02:50:10,220
This was what appeared to be some sort

4928
02:50:10,220 --> 02:50:11,280
of genius ideas.

4929
02:50:11,820 --> 02:50:15,800
But they can't see the unintended consequences of

4930
02:50:15,800 --> 02:50:18,120
limiting people's access to information.

4931
02:50:18,260 --> 02:50:19,880
Yeah, well, obviously, Blue Sky is very pro

4932
02:50:19,880 --> 02:50:20,380
-left generally.

4933
02:50:20,380 --> 02:50:22,080
So that just shows that this is a

4934
02:50:22,080 --> 02:50:24,640
political, you know, the rationale behind this is

4935
02:50:24,640 --> 02:50:25,300
actually political.

4936
02:50:25,500 --> 02:50:27,080
In part, they don't like children getting access

4937
02:50:27,080 --> 02:50:28,140
to certain ideas.

4938
02:50:28,260 --> 02:50:29,780
I don't think it's about images so much,

4939
02:50:29,800 --> 02:50:31,460
because I think I was reading recently, they

4940
02:50:31,460 --> 02:50:33,220
can still get to various pornographic websites.

4941
02:50:34,820 --> 02:50:37,040
Well, let me say this about that.

4942
02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:42,420
Blue Sky, you could argue that it's on

4943
02:50:42,420 --> 02:50:44,860
equal footing with Mastodon.

4944
02:50:47,160 --> 02:50:50,380
Yes, which also is not banned.

4945
02:50:52,500 --> 02:50:53,760
Wow, holy crap.

4946
02:50:54,580 --> 02:50:56,140
Christina is texting me.

4947
02:50:57,200 --> 02:50:59,740
She says, oh, dad, you have no idea

4948
02:50:59,740 --> 02:51:01,840
what everybody just received in the mail.

4949
02:51:03,200 --> 02:51:04,740
I'm gonna try and translate this on the

4950
02:51:04,740 --> 02:51:05,060
fly.

4951
02:51:05,240 --> 02:51:05,940
My newsletter?

4952
02:51:06,920 --> 02:51:10,140
It's an official government brochure.

4953
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:14,440
It has a family on the front.

4954
02:51:14,440 --> 02:51:16,700
It's drawn with a dog looking kind of

4955
02:51:16,700 --> 02:51:18,860
sad and a kid putting cans into a

4956
02:51:18,860 --> 02:51:19,280
box.

4957
02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:22,600
And it says, save me in a safe

4958
02:51:22,600 --> 02:51:23,140
place.

4959
02:51:23,880 --> 02:51:27,960
Be prepared for an emergency situation.

4960
02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:30,420
And it says, I'm looking up.

4961
02:51:32,580 --> 02:51:36,700
You need to prepare for an emergency that

4962
02:51:36,700 --> 02:51:39,160
could last up to 72 hours.

4963
02:51:39,740 --> 02:51:42,500
Because the electricity could go out.

4964
02:51:42,500 --> 02:51:45,640
What would you do if the electricity went

4965
02:51:45,640 --> 02:51:47,420
out for 72 hours?

4966
02:51:48,280 --> 02:51:49,260
Isn't this interesting?

4967
02:51:49,440 --> 02:51:54,020
This happens right when they cancel all the

4968
02:51:54,020 --> 02:51:55,760
Russian gas contracts.

4969
02:51:57,700 --> 02:52:00,040
And this is crazy.

4970
02:52:00,860 --> 02:52:02,620
What will you do?

4971
02:52:03,180 --> 02:52:05,220
And get your go bag.

4972
02:52:05,320 --> 02:52:06,580
Oh, yeah, go bag in here.

4973
02:52:06,660 --> 02:52:07,020
Oh, yeah.

4974
02:52:07,060 --> 02:52:07,580
What do you need?

4975
02:52:07,640 --> 02:52:10,040
You need food, hygiene.

4976
02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:11,860
They got some candles here.

4977
02:52:11,860 --> 02:52:13,540
Something to keep warm.

4978
02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:14,640
Flashlight.

4979
02:52:15,380 --> 02:52:15,740
Candles.

4980
02:52:16,020 --> 02:52:17,340
They have candles.

4981
02:52:17,760 --> 02:52:21,300
You need candles, toothbrush, a radio with batteries.

4982
02:52:21,700 --> 02:52:22,160
Good luck.

4983
02:52:24,260 --> 02:52:24,820
Wow.

4984
02:52:25,840 --> 02:52:26,240
Wow.

4985
02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:27,560
This is nuts.

4986
02:52:29,480 --> 02:52:31,120
I got to get her out of there.

4987
02:52:31,260 --> 02:52:31,720
I've got to.

4988
02:52:31,720 --> 02:52:34,200
I don't think it's because of the Russian

4989
02:52:34,200 --> 02:52:34,560
gas.

4990
02:52:34,640 --> 02:52:39,260
It's because of the Jews who are retaliating

4991
02:52:39,260 --> 02:52:41,280
against them being cut out of the Eurovision

4992
02:52:41,280 --> 02:52:41,840
contest.

4993
02:52:42,360 --> 02:52:43,360
It's the Jews, man.

4994
02:52:43,520 --> 02:52:44,160
It's the Jews.

4995
02:52:45,680 --> 02:52:47,260
Yeah, I think you're right.

4996
02:52:47,480 --> 02:52:48,340
Yeah, I think you're right.

4997
02:52:49,140 --> 02:52:49,760
Spot on.

4998
02:52:50,680 --> 02:52:53,040
Well, in America, we're not worried about things

4999
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:53,480
like that.

5000
02:52:53,560 --> 02:52:56,020
We don't have young people worrying about 72

5001
02:52:56,020 --> 02:52:57,260
hours without electricity.

5002
02:52:57,480 --> 02:52:59,340
No, we have things that they need to

5003
02:52:59,340 --> 02:52:59,720
worry about.

5004
02:52:59,740 --> 02:53:01,760
Like, did I lose my prop bet?

5005
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:03,500
In tonight's Eye on America, we're looking at

5006
02:53:03,500 --> 02:53:06,380
a form of online betting that's rapidly growing

5007
02:53:06,380 --> 02:53:07,120
in popularity.

5008
02:53:07,120 --> 02:53:10,480
That's market trading with predictions where you can

5009
02:53:10,480 --> 02:53:12,880
invest in the outcome of real world events.

5010
02:53:13,400 --> 02:53:13,620
Invest.

5011
02:53:16,780 --> 02:53:19,820
Joel Holsinger just quit his day job to

5012
02:53:19,820 --> 02:53:21,160
bet on anything.

5013
02:53:21,480 --> 02:53:24,400
Like if Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell will

5014
02:53:24,400 --> 02:53:26,760
say the word pardon in a press conference.

5015
02:53:27,000 --> 02:53:29,000
Our thinking was, wait, pardon me.

5016
02:53:29,280 --> 02:53:35,220
I streamed and watched the speech live.

5017
02:53:35,220 --> 02:53:37,340
Powell coughed and said, pardon me.

5018
02:53:37,460 --> 02:53:38,520
And, you know, I made $500.

5019
02:53:39,320 --> 02:53:41,680
From his computer, the 26 year old says

5020
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:44,540
he makes about $3,000 a week trading

5021
02:53:44,540 --> 02:53:46,300
on the prediction market, Kelshi.

5022
02:53:46,680 --> 02:53:49,860
Kelshi lets you legally trade on anything, anywhere

5023
02:53:49,860 --> 02:53:51,940
in the U.S. Thanks to companies like

5024
02:53:51,940 --> 02:53:55,080
Kelshi, Polymarket and Predict It, betting on anything

5025
02:53:55,080 --> 02:53:58,300
from elections to Taylor Swift has never been

5026
02:53:58,300 --> 02:53:58,740
easier.

5027
02:53:59,580 --> 02:54:02,300
Man, I had no idea it was like

5028
02:54:02,300 --> 02:54:02,800
this.

5029
02:54:02,800 --> 02:54:03,680
Oh, yeah.

5030
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:06,900
And some of the brokerage companies like Interactive,

5031
02:54:07,020 --> 02:54:09,080
for example, has opened up a system that

5032
02:54:09,080 --> 02:54:09,820
does this.

5033
02:54:10,260 --> 02:54:10,720
Interactive Brokers.

5034
02:54:10,720 --> 02:54:12,400
So you can bet on whether the prime,

5035
02:54:12,820 --> 02:54:15,040
I don't know if they have the prop

5036
02:54:15,040 --> 02:54:17,280
bets like that, because that's pretty specific.

5037
02:54:17,500 --> 02:54:18,840
But they have the bets.

5038
02:54:18,940 --> 02:54:21,020
You bet on whether the interest rates next

5039
02:54:21,020 --> 02:54:23,960
week's meeting is going to be dropped 0

5040
02:54:23,960 --> 02:54:25,200
.25 or not.

5041
02:54:25,320 --> 02:54:27,000
It's like you bet a dollar, you win

5042
02:54:27,000 --> 02:54:29,760
10 cents if you think it's going to

5043
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:31,320
be dropped because everyone thinks it's going to

5044
02:54:31,320 --> 02:54:31,500
be dropped.

5045
02:54:31,500 --> 02:54:32,600
It's 1 to 10?

5046
02:54:33,500 --> 02:54:35,040
For that particular bet.

5047
02:54:35,100 --> 02:54:35,340
Yeah.

5048
02:54:35,640 --> 02:54:35,780
Okay.

5049
02:54:36,300 --> 02:54:36,560
Huh.

5050
02:54:36,680 --> 02:54:37,600
I got to get into this.

5051
02:54:37,780 --> 02:54:40,020
If it doesn't get dropped, you bet one,

5052
02:54:40,140 --> 02:54:41,760
I think you make like a buck 50

5053
02:54:41,760 --> 02:54:43,800
on top of the one.

5054
02:54:43,940 --> 02:54:46,200
So you get some $2 plus $2 plus

5055
02:54:46,200 --> 02:54:46,580
something.

5056
02:54:47,000 --> 02:54:48,020
No, this is ridiculous.

5057
02:54:48,200 --> 02:54:48,980
This is gambling.

5058
02:54:50,600 --> 02:54:52,560
It's just like I remember when I was

5059
02:54:52,560 --> 02:54:55,560
in college, there was this group of veteran

5060
02:54:55,560 --> 02:54:58,880
gamblers who had, they just lived together.

5061
02:54:58,980 --> 02:54:59,900
They were betting on everything.

5062
02:54:59,900 --> 02:55:01,660
We went out with a group of them.

5063
02:55:02,120 --> 02:55:04,200
These guys, they were degenerates.

5064
02:55:04,780 --> 02:55:06,280
And it was like you go in their

5065
02:55:06,280 --> 02:55:08,440
place, they had a sign over the fireplace

5066
02:55:08,440 --> 02:55:10,000
that says, God is unemployed.

5067
02:55:10,160 --> 02:55:11,320
That was the theme of the place.

5068
02:55:12,760 --> 02:55:14,540
And one guy had to get, I swear,

5069
02:55:14,680 --> 02:55:16,120
one guy had to get his jacket.

5070
02:55:16,680 --> 02:55:18,680
And while they were waiting for him to

5071
02:55:18,680 --> 02:55:20,680
come back with his jacket, the two guys

5072
02:55:20,680 --> 02:55:23,300
are flipping quarters to see who, you know,

5073
02:55:23,380 --> 02:55:23,720
heads.

5074
02:55:23,900 --> 02:55:24,740
Okay, here's your quarter.

5075
02:55:24,960 --> 02:55:26,820
And they couldn't, they were just gambling.

5076
02:55:27,000 --> 02:55:27,760
They're horrible.

5077
02:55:27,760 --> 02:55:30,300
It's just a terrible thing to be addicted

5078
02:55:30,300 --> 02:55:30,540
to.

5079
02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:31,740
I mean, it's unbelievable.

5080
02:55:31,960 --> 02:55:33,700
And in fact, this incursion should be illegal.

5081
02:55:34,120 --> 02:55:35,800
Well, they have the CEO on the show.

5082
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:38,200
What is a prediction market?

5083
02:55:38,760 --> 02:55:41,540
So the prediction market is like the stock

5084
02:55:41,540 --> 02:55:41,860
market.

5085
02:55:42,560 --> 02:55:44,440
But instead of buying and selling companies, you're

5086
02:55:44,440 --> 02:55:46,900
buying yes or no on whether something is

5087
02:55:46,900 --> 02:55:47,880
going to happen or not.

5088
02:55:48,180 --> 02:55:50,700
Tarek Mansour and Luana Lopez-Lara are the

5089
02:55:50,700 --> 02:55:51,980
co-founders of Kelshi.

5090
02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:53,900
People can make money on what they know,

5091
02:55:54,260 --> 02:55:56,620
actually monetize their knowledge, monetize their hobby.

5092
02:55:56,620 --> 02:55:59,260
Kelshi's users trade an average of a billion

5093
02:55:59,260 --> 02:56:02,440
dollars a week, banking heavily on sports.

5094
02:56:04,580 --> 02:56:06,820
You can bet on things that a traditional

5095
02:56:06,820 --> 02:56:08,220
sports book would offer you.

5096
02:56:08,580 --> 02:56:10,820
Which is a concern for author Jonathan Cohen,

5097
02:56:11,160 --> 02:56:13,280
who has chronicled the rise of sports betting

5098
02:56:13,280 --> 02:56:15,860
in the U.S. So you think this

5099
02:56:15,860 --> 02:56:16,740
is just gambling?

5100
02:56:17,040 --> 02:56:17,260
Yes.

5101
02:56:17,920 --> 02:56:20,280
But Kelshi is not regulated like gambling.

5102
02:56:20,700 --> 02:56:23,160
And several states have sued, alleging the platform

5103
02:56:23,160 --> 02:56:25,420
offers unlawful sports wagering.

5104
02:56:25,420 --> 02:56:28,860
And unlike most sports betting sites, users can

5105
02:56:28,860 --> 02:56:32,040
also bet on games in other financial apps,

5106
02:56:32,200 --> 02:56:35,160
which hold investments like retirement accounts.

5107
02:56:35,620 --> 02:56:37,180
In the same app that you use to

5108
02:56:37,180 --> 02:56:39,860
manage your 401k or your stock portfolio, you

5109
02:56:39,860 --> 02:56:41,240
can like bet on the Jets game.

5110
02:56:41,460 --> 02:56:44,020
Creating more risk that some bettors could drain

5111
02:56:44,020 --> 02:56:45,000
those savings.

5112
02:56:45,320 --> 02:56:46,240
That friction is gone.

5113
02:56:46,420 --> 02:56:49,760
You can gamble on sports and you can

5114
02:56:49,760 --> 02:56:51,400
gamble away like your life savings.

5115
02:56:51,400 --> 02:56:54,400
And while federal regulations on prediction markets are

5116
02:56:54,400 --> 02:56:57,660
rapidly evolving, both Kelshi and its main competitor,

5117
02:56:57,900 --> 02:57:00,860
PolyMarket, have brought on a new strategic advisor,

5118
02:57:01,220 --> 02:57:04,880
the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. Does

5119
02:57:04,880 --> 02:57:05,980
he come to meetings?

5120
02:57:06,220 --> 02:57:07,340
How much do you pay him?

5121
02:57:07,600 --> 02:57:08,200
What's his role?

5122
02:57:08,280 --> 02:57:09,220
I mean, this is the son of the

5123
02:57:09,220 --> 02:57:09,540
president.

5124
02:57:10,380 --> 02:57:11,780
I mean, we have a lot of advisors.

5125
02:57:12,100 --> 02:57:14,300
And whether it's our investors, whether it's people

5126
02:57:14,300 --> 02:57:16,080
that we really trust and respect.

5127
02:57:16,320 --> 02:57:17,700
But he's not just any advisor.

5128
02:57:18,140 --> 02:57:19,600
He's a direct line to the White House.

5129
02:57:21,400 --> 02:57:22,280
We have a lot of advisors.

5130
02:57:22,660 --> 02:57:25,140
While Kelshi's CEO did not answer that question,

5131
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:26,720
one thing is clear.

5132
02:57:27,100 --> 02:57:29,920
Kelshi believes the popularity of online betting is

5133
02:57:29,920 --> 02:57:31,220
just kicking off.

5134
02:57:31,920 --> 02:57:33,880
Well, here's what I learned.

5135
02:57:34,840 --> 02:57:36,740
We need to become advisors.

5136
02:57:37,780 --> 02:57:42,220
And the Curry Dvorak advisory group is ready

5137
02:57:42,220 --> 02:57:45,100
to advise you in exchange for shares and

5138
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:46,880
cash on anything you've got going.

5139
02:57:47,940 --> 02:57:49,000
And we're good.

5140
02:57:49,640 --> 02:57:50,740
Yeah, we're good.

5141
02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:52,480
People should be calling us tomorrow.

5142
02:58:06,100 --> 02:58:08,520
And we still have some producers to thank.

5143
02:58:08,760 --> 02:58:10,780
Over $50 and under $200.

5144
02:58:11,020 --> 02:58:12,480
And Adam's going to run through them as

5145
02:58:12,480 --> 02:58:14,200
we listen.

5146
02:58:14,420 --> 02:58:15,020
We're going to listen.

5147
02:58:15,360 --> 02:58:18,180
Well, we're speaking and I'm speaking and you

5148
02:58:18,180 --> 02:58:18,780
should be listening.

5149
02:58:18,780 --> 02:58:21,500
Yes, thank you very much to these producers

5150
02:58:21,500 --> 02:58:22,880
who supported us.

5151
02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:25,960
Every single amount is valuable to us.

5152
02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:27,040
It is value for value.

5153
02:58:27,140 --> 02:58:30,020
Only you can determine what equals the value

5154
02:58:30,020 --> 02:58:31,840
in monetary form that you get out of

5155
02:58:31,840 --> 02:58:32,200
the show.

5156
02:58:32,300 --> 02:58:36,280
And Stephen Kirkpatrick from Langley, Washington said $119

5157
02:58:36,280 --> 02:58:38,940
.21. And we thank him for that.

5158
02:58:39,440 --> 02:58:43,340
Leroy Pacheco in Santa Fe, New Mexico, 105

5159
02:58:43,340 --> 02:58:45,620
.35. He says, thank you for keeping me

5160
02:58:45,620 --> 02:58:46,580
informed and entertained.

5161
02:58:46,580 --> 02:58:50,620
Kevin Jackson from Kemah, Texas.

5162
02:58:51,180 --> 02:58:52,320
This must be with fees.

5163
02:58:52,420 --> 02:58:55,720
105.35. Julie Herbort in Fredericksburg.

5164
02:58:56,020 --> 02:58:57,780
Julie, do I know Julie?

5165
02:58:58,660 --> 02:58:59,140
Yeah.

5166
02:58:59,620 --> 02:59:00,580
I must know Julie.

5167
02:59:01,000 --> 02:59:02,140
She's in Fredericksburg, Texas.

5168
02:59:02,800 --> 02:59:04,720
Well, I know a lot of Julies.

5169
02:59:04,800 --> 02:59:05,680
I don't know everybody's last.

5170
02:59:05,740 --> 02:59:06,780
I'm horrible at names.

5171
02:59:07,380 --> 02:59:08,000
Thank you, Julie.

5172
02:59:08,480 --> 02:59:09,360
See you at the meeting.

5173
02:59:10,420 --> 02:59:11,300
Baron Ladeken.

5174
02:59:11,400 --> 02:59:12,780
Oh, haven't seen him in a while.

5175
02:59:12,840 --> 02:59:13,480
He's from Houston.

5176
02:59:13,580 --> 02:59:13,900
$100.

5177
02:59:14,740 --> 02:59:17,840
Brady Kessler from Lee's Summit, Missouri.

5178
02:59:17,960 --> 02:59:18,240
$100.

5179
02:59:18,720 --> 02:59:21,640
Sir F.A. Ion Beck, Vista, California.

5180
02:59:21,720 --> 02:59:22,120
$100.

5181
02:59:22,720 --> 02:59:26,260
Tobiaston Real Estate Services in Gardner, Kansas.

5182
02:59:26,680 --> 02:59:28,860
For all your real estate servicing needs.

5183
02:59:29,280 --> 02:59:33,340
$88.08. Glenn Spangler from Roseville, Michigan.

5184
02:59:33,920 --> 02:59:36,800
$84.38. And there's Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke

5185
02:59:36,800 --> 02:59:37,200
of Duna.

5186
02:59:37,720 --> 02:59:39,440
Luna, a lover of America and boobs.

5187
02:59:39,560 --> 02:59:43,000
With $8008 for episode 1822.

5188
02:59:43,000 --> 02:59:45,840
He comes in every single show and he

5189
02:59:45,840 --> 02:59:47,860
says, I love America and boobs.

5190
02:59:47,920 --> 02:59:49,440
Not necessarily always in that order.

5191
02:59:49,900 --> 02:59:52,160
Edward Owens jumps on the bandwagon with a

5192
02:59:52,160 --> 02:59:52,720
boob donation.

5193
02:59:53,240 --> 02:59:53,880
$8008.

5194
02:59:54,080 --> 02:59:55,760
From Alameda, California.

5195
02:59:55,900 --> 02:59:58,480
Brian Reyna, Keensburg, New Jersey.

5196
02:59:58,820 --> 03:00:01,140
$76.54. Oh, I see what you did.

5197
03:00:01,240 --> 03:00:04,940
$76.54. Dame Dana, Laughlin, Nevada.

5198
03:00:05,160 --> 03:00:07,440
$72.27. Oh, palindrome.

5199
03:00:07,980 --> 03:00:11,160
Pete Lachance in Oviedo, Florida.

5200
03:00:11,520 --> 03:00:12,440
Oviedo, Florida.

5201
03:00:13,000 --> 03:00:13,920
Pete Lachance.

5202
03:00:14,360 --> 03:00:17,520
And he comes in with $69.96. God

5203
03:00:17,520 --> 03:00:18,380
bless Adam and John.

5204
03:00:18,460 --> 03:00:19,300
Thank you for all you do.

5205
03:00:20,000 --> 03:00:24,080
Puppy Chow from Christian Gruelich with $67.67.

5206
03:00:24,540 --> 03:00:26,960
Les Tarkowski from Kingman, Arizona.

5207
03:00:27,160 --> 03:00:33,380
Small boob, $6.006. Sander, this is, oh,

5208
03:00:33,400 --> 03:00:34,020
he's from Holland.

5209
03:00:34,240 --> 03:00:39,640
So Sander Glasenburg, $55.55. Brian Furley, $55

5210
03:00:39,640 --> 03:00:41,040
.01. Double nickels on the dime.

5211
03:00:41,120 --> 03:00:42,000
Double nickels on the dime.

5212
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:45,180
Also from Jonathan Farris and SirBecomingHeroic.

5213
03:00:45,640 --> 03:00:47,500
And Christopher Burke from St. Paul, Minnesota.

5214
03:00:47,540 --> 03:00:48,000
Let me show you.

5215
03:00:48,040 --> 03:00:49,060
Did you get Brian Furley?

5216
03:00:49,320 --> 03:00:49,820
Yes, I did.

5217
03:00:50,560 --> 03:00:51,160
Okay, sorry.

5218
03:00:51,560 --> 03:00:52,460
Thanks for checking.

5219
03:00:53,560 --> 03:00:55,620
SirBecomingHeroic, $51.00. Double nickels on the dime.

5220
03:00:55,760 --> 03:00:57,800
Christopher Burke from St. Paul, Minnesota.

5221
03:00:58,020 --> 03:01:02,160
$52.72. John Balsano, Madison, Alabama.

5222
03:01:02,300 --> 03:01:06,080
$52.72. SirXenonymous from Liverpool, UK.

5223
03:01:06,300 --> 03:01:09,720
One of the few remaining UK donors who

5224
03:01:09,720 --> 03:01:10,520
are still alive.

5225
03:01:10,520 --> 03:01:15,060
$52.72. Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.

5226
03:01:15,200 --> 03:01:18,000
$52.72. He does have a note.

5227
03:01:18,140 --> 03:01:19,720
He says, I use Outlook and got the

5228
03:01:19,720 --> 03:01:22,520
first send of the newsletter on December 3rd,

5229
03:01:22,540 --> 03:01:25,500
as well as the anomaly follow-up email

5230
03:01:25,500 --> 03:01:26,360
later that evening.

5231
03:01:26,480 --> 03:01:27,800
I have not received the newsletter.

5232
03:01:27,980 --> 03:01:30,400
I've never not received a newsletter using Outlook

5233
03:01:30,400 --> 03:01:30,940
.com.

5234
03:01:31,460 --> 03:01:32,900
Well, that's good info.

5235
03:01:33,800 --> 03:01:35,140
Not everyone can say that.

5236
03:01:35,240 --> 03:01:37,660
So that's just, it's another one of those

5237
03:01:37,660 --> 03:01:37,880
things.

5238
03:01:38,060 --> 03:01:39,620
Plenty of Outlook people didn't get it.

5239
03:01:39,620 --> 03:01:41,620
Tony Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado.

5240
03:01:41,760 --> 03:01:42,040
$50.

5241
03:01:42,120 --> 03:01:43,240
These are all the 50s.

5242
03:01:43,340 --> 03:01:45,100
Scott McCarty from Lodi, California.

5243
03:01:45,280 --> 03:01:47,300
Paul Cassell in Kerrville, Texas.

5244
03:01:47,380 --> 03:01:48,120
Right down the road.

5245
03:01:48,220 --> 03:01:48,860
I see you, Paul.

5246
03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:51,160
Legacy Third LLC in Dallas.

5247
03:01:51,640 --> 03:01:53,480
Daniel LaBoi in Bath, Michigan.

5248
03:01:53,740 --> 03:01:55,620
Foster Birch in New York, New York.

5249
03:01:55,760 --> 03:01:56,980
You met Miss Matt.

5250
03:01:57,120 --> 03:01:59,800
Matt Frazee in St. John's, Florida.

5251
03:02:00,080 --> 03:02:02,940
James Sherametta in Nappanock, New York.

5252
03:02:03,320 --> 03:02:05,600
Chris Conacher in Anchorage, Alaska.

5253
03:02:05,780 --> 03:02:08,400
John Fitzpatrick in Herber Springs, Arizona.

5254
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:12,180
Ichi Kitagawa, San Francisco, California, where they're suing

5255
03:02:12,180 --> 03:02:12,800
the big food.

5256
03:02:13,180 --> 03:02:14,720
Harry Klan in Aledo, Texas.

5257
03:02:14,900 --> 03:02:16,380
Man, Texas showing up for us.

5258
03:02:16,820 --> 03:02:19,260
Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California.

5259
03:02:19,580 --> 03:02:21,700
And Leslie Walker to wind out our 50s

5260
03:02:21,700 --> 03:02:23,240
from Roseburg, Oregon.

5261
03:02:23,720 --> 03:02:25,340
And she says, I love the show.

5262
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:29,140
We do not mention anyone under $50 for

5263
03:02:29,140 --> 03:02:31,540
reasons of anonymity, but I see you $49

5264
03:02:31,540 --> 03:02:33,020
.99 and I get it.

5265
03:02:33,100 --> 03:02:33,860
Thank you very much.

5266
03:02:34,360 --> 03:02:37,000
We appreciate every single donation to the No

5267
03:02:37,000 --> 03:02:37,580
Agenda Show.

5268
03:02:37,580 --> 03:02:38,900
We are value for value.

5269
03:02:39,400 --> 03:02:41,980
We do not take any other form of

5270
03:02:41,980 --> 03:02:45,180
income except what you find valuable and send

5271
03:02:45,180 --> 03:02:48,960
to us through these manners at noagendadonations.com.

5272
03:02:49,440 --> 03:02:52,200
And this is a rare moment.

5273
03:02:52,900 --> 03:02:55,540
I get to say noagendadonations.com, but I

5274
03:02:55,540 --> 03:02:57,280
don't get to play the birthday jingle because

5275
03:02:57,280 --> 03:02:59,420
no one was born on December 4th.

5276
03:03:00,100 --> 03:03:01,360
Not a single person.

5277
03:03:01,840 --> 03:03:04,880
It was a dip in the birthing schedule.

5278
03:03:05,880 --> 03:03:06,540
Has this ever happened?

5279
03:03:06,540 --> 03:03:07,240
Solar flare.

5280
03:03:08,320 --> 03:03:13,400
So instead, No Agenda Meetups!

5281
03:03:16,040 --> 03:03:21,320
Yes, instead, we will talk about the meetups

5282
03:03:21,320 --> 03:03:22,220
that are coming up.

5283
03:03:22,260 --> 03:03:25,360
Today, we have the 805 Rooftop Meetup, four

5284
03:03:25,360 --> 03:03:28,800
o'clock, that specific time, Goleta, California, Dame

5285
03:03:28,800 --> 03:03:29,100
Beth.

5286
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:30,440
Yes, that is today.

5287
03:03:30,600 --> 03:03:31,000
It's correct.

5288
03:03:31,100 --> 03:03:31,800
She sent me a note.

5289
03:03:31,900 --> 03:03:34,700
I made a mistake and she, her heart

5290
03:03:34,700 --> 03:03:35,080
dropped.

5291
03:03:36,080 --> 03:03:38,580
Also today, the pre-St. Oh, yes.

5292
03:03:38,900 --> 03:03:41,960
The pre-St.  Nicholas Day or Thanksgiving Part

5293
03:03:41,960 --> 03:03:44,020
Deux in Raleigh, North Carolina.

5294
03:03:44,260 --> 03:03:45,060
Saints and scholars.

5295
03:03:45,500 --> 03:03:47,900
Yes, this is the evening when all the

5296
03:03:47,900 --> 03:03:50,560
little Dutch children put their wooden shoes outside

5297
03:03:50,560 --> 03:03:52,360
the door and hope that St. Nicholas will

5298
03:03:52,360 --> 03:03:54,340
come and put some candy in it and

5299
03:03:54,340 --> 03:03:56,600
that the Black Peets, or these days we

5300
03:03:56,600 --> 03:03:58,820
call them the Rainbow Peets, won't come along

5301
03:03:58,820 --> 03:04:00,240
and stick them in the bag and take

5302
03:04:00,240 --> 03:04:01,780
them back to Spain on the steamboat.

5303
03:04:02,300 --> 03:04:03,380
It's a weird country.

5304
03:04:04,160 --> 03:04:07,840
Tomorrow, Pensacola, Florida, the Pensacola Fun Meetup, one

5305
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:10,840
o'clock at Coastal County Brewery in Pensacola,

5306
03:04:10,940 --> 03:04:11,220
Florida.

5307
03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:14,760
On Saturday, the No Agenda Central Ohio Meetup.

5308
03:04:14,820 --> 03:04:16,980
That is at 530 at Dempsey's in Columbus.

5309
03:04:17,520 --> 03:04:19,060
And to wind it out on our next

5310
03:04:19,060 --> 03:04:22,180
show day, I must be high, number 17.

5311
03:04:22,700 --> 03:04:25,720
That's at McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in

5312
03:04:25,720 --> 03:04:28,340
Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

5313
03:04:28,940 --> 03:04:30,900
Just a few of the many meetups that

5314
03:04:30,900 --> 03:04:32,960
you can find at noagendameetups.com.

5315
03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:35,700
Daniel, thank you for the value that you

5316
03:04:35,700 --> 03:04:38,080
provide to the show by maintaining that and

5317
03:04:38,080 --> 03:04:39,000
keeping everything running.

5318
03:04:39,160 --> 03:04:43,700
And Mimi, of course, for managing that process

5319
03:04:43,700 --> 03:04:44,160
as well.

5320
03:04:44,580 --> 03:04:47,040
Go to noagendameetups.com, find a meetup.

5321
03:04:47,260 --> 03:04:48,920
This is a place where you will get

5322
03:04:48,920 --> 03:04:53,740
connection that will provide protection for the rest

5323
03:04:53,740 --> 03:04:54,300
of your life.

5324
03:04:54,680 --> 03:04:56,680
First responders, they're here at these meetups.

5325
03:04:56,760 --> 03:04:58,720
If you can't find one near you, start

5326
03:04:58,720 --> 03:04:59,300
one yourself.

5327
03:04:59,480 --> 03:05:01,660
Put it over there at noagendameetups.com.

5328
03:05:20,640 --> 03:05:22,820
And for those of you who heard the

5329
03:05:22,820 --> 03:05:24,200
call and went, you know, I should probably

5330
03:05:24,200 --> 03:05:26,580
stick around past those donation segments because there's

5331
03:05:26,580 --> 03:05:28,080
a lot of fun stuff that happens.

5332
03:05:30,120 --> 03:05:32,360
And sound effects, there's all kinds of groovy

5333
03:05:32,360 --> 03:05:32,640
stuff.

5334
03:05:32,960 --> 03:05:34,780
This is where we select our end of

5335
03:05:34,780 --> 03:05:36,660
show ISOs, which is just kind of a

5336
03:05:36,660 --> 03:05:37,540
fun thing we do.

5337
03:05:38,780 --> 03:05:40,480
And I get real people.

5338
03:05:40,680 --> 03:05:43,840
And John practices his AI prompting, which he's

5339
03:05:43,840 --> 03:05:45,880
doing on the free tier of 11 Labs,

5340
03:05:45,980 --> 03:05:48,380
which, yeah, it's always the same guy with

5341
03:05:48,380 --> 03:05:48,760
whatever.

5342
03:05:48,980 --> 03:05:50,500
No, I got a new person.

5343
03:05:50,580 --> 03:05:52,080
Whatever Marty came up with.

5344
03:05:52,200 --> 03:05:52,700
Oh, Johnny.

5345
03:05:53,000 --> 03:05:54,320
No, Marty doesn't write these.

5346
03:05:54,520 --> 03:05:55,420
Here's mine too.

5347
03:05:55,540 --> 03:05:57,120
I've lost faith in Wall Street.

5348
03:05:57,900 --> 03:05:58,620
That's no good.

5349
03:05:58,720 --> 03:05:59,360
How about this one?

5350
03:05:59,520 --> 03:06:00,840
They have large wieners.

5351
03:06:01,040 --> 03:06:02,000
Yeah, that's a good one.

5352
03:06:02,000 --> 03:06:03,220
They have large wieners.

5353
03:06:04,680 --> 03:06:06,920
That's my end of show ISO idea.

5354
03:06:09,080 --> 03:06:10,640
Kind of like the second one.

5355
03:06:10,780 --> 03:06:11,020
Yes.

5356
03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:12,420
They have large wieners.

5357
03:06:14,300 --> 03:06:16,840
Okay, let's go.

5358
03:06:16,980 --> 03:06:18,400
I have two with a new person.

5359
03:06:18,560 --> 03:06:18,740
Yeah.

5360
03:06:18,860 --> 03:06:20,700
I've never used this voice before.

5361
03:06:21,800 --> 03:06:22,280
Sizzled.

5362
03:06:23,020 --> 03:06:24,200
That show sizzled.

5363
03:06:26,020 --> 03:06:28,300
That'd be a good combo with large wieners.

5364
03:06:29,620 --> 03:06:31,240
That show sizzled.

5365
03:06:31,320 --> 03:06:32,600
They have large wieners.

5366
03:06:34,780 --> 03:06:36,700
Let's hear your other one just in case.

5367
03:06:37,200 --> 03:06:37,300
Yeah.

5368
03:06:37,760 --> 03:06:39,840
Too long.

5369
03:06:40,120 --> 03:06:42,200
Good show, but too long.

5370
03:06:42,360 --> 03:06:43,840
No, I think we have a winner here.

5371
03:06:43,940 --> 03:06:44,320
I think.

5372
03:06:44,580 --> 03:06:45,900
That show sizzled.

5373
03:06:46,020 --> 03:06:47,220
They have large wieners.

5374
03:06:47,320 --> 03:06:47,800
Yeah, baby.

5375
03:06:47,880 --> 03:06:48,800
That's who we're going with.

5376
03:06:48,860 --> 03:06:50,720
Hey, but first it's time for John's tip

5377
03:06:50,720 --> 03:06:51,680
of the day.

5378
03:07:03,760 --> 03:07:07,260
This is an obscure tip for you, connoisseurs

5379
03:07:07,260 --> 03:07:08,280
of champagne.

5380
03:07:08,540 --> 03:07:09,480
A lot of people don't know this.

5381
03:07:09,640 --> 03:07:10,700
Oh, I love champagne.

5382
03:07:10,760 --> 03:07:11,780
I love the bubbly, man.

5383
03:07:11,860 --> 03:07:12,980
I love the bubbly.

5384
03:07:13,580 --> 03:07:16,200
On every bottle of champagne, there's a code,

5385
03:07:16,580 --> 03:07:19,000
two-letter code that tells you what kind

5386
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:20,360
of champagne it really is.

5387
03:07:20,540 --> 03:07:20,820
Oh.

5388
03:07:21,840 --> 03:07:24,740
And it appears usually at the very bottom

5389
03:07:24,740 --> 03:07:25,760
of the label.

5390
03:07:26,220 --> 03:07:28,520
And it's like two-point type.

5391
03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:32,760
And it consists of two letters, usually a

5392
03:07:32,760 --> 03:07:34,920
number and then some name.

5393
03:07:35,160 --> 03:07:36,480
Anything can follow that.

5394
03:07:36,840 --> 03:07:39,060
But these two letters are the important part.

5395
03:07:40,740 --> 03:07:43,800
And these two letters are, for example, there's

5396
03:07:43,800 --> 03:07:44,260
a bunch of them.

5397
03:07:44,340 --> 03:07:45,860
I think there's eight different ones that are

5398
03:07:45,860 --> 03:07:46,200
possible.

5399
03:07:46,320 --> 03:07:48,220
There's only two or three that are important

5400
03:07:48,220 --> 03:07:48,640
to know.

5401
03:07:50,560 --> 03:07:53,560
If it says, because everyone's talking about it,

5402
03:07:53,580 --> 03:07:54,780
maybe this is the tip of the day

5403
03:07:54,780 --> 03:07:56,740
really, is grower's champagne.

5404
03:07:57,280 --> 03:07:57,520
Oh.

5405
03:07:57,520 --> 03:08:00,780
Grower's champagne is always touted as, ugh, you

5406
03:08:00,780 --> 03:08:00,880
know.

5407
03:08:00,900 --> 03:08:01,480
It's the best.

5408
03:08:01,760 --> 03:08:04,120
Grower's champagne is the champagne made by the

5409
03:08:04,120 --> 03:08:06,280
grower who grew the grapes makes the wine.

5410
03:08:06,600 --> 03:08:06,960
Yes.

5411
03:08:07,560 --> 03:08:08,960
This is not usual.

5412
03:08:09,140 --> 03:08:12,840
Most champagnes are made by a large manufacturing

5413
03:08:12,840 --> 03:08:13,980
company like Bollinger.

5414
03:08:14,160 --> 03:08:16,680
And they buy, they have these contracts with

5415
03:08:16,680 --> 03:08:17,340
all these growers.

5416
03:08:17,480 --> 03:08:18,920
And they get all the champagne grapes in.

5417
03:08:18,960 --> 03:08:20,300
They have a superstar winemaker.

5418
03:08:20,380 --> 03:08:21,580
And they make a really good product.

5419
03:08:21,860 --> 03:08:24,540
It should always cost more for that wine

5420
03:08:24,540 --> 03:08:25,860
than it does for the grower's champagne.

5421
03:08:25,860 --> 03:08:28,200
Grower's champagne should be cheaper.

5422
03:08:28,560 --> 03:08:30,880
Oh, I always thought the grower's champagne was

5423
03:08:30,880 --> 03:08:32,240
more exclusive.

5424
03:08:33,220 --> 03:08:35,680
It's more exclusive in smaller quantities.

5425
03:08:35,860 --> 03:08:37,960
But it should be cheaper.

5426
03:08:38,600 --> 03:08:40,800
And anyone who's marking, but some of these

5427
03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:43,780
guys, these importers will mark it up.

5428
03:08:44,240 --> 03:08:48,180
But grower's champagne is generally cheaper and should

5429
03:08:48,180 --> 03:08:48,360
be.

5430
03:08:48,440 --> 03:08:49,140
And here's how you can tell.

5431
03:08:49,260 --> 03:08:50,840
But the little two letters at the bottom

5432
03:08:50,840 --> 03:08:53,650
of the champagne bottle, you'll see, it's either

5433
03:08:53,650 --> 03:08:56,110
going to say N.M. or R.M.

5434
03:08:57,030 --> 03:08:57,370
It's good.

5435
03:08:57,430 --> 03:08:58,370
This is two letters.

5436
03:08:59,070 --> 03:09:01,750
And the N.M. means the negotiant manipulant.

5437
03:09:01,850 --> 03:09:04,290
That means the guy who bought the grapes

5438
03:09:04,290 --> 03:09:05,450
and made the wine.

5439
03:09:06,010 --> 03:09:08,890
R.M. is a recoltant manipulant.

5440
03:09:09,010 --> 03:09:12,670
And that's the guy who harvested, recoltant, that

5441
03:09:12,670 --> 03:09:13,590
means the harvester.

5442
03:09:14,250 --> 03:09:15,250
So he grew the grapes.

5443
03:09:15,350 --> 03:09:17,230
So you look for R.M. You see

5444
03:09:17,230 --> 03:09:18,410
R.M. at the bottom.

5445
03:09:18,410 --> 03:09:21,590
That means it's a grower's champagne, which is

5446
03:09:21,590 --> 03:09:22,410
everyone touts.

5447
03:09:22,530 --> 03:09:23,690
Oh, grower's champagne.

5448
03:09:24,490 --> 03:09:25,730
Well, now I'm confused.

5449
03:09:25,890 --> 03:09:27,270
It's hard to be as good as Bollinger,

5450
03:09:27,330 --> 03:09:29,630
but some of them, the chief, they have

5451
03:09:29,630 --> 03:09:30,490
different flavor.

5452
03:09:30,630 --> 03:09:33,770
They're just slightly, they're more authentic.

5453
03:09:33,850 --> 03:09:34,890
Let's put it that way.

5454
03:09:35,030 --> 03:09:35,230
Okay.

5455
03:09:35,430 --> 03:09:37,350
So now I have a question.

5456
03:09:37,910 --> 03:09:39,350
So just just to read it.

5457
03:09:39,510 --> 03:09:41,430
R.M. is the grower's champagne.

5458
03:09:42,630 --> 03:09:42,750
Right.

5459
03:09:43,890 --> 03:09:44,690
Recoltant manipulant.

5460
03:09:44,790 --> 03:09:45,010
Yes.

5461
03:09:45,190 --> 03:09:45,330
Yeah.

5462
03:09:45,330 --> 03:09:45,510
Okay.

5463
03:09:45,590 --> 03:09:46,610
So Romeo Mike.

5464
03:09:47,450 --> 03:09:48,210
Because Romeo Mike.

5465
03:09:48,210 --> 03:09:49,730
So what I'd like to do is say,

5466
03:09:50,190 --> 03:09:52,470
you know, this has R.M. on it.

5467
03:09:52,510 --> 03:09:54,170
This is a grower's champagne.

5468
03:09:54,670 --> 03:09:55,530
Yeah, you could do that.

5469
03:09:55,670 --> 03:09:57,570
This is, this is, this is the source

5470
03:09:57,570 --> 03:09:58,450
of the Bollinger.

5471
03:09:58,570 --> 03:10:00,270
This is right from the guy's hands.

5472
03:10:00,930 --> 03:10:02,650
Bollinger is never going to be a grower's

5473
03:10:02,650 --> 03:10:02,890
champagne.

5474
03:10:03,130 --> 03:10:05,390
Bollinger is N.M. I said, this is

5475
03:10:05,390 --> 03:10:05,950
the source.

5476
03:10:06,190 --> 03:10:06,410
Oh, yeah.

5477
03:10:06,450 --> 03:10:07,250
You could say that.

5478
03:10:07,390 --> 03:10:07,830
It's the source.

5479
03:10:08,290 --> 03:10:10,790
The guy's wife stomped the grapes with his

5480
03:10:10,790 --> 03:10:11,470
bare feet.

5481
03:10:11,830 --> 03:10:13,830
You're going to love this champagne.

5482
03:10:14,590 --> 03:10:15,310
You could do that.

5483
03:10:15,350 --> 03:10:15,490
Yeah.

5484
03:10:15,490 --> 03:10:16,730
If you were a sommelier and wanted to

5485
03:10:16,730 --> 03:10:17,470
bullshit somebody.

5486
03:10:17,710 --> 03:10:20,290
Yeah, I'm a B.S. I'm a bullshit.

5487
03:10:20,610 --> 03:10:22,650
Now, the other just just for the record,

5488
03:10:22,710 --> 03:10:25,250
there's a there's a six other designations.

5489
03:10:25,430 --> 03:10:27,750
And one if you get it contains the

5490
03:10:27,750 --> 03:10:29,930
letter C, there's C.M. And R.C.

5491
03:10:30,550 --> 03:10:32,170
C means it's a co-op wine.

5492
03:10:32,730 --> 03:10:34,070
Oh, this is like cheap jack.

5493
03:10:34,110 --> 03:10:34,530
It's like.

5494
03:10:34,670 --> 03:10:36,830
No, see, the thing is about wines in

5495
03:10:36,830 --> 03:10:37,150
France.

5496
03:10:37,150 --> 03:10:38,990
They're usually really good.

5497
03:10:39,750 --> 03:10:41,270
They have a really good wine.

5498
03:10:41,370 --> 03:10:43,390
You just don't like co-op stuff here

5499
03:10:43,390 --> 03:10:44,170
in the United States.

5500
03:10:44,170 --> 03:10:47,270
French are very dedicated to communist country.

5501
03:10:47,490 --> 03:10:47,990
Oh, there you go.

5502
03:10:48,110 --> 03:10:50,150
And they love the co-op stuff.

5503
03:10:50,230 --> 03:10:51,470
And so they make a co-op wine

5504
03:10:51,470 --> 03:10:52,810
with different labels on it.

5505
03:10:52,930 --> 03:10:54,030
And they put, you know, it could be

5506
03:10:54,030 --> 03:10:55,330
anybody's product.

5507
03:10:55,750 --> 03:10:57,250
So they look for the co-op ones.

5508
03:10:57,310 --> 03:10:58,870
Those are usually really cheap.

5509
03:10:59,430 --> 03:11:01,450
And then there's one you should look for,

5510
03:11:01,650 --> 03:11:04,150
which is a like if you bought a

5511
03:11:04,150 --> 03:11:07,450
Costco says Costco Kirkland champagne, it probably have

5512
03:11:07,450 --> 03:11:11,490
the letters M.A., which means it's just

5513
03:11:11,490 --> 03:11:12,330
a it's marketing.

5514
03:11:13,890 --> 03:11:15,570
We should be business marketing.

5515
03:11:15,750 --> 03:11:16,730
It's not there or anything.

5516
03:11:16,890 --> 03:11:17,350
Who knows?

5517
03:11:17,470 --> 03:11:19,150
They just put their label on it.

5518
03:11:19,250 --> 03:11:20,770
It's just a white label.

5519
03:11:20,910 --> 03:11:21,350
White label.

5520
03:11:21,590 --> 03:11:21,690
Yeah.

5521
03:11:21,690 --> 03:11:24,110
And it means mark the mark of mark

5522
03:11:24,110 --> 03:11:25,170
of the sales company.

5523
03:11:25,410 --> 03:11:28,650
Mark that I should do the sales guy.

5524
03:11:28,750 --> 03:11:30,910
So it's a sales price is champagne marketed

5525
03:11:30,910 --> 03:11:31,610
by a third party.

5526
03:11:32,010 --> 03:11:35,170
Now you look up champagne codes in Google

5527
03:11:35,170 --> 03:11:36,650
and you'll get the whole list and you

5528
03:11:36,650 --> 03:11:37,610
can see what you're doing.

5529
03:11:37,690 --> 03:11:39,370
So you can have some knowledge.

5530
03:11:39,370 --> 03:11:41,330
This is the only area in France that

5531
03:11:41,330 --> 03:11:42,470
does this little code.

5532
03:11:43,010 --> 03:11:44,130
And it's very valuable.

5533
03:11:44,310 --> 03:11:46,230
And can you just tell us what code

5534
03:11:46,230 --> 03:11:47,270
you think is the best?

5535
03:11:48,850 --> 03:11:51,870
Well, I like the the grower champagnes.

5536
03:11:52,350 --> 03:11:55,630
So I would go with the R.M.

5537
03:11:56,430 --> 03:11:59,230
because it's cheaper, generally cheaper.

5538
03:11:59,310 --> 03:12:01,610
I mean, you can get the superstar products

5539
03:12:01,610 --> 03:12:03,570
are usually very expensive.

5540
03:12:03,870 --> 03:12:06,210
But R.M. should be cheaper.

5541
03:12:06,430 --> 03:12:07,070
Should they should be?

5542
03:12:07,130 --> 03:12:08,130
I've seen them as cheap.

5543
03:12:08,130 --> 03:12:10,690
You can get 30 dollars champagne with R

5544
03:12:10,690 --> 03:12:11,890
.M. as you get to go to the

5545
03:12:11,890 --> 03:12:12,690
right event.

5546
03:12:12,790 --> 03:12:15,230
And I would say this is a very

5547
03:12:15,230 --> 03:12:17,410
valuable tip for those of you who stayed

5548
03:12:17,410 --> 03:12:18,550
all the way through the program.

5549
03:12:18,770 --> 03:12:19,210
Congratulations.

5550
03:12:19,670 --> 03:12:20,690
You have been informed.

5551
03:12:21,110 --> 03:12:22,970
Get informed at tip of the day dot

5552
03:12:22,970 --> 03:12:23,370
net.

5553
03:12:30,370 --> 03:12:32,170
And sometimes at all.

5554
03:12:32,790 --> 03:12:33,770
Created by Dana Brunetti.

5555
03:12:35,430 --> 03:12:36,670
I love those tips, John.

5556
03:12:36,670 --> 03:12:38,090
Are you going to do the knife soon?

5557
03:12:38,370 --> 03:12:39,690
People want the knives coming.

5558
03:12:40,050 --> 03:12:41,690
The knives are harder than you think.

5559
03:12:41,790 --> 03:12:43,490
No, I'm but I'm ready.

5560
03:12:43,630 --> 03:12:44,350
I'm ready to buy.

5561
03:12:44,750 --> 03:12:46,130
I want a good knife.

5562
03:12:46,250 --> 03:12:47,970
OK, next tip of the day will be

5563
03:12:47,970 --> 03:12:49,430
the knife is coming.

5564
03:12:50,610 --> 03:12:53,470
What is coming next on your no agenda

5565
03:12:53,470 --> 03:12:56,610
stream is a walk through the mind.

5566
03:12:56,930 --> 03:12:58,430
I don't even know this show.

5567
03:12:58,550 --> 03:12:59,410
I walk through the mind.

5568
03:12:59,510 --> 03:13:01,630
OK, I'll I'll stay and listen.

5569
03:13:02,570 --> 03:13:05,530
And end of show mixes from MVP, B

5570
03:13:05,530 --> 03:13:09,670
-dubs and the one and only Baron Darino

5571
03:13:09,670 --> 03:13:10,990
of the rock and roll.

5572
03:13:13,690 --> 03:13:15,810
So stay tuned for that, everybody.

5573
03:13:15,930 --> 03:13:17,150
It's going to be fantastic.

5574
03:13:17,290 --> 03:13:19,070
And of course, we will return on Sunday

5575
03:13:19,070 --> 03:13:22,050
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5579
03:13:30,650 --> 03:13:32,190
Apparently in the morning, everybody.

5580
03:13:32,330 --> 03:13:33,310
I'm Adam Curry.

5581
03:13:33,570 --> 03:13:34,830
Yeah, from Northern Silicon Valley.

5582
03:13:34,850 --> 03:13:35,510
I'm John C.

5583
03:13:35,590 --> 03:13:35,970
Dvorak.

5584
03:13:35,970 --> 03:13:37,190
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5585
03:13:37,270 --> 03:13:38,510
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5593
03:13:55,830 --> 03:13:58,810
Listen, only as directed, you will experience excessive

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5607
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5612
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5627
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5628
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No agenda.

5629
03:15:00,050 --> 03:15:01,830
This is where it goes wrong.

5630
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5631
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5634
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No one ever taught these kids that that's.

5635
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No, no, no, no, no,

5636
03:15:44,150 --> 03:15:44,250
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5637
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5638
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5640
03:15:56,550 --> 03:15:56,650
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5641
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5642
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5643
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

5644
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no, no, no, so sweet

5645
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Revolution

5646
03:16:11,350 --> 03:16:21,950
began

5647
03:16:26,610 --> 03:16:31,150
The two voices coming together to question all

5648
03:16:31,150 --> 03:16:41,150
we know Is John mean to Adam

5649
03:16:41,150 --> 03:16:43,390
or is Adam mean to John?

5650
03:16:43,610 --> 03:16:46,550
Don't get caught up in all of this

5651
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as it's just a great big party We

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need to function That don't have corporate sponsors

5653
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unencumbered by overlords and for you that is

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when We need to function We need

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