Unbelievable. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, June 16 2013.
Time for your gizmo nation media assassination Episode Five to
two.
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Yeah, I thought I was wondering if you catch it. Yeah, of
course. That means I'm getting wrote in saying, oh, curry has
been singing over the jingles. I wouldn't give any money. Now he
stopped doing it. But now dimorphic is keeping his
openings too short. Yeah, you suck. Always has to suck. Yeah,
there's always like, No, we got to get a better email. I'm not
gonna read it. But the guy said, I stopped donating because I
don't listen anymore of that. But he said that in like 1000
words, like, okay. Okay,
we're not really asking non listeners. Oh, actually, I would
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No dinner. chat.net. It is, of course, Father's Day, by
presidential proclamation. Presidential Proclamation. You
know, the President had this whole Father's Day spiel for his
little show. And, but I turned it off after the first 15
seconds. I'm like, I get it. Good enough. Of course, you know
how he starts his hobby, as we all know. Hi, everybody. Hi,
everybody. This Sunday is Father's Day. And so I want to
take a moment to talk about the most important job many of us
will ever have. And that's being a dad. Today, we're blessed to
live in a world where technology allows us to connect instantly
with just about anyone on the planet.
Okay, enough said. We know. That's it. So you can spy on us?
I didn't need to listen anymore after that. Like yeah, okay.
Yeah, we got it.
Might have been something in there.
No, there was nothing in there. Now this is whole take the
pledge and be a better dad. And, you know, I didn't have a dad
growing up and neither did I. Yeah, he was never there.
Is he man, busy man.
He was a busy man. He's
a big news. Big news breaking. I just remember this morning. Hold
on
a second. I said ladies, gentlemen, hot news. Breaking
Yes, John C. Dvorak. What are you learning?
Times are tougher Debbie prostitute in western England.
Oh, no. As a private flat with other mature ladies. She does
two or three jobs a day a year ago she was doing eight or nine
hookers in England have to lower their prices are not just
businesses down what? Yeah, this is in The Economist. Well, I
mean, we was on sale
we is that the title of the article?
Okay. It might be a title for the show is Yeah, write it down.
We have long
sex the title is sex doesn't sell
well. Now this is very interesting because you have
long for many years. As long as I've known you always use the
Devorah Coker indicator which says instead it's kind of like a
more it's actually dates to divorce tax law. As we know we
have Moore's law we have divorce tax law is the worst the economy
not only do the hookers get better looking but they get
cheaper but not that they have less gigs
Well, it would seem to me that the Lord the price enough they
would have the same number of gigs which is a supply and
demand. Oh, classic sense. And I think that's where it came from,
by the way. Okay. So
you're what you're saying is the
modern economists don't even buy supply and demand anymore. So I
think that this is your this is where it came from was dryers
right? Okay. Because they are the true free market.
Yeah, well, to a point. Yeah. Well, they're not them. Yeah,
exactly. So anyway, this is of interest is this is an
indicator, you know, supposedly everything's heard in the past.
This reflects the sluggish economy. Overall, consumer
spending at the end of 2012 was almost 4% lower than its 27
peak. And Vivian and independent escort in the South who gets to
write this escort in the south of Trump put out to get her name
in here. Oh, okay. Just supplement her income as a
photographer. He says paying for sex is a luxury. Food is more
important. The mortgage is more important. Petrol is more
important, especially at these prices. Well, so
wait a minute, hold on, hold on, he's
offering discounts out of desperation, as well. So down to
30 bucks
this make Wow, this makes a lot of sense. Because in times of
war, I think that's when indeed, you know, the prostitution
industry really kind of falls apart. Because the soldiers
don't pay for it. They just take it, you know, that occupying
forces, right. So, I think that this is a new line has been
crossed in the UK. That's very sad. It's 30 bucks.
And then your perspective,
that's like two pounds. Wow. So lots of lots of lines being
crossed. John, I think we should just get into it because I've
been doing some research and it's, I get a little irritated
when, when numbers don't add up. You know, me the math wizard
that I am.
Oh, it well, numbers don't add up most of the time. But this
administration and then the government in general, red line
crossed, ladies and gentlemen, red line has been crossed
Stanback red line crossed. Scott, the Obama White House has
for the first time declared that the Syrian regime of Bashar Al
Assad has used chemical weapons to kill opposition fighters. The
US intelligence community says the Syrian regime of Bashar Al
Assad, as I said has used the chemical weapon sarin multiple I
have to say the I didn't notice this when I was clipping it. I
think the little birds singing happily in the background really
adds to the report.
That's hilarious. By the way. I think you said Obama,
did he say Obama? Let me write. I love the birds, which is,
whenever we do a death and devastation report, we just have
little birds tweeting in the background, like the Syrian
regime of Bashar Al Assad has used chemical weapons to kill
opposition fighters. The US intelligence community says the
Syrian regime of Bashar Al Assad, as I said, has used the
chemical weapon sarin multiple times it says in its war against
the Syrian rebels. Now the estimates are between 101 150
People have died. That, by the way, is a 50% discrepancy in the
number. I mean, if we're just going to look at numbers, right,
so so if someone said, Well, this poll could be off by one or
2% That's one thing. Usually I think it's three to 4% these
days when they're polling numbers, but now they're talking
50% could be off by 50%. Illustration said on the plus
side, obviously, this quote crosses clear red lines,
unquote, Red Line ministration announced it was approving
military shipments to the rebels. Now Scott, it's
important to point out, the administration has not described
the quantity or the quality of the military support it will
provide or when it will arrive. But it will say that this
support is designed to help the rebels defend against quote a
repressive regime. One other note no decision has been made
about whether to attempt to impose a no fly zone. That
option though remains on the table.
Okay, so what did they ever bring up quality as as a an
element in quantity or quality so these guys get the gay these
guns they say?
I think the quality means intensity, it would would have
been a better word because the conversation about light weapons
or heavy weapons that's different than quality. And I'd
like to state just just to just for the record, when we're
talking about this evil dictator and this horrible regime, please
make sure you Google the photos of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie
as they are hanging out with the Bashar Al Assad and his wife and
Angelina Jolie actually kissing the first lady of of Syria
because you know, she's also a fashion icon She's grown up in
in the United Kingdom and Western culture. She is very
smokin hot. She was featured in Vogue magazine, which I think
that is that they destroyed every single copy of that. So I
just want you to know that you know, it's kind of you remember
all those pictures of Moammar Qaddafi with everybody hanging
out in front of his tent? Yeah, well, hey, Mama, how you doing
buddy? Nice hat, love the guards sexy they all hanging out going
in checking it out. And then of course he he's an evil dictator,
bad regime now,
regarding the Russians have said this gas thing is bogus. And I
actually
Well, let's look at the administration's own words. This
is what I do for you, which apparently major that's that's
the guy's name. We just heard that on the report. Major.
What's his name? Major General.
Again, Major Tom, I didn't name your kids major. You don't
even make that up. So this is from the deputy national
security adviser for Strategic Communications, Ben Rhodes on
the Syrian chemical weapons use. And he starts off at the
President's direction United says governor has been closely
monitoring the potential use of chemical weapons within Syria.
So this is the report that proves that we need to send web
Have some dubious quality to the Syrians following a deliberative
review. Our intelligence community assesses that the
Assad regime has used chemical weapons including the nerve
agent sarin on a small scale against the opposition multiple
times in the last year. So, okay, that's what we just heard,
our intelligence community has high confidence in that
assessment. Oh, wait a minute, you don't have like dead bodies
to look at. Apparently not given multiple, independent streams of
information. The intelligence community estimates that 100 to
150 people have died from detected chemical weapons
attacks in Syria to date, however, casualty data is likely
incomplete. While the lethality of these attacks will make up
only a small portion of the catastrophic loss of life in
Syria, which now stands at more than 90,000 deaths more on that
number in a minute. The use of chemical weapons violates
international norms crosses clear red lines that have
existed within the international community for decades. We
believe that the Assad regime retains control of these
weapons, we have no reliable corroborative reporting to
indicate that the opposition in Syria has acquired or used
chemical weapons. So far, not really convincing proof that
just saying we've, you know, we got some information. The body
of information used to make this intelligence assessment includes
reporting regarding Syrian officials planning and executing
regime chemical weapons attacks. So I guess they were planning it
therefore it's happened. reporting that includes
descriptions of the time location and means of attack,
and descriptions of physiological symptoms that are
constant consistent with exposure to a chemical weapons
agent. Some open source reports from social media outlets from
Syria and opposition groups are also included in our
intelligence and other media sources consistent with the
information we have obtained regarding chemical weapons use
and exposure. They don't have the frickin pictures what
they're saying. They got nothing. They got tweets.
There's nothing here. They have no they have no proof, John,
it sounds like no proof to me each positive. There's no bunch
of tweets,
just they have such open source social media of what is open. If
it's not if it's an RSS feed, maybe what is an open source
social media feed?
Is not Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Hey, man, I heard that you like
using gas. Yeah, so yeah, okay.
Okay. So now we now Now this, of course, explodes. We've got to
Well, I have to play McCain. Because it was just too funny.
So I applaud the president's decision. And I appreciate it.
But the President knighted states to better understand that
just supplying weapons is not going to change the equation on
the ground at the balance of power. These people, we need
more of the Free Syrian Army need weapons.
This, by the way, is the al Qaeda. He's now saying
basically, essentially, it's al Qaeda, these people on the
ground alkine when they take over the place, you know, McCain
would be the first to say, I don't know how this happened.
This happened. Alright, let's so he wants them to have weapons.
Yes. And heavy weapons, heavy weapons like damn, hey,
Muhammad, this weapons heavy Amman
to counter tanks and aircraft, they need a no fly zone, and
Bashar Assad's air assets have to be taken out and neutralized.
We can do that without risking a single American airplane. We can
how do
we do that? John? Do you know how we do that? Now you are of
course a defense strategy
with some sort of electronic beam Now if
only it were that cool. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's very
obvious do
it by cratering the runways with cruise missiles moving the
Patriot missiles closer to the border and protecting a safe
zone.
I think the guy is jerking off while he says this is totally
out of control he's taught he's like hot Ford we can crater
their runways bases. Oh God hold on a second almost. Oh, yeah.
ICBMs baby.
The Russians are gonna like this a lot. Yeah.
Organize, where they can work where they can coordinate with
the civilian side,
both civilian side what?
The Syrian National Army and they can have a chance of
success.
Alright, now before we I just have to get to a point that I
want to hear all kinds of stuff now the BBC bless their hearts.
Of course they you know, the Cameron immediately hopped on
the honker there with our president when we're in, we're
in. We're there. We're there for you to chop, chop, BP and all
that and we're ready for no problem. This is a BBC report on
the number of deaths now this is very important because just like
the administration, I went and checked on the numbers because I
just don't take these things at face value anymore. Certainly
not from accredited news organizations. What is the
number of deaths? According to you, your sources, John, that
you are what have you been learning about the number of
deaths and 90,000 Dead 90,000, I've heard the number of 90,000.
Plus I've heard as high as 93,000. This seems to be the new
number. Everybody knows that it's a fact
of fighting has long since passed the point where it can
ambiguously be described as civil war. To count the dead,
the UN took names from seven human rights groups and the
Syrian government. Only those deaths with a full name, date
and place were recorded. As the UN says, the figures are
shocking, shocking, 93,000 people are confirmed dead, the
real figure could be as high as 130,000. Out of those that have
been killed, six and a half 1000 were children, and 1700 of those
are under 10. On every single day of the past year, more than
160 people were killed in Syria.
Okay, so they have all these flashy graphics and how many
children are dying, and it's very impressive stuff. And, and
again, I just don't take it at face value. You know, I want to
go read the report. So I go to the UN website, we had this
thing called the internet, which they introduced, which I don't
know if they know that they're publishing these documents,
because I think it's kind of damning. When you think about
it. Now, you already heard in this report, a little bit about
the sources of this number. So you when you watch it, you
think, oh man, like you know, it's 93,000 people that's
horrendous. And you can just see the, the the bodies almost piled
up on top of each other. And that actually, during this
report, they show videos of dead people everywhere. And so you
think, Well, they probably counted that. And it sounded
like they have some sources. So the sources, which they call
databases, on the, in the UN report, turns out to be pretty
much websites, including the Syria shahada website. But the
funniest source, which is very important one for them the
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, you remember this John,
the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? Does that ring a bell?
No. Might Yeah, this is the guy around me. Abdul Rahman, who we
have tracked in the past, who was always for the past two
years has been the go to guy for the BBC. And he's one guy in an
apartment in London. He's the guy that's got the webcam. Yeah,
he's one guy in an apartment in London. This is one of their
main sources for this information. And so I'm going to
read a few paragraphs from the from the United Nations report,
which the BBC is now using to claim 93,000 Dead in Syria. I'm
not saying that people aren't dying. By the way, I'm just want
you to understand how the propaganda works executive
summary. This report presents findings integrated from seven
databases. So a website is now a database built by Syrian human
rights monitors, and one database collected by the Syrian
government. The enumeration is not the complete number of
conflict related killings. The enumeration may be a slight over
count, oh, they're already backpedaling of reported
killings, while at the same time, the enumeration is likely
under counting the true total number to how do they come at
this number, John, they have seven sources. And this whole
this this is a a 40 page document which explains the
numbers. Here it is. The true total number of conflict related
killings includes undocumented killings, which we'd had to
estimate using statistical computer modeling. Are you
fucking kidding me? This number is based on a computer model.
Two, the way they do it is they take one day in 2011, where 160
people were killed that they have documented by one of these
databases, ie websites, then they take another day, where
they have three sources reporting some names. And they
put this whole thing together and the computer then spits out
this statistical number of people who have died. And they
have this 40 page document to back up their statistical
models. This is This is
insane. That's global warming. It's the same thing.
It's the same computers they used to predict. Remember the
ash cloud, the volcanic ash cloud was going to ruin airplane
engines that grounded all European flights for a week and
the skies have never been so clear and blue in history.
Right? This is the Iceland incident. Same thing.
And then when it goes into,
like, well, if somebody must be questioning this, of course, are
you are you
mad? Man, you can't be questioning facts. This is not
good. You can't do this. Now the only guy now this is where it
gets frightening when you have a big new Brzezinski and I agree
with him that now you know something's a mission in
Libya by the British and the French with our backing hasn't
worked out too well. And the French and the British haven't
been very effective. We are now pointed towards something
somewhat similar but more dangerous in Syria, because
Syria is interlocked with Iran, that poses dangers for the
global economy doesn't affect the interests of Japan, and of
China, we should be building an international coalition to
impose some sort of a solution, we should be seriously
negotiating with the Chinese and the Russians involved the
Japanese as well because they're influential. So are the Indians
incidentally, are dependent on energy. That is the kind of
response and might have some effect. Instead, we are
essentially engaging in a mass propaganda, portraying this as a
democratic war was fighting for democracy. Qatar and Saudi
Arabia are fighting for democracy. This is a sectarian
war waged with great mortality by both sides, and I repeat the
93,000 were killed in a civil war. They weren't killed just by
the Syrian regime. There are two sides to that struggle, and
neither one is waging it in a particular tractive fashions.
So he's not being honest either. But at least he's it's clear
that he's left kind of on the outside of this from how someone
has moved ahead of the grand chess game that Brzezinski has
always laid out. And I think it's his Russia connection or
something like that. That he's like, whoa, hold on a second.
You're just doing this big propaganda thing we all know,
it's about pipelines and energy and, and turf, and he's turning
it into the SEC tip sectarian bullcrap. But it's I think it's
of note that for once Brzezinski kind of speaking some truths.
Well, maybe that's what maybe the thing has actually devolved
into an actual sectarian war. Well, I'm sure on the ground
Sure. I mean, close. Those people shooting each other don't
care about up yet.
They have been propagandized into hating each other. If we
have to be careful of everywhere, I'd say.
Yeah, we've already had the clips a couple shows ago where
the, you know, the the Hezbollah's on the one side,
it's damning all the Sunnis calling him worse than Jews.
Good news. The Department of Homeland Security, according to
the Federal Register announces the Secretary of Homeland
Security, Janet Napolitano. Lucy is extending the existing
designation of Syria for Temporary Protected Status.
That's the TPS reports you hear about all the time. TPS means
that if you you basically it's an asylum program for another 18
months, October 1 2013, through March 31 2015, and REG re
designating Syria for TPS for 18 months, effective October 1. So
that would be our date.
October 1, October 1 14,
no 2013. So as of October 1, it'll, then there'll be another
18 months where you can effectively enter the United
States as a Syrian national and be granted asylum status.
Well, we're gonna be seeing a lot of Syrians if they can get
over here.
Yeah, I hope they can. Who wants to be over there? Now? There's
some pretty bad blame. Of course, they won't have to go
through the process. Ms. Mickey has gone through
now and it will be maybe she should get on a boat and come in
through Syria.
It would be easier.
Yeah. And cheaper. Oh,
wow.
Tell me about this.
Let's talk about this. You had your grilling by the government?
Yes. Yes. cross examination. So the cross examinations, did they
ask the eye colors or anything like that? Well, let
me tell you how this goes down. So we had to give us a little
background for people with no background. So as as now my
wife, she has the right to obtain permanent resident status
in the United States of Gitmo nation.
They believe you are married,
I petitioned at first I petition which means I had to show the
documentation.
If they listened to the show. They know this to be true. Well,
yeah, yeah. Well,
it's still they know that's the sort of process so we had to
petition. So in which means I have to say, Hey, she's valid,
we're married, our previous marriage marriages have been
dissolved. You have to prove all that and paperwork and
translations, etc. I have enough funds to support her so she will
not be a burden on the state. So there's that and then after you
go through that whole process, and of course, she had to be
examined medically to see if she was not, you know, if she was
not disease ridden, just dripping with disease. Then of
course, you Okay, it's true. You've done you know that they
wanted to do a vaginal exam on her and she refused. Good. And
they went, Okay. How crazy is that?
As a lot of things. Turns out, they don't care. I don't care.
I think they would just, it was a fishing expedition as far as
I'm concerned. And then, of course, they had to prove that
she had her shots. That's another rigmarole. And if you
can't prove that you've had your shots, then you can go get your
shots again. So we had to go through all that. In the
meantime, she also had to travel for work. So she got Advanced
Parole documentation. So before this interview, we spoke with
our lawyer because you have to have a lawyer I this is where it
went wrong in the first place. I thought I could do it myself.
Stupid citizen.
Yeah, no, you're not playing the game. As if this is a scheme, I
was not
playing the game. So we got our lawyer, Alan, Alan Klein. And,
Alan, this is all Alan does. And he said, Jerry
makes a good living doing he does,
he does fine. And so he, he said, let's talk about the
interview before we move for the day before. So we had, I think,
45 minutes. I said, Okay, here's what's gonna go down, they
they're going to it can be all can go on all kinds of
directions. And what they want to assess is, are the two of you
really married? Is it for true reasons? Or are you just
scamming the government to get this woman a green card? And B,
can you really prove that you can sustain her so she will not
be a burden on the state? And, you know, we went through all
the scenarios of different ways you could go down, he said,
Look, you would probably be in and out five minutes. Could be
anything. So at a certain point, I said, Hey, Alan, when do we
learn to speak Russian? He said, What do you mean? I said, well,
because it's the we're like, in Soviet Russia, you know, pre the
Wall coming down. He says, Are you kidding me? This is 10 times
worse. Tissue, you have no idea what's going on. He says, ever
since we got like these two Sinatra brothers who came in and
blew everything up, it's gotten, it's gotten worse, to clamp down
and everything. He and he and his lawyer saying we have we are
on the downside of the slippery slope is what he said. So he
probably knows more than he's willing to let on. So we are
prepared. Now we are actually, you know, so we're like, you
know, it's like, we're gonna go see the government and, and the
morning of me, he's like, shall I wear this together? That's
great. And then of course, he changes. How about this? I said,
Yeah, that's great. You but I don't want to seem like I'm
trying too hard. And like, okay, so this is the level of
emotional terrorism. That is not
Yeah, no, this is like not this is again, we were reading the
book in the garden of the beasts. This is what you would
might have been like in the 30s. regime? of Hitler.
Yes. And so we and I'm a I'm an American citizen, and I'm
legitimately
and you're worried about what clothes to wear. So you can
impress the Gestapo? Yes. And you don't want it looks like
you're over trying too hard. All these things are very this,
like, why is this happening?
And so you know, we have to print very depressing. But yes,
it is. So we have to bring all the documentation, all the
copies all the certified copies all the translations with the
certification to the translations for birth
certificate, and of course, this everyone has this because she's
from a foreign country, so it can't just be in the foreign
language. Maybe Spanish is okay. I don't know, I'm sure maybe,
maybe not to get it translated, if it's in Spanish. But I think
you even have to do that. And, you know, and it's a
disillusions of previous marriages. And then your 2000
Year 2012 tax return, which I don't have, because, you know, I
always file late. Well, I file for extensions of an extension,
and I have a check, or I paid some money, but then your
2011 2010 you know, and so were we I do this all two days
beforehand. And it's like, the last minute I'm like, you know,
maybe we'll just print out 2009 Just to make sure you know, I
don't know. And of course, it's 60 pages, and then the printer
freaks out and breaks and the headings cleaning and the the
talk of the clock ticking away. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, we're
terrorized, we're just we're totally terrorized, John. And
we're grown people. All right. So we're off to San Antonio. And
you arrive at the building. And there's a private security firm
that has cars that drive an hour and five minutes. Yep, San
Antonio. It's a big building with lots of glass windows to
give the impression of transparency. And the at the
entrance, they have a private security firm, private guards,
who then say, Where's your invitation letter? Which by the
way, we were like half an hour on the road. And I 35 said hey,
do you have the the letter for our appointment? And Nikki's
like It's in here somewhere? And I like I think it's green
because every paper that I saw there was official was green.
She's like looking for green paper. And and you know, it's
you can't find it and you know, it's like I can feel sweat
dripping Oh, crap, do I have to go back and get this thing? Can
we can we get through without it?
Nice and novel about Russia telling you?
And then of course, it wasn't great. I'm an idiot. And we're
both like, okay, all right. Yeah. And we actually had to say
to each other, okay, okay, let's just, let's admit it right here.
We're both really tense about this shit. And so we're all
like, and we're just getting all these others crap for this, but
we recognize it and you know, okay. All right. So we're good.
We're good. We're good. Okay, we're good. We're gonna do this.
We're good. And so we roll up. And we have to first put
everything through the bag scanner. So the X ray very
similar to the in fact that is the same device at the airport.
And, and he's funny it is, uh, where's your appointment letter?
All right, here's the letter. Okay. Immersion, who's in cheek
because they can never pronounce who can Dyk and so there's
always that kind of funny thing. And Mickey's kind of fun the way
Hey, what do you think it is? Like not just these are two old
geezers. I don't think they have too much skin in the game. But
it's like what is in that because I had my my water bottle
my my thermos? You know, metal water bottle? What's in their
water? Okay. It could have I could have had C four in there
for all they know. I mean, it could have been it could be a
pipe bomb. But okay, went through the scanner, no problem.
Then we had to go through the magnetometer which of course
went off because I had my belt on, but I didn't have to take
the shoes off, which is a contradiction. Okay, so we're
sitting there, we're waiting, and we'll be called and then our
our officer comes to get us and takes us upstairs. And now
already, I'm like, hold on a second, no cubicle. But okay,
we're in the office. And the interview starts and this is the
interview where you need to you can be asked separately, the
officer is going to assess whether you two are married or
not. And if you really do belong together, so we have this whole
list we've been prepared. I have I have a briefcase full Mickey
has a briefcase full. And here are the questions which we are
going to send these to our lawyer because they were not on
the list, John? Oh, they weren't none of the questions we were
asked. Were on the list. You ready? Okay. Question number
one. Do you know your wife looks a lot like Charlize Theron.
Question number two. Do you think Michael Jackson really
molested those kids? And question number three, how do
you make money with the podcast? What if we didn't have to show
anything other than a passport? That was it. He knew exactly the
question. He knew exactly who I was. Oh, he had no questions
about any. We've been preparing for four weeks for this
interview early.
The joke's on you. Yes.
And by the way, he was really not having any of my answer
about Michael Jackson. He was like,
was he a show listener? Because he wouldn't. And Michael Jackson
question only would come up.
No, no, it started differently. He said, What is the most
interesting person you have ever interviewed? That was actually
the question before Michael Jackson. And I wouldn't have
brought it up, Mickey said to Michael Jackson. And then and
then he immediately went to so do you think that he really
molested those kids? Or like no. But he wasn't having that
answer. John, this was this was kind of a creepy thing. He's
like, Now wait a minute, when you saw Martin Bashir go in and
interview him and that, don't you think we didn't? Didn't you
wish that you were there? And you could have asked him
different questions like no, I think the guy was just just one
big ball of love. That's all he was, man. I and by the way, he
was acquitted of everything. And I was not, I was not gonna drop
the subject. But he did push that a little bit. Ah, and so at
this, so I'm thinking this true now I now I know it truly is.
The Staci, it truly is like Russia. And its way it works is
if you have standing, ie you're a celebrity and apparently he's
still remembered than you, then you get preferential treatment
by the party.
Did you get him to listen to the no agenda show? That's the most
important. Are you out of your mind?
No way. No, not a chance in hell are we gonna do that? And then
he was, you know, he had his hand on the stamp, you know, to
put in the passport and you know, where he's inking it the
whole time.
And then he's pounding the ink pad out. He's rolling it
and he would think of something to say and then and then he
would wait. And we're like, put the stamp in the passport.
And I was like, God, yeah, very much like this stock.
And he's like, Oh, and of course I'm stupid. I'm so stupid. I say
we had just to make conversation. Just want to,
like,
Oh, my mistake. I know. I know.
I'm so stupid. I can't believe what I said. So Question, what
do you think about the immigration reform? That's, ah,
I can't believe it came out of my mouth. That took 20 minutes
20 minutes of him rolling the ink. And you don't know which
way to go. You like just like, Yeah, ha ha, cuz I don't know if
he's for it or against it or I don't know. And then Mickey said
something about same sex marriage. And I know, I know, I
know, I'm with you. I know. We were like nervous, nervous.
Here's how it works.
We had different ideas now. Just secondary screening for you.
I'm telling you. And then, so then Mickey has to travel, she
has to go back to Amsterdam for a couple of days, at the end of
the month, which is before her actual green card would arrive.
So she says, you know, here's the here's the deal. Here's my
ticket, is anything you do is Oh, no, with the stamp that you
have that I just gave you. You are You can travel. It's as good
as a green card. And then I say, Are you sure? Because you know,
wow. All right. So what do you mean? said, Well, no, my lawyer
said that, you know that you couldn't do this anymore. And
that it had to be requests. He said, Okay, would you like me to
take it out?
So
yeah, that's a public servants.
And I thanked him for his service. I did everything I was
really trying. I'm just like, just let's get on with this. I
just want the paperwork done. And that's what's so sad. That
is exactly what's so sad. Here. I am getting preferential
treatment, because of because of a gig I did 20 years ago. It
should I mean, it shouldn't be that way. But it also shouldn't
be this horrendous, haranguing, and it wasn't like the guy was
not nice. I mean, don't get me wrong. He was a nice guy who was
pleasant. But I could just see this is not a this is not a
process that makes sense to a country that was built on
immigration. You know, these people have lives in their
hands.
And now Yeah, but we're talking about a lily white couple.
Canon Barbie, as some would say.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So for the hair color on the kin.
So anyway, Miss Mickey is now legal. And because we have not
been married for enough time, we will have to go back in two
years to prove that we're still together yet for a checkup. And
I will have to bring out a report
like being on probation and when you're released from prison,
on probation. And I will have to say if I'm happy with Miss
Mickey. At least, that's the story if you know what I mean,
John?
Well, yeah, it's pretty pathetic. But that's just the
way it is. System.
Yeah. Let's, let's thank our producers.
Before we do that, it would be probably better than let me just
say this in advance it probably better if I actually open the
mail. And then logged in
and got the spreadsheet. Is that what you're trying to say? Very
slowly. I mean, I could do a lot.
I mean, we have a little I have a filler that we can deal with.
Oh, you gotta fill out you got. Yeah. We're gonna do much EU
talk because I do kind of an EU clip that is kind of No, no, I
didn't destroy this is kind of distressing. I've come to the
conclusion that Great Britain, although I think we've known
this all along, it's not very much into the EU for all kinds
of different reasons. And I realized that they put Nigel
Farraj they have a bunch of people, there's not just one,
but because the parliament has some guys, including this guy,
Andrew Duff who you could look up. I think they put Nigel
Farraj in it because he's an insulting aihole to the EU
members entertaining. He's very entertaining, but he is not what
you would say is a guy who was sent in to represent the British
as a as a nice people. He was sending obviously, I've been
I've concluded this he was sending it to be who he is. He's
and he's made the most of
it. And arrogant British prick who's right.
Yeah. And then there's then they got the other guy who was the
more thoughtful person. This guy Andrew Duff.
He's also from UKIP I think right from the No no, no, no.
He's a Democrat,
Liberal Democrat. Oh, Lib Dem. Yeah. And so he's in there and
he is a tremendously and I don't I'm not giving this clip just to
ridicule or make fun of the guy. But he is one of the worst
stutterers in the history of Britain, since that King that
they did the movie about
and as a Tourette sufferer. I always feel that they are kind
of my my my cousin stutters are kind of like the low grade
Tourette's? Um, you don't have the cool stuff.
Right? I never thought of it that way. But yeah, but this
poor guy and the thing that's bad is he actually said it in
his nice little speech very, very erudite and all the rest of
the stuttering, but when he started, you'd have to actually
visualize him scrunching up his face and looking like he's
suffering the worst kind of breakdown ever. Can we roll? Yes
Whoa, what I see through the clouds of tear gas is a
democratic EU rules revolt. Clumsy, complex, messy, but also
move moving. In style, it really reminds me of Chicago. Paris in
19.
Are you kidding me? Did you and did you enhance her hand? Not
nothing. Oh,
this is slip. This is so painful. This is.
This is again, I think is the British telling the EU to get
screwed?
Why? Why are they making this poor man speak at all. This
isn't just be a vote. This is
taken from his perspective. Okay, so go up there and suffer.
But on the other hand, this has got to be the cushiest job in
the world. Well, yeah, all expenses paid. You got hookers
in Brussels. I mean, the whole place is just got to be great.
So they and they know,
no taxes,
no taxes. It's it's a it's a gym, and he could go get
treatment. I mean, it's not impossible to solve these
problems. But this is no and this is not but that's not the
worst one you just heard it. He this has not been enhanced at
all believe it.
Because it's 16 is 68. And like the follow through from such
spawn taneous brute revolts. In the end is Turkish.
I want to hear the translated version that they're listening
to on the headphones.
I was thinking about that, too. Because you're always in these
operations. You always have these things that somebody's
trying to translate this is possible the translator can
understand his stutter. That's possibility. No, this guy's been
there for a while. So I'm sure that's been solved. I'll bet
that the translation for this guy speech is fantastic. Because
generally speaking, speaking Americans and British, our
language is so compressed that it's hard to translate it to a
lot of these verbose languages. This guy, if you really listen
to us, the number of words he gets out, when he finally gets
them out, is very slow, which has got to be great
translations. Oh, wow. Did you say that I can imagine some Arab
listening to him not knowing he's stuttering.
Right? Just thinking and they have a weird way of talking,
don't they? And what does it sound like when when you have an
air of who stutters do we? Are there such things that others
would know
they could all be stuttering? Allah
Akbar, Akbar, we would know you're right. I've never you
have no idea. This is astounding.
Democracy is to emerge stronger with political parties that will
be a less sick of frantic of their leadership with a Turkish
Parliament, which is all more pluralistic and with ideologies.
Both secular and red ribbon, religious coup which are less
preoccupying. I believe that Turkey has a great capacity to
become the Oh world's first liberal, eu modern, eu Muslim, a
European country.
I telling you, this is a form of Tourette's, I recommend it I've
never really taken the time to listen to someone stuttering and
it's because I recognize some of the repetitive guttural sounds.
And to me, I didn't I don't have it like that. That bad anymore.
But when I was a kid, it's it's so so connected to it. You know?
It really is I mean, no one really knows what causes it Do
they are what are the theories are But
the one thing we had, we had we had a lot of stories about
stuttering in the Bay Area some years back as a cornerback for
the one of the great quarterbacks ever, for the
Oakland Raiders was a horrible stutter. I mean, this guy is
like erudite compared to this, this guy couldn't get two words
out. And his doctor they put him on feedback therapy. So he had,
you know, are you gonna fine tune the feedback through
headphones, and he could slow himself down to get the theory
with the time that they kept promoting was that the brain is
running faster than the than the voice system in the brain can
deal when and so you're right, it runs ahead and the voice
can't keep up. And so it's, it makes a bunch of noise until the
brain backs up and delivers more information. So I'm gonna move
forward because the brain is going like crazy, supposedly
sounds too simple. But that sounds simple. But this
quarterback was an astonishing, quick. He was quick. I mean,
this guy would hit his nerves were not normal. You know, some
boxers apparently they're wired so they have like, you know,
nanosecond quicker reaction than the you normally get through the
system through the nervous system. And that's how you can
get some guy. But anyway,
well, no. And, you know, I've been laughed at my entire life
with my for my tics and my things and you know, snickered
at and people like, you know, writing notes have been bullied,
bullied, I tell you
what your Tourette's is like, it's not even it's hardly
noticed yet, but you don't know
me. You haven't know me when I just started when I was seven.
And it was a seven year old who was doing pretty violent, you
know? And I would like, go to the bathroom and just my head
was just like, all over the place. I just have to go shake
my head a lot. Yeah, I mean, and I'm doing I'm hearing the
speech. And I'm like, Wow, it sounds a little connected. So I
find it well, it's like 10 more seconds. I find the best thing
to do is not what not the way he's not to throw them out there
before the lines. You know, it's about talking with people about
it. And I don't know. I have no advice. I'm not a doctor. And I
drug him hell doll. I say give that shit to
choice at the events that are now in trend. Thank you. Yeah.
So that was a that was our filler. Right? Okay.
What can we move on? Oh, yeah, no, no. God, let's let's make
some key
wherever the filler. Yeah, please. Anyway, like I said,
though, I think this was a I think the British are sick.
Anyway, hyper word technologies. One of these are executive
producers for show 522 And Hyperloop. technology comes in
with 520 geologic plus 39 cents fantastic. Those are just get
coins. But he's in the 522 Club.
This is the the black Baron of Silicon Valley, like Baron is
back. Jeremy Ross 522, a second member of the 522 Club. Nice.
These are in response to our little emergency newsletter that
we sent out on Saturday we had
we would have zero producers for the show, executive or
associate. And then look at what you know what that proves. The
theory is when you're doing a value for value show and let me
just say for people who are new to this program, we do not have
ads and you can tell why because we'd be off the air we you
wouldn't be on the air with that clip. It wouldn't be it would
not be listening the show at all. For for a number of
reasons. When you do anything creative, if you're if you're a
band, okay? If you're performing in a bar, if you're performing
at the market for all I care, do not say Tips Do not pass around
a tip jar. You are devaluing your product. If you have a
great product and you're delivering value to people's
lives and you ask them why do you think this is valuable? You
will be surprised at how well the system works. That's our
secret show. Don't tell anybody
and much of a secret Yeah. It's been known forever. Sir Dwayne
melon Saul from a Thai guard nice thank you for joining me
with a note he said he sent it
it doesn't he at this point own something he's Oregon's the URL
of Oregon Oregon right okay, got it.
Which means my okay well anyway once again no comment field I
think you can't find the comments for some reason I know
he's clicking on the same box everyone else's well no
computer some people say that it seems like it might be a chrome
thing or like some browsers may not show it i don't know i i
tested all the time and it pops up for me on Chrome. So I don't
know.
htm gentleman sir Duane Earl of Oregon. Here I have a theory
John mentioned that Provigil keeps you awake, but prevents
you from learning. Perhaps broth Blitzer is testing for pro
Visual use when he asks What are you learning? He does that right
he
does is even where are you using it now? What have you learned?
What are you learning?
If they are on Provigil, the answer would be nothing. But I'm
as alert as a mofo
Yes, we we've our report from two shows ago. Provigil keeps
you awake, but you learn nothing, as opposed to Adderall
which makes you learn like crazy.
Right? At least that's what some of
this is. That's it for our no agenda chemical test.
Some of the drug testers out there, Dwayne Deming, 335 Now is
this a bigger notes as Long Day's Journey to be a night
hole? Especially here in Alaska.
Do we have a nightie? No, we don't no, no. Okay.
No, no, no. It'd be a black night if we missed him. Jason
Doolin 330 in lost wages Nevada 333 33. Short time Boehner first
time donor please de douche. Only been listening since
Christmas. I finally decided to donate because Adam no longer
begs like a bleeding twat. His whining voice has been a problem
this spring. Really? When it was this? I don't know and I beg
like oh we had we had a bad was in February or when Mary had
that bad. Really bad you were you were upset. Yeah, I think
it's wasted time ago maybe
it was broke? Would that have something to do with it? To be
please give a Karma shout to my walrus buddy buddy Kyle Rogers
in lost wages. He is the worst golfer ever. I hope my lessons
to help him this is a very very Jason is a very floridly
aggressive person here. Please work the elites with the
Constitution give all the slaves around the world karma shout out
so give them a deep ocean douching and a karma and then we
can do a whooping later that was told Jason slim.
bad deed do you've got karma?
Large man, yeah. Be Largan
No. I wonder what that was like in cool in school. Oh, really?
Long argument. It's got to be larger than Legion large man. I
like large
man.
I like large man who's in Taiwan.
He will be the night of the large man.
Be in Taiwan is where he is. I've been listening since 2009.
This shows a big part of my life. And I liked the U Visa in
Taiwan. I think it's great. You should get other Taiwanese to
listen that many speak English. I almost donated two years ago
when Adam went through a phase where he would sing along to
every jingle. But he's the one that we talked about earlier
one. Yeah. Which irked me to no end. I was going to be an
executive producer so I could tell him to shut up during the
jingles. But he stopped singing before he actually donated this
time he did it were the show changes. Does this time my beefs
with John. John, please make your opening intros longer.
There have been too many zingers at the end of the opening intro
I don't know what he means by that
means that there's a hole after in the second part. So it's like
I do like coming here from the Travis heights blahdy blahdy
blah. De snacking Snoogle it in the morning. I'm Adam curry. And
then you go Yeah,
I'm John C. Dvorak. Right. And then
I start whenever you're done, I start the Ragman Bushkill. And
this bit here. See there's
no silver Yeah, that's what you mean. Opposite the N Yeah. A
little
hold little lily leave some space. It's unprofessional radio
a pronounced Decatur behavior.
It sounds sloppy. He says. I don't think it's that bad. I
like it. Actually. It's got a lot of
Oh, man. I like it. It's your style. You do what you all the
bones out. There's never too late to start supporting the
best podcast in the universe. And we agree with him on that.
Thank you very much.
Sir Frank, as in Scott. 333. John and Adam, it's been a while
since my last product. Why is this thing like so jammed on
here? I wonder. The spreadsheet Well,
Eric's got a different way of doing it. But I actually kind of
like his way of doing the spreadsheet.
Well he's an Armin Dale Victoria which I prefer the cities to be
over on the left not the
right okay, well, you can you can the cool thing about it. No,
actually change it myself. You can configure it it's
it's amazing technology. believable. It's really great
stuff we developed.
It's been a while since my last producer level. Yep, I just
opened it. I'm not gonna start dicking with it now. He's on
1111 donation thing but his upcoming federal election
Australia is as good a time as any to further support the best
podcast in the universe. Seems like politics and Australia are
heading the same way as the USA incredibly short term thinking
And mainly negative the attitude seems to be if you think we're
bad look at the other side. Great lesson to be teaching
people on how to be a winner not better to donate and to have the
government take my money and waste it, which seems to be the
only thing they can do. Can I get an LG YYG K? Keep up the
fabulous work edits. Keep up the fabulous work it's interesting
as ever listen to this data and I'm getting it keep up the
fabulous work it's entertaining informative and unique regard
Sir Frank as John Stott Armadale Melbourne, Melbourne. So once
you
know I got it. Well, I had not heard the the jingle referred to
as a YG K. Yeah, I know. I like it. I'd like to show LG Why do
you care? You've got karma. That is a great hashtag. LG why? LG?
YYGK. Now I'm stuttering. Thank you very much, Sir Andrew.
Appreciate that.
Catherine Hammond meanwhile, from a summer Washington.
Sir Frank. I'm sorry, Sir Frank. Yeah,
it came with 222 love the show. My son hit me in the mouth with
it about a year ago. Like to clarify how schools work as a
propaganda agent. It all comes from legislation. I'm a high
school teacher for almost 20 years. I'm also a researcher on
many things nefarious. So I naturally looked into why I have
to teach what the district mandates which by the way this
is we can do a whole show on this.
Yeah, this is Washington state. This is this is scholastic
episode, which you've been putting together for three years
now.
I've almost done. In Washington state the curriculum for all
public schools is legislated as it supports the many state test
students must take to gauge their learning which leads to
English math and science tests that are graduation
requirements. Teachers do not decide to make slaves out of
students the legislature does. The legislature also decides on
how many fire drills, lockdown drills earthquake drills and lay
hard drill right what's it lay hard drill, you can look at it
you look check the book and knowledge whether I continue, I
don't know either must endure each they must endure each year.
The Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction led by the
legislature also tells schools that when public health scare
training, bullying, training and sexual harassment training needs
to be taken by teachers. But really it's propaganda training
our new teacher evaluation system the TPE P teacher
principal evaluation project which I believe was instituted
to surpass the teachers union was legislated and can be traced
back to the horrible think tank in DC can't think of it now.
Could be any number of them. The key here is to look at who is
sponsoring the legislation instead of just blaming teachers
or making slaves of our children perhaps we should all dig a
little deeper to see who's really behind it all find the
sponsors and associates of the legislation and all will be
revealed she's calling us to task lay hard
lay heart and and if you do lay hard drill you'll see that it's
the giant voice system goes off and it's we have a late hard
drill you know hearing that John but I did echo yeah I am as they
heart is a type of mudflow or debris flow composed of slurry.
Oh, a slurry of pyroclastic material rocky debris and water.
The material flows down from a volcano typically along a river
valley. So Washington State we'd have what what would cause lay
har there.
Well if you're on the side of a hill or something just a hill
slope collapsing
lay heart is a Japanese word that describes volcanic mud
flows or debris flow
there is also volcanoes in Washington Okay,
there you go. So it's it's muddy waters.
Mount St. Helens,
we learned something.
Well, Catherine we now understand who she was a little
adept to say Catherine, b minus a little
wordy, a little toothy.
And a couple of sentences were could be
and think tank I believe is underlined in my spreadsheet. So
I think there's hyphenated
Well, there's probably one of the mega project $222.22 a
devil's disease fine. It took my dad after nine very difficult
years, no agenda and my diversion of choice for many of
those years and I thank you both.
That's Alzheimer's. Is that the devil's disease? All right.
Well, we hope you stick with it and yeah, sucks.
Yeah, go take a quick look here and see one more Mr. Art Kenda
No, he never sent I don't have a note here from him from William.
No. No. Okay, back down here. Willie Marchand. 222 hours, no
note, and John White $200.02 Since having only been listed
for four months, I was unaware that the feds were already
picking up my Gmail account for after 180 days. Can you
enlighten me on more of this 180 day rule and some Shut up slave?
I'm the Attorney General karma. Dr. Sharkey, sir Dr. Charcot,
sir Dr.
Sharkey keeps asking for that. But I don't actually have a clip
of the Attorney General, saying I'm the attorney general,
because there's not clippable it's like a whole it's like a
whole thing I remember, you know, but I do have, of course,
you've got karma got that for you, sir. Sir. Doc. Thank you.
And then when I send them a note, I like personalize the
response about the 180 day thing and explained it as best I
could. It's essentially a your mails abandoned. Yes. Why you've
abandoned it if you left it on somebody else's server for over
eight days. Yeah, it's like,
it's like leaving a couch out in front of the house after a
certain time. It's just It's every
same thing. Go to pop the change to pop mail, download everything
off those servers, and then keep it on your old computer if you
want to keep it for archive purposes. Just get it out of
there. And hopefully Google will erase it eventually. They
usually do after six months.
At least they do not
get Austin vos. I'll also note from Calgary, Alberta. And by
the way, John White is or Dr. Sharkey is in Jackson,
Tennessee. Can't O'Rourke, Frostburg Maryland just checking
in some value for value Adam and John in last couple of weeks
have been some of the best shows and it'd be a crime not to
donate to the best podcast in the universe. I also believe it
takes me to the Baron level if my accounting is correct, he's
got all the numbers so he's not going to be the Baron of the
Potomac Highlander. Okay,
hold on. I didn't see this is not in the notes. I know Eric is
catching up on everything but I need to have these changes.
title changes because they they do go into the shownotes so it's
sir
that server can't
sir can't right sir can't Oh, I just got it. I want this is
important
area of the Potomac Highlands
Baron of the Tomek. Hi, Lance. Great, fantastic. Good work.
Good work. Our map is filling out nicely for the apocalypse.
And that'll be our executive producers and Associate
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there's too many for me to even handout. But now there's a
podcast version when this is I'm very excited about this for a
number of reasons. And it's in iTunes so you can find it there.
So essentially all these little clips all of these super zingers
all these great ones these 32nd One minute, minute and a half
things that really catches people's attention where they go
Yeah, I think you should listen to this show. I've seen it work.
This is now a podcast. The best thing about if you go into
iTunes, and you look for the podcast, no agenda CD, he has
taken the NPR artwork and use that. So instead of the little
boxes, John the NPR it's like an a blue, a white and a red box.
So that says ITM instead of NPR and then the huge. If you if you
look at all the NPR podcasts, it looks just like an NPR podcast.
I don't know how he got away. Wait
until the lawyers come a knockin and we say I don't know nothing
to do with it. I had nothing but they'll never find him.
iTunes. Well, you know we have friends over there at the iTunes
store so I'm sure that they went Oh, geez. Look at this. Did you
see it? No, no, I didn't say it was crazy. No agenda producers
again. I don't know what's going on. devorah.org/and A one more
thing. I think there's still a few left. He needs to he has a
very limited edition of think it was only doing 200 Eric the
shill who was of course helping out the not not only with the,
with all of the producer tracking now. but also with the
with the 33 bags, and he has no agenda nation.com He's got this
handmade Constitution, that people who are really into it
like me, I'm probably I'm probably going to order one.
Just just because I don't know, it's it's so kooky. It's kind of
like it. Does he make these in the shed in the back, John with
like leather and woodworking tools and stuff? Is he like
hammering these together himself?
I have to ask him. I know, it's a very elaborate product, right.
So, but anyway, I wanted to plug what he's doing there, because I
think it's pretty cool. And he's helping us out. And believe me
not getting rich off and doing this stuff. And of course, you
can always go out there and help us by propagating this. We go
out. We hit people in the mouth
yeah, yay. All righty. Okay, so I have a bunch of directions. We
can go today with my clips. I've got some stuff on the Snowden
and it being smeared, which is predictable.
Hmm. I have I have a thought on all that on the Snowden stuff.
Okay, good. Let me play these clips. Yeah, do that and
whatnot. But first, let me get a little background. I know,
there's been a couple of whistleblowers in the past. And
from the NSA, and one of them was a 40 year veteran, what was
a 30 year veteran, we heard speeches from the William Binney
guy who gave the speech and he said, never talked to the FBI.
And he went he says, he did nothing wrong. I'm gonna
reiterate what he said. He did nothing wrong. He went through
all the whistleblower channels followed the book. And they
tried to they tried to put him in jail for life or they call
him a traitor. Yeah. Yeah. J Kirk Wiebe was another guy I
don't have any clips from but I heard him recently. He was
another guy who found that the he apparently bumped heads with
Hayden in hate.
He blew the whistle on torture. Yeah.
Yeah, waterboarding specifically. And he followed he
did the same thing with through all the channels, oh, you know,
let everything go the certain way and all the rest. And you
know, and then they tried to arrest him and throw him in jail
for the rest of his life and call him a trainer. And he was
on a talk show recently and I was listening to him it was a
day it was a during the day on the radio driving. And this
guy's on and he says in jail
How could it be on the radio? Isn't he
he got off out. Oh, okay. They're all out Oh, but can't
get jobs and they can't work for the agency and they still bitch
and moan about the fact that they were right about one thing
or another right which is illegal activities where they
saw
women that's almost like doing a podcast.
Yes, we're doing the same thing. So we're so we B says well one
of the things you're going to watch her first thing they're
gonna do is they're going to they're going to falsely accuse
them of everything. They're going to call them a trainer and
then they're going to smear him he's just watching they'll
you'll see all these things. So I've been listening carefully to
see when the smearing is going to begin because I think you
know smearing people is and
let me say retaining let me say right off the top I feel that
having a hot girlfriend who's a pole stripper that's not
smearing that's like that's up in the guy well That to me is
like slam dunk go Snowden
well yeah but that's not where the public is getting the public
does public is gonna get hearing here are the two guys that run
they're one of the committee's he's to do it these guys are bad
one of them is the hills is named Mike Rogers is terrible
person is the Intelligence Committee Chairman and then the
of the Senate and then the this horrible guy or Ralston Berger
Rupani group Ruppersberger, Democrat from Maryland who was
just just an a hole, and here they are. Here's now here's how
they're gonna smear the guy. Let the smears begin clip. Okay,
here we go.
Pension. There is a long list of questions. We
have to get out. This is which hearing Exactly? This was
what this was the closed hearing that you we don't know anything
about. But these guys came out afterwards. And they started
back in about wrapping right.
Yeah, this was where Admiral? Admiral Major General, Karl
Alexander spoke confidentially with the with the senators.
Correct.
I guess I didn't say much about the thing that but this is just
a smear.
Okay. But this is not the closed hearing.
This is no no, this is these guys talking to a
press time. Oh, okay. Okay, gotta
get answered about does he have a relationship with a foreign
government and there's there more to this story? I think
there's questions that have not been answered on that. We're
also looking at internal controls to make sure that if
something was missed here, how we make sure that something
doesn't get missed in the future. So we using this as an
opportunity to make sure that we're better prepared to stop
something like this in the future, even though we've made
big strides in this kind of thing. But this is a incredibly
damaging and be eyes. There should be no notion in anyone's
mind that this person is a traitor to the United States of
America. And he shouldn't be punished with by the full
extent.
And let me say something more about Snowden. Snowden is some
people are saying that he's a hero. He's broken the law. We
have the United States for whistleblowers. And for people
that think there's an injustice being done all he had to do is
raise his hand to go go to the bathroom. If authorities the
whistleblower law, he is protected.
Hey, it's not protected. definian weird we'd be they're
not protected. This guy's this. There's rumors, Berger is a
total douchebag for saying this. He knows what happened to these
other guys who went through channels, they got screwed. And
so this guy is a you got to play the douchebag thing when this
Ruppersberger of course,
a country that's taking cyber attacks every single day taking
billions of dollars worth of American business, right I met
at
Stop the presses. You mean those Chinese are stealing from us?
Them's fighting words,
data. And and yet there are people out there that are saying
that he is a hero. He's not a hero, based on the evidence that
I have. He needs to be held accountable, just like everybody
in the United States needs to be held accountable for their
actions, and they will go through the proper process. But
okay, John, let's let's let's just do a quick before we finish
this clip, just so we understand we've got to put some context to
it. You're a whistleblower. Now, what are you supposed to do?
Go through channels and No, no rolls of rules?
Raise your hand?
Oh, raise your hand. Hello, sorry.
And we hope that Hong Kong and China will work with us to bring
back someone who has broken the law and could put us at great
risk and lives the United States with our allies at great risk.
And I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, I hope that we don't
decide that our national security interests gonna be
termined by a high school dropout who had whole series of
troubles and employment troubles. We better ask
questions about who he is and what his motives were fully, and
what access he had to information. Before we draw the
conclusion that this guy was doing something positive.
Douchebag
this guy had school problems. His school problem was he quit
high school to join the special force to join the armed forces,
because he felt that he needed to serve his country. That was
his school. Probably I do want to I don't know what is
employment problems. I
do need to say one thing about the JSOC or whatever, because I
got a note. From this, it pertains to what you just said,
Adam, I'm one of those listeners you love someone who was on the
inside who saw the light I was with the J sock with the 75th
Ranger Regiment worked as a security contractor in Iraq and
was a contractor teaching the military how to protect
themselves from brown people attacking subs and ships.
Snowden was not special forces. The 18x program was created
after 911 to allow anyone off the street to attempt to make it
into special force it into a special forces unit. As long as
you pass the ASV A B test with a high enough score. You get a
chance to try he was probably an E one private on his first
training jump when he busted his legs really bad and that was
medically discharged the kid. This kid isn't what this is when
we're talking about him going to your theory to whack Julian
Assange. He said this is not what he's trying. He's not
trying to whack Julian Assange. But anyway, yeah, no, he's still
working. But this is why we're the best podcast in the
universe. Because we have people who like yeah, write us this
stuff. Alright, sorry. You continue.
Anyway, so that so we go from there. And there's you know, the
given the smear, and that's fine. He's a lousy kid. He's a
piece of crap. He's a traitor and all the rest of it. So we
got we got that out of the way, meanwhile. And when we get
beaten up by China's gonna be this guy's fault. Of course.
Now, we looked at four slides. And I've got some thoughts on
this because I was wondering, exactly net Nadler, this, the
congressman from Manhattan. He's a Manhattan guy. And he by the
way, he looks a little bit and talks a little bit like George
Costanza, which is a little bit disturbing. But he's got he is
asking hard questions because Muller came up for a big meeting
of the FBI oversight committee from the Congress. Which one of
the subcommittee's yeah I think he did pretty good.
It was that was a fun you didn't hear enough of
it then because he got rocked by a number of people but this one
here he avoided answering this question he in fact, the
obfuscated the answer even some other thing and in the answer
here, by the way, I think there was something important to note,
but this is the Nadler number one. I'm going to play two clips
from Nadler and and In the they're both great questions but
play the first one, which is the process. No, no demonstrate play
the second one Nadler to this is the one that directly relates to
what we just heard in so far as what we thought to you got those
four slides? What's on there? That's such a big deal. He asks,
we've heard from Director DNI Clapper of the terrible horrible
damage national security done by what's his name Snowden. By
releasing this information, I'd like you to comment and I don't
understand how national security was breached. We knew publicly
from 2006, at least from a reporting in the USA Today on
May 11 2006. About the basically the existence of a massive NSA
database of metadata of metadata from domestic phone calls. That
was reported back then, we debated it in this committee and
on the floor of the House, in connection with reauthorization,
I believe, in 2012. And in 2008, I've been at least several
times. So that was known publicly. The only thing that
was not known, as far as I can tell that was revealed was the
specifics of that court order, which tell us nothing other than
what was already public. Plus, you can have it for whatever
length of time it was, and even the stuff about the section 702.
We debated that at length, and the FISA Amendments Act debate a
couple years ago. So that was pretty known. The only thing
that may not have been known as the exact technical
capabilities, but my assumption and tell me why you think this
is not correct. Is that any intelligent any terrorist that
would be terrorists with half a brain in his head? would assume
this is the question everybody's asking themselves who has half
of brain themselves?
Well, electronic communications are vulnerable and
Achmed. You mean that that tapping his emails? Nah,
maybe, and maybe a subject to interception? And how does what?
What's his name just released? Add to that assumption for
change that assumption?
Well, let me address the last point first, because I often
hear it that any terrorist who has a brain would figure it out
the fact of matter is, are terrorists and or terrorists?
And I can speak generally, but I cannot
wait, let's write this down. I want to make sure I got that.
John, did you say there are terrorists? And then there are
terrorists?
Yes, there are terrorists. And then there are terrorists.
Okay, I want to make sure we're talking about the right
terrorists yelling
a lot. The fact of the matter is are terrorists and their
terrorists. And I can speak generally, but I cannot go into
some of the more details as to specific harm to national
security. But I can tell you every time we have leaked like
this, if you follow it up, and you look at the intelligence
afterwards, there are persons who are out there who follow
this very, very, very, very closely. And they are there ways
around. One of the great vulnerabilities that terrorists
understand is their communications. And they are
consistently looking for ways to have secure communications. And
any tidbit of information comes out in terms of our capabilities
and our programs. And like they are immediately finding ways
around it. And if we lose, as we know, one of my problems is that
we're going to lose because we've got chat, voice, a number
of other things lose our our ability to get their
communications, we are going to be exceptionally vulnerable.
Are you going to I think you're coming to the same conclusion I
am about what this what is really going on here?
Well, I'm not going to get I'm sure you're not coming to the
same conclusion. Because I listened to this clip for one
thing, I think is a good question. What is so bad about
those four slides? And everyone gets so worked up about? So I
figured there's so I'm thinking I'm looking back on this saying
there's got to be something in those four slides, some piece of
information was completely unknown and caught everyone by
surprise, that wouldn't have been known if it wasn't for the
release of these slides. And I'm thinking what is the big
surprise in there? And I knew he gave it away with the very end
of his thing there where he says, he says he uses the words,
chat voice. He said that as soon as I said, I said that. What's
the big surprise those slides? PAL talk? Who knew that Powell
talk or whatever that one service is that no one uses?
Right, right. Is it was the giveaway because that's probably
because there's no other reason for that being on there. Google,
Yahoo, Microsoft, Powell talk or whatever way. Powell talk. Yeah.
And I am convinced that this was the that was the one little
tidbit because I think that Tara was a big on pal talk.
Well, Skype is also included in there that was
expected. I would expect to see Skype. I would expect everything
on there. Nothing surprised me except pal. Okay,
but I mean, all right. Can I can I take this ball for a second?
Don't go okay.
I'm seeing it a little different. I'm looking at the
numbers last night. By the way, I had that we had there was
another dinner now this not normally I don't Do I don't go
out and party on school nights. So I worked all day yesterday
from like, one in the afternoon until the dinner. And now this,
of course, is a dinner here in Austin. So you can imagine, and
we'll talk about some of the subjects from that dinner later.
That's very important. But even if you look at the numbers at
the statistics, what is happening here is this is being
used this and I think there was a setup involved and I think I
can point to it. This is being used to show two things, one,
that these are important programs that send better
remember John Wood, this is the no agenda show. You and I are
frickin smart. And our producers, our listeners are
smart and they see through it. But most people will listen to
here's Kearney spokes whole Kearney, when he's being asked
about two things one about the programs which of course have
protected us saved us from dozens, dozens of attacks, and
how whistleblowers are bad. So I think what is taking place here,
if you look at the polls, 61% of Americans thinks they think that
these programs are good, because they are buying into the name of
trading a little bit of your privacy for your security.
That's what this is about. And I think I can prove it was a
setup. But first, let's listen to the true talking points
coming from the horse's mouth himself, so to speak.
Representative Peter King has said that he believes that Glenn
Greenwald should be prosecuted. For his leaks. Does the
President share that view? First of all, and secondly,
it's something I wanted to mention in one of the shows
previously, because it came up in one of the clips, and I'm
gonna mention it now. So we can listen to this clip in this
context. Where is wanton publishing? Remember that one?
But they're going to come? Oh, it's coming. It's come on in
publishing. Yeah,
it's coming. It's coming. And that will be part of podcasting.
If you just willing to like I just read an email from someone
who used to be joined by a special operations for Lawnton
publishing, I can be arrested for that.
Boehner today said that he surprised the White House has
not spoken out more forcefully in defense of the program, and
explaining more forcefully why it's necessary
to just react now. And this, of course, is not at all a setup
question. Do you think do you think these are these are
scripts running in any way? John McLeod.
She used to be in the girls softball team. Oh, versity.
But I think you heard the President speak about his views
on the program and then necessity the programs to
include necessity,
John necessity of the programs in here and
the necessity to have programs in place in order to protect our
national security and protect the
national security who, by the way, that's a weird thing to
say. We have national security now we've got to protect the
security.
Thank you heard. The President made clear that he believes that
the pin in the the trade offs that we have to make to pursue
our security and protect our privacy. We have found through
the system, we have the right balance balance is the right.
But he understands that others may have a different opinion and
that the debate about that is an important one.
It's an important debate. It's a debate.
On the issue itself of the necessity of these programs. The
President agrees with necessity, again, General Alexander, the
head of the NSA, who spoke yesterday, on Capitol Hill,
about the programs under sections 215 and 702.
Now remember, we have for years we've been running section two
fifteen.org. You remember when the Patriot Act got re re upped,
we opened the website, section 215 dot org, this is how long
we've been on this stuff,
and how they have helped for dozens of attacks.
In fact, I just renewed the website. There's the dust,
and he does me two examples that have been declassified. And I
think it's important
now it's important pay attention hypermesh in them as
well. There was a plot to attack the New York City subways
now. They omit a couple of important pieces of information
about these two attacks. The first one is this New York City
subways early September of 2009. And do you remember this
particular tactic because most people don't really take the
time guys. This was the guy they nailed Him because they had
security footage of him getting
just a guy at the beauty shop. Yeah. Phony footage of him was
loading up. Black guy. Remember the peroxide?
Yes. Do you remember we were like like Laughing it this story
was so obviously fake. And we were like, Why did this? You
recall all this? Like, why did it happen? He was from Colorado
and he drove to New York. And that
thing was just filled with holes
filled with holes. This thing was
monitoring the activities of al Qaeda terrorists and Pakistan.
Now that's different, by the way, if you're listening to
some, some brown people in Pakistan, okay, you know, that's
what you do. You kill them anyway. So that's fine. That's
fine. The
NSA noted contact from an individual in the US that the
FBI subsequently identified as Colorado based, Najibullah Zazi.
Hey, everybody, my name is Colorado based magic bullet by
bullet zazzy. I like beauty products, the
US intelligence community, including the FBI and NSA worked
in concert to determine his relationship with al Qaeda.
I love how he reads from his points here. This is just he's
so smooth, he just slickly goes into it. Then he goes into the
David Headley thing. So I don't want to play the rest of that
now. This is this is the true these are the true talking
points. So it is necessity, these necessary programs, it
isn't a necessity, the balance. It's the right balance has been
struck between giving up a little bit of our privacy and
our freedoms for some security. Let's go to the McLaughlin group
which is you know, I'd say another highly scripted we know
it's highly scripted programming
from producers that have worked there that everything is
scripted is a scripted program
more to Zuckerman. He lays out the talking points you're going
to hear everywhere now. And it's I mean, it's it is disgusting. I
don't feel that my privacy has been violated. Okay, well, I
would feel that my privacy been violated. If I was in a subway
and the goddamn thing and the thing blew up. Okay. I have to
say safety rules.
Well, yeah. You want to change the whole mood of this country
have a couple of terrorist attacks that go off without the
authority. Yeah, there
you go. By the way, this is the same guy who lost most of these
rich, rich rich person lost most of his wealth and most of his
friends wealth. Because he was caught up and he was a big buddy
of made a Bernie Madoff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's so
you were dealing with a guy who was judgment issues, right.
But do you hear everyone laughing? Oh, yeah. No. gray
areas. Okay, now?
Yeah, no, this is very sickening. Let
us listen just for a moment because of course, you know, if
any country is a little ahead of us, in the New World Order, shut
up slaves. That would be our very own Gitmo nation east,
known as the United Kingdom, where it's gotten so bad now the
hookers can't even get a 30 $30 gig. So Mr. Haig, what's his
name? Horatio Haig, the foreign the foreign secretary Baldy, the
baldy he went on the BBC and he actually said the words that you
do not want to hear anyone in government ever say that
allegiance
gathering in this country by the United Kingdom is governed by a
very strong legal framework, so that we got the balance right
between the liberties and privacy of people and the
security of the country. Did you know about prison there? Well, I
don't I can't ever confirm or deny in public, what Britain
knows about and what Britain does, for the obvious reasons.
Once we start doing that, on this or anything else, then the
terrorists we're trying to defeat the foreign intelligence
agencies we are competing with,
just remember now, this is same talking points here. It's all
part of the same system, but he takes it one step further.
Build up the picture of what we do. The net effect is if you are
a law abiding citizen of this country, going about your
business and your personal life, you have nothing to fear.
There you go. If you are a law abiding citizen of this country,
and you're going about your business, you have nothing to
fear. However, have you like to download weird porn or if you're
cheating on your wife or your husband of maybe you're
cheating, or you're driving too fast, or you could be breaking
the law in many ways, we will come down on you with the wrath
of God and IT shop your fucking balls off.
Nothing to fear about the British state or intelligence
agent, nothing at all, about the British state or the
intelligence, listening to your the contents of your phone call.
I'm sorry, I almost flubbed it. They're not listening to the
phone. I mean, the content of your phone calls
or anything like that, indeed, you'll never be aware of all the
things those agencies are doing. To stop your identity being
stolen, protecting you
haven't done a very good job of that even to stop
a terrorist blowing you up.
To be blown up by terrorists. We have thought that many times,
but if you are a would be terrorists, then we're going to
fuck you up. Or the center of a criminal network or a foreign
intelligence agency trying to spy on Britain. You You should
be worried because that is what we work on. It makes you throw
me while by the way, so I lost. So I had $600 stolen from my
mechanics bank account. Oh, through a ring, apparently
really what it is. Yeah, no, that's the report. I think I've
probably
read through your debit card. Yeah. Then they give that back
to you. We've had that happen so many times.
Yeah, they give it back to you. Right. Okay. You do, but it's
like a process. And I say, Yeah, this is this is an organized
crime ring. And here's what I don't know. We have Mimi has her
theories. And I have my theories are where the card numbers were
first of all,
it's the kids. The kids are doing this. They're the year
kids. I mean, the kids are always responsible.
I kids don't even know I have a card. Anyway. So the thing was
that we all took place unless my kids are living in Hemet,
California. Awesome.
I've had this has been the same place. It's happened to us. Yes,
yes, areas a little area south of Bakersfield in the middle of
nowhere. And there's obviously a ring and they got a card
printing machine up because these cards are obviously being
run through stuff because it goes to gas stations and their
numbers, they take money out there. So they print the card,
they get the number they print a card, they put your name on it
or whatever. And then they use it to get into gas stations,
Walmart six times in a row $30 $30. During the day, nobody
catches it, I was under the impression you'd catch these
things based on the fact that these guys are buying tanks and
tanks and tanks of gas, and sneakers and sneakers. But they
didn't get the sneakers. But yeah, too much gas was Walmart
crap, which could have been the sneakers. And anyway, so this
whole thing is now so weird. Listen to this guy go on and on
and on about all this, oh, we can do this. We can do that.
Where why can't they stop these little simple criminal rings
that are all over the place using the same technology? They
can't. This is like this is an incompetent bunch of Boneheads.
And these guys who were the Western whistleblowers, by the
way for for the NSA some time back, both had better solutions
to problems that work to mechanisms that weren't working.
This is just a bunch of Nazis trying to listen in on our
calls. Right? Well,
let me let me make my final this is becoming a
blackmail state. They don't care about crime or terrorism. They
care about blackmail, they care about stock, Tim Yes, that's
what you use this information.
And get and this and I believe John, and I'm about to roll out
the what I think is proof or evidence that this particular
case, which and I think we're all in agreement, it's like
whatever, like, like everyone on this show, everyone who listens
to this show knows it's been going on forever. We've been.
And I would like to remind people, we've been talking about
the second street at&t building almost since the inception of
the no agenda, podcast, and the whistleblower and secret wind or
trade wind or smelly wind or whatever the program was called
the siphoning off the splitting off of the fiber optics. So you
don't please don't send me another link to security. Now,
we know this. We've been we know how this has been working
forever. This is not a big surprise has been in the New
York Times has been published everywhere since 2003. But what
is happening here is the mood is being changed. And we are being
told as citizens, we are being told this is necessary to have
this blackmail mechanism in place so that we can have total
control over people. And I totally agree with you, John.
And here's how I'm going to take it for you. Glenn Greenwald was
set up for this. He was set up. And this is what everyone is
missing. First of all, let's take a look at who got this who
didn't get this story. New York Times. Why didn't Snowden go to
the New York Times? Why did he only go to the post? And did he
go to the Guardian? Well, you know what he didn't. He went to
Poydras. The woman who did the documentary, she brought the
story to Glenn Greenwald. And she brought the story to the
post. And there's a whole piece in The New York Times right now
about this, why they're saying well, you know, it's okay, just
as long as the information gets out, now, they would they didn't
want to be a part of this. And they weren't because they are
the ones that are actually helping to propagate. The meme
of you need this and oh, we should arrest the whistleblower.
And this came up in 2000. Last year, at the hope conference,
where Binney this other whistleblower was asked a
question and listen to this question. This is a year ago.
An absolutely incredible presentation and everything
you've done in February of 2011, a group of hacktivist associated
with Anonymous cracked into intelligence contractor HV Gary
servers, and among the things they found were PowerPoint
presentations describing how HB Gary is along with other
intelligence contractors. Palantir
you heard the name Palantir Here this is 2011 proposed to
silence progressive voices like Glenn Greenwald the salon.com
Calm
Oh, okay. There it is anonymous, the hacktivist group, ie CIA
discovered some documents at HB Geary, this, this incredible
defense contractor who troll social media, how they were
going to discredit Glenn Greenwald and other voices,
including, of course, the Guardian and anyone else. So
Glenn Greenwald, if you have been following John, which I
think you have has been defending his reporting. He is
He is being smeared, and he's got to cop a cup to it pretty
soon, or he's going to go down in flames. He's going to be he
and the guardian. They're going they should know, he doesn't
see he doesn't see it. No, I watched him. He doesn't watch my
show after show defending himself. Yeah. And it doesn't
appear to me that he sees this. But this is great, by the way,
because this also explains Peter King coming out of the blue and
saying, Oh, he should be arrested before what it you
know, this is punishing, wanton publishing
wanton publishing. And so this was taking place in 2011. He was
targeted. And they took this woman who they first gave half a
million dollars to from the what was it? The witch Foundation was
a John. The She's a fellow. Yeah. Which is, you know, and
they're a media. They basically fund media.
And, by the way, you do a little over thing you're overlooking
here, which, which was in this report you've got is that they
transferred him from salon to keep salon out of the out of the
mess yes to the Guardian, because the Guardian was a
better target.
Well, yeah, but also look who's behind the salon salon, is the
guys who are Adobe, which is the MSA. So that's,
that's a little point you might want to add to your list. Yes,
I like that. I like that a lot. So So Glen, he is a schmuck.
He's a total schmuck and this end, and so now we kind of get
to last night. Oh, my God, I don't know if I can do it right
now. I think we may we shouldn't. Maybe we should.
Maybe we should wait for second half because it's like a whole
I'll need some energy.
Well, let me take a little bit, take a little bit of the
pressure off by adding a couple clips. Okay. There's one thing
about this, and this is kind of backing up a little bit, but
it's not completely. And this will be Mike Rogers again, the
guy who's smearing sand as Sandberg, Snowden. And, and
Nadler again, who brought up something that was was then
rolled out and seen at some other places where they
deconstructed what Nadler had to ask or what was said, but I just
want to play the Mike Rogers on numbers. Because I want to
remind people that this is the this meme is such bull crap that
I wanted to, I want to point it out by playing this play. They
describe it. They collect business records in which is
something called metadata, which is only phone number two phone
number. Again, no names attached. It doesn't say Mike
Rogers called Dutch. Ruppersberger doesn't know
addresses. The only closest thing you might get is a region
of the country based on an area code. That's the closest you
would get. And so some notion and here's the thing, if you're
going to connect the dots in anything like the Boston
bombing, to find out if there are other co conspirators, if
you're going to connect the dots on a 911 style event, or and
hopefully prevent a 911 style event. You have to have dots in
the box in order to connect
the dots in the box, you got to have dots in the box.
Now here's here's what here's what, I loved that I left it
longer because that dots in the box was irresistible. Yeah.
Anyway. Okay, here's the deal. Oh, we don't watch all we have
is your role. We have these vague phone numbers. Are you
kidding me? You can do reverse searches on all these phone
numbers on the internet. This is a phone number that's in a
directory. This phone number is connected to you. It's your
number is like your social security number. I have a phone
number for my cell phone. I have a home phone number. When
somebody says Oh, it's just a number. It's a vague number.
Yeah, it's my number. Yes. Relate me it's not full Chris is
not. It's not Oh, it's not an anonymous number. It's a real
number. And they're playing it up as though Oh, it's just a
bunch of numbers. It doesn't mean anything. Just numbers.
It's just metadata numbers. The number is you choose your a
number. Well, when everyone buys into this mess, I don't know
it's just a number. John, hold on one second. Change to save
Oh, I don't know if it's catchy enough.
Good. These are good. Couple more. Needs a couple more knees.
You know meanwhile so we go back to the hearing with Muller and
by the way, I want you to do this exercise Everyone listen to
the show. Muller is really, are you angry?
Are you angry?
No, Mueller's? Really. I don't care. That's just a number.
We have no skin in the game.
We don't we have no or is a dick. No steak is up there. He's
got by the way, the cadence of Nepal. Itano. There's a lot of
this you it's almost like a meal. You like a gay meal. You
know, when you get a bunch of gay people. A lot of times they
pick up a kind of they also start sounding like each other.
It gets very gay sound for all.
In fact, that happens to me. I start sounding gay when I'm
hanging out with my gay friends.
Well, I'd like to bring it to the show. Yeah, anyway, so they
all have this certain kind of a sound. But the other thing is,
is this this arrogance of that Sheila would not Sheila Jackson,
but that was the head of the
EPA. Lisa Jackson, who was these Jackson? who's now at Apple by
the way
Yeah, rude. Arrogance. Yeah, that'll ruin it as a
virtual nose in the air his nose during the whole thing. He's
actually his nose is pointed up in the air that's how arrogant
I want everyone to do this exercise because this is the
look on his face. Drop your jaw so your mouth open a little bit
down. Oh kind of open, fully open but about half open. And
then pull your chin back as far as you can. Are and you got this
guy. And now you have to have it's like it's like that look is
the look is not just a dumb look. It's a cube or whatever
what are you gonna do anyway, that's what that's that's
Mueller's getting sick of this thing. It's a roll over there
eat gets rack rack. Good. This is Nate Nadler asking him a
question Nadler to or I'm sorry, never one, I guess Nadler
one. Yeah,
that a dragnet subpoena for every telephone, Every telephone
record instead of every email record, although I know they
don't do that anymore. But they quit again tomorrow. And they
did do it certainly makes a mockery of the relevance
standard in Section 215. If everything in the world is
relevant, then there's no meaning to that word. And as
some of us offered amendments to narrow that several years ago,
and in retrospect, maybe we should have adopted those
amendments. But that's no excuse for a misinterpretation of
relevance to the point that there is no such meaning to the
word. Now, secondly, under Section 215, if you've gotten
information from metadata, and you as a result of that, think
that gee, this phone number 873, whatever looks suspicious, and
we ought to actually get the contents of that phone of that
phone, do you need a new specific warrant,
you need at least a national security letter, all you have is
a telephone number, you do not have subscriber information. So
you need to subscriber information, you would have to
get probably a national security letter to get that subscriber
information to and then if you wanted to do more, if you wanted
to listen to the phone, then you have to get a special a
particularized order. FISA court directed at that particular
phone and that particular individual.
Now is the answer you just gave me classified? Is what the
answer you just gave me classified anyway? I don't think
so. Okay, then I can ask, then I can say the following. We heard
precisely the opposite at the briefing the other day, we heard
precisely that. You could get the specific information from
that telephone, simply based on an analyst deciding that and you
didn't need a new word. So other words, what you just said is
incorrect. So there's
certain it's the same. I answered the same question, but
I'm sorry, I didn't mean I
asked the question both times. And I think it's the same
question. So maybe you'd better go back and check because
someone who's incorrect? I will
I will do that. That That is my understanding of the proxy.
I don't question it your understanding. It was always my
understanding.
First of all, congratulations that you the great clip. I had
the same one, obviously, but you set it up perfectly. I do want
to just play this little report that came out 30 seconds about
that classified meeting, which was just blown blown open blown
wide open, because this is what happened, everyone's
backpedaling. Trying to say it was a misunderstanding. He
didn't know what he was saying. He was confusing. But how about
that secret meeting
details this afternoon from Facebook and Microsoft about
their participation in the NSA surveillance plan Facebook, and
a government data. Facebook says the government requested data
from between 18 to 19,000 user accounts in late 2012 a tiny
percentage of Facebook's 1 billion users. Microsoft says it
received requests for data of from about 32,000 users. Both
companies complied with those requests. And more than half of
the United States Senate failed to show up Friday for briefings
by intelligence officials on the NSA surveillance controversy.
The Hill reports the Senate had a short day Thursday and quote,
many lawmakers are eager to take advantage of the short day and
head back to their home states for Father's Day weekend.
Nor maybe we call that plausible deniability. I'm sorry, I
couldn't make the meeting. Half. Half of the US senators did not
go funny
because this report I heard from I think it was Feinstein when
she gave her little press briefing is that only about four
people didn't show up?
Half the US senators did not show up.
I think they I think they were there and they said they weren't
Oh, that's possible to that's possible. Is there as your
plausible deny wasn't there? Well, does.
It doesn't matter. As long as there's a report in the news
then it's all true.
Yeah. So the man show up so that now they can they got the cover.
Okay, right. More as the Obama bots said last night at dinner,
yeah, it hasn't been a good week for the President.
Well, there's, like we said, about a month ago, now they're
going to start piling on and it just hasn't stopped yet. It's
getting to be very fun.
Let's let us please, can we do donations and then and then I
got a
couple more things we got to listen to especially the
grilling by louie Gohmert. Of a Muller and also,
now let's do it. Now this would do Gohmert?
Well, no, let me say that there's a bunch of them that are
kind of played in a certain kind of order.
Okay, but where's it leading? Because, what, for me? We now
know that they can listen in anytime they're recording
everything scooping.
Now, this is different topic. Oh, okay. We're moving off to
the IRS.
Oh, okay. All right. Is it really truly new? Because I last
one, these are good, though. These are great. I'm personally
I'm just getting bored of
the whole. I got the one last clip from this wiretapping thing
is Feinstein on Alexander on the attacks. We should know by
Monday. Suppose that this replay this and dead? I'm going to
challenge this
Dan General Alexander characterize the attacks that
were presented. And when he says dozens, which he has said
publicly, is he talking 24? If 100. Were you asking again, can
get General Alexander characterize the attacks that
were prevented? And when he says he said there were dozens if he
told me 2450 100 He is
going to that information? He wants to be exact there more
than you think. And we should have that shortly. He said,
Shut up. Don't ask questions.
So for Monday support, he wants to be exact, wait a minute, let
me get this straight. We've been doing the show long enough that
anytime they stay, they set up some poor sucker to push a
button, and then they arrest them. They make big news out of
it. So all these all these situations have been reported.
And they generally have been publicized.
These are the ones we couldn't tell you about because it was
for your own good.
It's all we've got. And there's apparently more than you think
according to her dozens, and this guy doesn't even know the
number off the top of his head. But these people why not because
they're lying sacks.
They're liars. They're all liars. And this is, but this is
the horrible thing, John, this is this is why I'm just like,
whoa, okay. This is all being people. And people don't analyze
stuff the way we do. They don't listen to things the way we do.
They don't listen to the show. And they just it's like, oh,
well doesn't do you crazy. I mean, there was the subways
could have been blown up. I mean, you want it like Mort
Zuckerman said right there. Oh, yeah. I don't want to get blown
up. Do you want to get blown up? That's what they're saying. They
are now saying to people, if you don't want to get blowed up,
shut up. Shut up. And that's why this is all taking place. It's
horrible and it's spreading. In the UK, it's just like, don't
you know you're
wrong. Fine. We noticed you put you you dropped a napkin and you
left it on the ground. This is littering
now we have now we have your phone records. Anyway, let's
thank a few people. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's not how it works.
Oh, right. This is the this break. So we have a little intro
first.
First. Yeah, we do this.
I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do That's Oh yeah, that'd be fun
for you start, I would like to mention that again, this is how
we fund the operation here, which is John and myself. And we
have some back office, which is our families, essentially. Just
to show you how it works in the real big world, you have this
thing called public media. And in America, you have that and we
have the national treasure, an NPR radio site, and we have PBS,
the public broadcast system television. And there's this the
News Hour that McNeal MacNeil Lehrer NewsHour used to be
called that, yeah, well, it's in big trouble now is in big
trouble.
I know, they laid off a bunch of people. Do you know why? In San
Francisco to do why? I wondered why oh, well,
because at first I was like, wow, it's just hard times
underwriting is down sponsorship advertising call, whatever you
want to call it. That's literally how they talk about
it. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation withdrew their annual
grant.
That was enough to shutter the place three
and a half million dollars. Now they've been running it, I've
read this whole story, I've been through this entire thing. So
they, they expanded their operations and started doing
this Global Health Watch. When the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation came in with 3.3 point $2 million annually. So
all they have to do is just throwing in a report about the
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, you know, shooting
up some black kids in Africa with whatever phony baloney crap
they come up with. And then they get the 3 million bucks. But
some consultant came in and went, because they have this is
how Foundation works. They did a survey of the NewsHour and went,
No, we have to No, no, it's not really working out the way we
wanted it. So now they're coming up with a new show on PBS with
an all new producer who was probably fucking the consultant.
And so the $3.2 million is taken away that show us gone history
toast done with this is how these meetings work. It's like,
we need to get some fresh blood. And what do you think, Bill? I
don't know. Mullin. What do you think? Yeah, I'm a little bored
with the show. Yeah, I'm bored to tell you what, let's Let's
have someone investigate it. And that's how journalism works.
Philanthropic journalism, and that it's over screwed done with
that show was going off the air. They're replacing it with a new
show, which will be completely what Bill and Melinda Gates and
their foundation want it to be. That's your news, funded by a
holes who just want to propagate their message. What is that
noise? I keep hearing?
Well, we have to definitely follow this story.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the 14th. It's what I know, they
close the San Francisco office. So they everyone's done. A
couple other bureaus, I guess, shut down the bureaus and
they're going to
tear down. The title is venerable format of news, our
struggles with new era of media.
No, it doesn't. It's a great show. This is the story. This is
most objective observers, even though it's still left leaning
because all media isn't it's been admitted to by the head of
the Columbia School of Journalism. In his speech, he
said it,
John, that is the title that I just gave you of the New York
Times piece.
Well, it's in their
news our came under criticism in a confidential may 2012 report
commissioned by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, one of
the program's major supporters in recent years, that concluded
bluntly that the program needed to aggressively modernize new
gas newsgathering production good What did you tell me?
They're not cut pro. Yeah, oh, yeah. No, this is this is going
off the air. This is going off the air they're coming out with
a whole new show. It's already they're already producing it.
The audit disaster Yes.
And it's people with money can get anything done they want in
media proof fact.
Wow. However, this is not a clip on that that it makes up for the
day for me
now but but this is not how it works with our model. That's why
it here. outside consultants say the confidential study from
consultant Frank and Magadh associates I didn't do the work
I didn't have time to look into these eight holes. But you I
guarantee you he screw in someone's fucking this guy who's
going to be the new host or whatever. concluded that viewers
found the program smarter than other network news sources and
appreciate appreciated its fairness, depth, original
content and overall sense of purpose. But they also felt that
it doesn't Excel for having reporters and personalities that
viewers enjoy finding it old fashioned, slow moving, and even
boring. Well, let me tell you I don't know about the so called
public sector the public media lying sack of underwritten
commercial crap but in my world when someone says that about
your show you're fired Wow, viewers think it's a little old
fashioned a little slow moving your requires
the viewer the view I want.
Right Hey, you're I watched that show how come and contact me.
So they're fired. You're out you're done by the way it costs
$13 million a year to produce that.
Yeah. I think they do a good job I was subjective.
Forget about it. It's over.
And so now we can't even get here that we're gonna just get
some sort of foggy like, here to CNN kind
of crap UBS could choose not reedy
personalities. Hey, maybe I should apply. I've got a
personality. Everybody.
Growl Can I be your sidekick? Hey, I'm the wacky sidekick with
Tourette's. All right, PBS could choose not to route and renew
the programs contract and find a new producer for the moment. PBS
instead is investing $3 million dollars in a new program called
PBS newshour weekend. Anchored by Harvey shrews. Yvonne. Sue's
blowing somebody. Oh,
oh, wait is that one in Haris Srinivasan is on the show?
Listen,
a correspondent on the weekday program and he's also the
director of digital partnerships. Well, there it is.
Oh, there's a Fitz Hakuna.
Yeah, there it is. There it is. There it is. This is how it
works in public media. People with money can get anything done
that they want. And maybe they just didn't like the coverage of
the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. But you go
down like something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's
exactly what happens. And that is why we chose for this model.
Because it's the only
it is we already had too many people come up with you know,
you see this a one year what we'd like to do, we're changing
the way it was changing our direction. I mean, I've had that
done to me numerous times. And it's always like bold, just told
bold. It's just a lie, because nobody has the guts to say look,
here's the way if you get you go, look. We don't like you
anymore. You're done. Get out. Yeah,
you're boring. I want new friends is suck. I need new
people for my dinner for my dinners. It can't be you
anymore. And by the way one we just thought it was a little
boring. You know, somewhat someone like oh, god it i i hate
it so much. Because I've been through that loop. I've been
through that. Yeah. You know, it's not as they they said, you
know, there was a meeting it's always they there was a meeting,
you know that the board level and it's out of my hands. I
can't help it. You know, it's like really what it is. You've
either you cut your hair or you know, I'm sorry. Yes, I've been
told that.
Yeah. Can you take your that trademark of yours? Get rid of
it? Yeah. Oh, you want me to look like a penis? Ag a gene
shallot.
Can you lose the mustache?
Oprah can you be white? And saying? Exactly. No, it's not
about that at all. All right. So yes, let's thanks for
sci fi was depressing. Yeah, no, it's, it's not it's thank people
here and your Give me that kind of thing I use. That's one of my
sources. It
makes me feel happy that we, okay, you know, we're not living
it up. But hey, we're living. And I'm very proud of that. And
I'm proud of doing that with you. John Charles Dvorak.
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not me that can't do my speakers.
No, that's something is. Where's that coming from?
So I want to ask you a question to double Dutch history
question. Yeah. Because the New Amsterdam was New York City when
it was founded by the Dutch. Peter Stone. Yes. Is Harlem with
the two A's in the Netherlands was that Harlem was named after
this town or not?
Yes. Carla in Harlem, New York was named after Harlem in the
Netherlands. Yeah,
why did they drop one of the A's? Well, I mean, just to get
the eight holes on the drives, okay. All right. Anyway, onward.
I always wonder that
I don't know this is you know, it's just easier that way. I
don't know.
No, I'm saying I was wondering was named after the city. Oh,
yes.
No, there's Well, how about a Brooklyn is Brooklyn.
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is also one of those Dutch isms.
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Let me ask you a question. Are we are we overlooking these
because you know so it says here Shawna, Chris is celebrating our
two year anniversary Monday the 18th. So these are not showing
up anywhere. We can't just skip over these types of things. I
think we have to do like anniversaries. Okay, so let me
just read this. Since we didn't get our requested shout out and
karma Last Sunday we have elected to feed our infant son
cat food, so we can afford to donate again, in hopes that you
will bless our special day with karma. Well, yeah, hold on a
second Eric. The ship was heartless. He's just heartless
the kids. They're feeding their kid cat food so they can donate
again to get some karma for their anniversary. Yes, you've
got karma? Yes, John. The baton in Baton Rouge is pronounced
like the thing British cops hit Reuters over the head with baton
so it's Baton Rouge.
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baton. baton. Baton Rouge. No,
it's like you pronounce it as go to the pronunciations
pronunciate the websites and his baton like ba T T batten the
hatches is what it's like, you know, I
don't care. I liked it. This kid cat food.
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Karma blast
or we got it. We got to keep an eye on stuff like that. Well,
I'm
hoping that as I read these that you read the notes so as I
plotted through
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there yet?
Shut up. We got five more episodes
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That's actually
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highlighted in yellow for a reason. It's nice when a woman
donates a happy birthday wish to her man and says I love you
sweetie. The Nothing says I love you sweetie like a donation to
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I agree. And I want my internet.com which is a site we
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and that will conclude our donor section we do have a mate good
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to read which is Phillip Neeson is the last one we got Phillip
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they've waited long enough. I need I need to get into this.
This is just crazy. Okay, here we go. Alright,
so you have played the second half shows jingle I don't think
it tomorrow I
can do it. I mean,
if I don't if it's not nutty.
It's worse than that. Alright, so we have some more very, very
good friends here in Austin and These are the kinds of I'll tell
you, these is like this for group A or group B, this is
group G. These are the these are the gay boys.
Oh, this is the third kid
I didn't read about, but I'll just let me just to set it up
how awesome. I think these guys are one of their friends who's
who's an Austin who's I think 68 or 69. He needed a kidney. And
one of our friends, they were all on the list. One of our
friends just said, Oh, here's a kidney. So this is what these
guys are like. They're like, Oh, you need a kidney. Okay, so you
kind of get some and this just happened. Like, all of a sudden
he's like, Yeah, I'm in the hospital and the hospital. Oh,
no, I gave Robert my kidney. Okay. So think about what kind
of people these these guys are. So they have a dinner party. And
one of them is Fritz and a Fritz's Mexican German, which
is, if you want to crazy as combination, get that. And we
have a lot of Germans in Texas, but German, Mexican is even
crazier. And so they were they were having a dinner party with
a couple other people. And you know, and normally I would say,
No, no, not on Saturday night, because that's a school night. I
can't go out and play. But when these guys asked me, I go, first
of all, I really love them. But I mean, you know, you can't
these are people who are pretty awesome. And they have a guest,
a friend, I've promised to not mention her by name. And because
I think she got really freaked out when she when she found out
that I just poke holes in everything.
And she's just a person whose name I would recognize. No, not
at all.
Okay. But it's a woman and she is a childhood friend of one of
our one of our friends. And she lives in Houston. But she was in
the Austin area. For a couple things, she was in the Austin
area for something called battleground Texas. And I was
like, Oh, what is battleground Texas? And as she's explaining
to me what battleground Texas is, um, it's it's essentially it
is, if you look at the website, or I just want to get all my, my
notes here.
What is the website itself? Ground? texas.com? Yeah,
so battleground texas.com. You can see in the logo already.
Oh, yeah, it's Obama. Obama, but right. So
so they have the what they say they're doing, is they say that
they are just getting registering everyone to vote,
but no, not they're registering everyone to vote Democrat. And
but she was telling me about, you know, as she was making, she
was kind of funny about she's like, No, this is, you know,
this is all just, we're just feminists and Nazis were out.
And I think she immediately had me pegged as like a Republican,
which is wrong. And this is this is kind of where the whole thing
got off to a bad start. So she's telling me about this. I'm like,
really? Tell me about this battleground Texas. Oh, you
know, it's
what's your zip code?
No, no, don't please, please don't fill out my I don't want
any
my name in blue. Give me your zip code. They're not gonna give
it to him.
No. What do you need my? Oh, 78704. Yeah, yeah. So this is
really, really sad. So she's like, going, No, this is this is
the whole it's just like, oh, fa she says, I'm like what you go
to? Okay. Oh, yeah. No member of oh, if you don't Oh, phase,
don't you?
Yeah. Organization of freaks of America, Obama for America.
Obama for America. Right.
And so this, of course, he run by the same people, I'm sure.
And they do is they have big meetings, and they have you
know, they all go sit down and they talk about the snowflake.
You know what your snowflake is? Don't you John? No, I don't know
what you're talking about. We're in the you're in the middle of
the snowflake. And you branch out with your crystal. And then
so you are reaching people in your area. And hopefully you
touch another snowflake is created. Yes. You know what
snowflake looks like, right?
This woman spinning while she's telling you this?
Almost almost. So I'm like, okay, and but she's making fun
of it. So I'm like, Oh, that's pretty funny. So yeah, now we
have the generic coke. We have the organic pizzas. And we talk
about how we're going to basically register register
people to vote, because Texas is not no red state. She says Texas
is a non voting state. Okay, fair enough. Great. Then, you
know, we're just all happily chatting about and, and, and I,
of course, at one point say, wow, it's you know, it's been,
it's been an interesting, something came up about the NSA
and about the spying and everything. And she says, yeah,
it's been a really rough week or rough month. And I said, Yeah,
well, you know, it's same old same old same guy, different
story doesn't make any difference who's in the White
House? And then she says, and this is what got me pissed off.
She said, Yeah, except now it's a Democrat. And of course, you
know, everyone just wants to, you know, to kill the black guy
in the white house. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm paraphrasing, but
that's what it was like a talking point. It was like
MSNBC, and she says, You hear it all over Texas. I'm like,
really? I hear it on MSNBC all the time. I don't hear anyone in
Texas really saying they want to shoot the black guy in the white
house. And she has this scale of like one to five and how we got
to talk to people about this thing. And five is people who
just want to go shoot the black man in the White House. And one
is like Mickey, you know, like, loves, loves gay people and
maybe has a gun. So. And essentially, if you look at our
Twitter, which I did, what they do is they yell at Republicans
on Twitter. That's kind of the whole job of battleground Texas.
But she says,
if it's if it's for getting people to register to vote,
obviously you serve as for getting people to vote Democrat,
because if you listen to the second paragraph in the about us
page. To do that, we need Texans in every corner of the state
from Amarillo to Brownsville and El Paso to Beaumont to stand up
and say that we are that they're tired of not being heard tired
of being represented in Austin and in Washington, DC and tired
of the same Republican playbook, which is failing our communities
and ignoring the needs of countless Texans.
So seriously, I can't give you her Twitter, but she is
seriously what she does is yells at Sarah Palin on Twitter. I kid
you not I kid you not now. So um, so now this woman is very
interesting. She lives in Houston. She's from Virginia.
She's, I believe she's wealthy because she has an 11 year old
son and two horses. And the irony that her husband is in the
oil and gas industry. We didn't get to talk about that. Because
she says, but that's not my real job. Oh, what's your real job?
Well, she works for Moms Demand Action. Like, whoa, what's that?
Because I'm in and I'm really trying. No, I don't like ruining
dinner parties. I don't Yeah, no, he's my friends. And by the
way, they're risky to have their their will. Yes, of course. I'm
a risk. And there was like, the minute she said that thing
about, you know, shoot the black man in the White House. There
was like, it was like someone put the cone of silence over the
table. And everyone's like, looking at me. Like she didn't
curries here. Oh, God. Oh, please. Oh, shit. Now he's up.
He's gonna ask questions. So then she starts on about this
Moms Demand action.org. I was like, what is it? Well, we want
universal background checks. We want to limit magazines, we want
to Oh, wow. Okay. And this is, now all of a sudden things are
starting to click into place to me because I had just seen
someone from Moms Demand Action on television. Here's Kim
Russell, who was the national spokeswoman for this
organization. I think on CNN, what do you say is been your
group's
singular success. Since the shooting at Newtown,
I think our biggest success here has been just harnessing the
power of mothers and fathers to join us in this fight. The
tragedy in Newtown woke us all up. We were shocked to discover
the state of gun violence in this country. It's really a
shame that it took such a tragedy to do that. But now
we're here and we're going to fight this we're going to get
awareness out about this issue legislatively. And also from a
cultural perspective. We're really trying to make a
difference.
You've got a new initiative where you're trying to get
videogame companies not to enter into agreements anymore with
with good manufacturers. And I think a lot of folks would be
surprised to even know about some of these agreements. What
are they? So they're so so I'm starting to remember this stuff.
And I'm saying, oh, wait a minute. Aren't you guys going
after the video game industry said no, we're just putting our
toe in the water. I said, but you're going after violent
movies as well, aren't you? Now she knows I'm an adversary. So
I'm like, Oh, crap. I don't want to ruin this gave it away. I
did. And then as it does, so tell me what do you really want?
And she rolls it out, you know, universal back cruncher. What do
you mean? Well, we can't have people handing off guns to each
other. We want it all to be registered. I'm like, okay, you
know, but, and, of course, now I'm like, so who is this really
about? Well, you know, we can't have gangbangers handing off
guns to each other and like rolled Yeah, but won't they kind
of do that and and then she she whips around. It's like, Oh, why
don't we just not have stop signs? Like I'm not quite sure
how that fits in but I said let's just look at this
rationally for a second what I know that well bear with me John
bear with me he gets a lot worse. So I'm like when did this
thing start? He said right after Newtown and what is it It's
mom's from all over the country and we demand action. Okay, so
I'm kind of like ah, this is this is really this is really
strange. Now will tell me a little bit more about this group
and she rolls in again, we want universal background. She had
got that. But what do you really want? I mean, is that going to
really stop the problem and by the Wait, do what you're talking
about. The primary is not the biggest problem is you're
talking about white kids being killed by a white kids. You
know, the real problem is black kids being killed by black kids.
That's where your real problem is. But okay, you know, I'm, I'm
willing to go with it. And I'm now I'm interested in your
message because I see one thing, John, this would really hurt me
last night, I see a woman who really is patriotic, and she
really cares about our country. But she has been taken by the
balls by this propaganda machine, which at this very
moment, is rolling out the six month since New Town and she had
almost like, you know, since 1214. You're the whole meme that
we've been on. Everything's been pounded into this woman's head.
And she really, really means well, I know She means well, of
course, we want to help our kids. But she has a hate, a hate
for anything that has the name Republican, which I'm convinced
he still thinks I'm a Republican. She has a hate for
anything that is not in line with the talking points that
that we've discussed, and is completely closed, any kind of
conversation about something that might make some sense. And
when I said, you know, maybe you just want to get rid of guns
altogether. No, no, no, no. I said, Well, what do you what is
your life, wouldn't you if you're in that taking that
perspective? Yeah, well, why wouldn't you? If you, you're on
this boat,
I'll tell you why. I know. Why wouldn't you? I know why.
Because I said to her, I said, You know what, this is really
about, you said, this organization that you're a part
of. I said, I think it's filled and Mickey said she was gonna
cry. I disagree because I was being really calm to this
organization. You're a part of it was gonna cry. We're never
gonna get Mickey wasn't gonna cry. He did. This woman. Girl
was gonna Mickey Mickey, like pulled her away from me at a
certain point. It's like you my husband's an asshole
elder with this. You're just moving women to what I
said. I said, you know that that's really what this is about
is you know, any leaders haters that hate the Republicans, they
hate the Republicans. And she said, Yes, that is true. But we
also really want and I said, Okay, now tell me about this
organization. And so it started by this woman named Shannon
watts. So after this dinner, and I like, I know this, I know this
Shannon Watts Woman, why do I know because she's Melfi look.
And here's here's what here's her video. Here's her story of
why she started. She's from Indiana, by the way. So she
started this actually started first as a Million Moms against
guns.org. And I guess that didn't work. So they changed it
to Moms Demand action.org. It is not a nonprofit. They don't
claim to be a nonprofit, you can donate to them. Here's her story
on the website. I am
the mother of five children in Indianapolis. My 12 year old son
found out about the Aurora shootings right before he went
into see Batman. In the middle of the movie, he had a panic
attack. It was the first of many. Since then he has seen a
psychologist has developed nervous tics and he's afraid to
sleep. I want to be able to tell him when he goes into a movie
that he's safe. I want to mean it. I want to feel it. And I
don't we have got to have stronger gun control laws in
this country. We need new and stronger gun laws. Now. There is
no reason to wait. There have been too many shootings in this
country where we've done nothing. We won't do nothing.
Again. As a mom, I demand action. Yeah, boohoo
Brokk. No, let me stop you here. A couple of things. No kid
should react this way. Unless the endless obviously the dinner
table talk is about this constantly. And she has scared
her own child to death
and you're letting the kid go to the Batman movie. I mean,
please.
So this is this woman's got an issue. I'm reminded there's an
ad that's floating around the Bay Area just it's a strange ad.
It's a woman saying we you know, she's selling some sort of
program so you can get your kids to stop back talking into
behave. And she starts by describing her own child going
berserk. And then, you know, apparently having these huge
tantrums and couldn't be completely out of control. Then
she says and I'm a psychologist, she's the psychologist who let
her own kid go out of control. Now she's got some program.
There's the this is the Brahm this these women well, this
woman Hold
on, hold on, hold on, John. You don't have the complete story.
So I'm seeing this woman like I know
about that when we talk about Shannon watts. Shannon Watts
there's a story behind her. So I'm I know this woman I've seen
this woman before. She used to be Shannon Triton, tr ough to n.
And but if you find and by the way, the women the Moms Demand
Action for Gun Sense. It's the whole thing. Common Sense
regulation. It's everything. It's the entire talking point.
common sense gun sense gun and gun set. Okay.
She is the founder of Moms Demand I Action for Gun Sense in
America national organization dedicated to creating action on
common sense gun laws at state and federal levels. Former
founder and president of voxpop public relations, a public
relations agency focused on enhancing the value and
reputation of individuals, companies and organizations,
formerly shield led communications for the country's
largest health insurance, medical device and agricultural
companies. Which company would that be John, do you think
that's where I remembered her from?
Monsanto?
Exactly. She spokes who she was the spokeswoman for Monsanto,
for GE health care for she worked at flashcard Hillard
Hello, one of the biggest
FleishmanHillard
flash my thoughts flight FleishmanHillard. So she's been
hired. She has been hired to create this group. And this is
what have I saw, it happened before my eyes this girl woman,
she's a little younger than I am. I saw her realizing that
she's been had, she's been brought in. And of course, she's
angry. She, everyone's angry, people are angry. She's angry
about you know, whatever, whatever happens, whatever you
think happens, that children are getting killed, and we're
getting killed. And, and all this stuff has happened.
All the numbers are down, by the way. It'd be you, but you can't
reason with her on that. She has been programmed, and I felt so
bad for her. And I even said, Let's try and work together
here. Let me try and help you a little bit. I said, because
you're gonna get screwed in this deal. said first of all, let's
let's talk about the second amendment for a second. You know
what, because I was going to ask, you know what it really
says, said, because the fight is coming down to the Second
Amendment pretty soon. And you better know what it says. And
she and you know, of course, I wanted her to say, well, it's
the right to bear arms. She started to say that. It doesn't
really say that. It said, but she said, It's a living
document. Like oh, God, oh, girl, you are old bromide.
You're in so much trouble. You're in so much trouble with
this. You know, you have you have to be careful because
you're gonna get hurt. Because you're being used. You're being
used. You've been programmed. I wasn't exactly saying it like
this, because this is where Mickey sees Mickey. He's like,
alright, Adam, stop. We're going home. So I come home. And I see
the same outfit on C span. And what they've done is that, you
know, they've taken the again for the for the sixth time now.
It's like 666. They've taken parents and some of the some
older siblings from the New Town kids. They go out there with
Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. And they all they all go roll out in
front of all the in front of the house. And they do this Friday
is
the six month anniversary of the shootings in Newtown,
Connecticut. In Washington today. Some of the families that
the victims and a group of lawmakers talked about reducing
gun violence. This is 40 minutes.
The following people were killed on December 14, due to gun
violence. Charlotte bacon, age six, Olivia angle, age six. And
Anna Mark has grain age six. Dylan Hockley, age six, Madeline
Soos, age six.
So you kind of get the idea of what's of what's going on here.
Right? It's like so they're they're literally taking these
they're abusing these names once again, and they do this
continuously. And they did this all over Washington DC. And
like, you know, so that's a six month list. Let me give you a
list for a second. Okay. For you it for the all you people who
think it's yeah. Is it horrible that the children got killed?
Maybe? I don't know what happened. You know, maybe it'd
be more effective if you show what really happened to release
some of the records but okay, you're too traumatized to do
that. Let me give you a list from the past two weeks. Staff
Sergeant Jesse L. Thomas, Jr. 31. Lieutenant Colonel Todd J.
Clark 40 Edmund Mills, New York. Major Jamie Leonard 39 of
Warwick, New York Second Lieutenant Justin L. Sis and 23
of Phoenix, Arizona specialist Robert apears 20 of Panama,
Oklahoma, Warrant Officer Sean W. Mullen 39 of Dover, Delaware,
Private First Class Mariano M. Raimundo 21 of Houston, Texas
specialist Raymond Ramirez. 20 of Sacramento, California.
Specialist Kyle Pease Doki Li 21 of mostly Virginia Staff
Sergeant job M Raghu. 30 of Austin, Texas. Where's that
list? New people who are dying in Afghanistan for no fucking
reason. That's a list you should read once in a while. That's two
weeks. No, instead, Nancy Pelosi has the gall after that to say
this. As far as I'm concerned, we've never ever had a better
speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Leader for your generous introduction. But
really, more importantly for your very strong words of
commitment to making sure that we honor our oath of office to
protect and defend the American people. It's not your oath of
office bitch.
You don't protect and defend the American people, these poor
kids, these 20 and 30 year olds are sent away to pretend to
protect some kind of frickin interest over there in
Afghanistan, and you have the gall to stand there and say that
you took that oath of office, which is not your oath at all.
It is to protect and uphold the Constitution, not to protect the
American people, you should be ashamed of yourself. And of the
way you've manipulated all these well, well intended mothers and
women of America into following your insane agenda, just to get
more votes, because that is the ugly, vicious truth of what
you're really doing. Do I get to play it?
Yeah, you might as well see movies on the day. There you go.
So here's a funny, there's this this Moms Demand Action thing
because a certain laziness to this group. Based on somebody
being in PR too long, they have a web page, the demand common
sense gun laws demand action page, and they have like, you
select a member of Congress. And then you select one of the
canned messages, and there appears to be about 15 of them.
And then you click on that, and then it will tweet it. Yeah,
yeah. Hashtag vote Gun Sense. And if and, and I suppose that
your representative if it's if you're represented as a complete
idiot, yeah, well, notice that these are can and it all, every
one of them starts with fact. A really, no back, says 1982 There
have been 62 mass shootings in the US seven were in 2012.
Alone. Hashtag vote Gun Sense. Fact gun related deaths are
projected to surpass automobile automobile deaths, it says a
dash automobile related deaths in 2015. Ah, I don't think so. I
don't think that's true. I don't think that's a fact. No, I don't
think it's a fact even close. No. Fact The Accidental gun
deaths rate is 10x. Higher in the US than any other developed
country. The Accidental gun death rate. Okay, well, it's
possible. Fact, eight children die from guns each day in
America, in fact, more precise. 20. Now this is 2007 Fact. More
preschoolers were killed by guns and police officers in the line
of duty. Okay, well, anyway, you get the idea. These are all
these factoids,
but he's been you don't want to but you know, the fact but this
is what is so I really met. And this This is, this is what
really hurt. I met someone who has been completely and utterly
brainwashed. But the thing is, she knew it. She knew it. She
knew what was what she was just she was all in. She was all in
but but she shamed her body. And this is what this is why it's so
incredibly unhealthy and why this show is good and why even I
need to just scream and yell once in a while because you need
to get this out. Is it's so unhealthy for someone to be so
locked into that mentality, this exclusionary, you know,
Republicans or exclusionary
hate Mills hate John hate. She was like, No, by the end, the
liberal side of the equation supposed to be this loving side.
No a dere. hate, hate hate is completely hateful. And it's
really very unhealthy. People really got it, oh, they gotta
stop this. You know, you can't have contradictory thoughts in
your brain. That doesn't make sense. And
Mickey was talking to her somewhere in the middle
somewhere where I just backed away. And Mickey says, Well, how
do you talk to people that are like, we don't talk to them? But
you don't know. No, we don't talk to fives, or fours or
threes? No, we only talk to people who are reasonable. You
know, we they make us like why I think it'd be fascinating if
there was some guy that actually said, I want to get that nigger
in the White House, shoot him put a cap on his ass. That would
be the guy I want to talk to him. She said and that's
literally how they were talking. She's no one surprised me by
literally, whether there's some guys that talk like that.
No, no, no, that there were the women were like, no, she has got
issues. This is a she you have children and she Mary, what's
the deal?
Yeah, she has. She has a childhood. Of course she has
issues. But But John, I think what I'm saying is the women,
the moms of America have issues. Big ones. They've been so
sickened by media and it's been thrown into their heads over and
over and over again. Now you're seeing the result of it and I'm
like, we have to save these women. I'm not angry at her. I'm
really not You know, but wow, this seems
like a lot of work
from which we have no stake in the outcome,
right? Put your skin in the game. Oh, well just reporters
anyway,
the best part is she had a bumper sticker and a pen a
badge. And I really wanted to she would not, by the way, that
the way I know that she knew that I was onto it. She said,
You can't mention me, I speak on behalf of myself. You know, I'm
not speaking as a representative of the organization, you know?
So she's very worried because, you know, that's like a
militaristic organization somehow, where you can't you
know, yeah, you'd
be talking to anyone is not a one or a two or whatever it is.
You're talking to a four or five what you are, yeah, and they are
no, you don't want to President killed so you're not a five
you're four. Right. And so you're be a four. You can't be
talking to the president may lives. Yeah. And which is, you
know, I believe there are no fives I don't never I've never
done doing that. I suppose for some idiots
out there. Yeah. on MSNBC. That's where I hear it all the
time. Yeah, well, there there was a propagate
that. So. But she
had a bumper sticker and a pin that said, Obama 2012 Hillary
2016 I'm like, please, I want to buy one of these bumper
stickers. Just you get a picture of it. And no, she wouldn't let
me take a picture. She said, you're just gonna mock me. I
said, I want Hillary Clinton to be president.
Money in the Bank for this show.
My partner's middle name is cash. Are you kidding me? This
is I really, I really, really want it because the promise is
there'll be no more war. She won't send kids to war. I want I
want it I want I believe that I'm a believer and see like your
insincere asshole. Like, maybe, but I know what she wouldn't let
me take a picture.
Wow, talk about a paranoid weirdo.
So, but anyway, I feel so just to wrap it up. Yeah, you say
it's a lot of work. I hope somehow I don't know if the I
don't know if it can be done. But if you encounter one of
these people, I think it is your American duty. And I can only
speak about America. I don't know where this is happening
everywhere. I'm sure one form or the other. But in America, it is
your duty to cry in hell. And
you know, I've said say punch them don't
punch him in the face. Hit him in the mouth where it counts.
I think there are lost causes personally. Ah, man.
But then yeah, just all that, oh, that Pelosi stuff made me
insane. Insane. You know, when we refuse, we refuse to get
this. We have. We're sending children to get blown to bits
for mineral extraction for you know, for the gas companies and
pipelines and, and no, and we don't even we don't even pretend
to honor them. No, no, we have to keep rolling out names of
kids that were shot by some moron we think. Yeah, it's so
wrong. It's all upside.
Okay. Okay, remember done? Oh, you already did that. Let's
change the topic a little bit because I want to get a couple
clips out of the way before the show ends that had to do with
there's one there's one that we've got, I realized after
clipping this, and I don't have the beginning of this clip, but
there is a there is a secrets agency within the FBI that is
classified and louie Gohmert was on to this and he was all over
it. And I want to play the beginning of this clip don't
want to interrupt the clip and I'm gonna mention what he what
he then discussed, because this is a clip that where he goes
after Mueller Mueller in one of the hearings and louie Gohmert.
Of course, that character from Texas, who was very always used
the entertaining, but he's really irked in this particular
hearing
you feel I will I will look at that. And well. And also I want
to go back to Boston, you said things like, jotted these down
what you said did, the FBI did an excellent job did a thorough
job, don't know what else we could have done. And according
to the Russians, there's a great deal more that could have been
done. And when we find out about this, this sensitive operations
Review Committee, and as this article points out, if it's
true, it says that we don't know who the Chairman and members are
of this sensitive operations review committee who the staff
that's kept secret. The FBI never canvass Boston moss until
four days out.
Saw this is a good one. Yeah.
So I, after listening to this to separate the Special Operations
review committee is something that needs to be discussed and
it's classified. They like he's Gohmert said in the Ask them
over and he says why is this classified is just a committee
that overlooks why why is it classified? We don't know any of
the people that are involved in this. And I'm beginning to think
that this is the committee that was orchestrating what happened
in Boston and the And there was just an avoidance behavior you
then they said, why is it classified? And Gilbert was
irked about this. And he went on and on about why this is
classified. And he started grilling Mueller, about why they
didn't go to the mosque that these guys were attending and
investigate it right after or before the shootings. And Muller
does have just one weird excuse, which is, oh, we had an outreach
program months earlier, which is bullcrap. That means that
somebody visited the place and planet of bugs
exactly what he says, Think the tax, if the Russians tell you
that someone has been radicalized, and you go check
and see the mosque that they went to, then you get the
articles of incorporation as I have for the group that that
created the Boston Moss, where these are natives attended. And
you find out the name Allah moody, which you will remember
because why you FBI director, this man who was so helpful to
the Clinton administration with so many big things, he gets
arrested at Dulles Airport by the FBI, and he's now doing over
20 years for supporting terrorism. This is the guy that
started the moss, where you're sorry, if we're attending, and
you didn't even bother to go check about the mosque. And then
when you have the pictures, why didn't No one go to the mosque
and say, Who are these guys they attend may attend here? Why was
that not done since such a thorough job was done?
Your facts are not pulled together?
Well at point out specifically, I might point out specifically,
sir, if you're gonna call me a liar, you need to point out
specifically where any facts are wrong.
We went to the mosque to Boston, prior to Boston or to Boston
happening, we were in that mosque talking to Imam several
months beforehand, as part of our outreach efforts.
Were you aware that that was mosque were started by Allah
moody? have answered the question, sir. You didn't answer
the question. Were you aware they were started by Allah
moody. You are not. Okay. Thank you, gentlemen.
I love that that Muller Muller has done he's out, he doesn't
have to worry about this crash. And
he's got that look on his face, like Screw you. Whatever. I got
one more Muller one, that's even better. So not quite as angry.
But it stems from a couple of things that that, that one of
our favorite, Congressman Cummings Cummings, said he was
on the IRS. This is an IRS thing. And he was on the IRS
situation. He went ballistic in the congressional hearings, and
this is the Cummings number one clip. And then I think somebody
from the White House, call them and tell it told him to stop it.
You know, I go back. And I could not every time I would watch
these videos at three o'clock this morning. You know, I said
to myself, so this is appalling. But you know, what really got me
when I walked out the door, to come to Washington, and to see
my constituents who get the early bus, the ones that go down
to the Sheraton Hotel in downtown Baltimore, and clean
the floors them. And I thought about the man who came to me the
other day, because he had just gotten a letter from the IRS
about an audit. And I believe deep in my heart, he didn't mind
being an auditor, he was scared as all get out. But he wants to
know that he's been treated fairly. And he wants to know,
and these are the words that I'm going to concentrate on today.
The other day, I concentrated on truth. And trust, trust a I'm
going to add on to that take and waste. Takeaways. What happens
here? Is that when we have episodes like this, it has an
impact on the average person. Yeah, no,
you're good. Yeah, it's fine. Because it just gonna go on. He
just he's on a rant. So the next day he goes on Candy Crowley and
here's what he says
to you. And that is, as far as you are
concerned, based on the information that you now have,
which in its totality is greater than ours. Is this case over?
Have you solved the case of the IRS and how this came to be
based upon everything I've seen in the case of SOP. And if it
were me, I would wrap this case up and move on to be frank with
you.
So he changed his tune a little bit.
Oops, yeah, it's all over. Nothing to see here. Move on,
carry on, folks. And we're all good.
And so Jim Jordan, who is in the area, he's in Ohio, and all the
Ohio congressmen are just completely being, you know,
bedeviled by because a lot of this happened and out of the
Cincinnati office, even though it's seems to stem from from
Washington DC. So he goes after Muller, and he uses the
committee's commentary to use it as a basis. So play clip, George
In a tax Mueller one,
Mr. Cummings accurate in his assessment.
Could you repeat that if
based on everything I've seen quoting Mr. Cummings, the case
is solved. This is regarding the IRS scandal which case, the IRS
scandal,
the IRS case, the IRS case is currently under investigation.
And basically it just started.
Yeah, what can you tell us? I mean, you started a month ago,
what can you what can you tell us about this? Have you found
any any? Have you found the now infamous two rogue agents? Have
you discovered who those people are?
Needless to say, because it's under investigation, I can't
give out anything. Can
you tell me? Can you tell me some bases? Can you tell me how
many agents investigators you've assigned to the case? May be
able to do that. But I'd have to get back to you and tell me the
lead investigator is
just interrupt because I saw I saw this. And actually, I didn't
clip this. And I'm wondering, why do you do you just hate
this?
No, no, I just think it's fun to watch these occasionally. Some
guys in Congress. Muller didn't care if you're sitting there
with this. He does.
But this to me was a big show. It's like Muller doesn't care.
And this guy is just I think he's just getting points. I
thought this actually to be pretty
dicey probably was, but I just liked passion.
Fun. Yeah, this most important issue of in front of the country
the last six weeks, you don't know who's heading up the case,
who the lead investigator is, at this juncture? No, I do not know
who you get that information to us. We'd like to know we'd like
to know how many people you've assigned to look into this
situation.
I have not had a recent briefing on and I had a briefing on it
when we first initiated but I have not had to leave leading
the case. I do not know who
is leading. Do you know if you've talked to any of the
victims? Have you talked to any of the groups who were targeted
by their government? Have you met with any of the Tea Party
folks since May? 14? I don't care about folks. If 2013.
I don't know what the status of the interviews are by the team
notes on it.
Would you expect that that's been done?
There? Certainly at some point in time, and of course, the
investigation will be done. But generally being outside and the
investigation you get the documents so that you can have
or don't you normally talk to I did not know specifically what
is in your extensive record and history and investigative work.
Don't you typically talk to the victim used to criminal
investigation? Do you typically talk to victims pretty much?
No, you gotta keep playing this. And I'll tell you what, you
overlooked on this. I didn't realize it until I listen to
this Jordan character going on and on against Muller, that
during this this was just like, oh, it was an accident. It was a
big deal. They when when these IRS guys were going to visit
people, the FBI would come and stay. And it was just out and
out government intimidation.
Yes. This is correct. Yeah. Well play the
rest of that clip and then play the next one. And we'll be out
of here.
So did the FBI contact any of these same victims? Were they
contacted by the FBI? Prior to the investigation when the same
groups were applying for tax exempt status? Did the FBI pay
some of these individuals a visit?
No, do not no. Pardon? I do not know. You don't know. I do not
know
some of them testified that they were paid a visit by the FBI
specifically Catherine Engel Brecon, in Texas that she was
visited by the FBI she was head of true the vote. Is that true
or not? Do not know. Do not know. Okay. If the or excuse me
if the FBI did contact people involved in the IRS scandal
victims groups prior to the investigation when they were
applying for tax exempt status. Why was that the case? Why would
you be why would you be looking into it? And was there possibly
coordination with the IRS and why
you targeted asking me details about the investigation? I'd be
happy to get back not ask
you decent about the investigation. I'm saying why
were people targeted before the investigation started? Why were
they contacted by the FBI? People who are now part of Tea
Party groups who were targeted by the IRS.
You're asking questions about details of the investigation.
I'd be happy to take
that as not a detail about the investigation that took place
prior to the investigation started. He's
not please finish. You're asking detailed questions about the
investigation. Be happy to get back to you and answer those
questions that I can't understand me.
I'm asking basic questions about the investigation, like who's
heading it up? And you can't tell me that. Can you get back
to me on any any group who was targeted by the IRS who the FBI
visited with prior to the investigation, starting? What
while they were applying for tax that would be important
information for this committee to have. Can you get that to me?
We'll look at the questions and traitors. have you reviewed the
Inspector General's report regarding the IRS scandal?
I had been through it. Yes.
Do you have any concerns about the way the inspector general
did the report and collected information?
I did not focus on that. No, I was looking well, let
me ask you a couple of things. Is it typically appropriate for
for the investigator to have the central one of the central
players in this Miss Holly pas, who was director of one of the
one of the key players at the tax exempt division set in on
all the interviews Almost all the interviews with employees in
that division is that typically how an investigation is done.
I'm not familiar with those circumstances I understand what
you're saying about those circumstances. So not being
familiar with it I can't and you're and you're
just goes on. And of course you're right. He's just saying
whatever I'm out of here, I'm short timer. Now when last one,
there was a guy named Maha. You saw the sense you saw the whole
thing. Do you see that old guy gobble whatever his name is?
Gobble. gurbles is really old, old old guy that was talking to
him about Benghazi. And I didn't clip the whole thing you just
clip the end of it Bob gobbler, Goble or bobble or something,
Howard? Yeah, I think is gobble gobble, gob le. And the guy's
the wreck. He's got his hair's falling out. He's got boils all
over his face. He's just a jaw. He looks like he's 100. And I
just thought to get the biggest kick out of his last bit
commentary right here.
I'm sorry, has this put a damper on our ability to pursue leads
and our suspects?
Well, you don't know what you don't know what you may have
missed. I can tell you that the investigation is ongoing. We've
had some success that I can't get into today. But it is a very
difficult operating environment not just at the scenes itself,
but obtaining the cooperation of witnesses and others who may
have information relating to the
comps about our Mr. Dollar. This bid Gaza the tragedy still hangs
in my craw. I'm not directing this to you. But I'm directing
it somebody we we've we still don't know all the facts. I
don't suggest there's a cover up but it has the trappings of a
cover up and repeated a crawl under the light dread that you
say makes him a coffee tastes bad in the morning. But we'll
see what happens. Thank you for being with us.
It's not that was it? Man, it's in my craw. So it has the
trappings of a cover up is an old guy. He's seen this before.
You gotta love it. Anyway, so we listen to C span so you don't
have to.
And I think we do a damn good job of a John.
We dig up a lot of stuff. At least the public is getting
something and it's like when you play stuff from a congressional
hearing. And it's really revealing certain things that
the news media doesn't cover any of it. They don't care. And now
they're getting rid of the only possibly somewhat objective
operation the news our
Yeah, in that twisted.
It's totally twisted. I mean, how much? I mean, how much crap
do they want to feed the public? At least people watch that show
got a some balance?
Well, I think you know, good riddance to them. Because, you
know, if they feel that they they took the money from the
devil, you know, they they took this huge amount from Bill and
Melinda Gates. And you know, the Lord give us the Lord taketh,
you know.
So it was all from viewers like you.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
I got to go through all my clips. I'm good. Well, yeah, you
almost did get all of them, didn't you? I left the Keith
Alexander when I was
nine. I can keep that one. Well, we're way over time. But that
means we'll have plenty to talk about as I am sure I will come
under attack from the mothers of America. Moms hate me. That can
be my new slogan. Hey, mom's hate me. There you go. On show
isn't my friend. Thank you very much. Happy Father's Day to you
all I see my daughter tweeted me. And she says, at least I'm
not adopted. Oh, there you go. Her version of loving me on the
Bogut of holiday of Father's Day. We've educated her to well.
Alright, John, thank you very much good hanging out with you
as always.
My daughter made me a mug. Oh, nice. out of clay. Yes. Oh, I'm
scratch. Oh, that's sweet.
Oh, my daughter lives too far away to do stuff like that.
And she could nail it. You know? Yeah.
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