1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,690 And then when we have like 50 TriCity terror strikes every 2 00:00:03,690 --> 00:00:06,600 single week given like dead from like people like blown Stock 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,360 Exchange crash our entire economy has been no money going 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,770 to the ATMs which man can do this. Hey, we read this trade a 5 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:15,660 little bit of our security for liberty or whatever. I don't 6 00:00:15,660 --> 00:00:19,410 care if we can't do this. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, 7 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:23,010 June 23 2013. Time for your chemo nation media assassination 8 00:00:23,010 --> 00:00:29,850 episode five to four. This is no agenda. Hello, howdy and Hi, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,400 everybody from the Travis heights hideout in Austin tea 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,650 house in the morning. I'm Adam curry 11 00:00:34,740 --> 00:00:39,570 and from Northern Silicon Valley at the mecca of tech and John C. 12 00:00:39,570 --> 00:00:39,960 Dvorak. 13 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:48,360 I forgot to say I'm in the capital of the drone Star state 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:54,150 that would make your mecca of tech come out better. All right. 15 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:58,500 Here we are at No, actually John, I'm here at Moscow 16 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:02,040 Airport, where I'm here with many reporters and 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,770 photographers. It's just wild wild crazy John, we're waiting 18 00:01:04,770 --> 00:01:09,750 for leaker Snowden to show up. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,050 Tell me what you've learned Adam, while 20 00:01:13,050 --> 00:01:16,410 I'm learning that everyone knows he's gonna be here and we don't 21 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:20,580 know Greg and Glenn Greenwald will be calling in soon. Who 22 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:22,860 seems to be his PR person now? 23 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:28,800 And you're sure they're gonna be at the airport not the train 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,610 station. No, no, 25 00:01:29,610 --> 00:01:32,700 no, we have the graphics on screen we have the little Eric 26 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:37,320 for airplane flying from Hong Kong to Moscow so therefore we 27 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:44,940 know that he will be arriving here, John. Wow. This is this is 28 00:01:44,940 --> 00:01:49,440 like porn for these people. It's totally TV news porn. What's 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,520 taking place now? 30 00:01:50,910 --> 00:01:54,900 So it's like, of course get snowed in never read The 31 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:58,920 Confessions of an economic hitmen concerning these little 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,210 planes. But okay, 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,760 well, he's not taking a little plane. He's on an and he's like, 34 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:05,310 on an Aeroflot, like a commercial airlines and 35 00:02:05,310 --> 00:02:07,560 Aeroflow. Yeah, you have to kill. 36 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:10,770 Yeah, no. And of course Wikileaks has to tweet his exact 37 00:02:10,770 --> 00:02:14,220 flight number. This thing is it's so transparent what's going 38 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:17,970 on now. And you know, and so I retweet this WikiLeaks thing I 39 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:18,300 like, 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,850 yeah, it's just sneaking them out of the country by telling 41 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:22,860 the flight number. That's good work. 42 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:25,800 Yeah. And then of course, everyone's like, No, man, this 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,490 is good. They should do that. Because you is protected by 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,410 being public. Now. What? Do people not realize that 45 00:02:34,410 --> 00:02:36,150 WikiLeaks is the CIA? 46 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:38,850 John F. Kennedy. Oh, fleas. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:46,170 This is It's so crazy. What is going on right now. And I think 48 00:02:46,170 --> 00:02:52,110 that such a perfect job is being done of sucking in the 49 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:56,160 alternative thinking masses, which are truly our masses, 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,970 people no longer believe the news media, because the news 51 00:02:59,970 --> 00:03:05,250 media is now baiting them with little conspiracy nuggets. Like 52 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:08,880 here, take this conspiracy nugget. I have a little 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,630 conspiracy. cheat a little, little Dougie, treat here. I'll 54 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:18,360 give this to you. Let them all fight over that. It's just wow. 55 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:20,190 I mean, wow. 56 00:03:23,010 --> 00:03:26,010 It's funny the way they've done that, too. They've got Alex 57 00:03:26,010 --> 00:03:28,410 Jones on the one hand for the people who have to go off the 58 00:03:28,410 --> 00:03:31,800 deep end and think they're gonna die at any minute. Yeah. And 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,130 then they have the end of the spectrum goes all the way to, 60 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:39,480 you know, the the moaning the conspiracy theory and everything 61 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,230 in between the people who don't know what a conspiracy is, yep. 62 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:48,450 It's just it's amazing, that spectrum of of reality has been 63 00:03:48,450 --> 00:03:49,710 stretched to the limit. 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,380 And even our own our own audience, who I know listen to 65 00:03:55,380 --> 00:03:58,590 almost every single show and they forget, they've already 66 00:03:58,590 --> 00:04:03,360 forgotten the dislike, oh, the Snowden notes. I really think 67 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,450 you have to reevaluate where he stands in this debate. It is not 68 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:15,150 necessarily your hero or your villain. will let us remember 69 00:04:15,150 --> 00:04:22,110 that this that he came forward, thanks to this video OG of this 70 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:28,320 documentary maker, Leni Riefenstahl, who also you know, 71 00:04:28,350 --> 00:04:32,040 did the highly stylized video of him who has been doing all of 72 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,890 these NSA like exposure missions who has received half a million 73 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:43,620 dollars in fund money now there's a lot going on here. And 74 00:04:43,710 --> 00:04:49,050 and since the did you see this Wired article about Kaiser 75 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:57,420 Alexander No, oh my god. Ah, no wonder they want to get the NSA 76 00:04:57,420 --> 00:05:00,720 is being exposed. These guys are out of control. How much power 77 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:07,890 this this Kaiser Alexander this is not this is from the wired 78 00:05:07,890 --> 00:05:12,360 threat level blog, which we know is a direct pipeline from the 79 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:19,110 CIA. And we've I think that's to most people that that's obvious. 80 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:23,220 I'll just read a little bit of this. In fact, the title of the 81 00:05:23,220 --> 00:05:26,730 piece is the secret war infiltration assault sabotage 82 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:30,630 mayhem. Four years four star General Keith Alexander has been 83 00:05:30,630 --> 00:05:33,930 building a secret army capable of launching devastating cyber 84 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:39,870 attacks now it's now it's ready to unleash hell. If that's the 85 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,900 that's the just the title of this piece. Inside Fort Meade, 86 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:46,290 Maryland, Top Secret City bustles 10s of 1000s of people 87 00:05:46,290 --> 00:05:49,710 move through more than 50 buildings. The city has its own 88 00:05:49,710 --> 00:05:53,550 post office Fire Department police force, but as if designed 89 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:57,060 by Kafka, it sits among a forest of trees surrounded by 90 00:05:57,060 --> 00:06:00,630 electrified fences and heavily armed guards, protected by anti 91 00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:04,410 tank barriers monitored by sensitive motion detectors and 92 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:07,770 watched by rotating cameras to block any telltale 93 00:06:07,770 --> 00:06:10,230 electromagnetic signals from escaping the inner walls of the 94 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:13,230 building are wrapped in protective copper shielding. And 95 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:16,260 the one way windows are embedded in it with a fine copper mesh. 96 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,370 This is the unending 97 00:06:17,370 --> 00:06:19,260 giant Faraday cage. Yeah, 98 00:06:19,530 --> 00:06:23,850 this is the undisputed domain of General Keith Alexander, a man 99 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:26,820 few even in Washington would likely recognize Never before 100 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:29,160 has anyone in America's intelligence sphere come close 101 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,300 to a degree of power. The number of people under his command the 102 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:36,570 expanse of his rule, the length of his reign, or the depth of 103 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:40,800 his secrecy, a four star Army General his authority extends 104 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,160 across three domains. He is director of the world's largest 105 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,400 intelligence service, the National Security Agency, chief 106 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,880 of the central security service, that's the CSS John The Hitman 107 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,380 and commander of the US Cyber Command. As such, he has his own 108 00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:59,010 secret military presiding over the Navy's 10th fleet and the 109 00:06:59,010 --> 00:07:04,050 24th Air Force and the second army. Are you kidding me? This 110 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:10,020 guy owns us. It's no wonder the trended to try out his agency. 111 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:15,510 This is all set up to get rid of this guy and and out the the 112 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:18,780 secret. What should we call it? 113 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:23,640 So the SS? Yeah. Well, literally, maybe the Gestapo? I 114 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,150 don't know. 115 00:07:24,690 --> 00:07:27,750 And guess what showed up in the mail here yesterday in the post, 116 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,300 but a CSS challenge coin. 117 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,060 You have a CSS challenge coin. 118 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:36,990 With holy crap with no return address. 119 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:40,260 Hey, whoever said that to me? 120 00:07:40,590 --> 00:07:47,640 No, no, it came to the house. No, no. It came to the house. So 121 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,450 so the CSS has its own challenge. Right. You know, 122 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:54,720 what's his name? We saw the picture of what's his name's 123 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,830 Chuck Hagel, Chuck. Engels got a challenge going just his own. 124 00:08:00,390 --> 00:08:04,680 And now there's this. There's this new guy doing the rounds. A 125 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,160 whistleblower who has been around for six or seven years, I 126 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,670 guess got no traction back in the day this Russell Tice, have 127 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:12,960 you seen him anywhere? 128 00:08:13,470 --> 00:08:15,570 I don't know. I have not seen him anywhere. 129 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:21,330 Okay, so Russell Tice. He first caught my eye on MSNBC where 130 00:08:21,330 --> 00:08:24,990 they kind of don't really even says no, here's what I want to 131 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:27,540 talk about. But they kind of shut him up a little bit. And 132 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:29,940 then he showed up on a couple of podcasts. And that's what I 133 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:32,400 really want to focus our attention on. But first here he 134 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,570 is a quick minute of him. Russell Tice former NSA 135 00:08:37,380 --> 00:08:41,670 employee, he's a whistleblower, then I have to believe that he 136 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:45,780 is now being sent out by the agency to help uncover what 137 00:08:45,780 --> 00:08:49,650 Snowden has had been sent to start. How will that go? To help 138 00:08:49,650 --> 00:08:52,830 squash some of the outrage or confusion that's out there? 139 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,360 Well, I mean, there's a lot of disinformation going on. I've 140 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,990 always said, the situation is much worse. At some point, I'd 141 00:09:00,990 --> 00:09:03,930 like to talk about that. Everything I've 142 00:09:03,930 --> 00:09:06,540 seen here seeds. In the pre interview, they said they said 143 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:09,750 Shut up, you're not going to talk about it's a great catch. 144 00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:11,610 You caught that 145 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:14,250 they fall back to the next line of defense we've seen in 146 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:17,640 previous, the previous director of NSA, and I've seen this 147 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,980 director, they're basically not telling the truth about what's 148 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:23,340 going on. And they look at what's coming coming at them 149 00:09:23,340 --> 00:09:27,330 from Mr. Snowdens information and what's happened in the past 150 00:09:27,330 --> 00:09:30,690 and they just fall back to the to the next line of defense. The 151 00:09:30,690 --> 00:09:34,680 situation is much worse than what's going on. We know how 152 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:39,870 much worse. Well, for instance, NSA today is collecting 153 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:44,670 everything, including content of every digital communication in 154 00:09:44,670 --> 00:09:48,330 this country, both computer and phone, and that information is 155 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:51,540 being stored indefinitely, and that's something that they're 156 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:55,620 lying about. And that facility out there in Utah is online 157 00:09:55,650 --> 00:09:56,340 right now. 158 00:09:57,570 --> 00:10:00,330 And the fact that they have said that they do not do that You're 159 00:10:00,330 --> 00:10:02,640 saying that that's just a flat out lie? 160 00:10:02,940 --> 00:10:03,750 That's correct. 161 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,640 Don't get much further with this guy there. But on the boiling 162 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,610 frogs podcast, he shows up again and again, I'm, I'm quite 163 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:19,740 convinced this he's being sent. But the information that he 164 00:10:19,740 --> 00:10:21,510 gives us is just wow, 165 00:10:21,540 --> 00:10:25,710 they went after. And I know this because I had my hands literally 166 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:29,010 on the paperwork for these sorts of things. They went in for high 167 00:10:29,010 --> 00:10:32,970 ranking military officers. They went after members of Congress, 168 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:36,750 both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence 169 00:10:36,750 --> 00:10:42,900 committees, and on the the armed services committees and some in 170 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:46,050 judicial, but they went after other ones, too. They went after 171 00:10:46,050 --> 00:10:49,440 lawyers and law firms, all kinds of heaps of lawyers and law 172 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,520 firms. They went after judges, one of the judges is now sitting 173 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,360 on the Supreme Court that I had his his wiretap information in 174 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,910 my hand to our former FISA court judges, they went after State 175 00:11:02,910 --> 00:11:06,240 Department officials, they went after people in the executive 176 00:11:06,270 --> 00:11:10,920 and the executive service, they were they were part of the White 177 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,490 House, their own people. They went after anti work groups, 178 00:11:14,490 --> 00:11:19,650 they went after US International Corporate US companies that do 179 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:23,220 international business, you know, business around the world. 180 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:27,150 They went after US banking firms and financial firms that do us 181 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,710 international business. They went after NGOs that like the 182 00:11:31,710 --> 00:11:35,940 Red Cross, and people like that, that go overseas and do 183 00:11:35,940 --> 00:11:42,120 humanitarian work. They went after a few anti war civil 184 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,470 rights groups. So you know, don't tell me that there's no 185 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:50,280 abuse because I've had this stuff in my hand and looked at 186 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,930 it. And I in in some cases, I literally was involved in the 187 00:11:54,930 --> 00:11:58,770 technology that was going after this stuff. And you know, when I 188 00:11:58,770 --> 00:12:02,340 said to Overman I said, my particular thing is high tech 189 00:12:02,340 --> 00:12:04,980 and what's going on, you know, is the other thing which is the 190 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:08,010 dragon that the dragon that is what Mark Klein is talking about 191 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,450 the dragon, the terrestrial dragnet? Well, my specialty is 192 00:12:12,450 --> 00:12:15,030 outer space. I deal with satellites and everything that 193 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:18,240 goes in and out space. I did my spine via space. 194 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:26,370 My favorite kinds of spying, internet, internet bitches. It's 195 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:30,150 going through outer space. I'm liking this guy. 196 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:34,650 Yeah, well, they should drag him out of the woodwork. And he used 197 00:12:34,650 --> 00:12:39,240 to be with the DIA. Yep, the Air Force Intelligence and then the 198 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,960 NSA. And I guess the NSA is the one who set him off. 199 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:49,230 And his. So here's the kicker is the person you spied on in 2004? 200 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:52,800 The big one, I'm giving you any names. This was in summer of 201 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,390 2004. One of the papers that I held in my hand was to was to 202 00:12:57,390 --> 00:13:02,160 wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with was was a 40 203 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,880 some year old. Want to be senator from Illinois? 204 00:13:08,670 --> 00:13:12,840 And, you know, I totally believe this. That makes so much sense 205 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,210 because yeah, you want to have the goods you want to blackmail 206 00:13:15,210 --> 00:13:19,050 everybody. This is exactly what the FBI was initially set up to 207 00:13:19,050 --> 00:13:22,020 do or what what the FBI became, yeah, well 208 00:13:22,020 --> 00:13:24,030 under Hoover, under Hoover, and 209 00:13:24,060 --> 00:13:29,430 it transformed and now the NSA who, really honestly until this 210 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:31,440 probably if you went on the street, and you asked any 211 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:37,260 American about the NSA, they'd be like, what is that? But never 212 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:37,740 heard of it? 213 00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:41,369 So before we go on to the laundry, what do they need? What 214 00:13:41,369 --> 00:13:47,159 is the NSA operation in Maryland need anti-tank barriers for 215 00:13:47,550 --> 00:13:51,360 kids? In case the CIA comes trying to rip them down? This is 216 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:55,800 its own army inside inside the system, John this 217 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:59,789 so they actually showed them the who had who has tanks in the 218 00:13:59,789 --> 00:14:05,219 United States except the guard. Yeah, so they're protecting 219 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:07,679 themselves against the National Guard? Yes, 220 00:14:07,770 --> 00:14:12,750 of course they are. This is this is it's so obvious to me now. 221 00:14:12,750 --> 00:14:16,470 And Snowden is just a little peon in the in the whole game. 222 00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:20,760 And everyone's afraid that this guy he's got the goods on 223 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,280 everybody Kaiser Alexander Heil he's got the goods. He's got all 224 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,800 he's got everyone's little dirty little secrets, because they all 225 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,470 have them. Everyone has a dirty secret. You spying from space? 226 00:14:35,130 --> 00:14:38,550 You don't need to send an email just 227 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,880 That's good stuff. Yeah. Welcome to America. 228 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:49,560 I think I think that we have to be viewing this from a very 229 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,800 different angle to all this Snowden stuff is minor minor 230 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,630 distraction. Just minor. And Glenn Greenwald. I'm not sure 231 00:14:57,630 --> 00:15:01,740 what side he's on anymore. I mean, Does he has nothing better 232 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:05,880 to do in his day than answer the phone from CNN and MSNBC and go 233 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,930 on the air all the time? That's all he seems to do. He this 234 00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:13,410 morning with a nondescript, unimportant woman from CNN, 235 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:17,730 Glenn Greenwald is smart enough to know that no one watches CNN. 236 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:24,360 Seriously, no one watches CNN. And he's just some James Schmoll 237 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:30,300 anchor is grilling him like he's like, he's Greg Snowdens. 238 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:34,680 Manager. This is CNN breaking news, right, gay marriage. 239 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,070 Let's get back to our breaking news this morning. We know that 240 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:41,730 admitted NSA leaker Edward Snowden has left Hong Kong and 241 00:15:41,730 --> 00:15:45,210 reports say he's on his way to Russia right now. But that's not 242 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:48,060 expected to be his final destination. Joining me now on 243 00:15:48,060 --> 00:15:50,640 the phone is Glenn Greenwald. He's the journalist who 244 00:15:50,670 --> 00:15:53,880 interviewed Snowden and broke the NSA story in The Guardian 245 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,060 newspaper. Glenn, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having 246 00:15:57,060 --> 00:15:57,210 me. 247 00:15:57,270 --> 00:16:00,120 Yeah. Thanks for having me. Have you noticed since the Greenwald 248 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,860 is just answering anyone's call? 249 00:16:01,980 --> 00:16:04,890 Yeah, he's on all the time. Why is he doing nothing comes of it. 250 00:16:04,890 --> 00:16:07,170 It's not like he reveals anything interesting. 251 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:09,780 No, but why is he doing this? Is this for his own ego or 252 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:12,510 something? Or what's the point? What is the point of him doing 253 00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:15,120 it? He shouldn't be working on on the story. 254 00:16:16,590 --> 00:16:20,190 He Well, I don't know. As you mentioned, yes. I think he's 255 00:16:20,190 --> 00:16:24,420 always wanted to be a higher profile writer. And I think he's 256 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:27,030 he thinks he's making it this way. What he should have had. 257 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:30,480 See the kicker here, especially for CNN is that he had a book 258 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:34,740 out right now. He should be writing that book. He needs to 259 00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:35,730 be plugging that book. He 260 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:38,520 shouldn't be taking any book throwing a new cover on it. Oh, 261 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,280 yeah. Here's my book. No, 262 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:47,010 no, no. Go go go do some ebooks. 263 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:54,270 Do it. Do it giblet something. Anything? No, it makes no sense 264 00:16:54,270 --> 00:16:58,980 why he's doing this. It makes no journalistic sense. And if and 265 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,970 if we because I really never followed Greenwald you followed 266 00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:06,510 him you had him in high regard. And maybe you still do follow 267 00:17:06,509 --> 00:17:10,229 his tweets and maybes writings Ypsilon I always thought the guy 268 00:17:10,229 --> 00:17:13,799 was uh, had a really good perspective. He's He's a 269 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:16,379 progressive he's like a progressive libertarian, which 270 00:17:16,379 --> 00:17:19,079 is there's plenty of them. In fact, I was thinking about this 271 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:20,969 recently the only difference between the conservative 272 00:17:20,969 --> 00:17:23,939 libertarians you know, the Ron Paul's and those types, and the 273 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:27,659 progressive libertarians are essentially there's two if they 274 00:17:27,659 --> 00:17:32,219 ever can break through these two topics. There's just two topics 275 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:36,809 separating these monstrous groups of progressives and 276 00:17:36,809 --> 00:17:41,609 conservatives. And the two topics are abortion and global 277 00:17:41,609 --> 00:17:45,749 warming. Yeah, those two are the barriers for these two guys this 278 00:17:45,779 --> 00:17:49,229 to be exactly the same. Exactly the same getting together and 279 00:17:49,229 --> 00:17:53,939 changing everything but they can they these phony topics, and I 280 00:17:53,939 --> 00:17:55,799 would say both of them are phony. I think the global 281 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:58,769 warming thing is a distraction bullcrap. And I think the 282 00:17:58,769 --> 00:18:01,949 abortion argument is got nothing to do with politics. No, it 283 00:18:01,949 --> 00:18:03,179 shouldn't be in there. So no, 284 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:07,200 it's only has to do with politics I think. Well, yeah. 285 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:12,240 Well, politics Yeah. But But greenwall I'm surprised because 286 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,700 I of course you know, you respect someone I'm going to 287 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:17,940 give this guy the benefit of the doubt but I'm sorry I cannot do 288 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:20,400 that anymore. It makes no sense. 289 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:23,070 Because he's a media whore. Yes, he's a 290 00:18:23,070 --> 00:18:26,910 total the only reason no, that is the reason and then the whole 291 00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:30,780 setup with the with the stylized video. I mean, he didn't break 292 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:33,330 it the guy didn't go to him the guy went to the to the video 293 00:18:33,330 --> 00:18:36,330 chick or she went to him 294 00:18:36,389 --> 00:18:39,389 actually they also went to the Washington Post way early in the 295 00:18:39,389 --> 00:18:42,089 post wouldn't do anything with the story until Greenwald did 296 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:44,970 right so this whole thing is a little 297 00:18:46,110 --> 00:18:53,820 green Greenwald Greenwald Ringwald. He was kind of a he 298 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:57,270 was kind of the go to guy to get this. Get some attention to the 299 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:59,760 story bring some attention to the story. And then so they 300 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,260 could they could blow it out. Well, did 301 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:05,250 they give him like a bonus to keep doing the same thing? Like 302 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:07,770 go do more. He's like, Oh, do I have to get 303 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:12,330 some little product out of there? You know? No, because he 304 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,600 launched a 30 page interview make it into an e book and sell 305 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,040 it for five bucks. You make some money. 306 00:19:17,070 --> 00:19:22,320 And here's the thing that gets me Where was Glenn in 2008 when 307 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,130 he was writing for salon in 2008. He was covering this kind 308 00:19:26,130 --> 00:19:31,620 of stuff when Sheila buff and I don't know if you saw this this 309 00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:33,510 has been going around the YouTubes I want to make sure we 310 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:36,660 played it. Who was an actor apparently I've never heard of 311 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:42,030 was on the course I don't know these things. was on The Tonight 312 00:19:42,030 --> 00:19:45,390 Show with Jay Leno. I've heard of him promoting the movie 313 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:48,810 EagleEye which I also don't remember if you've seen this 314 00:19:48,810 --> 00:19:49,740 video this clip? 315 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:54,330 No, I don't think so. I remember we had an FBI consultant on the 316 00:19:54,330 --> 00:19:57,090 picture telling me that they can use your ADT Security box 317 00:19:57,090 --> 00:20:00,300 microphone to to get your stuff that's going on your house. or 318 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:03,390 OnStar, they could shut your car down. And he told me that one in 319 00:20:03,390 --> 00:20:06,840 five phone calls that you make are recorded and logged. And I 320 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,400 laughed at him. And then he played back a phone 321 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,160 conversation. I'd had two years prior come on joining the 322 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,430 picture, the FBI consultant. And it was like one of those it was 323 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:15,900 one of those phone calls is like, you know, what, are you 324 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:20,520 wearing type of things? Yes. Is it was mad weird. You mean, they 325 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,760 had a record of you from two years prior to me joining the 326 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,430 pavement being associated with the movie with the movie? Well, 327 00:20:26,430 --> 00:20:33,360 that seems extremely creepy. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. All right. 328 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,930 Well, it's well, it's Wow. That's pretty amazing. Pretty 329 00:20:36,930 --> 00:20:38,940 amazing. I'm trying to think of what the last four phone calls. 330 00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:41,430 Yeah, but uh, 331 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:43,560 so that was 2000. A 332 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,090 lot of being laughed at off. Haha, knew about this all along. 333 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:48,510 Yeah. 334 00:20:50,190 --> 00:20:54,840 And so it's it to me, it's been fascinating to watch how this is 335 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,860 being played. There was a of course, this guy was a 336 00:20:58,860 --> 00:21:04,260 contractor. And I've had a couple of contractors contact me 337 00:21:04,260 --> 00:21:07,380 and say, look, the only thing that the only way the 338 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:09,840 administration really thinks is when you when you sign up as a 339 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,050 contractor, you're essentially signing an NDA. From a legal 340 00:21:13,050 --> 00:21:16,470 standpoint, you're nailed, you're screwed. It's no oath, 341 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:19,800 getting take no oath, just signs a contract, you break the 342 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,290 contract when you throw your ass in jail. That's how they think. 343 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:26,820 So they had a contractor thing up on the hill, and they had the 344 00:21:26,820 --> 00:21:30,660 head of recruitment and everything. And I turned it off 345 00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:33,330 after this statement that in terms of securing classified 346 00:21:33,330 --> 00:21:37,530 information, we just don't have an external problem. We have an 347 00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:42,810 internal one. Today, there are nearly 5 million individuals, 5 348 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080 million individuals inside and outside of our government, who 349 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,390 have been granted security clearances and access to our 350 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:52,830 nation's most sensitive data. 1.4 million hold a top secret 351 00:21:52,830 --> 00:21:56,310 security clearance, given the increasing amount of classified 352 00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:58,500 information produced and maintained by our government, 353 00:21:58,860 --> 00:22:01,170 and the increasing number of folks with access to that 354 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:04,350 information. We have a real problem on our hands if we can't 355 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:08,850 get this right. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. 5 million people have 356 00:22:08,850 --> 00:22:11,640 clearance 5 million. And we're not one 357 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,610 of them in the right. Which is good. Can you believe it? In 358 00:22:17,610 --> 00:22:21,810 that, in that hearing, they also discussed the overall 359 00:22:21,810 --> 00:22:25,770 corruption, which they mentioned a number of times in most of 360 00:22:25,770 --> 00:22:28,680 these agencies, and they discussed it openly. The Office 361 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,570 of Personnel Management is what they were talking about was 362 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:34,680 corrupt. The NSA was corrupt. This was all brought out in 363 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,050 these in this hearing. And 364 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,560 instead, we're on television or watching little airplanes with 365 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,340 red arrows of how Snowden is flying. It's like it's, it's 366 00:22:44,340 --> 00:22:47,850 like a holiday travel itinerary. You kidding me? 367 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:53,370 So now, they say that they don't did, this may not be his final 368 00:22:53,370 --> 00:22:56,220 destination, the Russians got him out, because he probably 369 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:58,620 couldn't have gotten out on anything that didn't have a 370 00:22:58,620 --> 00:23:01,110 Russian logo on the side, because no one's gonna really 371 00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:04,050 take a chance with starting World War Three. 372 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,900 Well, there's a couple things that are not being discussed 373 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:11,700 here in relationship to this. So first of all, this happened on 374 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:16,500 Thursday, where Russia essentially said fu dollar and 375 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:21,720 did a $270 billion deal with China, which will be paid in 376 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,310 rubles or shekels or, or euros or whatever, but it won't be 377 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:30,450 dollars, then the President comes back with a continuation 378 00:23:30,450 --> 00:23:34,650 of the National Emergency on Russian fissile material. This 379 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:38,640 is like you can't ignore these things. It's like Oh, yeah. Oh, 380 00:23:38,670 --> 00:23:41,400 we'll take that. I'm gonna I'm gonna continue my my national 381 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,600 emergency. Because you got nukes. It's back and forth. It's 382 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,270 back and forth. Oh, yeah. Well, we'll take your Snowden guy. 383 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:51,060 Get your Snowden guy right, here 384 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:55,320 he is. What are you gonna do now? You can't ignore that 385 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:55,770 stuff. 386 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:59,760 So the right now there's this little funny battle. So this 387 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,180 notion, of course, is just a pawn in the greater scheme of 388 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:05,430 things, but they're gonna have to get rid of him. So they're 389 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:08,250 going to either on an Aeroflot plane. 390 00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:11,670 Well, I don't know how they're gonna get rid of him. You think 391 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:11,790 he's 392 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:13,890 gonna push them out the door, which has always been my theory. 393 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:16,890 Guess who's going to represent him? 394 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:20,730 Let's fly over Greenland. Now what was it? Who's gonna? Who's 395 00:24:20,730 --> 00:24:21,480 gonna represent Him? 396 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:25,950 The name you sent me two weeks ago before Snowden even came 397 00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:31,020 out? You sent me an email. And you said, this is a name we have 398 00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:35,340 to watch. And I'm like, Who the hell is this? And I put it into 399 00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:41,250 my system. Balto zargar zone? Yeah, he's gonna represent Him. 400 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:44,250 So yet no, this is already out. 401 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:48,540 unless somebody's watching this guy. Because I lost track of him 402 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:50,610 already. Weeks later to 403 00:24:50,610 --> 00:24:55,560 both is our this guy is a gangster. He's a real gangster. 404 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,140 And he's a CIA operative. So I have The feeling that he is 405 00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:07,440 going to be taken to someplace where they can make him pop up 406 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,710 whenever they need him to. Very similar. I don't think he's 407 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:14,340 gonna go kill Assange, although it is still a possibility. But 408 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:18,360 again, this goes on is there's this guy is he's a made man. 409 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,410 He's a total gangster. He's not in jail. So he's being 410 00:25:22,410 --> 00:25:27,330 protected. I would say CIA. NSA doesn't really have that. That's 411 00:25:27,330 --> 00:25:30,600 not really the racket they're in. They just like to send 412 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,820 little notes. Now this in the CSS coins, the coins, I'm gonna 413 00:25:35,820 --> 00:25:41,160 get that coin so it's a beautiful coin. 414 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:42,300 See if it pops open. 415 00:25:46,590 --> 00:25:50,280 It has a whole bunch of it has their whole the whole all that 416 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,970 little motto? They don't have a motto. It's like Shut up or I'll 417 00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:57,270 shoot you. national security. Well, they're part of NSA. 418 00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:58,890 They're the enforcement arm. 419 00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:04,800 It's got the CSS what Central Security Service the CSS CSS, 420 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:09,150 which also makes Cascading Style Sheets. Interestingly anonymous, 421 00:26:09,420 --> 00:26:12,360 and it has a weight I can't quite read it. It's to the 422 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,740 letters are too small. 423 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,060 In old 424 00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:18,960 I can't Yeah, no kidding. I can't read what's on that it 425 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,420 says that says United States 426 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:27,060 are they sell for that coin you holding? sells for 8099 on eBay. 427 00:26:28,650 --> 00:26:31,230 So for some reason he's got they've got the Coast Guard. 428 00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:33,780 SR one that's got a five star on the 429 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:37,710 bat. The five star Yeah, no, I think that's 430 00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:40,290 the blood or the Crips one of the two. One of them has five 431 00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:44,910 stars. Five Points. It's the five tattoo and five point star 432 00:26:44,910 --> 00:26:45,390 that guy's 433 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,720 trouble. But this is a five pointed star. It has the key the 434 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000 crypto key and the torch. 435 00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:53,610 You get like a marine thing and no Coast Guard. 436 00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:58,890 Coast Guard and I've got a horse a night with a gamma horse with 437 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,950 a night top left. Oh right right. Yeah, top left the night 438 00:27:01,980 --> 00:27:06,270 with little with a little North Star. This is like just the 439 00:27:06,270 --> 00:27:12,630 one you keep on you. Yeah, no kidding. Your pockets? Your 440 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:13,080 pockets. 441 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,410 Let me see your wallet. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to drop 442 00:27:19,410 --> 00:27:24,540 that. How awesome is this? Huh? Maybe we should put in some 443 00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:35,370 water Yes, please. And W t mint Northwest territorial mint. Oh, 444 00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:35,610 well. 445 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:36,960 They might be good too. 446 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:41,910 I mean, you think that's screwy? So Miss Mickey her green card 447 00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:45,720 shows up yesterday. This thing now? I wouldn't let her publish 448 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,140 a picture of it because it's got numbers now kind of like this 449 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:52,530 does not do that. Yeah, well I said if you want to do that you 450 00:27:52,530 --> 00:27:56,670 have to blackout up on the back it has so first of all it says 451 00:27:56,850 --> 00:28:00,540 to protect your your to protect your card from being used 452 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:05,970 remotely. Please always carry it in in the supplied envelope. 453 00:28:06,330 --> 00:28:10,980 Right they got a Faraday cage. Surrounded Yeah, cuz people will 454 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:14,430 activate it. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's a problem. 455 00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:17,760 And but the back of it is beautiful because it has this 456 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:23,040 magnetic strip and it has in the magnetic strip. Her picture is 457 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,820 in the magnetic strip. And down below all of the President's 458 00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:32,190 heads. Really miniscule, like smaller than pinheads. It's it's 459 00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:36,750 maniacal is what it is. It's really meant it's like wow. 460 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:38,220 Pile. 461 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:44,430 Well, here's the challenge coin I want. They go on. It's still 462 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:48,330 Osama bin Laden about about Pakistan SEAL Team Six challenge 463 00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:51,420 coin. Wow. Does it come with Bruce St. Six? 464 00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:53,490 Does it come with a one way helicopter ride? 465 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:55,740 No, but it's got a weird you should actually look at this 466 00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:58,740 going and try to tell me yep, very funny. You should tell me 467 00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:03,480 whether what is the meaning of the background being two thirds 468 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,690 green around there's a ring around in the ring around the 469 00:29:06,690 --> 00:29:10,350 thing is got a background as two thirds green and 1/3. White? 470 00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:13,860 I don't even want to talk about that coin. That's not a good 471 00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:14,670 coin to have. 472 00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:19,410 Probably not really. It's not got a GPS device in it. 473 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,120 That's not it's not a good thing. So. So this debate 474 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,750 continues. And and I think that the way I'm viewing it just what 475 00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:31,410 I'm doing is I'm only looking at, okay. Most people in the 476 00:29:31,410 --> 00:29:36,270 media are controlled by the CIA. This all came out with the 477 00:29:36,270 --> 00:29:38,970 church commission in the 70s. This is nothing new. We've 478 00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:43,590 discussed this many, many times. And the NSA there to be dealt 479 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:47,280 with now the CIA, they run a lot of the show as well. But we've 480 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,370 now put Brennan in place and we've taken some lawyer chick 481 00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:53,970 and we've put her in number two. So Obama feels kind of safe. 482 00:29:53,970 --> 00:29:57,090 He's taking the drones away, please. You know, we don't want 483 00:29:57,090 --> 00:30:00,240 anyone to know. We can't have anyone having any drones in This 484 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,720 fight this is not a good idea because he thinks he can control 485 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,870 the military so he's and I'm on the President's side on all this 486 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:10,050 by the way. I think the guy is running scared and he's just 487 00:30:10,050 --> 00:30:13,380 pooping his pants and he's doing whatever he can and he wants to 488 00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:17,340 get he wants to protect Snowden we need to get Snowden in. 489 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:20,460 Because we you know, we need to have him leak more we need to 490 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:25,410 control the guy more information about the NSA, please because 491 00:30:25,410 --> 00:30:30,810 the NSA there, they've got their own fortress with anti tank 492 00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:31,500 stuff 493 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040 is hilarious. Yeah, from what from my Telly have the area 494 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,420 mind? Yeah, 495 00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:38,820 who knows what's going on? So I'm just going to think that 496 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:44,400 everything is pretty much a CIA. CIA operative. And so now we 497 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,710 have on Sky News. I know you and I both saw this, Julian Assange. 498 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:55,290 And Julian Assange is in the Ecuadorian Embassy. We presume 499 00:30:55,290 --> 00:30:58,590 he could be in on the set of another world for all I know. 500 00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:03,180 And he's there with John Perry Barlow, sitting on the couch 501 00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:05,370 hanging out. Are you kidding me? 502 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:09,900 And Barlow and notes saying, Hey, sit up straight. Sit up 503 00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:12,150 straight Barlow. You're not that old 504 00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:15,420 and Barlow. It's so obvious that he's he's an operative for the 505 00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:19,080 CIA. That's right. I said it. You know, that don't trust his 506 00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:24,420 EFF. I don't. Look, I didn't trust them from the day. They. I 507 00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:26,400 reached out to them. They're like, Oh, no, we're not 508 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,220 interested. And Barlow was lying about that. Now he tweeted me. 509 00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:32,700 I'm so sorry. That's the way you remember how it went? We didn't 510 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,570 have the resources to bullshit. You even look at the case. Liar. 511 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,700 CIA liar. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, here's the problem. You 512 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:46,500 know, I, personally, I actually do trust to some large extent, 513 00:31:47,010 --> 00:31:51,120 the people who are running the NSA. Yeah. Okay. What a tell 514 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,960 there, huh? Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure you do, John, some 515 00:31:54,990 --> 00:32:00,900 many of whom I know. Uh huh. And I and I trust the the underlying 516 00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:04,170 faith of the of the Obama administration to 517 00:32:04,260 --> 00:32:08,550 flow, I trust the underlying faith of the Obama industry is 518 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:11,400 what he wanted to say. But then he said, administration, what is 519 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,030 the underlying faith? What does that mean, 520 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,330 I think is what you're kind of suggesting, which is that Obama 521 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:22,080 is a good guy underneath it all. And by the way, I'm not buying 522 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,900 any of this at this point, with Obama being the good guy think 523 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,920 he got caught out? Yeah, he's done. He's done. 524 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:31,260 No, I'm not saying he's a good guy. I said, I feel for him. 525 00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:34,350 He's running scared. He's not running anything. It's not even 526 00:32:34,350 --> 00:32:39,300 the same guy from four years ago. He says the other guy tag 527 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,820 teamed, just like the Mexican wrestlers. 528 00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:48,180 So yeah, what did was why would he complement the NSA? Guide? 529 00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:51,750 Because we I think we can say that there's a there's a turf 530 00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:55,710 war. Yes. Between God knows what groups but we can assume that 531 00:32:55,710 --> 00:32:59,640 the people involved in one way or another would be the FBI, the 532 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:05,220 CIA, the DIA, for sure. The NSA, the White House and and God 533 00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:07,650 knows who else there may be other players. But there's 534 00:33:07,650 --> 00:33:12,930 something running amok and I do believe that the Keith I'm 535 00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:17,280 sorry, Kaiser is Xander Kaiser is which is the better name for 536 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,210 him. Yeah. With his uniform on I didn't realize he's still active 537 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,750 member of the military. Right? You see this? Yeah, who has? 538 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,140 Does this guy get any sleep John, he run, he held this 539 00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:28,710 system. He 540 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:34,410 has ships and airplanes and troops. He has actual, like a 541 00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:38,970 whole panzer division or whatever. I didn't know that. I 542 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:41,220 didn't the guy can order some chips around. 543 00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:46,950 It's pretty amazing. Power. Yeah, that's totally out of 544 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:51,240 control. Now, there was a but there was a couple of Well, 545 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,000 anyway, I have to go get my printout of my clips because I 546 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,320 go go get that. And I'll just play this 40 seconds of John 547 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,690 Perry, collaborator Barlow, 548 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:06,390 and I and I trust the the underlying faith of the of the 549 00:34:06,390 --> 00:34:10,110 Obama and administration team that I think my colleague does, 550 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,890 but 551 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:14,340 but colleague point is that they're they colleague, 552 00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:20,130 colleague, Assange is his colleague. Well, I mean, does he 553 00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:24,480 understand how much he's giving away this Barlow? He doesn't do 554 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,300 a lot of media. I've always wondered about this guy, because 555 00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:30,960 as far as I know, the only the only thing we know him from us, 556 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,750 he wrote like a beside on a Grateful Dead record. And that 557 00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:39,480 was like, oh, it's John Perry. Bardo. He wrote for the Grateful 558 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,400 Dead. Right? Yeah. And what else has he done? How does he make 559 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,000 his money? 560 00:34:45,150 --> 00:34:48,480 He's always hanging around. I O is great guy to hang out with by 561 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:55,020 the way. He is a wreck on tour. Rock on tour. A wreck on tour. 562 00:34:55,050 --> 00:34:58,500 What is a wreck on tour is no rock on tour. He's a wreck and 563 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:04,440 tour rockin tour. us, and He is a poet, which I think is right. 564 00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:07,950 But it's not that just being opposed to somebody that's 565 00:35:07,950 --> 00:35:11,310 that's to be to be. Well, you said it yourself that these 566 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:16,830 poets are dangerous. Hello. Yeah. And he is one and is the 567 00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:19,560 funniest thing but what I like hanging out because you will 568 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:25,020 come up with these turns of phrases or some peculiar way of 569 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:27,720 thinking about something. It's like kind of like what we do on 570 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,170 the show only is poetic. And so it's like, so 571 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:35,670 he gets a deal that he gets laid with it is what you're saying. 572 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:35,970 Oh, 573 00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:37,830 yeah, hold on a second. Let's 574 00:35:37,830 --> 00:35:42,330 just let's look at the CIA controlled book of knowledge. 575 00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:47,310 Hold on a second. That should help. Alright, let's see. 576 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:53,790 American poet and essayist, retired Wyoming cattle rancher, 577 00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:59,430 and cyber libertarian political activist, who's been associated 578 00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:02,460 with both Democratic and Republican parties, also a 579 00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:05,310 former lyricist for the Grateful Dead and founding member of the 580 00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:09,960 Electronic Frontier Foundation. He's been a fellow at Harvard 581 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,950 University's Berkman Center for Internet and Society have been 582 00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:17,880 identified by Time Magazine as one of the School of rocks 10 583 00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:22,140 super smart musicians. Oh, I threw up in my mouth. Excuse me. 584 00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:29,520 Really? So how does he make money on the EFF thing? Must be? 585 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:31,350 Yeah, cattle ranch. No, he's 586 00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:32,820 a retired cattle rancher. 587 00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:35,520 Yeah, he retired on all the wealth that he made from cattle. 588 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:38,730 Okay. All right. I'm sorry. I don't know where he makes his 589 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:46,380 money. And he does have I do remember I was at some function. 590 00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:50,550 I think it was an eff function in San Francisco. And Barlow 591 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:57,600 went off on John Poindexter who I think was working for the evil 592 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,020 he was a former obviously, you know, he's the head of the 593 00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:05,400 National Security Council under Reagan. And he had he has a lot 594 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,130 of connections in the in this in the industry, but I don't know 595 00:37:08,130 --> 00:37:12,900 why I couldn't quite fathom what the point was. And so I'm 596 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,900 wondering because you like to make the claim that he's like a 597 00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:21,510 CIA handler and for Assange. Yeah. Just case. Yeah. Call. Do 598 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:25,320 we know that? I mean, why Why can't he be an NSA guy? No, no, 599 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,850 no, no, my Kenny be a DIA guy. Which makes more sense to 600 00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:30,570 because he's, 601 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,780 well, that's possible. But he's sitting with Assange. He's with 602 00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:38,400 Assange. His colleague, Assange. And he's he's obviously there. 603 00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:42,030 What I mean, he's, he's drinking tea. Are they like strategizing 604 00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:45,120 about how to break him out? I mean, come on. 605 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,510 Pop. Bartel lives over here across the bay. When he gets 606 00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:50,970 back. I'm gonna go have lunch with him and find what the what 607 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:51,690 to do and 608 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:55,590 kick him in the nuts from me. To Hey, this is from Adam. 609 00:37:55,620 --> 00:37:58,530 I have two friends that that seem to not that he seemed to 610 00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:01,230 hate Barlow, too. Well, you don't hate him. You just think 611 00:38:01,230 --> 00:38:01,650 you know, I 612 00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:04,770 just think I just think he's there. That's all Yeah, he lies 613 00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:06,480 to me. He's lied. So done. 614 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:11,370 That's all the other one is. Greg, Zachary Pascal used to 615 00:38:11,370 --> 00:38:14,640 write for the Wall Street Journal. He has some real issues 616 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,270 with Barlow, and if the two of them were I've seen this, the 617 00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:22,080 two of them in the room together it gets one inch away from 618 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,070 becoming a fistfight. 619 00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:25,530 But more importantly, you just call me one of your friends and 620 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,730 that's appreciated. That's the first you might want to retract. 621 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:42,390 Get a deal about 622 00:38:42,569 --> 00:38:45,749 no let's not No, no, no, let's not get a jingle about that. 623 00:38:46,109 --> 00:38:52,619 That'd be another thing. Let's go with middle of the night. All 624 00:38:52,619 --> 00:38:58,619 right. Can I can I play some later place him. So here's a 625 00:38:58,649 --> 00:39:03,329 McLaughlin group again. And the McLaughlin group is just part of 626 00:39:03,329 --> 00:39:08,069 the Staci saucy system, meant to make us feel good about all 627 00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:11,909 this. It's all good. No matter who's doing the spine, rehearsed 628 00:39:11,909 --> 00:39:15,089 and rehearsed and scripted. This is Mortimer what's his name 629 00:39:15,089 --> 00:39:20,579 again? Morgan Freeman. Hey, the guy who's on Berg Mortimers 630 00:39:20,579 --> 00:39:23,039 Zuckerberg Zuckerberg and the old grouch they're, they're 631 00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:27,659 Mortimer Buchanan, no, not Pat Buchanan. Marc Morial grouch. 632 00:39:27,659 --> 00:39:29,669 Oh, the other guy's a grouch, too. 633 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,870 Yeah, more, more, 634 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:32,910 more exactly. Whatever free 635 00:39:32,910 --> 00:39:36,840 who were expelled after 20 years or so having served in that 636 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,340 position that Snowden held. And they were innocent, and they are 637 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:46,710 innocent. And the agreement says are for that for Americans to 638 00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:50,250 read about. So we ought to hold off on judging snow. Do you 639 00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:51,510 agree with us? No, 640 00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:54,540 I do not. I do think what Snowden did is definitely 641 00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:58,590 detrimental to the security of this this American country. And 642 00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:01,860 by that I mean if if The terrorist attacks were in one 643 00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:06,930 form or another, deterred or exposed. Just think of what this 644 00:40:06,930 --> 00:40:09,360 country would be like, if you had one major terrorist attack 645 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,120 like you had in Boston every month in his country, he would 646 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,880 change the whole tenor of life in this country. So it is 647 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,310 absolutely critical for the government to put in enough 648 00:40:17,310 --> 00:40:19,800 security measures to block these. And that's what we're 649 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,960 going to be facing. And it's going to be a very, very 650 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,870 challenging time. But we must find a way to make sure that 651 00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:27,900 terrorist attacks do not become you know, the regular fare of 652 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,750 what this country is going to have to deal with. Oh, yes. 653 00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:31,230 Yeah. 654 00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:34,590 What evidence does he have that this is becoming the regular 655 00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:36,060 fare of anything? Well, he 656 00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:40,650 has the 50 the 50 ways to block your terrorist. That's what he's 657 00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:43,140 basing it on. He said it right there. 50. You know, there was 658 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:46,410 50. So in the course of a year that we want every single week, 659 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080 this is how we extrapolate. What is that? What is the capital of 660 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,710 Ecuador? 661 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,530 Is it a Keto keto keto does with a cue? 662 00:40:56,910 --> 00:41:03,090 Quick Quisha. No, yeah. Quit. No, no. What is it? Itoje. 663 00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:07,140 Quito? Quito, Quito? Yes, keto, keto, paleo, 664 00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:08,669 what I said, all right. 665 00:41:10,020 --> 00:41:13,380 Yes, John. I'm here at the Quito International Airport where a 666 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:15,420 Snowden should be arriving any minute now. 667 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:19,470 Okay, is he coming with his gang of thugs kill Assange? 668 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,560 No, he's coming with a WikiLeaks representative. As you know, 669 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,720 WikiLeaks is now a corporation, they have an entire PR arm and 670 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:32,130 then this fantastic shame meetings with al Qaeda. Yes, 671 00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:36,060 they do. In fact, they seem to share office space, and like to 672 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,760 hang out together at the Starbucks. So we're just 673 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,970 awaiting his arrival here, John, you should can see the arrows on 674 00:41:41,970 --> 00:41:46,170 the screen, as his flight will be here shortly. I'll let you 675 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:47,640 know if we are learning anymore. 676 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:49,950 Thank you, Adam. 677 00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:55,050 He's officially requested asylum in Ecuador. 678 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:02,400 What did I predict? Yeah, no. Wow, gee, we got I just want to 679 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,880 mention, because in the Red Book was recorded, as an aside, if 680 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,140 you remember, from some commentator, who seemed a little 681 00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:13,740 sketchy, who just dropped the two names Ecuador and Iceland, 682 00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:15,870 and Iceland just had a meeting about this, by the way, I don't 683 00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:19,230 know what came of it. But I think they, but I think Ecuador 684 00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:21,330 has always been the target because that's where Assange is 685 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:26,610 going to end up. Yeah. Well, they have to negotiate. And 686 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,710 Assange and this guy are gonna get together and then 687 00:42:29,970 --> 00:42:30,840 but he's still in. 688 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:39,300 Heart attack. Yeah, I sent you that note saying no, there's no 689 00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:44,610 way that guy's a loser. That guy's plant was gonna send me a 690 00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:47,130 note. You already got the note? You're ready to dead by three 691 00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:47,880 shows ago? 692 00:42:49,590 --> 00:42:52,860 Oh, no. He didn't say he was a loser. He just said that. He 693 00:42:52,860 --> 00:42:54,660 hadn't done any special training. 694 00:42:54,930 --> 00:42:59,100 He doesn't know that for a fact. Okay, I know the guy. He's just 695 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:04,320 going on based on news report. Okay. Okay. The guy could be 696 00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:07,740 that he could be, you know, this stealth assassin. You know, 697 00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:10,830 we don't know who anyway. So let's just just back it up for a 698 00:43:10,830 --> 00:43:12,750 second, I'll be done with this topic, because I don't know what 699 00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:17,310 else we can say. All I know is is that WikiLeaks inserted 700 00:43:17,310 --> 00:43:22,740 itself into the process after the fact. Okay, so this wasn't a 701 00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:25,560 WikiLeaks project. It wasn't leaked on WikiLeaks, it went 702 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,670 through the same channels the same same way, because 703 00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:32,520 WikiLeaks, you know, there wasn't all this. Bradley Manning 704 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,820 didn't send stuff to WikiLeaks. It was published on the web. No, 705 00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:38,970 it was published in the New York Times, in built and in The 706 00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:43,020 Guardian, before anything else. And then it was all redacted. 707 00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:46,230 And they talked to the State Department. So we deduced and 708 00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:49,530 concluded that it was clearly some form of psychological 709 00:43:49,530 --> 00:43:53,460 operation, ie CIA. This guy comes out of the woodwork 710 00:43:53,460 --> 00:44:00,870 through a dubious channel, at best, a paid for channel. And in 711 00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:03,870 the WikiLeaks like, oh, yeah, we're tweeting about him. Yeah, 712 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:07,080 we got a representative with him. Like what? Since when 713 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,950 WikiLeaks now has wraps coaches like media coaches, what is 714 00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:15,240 this? I didn't just wake up yesterday and 715 00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:17,040 buy me a coach. Yeah, 716 00:44:17,070 --> 00:44:19,710 I mean, come on. What is weekend? What is wiki pedia now 717 00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:23,820 I mean, the Wiki Leaks What is it now? Is it Assange? Is it a 718 00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:26,910 whole organization who's running it? Where's the office who takes 719 00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:31,110 care of this? Who's the liaison? Or just some to some guy puts on 720 00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:34,140 the WikiLeaks t shirt and says, Hey, I'm here. I'm here to take 721 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:38,250 you. I mean, how does this work? Come on. There's a lot more 722 00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:42,150 going on. And for people that just accept this at face value 723 00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:46,650 and say it WikiLeaks is helping them out. Yeah. No, no, no. 724 00:44:46,770 --> 00:44:53,640 Back when you think Barlow is doing there Ah. I think I just 725 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,970 found it peculiar. You're a news guy. I'm and you know, we both 726 00:44:56,970 --> 00:45:01,380 worked in and around the this business news and you're going 727 00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:03,750 to do an interview with the guy. You're on Skype. This is Sky 728 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:06,840 News where this showed up. Yeah. And so Sky News is going to do 729 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,040 an interview with Assange. So they started off with a two 730 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,970 shot. Now what when is this happened so far with any 731 00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:18,150 interview with Assange? No, usually it's a piece of crap 732 00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:21,870 interview, you know, sometimes on Skype, and sometimes, you 733 00:45:21,870 --> 00:45:24,840 know, with the camera that obviously it's set up shop in 734 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,070 the Ecuadorian Embassy because that was a professional setup. 735 00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:32,130 It was well lit. That it was well, my it was 736 00:45:32,130 --> 00:45:34,740 a horrible shot. You were looking right in their, in their 737 00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:37,110 crotch. It was stupid, his shot ever. I'm 738 00:45:37,139 --> 00:45:39,779 talking about the lighting and the mic, and then they should 739 00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:42,719 give us a two shot that you're bitching about? Well, I'll tell 740 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,689 you what I'm bitching about what's the point of a two shot 741 00:45:45,869 --> 00:45:49,979 with some guy that's got nothing to do with this. Sitting there? 742 00:45:50,369 --> 00:45:56,729 I believe it was to send a message. Yes. And the message. I 743 00:45:56,729 --> 00:46:01,439 don't know what my take away is. Hello, we're from the CIA. We're 744 00:46:01,439 --> 00:46:06,659 still supporting Assange. We're still supporting WikiLeaks, and 745 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,769 we're supporting Snowden. So it could only be a message. I don't 746 00:46:10,769 --> 00:46:11,999 see any other reasons. I 747 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,360 agree. I don't know if that what you use surmise is the exact 748 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,130 message. I mean, it could also mean either that or this guy, 749 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,330 lover will shoot him in a minute. It could be a million 750 00:46:24,330 --> 00:46:26,310 different messages that your message I think is the 751 00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:29,640 idealistic one. It's a good message if it was true. But I'm 752 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,220 not convinced that you know, this is CIA. I don't know there. 753 00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:37,560 But I agree. 100% There's no reason to do that shot. No, 754 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,140 unless it's a message unless it's a message. It's the same 755 00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:42,990 thing with Clooney. And that guy is always hanging around him the 756 00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:46,110 handler, because it's just to let everyone know that Clooney 757 00:46:46,110 --> 00:46:49,560 has not gone off the rails or guys to make sure that clean 758 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,170 doesn't do anything dumb, Pendergrast actor after all, 759 00:46:52,170 --> 00:46:57,420 Pendergrass Pendergrast. That guy, that guy, right. So 760 00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:00,780 I think that the what the message is clear to everyone who 761 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:03,480 needs to know it, you know, this is our guy, 762 00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:06,930 right? It's like the number 33. Yeah, yeah. You know, what it 763 00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:09,900 means to know when it shows up what it means to you at that 764 00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:11,010 moment? We don't know, 765 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,350 again, again, we're not in the loop. 766 00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:16,560 We're just guessing that's what we do. We're gonna We're 767 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,100 guessing in an intelligent way that I think the public needs to 768 00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:22,920 at least have some second thoughts about a lot of this 769 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,680 stuff. And I think that, you know, these kinds of things, 770 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,860 they stand out like sore thumbs. You do not do an interview with 771 00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:32,670 Julian Assange about Snowden with a third party sitting 772 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:34,470 there. You just don't 773 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:41,730 know. No, no, it's it made no sense other than messaging. And 774 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:47,340 Barlow is a great guy. He's very recognizable. And I think in the 775 00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:50,670 intelligence community, he says, I have lots of people. I know 776 00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:55,380 what the NSA Well, isn't that what better reason to sit next 777 00:47:55,380 --> 00:48:00,780 to Assange? And then say, I know people in the NSA, and yeah, 778 00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:04,050 Obama's Okay, the underlying principle. So who's he working 779 00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:10,620 for? Well, I'd say, CIA or maybe dia, but CIA makes a lot more 780 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:15,510 sense. From the wiki from the WikiLeaks perspective, 781 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,650 maybe? Yeah. Because your thesis is that the whole thing is a CIA 782 00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:22,800 operation? Well, it's not meant some level. I mean, I don't know 783 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,620 if the people working there know that. Most people that work for 784 00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:29,730 a CIA operation don't find out until it's like, you know, late 785 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,080 years later to 786 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,830 go what? They read the book, the book, 787 00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:38,310 they found there were stooges. I could have got paid a lot more 788 00:48:38,310 --> 00:48:42,900 money if I know what was going on. Yeah. Keep bastards. All 789 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:47,430 right, well, so I went, I was spending my time on a very 790 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:49,680 interesting and entertaining hearing. Oh, actually, as a 791 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,620 caucus, I'll tell you why when I see one of these things on C 792 00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:56,250 span, I really pay attention because this is the this is the 793 00:48:56,370 --> 00:48:59,730 real deal. This is the thing you really want to watch in its 794 00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:06,120 entirety. And this was a group was called the the congressional 795 00:49:06,270 --> 00:49:10,320 internet caucus advisory committee. They were what the 796 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,660 what? The Congressional internet caucus Advisory Committee, these 797 00:49:15,660 --> 00:49:19,560 things, these are committees that that talk in private 798 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,170 generally, to all the top aides of the congressmen and senators. 799 00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:29,610 Okay, and so you look at the audience, it's all kids. Fart, 800 00:49:30,090 --> 00:49:32,760 right? There's an old guy, I guess the best work I could get 801 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,940 into, but it's mostly young women who are ambitious, and a 802 00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:40,380 lot of guys and policy walks. The place is filled to the gills 803 00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,690 these days, when you get to see one of these, one of these 804 00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:46,410 advisory committees meet over a current event topic. These 805 00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:50,280 things are the people hanging off the rafters, and this was on 806 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,840 NSA data collection. And they had a number of people there. 807 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,740 They had a guy from the CATO they had ACLU woman was a 808 00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:02,670 nervous wreck. They had that The old privacy expert from the DHS 809 00:50:02,670 --> 00:50:06,210 who's now a privacy attorney who led the thing, Mary Ellen 810 00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:10,410 Callahan, and she was very, very interesting. And they discussed 811 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,330 all the all the crap that was going on. And I want to play 812 00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:17,640 just to give you a sense of this, and I can play a couple of 813 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,600 different clips, but the clip that got my real attention is 814 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,340 the actual causes clip, which I have here that discuss besides 815 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:30,780 of besides the obvious FBI lie, they disgusting remember that 816 00:50:30,810 --> 00:50:33,600 they're all the stock market, they're gonna blow up the stock 817 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,350 exchange. Yeah, 818 00:50:34,350 --> 00:50:37,950 this was the guy that they did again entice, and they had the 819 00:50:38,610 --> 00:50:39,030 they had, 820 00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:42,000 it was even more interesting than that this guy, then this 821 00:50:42,030 --> 00:50:46,980 guy speaking is Julian Sanchez from Cato, who has his very east 822 00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:51,900 coast, kind of preppy, weird accent. That was a little off 823 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:56,250 putting, but he's a classic Washington, DC Style Talker. And 824 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,550 he's from Cato, which is a conservative think tank that 825 00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:02,070 doesn't really support any of this stuff, even though the 826 00:51:02,070 --> 00:51:05,010 conservatives in the Republican Party and all the talk show guys 827 00:51:05,010 --> 00:51:09,840 do. But Dave Cato doesn't seem to. He explains all these cases 828 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,930 that were brought out, including one that we never discussed, 829 00:51:13,290 --> 00:51:16,920 essentially, the 50 cases that Kaiser Alexander brought up. 830 00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:20,610 Yeah, he's he says they're all bullshit. They're all bullshit. 831 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,240 And then when you start looking at exactly what that means, you 832 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,760 said well, and how many of those was to 15 actually used, 833 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:30,480 specifically, this metadata program? And it says, well, the 834 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,980 majority, we believe so case six or seven, and then what are 835 00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:37,560 those cases? Well, the cases they describe one involved 836 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,150 finding someone who had been donating money to Shabaab, the 837 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:45,300 Ethiopian terror group and of course, you know, absolutely 838 00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:49,920 find and and prosecute those people. But that's not exactly a 839 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,630 terror plot foiled. And it's not clear in that case, why the same 840 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:57,660 thing could not have been achieved using traditional tools 841 00:51:57,660 --> 00:52:00,840 like subpoenas and targeted pen registers and records orders. 842 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,190 Najibullah Zazi, who appears to have been identified through a 843 00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:08,970 link to a known terrorist email address already being monitored, 844 00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:13,350 whatever use was made up to 15. Later again, not clear why a 845 00:52:13,350 --> 00:52:17,640 more targeted use of that would not have been possible. There 846 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,540 was this other case involving a suppose it plot to bomb the York 847 00:52:21,540 --> 00:52:25,710 Stock Exchange. Was it a serious plot Deputy Director, Sean Joyce 848 00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:29,010 for the FBI says, well, the jury thought it was serious because 849 00:52:29,010 --> 00:52:31,470 they were all convicted. As it turns out, there was no jury 850 00:52:31,470 --> 00:52:34,350 trial, they were not convicted of plotting terrorism. These 851 00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:37,170 were people who were convicted again, of material support for 852 00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:41,700 terrorist organization meeting again, assistance money. And the 853 00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:45,270 New York Stock Exchange plot part of it appears to have 854 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:49,260 involved the fact that the US person involved in this case, 855 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,940 sort of scoped out several tourist targets didn't provide 856 00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:56,250 very useful information that appears to have been abandoned. 857 00:52:56,250 --> 00:53:00,180 The US attorney who worked that case said there was no specific 858 00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:03,870 plot. So I think we should treat with some skepticism as these 859 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:09,600 are the the showpiece cases, they're bringing up to justify 860 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,200 the bulk collection of all Americans phone and possibly 861 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,550 internet records. It's not clear that that is a justification 862 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,250 that passes that cost benefit test. 863 00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:25,650 This is a very important clip you just shared with us John and 864 00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:31,680 because with a $200 million a year budget, the world's news 865 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,470 organization CNN was not able to put together what Kaiser 866 00:53:37,470 --> 00:53:43,260 Alexander said and the facts as they are presented here to say 867 00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:48,030 to present to the world that maybe there's some bull crap 868 00:53:48,030 --> 00:53:48,960 going on here 869 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:54,420 Yeah, I know when I heard that clip I said why I've never heard 870 00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:57,540 this anywhere. I'm listening to it in this caucus. But it's or 871 00:53:57,540 --> 00:54:02,760 this committee and it's like, how hard is it to do just take 872 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,280 that down word for word for it that may turn into a column just 873 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,780 by quoting that guy Oh, 874 00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:12,060 no, no, no, no, no, no, you will not you are not going to write 875 00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:17,340 any column like that. First of all, I will you can put it in 876 00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:20,160 the book right now. You write that column it will get they 877 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,960 will not get published. guarantee it oh yeah, guarantee 878 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,960 it guarantee they will not get published. It'll be something 879 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,130 like Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, you know the iPhone five s is coming out 880 00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:34,890 we had to make we didn't have room for your column this week. 881 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,470 I noticed the internet but we didn't really have space for 882 00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:41,280 sorry. Yeah, now I can guarantee it and I don't want you doing 883 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,040 that because that puts our whole operation in jeopardy. You can't 884 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,020 put that on a legit new site. 885 00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:51,690 Bring it up to a legit market watch you can do that. Right for 886 00:54:51,690 --> 00:54:53,760 market watching where they already got rid of me. Oh, 887 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,180 really? 888 00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:59,190 Thanks to the show. No doubt. Oh, no, man. Oh, now 889 00:54:59,190 --> 00:55:01,470 we have another clip. Let's go into Callahan. 890 00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:04,650 Good clip, by the way, good clip Great Clips. Good clip. Yeah. 891 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,430 No, no, it could be I could give you that posthumously I 892 00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:11,160 haven't seen when it happened. I just wanted 893 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,120 to say that all of these clips are available in the show notes. 894 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:20,820 There'll be five to four.na show notes.com You go to clips and 895 00:55:20,820 --> 00:55:24,300 stuff. And there you can find JCD. And in his little folder 896 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:27,810 there, you'll have all of his clips. And so when you are, you 897 00:55:27,810 --> 00:55:32,430 can even load it on your phone. And then when someone says, and 898 00:55:32,430 --> 00:55:36,000 then we have like 50 strict Anti Terrorist tracks every single 899 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,400 week, it could be like dead from like, people like blown up the 900 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,250 stock exchange. Crash our entire economy has been on when he 901 00:55:41,250 --> 00:55:43,410 wanted the ATMs which are freaking out, man, we can do 902 00:55:43,410 --> 00:55:46,770 this. Hey, we ran this trade a little bit of our security for 903 00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:48,600 liberty or whatever. I don't care if we can't do this 904 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,980 is the opening clip for the show? Mark it down mark the 905 00:55:52,980 --> 00:55:53,340 time? 906 00:55:53,460 --> 00:55:56,520 One hour, one hour on a second. 907 00:55:56,820 --> 00:55:59,160 How did we get to an hour? Like can 908 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,950 we stop your clips and thanks for producers so we can just or 909 00:56:01,950 --> 00:56:02,820 should you want to finish? 910 00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:06,390 We better thanks. Yeah, this is 911 00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:09,480 and in fact, this is how you do it. You do the great opening 912 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,720 tease everyone's all hot and horny for the show. Boom, 913 00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:14,640 bringing the people who pay for the show. 914 00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:18,180 Yeah, in fact that I do have the spreadsheet loaded we do have a 915 00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:20,730 number of executive producers today I want to thank them all 916 00:56:20,730 --> 00:56:24,390 we have where's the one at the top and 917 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:28,830 by the way, hello what this is great value for value we just 918 00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:34,410 gave you something that not a single news organization has 919 00:56:34,410 --> 00:56:37,200 done and we've put it together for you right here you can take 920 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,000 this information say it's bullshit. It's simply not true. 921 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,280 The Kaiser were no close 922 00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:50,010 yeah, no, that's the thing about the those 50 owe the 50 the big 923 00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:54,540 50 You know, as such, it just was you know, I'm really glad 924 00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:59,100 that this guy this Cato guy gave us a real outline in fact one of 925 00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:01,260 them the one the first one about the guy just sending some money 926 00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:04,830 overseas and that's a big terrorist plot. Yeah, like I 927 00:57:04,830 --> 00:57:07,110 did remember like I did send some money to my daughter got 928 00:57:07,110 --> 00:57:10,380 rejected because of Oh terrorist you use foreign language. 929 00:57:11,310 --> 00:57:14,610 Right? Yeah, exactly. That's very funny, by the way. Are we 930 00:57:14,610 --> 00:57:16,980 have some the number of executive producers to think we 931 00:57:17,010 --> 00:57:19,620 maybe had a call out for some extra ones. They all get credit 932 00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:24,810 for today and July the fourth. Gary Blad 524 member the 524 933 00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:27,450 club now nice ITM figured out what had been a boner long 934 00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:31,020 enough didn't and time to be a don't in time. I wouldn't have 935 00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:34,800 been a donor long enough and time to be a donor of Boehner. 936 00:57:34,830 --> 00:57:37,950 Nevermind, I'd like some karma for my wife who's getting ready 937 00:57:37,950 --> 00:57:39,300 to write her first solo book. 938 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:42,930 Oh, lovely. I'm behind you. That's great. Send a Copy with 939 00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:44,670 pictures shot karma. 940 00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:51,300 Wayne, Pennsylvania Dwayne sir Dwayne Melanson Hall, Mandy had 941 00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:59,190 the head of all Oregon. He's the Baron FOR 4469 69 IN THAI guard, 942 00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:03,390 Oregon, ITM Jan's removed and reinstalled my Chrome plugins 943 00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:05,160 and comments now work on pay, pal. 944 00:58:05,790 --> 00:58:09,270 Ah, so it's a chrome issue. Interesting. 945 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,780 So here's three fours for the fourth, and a little Suazo 946 00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:15,420 enough at the end. I know that show has been better, the show 947 00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:18,540 has been better than ever lately. Also keep it up or keep 948 00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:19,290 it up. I'm 949 00:58:19,860 --> 00:58:23,040 sorry, Joe, and keep it up. Keep that thing up. All right. 950 00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:26,880 Mike dukedom and I want lots of territory where you end up with 951 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,570 a West Coast. 952 00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:32,100 California screw and we're gonna throw in Mexico just for the 953 00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:32,430 hell of 954 00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:36,930 it. Rock and roll Fleeman it to nine one and he deals already 955 00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:39,210 executive producer and Roth Lehmann will be an Associate 956 00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:41,220 Executive district 29185 957 00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:45,330 Hold on a second. I need to ask you a question here. I saw that 958 00:58:45,330 --> 00:58:49,830 you made a special offer. Yeah. On double producer ships. 959 00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:52,620 Yeah, I said that is when I just started reading these names. 960 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,690 Wow. July the fourth printing I'm 961 00:58:54,690 --> 00:58:56,790 sorry. I was keeping it up. I'm sorry. 962 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,960 Yeah, we get to these people all get a double produce. Got it. 963 00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:04,230 Got it. Okay. I'm sorry. I had to do something because it was 964 00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:05,730 things were not looking at. 965 00:59:06,509 --> 00:59:11,009 It was it was a Hail Mary is what it was a Hail Mary. A good 966 00:59:11,009 --> 00:59:11,339 one. 967 00:59:11,609 --> 00:59:15,389 So Rob Lehmann in Switzerland. I don't know have a note from him. 968 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:17,790 Is he one of the layman brothers? 969 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,900 Well, it seems unlikely although he is in Switzerland. That's 970 00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:26,340 what I mean. Rolf layman special double producer Happy Birthday 971 00:59:26,340 --> 00:59:30,600 to me. Oh, that's interesting. Well, let's do this part. Let me 972 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,060 read this for me even though my birthday is a day away eight 973 00:59:33,060 --> 00:59:39,030 days away. cumulate it is now reason number 66666. Okay, let 974 00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:41,670 me read this. Even though my birthday is eight days away I 975 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:44,460 felt the compulsion to donate some money accumulate with my 976 00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:49,050 previous donations by knighthood meters now reached six six dots 977 00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:53,100 six six. Nice. Please put me on the birthday list for next 978 00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:56,130 Sunday because June 30. We will never remember this put him on 979 00:59:56,130 --> 00:59:57,270 today's birthday list. He's 980 00:59:57,270 --> 01:00:00,900 on today's list, but he has to get on again for the have never 981 01:00:00,930 --> 01:00:02,040 written this will never work. 982 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,980 Yeah, we do. We can't do that because we don't have any 983 01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:09,210 brackets. We don't know there's no mechanism we can't unless we 984 01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:10,380 tried to remember it. 985 01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:12,390 It's not going to work. I mean, 986 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:17,730 me he was a doctor Kiki yet seems like the donation service 987 01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:24,870 can handle a lot. My hometown is called regions vias and it's 988 01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:27,210 located in the beautiful Lake Zurich which is I've been 989 01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:31,380 there's nice all the best of my favorite to podcasters keep up 990 01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:34,260 with the crack pottery and Buzz killin the Sheriff of Zurich. 991 01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:35,190 That's what he's headed for. 992 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,080 So he wants to Dr. Kiki a karma or just the Dr. Kiki or what 993 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,500 does he want? He 994 01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:46,410 wants a karma. Let's face it already. You've got karma. 995 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,420 All right. Thank you. 996 01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:54,660 We need more Swiss donors. I mean, those are this role of 997 01:00:54,660 --> 01:00:57,960 money is that's the that's the that's kind of the ELB Alberta 998 01:00:57,990 --> 01:01:05,040 of Europe. Yeah. Zoom. Zoom. And zoom. Is there. Zoom. Elizabeth 999 01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:10,950 Bowser and Burroughs en Bora Zan in Tucson Arizona. 269 69. 1000 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:16,440 Pronounce please don't rainstick my upcoming NorCal chip and 1001 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,620 kudos fund is going to rain tomorrow. And kudos to Adam for 1002 01:01:19,620 --> 01:01:24,150 his ability to pronounce my last name JCD. Not so much. 1003 01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:27,120 First of all, she says hi gents. You missed the whole beauty of 1004 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,470 it. Miss Heil. Heil. Gents. borrows on. 1005 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:37,530 Charles Jordan, or Jordanne to 2222 out of Milwaukee, 1006 01:01:37,530 --> 01:01:41,490 Wisconsin. Thanks for reaching out to me Foundation. bar.com 1007 01:01:41,490 --> 01:01:46,080 Milwaukee's best my tie. I know. I get I actually gave the I gave 1008 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,400 our upcoming night a phone call actually has a night. Oh really? 1009 01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:53,160 Is a double night, I think maybe get two or three years, 1010 01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:57,390 something like that. And yeah, because he's he was irked about 1011 01:01:57,390 --> 01:01:59,700 something. So I called him up and calmed him down and then I 1012 01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:00,390 found and then 1013 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,310 wait a minute. Wait, who is this? This is Charles. Wait. So 1014 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:06,930 here's our guide. You're 1015 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,390 lucky you might tell us a bar guy. Hey, 1016 01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:11,850 Charles, calm down. That we didn't 1017 01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:18,120 know I actually gave him the tip to use a little splash of Oh, 1018 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:26,070 Cali. How a a Hawaiian booze based on the tea plant tea i 1019 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:29,880 that is used as a secret ingredient in many my ties in 1020 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,510 Hawaii. 1021 01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:33,540 Oh, and was the end? He had not heard of this. 1022 01:02:33,630 --> 01:02:37,050 This? No, no, but he's on it. He's got apparently a brother or 1023 01:02:37,050 --> 01:02:40,020 someone who's just combing Hawaii for recipes. 1024 01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:42,330 And have we have we worked everything out with him. I mean, 1025 01:02:42,330 --> 01:02:43,170 is he Yeah, yeah. No, 1026 01:02:43,170 --> 01:02:46,470 he's good to go. Good. Chris spears. And 1027 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:47,520 that's super service. Can 1028 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,160 we can we just is there a dog? It's just not something I 1029 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,120 commonly do. Well, is 1030 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,130 there a donation level where that we can get you to call? 1031 01:02:53,790 --> 01:03:00,690 Yeah, I'd say 222 22 I'll give you a call. Hey, there, thanks. 1032 01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:06,930 gonna work great. I love it. I think you can do this on Mondays 1033 01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:08,220 we can fit it into your schedule 1034 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:17,850 on the phone. Hi, I'm John. Hey, hey. All right, Chris spears in 1035 01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:19,740 Austin, Texas to 20 to 20 that 1036 01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:23,310 is actually right up the road from me. I would think 1037 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,600 crees please credit Mr. Bobo the nickname I use in the chat room 1038 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,360 in the Morning John and Adam from a technical expert whose 1039 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,120 job keeps them constantly away from Austin. I hope this small 1040 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,780 bit of value for the value they provides funds fight GL lovely 1041 01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:39,240 Thank you. Sir SEMA. 1042 01:03:39,540 --> 01:03:40,860 See your SEER sama? 1043 01:03:41,130 --> 01:03:46,230 Seer sama in Portage, Indiana. Or it was in France to be 1044 01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:50,190 Portage to 19 This show has been fantastic lately. Keep up the 1045 01:03:50,190 --> 01:03:52,260 great work we get a lot of compliments that way. Thank you 1046 01:03:52,260 --> 01:03:55,950 sir. Borislav Marin off in Aliso Viejo California tuner bucks. 1047 01:03:56,550 --> 01:03:59,220 You had a 50th anniversary a couple of days ago. Can you send 1048 01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:01,050 some obedience karma to my wife? 1049 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,900 Oh, hold on a second. I think I know what he means. Okay, here 1050 01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:08,280 we go. We'll send it from you 1051 01:04:08,310 --> 01:04:11,970 will obey you will obey. You will obey 1052 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,110 you've got karma. And you know, I'm 1053 01:04:16,110 --> 01:04:20,520 sure that'll work out just fine. Hey, nice knowing you. Todd and 1054 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:26,430 Kathleen in Iowa Davenport to be exact tuner bucks. ITM thanks 1055 01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:29,970 for the weekly email updates. Keep them coming. Thanks for 1056 01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:32,220 watching more C span than we do. You're welcome. 1057 01:04:32,819 --> 01:04:35,609 Yeah, the family that gives together loves together. 1058 01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:42,240 I think so. Sir Alan Bose in Langley, British Columbia. 200 1059 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,450 bucks psoralen Bose here although this makes me a 1060 01:04:45,450 --> 01:04:49,200 Baronet. I'm planning a no agenda meet up on the Norwegian 1061 01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:52,800 Pearl cruise ship this February during the spring song at sea 1062 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:58,740 bluegrass and or chiamo Americana music cruises. No 1063 01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:04,980 agenda at live dot ca for details. No agenda@live.ca 1064 01:05:05,009 --> 01:05:07,379 He has half the room to sublet for these cruises. If you're 1065 01:05:07,379 --> 01:05:08,129 interested 1066 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,370 in underwriting I'd advertise. All right, Sarah sounds good to 1067 01:05:14,370 --> 01:05:18,630 me, Robert Gosh, go and Sherwood Park, Alberta 200. Keep up the 1068 01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:21,870 great work the best podcast and universe Varun Rob BA. Thank 1069 01:05:21,870 --> 01:05:28,770 you. Jerry are sorry, Jeffrey kayam. I'm guessing kaboom. I 1070 01:05:28,770 --> 01:05:28,950 am. 1071 01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:31,080 I think I am. Yeah. To me. 1072 01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:36,240 I have very little money, but I want you to have it. Otherwise, 1073 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,420 I would have to listen to the news. And that would surely kill 1074 01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:39,750 me. 1075 01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:44,760 I would there was a whole report I was reading was a funny 1076 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,440 report. And I actually I should have sent it to you. That it 1077 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,440 turns out the people who have less donate more. 1078 01:05:53,610 --> 01:05:57,810 Yeah, it was Dave nicey. This. I know what the repeated this has 1079 01:05:57,810 --> 01:06:00,240 been studied. Yeah. There's a lot of people that will that are 1080 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,050 very generous. And it's typically the as opposed to some 1081 01:06:04,050 --> 01:06:05,820 people who have a lot of wealth on their cheat. 1082 01:06:05,850 --> 01:06:09,060 Yeah. And they're cheap. The cheap asses. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1083 01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:13,320 Surprising. Yeah. Thank you, Jeffrey. 1084 01:06:13,350 --> 01:06:17,250 Appreciate it. Anonymous and Springfield, Virginia. 200 hours 1085 01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:21,720 and Janet waters in Indio, California. She says she sent a 1086 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:27,690 note. ITM boys giving a shit once again. Janet waters Indio, 1087 01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:35,070 California, John that's in do not India. I don't. I never said 1088 01:06:35,070 --> 01:06:38,670 India. Did I you remember seeing in my deal 1089 01:06:38,790 --> 01:06:42,420 in all the hours that we talked together? I really remember very 1090 01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:42,930 little. 1091 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,050 Yes. Do you? I don't remember. Maybe I said I didn't dead fish. 1092 01:06:46,050 --> 01:06:49,200 So I apologize profusely. I want to thank these people. All of 1093 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,240 the producers that we've renamed now. 1094 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,700 Good. Whoa, I wanted to thank did you get an award? 1095 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,560 Yeah, I got the best podcaster in the known universe. 1096 01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:04,500 Hold on a second. How can that be like as you get the same 1097 01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:07,470 award got the best podcaster in the known universe award. 1098 01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:12,570 You said that these are the Bollman awards, I believe. It's 1099 01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:15,690 I want to say, downstairs, I have to get it. 1100 01:07:16,590 --> 01:07:20,190 I got it. It's a Dan Dan Baumgardner. 1101 01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:25,860 Yeah, the bomb Gardner award, won a Baumgartner Award. He came 1102 01:07:25,860 --> 01:07:29,280 Halloween. I'm gonna put it on my resume. Me too. It's on the 1103 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,780 IMDB 13. Baumgartner worker podcast best podcaster. in the 1104 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:38,190 known universe by now it is as good an award as any other as 1105 01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:41,580 any of the other bull crap awards that are given away. I 1106 01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:44,520 love it. Mickey came home. She went, Wow, what's that ugly 1107 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:49,380 thing? And she looks as best podcaster to say, Oh, honey, you 1108 01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:55,890 finally have an award. And then she put it away. On the mantel. 1109 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,960 Yeah. Well, that's what she did. She put it on my bookcase. I'm 1110 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,630 like, Hey, hold on. I was still enjoying it. I was still basking 1111 01:08:00,630 --> 01:08:06,990 in the glow. The glow of the kitchen table. We have guests 1112 01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:13,530 coming. It's got three stars. Yeah, it's beautiful. I want to 1113 01:08:13,530 --> 01:08:18,360 thank Dan for that. But that was pretty funny. And I would like 1114 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:24,420 to profusely thank all of our executive producers, who get a 1115 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:27,150 double credit along with our Associate Executive Producer. 1116 01:08:27,150 --> 01:08:29,700 This is great. And also nice to see that we have a five to four 1117 01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:33,420 club member this does not happen very often. Really, really 1118 01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:35,790 appreciate that because it was not looking good. And John 1119 01:08:35,790 --> 01:08:38,010 throughout the Hail Mary and everyone stepped up and that's 1120 01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:41,220 great. And it's great when people actually support the show 1121 01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:43,710 and say that they think they're getting the value for not just 1122 01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:46,860 like, Oh, you like we're like some dude on the corner of the 1123 01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:52,230 highway. You know, it's like a, which by the way, we're only two 1124 01:08:52,230 --> 01:08:53,400 paychecks away from that. 1125 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,570 Two shows away he shows away from that guy. 1126 01:08:58,079 --> 01:09:01,949 I also want to thank Martin JJ who provided the artwork for us 1127 01:09:01,949 --> 01:09:05,399 two weeks in a row Martin JJ has been doing the album artwork 1128 01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:09,959 fantastic. No agenda art generator.com. And I would like 1129 01:09:09,959 --> 01:09:14,819 to mention that the ITM dot i m URL shortener has gotten an 1130 01:09:14,819 --> 01:09:20,819 overhaul. And it's a very useful wagon. And it's a nice you can 1131 01:09:20,849 --> 01:09:27,119 get a bookmarklet even go to ITM dot i m and you know, that's 1132 01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:31,829 kind of a signal for just about everybody. I see an item that I 1133 01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:36,269 am linked to like, Oh, this is gonna be worth it. So I suggest 1134 01:09:36,269 --> 01:09:37,079 you use that. 1135 01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:40,410 And I'm gonna start using it. I haven't been using it. I 1136 01:09:40,859 --> 01:09:43,289 think you should and you can get the bookmarklet so you just drag 1137 01:09:43,289 --> 01:09:46,499 that I'll tell you how that works. John, you drag that in, 1138 01:09:46,499 --> 01:09:46,859 hold 1139 01:09:46,860 --> 01:09:49,410 on. Let me get a pen. 1140 01:09:51,630 --> 01:09:56,340 And an oh, by the way, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. 1141 01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:58,860 Oh, in the morning, do you Adam curry and also in the morning 1142 01:09:58,860 --> 01:10:01,620 all the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs 1143 01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:04,050 in the water. And all the days and nights out. Dan, I want to 1144 01:10:04,050 --> 01:10:06,660 remind everybody after reading this list that they should go to 1145 01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:10,530 divorce.org/and A child of org.com/and aid, no agenda 1146 01:10:10,530 --> 01:10:13,560 show.com Go ahead and click on the donate button also no agenda 1147 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,130 nation.com which will have a similar button. And help us for 1148 01:10:17,130 --> 01:10:18,930 the next show, which is on Thursday thrived. 1149 01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:21,660 And of course, we have a formula you can always go out there and 1150 01:10:21,660 --> 01:10:26,040 help us out by propagating it to others. Our formula is this. We 1151 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,380 go out. We hit people in the mouth 1152 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:44,820 you will obey you will like to say in the morning to all of the 1153 01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:47,790 human resources in the chat room. nogen stream.com. No one 1154 01:10:47,790 --> 01:10:54,720 didn't. chat.net and Mars will say hey to Mr. Oil, sir. Mr. 1155 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:59,580 Oils are good. Most slaves are 19 interact Boyd zero everyone 1156 01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:04,860 who helped keeps the show on the air. Which is certainly Virginia 1157 01:11:04,860 --> 01:11:06,810 as like a million people. I can't thank them all. I 1158 01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:10,650 can't thank him enough from the kids. That's first, that's for 1159 01:11:10,650 --> 01:11:15,660 sure. Do you want to continue here with your little, 1160 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,200 let's go, we're gonna go back to the caucus. And again, this is 1161 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,830 the stuff that is being told to the walks that work for the 1162 01:11:22,830 --> 01:11:25,590 various representatives of the senators will never show up to 1163 01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:28,260 these things. But they're there and they don't know anything 1164 01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:31,230 anyway, they're idiots. So but their aides if they have sharp 1165 01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:33,690 aids that go to these events. And this is the kind of thing 1166 01:11:33,690 --> 01:11:36,990 that when I see one of these I am glued to it because I know 1167 01:11:36,990 --> 01:11:39,300 I'm going to get stuff that's going to show up and policy 1168 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:41,370 statements is going to show up in the congressional hearings is 1169 01:11:41,370 --> 01:11:45,030 going to show up. But the one that was I thought this Callahan 1170 01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:53,160 woman, ex DHS woman, she made the commentary on on damages to 1171 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,970 the American image. And it I thought was quite quite good to 1172 01:11:56,970 --> 01:11:57,840 our image. 1173 01:11:58,350 --> 01:12:01,320 Interesting. And I'm going to use a little discretion and just 1174 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:06,210 talk. I have three points that I want to highlight one having 1175 01:12:06,210 --> 01:12:11,010 gone to 20 EU member states to talk about government 1176 01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:14,220 information sharing and my role is the US Department of Homeland 1177 01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:16,380 Security's Chief Privacy Officer where Okay, 1178 01:12:16,410 --> 01:12:20,340 can I just say something for just an observation? She's 1179 01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:21,690 really full of herself. 1180 01:12:22,620 --> 01:12:29,010 She's a very happy woman to her 1009 I'm so incredibly. 1181 01:12:30,930 --> 01:12:33,420 I said, Oh, don't worry, business record rules are only 1182 01:12:33,420 --> 01:12:38,490 used 21 times in 2009 and only use 96 times in 2010. I'm going 1183 01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:40,800 to tell you the relationships with the European Union and with 1184 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,120 the European Commission are likely irreparably damaged. I 1185 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,910 used to go and say no, no, believe me, no, don't worry, 1186 01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:50,970 it's gonna be fine. And they say we don't believe you. You lied 1187 01:12:50,970 --> 01:12:53,820 to us about Guantanamo, you lied to us about rendition. So now 1188 01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:55,950 they've got a third one in there. So I think that our 1189 01:12:55,950 --> 01:12:59,160 relations with the European Commission, particularly the non 1190 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,360 national security portion of it is going to be a problem. And 1191 01:13:03,390 --> 01:13:06,270 candidly, our relationship with European citizens is going to be 1192 01:13:06,270 --> 01:13:10,140 a problem. I also think that the concept of trust in government 1193 01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:15,300 and the concept of transparency has been harmed, and that the 1194 01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:17,910 particularly the nine name companies, but at the same time, 1195 01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:21,540 the other elements where the other companies are operating 1196 01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:24,780 the space will have a cloud over their their heads of saying, 1197 01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:27,600 Well, are you participating in this? How much are you giving? 1198 01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:31,620 What is the access? It seems to be awfully clear. So I think the 1199 01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:34,620 point on transparency that has been a theme among my panelists, 1200 01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:38,250 is going to have to be a be an element that we've got to 1201 01:13:38,250 --> 01:13:41,490 develop because to affect the internet economy, you know, 1202 01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:44,640 something in privacy, I call it the ick factor. You can't define 1203 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,420 it, but people go check that see, that seems icky to me. And 1204 01:13:48,420 --> 01:13:52,350 I fear that the ick factor may color both the private sector 1205 01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:55,290 economy as well as the government use of this data. 1206 01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:58,200 Oh, four minutes, I thought that there was going to be a real 1207 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,260 problem. Like people didn't want to watch Superman Man of Steel 1208 01:14:01,260 --> 01:14:02,850 or the Kardashians. Oh, we got 1209 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,720 cynicism is funny, because there was one guy everybody kind of 1210 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,700 agreed with her. But there's one guy at the end. He says, Well, 1211 01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:10,350 I'm gonna play the devil's advocate. And I'll just 1212 01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:12,390 summarize his answer. Listen to another one of these. These 1213 01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:17,400 clips are long. He says, you know, it's a lot of lip service. 1214 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,390 Because these governments and you're in the EU, they love our 1215 01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:25,890 data. We're sharing with them. We're trading data and the 1216 01:14:25,890 --> 01:14:29,880 public. They're idiots. They're just a bunch of slaves. They 1217 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:30,540 don't care. 1218 01:14:31,860 --> 01:14:33,930 Wait, does it do you have this clip form? No. 1219 01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:37,080 I'm just summarizing what his real story. He didn't say 1220 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:42,450 slaves. I'm just saying the way Oh, and what damage is being 1221 01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:46,080 done to Google? People are still using it. Nobody cares. No 1222 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,820 exaggerated. It is. 1223 01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:50,160 That's what I thought for a second. i Oh, my God, people 1224 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,560 won't be they're going to stop using Google. They're going to 1225 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,730 stop watching. You know, we were at we were at Halcyon yesterday. 1226 01:14:57,810 --> 01:15:02,160 And it was it was very funny. Some friends of ours, who we 1227 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,330 haven't seen in a while, we only we don't know that super well, 1228 01:15:06,330 --> 01:15:08,970 but we're, you know, we're, we're getting to know him quite 1229 01:15:08,970 --> 01:15:13,290 well. I like him a lot. He's a lobbyist here in Austin. And but 1230 01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:16,260 he's, he's a funny one. You know, he's like He actually He's 1231 01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:19,800 perfect for no agenda, because he knows he's in a totally evil 1232 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,660 business and he doesn't really feel good about his wife, his 1233 01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:30,660 wife who is sick. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Now his wife. She's, she's 1234 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,860 a fascinating woman. She looks like Cleopatra Jones. She's, you 1235 01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:37,230 know, she's got the fro. She's black. She's got the fro. I 1236 01:15:37,230 --> 01:15:40,320 mean, he just wants Ah, he's expected to pull a gun on you at 1237 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,500 any minute. But I don't know what happened. But also and he's 1238 01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:48,780 like, can you believe they named that child cadence? Like, what 1239 01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:53,850 are you talking about? And it took me awhile it dawned on me 1240 01:15:53,850 --> 01:15:58,290 she was talking about the I guess the thing was that they 1241 01:15:58,290 --> 01:16:03,360 had to come up with a que name for Kanye and Kim's kid. Yeah. 1242 01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:07,020 Did you know this? They can do nothing, you know that they call 1243 01:16:07,020 --> 01:16:09,390 the cadence? Yeah. Wow. 1244 01:16:09,930 --> 01:16:13,560 I think it was I mean, I just I couldn't not avoid finding out 1245 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,440 because the way the way I'm doing searches I will get 1246 01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,470 ramping up is like the top distraction of the week. And 1247 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,420 Derek's Wow. 1248 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:24,390 We went to see movie. 1249 01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:28,260 Star Trek or night Sarge, I mean, the new Superman. 1250 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:34,680 No, no. And now there's a documentary out. And it is a pro 1251 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,150 nuclear documentary. 1252 01:16:36,180 --> 01:16:37,920 Oh, yeah. This movie. 1253 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:41,910 Do you know what the title of it is? 1254 01:16:42,090 --> 01:16:44,910 It's called by nukes today? Correct. 1255 01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:48,210 It's Pandora's Promise. Yeah. And it was playing in one 1256 01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:51,390 theater here in Austin. So in about 20 minutes or alternative 1257 01:16:51,390 --> 01:16:54,300 distribution system where the about five theaters in the world 1258 01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:58,620 get to play the movie when it shows up on Link TV at two in 1259 01:16:58,620 --> 01:17:00,150 the morning and then that's the end of 1260 01:17:00,150 --> 01:17:04,110 it. Well, so this documentary was playing at a Cineplex and we 1261 01:17:04,110 --> 01:17:07,530 go there yesterday only two people in the room well, 1262 01:17:07,530 --> 01:17:12,540 we went there and the place was packed. No hacked I tell you 1263 01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:15,660 yes. Because The Bling Ring was playing next door that's the 1264 01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:16,710 Paris Hilton movie 1265 01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:19,530 poster. All these gorgeous grounds there were to get a free 1266 01:17:19,530 --> 01:17:20,610 showing to this. No, 1267 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,910 no, no, I'm what I'm saying is the Cineplex was packed. 1268 01:17:24,420 --> 01:17:27,420 Oh, just send it back. Okay, you're confusing me. 1269 01:17:28,230 --> 01:17:30,720 You're being such a shit about the movie won't even get my 1270 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,560 review. I'm gonna trick you. Yes, we were the only two people 1271 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,710 in the theater. This has never happened to me. We were the only 1272 01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:38,520 two people 1273 01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:42,120 where the movie was playing that was packed. The Bling 1274 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:48,270 Ring, you know, the Paris Hilton movie. And so so we're in this 1275 01:17:48,270 --> 01:17:51,810 now and Mickey, oh god, I love this woman to death. Because if 1276 01:17:51,810 --> 01:17:54,420 we had not wanted to see this, we would have walked out after 1277 01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:58,320 20 minutes. We would have walked out after the ads. I can't 1278 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,740 believe they wasted actual electricity on showing ads to 1279 01:18:01,740 --> 01:18:05,640 us. Because we were the only two people. I mean, we were making 1280 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,040 comment hooting and hollering because there wasn't there was 1281 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,150 no one in the theater. And still every 15 minutes some dude would 1282 01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:17,970 come by to make sure we were obey. No Pandora's Promise, 1283 01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:22,650 which was financed by a couple of Silicon Valley people Richard 1284 01:18:22,650 --> 01:18:27,900 Branson's in there. The budget was about 1,000,005 Let me tell 1285 01:18:27,900 --> 01:18:32,130 you not only should they have given that money to us because 1286 01:18:32,130 --> 01:18:35,850 we make we have done better for the nuclear movement pro nuclear 1287 01:18:35,850 --> 01:18:39,330 movement on this show than this movie ever. Will. They need to 1288 01:18:39,330 --> 01:18:44,250 take that movie burn every single print burn every poster? 1289 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,480 pretend it never happened ever. It is it is the worst piece of 1290 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:55,350 crap. I could not believe it nuclear energy is over if they 1291 01:18:55,350 --> 01:19:00,660 don't realize how wrong this movie was, and it's filled with 1292 01:19:00,660 --> 01:19:04,620 great facts it really is with nothing that you haven't heard 1293 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:09,390 on this show previously, but it is and I'm convinced that there 1294 01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:13,620 was someone in there who was actually evil and putting stuff 1295 01:19:13,650 --> 01:19:17,550 into make you still kind of second guess. It was like a 1296 01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:20,430 bunch of academics sat down like really Oh 1297 01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:24,000 Jesse was strict by the way. What that's a good trick. 1298 01:19:24,030 --> 01:19:28,200 Well, but if they gave us another million to re edit it 1299 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,260 get Woody Harrelson didn't know voiceover to get a Woody 1300 01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:35,070 Harrelson to do a voiceover their main their main character 1301 01:19:35,070 --> 01:19:38,190 was Stuart Brand. Okay, Stuart 1302 01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:40,530 Brand, the whole earth guy. Yes. 1303 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,560 So the idea was the idea the premise was first of all 1304 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,470 PANDORA'S PROMISE is like you're expecting I got the shits gonna 1305 01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:49,410 fly off the screen. I'm gonna want to go out and put a 1306 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:53,400 backyard nook in this is going to be great. The premises? 1307 01:19:53,670 --> 01:19:58,290 Here's these environmentalists who are extremely anti nuke all 1308 01:19:58,290 --> 01:20:02,670 their life and they They are taken on a journey, which we 1309 01:20:02,670 --> 01:20:05,820 never see their journey. And they're never positioned because 1310 01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:09,750 it says Stuart Brand, editor, founder of Whole Earth Catalog, 1311 01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:14,700 like anyone under 50 knows what that means. It's a stupid. And 1312 01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:16,830 then there's a couple other guys, so there's no positioning 1313 01:20:16,830 --> 01:20:21,960 of who they are. And, and, and there's no real journey that it 1314 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:28,620 got so bad, where instead of and by the way, it's distributed by 1315 01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:31,950 CNN films, which is why it sucks so bad why it sucks complete 1316 01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:35,970 balls, because instead of showing what's actually going 1317 01:20:35,970 --> 01:20:38,760 on, which is the public are being indoctrinated and tricked 1318 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,180 into thinking that nuclear is like bombs, and you're going to 1319 01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:47,670 die by the media, because the media is doing it. And they're 1320 01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:51,090 doing it mainly for whorish reasons because it's sexy to you 1321 01:20:51,090 --> 01:20:54,000 know, who are the fish are gonna be irradiated? Oh, we're all 1322 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,320 gonna die. And they have all the counterpoints neatly lined up in 1323 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,650 the movie. Instead of doing that they actually at some point 1324 01:21:01,650 --> 01:21:05,730 said, Well, it's very coincidental that the same 1325 01:21:05,730 --> 01:21:09,180 language that is used against nuclear energy is what the 1326 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:12,450 global warming skeptics use. Oh, like, 1327 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:14,610 oh, you kid at that end? 1328 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,000 But are you kidding me? It's like, you just you just turn to 1329 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:23,070 me? Of course it is. You just turned me into a hater. Now, let 1330 01:21:23,070 --> 01:21:25,140 me just tell you a couple things that were great in the movie. 1331 01:21:25,950 --> 01:21:28,950 Some things that, that I think they did very well. So they 1332 01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:32,430 spent the money on traveling, they went to Chernobyl. And they 1333 01:21:32,430 --> 01:21:35,490 took a Geiger counter, which at this point, the movie is so 1334 01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:38,790 poorly made, you're thinking the Geiger counters, fake, you know, 1335 01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:42,180 they're on the airplane, they're showing background radiation, 1336 01:21:42,180 --> 01:21:45,660 the airplane is, you know, 20 times higher than on the ground 1337 01:21:45,660 --> 01:21:48,630 and Chernobyl. They're giving you the real facts. They're 1338 01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:51,450 showing you the documents from the World Health Organization 1339 01:21:51,450 --> 01:21:55,650 and from unscarred and all them because most people think a 1340 01:21:55,650 --> 01:21:58,770 million people died from Chernobyl, and where it was 1341 01:21:58,770 --> 01:22:01,860 really like 20. And, you know, then they were in, you know, and 1342 01:22:01,860 --> 01:22:07,380 maybe 500 people died earlier, but it was like a weapons grade 1343 01:22:07,380 --> 01:22:10,920 thing, you know, it wasn't protected. It's all these things 1344 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,610 that are completely unknown. No one dialed died from Three Mile 1345 01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:17,730 Island, then they show Fukushima, where, you know, 1346 01:22:17,730 --> 01:22:21,060 there's no radiation, you know, and, and I'm not even gonna 1347 01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:24,750 fight this because they had such an opportunity to do this, 1348 01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:27,090 right. And they show France where the French are just 1349 01:22:27,090 --> 01:22:29,760 laughing at us because 80% of all their energy is from 1350 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,820 nuclear. So they get all these beautiful things they show the 1351 01:22:33,330 --> 01:22:37,500 the actual amount of all the nuclear waste in the United 1352 01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:40,650 States, all of it if you put it all together and I believe the 1353 01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:45,240 fact it would fit on one football field, and the amount 1354 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,740 of nuclear energy that is hot on nuclear waste that is hot, would 1355 01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:55,230 fit on 1/10 of one yard line of all ever used ever produced and 1356 01:22:55,230 --> 01:22:59,850 then and they show you know how a breeder reactor reuses fuel 1357 01:23:00,030 --> 01:23:02,730 and then the best thing and this this is where it freaked me out 1358 01:23:02,730 --> 01:23:07,620 was like that someone sabotage this. So they've got this Do you 1359 01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:12,570 remember the IFR? Reactor this was I think 94 Maybe or yeah 1360 01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:13,740 must have been night kitbag. They 1361 01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:16,620 remember I think we even talked about it. No, no, no. 94 I 1362 01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:19,080 mean, we certainly weren't talking about a man. No, 1363 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,440 no, I think we talked about, you know, this technology. So they 1364 01:23:22,440 --> 01:23:22,710 had the 1365 01:23:22,710 --> 01:23:26,880 IFR reactor and Kerry was the guy the only the only showed him 1366 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:31,830 I like a C span clip of him kibosh ng the IFR reactor. And 1367 01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:33,840 what they did is they showed these tests where they cut all 1368 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,420 the power, every power, you know, they they everything was 1369 01:23:36,420 --> 01:23:40,260 caught off, you know, no backup generators, nothing and and this 1370 01:23:40,260 --> 01:23:43,680 thing shuts itself down. And then they you know, they they 1371 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,950 pull the plug on like the water or whatever thing shuts itself 1372 01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:50,520 down completely. It shuts itself down. That's the technology of 1373 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,810 the IFR reactor. And a meltdown is impossible. I mean, we've 1374 01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:57,720 talked we have talked about this on the show. But then the guy 1375 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:03,240 who did it, who is now now 60s 70 years old, and he's 1376 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,460 saying yeah, no, no, we we showed it. We had the press 1377 01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:08,070 right there and the thing shut down. We did this this thing 1378 01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:11,520 shut down. And then the interviewer asked him, so this 1379 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,450 thing could never melt down. And the way the guy answered, he was 1380 01:24:15,450 --> 01:24:20,490 like, No. I was like, oh my god, couldn't you ask the fucking 1381 01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:25,140 question again? And put it in put it I mean, Mickey and I 1382 01:24:25,140 --> 01:24:28,410 looked at each other and like that wasn't very convincing. It 1383 01:24:28,410 --> 01:24:32,400 was like the money shot of the movie. And then they leave that 1384 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,660 in there. Now. This was sabotaged. It's a piece of crap. 1385 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,580 And they should never spend to send that money to us. Please. 1386 01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:44,340 We could do a million a half annual budget. That'd be really 1387 01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:48,360 nice. And Wilson will spread the facts about nuclear energy. This 1388 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:55,110 was so sad. And we would have walked out if if it hadn't been 1389 01:24:55,140 --> 01:24:59,070 didn't have to watch it for the show. No. So you sacrifice 1390 01:24:59,070 --> 01:25:03,270 yourself You could have gone next door to watch the Paris 1391 01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:04,140 Hilton movie. 1392 01:25:04,770 --> 01:25:11,640 Yeah. But it also it was I was so sad. I was so incredibly sad 1393 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,410 that here's this opportunity. They're in a real movie theater. 1394 01:25:16,530 --> 01:25:19,260 I mean, you can't even put if you put this online, you know 1395 01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:22,710 how you know how people are like, Oh my God, you got to see 1396 01:25:22,710 --> 01:25:25,770 this video, no one will even send it to you. It's so crap. 1397 01:25:27,180 --> 01:25:30,720 I mean, you ever hear from it again? Well in. So they made a 1398 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,730 movie with a million dollar budget, and they're not going to 1399 01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:34,170 make money on it. That's great. 1400 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,930 And then it's not about making money. They're not going to 1401 01:25:36,930 --> 01:25:38,040 convince anybody. 1402 01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:41,520 There was the whole thing. It seems like a fiasco is a total 1403 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,270 fiasco. And they talked about backyard nukes the possibility 1404 01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:48,300 that you can make a little bitty thing very out just that could 1405 01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:49,020 power your 1406 01:25:49,170 --> 01:25:52,170 whole house and just just touched on it lightly. 100 1407 01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:57,660 years, John, I'm telling you, we could take the raw material, get 1408 01:25:57,660 --> 01:26:01,020 Woody Harrelson do the voiceover. And we could turn it 1409 01:26:01,020 --> 01:26:03,630 into a blockbuster. But you'd have to put in all this stuff to 1410 01:26:03,630 --> 01:26:07,830 show how the media is lying. And of course, the Will It will not 1411 01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:10,710 get distributed in theaters, it will not get any promote. Not 1412 01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:14,280 that it's getting any promotion now. It would be great. But the 1413 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,490 nuclear industry, there's this there's money in this industry, 1414 01:26:17,490 --> 01:26:20,130 right? I mean, there's hundreds if not billion 100 Millions, 1415 01:26:20,130 --> 01:26:25,230 billions of dollars being spent on nuclear and nuclear industry. 1416 01:26:25,530 --> 01:26:32,070 Are you guys insane? Are you out of your fucking minds? This 1417 01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:35,220 you've got the definition of renewable energy. By the way, 1418 01:26:35,250 --> 01:26:38,280 love the little tidbit in there that all of these wind farms and 1419 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:42,450 solar farms, they all have gas gas pipes running up to them 1420 01:26:42,450 --> 01:26:45,870 because they all have the basically gas fired 1421 01:26:45,870 --> 01:26:50,130 installations in disguise. I thought that was pretty cool. 1422 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,410 I don't know anything about this yet. 1423 01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:55,020 Neither did I. So you have a wind farm. But of course, when 1424 01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:58,320 the wind is not blowing, you still want to produce some 1425 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,420 energy. And then they open up the gas pipe and then the 1426 01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:04,020 turbines are rolling. And basically, it just selling gas. 1427 01:27:04,050 --> 01:27:06,810 I didn't know that either. It's it that was a revelation to me. 1428 01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:10,860 That if you look at all the wind farms and solar farms, almost 1429 01:27:10,860 --> 01:27:13,320 all of them have a gas fired plant right there on the 1430 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,620 premises to make up for you know, when when the sun's not 1431 01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:20,070 shining, or the winds not blowing. So there was tons of 1432 01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:23,100 good information, but it was completely sabotage and I can't 1433 01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:27,630 believe and they never really made the point that Hello. We 1434 01:27:27,630 --> 01:27:31,980 live in a petrochemical world. The oil and coal industries are 1435 01:27:31,980 --> 01:27:35,850 so huge, they own everything. They own the media, they own all 1436 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:38,460 of the politicians. They couldn't even bring themselves 1437 01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:43,380 to say it, let alone insinuated. No, it was the global warming 1438 01:27:43,470 --> 01:27:48,510 the global climate change deniers. Stupid, stupid, stupid 1439 01:27:48,510 --> 01:27:52,980 idiots, stupid. Now, the creative work Consulting Group 1440 01:27:52,980 --> 01:27:57,270 is of course available to at any time. Should you want to know 1441 01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:57,690 how to do 1442 01:27:57,690 --> 01:27:58,650 this listed. Yeah, 1443 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,390 we're in the book. 1444 01:28:01,980 --> 01:28:05,550 Send us an email. We're ready to go real time. Yeah. 1445 01:28:05,580 --> 01:28:10,230 So that is a very disappointing, very, very, very, very 1446 01:28:10,230 --> 01:28:12,750 disappointing, because, you know, I'm pro nuke. 1447 01:28:14,970 --> 01:28:16,650 I'm pro backyard nuke. Yeah, 1448 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,760 well, we're never gonna get there at this rate. No, never, 1449 01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:22,590 never sad. 1450 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,780 No, you were right. By the way. There was a good job of getting 1451 01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:32,640 the Hastings story off the front page. It's like now gone. Oh, 1452 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:36,630 yeah. So that's the end of that. Yeah. And then they give him a 1453 01:28:36,690 --> 01:28:39,540 little snide, they sniped at him in the New York Times, which I 1454 01:28:39,540 --> 01:28:41,340 thought was funny with his obit 1455 01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:44,070 I might I might, oh, I might have the clip of the day you 1456 01:28:44,070 --> 01:28:46,650 give me the obit what's the Well, I 1457 01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:51,090 have a clip of the obit. Nice when she got to Hastings 1458 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,740 Hastings journalist Michael Hastings is firing back at the 1459 01:28:55,740 --> 01:28:59,040 New York Times after the paper published an obituary that left 1460 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,400 a sour taste in readers mouths. The Times obituary had cast 1461 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,190 doubt on the accuracy of Hastings profile of General 1462 01:29:05,190 --> 01:29:08,940 Stanley McChrystal. It read an inquiry into the article by the 1463 01:29:08,940 --> 01:29:11,310 Defense Department Inspector General the next year found 1464 01:29:11,340 --> 01:29:14,100 insufficient evidence of wrongdoing by the general his 1465 01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:16,770 military aides and civilian advisors. The inspector 1466 01:29:16,770 --> 01:29:19,500 general's report also questioned the accuracy of some aspects of 1467 01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:21,600 the article, which was repeatedly defended by Mr. 1468 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,050 Hastings and Rolling Stone. Zack, what do you make of this? 1469 01:29:25,050 --> 01:29:27,390 Do you give the benefit of the doubt, to Rolling Stone? 1470 01:29:28,650 --> 01:29:30,960 Certainly, I mean, if you go through the inspector general 1471 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,320 report that they're referring to there, of course, the Inspector 1472 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,900 General doesn't confirm every last detail that Michael 1473 01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:39,090 Hastings gotten his report because the people who said 1474 01:29:39,090 --> 01:29:41,730 things that were inflammatory and controversial in the report 1475 01:29:41,940 --> 01:29:45,240 aren't just going to turn around and tell the IG Yes, I did that 1476 01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:47,850 and the military should fire me for doing so why is that the 1477 01:29:47,850 --> 01:29:50,400 only way to corroborated surely the inspector general talks to a 1478 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,820 third party study? Certainly I think so. And if you go through 1479 01:29:53,820 --> 01:29:57,510 the report, you can actually see that people the IG actually says 1480 01:29:57,690 --> 01:30:00,750 in many in many circumstances, we've confirmed The basic 1481 01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:03,030 substance of the exchange took place but perhaps not in the 1482 01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:06,660 precise context in which in which Hastings portrayed them. I 1483 01:30:06,660 --> 01:30:09,720 think it's absurd to look at an IG report and say okay, it's 1484 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,080 supposed to corroborate every detail of an incredibly damning 1485 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,710 story about about the government. The the IG is, is 1486 01:30:16,770 --> 01:30:19,740 trying to, you know, find get get to the truth of these 1487 01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:22,500 things, but they're conducting an investigation after another 1488 01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:26,040 journalistic investigation has taken place, the evidence is 1489 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,860 going to be different a year or several months after the actual 1490 01:30:28,860 --> 01:30:31,410 story comes out. And that's basically what the IG report 1491 01:30:31,410 --> 01:30:34,110 said, I think the times is really grossly mischaracterizing 1492 01:30:34,110 --> 01:30:36,450 this and has grossly mischaracterized it for a long 1493 01:30:36,450 --> 01:30:39,270 time as a report that somehow cleared McChrystal and the 1494 01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:41,430 military leadership in Afghanistan of any of the 1495 01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:44,310 charges that actually took place that were that were launched in 1496 01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:47,010 the Hastings piece, why would the time to do it? Are they just 1497 01:30:47,010 --> 01:30:49,050 mistaken? Or do you think that they're just turning to a 1498 01:30:49,050 --> 01:30:52,830 political military line? You know, it's hard to know. I mean, 1499 01:30:52,830 --> 01:30:54,990 as a journalist, I will say, if it really does suck when you 1500 01:30:54,990 --> 01:30:57,540 cover something for a long time, and then some punk comes in and 1501 01:30:57,540 --> 01:31:03,480 just blows up all your reporting and better job than you. Yeah, 1502 01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:05,760 and that that's what you know, you get your clock clean like 1503 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,380 that, you just kind of suck it up and say, Well, that was a 1504 01:31:07,380 --> 01:31:10,680 great story and move on. The Times really seems to have 1505 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,170 really, this has been the editorial position of the 1506 01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:15,480 newsroom for a long time. You know, the, the piece they have 1507 01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:18,870 on the IG report, which is years old now, still says, you know, 1508 01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:22,380 IG report clears McChrystal. I mean, that's not what the IG 1509 01:31:22,380 --> 01:31:25,980 report did. So I think I think the edit for whatever reason, 1510 01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:28,710 the Times just has journalists that have interpreted the scene 1511 01:31:28,710 --> 01:31:31,200 a lot differently than than Hastings and Rolling Stone have 1512 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,170 and and, you know, they could write whatever obituary obituary 1513 01:31:34,170 --> 01:31:36,630 they want. I think, ultimately, most people remember the 1514 01:31:36,630 --> 01:31:39,120 Hastings piece, and the Hastings piece had a lot more impact on 1515 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,790 the public debate, rather than the obituaries and maybe an obit 1516 01:31:41,790 --> 01:31:43,830 is not the place to air that sort of stuff anyway, 1517 01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:47,640 right? Yeah. So the times are happy. They're like, oh, good 1518 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,570 riddance to that a hole. Exactly. Yeah. So here's a 1519 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:58,470 here's a clip from two January 2012. When Hastings released his 1520 01:31:58,470 --> 01:32:03,960 book he was promoting it on. I think this is Russia today. And 1521 01:32:04,230 --> 01:32:08,760 he was still young and hopeful and chipper and enthusiastic 1522 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,280 journalists full of idealistic views. 1523 01:32:11,610 --> 01:32:13,980 It almost seems like anytime someone comes out and says 1524 01:32:13,980 --> 01:32:16,980 something that goes against the the mainstream narrative, 1525 01:32:17,220 --> 01:32:20,670 they're exiled as some sort of a heretic. Yeah, I don't see that 1526 01:32:20,670 --> 01:32:24,990 really changing, do you? I think, Well, I think the way to 1527 01:32:24,990 --> 01:32:25,590 change this, I 1528 01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:29,610 mean, in the back in the day, if you did something like this, I 1529 01:32:29,610 --> 01:32:31,830 would have been hammered and buried. But now there's enough 1530 01:32:31,830 --> 01:32:34,200 other outlets out where you can act, who will defend you who 1531 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,050 will put you on TV, who puts you on the radio show? 1532 01:32:37,110 --> 01:32:39,510 Who will support you on Twitter, Facebook's out there social 1533 01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:41,820 media. So there is I think there's opportunity for the sort 1534 01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:45,000 of golden age to kind of resist against this, but it's an 1535 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,240 uphill, it's an uphill battle. You know, I mean, the lesson, 1536 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,520 the reason why the response was so severe, in my case, or in a 1537 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,580 case, like WikiLeaks with Bradley Manning, and Julian 1538 01:32:56,580 --> 01:33:00,300 Assange, is because they want to set an example they want to show 1539 01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:02,670 Oh, no, you can't do this. You can't actually report what 1540 01:33:02,670 --> 01:33:06,270 powerful people say, you can't. You can't try to write as 1541 01:33:06,270 --> 01:33:08,100 accurately and as truthful as possible with these people. 1542 01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:11,340 Because if you do, you will be exiled. But that's that's no 1543 01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:14,040 longer the case. And in fact, what I've tried to do and show 1544 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,650 with this book is look, I'm still alive. I'm still standing 1545 01:33:16,650 --> 01:33:19,260 to heaven, but a drone strike out on me yet I'm not in Gitmo. 1546 01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:24,330 You know, I yet yeah, no, I How sad is that? That's terrible. 1547 01:33:24,330 --> 01:33:25,050 What a clip. 1548 01:33:25,530 --> 01:33:28,050 They haven't put me in getting more them for the drone strike 1549 01:33:28,050 --> 01:33:29,250 on me. I haven't killed me 1550 01:33:29,250 --> 01:33:33,150 yet. Yeah. And now he's dead. Oh, my. Yeah. 1551 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:40,140 Yeah, this is, uh, now, I have received several reports. And 1552 01:33:40,170 --> 01:33:43,170 this, of course, is all you know, oh, it's crazy conspiracy 1553 01:33:43,170 --> 01:33:48,600 theory talk. But the word is that this possibly could have 1554 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:55,230 been a small drone strike. And if you look at the 1555 01:33:56,340 --> 01:34:00,330 well, before you go on, I want to report these words. Because 1556 01:34:00,330 --> 01:34:03,330 I've got to like, read through all these things, as many as I 1557 01:34:03,330 --> 01:34:07,770 could. And all the reports from that neighbors said it sounded 1558 01:34:07,770 --> 01:34:13,500 like a bomb went off explosion exact now. Now. I live in it on 1559 01:34:13,500 --> 01:34:16,890 a hill where there was a terrible intersection and not an 1560 01:34:16,890 --> 01:34:21,390 intersection, but a freeway, an exit that had a route. They took 1561 01:34:21,390 --> 01:34:27,480 it out. But it had routinely had one or two wrecks a week where 1562 01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:30,540 somebody was drunk or they were going too fast. And they tried 1563 01:34:30,540 --> 01:34:34,020 to get off on this exit. And they just plow into the pole. 1564 01:34:34,050 --> 01:34:38,430 Right. And it happened week after week. And it has and I can 1565 01:34:38,430 --> 01:34:42,300 also hear Rex on the fray. There's a distinctive sound to a 1566 01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:45,900 car crash. That is not an explosion. 1567 01:34:46,350 --> 01:34:48,780 Right? It's in fact it's Yeah, exactly. 1568 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:53,850 Say oh car wreck. very distinctive, so So when all 1569 01:34:53,850 --> 01:34:56,760 these witnesses are saying Oh, I'd sound like an explosion. 1570 01:34:56,790 --> 01:34:58,890 Yeah, I thought the car was had a bomb in it. 1571 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,750 could've had a bomb in it. Well, here's here's. So I got a lot of 1572 01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:06,540 and from some of our younger producers, actually who sent me 1573 01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:10,380 academic speeches, videos on YouTube, and you can go watch 1574 01:35:10,380 --> 01:35:13,350 the whole thing. Here's one minute from the from this is 1575 01:35:14,220 --> 01:35:19,170 Steven, check away from University of California, San 1576 01:35:19,170 --> 01:35:24,990 Diego. And all the work that they did. This is 2011. On 1577 01:35:24,990 --> 01:35:29,040 compromising automobiles through multiple, multiple ways. We have 1578 01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:29,880 vehicle to vehicle 1579 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,290 communications for things like crash avoidance. The final 1580 01:35:34,290 --> 01:35:37,200 category that we considered was long range wireless 1581 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,050 communication. We're here we're looking we're considering 1582 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,290 attackers who are able to send signals over miles or even at a 1583 01:35:43,290 --> 01:35:48,900 global scale. So we have a bunch of digital radio signals like HD 1584 01:35:48,900 --> 01:35:52,860 radio or satellite radio that can transmit over a number of 1585 01:35:52,860 --> 01:35:58,860 miles. And telematics units are becoming common in basically 1586 01:35:58,860 --> 01:36:03,030 every car, every manufacturer either has one or is making one. 1587 01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,450 And these are used for things like roadside assistance or 1588 01:36:06,450 --> 01:36:11,970 automatic crash reporting. So now, I'm going to talk about 1589 01:36:11,970 --> 01:36:14,880 several of these that we actually attacked. In 1590 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,850 particular, we were able to compromise the diagnostic tool, 1591 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:22,050 MediaPlayer, Bluetooth and cellular. And to be clear, every 1592 01:36:22,050 --> 01:36:25,170 single one of these that we looked at led to a complete car 1593 01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:28,200 compromise doing everything that we showed in the previous work, 1594 01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:31,980 including doing things like disabling the brakes. So 1595 01:36:33,810 --> 01:36:36,510 this is a great speech, you got it, you got to see this thing. 1596 01:36:37,410 --> 01:36:41,820 And definitely watching by just as an adjunct to these clips, or 1597 01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:46,110 this concept, play that clip. Does the FBI use drones? Oh, 1598 01:36:46,290 --> 01:36:47,880 yeah. You learn? Yeah, Mueller. 1599 01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:51,870 Does the FBI owner currently used drones? And if so for what 1600 01:36:51,870 --> 01:36:56,880 purpose? Yes. And for surveillance? Does the FBI use 1601 01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:04,380 drones for surveillance on US soil? Yes. I want to go on to a 1602 01:37:04,380 --> 01:37:07,140 question. Well, let me just put it in context. Eleanor are very, 1603 01:37:07,140 --> 01:37:08,970 very minimal way. 1604 01:37:12,630 --> 01:37:17,400 That's right. Only one car at a time. And minimal way, minimal 1605 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:18,600 way. But like the way he 1606 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,030 says yes, and then starts thinking about his answer. He 1607 01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:21,660 goes out of here. 1608 01:37:22,620 --> 01:37:26,760 So the shadowhawk is what is being suggested the shadowhawk 1609 01:37:28,380 --> 01:37:32,550 might be the kind of drone that could carry can be weaponized, 1610 01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:36,720 just enough to blow up a vehicle. And with certainly one 1611 01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,840 that is has its brakes disabled, and maybe the accelerators being 1612 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:45,690 punched down. I mean, I'm sorry. Call me a conspiracy theorist. 1613 01:37:45,780 --> 01:37:49,650 You're a conspiracy theorist. You're crazy as I 1614 01:37:49,650 --> 01:37:54,090 am, keep it up. But if someone gives you a CD and says, Hey, 1615 01:37:54,270 --> 01:37:59,940 play that in your car, don't do it. That is one of the ways 1616 01:37:59,940 --> 01:38:02,970 that's exactly what this speech is about, is that they could 1617 01:38:02,970 --> 01:38:08,580 burn a w m a file that would play perfectly. But the minute 1618 01:38:08,580 --> 01:38:12,360 you put it in your car player, it releases a virus that causes 1619 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,330 a core dump and boom, they've gotten a hold of the entire 1620 01:38:15,330 --> 01:38:19,740 system. It's kind of scary 1621 01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:23,730 that you know, the, especially like forage have this. They're 1622 01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:24,180 using 1623 01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:25,770 ixnay on the Ord fe. 1624 01:38:26,850 --> 01:38:27,720 They're using 1625 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,950 Microsoft But that's after 2005. Right? 1626 01:38:32,610 --> 01:38:33,780 I don't know when they start using. 1627 01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:39,570 We don't have please, please say yes, yes. Adam after 2005. Yes, 1628 01:38:39,570 --> 01:38:39,810 Adam 1629 01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:43,500 after 2005 I believe if we don't 1630 01:38:44,850 --> 01:38:48,030 we don't have the time to sink touch or whatever we don't have 1631 01:38:48,030 --> 01:38:51,570 done. What do you got? You have a big long curve. Yeah. Yeah, 1632 01:38:51,570 --> 01:38:53,940 we got the big clunker with the old school with a really big 1633 01:38:53,940 --> 01:38:54,630 knobs. 1634 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,430 Okay, well, that's probably okay. 1635 01:38:56,460 --> 01:39:03,120 Yeah. Yes, thank you. Now, this horrible. It's just totally, 1636 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,430 totally horrible. He was here's DARPA. 1637 01:39:05,610 --> 01:39:08,820 Good afternoon. Right. So we've been hearing a lot today about 1638 01:39:08,820 --> 01:39:11,970 the importance of improving computer security. As Dan just 1639 01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:14,100 alluded to, though, it's not just traditional computers that 1640 01:39:14,100 --> 01:39:16,230 we need to worry about. There are many other kinds of systems 1641 01:39:16,230 --> 01:39:21,450 as well. The slide that's been omitted, showed a result of the 1642 01:39:21,450 --> 01:39:24,390 researchers at UCSD and the University of Washington hacking 1643 01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:28,800 into the dashboard display of a typical American sedan, making 1644 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,490 it show that the car was going 140 miles an hour while in park. 1645 01:39:33,210 --> 01:39:35,370 Drilling down a little bit modern vehicles consists of 1646 01:39:35,370 --> 01:39:37,980 between 30 and 100 embedded control units, which are 1647 01:39:37,980 --> 01:39:41,700 essentially small computers connected via Canvas. These cars 1648 01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:44,850 are required by law to have a diagnostic port, typically 1649 01:39:44,850 --> 01:39:47,790 located under the steering wheel that allows mechanics to 1650 01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:51,360 download diagnostic information and to perform software updates. 1651 01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:54,600 In the first paper, the researchers from UCSD and the 1652 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,210 University of Washington showed that if they could touch the 1653 01:39:57,210 --> 01:40:00,570 canvas to that diagnostic port, they could take over or all of 1654 01:40:00,570 --> 01:40:02,820 the functionality of the car that's controlled by software. 1655 01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:06,180 And in a modern automobile, that's pretty much everything. 1656 01:40:06,750 --> 01:40:08,910 The brakes are controlled by software because of antilock 1657 01:40:08,910 --> 01:40:12,000 braking. The acceleration is controlled by software because 1658 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,790 of cruise control. And those fancy new cars that can park 1659 01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:17,430 themselves, even the steering is under software control. 1660 01:40:19,529 --> 01:40:22,619 knifes said, I don't think we have to go any further. 1661 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:27,570 Well, how about this? Remember when they had all these Toyotas 1662 01:40:27,570 --> 01:40:31,740 that were going out of control the celebration that this was 1663 01:40:31,740 --> 01:40:35,400 actually just a test run of some people trying to hack into these 1664 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,990 systems and getting you know making mistakes? And and is it 1665 01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:43,290 never made any sense? It was going on for a movie? Everyone 1666 01:40:43,290 --> 01:40:46,500 remembers this? It never gets revisited by the media. No, the 1667 01:40:46,500 --> 01:40:50,100 Toyotas were going out of control day after day. And 1668 01:40:50,670 --> 01:40:54,600 let's be specific Toyota Prius. Yeah, they were they were just 1669 01:40:55,230 --> 01:40:58,500 with car of your typical Obama bot. 1670 01:40:59,550 --> 01:41:05,070 Exactly. It is a card that Obama bots, and it would give would be 1671 01:41:05,070 --> 01:41:08,220 at a stuck accelerator and they Oh, I what am I gonna do? And it 1672 01:41:08,220 --> 01:41:10,890 was like, you know, and then they they never got to the 1673 01:41:10,890 --> 01:41:15,480 bottom of it. Figured out floor mosey format Yeah, there was a 1674 01:41:15,480 --> 01:41:18,180 floor mat then they decided that and then it just stopped 1675 01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:22,860 magically stopped. Same floor mats Yeah. No and magically 1676 01:41:22,860 --> 01:41:25,020 stopped because we of course assume there was some way of 1677 01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:28,740 gouging Toyota by the government to to extort money, which is 1678 01:41:28,740 --> 01:41:32,070 still a valid idea, but who knows that the government was 1679 01:41:32,100 --> 01:41:35,880 setting these things into into high speed? Well, it's 1680 01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:39,090 it appears to me if you put all the pieces together, and it's 1681 01:41:39,090 --> 01:41:42,780 very hard often for people to you know, they think it's like 1682 01:41:42,780 --> 01:41:46,110 science fiction, you know, start with when you hear going back to 1683 01:41:46,110 --> 01:41:49,980 the beginning of this program, and you hear this Russell Tice 1684 01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:53,700 say oh no, I did all my spying from space. You know, so yeah, 1685 01:41:53,970 --> 01:41:56,790 and it's very easy and then we just beam down whatever we need 1686 01:41:56,790 --> 01:42:00,120 to do we talk to your Sirius Satellite Radio your Bluetooth 1687 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,150 something. And then we just take over control of your car. I'm 1688 01:42:03,150 --> 01:42:06,000 happy I like our old cars. I'm driving around you keep that 1689 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:11,520 Lexus John. Don't don't get anything new. Nothing. Keep the 1690 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:12,270 Lexus. 1691 01:42:12,420 --> 01:42:19,110 Don't get a hot rod next. Yeah. 35 Ford, a hot rod. It should be 1692 01:42:19,110 --> 01:42:20,670 like the old fart and a hot rod. 1693 01:42:20,910 --> 01:42:24,030 That would be pretty sexy. Hey, girls 1694 01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:34,470 really Hey, girls. Do you think that still works? Yeah, sure. 1695 01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:42,480 With the expose the engine with chromium Chrome. Right. And 1696 01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:45,150 you've got the fender the Federalist wheels, of course. 1697 01:42:45,150 --> 01:42:45,270 Oh, 1698 01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:47,460 yeah. Yeah, you can do that. If the car is under a certain 1699 01:42:47,460 --> 01:42:49,200 weight. You don't need fenders. Right. And so 1700 01:42:49,230 --> 01:42:52,860 is this dirt everywhere? I think this is I envision you and like 1701 01:42:52,860 --> 01:42:56,010 a pickup truck. Hot Rod and one of those like the short the 1702 01:42:56,010 --> 01:42:59,160 short bed Ford. Yeah, that'd be cool. Right? And it has the 1703 01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,970 little wheels in the front. So you're slanted. Right? Right. 1704 01:43:02,970 --> 01:43:09,480 And you think you got flames on the side of flames? And then do 1705 01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:12,930 you have an opponent and if it big blower, a big you know, 1706 01:43:12,930 --> 01:43:18,420 tutor on the front of blower? Right? Right. Well, yeah, when 1707 01:43:18,420 --> 01:43:21,000 you hit like when you hit the accelerator, you see the valves. 1708 01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,650 Open up, open up now they are kind of really rockets forward. 1709 01:43:26,190 --> 01:43:26,940 The Oh yeah. 1710 01:43:27,390 --> 01:43:30,240 And I think you've got super fat tires in the back. What 1711 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:36,480 do you have to lower? Yeah. Hey, girls. Hey, girls. Yeah, yeah. 1712 01:43:36,780 --> 01:43:41,730 Who the hell is that guy? What is this drive? Look at what's 1713 01:43:41,730 --> 01:43:44,100 ever seen these cars anymore? You have to go to a special 1714 01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:45,210 meetings to find them. 1715 01:43:45,210 --> 01:43:49,650 No, we had them. What it was maybe five weeks ago? Oh, yeah. 1716 01:43:49,650 --> 01:43:49,830 I'm 1717 01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:51,150 in town in Austin. Yeah, we 1718 01:43:51,150 --> 01:43:53,790 get the big hot rod weekend. 1719 01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:59,850 And every guy is at least 60. No. Oh, well, that's a plus. No, 1720 01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,180 that's really that was last weekend, we had the Republic of 1721 01:44:03,180 --> 01:44:06,630 Texas Rally. That's essentially a whole bunch of dentists and 1722 01:44:06,690 --> 01:44:10,140 veterinarians who are all weekend warriors. They all get 1723 01:44:10,140 --> 01:44:13,590 on their Harley. And they come to Austin. Hey, ain't got my 1724 01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:19,230 beach on the back. But you know, the really tame, tame kind of 1725 01:44:19,230 --> 01:44:19,770 guys. 1726 01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:25,080 So, so let's move to this. You heard the daily woman I assume. 1727 01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:26,040 Oh my god. Do you? 1728 01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:28,050 Do you want to play it or want to 1729 01:44:28,050 --> 01:44:28,980 play it before we dig? 1730 01:44:29,010 --> 01:44:33,570 I have her. I have the whole thing. I haven't broken up but I 1731 01:44:33,570 --> 01:44:35,430 think it's two and a half minutes. 1732 01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:39,540 I have SQL part one and part two. You have the complete thing 1733 01:44:39,540 --> 01:44:42,720 where they start? Yeah. slobbery. Yeah, let's 1734 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,790 let's just play it from the biggest plant so this is Claire 1735 01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:51,030 Daly she is in the Irish parliament I believe 1736 01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:54,480 right and she's a lefty but she's a she seems like a 1737 01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:57,480 reasonably she's my friend person. 1738 01:44:57,480 --> 01:44:59,940 I like her. She's my friend is what she is. 1739 01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,190 She's hilarious. Hold on a second. 1740 01:45:02,190 --> 01:45:05,970 I have a wiki page here. Let's just I want to give her props. 1741 01:45:06,090 --> 01:45:09,030 These are new, Nigel Farraj. And yes, 1742 01:45:09,540 --> 01:45:11,370 elected Socialist Party. 1743 01:45:12,780 --> 01:45:16,560 Kitty Socialist Party, by the way. Oh, really my own party. 1744 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,030 Let me see. She was previously previously Socialist Party 1745 01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:24,810 Councillor for the swords, electoral electoral areas is 1746 01:45:24,810 --> 01:45:28,080 very complicated. I don't know how Ireland works. Sorry, 1747 01:45:28,410 --> 01:45:31,590 Ireland. designee she resigned from the OC resigned from the 1748 01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:35,070 Socialist Party on the 31st of August, re designating herself 1749 01:45:35,070 --> 01:45:40,530 as a United Left Alliance, te d whatever that is. So anyway, he 1750 01:45:40,530 --> 01:45:41,100 or she is 1751 01:45:42,059 --> 01:45:45,719 Teesha I think it's important to take this opportunity to bring a 1752 01:45:45,719 --> 01:45:48,569 bit of balance into the discussions around the visit of 1753 01:45:48,569 --> 01:45:53,279 the US president and his wife, given the almost unprecedented 1754 01:45:53,429 --> 01:45:57,329 slobbering over them that the nation has been exposed to, by 1755 01:45:57,330 --> 01:45:59,790 the way, we've got to start using some of these terms. 1756 01:45:59,820 --> 01:46:03,510 Unprecedented is beautiful, unprecedented slavery, which is 1757 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:06,750 unprecedented. I want to start talking like that unprecedented 1758 01:46:06,750 --> 01:46:07,410 slobbering 1759 01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:10,620 over the last number of days. And it's really hard to know, 1760 01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:14,190 which is worse, whether it's the outpouring of the Obamas 1761 01:46:14,190 --> 01:46:18,480 themselves, or the sycophantic fawning over them by sections of 1762 01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:21,420 the media, and the political establishment. We've had 1763 01:46:21,420 --> 01:46:24,450 separate and special news bulletins by the state 1764 01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:28,440 broadcaster, to tell us what Michelle Obama and her daughters 1765 01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:31,620 had for lunch in Dublin, but very little questioning of the 1766 01:46:31,620 --> 01:46:35,640 fact that she was having lunch with Mr. Toxic soil himself. 1767 01:46:35,670 --> 01:46:39,870 Who was there, by the way, who was mono? Oh, was Bono? Yeah. 1768 01:46:41,790 --> 01:46:44,970 We had very little challenging of the fact that she's glad to 1769 01:46:44,970 --> 01:46:48,780 be home home a country that she's been in less than a week, 1770 01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:51,780 and that her husband has very tenuous links. And, and, of 1771 01:46:51,780 --> 01:46:55,560 course, the biggest irony of all the profit stations of Obama 1772 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,830 himself, in his speech to the children in Northern Ireland 1773 01:46:58,830 --> 01:47:02,820 about peace, when he said, those who choose a path of peace, I 1774 01:47:02,820 --> 01:47:06,120 promise you that the United States of America will support 1775 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,900 you every step of the way. We will be the wind at your back. 1776 01:47:10,110 --> 01:47:13,500 Now I asked you is this person going for the hypocrites of the 1777 01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:17,940 Century award? Because we have to call things by their right 1778 01:47:17,940 --> 01:47:22,410 names. And the reality is that by any serious examination, this 1779 01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:27,030 man is a war criminal. He has just announced his decision to 1780 01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:30,270 supply herbs to the Syrian opposition, including the 1781 01:47:30,270 --> 01:47:34,050 jihadists fueling the destabilization of that region, 1782 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,410 and continuing to undermine secularism and knock back 1783 01:47:37,410 --> 01:47:38,550 conditions for women. 1784 01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:44,100 So that that was beautiful. But then, then, she goes in, and she 1785 01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:46,800 hammers all these guys, which I love the most. This 1786 01:47:47,519 --> 01:47:50,909 is in essence stalling the Geneva peace talks by trying to 1787 01:47:50,909 --> 01:47:55,469 broker enhanced leverage for the Syrian opposition by giving them 1788 01:47:55,469 --> 01:47:59,309 arms and to hell with the 1000s more who leave lose their lives, 1789 01:47:59,339 --> 01:48:03,419 or the 10s of 1000s more who will be displaced as this war 1790 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:08,939 goes on. This is the man who has facilitated a 200% increase in 1791 01:48:08,939 --> 01:48:12,989 the use of drones, which have killed 1000s of people including 1792 01:48:13,019 --> 01:48:17,009 hundreds of children, and new T shirts. You are the one who has 1793 01:48:17,009 --> 01:48:21,209 turned a blind eye on these activities. You've talked about 1794 01:48:21,209 --> 01:48:25,709 the g8 being an opportunity to showcase our Ireland, but is it 1795 01:48:25,709 --> 01:48:29,609 not a reality that you have showcased us as a nation of 1796 01:48:29,609 --> 01:48:34,859 Pimps prostituting ourselves in return for a pat on the head to 1797 01:48:34,859 --> 01:48:39,509 be honest with you speculate speculating this morning but 1798 01:48:39,509 --> 01:48:42,419 here we're going to take the cabinets out in leprechaun 1799 01:48:42,419 --> 01:48:47,279 hearts decorated with stars and stripes to really Mark abject 1800 01:48:47,279 --> 01:48:48,059 humiliation 1801 01:48:51,390 --> 01:48:54,780 I love this woman OH my God and he 1802 01:48:54,780 --> 01:48:57,720 just lays it on the star she just keeps 1803 01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:01,020 hounding I just love the the leprechauns the 1804 01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,640 imagery is great the liver the leprechauns with stars and 1805 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:06,990 stripes on the hat 1806 01:49:07,620 --> 01:49:12,480 you know and I'm like Yeah, yeah, this will be on every 1807 01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:22,860 single channel. Oh nice. Yeah, good work. I'm very very very 1808 01:49:22,860 --> 01:49:26,910 good. And I love I love the whole slamming of the Mr. tax 1809 01:49:26,910 --> 01:49:31,770 exile himself. That's sometimes it takes someone like that to 1810 01:49:31,770 --> 01:49:35,340 open everyone's eyes but it doesn't get any exposure. No one 1811 01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:36,240 is paying Oh, nobody 1812 01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:39,990 picks it up. I haven't seen it on CNN. It's all just a couple 1813 01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:43,350 of blogs have gotten leopard because it is getting around the 1814 01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:43,770 internet. 1815 01:49:44,519 --> 01:49:48,929 But I'm funny unprecedented hypocrisy isn't going for the 1816 01:49:48,929 --> 01:49:53,459 hypocrisy of the year until you Mr. Drone himself. 1817 01:49:53,820 --> 01:49:56,880 Some Bona was there, boy. Oh, can 1818 01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,880 I just I can just say one thing. Yeah. If you have children in 1819 01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:05,130 the Rome cover their ears. Fuck Bono. All right. 1820 01:50:06,210 --> 01:50:11,400 Bono was there for the g8 to argue against the which we 1821 01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,980 played on the last show that we're supposed to be talking 1822 01:50:13,980 --> 01:50:21,660 about tax evasion. And they did. Seriously. He was there to 1823 01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:25,200 promote the idea that it would this was okay then it moved his 1824 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,260 money. I don't know. How do you explain this to me? Bono has 1825 01:50:28,260 --> 01:50:30,690 moved most of his money out of Ireland, which I always thought 1826 01:50:30,690 --> 01:50:32,640 was a tax haven to Holland. 1827 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:37,620 Yes. Because Holland is is a tax haven because Holland charges no 1828 01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:42,900 two does not tax royalties. This is why you there I can show you 1829 01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:48,030 the Rolling Stone ladies in Amsterdam. Bono. Sir Bono. Yeah, 1830 01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:51,450 I'm sure he's a sir. Is a sir. I'm sure he's got a title of 1831 01:50:51,450 --> 01:50:55,530 Knighthood or something. Yes. So the Rolling Stones have four 1832 01:50:55,530 --> 01:51:01,110 buildings, entire buildings in Amsterdam. entire buildings 1833 01:51:01,170 --> 01:51:04,380 filled with people doing important stuff. Important 1834 01:51:04,380 --> 01:51:07,770 stuff, I tell you. Leprechauns running around investing his 1835 01:51:07,770 --> 01:51:14,700 money to there's no tax on royalties, which is why and then 1836 01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:18,390 also goes for patent royalties. This is why you have the Dutch 1837 01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:19,230 Irish sandwich. 1838 01:51:19,469 --> 01:51:21,629 The night of the British Empire. I 1839 01:51:21,630 --> 01:51:27,870 told you, I told you this is why if you have a patent or as they 1840 01:51:27,870 --> 01:51:32,190 would say, a patent on a technology such as I don't know, 1841 01:51:32,220 --> 01:51:38,880 an iPhone, then you want to charge money for the use of the 1842 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:43,710 patent. And you want that money to be paid to your other 1843 01:51:43,710 --> 01:51:49,980 company, Apple patent Inc, in Amsterdam, who then subsequently 1844 01:51:50,010 --> 01:51:53,460 have no tax on the royalties, because that's a creative 1845 01:51:53,460 --> 01:51:54,120 royalty. 1846 01:51:56,250 --> 01:51:58,560 Nice, yeah. Yeah. 1847 01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,650 Now if we had royalties from this show, 1848 01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:07,290 which we don't know, we set up shop and in our Hell yeah, hell 1849 01:52:07,290 --> 01:52:07,620 yeah. 1850 01:52:07,650 --> 01:52:08,820 We believe in large. 1851 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,710 Like Bono, like Bono. 1852 01:52:13,860 --> 01:52:17,550 He's a dick. I told you about I interviewed him once. Yeah, you 1853 01:52:17,550 --> 01:52:19,800 said he was addict total and he walked away. 1854 01:52:20,490 --> 01:52:23,250 I can walk from the walks. Because you're being mean to 1855 01:52:23,250 --> 01:52:23,370 him. 1856 01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:25,710 I asked him a question about something. I don't know. It's 1857 01:52:25,710 --> 01:52:30,330 something he didn't like. And instead of being a man, and he 1858 01:52:30,330 --> 01:52:33,000 walked away, and the edge was still the edge is like, oh, a 1859 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:33,720 guest log that. 1860 01:52:34,830 --> 01:52:36,000 What is it? You asked? 1861 01:52:36,059 --> 01:52:40,319 I don't remember nothing. I remember being like, what? What 1862 01:52:40,319 --> 01:52:43,349 he just walked away? And probably ask something you know 1863 01:52:43,349 --> 01:52:46,919 about? I don't know. I mean, it was innocent. This is old MTV 1864 01:52:46,919 --> 01:52:52,469 days is maybe? I don't know. How What's your creative process? I 1865 01:52:52,469 --> 01:52:55,169 have no idea what I had. Whatever it was, it wasn't come 1866 01:52:55,169 --> 01:52:58,229 up with this crap. It wasn't to his liking and he just walked 1867 01:52:58,229 --> 01:53:02,969 away. He's Deke deke. Douche dick. 1868 01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,010 Well, he's losing favor in Ireland after the speech. If you 1869 01:53:08,010 --> 01:53:13,710 look at the son of son in Ireland, story is is Bono, Bono 1870 01:53:13,710 --> 01:53:17,550 losing his his popularity? I think the Irish are gonna reject 1871 01:53:17,550 --> 01:53:21,570 him. No, because of this thing is that there was a front page 1872 01:53:21,570 --> 01:53:26,160 story about in Ireland, not here with Obama, Michelle, and having 1873 01:53:26,190 --> 01:53:29,820 lunch with Bono. It's like it was a big scandal, because he 1874 01:53:29,820 --> 01:53:32,640 was only there to promote the idea that he shouldn't be taxed. 1875 01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:32,760 But 1876 01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:36,570 this is right. But this is how the elites of the world you 1877 01:53:36,570 --> 01:53:39,840 know, so the only reason the Obamas were there is because 1878 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,680 it's a tax haven. You know, he's had Apple on his mind all these 1879 01:53:43,980 --> 01:53:46,530 days, I can only talk about Apple, Apple Apple, because, you 1880 01:53:46,530 --> 01:53:49,560 know, this is where Apple has set up their shop and tons of 1881 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,110 companies have set up there because of the low tax rate. And 1882 01:53:52,110 --> 01:53:54,120 that's the only reason that they're like, Hey, thanks, guys. 1883 01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:58,560 Good work. Thank you. I got an interesting note from one of our 1884 01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,860 producers about membrane Obama was we talked about in the last 1885 01:54:01,860 --> 01:54:05,820 show about the yokels. Yeah, the yokels let me just 1886 01:54:05,850 --> 01:54:08,190 refresh your memory about potentially critical 1887 01:54:08,190 --> 01:54:12,360 infrastructure that could be compromised. Yeah, there were a 1888 01:54:12,930 --> 01:54:16,920 handful of yokels up in New York who stole $45 million at ATMs. 1889 01:54:18,540 --> 01:54:20,850 Over the course of I think it was 18 hours. 1890 01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:24,750 So our producer sends he says, you know, you didn't get it. He 1891 01:54:24,750 --> 01:54:28,410 said Obama is used to such big scams, like billions and 1892 01:54:28,410 --> 01:54:31,140 billions and trillions of dollars with his banker buddies, 1893 01:54:31,470 --> 01:54:34,590 that when someone steals 45 million from ATMs, they're 1894 01:54:34,590 --> 01:54:40,800 yokels. Amateurs is amateurs. Like yeah, there's something to 1895 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:42,360 that. Why else would he say it? 1896 01:54:42,990 --> 01:54:47,190 By the way, I doubt the math. They stole $45 million in 48 1897 01:54:47,190 --> 01:54:51,870 hours from ATMs. doesn't sound right. It would have to be more 1898 01:54:51,870 --> 01:54:54,360 than yokels. You'd have to be an army of yokels. 1899 01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:56,670 I still, like the whole idea of him just thinking that just 1900 01:54:56,670 --> 01:54:58,320 Joseph what amateurs 1901 01:54:58,530 --> 01:55:07,110 Yeah, you're 45 Have no closers. Really? You kidding me? That's a 1902 01:55:07,110 --> 01:55:08,070 good observation. 1903 01:55:08,340 --> 01:55:11,790 Hey, let's speaking of yokels. Why don't we thank some of our 1904 01:55:11,790 --> 01:55:13,980 local yokels. What do you say our local 1905 01:55:13,980 --> 01:55:18,000 yokels are going to show my son moved by donating to no agenda? 1906 01:55:18,090 --> 01:55:21,210 Imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah, that'd be fun I 1907 01:55:30,270 --> 01:55:33,840 have a bunch of I do have a letter I want to read before I 1908 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:37,470 go in Exede donated ad which I'll get to his name but it's 1909 01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:43,530 dodge is calls himself a go artist, bartender waiter slave. 1910 01:55:44,130 --> 01:55:47,370 And he says he's dropping donation in the mail. Pay Pal 1911 01:55:47,370 --> 01:55:51,480 being a douche all of a sudden with my card, and yadda yadda 1912 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,630 blah blah blah been a Lister since January 2013. is a new 1913 01:55:54,630 --> 01:55:59,070 listener relatively speaking, love the show, but oh, so he's 1914 01:55:59,070 --> 01:56:03,480 the big butt. Especially in Louisiana. Hey, oh, no, just 1915 01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:06,660 kidding. Yay. And women are beautiful. While listening to an 1916 01:56:06,660 --> 01:56:10,500 old podcast of the no agenda show. Mr. Dvorak went into this 1917 01:56:10,530 --> 01:56:14,850 great ramble about how disgusting Louisiana Cajun 1918 01:56:14,850 --> 01:56:15,690 cooking is. 1919 01:56:15,719 --> 01:56:20,309 Oh god this is not something to be repeated with. This was a we 1920 01:56:20,309 --> 01:56:22,709 I think we lost half of our audience 1921 01:56:24,060 --> 01:56:27,000 just wanted you to know again though of course we didn't get 1922 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:27,690 fired. 1923 01:56:28,410 --> 01:56:31,050 We did not get fired. We're still seeing you. We're still 1924 01:56:31,050 --> 01:56:31,530 here. I 1925 01:56:31,710 --> 01:56:34,680 just want you to know all of my donations to the show came 1926 01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:39,180 directly from money acquired at my upscale Cajun restaurant. 1927 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:45,810 Yes, John you can put upscale and Cajun next to each other. 1928 01:56:47,610 --> 01:56:53,550 All right, so he is in Word. He is in a town called beach 1929 01:56:53,550 --> 01:56:57,690 Alabama actually and he runs the there's apparently a chain of 1930 01:56:57,690 --> 01:57:04,740 these things and this is called the Louisiana land Yap, which is 1931 01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:10,230 spelled lhg nia PPE, which is a classic. God knows where that 1932 01:57:10,230 --> 01:57:14,820 came from Word. And so if you want to go to the Louisiana land 1933 01:57:14,820 --> 01:57:20,850 Yap which is in Orange Beach, Alabama, Orange Beach, or the 1934 01:57:20,850 --> 01:57:24,480 cafe grot say which is an Italian place forget that go to 1935 01:57:24,510 --> 01:57:34,080 Louisiana to land Yap anyway I'm sorry. I was I do like the style 1936 01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,170 of cooking in Louisiana I'm just saying it's a lot of it is 1937 01:57:37,260 --> 01:57:38,250 pretty old fashioned. 1938 01:57:38,340 --> 01:57:41,550 Well I will say as an aside note, but emerald 1939 01:57:41,580 --> 01:57:44,730 who came out in New York went to Louisiana adopted the cuisine is 1940 01:57:44,730 --> 01:57:48,330 modernized in some ways at least for that area. And I arrows 1941 01:57:48,330 --> 01:57:52,200 restaurants are fantastic. Seriously, 1942 01:57:52,230 --> 01:57:54,840 did you want Did you know that noodles is going public? 1943 01:57:55,860 --> 01:57:58,650 Oh really? Yeah, with all that bad publicity. 1944 01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,390 I'm thinking I'm thinking this is a short sell. Because this 1945 01:58:03,390 --> 01:58:06,570 thing is gonna you know have the IPO pop and then all the kids 1946 01:58:06,570 --> 01:58:11,430 are gonna revolt because the Hey man, like they made it like come 1947 01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:16,920 to work on time. It's come to work on time. I would not invest 1948 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:17,730 in that company. 1949 01:58:18,630 --> 01:58:29,340 Noodles. IPO noodles expects an IPO of 13 to $15 a share IPO 1950 01:58:29,340 --> 01:58:32,730 terms they're gonna raise up to 77 point 5 million which will 1951 01:58:32,730 --> 01:58:37,920 open a couple more stores I guess. I think it's a depression 1952 01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,140 company. Noodles. Come on, give me a break. 1953 01:58:40,710 --> 01:58:43,740 Okay, might be might be but we gotta be careful. I mean, we 1954 01:58:43,740 --> 01:58:46,440 could have a slave revolt in our hands and no one will be serving 1955 01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:47,820 at noodles. Oh, 1956 01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:54,150 Don Mills will not be eating there is $131 from Shasta Lake, 1957 01:58:54,150 --> 01:58:56,070 and I'm saying that because there's no noodles in Shasta 1958 01:58:56,070 --> 01:59:03,030 Lake, ITM here's what I owe you for your talk to bid show. 25 1959 01:59:03,030 --> 01:59:05,580 cents he said his 25 senses show since the beginning. 1960 01:59:05,610 --> 01:59:08,520 Oh, okay. Well, this is to bid show. Thank you bid show. Get 1961 01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:12,090 it. Love it. Love it quarter each time. Nice. 1962 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:20,010 J Jason Doolin in lost wages in Nevada 12358. As I listen to my 1963 01:59:20,010 --> 01:59:22,590 comments on the show, I become unhappy. My comment wasn't 1964 01:59:22,590 --> 01:59:24,420 appropriate in any way shape, or form. I don't remember his 1965 01:59:24,420 --> 01:59:27,570 comment. I can only extend an embarrassed and humble apology 1966 01:59:27,570 --> 01:59:29,310 to remember commentators. Yeah, don't 1967 01:59:29,310 --> 01:59:33,060 do that again. I don't you worry. I don't know. I have no 1968 01:59:33,060 --> 01:59:36,090 idea. I'm gonna scold him. He's making it up. Don't do that 1969 01:59:36,090 --> 01:59:37,800 again. Jason. 1970 01:59:39,540 --> 01:59:44,490 Bryan Morton in Casper, Wyoming $100 to Helen BB bore Barber, 1971 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:49,950 actually, in Wilton Australia. $100. Did we have a Sunday a 1972 01:59:49,950 --> 01:59:55,650 birthday call out this listed on here we do have er Vasque was in 1973 01:59:55,650 --> 02:00:00,450 San Diego, California. $100 loves to show up and Fighting 1974 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:07,530 for wild decides time to help out. Antonio McMullen in Round 1975 02:00:07,530 --> 02:00:10,170 Rock Texas was right up the road from you $100 1976 02:00:10,590 --> 02:00:11,910 But he's not there right now. 1977 02:00:12,539 --> 02:00:17,669 He's no because he's doing contract work in Afghan land. He 1978 02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:21,299 hasn't done it in a while since but when he saw the number 33 1979 02:00:21,299 --> 02:00:26,189 painted on a wall, I decided to sing the 33 is the magic number 1980 02:00:26,189 --> 02:00:28,709 jingle if you decide to use the comment during the show, I'd 1981 02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:33,209 appreciate that you left my name oops. Gareth good work, Eric. 1982 02:00:34,499 --> 02:00:39,539 Gareth. herdmen in Korea, New Zealand. Whitney Jacobs in El 1983 02:00:39,539 --> 02:00:46,019 Cajon, California. 83. Gareth was 99 Joe Thompson in Allen 1984 02:00:46,019 --> 02:00:49,439 Texas. Like a birthday shout out we got that. Hey, Doc, question. 1985 02:00:49,470 --> 02:00:53,100 Question. Question. Question. So when we have a producer now who 1986 02:00:53,100 --> 02:00:58,980 has taken you to task over this spring Texas producer meet up? 1987 02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,670 Yeah. And he's I think you're gonna have to get on a plane. 1988 02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:03,720 And we'll see. 1989 02:01:07,410 --> 02:01:10,380 And by the way, everyone in Texas is invited to this I sent 1990 02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:13,530 him a you know, a little thing you can contact people if he 1991 02:01:13,530 --> 02:01:20,730 wants to. Yeah. Elliot Rothman in Atlanta, Georgia. What does 1992 02:01:20,730 --> 02:01:22,800 he say here? I can actually just think doesn't 1993 02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:25,920 bother me as a huge note. No need to read this note. Okay, 1994 02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:27,240 next. Good. 1995 02:01:27,809 --> 02:01:31,259 Paul. We read the note but we read in private Paul Schneider 1996 02:01:31,259 --> 02:01:34,619 in and by the way, Dodge in Orange Beach, Alabama. We I read 1997 02:01:34,619 --> 02:01:40,649 his note already. The ad, Sir John Johnson. Troy, New York. 1998 02:01:41,069 --> 02:01:43,589 Paul Schneider in Edmonton. Oh, by the way, you didn't play it. 1999 02:01:43,619 --> 02:01:53,399 We got it here. You skip one last night. Yeah, I did. John 2000 02:01:53,399 --> 02:01:57,719 Johnson. These are all 6960 Nights. Charles Massey in 2001 02:01:58,229 --> 02:02:04,979 Milledgeville, Georgia. He needs to give him a D douching. And a 2002 02:02:04,979 --> 02:02:05,489 Carmine. 2003 02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:12,240 You spent deep in either karma for taking the LSAT. Oh, you've 2004 02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:16,740 got karma. Every lawyer we can get. We do. Yeah, for sure. 2005 02:02:17,430 --> 02:02:22,500 And the good old Grand Duke Baron von Pels, mockers and 2006 02:02:22,500 --> 02:02:28,140 Belgium he had to come up with another 6969 You could use some 2007 02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:30,240 Swasey enough Carmen we give him whatever 2008 02:02:30,540 --> 02:02:33,750 whatever whatever the Baron whatever the Grand Duke wants 2009 02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:38,250 karma. He is dumb man. 2010 02:02:38,940 --> 02:02:44,670 Demand. Christopher gray in Grand Blanc, Michigan, sir gray 2011 02:02:44,670 --> 02:02:49,590 to you. He's got some milk karma coming I think or some sort. He 2012 02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:55,080 wants some. He waited nine years he was Sandra is right at nine 2013 02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:55,470 years. 2014 02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:58,200 Well, he's he's gonna be knighted today. So getting 2015 02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:03,060 knighted? Yeah. So let me give him his his milk karma. That's 2016 02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:07,380 one you've got your karma. 2017 02:03:08,250 --> 02:03:11,490 Good work man. McCarron oops that's the end of the segment. 2018 02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:18,030 Oh my goodness. Thanks, Gina. I did five we're down to five. 2019 02:03:18,930 --> 02:03:22,590 Yeah. all time high of like 90. 2020 02:03:22,769 --> 02:03:25,709 Yeah, that's all right. It'll go away eventually. 2021 02:03:25,860 --> 02:03:29,520 69 from Grant McCarran and McKinnon Victoria, Australia. 2022 02:03:29,550 --> 02:03:34,830 Coulter Padgett in Bandera Texas. 5555 first time donor. 2023 02:03:37,590 --> 02:03:40,440 He's been on a show with something and daughter. We have 2024 02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:43,800 to give her karma at the end of the episode here. Karen E. 2025 02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:48,570 Edwards $51. In Ontario, Canada, Steven Arnold 50. United States 2026 02:03:48,570 --> 02:03:55,560 these are all 50s Massey solo solo, still Loski I think it's 2027 02:03:55,560 --> 02:04:01,140 me Matt Massey, Macy, Calgary, which is flooded. We have a new 2028 02:04:01,140 --> 02:04:03,060 round of talking about the floods but they they got 2029 02:04:03,060 --> 02:04:08,400 slammed. This flooded out the stampede really did this. They 2030 02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:09,420 didn't have it this year. 2031 02:04:09,630 --> 02:04:12,270 No, they just they decided to have it in the flood pool. Yeah, 2032 02:04:12,270 --> 02:04:16,050 it was Canadians. I told you I've been to the stampede. Yeah, 2033 02:04:16,050 --> 02:04:18,030 I know. It's one of the things I've always wanted to go to. I 2034 02:04:18,030 --> 02:04:19,770 got the belt buckle still somewhere 2035 02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:20,430 somewhere. 2036 02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:29,430 Josh Johnson, Kingston, Ontario 50 Eric VT, Dublin, California. 2037 02:04:30,510 --> 02:04:35,850 Dan grab Lansdale, Pennsylvania finally Kyle Bower in Parts 2038 02:04:35,850 --> 02:04:40,230 Unknown Mark Tanner and Whittier in the last $50 donors Michael 2039 02:04:40,230 --> 02:04:44,220 Hudson comp. In good local boy in Santa Clara, California wrap 2040 02:04:44,220 --> 02:04:49,350 the street from me. And that will be our contributors for 2041 02:04:49,350 --> 02:04:53,730 this show. 5241 remind everyone to help us we had another show 2042 02:04:53,730 --> 02:04:57,090 coming up. This has to be done. I'm sorry. Just the way we do 2043 02:04:57,090 --> 02:05:01,080 the show instead of a bunch of ads every two minutes. We this 2044 02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:03,750 is how we financed the show this is how it gets done this is that 2045 02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:06,480 we get all the support we get we have to thank everybody for the 2046 02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,240 support especially over a certain amount and want to thank 2047 02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,940 the lesser donors to and anyone who just you know I get we get a 2048 02:05:11,940 --> 02:05:14,160 lot of $5 come in from people and a 2049 02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:17,160 lot of people who tweeted saying oh you know and thanks for 2050 02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:20,460 reminding me to check my my monthly because Pay Pal canceled 2051 02:05:20,460 --> 02:05:24,240 and the way Pay Pal cancels is they say no agenda show has 2052 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:29,100 rejected your payment. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, I 2053 02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:29,670 hate that 2054 02:05:29,670 --> 02:05:32,400 got a twit tweet from some guy. Maybe it was the same one. That 2055 02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:35,040 guy's just different bitching about this all this time and did 2056 02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:36,240 happen to me. Yeah. 2057 02:05:37,410 --> 02:05:41,640 Don't check. I think was that was one of our no agenda hams. 2058 02:05:42,750 --> 02:05:48,000 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me see. I have it here. No, it's horrible. 2059 02:05:48,030 --> 02:05:51,600 I don't understand why they say that. We rejected it. 2060 02:05:51,900 --> 02:05:55,620 It's something wrong with their system. No, it's they don't give 2061 02:05:55,620 --> 02:05:55,710 me 2062 02:05:55,740 --> 02:05:59,790 that it's not their system. It's just their language. In their 2063 02:05:59,790 --> 02:06:01,440 system, there's just horrible. 2064 02:06:02,580 --> 02:06:06,000 No, I see a couple of interesting things here. One of 2065 02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:09,420 them is let me see if I bring this up quickly. 2066 02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:12,210 Here that was and three PPro 2067 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:14,880 Yeah, I noticed that you 2068 02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:17,670 already I have I have the language here. I'm going to read 2069 02:06:17,670 --> 02:06:23,070 it to you. Hello, name. No agenda show has suspended your 2070 02:06:23,070 --> 02:06:27,060 automatic payments contact no agenda show for more details or 2071 02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:31,110 to reactivate your payments. Yeah. Over the crinan bullshit 2072 02:06:31,110 --> 02:06:35,790 is that yes, we're gonna say no, we're suspending you. Your 2073 02:06:35,790 --> 02:06:40,290 money's no good here. Suspend him John. Block him blocking 2074 02:06:41,010 --> 02:06:44,730 believable blocking them about this and they never reply to my 2075 02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,540 comments. No mods me they sent me that mail do that one again. 2076 02:06:48,570 --> 02:06:51,330 Yeah, I just bogus I mean, we didn't we're not rejecting 2077 02:06:51,330 --> 02:06:56,040 anybody. I mean, we hate we can't afford it. Oh, some Dick 2078 02:06:56,040 --> 02:07:00,810 Cheney. Screw him. We don't need his money. No. Cheney sends us 2079 02:07:00,810 --> 02:07:03,780 money. It goes into the coffers. pay some bills. That's right. 2080 02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:08,880 Hell yeah. So I see you're using your callsign Yes, I started. 2081 02:07:09,930 --> 02:07:15,570 Kentucky Fried five Salt Lake news. Fried five Salt Lake news. 2082 02:07:15,570 --> 02:07:17,010 And what does it say underneath that? 2083 02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:21,570 www curry.com. And underneath that your government is reading 2084 02:07:21,570 --> 02:07:26,070 your emails, slow them down with encryption. My public key pub 2085 02:07:26,070 --> 02:07:30,150 key.curry.com. How much email do you get that used? 2086 02:07:30,750 --> 02:07:35,010 A lot? Billy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You'd be amazed. Yeah, I'd say. 2087 02:07:35,700 --> 02:07:40,050 Well, I mean, as a percentage, very small, but per day, at 2088 02:07:40,050 --> 02:07:41,010 least five? 2089 02:07:41,340 --> 02:07:43,740 Oh, that's nice. Yeah, good. Well, then all the government 2090 02:07:43,740 --> 02:07:47,910 spooks can send curry the cool stuff. And 2091 02:07:48,630 --> 02:07:52,860 well, I have no illusions about it. The NSA can crack it, but it 2092 02:07:52,860 --> 02:07:54,990 slows them down. That's exactly what I said. You know, it's 2093 02:07:54,990 --> 02:07:57,360 gonna really I'm 2094 02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,450 sure the NSA would if they wanted to. I mean, this like 2095 02:08:00,570 --> 02:08:03,390 those two idiots screw them to get better fish to fry. Let's 2096 02:08:03,390 --> 02:08:09,300 get the goods on Schumer. Care about that? Swing 2097 02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:13,740 that dish around? Yeah, who gives a crap about them? Oh, let 2098 02:08:13,740 --> 02:08:15,990 me just, we got to finish up the segment and I got some cool 2099 02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:20,520 stuff to talk about. We have a title that we have a change in 2100 02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:25,560 title. This is Sir Dr. Sharkey, who becomes Baronet, so he 2101 02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,950 doesn't get a piece of land yet. But he's on his way to Baron 2102 02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:32,910 them. And he gets that name. He wasn't on the list today. But we 2103 02:08:32,910 --> 02:08:35,070 know that he's sent in it. He's good for his donation. But he 2104 02:08:35,070 --> 02:08:39,360 sent it in late cut off time is midnight, Pacific pacific time 2105 02:08:39,390 --> 02:08:44,250 on the day before or the evening before the show. And yes, I'll 2106 02:08:44,250 --> 02:08:47,550 reiterate what John said. Thank you so much. This is the only 2107 02:08:47,550 --> 02:08:52,410 way that we can that we can get by and I'm I think just looking 2108 02:08:52,410 --> 02:08:56,550 at today's show. Hello. The value has been right there. We 2109 02:08:56,550 --> 02:09:00,210 saved you 20 bucks. That's without water for them and a 2110 02:09:00,210 --> 02:09:04,170 rabbit grabbing movie right now because we bought two waters and 2111 02:09:04,170 --> 02:09:07,800 some m&ms. So you know the bill when you have 40 bucks before 2112 02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:12,270 you know it. We have helped you understand what bullcrap the 2113 02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:16,650 Kaiser Alexander is spewing, which is public information. 2114 02:09:16,890 --> 02:09:19,740 It's just public information. Isn't that you're not even 2115 02:09:19,740 --> 02:09:20,220 getting? 2116 02:09:20,490 --> 02:09:23,820 No, you can't even get the simplest stuff. Yeah. It's 2117 02:09:23,820 --> 02:09:27,300 amazing simple stuff. Use the word I use the word amazing. I 2118 02:09:27,300 --> 02:09:28,800 shouldn't be slapped. That's okay. 2119 02:09:28,980 --> 02:09:34,890 borak.org/and. A, I will mention that we got a great note with a 2120 02:09:34,890 --> 02:09:37,920 couple of ideas from one of our producers. And he said, Why 2121 02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:41,490 don't you have a jingle for your Pio box? Because in this case, 2122 02:09:41,490 --> 02:09:45,390 you have to go to the website to get the PIO box. Whereas if we 2123 02:09:45,390 --> 02:09:48,630 had a Pio box jingle, then people could just, you know, 2124 02:09:48,990 --> 02:09:52,680 need to donate money. And they could just sing the jingle 2125 02:09:52,710 --> 02:09:55,440 what's our Pio box? Box 339 2126 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:59,970 El Cerrito, California 94530 2127 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,170 Maybe we needed a whole song. 2128 02:10:01,590 --> 02:10:03,660 Well, no, why don't you just take what I just said and run it 2129 02:10:03,660 --> 02:10:07,410 through that stupid thing, that device that makes it into an 2130 02:10:07,710 --> 02:10:08,400 auto tune? 2131 02:10:08,430 --> 02:10:10,710 Alright, so hopefully someone will do that for us. I thought 2132 02:10:10,710 --> 02:10:14,610 it was a good idea. I thought that was yeah, that was a great 2133 02:10:14,610 --> 02:10:14,700 it 2134 02:10:14,700 --> 02:10:19,260 sounds like a tough one. But again hey.org/na could be 2135 02:10:19,260 --> 02:10:23,850 thank you and we have some very, very talented mofos listening to 2136 02:10:23,850 --> 02:10:26,520 the show. And here's a big karma for everybody all you monthly 2137 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:30,690 donors you one time smaller donation numbers, our associates 2138 02:10:30,690 --> 02:10:33,690 of course, executives, Associate Executive producers, just 2139 02:10:33,690 --> 02:10:38,370 everyone who is supporting the show. Thank you so much. You got 2140 02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:39,240 karma 2141 02:10:46,830 --> 02:10:49,320 so he's getting his birthday a shout out today and Raul 2142 02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:52,020 Philemon, who will be celebrating on June 30. I hope 2143 02:10:52,020 --> 02:10:54,870 you remember to do it again. On Thursday, Helen Barbara 2144 02:10:55,290 --> 02:11:01,350 celebrates today the 23rd as does Joe Thomas and returns for 2145 02:11:01,350 --> 02:11:03,930 you today. Happy birthday from your friends here the best 2146 02:11:03,930 --> 02:11:14,880 podcast in the universe. And we have a knighting Yes I got my 2147 02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:19,110 blade. Joan. Joan. Joan comes Do you have your bled buddy? Nice. 2148 02:11:19,110 --> 02:11:25,380 Okay. All right, Christopher gray please step forward. We've 2149 02:11:25,380 --> 02:11:29,520 already provided you with the required message karma for your 2150 02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:32,460 lovely bride Sandra and now we would like to present you with 2151 02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:36,510 your award. Unlike that douchebag mono This one's real 2152 02:11:36,510 --> 02:11:40,230 we put on Stevie sir grey Knight and the Norwegian roundtable for 2153 02:11:40,230 --> 02:11:43,170 you, sir. hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay hot pans and 2154 02:11:43,170 --> 02:11:45,390 booze, long haired heavy metal guys and Scotch wants you to be 2155 02:11:45,390 --> 02:11:47,760 a little bit as women and Rosae gushes and sock a buck and 2156 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,950 middle of bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider nets quartz and 2157 02:11:49,950 --> 02:11:55,350 muffin Mead. And you can share it with your lady. All of that. 2158 02:11:56,940 --> 02:11:59,340 Wow, I'm good at that. I remember that. So well. Got 2159 02:11:59,340 --> 02:12:00,210 that thing down. I 2160 02:12:00,210 --> 02:12:04,740 got it down. I do. All right. We're gonna very interesting 2161 02:12:04,770 --> 02:12:10,380 invitation. We have our little dinner club here in Austin. 2162 02:12:10,830 --> 02:12:15,420 Yeah, the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie club. What are you? 2163 02:12:17,310 --> 02:12:20,880 It's a movie by Boone Well, which perfectly describes the 2164 02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:25,050 situation in which you're ensnared. Say it again. A 2165 02:12:25,050 --> 02:12:27,510 discreet charm of the bourgeoisie. 2166 02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:33,840 Oh, well, yes. And so we have a, our next dinner will be on July 2167 02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:36,510 5, because Miss Mickey is going back to Amsterdam, do her foot 2168 02:12:36,510 --> 02:12:38,910 project. And then she's going back for three days. She's 2169 02:12:38,910 --> 02:12:42,750 coming back on the fourth. And on the fifth, we have our next 2170 02:12:42,750 --> 02:12:46,680 dinner. And so there's a little email that goes around. This is 2171 02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:50,760 really beautiful. And you know, it's a it's actually it's kind 2172 02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:52,800 of funny, because they always make fun of me on the email. 2173 02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,490 Like they make fun of you. Oh, yeah. It's like So Russ, the 2174 02:12:56,490 --> 02:13:00,240 brain professor. He's like, I'm in Washington, DC. Despite my 2175 02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:03,570 association with you. I had no problem with my clearances into 2176 02:13:03,570 --> 02:13:10,260 the White House. Oh, oh. I've got Yeah. And I'm like, No, it's 2177 02:13:10,260 --> 02:13:14,040 because of your association with me. You had no problem. And then 2178 02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:17,880 the other person is like, Laurie. He's like, Have you ever 2179 02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:21,240 requested your file on the the Freedom of Information Act from 2180 02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:25,830 the FBI? And I'm like, no UPS doesn't ship anything over 50 2181 02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:33,090 pounds. Thank you very much. So this is called the so we will 2182 02:13:33,090 --> 02:13:36,330 have new guests at the table. This is very smart. This is very 2183 02:13:36,330 --> 02:13:37,320 smart. And then 2184 02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,440 these are new people altogether. They haven't been you've never 2185 02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,830 met have not met them. They are however in Austin. And why are 2186 02:13:43,830 --> 02:13:46,110 you having them for dinner if you've never met? No, no, 2187 02:13:46,110 --> 02:13:49,710 we the dinner party is at Lori's place. It's her time. See? Okay, 2188 02:13:49,740 --> 02:13:52,020 and she is adding people to the mix. 2189 02:13:52,530 --> 02:13:55,140 What about that woman that you insulted the last time you had 2190 02:13:55,140 --> 02:13:58,050 to she gone? She added the group. Well, who 2191 02:13:58,050 --> 02:14:00,780 did I insult? Oh, no, no, no, that was a different dinner that 2192 02:14:00,780 --> 02:14:02,640 was with the gay friends. Oh, the 2193 02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:07,800 gay dinners. Just a party animal. Oh, yeah. I didn't get 2194 02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:09,750 any of these clips on time. 2195 02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:13,740 It's very hard. Well, even better. I have a clip of the new 2196 02:14:13,740 --> 02:14:17,940 guest. How about that I've got a clip of the guest. So 2197 02:14:17,940 --> 02:14:21,060 you're gonna you're moving up the ladder are actually 2198 02:14:21,060 --> 02:14:21,690 clippable 2199 02:14:23,010 --> 02:14:26,790 they provide their own clips. Hey, we're having dinner with 2200 02:14:26,790 --> 02:14:31,140 curry. Let me send him a clip, a little teaser. This is James 2201 02:14:31,140 --> 02:14:36,150 Pennebaker and his lovely wife and I shall be reading both of 2202 02:14:36,150 --> 02:14:38,940 their books. I have them on the Kindles and I haven't told them 2203 02:14:38,940 --> 02:14:41,490 that of course, but and I'm not going to say hey, nice to meet 2204 02:14:41,490 --> 02:14:45,420 you. I read your book. No, I'm going to sneak it in and I you 2205 02:14:45,420 --> 02:14:48,330 know, because they're professors of course. And he is a 2206 02:14:48,690 --> 02:14:53,160 professor. He is actually brain professors boss at the 2207 02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:58,080 university here. The Longhorn thing that you teach Texas, 2208 02:14:58,230 --> 02:15:01,890 University of Texas He wrote a book, which I thought would be, 2209 02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:04,290 it's real no agenda material. I can't recommend that yet, 2210 02:15:04,290 --> 02:15:07,650 because I haven't really gotten into it, called The Secret Life 2211 02:15:07,650 --> 02:15:11,820 of pronouns. And he has developed not just a thesis, but 2212 02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:15,930 computer software and all kinds of stuff that can help you 2213 02:15:15,930 --> 02:15:21,660 detect people when, through people's use of language when 2214 02:15:21,660 --> 02:15:24,510 they're lying. And in particular, when people are 2215 02:15:24,510 --> 02:15:26,910 using something he has coined performative, I don't know if 2216 02:15:26,910 --> 02:15:32,430 he's coined it, but he calls him performative. And I, and I think 2217 02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:37,470 it's going to be really interesting to meet this guy, 2218 02:15:37,650 --> 02:15:41,040 but I wanted to play a little clip where he has clips inside 2219 02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:44,490 his clip about and it's something that we follow all the 2220 02:15:44,490 --> 02:15:49,260 time about how in particular presidents use particular 2221 02:15:49,260 --> 02:15:53,310 phrases and language to lie to us. And I wanted to share that. 2222 02:15:53,310 --> 02:15:54,630 So will you listen to this for a moment? And 2223 02:15:54,630 --> 02:15:57,300 it sounds like a winner? Yeah. You know, language is a 2224 02:15:57,300 --> 02:16:00,780 complicated world, especially when we're trying to understand 2225 02:16:01,140 --> 02:16:04,290 how language differs when someone's telling the truth 2226 02:16:04,290 --> 02:16:09,000 versus lying. Now, one thing that is common is that when 2227 02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:12,420 people tell the truth, they tend to use the words like I, me and 2228 02:16:12,420 --> 02:16:16,680 my at higher rates than when they're lying, except under one 2229 02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,740 circumstance. And this circumstance is one that was 2230 02:16:19,740 --> 02:16:23,700 first studied by philosophers, and specifically a guy by the 2231 02:16:23,700 --> 02:16:27,030 name of John Austin, Austin studies, something called for 2232 02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:31,560 formatives. An example of this would be, I want you to know, 2233 02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:32,850 I'm holding a shovel. 2234 02:16:33,420 --> 02:16:35,940 In the video, he's holding a pen when he says this, 2235 02:16:36,689 --> 02:16:40,469 that, in reality, this is not a shovel. Nevertheless, what I 2236 02:16:40,469 --> 02:16:44,069 just said, Is it true or not, I want you to know I'm holding a 2237 02:16:44,069 --> 02:16:49,769 shovel. In a weird kind of way. That's true. Why? Because the 2238 02:16:49,769 --> 02:16:53,999 first part of this sentence I want you to know, is true, I do 2239 02:16:53,999 --> 02:16:56,639 really want you to know I'm holding a shovel, now, I'm 2240 02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:59,099 holding a shovel was completely false. But that's not the 2241 02:16:59,099 --> 02:17:02,309 premise of the sentence. And that's what a performative is. 2242 02:17:02,489 --> 02:17:07,439 Now, so happens that this is used quite a bit. And I've seen 2243 02:17:07,439 --> 02:17:11,069 it a lot, especially in politicians. I'd like to begin 2244 02:17:11,069 --> 02:17:15,119 with one of my favorite lies of all times, and one that you may 2245 02:17:15,119 --> 02:17:19,619 well know from Bill Clinton when he was president. But I 2246 02:17:19,620 --> 02:17:23,460 want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to 2247 02:17:23,460 --> 02:17:25,290 listen to me, I'm gonna say this, again. 2248 02:17:26,340 --> 02:17:32,040 Did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss Lewinsky 2249 02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:36,570 was that stunning or what? We just heard three powerful 2250 02:17:36,570 --> 02:17:40,380 performance right in a row. I want to say one thing to the 2251 02:17:40,380 --> 02:17:44,700 American people, I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say 2252 02:17:44,700 --> 02:17:48,810 this again. I did not have sexual relationships with that 2253 02:17:48,810 --> 02:17:53,400 woman, Miss Lewinsky. What he said was technically true. I 2254 02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:56,670 want to say this again, I didn't have sex with that woman. Well, 2255 02:17:57,090 --> 02:18:00,300 he did. He was saying it again, he was being completely honest, 2256 02:18:00,570 --> 02:18:04,350 except for the minor part about the big lie part. But from a 2257 02:18:04,500 --> 02:18:09,960 pure linguistic, and logical philosophical perspective, he 2258 02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:14,940 was telling the truth. Let's finish this with a few of few 2259 02:18:15,090 --> 02:18:18,570 recent presidents and other people who use performative 2260 02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:21,360 without any judgment on whether these people are telling the 2261 02:18:21,360 --> 02:18:22,110 truth or not. 2262 02:18:22,740 --> 02:18:25,260 I want to say this to the television audience, I made my 2263 02:18:25,260 --> 02:18:27,930 mistakes. I just want to tell you that 2264 02:18:29,940 --> 02:18:34,170 when we negotiate, I'm going to dive, as I say, on my side, I've 2265 02:18:34,170 --> 02:18:36,510 got $22 billion, and the American people have got to 2266 02:18:36,510 --> 02:18:41,400 understand this. That this program won't go 2267 02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:45,510 forward. And I want to I want everybody to understand that 2268 02:18:46,020 --> 02:18:47,550 this is a jobs issue. 2269 02:18:49,020 --> 02:18:52,890 So let them things like let me be clear, the fact of the 2270 02:18:52,890 --> 02:18:55,770 matter. This is all great stuff. 2271 02:18:57,570 --> 02:19:02,040 Well, this is a guy you need to know. Yeah, I'm very. He's a 2272 02:19:02,070 --> 02:19:06,300 he's an expert at looking at structures. Yep. And now there 2273 02:19:06,300 --> 02:19:09,270 was there's different ways that people deal with liars. I mean, 2274 02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:12,930 especially when you deal with somebody who is a pathological 2275 02:19:12,930 --> 02:19:16,230 liar, which are very difficult to catch. Because this is like a 2276 02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:19,500 game they play. But generally speaking, when you're dealing 2277 02:19:19,500 --> 02:19:24,060 with liars, a normal process is using their body language and 2278 02:19:24,060 --> 02:19:28,440 cues and other things, which is sometimes never works, right. I 2279 02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:32,250 mean, it's a good idea, but he's doing it by deconstructing the 2280 02:19:32,250 --> 02:19:35,010 actual structure of what they say. Yeah, and 2281 02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:38,760 it goes pretty deep. And of course, now I'm really nervous 2282 02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:40,560 because I'm gonna be so conscious that he's like, Yeah, 2283 02:19:40,560 --> 02:19:41,400 you're gonna be like 2284 02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:50,430 trying to kid curry. Best podcast in the universe. Says 2285 02:19:50,430 --> 02:19:53,640 who? seems great. 2286 02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:58,530 Yeah, that's gonna be famous. I'm gonna have to temper myself 2287 02:19:58,530 --> 02:20:03,090 though because I know I get excited. Did I have to calm 2288 02:20:03,090 --> 02:20:05,190 down? It's dinner after all. 2289 02:20:06,569 --> 02:20:08,789 Yeah, maybe he's, well, maybe I'll clam up when he's at 2290 02:20:08,789 --> 02:20:10,529 dinner. You might be one of those guests is not talkative, 2291 02:20:10,529 --> 02:20:12,809 he doesn't trust the outside. Well, he's weird. 2292 02:20:12,839 --> 02:20:15,389 I liked it very much. So I like because I learned this new we 2293 02:20:15,389 --> 02:20:19,169 have a word for called the performative. And we are we are 2294 02:20:19,169 --> 02:20:23,909 usually looking at the physical tells, which there are a lot of 2295 02:20:24,059 --> 02:20:28,259 the costs and other costs, but, and in his book, he really says 2296 02:20:28,259 --> 02:20:31,499 it's really all the small world words, it's the pronouns, it's 2297 02:20:31,499 --> 02:20:35,549 like, you know, it's the eye. It's the, the, and you know, all 2298 02:20:35,549 --> 02:20:38,519 these little things and how people use those tells you if 2299 02:20:38,519 --> 02:20:41,759 they're really full of crap or not, but the big ones is like, 2300 02:20:42,089 --> 02:20:45,479 you know, the fact of the matter. Let me be clear, let me 2301 02:20:45,479 --> 02:20:46,829 be clear, doesn't mean it's true. 2302 02:20:50,490 --> 02:20:52,980 Yeah, let me beat Yeah, no, you're just being clear. Yeah, 2303 02:20:53,010 --> 02:20:55,230 she's being very clear. I'll talk slower. Let me 2304 02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:58,050 tell the American people, okay, you're telling doesn't mean 2305 02:20:58,050 --> 02:21:00,810 you're telling us the truth? That's very smart. 2306 02:21:02,850 --> 02:21:06,330 Um, no, this is a good example. This is the definition, the Free 2307 02:21:06,330 --> 02:21:08,940 Dictionary of performative, which is kind of interesting 2308 02:21:08,940 --> 02:21:13,800 because it's more than just that. It's really relating to or 2309 02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:17,130 being an utterance that performs an act or creates a state of 2310 02:21:17,130 --> 02:21:20,190 affairs by the fact that is being uttered under appropriate 2311 02:21:20,190 --> 02:21:24,300 or conventional circumstances. And this includes a justice of 2312 02:21:24,300 --> 02:21:28,230 this of the piece uttering I now pronounce you husband and wife. 2313 02:21:28,530 --> 02:21:33,060 Yeah. What does that mean? Thus creating a legal union or as one 2314 02:21:33,090 --> 02:21:36,720 uttering I promise, thus, performing the act of promising 2315 02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:41,010 so it is performance, a performative utterance is 2316 02:21:41,010 --> 02:21:45,390 another another definition, demanding an utterance that 2317 02:21:45,390 --> 02:21:48,600 constitutes some act, especially the ACT described by the verb 2318 02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:53,910 for example, I confess that I was, I was there, I confess that 2319 02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:56,700 I was there is, in itself a confession. It's also 2320 02:21:56,700 --> 02:22:02,370 performative in the narrows narrower sense. While I'd like 2321 02:22:02,430 --> 02:22:06,180 you to meet, effecting an introduction is performative 2322 02:22:06,210 --> 02:22:10,470 only in the looser sense? This is a very interesting word, this 2323 02:22:10,470 --> 02:22:12,930 performative thing, I'm gonna look into this. Well, I'm gonna 2324 02:22:12,930 --> 02:22:14,400 I think we use it quite a bit. I 2325 02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:17,790 think we use it a lot. And also, is it not possible and this is 2326 02:22:17,790 --> 02:22:20,520 probably what I'm most interested in is can you defeat 2327 02:22:20,520 --> 02:22:25,230 this? Or can you use this to your advantage? And how is it 2328 02:22:25,230 --> 02:22:28,080 really close to neuro linguistic programming? I mean, where do 2329 02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:28,980 where is the line? 2330 02:22:29,010 --> 02:22:31,410 Well, this is the question you'll be asking at dinner. 2331 02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:34,590 Yes, I'll say could you pass the potato salad? 2332 02:22:35,580 --> 02:22:38,580 Is that any just performative or anything like that? Can it be 2333 02:22:38,580 --> 02:22:41,790 used in at Neuro Linguistic Programming manner? Can 2334 02:22:41,790 --> 02:22:44,430 I get it? Can I use it to make people send me money? 2335 02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:48,600 Please, support that to support the show. Of course, 2336 02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:49,380 obviously, 2337 02:22:49,980 --> 02:22:52,050 I gotta I gotta be interesting dinner. So 2338 02:22:52,350 --> 02:22:55,200 that's July 5, I'll keep you appraised. 2339 02:22:55,920 --> 02:22:58,560 You know, we actually do a show on July 4, we're actually going 2340 02:22:58,560 --> 02:23:01,890 to be working the two of us and that's right on the Fourth of 2341 02:23:01,890 --> 02:23:04,500 July. That's right. I have a flag hanging outside the door. 2342 02:23:04,530 --> 02:23:08,460 Yes. And I got this huge flag hanging off the balcony. I have 2343 02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:17,790 a flag that hung above. Well, hold on. I have a yellow flag 2344 02:23:17,790 --> 02:23:20,640 that hung at the it's one of the souvenir flies. They hang the 2345 02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:23,670 flag in front of the white in front of the state house and 2346 02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:24,300 then they sell it. 2347 02:23:24,390 --> 02:23:29,250 No, it was a bad idea, though. Is it? I have here certificate 2348 02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:30,510 of authenticity. 2349 02:23:31,890 --> 02:23:34,110 As you all know, shows never faked. 2350 02:23:34,650 --> 02:23:41,250 Well, no, it's signed by can commander Hill and Command 2351 02:23:41,250 --> 02:23:46,020 Sergeant Major Menton to all Hill? Yeah. To all who shall see 2352 02:23:46,020 --> 02:23:50,310 these presents. The flag of the United States of America 2353 02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:52,890 accompanying this certificate has been proudly flown over 2354 02:23:52,890 --> 02:23:56,700 Forward Operating Base, Oregon II headquarter of Task Force 2355 02:23:56,700 --> 02:24:01,500 white Kurt Currahee. Oh, you bet. You're in a rock country? 2356 02:24:01,530 --> 02:24:05,520 No, this is Afghanistan. This is the 100 and first Airborne 2357 02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:10,650 Division presented to Mrs. flag to house and it to Mr. Adam 2358 02:24:10,650 --> 02:24:13,980 curry in sincere appreciation for your support and sacrifice. 2359 02:24:15,360 --> 02:24:21,750 For my sacrifices, John. Yeah, well. I always tell him, I don't 2360 02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:24,480 feel good about the things you send me. I really don't feel 2361 02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,900 good about that. I'll take the flag and I love the certificate. 2362 02:24:27,900 --> 02:24:30,750 But the standard language really doesn't apply to me. 2363 02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:35,670 customized it earlier. Douchebag. 2364 02:24:36,510 --> 02:24:41,190 I would have loved that for your douchebaggery while we're here 2365 02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:49,680 eating sand you douchebag here's a flag to Erdogan of Turkey. Did 2366 02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:51,300 you Did you hear what he said? 2367 02:24:52,440 --> 02:24:54,570 I've heard a lot of what he said what are you referring to? 2368 02:24:55,170 --> 02:24:59,970 He's saying I show Well, this has translated Of course. Yep. 2369 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,230 He's saying this. What's happening here is the same 2370 02:25:04,350 --> 02:25:11,610 forces foreign forces who are stoking the protests in Brazil. 2371 02:25:11,940 --> 02:25:15,300 The same game is now being played over in Brazil. Ertegun 2372 02:25:15,300 --> 02:25:18,690 said the symbols are the same. The protesters, the posters are 2373 02:25:18,690 --> 02:25:22,020 the same. Twitter, Facebook are the same. The international 2374 02:25:22,020 --> 02:25:25,440 media is the same. The protests are being led from the same 2375 02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:28,500 center. They're doing their best to achieve in Brazil, what they 2376 02:25:28,500 --> 02:25:31,620 could not achieve in Turkey. It's the same game, the same 2377 02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:33,090 trap, the same aim. 2378 02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:37,380 And the goal of this. And the rationale, the goal that means 2379 02:25:37,380 --> 02:25:41,700 to there's motive regime change. regime change. Well, you know, 2380 02:25:41,700 --> 02:25:45,540 the Brazil thing is not Yeah, well, it might be true in 2381 02:25:45,540 --> 02:25:48,810 Turkey, but Brazil, they have regime changes constantly. Yeah. 2382 02:25:49,500 --> 02:25:51,900 So this Brazil thing doesn't apply. I think that's wrong. 2383 02:25:52,260 --> 02:25:55,590 Well, I'm I'm not I'm just I'm not saying and Erdogan is saying 2384 02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:56,160 it why So 2385 02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:59,520 what's he was he accusing see Russians or the Americans? 2386 02:26:00,030 --> 02:26:03,660 Americans? I think he's cute, or the Chinese think he's accusing 2387 02:26:03,660 --> 02:26:04,440 the Americans 2388 02:26:05,070 --> 02:26:06,870 seems more like a Russian ploy. 2389 02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:11,850 Maybe. And here's a little Federal Register note that 2390 02:26:11,850 --> 02:26:16,350 popped up. Remember, we had? Well, actually, I can just read 2391 02:26:16,350 --> 02:26:20,130 it to you. This is from the president named Mr. Speaker, Mr. 2392 02:26:20,130 --> 02:26:24,120 President, certain US forces recently deployed to Jordan 2393 02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:27,960 solely to participate in a training exercise. We talked 2394 02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:32,490 about this, which was early Eagle, I think it was. This 2395 02:26:32,490 --> 02:26:38,010 exercise ended on June 20 2013. At the request of the Government 2396 02:26:38,010 --> 02:26:43,740 of Jordan, a combat equipped detachment of approximately 700 2397 02:26:43,740 --> 02:26:47,820 of these forces remained in Jordan, after the conclusion of 2398 02:26:47,820 --> 02:26:52,980 the exercise to join other US forces already in Jordan. That 2399 02:26:52,980 --> 02:26:55,500 attachment that participate in the exercise and remained in 2400 02:26:55,500 --> 02:26:59,100 Jordan includes Patriot missile systems, fight aircraft and 2401 02:26:59,100 --> 02:27:02,190 related support command control and communications personnel and 2402 02:27:02,190 --> 02:27:05,370 systems. That attachment will remain in Jordan, in full 2403 02:27:05,370 --> 02:27:07,950 coordination with the Government of Jordan until the security 2404 02:27:07,950 --> 02:27:10,410 situation becomes such that it is no longer needed. 2405 02:27:11,580 --> 02:27:14,520 This is unbelievable, which is never by the way, oh, 2406 02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:18,210 the guy just and this is the letter from the president 2407 02:27:18,210 --> 02:27:21,030 regarding the War Powers resolution to under War Powers 2408 02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:24,810 resolution. He's saying I'm just gonna deploy 700 guys. 2409 02:27:25,410 --> 02:27:28,650 Yeah, in addition, yeah, to whatever was already there. I 2410 02:27:28,650 --> 02:27:30,180 said, God, Colonel, I 2411 02:27:30,180 --> 02:27:34,140 know Yeah, God knows. The deployment of this detachment 2412 02:27:34,140 --> 02:27:36,840 has been directed in furtherance of US national security. Oh, 2413 02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:40,080 it's protecting us and foreign policy interests. Yeah. 2414 02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:42,570 Including the important national interest in supporting the 2415 02:27:42,570 --> 02:27:46,950 security of Jordan and promoting regional stability. You are a 2416 02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:47,730 war criminal? 2417 02:27:49,410 --> 02:27:51,750 Yeah, you're defending the guy at the beginning of the show. 2418 02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:54,330 Now you're calling him a war criminal. Make up your mind. 2419 02:27:55,170 --> 02:27:58,560 He's a nice war criminal. I like him. 2420 02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,580 What about this flight? 800 thing keeps getting murkier. 2421 02:28:02,610 --> 02:28:07,080 Yeah, I think I have a feeling this is this is this feels like 2422 02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:09,870 more distraction than anything. I'm not quite sure why 2423 02:28:09,930 --> 02:28:12,480 it is a distraction because it's not getting as much play. It 2424 02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,510 gets kind of mentioned here. Remember this? This more guys 2425 02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:17,880 keep coming out of the woodwork saying hey, this is bullcrap. 2426 02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:19,710 Hold on a second. Where 2427 02:28:19,710 --> 02:28:23,730 are you seeing the promo? Because this is this. 2428 02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:26,640 It's just scattered. I don't have it. No, I know. You know, 2429 02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:28,830 it's a new TV network. 2430 02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:32,760 It's not a new it's like a Netflix network. This is this is 2431 02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:35,610 their thing. This is their big documentary. It's I'm gonna 2432 02:28:35,730 --> 02:28:38,190 unpack but doesn't mean it's all bull crap. Just because 2433 02:28:38,190 --> 02:28:40,770 somebody's you know, doing a little PR for it. 2434 02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:45,540 No, but there's but there's, there's no mean it all it's just 2435 02:28:45,540 --> 02:28:48,600 riling up the same old theory where we know this thing was 2436 02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:53,130 brought down by the some kind of shoulder fired missile da? 2437 02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:58,740 Well, I think I've I have the passenger manifest. 2438 02:28:59,400 --> 02:29:03,720 Oh, well. Okay. How was brought down as irrelevant versus who 2439 02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:05,400 was who was brought down that oh, 2440 02:29:05,400 --> 02:29:07,950 there's only there's a number of the lots of bankers are on this 2441 02:29:07,950 --> 02:29:10,740 plane. Oh, okay. Interesting. They took out a lot of bankers. 2442 02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:14,160 And they took out the guy who was the senior senior systems 2443 02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:19,620 engineer for the Aegis missile system. I thought that was 2444 02:29:19,620 --> 02:29:22,620 interesting. Yeah. So they got rid of him. But the one that 2445 02:29:22,620 --> 02:29:27,240 gets me and I'm still looking into this one, because Mohammed 2446 02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:32,010 forgot, killed and on the list of one of these websites that 2447 02:29:32,010 --> 02:29:36,120 says, we don't know too much. Why this guy's killed, but he 2448 02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:40,770 was one of the guys who did business with Ron Brown. Oh, on 2449 02:29:40,770 --> 02:29:43,920 the Ivory Coast, and we know Ron Brown was assassinated. He was 2450 02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:48,990 the Secretary of Commerce under Clinton, and he was killed and 2451 02:29:48,990 --> 02:29:52,290 around the time that this plane went down, but st within the 2452 02:29:52,290 --> 02:29:55,110 same timeframe, and there was a whole bunch of guys that died in 2453 02:29:55,110 --> 02:29:57,570 question. Then we got into getting back to the Clinton kill 2454 02:29:57,570 --> 02:30:00,840 list, but you move on to another good version. Have a Clinton 2455 02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:03,810 body count the body count one of the body count websites, there's 2456 02:30:03,810 --> 02:30:07,440 a bunch of them. So we have one linked in the show notes. And I 2457 02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:07,650 put 2458 02:30:07,650 --> 02:30:11,790 it under to to the head. The Clinton body count, which you 2459 02:30:11,790 --> 02:30:15,210 sent is very interesting. You sent this to me. And you said, 2460 02:30:15,210 --> 02:30:18,480 Wow, I hadn't really tracked this for a while and it's grown. 2461 02:30:18,990 --> 02:30:19,680 It has 2462 02:30:20,220 --> 02:30:23,430 and bolted Hastings on or they haven't put him on there yet. 2463 02:30:23,670 --> 02:30:27,870 Um, no, he's not on yet. But then I said, Oh, my God, I had 2464 02:30:27,870 --> 02:30:33,300 just planned on bringing up the Obama body count. And do you 2465 02:30:33,300 --> 02:30:35,580 want to just because you know, when you think about how many 2466 02:30:35,580 --> 02:30:39,390 people have died in association with the Obama administration, 2467 02:30:39,390 --> 02:30:41,280 let's just put it politely. 2468 02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:45,840 Yeah, but this is all during the Hillary Clinton. Secretary of 2469 02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:46,380 State. 2470 02:30:46,830 --> 02:30:50,790 No, no, no, no, no, this I haven't forgotten how many 2471 02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:51,750 people have croak. 2472 02:30:51,780 --> 02:30:52,950 Oh, it goes back further. 2473 02:30:52,980 --> 02:30:55,320 Oh, my God. Okay, 2474 02:30:55,380 --> 02:30:57,720 I'm all yours now. Okay. 2475 02:30:57,810 --> 02:31:02,910 Mama Louise Anderson, as 79 and her 52 year old daughters elder 2476 02:31:02,910 --> 02:31:07,020 white, the two women aid workers who were shot dead in Nairobi, 2477 02:31:07,020 --> 02:31:12,210 Kenya in 2008. Of course, you know, they, they probably, you 2478 02:31:12,210 --> 02:31:15,510 know, the rumor was that they probably knew something about 2479 02:31:15,510 --> 02:31:19,680 the true origins of the of the President, Lieutenant Colonel 2480 02:31:19,680 --> 02:31:23,430 Christopher rabl. And Sergeant Bradley as well died in Camp 2481 02:31:23,430 --> 02:31:26,430 Bastion. That was three days after Benghazi has never been 2482 02:31:26,430 --> 02:31:28,920 talked about. By the way, no one has really brought even we 2483 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:34,140 haven't brought that up. Muhammad Buche tea. This is the 2484 02:31:34,230 --> 02:31:38,310 Tunisian guy that they had to get rid of because of course, 2485 02:31:38,310 --> 02:31:43,050 Tunisia helped set up the fake kidnapping that went wrong. Jeff 2486 02:31:43,050 --> 02:31:47,340 Joe Black, found dead on hiking trail from blunt force trauma to 2487 02:31:47,340 --> 02:31:50,070 the head. He's the Chicago activists who claim that Rahm 2488 02:31:50,070 --> 02:31:53,190 Emanuel was put into place in Chicago to oversee a coming 2489 02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:58,350 false flag event. Larry bland and Nate Spencer, two members of 2490 02:31:58,350 --> 02:32:02,790 the Trinity Church murdered at the same time. Andrew Breitbart 2491 02:32:02,820 --> 02:32:06,810 Well, of course, Steve bridges, the member this guy, the 2492 02:32:06,810 --> 02:32:10,320 impersonator who offended President Obama remember the guy 2493 02:32:10,320 --> 02:32:13,950 who did Bush did Obama and then it Obama and then he did he die? 2494 02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:15,960 I don't remember him dying. Yeah, 2495 02:32:15,960 --> 02:32:19,650 we talked about we must have talked to I forgot about that. 2496 02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:23,100 This is August. Freshman Obama No wonder none of these 2497 02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:27,870 impressions do Obama. Back guys did the best impression was this 2498 02:32:27,870 --> 02:32:29,400 guy. Well, what happened? He's dead. 2499 02:32:29,430 --> 02:32:33,180 Yeah, murdered by that impression. And he and he died 2500 02:32:33,210 --> 02:32:37,830 by anaphylaxis. This is like you know, eating a bad peanut 2501 02:32:37,890 --> 02:32:40,140 essentially, and being allergic 2502 02:32:40,380 --> 02:32:41,520 to shellfish poisoning. 2503 02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:45,720 Robin Copeland, former Energy Department official who took 2504 02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:48,420 part in several significant disarmament programs died 2505 02:32:48,420 --> 02:32:51,060 suddenly on people always die with heart attacks or some weird 2506 02:32:51,060 --> 02:32:56,160 thing. Oh, very young. prusik acid. Michael Cormier, forensic 2507 02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:59,340 technician, he's the guy who was the corner on Breitbart. 2508 02:32:59,340 --> 02:33:05,100 Remember that guy died? Remember that? Yeah. Madeline Payne 2509 02:33:05,100 --> 02:33:08,280 Dunham. Obama's grandmother died two days before the general 2510 02:33:08,280 --> 02:33:11,310 election. He flew out to see her for one hour alone. No records 2511 02:33:11,310 --> 02:33:14,790 cremated immediately ashes dispersed. That's kind of crude. 2512 02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:18,750 Beverly Eckerd. The Continental flight victim she was 911 with 2513 02:33:18,750 --> 02:33:23,550 the widow who was making a lot of noise members. She was member 2514 02:33:23,550 --> 02:33:29,820 her. Yeah. Of course extortion 17. That is the Chinook 2515 02:33:29,850 --> 02:33:33,660 helicopter helicopter callsign extortion 17 shot down while 2516 02:33:33,660 --> 02:33:39,450 transporting the Navy SEALs, 2517 02:33:39,690 --> 02:33:43,470 right? Yeah, we find that to be suspicious SHA 2518 02:33:43,980 --> 02:33:47,130 Bill gwatney close friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton a 2519 02:33:47,130 --> 02:33:51,630 Clinton superdelegate was fatally shot in 2008 shooter had 2520 02:33:51,630 --> 02:33:55,830 a post it note with a mystery phone number. I'm not quite sure 2521 02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:59,370 why that was linked to Obama, Lieutenant querries Harris Jr. 2522 02:33:59,370 --> 02:34:02,430 key witness and federal probe into passport information stolen 2523 02:34:02,430 --> 02:34:03,780 from the State Department. 2524 02:34:04,050 --> 02:34:07,770 Oh, remember that. That's also Hillary. Yeah, but 2525 02:34:07,770 --> 02:34:11,250 what's interesting, Obama's passport breach and Astrid 2526 02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:13,890 unanswered questions. Harris worked for a security firm run 2527 02:34:13,890 --> 02:34:19,290 by John Brennan. Later to be a terrorism adviser to Obama 2528 02:34:19,290 --> 02:34:23,490 listed as detail in YouTube video which was an employee of 2529 02:34:23,490 --> 02:34:26,580 John Brennan when murdered and Brennan Of course, as is now 2530 02:34:26,580 --> 02:34:31,470 head of the CIA, NDP heart Guantanamo attorney assigned to 2531 02:34:31,470 --> 02:34:36,360 defend Muhammad Rahim al Afghani and he died. Michael Hastings is 2532 02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:42,240 in here. He was in Benghazi attack suspect dies in Cairo 2533 02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:46,860 shootout. Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She's the one that she the one 2534 02:34:46,860 --> 02:34:50,400 that crashed her car in the garage. Remember that? 2535 02:34:51,420 --> 02:34:52,980 These are ludicrous. Yeah. 2536 02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:59,130 David Kaufman murder in Chicago rush street brawl by a nephew of 2537 02:34:59,130 --> 02:35:03,210 Mayor Daley. The White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley, the 2538 02:35:03,210 --> 02:35:09,630 Crim children oh yeah that was the the the writer no wait a 2539 02:35:09,630 --> 02:35:14,790 minute yeah CNBC exec children. That's right. Nanny stabbed 2540 02:35:14,790 --> 02:35:20,250 herself upon mother's arrival Uh huh. Calm Quwata we know that is 2541 02:35:20,250 --> 02:35:26,790 that was the guy who who told people about the weird Obama 2542 02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:32,760 ritual going on at the at the National Assembly. What do you 2543 02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:33,060 call it 2544 02:35:33,060 --> 02:35:34,350 name was kumquat 2545 02:35:34,500 --> 02:35:39,450 calm Quwata any wild memory then any wound up dead? 2546 02:35:39,660 --> 02:35:40,620 Yeah, I remember that 2547 02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:45,060 vaguely Chris Kyle. Of course, American Sniper. We know him. 2548 02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:50,760 Got no props, even though he was a prominent seal. Yep, yep, he 2549 02:35:50,760 --> 02:35:55,830 just died. Marco McMillan, Mississippi's first gay mayoral 2550 02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:59,940 candidate 34 beaten and burned body dumped out in the 2551 02:35:59,940 --> 02:36:05,550 riverbank. Stephanie Moses, NYPD Sergeant photograph with Obama 2552 02:36:05,550 --> 02:36:11,700 at 911 ceremony found dead and apparent suicide. And that's all 2553 02:36:11,880 --> 02:36:13,860 this is a pretty good documentary. I mean, the list 2554 02:36:13,860 --> 02:36:19,950 goes on and on and on and on and on. And of course, there's you 2555 02:36:19,950 --> 02:36:23,730 know, all the other all the gay guys in Chicago who got killed. 2556 02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:28,800 There's the gay kid who was working for the Obama campaign 2557 02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:30,990 and Chicago headquarters who dropped out of everyone's a 2558 02:36:30,990 --> 02:36:34,350 heart attack with those around here. Everybody's a fucking 2559 02:36:34,350 --> 02:36:38,670 heart attack. So it's a pretty good list. 2560 02:36:42,030 --> 02:36:43,920 Yeah, that's a damn good list. 2561 02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:47,340 And and I liked this list, because it has a lot of links to 2562 02:36:47,340 --> 02:36:51,750 the original stories. Now your Clinton body count? I mean, that 2563 02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:55,230 lists I mean, that's they've categorized by numbers and bed. 2564 02:36:55,230 --> 02:36:57,450 Yeah, no, they're almost like it's like the Library of 2565 02:36:57,450 --> 02:36:59,940 Congress. Workouts as much 2566 02:36:59,970 --> 02:37:05,910 it's as much information as the Library of Congress. Yeah, so 2567 02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:11,190 maybe, if you're just if you if you're well known, maybe just 2568 02:37:11,190 --> 02:37:14,490 know when people die around you. It's just no. But I don't know 2569 02:37:14,490 --> 02:37:18,660 that many people who've died of horrible deaths this around, but 2570 02:37:18,660 --> 02:37:19,770 I know a lot of people. 2571 02:37:20,340 --> 02:37:23,040 Yeah, they over the ledge just over a couple of years. This is 2572 02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:26,640 not like a lifetime of people dropping 2573 02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:28,350 dead Lifetime Achievement Award. 2574 02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:32,220 And yeah, I know, people that have died to that or, you know, 2575 02:37:32,460 --> 02:37:36,060 here and there. But it's not more than a few dozen people. 2576 02:37:36,090 --> 02:37:39,660 Yeah. And it's not like, you know, burning up in your garage. 2577 02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:42,240 Yeah. And they're all just yeah, they're dead. They died in their 2578 02:37:42,240 --> 02:37:45,510 sleep or something. They weren't roaming around. Yeah. They're in 2579 02:37:45,510 --> 02:37:50,880 the hospital. They had cancer. Yeah. You know, Steve Jobs took 2580 02:37:50,880 --> 02:37:53,460 forever to die. And it's not like these guys just dropped 2581 02:37:53,460 --> 02:37:53,760 dead. 2582 02:37:53,790 --> 02:37:56,520 Oh, by the way, take a look at the list. And you're telling me 2583 02:37:56,520 --> 02:37:59,070 how many of these people died of cancer? None. 2584 02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:03,690 Right, which is very suspicious. And was everyone I know is 2585 02:38:03,690 --> 02:38:05,850 either it most of them actually have died from cancer. 2586 02:38:06,930 --> 02:38:11,130 So on Tuesday, it will be a very, very big day. And I'll be 2587 02:38:11,130 --> 02:38:13,440 paying a lot of attention working very, very hard and 2588 02:38:13,440 --> 02:38:17,670 everybody's behalf so you don't have to. And that means mainly 2589 02:38:17,670 --> 02:38:20,400 there'll be documents to read lots of documents, and I can 2590 02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:23,310 already tell you what it's going to be. We will be shutting down 2591 02:38:23,310 --> 02:38:28,050 the coal plants with new regulation or rules or law of 2592 02:38:28,050 --> 02:38:30,420 rule or whatever it is. And the President has done a little 2593 02:38:30,540 --> 02:38:33,600 promo video which he has on the whitehouse.gov and 2594 02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:36,120 America would respond to the growing threat of climate change 2595 02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:39,930 for the sake of our children, and future generations. This 2596 02:38:39,930 --> 02:38:42,510 Tuesday at Georgetown University, I'll lay out my 2597 02:38:42,510 --> 02:38:46,230 vision for where I believe we need to go. A national plan to 2598 02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:49,710 reduce carbon pollution prepare our country for the impacts of 2599 02:38:49,710 --> 02:38:54,240 climate change, and lead global efforts to fight. This is a 2600 02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:57,480 serious challenge, but it's one uniquely suited to America's 2601 02:38:57,480 --> 02:38:57,990 strengths. 2602 02:38:59,160 --> 02:39:02,310 I want to say something about this video. The music track is 2603 02:39:02,310 --> 02:39:08,010 very loud. And it's an I sound tried to sound hounded and it 2604 02:39:08,010 --> 02:39:12,450 sounds like it sounds like a Jay Z track who stole it from 2605 02:39:12,450 --> 02:39:19,440 Prince. Timmy Dude, it sounds like diamonds and pearls are 2606 02:39:19,440 --> 02:39:23,640 what it sounds like dead Ed. But it's it has kind of that Jay Z 2607 02:39:23,640 --> 02:39:28,140 vibe to it kind of like in New York. But why does he have to 2608 02:39:28,140 --> 02:39:32,520 have this whole stylize thing in the music and and of course 2609 02:39:32,520 --> 02:39:36,360 again, we're seeing waves crashing up against the Jersey 2610 02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:41,760 Shore and who didn't put polar bears in this time. But so 2611 02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:46,050 Tuesday Tuesday don't miss it Tuesday, scientists design new 2612 02:39:46,050 --> 02:39:49,920 fuels, farmers to grow. will need engineers will design new 2613 02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:54,480 fuels and tell you how farmers can grow them. Nice generis 2614 02:39:54,480 --> 02:39:57,540 to devise new sources of energy and businesses to make and sell 2615 02:39:57,540 --> 02:40:01,140 them will need workers to build the farm foundation for a clean 2616 02:40:01,140 --> 02:40:06,360 energy economy. I will need all of our citizens to do our part 2617 02:40:06,390 --> 02:40:10,260 to preserve God's creation for future generations of forests 2618 02:40:10,260 --> 02:40:15,120 and waterways, or crop lands and snow capped peaks. There is no 2619 02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:18,300 single step that can reverse the effects of climate change. But 2620 02:40:18,300 --> 02:40:21,360 when it comes to the world, we leave our children. We owe it to 2621 02:40:21,360 --> 02:40:24,960 them to do what we can. So I hope you'll share this message 2622 02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:28,170 with your friends. Because this is a challenge that affects 2623 02:40:28,170 --> 02:40:33,240 everyone. And we all have a stake in solving it together. I 2624 02:40:33,240 --> 02:40:39,390 hope to see you Tuesday. Thanks. Kami, me diamonds and 2625 02:40:42,060 --> 02:40:49,200 that's kind of a creepy, weird music stinks. By the way. Did 2626 02:40:49,200 --> 02:40:52,530 you ever notice that the you know, the Brits have a 2627 02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:55,650 complimentary operation? Of course, this is how they 2628 02:40:55,650 --> 02:40:59,220 exchange data. They spy on us and we spy on them. Your stuff 2629 02:40:59,220 --> 02:41:00,060 and you give us stuff? 2630 02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:01,860 Yeah, they've got GQ or whatever. 2631 02:41:02,040 --> 02:41:05,130 GCHQ Have you ever looked at their building and tell me what 2632 02:41:05,130 --> 02:41:05,850 it reminds you? 2633 02:41:05,910 --> 02:41:13,320 It reminds me either a Mercedes logo, not kind of like a CEO 2634 02:41:13,320 --> 02:41:13,470 when 2635 02:41:13,470 --> 02:41:14,280 we're building? 2636 02:41:16,320 --> 02:41:19,500 Yeah, the new one. You mean? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. What do 2637 02:41:19,500 --> 02:41:24,060 they have? Like kind of some weird star configuration over 2638 02:41:24,060 --> 02:41:25,260 three points? 2639 02:41:25,410 --> 02:41:31,620 is a three point deal on there. Yeah. 3.63 point deals. A hell 2640 02:41:31,620 --> 02:41:32,220 of a building. 2641 02:41:32,220 --> 02:41:33,480 It's a nice design. 2642 02:41:35,250 --> 02:41:37,350 Yeah, except if you're on one end, you have to get to the 2643 02:41:37,350 --> 02:41:41,220 other. Like there's a bunch I guess you can cut through. Did 2644 02:41:41,220 --> 02:41:42,030 huge building 2645 02:41:42,540 --> 02:41:43,530 cut through 2646 02:41:44,700 --> 02:41:47,040 it? What are you doing? I'm cutting through the courtyard 2647 02:41:47,490 --> 02:41:48,150 through air. 2648 02:41:50,220 --> 02:41:55,830 have two things to wind up with. I got I got the Minister of the 2649 02:41:55,830 --> 02:42:02,100 UK GMO nation, East Minister of Agriculture or something. And 2650 02:42:02,100 --> 02:42:07,140 you know that the European Union is against genetically modified 2651 02:42:07,470 --> 02:42:10,410 crops. They say they are but there's all kinds of evidence 2652 02:42:10,410 --> 02:42:11,670 that they're not. Yeah, 2653 02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:13,890 this would be one of them. So they've got a field where 2654 02:42:13,890 --> 02:42:16,950 they're testing some stuff. And there's a whole report and I've 2655 02:42:16,950 --> 02:42:18,780 just got a little clip of it because I thought that was kind 2656 02:42:18,780 --> 02:42:23,970 of funny. The guy's clearly trying to sway our opinion of 2657 02:42:23,970 --> 02:42:26,220 genetically modified foods and crops 2658 02:42:27,930 --> 02:42:30,900 are controlled. The Environment Secretary wants to rehabilitate 2659 02:42:30,900 --> 02:42:34,140 GM technology. It'll help to feed the world's billions he 2660 02:42:34,140 --> 02:42:37,980 says and put the UK at the forefront of an agricultural and 2661 02:42:37,980 --> 02:42:41,850 economic revolution in very large parts of the world. This 2662 02:42:41,850 --> 02:42:45,360 isn't some strange spooky innovation, being led by funny 2663 02:42:45,360 --> 02:42:48,870 professors with spiky hair and flapping codes. This is an 2664 02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:51,120 absolute standard part of everyday life. 2665 02:42:53,790 --> 02:43:00,180 No, I think it is done by very funny. Okay. And I want to say 2666 02:43:00,180 --> 02:43:04,590 hello to our friends in Australia, who a lot of them 2667 02:43:04,590 --> 02:43:07,590 listen, a lot of them support the show. A lot of them have 2668 02:43:07,590 --> 02:43:10,710 said thank you so much for recognizing that we really we 2669 02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:13,440 actually kind of really do hate it when you talk about Australia 2670 02:43:13,440 --> 02:43:17,730 and you do a stupid lame ass Australian accent. I think I got 2671 02:43:17,730 --> 02:43:20,580 confirmation that they that is quite annoying to them, so I'm 2672 02:43:20,580 --> 02:43:25,080 not going to do it. I will have replay this bit, which is a 2673 02:43:25,080 --> 02:43:30,090 piece of news which is all about the the pedo Bear Down Under 2674 02:43:30,360 --> 02:43:30,630 Well, New 2675 02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:34,290 South Wales Police had admitted it shredding all documents of 2676 02:43:34,290 --> 02:43:37,830 the forces involvement with a key Catholic Church bodies set 2677 02:43:37,830 --> 02:43:42,360 up to deal with sex abuse cases. The sex Crime Squad officer on 2678 02:43:42,360 --> 02:43:45,090 the church body destroyed all her documents after each 2679 02:43:45,090 --> 02:43:48,030 meeting. The top level group established by the church's 2680 02:43:48,030 --> 02:43:52,020 bishops met monthly with a senior police woman for at least 2681 02:43:52,020 --> 02:43:55,140 three hours over many years after being contacted by 2682 02:43:55,140 --> 02:43:58,290 Nightline. The New South Wales, Police Minister Mike Gallagher 2683 02:43:58,290 --> 02:44:00,870 has now demanded an urgent briefing from his police 2684 02:44:00,870 --> 02:44:03,930 commissioner and the former Director of Public Prosecutions 2685 02:44:03,930 --> 02:44:07,530 in New South Wales has described the police actions as destroying 2686 02:44:07,530 --> 02:44:10,440 evidence yeah yeah, thank 2687 02:44:11,430 --> 02:44:14,100 you public person does that and next thing you know they're in 2688 02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:15,900 the into the slammer. Yeah. 2689 02:44:16,440 --> 02:44:19,440 So let me see you say had a meeting and like oh, man, Oh, 2690 02:44:19,440 --> 02:44:21,840 damn. We got like we got some problems here. We got these 2691 02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:25,590 bishops and like, you know, the sodomized and kids and good 2692 02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:28,500 meeting All right, everybody. All right. Who's shredding 2693 02:44:28,500 --> 02:44:30,930 today? Good meeting. 2694 02:44:33,990 --> 02:44:36,420 Well, I have one last clip from the 2695 02:44:36,449 --> 02:44:39,299 Can you bring us out? Can you lift us up? Can you lift our 2696 02:44:39,299 --> 02:44:39,779 Yeah, yeah. 2697 02:44:39,780 --> 02:44:42,750 This will do it uplifting and make it but I've closed the 2698 02:44:42,750 --> 02:44:44,730 show. It has always been uplifting and this will be one 2699 02:44:44,730 --> 02:44:47,580 of them. This is the this is the again to caucus. They were 2700 02:44:47,580 --> 02:44:52,740 talking to the the helpers of the congressman. And this is 2701 02:44:52,740 --> 02:44:57,810 from the ACLU woman and you know she's ACLU is always uplifting. 2702 02:44:57,840 --> 02:45:01,620 This is the American Civil Liberties. union? Yes, that's 2703 02:45:01,620 --> 02:45:04,590 a group of lawyers that Sue's everybody, every time anybody's 2704 02:45:04,590 --> 02:45:07,890 liberties are violated no matter who they are. Right. And this is 2705 02:45:07,890 --> 02:45:10,740 the clip called good one from the ACLU. 2706 02:45:11,640 --> 02:45:14,910 So far, Congress has allowed the intelligence committees to do 2707 02:45:14,910 --> 02:45:18,720 secret oversight of secret programs allowed under secret 2708 02:45:18,720 --> 02:45:21,720 court orders, and it has led to the collection of every 2709 02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:25,350 American's phone calls. This cannot continue. We need to pull 2710 02:45:25,350 --> 02:45:28,440 this information out into the public sphere so the rank and 2711 02:45:28,440 --> 02:45:31,680 file members can understand what they've authorized so the public 2712 02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:34,740 can understand how the government spies on them, and 2713 02:45:34,740 --> 02:45:36,900 people can make an informed decision about whether these 2714 02:45:36,900 --> 02:45:41,430 programs should continue. But secret oversight is not working. 2715 02:45:41,670 --> 02:45:44,730 And from the information that's been leaked over the last couple 2716 02:45:44,730 --> 02:45:47,640 of weeks it's pretty clear that some of this information has 2717 02:45:47,640 --> 02:45:52,410 unnecessarily been kept secret and that your bosses with your 2718 02:45:52,410 --> 02:45:55,650 advice need to make some very strong decisions here about 2719 02:45:55,650 --> 02:45:56,550 what's appropriate. 2720 02:45:56,970 --> 02:45:59,190 Yeah, sounds like there's a lot of things secret things going 2721 02:45:59,190 --> 02:46:04,920 on. secret secret I thought this was the most transparent 2722 02:46:05,250 --> 02:46:08,730 administration in the history I thought history of the universe 2723 02:46:09,420 --> 02:46:13,020 My goodness alright everybody that's gonna have to do it. We 2724 02:46:13,020 --> 02:46:16,560 need to move on with things got to produce this show. I dare I 2725 02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:20,850 asked if you're going to go up north today John. Are you going 2726 02:46:20,850 --> 02:46:21,300 up north? 2727 02:46:23,070 --> 02:46:25,170 No, no, no, I've got got some some 2728 02:46:25,470 --> 02:46:28,560 you got some stuff to do? It looks like there will be a no 2729 02:46:28,560 --> 02:46:32,640 agenda producer update on the stream. So all of y'all y'all 2730 02:46:32,640 --> 02:46:35,670 have y'all can stay tuned for that. That's funny. Actually. I 2731 02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:37,530 got an email from the White House. Did you get the email 2732 02:46:37,530 --> 02:46:38,310 from the White House? 2733 02:46:39,090 --> 02:46:41,190 I get a lot of emails from the White House you might as well 2734 02:46:41,190 --> 02:46:42,240 read yours Well, 2735 02:46:42,270 --> 02:46:45,240 it was just funny the way it opened this is from some was 2736 02:46:45,240 --> 02:46:49,110 what $5 For some reason so this is this is about the nonpartisan 2737 02:46:49,110 --> 02:46:53,220 experts who estimate the financial it is about the 2738 02:46:53,220 --> 02:46:57,090 immigration bill but it starts off with hi all am like oh my 2739 02:46:57,090 --> 02:47:00,900 god pile. Yes. That's what it is. Hi. Oh, 2740 02:47:01,080 --> 02:47:06,420 hi. Oh, hi, Ohio. Hi, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio. No jack 2741 02:47:06,420 --> 02:47:07,410 this exactly what it is. You 2742 02:47:07,440 --> 02:47:13,320 can't believe she actually said hi all I mean, wow. How well hi 2743 02:47:13,320 --> 02:47:17,610 all to you, everybody. And thank you very much for being with us. 2744 02:47:17,610 --> 02:47:21,570 Remember to work that org slash n a is where you can support the 2745 02:47:21,570 --> 02:47:24,720 program so we can bring you more of this. We look forward to 2746 02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:28,290 doing that. Exactly that coming to you from the capital of the 2747 02:47:28,290 --> 02:47:30,690 drone Star State in the morning everybody. My name is Adam 2748 02:47:30,690 --> 02:47:31,320 curry, 2749 02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:36,690 and from Northern Silicon Valley, the mecca of DECA. I'm 2750 02:47:36,690 --> 02:47:37,770 John C. Dvorak. We'll 2751 02:47:37,770 --> 02:47:40,500 be back on Thursday right here with no agenda. 2752 02:47:44,640 --> 02:47:48,690 If you wake up with the blues, Jennifer, you're gay with news. 2753 02:47:49,200 --> 02:47:53,640 There's one thing you must remember no agenda and moanin. 2754 02:47:53,849 --> 02:47:59,819 For a healthy balanced news diet. Try no agenda show.com to 2755 02:47:59,819 --> 02:48:03,329 vorak.org/n A