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What is an artisan?

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Your guys who make pots.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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June 27 2013 Time for your gizmo
nation media assassination

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episode five to five. This is no
agenda. A full fledged member of

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the Flat Earth Society here in
the traverse high tide out in

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Austin, Texas in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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and I'm from Northern Silicon
Valley, the mecca of something.

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I'm John C. Dvorak. Vaughn
Buzzkill.

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Use your new moniker man. Are
you good? The mecca of something

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great. And that's just great.

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That sucked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a
little bit. Okay.

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So it's warm out there. You said
earlier? Oh, really? What war?

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What is warm is that 80? Is that
what's warm? 80 is

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hot for us. Because of the
nature of the barometric

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pressure and the humidity and
the variables. It's very

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different. It's and we don't
have any cooling mechanisms.

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You have no air conditioning,
right? That's sort of the main

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problem. But that's okay.

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It's winding up. This will be
hot for a few days. And then

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generally speaking,
traditionally, on July the

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forest just before the
fireworks, yeah, the fog rolls.

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And that's

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right. And then you can see the
fireworks. I know. We were in

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San Francisco for two July
fours. And it's like we there's

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one building that has a party on
the rooftop. Remember that? You

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could just see pew pew. A couple
of rockets just come on above

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the fog layer. Funny, that
doesn't matter. Because it'll I

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presume the city is just one big
party right now. Have you not

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gone down to the to the
district? If not

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news? Yeah, I

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must admit everyone must be
going insane.

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And I'm sure they're all
crediting the fact that it's a

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conservative Supreme Court. It's
funny, notice it, anyone said

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no, no, no, no, I

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saw some of my Obama bought
friends. You know, their brain

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was getting scrambled like, I
don't understand how was it

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possible? What how can the
Republican guys do this? You

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know, man, I mean, I spent so
much time yesterday

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understanding what actually went
down and for those of you who

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are who are new to the program,
and I'm sure a lot of listeners

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from other countries probably
only got the news in the

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following manner. Highest Court
in America says gay marriage.

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Okay. I think that's probably
the message actly

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what they said, but yeah, but

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Well, no, that's that's what the
news is. I'm pretty sure that's

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what the news is. Yeah. And
that's how it's being accepted.

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But this is not about marriage
at all. I don't I don't think

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people understand the
significance of what happened

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here. I mean, what is your take
on this John as a as a gay man

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yourself? What is your take on?

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It's a time to celebrate? Run
around in a circle waving your

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arms? today? Yay. Yeah, yeah,
no, no, there's

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there's a lot of things going on
here with this. This is the

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Defense of Marriage Act. And it
is kind of that

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was doomed that we knew is gonna
get chucked out. But they had to

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two things. One was in
California, we had proper

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opposition. Yeah. Which was the
initiative that we didn't allow

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gay marriage in California and
kept get voting you they they

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kept, you know, this is going to
come up again. Because the

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here's the way that the thing
went down to begin with some

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time back. I can't remember what
the original proposition was.

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But it voted gay marriage out.
You want gay marriage go

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someplace else. And so everyone
was you know, the gays roll

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around about this, but everyone
was nobody else was, didn't

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think much about so there. So
they went to court and they did

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some craziness. And they got to
think thrown out and referendums

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and initiatives in California
are really important. We liked

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the idea that we can just vote
in a law. So there was a

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backlash against the back door,
removal of this initiative. And

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so they came up with Prop Eight,
and then they voted it in. And

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so then they again, there's no
gay marriage, and they were and

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I think the reason it got voted
into the second time was because

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the certain liberal elements of
the society were gloating about

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it, I can't do anything about it
now and one of the main one was

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Gavin Gavin Newsom. And so they
voted it again. So now went to

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the Supreme Court now they got
thrown out again, because it got

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it's gonna, this is never going
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win. Let me back up for a second
because what you need to

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understand in this and this is
what I found, I found the

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process to me as a government
legislation analyst is really

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kind of fun. So when you look at
what exactly is the DOMA as it's

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called, I'm bet you if you went
on the street and ask people

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that 90% wouldn't even know what
have stood for but

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they know what they would
encounter around here, they

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would say it's a stuffed grape
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And it's tasty. DOMA the Defense
of Marriage Act that by itself

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is it fits on one page, it fits
on half a page actually. And

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what it did is it added a number
of paragraphs, actually, to,

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specifically to the US law and
kind of the rulebook at the very

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beginning of our United States
Code. So that's all of the law.

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It has a number of definitions,
we talked about one of the

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previous show, which is the
definition of what a person is

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US persons. And so that's in
there. And it says, you know, a

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person is a company, a
corporation, so all the things

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that everyone always laughs
about, it actually says that

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there, and the Defense of
Marriage Act, which was signed

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into law in 1996, by President
Bill Clinton, has two additions

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to the definition. One is
section, paragraph two, which

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shows up as I think paragraph
seven in the actual US Code says

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no state territory or possession
of the United States or Indian

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tribes shall be required to give
effect to any public act record

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or judicial proceeding of any
other state, territory,

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possession or tribe, respecting
relationship between persons of

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the same sex that is treated as
a marriage under the laws of

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such other state territory,
possession, or tribe or a right

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or claim, arising from such
relationship. This has been left

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in place and was not ruled on by
the Supreme Court. And the way I

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understand that kind of long
text is no state has the right

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over any other state, which is
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work in our Federalist system.
Right? Section three is the one

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that the Supreme Court has
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what that exactly means is what
I'd like to talk about. But let

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me read specifically section
three. And this is, and this

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happens a lot when, when Judge
In fact, most lawsuits are about

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the meaning of the word. And
this is why we love talking

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about words, we look up the
definition of words all the

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time. So the definition of
marriage, which you can find in

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many dictionaries, and many
dictionaries have different

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definitions. In fact,
interesting that the Supreme

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Court did not reference any
dictionaries in this case, the

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definition of marriage,
according to and this was added

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as paragraph seven, the
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before we get to the US Code, in
determining the meaning of any

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act of Congress, or of any
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interpretation of the various
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agencies of the United States.
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legal union between one man and
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and the word spouse refers only
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whose me who was a husband or
wife. Now, here's what I find

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interesting. Everyone's jumping
up and down celebrating saying,

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Oh, yes, the Supreme Court has
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Well, so here is the key. To me
the key point and of course, you

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know, there's lots of other
things that we need to talk

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about specifically when it comes
to when you know, what defines

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marriage. But the Supreme Court
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phrase, they didn't say, oh, you
know, it can be one person of

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any gender. They just said, this
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is unconstitutional. And this is
now and this is what surprises

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me, been taken by everyone is
off perfect done part time. I

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get to file joint taxes. And
everyone's like, loving the fact

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that now you know that they're
being ruled over even more by

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the government. But strangely
enough, aren't we supposed to

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isn't Congress in charge of
doing this? Does the supreme

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court now decide who's in
charge? Are they now do they

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determine law?

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Well, they are the oversight of
the of the laws and yeah, they

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can do that is what they do. And
so once three parts of the of

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the government, there's the
judicial executive and the

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legislative and any one of them
can't can can create laws,

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right? So they don't, but the
Supreme Court doesn't do it out

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of the blue.

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Right. So So now, okay, but
don't they need to put because

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I've read both the dissent and
the the what does it call the

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the opinion and the dissenting
opinion? Yeah, okay. So as a bi

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curious male here's my question.
I am Can I not? No, say that I

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am being discriminated against
because I am torn obviously, and

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it is LGB B T. So I'm a I'm
bisexual. In the making? I'm

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still bi curious, but when I
become bisexual, do I then not

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have the right to be married to
both a man and a woman?

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And can I think there's Another
US Code about bigamy. They are

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not begging me yeah bigamy where
you can't be married to two

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people at the same time. I think
it's a different part of the

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law.

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And let me ask you a specific
question. Why is that?

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Well, I've always been against
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But I'm asking you a question.
Why is the government involved

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in marriage at all? What what
does

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it say that, you know, marriage,
the government should be

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involved in, in in essentially,
licensing businesses. So you

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know, these these relationships
where you you form a kind of a

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joint operation? You're Yeah,

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when we, we have companies, we
have companies with multiple

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shareholders, there was

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between two people, the the
churches are the only ones that

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really because it's kind of a
religious thing to get married,

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per se.

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But that's what's happening. I'm
not interested in that. I'm

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interested in why the government
specific government

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has to make determine it,
because it's in their best

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interest. I have some clue and
some rigid rules about how they

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dole out their their
compensation when they you got

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somebody on a health care plan,
does your wife get part of it?

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And what is your wife's a guy
and you're a guide? Does he get

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part of it? It's a mess.

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Stay with me, this is this is
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understand. At what point did it
become an incentive? And to be

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married? And why has the
government been sponsoring this?

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I mean, it's not it's not about
children, because we don't have

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rules about how many it's not
China. There's no rules about

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how many kids you can or can't
have? What is the whole thing

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seems to be enslavement to me
the whole concept?

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Well, I think that's what it
amounts to. But what it what it

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stems from is doling out
benefits. Right? Because if you

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are a slave, yes, you have to
get you know that you get they

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got to give you a food they got
to give you some bowl of

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porridge, right. And so that
that takes the form of health

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care and in today's world,
because it's so it's, it's

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ridiculously expensive in the
United States that we are our

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greatest health care system was
a complete scam. Based, you

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know, because of the it's just a
scam. Let's face it, right. And

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so they, they this is the whole
gay marriage thing to me has

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always been about benefits. So
they,

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yes, and here's the thing. I see
my, my gay friends, they're

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they're extremely happy that now
they can file jointly. And in

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some cases, that's very
beneficial. But I can just see

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that this doesn't will this not
open up? This? Is this is gonna

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go on forever now. Because why
would you not have the right to

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have a polyamorous marriage?

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I think that would be the next
step.

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And by the way, there's, you
know, the Mormons are, you know,

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there's a lot of people who
already kind of live that way.

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And this has to be the next
step. Because this is about

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discrimination of benefits. And
what difference does it make?

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Can I can I not have a great
family with you know, maybe, you

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know, maybe Mickey wants to
husband's it. What is wrong

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about that? Do you just let's
just be really honest about the

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conversation. You can't say that
that's not okay.

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You can't keep up on

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what's gonna extend the offer to
you, but you know, blow it now.

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Good luck. So, this to me, no,
I'm very interested in talking

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to the choir here. I've always
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is simple, is like now let's say
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can maintain a relationship with
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guys have done it. Many of them
the women are happy because they

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don't have one guy hounding them
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just generalized for a moment
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doing a good job with them. He's
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corporation. And he's got like,
40 kids, right. And now he goes

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to work for you know, they are
TSA, and they got to give

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benefits to like seven wives and
kids, you know, what that would

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cost them? The guys make, we
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beginning a million dollars
worth of benefits. They're not

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gonna put up with this.

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Right. Right. Well, the whole
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were two sessions. One Well,
there were multiple things the

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President called some people
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it was, it was pretty, it's a
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gratulations but my bullshit
detector went off so bad. And it

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it. This has the Defense of
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has never really been about gay
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has the right to decide about
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Is it Congress, or is it the
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the state should have the full
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Most of the analysis I've seen
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and they did throw out the
California deal. So that can be

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but that can be reversed with
another law, right? But there's

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36 Like 34 states that prohibit
gay marriage and they everyone

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says that that's still in play,
you're still prohibited from gay

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marriage in these states. And so
I don't see that anything's

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really changed. The only reason
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is because that again, they
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where the specific law that was
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overturned is null and void. So
there was gonna go crazy getting

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married over, you know, this was
the this was done on The

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Simpsons episode where, where
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or started doing marriages, and
he was making money hand over

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fist. Hey, Ron. Yeah, I mean,
this is a way to where they're

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low donations, we

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can we're, we're both licensed,
right? I'm like, yeah, 100 bucks

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a pop Universal Life Church, we
can do all kinds of marriages.

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Yeah. And of course, you get all
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yes, this has always been about
the whole thing stems from a

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lawsuit, which is kind of funny,
because there was lawsuit and

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the woman's partner died. And
this woman, I forget her name

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she, Edwina. She had to pay
$350,000 in taxes, which he

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would not have had to pay if
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That's that's really what this
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that.

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Right. And I think that there
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lawsuit. And yes, it was
horrible that you get screwed.

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But what's interesting is that
everyone agreed. The

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administration agreed, and
everyone's like, yeah, that's no

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good. That's no good. That's no
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it. In fact, that's even what
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Why, why is this case here?
Everyone agrees? Why do we have

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to make a decision? And I think,

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yeah, they were a little irked
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sent most of it back down. But
you need to

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people need to understand that.
Yeah, we're really happy about

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this. But what will it be next
time that the Supreme Court just

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decides to, you know, is going
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think we need to be a little bit
careful about. What

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not buying, what do you mean,
you're not buying it and not

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worry about anything? I mean,
it's just the way it is. So

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where the system works, it has
this these elements I think is

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over, you know, overplayed? I
think Aaron was a little too

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enthusiastic. But you know, they
you can they they're just

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looking for an excuse to party.

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That's really what it is. It's
just an excuse to party. I don't

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know. I don't know either

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way. So you said you got my
clips. And you said use use?

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You've got the same clip. And I
can look at my clipless and tell

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you which one or two it is no,
you get one?

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Yes. And one guess only
ShotSpotter? No.

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Oh, the spinning mommy. Yes.

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I was saving that for second
half when we can't talk about

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that. You want to say that? I
want to bring something up then

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then apparently. And today's
show my theme is going to be

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questions that the media
supposed to ask and none of them

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asked. Okay. All right. Yeah. So
I got there's a play the clip

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the al Qaeda, this is crack me
up when I heard this,

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apparently, because of Snowden.
Al Qaeda is already changing the

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way it does business.

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While this is happening. I'm
seeing one of the first reports

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from the Associated Press that
goes into detail about how al

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Qaeda specifically, the group,
the al Qaeda group in Yemen, is

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already changing the way that
they're operating. Due to the

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information for the leaks.
There's a lot of play here,

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Ambassador, where I have time
for today. Thank you so much.

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Oh, thank you.

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Oh, that's nothing. That's
nothing. Are you kidding me?

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Let's look.

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I was gonna Well, no,

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no, hold on. Hold on. Let me
bring out the Waterhead for a

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second. And you know who I'm
talking about. John Fitzgerald,

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John Fitzgerald, Carrie. Okay.
Why watermelon had,

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what I see is an individual who
threatened his country and put

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Americans at risk through the
acts that he took, people may

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die as a consequence of what
this man did. I have it is

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possible the United States will
be attacked, because terrorists

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may now know how to protect
themselves in some way or

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another that they didn't know
before. This is a very dangerous

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ad.

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So don't use pal talk is
basically the message Yeah, that

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was my punch line. You stepped
on it. I'm

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sorry. I didn't know you had a
punch line from my clip.

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No, I had a punch line from my
clip, which was the same as a

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punch line for your title
change. And because this is

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bullcrap. I mean, we got one
week after the spring breaks,

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and all of a sudden they're so
on top of alkaitis making all

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these changes while they drone
them if they know so much. And

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let me

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say I have changed a behavior. I
am Yes, I am. I've disconnected

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certain computers from the
network. You know, I already run

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my own mail server. And this, of
course, is the definition of

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tyranny that the government of
the United States is not just

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placing upon ah Some American
citizens but the entire world

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and and a lot of people are
worried to the Germans, in fact

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are very worried about this.
They're the only ones actually

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saying anything about it. But I
am no longer carrying around a

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cell phone. And of course there
are some cases where I where I

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will need to travel and have a
phone. But I'm just using a Wi

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Fi enabled device here at home
and if I go out I'll take a Wi

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Fi thing and I if I need to
connect I can there's no way if

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you don't if you want to call me
Tough shit, and you just you

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can't call me. You can't text
me. I just refuse to be listened

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to I refuse to be tracked. And
it's not even if they're doing

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it in real time. I just refuse
to have a log of me where I am.

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I'm just I'm just not gonna
stand

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up to anyway I have to curry
have lots

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of things to hide. Lots of
things to hide. here's the

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here's the Germans. This is a
German minister I think European

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Parliament member who's who
sounds pretty funny, but he's

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right.

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GCHQ is alleged to have tapped
into fiber optic cables that

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carry international
communications traffic that's

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caused anger among some allies.

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Our concerns are that friends
are spying on us. And we want to

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know is there a legal basis and
a central casting

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our friend spying on us you have
a check it out though this it

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gets creepy.

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Are you spying on any Germans?
Is there a judge involved?

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But despite all the
controversies and criticisms,

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today, the chancellor announced
more money for the intelligence

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services, including mi six based
here and the foreign secretary

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in America gave a speech in
which he defended their work.

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Let us

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be clear about it in both our
countries. I love the

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performative let us be clear
about it. Intelligence tech work

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takes place within a strong
legal framework. We operate

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under the rule of law and are
accountable for it. In some

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countries, secret intelligence
is used to control their people.

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In ours, it only exists to
protect their freedoms, you

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know, so I heard I heard this.
And I'm like, if we just he

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flubbed that billiard ball guy,
if the billiard ball got if we

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just take away the little flub
in the beginning, if we slow him

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down about 5% If we give him a
little bit of echo, and we put

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some maniacal music underneath
him, he's perfect.

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intelligence work takes place
within a strong legal framework.

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We operate under the rule of law
and are accountable for it. In

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southern countries secret
intelligence is used to control

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their people in ours, it only
exists to protect their

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freedoms, protect their freedom,
protect their freedoms, protect

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their freedom.

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I think the guy's a winner.

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Well, that's clip of the day it
was produced though. I like it.

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You never produce anything

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I'll take it thank you very
much. I appreciate that.

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You may be a yeah up the ante is
producing

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I spent at least 45 I swear to
God, I heard the guy going like,

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protect their freedoms, like
holy crap, and I slowed him down

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a little bit put some echo on
him like the guy

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music was good in the Echo was
ideal.

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The guy is the guy is a total.

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Okay, wait so good. Again. Oh,
wow.

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Okay, I get that again. Maybe
Oh, my goodness. Here we go.

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intelligence work takes place
within a strong legal framework.

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We operate under the rule of law
and are accountable for it. In

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southern countries secret
intelligence is used to control

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their people in ours. It only
exists to protect their

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freedoms, protect their
freedoms, protect their

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freedoms, protect the freedom
and I

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was looking for the whole the
wasn't on C span. I mean, he's

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he said this somewhere in
America, and I couldn't find the

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clips only had with this to work
with and I'm sure we can do more

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with him. He's

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such a creep.

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You think is super creepy? Super
creepy.

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Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah,
well, it's all downhill from

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here

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Wow, how fast we go from gay
marriage to protect your

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freedoms and that's what it's
all about, ladies and gentlemen.

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Just to protect your freedoms
have no fear. Ah yeah, it's it's

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this morning was making our
talking I said Yeah, I think the

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Unabomber was really right. I
come back I read his manifesto

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from time to time then it's the
fun one is the the type that you

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there's a PDF of the typed up
you know his his actual typing,

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because it gives a little more
context to how twisted his book

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Rain was but really, I mean, the
guy was a genius who's certified

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was Harvard or Stanford,

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I think was at Harvard Harvard.
Friend of mine knew him and

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found it. Unbelievable that he'd
become such a such a maniac

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because he thought he said he
was one of the smartest people

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I've ever met in his life. Yeah.
And I guess he just some

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flipped.

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Well, he saw the writing on the
wall. And, of course, you know,

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you know, Obama, he was bombing
University was trying to stop

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the tech people from buying into
technology. And this morning, I

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was like, they said, Do we
really benefited from all of

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this information and all the
things we now know, and I make

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less

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money. But I think the internet
screwed us all. It's just the

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way it goes. But you know,
things happen, things change.

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What

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do you mean screwed us all?

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I think it's screwed us. I don't
think we I don't think we've I

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think our time is being sucked
away, like with the Facebook

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addicts, and all this kind of
thing. And I don't notice that

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I'm better organized with all
the computing power, I have the

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fact it's a mess in this room.
And it's just I think we've been

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screwed, I think, and
everything's cheap. And I mean,

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you can't do writers don't make
as much money because

446
00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:13,500
everybody's a writer, and
they're all bloggers, and some

447
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,900
people are actually pretty
talented at it. Artists are

448
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:18,870
making less money, everybody's
making less money, except CEOs,

449
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:21,810
and they're making way too much
corzan And they're gonna get

450
00:26:21,810 --> 00:26:24,960
screwed when if there's
anything, you know, the public

451
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,750
begins to riot and put their
heads on a stick, which could

452
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:28,110
happen

453
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:31,680
I had with it's funny you say
that I had a thought about the

454
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,460
CEOs and I was thinking this
dismay. Start in Silicon Valley.

455
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:40,800
If you look at let's look at the
Snowden affair, and by the way,

456
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,840
what's with the Mr. Snowden
business? Did a memo go out that

457
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,830
everyone has to say Mr. Snowden,
Mr. Snowden, Mr. Snowden, have

458
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:50,580
you noticed this?

459
00:26:50,790 --> 00:26:52,320
Yeah, I've noticed I don't know
what I

460
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,750
don't know what the deal is with
that. But maybe maybe he was a

461
00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:03,330
hitman all along. And maybe this
is this is the beginning of

462
00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:06,960
going after the the the
corporates, the dissenters, the

463
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,950
ones who need to be reined in?
Like hey, sure, be careful

464
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:14,520
Google you know we can we can
have the slaves riot against

465
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,270
you. There's all kinds of
possibility you see the the Ars

466
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,880
Technica stuff that came out
about Snowden about they

467
00:27:21,270 --> 00:27:27,660
magically have a, an IRC chat
log from when he was from 2006.

468
00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:31,170
I think, Gee, I wonder where
they got that. And yeah, and

469
00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:33,060
he's, well, there's no I don't
think there's any mentioned the

470
00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:36,780
article where that comes from,
and he's freaking out about the

471
00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:42,540
CIA leaking stuff. It's, you
know, and he's like, wow, I

472
00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:44,730
would shoot those guys in the
balls and there's all this

473
00:27:44,730 --> 00:27:48,900
really weird stuff. It's of
course, he was NSA contractor.

474
00:27:49,650 --> 00:27:52,920
So seems like he may have
flipped. I mean, there's so many

475
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,880
parameters to this the one thing
that definitely happening is

476
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,920
we've been distracted away from
the true issue. And so while

477
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,620
we're talking about is, you
know, is he in NYC in the Moscow

478
00:28:04,620 --> 00:28:06,540
airport hotel, he's he in China.

479
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:09,750
Watch these idiots go on and on.
In fact, I have a couple of

480
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:12,450
clips just to prove your point.
Yeah, please, that they're

481
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,720
they're preoccupied with this
bull crap. And here's the let's

482
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,960
see, we got to. We got to McCain
clip. Let's start with that.

483
00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:21,570
Okay, always fun to hear our
douchebag he's been

484
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:24,480
hiding out ever since admitting
to leaking information on our

485
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,630
government secret surveillance
programs. Snowden is wanted in

486
00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:31,470
the United States on charges of
espionage. Just yesterday. We

487
00:28:31,470 --> 00:28:34,170
mentioned this on the show. But
just to remind you, Russian

488
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:36,630
President Vladimir Putin
confirmed for the first time

489
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:40,470
that Snowden is in a Moscow
airport and he said he still

490
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:41,580
Snowden is still

491
00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:46,320
asked a question. Now, did you
see him say this? No. Did you

492
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,650
see a piece of paper Did you see
your representative you see

493
00:28:49,650 --> 00:28:51,480
anything or other than just the

494
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:53,850
knowledge there's a piece of
there's a fact that McCain

495
00:28:53,850 --> 00:28:57,210
throws out that I've never heard
easy. You'll see you're here to

496
00:28:57,210 --> 00:28:59,760
stands out like a sore thumb.
And it's all bull crap this

497
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,210
transit area and hasn't gone
through immigration. So he's not

498
00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:06,390
in Russia, who did rejecting
calls to extradite Snowden to

499
00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:09,390
the United States getting this
reaction from Arizona senator

500
00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:10,200
John McCain.

501
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:15,270
Did you notice report first was
that he wasn't in Russia? That's

502
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:19,830
the classic old Soviet Union
doublespeak? No technically

503
00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:24,750
because he was in the lounge at
the airport. He was not

504
00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:29,520
technically in Russia. Look at
this. This is the kind of Cold

505
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:36,000
War old Soviet speak kind of
behavior that has characterized

506
00:29:36,570 --> 00:29:41,880
Colonel Putin colonel in the
KGB. For a long time, we just

507
00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:45,810
refused to recognize it and we
keep pushing that reset button.

508
00:29:46,170 --> 00:29:50,010
And now maybe we'll wake up and
have a realistic approach to our

509
00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:51,150
relations with Russia.

510
00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:55,590
So Mrs. You want us to do bomb
them

511
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:02,610
yet well, Mr. Oil is In the back
channel here telling me that he

512
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:07,050
saw Putin on television. And
Putin was basically making a big

513
00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:11,220
joke out of it. But yeah, he's
in transit. He's not here.

514
00:30:13,410 --> 00:30:17,340
Yeah. I mean, who these guys do,
I mean,

515
00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:19,350
well, this is this is the
problem and we have become the

516
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:21,330
laughingstock. We'll play

517
00:30:21,330 --> 00:30:24,240
the Bolton clip if you want to
hear the laughingstock now, boy,

518
00:30:24,570 --> 00:30:27,030
and let's tell everyone who
Bolton is again.

519
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,590
Bolton was our ex US ambassador,
I was considered a douche bag

520
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:34,080
when he was running one of the
departments in the in

521
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,230
Washington, DC and the
government, but he gives a

522
00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:40,230
really great speech about the
10th amendment. Well, he's got

523
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:43,830
on the right side of the
argument. But funny thing is, in

524
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:46,890
this situation, he's on the
wrong side of the argument. And

525
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:48,810
he's, he's back to being a
douchebag.

526
00:30:49,409 --> 00:30:52,379
Ambassador, John Bolton, former
US ambassador to the UN and a

527
00:30:52,379 --> 00:30:54,929
Fox News contributor, and he
just admitted to us during

528
00:30:54,929 --> 00:30:58,319
break, he's been to the Moscow
airport, many times ambassador

529
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:01,829
and we keep on saying, Edward
Snowden is in this, like, it

530
00:31:01,829 --> 00:31:05,189
seems sort of legitimate place
like, Oh, he's just in the

531
00:31:05,189 --> 00:31:07,889
grocery store. He's just on the
street. I mean, what what are we

532
00:31:07,889 --> 00:31:09,209
really talking about here?

533
00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:12,660
Well, the notion that because he
hasn't gone through Russian

534
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:15,870
customs, somehow he's in a
different place than the country

535
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:19,410
called Russia is utterly
ridiculous. And what makes it so

536
00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:23,970
insulting is Putin as a lawyer,
he knows it's ridiculous. As

537
00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:27,270
Snowden came under Russian
jurisdiction when his airplane

538
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:30,750
crossed into Russian AirSpace,
Russian security officials could

539
00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:33,870
have opened the cabin door and
pulled him off the plane or

540
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,380
missing or kicked him out in the
air before they landed. They

541
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:37,560
could

542
00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:41,610
just take it to the limit. They
could have gone in there and

543
00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:42,570
shot him like

544
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,650
can I just give you the quick
translation of exactly what

545
00:31:46,650 --> 00:31:50,400
Putin said on television? Mr.
Oil gave it to me. I prefer not

546
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,850
to deal with this issue at all.
It's like sharing a pig too much

547
00:31:53,850 --> 00:32:00,270
squealing not enough roll. That
mofos deep any. That's it? Oh,

548
00:32:00,270 --> 00:32:03,510
buddy has just brought that up
on the mainstream media.

549
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,980
That is a great quote. It's a
quote of the day. If these

550
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:08,460
people are

551
00:32:08,490 --> 00:32:11,370
idiots, then the fact that
Russia doesn't have an

552
00:32:11,370 --> 00:32:14,160
extradition treaty with the
United States is utterly

553
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,220
irrelevant. Russia has not your
relevance. are you screaming

554
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:24,600
like a pig with no wool? You
will this pig they could deliver

555
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,540
him back if they wanted to. They
don't want to for several

556
00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:30,600
reasons. I think probably the
most important the most

557
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,140
dangerous is they're trying to
get everything they can off his

558
00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:38,040
computers, copying his
documents, and debriefing him on

559
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,240
what he knows personally.

560
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:42,870
So you say what Putin is saying
is ridiculous. Do we validated

561
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:45,420
them with some sort of response
or not?

562
00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:49,530
Well, I think if they don't turn
him over, we should start

563
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:52,380
responding. Honestly, we should
have started responding to the

564
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:56,370
Chinese when he left Hong Kong,
they obviously didn't pay any

565
00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:59,670
attention to our diplomacy
either. And to the extent

566
00:32:59,670 --> 00:33:02,760
there's any chance to influence
Russia, it would help to start

567
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,490
penalizing China. There are
several things we could do

568
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,120
withdrawal. Our ambassador from
Beijing withdrawal our Consul

569
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,370
General from Hong Kong put on

570
00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:16,590
is this guy's this guy's
unbelievable. But this is the I

571
00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:19,920
think you're absolutely correct.
It's a complete distraction. But

572
00:33:20,010 --> 00:33:24,480
the thing that's kind of
interesting is, you know, is the

573
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:28,470
is this commentary running
commentaries. Everybody's

574
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:31,380
talking about a different chip
Gregory, everybody else? Oh,

575
00:33:31,380 --> 00:33:34,080
he's got four computers, and
they're going to steal all the

576
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,080
stuff that he knows, and it's
going to be a huge disaster.

577
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:39,660
Now, what was the number of
people with top secret

578
00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:41,730
clearance? You always have it on
the top of your head? Well,

579
00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:41,940
there's

580
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:45,840
5 million Americans with
clearance. One and a half

581
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,910
million have top secret
clearance 1

582
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:51,480
million question, I'm gonna ask
the question the media has never

583
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,290
asked. Please ask the question
asker why I don't know why they

584
00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:57,750
don't bring this up. Especially
when they start talking about

585
00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:00,630
oh, they're going to get his
computers, and then he's going

586
00:34:00,630 --> 00:34:03,060
to get debriefed, and he's going
to tell him stuff. You're

587
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:07,620
telling me. You're telling me
that the Soviets, the Chinese,

588
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:13,050
the French, the British don't,
are not one of those 5 million

589
00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:16,410
people that have this sort of
clearance, or the 1 million that

590
00:34:16,410 --> 00:34:19,620
have the top secret clearance
already working in one of these

591
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:24,000
agencies with smarter skills
than than Snowden downloading

592
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,260
all the stuff that the British,
the Russians, the Chinese, they

593
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:32,280
don't need Snowden for anything.
They have everything he's got

594
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,000
and he doesn't think that's
correct. They're crazy. With a

595
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,660
million you know, they're given
the throwing away these top

596
00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:42,840
secret clearances left, left and
right. And nobody thinks that

597
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120
these guys aren't they're
already getting this stuff. They

598
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,930
are. Everybody knows about this,
except the American public. It's

599
00:34:48,930 --> 00:34:52,950
unbelievable. Not one journalist
has ever even asked that

600
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:53,520
question.

601
00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:59,610
Oh, John, are you okay? Barely.
Yeah. Well, this is of course,

602
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:03,420
the entire I a reason that this
is being told right now is, you

603
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:08,610
know, anyone who knows anything
about technology knows a couple

604
00:35:08,610 --> 00:35:12,360
of things. They know all of
these possibilities, but they

605
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,620
also know the the inherent
weakness. And this is why I

606
00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:19,860
thought it was funny that this
came out of the SIS admins, I

607
00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:24,360
know a sysadmin, who worked in
the drone program. And when this

608
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,030
SIS admin left to go into
private to work for a private

609
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:34,650
company, this SIS admin was
physically sick of working for

610
00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:38,100
the drone program because it
entailed retrieving pictures of

611
00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:44,790
people blown up by drones, by by
drone strikes. This person was

612
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:47,820
asked to change the root
password for the next sysadmin

613
00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:51,690
This is how dumb This is. And
and now they're going after sis

614
00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:57,000
admins, which is the stupidest
thing. You want real trouble?

615
00:35:57,510 --> 00:36:01,260
Mess with those guys. And we've
always said sis administrators

616
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:05,940
run the world they and they keep
most things honest. But no, now

617
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,460
we're gonna have to put all
kinds of bullcrap there, so it's

618
00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:11,550
just going to be even more
insecure. If there's only one

619
00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:13,770
person you can trust, trust and
an organization that's a

620
00:36:13,770 --> 00:36:18,570
sysadmin that's the only person
you can trust. The only person

621
00:36:18,570 --> 00:36:21,000
who looks away when you type in
your password everyone else's

622
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,890
look at the stupid eyeballing it
that the stupid Apple store had

623
00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:28,890
to go the Genius Bar. Geez.

624
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:34,470
I went to the Genius Bar.
recently. Yes, get a beer.

625
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,760
I was really it was a not a not
a good experience because they

626
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,720
don't really fix it. And they
they're condescending. Oh, yeah.

627
00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:46,530
Totally a little condescending.
Little little weird. Not because

628
00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:48,990
you're you're not a genius. Not
clever, not quite as

629
00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:54,540
condescending as the edge show.
I don't know if I can get to in

630
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:59,640
a day. So this is your
mainstream media and how they

631
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:06,630
are programming your mind about
the about allowing all of the

632
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:09,750
stuff that the government is
actually denying, but which goes

633
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:12,900
way beyond anything they're
admitting to, which is why I'm

634
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,600
just I'm not going to take cell
phones with me anymore. Screw

635
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,840
it. I'm just done with it. I'm
sick and tired of it. I'm

636
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,410
disconnecting stuff. Because
I've just screw you just I'm not

637
00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:26,430
giving I'm gonna do everything I
can to fight this stupidity. So

638
00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:31,590
here's the ED show, truly, truly
belongs with that clip of of

639
00:37:31,590 --> 00:37:35,160
Haig, as this is your big
brother and how the telescreen

640
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,260
tells you that it's all okay.

641
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,860
I think this kid is a punk. I
think he's a coward. And I don't

642
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:44,760
view him as Patriot at all. He's
a coward because he won't come

643
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,780
home and face the music. And if
the United States of America is

644
00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:53,010
doing something so egregiously
wrong in his surveillance

645
00:37:53,010 --> 00:37:58,350
program, how come he's the only
one speaking up? You mean,

646
00:37:58,350 --> 00:38:01,680
nobody else is willing to step
up up and say we're doing really

647
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,270
bad stuff here. Look, the
Constitution, yes, abiding by it

648
00:38:06,270 --> 00:38:10,050
very important. We've been down
this road. But basically, as I

649
00:38:10,050 --> 00:38:13,680
see this, this is a white Bronco
Chase today is what this is. And

650
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,990
we are now balancing the
credibility of this guy. And the

651
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:25,260
President United States, or this
guy in our safety. I'm going to

652
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,080
err on the side of the
President, I'm going to err on

653
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,770
the side of the safety of the
country. I do not believe that

654
00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:35,130
we have done things so terribly
wrong to keep the country safe,

655
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,940
that we need to prop this guy up
who who come home and face the

656
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:41,340
music, because I understand
there's a lot of people in

657
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:44,430
America that are willing to
support him. He shouldn't be

658
00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:48,840
empowered by that. Not going to
China, not going to Russia, and

659
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,130
certainly not seeking asylum.
This isn't about you, dude, this

660
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:56,280
is about the security of the
country. I like that isn't about

661
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,870
you, dude, dude, the security of
all of us. And based on what I

662
00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:04,980
saw in Washington, DC on
September 11 2001. I'll never

663
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,700
forget that smoke coming out of
the Pentagon as a dozen barreled

664
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,330
across the city and people
screaming and sirens and people

665
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:15,900
scared and everything we've gone
after the I don't know, I just

666
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,620
kind of don't want to go through
that again. God, so I don't

667
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:24,720
trust this guy. I don't trust
him. Have we made mistakes? Yes.

668
00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:29,550
Are we perfect? No. I don't like
getting filled up in airports to

669
00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:34,890
you. But sometimes what we have
to do is realize that maybe our

670
00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:38,160
laws don't keep up with
technology. Maybe it's not a

671
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,670
perfect world out there. But I
do think the United States and

672
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:44,790
September 11 has done a pretty
good job of getting it right.

673
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:49,260
I'll go with President Obama is
his administration in the NSA

674
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:53,940
over this guy, until of course I
get more evidence. Maybe some of

675
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:57,600
his co workers, maybe a whole
department will come out and say

676
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,240
you know Snowdens right. Don't
count on it. Stick around. Oh,

677
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,020
man,

678
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,790
what's wrong with that guy?

679
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:10,020
Oh, he's on MSNBC. This this is
this is continuous on MSNBC it

680
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:16,740
never stops. Does this whole
Mandela thing now you tell me

681
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,100
here's a little asked John and
we can come back to this crap

682
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:24,150
because it's important but this
Mandela thing I think the guy

683
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:27,900
has been dead for a couple of
days. But they're waiting there

684
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,450
the president finally the
President had to do his climate

685
00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:33,870
change speech and everything and
so he finally, you know, he's in

686
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:36,600
Africa. So now I guess he can
attend the funeral. So it's like

687
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,900
now they're going to continue.
We've had everywhere around the

688
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:43,920
world people have have stopped
and said, Oh, you know, we miss

689
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,350
Mandela, we're sorry. He passed
away. There's a whole there's a

690
00:40:46,350 --> 00:40:51,180
whole controversy in the in
Gitmo nation lowlands, where,

691
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,870
like officials were saying, Oh,
he's dead. Oh, no, he's not

692
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:58,260
dead. Oh, he's dead. Oh, no,
he's not dead. I mean, the whole

693
00:40:58,260 --> 00:41:02,790
the whole thing that keeping the
guy alive until President Obama

694
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:06,750
shows up, no doubt. And here's
proof because MSNBC came up with

695
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:10,500
this. Jim, Jim might tell you
that they repeated several

696
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:10,800
times.

697
00:41:10,829 --> 00:41:12,689
We have some developing news
that we just have to share

698
00:41:12,689 --> 00:41:15,989
Nelson Mandela's daughter
Zindzi. Mandela tells NBC that

699
00:41:15,989 --> 00:41:19,049
she was with Nelson Mandela,
that she told him of President

700
00:41:19,049 --> 00:41:23,129
Obama's upcoming visit to South
Africa. And in Vinci's words,

701
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:27,509
she told him, quote, Obama's
coming and he opened his eyes

702
00:41:27,539 --> 00:41:28,469
and gave me a smile.

703
00:41:28,499 --> 00:41:32,999
Oh, wait, wait, wait, let's do
this report on this again.

704
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,549
And Ella's condition remains
critical his daughter telling

705
00:41:35,549 --> 00:41:38,789
NBC News that when she told him
of President Obama's upcoming

706
00:41:38,789 --> 00:41:42,839
visit to South Africa, that he
opened his eyes and he smiled.

707
00:41:42,869 --> 00:41:43,649
Ah, this

708
00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:45,300
seems like real news. John

709
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:49,080
and his daughter is in a spoke
to NBC News This Morning. After

710
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,450
visiting her father, she said he
opened his eyes.

711
00:41:53,970 --> 00:42:00,150
President Obama's on the can you
say something? And because I

712
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:02,550
screwed up my speaker. Yeah,
hold on.

713
00:42:03,029 --> 00:42:09,479
Here's a hurt me. Oh, Sean.
They're both trying to kill me.

714
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,420
Yeah, okay. Can you hear me now?
You know,

715
00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:16,110
I'm gonna hate to find this but
I'm gonna have to put some

716
00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:17,490
headphones on. Oh, no.

717
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:23,970
What happened? What happened?
Um, that's crap. Well, perhaps

718
00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:29,130
we should do a little bit of Do
you have headphones?

719
00:42:30,990 --> 00:42:32,160
Hello, hello.

720
00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:45,120
Hello. All right. We'll just
have to wait. A whole lot. You

721
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,570
back?

722
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:47,790
Yeah, with headphones. Oh, well.

723
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,700
I mean, do you want to pause and
I want you to be comfortable,

724
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:51,060
honey.

725
00:42:51,689 --> 00:42:53,009
Oh, thank you, dear. All right.

726
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,400
I'll wait. You fix it him. Well,
just wait. Okay, y'all fix now?

727
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,420
Yeah.

728
00:42:57,810 --> 00:43:00,720
It's weird. What happened,
honey? When will you quit

729
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:06,060
calling me honey. Okay, sweetie.
So

730
00:43:06,509 --> 00:43:08,279
is it your sound device?

731
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,730
You want me to explain it? So
people get a little clue about

732
00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:14,850
this. Why not? So I got these
speakers that are USB speakers

733
00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:18,810
that are from edify. And I've
never really screwed around with

734
00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:22,410
the volume much. But there's a
button and you push the button,

735
00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:25,200
hold it down, your volume goes
down. And I was under the

736
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,110
impression you push it and then
cycle back up and went down and

737
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:32,850
up and down. No. I now I just
figured it out. Apparently what

738
00:43:32,850 --> 00:43:36,450
it so you were not loud enough.
And I was fooling around on the

739
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,970
console. get louder, because I
could barely hear you. So I

740
00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:41,520
decided to go and push this
button and it turns you down and

741
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,820
then off. Oh, that's not good.
And so then I'm pushing the

742
00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:47,640
button and it's pushing.
Nothing's happening. So so then

743
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,700
I realized that net bites
fooling around, which is the

744
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:56,490
only way to get anything to work
in tech is Yes, seriously,

745
00:43:56,490 --> 00:43:56,820
right?

746
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,830
You're correct, sir.

747
00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:02,490
Once people get to clue about
death and the deer Okay, so, so

748
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:05,700
yeah, so now what if you're
gonna here's how it works. You

749
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,190
push the button and hold it down
and get the turns the volume

750
00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:12,180
down to zero. To turn the volume
back up. You have to click on

751
00:44:12,180 --> 00:44:14,100
the button push push, push,
push, push, push, push, push

752
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,640
over and over it's incremental
steps. Yeah, and so you have to

753
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,830
push push push push because I
noticed when I pushed down I

754
00:44:19,830 --> 00:44:21,690
heard a little bit of you and
then went away because I had to

755
00:44:21,690 --> 00:44:26,490
hold it was you then I started
Rata tatting it bang bang bang

756
00:44:26,490 --> 00:44:28,860
bang and it came in right after
which should now I know how to

757
00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:29,190
use.

758
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,190
Okay, good. Well, good. Did you
get these mail order?

759
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:42,330
Did you order them from a
catalog? That's really good.

760
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:50,430
Very nice. I think we should
move on to chip Gregory. I see

761
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:51,720
you have to eclipse

762
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:55,980
I have chip. He's like chip is
the in this regard. I think

763
00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:58,950
we're listening to this thing.
He is another spokes hole for

764
00:44:58,950 --> 00:45:05,280
the government. Oh, Ah, in fact
he is so he's horrible, horrible

765
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,800
person. I didn't realize how
much this is

766
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,120
chip Gregory who hosts Meet the
Press? Which is I would say is

767
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,390
that not the premiere? A Sunday
show? Is that not the one

768
00:45:15,390 --> 00:45:16,110
everyone wants to

769
00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:19,440
do? There's competitors remember
that case the nation

770
00:45:19,470 --> 00:45:21,630
that killed the other guy that
killed the guy who was hosting

771
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:22,860
it. Remember, right they got to

772
00:45:23,340 --> 00:45:26,580
chip in but generally speaking
was the top one Face the Nation

773
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:29,370
was the competitor and that's
what Bob Schieffer was damn near

774
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:32,460
as bad only he's just kind of
senile. what's

775
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:35,550
what? Who's chip Gregory married
to again.

776
00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:38,880
He's married to some one of our
favorite people. Yeah.

777
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,540
What's his real name? David
Gregory. Okay, David, Greg.

778
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,950
Isn't he married to like some
douche douche yet? I think so. I

779
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:50,940
think it because he truly is a
Washington insider. And he's

780
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:53,700
he's kind of the definition
here. David Gregory, also known

781
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:59,850
as Chip born August 24 1970. I
missed he was on Imus in the

782
00:45:59,850 --> 00:46:04,590
Morning. Okay, Meet the Press.
Where's his personal personal

783
00:46:04,590 --> 00:46:10,110
life? Oh, yeah. Married to
federal prosecutor. Former

784
00:46:10,110 --> 00:46:12,900
Fannie Mae executive vice
president death, Wilkinson.

785
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:16,020
That's right. Right. Okay.
That's right. That's right.

786
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,110
Yeah, she's she's screwing us up
from the from the from the

787
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:23,700
backdoor. He's doing it through
into our face. All right. Okay.

788
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,910
So you have a very short clip of
chip is this.

789
00:46:26,970 --> 00:46:30,000
Yeah, well, I just thought this
was a disgusting way. He asked

790
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,490
his question. The short clip is
just him asking a simple

791
00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:36,810
question that and he was serious
in that he was flabbergasted

792
00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:39,720
because he is an insider, and
probably works for one of the

793
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,210
agencies from what I can tell.
But let's just play the clip.

794
00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:44,190
And I'll explain you what you
can hear what it what it's

795
00:46:44,190 --> 00:46:45,330
about. What else does

796
00:46:45,330 --> 00:46:48,180
he intend to do you have been in
contact with him? Is there

797
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:52,590
additional information he is
prepared to leak to bolster his

798
00:46:52,590 --> 00:46:56,190
and your claim that he is
actually a whistleblower, and

799
00:46:56,190 --> 00:46:58,680
not a criminal responsible for
espionage? Sure.

800
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,650
I think the the key definition
of whistleblower is somebody who

801
00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:04,860
brings to light what political
officials do in the dark that is

802
00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:06,690
either deceitful or illegal.

803
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:09,540
Interesting. You didn't like the
No, no, no,

804
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:11,820
that's not the clip I was
looking for. Well, it

805
00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:14,070
says was that clip one or two?
Clip one?

806
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:17,040
Where's this short clip on?
Wait, hold on?

807
00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:18,450
That is the short clip.

808
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:19,680
There's a shorter one.

809
00:47:19,770 --> 00:47:21,390
This is only 22 seconds.

810
00:47:21,509 --> 00:47:24,239
Well, there's one there's even
shorter. What's the shortest

811
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,679
thing I got on this list? Well,
I

812
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,460
don't I don't know. I

813
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:31,140
don't have to have it is here it
is. Oh, no, this I'm sorry. This

814
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:36,360
is Schieffer. That's that does
the short. I mixed it to drag.

815
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,880
It wasn't as bad as this
question. This is the worst

816
00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:39,960
part. I want to just

817
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:43,110
ask you to start off the
threshold question.

818
00:47:43,950 --> 00:47:47,430
Why did the Washington Post
think it should publish this

819
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:47,790
story?

820
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,700
No, no, no. Let me let me get
let's let's go back. Let me go

821
00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:56,850
back to chip Gregory. This is
what I'm sure you saw this in

822
00:47:56,850 --> 00:48:00,450
the Greenwald interview. And
this is and this is his question

823
00:48:00,450 --> 00:48:01,800
with Greenwald's answer,

824
00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:05,460
to the extent that you have
aided and abetted Snowden even

825
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:07,890
in his current an aided

826
00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:12,840
and abetted is a technical term
for treason for treason,

827
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,220
and aided and abetted not just
treason any crime. You could do

828
00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:19,920
aided and abetted a bank robbery
movements,

829
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,800
why shouldn't you, Mr.
Greenwald, be charged with a

830
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,160
crime.

831
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:27,150
Mr. Greenwald? What is this Mr.
Mr. stuff? I want to be Mr.

832
00:48:27,150 --> 00:48:27,630
Curry.

833
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:29,850
I think it's pretty
extraordinary that anybody who

834
00:48:29,850 --> 00:48:33,150
would call themselves a
journalist would publicly muse

835
00:48:33,180 --> 00:48:36,060
about whether or not other
journalists should be charged

836
00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:38,580
with felonies. The assumption in
your question, David is

837
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:41,550
completely without evidence, the
idea that I've aided and abetted

838
00:48:41,550 --> 00:48:45,030
him in any way. There's scandal
that arose in Washington before

839
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:47,370
our stories began was about the
fact that the Obama

840
00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:49,740
administration is trying to
criminalize investigative

841
00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:53,010
journalism by going through the
the emails and phone records of

842
00:48:53,010 --> 00:48:56,670
AP reporters accusing a fox news
journalist of the theory that

843
00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:59,640
you just embrace being a co
conspirator with felony in

844
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,670
felonies for working with
sources. If you want to embrace

845
00:49:02,670 --> 00:49:05,040
that theory, it means that every
investigative journalist in the

846
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,320
United States who works with
their sources who receives

847
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,560
classified information is a
criminal. And it's precisely

848
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,470
those theories in precisely that
climate that has become so

849
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:16,410
menacing in the United States is
why the New Yorker is Jane Mayer

850
00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:19,920
said investigative reporting has
come to a standstill, her word,

851
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,500
as a result of the theories that
you just referenced.

852
00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:25,170
Well, the question of who's a
journalist may be up to a debate

853
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,690
with regard to what you're
doing. And of course, anybody

854
00:49:27,690 --> 00:49:29,970
who's watching this understands,
I was asking a question, that

855
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:32,550
question has been raised by
lawmakers as well. I'm not

856
00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:35,910
embracing anything. But
obviously, I take your

857
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:38,640
point, right, so to me play the
douchebag

858
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,930
clip. Yeah, you're absolutely.

859
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:45,030
To me, this is spy versus spy.
You got the white spy and the

860
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:51,030
black spy. And clearly we've got
opposite sides. And this is a

861
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:56,160
message This is a message to
you, Rudy, to every single

862
00:49:56,490 --> 00:50:02,250
reporter out there, which is
basically fuck off. Because you

863
00:50:02,550 --> 00:50:04,830
because we got your number. You
know,

864
00:50:05,099 --> 00:50:07,559
we got your phone calls, we got
your phone records, we got it

865
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,689
all for last five years we've
got it

866
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:13,530
because this show is this show
is not is not live, they didn't

867
00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:16,890
have to leave that in that
little Ted Ted. So they put that

868
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:20,910
in for the Express reason of
putting every single journalist

869
00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:25,590
on notice. And for putting every
whistleblower on notice. It's

870
00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:31,110
funny, I got a good there's in
the very first whistleblower

871
00:50:31,350 --> 00:50:36,420
that President Obama had
arrested, his trial is coming

872
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:42,690
up. And oh, I just wanted to
give you the name because I was

873
00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:47,160
talking to someone who knows his
dad. And here we go is to sit

874
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:55,950
here. Huh, here it is. No, now,
sorry, I can't find it that

875
00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:58,560
quickly. I'll find it but it was
the Oh yeah, here it is newly

876
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:07,020
elected. This is an article from
2009 Freshly elected freshman

877
00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:10,530
election victory that the
President is charged another

878
00:51:10,530 --> 00:51:15,030
former government employee with
violating the Espionage Act. And

879
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:17,790
this guy's name is Hitsville
Berger. You ever hear this guy?

880
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:22,770
No. Okay, so he pleaded not
guilty. And what happened is he

881
00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:27,000
left the service and he went
home and he had some documents

882
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:29,640
and they said well, you took
those documents because you were

883
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,410
going to you sell them to the
Chinese and they locked them up

884
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,150
Yeah, locked up that's the NSA
guy the CIA guy to lock them up

885
00:51:39,150 --> 00:51:41,700
lock them up and they lock out
all these people love I mean

886
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:44,700
this of course this is
unbelievably fascistic but

887
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:47,730
doesn't work both ways. You know
where the government says if

888
00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:50,430
you've have nothing that if you
have nothing to hide, then you

889
00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:50,580
know

890
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,010
Yeah, no, but they did they
won't listen to that argument

891
00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:54,120
from their perspective.

892
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:56,040
But if we say well if you have
nothing to hide Why don't you

893
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,800
show everything then all of a
sudden the smoke billowing out

894
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,520
of the Pentagon? Which by the
way aside from the people in

895
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,900
there would be a pretty good
start. Please this is getting

896
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:07,590
annoying

897
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,600
I'll tell you this is yeah it's
bad. I think you're right I did

898
00:52:15,630 --> 00:52:19,500
Gregory here who is should be
fired for even asking the

899
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,840
question the way he did he
literally shouldn't be fired

900
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,470
because it's like he's not what
kind of a kind of a journalist

901
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:28,830
or host is heated to ask a
question like that and and

902
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,540
assume the guy he's talking to
is a criminal and then bola so

903
00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:38,040
what I meant no crap even what
the legislators what he made it

904
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,740
worse by saying that's not what
I meant. But this is what all

905
00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:42,330
the lawmakers are saying.

906
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:48,510
It's it's really disgusting.
Now, here is something

907
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:53,910
interesting I went down a bit of
a rabbit hole with the

908
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:58,350
connection of course, you know,
I went back and I looked at John

909
00:52:58,350 --> 00:52:58,830
Young you know,

910
00:52:58,860 --> 00:53:01,470
go down the rabbit hole. Maybe
we should thank some producers.

911
00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:01,590
This

912
00:53:01,590 --> 00:53:05,580
is a very good idea. But yeah,
in the morning to you John C.

913
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:06,630
Dvorak. Well, in

914
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:08,880
the morning to you Adam curry in
the morning all ships and sea

915
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,460
boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water and all

916
00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:14,190
the games and nights out there.
And everyone in between? Yes.

917
00:53:14,190 --> 00:53:17,610
And in between those people are
also our human resources in the

918
00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:21,480
chat room. No agenda show.no
agenda stream.com no agenda

919
00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:25,650
chat.net no agenda show.com was
down last night for several

920
00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:31,080
hours. Squarespace went down. Oh
really? which never happens.

921
00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:33,570
I've never seen that I have not
seen it either. And I don't know

922
00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:35,100
if it was one or donations were
off

923
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,390
but I couldn't log in and yeah,
yeah, I'm sure they happen

924
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:40,800
to everybody once in a while.

925
00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:45,060
I Yes. But you see how it hurts
us immediately. You know?

926
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:50,130
Gary white head though with
three and a three $3.33 from

927
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:54,720
Brunei All right. Oh, nice. Been
a while since I donated because

928
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,710
you never gave my Swaziland of
karma. What? Oh, no.

929
00:53:58,830 --> 00:54:07,980
Well then let me hand it to you
now. You've got was enough

930
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:08,460
karma.

931
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,150
Yeah, but unfortunately is in
Brunei. Anyway, he says the show

932
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:16,590
is too outstanding in all caps.
You mean me to remain forever

933
00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:17,010
bitter?

934
00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:21,390
You mean this was enough is
illegal in Brunei? Probably.

935
00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:22,350
Probably.

936
00:54:24,180 --> 00:54:29,400
Michael Slazenger. I think it's
losing juror could be slit Sleep

937
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,690
Sounds right lie singer but
Slazenger sounds like 255 It'd

938
00:54:33,690 --> 00:54:38,670
be Associate Executive producer
from a calm Michigan. Hey guys

939
00:54:38,670 --> 00:54:40,860
answering the call and make an
extra emergency donation in

940
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:42,480
addition to my weekly
subscription. I think this

941
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,880
probably came in as a Sunday
Wednesday with a given credit

942
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,700
for a second producer ship on
July 4. I thought Thursday's

943
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:55,500
episode 523 was particularly
great. Especially the Charlie

944
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:59,040
Rose interview break down. Now
that I'm a show producer. I'd

945
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,500
like to encourage you to Start
every show by immediately

946
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,400
jumping into analysis of the
recent news is, what is it? We

947
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,560
do? Not what we do? Yeah, that's
kind of

948
00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:10,980
I think this will help new
listeners catch on to the show.

949
00:55:11,130 --> 00:55:14,640
Okay. I think that's kind of
what we've been trying we could

950
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,150
be wrong.

951
00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:20,100
Sometimes we talk about your
dinner parties and I try to see

952
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,200
I think those are good. I think
people like that more than they

953
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,060
like to news. It's less
depressing.

954
00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:29,460
I'm not trying to depress people
I'm trying to, I'm trying to

955
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:30,210
entertain

956
00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:35,910
Luke from Munich. Deutschland
252 52. Please refer to me as

957
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:42,030
Luke from Munich. I only want to
ask for a birthday shout out for

958
00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:45,870
my 30 it's on Thursday. P S and
the first of June I sent you

959
00:55:46,050 --> 00:55:50,460
6969 I believe you missed it.
You could have been well, we'll

960
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:54,810
look into that make good? Yeah.
All the 6969 that we missed, I

961
00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:55,620
think we caught up.

962
00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:58,770
Sometimes we get people saying
man, I you know, you didn't read

963
00:55:58,770 --> 00:56:02,640
my my donation my birthday. And
then we go back and say, well,

964
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:05,190
here it is. And you can hear it
on the recording.

965
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,410
Yeah, there's a lot of that
actually. cpp. It does. Sir.

966
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,320
Sharkey, Dr. sharqiyah. Buddy in
Jackson, Tennessee.

967
00:56:13,350 --> 00:56:15,720
He's been, sir. Yeah, he's a
knight

968
00:56:16,020 --> 00:56:19,920
23456. I think he's up to
something. Baronet. Yeah, there

969
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,600
are a growing number of
physicians who do not

970
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,320
participate in government health
care programs like Medicare or

971
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:27,300
Medicaid Kool Aid. It says

972
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:28,920
it is scary. He says

973
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:31,950
this is how doctors called meta
scary. This

974
00:56:31,950 --> 00:56:34,350
is how doctors talk. This is
interesting. This is interesting

975
00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:39,420
medical aid. The majority of
these keep your medical records

976
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:43,770
in paper charts. By the way, my
doctor told me that they had to

977
00:56:43,770 --> 00:56:47,130
go to electronic everything or
they couldn't do any Medicare

978
00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:50,040
billing. Yeah, I know government
has come to give him a one year

979
00:56:50,070 --> 00:56:52,860
notice that you got every one of
you doctors you got to put

980
00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:59,790
everything down in a computer or
else and so obvious what they're

981
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,070
up to here. They're trying to
get everyone's medical records

982
00:57:02,070 --> 00:57:05,610
on top of everything else so
they can blackmail us he the

983
00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:10,470
majority of these independents
keep medical records in paper

984
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:14,490
charts, not electronic records.
Does the NSA ACS CIA and

985
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:18,330
President Obama cannot Snoop in
real time, unless they perform a

986
00:57:18,330 --> 00:57:22,290
breaking and entering after
hours, the Pentagon, FBI etc

987
00:57:22,290 --> 00:57:25,050
have all been hacked. Does
anyone really believe that an

988
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,980
EHR electronic health record is
safe from prying eyes? I would

989
00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:33,750
encourage all our pre drunk pre
diabetic free donors and our

990
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:37,200
fine producers to find a doctor
that doesn't use a government

991
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:42,480
approved health care record, but
instead uses paper charts. ITM

992
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,680
Dr. Sharkey, so

993
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:47,820
sir Dr. Sharkey sent me a number
of links and there's a huge

994
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:51,090
scare campaign now going on. He
had all of this all of this

995
00:57:51,090 --> 00:57:55,800
cyber crap it's all a big money
play. And of course some of it's

996
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,220
true, but there's article after
article I have I think five of

997
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:03,660
them in the show notes five to
five.na shownotes.com virus

998
00:58:03,660 --> 00:58:07,950
found in heart defibrillators
you know, all your medical

999
00:58:07,950 --> 00:58:11,220
devices can be attacked they can
be hacked all we had to clean

1000
00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:14,130
all you know all the computers
because you know, there was a

1001
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,730
you know, a virus got on Whoa,
you know, they could come in and

1002
00:58:17,730 --> 00:58:20,940
control you and kill you. It's
just It goes on and on for

1003
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:22,080
ever.

1004
00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:30,600
is big, big, big business, this
big business. It's a man's and

1005
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,470
we're not in it. Of

1006
00:58:31,470 --> 00:58:35,340
course, no, of course not
getting by. He wants some karma

1007
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:38,490
for his wife's aunt suffering
from terminal leukemia. And his

1008
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,780
uncle just had a stroke lost
vision in one eye. So little

1009
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:43,170
karma.

1010
00:58:44,130 --> 00:58:47,550
I mean, for the Leukemia, isn't
that I think that qualifies as

1011
00:58:47,550 --> 00:58:56,850
an F cancer. So I'm gonna karma
and I saw Dr. Shark, he's

1012
00:58:56,850 --> 00:59:00,540
goodness. And it's good to have
these guys on the inside. Who

1013
00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:03,930
tell you what's going on. And I
agree. But now we have Ms.

1014
00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:07,380
Mickey has a document women need
I think women, it's important

1015
00:59:07,380 --> 00:59:12,090
for women to have. I think they
just need more help than men in

1016
00:59:12,090 --> 00:59:15,660
general. I think it's my feeling
my experience. Keep digging.

1017
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:21,930
Yep. Yeah, I'm up to my neck.
And, and so all of the, and we

1018
00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:26,850
have BlueCross. All of the
approved doctors, they all have

1019
00:59:28,590 --> 00:59:32,430
electronic records. And weed
like no, we don't want you know,

1020
00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:34,290
we don't don't want to do that.
And then she had to have a

1021
00:59:34,290 --> 00:59:37,980
procedure. And they're like,
Well, you got to sign in on the

1022
00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:40,320
website. I'm like, No, we're not
doing that. And we go in and did

1023
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,240
like now if you don't do it on
there, you can have your

1024
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,860
procedure done. So she has one
doctor who is you know, really

1025
00:59:46,860 --> 00:59:49,860
good. He's the guy that got into
compounded stuff for her

1026
00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:53,640
thyroid. That's made locally
here in Austin tailored to her

1027
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,560
specific situation.

1028
00:59:55,590 --> 00:59:57,060
Yeah, those guys are under
attack.

1029
00:59:57,090 --> 01:00:02,070
Yeah. Well, nice. Have the
compound and medication or that

1030
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:04,260
doctor is covered by the
insurance we have to pay that

1031
01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:07,890
out of pocket. So I'm paying
twice essentially. The figures

1032
01:00:07,890 --> 01:00:13,410
Yeah, it's it's horrible. It's
so don't get me started.

1033
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,690
James cross it in San Luis
Missoura to 2222 I couldn't find

1034
01:00:18,690 --> 01:00:22,170
a note from him and he and there
was nothing in the email but

1035
01:00:22,650 --> 01:00:29,340
thank you. Chris Heffley to
$11.20 in Galleon Ohio, first

1036
01:00:29,340 --> 01:00:33,150
time donor but like leaving a
gentleman's club hopefully only

1037
01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:39,840
a semi Boehner ah, I need to
thank Peter C. Norwood for

1038
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,660
hitting me in the mouth several
months back. I figured after

1039
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:45,060
listening to one of those 300
episodes where John was

1040
01:00:45,060 --> 01:00:48,480
describing a Berkeley Hummer
that had me laughing so hard I

1041
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,050
had to stop mowing my lawn that
it was time I decided it was

1042
01:00:52,050 --> 01:00:55,410
time to donate your show is true
value for value no seeds

1043
01:00:55,410 --> 01:00:59,940
required I cannot imagine not
listening now so I have to do my

1044
01:00:59,970 --> 01:01:06,450
part to earn 21 $211.20 I would
like some front row ticket karma

1045
01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:08,010
for the three rush shows I'm
about to

1046
01:01:10,350 --> 01:01:15,960
okay all right here you go
Excellent. You've got karma

1047
01:01:17,850 --> 01:01:20,640
got a you got a birthday call
out coming up we've got that

1048
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,030
covered

1049
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,210
that should be known as the as
the Tom Sawyer karma I can't

1050
01:01:24,210 --> 01:01:26,940
believe he just said front row
ticket karma that's not right.

1051
01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:29,580
He she is a huge she's not a
huge fan of the show. His

1052
01:01:29,580 --> 01:01:33,870
daughter is 12 For some reason,
but it's not for lack of trying

1053
01:01:33,870 --> 01:01:36,750
one thing she would like to hear
is the original Mac and Cheese

1054
01:01:36,750 --> 01:01:38,670
song which always makes her
laugh

1055
01:01:39,180 --> 01:01:44,190
the original Mac and Cheese does
that mean your mac and cheese

1056
01:01:45,690 --> 01:01:49,650
I think use these there wasn't
there a mac and cheese song Hold

1057
01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:54,930
on. Oh God anyway he says that
we have the best thing going to

1058
01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:56,130
show you can play my Mac

1059
01:01:56,490 --> 01:02:01,230
I'd love to play it if my if my
Mac hadn't completely frozen at

1060
01:02:01,230 --> 01:02:01,920
this point.

1061
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,160
We'll put some cheese on it All
right, hold

1062
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,510
on a second. True mac and cheese
the living the mac and cheese

1063
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:13,830
life is what you want and this
oh my god this is really not.

1064
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:21,990
Oh, come on please. Cheese, mac
and cheese iron Rand and as a

1065
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:25,890
bonus among many other things.
She joined the times from the

1066
01:02:25,890 --> 01:02:30,690
Wall Street Journal in 1997 Jill
Abramson congratulations on

1067
01:02:30,690 --> 01:02:39,000
welcome. Thank you so much, Jim.
i Hey, what's your Hummer?

1068
01:02:39,029 --> 01:02:40,499
There's your Hummer right there.

1069
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:44,970
You're welcome Bo agency Inc.
$210. In Hollywood, California.

1070
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:47,850
My contribution is long overdue.
Your shows have gone to a new

1071
01:02:47,850 --> 01:02:50,520
level with the analysis and
deconstruction, which can only

1072
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,360
take place after years of
experience. Please de douche me

1073
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:55,020
up so

1074
01:02:57,150 --> 01:02:59,010
you've been de deuced

1075
01:03:00,390 --> 01:03:02,940
Hollywood we don't get a lot of
donations from Hollywood,

1076
01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:03,750
California.

1077
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,610
Now they're too busy looking at
a hookers. Michael event is the

1078
01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:11,640
Symbio agency and what if I get
a bid part? Maybe I need an

1079
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,750
agent. I think

1080
01:03:12,750 --> 01:03:15,930
they're there for pets. I don't
I don't think they do.

1081
01:03:16,410 --> 01:03:20,940
Michael Levine Levine Levin
Michael Levin. 200 bucks

1082
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:24,930
Brooklyn, ITM John and Adam I'll
keep it short value for value

1083
01:03:24,930 --> 01:03:30,060
and no water no blank has just
sent some family karma. You've

1084
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:38,460
got karma finally Daniel Miller
I have a note he's in Knoxville,

1085
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:40,620
Tennessee. We got to Tennessee
producers today. Isn't that

1086
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:45,510
interesting? The home of your
buddy Al Gore. Dear guardians of

1087
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:51,090
reality backed the show has been
growing grabbing ly good lately.

1088
01:03:51,450 --> 01:03:55,500
I found the Adobe white paper
that Adam highlighted to be very

1089
01:03:55,500 --> 01:04:00,990
useful for hitting people in the
mouth. Yay. Please use this

1090
01:04:00,990 --> 01:04:04,410
donation to bribe the El Torito
post office to give you post

1091
01:04:04,410 --> 01:04:10,050
office box 33 It's a government
facility so this should work.

1092
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:13,920
Also please wish my data Happy
Birthday on June 30. You got to

1093
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,230
put his did that Dan Miller's
dad put him on the list.

1094
01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:26,850
Dan Miller he's not on there. No
Okay. Dan Miller's when is he

1095
01:04:26,850 --> 01:04:34,950
when's his birthday Okay, all
right. Yeah, it should work

1096
01:04:35,010 --> 01:04:36,180
should be able to bribe the post

1097
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:42,090
office down here babe. Hey,
girls. Hey, girls.

1098
01:04:43,020 --> 01:04:48,270
I've had so many people come up
to me about that one. The well

1099
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:54,450
this is why we don't do video
Yeah, it was you know in it, it

1100
01:04:54,450 --> 01:04:55,590
would ruin it then. Yeah,

1101
01:04:55,590 --> 01:04:58,800
we can't do video videos. This
is this is that it was listening

1102
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,360
to the show it I mean most of
the Video, podcast. People are

1103
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,140
doing cranky geeks, which was a
pure video podcast in a studio.

1104
01:05:07,770 --> 01:05:11,130
A 75% of the people were just
downloading the mp3 file. They

1105
01:05:11,130 --> 01:05:12,210
never watched it know

1106
01:05:12,630 --> 01:05:16,110
exactly that because there's
West time. Who has time? Oh, I'm

1107
01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:23,250
sorry, chat room. was time to
actually watch for three hours.

1108
01:05:23,310 --> 01:05:24,240
You crazy?

1109
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,030
Yes, three hour show is
ridiculous. You can put on your

1110
01:05:27,030 --> 01:05:29,370
little mp3 and put it play in
the car when you drive it

1111
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:32,520
around, whatever. Is that how it
works. So that's anyway, we want

1112
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,520
to thank our executive producer
and our executive producers for

1113
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,880
show five to five, which is a
nice number that we could have

1114
01:05:38,910 --> 01:05:42,090
gotten some play with. Can't
want to remind people go to

1115
01:05:42,090 --> 01:05:46,800
dvorak.org/nhl Dev org.com/na.
Also, the no agenda show website

1116
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,420
has a donate button as well as
the no agenda nation website.

1117
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:54,720
Click there and help us out for
the Sunday show, which is

1118
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,660
generally coming up oh, it's
gonna be slow. But this is good.

1119
01:05:57,660 --> 01:06:00,330
This today's was the we know we
have a lot of producers, the

1120
01:06:00,330 --> 01:06:02,730
overall numbers are not that
great. And I think we're

1121
01:06:02,730 --> 01:06:05,760
entering in the doldrums here
for a month or so Dog

1122
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,120
Days. I also want to thank all I
want to thank all of our

1123
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:15,690
producer, our artists. sab
Swiss, I think someone who's new

1124
01:06:15,690 --> 01:06:19,770
to the mix, we use sabse art on
the previous episode of the

1125
01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:23,910
program five to four. Appreciate
that you can see all the art no

1126
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:29,220
agenda art generator.com. Couple
of quick PR Wow. Hello, can you

1127
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:32,940
back it off a little? i Wow,
that was a loud ring.

1128
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,910
It seems a mile away from the
mic. But I think maybe the mics

1129
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:36,480
pointing in

1130
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,900
a couple of PR mentions. One,
there is a now a one of our

1131
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:49,350
producers mature, mature GG has
set up an automatic no agenda to

1132
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:53,790
YouTube conversion system. So
the minute a show hits the RSS

1133
01:06:53,790 --> 01:06:57,990
feed it's converted uploaded to
YouTube, but check this. He does

1134
01:06:57,990 --> 01:07:04,590
it sped up. Which I don't know I
don't like that. Personally,

1135
01:07:04,620 --> 01:07:07,470
a lot of people is it sped up
with the right tonal balance.

1136
01:07:07,470 --> 01:07:14,460
It's well no, it's, well it's
no, no, it's sped up like most

1137
01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:16,950
of these players do. You know
players can play back at one and

1138
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:21,750
a half speed. Right? I don't do
like I don't like that. I don't

1139
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:25,050
I've never understood why people
do that. I think you're missing

1140
01:07:25,050 --> 01:07:28,020
a lot of the art. You know, it's
like it's like looking at the

1141
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:31,080
Mona Lisa with your your
sunglasses on? No,

1142
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,770
no looking at the Mona Lisa
using Google Streetview.

1143
01:07:37,230 --> 01:07:38,700
That's a better analogy. Thank
you.

1144
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:41,190
And you can do that you can
actually go into the light

1145
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:43,320
believe the Louvre is available
on

1146
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:47,670
Google. I think the Louvre was
the first website ever. I

1147
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:51,780
remember pitching Reebok and say
how can you not be here? Here's

1148
01:07:51,780 --> 01:07:54,840
the Mona Lisa. And it worked and
let's

1149
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,640
walk by the other paintings

1150
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,330
right? Also So anyway, thank you
very much Mr. Chair and the link

1151
01:08:00,330 --> 01:08:03,780
in the show notes of course
under the PR section as Scott

1152
01:08:03,780 --> 01:08:05,970
says in the morning Adam and
John just letting you know that

1153
01:08:05,970 --> 01:08:09,060
I'm continuing to propagate the
message and I guess he means for

1154
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:12,930
me that by releasing my first
Kindle giblet it's called foot

1155
01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:18,630
on the shore it's a story about
an old man and his dog who find

1156
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:22,260
his severed foot on a beach
unfortunately the deal I had to

1157
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:24,660
publish one day and get my
nation which is a great book has

1158
01:08:24,660 --> 01:08:27,810
fallen through but I'm working
on getting it republished myself

1159
01:08:28,050 --> 01:08:30,510
and have few other no agenda
stories in the works including

1160
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,200
one called Death by auto pen
Keep up the great work come

1161
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,250
attach the Kindle version of the
latest story for you both and so

1162
01:08:38,250 --> 01:08:42,600
be on the lookout for that for
the no agenda, giblets in the

1163
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:48,330
Amazon store and there is and
this is all your fault and and I

1164
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:54,990
I'm very thankful we now have a
no agenda Texas meet up

1165
01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:59,520
announcement while everybody a
group of the no agenda producers

1166
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,360
is putting on a Texas no agenda
meetup. We want slaves like you

1167
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:09,360
charged up and ready to attend.
And the link because they have

1168
01:09:09,690 --> 01:09:13,860
the website is no agenda
texas.com And you should check

1169
01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:21,390
this out. Ah they've improved
it. Remember remember that this

1170
01:09:21,390 --> 01:09:24,150
September John fires blackpowder
shot

1171
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:27,570
what's the name of this URL?

1172
01:09:27,599 --> 01:09:35,309
No agenda texas.com. event
details so let me see what's

1173
01:09:35,309 --> 01:09:40,529
going on with the event. Let's
see. Anyway, so they're working

1174
01:09:40,529 --> 01:09:46,349
on very fun. So they're working
on something but I'm leaving

1175
01:09:46,349 --> 01:09:46,709
this up to

1176
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,120
get with that guy's got there
but that is not a black powder

1177
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,910
gun. It looks like a bat and
that's just some new modern

1178
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:57,180
version could be could be I
don't know what that why not why

1179
01:09:57,180 --> 01:09:59,970
why would you do that? I got a
really long scope. I don't know

1180
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,830
But the deal is with that but I
think it's just funny.

1181
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,570
I think that's not scope. That's
not a scope that's you shoot the

1182
01:10:06,570 --> 01:10:09,060
black powder then then you put
your mouth on that thing and

1183
01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:13,290
suck in this pile of smoke
flying off of it. Yeah, okay.

1184
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,450
Yeah, right I'm sorry.org/and

1185
01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:21,780
No matter what you do we always
ask you to go out and do this

1186
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:24,810
important thing which is
propagate our formula is this.

1187
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:28,050
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth

1188
01:10:43,950 --> 01:10:46,650
all right, rabbit hole, quick
little rabbit hole. Hit it.

1189
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:51,810
Alright, so rabbit hole is we
now we know that John Young who

1190
01:10:51,810 --> 01:10:56,670
runs crypto home.org and left
WikiLeaks in 2007 and said, You

1191
01:10:56,670 --> 01:11:00,420
guys are a CIA front. I want
nothing to do with you. And you

1192
01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:04,560
know, we we have gone through
this ad nauseam about the Julian

1193
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,970
Assange his background. You
know, pretty much just feeling

1194
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:12,660
like the way it came down the
way the documents were published

1195
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:15,510
in newspapers and not online

1196
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:20,880
is CIO. There's also some code
thing going on. Where they're

1197
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,840
calling him a Sanjay, have you
noticed this? No. Is it Mr.

1198
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,830
Asante? No, just the Julian
Assange J. And the guy that the

1199
01:11:28,860 --> 01:11:32,580
CIA guys are calling him this
and enforcing is fishy interest.

1200
01:11:32,580 --> 01:11:32,670
I

1201
01:11:32,670 --> 01:11:34,830
have not heard this. Yeah, in
fact, Oh,

1202
01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:37,260
who's that was a douchebag. That
was the head of the agency for

1203
01:11:37,260 --> 01:11:40,950
some period of time. And I think
under Bush, I can't remember his

1204
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:43,770
name. But will it was Woolsey or
something like

1205
01:11:43,770 --> 01:11:45,210
that? Yeah. Rosie Woolsey. He's

1206
01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:48,720
back. And he came on some show
going on and on about something

1207
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,870
or other and he called him a
song j. So the song che and

1208
01:11:51,870 --> 01:11:55,980
Manning needed to be thrown in
the slammer. And he would go on.

1209
01:11:57,030 --> 01:12:02,010
So I'm looking at the reports
coming in and how WikiLeaks is

1210
01:12:02,010 --> 01:12:08,430
now basically claiming Mr.
Snowden as their own. And, and

1211
01:12:08,430 --> 01:12:12,330
this woman appears, what I see.
I'm sorry, that's not that

1212
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:17,460
woman. That's that was the
Waterhead. Here it is. This is

1213
01:12:17,460 --> 01:12:17,580
what

1214
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:20,760
I wanted legal adviser to
WikiLeaks, who joins me here

1215
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,660
live from London. Jennifer,
thank you for for coming on end.

1216
01:12:24,660 --> 01:12:28,650
And I just have to ask first
couple of questions. Where is

1217
01:12:28,650 --> 01:12:30,060
Edward Snowden right now.

1218
01:12:30,810 --> 01:12:34,950
Now this woman, her name is

1219
01:12:40,110 --> 01:12:45,450
Jennifer Robinson, and she is a
lawyer. And so and let's listen

1220
01:12:45,450 --> 01:12:47,250
to what she says. And then let's
go down the hole.

1221
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,240
As Julian Assange confirmed this
afternoon on the telephone

1222
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,300
conference call, he is in direct
contact with WikiLeaks. But at

1223
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:57,600
this stage, they are not
disclosing where he is. He is He

1224
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,750
is in good health. He's in high
spirits. We understand that they

1225
01:13:00,750 --> 01:13:02,490
are not disclosing his
whereabouts. Can you

1226
01:13:02,490 --> 01:13:05,190
tell me where he would like to
go? priority number one.

1227
01:13:06,810 --> 01:13:10,620
I understand my instructions
are, as has been widely reported

1228
01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:13,710
that he has now sought asylum
from Ecuador and has made an

1229
01:13:13,710 --> 01:13:16,980
application exercising his legal
right under international law to

1230
01:13:16,980 --> 01:13:20,370
seek asylum. That is now a
metaphor for the Ecuadorian

1231
01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:21,120
government whose

1232
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,030
entire interview she's saying my
instructions are this is what I

1233
01:13:24,030 --> 01:13:27,870
have been told to relate to you.
I am a moron. And so I'm like,

1234
01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:31,650
Okay, who is this woman? So
Jennifer Robinson is a lawyer,

1235
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:36,750
and she is the legal director
for the birth of foundation.

1236
01:13:37,470 --> 01:13:43,650
Bertha foundation.org, go to
this website. And this is, this

1237
01:13:43,650 --> 01:13:47,760
is a very, very interesting. In
fact, I'm going to go there

1238
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:53,640
myself. They hand out money to
all kinds of groups, but there's

1239
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,910
no information about who's
behind it knowing is spelled as

1240
01:13:56,970 --> 01:14:05,160
Bub E. Bravo, Echo Romeo. Tango
hotel Alpha. Birth, the

1241
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,820
Foundation was established in
2010 by a family who believes

1242
01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:12,540
that bright ideas combined with
resources and strong leadership

1243
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:16,650
can create profound social
impact. We believe in the power

1244
01:14:16,650 --> 01:14:20,070
of social activism to generate
social, political, economic and

1245
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:23,730
environmental change. We believe
in passionate individuals and

1246
01:14:23,730 --> 01:14:27,390
projects that can affect change
on a local or global scale of

1247
01:14:27,390 --> 01:14:32,190
these people who paid for this
woman to represent WikiLeaks and

1248
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:33,150
Mr. Snowden.

1249
01:14:33,330 --> 01:14:37,680
Well, let me mention a couple
other things. One, the the art

1250
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,960
on the webpage people should
check out there's a bunch of

1251
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,990
people in a circle a bunch of
kids and it looks like there may

1252
01:14:42,990 --> 01:14:47,010
be African Yeah. And then
there's a woman with a camera

1253
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,880
wearing a headscarf and she
appears to be a Muslim. I don't

1254
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,460
know what the point of that is.
And then there's a quote from

1255
01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:57,960
Peter Gabriel on this on the
right hand side. So this thing

1256
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:58,800
is very

1257
01:14:59,130 --> 01:15:02,250
go to grant As John, if you
click on grantees up there at

1258
01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:03,810
the top, and they have

1259
01:15:03,810 --> 01:15:07,860
they also have a weird logo with
a B in the middle of it. Yep. So

1260
01:15:07,860 --> 01:15:10,800
there's so there's a fascist
looking thing. Oh, yeah. So

1261
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,310
they're handing

1262
01:15:11,310 --> 01:15:15,750
out money to the Sundance
Institute, the boon to education

1263
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:20,100
fund. But here's what's
interesting. There is no record

1264
01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:24,150
of the birth of foundation that
I could find as a nonprofit in

1265
01:15:24,150 --> 01:15:28,080
the United States, even though
they claim to be a nonprofit

1266
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:28,740
foundation.

1267
01:15:29,850 --> 01:15:31,500
That they're claiming that where
they claim that

1268
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,330
if you're looking at about they,
well, then I'm sorry. They're

1269
01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:44,190
not talking about being a
nonprofit. We believe

1270
01:15:44,190 --> 01:15:46,980
philanthropy is more than
science. And we focus on people

1271
01:15:46,980 --> 01:15:50,490
and their vision. We try to be
trailblazers and finding daring

1272
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,600
opportunities. And you look at
the grantees and it's it's

1273
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,160
basically propagandistic right
down to the Ubuntu Education

1274
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,420
Fund, which I think is the
African thing. Now the Ubuntu

1275
01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:06,690
Education Fund. They received a
lot of money really like a

1276
01:16:06,690 --> 01:16:10,590
million dollars, just from the
birth of foundation, but who is

1277
01:16:10,590 --> 01:16:13,260
the birth of foundation? That's
all I really want to know. Oh,

1278
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:16,440
by the way, on the grantees
page, there's a quote from Harry

1279
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:20,730
Belafonte radical thought is the
energy of the universe. Now,

1280
01:16:20,730 --> 01:16:23,730
it's not saying that Harry
Belafonte is a member of the

1281
01:16:23,730 --> 01:16:24,900
birther foundation.

1282
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,810
Now they just put a quote on
Twitter, I can do that myself.

1283
01:16:28,770 --> 01:16:29,190
And then if

1284
01:16:29,190 --> 01:16:37,230
you look at they have all of
these crazy, like news stories.

1285
01:16:37,230 --> 01:16:38,670
Let me see our focus.

1286
01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:43,560
They have a thing called we own
TV.

1287
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:48,540
Yeah, I'm telling you, this is
what we aim to hear lawyers and

1288
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:51,330
legal actors. And we aim to
inspire and enable the work of

1289
01:16:51,330 --> 01:16:54,630
socially minded lawyers, and are
committed to strengthening the

1290
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:59,550
field of public interest law. So
not not I go on a search for

1291
01:16:59,610 --> 01:17:03,900
hours to find out, you know, is
there a family called Bertha?

1292
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:06,870
Who are these people? Are these
people and why don't they just

1293
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:11,040
disclose that on their website?
They do say we do not fund

1294
01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:13,350
animal rights, welfare
organizations crisis and

1295
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:16,800
disaster relief, Genetic and
Rare Diseases, governments large

1296
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,920
scale scientific or social
research, political candidates

1297
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,920
and campaigns religious
organizations, universities in

1298
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,760
the developed world, but they do
fund WikiLeaks, apparently,

1299
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,420
because they're paying for
WikiLeaks is legal help. And I

1300
01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:35,310
run into a woman who is featured
as a part of the Ubuntu

1301
01:17:35,310 --> 01:17:41,340
Foundation, a video on one of
these bull crap sites. And her

1302
01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:47,070
name is Laura. To bots, Nick.
Yes, you can't make it any

1303
01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:51,750
crazier than that. And she is
the CEO and founder of the birth

1304
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:52,890
of foundation, here's,

1305
01:17:53,370 --> 01:17:54,780
finally get to the bottom of it.

1306
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,430
It's kind of like a fake Ted

1307
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:03,600
thing in the position to be able
to create change, something I

1308
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,780
feel is a privilege and a
responsibility. And Laura, it's

1309
01:18:06,780 --> 01:18:11,070
about snick, founder and CEO of
the birther foundation. One of

1310
01:18:11,070 --> 01:18:14,700
the trips I did this year was
out in rural Kenya, and one of

1311
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:16,620
the schools we went to is
probably the poorest one I've

1312
01:18:16,620 --> 01:18:21,600
ever been to in my life. It was
literally to mud structures. And

1313
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,300
all the kids were out on the
lawn. A principal asked this one

1314
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:27,750
little boy to stand up. And as
everyone started clapping, and

1315
01:18:27,780 --> 01:18:32,430
was boy up until about a week
ago is 11 or 12. used to come to

1316
01:18:32,430 --> 01:18:34,770
school naked because he couldn't
afford a uniform.

1317
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:37,830
So you get the point. She's full
of shit. She's talking about

1318
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:38,820
what are you talking about?

1319
01:18:38,850 --> 01:18:40,530
Got that kind of fake.

1320
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:45,090
Oh accent Oh, and then I'm like
okay, what is going on with this

1321
01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:49,110
woman the only thing I can find
so the birth of foundation.org

1322
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:53,280
is registered to her at what I
presume is her address of 70

1323
01:18:53,280 --> 01:19:00,990
Washington. Hold on a second. It
is 70 thing Washington Street in

1324
01:19:00,990 --> 01:19:05,070
Brooklyn New York penthouse ah,
and if you look at it, this is a

1325
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:09,480
two and a half million dollar
penthouse. This is just some

1326
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:16,380
rich woman who likes to to help
black kids with no clothes and

1327
01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:20,400
finances this stuff and you
cannot find a single thing about

1328
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:25,650
her. She is invisible as far as
anything. Bertha foundation

1329
01:19:25,650 --> 01:19:35,220
goes, she has a wiki page which
only references the Ubuntu

1330
01:19:35,370 --> 01:19:39,960
Education Foundation. The whole
thing is like what is going on

1331
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,800
and where are these people
coming from? Who are they? And

1332
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:52,710
why are they funding this? Laura
to Bosne Nick and you found what

1333
01:19:52,710 --> 01:19:54,570
nothing. Well, this

1334
01:19:54,570 --> 01:19:56,160
is this is not good.

1335
01:19:56,340 --> 01:20:01,410
Oh, this is this is this is
actually very, very bad. because

1336
01:20:01,410 --> 01:20:07,500
we have an unknown group with
unknown financiers providing

1337
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:13,170
legal and spokes whole
assistance to WikiLeaks and Mr.

1338
01:20:13,170 --> 01:20:18,900
Snowden, I do have his, you're
gonna love this. I have inside

1339
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:26,010
information that the same PR
firm that handles Mr. Assange J

1340
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:32,370
will now also be handling Mr.
Snowden, and that is Fitz Gibbon

1341
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,450
media and you need to take a
look at their site. Okay. Fitz

1342
01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:42,930
Gibbon is fit Xie Gibbon
media.com. And their clients is

1343
01:20:42,930 --> 01:20:48,570
a veritable who's who have
douchebags The Courage Campaign

1344
01:20:48,570 --> 01:20:52,830
who of course, were very big on
on the gay marriage thing, the

1345
01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:57,510
Invisible War, demand action to
end gun violence, move on.org,

1346
01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:01,950
amnesty, safer chemicals,
Healthy Families common cause

1347
01:21:01,950 --> 01:21:07,050
America's voice. It goes on and
on and on Democracy for America.

1348
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:12,510
So this is a this is one of the
true Washington insider PR

1349
01:21:12,510 --> 01:21:18,300
campaigns. And they already
represent Mr. Assange, J and

1350
01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:21,030
WikiLeaks. Because you know, of
course, you know, the huge

1351
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,730
organization, I guess, I guess
they just have money coming out

1352
01:21:23,730 --> 01:21:29,640
of their assholes. And they will
now be doing the PR for Mr.

1353
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:36,330
Snowden. Interesting is they
have a so they don't like

1354
01:21:36,330 --> 01:21:42,960
exposing backpage.com and their
real policy guys. They have a

1355
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:49,110
what we do, you should read
this. And they have something

1356
01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:54,300
called artist action. Connecting
causes with like minded artists

1357
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:58,680
to raise awareness and inspire
action. This is how people like

1358
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:04,110
Bano and REM. And you'll get
involved by recruiting

1359
01:22:04,110 --> 01:22:06,960
musicians, artists and
celebrities to elevate

1360
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,770
progressive causes. Artists
action adds a powerful new

1361
01:22:10,770 --> 01:22:14,250
element to advocacy and outreach
efforts that when combined with

1362
01:22:14,250 --> 01:22:17,970
fits given media's earned media,
you know what that is? Right?

1363
01:22:19,050 --> 01:22:23,670
No, oh, this is how they
calculate how much they should

1364
01:22:23,670 --> 01:22:26,490
use the they charge their
clients. So

1365
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,610
oh, one of these operations?
Well, this is an old idea that

1366
01:22:29,610 --> 01:22:32,340
comes and goes and public
relations, we should explain it.

1367
01:22:32,340 --> 01:22:32,700
Yes.

1368
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,740
So the way I understand it, and
then you jump in, is they go out

1369
01:22:37,740 --> 01:22:40,020
and they promote something and
they'll say, Okay, we're gonna

1370
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:46,560
have Bano. Talk about how we
need WikiLeaks to be freed.

1371
01:22:46,770 --> 01:22:50,790
Julian Assange needs to be
freed. And there'll be 550

1372
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:54,960
stories. And they'll go in,
they'll measure the actual size

1373
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,290
of the stories in print, the
time that was spent on the

1374
01:22:58,290 --> 01:23:02,970
stories on the news, and the
number of web pages. And let's

1375
01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:08,130
say, if you had to buy banners,
commercials, and other forms of

1376
01:23:08,130 --> 01:23:11,310
advertising, it would cost this
much money to get this much

1377
01:23:11,310 --> 01:23:14,820
exposure. Almost Okay, what did
I miss?

1378
01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:19,950
Well, what, how it really works.
And I actually, this is 20 years

1379
01:23:19,950 --> 01:23:22,830
old, this information from the
guy, one of the guys who

1380
01:23:22,830 --> 01:23:26,400
invented this idea, although
this has come and gone and in

1381
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,040
public relations, generally
speaking, is looked down, down

1382
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,020
upon, but they actually have a
fee schedule, that they present

1383
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:36,240
the client, they say, here's the
deal, we're gonna be

1384
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,940
representing you. And here's the
fee schedule. In other words,

1385
01:23:38,970 --> 01:23:41,580
you get an article in the Wall
Street Journal, you know,

1386
01:23:41,580 --> 01:23:44,370
because of what we did. And it
actually anything that happens

1387
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,710
once you sign on with these
guys, whether it was because of

1388
01:23:46,710 --> 01:23:48,720
us, because somebody in the Wall
Street Journal actually wanted

1389
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,660
to know, is what's going to cost
you the Wall Street Journal will

1390
01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:55,710
be worth like, you know, $1,500
for that article, and a couple

1391
01:23:55,710 --> 01:23:58,020
of this and they don't actually
go through any trouble measuring

1392
01:23:58,020 --> 01:23:59,490
anything. It's just that if
you're in the Wall Street

1393
01:23:59,490 --> 01:24:03,570
Journal, you have to pay us this
much money. And essentially, the

1394
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,910
people sign on to that they
don't there's not much work

1395
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:09,690
involved in this except to, you
know, tracking all all the

1396
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,510
places where something showed
up, you get to get a guest spot

1397
01:24:12,510 --> 01:24:16,500
and MSNBC you have to pay five
grand, and all the rest of it.

1398
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:18,720
And then it's just a it's a
pretty straightforward business,

1399
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,370
but it's really sleazy,

1400
01:24:20,460 --> 01:24:24,060
and I would like to point out
that, as far as I know, the

1401
01:24:24,060 --> 01:24:27,330
celebrators that I've known who
were participated in stuff like

1402
01:24:27,330 --> 01:24:30,900
this they get paid they get paid
for their participation if you

1403
01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:33,930
look at the site here you see
artists action, introducing

1404
01:24:33,930 --> 01:24:37,770
artists action let's see. Sir
Paul McCartney backs the Global

1405
01:24:37,770 --> 01:24:41,100
Zero movement which is now he
may not have received payment

1406
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:46,230
for it but he was recruited
let's see do we have any no they

1407
01:24:46,230 --> 01:24:49,650
have a video here on they might
have a little promo then a

1408
01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:52,080
little promo that'd be cool and
then realize that now it doesn't

1409
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,890
seem to be working. Artists
we've worked with REM Pearl Jam

1410
01:24:55,890 --> 01:25:02,070
Tom Morello. Rise Against, rise
against hmm Jason Moran says

1411
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:05,700
Steve Earle the roots Alicia
Keys Yoko Ono Chris Cornell Paul

1412
01:25:05,700 --> 01:25:11,280
McCartney owsm ozomatli oh man
hum toma age, dirty projectors,

1413
01:25:11,310 --> 01:25:16,320
Jackson Browne, Serj Tankian
Talib Kweli, Alabama Shakes,

1414
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,310
Dave Matthews, artists action
adds a powerful new element to

1415
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:25,020
advocacy. When combined with
Fitzsimons, media, earned media

1416
01:25:25,020 --> 01:25:27,810
and digital strategies can tip
the scales cause a campaign to

1417
01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:30,090
stand out and reach a much wider
audience.

1418
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,610
Yeah. So in other words, what
you're saying and what I believe

1419
01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:36,780
is their selling here is that
these bands have sold out to

1420
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:40,020
these guys. Correct? Correct.
And so when you have they'll,

1421
01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:43,650
for one thing, they'll do a,
even though they will get paid,

1422
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,600
but they'll do a benefit for one
of these operations at the drop

1423
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,820
of a hat. They'll get paid
Exactly. They get paid, but

1424
01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:53,760
they'll do the benefit. And then
while doing the benefit, they'll

1425
01:25:53,790 --> 01:25:57,090
be saying things on stage like,
this is great what they're

1426
01:25:57,090 --> 01:25:58,890
doing. Yeah.

1427
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:04,680
Have you been a part of this? So
they have case studies. And this

1428
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:10,980
was the exposing backpage.com
child sex trafficking in our own

1429
01:26:10,980 --> 01:26:14,700
backyard? Do you remember how
big this campaign was? Well,

1430
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:18,390
these guys, they do that. Now.
I'm not saying that this is bad.

1431
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,320
But they you know, that it's
certainly not transparent is how

1432
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:27,090
it's happening. This was fair
girls paid for the campaign,

1433
01:26:27,810 --> 01:26:33,000
which was partnered with
change.org sign on.org, the

1434
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:38,280
Polaris Project, and on
something called Auburn, and

1435
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:45,480
they they essentially show how
they attacked Backpage. And so

1436
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:49,140
you may think that when you're
watching television, and you

1437
01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:53,190
know that oh, man, these kind of
started with We Are the World

1438
01:26:53,310 --> 01:26:56,250
and artists united against Sun
City hands

1439
01:26:56,250 --> 01:26:57,240
across America.

1440
01:26:58,350 --> 01:27:00,840
And it's all Bogota. It's all

1441
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,810
bowling. Well, we've been saying
that for five years, no, but to

1442
01:27:03,810 --> 01:27:07,020
advertise it and say, hey, oh,
yeah, no, actually, if we would

1443
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:10,680
do if we out, we could find all
of these operations. So I think,

1444
01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:13,830
I think exposing them once in a
while is a good thing. And this

1445
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:17,700
is a great example. I mean,
these guys are pay pay for play

1446
01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:20,970
as in other words, you get your
thing, which is one way which is

1447
01:27:20,970 --> 01:27:24,000
a sleazy way to do public
relations, by the way, but it

1448
01:27:24,030 --> 01:27:26,640
just you know, some people think
it's a better deal turns out not

1449
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,600
to be and then to have all these
sellouts which you just named,

1450
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,570
Dave Matthews, Jackson Browne.

1451
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,020
I've always respected that guy.

1452
01:27:37,650 --> 01:27:38,520
Well, there you have it.

1453
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:44,040
And Jimmy Wales now has said,
oh, you know what, we're gonna

1454
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:49,710
break the Wikipedia rules. And
we're going to track who was

1455
01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:53,790
using the Snowden talk page.
Maybe you're supposed to be able

1456
01:27:53,790 --> 01:27:57,450
to be anonymous. You know,
there's no tracking of Wikipedia

1457
01:27:57,450 --> 01:28:02,310
editors. And so no, no, no, not
Jimmy Wales. No, he's the

1458
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:04,680
protector of the book of
knowledge. He'll go and he'll

1459
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:10,170
try and track him down. Yeah, I
don't think the guy I think you

1460
01:28:10,170 --> 01:28:14,280
know what, I'm not even sure the
Snowden exists. I'm not even

1461
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,220
sure. I mean, it could be a
scam. It could be a war, it

1462
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:20,550
could be a beat Oh, no, we never
met him. No, have no no idea

1463
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:23,490
whatsoever. No idea whatsoever.

1464
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,060
Of course, you know, that kind
of thinking. False. I have a

1465
01:28:27,060 --> 01:28:30,810
clip, which I just cracked that
I didn't want to clip this whole

1466
01:28:30,810 --> 01:28:36,300
thing because it was really,
really kind of odd. But there's

1467
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:39,750
a clip with which is called the
idiotic puff piece for Google,

1468
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:43,350
the person that you're going to
be listening to here is a woman

1469
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:46,620
who is probably a high paid
executive at Google sounds just

1470
01:28:46,620 --> 01:28:50,340
like a moron. And they're
rolling out some new product,

1471
01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:52,740
you know, where Google can track
you and all kinds of new ways.

1472
01:28:52,740 --> 01:28:56,190
It's gonna make your life so
much better. And but there's a

1473
01:28:56,190 --> 01:29:00,240
couple of zingers in here about
you know, that make you wonder

1474
01:29:00,630 --> 01:29:04,350
who they think the American
public is, is stupid to think

1475
01:29:04,350 --> 01:29:07,410
that there is no such thing as a
Barack Obama and there are the

1476
01:29:07,410 --> 01:29:09,780
Eiffel Tower was made up. I just
play this sort

1477
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:14,220
of fully wired. That's a Google
aim to show at a townhouse in

1478
01:29:14,220 --> 01:29:18,270
New York City. The tech giant
demonstrated how its enhanced

1479
01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:21,570
search capabilities could
potentially improve everything

1480
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,180
from planning a wedding, to
cooking

1481
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,330
so well now understands real
people, places and things in the

1482
01:29:27,330 --> 01:29:30,990
world, like who's Barack Obama,
that he's an actual person or

1483
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:35,010
the MoMA or Eiffel Tower
understands it's actually a real

1484
01:29:35,010 --> 01:29:37,860
thing and can sort of give you
all the information you want to

1485
01:29:37,860 --> 01:29:41,370
know about that topic available
after this beautiful panel on

1486
01:29:41,370 --> 01:29:42,660
the webpage. Show me

1487
01:29:42,660 --> 01:29:44,850
pictures of the boardwalk in
Santa Cruz.

1488
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:54,990
Make a stop my ears. Who was
robbed? Can you show me a

1489
01:29:54,990 --> 01:29:56,850
picture of that Bagua car Rob

1490
01:29:56,850 --> 01:29:57,780
I showed me a picture.

1491
01:29:57,930 --> 01:30:01,680
Okay grass show me a tax law.
backlog. This is a smart home.

1492
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,270
Oh, wow. You know, we have not
moved beyond the your

1493
01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:09,810
refrigerator will know when to
order milk. We're still at that

1494
01:30:09,810 --> 01:30:13,200
stage all time favorite. Yeah,
where is that? I'm still waiting

1495
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:18,270
for the smart refrigerator. I
will say, the smart meters have

1496
01:30:18,270 --> 01:30:24,600
got to go. This crap is. And let
me explain why. Because this is

1497
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,260
very apropos in the whole
conversation about cell phone

1498
01:30:28,260 --> 01:30:32,850
metadata. Man, the metadata you
get from a smart meter when

1499
01:30:32,850 --> 01:30:36,990
you're home when you turn on
certain stuff. I mean, it is

1500
01:30:36,990 --> 01:30:42,090
actual RF reception, it can do a
million different things it has

1501
01:30:42,210 --> 01:30:46,800
this is the metadata of your
life is in the smart meters.

1502
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,530
And they can shut them off
remotely.

1503
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,160
Well, that's the best part. Hey,
slim, buddy. You

1504
01:30:53,190 --> 01:30:55,560
don't like? Like the way you're
voting?

1505
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,280
Boom, although I got a and this
is funny, because it's from

1506
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:04,890
FEMA. And I put it in the show
notes on the last show. I'll

1507
01:31:04,890 --> 01:31:09,480
republish it. It's a wood
burning gasifier. Are you

1508
01:31:09,480 --> 01:31:10,440
familiar with this?

1509
01:31:11,190 --> 01:31:13,140
As a matter of fact, I am. If
this is

1510
01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:16,650
really cool, you build this
woodburning thing. And you with

1511
01:31:16,650 --> 01:31:20,280
a series of tubes. You hook it
up to a generator and you can

1512
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:28,140
run the Gen you can run your car
on wood? Well, yes, yes. Yes.

1513
01:31:28,170 --> 01:31:29,070
Yes. Well, I

1514
01:31:29,070 --> 01:31:32,460
mean, you could it's a weird
product because it takes it

1515
01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:33,900
creates electricity.

1516
01:31:34,110 --> 01:31:39,720
No, no, no, it creates gasoline
that powers an engine.

1517
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:43,770
Okay. Have you ever seen this?
Now I've got the I've seen the

1518
01:31:43,770 --> 01:31:46,620
electricity one, which you burn
a bunch of stuff, and then you

1519
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:50,100
get some voltage out of a plug,
who I like that I haven't seen

1520
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:52,830
yet. They're very small. And
he's just burned. Do you know

1521
01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:54,300
that she didn't use electricity?

1522
01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:59,100
This is and it's from a FEMA
brochure. Gasification plant.

1523
01:31:59,370 --> 01:32:03,840
Yeah. And you put wood, you put
wood pellets in. And then you

1524
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,150
stir it around. And then it's
burning the charcoal and

1525
01:32:06,150 --> 01:32:09,690
whatever. And then you find it
goes through a filtration thing.

1526
01:32:09,870 --> 01:32:14,160
And then before you know it, you
open up the valve and you hook

1527
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,190
that up to your generator, or
I've seen people with a pickup

1528
01:32:17,190 --> 01:32:19,800
truck. They have actual pickup
trucks with this thing in the

1529
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,110
back. I mean, it's huge. It's
like it's like an alcohol

1530
01:32:22,110 --> 01:32:25,290
distillery. But they have that
in the back and the tube going

1531
01:32:25,290 --> 01:32:29,340
right in, right into the engine.
And they're driving us right up

1532
01:32:29,340 --> 01:32:32,970
your alley. Perfect. I'm like,
wow, how come this where's this

1533
01:32:32,970 --> 01:32:38,100
been all my life. I have the
pickup truck. I just if someone

1534
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:42,570
was wanting, I tried to look to
buy one. And there's really, you

1535
01:32:42,570 --> 01:32:45,000
know, it's like everybody says,
Oh, by plans, I don't want to

1536
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,560
plan. I want someone to come
here, build me the gasifier put

1537
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:54,270
it in the back of the truck, and
I want to drive on wood. It's

1538
01:32:54,270 --> 01:32:58,710
great. And the theme of brochure
actually says, you know, in the

1539
01:32:58,710 --> 01:33:02,610
UK, in case of, you know, if the
grid goes down, here's what you

1540
01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:06,750
need to do, you can build this
gasifier and you can run your

1541
01:33:06,750 --> 01:33:10,830
generator on it. And there's
tons of YouTube videos of guys

1542
01:33:10,830 --> 01:33:14,520
who built this. And it's
fascinating and like, how they

1543
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,970
put wood in and you know, you
got a barrel for this stuff. And

1544
01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:22,590
you can run your generator for
five hours on wood pellets or

1545
01:33:22,590 --> 01:33:26,400
whatever you whatever would you
want to burn. I had not heard of

1546
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,950
this. I was like, wow, yeah,
right up my alley. You're

1547
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:29,370
absolutely

1548
01:33:29,670 --> 01:33:33,240
keep researching it. Well, let's
get back to our sleaze ball

1549
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:37,470
operations. One that was that
was the highlight of love. I

1550
01:33:37,470 --> 01:33:39,750
know I can tell you would
probably be thrilled by this

1551
01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:40,290
knowledge.

1552
01:33:40,620 --> 01:33:42,240
I'm very, very grateful. I

1553
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,530
can use wood. I can buy some
seeds, some water purification.

1554
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:50,700
All right, we should sell this
stuff. Well. Yeah, there

1555
01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:55,950
you go. Let's sell plans. Hi,
everybody, by plans now on how

1556
01:33:55,950 --> 01:34:01,140
you can drive your car on wood.
That's right. Only 9995 We'll

1557
01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:05,640
send you the plans. And that's
with an extra $10 for shipping

1558
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,810
and handling. I read the
President's Climate Action Plan,

1559
01:34:11,130 --> 01:34:18,150
which I read before he did his
speech which conveniently was

1560
01:34:18,150 --> 01:34:21,630
done on the hottest day he could
find. So it looked like he was

1561
01:34:21,630 --> 01:34:26,430
really sweating from all of this
global warming. And

1562
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,770
exactly right. Yeah,

1563
01:34:28,860 --> 01:34:31,890
I need to ask you a couple
questions. You are of course not

1564
01:34:31,890 --> 01:34:34,320
only historian you are a
scientist, you have worked for

1565
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,530
the environmental protection and
Environmental Protection Agency.

1566
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,220
You are also an outstanding
chef. So I need to ask the

1567
01:34:41,250 --> 01:34:45,330
regional regional agency I need
to ask you a few questions about

1568
01:34:45,330 --> 01:34:47,580
the statements made by the
President.

1569
01:34:48,270 --> 01:34:51,600
At around the same time, we
began exploring space.

1570
01:34:52,110 --> 01:34:56,160
Scientists were studying changes
taking place in the Earth's

1571
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:01,560
atmosphere that scientists had
known Since the 1800s, that

1572
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,590
greenhouse gases like carbon
dioxide, trap heat,

1573
01:35:05,070 --> 01:35:10,050
is this true? Have we known this
since the 1800s? Not that I know

1574
01:35:10,050 --> 01:35:14,040
of, I mean, the 1800 scientists
is this Antonie van lay on

1575
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,910
hookah, he was inventing
inventing the telescope. Anyway,

1576
01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:21,300
I see some greenhouse gases up
there. I mean, is this a fact?

1577
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,920
And then I no doubt I'm sure,
you can give you read everything

1578
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,040
written in the 1800s. Somebody
probably said something. But

1579
01:35:29,790 --> 01:35:34,110
burning fossil fuels released
those gases into the air. That

1580
01:35:34,110 --> 01:35:38,160
wasn't news. But in the late
1950s, the National Weather

1581
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:42,060
Service began measuring the
levels of carbon dioxide in our

1582
01:35:42,060 --> 01:35:45,510
atmosphere, with the worry that
rising levels might someday

1583
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:49,800
disrupt the fragile balance that
makes our planet so hospitable.

1584
01:35:49,890 --> 01:35:52,890
Okay, so All right, Jill,
balance, all right. fragile

1585
01:35:52,890 --> 01:35:56,940
balance. Now. This is, this is
the big, the big one that

1586
01:35:56,940 --> 01:35:57,690
they're using

1587
01:35:57,780 --> 01:36:02,970
the 12 warmest years in recorded
history have all come in the

1588
01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:04,050
last 15 years.

1589
01:36:04,530 --> 01:36:11,160
This is a very interesting
statistic to me. So was that it

1590
01:36:11,550 --> 01:36:14,760
was the last three years that it
went down or where there's

1591
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,160
three, there's a gap of three
years where they weren't the

1592
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:21,180
warmest and what happened to
those? And is it just forever

1593
01:36:21,180 --> 01:36:24,960
and ever or recorded history? Do
we have records going back to

1594
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,770
the 1800s when the scientists
were were watching this, and

1595
01:36:28,770 --> 01:36:32,700
measuring this and knew about
fossil fuels to me was mind

1596
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:33,990
boggling statistic.

1597
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,390
Last year, at temperatures in
some areas of the ocean reached

1598
01:36:39,570 --> 01:36:44,550
record highs. Some and ice in
the Arctic shrank to its

1599
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:48,330
smallest size on record faster
than most models most had

1600
01:36:48,330 --> 01:36:49,140
predicted at what

1601
01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:49,980
models.

1602
01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:55,770
These are facts Oh, back. Now we
know that no single weather

1603
01:36:55,770 --> 01:37:00,180
event is caused solely by
climate change.

1604
01:37:01,260 --> 01:37:02,580
Now, this is very interesting.

1605
01:37:02,610 --> 01:37:04,950
This is why it's work I you
continue to see them working on

1606
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:07,410
the new the new sales pitch is
it's

1607
01:37:07,980 --> 01:37:09,900
very well done very well done

1608
01:37:09,930 --> 01:37:15,480
droughts and fires and floods,
they go back to ancient times as

1609
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:19,170
recorded, but we also know that
in a world that's warmer than it

1610
01:37:19,170 --> 01:37:26,820
used to be. All weather events
are affected by a warming

1611
01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:27,240
planet,

1612
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:28,590
this is a fact.

1613
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:33,000
All right, so Okay, all right.
I'm still good to go. Now he

1614
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,840
comes out with what I think is
the best line of the speech.

1615
01:37:38,430 --> 01:37:41,280
In fact, those who are already
feeling the effects of climate

1616
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,690
change, don't have time to deny
it. They're busy dealing with

1617
01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:45,780
it.

1618
01:37:46,469 --> 01:37:50,609
I think that that's a great
line. Those who are

1619
01:37:50,610 --> 01:37:54,330
in a hurry, actually what their
this was, I think this was put

1620
01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:57,660
in there. Because we know that
this may be checked, you know,

1621
01:37:57,660 --> 01:38:00,990
because a sunspot cycle and
whatever it may be reversing.

1622
01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:03,720
And we're going to not going to
have any more of these examples,

1623
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,050
they're going to start
disappearing just to enough of

1624
01:38:07,050 --> 01:38:09,510
an extreme that is going to make
everyone lose interest, which

1625
01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:12,000
you're already doing because of
the fake data and all the rest

1626
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,320
of it. And so I think this was
put in there to create the sense

1627
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,010
of urgency that they need to
start doing something. So when

1628
01:38:20,010 --> 01:38:22,530
it does reverse, they can say
look, we started doing some

1629
01:38:23,219 --> 01:38:26,069
work. Oh, yeah, no, no, this
that's very clear, it's already

1630
01:38:26,069 --> 01:38:30,389
going to happen. In this term.
You're already going to see this

1631
01:38:30,389 --> 01:38:32,339
go down that it will change.

1632
01:38:32,370 --> 01:38:36,060
So this is what happened with by
the way with acid rain.

1633
01:38:36,330 --> 01:38:39,750
He mentioned that in his speech,
he mentioned acid rain and how

1634
01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:40,320
that things

1635
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,840
died. I didn't notice that they
had a cap and trade program they

1636
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,380
put in somebody made a lot of
money on acid rain, and I don't

1637
01:38:46,380 --> 01:38:48,930
notice that anything's really
changed in the way people do

1638
01:38:48,930 --> 01:38:53,100
anything. Acid rain, the whole
acid rain thing was bogus. Let's

1639
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:53,400
listen

1640
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:54,600
to the science, John. So the

1641
01:38:54,600 --> 01:39:01,230
question is not whether we need
to act. The overwhelming

1642
01:39:01,230 --> 01:39:07,860
judgment of science, and
chemistry and physics. Wow. And

1643
01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:09,090
millions of measurements,

1644
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,650
millions of measurements. I

1645
01:39:10,650 --> 01:39:14,940
tell you, let's put all that to
rest 97% of scientists.

1646
01:39:17,970 --> 01:39:22,260
sciences, including by the way,
some who originally disputed the

1647
01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:22,590
data

1648
01:39:24,090 --> 01:39:28,230
97% of all scientists in the
known universe.

1649
01:39:28,410 --> 01:39:31,050
Yeah, this is bogus, because
there's so many scientists that

1650
01:39:31,050 --> 01:39:34,470
will not speak up about this
because they get shouted down by

1651
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:35,370
the maniacs.

1652
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:40,260
96 No, no, no. 98 No. 97%
Because there's a there's a

1653
01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:43,440
known number of scientists, you
know, they know exactly how many

1654
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:48,180
scientists there are. We asked
them all and 97% said you come

1655
01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:49,170
in. Yeah, that's

1656
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,660
that's the rest. They've
acknowledged the planet is

1657
01:39:51,660 --> 01:39:54,840
warming. And human activity is
contributing to it.

1658
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:58,770
This is very important. That's
fact fact.

1659
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,830
question now is whether we will
have the courage to act before

1660
01:40:04,830 --> 01:40:05,400
it's too late.

1661
01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:09,780
Okay, courage, very good now.
Now the President has that we

1662
01:40:09,780 --> 01:40:15,690
talked about performative acts
on on the show performative are

1663
01:40:16,140 --> 01:40:20,430
gathered. I mean, would you like
to take a stab at that John, the

1664
01:40:20,970 --> 01:40:28,020
perform their way of couching a
phrase is phraseology that that

1665
01:40:28,770 --> 01:40:32,070
essentially focuses attention on
what you're doing, not what

1666
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:37,230
you're saying, I think, is part
of the it a lot of days used as

1667
01:40:37,230 --> 01:40:37,920
propaganda.

1668
01:40:38,430 --> 01:40:43,590
It allows you to tell a lie,
without really telling a lie.

1669
01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:51,570
As a president, as a father, and
as an American, I'm here to say,

1670
01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:52,980
we need to act

1671
01:40:53,670 --> 01:40:59,220
and doesn't get any better than
that. Yeah. As a scientist, no,

1672
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:04,110
no, as a father, as a father, as
a American as a president. I'm

1673
01:41:04,110 --> 01:41:08,070
here to say, he doesn't he's not
doing the fact thing. He's like,

1674
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:16,560
I'm here to say. I found that to
be one of the best performances

1675
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,280
I've heard him do. And it was a
good one. It was Jim. The sad

1676
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,970
fact of all this or really not
sad. If you looked at the price

1677
01:41:23,970 --> 01:41:26,850
of natural gas, John, has it
gone up? It must have gone up

1678
01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:30,150
isn't it cannot have stayed
down. It hasn't gone up

1679
01:41:30,150 --> 01:41:31,470
as much as you'd like to
believe.

1680
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:32,910
Is it around four bucks now? Is

1681
01:41:32,910 --> 01:41:35,130
it finally I think it's still
under four? And let me take a

1682
01:41:35,130 --> 01:41:38,520
look. It's got, like 390. Last
time I looked, it's got

1683
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:43,140
to be okay. But it remember it
was a three. So it's gone up by

1684
01:41:43,140 --> 01:41:51,660
33%? A Oh, yeah. Because this is
all about,

1685
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,360
it's $3.59.

1686
01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:58,470
So it's not bounding out of the
gate. This is all about natural

1687
01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:59,010
gas.

1688
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,500
By the way, gold is down to
1212. And

1689
01:42:01,530 --> 01:42:05,520
we can talk about that. Let's
get on with natural gas for a

1690
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:06,780
moment. But bottom

1691
01:42:06,780 --> 01:42:11,670
line is natural gas is creating
jobs. It's lowering many

1692
01:42:11,670 --> 01:42:16,770
families, heat and power bills.
And it's the transition fuel

1693
01:42:16,770 --> 01:42:21,300
that can power our economy with
less carbon pollution, even as

1694
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:25,680
our businesses work to develop,
and then deploy more of the

1695
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,790
technology required for the even
cleaner, energy economy of the

1696
01:42:29,790 --> 01:42:30,990
future. Yeah, he,

1697
01:42:31,170 --> 01:42:34,470
in the speech, he very briefly
mentioned nuclear, which I was

1698
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:36,660
happy to hear you know, I'm a
big fan of nuclear, I think it

1699
01:42:36,660 --> 01:42:40,500
truly is the ultimate renewable
in the planet itself. There's

1700
01:42:40,530 --> 01:42:43,980
there is under the $7 billion
that will be made available,

1701
01:42:43,980 --> 01:42:48,720
which is pretty much nothing.
There is a provision for new

1702
01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:54,540
compact reactors. Now we have
you know, some the NDA the

1703
01:42:54,540 --> 01:42:58,740
nuclear the regulatory agency
within our government, it pretty

1704
01:42:58,740 --> 01:43:01,830
much has anti nuke people
running it. So I don't expect

1705
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:05,340
this to happen. Because, you
know, nuclear is not a good

1706
01:43:05,340 --> 01:43:09,780
deal. Nuclear is not you can't
gouge people over and over again

1707
01:43:09,780 --> 01:43:12,960
for nuclear. Although I think
they're stupid because there's

1708
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:13,560
actually

1709
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,630
up there is a model that does
work for a backyard nukes. Yeah,

1710
01:43:18,750 --> 01:43:23,400
that will power your house for
over 100 years and unmaintained

1711
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:26,280
Yeah, you just put it back there
and you plug them you know thing

1712
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,650
into the generator circuit and
you're done. You're good to go

1713
01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:29,280
forever.

1714
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:34,770
I don't understand why they
don't see the the opportunity is

1715
01:43:35,010 --> 01:43:38,250
to create nuclear plants are
very expensive to build, not

1716
01:43:38,250 --> 01:43:40,260
because the plant is so
expensive to build, because of

1717
01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:43,770
all the regulatory bullcrap that
made it impossible. Also,

1718
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:46,410
there's some elements of the
plant because we don't do what

1719
01:43:46,410 --> 01:43:50,190
the French do, we have a non
standardized system. So every

1720
01:43:50,190 --> 01:43:53,640
plant is different. They're all
custom made, it's like let's say

1721
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,270
you have a car, we drive cars.
So instead of buying a Toyota

1722
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:59,850
every time you buy a new car,
you'd actually go to a custom

1723
01:43:59,850 --> 01:44:03,180
guy and have the car built from
scratch. What do you think that

1724
01:44:03,180 --> 01:44:04,830
would cost compared to a Toyota

1725
01:44:04,860 --> 01:44:10,170
right right? I think the
opportunity is to build these

1726
01:44:10,530 --> 01:44:14,820
these reactors hook everyone up
to it and then just charging for

1727
01:44:14,820 --> 01:44:17,790
the nothing there so I don't
understand why they don't no one

1728
01:44:17,790 --> 01:44:21,240
sees this you know, it's like
because it's not once you build

1729
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:25,530
it, it's working is running you
know the these new reactors, the

1730
01:44:25,530 --> 01:44:28,230
breeders they eat their own
book, they eat their own poop

1731
01:44:28,230 --> 01:44:30,660
and you know, they did put it
back into the into the front

1732
01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:33,960
end. There's very little there's
almost no waste to just

1733
01:44:34,440 --> 01:44:38,130
perpetual motion almost That's
how good this stuff is. And then

1734
01:44:38,130 --> 01:44:41,010
you could charge people for air.
I don't understand why no one

1735
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,780
sees that opportunity. But okay,
I did get a note from producer

1736
01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:49,860
Steve. I don't want to confirm
gas lines are installed with

1737
01:44:49,860 --> 01:44:53,130
solar panels. I'm an attorney
for a large corporation, and was

1738
01:44:53,130 --> 01:44:55,740
asked to review some provisions
in a contract for the

1739
01:44:55,740 --> 01:44:59,190
installation of solar panels on
one of our locations in these

1740
01:44:59,190 --> 01:45:02,670
instances. I usually scan the
entire contract before honing in

1741
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:06,720
on the language directly related
to my speciality. Much to my

1742
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,690
surprise, a lot of information
that contract related to gas

1743
01:45:09,690 --> 01:45:12,660
lines, I found was particularly
odd because this is an existing

1744
01:45:12,660 --> 01:45:16,770
location. So it's already it
already has utility service. As

1745
01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:19,710
such, there's no need for a
backup, the backup the solar,

1746
01:45:19,710 --> 01:45:22,800
presumably, they could just use
the existing electrical provider

1747
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,610
when the solar isn't adequate.
But all the solar stuff and wind

1748
01:45:26,610 --> 01:45:32,130
stuff, it's all hiding gas
burners, bad gas turbine, it's

1749
01:45:32,130 --> 01:45:36,150
all about gas. And we've well we
know this, because this is what

1750
01:45:36,150 --> 01:45:39,780
we've been following for ever
since episode 381. I think we've

1751
01:45:39,780 --> 01:45:43,200
been following pipelines and gas
lines. And that's what this is

1752
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,330
all about. So the idea was as
predicted under the Clean Air

1753
01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:52,920
Act, is to think essentially
give us rolling blackouts, or

1754
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:56,220
whatever we get is going to make
coal, which is dirty, although

1755
01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:57,510
you can make it very clean.

1756
01:45:57,930 --> 01:46:02,460
Actually, most coal today can be
made extremely clean, yes. With

1757
01:46:02,460 --> 01:46:07,140
the floating beds, and scrubbers
and all the rest of it, and you

1758
01:46:07,140 --> 01:46:09,480
know, but nobody wants to talk
about any of this. Because now,

1759
01:46:09,690 --> 01:46:14,070
after all, we have 350 years, if
we just power the entire country

1760
01:46:14,070 --> 01:46:17,820
with coal, we have so much coal,
we're that everyone says this,

1761
01:46:17,820 --> 01:46:20,010
they don't say it anymore. We're
gonna say it again on the show.

1762
01:46:20,190 --> 01:46:26,370
We are the Saudi Arabia of coal.
We have 350 years supply. If we

1763
01:46:26,370 --> 01:46:29,580
use nothing but gold, we would
be powering the United States

1764
01:46:29,580 --> 01:46:32,910
for the next three or 50 years.
No problem. So Wow. You know,

1765
01:46:32,910 --> 01:46:35,370
that's not that's not any good.
We can't do that.

1766
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,080
And to help them do it faster,

1767
01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:39,150
because now he's talking about
this is part of the whole

1768
01:46:39,150 --> 01:46:43,050
climate change deal is you know,
you help the poor nations, you

1769
01:46:43,050 --> 01:46:46,050
give them the money, you trade,
you cap, whatever you do.

1770
01:46:46,440 --> 01:46:49,770
We're going to partner with our
private sector to apply.

1771
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,730
What is this partner with the
private sector business? What

1772
01:46:53,730 --> 01:46:53,970
does that

1773
01:46:54,150 --> 01:46:57,840
corporatism is Fascism is what
it means. When someone says that

1774
01:46:57,870 --> 01:47:00,720
that to me, that's like real.
I'd like a deal like that. Can I

1775
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,450
partner with the government
government have no agenda show?

1776
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,610
Yeah, that's part of what you
partner with me brought

1777
01:47:05,610 --> 01:47:09,210
by private sector technological
know how in countries the

1778
01:47:09,210 --> 01:47:11,160
transition to natural gas?

1779
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:14,850
Yeah, so he's now selling for
the gas industry.

1780
01:47:14,910 --> 01:47:17,340
We've mobilized billions of
dollars in private capital for

1781
01:47:17,340 --> 01:47:18,870
clean energy projects. How

1782
01:47:18,870 --> 01:47:22,770
does he mobilize billions of
dollars in clean in private

1783
01:47:22,770 --> 01:47:26,220
capital? How does that I mean,
I'm hearing the words come out

1784
01:47:26,220 --> 01:47:29,730
of his mouth. we've mobilized
billions of dollars in private

1785
01:47:29,730 --> 01:47:33,030
equity, really, then you must
have held some carrot in front

1786
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:37,020
of them. Private Equity doesn't
just jump up and down, say, Oh,

1787
01:47:37,260 --> 01:47:39,990
hi, I really want to save the
world. Let me give you billions

1788
01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:40,710
of dollars now,

1789
01:47:41,220 --> 01:47:46,620
around the world. Today, I'm
calling for an end of public

1790
01:47:46,620 --> 01:47:49,980
financing for new coal plants
overseas unless they deploy

1791
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:54,210
carbon capture technologies. Or
there's no other viable way for

1792
01:47:54,210 --> 01:47:56,610
the poorest countries to
generate electricity. And

1793
01:47:56,610 --> 01:47:57,510
there's genies

1794
01:47:57,510 --> 01:48:02,460
contract. Wow. So unless, unless
unless there's really no other

1795
01:48:02,460 --> 01:48:06,030
way they can do it, then you
know, but since when do we fund

1796
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:11,460
public funds for coal plants
overseas? Mexico is what

1797
01:48:11,850 --> 01:48:13,800
foreign? I think that means
Mexico?

1798
01:48:14,610 --> 01:48:15,450
We don't know that.

1799
01:48:15,450 --> 01:48:17,190
Yes, we do. That's Are you
kidding?

1800
01:48:17,190 --> 01:48:18,900
We don't know this just Mexico.

1801
01:48:18,990 --> 01:48:22,680
Oh, no, but that's important to
us because they're shutting down

1802
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:27,090
coal plants in Texas. Texas now
buys its electricity from Mexico

1803
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:34,200
from coal plants built by GE did
you know this?

1804
01:48:34,260 --> 01:48:37,110
No. Texas piece of news Yeah,

1805
01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:41,820
they shut down they shutting
down all these Do you remember

1806
01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:45,300
the Super Bowl we had here in
Texas? We have a Super Bowl with

1807
01:48:45,330 --> 01:48:46,950
like the power went out.

1808
01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:50,760
Right right. Yes. Is the power
of the this was the Super Bowl

1809
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:51,660
in Dallas. Yeah,

1810
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,750
that's because they had to shut
down the plants the shutting

1811
01:48:54,750 --> 01:48:58,440
down these coal plants in Texas,
so that we can then import

1812
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:02,700
energy from Mexico with coal
from coal plants. It's not like

1813
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,960
the coal dust doesn't float over
the border built by GE it's you

1814
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,030
can't make you can't make this
stuff up

1815
01:49:09,090 --> 01:49:11,190
the viable way for the poorest
countries to generate

1816
01:49:11,190 --> 01:49:12,540
electricity. Yeah.

1817
01:49:13,710 --> 01:49:16,620
You know what I just say screw
the poor countries what I say

1818
01:49:16,620 --> 01:49:20,310
Screw you guys. Alright, then
the final final bit. And this is

1819
01:49:20,370 --> 01:49:24,000
this just put it all to rest. So
the conversation is over. You

1820
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:24,960
just need to shut up.

1821
01:49:25,380 --> 01:49:28,620
Nobody has a monopoly on what is
a very hard problem. But I don't

1822
01:49:28,620 --> 01:49:31,890
have much patience for anyone
who denies that this challenge

1823
01:49:31,890 --> 01:49:33,150
is real. No.

1824
01:49:38,370 --> 01:49:45,120
The sciences we don't have time
for a meeting of the flatter

1825
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:45,810
society.

1826
01:49:45,870 --> 01:49:49,770
We don't have time for a meeting
of the Flat Earth Society.

1827
01:49:50,940 --> 01:49:55,290
Wow. You know, it's funny
because I heard that thing but

1828
01:49:55,620 --> 01:49:58,920
taking it apart the way you just
did by deconstructing and

1829
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,400
listening to each segue And then
trying to figure out what it's

1830
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,010
about. Because everything's
about something. Yeah. And then

1831
01:50:05,010 --> 01:50:07,950
coming up with a shut up slave
at the end, would it got you a

1832
01:50:07,950 --> 01:50:10,560
clip of the week? It's
definitely the produce thing you

1833
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,080
did, which I'm gonna, I want you
to play again at the end of

1834
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,710
Yeah, no, I understand I
understand. And well, let me

1835
01:50:16,710 --> 01:50:19,620
wrap it up then because this
whole speech was filled with

1836
01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:25,110
performative and one of our
producers, who just blew my

1837
01:50:25,110 --> 01:50:30,750
mind, let me see if I have this
producers. Let me see who the

1838
01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:37,410
this was Mike Karasik. Adam, I
study linguistics in college and

1839
01:50:37,410 --> 01:50:40,530
grad school. So your discussion
of performative on Sunday show

1840
01:50:40,530 --> 01:50:44,640
was very interesting. I was
thinking about it. So this is we

1841
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,910
have smart people listening grad
school. I mean, if that means

1842
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:48,840
you as a professor,

1843
01:50:49,799 --> 01:50:52,259
no, no, it means he's a visa
grad student trying to get his

1844
01:50:52,259 --> 01:50:53,429
PhD or his masters.

1845
01:50:53,459 --> 01:50:56,309
So he may already have it. He
may already be there. But I

1846
01:50:56,309 --> 01:50:59,249
didn't go to college. So I'm
already impressed. I got a

1847
01:50:59,249 --> 01:51:04,079
college kid talking to me. Yeah.
I was thinking, I think I found

1848
01:51:04,079 --> 01:51:08,009
the ultimate performative. Would
you like to hear it, John?

1849
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:09,900
No, not really.

1850
01:51:11,940 --> 01:51:15,420
saying Obama, do solemnly swear
That I will faithfully execute,

1851
01:51:15,540 --> 01:51:18,780
that I will faithfully execute
the office of President of the

1852
01:51:18,780 --> 01:51:19,650
United States.

1853
01:51:20,580 --> 01:51:27,630
If the whole oath is a
performative I do solemnly swear

1854
01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:32,370
That I will faithfully execute
to the best of my ability,

1855
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,550
the office of President of the
United States, and will to the

1856
01:51:35,550 --> 01:51:38,430
best of my ability, and will to
the best of my ability,

1857
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:42,300
preserve, protect, and defend,
preserve, protect and defend the

1858
01:51:42,300 --> 01:51:44,160
Constitution of the United
States.

1859
01:51:44,460 --> 01:51:48,120
The whole thing is open to
interpretation now.

1860
01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:53,220
Well, he's already interpreted
that his job is not to defend

1861
01:51:53,220 --> 01:51:55,410
the Constitution, but to protect
us from evil.

1862
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:06,810
And let me just mess with your
head. No agenda show final note

1863
01:52:06,810 --> 01:52:10,950
for today from Jared, I had to
call Microsoft this morning and

1864
01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:15,240
remembered what was said on
Sunday show, I was on hold. And

1865
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:18,210
I said, Fuck, each time, the
voice system wanted me to say

1866
01:52:18,210 --> 01:52:21,930
things like office, I was then
told to hold on for a

1867
01:52:21,930 --> 01:52:26,700
representative. The outsource
representative was even nicer

1868
01:52:26,700 --> 01:52:30,090
than usual. To me, I think the
tip works.

1869
01:52:31,650 --> 01:52:33,810
Why don't you re explain the tip
to somebody who didn't catch

1870
01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:34,320
that show.

1871
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:39,630
We've had multiple sis
administrators who work on voice

1872
01:52:39,630 --> 01:52:44,070
systems, emails about voice
recognition that of course, the

1873
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:48,270
NSA employs and uses to listen
to everything. And these are

1874
01:52:48,270 --> 01:52:52,590
used in commercial companies.
And if the voice system detects

1875
01:52:52,590 --> 01:52:57,450
you are agitated, you get moved
to the front of the line. And

1876
01:52:57,450 --> 01:53:00,540
all you have to do and he
specifically said the F word is

1877
01:53:00,540 --> 01:53:02,850
the word that you use and make
it sound like you're really

1878
01:53:02,850 --> 01:53:06,570
agitated. And this guy tested it
he called Microsoft. And every

1879
01:53:06,570 --> 01:53:10,290
single time he had to provide an
answer with I don't even think

1880
01:53:10,290 --> 01:53:14,910
you have to wait for the voice
prompt. You say fuck, Pa and

1881
01:53:14,910 --> 01:53:18,960
boom, he got immediately put
onto a live person within 35

1882
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:19,560
seconds.

1883
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:24,000
That is that is the tip of the
of the year for us.

1884
01:53:24,030 --> 01:53:27,060
Well, they it goes along with
our can't raise my arms above my

1885
01:53:27,060 --> 01:53:28,290
shoulder thing. Yeah, well,
there's

1886
01:53:28,290 --> 01:53:31,170
that. But what you don't not
everyone's flying around all the

1887
01:53:31,170 --> 01:53:33,480
time. You do need technical
support, or you have to call

1888
01:53:33,480 --> 01:53:37,200
these these phony machines
constantly. Yeah, so yeah, it's

1889
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:37,740
interesting.

1890
01:53:38,310 --> 01:53:41,370
Now, I mean, we need to try it.
Everyone, please try this. We

1891
01:53:41,370 --> 01:53:45,570
really, really didn't know that
this is working. But to me, this

1892
01:53:45,570 --> 01:53:52,650
is fact proof. I'm liking it.
And that alone, that alone will

1893
01:53:52,650 --> 01:53:54,960
be worth your price of admission
to this podcast.

1894
01:53:55,470 --> 01:53:58,770
I'm gonna show my son move by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

1895
01:53:58,770 --> 01:54:01,470
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

1896
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:12,330
This is a fact. I think I'm
telling you one hour of that

1897
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:15,960
would be ideal. Just over and
over again. I'll put you by two

1898
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,600
yet but five seconds in between
try try it now.

1899
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:24,900
Oh, I just dropped it. Well,
it's kind of wait, hold on. I

1900
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:29,400
know how to do this. This. This
is a fact that I'll do I'll do a

1901
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,280
couple of times in a row on a
second. Let me set it up.

1902
01:54:33,660 --> 01:54:36,030
Because now you're asking me to
do stuff that wasn't prepared.

1903
01:54:36,060 --> 01:54:40,590
So what should it be a little,
like something in between or

1904
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:44,880
just be? This is a fact and then
a pause? About five seconds?

1905
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:48,240
Okay. All right. Then again,
forever. Here

1906
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:51,990
we go. This is a fact. This is a
fact.

1907
01:54:52,230 --> 01:54:55,980
Now today's gonna be more in
behind. More time in between, I

1908
01:54:55,980 --> 01:54:59,550
think close to 10 seconds.
Really? Yeah. Okay, well, let's

1909
01:54:59,550 --> 01:55:09,750
try it. This is a fact. This is
a fact. This is a fact. Yeah,

1910
01:55:09,780 --> 01:55:10,500
I think that would be

1911
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:12,060
done. I'm not done yet.

1912
01:55:12,210 --> 01:55:17,190
This is a fact. This is a fact.

1913
01:55:18,570 --> 01:55:22,350
Yeah, this is a fact. And then
you can play that that bald guy

1914
01:55:22,350 --> 01:55:22,710
the.

1915
01:55:24,330 --> 01:55:27,120
Okay, I'll do that at the end of
the show. Okay, here we

1916
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:31,080
go. And let's just thank a few
of the producers. Please save me

1917
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:37,620
five. Jason Stevens in lost
wages. Nevada $111.11. Alan

1918
01:55:37,980 --> 01:55:41,880
$110, just plain old Allen in
Silverdale. Washington, home of

1919
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:46,200
the Silverdale mall. I just got
my DoD federal furlough letter,

1920
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:50,790
so I'd better do this now while
I can still afford it. Yeah, we

1921
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:53,040
just got a birthday shout out
for George Orwell.

1922
01:55:53,580 --> 01:55:55,320
Really? Is that on the list?

1923
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:59,700
She would think so. It's all
highlighted. Philip mercury,

1924
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,810
mercury in rothem. Munster,

1925
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,590
okay, I would say markert
manuscripta. Mafia, macro, macro

1926
01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:09,720
and Gitmo Deutschland

1927
01:56:09,870 --> 01:56:11,220
Deutschland 100 bucks.

1928
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:12,900
Let's see. What does he say
here?

1929
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:16,200
Hi. Having lost show out of
sight for a longer period of

1930
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,480
time. I'd like to report back by
donating some my hard earned

1931
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,150
money as an employee of the
Deutsche Bahn. Oh, he's

1932
01:56:21,150 --> 01:56:30,300
the railroad man. Yeah. Byron
good Fluke slick. Actually, they

1933
01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:33,570
have their debts crazy look Beep
beep beep beep the horn which

1934
01:56:33,570 --> 01:56:35,880
I'd love to get a good recording
of

1935
01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:39,750
we need to do a German version
should be einsteiger on the

1936
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:40,950
board trains

1937
01:56:46,260 --> 01:56:53,280
would men call a colon or Colin
9495 Note Ervin EarLens Jr.

1938
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:59,430
Split 7557 and Alameda
California. Josh Morris. 69. Oh,

1939
01:56:59,430 --> 01:57:04,230
sorry. I was still I'm still on
my German vibe. Oh, there we go.

1940
01:57:04,620 --> 01:57:05,850
69.

1941
01:57:07,980 --> 01:57:10,740
Last show we did there was four
and then of course, it's all

1942
01:57:10,770 --> 01:57:15,840
been downhill since our big 6969
days. Yeah, he says he's been a

1943
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,080
boner for too long, reasonable
karma at the end of the day, at

1944
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:23,400
the end of the messaging Matthew
Wittering 69 in Bedford, by the

1945
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:27,510
way of Morris was in character
Matthew. Kearney. Missoura sir

1946
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:31,740
Matthew Wittering in
Bedfordshire, UK. Greg Gregory

1947
01:57:31,740 --> 01:57:34,830
ball and Wallsend tine on
tasers.

1948
01:57:35,940 --> 01:57:37,950
It's done. Holy mackerel.

1949
01:57:37,950 --> 01:57:44,250
That's it. Done. So we'll have
probably two on Sunday and then

1950
01:57:44,250 --> 01:57:46,800
I think this whole thing which
has been going on for over a

1951
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:51,930
year will be dead. Good. I know
you've been you've been looking

1952
01:57:51,930 --> 01:57:52,440
forward to it.

1953
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:56,430
Yeah, yeah, that's me, man.

1954
01:57:56,460 --> 01:57:58,620
I've been looking forward to it
and looking forward to it.

1955
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:04,920
Rebecca waters came in was 69.00
out of New Mexico. Lawrence

1956
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:09,210
dring and Chesterfield, Michigan
5555. Maxwell Roberts double

1957
01:58:09,210 --> 01:58:13,140
nickels on the diamond
Manhattan, Kansas. Aaron Schnee

1958
01:58:13,140 --> 01:58:19,080
in Lincoln, Nebraska. 5510.
Kevin Payne 5069 in Richmond,

1959
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:22,500
Virginia. Second mile
productions in Liberty, Maine.

1960
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,480
Oh, that's Brian and Susie. Is
it Yeah, Brian and Susie Morris

1961
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:31,500
the member we stayed at their
house. And they've they've

1962
01:58:31,500 --> 01:58:35,460
invited us they now they went
from their place in Ohio.

1963
01:58:36,990 --> 01:58:39,720
Remember, the these are the
these are the cats who said oh,

1964
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,090
you know we're on vacation. But
here's the keys to the car, the

1965
01:58:42,090 --> 01:58:45,420
keys to the house. You know, do
whatever you want. They now have

1966
01:58:45,420 --> 01:58:49,680
like 153 acres in Liberty Maine.
And I don't think they have

1967
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:50,490
electricity.

1968
01:58:51,690 --> 01:58:54,330
But I just get one of those
woodburners Yeah.

1969
01:58:54,900 --> 01:58:57,000
Brian Has anybody got stuff I'm
sure

1970
01:58:57,179 --> 01:59:01,319
50 bucks and Peter toe tase shad
rich and Seattle. 50 IQ Bradley

1971
01:59:01,319 --> 01:59:06,539
Walker spring Texas and Gregory
Rosati and Suffolk Virginia.

1972
01:59:06,539 --> 01:59:11,309
That's it. We're done. Okay,
shortlist.

1973
01:59:11,339 --> 01:59:14,369
Yes. Well, thank you very much.
We highly appreciate any

1974
01:59:14,369 --> 01:59:17,789
donations. We really love the
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1975
01:59:18,029 --> 01:59:21,299
stepping up to more and more it
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1976
01:59:21,299 --> 01:59:28,769
get on to 3333 or maybe $4 a you
know the for a week it really is

1977
01:59:28,769 --> 01:59:31,859
it we appreciate it very much
please check your subscription

1978
01:59:31,859 --> 01:59:35,999
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1979
01:59:36,179 --> 01:59:40,349
we had two this week that that
we rejected Yeah, because we

1980
01:59:40,349 --> 01:59:43,769
just we just don't want your
money. So we know we know that's

1981
01:59:43,769 --> 01:59:49,589
right. We reject it so funny.
Yeah. Yeah, it's hilarious. Was

1982
01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:53,669
there a note here from Sir Ryan,
we had to read. There was

1983
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:56,249
something on the I've got Hey,
John and Adam, when this whole

1984
01:59:56,249 --> 02:00:00,689
NSA spying thing broke nobody in
the office except for me. Were

1985
02:00:00,689 --> 02:00:03,929
completely shocked that our own
government do such a thing. Oh,

1986
02:00:03,929 --> 02:00:06,479
did we get it? Did we get
something from Brian? I don't

1987
02:00:06,479 --> 02:00:07,109
think so.

1988
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:11,160
Anyway, no, but I did get an
anonymous thing.

1989
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But let me let me finish this
note. How could members of our

1990
02:00:15,689 --> 02:00:18,869
own government sworn to protect
the Constitution go behind our

1991
02:00:18,869 --> 02:00:22,289
backs and do such a thing? My
boss with whom I've discussed no

1992
02:00:22,289 --> 02:00:25,739
agenda several times summed it
up best when he said, you know,

1993
02:00:25,739 --> 02:00:29,099
the worst thing about the NSA
spying is that they're proving

1994
02:00:29,099 --> 02:00:37,109
Adam curry right he said time to
donate. So he was even he's in

1995
02:00:37,109 --> 02:00:39,299
he said, If Pay Pal he was
sending us a check so that's

1996
02:00:39,299 --> 02:00:43,619
very cool. But that's that is
kind of sad when and more and

1997
02:00:43,619 --> 02:00:48,629
more I'm seeing this. People
saying hey, oh, this tinfoil hat

1998
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:51,899
people will raid me Have you
seen that? Have you noticed

1999
02:00:51,899 --> 02:00:55,049
this? Yeah. So what is it? What
is the appropriate response?

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02:00:55,049 --> 02:00:57,539
What should we be doing about
this? Nothing just screws

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02:00:57,570 --> 02:00:59,280
the sawed off.

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02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:04,740
All right. Hey. And also thank
you very much to our executive

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02:01:04,740 --> 02:01:07,110
producers and Associate
Executive Producers actual

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02:01:07,110 --> 02:01:10,140
credits. If you need someone to
vouch for you just have them

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02:01:10,140 --> 02:01:15,360
call us we'll take care yeah.
vorak.org/and A.

2006
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,610
Munich he regulates himself. He
turns 30. Today, Chris heffleys

2007
02:01:26,610 --> 02:01:30,900
has Happy Birthday to himself on
the 29th and his daughter Jersey

2008
02:01:30,900 --> 02:01:35,730
will be 12 on July 2, happy
birthday jersey. Gerald Beth Key

2009
02:01:36,060 --> 02:01:39,690
says Happy Birthday to George
Orwell it would have been 110 on

2010
02:01:39,690 --> 02:01:43,740
June 25. Dan Miller's dad
celebrates on the 30th Lawrence

2011
02:01:43,740 --> 02:01:48,060
Dring says Happy Birthday to his
daughter Harley Dring happy 18th

2012
02:01:48,330 --> 02:01:54,870
Prime no agenda material. And
Rebecca waters has a birthday

2013
02:01:54,870 --> 02:01:58,680
shout out as well. And I
remembered Rolf Lehmann Happy

2014
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:01,170
birthday to you Ralph, your
birthday on the 30th from all

2015
02:02:01,170 --> 02:02:06,810
your friends here at the best
podcast in the universe. Please

2016
02:02:06,810 --> 02:02:09,300
remember us for the Sunday show.
It's always a little slow on

2017
02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:12,780
Sunday today was like so we are
going into the summer months we

2018
02:02:12,780 --> 02:02:16,860
need extra help it because it's
not like like the workload gets

2019
02:02:16,860 --> 02:02:19,770
less. John Stewart went on
vacation thinking what could go

2020
02:02:19,770 --> 02:02:20,130
actually

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02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,760
I think Yeah. directing movies
on vacation. He misses all the

2022
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:24,270
good stuff.

2023
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:28,020
I think he's directing a movie
or something. But yeah, we can't

2024
02:02:28,050 --> 02:02:30,450
we can't leave. We're going to
take that thing to shows off.

2025
02:02:30,450 --> 02:02:31,110
We're working

2026
02:02:31,110 --> 02:02:35,490
on July the fourth. Yeah. What
what what what person on

2027
02:02:35,490 --> 02:02:37,560
television works on July the
fourth? Nobody.

2028
02:02:38,790 --> 02:02:44,790
I've been a fan of Howard Stern
ever always liked what he do

2029
02:02:44,790 --> 02:02:47,550
what he does on the radio. And I
grew up when I grew up, but I

2030
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:54,030
listened to him in New York.
When I had no was driving an MTV

2031
02:02:54,030 --> 02:02:56,580
from Jersey when I lived in New
York, and also when were my

2032
02:02:56,580 --> 02:03:01,020
first company, and I was I
listened a lot. And I think he

2033
02:03:01,020 --> 02:03:05,820
still has quite a big following.
on Sirius XM. Would you say

2034
02:03:05,820 --> 02:03:06,840
that's pretty much all that.

2035
02:03:07,050 --> 02:03:10,800
That's all listen, I've listened
to one time when it last time I

2036
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:15,930
drove up to Washington, I ended
up listening to Howard Stern on

2037
02:03:15,930 --> 02:03:18,960
a lot of the trip because I had
a satellite radio in the car.

2038
02:03:19,290 --> 02:03:22,830
And I would say that one thing
that's interesting about this

2039
02:03:22,830 --> 02:03:25,620
was just best off. So it was
just like a lot of his stuff. I

2040
02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:28,350
think the one thing that's
overlooked about him since he's

2041
02:03:28,410 --> 02:03:32,550
he kind of presents himself as a
douchebag. But he is one of the

2042
02:03:32,580 --> 02:03:36,420
most interesting and
outrageously talented

2043
02:03:36,510 --> 02:03:40,080
interviewers. Yeah, than I've
ever heard in my life because he

2044
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:44,460
will get people because the way
he does it. I mean, I follow

2045
02:03:44,460 --> 02:03:46,350
interviewers, because I think
you can learn a lot if you do

2046
02:03:46,350 --> 02:03:49,320
interviewing at all, and I do it
occasionally. You can learn a

2047
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:52,020
lot by watching the best I mean,
Larry King was another good one.

2048
02:03:52,020 --> 02:03:55,590
He had some tricks that were
interesting, but but Stern is

2049
02:03:55,650 --> 02:04:02,160
absolutely astonishing. The way
he will start to dig at somebody

2050
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:06,630
when he when he senses a nugget
that he wants to get out. Yeah.

2051
02:04:06,630 --> 02:04:12,030
And he will just go after and
dig and dig and dig and any

2052
02:04:12,030 --> 02:04:13,620
somewhat irresistible I suppose.

2053
02:04:14,310 --> 02:04:19,410
And luckily he has always kept
Robin by his side, for she

2054
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:23,940
understands how this country
works. Stern, not so much.

2055
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,360
government surveillance efforts
are credited with boiling more

2056
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:31,590
than 50 terror plots since 911.
This is all since you know it

2057
02:04:31,590 --> 02:04:36,420
was leaked that the NSA is
spying on us. They now are

2058
02:04:36,420 --> 02:04:40,290
saying look because of that
spying. We've been foiling

2059
02:04:40,290 --> 02:04:44,850
terror plots. Yeah, of course.
So I believe that is their

2060
02:04:44,850 --> 02:04:45,630
excuse.

2061
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:50,070
He's He's truthful here. That's
the sad part. People who don't

2062
02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:53,670
believe anything that government
says but I believe them. You

2063
02:04:53,670 --> 02:04:55,230
know, we've heard about some of
them.

2064
02:04:56,430 --> 02:05:01,440
There's no problem with wanting
to catch terrorists. The problem

2065
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:08,460
is when my rights as an American
citizen are infringed upon

2066
02:05:08,460 --> 02:05:13,770
because of your desire to be
safe.

2067
02:05:15,570 --> 02:05:20,520
Listen, we're talking about
people being blown up. Place,

2068
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:20,790
yes.

2069
02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:23,490
But we're also talking about
people having information they

2070
02:05:23,490 --> 02:05:26,580
might use against people who
don't

2071
02:05:26,580 --> 02:05:30,210
deserve to next time by the next
time a World Trade Center thing

2072
02:05:30,210 --> 02:05:35,700
goes off or a dirty bomb, God
forbid goes off and we can't

2073
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:36,330
read your

2074
02:05:36,599 --> 02:05:41,789
How bad is this? He just goes on
and on and on. He thinks

2075
02:05:41,790 --> 02:05:45,870
is terrible. And then they
bought into that 50 terror apply

2076
02:05:45,870 --> 02:05:49,230
bull crap, because we had a clip
on the last show people that

2077
02:05:49,260 --> 02:05:51,060
didn't listen, the last show
they should listen to this clip,

2078
02:05:51,300 --> 02:05:54,450
which was which was a caucus
discussion in front of all the

2079
02:05:54,450 --> 02:05:57,090
aides and some of the
congressional aides were the guy

2080
02:05:57,090 --> 02:05:59,130
outline the ones that were
revealed and they were all

2081
02:05:59,130 --> 02:06:02,040
bogus. There were damning,
foiled nothing.

2082
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:06,720
I get goes on and on. And I'll
leave it in the in the show

2083
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:09,270
notes so you can listen to the
whole clip. But he just keeps on

2084
02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:12,000
going. He knew like if you want
to say something private, don't

2085
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,210
say it on the phone. Don't say
it on email. Yeah, let's

2086
02:06:15,210 --> 02:06:18,480
just turn into a Stasi branded
operation. Yeah, that's

2087
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,820
terrible. There's no excuse. Now
this is what this is what

2088
02:06:20,820 --> 02:06:24,930
happens when you're a guy that
has over $100 million in the

2089
02:06:24,930 --> 02:06:28,290
bank. He's got half a billion
dollars. I believe they gave him

2090
02:06:28,290 --> 02:06:31,530
so much money. And he doesn't
care anymore. He doesn't care

2091
02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:32,850
about the the people.

2092
02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:39,120
The people who made a man dude,
we made you do and W ne W man.

2093
02:06:39,420 --> 02:06:43,860
So they've K rock man.
Interesting job of slamming

2094
02:06:43,890 --> 02:06:46,500
Ecuador. I've noticed. There's a
couple of things. I want to

2095
02:06:46,500 --> 02:06:48,840
point out that I thought were
another thing that was never

2096
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:52,140
asked by the media. But I
thought was hilarious that no

2097
02:06:52,140 --> 02:06:56,970
one's ever brought this up. When
Snowden was supposedly on the

2098
02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:01,890
flight to depending on who you
talk to Cuba, or Venezuela from

2099
02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:06,690
the Russian airport on slide
seat 15, on an Aeroflot flight,

2100
02:07:06,690 --> 02:07:11,130
you remember that? It wasn't?
This is all this is no way. This

2101
02:07:11,130 --> 02:07:13,770
is the part of you that no one's
talking about. And I would like

2102
02:07:13,770 --> 02:07:17,280
to see somebody even bring it
up. Does anybody noticed the

2103
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:20,670
hilarity of this of this whole
thing? Because that plane was

2104
02:07:20,670 --> 02:07:25,380
stuffed with reporters? Yeah. So
here you are. You're a reporter

2105
02:07:25,380 --> 02:07:27,840
you found out about this because
they publicize the flight

2106
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:32,010
number, you get a ticket. Now
you're on a flight to Venezuela

2107
02:07:32,010 --> 02:07:35,490
with nothing to do and you got
to go turn back around the other

2108
02:07:35,490 --> 02:07:38,730
way. This is a this is just to
me, this is the funniest thing

2109
02:07:38,730 --> 02:07:41,820
about this whole deal was all
these boneheads have gotten

2110
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:46,110
where am I go? Oh, man, I'm
gonna be stuck in Venice or

2111
02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:50,250
Cuba? Cuba, I don't even have a
hotel room.

2112
02:07:51,570 --> 02:07:54,150
Oh, that's what these guys do.
They go there they go get drunk

2113
02:07:54,150 --> 02:07:55,320
and have sex with each other.

2114
02:07:55,860 --> 02:07:59,670
Know that maybe? That could be
Yeah. But they're already doing

2115
02:07:59,670 --> 02:08:02,190
that, we have to remember that I
got two clips about Ecuador, and

2116
02:08:02,190 --> 02:08:04,320
they're dead. They're doing
everything they can to defame

2117
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,560
the place. And they got these
people with these crazy analysis

2118
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:11,130
that are crap. But I want to
make sure that people remember

2119
02:08:11,130 --> 02:08:14,370
if you've read one of our
seminal books that we push on

2120
02:08:14,370 --> 02:08:19,860
this show, which is Confessions
of an economic hitman. And we

2121
02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:24,270
have at least one if not a bunch
of economic hitman men who

2122
02:08:24,270 --> 02:08:29,130
listen to the show. The target
of the government was going to

2123
02:08:29,130 --> 02:08:34,410
be Ecuador. And for various
reasons, Ecuador managed to pull

2124
02:08:34,410 --> 02:08:38,070
out of the being used by the
United States to be just

2125
02:08:38,070 --> 02:08:41,310
exploited. And they're still
trying to get money from

2126
02:08:41,310 --> 02:08:44,730
Standard Oil for screwing up of
once it was a part of their

2127
02:08:44,910 --> 02:08:48,330
environment with a big oil
spill, they won't clean up and

2128
02:08:48,330 --> 02:08:52,440
the US won't do anything about
it. And they the the guy who

2129
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:56,790
wrote it a Confessions of an
economic hitman. One wants to

2130
02:08:56,790 --> 02:08:59,610
move to Ecuador thinks is a
great place and a lot of people

2131
02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:02,670
you know, think it's a it's a
fine place to live because you

2132
02:09:02,670 --> 02:09:05,430
don't have a lot of these crazy
influences. But they're doing

2133
02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:09,720
everything they can on these TV
shows, to blast the crap out of

2134
02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:13,020
Ecuador that make it sound like
it's the world's worst place.

2135
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,750
And we just played these goods
comments on Ecuador and then

2136
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:16,680
Ecuador to

2137
02:09:17,070 --> 02:09:22,170
Ecuador grants Nova pass Should
we stop handing them the cash,

2138
02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:25,500
the US shelling out more than
$21 million this year to the

2139
02:09:25,500 --> 02:09:29,250
Latin American nation on top of
another $11 million requested

2140
02:09:29,250 --> 02:09:32,970
for next year. National security
analyst Aaron Cohen said

2141
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:36,150
love this The sound effects are
off the hook on this show.

2142
02:09:36,180 --> 02:09:38,430
You're gonna have to use that on
PBS.

2143
02:09:38,460 --> 02:09:40,740
What are we flying through the
screen when he's talking like

2144
02:09:40,740 --> 02:09:40,950
this?

2145
02:09:41,340 --> 02:09:43,410
They just show a little just
nothing.

2146
02:09:46,350 --> 02:09:49,710
Cut them off. If they cut this
guy, right. That's what you do

2147
02:09:49,710 --> 02:09:51,600
and just cut them right off
right there.

2148
02:09:52,740 --> 02:09:55,920
Go I think we need to take a
look at a couple of hard facts.

2149
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,220
Stuart regarding Ecuador. I
don't think many people are

2150
02:09:59,220 --> 02:10:03,540
aware but the fact We don't even
have an Ecuadorian ambassador in

2151
02:10:03,540 --> 02:10:08,070
the US. And the reason why is
because in April 2011, a secret

2152
02:10:08,070 --> 02:10:11,730
classified cable was leaked by
our then ambassador in Ecuador,

2153
02:10:11,730 --> 02:10:15,780
which had significant proof and
information that there was such

2154
02:10:15,780 --> 02:10:19,380
an extreme amount of corruption
in Ecuador. And so they ended up

2155
02:10:19,380 --> 02:10:22,590
tossing him out. And so
effectively ended up tossing the

2156
02:10:22,590 --> 02:10:26,880
ambassador here in the US out,
as you know, to reciprocate it.

2157
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:29,340
So the fact is, is that we're
giving millions and millions of

2158
02:10:29,340 --> 02:10:32,070
dollars to this country right
now who may potentially be

2159
02:10:32,070 --> 02:10:34,830
harboring somebody who could
have been responsible for one of

2160
02:10:34,830 --> 02:10:37,800
the most massive intelligent
leaks in the history of both

2161
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:42,210
private contracting and our
espionage world, which could

2162
02:10:42,210 --> 02:10:44,730
affect the national security of
the threat level for us on a

2163
02:10:44,730 --> 02:10:48,540
very high macro level as it
pertains to terrorism. So we've

2164
02:10:48,540 --> 02:10:50,520
had trouble with these guys for
a long time. Well,

2165
02:10:50,820 --> 02:10:53,070
whoever the guy is, does he have
a book out? And he better have a

2166
02:10:53,070 --> 02:10:53,310
book?

2167
02:10:53,460 --> 02:10:59,400
No, you said he's got some
private operation total, just to

2168
02:11:00,150 --> 02:11:02,850
see that he had anything going
on that would even research

2169
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,240
we need we need to sound a
little more important. I don't

2170
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,760
think we're doing it right. So
I'm gonna have you intro Ecuador

2171
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:12,360
to but I'm going to first set
you up. So no agenda show we

2172
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:17,130
have John C. Dvorak. John. What
is your Ecuador clip?

2173
02:11:17,460 --> 02:11:19,200
I don't know. But I've got it.
Do we have

2174
02:11:19,230 --> 02:11:23,400
that much leverage? But if we
suggest we'll take away the cash

2175
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:28,230
$21 million? If you give him
asylum, is that much leverage

2176
02:11:28,230 --> 02:11:29,940
for people who are already
hostile to us?

2177
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:35,100
i It's a good question. I think
that $20 million is a lot of

2178
02:11:35,100 --> 02:11:40,200
leverage to a country that faces
as much corruption as Ecuador

2179
02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:41,700
does get to remember that $21

2180
02:11:41,700 --> 02:11:45,120
million. That's what an actor
gets for a movie. This is not

2181
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:48,270
money Johnny Depp's getting this
is not money,

2182
02:11:48,300 --> 02:11:52,320
corridors a country that is one
of the the largest countries

2183
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,960
involved with money laundering,
which is a key element of

2184
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:58,350
terrorism. And it's also one of
the hubs for processing one of

2185
02:11:58,350 --> 02:12:02,190
the chemical elements in
cocaine, and they also allow

2186
02:12:02,190 --> 02:12:05,130
those drugs to be able to be
moved freely. And while they

2187
02:12:05,130 --> 02:12:07,650
claim they want to clean up
their country. The fact is, is

2188
02:12:07,650 --> 02:12:10,140
that there's very little proof
of that. And so I think, taken

2189
02:12:10,140 --> 02:12:15,030
away those funds, will actually
deliver a significant enough hit

2190
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:17,760
for those people if and for that
government to go, Hey, wait a

2191
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:20,370
second here. Maybe we need to
have a closer look at our policy

2192
02:12:20,370 --> 02:12:24,780
regarding US security interest,
particularly with our spy

2193
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:27,810
business as it relates to
terror. This is serious stuff.

2194
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:31,290
You're a national security
analyst, in your opinion. Is it

2195
02:12:31,290 --> 02:12:31,710
like

2196
02:12:32,250 --> 02:12:35,490
a stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
This is what I'm going to try

2197
02:12:35,490 --> 02:12:42,450
the next dinner. When I'm
introduced to the professor, the

2198
02:12:42,450 --> 02:12:45,150
performance linguistic
professor? Yeah, it's you say

2199
02:12:45,150 --> 02:12:49,800
what do you do? I'm a national
security analyst. Yeah, I'm

2200
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:52,260
gonna be become one to think
that's we are we are national

2201
02:12:52,260 --> 02:12:53,760
security analysts that Snowden

2202
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:57,150
has already given this guy,
whatever information he can to

2203
02:12:57,150 --> 02:12:58,410
China and Russia.

2204
02:13:00,030 --> 02:13:03,240
I think that I That's a good
question. I think that we have

2205
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:07,410
to assume that that whatever
information Snowden had on his

2206
02:13:07,410 --> 02:13:10,500
little martyr, escapade, which
is really what this is right

2207
02:13:10,500 --> 02:13:12,300
now. It's this attention. I'm
gonna throw

2208
02:13:12,300 --> 02:13:16,230
up. Yeah, this gets good. You
got to back it up. So here the

2209
02:13:16,230 --> 02:13:20,310
whole thing. It's beautiful.
Okay. All right. escapade,

2210
02:13:20,610 --> 02:13:24,930
ever information Snowden had on
his little martyr escapade,

2211
02:13:24,930 --> 02:13:27,060
which is really what this is
right now. It's just attention

2212
02:13:27,060 --> 02:13:30,630
seeking bizarre thing that's
happening I believe that we have

2213
02:13:30,630 --> 02:13:35,160
to treat this particular case as
if all of the information that

2214
02:13:35,160 --> 02:13:39,990
he may have access to was leaked
all right,

2215
02:13:40,020 --> 02:13:43,260
I was I brought the other point
which is if they don't have

2216
02:13:43,260 --> 02:13:46,170
gotten spies, they got more
stuff this don't ever dug up.

2217
02:13:46,410 --> 02:13:47,670
Can I just say one thing?

2218
02:13:50,250 --> 02:13:51,540
Say two things. How

2219
02:13:51,540 --> 02:13:53,490
fantastic is Australia?

2220
02:13:55,260 --> 02:13:58,740
What did the guy who finally got
rid of the of the ginger

2221
02:13:59,010 --> 02:14:02,400
ale but they've got apparently I
did not know this. But we have a

2222
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:07,590
system in Australia. Where it's
like a poison pill. It's like

2223
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:11,640
this one's no good. Get rid of
this one. We'll put another one

2224
02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:14,310
in place. Can you imagine if we
had that here?

2225
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:19,320
Well, they have that in in the
UK too. And in Canada, it's the

2226
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:22,110
same system. And yeah, you can
get these people you can house

2227
02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:23,700
these people at the drop of a
hat.

2228
02:14:23,700 --> 02:14:28,140
I love that system. I know. Come
on. It's great.

2229
02:14:28,980 --> 02:14:31,950
Well, it's it has its problems
too. I mean, look at that. She

2230
02:14:31,950 --> 02:14:34,320
got in and she was stuck on it
for a long time. She should have

2231
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:37,800
been out for a long time now.
People are in there for decades.

2232
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:40,140
Of course it has his problems
and the main problem being the

2233
02:14:40,140 --> 02:14:45,060
Queen has to approve it. The
Queen of England is is okay I

2234
02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:49,380
prove that's the real problem.
Now she it but it's just

2235
02:14:49,950 --> 02:14:50,730
theater.

2236
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:53,430
By the way. I want to go back to
that clip where the guy says oh,

2237
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:56,820
they had chemical elements,
chemical elements in the

2238
02:14:56,820 --> 02:15:00,570
processing of the cocaine. What
is that? elements that

2239
02:15:00,570 --> 02:15:06,300
pneumonia what is it called
beliefs? No, no you make you

2240
02:15:06,300 --> 02:15:07,950
make coke with other stuff don't
you

2241
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:12,330
know yeah it's coca leaves you
to extract the coca leaves you

2242
02:15:12,330 --> 02:15:20,580
don't you don't you stop Ecuador
and and Peru both are cocaine

2243
02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:24,360
legalized as cocaine is legal
but nobody uses it. They use

2244
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:26,970
these leaves constantly because
they're high altitude countries.

2245
02:15:27,150 --> 02:15:30,570
And so people are chewing on
these leaves constantly. It's a

2246
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:34,080
it's a great product. And you
know they're not part of the

2247
02:15:34,110 --> 02:15:36,780
cartels or anything else. This
is this.

2248
02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:39,390
It's a great product. Do you
just say that?

2249
02:15:39,570 --> 02:15:43,320
I've used it? Cocaine? No, no,
the lead. Oh,

2250
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:45,540
okay. In what the lead? What
have you used that in?

2251
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:48,810
I use it when I was in the Andes
and I was floating around and

2252
02:15:48,810 --> 02:15:51,450
you if you don't have this
stuff, my favorite example Okay,

2253
02:15:51,450 --> 02:15:53,700
so there's my old man up.

2254
02:15:55,980 --> 02:15:59,640
please indulge me for a moment.
I want everyone to get a little

2255
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:04,170
visual. Close your eyes. John is
roaming around in the Andes.

2256
02:16:04,530 --> 02:16:08,010
Exactly. So here I am. And so
I'm up in this that for I think

2257
02:16:08,010 --> 02:16:11,340
we're at 14 Five or some some
altitude by yourself, where you

2258
02:16:11,340 --> 02:16:14,310
with the group of people who
just want to visit some little

2259
02:16:14,310 --> 02:16:18,630
village? Do you ever Sherpa?
That's the that the Sherpas are

2260
02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:21,570
in a different part of the
world. Anyway, so what is Zol?

2261
02:16:21,570 --> 02:16:24,300
Guys? I knew about the coca leaf
trick. Yes,

2262
02:16:24,330 --> 02:16:27,030
you chew it for height six
altitude sickness

2263
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:29,850
well, and energy because you
don't just walk here.

2264
02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:33,510
Yeah, no kidding. For energy,

2265
02:16:33,690 --> 02:16:36,450
don't get a buzz from it. This
whole thing is bogus and very

2266
02:16:36,450 --> 02:16:39,390
promising. They have all that
they have the coca tea, you

2267
02:16:39,420 --> 02:16:42,270
drink a bunch of that. And then
you get the coca leaf. And you

2268
02:16:42,270 --> 02:16:44,910
put the cocoa and the guys, old
guys show me how to do it, you

2269
02:16:44,910 --> 02:16:48,330
know, and I'm like the only guy
like he was showing you how to

2270
02:16:48,330 --> 02:16:52,020
cut a guy. Group. That's true in
this stuff, because the other

2271
02:16:52,170 --> 02:16:56,190
Americans are all lots of it's
illegal. And so I'm thinking,

2272
02:16:57,870 --> 02:17:01,800
Andy's, for God's sake, was this
group from Berkeley?

2273
02:17:02,039 --> 02:17:04,799
No, they're just a bunch of guys
from around the country. But

2274
02:17:04,799 --> 02:17:08,369
whatever the case is they none
of them but myself, and maybe

2275
02:17:08,369 --> 02:17:11,969
one other guy would chew these
leaves. And so and I'm like, the

2276
02:17:11,969 --> 02:17:14,909
oldest guy by 20 years, because
they're all a bunch of

2277
02:17:14,909 --> 02:17:19,229
millennials or ex generals or
whatever. So I am wandering

2278
02:17:19,229 --> 02:17:21,599
around and it's very hard to
was,

2279
02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:24,989
first of all, you know, you've
told us this story before,

2280
02:17:24,989 --> 02:17:28,199
right? Oh, yeah, twice. But I
would like you to add a new

2281
02:17:28,199 --> 02:17:30,209
twist I want Who are these guys?

2282
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:32,939
I don't remember. Oh, bull crap.
You

2283
02:17:32,940 --> 02:17:36,360
don't remember? What group were
you with? You know that they

2284
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:39,630
were Gen X's. So who were these
people, you need to give us a

2285
02:17:39,630 --> 02:17:44,280
new information. By by the by
the just be honest, for once.

2286
02:17:44,370 --> 02:17:47,250
I'm always honest, I'm just
trying to think what the group

2287
02:17:47,250 --> 02:17:50,760
was called at the time. It was
Roberto milk and a bunch of his

2288
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:55,710
compatriots who run a Import
Export operation. A group of us

2289
02:17:55,710 --> 02:17:57,240
to go visit one of the

2290
02:17:58,170 --> 02:18:01,620
import export a Roberto

2291
02:18:02,340 --> 02:18:04,440
was in fact, I think, I think
was bought by National

2292
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:05,880
Geographic called Novica.

2293
02:18:05,969 --> 02:18:12,689
He's Roberto milk from the
Novica. Yeah, Novica, a mission

2294
02:18:12,689 --> 02:18:15,209
driven company that works with
artisans around Are you an

2295
02:18:15,209 --> 02:18:15,809
artisan?

2296
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:20,339
No, I was brought to meet some
of these artisans. I was part of

2297
02:18:20,339 --> 02:18:21,059
a group, what

2298
02:18:21,059 --> 02:18:25,649
is an artisan there guys who
make pots. Maybe let me finish.

2299
02:18:26,189 --> 02:18:28,799
I want to be an artisan. I don't
want to be an analyst anymore.

2300
02:18:29,399 --> 02:18:30,929
All right, finish your story.
And

2301
02:18:30,930 --> 02:18:33,720
if you have any skills, so
you're a better analyst. So

2302
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:36,600
anyway, so. So meanwhile,
there's very few of us are

2303
02:18:36,600 --> 02:18:39,090
chewing on it. But I'm chewing
on his fine, we wandered around,

2304
02:18:39,420 --> 02:18:43,440
we visited some places. And then
we have to come down back. We

2305
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:46,320
have to walk up a hill in
downtown in order to get back to

2306
02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:53,010
the bus. And I am walking past
these kids who are 20 years

2307
02:18:53,010 --> 02:18:56,820
younger than me and they're bent
over trying to catch their

2308
02:18:56,820 --> 02:19:00,990
breath. And it was like and I
just breezed right by him and go

2309
02:19:00,990 --> 02:19:03,540
get in the bus and wait for him
to finally drag their sorry

2310
02:19:03,540 --> 02:19:06,570
asses to the bus. Because
there's pooped because they

2311
02:19:06,570 --> 02:19:11,880
can't they wouldn't draw again.
Just illegal. It's like you're

2312
02:19:11,880 --> 02:19:12,660
with you people.

2313
02:19:13,050 --> 02:19:16,320
And it's still a good story. And
did you go Hey, girls, as you

2314
02:19:16,320 --> 02:19:21,450
walk by? You know, you

2315
02:19:21,450 --> 02:19:24,120
think this story is so funny. I
think it's pathetic because you

2316
02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:27,960
have a situation where you have
a very positive product. And the

2317
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:32,130
coca leaf tea is a great
product. It's an it's like it's

2318
02:19:32,130 --> 02:19:34,530
thought of as cocaine which is
bullcrap

2319
02:19:34,920 --> 02:19:38,280
this somehow there's the come
Okay, let me explain why it's

2320
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:42,690
funny. So your stories never
tie. It's like my uncle Don.

2321
02:19:42,750 --> 02:19:50,400
I've heard him tell the shoot
debajo story 10 times and it's

2322
02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:55,170
funny every single time. And
when you tell a story, it's the

2323
02:19:55,170 --> 02:20:00,180
combination of you painting the
picture, and the chat room. Just

2324
02:20:02,370 --> 02:20:03,630
bring it to life.

2325
02:20:06,420 --> 02:20:07,410
Screw the chat room.

2326
02:20:09,929 --> 02:20:11,849
I like it. No, I'm

2327
02:20:11,850 --> 02:20:12,960
sad. I wasn't there.

2328
02:20:13,589 --> 02:20:14,849
You woulda loved it. Great.

2329
02:20:14,880 --> 02:20:18,240
I would have been. I've been
like drugs handed over. Let's do

2330
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:20,220
it. JCD were hard drugs.

2331
02:20:20,370 --> 02:20:25,320
Is that you? They serve coca
leaf tea in the airport lounge.

2332
02:20:25,890 --> 02:20:26,190
No,

2333
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:31,440
no, no, you are debunking great
myths. I like it. And I just

2334
02:20:31,650 --> 02:20:35,760
liked that these. These idiot
Gen Xers like Ooh, man, it's

2335
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:38,310
coke. I can't have that. And
yeah, that's funny. When they

2336
02:20:38,310 --> 02:20:41,820
saw that when they saw you doing
it, why didn't someone go wait a

2337
02:20:41,820 --> 02:20:42,450
minute?

2338
02:20:42,990 --> 02:20:45,510
Yeah, they just did. It was an
old Berkeley hippie. I don't

2339
02:20:45,510 --> 02:20:47,280
know what they're thinking. All
right,

2340
02:20:47,280 --> 02:20:51,720
so that was Berkeley people.
Anyway, artisans. I'm an

2341
02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:56,190
entertainment artisan. Well, I
like that I like your stories. I

2342
02:20:56,190 --> 02:20:56,790
really do.

2343
02:20:58,530 --> 02:21:00,600
I'm not telling that story
again, ever.

2344
02:21:00,630 --> 02:21:03,300
Oh, please. I'll make sure you
bring it up.

2345
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:06,780
So anyway, there's a couple of
things. I wanted to mention the

2346
02:21:06,780 --> 02:21:09,180
second half of the show before
we get to the spinning mummy.

2347
02:21:11,790 --> 02:21:14,730
Whoa, hold on a second. You
can't just go to second half

2348
02:21:14,730 --> 02:21:16,230
without the official

2349
02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:25,500
resources. No entry. Second
half.

2350
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:35,070
So tonight, we're talking about
my anecdotes I've ever mentioned

2351
02:21:35,070 --> 02:21:37,440
the story where I worked with
Dianne Feinstein

2352
02:21:37,860 --> 02:21:41,790
know the douchebag of
California. Yeah, I also

2353
02:21:41,790 --> 02:21:43,830
Barbara Boxer, both them and
they were both on the air

2354
02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:46,920
pollution District Board of
Directors and did a bunch of

2355
02:21:46,920 --> 02:21:51,450
things for them. And the hearing
board I believe and and I've

2356
02:21:51,450 --> 02:21:54,750
always thought the two things.
Two things were noteworthy. One

2357
02:21:54,750 --> 02:21:58,680
is that this is like long time
ago, but Barbara Boxer was

2358
02:21:58,710 --> 02:22:02,190
always trying to pick up the air
pollution inspectors. And she

2359
02:22:02,190 --> 02:22:02,670
always knew me

2360
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:10,110
for like six, yes. Whoa, really?
Barbara Boxer? Yeah. If she

2361
02:22:10,470 --> 02:22:13,920
looked at me, she looks like you
know the type. But anyway, but

2362
02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:18,510
the better story. Doesn't she
mentioned her 20 years? Yeah,

2363
02:22:18,510 --> 02:22:19,110
hold on. Hold

2364
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:24,330
on. Oh, yeah. Oh, she looks
totally slutty. You're so right.

2365
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:25,110
Is she married?

2366
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:26,490
I don't know.

2367
02:22:26,910 --> 02:22:30,750
I can follow her career. Can I
just say something? If I were

2368
02:22:30,750 --> 02:22:31,830
you married at the time.

2369
02:22:32,370 --> 02:22:35,970
I never to do a driver home
because I was warned. But guys

2370
02:22:35,970 --> 02:22:38,070
didn't like they were she was
very pushy,

2371
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:40,740
but 20 years ago, come on, and I
would have done her.

2372
02:22:41,430 --> 02:22:43,680
Well, you probably would have.
Yeah. So anyway, so here's the

2373
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:47,040
story. The better story is the
Dianne Feinstein story. So we

2374
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:51,510
have a it was actually longer
than 20 years ago. So it shows

2375
02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:55,620
really, she was really So Diane.
So we have the dispatch room,

2376
02:22:55,650 --> 02:23:01,710
which also was the file room.
And so there's a couple of women

2377
02:23:01,710 --> 02:23:05,610
dispatchers in the file room,
and it was just about no windows

2378
02:23:05,610 --> 02:23:09,150
is in the middle of the place is
horrible. So they decided the

2379
02:23:09,180 --> 02:23:12,210
the women decided they're going
to keep the back door open. So

2380
02:23:12,210 --> 02:23:15,780
they get some sunlight in there.
And it's a nicer place. When

2381
02:23:15,780 --> 02:23:18,690
once they opened the back door
and left it open inspectors

2382
02:23:18,690 --> 02:23:22,740
would commonly go into the file
part of this operation and steal

2383
02:23:22,740 --> 02:23:25,080
files. They just take them
because then they wouldn't check

2384
02:23:25,080 --> 02:23:27,180
them out. Because it was what's
the worst pain in the ass pain

2385
02:23:27,180 --> 02:23:30,960
in the ass. Right. And they
bring it back later. So the the

2386
02:23:30,960 --> 02:23:33,960
women working in the in the
dispatch office because they

2387
02:23:33,960 --> 02:23:37,590
were responsible for all these
missing files. They put a chain

2388
02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:42,540
across the door, they bolted a
chain to keep guys from coming

2389
02:23:42,540 --> 02:23:46,320
in and out. But they kept the
door open. Feinstein with all

2390
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:50,850
her wisdom. She comes rolling in
and she sees the chain. And she

2391
02:23:50,850 --> 02:23:55,620
sees the women. And she makes a
big stink saying why are they

2392
02:23:55,620 --> 02:24:01,650
chaining the door to block these
women in place? It's disgusting.

2393
02:24:02,580 --> 02:24:07,170
It's sexist, right? And no one
would they tried to explain to

2394
02:24:07,170 --> 02:24:09,300
her that this was no this was to
keep the inspectors from coming

2395
02:24:09,300 --> 02:24:12,540
in and out and casually grabbing
files, which was a huge problem.

2396
02:24:12,810 --> 02:24:16,860
But no, she would have none of
it. The chain had to be removed.

2397
02:24:16,860 --> 02:24:19,410
And so with a router they had to
close the door. So they locked

2398
02:24:19,410 --> 02:24:23,610
these girls back up into this
dark room. And this is the kind

2399
02:24:23,610 --> 02:24:28,500
of idiot that she is. So you
have to take always assume she's

2400
02:24:28,500 --> 02:24:30,930
a dummy. And the point I'm going
to make here is here's your

2401
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:34,170
idiotic suppositions about
Snowden. Let's play that first.

2402
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:38,280
Okay. I was wondering the story.

2403
02:24:38,310 --> 02:24:41,550
I had actually thought that
China would see this as an

2404
02:24:41,550 --> 02:24:47,460
opportunity to improve relations
and extradite him to the United

2405
02:24:47,460 --> 02:24:52,650
States. China clearly had a role
in this in my view. I don't

2406
02:24:52,650 --> 02:24:57,660
think this was just Hong Kong
without Chinese acquiescence. I

2407
02:24:57,660 --> 02:25:01,110
think his choice of Moscow was
interesting. thing. I think

2408
02:25:01,110 --> 02:25:05,280
what's interesting is that he
was taken off in a car and his

2409
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:10,890
luggage in a separate car. I
think it'll be very interesting

2410
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:17,250
to see what Moscow does with
him. Thirdly, he clearly was

2411
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:22,440
aided and abetted, possibly by
the WikiLeaks organization, I

2412
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:26,550
heard a rumor that he was
traveling with someone. And so

2413
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:28,920
this had to have been all pre
planned.

2414
02:25:29,340 --> 02:25:33,870
Wow. Alright, so this book is
not a single fact in there,

2415
02:25:33,900 --> 02:25:37,620
not all bullshit, whatever she
heard in the She's the head of

2416
02:25:37,620 --> 02:25:40,470
the Intelligence Committee for
the Senate. So she gets to hear

2417
02:25:40,470 --> 02:25:44,010
everything. And the other guy
who's also a stooge, which is

2418
02:25:44,010 --> 02:25:47,070
Mike Rogers is the head of the
Intelligence Committee for the

2419
02:25:47,070 --> 02:25:51,030
house. And both of these people,
Mike Rogers, in particular, I

2420
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:55,860
believe, actually think they're
spies. There, though, they have

2421
02:25:55,860 --> 02:25:59,550
all this information that the
rest of Congress does not have.

2422
02:25:59,550 --> 02:26:02,430
And they're essentially working
for the agencies that they're

2423
02:26:02,430 --> 02:26:06,060
supposed to be doing oversight
on. And this is explained in a

2424
02:26:06,060 --> 02:26:09,810
clip called Capture theory that
public administrators know

2425
02:26:09,810 --> 02:26:12,660
about. And if you play the
capture theory, clip, you can

2426
02:26:12,660 --> 02:26:15,300
see what's happening here and
why these people are essentially

2427
02:26:15,300 --> 02:26:16,740
useless in this job

2428
02:26:16,770 --> 02:26:20,100
and certifications, the court
has pretty limited discretion in

2429
02:26:20,100 --> 02:26:22,920
denying that order. And also,
for more generally, there's a

2430
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:26,310
concept in public choice theory
called regulatory capture. The

2431
02:26:26,310 --> 02:26:29,760
idea here is that a regulatory
agency that works very closely

2432
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:33,360
with a particular regulated
industry will often get captured

2433
02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:38,460
by that industry. In effect, the
regulation will become not a way

2434
02:26:38,460 --> 02:26:41,550
of checking the industry, but a
form of serving its interests,

2435
02:26:41,550 --> 02:26:43,890
because that's who the
regulators are, are spending

2436
02:26:43,890 --> 02:26:47,340
most of their time talking to. I
think there's a lot of evidence

2437
02:26:47,340 --> 02:26:50,700
to suggest that something
similar may have happened with

2438
02:26:50,700 --> 02:26:54,660
the FISA Court, which again, is
meeting in secret with one side,

2439
02:26:54,750 --> 02:26:59,490
kind of, you know, continuously
one tidbit of evidence here,

2440
02:26:59,490 --> 02:27:03,000
right, is that we know,
initially, the kind of bulk

2441
02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:06,360
metadata surveillance that we've
seen disclosed in these orders

2442
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:09,870
was done, just according to
presidential directive without

2443
02:27:09,870 --> 02:27:13,470
court order. And so you ask,
Well, why if the court can do

2444
02:27:13,470 --> 02:27:17,100
this, and this is all legal
under the Patriot Act, would you

2445
02:27:17,220 --> 02:27:19,830
not just have gone that route
from the beginning? And I think

2446
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:23,460
the answer seems to be pretty
clearly no one, in fact, thought

2447
02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:27,720
initially, that the Patriot Act
had authorized this kind of bulk

2448
02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:30,990
collection brought as it was,
but once that was underway, and

2449
02:27:30,990 --> 02:27:34,350
had been going on for a while,
the court was able to be sort of

2450
02:27:34,380 --> 02:27:37,800
brought around into signing off
on that, even though no one had

2451
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:40,920
initially imagined it was
something that was within their

2452
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:41,790
power to authorize.

2453
02:27:42,630 --> 02:27:47,580
Oh, really. So he brings up this
capture theory, which I thought

2454
02:27:47,580 --> 02:27:51,660
explains to me at least why when
you hear Mike Rogers or you hear

2455
02:27:51,660 --> 02:27:54,390
Feinstein, the head of these
committees, these intelligence

2456
02:27:54,420 --> 02:27:57,630
oversight committees, they don't
talk like anyone who's doing

2457
02:27:57,630 --> 02:28:03,210
oversight, they literally lorded
over everybody else, Rogers in

2458
02:28:03,210 --> 02:28:06,990
particular, and they just, they
think they think they're working

2459
02:28:06,990 --> 02:28:11,640
for the CIA. They're there they
think that oh, I'm a spy. I know

2460
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:15,930
all this cool stuff. And Rogers
is the worst example of this and

2461
02:28:15,930 --> 02:28:18,360
his other buddy the other guy is
on the committee and they come

2462
02:28:18,360 --> 02:28:21,960
out and Lord over we know what's
going on. We've heard this stuff

2463
02:28:21,960 --> 02:28:26,160
behind closed doors, take our
word for it. And this is they

2464
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:29,520
have been captured by the
intelligence community they

2465
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:33,540
should all be fired from this
from the intelligence oversight

2466
02:28:33,540 --> 02:28:36,780
committees and they should put
new people in who who are not

2467
02:28:36,780 --> 02:28:39,780
captured until at least do some
real oversight. This is

2468
02:28:39,780 --> 02:28:43,410
terrible, I guess. Yeah, we
should do it we'd be great.

2469
02:28:43,410 --> 02:28:46,320
Feinstein is a perfect example
everything she said in that

2470
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:50,040
little gossipy thing was
somebody told her and secret and

2471
02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:52,890
she's just kind of revealing
some of it you know, the two

2472
02:28:52,890 --> 02:28:57,780
cars and all the rest of who
would know this Yeah. Anyway, I

2473
02:28:57,780 --> 02:28:59,550
find these people to be disgust

2474
02:28:59,550 --> 02:29:02,250
abhorrent I think is the word
you're looking for is gonna say

2475
02:29:02,250 --> 02:29:05,820
that I think the word abhorrent
is a good word and valid in this

2476
02:29:05,820 --> 02:29:09,900
case. I need to switch some
gears now. And I would like you

2477
02:29:09,900 --> 02:29:12,990
to acknowledge the fact that I
have been very good at not

2478
02:29:12,990 --> 02:29:14,880
starting off every sentence with
so

2479
02:29:16,470 --> 02:29:19,980
you've been great at it, but you
should not acknowledge that I

2480
02:29:19,980 --> 02:29:23,610
was about to say amazing once in
the show, and I said astounding.

2481
02:29:23,640 --> 02:29:26,580
Yes. But you also have been
saying so quite a bit.

2482
02:29:28,530 --> 02:29:29,610
It's on my secondary.

2483
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:34,200
I tried this in my daily life.
It's extremely difficult.

2484
02:29:34,260 --> 02:29:36,060
It is ringing the bell if you
hear me saying

2485
02:29:36,090 --> 02:29:39,360
Oh, please. We can't have the
cannot call. It's called no

2486
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:45,870
agenda, not the bell show. Quick
move over to Europe. I just need

2487
02:29:45,870 --> 02:29:50,370
to get some international news
in here and then maybe if you're

2488
02:29:50,370 --> 02:29:54,390
interested we can talk about
some local Texas news. In in

2489
02:29:54,390 --> 02:29:57,870
Euro land couple of things going
on. First of all, the Germans

2490
02:29:57,870 --> 02:30:01,950
are now saying well, you know
According to the ESM, which is

2491
02:30:01,950 --> 02:30:05,280
this European Stability
Mechanism, which I was all on

2492
02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:08,490
for months and months and
months, and then they passed it

2493
02:30:08,490 --> 02:30:14,070
two years early. They expect any
bank bailout in Germany will

2494
02:30:14,070 --> 02:30:19,320
also require at least an 8% tax
on anyone who has their money in

2495
02:30:19,320 --> 02:30:23,430
the German bank. I think yeah, I
think it's it's quite astounding

2496
02:30:23,430 --> 02:30:27,780
news. Wow. Yeah. And then so
they're really making a big deal

2497
02:30:27,780 --> 02:30:33,570
out of this you know, you know,
the bond the the boondocks

2498
02:30:33,570 --> 02:30:39,030
constantly a bank, Bala Germany
requires compulsory levy of 8%.

2499
02:30:39,660 --> 02:30:45,330
And this is being discussed in
the at the Bundesbank. And it

2500
02:30:45,330 --> 02:30:50,430
but it turns out, it's all part
of the ESM, which is kind of

2501
02:30:50,430 --> 02:30:52,530
what we were saying. And this
was rushed through and I was

2502
02:30:52,530 --> 02:30:54,330
like, oh, yeah, great, great,
great. It'll save everything,

2503
02:30:54,330 --> 02:30:57,960
but it's coming out of the
slaves, very own pockets. And so

2504
02:30:57,960 --> 02:31:03,690
I think we can expect I said it,
I think we can expect to see

2505
02:31:03,690 --> 02:31:07,620
this happen very soon. Since
they are talking about it more

2506
02:31:07,620 --> 02:31:12,870
and more. Along with that comes
a setup interview. Very funny.

2507
02:31:12,870 --> 02:31:16,170
Haiku Herman the pred, the
outgoing president of the United

2508
02:31:16,170 --> 02:31:20,250
States of Europe, and haiku.
Herman, this is when he was at

2509
02:31:20,250 --> 02:31:28,200
the g8. And he had a camera crew
with a blonde who is asking fake

2510
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:32,820
questions by fake citizens of
Europe, only for him to tell you

2511
02:31:32,820 --> 02:31:36,210
exactly what's going to happen.
Now. They've been talking about

2512
02:31:36,210 --> 02:31:40,020
this tax avoidance that people
are stealing from their fellow

2513
02:31:40,020 --> 02:31:45,450
European citizens by not paying
tax. In this particular one

2514
02:31:45,450 --> 02:31:48,450
minute interview where the Haiku
Herman answers the question,

2515
02:31:48,780 --> 02:31:51,960
he's really telling you that
they that the European

2516
02:31:52,590 --> 02:31:56,370
government in Brussels is going
to know everything about your

2517
02:31:56,370 --> 02:32:00,630
money, where it comes from. And
this is about total control of

2518
02:32:00,630 --> 02:32:03,960
you as an individual. Hello,
Europe. Mr. President, we

2519
02:32:03,960 --> 02:32:08,340
have a question from Johan who
is asking how do you plan to

2520
02:32:08,340 --> 02:32:10,380
tackle tax fraud and tax havens?

2521
02:32:10,410 --> 02:32:15,360
Sounds like a question Johan,
would ask doesn't have all the

2522
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:18,060
questions I could ask the
president of Europe that would

2523
02:32:18,060 --> 02:32:20,520
be Hey, how you gonna tackle
that. But first

2524
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:25,200
and foremost, this is a national
competence. And we see big

2525
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:30,750
difference inside the Union on
the results of the fight against

2526
02:32:30,750 --> 02:32:34,530
tax fraud and tax avoidance.
When you compare the so called

2527
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:40,560
black markets, you'll see a huge
divergence in the union, some

2528
02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:44,160
have highly developed, black
economies have parts of the

2529
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:49,080
economy are black, and oldest
haven't that at all, or mostly

2530
02:32:49,110 --> 02:32:54,630
not nearly adult. So the
effectiveness of tax authorities

2531
02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:57,780
is absolutely key and to
strengthen tax authorities to

2532
02:32:57,780 --> 02:33:01,650
make them more effective to
thank and also the legislation

2533
02:33:01,650 --> 02:33:05,820
is is absolutely key in the in
the fight against tax fraud and

2534
02:33:05,820 --> 02:33:11,130
tax avoidance. Now, at the Union
level, there we decided on an

2535
02:33:11,130 --> 02:33:15,510
automatic exchange of
information on savings first,

2536
02:33:15,810 --> 02:33:20,430
and that we are already working
on this automatic change since

2537
02:33:20,460 --> 02:33:26,700
2005. And now, we are broadening
the scope to all kinds of

2538
02:33:26,700 --> 02:33:30,600
incomes, also incomes of
employment, for instance,

2539
02:33:30,600 --> 02:33:35,370
capital gains, royalties,
dividends, and hopefully we will

2540
02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:38,820
have that kind of automatic
exchange of information starting

2541
02:33:38,820 --> 02:33:43,740
from 1015. So we are not
touching upon the tax levels is

2542
02:33:43,740 --> 02:33:47,040
not an exercise in tax
harmonization. It is the

2543
02:33:47,070 --> 02:33:51,300
automatic exchange of
information between the

2544
02:33:51,300 --> 02:33:51,960
countries.

2545
02:33:52,380 --> 02:33:56,610
And of course, the removal of
cash from the equation because

2546
02:33:56,610 --> 02:33:59,670
that's how you get the black
markets as he was saying this is

2547
02:33:59,670 --> 02:34:01,680
a total clampdown on Europe
total.

2548
02:34:01,710 --> 02:34:04,740
Oh, yeah. Well, you know, the
thing is that the solution to

2549
02:34:04,740 --> 02:34:08,610
tax fraud, which is illegal and
tax avoidance, which really

2550
02:34:08,610 --> 02:34:12,240
isn't, is simple and I don't
understand why they go through

2551
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:14,520
all this trouble when they can
solve the problem quite quickly

2552
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:15,420
and quite easily

2553
02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:17,880
by killing everybody.

2554
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:20,040
Wealth Tax,

2555
02:34:20,310 --> 02:34:24,570
wealth tax. Yeah, yeah, that's
it baby. That's the ticket.

2556
02:34:25,260 --> 02:34:29,490
Wealth. That's what they do in
Switzerland. Wealth Tax, you tax

2557
02:34:29,490 --> 02:34:32,190
the wealth, you don't tax the
income. The income is crazy to

2558
02:34:32,190 --> 02:34:35,040
tax people are trying to get
wealthy so they can tag be

2559
02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:38,820
taxed. But it's like this, like
the 8% across the board, that's

2560
02:34:38,820 --> 02:34:42,210
no good. It should be a wealth
tax should be your total wealth

2561
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:45,060
should be taxed a certain
amount, not that much. And it

2562
02:34:45,060 --> 02:34:47,430
will until you make a couple
million dollars a year your

2563
02:34:47,430 --> 02:34:51,780
taxes will actually go down.
super wealthy, sitting on their

2564
02:34:51,780 --> 02:34:52,080
money.

2565
02:34:52,590 --> 02:34:55,260
And you just gonna keep saying
this until you're dead until I'm

2566
02:34:55,260 --> 02:34:57,270
dead too. We're all dead because
it's never gonna happen. They're

2567
02:34:57,270 --> 02:35:00,300
gonna do this. They want to
steal your money. They want to

2568
02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:03,780
steal your money. I interested
in fairness, there is

2569
02:35:03,780 --> 02:35:07,230
that have you been listening to
all this cool stuff? You know,

2570
02:35:07,230 --> 02:35:09,570
you've got a lot of good clips
today I have to say, Well, I

2571
02:35:09,570 --> 02:35:12,900
have a little more. Well, I want
to just take a break here and

2572
02:35:12,900 --> 02:35:16,200
show you the unfortunate
situation that I was in, because

2573
02:35:16,200 --> 02:35:19,860
I ended up picking up some clips
that are just dreadful,

2574
02:35:19,890 --> 02:35:24,150
horrible. And let's not let's
not play them. Let's not have to

2575
02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:27,030
play the show. You know what,
what agony have gone? No, no,

2576
02:35:27,510 --> 02:35:27,930
no, come

2577
02:35:27,930 --> 02:35:29,490
on, not the spinning mummy.

2578
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:35,070
No, not that. That's later. The
classic later. The classic Fox

2579
02:35:35,070 --> 02:35:36,840
name calling clip.

2580
02:35:37,470 --> 02:35:40,560
Listen to on Fox fears you are
judicially challenged and you're

2581
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:43,440
one of the Stooges of the left.
That will always be there to

2582
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:46,560
excuse away criminal behavior.
You suffer from Bob Beck

2583
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:50,190
colitis, which is incurable,
fatal condition of liberalism

2584
02:35:50,340 --> 02:35:53,910
that has caused people like Eric
Holder to be the concept, Larry

2585
02:35:53,940 --> 02:35:57,750
for President Barack Hussein
Obama signed the petition Tamra

2586
02:35:57,930 --> 02:36:00,990
to call for the resignation of
the chief law enforcement

2587
02:36:00,990 --> 02:36:03,390
officer of this nation because
he lied under oath when he

2588
02:36:03,390 --> 02:36:06,450
criminalize journalism. And you
know, he did it but you refuse

2589
02:36:06,450 --> 02:36:07,770
to do what's right. But I

2590
02:36:07,770 --> 02:36:10,230
really hope that when you speak
to a judge, you don't point your

2591
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:13,350
finger in the person's face the
entire time by making your point

2592
02:36:13,350 --> 02:36:18,030
or her does not whose face right
now, because I'm telling you to

2593
02:36:18,030 --> 02:36:19,980
shut up. But anyway,

2594
02:36:20,580 --> 02:36:23,130
I mean, you shut up know your
role and shut your mouth. My

2595
02:36:23,130 --> 02:36:24,090
role as a woman.

2596
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:31,140
You're gonna know, I'm not gonna
cry. Shake hands and make

2597
02:36:31,140 --> 02:36:36,930
friends. I don't shake trolls.
Oh, see, takes the place of

2598
02:36:36,930 --> 02:36:38,100
where you started.

2599
02:36:40,620 --> 02:36:43,140
To fall back on I think you're
taking lessons from Michelle

2600
02:36:43,140 --> 02:36:45,300
Malkin on how to call for a
ride. All right.

2601
02:36:45,630 --> 02:36:48,570
Okay. Don't ever do that to me
again. And I am putting my

2602
02:36:48,570 --> 02:36:52,770
finger in your face. Don't ever
make me listen to that again.

2603
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:56,100
That is that is just a whole
minute and three seconds of my

2604
02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:57,570
life wasted a yeah,

2605
02:36:57,570 --> 02:37:00,420
we've heard that bit before. I
know. I know. I try. Come on.

2606
02:37:00,720 --> 02:37:05,280
This is that kind of thing that
this is Fox? Because they have

2607
02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:07,380
to go after Snowden.

2608
02:37:07,439 --> 02:37:10,379
Let me deconstruct something for
you. I'm done. I'm so done with

2609
02:37:10,379 --> 02:37:15,269
Snowden. I'm so done with it.
Look, bottom line. The

2610
02:37:15,269 --> 02:37:18,809
government is spying on your
ass. You're a slave Shut up. Now

2611
02:37:18,809 --> 02:37:21,719
let me let's just laugh about
some other things. Because

2612
02:37:21,749 --> 02:37:29,069
Because you I can tell you're
very very annoyed by this. By

2613
02:37:29,069 --> 02:37:32,639
this total lack of information
you grew up in by the coverage

2614
02:37:32,759 --> 02:37:35,219
with the coverage. You grew up
in a different era with

2615
02:37:35,219 --> 02:37:37,979
different type of news men,
because I think there was all

2616
02:37:37,979 --> 02:37:40,259
men at the time. And you're very
annoyed by this lack of

2617
02:37:40,259 --> 02:37:42,539
coverage, but you can't make up
for it.

2618
02:37:43,350 --> 02:37:46,320
I can make up for it with this
clip to show you the how clever

2619
02:37:46,380 --> 02:37:49,260
the how clamped down this is.
And by the way, the clip you're

2620
02:37:49,260 --> 02:37:54,690
going to listen to this, this
this this item this product

2621
02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:59,100
ShotSpotter this product was in
Boston when all was great when

2622
02:37:59,100 --> 02:38:01,620
all the craziness was coming
about nobody ever said can we

2623
02:38:01,620 --> 02:38:04,500
look at the ShotSpotter data,
because we could have solved

2624
02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:07,200
some very interesting answers
some very interesting questions

2625
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,240
about these two guys running
around.

2626
02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:18,780
Every day, gun violence is
taking a massive emotional and

2627
02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:22,860
economic toll on communities all
over the world. public safety

2628
02:38:22,860 --> 02:38:27,270
agencies are doing their best,
but resources are shrinking. In

2629
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:31,260
some communities, fewer than 25%
of gunshot incidents are

2630
02:38:31,260 --> 02:38:35,400
recorded. These communities
aren't just under threat.

2631
02:38:35,880 --> 02:38:40,470
They're losing hope. It's time
to fight back. With a proven

2632
02:38:40,470 --> 02:38:44,100
force multiplier that's
operationally effective and cost

2633
02:38:44,100 --> 02:38:48,150
effective. It's time to fight
back with ShotSpotter

2634
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:52,200
ShotSpotter is the critical
solution agencies need to

2635
02:38:52,200 --> 02:38:58,440
pinpoint every gunfire incident
even when no one calls to

2636
02:38:58,440 --> 02:39:03,180
respond safely and quickly. And
to create real deterrence

2637
02:39:03,180 --> 02:39:07,590
against illegal gunfire.
ShotSpotter is the critical

2638
02:39:07,590 --> 02:39:12,870
first step in stopping gun
violence. ShotSpotter enhances

2639
02:39:12,870 --> 02:39:16,110
every aspect of law enforcement
operations providing

2640
02:39:16,290 --> 02:39:20,310
unprecedented situational
awareness for faster and safer

2641
02:39:20,310 --> 02:39:21,000
response.

2642
02:39:21,090 --> 02:39:22,470
Are they sending us a check?

2643
02:39:23,790 --> 02:39:27,000
Say should you can play the
whole thing or not? But the

2644
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:31,500
point is, is that unbeknownst to
most people this says the system

2645
02:39:31,500 --> 02:39:35,490
is in almost every major city is
in Oakland is in San Francisco.

2646
02:39:35,490 --> 02:39:36,570
It's all over the place.

2647
02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:40,830
I need to ask you a question. I
one of my military contacts sent

2648
02:39:40,830 --> 02:39:46,500
me a link about this particular
product with the and the link

2649
02:39:46,500 --> 02:39:50,220
was directly to the page about
all the all the cities that this

2650
02:39:50,220 --> 02:39:56,190
is in Where did you get this
from and why? Because I think

2651
02:39:56,190 --> 02:39:58,830
this there's something there's
someone's trying to communicate

2652
02:39:58,830 --> 02:40:02,550
something to me And I looked at
this I saw this I saw this

2653
02:40:02,550 --> 02:40:06,840
commercial and I'm like, Okay,
why is why is my back

2654
02:40:06,870 --> 02:40:09,840
all I know is that this would
have did the Boston situation,

2655
02:40:10,140 --> 02:40:13,710
this ShotSpotter data would have
told us what was really going on

2656
02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:17,880
with that bullcrap that that
theater that they were playing

2657
02:40:17,880 --> 02:40:20,880
where they apparently took the
one brother and they brought him

2658
02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:23,550
down and there was holding him
down and then the other brother

2659
02:40:23,700 --> 02:40:26,400
while the guy was standing right
there with a gun this is the way

2660
02:40:26,400 --> 02:40:31,500
the story was told. ran him over
and they didn't shoot the guy in

2661
02:40:31,500 --> 02:40:32,310
the car and where did

2662
02:40:32,310 --> 02:40:34,890
you get the link? Where did you
find out about this product?

2663
02:40:35,460 --> 02:40:37,560
I probably from the same guy
sent you that the links online I

2664
02:40:37,560 --> 02:40:40,890
went through all of them. I was
fascinated by this thing because

2665
02:40:40,890 --> 02:40:45,750
it's a little it's a little box
with a it's got a recorder or

2666
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:48,750
some sort of triangulation
system for that whole city. It's

2667
02:40:48,750 --> 02:40:49,050
been around a

2668
02:40:49,350 --> 02:40:52,320
long time. It also just
basically listens to everything

2669
02:40:52,320 --> 02:40:56,190
that's going on. It's not just
for shots. I mean, this

2670
02:40:57,090 --> 02:41:00,690
is I don't think you can pick up
a guy talking.

2671
02:41:01,830 --> 02:41:06,780
No, now that's impossible. Sure.
I got Mickey got a new iPhone.

2672
02:41:07,500 --> 02:41:10,830
Because we got the upgrade from
AT and T for being such a loyal

2673
02:41:10,830 --> 02:41:14,970
customer. Yeah, so I went to the
Apple store that's why we also

2674
02:41:14,970 --> 02:41:19,710
the Genius Bar this crap. And so
now installed on your iPhone is

2675
02:41:20,190 --> 02:41:24,960
giant voice system. To the
President the President can talk

2676
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:30,210
to your iPhone through Yes. So
it pre installed you get Amber

2677
02:41:30,210 --> 02:41:34,440
Alerts and an emergency alerts.
And you can turn those off but

2678
02:41:34,440 --> 02:41:38,490
you can't turn off the can the
the Presidential alerts. Yes,

2679
02:41:38,670 --> 02:41:42,420
at&t, and they're going to do it
on all phones. That now the

2680
02:41:42,420 --> 02:41:45,150
president can get essentially
press a button and talk to all

2681
02:41:45,150 --> 02:41:50,400
of you on his on your phone.
Wow, yeah, take that.

2682
02:41:50,400 --> 02:41:55,620
ShotSpotter Wow, man. Yeah, this
is

2683
02:41:55,620 --> 02:41:56,340
a scandal.

2684
02:41:57,240 --> 02:42:00,750
Please. Have you been following
this Paula Dean thing? Because I

2685
02:42:00,750 --> 02:42:02,730
certainly wasn't. Uh, yeah,

2686
02:42:02,730 --> 02:42:05,820
I was kind of offhandedly
following it, but I don't care

2687
02:42:05,820 --> 02:42:08,850
because she's just another
celebrity chef on the Food

2688
02:42:08,850 --> 02:42:11,790
Network. It seems like a lot of
publicity for them. And I didn't

2689
02:42:12,780 --> 02:42:13,290
want to bring it

2690
02:42:13,350 --> 02:42:18,060
out interesting. Because that's
what I thought until one of a

2691
02:42:18,060 --> 02:42:20,850
very insistent producer was like
now you got to look at this

2692
02:42:20,850 --> 02:42:24,090
thing. You got to look at this
thing. Like did it and here's

2693
02:42:24,150 --> 02:42:30,990
what he basically was saying was
Did you realize that the so

2694
02:42:30,990 --> 02:42:34,950
called the she used the N word
which we can't use in America

2695
02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:38,550
but so somewhere she said
nigger, I love having a podcast

2696
02:42:38,550 --> 02:42:41,880
because you can say that and not
get fired. It's just a fucking

2697
02:42:41,880 --> 02:42:47,370
word people in context it's okay
to say this. And but she said

2698
02:42:47,370 --> 02:42:51,840
this like 15 years ago. This is
not like she's walking around

2699
02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:55,230
the Food Network office go hey,
nigga, get me this nigga. It's

2700
02:42:55,230 --> 02:42:59,610
not like what happened. So why
is she being railroaded? That

2701
02:42:59,610 --> 02:43:02,760
was basically the question my
producer put to me. Okay, and

2702
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:05,850
I'm like, Okay, and so you go
back and look and she was in the

2703
02:43:05,850 --> 02:43:10,620
news around February. Why was
she in the news is in February

2704
02:43:10,620 --> 02:43:11,400
Do you recall

2705
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:13,500
now but you're gonna tell me

2706
02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:18,690
she had type two diabetes. And
yeah, I remember that right. And

2707
02:43:18,690 --> 02:43:26,880
then from that she became the
voice of Victoza and Victoza is

2708
02:43:27,060 --> 02:43:33,420
a is from Novartis. It is a
diabetes drug. And she became

2709
02:43:33,450 --> 02:43:37,470
along with their sons I think
she became the spokesperson for

2710
02:43:37,470 --> 02:43:41,730
this drug and you can see it at
the voices of Victoza and she's

2711
02:43:41,730 --> 02:43:46,620
all over this thing all over the
place. And, and so I'm like

2712
02:43:46,620 --> 02:43:50,310
okay, that's might be
interesting. And then here's the

2713
02:43:50,310 --> 02:43:56,820
news from this from June 25.
Headline Victoza in its

2714
02:43:56,820 --> 02:44:03,030
crosshairs, Eli Lilly Prime's
for marketing duel. As the dust

2715
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:05,700
settles from the American
Diabetes Association meeting

2716
02:44:05,700 --> 02:44:09,900
this week, a marketing battle is
brewing data presented at the

2717
02:44:09,900 --> 02:44:13,920
big con fab suggested that Eli
Lilly is experimental GLP one

2718
02:44:13,920 --> 02:44:19,080
analog delay magnitude is
largely on par efficacy wise

2719
02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:23,940
with some of its would be
competition. There is a huge

2720
02:44:23,940 --> 02:44:27,690
marketing war underway. And we
know we know what these drugs

2721
02:44:27,690 --> 02:44:30,720
are diet. Are you kidding me
type two diabetes, we know that

2722
02:44:30,750 --> 02:44:36,990
the Lipitor even out of out of
patent the revenues from Lipitor

2723
02:44:37,020 --> 02:44:41,580
is $2 billion more than the
entire music industry, one drug,

2724
02:44:41,790 --> 02:44:46,440
so type two diabetes and then I
find this little gem from the

2725
02:44:46,440 --> 02:44:47,460
Wall Street Journal he

2726
02:44:47,460 --> 02:44:49,740
Hawkins of The Wall Street
Journal the Food Network

2727
02:44:49,740 --> 02:44:53,160
announcing that it will not be
renewing the contract of Food

2728
02:44:53,160 --> 02:44:56,190
Network Star Paula Dean at the
end of this month following

2729
02:44:56,190 --> 02:44:59,400
Dean's recent admission in a
court deposition that she's

2730
02:44:59,400 --> 02:45:02,640
used, raised She'll epithets and
told socially inappropriate

2731
02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:06,090
jokes in her past. The question
now is well, Novo Nordisk a

2732
02:45:06,090 --> 02:45:09,390
pharmaceutical company that uses
Dean to endorse its type two

2733
02:45:09,390 --> 02:45:12,960
diabetes drug be next. It
doesn't look good for De Novo

2734
02:45:12,960 --> 02:45:15,780
Nordisk has put a lot of
resources into corporate

2735
02:45:15,780 --> 02:45:19,470
diversity and sponsoring events
that bring diabetes testing and

2736
02:45:19,470 --> 02:45:23,430
awareness to events that target
African Americans and other

2737
02:45:23,430 --> 02:45:26,280
racial minorities who are
disproportionately impacted by

2738
02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:27,360
type two diabetes

2739
02:45:27,540 --> 02:45:31,830
is obvious. If you want to kill
your competition, take the

2740
02:45:31,830 --> 02:45:35,820
spokesperson, and you're going
and your market is black people,

2741
02:45:35,850 --> 02:45:41,340
African Americans, yeah, then go
after your spokesperson. Racist.

2742
02:45:41,580 --> 02:45:45,180
So did you were you stunned by
this revelation?

2743
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:47,460
I'm stunned that no one's put it
together.

2744
02:45:47,910 --> 02:45:53,010
Okay. Well, I did. As we've done
an entire show today. pointed

2745
02:45:53,010 --> 02:45:56,910
out questions aren't asked, the
conclusions aren't drawn, the

2746
02:45:56,910 --> 02:45:59,820
obvious is ignored. And now you
just bring another one.

2747
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:03,450
And then I'd like to like to
finally wind up from my end, and

2748
02:46:03,450 --> 02:46:08,790
I got clips. I got I just got
one thing to say just want to

2749
02:46:08,790 --> 02:46:18,660
finalize this. When when we
started podcasting, it truly is

2750
02:46:18,660 --> 02:46:21,630
a revolutionary thing, even
though it's not it's not all

2751
02:46:21,630 --> 02:46:25,800
that complicated. And in these
days is getting so much easier.

2752
02:46:25,800 --> 02:46:30,030
You just you can basically throw
an mp3 file in an email. I mean,

2753
02:46:30,030 --> 02:46:34,170
when this started in 2004, it
took hours to download stuff had

2754
02:46:34,170 --> 02:46:37,800
always on, you know, computing,
but nothing was fast. And the

2755
02:46:37,800 --> 02:46:40,680
world has changed so
dramatically. There is a group

2756
02:46:40,680 --> 02:46:44,580
of people I am convinced we are
serving that we are serving

2757
02:46:44,580 --> 02:46:48,420
better than the entire
mainstream publishing industry.

2758
02:46:49,530 --> 02:46:54,180
And in particular, because we
deliver this information for

2759
02:46:54,180 --> 02:47:01,080
free, no charge. If Marshalls no
commercials, if you find that

2760
02:47:01,080 --> 02:47:03,750
there's some value in the
program, we'd love to receive

2761
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:07,620
something back. That can be
money is very important, because

2762
02:47:07,650 --> 02:47:10,920
we have no other jobs. And John,
you seem to be getting

2763
02:47:10,950 --> 02:47:13,500
increasingly less work. You're
getting fired from every every

2764
02:47:13,500 --> 02:47:14,370
column you're writing.

2765
02:47:17,310 --> 02:47:19,470
Is Near ageism.

2766
02:47:20,130 --> 02:47:23,280
Yes, of course. It's ageism.
It's just an observation. But

2767
02:47:23,280 --> 02:47:27,390
yes. So this is what we do. I
have no other plans. Yeah, you

2768
02:47:27,390 --> 02:47:30,750
know, we'll try and put a
podcast device together or some,

2769
02:47:30,960 --> 02:47:34,590
you know, prepper as Dr. Hamlin,
but there's always something to

2770
02:47:34,590 --> 02:47:37,620
do. But it's, I think the days
of, hey, I made a million bucks.

2771
02:47:37,650 --> 02:47:40,860
That's over. That's and that's
not happening anymore. I will be

2772
02:47:40,860 --> 02:47:46,560
doing this until I fall down.
I'm pretty sure of it. I had no

2773
02:47:46,560 --> 02:47:52,620
idea but there is in Marrakech
right now, a huge conference, a

2774
02:47:52,620 --> 02:47:56,850
douchebag conference, the
diplomatic conference to

2775
02:47:56,850 --> 02:48:00,900
conclude a treaty to facilitate
access to published works by

2776
02:48:00,900 --> 02:48:05,160
visually impaired persons and
persons with print disabilities,

2777
02:48:05,370 --> 02:48:09,720
Stevie Wonder, has come out with
a little video. This has been

2778
02:48:09,720 --> 02:48:14,490
going on for decades, decades to
get this done and what it is it

2779
02:48:14,490 --> 02:48:17,880
should be evident, but I'll let
him talk for a second here.

2780
02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:21,660
19. I spoke to Francis Kerry who
gave me an update on your

2781
02:48:21,660 --> 02:48:25,980
negotiations. I was pleased to
hear that you're working very

2782
02:48:25,980 --> 02:48:28,980
hard and that every one is
committed to leaving Marrakech

2783
02:48:29,220 --> 02:48:33,600
with an agreement. This is music
to my ears. And you all know how

2784
02:48:33,600 --> 02:48:37,770
much I love mixing music. I
promised Francis that I would

2785
02:48:37,770 --> 02:48:41,340
come to America for a special
celebration. If a treaty that

2786
02:48:41,340 --> 02:48:44,910
meets the expectations of the
world's blind and visually

2787
02:48:44,910 --> 02:48:48,300
impaired is concluded. Okay, so

2788
02:48:48,300 --> 02:48:50,700
he goes on for a bit. And of
course the end he always sees

2789
02:48:50,700 --> 02:48:52,890
things signed, sealed,
delivered. I'm yours. Stevie

2790
02:48:52,890 --> 02:48:56,130
Wonder is saying if you guys get
this deal together, I will come

2791
02:48:56,130 --> 02:48:58,380
to Marrakech, I'll do a free
concert for you. I'll do

2792
02:48:58,380 --> 02:49:02,640
whatever it takes a blow you
please because what is happening

2793
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:08,250
is the publishers of the world
refuse, refuse to publish 90

2794
02:49:08,250 --> 02:49:11,490
More than According to the
documents more than 95% of all

2795
02:49:11,490 --> 02:49:15,780
published works are not
published in print challenged,

2796
02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:19,320
or what have they call it
formats, because they're afraid

2797
02:49:19,620 --> 02:49:23,190
that the Gouki IDE motherfuckers
are going to steal their work

2798
02:49:23,190 --> 02:49:24,990
steal their copyrights.

2799
02:49:25,740 --> 02:49:28,410
How sad is it? What is that what

2800
02:49:28,410 --> 02:49:30,720
it says? It says Gouki IDE
motherfuckers. Right.

2801
02:49:32,010 --> 02:49:35,610
Your profanity? Yes, it says
that they're afraid that it's

2802
02:49:35,610 --> 02:49:38,610
going to be ripped off mindful
of the challenges that are pre

2803
02:49:38,640 --> 02:49:41,280
alized. And let me get the logic
straight. Because I want to ask

2804
02:49:41,280 --> 02:49:46,500
a simple question. You don't
have a version for the blind

2805
02:49:46,620 --> 02:49:50,220
because if the blind get a
version, which they can't,

2806
02:49:50,250 --> 02:49:53,250
they're not buying him anything
now so there's no money being

2807
02:49:53,250 --> 02:49:56,430
lost in this deal. And if they
start passing it around amongst

2808
02:49:56,430 --> 02:49:59,970
themselves the the blind version
of braille version or a year

2809
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,340
After the spoken word version,
they're going to just pass it

2810
02:50:02,340 --> 02:50:04,530
around the cells are going to
steal it. But there's they're

2811
02:50:04,530 --> 02:50:07,380
not buying it now it's or what
are they stealing?

2812
02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:11,970
It's the passing it around. And
the audio versions that these

2813
02:50:11,970 --> 02:50:17,970
guys are so fearful of. So they
are going to make official,

2814
02:50:18,600 --> 02:50:22,770
nonprofit organizations who will
be sanctioned, who will be able

2815
02:50:22,770 --> 02:50:27,510
to make this material available.
There has to be all kinds of

2816
02:50:27,510 --> 02:50:33,000
DRM. They're so afraid that they
can't sell more than one copy

2817
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:35,790
because you know, these blind
people turns out they like

2818
02:50:35,820 --> 02:50:39,090
hanging out in groups. You know,
these fuckers Can you believe

2819
02:50:39,090 --> 02:50:41,940
them? They hang out in groups,
and they trade stuff amongst

2820
02:50:41,940 --> 02:50:46,350
themselves. They so how are we
going to sell individual copies

2821
02:50:46,350 --> 02:50:49,560
to all of them? We can't make
enough money on them. That is

2822
02:50:49,560 --> 02:50:53,970
what that is. Exactly. I have
the documents here. It would it

2823
02:50:53,970 --> 02:50:56,070
blew my fucking mind. John

2824
02:50:56,460 --> 02:50:59,220
apparently says you're like a
truck driver.

2825
02:50:59,220 --> 02:51:01,590
It's the Tourette's. It's the
Tourette's. It's really the

2826
02:51:01,590 --> 02:51:08,490
Tourette's. It just blew me
away. And I've highlighted this

2827
02:51:08,490 --> 02:51:11,910
document, you can look at it in
the in the show notes under the

2828
02:51:11,910 --> 02:51:14,970
war on the blind. when
appropriate.

2829
02:51:15,599 --> 02:51:16,799
And right. Yeah.

2830
02:51:16,859 --> 02:51:20,639
And I was actually I have to be
honest, I was looking at it

2831
02:51:20,639 --> 02:51:23,129
like, Wait, is there an
opportunity for us? Can we do

2832
02:51:23,129 --> 02:51:26,819
like audio book versions of
stuff and get a special deal?

2833
02:51:26,819 --> 02:51:29,399
And can we do something and then
I'm like, What am I talking

2834
02:51:29,399 --> 02:51:35,129
about? We do this service,
specifically for the visually

2835
02:51:35,129 --> 02:51:40,919
impaired, blind gooey eyed
people. Hello, we love y'all. We

2836
02:51:40,949 --> 02:51:43,559
this is a fantastic service for
them.

2837
02:51:43,980 --> 02:51:47,460
But you're talking about the no
agenda podcast? Yes. Yes.

2838
02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:52,320
It's the best the best service.
I mean, can you imagine where

2839
02:51:52,320 --> 02:51:55,740
you finally get you want to get
to get like some some history

2840
02:51:55,740 --> 02:52:00,840
book? in Braille? Great. Yeah,
that'll be factual. That'll be

2841
02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:04,770
true. We're gonna get the New
York Times and Braille. Oh, I

2842
02:52:04,770 --> 02:52:09,990
bet yeah. How sad is it that our
fellow human haimo Homo sapiens,

2843
02:52:10,500 --> 02:52:17,910
who cannot get true information
in a topical accessible manner.

2844
02:52:19,380 --> 02:52:23,340
So I welcome you and if you know
anyone who was blind, or print

2845
02:52:23,340 --> 02:52:26,310
challenged or whatever all the
politically correct words are

2846
02:52:26,970 --> 02:52:30,090
let's turn them on to the no
agenda podcast. This is a huge

2847
02:52:30,090 --> 02:52:33,960
market we can go after. I think
we've already got a good piece

2848
02:52:33,960 --> 02:52:36,780
of it. I'm sure we have some of
it but this needs to be shared

2849
02:52:36,840 --> 02:52:39,870
because you're being screwed
people. There are a bunch of

2850
02:52:39,870 --> 02:52:44,310
elitist pricks in Marrakech and
nice little nice little

2851
02:52:44,310 --> 02:52:48,870
conference. I got an idea let's
do a conference in Marrakech and

2852
02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:49,320
that'll keep

2853
02:52:49,320 --> 02:52:53,580
them hoi polloi away, right.
Well, that it's not that you

2854
02:52:53,580 --> 02:52:55,920
mentioned that this great
service we're doing I think it's

2855
02:52:55,920 --> 02:53:01,050
about time we played the clip,
spinning mummy, mummy.

2856
02:53:04,470 --> 02:53:09,060
What you're seeing has yet to be
explained. This ancient Egyptian

2857
02:53:09,060 --> 02:53:12,990
statue appears to be spinning on
its own, as seen in time lapse

2858
02:53:12,990 --> 02:53:14,790
footage from the Manchester
Museum.

2859
02:53:23,700 --> 02:53:26,910
The nearly 4000 year old statue
has been part of the museum's

2860
02:53:26,910 --> 02:53:31,050
collection for 80 years and has
never moved. Until recently.

2861
02:53:31,710 --> 02:53:34,830
Ancient Egyptians believed this
type of statuette could act as a

2862
02:53:34,830 --> 02:53:38,580
vessel for spirits. But the
exhibits curator thinks even the

2863
02:53:38,580 --> 02:53:41,160
ancient Egyptians would have
been surprised by the strange

2864
02:53:41,160 --> 02:53:44,730
occurrence. Some logical
explanations could be vibrations

2865
02:53:44,730 --> 02:53:48,570
from cars outside or foot
traffic in the museum. But that

2866
02:53:48,570 --> 02:53:54,900
doesn't explain why it moves in
a perfect circle. Whatever the

2867
02:53:54,900 --> 02:53:58,050
answer, the phenomenon is sure
to draw more visitors to the

2868
02:53:58,050 --> 02:53:58,680
exhibit.

2869
02:53:59,400 --> 02:54:05,340
really shameless frappe I think
it was on the BBC or someone. It

2870
02:54:05,340 --> 02:54:06,720
was a TV network.

2871
02:54:06,750 --> 02:54:11,430
I had I had the same report from
a different Douds crazy. I had

2872
02:54:11,430 --> 02:54:14,880
the same one. I'm like, you've
got to hear this because it's an

2873
02:54:14,910 --> 02:54:17,130
Did you see that? You saw the
video? I take it right. Oh,

2874
02:54:17,130 --> 02:54:20,370
yeah, the little thing, spin it
around the video I had I thought

2875
02:54:20,370 --> 02:54:23,880
it was like six feet tall. And
then and then they show that

2876
02:54:23,880 --> 02:54:24,930
it's just like, it's like,

2877
02:54:24,960 --> 02:54:26,040
yeah, it's a little bitty thing.

2878
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:28,050
It's like eight eight inches
tall.

2879
02:54:28,140 --> 02:54:33,660
Right. And of course, this is
all bull crap. It is only done

2880
02:54:33,660 --> 02:54:36,720
to get this before museum some
more customers because everyone

2881
02:54:36,720 --> 02:54:40,020
wants to see this spinning
mummy. Yeah. And so it's like

2882
02:54:40,050 --> 02:54:43,470
it's such it's Shameless,
Shameless. Yeah.

2883
02:54:43,950 --> 02:54:48,750
And that passes for actual news
and entertainment people. That's

2884
02:54:48,750 --> 02:54:48,930
what

2885
02:54:49,199 --> 02:54:52,859
out question. Nobody said well,
why don't you put put a guard on

2886
02:54:52,859 --> 02:54:54,689
it? Why don't you have somebody
standing there? Why don't you

2887
02:54:54,839 --> 02:54:57,689
put a camera on it running not
time lapse. We'll just have it

2888
02:54:57,689 --> 02:54:59,879
running. Because, you know,
obviously somebody's coming in

2889
02:54:59,879 --> 02:55:02,639
there. Removing it, take another
picture. They move at some more.

2890
02:55:03,839 --> 02:55:07,829
It's so phony, and they play it
straight and may have spirits in

2891
02:55:07,829 --> 02:55:10,889
it. What kind of what kind of
presentation is this to the

2892
02:55:10,889 --> 02:55:17,009
public? Does shameless plug for
the museum? Bogota of story is

2893
02:55:17,009 --> 02:55:17,939
disgusting.

2894
02:55:17,970 --> 02:55:20,610
And both of us saw it. How
horrible is that? What

2895
02:55:21,270 --> 02:55:23,970
was being played all over the
place? So there was a there is a

2896
02:55:23,970 --> 02:55:27,810
public relations agency that was
behind this idea.

2897
02:55:28,620 --> 02:55:34,140
Yeah, so I don't think I can
oops, sorry. I did it. I don't

2898
02:55:34,140 --> 02:55:36,630
know if I if I can. I don't
think we have enough time for

2899
02:55:36,630 --> 02:55:39,900
today to get into the bigger
abortion bill debate here in

2900
02:55:39,900 --> 02:55:40,500
Texas.

2901
02:55:41,220 --> 02:55:43,980
Now we'll do it on the Sunday
show. And Allison want to go

2902
02:55:43,980 --> 02:55:46,260
look, I also want you and
everyone else to go look at

2903
02:55:46,260 --> 02:55:48,480
something kind of interesting
that was kind of revealed

2904
02:55:48,480 --> 02:55:52,530
recently that well, most of the
work that's done for these for

2905
02:55:52,530 --> 02:55:55,350
the NSA, the CIA, all the people
that do the profiling, all the

2906
02:55:55,350 --> 02:55:58,320
bad actors are kept track of
it's not being kept track of by

2907
02:55:58,320 --> 02:56:01,470
any of these agencies is being
kept. If you're a bad person.

2908
02:56:02,010 --> 02:56:06,210
You're in the in the dossiers of
the State Department. A special

2909
02:56:06,210 --> 02:56:08,760
operation has been around for
years and nobody ever talks

2910
02:56:08,760 --> 02:56:13,350
about called the Bureau of
Intelligence and Research. And

2911
02:56:13,350 --> 02:56:17,580
as is the i n, our intelligence
research managed by the

2912
02:56:17,580 --> 02:56:21,390
Assistant Secretary Philip
Goldberg. This is a major

2913
02:56:21,390 --> 02:56:25,530
operation that is never
discussed. Well,

2914
02:56:25,710 --> 02:56:32,610
Bernstein and Woodward. Were
done. What was the point of

2915
02:56:32,610 --> 02:56:33,090
that?

2916
02:56:33,570 --> 02:56:35,820
I just want people to get clued
in because I'm gonna look into

2917
02:56:35,820 --> 02:56:36,000
this.

2918
02:56:36,030 --> 02:56:38,790
Okay. This is a tease. It's a
tease for Sunday.

2919
02:56:38,940 --> 02:56:40,410
So tease for Sunday. All right.

2920
02:56:41,130 --> 02:56:46,710
Well, anyway, sorry about Nelson
Mandela. Because he'll be dead

2921
02:56:46,710 --> 02:56:49,620
by Sunday. Yeah,

2922
02:56:49,680 --> 02:56:51,600
do we need a Deadpool on this?

2923
02:56:51,960 --> 02:56:55,260
He's already dead. They just
needed Obama to get there. He's

2924
02:56:55,260 --> 02:56:56,490
dead. Dead.

2925
02:56:58,530 --> 02:57:02,100
Obama's gonna be by his side as
he died. Yeah. How about that

2926
02:57:02,100 --> 02:57:02,640
for an idea

2927
02:57:02,670 --> 02:57:06,090
that will that will the Yes.
Hello. That's how we started the

2928
02:57:06,090 --> 02:57:10,800
whole show. Ended. Okay, we
don't even have time for an end

2929
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:15,540
of show clip I want to play. Oh,
I will do all this on Sunday.

2930
02:57:15,810 --> 02:57:18,360
You know what, you got to come
back on Sunday, you really do.

2931
02:57:18,960 --> 02:57:22,740
Because we only get the music
going there. Because we really

2932
02:57:22,740 --> 02:57:25,710
got all kinds of groovy stuff
for you. John's going to be

2933
02:57:25,710 --> 02:57:30,960
working on on the INR, which I
had not heard of. We'll have

2934
02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:34,230
more stories about chewing
leaves with hookers in the Andes

2935
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:41,610
or whatever it was. And I would
love to give you my analysis of

2936
02:57:42,210 --> 02:57:47,430
Senate Bill five of the Texas
legislature for which it

2937
02:57:47,430 --> 02:57:53,010
seemingly 1000s of people were
able to organize around stopping

2938
02:57:53,010 --> 02:57:56,910
that. And all these other
atrocities just go on. And no,

2939
02:57:56,910 --> 02:58:00,000
it's all good for your security.
So I think we need to look at

2940
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:03,300
our priorities. I'd love to
discuss that because no other

2941
02:58:03,300 --> 02:58:09,420
news outfit can have a frank
conversation. We can why because

2942
02:58:09,630 --> 02:58:15,060
you support us. And that's the
only way we stay on the air

2943
02:58:16,290 --> 02:58:19,500
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2944
02:58:19,500 --> 02:58:22,020
capital of the drone Star State
in the morning, everybody. My

2945
02:58:22,020 --> 02:58:22,950
name is Adam curry.

2946
02:58:23,310 --> 02:58:26,430
And coming to you from Northern
Silicon Valley here in the state

2947
02:58:26,430 --> 02:58:28,590
of California on John C. Dvorak.
We'll

2948
02:58:28,590 --> 02:58:32,730
be back on Sunday. Please join
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2949
02:58:51,330 --> 02:58:55,590
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2950
02:58:56,070 --> 02:59:00,660
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2951
02:59:00,660 --> 02:59:03,930
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2952
02:59:04,050 --> 02:59:08,850
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2953
02:59:08,940 --> 02:59:14,130
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2954
02:59:14,130 --> 02:59:22,680
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