Special execute anyone at her own will? Adam curry John C.
Dvorak.
Sunday, July 7 2013. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode five to eight.
This is no agenda and join
my star chamber in the Travis heights hideout in Austin Jay
Haas capital, the drone Star State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's dark. And there's
crickets out. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan Buzzkill. Did you have like some kind of corporate deal
with the Cricut maker guys who said, what I
can do if I if I keep saying that the sounds like then people
will believe it a place,
then people? Oh, yeah. That sounds just like crickets. No,
doesn't sound Do it. Do it to make the sound good. We've been
listening to this for 10 minutes already. Yeah.
Oh, oh, dear. There's crickets.
What shall we let's stay inside this crickets.
So well, we had a number of incidents over the past few
days, we're hoping they get to hit our six week cycle. One of
them I think had promised but it got screwed up by this airplane
crash, which we've determined is not part of anything and in
especially when the FBI comes out and says no terrorism here.
Yeah, so we need to backtrack just a little bit. There may be
some newer listeners to the program. We were informed quite
a while ago, by people inside of the FBI, that the FBI does a lot
of these these kind of like honeypot deals where they
infiltrate a group and that goading the guy and like, you
know, they, at no point does he ever have any real explosives?
And then like, yeah, man, hey, you've dialed a cell phone
number, and he will blow it all up. And the reason why they do
this approximately every six weeks is because that's how they
maintain their budgets. That's how they grow the organization.
That's what they do, quite frankly. And we don't know if
this is happening in every agency. But we have pretty good
confirmation affirmation. This is happening with the FBI, and
we've been able to kind of set our clocks by it. And we were, I
guess, Fourth of July was time for a new one. Is that it? Yeah.
The Fourth of July, July week. I say that the incident in
Washington State would qualify, I could say, I wouldn't say
there's a train wreck peculiar train wreck that took place up
in Canada. But that that didn't seem to be getting any legs. And
then of course, everything was up ended by the 777 crash, which
looks like would have been a gem.
Yeah, but there was You're right. And it was really
interesting to see this happen. And most people who listen to
the show for a while know that I have been flying for. What is it
now John a decade, more than a decade, I've been flying like 12
years, I've been flying helicopters airplanes. And one
of them was that
long period of time where you were smoking dope all the time
while flying.
And what what is always interesting is to see how the
reporting is done on aviation incidents, because this is
something I one of the few things I actually know a lot
about. You
know, I just have a couple of clips I want to play before we
get into your analysis. Sure. Because I was watching, I was
watching in the reporting of this from Central China News
Service, because most of the people that were on that plane
were Chinese. In fact, most of the people
can I just ask you something about that. So there were 160
Chinese people on this plane. Yeah, a lot of students are oh,
they're students. I'm like, What are they doing? A lot of them
are students. We'd like Africa. Now. There's just a million
Chinese everywhere. And they're like building pipelines and
blowing in the Caribbean. They have to take a flight out of
Seoul. I don't know if they don't trust their own care I
do now and before you get into your clips, and I think we've
talked about this before, that when you are in, in the
California airspace in particular around San Francisco,
you almost cannot understand what is being said on the radio,
because it's all Asian students, primarily Chinese who are
learning to fly. From zero Sherif rah rah rah rah online.
What? Ferrari rowshare on our line, what you have no idea what
they're talking about. It's insane. The airspace above San
Francisco is unintelligible Asian pilots.
Yeah, yeah. It's funny. No, it's
not. It's frightening when you're funny, too. You know?
It's not. That's fun. You're
saying no. So I got a couple of things. One, there was one very
peculiar report, but let's see what we got. We got Asian
passengers report. I think there's a second one. Weird
testimony of crash. Now. I want to start with this one. This is
a kid that was on the flight. And he he was talking he was
weird. What he says is odd enough. But then when he says it
was sitting next to a hole in the fuselage of a cop, good, you
don't get to see this on the clip, but I'm gonna tell you
what happened. A cop came rushing over and grabbed him and
hold him off.
While he was doing this, yeah. Well, that's weird. What What's
this was on the Chinese news. Yeah, I was listened to it.
One of the passengers aboard Asiana Airlines flight 12214
spoke to reporters after the crash. It described what
happened when the plane came in to land at San Francisco
International Airport. And went up and down and then and then
it's flipped to something like that. I'm not sure. And then it
hit the ground and then yeah, so and what happened was people
injured. Top just totally collapsed on a lot of people. So
a lot of people were injured. Yeah. Okay. Where were you
sitting? I was sitting next to like, this big hole. Yeah.
Now I've got one thing that kind of struck me was fuselage. I
guess it was, you know, the slams down into the roof caves
in
it. This is but this is not the this is not abnormal. Yeah, I've
had a hard landing once in my Cessna 182 Besides really
rattling my my teeth, like, like with, like, really, really, and
I think I only landed hard from I'll say 10 feet, perhaps but
you know, essentially, a hard landing is the the wing the wing
stall, so you have no lift. It's not an engine stall. But the
wing stall, you have no lift and then you you fall to the ground
like a brick. There's no floating no gliding is like
boom, you're down it through all my inch, I had to have the
entire instrument panel taken out. Because the altimeter
everything was bent and broken. The airframe, I was lucky that
the airframe didn't have to go back into the jig and this is
just 10 feet with a Cessna. So to have this to have the roof
cave in is not unexpected at all.
Okay, so now we go to Chinese passengers report and there's
just a bunch of miscellaneous stuff here. That's kind of
interesting. This is all for your edification more than
anyone else's. So you when you give you a report, you can take
this to account. Okay,
thank you very much. Indeed. Our correspondent Rebecca thering.
At San Francisco International Airport. Some eyewitnesses say
to playing appeared to lose control as it landed and others
say the tail appeared to hit ground. Okay.
So what's this is this is kind of fun to to analyze. It's
probably it was exactly the opposite. But the way this is
reported, it sounds like they were coming in wildly out of
control going from left to right. And then oh, then the
tail fell off. Whereas it's probably exactly the opposite
where they came in nice and smooth. The tail hits the
seawall. And then of course, when you know when you have no
tail and your landing gear is collapse, and you're essentially
just rushing down whatever it
was a guy that follows this has I think it kind of an
explanation for it saw that land.
Well, yeah, people who say that plane flipped over and did
triple somersaults. that's out there.
But I saw was as it was coming into land at the last minute,
you could see the front end pop up, and then slammed out.
It was way too low. Way too soon. It just the wheels caught
and the tail of the plane caught the fork onto the runway, and
then it pancaked on the runway.
Chinese passenger aboard Asiana Airlines flight 214 has
described his experience at the moment the plane caught fire
Sridhar describes the crash on the social network site Weibo
does China's version of Twitter. It says he was sitting at one
end of the plane and the plane seemed to lose altitude very
quickly on landing. As he looked through the window of the plane,
it seemed to be level with seawall. The plane seemed to dip
suddenly and pull up abruptly afterwards, he heard a loud
explosion and could smell burning and see flames. Now
another entry on Weibo it says during the half an hour it took
between landing to evacuation. The passengers and rescuers all
remained very calm. There was no shouting and passengers
evacuated in an orderly fashion. Their response to the crash of
the Asiana Airlines flight in San Francisco CCTV has launched
an update service via social networking platforms good
yeah, that shouldn't be
okay. So let me let me give you an analysis. What you're hearing
here is pretty useless. It's interesting that's coming from
the Chinese television and and from you know, from Chinese
Twitter, but none of this you know, when people say I've read
everything from it was coming in too low, way too fast where All
data shows exactly the opposite that it was, if anything, it was
the aircraft was going to slow. But for me, the fun thing was to
immediately and you know, and I think we can all agree that I am
always looking for the story behind the story he's looking
for. And we've done lots of aviation analysis where we think
there has been a lot of fishing is going on or incomplete
answers or something may even be covered up. We've talked about
this many different incidents in the past six years. This one
though, the fact that Sheryl Sandberg was switched flights to
get her to get miles on United, that means nothing. It was not a
message to Facebook. I don't think they were trying to kill
her. And that the guy from Samsung was on the plane. And
this was
random on any one of these slicers I'd love nameless
people. Yeah, of course, of course. But at the Sandberg
thing I'm sketchy about it sounds like you know, it
sounds it sounds like she's a horn wants to promote her book
is what it sounds like to me.
That's what it sounds like to me, too. I mean, why would if I
was transferred flights and I do it all commonly. And then the
plane crashed. I'm not gonna go out. Oh, geez, I go to bed on
that plane. It's just like, you know, I'm on another plane.
No, you wouldn't you probably would have had a book out. Yes.
I'll take it back. Publicity horror is what I meant to say
not a horror publicity whore. Yeah, cuz because that's what
I'm seeing. I'm seeing
I wouldn't do it unless I had a book to sell right. But but
let's go this last one and I hate to bring the bell out on
this one. But this just look correspond a cute little British
girl who looks frightened. And but she's, she's cute. Very
pretty on again to Chinese new servers. I put CNN on here. And
I call her the M girl because she has this habit of saying I'm
not just a which is
uncommon amongst she's like a Hummer. She's a she's a kind of
like a horror, but she doesn't really
she doesn't come off as one but her um, scan to make up for and
unfortunately, I have to ring the bell as we play this. Okay,
no,
that's all right. We always appreciate that.
Some have gone to nearby cities to wait it out. But as I say,
Tomorrow morning is when we will have an update on the assessment
of that team. Terrorism has been ruled out by the FBI, which is
an important thing to add. Because after 911 questions are
immediately raised as to whether or not there's something to
terrorism, we do not believe that to be the case. And various
theories are being put forward at this stage of absolutely only
speculation. But some people are wondering if there was a power
outage on the plane. Other people wondering if the fact
that the runway was lengthened in recent weeks, impacted on the
pilots approach. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Was
she a passenger?
No, no, she's a reporter.
Oh, okay. Thank you. Oh, my Wait a minute. What does she she's
and she's just talking out of her anus. This is This is funny.
I'm a
survivor of that. Also a piece of technology a device which
helps pilots to judge distances and height as they come into a
piece of
technology that helps pilots to measure distance and height.
It's been around since World War Two, young lady, this piece of
technology has supposedly been out of action for a few days out
of action for a few days. Oh, again, questions, your best
clip. Beautiful weather. It was a clear blue sky this morning,
so I just want to let the extra investigators do their job but
certainly asked about how this could have happened.
All right. All right. Thank you. This was a good clip because
this is exactly what pisses me off so much. And and any one of
you listening to this podcast will know something. You're an
expert in something. It may be gardening, it may be bicycle
shop repair, it may be trading stocks and bonds. I don't know
what it is. It's probably
one of those guys, give us a give us some tips. stocks. You
know, you may be working I don't think you need to justify your
position I think we should get
no I'm not justifying the position. Um, I just want to
remind people, Hey, give me a break here is that when you see
something in the news that you actually knows something about
and it's completely wrong. You must assume everything else in
the news is wrong. That's the point I'm making. Oh,
yeah, you did that you tend to do that I think which means we
make these mistakes we say some boneheaded stuff once a while
but we usually make up for it. Yeah. Yeah. In a follow up.
Here's what happened. First of all, this is great because only
two people died. Why am I getting the bell rung at me? I
said great. Okay, okay. Every single time you say so I'll hit
you with that. I wish you would. We have the show would be too
long. This is a guy named made me self conscious. This is this
is an interesting accident because we have two pilots who
are alive. Very low death count. Everyone got off the bus. laying
quickly and of course the two victims I believe that they were
probably ripped out of the plane when the tale came yes
actually one report by the Chinese let me get to my
analysis Mr. Cliff said that the two guys were throw it to women
thrown out yeah, now that sounds like they were
ripped out. Which sucks. Though didn't um the ILS the instrument
landing system on this particular runway was is out of
service until August this was mentioned in the no Tam, the
notice to Airmen, nothing unusual about that had they
needed to do an instrument landing they could have taken
runway one nine, not a problem that was fully in service. When
you do a visual approach, and most of in San Francisco, most
of these landings are visual approaches mainly because of the
weather. It's also a beautiful, it's almost straight in all the
way and it's nice coming over the water. And then when then
you're down. It's a huge, huge long runway. You also have your
Pap eye lights, Pappy lights, or you might hear a lot of
boneheads on the news talking about Poppy lights or whatever,
they have no idea what they're talking about P API and this is
their the red and white lights position so that you can find
the exact right glide path. And if you're too low, then you have
four red, if you're too high, you get four whites. And if
you're exactly on the glide path, you have two red lights
and two white lights. Now, these lights could have been tampered
with, that's entirely possible. But that's pretty much how you
come in. But also, if you know how to drive a car, you kind of
get a feel after 10,000 hours of flying, where are you going to
put this airplane down, it's this is not like some big
magical mystical thing, you do have a feel for the plane unless
you don't know what you're doing. Or maybe you haven't
practiced in years and just letting the plane auto land. And
these guys came in too low. And from the data we have, which is
not not necessarily accurate as radar data, we can see that it
appears the plane, the aircraft was going too slow at a certain
point may have stalled, they hit full throttle, then essentially
tried to execute a go around, popped up the nose, which is
over rotation that maybe they weren't even in rotation the
tail hits the seawall. And that's it, the rest of the plane
slams down and that thing is starting to break apart the
minute that happens. And you know, you're still doing
according to the data, we have about 85 miles an hour, so
you're gonna glide on for a bit. And there's really nothing more
or less to it. That doesn't seem to be any, any I'm going to say
probably pilot error in unless there was some catastrophic
event that doesn't appear to have happen that cut the
engines, you know, 1000 feet up, but the data we have now just
doesn't show it. So we have two pilots who are alive. We have
blackbox will and by the time you listen to this podcast,
everything may already be be known. But I agree, John, that
the minute the FBI came on when and it's funny how whenever we
have these events, usually speculation of terrorism is
right on the front. Except when it's really not set up in a
really it's an accident. You know what I mean?
Exactly? It's like, was it? Did you guys do anything in that
department? No.
We were clean. No, I'll clear here. Hey, is this CIA ops? No,
no. They call USA Today. They usually they know more than we
do know. Now. We don't know anything. Okay, bring out the
guy to say it's not us. So bad day in aviation. That's today.
wrecker is what we call it. Now, it's not to say that because I
did read. Here we go. The White House put out a statement. Soon
after the plane crash in San Francisco, the President was
made aware of the incident by Lisa Monaco Assistant to the
President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism. It's not
to say they won't use it. That is always a possibility. Yeah,
he's
gonna be hard.
I think you guys he was very hard to do that now. But but I'm
sure they probably evaluated it. Can we use this? Can we do
anything with this? Oh, well, oh, well, only thing I'll give
you my little minor crackpot theory. We've had a huge I think
we had a class X. A solar flare it and at around the same time,
there was another set a triple seven that had an incident.
Where is it? Probable but there was another one there was
another triple seven that had some incident about five minutes
apart from the flight to 14, maybe maybe maybe somewhere it
is possible that instruments got jiggered because of some kind of
Solar because we have had some very severe solar weather
events. So it's possible but you know, I don't like that
it's used for the pilot. Yeah,
I'm not very familiar with the triple seven we're kind of steam
gauges they have because all most aircraft that I know of the
other got the computers and everything but they still have
kind of a steam gauge version of an altimeter and that's kind of
what you need, you know your speed and altitude you can you
can do pretty well with those two. And it just seems like they
messed it up and sad, but that's it.
Well, it wasn't a major disaster it was just a disaster.
Yeah, there's no what constitutes a disaster Do you
doesn't have to have a certain body count or no I
don't even think is body counting of building a bridge
collapsing and nobody getting killed is a disaster. That's a
crazy galloping Gertie on the Verrazano straits. You know,
that bridge, it was swinging back and forth with a car on it.
Though I think the only death was the dog in the car. Remember
that? Yeah. So John Kerry's head. Can we call that a
disaster is that does that character? Did you see him? So
you know, when a revolution is the worst Secretary of State?
Oh, well, and he doesn't even know how to do it right. Now.
All he does is talk but worse. So Egypt is in the midst of some
form of revolution. And he is taking a canoe out to his tender
to get on his yacht. He was on this boat. Did you see these
pictures of him in a canoe? It's hilarious. He's taking. Yeah,
it's a little red canoe. And he's taken the canoe out to the
tender. The tender is kind of the boat that takes you to the
shot to the yacht. And then he's he's got his backpack and his
weekend bag. And he's like, looking at the cameras like,
hey, we do. And he was on his yacht. I mean, the President was
in the, you know, in the set B. Yeah. He was in the his city,
his war room, his situation room, looking all concerned and
everybody was there except Kerry. He couldn't even make it
to the meeting. He was on the yacht. That's dumb. That I mean,
that's, that's, you don't you don't you do not aspire to a
political future. If this happens, and you're not in the
room.
Yeah, pretty much that was done, especially with this thing
going. I mean, not only that, but it's the other things going
on. He doesn't have time to be floating around on his yacht
with his top ciders.
I do have a feeling that you're right. This University of
Washington thing. Well, maybe they were going to try and play
this up. And this seems like a total FBI setups.
very sketchy. I have one clip or two clips out actually. Can I
play one? You have one? Is it the same clip? I have?
I don't know. I've got one with scary music.
I think I just have a straight news report. Well, I have a news
report. A scary new music and
so this is a news report from Washington from local news,
where they put the scary music in which to me is like oh, this
is the queue. This is gotta be the guy. Now our other big story
of the night.
A stolen stolen guns and Molotov cocktails. And I police have
arrested a suspect but now investigators are trying to
figure out why he was here and what he might have been planning
to do.
Have you ever heard a news report with that music?
This is like a local news rip yes this
is Katie sounds like a package
it well. Thank
you. I'm pretty sure it's a package. But then they do it
with this music this kind of electronica Suspense music
that Madison police custody and so is the cache of weapons and
body armor from the back of the truck cache
a cache of weapons it's like a disaster of weapons. Tonight.
We're getting our first look at that vehicle but police still
aren't sure what the suspect might have been planning come
before us. John
Humbert has the latest developments for us tonight. The
truck wasn't his but police say the weapons were last night
University of Washington police arrested 21 year old Justin
miles Jasper and Nevada resident. They first found him
near U DUB Tuesday sleeping in the truck. Nothing seemed out of
place. There was no need to have any additional contact with the
suspect the subject at that time. So he was released. But
Wednesday morning, everything changed. That blue truck came
back as stolen from Butte, Montana. Police went back on the
hunt. And this
is what I find interesting. So this guy, they talked to him he
was sleeping in the truck and then the truck turns out to be
stolen. They go back or the guy still there. He's still sleeping
because he's such a terrorist. He's hanging around in the same
spot. We have no idea what his intentions are.
Police eventually found Jasper in the truck last night and
uncovered a stolen shotgun, scoped rifle scoped rifle. A
handful of Molotov cocktails and body armor.
Molotov cocktail.
How do you have a handful of Molotov cocktails?
He's got big hands. His hands are the big foam hands got the
biggest hands in the world Malkoff cocktails technically, a
bottle of like a, like a milk bottle filled with gasoline and
a rag stuffed in
it. Yeah, no, this is this is sterno things it's for cooking.
So he had no Molotov. This is crazy. And the best part, which
there's not mentioned in this report, I don't know if you ever
report about it is that he had a podcast.
Yeah. That was in the written report. I didn't hear it in any
of the TV stuff.
No. And I was like, really? Are they going for the podcast? But
I listened to his podcast, which is called Freedom Fighter radio.
Oh, you found it? Yeah. I
sent you a note I sent you in I actually sent you a link to it
on iTunes
it Oh, yeah. The clip? No, I
can't. You don't even you can't listen to this for five seconds.
It's this guy is insane. And his whole podcast one of these Alex
Jones wannabes. Like they're ever gonna do a rally here we
got our we're gonna have our ARS. We're gonna be cocked and
loaded and one in the chamber. I'm gonna get pissed off people.
That's
telling you pretty good. Alex Jones.
Oh, I can do much better. I told you this. We have to document
the join us again. Blow your voice. Yeah.
Would it be that we messed up? If I then wound up having a
voice like him all the time?
Yeah, you blew it. You blow your voice out trying to do him and
then up then you become a voice.
Alright, let's have some tangy tangerine.
Okay, well, I took a different little a different tact on this.
I I think maybe they weren't going after podcasts. But I
think they de emphasize that on these reports. Luckily,
well, the podcasts suck so bad. If it's a detriment to you can't
even it's not fair to call it a podcast,
just a rantings of a lunatic? Well,
I have a link to it. Everyone can go check it out on talk
shoe. What's interesting, is he has one line on talk shoe you
can record and then you can schedule it for release. It's
supposed to come out I think on the 11th so tomorrow, no, the
11th No, the ninth Tuesday. It's supposed to automatically be
released so you can't listen to it yet. Yeah, I know. But this
guy is over. It doesn't matter. This is no play. No play. He's
out of out of play.
I think so too. But I think there's still an element here
that we have to be on the lookout for and see if you can
spot what it is with the I haven't in both in well you'll
you'll catch in the second clip for sure.
Which 1am i Oh Jasper one Jasper one. All right.
Disturbing details emerge about a man you got music to do you
hear that? Some local news shows are great arrested near the
University of Washington.
Investigators say not only was he armed with fire bombs, guns,
knives and a machete he had maps to three Seattle campuses. It
sounds very similar to mine. To my scary music. No yours is
scary. Do you mind to hold on to somebody? Let me check. Now our
other big story of the night a stark difference to judge
called the suspect and imminent threat the prosecutor laid out
stunning new evidence it all unfolded today in the Seattle
courtroom as we got our first look at the man behind all the
ammo. Coming first Lindsey Cohen is live in downtown Seattle with
a very first appearance.
Where does all the ammo come from? We haven't heard about it
he's
behind for just drove Bella's
picked up just 1000s of boxes of ammo. Buy love. Have a good
time. I'll see you later Jasper Lindsay.
Eric, we also got our first glimpse at some core papers
where that suspect lists his occupation as a journalist. What
we don't have at this point is any sort of motive or
explanation.
There I see what you're coming at. He's a journalist.
He may have no criminal history, but prosecutors hint Justin
miles Jasper may have been planning something big being
military grade and quality in addition to a stockpile of
military grade weapons. Prosecutors now say the Las
Vegas resident was filled with anti government literature. In
addition to detailed maps of Seattle area college campuses,
you had a no agenda lanyard, which is anti government
literature.
And police at the University of Washington pulled him over in a
stolen truck Wednesday night
yet maps detailed maps to three college campuses including
University of Washington, Seattle Community College and
Seattle University.
That's great. I love the journalist.
Yeah, no journalists,
from podcasts or journalists. Yeah, that's good.
Okay, now there's a couple of memes here we have to always
deal with one is we know and we've talked about And we're at
least the two of us. I believe both of us are convinced that
they're trying to criminalize unlicensed journalism.
Yes. Wanton, wanton publishing wanton. potlights, and
publishing and
all the rest of it. So there's gonna be a lot of people, I
don't think the two of us would be categorized in this category.
I mean, I've been written for newspapers, I think I get I get
I get through the filter.
Are you saying something about me?
You? You? I think you, you, I don't know why
I have I do have a case, I have thoughts on what defines someone
as a journalist or not I knew to anyone
is a journalist who didn't with the Founding Fathers, they were
all journalistic. Anyone who writes as a journalist, and it's
all it's legal to write and say what you want. That's what the
whole deal is. I don't know why they've made why they're trying
to crack down on this. But but the idea is to make I do
I do, okay, because their definition quote, they there
them, those guys, a journalist is someone who has an editor,
that is what is going to be the ultimate definition of a
journalist. If you are within an organization or your work is
submitted to an editor, then you will be deemed a journalist and
annual, you're gonna
have to submit your work to me. Yes, and you will have to
approve it. I have to fan and I have to grade me on it. When I
send the newsletter out. In fact,
I approve it, I approve your work, send
it to you edit it,
and I send it back. And usually I'm like, oh, man, don't you
know how to spell use a spell checker?
So I use a spell checker beside the point. Yeah, works great.
But you have to put that so I think it would whatever the case
is that in the other one, which I think is the one that we're
really working on here, which is a freedom of speech. The Press
issue, yeah, which is anti government literature, whatever
that is, we play Jasper to and we hear some outside.
What Jasper was going to do with those universities remains to be
seen but police say they found a shotgun, a rifle, six Molotov
cocktails, three knives, even body armor. In court,
prosecutors held up some of the anti government literature that
was also found
shooting revolution is being hijacked by Western vultures.
The other one the Brazilian revolution is
Jasper's arrest on the Fourth of July caught the attention of
students at U DUB Oh, hold
on a second. What's the play there? Yeah, he read the his
This is anti government literature
that it's talking about the Brazilian government. Yeah,
he says this Syrian the Syrian revolution is being hijacked by
Western powers. And the Brazilian revolution is not
being emphasized something or other. How is this and rose to
being anti government with maybe it's about some other
government. But this is not anti government literature,
these this is very, very dangerous. This news report is
more dangerous than this guy. Obviously, this is the kind of
stuff that this report is disgusting. It's very unedited.
Clearly, we have some package things being sent around with,
with music all queued up to make it all you know, to emphasize
it. We know that this happens all the time that these news
packages are sent out. And then the local news loves it. They
love getting it because they don't have to send a guy out to
do a voiceover didn't sound like they had much more than that.
They had pool video. Yeah, this is dangerous. This is very
dangerous stuff. But we're getting close. John, we are now
officially within target range when they start talking about
podcasters being journalists and then journalists having anti
government material. How about our show notes?
They don't notes for the no agenda show or anti government?
I was a prosecutor with you know, a grudge. Yeah. Or I just
had you targeted, let's say targeted? Yeah, I could go
through that. And I could make a case easily. But I could do that
with the New York Times for that matter.
This is this is what this whole man, this is exactly the
conversation that people need to understand when it comes to
getting, you know, allowing some mediocre encroachment on your
liberty, in turn for some safety. This is exactly the
problem, the interpretation. I was telling someone the other
day, I was involved in the first real loss that I was involved in
with many more to follow was at Viacom versus me about the
mtv.com domain name. And this is now 1993. And I went through the
process of discovery and with discovery, you pretty much have
to show everything that the other side asked for and in
those days, it was email but email we didn't have you know,
nice little didn't have Gmail or any of this. You know, you had
your email on a server that you typically had in your own
office. We didn't have you know, services that hosted me They'll
servers. And I had to take printouts of email, yes,
printouts, reams of paper, and backups on floppies, which were
three and a half inch hard floppies, not quite the floppy
floppies. And I had to take them over and I had to walk through
it all with the with the other attorneys. And when this is used
in court, as I wrote something off the cuff like, you know,
fuck those guys at MTV, but about, you know, a video that
we're playing. And I wrote that to someone else that was then
used in court. Yeah. And you hear the other lawyer use this,
you know, clearly Mr. Curry had a disdain for the, and you sit
there you go, like, holy crap, I'm guilty. That's how that's
how it comes across it without context without the that's why
communications that are private have to be private. Because if I
say this show, John knows, as you all know, I'm talking about
no agenda show. But to someone who just reads that sentence in
a transcript has no idea what they think, Oh, he was talking
about that guy's show. It's the context that that that can then
be used to put anyone in jail, including, as you point out,
John and the entire staff, a newsroom with the New York Times
if you have no context. Yeah. Alright, that's it. Good night.
We're done
at a drop of a hat if it was if it wasn't, but by virtue of the
fact that we are so entertaining, many of our
government agents, yes. We've gone long ago.
Like, I'm sure the note comes by from time to time, it has time
to pick those guys up. And I was like, Oh, no. What are we going
to do twice a week? What I'm going to do on my commute? Have
you ever driven in to the DC? Come on, we can't pick those
guys up. But clearly, Something's coming.
Yeah. And it has to do with government literature. I have
like a fairly decent collection for exam
of anti government literature. No, I haven't selected Lenin the
anti government literature
Marxist stuff. In fact, I'm reading Karl Marx's history of
the civil war as we speak now you
you you commie anti government basket would be
it could be easily construed if it was taken completely out of
context. Yes, I was a communist. Communist as you can get.
Absolutely. And that's the number one thing with books I
have mine calm fear.
Well, I've always suspected that Oh, please come on. I have mine
coffin I have. I have Mussolini's novel. Of course,
you have mine comp. Yeah, of course. It's somewhere I don't
even know where it is important information. I have Mussolini's
novel, which has got to say that must be crazy. No, yes. Well, I
can't remember the name of it's really a piece of crap. I think
it's very collected information, man.
New shit has come to light. You're not going to believe
this. The book that you turned everyone on to in the garden of
the beasts. Yeah, yeah. Now I so there's only two possible
reasons this is happening. A which I want to believe we are
just so ahead of the curve. Are you Did you just get Whoa, what
was that?
Not me. Oh, that was me.
Never had that happen before. On the Windows box. either. You are
just so ahead of the curve, which I think is pretty much
what we always are on the show or and I'd hate to think this.
You are an agent of change. Throwing propaganda on us.
Yeah, yeah. That seems unlikely based on my income
Tom. Tom Hanks will be releasing the movie version of in the
garden of beasts in 2014. Well, that'd
be great.
How about that? Yeah. Is that insane that we've been talking
about this. And he will play the ambassador he'll play the
ambassador and Natalie Portman will be this is gonna be a huge
mural. Natalie
Portman is going to be the dim witted daughter. Yeah.
It says it says rumored but I'm
perfect. I think she'd be good all in on the Nazi screw and
they head to the Gestapo. And she's smoking.
Yeah. Tommy. So now we have to think Tom Hanks. Him doing this
is he what's the spin he's gonna eat? I mean, it's hard to put
any spin on this book, although I looked at the budget
was producing and direct he is
it's his touchstone. It's his it's his he's gonna It's Oh,
he's going yeah. No, yes. No, no, I'm sorry, Director.
Michelle. azana Vicus. Let me see what Michelle Havana NICUs
has done. He's done. Ooh, some spy. Movies OSS one separately,
guys. What is the artists 2009? Which I O T directed the artist?
Oh, hello you know the artists right?
I know the
artists yeah the silent movie that won the Best Oscar so
that's a great director.
Well, yeah, but now he's got voices so you get to do it as a
silent
silent, silent movie to a great movie no talking just a bunch of
Nazis all over Natalie Portman.
Well after reading the book I'm gonna be interested in see how
they handle it as a screenplay because there's a lot of stuff
in there. That's really weird play
tone productions have not touched on Play tone
productions. That's Hanks his movie company budget. $50
million. That's small. That's a small budget. Of course he can
but it's
not an action adventure. That's actually for just a straight
drama. That's that seems Reason No,
that's not true. It depends on the stars. Most of the money
that you see in these budgets, Frank Karachi, my friend who
just did the he doesn't the Kevin James movies, which are
not action movies, but he had Kevin James, Salma Hayek, he had
Henry Winkler that's $170 million movie and I said, What
do you do? You spend it on hookers? He's like, Yeah,
they're called actors. Because every one of these actors these
days are getting 20 $25 million. It's crazy.
Yeah, but if you're doing it, maybe this is a small this is
not the regular production company that Jenks works for. It
sounds to me that is going to take just a piece of the action,
run it out as an indie, and it's not going to cost that much.
Well, that is fine budget.
He's probably not taking any money. And this problem and this
budget probably does not include anything regarding marketing.
And Playtone. His his own production company.
Yeah, he's just gonna go for the small, small. Yeah.
But but it could. No, he's been known to do some kind of
propaganda stick stuff.
Yeah, very much. So.
Yeah. So is he going to turn this around and turn it into the
Nazis? We're good?
Don't think so? I think it'll work that one out.
And how do you choose this? The only reason you brought this
book up is to say hold on a second. Look at exactly where we
are. This is the only reason to read this book now is to say,
here's history. Look at what happened the run up to the to
the Hitler regime, to the killing of anyone not blue eyed
and blonde, to the overrun of Europe to the the second
greatest World War. The only reason to read that now is to
avoid the same trappings which we're clearly headed right
towards. Do you think Tom Hanks is the guy to bring this message
in this movie? Or is he trying to fork this message and make it
into a Nazi movie? You know what I mean?
Like don't go read the message I think the message I think you're
writing the message of this book it base level is that the world
back then is maybe what we're going through now which is we
talk about this commonly on the show that are we in the 30s in
1930s Germany it was was it like that when you around the dinner
table what was going on in Germany they weren't all freaked
out because Hitler was running things they were all happy
people were acting normal they agreed with everything you know
in fact like the story in the in the book which the with the
demoted daughter, who's screwing everybody she just thinks that
Nazism is fantastic, right? Right and then famous. What's
good Kaltenborn who was a radio commentator? We've I don't know
if he played a clip of him before but we
let me give you an alternative scenario. And by the way, Mr.
Sandwich
I mean that that's what's in the book. I don't know what Hanks is
going to do.
alternative scenario Mr. Silicon in the chat room who said oh my
god who cares move on you're gonna be the first one in the
oven. Okay, you're the on the train in the oven first get
back to the story don't Don't be given us chat rooms.
The the maybe it went down like this. It Oh my god. And he's no
agenda guys are talking about this book. stop people from
reading the book. Hanks Hanks.
Hey, not Clooney. Well, he's
Hollywood establishment. Yeah, no, no, no, no. distraction from
legal action. Call Hollywood. Hey, thanks, man. Listen, could
you make this movie about you know, some jackboot guys bang
and Natalie Portman or something? Just some people
shouldn't read the book. Okay.
Well, it's so that's
not that's not important. It's not unthinkable.
No, and the people that always complain about this when they
see the movie, they read the book. They go, Oh, it's nothing
like the book. Actually. Nobody reads the book.
Exactly. Exactly.
Here's what's worse about that kind of thing. If you think
about it, here's the psychology. Hanks puts a dynamite movie not
dying. and might not see movie together important getting
screwed by these jackbooted thugs. And she's loving it. And
people cause it. There's nothing like the book is more than I
don't want to read the book. movie was great.
They win either way, whether the movies a dog or not. Well, the
important thing that the takeaway from this is, Tom Hanks
is going to wind up giving you information and giving the world
information that no matter how it turns out, people will not
read this book. And he's getting he has a $50 million budget for
it. We, on the other hand, will produce the best podcast in the
universe. And we have zero budget. Well, not true. We have
producers who care about what we're putting on the air. And I
think we should thank our executive producers very similar
to when this movie comes out. You'll see people up there you
know, John F. Kerry, you know, they have all the all the people
that helped out on the movie, we'll have some, you know, some
Holocaust experts, but then we'll have the money people,
Harvey Weinstein. Now, these are the people that are going to be
financing the movie you know, say executive producer, Harvey
Weinstein, Associate Executive Producer, Harvey, Weinstein's,
kid, brother, all that it just goes on and on and on and on. I
don't think he's married actually. Ah, so we have our
version of that. And these are the people that keep the show on
the air by enabling us to do the show. I am I talking long enough
to bring up the spreadsheet? Well, you
know, here's the problem. So I got a spreadsheet error, oh,
really excels unopened, able to open the file by repairing or
removing the unreadable content. And it gives a bunch of
unreadable parts. So all I do is I'll have it on mine is column
B, and a list of numbers. Do you have a spreadsheet? They don't
actually read? Yeah,
I do. I do. i What's
wrong with mine, I read in. And I also wish I want to mention
this to Eric. But I want to mention it to everybody. If
you're running newer versions of any of these prod any of these
windows products, don't send out the x version. Like for the
spreadsheets, send out an XLS. If you've got a doc file, people
do this all the time, they send out the doc x. Now only people
with the newest versions of these programs can read doc X,
man, man, I can read it as XLS x on this machine, by the way, but
if for some reason it's not coming in,
can I can I kind of give you some data points? Yes, number
one, you can open the X versions, I use Open Office and
it opens all x versions of everything. Beautifully. When
Eric sent the spreadsheet this morning, it said in the email it
said I have stopped using Windows eight I have moved to
Linux. There could be errors in the spreadsheet. I opened the
spreadsheet on Open Office on the Mac no problems. Can you oh
can you try opening it in Open Office? And I encourage and I'm
I encourage Eric not to use Microsoft products so I'm all
for it. And it opened fine and works perfectly in Open Office.
So I don't understand why it's an
egg would work in Microsoft because it's supposed to be
compatible. Oh, of
course it won't. Microsoft is just not compatible. They their
their job and you are you running eight?
I'm running seven.
Do you want to just try Open Office?
I don't know that I have open office on this on this Windows
machine because I tried to keep stuff off this machine because
it's a podcasting machine. Let me see really
does it have? Does it have a little sticker? Yes it does. And
podcasting machine only hands off. Um, while soon you will
have the ultimate podcast device and you will only need the
computer for spreadsheets.
Excel was able to open the file by repairing or removing the
unreadable content. Go ahead just say yes and still check
views listing rip
Do you mind if I do you mind if I just read the you're gonna
have to because I can't. Okay, why don't you find a sir Eric's
note of Minnesota knots apparently sent you an email or
no. I'll start though with Sir. David R. Foley, black Baron of
Silicon Valley who comes in with a very apropos $777.33 He knows
how to send us a message that's for sure. And he's from Los
Gatos, California in the morning, Adam, John please keep
that no agenda karma coming my way as my stock doubled after
your last dose. So we are happy to tell the Baron of Silicon
Valley to bend over because here comes another dose of karma.
You've got karma. That is fantastic as a measure of
support for the program. Then we have sir Eric of Minnesota knots
who I believe this was meant for. I'm saying ain't
gonna say the fourth he wanted to get it in, but it just showed
up at the post office box on Saturday
five, so he does five to 774. But I'm gonna give him five to
eight club member. Because if you round it up, it's five to
eight. And you have a note from him.
Yeah, he says, Here's some money. Right. That's it. And
Bob, by the way, I want to mention this. He's actually
somewhat famous and where are you where he's from? But what he
did was he is a very cute little letter and it's got a seal. You
use the no agenda. Oh, our ceiling, our ceiling, the
envelope and then inside and his little note, he's got the seal
again. Really? That's cool. He's using that wax.
I think I use my wax up pretty quick. I did that for a while.
Okay, I'm gonna put my signet ring in there. Perfect. Sir Mark
Dytham of Tokyo. Of course, we have Sir Mark and de mastered
who have been longtime supporters of the show. Both of
them are extremely famous in, in in Japan. And Sir Mark says,
What can we say you are already the only news source we listen
to. We just cannot bear to listen to anything else. I'm
doing my sums. He's British. It looks like I can proudly call
myself Baron of Tokyo territory will happily be the slave under
the Viscountess Astrid of Tokyo. Needless to say, I need to
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and we'll start by donating $333.33 today. I was in Beijing
Friday night. Did you see the note with the with the bottle?
I just need to know what the bottle is. I was thinking
of slipping this bottle of Chateau Latour. 1981 into a bag
for John to auction off. However, it was a six liter
bottle. This thing was beautiful that it was opened. The cork was
off and people were drinking it.
Yeah, well, six liter bottle is a Imperial.
Right. That's got to be an $8,000 bottle of wine.
There's anyone Latour. Yeah, more? No, it's a six litre of AD
when the tours probably say probably about $1,000 at
least as we ended up. Okay, so 6000 Big deal.
All adds up.
He says we ended up drinking it. The whole bottle. Yeah. That's
that's that's our audience. I love it. Good to see Sir Mark.
Oh, hello. Damien Rothschild
apparently is the Baron of Tokyo.
Welcome to Tokyo which I own and as you said hello to VI counters
damn Astrid. If you don't you clap you and irons. Love you. I
love you guys. We'll make sure we we attach the proper title to
you, Baron of Tokyo. That's great.
You know, I'm thinking that if Eric, what you just did, he sent
me the XLS file. Yeah. Because with these open office systems,
all these other ones. They I think that perfect works fine
words because the Microsoft is really screwed with things with
this x thing? Yeah, because they did it with Doc x, which I still
moan and groan about. Okay, so he's got the I got the thing
now. You all good? Well, not really. Because I have David
Foley at the top HW Smith and Dame Francine Hardaway he sent
me the last week's or
that's not the right one.
That's 526 Eric That's not what's okay.
I will continue to work things out. John Reichert. I think it
is ri ch er T from New Orleans. This is also a 33333 donation.
This should put me overnight level could use some heartbreak
karma ha Are there any New Orleans area female listeners
out there looking for love from a night? Jesus? That's sad he
adds to his note. Well, John, we will be knighting you today and
I would just have to use my regular line which is send
pictures we'll see if we can hook Yep. They're in in New
Orleans and a little bit of heartbreak karma for you. You've
got karma sir Dr. Sharkey is back once again. He is really on
a roll and in fact today's donation of 3333 three shouldn't
bring him up to a barren he'd like to be barren sir Dr.
Sharkey, protector of the Great Smoky Mountains. Oh, cool. I
think that's possible. That's fine. And he wants to know why
the
Smoky Mountains are smoky. No, there's so many pine trees in
the area and it gets gets a kind of a hot humidity. That smoke of
the Great Smoky Mountain is all pollution from evaporating pine
tar liquids. Uh, terpenes mostly that get into this make this
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while he showed me the barren of the Great's protector of the
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hears the sonic boom then the Hellfire is already up his butt.
You know now that you mentioned because it's caught off.
There are so many things we miss that people point out I have
no that's that was it? I would say that that's a that's a mia
culpa. Error on our practice would be 600 something miles an
hour the booms going to arrive long after the thing hits.
Yeah, that's that's really dumb that we missed that one.
Yeah, I
don't know that. Isn't that annoying when that happens? I
got I got another correction. We have to talk. We'll do that in a
second first week. And so Bubba will be an Associate Executive
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Appreciate that. And since you're in the first time, I want
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Yeah, no the best. It's yeah, it's good to have them on our
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Miss Mickey is doing everything in her power to get us over to
Tokyo.
She should be able to manage that. Now I said,
you know, if you have if you can get a gallery to show you know,
then yeah, then we'll go over. I mean, we don't have like, just
money to go cat galavanting
over there. Yeah, it's an expensive operation. I mean,
other parts of Japan, which are nicer to Tokyo is not that I
don't like Tokyo at all. I think it's too crowded. It's too, too
big.
I've never been there. I've never been so it's kind of I
have to go see it, you know. And Mickey lived in Nagasaki for
five years. So she wants to show me Nagasaki, which sounds like
it's kind of a dynamite place.
Well, Kyoto and Sapporo are the places that most Americans like
that's where the beer comes from.
Maybe named after it. All right. We want to thank all these
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Very nice. Yeah.
So there's a couple of things going on. Just kind of on the
side here. I have a clip that I want to play because I'm going
to be some reference to it later. But I just you know the
ever since that guy that the blimey character Binney, that
was the NSA whistleblower from some time ago.
This is the stellar winds guy.
Being a bi N anyway. Yeah, this is something else
wasn't he? The guy who ran it on the stellar when he look it up?
I don't worry about it. Right. No one cares doesn't anyway,
but anyway, we had it on he gave me he he's going around giving
speeches and he talks about he turned whistleblower on 2000
When he has something to do Oh, illegal spying on the public.
Same thing is going on now. Yeah. So I mean, these guys know
what the law is. And they see it being broken and they blow the
whistle and they get, you know, thrown in jail by the FBI. I
want to play this a long clip. But this is a rundown because
we're here in the US of people who have been following this
worldwide. very notorious criminal name Whitey Bolger was
arrested about a year or so ago in after he went on the run. He
was running most of the mob action in Boston, and he's the
main he's the character that was played by Jack Nicholson in the
movie departed. And he was involved with the FBI as a
supposedly an informant, which he denies but he was an
informant, an FBI, two FBI guys were indicted for being corrupt.
But it's it seems to me to be deeper than that when it comes
to the FBI. And the reason I bring this up is because it's
Binney, who says the one mistake he made as a whistleblower was
talking to the FBI, because essentially they railroaded him
into something that ended up him being indicted for for espionage
or whatever. But this this FBI story, I think, really, the FBI
needs to be called out when this reporter discusses the
operations, especially the Boston group like this, they
should be ashamed of themselves. Why do you Bolger are from the
wrong side of the tracks that criminals themselves. There was
a corrupt FBI agent named John Morris, who just spent a few
days on the stand. And these are nefarious people, and
particularly the Hitman John Maharana, who was up there for
several days. I described one of my columns that after the first
two days of his testimony, we were hit by punishing rains. He
is such a venial, venal and vile man who's admitted to murdering
20 people that it was almost as if there was a higher power that
needed to wash us of our having to listen to this guy. But I
think the most powerful testimony over the last two
weeks have come from ordinary people. Because there was a myth
that the government particularly the FBI, and the justice
department wanted you except when it came to Whitey Bolger is
that he only killed other criminals. Well, that died on
waterfront of South Boston with a man named Michael Donahue in
1982. And his family has been in court every day for the last few
weeks. And yesterday, John Morris that corrupt FBI agent
who helped get Michael Donahue murdered, turn to the family and
apologize to them. Now that murder happened 31 years ago,
and this is the first time anyone remotely connected to
this government has apologized to the Donahue family. As Pat
Donohue, Michael's widow, who raised three boys on her own
after her husband was murdered with FBI complicity. As she said
to me, it's a little late for an apology. But and the but if you
look at the W family, the way they have been dragged through
the mud by their own government, the idea that the FBI got their
their husband and their father killed is one thing, but the
Justice Department refused to apologize to them refused to
settle with them, drag them through nine years of
litigation. And so to see that apology in the court was one of
the most emotional moments and it really had nothing to do with
testimony. It really wasn't evidence, it was just a sign of
emotion and humanity in a place where that has been sorely
lacking.
Now, you're gonna have to explain this to me because I
kind of lost the plot on it.
Well, the FBI was in bed with bolger's the problem, okay. And
they did it because Bolger had convinced them and the movie
pretty much discusses most of this. They he convinced the FBI
that he can get a bigger fish at by convincing them that he was
not a big fish, but he was a great, you're going to be a
great informant for them. And that's what he did. So he got
what he managed to do is use the FBI to get rid of his enemy.
This is not dissimilar for what's going on with the Sinaloa
Cartel, by the way, right now, as we speak. We're in bed with
the Sinaloa Cartel thinking we got some something going on. We
got it over them. But anyway, Bolger was an extremely
intelligent character using the FBI. And he managed to use the
FBI, this guy that was murdered, the citizen was going to be
like, I forget what his basis for Bolger winning in dead but
the FBI essentially set it up. And then once it was discovered,
some years back that the FBI was behind the murder of this
innocent civilian, the family went to get some compensation,
and then the government went after them.
That sounds like America. And
it was just really a disgusting story that people should look
into. And then the FBI has never explained that the Justice
Department has never liked Eastlake, the reporter says they
never even have yet to apologize. They corrupt FBI guy
apologize on the stand. But because I guess he was getting
badgered by the prosecution. But whatever the case, it's just a
really a sad point that this sort of thing takes place. And I
think is going on now with the with the Sinaloa Cartel. We have
this dissents. There's a bunch of these law enforcement types
who have the sense that they're smarter than the bad guys.
Because the bad guys are under educated or whatever. But in
most cases they're not. And that this that kind of hubris that is
that's problematic. I would also
say that most of the recruiting for for the FBI and the CIA, and
many of the intelligence agencies are done at some of the
most prestigious universities in the country. And a lot of these
students are hyped up. I'm sure you've heard the NSA recruiters
going into universities trying, trying to get kids to buy into
their bullcrap. And they weren't having a Do you hear any of
this? No. Oh, geez. Everyone's heard this. I can't believe I
would have clipped it if I didn't know you hadn't heard it?
Well, I don't know that. I'd haven't heard it. But if Yeah,
no, I don't
have the clip. But the kids are basically, you know, they're
saying, Well, wait a minute, you're asking us to spy on
Americans like Well, no, no, we're not really hidden. But
there's really it's it's beautiful to listen to. But my
point being, that these recruiters come in, they make
you feel great. They make you this is what's the Matt Damon
movie that he wrote that he won the awards for?
Pouring conspiracy?
No, the first one that Matt and and Matt and Ben. Yeah. Yeah, I
can't remember the name of that one where they also he's genius.
He's a genius, genius. They everyone's blowing him to get
them to work for him. This is what happens and so the hubris
is built into the process. Like oh, yeah, I'm pretty quick. I'm
good. I should be working. I should have clearance. Get a
badge. Get some funky makeup shoot somebody you get like all
kinds of passes could challenge coins. I get a chance
to get that dough challenge going to oh, now by the way. Did
you get anybody out there who has one or can get one?
Did you get the NSA challenge coin?
Yeah, I did get that challenge. I was contacting the anonymous
person who sent it to me by the MSA
did it say W A wy?
On the note? This the same coin you have but I apparently
you got to note this A W A wy. Okay. Did you get a note that
said that?
Not that I remember. Interesting. And that's to go
get the coin. Anyway stands for
we are watching you
and have to go get the coin. It's funny though. Yeah. It's
hilarious. Yeah. They didn't get that coin on eBay for $14.95. So
Wow. Banks are gonna say contact has dried up.
The coin. i One is what's the name of the new guy, the
Secretary of Defense. What's his name?
Hilger. Hold hold. Yeah, it's dressed in. Dumbo? I know. I
know who you mean, I know who you mean, the Secretary of
Defense. Yeah.
You can't even get his name or typing it into Wikipedia.
What do you mean? Of course you can. No, I
mean, you Chuck Hagel.
That's what I said Hagel.
Who's the guy that's the head of the CIA then? Well, whatever we
either the CIA guy, the new CIA or Hegel, I think is Hegel. They
have their own challenge coin. is not as though it's like the
kind of the one you have with the signed some. Yeah, I get a
signature, but this one doesn't even say that what they're
doing. It's just their coin. I think we should have individual
coins. Uh, Adam curry challenge coin.
Yeah. Okay, that's we need more. We need more annoying things
that have to send through the mail. This is a great idea. I
can't do it. We're not gonna do it anyway. So just just throw it
out. Throw this stuff out. You should. We got an email from
some guy. Do you have the email? That guy says that he used to
work for Alec? And he believes
Yes. And I found this to be very interesting. So Alec stands for?
What is it? The abbreviation of it's the
American the legislature exchanged? Some
right and essentially, oh, again, there are Bill mill,
essentially what they do Bill mill is they Yeah, is they sit
around and they and they
wait for legislative exchange council,
right. They sit around and they wait for an opportunity where
they think they can deliver the goods to their members, which
are essentially large corporations. And then they
draft legislation and through their donations and their
systems and through lobbying. They get the legislation entered
enacted or you know, sometimes pass enacted a study by state,
state by state and he sent a note and said, Look, I used to
work for Alec and I think that you're onto something here with
this abortion legislation and being the same in all these
different states, including Texas and North Carolina. And
not only is the legislation eerily similar when it comes to
the the the level of sophistication the clinics will
have to have. But it was also introduced in a stealthy way
here in Texas in a special session, which is weird,
certainly for something as controversial as this and in
North Carolina was attached to some bill that was about banning
Sharia law. So it's kind of being introduced stealthily. And
I went and looked and lo and behold, this legislation called
the man I got it here. It's something like the the the right
the something about the clinics is was written for Republicans
to introduce. And and you know, my theory is Yeah, because
somehow the next step is to figure out how how to use public
funds for it to give to the insurance companies or to
Medicaid and it'll be a bonanza and your $500, abortion will go
to 5000. And you can just count out the money. It's going to be
huge.
It's about the money. So it turns out I have a clip. It
turns out that Alex has all kinds of
preborn pain act that's what it's called the pre pre born
pain act.
Alec is behind all the stuff that you do every single can
take photos. They're the Antifa they're the ones that are
working on legislation so you can't take photos of wrongdoing
especially in the in the food business.
Oh right. Well, you can take pictures of of cows being led to
slaughter and the chicken houses that kind of legislation.
Yeah, well here with let me play two clips and I'll play the Alec
clip. Yes, exactly. Play the first start with the Amy Myers
story.
Okay, do you need to lead in.
Now we had just a strip woman that was arrested for taking
photos and they'd luckily a bunch of social media got her
out of prison or out of out of jail
example of this of how toxic sunshine is, to this industry
into these bills is the first prosecution, which happened in
Utah. This was the first prosecution under any of this
legislation. A woman named Amy Meyer was charged for filming a
slaughterhouse from the public easement. She went to this place
because she knew abuse was happening, she heard that cows
were being pushed around by bulldozers, much like that
situation that led to the largest meat recall in US
history. So she had a reasonable interest in seeing what was
happening. I have a video I'll be putting up in the next couple
of days on my site. But it shows, you know, heavy equipment
using Moving the stick animals. And she was charged under this
legislation. And so I wrote an article about it, I put it up on
my own website. And within 24 hours, it was getting hundreds
of 1000s of views, went up on Reddit and brought the site down
because it was getting several 100 unique visitors a second for
several hours. So within 24 hours after this, it just made
the rounds everywhere. I know that word viral doesn't mean a
whole lot anymore. I think this legitimately went viral pretty
fast. The prosecutor was like we're gonna drop all the
charges. So think about what that reflects. I mean, this is
criminal activity up until the point people know what's going
on it get pissed off about it. And then it's Oh, no, no, no,
no, we didn't mean to do that. Amy Myers not going to be
prosecuted.
But this is tells me is that the guys are putting laws on the
books, just to screw with people. But if there isn't
enough people find out about it. There's such an outrage that
these guys back off real quick, which means these are really,
really sketchy laws that shouldn't even be on the books
and somehow some buddy rammed them through play this other
one, which is no photos of farmers.
Okay, stuck here moment. Sorry, here we
go closed doors. So the response to these damning investigations
by industry has not been to change animal welfare standards,
or to change the most abusive practices. It's meant to outlaw
the people who are exposing them. So last year, there were
10 Bill bills introduced that specifically criminalize
undercover investigations of factory farms and
slaughterhouses that include language, which I'll talk about
in a moment, a moment about banning foot photography,
banning videotape, and enhanced criminal penalties for that.
There's actually passed in several states in Iowa, Utah and
Missouri, which are green on this map here. Yeah, we've
talked about that a couple of times. Alright, so now play a
clip. Y'all heard
of ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council,
it's kind of a kind of a well known group, especially in
conferences like this. Alec in 2003, drafted a piece of model
legislation called the animal and ecological Terrorism Act.
And Alec, for those of you who don't know, it's a corporate
front group. And the way it operates is corporations give
10s of 1000s of dollars to the organization. And in exchange
for that they get a seat at the table in drafting model
legislation. And then those model bills are taken back by
state lawmakers around the country and introduce where
their colleagues have no idea that they're actually written by
Pfizer, Wyatt GlaxoSmithKline. And its association exactly what
Santo and Ron the union busting bills in Wisconsin, where Alec
the standard ground bills in Florida. So this animal and
ecological Terrorism Act was written by these industries. And
the model bill includes things like undercover investigations.
It also includes really dangerous language about
materially or financially supporting people who are doing
things like this in order to encourage plan, prepare, carry
out, publicize or promote these activities. This kind of
material support language is not just about undercover
investigators. It's not just about arsonists, or the Animal
Liberation Front. It's about people like us, I mean, that
make absolutely no mistake about the intent of this language.
It's about people who are sharing this information online
and writing about it and people like me who are speaking out in
defense of political prisoners. This all has to be viewed in
this post 911 context. This is from a Freedom of Information
Act document obtained from the FBI that says the bureau was
actually considering terrorism prosecutions against undercover
investigators as far back as 2003. This was even before new
legislation called the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act was
passed. Again, this isn't about property destruction. It's not
about arson is about people taking photographs. This is from
another FOIA request. These were presentations given by the FBI
to new FBI special agents. This is one page on animal rights and
Echo activists, and notice the emphasis on information about
them being engaged in a public relations war, how media is
vital to every part of their campaigns. God forbid media
sometimes is even slanted in their favor. And sometimes they
use celebrities. This rhetoric, in addition to being a top FBI
priority of terrorism threat, it's also been embraced by
corporations and of course, politicians, when that meat
recall happened in California, and soon after, another
investigation shut down a slaughterhouse. The industry put
pressure on local lawmakers, members of Congress, who in turn
sent a letter to the USDA, in which they said undercover
investigations were an act of quote, economic terrorism.
Okay, help me understand it so far, it sounds pretty much like
the American way. I'm not quite sure how the FBI gets sucked
into this.
I don't know how they got sucked into it either. But apparently,
the these guys have put together packages these industry industry
guys have put together these packages. And they make such a
this is lobbyists. Yeah. And they make such a fuss that the
legislative branch of the government tells the FBI or
gives them a clip, you know, they'd like to arrest everyone
says, Look, this is terrorism. And they make the argument that
it's terrorism. These guys and these are the various angles.
This guy came onto our facility at posing as a as a worker, and
all he did was take pictures, and then he exposed us. This is
terrorism. He's they're terrorizing they're hurting
business. They're hurting the bottom line. And now we take it
to another extreme, which is the one that really bothers me. Oh,
did you read this that these guys wrote? They wrote in
defense of this guy who was working for us taking pictures
and making us look bad to he's he's a terrorist is this writer?
Yeah, seriously, this is where this is all headed. Yes. And
ALEC is and you brought this you discovered this by bringing up
the abortion deal. And then having the our guy come in with
the aleck note notation which I forgot all about Alec. Yeah, me
too. And then I coincidentally listening to C span caught this
little Alec clip. And I'm thinking this is this needs to
be exposed. This is horrible.
But a lot of people are trying to expose Alec I think that's
pretty futile because it is it is the biggest companies on
board makes me kind of laugh. Is that it? In many ways it plays
right into what people actually want and the end their anger and
outrage is being used to get what they think they want. And
let me elaborate. Oh, man, we had so we had another dinner
with one of our average first or before after dinner. It's a part
of it. Okay, it's a part of the dinner. We will wrap it up.
Yeah, the reason why. Okay, so I'm going to jump around in the
dinner. There were two so this is the Obama bought dinners that
we have which are turning out to be this our table mates are
moving away from Obama botanists and I've got to be careful
because you know, once they're converted will be no more fun.
And why cuz dad? Got three, isn't it this group? test group
three,
this is the original group to the test group. Yes, this is
test specimens A, we have a Lorien mark. And then we have
Ross and his wife, Jennifer and Russia will recall is the
professor of brain shit here at University of Texas. He's a he's
a brain professor. Now he's, I guess technically his boss, the
chair of the Psychology Department of University of
Texas joined our group. And by the way, how cool is this? That
a drop out this jockey gets to argue with these people for
free? Like no tuition.
When you have to pay to argue and I get fed is great. Yeah.
Well, you you're doing the cooking this time? No, no, this
was a Lori's house. No, she did the cooking. Okay. Yeah. And now
we'll we'll talk about Jamie Pennebaker later because Jamie
is the performative guy. He's about the you know, he's the
secret life of pronouns, the performance, and we heard his
his tape and I got to talk to him about that. His wife is Ruth
Pennebaker. She has written wow, I think five or six books that
have been published. She's written extensively for the New
York Times a lot in the Art section, but she's a I can I can
say she is a very outspoken feminist. And to give you an
idea, she was she's very much. She talks like a Hummer, like a
Berkeley Hummer. In fact, she has that New York Times kind of
cadence to her. What's interesting about you, what in
the milieu Yes, indeed. What's interesting about Ruth is that
she not only she blogged but she was at the protest and I think
she was arrested. Because she had a coat hanger. Now, Ruth, I
don't know how old she is, and I don't care to guess, but I will
say that she is at least two years older than I am. So that
would put her at a minimum of 50. And, and I was not about for
single minute going to really get into my, my personal
feelings about this issue. Because I think I probably would
have ruined the night at the get go towards Marino, you
have to I, I admire your ability to manage this, because I tend
to in these situations, I just I just clam up. I'm the worst guy
to be at this thing.
Well, I had done a lot of homework, I had read their
books. I had read it, you know, I'd read his book, or read her
book, or at least one, you know, her columns. So I already knew
kind of what I was getting into. And you can't walk into these
situations. And think that because people don't listen,
this is the main thing. And it became true. I don't think she
really heard me. When I did lay down my, my smack on her. I
said, Oh, you know, I think this is great, because I've been
following this. And it looks to me, like, you know, this 20
pages of legislation about the about the clinics. And by the
way, she had not read the bill. I will point that out. It's
like, Oh, that's interesting. You went to protest something
you had not read? She? Did you wear an orange t shirt? Yeah,
where did it come from? I don't know, someone's handing them
out. The Planned Parenthood, who was handed to us need to know
these things. Because it's, it's a big money. Planned Parenthood
has an annual income of $155 million dollars, I checked their
form 990. So there's a lot of money involved in, in this
abortion business. And a lot of people want it for one reason or
the other. And I'm not so sure necessarily about protecting
unborn life or or protecting a woman's rights. I'm just not
convinced I don't, I've never seen any legislator really give
a shit about the citizenry, it's all about money. And I said, I
think it's going to be a bonanza, and they're setting it
up. And we've got this everywhere in the States. And
ALEC is the bill mill is writing this stuff. And it's gonna be
great poor women everywhere will be able to get abortions. It's
just it's gonna be $5,000 bill to the insurance and ultimately,
we'll all pay for it. And it's funny, it really didn't even
register. I could see it was just kind of flying by. But
here's what I learned. Almost no one at this protest was under
50. Now, what's wrong with that?
Yeah. Is that like they're having babies? Thank you.
And I kind of probed the little bit and I said, I'm nowhere in
the bill, which I actually read, does it this is later during the
dinner, not off the bat. I said, I read the bill. And I had all
these requirements. But yeah, that's gonna make it all these.
All these clinics shut down. I said, How do you know? Well,
this fact. Oh, you're accepting the math. We don't actually know
the calculation. Yeah, and I went looking, John, I cannot
find I see. Graphics, I see maps, I see maps with pinpoints
and flashing lights, and you see, you can use you like 50.
And then they all go away. And it's only six left as like,
okay. But yeah, and then, you know, this was designed to shut
down clinics. No, it was designed to if you'd look at it,
and this is what I love with professors at the table. And by
the way, Mr. Pennebaker had listened to some of our show,
and he loves it. He's like, Oh, you guys are great. I love this.
Because he actually said, You're fucking great. I love this shit.
He believes that when people use swear words, they're more
honest. So I think he uses them a lot. Just gratuitously more
than most people not gratuitously but when he really
wants to accentuate a point he says it comes across he's an
expert, he's a linguist, he's people you're more believable if
you use swear words. I'm just a point a small point I want to
throw out there but when you're talking to a scientist it's very
it's great because now I've learned you can say Oh, really?
Do you have the calculation? No said Well, it's actually not in
the bill it nowhere does it say this bill intends to shut down
clinics. So you are just making a you are, you are regurgitating
talking points of which you have no scientific or mathematical
fact. Have you ever seen a professor Shut up? Because you
just said something like that?
Well, if you say something like that, and it's true, they would
shut up now and
then of course Ross the brain professor. He hands me this
article about the eat right for your blood type. Oh, man, I'm
totally shut down on that. Oh, I destroyed it.
Well, I didn't think
nothing about the whole backs everything is wrong about it.
The whole backstory, everything and he like he must have worked
for you know, a week on researching these. I'm gonna get
this curry I don't care. I'm gonna find it. No. And he has. I
put it in the show notes. So I'm pretty sure that that was a
placebo effect. But ultimately, yeah, don't don't eat grains,
you'll be healthier. That's for sure.
Yeah, yeah, that's I think, absolutely true. So
the main thing is, and this kind of, to bring it back to ALEC, is
that there's big money involved in this particular legislation.
And I, look, we put in God, we trust on our money here in
America, okay, there's a reason for that the money is bigger
than God, I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. And then when I'm
seeing all the money that is being spent, by the way, Wendy
Davis, who is now being heralded as the rising political star who
has been born, I looked at her funding, and you know, it's
$500,000. From this law firm, it's all these law firms that
are expert at suing the government. And they have, they
have essentially financed a lot of what she's been doing in the
past, in the past year. So there's a lot of interest in
this. And again, I thoroughly believe that it's all going to
come down to something that is really going to be Republican
led, that will be the joke of it all Republican led, and it will
bring in some kind of financing for abortions. And really, we're
not, we're talking about a very small amount of actual vaginal
abortions. Most of this is ru 486. It's a pill it goes in, you
know, two weeks later, everything's done. It's
relatively safe. It's highly controversial, but it's been
around for a long time. I don't think it's in patent anymore.
And that's what we're really talking about. And it's right
now it's 500 bucks, that's too cheap. You can't really do
anything with that needs to be 5000. And that
is the same thing with a lot of these manufacturing chemists.
Yes, with the compounders a drug for the person customized at the
manufacturers, but it's too cheap. Yeah, no good. Like why
should we be selling anyone drugs that they need to survive
for like, five bucks a month? Don't do that himself for 2000 a
month? Don't do that. This is no good.
No, let's just gouge the public. Especially when that when it's
when it's kind of a cap, captive market just gouge them gouge
gouged out and also
rate but then here, but here's what the big tip off John. It's
not actually the women who need these abortions who were
protesting. So what does that tell you? And this is the
discussion we got and rigged. Well, it's worse than that. And
because I did lay a little bit of because Jennifer who was
there and now she's protested this before not this particular
time, but she's pregnant. And she's really really angry. You
know, this whole Get out of my vagina thing. What are you doing
in my womb, and you and I can feel a a huge surge of emotion
that's funneled that's channeled into this. But it's a lot a lot
more, you know, it's just you know, people are crazy these
days. They're angry, they're upset, they're pressured by all
kinds of things. But it's a trigger. And I think this is a
long this is kind of the Republican version or maybe it's
all Democrat. I don't know who gives a crap which one it is.
This is only about getting your vote. It's about getting your
vote, just like the gun issue. And and it's about getting the
the upper middle aged woman's vote. I don't think it's about
anything else. And it's an to realize this bill is not really
forbidding anything. There's no real change. You're listening to
talking points and you're getting riled up and you're
getting angry and then you're walking around with coat hangers
and you're not you don't you never even tend to get pregnant
anymore. Do you see that you're being manipulated all men all
that that got everyone into a tizzy.
Once you said that,
yes. I had to. I had to
just but it was late in the meal. Yes. This way.
Yes. This was much later in the meal. Oh, God, I had everyone.
Oh my god, that was alright. It was alright. But it was a little
tan. I
bet you there's high fives and some PR agency as we speak.
Curry data? Yeah. Oh, no. Now, you know, I'm talking about over
this event.
Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, totally, totally. And if you look at the
the people involved, it's, I mean, wow, Cecile Richards, who
was an Richard's daughter, and Richards, who was here before
George W. Texas was run by Democrats, you'd be, you'd be
amazed to know. And she makes half a million dollars at this
Planned Parenthood thing. It's a big operation. And there's all
kinds of all kinds of things going on with this. But I really
have to say it is manipulation of people, getting them using
their, their utmost fears and desires and angers and man you
can get you can get women really, really angry about this
issue very easily. And you can't you can't just say well, I think
X Y or Z certainly not as a guy, because then I was Then you're
just shit. No Did she she you can actually get beat up over
this you have to be very, very careful. So I come back from the
front saying it was not a pretty pretty sight. I do need to bring
you some more reports from this dinner because there were some
other interesting things we discussed a particularly with
Professor Pennebaker who I was, you know, you kind of eased into
it, kinda let them know that I'd read his book. And I said, you
know, this performance that was really quite, quite fantastic.
And he's just launched into it. He told everything. No one knew
what I was talking about except Mickey. And then so he explained
explains performative. And for those who don't know, it's where
typically a politician will say things like, let me be clear.
And then whatever he says after that doesn't matter, because he
already told the truth, because he just wanted to be clear,
didn't want to tell you the truth. He was just you
wanted to be clear, my favorite while I was thinking about this
the other day, and I realized the Kennedys had had a distinct
one that caught on for a while, and then it kind of dropped off.
And it's Ted Kennedy used it but John Kennedy used to say it all
the time. And it was this. Let me say this, about that. That's
the best one right. I think that's the best one. This about
that. Yeah, that's a good way this about that. But what you're
gonna say next is like could be anything?
Well, here's I'll just give you an example. A recent one from
Stephen Harper of the Canadians.
And the prime minister is also defending his actions following
new revelations in the Senate expenses scandal. Here's what he
had to say when asked about the payment between his former Chief
of Staff Nigel Wright and conservative Senator Mike Duffy.
First of all, let me be very clear on this I've been clear
clear repeatedly I
double whammy. I've been clear repeatedly let me be clear about
this learned of this on May the 15th. This I learned of this May
that it just doesn't stop. It's all performances I learned of
this. I made this information available to the public people
of Canada. So that's basically what it is. And then I later I
forget who it was one of our producers said the presidential
oath is essentially the biggest performative because it says I
hear Dubai solemnly swear that to the best of my ability, like
okay, thanks. Good night, go home. Doesn't matter what you
say, after that. Pennebaker. I thought he was going to shit
himself. He's like, Oh, my God, I never thought of that one. So
now I'm on the inside right now. I'm like, Hey, this is good.
Tell me some more. He's, and he's so I want to get into his
research, which hasn't been published yet. And he has
computer programs, and he does a lot with pronouns. So he has
computer programs that calculate the use of certain words, but
it's the words like I am, we are, that they're they these
types of things. And he has several proven theorems that
that he can point to. And the first thing he told me about
was, you can also see if, if a right if a writer was male or
female. And he's done some very interesting studies, to see how
good playwrights were at writing male or female characters, etc.
And just to give you an example, all of the female characters in
Quentin Tarantino movies are extremely written as extreme
males. So are those of Shakespeare. And he has studied
all the American presidents and he said about Barack Obama, he
said, is unbelievable. to every single American president is
100% Macho male, Barack Obama could not be more female. He
says, it's like a woman is writing his stuff. I said,
Valerie Jarrett, he didn't get it. But no, but he says, the way
he the show, the way he the way the President talks, speaks,
it's all very soft, a little wishy washy, he says it but he's
doing it with scientific with, with word counts. And yeah,
there are a lot of there's actually a bunch of computer
programs that attempt to do this, and you can run, I've run
professional writers copy through a bunch of these
systems. And you can find, you can, you can always spot a
female writer of, but you can, you can see them trending to
female. Most professional writers are all trained
similarly, so that the female in this come from a professional
professionals have a professional style that they've
developed from training and editing. And they tend to be
kind of mostly, if not all male, even if they're women, and
there's normal people that just right away, they're just writing
naturally. They I think it's easier with them. I think it's
harder with professionals, he
Well, of course, if a professional is trying to you
know, a great writer can write a woman's character the way a
woman thinks, you know, I think that that would be the hallmark
of a great writer.
I don't think so. I don't think that's the hallmark of a great
writer being able to become a woman.
No.
Okay, you're I'm not even sure there are many great writers
have ever accomplished what you just said. Well,
he has done this exact study. You Yeah, what
great writers have done it? Well,
I don't I don't have that information handy. But if you
look at, it doesn't I would say that it's, it may be challenging
to write like a woman if you don't know what you're doing to
actually write from a female's perspective and to, for it to
come out in the computer analysis as a woman, but
sometimes it may not be necessary. Ergo Quentin
Tarantino is characters, his female characters are all
extremely male, and his movies seem to do fine. So it's just
it's just the point that you can distinguish between men and
women in the writing in general. Is that fair?
I'd say it's, it's partially true. I think, if you want to
make the argument, I'm not gonna argue against it. But it's still
you know, it's what his research shows and his roster. He's
probably coming up with that, but I don't know if he's
studying just professionals. You study. No, no, no,
no, no, no, not at all. No, no, in fact, far from it. And the
reason why he does this is is the ultimate reason is to see
that if you he's all about writing certain things if you
had traumatic experiences, and you can actually heal yourself.
So his, this is all just side research, which by the way, is
now going to Bing This is very interesting, because that's,
these guys all got consulting gigs. It's very interesting. So
Bing, looks like the search engine is going to be looking at
some some fun things, the way things are written, but of
course, you know, these guys are vibing on Twitter and, and all
this these incredible datasets that we have. And what he's done
is he said if you go and look at the pronouns, particularly the
use of AI words that every single president has used before
warfare, in speeches, etc. You can see that right before they
are about to attack or do something their use of AI goes
down significantly said George W with Iraq senior with the with
the first Gulf War, Nixon, I mean, that he's gone back and
studied that and, and I said, rolled How about Obama says, Now
we haven't really done that research. So we have to
bet she's gonna find that little country Miss there. Because if
you remember, we've spotted this. When the when they got Bin
Laden, it was I he's a very I or
rarely, or four. And this is where I'm going. It didn't
actually happen. No intention. It's all it's not it's Yeah,
that's actually a good one. That's the way I see it. And
he's done. So and that's kind of the reverse of the last piece of
information that I got from him. They studied the younger, Tsar
Neff, brothers tweets, you know, the the so called Boston bomber.
And so I like it. First of all, he said, Oh, we took the Boston
bomber. I said, I'm sorry, he hasn't actually been convicted
of anything. Oh, you know, the alleged Boston bomber said,
Yeah. And they studied his tweets going
with somebody to actually have to use the word alleged. Table.
Just said, each
is it professors is what's so great about it, you can do this
thought you can do it all night long. And so they took the
Tsarnaev brothers tweets, and his there are two things they
analyze the I word usage, which started to go down when his
older brother went back to Chechnya. But then when his
older brother came back, not only the I word usage stopped,
but the cognitive the word cognitive words, really dropped
off meaning according to the professor, meaning that they had
already made up their mind they were going to do something. And
I found this to be interesting, because neither you or I
necessarily believe that they were certainly solely
responsible for the Boston bombing. A lot has yet to be
proven. There's a lot of questions and sketchiness and
certainly no videotape as alleged. But it does feel like
perhaps they were involved in some kind of operation and
something was taking place. But it's not necessarily that I
wonder if he's going to submit this research. I'm wondering if
it's going to be used in court, which would be kind of funny.
Yeah, go on, because that brings up and another interesting thing
that I picked up off the C span in court using this sort of
thing in court. Well, let's,
let's go ahead, because I will, I'm about to wrap it up with a
document that I want to talk about. So if you got something
about this that
I thought this was kind of interesting, they had a bunch of
people on it was another one of these crazy little events. And
somebody brought this using NSA data in court. And I think that
this is maybe one of the reasons that the FBI and all these other
guys are freaked out about the Snowden revelations because they
don't need this situation, getting out of control where
it's gonna require, and I'll tell you where I think it's
gonna require after you play the clip,
a really interesting example from my work just on this topic
real fast is that in 2005, there A group of environmentalists
that were facing multiple life sentence sentences for property
destruction. And like these cases, the government was just
turning the screws and really threatening them with this. And
they were refusing to take any plea agreement. A handful of
these activists were including DANIEL MCGOWAN from New York.
And the defense attorneys filed a motion for any NSA
surveillance that was used. This was at the really the peak of
the Bush administration spy scandal, right? And the judge
agreed. And so it's just like, Wow, holy, holy crap, this is
That's amazing. This could throw out if that was used to throw
out the entire prosecutions. And then what happened is,
prosecutors have this amazing change of heart. And they agreed
to take the plea agreements without them snitching on their
friends in order to quash that motion. So we'll move forward.
And I say this, just because I think it's a really unique
element that not a lot of people know about. I have a very strong
suspicion that illegal surveillance is working its way
into many court cases. And there's a lot of pressure on
prosecutors and on the government to make sure the
extent to that isn't. Hey, Judge,
you know, it's
about Yeah, sure.
You're, you know, you're suing me over sophistry. I'm gonna get
discovery. And I'm going to say, well, while I'm at it, I'm going
to
get all your phone calls say
to get give me all that because they have them. Yeah, give me
all your the websites, the whole thing you give, I want to see
you I want to see your email once your websites, I want to
see what you visited. I want to see your go for it
before I forget. interesting data point. That, you know, the
professor works of course with his undergrads, right. And he
has them I'll do the all the experiments. They all were super
happy to give him emails, tweets, letters, anything to
analyze. When he said, Hey, I'd like to analyze your search
history. Everyone went Oh, no. Well, no one wanted to give him
that.
No, everybody's got sketchy stuff in their searches.
Exactly. Exactly. And the NSA has it all or Omniture, Adobe,
whoever has it all. Somebody's
got to and by the way, if you take any of that stuff out of
context, you have an answer.
We should do that. So I just read my you want to read your
search history? And I'll do mine. You
do too many searches? It really? Yeah, I
think it would be a wonderful journey into the mind of John C.
Dvorak. I would pay money for it, actually, how much? 10
bucks, the usual, the usual Motema $1.
I'll give you a fine $1. So anyway, so here's what's gonna
have to happen. It's like, almost a red book prediction.
Oh, which reminds me, great. They're going to have to make
this stuff, they're gonna have to do something legislatively to
prevent abuse of all this data that the NSA is collecting.
Because, I mean, if I'm a lawyer, I'm going after that
data on every case, I do. Oh,
can I this almost brings me to a natural segue into the snow job,
Snowden. I think I know where this is going to come down. All
right, once you go in that direction. Okay. And well, I
just want to make sure we will, we'll come back eventually to
this document. There's a new player on the scene in the snow
job. Now, there's a lot going on, and I'm happy to talk about
the bullcrap, flyovers that the Bolivian President was allowed
to fly and I can I can debunk all of that. But the new guy on
the scene now remember, his dad came out Snowdens dad came out
and said, Oh, you know what, and I meet this guy. There's not
even his dad. I'm like, I don't know what this guy is. He has
brought in a lawyer. And this is very interesting. The lawyer
that Lonnie has brought in is Bruce fine. Now Bruce fine. Is
this is this is no slouch. Key is a part of Lichfield and
Associates. Have you ever heard of this outfit?
Yeah, I have. As a matter of fact, this is
this is a huge, huge old school law firm. Their offices are at
Lichfield Cathedral. This is an unbelievable group. What? In
what context? Have you heard of Lichfield and Associates?
Sure. They're just a big giant firm. Right now, if
you look at their mission statement, and you can find that
at Lichfield, group.org,
a spelling Lichfield, Lima, India,
Charlie hotel, Foxtrot, India echo Lima Delta, list, field
group.org. Enduring statement of mission of the Lichfield group
by resolution feeding the world's hungry and preventing
global hunger. Yeah, okay. I know a lot of lawyers whose
mission statement is that whereas the Lichfield group is
an independent neutral and impartial organization whose
humanitarian mission is to provide food and aid to those in
need, and to supply them with the assistance in establishing
and ultimately maintaining their own self sustainability, blah,
blah, blah. We're like the International Red Cross. They
say, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What's going to happen is we're
going to have wiki wiki leaks on one side. And of course, they,
you know, now that MasterCard has said, oh, yeah, we're gonna
allow we're gonna let wiki leaks. process credit cards
again. Oh, How coincidental is that at this moment in time? And
why such a change of heart? I wonder
that we, I, we may have just not the company I was thinking of,
by the way, but I think we've discussed this group before and
I'm not if I'm not mistaken. They're out of the they're from
the like, the they're in the Oxfam category. They're in
England. Well, it's
also they've got big Israeli money behind them. This is huge
DC, like, I guess, you call neocon or, you know, this, this
is these guys have been around. And they are going to make some
kind of huge trouble. Because I think I think Snowden will come
back. I think he's going to give himself up, but only under some
kind of deal. And then we're going to have some kind of
lawsuit and I'm not sure exactly why this guy is not. You can't
retain this guy. If you're the you're Lonnie. Hi, I'm Lonnie.
I'm Edward Snowden is dead. Hi. Yeah. Hi, Bruce. I want to
retain you. No, that's not how it works. These guys are based
in Geneva. Yeah, that's why I called something big is going
down here. And I think it has it has everything to do with with
putting the screws to probably this administration is what I'm
guessing.
Well, everything that we've seen over the last week when it first
began when they started and we've said it a couple of times,
they're piling on Obama began they are relentless. And we
decided, I believe the two of us that about a month ago, when
once it had already begun, and now we started it was like we're
gonna eat you ever shot at getting rid of him now? Or
never. And so we have it's been relentless, relentless,
relentless, and I don't see that. They figured I think
somebody did a psychological profile of them the woman's side
of him, I guess. He's gonna crack.
Yeah, let me let me give you a little more extra or let me give
the the producers of the show a little more extra data. So we
had this Bolivian incident and, and this was essentially the
setup to rile up all of South America. Let me play this is
about a minute and a half of we have Bolivia, Venezuela,
Argentina. And by the way, the the Venezuelan President. He's
kind of like a, like a Devo safety dance hat on this very
interesting outfit he's wearing. And these are the them speaking
and translations. It's a little compilation of what they're
saying about the President and the United States of America.
See.
If necessary, we will close the US Embassy in Bolivia. We do not
need the US Embassy. We don't need this pretext of cooperation
and diplomatic relations. When they come to conspire from
within and from outside. The US Ambassador to Bolivia is gone.
The US Drug Enforcement Administration is gone. Surely
the CIA is infiltrated all over the place.
And now we go to Venezuela, my hand would not
tremble to shut down the US Embassy. We have dignity. We
have sovereignty. Without America. We are better off
politically and democratically
that was still liable Libyan advantage
gave the order to the authorities in these countries
and said Yun Snowden was on the plane with a CIA. According to
what has happened in Europe, the CIA is more powerful than the
government's. He's in charge in Europe. European governments and
their people are the CIA.
President, you President of Bolivia were held hostage for 13
hours. And now they're trying to explain all this saying it was
due to technical problems or feel problems.
Okay, so that was the three South American countries in a
row and very interesting how they're talking about the CIA
being infiltrated how America is shit, you know, and by the way
to the chair chat room. You're absolutely right. Devo did not
do safety dance. It was men without hats. And because that's
the only thing you care about, I'm logging off of the chat room
because you're idiots. You're not the only fact that can pick
up on. So, I mean, I just logged out. How stupid are you? Oh,
there was he was met with Red Hat. Alright. So there's clearly
and this is all Russian based Putin is sitting there laughing
at this because
Putin is having the time of his life. I wouldn't be surprised if
Putin this group didn't make themselves look like the CIA
pulling this off.
Well, let me tell you what happened. So the Bolivian
President had just had a meeting in Moscow, he's flying back from
Moscow, where, you know, they have a $5 billion deal with
Gazprom, which is Putin. They know what side of the bread is
buttered. And this whole like, oh, they were they were free or
they were not allowed to cross they were forced to land well,
here is the and if you look on the map, they they they tried to
land in Portugal, for fueling that Portugal Faro airport I
believe could not take them for technical reasons which is
highly possible that they had to divert but if you look at the
map and then circle around they go to Austria this is the the
tail numbers Fox Alpha Bravo 001 And I'm going to let you in a
little bit of pilot humor here as you listen to this force
landing in Austria.
001 Good evening. Information whiskey Okay, so that's the
tower saying Good evening, how you doing information whiskey,
which this is the that's the the current weather an atmosphere
conditions, expect this runway, how you doing?
You need any assistance. They need any assistance from
learning. So this is the Austrian flight controller
saying, Hey, do you guys need any assistance when you land?
You know, because we know that your presidential plane you need
anything anything we can do ice cream, you know, Twizzlers,
anything we can get for you. Not at this moment. Because we
cannot get a correct indication of indication. So now, let me
tell you a little bit of pilot humor. So what he said is no,
no, we don't need assistance, we need to land because we cannot
get a correct indication of our fuel level. Therefore, we need
to land as a precautionary measure. This is a $47 million
jet. Which you know, this is not like your fuel gauge in your
car. And it's not just one fuel gauge as multiple fuel gauge
fuel pressure fuel flow. This is very, very rare. In fact,
there's two things pilots use when they want to make an
unscheduled landing, because this was an unscheduled landing
that probably because Putin said Alright, here's what we're gonna
do. Firstly, I'm going to say that Anna Chapman wants to marry
Snowden that'll piss everybody off, then I want you guys to
pretend like you're being forced down. But he's not he is
requested to land. In the two things if you need to make an
unscheduled stop or some change that is not a part of your
flight plan. The two things you use are one. Oh, man, there's
something wrong with the fuel. We don't know. Because you he
didn't declare an emergency. You see, declaring an emergency is a
whole different level. He said no, no, as a precautionary
measure, we might have something wrong with the fuel. We want to
land. The other one which you use in smaller aircraft, and
every pilot will know this. You say? Yeah, we have passenger
who's sick? In other words, did you know that you got someone
puking in your cockpit and you want to land and you just want
to get them out because it smells a puke and you want to
stop? And though they're both usually lies. Because you just
want to convert to a different flight plan. You want to land
somewhere you were too lazy to file etc. To this does not jive
with. They were not allowed to enter airspace, they were
blocked. No, they they did it made an unscheduled stop. And it
was their request. And it was a lie that brought them down. But
this whole thing South America is I think what Putin is doing
is saying, Okay, you want to surround everything here. You
want all your rockets, you want to put everything here you want
it. You want Syria, you got your stuff in Poland, you got all of
North Africa, how about it get South America, all I'm waiting
for now is for Mexico to start saying something to us that we
had to put in the Red Book. Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico
next. This is cold war. And I think Did you hear Bolivia
Venezuela? And? And Argentina? This is like all of South
America is an upward Well, I think the Russians pretty much
have deals with all of those countries.
No, it's It's becoming quite funny to us. Now. What was the
point or was you think that this was Bogota of where they came?
And is searched the plane for supposedly for Snowden. But
there was the plane made maybe they just continued with the
ruse and had look, if they really had a fuel indicator
problem, then it can take quite a while to get someone out to
look knows this Trident jet and knows how to look at the fuel
indicator you you kind of have to keep the roof going whatever.
But they asked if they needed assistance. This is not a forced
landing. This is not like so I'm checking. This is all all a lie.
None of it is true. None of it. There is no evidence other than
that, you know, the analysis is interesting because if you
listen to the State Department, I have a clip. Oh, good. But
they were jumping all over. That was it was Jen. That was the
spokesman. I have other clips.
I've listened to her a couple of times. And I can't believe that
the press corps doesn't shoot her.
Yeah, no, she is condescending. Oh, she's much worse than our
other girl than Newland. Yeah, she is so condescending. I don't
have these clips because I didn't produce them. I may put
them together later. Because it takes a little production. She
is especially to Matt Lee. This is our failures. Our guy is our
guy Matt. Yeah. Matt. And so Matt from AP he's been on are
constantly and she's always going. She's like big nurse and
they One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Well, Matt, I know you'd
like to think that. I know you'd like not to fact and we're not
going to talk.
And Matt is also always saying like, well, before you say the
fluid is the situation is fluid, and we don't address yet he's
always giving her crap about her bull crap. It's hilarious. But I
haven't been able to find enough to clip from you clearly got
a clip of her saying that oh, well, you know, it's not, we
can't tell you which essentially, is a clip of her
saying we can't talk about anything. But they got on the
case about this, about this plane and all the crap that went
on. She seemed she seemed as though she was either unaware of
from your perspective of what you say is true, or what you
your thesis, say your thesis data
I have? I mean, she does not
have any of this at all. I mean,
that you're taking one side over the other. Go ahead.
system, the US have any role in encouraging Western European
countries to block the flight of the Bolivian President
yesterday. Was there any communication between the US and
those countries?
Well, as you know, because we've talked about it quite a bit in
here. The US has been in touch the United States, I should say
officials have been in touch with a broad range of countries
over the world. Was
that about the United States? Yes. No, no, no, no, no, she
says something else. It says the US or I mean, the United States,
I should say, yeah, no,
I heard that. analyzer says the US it's just the United States
officials? I do not know. Okay, that was weird. I will not get
it that was in those countries?
Well, has, you know, because we've talked about it quite a
bit in here. The US has been in touch the United States, I
should say officials have been in touch with a broad range of
countries over the course of the last 10 days. And we haven't I
haven't listed those countries. I'm certainly not going to do
that today. Our position on Mr. Snowden has also been crystal
clear in terms of what we want to happen. And that message has
been communicated both publicly and privately and a range of
these conversations we've had with countries. And let me just
repeat he's been accused of leaking classified information.
He's been charged with three felony counts and should be
returned to the United States. I don't know that any country
doesn't think that that is what the United States would like to
happen. The public many, the public. But decision made, you
know, over the course of the last week or so whether they're
public comments about whether or not they'll accept asylum as
asylum request, or whether it's closing airspace are decisions
made by individual countries. And I would point you to them
to, to describe why they made decisions if they made
decisions. And I know there's already been a range of public
comments out there.
There's been a great deal of criticism, though, from Latin
American leaders about the decision, not least because
Snowden doesn't appear to have been on board. You don't sound
like you're denying that there were conversations about this. I
mean, they number of Latin American leaders today has
specifically criticized the US for intervening in the
diplomatic flight. Are you are you are you am I right? And
understand that you're not denying there were conversations
about
I'm not going to get into diplomatic conversations that
happened over the past 10 days and which countries they were
with but I would point you to the countries that you're
referring to and ask you to ask them about decisions that were
made
and I just got a little extra new piece of information in that
they And the aircraft also made a refueling stop at Las Palmas
airport, which I think is Canary Islands, where they only took on
3100 kilos of fuel, which is about a third, you know, just
about enough to run out. Or to refuel somewhere else, this
thing. And by the way, that clip, which I had, I saw that
whole piece, I was thinking about it. I realized it's better
when you can see her annoying head.
Oh, it's so funny. You have to kind of, cuz she's got to.
Yeah, you have to kind of see the face when she doesn't really
know.
Actually, she doesn't. If you just listen to her audio, it's a
lot different than if you watch her. Yeah, no, because it's just
like this. It's like you idiots. I don't She's a very Hillary
style. Yes. Well, I think she was obviously hired by Hillary
during that era. But we should we
should look into her background. I have not done that. I know
that she that Jin Woo because you know, Victoria moved on.
Right. She's up. She's now she's on the plane. She's She flies
with Carrie. And she's, you know, she's a she's a muckety
muck Now, which of course she wants to be because she is in
the elitist circle with her husband there. But this whole
thing is, and you can hear her really having nothing to say
about it. There was no call. There's no there's nothing went
out this distance. It is theater. It is one big theater.
I'm telling you. I don't think she'd had a clue. It knows. No,
she
has no idea because it didn't happen that way. He just didn't
have this as a UN. It's so hard. We don't catch these things
quite quick enough. We need to find out where did this come
from first, who was the first to report this atrocity? I'm pretty
sure it came from source Arceus RT Yeah, exactly. R T. Maybe the
first
clip I saw that was our tea. Yeah. I'm telling you, these
guys are making fools of our people.
Yeah, well, there's two things you can do a shut our tea down,
get them off, or that's what I would do or be higher the curry
Devorah Consulting Group and give us a channel. Give us give
us MSNBC.
I think what you want to do is you want to create a I don't
know. Yeah, MSNBC, B, please, we could be great with it, you got
to get rid of some of these guys like Schultz saw. I mean, he's
not doing anybody a favor. Oh, okay to spy on the American
public because terrorists are involved. I don't even know what
the right
way to go. And the funny thing, and I'm in the midst of all of
this is to go after the Russians. And the New York Times
is for some reason they got left out. I'm not quite sure why. But
the New York Times didn't get it didn't get a seat at this table
for this, this grand game, this, you know, this whole, the
leaking of the of the documents, and they're just not a part of
it. In fact, there's a pretty good article in the Times about
the FISA court, the Foreign Intelligence Service Act courts,
and how they created this huge body of legislation that
actually enables under the special circumstances clause
enables this type of large surveillance, and it is the same
clause that is used for sobriety checkpoints for airport
security. And what you're seeing is the so called slippery slope,
you know, it's mud and we're down, we're, we're headed on the
way down, and there's no stopping it. Because we allowed
all this to happen, even though lots of people are saying, Hey,
don't do this. The rest of the fools are like, oh, I want to be
safe. And we're only getting more of that. We're only getting
more of that. Yeah, I agree. And this, and maybe I should just
finish with, with a document that that Professor Russell get,
and Professor Ross gave to me, because I put this in the show
notes. And this is something you have to see to believe in 1987.
So Russ is near one of our dinner group. And, and we were
talking about what is, you know, it was part of the manipulation
thing, like, you know, people get freaked out about all the
wrong things, and you're probably worried that you're
gonna get shot by some white psycho in the shopping mall, or
the movies were really the likelihood of that is less than
getting struck by lightning, you have more chance of dying by
driving home tonight, etc. And of course, you know, this, this
becomes a conversation and there was an email thread the next
day. And Ross ends because he's, uh, you know, he's, he's a brain
scientist. So they, he knows all the research on this stuff. And
let me just find the, the actual document here. There's a very
and he says it's a very famous study that was done. And this
has been, you know, this type of research is, is done by, you
know, it's federally funded, right. A lot of research is done
by the, what do you call it the National Institutes of Mental
Health Have what else do you have? John?
National Science Foundation? Science? Yeah, the army, the
army, the intelligence agencies, the DARPA does a lot of this.
So he gives me the document. Oh, I'm just scrolling. I'm little.
Oh, I see what you're up to. Yeah, I can't find
it. Find it by John helped me out here. Could you talk?
Yeah. And then I think, you know, Brown is a pretty color if
you're really dumb. The
the research was done by a guy named Slavic, SL, O. V. I see.
And that's the name I'm looking for. Right? Frog? This is
horrible. I can't believe I lost the fucking document. Yes, I
said it. I'm sorry. She
more believable.
Yeah, well, believe me that I lost this document, I'm gonna
have to come back to it. Otherwise, I'm just run around
like an idiot because I marked it up anyway, in 1987, they did
a survey, and it was done. It was given to the government and
given with the express notion of, hey, wow, the American
people are afraid about really stupid things that aren't really
all that dangerous. And you should adjust your the way you
legislate, to let people know that they're worried about all
the wrong things. And I look at this document 1987 when look at
and just the opposite. Yes. 1987. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do
the same thing. I mean, I would guess what you're gonna say, the
document comes as Oh, this is what they're afraid of, let's
milk it. And it's
the top of the list, nuclear energy, you know, at that time,
at that point in time, top of the list was what was and of
course, it did segregated by women and students, etc. Top
analysts was private aviation, people on small airplanes, all
of this stuff. And it goes into a level of, of how your brain
works. And it turns out that people are more afraid of
events. And there's an I'm looking for a word, because it's
going to be a show title. They're more afraid of events
that actually have no, no real victims. But that, you know,
shows a failure, typically a technological failure, that if
that happens, all the 1000s of people could die. And that's, of
course, what what nuclear energy is. So the event doesn't
actually not a lot of people die or hurt or if anything at all
happens. But it gives you the idea that if if the government
doesn't fix this, fix the technology, fix the legislation,
technology is a big one on this, by the way, that then it could
have catastrophic, catastrophic results.
It's probably why they're milking the cyberterrorism.
Exactly. This thing is like a joke. This is essentially
unfortunate. Everybody forgets about this. This is no worse
than y 2k
Same thing. Y 2k This was the study was done before y2k.
Otherwise it would have been perfect for it. Perfect.
And y2k the biggest fiasco ever. Oh, I
have it. Oh, my goodness. All this time. I was looking for the
dummies the show's over. I know what to kind of say Okay, I just
okay. And it's one of these. He got it from? What's the thing
that they killed Aaron Schwartz for JSTOR. They killed people
over over talking about documents like this. The zero
risks here it is. This is the these perceptions and the
opposition to technology that accompanies them have puzzled
and frustrated industrialists and regulators. And I've led
numerous observers to argue that the American public's apparent
pursuit of a quote zero risk society threatens the nation's
political and economic stability wishes. If I read that, right,
you got like, No, this is perfect. So how do you want me
to like control people? That's exactly what we want. New
evidence appears reliable and informative. If it is consistent
with one's initial beliefs, contrary evidence tends to be
dismissed as unreliable. This is kind of the basis of conspiracy
theories, erroneous or unrepresentative. So it kind of
is a reverse of conspiracy theories. That shows the
government how to help people get on board with some agenda.
And then it goes into the Three Mile Island nuclear reactor and
79 provides a dramatic demonstration that factors
besides injury, death and property damage impose serious
costs, despite the fact that not a single person died and few
have any late and cancer fatalities are expected. No
other accident in our history has produced such costly social
impacts. The accident at Three Mile Island devastated the
utility that owned and operated
it all don't forget the movie. Yeah, no syndrome, which which
came out in Fonda, which
came out 12 days before that happened.
Yeah, well, there you go. And so
it goes on now. I want to give you the the meat of it. Although
TMI Three Mile Island, accent is extreme it is by no means unique
are the recent events resulting in enormous higher order impacts
include the chemical manufacturing accidents, Bhopal,
India, the pollution of Love Canal, New York, the Times
Beach, Missouri disasters launch of the space shuttle Challenger,
the meltdown of the nuclear reactor, Chernobyl etc, etc. And
here it is. An important concept that has emerged from the cycle
metric research is that the seriousness and higher order
impacts of an unfortunate event read determined in part by what
that event signals or portends. The infant informativeness, or
signal potential of an event is thus its potential social impact
appears to be systematically related to characteristics of
the hazard and the location of the event. With the factor space
described earlier. An accident that takes many lives may
produce relatively little social disturbance. It occurs as part
of a familiar and well understood system like a train
wreck. However, a small accident in an unfamiliar system, such as
nuclear reactor or recombinant DNA laboratory, may have immense
social consequences. If it is perceived as a harbinger of
further and possibly catastrophic mishaps. That is
your cyber war right there. No one dies. But you can say, Oh,
you I mean, you really don't. You don't understand why
we should just quit the show and go do a cyber war company.
There's so much money in that, well, maybe we should do both.
I think we could do it part time.
So here's the clip that relates to that clip, which I thought
was interesting. I was again, on C span watching these two guys
who wrote the book balance is on book TV. And they're talking
about the the economies of the various countries and how we can
get out of this mess we're in and why we need a balanced
budget, but we did has to be balanced a certain way because
we have to, we have emergency situations. But then they
dropped this one in a manufactured crisis clip
times, changes spurred by either a crisis in this country, we're
good when our backs against the wall. And other times technology
advancements help. How do you see those two playing a role in
your view of the future?
Well, it's a it's a great point. And where the country has risen
to great challenges have been economic crises, wars, one of
the reasons we were for the rule changes, is if I can be really
candid, almost manufactured crisis, politicians have very
difficult times in dealing with long term present value issues,
they need a crisis in the here and now and we may have to we
may have to manufacture that. Because if we don't, the problem
is as with other great powers over time, our ability to do all
the things that the American people today take for granted,
will simply diminish.
Exactly. And so these numbers help.
And so I sent this back to Ross, I went, Oh my God. I said this
is 87 cable television was just starting I mean it CNN had been
around for a couple of years. But it was every everyone had
big bass 40 channel basic cable. We had cell phones, which are
the size of VHS cassettes. Hello, VHS cassettes, what am I
even talking about? We had internet was paying finger and
gopher. And can you imagine that this is and when this was
starting, this is a bonanza. So he's now he's going to look for
us and see if there's been any updated research. But he says
this is a paper that was landmark at the time, and is
constantly referred to in the scientific community. And so he
said that maybe there may be something new. But he's he'll
find it for you'll find it for us if there's been new research,
but this is basically what everything started on. If you
correlate that back to 87. I mean, look at all the things
that have happened since then look at all the fantastic
manufactured crises we've had, including your y2k example.
Yeah. A lot of money was spent on that y2k thing. Yeah. I'm
gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the
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Well Kieran is apparently been watching since show 25 and just
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well, of course there's money that we pay our taxes believe
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We do indeed. Thank you because, well, there you go. Could you
get any of this conversation? I think, by the way, just so you
know, none of that was rehearsed. I had no idea what
clips John had. I didn't know he was coming up with that. I mean,
that was I think we float in and out for like, 25 minutes there,
John. Just going back and forth. That was pretty outrageous.
It happens.
We don't talk.
No, we don't. I mean, come on. Why would we? Really? Stinky he
gave me crap. This guy, Adam curry on the Twitter. I do.
Crazy analysis is
Oh, is that what I said? Or did I say stop with the amateur
analysis? Tail did not fall off. slavers? I didn't say shut up.
Slave. You said the tail fell off. I said no. Didn't fall off.
Never said it fell off. I says it could have fallen off. It's
not what
you said. Ah. That's not what you said. Oh, that's not what
you said. You said the tail fell. That's exactly what you
said. Oh, no, no, no, you
can't reach with
tweets. Okay. Should I read it to you? No. Yeah, no, I'm
reading it to you now. To you the guy that's always so by the
way you your artwork is beautiful on your Twitter. What
is that? Is that? Van Gogh?
No, it's me.
You did that? Yeah. That that green thing?
Yeah. Really? Gray Marsh farms.
That's beautiful. Yeah, how can I yell at you now you're
sensitive man.
I am I probably
was about the airplane and use and you said Yeah, and yeah. guy
sitting in the bathroom. blew it up tail fell off.
That's exactly what I said that made this up. Okay,
now you're gonna have to wait. I will find it and you tweet a lot
more How annoying is that? Is
How many followers do you have? Are you tweet the more followers
you get? I don't like logging if you don't blog much nobody
follows your blog ever keep looking.
I don't I don't hear I'm gonna kids playing you do tweet a lot
of nonsense
tweet any nonsense Yeah, my some of this stuff that seems like
nonsense. It's just me responding to someone you have
to read those Hey, by the way, you know when they mentioned
earlier in the show that guy who did they stay mentioned that
Chinese version of Twitter and then when they go to English, we
should be members of this.
Okay, hold on a second. So I gotta find it. Yeah, I found it
and it was to Eve connected and that's what I responded to it
wasn't even to you and Eve connected had because this was
it was valid. It said it's only the six week cycle if it's
terror related and you said how did the tail fall off?
Ah, is that saying how did the tail fall off saying that the
tail fell off? Yeah, you said and you can rewind the tape Yes.
You got that? Yes. So you said the tail fell yes when
you question how the tail fell off that means you believe the
tail fell off which is should all which shouldn't be with two
F's not one by the way
whatever. It was very funny. Belly Yes that one and
then I said all I said was please stop with the amateur
analysis the tail did not fall off and then you came back and
tail on it and fell off and that No it did not fall off. It was
chopped off
and then it chopped off it was get banged and fell off.
No it did not fall off. And then you come back and you say
on there this knot on there. It's fallen off.
It's not it doesn't falling off is different than being chopped
off.
It wasn't chopped up. There was no big knife out of the sky
chopping it off it No, no off the plate.
It got chopped off by the sidewall it was chopped off by
the sea wall and then you come back and say this is Twitter not
a place for your Shut up slave invectives which meant I had to
go to the dictionary to look up the word invectives. Which
means, which means like, which is why you use the word, which
means insulting or whatever, I didn't insult you and then I
said, categorizing amateurish and grossly inaccurate
conjecture is hardly invective.
The tail did not that tweet I had given up on this
conversation already. The tail did not fall off. No, no, there
was a tail on there. Yeah, sure. It was a shop dog.
Regardless, it did prove the point that Twitter is nothing
but a big global schoolyard of people
just bad is Google Plus No. And I
loved your article, by the way, love the PC Magazine, which I
think was Google Plus blows chunks. Was that the title of
it?
It was close. Got some guys on Google Plus just as usual? Holy
crap warehouse so how can Google Plus be dead? Where else can I
post a picture of Rob?
This is what a guy said he didn't say it was dead by the
way.
I never said was dead. I just thought it was a loser. He's
Where else can I post a picture of Robert Scoble with a caption
and get 500 page views and 500,000 500,000 Page bots, bots,
and besides the bots, but my comment was, if that's true,
this thing is worse off than I thought
exactly. Who wants to be a part of that as a part of a picture
of Robert Scoble getting 500 million views five was 5 billion
the number right? Yeah, that was I just don't like Google
Finance. It's just annoying. It's it's Twitter on steroids.
Take this, take this. Now. If you go and look. Now, all the
people that have been at these dinner parties, especially the
women, if you look if they have Twitter accounts, if you look at
their Twitter accounts, these are highly educated,
sophisticated, very, very, very respectable women. They get on
Twitter, and it's like, you Republicans suck. You're dumb.
You're dumb Republican
is literally
that I'm not making these words up. I'm like, You are an
intelligent woman. And you're sitting on Twitter going era you
Republicans are just lame. It's like you're on the schoolyard
yelling to the other side. What is this behavior? What is it? We
are all still six years old? And you and I were doing the same?
Yes, six. Why? No. Well, okay, now anyway.
We got to finish up the dinner. You never finished the show?
Yes.
Hold on. John. I have like 20 things I got to do. One is
boruch.org/and trying to play that for the fast past 10
minutes and not that one. We got it. I got like birthdays and
stuff. Oh. All kinds of important. Evelyn Becerra says
Happy Birthday to your hubby. Diego Medina who celebrates
today that being July 7 In the year of our Lord 2013 country on
a Scots congratulates her other half turns 33 today and
celebrating tomorrow. The lovely and talented Miss Mickey will be
celebrating her birthday so that should be a fun day. Happy
birthday to all of you from your buddies and lovers here at the
no agenda show. Then we have a couple of titles. Sir Dr.
Sharkey now becomes barren sir Dr. Sharkey, protector of the
Great Smoky Mountains. And Sir Mark Dytham becomes the Baron of
Tokyo and Dame Astrid which I don't know why it's not on here
I'm putting on right now. Astrid becomes the VI Countess. Is that
how you pronounce vi Countess? Yeah, the VI Countess Countess
of Tokyo. What does she get to do as a as a as a VI Countess?
Is there some special
execute anyone at her own will? Just like the Brits.
She can execute anyone at her beckon at her beck and call, and
we have oh, this is very nice. We have a night and we have one
or two. Let me see. We have 19 to do so let's go out the swords
here. John. If you can grab your sword then that will be perfect.
John Reichert or I think it'd be Reichard, we think would be
Riker, John. Ri ch Margarita Reichert. I record record. I'll
take this later. John, would you please step forward because you
have contributed to the best podcast and university amount of
$1,000 more so we hereby pronounce the Sir John Knight
and the norgine Roundtable and for you, I have reserved hookers
and blow over and poison Chardonnay hot pants and booze.
longhaired heavy metal guys and Scotch went to be a little less
limited Rosae Gosh isn't sock a buck in the middle of bar hits
and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and Mead
right here at the table that is round with all of our Knights
and Dames. And of course, along with this comes a certificate
and you should be receiving that at some point.
Either point of business of announcement. No agenda show I'd
like to announce that Eric de shield has taken over the
delivery and customer service regarding the rings. Yeah.
That means rings are really coming.
So if you did so make sure you send your note to a no edge
rings at no agenda. nation.com And I might add a lot of the
people that didn't get rings. Mimi gave up finally she says a
guy I says, I said what's your ring sizes? I don't know. She's
once you find out she's I don't care. It just became this kind
of you know she couldn't get information she'd be good and
she but she's not like Eric Eric is a born you somebody should
just hire him for like $250,000 to manage customer relations. He
could run Amazon he actually wrote a customer relations
management package
and he's extremely good at it. Yeah,
I mean, he's been the most annoying but when it comes to
customers, but this is a please hire him.
Can I can I give an outsider's view he is fantastic when it
comes to this kind of stuff. He went and getting things done and
you know, I'm I'm very Oh, I'm horrible when you got to sign
this or approve this or whatever. And he's very good at
coming back at it and asking and you know, never annoyed or
whatever, never annoying. And eventually I'll do what he wants
me to do. For some reason, within the family, this is
nightmarish. I just see. See it happen? Like, wow, I don't know
you guys. All you guys. This is funny. The Dvorak family is
funny.
We're a larious. You think we're funny? Yeah. Anyway, so Eric is
back in charge of this and we'll catch up to all the you know,
back stuff which sent him a note Yeah, rings it no agenda
nation.com. And if you're gonna want if you got a ring that
you'd need, because just got your knighthood or something,
you just send them to a mailing address, which, if you have a
title, you use something I don't know, do you put a form together
and all be taken care of?
Yes. And he's also working on the special 33 bags, all kinds
of stuff. It's good to have him back in the saddle. We're very
happy. And but also, if you do have a position to run an entire
customer service of Amazon or eBay or something like that,
yeah, you this is the guy you need to hire. I would be very
sad.
Because we'd be screwed. But he could probably still do it on a
Sunday. I don't know he's busy. He likes to stay busy. So nice
shape form.
So I did kind of I'd kind of finished out the dinner. I mean,
I had I hit everything right?
Eat. Oh, everybody say Did they all drink? Were there bunches?
lushes were they just circumspect because they didn't
want to get outed on the show for drinking too. Oh,
no, no, very interesting. So first of all, it started you
know, Lorie, who is an artist she has a 3d printer now. And we
all had to wait for her to her 3d printed the napkin rings to
be completed before we could eat. She was making 3d printing
napkin rings
Yeah, well that's what you know. I've thought about getting a 3d
That's all you do. I ended up doing I don't need more napkins.
What do you make napkin ring? Okay, great. That she lowered
the bar. She says she lowered the bar because it's my turn
next. And she she made gourmet hamburgers. Oh,
she lowered the bar. That was her excuse because you're next
and she figures you're like allows she
did she didn't say because I'm next. But she said I'm lowering
the bar because she didn't want this thing to turn into. This is
a very interesting group. I mean, we none of us agrees on
anything. But yet it's a safe environment where we all can go
nuts. It's hard to find that and with the knowledge, because
Laurie actually said to Pennebaker, oh by the way,
everything you say is going to be in the pot. In case you
forgot to notify you everything you say is on Adam show
tomorrow.
I am sure there's a few things you've left out. Well,
they deserve Well, of course, they deserve it now because
they're all you know, Ross and Laurie. They're getting
interviewed by NPR so now they're celebrities. So now
they're fair game.
Guys, I think I take everybody's fair game if they show up with
you.
Yeah, so the pennant Baker's lovely I don't know if they're
either going to be in the in the core group. But this this was, I
think, at the end there, because we did have two vodka drinks.
Some not champagne. What do you call it? Prosecco. I
know that you really can't drink.
Um, you know what I have to admit, I'm very very careful
during these dinners, because I need to record in my head. I
can't be like writing stuff down or like talking to just talking
to the microphone. And Nikki is actually she's, she's hardcore
during these dinners. Because she's the one that says guys I
have a gun. I love my gun. Or during the during the, the the
abortion debate Nikki's like, you know, I got I got him I got
a problem with this abortion thing. Like yes, she's great.
You know, she is She's like, just you know, you gotta fire
here's Mickey. Oh, I have a can of gasoline. I'm just gonna
throw it right on top. And it's fantastic because she she can
lay into people like anybody I just sat back I'm like okay,
this is good I'm gonna watch this one take place and it's
just it's nice to see these different opinions and I did get
a beautiful email
from one of those the wine
we had I don't remember there was yes I do. It was a no I
don't remember was it was it was a local wine. We have good wine
here in Texas. We're pretty good wine. I think I John, I don't
remember why did you do have to record this now?
No, I'm just wondering I just thought it might you might think
it was a interesting group. But I think it wasn't last time and
very high in Austin kind of toy. hoity toity. Yes. Probably roll
out some Latour or something? No, like, like our like our
architects do
know we don't have to bring casually they bring a six liter
bottle. I don't think anyone of this dinner has looked to our
money. This is intellectual hoity toity university people
that do okay. We're not super rich. We're not sure it's drink
good wine.
litoria do $6,000 bottle of a tour. Yeah,
yeah, but that's a six liter special bottle. That's really
old. I mean, this this different than Yeah, I would say Latour is
out. Yeah, it's because of the Chinese by the way, I'd say that
used to get on store. I've gotten the tours cheapest. 50
bucks a bottle.
Yeah. Well, I would serve that if I had it.
But you know, it's good. Similarly good wine.
Okay, well, I'm next.
I'm sorry. I'm just gonna stop talking. I'm
sorry. It's alright. So what I did get a beautiful email from
one of the women at the dinner is saying, hey, you know, we
feel so fortunate that we can have dinner with friends who
don't necessarily have the same opinion because every other
place we go, everyone set talks and all nods in agreement. And
it's this boring.
Boring who needs that? Yeah,
right. Exactly. Exactly. So now you and I have
by the way, I wouldn't say this. I have been in these situations
because you know, obviously my opinion is is libertarian style
and it has certain things when you get a group especially
around the Bay Area, everyone's a Democrat. You get in these
groups that are all nodding like you say, and then if you start
bringing some of this stuff up, you will have one or two of
these people that will never speak to you again ever life
ever again,
though avoid you like the plague. Yeah, yep, true. Toxic
but now you and I you my friend, and I have to work on the dinner
the next dinner because it's going to be me. We've done the
double dip recession slave stew now we have to do something. I
got to up my game.
Coco van
Hmm. Interesting. Do you think that's the way to go Coco van?
Yeah, did fly. People haven't had it for a while and when you
have it so it's always a pleasant dish.
Yes. Yeah, it's
true. Okay, but you know what, I think it would really do it for
you in this group. Oryx
where first we show a little movie of me killing the oryx.
And then and then still holding.
It's like, here it is. Bon appetit, baby. Oh, wow. Okay, so
that was the that was the dinner. It was very
entertaining, very educational. I feel very fortunate that I can
bring this information to y'all because we would not have known
about this type of research. We would not there's a lot of stuff
we wouldn't know. And so I hope to keep it keep it all common.
Do we I think we should just briefly touch on Egypt. Before
we go.
Briefly, should I'm trying to see if there's anything here I
have a need.
The thing I have on on Egypt is that remember, we were tracking
el barra de and everyone was saying, Oh, well, Barrett is
going to be Prime Minister. And they announced him on, you know,
in the media, except they forgot to tell the Egyptian people
because he's like, he's not prime minister. He's doing his
best to pretend it's just hilarious. And he's like, and
he's doing interviews and but everywhere today, and this is
Sunday. Everyone's reporting well, maybe he's not exactly you
know, not everyone. Not everybody agrees. And this guy
was just, and he is from the International Crisis Group. This
is a Soros guy. Yes. This is a guy who, who essentially, you
know, is a complete shill. And this revolution this there was
another this was kind of interesting. I think this is
along the same lines propaganda. This is an Egyptian who showed
up on YouTube with a message to President Obama. He said Mr.
Obama. I'm talking to you today.
On behalf Have a lot of Egyptians who wants to deliver a
message not only for you, for all the American citizens leave
us alone. All the families in Egypt want to tell you this
message. leave Egypt alone. Please, Mr. Obama, and stop
supporting the terrorists. Stop supporting the Friends of Amara
Brockman. The terrorist who killed lots of Americans stop
supporting the allies of Ayman al Zawahiri of Pakistan of
Taliban. You are giving them the full support by calling what's
happening in Egypt. A military group is not a military group.
It's a revolution done by a civilized people, civilized
Egyptians who are counted officially more than 30 million.
Here's what I find interesting. But what can I say something for
at least? Putin? Da
da Yeah, the guy holds the whole structure. What that guy said
was totally Russia, Russia today. Yes, yes. Oh, crap.
And here's here's what I find interesting. Do you think that
the American armed forces could ever do this in America where?
Oh, well, we'll just remove the government because the people
want it.
I think they had their shot with Smedley Butler. Back in the 30s
with the Roosevelt the plot the plot that get Roosevelt out, and
it was a big plot all Democrats by the way, it was all the
Democrat industrialists, which is where most of the money is
decided that people can look this up. It's look up Smedley
Butler. But it was very it was very cold. It's called Business
Smedley Butler was named Charles at the time had decided given it
to go ahead. It would have happened. It's too late now.
It'll never happen. It's called
the Business plot is what John was referring to. And I think it
was General Smedley Butler, who said all war is a racket. I
think that was his quote
by he wrote a little book on that it's very small book, but
it's this war is a racket war
has arrived. And it did say war, all war.
War. I'm sure it's just war, I believe you. So anyway, so
Butler nixed the whole thing. And that was the end of it, it
would have happened, and then we'd be screwed in that cycle. I
think that this particular situation in Egypt is has to
wake up the military in Turkey, because the church is doing this
constantly. But of course there's Ertegun outflank them.
And but according to today's New York Times, let me grab the
front page. Okay.
Oh, can I?
Yeah, you might as well might as well hold on a second.
Whereas we haven't done this in a while actually.
Two more two headlines on the front page above the fold that
are worth looking at. They have the plane on fire, of course,
one of them but which is not what I'm talking about. But you
should at least know this in secret. The court vastly
broadens the power of NSA.
Oh, this is what I was talking about this. This is the whole
New York Times article.
Yeah, it's right down the front page. And the front page just
below the fire burning plane Morsi spurned deals, seeking a
seeing the military as tamed, because he had figured that he
had decapitated the military knowing that they could pull a
stunt like this and got relaxed. I think this is going on in
Turkey right now. would make sense. And if they did, they
don't call them these the Turks are irked. Or this is a
situation where the middle class what's left of them. And many of
the the elites are irked by the government and the way they're
handling things and they and they know how that can be done.
The easy way to do this is to just take over the place of the
military and start over. And I think it can happen in this
country in the United States. I don't see this happening ever
How do you take any would be ridiculous we got we have a
pretty strict strict system. If it was a parliamentary system
where somebody could stay in office forever be a problem,
right? Because it was a problem with Roosevelt staying in for
four terms.
You feel you still think that this is I mean, I do this is
still a Russian slash Chinese plot. What's happening in Egypt
Scott,
the Chinese I think are just supporters. I don't think
they're involved Soros from the intelligence side. I think is a
totally a Russian do though. These Russians are sick and
tired. And I think they've been given the go ahead by our
intelligence people. Go ahead, do is, in particular to, you
know, do to do because he has getting blamed for a lot of
stuff. Yes, like whatever.
here's the here's the proof.
Chinese and Russia naval forces will be putting on a show of
strength over the next week. They're holding joint exercises
in this
new meme, the show of strength, show of force show of whatever
you have Japan. China state run Xinhua News Agency reports. The
eight day drill will start Friday off Vladivostok in
Russia's Far East, the navies will use 18 ships, including
China's latest destroyer. They'll also have submarines and
aircraft on hand for the live fire drills. Shin hardcoded, a
top general with the Chinese People's Liberation Army of
saying the exercises are designed to boost cooperation
and capability. He said the two nations can play a positive role
in regional security and stability. Patrolling Japan
where we've got this is the whole thing is, do we not? Why?
Let me ask you this. Why is this not being reported as a huge
chilling cold war? Why is this not being played up? It seems
like a beautiful script for for the for the news media. It's
this fun, it's great. But you know, it's got all the elements
you want in it. In fact, I don't really want them to do it.
Because now we get to do we get to do it. We get to analyze the
phony plane landings and we've got the everyone yelling in
South America. I mean, I love it. I love that with that you're
leaving it all to us. But why are you leaving all that meat on
the table?
I don't know why they're leaving that meat on the table. And it
is meat. And in fact, this whole Putin thing and my favorite
thing was when he was Did you see he did you see Putin to his
press conference about Snowden? Yeah, what are you saying? Eat
for one thing. He's got a smirk. And they kept showing pictures
of the audience of these of these recruitment Putin bots,
kind of doing everything they can to keep from cracking
up pretty well. That's, that's
Putin says, Yeah, we will we take Snowden in but we'd require
really, we'd be real strict about making sure he doesn't do
any more of these revelations. Wink wink, nudge nudge. You
know, we don't like that because our great friends the United
States of America is is an insult to them. We would have to
put a stop to that.
We couldn't have any of that.
phony and he's laughing his eyes are twinkling. He's just having
a ball doing this stuff. Because he's, you know, former KGB so he
knows all these tricks. Oh, and I guess you know, it still runs
the security mechanism. I'm sure it's
more like. Hey, Glen, Glen, is Vlad. Pay pay? Yeah, right. You
got any more than PowerPoint stuff? And this shit is
hilarious. Put some more out there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good.
Excellent. Oh, by the way, I'm gonna call Leni Riefenstahl. You
see that she's now publishing. What Leni Riefenstahl. That's
not her name. Laura Poitras. elsley. The filmmaker? Yeah,
he's now she's now reporting in Der Spiegel. She's so she's the
one that got the half a million dollar payoff. And she's put in
this report that she has seen internal documents, which is not
published. About all the spying done on Germany. These people
are agents. And Glenn Greenwald. You want to have a laugh? Are
you following his Twitter?
No, not really. Oh
my God, John.
I am following you. But
I haven't done anything yet. You just have to go to his Twitter
and just watch it update. If he's he's like, Edward really
wrote that thing in in WikiLeaks. He just has a problem
with nouns. From when I kid you not. This is the stuff he's
writing. He's defending the Bogut of Snowden writing on
WikiLeaks. Glenn Greenwald is here reporter or what is he?
What is Glenn Greenwald?
Well, I don't know what Glenn Glenn Greenwald is, but he's
doing everything he can to stay in the public eye to do a book
deal. That's the way I see it. But this is what's so stupid.
Where's the book? Get it out. Oh, that's it. That is kind of
surprising that somebody hasn't called him to do a book.
Now maybe the payoff was so huge just to do all this crap. I
don't know. I've got so much stuff we're going to do have to
do to pass on for Thursday. Let me see. I've got I've been
sitting on this Haiti report from the General Accounting and
Oversight Office, which is so damning, and then not a peep in
the news. So I can just hold on to that. I think I've had it for
almost three weeks now. It'll hold but you can imagine it's
not Good.
I got that's it. A lot of the stuff we do on the show is not
good, right, except for the show itself.
And there you go. I did get a lot of email about this one
particular clip, the Los Angeles show of force, about the, which
I wish I just wanted to replay this 15 second clip about the
holidays being tied to terror events, which of course is less
and less going to be this fact it's not going to be the fourth
of July. But a lot of people pointed out several things in
this in this particular piece of the clip as we're talking to
some muckety muck there in Los Angeles, who was terrorizing
citizens with police officers in complete fatigues and camouflage
combat gear, with automatic cassette and full automatic
rifles and night vision goggles and tanks. Yesterday,
federal authorities released a bulletin saying the country is
on heightened alert.
Anytime you have a holiday, it's something that you want to look
at you, you the Boston bombing took place on Patriots Day, the
Time Square incident took place on May Day, Benghazi on 911.
Okay, so
here's here's the things that people emailed me and we are
even learning how to listen better. May Day is really quite
a cultish celebrate celebration. If you look into the to the
cultish parts of May Day. That is a very weird thing to say
that, Oh, you know, this took place on this celebration of
occultism. Yes, may days, you know, as a day of labor
celebration, but if you're looking to the maypole, and all
this stuff, there's a lot going on. But the funniest thing is
this guy calls 911 a holiday. That's pretty hilarious.
Well, it's one of these days. Right? It will be a holiday,
like holy crap. How could we have missed that one? Yeah, is?
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who tastes your food.
Alrighty, this is not a bad plan. Thank you for suggesting
everybody a little bit longer normal. But what can I tell you?
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