Poor guru. They can't do anything because the government
doesn't make him. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, August
11 2013. Time for your gizmo nation media assassination
episode 538.
This is no agenda,
dodging the Austin false flags here in the Travis heights
hideout. Good morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm just in northern
Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Hill. Wow. Probably the most uncoordinated opening we've ever
done. Thank you. Yeah. You well know.
You're more than welcome. Try to make it a little different. Yes.
Well,
you know, because you get emails about this stuff. If you don't
do that, and people like, you're phoning it in, you just phoning
it in.
Phone, and I'm always Hey, technically, that's what I'm
doing. Yes. If you think
it's Skype, so you are. I'm Skyping. In you are totally
phoning in. And I gotta tell you this something very strange
going on here, John, with your
email. Yeah. Well, the the and by the way, I never got my
spreadsheet from Eric.
It's funny. He says that he sent it out at 1am. I didn't receive
it.
Oh, 1am. Well, it might be in a way it might be in the in the
one. I mean, what am is 200 emails ago for me? Well, so you
know, I think I'm kidding.
I've been, you know, I've rebuilt my mail server and which
it's kind of a it's an apropos topic, which we which you can
certainly get into, regarding the lava bit shut down. And what
is it Silent Circle and blue square and red triangle? And
what are these email services? By the way? What is lava bit? So
I can't
keep up. If people don't really wow, you're always keeping the
key to keeping up is to ignore of stuff for a while, because
most of it fails within months. Yeah. Then you get oh, last
thing. Oh, what was that? Yeah. The love of it, of course,
folded. We already fooled.
But the claim, which as far as I know, is not so it has not been
substantiated by anyone. The claim is that that purported
whistleblower Edward Snowden used lava bit as his email
provider. I and I don't even know if that's true. I mean,
have you have we seen any emails that that showed that he used
love a bit and was love a bit so great.
Well know. And love a bit shuttered. And the thing is,
is like, this is not about using encrypted services. This is
about decentralization, you know, this is the point that I
think a lot of people are missing. We're all in you know,
we have to encrypt everything. Of course, you want to encrypt
as much as you can, of course, you want to, you know, slow down
the government as much as possible. And you know, and at
least attempt some make some attempt at privacy. But much
more important, is you don't want to put all of your crap in
one single point of failure. This, this is the mistake that
people keep on doing like, whoa, what what, what email provider?
Should I use? Well, none, you know, learn how to set up an
email server. Did you hear about I heard about this great thing
today, which now it's not it's really like alpha stage. You
know, it's, there's no like clickable installs, it's called
a bit message. And the idea is, it's very much like, like
Bitcoin, where you have your one, you know, basically one
long block chain of message pyramid
schemes. No, no,
no, no, no, no, but the idea is that your email address becomes
essentially, you know, one, just like, just like a bit torrent
address. But you know, it's encrypted on both ends by
default, and there's no central service, it just kind of rolls
out there. And if within two days, you haven't acknowledged,
you know, that you receive the email, then the system deletes
it. And so it's a very, it's kind of a mind boggling concept
of how to send messages. But what's extra special about it is
there's a proof of work just like Bitcoin. So it's
unattractive for spammers. Yeah, I
would think it's so I'm
like, and I after the show, I'm going to install it because you
only need Python. And you know, you got to it's very early days.
But the idea just like we're using this BitTorrent Sync,
which seems to be the future of distribution of media as far as
I'm concerned, if you have if you haven't used this, on every
single show notes page at the bottom there, we have a little
new exclamation mark and a bit torn sync and you just set up a
folder on your on any of your computers and then even before
it hits the RSS feed, you get the show it just appears on your
desktop without any you know any any other company kind of in the
middle. So this is the same with this big message. I'm really
liking this, this is the way to go. Just everything kind of in a
bit torrent like protocol and then you know that everything
else will just fall apart I guess.
Well, I liked a bit torrent sync idea. And I think people should
definitely play with that because it might be the future.
Especially when they when they shut down. When somebody finally
says, you know, these guys have been kind of abusing for a
while. You get a kick out of these guys, Bill. Yeah. What do
you think? Fuck him. Shot him. Why take a chance?
Why take a chance? Exactly? Well, I think this might have
happened, John. Remember when I got back? We got back Tuesday,
like, late night Wednesday, I had little time to prepare the
show. Then Thursday, we did the show. And the first clip I had
for you was of this drill in Austin, where you know, oh,
we're a Department of Homeland Security. We're you know, terror
drill. Don't do not be alarmed if you see more. Police and the
Department of Homeland Security forces on the streets. And we
kind of joked about it and what is always the number one thing
that happens when we have a drill.
There's usually a coincidental terror attack. Yeah,
the real thing usually takes place. So the Austin underground
has been freaking out over the past couple days because the
Texas military forces I didn't even know what that was
initially, but it is an act card and it's kinda like a National
Guard unit. They sent out a special threat advisory for the
Austin area. Oh, and this thing? What a cool Winky Dink with a
couple of things going on with this because well, first, let me
read some of the pieces of it to you. And then and then I'll tell
you what happened which is even crazier. So this is from the
force protection alert, special threat advisory subject possible
terrorist threat to venues in Austin Texas in August.
Isn't your address was listed.
This is Austin people this is Austin. All right. Unconfirmed
reporting from the Department of Homeland Security has raised the
possibility of random terrorist attacks taking place random
terrorist attacks taking place in Austin Texas on or about the
eighth or ninth of August so this is like they have a date
according to so that just for the maybe that was for the for
the test.
Well, but there's something that would that something weird about
this? Okay, I'm gonna read the rest according to anonymous
reporting a group of trained terrorists are planning to
conduct a tax in Austin, Texas and Pasadena, California. At the
conclusion of the Ramadan period. Now this is that this
has been the narrative for a while like, oh, after after,
after Ramadan, they're gonna It's fighting season commence,
or whatever bullcrap. I mean, does anyone still believe that
people what? What is this? The terrorists al Qaeda hates Austin
because of our freedoms? Is that what it is? Really? You gotta
come to Austin. Absolutely.
I mean, they're trying to kill you. Okay.
The Ramadan period last from July 9 July to eighth August.
According to reporting the Austin group plans to plant
backpack style bombs. Notice the word bombs, ie D has gone away.
They've gone back to bombs. I've seen this everywhere. The IED
thing wasn't sticking people couldn't remember what it was
backpack style bombs on Sixth Street. Was it east or west
Sixth Street either on difference
makes a difference by the way? I think it's because I Edie never
got it people always thought of as some sort of ad lib piece of
crap they didn't ever seen one. I mean, these things are nasty
because they're made there and the ones in the Middle East we
should remind people are made from our own mind from placed
all over the place and these guys go pick him up, dig him up
and use the Carefully take out the explosive pack and then make
a bomb.
Okay, so it's Sixth Street, either eighth or ninth of
August. Additionally, here comes the group plans to attack a
school and Theological Seminary in the downtown Austin area and
complete the attack with operations. This
is your reading from the onion. No, no, no, no
and complete the attack with operations at the Austin
Bergstrom International Airport.
Okay, hold on it. Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask you the rhetorical
questions. Yes. If you know all these details, that means you
obviously have a mole. I mean, the guy I think is all bogus, by
the way but but I'm just saying for rhetorical purposes. If you
know all these details, and you obviously have a mole in the
operation are your are your LinkedIn, you're on the phone
with these guys. You're listening in carefully, which
seems unlikely. Oh, you have a bug in the room? Yeah. Under any
of these circumstances, that means you know who these people
are just go stop them. Check it
out. The reporting also stated that if eighth and ninth August
was not a viable option, then the group would conduct conduct
operations on the 29th of August they had a backup date. So okay,
so they're gonna blow up something on dirty six. And by
the way, they didn't know well, well, here's why I'd listen to
this. This is KFC and this is the local Austin Chyna news
station. We want
to clear the air about something that's causing a big buzz on
social media.
Oh, it's a big buzz. It was a big buzz on social media. Yeah.
Hello. Austin was being attacked
reports of a possible threat and downtown Austin. Now earlier
this week, we confirm that patrol supervisors at the Austin
Police Department were briefed on the matter. And the reason
that we're bringing this up in the first place, again, is that
someone released an official memo that they shouldn't have.
Okay. So here's the narrative this memo that I'm holding in my
hands well virtually was released by accident and that is
caused fresh worries Yeah, Robert. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Maxwell
reports. Alright, Robert Maxwell. This is this now
they've turned it into a lifestyle story is really fun
facts. But same time, you begin to think, Well, who knows?
Greg Lane works on Sixth Street where his office mates were
chattering Thursday about the military so called force
protection alert memo they saw on social media. Search Austin
threat on Twitter, for example. And several related posts pop up
kx. A and confirmed the memo is real met for certain eyes only.
We won't show you details since Texas military forces told us
Thursday. The memo was sent out last week and error and later
rescinded
it. Okay. So now. So there's a lot going on here. First of all,
we won't show you the memo. I have the memo right here. You
can download it from a million places. But oh, we can't show
you the memo. It was sent in error. So what do you think this
is? What do I think
it is? Yeah. Besides asking me
you can bulk what you thought on it. All right, please.
It was it was a I think this may have been to set up for a false
flag. You Why are you asking me if you're going to answer I'm
sorry. I'm sorry. I think it's instead of for a false flag. And
by the way, it pretty much coincides with the six week
cycle. This is what I
was so afraid of. And it is almost a six week cycle to the
tee which would be today right today would be the 11th is the
Yeah, it
would be today begins the end of the cycle. So it's something
should happen this week. But now we have to start the clock over
because I know if this was a setup for a false flag, because
it's bull crap, what you what you just told me, I mean, they
would know who everything they know too much. And so this was
the memo that was setting it up, let's say and but once the memo
leaked out, they had to kill the process. They had to kill it.
Dead.
So yeah, so here's here's the thinking in the Austin. In the
Austin alternative
media, the way this story never got out here
now flees, and even though it does lose Pasadena. I don't I
don't know why it lists Pasadena, maybe that's the
backup maybe it's Pasadena on the 29th with but that's not a
six, we
can't do anything now. This is scrub.
Get rid of it. The thinking is that there was a whistleblower
inside the system. Who saw this coming? Who was like, oh, no,
you didn't and then release. But of course, these things get
released. That's traceable. As to who released this, how this
got out?
If you really know how to cover your tracks, I think you can,
you can do it. Now there's a couple things people have to
know out there. One of them is all printers have a code on
them. So when you print from your Epson or your LaserJet
there is a
but this is a digital release John, there's no
okay, well, there's okay. But it's a PDF. So if it was done on
an official all PDFs have all kinds of data and we have to be
careful. Yeah, you have to do these things over and over on
different machines, go to the library, run the PDF.
You got it, you gotta roll it in the mud, stomp on it a bit and
you gotta muddy it up.
But I but so again, what the conversation that we need to
have as the President would say is why? Why why Austin? That's
so unbelievable. There is not a reason for zero credibility. San
Antonio is a military target maybe but Austin The only thing
I can think of is Austin you know it's it's filled with with
sensitive gay people.
Like myself low up sensitive. Yes, yes,
it works and works is good. Yes, we're a sensitive you know, LGBT
Blue Sky Blue oasis in the red state. You know, everyone
everyone knows Austin is great, but we've never been there. And
quite honestly, you know,
maybe it's to get the Liberals back on board. Yeah, yeah. What
are we gonna do these liberals are falling off the boat here.
They're all angry. signode And that's what we're gonna do.
Let's shake him up. Yeah, let's
let's hit him. Let's hit him in Liberal central Austin, but
because the believability of al Qaeda going, huh. I mean, this
is just as believable as ridiculous Kim Jong Un wanting
to bomb Austin, are you kidding me? It makes Oh,
that was the trigger for them for the Membury. Possible very
possible. Well, you know, if Kim Jong on thinks Boston is a
target, let's make Austin a target.
So yeah, of course, this is no national news coverage on this.
But I think this is pretty big, particularly the, you know, the
coincidence of having the drill take place at the exact same
moment when apparently law enforcement knew we had a
possible terror event taking place. Yeah, we're sitting ducks
here.
Well, I think you'd be I think you've dodged the bullet.
Whoever the whistleblower was, who wisely released that memo
into the public domain and then headed for cover, I would hope
that guy not that guy is a patriot or go or gal could have
been a gal, sensitive woman
well, and that and that actually does prove what Austin is all
about.
So while you mentioned Snowden, it made me think of something I
want to discuss before I forget about it, because I never I did
have a clip some weeks ago about this. But I just found this very
peculiar. Have and we've only we talked about it a little bit off
off the show, and I think that's probably why we haven't brought
it up, which was Snowdens girlfriend. Yes, Snowdon.
The stripper girlfriend. That's
J stripper girlfriend. She's actually a ballerina. It appears
and whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
wait a minute. She's not she's a ballerina. Don't me just get the
ballerina dancer. But is she a ballerina or a pole dancer.
Right? The one picture over that's one of the magazines is
used in a tutu and she's got her leg bent. Now that doesn't mean
you're not a stripper and she's always wearing a bare feet. So
those other things she's not in heels ever that I can tell and I
know what she looks like a spook. Right, right. So it has
that
but have we seen her interviewed anywhere?
No. And here's the thing. Here's the story that I got off of off
of the local station in Hawaii. So they had this place a cute
little place. I do clips not going to tell you any more and
I'm going to tell you but it's a cute little corner house with
that, that as soon as this thing broke the house is immediately
up for sale with a for sale sign that the place is vacated. The
neighbor say that the weeks before the Snowden thing came
out the garage was filled with boxes of covering the windows of
the garage door garage door has his little windows at the top.
And the neighbors are wondering what was going on with all these
boxes were in there and then just like almost overnight, he's
gone. She's gone. The boxes are gone and the house is up for
sale. Ah and a cute little house you know a little ranch style
place in Hawaii and she's apparently gone she's in
California somewhere they believe nobody's gotten caught
and are homeless he you're telling him by the way
California when I'm first thing I thought was the University of
California. Right.
up to your neck of the woods. They're hanging out with
loose right down the street.
Interesting. Yeah. Well, I find it you know, for for the the
amount of coverage this
Oh, and wait, wait, wait, here's another one. Apparently, when
after this whole thing broke, you'd think there would be a
bunch of agents crawling all over the place. Now nobody ever
saw anybody.
For the amount of coverage this story has received, you'd think
that there would be at least one journalistic outfit that would
be like Hey, I know. Hey, let me pitch this story to you. You go
into the editor's office. I got a story. Let's go find the
ballerina stripper girlfriend I bet she's got quite a story
this apparently isn't there wasn't there was an interview
with her a couple right after the thing broke and she was just
kind of all I'm was showing I
don't ever remember that I've only seen like the picture of
her and the to to
ya know there's a there's the interview with her she's gonna
go I'm now I'm like a ship without a rudder. And that's the
end of it. She doesn't say anything
that is that is when either of us dies the other is a ship
without a rudder
or killed.
I just got on the back on the back panel. Here's the reason
the terrorists want to kill us, according to Kaiser Alexander,
is that they left that's the day in the sky want to implement
Sharia law that is now the threat according iser alexan
Kizer um,
I think he might have they want to implement Sharia law.
I think he might that sounds like something he minded that
canard is getting a little old.
You think so I can see from the clipless that and we're gonna do
some coordination. You know, we both of course watch the
President Obama presser.
Yeah, I knew you'd want Watch that but I took some clips just
in case. And by the way we do get get slightly different
opinions from these clips.
We do but since you did your clips last time
Yeah, I know you're on. Okay, here we go. So I'll just back
you up with back right in case
in case you in case I missed something, but I do think I have
kind of a gem in here that obviously very similar to the
the Jay Leno Tonight Show appearance. This is pretty much
a bullcrap.
Totally.
But I think I discovered something I would get everything
else set up here. So I have
Yeah, I got my two. Wow. Well,
this is not so much a wild clip. As you know, what Adam does best
is, you know, go in and read something and find out what the
truth is behind the statement. So okay,
this is yeah, I did. Yeah,
this is your thing is my thing. So let's start off though with
just the beginning of the presser please have a seat. Have
a seat, everybody. What?
The past few weeks, I've been talking about what I believe
should be our number one priority as a country. Okay,
building a better bargain bargain middle class.
Here we go. It's the number one we've gone out to the number one
priority is a better bargain for the middle class, which I think
you know that
they're in negotiations. Well, no, I think that it's available
at cost middle class in negotiations yesterday. Yes,
yes. And the bargain is available at Costco this week.
I'll 13.
And for Americans who want to work their way into the middle
class, at the same time, I'm focused on my number one
responsibility as commander in chief, and that's keeping the
American people safe.
No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I saw that. When you rang the bell?
I'm sorry, Mr. President, I have to say one more time. Your
number one priority is not to protect the American people. It
is to uphold defend the protect the Constitution. That is the
oath that you took at no point did you say I, Barack Hussein
Obama swear to protect the American people. And by the way,
you learned this from your idol, George W. Bush, who of course,
learned it from his predecessor, which was George W. Clinton. And
George H. Bush before you this, it's the biggest lie in American
presidential politics. Okay, so there's a whole bunch of stuff
going on. I just pulled a couple of a couple of quotes that
really irritate me while we're on the Constitution. Of course,
the President talked about a number of things. The main focus
was about him explaining which which kind of justifies the
whole Snowden. Deal, by the way, but the President now has to
come out and say, Well, let me explain and we're going to,
we're going to maybe change a few things make it a little
clearer. So you know, obviously, you know, whoever was behind the
release of the documents. This is justification, because here's
the president, actually splaining himself, but there's
some some words he uses that just irritate me.
And they will provide an interim report and 60 days and a final
report by the end of this year.
This is the Transparency Report that's going to be provided so
that we can
move forward with a better understanding of how these
programs impact our security, our privacy, and our foreign
policy. Okay. So all these steps are designed to ensure that the
American people can trust that our efforts are in line with our
interests and our values,
our values, I'm looking for another word,
and others around the world, I want to make clear, once again,
that what a performative that is, I want to make clear once
again, America is not interested
in spying on ordinary people. Our intelligence is focused
above all on finding the information that's necessary to
protect our people, and in many cases, protect their costs.
Oh, so what the word he's not using his constitution. And
we've, we've we've heard this from him before. He's He's
replacing the word constitution with our values. It's not the
same thing. And and it's, quite frankly, for a constitutional
law professor to speak this way is quite offensive, but have no
worry, because the fix is clear. And the way he even says what
he's going to do, he's so excited about it.
Number three, we can and must be more transparent. So I've
directed the intelligence community to make public as much
information about these programs as possible. We've already
declassified unprecedented information and
when he now he's as bad as the guy that called in on that, on
that question and answer show the unprecedented right? The
script is bad at this point
the NSA, but we can go further. So in my direction, the
Department of Justice will make public the legal rationale for
the government's collection activities under Section 215 of
the Patriot Act, wait for it. The NSA is taking steps to put
in place a full time civil liberties and privacy officer
wait for it and released information that details its
mission, authorities and oversight. We're getting
excited. And finally the intelligence community is
creating a web will serve as a hub for further transparency.
Oh website that'll do it. That's what we want.
We're gonna have an RSS feed
by the way there has always been a full time civil liberties
privacy officer that should have been that Obama has a position
Obama has not filled for almost two years
now nothing but now now now he's like he's doing like he's news
created it. Yes. Well, so here are the two more clips and of
course, then I'm gonna hammered home but so again, we the words
really matter. And the words in this sentence, I'm just
flabbergasted and
we've tried to set up a system that is as failsafe as so far at
least we've been able to think of to make sure that these
programs are not abused, okay. But but people may have better
ideas okay.
What can those better it? What does a better in England this is
the most powerful man in the in the world, the leader of the
free world. And when it comes to really doing the best that you
can, can do the verb is
and people may want to jigger slightly, okay?
We may want to jigger slightly.
I got it, I always laughed. But the boogers got a jigger there.
Yeah, it's like the toilet does. jigger the hanger the handle
trigger the handle? But what are we actually
jiggery anger
slightly, sort of the balance between the information that we
can get versus the incremental encroachments on privacy that
haven't already take place?
Okay, hold on. So we can trigger the information, we can get the
balance between the information we can get, and the increasing
encroachments. It used to be moderate. Now it's increasing
encroachments upon your privacy, he is saying it.
Yeah, he is just similar clips where he's just doesn't know it.
But he's saying it. He's telling us the truth
hit so hit now. Now, this actually came up on the Leno
Show. And, and it took some help from a couple of our producers,
actually, for me to go in and look at the Presidential Policy
Directive. But here's the life.
So the fact is, is that Mr. Stone has been charged with and
now this is
the question, Is he a patriot? Is he a traitor? Is he a fool
running back
three felonies? If in fact, he believes that what he did was
right, then, like every American citizen, he can come here appear
before the court with a lawyer and make his case. If the
concern was that, somehow this was the only way to get this
information out to the public. I signed an executive order. Well,
before Mr. Snowden leaked this information,
okay. So that they know where this is headed. Okay, so let's
read a little bit from the end. By the way, it was not an
executive order. So that is line number one. This was a
Presidential Policy Directive, which is not exactly the same as
No, it's not at all. It's nothing like it and no one
calls the President out on this. So this is the president.
And by the way, he said this a few
years. So this is the unless I'm missing an executive order. He
is referring to the Presidential Policy Directive, PPD, 19.
Subject protecting whistleblowers with access to
classified information. And I'll just read you the preamble, this
Presidential Policy Directive ensures that employees one
serving in the intelligence community or two who are
eligible for access to classified information as you
John can effectively report waste, fraud and abuse while
protecting classified national security information and
prohibits retaliation against employees for reporting waste,
fraud and abuse. Okay, so he is saying he's saying I signed this
before Snowden did anything. So this is but he had a way to go.
Well, Mr. President, you signed this Presidential Policy
Directive as is published to the Federal Register on October
10 2012. However, if anyone, if any members of the press corps
who are sitting there waiting for their name to be called when
they're prepared a question had taken the time to read the
document, you would see that it states the following within 270
days of the date of this directive, that would be October
10 2012. The head of each intelligence community element
shall certify to the Director of National Intelligence DNI that
the personnel policies that apply to that element provide a
process for employees to seek a review of personnel actions they
alleged to be in violation of this directive and that the
review process is consistent with the requirements of this
directive. If you take October In 2012, to the date when the
policies needed to be in place, namely 270 days, that would be
July 7 2013. Several months after Snowden, went to Laura
Poitras, and, and the and the shills of that little club who
published the information to make it worse. Within 365 days
of the date of this directive, the DNI shall, in consultation
with the Secretary of Defense Attorney General and the heads
of agencies containing intelligence, community
elements, issue policies and procedures for ensuring that all
employees serving in the intelligence community elements
are aware of the protections and review processes available to
individuals who make protected disclosures that isn't even due
until October 10 2013. So while yes, you signed the document,
Mr. President, these policies were not in place not published
and not even marketed to the intelligence community
that have been clipped for the day. But it wasn't a choice make
you today for today.
And you know, excellent. Excellent. Yeah, thank you. But
it's just not a nutty. Thank you, Scott. Brady brandy, by the
way, producer, Scott. It's crazy that he can say this stuff and
no, onClick. I don't expect Jay Leno to do it.
But when y'all got Ilana is reading from a script. But when
the
entire press corps is sitting there, and again, he's just
saying, Hey, I signed an Executive Order No presidential
policy directive. And it doesn't take effect. I mean, the actual
knowledge of this. So Snowden could not have actually known of
it officially until 365 days after the order, because that's
when it's supposed to be in place.
Yeah, well, there you have it, that summarizes the no agenda
show. Well, and this what does it take? To do this?
I clicked on that link.
Once you got it, once you get once your nose started sniffing
around what it is take you 40 minutes 1440?
Hey, are you hanging out at the Washington press club to lift in
a few with the boys and chat it up?
I'm not getting my dick sock or anything. That's the problem
with these wash, at least not in the Press Club.
You're second each other? Apparently.
It is so this so John and I rarely speak offline. But we did
have a little back and forth. And I can't remember what it was
a quick email. I said, Boy, I can't wait until the next Obama
bought dinner here that because we're hosting at this time, you
know, started this is our, our dinner party. And it's going to
be the 30th and I can't wait you know, because it you know, it's
so funny to see people freaking out, you know, real liberal,
onboard Democrat, you know, Obama bots go into who the brain
is scrambled.
That's the beginning of the show that sound good sound, clip it
down. That's the beginning of it, but you could just see
somebody's having their brain scrambled that would be the
noise they'd make.
But the conversation was how, you know, I think was actually
more about the I think we kind of agree that now that that
everyone's brain is scrambled particularly in the in Austin,
that you know, it'll all be about the Russian gay laws, you
know, they're gonna be all preoccupied. We just have to
focus on something thing, but
exactly the thing, the state.
And then once you know what it is, you know, these are cold war
tactics. And the here's the here's the crux of the
conversation, I said, how do these guys actually think that
they can use the same tired policies of Cold War propaganda
in the internet age? And John's response appropriately was, I
think we can make the argument that it's the best time to use
cold war propaganda in the internet age, because you can
propagate this crap all over the place and people will just blow
up. By the time it bubbles up to your Facebook news feed. It's
true.
Mimi said that she decided to go like a week without reading any
news or listen to any reports and only go by the news she
received on Facebook.
This is a brave woman by the way. She's still there. It's
yeah, she's still here. The brave woman How did it work out?
She said it was she almost lost her mind. So it's like hoaxes
and bullcrap. And people don't know what they're talking about
and people getting all willy nilly over the craziest things
and freaking out and holding there. You can match imagine
people with their both their hands to the side of their
cheeks with their mouth open and screaming like Macaulay Culkin,
you mean? Yeah, the Macaulay Culkin look and all that it just
It's just It's insanity.
What did she learn, though?
How did she nothing? She learned not to do that, again, this
is a very interesting experiment, people should try
it. You know, in fact, I will be the first to say, Do not listen
to the no agenda show for a week. Only go by your Facebook
and your Twitter feed. And then come back to us and see how it
worked out. That the private forget
about that probably. Probably stop listening to the show and
then go into it check into an insane asylum. I think
we I feel strong enough to tell people that you should
absolutely try to go without the show. That's a good idea.
Some people have done that. And then they come back. And then
they don't know they're very happy to at least get some some
grasp of reality. But there's there's blatant ridiculous lying
that's going on by this administration. And then the
previous one and
the press and the press and the press. Yeah. And thank you. It's
not just this administration, this
one and probably the end, the one before that the Clinton
administration for sure, I did not have sex with that woman.
You have that clip. That's one of my favorites, all of
this. Every analysis I read of this goes back to the like, the
big so I'm, I'm almost done with this town, which is the
outstanding book about Washington. There's a reason why
not hearing about this book, because it is, I mean, it's so
unbelievable, what goes how it's just like Hollywood, you know,
and by the way, the book actually says that, you know,
this, Washington is or politics is show business for Ugly
people. But that is, you know, a really old and tired saying and
blah, blah, whatever, then and the guy admits upfront that he's
elitist. And you know, and he's, he's in this trap himself. But
no one can talk about this book, because it is so bizarre. So
bizarre, the parties and the power and particularly the
money, but everyone relates this money back to the Clintons when
the Clintons came in, that's when it just went off the wall.
And of course, the Obamas came in. And you know, there's a
short period where they were better than they're holier than
thou, there'll be no lobbyists. And what happened is, everyone
became what is known as an unregistered lobbyist, ie a
consultant. So now we have the the idea of putting transparency
into Washington has resulted in less transparency, because now
people just I'm not a lobbyist. I'm a consultant. Yo. It's just
everybody's consulting for somebody on something and left
or right. And it's like $4 billion a year goes to lobbying
$4 billion. We're moving to DC. This is this is money Central.
It's, it's mind boggling to me. And how the press because it
really this, this whole book revolves around Tim Russert
after he dies, and it's the funeral and everything. And how
that you know how that turns into a lobbying moment. Yeah.
But even Tim Russert you know, it's all it's all a big club.
And as George Carlin would say, we're not in it. We're not even
near to it. Anyway, so just a couple of things that came out.
So the NSA also came out with this document, which is kinda
reminds me, by the way, just for because I just had this thought
it reminds me of kind of that Palm Beach set. Or is it east
Palm Beach in that little enclave in Florida with all
these rich people? Oh,
the Palm Beach? Yes, Palm
Beach, Palm Beach, or West Palm Beach, or one of those very
specific where everyone was a little, it's an enclave of
mansions. And there's lots of them, there's 100 more or more,
maybe 1000. And these people go and they and it's that good.
It's an inbred bunch of, you know, discreet charm of the
bourgeoisie parties, and everybody shows off the
debutante balls and and it's and it's becomes its own thing,
where the to the point where you read about it, and as the most
famous people in this and they're all everyone's falls,
you know, they have to, you know, kiss their butts. You
never heard of any of them because it is bullcrap. Right?
It's just a little it's a bubble within a bubble. It's just
weird. Anyway, it just reminds me I think the Washington DC
party seems got to be very similar.
I was thinking I'm actually just scrolling through my through my
Kindle for a second. You know what I'm maybe on Thursday show
I'll read a passage or two from the book. If I find a couple
spots. Yeah, it's really it's really quite worth it. It's just
it's, you know, or better yet, go and read the book. I mean,
it's it's all good book. I'll just we'll just gonna say one
one thing before you move on, because the NSA of course, also
came out. This is all timed perfectly with the NSA story in
which and this has been debunked all over the web. And that's
this is its purpose is to have, you know, salon and ELICOS and
Zero Hedge everybody has to go and pick this thing apart but
you know, you're you're you're, you're spinning your wheels,
it's like, throw some throw some cheese into the hamster wheel,
you know, I'm gonna run some more. So the only thing I'd like
to say about it is that the NSA and this is just a little bit of
a math trick that they're doing. They're saying we only monitor
1.6% of all internet traffic which is meant to make you
believe that it's it's a very small percentage, but internet
traffic, you know, you can you can read the amount of emails
you could read to equal the same amount of quote unquote traffic
as to download in one no agenda show is of course, staggering.
You know, it could be six months of email is one no agenda show.
So for them to say, oh, it's only 1.6% of all internet
traffic is missing if you ignore the if you ignore Netflix, you
know, which is, I think, isn't Netflix. It's just a number of
people.
Buying Netflix with illegal mp3 downloading, there's 95% of all
your traffic right there.
I don't even think it's mp3 Download. I think it's Netflix
and the same movies on torrents, it's basically
just downloading
90% of the internet is essentially the movie industry.
So which reminds me Hey man,
big torrents can be used to distribute Linux.
Which reminds me of this I got a little pet peeve I'll throw in I
loved it. I just love saying that. So you remember the era
where you had a blog and so you link to somebody else's picture
and then posted on your blog? Yes, it's very common that
people used to complain they don't complain about it much
anymore because nobody cares because all your bandwidth is
pretty Hey man, you stealing my bandwidth is stealing my
bandwidth. They used to swap out a picture put a goatee picture
some something I've seen.
I'm sorry, John. We forgot porn.
Y'all Yeah, porn does account for a lot of Alright, there we
go. Well, they're probably catching that too. They you know
they get bored. That's probably that's probably that's the one
point.
Right? What is it other
stuff? Look at this. Can you believe she can bend that way to
Skorton? So anyway? So let me get so anyway, so I'm, I'm I,
one of my machines. Now when I I, I shut it down every night.
And this harkens back to one years ago when I was at milioni.
I had this Macintosh night always shut it down. And you
always be vigilant about the Mac crashes in my machine never
crashes. Right? So yes, because you shut it down all the time, I
started shutting down my machine because I noticed I go into
sleep mode. And I'd wake up in the morning to to wake the
machine up and there was a blue screen of death across the
machine. How does this even happen? So I shut the machine
down every night. So then when I boot it, I let it go by boot and
then I go downstairs and eat something and then I come back
and then I open up I do a Ctrl Alt Delete. And then I start
pulling off I go to the Windows Task Manager and I pull off
bullcrap processes one by one.
Like like iTunes launcher. Yes.
And iTunes monitor and Apple's Submariner and all these other
crazy things. Yeah, so I pull these things out like crazy. And
so I ended up with like about 12 or 13 things working, it's
always working. And then I was thinking to myself, when I'm
pulling them off, I'll see it's something like the Microsoft
sync protocol or something. And it's pounding the system. That's
where your palm pilot. So there was Zoom, zoom to that shows up.
So I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute, this has been going on
forever. So I download somebody's cry or don't download
I linked to somebody's crappy photo on their blog, which shows
basically nothing. And in the background on that same machine
that the guys griping about stealing bandwidth. The
Microsoft and all these operations are just sucking them
dry. They don't bitch about that.
There's this this. I got it for the Mac it's called Little
Snitch.
Have you heard of this? No, no, I have no I'm
sure there's a Windows equivalent Little Snitch is this
program that sits there and just tells you what is communicating
to where oh my god the chrome especially. Oh yeah, Chrome is
horrible and it's an all these and you're just you're blown
away by the end you're like oh my god I remember installing
that what it's doing that and there is so much stuff and you
almost can't believe that computers ran without the
internet these days. There's so much going on so much.
Yeah, well anyway, it's annoying. Yeah. Anyways, already
harkens back to my these guys. Hey, Steve. They made bandwidth.
It's illegal. Meanwhile, their bandwidth is shot because of all
this crap. I'm gonna sue you. Yeah, you gave her once Well,
somebody thinks that's a good idea. So I got a couple of Obama
reveals. And you can listen to these to these clips is from the
same press conference, I exit out to the ones that you already
wrote, It's okay. I'm Obama, should you be concerned, the
wild clip and this is like, a let's listen to Obama actually
telling us the truth.
I just say something, I had the clip, but I left it for you.
Thank you. And those abuses would be against the law and
would be against the orders of the FISC. Having said that,
though, if you are outside of the intelligence community, if
you are the ordinary person, and you start seeing a bunch of
headlines saying, US Big Brother, looking down on you,
collecting telephone records, etc. Well, understandably,
people would be concerned. I wouldn't be too if I wasn't
inside the government,
where I'm saying, is he saying where I'm saying? The President,
knowing what he knows, would also be concerned unless
he wasn't president?
Yeah. Thank you for telling us that, you know, I'm actually
going to put that in our evergreens. I think it's an
evergreen and evergreen worthy. Because it's one of those things
that goes along with this one from Thursday,
we're gonna live our lives and the odds of people dying in a
terrorist attack, obviously, are still a lot lower than in a car
accident, unfortunately.
But unless you're in Austin,
now it's part two of this. He does it again, this is the bomb
of the first part two weekend weaken. Do it better this
better? Yeah.
And so in light of the changed environment, where a whole set
of questions have been raised, some in the most sensationalized
manner possible. Where these leaks are released, drip by
drip, you know, one a week to kind of maximize attention and
see if they can catch us at some imprecision on something. In
light of that, it makes sense for us to go ahead, lay out what
exactly we're doing. Have a discussion with Congress have
discussion with industry, which is also impacted by this and
have a discussion with the civil libertarians and see, can we do
this better?
Better? Kind of links to that good that you had? Yes, yes, we
should just get you know, we're getting we're doing more of
this. But can we do this better? Because obviously, we're not
doing a good enough. We're not spying well enough. And
you know, and I have a new heading in the shownotes called
fascism. I thought it was delicious. But I tried to come
up with something cute and like, no, let's just call it fascism.
And on this, what is it August 7, Tim Cook, Vint Cerf. And a
couple of guys from Microsoft, everyone. TechNet. Tech America,
they all went and had a private meeting with the President. No,
but how they can do it better. The annual I denounce it go up
and buy it now I denounce Apple go up and buy anything. And by
the way, there's, there's plenty of reason do you see and so I
think there's even a topic on Twitter and it should come up
again today. And if you're on the show or not. But now, so we
know there was this thing where it wasn't it was the
administration overturned, you know, an import ban a regulation
because of the apple Samsung lawsuit. And by the way, I read
through the documentation, which is very disappointing of a
technology show that no one actually done that. And if you
and if you read the description of the laws under which those
import restrictions were posted, you know, it is actually good
for American business to there's, you know, for certain
types of patents, and you know, for broad patents that everyone
needs, that it's correct for the administration or the President
to say, hey, we veto this, you guys still have to work it out.
Money still has to be paid, you know, but But you have to be
able to continue production. But now the tables are turned and
the administration and the United States are actually
banning Samsung products from coming in. And so to then have
Tim Cook show up and do a little private thing with the president
is fascistic.
Coming up and if you got a note from some guy saying yes,
there's not a fascism and he went on and on with some sort
of, I don't know half big right wing theory picked up according
to my A researcher, a private researcher on the site says you
just got this from the National Review. But
I feel scorned. You have a private researcher on the side
you
do now. Yes, cheating on me. So anyway, this is the difference
between the communist the communist was exactly the same
as the communist nationalized everything. There was no private
companies. In the Stalin era, they were all Russian companies,
everything was owned by the Russians. In the, in the Nazi
fascist era, they they all the corporation was still private
companies, but they were co opted completely. And they were
doing they were working with the government. And that's really
the key.
And that is really what we've learned about this. And then you
get douchebags like Jeff Jarvis, who then goes in The Guardian,
and he and I, did you read this piece that he wrote in The
Guardian? You know, oh, I'll link to in the show notes. You
have to read this. So he goes off on this whole tangent here.
It's we need big tech to protect us from Big Brother. And of
course, we all know Jeff Jarvis. Not only does he own Google
stock, but I think he you know, he's
embedded a book on Google too. Yeah. What would Google do,
right? And you know, and he's talking about how it's actually
it's being made impossible, poor guru. They can't do anything
because the government doesn't make him and he ends this
article.
There's another one other one that 152 58.
That's, but that's exactly what it reads like. And he ends his
piece. In the end, it's neither technologies nor institutions
that will secure us from the init in org an exorbitant,
inexorable, storable, inexorable, inexorable,
inexorable overreach of government curiosity in the face
of technical capability, responsibility for oversight and
correction begins with the individuals whether
whistleblowers or renegade politicians or employees of
conscience who finally remind those in power. Don't be evil.
Read Jarvis. You dick. You're gonna pull out the goo. I mean,
you're even reusing the Google slogans. Jeff Jarvis infects
your teeth.
He's a full professor. Now. He's not and heard him. He says he
did not sit on Twitter.
He's a full professor. Did he get an honorary thing? Or did he
study? Oh, no. He's
been a professor but he's always been a lecturer or assistant. I
thought. Professor when you get full professor, you're done.
Your tenant. You got tenure, you get the YOU GET THE FUCK THE
coeds without getting caught.
Oh, hold on a second. Can I still go to school? Yeah. And
you're guaranteed a gig for life essentially, aren't you?
Yeah, pretty much. That's the closest thing we have to
communism. So anyway, okay, well, enough of that. Here's
another one. This is Yeah, please. This is Obama's. His
comment. Which I think leads right to the holder clip, which
I put on here again, last time we played it was 711. Sec about
once. Today's what? What's the day? 811? Well, every month it
looks like it comes up in the conversation. Yeah, this is
holder will you know saying oh, you know, dough, do you? So
anyways, so play the Obama fall back comment leading to holder
clip?
Oh, you've you've actually written a little cue list for
me. I appreciate it.
I think the main thing I want to emphasize, do you want to go
straight into it? Right.
Yeah, I mean, this is just his. I mean, I'm going from this
straight into holder. Yeah, you can go right to hold her if you
want. But this is him saying we're not interested in spying
on anybody
is I don't have an interest in the people, the NSA don't have
an interest in doing anything other than making sure that
where we can prevent a terrorist attack, where we can get
information ahead of time that we're able to carry out that
critical task,
but it just asked, Could you show it to us that no phones
inside the Capitol were monitored of members of
Congress, that would give a future executive branch if they
started pulling this kind of thing off, would give them
unique leverage of the legislature.
With all due respect, Senator, I don't think this is an
appropriate setting for me to discuss that issue. I'd be more
than glad to come back in a in an appropriate setting to
discuss the issues that you have raised.
Hmm, I tell you I'm putting the holder in the evergreens as
well. That's another one of those things.
I bring it I love that holder clip.
There was one thing that I saw on MSNBC and and I'm one of the
few still watching the channel. In fact, I am 1.6% of the
viewing audience. And this is Professor Julian quarry, James
Peterson, black professor. And and I, I'm happy that he said
this. And it really gave me pause from Alma, like, Yeah, we
should talk more about this on the show because we're really,
overplaying this because of course, we are, to some degree
elitist. It does seem that way. I mean, I don't know if the best
way of making this case is comparing us to governments that
are more totalitarian and how they execute their powers. But I
have a really different take on this entire sort of NSA thing, I
really find it to be quite a privileged discussion. And it's
not that I'm not interested in transparency in terms of how our
government surveillance people how our government prosecutes
the war on terror. I do think those things are important. I
think this conversation is important. But I just believe
that we needed to have had this conversation a long time ago.
And I believe that poor people and people of color are under a
different type of surveillance. In this country. When you think
about things like stop and frisk, and our relationship with
the interface between policing forces in the communities of
color and poor folk, there's a tremendous amount of physical
surveillance that goes on in our nation every day. And so I would
love to be able to transmit some of this energy around the NSA
and around transparency with the government in terms of how it
prosecutes the war on terror, to think more critically about how
poor folk and people of color are under constant physical
surveillance in this nation that we live in. And you know, and we
forget to talk about this. And literally, and there's actually
there's a, there's a, there was a C span, Diddy, that's about an
hour and I'm gonna pull clips for it for Thursday show it's a
guy who wrote a book called The Rise of the warrior cop the
militarization of America's police forces and and it's mind
boggling because while we're still going past the
commentators you can't have that can't happen you know,
meanwhile, you know, there's really no difference the the
cops have become the military
Well, the and you know, the then the Russia and the reason for
this, of course, is because they've been handed cash by the
Fed. That's exactly
what that's exactly that. Yeah, not just cash but a year have a
tank. Yeah, have
a tank setup or SWAT team. Oh, buddy. Yeah, little cute little
town in the middle of Kansas SWAT team, they need a SWAT
team. And so
so this is the clips, I'll pull this guy goes into the logistics
of the SWAT team and how doing SWAT raids is actually a revenue
generator for these blue local police forces. So that's a
little teaser. We're a little bit ahead of the game with that.
I'll have some of that for Thursday. And that's part of the
work we do here on the no agenda show. So I will say in the
morning to you John C. Dvorak
in the morning to you. Let's get ready to rumble Adam curry
Hello, you know that guy Sue's people who say that says that
say that? Really? Yeah. Copyrighted let's get ready to
rumble Oh yeah, I found that out some years back. Anyway, in the
morning you Adam curry in the morning all ships at sea boots
on the ground feet in the water subs in the air and all the
Knights and Dames out there. Yes. And
in wanting to our to chatroom nogen ustream.com. No agenda
chat.net who have been very funny today. Very, very funny.
Good Jeff Jarvis material in the chat room this morning. We
should leave it at that. And in the morning to all of our
artists. It's very very challenging for for artists to
contribute to the show because we choose the art pretty much at
right after the live show ends. And so people make assumptions
about what they think we're going to talk about, which is
pretty much always wrong. Almost always wrong. And then the stuff
that they put together it's hard to do you know and then of
course we're always looking for original art and I think was
Martin JJ two episodes in a row he did the art to 44537 and I
believe also 536 But he just he was just nailing it so thank you
very much.
We talked about this before but I mentioned it again to other
other people who want to try to get get art on the show. Martin
we went back I thought we stopped Martin JJ was a newcomer
showed up out of the blue and we went back and he was a guy that
was one of these tried and tried and tried to never was hitting
the he wasn't he was like wasn't running on all cylinders. And
then one day this is typical of doing anything you get you get
in the groove and the next thing you know you're pounding it it's
just really interesting. So I don't want people to give up no,
do you ever get it? No, no potential. And we have we
discussed this and we go this is almost good. We actually
sit down go Oh, geez, Martin JJ again.
Actually, we have done. No, that's when he was streaking.
Yeah, like four in a row.
We got to give someone else a chance.
And then he retired. Remember for a couple of shows. Yes. I'm
going to let others win.
I'm going to climb Mount Kilimanjaro next, man I will
return to do more art.
But we do have some executive producers to thank Nice. In fact
here we got a number of them including Sir Dwayne Melanson
from Tigard, Oregon, triggered as I like to call it, who has
now decided to become a Boise is it $588.88 500 For the great
interview shown a belated 8888 For John and Mitsi. Also, since
the peerage committee has been silent on this matter, I have
requested that I be named the Duke of mystery. And then he has
an email that we can discuss when we night or later,
I would look for the email I couldn't find it. So I'm not
quite sure what's going
on. It was just it was just a discussion of why he decided to
become the Duke of mystery because he was, you know,
running Oregon, and figured that.
Now the bigger over overarching issue is we know someone made a
peerage map, but it's not really accurate. And as even some
misspellings and is this something that that Eric will
eventually be putting on? No agenda nation? I mean, once he I
don't know. I have no idea. I know we have to discuss this in
the meeting. Okay. Now here's a real interesting anomaly. David
Foley came in with 538 33 and he now wants to become the black
Baron of Silicon Valley, please, or he is already the black
Baron. In close find my membership for 538 long with 33
cents you can stock up on mac and cheese. In case we get
shuttered. I believe this now LME MC elevates me to the talent
URL of Silicon Valley. Thanks for providing the value for
value with the best podcast and universe a toss a little of that
wonderful. No agenda karma my way.
All right. Let me do that first and we can discuss. You've got
karma. Nice.
Okay. Here's what's weird. I mean, one of the things that
when you're online or you're doing anything that is that
involves the internet or where you have big massive amounts of
numbers or you have a bunch of things going on. folies 538 33
came in about one minute after Kobe Hung's 538 Now this is one
of the rare moments where we do not we have the 538 Club usually
one guy comes in with the become a sole member of that so we have
to, but the weird thing was and from Hong Kong, Kobe hyung it
was you I saw it on the on the on the Pay Pal thing and said
holy crap. First of all, it
sounds like Korean Airlines pilot.
Kobe, Kobe Yong Yong let me read his note Heil John and Adam. I'm
a huge douchebag for donating more frequently sorry to hear
that Adam had some crappy experience with the Chinese
tourists in the EU. I don't want to call them out as one colossal
douchebag
I don't think that representative of the no agenda
China, there's a difference.
He says he wants to come out as douchebags for giving the rest
of the Chinese the term not me. China is a bad name.
That one day like it'll just be a thing. And hey, hey, call me
hungry. I hear from Kobe hyung that American Yankee call us
China's
China's please give me some surprise karma propagate the
formula Kobe from Hong Kong PS. Here's a little accounting I've
donated shows 441 And he's got the numbers. And he needs to be
knighted. So hopefully he's on that. Is he on a night list?
I mean, check. Well, I've given him some surprise karma. Here we
go. You've got karma. I believe he has let me just double check
night's titles. Hey, yes, Kobe home?
Yeah, sure. Sure. Hyung. Nice. So we got the note from melon
sawn. Sir. You are wondering about the Obama Leno clip in
which POTUS changed from you can retire even if you don't get
rich to even if you aren't rich, as you recall, right. Remember
in the election campaign, he was trying to vilify people who are
rich, not those who may become rich. This was at the core of
the 1% bullcrap. I think somewhere in his brain, he
recognized that what he was said might come across as slamming
that people were trying to get rich, which is a boatload of the
voting public, not just the elites. Of course. I also agree
with your theory that the subconscious will tell the
truth. Let it leak out. I think he's trying to send the message
that dry all you want. You ain't getting rich. No, I'm gonna
retire if you well
hold on a second because I didn't clip it. But I have his
little YouTube show. But and of course I watched it, but there's
nothing clippable but now there's something that I
remembered and this is how my brain works. You know, I'm like,
hold on a second. Didn't I hear something about that, you know,
13 hours ago and this
particular clip listen to this last few weeks. I've been
visiting folks across America by
the way he didn't start off with Hi Well, this time he went
straight into it. Anyway for the past few weeks no Heil
everybody, no nothing. So that's weird that that's what actually
got my attention. Well, that's what got my attention talk about
what we need to do as a country to say, by the way, the White
House audio was always off center. It's always heavy to the
right, never to the left, which says something by itself,
perhaps I don't know
if there's it from his perspective is heavy to the
left.
Yeah, no, I get the joke. But it's not for a better bargain
for the middle class.
I've been laying out my ideas for how we can build on the
listener stones of what it means to be middle class in America. A
good job, a good education, affordable health care when you
get sick. That's secure retirement, even if you're not
rich.
There you go. Even if you're not rich, what does that mean? A
secure retirement even if you're not rich?
Well, I think he might meet I think Melanchthon may be on to
something here.
Definitely. But see, see how that works. Yes. Something like
Wait, am I heard the President? And I remember like, that's
weird. You
can't get rich. I think you might be right. Yeah. Which is
essentially that message was, you know, getting rich kid.
Here's can we close the door? Here's the bargain. And by the
way, the only way to get out of that closed door I might add
just as an aside, wealth tax.
Yeah. Now that's your thing. Just keep saying it.
I'm saying I'm keeping it running. Keep it anyway.
Onwards. Let me do one quick search here. See if bemrose sent
us a note.
While you're doing that. I just a quick note to to Eric the
shield, we have the chocolates for your wife. But we I'm a
little worried about sending them off with like UPS or FedEx
from Texas where it's 100 degrees.
Oh, yes, please do you once in
a while. Have more. Am I going to do
this? By the way? Get a gobbly goo.
Let me ask you a question. So Eric says, hey, you know, while
you're over there, can you bring back some high end chocolates
from my wife and I of course do this but I'm like, this is a
trick. This is just to see if I'll do something for him, isn't
it?
I probably once a month she likes Belgian chocolate. I
mean, you can you can get high in chocolate anywhere.
Yeah, you can get high and then go over to go over to Victorian
gets.
This is not about me bringing it back from from Europe. It's
about making the monkey boy jump.
Send me No, no, it means you're just starting to you're starting
trouble. I'm trying to bury you. I would just you know say no, I
can't do I did it. Let me give you bottom some chocolate. Yeah,
you only have to say this to Mickey once Mickey is she's got
a he's got this now. You
can't ship that stuff until
winter. January.
It's no no just you know, be once it goes into the post
office. There's just a gobbly goo.
My wife is so awesome. You know, Eric's like something. And
she'll have this in her brain. And she was like, We cannot
leave the country. We have to buy chocolate.
She's a hostess type.
She's very good.
She puts on a great little dinner for those Obama bots. Oh,
dude,
you have no idea. And yes, I mean, I'm cooking of course. And
you know that your it's going to be your recipes?
Yeah, let's go with something good. All right, here we go.
This is from bemrose. He sent us a note actually on the 24th. And
the whole end and he gave us 333 33 In this check, which came
in through the banks, the bank system. This whole NSA spying
thing broke everybody in the office except for me were
completely shocked that her own government could do such a
thing. How good members of our own government swore to protect
the Constitution, go behind our backs and do such a thing my
boss was with whom I've discussed no agenda several
times summed it up best when he said you know the worst thing
about the NSA spying is that they're proving Adam Curry's
right. Going donate I don't know what is if that's not a sign.
Well, here's the thing. The big Pay Pal meltdown from last month
got me thinking to myself, self, if you donate 333 to the no
agenda show, how much do they actually get? Well, I thought
back all of it, if I have anything to say about it, so F
Pay Pal. I sent a check. I don't know when it's gonna get there,
but it'll get there. So as the coroner can by the way we got
here a month later. I don't know how that happened. So as the
coroner concluded after the bear attacks in Eastern Europe, the
Czech C H E. H is in the mail. Oh, all right. So that's right,
sir Ryan, bam, thanks, David Robertson right. Now we got two
three Executive Associate Executive Producers David
Roberts and Norristown, Pennsylvania, who may have a
note to Sir Todd Brink in New Berlin, Wisconsin. Thanks for
the great shows. They actually want you to read that. Well, I
look up old Roberts.
Okay, hang on a second. Thanks for the great shows late Lately
for some reason, my title forgotten when I donate. Yeah,
no, you have to you have to keep telling us. We're we're we're
rejiggering our system which is no it's which is the same thing
we do with our constitution these days you rejigger it. So
sir Todd Brink night macaroni a homage macaroni homage Can I
have a macaroni and cheese by iron Rand bump please? Why? Yes
bend over.
Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese iron Rand. There you go. Oh,
it's the same guy. What do you mean those two clips? That was
the same voice Hello? Oh, is that on the voice that was on
the clip? Yeah, you didn't. Okay, nevermind. Nevermind. All
right, David Robertson. Norristown did send a note
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guys saw in in US magazine. Which Miss Mickey brought back
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First Lady was in there and she had a cauliflower mac and cheese
recipe. Oh that it was right at her right there. Standing in the
garden of the White House garden with her hands cupped and in her
hands veggies, veggies in her hands. And it was the first lady
official. Cauliflower mac and cheese. Yum, yum. Give me some
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And it's important if something nasty in French. Depends on
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No, it's true. She says it for the you our listeners to make
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Alright, so let me just give you what the It's okay. I'm sorry.
I'm not happy with this site. Because here are the
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better to under the dome will get cancelled. Three, Facebook
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cares about Alex Rodriguez. I mean,
the whole front page is almost not I mean, I don't want to
harsh
distraction of the week stuff. Yeah, yeah. Mad. Mad for him.
What what he needs to do is he needs to you know, like, you
know, no agenda eyes this this thing?
Yeah, yeah. You could do it by by not you know, it'd be
invalidating the predictions as being lame or whatever.
Yeah, we should have some iOS seven will be a flop. You know,
this isn't? No, no. Anyway, I do I do like the idea of iOS seven
will will communicate directly with the NSA. So Portage
translates to portage. But what does it mean?
I don't know. Yet. Look it up in a French dictionary. Anyway, so
I forgot what it means. I used to know I used to be able to
speak a little French and
a translates to Portage IN ENGLISH. Yeah, I
think it means moving something. Doesn't it? Word the group port
from you know, looking it up location?
Yeah, the carrying of a boat or its cargo between two navigable
waters? Yeah, that's it. Okay, Portage. Alright, so it's like a
canal.
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Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth
did I mention that? The middle Mickey's trying to kill me?
Oh, yeah. You've told me a couple of times, I think by
poison. Oh, no,
she knows she's given up on the oyster. Oh, yeah.
It's something about the poison. Oh, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, she's she's come up with a way to kill me.
And I don't know if you're familiar with this concept. It's
called spinning.
But before you do that, before you say that I just want to make
one say one little thing here. Do you know how hard it is for
Melanson to get to a dukedom? That's astonishing. Getting to
Duke on this show is very difficult. No, it's very hard.
Anyway,
but he's, he's he's been around for a while. And he's been
supporting the show. So you eventually you're
there. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And I use the word. Are you
familiar with this thing called spinning?
That's where you spin your partner until they pass out and
then you choke them to death? No. Is that what she's doing?
Oh, no,
no, she so you get this. So she comes home, she has this new
clothes. And you put on these clothes and you're looking like
Lance Armstrong. And then she takes you to a building and in
this building, there's a room and in the room. There's like 50
Exercise bicycles. And then you sit on one. And then they close
the door and lock it they turn off the air conditioning they
turn off the lights and then you realize everyone except you was
wearing neon. And then they turn on like this disco like house.
And then there's a woman with a microphone on her head who was
yelling at you. And you have to bike really fast. And then you
know and then you have to go push up and down and lift and
crunch and up and down. And then you know and like and then you
can't breathe and then you're dying.
You know I've always suspected that Mickey was susceptible to
this faddish bullcrap that floats around.
This this is I mean, mice is
like this, like the restaurants where you were this pitch black
and you're supposed to eat your meal. Those places all folded.
I always liked the no hands restaurant, that was my favorite
way.
I've always thought it'd be cool to go into one of those
restaurants, no hands has another Have you ever been there
then? No, no, I don't go to these places I go. I really like
eating food. Normally, when I go into a dark room, because one of
the things I'm one of those horrible people that you put me
in one of those restaurants in the dark room, nobody can see
anything. I'm throwing the food. The knife is gonna throw it all
over the place and see what happens.
I was in Bangkok. When I was in Bangkok, we were doing the
documentary. And I said oh, we have to go to a no hands
restaurant. And no hands restaurant is the food is in the
middle. It's like it's kind of like a bleacher like a round
bleacher and you're sitting on the on the lower rung and you
have a girl I think with no clothes on sitting behind you.
You think I can't really remember that part. There's a
lot of naked girls during the documentary. And and then you so
you as the no hands patron are not allowed to touch the food
you have you just look at something and then you're I
think naked helper then goes and pushed
up against you.
This is part of the benefit of the restaurant, then goes with
the chopsticks or whatever or if they might like fry something on
a little Skittle thingy and then makes it for you and feed you.
Sounds like a good way to get blinded. Or to
wake up in a bathtub full of ice with your kidneys. Anyway, so I
have to say, I'm gonna go back I'll stick with it. I'll stick
with the spinning thing and I want to get but it's like can we
do like a spinning thing for like, dudes my age where we
start with you know, like, a little heart attack like a
little Creedence Clearwater you know the slight ease into it
slowly. And then maybe we'll be at Sympathy for the Devil at the
very end of the class. None of this 150 beats per minute crap.
I'm hurting all over. But I do have to do something because I'm
become fat. You've gotten fat. Yeah, and that hard? No, I got a
gut I got a gut man from this drinkin Ionis so much. It's not
about it's not moving. It's not about the not eating so much
just don't eat
anything. You're not gonna get fat I guarantee without move or
not.
Of course, we've been smoke free for a year that you know that
you're gonna gain some.
That's always the excuse. No, I'm
not saying that's the excuse. As I said it's from non movement.
So this will be movable. But anyway, this this thing, what is
hidden walk check it out. So you
think they come back and you get 106 degrees. So you got
50 You got 50 bikes, and they think they charge 20 bucks for
45 minutes.
This is $1,000 for somebody yelling it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
exactly. And they do it. They must do four or five of these a
day. This is a pretty good outfit, and it's pretty good.
Pretty good deal
and want to go to it. I want to own it. That's what
I'm saying to own it. Yeah. But you're only outlays Well, these
bikes are expensive, though. They gotta be 1500 bucks. These
bikes are not cheap.
Once you actually get on a bike and go around town and look at
things.
No, this is this has actually been my excuse to time. Now, I
do want to point out that the chicks at this place are
dynamite. Oh, and if you're in the back row, best seat in the
house.
The old horn dog in the back row. That guy in the back that
guy with his hand. Okay. All right. Enough of
that. Yes. Enough.
I know if I tell you. So if I might have a couple of just a
little segway clip from dead then you know what happened?
Yes, yeah, heart attack. So it goes to show the I'm just gonna
just want to play just a little aside, because it's kind of
funny. But it's, you know, this guy's been on the YouTubes for
years. And all he does is prove what Jay Leno proved, like 20
years ago that you can go out on the street and find a bunch of
idiots it'll say, you know, or do anything. Just just like the
whole country is filled with these clowns. And
it's also how you edit it, you just you leave it but this guy
actually added
this kind of fairly, it seems so but yeah, you gave a bunch of
people telling you to get lost. But this is the petition guy. I
cut it down just to the minimum. But this is the kind of thing
you can do in the United States of America very easily
when you sign a petition to help get the illegals out of jails
and prisons and support Obama. They deserve a second chance.
You know, murderers, burglars, rapists. They all deserve Yeah,
sign there to please birthdate and assign these these rapists,
murderers and burglars, they all deserve a second chance anyways,
and I'm sure they are hard workers too. They do. Thank you
for supporting that.
I've seen this guy he also he doesn't yet. I saw one where he
went like Obama wants to repeal the first second, third and
fourth amendment. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah, great.
That's great.
Petition, you know, these petitioners come around every so
often there are always like, CalPIRG and some of these
horrible operations, which have brought us the bottle bill, so I
have to pay six cents every time I buy a, you know, a bottle of
water or anything this?
Is that Mark Dice. Is that who that guy is? Yeah. He's the guy
that drove by the Walmart and said, you're a lazy slave. He's
a funny guy. I think he's pretty funny. Now he's funny,
he's ever these are these kind of a stone faced, deadpan and
yeah, as a really good job. So they come by I never signed
petitions. No, of
course not.
I don't sign any of these petitions. I figure there's just
a hit list.
Here's my standard answer. And I've gotten really good at it.
And awesome. For some reason. We have this a lot. Like, would you
like to sign a petition against drugs? Like no, I use them? I
like him. And would you like to sign a petition to save whales?
No, I think we should kill them all. I always do that. And
Mickey doll. She's hit. She hits me when I do this. But I can't
help but it just whatever they say. I'm very good at
immediately coming back with the exact opposite. And that just
would.
Yeah, they would always be baffled. Yeah, I can see these
guys going. I stupidly did this is you're doing the right thing.
Because I stupidly get into a conversation with him. Oh, no.
Yes. So now that you mentioned it, I'm an idiot for even
thinking to do well. It's also 100
degrees in Austin. So when we're on the street, you know, I'm not
going to stop and talk to you in 100 degree heat. That's why I do
that.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to do I don't know what I'm gonna add to
the little personality tweak I have to make So someone says oh,
would you sign this petition with it? No. I think it's great
the way it is. You I realize I'm done. The guys aren't gonna say
anything more to me. I just
have this is one of those those little quirks those little
things I can do. I'm very good at no matter what you throw at
me on the street, I'm gonna come back and tell you that I love
the exact opposite.
Yeah, I have to work on that. That's a good very good advice.
Yeah, that's good advice. All right. I got an ask Adam.
Oh, do we do we need one we can probably do a jingle. I don't
know if I alright.
Okay, I've got a clip that I pulled that I want you to tell
me who did the clip. And this is sounds like an ad. This is the
DOM clip and Aska. Dom, you have to tell me what it's about.
Okay. And who did it?
Okay, so I have. So this is an asked DOM because that's why
it's labeled, and what it's about and who did it what it's
about and who did it for $35.
You make sacrifices every day for what it is you're trying to
build. So I've always been interested in building things
and solving problems. That's the joy of creating something new
that hopefully other people find us. I'm so passionate about what
I do. It wasn't just
enough to come up with the idea and sell to somebody else. What
would a better way of doing this look like you ask forgiveness,
not permission, you go at it. But every once in a while you
sit back and say, Oh yeah, we're maybe curing cancer like that.
That feels pretty good. Our
aim is to really lead a transformation in cancer care
world's first peer to peer car sharing marketplace highly
focused communities, you know, built around super fan
protecting
the agriculture industry from the impact of bad weather. We're
an online marketplace that connects people that want to buy
things custom and the people that make it we help people
discover things inside of places. We're gonna change drug
discovery and solve a lot of the world's health care questions.
This is what brings the world together. Let's give it a shot
and see what we can do. You give him a lot
of things to get to that point, but there isn't really a price
that could be as much fun as building exactly what you want
to build it to show it to the world and have people love what
you're doing. That's that's the best thing for an engineer.
Okay, I have not seen this ad but I'm pretty sure it is for
Windows RT.
What do you mean, you're pretty sure it's your windows? It's got
nothing to do with Windows
online marketplace where we can cure cancer that sounds to me
like Microsoft marketing.
You're gonna have to just beep the beep The buzzer. wrong,
very wrong. What was this? The Google maybe or Amazon?
It was Google. Oh, it was all their guys that were within
their Google Ventures. These are all the people, the partners in
Google venture. Wait
a minute, you're telling me that that twerp is now claiming that
he can cure cancer? What's his name? That raccoon twerp
I don't know who the guy there's they show different people.
What's his name? Kevin Rose raccoon tour. Oh,
no, no, Kevin Rose.
He's a venture his
was he just was we allow we help you. You listen to it again. If
you want basis, we help you discover things inside of
places. Oh, that was Kevin Rose. Now the funny thing about this
hold on before I heard Kevin Rose on that tweeter show. And
it sounds like his job is to only have coffee with people.
Oh, what do you think it is? It's a coffee club because
he kept saying the klatch he actually said
no no I'm gonna drink in clubs
before I have coffee with a founder or like Wow, is that
like a new swingers club or something coffee with a founder
now here's the joke good to me the thing and I think is kind of
sick ironic and also like racist and I'll bring it up. There's
one black guy now that guys are curing cancer. They're helping
you what is the black
guy doing?
What is he doing like Guy says he is involved with developing a
highly focused communities built around superfans.
Like instead of air conditioners you mean
know what he means? It means this fine day hip hop group even
more
Wow. Wow.
The black guy this the hip hop stereotypical bull crowd
unbelievable. So he gets to he gets to work with super fans
while everybody else gets to work your your cancer
and was rose again, finding things inside of seeing
things inside of places.
And where did this air with this was a national spotlight but oh
online. Okay, well, I have to watch this thing. I suppose so.
So I wasn't for it. So my initial thinking wasn't far off
the mark. It's like this is typical Silicon Valley. We're
gonna you know, save the world and I thought I had Microsoft
Windows RT sounds like we're gonna cure cancer. Wow. So
Google Ventures is going to do that. You know, these guys are
smart to do this because their business model is drying up. I
look at the numbers Google I see what What's happening, and
you're gonna gonna have to, they're trying to morph now,
because they need to keep investor confidence, then to
keep people interested. Because the the pyramid scheme, the
house of cards that is there, illegal in my mind practices of
forcing websites into their webmaster program and getting
them on board and otherwise you're blocked from Google
result. And the whole thing is anti competitive, anti American,
I'll even say that it's falling apart. And they've seen that,
look, 10 years ago, 10 years ago, Blackberry was the shit. I
had a Blackberry, black, it was this it was this device. And you
could drive a car over it, and it might be scratched, but you
still had your email. And it was easy to write emails, and this
thing was wireless. And it was mind boggling. And they got into
the entire infrastructure of business and government. And it
only took Apple eight years, maybe Yeah, but seven or eight
years. And BlackBerry is dead, grim, the company is as good as
dead. This can happen to Google too, and put it in the book, it
will happen. We're going to get bit search. Now we already have
the bid torrent, the bid, sing the bid message, we'll get back
to it. And we're gonna get bid search. And it's all going to be
decentralized, because that is the nature of the network. It's
the nature of the beast. It happens every single time. So
self driving cars, glass, whole stuff. All of this is just
fodder. It's not there's no money in it. There's no money,
their money comes from a scam. And of course, no one really
reports on the hundreds of millions of dollars in fines
they have to pay for propagating, you know, illegal
pharmaceuticals online. That's barely reported on. I'm sorry,
Jeff Jarvis must have missed that one. To scam?
Well, you have a thing about online advertising being a scam.
And I have to say that it's it doesn't. I was the last time you
clicked on anything, or even read these things that people
zoning out over these things. And on the Google, they affected
I think a good evidence of this in my browser and one of my
machines, I had that I loaded something because I needed some
utility, but it also screwed with my browser. So now, anytime
I this is the this is a classic, I gotta get rid of this. So if I
type in my the URL I want, it immediately jumps to being
Oh, you know, there was Skype, you upgrade to Skype, you didn't
pay attention to what they said, This almost happened to me. And
I went to a screen I hit Next. And then I saw Oh, my God. It's
being and toolbar like no. But then I went back and there was
something else that had asked me which I just clicked through,
you know, people, poco people.
So you got to the real point of this is that, if you and I've
and I've always said this about spam, too. If you have to trick
somebody. Yeah. To get into this is the same case, with downloads
all these you know, you want to download of utility, it's a free
download free download, go to CNET. And they get download
buttons all over the page. And you have to dig to figure out
which one to click on. Because you click on any other one, you
get some piece of crap you don't want. Well, this
was real networks business model has been his business model for
the past 10 years. And they just came out with it because they're
public company, they lost like $80 million, whatever, because
the scam is now falling apart real networks. And when's the
last time you played real audio or real media clip? You know,
they were bundling all of their crap into their player, you
wrote a great article, although I'd like to expand on it,
because it is it is very, very relevant to lava bit and, and
all of the things that people think that they have to be a
part of in this online world, which you really don't have to
be a part of. And it was essentially you said that, look,
Amazon knows who they really know everything about me yet, on
the Kindle, and by the way, I have the same cheap as Kimble
Kindle. And they've got the ad for me on the front page is
steal like an artist like Brilli that your Amazon doesn't even
know really what you want. And the whole idea of targeted
personalized marketing is a scam. And Amazon has figured
this out that there's no way to really do it properly. So
they're now just resorting to spam. And that's really what
works as spam works. It's just a fad, because
it's cheap. And you can just broadcast everywhere, which is
essentially why TV advertising works. It's a spam. And here's
something interesting. So of course I've been I've been I
rebuilt my entire email server. So you get deep into the guts of
it and you start looking at stuff again, and what's getting
through and what's being rejected. And I used my, you
know, I obviously use the little iPod touch device I've been
using instead of a phone. I use it in Italy and France. And
somehow the spammers are and I use it on like restaurant, Wi Fi
networks and the Airbnb networks. There was no other
real open networks that I can recall. Using although just
having your Wi Fi on. And this has been shown in the UK now
where the you know, they've got and this is all over the place
you go into a shopping mall, your MAC address is being
collected because you have your Wi Fi on being you know, they
they got your MAC address. And so they know they're tracking
you throughout your experience. I am getting spam related to my
MAC address because now all of a sudden I'm getting Italian spam
and French spam is not becoming Austin in Austin.
Right? Yeah, they don't know where you are. It's crazy. And
you do have you know way they there's ways of determining this
this reminds me of the somebody or you may have been you who
mentioned that, you know Amazon being so you know, they have the
information on you if they want to do targeting. And
it's so piss poor. They always give me they didn't I noticed
something Yeah, bought it. You just bought it in, then you get
ads about what you just bought? Yeah, you just you
just you buy a camera, and then you use pummeling you with ads
to buy the camera, you just bought the camera.
Exactly. So this, this is part of the big secret is it doesn't
work. There's billions of dollars being stolen from
advertisers and from consumers. And just waste of my time just
taking my time. It's all just it's not working. And you know,
and that's what I liked about your article is essentially,
Amazon's seen it, they're the ones who can really know, Google
doesn't know shit about me really, really. And this, it's
the reverse, the government is doing the exact reverse. They
since they can't actually target an individual terrorist. They're
doing the opposite of spam, which is they're doing suck.
It's like let me just swallow everything and then see if we
can find some nuggets of some chunks of goodness in there.
Right? So you're right, that's a good analogy. This is exact
opposite the exact opposite of just sending out a bunch of crap
that you hoped you get a lead, you just suck in a bunch of crap
and hope you get a lead and the same thing only reversed. Isn't
it interesting
that if you reverse the word spam, you get maps.
There you go. Well, anyway, so that was annoying, to say the
least.
But a great ad. I liked that a lot. I liked the ad.
So anyway, okay. That's your ask Adam. Here's,
here's a little history lesson, which I think we should be
talking about. And this is this is not really an ask John, I'm
gonna throw it back to you. Because of course, this was I
think 1972. And this was on CNN now. Now, we got to talk about
CNN a little bit. Because CNN has had their lowest ratings
ever. And I kid you not, was the head of it? Um, let me see the
guy who ran NBC into the grounds Zucker? Yeah, he's really only
27,000 viewers in the demo. That's 25 to 54. Wow. I mean,
that's so they had 300,000 Viewers total, but it was like,
maybe it was seven, it doesn't matter. You know, like, okay,
let's maybe I'm mixing not made with 72,000 of the demo. It's
not even a 10th of a ratings point. That's in the demo, and
the demo means where the money is. So the first thing I'll do,
actually, I'm going to reverse this. This is something that you
pointed out and and I think it was the History Channel or TLC
or whatever it was. We had the the reality show The Housewives
smoking cannabis. Right, right. Cannabis, cannabis, cannabis. So
CNN, and I've done the research on this. A CNN is in deep, deep,
deep trouble. I have it here. It was announced. I have the
headline here. CNN garnered its second lowest primetime ratings
of the year among adults 2554 On Thursday, August 8 2013,
averaging 76,000 adults in the 25 to 54. Viewers from eight to
11pm. That's, that's in a three hour time period. Pearson
believable here's Morgan live delivered one of its 10 lowest
rated episodes of the year with 71,000 adults in the 25 to 43.
Demo. So we have more listeners. Yeah, Piers Morgan. So
first of all, i from i Now, executive order, I veto, no more
Piers Morgan clips unless he pays us because it is, you know,
this is this, we can't be promoting this guy anymore. So
we got to stop with that. And I'm in and he'll be he'll be off
back to the UK very, very soon. So now I'm reading so I'm like,
I'm interested because there's something came up. Something
happened. And and it's related to this. So here's CNN reboots
to grab non news ad dollars. And this is a stories and I know
where I used to be in this business. So I know where to get
all these stories. And this is about you know, new President
Jeff Zucker has been trying to remake CNN into a network that's
essential everyday rather have been watched only during news
events. So you nutans new programming strategy lends
itself to go after dollars that are not traditional news. So
they're really trying to do something here because they're
in trouble. And they didn't even do an upfront, which means, you
know, they didn't even have an advertiser blow job session. But
they, the news came out that CNN advertising revenues are now
down. And we're talking shocking, like 10 to 15%. And it
always takes a while when the ratings go down, because of how
stuff is bought out in the future. So see, and and now
we're in trouble. And see, and this came out, because you know,
Time Warner released their numbers, the quarterly numbers,
and they don't typically break stuff out like this. But for
some reason they did, which I think is also a big fu to Jeff
Zucker. And they broke it out and CNNs revenues were like
around three and a million dollars very, very poor, down 10
to 15%. So knowing what you and I know about how the business
works, and we've discussed this about we've seen this happen
with other entities, even online entities. When you want to get
an advertiser in, there's two ways you can do it. One, which
is often very effective is strap on the kneepads and open your
mouth. And I bet I've done this many, many times, for all kinds
of ventures to get the ad Whoa, yes, well, della will make it'll
be great. It'll be your branding everywhere. In fact, I will have
the Budweiser logo tattooed on my ass just for you. Just Just
give us your order. Or you can start kicking against one of the
largest advertisers. Now, the pharmaceutical industry spends
around $5 billion a year in the United States alone, and on
television advertising, which is also deemed their most effective
advertising. And it's it's the usual suspects. It's Amgen, it's
Allergan, it's Johnson and Johnson. And it's all these
guys. And I have been missing it somewhere. And of course, when I
heard this report come out, and the stunning news, I knew what
had happened.
It was for a long time. And this
is Sanjay Gupta, who has come out with a documentary called
weed. And he has decided that he has been wrong all along that
medical marijuana these years medical marijuana has actual
factual scientific medical benefits over those nasty
pharmaceuticals and pretty
critical I've written magazine articles and, and other things.
When you look at the medical literature, there's some 20,000
papers that will pop up Victor on medical marijuana, the vast
majority of greater than 90% of them are designed to look at
harm, the problems, the perils of marijuana, and about 6% or so
to look at the benefits, that's what I found. And that paints a
pretty distorted picture. That was that was a distorted
picture. I realize now in retrospect, it took for me
getting out of literally out of the country, looking at labs and
other countries that are doing some remarkable research. And
also talking to a lot of patients, I mean, legitimate
patients with legitimate problems. I probably too easily
dismissed them as just being malingerers, who were trying to
get high. And when you come to find out these are legitimate
patients for whom marijuana works, and nothing else did. Oh,
sudden, you know, the attitudes start to change, because then it
becomes a question of responsibility. We got to, you
know, providing actual care for people. And you say we were
systematically misled. I think we have been even, you know, in
this country up until 1943. Marijuana was on the the
Pharmacopoeia, which is what doctors used to prescribe
medicines. For the last 70 years, you know, it's been
progressively sort of demonized thought of differently made a
schedule one drug, you use the most dangerous substances in the
country. And I think that that, you know, there was a lot of
things going on in the late 30s and early 40s. That may have led
to that. But I think the end product to your question is that
we simply haven't gotten accurate information about this.
There's real science here science and that needs to be
injected in this conversation. So so
I'm blown away by this. You had to play that clip of the week.
That's well,
well, I have I have a reduction. Okay. You don't care, you don't
care. That's fine. Okay,
but here is incredible.
But here is Sanjay. And because you know, we got to step it up.
We got to go to primetime, which is 6000 viewers more over a
three hour period. We're going to hit broth. Now we're with
broth to promote the WWE documentary.
That's a good point. I know you did a lot of research for this
documentary that will air this weekend. Is there concrete
evidence, though? Concrete scientific evidence is that
medical marijuana works better at treating certain medical
conditions than for Masuda called drugs.
I mean, rough was a he's like, just say, you know just why
don't just name the drugs broth,
I believe there is when I seen examples of it. First of all,
I've seen the studies. So this isn't just anecdotal
information, anecdotal knowledge anymore. There are studies to
back this up. But I think I'll give you a couple of quick
examples, please, with regard to something known as neuropathic
pain, neuropathy, that can be that sort of pins and needles
sort of feeling burning lancinating, as my patients have
described it, feeling in your limbs, it can be very hard to
treat. And the way that we often treat it now in this country is
to use medications like narcotics, you know, Poppy
derivatives, such as morphine, Dilaudid, Oxycontin,
he's going after everything. He's going after the poppy. This
is
shameless. I mean, I and his lies he knew all this long time
ago. Yeah, he's either a denier,
we know that more, marijuana can actually have a significant
benefit towards treating this sort of pain. Sometimes it can
work. And not only work, but it can work when those other
medications didn't work. And there's something else that I
think makes this very, very relevant, Wolf, and that is when
he talks about these narcotic pills. Someone dies of an
accidental overdose in this country every 19 minutes. Wait,
wait, wait. Oh, no, it gets better. I'm taking these
prescription type pills. When we did our research, we could not
find any evidence of a death from marijuana overdose. The
drug that works if a drug that may work better than what else
is out there. We have a drug that from a from a critical
safety profile appears to be safer. Pulling up already.
Science
talking point, I just want to I want to tell everyone something.
Because you will hear oh, the government has the patent on
medical marijuana. It's to do with no. This is one thing and
one thing only. This is the last ditch effort by CNN last ditch
to get the pharmaceutical industry back on board. Because
they're not advertising on snowman. They're not the same
thing
that happened in the good marriage. America. Good Morning
America show. They and this is what you do. You got two routes
when you're a publisher, one, you knuckle under whatever the
advertisers telling you to do you do it. Or the advertisers
bail out and you go after him. And this is Jay get back on
board. Right. That's what they're doing. But it's not
going to happen. This
is Jeff zone. I
don't think so. Because nobody the numbers are so low. Nobody
accepted people, listeners Darsh. We got more listeners to
those clips than they did. Yes.
And the funny thing is, they're providing our material. This is
great. It's so this is Jeff Zucker pulling out his balls and
swinging him around like I'm Jeff Zucker. And we're gonna get
him back. And it's going to fail. It's going to fail. And so
so look at the writing's on the wall people look at look at the
models look at, you know, the Boston, the Boston Globe, what
is it the Boston inside or was that newspaper,
but the Boston Globe? What about it? Yeah.
We got to we got to Bezos buying the post for way overvalued. It
was probably also worth about 60 70 million, but even $250
million. Like okay, well,
that's it as a lot as a as a lobbying tool. Yeah, no, but
it's still but even that is you overpaid. And you're going to
see this systematically come cold, go listen to listen to
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something you probably won't hear. But the European Union
passed a law last week, actually. And I didn't even
notice it came a little late. It's called the baleen law. And,
and there's something interesting with this. So this
is about banks going kaput. And there has been some rumors that
the Deutsche Bank is, you know, on suicide watch and all this
stuff. But pretty much, if not underreported, pretty much just
not reported at all, is the new bail in law. And this is your
buddies, Barroso of Unreal employ. And the Lithuanian
president I guess, who came out with with the the new ruling, if
a bank fails? Let me see I have it here. No depository Big or
small, will in future be able to feel safe? With the money
deposit in the bank? Because tax payer second words it? For some
reason, the print in this is too small. My glasses are not
focusing properly. Was it up? Yeah, hold on. Let me what I can
do is I can make it bigger. It's one of those notes a PDF that
isn't that's a scan and it's not a PDF? It's not a you still make
it bigger? Yeah, no, I know. But you get the computer freezing on
me. Anyway, the gist of it is I can't give you the exact
language here for a second. The gist of it is that just like
Cyprus, the the creditors and investors in a bank will be
paying for the debts if a bank collapses. Now, that is not
entirely unexpected, because we kind of knew that was going to
happen. But what turns out is that this was set up in the
member when I read the the Lisbon Treaty. And it seems like
everything's hunky dory, but you go and you find the protocols.
And the protocols is where it says, you know, if you have a
communicable disease, like the flu, or if you're alcohol like
the you get locked up forever, and all this crazy crap about
the EU, which no one knows about. So they have these
directives. In the European Union, it's a legal document.
And I have this one that 2012 January, I think it's the fifth
or the 15th. cod, which is the EU directive. And this is a
year, almost a year before the Cyprus bailout. The the law that
was just created was based upon this directive, which talks
about these Baylands were in any case, if the institution under
resolution fails and does not have sufficient funds to repay
depositors, the universality of proceedings ensure the equal
treatment of creditors irrespective of their
nationality, place of residence, or domicile. In other words, you
could conclude that the Cypress bail in was a test to see if
anyone would really make any waves, and that they were
expecting to set this off. It was a setup essentially.
Yeah. Well, I don't didn't we come to that conclusion with the
idea first,
and now we have the proof because now they have the draft
proposal. They have the law, it'll get passed. I mean, I
don't even know how they vote on stuff like that, but it'll get
passed. And, you know, I think we can see there's a couple of
Italian banks that are very weak right now. I mean, this is you
Are October thing, John, I think it'll start in Europe?
Well, I'm still hoping we can avoid this October because that
pushes things way off. Yeah, it could. I think they'll weasel
their way out of it somehow.
Oh, I mean, at a certain point, you this whole idea? Well,
that's,
that's why you have if you can do it, how is the wrong
question? assume it's done with some whatever, you know, some
plan or scheme with herbs. You as the ideas have put it off to
you, you have to put a collapse off as long as you can. I mean,
especially in today's world, because it would create a domino
effect. A Domino. Yeah, massive domino effect, which would bring
everything to a standstill. I mean, if you think the 2008 2009
situation,
yo, compared to what's really going to happen. Yeah. Because
that was
that we essentially clawed our way back with you with all kinds
of essentially printing money. Yeah.
You know what they need to do? Good. You know what they need to
do? They need to jigger it. That'll work.
I got it, I got another kind of an ask Adam thing. Here's a
little little aside. Okay. I want I decided to have a new
kind of a new quiz. And what I want you to do is I want you
play two different clips. And I want you to spot the elite. So
we're going to pick two clips from two different people. All
right. And of the two people you have to spot the elite, I have
come to the conclusion that the way you because everything's a
milieu. And so people's kind of talk, they talk, they have the
meal you speak, they talk with the they start to develop
characteristics of the meal, you and the lobster in the meal you
absolutely the more they talk like it. Yes. And so let's play
the two clips I got. What does an elite sound like? Question
number one, that's just a little clip. I'll tell you it is later
but this is tell me if you'd for sure, listen to him. Then you
listen to the next guy and tell me which of the two is the elite
of these opportunities that I want to highlight this morning,
along with some of the education reform lessons that we're
learning here every day in the US. In the digital age, we have
game changing technologies that can help teach us to personalize
learning. Okay, and now I play number two.
Now, here's number two.
Is this guy.
So I'd like to welcome everyone to Brookings. My name is Jakob
Ahmed. I'm a trustee. And we're very honored to have Ambassador
Froman with us today. Ambassador Froman just assumed the role of
US Trade Representative in June, and before that he served in the
White House as the Assistant to the President and the deputy
national security adviser for international economic affairs.
Should I be
thrown at all John by the apparent stick the man hearts up
his art hole?
I like the way it says the word God I can't even do that. In
June, June. Yes, I would say that the trustee and the
Brookings is a jigger
the June
much more likely to be an elite than Arne Duncan, who can't even
pronounce words correctly.
jigger the June I tell you,
Director of Education Secretary can't even spell
this is so much more apparent in Europe. And it's only that you
bring this up but I'm thinking about it how it also the UK you
know the the mouthful of rocks, the hot potato, the rock. And
that is the milieu and in Old World is where you see that.
Really it's much more prevalent, but I think people are immune to
it. They're immune. These people have no clue. They're the first
ones to die, by the way in the collapse.
Oh, yeah. No, they're the ones that get their heads chopped
off. Well, if not
that, then they're the ones that show up on the stick. I don't
know how to cook. Me. Yes, that's true. Oh, so here's my
history lesson. I was gonna go back to CNN. Yes, it's
always a good topic. This
was Well, this was really interesting, because it relates
to Snowden. And this is something happened in the Nixon
White House. 72. Is that possible is that I'm just saying
this White House would be seven. Yeah. Right. 72. And he has so
you know, how President Obama. All the presidents have had
this, by the way, but most recently, President Obama he's
got like Stevie Wonder, like everyone, you know, hanging out.
It's Prince, you know, as a principle of being an apprentice
should be there. Pretty. I mean, everyone's performing at the
White House now, which is incredibly elitist. It really is
and it's all to pay them. And it's all like blues Heritage
Month or You know, protect the American music assess society
something or other. And it's just a free concert for elites
is what it is. But this has always been going on. And so now
we'll go back to a Nixon Republican I believe 1972 And
something wonderful happened and it was an incident I'd never
heard of it. CNN, uh, thank you Jeff Zucker for putting this on
CNN last night, I'm sure No, I'm sure I was the only person
watching. But it was interesting. And I learned
something. Play Why is it not playing? What happened? Weird,
you didn't learn that much. Here we go. Here we go.
And now to commemorate this event we have as our special
guests tonight, the ray Cohn of singers. It's very difficult to
describe the most of you have heard them. And at the music is
square, it's because I like it square.
By the way, no difference between Obama and Nixon always
talking himself down on square.
Now what you're seeing is the ray Cohn of singers is about 20
Beautiful. Now imagine 60s Cuz it's the 70s. But the girls are
like 60s hair, you know, sexy, sexy, sexy, and, and they're all
coming on stage for re kind of Himself comes on stage. And all
of a sudden, two of these girls hold up a handmade sign like
made out of a pillow, pillow case.
President Nixon, stop bombing human beings, animals and
vegetation. You go to church on Sundays and pray to Jesus
Christ. If Jesus Christ were here tonight, you would not dare
drop another bomb. Bless the Americans and bless Daniel
Ellsberg.
Now, do you remember this incident, John? Where she's so
but
I have to say I can just imagine the meeting afterwards. Well,
Nixon, who was a foul mouthed character
I have. So you know, Nixon recorded a lot of stuff. I'm
reliably informed. I have a six minute phone call, which if you
want, it's in the show notes, or we could play it as a play play
now. Oh, you really want to hear it now?
What was it about this incident?
Yes. Well, he so Okay, so did you hear what the girl said at
the very end there? Yeah. said God bless Daniel Ellsberg. Yeah.
Okay, then just give everyone the relevance because I'm not
sure everybody else. There is
the time he dropped the pentagon papers on the public. And the
Nixon administration was going after him in every way possible.
And, and Nixon was always has been recorded a number of times,
saying We gotta get that son of a bitch Ellsberg. And it's
probably even on this clip, I'm sure. And he was just just
beside himself about these Pentagon Papers. So he was
trying to get, you know, the war, which had been pretty much
done made maximized by the Democrats in Nixon was trying to
unwind the damn thing. But he was pulling all kinds of stunts
to do it. And he didn't need this distractions as the way he
saw it.
So there's a couple of things about this clip that we just
heard. And so this was on see it was beautiful to see. Where are
the artists? Okay, the creative community who stand up to this
current president say, Mr. President, stop the droning,
stop the killing, stop killing people and plants and life in
general. Stop doing it illegally. Stop. Don't just
stop.
Yeah, where there are there are a couple of bimbos on the array
kind of singers have the guts to do it.
So here is not now you want to hear the meeting. So I guess,
I'm not sure who he's talking with what maybe I have it hold
on a second. Maybe I can tell you who he is talking with. This
is a white house phone call. And it's John Connolly. Maybe? I
don't know. Okay, yeah. From Texas. Correct. So this was the
day after, and I guess John Connolly was sick or his wife
was sick and couldn't be there, and tech and now and here's
Nixon, talking to him about what happened. It's stopped me if it
gets boring, but I listened to this. I was just stunned by the
conversation. Here's what and I think our current president is
probably just as bad as this. Here we go. January 29 1972.
Whoa, I got to the minute we pick up the paper you read and
you missed one of the most interesting things. You had the
right kind of singers. And before the they came out in the
stage one girl with their hair down or waist or they're about
16 singers. And they're all pretty girls. Nice looking guys
and so
horndog to is nice to have a pretty girl hair down to her
waist and nice looking guys too. He's bisexual, Nixon
kind of signature kind of square type. She stepped up and stepped
out in front of them into this shock of everybody on hung out a
homemade sign on cloth saying stop the killing. And he says,
Mr. President, stop the killing if you believe in Jesus Christ,
man and man halls and children and Vietnam and she said that
and then she said, God bless Daniel Ellsberg God bless the
American brothers. And then step back. You can't imagine the
shock and you remember the earth that you read in the Post this
morning? And even there it's it's the auto jet well, then
what happened is poor Ray kind of came out on his and they had
their first number and there was icy coldness nobody in that
crowd popped by clap of course but very good. And kind of says
I just want you to know that I didn't plan that first and act
and he says we're all at most of they're proud to be here at the
White House and so forth and then somebody in the crowd I
think it was all jacmoe case as well then act like it and then
and then somebody else back in the room to my utter amazement
said throw the bomb out. And then several people said throw
around so can and kind of on his own asked her to leave and she
left you don't read it this way. This happened at the White House
last night. i You told me what she missed them this thing that
can you imagine? I asked Manola you know about you know, he's
getting he's my man check. I said, Well, you think he's heard
about your budget button, the seven o'clock news.
Now, okay, so now he's gonna get really now now the foul mouth
comes out.
You're gonna pass the knowledge to clean it up a little. Now the
Spanish have wonderful profanity. And she says she's in
the ESA booth. And I know what that means. That means that
means that daughter before and you just know she's worried she
says Medusa is a great big heart. And, and he said she
acted like a streetwalker. Isn't that interesting? I don't know
what the heck, they're coming to
you that he just threw the paper down. He said, It's a good
thing. I wasn't on board now.
All right, you're bored. I can listen to that stuff forever. So
you got to have me cut it off.
It's in the it's in the show what happened with Eartha Kitt.
By the way, he referenced something there that I didn't
know about either.
Was I recall, Eartha kitsch. He was, of course, with a black
president. I bet you this wouldn't have happened. But she
was extremely outspoken about the war. And I think it cost her
some work.
But what did she do something at the White House? Not
maybe she may have also done some at the White House? You'd
have to look it up under?
No, you mean the whoops, hold on a second.
It would be in the book of knowledge. Someone would put it
in her bio.
Let me see. Let me see White House. White House during the
administration of Lyndon B Johnson kid encountered a
substantial professional setback that this is what so it's this
is how isn't that interesting? You said it caught whatever it
was it cost her some work. So that was the that was the meme
that you were programmed with. And that's all that's left over.
After she made anti war statements during a White House
luncheon kid was invited to the White House luncheon was asked
by Lady Bird Johnson about the Vietnam War, she replied, You
send the best of this country off to be shot and maimed. No
wonder the kids rebel and take pot. a newfound respect for
Earth a kid. So where are these people? No. Instead, we have Jay
Z and Beyonce blowing the first family. How sad is that people?
Where's Jay Z? The voice of a generation standing up and
saying this is wack? Yo. That's my Jay Z. Yeah. Instead, instead
they're part of the fascist movement of collusion and
collaboration. Yeah, no, all
of the all interstate all Hollywood
is disgusting is what it is. This is totally disgusting.
But even back then there were only a few people. I mean, there
was this woman on the right kind of singers who probably could
track down and find that she was beating dead dead. Dead dead or
as a kid, you know who got
to isn't isn't Earth.
I think she's dead by now. But that's from old age. Not from
yeah, see? If she did. Yeah, she died in December 25 at 81 and
2008.
I remember I remember some of her earlier well for me early
stuff she was well she was she Cat Woman?
Yeah, she was cat one man the Batman's Right, right.
Right. Right, right. She was she was always a bit crazy. But was
she crazy? No. Turns out she was saying good stuff.
She She had a very stylish style of singing very, yes. It was
like a French Shantou.
Yeah, she was kind of the original Grace Jones I would
say, what didn't she do strange? I've seen that face before. I
don't
know maybe anything to get you've stopped singing well,
yes, it was.
Yes, yes, that would be it. Stop it. Stop it now. So, so anyway,
so this is when next time you go to download a song from the
iTunes or the Amazons, you know, think about these people. And
where is the protest? Where where are the protests, songs?
Even I was talking with someone, one of our new restaurant open
Oh, really? Where
are the protest songs?
Do you do you know that it was George Michael. Interestingly, I
don't even know the name of the song. But he he ended his career
and he and of course, George Michael would very prolific song
right, I think one of the best songwriters of my generation.
And he did a video where Tony Blair was a lap dog sitting on
George Bush's lap. Do you remember that the first the
first Bush, a George W. Ministry remember the lap dog and it
ended his career and was like, man, you can't do that. That's
messed up, yo. And it ended his career and he and now he's just
smokes weed and falls out of his car all the time. But he that
was the last time I can remember a musician really protesting for
real like, really? Except
rigged against it. Well, you can't do it.
I'll give it to Kanye West. I'll give it to Kanye West. I
remember he would remember Kanye West and on TV. George Bush
hates black people. That was funny. I'm like, Yes. Yes. Good.
But that wasn't a protest and made and he also was portrayed
as an idiot.
Well, that's the problem. But he admitted it doesn't they
portrayed Eartha Kitt.
Okay, where's Michael Moore, who would receives an Academy Award?
And then the next thing you know, he's in front of the huge
audience that the Academy Award Ceremony bitching about Bush,
right. And then that ended to him for a while.
He got more work, he didn't really end him at all. But when
once Obama got and now he just kind of shows up. He doesn't I
don't know, I just doesn't seem to be complaining. So Versa,
firstly, and
I would say the own, it may be happening, but we're not hearing
about it. Well, that
could be true, because I got We've mentioned this on the
show. The you know, appeal to all the Muslims, they never
speak out, they never speak out, they just put up with all this
crap. And that's not true. If you really do some digging, and
you look at some websites, you go out there and the mainstream
Muslim community is got all kinds of nasty things to say
about the salon office and the harvests and all the rest of
them. And they bitch and moan and grow and Mitch vich and moan
and groan and the end, nobody cares to pick up on any of it,
they still, we still just only listen to the car operation
which is corrupted, and we don't pay any attention.
And to be fair, it's not like the protest music isn't being
made. It's not like the like it's not happening. Of course,
it's happening. And there's tons of it. But it's there's this
obvious segregation of the mainstream. And the thing that I
like is we're slowly watching it erode and fall apart around
itself and that it's going to take at least another 10 years,
unfortunately, but we'll still be around to see it. You see now
they're eating themselves. We have this ongoing struggle,
where CBS has now you know, we don't have CBS here. You know,
CBS has taken off the Time Warner Cable System, which means
Showtime has gone and so they're all eating themselves because
the whole economic system of advertising and money and just
the money system in general is falling apart. You know, it's
just falling apart and all at the end of the day all we'll be
left with just the internet and BitTorrent and hopefully
we win.
We'll be standing amongst the rubble, we won. When did we win?
Really? All right. All right now at least we had some good times.
But I ran into an interesting not that I don't want to keep
moaning and groaning about the media.
Oh, come on.
I ran into there was a very rare appearance of John lecarre a the
the spy novelist.
Which novel has he written which spy novel a lie? Well,
he's wrote the Russia house you know the ones that made in the
movies Russia house Tinker Tailor Soldier something or
other
Tinker Tailor told soldier by curious Yeah, that
guy and a lot of the made the he used to be the Mi five and then
mi six and then he was apparently going to be outed by
Philby, as as screwed I'm gonna go become a riot hater. And so
he did. He writes
The Spy Who Came in from the cold Fania that's his best
paying. They're famous. The deadly affair Call for the Dead
The Looking Glass War, Little Drummer girl Russia house Tailor
of Panama, rubber, but Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy day and those
are the big ones.
So he doesn't really do a lot of TV and each and every time he
does, he says is the last time I'm ever doing TV. Right? So
this time they tricked him by putting him on the radio, but
filming it with a webcam. No, they actually was privileged
well produced that the video it's on his website because he's
got a new book out. But I got I got I listened to it. The whole
thing is an hour. It's very entertaining, at least to me.
And he told me they asked him about this one specific question
about how hard is it to recruit spies? And why is it easy or
hard or whatever. And he he lays out a little explanation, which
I think was very interesting. But in there, he also has a
gaffe, where he, he tells that kind of leaves a little truth on
the table and then corrects himself and then goes on with
the explanation. The gaff is definitely interesting. But the
overall explanation is actually even more interesting
proposition that we could in the
right circumstances or be surprised, or is it as I had
perhaps taken a bit from your work, particularly earlier
workers sort of type of person was attracted to it? Well, I
think those there are all sorts of factors at fault at work.
There are all sorts of factors at work in this country. Still,
what did he say?
He says, there's all sorts of factors at fault.
There are all sorts of factors at fault. At work. There are all
sorts of factors in this country is still amazingly, if you bang
on the door of the average householder and say I work for
British intelligence, we need to use your top floor to look out
the window can't tell you why. Most people say once they're
satisfied by your identity, okay, go upstairs. Don't mess
with my daughter's room or something. But we all of us
instinctively incline towards the conspiratorial moment, and
quite simply the patriotic moment. We do have it. So the
Brits are very easily recruited. And it goes right back to
Imperial times when we had the Thin Red Line of the East India
Company. And so we had to learn to divide Princess against one
another. And we lived in a world of deceit. Add to that the
public school system, and you have a complete conspiracy. Wow.
Yeah, I just thought that was a great clip on
what happened which that'd be more. Yeah, that's it. Be sure
that was the whole thing.
Yeah. Okay. Why does the public school system that's a complete
conspiracy boom, Feeny?
I have a feeling that if I had had any type of academic
prowess, which I did not, I probably would have gotten a
recruitment visit. Yeah, probably. And now I think
they're really happy like, oh, yeah, God, God.
Crazy. We dodged the bullet
All right. I'm out. How are you?
I got some stuff on Africa that I can push to I would like to
push to the Thursday show
because you know, you had a whole thing for the show notes,
which I've put in there, but this is a economic hitman thing.
The economic hitman Oh, I did get some a little back and forth
going with the economic hitman who has some thoughts apparently
him in his in his girlfriend and they don't like Russia very
much. And I saw I sent him some clips of if people out there
want to have some fun, go to Best of Russian dashcam videos
out puts a couple ended up in the newsletter. I'll link to a
two or three of these, which are the best ones. Which will you
really have to be careful Don't you know take some heart
medicine before you watch these videos. You
mean this is this is the the everyone's dodging a bullet
basically.
Essentially, yeah, there's just cars being smashed and drunks
everywhere walking across the freeway plastered yeah then
getting hit.
Yeah, I love the trucks that overturn on the people and
stuff. It's pretty
it was one there was one after shadow and this one clip, which
I actually sent to the to our our friend. Where this is I
swear this is weird. It was like a big giant truck van. It was
like a one trailer van thing and a truck truck driving and a
little BMW like it was a three series or something. And the BMW
lost control and somehow slammed into into the side of this truck
and that truck flipped over and over and the BMW just sat there
didn't even looked like it was damaged. It should have been a
commercial for BMW could have been fake. Whatever the case
that we'll put that on Thursday's agenda. I think we've
got plenty of stuff.
Yeah. There's always there's always stuff to talk about. Ah,
there's cheese.
Well, let's play the here. Here's a little thing, a good
example of this idiots that are out there, you know, trying to
cause trouble. And it's about the gay, the gays and then their
protests about the Olympics and this is the boycott Russian
vodka, local story. Russian vodka,
protesters dumping a lot of Russian vodka in front of San
Francisco City Hall today and they want all of you to know
that you should be boycotting Russian products. They say why
because of new Russian laws that are anti gay, including one that
makes it illegal to talk to children about homosexuality. At
least protesters took aim at Stoli, that's the only law by
the way, but there's a twist here the vodka Company issued a
letter last month emphasizing the brand doesn't follow the
Russian laws and it has even sponsored gay events for years.
And they won't anymore
so this this is happening everywhere. This was a they were
doing this when we were in Amsterdam at the at the bars.
They're like I won't order Russian vodka. But of course,
everyone every leader has said and Stephen Fry, by the way, who
of course, he's he posts an open letter to the prime minister in
The Guardian. So here's the clearly on board with the
program because Stephen Fry is an intellectual and he can read
and he can certainly have someone translate the Russian so
he knows that this is not an act of pure law that says if you're
gay, we you know we you're you're like Hitler. However he
invokes Godwin's Law, which looked that up in the book of
knowledge that is ultimately the how you end every conversation.
Just throw Hitler in and you end everything. But let me say
something about Russia. Russia the age of consent in Russia,
this is from what I understand is 16 years old regardless of
sexual orientation. transsexuals, transgendered
persons are allowed to change their gender legally,
homosexuality not regarded as a mental illness like many other
places, not a criminal offence. single persons can adopt
children regardless of their sexual orientation. Try that in
America it is not like a given homosexuals can serve in the
armed forces without any type of Don't Ask Don't Tell any type of
restriction. You know, it's this is this is a propaganda stick
move. Which really distracts you from looking at Oh, I don't
know. Killing people with drones. Hey, sign
attention to Putin. Ah, did you see did you get in trouble?
Did you see what Putin did is a great video. He's so is his I
guess his Judo teacher is Judo ca died. And he's distraught by
this. And so they have video of him coming out of the I guess
the church or whatever. And you know, and they're ready to hold
open the door to his limo? And he's like, No. And he and
because he needs to walk alone. And he's and he's going to walk
home to you know to think about to reflect
whether limo limo follows behind. No, no,
you've got see this video because they've Of course, it's
obvious they've they've blocked off the street. So he's walking
down this huge Street. No one's on it. But him. Yeah. And then
they've got and then and then they've got the camera angle
down on the street pointing up at him as he does a walk by him.
And the whole thing is orchestrated. But it made him
look like you know, I'm reflecting. Troubled by my
mentor having passed. And it's like, really didn't mean the
people actually fall for this.
I bet they do. They fall for what we're doing here. So we all
want to listen in on your conversation. But here's
my prediction. My prediction is, after all the vodka prod
protests and everyone's oh, let's boycott the Olympics,
which is a big joke. The IOC has more power than the President
does. That's it that's the biggest money operation
organized the Olympics and you're never gonna see another
Olympics in the United States.
You get shot as what happens you boycott the Olympics that's not
going to happen. So I have a prediction. We're all going to
change our Twitter icons
much of a predict come on at the drop of a hat.
Come on, put it in the book.
Well, the thing is what the prediction based if you could
actually predict what what $1 Pink Yeah Oh, pink No, but
that's a breast cancer thing now so no, no, that's been a
surprise. Well, maybe that'd be a new cool maybe we
know maybe we need to create like we need to create one that
people can use. We have to hand it to them. A rainbow hammer and
sickle or some something like that. You know,
the icon changing it's just a color they gotta come up with a
color color.
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