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She is such a douche and an
idiot. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, August 15 2013
time you're getting donation

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media assassination, Episode
Five, three Niner. This is no

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agenda. Sync in my BM keys to my
BT sync here in the Travis

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heights hide out in the capital
of the drone Star State. Austin

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Tejas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry.

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And for brother Silicon Valley
where I'm nine dog biscuits over

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five I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.

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That's because you're pumping
out 35 whiskies. I was not doing

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ham speak, by the way I was.
Well, all the cool kids are now

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on the BM, you were talking
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Did you know what I was talking
about? No, let's just say

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I'm syncing my BM keys to my BT
sync.

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What does that even mean? Have
you

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not followed along with the new
bit message?

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No. Oh, my God. Oh, I'm sure I'm
missing out.

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Yeah, this Mollywood even wrote
about it and credited no agenda,

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which is

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like we invented this. No,

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no, we did not invent it. But
we're using it. We have a

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thriving community. So imagine.
Email, BitTorrent email.

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Okay, I'm imagining it. Okay.
That's

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what it that's what it is. So
you got an email client, and

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it's, it's peer to peer and
instead of an, you don't get

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like john@divorce.org, you get a
really long number. Which of

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course someone else can store in
their own address book is

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divorce hacker, whatever,

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do I get a Bitcoin? In fact, it
works on

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the same principle as Bitcoin. I
was trying to avoid that right

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off the bat. So you wouldn't
read it without getting at least

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to the crux of it. But it's
great. So it's email without any

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bullcrap email providers in the
middle, and, you know, because

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it's all encrypted, it's secure.
I mean, although I'm, I'm not

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that I'm not interested in so
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you know, there's like, no,
Google in the middle. It's just,

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it's like, you can send stuff
and you can use, you can

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broadcast to people who
subscribe to your address. So

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it's like RSS, and you could and
you can also kind of follow

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people like Twitter, and it's,
it's phenomenal. And of course,

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you know, the no agenda
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with with all you know, two
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it's really working. It's cool.
You have it on a thumb drive,

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you jam it into USB slot and
there's your your your

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spies now. Yeah,

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it's really good. I'm switching
to that as if you really want to

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say something to me, if you want
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have to get on the bid message.
And of course, you know, so you

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can also do channels just goes
through torrents or sometimes it

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work. Okay, so it's, it's just
like Bitcoin. So it's peer to

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peer. So it's like Bitcoin like
I was right. Yeah. And that's

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what I say it's the same system,
the same idea, the same except

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it has multiple streams, and
this couple of improvements over

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the original concept of do I
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to mind to get my address?

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No, but what is nice is when you
send someone a message and

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email, you have to you know,
there's a statement of work, so

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you're doing some encryption, so
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spammers.

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I would think, yeah, so this is

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this is really, it's, it's quite
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I sure it's very groovy. So I
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actually great. If you didn't
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systems to actually get your
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Well, the whole idea is that if
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email and if you just say here,
just use this a The only thing

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that's different is you don't
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address although those people
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stuff. So you know, so you can
use that it kind of defeats the

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purpose but the whole idea of of
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provider or the email
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nice. I like it and no spam and
of course we have this channel

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because you can set up channels
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ever since I've been blogging
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wrote us an article that we got
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showing up and of course,
question number three on the on

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the no agenda channel can you
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I do I get a number. No.

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Is JC D here yet? Oh. You gotta
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Come on. Don't be so skeptical.
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skeptical. I wish I said I'm
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Dutch. All right. If ever if you
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wouldn't be able to criticize me
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sarcasm, right?

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Because the Dutch always sound
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heartless,

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but they're not. No, they're all
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they have the sarcastic tone
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it's it's it is kind of annoying
the way it drives people crazy

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when they first go there. Like
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did they hate? That's what I say
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hate me?

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I did that to it. There's a
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bar of that service just elixirs
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it's only open on Fridays and
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What's the name of this place?

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I can't remember I got photos.
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has a name. But anyway, you go
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bunch of Dutch and this woman
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seems so mean. But she's me.
She's the worst case scenario

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for this. And actually got on my
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But it got on my nerves so much.
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all the Americans who got in
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I am not mean I don't care what
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I'm not mean to you. I love you
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from my vibes bottom too.

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there's a there's a very funny
book. What is it? It's like it's

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for expats. And it's I think the
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gave it to me or Sunday or
something like that. But it's a

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book about all of the crazy
things that Dutch expats say in

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America that are you know, that
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wrong.

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That's cool. You can imagine.
Hey, happy

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Virgin Mary teleported to heaven
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Is that right? Yeah, Virgin is
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It's the I'd never heard of this
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Oh, the assumption is the
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Yeah. So major Catholic.

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And, in fact, I think France,
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markets may be closed because
Trevor, who usually sends me

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like this financial tip sheet.
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know, happy, happy assumption of
married day. You know, I don't

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have anything today like,
Thursday. What's the problem?

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No, no, it's a big holiday. And
this, I guess, is where God

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said, Mary, your job is done.
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I you know, I think

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that's what it is.

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It's possible. I don't know what
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And why did you give it up?
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don't know. This is another
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remember why last time I went to
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adopt into a church I saw along
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Okay, okay. I don't remember
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quit. Wait a minute. Wait a
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really quit according to the
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Hold this. Hold on a second.
This is this is new information.

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Yeah. Were you raised a Catholic
by your parents? Oh, no. I

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chose to be a cat. No, I was.

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What? This makes so much sense.
When you were in third grade,

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and at this point, you're what
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Catholic guys.

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Yeah, they probably said
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They would have figured out

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let me guess You retched.
Here's, here's, here's a process

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like, Hey, what's this book?
Hmm. Several hours later, hey,

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this is pretty good. I think
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interesting. So the Assumption
of Mary into heaven, informally

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known as the assumption
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Roman Catholic Church, and parts
of Anglicism. It was the bodily

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taking up of the Virgin Mary
into heaven, at the end of her

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earthly life. So yeah, I find it
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Why? Well, because everybody had
been having supposedly they're

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just the souls in the spirits
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some person wandering around. I
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but that's not it's

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said to bodily she goes

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teleportation, exactly what I
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at then what is she going to do
now? Oh, hang it around. That I

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think you can move around a lot
faster if you didn't have the

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body hook to

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you. So according to the book of
knowledge, which you know, this

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thing has like links in it and
if you click on it, and it takes

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you to another thing, it's
really quite amazing. So they so

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they have this link for the
bodily taking up and you go, you

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click on that. It's amazing how
this works, and I get entering

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heaven alive. The concept of
entering heaven alive known as

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assumption is A belief held by
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traditions, it's not quite
English. Since death is

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generally considered the normal
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Earth, entering heaven without
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exceptional and usually a sign
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the individuals. Peyote, peyote
Pete, play T piety. What is

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piety? Wait, it's linked piety.
Its virtue. Wow, this Wikipedia

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Yeah, I use it all the time. But
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quite rely

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on it. You mean? It's not really
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That's a lot of bogus
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Assumption of Mary Paige has got
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So that's why anyway,
interesting to learn that, that

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you were when you were nine, you
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Yes, the decision. My parents
were in there. I, you know, my

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dad was a they were Catholics, I
think when they were kids, but

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they were never weren't the most
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Very, very skeptical. And
especially my father who said

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that this whole side of the
family quit going to church when

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they started, whether you had to
actually pay to get into the

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church is one church. In
Minnesota. You said you had to

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pay so that was it? Is that
where you're from? That's all I

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got fantastic. What we're doing
with this show, we don't know

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most like if you want to go to a
movie that you have, you got to

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pay

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up front to get a seat up front
with that with just only reviews

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We on this show, which I think
is a much more spiritual show

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than a typical movie. Thank you.
You don't have to pay to listen

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I think we're on that you do
with the Catholic Church with

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spirituality.

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There you go. Well, we're we are
working. We work a lot. We work

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on holidays. And now we're
working on the assumption

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we're working on that we work on
the Lord's Day. We work on the

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assumption we work. I know what
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we need money and afford not to
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Well. There's certainly enough
to talk about once again.

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Yeah, there's quite a few things
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on. It's kind of kind of a I had
kind of like research days

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before we go into the news. i
Let's just start right off the

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bat with something I think we
should do. Just to kind of

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lighten things up. Since we're
talking about religion. I mean,

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I have to go shift gears. I have
an ask Adam.

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Oh, hold on a second. I have an
ask Adam jinglun John's

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got a burning question. What
should we do as?

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Yes, you have a burning
question, John.

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Okay. You tell me what this is.

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Is that my cue? Yeah, that was.

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A No Yes. No. Once again

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Isn't he supposed to say I
buried Paul it's it sounds

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because it's one of those
numbers stations from the from

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the short waves. Yes. What

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do you think

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it's not though, apparently.
What is what is that? Uh huh. I

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don't know you. Oh, you stumped
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is a CAPTCHA.

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Oh, wow, did you? That's
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I never click on the little
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on the screen? No, is that what
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speaker?

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that's on the screen, which has
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This was I think, from Google,
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letters. Yeah, the CAPTCHA that
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yeah. Just don't read what is on
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That's interesting. How, how
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to to leave a comment? The
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And even if it is, you suck,
that you have to listen to that

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and, and the captions have to go
this hole is what is telling

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you, you know, I love them.
Please enter this word, these

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letters in sequence. And you
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actually have to go to your wife
like honey, what letter Do you

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think this is? It's defeating
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No, it's ridiculous. In fact,
many of these things are

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unintelligible and you can't
read them and you can always get

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it wrong and so on. No rung
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is now if the website actually
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about new rung rung, then it
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would kind of I would like

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more entertaining than it is.
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says 12 plus three equals Yeah.
Which I think is actually a

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better one. Although I guess you
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but this is this is to combat
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Yeah, mail and scrapers? Yeah.
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you learn something today,
people don't realize I read I

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never clicked on it. I just I
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could not read it for the life
of me. So I clicked on the

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little speaker.

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And what do you remember what
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you're trying to comment? I was
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to say hi, or, Hey, hey, I'm
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Yes, well, very nice. You know,
what we're kind of on on that

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track, then let's, let's eat
something very, very, almost

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disturbing happened. And, you
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Well, there's two parts of the
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people are, of course, listen,
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on the show, which on one hand
is really nice. They say, you

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know, this whole thing, this
whole trip you're on about the

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President and his, you know,
he's always saying his his

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number one priority is to
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like, no, and, you know, and and
we, of course, keep citing, you

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know, the the oath that he
takes, and you know, that really

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his only job is to defend,
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Constitution. And now people are
getting in my face about a John,

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which is a little annoying, and
they're like, Well, you know,

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it's he says, as commander in
chief, and said, Yeah, okay,

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Commander in Chief, and then I
usually just send them article

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to the United States
Constitution, where it shows

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what his duties are, as the
commander in chief, and have you

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ever looked at them as his
duties, the President's duties

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as commander in chief was

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to be the commander in chief,
he's not doing anything else. He

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just has meetings he's supposed
to, he's supposed to take them

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meetings. Yeah, here, here's the
president shall be commander in

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chief of the army and navy with
the United States, and of the

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militia of several states. So
whatever that means, we should

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figure that one out. When called
into the actual Service of the

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United States, he may require
the opinion in writing of the

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principal officer in each of the
executive departments so he can

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solicit memos. Right upon any
subject relating to the duties

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of their respective offices, so
he could say, Hey, could you

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please write me a memo but how
you're doing and he shall have

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the power to grant reprieves and
pardons for offenses against the

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United States, except in cases
of impeachment. And that's it.

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And that's it. So you know, this
whole this whole thing? It's,

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it's not true in cases of
impeachment. Yeah. So

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if he's being impeached, he
can't pardon himself. I think,

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what about if, the way I read
it, that means that Gerald Ford

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couldn't pardon Richard Nixon
abuse? That's all. It could be

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that ever got impeached.
Nevermind, it?

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Well, that's a nice
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interpretation. Boy, you almost
you're almost taking this in a

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different direction. In fact,
why don't we do that before I go

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anywhere? Let's go to hold her
then. So this was a very

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interesting thing that happened.
And the analysis of it, I think,

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is pretty much incorrect. Just
about everywhere. Attorney

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General Holder who is the he's
the He's the number one dude in

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the justice system in the United
States of Gitmo nation. And he

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does a speech at the ABA, the
American Bar Association, which

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is the lawyer guild,

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it was right here.

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Yes, it was it was in Moscone
Center, West. And the Hillary

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Clinton was she got an award.
She's a lawyer. And so she got

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an award and her face looks
great. It really does looks

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really

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nice. She doesn't, you know,
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And holder starts off with and
I've always wondered about the

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profession of law. I really love
reading legal documents, trying

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to understand them that the
internet has made it really,

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really easy to Google stuff and
find out you know, what things

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mean and look at case law and
really get a handle on stuff.

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And, you know, I think lawyers
go to school for a number of

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years, and they learn kind of a
different language, and then

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they can charge if if you can
get a job as a lawyer, which

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seems to be harder. You can
charge a lot of money for your

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services. You know, it's kind of
like an interpreter. But I found

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the the thing that Holder was
talking about, and I'm going to

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presume you didn't see it was
kind of like, really do you

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really think that you're all
that and a bag of chips from its

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earliest days, our republic has
been bound together by this

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system. And by the values that
define it. These values,

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equality, opportunity, and
justice under law, were first

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codified in the United States
Constitution. So now listen very

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carefully what he's saying here,
he's in this something that

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bothers me enormously because
I've always learned that our

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society here in the United
States is based on the

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Constitution, not on values.
I've heard this values thing,

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you know, you hear that a lot in
Europe, you know, what's the

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values of our society and nobody
values or, I mean, if you want

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to call the Constitution values,
okay, then so be it. But that's

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it, then then values equals
constitution. And there's not

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like some extra values thing
that go that's going around. And

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here he's saying, Well, it
started off with the

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Constitution, but really, you
know, you know, that was just

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kind of like training wheels.
And you know, you

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work that way. Before we go on
with that. Let me finish that

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thought. You know, what's
interesting to me about this,

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and I do have a holder clip too,
but it's a little different. Is

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that this is the kind of thing
that the Republicans began

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pushing. Yes. Which is value,
family value family, valuing the

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church back into it and
returning all these extra

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curricular elements into the
what would normally be pretty

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straightforward constitutional
stuff. Exactly. And using it to

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leverage voters. And so the fat
and the Democrats always moaned

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about this, they constantly moan
about now.

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Yes, well, yeah, the shoe is on
the other foot. And in fact, it

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is being used specifically for a
group of voters. But let's

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listen to a bit more what I
consider to be hubris, its

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constitution. And they weren't
renewed and reclaimed nearly a

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century later by this
organization's earliest members.

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Now, if I'm hearing him
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after the Constitution was
written 100 years later, they

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were renewed, I guess, version
2.0. And I guess, you know, that

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the American Bar Association now
is the constitution. Am I Am I

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just overly sensitive? Sounds
like am I overly sensitive? Or

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is that I think you are? I don't
I'm not so sure. It's codified

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in the United States for a
second. And they were renewed

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and reclaimed, nearly a century
later reclaimed, mean, claimed,

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what is that reclaimed? Rick, I
guess they had fallen down.

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They were reclaimed. And it's
like, it's like a repo man.

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Well, they're now erect, let's
read about it real polish this

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up by bull crap

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or

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earliest members. With the
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America's leading legal minds
came together for the first time

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to revolutionize their to
revolutionize our profession, a

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little sliver of a gap there. In
the decades that followed, they

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created new standards for
training and professional

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conduct. And they established
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vocation, at the heart of our
country's identity. Now,

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throughout history, Americans of
all backgrounds and walks of

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life have have turned to our
legal system, to settle

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disputes, but also to hold
accountable those who have done

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wrong, and even to answer
fundamental questions about who

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we are, and who we aspire to be
as a people. That's the first

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question I have whenever I meet
a lawyer, could you please help

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me Who are we? Who are we as a
people, you you remember the

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ABA, you can help me and I don't
like to harp on lawyers too

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much. But I think holder gives
lawyers a bad name. Particularly

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when you hear how we cannot read
a teleprompter. Even as we see

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most crime rates decline. We
need to examine new law

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enforcement strategies, and
better allocate resources to

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keep pace with today's
continuing threats as violence

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spikes in some of our greatest
citizens. How are your greatest

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citizens doing? Yeah, it's like,

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can't see his balls.

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I mean, seriously, can't Can't
you just pick Can you just say I

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mean, cities, he just let that
go citizens and no one. No one's

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I live in one of the best cities
in Fauci. Thanks so much, as

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always, for joining us. Good to
be here. Some of our greatest

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citizens. Look, if you're
reading it, we get to make fun

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of it. Okay, if you just flipped
because you're doing a big

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speech, and it's a complicated
topic. So what does he do is he

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comes up with this, basically
saying, We rule you slave, and

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we're gonna throw you a bone. It
is unworthy of our great

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country. It is unworthy of our
great legal tradition. And in

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response, I have today directed
a group of US attorneys to

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examine sentencing disparities,
and to develop recommendations

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on how we can address them in
this area, and in many others in

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ways both large and small. We as
a country, resolved to do

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better. The President and I
agree that it's time to take a

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pragmatic approach. And that's
why I'm proud to announce today

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that the Justice Department will
take a series of significant

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actions to recalibrate America's
federal reboots the system. And

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this is very interesting,
because boot to recalibrate,

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yeah, we reclaim that rebooting
the Reclaim. It's it is it is

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very interesting, because by
law, we have minimum mandatory

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sentences for certain offenses,
certainly in the drug arena. And

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what is happening here is this
not anything, nothing is

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changing in law, but it's a
policy change directed by hair

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holder himself, which he
explains here, we will start by

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fundamentally rethinking the
notion of mandatory minimum

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sentences for drug related
crimes. Why are they clapping?

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Are they all drug dealers?

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Why? It makes no sense?

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Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Very good.
Some statutes less work for us?

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No, I don't think that's what's
going on is not less word ending

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in flexible sentences. And this
is regardless of the individual

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condom, that is an issue in a
particular case, which

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typically, a judge has the
discretion to say, Well, okay,

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look, in your particular case,
you know, you did this. Yeah, it

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didn't really hurt anybody. But
it was wrong. You knew it was

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wrong, but maybe you didn't, I'm
gonna give you you know, I'm

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gonna cut you a break. And
you're going to do this or maybe

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already time, sir, whatever,
mandatories, then, right. Right.

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So that well, that's what a
judge should be able to do.

446
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:46,920
These mandatories are there. But
now here's what hair holders

447
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,280
doing reduce the discretion
available to prosecutors,

448
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:54,090
judges, and to juries, because
they oftentimes generate

449
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:58,920
unfairly long sentences. They
breed disrespect for the system,

450
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,030
when applied indiscriminately,
they do not serve public safety

451
00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:07,680
today. And let's be honest, the
enforcement priorities that we

452
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,410
have set have had a
destabilizing effect on

453
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:14,160
particularly particular
communities, largely poor and of

454
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,280
color, and applied
inappropriately, they are

455
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,030
ultimately counterproductive.
This is why I have today

456
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:24,420
mandated a modification of the
Justice Department's charging

457
00:27:24,420 --> 00:27:28,500
policy so that certain low level
nonviolent drug offenders who

458
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,990
have no ties to large scale
organizations, gangs, or

459
00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:34,380
cartels, will no longer be
charged with offenses that

460
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:38,970
impose draconian mandatory
minimum sentences. So the way I

461
00:27:38,970 --> 00:27:42,930
see this, essentially, is look
what we're going to be able to

462
00:27:42,930 --> 00:27:47,340
make deals with people now. And
whereas this was not necessarily

463
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:51,360
possible, a prosecutor works for
either the federal government or

464
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,090
for the state. But I guess all
directly, indirectly, they all

465
00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:58,260
work for this guy will be able
to say, okay, hey, look, Devorah

466
00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:00,720
can we caught you, man, we
caught you with, you know,

467
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,240
you're growing the weed in your
basement, you know, that's five,

468
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,380
five years in the State
Penitentiary. But you know, if

469
00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:11,670
you want to, like, help us trap
that curry guy, you know, maybe

470
00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:15,210
we could reduce this to 90 days.

471
00:28:19,050 --> 00:28:22,290
I think they do that now. To
some extent. No, no, no, no, no,

472
00:28:22,290 --> 00:28:25,170
no, no, no, because well, you
know, yeah, it would be for you,

473
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,290
you're gonna get more of this
because I do have one that comes

474
00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:29,010
in with a different

475
00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:30,930
theory to the different theory.
I'd

476
00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:34,830
love to hear. Okay, this is the
this is the local news report.

477
00:28:35,310 --> 00:28:41,460
And essentially, and there's a
Tony Sarah, who's a very famous

478
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:43,650
I don't think he works that much
anymore. But you've seen him

479
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:47,160
before. Tony says his famous
defense attorney, I think he

480
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,490
lives in the Midwest and
someplace. And he's that long

481
00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:53,940
white haired Indian gay
American. Yeah, I

482
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:56,190
remember wandering in San
Francisco and see him from time

483
00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:57,120
to time on the air. Yeah,

484
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,030
is a very mean me. Yeah. And he
would just like, just wins a

485
00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:06,570
lot. So they bring it they talk
this is the holder thing. This

486
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:12,240
is the the local report about
it. And then Sarah comes in and

487
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,090
blasts them and then they kind
of wrap it up and the whole

488
00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:17,460
thing turns out to be just a
bunch of bullcrap.

489
00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:21,630
In San Francisco's da George
Gascon told reporters, thinking

490
00:29:21,630 --> 00:29:24,150
of a statewide initiative that
would reduce simple drug

491
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:28,410
possession to a misdemeanor. No,
that's But stop right there.

492
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,870
That's not what told her saying.
There's no if only if he were if

493
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:36,180
the laws were changing, but
that's not what's happened

494
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:39,780
adequately reduce the sentencing
to one year, I think is the

495
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:43,350
right thing to do. Holder did
not talk about the federal raids

496
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:46,560
on Bay Area pot dispensaries, or
the fact that federal law

497
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,490
contradicts the legalizing of
medical marijuana. Defense

498
00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:53,220
attorney and legalization
advocate, Tony, Sarah told me

499
00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:56,520
he's delighted by holder's
position but he suspects the

500
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,870
motives. It isn't

501
00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:01,290
a concept of justice is not a
call Um, step of, you know,

502
00:30:01,290 --> 00:30:05,310
giving, I don't know, a break,
you know, to low level, non

503
00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:10,980
violent criminal, they can't
afford the number of prisoners

504
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,020
that they have incarcerated

505
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:16,050
holder did say that while the
nation's population has

506
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:19,530
increased by a third since the
1980s, the prison population has

507
00:30:19,530 --> 00:30:23,550
increased by 800%. And that
black males are serving

508
00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:26,970
significantly longer sentences
than white males convicted of

509
00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:31,980
similar crimes. You know, there
was a, get a third theory that

510
00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:36,570
Ms. McKee kind of steered me
towards. She said, Is this just

511
00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:40,770
a coincidence that Sanjay Gupta
on CNN, all of a sudden is pro

512
00:30:40,770 --> 00:30:45,000
weed and weed is good and
everything should be weed. And

513
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:51,480
I'm like, maybe, maybe they just
need more users. If not, if

514
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,020
possible,

515
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,150
if you think about it, they find
out about this weed stuff, it

516
00:30:57,150 --> 00:31:00,630
makes people pretty calm, we got
to do something to calm the

517
00:31:00,630 --> 00:31:03,330
public. Well, besides rioting in
the streets,

518
00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:07,470
sides, calming them, you know,
we know that the banks, the

519
00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:10,830
entire economy runs on drug
money, you know, maybe this

520
00:31:10,830 --> 00:31:13,080
like, you know, how we can you
know, we want to taper off a

521
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,210
little bit, we don't want to,
you know, be printing all this

522
00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:17,820
money all the time, we need some
more drug money in the system,

523
00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:24,030
you know, well, then we got to
get some users out. I think it's

524
00:31:24,780 --> 00:31:28,110
possibly a screw about I agree
when a holder comes in and gives

525
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:33,870
the speech. And and the thing
that I thought was interesting,

526
00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:35,850
it didn't have it on the clip,
but it was on the clip at the

527
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:41,100
beginning. They actually brought
up the meme that we stumbled

528
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,660
upon, which was that a 25%. They
put it on the screen as a

529
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:49,920
graphic and it's Chiron 25% of
the world's prisoners are in the

530
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,920
United States, and we only have
5% of the world's population.

531
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,190
Yeah. And that was like, that
was up there. And that's the

532
00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:59,280
that's that in the mainstream, I
didn't expect to start seeing

533
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,180
that and local news that people
are starting to add to and to

534
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:06,240
about this. And so I think
Sarah, and his idea that, you

535
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,790
know, this is ridiculous, this
prison situation, especially in

536
00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:11,100
California was, you know,
they're trying to privatize,

537
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,710
like they have in Texas,
largely, right. They got the

538
00:32:13,710 --> 00:32:17,310
overcrowding, and there's been a
number of demands. In fact,

539
00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:20,880
there wasn't there a strike a
hunger strike and counter

540
00:32:21,149 --> 00:32:22,019
strike going on now.

541
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:26,250
Okay, so not so now we're
getting down to something I

542
00:32:26,250 --> 00:32:27,690
thought that hunger strike had
ended.

543
00:32:28,050 --> 00:32:30,180
As far as I know, the hunger
strike still going on. I think

544
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:32,250
it's still going on and get mo
to that's where it started.

545
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,030
Right. And, ya know, there's a
huge hunger strike. Let me see.

546
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:38,160
Let me make sure that it's like
because I don't want to dive

547
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,240
now. It's like

548
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,920
15,000 prisoners.

549
00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:42,839
It's so poorly reported.

550
00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:44,160
Why bother?

551
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:47,820
That note that we don't know if
it's over or not? Because nobody

552
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,050
really even exists.

553
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,800
Lady Gaga weighs 60 pounds.
Everyone knows that.

554
00:32:53,850 --> 00:32:56,760
She that she weighs more like
260 No,

555
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,820
no, no, no, no, no. No,

556
00:32:59,850 --> 00:33:02,040
what happened? Is she we're not
going there.

557
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,840
Now she looks anorexic. No,

558
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,730
I was surprised from Canada.
Yes, she did. Yeah, this is just

559
00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:11,670
publicity stunts. She probably
shot these. You know, these

560
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:14,160
things are no, no. Let me judge
you for the truth about

561
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,690
California's hunger strikes.

562
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:19,800
I got a publicity stunt for you.
Yeah, yeah. While you're

563
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,170
searching for that, all right,
you're gonna be annoyed though.

564
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,230
Okay. I got August 13. Hundreds
of strikers that did not gone

565
00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:29,070
one month without food is still
going on. In his stated effort

566
00:33:29,070 --> 00:33:30,930
to end the state's
controversially solitary

567
00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:35,040
confinement practices, yet, it's
already in solitary drop of a

568
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,460
hat. So

569
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:38,970
So somehow, the CCA the
Corrections Corporation of

570
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:42,450
America, they messed it up, or
maybe that just whoever was

571
00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:45,870
funny, because we tracked this
for years, John, we tracked how

572
00:33:45,870 --> 00:33:48,960
the juvenile system was, you
know, shuttling kids in from

573
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,390
school, like, get him in, get
him into the jail, get him in

574
00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:53,070
the system. It was, you know,
for that

575
00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:57,450
flight, there was actually a
judge in bribes to send kids to

576
00:33:57,450 --> 00:33:57,660
send

577
00:33:57,660 --> 00:34:02,400
kids to jail. Yeah, so it was
$60,000 a year per person. You

578
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,060
know, what here? Maybe this is
what's going on? And I think it

579
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:10,650
was Eisenhower. I think it was
Eisenhower, who said, If you

580
00:34:10,650 --> 00:34:15,510
want total security, and you
want a roof over your head and

581
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:18,750
three meals a day, prison is the
place for you.

582
00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:22,770
Maybe remember Eisenhower's
saying this?

583
00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:26,160
Yeah, I think it was I can look
it up on

584
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,470
this. Okay, well, yeah,
unimportant.

585
00:34:28,739 --> 00:34:31,499
So and he ends up his quote by
saying the only thing you don't

586
00:34:31,499 --> 00:34:34,409
have there is freedom, which
kind of relates to this whole

587
00:34:34,409 --> 00:34:37,889
balance between our you know,
our freedom and our security. So

588
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:41,849
I think maybe people are saying,
screw it. I want to be in jail.

589
00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:48,870
There's evidence of that in some
communities because a guy will

590
00:34:48,870 --> 00:34:52,320
get out of prison. No, no one
will give a an ex con a job in

591
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,640
California, right? Not because
you couldn't train him or do

592
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,490
something. But you can get
somebody that's not an ex con.

593
00:34:59,490 --> 00:35:02,280
There's no There's so many jobs
available exam. I mean, there's

594
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,090
jobs, you know, you there's, I'm
sorry, there's, it's a, it's a

595
00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:09,990
buyers market for employers,
they there's a you know, we're

596
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:14,010
in a depression so you can get
workers or aren't ex cons to

597
00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:17,400
work for you. So there's no
reason to resort to ex cons

598
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,930
because you can't take a chance

599
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,180
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's
vote for jobs.

600
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,980
So these guys get out, they
can't get a job and then they

601
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:32,160
have to, you know, do some petty
thievery or so they get back,

602
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:39,660
they get thrown back in, if the
system is broken. If you get to

603
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:42,450
be released, they don't do for
gopher rehabilitation, they

604
00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:48,210
don't teach prisoners
JavaScript. If only they did, it

605
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:51,180
would end the whole problem with
you know, so they don't do any

606
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:54,090
of that stuff. They just make
them you know, may license

607
00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:57,960
plates are birdhouses and the
next thing you know, they come

608
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,870
out they got nothing to do
there. They're still D

609
00:36:00,870 --> 00:36:04,260
socialized from being in prison
is this is not working the way

610
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:07,650
they haven't set up it's, and
it's creating this problem, and

611
00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:11,550
then they're all felon, so they
can't vote. The idiots out can't

612
00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:15,930
vote, or why that was makes zero
sense to me. Seems to me should

613
00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:16,740
be able to vote.

614
00:36:18,450 --> 00:36:21,630
Do you lose your rights for good
once you've been convicted of a

615
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:24,750
felony? Or do you do they know,
at some point and you can't get

616
00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:26,100
us some way of petitioning?
Who's

617
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:29,850
whose Dick do you have to suck?
Or is it just the thing that

618
00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:30,840
happened to be white?

619
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:35,220
Oh, god. Okay, seriously,

620
00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:38,880
no, unfortunately, unbelieving
you. But don't propagate the

621
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,790
mean that America is racist,
please, this is not this is not

622
00:36:41,790 --> 00:36:42,390
the point.

623
00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:45,900
No, no, it's not the point at
all. But the system is not

624
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,330
working. And they're not
training people than it used to

625
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:50,910
be rehabilitation. Now, it's
just long term punishment. The

626
00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:53,790
punishment is too long term.
They never never, you know,

627
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:58,230
throwing somebody in jail for a
couple of weeks is not you know,

628
00:36:58,230 --> 00:37:00,450
say you're gonna have a job
someplace and you get thrown in

629
00:37:00,450 --> 00:37:03,150
jail for two weeks. You're not
gonna get back to me that's

630
00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:06,570
punishment enough to put
somebody especially a marijuana

631
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:08,970
smoker in jail for years,

632
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:12,840
Dwight D. Eisenhower said, if
you want total security, go to

633
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,930
prison there you're fed,
clothed, given medical care and

634
00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:20,550
so on. The only thing lacking is
freedom. That's Eisenhower,

635
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,850
that Eisenhower. Come on. That
was good. You quote him every

636
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:28,260
week. Eisenhower Memorial
podcast like

637
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:32,790
him, I like him. So I was gonna
just just to get it off my chest

638
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:38,070
because I heard this on NPR. And
sometimes I think that, you

639
00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:40,980
know, as we get new listeners on
board, we have to go back to our

640
00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:44,130
earlier days where we take for
granted. And what the, you know,

641
00:37:44,130 --> 00:37:45,930
like I said, we have a whole
chat room full of people who

642
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,060
have been listening for years
and they know all this stuff.

643
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,340
And but we still have to kind of
help people understand how it

644
00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:54,690
works. So NPR is now if I'm not
mistaken, they're supposed to be

645
00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:59,580
funded by people like you and
underwritten right, by

646
00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:02,220
corporations, because you know,
there's there's all really

647
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:03,510
there's no profit motive

648
00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:07,200
going back to the well to play
the classic. Yeah,

649
00:38:07,530 --> 00:38:10,950
well, maybe I'll play the
classic why not? Okay, moving on

650
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:11,670
to money.

651
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:15,390
How are NPRs corporate
underwriting revenues holding up

652
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:19,800
in the recession? And what about
foundation grants to different

653
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,490
stories?

654
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:26,580
Underwriting is underwriting is
is down, it's down for

655
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:30,120
everybody. I mean, this is this
is this is the area that is most

656
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,600
down for us is in is in
sponsorship, underwriting,

657
00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:36,090
advertising, call it whatever
you want, call it whatever you

658
00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:40,170
want. Exactly. So I hear this
thing. And you know, when John

659
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:44,340
and I know, John, you and I have
been in media for most of our

660
00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:47,610
professional lives, and we know
how these things work, and

661
00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:53,970
either NPR is complicit, or they
are stupid. And you both Well,

662
00:38:53,970 --> 00:38:56,670
it could be both, but when I
heard this yesterday, I'm

663
00:38:56,670 --> 00:39:01,230
thinking to myself, can you
really be that gullible? Or are

664
00:39:01,230 --> 00:39:02,580
you just in on the game?

665
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:05,400
Let's sticking with the music
industry, let's move to a big

666
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,660
story in the world of pop music.
If it were up to Lady Gaga, we

667
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:11,580
would not be able to play this
song yet.

668
00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:15,810
Note they're playing the song.

669
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:21,180
on NPR. That song is called
applause it was supposed to be

670
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:24,210
released on August 19. But it
was leaked on the Internet. So

671
00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:28,560
Gaga and her record label
decided to release it early is a

672
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,700
common occurrence. Joining us to
talk about from the blue says,

673
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,920
Listen, so of course I'm like,
oh, so they pretended that it

674
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,550
was leaked, so that it could be
a story because no one cares.

675
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:47,070
Except for the little monsters.
And now they're playing this

676
00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:51,300
song on NPR newsroom in New
York. Is Claire suddath. An

677
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,360
entertainment reporter for
Bloomberg Businessweek can't we

678
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480
have we have Bloomberg
Businessweek. Now there's an

679
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,240
interesting backstory here. Tell
us what happened with Lady Gotta

680
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,950
go over what happened.

681
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,370
Also, she has a new album coming
out in November called Art pop.

682
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:09,960
And please note drop dates name,
title of album, it's the

683
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,000
promotion is right there on
August

684
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,940
19. She was going to release the
first single off of that called

685
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:18,960
applause which you just heard.
But it showed up on the internet

686
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,410
over the weekend. And so she
tweeted some very angry things.

687
00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:27,090
I think her main complaint was
that as an artist, she had sort

688
00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:28,620
of lost control over her work
and

689
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:33,600
I listen, so she she tweets as
an artist, she's lost control of

690
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,560
her work however,

691
00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:38,430
it's not someone else's decision
when to release her songs, then

692
00:40:38,430 --> 00:40:41,400
her label decided that they
would just push it out early.

693
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:46,290
So if I get this right, she said
it's not anyone's decision when

694
00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:49,890
to release my songs and then her
record company decided to do it

695
00:40:49,890 --> 00:40:55,290
early. Just the reporting alone
should these people should be

696
00:40:55,290 --> 00:40:58,740
fired? All right. Yeah, no, I'm

697
00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:00,390
looking I'm looking at the Gaga
feed.

698
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:03,960
You subscribe to Gaga

699
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,990
No, I'm you can go look at the
feed. You just type her name and

700
00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:10,710
she got 39 million followers,
you know, the wish to just plug

701
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:12,780
my or I can say track

702
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,900
me made How about no agenda?
Dude, what do you mean?

703
00:41:16,590 --> 00:41:17,640
sidetrack book?

704
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,730
Okay, you know, that'd be cool
if we had Lady Gaga as ignore

705
00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:25,380
agenda listener. Good luck with
that. Yeah, she's not that. So

706
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:28,410
applause to that all it is is
like this is the worst feed

707
00:41:28,410 --> 00:41:30,810
anyone who subscribes to the
Lady Gaga feed has that listen

708
00:41:30,810 --> 00:41:34,950
to this same thing. Ah, I don't
see her complaining. It must be

709
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:39,030
deep. She She? No, no, today's
the 13th I mean, it says the

710
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:40,770
13th I don't see all this
bitching.

711
00:41:41,310 --> 00:41:46,560
Because the because you can only
imagine that. I think this this

712
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,250
is bullcrap. What

713
00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:51,510
she said is nonsense it UK
monsters. Thank you so much. I'm

714
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:53,490
so happy to be climbing your
charts again. I can't wait to

715
00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:56,640
see you live kisses from across
the pond. The applause lyric

716
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,510
video will be out at 12 PST
today. I don't see the

717
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,470
complaining.

718
00:42:01,740 --> 00:42:06,870
Because this is promotion as
blatant promotion. That's the

719
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:07,410
point.

720
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:10,650
There's not one thing in here
where she's complaining. The

721
00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:13,410
woman reported that she was
complaining on Twitter.

722
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:17,370
Yes. So NPR liars.

723
00:42:18,810 --> 00:42:21,150
is unbelievable. I will
challenge anyone to find

724
00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:25,500
anything more than maybe one. I
can't find one. Where she says

725
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,900
cares at all about this. Okay,
well, nevermind. Alright, so

726
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,040
that we got that.

727
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:32,370
Let me get all of the annoying
things out. Now before we might

728
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:34,710
as well do it just so I can get
it done. And this This was

729
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:37,020
annoying, because I couldn't
believe that I was agreeing with

730
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:40,650
this person. This is this is
this is kind of sad. And this,

731
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,580
this goes back to the
presidential duties. So there

732
00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:47,100
was this is actually a little
clip from NBC talking about the

733
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,950
President had an interview, you
know, another fascistic

734
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:53,490
interview because now now he's
in bed with Amazon. And he had

735
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:57,150
an interview with Kindle.
Apparently Kindle now interviews

736
00:42:57,150 --> 00:43:01,290
people. So you know, this is
this? Yeah, he just spoke at

737
00:43:01,290 --> 00:43:05,760
Amazon. It's like the whole
thing. It's icky. It's very icky

738
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,490
when you're doing interviews
with Zillow, the real estate

739
00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:13,110
company, and you know, not not a
journalistic outfit, but just

740
00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:16,140
Kindle, that he's being
interviewed by Kindle. And

741
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:18,480
here's what he says it's also
been a shift in culture.

742
00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:21,210
We weren't exposed to the things
we didn't have in the same way

743
00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:24,510
that kids are these days. There
was not that window into the

744
00:43:24,510 --> 00:43:27,420
lifestyles of the rich and
famous. kids weren't monitoring

745
00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:30,930
every day what Kim Kardashian
was wearing, or where Kanye West

746
00:43:30,930 --> 00:43:32,010
was going on vacation

747
00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:35,910
and thinking that somehow that
was the mark of success. Okay.

748
00:43:35,940 --> 00:43:40,170
So, you know, think of it what
you may say to me was little,

749
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:46,620
okay, hypocritical much, but the
mother and mother in law of

750
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:51,300
these two have Kim Kardashian
and Kanye West, Chris

751
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:58,950
Kardashian, has somehow used her
daughter publishing a sex tape

752
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,600
with Ray J, and whatever his
name is, into our own television

753
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:09,480
talk show called Chris. And the
eye is little heart, the dots,

754
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:13,350
the eyes, a little heart, it's
Chris. And so this, of course, I

755
00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:15,720
don't watch this. But this clip
was sent to me. And I'm like,

756
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:18,660
Ah, why am I agreeing with this
woman?

757
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:21,930
And the President said, and I
quote, The American Dream

758
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,630
involves some pretty basic
stuff, a good job where you felt

759
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:28,320
some security, a good education.
I don't think people went around

760
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,350
saying to themselves, I need to
have a 10,000 square foot house.

761
00:44:31,830 --> 00:44:35,250
kids weren't monitoring every
day what Kim Kardashian was

762
00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:39,300
wearing, or where Kanye West was
going on vacation, and thinking

763
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:41,850
that was somehow with the mark
of success.

764
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,990
And interesting to note here
that NBC did not read the entire

765
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:49,020
code. And she did, which was
talked specifically about one of

766
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:52,320
our my major points, the
President's rebranding of the

767
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,100
American dream.

768
00:44:53,790 --> 00:44:59,490
So I read this, and I thought,
wow, I wasn't I mean, it's

769
00:44:59,490 --> 00:45:02,820
really great. Ain't that people
aspire to get a great job. And I

770
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,820
would too wanted that when I was
growing up, and I graduated from

771
00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:09,120
high school and I really wanted
to work hard and succeed. But I

772
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,140
wasn't aware that you could only
set the bar so high, and that we

773
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:18,900
could only dream so big. I was
taught dream big, work hard, and

774
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:20,460
you could have whatever you
want.

775
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:28,920
How sad is it in America when
I'm now agreeing with with Kim

776
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,270
Kardashians? Mom?

777
00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:36,060
Well, Kardashians mom is
probably no dummy. And I think

778
00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:39,510
by the way, that this is a
little bit. And I don't want to

779
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:43,680
be too completely cynical about
this. But this may be a little

780
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,300
bit off the rails for what the
what the powers that be will

781
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:51,960
accept. Because you know, the
President won't has his new way

782
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,100
of creating a reality. Well,
it's the new Gambia short, live

783
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:59,520
talk show host if she keeps
doing stuff like, oh, well, let

784
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,010
me play d&d, and she'll be the
you know, she'll be asking for

785
00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:02,910
donations.

786
00:46:04,530 --> 00:46:09,540
Hi, everybody. It's the Chris
podcast. How you doing? Well

787
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:10,650
listen to her follow up.

788
00:46:11,730 --> 00:46:17,910
I thought was wow. I bet the
President has some friends with

789
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,720
10,000 square foot houses and
you probably wouldn't mind going

790
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,390
over there, Mr. President, while
you were asking him to have a

791
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:28,830
party for you, when you were
campaigning for you know,

792
00:46:28,860 --> 00:46:33,060
dollars to run for president. I
just I don't I find it so

793
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:37,920
awesome. His picking on Kim
Kardashian and Kanye West. Kanye

794
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,020
West. First of all, there you
go.

795
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,500
Alright, enough. Yeah, that is
enough. But let you watch. So

796
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:44,070
stuff like

797
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,800
Well, no, I don't watch stuff
like this. But it was sent to me

798
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,670
and other people said the same
thing. Can you believe that? I'm

799
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:55,710
agreeing with this woman? Right.
Yeah, I am. And I

800
00:46:55,710 --> 00:47:02,820
just do these celebrity Talking
Heads. Say stuff occasionally

801
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:05,460
that you'd have to agree they
it's not like everything they

802
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:06,450
say is wrong.

803
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,620
No. But it's noticeable when
this happens because typically

804
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:13,440
all they're talking about is
exactly that is about how

805
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,070
awesome their house is and where
the great vacation they went on.

806
00:47:17,070 --> 00:47:21,000
And this is it is and these I
would I would also say that

807
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,530
these are Obama bots. They
certainly were all on the Obama

808
00:47:25,530 --> 00:47:29,340
buzzer Republican to me that
well. Okay, I don't know about

809
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:30,570
her, but I'm pretty sure that

810
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,360
the rest of them Yeah,

811
00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:38,010
Ryan Seacrest produces this,
please. This is an Obama bot

812
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:40,110
production. We're gonna write
that down. That's a good

813
00:47:40,110 --> 00:47:46,200
Seacrest and a bomb about
production. So something's

814
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,960
happening. Something is really
happening. And it seems like

815
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,450
there's sometimes I get the
feeling John, there's a

816
00:47:51,450 --> 00:47:55,590
concerted effort. And maybe the
whole Glenn Greenwald Snowden

817
00:47:55,590 --> 00:47:59,160
thing has something to do with
it. That it really is a force

818
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:05,160
moving to move this the current
power base out? Do you ever get

819
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,850
that feeling if

820
00:48:06,029 --> 00:48:09,329
we've discussed this before
that, you know, they keep taking

821
00:48:09,329 --> 00:48:13,619
these runs at Obama and they do
it in bursts? Yeah. And they

822
00:48:13,619 --> 00:48:16,499
have been very unsuccessful. I
think it's, I think the public

823
00:48:16,499 --> 00:48:20,669
at this point is so dumbed down
and so fat butted sitting down

824
00:48:20,669 --> 00:48:23,579
kind of thing. I don't know how
else to describe it, that they

825
00:48:23,579 --> 00:48:27,839
really can't be riled up.
There's nobody out there to rile

826
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:30,179
them. I mean, there's not a
Republican like we're this right

827
00:48:30,179 --> 00:48:32,759
now is a two party system with a
third various third parties out

828
00:48:32,759 --> 00:48:36,479
there like, Gary, what's his
name? So

829
00:48:37,110 --> 00:48:38,700
you have Gary Huntsman's?

830
00:48:39,509 --> 00:48:45,389
Gary, so you have like,
Republican orders that just are

831
00:48:45,449 --> 00:48:49,079
uninteresting. And they're just
as bad as the Obama they got

832
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,989
nothing to say. They don't rouse
a crowd. They don't get anyone

833
00:48:51,989 --> 00:48:54,629
to stand there working for the
same people. Yeah, it's all the

834
00:48:54,629 --> 00:48:58,769
same goal working for insurance
companies, big corporations, et

835
00:48:58,769 --> 00:49:02,129
cetera, et cetera. And so it's
like, they got nothing they got

836
00:49:02,129 --> 00:49:05,939
no, they're set. It's another
thing they got no inspiration.

837
00:49:05,939 --> 00:49:10,229
Okay, my dog in the hunt, so
they can't get anybody riled up.

838
00:49:10,229 --> 00:49:12,749
But that's for sure. And then
the third party guys, they're

839
00:49:12,749 --> 00:49:14,609
either nuts, or they get

840
00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:18,120
stone, stone, the stone stone,

841
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,940
and they got you know, they
can't get in or they have a high

842
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:25,080
pitched voice. The Ross thing,
Gary Johnson's voice stinks. You

843
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,430
know, he's not a guy once again,

844
00:49:27,029 --> 00:49:30,089
Gary, you know, Gary Johnson, I
talked to his camp member, I

845
00:49:30,089 --> 00:49:33,629
interviewed him and I spoke with
his campaign manager or his

846
00:49:33,629 --> 00:49:36,539
media campaign manager when I
spoke. I said, Yeah, you the

847
00:49:36,539 --> 00:49:39,419
guy's got to get a little
forceful. And then they took it

848
00:49:39,449 --> 00:49:42,839
exactly the other way. And he'd
been rare. And it became like,

849
00:49:42,839 --> 00:49:45,269
really, it's kind of like Alex,
Joni, like you know, is the

850
00:49:45,929 --> 00:49:46,499
crazy

851
00:49:46,529 --> 00:49:49,799
insincere screaming. Yeah, you
know, people can tell they can

852
00:49:49,799 --> 00:49:52,979
tell when you're actually mad or
when you're unless you're the

853
00:49:53,009 --> 00:49:56,789
really great actor and that's
why Reagan I think was so it's

854
00:49:56,789 --> 00:49:59,459
so well, because he was he could
act when he you know, didn't

855
00:49:59,459 --> 00:50:02,819
really have Oh God I have can't
get out. You can't sometimes you

856
00:50:02,819 --> 00:50:05,489
can't get yourself motivated.
Well, if you're an actor, you

857
00:50:05,489 --> 00:50:08,819
have a better shot at it. Well,
I better go get those Iranians

858
00:50:08,819 --> 00:50:13,589
right now. I know that wasn't
very good wasn't what I know,

859
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:15,419
but we could recognize who you
were trying to do.

860
00:50:16,770 --> 00:50:23,400
I was my way. John Huntsman.
Exactly. Yeah, well, I find it

861
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,440
noticeable that that this
happened. It's noticeable. It's

862
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,420
noteworthy but or, as you would
say, noted. noted, noted.

863
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:38,160
Alright, so we of course, don't
have cool little hearts over the

864
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,250
eyes in our in our logo. I don't
think we have an eye anywhere.

865
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,700
Maybe we could have an OOM loud,
we could have two little hearts

866
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,520
somewhere over DeVore aktiver.
Can Devorah Kevin uhm, loud.

867
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,330
There are some characters and I
don't know what they're called.

868
00:50:51,330 --> 00:50:55,080
They're Eastern European that
you put over a divorce rack and

869
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,830
it becomes

870
00:50:56,460 --> 00:51:01,440
Slav Evora, Jacques Jacques,
right. We have a different

871
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,100
model. So you know, we don't get
affiliate fees. Of course, you

872
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,100
know, we don't also don't get
taken off cable systems like

873
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:12,450
CBS, and Showtime over some
dispute, which is basically

874
00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:15,510
about you about stealing money
from you. And that's all that

875
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:18,420
it's about. And your you know,
what are you losing? Who knows,

876
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:21,270
but you're not getting service.
And you're not getting you know,

877
00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:24,090
you're not seeing what you want
to see, you're may want to see.

878
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:29,220
We've chosen for a model where
you actually do tell us what to

879
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:32,640
do or what you'd like or don't
like, and you support us. And if

880
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,780
you don't think then

881
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:39,240
so distributed unless a lot of
people say the same thing if we

882
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:40,800
don't want to do it, right.

883
00:51:41,730 --> 00:51:42,480
What does that mean that

884
00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:46,890
call you upstairs? Oh, yeah.
Hey,

885
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,070
now listen to you feel. Yeah,
you know, you guys were taught

886
00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:50,550
jingle?

887
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:54,090
Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, you're
paying attention. Yeah. Oh,

888
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,420
yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Oh,
you may know we're talking about

889
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:57,960
this one.

890
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,160
Yeah, yeah. We don't want you
playing a jingle anymore, man.

891
00:52:02,190 --> 00:52:03,360
Because it is science.

892
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:07,710
So we do have a couple of these
three actually executive

893
00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:11,550
producers to thank for today's
show. And I want to thank them

894
00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:15,720
in curiously two of them are
both that big a second was

895
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:21,930
second show in a row where we
have two members of the show

896
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,590
number.

897
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:30,420
And, and Anna might add, we had
a 538 33 and a 538. flat on the

898
00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:34,200
last show. And this is the same
539 33 and 539 flat.

899
00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:41,520
Yeah, yeah, it's funny. And
here's the third coincidence.

900
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,040
They both came in one two punch

901
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:46,440
in from California.

902
00:52:47,820 --> 00:52:48,930
Well, we go on,

903
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,540
wait a minute, it might be a
conspiracy.

904
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,830
One is our hyper word technology
guy David Sir David Foley, who

905
00:52:55,830 --> 00:53:00,210
is the Earl of Silicon Valley
who seems to be on a roll of Los

906
00:53:00,210 --> 00:53:05,460
Gatos 59539 In the morning Oscar
and Felix from the Earl of

907
00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:09,570
Silicon Valley we're gonna roll
with the no agenda. We're on a

908
00:53:09,570 --> 00:53:13,230
roll with the no agenda karma
continuing to work its magic so

909
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:15,540
I'm sharing the wealth with the
best podcasts University and

910
00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:19,560
closed it's 539 and 33 cents so
you can continue to fill up the

911
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:25,920
bunker with mac and cheese which
by the way, so I am going to

912
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,930
post this picture I have I was
at this place called grocery

913
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:36,090
grocery with 1000s of Grocery
Outlet and it's called referred

914
00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:38,010
to generally speaking as grossed
out

915
00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:40,980
is that a California thing? I
don't think we have it here.

916
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:44,640
I think it's West Coast i There
is one I know in Washington

917
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,890
couple in Washington state so
it's just I think just a West

918
00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:53,700
Coast thing. And they had a
there's a mac and cheese a bento

919
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:57,960
box. Yeah. And it says mac and
cheese dinner.

920
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,930
Does it have the word gourmet
anywhere?

921
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:06,090
No. No, but it's it says mac and
cheese dinner and it's a box

922
00:54:06,090 --> 00:54:08,130
with you know you can shake it
and there's some powder in there

923
00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:12,810
and some God knows. This is like
I should have bought it. Yeah,

924
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:14,670
what do you 39 cents?

925
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,780
What and how many servings does
this provide?

926
00:54:19,110 --> 00:54:21,540
Well, I didn't look on the back
but I didn't really want to

927
00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:21,960
touch it.

928
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:24,660
I can't believe you didn't buy
that as well. I

929
00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:25,710
was thinking about it

930
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:29,460
39 cents now is that is

931
00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:32,580
39 cents for a mac and cheese
dinner. But is it but do

932
00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:35,580
you think it's one two servings
or six? Or because it for

933
00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:36,330
family?

934
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,300
It's a little box so I would say
that is just one single shot

935
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:43,860
single? I betcha dial go back.
I'm gonna go back. You gotta get

936
00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:48,120
your bucket says two servings on
it. No, it's

937
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:53,190
not. It'll say it'll say. It'll
say is that a dinner? It'll say

938
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:54,630
two to three servings.

939
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,300
You're eating alone. Is that a
dinner?

940
00:54:57,330 --> 00:54:58,680
Yeah, of course a meal.

941
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,520
That's a meal so anyway so

942
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,600
let me let me play the mac and
cheese jingle for

943
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:12,720
you slaves get get used to mac
and cheese macaroni and cheese

944
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:18,900
shattered melted together mac
and cheese mac and cheese mac

945
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:23,550
and cheese mac and cheese by
iron Rand. And there's the thing

946
00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:27,000
that's you know when I did that,
but the cheap cheddar it's

947
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,860
actually not even cheddar just
powder.

948
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,930
It's just chemicals. It's it's
sulfur.

949
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:39,360
Anyway, so coming in also from
Pleasant Hill, California is

950
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,760
Robert Montoya. And I don't have
a note from him. I looked I

951
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,630
searched on the on the email. If
he has something to tell us. I

952
00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:46,980
haven't you will feeling

953
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:50,250
that. Why don't you keep going?
I have someone I thought that I

954
00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:52,320
saw an email from him. Let me
just tell Okay,

955
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,100
well, that could be could come
here at some funny name. What is

956
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,380
his Yeah, like he might come in
with something like Robert?

957
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,050
No. Well, I just looked at
Montoya.

958
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,130
So I got here. I got a Robert.
Hello, Adam. And John. I believe

959
00:56:05,130 --> 00:56:07,740
this loving donation will
elevate me to the prestigious

960
00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:10,530
ranks of the no agenda knights
roundtable. Is that this,

961
00:56:10,530 --> 00:56:15,660
Robert? I would think so. But I
don't see him on the list.

962
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:20,700
Well, hmm, what does he say
what? Let's see what here's what

963
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:24,030
His email is on the Pay Pal. I
guess I shouldn't give it out.

964
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:27,750
But let me see if it's a Gmail
or their ad.

965
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:29,760
No, it's Yahoo. Is it

966
00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:35,280
Bob something? No. All right.
All right. Well, then we'll have

967
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,560
to fix it. Anything that's
wrong. We'll do on Sunday, then.

968
00:56:38,070 --> 00:56:41,280
You get a black night. Yeah. So
Robert, get a hold of it. That's

969
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:46,740
the way to go. Well, we say you
sent a note and then not really

970
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:48,150
send one so you can get a black

971
00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:51,150
day. I've already discussed with
guys who tried to pull that

972
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:55,080
way. People have been trying to
scam us for that. Well,

973
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,050
I don't know why you want the
black arrow I want to be a black

974
00:56:58,050 --> 00:57:00,630
knight. And I explained to him
what it takes, you know, and

975
00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:08,010
it's like, oh when we genuinely
make a mistake, an ex

976
00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:10,470
and actually there's a whole
back channel and there's like

977
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:14,250
arguments on email. It used to
involve meanie it's really not

978
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:16,830
fun. These black knights. It's
not it's not a not a fun

979
00:57:16,830 --> 00:57:17,400
process.

980
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:20,130
We haven't had too many in the
last six months.

981
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,750
We're trying to get away from
it.

982
00:57:22,770 --> 00:57:31,860
So boss, okay. Boss brew Nick's
Blandings brown X enforced. Came

983
00:57:31,860 --> 00:57:33,780
with 258 Indigo.

984
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:37,680
This is a second time in in as
many shows, I think. I think

985
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:44,370
it's a mistake. But I don't see
a note from boss. Okay, last, we

986
00:57:44,370 --> 00:57:47,820
need modes. There's a little box
you can fill out. It's cool. And

987
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:51,600
sometimes it says instructions.
Anyway, those are our three we

988
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,360
have two executive producers,
one Associate Executive producer

989
00:57:54,570 --> 00:57:59,310
for the show. 539 I actually the
two guys came in late. We always

990
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,760
only had boss. Period. Yeah. So

991
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:05,550
lucky. I'm sorry. Well, it gives
us more time to talk about stuff

992
00:58:05,550 --> 00:58:08,010
because we'll have a short
donation segment as well. Look,

993
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,240
just looking at the spreadsheet.

994
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:14,280
Yeah, we didn't get a lot of no
volumes down. Volumes down

995
00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:15,330
volumes down. Well, let

996
00:58:15,330 --> 00:58:17,520
me say in the morning to you
John C. Dvorak.

997
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:20,700
Well, in the morning to you,
Adam Korean in the morning to

998
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:25,380
all the ships at sea boots on
the ground subs in the water

999
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:29,430
feet in the air, the Dames and
and the nights out there.

1000
00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:33,840
Yes. And of course to these fine
executive producers that are to

1001
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,420
from California today and our
Associate Executive producer

1002
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:40,080
from Gitmo nation lowlands. All
of these credits are valid. You

1003
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,810
can put them anywhere you want.
You can use them in job

1004
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:45,360
interviews, unlike the phonies
in Hollywood. We'll be happy to

1005
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,900
vouch for you we'll we'll have
someone call us do it all the

1006
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:51,570
time. Absolutely. He was
executive producer he's talking

1007
00:58:51,570 --> 00:58:54,840
about and of course we'd like to
thank all of the human resources

1008
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,660
in the chat room no agenda
stream.com no agenda chat.net

1009
00:58:57,660 --> 00:59:02,550
Are our crack team a behind the
scenes are Gitmo slave sir 19

1010
00:59:02,550 --> 00:59:06,750
interact void zero Sir the Mr.
Oils and everyone else I'm

1011
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:10,290
forgetting their and our
artists. Martin JJ for the three

1012
00:59:10,290 --> 00:59:12,570
peat on episode 538.

1013
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,510
That was a good one. He's a
three Peter now can't wait to

1014
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:17,940
see what's done this twice I
think is a double three times a

1015
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:19,800
couple times like the Chicago
Bulls. It's

1016
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,970
happened a couple times. No
agenda are generated.com Looking

1017
00:59:23,970 --> 00:59:27,000
forward to seeing what we have
at the end of today's broadcast.

1018
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:33,180
vorak.org/n A and regardless of
how you support us, we always

1019
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:37,260
can use you propagating our
formula. Our formula is this. We

1020
00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:39,600
go out. We hit people in the
mouth

1021
00:59:53,550 --> 01:00:02,550
yay, yay. Yay. Yay. All right. I
got it. contender? You do I got

1022
01:00:02,550 --> 01:00:04,950
a contender for Clip of the Day
Yeah, you

1023
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:06,600
want to now you want me to hurt
you later.

1024
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:12,660
Hurt me later. Yeah, I want to
now see what you're made of

1025
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:13,890
Reggie Love.

1026
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,210
Are you familiar with the no

1027
01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:19,950
not this name. We haven't heard
it on the show for you should

1028
01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:24,210
measure brief people on it for
what over I almost two years

1029
01:00:24,210 --> 01:00:24,360
yeah

1030
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,590
Reggie Love was just like whom
Aberdeen is Hillary Clinton's

1031
01:00:28,590 --> 01:00:33,600
body man Reggie Love is or was
President Obama's body man which

1032
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,090
means he pretty much does
everything you call the

1033
01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:38,400
president sweet in the morning,
he's going to answer the phone.

1034
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:41,280
Of course, you know, there's
there's always speculation about

1035
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,010
these types of body men, you
know, it's like, could it be a

1036
01:00:44,010 --> 01:00:46,800
little bit more you never know.
We do know that he complained

1037
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,610
incessantly about the President
sitting in the in the beast in

1038
01:00:50,610 --> 01:00:53,520
the Presidential limousine that
the President does not sweat.

1039
01:00:54,180 --> 01:00:56,850
And then he turn off the air
conditioner and remember that

1040
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,880
and Reggie loves like hand to do
just like he's I think he said

1041
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,610
he was like a reptile, didn't
he? Or like a lizard?

1042
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,700
I thought it was just Hillary I
Never No, no, no,

1043
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:08,130
no, this was Reggie Love when it
was rare interviews. And he

1044
01:01:08,130 --> 01:01:11,070
said, Oh, man, this is crazy.
The president you know cranks up

1045
01:01:11,070 --> 01:01:14,010
the or turns off the AC and he
just sitting there but he

1046
01:01:14,010 --> 01:01:15,510
doesn't sweat. Now.

1047
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:16,740
Yeah, Hillary doesn't sweat.

1048
01:01:16,770 --> 01:01:23,070
Ciao. Oh, gee, coincidence? I
think not. Hello reptilians. To

1049
01:01:23,070 --> 01:01:28,350
Reggie Love is at some, like one
of these conferences. And it's

1050
01:01:28,350 --> 01:01:31,470
one of these conferences where
you have a little riser and the

1051
01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:35,040
audience is there. And you
usually like to chairs table in

1052
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,410
the middle. But it's not the
Clinton Global Initiative. It's

1053
01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:41,460
not Davao, you know, it's just
it's like a little University

1054
01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:45,780
thing. I may have been Davos, by
the way, did I say what did I

1055
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:49,410
say? Said done? Oh, well, if
you've been and then you know

1056
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:54,090
how to say Dubbo. I've been to
double. I've been to Davao many

1057
01:01:54,090 --> 01:01:57,720
times, it's all about the
breakfast. And Reggie Love is at

1058
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,180
some college thing. And he's
being interviewed. And of

1059
01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:02,940
course, he's not really noticing
the camera in the back, I

1060
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:06,660
presume. And he makes quite a
stunning admission talk about

1061
01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:09,960
the day that Osama bin Laden was
killed. Do you remember where

1062
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:15,180
you remember? Of course he of
course. I mean, I think it was

1063
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,810
it was a very, very long day. We
actually spent the entire day at

1064
01:02:18,810 --> 01:02:23,910
the White House. And probably,
you know, typically like the

1065
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:29,400
weekends, he's like, he'll work
like a half day. And this

1066
01:02:29,790 --> 01:02:35,310
Sunday. I mean, we worked the I
mean, we were there until almost

1067
01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:39,450
I mean, I think he went on TV at
midnight, and almost midnight

1068
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:46,830
and sat around in the private
dining room. Kind of like most

1069
01:02:46,830 --> 01:02:49,260
people were like down in the
Situation Room. He was like am I

1070
01:02:49,260 --> 01:02:51,540
can't I'm not going to be down
here. I can't watch this entire

1071
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:55,980
thing. I'm just so he myself.
Pete Souza, the White House

1072
01:02:55,980 --> 01:03:00,990
photographer Marvin we played we
must have played 15 Hands 15

1073
01:03:00,990 --> 01:03:06,750
games of spades. Who made a
minute can mean he wasn't there

1074
01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:09,600
that picture where everyone's
like staring and we're all like

1075
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:10,500
it was intended to

1076
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:12,389
be smelling your finger. Yeah,

1077
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,890
that picture so he that he just
wanted to clear intently. He

1078
01:03:16,890 --> 01:03:19,740
went in for the photo op and
then went and played spades with

1079
01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:22,260
Reggie Love in the executive
dining room all night.

1080
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,710
That's pretty good. To be I
know, Derby home have a clip of

1081
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:32,700
the day. But I think the day
needs a little more surprise.

1082
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:35,250
Okay, well let's listen to I was
hoping that was gonna win.

1083
01:03:35,310 --> 01:03:39,810
Here's the problem. You oversold
it. Now you're right because I

1084
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:42,840
expected Reggie Love to say
something a little more

1085
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:45,270
interesting. And then I kissed
isn't too boring.

1086
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:47,850
And then I kissed him and

1087
01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:57,720
kissed and then we did this this
year. He plays spades What a

1088
01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:00,210
lame game is there playing poker
a

1089
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,850
lot to it? I mean just the the
first of all what is spades?

1090
01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:08,730
What is the game of spades? Is
that like the old me like

1091
01:04:08,730 --> 01:04:14,430
hearts only difference like old
made it gets it gets a college

1092
01:04:14,430 --> 01:04:16,860
game. It's not even a really
great game. It's um, let me

1093
01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:17,520
think what kind of

1094
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,700
game not a good game. It's I
think it's not a family

1095
01:04:20,910 --> 01:04:22,860
Hold'em would be. Yes, I'm
sorry.

1096
01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:25,290
You're still Texas vulgar

1097
01:04:25,350 --> 01:04:26,310
strip poker.

1098
01:04:26,340 --> 01:04:31,350
Yeah. I found the hold statement
to be bizarre. Who a that give

1099
01:04:31,350 --> 01:04:33,840
the president you know, he
supposed to be like, yeah, when

1100
01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:37,080
we killed Osama bin Laden, he
wasn't even in the room.

1101
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:44,940
He's just up there playing
spades. I don't know. It's I

1102
01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:46,410
found that to be disturbing.

1103
01:04:46,649 --> 01:04:49,079
Well, he didn't say I was
playing Go fish.

1104
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:54,360
And then this other comment
which also does not jive at all

1105
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,460
with what we've heard in the
past, which I also thought was

1106
01:04:56,460 --> 01:05:00,450
kind of funny about the his
birth certificate and also This

1107
01:05:00,450 --> 01:05:02,640
thing is about who we are who
the president trusts in the

1108
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:09,060
White House. Who does he most
trust? And listen carefully

1109
01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:15,390
because I think words matter and
and emotions matter. Most trust

1110
01:05:15,420 --> 01:05:22,290
I'm definitely his wife. I think
she's, like a brilliant person.

1111
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:32,790
brilliant person. And what is
that? Like, she's a brilliant

1112
01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:33,420
person.

1113
01:05:35,970 --> 01:05:38,160
What was I'm taking the same
thing.

1114
01:05:38,189 --> 01:05:39,119
Isn't that weird?

1115
01:05:39,899 --> 01:05:41,459
You play it again. Play it
again.

1116
01:05:41,879 --> 01:05:44,369
Cuz it's like he's thinking
like, he's thinking about

1117
01:05:44,369 --> 01:05:45,719
something thinking about
something that

1118
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,610
cracked him up. Nobody has

1119
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:55,950
a nervous laugh is does he most
trust? Most trust I'm definitely

1120
01:05:55,950 --> 01:06:06,210
his wife. I think she's, like a
brilliant person. brilliant

1121
01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:10,770
person and, like space laughing
about the brilliant person or

1122
01:06:10,770 --> 01:06:15,060
like she so? I don't know,
either. But this is not

1123
01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:19,050
that we should keep that clip in
abeyance? Because someone's

1124
01:06:19,050 --> 01:06:20,910
gonna come out about that.
Something's gonna come. Yeah,

1125
01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:25,920
here we go tough. She's tough. I
think within the staff, I think

1126
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,180
probably either Pete Rouse or
rally Jared. But probably one of

1127
01:06:30,180 --> 01:06:34,650
the one of those two. Did you
say Pete Rouse. Like, hey, this

1128
01:06:34,650 --> 01:06:37,620
is I think that's his staff.
Right. He's the head of staff,

1129
01:06:38,070 --> 01:06:41,370
and Rouse and then Valerie
Jarrett. Of course, I remember

1130
01:06:41,370 --> 01:06:46,800
when he found he finally found
his birth certificate. And this

1131
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,130
is interesting. I remember when
he finally found his birth

1132
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:56,640
certificate a little too long.
You come from your parents don't

1133
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,460
live together and they travel
all over the world. documents

1134
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:05,430
get lost there really now. So so
now I'm led to believe and I

1135
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:08,280
have no reason to believe Reggie
Love is lying. I really don't.

1136
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:12,960
But now I have to believe that
this I don't think we've heard

1137
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,540
this before that the President
had lost his birth certificate

1138
01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:20,730
that he couldn't find it. That's
new information. And how do you

1139
01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:24,270
get through all of this without
ever having to get Oh, yeah.

1140
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:26,880
Parents get divorced documents
get lost? Really?

1141
01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:32,430
Yeah, I think I think he's
accurate. Well, yeah, you got a

1142
01:07:32,430 --> 01:07:35,070
bunch of really, you know, it's
all over the place was kind of

1143
01:07:35,070 --> 01:07:38,010
keep dragging this. You know, I
guess I think he's right. I

1144
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:40,770
think he's dead on I think it's
actually very accurate. I just

1145
01:07:40,770 --> 01:07:43,560
wanted to get my dad to birth
certificates real or the birth

1146
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,320
certificate, they lost in, say,
Kenya on it. I mean, who knows?

1147
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:46,740
You know,

1148
01:07:46,770 --> 01:07:49,890
what I want to go on record was
something I think I mentioned to

1149
01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:53,490
you, outside of the broadcast at
one point. And there's been a

1150
01:07:53,490 --> 01:07:58,110
number of books, movies and
television episodes that I've

1151
01:07:58,110 --> 01:08:04,380
seen recently. That all and in,
they were twins. And this is the

1152
01:08:04,410 --> 01:08:07,890
thing that keeps coming back to
me is the two Obama's which is

1153
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,910
your theory. And and I'm pretty
sure we had a switch in June and

1154
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:16,200
this is the other Obama. I'm
thinking twins. I'm thinking

1155
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,760
that was it. And that was the
reason that the birth

1156
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,060
certificate was complicated,
because there was there were the

1157
01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:27,000
there were two. Just wanted to
take birtherism to a whole new

1158
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:27,360
level.

1159
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:32,040
Yeah, I know. You had the you
have been making the off Kent

1160
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,060
off camera off. Yeah. Yeah.
Backstage. By the way, I think

1161
01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:41,010
you should take a look at Pete
Rouse, r o u s. E, and ask

1162
01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:44,700
yourself, look at his images and
ask yourself why Obama trust

1163
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:48,780
this guy. So I mean, this guy
looks like a kind of guy looks

1164
01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:53,310
like a real guy. Don't use this
word. Like like a douchebag.

1165
01:08:53,310 --> 01:08:54,480
Like a prick.

1166
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,400
Doesn't need. Where's he from?
Let me get Chicago. Oh, he's

1167
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:06,510
known as? Hold on. Wow. Where's
he from? Capitol Hill. Early

1168
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:13,440
life New Haven, Connecticut.
Okay. Huh? Japanese mother.

1169
01:09:13,770 --> 01:09:20,700
Interesting. London School of
Economics, Harvard University,

1170
01:09:20,730 --> 01:09:25,080
Capitol Hill. He was with
Dashiell Yeah, he looks like a

1171
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,860
hard ass.

1172
01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:30,570
Yeah, totally. I wouldn't want
this guy yelling at me.

1173
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,249
Know on the wiki page has a
picture of him. Yelling at the

1174
01:09:35,249 --> 01:09:41,669
President actually. You're not
doing it right. Yeah, but he's

1175
01:09:41,729 --> 01:09:43,979
he looks like he's about five
feet too.

1176
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,580
He's very short. He's well no,
he's no good. I think Obama How

1177
01:09:47,610 --> 01:09:48,270
tall is Obama?

1178
01:09:48,809 --> 01:09:50,489
Six one or six two? Yeah,

1179
01:09:50,519 --> 01:09:51,959
I think he's six to maybe higher

1180
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:55,350
Hello Wikipedia people can we
add a height and we weren't

1181
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:56,700
height on these on this guy,

1182
01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:02,580
I'm guessing is 595 10 Oh, five,
nine, maybe he's got a five

1183
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:10,590
nine, build that little guy for
that business. And he trusts

1184
01:10:10,590 --> 01:10:14,760
him. And Valerie Jarrett, of
course was like, unpaid staff or

1185
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,470
whatever she was, I don't know
if she has a position

1186
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:20,640
she is. She is the president
we're talking about. She is the

1187
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:23,430
physician. She's the actual
person. Anyway, let's finish

1188
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:30,330
this. And so he wanted to, he
wanted to just like, have like

1189
01:10:30,330 --> 01:10:33,990
an impromptu press conference
and walk in to the Press

1190
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:36,330
Briefing Room in the White House
and just like put it, the verse

1191
01:10:36,990 --> 01:10:43,470
on the podium. And everyone's
like, that's a really bad idea.

1192
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:47,460
Of course, he was like very gung
ho about doing it. Why was it?

1193
01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:52,740
So? Why would that be a really
bad idea? Yeah, no, that seems

1194
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:54,990
like a really good idea. Like
here, bitches. Here it is.

1195
01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:57,120
What's your problem? That would
have been a really good idea.

1196
01:10:57,150 --> 01:11:00,450
Maybe the verse certificate
needed some alterations

1197
01:11:00,599 --> 01:11:04,919
and some adjustments. Wait,
let's just photo had me that

1198
01:11:04,919 --> 01:11:11,849
Barry. Let me photocopy that for
a second. Don't worry. So that's

1199
01:11:11,849 --> 01:11:14,879
Reggie Love. I think Reggie Love
is talking too much.

1200
01:11:15,389 --> 01:11:18,479
He's gonna have to be put down.
Wow.

1201
01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:25,890
That's, that's pretty low. But,
ya know, I found that to be, you

1202
01:11:25,890 --> 01:11:28,680
know, that's not the image I had
of my president in either case

1203
01:11:28,710 --> 01:11:30,690
that he had lost his birth
certificate,

1204
01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:33,660
a play spades all day, if you
just said, Hey, look,

1205
01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:38,010
you know, my parents were
divorced. It's, it's lost. I

1206
01:11:38,010 --> 01:11:40,170
mean, I gotta get a copy,
whatever, I'll figure it out.

1207
01:11:40,530 --> 01:11:46,260
That would have been so much
more believable. And then, here,

1208
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:47,010
it is very

1209
01:11:47,010 --> 01:11:47,670
poorly hand.

1210
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:51,090
I found it. It's in the it's in
the box in the basement of the

1211
01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:58,080
White House. Right where I put
it. Please. All right. It's

1212
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,570
okay. This is all what you want
to believe.

1213
01:12:03,060 --> 01:12:06,540
See what we got? I have a
there's a couple of things going

1214
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:09,780
on that I thought were
interesting. One is, of course,

1215
01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:15,390
you have to meet everyone has to
monitor our tea. Because, you

1216
01:12:15,390 --> 01:12:18,480
know, this is the last ditch
effort of slamming the

1217
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,400
administration on behalf of
Putin,

1218
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,440
and I'm getting very tired of
monitoring our tea. Because

1219
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:29,550
they're really taking attacked,
which they have the wrong

1220
01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:31,980
attitude. You know what I mean?
It

1221
01:12:31,980 --> 01:12:35,220
Well, that's because you watch
Abby. Oh, no, no, I can't

1222
01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:37,680
watch the rst. Yeah, I can't
wait. Yeah, no,

1223
01:12:37,740 --> 01:12:39,480
I can't watch seven har T.

1224
01:12:39,540 --> 01:12:44,670
I turned it on. But it's just,
you know, the host doesn't work.

1225
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,470
The hosts are poor. They can
read.

1226
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:53,700
Tom, Psalm guy. He's terrible.
And then they have Max Keiser

1227
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:59,220
screaming at you. As though that
was going, you know, Max Keiser

1228
01:12:59,220 --> 01:13:04,470
is max couch is the Kramer show
Fast Money, loud money, whatever

1229
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:07,800
it's called. And so he thinks
that's the way you should act on

1230
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,140
anything, which has anything to
do with financials and so he

1231
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:14,730
screams for no apparent reason.
So he's an unwatchable. And then

1232
01:13:14,730 --> 01:13:17,100
they have these? I don't know.

1233
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,070
Nobody had no, here's the here's
the problem. I'm gonna say it

1234
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:24,420
now. And then here's the problem
I have. They come up with the

1235
01:13:24,420 --> 01:13:27,330
story. And it's an oftentimes
it's things that we're looking

1236
01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:31,440
at. But then the way they handle
the stories, they get some dude

1237
01:13:31,470 --> 01:13:34,980
on Skype talks for 10 minutes.

1238
01:13:35,010 --> 01:13:38,520
Yeah, this is like, right now
does this. Yeah. It's like, I'm

1239
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,750
not used to dizzied Yeah, some
guy out of his mouth is going

1240
01:13:42,750 --> 01:13:46,230
one way something else is coming
out. Yeah. It's horrible.

1241
01:13:46,260 --> 01:13:50,580
Yeah. But it's in 10 minutes,
and it's a horrible shot. It's

1242
01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:52,920
not interesting to look at and
you don't know who the people

1243
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:53,280
are.

1244
01:13:53,550 --> 01:13:56,730
Right? And they did right. There
are unknown jokers. Yes, the

1245
01:13:56,730 --> 01:13:59,610
Skype connection sucks and the
guy doesn't know how to set up a

1246
01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:03,780
camera. So it's like a homebrew.
It's very amateurish.

1247
01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:06,390
Exactly. Okay. There's my
problem with it.

1248
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:10,230
I don't Yeah, it's a big problem
with democracy now, too. I have

1249
01:14:10,230 --> 01:14:13,890
the same problem with them. But
let's say this so what they've

1250
01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:17,160
decided to do is they're gonna
go after all our allies and

1251
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,130
anybody that and make make it
look like all kinds of horrible

1252
01:14:20,130 --> 01:14:24,150
things, because there's a
nonsensical piece. That RT did a

1253
01:14:24,150 --> 01:14:28,740
hit piece on the Saudis, because
they figure well, let's

1254
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:32,850
embarrass Americans, because
we're in bed with the Saudis. So

1255
01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:33,990
they so this came out

1256
01:14:34,049 --> 01:14:37,439
recent week, Saudi Arabia has
launched an offensive against

1257
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,179
anti regime activists.

1258
01:14:39,599 --> 01:14:41,759
So where did they get the
English guy from?

1259
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,560
This is one of the one of the
many shows on RT and I I'm

1260
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,400
annoyed by that

1261
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,870
thing many and sentencing some
two years in jail. The total

1262
01:14:51,870 --> 01:14:55,860
number of political prisoners
has now surpassed 40,000.

1263
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:59,280
According to some reports, the
crackdown has even forced a

1264
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,880
member of the ruining family to
defect. RT Arabic spoke

1265
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,930
exclusively to Saudi prince
Khalid bin Farhan outsold who

1266
01:15:06,930 --> 01:15:10,080
accuses them on a key of
corruption and silencing all

1267
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,580
voices of dissent.

1268
01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:14,790
Okay, stop right there, stop,
stop. So they bring this guy

1269
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:17,700
down who's apparently member of
the family, and we're all

1270
01:15:17,700 --> 01:15:22,470
family, we have to remember is
about 30 to 40,000 people. And

1271
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,860
they all get a piece of the
action. And so this guy, instead

1272
01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:29,550
of wanting a piece of the action
decides to break away and bitch.

1273
01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:33,000
And in the process, he talks
about anyone who does what he is

1274
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,510
now doing, they get killed. But
there he is, he's got no,

1275
01:15:36,510 --> 01:15:39,480
there's no bubble over his head.
There's no voice changer.

1276
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,220
There's nothing. He's just
standing there yakking away. So

1277
01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:44,340
this guy is obviously a shill.
He probably is not a member of

1278
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:47,040
the family and be honest about I
don't think anybody in the

1279
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,150
family knows who's

1280
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:50,850
probably with Skype in Hoboken.

1281
01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:54,810
Well, that's a possibility too.
But anyway, so we'll go on from

1282
01:15:54,810 --> 01:15:58,710
there. And then the government
is obviously scared of the Arab

1283
01:15:58,710 --> 01:16:02,280
revolutions. And they've
responded as they usually do by

1284
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,640
resorting to oppression,
violence, arbitrary law and

1285
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,360
arrest. The easiest thing they
can do is deprive you of your

1286
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,800
salary or fire you altogether.
The ruling regime is not guided

1287
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,740
by justice. And this is
especially true of the Ministry

1288
01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:20,970
of Interior. There is no
independent judiciary, as both

1289
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:24,180
police and the prosecutor's
office are accountable to the

1290
01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:28,560
interior ministry. The ministry
is officials investigate crimes.

1291
01:16:28,830 --> 01:16:33,180
They call them crimes related to
freedom of speech. So they

1292
01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:37,590
fabricate evidence, don't allow
people to have attorneys, things

1293
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:40,650
like that happen all over the
place. They even put people

1294
01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:44,610
under arrest for an indefinite
amount of time. Even if a court

1295
01:16:44,610 --> 01:16:47,490
rules to release such a
criminal. The Ministry of

1296
01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:50,820
Interior keeps him in prison,
even though there is a court

1297
01:16:50,820 --> 01:16:54,870
order to release him. All right,
so I listened to this and

1298
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:57,720
thinking was his hit piece on
the Saudis. I realized that's

1299
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,140
not what they're up to. Being in
the propaganda, the nation

1300
01:17:01,140 --> 01:17:03,420
that's really done a very good
job of propaganda. This is not

1301
01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:08,010
about anything, but us rolled,
all the references are parallel.

1302
01:17:08,670 --> 01:17:11,550
And so what you do is you roll
out these parallel references

1303
01:17:11,550 --> 01:17:14,550
firstly, create this this
Boogeyman. Oh, these guys are

1304
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:18,090
horrible. And then you just
discuss how horrible they are.

1305
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:21,810
And so you discuss Oh,
indefinite detention, court

1306
01:17:21,810 --> 01:17:24,750
ordered orders released, but
they won't release them anyway.

1307
01:17:24,990 --> 01:17:29,340
All this is what we are doing at
Gitmo and right, so this is an

1308
01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:31,590
interesting thing to start
looking for when you're watching

1309
01:17:31,620 --> 01:17:35,910
RT, which is that this parallel?
In other words, you do this is

1310
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:39,600
not the same as guilt by
association. But it's a kind of

1311
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,720
a, which I gotten to a beef on
Twitter about, by the way, but

1312
01:17:42,750 --> 01:17:47,250
you were this one guy there.
Anyway, the it's, it's it's

1313
01:17:47,670 --> 01:17:51,450
create a parallel universe, it'd
be very critical of it and have

1314
01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:55,440
a rationale for it being a
horrible, but what you describe

1315
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:57,030
is the United States,

1316
01:17:57,060 --> 01:18:00,450
let me ask you a question. So
very cute, but who are they

1317
01:18:00,450 --> 01:18:04,050
trying to impress with this is?
Are they trying to influence the

1318
01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:08,310
American public? Because as a
media professional, you're not

1319
01:18:08,370 --> 01:18:12,900
hitting the mark, you're off
with this? Who is this just a

1320
01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:16,740
politician so that we got the
Russians going? Watch this

1321
01:18:16,740 --> 01:18:20,760
piece? They will hate it. You
know, what is the point? It's

1322
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,290
just a waste of bandwidth?

1323
01:18:22,530 --> 01:18:26,010
Well, you know, I think your
point is well taken as the as

1324
01:18:26,010 --> 01:18:30,450
the term would be, I think
they're just practicing. I think

1325
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:34,920
that this our whole RT thing is
just a bunch of test marketing,

1326
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,860
see what sticks, see what
catches on, they got a whole

1327
01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:42,510
24/7 to themselves. They put the
weirdest stuff on. They just I

1328
01:18:42,510 --> 01:18:45,210
think they're testing and
testing and testing because I

1329
01:18:45,210 --> 01:18:48,570
think they're so old fashioned
by now, the Russians that they

1330
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:50,610
will say, they have to
experiment. Listen

1331
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,460
here. Okay. I've been thinking
about this for a while because

1332
01:18:53,460 --> 01:18:56,970
I've been, I've been evaluating
what what Zucker is doing at

1333
01:18:56,970 --> 01:19:01,410
CNN, which by CNN, he's
destroying it. He's he's doing

1334
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:06,390
everything exactly wrong. And
these are T guys they're doing

1335
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:09,000
now we gave them early on, we
gave them some tips and they

1336
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,310
didn't follow up and now they've
gone so far in the wrong

1337
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:14,640
direction, that I think they
should really turn up the roof

1338
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,820
ski angle, they should get a
couple of Netherwood Bridgette

1339
01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:20,520
Nielsen used to look like when
she when she was young. And she

1340
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,820
was really smoking hot. And they
need to put one of those Russian

1341
01:19:23,820 --> 01:19:27,270
hats on her, you know, like the,
like the bear hat with you the

1342
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:31,080
military table saves this table
hat. And yeah, and have the, you

1343
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,080
know, the push up bra, and just
have her with a Russian accent

1344
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,220
just saying, God, these pigs,
these American scum pigs, and

1345
01:19:38,220 --> 01:19:41,040
really just turn it up, you
know, because I would watch

1346
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:41,580
that.

1347
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:46,020
I think you might be onto
something and that here's let me

1348
01:19:46,050 --> 01:19:51,510
relate once the old story I
think from 1996 So I'm first

1349
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:55,110
trip I took to Beijing with a
group of people from PC

1350
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:57,840
computing. I'm there with Paul
SummerSlam and others and we go

1351
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,670
there we're kind of stunned
because we've never been to

1352
01:19:59,670 --> 01:20:02,430
China. And and this is the
middle of it. And you know,

1353
01:20:02,430 --> 01:20:05,730
there's no we both of us
actually commented on this

1354
01:20:05,730 --> 01:20:09,570
because in 96 it was still Red
China and all the rest and we

1355
01:20:09,570 --> 01:20:13,410
were looking for the bolt, you
know, the giant, the giant what

1356
01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:16,800
we have in our country, that
giant speaker system, the giant

1357
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,560
voice system, the giant voices
and we're expecting that there's

1358
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:25,470
nothing like that in China and
people were in the house now

1359
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:29,220
people are wearing to Hawaiian
shirts and not wearing those any

1360
01:20:29,310 --> 01:20:33,330
mouthing nothing. So he got to
the point where we said Where

1361
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,550
can we get a poster of mouth say
doing or get one of those, those

1362
01:20:38,580 --> 01:20:42,270
those outfits that that crazy
looking shirt they were? And the

1363
01:20:42,270 --> 01:20:45,210
first is of what are you nuts?
Nobody wants that stuff. And all

1364
01:20:45,210 --> 01:20:48,780
those shirts were rounded up and
sent to the peasants near the

1365
01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:49,710
border areas.

1366
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,960
And you're looking and you're
looking for souvenirs and you're

1367
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,340
insulting. Yeah, yeah.

1368
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,250
So I we finally got somebody to
go into the library and get a

1369
01:20:56,250 --> 01:20:58,950
smile posters. We got some
classics. But we got some

1370
01:20:58,950 --> 01:21:01,890
posters out of the country. But
I was always thinking to myself,

1371
01:21:02,190 --> 01:21:05,760
why aren't they milking it? I
mean, you can have you the

1372
01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:08,670
tourists are starting to come
in. We were tourists, and we're

1373
01:21:08,670 --> 01:21:12,570
looking for my jackets, and then
nothing. There was nothing. So

1374
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:16,020
now they stood this day, they
really aren't milking it the way

1375
01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:20,760
they could the Russians have a
number of stereotypes. Of which

1376
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:25,530
one is that is the heartbeat
news. Yeah. And

1377
01:21:25,530 --> 01:21:30,120
so they could they could take,
they could milk the stereotypes.

1378
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:33,180
In fact, no, stop, stop, I
stopped. This is what we're

1379
01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:41,220
going to do. I am now opening up
the phone lines. Open I'm

1380
01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:46,920
opening up submissions for hot
Russian chicks. And we will

1381
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,820
write a story. And we'll just do
one story. What in fact, we'll

1382
01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:54,510
know even better. We will take
the exact Russia Today stories

1383
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:58,890
as they've written them and just
have a hot Russian chick with a

1384
01:21:58,890 --> 01:22:01,650
Russian accent. Just read it in
your mind embellish a little

1385
01:22:01,650 --> 01:22:06,240
bit. You know, like let's see
the imperialistic regime Obama,

1386
01:22:06,270 --> 01:22:08,820
you know, that kind of stuff.
Right. That's it. They should be

1387
01:22:08,820 --> 01:22:13,500
doing this. And I would watch
that'd be like, they need to be

1388
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:17,130
confident. This is why Fox is
winning. You see, because Fox is

1389
01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:20,940
not snide, and they're not like
Neener Neener No, they're not

1390
01:22:20,969 --> 01:22:22,829
no watch Bill Bill Reilly

1391
01:22:24,270 --> 01:22:29,280
No, but they're not he's, he's
beyond in. These are different,

1392
01:22:29,370 --> 01:22:33,030
really believes everything. But
they're not really like Nene or

1393
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:34,980
need anything like, you know,
hey, here's the facts we're

1394
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:38,400
reporting on. And by the way, do
I have some killer legs or what?

1395
01:22:38,610 --> 01:22:42,810
Yeah, no, they got to leggy,
chatty. Nailing at that cutie

1396
01:22:42,810 --> 01:22:45,540
that little cute girl that they
use? Yes. Which administrative

1397
01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:47,340
Perino she's very pretty, and
that's

1398
01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:51,660
nailing it because it's so you
need to take a real and bio, I

1399
01:22:51,660 --> 01:22:57,780
think Fox News. They do approach
stories from a news angle, and

1400
01:22:57,780 --> 01:23:01,830
people are tired of it. They're
tired of your newspapers that

1401
01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:06,120
suck off politicians. And that
just kowtow The New York Times

1402
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,730
is trying this now they're
trying a little bit, they're

1403
01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:12,150
pushing a little bit against
Hillary. But that's not the the

1404
01:23:12,150 --> 01:23:15,300
DNA of the New York Times.
That's Mark Thompson, that's mi

1405
01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:18,660
six who they've let creep in.
The British intelligence is now

1406
01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:21,180
running this paper, British
intelligence is running the

1407
01:23:21,180 --> 01:23:24,630
guardian. That's why people read
these papers that British

1408
01:23:24,630 --> 01:23:27,510
intelligence is running the
Daily Mail. And because of it,

1409
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:33,840
they have a very can do
journalistic attitude because

1410
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:38,190
they have nothing but the enemy
in their sight. And I think a

1411
01:23:38,190 --> 01:23:42,720
good journalistic outfit should
see everybody, I think that's

1412
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,120
how I how I approach it,
although I don't want to call

1413
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,300
myself a journalist, is you've
got to, you know, whoever is

1414
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:51,120
telling me something, you're the
enemy, just from the get go, I

1415
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,930
have to look at the opposite of
what you're saying all the time.

1416
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,520
And this is and this is how you
will be successful because

1417
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,640
people want to see the other
side if they just want to be

1418
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,430
jerked off. You know, there's
plenty of plenty of places for

1419
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:09,540
that. And that's what CNN is now
trying to do. They just do more

1420
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,900
than trying to make it prettier.
And then Jeff Zucker, oh, we

1421
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:16,200
have a new digital platform.
Listen, I've been around the

1422
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,440
internet for a long time.
Nothing I've ever seen called

1423
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:27,510
digital platform has ever been
successful. Ever, ever. So I

1424
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:30,390
think we could do it and you
know what, sir Jean Baron of

1425
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:36,060
DiMaria to share from Texas. He
knows hot Russian chicks. So I'm

1426
01:24:36,060 --> 01:24:38,640
gonna I'm gonna have him recruit
some he knows he knows all the

1427
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,100
hot chicks in Dallas all the hot
Russians and they speak Russian.

1428
01:24:41,670 --> 01:24:44,190
And they got the accent work and
we're going to do the whole

1429
01:24:44,190 --> 01:24:46,980
thing. We're going to put the
hat on a shipment Mickey can do

1430
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:49,980
a green screen telling little
Mickey can do this. Mickey can

1431
01:24:49,980 --> 01:24:52,110
look like Russian. I think we
can make her a Russian What do

1432
01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:53,160
you think? Well, we

1433
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,680
need to have real Russians. It's
noticeable. She's not Russian.

1434
01:24:55,890 --> 01:24:56,520
Okay.

1435
01:24:57,450 --> 01:24:59,700
Yeah, you're right. What am I
thinking when you real Russians

1436
01:24:59,700 --> 01:25:00,180
and just had

1437
01:25:00,180 --> 01:25:03,210
this and it's not like there's a
paucity of them.

1438
01:25:03,330 --> 01:25:05,250
So and we'll do Russia tomorrow.

1439
01:25:08,610 --> 01:25:13,920
No, I think we should not that
Harz, the pigs, imperialistic,

1440
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,230
the pretender President Obama,

1441
01:25:16,589 --> 01:25:21,329
and that yeah, the pretender
president, the fascistic, all

1442
01:25:21,329 --> 01:25:22,829
these words, you just gotta use
it,

1443
01:25:22,860 --> 01:25:27,840
Oren and Obama. Yeah, and be a
great show.

1444
01:25:28,260 --> 01:25:32,610
Always, always call them Barry
Sottero is always President

1445
01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:37,050
Barry Sutera president, that's
what they should do. And it

1446
01:25:37,050 --> 01:25:39,630
would be hilarious and you'd
watch it and I bet you you could

1447
01:25:39,630 --> 01:25:43,170
actually get some real and you
could get people interested in

1448
01:25:43,170 --> 01:25:45,120
giving you real information
sneak

1449
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,950
in some real good property guys.

1450
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,410
So on that this Egypt thing.

1451
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,380
Yeah, these guys you're right.
There's Russian today guys are

1452
01:25:52,380 --> 01:25:55,170
completely lost a lost cause
they get no numbers. Nobody's

1453
01:25:55,170 --> 01:25:58,410
watching this crap. That guys
are boring. They're trying to do

1454
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:02,250
too intellectual. And they got
you know, their best bet is Abby

1455
01:26:02,250 --> 01:26:05,220
Martin who's just not you know,
it's from

1456
01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:05,850
Oakland.

1457
01:26:06,179 --> 01:26:10,349
She's from Oakland. I mean, come
on. Comrade Russian chicks all

1458
01:26:10,349 --> 01:26:12,419
over the country. They're all
over the United States. There's

1459
01:26:12,419 --> 01:26:15,149
tons of them. Many of them came
over as brides.

1460
01:26:15,690 --> 01:26:20,250
Yeah. The capitalistic scum of
Berryessa Terrell's

1461
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:21,210
administration.

1462
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:25,200
Pac Man.

1463
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:28,560
So what's your take on on what's
happening here in Egypt?

1464
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:32,700
Yeah, I've been trying I didn't
get any clips on this. I may

1465
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:37,440
have one one loan clip that has
something to do with I watched

1466
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,620
a lot I've read a lot. It
appears to well first of all,

1467
01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:41,100
it's not Oh,

1468
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:44,280
wait, wait. I do have one clip.
I gotta get it'll be a good

1469
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,000
little aside as we do it. This
play the detained and beaten

1470
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:52,140
clip part one, which is the one
that's the one that says just

1471
01:26:52,140 --> 01:26:53,670
what No, there's no number.
Yeah,

1472
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:56,490
I gotcha. Can I play it? Sorry.
It

1473
01:26:56,490 --> 01:26:59,880
was declared a month long state
of emergency and imposed a

1474
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:04,800
nighttime curfew on Cairo and 10
provinces. As night fell, police

1475
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,500
announced they had taken
complete control of the citizen

1476
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:11,250
sites in Cairo. I said earlier
that President Morsi had been

1477
01:27:11,250 --> 01:27:14,520
ousted in late June. It was
actually early July. A short

1478
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,120
time ago I spoke to Newsweek and
daily business correspondent

1479
01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:21,810
Mike Giglio covering the
dispersal of a pro Morsi site in

1480
01:27:21,810 --> 01:27:26,130
Cairo today. He was temporarily
detained and beaten by Egyptian

1481
01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:27,180
security forces.

1482
01:27:28,290 --> 01:27:31,290
And did they have him on? Did
they have him on have him on?

1483
01:27:32,610 --> 01:27:35,850
The casually detained and beaten
thing kind of gets on? Yeah. Did

1484
01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:37,410
he have a black eye? Did he?

1485
01:27:37,889 --> 01:27:41,189
Well, they had him on a on a on
an audio call, but play the

1486
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:44,669
second part. And then I have a
question as to the way they

1487
01:27:44,669 --> 01:27:45,899
handled these reports.

1488
01:27:45,929 --> 01:27:50,399
My Giglio Welcome to describe
what you saw today at the camp

1489
01:27:50,399 --> 01:27:52,469
dispersal and and what happened
to you.

1490
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:57,000
So I was at the camp that robot
before the crackdown even

1491
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:01,380
started and I was there as the
police vehicles rolled in. And

1492
01:28:01,380 --> 01:28:05,100
as police opened fire on the
crowd. And we're standing on the

1493
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:07,560
police lines, watching them
shoot the tear gas at the

1494
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,500
protesters and also watching
them shoot live rounds, and you

1495
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:13,950
guys are described. And after
about an hour or so the police

1496
01:28:13,950 --> 01:28:17,640
seem to decide that they didn't
want journalists, at least on

1497
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:23,400
that side of the conflict. So
they rounded up me and a couple

1498
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,300
of photographers and they beat
us after we identify as being

1499
01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:30,480
journalists. And then they
detained us for about four hours

1500
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:32,160
along with a number of
protesters from the Senate.

1501
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,420
Was there any warning this
morning before they came into

1502
01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:37,890
the into the protest camp?

1503
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,940
There wasn't. I got there around
6am. And yes.

1504
01:28:43,290 --> 01:28:47,460
The way it came across to me is
like Are you a journalist? Yes.

1505
01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:52,200
Now, here's the question that
comes immediately to everybody's

1506
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,980
mind. What is it? This is
definition of beaten? Yeah. Did

1507
01:28:55,980 --> 01:28:59,190
he get punched? Did he lose a
tooth? Yeah. Did he get hit with

1508
01:28:59,190 --> 01:29:02,760
a with a baton? Was he beaten to
death was he stomped and kicked

1509
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,210
on the ground? Was he punched in
the gut? Was he knee to the

1510
01:29:06,210 --> 01:29:09,600
groin? Was he slapped across the
face? Was he given a throat

1511
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,890
chop? I mean, what did happen
was he was he suddenly flick his

1512
01:29:13,890 --> 01:29:16,710
nose constituted beating I don't
know

1513
01:29:16,710 --> 01:29:19,530
Okay, so here's so I think
there's there's definitely

1514
01:29:19,530 --> 01:29:22,380
something going on in Egypt and
I have I have with some thoughts

1515
01:29:22,380 --> 01:29:26,400
about it. This reporter I think
he might have been in his hotel.

1516
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,370
He sounds like he's full of
shit. Sounds like he's lying.

1517
01:29:29,610 --> 01:29:32,220
Like he's just making up a story
and this is not beyond the

1518
01:29:32,220 --> 01:29:37,140
mainstream media to do that. No,
no, I my I agree with you know,

1519
01:29:37,290 --> 01:29:42,600
admits with The Daily Beast if
Oh, okay. Well, there you go.

1520
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,520
He's, he's, he's staying at the
Sheraton. He probably didn't

1521
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,920
leave his hotel room. It just
doesn't sound like that. Because

1522
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,880
if I was there in the camp, and
the police come in and start

1523
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,540
beating me, can I be Looby
pretty graphic, and I'd be

1524
01:29:57,540 --> 01:30:01,050
tweeting pictures and all kinds
of stuff. I'd be bitching about

1525
01:30:01,050 --> 01:30:02,460
it. Yeah. What's the guy's name
again?

1526
01:30:02,970 --> 01:30:04,050
I don't know. Don't care.

1527
01:30:04,290 --> 01:30:05,940
Well, I thought maybe there
might be a picture of him.

1528
01:30:07,950 --> 01:30:10,860
A little beaten. Yeah, point.
I'll look it up while you're

1529
01:30:10,889 --> 01:30:15,059
gone. Okay, so here's here's
what I'm worried about. I

1530
01:30:15,059 --> 01:30:19,199
clearly this is not well, we
know that we're trying to bring

1531
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:25,529
in Ford now as our ambassador.
What's his name? Ambassador

1532
01:30:25,529 --> 01:30:27,449
Ford, who was the ambassador to
Syria.

1533
01:30:29,460 --> 01:30:31,920
Remember, the Fenty is part of
the Ford family. Right?

1534
01:30:32,580 --> 01:30:35,790
Pretty sure. Now this works. Now
this guy is

1535
01:30:36,690 --> 01:30:39,270
Robert for that. So don't go too
far. There were several cops

1536
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:43,440
punching and slapping me in the
head. So I said, Okay, this is

1537
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:46,470
the get to report in The Daily
Beast. There is no picture of

1538
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:49,440
him be there's no picture of
him. But he's got a

1539
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:55,050
picture of his face beaten up.
You think I'm just said that's

1540
01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:58,140
what I would do. Maybe he thinks
it's an journalistic or

1541
01:30:58,140 --> 01:30:58,830
something. I don't know,

1542
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:01,500
whatever. Okay, go on your
story. Okay, so

1543
01:31:01,530 --> 01:31:06,690
So President Obama is trying to
is attempting to have Robert

1544
01:31:06,690 --> 01:31:11,280
Ford, become the ambassador to
Egypt. Now Robert Ford, is

1545
01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:17,880
pretty well known. For his Who
was the guy, the original guy

1546
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,360
who had all the death squads in
the in like the early days?

1547
01:31:22,830 --> 01:31:25,440
It'll come to me in a minute.
But he's kind of a student of

1548
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:29,160
this idea of policy by Death
Squad. In fact, he was the

1549
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,860
ambassador to Syria, and lo and
behold, what do we have in

1550
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:36,510
Syria? We've got, you know,
terrorist and death squads that

1551
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,410
I would argue have been put in
there by American intelligence

1552
01:31:40,410 --> 01:31:45,510
services. So they want him to be
a part of, of the Egyptian

1553
01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:51,870
system, what's going on? And I'm
worried because to me, it feels

1554
01:31:51,870 --> 01:31:56,220
like what's happening now? Is
not the Americans, and is not

1555
01:31:56,220 --> 01:32:00,600
the Russians. It feels like it's
either a third party, which

1556
01:32:00,810 --> 01:32:07,080
could be if it's really some,
you know, like some third

1557
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,590
banking party or something, you
know, like just real high level

1558
01:32:10,590 --> 01:32:13,860
people who just want to screw up
the Middle East, then we're then

1559
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,570
then I'm really worried about
it.

1560
01:32:16,050 --> 01:32:18,090
What about the Brits? Yeah,

1561
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:20,970
I don't think they have that
kind of power anymore. I don't

1562
01:32:20,970 --> 01:32:23,790
think the Brits can do it can
can get something like this

1563
01:32:23,790 --> 01:32:27,450
started. But it's apparent we've
got Al Bara die, who was the

1564
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:29,940
vice president of something he
quit. Now we know he's an

1565
01:32:29,940 --> 01:32:32,220
International Crisis Group,
guys. So you know, he's an

1566
01:32:32,220 --> 01:32:36,000
American shill. He's out.
Everybody's jumping the ship?

1567
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:40,560
And it could all it could also
be that this is truly, you know,

1568
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,370
what happens to countries when
people have just had enough?

1569
01:32:45,690 --> 01:32:49,110
No, because that does happen.
Yeah. And this revolution was

1570
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:51,120
not caused by the CIA, right?
And

1571
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,140
you can look at this look very
closely. This could happen in

1572
01:32:55,140 --> 01:32:57,930
America, and it may be a
different version. I'm not so

1573
01:32:57,930 --> 01:33:01,350
sure about the military piece of
it. But this this kind of stuff

1574
01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:05,580
could happen. You know, this,
this is, this is one thing for

1575
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:10,350
sure. This is not good. This
region, and anyone who if this

1576
01:33:10,350 --> 01:33:13,740
whole if the Northern Africa and
the Middle East, if all of that

1577
01:33:13,770 --> 01:33:18,180
destabilized this bad for
everybody, it's really that will

1578
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:19,500
result in no good.

1579
01:33:19,860 --> 01:33:26,070
Well, I I can understand Russian
involvement with the help of the

1580
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:30,510
Chinese maybe maybe, but it
doesn't, just detracts, it takes

1581
01:33:30,510 --> 01:33:33,960
a little pressure off the Syria
situation. I mean, I don't think

1582
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,350
the Russians care much of all
hell breaks loose in some

1583
01:33:37,380 --> 01:33:41,220
country that we've essentially
controlled for all time, or at

1584
01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:47,280
least modern time or post World
War Two. And the Russians, you

1585
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,820
know, the whole place goes to
pot like Lebanon, the Russians

1586
01:33:50,820 --> 01:33:53,490
could care. I don't think they
care. Well, I

1587
01:33:53,490 --> 01:33:55,440
think I think they had to take

1588
01:33:55,469 --> 01:33:58,409
the pressure off their problems
in Syria, because they're doing

1589
01:33:58,409 --> 01:34:00,869
the proxy war there. And they're
like, Hey, you guys want to play

1590
01:34:00,869 --> 01:34:02,219
this way? We can do this. Let's
see.

1591
01:34:02,220 --> 01:34:06,600
It seems like it would be to
destabilize this region, which

1592
01:34:06,630 --> 01:34:11,040
houses a lot of the energy that
the Texas based companies depend

1593
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,480
on, really opens up for the
Russians to do you know, they

1594
01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:22,170
just did a deal with LG, not
Algeria. Beaucoup Azerbaijan.

1595
01:34:23,010 --> 01:34:25,950
They just did an oil and gas
deal. And this was our this was

1596
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:29,100
our turf. This is the Hillary
Clinton went we had the

1597
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:34,680
Eurovision Song Contest in, in,
in Azerbaijan. We all were

1598
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,500
supposed to own that. And now
Putin walks in and he's done an

1599
01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:41,790
oil and gas deal with them. I
mean, we're, we suck.

1600
01:34:42,780 --> 01:34:45,870
Well, something else is going to
they're doing. The Russians have

1601
01:34:45,870 --> 01:34:49,770
got some sales thing going on
that we don't. It's not bad, or

1602
01:34:50,070 --> 01:34:53,070
at least the two of us don't
have a clue as to what it is

1603
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:55,980
what seems very simple, John, it
seems like they have all the

1604
01:34:55,980 --> 01:34:58,890
other routes outside of the
Middle East. They've got

1605
01:34:58,890 --> 01:35:01,620
everything going through. You
know, the the caucuses to

1606
01:35:01,620 --> 01:35:05,250
Georgia, the Black Sea, the you
know, everything runs through

1607
01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:07,650
Turkey it's all Russia, Russia,
Russia, everything that comes

1608
01:35:07,650 --> 01:35:12,540
south of Turkey from from the
Middle East, it's a mess. It's a

1609
01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:16,050
mess. The Mediterranean is going
to be a mess. And that's where

1610
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,780
that's where it all you know,
we're all our companies or

1611
01:35:18,780 --> 01:35:23,850
that's the way I see it. It's
maybe simplistic. Maybe it's

1612
01:35:23,850 --> 01:35:27,690
just that's just simplistic. I
don't know. But what if Egypt if

1613
01:35:27,690 --> 01:35:27,900
that

1614
01:35:27,900 --> 01:35:30,630
doesn't calm down your Bhaijaan
thing is kind of weird. I have

1615
01:35:30,630 --> 01:35:33,930
to say, Well, that wasn't that
supposed to be ours? I would

1616
01:35:33,930 --> 01:35:40,890
think Yeah. Huh, no, no. Well,
this Egypt thing is so it should

1617
01:35:40,890 --> 01:35:43,320
shake out to the point where we
can figure it out. I mean, right

1618
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,560
now, just like just random
rioting everywhere. And if I

1619
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:50,310
see another CNN journalist
ducking for cover on camera and

1620
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:55,080
come on. Do your story from the
Sheraton. Just give me some

1621
01:35:55,080 --> 01:36:00,120
information. None of this like
well, it was really scary. I get

1622
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,360
it. Putin is visit designed to
discuss a wide range of

1623
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,060
bilateral issues including
trade, energy, transportation

1624
01:36:06,090 --> 01:36:12,630
and the Nagorno Karabakh
conflict. Rosneft that's their

1625
01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:15,270
company reported that it also
agreed with the state oil

1626
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:18,480
company of Azerbaijan to jointly
use pipelines and terminals to

1627
01:36:18,510 --> 01:36:23,850
optimize supplies to consumers.
That would be Europe hello hello

1628
01:36:23,850 --> 01:36:25,170
consumers of Europe.

1629
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,990
Consumers in Europe ah

1630
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,180
that guy's smart guys very
smart.

1631
01:36:33,389 --> 01:36:37,559
So I find it interesting couple
of clips about talking about

1632
01:36:37,559 --> 01:36:42,359
foreign stuff so John Kerry
Waterson head Jews stories that

1633
01:36:42,359 --> 01:36:47,519
came up one of them just typical
democracy now dead pan report.

1634
01:36:47,819 --> 01:36:50,549
But the other one I thought was
funny, this was this my last AR

1635
01:36:50,549 --> 01:36:54,479
T clip, which is that you know,
they these guys again are trying

1636
01:36:54,599 --> 01:37:00,869
to do stuff by being coy and
intellectual and cute. And I

1637
01:37:00,869 --> 01:37:04,469
thought this was was kind of
cute. But this is the way this

1638
01:37:04,469 --> 01:37:08,369
just this was a longer report
about Carrie and what he's up to

1639
01:37:08,399 --> 01:37:14,279
buy one of these does the fat
bald guy that's on our T and and

1640
01:37:14,279 --> 01:37:17,879
it's and he just throws this in
as a descriptor. And I thought

1641
01:37:17,879 --> 01:37:21,119
this was like Okay, I'm getting
this I get it. I get it. Just

1642
01:37:21,149 --> 01:37:26,489
the carry assumes a clip. Be
massive NSA snooping revelations

1643
01:37:26,490 --> 01:37:29,730
have cast a shadow over John
Kerry's trip to Latin America.

1644
01:37:29,940 --> 01:37:32,460
His first visit there since he
assumed the position of

1645
01:37:32,460 --> 01:37:33,240
Secretary of State

1646
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:42,240
assumed the position of
Secretary of State was That's

1647
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:48,120
funny. That's funny. I know. Was
that our tea? Yeah. So imagine

1648
01:37:48,150 --> 01:37:51,990
we've got this hot chick, right.
And she's got the boobs and

1649
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:55,380
she's got I think she has a fur
coat with nothing on underneath

1650
01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:58,170
it. But it's cool. It's closed.

1651
01:37:59,190 --> 01:38:01,830
Some slinky seal. Okay, okay,
whenever

1652
01:38:01,830 --> 01:38:05,100
the slinky but I did want the
hat with the red star on the

1653
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:10,110
front. Kennedy who assumed the
position of Secretary of State

1654
01:38:10,110 --> 01:38:16,020
from that madwoman something
like that. From Mr. Hillary

1655
01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:20,850
Clinton just say stuff like that
it would be funny. I'm telling

1656
01:38:20,850 --> 01:38:23,700
you it ratings through the roof
they will be outraged. There

1657
01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:26,820
would be congressional hearings
about yes, there would be

1658
01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:30,060
congressional hearing can you
imagine NPR would be playing

1659
01:38:30,060 --> 01:38:35,160
clips of RT that just why don't
people why can't we get a gig

1660
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:36,570
consulting these people?

1661
01:38:36,810 --> 01:38:40,980
We should I think we could make
that network just saying

1662
01:38:40,980 --> 01:38:42,480
we know enough Russians.

1663
01:38:42,510 --> 01:38:45,450
The Russians themselves are too.
They're there. They haven't got

1664
01:38:45,450 --> 01:38:49,740
the guts to actually be
themselves. We can help where

1665
01:38:49,740 --> 01:38:51,060
they drink and all the time.

1666
01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:56,070
Yeah, and then we can get just
get vodka sponsors the whole

1667
01:38:56,070 --> 01:39:01,530
time. Oh, just all vodka. Vodka
and caviar.

1668
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:05,370
One after another. And we have
all vodka.

1669
01:39:06,930 --> 01:39:12,900
We get like Jay Z and Kanye and
and all these guys to have their

1670
01:39:12,900 --> 01:39:17,670
own vodka brands promoting it.
And Diddy. Yeah. Oh kidding me

1671
01:39:17,670 --> 01:39:21,540
be great. All right. Don't
listen to me. Don't listen to

1672
01:39:21,540 --> 01:39:23,700
me. I don't know what I'm
talking about. Okay, here

1673
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:27,630
we go. So meanwhile, here's the
story that came out this was

1674
01:39:27,630 --> 01:39:32,310
under report on demotion now but
John Kerry the other carry clip.

1675
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:36,360
I just want to I can't believe
when I heard this. I couldn't

1676
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,990
believe it. Because this is like
seems to me to be grounds for

1677
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:44,490
firing the staff. Because you
can't you can't run a sec

1678
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:49,350
Department of State. When you
hear this clip, you get you

1679
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:53,100
listen to you go. How screwed up
is our government.

1680
01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:56,880
The Bureau of Investigative
Journalism says last month saw

1681
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,000
three US drone strikes carried
out in Pakistan the highest

1682
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,150
December since January. Last
week Secretary of State John

1683
01:40:03,150 --> 01:40:07,050
Kerry told Pakistanis in a TV
interview, President Obama had a

1684
01:40:07,050 --> 01:40:10,800
very real timeline for ending
the strikes. But the State

1685
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,010
Department's own spokespeople
quickly contradicted him. Jen

1686
01:40:14,010 --> 01:40:17,940
Psaki said in a statement, there
was no exact timeline while

1687
01:40:17,970 --> 01:40:21,420
Marie Harf said quote in no way
would we ever deprive ourselves

1688
01:40:21,420 --> 01:40:23,550
of a tool to fight a threat if
it arises.

1689
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:29,160
Who didn't read the memo?

1690
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:38,130
Wow. That is so humiliating for
Kerry. He says something. You

1691
01:40:38,130 --> 01:40:41,100
know, Chris is a blowhard. So
who knows? He may have made it

1692
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:44,190
up. Yeah. Which I've actually
believe he might have just I

1693
01:40:44,220 --> 01:40:46,980
don't know, I'm convinced he's
just talking out of his

1694
01:40:46,980 --> 01:40:49,740
butthole. And they're they're
actually trying to cover up for

1695
01:40:49,740 --> 01:40:51,810
their boss and make it you know,
fix it.

1696
01:40:52,860 --> 01:40:56,040
That has to be it because this
is insubordination. Otherwise,

1697
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:58,170
you know, you've made your major
these

1698
01:40:58,170 --> 01:40:59,970
have. This guy is just

1699
01:41:01,020 --> 01:41:03,030
I think he's an idiot. Yeah.
Well, I

1700
01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:05,250
mean, he's obviously not a super
idiot, but

1701
01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:08,520
I'm not sure of that. Yeah.

1702
01:41:08,820 --> 01:41:13,170
I don't think he has the I don't
know. I don't know. He's over

1703
01:41:13,170 --> 01:41:15,840
there playing nice. He's an
actor. He's an actor. He looks

1704
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,410
the part. He's got the yacht,
you know, he should have been

1705
01:41:19,410 --> 01:41:23,790
President. This is his problem.
He that's why he still signs his

1706
01:41:23,790 --> 01:41:27,960
name, John F. Kerry, you know,
he, he he wanted to be president

1707
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:32,550
from the day he popped out of
the womb. And it's worked out

1708
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:33,360
that way for

1709
01:41:34,169 --> 01:41:38,129
it looks like again at so just
the last part of this there. To

1710
01:41:38,129 --> 01:41:41,669
follow up on that story.
Democracy Now went on with the

1711
01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:44,309
drones in the double tap, which
I just think I wanted to play

1712
01:41:44,309 --> 01:41:46,529
just for informational purposes.
So

1713
01:41:47,670 --> 01:41:51,600
yeah, Guerrero has also released
new evidence the CIA targeted

1714
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,270
rescuers last year at the scene
of prior drone strikes in

1715
01:41:54,270 --> 01:41:57,810
Pakistan, conducting so called
Double Tap strikes, and in some

1716
01:41:57,810 --> 01:42:00,840
cases may be considered war
crimes. The reports are the

1717
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,060
latest sign there's been little
change in the Obama

1718
01:42:03,060 --> 01:42:06,330
administration's covert drone
wars, despite pledges in recent

1719
01:42:06,330 --> 01:42:09,180
months for reforms, including
greater transparency.

1720
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:12,270
Of course, one of the reasons we
want to keep secrets in this

1721
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,990
country is because the I think
these are war crimes, you can

1722
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:16,170
say

1723
01:42:16,650 --> 01:42:19,170
it's okay, you can say
corporation or company, it's the

1724
01:42:19,170 --> 01:42:20,520
same thing. It's registered.

1725
01:42:21,330 --> 01:42:27,480
And the we've had other clips
that indicate, you know, if

1726
01:42:27,480 --> 01:42:29,790
you're in the CIA, and you're
driving the drone around, and

1727
01:42:29,790 --> 01:42:33,690
you're killing people, you're
not protected by the same laws

1728
01:42:33,690 --> 01:42:37,200
and protect the military. So
you're subject to murder. Yeah.

1729
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:42,360
Charges. Yes. And I would be
very I've, I think they should

1730
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:43,320
get out of that game.

1731
01:42:44,220 --> 01:42:47,250
Out of the murdering game. I've
been asking about this a long

1732
01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,840
time, the murder. The murdering
gets a good idea, John, the

1733
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:56,910
murdering game. Now before we
thank our relatively short list

1734
01:42:56,910 --> 01:43:01,440
today of producers and
supporters, the program, we have

1735
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:05,670
been kind of waiting for this to
happen. And it came through now

1736
01:43:05,670 --> 01:43:09,630
we've been looking at the media
shield law, which everyone seems

1737
01:43:09,630 --> 01:43:14,610
to be on board with, including
the guys from freedom of the

1738
01:43:14,610 --> 01:43:18,660
press, foundation.org, calm
slash whatever.

1739
01:43:18,810 --> 01:43:21,450
We looked at their paperwork,
right. Yeah.

1740
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:26,670
And, you know, it's who was a
Glenn Greenwald is any jar Dan,

1741
01:43:27,810 --> 01:43:34,260
the Ellsberg, but also Laura
Poitras? And who's that other

1742
01:43:34,260 --> 01:43:38,790
guy? Your buddy? Yeah, my buddy.
All my buddies are there. So

1743
01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:44,220
yeah, and, of course, the EFF
guy. What's his name? Barlow,

1744
01:43:44,250 --> 01:43:51,090
Barlow. So on the books is, and
I believe we've read this. If

1745
01:43:51,090 --> 01:43:57,630
not, I put a copy in the show
notes. shownotes. Just in case.

1746
01:43:58,260 --> 01:44:02,880
Let me just bring it up. Here it
is. Where's it I put it under

1747
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:11,010
Ministry of Truth when we go? is
Senate Bill 987. And I'll just

1748
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,520
give you the title of it, just
so you know, media shield law.

1749
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,670
And of course, we know that this
is fundamentally

1750
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:22,560
unconstitutional, because the
First Amendment says, Congress

1751
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:27,060
shall make no law regarding the
freedom of the press or freedom

1752
01:44:27,090 --> 01:44:33,900
of speech, so having a law is
unconstitutional. So this s 987,

1753
01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:40,440
which was drafted by Chuck
Schumer and Graham they're poor

1754
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:45,600
Lindsey, Lindsey and Chuck. They
introduced it in May and it is a

1755
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:49,770
bill to maintain the free flow
of information to the public by

1756
01:44:49,770 --> 01:44:52,710
providing conditions for the
Federally compelled disclosure

1757
01:44:52,710 --> 01:44:55,710
of information by certain
persons connected with the news

1758
01:44:55,710 --> 01:45:01,920
media. This Act may be cited as
the enemy to the Go, the free

1759
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:08,970
flow of information act of 2013.
How Orwellian does that sound?

1760
01:45:09,869 --> 01:45:13,409
It's all Orwellian. These two
creeps put together a horrible

1761
01:45:13,409 --> 01:45:15,869
piece of legislation that
everyone thinks is great.

1762
01:45:16,049 --> 01:45:19,529
And so in this world, the worst
part is the amendments that have

1763
01:45:19,529 --> 01:45:21,899
now been put in, but in the
original legislation,

1764
01:45:22,229 --> 01:45:26,579
essentially. So we're not going
to spy on you, we're going to

1765
01:45:26,579 --> 01:45:29,969
let you go, or no, wait a
minute, we're not going to tell

1766
01:45:29,969 --> 01:45:35,879
you we're spying on you. Unless,
whatever we think you're doing.

1767
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:41,999
My might know, we might need to
know about it to reasonably

1768
01:45:41,999 --> 01:45:45,629
necessary stop, prevent or
mitigate a specific case of

1769
01:45:45,899 --> 01:45:50,579
death, kidnapping, substantial
bodily harm, or conduct that

1770
01:45:50,579 --> 01:45:54,089
constitutes a criminal offense
and a specific offense against

1771
01:45:54,089 --> 01:45:58,439
the minor or if it's about
national security. So pretty

1772
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,559
much we're just going to
continue to spy on you. And

1773
01:46:01,559 --> 01:46:05,219
we're not going to tell you and
we're going to force you to give

1774
01:46:05,219 --> 01:46:09,959
us your your sources, etc. will
throw you in jail. Now all of

1775
01:46:09,959 --> 01:46:14,699
this legislation is already
crappy. But then we have you

1776
01:46:14,699 --> 01:46:17,939
know, this is now going through
committee. And now we have a

1777
01:46:17,939 --> 01:46:20,339
year buddy out there in
California. Yay, the People's

1778
01:46:20,339 --> 01:46:24,599
Republic of Feinstein. And
Feinstein has added an amendment

1779
01:46:24,599 --> 01:46:27,809
John, and this. Did you have a
meeting with her by any chance?

1780
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:31,770
No, she wouldn't have taken a
meeting with me. As she added

1781
01:46:31,770 --> 01:46:38,190
a couple of things find season
that she did. Her amendment now

1782
01:46:38,220 --> 01:46:44,910
provides three definitions of
what a journalist is. I'll open

1783
01:46:44,910 --> 01:46:51,120
up the Red Book and cross this
one off. Okay. So in order to be

1784
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:55,170
protected under the media shield
law, which by definition is

1785
01:46:55,170 --> 01:46:59,490
unconstitutional. And this is
coming from a disc jockey Hello,

1786
01:46:59,550 --> 01:47:05,580
I'm a DJ. You can only be
protected by the media shield

1787
01:47:05,790 --> 01:47:10,950
for the free flow of information
if you are working as a salaried

1788
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:15,390
employee, independent contractor
or agent of an entity that

1789
01:47:15,390 --> 01:47:19,470
disseminates news or
information, which covers the

1790
01:47:19,470 --> 01:47:23,010
CIA, by the way. I love how they
threw that in there.

1791
01:47:23,790 --> 01:47:26,280
You know, there's a little
gotcha in there too. That's even

1792
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,120
more interesting. What's that
word? salaried. salaried? Yeah,

1793
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:34,050
most people are contractors,
what they say whatever they say.

1794
01:47:34,860 --> 01:47:36,630
Nobody except the editors.

1795
01:47:38,010 --> 01:47:40,950
You didn't hear me it said
salaried employee, independent

1796
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:47,910
contractor. Okay, or agent of an
entity that disseminates news or

1797
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:52,230
information. This is your your,
your your podcast license coming

1798
01:47:52,230 --> 01:47:59,340
up. Okay, meaning the prior
definition. Okay, you have to in

1799
01:47:59,340 --> 01:48:04,590
order to qualify as a
journalist, John, you have to

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01:48:04,620 --> 01:48:08,220
have yet to meet the prior
definition for any continuous

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01:48:08,220 --> 01:48:12,090
three month period within the
two years prior to the relevant

1802
01:48:12,090 --> 01:48:17,370
date. By having substantially
contributed as an author,

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01:48:17,370 --> 01:48:21,150
editor, photographer or producer
to a standstill is a word. Yeah.

1804
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:24,840
significant number of articles,
stories, programs, it

1805
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:25,770
gets a word Yeah.

1806
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:28,770
But yes, it's a word. What do
you what are you saying?

1807
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:33,480
Well, what if you just want if
you wrote one long piece? Well,

1808
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:35,940
that would have been one short
piece that was just dynamite. I

1809
01:48:35,940 --> 01:48:39,390
won a Pulitzer but you but
that's not enough. That's no,

1810
01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:43,230
that's not significant
journalism, programs or

1811
01:48:43,230 --> 01:48:47,790
publications by an entity within
two years prior to the relevant

1812
01:48:47,790 --> 01:48:50,850
date, or if you're working as a
student journalist,

1813
01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:54,480
participating in a journalistic
publication at an institution of

1814
01:48:54,480 --> 01:49:00,000
higher education. This is a

1815
01:49:00,090 --> 01:49:03,540
student journalist and can be
covered by this bullcrap law,

1816
01:49:03,660 --> 01:49:08,250
which is useless anyway. But you
can't be a blogger. Correct.

1817
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:14,400
You're not a blogger. You can be
a blogger, no matter what their

1818
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,110
credentials is not a journalist.

1819
01:49:16,140 --> 01:49:18,630
You can be a blogger but you
won't be a journalist and

1820
01:49:18,630 --> 01:49:22,440
therefore you will not be
protected by the shield. Because

1821
01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:24,480
you shield doesn't protect you
and you don't have the cloak.

1822
01:49:24,510 --> 01:49:27,330
You don't have the cloak around
you Feinstein's cloak of

1823
01:49:27,330 --> 01:49:33,030
protection, so you can have free
flow of information. Gubbels is

1824
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:33,720
smiling.

1825
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,060
She is such a douche and an
idiot. I could tell the story

1826
01:49:39,060 --> 01:49:39,900
again, but I won't

1827
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:44,610
let me ask you a question. With
all of this, with with with this

1828
01:49:44,610 --> 01:49:49,470
going on. But more importantly,
what's going on with with the

1829
01:49:49,470 --> 01:49:54,810
revelations about spying etc.
Where is the Electronic Frontier

1830
01:49:54,810 --> 01:49:59,850
Foundation and all of this?
Where are they? Are they out

1831
01:49:59,850 --> 01:50:02,280
there? are yelling, are they at
press conferences? Are they

1832
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:05,070
suing the government? Are they
really doing their job? Well,

1833
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,440
let me ask you do who do they
really work for?

1834
01:50:09,450 --> 01:50:10,380
I have no idea.

1835
01:50:10,620 --> 01:50:12,840
Well, let me help you to answer
this because I pulled them to

1836
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,060
write a column about this. By
the way, well, let me give you

1837
01:50:15,060 --> 01:50:16,800
some information, you can go to
the show notes.

1838
01:50:17,190 --> 01:50:19,350
No matter how many columns I
write, even though I can write a

1839
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:22,140
column a date will never be
significant. It's never

1840
01:50:22,140 --> 01:50:24,510
significant or substantive. It's
not enough because there's only

1841
01:50:24,510 --> 01:50:26,340
one little percentage, not

1842
01:50:26,340 --> 01:50:33,660
significant. So I pulled their
form 990 of the EFF. Because I

1843
01:50:33,660 --> 01:50:36,390
wanted to know now of course,
there are 5013 C corporations,

1844
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:43,320
so they don't have to list their
donors, which is always fun. And

1845
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:47,490
I got the list here to how much
money do you think they raise?

1846
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:56,250
In 2011? More than we did? Yeah.
Just have a guess. $10 million.

1847
01:50:56,850 --> 01:51:02,760
Cool. Now? Not quite seven,
almost eight $7,910,000. Okay,

1848
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:07,920
now you can contribute to the
EFF by donating money. How much

1849
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,600
do you think they made on that?

1850
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,940
From donations? Yeah. Well, so
they use a different number. Is

1851
01:51:14,940 --> 01:51:18,120
it a subset of the first number?
Yeah, so there's two numbers.

1852
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:23,190
So the three numbers, the $8
million 7.9 Is their overall

1853
01:51:23,310 --> 01:51:27,540
2011, which by the way, is
triple from three years ago?

1854
01:51:27,870 --> 01:51:30,570
That is that's their their
overall revenue?

1855
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,050
And then, so this number you're
asking me for is a subset of

1856
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:34,740
that number?

1857
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,800
Correct. So we have, so I'm
going to break it down into two

1858
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:41,310
separate numbers. One will be
the because this, this is how

1859
01:51:41,310 --> 01:51:44,610
they split it up the amount of
money they received from

1860
01:51:44,610 --> 01:51:49,170
members. So when you go on the
website and say, hey, I want to

1861
01:51:49,170 --> 01:51:51,540
donate to you, because I think
you're doing a great job, you

1862
01:51:51,540 --> 01:51:56,880
become a member. And then they
have grants and gifts, which is

1863
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:03,360
from foundations, and
corporations, but not disclosed

1864
01:52:03,390 --> 01:52:05,940
on their 990. Because they don't
have to by law. So that's okay.

1865
01:52:05,940 --> 01:52:08,970
They don't have to do it. So
what do you think the breakdown

1866
01:52:08,970 --> 01:52:09,870
is of that?

1867
01:52:09,900 --> 01:52:13,560
Well, because you are asking,
I'm assuming that the the the

1868
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,190
number of personal contributions
is less than a million. Now it's

1869
01:52:17,190 --> 01:52:20,310
a little over a million, just
just a tad around a million,

1870
01:52:20,340 --> 01:52:24,090
it's just a tad over a million.
And all the rest is gifts and

1871
01:52:24,090 --> 01:52:28,860
grants. And they do not well,
they have their report from you

1872
01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:33,240
know, through 2010, when their
revenues were about less than

1873
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:38,100
half of what they are now. And
in that case, they're saying,

1874
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:42,900
Well, you know, here's a couple
of couple of foundations, etc.

1875
01:52:45,150 --> 01:52:49,410
Let me see what they say.
corporate contributions. 2010

1876
01:52:49,410 --> 01:52:54,060
was less than half a million.
But so now it's, you know, it's

1877
01:52:54,060 --> 01:52:56,430
in the millions of dollars. And
the question is, who are they

1878
01:52:56,430 --> 01:53:00,060
working for? Do they work for
Apple? Do they work for Google?

1879
01:53:01,110 --> 01:53:04,770
You know, do they work for the
the minority of people who

1880
01:53:04,770 --> 01:53:09,960
donate it to their cause? This
isn't asked John guessing.

1881
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:14,100
I'm guessing just so I don't
have any idea. But I'm guessing

1882
01:53:14,130 --> 01:53:17,820
I'll bet you that if you dug
into and found the big donors, I

1883
01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:20,040
bet you're Google's at the top
of the list. I

1884
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,050
think you're right. And I think
they should disclose that. By

1885
01:53:22,050 --> 01:53:25,170
the way. I'd like to know who
they don't know. They're not

1886
01:53:25,170 --> 01:53:25,740
really.

1887
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:28,080
They should. Why wouldn't they?

1888
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:30,450
Because I

1889
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,480
know. I mean, they know I don't
think anyone's ever asked them.

1890
01:53:33,480 --> 01:53:35,670
But if they if you ask them. I'd
like to hear what their reasons

1891
01:53:35,670 --> 01:53:39,240
for not doing it. Here, let me
give it to you. Yes. Me. I'm

1892
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,630
Yes. We're here at they pray to
Mr. Curry. You have a question?

1893
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:48,390
Yes. I'd like to know. Who do
you what corporations? It seems.

1894
01:53:48,420 --> 01:53:51,480
Is Google maybe giving you a lot
of money? Oh,

1895
01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:56,010
we do we have a policy of not
disclosing the corporations

1896
01:53:56,010 --> 01:53:58,380
because they've asked us not to
and why

1897
01:53:58,380 --> 01:54:01,530
is that? Why have they asked you
not to? They are

1898
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:06,000
private. They're people who do
not they respect your privacy

1899
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,050
and we respect your privacy.

1900
01:54:10,110 --> 01:54:15,360
Okay. Wow. Thanks. Hey, thanks
for your press conference. That

1901
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:19,950
was great. Can I now get out and
I have my Google Glass now in my

1902
01:54:19,950 --> 01:54:20,760
goodie bag

1903
01:54:25,830 --> 01:54:28,650
all right. I here's I got a
little thing for and then we

1904
01:54:28,650 --> 01:54:32,580
should thank our this lava bit
thing.

1905
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:34,440
You wouldn't love it.

1906
01:54:34,469 --> 01:54:38,369
Yeah, no, I'm not I don't like
this because, you know, this,

1907
01:54:38,369 --> 01:54:40,859
these this these things are
happening and whenever Glenn

1908
01:54:40,859 --> 01:54:44,579
Greenwald is around, and by the
way, I'm not anti Glenn

1909
01:54:44,579 --> 01:54:48,299
Greenwald specifically but I
think that he's part of a cabal

1910
01:54:48,299 --> 01:54:52,679
that is trying to make certainly
the Obama administration look

1911
01:54:52,679 --> 01:54:56,339
really, really bad. And but I
don't think he's doing it really

1912
01:54:56,339 --> 01:54:59,729
in a journalistic fashion. He's
just saying stuff. You know,

1913
01:54:59,819 --> 01:55:03,629
like I spoke to Edward Snowden
and he said this Snowden told me

1914
01:55:03,629 --> 01:55:06,629
this, Mr. Snowden said that, you
know, there's it's like, you

1915
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:08,729
know, why doesn't Snowden like

1916
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,510
it's like a guy didn't use it
his wife, my wife. Yeah, go out.

1917
01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:15,150
Exactly. Yeah, you know what we
can't you don't want to go out.

1918
01:55:15,150 --> 01:55:16,170
So you blame it on your WHY

1919
01:55:16,170 --> 01:55:18,900
CAN'T Snowden like, you know,
write a blog or something, you

1920
01:55:18,900 --> 01:55:22,470
know, or what, you know,
whatever. Just, why is it always

1921
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:24,150
Glenn? Apparently, the

1922
01:55:24,150 --> 01:55:27,060
Russians told him to shut up.
Well, then,

1923
01:55:27,090 --> 01:55:30,870
well, that that makes me even
more suspicious. makes me even

1924
01:55:30,870 --> 01:55:35,340
more suspicious. Right. Okay. So
so you know, and the main reason

1925
01:55:35,340 --> 01:55:38,100
is when and there was actually a
little Twitter thing going on

1926
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:42,210
that I got sucked into, and I
got out of where some, you know,

1927
01:55:43,170 --> 01:55:47,220
it was it was about the lie that
the Bolivian president's plane

1928
01:55:47,220 --> 01:55:51,540
was forced down, we have the,
the audio they asked to land

1929
01:55:51,540 --> 01:55:55,800
with a bogus reason that their
fuel indicator was off. And then

1930
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:58,080
this, like this person on
Twitter is like, Well, then why

1931
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:02,580
did France and why did Spain
apologize? And first of all, is

1932
01:56:02,580 --> 01:56:05,700
like the would like the country
put on its Facebook. We

1933
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:09,630
apologize now. It's like some
Ambassador somewhere said, but

1934
01:56:09,630 --> 01:56:12,510
we really apologize that
something happened. But they all

1935
01:56:12,510 --> 01:56:15,900
say this in the reports from
Reuters and AP. They all

1936
01:56:15,900 --> 01:56:21,900
specifically say but they deny
that they refused. entrance into

1937
01:56:21,900 --> 01:56:22,830
the airspace.

1938
01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:26,040
Yeah, except for Portugal. Well,
I haven't read Portugal,

1939
01:56:26,130 --> 01:56:31,350
Portugal says that they somebody
told them apparently us that

1940
01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:34,500
Snowden would be on board and it
would have caused some sort of

1941
01:56:34,530 --> 01:56:35,400
mess. I haven't

1942
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:36,780
seen that one. I haven't seen
that

1943
01:56:36,780 --> 01:56:40,530
yet. But they apologized. Yeah,
ya know, in general, in general,

1944
01:56:40,740 --> 01:56:44,040
that, you know, this was a bowl
crap thing, you know, the plane

1945
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:45,870
was not forced

1946
01:56:45,870 --> 01:56:50,400
down. Right. Okay, so, but these
things get into the, into the

1947
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:54,390
lexicon, and they get into the
alternative. Because no one

1948
01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:57,120
trust the mainstream media now,
even though that's where most of

1949
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:01,770
this comes from. And then people
that's true, it's that gangrene

1950
01:57:01,770 --> 01:57:05,850
well said so. So the whole idea
of this lava abyss now we got

1951
01:57:05,850 --> 01:57:11,820
this lava bit which shut down?
And the general consensus is it

1952
01:57:11,820 --> 01:57:16,680
shut down because Edward Snowden
was using it as email and they

1953
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,980
got a national security letter
to turn over the goods. That is

1954
01:57:20,010 --> 01:57:22,980
if you ask anyone on if you go
on Twitter right now and say

1955
01:57:22,980 --> 01:57:27,000
why? That's what they'll tell
you. Yep. I think there's a

1956
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:31,740
different thing going on here.
And but the guy was on Democracy

1957
01:57:31,740 --> 01:57:35,880
Now with his lawyer. And this is
this two minutes little long and

1958
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,300
the clip here. But at a certain
point, the question is actually

1959
01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:44,100
asked NSA leaker Edward Snowden
recently described your decision

1960
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:48,330
to shut down love of it as
quote, inspiring. Now, I want to

1961
01:57:48,330 --> 01:57:53,370
say he did not say this. As far
as I know, he apparently told

1962
01:57:53,370 --> 01:57:57,180
Glenn Greenwald this, but just
want to make sure that we're on

1963
01:57:57,180 --> 01:58:00,060
the level with what's who's
saying what here or how things

1964
01:58:00,060 --> 01:58:04,650
are coming into play. For a
journalist who I agree lives in

1965
01:58:04,650 --> 01:58:05,880
Brazil, he told

1966
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,870
the Guardians Glenn Greenwald,
quote, America cannot succeed as

1967
01:58:09,870 --> 01:58:13,530
a country where individuals like
Mr. Leveson have to relocate

1968
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:16,950
their businesses abroad to be
successful. And there was never

1969
01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:20,640
any mention of relocating his
business abroad. So I don't

1970
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:24,960
understand why he would say
this. I'm very skeptical about

1971
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:28,530
the nature of this quote,
employees and leaders at Google,

1972
01:58:28,530 --> 01:58:31,650
Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo,
Apple and the rest of our

1973
01:58:31,650 --> 01:58:35,280
internet Titans must ask
themselves why they aren't

1974
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:38,730
fighting for our interest the
same way small businesses are.

1975
01:58:38,940 --> 01:58:41,910
The defense they have offered to
this point is that they were

1976
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:45,660
compelled by laws they do not
agree with, but one day of

1977
01:58:45,660 --> 01:58:48,900
downtime for the Coalition of
their services could achieve

1978
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:53,670
what 100 Lovitz could not.
Snowden went on to say, quote,

1979
01:58:53,700 --> 01:58:57,720
when Congress returns to session
in September, let us take note

1980
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:01,020
of whether the internet industry
statements and lobbyists which

1981
01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:04,410
were invisible in the lead up to
the Conyers Amash vote emerge on

1982
01:59:04,410 --> 01:59:08,310
the side of the free internet or
the NSA and its intelligence

1983
01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:11,460
committees and Congress. You
know, the Snowden guy's a lot of

1984
01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:13,500
time on his hands to formulate
this.

1985
01:59:14,010 --> 01:59:17,160
There's a couple of things here
one, if it's a sink, if it's a

1986
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:22,110
quote from a secondhand source,
and it's and it wasn't derived

1987
01:59:22,110 --> 01:59:24,510
from a press conference or
someplace where other people

1988
01:59:24,510 --> 01:59:28,740
have heard the quote, it's not a
quote, you have to say, As

1989
01:59:28,740 --> 01:59:29,970
quoted to

1990
01:59:30,210 --> 01:59:34,140
that's that's what she said as
she said, she said, she said,

1991
01:59:34,470 --> 01:59:37,230
Keep told Glenn Greenwald.
That's what she said

1992
01:59:37,230 --> 01:59:39,120
the beginning but then these
other quotes, I don't know,

1993
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,040
okay, I'll let her slide on it.

1994
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:44,370
But not very far. Because I feel
there's no questioning about

1995
01:59:44,370 --> 01:59:48,810
this. This guy, Hey, she the guy
lives in Brazil works for a

1996
01:59:48,810 --> 01:59:52,080
British newspaper. Are we insane
to believe everything that comes

1997
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:55,230
out? And by the way? I think
it's funny because I like the

1998
01:59:55,230 --> 01:59:58,500
fact that this is anti Google,
anti big Silicon Valley

1999
01:59:58,500 --> 02:00:01,170
companies. But I think the We
have to look a little bit

2000
02:00:01,170 --> 02:00:02,670
further than just some dude.

2001
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:05,340
whistle blowing. In fact, I
think most of the public gets a

2002
02:00:05,340 --> 02:00:09,180
kick out of this. Yes. But but
but it doesn't mean it's

2003
02:00:09,180 --> 02:00:14,010
accurate, true or or even
something, or even positive in

2004
02:00:14,010 --> 02:00:15,780
some bigger sense and may not be

2005
02:00:15,810 --> 02:00:18,960
and and I will take the other
side for a moment and say we

2006
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:22,980
should be wary of other
countries and journalists from

2007
02:00:22,980 --> 02:00:27,960
other countries attacking us.
Just you know, you said we have

2008
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:33,630
to be aware of what's going on
now. Let's continue. le dar. You

2009
02:00:33,630 --> 02:00:37,530
are the service provider for
Edward Snowden. Now this says

2010
02:00:37,530 --> 02:00:42,480
she's asking a rhetorical
question almost. Because this is

2011
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:47,100
the this is the mean. I believe
that's correct. Oh, okay. He

2012
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:50,700
doesn't even say I didn't know
him personally. Oh, it seems

2013
02:00:50,700 --> 02:00:55,350
like the report was he was just
tucked into it. Let's listen to

2014
02:00:55,350 --> 02:00:57,840
what he says. Listen to what he
says. You talk to Albert a

2015
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:58,380
little bit, and

2016
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:03,150
that's okay. I do it all the
time this provider for Edward

2017
02:01:03,150 --> 02:01:03,750
Snowden.

2018
02:01:05,310 --> 02:01:08,100
I believe that's correct.
Obviously, I didn't know him

2019
02:01:08,100 --> 02:01:12,480
personally. But it's been widely
reported. And there was an email

2020
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,490
account bearing his name on my
system.

2021
02:01:14,910 --> 02:01:16,260
Okay. Is he dead?

2022
02:01:18,750 --> 02:01:20,250
I don't think so. I didn't know

2023
02:01:20,250 --> 02:01:25,110
him personally. Yeah. The way it
is the way he's answering the

2024
02:01:25,110 --> 02:01:27,540
question. I don't know him
personally, because I didn't

2025
02:01:27,540 --> 02:01:31,950
know him personally when this
bruise was set up has been made

2026
02:01:31,950 --> 02:01:33,300
well aware of recently.

2027
02:01:34,650 --> 02:01:37,560
Okay, so read in is another way
of putting down right

2028
02:01:37,590 --> 02:01:41,850
now. Now listen to the questions
here. Glenn Greenwald also

2029
02:01:41,850 --> 02:01:45,090
wrote what is particularly
creepy about the lava bit self

2030
02:01:45,090 --> 02:01:48,300
shutdown is that the company's
gagged by law, even from

2031
02:01:48,300 --> 02:01:51,270
discussing the legal challenges,
it's mounted and the court

2032
02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:55,020
proceeding its engage. In other
words, the American owner of the

2033
02:01:55,020 --> 02:01:57,510
company believes his
constitutional rights and those

2034
02:01:57,510 --> 02:01:59,910
of his customers are being
violated by the US government,

2035
02:01:59,910 --> 02:02:02,820
but he's not allowed to talk
about it. Greenwald goes on to

2036
02:02:02,820 --> 02:02:05,970
write quote, justice is true for
people who receive national

2037
02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:08,760
security letters under the
Patriot Act. Lavabit has been

2038
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:11,670
told they would face serious
criminal sanctions if they

2039
02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:14,850
publicly discussed what is being
done to their company.

2040
02:02:15,509 --> 02:02:20,039
Okay, so now she's gone into a
gray area where she is I don't

2041
02:02:20,039 --> 02:02:23,309
even know if she's quoting
Snowden, written by Greenwald or

2042
02:02:23,309 --> 02:02:27,869
just Greenwald, himself talking.
So she she sets this whole thing

2043
02:02:27,869 --> 02:02:30,899
up. It's all about what the
Guardian newspaper published

2044
02:02:30,899 --> 02:02:37,109
about love a bit. What is the
obvious question? I don't know.

2045
02:02:37,109 --> 02:02:41,279
What is the obvious question is
Is this true? Die? Yeah,

2046
02:02:41,310 --> 02:02:43,920
that's the obvious question is
obvious. Yeah. What

2047
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:45,270
is she? What does she ask?

2048
02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:52,140
Dr. Levinson? Why did you start
off with it? What is that all

2049
02:02:52,140 --> 02:02:52,740
about?

2050
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:57,540
The whole thing that she sets
his whole thing up, and then why

2051
02:02:57,540 --> 02:03:00,480
did you start? Why did you start
Lavabit

2052
02:03:00,990 --> 02:03:04,290
that I've given you tip of the
day for that,

2053
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,950
not one accept it. I won't
accept it. It's good. It's not

2054
02:03:07,950 --> 02:03:11,280
good enough. But here's, here's
the thing you need to know. So

2055
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:17,970
this all happens in July. And so
the guy clearly has no idea if

2056
02:03:17,970 --> 02:03:20,880
this is because of Snowden, but
he's got all kinds of hassle.

2057
02:03:21,180 --> 02:03:27,000
And if you actually dig into it,
ah, gee, man, it turns out that

2058
02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:35,070
there's something else going on
in on June 10. of 2013. A search

2059
02:03:35,070 --> 02:03:39,780
warrant was executed against
Lavabit user Joey 006 ad love of

2060
02:03:39,780 --> 02:03:45,390
it.com for alleged possession of
child pornography. I'm thinking

2061
02:03:45,390 --> 02:03:48,900
this this guy, you know, he had
to shut down because the whole

2062
02:03:48,900 --> 02:03:52,830
thing was rife with pedo bear
crap. Yeah. Could be and he had

2063
02:03:52,830 --> 02:03:56,970
to shut it down. And it's a
handy excuse to say, Oh, well,

2064
02:03:56,970 --> 02:03:58,200
you know, it's because he never

2065
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,960
says for one minute that he note
knew that Snowden was on this

2066
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:05,760
thing. Greenwald is the one who
said it. And made the just

2067
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:07,980
bullcrap Connect. Yeah, the
whole thing. This is a bogus

2068
02:04:08,070 --> 02:04:12,180
Story Complete. Nonsense that no
one's reporting on. You're

2069
02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:14,280
probably right. It makes sense.
They've been going after pedo

2070
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,910
Barisan to an extreme. Yeah. And
so they went in there with some

2071
02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:20,730
not may have not even been a
national security letter. I

2072
02:04:20,730 --> 02:04:24,240
mentioned that in some tweet,
Twitter and, and Declan Macola

2073
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,810
from CNET who covers all this
stuff. He says, now as bullcrap,

2074
02:04:27,810 --> 02:04:30,150
it could be a number of things
and he sends me this huge

2075
02:04:30,150 --> 02:04:34,230
document of all these government
doc these all these government

2076
02:04:34,230 --> 02:04:36,720
subpoenas and other things that
all have gag orders in them,

2077
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,390
it's like, right could be
anything that they gave the guy

2078
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:44,070
right and it could have been a
warrant or information regarding

2079
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:48,030
pedophilia for all we know. So
they don't know so this guy has

2080
02:04:48,030 --> 02:04:48,750
ever said right

2081
02:04:49,019 --> 02:04:54,629
now. So this guy, he's clearly
being used for this. Clearly. He

2082
02:04:54,629 --> 02:04:58,349
seems like a nice guy, you know,
he started something and you

2083
02:04:58,349 --> 02:05:01,409
know 2004 With a couple Love
buddies and it grew into this

2084
02:05:01,409 --> 02:05:03,179
now and they're like, uh, yeah,
it's it's cool. It's like a

2085
02:05:03,179 --> 02:05:05,879
little service. I'm all for it,
you know, it's all good. And it

2086
02:05:05,879 --> 02:05:09,059
became a real hassle. He's like,
Oh man, I gotta shut this down.

2087
02:05:09,359 --> 02:05:13,289
But he's being misused. And this
is where I come back to. I can I

2088
02:05:13,289 --> 02:05:18,269
can feel it John, I can feel
that there are forces really

2089
02:05:18,269 --> 02:05:24,839
really working real hard and
Glenn Greenwald is, is probably

2090
02:05:24,959 --> 02:05:31,229
willingly a part of this. And
it's not it's just not news

2091
02:05:31,229 --> 02:05:35,999
reporting anymore. It's a it's a
full on attack. And I'm not sad

2092
02:05:35,999 --> 02:05:37,589
because it's it's fun.

2093
02:05:39,090 --> 02:05:40,650
Great fun for us especially

2094
02:05:40,650 --> 02:05:43,290
but I do want to point out that
there's that something is going

2095
02:05:43,290 --> 02:05:44,340
on here. This is no

2096
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:47,490
I'm not gonna argue that this is
a good possibility. Did you see

2097
02:05:47,490 --> 02:05:51,000
that New York Times piece and
about Laurel fortress is hanging

2098
02:05:51,090 --> 02:05:53,790
on to the piece was bad. Yeah,
because it was just it was

2099
02:05:53,790 --> 02:05:56,580
appalling. You know, it was just
terrible. And but it didn't, you

2100
02:05:56,580 --> 02:05:59,640
didn't you could glean some cool
stuff out of it. Like the fact

2101
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:03,300
that Poitras is in Brazil,
hanging out in her desk and

2102
02:06:03,450 --> 02:06:07,530
looking like the legacy is,
yeah, like a spook and that

2103
02:06:07,530 --> 02:06:12,030
photo is totally a spook photo,
like his handler, and then when

2104
02:06:12,030 --> 02:06:14,850
you start deconstructing
everything that's in that story,

2105
02:06:14,850 --> 02:06:17,130
which is everyone can go read in
the New York Times you started

2106
02:06:17,130 --> 02:06:20,910
taking pieces out of it, because
there's information in there.

2107
02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:23,190
This is a whole thing sounds
phony.

2108
02:06:23,220 --> 02:06:26,250
Well, let me let me did I just
follow that for a little bit,

2109
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:29,940
you know, and there's a great
Reddit thread about Poitras

2110
02:06:29,940 --> 02:06:33,090
showing up she was embedded with
some troops and then she

2111
02:06:33,090 --> 02:06:35,760
disappeared off the radar and
then all sudden you know this

2112
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:39,270
this unit got ambushed and but
she was there with the camera. I

2113
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:43,800
mean, it's very very sketchy
stuff but I was looking at her

2114
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:49,530
film production unit and it
lists a number of donors to her

2115
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:56,070
to her her documentary company
and one of them is the mental

2116
02:06:56,070 --> 02:07:00,840
foundation and you know me it's
like I do what do we what does

2117
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:01,440
that work called

2118
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,840
again? Falling into a rabbit
hole yes

2119
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:11,850
that's it I was I fell in love
and so I look up the mental

2120
02:07:11,850 --> 02:07:16,740
Foundation which is essentially
a just a front for a rich

2121
02:07:16,740 --> 02:07:21,720
family's money. It even says you
know, like we know this is the

2122
02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:25,470
managing their assets, but it
seems it says specifically

2123
02:07:26,250 --> 02:07:31,110
please note the foundation is
not involved in any charitable

2124
02:07:31,110 --> 02:07:35,760
activities. Its primary purpose
is to support by contributions

2125
02:07:35,820 --> 02:07:46,560
other organizations exempt
others go to the top it is it's

2126
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:56,040
the Robert and Joyce mental
foundation m e n S H E L and C.

2127
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:01,470
So she she says that she
received a grant from them but

2128
02:08:01,500 --> 02:08:04,680
they say they don't give out
grants to directly to people

2129
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:08,040
they only do it through other
foundations and I can't find her

2130
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:14,400
as a nonprofit foundation. So it
stinks just stinks

2131
02:08:16,740 --> 02:08:24,090
well this takes us back to Okay
back to Egypt What about Israeli

2132
02:08:24,090 --> 02:08:24,960
intelligence?

2133
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:31,260
Well yeah yeah I'm I'm way down
with that. You know when you see

2134
02:08:31,290 --> 02:08:35,190
a Egyptian police and they have
gear that says police on it,

2135
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:40,890
which is not the Arabic word
where they get rice from you

2136
02:08:40,890 --> 02:08:44,130
know, the Who Who are these
Jabra Ionis you got to think

2137
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:48,870
that the money's coming Well, we
know a bit Hey, we send them a

2138
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:54,630
billion dollars a year I think
it totally could be Israeli

2139
02:08:54,630 --> 02:08:57,810
intelligence the Israelis could
be totally responsible for this

2140
02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:02,490
Yeah, they saw where things were
headed with this guy this

2141
02:09:02,490 --> 02:09:06,330
mercies of goes show wolf in
sheep's clothing you know

2142
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,940
helping them a little bit here
and there but as a long term

2143
02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:12,300
loser for the Israelis they're
always having to deal with these

2144
02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:17,010
Palestinians already decided to
screw it screw the place up.

2145
02:09:17,700 --> 02:09:21,000
They they're right next door,
they got better assets in place

2146
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:26,160
than we ever would you know, and
they go off the reservation all

2147
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:29,580
the time. There was a sense of
jets over Syria we did I'm

2148
02:09:29,970 --> 02:09:34,590
absolutely sure nobody in the
American Services approved of

2149
02:09:34,590 --> 02:09:37,860
not blowing up of a bunch of
stuff inside Totally agree.

2150
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,360
So anyway, so kind of bring this
all around. It's very

2151
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:48,060
interesting to watch. It's
clearly just be careful who you

2152
02:09:48,060 --> 02:09:51,150
champion, you know, be careful
who you're becoming before you

2153
02:09:51,150 --> 02:09:55,230
know it, they'll turn around and
they'll fuck you. Because it's

2154
02:09:55,230 --> 02:09:57,300
just not so cut and dried to me.

2155
02:09:59,670 --> 02:10:02,880
Yeah, Well this this isn't it
anyway, so that New York Times

2156
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,070
article I still think is worth
really looking at and

2157
02:10:05,070 --> 02:10:07,890
deconstructing and trying to
figure out what information you

2158
02:10:07,890 --> 02:10:10,980
can get out of it because it is
kind of a puff piece. But it's

2159
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:13,920
not a normal puff piece. It's a
we and as long

2160
02:10:13,950 --> 02:10:18,660
it's a positioning piece. Yeah,
yeah. It's and it's not that

2161
02:10:18,660 --> 02:10:22,860
different from the piece that
was written by Let me see who

2162
02:10:22,860 --> 02:10:26,640
wrote this. I didn't check on
that. Peter moss. See who is

2163
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,590
this guy Peter moss? Is he a
shill?

2164
02:10:29,370 --> 02:10:31,230
I looked at his I've reached

2165
02:10:31,230 --> 02:10:35,790
my limit of 10 complimentary
articles this month. Sorry,

2166
02:10:35,790 --> 02:10:38,580
can't read it. No. Oh, that goes
to show

2167
02:10:41,550 --> 02:10:42,450
subscription.

2168
02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:47,580
Not gonna get a subscription.
Screw those guys. Propaganda.

2169
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:50,280
Peter moss author and
journalist.

2170
02:10:50,310 --> 02:10:52,590
Let's see is it the same Peter
moss

2171
02:10:53,580 --> 02:10:56,280
he wrote crude world love thy
neighbor.

2172
02:10:56,700 --> 02:10:59,880
This is this is this the Peter
we know that Peter masa that was

2173
02:10:59,880 --> 02:11:02,550
a great writer that we're at
Serpico the valachi papers and

2174
02:11:02,550 --> 02:11:05,580
all this died. So he's dead. So
that's

2175
02:11:05,820 --> 02:11:09,510
that's not him. This is this is
the it's Peter moss.com Double A

2176
02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:14,100
double S. I am right I am a
writer publications I have

2177
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:16,950
written for include the New York
Times Magazine, New Yorker

2178
02:11:16,950 --> 02:11:24,990
foreign policy, and the New York
Review of Books. I wonder I

2179
02:11:24,990 --> 02:11:35,280
wonder what this guy's all
about. About a boot. A boot

2180
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:35,790
Peter mine

2181
02:11:35,790 --> 02:11:39,960
has the extra s on his name to
differentiate him from the

2182
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:40,320
Peter.

2183
02:11:40,830 --> 02:11:42,660
It's the extra s for savings.

2184
02:11:46,590 --> 02:11:53,880
For more P there'll be at least
10 people in the audience that

2185
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:54,150
will get

2186
02:11:54,750 --> 02:11:58,230
it really so he's been around.
He's he's he's been around. He's

2187
02:11:58,230 --> 02:12:01,680
done a lot of stuff he's
covered. He could be spooked by

2188
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:02,070
the way.

2189
02:12:04,290 --> 02:12:07,290
Yeah, no, it's always anyone can
be a spook.

2190
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:09,870
Well, listen, he was writing for
the New York Times International

2191
02:12:09,870 --> 02:12:13,350
Herald Tribune covered NATO and
the European Union 87 moved to

2192
02:12:13,350 --> 02:12:18,060
Seoul, South Korea, I could ask
Don about this guy. If I screw

2193
02:12:18,060 --> 02:12:21,540
it, I bet you thought he worked
for Don. I wrote primarily for

2194
02:12:21,540 --> 02:12:25,320
The Washington Post totally.
After three years in Asia, I

2195
02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:28,020
moved to Budapest to cover
Eastern Europe and the Balkans

2196
02:12:28,110 --> 02:12:29,760
is independently wealthy.

2197
02:12:31,350 --> 02:12:33,420
So you can move around like this

2198
02:12:33,450 --> 02:12:36,840
spend most of 92 and 93 covering
the war. And it's funny that the

2199
02:12:36,840 --> 02:12:37,530
giveaway for

2200
02:12:37,530 --> 02:12:41,520
spooks is going around, they're
moving around too much. They

2201
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:44,460
never put them in I mean, except
for a couple of these guys that

2202
02:12:44,460 --> 02:12:48,900
are not they're already outed as
spooks would. What's his name?

2203
02:12:49,140 --> 02:12:55,140
Woodward. Woodward is outed in
that in that bush book. And so

2204
02:12:55,140 --> 02:12:56,970
they're already out so they
don't move them around much.

2205
02:12:56,970 --> 02:13:01,230
Just put them in place and crank
out stuff here for us. And but

2206
02:13:01,230 --> 02:13:03,210
these other guys are always
there here. And there's always

2207
02:13:03,210 --> 02:13:05,310
these hotspots, you know, there.

2208
02:13:05,790 --> 02:13:09,300
So here's here's one of the
books he wrote. man hunt. Oh,

2209
02:13:09,300 --> 02:13:13,020
no, that's the other Peter moss.
Sorry, that's the wrong one.

2210
02:13:13,290 --> 02:13:17,760
That's the that's the the
original novelist yet. Is Peter.

2211
02:13:17,790 --> 02:13:21,390
I just I just Googled is Peter
Moss, a CIA agent? Sometimes you

2212
02:13:21,390 --> 02:13:26,400
can get lucky on that stuff. All
right. Well, we'll have to save

2213
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:30,780
this for Sunday. Oops, what did
I do wrong here? Hold on a

2214
02:13:30,780 --> 02:13:31,500
second. There we go.

2215
02:13:32,219 --> 02:13:35,489
I'm gonna show us a little by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

2216
02:13:35,489 --> 02:13:38,219
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2217
02:13:45,180 --> 02:13:49,500
this Mickey just texted me and
she says I'm going to be an hour

2218
02:13:49,500 --> 02:13:53,130
late. It's 130 bucks for the
battery. Can you believe that?

2219
02:13:53,580 --> 02:13:57,780
That's about right. car battery
just died for no reason.

2220
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,290
You're in a in Texas where the
temperature will just kill

2221
02:14:01,290 --> 02:14:02,070
stuff. Oh, really?

2222
02:14:02,070 --> 02:14:05,070
I hadn't thought about that.
Because she took me to spin

2223
02:14:05,070 --> 02:14:06,240
class yesterday.

2224
02:14:09,300 --> 02:14:15,240
Was that? You know, it just spin
out? I gotta get the back there

2225
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:16,140
and toggle the button.

2226
02:14:16,170 --> 02:14:20,010
Well, we had it. Yes. Yes. No,
well, no, no, it's kind of

2227
02:14:20,010 --> 02:14:21,630
here's what's cool. All right.
I'm going to tell you what's

2228
02:14:21,630 --> 02:14:25,800
cool. So we had a different get
this was a different guy. This

2229
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:29,370
was David. And David does kind
of like he's a little mellower.

2230
02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:33,960
And so I was like, okay, I can
keep up with him. But what's

2231
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:36,060
nice is after this, so it's
still you know, at a certain

2232
02:14:36,060 --> 02:14:38,580
point, I think I'm gonna die.
You know, like, I can't breathe

2233
02:14:38,580 --> 02:14:41,190
and then then you kind of get
into it since that's after 10

2234
02:14:41,190 --> 02:14:43,950
minutes. I can I can kind of
finish the whole thing. But

2235
02:14:43,950 --> 02:14:48,300
after it so you got to imagine
you're there's 50 mainly women,

2236
02:14:48,810 --> 02:14:52,830
and then you know, and the guy
he's literally like, come on 90

2237
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:56,310
more seconds. You know, you love
yourself. Today is the day that

2238
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:58,950
you go all the way you know, and
it's like this whole like kind

2239
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:59,700
of like

2240
02:14:59,730 --> 02:15:02,160
cool nobody's enough right down
gun I'm punching him.

2241
02:15:03,629 --> 02:15:06,569
No but and these women are like,
and they're doing stuff you

2242
02:15:06,569 --> 02:15:11,609
cannot so they're all like,
really tone and just tight and

2243
02:15:11,609 --> 02:15:14,399
then after they're all you know
there's such a euphoria they're

2244
02:15:14,399 --> 02:15:17,849
all like hugging and stuff it's
like a sweaty hugging. Yeah,

2245
02:15:17,849 --> 02:15:24,629
like hey, that was a great
session yeah hey girl How you

2246
02:15:24,629 --> 02:15:27,479
doing? In the Mickey's like look
at that girl. She's behind me to

2247
02:15:27,479 --> 02:15:30,419
do photo. It was like a model.
Like yeah, I'm gonna say I got

2248
02:15:30,449 --> 02:15:33,929
an idea for a photo shoot. I
said, Ah, yeah, so it's like

2249
02:15:33,929 --> 02:15:36,929
picking up chicks over there at
this place. It's good deal.

2250
02:15:36,959 --> 02:15:41,219
Should good do a good deal.
Meanwhile, I'm out 130 bucks

2251
02:15:41,219 --> 02:15:43,319
because the car wouldn't start
when we were in the garage.

2252
02:15:43,769 --> 02:15:48,749
Yeah, there you have it sucks.
Lon Baker want to thank lon here

2253
02:15:48,749 --> 02:15:53,249
in Emeryville was sent a check
in $189.59. Tonight I sent a

2254
02:15:53,249 --> 02:15:56,459
check to complete my knighthood
it was $100 for my lady I will

2255
02:15:56,459 --> 02:16:02,249
try to send pictures soon Adam
Hey. He wants to be sir Baker

2256
02:16:02,249 --> 02:16:04,799
we've got him he wants a little
karma First Lady Jennifer Keep

2257
02:16:04,799 --> 02:16:08,039
up the great work resist shows
been outstanding

2258
02:16:08,070 --> 02:16:10,950
and got karma you go little
karma

2259
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:17,460
Ollie in New South Wales of
155 10. High June and Gladis

2260
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:21,810
please accept my annual 5510
donation for my birthday on the

2261
02:16:21,810 --> 02:16:27,180
17th of August. Do we have that
on him on there? I think so. A

2262
02:16:27,180 --> 02:16:28,380
knighthood but we don't have
money.

2263
02:16:29,460 --> 02:16:31,980
We got we got him. We got him on
birthday. I got him on birthday.

2264
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:32,820
I believe

2265
02:16:32,819 --> 02:16:34,799
it takes me into the realm of no
agenda and I do it with your

2266
02:16:34,799 --> 02:16:37,679
permission like to claim the
title of Sir thirsty. Yeah, it's

2267
02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:42,449
in the book all good. antastic
Glen Riccio, 116 33 in

2268
02:16:42,449 --> 02:16:45,689
Charlottesville, Virginia, and
he's got a 16th birthday call

2269
02:16:45,689 --> 02:16:49,769
out to his daughter Leah that's
on the list. And Mr. Peabody

2270
02:16:49,889 --> 02:16:53,819
$111 lettuces in the town and
Louisiana.

2271
02:16:54,090 --> 02:16:58,620
Come on. Not Nahshon nice. Not
good. Not good. Tucker, Tucker,

2272
02:16:58,620 --> 02:17:02,010
Tucker. Dakka Dakka Dakka ptosis
what you just posted remember

2273
02:17:02,010 --> 02:17:04,680
that soccer coaches, you're
supposed to remember this?

2274
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:08,460
I know but I keep thinking of
NACA doshas is not not good. Not

2275
02:17:08,490 --> 02:17:09,360
not that something

2276
02:17:09,389 --> 02:17:10,679
anyway. It's near mobiel

2277
02:17:14,129 --> 02:17:18,809
no real name Mr. Peabody. Great
work late. Lee takes me 777

2278
02:17:18,809 --> 02:17:23,729
toward the knighthood. Stephen
Dalton $100 from Brandon

2279
02:17:23,729 --> 02:17:29,249
Mississippi Robert caselle 8888
the last 8888 contribution from

2280
02:17:29,249 --> 02:17:34,529
Dearborn Michigan with the Happy
Anniversary wish I am Eric M

2281
02:17:35,009 --> 02:17:38,789
8334. In Cincinnati, Ohio women
this

2282
02:17:38,790 --> 02:17:41,580
goes towards funding Adams
fetish of

2283
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,870
a gala Galilei my toll philia

2284
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:49,800
what is that government of
philia

2285
02:17:49,860 --> 02:17:57,000
look it up while we're
continuing on. Move on Sir

2286
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:03,360
Michael Kearns says Eric needs a
raise. Seriously, Eric feels

2287
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:04,140
that way. Yeah,

2288
02:18:04,139 --> 02:18:06,959
he's like looking at make sure
you're looking at that one.

2289
02:18:11,339 --> 02:18:17,729
Okay, Amalga Philia is a
paraphilia involving sexual

2290
02:18:17,729 --> 02:18:21,509
attraction to a statue doll
mannequin or other similar

2291
02:18:21,719 --> 02:18:27,479
figurative object. Where do you
get that from? Where was that?

2292
02:18:27,509 --> 02:18:29,969
Because we were in Italy. But
Did I say something about the

2293
02:18:30,749 --> 02:18:34,169
legs? You do? I don't know.
Maybe he has pictures. I should

2294
02:18:34,169 --> 02:18:36,029
see. I don't know. Maybe I
missed something.

2295
02:18:37,799 --> 02:18:44,069
Okay, curl. Okay, six 969 Craig
dash now in Brunswick, Victoria,

2296
02:18:44,069 --> 02:18:47,789
Australia. It's got some note
for you to read about the harp

2297
02:18:47,939 --> 02:18:51,899
vitriolic and revs be New South
Wales, we have to say about

2298
02:18:51,899 --> 02:18:58,349
that. 6969 that close that
again? Three. Fail. It's going

2299
02:18:58,349 --> 02:18:59,519
to fail on Sunday.

2300
02:19:00,690 --> 02:19:03,660
Oh, I don't mind me. I have a
thing that was the

2301
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:13,230
whole web. 60 bucks in Windsor
UK. Windsor is epic fail. We

2302
02:19:13,230 --> 02:19:16,470
have certain aid Wilson in
Charleston, South Carolina with

2303
02:19:16,470 --> 02:19:18,750
a birthday call out and so we
also have a birthday call out

2304
02:19:18,750 --> 02:19:23,160
for Paul Webb. He came up with
51 Double nickels on the dime,

2305
02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:27,990
which is pretty much of a dead
donation. Todd, LG and Katy,

2306
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:32,730
Texas another birthday. Coming
up for Isabella. And finally

2307
02:19:32,730 --> 02:19:36,630
just a couple of 50s here. Chris
Lewinsky brand out of Sherwood

2308
02:19:36,630 --> 02:19:40,050
Park, Alberta, where the money
is blended Savoie in Port

2309
02:19:40,050 --> 02:19:43,230
orchard, Washington, Mike
Westerfield comes in as usual,

2310
02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:47,430
and Matthew Stevens from
Richland, North Richland Hills,

2311
02:19:47,430 --> 02:19:53,160
Texas. And that's concludes our
very small donation segment for

2312
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,380
today's show. 539

2313
02:19:56,250 --> 02:19:58,890
I have one fine I like to pull
something out of the stack from

2314
02:19:58,890 --> 02:20:02,610
time to time from a run I in
Hoskins, Adam been a long time

2315
02:20:02,610 --> 02:20:06,750
1111 donor I've made a few $50
donations which I recall, love

2316
02:20:06,750 --> 02:20:09,060
the show thing that the work you
and John do is incredibly

2317
02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:11,790
valuable service. I wish I had
the means to donate more but I'm

2318
02:20:11,790 --> 02:20:14,340
a student I was hoping to get a
Karma shout out from my family

2319
02:20:14,340 --> 02:20:17,730
because my father just passed
away from melanoma cancer. I

2320
02:20:17,730 --> 02:20:20,640
never introduced my dad to the
show, but I would constantly use

2321
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:23,070
the information you guys
provided in the discussions we

2322
02:20:23,070 --> 02:20:26,910
would have these discussions
were a lot of fun for both of us

2323
02:20:26,940 --> 02:20:29,910
and He loves seeing me grow up
and form my own opinions and

2324
02:20:29,910 --> 02:20:33,000
challenge the things that he
believed. I think that the

2325
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:36,300
reason I love no agenda so much
is that your show that you show

2326
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:39,750
your audience how to critically
question facts and beliefs in a

2327
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:42,900
similar way. I think this
generation needs someone to show

2328
02:20:42,900 --> 02:20:46,710
them how to do this. And since
most people aren't so lucky as I

2329
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:50,310
was this show is the next best
thing again, thank you for all

2330
02:20:50,310 --> 02:20:53,580
your hard work I'm gonna give
him and his family a little

2331
02:20:57,870 --> 02:21:01,950
karma school.

2332
02:21:02,789 --> 02:21:05,369
Yeah, well, we have a lot of
smart kids listen to the show.

2333
02:21:05,490 --> 02:21:10,620
Thank God. Seriously. Yeah. Um,

2334
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:12,720
I gotta wait. You're gonna read
this stuff. I gotta read this

2335
02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:19,920
one. Okay, this is James. Reno.
No agenda material diseases, gun

2336
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:23,670
magazines and literature run by
anti gun Obama support. I didn't

2337
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:26,520
look into this, but it's a good
story whether or not it's true,

2338
02:21:26,730 --> 02:21:29,430
but I think it probably is he
went deep. The other day a co

2339
02:21:29,430 --> 02:21:31,620
worker was pretty big gun
enthusiast was looking through

2340
02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:34,320
one of his gun magazines. It was
getting a little annoyed because

2341
02:21:34,320 --> 02:21:36,660
the issue of littered was
littered with zombie apocalypse,

2342
02:21:36,660 --> 02:21:39,750
memes and dumb references on how
to defend against zombie

2343
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:43,560
attacks. I said to him, it's
funny. You feel that way and

2344
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:46,440
good that you pick up on the
memes. He gave me an enquiring

2345
02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:49,500
look. So I decided to hit him in
the mouth. I told him the zombie

2346
02:21:49,500 --> 02:21:52,050
apocalypse means had been around
for a few years now and been

2347
02:21:52,050 --> 02:21:55,230
used to discredit a number of
subjects. I bet him money that

2348
02:21:55,230 --> 02:21:58,830
the publisher had some left wing
connection. He didn't believe

2349
02:21:58,830 --> 02:22:02,490
me, so he pulled so I pulled an
atom on him. I took a few

2350
02:22:02,490 --> 02:22:04,890
minutes I looked up the
publisher of the book of

2351
02:22:04,890 --> 02:22:09,120
knowledge publisher turned out
to be intermediate outdoors LLC,

2352
02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:12,660
which is owned by intermediate
intermediate patterns, LLC, a

2353
02:22:12,660 --> 02:22:16,380
private equity firm intermediate
outdoors, LLC, is based out of

2354
02:22:16,380 --> 02:22:19,800
New York and runs at least 20
gun fishing and adventure

2355
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:23,130
magazines like guns and ammo
Shooting Times and hot gun news,

2356
02:22:23,340 --> 02:22:27,210
etc. Intermediate outdoors LLC
is based in New York and owned

2357
02:22:27,210 --> 02:22:29,370
by intermediate patterns drove
me to dig a little deeper, which

2358
02:22:29,370 --> 02:22:33,150
only took 30 seconds, which by
the way is typical. take that

2359
02:22:33,150 --> 02:22:38,160
long to get information, the
internet age and found the CEO

2360
02:22:38,160 --> 02:22:42,540
of intermediate patterns to be a
Leo Hindery, turns out to be an

2361
02:22:42,570 --> 02:22:46,230
avid Obama supporter and
contributor lookup. Henry,

2362
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:49,110
you'll find numerous articles
about his anti gun stance,

2363
02:22:49,140 --> 02:22:52,680
and he was considered to be the
President, Secretary of Commerce

2364
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:53,550
for a minute there.

2365
02:22:55,050 --> 02:22:59,970
So there you have it, a wolf in
sheep's clothing. But this is

2366
02:22:59,970 --> 02:23:05,010
like, what does it take? Me
people just they lap up all this

2367
02:23:05,010 --> 02:23:07,350
stuff. And then you know,
luckily, we had no agenda

2368
02:23:07,350 --> 02:23:11,970
listener had gotten himself to
the point where he had to prove

2369
02:23:11,970 --> 02:23:17,490
that what he was observing was
actually Yeah, didn't make sense

2370
02:23:17,490 --> 02:23:20,370
to anybody else. But he felt
there was some discrepancy here

2371
02:23:20,370 --> 02:23:23,220
did a little research, which,
like you said, took 30 seconds,

2372
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:27,360
which any journalist doesn't do.
And next thing you know, you

2373
02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:29,190
see, there's a scam going, it's
not a scam.

2374
02:23:29,730 --> 02:23:32,670
But see, John journalists don't
have time to do research because

2375
02:23:32,670 --> 02:23:35,850
they're too busy filling their
quota for a significant number

2376
02:23:35,850 --> 02:23:41,370
of articles. Well, that's gotta
be writing. Man. How's my quota?

2377
02:23:41,970 --> 02:23:43,140
Is it significant yet?

2378
02:23:44,010 --> 02:23:45,450
This should have been good, kind
of

2379
02:23:48,630 --> 02:23:52,650
one of those tote boards. Oh,
I'm sorry, you didn't make your

2380
02:23:52,650 --> 02:23:57,990
quota for journalists this week.
Chip Gregory. I'm so sorry. Oh,

2381
02:23:58,380 --> 02:24:00,900
and then the floor opens up and
they fall down into the dungeon.

2382
02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:04,110
Yeah. Okay. Alligators. We're
going to use a little bit of

2383
02:24:04,110 --> 02:24:06,450
help on Sunday, we are actually
trying to do some journalistic

2384
02:24:06,450 --> 02:24:09,690
work. So let's make the segment
a little bit longer. And that

2385
02:24:09,690 --> 02:24:16,260
contributes to the program with
your dollars of support.org/n A.

2386
02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:26,430
Tomorrow and we say happy
birthday, sir Derek Bobby,

2387
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:30,360
congratulating himself. He will
be celebrating on Saturday. Glen

2388
02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:34,560
Riccio, his daughter Leah, will
be 16 on the 21st Paul Webb will

2389
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:38,940
turn 33 tomorrow and CERN Nate
Wilson says Happy Birthday to

2390
02:24:38,940 --> 02:24:42,390
his sister, sister Jordan. She
is 13 years old today. Happy

2391
02:24:42,390 --> 02:24:45,270
Birthday on behalf of all your
friends here at the best podcast

2392
02:24:45,270 --> 02:24:51,330
in the universe. Right to
knighthoods. Today both the

2393
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:54,540
knights who have already claimed
names for themselves so we're

2394
02:24:54,540 --> 02:24:57,660
very happy to accommodate a
knighthood on the no agenda show

2395
02:24:57,660 --> 02:25:00,810
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you can receive a Next we have

2396
02:25:00,810 --> 02:25:04,470
our ring still. And if you have
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2397
02:25:04,470 --> 02:25:09,420
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2398
02:25:09,420 --> 02:25:12,840
all your details so we can make
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2399
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:18,540
order. Lon Baker and Derek
Molly's step forward gentlemen,

2400
02:25:18,540 --> 02:25:21,330
both of you have contributed to
the no agenda show in the amount

2401
02:25:21,330 --> 02:25:24,870
of $1,000 or more and therefore
I am proud to pronounce the

2402
02:25:25,050 --> 02:25:28,290
nights of the no agenda
roundtable. Kneel before me

2403
02:25:28,290 --> 02:25:32,100
speaker and Sir thirsty for you,
gentlemen, I have hookers and

2404
02:25:32,100 --> 02:25:35,400
blow rent boys in Charlotte and
a hot pan some booze, long

2405
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,280
haired heavy metal guys in
Scotts wages in Viet Rubenesque

2406
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,460
woman and Rosae guy she's in
sock a vodka and vanilla bong

2407
02:25:41,460 --> 02:25:45,750
hits and bourbon sparkling cider
and escorts at mudman Mead all

2408
02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:52,590
the roundtable of the Knights
and the dames. Yeah, hey, there

2409
02:25:52,590 --> 02:25:55,230
was another thing I was a couple
other things I was looking into,

2410
02:25:55,260 --> 02:25:59,310
I want to go down or not dawned
on her to you thought it was bad

2411
02:25:59,310 --> 02:26:05,310
here. But in New Zealand, it's
been you know, they have a lot

2412
02:26:05,310 --> 02:26:11,970
of bringing a new law onto the
books. And it's, let me see what

2413
02:26:11,970 --> 02:26:16,680
the exact name of it is. It's
like the it's basically a spy

2414
02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:22,050
program. And the spy program is
called the GCSB, which is like a

2415
02:26:22,080 --> 02:26:26,010
government crap spying bureau. I
can't remember exactly what it

2416
02:26:26,010 --> 02:26:30,690
is. And the New Zealand is
small. I mean, how many people

2417
02:26:30,690 --> 02:26:33,360
live in New Zealand? You know,
offhand, John, it's not a lot.

2418
02:26:34,020 --> 02:26:36,600
I think it's a 5 million, maybe
it's pretty small. So look it

2419
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:37,590
up. Okay, you

2420
02:26:37,590 --> 02:26:40,320
consult the book of knowledge on
that. So the prime minister, his

2421
02:26:40,320 --> 02:26:44,730
name is John Key is kind of
under attack for this. Because

2422
02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:47,220
you know, just because there's a
lot of sheep, and there's only a

2423
02:26:47,220 --> 02:26:49,830
few people. They're really
switched on down there. And

2424
02:26:49,830 --> 02:26:52,500
they're like, Hey, hold on a
second. This is not okay, what

2425
02:26:52,500 --> 02:26:56,070
you're doing. You can't just go
spying on us. And there's this

2426
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:59,490
or this, like, point 5 million,
5 million. So this is

2427
02:26:59,490 --> 02:27:01,500
legislation that's been written.
And now it's, you know, it's

2428
02:27:01,500 --> 02:27:04,830
been changed and amended. And
essentially, the way I

2429
02:27:04,830 --> 02:27:06,900
understand it, the Prime
Minister of New Zealand has

2430
02:27:06,900 --> 02:27:10,230
hired one of his buddies as the
judge who will determine if you

2431
02:27:10,230 --> 02:27:13,650
can be spied on, and then that
judge determines if there's

2432
02:27:13,650 --> 02:27:16,350
gonna be a warrant and it's
cross checked by the Prime

2433
02:27:16,350 --> 02:27:20,700
Minister himself. So it's the
whole thing. Obama and his death

2434
02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:23,550
list exactly what it sounds
like. So there's a here's an

2435
02:27:23,550 --> 02:27:26,220
interview, and here, here's the
here's the question about these

2436
02:27:26,220 --> 02:27:26,880
warrants

2437
02:27:26,910 --> 02:27:30,960
decide the security. Yeah, okay.
So that under cyber security for

2438
02:27:30,960 --> 02:27:35,940
sadoff GCSB. A has to get a
warrant from WHO? Okay, so the

2439
02:27:35,940 --> 02:27:38,940
warrant, like all warrants is
the same as the warrants face is

2440
02:27:38,940 --> 02:27:41,520
from have to be signed by the
commissioner of security

2441
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:44,880
warrants, which is a retired
high court judge appointed by

2442
02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:47,970
who by me has been here was the
other person who signs a

2443
02:27:47,970 --> 02:27:51,720
warrant. Okay, me, you and the
person that you've appointed.

2444
02:27:53,280 --> 02:27:57,750
Okay, so that was just a little
warm up. But this guy, you think

2445
02:27:57,750 --> 02:28:01,050
that that Obama is bad? You
think that the you know, the

2446
02:28:01,050 --> 02:28:06,030
Republican leadership are a
bunch of elitist pricks? We had

2447
02:28:06,030 --> 02:28:09,660
nothing on this on the Prime
Minister of New Zealand. Listen

2448
02:28:09,660 --> 02:28:13,500
to this woman asking about this
program, and how he feels the

2449
02:28:13,500 --> 02:28:16,620
new the population of zoot New
Zealand, kiwis, as they'll say

2450
02:28:16,620 --> 02:28:21,900
themselves in this interview, or
press conference? how low he

2451
02:28:21,900 --> 02:28:22,650
thinks of them,

2452
02:28:22,770 --> 02:28:27,660
the GCSB bill fundamentally, and
incredibly changes the powers of

2453
02:28:27,660 --> 02:28:30,720
the GCSB. Within New Zealand,
you may think that's a good

2454
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:33,060
idea. You might think that's a
bad idea. But the Prime Minister

2455
02:28:33,180 --> 02:28:37,380
suspects you don't actually care
at all. That's what he told

2456
02:28:37,380 --> 02:28:40,110
Rebecca right at the National
Party conference over the

2457
02:28:40,110 --> 02:28:44,790
weekend. Minister, we are doing
a state of the nation this week.

2458
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:49,620
With regards to the GCSB bill.
How do you switch to snapper?

2459
02:28:49,620 --> 02:28:52,110
More people watch cable light,
but it's up to you? Well, how do

2460
02:28:52,110 --> 02:28:54,660
you think that Kiwis feel about
the bill? I think they're much

2461
02:28:54,660 --> 02:28:55,980
worse than snapper quota.

2462
02:28:56,430 --> 02:29:00,180
Are you hearing what he's
saying? Yeah, you saying I think

2463
02:29:00,180 --> 02:29:03,000
the people are much more
interested in the snapper quota.

2464
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:08,610
I eat how much snapper you can
catch. But I'm not gonna make

2465
02:29:08,610 --> 02:29:10,530
the same request. I'm talking
about the GCSB. But how do you

2466
02:29:10,530 --> 02:29:12,210
think that they feel about the
GCSB. But

2467
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:15,480
I'm much more interesting
Stanford quote. Why? Because

2468
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:20,100
they like catching fish. As
opposed to well, they can see

2469
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:24,060
that either a they're fed a lot
of information through

2470
02:29:25,260 --> 02:29:29,280
information they see which is
just incorrect. But most New

2471
02:29:29,280 --> 02:29:32,610
Zealanders understand that
actually there is the need for

2472
02:29:32,610 --> 02:29:35,700
the GCSB. They accept the
government's perspective that

2473
02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:39,390
there's a narrow focus to that.
And they accept that this bill

2474
02:29:39,390 --> 02:29:43,200
is improving oversight, but many
of them will get a bit confused

2475
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:46,740
by experts that tune up on your
show that aren't really experts

2476
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,470
and actually don't know what
they're talking about. Will you

2477
02:29:49,470 --> 02:29:49,770
turn up

2478
02:29:49,770 --> 02:29:52,530
on our show and tell New
Zealanders what you're talking

2479
02:29:52,530 --> 02:29:55,500
about with regards to this bill?
On Monday week when we bring the

2480
02:29:55,500 --> 02:30:01,410
results back? Probably not Let's
sanctimonious

2481
02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:04,650
praying and then here's an
explanation okay, because we

2482
02:30:04,650 --> 02:30:07,770
have to dumb it down because you
know, people only care about

2483
02:30:07,770 --> 02:30:11,460
fishing in New Zealand, you
stupid Kiwis with your snapper.

2484
02:30:11,610 --> 02:30:15,870
Just go catch fish. Don't don't
if you're on the internet, don't

2485
02:30:15,870 --> 02:30:19,920
worry, just catch fish. And the
government is here to help you.

2486
02:30:19,950 --> 02:30:24,930
So what happens under that
provision is if the GCSB wanted

2487
02:30:24,930 --> 02:30:29,790
to provide cyber security
support to an agency, let's take

2488
02:30:29,940 --> 02:30:35,070
IRD and its facility. Okay. So
that's the provision under which

2489
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:37,140
again, they have to go through
that process of getting a

2490
02:30:37,140 --> 02:30:41,790
warrant by the inspector or by
the commissioner by me subject

2491
02:30:41,790 --> 02:30:44,610
oversight of the Commissioner, I
go to the inspector. Okay, fine.

2492
02:30:44,610 --> 02:30:47,250
So that's the first thing you
have to do you know what happens

2493
02:30:47,250 --> 02:30:51,480
under that they cannot look at
the content of anything in

2494
02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:55,080
there. All they can do is
protect you so it's against

2495
02:30:55,110 --> 02:30:59,550
malware, or against the virus so
you have on your computer, let

2496
02:30:59,550 --> 02:31:01,470
me finish because it's a really
important people understand

2497
02:31:01,470 --> 02:31:05,640
this. So on your computer at
home, you will almost certainly

2498
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:09,540
have Norton Antivirus where you
have some sort of anti virus

2499
02:31:09,540 --> 02:31:13,290
thing that you've downloaded and
paid money for. That is exactly

2500
02:31:13,290 --> 02:31:15,240
what that is at a much higher
level. I

2501
02:31:15,570 --> 02:31:19,650
think we should adapt the same
messaging it's like Norton

2502
02:31:19,650 --> 02:31:29,280
Antivirus NSA Norton's antivirus
security agency the disdain

2503
02:31:29,880 --> 02:31:33,840
skies unbelievable. They should
vote that guy out or do they or

2504
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:34,350
does he

2505
02:31:34,410 --> 02:31:37,230
was a parliamentary system so
did public doesn't necessarily

2506
02:31:37,230 --> 02:31:40,890
vote right right right right
they vote like parties and they

2507
02:31:40,890 --> 02:31:43,920
vote the party and and then the
party puts what I would take

2508
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:46,110
that entire party you know what
they should do this this should

2509
02:31:46,110 --> 02:31:48,180
be their leader and I would take
I don't know which party that

2510
02:31:48,180 --> 02:31:50,160
is. But let's take a look and
find out what

2511
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,390
what is key John Key know what
they should do? That one guy

2512
02:31:54,390 --> 02:31:56,940
should go up behind him and
pretend like you're tying your

2513
02:31:56,940 --> 02:32:00,810
shoe and then someone else
should push him That's what I'd

2514
02:32:00,810 --> 02:32:09,480
be doing. What a dick. Sorry,
y'all Kiwis down there? No one

2515
02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:12,810
and you got to be careful man. I
think the Kiwis can get rowdy.

2516
02:32:13,860 --> 02:32:18,750
Well, my goodwill angry I'd be
careful John Key. Yeah, Kiki,

2517
02:32:18,750 --> 02:32:19,530
what ke y

2518
02:32:19,860 --> 02:32:23,070
is like, looking at his picture.
He looks like an idiot.

2519
02:32:24,750 --> 02:32:28,770
Now now is now now we don't make
fun of appearances here on the

2520
02:32:28,770 --> 02:32:29,760
no agenda show.

2521
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:30,900
We do all the time.

2522
02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:33,630
Okay, then there's that

2523
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:36,570
was the fifth national

2524
02:32:36,600 --> 02:32:39,780
it must be the something or
other party. It's a bunch

2525
02:32:39,780 --> 02:32:42,120
of parties that have combined
because they gotta guess it

2526
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:47,220
couldn't get a confidence and
supply party with the ACT New

2527
02:32:47,220 --> 02:32:50,730
Zealand party with the United
Future party with the mayor Tory

2528
02:32:50,730 --> 02:32:59,580
Party. He is in the town. He's a
MP in a town called Helensville.

2529
02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:02,910
And he's been in there since
2008.

2530
02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:08,490
Wow, okay. Well, hey, you get
the government you deserve.

2531
02:33:09,330 --> 02:33:10,800
Let's see where Helensville is.

2532
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:13,590
It's your turn left to the
sheep.

2533
02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:20,430
Helensville was the middle of
nowhere it looks like here's his

2534
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:24,360
office. It was so shack he's got
his electorate offices a shack.

2535
02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:25,290
today. Well,

2536
02:33:25,320 --> 02:33:28,980
listen, producers in New Zealand
keep fighting this guy. Keep

2537
02:33:28,980 --> 02:33:33,120
fighting this because this is
bullcrap. And how this guy

2538
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:33,510
talks,

2539
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:37,590
he says that you're an idiot.
The topic is international. His

2540
02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:39,720
party is the national party.
That's the party you vote

2541
02:33:39,720 --> 02:33:46,260
against you. You fight against
this guy. By voting out the

2542
02:33:46,260 --> 02:33:48,690
National Party. They're
obviously they think that he

2543
02:33:48,690 --> 02:33:51,120
says himself. Do you think
you're idiots?

2544
02:33:51,150 --> 02:33:54,930
Yeah, you care more about fish.
And you're so stupid that you

2545
02:33:54,930 --> 02:33:57,540
think that you should believe
it's just like Norton Antivirus

2546
02:33:57,540 --> 02:33:57,960
percent

2547
02:33:57,960 --> 02:34:02,220
of the vote in 2011 election in
Huntsville,

2548
02:34:02,460 --> 02:34:06,810
get that guy out. I have another
little debunker ridge that I

2549
02:34:06,810 --> 02:34:12,150
wanted to bring in because it's
irritating me. I don't know what

2550
02:34:12,330 --> 02:34:15,930
this is the new story. And then
this propagated all over the

2551
02:34:15,930 --> 02:34:16,260
place

2552
02:34:16,260 --> 02:34:18,780
we have to meet in secret,
because if there's a nuclear

2553
02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:22,950
worker was called speaking to
me, he paid a high price. Mackay

2554
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:24,420
college if TEPCO knew

2555
02:34:24,420 --> 02:34:28,140
I was speaking with you, I'd be
fired for sure. Speaking out as

2556
02:34:28,140 --> 02:34:32,400
an act of suicide. Mr. Fujimoto
works in the decontamination

2557
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:36,660
program at the Fukushima plant.
He works 12 hour shifts, for

2558
02:34:36,660 --> 02:34:41,010
which he's paid just $10 an
hour. And he's watched as TEPCO

2559
02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:43,920
has failed repeatedly to stop
the leak of radioactive

2560
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:48,510
groundwater, with 300 tons of
leaching into the Pacific every

2561
02:34:48,510 --> 02:34:52,830
day. All right, so this is the
mean 300 tons of radioactive

2562
02:34:52,830 --> 02:34:58,080
water leaking into the ocean
every single day. And and so I

2563
02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:01,620
see this story come up, over and
over and over again. And then

2564
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:06,390
it's your natural news.com with
Mike Adams, the health Ranger.

2565
02:35:06,810 --> 02:35:11,910
Now this is a really popular
alternative news site. Right.

2566
02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:16,200
And his headline Fukushima now
in state of emergency leaking

2567
02:35:16,200 --> 02:35:23,250
300 tons of radioactive water
into the ocean daily. Now, I did

2568
02:35:23,250 --> 02:35:25,140
something called what is it
called again?

2569
02:35:25,440 --> 02:35:26,100
Math.

2570
02:35:26,130 --> 02:35:32,190
Yeah, yeah, math. And I actually
I sent an email to our knight,

2571
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:39,090
sir. Atomic rod Adams and said,
Please help me understand. I

2572
02:35:39,090 --> 02:35:42,690
feel like this is a meme because
it's this 300 tonnes of

2573
02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:45,450
radioactive water. You know,
who's measured this? Where's

2574
02:35:45,450 --> 02:35:48,900
this information coming from?
Where are these facts coming

2575
02:35:48,900 --> 02:35:54,450
from? And I need some help on
this. So I go to a source who

2576
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:58,470
actually drove around on subs in
the water atomic subs and he

2577
02:35:58,470 --> 02:36:02,820
works for for an atomic energy
company and he's he's a new guy.

2578
02:36:03,660 --> 02:36:06,780
He says Well, here is the
information for you on the

2579
02:36:06,780 --> 02:36:10,620
highly radioactive groundwater
so the samples according to all

2580
02:36:10,620 --> 02:36:14,130
this the same story by the way,
every time you google this 300

2581
02:36:14,130 --> 02:36:16,200
tons radioactive water leaking
the ocean daily,

2582
02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:19,410
it's the same single source has
been propagating yes,

2583
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:24,150
that which means it's
propaganda. Okay, these the

2584
02:36:24,150 --> 02:36:28,320
quote is a select few samples of
indicated strontium 90 at quote

2585
02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:33,150
30 times drinking water
standards. He says that sounds

2586
02:36:33,150 --> 02:36:38,160
scary 30 times drinking water
standards. The standard for

2587
02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:44,280
strontium 90 in drinking water
is 0.3 pico Curie per liter.

2588
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:48,750
Pico Curie apparently is a B and
a Q I thought it was a it's been

2589
02:36:48,750 --> 02:36:52,530
acute pico Curie Curie as in
Madame Curie, a person who

2590
02:36:52,530 --> 02:36:57,570
drinks a liter per day of water
contaminated to nine pico Curie,

2591
02:36:57,600 --> 02:37:01,650
which is 30 times the standard
would receive an annual dose of

2592
02:37:01,650 --> 02:37:08,670
0.09 Micro serviettes. Normal
background radiation is between

2593
02:37:08,670 --> 02:37:13,500
2.4 and 3.0 microserver yet per
year depending on the source of

2594
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:21,150
information. In other words, big
deal. Not. So you're receiving

2595
02:37:21,180 --> 02:37:24,990
up to three microserver units
per year of radiation just from

2596
02:37:24,990 --> 02:37:29,760
the background. And but if you
drank a liter of this water,

2597
02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:32,160
which you not because of going
into the ocean, well let's say

2598
02:37:32,160 --> 02:37:38,490
you did for an entire year, you
would receive 0.09 microserver

2599
02:37:38,490 --> 02:37:45,450
yet so it's not all that scary.
They're making it sound scary by

2600
02:37:45,450 --> 02:37:50,250
giving you information. That is
clear. But you don't know what

2601
02:37:50,250 --> 02:37:51,150
it means.

2602
02:37:55,500 --> 02:37:57,960
And the final conclusion you've
drawn

2603
02:37:59,040 --> 02:38:03,720
Well, the it's the same it's the
same conclusion as always drove

2604
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:06,180
the truck into the wall there
Yeah, well this the same

2605
02:38:06,180 --> 02:38:10,590
conclusion as always, is that
you This is propaganda to make

2606
02:38:10,590 --> 02:38:14,850
you anti nuclear when it is the
definition of renewable energy.

2607
02:38:15,270 --> 02:38:18,450
Yeah, no, I know that we you
harp on this more than I do.

2608
02:38:18,480 --> 02:38:21,570
Yeah, but I want to point it out
and that when you read this and

2609
02:38:21,570 --> 02:38:24,300
these headlines from your
alternative news service,

2610
02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:28,560
yeah, well, I'll tell you what
bothers me. And this has been

2611
02:38:28,560 --> 02:38:30,990
going on I think to start
messing with what was Fukushima

2612
02:38:30,990 --> 02:38:36,450
three years ago two years ago.
Yeah. Well, right it was nonstop

2613
02:38:36,450 --> 02:38:40,080
This thing's gonna blow this
thing is going to it's going to

2614
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:42,780
kill us all and it was and it
was a goal and now it's going to

2615
02:38:42,810 --> 02:38:46,140
melt down it's going to do all
this was this has been going on

2616
02:38:46,140 --> 02:38:48,270
if remember that one time when
there's a bunch of memes

2617
02:38:48,270 --> 02:38:48,990
floating around and

2618
02:38:49,410 --> 02:38:52,710
you knew you had a Geiger
counter for your fish

2619
02:38:53,790 --> 02:38:57,780
yeah, well don't deny it. Yeah,
well there was there's fish

2620
02:38:57,780 --> 02:39:00,810
around there and if it comes
from Japan I guess I'm skeptical

2621
02:39:00,810 --> 02:39:04,380
fish from Japan it's around
there's but it's not I don't

2622
02:39:04,380 --> 02:39:07,680
care if the fish is caught off
the coast of California so

2623
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:11,220
anyway no I'm not talking about
them talking about the doomsday

2624
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:15,300
with the cloud was coming over
we were gonna die out and it was

2625
02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:16,920
Alex Jones was selling

2626
02:39:17,400 --> 02:39:18,840
iodine iodine.

2627
02:39:20,970 --> 02:39:23,820
He made a million bucks on
iodine. I'll tell you that we

2628
02:39:23,820 --> 02:39:27,240
should have idiots who are
stupid on board we're stupid.

2629
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:28,260
We're stupid

2630
02:39:28,470 --> 02:39:30,780
because we don't jump on board
but if we did we'd probably be

2631
02:39:30,780 --> 02:39:33,480
making some serious money now
but anyway and then all the

2632
02:39:33,480 --> 02:39:37,440
Twitter guys Oh, you guys had to
cover this on no agenda. It's

2633
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:40,680
gonna blow covered on no agenda
because it's gonna blow and so

2634
02:39:40,680 --> 02:39:43,770
like it's not always it's not
gonna blow and we're not

2635
02:39:43,770 --> 02:39:47,070
covering it. Just and so now
we're just continues.

2636
02:39:47,550 --> 02:39:54,180
Yeah. Does and I remain by my
theory that this was and we have

2637
02:39:54,210 --> 02:39:58,290
all kinds remember that was the
the tsunami bombs that were

2638
02:39:58,290 --> 02:40:02,820
tested. We have Have you no
evidence that the there was tons

2639
02:40:02,820 --> 02:40:07,800
of tsunami bombs and this was a
very, very shallow earthquake.

2640
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:10,890
Right? You had this and I still
I still think it was. Yes.

2641
02:40:11,370 --> 02:40:15,000
Target troops. Yeah. Well go
read state of fear.

2642
02:40:15,810 --> 02:40:19,110
No state affairs tells us it
tells us a lot. So talking about

2643
02:40:19,110 --> 02:40:21,270
telling us a lot some of these
books there's a good book out

2644
02:40:21,270 --> 02:40:25,560
there on on Cornelius
Vanderbilt, the first tycoon by

2645
02:40:25,560 --> 02:40:29,370
a local writer named TJ Stiles,
and who's been on the speaking

2646
02:40:29,370 --> 02:40:31,890
circuit for a while he won a
Pulitzer and a National Book

2647
02:40:31,890 --> 02:40:34,980
Award for this piece of history.
And as I've heard him speak a

2648
02:40:34,980 --> 02:40:38,370
few times and is the book is a
must read, especially for people

2649
02:40:38,370 --> 02:40:42,870
like biographies. But you have
to there's a little side note

2650
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:46,920
about this woman named Victoria
Woodhall, who is apparently the

2651
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:50,130
reason it was never a good
biography of Vanderbilt, because

2652
02:40:50,130 --> 02:40:52,320
all his stuff was scattered
everywhere. He never kept the

2653
02:40:52,320 --> 02:40:55,470
library and never created
anything that would submit to

2654
02:40:55,500 --> 02:40:58,320
because he claims that most
biographers and I think there's

2655
02:40:58,320 --> 02:41:01,530
some truth to this, like to find
a cache of material so they can

2656
02:41:01,530 --> 02:41:04,830
sit on their butts in one place
and write a biography. They

2657
02:41:04,830 --> 02:41:07,860
don't like to spend, in his
case, six years combing the

2658
02:41:07,860 --> 02:41:12,000
country for for documents, but I
just thought that this was just

2659
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:14,790
a funny little clip, I picked it
off on one of his speeches,

2660
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:18,150
talking about this woman, and
you'll see what the punch line

2661
02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:20,580
is. You understand why this is a
clip?

2662
02:41:20,640 --> 02:41:24,120
If only I knew which clip it
was, it says Victoria wood Hall.

2663
02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:25,800
Oh, that would be the last clip
in the

2664
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:29,940
question, which is the issue of
Victoria wood Hall and Tennessee

2665
02:41:29,940 --> 02:41:33,480
Claflin. How do they factor into
the definitely not part of the

2666
02:41:33,480 --> 02:41:39,270
business side of Vanderbilt?
That's, that's one of the many

2667
02:41:39,270 --> 02:41:44,190
interesting side lights. A life
of this long intersected with a

2668
02:41:44,190 --> 02:41:48,150
lot of famous and sometimes
notorious people, or people

2669
02:41:48,150 --> 02:41:50,580
generally familiar with who
Victoria wood Hall is now it's

2670
02:41:50,580 --> 02:41:55,290
alright. Victoria wood Hall was
one of those interesting kind of

2671
02:41:55,860 --> 02:41:58,740
footnote yet more than footnote
characters in 19th century

2672
02:41:58,740 --> 02:42:02,700
American history. And she her
name came up during the last

2673
02:42:02,730 --> 02:42:06,240
election, because of Hillary's
run for the presidency. She

2674
02:42:06,240 --> 02:42:09,900
famously ran for president in
1872, the first woman to

2675
02:42:09,900 --> 02:42:14,160
announce herself as a candidate.
She was a really fascinating

2676
02:42:14,160 --> 02:42:18,060
figure, in part because I think
she was in part a con artist.

2677
02:42:20,430 --> 02:42:23,310
Wow, I didn't know this story.
That's cool. I like that.

2678
02:42:23,940 --> 02:42:25,380
I just saw the parallels.

2679
02:42:26,790 --> 02:42:31,770
And I gotta look at this. Now.
This is interesting. I visited

2680
02:42:31,770 --> 02:42:33,060
the Vanderbilt mansion.

2681
02:42:34,320 --> 02:42:37,830
One of many that are all done
not by Cornelius, but by his he

2682
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:41,040
Cornelius apparently was not a
skinflint, but he didn't believe

2683
02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:45,960
in mansions. And so it was
William that who sired most of

2684
02:42:45,960 --> 02:42:49,080
the family, which is his son,
who cranked out all these

2685
02:42:49,080 --> 02:42:52,110
mansions. So that's still knows
that it's only it's one

2686
02:42:52,110 --> 02:42:56,100
generation. It's one group
removed from Cornelius, you will

2687
02:42:56,100 --> 02:42:58,980
never yield. I don't know if
there's a house that that has

2688
02:42:58,980 --> 02:43:01,740
anything to do. He had. Here's
an interesting little factoid,

2689
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:05,370
comparing his wealth to Bill
Gates. At the time of his

2690
02:43:05,370 --> 02:43:13,950
maximum wealth. His total wealth
amounted to $1 in every $20 in

2691
02:43:13,950 --> 02:43:19,260
circulation, wow. Wow. Bill
Gates has got his rich. Yeah,

2692
02:43:19,260 --> 02:43:25,620
but his wealth amounts to $1 in
every $140 in circulation. Wow.

2693
02:43:27,210 --> 02:43:32,160
Victoria Woodhall was an
advocate of free love. It's my

2694
02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:35,910
kind of girl. Yeah, she went
from rags to riches twice your

2695
02:43:35,910 --> 02:43:39,180
wallet. Her first fortune being
made on the road as a highly

2696
02:43:39,180 --> 02:43:42,450
successful magnetic healer.
Nice.

2697
02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:46,110
Yeah, there's a lot he talks
about this actually. I'll see

2698
02:43:46,110 --> 02:43:48,330
if I can clip this out. Yeah,
get some of that for Sunday.

2699
02:43:48,330 --> 02:43:49,680
That sounds that sounds like
there was the

2700
02:43:49,680 --> 02:43:52,260
magnetic healing thing is quite
interesting. And apparently

2701
02:43:52,260 --> 02:43:55,530
Cornelius was into that too. It
says he says it was essentially

2702
02:43:55,530 --> 02:43:59,190
deep massage therapy. But there
was a lot of seance and all

2703
02:43:59,190 --> 02:44:00,150
kinds of stuff back to

2704
02:44:00,330 --> 02:44:02,670
back to the free love bit. Yeah,
well,

2705
02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:06,810
it's been around it comes and
goes. Age didn't help it.

2706
02:44:07,289 --> 02:44:10,829
True. But don't get me started
on that.

2707
02:44:11,460 --> 02:44:15,780
No, no, no. There's just so so
just one little thing American

2708
02:44:15,780 --> 02:44:19,080
Airlines and USTR they they're
gonna merge and then they killed

2709
02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:21,660
it. Yeah. And of course now
they're whining because they

2710
02:44:21,660 --> 02:44:23,670
approved all these other mergers
but what happened was the

2711
02:44:23,670 --> 02:44:25,860
Justice Department looked at
what all these other mergers did

2712
02:44:25,860 --> 02:44:29,400
and they said this is not it's
not working out. But I just got

2713
02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:35,220
this one clip. I think that was
two of them I think well let's

2714
02:44:35,220 --> 02:44:39,840
try the is gonna be this one
merger hurts competition clip.

2715
02:44:40,050 --> 02:44:43,590
You gotta listen to these two
CEOs yucking it up when they

2716
02:44:43,620 --> 02:44:46,260
when they win. This deal first
came about in about six months

2717
02:44:46,260 --> 02:44:50,430
ago. And the comment that one
CEO makes, I just rolled my

2718
02:44:50,430 --> 02:44:51,090
eyes.

2719
02:44:52,920 --> 02:44:56,970
It was all smiles and backslap
six months ago, is the airline

2720
02:44:56,970 --> 02:45:00,450
CEOs announced plans to merge
this really isn't About taking

2721
02:45:00,450 --> 02:45:02,820
two airlines putting them
together and providing better

2722
02:45:02,820 --> 02:45:05,790
service to customers. Our view
is it increases competition

2723
02:45:05,790 --> 02:45:07,230
doesn't decrease competition.

2724
02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:12,060
Okay, you can start today what
bull crap is is this is about

2725
02:45:12,090 --> 02:45:16,440
improving service and increasing
competition by becoming a big

2726
02:45:16,440 --> 02:45:19,920
one airline and so in other
words in parts of the country I

2727
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:24,480
apparently Regan international
airline 75% of the airport be

2728
02:45:24,480 --> 02:45:27,960
devoted to this one new airline?
Probably not I mean, these these

2729
02:45:27,960 --> 02:45:31,530
listening to these guys, why do
they even? What is it somebody

2730
02:45:31,530 --> 02:45:35,580
pi these guys, there's no way
this is going to increase

2731
02:45:35,580 --> 02:45:40,080
competition or improve service?
Well,

2732
02:45:40,470 --> 02:45:44,730
I mean, I've been in the airline
industry and it's incredibly at

2733
02:45:44,730 --> 02:45:47,370
a very small scale, but I
learned a lot about the business

2734
02:45:47,370 --> 02:45:52,410
and it's incredibly difficult to
make money with the unions. And

2735
02:45:52,440 --> 02:45:57,120
and it's not just the unions in
the airlines, it's everywhere. I

2736
02:45:57,120 --> 02:46:00,060
mean, the whole business it's
basically a money losing

2737
02:46:00,060 --> 02:46:02,790
business. It just is it's just
you can't make money with an

2738
02:46:02,790 --> 02:46:08,130
airline. It's burning your money
in the air. And it shows you

2739
02:46:08,130 --> 02:46:11,460
know it shows where you know now
they're they're moving the your

2740
02:46:11,460 --> 02:46:14,010
suitcase, you know, you have to
pay for your luggage and then

2741
02:46:14,010 --> 02:46:17,400
it's over 40 pounds. You can't
it was just crazy. It's just

2742
02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:18,120
it's too bad.

2743
02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:21,420
Johnny, I'm still waiting for
the day and ISIS, I suspect it

2744
02:46:21,420 --> 02:46:26,820
will come where they weigh you.
Yeah, and you probably you fly

2745
02:46:26,820 --> 02:46:29,970
by the pound. This is the way to
stop the weight. You need to get

2746
02:46:29,970 --> 02:46:32,760
weight loss in this country to
take hold. Yeah, if you're gonna

2747
02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:35,670
pay for the pound and you're a
big fat guy. You're gonna

2748
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:37,500
probably lose some weight to
save some money.

2749
02:46:38,910 --> 02:46:45,240
Did you know that delta now owns
49% of Virgin Atlantic? No, I

2750
02:46:45,240 --> 02:46:48,510
didn't know that. Yeah, I
learned that only by reading the

2751
02:46:48,510 --> 02:46:50,820
in flight magazine. Not a lot of
people thought they wanted to

2752
02:46:50,820 --> 02:46:54,120
buy the whole thing. And I bet
you that Branson wanted to sell

2753
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:58,590
the whole thing because he's
looking at it to go like oh

2754
02:46:58,590 --> 02:47:01,890
crap, man, just like burning my
money in the air. Even though

2755
02:47:01,890 --> 02:47:04,110
he's just a frontman doesn't
really do anything.

2756
02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:06,960
frontman for who?

2757
02:47:07,860 --> 02:47:12,420
For the for the real money,
guys. Big hedge funds and stuff.

2758
02:47:12,510 --> 02:47:17,280
Jeff, come on, man come I could
be Richard Branson. I look like

2759
02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:19,020
him. Not look like him.

2760
02:47:19,260 --> 02:47:22,560
So here's a story that came out
and just recently local street

2761
02:47:22,560 --> 02:47:25,920
tell me this is a good idea.
Play the clip brown and the

2762
02:47:25,920 --> 02:47:27,990
transgenders about high
schoolers

2763
02:47:28,950 --> 02:47:32,070
are another Governor Brown
signed a groundbreaking bill

2764
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:35,580
into law today. It allows the
state's transgender students to

2765
02:47:35,580 --> 02:47:40,080
choose which bathrooms they use
and on which sports teams they

2766
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:44,220
wish to participate. Ya know,
whatever, I don't care.

2767
02:47:45,000 --> 02:47:47,940
I just think it's a day it's
gonna be a nightmare. I

2768
02:47:47,940 --> 02:47:48,720
really don't care.

2769
02:47:49,020 --> 02:47:52,050
Why do high school how does high
school kids become a transgender

2770
02:47:52,050 --> 02:47:54,930
so soon? Don't you want to be a
little older before you make

2771
02:47:54,930 --> 02:47:55,680
such a decision? No,

2772
02:47:55,680 --> 02:47:58,530
unfortunately, a lot of parents
make decisions for these kids

2773
02:47:58,530 --> 02:48:04,590
which I think is not necessarily
a good idea. And they make it

2774
02:48:04,590 --> 02:48:08,580
early on. Yeah, the whole idea
of men's bathroom it's all like

2775
02:48:08,580 --> 02:48:09,960
this Puritan thing

2776
02:48:10,410 --> 02:48:13,710
well we could have people just
use it there are restaurants

2777
02:48:13,710 --> 02:48:14,100
that have

2778
02:48:15,660 --> 02:48:19,680
unisex shirt unisex pounds of in
Austin is very common, very

2779
02:48:19,680 --> 02:48:21,570
common. I think it's it's a good
thing.

2780
02:48:22,020 --> 02:48:24,000
Well, if you did that, that
would be better. Why don't they

2781
02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:25,650
just do that and make it unisex?
No,

2782
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:29,400
I agree with this. We've got
we're so when I was growing up

2783
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:34,740
in in Europe, the Europeans used
to laugh about the prude

2784
02:48:34,740 --> 02:48:38,820
Americans. Oh my gosh, you know,
they you can't talk even talk

2785
02:48:38,820 --> 02:48:42,300
about nipples or anything or you
can't show any Oh my God,

2786
02:48:42,300 --> 02:48:47,520
there's so which of course is
true. And and now we're in this

2787
02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:51,120
weird situation where we're
still in we have this very

2788
02:48:51,120 --> 02:48:55,980
prudish culture. Yet we're
trying to be really open and

2789
02:48:55,980 --> 02:48:59,910
free. It's like it's such a
dichotomy. It's I think it's

2790
02:48:59,910 --> 02:49:01,530
hurting people's brains really?

2791
02:49:01,980 --> 02:49:04,470
Well, I think it's designed to
hey, you know, I'm looking at

2792
02:49:04,470 --> 02:49:06,540
this general election and
Helensville thing I didn't

2793
02:49:06,540 --> 02:49:11,400
notice this right away. There is
a party in New Zealand called

2794
02:49:11,400 --> 02:49:13,380
the legalize cannabis party.

2795
02:49:13,890 --> 02:49:15,750
Yeah, I'd be voting for that.

2796
02:49:16,110 --> 02:49:17,280
I didn't get many votes.

2797
02:49:18,690 --> 02:49:23,670
Because everyone was like, dude,
let's vote. Oh, man, you got any

2798
02:49:23,670 --> 02:49:24,300
m&ms?

2799
02:49:26,850 --> 02:49:27,810
All right. So you're

2800
02:49:29,400 --> 02:49:34,650
gonna see I've got I got a kind
of a fun clip. You know, I've

2801
02:49:34,650 --> 02:49:39,450
been I'm following the New York
mayoral election for one reason

2802
02:49:39,450 --> 02:49:41,940
and one reason only because I
don't know any other candidate

2803
02:49:41,940 --> 02:49:45,660
running but Anthony Weiner. And
there's a chance he's gonna win

2804
02:49:45,660 --> 02:49:48,960
because it's just that's that's
how crazy it is New York, New

2805
02:49:48,960 --> 02:49:54,600
York. But he is he's, he's, he's
insane. Remember, I know this

2806
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:58,290
guy. I've interviewed this guy.
He's a douchebag. I interviewed

2807
02:49:58,290 --> 02:50:00,870
him a lot when he was
councilman. And then I knew

2808
02:50:00,870 --> 02:50:05,550
like, Oh, you're such an
insincere prick. And but now

2809
02:50:05,550 --> 02:50:10,410
he's he's, I'm not quite sure
what is going on, you have to

2810
02:50:10,410 --> 02:50:12,870
see the video, it'll be in the
shownotes. But I have the audio.

2811
02:50:13,410 --> 02:50:17,520
He's so he shows up for some
appearance on the street. And it

2812
02:50:17,520 --> 02:50:22,560
seems like there's like maybe 10
journalists and nobody else. And

2813
02:50:22,560 --> 02:50:28,380
he's making fun of his entire
appearance. But worse, there's a

2814
02:50:28,380 --> 02:50:34,320
woman from ITN the British news
service and she's asking him

2815
02:50:34,320 --> 02:50:39,810
questions and he's he's going
off the deep end. And I thought

2816
02:50:39,810 --> 02:50:41,070
maybe it'd be fun to listen to
it.

2817
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:44,730
Or it's American media. British
talking then it seems we're

2818
02:50:44,730 --> 02:50:47,370
walking along. How do you
maintain such resilience in this

2819
02:50:47,370 --> 02:50:54,990
campaign? Okay, it can't be you
want to be that person? What do

2820
02:50:54,990 --> 02:50:57,030
you mean? If you want to if you
want to be the Mayor of the City

2821
02:50:57,030 --> 02:50:59,400
of New York, you got to work
hard, and you've got to fight.

2822
02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:04,140
Okay, what about what's going on
in your personal life? And how

2823
02:51:04,140 --> 02:51:05,850
do you deal with that when
you're confronted and you've

2824
02:51:05,850 --> 02:51:10,260
been so exposed your family
Thank you, brother. How do you

2825
02:51:10,260 --> 02:51:12,810
carry on when what's going on in
your personal life? Either way,

2826
02:51:12,840 --> 02:51:14,730
I guess you must be on the
impression it's supposed to be

2827
02:51:14,730 --> 02:51:18,000
easy. It's not you're fighting
for a tough job. That requires a

2828
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:20,730
lot of toughness when you're on
the job so this is the way I'd

2829
02:51:20,730 --> 02:51:23,910
want it to be. Is it ambition?
Is it a hunger for the big job

2830
02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:29,400
the power? To take you
seriously? No. It's it has to do

2831
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:31,980
with wanting to be mayor of the
city of New York and wanting to

2832
02:51:31,980 --> 02:51:34,830
help the middle class and those
struggling to make it what do

2833
02:51:34,830 --> 02:51:40,470
you want to do? With a hunger
for the big job? Hello? Why do

2834
02:51:40,470 --> 02:51:42,480
you have my website Anthony
weiner.com I want to fight for

2835
02:51:42,480 --> 02:51:44,520
the middle class and those
struggling to make it would

2836
02:51:44,520 --> 02:51:51,330
anything stop you I just had a
feeling I'd like to step into a

2837
02:51:51,330 --> 02:51:53,850
Monty Python bit I don't know
what anything stopped me. What

2838
02:51:53,850 --> 02:51:55,800
do you want now is we're rocking
and rolling ahead. No, nothing's

2839
02:51:55,800 --> 02:51:58,950
gonna stop me I'm gonna win this
election. What makes you so sure

2840
02:51:58,950 --> 02:52:01,350
you're gonna win this election?
What can you give these people

2841
02:52:02,190 --> 02:52:04,680
I'm gonna work hard for them got
better ideas I come from a

2842
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:08,340
better place I don't I'm
building a campaign on ideas for

2843
02:52:08,340 --> 02:52:11,100
the middle class and those
struggling to make it and every

2844
02:52:11,100 --> 02:52:13,980
single day I'm fighting to show
them that I want their sport.

2845
02:52:14,370 --> 02:52:17,910
Look at me. When I started this
campaign I was 692 140 pounds is

2846
02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:20,010
all that's left to me. That's
how I'm doing this campaign. I'm

2847
02:52:20,010 --> 02:52:22,710
gonna slide under the door
Gracie match. Anything else I

2848
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:25,500
can do for ITV? You want to do
the weather or something? If you

2849
02:52:25,500 --> 02:52:27,570
can do the weather you can do
the weather for me. What Where's

2850
02:52:27,570 --> 02:52:30,270
it from? This is this is in
England. We can do the weather

2851
02:52:30,270 --> 02:52:33,270
here in New York. Do yours
instead it's gonna be raining

2852
02:52:33,270 --> 02:52:37,950
cloudy and gray. So to which you
can guys to try to keep your

2853
02:52:37,950 --> 02:52:39,810
head up keep a stiff what does
it sit upper lip

2854
02:52:40,619 --> 02:52:43,619
you know it's I think he's being
forced to do this John, but a

2855
02:52:43,619 --> 02:52:46,169
douche. But he's being he
doesn't want to do this. He's

2856
02:52:46,169 --> 02:52:47,369
being forced acid those

2857
02:52:47,370 --> 02:52:51,480
struggling to to make it those
struggling to make it

2858
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:55,320
Yeah, he's just it's forcing him
to I don't know what's going on.

2859
02:52:55,410 --> 02:53:00,990
Well, who's they? The Clintons?
The Clinton has to be the claim

2860
02:53:00,990 --> 02:53:05,790
of course is the claim da they
own him. But I mean, wow, this

2861
02:53:05,790 --> 02:53:11,580
is this is it's sad. It's just
sad. I you know it. It's kind of

2862
02:53:11,580 --> 02:53:12,990
I wind up killing himself.

2863
02:53:14,310 --> 02:53:17,340
Oh, put it put that in the book.
I'm putting it in the Red Book

2864
02:53:17,340 --> 02:53:17,700
just that

2865
02:53:17,700 --> 02:53:20,940
in the book. This isn't it? This
is not not going well for him.

2866
02:53:24,030 --> 02:53:27,870
By the way, if you want to take
it to the next level, he might

2867
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:30,990
he might appear to have killed
himself.

2868
02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:34,320
Well, hello, Clinton body count
Google that.

2869
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:38,550
All right. Teenager nowadays.

2870
02:53:41,100 --> 02:53:47,880
Hello, please. How easy it is
not that would not. Yeah. And I

2871
02:53:47,880 --> 02:53:53,220
have Ted Koppel who was he was
kind of funny these days.

2872
02:53:53,790 --> 02:53:56,130
Yeah, he's a real Obama bot. Hit
it.

2873
02:53:56,790 --> 02:53:59,640
America's chronic overreaction
to terrorism with the headline

2874
02:53:59,790 --> 02:54:03,300
you wrote, we have created an
economy of fear and industry of

2875
02:54:03,300 --> 02:54:07,140
fear, a national psychology of
fear. Al Qaeda could have never

2876
02:54:07,140 --> 02:54:10,380
achieved that on its own. We
have inflicted it on ourselves.

2877
02:54:11,340 --> 02:54:14,490
Fundamentally, there are two
sets of questions that apply in

2878
02:54:14,490 --> 02:54:17,490
the war against terrorism. The
one set of questions deals with

2879
02:54:17,490 --> 02:54:21,030
the where's it gonna go? Where's
it going to happen? What's going

2880
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:23,580
to happen? When is it going to
happen? The other set of

2881
02:54:23,580 --> 02:54:28,050
questions deals with what is it
that our enemy the terrorists

2882
02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:32,340
are trying to achieve? What are
they trying to induce us to do?

2883
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:35,250
Take a look at what's been
happening over the past week

2884
02:54:35,700 --> 02:54:43,470
with a conference call. Al Qaeda
has effectively shut down 20 US

2885
02:54:43,470 --> 02:54:45,930
embassies around North Africa
and the Middle East.

2886
02:54:46,290 --> 02:54:50,160
But that was pretty funny. I
think what's a video conference

2887
02:54:50,160 --> 02:54:52,710
call actually. He's right
though.

2888
02:54:53,640 --> 02:55:00,360
So the guy I running as a head
is this Bill de Blasio. He's

2889
02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:01,500
leading with 30%

2890
02:55:01,980 --> 02:55:03,030
What are you talking about?

2891
02:55:03,480 --> 02:55:05,490
I'm talking about the New York
race just said you don't know

2892
02:55:05,490 --> 02:55:09,600
who was winning. Okay, you're
back to that winner. I just went

2893
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:13,230
to look it up because I wanted
to know. And wieners down to 10%

2894
02:55:13,260 --> 02:55:18,450
Really? Oh, I'd had down from 16
Every meeting fast everyone

2895
02:55:18,450 --> 02:55:24,510
in the chat room is saying he's
it's this story. The Wiener

2896
02:55:24,510 --> 02:55:27,450
store he is Peter from House of
Cards and I've seen House of

2897
02:55:27,450 --> 02:55:33,360
Cards and wow spot on. So here's
how it happens. He kills

2898
02:55:33,360 --> 02:55:41,460
himself, asphyxiation in his
car. After getting caught one

2899
02:55:41,460 --> 02:55:47,070
more time doing whatever he
does, and then but of course,

2900
02:55:47,070 --> 02:55:51,690
he's the way it happened was as
he was, he was drugged and they

2901
02:55:51,690 --> 02:55:54,150
put him in his car in the garage
and left the engine running and

2902
02:55:54,150 --> 02:56:01,170
then he died. So look for a an
exhaust pipe suicided death for

2903
02:56:01,170 --> 02:56:02,010
Anthony Weiner.

2904
02:56:04,440 --> 02:56:07,050
That could be i If it happened,
it wouldn't surprise me if life

2905
02:56:07,050 --> 02:56:11,550
imitates life imitates art. And
we've been doing this show long

2906
02:56:11,550 --> 02:56:15,510
enough to know he can actually
have a shot himself twice in the

2907
02:56:15,510 --> 02:56:17,550
head with a gun in his left
hand.

2908
02:56:18,270 --> 02:56:22,740
You think it's crazy? Google it.
Alright, I'm gonna go read up on

2909
02:56:22,740 --> 02:56:26,550
Victoria Woodhall. I think that
there's stuff to be learned here

2910
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:29,130
about what we can expect from
Hillary.

2911
02:56:29,640 --> 02:56:33,630
Yeah. When she was if she
pictures or in college, she

2912
02:56:33,630 --> 02:56:34,980
looks like a free love chick.

2913
02:56:35,220 --> 02:56:37,410
It looks a bit like Victoria
Woodhall, actually with the

2914
02:56:37,410 --> 02:56:42,270
short hair. Check it out and see
the pictures of her. Yeah,

2915
02:56:42,420 --> 02:56:45,810
what's it black and white? A kid
a big booty though.

2916
02:56:47,280 --> 02:56:54,450
Well, well, hello. I will be
back on Sunday and I'm sure

2917
02:56:54,450 --> 02:56:56,970
there'd be a lot more for us to
talk about some research that

2918
02:56:56,970 --> 02:57:02,040
I've been doing on a couple
other things. As more on the war

2919
02:57:02,040 --> 02:57:05,610
on sugar to more magic numbers.

2920
02:57:06,180 --> 02:57:09,930
King has it up Hillary vibe

2921
02:57:10,050 --> 02:57:15,120
as she does. Coming to you here
from the travel sites hide out

2922
02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:18,420
of the capital of the drone Star
State in Austin, Texas proud to

2923
02:57:18,420 --> 02:57:21,660
be your crackpot in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry

2924
02:57:21,690 --> 02:57:24,090
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I'm proud to be the

2925
02:57:24,090 --> 02:57:27,600
buzzkill seven dog biscuits over
five I'm John C. Dvorak.

2926
02:57:27,779 --> 02:57:31,649
I'll raise you five whiskies on
that we'll be back on Sunday

2927
02:57:31,649 --> 02:57:33,179
right here on no agenda

2928
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