Oh, he's awesome. He's awesome case Tony Stark, Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak. Sunday, September 29 2013. Time for your
getting donation media assassination, Episode Five,
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This is no agenda free of
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everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and with all the long winded Vnus from Northern Silicon
Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
kind of drawn those out now like who am Vichy Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. What is this? That what? This is a new instrument?
Yes, I have I bought myself although I'm not recommending
this to anyone. Yeah, a Japanese device called an Otama tone
with me is that one of those like It looks like a pipe kind
of thing. It's an electronic device.
It looks like a giant a note.
Oh, Tom, I think so. didn't sell on G
A. m a t o n e Yes. Somebody right. Yeah, someone
recommended and you actually went out and got one
Yep, I got one a year it is they're not cheap. No, I thought
it was overpriced to be honest.
It looks like it's 127 bucks is that oh no. Okay, and how is the
family dealing with this new purchase they love it. Yeah,
because they don't live there right now. Okay. All right. All
right. You send out an interesting 35 bucks is still
that's still too expensive.
Yes indeed. So you send out another harmonica What
do you send out an interesting newsletter quite shocking
actually. Shocking. I found that to be shocking that you had
opted out of I think not one but two beauty pageants to watch C
span
there was to
wait a minute which wasn't there there was Miss World or was
there another one Oh
Miss Worlds coming up?
Oh no no no Miss World is done now that's Miss Universe no Miss
World No Miss Universe miss work listen to this Miss Philippines
has been crowned Miss World on the Indonesian island.
Right right right. It was Miss World Miss universes Canada
who's the
expert? You are? And by the way, Miss Miss of Philippines. She's
American. Yeah.
scam is a total scam. The Panama girl is the best but
oh man but did you see Have you seen pictures of this Miss
Filipino girl? Yeah, she's very pretty like Angelina
Jolie. She's got like out actress written Oh,
yeah, exact actress. That's what we call it. Actress. Rail. Yeah.
All right. So there was I'm just filled to the gills today with
all kinds of stuff and I kind of tried to stay away from although
I watched it, obviously. And of course, just in case I pulled a
couple of clips from the big Bogut of hearing with our
buddies
plug it in. I got a couple of clips from this thing. I just
want to tell everyone what I did so that you know that that's
coming up later on in the show. I of course I'm all over the
IPCC report the working group number five as you can expect
from from your no agenda show we've actually read some of it
and have some some comment on it.
I'm sure you do. That's what you do best right. You know if I hit
this bot bottle knocking on the floor again it's gonna be it
irksome have a bet Bob nevermind. Just cramped in here.
It's terrible. So I listened to the hearings.
Okay, explain what hearing this this is all part of the
continuing snows was
a no, no. This was the specific C span three intelligence
committee hearings. Right.
Which but that's that's what I call part of the snow job.
Certainly part of the Snowden job, Ben snow job. Yeah. So I
got a couple of interest. I actually have quite a few clips.
I got way too many.
But set it up just so people understand what they
had they had clapper and then they had
Director of National Intelligence the liar clapper.
Right. The known he's unknown. He's already lied before
Congress. Yes. He said no. Alexander Kaiser, Kaiser Kaiser
in our buddy Cole. Oh, the deputy FBI guy who stands in for
a holder who refuses to do these things. Because he wouldn't go
he knows enough not to answer questions. Right. So Feinstein
begins the thing with a bunch of apologetic crap. and also brings
in a couple of interesting. What I think this seems really about
is, is to actually give the NSA more power.
Well, that's what that's what it appears to be that what she's
proposing would actually give the NSA more power.
Yeah, well, she's worried about the whole apparently there's a,
there's a doughnut hole in the law that allows suppose that
these people, they're collecting all the data, but apparently the
one thing they actually follow the rules on is if you're a
foreign national that who's being tracked, they can't track
you in America. As soon as you get to here, they have to stop
tracking right. That's phase zero since but they're bitching
about it both Feinstein and and Alexander complains about this.
And by the way, I'm totally convinced even though I
listened, re listened on the clips, and it's not so apparent,
but when you watched Alexander I'm absolutely convinced he was
in the camp. He was in the bag. He was slurring stoned. Well, is
it from alcohol? And they also started the meeting a half hour
early for some unknown reasons.
Do you think that's his drug of choice? Who do you think he
drinks and maybe he does a line of coke just to wake up kind of
like,
he has no characteristics of a coke user? Well, I wouldn't know
how to tell I'm not I'm not skilled. He doesn't go to his
nose. He doesn't do a million things. He doesn't talk a
certain way. He's not fast talker, that's for sure now. So
let's just go and get this get the Romer thing out of the way.
Here's Feinstein on roamers.
Okay,
to the Congress. Through our reviews, we have identified a
gap in the government's collection don't have a gap. If
the government learns that an authorized non United States
person target of section 702 collection enters and remains in
the United States, the NSA must cease collection on that target.
These are known as roaming incidents. Of course, this
collection has stopped just as the individual may be may be of
the greatest concern. So we have drafted a provision in law to
provide a limited period of seven days under which
surveillance may continue while the government goes to FISA
court up to seek a traditional individual probable cause
warrant to continue the collection
thing that really ended and I have one clip which I think you
don't have we can play in a little bit but what really
bothered me about Feinstein who was the she's the chairperson of
the what he called the Intelligence Committee
right Senate Intelligence right
but you think that this hearing is like to learn and Nisha No,
no she's it's literally like like she's the teacher posturing
and she's going to tell you everything that's that's going
on what the fact that her in
the loop loser next door who is the Republican guy, and all they
did was kiss the ass of the NSA the whole thing except for white
into Udall
Well, yeah, I mean, do you think Feinstein's got enough to hide?
Sure. He
was also getting these deals or husbands buying post offices and
all the rest of it. Exactly. It's a scam. I should she's the
biggest scammer Yeah, but here's the one. Here's the clip that I
teased in the newsletter, which I still think is funny. This is
Feinstein on the mall and the Somalians. Now if you if you
interpret this clip the way I interpret because she does
nothing to change her, her statement, she is actually
saying that the NSA can't do its job. One. This is the subtext
she doesn't know she's saying, but this is what you know the
truth that this is the real truth coming out. The subtext is
one they didn't know anything about this mall thing in
advance, even though apparently somebody some people in Kenya
did because even my economic hitman mentioned that they you
know, that people were warned not to go that day. Yeah,
exactly. And but apparently our intelligence, he didn't have
anything to do with it. She says it's gonna be just as easily
happen here in the United States, which means to me what
she's saying, right there is then you will you can play the
clip to confirm this because she never backs off of this comment.
She says it can happen here means that this agency is doing
nothing to stop anything. And then
NSA surveillance programs have prevented dozens of terrorist
attacks against the United States and numerous other
countries around the world. Just this past weekend, we were
reminded that the terrorist threat remains. We watched in
horror as a small group of determined gunman mercilessly
killed over 60 innocent men, women and children at the
Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya. The death and direct and
destruction we saw at the mall could have been at a mall in the
United States. We know that al Shabaab, the terrorist group
that has claimed credit for the attack has success. Slowly
recruited young men from the United States to come to Somalia
to train in their jihadist camps. And the group firm
formally merged with al Qaeda in February of 2012.
I'd like to say a few things about this. First of all, it's a
sad state of affairs when no agenda intelligence is better
than that of the NSA, the CIA and the State Department.
They got other things to do.
We were talking about Kenya three weeks ago, we were already
telling you to be on the lookout for something and we didn't
specifically know what's going to happen. But the you know, I
know you've received it from your economic hitman. I've
gotten it from my from my boots on the ground there in in Kenya,
you know, there was a lot of warnings, but there's always
consistent warnings about that specific Mall. By the way, the
fact that is called Westgate Mall, it's just, you know, it's
fantastic. That's why, you know, Feinstein is using this to just
to scare people. What I find interesting is that, you know,
there were 50 students apparently shot dead in their in
their beds yesterday or overnight. But that's not any
news. I guess because I don't know we can't relate to it or
maybe it's not the right al Qaeda fraction. But this al
Qaeda Inc thing, which which he alluded to is you know, Al
Shabaab and it's it's a subsidiary, and they're all you
know, franchises and everyone seems to be on board with this.
Your al Qaeda is now
a small business it's a bit it's a small offices, so it's a small
office and so I'd forgotten now on this Yeah, it's a Soho
operation, but you read like the economist, and they're all on
board with this and then you know, big news over the weekend.
Al Qaeda has opened its first official Twitter account Are you
kidding me? I seriously and actually I have it here what is
the on a second it's it's it's not like al Qaeda Inc. You know,
it's just well be well it's this is why you can't trust any of
this stuff that at the people believe it too. We also really
only know that it was Al Shabaab because they tweeted it and I
guess apparently you can't track anything that's done on Twitter.
And no, it's possible. So here is it is show mo collarless slum
it's these guys they need the curry Devorah consulting group
this is not a good twitter handle people. So here's from
three hours ago. Your governments are responsible for
everything that happens to you at the hands of the Mujahideen
stop the black hate of your regimes ask your government why
they are still rubbing our lands killing our children's violate
our women's and disgrace our legions desecrate Democrat I'm
sorry Democrat. Democrat our legions to this is the fitting
Yeah, and by the way, only 2700 followers come on al Qaeda you
can do better than that. Yeah, that's date. You should at least
buy some you know.
Yeah, go to eBay and pick up some bow grab followers and
followers.
Man, this is not looking right. So this whole thing is such
theater of the mind. And how fine fine Enberg sits there. And
just pontificates from her little left what a shambles is
that the guy who's sitting next to
her No, no, no, this Saxby Saxby chambers. Chambliss is the black
guy, or is it going oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes,
Saxby Chambliss, actually, the worst. I mean, here's a little
clip from him if you want to hear just him. Yeah, let's do
it. Let's Saxby clip.
I don't have Saxby clip.
Let's see where it doesn't. No, I got too many clips. This is a
real problem today.
I want me to just remove a couple.
No. I do have a point to make on these.
I know. That's why I'm letting you go. Well, we could do Saxby
later. Go ahead and roll it out because I
Okay. Well, let's get let's do. There's one other thing from
Feinstein wishes, Feinstein makes it worse. Okay.
We know that al Shabaab has claimed that some of the
attackers had sent to the mall and Nairobi were from the United
States and other Western countries. So the United States
intelligence community has not confirmed this information.
Wow. Everyone knows they were from Wisconsin by now.
No, no, Minnesota, Minnesota. I'm sorry. Yeah, well, where's
the NSA? How come they don't name names? How come they don't
go arrest these people?
Yeah, this is the thing that that that that is interesting
that it's never asked.
They don't ask anything at this, this whole thing. Here's my
favorite one. Now, I didn't put this clip in here because there
was too many clips. I didn't we didn't need to play it again.
But I'm gonna remind people of the clip This is a clip from I
don't know, six months ago show when when clapper lied, and when
holder came up and holder wouldn't lie. And here's the
question was and you remember it? Is it is are they collecting
information that can be used by the administration to blackmail
legislative people and put them in an edge when he
said and he said, Well, today is Wednesday. What you know what,
John, this is how good this show is.
I just asked, Could you assure to us that no phones inside the
Capitol were monitored of members of Congress, that would
give a future executive branch if they started pulling this
kind of thing up, would give them unique leverage of the
legislature.
With all due respect, Senator, I don't think this is an
appropriate setting for me to discuss that issue, I'd be more
than glad to come back in a, in an appropriate setting to
discuss the issues that you have raised,
we can only pull these kinds of clips out because we have a
staff here of hundreds
staff of 100 fingers 100 Gay, so that is now I'm claiming right
now. Marco Rubio has been compromised. You have Marco
Rubio out of Florida. Now Florida is one of the one of the
conduit points. In fact, there's more Brazilians in Florida. And
if you go to Brazil, nine times out of 10, you're gonna fly
through, I think, is Miami. Yeah. And because they don't
have flights. That's how you get there from now on. So as
everything goes through Miami, and he's like the senator from
the state. So you think that if he's given the opportunity, he's
on this committee to ask a question, like, why were you
spying on the Brazilian president? Why was, you know,
just some interesting question of any sort. And he is like the,
the, you know, he's supposedly this great libertarian tea party
guy. Now you play me this clip, this is Rubio's entire little
thing you only had he just has a little lead, and then a
question. And then he's done, which is he was given five
minutes he uses to you tell me that something's not up with
this guy,
Senator Rubio.
Thank you. And thank you, gentlemen, for being here today.
This is a
definitely thank you for their service. As well
blow up an interesting issue to try to balance this, especially
when you explain it to people back home, and you talk to them.
On the one hand, I think people understand that I'm gonna echo a
lot of what Senator Coats said here. But I think people
understand the need to provide for the security of our country,
although I think sometimes as the years go by, we tend to
forget the the threats that we face, because they've been
prevented in many instances. And on the other hand, I think we
understand that people have these privacy expectations,
sometimes or not privacy rights, per se, according to the court,
but there are certainly expectations. And Americans are
very uncomfortable with the notion that the government if
they wanted to, could see every phone call they made and and
everyone they called, I think all of us is further complicated
by a general distrust of the federal government, which I
think has been exacerbated by the fact that there is a history
in this country of abusing intelligence information for
political purposes, obviously, not in recent times. But but but
in the past. These are things that people are concerned about.
So now, the question is, you know, how do we balance all
this? And, you know, on the one hand, I understand the idea that
the government could get your phone records anytime they want,
and see who you've been calling, people would think that they
could be targeted. On the other hand, as I've told people, you
know, of Osama bin Laden had been making regular regular
calls to someone on Wall Street, I guarantee you, it wasn't a
stockbroker. In fact, I bet you it wasn't a stockbroker, who
that was.
So these are the things that we would want to balance. And in
light of that, I wanted to talk a little bit about the
safeguards. So maybe the American people have a better
understanding of the things that are already there that protect
them. So I've noticed in some of the information that's been made
available, that there's a significant amount of resources
at the NSA that are devoted to safeguarding the privacy of
Americans. Can you in General Alexander, can you discuss in
more detail, the size and the scope of the NSA safeguards to
ensure that information about Americans are protected from
from these sorts of things?
And while you do that,
Senator, thanks for that question. Because we do have
extensive safeguards.
Could you please spread your cheeks a little bit because I
can't quite put my tongue in. I can't quite get it in. Oh, thank
you.
Thank you. Jojo is useless. Oh, that's great. And he's a great
speaker. He was the one of the area died. Now he's stammering
and he's got some
he's been not well, either. Wow. That's it's either that or he's
been offered the deal.
Well, they might have been offered the deal, but the way
he's acting, he's had a guilty look. He was like a kid kicking
kicking dirt. And he's looking down and he's stammering and
he's getting this out this question that's pre done.
question that was obviously asked that, you know, it was a
setup of softball question. It was useless. Nothing to anybody.
You know what I mean? He is compromise he has done this
guy's over the years. But he's been he's gotta be he's got
something going on. They They busted him, let
me tell you what I think is going on. And we didn't really
talk about it too much. But when we had this, this FBI guy who
was now been put away for, you know, 15 years, like three
months because he compromised to information about another fake
underwear bomber in Yemen. And then all the rest of the time is
for kiddie porn on his computer. This is this is yeah, this is
what's going on. I I can tell you now that they've planted
some kiddie porn on the guy's computer, and it's like, Marco.
Polo. That's it. That's all they had, then. In fact, they only
have to look at him and go Marco Polo. And he knows what's going
on. I think that's what they do. This is this is the new
narrative. It's just want to put kiddie porn on your computer.
We've busted you because they busted that guy. You know,
months ago. Before that before they actually funny enough, it
was like five days before they discovered that he had provided
the leak to the Associated Press. They bust him for kiddie
porn on his computer. Are you kidding me? Sorry to use the
pun, but that's exactly what this is what they do.
Yeah, that's fine. Didn't get the pun. Yeah.
I didn't even intend it to be that way. But
so I had a funny thing happened. I was I was clipping one of the
widened clips
and some kiddie porn showed up on your computer.
Not no thank God. So anyway, so the widen if you had to play,
this is the wide end with the autoplay on my computer, cranked
up an autoplay. And then I got on the clip. And I said, Oh,
this isn't it was a funny coincidence. You'll get a kick
out of
gentlemen, you talked in your opening statements about the
damage that was done.
Does he sound like Bill Gates, by the way or what?
He does sound a lot like a bigger list. Yeah, by the recent
disclosures.
I believe in US government official thought that the
intrusive, we're not quite sure
who to believe anymore. sources have told people that Michael
Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones are on the path to
reconciliation after a mixed reports for a while now.
I mean, it's I know they don't want you doing the show. But
this is going a little far. It's like maybe we can trick him with
some Catherine Zeta Jones information. Maybe we can
distract him from that. Before you go on to widen. I have two
quick Feinstein clips, which I don't think you have. Okay. So
one and this is this is the part where she's just grandstanding
and she uses I forget now, was it I think it's coal. Maybe it
was the Kaiser to basically tell the press to do not under any
circumstance call this a surveillance program. That's not
what it is
ask one question and I'll ask it of you if I may. Mr. Cole. Much
of the press has called this a surveillance program. It is not
attention attention press is not what she's gonna use cold.
Explain why.
And the general belief out there is that everybody is surveilled.
They are not
this is this is her this is her her Waterloo right here because
this will go to you we gotta we gotta keep this clip is a
keeper. Yeah, this is this is this is fantastic. And you'll
listen to coal and coal throughout this entire his
entire time on the mic. Check. One two, is you know, he's he's,
he's got he's got his shit together. He's, you know, he
knows how to talk. He's getting the words out, he starts to
fumble so bad in his answer, because he's lying.
The metadata collection of phone numbers has been described in
that form, that it's surveillance, please describe
exactly what is collected as metadata.
This is before the press, you understand Hello, journalists,
you if you you've been put on notice, you will not be a part
of the media shield law. If you continue to describe this as a
surveillance program, you must stop and here's why.
Madam Chairman, what is collected admitted as metadata
is quite limited. It's much like what you would see on a phone
record, say it is
you you go like say it just say it, just say it. She bops in
there for a second you say it, and then he because he's you
know, he's not getting to the point.
It is the number that a telephone calls just the number.
It doesn't include the name of the person calling. It doesn't
call.
But listen need to include the date. Look it up and wait for
him to put a phone number into Google and you'll get somebody's
name. It's not that big of a deal. Wait
for him to stumble and fumble and have
the person called it doesn't include any content of that
communication. It doesn't include financial information,
or anything like that the way it is,
by the way, there's a little I'm what listening for more and more
of these linguistic tricks they're trying to pull. Yeah,
what he's doing is describing the metadata, it doesn't mean
that they don't have the other stuff. Well,
he's about to fumble over exactly that, where he, where he
where he says, what you're going to hear him say, I'm
paraphrasing is what we have it. But we okay, we can't we can't
legally go searching for it. But he does. But he kind of like
brings it around to say like, you know, where he says we can't
do it isn't like, it's technically not possible. But
legally, it wouldn't be possible. You'll hear him
fumble, because he realizes he's getting tongue tied. It's just
the
number that was called the date it was called, and the length of
the call. If you want any additional information beyond
that, you would have to go and get other legal process to
here's
already realized in his head, he's like, Oh, shit, I just kind
of said that we kind of have all the information. Yeah, he
shouldn't be gone. And now he's, well, well, these guys are full
of themselves. There's an instance during this hearing,
where Clapper was babbling on about something and Alexander
decided to jump in.
Like they're doing a pitch for a venture capitalist.
Unbelievable. Yes, to find that information and acquire it. And
I think another important point is, while a great deal of
metadata is collected, very little of it is actually looked
at, it is only looked at and only can be looked at when there
is the reasonable articulable suspicion. Okay, so
this is where he fucks up reasonable articulable
suspicion, he's like why did I say it like that? Oh, for a
specific phone number to be queried in this database. And
then whatever that number calls can be looked at, otherwise we
do not and cannot just roam through this database looking
for whatever connections we may think are interesting or or in
any way look at it beyond the restrictions in the court order.
So essentially, they roam through the database that's
exactly what they're doing
which is roaming
database you worked there and you had access to the one of
these terminals like apparently Snowden may have had or unless
it was if you fed him we go to our theory is that the CIA?
Here's what you do select star from Star export to dot xls, or
whatever, are you kidding this? Okay, I only have one more clip
on this. And then if you have a final point to make, I want to
hear this this is for me, this was the big revealing moment
where Frankenstein reveals they are and but she doesn't she
doesn't have all the words right because instead of saying
backbone, she says the internet background because she's a
fucking moron. Sorry, excuse pardon my language. But but she
means to say the Internet backbone. And he or she
literally says upstream collection, which is what we've
been talking about on the show for almost since inception. It's
you know, we know of the building on Second Street in San
Francisco. This is what the whistleblower This is silent
wind, this is a whatever the project was called. This is
where the the fiber optics are literally tapped off from, you
know, AT and T and level three, and whoever else is, you know, a
big tier one provider, and they're just sucking all up and
collecting all the data. It's called upstream collection. And
she admits to it in this case, because she's so dumb. She
doesn't understand that email is not bungled. Like, it's some,
you know, like, it's a, like a UPS package, but she thinks it
is. But really, she's talking about the just swooping up. All
packets
I interrupt this just sort of spawned. In mid 2011. NSA
notified the DOJ, the DNI and the FISA court, and House and
Senate Intelligence Committees have a series of compliance
incidents impacting a subset of NSA collection under Section 702
of FISA, known as upstream collection. Upstream collection
This comprises about 10% of all collection that takes place
under 702 and occurs when NSA obtains internet communications
such as emails from certain US companies that operate the
internet background, ie the companies that own and operate
the domestic telecommunication lines over which internet
traffic flows
before I continue now you agree with me what she's talking about
is full on tapping of the of all packets.
Yes, that's what it sounds like to me. And what's frightening
about this is she doesn't even get it. Well she doesn't get it
obviously internet background, but but she would what's
frightening was this was the comment that this comprises only
two And percent only.
Just what else are they
collecting?
In essence, the issue that arose in 2011. Was it NSA, while
trying to acquire emails to from or about an overseas target,
realized it and was inadvertent and it was inadvertently
acquiring other emails, including some emails sent
between persons inside the United States that happened to
be bundled with the email messages NSA was trying to
collect.
Was that with a piece of string with some twine that it was
bundled, was it a zip archive? What was it Diane,
this bundling is done by Internet companies Oh, and other
to make in order to make it easier to send information
quickly over the telecom lines.
Ted Stevens, series of tubes Exactly.
Make up the internet, not a Trojan.
This is the makeup the internet Hold on.
The telecom lines that make up the internet
is the telecom lines that make up the internet. By the way,
this show is bundled to you right now with all bunch of
other podcasts to make it more efficient to get them to you.
That's why That's why at&t bundles our podcast with Joe
Rogan to make sure that no, it's easier to get it to you.
Unfortunately, NSA technical systems could not easily
separate the individual messages within these bundles.
Anyone who has had any, any experience with I don't know a
computer knows that this woman is is really, really full of
the result was collected some email messages it did not intend
to acquire. Okay. We held a lengthy hearing on the court's
ruling on October 20 2011, at which General Alexander and Lisa
Monaco, then the Assistant Attorney General for national
security, describe the court's ruling and what they were doing
to address it. Here's my point. It was a mistake. action was
taken immediately to correct it.
Oh, okay. That's all that's really all that I had to. I just
wanted, I just needed to point out
it was it was idiotic. Yeah, it was very sad. So So I got
there's a couple there's a Wyden has a couple one question, which
makes you wonder why he's asking this question.
And Wyden is the guy who originally asked clapper if they
were like tapping any citizens and citizens citizens,
where he knew they were Yes. And clapper lied to Congress. So we
have to, by the way, during this committee hearing, how many
people that point up? I'm sorry, that was during this hearing, or
any of these hearings? Does anyone ever bring this up to
clapper that he did this? No. You think maybe Marco Rubio
would know? So here's Wyden grandstanding, and there are
these two white in clips. One of them's got a very interesting
piece of information in it that I think I'm gonna see if you can
spot it
shows that in America, the truth always managed to come out. Not
withstanding the extraordinary professionalism and patriotism
of 1000s of dedicated intelligence professionals. The
leadership of your agencies, built an intelligence collection
system that repeatedly deceived the American people. Time and
time again. The American people were told one thing about
domestic surveillance in public forums, while government
agencies did something else in private now these secret
interpretations of the law and violations of the constitutional
rights of Americans become public, your agencies face
terrible consequences that were not planned for. There's the
loss of trust in our intelligence apparatus here at
home and with friendly foreign allies. And that trust is going
to take time to rebuild.
Now you're gonna have to tell me because I heard a lot and
it wasn't in there. Okay. All right. So it'll be in this clip.
The next one which is on the this is the question he asks he
can't get an answer. And I two things come to mind when He does
it by the way. One thing comes to mind why is he asking this
question and why is he so adamant about something is fishy
about this question. He don't know what we'll figure it out on
this show. I'm sure before anybody gets a clue but but but
in here, he also drops a little bomb I didn't realize
now with respect to questions, let me start with you, General
Alexander. And as you all
know, can you see General Alexander
general Well, he's got it sounds like a mix between Bill Gates
and Sylvester the cat.
I think it's a General Alexander.
Okay, play.
Go ahead. What do you want to say?
Well, I'm gonna say, I'm just playing this, see if you can
identify the little thing.
Now with respect to questions, let me start with you, General
Alexander. And as you all know, it's my practice to notify you
in advance. So there won't be any surprises about
this is like question time. scripted. So as you know, why
don't you just say at age
four page if you can go to page four. And this is a scene
interior, at the hearing and fade from black and q.
Now, with respect to questions, let me start with you, General
Alexander. And as you all know, it's my practice to notify you
in advance so there won't be any surprises about the kinds of
issues that I'm going to get into. And director Alexander,
Senator Udall, Senator Heinrich and I, along with about two
dozen other senators have asked in the past, whether the NSA has
ever collected or made any plans to collect Americans cell site
information in bulk, what would be your response to that?
Senator, on July 25, Director Clapper provided an unclassified
written response to this question amongst others, as well
as a classified supplement with additional detail, allow me to
reaffirm what was stated in that unclassified response under
Section 215. And I say, is not receiving cell site location
data, and has no current plans to do so. As you know, I
indicated to this committee on October 20 2011, that I would
notify Congress of NSA is intent to obtain cell site location
data prior to any such plans being put in place. As you may
also be aware of general expressed, if I might just still
have a few more because it does.
That's it. I think we're all but I haven't finished reading the
scripts. Hey, man, I'm
gonna stop it there. They get nowhere. I mean, I'd like to
know you're with it. That's not the question. I'm asking
respectfully. I'm asking, how's the NSA?
Do you like Vista over XP a ever collected
or ever made any plans to collect American cell site
information? That was the question that we still
respectfully general have not gotten an answer to? Could you
give me an answer to that?
I mean, we did. We sent that in both play the way he says we
did. Yeah, we got it allowed me to continue. As you're also
aware, I expressly reaffirm to this committee, this commitment
to the committee on June 25 2013.
Okay, so this is getting bad. And I don't want to bore people
stiff with all these clips. But I do have I do have a kind of a
and ask Adam clip, which is Coach Indiana, on NSA in the
media. And I'm going to ask you a question after this clip. This
is the guy that Rubio deferred to. He says I pretty much agree
with everything coach is the guy from Indiana said which which is
stuff like the what you're going to play now. And then the
question comes to mind.
Well, Madam Chairman, the word Trust has come up a couple of
times here. And I think that's clearly something that we're
having to deal with that makes it difficult to convince the
American people that very significant measures have been
taken to protect their privacy. What's disturbing to me is that
despite the information that has been provided, declassified,
made available to the public directly available to the media
has not resulted in always accurate. Analysis and
presentation by the media, or understanding by the public,
maybe they just don't want to believe it. I was shocked. One
morning and listening to a major network program on one of the
major networks. Having discussed previously with General
Alexander, General Clapper and others at NSA, that that media
outlet had been briefed, given relevant classified information
to certain certain people who were in charge of this
programming, only to have any discussion during that program.
The comment by the lead, individual of look, they're
listening to everything we say. This was after a detailed
discussion about the programs, what NSA does and what it
doesn't do what the intelligence committee does and doesn't do,
knowing that the leaders
Alright, and here we go. As Adam James All right, I'm ready for
your question.
Okay, so they say they had a classified discussion with
broadcast executives and people from some show to set him
straight. Now, can you can I have? If I have classified
clearance? Can I just give away classified information? Unless
the other party has classified clearance? Guy just give it to
anybody. So I have a bunch of classified information because I
have clearance. I have it in my head. And I go tell everybody,
can I do that? Legally?
Let me ask, well, hold on a second. When I was at, when we
were in at Uncle Don's house, during the first Hot Pockets
tour, we were there and one of my nieces, not one of my my
nieces, friends, and you know, they all kind of live in this DC
area they were up visiting. She has clearance. And I was asking
about, you know how long they lived in Japan. And she's 17.
And she looked at me and she said, I can't tell you because
you don't have clearance. So that would be a no.
So that would be a no. So that tells me one of two things one,
well, that tells me one of three things. One, the first one
they're lying about the whole thing Yes. possible due to they
are giving their illegally revealing classified information
to the news media, who they're never even supposed to talk to.
We'd have plenty of clips that say that's true. Or three
more interestingly, everybody's meeting. Oh, whoa, hold on a
second. Stop the presses.
So so the news media now their words has clouded it has
clearance. And it's a it's a total conflict of interest,
because they're obviously being fed secret information that they
can't reveal. So they can't even do their jobs.
I can't even find out why my nieces friend was in Japan.
Big deal. And here last is a kid. Three months. classified,
classified information.
He said you don't have clearance. I can't tell you. I'm
sorry. You have to leave the room. I can answer the question.
But that's so I think your third option is where it's at. And a
lot of the news media is not only has the clearance, they are
compromised. 100%
Hello. So then the guy gets shocked. In fact, the probably
the people that were on the talk show because of the clearance
issues never got the word. This guy's an idiot. This coach guy.
Yeah. And then yeah, so there's so one of these guys says, yeah,
they're watching everything we do. You know, okay, they
probably are. But it's beside the point that guys, that really
bugged me to hear that one.
So to wrap this up a little bit with just a couple of things
that are taking place in the news as we speak. One in just in
under three weeks, I think October 18. The brand new movie,
The Fifth Estate premieres just in time for all of this is of
course, the movie I mean, talk and it's a it's a Katzenberg,
Spielberg DreamWorks thing. So it's a real movie. This is the
about Julian Assange, called The Fifth Estate. And so that'll be
out October 18. So that timing is perfect for all of this. I
probably should have another big leak. Oh, wait a minute. Glenn
Greenwald, has now teamed up with Jeremy Scahill, Scott Hill,
with the birther Foundation funded Dirty Wars documentary
slash movie, and they say they are going to be working together
and they will come out with a huge story about the US
assassination program, tying the National Security Agency's role
into the US assassination program. So yeah, yeah, no, it's
fantastic for our show. So that will be coming. And now the New
York Times, interestingly, is yes, I saw this to what what now
all of a sudden, they're getting all kinds of inside dope from
well, they
have neuron Poitras writing for them. Oh, gee, that's right,
by James risin and Laura Poitras, ah, and Laura Poitras,
and they
put this like rice is very much an intelligence community guy.
So they have this little PowerPoint page for little
snippet which is unreadable. I mean, I've tried to blow this
thing up. I've tried to zoom in on it you can't actually see
what it says have you been able to look at this this?
No, I haven't really I saw it. It's the CS
s ya N CMS. I think it'd be synapse but it's not it's the
sya NPSE data model,
the synapse? No, no, no, it's
sya NPSE
sIaps. site like a cyan is probably supposed to be synapse.
Somebody spelled
that hey man, and the PowerPoint is like these little like blue
spider things on the side. It's all very smooth. Hockey and lots
of diagrams. But if I brought this to a pitch meeting, I'd be
thrown out this is not this you can't this is not a diagram that
makes any sense. You can't read it the only thing you can read
is it's Lex hound tasking T x B Paki. God knows what it is but
what the what the story Laura Poydras boy has been Yeah, my
guess now she's from she's gone from filmmaker to New York Times
journalist. She claims that the NSA has been gathering data on
social connections of US citizens which I don't find to
be any big revelation you
can do that yourself. Yeah, Facebook.
Well yeah. isn't what's the what's the thing that Leo show
always promotes? I don't know what are they? It's like the new
squares squares. The square squares squares space company.
They have a new like data thing. Oh, yeah, I pay for quick
fulcrum for me. No, I wrote them. scrotum. scrotum data. Oh,
what's it called? It's like I don't know
I guess zone I usually leave when they do the commercials.
Yeah, no, but
it's a service and then you input your Twitter info right.
Right. I think it's scrotum data.
Whatever it is. So I have two more clips I wanted to get them
out of the way so we can get on with this
well I just wanted to mention one more thing by no complete
coincidence I'm sure the answer damn Internet Exchange has
decided they're going to put a direct line into the US East
Coast exchanges I guess to make it easier for the NSA to tap
Yeah, so they used to buy transit the the am six I guess
the or they were buying transit and now they want to own their
own lines between the Amsterdam Internet exchange and I guess
maybe East some all they would
be met yeah may ease wishes in Virginia by some all is that
makes it easier. You have to commute.
Some all some all scrotum data. That's what it is. Some some
all. Told you sound like scrotum. Some all scrotum.
Alright.
Okay, so you don't the only other guy that I asked any
questions, and he does his thing by asking a blunt question. He
gets kind of blunt answers. And they're actually frightening. He
essentially asked three questions. He says, Do you have
any upper limits on what you can collect? And the guy says, No,
we're collecting everything we can what? I mean, after all
these denials, this this question comes up at the very
end of the whole thing, by the way. And then he says, Is there
any you collect all kinds of stuff? He says, Yeah, we you
have to this is actually kind of astonishing what you get to hear
here.
General Alexander, if I might turn to you initially, and the
recently released documents that lay out the FISA courts
interpretation of relevance in the context of section 215, to
mean that the government can collect the phone records of
millions of Americans on a daily ongoing basis. If I could, I'd
like to ask you three quick yes or no questions. Under the FISA
courts analysis? Are there upper limits on the number of
telephone records you can collect? Is it the goal of the
NSA to collect the phone records of all Americans? And finally,
do you believe that the courts analysis gives the NSA the
authority to collect other kinds of bulk records?
He's not and to tell if the answer is yes, yes. And yes.
It's astonishing. Yeah. Don't you love it?
Again, if you could give me a yes or no answer to those three
questions, I would appreciate it.
And I'm going to I'm going to ask because I'm not a lawyer,
reading the opinion, I'll give you the answer. But I would ask
the Deputy Attorney General to make sure that I say each of
these exactly right. If I thought
this was yes, yes. Yes. If we could
sort of mine out right. How was exactly right. What does that
got to do with anything by the way, it is a little creepy that
the NSA and the FBI are essentially in bed together.
This is just a sweep. The FBI has always wanted they an edge
on all this stuff because they can arrest people easier. Nobody
brought up in the hearings where what how the IRS got all this
data that they got to go bust people with? I mean, none of
this came up and this and this all this answer does just
confirm everything. You
know, this is why I'm opting out. You know, I am no no, no,
this is my new thing. I Adam curry opt out, I opt out, I do.
I no longer carry a cell phone. I just don't know I don't and
people look at me like, I have my iPod Touch. You know, and
it's, by the way, iOS six and it's the previous version. So
it's the pre Steve Jobs kicking the bucket version, the iPod
Touch, because after that, you know that you know, Tim, Tim
Collins, what's his name?
Tim Cook, Tim. Tom Collins. Good drink. Dammit Jim Collins, Tim
Collins, Tim Collins got just got lime juice.
So the Tim Collins, you know, that guy's letting the NSA and
we know why. Because we have this document in 2012 they
jumped on board with the program. So all I do is I walk
around, and I've only got a Wi Fi thing off until I need it,
you know, and I have all these little Wi Fi spots that hotspots
I can connect to you know, can they can they trace me? Yeah,
you know, Can I do it? Is there a MAC address? Yes, sure. But I
am opting out and people look at Wow, that's what kind of phone
is that? So it's a brand new one, man. Wow. And boy, oh, I
love this iOS eight. It looks so good. No, no, I'd say this is
iOS six. I just I'm not an idiot like you. I didn't I didn't
upgrade that shit. Now that all the spy shit in there. So I'm
opting out. I'm opting out at the airport, I'm opting out of
cell phones. I'm opting out of new vehicles.
So did you see the story that was out? One of the our
listeners sent where apparently the New York Police Department
is going from person to person when they see someone with an
iPhone handing them Yes.
Why are why are you upgrade? You have to upgrade you have to
upgrade to iOS seven solace. And it's not because and here's what
I was thinking at first, uh, well, they want everyone to so
they can use the fingerprinting. No, no, no, it's only the new
phones. They got the fingerprint thing? No, there's no reason to
have iOS seven. Now
there is it's because it has the new locking system. So you're
essentially the phone is registered in this database,
which the police have access to? Right. And not only that, but it
has it has the new elf transmission system that can
talk to your brain. So you hear voices in your head? I haven't
heard that one. Well, do you have an iOS seven device?
I don't know. Yours.
I opt out. That's all I'm saying. I'm serious about it.
John, you bought a long time ago. I know that?
Well, I just don't like to be for other reasons. So we had one
of our producers sent in this note about the name of our
female listeners as a matter of facts and in the note about the
about the New York thing and then mench and didn't send a
copy of the of a patent that Apple has, which I believe might
be incorporated in iOS seven, but it's a coincidence. And the
patent allows the phones to allow us some communication from
the cell towers to basically brick all the phones in an area
for a limited period of time. Yeah. So you got your Apple
iPhone, which is typically what a protester would have, because
they're all Apple users I produce is already in the Google
phone. So that's why Oh, yeah, sure. Google doesn't use Android
is probably already all in who knows about the Windows phones.
So you're at the one of these events and
people with Windows phones, no one cares. You protested the
windows, the protesters will kill you.
So you read the Occupy Wall Street and they want and you're
being kettled like they would do in the UK. And then your phone
turns off, and your phone turns off and you can't do anything.
You can't communicate with anybody. You can't do anything.
They all have phones in the area get turned off. This is and this
is so this is why the New York Police Department I totally
believe this why else would they give a crap about wanting people
to upgrade to iOS seven now?
I think it's the story. It's a known story by now although not
widely reported, of course, but notice, yeah, this is about
added security to your voice. I liked it when they play the Oh,
you give you added security. Yeah, well.
I opt I need a t shirt. I opt out just That's it. Frankie says
I opt out. I'm just done. I'm done with all you don't have to
play along with the game television. I opt out. I'm not
watching it. Except professionally. I watched the
Spanish I got it. But I just thought that we sat down for
three of the new shows. When we'd like let's watch this
Michael J. Fox show. I like Michael J. Fox if
you made the mistake of not watching the McDonald's
commercial. That was one entire half hour the Robin Williams
Show. No, I haven't seen that. No. It started off as Oh,
they're gonna lose McDonald's as a client. It was essentially a
humorous version of Mad Men. Yeah. And the whole show was
about how they're trying to get Kelly Clarkson to sing the
McDonald's theme from the 70s and remind people how home good
McDonald's is really the entire show was a McDonald's
none of that's called native advertising. We know what this
is native advertising it
was it was it was a jaw dropper native advertising. I can't
believe the public didn't look at that and go this is this is
disgusting the
public is is brain dead dude. Alright, right Forget all that.
I'd like to say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you Adam curry and also in the morning
all the ships to see boots on the ground, feet in the air. sub
committees at work subs in the water and the names and nights.
And in the morning to all of our human resources there in the
chat room nodes in the stream.com. No agenda chat.net.
Good to have you here on this Sunday. Also in the morning to
all of our artists who help us out with our art here on the
program, Joshua Pettigrew. He's been an executive producer
before and he also was our artists for episode 551. No
agenda art generator.com. Thank you very much. For that Joshua
really appreciated that we look forward to what everyone comes
up with for today's show.
We do have a few executive producers to thank and did a lot
of them came in today it's really very pleasant, including
Ryan marriage with the 66666. But on top of the list is
Timothy Dickman, who came in with twelves 4070, which makes
him an instant night and his birthday. So that's why you
wouldn't know this stretch on the most uninteresting number.
Perhaps listeners would love to hear how you two met seeing as
you run in different circles. We told the story. We met on Leo
show. No no. Yes, yes. Oh, no, no. Yeah. Dead Sea net.
Oh, no. The first time we met I was intimidated by you. It was
the it was the the pilot. It was a weekend I think a taping of
pilots the entire pilot for CNET, which before it was even a
website was supposed to be a television network. And you're
right. And I but I think we only like said hi or whatever. And I
was like, God, that guy's good look, and he's doing like a
McLaughlin group thing. And, you know, I was like, hey, it's kind
of professional. Now that I remember and I removed to
you, I said, Man, that's a good looking guy was looking at Hey,
look at that. Look at that bulge.
Is that what you thought?
You were a slick talker. And President higher you
remember? Thank you. No, no, no, no, no, I opted out. And here's
the funny thing they offered me. Well, of course, I had to move
to San Francisco and move away from MTV, which I was doing at
the time. They offered me like 1,000,001 point 3 million
options of CNET stock. And I was like NAS
like, man, that shit. I kid I bet you have the letter
somewhere still.
That's how stupid I was. I'm like, Nah, fuck that. This will
be
you know, it was. It was a long shot.
1.3 million options. This will never turn out to be anything.
No, no good. So yes, that's uh, but then we met met. I think I
Skyped in and was just I think this was before Leo was even
doing video on twit wasn't what the No,
no, no, no, we had no, no, we met again after that. It was
fringle actually,
right. We had a dinner. But that was only after we launched but
that was only after we met on the show. And after the show,
you said to me, I remember you said, curry. What's your deal?
You know, you
got like? Yes. Yeah. Well,
you said what's your deal? Are you rich? You know, are you
right? That's what you said.
Oh, that's because I was in Europe. And I ran into a
newspaper that had a big feature about you about how rich you
were?
Are you rich? You know, people seem to hate you. That's you
said something like that. I'm like, Oh, by the way, people
seem to hate you mouse man.
No, not such vitriol. Anyway, so yeah, that's how we met so
whatever the case let's get on with the letter I please. Boring
everyone's stiff
now people love the origin story of it.
Or as I call them orange stories. Also how John and Leo
got to be friends like Leo and I
worked Oh yeah, that's that's boring. We don't care about it
is
and why Adam never gets on twit.
been banned doesn't take a whole show. I'm banned.
He has been reading John's das books and so as a teenager Hey,
get out get over. Perhaps Johnson throwing a copy of his
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have a longtime douchebag but could use some job and girl
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Oh, okay.
I think we can Yeah, I think that's it,
Eric. It's clear. Feel free to make fun of my last name, Adam.
He already did. Yes. I don't think John will have trouble
pronouncing it. Or you can call me a Hoser a cheers in the Great
White North home of Bob and Doug McKenzie. You guys are always
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means Chinese dynamics. Wow Tada ching ching Yes. All right and
and he wants anyone to carve Okay, let's do it all in one go.
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By the way, you should have heard the whole thing. If you
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I have to say that I and he's what is he? He says he's a he's
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Wow, what happened there?
I don't know. Eric said that note it so we did. Yeah. Wow.
Okay, I'll take actually one of the copy that I just made. Take
a look at the webpage. We always do this stuff. Let me see the
let me just see what the foundation looks like. Rebecca.
It's pretty. Rebecca Tim all Foundation is a charitable
organization focused on educating society and how to
live sustainably conserving sustainably conserving the
environment for future generations. Okay, very nice.
I'll put that link to that in the show notes.
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well, really big news. John. Big, big, big, big, big, big big
news. Okay, we have weather weatherman. Who are going to no
longer fly? Going to get vasectomies? No longer have
children? What? That's right. Yeah. So we didn't hear about
this, did you? That's all over the news. Yes, the weatherman,
this famous weatherman, Wall Street Journal weatherman. He's
when he read the IPCC
report was way way, way way. The Wall Street Journal has a
weatherman
Eric Holthaus used to do weather for Wall Street Journal so
he's he read the IPCC, well, IPCC report and decided to cut
his balls off.
No first, what
kind of what is her messaging in that?
First? Well, I'm gonna tell you first he decided he was no
longer going to fly. He's never going to fly again. Because of
his his horrible carbon footprint. No, I'm not kidding
you. This is big news. This is in like newspapers.
Is this guy like, Okay, what's his name? Eric Holthaus.
Ah, Eric with the C. Holt house hrl. Tha us. He also has tweeted
that he's considering a vasectomy. And this is, this is
by the way that trend because we I know a
lot of guys will go out of their way to get laid. But this is
like ridiculous trying to pick up some of these hippie chicks.
So he's
well and one of the hippie chicks is Tinkerbell, who's a
Dutch artist. And she recently had a vasectomy. That due to,
you know, none of these people want to continue to ruin the
earth. And this is this is onplan. This is what it's
supposed to be killing people by not having them killing off the
population, which I think is fantastic. I don't want any more
air cold houses on in on the earth. Now, what's interesting
about all this is that and the IPCC, this is the big climate
gate, guys. Let me go take it away.
So they've come out with their edition of the report. But wait,
that's not entirely. No, they came out with an executive
summary for policymakers on Friday. And all of the messaging
of the report doesn't actually come out until next week, which
is a joint if you and I had been advising them, we would have
advised this I have to say, brilliant, because all the
messaging is out there without anyone able to dive into the
2000 page report, which, by the way, I have been reading because
of course, I got the final draft. I have it in my
possession. It is almost impossible to comprehend. And
I'm going to go through some of it with you just to help you
understand why. Why the you know, the the the bigger the
lie, the easier it is to fool everybody. You know, it's it's
incredible how this this bucket of bullcrap is being translated
into the messaging. Well, here's the really here's the IPCC
itself. What
can I interrupt you before? Yes, just a little bit, because I
just I hate to say this, but I opened up Eric Holthaus. his
Twitter feed of No, please. Sorry. But I just want to ask
you the question. This this could be an ask Adam. So if in
he makes a big deal in this Twitter feed about he's not
flying anymore? Yes. I'm so if I, if I'm scheduled to fly on a
pack 767 from San Francisco to New York, and I decide not to
fly, you are
saving the Earth, my friend, and someone else takes that seat.
So how much carbon Am I really saving here?
It depends if you can hold your breath for the entire duration
of the flight you would have been on your saving carbon
could be okay. Well, I'm just wondering what the deal is. It
doesn't make any sense to me because these flights go on with
with or without him. So they burn fuel.
But it's a start. We have to start somewhere. John, if we
don't all participate. This is
fine. He says we can all make a difference. I'm just one person.
The world is such a beautiful place. I can't help but doing
everything I can. I am opting out. Yeah, okay, well, you're
opting out, it's probably gonna lower your carbon footprint.
Here is the release of the IPCC report with L douche baggy O's
onstage giving you the talking points report
confirms and you'll hear a lot more about it with even more
certainty,
okay. Now this is very interesting. Even more
certainty, at no point anywhere in this report that I can find,
do they actually say fact that in fact, there's an entire scale
which we'll get into in a minute, so you'll hear words
like likely very likely, virtually certain very certain
even more certain but never fact proof? That's it.
Then in the past, it is extremely likely that changes
nightclub extremely Lackland system for the past half an
hour. And surely are due to human influence. And it should
serve as yet another wake up call that our activities today,
by
by the way, that is the line John Kerry used another wake up
call. So the talking points of propagating will have an
impact on society, not only for us but for many generations to
come. multiple lines of evidence confirm that the X ray being
trapped by the greenhouse gases is indeed warming the Earth
atmosphere, the Earth's surface, the oceans, rising sea levels,
melting icecaps glaciers, but we are also changing and this is a
particular constant to my organization, the change in
weather patterns and extreme events such as heat waves,
droughts, floods. And that was hard sounds exciting I did in
the recent WMO report on the global climate for the last for
the decade 2001 to 2010.
This is very interesting, he says, The W M O, which is the
World Meteorological Organization. So, you know,
that's actually puts the IPCC together with support from the
United Nations. So it's really a bunch of weathermen.
The working group one report provides new insight into the
possible future occurrences of these
possible future occurrences possible of these
events that we are now witnessing on a regular basis.
Many of the extremes of the last decade were unprecedented. And
the report highlights which one are likely to become even more
more frequent. The decade 2001 2010 was the warmest on
record, aha, continuing the trend of global warming, more
natural, more temperature record, were broken than in any
other previous decade.
Now, this is all disputable. And I don't want to get into this.
But we have Dr. Easterbrook, we have all kinds of competing data
on this, but we'll just let it go for now.
Of course, and that is discussed in great detail in the report,
the rate of increase would have been even higher if it was not
for the relative cooling, oh, fronts of lung year event and
the role of deep ocean in absorbing in absorbing the heat.
So this is kind of the fun thing about this report. Is that in
the report, there is an admission that Yeah, well, yeah,
it's been kind of on pause recently, like the past 15
years. But that is just normal variance is how that is
explained in the report. But that doesn't matter because the
key words are global carbon budget, and services
report. Thanks, nice, much. Our scientific knowledge as advanced
since the previous report, six years ago,
ah, you see our science and our art and everything's advanced.
So the stuff we got wrong on the last report, it's better now
because we have better computers.
This is knowledge that can be used that should be used to
produce actionable climate information and service action
to help society. And as many of you know, the United Nations
system is embarked on a major initiative to develop climate
services, which will help makers in all sectors affected by
climate change. Okay.
climate services, John, you can you wait for for the climate
services is going to be
any every socio economic sector to add available information to
make informed decision. This is the development of a global
framework for climate services. And suddenly, it's something
which will have decision making.
Okay, so what he's talking about here at these climate services,
is part of the global carbon budget. And what the IPCC report
claims is that we have there's a budget there's an amount of
carbon and that co2 life itself. That's what I'm exhaling right
now, while I'm talking to you, that can be spewed into the
atmosphere, this dirty, nasty co2 Now only known as carbon.
It's important, these are key things that are taking place
here. And we have a 30 year budget, we've already used 10 of
those 30 years, John. So what are we going to do this this
new? Ah, ah, but let's let's Let's analyze this. Let's
analyze this. Let's say okay, but I got to do it backwards.
First, let's let's let's deal with the, with a warming that
isn't really warming it's cooling. CBS does a valley has
makes a valiant effort to to work on this. This problem as
they talk about another Inconvenient
Truth has emerged on the way to the apocalypse. The new UN
report and I love that opening. By the way, climate change is
expected to blame manmade greenhouse gases more than ever
for global warming. But there's a problem. The global atmosphere
hasn't been warming lately since 1998. While the amount of
greenhouse gases continued to rise, the air temperature
hasn't. However, the apparent pause and global warming is
explained. It makes the task for the world's majority of climate
scientists who urge urgent action now more difficult. For
the skeptics. It's ammunition. This move the sense of urgency.
It has already for Benny Pizer, who heads a climate policy think
tank, the world doesn't need crippling cuts and fossil fuel
use. Are you saying that the measures that are being proposed
for the quite significant reduction in the production of
greenhouse gases are unrealistic, unreachable, wrong?
What do you say they are unrealistic and unreachable. And
whatever happens to the temperature? The climate change
debate is about to heat
up. Okay. So I thought that was interesting that CBS would
actually you know, help us a little bit by giving us some
pieces of the truth. Now, two documents have come out. And
again, the full report 2000 pages will not come out until
sometime next week, which is a great way to market. We have the
headline statements from the summary for policymakers. And
then we have the summary for policymakers itself. That's a 36
page document. Both of these documents have been annotated
highlighted, marked up and you can find them in the show notes
at 552 dot n a show notes.com. Here is the and I could go
through tons of of what's in this document, how they explain
away the natural variants of the cooling, which you could equally
say natural variants of warming, but I guess it only works if
it's cooling. But most importantly, is the scale to
which the IPCC report is grading things that will happen
according to well, what does it actually mean, the working group
assessment considers new evidence of climate change based
on this is what the report is based on many independent
scientific analyses, from observations of the climate
system, paleoclimate archives, theoretical studies of climate
processes, and simulations, simulations using climate
models. So this is this is pretty much based on climate
models on computer simulations, the same ones, that were not
able to predict this warming that we're in. In fact, we're in
a cooling, which is kind of what John and I buy into. And, you
know,
and example, of course, they couldn't predict. And they
relied on the commentary, which you like to harp on, which I
think is wise that British children will never see snow,
only in snow globes and on television. The degree of
certainty and key findings in this assessment is based on the
author team's evaluations of underlying scientific
understanding, and as expressed as qualitative level of
confidence from very low to very high. Now, what this means to
me, John, and correct me if I'm wrong, that this scientific
report is assumptions and confidence. So it's not like,
here's more like
taking one of those telephone poles, you like it very much.
Like you're neutral, do you like it a lot? Do you like it very
much.
So here are the it goes from very low to very high and when
possible, probable probabilistic probabilistically with a
quantified likelihood from exceptionally unlikely to
virtually certain confidence in the validity of a finding is
based on the type, the amount, the quality and consistency of
evidence. And then they talk about the degree of agreement.
So this is the consensus of the scientist is measured in
something they call the degree of agreement. And there's a
footnote. In this summary for policymakers. The following
summary terms are used to describe the available evidence
limited, medium or robust. And for the greater the degree of
agreement, low, medium or high. A level of confidence is
expressed using five qualifiers, very low, low, medium, high,
very high, and typeset. in italics, eg medium confidence.
For a given evidence and agreement statement, different
confidence levels can be assigned, but increasing levels
of evidence and degrees of agreement are correlated. So
what they do so now they're going to break it down into
numbers. And this is where this 95% comes from. This is what I'm
getting to. Unlikely is zero to 33%. Very likely very unlikely
it's like zero to 10% but when it is extremely likely, it's 95
to 100%. So when you see or hear the headline, the scientists and
who scientists, the meteorologists who have
consensus on this report, they are highly confident that it is
very likely that global warming is caused climate climate change
is caused by man. That 95% number is not actually in the
report that is extrapolated from the, quote extremely likely. So
first of all, when someone says 95%, you know, it's it's not in
the report, the number 95% is not in the report, it is
extremely likely is what they said, not 95% of all scientists
agree, no, extremely likely. But here's Connie Hedegaard, the
European Commissioner for climate. And she's going to take
this 95% to a whole new level Canada's
got its diagnosis by the scientific community. And I
would make this parallel. If you as a person got a diagnosis from
doctors who said that with 95% certainty, you are having a very
dangerous disease, would you then do nothing? Or would you
seek a cure? I think the message we have gotten from science
today is it's more important than ever to seek the cure. And
that's, of course, also why in the European Union, we are now
trying to define our targets for the next period, the period up
to 2030.
This woman should be tarred and feathered and rolled in mud. How
can you take what is in this report and say that
she's nuts the planet
got it's, it's it's done disease. Cure. He's alright. So
the report is marked up. There's just tons and tons of, and it's
not even the report. It's the it's the talking points. It's
the for policymakers, they literally explain away this
warming period into just some normal variation, it happens.
You know, we have better climate models. Now. Please don't look
over here. Look over there. And natural anthropogenic manmade
substances and processes that alter the Earth's energy budget.
This is a new one, the Earth's energy budget, our drivers of
climate change. So we have the energy budget, John, and the
climate budget, this is all being put in there to bring it
down to a dumb level. So you can look at your pocketbook, and
like, Oh, I've got a $10 budget for today. So I kind of
understand the concept of budget. Now while this is going
on this ludicrous stuff, which in and you know, and of course,
all these people are in on it when you get like this weather
man, you know, I'm not going to fly anymore. I'm not going to
have children great, fine. I had dinner. What was it? Was it
Thursday night, Friday night with Eric Groden. And his wife
now we've had dinner with them before. And we kind of met them
somewhere at some at some event here in Austin, like almost like
two years ago. And they were kind of interesting people. And
they had an interesting story. And so we had dinner once and
you know, didn't really, but I remember this guy was doing I
couldn't quite remember what he was doing. But he was he's, he's
a lawyer, and he is an environmental lawyer. But not
the kind you'd expect. In fact, he probably should not talk too
much about what he does in within the city limits of
Austin. Because He is suing the EPA. And hit it and we're very
hopeful that his case will come before the Supreme Court. That
announcement will come tomorrow or Tuesday. And I have gotten
such an education from him on what is really taking place
behind the scenes while this report is going to be the
headline. The lawsuit is I see he's actually did he was
representing the was it the Coalition for Responsible
regulation Inc. But they ran out of money, he said, but he's just
doing it on his own dime now because he thinks it's so
important, versus the versus the EPA. And it is a simple
question. And this course is all about the Clean Air Act. Because
what is taking place right now is the Environmental Protection
Agency is has huge power by being able to regulate life
itself. The carbon, carbon dioxide. So remember when we
talked on Thursday about Bill Gates, we have to get carbon
dioxide down to zero that would basically mean that we're not
exhaling that we're all dead.
Right? Yes, indeed.
So the Environmental Protection Agency is allowed to make laws
to regulate. Yeah, sure its cars than its factories. But
eventually, at what point does it come down to? Well, Dvorak,
you are about 30 pounds overweight, you know, you're
breathing too heavily. Do you think that could happen John or
am I just am I just like off, I'm
actually going to I would be stunned if at some point, they
didn't start charging you airfares based on your weight,
which always made more sense to me a lot of sense. But whether
they're going to start, I think I'm down on the list here when
they started pulling that stunt.
So there was a very important case, which was Massachusetts
versus the EPA. So I think in 2007, and which we missed
totally, of course, and in that case, the EPA was ruled in their
favor. And the Supreme Court ruled that carbon dioxide is a
poisonous gas deadly to human life. Which is weird. But you
know, okay, so that happened that, you know, that is now the
case. And you take the Clean Air Act, Clean Air Act, which was,
well, it's from, like, 63. But in 1970, it was reinvigorated.
And it was Nixon, I think, who passed that right. Now,
President Nixon was president, he signed it into law. And
section 202 of that is specifically about the amount of
emissions that automobiles can have, which has, without a doubt
affected industry and economics in America, due to what? What
cars can emit? Correct?
Yeah, there was a lot of electric cars were basically,
polluters,
sure they were. But the question is, and this is the question
presented that hopefully will come before the Supreme Court.
And I'm quoting from the document here, whether the Clean
Air Act, and this Court's decision in Massachusetts versus
EPA, prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency from
considering whether regulations addressing greenhouse gases
under Section 202 of the act, would meaningfully meaningfully
mitigate the risks identified as the basis for their adoption. In
other words, if the Environmental Protection Agency
says, You can't divorce back, you have to pay more, because
you're too heavy to fly and you too much carbon you're using,
does the EPA have to be able to prove that it actually is going
to help or damage life in general or the citizens based
upon what the regulations are putting out there?
Well, that was a complex thing to try to figure out.
But it's really interesting. It well,
maybe, you know, explain it a little better.
Okay, so I am true. In other words,
what I hear I gotta hear is all I want to know what happened in
Massachusetts,
in Massachusetts versus the EPA, the it was determined that
carbon dioxide is deadly. It's a point it's a poisonous gas, it
is an evil, evil, evil gas,
and so on. So
the question is, doesn't does a department like the
environmental be
asked this question, okay, I'm getting it. Let me ask this
question of I would say I wonder, especially about the
attorney you're talking about, it seems to me that if he's
taking this case on pro bono it belies the common I'd say
perhaps misconception or commonplace that the oil
industry is behind all of this why doesn't the oil industry
pony up his fees?
Well, it's funny because I said Why doesn't the nuclear energy
nuclear why didn't the nuclear go that's only a better use
either one and he said, No, no, they're all on board they want
carbon to be evil because they have no carbon emission. He says
the nuclear guys they love it
don't make sense. No, they not so much the oil guys
know so I think he's just a bad sales guy. I just think like the
whatever I'm sure it was a an oil company that was paying or
some collection and I think there's nine other similar
lawsuits, but his seems to be the most concise and they ran
out of money like I don't know six months ago or whatever. So
he just I just got to finish this but I like what I like
about it is is the question to try and simplify it. Can the
government make a rule without knowing if it's actually going
to have a positive effect? Because that's what's that's
what's happening sure they can
you well, really don't yet after the laws that are passed it put
up you know, they put a they have an accident prone corner so
they put a red light He put up some traffic seals they don't.
Right. No, no, but that's I think it's different. If you
have an accident prone corner, then you've had accidents take
place there. We haven't actually died from global warming yet
with the tidal wave hasn't actually hit us yet. I have not
burned to a crisp yet.
No, but Superstorm Sandy has ravaged No, no. The
problem is
there's evidence all around as you're just blind to it. But
even the reports killing us here's
the point the the report from The Meteorological Society from
the same guy who predicts the weather for you on television.
Think about that. They won't even say fact 100%. They won't
even say that very likely. Extremely probable, pretty much
lots of confidence. Come on. Will someone please just say
that the emperor has no clothes?
Well, I think people have been trying to say that, but
nobody's, for some reason the agenda is such that that is not
acceptable. Anyway, I'm not absolutely sure. I'm actually
somewhat baffled by the way this debate has gone since its
inception. I mean, well, it's because
no one actually wants to stand up and say, yeah, totally. I'm
all in. Where's that guy from the report that comes along and
says I was the guy that said 100%? Certainly Sure.
James Hansen. Who was that? James Hansen is the guy who
invented this whole thing.
James Hansen, why do I not why does this name not ring no
bells.
It should be ringing a bell because we talk to him every
week or talk to him. We talk about him every so often. He's
the NASA guy who dreamed up the entire global warming thing.
He's the one with the first evidence he is the he's patient
zero. That's the fact. And he's the guy who's who does do what
you just said he has said this. He's the one he's the Chicken
Little he's the one who's really gotten everybody all worked up.
And he's been very effective at it.
Well, why isn't he out there right now? I don't see him on TV
and on the TV.
He's got the thing going on. He doesn't need to do anything.
He's got to in fact, I have a clip about him. Oh, good. He's
now where's my clip list?
Where's the clip list?
Here it is. See what is the sketchy letter to Ecuador. This
is where James Hansen has ended up he's now become a big shot.
And he's hanging out with the these other replayed this clip
you'll see what I'm talking about?
Well, environmentalists Vandana Shiva, Naomi Klein, the
scientist James Hansen and others recently wrote an open
letter to President Korea asking him to not forsake the
initiative. The letter read in part quote, along with 1000s of
other world citizens, we look to the asuni itt initiative as a
pioneering step in the international struggle for a
post fossil fuel civilization. We have been inspired by the
determination of the Ecuadorian public to rejuvenate the
initiative following your government's recent decision to
abandon it. accordingly. We're extremely concerned at reports
that your government is attempting to repress the voices
of the majority of Ecuadorians who continue to support the
Sunni proposal. We understand that efforts are underway to
block a public referendum on the question, that press freedom is
being curtailed and that students exercising their right
of dissent are being threatened with expulsion from their
schools. That's what the letter to cut a read. I asked Ecuador's
Foreign Minister Ricardo PITINO to respond to the letter. Yeah.
So Hansen has moved on. Yeah, these other things. He's now you
know, hanging out with Naomi Klein Big Shot, big shot. And so
they're now they're making a stink because Ecuador has
decided and this is kind of on topic. Ecuador has decided that
look, there's we it turns out, we got a bunch of oil and under
our couple of our state parks, essentially, and we're going to
drill it out because it's gonna we have it set up so we have a
national oil company that will give you the money, put the
money back into the public coffers, they haven't quite sold
out completely to the economic hitman. Oh, they're gonna this
is gonna happen eventually. But this is kind of a step in the
right direction for the economic hitman. But whatever the case
is, Ecuador, and they the answer was, look, we've got this oil.
We're poor, a poor country. We need the money. Yeah, that's it.
There's no more to it. So we were not going to put up with
this. And we made the offer. This is a part of an offer that
Ecuador said to the world. We won't drill into this little
park of ours which is a Amazonian you know, Park with
the 100,000 species of life and lots of plants. When we won't do
it, if you guys bought if you guys give us the money we would
have been making and they got nothing. Nobody gave him a
nickel. They got like 2 million dollars out of the 5 billion
they needed so
screw you that run through the Clinton Foundation is that how
that said maybe?
So they said screw it we're gonna drill and we're going to
take the money and run and and we're not going to wreck the
park we're gonna get it's gonna be all you know, angled stuff
and hopefully none of it will splurt out which course there
always does happen, but maybe not I mean, there's plenty of
clean wells around the world. It's not like they're there's
millions of wells and not a mitt that many are spewing out goo,
whatever the case is. So Johansson, Naomi Klein and a
bunch of other do gooders are trying to tell people how to run
their lives. And it's like, they said, No, we're not gonna do it.
And so what's her name? Amy goes down to Ecuador and meets or
normies to guide New York at the UN and the guy just says, No,
it's we made the offer. And nobody ponied up. What are we
supposed to do?
Right? So this is the this is the old strategy, the new
strategy? Is the earth is sick. If you were sick, would you do
something about it? The new strategy is the budget, the
budget, we have our our carbon budget. This is to dumb it down.
So stupid slaves and human resources can understand you
have a budget, you're 1/3 through the budget, how old are
you you're 20. So by the time you're 60, you're going to be
debt. So this is you, you and your kids will be 20 in debt. So
this is the budget you have. And what we need to do is we need to
price price carbon and once the price and we already know what
was what does the IMF what are they set it at like 27 bucks per
ton or something, something like that.
Something where someone can make money. And in fact, don't get
over this fact that this was cap and trade is all part of the
scam to create an exchange so Al Gore can make money on the on on
transaction fees. This is bullcrap. It's so obvious
because it's this money is a money scam. It's a money grab.
If you look at the independent, who analyzed the report, their
headline I liked the financial markets are the only hope in the
race to stop global warming. Yeah, that's exactly that's
exactly the point. That is it. And this was a great article. By
the way. The financial markets are humanity's only hope in the
Bible against global warming. The world's top climate expert
declared.
That's a showery Yeah, he's probably in one of these scam
we know he's in on the scam we've already seen his other
companies and all that other crap. So the no agenda thesis
I'll speak on behalf of John he can interrupt me if he wish
wishes. Climate change definitely happening. Global
warming clearly not happening. global cooling clearly happening
been warned about since the 70s. This is to kill people. Everyone
will be ready for what's going to be so hot, we'll get to get
air conditioners and for cooling and really all kinds of things.
We'll get speedos and crocs when you really need heaters, and fur
coats and you need to be ready for the global cooling. So the
end result will be exactly what is is desired is the calling of
stupid people.
Let's read another tweet from from Eric Holthaus. Please
note winnaman We should be like here's another tweet from Eric
Holthaus.
Things scientists are less sure of then climate change. One
cigarettes kill two vitamins are healthy. And three, the age of
the universe. Those are three things that scientists are less
sure of than climate change.
Another tweet from Eric Holthaus Yeah, so be prepared for the
onslaught the onslaught of how you are you are denying science
how you are stupid. I wonder what do you think do you think
they can pull it off this time because I think this is kind of
the last shot they have is this they
don't have a lot of time left because things are starting to
turn around because of the you know, whatever is the sun or I
mean they've they've negated any possibility all of the Sun has
been changing the weather on a 22 year pattern forever.
That's actually it's actually in the report. They say part of the
reason why it hasn't been warming up as much is because of
the 11 year solar cycle. Right like yeah, the sun is kind of
the thing that keeps the Earth warm or not it's just nuts. And
of course, there'll be even more initiative by the way and push
to call people out as deniers this will be
Wow, this is not this is getting a little old. So
yeah, I don't know. I mean, you Am I, I'm going to have a dinner
pretty soon and I'm going to be sitting there. I'm going to say,
look, I'm, well, I'm actually I'm going to ask the professor
I'm going to say, when you have a report, do you always report
stuff? Like, likely? Kinda, maybe you should you should have
very likely high confidence or do you say fact?
Let me read another tweet.
From Eric Holthaus. Yes. Oh, very nice. Hold on a second.
Another tweets from Eric Holthaus.
One long haul flight equals switching from a Camry to a
Prius. One long haul flight equals eating vegan for a year.
Oh, wow. Another tweet from Eric Holthaus. Really? How does he
calculate that?
He's got computers. Okay.
I was oh, I am the two things one. If Eric's case comes before
the Supreme Court, he'll let me carry his briefcase. Oh, you're
gonna go?
No. Yeah, he says that he doesn't come along. Come along,
carry the briefcase and watch all these people Yak.
How awesome would that be? It'd be very awesome. To be
would be number one. Awesome. Yeah.
To be in the Supreme Court. That's pretty cool. As an
associate,
and one of the justices gonna say, Hey, Adam curry from him
TV.
Oh, yeah, that would be pretty bad. And you know, it would be
it'd be Ginsburg. It begins verse khidki. Kiki Ginsburg.
That's that's her nickname.
While I was researching some stuff, I fell into something
interesting. You know, because we have all these, I kind of got
to it. We have all these light bulbs and this new you know,
energy saving carbon save the Earth sickness expensive light
bulbs. That how long does it How long does the light bulb last?
What are these? These newfangled things? How long are they
supposed to last?
What else led not the LEDs? Now the
ones that we were all forced to buy
all those fluorescent things? I'll tell you something. I think
they're a scam. Okay, yeah, I'll tell you why they do blow out
well, before they're supposed to, they get dim. They have to
be warmed up a certain way. When you first get them even though
supposedly the new ones don't need that. I've my experiences,
they all need it. And if you light one of them up, especially
when they're older, you can see it you can actually look at it.
And then about a half an hour later, it's really bright.
Have you ever heard of the Livermore light bulb?
The Livermore light bulbs that oh, that's yes. deliver more
light bulb is, I believe one of Thomas Edison's light bulbs from
the 1800s or the early 1900s. That has been burning consider
forever. It added at a firehouse in Livermore,
Livermore, California, the bulb has been burning for I think 110
years nonstop. And and if you research the Livermore light
bulb and how is how is it possible? You will quickly
discover the Phoebus cartel pH o e b u s the Phoebus cartel and
these were the was like Philips and Osram and all the light bulb
companies got together and said, Here's an idea. Why don't we
make it so that light bulbs will never last longer than 3000
hours. And and then they had another meeting and they said
crap, let's make it 1000 hours because the 3000 hours is too
long. And they built in what is now of course, used very
successfully and I'm not against this by the way for a number of
reasons. Planned obsolescence and light bulbs can you can
engineer light bulb that will work for 100 years?
Yes, you can. In fact, I have bulbs that have lasted forever.
And they were always specialty bulbs. They cost a lot of money
when they last and last and last. Yeah. Now with the LEDs
coming out we do have the opportunity to actually end this
whole at Planned Obsolescence things because an LED will use
less energy at some point and they're still at the crossover
point right now less energy than any fluorescent bulb and lasts
for 25 years. And they give a nice light to
the problem of course is that this the idea of planned
obsolescence, I think that actually runs a lot of our
economy. You know, this is why you know, iPhones fall apart.
This is why cars fall apart there tonight. Well
here's the deal. The problem with a light bulb planned
obsolescence in today's world is now the incandescent bulbs even
though they're trying to bound he really can't do it. But they
there you can get it for 25 cents so it's not like he's
gonna do that much do you produce change a few bulbs, but
you take a five or $600 product like an iPhone and the thing
lasts one year Jaycees, for example, those little bit a
little on off button does
the home button, the home button breaks? Yeah, the home button
just doesn't work. And the phone is and pin to iPhone users, they
buy a new phone every year or two, probably about once every
two years. Yeah, and this is a big ticket item and they sell
them by the millions. I think that the I think the idea is
sound, but it doesn't work with a light bulb anymore. So they're
bailing on the light bulb, because it's just a to bid item,
right? And they're making you buy expensive LEDs, which are
not cheap. And then they just gave up on that market. And
we're moved on to some
more. Well, that was 100 year old idea. And you know, we've
got to move on to something else. But what's interesting is
and there's a movie called the light bulb conspiracy, I'll put
it in the show notes. You can actually it's like a like an
hour long documentary and they talk about this. But I think
this plan that which there was a guy at one point at the turn of
the century, who wanted to present this as the it actually
was the recession, the depression the Great Depression,
to in order to get America out. His idea was essentially planned
obsolescence, which I think we have slipped into more not
because the government has pushed it on us or on
manufacturing, but because manufacturing has figured out
Hey, or you know, it's easy to trick these stupid slaves into
buying stuff by making television and that, you know,
advertising in general making it look really sexy, and you don't
want to be the loser, right? The television. This my dad bullying
people, and you're essentially being bullied into it,
but especially with phones, yeah, but you have what
if that went away, if we'd made products that lasted forever,
you would have to kill off half the population? Because we
wouldn't have this continuous work force making new crap.
Well,
what's interesting to me is that solid state stuff I always
thought when it when it first started to appear that it was
going to because the olden days when I was a little kid, they
used to television sets were tubes. My dad would take the
tubes out, put them in a bag, some tube series of tubes is a
whole bunch of tubes and you take them put them in a bag or a
tube testing plate. Oh, this one of the tubes is no good. You
have to buy a tube and there was you know, and it's happened on a
couple month basis as you're watching these TVs, you blew a
tube Ivana you get tubes, you get new tubes, so you get these
tubes so then solid state came around and the solid state had
no filaments it wasn't gonna blow up like a tube and you
think things are gonna last but now it's turns out that very few
things last for more and it's always about the same and here's
the story I have. So my M audio device blew up after about five
years of use the one I was using I have a new one now and it was
about five and it blew up on it while I was doing a DA now
when they blew up was this like an actual explosion with their
flash just stopped working okay, so it's just stopped working
right?
So I had this situation with the with Comcast which we discussed
in the last show. And so they said so I ended up I don't know
why I didn't do this years ago which is buy your own modem and
you save five bucks or seven bucks a month and the fees they
charge you so I got myself a nice Motorola
Are you on the Comcast connection today? No, no, we're
gonna test that after the show. I was gonna say I'm not gonna
dynamite Okay,
on real No, this is DSL. But we will test it after the show. So
So I got a new DOCSIS modem, DOCSIS three modem from
Motorola. And I put it online because the tech guy who came
over said, I don't know why you're releasing this modem. You
should be you should go no, no. He
said First he said, Man, I read all your das books.
was so he because we asked what I did I still remember it go
Whoa,
did you say I do a podcast?
I'm a podcast. Anyway, yeah, whatever. He said that the air
is modems that the typical ones that you get from Comcast, they
go out every five years. Right on right on cue. Yeah, the first
thing I thought to myself was that's exactly what happened
with my M audio device. And actually, I think I've gone
through two of them until I changed the model number which
is a five year process so so this even though it's a longer
period than a few more than a year or so like a light bulb.
These why are these things blowing up
at all? Yeah, there is no reason there are low power solid state
they run off a USB power. They got nothing going on. It's not
like high voltage and they blowing up every five years. Why
planned obsolescence apparently. In fact, this show will self
destruct
well will we don't think some producers die. Yes, exactly.
I'm gonna show my son little By donating to no agenda, Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Tomorrow
you have some producers to thank Lincoln Millwood to oh I'm
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Put it all together. No Fein. Yes. And
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Australia, please never, never knew he does have a note I
should read Carl Drake from FEMA Region down under would like to
d do shard dad Warren on a 63rd birthday doesn't take much to
bring him on board. But our mother Yvonne will still need a
few more good punches in the mouth.
You've been de Deus. We do not encourage punching moms in the
mouth on the no agenda show. But I was
wondering why you listen to this show. I don't think we're
unreasonable. Maybe we're a little too entertaining. But I
don't understand why people reject what we're saying. It's
not that we're Oh stuff up. No,
it's the programming. It's it's you know, you know how on
Windows, sometimes you want to get out of something you do Ctrl
Alt Delete, and you have to hold it down the whole time. You know
it because it doesn't I guess Yeah, it's the Internet if
someone it's funny, let me just let me just find the email and
we'll get back to the back to the thank yous. The concept was
I'm gonna just see that we are consistently under elf
programming Syrett think about it. But you know, but but you
can disconnect and see what happens when people go nuts is
because there's like a like a little blip in the in the
system, you know, kind of like remote. Like your modem doesn't
work for a moment there or whatever. And, but once you're
out once you once you have trained yourself to opt out,
like I have opted out. Once you're there, then you can you
can stay out but go ahead and sit down in front of the
television and you'll see what happens. You've seen it happen,
John, you actually you had this experience yourself. you'd read
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interesting note Baron Jeffrey Guerlain Baron Jeffrey Gerlach.
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Lincoln No, I didn't know what you're talking about. You must
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Michael, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, now it's not Yo Mike
Winnipeg, Manitoba. 6969 He, by the way, I'm gonna put this I'm
gonna read this out. He's calling out Steve as a douchebag
because he's been listening longer than I and has not
donated. Steve, wherever you are, Steve. Yo, yo, yes, Miko,
yo, John strada. I think he's a knight. Pasadena, California,
Sir John, is that right? The internet's broke. I had trouble
connecting to PayPal from your website last week. Well,
internet is broken.
That's because of the background connection.
Liam Forbes Fairbanks, Alaska, Ken O'Rourke, ups and that was
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Can O'Rourke has a 6666 and these are these following people
are all 6666 donors to help us celebrate with a second six is
our anniversary coming up in a few weeks? That's sir Joe, let
me just start with Ken O'Rourke. Then Sir Joe Wagner, Roth Lerman
or lemon layman. layman, as in layman brothers, David Xin
Chicago, Illinois. layman is in Switzerland
layman. Let's read his note here. I think it's time to pull
up a new black chair to the round table. I made it to
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be sitting on the evergrowing table of the Distinguished
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Oh,
yeah, he's on the list. Yeah.
All right, so we're knighting him today night. Yeah.
All right, good. David Xin in Chicago, Illinois with a
birthday shout out. We have it on the list, Sam Harrelson and
Columbia, South Carolina. Brian curry, apparently a relative of
yours in Canal BC. That's right. I like saying canal Mark Hyman
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I love how everyone's using the sack of sixes meme and these
notes that's really cool.
And that goes the spreadsheet. Would I just say,
Israel Cazares and Houston Texas which is not right up the road
from me.
It is if you live long enough, but I'd
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that everywhere I go I hit people in the mouth. Oh, I know
that everywhere I go I hit people in the mouth. I guess
that says dictation stuff stuff or whatever. It didn't give
him a karma.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
Thank you very much sir
Pat dairy in Sarnia. Ontario wants karma and we have to give
him karma because he's a knight. Absolutely. You've got karma.
Nellas Garling jewelry if I'm not mistaken as a knight in
Sunnyside. New York. Elise guard lease. Ellis. Yeah.
At least is our Elise is our limoncello bib.
Right. Yeah. The lemon shell is delicious. By the way,
Sunnyside, New York and she wants to give Carmen Eric the
shell. Yeah.
No, he can. He can suck off the karma at the end.
Andrew Kirby in Covington, Louisiana. I'm sure he'll
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Ortner. Isn't that that's a celebrity.
Eric ordinary is a celebrity in Sioux Center, Iowa.
Eric Ortner. Is he's an actor. He might
be but I can't imagine him living in Sioux Center Iowa.
Erik Ortner Oh, hold on a second. No. Eric Ortner. This is
how I know about him. Here IMDB. He didn't leave. I think he's an
he's an ABC executive producer. For 2020. Yeah, and and The
Early Show and Good Morning America.
And he probably does a probably has the apartment in New York, I
would guess. Yeah, you think okay, well, Hello, Eric. Famous
or not? Thank you, James. How you're famous to us. Double
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and I'd like to revisit Jacqueline Champlain's email
thanks to you. My husband punched me in the mouth. By the
way, we've never actually advocated the punching of people
in the mouth. It is go out, propagate the formula we hit
people in the mouth, but okay. My husband punched me in the
mouth. I wanted to it sounds great. What is this show?
Can you imagine somebody picking this stuff up finding these old
spreads? These people are advocating violence. I can't
believe them up.
They were really violent back in the 2000s. Thank you. My husband
punched me in the mouth and wanted to give him a birthday
shout out I'd love it if Adam could read this in his smooth
Delilah casting voice.
And read it says I love you more than words can say let's hit it.
All right, I'm just getting ready for it. I love you more
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buzzkill Happy Birthday. You know what I'll do to you later?
I think her voice is better than I haven't even heard quite
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Warren turning 63 Davidson is also congratulating his imminent
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ordered some more ring. Oh, really? Not a NINE and a half's.
Yeah, really? Yeah. That's what happens.
Well, you're in charge of all that. I don't I don't ride on
roll on
part of the period, you know.
Oh, I'm little bullying action for you today, John.
Well, first, I would like to read one last tweet.
Wait one second. Hold on a second. Another tweet from Eric
Holthaus.
This is a retweet, oh, whoa, which is prefaced by fully
agree. And the tweet is all evidence points to current
economy as dependent on destruction of the planet.
Another tweet from Eric Holthaus. That's right. In fact,
this podcast can only be successful if we destroy the
planet. Yes. Give me a tweet on that thing.
Brand new John brand new to the table on our bullying. Sibling
bullying.
Oh, well, that's common. Yeah, I saw some kid beaten up as a
little brother the other
day it has to be addressed now. Sibling bullying.
They should arrest the parents and put the kids in foster care.
Well, let's read. Let's see. That's great. Sibling bullying
is a type of violence that is prevalent in the lives of most
children, but little is known about it. Yes. Robin Kowalski
has done an entire load without it. No little is known about it.
We have not done a report on it. But Robin cloud Kowalski has and
she says the phenomenon has long been overlooked. 75% of
participants in the study reported being bullied by a
sibling 85% reported bullying as a sibling. My goodness, this has
to stop. I agree. I think we need to arrest the parents. You
bully a willow. Oh, I bought no Tiffany. I really bullied her.
Tiffany. Yeah. She's the one who doesn't donate to the show. And
now you know why?
I Really bullied her actually, I believe them both, but only once
and for a year and then that ended. Guy I was actually I
wasn't building I was blackmailing them. You want to?
You want to hear?
Yeah, this is a story everyone is well worth.
Okay, so there was a store in the town that we lived in called
The the porcelain closet. And they had they sold porcelain,
flatware. And porcelain flatware.
Not flatware but you know, like dishes and stuff. Oh, yeah.
Plates. Yeah. And so for my mom's birthday, Tiffany and
Willow had stolen some plates from the porcelain. Oh, no. And
they had given those plates my mom for a birthday. And I
somehow I'd found out about it. And I decided I was going to use
this to my advantage. And all I had to know how
old were you?
1413 1413 Okay,
the kids are how old a sister a nine and 11 at the time, and
they managed to steal. Oh, yeah. God, well, it
was an easy steal. Which I was. I found out about it. I don't
know. It was an easy one. I think I was probably I was
probably casing the joint when it's easy to steal stuff here.
And then I found out they'd already done it. And but I was
curious, because like, how did you guys get the money for these
plates? So for a kid you not for a year, whenever I wanted
something, or one my own way, or what I just looked at them I go
like, and I'd whisper plates. In Dutch, actually, which was
border, I just say border border plates. And for a year until
they until finally they couldn't stand it anymore. And they and
they went to my mom and said look, you know we stole these
plates. But Adams been blackened for a year. That was an let me
say that was the that was the end of my blackmailing career.
The place eventually got paid for them.
Oh, yeah, they got paid for and I'd never ever ever blackmailed
anyone again. That was That's
good. That's the good security. But that's how it all worked
out. Yeah. Nowadays, you'd probably have been thrown in
jail. My parents would have been thrown in jail for being a
bully. Yeah. And your parents had been thrown in jail for
receiving stolen goods.
But we now have several initiatives calling all parents
is cap is the latest one. They have a whole website and all
kinds of cool stuff here. Is there a public service
announcement which I wanted to share with
you limited to just the school yard? Or the classroom and
everyone, even the teachers? You're not invited somewhere
else? It follows your kids everywhere. Garbage. And it
never takes a break. People just like you I heard
the things you're hearing here in this really poorly produced
PSA. I've heard all of these things when I was in school.
Yeah, of course. Everybody has anybody normal? Yeah, it's like,
you know, they only pretend they like you. Oh, I hear he eats his
lunch.
I still hear that.
Yeah. Oh, believe me. It's true
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Okay, so the East Yeah, exactly. II city. Well, it's a foundation
that doesn't exist on record. As far as I can tell. I could not
find any entry no form 990 securing our E city sponsored by
E set e s e t, which is essentially like a, you know, a
McAfee type outfit. This is just the beginning people, just the
beginning of the cybersecurity state that you're going to be
lured into, it's going to be Oh, so incredibly important to be
safe, and you don't want to be bullied and you have to have all
kinds of protection as just the beginning.
That's a depressing little side note. No, not
really. It's kind of cool. I got a lot of emails about I think
about Bill Gates. And I was reminded that his dad was one of
a he was I think he was on the board but for a certain point he
was in the top management of Planned Parenthood. Did you know
that?
I don't know that. I have no idea that that's true.
Yes, in fact, in a match tried to get the video from this. This
in 2003 on an interview with Bill Moyers, Bill Gates says
when I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in
various volunteer, we're all almost always involved in
various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood.
And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so
it's fascinating at the dinner table. My parents are very good
at sharing things like that. Blah, blah, blah. I tried to get
the video of this, but guess what, 2003 guess what format the
video was in real? Yes. I even downloaded the real player to
try. It never works. Oh, well. Now on my computer, like I've
got all kinds of stuff popping up. And you know, I got all
that.
Oh, yeah. No real player is just just spyware. So if you go into
the history, and not the recent history, but like, the real
history of Planned Parenthood, guess what you run into pretty
quickly. Mark?
Yeah, Sanger? Who, who's a eugenicist? She wants to kill
Yes, exactly. He's the one who found it it just plan like you
know this this guy Eric Holthaus. In Yeah, all in
cutting my nuts off. So
here is a brief reading of one of Margaret singers notes from
early on about eugenics. Now eugenics as we've discussed on
this program, many times, it's not just something that that
Alex Jones yells about on his show it eugenics society was
real.
And when the EU and the US have a we are the ones who pretty
much promoted it. The Nazis took all their stuff from us. Yes, we
were the kings of this we were this in time and motion studies
and all this other kind of really dehumanizing approach to
management and the
main and yes and the main issue at hand was we need to have no
invalid so if you know if you're if you got Tourette's or
something like that, you know basically we don't want you to
procreate we won't kill you. We just don't want you to make more
of you. And oh yeah, if you're black, this is a real problem
because you humped like bunnies and make lots of you but you're
clearly inferior singers
admiration for the eugenics programs of Nazi Germany were
well known at the time. In 1933, the birth control review
published eugenic sterilization, an urgent need by Ernst Rutan,
who was Hitler's director of genetic sterilization, and the
founder of the Nazi society for Racial Hygiene. In her praise
for the eugenics programs in Germany. Sanger called for the
implementation of such programs in the United States,
specifically targeting African Americans. The following
editorial was published in the 1932 issue of the birth control
review.
The Negro Problem is one of the most complicated and important
confronting America, what ever the ultimate answer may be, such
an attitude brings to life, the function of birth control, as a
necessary agency in its solution. The present submerge
condition of the Negro is due in large part to the high fertility
of the race and disastrously adverse circumstance, bus, the
question arises, to what extent birth control has had a eugenic
effect upon the Negro race,
if any questions should remain about singers racist agenda, a
1939 letter she wrote to Dr. Clarence gamble should remove
all doubt,
we should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably
with social service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities,
the most successful educational approach to the Negro is through
a religious appeal.
Oh, that's just a little bit of the thinking at the time. And I
thought it was kind of interesting to have this is from
a documentary or short documentary that I found. But
yeah, if you look at what the eugenics society was, and I've
put all these links for you in the show notes,
especially for your kids in high school, if you want to write an
interesting paper, yes, these notes something Yes. Or are you
get
well, here's, here's what I wanted to point out. So
eugenics, genetics, eugenics, there was no there was a society
and I'm going to wager that there still is a lot of
thinking, just from the way we listen to what Bill Gates says
he is doing is I'm trying to have less people on the earth he
says he's doing it through vaccines, and it's a very
complicated way of saying because people will not die the
people will make like to die
on us. Yeah. So so but he is
in we're gonna kill them. It is kind of the same theory. Is
eugenics it's the still the same basic idea. Here's what I want
you to be cognizant of. When you sign up for 23 and me and you
get on your little, you know, social network and sharing, you
know, your little genetic defects. Be wary as to who else
has that information and at some point in the future, Bill Gates
might be going well, no, we really no one we think this is
dangerous.
Yeah, I wonder how he feels about it. The genetics in him
that you could apparently as Parkinson's. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
It's a little known but just somewhat publicized.
Does he have Parkinson's? Yeah,
he's got Parkinson's.
Well, not severe yet. I mean, no, no, it does all the really
has. So that's fact. Apparently, yes. Well, then we have to do
away with him. Well, I
mean, by the rules.
opting out of Parkinson's, by the way,
good Gates was born, Dad. Yeah, it's born in Bremerton. They're
all no Seattleites William Henry Gates the third. Or the second
is his name. He was actually an Eagle Scout, which is nothing to
sneeze at, to be honest about. I've only known one personally.
Or maybe a couple. So he was a boy scout a Boy Scout. And then
he went he enlisted in the US Army changed his name to William
Gates, Jr. To avoid the appearance of elitism,
which he basically was. Yeah, elitist. Yeah.
He was on the board of Planned Parenthood, there's no evidence
that he ran it.
Well, I'm just I'm only saying what Bill Gates himself said.
Yeah. Well, you know, they were they like to exaggerate. Make
your parents more important than an AR I
think being on the board is not necessarily non trivial. It's
not like you don't have anything to say,
on the board of Costco. Bow. And the founding co chair of the
Pacific health summit. Gates, his co author with Chuck Collins
of the book wealth in our commonwealth, why America should
tax accumulated fortunes, a defense of the policies promoted
by the estate tax. How about the wealth tax? Isn't that what he's
taught? Me? Anyway, okay.
Anyway, so he point yeah, my point is, don't be so happy
about your your genetic makeup and sharing that with everybody.
Yeah, just you know, at least just don't give it to Bill
Gates.
Right. I would say that's true. Oh, don't have a clip from last
show. I wanted to play. Okay. This is the Obama on guns.
Oh, already, it ought to be a shock to all of us, as a nation
and as a people, it ought to obsess us, it ought to lead to
some sort of transformation. That's what happened in other
countries when they experienced similar tragedies in the United
Kingdom. And Australia. When just a single mass shooting
occurred in those countries, they understood that there was
nothing ordinary about this kind of carnage, they endured great
heartbreak, but they also mobilized and they changed
Did you edit that?
No, it was edited pre edited by somebody else. So this all came
after the shotgunning of those people in the Navy base. I want
to ask you a question about that. So um, and it seems to me
as though Says Joe Biden has promoted shotguns Yes. And
shotguns are never discussed in any of this gun control stuff
right is I don't get the disconnect. Guy comes in with a
shotgun starts blowing people up so they go right back into this
hand gun control thing as if there was a connection. There is
no connection.
Well, here's the thing that bothers me. Have you seen the
video? They've released the video
and you see a pretty guy sneaking around. Yeah, so let me
get Solera Okay, so
first you see your Prius driving into a garage? Oh, my God, that
is so scary. And then you see the guy he has no backpack? I
mean, how did he shoot off 4050 rounds Where's all the ammo?
That thing take those guys ready to take seven shells? Seven
shells? Yeah. Where's all this is bullshit.
He didn't have your right didn't have a bag. He didn't have a
belt with a bunch of bullets.
In fact you don't even see him shooting that shotgun in the
video you only see him like walking around ooh
yeah why is why is there no shots of him over the gun
actually discharging and
Why is every news report when when every page it's like oh,
this is chilling video? No, it's not. It's some doofus running
around with a sawed off shotgun with nothing. You're not
shooting anybody? This he has no he has no huge stash of ammo.
Why is no it's almost like the the video of the Sarnath
brothers you know putting you know there is this video and of
them putting the backpacks into the garbage can no once seen it,
but it exists. Oh, it's too secret is too shocking for you
to see it I guess
what? Yeah, it was No, it wouldn't be shocking in the
least. It's like where's the video of Osama bin Laden being
tossed off the boat?
How about this one? Now this is Rachel Mad Cow, I dice tried to
stay away from playing clips of her.
You've been, by the way, I'm gonna stop you right here. You
condemned me about a year ago for playing clips and Rachel
Maddow. And since then you're the only one playing her clips.
This is my evil plan to become more popular than you. I play
this clip because it is such an extreme example of how the media
ties into the lying that it has to be played. There was a
lawsuit about the Sandy Hook 911 calls. As you know, these have
not been released the the there has been a protection airy
measure that they will not be released. There was a lawsuit,
the court finally said, okay, they can be released now they
still have not been released. But the whole idea is is that we
can hear what's on these tapes. Very similar to I don't know,
911 tapes, or we heard those that we heard tapes of calls to
911. From from from people in airplanes, and amazingly enough,
and in office buildings. We've heard those 911 tapes, haven't
we?
We actually heard a very sketchy tape of some guy on the plane
that crashed in Pennsylvania wherever it was. Yeah, that was
shot down according to Rumsfeld. And one of those guys, if you
recall,
yeah, Rumsfeld. We've heard we've heard to his wife
in a situation where I don't think the cell could have gotten
out of there.
That's a different makes no sense. Don't take me Don't take
me down that rabbit hole. Right, please. Okay, so Well, we agree
that 911 tapes have been played all the time. But but we can't
play them from Sandy Hook
on the day of the worst school shooting in US history this past
December in Newtown, Connecticut. On the day that it
happened, the Associated Press, among other news organizations
asked for the recordings of the 911 calls that were made that
day during that crisis from the Sandy Hook Elementary School.
And now asking for the 911 calls. That is a standard
newsgathering request, it is routinely done in basically all
emergency situations that get covered by the press, even
though it is standard practice. In the case of Newtown,
Connecticut, for local police that day made the decision to
deny that request by the media, they did not allow the tapes to
be released. Well, yesterday, a state panel and Connecticut
overturned that decision and ordered the release of the 911
calls. I'm sort of a free speech purist. Obviously I work in the
news, so I'm inclined to that direction anyway. But in
general, even personally, I'm a free speech purists. This myself
is just funny. I believe very strongly that the answer to bad
speech or troubling speech is more speech, that it is wrong
and usually counterproductive to try to suppress information and
access to information. But honestly, it breaks my heart to
think about the audio of those calls being released. And this
is not a done deal yet. The AAP does not have the tapes yet.
They may very well never have them. The state is in the
process of appealing the ruling and they show every sign of
fighting this vociferously because they do not want these
tapes out. But if the audio of those nine on one calls is
released, if the sound is released, of people being
terrorized while they are in the act of being terrorized in the
course of a mass murder of children, I have to say, I hope
the media collectively will have the what what do you call it the
good judgment, the reasonableness and the stout
enough hearts that no one sees fit to broadcast those tapes if
they're ever made available. There is no legitimate purpose
for those calls to be heard on public.
No legitimate purpose. If
they need to be public, you can put them in public records
depositories. So people who want to hear that stuff can go seek
it out if need be and listen to it privately.
This is where this is how it should go down. John, you'd go
down to the basement, you know down where the records are for
the insider trading from Congress or all the congressmen
and their staff.
Find an old woman down there and then you have to give some blood
Yeah, and sign
in and sign out and it will be on cassette tape. You see you
won't be any digital thing. Player got it. It'll be a Sony
Walkman. You can put the headphones on so you can listen
there if you need to hear it, but it shall not be broadcast.
What is on these tapes. This is you know, they've had nine
months to do this. It's gonna be a great production. I'm sure
they're gonna be fabulous.
I'm sure they have it's going to be fabulous.
For this is so uncharacteristic Have any have any news person to
say this? What is what is going on with this?
She's in the bag. So to speak. Yeah, well I get myself in in
the morning. Thank you. Yeah, you deserve it. All right, so.
So Clinton, I guess is having his little con fab. I guess his
ending shortly.
Did you see him and Obama with Lucifer in trowing them? No, I
missed that. Oh, you
want to hear it? Yes.
Have fabulous daughters, Bobby laws. They each married far
above themselves
and they each love our country. And so please join me in
welcoming number 42 and number 44 Bill Clinton and President
Barack Obama
listen to the music. Production cut Fire Truck three is that
cheesy like piano Production Music
shooting crap that's public domain is cheating. This guy's
got $75 billion dollars in the bank this this Clinton
Foundation. We were talking about it on another episodes.
And then there's a report on these guys. It's like something
like seven they got more money than the Gates Foundation. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. And nobody wants to mention any of that. Because
they're just sitting on the guy just just making money off the
interest. And
it's it's the the loops that come with, with GarageBand.
Yeah. Or semi find out you find on there if you play the Yamaha
demo.
Tambourine and
put in that data without
looking they're walking up now. Mr. President,
listen to this. Are you interviewing me? Are you in a
job? That was a good thing you did? Thank you for coming.
It is wonderful to be back. And let me start just by saying
this is interesting. So this, they mess up the script. That's
why Clinton's like, he didn't understand what's going on until
and the President is waiting until Clinton says, you know,
thank you to be here. And then then that's when Brock just
rolls berry rolls into his script.
Well, it is wonderful to be back. And let me start just by
saying to all the people who have for years now supported the
incredible efforts
of CGI and the Saudi Arabians.
Thank you. Because wherever we travel, all across the globe, we
see the impact that is making every single day. Yeah,
Syria, Syria, Lebanon, Libya.
We're very Haiti, of what you all do.
Haiti Rubble, and poop.
And let me say that we still miss our former Secretary of
State. And I should add that I should add that there's nothing
she said that was not true. Well particularly the part about us
marrying up
what does that even mean? She didn't say they were marrying
Oh, marrying up above above their weight. Okay.
Well, that brings me to my first healthcare comment. This is
so how does that bring you to your first life care? I know the
guy is he's he's drunk guys a lot. Hi. Hi. Hi. And listen to
him. He it's the whole thing is so bad that
there's nothing she said that was not true. Particularly the
part about us marrying up
Well, that brings me to my first healthcare comment. This is
gonna be a conversation the best of what we
call a great segue.
A crappy segue.
Well, that brings me to my first question here about healthcare.
Thanks for leading me with this stupid
remark. domestic and international health and
America's role in it but I want to begin by telling you that
think the First Lady has done a great job in this fight against
childhood.
Okay, so what he's doing now he's got an excuse me while I
blow you about your why city.
We have been honored At our foundation to be asked to
represent her effort and 18,000 schools, where we've lowered the
calories and drinks being served in the schools by 90%. Grade on
that. The other thing, I think, is that I was a little upset in
his hours
in school now. Okay, good,
you know, called one of your administration members, when you
got to Africa, when I read an article that said that you
didn't have a big initiative in Africa, and I said, I can't say
exactly what I said. But I said, that is inaccurate. That's the
sanitized version of what I said,
anyway, so the, then he tries to sell Obamacare in one minute.
And this is how you don't sell Obamacare.
So there was in effect, no price competition. So what I was
terrified of was, you know, we'd open these things, and there'd
only be one company show up and bid and this whole thing, we'd
be having an academic conversation instead, it's
actually led to the establishment of more companies
doing more bidding. And I think part of it is they have greater
confidence that they can deliver to healthcare at a more modest
cost. So, so far, it's good. But I think it's important for you
to tell people why we're doing all this outreach, because this
only works, for example, if young people show up. And even
if they buy the cheapest plan, and they claim their tax credit,
so that won't cost them much 100 bucks a month or so we got to
have them in the pools.
Because otherwise everybody in the pool,
all these projected low cost cannot be held. If older people
with pre existing conditions are disproportionately represented.
In any given state, you've got to have everybody lined up. So
let me explain what kind of all the work you've been doing on
the outreach when we for the opening on October.
All right, why doesn't somebody get a bill? Some beer, or some
weed or something? As the most incoherent thing I've ever
heard,
ever listening to him on this and that and he's, I got one
here, he was on PBS. And he goes rambley he does on Letterman, he
starts talking about one thing, and then he confuses himself and
starts rambling about something miles. And it's just the
weirdest thing to listen to. I think this one here's got some
pretty weird crap on it this clip
ammunition clips, not having assault weapons, anything,
Americans will support reasonable things as long as
they don't interfere with the ability to hunt, a sports shoot
or defend your home. They will support other measures. But the
people who are for these things won't vote against you. If
you're on the other side. The people who were against them
will vote against you if you're on the other side. So that
creates a political imbalance.
One question about your wife, Secretary Clinton, she
is you know that man who you live with,
confirmed for the first time this week and this past week
that she is wrestling with the idea of running for president,
why did wrestling choose to say this right now? After months of
avoiding the press on the subject? And how much does she
talk to you to her so
close?
How much do you talk about it?
I must say until I read the reports of her interview, it
struck me that she was pretty much saying what she always did.
We don't need a four year presidential campaign. It's
amazing how much longer they are now. She doesn't have to declare
now or in three months or six months. And so I think she
should just enjoy her life and finish her book and book do this
work she wants to do with this too small to fail initiative
I choose small to fail.
Better decision about this political issue. If she's
everything's going well in their life, that's what I think so.
Yeah, yeah,
of course the media they don't like this because they want to
start racking up some of that money.
Yeah, they do. Actually this you gotta get to stretch this thing
out. But this ready for Hillary campaign has been going on for
at least five six months. Yeah, I get two emails. Maybe one
email every day or two. From ready for Hillary, I'm on their
mailing list is very interesting. I was ready for
Hillary for years honey.
And so they they sit there just pushing, pushing, pushing. And
this is not like some independent group of people
going in. They're going to try to talk Hillary into running
which is what they try to promote in this whatever it is,
is mailing they keeps sending out they're always asking for,
can you just give us $5? And so, and then sometimes they have the
$3 thing which I which Obama perfected. And it was like $3 or
$3 is not unless you click on it and you go to the donation page,
it's not even on there. Either. You have to write it in your
Yeah, so it's other. But whatever the case is, this has
been going on they're collecting money. They're by the millions,
by the way, for this ready for Hillary and they just give her
all the money when you know when they officially start the
campaign. So they're gonna stretch this out. But she This
is a four year campaign. That just what Bill said, but it's
gonna get tiresome, I think people are gonna get sick of it.
Hillary's got her face lifts she's got everything's ready to
go. She's got they're too small to fail. She's got that
happening. She got a book. Oh, crap book she's going to put out
just before the election, and then they're gonna they're gonna
kill Bill and that would be the that would be the icing on the
cake. Well,
we I think we also have to deal with Anthony. Well, yeah, what
are we gonna do? Yeah, we got to deal with wiener. We got to deal
with him and Bill and so Bill can die before you know that we
need him. We need him to well, it what's in the book? Didn't I
say he had to die before everything so that we can have
the whole like, we haven't just we have a different opinion on
on the timing on the time, the timing? What is the time? Do you
have the book there handy? Or
is we got so many predictions in this thing? I'm gonna have to
dig by well, you can talk and I'll look,
I believe, well, first of all, we both believe that they will
kill him because he's annoying. Chelsea will take over, of
course, she'll be running the Empire, doing it for mom, with
her banker husband, and Bill will of course die in the
saddle. It's already been set up. We know, it's already
whether we have proof or not. The word will be that there was
a Russian hooker riding him to death. But I believe that I
think I said he has to he has to kick. But they have to kill him
before. Just before the election, we can you know, till
we can have a funeral. You know, we need the sympathy.
This is right, what you're saying? You had a different
opinion? I did, but I am not sure whose opinion is whose now
I have to find it. I'm gonna dig through here. We'll have to talk
about on the next show. I want to mention to people out there
who help us produce the show by funding it, that nobody else
would even discuss such an issue or a possibility, except this
show, but everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. And
everybody, you know, they will talk about it over dinner, but
they won't talk about it
in on their podcast, on their podcast, openly. Hey, before
it's forbidden, because this is all part of the big tolerance
push.
Yeah, no, this is intolerant to even discuss such a thing. Did
you hear this? I'm gonna go through page after page to find
the little thing in here. When
you do that I want to play. On Thursday, we we read the
proposed European Union legislation for tolerance. So
you can't talk bad about anybody. You can't say anyone's
in your lame,
right, which it will limit the lifespan of the show. In
Europe, it certainly will keep but I think it's a global thing.
Here is watermelon had Carrie who uses it not once but twice
that T word.
It is fair to say that unspeakable evil still exists in
our world.
Yeah, at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
And dealing with that is the cause that brings all of us here
today. We have to remain vigilant. But we have to do more
than be vigilant, we have to find a way to prevent, to
preempt, to act ahead of these kinds of these kinds of
obscenities, cowardly attacks like these cannot be allowed to
change who we are, or shake our resolve to promote peace.
By the way. Do you hear how he's, we know that he signs his
name, John F. Kerry, do you hear him? He's actually now doing
Kennedy cadence. Listen to it,
and justice for all. So I think that these acts call on us to
reaffirm our determination to counter violent extremism, and
promote tolerance everywhere. And that's what brings us here
today. The more I witness these acts over the course of these
years, the more I am struck by their emptiness. People who
attack and masks disappear, killed people. And you wonder
what the statement is that they leave behind? Are they offering
a school? Are they offering a health clinic?
Hey, everybody come on down to the al Qaeda School of Health
they offering education and opportunity for a better life.
It seems there's an emptiness in these actions. And I think
everybody here feels it. So it calls on us to reaffirm more
determination to counter violent extremism and to promote
tolerance everywhere
you go. It's all about the T word. Tolerance I'm just
identifying it
No, I think you're onto something with that that's a
good one. I give that as catcher the day
catcher the day so it's not quite a halibut but it's catch
of the day. I do want to just point something out to all the
techie boys out
find it interesting that whenever Space X does something,
it's like this is everyone's Oh, it's either Space X here to go
into the International Space Station or they're launching
SpaceX countdown we're going but when orbital Orbital Cygnus,
which docked with the International Space Station
yesterday, it's crickets no one talks about it an orbital. These
guys do you know orbital they make they make rockets that kill
people. Have you? I mean look at orbital orbital. I think it's
orbital.com. Why does no one talk about orbital when they
dock with the space station? They are one of two companies
who have a private contract with NASA. Yeah. orbital.com
Yeah, I'm looking at it and been around since 1982. That's the
reason they're 31 years in space. Yes,
but look at that missile defense systems human spaceflight
exploration system I believe. I believe that the real work the
real business the real the real I let
me get try to guess what you're suggesting. You're suggesting
that the Space X is a distraction to keep us from
looking at orbital which is the company that needs to be
examined? Yes.
Exactly. And it's being propagated by little techie
fanboys and script kiddies.
That was so cool.
You know a Musk has done a rocket in this. Morons look at
what's really going on here.
The price of the stock 2130
They've got the Pegasus the Taurus, the interest the
Minotaur, that's the one that kills people. And then they had
missile defense interceptor vehicles, target vehicles, long
range targets. These guys are they're building systems that
kill people shoot rockets from outer space.
Nice. Yeah.
Why isn't this is the company that's cool. These guys have
pretty much launched every single satellite you can think
of Intelsat Korea sat, Intelsat. 15, interset 16. They, they're
making the real money.
And Yeah, no kidding. But
they literally docked here, the Orbital Cygnus spacecraft
successfully bursts with international space station
yesterday. Will this be on twit? No. No, it'll be Oh, he's
awesome. He's awesome. He's Tony Stark. Dream on PayPal.
So let's take a look here at the before we in the show. The key
statistics of these guys. So the company is worth 1.2 billion,
which is cheap. You can Yeah, actually Elon combined with
pocket change. You could buy this company
just in the public market. So market cap of 1.2. That's very
low. I find that to be
very low. Well, it's because not a tech company. They're not
getting a lot of publicity, apparently.
Yeah, well, we're trying. This is our pump and dump scheme.
So Curiously, the market cap is 1.2 billion, but their revenue
is 1.4 billion.
Oh, wow. So they're one times earnings. Well, looks like it's
weird, but one times revenue. Oh, one times revenue. Well,
what Oh, yeah. What's that? What are the what's their earned
earnings?
339 million, which makes them like four times earnings? Oh,
the earnings per share. price earnings ratio is 18 intraday,
so I don't know how that makes any sense. The
CEO David W. Thompson. Oh, no wonder Look at this guy. What a
dick. What a nerd dick.
Let's see where's y'all heard me get the profile that company
he's not sexy. Guess where they're located?
Virginia. Oh, Texas, Texas, their locale. Tell us Virginia.
I thought they were in Texas. You're on
40 50101 Warp Drive on Dulles Tech, Virginia. You have
operations in Texas. David
W. Thompson is the Chairman CEO and president gets
paid 1,000,002 which is reasonable.
But you know, look at his head. He's he's not. He's not Elon
Musk. You got to go to corporate information. He shared and then
executive profiles to another thing. Yeah. Well, we could do
so much good for this company. But I don't think they want it.
That's Oh, no, no, no, no.
They don't want it. I want absolutely not. They want to
be Oh. So it looks like
a it looks like an Eric Schmidt. Yeah. Wait a minute. Yeah.
Friday actually got David W. Thompson, the actor and then
when this picture came up, it was kind of shocked.
Now it's different dive definitely.
Yeah, so yeah. So I do believe indeed, that particularly if you
look at the launching of these two systems, one after another,
that this is rigged. This is rigged to distract us from from
the company that's doing the real work.
It could be it's not a big shocker to anybody. If it's
true, I just
find it interesting that Why is no one interested in a company
that is Doc successfully a commercial company?
One, they don't want to be noticed. And B, the other guy
wants to be noticed since then, you gotta you gotta discrepancy
here. He got a company that doesn't want to be noticed, and
a company paying to be noticed. And so they get noticed. And
this like, we are stunned by this. No, it's just,
I want people to look inside themselves and ask themselves
that question. Why are they tweeting about the Space X and
not about orbital?
Because they're idiots? Thank you. It's not because you want
to just the only point you tried to make
out there? No, it's not because they're idiots is because
they're sucked up into celebrity culture. And it's important that
people really I would
say, that's, that's the standard. That's the American
way. And what you're saying, which I think is a big is the
real point you're making here is that even the most
technological, nerdy geeks the guys who should be above it all,
they're all so they might as well be watching the Maury show.
Is this bad? Yes. It's Entertainment Tonight. Yes.
Yeah. And many of them are comic book nuts, and they should be
ashamed of
themselves.
Now there's that. All right.
No agenda producer update will be coming up on the live stream
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Ah, that'd be great.
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