He's vaped himself off of Skype, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, October 13 2013. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 556. This is no agenda packed with college
and inspired volume plumping here in the Travis high tide out
the Capitol. Lone Star State Austin Tejas in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
Those are Silicon Valley. We're leaves are falling. Why? I'm
John C. Dvorak. Hill. I
mean, isn't it fall, isn't it that what's called fall? Yeah,
that's why it's called fall. We had five and a half inches of
rain in the past
12 hours. Nice. Yeah.
It was rather interesting. Last night driving home we were
invited to serve Scott of The armory. Sir Scott had loose here
in Austin. And as you know, he's the night of the nogen
roundtable but also he runs the armory. And boy does he had not
been to his house. You have when we did we went last night. Okay.
Yeah, he's got the the armory is there for sure. Guide gun. Not
just that. He's got that whole thing. You know, the reloading
station and all of that. Oh, those are
cool. Yeah, for sure. I make your own bullets are actually
mostly for shotgun shells. But as he actually make his own
bullet 45 Yeah. 45. Nice. Yeah, well, you can load. You can put
whatever load you want. You can have like a real weak shot, you
know, just poof didn't do anything. Yeah,
yeah. No, I don't think he does that variety. It was his wife
and their four dogs. Lovely. And he had some, some friends over
who, interestingly enough, were economic hitmen and didn't even
know it.
Most economic hitmen don't know it. And I even said no to your
economic. Well, I'm saying when Perkins wrote his book he didn't
know as an economic Yeah. And they've
not heard of the John Perkins author of confessions of
economic hitman. And they're over there, you know, getting
oil contracts in Uganda. Oh, yeah. That's, and seriously
like, Oh, this is great. You know, this is this is no word.
We're, everyone's playing it fair. They're done dog trainers
by day economic hitmen by night. It's very, very interesting.
You get Yeah, if they gotta read the book, once they read the
book, they'll get a clue. And then they get kind of, you know,
they'll be like, holy crap. What are we doing? That's some good
stories about about Africa. Actually.
I'm good guy. I'm good to hear him. Yeah. Well, I
need I need a little more. Probing, we need another dinner.
This is kind of the exact opposite of the Oba dinners that
we have. Yeah, this is this is kind of like Hey, come on in.
You know, I just, I just dress the deer in the garage. I got
the shanks. I'm not kidding. Hey, what do you guys bring? Oh,
look at this goose. We got a there may be a little shot left
in there. So just be careful when
you have to be careful when you
Mickey looked at me like what? Actually she knows because her
her stepdad was a hunter, so she knows to be careful for the
shot.
Yeah, you bite in one of those things in your trouble.
You're over modulating just a tad. I don't know what it is.
It's almost like
it's getting turned down at two different places.
I'm not sure where to turn it down. You're You're overdriving
the gain on the M audio M track ready? Yeah. Okay. Can't nine
Just tell me when to stop. Okay, and 98765
Stop, stop. Stop, stop. That will do it. Yeah, it's just
weird. I don't know what it is.
Okay, so ya know, if you have I was, yeah, if you're eating in
the country and even in the English countryside in some of
these obscure places. Oh, yeah. And you get grouse.
I've bitten into some shot before and it is not fun. No,
no. Have you ever had that you actually bitten the one
Yeah, yeah. Oh my god brows. I thought I had a cover because
you kind of tongue it for a while as I'm good to go.
Wait a minute. Is this another no agenda tip? Tongue your meat?
Yeah, you better telling you that meat. How exactly does this
work? How do you tongue the meat
it feel around and gingerly as though they're shot in there and
then they then go all clear. can put you away?
Another no agenda tip for the Armageddon. On us it was really
good. It was good. Good. Good to know these people. Fantastic. Of
course. You know, sir Scott has been trying to get us to either
come over to the dinner or to go like shooting
get them in the old bus together and then you hit out as the
shootout began.
This this is such that would be such a mismatch it would not
work if it's not a good idea. Oh man, how was your trip? Because
yeah, you Portland? Yeah. You went out and back with a quick
turnaround and all of that just to make sure you're back in the
studio for the show. Right?
Yes, we go through a lot of trouble the two of us to make
sure we do the show agenda. We do miss a show where I mean we
do push it off sometimes, but it's rare. We've done it for at
least a year or so. But so I found a couple of things out
that are interesting to me
when you were up up Northwest Yeah, okay.
I didn't realize this but when I was in Oregon so I was driving
around and Oregon is crazy gaga over one way streets and it's
actually called a one way grid. Oh boy and so the whole center
of Portland for example is a grid is a one way grid so every
street is a one way street one way or the other. And so he has
always had to go you know, if you wanted to go around the
block you got to go around two blocks every which way to get
around one block Do
you have roundabouts as well? Or is it just the one oh,
god okay. All right. So so I'm I'm from California we can make
one way turns from a left one way to a left one way you can
make a left hand one way turn so I'm on a one way street I can
make a left into another one way street under the circumstances
where it can make a left you know how that works. In New York
you can't do any of that you can even make a right turn on a red
lightens and I'm always cautious about these hold on hold
on hold on. You could you can turn right on red in New York.
Just not New York City. Yes. Well, I meant okay all right. In
fact in Texas I think here in Austin we if we can turn left on
on red you can turn left on red if it's a one way going left
Yeah,
that's what that that's what interested me because I was
reading I said you know, let me write because I was watching how
people operated and so they said okay, everyone's making a left
on left so I can make a left from a one with all one way so I
meant that I can make a left on the left. So I'm making the left
turns and and some guy runs the light and makes a left turn on a
one way street so this is terrible. This guy just run the
light didn't care. So I looked it up and according to the
article, I read this the only states that allow this which is
you're on a two way street. This way we're talking about texting
on a two way street.
You know, you're on a one way street turning onto a left hand
one way
you could do that everywhere. Okay, though, this is weirder.
You're on a two way street at a red light
now that doesn't seem like you can do that. That doesn't seem
like that's appropriate legal
in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Alaska.
Yeah, all states that no one gives a crap about
oh, there's they're pretty proud of these towns. Seattle's not
like a lame, you know? No, it's true. So you can show you're on
a two way street. People have to know this because it's because
when you see somebody doing Yeah,
that's weird. And particularly if you're if you're coming from
the other direction you see this happening.
Yeah. But you go ahead of course you know, you're stopped it from
the other direction. But what have you think about it? What
why not?
When or why you know, you're not stopped if he's if he's going
through red turning left, and you're apparently coming from
the other direction. You have a green Don't you know, you have a
red? I'm sorry. I got it. You gotta. You gotta read the I'm
sorry. You're right. You're right. I'm dumb. Yeah,
everyone's gotta read. You gotta read. He's gotta read. And he
makes it and it's a one way street. Going to the left and he
makes he makes a left turn right and right just goes right
through the light. Right. It's kind of freaky to see it. I saw
one guy do it. And I just I didn't know I thought it was a
scofflaw. I didn't know it was like doing this.
Did you? Did you roll down your window and go you scofflaw? You
scoundrel. Yes, I did.
Can you turn it down? Just another hair. John. It's you're
just clipping the crap out of your lip. And again, I don't
know. I don't know why. Deal with it. I think you think you
need to turn down. I don't know he just the output of something
that goes into Skype.
You get the output going into Skype. I got my mic turned down
on Skype. Okay. And I won't yell so much.
Maybe Yeah, maybe just over overly excited. I'm excited.
Because I learned something new. Yeah, hey, I actually went to
things new. So, my daughter, she was stunned by this information.
And she told me about it. She picked it up in one of her
classes. You know that Yankee Doodle song they call it
macaroni?
Yeah, he so it's Yankee Doodle until you stuck a feather in his
cap and called it macaroni. Yeah.
You know what, that you have? You I don't even I'm asking a
rhetorical because you have no clue what this means.
No, no, no. No, of course not. No. And in fact, I always
thought it was just made up bullcrap.
When that song was written, was the era when macaroni was
invented. And macaroni became a slang term for things that are
ultra cool.
No, no, yeah. Really. I won't
call it macaroni. That meant he did. This was cool. And
everybody thought it was cool that he had a feather in his
hat. But that
kind of makes sense because you know, you're the mack daddy.
I suppose ability to debt may be a reference. Yeah,
I think that's an extension of it. That's kind of cool. Of
course you know, we all think about one thing on this show.
Your slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese
melted together mac and
cheese mac and cheese, mac and cheese. And I need to say one
thing about this. The amount of email tweets and other incoming
messages that I presume you receive as well, John, that
reference macaroni and cheese, people in restaurants, people at
food trucks, people in weird parts of holding up powdered
packages prices. The mac and cheese phenomenon kind of goes
unreported on our show after we started this whole thing, but it
ln Yes, we have seen the Velveeta ham radio guy
commercial the first or 100 times that aired a year ago. So
they just started a new I guess they did a new buyer or
something. And and you could see it you know when this commercial
is airing around the country because everyone starts emailing
Oh, you won't believe this again. We've seen it.
We've seen it a million times. In fact, there is a YouTube
channel that has all those new commercials. Macaroni Cheese
Alvida thing and it's not just a ham there's a bunch of other
ones and every time I see that commercial I say I listen that
guy's voice and say Adam could have gotten that gig
Yeah, I just did another voiceover another audition what
was it was for sheer madness a reality show on National
Geographic about people who move from the city to raise sheep you
want to hear
shear I get it I get shear you want to hear it? Yeah hurry Vox
agency sheer madness National Geographic. I already sound so
enthused, don't I that's not least cool business takes off
bad news could run her farm into the ground. I had an example it
was a little kind of like a drawl a little southern drawl
type thing. Oh,
you didn't do that. No problem. Yeah,
I thought Connery brings home a working dog. And the dog isn't
the only one in need of a lesson. All right, let's stop it
right there. Any anything anything to make $1
Well, you haven't made $1 doing that. Not a single one. It
surprises me not a single I think you've got to pick up that
mac and cheese gig that guys that's terrible. They never
asked me and I know you're a different agent or something.
No, no,
I was never up for it. I have no idea I don't know what's going
on. I just want to start off with with some some some
observations it seems like and I will have to ask you some
questions about what happens if you because now now of course
we've gone from government shutdown to not raising the debt
limit and you know it's going to be Armageddon etc but something
very interesting happened yesterday which I'm going to
call almost a dry run and I don't know if you were you were
probably traveling to I don't know if you caught any of this
by the way did you You flew right yeah, did you do opt out
or can't raise my arms?
I you know we I do the same thing all the time. So and it's
only one arm and I always get out of it it's no big deal okay?
I have no I always I don't opt out anymore.
Okay, but everything cool you flew breeze right through
everything work. Yeah,
no, it works fine everywhere.
I could. So yes, there's
one. One person gave me a funny look but I said I gave him I
said a dice to puppy dog eyes. I will say this. I will say this
this is interesting. The Portland TSA are douchebags
piece of paper in your pocket? Get a piece of paper out of your
pocket get it out of your pocket get everything out of your
pocket piece of paper. Yeah, yeah. Piece of paper
like tissue to blow your nose or the boarding
pass in my pocket.
And you in your in your shirt pocket? Yeah, and they get a
pocket sleeve. Yeah, now that's nothing man listen to a
recording here of the this is Houston airport. I believe it's
George Bush H Bush airport. Listen to this announcement
which is I can presume a TSA induced but it is a full on
airport announcement.
Pay particular attention to your luggage and personal belongings.
undigested, luggage will and personal belongings may be
treated as a danger to the facility. Do not be persuaded by
strangers or individuals you do not know well to take articles
afford your flight. You are also reminded that any inappropriate
remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your
risk. Please
don't make jokes
slave. Yeah, well, that was actually in play even before 911
I never heard that announcement. This
couple of places around the country. The airports had a
signage signage don't make jokes. Okay. Well, I said you'll
be arrested. Yeah.
Get you, thrown in the brig slave
arrested for making hay That wasn't funny. Arrest him. So
anyway, well, comics yesterday.
And the owner, of course, this is technology news, which
there's no technical technological reporting on other
than, you know, some press release that was put out by some
spokes Hall, which was then subsequently copy pasted through
Reuters to everybody else. The the EBT electronic benefits
transfer system, which is essentially a credit card type
application for food stamps, and the SNAP program stopped working
after a routine software upgrade, which is I always think
you should do those Saturday morning. I think that's, you
know, at 9am. That's a great time to do your software
upgrades. And in 17 states, as reported, including California,
yay, the benefits card stop working. Yeah. And, and I was
tracking this on Twitter, which is really new. You can turn on
CNN, you can do anything you want. But you do a hashtag a lb
hashtag search on Twitter. And I must have seen 300 tweets every
10 seconds. And now they got it turned on after hours and hours
and hours and hours. But when you think about the total number
of EBTs out there, you know, this has got to affect the 10
million people probably. And there was no rioting. But I
think it was an interesting, interesting run to see what
happened was you think this was a dry run? Yeah, yeah, I
do. This is Cybersecurity Awareness Month. And I'm seeing
coordinated efforts of of certain things for race does
seem I forgot what company was doing this. It was only in
certain states, I think was Xerox or some
Well, it's 17 states. And yeah, but it was one company
in particular Xerox, Xerox, Xerox. And their idea was, well,
we were doing an upgrade. You don't do as now slipstream
upgrade in the middle of a financial situation like the
government shutdown. Just don't. But not even that it's
not on us. It's the money drops on the first the 10th. And I
think the 17th or something, so everyone had just kind of gotten
their money. Is this a holiday weekend? Is this Columbus Day
weekend?
I don't know is it?
Well, it's a weekend, people go out and they go and buy their
stuff on Saturday. And you don't do this during working hours.
And then and the Sunday after midnight kind of thing?
No, but they did the Saturday morning. And here's what the the
spokes hole said. Yeah, you know, we had a problem. And then
here's the quote, it just takes a while to reboot these systems.
could put this like, what are you running server 2000. And you
know, this is dumb. Takes a while to reboot these systems.
Now, I feel this was a test to see how people would respond how
it to me it was Oh my God, what did it that's a good test. We
forget. And we forget what to do if What if the system just
doesn't work? What if the ATM just doesn't work? What if it
just doesn't work?
Yeah, that's the problem. That's why cash is king.
Well, there's a war on cash and also, coincidentally happened
this weekend in the Netherlands. This is this was very irksome. I
want a second I need to bring it out here. They had mayors and
members of parliament going out on something new, which is the
only pin only pin everything on Saturday. So you know in Holland
to have the pin stuff, which is the person identification
number. And and you know, you have your, your kind of your
like your debit card, just talked about this on the show
with some, some places don't even really want cash at all
right, right.
You bitched about this when you are.
So they took, let's see, who was it that went out. It looks like
mayors of several cities, you know how they'll get a mayor to
go out and do the promotion. And the idea is, let's all use our
electronic cash on Saturdays. It's much better for everybody.
It works more efficient. We can do more sales this way. And of
course, it's much safer for the stores because then they won't
get robbed. So here we literally have the the established
government promoting the cashless society promoting it.
And I saw Yeah, that's what they're doing. It's a way it's a
control mechanism.
Yeah, thank you. And this is exactly what we saw with this
EBT thing yesterday and then we have CNBC. The I guess the
report came out from Tufts University about how expensive
it is, you know, to, you know, to not use digital money. So I
spoke to say cash is not going to go away, electronic
transactions are clearly taking on more of the market share. But
cash is still being used by a number of people, a lot of low
income people, certain minority groups. And the reason is, is
because they trust cash, it's tangible, it's something you can
hold on to, it's backed by the US government, they know it's
good for every transaction they're going to do. However,
another thing the authors of the study at Tufts pointed out was
there, the market is so fragmented with digital payment
systems, that people really aren't sure if I use this, will
somebody accept it? So until that sort of shakes out cash for
many people is the best alternative however,
transactions are there things you can do to lower the fees of
course, though, first of all, think about your transactions.
So the whole point of moving you towards the digital cashless
society is the fees. Like oh, man, you know, you really know
you look, a lot of people get paid with a debit card. So which
I think should be illegal, but their companies essentially give
them a debit card and they put the their salaries kickback but
yeah, and that thing is full of fees. No, man, you use it
anywhere. And there's a there's a fee being charged,
yes, fees, fees is no fees with cash, but but they
but the whole idea is to charge you fees when you convert your
digital money into cash. And that's how they're really
forcing this and there was I think the study said that, you
know, lots of people are essentially wasting $1,000 A
year and poor people by not using digital money by not
having a debit card by taking their check and cashing it. And
if they have a debit card by taking money out, no charge
being charged $4 A shot it's a it's a concerted push. But
what's interesting it's happening right now all at the
same time, across continents. You want I mean?
We know you've been following this since the beginning I've
always been
no but this month, this particular month, in one day we
have Okay, we have the mayor's doing that we have you know,
this tufts study coming out. And this is the one that blew me
away the most when it comes to cyber. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna
replay this trailer for October 27 on the Nat Geo channel The
American blackouts really
dark. I have to let some candles do nothing to nobody's doing
anything today because there's no power right now our nothing
in here works your Millea She further doesn't work you're
supposed to do
when are you coming to pick us up
blackout is the result of a cyber attack. So guys as your
questions. Yeah. So there's no power. Everything's done. Right.
Right. What how should get on the phone and say, Daddy, when
you're going to pick us up? Well, I
like how we see a news report on the television. That was my
favorite. Like the TV. The telescreens will continue to
work. I have no fear.
The TV screens are good on the phone. They all have power every
pipe all the power is out. Of course there's a world of phone
lines will still be working. No, no, no, no, no. So Cybertech
takes it down. It's the girl is not calling anybody. And so it
turns out either way down to continue to interrupt. Yeah. But
it seems to me to be much more frightening for most people
today. If the cell tower goes out and they can't talk all the
time on the phone.
Ah, well, yes, that would be quite frightening. But what was
interesting is this. This movie this theatrical event on October
27 called American blackout. Just one month ago in the United
Kingdom's Gitmo nation east on Channel Four we had blackout.
Let's listen to that trailer
being building our website. Oh, we are in the midst of a power
cut. Everything is going down the transmission network of the
national grid as lost our little doubt in Westminster that we
have been the victims of some kind of cyber attack.
We will do everything necessary. police helicopters overhead
national mains electricity supply will be restored as soon
as possible. Don't use the
brand new drama Monday night. It's exactly the same. cut that
piece out with the girl whining about whatever who knows
it I love it. It's exactly the same even right down to the
cyberattack is the same thing on the television, which apparently
does not go off during a power outage. It's fantastic.
Yeah, this is all promoted the the smart grid. I mean, we wish
of course, it seems to me they're not. They're promoting
it awkwardly. Because if you have a grid, that's all that's a
national grid that's really interconnected away. It can be
like in the northeast, yeah. And piece of it goes down, the whole
thing goes down. I mean, if you have a localized situation, we
have some damn powering an area, or one of those backyard nukes.
Yeah, this morning, a neighbor, which is, this is all academic.
There's a name for it. It's the SMR. It's a small modular
reactor. That's what that's the official name of the backyard
nuke.
Okay. Yeah. Do you have an SMR? This is the I don't need this is
now meaningless, driven. Right.
And by the way, the cell towers I think they will most will
continue to work because they're all independently powered. I
think the cell towers will be okay. The endless it's an
EMP cyber attacker you should be able to turn that.
If you're a smart cyber attacker. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Well,
I don't think they don't have generators. They get they're
using the power.
No, that Yeah, but no, they all have cell backups. Now. Um, I
mean, solar backups and stuff. I'm pretty
sure they have battery power. Well, battery is not gonna last
very long. Not forever.
But I'm pretty sure most of them run independently. And you have
to leave me one of our producers will let us know who I'm sure as
set these things up. But it's all kind of academic, John,
because in case you didn't know, we are already under martial law
here in the United States. No, I didn't know that. Yes, yes. Yes,
it's true. And this is our representative here from Texas,
Sheila Jackson Lee, who as you know, I love dearly, I think
she's great.
She's the she's the dumbest member of Congress. She's
fantastic. Pretty cool.
There are not enough voters, members of Congress that would
vote right now today, to open this government is something
called a continuing resolution. But it's a bill that you put on
the floor that has been passed already by Republicans and
Democrats in the United States Senate. This is not an idea of
anyone over another person. Republican and Democratic
senators have already voted for this clean bill that we could
vote on today. We have martial law, what that means. And my
colleagues know, what it means is that you can put a bill on in
just minutes. So you know. What? I know, that was kind of what
everybody says when they see this.
What can you play that last part again, about the martial law?
Yes, yes,
we have martial law. Here comes
Republican and Democratic senators have already voted for
this clean bill that we could vote on today, we have martial
law, what that means. And my colleagues knows what it means
is that you can put a bill on in just minutes.
My favorite is when she says my colleagues knows what that
means. My colleagues knows what that means. Yeah, we have
martial law, just so you know. Wow. Maybe we do? I don't know
what we do. Maybe she spilled the beans. I'm thinking, okay,
she's dumb,
but you know, that, why would she say that? But there's a lot
of weird stuff going on, you know, just if you look at the
overall picture. Okay, so EBT went down. I'm gonna I'm gonna
say that was a dry run test. Just yeah, we'll just do 17
states. We'll just see how that works. You know, we'll check
that one out. We had some some
docile the public, actually, yes, yeah.
See how exactly, then we have some dude in Arkansas, who has
been trying to bring down the grid with like, a truck or
something. He's been sabotaging the power grid there. And, of
course, this this news, bro, we've already discussed some of
this. But you know, the rate at which the the Department of
Defense is being, you know, kicked out. And this all kind of
started after a year ago, that when we had the Benghazi stand
down, and we had generals, you know, leaving without their,
their typical big send off parties and people just fading
into the woodwork and retiring and going away. And then we had
Petraeus and just all all.
Is this just the nuke firings? You're going to talk about? Yes.
I have a very short clip that explains it. Called nuke
firings. Okay.
I had a clip too, but this is years is shorter.
The US Air Force has fired the commander of its nuclear missile
force. Major General Michael Kerry was responsible for the
Air Force's 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles he's been
reassigned over alleged personal misconduct. Earlier this week.
The Navy fired a vice admiral who oversaw nuclear weapons. He
is being investigated over gambling issues.
I have Diane Sawyer doing the Report. Oh, is she drunk? No,
but we should play the jingle anyway, drunk again. Zandile
Diane, these officers have some of the highest security.
She was so not drunk, I
cut her out clearances you can get and have been in charge of
the nation's most sensitive nuclear arsenal.
This is much more exciting and important when it comes from ABC
News, John, where it really sounds like everything is very,
very high priority importance.
A stunning chain of events today, Michael Kerry, the two
star general responsible for the nation's three intercontinental
ballistic missile wings fired from his command the reason,
personnel misbehavior on a military business trip. This
comes just 48 hours after President Obama himself relieved
the number two in command over the nation's nuclear arsenal
over his suspected use of counterfeit poker chips. These
following alarming string of general officers losing their
jobs this year for inappropriate behavior, misconduct or lack of
leadership.
Let me just ask you a question. I mean, there's one thing to be
using you know counterfeit poker chips and everything. But isn't
the fact that you've got your generals hanging out in the
casino gambling disturbing by itself some level of amusement
something that we all do all the time to
Marine Corps generals fired less than two weeks ago for not
providing proper force protection in Afghanistan which
of course is not explained an Army Brigadier General relieved
of duty for adultery and army two star general fired for
groping a civilian J Bay. And in March a navy one star removed
for racially insensitive comments and abusive leadership.
We are a bunch of assholes were just raping and groping and
gambling and drinking and not protecting this
it really seems pretty weird doesn't it?
I think this is all right if we do the world is upside
these people aren't either these people completely out of control
at the highest levels of the defense of the armed forces
which means that these wars and everything are completely
screwed up because these guys are the leaders Yeah, or this is
something there's something going on that we have yet to
figure out now get rid of a whole layer of these guys so we
can replace them with soldiers
let me go back to the what clip that I just played before we're
under martial law my friend
these are the these guys aren't going along with exactly
these are the guys you know who are like normal dudes you know
they grab some ass They gamble a little bit but the one thing
they won't do was turn on the American people they're like no
we're not gonna have like Storm in and occupy the country Oh, oh
well I'm fired Yeah, I think these are guys who
this is a bit of an Alex Jones kind of a yes
yeah if you want to me you can you might as well just call me
an asshole if you want but yeah, that's fine. I mean you can do
that. Wow, that was really a low blow John that was unnecessary
it's
it just seems to me now
but think of no no nobody let me finish my thought. As I said
water is
that not Maxine Waters but the Jackson whatever name is her
word. Maxine versus the other one she's actually a Einstein
compared to this Sheila Jackson
Yeah. But think maybe we're in
a martial law should we be looking doing a little more
research into this
what we are in a state of emergency I mean, we've been
under perpetual state of emergency resigned every year
since 911. But remember the first guys to go were the ones
that that would not stand down when help was being called for
from Benghazi and then they were relieved from duty they wanted
to send planes from Italy remember? Yeah, these are the
first guys that went like shut up go and then all of a sudden
you know we have the just all you know, I don't know I mean
there's 30 more seconds
for one thing these guys will disappear they mean they won't
get killed I don't think but they're gonna disappear then
they're gonna have signed some document. You want your pet here
it goes like this. You're the guy just fired? Yeah, wait a
minute. Do you want your you have to sign this nondisclosure
about what you know all the basis of everything you think
might have been going on? And all the rest of it and deny that
you can't talk to anybody other so sign this you want your
pension it's like you know
oh, oh, I think it goes much further I think the pen these
guys got so much money.
No, no. No one would not sign that document. You want that
pension by the way if you don't take assign these roles, so
shoot you maybe you could?
Yeah, this this would get my attention. Don't shoot.
Last spring, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was so
concerned about all the high profile cases. He sent a letter
to Pentagon brass urging a recommitment to ethical
leadership. That
was the letter. And believe me wasn't ethical leadership as it
was get on board with the program fail Loes Hey, John,
would you like to buy some seeds? Interesting? Well, not
let's just take
this to water water filters for sale. Let
me take this to its logical website. There was a logical
conclusion. Yeah, okay. Okay. So here we have the, of course
everyone's talking about this. Now here's the World Bank
presidents away
from the very dangerous moment. I urge us policymakers to
quickly come to a resolution before they reach the debt
ceiling deadline. The closer we get to the deadline, the greater
the impact will be for the developing world. Inaction could
result in interest rates rising, confidence falling and growth
slowing. Now,
what he but here's so the banks, there's some trouble always a
winner. There's some trouble with the banks. And the biggest
problem came out with the announcement. And I have I
actually, I haven't done one of these in a long time I hopped on
the conference call the, you know, the quarterly conference
call for JP Morgan Chase. Because we're going Yeah, yeah.
I have a I have a clip. Alright. And so as we know, you know,
there's been some, some minor regulatory issues, just little
stuff. And for the first time in, I think, like, eight or nine
years since 2004. JP Morgan Chase reported a loss of $398
million for the quarter this is, you know, this is the first time
they've lost money with our with the genius of Jamie Dimon. And,
and I thought it was okay. Yeah, that makes sense that, you know,
they've got this, you know, the head, they paid out $7 billion
in a minor regulatory things and fines. But when you hear the CFO
talking here, it's unbelievable what's going on over there. At
this time,
I'd like to turn the call over to JPMorgan Chase is Chad has
had to keep this for you. Jamie Dimon and Chief Financial
Officer listen
to this lady, who's the CFO? She's pretty fun. Maryann like,
is like, please go ahead. Thank you. Morning, everyone. I'm
going to take you through the earnings presentation, which is
available on our website, everything's lovely. Please
refer to the disclaimer regarding forward looking
statements at the back of the presentation.
This is the anything we say he can't be used against us,
the son made a net loss of $380 million for the third quarter on
the back of very significant litigation expenses. So I want
to take you first to page two, we've added this page for this
quarter only. And we want to be as transparent with you as we
can be, and give you a complete picture of possible of our
litigation reserves.
Now, she's talking about litigation reserve. So this is a
charge they took on on this quarter's earnings for money
they believe they will have to spend on litigation. And she's
going to tell us how much that is and what this litigation is
about, and the current perspective
on the evolution of our reasonably reasonably possible
range of losses for litigation. And as you know, as transparent
as we would like to be, we are necessarily constrained in what
we can actually say. Having said that, on page two,
she's saying what's your what's your saying? And she can't tell
you everything. So why? Because they're constrained by the
negotiations they're having right now with the government.
The government has a gun to their head on these. Sorry, can
you
yet well, you're gonna Can you hang? I don't like to do this.
But can you hang up and read out a call me back? Because it's not
that I'm gonna be watching the packets? We're not losing any
packets whatsoever. Yeah, but Skype is cutting you out so much
that it's getting to be incredibly annoying. I can't I
can't hear half of this point. You're trying to make it.
Okay. So this should be better as we're back. So yeah, so the
what she is now going to tell us about is yes, but can you hear
me or is it not working for you?
You know what I did? I made a mistake.
What did you do? What's your mistake?
I hit the call answer with video. And so I got the stupid
thing on the screen.
All right, well, let's do it again. So what we are about to
hear from these, the happy chipper British woman is how
much money they have reserved the which results in this loss.
And of course, they can't tell you everything that's going on
in this this was came out in like a day before the earnings
all of a sudden, like boom, we're gonna lose money. It's
horrible. We can't tell you exactly what's going on. But
wait until you hear how much money.
I'll start by saying that we appreciate that the litigation
expense of $9.2 billion.
That's yeah, that's the limit. So that this is this is part of
the they've already spent seven. The litigation has spent nine
point I think she said $2 billion,
much more significant than you've been expecting. is much
more significant than we expected until very recently.
The reality is that over the last few weeks, the environments
become highly charged and very volatile,
highly charged and very volatile. We're talking about JP
Morgan Chase and Jamie Dimon golden boy of Wall Street. So
they are blackmailing. They're doing something thumbs up, it's,
well, I'll give you the number. And then we'll just finish this
last 45 seconds $23 billion, they've had to reserve for
litigation for interest on penalties. And it all relates
back to mortgage backed securities,
things have been very fluid. And the situation escalated to the
point where we're facing very large premiums and penalties,
the level of which has gone far beyond what we reasonably
expected. However, those are the facts we're dealing with today,
in our reserving actions this quarter, and are trying as far
as possible, but these issues behind us. So let me quickly
take you through the table on the top of page two, which is a
roll forward of our reserves. We started 2010, with $3 billion in
reserves, added around $28 billion dollars through the
third quarter, including the actions this period. And
unsettled a little less than $8 billion across matters. It
leaves us with $23 billion approximately, of ending
reserves, which relates to a broad range of matters, and
includes a significant reserve for mortgage related matters,
including both securities and repurchase litigation.
These guys are ft
20. Weird because the stock is actually went up, it went up.
Yeah, the stock went,
I don't understand how does this work? What is going on this to
me. And throughout this, I didn't record all of the
recording of the call. But how many more clips were they? A
couple of questions came in about C car. And C car is
something that is taking place in this month as well, which is
the comprehensive capital analysis and review. This is an
annual exercise the Fed does to ensure institutions have it here
have robust forward looking capital planning processes that
account for their unique risks and sufficient capital to
continue operations throughout times of economic and financial
stress. So this is taking place this month. And one of the
questions about the C car for JPMorgan Chase was, are you also
prepared for a Counterparty failure? Which would be very
similar to the Lehman meltdown of 2008. So I'm just taking all
this stuff, John, I'm looking at the EBT thing and Cybersecurity
Awareness Month got all this blackout crap. And then this
stuff is happening. I I don't know. But you know, we know
something's up. There may be
it just may be we've got the World Bank, guys. I mean, what
really happens if we don't raise the debt limit in five days? Or
what? What really happens? Can you end because no one is
talking about what really happens, went to the banks just
start to explode. And ATMs don't work on what really happens,
what really happens?
Well, it means that we can't expand the government because
most of what we're dealing with here is new programs that have
been promised. And we just shift our, we just take the income
that comes in from taxes and pay our bills, but we can't pay any
new bills.
Right. But this is not what the bankers are so many knows what's
going to happen. That's why nobody's saying this. But we do
have an income in this country. That's a huge one. And we do
have an outflow, which is a huge one. We just can't borrow more
money to, you know, to pad the pad the thing we just had pretty
much have to spend what we get in
Saturday, Jamie Dimon said banks are already spending, quote huge
amounts of money preparing for the possibility of a default,
which he said would threaten the global recovery. And this
apparently has to do with the repo Mark market. The repo
market, I guess, there's this kind of shadow banking system
where cash is borrowed and leveraged at 40 or 50 times the
rate and the the Treasury securities or or Treasuries are
being used to securitize those loans. And if that would change
for some reason, if the if the interest rates would change that
apparently would undermine the fragile system.
The cost of cards.
Yes, the dominoes exactly
the wrong
word. The House of Cards Thank you. fragile system equal House
of Cards. Yes. That that's what I
don't know. I don't think that's going to happen. I think this is
a bluff.
By whom? Who's the bluff bye
I think is by everybody. I think the Democrats are bluffing. The
Republicans are bluffing the President's bluffing. They're
all trying to make the other guys look bad. This is the kind
of government we have working for us. We have Republicans
blamed for everything by the President. Because they don't
even when they this is it's it's it's all you know, they each
side has their little bull crap. The Republican corner the
president, the Republicans want to take it or leave it, you have
to do everything we say. Hello. Oh, and then the Republicans say
is my way or the highway, according to Obama, they say
Obama just say we will try to meet with him. He says it's my
way or the highway. So both sides are pretty much saying the
same thing about the other side. And what's ironic, of course, is
that the Republicans are doing the worst job of public
relations on this and they look like the bad guys. Because you
know, they're against, you know, health care there. It makes them
look, they just do really mediocre.
Yeah, they do kind of look like incredible eight holes.
Yeah, they put themselves in this position. Both sides of the
eight holes, but it's beside the point, the RIP.
Now hold on a second, John Holman before you before you go
anything. Okay, the we're back. Hello. Hello. All right. So,
while we had the recording on pause, we figured it all out. We
know exactly what's happening is too bad. We can't share it with
anybody.
Yeah, it's a shame. It was too complicated.
So you were basically saying that this is all one big bluff.
And this has always been our thesis that this is just one big
show. It's all you know, well, media attention. But you know,
when you bankers getting in on it? Yes. That's new. That's new.
Yeah. But don't forget my other thesis, which is the idea as you
can make the market move up and down. You can make a lot of
money. Yeah,
but this is what I don't understand. Because the market
in West they're all short on the market and then ready for the
market has only been kind of going up, hasn't it?
The market wants to go up. Yeah. Yeah, but the numbers don't make
sense. There's no reason for the market want to go up so much?
Because it's really we're still in the cannabis. stagnant air,
you know, era, but okay.
Well, okay, so you're saying all of this is being done just for
personal profit and gain?
That would be my basic thesis about everything.
And I'm done with it. It's just like, wow, okay. So this is the
biggest pump and dump I've seen in a while this kind of
benefits. Last 50 cents pump.
They have lots of money, you know, pump and dump schemes
generally involve penny stocks. And it's like, you know, you can
move them pretty quickly with, but if you have billions of
dollars to move in and out of the market, you can't just
casually do that. No, because it moves the market too much. But
if you have the market pre moved by a bunch of bull crap, then
you can make these kinds of moves. It's
funny because we were at on Friday, Miss Mickey and I were
at ride, which is where we are still doing a John twice a week
go into the spin class. And so the owner and his, I think his
wife owns it, or the whatever, they own it together. But he's a
banker, and he is in New York. He works for Deutsche Bank, and
he's in New York, I think three or four days out of the week.
And then he has an apartment there and he flies back to to
Austin for the other half of the week throughout the weekend. And
he's always on the phone. But he's a nice guy. No, I mean, we
just spoke we're supposed to have dinner that hasn't worked
out whatever. But whenever I see him walking out the parking
garage he's always pacing outside you know how I used to
be in the pod show days member be outside outside smoking,
smoking on the phone the whole time phone to my head, you're on
a conference call or some crap like that. And he's even
noticing himself that this is kind of weird. Oh, there I'm
sorry. I was because he always he he participates in some of
the classes today. Oh, there it was again on the phone. You
know, I said yeah. Banker so yeah. Banker. So I said, it must
be a great business, you know, get all that free money. And
then you know, you just get to invest it and you you bought you
borrow it for 0.03%. And then you make 2% on it. And he looks
at me goes like you're not one of those in the Fed guys are
Yeah. And I was and I'm like, oh shit, like, and I pulled a
divorce rack. I went, No, no, man, I think we should be doing
$800 billion into the market every month. I don't think we're
doing enough. We gotta get out of this. We got to pump in 10
times as much. But like, you could just see him going. I'm
really confused. Like, wait a minute. Does this guy really
know what's going on? It's the best thing ever. So thank you.
Thank you for saving me.
You're welcome. And I stick with that I'm not insincere when I
say this.
I know you're not. Which is what I that morning. Like if I say
uh, yeah, like, I think we should end the Fed. This will
never have dinner with them. You know, it's gonna mess up any
relationships. Like we can't have this. Like, yeah, yeah, no,
man. I'm all for it, and go Jelle whatever her name is,
Ellie. Yeah. She's gonna rock. Alright, so we have like five
days and then we'll see we'll see what happens with it. seems
to me that if you look at now, because there's a video that's
been floating around, I didn't clip it. But in the House of
Representatives, they essentially passed a vote that
made it so that no resolution or Bill can come on to the floor
unless it's brought to the floor by I think it was Mitch
McConnell for some reason, I don't know exactly how no
Boehner being Oh, no, no, no, it was McConnell, Boehner, it gets
the gets to do it or something. Again, this only came in this
morning, so I haven't vetted at all, but apparently, there's no
other way it can happen. So they are in complete control of this
process. And we know that several people have been voted
in who said to their constituents, I will, I will
stake my entire reputation on killing Obamacare for you.
That's what then that's what they were voted and they're not
going to change their vote because they'll get shot.
Exactly. Yeah. Well, no, if you if you go to some little area,
and you promised the some specific thing you're going to
do, because this group wants you to do it. And they say, Okay,
we're voting in the end, because we want you to do this. This is
it. This is the one thing it would be
like this, it would be if I said, Okay, vote me into
Congress. And I'll be your Congressman. And I guarantee you
that I will work towards the legalization. Federal
legalization, even though it's not necessary of marijuana, and
a vote came up and I went, Oh, well, you know, we can
compromise. I wouldn't be railroaded out of town. That's
why you voted me in and how many that's I guess what they're
calling the Tea Party. Which by itself, is bullshit. Was that
total bull? Bullshit. They would totally hijacked something that
existed way before.
Yeah. Let's remind everybody that the original Tea Party was
really Ron Paul's operation. Yeah. And every time they took a
straw vote on who should be the next president is always Ron
Paul. Yeah. And when CPAC had a big meeting, and they took a
straw poll, Ron Paul always won. And so then they finally
hijacked the whole thing to get Ron Paul out of there. And even
at CPAC, they won't put his name up. And that would be
Yeah. And you've got to question his motives at this point.
What's the there's so much weirdness going on in the world?
But regardless, they just hijacked this brand of the Tea
Party. And now it's everyone's a terrorist. And it's just the
whole thing. And so like, I don't see it coming to a happy
resolution. So we're going to hit that five days. And then
What the Oh, they're not,
it's not going to they're they don't have the guts, literally,
to see what would happen if they if they actually failed to raise
the debt limit. Alright, so you're, you're
you're putting that in the book?
Yeah, no, they'll do it. If it'll be at the last minute.
It'll be it'll be like for six months or something. They'll do
some little thing, right?
continued resolution, and then everybody will take credit for
it. Right. Okay. Okay, Mom, I'll take credit for it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If at the last minute, there's
some form of resolution and the limit is is raised you and I
take credit for it, my friend. Okay, we did it. We saved the
entire economy of the world from the brink.
But someone's going to profit, I guarantee is not going
to be us because we don't know what the hell we're doing.
That's okay. Because we
know how to analyze news. We just don't know how to profit
from these scams we do how we're not inside the scam. That's the
problem. We're
not but we have people who support this program. And that's
why I'd like to say, oh, it's funny to you, John C. Dvorak.
It's funny to say that because you know what happens after you
reboot a computer you
need to open your spreadsheet again. I have to go all
the way back into the mail system. Log in let me explain
how this works. I have to log in and then I have to scroll down
where to I find Eric the shield's spreadsheet in there.
And then I have to click on the download button and open with
Microsoft Excel and then it opens that's what I have to do.
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out of imbeciles oh the terror factory Nice.
Yeah, it sounds like a book to read the couple arrested in
Canada for plotting a July 1 Canada Day terrorist bombing
fits the cycle perfect as neighbors report a couple of
being too stupid to make bombs would love to get some more
karma and a fractal if you can find it. And he has his
accounting here for no yes
absolutely. You've got karma nice Tara factory and we'll look
that one up it sounds like you're getting like an
interstate old
bear Borislav Marin off out of Aliso Viejo, California. Can you
send some house buying karma? So I don't get outbid this was
happening now again. Yeah. And the sellers accept my lowball.
Thank you for congratulations on your six Yeah,
lowball karma coming your way Boris love got karma mad enough.
And finally, sir upstart, Josh Josh Charles in East Melbourne,
Victoria $200. And he says there's a note I can't Find you
know, Josh
sure I have I have the note so somehow sir upstart Josh and a
cast of 1000s there have created slave mart.co And we I think we
promoted it but then we kind of lost touch with it. And you have
to have you seen this slave Mart dot CEO this is a quite an it's
a store and they have puts it in the and this is a store with the
essentially their own made up no agenda swag. Oh, let me just go
to it myself. And they've made like fantastic shirts and wood
designs I've never seen before. Everything cost $33. Of course,
we want you to shut up slave. They've got Have you seen this
thing?
And looking at it now to all sharing the pictures yet every
models pictures got a guy given the finger with
a gas mask with the gas masks. But it's like a shirt to all
ships at sea. So this is in Australia.
So this makes things easy to ship stuff there. So
I think so. I don't know. It's an Australian operation is an
Australian operation, isn't it?
It'd be 33 Australian dollars. So a good group of shirt
designs, including you some of these are very artistic, very
hard. The inline one Attack of the Killer drone. Yeah. Got a
poster. So she sent me a copy of this poster. So
somehow I don't know we we didn't actually they were very
mad. And I sent a very mad email.
Did you look at the picture the guy had given the fingers he
obviously mad all the time. No.
And then he said like you don't support the store. And then you
know we've gotten money for and I'm like, like Eric, though. And
maybe this Eric with the gas mask on? I don't know. But I was
like, Oh man, but yeah, and then I went in there close the store.
They were so mad. You'd like password only I'm like, I don't
even I don't know, man. So I said I'm sorry. You know, we saw
kind of almost like, you know, sorry, dude. We're kind of busy
like doing the show. That's what we're good at.
And we're like this Attack of the Killer drones poster.
Nice one. It is a nice one. So we highly appreciate what you
guys are doing. And we put you Oh, there's
a picture of the poster on a wall. Yeah. How big is this
poster doesn't say
nice sized poster. It
looks huge. I
think it's probably a good poster.
All right, there's your plug. Slave mart.ca You're in
Australia want to get some swag from the from Buddha had no
agenda show. This is fine.
You'll never hear from us. Yeah. We'll never hear from us again.
He just dropped a $20 donation and he gets gets his old.
That's that's our that's our vague. That sold some stuff,
apparently. And that's our take
somebody there's an artist,
right? Somebody's an artist. Yeah.
It could be Yeah. Somebody's an artist. All right. Well, thanks,
guys. We that's our show our donations from the show five,
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native advertising. Thank you for putting that into the
newsletter. That was a good one. Yeah, we
should probably discuss that a little bit. Because we discussed
it. You have talked about it on the show. I didn't realize it
was so rapid. Yeah.
And also, as a PR mentioned, Brad writer, set up an IFTT. For
us you familiar with this phenomenon not familiar with
this at all by FTT is If This Then That. And so he has added
an IFT T T. It's a recipe as his crazy stuff. But you you sign up
for this thing. And now if we know how we send out the bad
signal, and if you have the no agenda app, then you get a
notification. Yeah, beep beep beep if you add this IFTT recipe
to your account, you'll get a text message when we fire the
bad signal,
nice yeah, I'm
like well, yeah, that's we should have had that 10 years
ago.
Well make a total show 10 years ago but that's fine.
And it made even more sense because last night Miss Mickey
got a government giant voice system on her iPhone.
What did it tell her to do?
Stay indoors flash flood in your area until 2am
There's no flash flood in your area it was last night. Yeah. In
your in your specific area your your debt low at your zero
altitude.
There were flash floods all over Austin last night. Yeah. But it
was interesting because we've never had one of those and she
has the new iPhone or the iPhone, not the new one. But she
has an iPhone five. And I guess with iOS six, not seven but six.
They included the government alerts and it's Oh yeah, you
gotta do that. Yeah. And she said, oh my god because it was
gonna rip rip rip rip. Because I told her Do not turn that off.
You know, we have to know how this works and this was the
first time and we got a giant voice system alert.
It didn't come in sound like voices.
No. No unfortunately not now then just has a message. I'm
like how stupid I mean you should have been here last
night. How stupid do you have to be to know that they're the not
know they're a flash floods. It was coming out of the heaven
like like buck with buckets like, you know, like swimming
pools were overturned. I didn't need the government to inform me
of the flash flood believe me. But this is the dumbing down of
the populace.
Yeah, I know. You had to be led around by the nose. Exactly.
Otherwise, it's like, you know, what's the point
I thank you very much. Everybody appreciated. Our executive
producers, Associate Executive producers. As you know what,
again, these credits are completely valid anywhere where
credits are taken. And please continue to go and propagate our
formula. Our formula is this. We go out. We get people in the
mouth.
And I would like to say thank you for your courage. John.
Thank you for your courage.
And today by presidential proclamation. General Polaski.
Memorial Day, congratulations. general philosophy by
presidential proclamation. International Day of the Girl.
Today's the day the girl
today is the day of the girl might have been yesterday. I'll
actually have I have watermelon head talking about that. He did
a whole thing on it. I find this
guy, this guy. So he's over here. He's over there. I went to
the State Department website to try to look for a clip. I
couldn't find anything with while but he's like, get
meetings. He's at conferences. He's in Afghanistan. One minute.
He's in Paris meeting with somebody the next minute. Then
he's in New York City giving a keynote at some bull crap. Yeah,
seminar loves it.
This is what he's doing traveling more than Hillary.
This is what he's dreamed of. And he gets to do the same
little, you know, Happy International Day of the Girl
thing as
the father of two daughters. I know. Dave Joe, that is
unacceptable. I believe with all my heart that supporting the
rights of girls is the moral and just thing to do
this. How about kids in general.
And as someone who sits today in the same chair, were
extraordinary women like Hillary Rodham Clinton, Condoleezza
Rice, and Madeleine Albright. Yeah,
three women who I do not want to bump into in a dark alleyway
set before me. I know that it's also the smart thing to do.
Yeah, because investing in girls is a critical part of our duty
to promote prosperity, security, and peace around the world.
Common sense tells us that empowered girls grow up to be
empowered women.
Oh, hold on a second. Let me just write this down. Empowered
girls grow up to be empowered women, okay. They grew
up to a girl entail empowered mothers, leaders and innovators
that grew up to make the world a better place, thanks to a number
of global partnerships and programs led by the State
Department. Okay, are
you ready? Are you ready for the departments of the State
Department's programs? Wait for I love these,
like tech girls, tech girls, tech girl.
Let's find this program. Tech girls. Again, tech. Tech girls,
I guess State Department we'd have to do Oh, and Google
already knows State Department. Let's see tech girls. Maybe we
can get in on this if we wear a dress.
US you anyway.
US Department of State tech women are tech empowering girls.
Here it is. State Department's techie exchange program for
teenage girls. Ah, yeah, with all this bull crap. Maybe that's
what Ah, now it makes sense. You know, this thing about Twitter
has no women on their board and there's no women in tech and all
this bull crap
is bullcrap. Just tons of well, I
know but this is part of it. This is part of it. This is now
Now it makes sense. No, no. But this tech girls,
you know, like the one like they did CEO of the one of the
largest corporate real large real corporation that have on
paper Corporation is IBM is a woman. Yeah. You got Marissa
Meyer over here. She's a one. There's a bunch of women in
tech. A lot of the small companies are run by women.
Yeah, a lot of them. Hey,
I don't know about you, but my house is run by a woman. There
you go. I'm not running anything here. I'm a worker bee. Next
scholars next scholars. Yeah,
and great USA ID programs like Safe Schools, safe schools.
We have made important progress. Yeah. Good work, watermelon
head. And also today by presidential proclamation, blind
Americans Equality Day. And I would like you to know that we
do a lot for the blind. In fact, we do five hours a week for the
blind, right? The show is, yeah, well, so I got an email here
from David, the tech guy, David, the tech guy.com. Hi, my name is
David. I'm blind and autistic. And that's a combo right there.
Hi, I listen to no agenda. I'm blind and autistic.
Congratulations.
Yeah, that's the kind of, well, that's fine. Good for me. I
don't care.
I just got my twice weekly dose of the best drug ever. No
agenda? Ah, no, think about it. And then we've we've looked at
what the blind get when it comes to. Programming sucks. Oh, yeah,
it sucks. It's so weird. Actually. I think we're doing a
real service. Like somebody
mentioned to me, they said, they were looking at one of these
government health websites. And it says if you're blind and
blah, blah, blah. You can't read this. How do you know that?
Well, we remember we were talking about the cadence of the
the guy in the Assistant Attorney General in Connecticut.
Right. Which was a we believe there's a blind cadence. Yes.
Well, David, the tech guy.com says, I think I know why blind
people have a weird cadence while talking because we use a
screen reader with a horrible voice chord called eloquence or
deck talk. Unfortunately, I don't have we don't have much
material in Braille. So we have to listen to most of our
materials with these with these crazy, stupid voices. I believe
that when we listen to the computer for years, we fall into
this robotic speech pattern. I find myself having to yank
myself out of it because I get teased at school about it.
Really? You're teasing the blind autistic kid kind of an asshole,
aren't you? Yeah. I'm not worried about teasing but think
it needs working on so that I don't look like a freak in a job
interview or an important event that I will need to go through
to get a job. I've been bullied because of my disabilities and
believe you take it in the correct way. You can make
yourself a stronger person and build your character up by the
way. I've wanted to be a sysadmin from the time I touched
the computer when I get out of high school. I'll do whatever it
takes to achieve this and will not SAP Social Security off the
taxpayers of America. By the way, I'm 16 would love to donate
when it become free from my parents have a job? I'll donate
at least a knighthood. David you keep going man. David the tech
guy.com You keep going. This is I like this as a kid 16 In high
school, listening to no agenda, getting bullied and just saying
Foghat. Nice. I like that. That's the kind of listener I
want.
Another day, another day, we might be overlooking and look
Vander helms sent us this note use. Did you see it? Is Happy
International failure day in Finland. It's
funny. I was like, I don't know if I should do this one. I'm
doing it. Yeah, talk about it. So
it's yeah, in celebrate International failure day
failures, the lat and their logic, by the way, is
impeccable, which is typically the offense. Now some of the
smartest people in the world, their educational system is the
best. And they deconstructed the entrepreneurial system in the
United States. And it's based largely on failure. If you start
a small little tech company, you maybe can get some money, right
right off the bat and you get and then you fail. If you fail
once, you'll get more money for the next one, because it's seen
as a benefit. And so if you've failed the second time, you'll
get even more money for your third effort. Because you now
really understand the situation. You know how it works failed,
the more money you get. And so they figured this out and they
say failure is the last taboo and finish the site. According
to the group behind the day. They encourage people to cast
off their inhibitions and lose their fear of messing up which
apparently is a problem in Finland. The many current
business leaders have gone from one failure to the next and the
events main organizer, the most interesting and interesting
things are not successful, the often rough growth stories that
have led to success. And he says the students say they believe
that overcoming the fear of failure is nothing short of a
lifetime, or a lifeline. I'm sorry for creative types. So
that's actually a good thing. And that's today. That's that's
that today's problems with the podcast already international
failure day. That's right. I failed in many things.
Yeah, you can't help it. You betcha. Thanks. Sorry, Jesus.
Leave me wide open for these gags
Well, speaking of big fish, Nail. This was quite a surprise
and Norwegian
Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2013
is to be awarded to the Organization for the Prohibition
of Chemical Weapons of BC W. For its extensive work for
eliminating chemical weapons.
You know, these guys, if anyone needs the curry Devorah
Consulting Group, it's this outfit.
I mean, they just they look at their day to day seem to look
over all the news stories. What is everyone talking about? Let's
give them a prize. That's how Obama got his award. But
then, but last year, they gave it to the entire European Union.
You know, right, because it was in the news a lot. These guys
were terrible. The Norwegian Peace Prize guys. Stink.
I don't understand. I mean, they had a brand. You know, it was
Mother Teresa. It was Nelson Mandela. I think, maybe even
Martin Luther King.
Let's take a look.
I think yeah, what's it I think Martin Luther King got the note
that these are? Well, it's his prize. I mean, this was a big
deal. And now, but it was supposed to be it's an
individual or, you know, it could be two individuals if they
had like a partnership or something. But then who neutered
these guys?
I think it's the US that's doing this. The CIA's taken over the
place.
Why? Why? Yeah. Why? I don't understand why.
What do they can show because the conversation right now is
about, we've noticed this already. They have changed the
entire dialogue. They've changed the script. They've changed the
narrative of the of the Syrian thing. And this draws attention
to it. And everything draws attention to whatever's going on
that that benefits us. I do have a clip showing exactly how the
narrative is changing in Syria. And it's, it's like I'm
listening to this going. For one thing that they're gonna do.
This is a report of something that happened a few months back,
and it's like, Are you kidding me with this? And where's Mike
was clip is it?
I got it right here. Yeah, Human Rights Watch charged today that
rebels in Syria killed at least 190 civilians and kidnap more
than 200 others in attacks on August 4, it happened during a
rebel offensive in the coastal province of Lattakia. Witnesses
told of entire families being executed. Human Rights Watch
says Islamist groups, including to link to al Qaeda led the
offensive.
The coordinated nature, and advanced planning that went into
this operation shows that this was not just the work of some
rogue fighters within these rebel groups, but rather this
was a planned attack against the civilian population. For that
reason, we do believe that the abuses amount to our may amount
to crimes against humanity, they certainly amount to war crimes.
Now the thing you have to when you listen to this report, which
is definitely a narrative change, to keep us off the okay
series over that we've done a deal with the Russians, whatever
has happened has happened in our data there. And now we're going
to turn the tables on these these rebels with this new
narrative, right. The question in my mind is when I'm listening
to this human rights person going on about the crimes
against humanity, when she says that was planned in advance, how
does she know this? Is she is this an intelligence operation,
they got moles in the place and they can give this it's she's
just making she made, I believe this is not only happened
probably did because there's there's a, an ethnic struggle
between the alga whites, and they've mentioned that and the
and the Sunnis. So that's not a
struggle. It's an attack, dalla White's had been sent in to
actually attack by, you
know, the allo whites or the or the Assad side. These are the
guys that were sent in from probably Ha, Hezbollah or
whoever. And they, they're attacking the allies, because
there's two tribes that are fighting and this is the rebels
are all the bad guys right now. They're the bad guys, which is
what they should have been from the get go. And they're trying
to kill the allo whites. And this is a crime against
humanity. They're assassinating families. And but this has been
going on since the beginning. Yeah, if we pay careful
attention to it. But we didn't have the narrative. We wanted to
get whatever deal we got with the Russians, which is now over
here. And that peace prize plays right into this into this new
narrative. And I think that all of these have been playing into
it, from Nelson Mandela, to Well,
let's look at this because I've just pulled up the list and
you'll be able to help a little bit with the state of the world
in these particular times. So in 1963, the Red Cross one, but it
was 100 years of existence. 1990 64 Martin Luther King Jr.
and they're pretty much killed him. And after that, didn't
they? We had 1965, UNICEF 1969 International Labor
Organization. So it's not it's then we have
to remember there's no prize and 66 and 67 during the Vietnam.
Right not awarded. You're absolutely right. Why was it?
Well, they did the narrative for the Vietnam War was never
wasn't, wasn't fully resolved. They didn't know quite how to
deal
with it. I guess it could have given it to somebody else.
They've dealt with they're gonna give you could you give him the
whole Chi Minh for all we know,
so this is very suspect that they just have a whole 66 and 67
and then
take a look. 6667 And also it's well, 68 There is one but it's
was written and
then 73 We get Kissinger
that There you go. Yeah, exactly. Hey, can I get one of
these? Yeah. And then we have Henry Kissinger, if you think
about it, get a Nobel Peace Prize ever.
And then Amnesty International got it and 77 Saddam in 78,
which was combined with the men on him begging Mother Teresa and
79 then it went to United Nations High Commissioner for
Refugees and 81. To two and 84 electoral lens. 83 actually
skipped him just doing the big names 85. It was the
international physicians for the prevention of nuclear war. Well,
that must have been the height of the Cold War.
Well, it was definitely before the wall fell,
right. Then we got Ely weasel, who was the big Holocaust guy in
86. Then 88, United Nations peacekeeping forces
see what was the Dalai Lama because we're trying to you
know, we're negotiating with China. Right, right. And we're
trying to get trying to give them the needle. Yeah, we're
giving you the Dalai Lama
and in 93, it's Nelson Mandela and Vilem. The cleric. Both the
that was the whole South Africa thing. Okay. Then we got
we also had to Gorbachev in 90 You gotta don't like him.
Yeah. 2001. So if you now look at this in 2006, it was a cobia
Nandu wasn't even part of a corrupt operation who had
the food for oil? Yeah. For oil. But think about it. How cool is
the name kofi.
Kofi school?
I mean, that's just that's a
macaroni.
That's macaroni right? Yes, Kofi is macaroni. And then we have a
bank. The Grameen Bank, Al Gore in 2007. With the IPCC. Yeah,
look at that. It's the IPCC and Al Gore shared the Nobel Peace
Prize in 2007. That's when, when the movie there was movie
promotion time. Now this thing's rigged. And then so there's a
couple people in between gotta get
the gun to their head, hey, I want to live yours or you give
it to.
It's very interesting. I might as well get into this now. So
here it is. Let me play this clip for you. Here it is. Listen
very carefully. This is Erin Burnett, talking about Snowden.
And on the on the box. She's got Valerie Plame, a known CIA
operative who was outed actually,
right. She's got a lot more background. She just came out
with a book. And so she's on a book tour booked and they're all
different booking or on anyone who's part of the Council on
Foreign Relations. They she's on their show. It's hilarious to
watch this.
So there's a couple things that are interesting. One is I did
some research on this award, which I want to share with you.
But listen to what now we know that she CIA. So listen, there's
something very specific that the way CIA people talk about
Snowden.
Well, now awarding the NSA leaker Edward Snowden, the man
responsible for
this clip is great. I know exactly what clip this is, but I
haven't had a follow up. Okay, follow up. yanking top
secret US intelligence is actually being honored by four
Americans who used to work for the US government. They met
Snowden in Moscow, where he has been hiding since August to give
him the Sam Adams Award for integrity.
And intelligence, by the way, has nothing to do with beer.
Now this came as his father arrived in Moscow to see your
son for the first time since this happened, saying his son is
now trying to look for a job. A friend tonight former covert CIA
operative, Valerie Plame, you'll recover a recall of course, her
cover was blown in 2003 at that time by a member of the Bush
administration, and she is now the author of a new book called
blowback. Listen carefully. Good to have you with us, Valerie. I
really appreciate it. Do you think Edward Snowden I mean,
I'll cut straight to it. A lot of people hear this they're
probably cheering for him and some are just appalled. Does he
deserve an award? For integrity and intelligence. One thing is
we know for certain is we would not even be having this
conversation about the appropriate balance of security
versus privacy. If it were not for Snowden revelations and
President Obama had spoken about the need to have a really robust
conversation about this because it goes right to the heart of
the Fourth Amendment. I think ultimately, history will tell
exactly where Ed Snowden falls on that line.
Okay. Did you hear it? I don't, you probably didn't, you
probably did. What was it? She is CIA. Everybody in the
universe is talking about Edward Snowden. Mr. Snowden, and all of
a sudden she says Ed Snowden. Okay. Now, Cooper is also
talking about this award award ceremony. We know that Anderson
Cooper worked for the CIA. Right? This is admitted. Listen
to
Cooper breaking news. Tonight we're hearing from someone who
has met very recently with NSA leaker Edward Snowden in Moscow
to some the former NSA contractor is a criminal a
traitor, a fugitive from the United States holed up somewhere
in Russia charged by US officials with espionage for
leaking secrets about the government surveillance tactics
to others, though Snowden is nothing short of a hero, a
courageous whistleblower. This is just his script that he's
reading. And now he's been honored by a group of former US
intelligence officers who gave him an award at a ceremony in
Moscow. The award is from the Sam Adams associates for
integrity and intelligence named for late CIA analyst, former CIA
analyst Ray McGovern is in Russia at the ceremony. Just
spend the evening with Ed Snowden. I spoke with him on the
phone.
Right, how was Ed Snowden doing? Alright, so when you're in the
CIA, it's Ed. It's all about Ed, as well.
That's a great catch. And I borderline Clip of the Day I
don't know why don't want to give it to you.
That's okay. That's okay. But let me let me just get into the
but first of
all, I do want to mention that his script was the same as Aaron
sorry, they had just reversed the
order. But but when they're both off script, not Aaron. Edie,
it's Edie. And so so we know that this is a we our thesis is
CIA fighting NSA. And in the New York Times, they essentially
admitted our theory, the CIA, in 2009, when Edward Snowden was
working for the CIA officially thought that he would probably
try to break into the NSA systems to expose the NSA. They
didn't tell the NSA, they sent him home. They didn't like do
anything other than Well, you know, you know, Hey, man, you
shouldn't do that officially, but maybe we can work out a
deal.
So let's do that in
the New York Times our theory has been essentially proof
routed yes proven so and I'm like wow, this is fantastic.
Then I'm like, What is this Sam Adams Award? So it because no
one asked what that is? And it's just like, oh, this is
fantastic. And I'm looking at comments on the on the interweb
people gonna like it's about time you should receive an award
this is grand like what is this award the Sam Adams This is the
according to the book of knowledge given annually by the
Sam Adams associates for integrity in intelligence. And
like, whoa, what does that even mean? It turns out this is a
part of G AP, the Government Accountability Project, which
you can find@whistleblower.org And I'm sorry, but this is
bullshit. This is a nonprofit. Oh, we have couple million
dollars in the in the coffer there and I of course I pulled
the form 994 You none of these guys, by the way. They're just
as bad as I am. They haven't filed their 2012 taxes either.
But if you look at what they do these give you what they tell
the IRS. The Government Accountability Project is a 35
year old nonprofit public interest group that promotes
government and corporate accountability by advancing
occupational free speech defending whistleblowers and
empowering citizen activists. Here is what the say is their
their number one mode their their proudest moment in their
tooth in their in their form 990 filing for the IRS. These are
the guys behind the pink slime scandal. This is what they do.
Well, so they are a lobbying group. They spend over a million
dollars on lobbying. This is not some like really odes these are
just CIA guys who are rewarding Ed Snowden for being such a
great whistleblower. No, that's total bullshit. Is a lobbying
group. They hold the gun to people's heads. They're at
16 12k Street, NW Suite. 1100 Oh, gee, let's What else is
there? Besides the Government Accountability Project well
Well, we have climate science watch architects USA. This is
all the all the climate science people are at this address,
including the Washington DC floors, which I find kind of
strange. US Department of Transportation watch group.
These are lobbyists. lobbyist, this Snowden some something is
hijacked?
Well, I think the CIA probably hired the lobbyists to give them
an award exam about that. Exactly, exactly. And here's
what the giveaway is, to me, when you look at their list of
all the people they've given the awards to. Where's Thomas Drake
and Binney, and we beat that guy, all these NSA
whistleblowers that ended up being tracked, like dogs, and
there's lives ruined, and they went out of their way to stay on
top of this, they never even were mentioned in this no
service
for you. You don't get an award.
Those are the guys who should be getting awards instead of this
woman and some of these other people I've never heard of.
Exactly. Let's look, you know, Frank, see Andrew Wilkie think
of just one randomly Craig Murray, was Craig Murray. What
did he do?
But the thing that really annoys me is that this is how
ethical activist, and bad okay, he's not in the even in it. It's
supposed to be for intelligence. It should be in the intelligence
community. Where are these NSA guys listed anyway? Go on. I'm
sorry. Well, no.
So the point I'm making is that here you have a CIA operation to
bring Snowden back into the news. They had to bring him
back. And so his dad went over, which is not his dad. Lon
Snowden is not Ed Snowden. His dad, he's like, he says, contact
his handler. Maybe that's what they call it. Oh, yeah. He's my
dad.
That's the new term collide, dad. That's right, daddy
daddio daddio. So he goes over there that got no traction. So
then, like, oh, let's do an award show. And if you look at
our T, they have video of it and you know, the shitty audio then
they mute the audio. You can't hear it. They're having dinner.
It's like five people having dinner. And that's an award
ceremony to give the guy a candle. A candlestick? Which is
the symbol for whistleblowing, apparently.
Well, it's leading to the light. And so light and sandals and you
can see the truth
and this is like the JD Power and Associates award. You know,
this is like one of these like, if you want you can basically
buy that. You buy the research and JD Power and Associates will
give you an award for whatever category you want. It's like the
who's who book. My favorite. Remember that? That was going
on.
People still tell Oh, I'm into booze? Who? Are they? How much
you had to pay for the book?
Yeah, I got the bound copy. Yeah, who's who
the bad guys paid 500 bucks. I'll see. You know, when I go to
people's houses, once in a while, I very rarely get invited
out. But I sometimes I do. And so I show up if I see and I
doesn't happen too often. Because most people that I know
have a lot of integrity, and they don't fall for this
bullcrap. But if I see somebody's who's who in America,
or who's who in California, or who's who in tech, or any of
these phony books, I just think they so they paid to put their
name in this book, they're in there you know, I wouldn't have
the book who would have this book otherwise, and it's just
the weirdest you know your name here scam and it's filled with
people and they charge like 500 bucks I forgot what the fee is
for those books. But you did give you the listing for free is
how it works. Get the list so you get the listing for free and
then you have the opportunity to buy the book for 500 bucks at
300 bucks or whatever it costs.
You can get different levels if you want the bound leather bound
copy you know
there's not just started there's no paperback version now. And
you get the book and then you put it on your bookshelf and
then your kids can see oh look my my father my mother they're
so famous and you can flip through it and I'll have a bunch
of details in there
less usually you got an idea I just had a money making idea
the no agenda because who was who
in quantum physics
money that you're making any more money than that? Yeah, I'm
in the on page 33 of who's who and quantum physics would you
like to see my penis we could do a whole series you know
this is like to be in the who's who of quantum physics Hell
yeah.
What else can we do the who's who have financial fractal
analysis. Then what else can we come up with?
In great love making the who's
who? Oh no. How about the great love? Really John is how is this
man the who's who have great lovemaking. Now, I'm not going
to buy that. How about the forever the who's who have jet
tests. Pilots air devils dead the who's who have black belt
taekwondo masters. Yes, I am on page 29. This is an idea.
Up create a bogus title and your friends in it by the finance 60
bucks.
It's great. It's great.
So yeah, this is it looks like one of those kinds of things. So
it's a meanwhile, but they did a good job. They did get a lot of
attention so that this yes, it's exactly what
you want. You want you want to get the attention that got the
attention. And that's all that it's about. I mean,
unfortunately, it's on the network that you know, can't buy
an audience. In both cases, you know, burn it and pooper.
Oh, yeah, no, those guys are done. Yeah,
no, they're totally, I mean, even the rumor is that Piers
Morgan is getting thrown out, or move back later. And they're
bringing in what is his name? We're Bob Weir, something from
ABC Nightline, or something
known as Bob Weir from the Grateful Dead that would get a
better audio that'd be that'd be good.
Because apparently, Rachel Maddow is even getting more
ratings than Piers Morgan now.
Oh, that's gotta be human.
Well send that aihole back. Now his his his careers over here.
He ever had a career here? Nobody likes him tried. He's a
British snob. Yeah. You're telling us how to run our lives.
Yeah. Do you sons and how can we be so stupid? Yeah.
NPR had a very good report, I have to say they did about 10.
You know, I've stopped carrying a cell phone. And it's working
out quite well. I say this. Now. It's true. I carry around, I
have a third generation iPod touch with iOS six. And I keep
the Wi Fi off until I'm ready to use it. And I built up a nice
little database of places that I'm that I'm at that I can
connect. But you know, there's no cell phone tower tracking or
anything like that going on. And also, it's just like, I don't
need it. You can get a hold of me. Yeah. Okay. Like it was like
sometimes you say, Oh, the newsletter, have a look at it.
You send me a text message. And I don't get back to you for like
45 minutes, right? That's because I'm out. And you know,
does the newsletter get? Did we prove it? Is it okay? Does it
work? It works, right? It doesn't have to be instantaneous
connection. Yeah. And, and also, I find that I'm not, you know,
if I'm in the car with Mickey, we're talking. I'm not on the
phone looking at bullcrap. Now we're listening to the radio or
listen to some music or singing, singing songs together. So it
has enriched
to sing songs together as you're driving down the road. We sing
songs all the time. Together as you're driving down the road.
Yeah. Who's driving Mickey usually to make his driving the
two of your swing goes swinging your heads back and forth
singing songs. Yeah. As you're driving around. Yeah.
Yes. Wow. Yeah. Just without the radio just singing a song.
Yeah, no, that's what I'm figuring. Yeah, true. True
story.
Anyway, so NPR had a big thing about you know, of course, you
no one gives a crap. No, everyone was getting used to it
because that was the whole plans. Oh, well, Oh, yeah. It's
now a punch line. But it's a punch line on twit, essentially,
what the NSA knows. It's not like the punchline to every joke
now in technology. But
the NSA has the backup what is not just on twit, it's
everywhere. It's on TV shows. It's on sitcoms, it's on law and
order. I think it's on as half of these shows on TV. It's
it's become a punchline. And they had something that I
thought I would share because it was a good piece of information.
Of course, it wasn't just pure NPR reporting. They're brought
in someone else to do the research. Apparently, you are
actually not apparently you would be surprised at the
information that's available who can get it and for what reason,
particularly those of you who are in the who's who have best
lovers of the universe. So
history helps answer our question. Is it conceivable that
somebody someday might try to use your digital records against
you? Today? television ad helps answer that question, too. How
did our
marriage ever come to this? The decision to get a divorce isn't
easy. Ali Rosen
I hear that divorce lawyers like you are crazy about the internet
and about the rest of our digital world. Well, it's what
the literally the floodgates of data have opened up to us visit
rosen.com to learn more. Lee Rosen's law firm is based in
Raleigh, North Carolina. He says you might not realize it, but
North Carolina and some other states consider private lawyers
to be officers of the court. So his staff can issue subpoenas a
lot like prosecutors can, so they can pick up evidence on
people like cheating spouses. Just the other day Rosen asked
his assistant to fill out a new subpoena and a child custody
case. So we're going to ask for All the cellular billing and
usage statements, right? Okay. He says they send out dozens of
subpoenas every month, read it to me, please send
any available geo location tower or GPS data from one 111 to
present
perfect, go ahead and print that one for me. And, and I'll sign
it and we'll go from there. Rows and staff subpoenas, people's
bank records and travel records and credit card statements, I
sort of think of your credit card as the table of contents of
your life. And he says text messages are like the whole
book, hardly anything proves adultery so easily. Everything
is right there in the text messages, everything from what
time we're going to meet and where we're going to meet to how
much we love one another to what we're going to do or what we did
do in a hotel room or in the somebody's apartment or the
backseat of a car.
Yeah, there you go. The unit bomber was right.
I don't know why this surprises anybody.
No, it doesn't surprise me. But I think what you should do,
though,
is just make up an invisible friend. Take another one. And
get Yeah. And then get a second account. You know, from some
hottie, you know, put a picture up. And I actually have a fake
account of that I've been working on a project with with
with a hottie. Oh, yeah. Are you?
Are you a woman in? Don't tell me I had sex with you in Second
Life, because that'll really bummed me out.
I don't do. Anyway, the point is, is that you could create a
vote, but the way to do is you create a fake, and then you and
you create this phony affair that you're having with somebody
and then when you get busted for it, then you accuse the other
person of spying on you. So all the documentation that this was
never happened, and all they're doing is invading your privacy,
and then you sue them
and take them for all their money taken for
everything. That's gonna happen.
Excellent. So you're working on a project where you have where
you or someone else you have a suit.
It's gonna take me about a year to accomplish what I'm trying to
get accomplished. And I'm gonna write it up as a story. Maybe
it's even a small book, A giblet. But giblet
very nice indeed. I'm going to show my son move by donation to
no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fun
we do have a few people to thank for show 556 And in the case of
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worked for the CIA was threatening to break into the
NSA s files to expose them. Yet the new New York Times will not
go out on a limb and say, Hey, maybe there's a war going on
between these two factions. Is that a crazy step to make? No,
they can't do that. They can't. Why can't they do that? John?
Why can't they? Because they do that.
It's not good journalism is making suppositions. You can't
do that. Now you you'd have no proof of this unless you get
somebody quoted, find somebody at the CIA who will sit with who
say it's true. As to CIA for confirmation and see what they
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at Scott's dinner party.
When was this last night? You had mutton and meat? We had
mutton in me? Yeah, you know I find that hard to believe. Yeah,
it
was sparkling Mead and took about six weeks to make the
meat.
They made it themselves. Yeah.
And mutton. We had lamb mutton lamb shanks
guy he was I am is not mutton plow.
What is mutton then?
So older to this smells? This stinks.
Well, no, that's what we had. I'm just kidding. It stinks. Why
does? Why does mountain stink. It's just once
the fat the old sheep fat just stinks to high heaven when it's
cooked. Ah, it's disgusting. That's actually the smell and
taste of lamb that people don't like is get below that matinee
quality. And by the way I want to tell tell people out there if
you do a leg of lamb and you want to try something
interesting actually smoke it put it over a Texas style smoker
so you actually cook it it takes about two and a half three hours
to take away all the smoke the smoke from the Muskie whatever
wood you're using the same mesquite hickory probably less
hickory might have tried hickory hickory is nice. Yeah, oak would
be probably really do the trick. It will completely eliminate the
lamb that would that might be flavor lamb taste. Yeah, it
becomes very good.
Yeah, that's it. I think. I think you're right within the
skeet that's kind of the you know, there's gates
a milder wood and it's and it's easily obtainable they everybody
because you know, they burned these mesquite forest down left
and right and Mexico so they can make the place more barren. And
then they ship all the charcoal up here and then we can get real
wood charcoal, it's it works great, great flavor.
That's what we do here in Texas, by the way. It's religion.
The top the top smoking wood in Texas is either pecan or pecan
shells. But they use pecan wood and pecan shells. Interesting.
You say pecan is that of pecan? Yeah.
I say pecan. As opposed to pecan. You have any pecan? Yes,
it's right next to the vault.
Hey, you're cutting out again. What's this? This is not right.
I don't know what it is. Skype is not working today.
No, it's not. You rebooted your home machine right.
I and the router.
Oh no, no, it's not this time it's not a pack and this is this
was frustrating has nothing to do with the connection this
time. God knows.
Alright, something in between mean, yeah, but if
it gets bad, then we have to do something about it. But anyway,
let's play more clips.
Well, what you got for me began a new drug clip, Oh, nice.
They've changed it. This is Eliquis or whatever it's called.
And now, if you take this drug, you're gonna bleed to death.
I've always tried to give it my best shot. These days, I'm
living with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of
irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. At
first, I took warfarin, but kind of wondered, could I help my
game, my doctor told me about Eliquis, and three important
reasons to take Eliquis. Instead, one Eliquis was proven
to reduce the risk of stroke better than Warfarin to Eliquis
had less major bleeding. And three, unlike warfarin, there's
no routine blood testing. Don't stop taking Eliquis unless your
doctor tells you to stop and increases your risk of having a
stroke. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases, fatal
bleeding. Don't take Eliquis if you have an artificial heart
valve or abnormal bleeding, or taking Eliquis, you may bruise
more easily and it may take longer than usual for any
bleeding to stop. Seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of
bleeding, like unusual bruising. Eliquis may increase your
bleeding risk if you take certain medicines, and tell your
doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. I've got
three important reasons to up my game with Eliquis. Ask your
doctor today if Eliquis is right for
you. What kind of bleeding are they referring to
is bleed to death? The thing that got me is this whole thesis
of this commercial is up my game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was
just upping your game. You're just taking a different drug?
I've got to up my game.
Didn't you already play this up my game thing?
I'd Yeah. Some other issue is upping my game is a is a big
theme. Yeah,
no, I'm here. Well, we heard somewhere else this up my game
thing? I think so maybe someone sent me this clip. And I just
forgot to play it. Yeah, that's what happened. One of our
producers and now remember where this is coming from? Yeah, I've
heard this.
But that's on TV a lot, too. So maybe yeah. Well,
I don't know. I don't I don't I don't watch TV.
Try not to keep the troops in Afghanistan. We are. I mean,
that's the hint. This is beginning to show up as a hint.
And this little report on P and NPR. Not NPR. But news our
troops are going to stay in this little just a little subtle
thing just to bring it in. Bring it in bring Secretary
of State John Kerry made an unannounced trip to Afghanistan
today to help revive security talks he met with President
Hamid Karzai to discuss keeping some US troops in the country
beyond 2014 talks have stalled over how to preserve Afghan
sovereignty.
And there you have it.
I think I think we need to keep the poppy production out.
Probably that's why we got to keep the troops there.
The CIA is getting screwed by the NSA. They're not getting the
money they want. So thus, we put into play that okay, we're gonna
stick around Afghanistan longer so we can keep financing our
operations. Yeah. Makes nothing but sense.
I'd really love some in some some real investigation into
that. Maybe from time to time, you'll get
a whole movie on it. Nobody cares. Yeah, but
that that was a while ago. I mean, yes. What was that movie
again? It wasn't a Denzel Washington. No, no. What's his
name?
Was it was one of the it was Denzel Washington wasn't
Denzel. It was the with the Gene Hackman.
No, no, that's the other movie. Oh,
I know. It's stupid. I can't remember.
It's a true story, though.
Yeah, yeah. But you know, from time to time, you'll read, you
know, like, I think the other day I saw Oh, well, we're trying
to teach the Afghan farmers to make to grow cucumbers instead
of poppy. Because
demand
Yeah. And then it'll say, you know, well, 90% of the world's
opium 95% of the world's opium comes from Afghanistan. And and
No, no follow up. It's just like, okay, ixnay on the anche
top pay of the UK drays on military may 8 plays
so I, there's a clip here play this clip, and I have a story to
tell. This is electronic devices on a plane.
Oh god. The FAA is getting even closer to letting you fly with
your cell phone or iPad turned on. They've been investigating
this issue for a couple of weeks now. But their social committee
has officially said that Wi Fi won't cause the plane to
malfunction. Your cell phone will not bring down a 740 Seven.
Alec Baldwin can still play Words with Friends on the
tarmac. Make no mistake about the rule isn't on the books yet,
but the study means that someday it will finally be there. Okay,
John, you do know that you played this clip on Thursday.
And you went on about? Well, you went on about something rather.
But I have another story to tell. Okay. They
just want to say I went on about something or other. Thanks. iPod
memoirs, partner, banks. Remember what it was for
listening to the opinion of an actual pilot on the issue.
Thanks, buddy.
I now remember what it was. You said that they there was
actually
about it. No, it was something around there. Don't worry about
it. Because evidence I didn't have
enough to top of my head. What am I supposed to do? Just stay
silent? It was the what was that? That was my coffee cup. So
you know what it sounds like? No, it's It's the sound of Skype
going dead?
No, no, don't worry, we're here in that part two.
Anyway, it's a you talked about how it actually was a problem.
So now Southwest is instituted a new there, instead of putting
monitors in the, in the seats and like a like a Jet Blue half
and all the rest of it. Yeah. They've got a Wi Fi, you get
free Wi Fi in this in the cabin. That streams the Dish Network to
your laptop or phone. And it's actually for people who ever
tried to use it. It didn't work at all. But if you switch to if
you find Internet Explorer, it does work. I believe it to be
Silverlight and so nothing works except on Internet Explorer,
because nobody can make Silverlight work on Silverlight.
Yeah, it's totally Silverlight. Anyway, that's my story.
American Gangster. Ah 2007 American Gangster you must see
this movie. If you have not, it's a great movie. Yeah. And
this is it is the truth is a true story. And it's
the guy was still alive. And he was on a 60 minute show that
that criminal that Frank Lucas?
Was that who it was? That's what we're Denso played?
Yeah, that guy. And they were interviewed. And he was just the
coolest guy said Yeah, is going on. It was just astonishing that
this was going on. This is a true story.
It's Frank if Frank Lucas dead. I don't know
if he is or not. Let's take a look.
He was. Well, he must be blue must be very, very old. Let me
say no. Purple. Missy is this. Yeah. born September 9 1930. He
still lives at three.
Yeah, and here's his under celebrity net worth, Frank.
Frank, right now is worth 1.5 million. It's all he's got left.
Rent, it's successful drug operations in Harlem during the
60s and 70s. And on and on, and it was like Denzel Washington
played him. And it's fact the story. You watch the story. And
you know, it's still going on. It's so easy. And nowadays, when
you when you can't especially when you can't take the you
know, the all of a sudden they said you can't take pictures of
the coffins anymore. Remember that?
It's funny you say that. This actually comes in listen to
this. This is a this is what's happening almost on a daily
basis. And there's a whole backstory to this, but this is
just some of the actual reporting.
at Joint Base Pearl Harbor Hickam in Hawaii, A J pack team
returned with remains from Vietnam and World War Two. The
as of yet unknown remains received full military honors,
while veterans from different generations saluted. I think
it's so important to closure for not only the families and those
that serve themselves, to all those that are currently serving
and that have served to show that we can fulfill the
responsibility of bring the remains will now go to the joint
pow Mia accounting command central identification
laboratory there, scientists will begin finding out who these
heroes are.
Okay. So as it turns out, these so called arrival ceremonies, as
they're called, the coffins are quote unquote empty. There's no
remains in the coffins. And the planes that are there for the
for the ceremony don't even fly. They're dragged into position on
the tarmac. And what yes, and yes, this is a huge scandal.
It's, in fact, in the military, they call it the big lie. Photos
behind the scenes show the flag draped boxes had not just
arrived on the military plane, but you know, just basically
pulled out of the out of the hangar then walked around, and
the planes have been just dragged out onto the tarmac at
the Earth. arrival ceremony is what it's called, but it's not
true. So I'm thinking there's got exactly what you said there
is something up with the coffins not being shown on television
anymore now turns out that most of them are empty when it's
about Mia you know, Vietnam or or other remains that are
unidentified I think it's time for some investigative work
here.
No one's gonna do anything now I'm I'm of the opinion that the
reasons they're not letting us shoot the coffins is because
they can't coordinate
they can't carry the coffins are too heavy.
They can't call it that's possible, too. They can't
coordinate the dead soldiers with the coffins, the numbers,
and they're actually the numbers and they may actually have more
coffins coming in because of the heroin. Wow, they may have more
heroin being exported to support the operation than the dead
dead. I think I think you do not have dead guys. We
need this is what you're so right, John, we all we need is
for someone to just count. If we could just get someone to count
because you know, and by the way, another six young men and I
think maybe four men and two women died in Afghanistan, that
you didn't hear about on the news, but why would you know,
and you're not going to see it on the news. There will be no
flag draped coffins, but there should be six coming back.
Right. And they'll probably be in. Huh? Build to the rim. Now
this is just this is that people everyone who listens to this
show should watch that movie. American Gangster. Yeah. And
it's, you know, and Lucas is still out there roaming around.
He's he's out of jail, I think, isn't he?
Yeah, he's out of jail doing documentaries, saying yeah,
really? It's a good time. It was those were the days.
He's 83 You see the
same thing with you. You'll see the movie Cocaine Cowboys about
South Florida banks. But the banking all these guys are out
of jail except the ones that got killed. Were really bad guys.
And they're all talking and telling the great stories all
those were the days we were living it up. World class
champagne, you know the whole thing. It's hilarious kind of an
insult.
So in the shownotes though, you can find a statement from the
Department of Defense they will no longer be calling it a rival
ceremonies now that they've been busted on it. Yeah,
I didn't know this story. Yeah. Now what is scared is a terrible
scam.
It's it's it's an insult. It's already an insult that the the
media won't cover this, by request, I might add. So that's
already an insult, but then you know, to have phone it up. It's
lame. So I have a long thing that we can either do or not do.
I'm gonna keep putting it on here until we do it. It's about
vapes, about what vapes, vapes vapes, what are vapes,
by the way, I'm putting in the Red Book, my prediction about
you, and vapes, am I a vape? No, you're not a vape. Vape is
something you do. What's a vape? It's the vaporizers, those
little smokeless cigarettes, that electronic cigarettes.
They're called vapes.
Oh, vapes, the ones that have that are being outlawed in, in
the UK.
Right, you start playing this and we'll go through this whole
thing because I think you'll be amused because essentially what
they've done in the Bay Area is and because there's shops that
are opening up everywhere, is they made a vape for of
cigarette smokers and a vape for marijuana smokers. And they're
trying to tell people how bad it is, but the whole special that's
been pieced together is actually a promotion. It's a smoke more
tobacco product. And this is going to be a huge boon to the
tobacco market. It's very, very slight, a whole new generation
of smokers we're talking about E cigarettes if you don't know
what they are, your teenager might the number of high school
aged kids who have admitted to trying e cigarettes doubled last
year to almost 2 million NBC bears.
Stephanie Chang joins us now. And Stephanie This is actually
called vaping. Now that's right.
Vaping as in vaporizing,
by the way I've never heard of this term. Never. And I'm a weed
guy. I've never heard anyone call it vaping.
So it's called I questioned around here, JC nosey. No. Okay,
all right. I can see no.
I quit a couple of years ago. So that's maybe I'm out of it. I'm
not Mac Caroni
burning nicotine and marijuana and inhaling the vapors instead
of smoke. But like other tech gadgets, these devices have
gotten smaller and more advanced, allowing some kids to
smoke literally right in front of their parents. Lighting up to
point out there's less of a burn if feels less dirty, no actual
lighter required. It doesn't smell e cigarettes also known as
vaporizers, or vapes have a battery powered heating element
that warms the liquid, turning it into vapor. You can choose
nicotine levels or how much marijuana you want to put in.
These are hand built. Generally Frank did love He loves vaping
so much, he opened up his own shop other vape scene is growing
every day in the Bay Area, only vapor in downtown San Bruno is
the latest in the Bay Area to sell the vapes. He says this is
the secret to helping smokers kick the habit. If you're buying
vegetation, or you're building up tar in your lungs,
if you're vaporizing liquid, you're not they're not gonna
just stop the report for a second on that
as much as you want because it's hilarious.
So you remember when we were in Michigan I quit smoking a year
and what three months ago? Yeah, August of last year.
So we have done very well by the way and I celebrate your Thank
you. Thank you. I congratulate you for your honesty what is
their turn we've been trying to use thank you for your courage,
your courage, thank you for your courage for stopping us.
And, and it's gotten to the point where we don't even think
about it anymore. It's gonna mean that and that's and this is
only in the last couple months. We like it because in the past
year so once I'll be like over the hump. Yeah, we're way over
the hump. And now we're like, Oh, my God, that stinks. And
it's unbelievable. But we're not we're not and we're not Nazis. I
hate people. That's
a plus.
I'm not a Nazi.
Oh, you smell that stinks. Yeah.
However, we you'll remember that we tried stopping before when we
were still in Los Angeles. And we had the e cigarette things in
LA, as you know, to help us quit smoking. Let me tell you what
the result is. You're smoking and you're doing the e
cigarette. It does not help you at all. It's is that is
absolutely bull crap. You're still stuck.
Yeah, it's like the people use the patch and then smokes now.
None of that works. And none of that works. It's just not it's
not how you quit smoking. It the nicotine is it's the that's the
addictive property and you're still getting it and you're
sticking something in your face. You know, so it that is a lie.
It just it will not help you quit smoking. If anything, it
helps you into the real deal
or even vape meets where people get together to compare and talk
about their vaporizers. I've seen the growth of the
popularity of it within the last year. Candice Garcia who works
with troubled teens and young adults in Santa Clara County
says there are so many colors to choose from now. Girls are
turning vapes into accessories because if you're pulling out
lipstick, you know, like you want to look like you match. So
with this electronical cigarette or pressurizing pen, if it's a
hot pink and you have hot pink purse, it looks cool. So I've
seen a lot can use it anywhere. And for therapists Phil
Boissier. Therein lies the problem. He says kids aren't
getting hooked.
A kid could just have it right here and just slip it out of
their jacket, do this and be done. You know, think about it
like this.
You're never gonna see it. They could do it in class in front of
a teacher. They do do it in classrooms and have a teacher he
says teens have even confessed to playing a sort of game. We
even were
using them on the airplane. And we and we were told not to, by
the way, when we were doing that, or like you lighten up an
e cigarette on the F i bought assholes we were not I think
about it. It's totally sterile. It's I know it's talking about
the addiction man. That's what it does using
vaporizers for both nicotine and marijuana in the same room as
their parents. So mom and dad catching on. The technology
continues to advance
it's made a cigarette look like an iPod. It's made it sexy
again, we all are a little bit addicted to our technology.
Wherever you are, I pull out of our plot our smartphone, there's
a little release of dopamine. When people use drugs and
alcohol, there's a large release of dopamine and you've got a
double whammy and oh man, I just had a great idea for a product
John for the for the quantified self furs. So we have an E a
vapor, an e cigarette, a vape and it can it through Bluetooth
or maybe when I bought the iPhone not NFC so Bluetooth,
it's talking to an app. And then when you when you take a hit it
registers your dopamine level.
Odd. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually something that someone would
make.
Yeah. And make mine You can tweet it. You can tweet
like Foursquare.
Yeah, I just took it. I just vaped I just vaped and I'll give
your location your heart rate. Because you got it. You combine
it with your Fitbit. And it'll be Yeah, so we can do like I
just vaped my heart. My heart rate went up 13% Yay. With your
location at the library This is a this is a this I'm telling you
money making product right there hops
luring in first time smokers. A recent CDC study found about
160,000 middle to high school students who reported using
vaporizers had never smoked actual cigarettes. San Francisco
General Hospital Dr. Neal Benowitz says the impact goes
beyond individuals. e6 could make smoking much more popular.
People don't see
as many people smoking anymore. All of a sudden everyone's
carrying e cigarettes. So smoking behavior becomes
normalized
Dr. Bennewitz, who's also a nicotine expert with UCSF Center
for Tobacco Control, Research and Education says the newest
devices are far less toxic compared to the first e cigs
that came out 10 years ago.
Most likely e cigarette users are right that e cigarette use
if they stopped smoking would be much less harmful.
Still, he warns a lack of regulation has left many
questions hanging in the air. Some of
the cartridges are really big and contain a lot of nicotine
and so he and
I've seen some of these things at at Halcyon here on Saturdays
which is the thing we all hang out and have coffee and stuff
after the market just seems like it's like the guys carrying a
bomb. Like a huge Have you seen these? Are you even here John?
Are you just Hello? Hello I lost John keys vaped himself off of
Skype. Welcome back.
So the big is a bong would have big lantern battery in it. I
mean, that was
huge, like a huge glass thing and then he inhales and there's
all the smoke that's turning inside, you know the least like
there's like a multiple vapor, not smoke. Yeah, vapor. Yes, but
it's like a multiple chamber deal. It's pretty, it's pretty
wild. Let's listen to the rest of this theory. If
someone were suicidal, or if a child got ahold of them, they
could get a potentially lethal dose of nicotine
for delivery. The last eight months of vaping is all the
proof he needs. I've lost that smoker's cough, I feel more
clear. Now the vapes or E cigarettes have not only gotten
smaller but cheaper, you can actually pick one up that could
last for a couple years for as little as 20 to 30 bucks now and
legally, you can actually smoke these anywhere, including at
work and in restaurants. Now there was a Senate bill in
California designed to ban e cigarettes, the same places
traditional cigarettes are outlawed, and to regulate the
advertising of them but that has been put on hold.
Yeah, I think what's going on here I think you're spot on
John. This is just a promotion to move people off of tobacco
that's all going to third rats are going to Africa. You know,
we'll get all those people hooked on that. Here's the EU
doing something very similar. And of course when you know, we
know that you can't get 10 packs of smokes anymore. You can get
this big warning labels but you know they're working on this on
this e cig thing.
Now what is the best way to stop young people starting to smoke?
Well, the European Parliament will vote on a wide ranging
package of new rules today, and that tried to make the habit a
little less attractive. The proposal includes a ban on
menthol cigarettes along with other flavored tobacco packs of
10. Cigarettes would be taken off the shelves, slim cigarettes
would also be forbidden. They tend to be bought apparently by
women and health warnings could cover as much as three quarters
of a cigarette packet. But one of those controversial proposals
is to restrict access to E cigarettes. A yes which was see
them reclassified as medicines. Manufacturers would then need to
get their products licensed by drug agencies which could be
both costly and time consuming.
Yeah, Money money money
it's a bonanza tell me it's gonna be great. Yeah, well, I
think there's something to our app there with the with the
Bluetooth. I'm liking this app. Yeah. But it has to it has to
interact with the Fitbit and what else is there what other
crazy crapper to the people where to track stuff?
I think that's the least of our problems. I think the main thing
is you've got to get the e cigarette Bluetooth enabled or
Wi Fi enabled. Yeah, in such a way that it's not clumsy.
Yeah, but I don't think that's a problem. It's just it just you
need to I think you need to well, there's a couple things
one on the app, it'll show you the reservoir your nicotine
reservoir so you know it'll have like, like a fuel meter. So you
can see how full your your smoke is if there's no if you need
time for a new charge.
You see that on your phone? Yeah, of course. Yes. So you
pull out your phone and you have a little gauge.
Yes. And and of course the battery life, then you know, but
it'll also it'll automatically order NEW NEW NEW charges for
you. But it's kind of cool if you, if you take a hit your
heart rate goes, you know, then it'll be tweets out. You know, I
just vaped This is good. I'm telling you this. This is a good
idea.
We need some developers. We have developers. Yeah, we owe us we
got the promotion side of it covered. Yeah.
Now the current design. Now we've got that covered. We just
need to the actual app done. In get my nation East they're the
UK for the first time since World War Two, the Red Cross has
launched first aid emergency food aid for all of the UK as
people are starving there, apparently. Yeah. Austerity
measures and the economic downturn in the UK have prompted
the British brands of the Red Cross to begin formulating an
emergency food aid plan for Britain. The first time the
charity has done this in the UK since World War Two, huh? Yeah.
Oh, yeah, this is going to happen in across Europe too. By
the way, it's going to happen in Portugal. It's gonna happen in
Spain. It's gonna happen in the Netherlands. And the funny thing
is, it's all just about banks and bankers and bullcrap. And
peep and now people are actually starving.
Yeah, that's one way of getting their attention getting their
attention
or just getting rid of a money I think there's no this is calling
perhaps.
It could be it's what the Russians did as Ukrainians
isn't didn't the Russians do it to their entire Russian
population in general?
Now they had some targeted place where they could actually starve
people out the rest of the killed they didn't have any
qualms about that Stalin in that the start anybody got him down
right but you can't do that anymore. I don't think those
practices work these days but I was a little surprised by was a
little taken aback I would say that that is actually happening
because you know would when the when the when the collapse takes
place. I guess a lot of us will still just be watching reality
television like nothing's happening.
Does that what's going on now? Yeah,
but the collapse isn't completely here. No, it's just
a bunch of dry runs to test the public's how much they'll put up
with apparently put up quite a bit like the the blackout thing.
Yeah, Blackout coming near you.
Okay, what else do we have here?
I got a little thing just a little heads up on the head
scarves and Turkey. They left those back on board and the
turkeys going to be keep an eye on Turkey. It's going to all
hell's gonna break loose there. They've had a couple of dry runs
on that and the big stories yet to come with.
One day after the lifting of a nearly 90 year old ban on women
wearing the Islamic headscarf in Turkey state institutions and
the issue remains as divisive as ever. Being religious or secular
dictates the response for Turkey's Prime Minister. It's a
positive move and one of his reforms meant to improve
democracy. Yesterday was a painful band that has caused a
lot of suffering to the parents of young people is lifted, the
dark era has come to an end. The decades old ban has kept many
women from joining the public workforce. Supporters of the
scarf see the change as the restoration of freedom of
religious expression. Most your teacher says according to the
former regulation if you wore a headscarf you could receive a
warning and a reprimand within a certain period. Nothing else was
said it was done without even asking us to explain ourselves
should dissolve. But Urdu NS critics see here's Islam as
rooted AK Party is seeking to erode the secular foundations of
the Republic. Hired he was shady tailgunner who lives in Istanbul
says this is not good. I can't even imagine a civic officer
wearing a headscarf this was not the right decision to take and I
don't approve of it. The cost of Batum you're a man
isn't amazing just what what we've become in the world the
things that we're that we're arguing about? I find that quite
interesting.
Well, in this case, it's Turkey's history and with the
with his own state religion essentially is has been sketchy
at best and they're going to turn the place into another. I
mean, they the idea of Islamist democracy is, you know, it's
self Abnegation, you can't be both. You know, everything goes
by the book, Sharia law and all the rest of the free society and
that's their big they're freaked out about this possibility
because it's just one more step. Because it goes with the way it
works with this guy. Erica Khan. It goes First we're going to
free everybody so they can wear the headscarf, part one, part
two, everyone has to wear the headscarf the way these things
work.
I think we should start wearing when on the show you. Yes,
I show where I'm going with the dress that you're wearing as you
need to show.
Yeah, I'll go along with over modulation that we got. Since we
reconnected the Skype, it'll go go nicely. I think we should
quit while we're ahead.
Shame that the
I don't know what it is. We got to figure out what's going on.
But did you get an upgrade? There was an upgrade of Skype
that you got on Windows maybe,
you know, this machine is just dedicated this and it never runs
the rest of the week?
No, but it did. But you don't know if you got an upgrade or
not. Is Skype Skype now? Is the Skype included in the Windows
Update?
I don't I would hope not. It's
possible.
Now because they still ask you I did I did an update about a
month ago. And then we were screwed up by packet losses. Now
we got that fixed. And I think just a bad day.
Yeah, well, it's a bad day. I think it's on my end actually. I
have a feeling that it may be the the Mac version of Skype for
some reason.
We'll use the up. It's possible.
I don't know. Yeah. Well,
it seems to be in there somewhere but it's okay. I think
the show is was acceptable to the majority of no agenda
listeners.
Certainly the people who were listening to this on the podcast
version where we have because we cut out all the all the hours of
crap
rousing about this. It's terrible. Yeah.
Anyway, as an end of show, little ditty here. Producer Jim
savage. Created a little a little montage he's done this
before. This is the shut you down montage which I think we
should probably play which would be fun just to wind things up.
Sounds good. Yeah, you know, he just he just grabbed some
douchebags and mix it in with some music and it's always fun
to listen to that. We will be back on your back channel on
Thursday, and of course it will be even closer to the Bogota of
showdown. So we'll see who gives him first it'd be fun to watch
it let's say to that is that this was Arthur I think that'll
be Friday's maybe the date and we have Thursday we have the
show. I think
it'd probably be resolved probably just before the show
because they really can't do it at the very buddy did.
They always do it right after we're done with the show that's
it's timed.
They always do stuff like that. No agenda producer update coming
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