1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,310 Put in a firewall says you're 2 00:00:03,389 --> 00:00:05,609 Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:06,210 --> 00:00:10,020 October 24 2013 Time for your Gitmo nation media assassination 4 00:00:10,020 --> 00:00:11,760 episode 559. 5 00:00:12,089 --> 00:00:15,749 This is no agenda, reviewing 6 00:00:15,810 --> 00:00:19,560 over 5 million lines of code here at the Travis high tide out 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,080 in the capital of the drone Star State Austin chaos in the 8 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,000 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:24,209 --> 00:00:27,269 and from Northern Silicon Valley where I review no code. I'm John 10 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:30,239 C. Dvorak was killed. 11 00:00:33,090 --> 00:00:35,010 That's fine. It was like all of a sudden you went like 1000 12 00:00:35,010 --> 00:00:39,150 miles an hour? Yeah, I did. I'm not used to that from you. What? 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Maybe decaf next time for John. 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,170 I drink tea. 15 00:00:43,470 --> 00:00:45,210 So there's gonna be caffeine and tea 16 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:48,900 is like caffeine and tea but it also has relaxed it's it's more 17 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:51,090 balanced. It's a balanced drink. It's healthy. 18 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:53,700 Oh, and is this the PG used to drink tea? 19 00:00:53,730 --> 00:00:56,280 I used to drink it all the time ran off with that Dutch woman. 20 00:00:57,150 --> 00:01:00,510 By Hey, come on Dutch people drink more tea than you then you 21 00:01:00,510 --> 00:01:01,980 think they drink? I? 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,290 My impression is they just drink coffee? 23 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:07,770 No, no, no, no, they the Dutch coffee shops all 24 00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:12,450 over Amsterdam. Yes, the city tea shops. When in fact what 25 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:15,570 serves served in the coffee shops is more rightly known, at 26 00:01:15,570 --> 00:01:18,480 least in general parlance as tea. 27 00:01:19,770 --> 00:01:24,360 So typically the Dutch morning consists of breakfast with tea 28 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:29,280 and coffee is not until coffee time which is I think anywhere 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,600 between 10 and 11 is officially coffee time. And that is when 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,200 the Dutch drink a cup of coffee but the morning isn't is rarely 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,860 spent breakfast is I would say traditionally in general in the 32 00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:42,030 Netherlands tea. 33 00:01:42,449 --> 00:01:44,579 What consists what is the breakfast consists of 34 00:01:44,820 --> 00:01:51,450 it consists of typically bread with butter and some cheese. 35 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:59,520 They could be Bread with Nutella. Or bread with the house 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,980 lock which is the which is like sprinkles. There's that? I don't 37 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:08,610 know what that is sprinkles. You do? You know Jimmy's? I guess 38 00:02:08,610 --> 00:02:11,280 what name Will you put them on? These? You've never heard of 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:17,580 Jimmy's? A Jimmy Can you sprinkle on this for me? Hey, 40 00:02:17,580 --> 00:02:18,630 hey, you started. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,610 Large sprinkles. I have not I've just explained. 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,060 Have you ever been in Baskin Robbins and you get your ice 43 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:27,510 cream? 44 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:29,850 And then while you're talking about that garbage they put on 45 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:34,230 the ice cream. Yeah. Breakfast piece of bread 46 00:02:34,769 --> 00:02:41,219 with butter. Or or tuna rusk is the Rusk? You know what? A 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,880 resin rush just like bread crumbs? No. 48 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:52,110 Rust is beside. You know, it was how it is? Oh, yeah, sure. Ross, 49 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:56,220 I think looking at the book of knowledge. It's a round. Yeah. 50 00:02:56,220 --> 00:03:01,230 Like, like, let me see. If there's a different word for it. 51 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:06,150 Rusk. You're dry. It's a dry biscuit twice baked bread. 52 00:03:06,810 --> 00:03:10,530 Okay, yeah. But let's put in the rusk is what's used in the 53 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,910 British banger? 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,050 Yeah, but this is so this is like, imagine a hockey puck. Not 55 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:23,490 kidding. It's Rusk. Put butter on top of that. And you can 56 00:03:23,490 --> 00:03:27,150 either have your cheese or your Nutella or your Jimmy's. 57 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:33,000 On top of on top of on top of a hockey puck. Yes, I kid you not. 58 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:35,640 This isn't very exciting. 59 00:03:36,870 --> 00:03:40,110 I imagine when I first moved there when I was seven and I saw 60 00:03:40,110 --> 00:03:42,450 this crap for breakfast and then they were eating french fries 61 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:44,910 with mayonnaise. I'm like, Are you? Are you insane? I want to 62 00:03:44,910 --> 00:03:49,860 go home. And then I actually got got used to it. I now I can 63 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,160 barely imagine french fries without mayonnaise. How weird is 64 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:53,550 that? 65 00:03:55,620 --> 00:04:00,720 Was at a restaurant yesterday. And they had French fries with a 66 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,490 lowly little French place. Yeah. And you know, it's like I can 67 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,560 live with the French. The French fries with the mayonnaise 68 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,760 doesn't bother me. I mean, I've had it. I still prefer ketchup. 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,570 But you promise today's ketchup as junk. So I just I don't eat 70 00:04:15,570 --> 00:04:19,320 french fries. But with the aoli, which is a mayonnaise with 71 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,820 garlic and it's just way over the top as much as I haven't. 72 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:30,120 In fact, I can smell you from here before show day. And this 73 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,690 is one of those days where you know, before the show start of 74 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:35,790 course we all do the pre stream for those of you who like to 75 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:41,130 listen live. We start around 30 minutes before showtime and I'm 76 00:04:41,130 --> 00:04:44,640 just playing songs but I really honestly deep down. I really 77 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,930 just wanted to listen to C span. Because it's the funniest thing 78 00:04:48,930 --> 00:04:52,350 you've ever seen. And you could not write this if we sat down 79 00:04:52,350 --> 00:04:55,530 and said let's write something really funny that the technology 80 00:04:55,530 --> 00:04:58,620 community would understand and would laugh their ass off about 81 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,520 you could not write this As the as there's a congressional 82 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,450 hearing with the, I think it's three or four of the 50 83 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:10,620 consultants who created the healthcare.gov website, 84 00:05:10,620 --> 00:05:13,200 that's gotta be great. When you get these, 85 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,950 I guess it says congressmen or senators who are doing this now 86 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:20,610 I gotta check I'm not sure when you get them asking questions 87 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:25,290 about testing and beta testing and end to end processes and 88 00:05:25,290 --> 00:05:27,750 batch batch processing and 89 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,010 probably have a bunch of people that don't know anything asking 90 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:32,790 questions 91 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:37,050 incorrect. And we're always laughing about this because you 92 00:05:37,050 --> 00:05:40,110 know, this is like the news in general. This is the House 93 00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:43,650 Energy and Commerce Committee is what it is. In general, whenever 94 00:05:43,650 --> 00:05:46,740 you read something or hear something or see something in 95 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:49,500 the news, which is about a topic that you really know something 96 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:52,590 about, you'll be sitting there going like this is bullcrap. 97 00:05:52,890 --> 00:05:54,480 They got none of that right. 98 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:58,620 It's Congress. But but that's 99 00:05:58,950 --> 00:06:01,980 that's the news. And the news has done absolutely nothing 100 00:06:01,980 --> 00:06:05,220 about this this healthcare debacle except they can't deal 101 00:06:05,220 --> 00:06:08,610 with regurgitate words like oh glitch. 102 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:13,560 They can't detect people are all out of the audit of the industry 103 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,350 and the news industry the only people that have left been left 104 00:06:16,350 --> 00:06:20,850 over. And if you read any that publications, you can tell this 105 00:06:20,850 --> 00:06:22,800 it's just people interested in iPhones. 106 00:06:23,190 --> 00:06:25,260 Now that's that's the that's all that it is. Yeah, absolutely. 107 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:28,140 Right. Who gives a crap about anything else? Why bother? 108 00:06:28,530 --> 00:06:31,920 Yeah, it's just iPhones, iPhone. new iPhones coming out. Oh, a 109 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,240 new iPhone with debts. Gold is coming out. What do you think? I 110 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,850 think it's great. I'm gonna buy a gold one. 111 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Here's a fine example of CNN. I think this is the Jake Tapper. 112 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,450 You know, the guy who got fired from ABC for good, whatever he 113 00:06:45,450 --> 00:06:49,860 did wrong, and got sent down to the farm team. They're at CNN, 114 00:06:50,490 --> 00:06:53,280 who by the way now in the morning, have 37,000 viewers in 115 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,160 the demo. Congratulations, MCI, Lee. What's your name? Our 116 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,820 friend their makayley mckaela mckaela mckaela. Isn't didn't 117 00:07:02,820 --> 00:07:07,380 she the one from from talking about what the morning host on 118 00:07:07,380 --> 00:07:11,820 CNN? Isn't it Mikayla from what she did the morning show 119 00:07:12,210 --> 00:07:15,720 is Makayla. She's out of LSU came out at well, she came out 120 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,580 of tech TV then she met Elena. She's there. 121 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:20,490 And now she has 37,000 viewers in the demo in the morning. Hey, 122 00:07:20,490 --> 00:07:24,060 everybody. Good morning. That's not terrible. That's almost 123 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:24,930 immeasurable. 124 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:28,080 That's what you call it. You know, they when they do the the 125 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:30,900 by the way, I'm going to stop you right now. You know, you're 126 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:37,410 coming in and out about at a 10 DB fluctuation and I'm worried 127 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:42,510 that the recording is not consistent. Really. You're like 128 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:47,370 low and then you're loud. And you're 15 Sorry. 129 00:07:47,820 --> 00:07:50,790 15 dog? Biscuits. I'm sure that has something to do with Skype. 130 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:54,480 Let me see if Oh, yeah, no, of course. I see what happened. I'm 131 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,380 sorry. Okay. 12121212 How's that sound? Check. 1212 That should 132 00:07:58,380 --> 00:08:00,540 be better. Yeah. Yeah, you're fine. Yeah. You know what it 133 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:04,260 was? I started up Skype and recheck the automatic adjust 134 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:08,400 microphone settings. Yeah, so then, so when I'm powering in, 135 00:08:09,090 --> 00:08:13,230 it's trying to compensate for my huge booming voice. Okay. But 136 00:08:13,469 --> 00:08:16,619 anyway, yeah. 37,000 you when they do the arbitrage, or 137 00:08:16,619 --> 00:08:17,309 whatever they do. 138 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,060 Nielsen Nielsen. Actually, that's so low, it's time for 139 00:08:21,060 --> 00:08:23,580 arbitrage. They should be in radio. Let's just turn off the 140 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:25,650 cameras. Do radio 141 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,730 asterisk. 142 00:08:29,310 --> 00:08:34,260 PBX, people just don't just deliver VHS tapes. It would be 143 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:34,740 cheaper. 144 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,970 It would be cheaper. They give you if you're under some 145 00:08:38,970 --> 00:08:41,700 percent, like under one or something they get they just put 146 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:45,660 an asterisk and correct asterisk. I think it's like the 147 00:08:45,660 --> 00:08:46,050 low I 148 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,040 think it's if it's under 0.1. I think that's when you get the 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,180 asterisk on the on the ratings anyway, unfortunately for her, 150 00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:59,640 that's a total lie. But here is on CNN, another epic fail just 151 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,570 to give you an idea of the level of understanding of technology. 152 00:09:04,020 --> 00:09:08,910 And what is I guess what happened here is the one lady 153 00:09:08,910 --> 00:09:13,380 who got through on and was able to register and I don't even 154 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:13,950 know she actually, 155 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,430 I think that the one lady that was one in Ohio, Ohio. The one 156 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:18,720 got through the other day, the one 157 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,300 with Obama, the one who was in the Rose Garden, and she was the 158 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:24,990 one. So the way she got through apparently it took her like four 159 00:09:24,990 --> 00:09:29,010 hours and she had to clean her cache and her cookies in order 160 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,880 to create and they did that. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, so but 161 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,790 here's how it comes across on CNN. It took her seven hours 162 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:38,520 on the phone and online. Eventually she had to go through 163 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,850 and clean out all the cookies from her cache. She was able to 164 00:09:41,850 --> 00:09:42,240 sign up 165 00:09:44,370 --> 00:09:46,320 her cache clip for 166 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,250 the day already. 167 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:51,360 Really? I get it now. Oh my god. I wasn't prepared for that. 168 00:09:56,670 --> 00:10:03,030 Clip. I mean, seriously, this is what It passes for news just had 169 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:05,730 to clean out or a cache. You know, maybe she did have to 170 00:10:05,730 --> 00:10:06,780 clean out her cache, 171 00:10:06,810 --> 00:10:09,180 maybe her cache was the problem to start with, you know, Hey, 172 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:11,760 lady, you know, your attitude is not right. Let's work on that 173 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,480 cache. 174 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:18,750 Cache. Wow. Do these people in themselves even use computers? 175 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,380 No, 176 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:25,860 no, no, no. And then. So here, here is here is Sanjay Gupta. 177 00:10:25,890 --> 00:10:27,900 Because again, you know, if you have a technology issue in 178 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,470 government, the person you want to send is the medical guy. 179 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:35,610 Yeah, he knows he'll know. And we like him much more Sanjay. 180 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Because you know, now he's on the weed on the weed waggon. 181 00:10:38,460 --> 00:10:41,970 He's all for it now for whatever. Finally toked up, 182 00:10:42,030 --> 00:10:47,970 yeah, this guy will do anything. But he sat down with the with 183 00:10:48,210 --> 00:10:52,410 the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Kathleen 184 00:10:52,410 --> 00:10:55,470 Sebelius and asked her a few pointed questions not been 185 00:10:55,470 --> 00:11:00,180 fired. Well, there's there's talk now about the CI should 186 00:11:00,180 --> 00:11:03,060 resign. I think he may even in this clip, even address that. 187 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:06,900 But what's funny is, she's saying all the wrong things. And 188 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:12,000 I've been my first company I took public, there was no it was 189 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,580 like 700 people huge integration, we are integrating 190 00:11:14,580 --> 00:11:17,190 with back end systems. We had talked about it before the unit 191 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:19,440 went through this long. I don't I don't want to go through the 192 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,470 whole story. But I do want to say I've been in this situation, 193 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:29,310 where, you know, my contact at a company where we screwed 194 00:11:29,310 --> 00:11:31,410 something up, because you know, whether it was on their site or 195 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:34,590 our site, these are hard projects. Then you hear them 196 00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:36,870 talking to the boss. In this case, the American public is the 197 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:39,750 boss and it sounds kind of like this. He said to you about this. 198 00:11:40,229 --> 00:11:43,469 Let's get it done. I heard him yesterday in the Rose Garden. 199 00:11:43,469 --> 00:11:47,159 And, you know, he is the first to admit that the website 200 00:11:47,159 --> 00:11:49,499 doesn't work the way we need it to work. So that's one of the 201 00:11:49,499 --> 00:11:54,809 reasons Sanjay we have announced this tech surge and bringing in 202 00:11:54,809 --> 00:11:55,469 a tech 203 00:11:55,470 --> 00:11:56,670 surge John. 204 00:11:57,390 --> 00:12:03,750 Wow, that would be clipped with a day or two this thing and this 205 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:07,830 is the Iraq War. Yes, that's exactly where we're at. So we're 206 00:12:07,830 --> 00:12:10,950 gonna use the word surge anytime we want to put a little extra 207 00:12:10,950 --> 00:12:13,770 effort in That's right. Yeah, that's right. Wow. It's 208 00:12:13,770 --> 00:12:14,520 the surge 209 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:16,800 of new eyes in the ears. Jeff science 210 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,650 who's new eyes and ears. Jeff zines 211 00:12:20,250 --> 00:12:24,690 colleague and friend of mine. ministration is coming in as a 212 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:28,800 management consultant to the administrator of CMS to make 213 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,140 sure we look at the whole management system. We want to 214 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:34,200 make sure that we have the best and the brightest in terms of 215 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,490 tech folks, we tech folks have gathered them together and asked 216 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:41,310 the contractors to bring their A team to the table 217 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:44,730 now Gupta is actually good with 80 218 00:12:44,819 --> 00:12:46,919 Presidential Innovation Fellows to 219 00:12:46,950 --> 00:12:50,940 Presidential Innovation Fellows How come I'm not do I need to be 220 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:51,690 on that list, 221 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,450 add some strength because we just want to make sure we get 222 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,500 all the right answers and do what is needed listened to as 223 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,590 good as possible to open up the doors of this marketplace. 224 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:06,360 Jeff science that brings a CEO background with them about tech 225 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,180 people we hear the the best and the brightest. Are there people 226 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,970 or companies that we're going to recognise? Can you give us some 227 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:12,540 names? 228 00:13:13,079 --> 00:13:18,299 Yeah, because we'd recognise all these big names. I guess what is 229 00:13:18,299 --> 00:13:21,059 it? What do you want to hear Apple, Google, Twitter, 230 00:13:21,059 --> 00:13:22,889 Facebook? What does he want to hear? 231 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,130 Well, right now we've asked all of our contractors to look at 232 00:13:26,130 --> 00:13:28,770 their teams on the ground and bring in teams on 233 00:13:28,770 --> 00:13:32,520 the ground. We've got we've gone from boots on the ground, the 234 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,310 teams on the ground to tech surge. 235 00:13:35,610 --> 00:13:39,030 They're absolutely a team a team. I am confident that that 236 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:42,090 is happening every day. Meanwhile, we also the 237 00:13:42,090 --> 00:13:42,660 Presidential 238 00:13:42,990 --> 00:13:46,950 directors didn't didn't do such a great job so far. I didn't why 239 00:13:46,950 --> 00:13:49,110 didn't they bring the right team in in the first place? You go? 240 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:52,740 There you go. Sanjay, good question. You. 241 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,340 Why are we saying three weeks now bring your A team into this 242 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:56,940 whole equation. 243 00:13:56,970 --> 00:14:00,390 We have the hope that they had their a team on the table but I 244 00:14:00,390 --> 00:14:00,660 am 245 00:14:00,660 --> 00:14:03,390 talking to eight teams under the table apparently 246 00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:08,070 urging them to make sure that we have the talent that they have 247 00:14:08,070 --> 00:14:12,600 available. I think all of them have folks who are assigned to a 248 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,420 project blue one new eyes and ears we want to make sure that 249 00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:19,170 we get all the questions to start over. New. Well, they're 250 00:14:19,170 --> 00:14:20,400 gonna have to is 251 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:24,990 horrible. Now let me ask you this. Where is our CTO and all 252 00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:27,900 of this isn't? Isn't this what a chief technology officer is 253 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:30,390 supposed to bring to the table? Isn't this what parks in that 254 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:31,620 Don parks and that isn't a? 255 00:14:31,950 --> 00:14:34,560 Yeah, well, at least the two Indian guys bailed out. They got 256 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,880 out. I think they knew it. 257 00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:38,400 I think they saw this, this train wreck come in, and they're 258 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,370 like, well, let's go sell into it. But let's not be on the 259 00:14:41,370 --> 00:14:46,290 wrong side. Where was this? Don Park? Todd Park? That's what 260 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:47,250 Todd dump 261 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:51,210 before you go into that? Well, I have one more. No, no, don't you 262 00:14:51,210 --> 00:14:55,200 guys. This is referring to what you just did. I've got a list in 263 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,850 front of me of the Presidential Innovation Fellows who there 264 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,360 bring into the table according to Sebelius. That's the list of 265 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,170 the new ones. All right. All right. So God Whoo. He's from 266 00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:12,270 Innovation Ventures at US AI D. O. He's a State Department for 267 00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:14,880 the past two decades. So innovation we're working with 268 00:15:14,910 --> 00:15:17,730 launching and investing in light young companies and 269 00:15:17,730 --> 00:15:21,600 organisations to disrupt their respective sectors. Oh, he's 270 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,600 disruptive. I don't think we need that right now. Not okay. 271 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,670 Well then let's get rid of him. Let's get this guy Scott 272 00:15:26,670 --> 00:15:30,180 Hartley. He's a Presidential Innovation Fellow working on 273 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:33,240 Development Innovation at US AI D. O. He's 274 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,090 another State Department shill. Okay, so previously 275 00:15:36,090 --> 00:15:41,130 worked as a partner at more Davidoff Sand Hill Road company. 276 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,610 And prior than that, he worked at Google, Facebook and Harvard 277 00:15:44,970 --> 00:15:48,060 and Beckman centre for the Internet Society. He's the 278 00:15:48,060 --> 00:15:50,520 academic IP. Okay, 279 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:53,100 Presidential Innovation, what does it call fellow 280 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,660 fellows? And then we have Jacqueline bazille, who is a 281 00:15:57,660 --> 00:16:01,050 Presidential Fellow on disaster response and recovery. And this 282 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:04,440 is a disaster so that she'd be good to have in there. Yeah, 283 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,720 she'll be in there saying, hey, look, this is a disaster. 284 00:16:07,770 --> 00:16:10,740 We need a tech surge to cover up the disaster. 285 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,060 Video. Yes. But Donna is in the Open Data Initiative. She could 286 00:16:15,060 --> 00:16:19,500 be useful. She is working on the Open Data Initiative at the 287 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:22,920 Millennium Challenge Corporation. Is that a challenge 288 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,030 coin is a Challenge Corporation Oh, Gemini corporate secrets and 289 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:31,710 a coin somewhat as a college undergrad. girl she just 290 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:35,550 graduated. She co founded a gov tech startup. 291 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:39,420 Gov he Hagie. Org. What is it called? 292 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,460 dmv.org. 293 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:45,300 That's, wait a minute. That's a tech startup. 294 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:48,780 It's a gov tech startup this get these terms right till it says 295 00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:49,830 dmv.org 296 00:16:49,830 --> 00:16:53,190 is a privately owned website that is not owned or operated by 297 00:16:53,190 --> 00:16:55,410 any state government agency 298 00:16:55,650 --> 00:16:59,520 says Govtech. Now gov tech doesn't mean it's owned by the 299 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,730 government. Like technology, maybe? Well, this 300 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:06,390 is this is kind of interesting. If you look at this website, 301 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:11,430 helping you navigate the DMV since 1999. I immediately I'm 302 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:17,010 like I'm liking this, because, in fact, if you open up dmv.gov 303 00:17:17,610 --> 00:17:21,840 I presume there's a website there. Oh, no, it has to be 304 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,570 www.dmv.gov 305 00:17:24,990 --> 00:17:26,280 Nobody's that incompetent. 306 00:17:26,819 --> 00:17:30,359 There is no dmv.gov Just so you know, it does not exist. 307 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:34,470 Oh, I'm looking in there says server not found at WWE. 308 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:38,760 There's no There's no dmv.gov You have to go to subdomains for 309 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,090 your 310 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,680 layaway. Wait, wait, wait, you won't play? Try capital D 311 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,220 capital. 312 00:17:44,910 --> 00:17:50,460 All right, fine. But I like this idea. Where what's your name 313 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:56,340 again? I can probably find it on our website here. I gotta go 314 00:17:56,340 --> 00:18:03,150 back. Some lost. Advertise with us. Company, our company. Let me 315 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:03,570 see. 316 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:13,440 I'd look at Vidya VI, d y a. Span. Danna SP. andan. A. 317 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:17,250 vigil Spandana. Let's see if she's hot. 318 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,820 She's pretty She's totally. 319 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,940 She's. I think she's very pretty actually. Okay. This is a great 320 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:27,720 idea. Because 321 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:30,150 you're not important that she's pretty. It's important that 322 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:33,270 she's competent, my friend. No, no, it's important. Less 323 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:34,680 according to the email I've been getting. 324 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:39,210 We'll get into that in a minute. But I think this is this 325 00:18:39,210 --> 00:18:43,200 actually is a fantastic idea where you take a non faith in 326 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,890 fact, dmv.gov doesn't even exist. You take a non 327 00:18:46,890 --> 00:18:49,560 functioning entity online and that's pretty much anything the 328 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,470 government does. And you create a better version of it just 329 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:54,660 tying into their hooks or whatever into into their 330 00:18:54,660 --> 00:18:58,260 systems. And then you've got to you've got a business I think, I 331 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:01,410 mean, looks like that. Looks like they're they're basing it 332 00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:02,400 on advertising, which 333 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,460 is a tonne of these fellows. There's no way they can get all 334 00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:09,150 these fellows in one room at the same time. So she's full of crap 335 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:11,430 about this. Anyway, you take it, take it, take it. 336 00:19:11,459 --> 00:19:14,729 Who else is anyone else? Who's a fellow because I feel like one 337 00:19:14,729 --> 00:19:15,119 of them there's 338 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,700 like, there's must be 50 of them on this page. And this is the 339 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:21,300 second round of fellows. And there's nobody that was here's 340 00:19:21,330 --> 00:19:26,670 cyber physical systems. Dr. Saku Ri is a Presidential Fellow in 341 00:19:26,670 --> 00:19:29,700 cyber physical systems project at the National Institute of 342 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:33,630 Standards and Technology. Sock Wu is a entrepreneur and 343 00:19:33,630 --> 00:19:36,090 executive with expertise in technical fields, including 344 00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:39,660 wireless networks. His broad experience in pioneering new 345 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:42,030 industries and promoting company growth with a focus on 346 00:19:42,030 --> 00:19:46,830 continuous in noises bullcrap. Jeff Mulligan cyber physical 347 00:19:46,830 --> 00:19:53,520 systems. My USA Hillary Hartley Oh, here we go. She's got a 348 00:19:53,550 --> 00:19:56,010 picture of you got to see the picture this woman 349 00:19:56,610 --> 00:19:58,020 now I'm not doing that anymore. 350 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:07,230 She Is I'm out. Alright, so I could go on for everyone with 351 00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:07,350 you. 352 00:20:07,379 --> 00:20:12,449 Alright, so this is known as the PIF, the pips. I see it right 353 00:20:12,449 --> 00:20:15,089 here on the whitehouse.gov pips is a pips. Yeah. The 354 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:18,929 presidential. It's Barack Obama and the Pips everybody. Yeah. 355 00:20:18,929 --> 00:20:22,949 Gladys Knight used to play with the PIs. So here's spokes whole 356 00:20:22,949 --> 00:20:27,359 Kearney, and, and of course, he's, he's being grilled and all 357 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,179 he can do is read off the paper, and it's kind of sad, but 358 00:20:30,180 --> 00:20:33,030 he has pathetic when he's has to look down and read off the 359 00:20:33,030 --> 00:20:33,720 paper. Yeah. 360 00:20:33,749 --> 00:20:39,209 And so here is his, his introduction of Jeff designs, do 361 00:20:39,209 --> 00:20:42,449 you know this guy? The Science Guy? No, I never met him. Do you 362 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:46,019 know what I mean? He's a budding CEO. He's not like, yeah, how 363 00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:46,950 do you spell his last name? 364 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:53,069 It's weird. Zed, i e. n t. S. designs. And let's see you I 365 00:20:53,099 --> 00:20:54,659 will look them up while we listen to this clip, 366 00:20:54,869 --> 00:21:00,119 launch the tech surge, oh, well underway, bringing some of the 367 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,439 most talented experts to bear on this problem. And they're 368 00:21:04,439 --> 00:21:07,289 working 24/7 24/7 369 00:21:07,290 --> 00:21:08,220 never been on 370 00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:11,549 fixing the web app. And I understand that HHS is now 371 00:21:11,549 --> 00:21:15,869 announcing some key steps, including the fact that it is 372 00:21:15,869 --> 00:21:20,309 bringing in management Expert and Former CEO, Jeff signs on 373 00:21:20,309 --> 00:21:23,879 board to work in close cooperation with the HHS team to 374 00:21:23,879 --> 00:21:27,179 provide management advice and counsel to the project as those 375 00:21:27,179 --> 00:21:28,769 of us currently. Yeah. 376 00:21:28,979 --> 00:21:31,979 He's currently the Director of the National Economic Council. 377 00:21:31,979 --> 00:21:34,319 So what is he got to do with the price of bread when it comes to 378 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:36,599 computer systems? Oh, nothing? I don't know. 379 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:39,029 They think that somehow you're going to bring in another 380 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:42,179 manager, another guy who's gonna have to get up to speed on this 381 00:21:42,239 --> 00:21:46,469 debacle, that that's going to work. This is just about the 382 00:21:46,469 --> 00:21:49,889 worst thing you can do, Jeff, he's an add to a team, and many, 383 00:21:49,889 --> 00:21:54,179 many teams who are completely demoralised. And now, you know, 384 00:21:54,179 --> 00:21:58,259 I've been here I've done this. This is exactly the wrong way to 385 00:21:58,259 --> 00:21:58,529 go. 386 00:21:58,889 --> 00:22:01,379 I don't see any by the way, I don't see any evidence that he 387 00:22:01,379 --> 00:22:02,969 knows anything about systems. I 388 00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,190 know. It's all about management. They think that it's just 389 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:07,590 management, management management. Yes. 390 00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:11,520 This is this is the idiocy of the Yeah, this is crazy. And 391 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,800 there's nobody in Congress that seems to have a clue about any 392 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,730 of this either. So well, this is this site's never gonna work. 393 00:22:18,059 --> 00:22:21,089 I don't think so either. I think it's never really gonna work 394 00:22:21,089 --> 00:22:25,169 very well. They're gonna have to really go back to it. It's not 395 00:22:25,169 --> 00:22:28,679 the site. It's all the backend stuff. That's what it is. 396 00:22:29,099 --> 00:22:33,179 Anyway, so on Sunday, on Sunday, we will have plenty of fun 397 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:36,299 clips, to listen to 398 00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:39,450 guys just a government stooge. He's not even a CEO, CEO of 399 00:22:39,450 --> 00:22:41,520 what? I can't find anything. 400 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:45,300 I see the let's see the advisory board the 401 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:49,530 management, he's like, okay, he was one of the board of 402 00:22:49,530 --> 00:22:51,930 directors of XM satellite radio. 403 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,910 He knows he was Chief Operating Officer of Advisory Board 404 00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:59,820 Company. And corporate that's 405 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:03,180 a company that does the first CTO was part of one of those 406 00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:06,630 with some Washington drinking club that was called the company 407 00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:09,690 I have no idea what it is. I read we've talked about this 408 00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:13,230 company it's not a company it's a it's just a bunch of guys who 409 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,300 formed something called a Company 410 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,940 Research Council of Washington with five employees Yeah, yeah, 411 00:23:20,970 --> 00:23:24,630 it's a think tank drinking club Yeah, my great bring them in 412 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,420 bring this guy knows nothing. 413 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,750 In fact, I on his wiki page, someone should go in on his 414 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:34,290 Wikipedia page and replace his picture with a with a target on 415 00:23:34,290 --> 00:23:34,740 his head 416 00:23:36,780 --> 00:23:38,610 might be considered a terrorist threat. 417 00:23:39,810 --> 00:23:44,040 True. Maybe you don't want to do that. Yeah, now this is this is 418 00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:48,570 what is interesting is the if you look at the the House 419 00:23:48,570 --> 00:23:53,970 hearing three women two men on the in the witness stand, and 420 00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:56,010 they say there's no women in tech. Well, they're there. 421 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:57,780 Yeah, they're there to get blamed. 422 00:23:59,070 --> 00:24:04,830 Actually, I think the woman from Ray, I don't know if she's from 423 00:24:04,830 --> 00:24:08,100 CGI or CMS, but she's actually doing pretty well. 424 00:24:08,610 --> 00:24:13,050 This guy by the way, and yet, in this day and age, I'm gonna this 425 00:24:13,050 --> 00:24:16,530 sounds a little weird, but I'm gonna say it anyway. This Jeff 426 00:24:16,530 --> 00:24:21,540 zines guy. He's not even on and he's not a high level guy. He's 427 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:26,670 not he's not Larry Ellison. No, this guy isn't even on Linked 428 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:33,630 In. Wow. I mean, every I tell you, everybody who's a CEO in 429 00:24:33,630 --> 00:24:37,170 almost every company with the exception of very few extremely 430 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:41,250 high level people, they're all on LinkedIn. This guy's not on. 431 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:45,030 So he's not even in that league where he's he's just, he's just 432 00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:47,880 a slouch. Okay, let's go from there. Sorry. 433 00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:50,730 Someone who's gonna get blamed. That's what's gonna happen. I 434 00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:56,100 even got a note and this kind of confused me from Nancy and de 435 00:24:56,100 --> 00:25:01,530 parley. You know, I'm on the on the wall. White House ready for 436 00:25:01,530 --> 00:25:05,910 Hillary? Well Nancy and depart know the note was about the 437 00:25:05,910 --> 00:25:08,700 Affordable Care Act and the Health Insurance Marketplace and 438 00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:11,970 we're the website launched as you know, hasn't gone advanced 439 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,040 as you may have heard the website launch hasn't gone as 440 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,250 smoothly as it should have. But she's not she's not there 441 00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:21,240 anymore. She left and she's in 442 00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:24,540 left Yeah, she's so they're just sending out letters with her. 443 00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:25,350 Yes, I 444 00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:29,130 think so. Because if everywhere you look, she's now at a private 445 00:25:29,130 --> 00:25:32,250 equity firm. She left and you know, so 446 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:36,930 it's just a template. I think it is John. Yes. Disgusting. 447 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,660 I got the email I'm like Nancy and apparently didn't show Yeah, 448 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,210 here it is Nancy and apparently left the Obama White House last 449 00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:47,370 January. Yes. How do you spell her name? So Nancy dash N A N N 450 00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:58,080 depart les DPARLEDAGP A R L E R, L E. And if you if you look at 451 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,050 the book of knowledge, I know it does. It says she's returned all 452 00:26:01,050 --> 00:26:04,620 of a sudden. So I think that, you know, the whole I think the 453 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:12,750 whole administration is running on one big Perl script. It's 454 00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:16,890 worse, it's probably AppleScript. Here it is the 455 00:26:16,890 --> 00:26:17,460 poorly. 456 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:23,010 Yeah, and here's Nancy and to parlay on LinkedIn. But she's 457 00:26:23,010 --> 00:26:29,400 not like she had the consonance capital company. Yeah. Yeah, 458 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,260 yeah. Well, why she's sending out this note then. 459 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,640 I don't know. That's, that's what's so weird. I'm telling 460 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:35,970 you. 461 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,120 They've got they these guys are running on fumes they are. 462 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:44,940 It's good. It's so bad right now. And please transition us 463 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:48,270 right into net sec. Wanke. Because I 464 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:51,720 think it's true as you said things are so bad right now the 465 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,640 first thing I thought of was nav sec. It's not SEC one that's 466 00:26:56,670 --> 00:27:00,270 yeah, national security walk net SEC walk and now if people 467 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:02,850 haven't heard this story, actually have a clip that kind 468 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:05,610 of outlines it. This is the very short clip I see here. So that 469 00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:06,900 the one Yeah, play it. 470 00:27:07,290 --> 00:27:10,230 And a guy who worked in the White House on national security 471 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:13,740 is looking for a new job tonight. He was fired for 472 00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:18,450 tweeting. This is one of the tweets that jofy Joseph aka net 473 00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:22,740 SEC Wanke sent like this one many tweets insulted top White 474 00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:26,400 House officials he was exposed and fired last week. 475 00:27:26,429 --> 00:27:29,339 Oh, you didn't have oh, man, you need to you need the three 476 00:27:29,339 --> 00:27:30,839 examples everyone's using? 477 00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:34,410 Well, the my there's more than a few examples that you could pick 478 00:27:34,410 --> 00:27:37,530 from if you have, I think is LinkedIn. It's in the show notes 479 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:41,550 of course, the entire history of this guy which was taken off of 480 00:27:41,550 --> 00:27:45,540 Twitter. And somebody said, You know I haven't found out why it 481 00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:47,820 was taken off. It was taken off by Twitter if he closed the 482 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:50,010 account but I think it was taken off by the company because it 483 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:52,530 doesn't say close the account. Usually it's his accounts been 484 00:27:52,530 --> 00:27:55,080 closed or private or something like that. Yeah, by something. 485 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,900 Yeah. But this one's This one says server error. 486 00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:02,490 Maybe you did you mean dmv.gov 487 00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:08,250 And so he went after everybody when one of his key targets was 488 00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:09,540 Valerie. Yes, 489 00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:10,440 yes. 490 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:15,120 I have. I have what is she even doing here? Why is she here? I 491 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,670 think she's got too much influence on the president. Who 492 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:18,990 is she anyway? 493 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:23,280 I was like hey the highest this guy taken my my stick. I'm glad 494 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,400 they closed the CAMEO. They want to seize this and I'm not even 495 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,250 on the on the inside. Here's CNN who are just appalled. appalled 496 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:35,400 that anyone would do this. This is what everyone hates about 497 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Washington. This is appalling. We can't he's me. Last 498 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,750 thing the Obama administration needs a rogue tweeter. Believe 499 00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:45,720 it or not White House National Security Official JioFi Joseph 500 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,570 fired last week because he posted hundreds of snarky tweets 501 00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:55,860 snarky critical of his bosses and government policies and 502 00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:58,680 bosses friends and officials and just about anybody because it 503 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,500 went on for years. Oh, Jim Acosta is at the White House 504 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:03,090 with the very latest on this we got the 505 00:29:03,090 --> 00:29:05,460 guy on the at the white in the White House lawn to talk about 506 00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:07,380 this. Everybody stopped the presses. 507 00:29:07,410 --> 00:29:10,230 Jim. Honestly, when I read these tweets, I thought I was reading 508 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:12,330 the tweets of a 15 year old mean girl 509 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:20,610 15 Your mean girl, Aaron. No, that's that is I think it's the 510 00:29:20,610 --> 00:29:24,360 girl the lady with the with the glasses and the short blonde 511 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,020 hair. 512 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:28,020 They are outlandish. 513 00:29:29,010 --> 00:29:31,350 It sounds like something out of that movie Mean Girls are 514 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:34,020 Heather's or, you know that sort of stereotype. 515 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,470 We watch all the time. Apparently. That's how would you 516 00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:40,560 know about it. As you watched it go behaviour 517 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,320 and honestly, sometimes Washington can behave like a 518 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,380 high school and this is an example of that. One thing we 519 00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:49,590 should point out White House officials say that JioFi Joseph, 520 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,920 the National Security Council director of Non Proliferation of 521 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:56,370 pretty interesting title their important title. He was fired 522 00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:59,820 immediately once his identity was revealed as the mystery man 523 00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:03,300 bye Hi in this Twitter handle, not SEC walk, which by the way, 524 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:06,030 if you go on Twitter isn't there anymore. And just to give you a 525 00:30:06,030 --> 00:30:10,260 sample of the mean spiritedness that was being vented on Twitter 526 00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:11,550 under this handle there, okay, 527 00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:15,060 now this is now we've transitioned into the bullying 528 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:16,920 meme. Hold on, I gotta do like, Oh, they're 529 00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:21,330 the bullying meme. He was such a bully 530 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:27,420 was one about Ambassador Samantha Power. He took a tweet 531 00:30:27,420 --> 00:30:30,450 from Samantha Power and then modified it and tweeted it out 532 00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:33,600 himself. Ambassador powers original tweet was about how she 533 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,060 was wrapping up a busy day at the United Nations General 534 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:40,260 Assembly. And talking about to President speech there. And 535 00:30:40,290 --> 00:30:44,010 natspec Walk JioFi Joseph tweeted tweets like this are why 536 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:46,890 so many soured on you. And really that's sort of scratching 537 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:49,800 by the way that was like the what? That was dumb. That was 538 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,630 just a dumb non sequitur tweet. It made no sense at all. If you 539 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:59,640 said, How come you married Cass Sunstein? What are you doing 540 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,590 with that? Douchebag that would make sense 541 00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:02,370 on the surface that 542 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,300 that tweet by the way. He did that. Yeah, he did. He had a 543 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:07,680 tweet about gas 544 00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:12,450 with gas. To the iceberg there are many other mean spirited 545 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:16,620 ones the mean spirited are Palin and Valerie Jarrett and many 546 00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:20,250 other therapists Valerie Jarrett officials in the Administration 547 00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:23,670 and outside the administration of the GOP Joseph once he was 548 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:27,930 busted, apparently released a an apology statement to Politico 549 00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:30,090 and I'll read that to you. It says it has been a privilege to 550 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:32,940 serve in this administration. I deeply regret violating the 551 00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:35,520 trust and confidence placed in me What started out as an 552 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,760 intended parody account of DC culture developed over time into 553 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,610 a series of inappropriate and mean spirited comments. I bear 554 00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:44,640 complete responsibility for this affair and I sincerely apologise 555 00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:48,540 to everyone I insulted but but actually, I mean, he says it was 556 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:52,560 a parody account of DC culture. This is what people don't like 557 00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:54,090 about DC culture. Now. 558 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:56,670 This is the best thing that I've ever seen from DC Cole, 559 00:31:56,699 --> 00:32:01,919 I agree with. You wonder why CNN has no radio is it totally 560 00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:06,389 siding with the wrong side of an argument always persistently 561 00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:09,359 siding with the wrong side of an argument. They are siding with 562 00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,249 the power. They're not siding 563 00:32:11,250 --> 00:32:13,380 with the people. And the people want them, 564 00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:16,260 frankly, that it can be sort of mean spirited and cutthroat. So 565 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:19,650 it's strange that he would apologise. He was sort of 566 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:20,880 contributing to it. 567 00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:24,180 But Tim can interrupt you for one second. 568 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:26,160 Yeah, please interrupt because you got something important to 569 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,820 say Ashley. 570 00:32:27,389 --> 00:32:29,579 While she gives you that statement? I want people to know 571 00:32:29,579 --> 00:32:33,599 exactly what he did say. I'm a fan of Obama but his continuing 572 00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:37,709 reliance and dependence upon a vacuous Cypher like Valerie 573 00:32:37,709 --> 00:32:38,159 Jarrett 574 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:45,269 vacuous? What does that mean? vacuous Cypher? But does that an 575 00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:45,989 airhead 576 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:50,670 vacuous airhead Cypher Cypher which is someone I think I meant 577 00:32:50,670 --> 00:32:53,760 to look it up together exactly right. But someone who just Yaks 578 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,260 a lot I think is a cypher 579 00:32:56,310 --> 00:33:03,000 zero. It's a zero. A vacuous Cypher an airhead zero. Yeah. 580 00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:06,210 Yeah. And turns 581 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:09,540 me that's just one, the other one you alluded to. So When will 582 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:12,180 someone do us the favour of getting rid of Sarah Palin and 583 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:15,570 the rest of her white trash family? What utter useless 584 00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:21,240 by the way. This is very interesting. The first time I 585 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,770 ever heard someone on the news, bring up that tweet, because 586 00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:29,490 most of these news organisations think that's funny. When they 587 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:31,110 say when it's about Sarah Palin see then oh, 588 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:34,410 yeah, no, it's okay. And it's funny. Yeah, that's fine. When 589 00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:37,650 it's about Sarah Palin, kinds of criticism of Sarah Palin or 590 00:33:37,650 --> 00:33:42,600 Michelle Bachman. You see, then it's Oh. It's okay. And by the 591 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,800 way, women who complained so stealthily to me, and I'm sure 592 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,300 to you as well, John Kasdan. And I got some I got some complaints 593 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:55,710 about what we said about what's your name? Ivory? What's her 594 00:33:55,710 --> 00:33:56,100 name? 595 00:33:56,790 --> 00:34:02,130 Keenan ivory. Emily, Emily Dreyfus, 596 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,460 Dreyfus. Right. Cool. Apparently, I was told in a 597 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,430 funny way. You know, she's Richard Dreyfus, his daughter. 598 00:34:08,910 --> 00:34:11,040 Oh, I pissed off the golden girl. 599 00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:14,190 I'm sorry. I didn't know that. Yeah, 600 00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,919 I was literally told hey, by the way, you know, that is Richard 601 00:34:16,949 --> 00:34:21,239 Dreyfus, his daughter, like, Oh, now I know. Everyone's 602 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:24,570 so mad. Yeah, well, celebrities anyway. 603 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,900 Yeah, exactly. i The only thing I want to say about that is 604 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,410 this. And if you didn't hear it, go listen to the last episode, 605 00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:36,660 where for the one time we don't say that we are evaluating women 606 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:39,570 the way television producers do, right? Because we usually 607 00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:40,770 usually disclaim data. 608 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,380 Usually that's a disclaimer. That's our that's our out, 609 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,480 but I will expand it for once and all in all time. If you are 610 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,190 in media, and you display yourself in media, I don't care 611 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:56,640 if it's on a poster. I don't care if it's on a podcast on 612 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,560 television, whatever it is, and and you have an opinion about 613 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,740 anything, which most people in media do. That's pretty much 614 00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:09,210 everyone's job. You are susceptible to criticism, 615 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:14,400 subject subject to criticism of your appearance. Yes. And it is 616 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,320 a part of the game. And make no mistake, it's a game. And 617 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,990 there's a big reason why we don't have video on the show. 618 00:35:22,770 --> 00:35:23,730 Right? We don't need 619 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:27,540 the aggravation of being told. I mean, I've lived my whole 620 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:32,340 professional life. I've been a dumb, dude. Dumb Blonde on 621 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:35,820 Blonde, a dumb blonde my whole life and I really have never 622 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,190 cared ever. But when you say it about a woman and you say boy, 623 00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:45,570 she's if I say a million times on this show, she's hot, amen. 624 00:35:45,570 --> 00:35:51,090 She's smokin hot. God, she's so beautiful. No complaints. Never 625 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:55,290 a complaint. When you say, oh, man, she used to be hot. Not 626 00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:59,340 anymore. Then all hell breaks loose. You are you're a sexist. 627 00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:01,170 misogynist. 628 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,490 Yeah. I said I didn't pay that much attention to it. No, I got 629 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:09,510 I got the woman. She I heard her saw her on her thing. And she's 630 00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:12,780 you know, she moaned about it. She said, We're anti science. 631 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:15,570 She, they actually were very good here. And I guess her 632 00:36:15,570 --> 00:36:18,780 brother or somebody else who came on I just blocked him. But 633 00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:25,230 they went on about oh, these two idiots are old white dudes. I 634 00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:29,940 mean, they go off. This is the kind of people who they once a 635 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:33,240 little criticism hits them. They turn into the biggest biggest 636 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:38,370 swathes worse than they just sexist. Yes. It's racist, 637 00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:42,660 racist. How? One guy says we kill ourselves, slit your 638 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:46,380 wrists. He says to us, this is like unbelievable. And I saw 639 00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:50,430 that what kind of person would say that unless there's sick, 640 00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:53,760 I draw the line. I mean, you can say anything you want. But when 641 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,730 you start calling me a Republican, that's when I get 642 00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:57,210 angry. 643 00:36:57,330 --> 00:37:01,410 Oh, yeah. That's another one and everyone's a Republican. And 644 00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:03,930 yeah, if you're if you're anything against it, I mean, if 645 00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:08,370 you're just not a checklist, liberal, progressive, you're a 646 00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:12,990 Republican. That's true. No. Most Republicans nowadays have 647 00:37:12,990 --> 00:37:15,540 bailed from the Republican Party. I'm a registered 648 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:18,660 Independent, you can check it out. Yeah. Not a Republican. 649 00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:24,420 But every single one of these women, I just pointed out to 650 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:27,420 them, I said, Can you tell me can you look me in the eye and 651 00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:32,580 tell me you've never made a joke about Donald Trump's hair? And 652 00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:35,790 they can't because they've all done it. You see, when you turn 653 00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:39,000 that around, and there's a much larger conversation that I'm 654 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,080 preparing not for today, about about the this, you know, that's 655 00:37:43,110 --> 00:37:49,740 the agenda 21 promotion of women. And I have some problems 656 00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:50,370 with this. 657 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,520 I really just Well, it's the agenda 21 is problematic. Yeah. 658 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,350 But just the way that it's being done. And, and I have some 659 00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:04,500 disagreements and it's unfortunately I'm, there's a lot 660 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:08,280 of women around me. So it seems I gotta watch my back. I have to 661 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,920 be very, very, very knife in my back. Very, very prepared before 662 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,880 I do anything on this topic. However, I'm very happy to hear 663 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:24,690 that. Def sec. Wanke or what it was it net net sync net SEC was 664 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,130 called Valerie Jarrett. A vapid, what do you call it? Thank you. 665 00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:32,190 It's vacuous Cypher. I gotta write that down. That's a good 666 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:35,640 one Cypher, I am your vacuous Cypher member of the 667 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:41,610 Presidential Innovation Fellows. vacuous Cypher? That's great. 668 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,030 Well, I read a lot of the tweets I didn't read them on, I think 669 00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:48,660 we can go over that the list that's on the which came from 670 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:53,850 scribd.com, which was the capture of the entire Twitter 671 00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:57,900 stream before it was back vacated. And I recommend people 672 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,180 actually download it and save it because I think that'll be 673 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:00,630 pulled. 674 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:05,340 It's when you go to the show notes. 559 dot na shownotes.com 675 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:06,840 That is an offline copy. 676 00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:11,430 Okay, which is better done. Of course, as we've learned over 677 00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:14,160 the years, you have to make copies of things that are online 678 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,190 that are controversial, because they get pulled, there's no use 679 00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:19,650 any excuse to pull them because nobody wants to, you know, make 680 00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:24,360 waves, right? It's got some gems in there. This guy was inside 681 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,720 and he was he was essentially a fly on the wall even though he 682 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,630 was in there. But he was acting as a fly on the wall just 683 00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:35,850 picking up just beautiful little observations. And the fact that 684 00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:39,240 CNN would go after him like this as some sort of a high school 685 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,240 mean girl was is kind of missing the point of the whole thing. We 686 00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:45,540 had a view of the inside of the White House that you would 687 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:49,170 otherwise not get and yeah, it was it was mean spirited. But it 688 00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:51,840 probably because of what you observed. You can get pretty 689 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,150 angry when you start seeing certain kinds of things 690 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:57,240 happening in front of your eyes. And if you can, if you think you 691 00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,970 can get away with an anonymous tweet, and you'll do it now the 692 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,670 The best comment I've seen on this looking at various news 693 00:40:02,670 --> 00:40:05,640 items was, was this guy, you know, the commenters at the end 694 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,150 of the item and the guy says, geez, it took two years for the 695 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:10,620 NSA to finally figure out. 696 00:40:12,059 --> 00:40:15,059 And they and the way they did it apparently, is by leaking some 697 00:40:15,059 --> 00:40:18,779 particular information to him, and then waited for it to tweet 698 00:40:18,779 --> 00:40:21,029 out. And then they said, okay, that we only gave it to you. And 699 00:40:21,179 --> 00:40:23,309 that is, of course, the way to get somebody. 700 00:40:23,459 --> 00:40:26,099 This is one of the one of the ways you if you have a 701 00:40:26,129 --> 00:40:31,379 confidential documents, that oftentimes they're coded, so 702 00:40:31,379 --> 00:40:34,889 everybody gets a slightly different version. And the if 703 00:40:34,889 --> 00:40:39,089 they get leaked, that you can see what your version is they do 704 00:40:39,089 --> 00:40:41,009 this, they used to do this. I don't think they do it so much 705 00:40:41,009 --> 00:40:45,119 anymore. But in the early days of sending out screeners, they 706 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,389 would the Hollywood would would put different kinds of codes in 707 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,360 the screener VHS tapes, you mean, 708 00:40:51,630 --> 00:40:54,840 right? If you had a VHS screen, or you would and you made a copy 709 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,180 of and gave it got into the public domain, there would be a 710 00:40:57,180 --> 00:41:01,620 code embedded in the screener that was specifically your 711 00:41:02,070 --> 00:41:05,790 yours. I think this is a part of something bigger, John, and 712 00:41:05,790 --> 00:41:10,500 that's why you're seeing this this type of attack from the 713 00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:15,120 government, media, the CNN, I mean, I'm sorry, the they're so 714 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,860 all in on this, that not with what the people want. I think 715 00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:22,590 that if you just look down the list what we've seen in this 716 00:41:22,590 --> 00:41:27,600 past besides healthcare.gov which you know, I think that's 717 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:35,190 just pure incompetence. But if you see France Oh, we spied on 718 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:40,650 70 million French and and we spied on you and the Dutch we 719 00:41:40,650 --> 00:41:45,360 tapped to 1.8 million Dutch phone numbers and oh, yeah, and 720 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,770 by the way, Lemond has this information, and then go and 721 00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:54,120 then murder her phone. Her her her cell phone, her Nokia phone, 722 00:41:54,210 --> 00:41:56,130 they found after this, by the way, 723 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,290 I can tell you that today President Obama and Chancellor 724 00:41:58,290 --> 00:42:01,500 Merkel spoke by telephone, regarding the allegations that 725 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,010 you mentioned that the US National Security Agency 726 00:42:05,010 --> 00:42:07,110 intercepted the communications with the German chancellor, and 727 00:42:07,110 --> 00:42:09,450 I can tell you that the President assured the chancellor 728 00:42:09,450 --> 00:42:12,180 that the United States is not monitoring and will not monitor 729 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:13,530 the communications of 730 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,220 is not will not he didn't never never did he say didn't. 731 00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:21,810 This is that was brought by beware local news media picked 732 00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:26,040 up on that. Oh, yeah. Well, I actually picked up on the fact 733 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,250 that he and I think there may have been some direct questions. 734 00:42:30,060 --> 00:42:30,660 Whoever 735 00:42:30,690 --> 00:42:33,030 yeah, there's a follow up Chancellor. The United States 736 00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:36,090 greatly value is reading cooperation with Germany on a 737 00:42:36,090 --> 00:42:39,180 broad range of shared security challenge air, as the President 738 00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:42,060 has said, the US is reviewing the way that we gather 739 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:45,300 intelligence to ensure that we properly balanced the security 740 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:46,380 concerns of our citizens. 741 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,230 Why it sounds so natural when you're reading J allies. 742 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:52,920 With the privacy concerns that all people share. Both leaders 743 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,370 agreed to intensify further the cooperation between our 744 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:57,030 intelligence 745 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,760 I love how we are spying on people to protect our allies, 746 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,420 not just our American citizens, but we actually claim out loud 747 00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:09,810 that we're all we're protecting you, you there, France 748 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,480 services with the goal of protecting the security of both 749 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,160 countries, and of our partners 750 00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:17,670 and partners and our partners, John our partners checking the 751 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:21,810 privacy of our citizens when you say 752 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,740 are not monitoring does that leave the door open to the 753 00:43:25,740 --> 00:43:29,460 possibility the NSA as part of a broader suite picked up some of 754 00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:31,470 our communication here is the question not quote unquote, 755 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,270 oh my god, it's a good question. 756 00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:35,580 All I can tell you is what the President told the chancellor 757 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:38,130 the United States is not monitoring and will not monitor 758 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:41,310 the communications of the chancellor. Right Thank you 759 00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:45,060 there's one guy do you know John bachelor you ever heard this 760 00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:45,420 guy? 761 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:49,740 Oh, yeah. John bachelor show yeah, radio guys. third tier 762 00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:53,160 guy. Yeah, big deep booming voice however 763 00:43:53,160 --> 00:44:00,930 I a lot of insiders that I know in the DC area, say he's usually 764 00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:04,470 spot on and really has good intel and knows what's 765 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:07,200 happening. He's a little he's a little weird, you know, bowtie 766 00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:10,500 type guy, you know, like Bill Nye the Science Guy, but I, I 767 00:44:10,530 --> 00:44:14,190 follow it. He podcasts, his radio shows. I listened to some 768 00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:16,680 of it from time to time. Here's what he had to say on the Merkel 769 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,220 thing. I think 770 00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:20,580 this is super serious. I think the suggestion is that it has 771 00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:24,540 happened. And I think this is a sharp break a very bad bad 772 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,720 breakdown between Berlin and Washington. The chancellor is 773 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:32,400 very angry, and she'd grew up under the Stasi. Stassi like 774 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,930 manoeuvre? And she right now is more than just a little annoyed. 775 00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:39,000 Larry, this is going to cause demonstrate your 776 00:44:39,029 --> 00:44:43,319 Yes, she is very pissed. And yesterday, the 777 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,620 impression I get if you start I watched a lot of the EURO NEWS 778 00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:50,700 and some of these overseas broadcasts and there is no 779 00:44:50,820 --> 00:44:54,210 nothing like Jay Kaiser. Well, they both agreed. I don't think 780 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:57,540 they agreed on anything. I think she chewed him out. And she's 781 00:44:57,750 --> 00:45:01,110 extremely from what I can tell Like you said, 782 00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:04,890 pissed off. Well, the European Union parliament voted 783 00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:11,280 yesterday. For us access to the global financial database to be 784 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,060 suspended because of concerns the United States is snooping on 785 00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:17,670 the database for financial gain rather than just to combat 786 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:20,340 terrorism. Listen very carefully what I just said. 787 00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:23,970 My old theory, aha, 788 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,840 and the Strasbourg base Parliament because they switch 789 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,610 it up every month or so, voted 280 in favour 254 against 30 790 00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:36,930 Abstentions in the non binding vote, what kind of government 791 00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:42,150 are you people running? Buying? Why vote at all is so dumb, but 792 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:46,410 listen, again, they are worried that the United States has 793 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:50,790 access to the to, to this global financial database. And I and I 794 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:54,570 believe it's, you know, it's all the financial payment system. 795 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:58,080 And the concerns are that were snooping on the database for 796 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,870 financial gain? Yes, yes, yes, yes, you can take that to the 797 00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:08,730 bank. You really can. In fact, you can take that to the bank. 798 00:46:09,210 --> 00:46:14,340 We are so corrupt. So incredibly corrupt. What is going on right 799 00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:18,600 now? And I think that that when you look at this net sec, Wanke. 800 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,260 When you look at because I mean, since when is Snowden in touch 801 00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:25,200 with Lemond? Oh, I'm sorry. He has a new partner all of a 802 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:25,680 sudden, 803 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:28,800 actually, this article is CO written by Glenn Greenwald. 804 00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:32,640 Okay. To green we it's an I have a big thing about must be 805 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,970 just dig. I mean, you know that what was that report that came 806 00:46:35,970 --> 00:46:39,150 out of that Texas operation says we got to get rid of Stratford, 807 00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:40,530 Stratford, Australia? 808 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,850 She asked 809 00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:47,100 for so but it's, but it's, but it's this. You were a Snowden 810 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:50,700 right now he's in Russia. This, I think is probably partially at 811 00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:57,000 least related to a T tip. This is a big fu Obama coming from 812 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,050 Russia, a really, really big one. And 813 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,760 Russians can do these kinds of games. And we we take it I think 814 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,490 we take the Russians a little too for grants lately. 815 00:47:08,490 --> 00:47:12,630 Yeah. Yeah. Now, this is very serious. 816 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,260 Because this is a good play by them if they're the ones that 817 00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:19,080 are really behind this. And it's quite possible. I mean, Glenn 818 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,230 Greenwald's of really old fashioned progressive socialist 819 00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:25,470 type. I mean, far as we know, and, you know, it's known as 820 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:29,100 coincidences in Russia, you know, to and to hear, let's open 821 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:30,180 our eyes. Yeah, 822 00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:34,770 exactly. That's all you have to do is just take a look and see 823 00:47:34,770 --> 00:47:39,090 what's going on. And everything is everything. I mean, the Obama 824 00:47:39,090 --> 00:47:42,630 administration could not have a worst time of everything. I'm 825 00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:47,010 not so sure, you know, that they're sabotage sabotage, 826 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:52,320 involved in in the in, you know, his his key, you know, Legacy 827 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:58,050 legislation. That is supposed to make him You mean, that? Oh, 828 00:47:58,050 --> 00:47:58,410 hell. 829 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,590 Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't think so. I think I don't 830 00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:03,570 think you had to sabotage that. Now. 831 00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:06,990 Putin. Here's how the meeting went. Don't worry. They'll fuck 832 00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:11,760 that up themselves. They have no Russian programmers on here. Oh, 833 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:15,750 okay. Like I got it. So there was this, another one of these 834 00:48:15,870 --> 00:48:21,630 cyber conferences. And the Cyber Conference is nothing more than 835 00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:27,060 a bunch of consultants. All, you know, hopping around, trying to 836 00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:30,390 get money out of the government. So who's there? It's Hayden, 837 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:37,080 it's certo off. It's Gosh, Ed, who's the Rogers name their list 838 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,030 of the current Rogers. Rogers is Rogers. That guy's the worst. 839 00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:46,980 He's he's he is in charge of security in the Senate. Is he 840 00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:47,220 not? 841 00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:50,190 Is it senator or congressman, he's the Congressman but he but 842 00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:53,880 so he's in charge of this stuff. Feinstein's ahead of the Senate 843 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,930 side. Right. 844 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,670 And and so he's the and they've got all the consultants and I 845 00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:05,070 just need to play to little bits here. Let's see what is the here 846 00:49:05,070 --> 00:49:09,570 is here's Hayden. And of course, you know, the All we can do is 847 00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:14,010 scare the public and get ready for legislation so we can you 848 00:49:14,010 --> 00:49:18,900 know, the big bonanza of money. And it's all about cyber, cyber 849 00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:20,190 cyber sigh by 850 00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:23,250 the way I've parsed it is I talked about cyber sins and 851 00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:24,480 cyber centres, cyber 852 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,510 sins and cyber sin. Here we go. 853 00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:30,420 Are you ready? Wonder if Hayden can even use a computer. 854 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,110 It doesn't matter. He's just listened to his right. He's a 855 00:49:34,110 --> 00:49:35,970 smooth talker. His rap is awesome. 856 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,500 So let me just rack up the sins. rack up the sins. There's the 857 00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,810 most prominent one out there and that's and that's just raw 858 00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:45,510 stealing your stuff. Oh, it's cyber espionage? 859 00:49:45,779 --> 00:49:47,669 You mean what we do? Yeah. 860 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:50,880 What do you mean what we do? What do you mean? 861 00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:53,970 That's what we do it that's what the US does. We still stole we 862 00:49:53,970 --> 00:49:54,210 still 863 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:59,040 by the way. In Idaho, the US District Court ruled that if you 864 00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:01,590 call yourself a hacker your Fourth Amendment rights are 865 00:50:01,590 --> 00:50:04,200 essentially gone. What? Yeah. 866 00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:06,150 Where did you get that one 867 00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:10,230 US District Court for the state of Idaho ruled that an an ICS 868 00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:12,840 product developers computer could be seized without him 869 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,930 being notified or even heard from in court primarily because 870 00:50:16,110 --> 00:50:19,830 he states on his website, quote, we like hacking things and don't 871 00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:27,840 want to stop. So if you use that term, you are essentially, if 872 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,960 you use the word hacking, you're essentially saying that, you 873 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,130 know, I could be rogue 874 00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,720 which is somewhat ironic, because hacking is never meant 875 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,300 that he's always been cracking, cracking. Yeah, you know, that 876 00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:43,380 term has been muddied by the media. Alright, onward with 877 00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:45,270 that's okay, go on state purposes, 878 00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:48,270 it's done for commercial purposes. It's done for criminal 879 00:50:48,270 --> 00:50:52,830 purposes. And then then there's cyber activity, to disrupt your 880 00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:56,580 network, to actually not just steal your material, but 881 00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:59,880 actually make it more difficult to use your own infrastructure 882 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,000 for whatever purposes, you've built it. And then finally, and 883 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,600 this has been rare to date, but it's going to become more common 884 00:51:06,990 --> 00:51:09,900 is to use a weapon comprised of ones and zeros. 885 00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:14,370 Oh, John, back up, it's a weapon of ones and zeros in duct tape, 886 00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:18,690 to control someone else's network, to then use that 887 00:51:18,690 --> 00:51:24,360 control to create not cyber damage, but to create physical 888 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:24,780 damage. 889 00:51:26,580 --> 00:51:29,250 Wow, you like what we did? And Iran? 890 00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:31,140 Well, interesting. You say that. 891 00:51:31,170 --> 00:51:34,110 And the poster child for that, obviously, is, is 892 00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:38,070 Stuxnet. He's actually taking credit for doing it 893 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:41,580 and the destruction of what Iran could only describe as their 894 00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:42,570 critical infrastructure. 895 00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:45,960 It's just he's saying it. He's just saying it right there. Hey, 896 00:51:46,170 --> 00:51:47,160 that's the poster child. 897 00:51:47,460 --> 00:51:49,440 This I mean, this is like, we rock. 898 00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:51,840 act of war, we rock. 899 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:55,740 Those are the sins of sinners. Oh, that's the sins now who was 900 00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:57,630 the sinners? Or state actors? 901 00:51:57,660 --> 00:51:58,590 Oh, yeah. 902 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:04,380 USA, criminal gangs, and then a third group, USA hard for me to 903 00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:07,830 define fairly amorphous, I'm just affected. 904 00:52:07,979 --> 00:52:12,509 I think Baptists. Kid, I can't remember how to say it vacuous 905 00:52:12,509 --> 00:52:14,069 Cypher actually was cyphers. 906 00:52:14,279 --> 00:52:19,379 Alright, those with perhaps difficult to understand and even 907 00:52:19,379 --> 00:52:22,019 more difficult to satisfy demand? 908 00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:26,970 Yes, that would be us, John, we demand money. We demand 909 00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:30,090 donations, it's very difficult to understand these people, 910 00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:31,290 these Republicans, 911 00:52:31,710 --> 00:52:35,670 and blessedly if you look at this taxonomy of of senators, 912 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,090 the most competent are up here at the state level, and then 913 00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:41,640 criminals, and then this third group. I love it. 914 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,090 How is it the most competent are up here at the state level? He's 915 00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:49,170 He's calling himself a competent, warmonger. It's 916 00:52:49,230 --> 00:52:50,100 unbelievable. This 917 00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,500 guy, and that's good. I mean, it's good states can behave 918 00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:55,950 badly, but states have to be aware of consequences. 919 00:52:56,550 --> 00:53:00,510 Well, the subtext here was was the whole of her so forth. The 920 00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:04,530 subtext here is to people listening is there is not 921 00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:08,370 through the no agenda lens. They're listening from the oh, 922 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,130 they're talking about China. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, 923 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:15,180 no, no, no, no. This is why I brought it up. Here is the thank 924 00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:19,710 you for for that segue. Here is Lewis the, I think the CEO of 925 00:53:19,710 --> 00:53:24,780 CSI s technology, which is he's up on the day of so he's in he's 926 00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:25,830 got the contract 927 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:28,830 to echo something that General Hayden said, though, I was 928 00:53:28,860 --> 00:53:33,750 talking to a member of a European intelligence service a 929 00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:40,050 couple of weeks ago, who said that, in their view, there are 930 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,540 20 or 30, somewhere between 20 and 30, high end criminal groups 931 00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:49,290 that have the capabilities of a nation state when it comes to 932 00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:54,750 cyber activities. And that these groups are most of them live in 933 00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:57,480 a country that begins with the letter R. It's all 934 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,700 you know, that's both by the way. Most of them live in the 935 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,890 country with the begins with the letter U. 936 00:54:05,609 --> 00:54:08,999 Yeah, the United States. No, well, well, that's funny, but 937 00:54:08,999 --> 00:54:09,119 the 938 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,910 Ukraine is where these guys come if you want to start something 939 00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:15,150 up that you don't want to ever get out of the Ukraine, but in 940 00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:16,680 the Ukraine, but you have to work with the gangs. 941 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,780 The point is, this is he's on the inside. And he's being told 942 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:26,370 it's the Russians man is freaking Putin guy. And that's 943 00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:28,470 why it's the letter. Why can't he just say Russia? Why does he 944 00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:30,600 have to? It's the letter R. 945 00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:32,700 Yeah, really? What now you're talking about, you know, acting 946 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:36,750 like a mean girl that two year old? Yeah, I started with the 947 00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:41,040 letter R. Why did you say Russia? I don't know. You want 948 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:41,100 to 949 00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,020 hear the rest of Hayden, or do you want to know I want to hear 950 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:43,590 more of this guy, 951 00:54:43,770 --> 00:54:46,200 not Romania. It's not Romania. 952 00:54:47,009 --> 00:54:49,859 It could be a guessing game with the audience. 953 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:54,630 Let me see. It's not Romania. It could be. Boy, this is really 954 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:57,480 hard. funda Rwanda, 955 00:54:57,509 --> 00:55:01,259 these groups are focused heavily on the financial sector looking 956 00:55:01,259 --> 00:55:03,239 for ways to get money unlike the 957 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,960 Americans who are in your database, hello or Europe, 958 00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:12,270 looking for ways to steal your money and and bet against you 959 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:14,910 God, like people we need to revolt. 960 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,520 And that we're seeing this diffusion of capabilities, the 961 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,330 commoditization of cyber attack, so that people are going to be 962 00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:25,350 able to go online and 963 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:32,100 you can go on Amazon s3 Order a cyber attack, you can order an 964 00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:34,590 instance of a cyber attack, you can start up an instance, 965 00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:37,530 it's a commodities homage to cyber tie. What kind of a 966 00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:41,370 Cybertech Do you want to have a little laundry list? Services 967 00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:46,890 tag? Yeah, you can rack up your page views on your advertising. 968 00:55:46,890 --> 00:55:48,090 You know, there's all kinds of things you're gonna 969 00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:51,930 what does that thing called? on Amazon? When you set up an EC to 970 00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:57,750 an instance it has a name like? What is it called? I don't know. 971 00:55:57,870 --> 00:56:00,420 I so I'll come back to tools 972 00:56:00,420 --> 00:56:03,900 that will let them go after targets that we might 973 00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:07,680 think it's Ami. Yeah, Amazon Machine Image. That's what it 974 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,490 is. You just get boarded up an order up on Amazon EC to Ami. I 975 00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:15,840 just thought we're safe a year or two ago. So there's been some 976 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,970 progress, certainly in the last few years, it'd be more progress 977 00:56:17,970 --> 00:56:20,550 so we could pass the darn bill in the House. 978 00:56:20,879 --> 00:56:22,559 But what Doris 979 00:56:23,370 --> 00:56:27,120 This is funny, because he screws it up. He screws it up, listen. 980 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:34,650 Well, they're the Senate as the house is built. At its house. 981 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,660 I'd like to see your bill become law. Yeah, 982 00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:43,920 of course you do and fail is this. It's the Bonanza bill. Who 983 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,070 knows what Bill it is. It's a bill for money. And all right, 984 00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:52,920 I'm gonna I'll finish it off with Rogers, the congressman 985 00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:58,590 who's in charge of cybersecurity oversight of the NSA 986 00:56:58,590 --> 00:57:03,480 essentially, is on the committee. And well, it besides 987 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,470 of course, giving this guy this Louis guy. Billions of dollars 988 00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:11,280 no doubt for bull crap for so we so we can't start up our Amazon 989 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,720 easy to AMI instances to commoditize cyber attacks. We 990 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,450 also have to educate the stupid slaves. How would you do that? 991 00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:22,140 John, if you were a congressman, and and you know you are not 992 00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:26,220 let's say you and I are both in Congress. And we could we need 993 00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:31,170 to educate people about cybersecurity. What should we 994 00:57:31,170 --> 00:57:33,600 do? I think we should do some PSAs. What do you think, John? 995 00:57:33,660 --> 00:57:37,170 I think PSAs are good. They worked very well for the music 996 00:57:37,170 --> 00:57:37,770 industry. 997 00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:42,450 What do you think we need to get a mascot? 998 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,950 Mass mascot mascot has always got the kid the kids love the 999 00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:49,560 mascot love a mascot giant chicken? 1000 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,600 Well, you can wait for it people. 1001 00:57:51,630 --> 00:57:55,680 So what we're trying to accomplish is this about 80% of 1002 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,370 the threat, roughly is something that the private sector can 1003 00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:03,630 absolutely handle. We can handle through education. You know, the 1004 00:58:03,630 --> 00:58:08,790 Friday the firewall PSA is coming to you real soon, about 1005 00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:10,440 how you can protect your own network. 1006 00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:15,810 I can't wait for the day to roll today. 1007 00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:20,759 Ready? The firewall is ready to firewall. Do you want to keep 1008 00:58:20,759 --> 00:58:23,549 bad Russians? I mean, people from countries with Nanos letter 1009 00:58:23,549 --> 00:58:27,389 that start with are out of your computer. While you don't have a 1010 00:58:27,389 --> 00:58:30,089 computer because you only have an iPad, you can actually learn 1011 00:58:30,089 --> 00:58:32,879 how to do anything on it, but Freddie's gonna protect you. 1012 00:58:33,329 --> 00:58:34,979 It's funny the firewall 1013 00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:39,270 you found your voice over gig. Hey, hey, kid, 1014 00:58:39,330 --> 00:58:42,810 you can't watch porn. It can't get in because the firewall is 1015 00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:46,650 protecting you. Oh, oh, no, you can't download the podcast from 1016 00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:50,670 the no agenda show. Funny the firewall protecting you. I think 1017 00:58:50,670 --> 00:58:53,070 you're right. I got one. I nailed it. I should do all 1018 00:58:53,070 --> 00:58:55,170 nailed it. I got it. I got to do a 1019 00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:59,910 bunch of PSAs. On the show, 1020 00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,800 I need script. Oh, I 1021 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,520 can write your script. 1022 00:59:02,550 --> 00:59:05,760 I'd write me some script. Hey, kids, it's ready. The firewall 1023 00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:09,090 guy. I think I can replicate it. It's funny the firewall 1024 00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:13,320 can do that over and over. It's because it's a voice that you 1025 00:59:13,350 --> 00:59:15,540 well, you don't commonly do that voice ever. I've 1026 00:59:15,540 --> 00:59:17,250 never. It's brand name. Bensi. Right. 1027 00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:20,430 He really? You can do that. I think now you can just jump to 1028 00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:22,140 it. Okay, ready? Yeah. 1029 00:59:23,310 --> 00:59:25,020 I'm plugging all the holes. 1030 00:59:26,370 --> 00:59:27,300 I like the cracking. 1031 00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:36,900 Firewall says blog. Kids. Plug your boards. What do I see that 1032 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:42,450 little Tina? Do you have an open port at the firewall won't be 1033 00:59:42,450 --> 00:59:45,390 happy. Okay. Hey, 1034 00:59:45,870 --> 00:59:49,590 let me say this. In the morning to you John C. Dvorak. 1035 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,900 Well, in the morning, do you Adam curry in the morning, 1036 00:59:52,170 --> 00:59:54,690 Friday the firewall in the morning all ships at sea boots 1037 00:59:54,690 --> 00:59:57,750 on the ground feed their subs in the water. And all the days and 1038 00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:58,500 nights out there. 1039 00:59:58,710 --> 01:00:01,260 In the morning everyone there in the chat. Room human resources. 1040 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,530 See the no agenda stream.com no agenda chat.net in the morning 1041 01:00:07,530 --> 01:00:11,610 to all of our artists Jackie girl thank you so much for the 1042 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,060 album mark for episode 558 Apparently the the new podcast 1043 01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:24,300 or the the updated podcast app on the iOS is not showing the 1044 01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:27,720 new album art. We're not sure why I don't think we're doing 1045 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,920 anything differently but some people have had luck by deleting 1046 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,040 it and reinstalling it. Yeah, you know, it's a glitch. It's 1047 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,610 just a little glitch. No worries. And of course you can 1048 01:00:38,610 --> 01:00:42,330 always see what the latest art is and all submissions and no 1049 01:00:42,330 --> 01:00:46,620 agenda art generator.com And we have some executive producers to 1050 01:00:46,620 --> 01:00:47,760 thank Yeah, we do. 1051 01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:52,410 Approaching show. Our show for the commemorates our sixth 1052 01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:55,470 anniversary, which is on the 28th which is coming right up. 1053 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,010 We are getting people affecting us. 1054 01:00:59,250 --> 01:01:02,700 Our next our next show will be the last show before the 28th 1055 01:01:02,850 --> 01:01:03,150 right and 1056 01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:06,090 we'll make that our anniversary show on the 27th Okay, got it. 1057 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,750 Yeah, that would be good. So so we had an incident night Peter 1058 01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:13,950 Wiesner in Apple Valley, Minnesota. I came in with $1,000 1059 01:01:14,220 --> 01:01:17,670 Although it came in on my spreadsheet is x x x x. 1060 01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:19,920 If you expand your 1061 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:27,600 Yes, I realise your cells bigger. Anyway, it's crazy. He 1062 01:01:29,070 --> 01:01:32,250 started off by talking about Leo Laporte when he was doing his 1063 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:34,740 IPO called it play money because they bought Instagram for a 1064 01:01:34,740 --> 01:01:39,090 billion dollars and John looked up a put a Facebook then I'm 1065 01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:42,390 listening to Max Keiser, and he called it a pump and dump. This 1066 01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:44,580 is all true for the first six months of it in the market. I 1067 01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:48,060 emailed Adam saying he did not have the guts to buy the FB IPO, 1068 01:01:48,510 --> 01:01:52,110 a Facebook putt putt. But I have been trading for the last three 1069 01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:56,910 months. I started with $1,150 and now the 4400. If you're in 1070 01:01:56,910 --> 01:02:00,090 Congress, of course you'd be millionaire by now. The one of 1071 01:02:00,090 --> 01:02:03,510 you or John asked Leo what he thinks of the upcoming Twitter. 1072 01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:03,660 I 1073 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,960 guess he plays he plays Leo's advice, 1074 01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:11,520 I guess or as the opposite opposite. Yeah. Which by the 1075 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,490 way, is a technique a lot of people use for a lot of stock 1076 01:02:14,490 --> 01:02:18,240 analysts. That's a great idea. In the Sunday show if you guys 1077 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,270 could give me two stocks that are going to hit the shit the 1078 01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:25,080 bed it was great. I made 2k on JC Penney going out of business. 1079 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,390 I need more stocks to look at. All right, 1080 01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:30,570 I'm not good at that. We can advise any listen to the DHF 1081 01:02:30,570 --> 01:02:30,780 plug 1082 01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:32,730 show you get some however, Peter, thank 1083 01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:35,670 you so much for sharing the wealth. We really appreciate 1084 01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:39,210 that instant night today. That's fantastic. Very lucky. Very 1085 01:02:39,210 --> 01:02:40,380 nice. Thank you so much. 1086 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,760 Ashley Jones in Provo, Utah 66666. To celebrate our 1087 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,250 anniversary Keep up the good Orisha in the Morning John and 1088 01:02:47,250 --> 01:02:51,210 Adam after learning that Adam was looking into Satanism. I 1089 01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:52,170 decided a mark of 1090 01:02:52,170 --> 01:02:55,290 looking into it. What do you mean I'm all in when I look into 1091 01:02:55,290 --> 01:02:55,650 it? I'm 1092 01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,870 Satanism today. Wife swapping tomorrow this donation will 1093 01:03:00,870 --> 01:03:03,660 complete my knighthood since I donate three 300 The Hot Pocket 1094 01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:08,760 store in SLC I like to be dubbed Sir Jack Mormon, Justin. Hail 1095 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:09,360 Satan. 1096 01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:18,480 Satan I gotta write this down Sir Jack. Mormon Justin okay, 1097 01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:24,990 this is never on the this is never in the in the notes. Do it 1098 01:03:24,990 --> 01:03:25,560 manually. 1099 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:30,750 Andrew gamble 66666 Another one other soccer sixes very nice. 1100 01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:37,110 Sega sixes Spring Creek, Nevada. Francis and Irene ITM please 1101 01:03:37,110 --> 01:03:39,720 accept the sixth anniversary special donation early vaulting 1102 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,210 me into the realm of Knighthood give us donation in an effort to 1103 01:03:42,210 --> 01:03:46,770 get the bonus off their asses. By the way, all those who 1104 01:03:46,770 --> 01:03:51,270 support the show Yes, Aye. Aye report. I am ready for the food 1105 01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:53,790 riots. I would like to be known as Sir Oscar. 1106 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,940 See, okay, so I take some of it back, sir. 1107 01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:02,700 He needs a Karma car. 1108 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,750 Yeah, absolutely. 1109 01:04:06,210 --> 01:04:07,860 You've got karma 1110 01:04:07,890 --> 01:04:12,300 take it back. Eric actually had sir Mormon Justin but he didn't 1111 01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:16,290 have sir Oscar. So we gotta we gotta like super night EJ today 1112 01:04:16,290 --> 01:04:17,220 this is grey is a 1113 01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:21,210 record breaker for knighthoods over the top, and we have to 1114 01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:24,630 commend them and we have to make put this in the book as a 1115 01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:26,940 record. I think they deserve to be beaten. 1116 01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:30,300 I think a lot of people timed it to be you know, just leading up 1117 01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:32,220 to the sixth anniversary. A lot of people came 1118 01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:38,250 time it again for the Sunday show. Wow. McConnell 399 zeros 1119 01:04:38,820 --> 01:04:41,880 at a stream nine and 96 from Peter O'Connor McConnell from 1120 01:04:41,970 --> 01:04:45,570 Stockholm, New Jersey. Greeting 1121 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,630 greetings from tsusho It's actually China Stockholm, New 1122 01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:50,250 Jersey. And pseudo Nice. 1123 01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:54,810 To Jos a nice town. It said the foot of the Silk Road. This 1124 01:04:54,810 --> 01:04:57,660 funny drought Chinese flowing around China. And every time you 1125 01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:00,480 go to these towns like Sue Jo, they say Oh yeah, well We're on 1126 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,660 the Silk Road. It's like every town in China somehow is on the 1127 01:05:03,660 --> 01:05:06,480 Silk Road that thing must have been really poorly do they have 1128 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:06,930 signs 1129 01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:10,530 that say Silk Road this way? Silk glowed 1130 01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:14,700 Syriana Missouri clothed. Gentlemen say yes do more of 1131 01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:18,090 that would be good. It gets more letters. Gentlemen, thank you 1132 01:05:18,090 --> 01:05:20,520 for your courage I haven't donated in a while and recent 1133 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,730 came into some money and here's the 6x Sack a six is in honour 1134 01:05:23,730 --> 01:05:26,220 of six years the best podcast in universe in addition is 1135 01:05:26,220 --> 01:05:28,500 completely my knighthood. I hope this meagre offering will make 1136 01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:32,160 up for the not so kind words my wife had for Miss Mickey. And 1137 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,370 after hearing her thoughts on eugenics, and the Chinese and 1138 01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:37,410 Episode 552, I'd like to remind 1139 01:05:37,410 --> 01:05:39,930 you miss Mickey's idea of saving the world is kill all the 1140 01:05:39,930 --> 01:05:46,020 Chinese. She said that. Well, not exactly. But that's how it 1141 01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:47,100 came out on the show. 1142 01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:50,280 Oh, okay. Well, that would be good that would that would 1143 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,180 generate some anger. Well, so as perhaps one of your only 1144 01:05:54,180 --> 01:05:56,220 listeners in mainland China. Actually, we have a couple. 1145 01:05:56,220 --> 01:05:59,670 Yeah, I can confirm that in no way. Do they support or promote 1146 01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:03,600 the 1010 here? No, it's no they wouldn't, because the 1010 1147 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,530 celebration is a Taiwanese thing, right? It's not a Chinese 1148 01:06:07,530 --> 01:06:07,650 thing. 1149 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,900 I thought it was I thought it was a Chinese thing. I 1150 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:12,720 misunderstood. I made it clear. Well, I guess I didn't I wasn't 1151 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,250 listening. What else nobody was. The logic is simple. PR China 1152 01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:20,490 does not recognise the ARO Republic of China and as a 1153 01:06:20,490 --> 01:06:23,970 sovereign state. Right. In other words People's Republic Republic 1154 01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:27,630 have and therefore does not celebrate or even note Taiwan, 1155 01:06:27,630 --> 01:06:30,570 so called National Day. Indeed, my students first year at 1156 01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:33,540 university are not even aware of the significance of the date. 1157 01:06:33,570 --> 01:06:35,700 Wow, wish to keep the information from them. Why 1158 01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:39,330 should they know? PR China's National Week begins in October 1159 01:06:39,330 --> 01:06:41,970 the first week and biggest celebration here is the biggest 1160 01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:45,000 celebration here next to the Chinese New Year. Of course, one 1161 01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:48,510 anyway, one simple request for my night and can it be the opium 1162 01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:54,240 and warm orange juice? In lieu of titties and beer? 1163 01:06:54,330 --> 01:06:57,150 Well, I don't think we ever had titties and beer but I really 1164 01:06:57,150 --> 01:07:03,870 like the open and warm orange juice, which is of course, your 1165 01:07:03,870 --> 01:07:04,290 tip. 1166 01:07:05,130 --> 01:07:07,830 Then, by the way, I had that in the town of Suzhou. 1167 01:07:08,490 --> 01:07:11,100 There you go. That's what he knows all about it my friend. 1168 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,030 Nice. 1169 01:07:12,930 --> 01:07:21,090 John's zent veld in new rebar New South Wales 345. Hello from 1170 01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:24,540 Gitmo down under East Side man well overdue to support the 1171 01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:27,750 programme and after being a longtime listener, if we could 1172 01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:30,720 have some business sale karma in our time of need, it would be 1173 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,010 most appreciated. 1174 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,250 Absolutely. John's on felt ready to tell you Yes. 1175 01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:37,620 You've got karma. 1176 01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:41,610 I gotta say my voice Yes. If your voice for the for the 1177 01:07:41,610 --> 01:07:46,140 firewall guy. David Julian 333 33. Morgan Hill California 1178 01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:50,310 our buddy blue fire hydrant no agenda. 1179 01:07:50,490 --> 01:07:56,100 Love it. When isn't he isn't he a night by now are like a super 1180 01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:56,430 nice 1181 01:07:56,430 --> 01:07:59,910 it should be giggle calm. Dave Sir David. Yeah, we and we got 1182 01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:03,210 to because this has been giving us this saying this little meme 1183 01:08:03,210 --> 01:08:05,190 for people out there. If you don't know what we're talking 1184 01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:08,010 about Blue Fire Hydrant no agenda. Go let listen to the 1185 01:08:08,010 --> 01:08:12,540 last show. By rar.com is Associate Executive producer 1186 01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:18,750 from Omaha, Nebraska. $250. Your friendly producer from be brass 1187 01:08:18,750 --> 01:08:22,800 nuts. I was cynical here before I found no agenda. Your show 1188 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,750 just helped me realise that was right more often than I. Which 1189 01:08:27,750 --> 01:08:31,110 by the way is a classic response to this show. Once you start 1190 01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:34,200 listening to it, people, the people that we have as 1191 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,780 listeners, I should remind everyone, or people who have 1192 01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:40,020 always watched the news with some cynicism, and they've said 1193 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,310 that can't be right. But no one has ever come out like we do and 1194 01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:47,430 do the kind of research to prove that that isn't right or even 1195 01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:50,400 thinking all along is correct 1196 01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:56,700 or even have the audacity to question and here's how it 1197 01:08:56,730 --> 01:09:01,710 happens. We question we mock and then people start sending us 1198 01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:04,740 information and then before you know it, it turns out our hunch 1199 01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:05,400 was right 1200 01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:11,400 servera slough mer and off in Aliso Viejo, California turn it 1201 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,830 off to be Alaska Associate Executive Producer the lowball 1202 01:09:13,830 --> 01:09:19,470 karma worked, I bid $39,000 under the asking price. Now send 1203 01:09:19,470 --> 01:09:23,040 the loan approval and financial karma Thank you. Good luck. 1204 01:09:23,490 --> 01:09:25,950 I know how we can do that. You can take that to the bank. 1205 01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:28,470 You've got 1206 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,470 financial and loan karma. And let me just read it one more 1207 01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:35,280 time. Nice. Yeah, Miss Mickey does not want to kill all 1208 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:42,060 Chinese. Little maybe too late. Wife. No, the 1209 01:09:42,150 --> 01:09:47,550 blade came around the door. Oh, yeah. Okay. I just want to make 1210 01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:48,450 sure you all heard it. 1211 01:09:48,990 --> 01:09:51,810 I'm glad that she listens once in a while. She always 1212 01:09:51,810 --> 01:09:56,610 listens. Let me tell you. My wife listens to every single 1213 01:09:56,610 --> 01:09:59,490 episode if she's if she has an appointment, go somewhere to 1214 01:09:59,490 --> 01:10:03,030 listen to it. later, every single 1215 01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:05,910 give a crap about the show anymore. She used to listen to 1216 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:08,880 when she was driving a lot. Yeah. But now she's not driving 1217 01:10:08,910 --> 01:10:11,490 this is a lot of this is the only problem we have with our 1218 01:10:11,490 --> 01:10:15,180 show. It tends to be for people who driving around a lot, which 1219 01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:16,260 is most of the public. 1220 01:10:16,290 --> 01:10:18,870 You know what a lot of people do they do. They clean their house 1221 01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:19,740 listening to the show. 1222 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,100 Yeah, a lot of people use the show as an exercising, because 1223 01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:26,190 some of the stuff that we bring up is so aggravating. And 1224 01:10:26,190 --> 01:10:32,280 really, you really want to want a bike on a bike more? Well, 1225 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,100 thank you very much to the stellar list of executive 1226 01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:38,760 producers and associate Associate Executive producers. I 1227 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:44,580 feel so much I feel so superior to Hollywood, when you have the 1228 01:10:44,610 --> 01:10:47,280 I mean, this is superior to what Netflix is doing, to what 1229 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,210 anyone's doing. And we have the people who want the show, 1230 01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:55,440 supporting the show. And not just financially but with 1231 01:10:55,440 --> 01:11:01,290 information and an insight and experience quite honestly, I got 1232 01:11:01,290 --> 01:11:06,270 a we get so much. I got an email here. Just an example. Just a 1233 01:11:06,270 --> 01:11:09,720 little example. Adam, I'm a criminal defence attorney in Los 1234 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,410 Angeles. I'm sitting in court now listening to a bail hearing 1235 01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:16,230 in regards to the kid who put a couple of dry ice bottles at 1236 01:11:16,230 --> 01:11:21,090 LAX. If this judge says post 911 World One more time I'm going to 1237 01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:28,230 have an aneurysm anyway, so he says hey, you know it, I'm happy 1238 01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:31,710 to chat. My perspective fill you know, anything you need to know. 1239 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,700 Just keep me anonymous. If that's the kind of people we 1240 01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:40,710 have listening, we're sitting there listening to this crap and 1241 01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:44,610 know that it's crap and go home and have understanding and watch 1242 01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:47,790 the news or read the news and the paper and see the reporting 1243 01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:48,270 is crap. 1244 01:11:49,230 --> 01:11:55,050 And then according is dreadful, dreadful crap. So before you say 1245 01:11:55,050 --> 01:11:58,500 so again, I want to remind people to go to divorce 1246 01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:03,360 iq.org/na We get Sunday is our will be the sixth anniversary 1247 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,740 show. Go to divorce dad. org slash na help us celebrate go to 1248 01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:12,750 a challenge of org.com/n A or if you hit no agenda show or no 1249 01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:17,610 agenda nation.com You can find a button to push but divorce.org/n 1250 01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:23,490 A and we'll have a nice Sunday to discuss the next six years 1251 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:30,270 to fall rock.org/na donate enough to be nit some day. 1252 01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:33,030 I look forward to that episode, I've got some things to say 1253 01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:35,490 please, propagator for me. In the meantime, heart formula 1254 01:12:35,490 --> 01:12:39,480 is this. We go out, we get people in the mouth 1255 01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:54,090 can take that to the bank. If you would indulge me for just a 1256 01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:57,810 moment longer, John, because we kind of we had to thank our 1257 01:12:57,810 --> 01:13:00,960 executive our execs and associate execs. But I was kind 1258 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,680 of on a on a roll here about the cyber and the stuff that's going 1259 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,610 on and the end the meeting and the media and how things are 1260 01:13:08,610 --> 01:13:12,180 being reported on. And I think I stumbled upon something pretty 1261 01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:17,880 big. That is that is right up our alley. And I think I'm 1262 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,880 actually very, very interested. And this involves Glenn 1263 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,510 Greenwald, who I'm usually quite critical of but this may be 1264 01:13:24,510 --> 01:13:27,150 very, very interesting. I think I figured out what they are 1265 01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:32,850 going to do. And I was I started my research and the first thing 1266 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:38,940 I found was an interview on NPR, our national treasure who of 1267 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:42,240 course have absolutely no interest in promoting anything 1268 01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:47,250 alternative to them. And they had on Jay Rosen, who is Is he a 1269 01:13:47,970 --> 01:13:51,750 professor, or he's a he teaches journalism at NYU. 1270 01:13:51,810 --> 01:13:54,450 I think he's a Presidential Innovation Fellow. 1271 01:13:55,170 --> 01:13:55,950 I don't think so. 1272 01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:59,220 Is he is he evac is Cypher, 1273 01:14:00,030 --> 01:14:01,710 more is more along those lines. 1274 01:14:01,890 --> 01:14:06,210 Whoa, what quick say something about his his appearance so we 1275 01:14:06,210 --> 01:14:09,690 can describe. So here's a just a setup. And then I'll tell you 1276 01:14:09,690 --> 01:14:10,350 where it went from there. 1277 01:14:10,380 --> 01:14:12,960 York University journalism professor and founder of the 1278 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,400 press think blog says Omidyar told him that he wants to build 1279 01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:19,890 a new kind of news organisation. So 1280 01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:23,850 this is about the the the rumour $250 million 1281 01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:26,610 committing right this was I heard this this interview and I 1282 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,730 was on that show that they have on on the national treasure on 1283 01:14:29,730 --> 01:14:32,400 the media on the media. And yeah, we would give a little 1284 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,300 background on Omid OB so in media art ever How do you 1285 01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:36,570 pronounce 1286 01:14:37,050 --> 01:14:40,980 pr pr on the air? Our PR is the founder of eBay, 1287 01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:45,660 multibillionaire and as it turns out, quite a few people in 1288 01:14:45,660 --> 01:14:49,740 technology are getting into the news business. Of course, we 1289 01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:53,310 have Jeff Bezos, who bought the Washington Post for $250 1290 01:14:53,310 --> 01:14:58,350 million. This was the impetus for only omdia Omidyar to say 1291 01:14:58,350 --> 01:15:03,780 he's going to commit 250 million dollars to, to this new venture 1292 01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:06,900 with Greenwald Scahill and Laura Poitras 1293 01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,950 of the big three that are always on Democracy Now. The team 1294 01:15:10,980 --> 01:15:16,740 but also know that Steve Jobs widow invested in Ozy media 1295 01:15:16,740 --> 01:15:19,020 which is you know, there's a couple of people in there 1296 01:15:20,430 --> 01:15:23,100 I don't know this now you're gonna have to stop for a second 1297 01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:23,640 Tell Me More 1298 01:15:23,730 --> 01:15:27,930 Posey media a new startup. With her investment. She joins a 1299 01:15:27,930 --> 01:15:31,050 group that includes angel investor Ron Conway, Larry 1300 01:15:31,050 --> 01:15:35,130 Sonsini Sonsini is huge. I mean, of course, he needs a law firm. 1301 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,300 Yes. But Larry Sonsini is investing in this vent. Well, 1302 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,030 he's always been at the Sonsini Wilson Sonsini has always been 1303 01:15:42,030 --> 01:15:47,190 Apple's law firm. So that's logical. Dan Rosensweig, need a 1304 01:15:47,190 --> 01:15:49,140 lawyer to run a big media company. 1305 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,220 You need lawyers man, David Drummond, Google's chief legal 1306 01:15:53,220 --> 01:15:53,970 officer, 1307 01:15:54,090 --> 01:15:57,270 I can see that she's going to be sued by AWS media works. I can 1308 01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:58,860 see that coming down Broadway. But 1309 01:15:59,070 --> 01:16:04,830 if you look, if you just kind of look out over the over the new 1310 01:16:04,830 --> 01:16:11,040 media realm, we have nothing but venture backed investment in not 1311 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,670 no news organisations that are just other than by the way, a 1312 01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:18,450 few like the no agenda show that have no investment, no strings 1313 01:16:18,450 --> 01:16:19,620 attached. I mean, if you look 1314 01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:22,950 at Viola strings attached, I mean, Pan dough, I think is the 1315 01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:26,520 best example of a media company that was started Sara Lacey's 1316 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,540 operation started with venture capitalists giving her a lot of 1317 01:16:30,540 --> 01:16:32,400 money to write positive things. 1318 01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:35,880 Well, I would say it started more with TechCrunch where 1319 01:16:36,269 --> 01:16:39,509 TechCrunch Right, right. They were the best that was modelled 1320 01:16:39,509 --> 01:16:41,099 after because she came out of TechCrunch. But 1321 01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:44,100 even Huffington Post, it was losing its shirt. You know, 1322 01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:47,670 before I teamed up with AOL, and AOL is, of course, I think, I 1323 01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:52,290 believe still losing money. Vox media, Buzzfeed Business 1324 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,400 Insider. 1325 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,480 All that speed is one of the progenitors and one of the main 1326 01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:01,410 players when it comes to native advertising. Yeah, are so often 1327 01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:05,280 cited as one of the examples of how great this is. And I think 1328 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,830 what you're seeing here with all these venture capital people, 1329 01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:11,430 you're getting involved as they see. And I believe me, I would 1330 01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:14,610 start a little company on the side, too. Besides the no 1331 01:17:14,610 --> 01:17:17,340 agenda, no agenda show, I'd be telling the truth. And then 1332 01:17:17,370 --> 01:17:20,850 adult media campaign would be the native advertising company. 1333 01:17:20,850 --> 01:17:24,960 Mazal just put nothing but ads for kids, it's ready to fire Oh, 1334 01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:29,970 yeah. With the General Electric guy in there, put them ready 1335 01:17:29,970 --> 01:17:33,810 kilowatt, you know, just just so take as much money as you can. 1336 01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:38,040 Alright. So I think this is all about in my opinion. Well, 1337 01:17:38,460 --> 01:17:44,010 here's what's interesting. It really came out in a weird way. 1338 01:17:44,010 --> 01:17:49,440 But I think most people are interested in a Why did? Why did 1339 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:53,040 Greenwald. Why did this come out, you know, apparently was 1340 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,620 leaked? We'll get into that in a second. What are they going to 1341 01:17:55,620 --> 01:17:58,800 do with $250 million? Because there's lots and lots of 1342 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,030 questions. What Oh, my God. And I think journalism in general is 1343 01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:05,910 in such a state of flux, that there shouldn't be a lot of 1344 01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:08,280 interest. So of course, what do we do is we call the expert Jay 1345 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:08,790 Rosen. 1346 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:13,200 You want, first of all, to find more people like Glenn 1347 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:18,450 Greenwald, who are independent journalists, who have subject 1348 01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:22,380 matter expertise is very important to him, as well as 1349 01:18:22,380 --> 01:18:28,350 their own voice as well as an online following. And then 1350 01:18:28,380 --> 01:18:35,280 provide them with a platform and tools. And he also believes that 1351 01:18:35,310 --> 01:18:39,810 you need to bring the work of such journalists to a broader 1352 01:18:39,810 --> 01:18:43,290 audience than their niches might allow them on their own. 1353 01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:48,300 They're bitches. Okay. So clearly is like, he knows 1354 01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:53,070 nothing. Now, here's what happened there is this. I think 1355 01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:59,250 it's a podcast in Germany, called Young in a naive, which I 1356 01:18:59,250 --> 01:19:04,110 think is young and naive, young and naive. And you I know that 1357 01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:07,350 you've had this happen to you, John, you're on, you're on the 1358 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:10,680 road, maybe you're doing a press tour, or whatever. And you're in 1359 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,400 a hotel, and it's like, you know, and either either you've 1360 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,070 set it up or you have you know, so you're a press agent or 1361 01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:20,250 someone or whoever's arranging the speech that you're doing, 1362 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,680 hey, you know, we've got these local guys and I really want to 1363 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,010 do an interview with you. And you know, yeah, right. And and 1364 01:19:26,010 --> 01:19:29,520 what happens when you do these interviews, you let your guard 1365 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,670 down? Because you're like, Oh, this is just some stupid little 1366 01:19:32,670 --> 01:19:36,090 German thing. You know, some guy who can barely speak English. 1367 01:19:36,570 --> 01:19:37,170 Yeah, 1368 01:19:37,230 --> 01:19:40,050 I don't let my guard down because I don't have a guard. 1369 01:19:41,670 --> 01:19:48,210 So Jeremy Scahill is in Germany. And he's in a hotel, and he is 1370 01:19:48,210 --> 01:19:51,750 in his video interview, I pulled a couple. It was so phenomenal 1371 01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:56,430 because he is such an amateur. He completely, spills 1372 01:19:56,460 --> 01:19:58,980 everything. Everything about 1373 01:19:59,820 --> 01:20:03,330 me For you play this and I want to add to this because it was 1374 01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:08,430 there was a huge kind of a guy apparently, Pierre found this 1375 01:20:08,430 --> 01:20:11,490 annoying that the whole idea of this thing that he was 1376 01:20:11,490 --> 01:20:14,730 developing was leaked. Uh huh. And I've always been convinced 1377 01:20:14,730 --> 01:20:17,010 it's that Scahill can't keep his mouth shot. 1378 01:20:17,580 --> 01:20:18,750 It wasn't Scahill 1379 01:20:19,710 --> 01:20:21,090 also he says who it was. 1380 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,660 Let's get into it and click play it. I'm pleased with with the 1381 01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:29,670 knowledge know that the WikiLeaks movie opened up to a 1382 01:20:29,670 --> 01:20:34,950 whopping $1.6 million box office. So that's the console. 1383 01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:38,940 Yeah, complete failure. That movie's closing as we speak. 1384 01:20:39,450 --> 01:20:42,540 Wow, I didn't know this. Either. You got me done three or four 1385 01:20:42,540 --> 01:20:43,230 things today. 1386 01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:45,060 You got to get up early in the morning, Dornoch, 1387 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,330 I get up early in the morning. That's the problem now. I'm days 1388 01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:49,770 about 10 o'clock, I'm kind of zoned 1389 01:20:49,980 --> 01:20:53,460 out. So either of this is the promotion was wrong, or it's 1390 01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:57,120 also possible no one, no one gives a crap. 1391 01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,700 I think the second rationale, I think 1392 01:20:59,700 --> 01:21:02,670 you're right. And I think that has opened up an opportunity. 1393 01:21:02,670 --> 01:21:06,630 But let's listen first to Scott Hill, about the leak. 1394 01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:09,120 He's not hiring us. We're not employees. This is something 1395 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,690 we're doing as a collaborative project. And we're gonna be 1396 01:21:12,690 --> 01:21:15,540 bringing onboard some really exciting young journalists and 1397 01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:18,930 also some veteran journalists to work with us. And you know, it's 1398 01:21:18,930 --> 01:21:21,120 still in its, you know, word of it got leaked, we all deal in 1399 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,880 the world of leaks. Someone leaked that we were doing this, 1400 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,230 I have no idea who it was. We're 1401 01:21:25,230 --> 01:21:30,990 now now right there, I want to say, how can you be trusted? I 1402 01:21:30,990 --> 01:21:34,380 would never trust him. Now. You can't even keep your own plans 1403 01:21:34,410 --> 01:21:39,660 secret. Or Glenn Greenwald planned it because as far as I 1404 01:21:39,660 --> 01:21:43,530 can tell, the news was broken, quote, unquote, on Buzzfeed with 1405 01:21:43,530 --> 01:21:46,830 an interview with Glenn Greenwald. And BuzzFeed didn't 1406 01:21:46,860 --> 01:21:49,230 didn't say that it was leaked, or anything, there's an 1407 01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:52,110 interview with the guy, and he's the one that leaked it. And I 1408 01:21:52,110 --> 01:21:56,040 think it's related to what's happening with this movie and 1409 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,630 WikiLeaks and the stance. 1410 01:21:57,690 --> 01:21:59,430 I'm not happy about it, but I don't have the power to 1411 01:21:59,430 --> 01:22:02,280 prosecute them, like Obama was gonna say, right, I'm gonna go 1412 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,980 after the I'm gonna hunt him down and smoke them out. And 1413 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,190 Paulson, George Bush, no. And he, 1414 01:22:08,370 --> 01:22:13,170 by the way, stop that I don't have the power of the blah, 1415 01:22:13,170 --> 01:22:17,670 blah, that whole line. I heard him on another show saying the 1416 01:22:17,670 --> 01:22:21,390 same thing. Delivering that line almost verbatim. So he's 1417 01:22:21,390 --> 01:22:24,570 rehearsed his his stick by I always find annoying by them. I 1418 01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:28,800 think it's worse. I think he's so disinterested in this, that 1419 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,740 he's just rattling off whatever's coming to mind. But 1420 01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:35,700 the kid the guy in this in this, I got to find out who that is a 1421 01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:40,050 T lo young, is good. And every single time he asked a question, 1422 01:22:40,050 --> 01:22:42,600 you got a dumb answer. The next question was the question I 1423 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,700 would have asked, I'm really impressed with this with this 1424 01:22:44,730 --> 01:22:46,050 with our German brother here. 1425 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:47,970 So once it was out there, then we you know, we were sort of in 1426 01:22:47,970 --> 01:22:49,740 a position where you had to kind of tell people where it was at, 1427 01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:52,260 but it's still, you know, we're still in the strategic stage of 1428 01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:54,360 it and figuring out but I think it can be extremely exciting. 1429 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,850 And I think we're going to be producing some really hard 1430 01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:57,810 hitting journalism. Okay, 1431 01:22:57,810 --> 01:23:00,450 so yeah, so of course, what we want to know is what exactly is 1432 01:23:00,450 --> 01:23:02,550 it going to be? How's it going to work? Is this a new model and 1433 01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:05,580 our German I'm going to call him our, our German correspondent, I 1434 01:23:05,580 --> 01:23:09,150 think this guy should be a part of our family. So to get better 1435 01:23:09,150 --> 01:23:10,680 make get his approval for that. But 1436 01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:12,900 what is his he's gonna love it. 1437 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:14,730 Okay, we'll play it play on 1438 01:23:14,730 --> 01:23:18,540 today. What do you want to do? What do you do want it a 1439 01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:18,900 different? 1440 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,110 A lot of a lot of media. I'm one of the reasons why we're really 1441 01:23:22,110 --> 01:23:24,720 excited about working with Pierre is that he said that he 1442 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,560 didn't want to have a top down model of editorial process where 1443 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,470 editors are telling reporters what to do. So we're going to 1444 01:23:31,470 --> 01:23:33,780 develop more of a horizontal model. We'll 1445 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,970 never wait, this, you're having the exact same response I had at 1446 01:23:38,970 --> 01:23:41,700 first and then it dawned on me what's taking place here. So 1447 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,670 bear with that. But if you would listen, this, you're like, This 1448 01:23:44,670 --> 01:23:47,940 is the dumbest idea ever. This is like letting the noodles kid 1449 01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:49,500 run noodles. This is 1450 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:53,820 supporting the work of the journalists, but that it's going 1451 01:23:53,820 --> 01:23:57,000 to be a journalism driven website. We're not we're not 1452 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,550 just trying to fill positions with people. We're trying to 1453 01:23:59,550 --> 01:24:03,300 bring people on board based on a proven track record of great 1454 01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:06,690 journalism, and trying to create a space for them, where they can 1455 01:24:06,690 --> 01:24:09,390 do that journalism without being hindered by bureaucratic 1456 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,220 institutions or processes. 1457 01:24:11,639 --> 01:24:14,579 Now Now what what would you what would your follow up question 1458 01:24:14,579 --> 01:24:18,119 be? Wouldn't you say something like, wow, that sounds like the 1459 01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:19,019 dream job. 1460 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,810 I don't know what my follow up question would be because I 1461 01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:24,300 wouldn't I'm not in the groove with this guy at the moment. But 1462 01:24:24,330 --> 01:24:28,290 I probably asked him, I say does it why doesn't a New York Times 1463 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,690 pretty much do that? They've got a lot of award winning 1464 01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:34,440 journalists. All they have and their editing is like the 1465 01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:37,440 process that you're calling a bureaucratic, you know, whatever 1466 01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,230 it is, he said is the process. It's not it's not right. It's 1467 01:24:40,230 --> 01:24:44,010 not the way it works. I ever worked for a newspaper. I have 1468 01:24:44,010 --> 01:24:44,220 no 1469 01:24:44,220 --> 01:24:48,780 idea. Sheila Ruffin Lund. In Germany, we would say it's like 1470 01:24:48,810 --> 01:24:53,100 the paradise. It is like a journalist paradise. You don't 1471 01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:57,150 have a boss where you have to ask them. If you can write the 1472 01:24:57,150 --> 01:24:59,250 story or can read story this way. 1473 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,950 Right? I don't mean it's like, well, to quote that old CIA 1474 01:25:01,950 --> 01:25:04,590 torture, you know, we got to put on the big boy pants and no, but 1475 01:25:04,590 --> 01:25:05,670 no, but it is like everybody's going 1476 01:25:05,670 --> 01:25:08,820 to what the hell was that non sequitur was that I've never 1477 01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:12,960 heard of that that old CIA said, Yeah, my uncle, he hears it he 1478 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:13,950 often I don't know, Uncle 1479 01:25:16,379 --> 01:25:19,979 be expected to do their thing. And, you know, we want to work 1480 01:25:19,979 --> 01:25:23,039 with people whose whose respect is already there. And it's 1481 01:25:23,039 --> 01:25:26,159 proven and, and want to create a space where they can do their 1482 01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,859 work. And so it is like a journalist paradise. I mean, no, 1483 01:25:28,859 --> 01:25:30,929 we're not naive, there will be there will be challenges. It'll 1484 01:25:30,929 --> 01:25:33,959 be difficult when you're dealing with a model where no one is 1485 01:25:33,959 --> 01:25:36,599 exactly the boss, you have to work out how that's gonna 1486 01:25:36,599 --> 01:25:39,119 happen. But we're trying to we're trying to create teams of 1487 01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:42,749 people who already have shown a proven track record of being 1488 01:25:42,749 --> 01:25:45,089 able to do serious journalism and to do it with on their own 1489 01:25:45,089 --> 01:25:45,569 initiative. 1490 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,290 Okay, so So now I'm like, All right, this this sounds 1491 01:25:49,499 --> 01:25:51,599 this guy. I'm looking at his background. By the way, he's a 1492 01:25:51,779 --> 01:25:55,319 he's a documentarian right now, before that he wrote for 1493 01:25:55,409 --> 01:25:59,459 magazines of the nation is his most recent books written by and 1494 01:25:59,459 --> 01:26:01,649 he's written a lot of books. But this is not the same as working 1495 01:26:01,649 --> 01:26:04,499 in a newspaper cranking out these sorts of the sort of 1496 01:26:04,499 --> 01:26:05,729 things that he's describing. 1497 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,160 Well, I'm and I'm looking at from a business man's 1498 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:14,520 perspective and a media analyst. And I'm thinking, really, you're 1499 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,580 going to, I can burn through $250 million without a boss. 1500 01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:20,700 That'd be pretty easy. Is this pure a pushover? And you know, 1501 01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:24,330 what happens? Here is not a push. No, no, no, because Robert 1502 01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:27,630 was Pierre i But but look out John, they have they have a 1503 01:26:27,630 --> 01:26:31,020 plant now. First, our German colleague is going to ask the 1504 01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:31,410 obvious, 1505 01:26:31,769 --> 01:26:36,929 if one of you guys if you get in trouble, if you if if it's 1506 01:26:36,929 --> 01:26:41,699 proven that you fucked up something like, can they throw 1507 01:26:41,699 --> 01:26:42,179 you out? 1508 01:26:42,779 --> 01:26:45,989 Great question. That's the question. Well, 1509 01:26:46,289 --> 01:26:51,059 kick your ass. Right? See this rise out? 1510 01:26:51,090 --> 01:26:53,940 This is where he loses his guard entirely. That's why it's going 1511 01:26:53,940 --> 01:26:54,360 to come out in the 1512 01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:57,330 policy. We're, you know, we're we're going to elect Glenn is 1513 01:26:57,330 --> 01:27:01,290 going to be the interior minister Glenn Greenwald. And 1514 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,720 he's going to have a secret intelligence services to be 1515 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,160 investigating me and Laura. No. We'll work it out. We'll work it 1516 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,470 out to get too much into the details about this before before 1517 01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:14,070 we get it. But maybe there aren't any details. I'd have to 1518 01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:14,490 kill you. If 1519 01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:17,100 I told you. Oh, that's so funny. 1520 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:18,270 Name of the thing. 1521 01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:21,300 No, no, no, no, no. It hasn't been announced yet. But it 1522 01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:23,880 doesn't, it doesn't translate into Bootsy Craig or whatever. 1523 01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:27,000 So it's not going to be a German German thing that doesn't have a 1524 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,500 German name. Can you confirm that? I 1525 01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:31,020 don't, I don't want to rule out that it's not going to be a 1526 01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:33,540 German name. As I told you there. In the German I 1527 01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:35,820 understand the German language is that there's an incredible 1528 01:27:36,030 --> 01:27:37,170 volume of dye. 1529 01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:41,700 So okay, so here it comes. Now now for the money shot. Now I'm 1530 01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:45,390 thinking so I'm processing this I'm like, Okay, we have this 1531 01:27:45,390 --> 01:27:49,410 Pierre is no dummy. He wants to put you know, although, you 1532 01:27:49,410 --> 01:27:51,990 know, talk is cheap, too. Oh, I'll put my here's my you know, 1533 01:27:52,050 --> 01:27:53,190 I didn't see a 250 1534 01:27:53,850 --> 01:27:57,360 By the way of the $1 billion. That what's the guy that used to 1535 01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:01,890 own a turner? Turner networks? The guy Turner? Yeah, what's his 1536 01:28:01,890 --> 01:28:05,730 first name? I can't remember it. Ted, Ted, Ted Turner, I'm going 1537 01:28:05,730 --> 01:28:09,360 to you after gates started up his operating arm giving a 1538 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,760 billion dollars here and a billion dollars, he gave you 1539 01:28:11,790 --> 01:28:13,530 nothing, he gave nothing. Okay? 1540 01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:17,430 So if you want to if I was to start a news organisation, 1541 01:28:18,060 --> 01:28:22,410 here's what I would do. And it's about and you'll hear this in 1542 01:28:22,410 --> 01:28:30,270 the next clip, I would start a new Wikileaks. And I've already 1543 01:28:30,270 --> 01:28:34,920 got the team. And here's how it works. We sit there we receive 1544 01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:39,810 documents from whistleblowers, we then turn around, we report 1545 01:28:39,810 --> 01:28:45,480 on that but we sell it to all the other publications. So our 1546 01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:50,820 model is in doing the work doing the investigative reporting and 1547 01:28:50,820 --> 01:28:55,470 then quote unquote partnering with New York Times to build 1548 01:28:55,620 --> 01:29:00,840 Lamont The Guardian and we sell our services from our 1549 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,260 whistleblowers which is what we do Glenn Greenwald 1550 01:29:04,260 --> 01:29:06,990 approach this this is his enrich his dream 1551 01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:12,540 key wants to be Julian Assange and I think there if you look, I 1552 01:29:12,540 --> 01:29:16,380 think there has been a structured certainly on 1553 01:29:16,380 --> 01:29:21,360 Greenwald's part, but I think this movie, something happened 1554 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,840 this had to come out now, before someone else got this idea I 1555 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,980 have the feeling that this was quote unquote leaked, because 1556 01:29:28,980 --> 01:29:31,500 Greenwald thought someone else might come up with this genius 1557 01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:33,330 idea. I have some more data points to prove 1558 01:29:33,330 --> 01:29:36,300 my see the movie now because perhaps the movie maybe 1559 01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:40,440 something is too true. He Yeah, it may hint at this model here 1560 01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:40,800 is. 1561 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,190 So here is sky sky Hill talking about actually being WikiLeaks. 1562 01:29:44,190 --> 01:29:45,030 We ultimately 1563 01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:49,170 want this to be a public service. So yeah, I love my 1564 01:29:49,170 --> 01:29:50,760 German brother. Listen, we're going to be looking for 1565 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,330 partnerships around the world and journalists to work with who 1566 01:29:54,330 --> 01:29:55,920 do investigative reporting. I remember 1567 01:29:55,920 --> 01:30:00,000 WikiLeaks saying we do a public service like Is this a new form? 1568 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,210 form of WikiLeaks because WikiLeaks consider themselves 1569 01:30:03,570 --> 01:30:04,620 journalism as well? 1570 01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:07,740 Well, I mean, I think I think Wikileaks did was incredibly 1571 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,630 extraordinary. And that it started a ball in motion, just 1572 01:30:12,630 --> 01:30:16,770 picked up momentum. And, you know, I think a big big part of 1573 01:30:16,770 --> 01:30:20,220 journalism going forward is going to be finding sources of 1574 01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:22,650 independent information, including from whistleblowers 1575 01:30:22,650 --> 01:30:25,500 and people who want to leak data. Okay, I get I think, 1576 01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:28,530 right. Yeah. Listen, y'all are in the public interest to have 1577 01:30:28,530 --> 01:30:30,900 access to we're gonna continue to do that. 1578 01:30:31,050 --> 01:30:35,550 So I'm over at Glenn Greenwald's Twitter. And he tweets something 1579 01:30:35,550 --> 01:30:40,950 like so proud of freedom of the press foundation. So proud of 1580 01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:44,940 Aaron Schwartz. I'm like what? Now to remind you the freedom of 1581 01:30:44,940 --> 01:30:48,330 the press foundation is this little drinking club funded by 1582 01:30:48,330 --> 01:30:51,180 Mother Jones, who I guess didn't want to fund him anymore is when 1583 01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:55,740 they got a new bitch. And this is the club that has Greenwald 1584 01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:59,070 and Poydras is in everyone's in this little club and then the 1585 01:30:59,070 --> 01:31:02,280 freedom of the press. And what have they just done? They have 1586 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:07,050 just released secure drop and security drop is 1587 01:31:07,530 --> 01:31:08,730 the WikiLeaks clone. 1588 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,040 It's a wicked Thank you develop Aaron. 1589 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,400 Let me just throw a couple of thoughts in here so what they 1590 01:31:14,430 --> 01:31:16,560 when they're going on and all we want the best journalists we 1591 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,630 want the best this we want the best award winning I don't know 1592 01:31:18,630 --> 01:31:21,450 what they want, but it seems to me what they want and what 1593 01:31:21,450 --> 01:31:24,630 they're putting together as an intelligence agency. Yes, they 1594 01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:27,720 are looking for analysts now. This is not journalism people if 1595 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,060 anybody thinks you're gonna get Jay Rosen obviously missed this 1596 01:31:30,060 --> 01:31:33,900 by a mile. Yeah. Well, if you're just pulling in a bunch of 1597 01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:37,440 documents that you have to analyse, you're not doing any 1598 01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:41,310 reporting you're doing intelligence analyst. That's 1599 01:31:41,310 --> 01:31:44,040 what you are, you're sitting, ploughing. That's what that's 1600 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,210 what they do. And all these go watch the the series, the 1601 01:31:48,210 --> 01:31:52,140 Rubicon, it's on available on amazon.com is a free video you 1602 01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:55,590 can watch it's a 13 episode series that discusses this in 1603 01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:58,770 great detail. And that's what they're asked with. This is not 1604 01:31:58,770 --> 01:31:59,730 journalism. 1605 01:32:00,210 --> 01:32:01,830 It's a great idea. 1606 01:32:02,730 --> 01:32:06,420 It is a great idea if you grew up with it, but you end up being 1607 01:32:06,420 --> 01:32:07,470 part of the machine. 1608 01:32:07,559 --> 01:32:10,979 Hello. Like they're not already part of the machine. 1609 01:32:11,070 --> 01:32:13,620 Yeah, they're part of the machine. But it was high and 1610 01:32:13,620 --> 01:32:16,170 mighty thing. I don't think Pierre knows they're part of the 1611 01:32:16,170 --> 01:32:20,790 machine. I think he's, he's the he's gonna find out. He's gonna 1612 01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:23,100 and he's gonna say stuff like, you know, this is not what I 1613 01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:23,940 wanted to do. 1614 01:32:25,290 --> 01:32:29,010 Well, I just want to finish up here with the the last bits of 1615 01:32:29,010 --> 01:32:32,070 frustration about this about this leak. This is just another 1616 01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:36,960 40 seconds of of Scahill. And why that I mean, you if I don't 1617 01:32:36,990 --> 01:32:41,010 first of all, securedrop was, that's the new version of Aaron 1618 01:32:41,010 --> 01:32:44,430 Schwartz is dead drops. So they basically took the code from the 1619 01:32:44,430 --> 01:32:48,780 dead kid, and are marketing it as such under the name secure 1620 01:32:48,780 --> 01:32:52,080 drop, which has been checked by Oh, there he is, again, Jacob 1621 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:57,810 Appelbaum did a security audit. Why would you want a guy who's 1622 01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:02,460 from the Navy, to look inside what you're doing? But okay. 1623 01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,880 That's the Tor guy, the Tor network. It's the same people 1624 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,080 over and over and over again. Which I'm fine with, because I 1625 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:11,610 think the idea is genius. 1626 01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:15,240 Though, I'm not going to comment on my on my personal employment, 1627 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,880 such as status, this got leaked yesterday, but I got woken up by 1628 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,150 a reporter calling me at 3am asking me about my new venture 1629 01:33:21,150 --> 01:33:23,910 with Glenn Greenwald. I'm like, Well, what are you talking 1630 01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:26,280 about? I was like, I mean, I know I just you know, now I 1631 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,650 know. I guess what Obama felt like when Snowden leaked all 1632 01:33:28,650 --> 01:33:32,370 those sudden I'm just getting a minor leak in my life, a minor 1633 01:33:32,370 --> 01:33:35,070 leak, to give this guy the hook. I don't want to hear any more 1634 01:33:35,070 --> 01:33:35,370 from him. 1635 01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:39,120 All I'm saying is how can you trust this guy? If he can't even 1636 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,940 keep something secret amongst the three people he's supposed 1637 01:33:41,940 --> 01:33:43,260 to keep stuff secret about? 1638 01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:47,910 No, you can't trust any of these people. And it's not about trust 1639 01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:51,510 anyway. It's about securedrop it's about WikiLeaks is doing 1640 01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:55,020 its job, or WikiLeaks is no no, there are they are doing their 1641 01:33:55,020 --> 01:33:59,700 job. But let's let's take any anything away from them any any 1642 01:33:59,700 --> 01:34:03,360 Mojo they might have. And let's do it in a more commercial way. 1643 01:34:03,540 --> 01:34:05,910 And maybe we can make some serious money Reus money 1644 01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:08,610 Exactly. As a WikiLeaks guys don't know how to make a nickel. 1645 01:34:08,610 --> 01:34:11,730 They got this one guy that guy's one of them. The Embassy locked 1646 01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:12,030 up in 1647 01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:17,970 Iran. So I'm telling you, I'm telling him, this is how this is 1648 01:34:17,970 --> 01:34:23,730 how it went, pear, it's Glenn. I got a great idea. Okay. 1649 01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:26,610 WikiLeaks meets Ebay 1650 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,560 you gotta play this movie pitch. 1651 01:34:32,460 --> 01:34:36,030 Pitch. Well, I bet you they pitch the movie too. We got 1652 01:34:36,060 --> 01:34:38,580 Laura Laura makes the movies we got the whole thing will be 1653 01:34:38,580 --> 01:34:41,370 documented. Everything's going to happen. It's going to be 1654 01:34:41,370 --> 01:34:41,970 great. 1655 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,640 You know, makes movies too. So you have to document train 1656 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:44,940 people. 1657 01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:47,820 So what we need to what we need to be on the lookout for is a 1658 01:34:47,820 --> 01:34:49,290 what is in the movie. I guess you're right. We're gonna have 1659 01:34:49,290 --> 01:34:51,420 to watch the movie. We'll probably wait until it's on 1660 01:34:51,420 --> 01:34:55,830 demand somewhere which may be next week on HBO next week. 1661 01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:59,220 Yeah, we have to. We have to look at that. But I My feeling 1662 01:34:59,220 --> 01:35:03,240 is the Greenwald. pop this out really quickly. And from what 1663 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,900 I've read from Pierre, he was also kind of taken by surprise, 1664 01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:09,960 but I can only see that it was Glenn Greenwald, who, who told 1665 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:15,150 BuzzFeed, I can't see any other orange origin of the story. And 1666 01:35:15,150 --> 01:35:18,840 I That's totally what does that. I mean, that's what I want to 1667 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,820 look at Glenn Greenwald like get he'll do that that's the kind of 1668 01:35:20,820 --> 01:35:25,590 guy he is he will stab people in the back to do to get wherever 1669 01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:27,150 Glenn Greenwald needs to go. He 1670 01:35:27,150 --> 01:35:30,930 has his vision. Yes, he doesn't see it as stabbing anybody in 1671 01:35:30,930 --> 01:35:34,020 the back? No, yeah, he sees it as here's the opportunity for a 1672 01:35:34,020 --> 01:35:37,500 certain kind of promotion that's going to benefit us all. And so 1673 01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:39,870 I'm going to do it. And I'm going to do this and I'm going 1674 01:35:39,870 --> 01:35:42,060 to do that he's the one where he's the what is probably the 1675 01:35:42,060 --> 01:35:45,120 smartest guy in the room. He's probably, you know, smarter than 1676 01:35:45,150 --> 01:35:49,140 Pierre maybe, maybe not technology wise, I doubt it. But 1677 01:35:49,290 --> 01:35:53,010 whatever the case is, he sees he got his vision of this of this 1678 01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:57,000 drop box, kind of what is so much denser. Ah, it's dead drop 1679 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:01,020 now secure drop, secure drop and how you can because he just sold 1680 01:36:01,020 --> 01:36:05,520 that article to Lemond with a French guy. Yeah. And then and 1681 01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:10,170 made probably reasonable money. But then he saw the opportunity 1682 01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:14,250 to make it make this a business in itself, which is to take crap 1683 01:36:14,370 --> 01:36:16,020 and write it up as news. Yeah, 1684 01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:17,070 exactly. 1685 01:36:17,790 --> 01:36:18,480 Not bad. 1686 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,450 I think we're the only ones who figure that out. 1687 01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:25,320 Well, they'll they'll be they'll start to figure it out shortly 1688 01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:28,260 once they start seeing what comes out of this operation. If 1689 01:36:28,260 --> 01:36:30,570 anything, the thing could collapse in the meantime, but I 1690 01:36:30,570 --> 01:36:34,230 think it's a moneymaker. I think it's an I think about WikiLeaks 1691 01:36:34,230 --> 01:36:36,090 doesn't know how to make money with all this stuff. They got 1692 01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:39,600 they have its money in the bank when people drop off at 1693 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,430 WikiLeaks if you want to write it off. Yeah. 1694 01:36:42,210 --> 01:36:44,400 But you're right. It's not necessarily journalism. 1695 01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:49,050 Now it's not journalism at all. It's analyst analysts. It's 1696 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:56,160 intelligence analysts. theme going into me, I can't talk 1697 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,940 analytics. vac voc Vacca Cypher, 1698 01:37:00,330 --> 01:37:03,210 you're never gonna get that I'm never gonna get it. I get it. 1699 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:11,220 Because I wrote it down. vacuous Cypher vacuous. I wrote it just 1700 01:37:11,220 --> 01:37:15,000 basically being one of those analysts that ends up talking 1701 01:37:15,540 --> 01:37:22,860 out of their butts on MSNBC and elsewhere. Okay, well, I think 1702 01:37:22,860 --> 01:37:26,430 we've got that that's it for that. We're done. Earlier, we're 1703 01:37:26,430 --> 01:37:28,620 talking about there's a little thing that's coming up. That's 1704 01:37:28,620 --> 01:37:31,950 kind of interesting. And I would I'm gonna put in the Red Book as 1705 01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:36,570 some of this stuff. But I have two clips when I was going to 1706 01:37:36,570 --> 01:37:40,740 plan the last show. And I've still have it here and it kind 1707 01:37:40,740 --> 01:37:44,970 of introduces the situation play this clip Saudi Arabia and the U 1708 01:37:44,970 --> 01:37:45,510 N. 1709 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,180 Saudi Arabia appeared to reject its newly acquired seat on the 1710 01:37:51,180 --> 01:37:55,380 UN Security Council today. It accused the 15 member body of 1711 01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:59,550 failing to resolve international conflicts like this civil war in 1712 01:37:59,550 --> 01:38:02,940 Syria. Its foreign ministry issued a statement that said 1713 01:38:03,150 --> 01:38:07,170 allowing the ruling regime in Syria to kill its people is 1714 01:38:07,170 --> 01:38:11,370 clear proof and evidence of the UN Security Council's inability 1715 01:38:11,490 --> 01:38:14,760 to perform its duties and shoulder its responsibilities. 1716 01:38:15,060 --> 01:38:18,900 But UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon said he is yet to receive 1717 01:38:18,930 --> 01:38:22,560 official notification of Saudi Arabia's withdrawal. 1718 01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:27,150 Well, the official notification came through. And it was 1719 01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:29,940 interesting and it caught the White House off. Guarneri was 1720 01:38:29,940 --> 01:38:32,370 all in a tizzy over there and I had some other clips on this, 1721 01:38:32,370 --> 01:38:36,930 but I can probably summarise it better. The Saudis have been 1722 01:38:36,930 --> 01:38:40,260 putting help making us to help promote them to the Security 1723 01:38:40,260 --> 01:38:43,710 Council. They've been, as one reporter said, coveting the 1724 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,610 role, right? And so they got it. And then they said, Nah, screw 1725 01:38:47,610 --> 01:38:51,390 we don't want it because it's sucks. Because they're mean. And 1726 01:38:51,390 --> 01:38:53,880 they kind of pointed the finger at us. And now they're, you 1727 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,550 know, bitching about we didn't do this. We didn't do that. And, 1728 01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:59,250 and now all kinds of these analysts are coming out saying, 1729 01:38:59,250 --> 01:39:01,920 Well, you know, we had these two are our best allies in the 1730 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,440 Middle East. We're always Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Egypt 1731 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:07,710 situation fell apart. And the Saudis were irked that we threw 1732 01:39:07,740 --> 01:39:10,740 Mubarak under the bus and all this is going on. So I'm 1733 01:39:10,740 --> 01:39:14,790 thinking what the heck is one thing I think Saudi Arabia is 1734 01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:17,460 now going to be targeted for a takeover so we can steal their 1735 01:39:17,490 --> 01:39:20,610 oil, which is fine, but it's going to cause all kinds of 1736 01:39:20,610 --> 01:39:22,410 repercussions, especially in the area, 1737 01:39:23,009 --> 01:39:26,159 in the region. In the region. 1738 01:39:26,730 --> 01:39:31,770 Yeah. And the region. So I'm thinking who is behind this? 1739 01:39:31,770 --> 01:39:34,530 Because it's not the Russians because the Saudis wanted to get 1740 01:39:34,530 --> 01:39:37,320 rid of Assad and the Russians want to keep them so there's not 1741 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:42,780 them. I believe the Chinese have started to meddle because 1742 01:39:42,780 --> 01:39:45,600 they've been meddling we we saw the places they were building in 1743 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,240 Libya. Yeah. And we you know, they they had a whole town there 1744 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,460 was going up they were and all you know, they got most of 1745 01:39:50,460 --> 01:39:51,420 Africa already. 1746 01:39:51,450 --> 01:39:54,810 Let's put it this way the Chinese are, it's about time 1747 01:39:54,810 --> 01:39:59,820 they did something to stop our insane advance on their crap. 1748 01:40:00,329 --> 01:40:05,159 Yeah. So the Chinese I believe are somehow behind this. And I 1749 01:40:05,159 --> 01:40:07,739 don't have any evidence of this. But it's the only thing that 1750 01:40:07,739 --> 01:40:11,669 makes sense, because they're the ones who probably go did the 1751 01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:15,269 Saudis, you know, to turn on us. And they're now the discussion 1752 01:40:15,269 --> 01:40:18,149 when you hear other other this has been going on on most of the 1753 01:40:18,149 --> 01:40:21,299 public stations. When you hear other discussions, you hear this 1754 01:40:21,299 --> 01:40:24,479 one, too. This is kind of a meme that's going around. Oh, what 1755 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,899 happens if we buy all of our military supplies from the 1756 01:40:27,899 --> 01:40:31,289 United States? What he had, what would happen to us? We're too 1757 01:40:31,289 --> 01:40:34,799 dependent. What would happen to us if the United States pulled 1758 01:40:34,799 --> 01:40:39,569 the plug on spare parts? Now, there's a couple of things to 1759 01:40:39,599 --> 01:40:43,379 think about in this one. The Chinese are the major makers of 1760 01:40:43,379 --> 01:40:44,339 spare parts for 1761 01:40:44,340 --> 01:40:47,430 American products, and we take all their counterfeit parts and 1762 01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:48,750 put them into our aeroplanes. Yeah, 1763 01:40:48,780 --> 01:40:52,260 the parts are no good. By the way, most of them are off spec. 1764 01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:56,280 Yeah. But that doesn't matter. But because they can sell these 1765 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,460 things. We buy off spec stuff all the time, and the wings fall 1766 01:40:59,460 --> 01:41:04,650 off. People don't realise how important specs are for bolts. 1767 01:41:05,340 --> 01:41:09,990 You'd be amazed. Yeah, it's actually true. Yeah, so the 1768 01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:12,750 Chinese just made the cheap crap. I think the Chinese are 1769 01:41:12,750 --> 01:41:16,770 horning in on on the on the defence stuff. I think they're 1770 01:41:16,770 --> 01:41:19,290 gonna first start with the parts. They're gonna come and 1771 01:41:19,290 --> 01:41:21,300 then deal we're gonna start, we already started to see China. 1772 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:22,530 Chinese jets. 1773 01:41:22,559 --> 01:41:24,899 Hold on, hold on. Let me play this back what you're saying. 1774 01:41:25,499 --> 01:41:32,639 You're saying that our tool tool is military stuff, military 1775 01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:35,789 industrial complex, but mainly stuff that we sell to the to our 1776 01:41:35,789 --> 01:41:41,009 partners, like the Saudis. And we would say, hey, Saudis, if 1777 01:41:41,009 --> 01:41:45,599 you don't shut up, don't drive. If you don't shut up, we're 1778 01:41:45,599 --> 01:41:47,789 going to stop the supply of parts and your stuffs going to 1779 01:41:47,789 --> 01:41:50,909 fall apart. But maybe we've said that in so many words, and the 1780 01:41:50,909 --> 01:41:56,219 Chinese are saying, Hey, want some parts. And by the way, we 1781 01:41:56,219 --> 01:41:59,129 can get you some brand new stuff, look at this shiny plane 1782 01:41:59,129 --> 01:41:59,909 over here. 1783 01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:05,580 So I think exactly that it's going to, we're gonna start to 1784 01:42:05,580 --> 01:42:08,250 see a slow shift that we have to do is we're gonna get a hold of 1785 01:42:08,250 --> 01:42:13,320 our contacts over there on our economic hitmen, folks, and try 1786 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,690 to see what the connection if there's any connection between 1787 01:42:15,690 --> 01:42:20,340 China and Saudi Arabia that's worth noting? Well, because 1788 01:42:20,340 --> 01:42:22,440 they're there. Bailey did are definitely not on the Russian 1789 01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:24,600 side on this deal. The Russians have got nothing to do with the 1790 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,010 Saudi decision to jump the Security Council. And it's got 1791 01:42:29,010 --> 01:42:31,920 nothing to do with us. So it's got to be somebody else. And who 1792 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,260 else would there's only three players in the Chinese of the 1793 01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:36,390 third player, and there's got to be them doing something. They're 1794 01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:37,260 sneaking around. 1795 01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:41,190 Interesting analysis. 1796 01:42:41,550 --> 01:42:42,690 Yeah, we'll see what happens. 1797 01:42:42,780 --> 01:42:46,380 I agree that the White House was completely caught off guard 1798 01:42:46,380 --> 01:42:48,840 about this. And I will, I will say the first thing I thought 1799 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:53,970 was more Russian crap. But this makes more sense. Yeah. I like 1800 01:42:53,970 --> 01:42:54,120 it. 1801 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,740 A lot. Yeah, I was trying to put a Russian thing in there. And I 1802 01:42:58,740 --> 01:43:01,200 couldn't do it says that the Russians, you know, could use 1803 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,860 another no vote on the Security Council. I don't I just don't 1804 01:43:04,860 --> 01:43:07,770 understand how the Chinese managed to do this. But they 1805 01:43:07,770 --> 01:43:10,920 did. There's an analysis clip, you went up, I want to play of 1806 01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,800 this Saudi relationship, which kind of outlines some of this 1807 01:43:13,830 --> 01:43:14,220 random, and 1808 01:43:14,220 --> 01:43:16,830 you were talking about your long experience there many this goes? 1809 01:43:17,130 --> 01:43:20,700 So this is a deep relationship. I mean, explain it put it put 1810 01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:24,150 the president into that larger context. How important is this 1811 01:43:24,150 --> 01:43:25,410 relationship has been 1812 01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:28,860 this relationship has been a cornerstone of the American 1813 01:43:28,860 --> 01:43:32,610 relations relations in the region for 50 years, as has the 1814 01:43:32,610 --> 01:43:35,970 relationship with Egypt since the peace treaty. We have both 1815 01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:38,820 those countries, the future of that relationship is in question 1816 01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:41,340 now from the policies we're undertaking. And so I think the 1817 01:43:41,340 --> 01:43:44,790 United States is facing the potential of serious changes in 1818 01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:47,700 the balance of forces in the region, because our relationship 1819 01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:50,220 is changing with the two states that are most important to us, 1820 01:43:50,250 --> 01:43:53,070 which has which has potential in what kind of areas all kinds of 1821 01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:53,460 areas 1822 01:43:53,490 --> 01:43:57,270 across the region. Because our relationship with Saudi Arabia 1823 01:43:57,270 --> 01:44:00,360 and Egypt, we have been the dominant force for the last 50 1824 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,330 years within the Arab context. There has been no rivals, the 1825 01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:06,360 Soviet Union is gone. Russia is there, but no one has been able 1826 01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,360 to rival us. If these relationships were to change, 1827 01:44:09,450 --> 01:44:11,910 the American role in the region would be reduced. We're still 1828 01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:14,130 the world's most important power. We still will be 1829 01:44:14,130 --> 01:44:16,710 important there. But our position will be different. But 1830 01:44:16,710 --> 01:44:19,050 one part of that relationship clearly is military. You were 1831 01:44:19,050 --> 01:44:21,750 able to talk to some US official military officials 1832 01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:25,380 or former military officials. It's been the crucial military 1833 01:44:25,380 --> 01:44:27,990 relationship along with the US relationship with Moses lady. 1834 01:44:28,530 --> 01:44:31,860 This is the woman that used to be one of the anchors on the 1835 01:44:31,860 --> 01:44:35,280 News Hour, and now they shoved her out into the field. And 1836 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,220 she's become a correspondent it's the it's MARGARET WARNER 1837 01:44:38,220 --> 01:44:40,470 that would kind of separate you know, the woman with the eyes to 1838 01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:45,240 close your eyes or to close that. So the Gates Foundation 1839 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,840 said, you know, she's not presentable as a get her off. 1840 01:44:49,500 --> 01:44:53,370 And that's exactly what happened. Bill went, 1841 01:44:54,060 --> 01:44:58,230 she doesn't look hot. Get her off. Yeah, that's how it goes. 1842 01:44:58,230 --> 01:44:58,620 People 1843 01:44:59,070 --> 01:45:02,550 in the region says The early 50s The US is the major arms 1844 01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:05,670 supplier to Saudi Arabia. It has a commitment to protect the 1845 01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:09,570 kingdom, the kingdom has always regarded that as as a bulwark of 1846 01:45:09,570 --> 01:45:15,270 their, of their position there. So for Saudi Arabia, the US 1847 01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:19,320 still maintains despite and a very ostentatious withdrawal of 1848 01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:23,160 US forces after the first Gulf War, still maintains a presence 1849 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:28,050 there to train and equip and, and manage the weaponry that we 1850 01:45:28,050 --> 01:45:29,400 sell to Saudi Arabia. 1851 01:45:29,730 --> 01:45:32,550 That's the we read that all the time on the show where there's 1852 01:45:32,550 --> 01:45:38,010 another two $3 billion sale, and it's like $1 million of, of 1853 01:45:38,010 --> 01:45:44,430 needles and then $1.9 billion other. Yeah, that's what that is 1854 01:45:44,430 --> 01:45:44,640 told. 1855 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,970 There's a two star general there that the US helps train the 1856 01:45:48,690 --> 01:45:52,770 Saudi National Guard, one job of that, which is to protect the 1857 01:45:52,770 --> 01:45:57,360 Saudi royal family, on the other hand, so it's hard to know where 1858 01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,390 they would go for all of this weaponry. On the other hand, to 1859 01:46:00,390 --> 01:46:02,400 the US, it's also very important. They were an 1860 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,310 important ally in the first Gulf War, the role was a little 1861 01:46:05,310 --> 01:46:09,780 murkier in the second Gulf, second Iraq war, they publicly 1862 01:46:10,260 --> 01:46:13,470 took a neutral stance, but there have been reports that they were 1863 01:46:13,470 --> 01:46:17,490 helpful in that there have been reports unconfirmed, of secret 1864 01:46:17,490 --> 01:46:21,480 US drone bases in Saudi Arabia more recently, because the US 1865 01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:24,750 and Saudi Arabia still share the goal of combating jihadi 1866 01:46:24,750 --> 01:46:29,130 terrorism so it's hard to see how that military relationship 1867 01:46:29,130 --> 01:46:32,850 gets extricated. But if the political bonds do then, you 1868 01:46:32,850 --> 01:46:33,900 know, who knows? 1869 01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:38,760 Did you say he hottie I don't know maybe sound like jihadi 1870 01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:45,300 sounds like he Hi. Yeah. Okay. Well, that'd be very interesting 1871 01:46:45,300 --> 01:46:45,840 to watch. 1872 01:46:47,970 --> 01:46:51,570 Well, the Yeah, the the kind of the interesting thing about 1873 01:46:51,570 --> 01:46:58,680 there's there was a number of aspects to that, but I think I 1874 01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,170 think you're on there's a couple of things going on. I think that 1875 01:47:01,170 --> 01:47:04,260 we'll we'll follow up on this and it will find that there's a 1876 01:47:07,650 --> 01:47:10,800 there's something up and it's the only explanation is the 1877 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:11,400 Chinese. 1878 01:47:12,299 --> 01:47:13,949 It's always the Chinese 1879 01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:17,670 guys are their babies big country. Got lots of people. 1880 01:47:18,389 --> 01:47:26,249 Yeah, yeah. All right. Big props to you, John C. Dvorak. As we 1881 01:47:26,249 --> 01:47:32,219 were talking about the fires in Australia. And, in fact, I just 1882 01:47:32,219 --> 01:47:37,769 approve. I pulled the clip that you played from false Koen van 1883 01:47:37,769 --> 01:47:38,219 comm 1884 01:47:38,490 --> 01:47:40,830 that van cat event Rankin 1885 01:47:41,639 --> 01:47:44,459 cars bang. And here it is. 1886 01:47:44,490 --> 01:47:47,640 In Australia, the country's military says it's investigating 1887 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:51,120 whether major bushfires are linked to an explosives training 1888 01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,250 exercise on its land. Well, and 1889 01:47:53,250 --> 01:47:57,720 John and not only did you put us on the path, you are completely 1890 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,050 right. Now I want to remind everybody that these bushfires 1891 01:48:01,050 --> 01:48:06,330 are this started early. It's October. So and this is the 1892 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,780 Australia goes into its summer. And what was weird about this is 1893 01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:13,530 this the first time the fires were all near Sydney, and here 1894 01:48:13,530 --> 01:48:18,630 is the mayor of the of the region. Whenever you don't know 1895 01:48:18,630 --> 01:48:20,760 what you're talking about, just say the region. That's how we do 1896 01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:24,540 it news, talking about how this actually was started by the 1897 01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:24,990 military. 1898 01:48:25,559 --> 01:48:29,789 Nick Greenhill, a few moments ago, the RFS put out a statement 1899 01:48:29,789 --> 01:48:33,959 confirming that the state mine fire near lisco was started as a 1900 01:48:33,959 --> 01:48:37,619 result of live ordnance exercises on Moran guru army 1901 01:48:37,619 --> 01:48:41,819 range, the fire started on Wednesday. There were no total 1902 01:48:41,819 --> 01:48:45,119 fire bans at the time, the statement points out in view of 1903 01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:48,089 what you've just said about what your community's been through 1904 01:48:48,089 --> 01:48:50,579 and the efforts of the firefighters over the past week. 1905 01:48:50,879 --> 01:48:56,009 How do you feel about that revelation? Look, not happy. 1906 01:48:58,169 --> 01:48:58,559 Okay, 1907 01:48:59,130 --> 01:49:02,520 so he's not happy, but I have not happy now. But of course, 1908 01:49:02,670 --> 01:49:06,240 that didn't stop the usual suspects before this news came 1909 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,600 out. And by the way, this will be the only media programme that 1910 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:14,760 will call these eight holes on it. Let's see. Al Gore. Mr. 1911 01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:14,940 Gore, 1912 01:49:14,940 --> 01:49:17,250 we're also having something of a national debate about the 1913 01:49:17,250 --> 01:49:20,070 connection between climate change and bushfires. And the 1914 01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:23,490 Australian Prime Minister has said in the last couple of hours 1915 01:49:23,490 --> 01:49:26,460 that bushfires are a function of life in Australia, and nothing 1916 01:49:26,460 --> 01:49:29,100 to do with climate change. What do you make of those remarks? 1917 01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:35,640 Well, it's not my place to get involved in your politics. But 1918 01:49:38,100 --> 01:49:43,500 it reminds me of politicians here in the United States, who 1919 01:49:43,530 --> 01:49:47,730 got a lot of support from the tobacco companies and who argued 1920 01:49:48,060 --> 01:49:48,930 to the public 1921 01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:52,770 out it wasn't started by global warming and that there was 1922 01:49:52,770 --> 01:49:53,520 absolutely 1923 01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:58,800 no connection between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer and 1924 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:03,720 for 40 years So the tobacco companies were able to douchebag 1925 01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:07,260 Oh yeah. Don't worry to persuade pliant politicians within their 1926 01:50:07,260 --> 01:50:14,280 grip to public what they wanted to them to tell them. And for 40 1927 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:18,810 years, the tragedy continued tragic. bushfires can occur 1928 01:50:18,810 --> 01:50:23,670 naturally and do. But the science shows clear that when 1929 01:50:23,670 --> 01:50:27,300 the temperature goes up, and when the vegetation and soils 1930 01:50:27,300 --> 01:50:31,950 dry out, then wildfires become more pervasive and more 1931 01:50:31,950 --> 01:50:35,220 dangerous. That's not me saying it. That's what the scientific 1932 01:50:35,220 --> 01:50:39,150 community says. Look it up. It's science. That's right. 1933 01:50:41,460 --> 01:50:45,540 So of course, he looks kind of stupid in hindsight, but not as 1934 01:50:45,540 --> 01:50:50,460 stupid as both Christiana Amanpour Well, I used to like a 1935 01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:53,850 lot as a journalist. And then she went to you go to ABC and 1936 01:50:53,850 --> 01:50:55,800 then she went back to CNN and something happened 1937 01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,890 while she went out she was for a while she was on the 60 minute 1938 01:50:58,890 --> 01:51:02,940 show she showed that she really couldn't handle that level. 1939 01:51:02,970 --> 01:51:06,690 I think what happened is you're right they saw that she really 1940 01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:14,520 she had a whole thing going on, you know the the Arab vibe and 1941 01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,580 you know, she No, no, she has she had something going on and 1942 01:51:17,580 --> 01:51:18,660 it just fell apart on 1943 01:51:18,660 --> 01:51:20,910 her because she didn't really have it. 1944 01:51:21,390 --> 01:51:24,450 Shops Yeah, well, or maybe just the warranty expired on 1945 01:51:24,450 --> 01:51:29,400 something weird. So she is with a new puppet on the scene who 1946 01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,890 was who was now out there with a new climate change 1947 01:51:31,890 --> 01:51:38,310 communication. UN climate chief Christiana? Fig wetness. I think 1948 01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:41,130 that's how you pronounce your name. And have you seen this 1949 01:51:41,130 --> 01:51:41,460 woman? 1950 01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,480 No, she is very speller. Last name 1951 01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:52,860 I think it's f i g u e r e. S let me see Christiana be Gu 1952 01:51:52,860 --> 01:51:56,700 arrest. UN climate chief. She's kind of like a you know, like an 1953 01:51:56,700 --> 01:52:03,900 IMF. Woman. What's her name? Come on. Your daughter. 1954 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:09,240 Yeah. She got the shorthand or is this Jean Christophe Figaro? 1955 01:52:09,480 --> 01:52:12,450 No, this is Karen Christiana Figaro at us. 1956 01:52:12,990 --> 01:52:16,710 Glarus? It's a figure row at a me She is the 1957 01:52:16,710 --> 01:52:20,820 executive secretary of the United Nations Framework 1958 01:52:20,820 --> 01:52:25,530 Convention on Climate Change also known as the UNFCCC 1959 01:52:28,050 --> 01:52:28,800 finder, 1960 01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:34,410 Christiana for gratis if you google it that name Christiana. 1961 01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:38,280 Nothing are you you're bringing in, aren't you? No, I'm 1962 01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,670 not bringing it I don't mean it. Sometimes after midnight, maybe. 1963 01:52:42,060 --> 01:52:42,810 Oh. 1964 01:52:45,150 --> 01:52:49,440 Alright, so you've got a picture now you see her? I have she's a 1965 01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:51,000 total she's the only one 1966 01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,520 I got Christian figure eight. What do you Oh, there she is she 1967 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,160 the woman with the scarf. She's the one it looks like she should 1968 01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,670 be an upper class twit. That one or she the wall? No. There's 1969 01:52:59,670 --> 01:53:01,650 another one is a bunch of these people. Oh, she's 1970 01:53:02,970 --> 01:53:06,000 the same woman. The one with a blue shirt and the scarf like a 1971 01:53:06,210 --> 01:53:07,620 like a KLM. Stewardess? 1972 01:53:07,890 --> 01:53:10,650 Yeah, she looks like a stewardess. But then if you Oh, 1973 01:53:10,770 --> 01:53:13,140 and then she looks like an old woman. And then she has a lot of 1974 01:53:13,140 --> 01:53:14,700 looks. She's got she's good for TV. 1975 01:53:14,970 --> 01:53:20,160 She's great for TV. She has professional experience. See 1976 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:24,450 Minister counsellor at the Embassy of Costa Rica in Bonn in 1977 01:53:24,450 --> 01:53:27,390 Germany, very good. directed the work of all departments of the 1978 01:53:27,390 --> 01:53:30,150 embassy. Okay, return to code. She's from Costa Rica. Actually. 1979 01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,670 She was named director of international cooperation in the 1980 01:53:32,670 --> 01:53:36,870 Ministry of Planning of God would a dream job and the 1981 01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:41,130 Ministry of Planning. We're gonna plan something. She and 1982 01:53:41,130 --> 01:53:43,800 her husband moved to DC. I wonder what her husband does? 1983 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:48,000 Don't see here. He must be doing something. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, 1984 01:53:48,060 --> 01:53:50,910 so now she's a muckety muck and she's out there. And she's 1985 01:53:50,910 --> 01:53:55,170 promoting climate change what we need to do about it. And she and 1986 01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,710 Christiana on poor got sucked into the bushfires, fires 1987 01:53:58,710 --> 01:54:01,830 but also the politics behind trying to figure out climate 1988 01:54:01,830 --> 01:54:06,450 change. First and foremost, is there a link between climate and 1989 01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:08,010 wildfires brush fires? 1990 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,930 Oh, well, John, as a as Undersecretary of the United 1991 01:54:12,930 --> 01:54:16,920 Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, what would your 1992 01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,290 answer be? We're all gonna die. 1993 01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:25,650 Yes, there is absolutely. Now the MO The World Meteorological 1994 01:54:25,650 --> 01:54:29,370 organisation has not established the direct link between this 1995 01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,320 wildfire and climate change yet. 1996 01:54:31,890 --> 01:54:35,310 Okay. Not yet, yet. In fact, they didn't because it was set 1997 01:54:35,310 --> 01:54:36,600 up by the military. However, what is 1998 01:54:36,630 --> 01:54:44,430 absolutely clear, is the science is telling us that there are 1999 01:54:44,430 --> 01:54:49,290 increasing heat waves in Asia, Europe and Australia, that these 2000 01:54:49,290 --> 01:54:52,050 will continue that they will continue in their intensity and 2001 01:54:52,050 --> 01:54:55,200 in their frequency. So what we've just seen on the screen is 2002 01:54:55,230 --> 01:55:00,000 an example of what we may be looking at unless we take 2003 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,340 Excellent. Ah, 2004 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,510 okay rigorous action, somebody money with Cap and Trade well, 2005 01:55:07,170 --> 01:55:10,530 so it's very nice that she's on, I appreciate her being on the 2006 01:55:10,530 --> 01:55:15,660 show, because she is giving us the new talking point. And the 2007 01:55:15,660 --> 01:55:19,620 talking point is, well, of course, we need to price carbon, 2008 01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,990 right? Because if we then price it, then we can trade it. And 2009 01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:23,880 then we can do all these all these. It's a financial 2010 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,850 instrument. And it's just an it's another way of printing 2011 01:55:26,850 --> 01:55:30,150 money, essentially, here's this thing. I think that's actually 2012 01:55:30,150 --> 01:55:33,570 correct. Here's the thing, we all exhale it, but only certain 2013 01:55:33,570 --> 01:55:38,160 people get to count it, and it's going to have a price on it. And 2014 01:55:38,700 --> 01:55:41,250 that will be a commodity that you can trade. And whenever 2015 01:55:41,250 --> 01:55:44,190 there's trading, just look at the stock market today. There's 2016 01:55:44,220 --> 01:55:47,370 billions, if not trillions of money of monies to be made. We 2017 01:55:47,370 --> 01:55:47,880 need more 2018 01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,640 vehicles need this. And another, that would be the way you'd say 2019 01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,970 it. You don't have enough trading vehicles. And this one's 2020 01:55:53,970 --> 01:55:55,020 a gem. This 2021 01:55:55,050 --> 01:55:57,600 Thank you, John. Yeah, this is why we do the show together. 2022 01:55:58,140 --> 01:56:03,840 It's another trading vehicle. And the meme is pure already 2023 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,270 praying the price for climate change. 2024 01:56:06,330 --> 01:56:09,270 You're saying though, by not having the carbon tax, it could 2025 01:56:09,270 --> 01:56:10,710 have the same effect on people 2026 01:56:10,890 --> 01:56:14,100 or what? Because the math is we are already as you have just 2027 01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:17,100 pointed out, we are really already paying the price of 2028 01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:17,550 carbon. 2029 01:56:17,850 --> 01:56:20,790 Okay, so here's the idea. We're paying the militia with paying 2030 01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:22,920 the price. What do we need to give a shit? Well listen to what 2031 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,500 she's already paying the price. Just listen, just listen 2032 01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:25,980 closely. 2033 01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,470 We're paying the price with wildfires. We're paying the 2034 01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:32,190 price for droughts, we're playing the the the price with 2035 01:56:32,250 --> 01:56:35,250 so many other disturbances to the hydrological cycle that 2036 01:56:35,250 --> 01:56:39,870 disturbances to the hydrological cycle. Okay, wait, wait, wait 2037 01:56:39,870 --> 01:56:43,260 for it, it is all the price that we're paying. So what we need to 2038 01:56:43,260 --> 01:56:46,410 do is put a price on carbon so that we don't have to continue 2039 01:56:46,410 --> 01:56:47,730 to pay the price of carbon. 2040 01:56:48,060 --> 01:56:49,230 Did you hear what she just said? 2041 01:56:50,610 --> 01:56:53,850 It was my favourite that again, she's just crazy what she says 2042 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:57,270 we need to put a price on carbon. So we don't need to pay 2043 01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:58,230 the price of carbon 2044 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,430 on carbon so that we don't have to continue to pay the price of 2045 01:57:02,430 --> 01:57:06,480 carbon. Wow, that's good. And that is all the price that we're 2046 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,530 paying to talk about, what we need to do is put a price on 2047 01:57:10,530 --> 01:57:13,080 carbon so that we don't have to continue to pay the price of 2048 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:16,620 carbon. And in fact, what you have just seen on the screen is 2049 01:57:16,620 --> 01:57:20,790 one scenario, Christiane and it is a scenario that we would walk 2050 01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:24,150 toward, unless we take, as I say, vigorous action. But there 2051 01:57:24,150 --> 01:57:25,740 is another scenario. And this 2052 01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:30,870 scenario she's pointing to is the is a big, huge fire. Just 2053 01:57:30,870 --> 01:57:33,300 Sodom and Gomorrah on the screen of fire, 2054 01:57:33,719 --> 01:57:38,789 what we have seen are just introductions to the doom and 2055 01:57:38,789 --> 01:57:41,699 gloom, doom and gloom facing. But that's not the only 2056 01:57:41,699 --> 01:57:42,029 scenario. 2057 01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:46,500 It's just an introduction, this fire you see, that's just an 2058 01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:49,230 introduction. Wait until you meet Satan, 2059 01:57:49,410 --> 01:57:53,550 we could as humankind, we could take vigorous action, and we 2060 01:57:53,550 --> 01:57:56,340 could have a very, very different scenario. That's a 2061 01:57:56,340 --> 01:57:58,440 scenario that is worth examining. Well, 2062 01:57:58,530 --> 01:58:03,090 oh. And then I'll wind it up with a, she has a phrase here, 2063 01:58:03,090 --> 01:58:07,200 which two phrases actually. And I Googled this, and I couldn't 2064 01:58:07,230 --> 01:58:09,000 really find what she's talking about. 2065 01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:13,350 But what about then the trying to convince people that this is 2066 01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:16,440 something that you actually have to tackle quickly before it 2067 01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,890 becomes irreversible? What is the timeline that we as 2068 01:58:20,250 --> 01:58:21,180 reversals for 2069 01:58:21,180 --> 01:58:23,130 the last decade, according to these people? 2070 01:58:23,429 --> 01:58:24,809 How much time do we have John? 2071 01:58:26,130 --> 01:58:28,110 It's too late. Let's just give up. 2072 01:58:29,130 --> 01:58:30,810 Before this becomes irreversible, 2073 01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:35,010 we have very little time very little, very little. 2074 01:58:36,090 --> 01:58:39,150 In fact, what would you look at the time, gotta go, 2075 01:58:39,180 --> 01:58:43,290 the important thing is that we still have time, although, in as 2076 01:58:43,290 --> 01:58:47,670 much as we delay, we are closing the window in and on and on, on 2077 01:58:47,670 --> 01:58:51,480 ourselves. But we do have time, what we know is that we have to 2078 01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,990 reach global peaking, that means we have to get to the maximum 2079 01:58:55,230 --> 01:58:55,560 current 2080 01:58:55,710 --> 01:59:01,020 global peaking. Now, tell me if you can find global peaking and 2081 01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:02,040 then this next raise, 2082 01:59:02,580 --> 01:59:04,950 the trajectory of emissions is still going up. We're still 2083 01:59:04,950 --> 01:59:08,430 rising. So we have to get to the global peaking point this decade 2084 01:59:08,610 --> 01:59:12,060 and then begin our trajectory down as opposed to up which is 2085 01:59:12,060 --> 01:59:16,200 where we are and we have to get to zero net emissions, zero net 2086 01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,050 emissions non zero emissions, but zero net emissions. Oh, they 2087 01:59:19,050 --> 01:59:19,410 change 2088 01:59:19,410 --> 01:59:20,640 the oil Bill Gates meme 2089 01:59:20,670 --> 01:59:25,170 zero net emission. You can Google this all you want. I 2090 01:59:25,170 --> 01:59:31,230 can't find a straight answer on zero net emissions and global 2091 01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:33,570 peaking. Global 2092 01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:37,020 peaking What is this was some of that they're gonna they're gonna 2093 01:59:37,020 --> 01:59:39,300 make it up as they go along. This would be like Peak Oil. 2094 01:59:39,450 --> 01:59:45,240 Okay, so her husband is Conrad von Ritter. Heil World Bank. 2095 01:59:46,050 --> 01:59:49,410 Aha. Oh, no. 2096 01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:54,390 Now let me read this. From a I'm going to read you something from 2097 01:59:54,660 --> 01:59:55,230 this. 2098 01:59:55,349 --> 01:59:59,519 Wait a minute, hold on a second. You're telling me that the lady 2099 01:59:59,639 --> 02:00:07,019 who was out there pushing the next financial vehicle is 2100 02:00:07,019 --> 02:00:11,729 married to a guy who works Is he big at the bank? 2101 02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:16,020 I'm gonna as I can't tell yet, but he's at the bank and he's 2102 02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:19,440 sitting in is this is from 2007 when they were worried sick 2103 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,120 because it was near the end then this was an event at a meeting 2104 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,910 called the earth negotiations bulletin. And that's where it's 2105 02:00:26,910 --> 02:00:30,240 published a special report on the selected site events of the 2106 02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:34,590 26 sessions of the subsidiary bodies, SB 26, of the United 2107 02:00:34,590 --> 02:00:37,980 Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. So he's in on 2108 02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:41,310 this deal, and here's what he says, when they're doing this 2109 02:00:41,310 --> 02:00:43,830 synopsis of the meeting of a bunch of guys sitting a bunch of 2110 02:00:43,830 --> 02:00:49,140 12345678 guys on the Dyess Conrad von Ritter World Bank 2111 02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:54,300 said that in a response to CDM barriers, and CDM barriers, I 2112 02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:57,060 don't know what that means. I'm gonna look it up. I'm talking, 2113 02:00:57,150 --> 02:00:59,910 but it's got some to do with Africa, the World Bank developed 2114 02:00:59,910 --> 02:01:05,670 a carbon finance assistance probe. Africa, with the support 2115 02:01:05,670 --> 02:01:10,950 of a number of bilateral donors, noted that the programme focuses 2116 02:01:10,950 --> 02:01:15,030 on overcoming barriers providing institutional capacity. A lot of 2117 02:01:15,030 --> 02:01:15,750 this is both 2118 02:01:15,810 --> 02:01:19,590 Oh CDM John, Clean Development mechanisms. 2119 02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:24,630 Okay, got it. Engaging finance and private sector 2120 02:01:24,630 --> 02:01:30,120 participation. So they're trying to Buffalo the Africans into 2121 02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:32,370 buying in on all this because they're still burning, like 2122 02:01:32,370 --> 02:01:35,340 stuffing the, you know, burning pieces of wood in their houses. 2123 02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:39,330 Interesting. Now, I'm going to look into this a little more 2124 02:01:39,330 --> 02:01:39,990 this group, 2125 02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:43,830 I just like to say something because we get a lot of flack 2126 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,650 that we are anti science. 2127 02:01:46,770 --> 02:01:49,560 Oh, we're not your science. We're Republicans. I was 2128 02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,470 actually a chemist, I'm actually trained as a scientist. And I 2129 02:01:52,590 --> 02:01:55,560 was also an inspector for the air pollution district. I'm 2130 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,320 actually trained. I'm a I'm actually a scientist, I've got 2131 02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:02,220 to, you know, I took it in college. I did it for a living. 2132 02:02:02,370 --> 02:02:05,520 These people aren't, does say this about us. They're just, 2133 02:02:05,790 --> 02:02:09,510 they're a bunch of guys who get degrees in English. So can I buy 2134 02:02:09,510 --> 02:02:12,480 anything that'll hook line and sinker, they soak it up? I just 2135 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:12,660 want to 2136 02:02:12,660 --> 02:02:16,530 understand, you were trained as a chemist, you studied chemistry 2137 02:02:16,530 --> 02:02:19,920 in college. You are an air pollutions inspector for the 2138 02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:21,750 People's Republic of California. 2139 02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:27,300 I was also a chemist per se and analytic chemistry, union oil 2140 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:33,660 and analytic chemists for union oil. It makes total sense that 2141 02:02:33,660 --> 02:02:38,700 you are you're on the payroll still. Clearly, you are still on 2142 02:02:38,700 --> 02:02:41,580 the US. Does union oil still exist? Who is union oil 2143 02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:46,590 it now it's Unocal better? It was a shame that it was a great 2144 02:02:46,590 --> 02:02:51,270 company. But i i I've said this before on the show a number of 2145 02:02:51,270 --> 02:02:53,970 years ago, I'll say it again. The oil companies they would 2146 02:02:53,970 --> 02:02:56,220 lecture us every so often do you have a big meeting and they'd 2147 02:02:56,220 --> 02:02:59,340 show us all the slides about why we had to go to unleaded 2148 02:02:59,340 --> 02:03:03,750 gasoline This was during that era. And they they were the oil 2149 02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:06,450 companies, at least from what I could tell unless there were 2150 02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,150 somebody in the back room saying laughing to themselves. They 2151 02:03:09,150 --> 02:03:14,250 were all in on the peak oil idea. 100% in 2152 02:03:15,180 --> 02:03:20,460 so I have read the IPCC reports, we have deconstructed some of 2153 02:03:20,460 --> 02:03:24,630 that on the show where possible, the science is not in these are 2154 02:03:24,630 --> 02:03:29,550 models, the models have been proven wrong to date, the n n 2155 02:03:29,580 --> 02:03:32,370 all that is said is oh well, you know, we got better models. Now. 2156 02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:34,860 Those are computers from five years ago. Now we have new 2157 02:03:34,860 --> 02:03:39,210 computers. So so far, the models have been wrong. This is all 2158 02:03:39,210 --> 02:03:42,750 predictive. This is not science. This is computer predictive 2159 02:03:42,750 --> 02:03:46,500 models. The same models that have predicted many other 2160 02:03:46,530 --> 02:03:50,250 interesting things such as where the volcanic ash would be, oh, 2161 02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,280 boy, the skies over Europe were never so blue. It was beautiful. 2162 02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:57,720 But that was a botch what we're seeing 2163 02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:01,170 and what we're pointing out and I'm all for keeping the world 2164 02:04:01,170 --> 02:04:04,800 clean. And of course, I want nuclear. I'm the guy that Oh, 2165 02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,560 I'm sorry. That's all going to kill us with radiation. Get your 2166 02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:10,140 iodine everybody there in California. You're all gonna get 2167 02:04:10,140 --> 02:04:12,780 John Jager iodine cuz you're gonna die. You're gonna die. The 2168 02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:17,880 cloud is coming. I've seen it. I've seen it on the web. What we 2169 02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:21,720 take offence, literally offence to is this this financial 2170 02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:25,230 vehicle that had they've been trying to create Al Gore has 2171 02:04:25,230 --> 02:04:29,100 started this he had the carbon exchange, he was a co investor 2172 02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:32,580 in the carbon exchange. That all got thwarted because things just 2173 02:04:32,580 --> 02:04:38,520 didn't work out. He continues to try. I'm all for a cleaner 2174 02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:46,800 world. But the the co2 emission, taking that and turning it into 2175 02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:52,440 a financial vehicle. When there's little proof of what 2176 02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:55,290 it's really doing, just supposition and predictive 2177 02:04:55,290 --> 02:04:59,040 models. I can't get on board with that. I just can't 2178 02:04:59,460 --> 02:05:02,160 you know, it's fun. Honey is that the same people? I don't 2179 02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:04,770 know if you're actually communicating this message to 2180 02:05:04,770 --> 02:05:07,470 the Dreyfus girl who's not listening by the way 2181 02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:11,220 is she is I guarantee you she is 2182 02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:15,210 is the is the idea that these people that are all you know 2183 02:05:15,210 --> 02:05:18,720 it's science it's not debatable if Devon Bush is doing you did 2184 02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:22,890 clip you won't play anymore which is the Mollywood clip I 2185 02:05:22,890 --> 02:05:27,930 have it somewhere is that Dale there go they're all in on this 2186 02:05:27,930 --> 02:05:34,980 and things like air power and wind power and all the solar 2187 02:05:34,980 --> 02:05:37,830 power and every all these alternative things. But the 2188 02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:42,150 science is also in on nuclear. Me It is on I mean, it's been 2189 02:05:42,150 --> 02:05:45,930 studied to death. And there are there are products you can buy 2190 02:05:46,140 --> 02:05:49,710 small nukes that you can put in a neighbourhood and power the 2191 02:05:49,710 --> 02:05:52,770 neighbourhood for the next 120 years with using up as much 2192 02:05:52,770 --> 02:05:56,490 energy as you want almost free. And they are none of them are in 2193 02:05:56,490 --> 02:05:59,310 on that they're all good, this dangerous, we're all gonna die. 2194 02:05:59,490 --> 02:06:03,000 And they listen to the phoney baloney reports on Fukushima, 2195 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:06,900 which everybody knows we get a lot. We have a lot of nuclear 2196 02:06:06,900 --> 02:06:09,270 engineers that listen to the show. Not a lot. But we have 2197 02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:12,210 more than a typical show. And they're always feeding us 2198 02:06:12,210 --> 02:06:15,180 information telling us what these bogus reports are all 2199 02:06:15,180 --> 02:06:19,620 about. And it's all just deep to push everyone to natural gas. I 2200 02:06:19,620 --> 02:06:21,390 mean, that's like the big things where we can blow up all the 2201 02:06:21,390 --> 02:06:23,790 shale beds and around the world 2202 02:06:23,820 --> 02:06:27,630 follow the money. That's where the money is. You don't want if 2203 02:06:27,630 --> 02:06:30,450 you if you are running a big energy company, do you think for 2204 02:06:30,450 --> 02:06:35,250 one second, that the the the boss, the big evil bosses with 2205 02:06:35,250 --> 02:06:37,860 the white pussies, they're stroking all day at the oil 2206 02:06:37,860 --> 02:06:41,100 companies that they give a rat's ass whether what they're selling 2207 02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:43,680 you as long as they can sell it to you if they could really make 2208 02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,230 money off of nuclear. They've been doing it. But that's the 2209 02:06:46,230 --> 02:06:49,050 problem. Nuclear you put a little football in there goes 2210 02:06:49,050 --> 02:06:52,890 for 50 years. And it's like, oh, well, we can't keep selling 2211 02:06:52,890 --> 02:06:55,530 stuff over and over and over again. So what is the next 2212 02:06:55,530 --> 02:06:59,400 logical thing? And And conspiratorially Speaking I've 2213 02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:01,800 I've always been suspicious of that tsunami. 2214 02:07:04,500 --> 02:07:08,490 Play might play the oil shale commercial, I got a new little 2215 02:07:08,490 --> 02:07:10,860 meme mini meme in there that I think is kind of cool. 2216 02:07:10,890 --> 02:07:14,160 Americans are asking just what will our energy future look 2217 02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:18,630 like? Well, it could look very bright. New technologies are 2218 02:07:18,630 --> 02:07:22,110 safely unlocking vast domestic supplies of oil and natural gas 2219 02:07:22,110 --> 02:07:26,040 like energy from shale. And with smart policies, we can create 2220 02:07:26,070 --> 02:07:30,030 even more great jobs and could generate billions to fund 2221 02:07:30,030 --> 02:07:33,720 schools, roads and other services. So what does all that 2222 02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:37,650 look like? A secure energy future for generations to come? 2223 02:07:38,940 --> 02:07:40,320 Live on to learn more. 2224 02:07:42,270 --> 02:07:45,210 So the determinant that I thought was interesting, and I 2225 02:07:45,210 --> 02:07:49,110 think maybe JC or somebody noticed that immediately is 2226 02:07:49,110 --> 02:07:55,080 energy from shale. gas from shale, right. And the term 2227 02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:58,050 fracking fracking, of course, can't be used in such a 2228 02:07:58,050 --> 02:08:01,680 commercial public service announcement. But energy from 2229 02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:05,010 shale. Ooh, you can get energy from shale I'm sure a lot of 2230 02:08:05,010 --> 02:08:08,670 people are all Oh, ooh, energy from shale. Yeah, yeah, I've 2231 02:08:08,670 --> 02:08:09,780 heard of something like that. Yeah, 2232 02:08:09,810 --> 02:08:14,790 it's called steam. That's called steam. 2233 02:08:15,150 --> 02:08:17,640 It's not steam is the gas that comes out when they frack the 2234 02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:18,690 shale? Bro. 2235 02:08:18,690 --> 02:08:20,850 That's your energy from shale? Oh yeah. 2236 02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,320 Yes, fracking your fractus shales down there by the way 2237 02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,510 they had a graphic but what do you think barely is near the 2238 02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:29,400 core of the Earth at so far? Well, you 2239 02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:31,260 still burn it to create energy. 2240 02:08:33,420 --> 02:08:36,330 Oh, yeah, in the long run, yeah. But they they're referring to as 2241 02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:39,510 it's a fracking you frack the shale you pull out the natural 2242 02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:43,290 gas and then burn it and make steam which gets the same thing 2243 02:08:43,290 --> 02:08:44,970 a nuke does without all the work 2244 02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:48,420 yeah. And you know, we're looking at thorium cesium all 2245 02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:51,270 these will thorium I think is really this thorium is the hot 2246 02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:54,480 you got the breeder reactors that eat their own poop? Isn't 2247 02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:59,370 there's no there's no waste. But you get like guys I respect like 2248 02:08:59,370 --> 02:09:02,640 Joe Rogan who's tweeting out stuff that was the tweet he sent 2249 02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:07,080 here. Headline 28 signs the West Coast is being absolutely fried 2250 02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:11,610 with nuclear radiation from Fukushima. This is the problem 2251 02:09:12,030 --> 02:09:16,260 is weird. And it's actually it's beautiful. The way this this is 2252 02:09:16,260 --> 02:09:20,820 going if you're on the big oil, big gas side is even the people 2253 02:09:20,820 --> 02:09:25,260 in alternative media are so suspect of their government 2254 02:09:25,260 --> 02:09:29,670 lying. They think that reason yes, that there's some big cover 2255 02:09:29,670 --> 02:09:33,750 up about nuclear. And let me tell you, Germany, they're on a 2256 02:09:33,750 --> 02:09:37,380 collision course with this own vendor, I think is what they 2257 02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:40,260 call it. Shut down all the nuclear plants. They're 2258 02:09:40,260 --> 02:09:43,680 subsidising everything I had a conversation with they're gonna 2259 02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:44,400 go broke doing 2260 02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:47,280 this but yes, they are. I had a conversation not bought into 2261 02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:49,950 this. No. But listen, here's the here's the conversation. Here's 2262 02:09:49,950 --> 02:09:57,330 our ghost. I'll say look, solar and wind. It just doesn't add up 2263 02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:02,370 it you know, it costs more to Make and it just, you know it's 2264 02:10:02,370 --> 02:10:07,470 not profitable. And here's what you hear you, my neighbours are 2265 02:10:07,470 --> 02:10:10,770 selling their energy back to the energy company and they're 2266 02:10:10,770 --> 02:10:16,110 making money. Like it's all subsidised. This is what people 2267 02:10:16,110 --> 02:10:19,650 understand. It's all there are windmills, them. In fact, most 2268 02:10:19,650 --> 02:10:23,580 of these giant windmills are their own LLC with investors. 2269 02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:31,140 You can buy into a windmill, and it's a bonanza because of the 2270 02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:33,930 subsidies. 2271 02:10:35,190 --> 02:10:37,740 But the government gives you money to do it. Then there was 2272 02:10:37,740 --> 02:10:41,550 the same thing with the solar stuff in California, when they 2273 02:10:41,550 --> 02:10:45,930 were subsidising it by I think 33% of the total cost. Yeah, you 2274 02:10:45,930 --> 02:10:48,480 could actually make the calculations showing that you do 2275 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:51,810 a little better than you would without the without the solar so 2276 02:10:51,810 --> 02:10:55,320 you'd make it out. You'd save a few bucks on your PG and E bill. 2277 02:10:55,620 --> 02:10:58,170 But then once they pulled the plug on that, which they did. 2278 02:10:58,380 --> 02:11:00,750 Now there's you can't rationalise it and nobody's 2279 02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:02,190 putting any solar gear out 2280 02:11:02,549 --> 02:11:08,609 of it. Zero. So, tell your friends here at the no agenda 2281 02:11:08,609 --> 02:11:12,899 show we're not anti science. Not Republicans. 2282 02:11:13,620 --> 02:11:16,920 Say bullcrap. You want to look up something funny. Yet you 2283 02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:18,390 Google it? You're Google going? 2284 02:11:18,420 --> 02:11:20,430 Can I use Bing? No, I 2285 02:11:20,430 --> 02:11:27,000 think Google's better okay. And type in windmill fires. Yeah, 2286 02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:28,590 you're seeing these giant? 2287 02:11:28,890 --> 02:11:31,920 No, these are these are the ones that you can Yeah, no, of course 2288 02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,770 I've seen these are the ones you buy. You buy and they catch on 2289 02:11:34,770 --> 02:11:38,580 fire commonly. Yes. Because of the friction. Yeah, two moving 2290 02:11:38,580 --> 02:11:43,500 parts. A lot of stuff. A lot of fires is what's going on that 2291 02:11:43,709 --> 02:11:46,619 you look at. You go to images and then type images and 2292 02:11:47,309 --> 02:11:50,849 fire I see it. I'm going to show my son moved by donation to no 2293 02:11:50,849 --> 02:11:53,879 agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, 2294 02:11:53,879 --> 02:11:54,599 that'd be fun 2295 02:12:02,250 --> 02:12:04,800 by the way, I just can't I can't What did you did you? You didn't 2296 02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:08,760 call that clip twit. Did you? What twit? The thing about 2297 02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,250 science that you that you said I won't play? Which of course I 2298 02:12:11,250 --> 02:12:13,260 will. I just can't find what you called it. 2299 02:12:13,410 --> 02:12:15,030 I don't think I called it twit. 2300 02:12:15,300 --> 02:12:16,500 Maybe science? 2301 02:12:17,700 --> 02:12:20,790 No, that's the one that science is in. Now. None of that. Maybe 2302 02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:24,660 this twit plays you can't watch one of your clips. Um, now it's 2303 02:12:24,660 --> 02:12:25,020 your 2304 02:12:25,020 --> 02:12:29,370 clip. I can't I'm searching. This is why I'm not 2305 02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:34,950 my clip. Naming stinks. Yeah. Yeah. It tends to stink and I 2306 02:12:34,950 --> 02:12:39,180 feel bad about it. So it's a little hard to I mean, I got a 2307 02:12:39,180 --> 02:12:41,970 lot of these clip names or just make no I look at it myself. 2308 02:12:42,810 --> 02:12:45,570 Here I'm doing the show with you. And I'm looking at the clip 2309 02:12:45,570 --> 02:12:48,930 list and I'm thinking I read the clip name I go to hell is that 2310 02:12:48,930 --> 02:12:54,600 about? And I tried to be more descriptive. But then again, 2311 02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:59,670 it's like maybe passes. I don't know why I'm inept at this but I 2312 02:12:59,670 --> 02:13:00,720 am a cat named 2313 02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:03,840 properly and I can't find it was only a couple shows ago but I 2314 02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:05,610 can't find it. No, it was it was a 2315 02:13:05,610 --> 02:13:08,460 while back and horse. We got a few people to thank Yes. 2316 02:13:08,970 --> 02:13:11,910 Including horse presence in Pacifica, California for 2317 02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:18,810 $170.66 $204 Plus my dollar in Episode annual donation plus 2318 02:13:18,810 --> 02:13:25,650 6666 sack of sixes Nice. Thank you. Jerry me Goldsworthy in 2319 02:13:25,650 --> 02:13:32,550 Midland, Michigan came in with 166 56. And I put all the the 2320 02:13:32,580 --> 02:13:35,070 notes from everybody in one place. 2321 02:13:35,370 --> 02:13:38,880 You know, I don't care about how you name clips, but some of 2322 02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:44,520 these notes we should probably pay closer attention to. 2323 02:13:44,850 --> 02:13:47,400 Yeah, well, this one we're not going to read in this entirety. 2324 02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:50,880 Because it is, though Mazal just name that thing, Warren. 2325 02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:54,150 But that's what we do for our execs and associate execs but, 2326 02:13:54,180 --> 02:13:55,620 you know, maybe there's something there. 2327 02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:59,820 A question at hand, the book of knowledge reports that no agenda 2328 02:13:59,820 --> 02:14:05,070 is a property of MVNO. So I asked how does No, it's not 2329 02:14:05,070 --> 02:14:09,630 true, by the way. Oh, it's just a book acknowledges. We used to 2330 02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:14,310 host the show on MVNO servers. But they've never owned a 2331 02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:18,750 company. It's not a company's two guys, its partnership to 2332 02:14:18,750 --> 02:14:21,300 podcast. It's a podcast for dads. 2333 02:14:22,380 --> 02:14:23,880 That's lower than whale poop. 2334 02:14:26,460 --> 02:14:29,100 You know, I think it's moved up beyond above our whale spin and 2335 02:14:29,100 --> 02:14:30,930 now it's just below bat guano 2336 02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:33,630 but still below curable lepers. 2337 02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:39,840 That's a possibility. I wanted to send another value for value 2338 02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:41,700 payment, which I greatly appreciate and understand as a 2339 02:14:41,700 --> 02:14:44,310 consultant. In fact, I digress. Your I've been using your value 2340 02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:48,180 for value proposition statement with my clients. Oh, thanks for 2341 02:14:48,180 --> 02:14:51,780 that. Really. He has a couple of other things to say. But okay, 2342 02:14:51,870 --> 02:14:54,570 that was the only thing that it was important to me to get that 2343 02:14:54,570 --> 02:14:58,740 cleared up. Richard Gardner in $129 from and more New South 2344 02:14:58,740 --> 02:15:02,520 Wales. James Dwyer you can read the over on the side there and 2345 02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:03,540 if there's anything as well, 2346 02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:06,390 what I'd like as he calls us, the courageous Crusaders, which 2347 02:15:06,390 --> 02:15:09,330 I think is good since, you know, everyone is thanking us for our 2348 02:15:09,330 --> 02:15:13,020 courage, and it's a double donation of a sack of sixes and 2349 02:15:13,020 --> 02:15:17,400 he will be moving to his new home in FEMA Region Five. So we 2350 02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:19,890 look forward to welcoming you to five. 2351 02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:28,380 Wow. James Dyer Dwyer in or DWV are in Hong Kong 100 $100.01. He 2352 02:15:28,380 --> 02:15:31,020 says in the morning, Statler and Waldorf, we've heard that one 2353 02:15:31,020 --> 02:15:35,970 before. I made my first donation to your outstanding podcast last 2354 02:15:35,970 --> 02:15:38,670 week only to hear Adam Burke My name 2355 02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:41,910 by accident accidentally. 2356 02:15:42,150 --> 02:15:44,700 Is that a hidden message? Am I working my way to night of 2357 02:15:44,700 --> 02:15:48,090 burped dumb? That wasn't a compelling enough reason to 2358 02:15:48,090 --> 02:15:50,550 write and donate again. Imagine my surprise and walking down the 2359 02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:54,240 street listening to Blue hydrant. The explanation I saw 2360 02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:59,490 these and he sent us some photos. Van glitch, gah and 2361 02:15:59,490 --> 02:16:04,380 Salem Oregon $100. Another note there's lengthy Oh, 2362 02:16:04,380 --> 02:16:08,160 he's nice little nod is the one thing he asked at the end is 2363 02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:11,190 just Yeah, and I think it's okay says can you play anything from 2364 02:16:11,190 --> 02:16:14,190 the Reverend Manning? I haven't heard anything in a long time to 2365 02:16:14,490 --> 02:16:16,620 come out. There you go. 2366 02:16:18,060 --> 02:16:23,310 By the way, you go north from Salem on the 99 West North. 2367 02:16:23,610 --> 02:16:26,340 There's 299 ones on the east side and the other ones on the 2368 02:16:26,340 --> 02:16:28,920 west side of the highway five and you get to go through some 2369 02:16:28,920 --> 02:16:31,740 of the finest wine country you'll ever see. I think is I 2370 02:16:31,740 --> 02:16:35,970 think that area north of Salem beach south of Portland which is 2371 02:16:35,970 --> 02:16:40,050 the Pinot growing area kind of highlighted by the Dundee Hills 2372 02:16:40,050 --> 02:16:44,490 Appalachian I think is just astonishingly pretty I'm gonna 2373 02:16:44,490 --> 02:16:45,300 buy a place up there 2374 02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:52,650 all right, I can't wait the expense 2375 02:16:52,650 --> 02:16:54,870 Hey, you know what you should sell your house now man it's 2376 02:16:54,870 --> 02:16:59,430 like the market is crazy in the bay. Yeah, I'm watching it but 2377 02:16:59,430 --> 02:17:03,000 you need to sell Get the hell out of dodge man buy torches 2378 02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:06,840 says you're gonna be at in five years quit already go buy your 2379 02:17:06,840 --> 02:17:08,160 place and or I'm taught 2380 02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:13,080 this in Sudan house costs. It's in Vilnius, Lithuania. I don't 2381 02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:14,220 know if I botched that. But 2382 02:17:14,220 --> 02:17:16,830 how does Sadowski us I think, 2383 02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:21,660 okay, you got it. He's got 33rd birthday thing coming up. We got 2384 02:17:21,660 --> 02:17:27,540 him listed. He's in Vilnius, Jai Kumar, our buddy from Beverly, 2385 02:17:27,540 --> 02:17:31,800 Massachusetts. He has a note. Let's see if it's a note. That 2386 02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:38,010 was the one I wanted to read. Here it is. I am here to make my 2387 02:17:38,010 --> 02:17:42,240 first contribution to the show. I thought I was given before I 2388 02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:46,470 guess not. To the show. I'm extremely I'm an donnant, a 2389 02:17:46,470 --> 02:17:52,290 strangely, longtime Boehner, as in from episode one. And before 2390 02:17:52,290 --> 02:17:57,510 that, the daily source code for years and humbly request to D 2391 02:17:57,510 --> 02:18:00,750 douching. I appreciate the media assassinations you guys provide. 2392 02:18:01,020 --> 02:18:05,040 As a former journalist, I'll be it on the community newspaper 2393 02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:09,030 level. It's been disappointing to see how lazy and terrible our 2394 02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:12,990 media has become. If anything, I've gotten even more cynical 2395 02:18:12,990 --> 02:18:16,290 about politics in the media than I was when I left the newspaper 2396 02:18:16,290 --> 02:18:20,490 business, and I didn't think it was possible. Thankfully, no 2397 02:18:20,490 --> 02:18:24,870 agenda provides plenty of laughs as well as head shaking moments. 2398 02:18:25,050 --> 02:18:27,810 Keep up the great work and I promise to keep contributing. 2399 02:18:29,459 --> 02:18:36,389 Sorry. I meant this one. Glue and it's D deuced. ruined it. 2400 02:18:36,900 --> 02:18:41,550 Sir Mike Shoemaker in Rancho Cucamonga Anaheim, Azusa and 2401 02:18:41,550 --> 02:18:48,960 Rancho Cucamonga. 9999 I haven't heard I haven't heard him do the 2402 02:18:48,960 --> 02:18:50,880 nine thing for a while and so now he just gave it to you. 2403 02:18:51,150 --> 02:18:59,520 Okay, here we go. Ready? Hit it. 6969 dudes. Barren, ness. 2404 02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:05,220 Barren, barren, barren, barren. Navitas Baroness Janice Kang 2405 02:19:05,220 --> 02:19:09,900 from Milpitas, California 6960 year old 6969 Craig Porter from 2406 02:19:09,900 --> 02:19:12,810 Jacksonville, Florida. Peter Tang strim from Amsterdam. 2407 02:19:13,290 --> 02:19:19,830 Stewart facettes from Liverpool, Merseyside. No Reykjavik I owe 2408 02:19:20,340 --> 02:19:24,390 from Reykjavik and by the way, so I got a note. I did I think. 2409 02:19:25,650 --> 02:19:27,540 Reykjavik. Reykjavik. Reykjavik. 2410 02:19:27,840 --> 02:19:31,920 Reykjavik. So, I got a note from the guy because I set guidelines 2411 02:19:31,980 --> 02:19:35,880 The town is great, but I made a generalisation about what I 2412 02:19:35,880 --> 02:19:39,180 thought to describe the Icelandic situation which was a 2413 02:19:39,180 --> 02:19:42,240 bunch of drunks lousiest food in the world. 2414 02:19:43,379 --> 02:19:45,389 Women Are they hot? Oh, the women are 2415 02:19:45,509 --> 02:19:49,649 terrific. They're all beautiful. I think. If there's a beautiful 2416 02:19:49,649 --> 02:19:52,529 and every woman in Iceland is like gorgeous and they're all 2417 02:19:52,529 --> 02:19:57,269 tall redhead or blonde. Nice. And so I had all these 2418 02:19:57,269 --> 02:20:00,779 generalisations he told me I was I was at least 10 years, which 2419 02:20:00,779 --> 02:20:03,269 is when I went to Iceland about 10 years ago, I said 10 years 2420 02:20:03,269 --> 02:20:06,599 behind the times he says, for one thing, the Icelanders and I 2421 02:20:06,599 --> 02:20:08,969 find, by the way, find this incredibly hard to believe, 2422 02:20:09,089 --> 02:20:13,349 having eaten there, that the Icelanders have become the 2423 02:20:13,409 --> 02:20:19,529 forefront of the foodie movement in the northern climes, and 2424 02:20:19,529 --> 02:20:21,839 there's like you get really great food in Iceland now 2425 02:20:21,839 --> 02:20:24,839 apparently is a bunch of famous chefs. And there's all of this I 2426 02:20:24,839 --> 02:20:27,089 also bitched about the expressionist art that was so 2427 02:20:27,089 --> 02:20:30,059 popular because that stuff's gone by the wayside and then my 2428 02:20:30,119 --> 02:20:32,849 would really disappointed me as I said, Well you know, in 2429 02:20:32,849 --> 02:20:35,039 Iceland you when you take when you're in the hotel or wherever 2430 02:20:35,039 --> 02:20:38,039 you are, you take a shower and they they run the geyser water 2431 02:20:38,039 --> 02:20:41,009 through the hot water side and you get sprayed with the 2432 02:20:41,009 --> 02:20:45,389 sulfuric water. It's so two comes off of it and you stink. 2433 02:20:45,419 --> 02:20:49,979 You smell like just stink. He says that ended so I'm sick and 2434 02:20:49,979 --> 02:20:50,279 she's 2435 02:20:50,760 --> 02:20:52,530 getting bother. Why bother? 2436 02:20:53,220 --> 02:20:56,790 Yeah, I mean, all the good stuff has gone by the way, I will 2437 02:20:56,790 --> 02:21:00,780 always believe there was health benefits to those showers. But 2438 02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:03,420 so too, that's good. You can't you never catch a cold and ice 2439 02:21:03,420 --> 02:21:06,540 and then because of that, yeah, sure font Josh McDonald and 2440 02:21:06,540 --> 02:21:11,610 Brunswick Victoria 6969. RAMAN breasts Bressler in Arlington, 2441 02:21:11,700 --> 02:21:22,350 Washington and that closes 6969 Nathan Howell 69 plain new 2442 02:21:22,380 --> 02:21:28,950 Lenox, Illinois. Morton keyman Cayman. Kiernan key here in this 2443 02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:32,430 rack. You never see them in the screen. Kiernan? In Copenhagen. 2444 02:21:32,430 --> 02:21:36,360 6666. Baron, there's a Janus Keynesian bat Erin 2445 02:21:36,390 --> 02:21:41,880 Burnett s and these are all for our 66 year old. Are you sure 2446 02:21:41,880 --> 02:21:46,860 it's the 28th? Not the not the 26th? Yeah. Look it up. 2447 02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:51,840 We've decided we discussed this a million times. Yeah, I 2448 02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:52,620 keep forgetting. 2449 02:21:53,730 --> 02:21:57,150 You're the one that made a stink about me saying it was the 26th 2450 02:21:57,390 --> 02:22:00,000 No, you were saying the 23rd? No, I 2451 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:01,260 never said the 23rd. 2452 02:22:03,300 --> 02:22:12,180 Okay, our first show ever. Was I have it here on the 26th Oh, it 2453 02:22:12,180 --> 02:22:17,340 wasn't? Yes. 1026 2007. Hold on a second go to no agenda. 2454 02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:18,360 nation.com. 2455 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:21,510 But how did we keep thinking this? The 28th? I don't know 2456 02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:21,750 you're 2457 02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:24,870 in charge of that part of the show. You're in charge of 2458 02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:27,390 newsletters, and scheduling. 2459 02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:31,590 Scheduling. I'm also the head of the peerage committee. I might 2460 02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:34,140 Yes. That's too much work. 2461 02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:37,020 You do the finances. We still 2462 02:22:37,020 --> 02:22:41,490 celebrate the show on Sunday. It's just so happens that that 2463 02:22:41,490 --> 02:22:44,040 the anniversary is on Saturday. So if anybody wants to get a 2464 02:22:44,370 --> 02:22:47,790 donation on exact on the exact day, it will be Saturday. 2465 02:22:47,820 --> 02:22:51,450 That would be nice. But so just Just so we're clear. You really 2466 02:22:51,450 --> 02:22:54,720 botched this one. How did I botch it? Well, you kept saying 2467 02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:55,620 the 28th? 2468 02:22:55,800 --> 02:22:59,130 Will you kept saying the I said the 26? And then you corrected 2469 02:22:59,130 --> 02:23:02,850 me? Oh spa. Okay. All right, I 2470 02:23:02,850 --> 02:23:06,060 see that you're like on top on either. Excuse me, whatever the 2471 02:23:06,060 --> 02:23:07,320 case. Have you seen the show 2472 02:23:07,320 --> 02:23:12,120 notes? Have you seen the show notes? That's what I thought. 2473 02:23:13,170 --> 02:23:16,110 That's what I do. How much work that is? 2474 02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:19,200 Oh, the show notes or I'll give you 100% credit for the show 2475 02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:22,740 notes. Those show notes are worth their weight in gold. I've 2476 02:23:22,740 --> 02:23:26,760 said this to people. If you're a student at a high school or 2477 02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:30,750 college and you want to do some dynamite papers, go into the 2478 02:23:30,750 --> 02:23:33,180 show notes and get all the material you'll ever need 2479 02:23:33,210 --> 02:23:39,390 onward. Yeah. All right. These are 6666 is where was I? Janet 2480 02:23:39,420 --> 02:23:45,000 Baron net Tess Janice, sir Hank Biglan in Kew Gardens, New York, 2481 02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:47,940 John gross in Springfield, Virginia. Matthew Greene Smith 2482 02:23:47,940 --> 02:23:53,910 and Victoria. wheelers Hill boss brew. Broin Downings. 2483 02:23:53,940 --> 02:23:57,600 Bus brown, brown, Hearst divorced, borscht. 2484 02:23:59,190 --> 02:24:04,860 Garrus Corp. GE R I S Corp in Arlington, Virginia. Sack of 2485 02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:08,670 sixes says yeah, Doug Dodge in Oxnard, California. That's a 2486 02:24:08,670 --> 02:24:12,870 great, that's a porn name right there. Doug. Doug dodge, 2487 02:24:12,870 --> 02:24:16,050 everybody. How you doing? Thanks. jerris Corporation being 2488 02:24:16,050 --> 02:24:17,670 in Arlington, Virginia, some sort of 2489 02:24:19,050 --> 02:24:21,090 nothing, nothing, nothing to see here. 2490 02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:27,510 A gi bozi in GI Bill Ozzie Gabe ahwazi. That's right. He's in 2491 02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:34,350 Israel. 6666 Carol Reed market. Drayton, Shropshire. David, 2492 02:24:34,860 --> 02:24:42,990 mass. Mass Yan jello. mass mass Ian jello. What do you think? 2493 02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:51,090 Peoria? Arizona 66? I think so. KENNETH Michael bust in Oslo, 2494 02:24:51,810 --> 02:24:58,980 Norway. Adam Tucker, Miranda ba Queensland. Richard Gardner in 2495 02:24:58,980 --> 02:25:02,460 more New South Wales. was Harvey Lee in Federal Way Washington. 2496 02:25:03,030 --> 02:25:09,210 Chris Bolton in Newcastle under Lyme in the UK. Thank you for 2497 02:25:09,210 --> 02:25:13,080 your courage. He says Preston feller in Sonoma, California, 2498 02:25:13,080 --> 02:25:18,510 John Porter and a or South Ayrshire, UK. Dave, we got a lot 2499 02:25:18,510 --> 02:25:24,930 of good UK donors. Dave, the Mormon from the Czech Republic. 2500 02:25:24,930 --> 02:25:28,860 I do have a note from David the Mormon. It's handwritten. And it 2501 02:25:28,860 --> 02:25:34,440 starts off with dear Jebel and Eric Abdullah. I'm in longhand 2502 02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:39,180 to prove that my 80s US education is still good. He can 2503 02:25:39,180 --> 02:25:43,320 barely write. I can tell you that and now is obvious. His 2504 02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:48,330 wife took over the writing. Writing she has of course I have 2505 02:25:48,330 --> 02:25:56,130 my wives. Check education. Why take? Good big Good thing I 2506 02:25:56,130 --> 02:26:03,630 chose a career in it. No agenda and biscuits. Some me something 2507 02:26:03,630 --> 02:26:06,240 me alive because it gets this one. Some of the scroll here 2508 02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:11,010 looks very French during a week of my driving on windy check 2509 02:26:11,010 --> 02:26:17,370 roads. So here's 66 in something or other for Jay, Jay Bolden, 2510 02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:19,920 people. Were happy to read your notes. But you know 2511 02:26:22,560 --> 02:26:26,490 what I'm saying? But here's the joke of it. He didn't send 6666 2512 02:26:27,270 --> 02:26:33,060 He sent $1,200 In Karuna style very nice. Kroners No, they're 2513 02:26:33,060 --> 02:26:34,920 called Karuna. You said Coronas. 2514 02:26:36,030 --> 02:26:38,280 Well, karuna Kroners isn't it? Kroners? 2515 02:26:38,580 --> 02:26:41,700 No, no, no, it's K O R una. If you look it up, that's why I 2516 02:26:41,700 --> 02:26:44,790 believe it. And so it's 1200 which I don't know I'm going to 2517 02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:47,580 where I'm going to exchange these. And it comes to I hate to 2518 02:26:47,580 --> 02:26:50,700 say it on today's exchange rate because the dollar is falling. 2519 02:26:50,820 --> 02:26:57,660 Six $4.23. Okay, close. Anyway, where was I? 2520 02:26:59,550 --> 02:27:01,260 Joining Joshua mando. 2521 02:27:01,679 --> 02:27:05,339 Greenville, South Carolina Chad Biederman biderman In Round 2522 02:27:05,339 --> 02:27:10,619 Lake, Illinois. Oops. In my page, just scroll down to the $4 2523 02:27:10,619 --> 02:27:13,289 donors. You get reads Computer Solutions 2524 02:27:13,290 --> 02:27:16,530 and Services Santa Barbara California. 5560 brand new 2525 02:27:16,530 --> 02:27:21,660 listener hooked after episode 556 So that's why he did 5.56 2526 02:27:21,660 --> 02:27:26,220 times 10 Thank you. Christopher Ward cold field in the UK. 2527 02:27:26,550 --> 02:27:29,640 And then I'll finish it off with George oberhof are in Jackson, 2528 02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:33,840 New Jersey. 5033 and then these all few people have $50 2529 02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:39,000 donations including Macy stalo Watsky stole a lot still Loski 2530 02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:44,250 in Calgary, Alberta. Eric vite in Dublin, California right up 2531 02:27:44,250 --> 02:27:49,500 the street from me Kyle Bower from Parts Unknown Dan grab from 2532 02:27:49,500 --> 02:27:52,800 Lansdale, Pennsylvania and finally David greatest name on 2533 02:27:52,800 --> 02:28:00,990 the list. Trotsky from of all places Romeoville. Illinois. And 2534 02:28:00,990 --> 02:28:04,800 that will be our donors for show by five now. I want to thank 2535 02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:07,560 them all and we do have the anniversary on Saturday, 2536 02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:08,280 apparently. 2537 02:28:08,369 --> 02:28:12,059 Yeah, that is the official anniversary. But we celebrate it 2538 02:28:12,059 --> 02:28:15,779 on it's kind of like the inauguration of the president. 2539 02:28:16,950 --> 02:28:18,270 But we could Yeah celebrate 2540 02:28:18,270 --> 02:28:20,160 tour it's different that we can do we can do different day. I 2541 02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:23,310 mean, I'm gonna celebrate it sound like she's will do. I'll 2542 02:28:23,310 --> 02:28:27,540 say I'm gonna celebrate Saturday by prepping for the Sunday show. 2543 02:28:27,540 --> 02:28:31,740 How does that sound? That's pretty much what we do. Yeah. 2544 02:28:32,790 --> 02:28:35,250 Anyway, I am looking forward to that. That should be that should 2545 02:28:35,250 --> 02:28:38,310 be a lot of fun. So hit us up with a sack of sixes we'd love 2546 02:28:38,310 --> 02:28:41,130 that and of course thank you so much for supporting us 2547 02:28:41,370 --> 02:28:44,490 throughout the years and we hope you continue to do so I will of 2548 02:28:44,490 --> 02:28:49,380 course be doing a big edit of the healthcare.gov C span 2549 02:28:50,340 --> 02:28:51,270 broadcast 2550 02:28:51,450 --> 02:28:55,530 I'm sure it will be it will be sounds like a comedy already yes 2551 02:28:55,530 --> 02:28:58,830 from a from anyone who listened to the show who has half an 2552 02:28:58,830 --> 02:29:04,500 inkling about anything. Will I'm sure you will you'll get quite a 2553 02:29:04,500 --> 02:29:09,300 kick out of it obviously to vorak.org/n A 2554 02:29:16,500 --> 02:29:20,940 apparently I messed up on Sunday so I have a make good birthday 2555 02:29:20,940 --> 02:29:24,900 call up from Dane at least Garmin to her sister Brielle. I 2556 02:29:24,900 --> 02:29:27,660 guess I didn't do the pronunciation right. Always 2557 02:29:27,660 --> 02:29:30,660 happy to do something for our names though. Also on this bus 2558 02:29:30,660 --> 02:29:35,190 Blandings turns 34 on the 25th Carol Reed says Happy Birthday 2559 02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:39,480 to son Sir Simon Reed of New York on the 26th That'll be our 2560 02:29:39,480 --> 02:29:43,470 anniversary as well. KENNETH Myklebust on Mikela bus says 2561 02:29:43,470 --> 02:29:47,880 Happy Birthday to Mateus Shortland Myklebust 32 on the 2562 02:29:47,880 --> 02:29:53,610 24th today and Christopher Ward celebrated 33 on the 21st Happy 2563 02:29:53,610 --> 02:29:56,250 birthday from all your buddies here the best podcast in the 2564 02:29:56,250 --> 02:30:02,550 universe. And then we have quite The list of of knights this is 2565 02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:06,000 really a weird, weird situation. I don't think so. It's just 2566 02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:08,670 people are topping up you know, it's like you get to that level 2567 02:30:08,670 --> 02:30:09,240 and they're you I 2568 02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:17,160 know you this is 1234567 This is a record. I got my phone now, I 2569 02:30:17,160 --> 02:30:17,940 got my sword out. 2570 02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:23,100 I need a plaster. I need a plaster. All right. I would like 2571 02:30:23,220 --> 02:30:27,660 to have here at the roundtable. Peter Wesner Ashley Jones. 2572 02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:32,760 Andrew gamble, Peter McConnell, Richard Gardner bas Botanics and 2573 02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:38,190 Brett Farrell. I hereby pronounce the all night to the 2574 02:30:38,190 --> 02:30:43,200 no agenda roundtable we have Sir Peter Wesner, Sir Jack Mormon 2575 02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:47,790 Justin. Sir Oscar, Sir Peter McConnell, Sir Richard Gardner, 2576 02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:53,340 sir Buzzsprout. And Sir bet Farrell. Congratulations. 2577 02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:59,310 Welcome to the roundtable for you. I just did such a long 2578 02:30:59,310 --> 02:31:00,510 list. I need more music. 2579 02:31:00,750 --> 02:31:01,500 And Brett. 2580 02:31:02,279 --> 02:31:08,759 I got it here. It's what? Yes, black night from Cincinnati. For 2581 02:31:08,759 --> 02:31:10,889 all of you, oh my god, I can't believe this for your 2582 02:31:10,889 --> 02:31:12,899 contributions to the best podcasting universe in the 2583 02:31:12,899 --> 02:31:16,679 amount of $1,000 or more. We thank you and offer for you here 2584 02:31:16,679 --> 02:31:20,429 at the round table. OPM and warm orange juice, hookers and blow 2585 02:31:20,519 --> 02:31:22,769 three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken, red boys and 2586 02:31:22,769 --> 02:31:25,499 Chardonnay hot pans and booze, long haired heavy metal guys and 2587 02:31:25,499 --> 02:31:28,229 Scotch if you're into that Rubenesque swimmin and Rosae 2588 02:31:28,409 --> 02:31:31,199 vodka and vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider now 2589 02:31:31,199 --> 02:31:36,929 sports or mutton at me. And thank you again for producing 2590 02:31:36,929 --> 02:31:41,399 your no agenda show because there's a lot of work tired and 2591 02:31:41,399 --> 02:31:42,449 I cut my thumb to 2592 02:31:45,750 --> 02:31:47,730 John, a couple of things. I got a couple of shorties before you 2593 02:31:47,730 --> 02:31:51,180 go on already. Kabul shorties this is just news that people 2594 02:31:51,180 --> 02:31:56,130 need to know about. Brunei goes Sherea is one of the interesting 2595 02:31:56,130 --> 02:31:59,820 little stories that popped up. Salt the Brunei way before it 2596 02:31:59,820 --> 02:32:02,760 came up. Sorry. Yeah, I was just saying that. Since you're 2597 02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:05,160 stalled there. I was gonna set it up a little bit with the 2598 02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:08,490 Sultan of Brunei we have to remember you once. extol is the 2599 02:32:08,490 --> 02:32:11,460 richest man in the world. He was the guy was always on Lifestyles 2600 02:32:11,460 --> 02:32:14,220 of the Rich and Famous and would fly what's his name around, got 2601 02:32:14,250 --> 02:32:17,880 booked, apparently a lot of hookers or something. And he's 2602 02:32:17,880 --> 02:32:22,560 the guy who built the kitchens for the last sort restaurant in 2603 02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:25,770 Manhattan, because that's where he eats when he comes into town. 2604 02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:27,480 And now this, 2605 02:32:28,170 --> 02:32:31,920 the oil kingdom of Brunei will soon be under Islamic criminal 2606 02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:35,760 law. The ruling Sultan announced today that enforcement of the 2607 02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:40,170 Sharia penal code will begin in six months. Penalties include 2608 02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:44,130 amputations for convicted thieves and stoning for those 2609 02:32:44,130 --> 02:32:48,240 who commit adultery. Brunei already bans the sale of alcohol 2610 02:32:48,330 --> 02:32:51,690 and evangelism by other religions. It's the 2611 02:32:51,690 --> 02:32:56,340 Texas of Saudi Arabia as a place we got to visit. We got to go 2612 02:32:56,940 --> 02:32:59,820 and put a big cork in my face so I don't say anything wrong. 2613 02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:03,690 And then there's a story that was kind of odd, which I had 2614 02:33:03,690 --> 02:33:07,410 never heard about the Bishop of bling and but apparently some 2615 02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:12,090 some guy I got by the way is very weird looking. But he's the 2616 02:33:12,090 --> 02:33:16,440 Bishop of bling in Germany. Yeah, and he I guess, I guess 2617 02:33:16,440 --> 02:33:18,960 the I guess he finally got called out by the pope because 2618 02:33:18,960 --> 02:33:20,970 the Pope is a Jesuit for the poor. You know, 2619 02:33:21,450 --> 02:33:24,330 this guy. Pope's taking the bus to work. 2620 02:33:25,050 --> 02:33:28,320 Our instant index begins with Lifestyles of the Rich and holy, 2621 02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:33,180 some tough love from Pope Francis today suspending the so 2622 02:33:33,180 --> 02:33:38,760 called Bishop of bling, who flew first class spent 14 $2 million 2623 02:33:39,150 --> 02:33:44,640 to renovate his home in Germany, and even had a $20,000 bathtub. 2624 02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:47,670 He was summoned to the Vatican for face to face with the Pope. 2625 02:33:47,670 --> 02:33:51,090 But tonight the Vatican will not say how long that suspension 2626 02:33:51,150 --> 02:33:55,440 will last. Again. Thanks. I'm Don. 2627 02:33:56,850 --> 02:33:59,910 It's funny. This was one of those throwaway reports that 2628 02:33:59,910 --> 02:34:04,440 everyone reported on the bathtub went from 10,000 to 15,000 to 2629 02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:08,670 20,000. Do people need to be ashamed of yourselves with all 2630 02:34:08,670 --> 02:34:11,880 the stupid bullcrap news there's a real news. 2631 02:34:12,690 --> 02:34:15,090 And here's another thing that's going on, which I still have. 2632 02:34:15,090 --> 02:34:18,150 You're in Texas, so you must have picked up on this because 2633 02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:21,480 it's gotta be all over the news in Texas. I have never I think 2634 02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:24,930 it's a hoax that got out of control. And you just tweeted 2635 02:34:24,930 --> 02:34:28,770 that it was which is this idea that there's some lame football 2636 02:34:28,770 --> 02:34:32,700 team in Texas that law high school that lost two into one of 2637 02:34:32,700 --> 02:34:35,280 the championship teams because Texas got a lot of really great. 2638 02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:39,360 Yeah, high school football games 91 to nothing and supposedly, 2639 02:34:39,600 --> 02:34:42,900 some parents sued the coach in the No 2640 02:34:42,930 --> 02:34:47,730 no, no, no, no. That's not Do you have a clip when someone 2641 02:34:47,730 --> 02:34:49,650 says sued? No, 2642 02:34:49,710 --> 02:34:53,340 no, no, I'm telling you this is the meme. I'm not but they say 2643 02:34:53,340 --> 02:34:55,620 it all over the here I didn't think I needed a clip that's all 2644 02:34:55,620 --> 02:34:58,530 they talked about on all the talk shows. But they there's no 2645 02:34:58,530 --> 02:35:00,510 way this is a bullshit Don't worry, 2646 02:35:00,540 --> 02:35:01,650 I have the story here. 2647 02:35:03,990 --> 02:35:07,440 Running the ball into the endzone, only those cats Friday 2648 02:35:07,470 --> 02:35:11,970 made one touchdown after another, winning their game 91 2649 02:35:11,970 --> 02:35:12,630 to nothing. 2650 02:35:13,260 --> 02:35:17,880 That's a cremation as what that is. I wish at some point they 2651 02:35:17,880 --> 02:35:21,150 can say okay, game over. Why even finish it? 2652 02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:24,450 A parent for the opposing team for orts Western Hills 2653 02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:28,620 considered it more than just a painful loss Aledo ISD says he 2654 02:35:28,620 --> 02:35:31,680 filed an official complaint online against it entire 2655 02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:33,510 coaching staff for bullying 2656 02:35:33,690 --> 02:35:35,400 that's what really happened 2657 02:35:36,660 --> 02:35:40,320 fine so that got out of control from some gauges bitching online 2658 02:35:40,350 --> 02:35:40,650 Yeah, he 2659 02:35:40,650 --> 02:35:44,280 went on the school website remember we had those forms and 2660 02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:47,280 he filled out the form and said the entire coaching staff and 2661 02:35:47,340 --> 02:35:48,570 bullied and then 2662 02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:52,770 I'm glad you're in Texas because we could not I dug and dug and 2663 02:35:52,770 --> 02:35:54,960 dug I could not I knew this was a bowl craft. 2664 02:35:56,010 --> 02:35:58,230 This is just to make Texans look stupid. 2665 02:36:00,090 --> 02:36:02,910 Well, I think it has to I think it has two purposes. I think it 2666 02:36:02,910 --> 02:36:05,700 definitely makes Texas look stupid. But that's a common 2667 02:36:05,700 --> 02:36:10,020 thing that that goes on. You get used to it. I know people in 2668 02:36:10,020 --> 02:36:13,110 Texas that say that y'all when anyone news thing happens in 2669 02:36:13,110 --> 02:36:16,470 Texas the news media comes in finds the dumbest, Toothless guy 2670 02:36:16,470 --> 02:36:21,090 they can find and asked for his opinion. She told me that that's 2671 02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:23,910 all she's ever seen on the news. She's been a lifelong Texas 2672 02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:27,900 person. True and well anyway, so that I knew this was good. I'm 2673 02:36:27,900 --> 02:36:30,180 glad that you got to the bottom of it because I was concerned. 2674 02:36:30,750 --> 02:36:33,450 The other the other reason for it is so all the right wing talk 2675 02:36:33,450 --> 02:36:37,230 shows can get all worked up about bullying is like you know, 2676 02:36:37,230 --> 02:36:39,900 this has gotten out of control. You know, there's terrible and 2677 02:36:39,900 --> 02:36:43,110 they wouldn't have the time. Yeah, moan and groan. Well, 2678 02:36:43,140 --> 02:36:46,530 let me throw a shorty out. Yeah, this is something that we have 2679 02:36:46,530 --> 02:36:51,540 discussed. We have prognosticated we have put in 2680 02:36:51,540 --> 02:36:59,220 the Red Book. We have held steadfast as fact, truth and the 2681 02:36:59,220 --> 02:37:03,150 way it is, for many, many many years and now someone finally 2682 02:37:03,150 --> 02:37:03,840 the survey 2683 02:37:08,310 --> 02:37:10,080 on the best podcast in the universe. 2684 02:37:13,260 --> 02:37:17,340 This is scientific Americans the 62nd Science, I'm Erica Barris 2685 02:37:17,400 --> 02:37:20,640 got a minute. The other side effects can 2686 02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:24,270 include internal haemorrhaging, heart eruption, brain rupture, 2687 02:37:24,390 --> 02:37:25,710 rabies, loss of 2688 02:37:25,710 --> 02:37:28,830 eyesight or smell medications come with a long list of 2689 02:37:28,830 --> 02:37:32,070 potential side effects. And that was study finds that the litany 2690 02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:35,190 of unpleasant consequences does not deter prospective 2691 02:37:35,190 --> 02:37:39,210 purchasers. In fact, those warnings might actually increase 2692 02:37:39,210 --> 02:37:42,450 drug sales. For the study subjects were shown two 2693 02:37:42,450 --> 02:37:45,600 different versions of ads for three different products, 2694 02:37:45,720 --> 02:37:49,590 cigarettes, artificial sweeteners, and medications. One 2695 02:37:49,590 --> 02:37:53,160 version of the ads clearly warned of potential perils, for 2696 02:37:53,160 --> 02:37:57,000 example, hair loss, weight gain or stroke. The other set of ads 2697 02:37:57,030 --> 02:38:00,570 were warning free, subjects who saw ads with warnings were 2698 02:38:00,570 --> 02:38:03,720 initially less likely to buy the products. But when surveyed 2699 02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:06,750 again, some time later, they were actually more likely to 2700 02:38:06,750 --> 02:38:09,600 make the purchase than were those who saw ads without the 2701 02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:13,230 warnings. The study is in the journal Psychological Science, 2702 02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:16,890 the researcher saying after some time goes viewers of the ads 2703 02:38:16,890 --> 02:38:19,680 interpret the listing of negative side effects as a show 2704 02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:23,250 of good faith, a sign of trustworthiness. Who would have 2705 02:38:23,250 --> 02:38:26,130 thought you could increase demand with nausea, diarrhoea, 2706 02:38:26,880 --> 02:38:30,660 flatulence, weight gain, migraines, mood swings, thanks. 2707 02:38:30,690 --> 02:38:32,640 There you go. We've always said no, 2708 02:38:32,640 --> 02:38:36,690 but this is not news. We discuss this we had years ago, but 2709 02:38:36,690 --> 02:38:39,510 they haven't No, this is a new survey. Oh, they approve it. 2710 02:38:39,540 --> 02:38:42,780 Yeah. However, if we had done the cert if we had done the 2711 02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:47,730 survey, we clearly would have put tongue protrudes in snake 2712 02:38:47,730 --> 02:38:50,580 like motion and anal leakage may occur. 2713 02:38:50,940 --> 02:38:54,960 You'd be like John Kerry. Yeah, what was his tongue? I 2714 02:38:54,960 --> 02:38:56,490 don't know. Man. He's freaky. 2715 02:38:56,850 --> 02:38:59,670 It sticks eyes a little bitty thin little snake like tiny and 2716 02:38:59,670 --> 02:39:00,330 it keeps him picking, 2717 02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:02,850 picking picking it out. Keeps sneaking out. I know it's a 2718 02:39:02,850 --> 02:39:03,690 little frightening. 2719 02:39:04,260 --> 02:39:07,620 I go okay, let me try this one on you. This is a good distance 2720 02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:10,080 store I know you didn't get and nobody in the country has gotten 2721 02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:13,380 is a local story. But I think it's a good one pepper spray 2722 02:39:13,380 --> 02:39:13,920 cop. 2723 02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:19,560 Former UC Davis police officer who pepper sprayed a row of 2724 02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:23,280 seated campus protesters will get more money out of it than 2725 02:39:23,310 --> 02:39:27,750 they did. A judge just approved a $38,000 worker's comp 2726 02:39:27,750 --> 02:39:31,860 settlement between John pike and the university. He claims that 2727 02:39:31,860 --> 02:39:36,090 he suffered depression and anxiety due to death threats. 2728 02:39:36,480 --> 02:39:39,540 And protesters each received $30,000 in damages. 2729 02:39:40,890 --> 02:39:43,320 You know the pepper spray cup the weather became a meme right? 2730 02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:46,320 Yeah, that guy he got he got he got more money than the kids 2731 02:39:48,150 --> 02:39:49,620 just psychologically burdened. 2732 02:39:51,900 --> 02:39:55,080 And what did we get? What do we get? We get called out as 2733 02:39:55,080 --> 02:39:59,970 Republicans and deniers. Here's a good one. Now can I do so 2734 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:00,660 Something here 2735 02:40:00,690 --> 02:40:04,410 yeah after this Zuckerberg pay this is this is the this is the 2736 02:40:04,410 --> 02:40:07,140 sacrifice we're making. Listen what this guy does learn tonight 2737 02:40:07,140 --> 02:40:07,500 Mark 2738 02:40:07,500 --> 02:40:12,240 Zuckerberg makes $30,000 About every seven minutes. The 2739 02:40:12,240 --> 02:40:15,330 Facebook founders corporate compensation package last year 2740 02:40:15,630 --> 02:40:19,350 was worth a record breaking $2.3 billion 2741 02:40:20,070 --> 02:40:23,430 out right. Okay, whatever. I don't really don't care power to 2742 02:40:23,430 --> 02:40:23,670 him 2743 02:40:24,120 --> 02:40:26,490 saying just put things in perspective. 2744 02:40:26,520 --> 02:40:30,360 No, you know what? I'm over that. I personally I know you're 2745 02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:37,050 not I personally I know you. I know you're not. I know. I've 2746 02:40:37,050 --> 02:40:39,870 been to the mountaintop my friend. All right, go play your 2747 02:40:39,870 --> 02:40:43,440 I have been at the Global peaking. And I have learned that 2748 02:40:43,440 --> 02:40:48,660 you can. It's better to have zero net wallet. It's the way to 2749 02:40:48,660 --> 02:40:51,570 go. And I'm very successful at it. 2750 02:40:51,840 --> 02:40:54,510 We're doing a lot of zero peeking as it speaks global 2751 02:40:54,510 --> 02:40:56,040 peaking. What am I saying? Oh the one 2752 02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:59,700 this is from Gitmo nation lowlands. And this is an example 2753 02:40:59,700 --> 02:41:06,450 of how news media is just making people insane. Every single 2754 02:41:06,450 --> 02:41:09,390 year, it crops up again. But this year, there was a little 2755 02:41:09,390 --> 02:41:14,880 twist, the annual celebration. As you know John in the 2756 02:41:14,880 --> 02:41:18,810 Netherlands, there will never was a Santa Claus or a Father 2757 02:41:18,810 --> 02:41:23,850 Christmas, or some fat dude come down the chimney. Instead of the 2758 02:41:23,850 --> 02:41:29,130 25th of December. With the Santa Claus red suit elves reindeer, 2759 02:41:29,910 --> 02:41:33,840 the Dutch have seemed that a class and synthetic class comes 2760 02:41:33,840 --> 02:41:37,860 on December 5. That is his his big day. He's dressed like the 2761 02:41:37,860 --> 02:41:41,460 Pope, he rides on a white horse. And he has his helpers, the 2762 02:41:41,460 --> 02:41:46,050 black Pete's. And this of course, throughout the years of 2763 02:41:46,050 --> 02:41:49,890 Cultural Marxism, I'm sorry, multicultural integration has 2764 02:41:49,890 --> 02:41:54,300 become quite the issue with the politically correct a tradition 2765 02:41:54,300 --> 02:41:59,340 that has been going on for 170 years. It has to stop because of 2766 02:41:59,340 --> 02:42:05,040 course it's racist. And this, we've talked about this at least 2767 02:42:05,040 --> 02:42:06,870 three or four years in a row would you say? 2768 02:42:08,250 --> 02:42:09,870 Yeah, and sometimes in between. 2769 02:42:10,980 --> 02:42:16,950 So now there's a new twist to it as this as this pops up again. A 2770 02:42:16,950 --> 02:42:18,180 woman from the United Wait, 2771 02:42:18,180 --> 02:42:21,270 wait, stop, stop. Wait, how far back does this tradition go? 2772 02:42:21,300 --> 02:42:24,090 I think 170 years or something? Oh, okay, 2773 02:42:24,119 --> 02:42:24,899 this new then. 2774 02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:30,390 What do you mean, it's new? Yeah, it's really your 2775 02:42:30,510 --> 02:42:32,490 standards as new as new. Okay. 2776 02:42:33,690 --> 02:42:41,100 So what was new this year, is a woman by the name of Vereen 2777 02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:47,580 shepherd of the United Nations, actually, to be quite specific, 2778 02:42:48,120 --> 02:42:57,240 the United Nations working group working group of experts on 2779 02:42:57,240 --> 02:43:01,440 people of African descent, but we actually didn't know that 2780 02:43:01,440 --> 02:43:04,110 that was what she was in was just the woman from the United 2781 02:43:04,110 --> 02:43:09,930 Nations. And she sent on United Nations letterhead to the Prime 2782 02:43:09,930 --> 02:43:15,150 Minister of the Netherlands, a letter Your Excellency, we have 2783 02:43:15,150 --> 02:43:18,240 the honour to address you in our capacities as the Chair 2784 02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:21,660 rapporteur of the working group on people of African descent, 2785 02:43:21,960 --> 02:43:25,530 Special Rapporteur in the field of cultural rights, Independent 2786 02:43:25,530 --> 02:43:28,920 Expert on minority issues, Special Rapporteur on the 2787 02:43:28,920 --> 02:43:32,160 contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, 2788 02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:35,250 xenophobia and related intolerance pursuant to Human 2789 02:43:35,250 --> 02:43:42,990 Rights Council resolution 1828 1966619633. And then I'll 2790 02:43:42,990 --> 02:43:46,620 skip a whole bunch. The character image of Black Pete 2791 02:43:47,130 --> 02:43:50,670 perpetuates a stereotype image of African people and people of 2792 02:43:50,670 --> 02:43:55,590 African descent as second class citizens. You gotta it's in the 2793 02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:57,360 show notes you can you gotta read. That's pretty 2794 02:43:57,360 --> 02:44:00,120 fun. Now I'm looking at Black Pete here, at least one version. 2795 02:44:00,120 --> 02:44:04,680 Yeah. And you think if the if they use actual Africans, 2796 02:44:04,680 --> 02:44:07,980 instead of guys in black face that might lay some of this? 2797 02:44:08,010 --> 02:44:12,060 Well, from the tradition you have, there's in the origins 2798 02:44:12,090 --> 02:44:15,840 really odd that there were two ravens who were who turned into 2799 02:44:15,840 --> 02:44:20,550 boys who then would go in and bring the kids presents. And the 2800 02:44:20,550 --> 02:44:22,470 reason why they're black is because they go down the 2801 02:44:22,470 --> 02:44:27,510 chimney. And that's why they got now it doesn't matter. The thing 2802 02:44:27,510 --> 02:44:30,450 is, it's a racial thing. But what she did an interview for 2803 02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:37,140 one of the main news, programmes on television, and it's at the 2804 02:44:37,140 --> 02:44:40,320 very end, where she gives it away that she's full of crap 2805 02:44:40,320 --> 02:44:43,110 because that, of course, is what I'm going to expose here. But 2806 02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:48,090 when you listen to this, this is how the United Nations or people 2807 02:44:48,090 --> 02:44:51,690 affiliated with the United United Nations go to work on 2808 02:44:51,690 --> 02:44:54,600 their own agenda. She's from Jamaica, by the way, 2809 02:44:54,630 --> 02:44:59,070 the working group cannot understand why it is that people 2810 02:44:59,070 --> 02:45:02,580 in the Netherlands cannot see that this is a throwback to 2811 02:45:02,580 --> 02:45:06,960 slavery. And that's in the 21st century, this practice should 2812 02:45:06,960 --> 02:45:07,470 stop 2813 02:45:07,590 --> 02:45:10,920 from what you're seeing right now I get the impression that 2814 02:45:11,040 --> 02:45:14,190 your mind already is made up as a black person, 2815 02:45:14,730 --> 02:45:19,140 I feel that I would if I were living in the Netherlands as a 2816 02:45:19,140 --> 02:45:24,300 black person, I would object to it. As as a, as a member of the 2817 02:45:24,300 --> 02:45:28,230 working group, I'm obliged to do further investigation. But as a 2818 02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:32,070 black person, I believe that if I lived in the Netherlands and 2819 02:45:32,070 --> 02:45:34,230 saw this, that I would object, 2820 02:45:35,010 --> 02:45:39,570 that's how independent can your investigation be, then, if you 2821 02:45:39,570 --> 02:45:40,200 come here, 2822 02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:45,720 but we can move around, you're going to you're going to it to 2823 02:45:45,720 --> 02:45:49,320 find out if what people are saying is really what is going 2824 02:45:49,320 --> 02:45:56,250 on. If we find out that our or our, our information is wrong, 2825 02:45:56,460 --> 02:45:59,580 then we will change our position. But the information we 2826 02:45:59,580 --> 02:46:03,060 have at this moment, from the people from the Netherlands who 2827 02:46:03,060 --> 02:46:06,630 come to our meeting and who have been sending complaints to us is 2828 02:46:06,630 --> 02:46:11,040 that it is racist. It is a throwback to slavery, and it 2829 02:46:11,040 --> 02:46:14,220 should not happen that is a complaint that has come to us. 2830 02:46:14,250 --> 02:46:18,390 So we are going to see is this so or is this not so? But you 2831 02:46:18,390 --> 02:46:23,790 are right person, my personal view is that in the 21st 2832 02:46:23,790 --> 02:46:27,000 century, this should not be happening. It seems that 2833 02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:29,820 I just want it before we get to this NBA where she gives herself 2834 02:46:29,820 --> 02:46:34,860 away. This is a cultural issue that the Netherlands itself 2835 02:46:34,860 --> 02:46:39,810 needs to decide. And it is a relatively small group of people 2836 02:46:39,810 --> 02:46:44,070 who are complaining from the former Dutch colony of Suriname, 2837 02:46:44,070 --> 02:46:47,430 I believe, half of whom I think now live in the Netherlands. And 2838 02:46:47,460 --> 02:46:50,370 there is they have been the ones that have legitimately been 2839 02:46:50,370 --> 02:46:54,120 complaining. But somehow they got this this numbskull from the 2840 02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:58,560 United so called United Nations to write this letter on UN 2841 02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:02,220 letterhead. And you'll hear it well. You already hear that 2842 02:47:02,220 --> 02:47:03,060 she's Yes. 2843 02:47:03,480 --> 02:47:08,610 Well, first of all, if Black Pete is a function of some guy 2844 02:47:08,610 --> 02:47:13,530 who is covered with soot, I don't get it. I'm not getting 2845 02:47:13,530 --> 02:47:17,010 this this, suddenly you can be covered with soot and B 2846 02:47:17,040 --> 02:47:20,910 but it's irrelevant. Like Pete, it's irrelevant. If the if the 2847 02:47:21,210 --> 02:47:23,910 culture changes all the time, if the Netherlands wants to make it 2848 02:47:23,910 --> 02:47:27,840 orange, pea or green peat, they can figure it out. We don't need 2849 02:47:27,840 --> 02:47:32,220 the United Nations or throwing around someone's huge un Dick 2850 02:47:32,220 --> 02:47:33,450 trying to tell us what to do. 2851 02:47:33,480 --> 02:47:37,080 Our Prime Minister is walking away from from the problem. He 2852 02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:41,070 says there are these cultural groups who keep this festival 2853 02:47:41,070 --> 02:47:44,550 high. It's not it's not government orientated. So we can 2854 02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:46,140 do anything about well, 2855 02:47:46,140 --> 02:47:50,070 then if the government if the Government feels it is wrong, 2856 02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:52,380 then they should tell the cultural groups to stop doing 2857 02:47:52,380 --> 02:48:00,630 it. The Prime Minister is has the has the the power to change 2858 02:48:00,630 --> 02:48:05,040 policy, and to influence a group that are keeping up this this 2859 02:48:05,040 --> 02:48:09,780 habit, the prime minister saying it's not government policy, it's 2860 02:48:09,810 --> 02:48:13,080 up to these cultural groups, then the Prime Minister, if the 2861 02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:16,290 Prime Minister believes it's wrong, should then influence 2862 02:48:16,290 --> 02:48:19,710 these cultural groups. It's offensive. We don't we don't go 2863 02:48:19,710 --> 02:48:22,740 around saying or when people look like this or where people 2864 02:48:22,740 --> 02:48:26,190 look like that. We don't do that. We don't do that. And what 2865 02:48:26,190 --> 02:48:28,440 is wrong with the one Santa Claus? Why do you have to have 2866 02:48:28,440 --> 02:48:29,760 two Santa Clauses? There 2867 02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:35,280 you go. Showing that she's a total moron. She actually thinks 2868 02:48:35,280 --> 02:48:38,370 there's two Santa Clauses in the Netherlands, the one that comes 2869 02:48:38,370 --> 02:48:42,090 on the 25th. And then this racist guy, by the way, nothing 2870 02:48:42,090 --> 02:48:45,840 about no dwarfs and little people and cruelty to animals 2871 02:48:45,840 --> 02:48:49,770 and whatever else but Vern Shepherd, Miss Vern Shepherd 2872 02:48:49,860 --> 02:48:51,810 actually worked for the Institute of gender and 2873 02:48:51,810 --> 02:48:56,130 Development Study. She's a consultant, and she misuse this 2874 02:48:56,130 --> 02:48:59,730 letterhead because she happens to be a member of a working 2875 02:48:59,730 --> 02:49:03,720 group that's very similar to the Presidential Innovation Fellows. 2876 02:49:03,720 --> 02:49:09,000 Okay. What she really is a part of is the Caribbean nations 2877 02:49:09,900 --> 02:49:14,130 slavery compensation programme. And this is what she's after. 2878 02:49:14,130 --> 02:49:18,210 This is why she's a consultant. There is a movement to go and 2879 02:49:18,690 --> 02:49:26,250 this just happened in the UK. I had to pay money to descendents 2880 02:49:26,280 --> 02:49:29,850 of colonies for slavery. This is a new thing that's happening. 2881 02:49:30,900 --> 02:49:38,910 That I have it here. Mao Mao, was Mao Mao, John Mao, Mao, Mao, 2882 02:49:38,970 --> 02:49:41,670 Mao, Mao, was a British, 2883 02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:44,850 British or an Africa. I don't know what you're talking about. 2884 02:49:45,630 --> 02:49:50,370 The Mao Mao, is that Africa? Well, as well, it's all about 2885 02:49:50,370 --> 02:49:53,490 compensating people who were slaves. 2886 02:49:53,820 --> 02:49:55,920 They didn't compensate. They should make those some of those 2887 02:49:55,920 --> 02:49:58,950 African tribes who put these guys into slavery, compensate 2888 02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:59,970 him to cap 2889 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,570 But that's not how it works with the guilt. So what she's after 2890 02:50:03,570 --> 02:50:08,760 is getting money, I believe that is getting money for the former 2891 02:50:09,210 --> 02:50:11,220 Dutch colonies in the West Indies. Remember, she's from 2892 02:50:11,220 --> 02:50:14,040 Jamaica from the West Indies. So she stirred up this thing and 2893 02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:18,630 you have no idea how this got so out of control. There are people 2894 02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:21,780 yelling on television in Holland. There's there's there's 2895 02:50:21,780 --> 02:50:25,380 guys going like Santa Claus. It's fake children. I mean, it's 2896 02:50:25,380 --> 02:50:29,460 seven o'clock at night. Just to prove a point people are 2897 02:50:29,460 --> 02:50:34,050 freaking out about this. And everyone has an opinion. And it 2898 02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:37,020 all started with this woman. I mean, it started a long time 2899 02:50:37,020 --> 02:50:39,660 ago, of course, but it's a cultural issue that the 2900 02:50:39,660 --> 02:50:42,690 Netherlands can change if they want but this this, this verge 2901 02:50:42,720 --> 02:50:47,910 Vereen, Verne, Vereen, Shepherd of the United Nations, you hear 2902 02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:51,000 how they come in? You hear how they talk, even though she has 2903 02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:54,360 no standing whatsoever? This is the stuff you got to be careful 2904 02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:54,600 of. 2905 02:50:56,910 --> 02:51:00,300 Interesting. All right. Well, I got a couple of things. You want 2906 02:51:00,300 --> 02:51:04,020 to wrap up? A couple of short items, if you want to hear 2907 02:51:04,020 --> 02:51:09,480 something short. Yeah. Well, let's see. There's a 2908 02:51:10,290 --> 02:51:13,050 environmental media awards were given out with a bunch of 2909 02:51:13,050 --> 02:51:15,870 celebrities. But here's the here's the other one. You heard 2910 02:51:15,870 --> 02:51:19,770 about the Face Book and the beheadings videos? Yeah, I've 2911 02:51:19,770 --> 02:51:21,150 heard it. What is this all about? 2912 02:51:21,450 --> 02:51:24,510 Facebook announced today, it's working on new ways to warn 2913 02:51:24,510 --> 02:51:28,920 users about graphic violence on its site. Social media giant 2914 02:51:28,920 --> 02:51:32,310 issued the statement after an uproar over videos that show 2915 02:51:32,310 --> 02:51:36,510 beheadings, Facebook banned such videos in May but recently 2916 02:51:36,510 --> 02:51:38,460 lifted the prohibition Yeah. 2917 02:51:39,540 --> 02:51:42,690 No sideboob. But you can't 2918 02:51:42,690 --> 02:51:45,540 have site booze? Yeah, there's a bunch of things they won't let 2919 02:51:45,540 --> 02:51:47,700 you do on Facebook, which is another reason not to be a 2920 02:51:47,700 --> 02:51:52,260 member. But what is the thing would be headings, you got to 2921 02:51:52,260 --> 02:51:55,410 have a unit of air. This is you know, this all infidels should 2922 02:51:55,410 --> 02:51:57,810 have their heads chopped off here. Let me show you a video. 2923 02:51:58,410 --> 02:51:59,550 It's disgusting. It's 2924 02:51:59,550 --> 02:52:02,880 great. I think we should do that here. And Why kill people with 2925 02:52:02,880 --> 02:52:05,430 an injection? That's No, that's no good. 2926 02:52:05,850 --> 02:52:07,680 Maybe that's what the French had. That's why they invented 2927 02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:10,560 the guillotine. Always, always work. You didn't have the 2928 02:52:10,860 --> 02:52:14,220 incompetent head shop. And it's Quist a couple of times. And 2929 02:52:14,220 --> 02:52:16,080 it's quick. Yes. 2930 02:52:16,740 --> 02:52:19,260 It's quit in a bucket. What state 2931 02:52:19,380 --> 02:52:21,990 was talking about bringing back the gas chamber because they 2932 02:52:21,990 --> 02:52:27,570 can't get the drugs? No. It's hard to get lethal injection 2933 02:52:27,570 --> 02:52:28,380 drugs anymore. 2934 02:52:28,529 --> 02:52:32,039 Yeah, because they're contaminated. Yeah. Yeah. 2935 02:52:32,699 --> 02:52:35,729 And people die really slowly and horribly. I think the good 2936 02:52:35,729 --> 02:52:37,139 guillotine is a good idea. 2937 02:52:37,320 --> 02:52:40,200 So I have a clip of the you know, the woman behind Obama 2938 02:52:40,200 --> 02:52:42,810 that passed out as a news story that's been floating around and 2939 02:52:42,810 --> 02:52:45,450 everybody's seen it and it's about the patch on the back of 2940 02:52:45,450 --> 02:52:48,870 her arm and all this other stuff. I have a clip that has 2941 02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:52,620 one little tidbit of information that got my attention. And I'm 2942 02:52:52,620 --> 02:52:55,470 going to doesn't ask him you have to tell me what little 2943 02:52:55,470 --> 02:52:59,160 tidbit in this clip got my attention. 2944 02:52:59,580 --> 02:53:02,190 President Obama had to pause near the end of his remarks when 2945 02:53:02,190 --> 02:53:04,140 as you can see this woman standing behind him there on the 2946 02:53:04,140 --> 02:53:07,440 read nearly fainted. Carmel Allison became a little wobbly 2947 02:53:07,440 --> 02:53:10,980 after 25 minutes of standing. In a telephone interview this 2948 02:53:10,980 --> 02:53:13,980 afternoon, Allison said dehydration as well as being 2949 02:53:13,980 --> 02:53:16,320 diabetic and pregnant all took their toll. 2950 02:53:17,039 --> 02:53:19,679 And 20 weeks pregnant at this point, and I hadn't had that 2951 02:53:19,679 --> 02:53:21,659 much to drink that morning because I was worried about 2952 02:53:21,959 --> 02:53:24,509 possibly needing to go to the bathroom during the speech. So I 2953 02:53:24,509 --> 02:53:27,479 wanted to avoid that. And then just as the sun hit me, I got a 2954 02:53:27,479 --> 02:53:30,779 little bit lightheaded. But everything is okay now and back 2955 02:53:30,779 --> 02:53:31,409 to normal. 2956 02:53:32,400 --> 02:53:34,980 She won't forget that visit to the White House. She was treated 2957 02:53:34,980 --> 02:53:38,010 by the White House physician. The President joked This is what 2958 02:53:38,010 --> 02:53:41,640 happens when he talks too long. Ellison lives in San Diego. She 2959 02:53:41,640 --> 02:53:44,520 graduated from UC Berkeley. She was there representing the 2960 02:53:44,520 --> 02:53:46,410 American Diabetes Association 2961 02:53:46,410 --> 02:53:47,190 at today's event. 2962 02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:51,270 Well, there's a couple of things. And this is one of those 2963 02:53:51,270 --> 02:53:54,780 things. I typically stay away from it because it's such Oh, 2964 02:53:54,780 --> 02:53:56,400 she's playing with the teleprompter. 2965 02:53:58,380 --> 02:54:01,890 So the teleprompter could be there. Let me 2966 02:54:02,849 --> 02:54:05,369 let me let me give you my view. And then I want to hear what you 2967 02:54:05,369 --> 02:54:10,199 have to say. I clearly saw the woman next to her nudge her, 2968 02:54:10,649 --> 02:54:15,419 like give her an elbow. Just before it happened. I have no 2969 02:54:15,419 --> 02:54:18,719 idea how the President knew what was happening. I looked over I 2970 02:54:18,719 --> 02:54:21,389 didn't didn't see anyone say anything. There was a 2971 02:54:21,389 --> 02:54:25,259 teleprompter because I saw the teleprompter in the Rose Garden. 2972 02:54:25,379 --> 02:54:25,739 Oh, 2973 02:54:26,220 --> 02:54:27,690 there's always a telephone. Yeah. 2974 02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:32,370 I frankly, I don't give a shit. But I'm interested to hear what 2975 02:54:32,370 --> 02:54:32,880 you have to say. 2976 02:54:33,330 --> 02:54:39,450 University of California Berkeley. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, 2977 02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:43,380 spook Central. Yeah, 2978 02:54:44,130 --> 02:54:45,690 yeah, I hadn't I hadn't heard that one. 2979 02:54:46,770 --> 02:54:48,630 Yeah, I've only heard it on that one report. 2980 02:54:48,660 --> 02:54:51,960 She actually doesn't even have Obamacare. 2981 02:54:53,340 --> 02:54:55,440 She doesn't she doesn't she doesn't need it. She had the 2982 02:54:55,440 --> 02:54:56,100 White House 2983 02:54:56,130 --> 02:54:58,620 Doctor helper. She has she has health care. 2984 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,400 As healthcare from the agency, yeah. 2985 02:55:03,000 --> 02:55:05,550 Speaking of which, the Free University of Brussels is 2986 02:55:05,550 --> 02:55:09,630 starting a study if you are a stutterer. Guess what we're 2987 02:55:09,630 --> 02:55:12,300 going to try and give you now. Money Ritalin. 2988 02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:16,440 Oh, yeah, that makes you stutter twice. This 2989 02:55:16,650 --> 02:55:20,130 might work. It might work. Alright, so stuff I'm working on 2990 02:55:20,130 --> 02:55:27,060 for Sunday. There's a lot going on with about the Silk Road. 2991 02:55:28,650 --> 02:55:34,680 It's it seems more and more like something is wrong with this 2992 02:55:34,680 --> 02:55:37,710 bust. We have not heard anything that 2993 02:55:38,310 --> 02:55:40,290 they're trying to sweep it under the carpet. 2994 02:55:40,320 --> 02:55:44,700 Well, either that or there is a there's a whole Reddit right 2995 02:55:44,700 --> 02:55:54,150 now. Where the discussion is that it's possibly a hoax by 2996 02:55:54,180 --> 02:55:58,830 multiple multiple people involved, including some people 2997 02:55:58,830 --> 02:56:02,250 from Gawker, actually, in fact, if you look at the two people 2998 02:56:02,250 --> 02:56:05,580 who've done any reporting on Silk Road is the guy from Forbes 2999 02:56:05,610 --> 02:56:09,780 and the and a guy from Gawker. And if you wanted to steal a 3000 02:56:09,780 --> 02:56:13,200 whole bunch of bitcoins from somebody, the way to do it, of 3001 02:56:13,200 --> 02:56:16,710 course, is to have a whole bunch of bitcoins in escrow, and then 3002 02:56:16,710 --> 02:56:21,900 shut it down. I don't know. No, I'm 3003 02:56:21,900 --> 02:56:24,900 okay. Well, I'm sure you'll have more on this. I have dug into 3004 02:56:24,900 --> 02:56:28,530 the because it's just galls me, because I get and I brought this 3005 02:56:28,530 --> 02:56:31,410 up in a couple of those at a meeting the other day and some 3006 02:56:31,890 --> 02:56:34,380 buddies, is this a meeting when you were texting me and I had no 3007 02:56:34,380 --> 02:56:35,640 idea what you're talking about? 3008 02:56:35,850 --> 02:56:39,900 Yes. So I bring it out here, I've got to the bottom of kale 3009 02:56:42,810 --> 02:56:45,810 comes out of the out of a group out of the public relations 3010 02:56:45,810 --> 02:56:49,350 agency that promotes kales out of the UK, I'm found a an 3011 02:56:49,350 --> 02:56:52,710 American analogue, even though I have I have notes into the 3012 02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:56,370 agency to tell me but they won't say anything. And I found all I 3013 02:56:56,370 --> 02:56:58,800 found the talking points and everything else and you bring up 3014 02:56:58,800 --> 02:57:02,190 Kale with anybody. And they all go right down to talking points, 3015 02:57:02,190 --> 02:57:04,890 you could actually put a little card in your pocket and pull it 3016 02:57:04,890 --> 02:57:08,460 out and show him that what they just told you is right off the 3017 02:57:08,460 --> 02:57:11,610 list. Oh no. And the top of the list is of course, as soon as 3018 02:57:11,610 --> 02:57:15,930 you bring up Kale with anybody who's been propagandised by why 3019 02:57:15,960 --> 02:57:21,750 anybody would promote this inedible piece of crap. brassica 3020 02:57:21,750 --> 02:57:24,240 is beyond me. But they all say the same thing. Right off the 3021 02:57:24,240 --> 02:57:26,850 bat. The first thing they say is super food. 3022 02:57:26,939 --> 02:57:30,629 Oh, really? Yeah. Super food. 3023 02:57:31,230 --> 02:57:34,050 Yeah, they all say it is amazing. It's astonishing how 3024 02:57:34,050 --> 02:57:36,690 many people will throw that immediately right back. And they 3025 02:57:36,690 --> 02:57:39,120 will tell you how great it is. They don't cook it. They never 3026 02:57:39,120 --> 02:57:43,740 use it. But they also have their opinion of it. I believe that 3027 02:57:43,740 --> 02:57:47,610 the whole thing is is to lead us into making a normal vegetable. 3028 02:57:47,790 --> 02:57:50,370 One of the things that we're going to be eating commonly 3029 02:57:50,730 --> 02:57:53,910 cavalo Nero. And I'll leave it at that. 3030 02:57:53,939 --> 02:57:56,309 I'm sorry. What did you what was that? What did you say? cavalo. 3031 02:57:56,309 --> 02:57:56,699 Yeah, 3032 02:57:56,730 --> 02:57:59,070 you've never heard of it. Have you? Is that what putting it in 3033 02:57:59,070 --> 02:57:59,730 the Red Book? 3034 02:57:59,760 --> 02:58:01,530 Is that what kale is cavalo Nero 3035 02:58:01,770 --> 02:58:05,130 de valo Nero is also known as dinosaur kale or black kale is 3036 02:58:05,130 --> 02:58:07,500 out of Tuscany and it's actually edible. 3037 02:58:07,769 --> 02:58:11,609 Okay, but where's the angle? Is this a really cheap vegetable 3038 02:58:11,609 --> 02:58:14,399 that is being sold as some douchebag a superfood to make a 3039 02:58:14,399 --> 02:58:15,029 lot of money, 3040 02:58:15,150 --> 02:58:18,120 not the Kabbalah Nero That's an expensive one the regular kale 3041 02:58:18,120 --> 02:58:20,490 is that let's face it, try cooking it this week. 3042 02:58:21,060 --> 02:58:25,290 Now that we have I am as you know, not a big fan of kale 3043 02:58:25,290 --> 02:58:30,810 however, there is one salad that Miss Miki gets sometimes from 3044 02:58:31,050 --> 02:58:35,790 the twigs and branches shop, which that's what they eat over 3045 02:58:35,790 --> 02:58:38,670 there and twigs and branches. And she brings that home and it 3046 02:58:38,670 --> 02:58:41,940 has a particular dressing, which of course is what makes it work. 3047 02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:48,420 That is delicious. And I'm going to what is the name of that I'm 3048 02:58:48,420 --> 02:58:49,980 going to I'm going to write I'm going to write it down on 3049 02:58:49,980 --> 02:58:53,130 Sunday. I'll tell you what it is. And that I find highly 3050 02:58:53,130 --> 02:58:55,950 edible somehow the combination with the kale in that dressing 3051 02:58:55,950 --> 02:58:57,750 works. It's almost like 3052 02:58:58,980 --> 02:59:02,520 this is the kind of length do you have to go to to actually 3053 02:59:03,660 --> 02:59:06,390 choke down? Yeah, 3054 02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:10,680 but believe me that women have bought into this as superfood. I 3055 02:59:10,680 --> 02:59:10,920 mean, 3056 02:59:10,950 --> 02:59:13,800 oh, no, they're all in on. They all say the same thing. When you 3057 02:59:13,800 --> 02:59:17,100 bring it up superfood. Is there any? Oh, it's delicious. They 3058 02:59:17,100 --> 02:59:18,630 all say is delicious. Is there 3059 02:59:18,630 --> 02:59:22,830 any evidence to this that it's a superfood or is it turns out 3060 02:59:22,830 --> 02:59:25,740 and I got to research, it turns out that they have studied 3061 02:59:25,980 --> 02:59:29,850 brassicas in general, which are the cabbage family, and the 3062 02:59:29,850 --> 02:59:33,660 cabbage family has all kinds of variants and they're all very 3063 02:59:33,690 --> 02:59:37,620 nutritious in every sort of way. Kale is just a member of the 3064 02:59:37,620 --> 02:59:42,000 family but it's been singled out as something special. When it's 3065 02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:49,680 not. It's the probably the most to the worst of the group. It's 3066 02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:51,870 the worst. It's the worst. 3067 02:59:52,050 --> 02:59:55,950 Can you mention five types of kale? Oh, there's black 3068 02:59:55,950 --> 02:59:58,530 kale. There's dinosaur kale, there's red kale, there's 3069 02:59:58,530 --> 03:00:02,820 Russian kale. There As in the Russian Red and the curly kale 3070 03:00:02,820 --> 03:00:03,750 and then the 3071 03:00:04,410 --> 03:00:07,980 grape kale is my favourite. Right? So cavolo nero the black 3072 03:00:07,980 --> 03:00:11,490 cabbage, that's the one of dinosaur cavalo Cabo, 3073 03:00:11,700 --> 03:00:15,270 that's the one and Kabbalah. I'm a big deal in the foodie 3074 03:00:15,270 --> 03:00:18,240 community. And I put my name on the initial the prediction. 3075 03:00:18,390 --> 03:00:20,880 Okay, well, and you've never heard of it, but you will know. 3076 03:00:20,970 --> 03:00:21,630 I see it in 3077 03:00:21,630 --> 03:00:23,580 the book of knowledge here. What? 3078 03:00:24,120 --> 03:00:26,130 This is what the whole kale thing is leading up to that's 3079 03:00:26,130 --> 03:00:26,910 why it's happening. 3080 03:00:28,350 --> 03:00:31,800 The whole thing is leading up to a new category. 3081 03:00:32,160 --> 03:00:35,910 Yeah. Nice arrow. It's it's apparently been eaten in Italy 3082 03:00:35,910 --> 03:00:38,310 forever. Okay. 3083 03:00:39,840 --> 03:00:43,890 Well, John, let me say in advance. Happy anniversary. 3084 03:00:44,310 --> 03:00:47,400 Happy anniversary to you, Adam curry. And thank you for your 3085 03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:50,340 courage. And thanks for your courage, Adam curry, 3086 03:00:50,400 --> 03:00:53,400 and thank you everyone who checked in on the live stream 3087 03:00:54,090 --> 03:01:00,090 and saying, sending karma there to Mr. Oil, who apparently has 3088 03:01:00,090 --> 03:01:02,490 been listening to the show while on morphine. 3089 03:01:03,270 --> 03:01:05,820 Oh, that must be an experiment. He shouldn't be sharing 3090 03:01:05,820 --> 03:01:10,410 is what I'm thinking. All right, everybody. Well, that'd be 3091 03:01:10,410 --> 03:01:14,700 exciting on Sunday, celebrating our sixth anniversary. Please 3092 03:01:14,700 --> 03:01:19,170 remember us at devora.org/na a sack of sixes would do just 3093 03:01:19,170 --> 03:01:24,540 nice. Don't be a Black Pete. Coming to you from the capital 3094 03:01:24,540 --> 03:01:27,810 of the drone star states. Austin, Texas in the morning, 3095 03:01:27,810 --> 03:01:29,220 everybody. I'm Adam curry, 3096 03:01:29,400 --> 03:01:31,710 and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's actually garbage 3097 03:01:31,710 --> 03:01:33,060 today. I'm John C. Dvorak. We 3098 03:01:33,060 --> 03:01:37,410 will talk again on Sunday. When we move into our seventh year 3099 03:01:37,410 --> 03:01:39,840 right here on no agenda. 3100 03:01:47,250 --> 03:01:52,200 We've got to focus on the macaroni and cheese issues. And 3101 03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:55,380 that's how will impact the macro issues of 3102 03:01:59,730 --> 03:02:03,480 devora.org/n A