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Mainstream flood.

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Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak.

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Sunday, December 1 2013. Time
for your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 570.

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This is no agenda guarding the
realities

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of FEMA Region six from the Java
side tight out in Austin, Texas

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in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry and from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's

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actually really a holiday we're
working on John C. Dvorak.

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Buzzkill.

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Still holiday? Yeah, we're still
working the holiday actually

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the day that nobody listens.

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It's actually worse than
Thanksgiving. This

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is actually in the numbers.
Prove It, John before.

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Yeah. Before we do anything. The
entire citizenry of Gitmo nation

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needs to know how your apple
dressing turned out.

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Actually, it turned out quite
well. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's

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a substitute perfect substitute
for people who like a variety

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tasty sage, you know, infused
dressing, normal dressing, but I

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would say as the substitute with
one correction to my recipe,

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which I will publish in the next
newsletter for anyone

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interested. Maybe Christmas.
Yes,

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full transparency, as usual. Is
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the apples, which I used a
variety of apples, actually

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should be peeled. As opposed to
unpeel because there's the only

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annoying thing about the
dressing is the Apple peels.

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Right? Oh, they never saw them.

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Oh, you left them in there.
Yeah. Oh, hey, by the way, can

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you just check your Skype and
make sure you don't have the

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automatic stuff set on? Just to
double check on

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my, my variable? Yeah.

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beyond the usual Yeah. You're
always a little bit variable.

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This is the no agenda Show
episode. 570. Coming to you. On

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December the first 2000

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No, I uncheck these boxes. But
there they are. Again, Check.

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Check. Now I know they check
themselves but it's Skyrim

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Check. Check in you. Yeah, Skype
all just wants to do that. It

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wants to reach out. I don't know
why. I have the same thing. I

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don't know why it does that. It
makes no sense. Other than

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listen, you stupid user. You
don't actually want to do that.

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Don't worry. We'll fuck it up.
Next time we you start our

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programme. That's the thing
right,

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unchecked?

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Well, I'm glad you asked. Yes.
My Thanksgiving was weird.

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I'm glad you asked. Yeah, I said
I was unchecked. I

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know you didn't ask. But I
wanted to move. I wanted to get

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to get to my thing. My size

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on with the show.

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Have you not this? This was the
first year that I came to the

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realisation I was one of the sad
people.

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Oh, you poor baby. I'm actually
I'm one of the sympathetic one.

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So I was invited to

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to all by yourself,

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we will know the thing was when
I walked in, of course, everyone

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had kind of finished eating by
around like 230.

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Why would that set this up?
Before we go into this? You did?

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You're not there's new listeners
or somebody missed the last

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show.

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All right. So Miss Mickey was,
that's my wife. If you're really

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new to the show.

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She a little that's dropping it
back a little notch. Just

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letting you know. So Mickey was
in Los Angeles. She was working.

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And and you know, she's not
American. And she, you know, did

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we do Thanksgiving, but she's
like, Yeah, whatever. That's it

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basically doesn't care. And I
didn't think I would care

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either. And normally, I don't
think I would, but I was kind of

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like, well, what am I going to
do? And so I was invited. I had

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multiple invitations, but I got
invited by some friends and they

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said come on over and then you
we'll take you to the UT game

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afterwards and whatever. Okay,
so I had actually prepped

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perfectly it asked you what what
wine should I bring? You said

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no, no, bring champagne. And you
know, I got the right champagne.

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But because of the post
production of the show, I wasn't

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there until for you know, not
just post production that like I

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wanted to shave and I was a
mess. I'm a mess after the show.

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I'm a fit. I don't know about
you, but I'm a mess and I smell

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as bad. How about you

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know, I actually take a shower,
I clean up I put a little

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bronzer on. Comb my hair a
little

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busted. Now that that's when you
go to twit when you put the

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bronzer on. Okay, so, exactly.
So I'm cleaning so I'm there.

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It's not that far away. But you
know, so but I'm there at four

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and I'm walking in and you can
see everyone's like, bellies

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full. They're all tucked out and
I can see like it was all what

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was this this was that you were
invited to a Thanksgiving lunch

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apparently because there was a
game and I'll get to that. And

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this was the house of a former
Dell guy he's now at UT you

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know, but for me so nice house.
I mean, this is like whoa,

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hello, some Just had been 30
people, and I and the minute I

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knew a number of them were like,
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riffraff and losers with no
family congeal. I was like, and

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I'm walking in with two bottles
of champagne like, hey, and

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everyone's like, but and as you
know, I was promised cowboys and

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trannies. Well, well, well. The
cowboy who was an actual

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official oil land owning cowboy
with leg left almost the moment

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I came in, and he was the real
deal. This guy on a saw you come

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in. Well, hold on. He's so he's
so real cowboy. I have it here.

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He has a book out. You want to
Google this? Barbecue biscuits

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and beans. Chuck waggon. Cooking
forward by Tommy Lee Jones. This

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is how you can't get more Texas
cowboy than that.

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Like did Tommy Lee wrote that
for me? Yeah. i Okay. You got a

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shooting with Tommy Lee.

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This is built. Cobble. No Cliff
Tennant. Cliff tired

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with time, Heiner? Yeah. And he
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He was a real cowboy. But he had
to leave because he and I know I

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would only understand later that
he had to go do something with

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vivo. And I'm like, Okay, what?
I thought maybe he said Devo. He

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said vivo. I didn't quite know
what that meant. So anyway, then

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there was the actually it's not
fair to say tranny because I

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think she's transgendered. This
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yes, just totally spot on. and
lovely. But no one told me she

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was 70

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in the world of atoms fantasies

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wasn't exactly and she looked
good for 70 No doubt about it. I

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don't want to be a just like me.
No, I have had like a little

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different fantasy in my mind
going. Anyway, and the heating

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up a plate of food for me and
I'm eating and everyone's kind

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of like dribbling out. And so it
was really sweet that they

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didn't do. I think they're,
they're Jewish. So they also did

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a lighting of the menorah. And
I've never witnessed the

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lighting of the menorah. And
there's a song that goes along

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with it. And half the room
singing the song. And then and

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you're looking around, you're
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lips and pretend I know the
words. You know, one of those,

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like, have you ever heard the
lighting of the menorah song?

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No. One either. And I was like,
wow, okay.

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Well, I'm older than you. So you
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Yeah. When they was That was
nice. as nice. They shared that

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You know, this was the one time
and 5000 years I think

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770,000 years the next time Oh,
70,000 years from now. 7000 is

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the next time this will which

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by then I think Thanksgiving
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Okay, so then it was like
Alright, hurry up, we gotta go

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see the game. Now I had already
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And I had not been I have not
been to a live sporting event in

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40 years. I think the last time
was the Boston Red Sox when I

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was nine. So it may about 40
years I've never been to a

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stadium I've been to a stadium
for a concert but you know

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backstage or what a couple games
a year here and there and I've

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never been so I really can't
remember and

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that the University of Texas
would have to be a real

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spectacular.

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It really was this is we had the
stadium holds 100,000 people and

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it was almost full. It was it
was quite quite astounding. What

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I liked a lot so you know we
were dropped off to add no

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parking crap and you walk right
up. There's no like Gitmo

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security it's just like you got
your ticket go on and no like no

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no pat downs, no metal
detectors, you know, very low

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key. And then I was it was
pointed out to me what this vivo

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thing was are you familiar with
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You know, it rings a bell I
didn't bother to google it but

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that's our that's our cow. I
mean our steel right that damn

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cow

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steer with Yeah, they run him
out on that. It's not quite as

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cool as the one that they have
at the University of Colorado

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where they run a live buffalo
out on to the judge of the field

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and route and he goes off at 200
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back into his cage

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vivo vivo is a little slower.
It's just a

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big long horse steer that they
run it I don't know if they run

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it out. Do they run it?

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They yeah the will that is more
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not like oh this thing runs at
Full Tilt and they stays in the

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pan you know in the in the
corner there the stadium. So we

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have pretty good seats on the on
the 50 yard line. No box or

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anything. I like to do seats for
75 bucks and I was like wow,

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that's this is what a scam This
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cheap. Are you kidding cheap and

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so we played to the Texas Tech.
Now if you've never been to to a

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ballgame, certainly not a local
one. You don't know a lot of the

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traditions. And there's a lot of
things I had to learn which I

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was just interesting that you
know, I had never even heard of

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hokum i What? Everyone's like,
Oh, my cookers, Tucker's hook

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Hoko. My guess is because of
we're a long horn. And then we

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have this pinky and index finger
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That's kind of our thing.

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Yeah, the Longhorn salute if you
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sign of the devil.

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Yeah, exactly. So everyone's
doing that. I'm like, okay, and

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then and then we have we have a
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You know, our cheer. I don't
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to So one side of the stadium
goes tucks us and the other one

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goes, fight. This is so military
creative and militaristic. And

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there were a couple of injuries.
And, and I was, you know, first

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of all,

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they play taps during the
injuries or Well,

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you know what, while so the guy
was he was he was knocked out.

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It was a Texas Tech player. And
you could see him like he did

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this flip in the air landed on
his back and the guy was out.

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And so the his players, not just
Texas Tech, but the UT guys

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circled around him on one knee.
And like, what are they doing?

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Oh, that's like, out of respect.
Right?

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Now they're praying. That's what
it looked like. That's what they

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do.

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It was a little intense, you
know, as like, Ah, okay, so and

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then see what other weird Oh,
they got a penalty for

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unsportsmanlike behaviour. For
dancing in the endzone.

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Oh, they're cracking down on
this. Yeah, but

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it wasn't like outrageous. He
did a little high. No, it's

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it's very controversial amongst
sporting fans. As to what

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yeah, I'm not even a fan
Bentley's. Like, come on a

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little bit of celebration. Hi
stepped a bit. And we're all

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going nuts. Like, yeah. And then
you know, God, I know. I know.

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And so here's to just to round
out my experience, which

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included of course, the
University of Texas Drum Band,

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who did a fine medley of Stevie
Wonder and James Brown and other

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soul and r&b Classics.

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Did they have the Texas
tradition where at the end of

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the game of Texas wins, and I
believe they did in this game?

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41 To 16 to be exact? Yeah. Did
they have a tradition where the

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cheerleaders come into the
stands and blow all the fans?

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We left five minutes early. But
what the cheerleaders do do is

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each each time we score, they do
the number of points, they do

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backflips. So you know, so if we
score a touchdown, and they do

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seven backflips?

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Yeah, great. Yeah. Well, it's
like the Oregon duck. He does a

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push up. But he does a push up
of the cute cumulative score,

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every time they score some of
his score 49 points, he does 49

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Push Ups when they score again,
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So I could just see, you know, I
could really feel how this is

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the bread and games. You know,
when you when you approach this

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as an outsider, essentially, and
you get thrown in, in an

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awakened state. You see, the
similarities between the Roman

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Colosseum you just see it, it
could have been Christians and

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lions in there and made no
difference. Yeah, it was just

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like, Okay, this is for your
testosterone. The funny thing

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was, I'm with three gay guys.
And they're all testosterone.

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Dup is like, Whoa,

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there was this. There's been
studies, by the way, which is

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one of the reasons I always
advise people not if you have a

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losing team, like the Cal Bears,
for example. You don't really

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want to root for them. Because
it apparently there's been some

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studies that show that that
sincere fans who are even

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watching the game on TV have the
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the players on the field. So if
you have to show up, it's a big

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win. You know, you have the same
elation as a fan that you would

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if you were a player, and if you
just got your ass handed to you,

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you would have the same
depressed feelings. So you want

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to find a team that wins a lot
for your own health.

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Yeah, exactly. It Yes. And to
round out my experience, two

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seats down a lady died.

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wish she had Red Raiders fan.

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No, she, she was young and she
was there with her husband and

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their daughter and the daughter
must have been you know, mid

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20s. And she she you know, she
just and she just die. I'm not

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sure what happened. But she was
dead. You know, when it was a

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dead

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woman? Yes. Yes. Just sitting
near you.

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It's like like two to two
things. Two steps down. Yes.

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So they brought out the medics
and all this and she was dead.

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She was a goner. Yeah, they're
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they're like trying to figure
out there's any breath and he

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pulses nothing and I've seen
dead people John, she was dead.

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In the end her kids freaking out
and her husband's like Like it

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was weird. And then yeah and
then they put her in the like

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the gurney and the or not the
gurney unlike a they have a

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special wheelchair so they can
get people out of the stands

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easily. And her head just
flopping back and let me that

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was disturbing.

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I would think so. Yes.

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On the other hand, two good
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And that was kind of nice. But
it was a good one. But it really

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did happen out and it was very
disturbing in a kind of have to

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say kind of ruined the vibe a
little bit. You know, you just

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kind of like looking down like

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he died in the first half or the
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halftime and so we waited
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Of course it was late but it
also got really cold to the

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whole thing like anyway, that
was my Thanksgiving and it was

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it was so it was it was an
interesting to witness the game.

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I felt very lonely I did
honestly. And Miss Mickey's back

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and she made me pancakes today
so all as well people all now

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let me

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you probably would have felt
less lonely if you knew anything

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about football. I know

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what do you mean I know tonnes
about football that this is

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Don't give me that I know how
the game works I'm into that I

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was into the the spirit and
everything. You know the lady

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dying was a little bit little
downer. And it was cold and I

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didn't know any I didn't know
all the all the all the customs.

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But I liked that. But the dinner
and everything was yeah, it was

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weird being alone and being kind
of like part of the alone group.

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You're in the alone group.
You're the fifth wheel. Yeah, a

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little bit a little bit. And
nobody cared about the champagne

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because you came late. Yeah, I
drank. Well, that was just a

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waste. I drank most

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of it. Ah, all right. So let me
get something out of the way

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real quick then because
everyone's emailing this. And I

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think that we might have a
possible to to the head

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situation here. And I wasn't
going to think it was it was

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anything at first, I'm talking
about Paul Walker, the actor who

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was killed in Los Angeles.

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Yeah, the Fast and Furious guy,

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right. Have you seen this
vehicle that he was driving? He

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wasn't driving he was in he was
it was a Porsche Carrera GT.

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Which exploded upon impact,
apparently.

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Yeah, this is another one of
those mysterious ISIS I thought

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this was odd to this is another
one of those mysterious wild

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explosions is similar to the one
that took out was his name

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Hastings Haskell was

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Hastings. Michael, here's what's
wrong. Look at the picture. I

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know. I owned a Porsche a long,
long time ago, a a 911 Carrera.

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Essentially the same car,
they've been making the same

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very little

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has changed very little 30
years. The gas tank is in the

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front. All right. Because the
engine is in the bag. There's

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not a lot of car unless they've
changed that

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known as probably still the same
design event, but it's in a

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bladder. But I think that gas
tank is very rugged. It's

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well of course the these are
cars that do rallies and this

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isn't there's not a lot of
difference between the and I

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think this was a racing version.
The driver was a race car

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driver. So this thing exploded
in the back the like the engine

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exploded. Are you kidding me?
Oh, is that right? Look at look

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at the pictures, the front end
is intact. The hood is still

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open the bonnet, I should say.
So, so that makes sense.

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And I didn't catch this because
I actually wrote it off. I was

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lacks I guess

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for this I did the same No, no,
I did the same. But someone

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tweeted, and I'm like, holy
crap, I'd forgotten about that.

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And then I and then I went
looking and of course it's hard

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to look now which is the whole
point. Attorney General Eric

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Holder is appealing a judge
ruling in his contempt of

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Congress case where he refused
to turn over documents relating

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to the Fast and Furious gun
walking controversy. And there

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is no better way to confuse the
public and to get their mind off

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of this than to kill someone
who's attached to a different

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Fast and Furious

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wow that's a good one and and I
admire that kind of oddball

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thinking but

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you know it's not that if you
really really really think about

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it and killing killing someone
for your own benefit is done all

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we we drone toddlers these days
who gives a crap? So why

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wouldn't like oh man and this
and this is like John, this is

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only like 10 days ago that this
came down. And he's trying to

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appeal and we can't have this be
news of course. So what's the

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best thing to do? We've already
seen how fast and furious when

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the movie came out, it also
covered up another piece of this

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saga. Remember that? No, the new
movie came out. And we and we

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talked about it and it had
basically, obviously, it's like

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a Google bomb. Now if you Google
Fast and Furious, you're not

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going to Well, let's try it. If
I just do,

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right, you're gonna get this is
a essentially a blocking

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mechanism. Yes. For Google
searches

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for anything for the just, it's
like changing the word gay,

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meaning happy and funny to
homosexual. It's changing the

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word so fast and furious. Paul
Walker dies Paul Walker, Paul

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Walker Wikipedia for the Fast
and Furious IMDb Fast and

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Furious. Let's see if he not
even on the first page. No,

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nothing on the first page. Let's
look for the second page, which

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is one of the biggest scandals
that has been ongoing. Fourth,

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what is it? No. Three
presidencies? Fasting and

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furious Fast and Furious is
always a different name under

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Bush. Yes, pretty sure. Yes, it
did. You're right. So not until

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the second page. There's some
book on Amazon, which is let me

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see what it is. Fast and Furious
Barack Obama's bloody a scandal

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and it's shameless cover up. So
second page, below the below the

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crease, if you will online. We
should

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we reiterate for some of our
listeners who may have forgotten

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and some that don't know this,
about the case in Chicago, where

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the one guy was one of the
Sinaloa Cartel guys was busted.

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Yeah. And he blew the way he
actually the lawyers are going

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after the government for
discovery, based on the fact

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that Fast and Furious was a gun
running operation, to send guns

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to the Sinaloa Cartel to load
them up. So they could, so they

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wouldn't take over all the
Mexican gangs

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and the drugs, the drugs that
are being smuggled in? Yes.

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And we would be we would be
partners with them. And we

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wouldn't have to deal with all
these other crazy guys. And we'd

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have one group that we would
just work with them. And that

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would be good.

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You know what the weird thing
is? I think that if you went to

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the American American public, he
went on television and said,

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every Heil everybody, you know,
we got it, we got to beat we got

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a rule. So what we do we decide
to we're gonna partner with one

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of these Mexican agency we'll
call an age and Mexican

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agencies. And so we can run and
run everything. I don't think

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you have a problem with that, do
you? And we'd all go like now

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great. Don't you think? Don't
you think ultimately, it could

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be sold? We can sell anything to
the American public?

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Yes, up to a point. But the
problem is the talk shows and

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every because they're always
looking for material. Right? Try

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to cause it cause trouble. So
they'd be bringing this about,

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oh, it's on it's sinful. I'm
just here Huckabee. Right now

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since

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it's in them, we just pumped
those guys with some drug money.

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Everybody in anybody can be
bought.

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Right? Yeah, you could actually
do that

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I got this beautiful email,
which I'm, I'm considering

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whether to republish, it's too
long to read from one of our

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producers who really didn't in
the newsletter think we might

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have to, and he wrote this
beautiful explanation of how

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Iran and Iraq and Syria and how
all of that really fits

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together. And he reminded me
that, you know, Iraq and Syria,

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those are just those weren't
countries. You know, there were

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just drawings on the map that
the British made up,

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you know, so but we get says
it's all part of World War One.

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Yes.

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And so and we get it all into
our brain that these are

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countries and, and we don't
understand how we I don't think

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we can comprehend he had a
pretty good line about it, how

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you could get a knife in the
back from some guy whose great

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grandfather was disrespected by
your great grandfather. That's

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how that's how the culture is in
majorities of the Middle East.

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We have no concept of that we
have concept of love and

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happiness and peace and unicorns
and rainbows and and you know,

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we're not we're not trained that
way. But I think we could be and

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maybe maybe we should get a
little bit of that or at least

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study what's going on with other
people so we understand it. I

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think it's the the not
understanding that confuses

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people the most you don't I
mean,

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yeah, well, that may be the
reason you want to dumb down the

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public so you don't have to deal
with make letting because

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understanding is is dangerous.

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I must mention that. Even though
my my Thanksgiving was not

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exactly optimal. Although I
thank everybody who made it fun

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for me. Luckily, you and I did a
great job of ruining Mickey's

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Thanksgiving because she
listened to the show before

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their Thanksgiving dinner. And
and I think the talk about the

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butter ball and the white goop
that comes out of the salmon

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that put her Oh and the turkey
they had this turkeys like I'm

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not eating that was like a
butterball special.

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That stinks.

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She was so put off by it.
Because you ruined your thanks.

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Ruined my ruin my Thanksgiving
dinner.

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White goop that comes out of the
salmon. The salmon stinks. Yes.

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Hey, yeah, happy. The AIDS day.
Yeah, AIDS Day Happy age today.

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I truly wish that that the
pharmaceutical industry stops

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ruining lives of people and
killing them with a lot of their

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solutions. And we we figured out
what's really going on here and

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people awaken to that That's my
wish. And I commemorate and

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remember the people who have
died of HIV and actually of AIDS

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who I have lost. But today is
not just AIDS day. Today is a

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start of national impaired
driving Prevention Month by

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presidential proclamation and
minority Enterprise Development

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Week. I wonder what that is

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they go hand in hand.

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What is minority Enterprise
Development Week? Huh? Just a

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week this week we celebrate of
Yeah, I know. Hey, minorities,

443
00:26:20,670 --> 00:26:23,880
you got a week. We celebrate
America's minority enterprises

444
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,880
renew our commitment to helping
them grow and look with pride

445
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,700
towards the promise of the
future. Thank you, Mr.

446
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:35,790
President. Very nice. Well,
then, I guess all I can say is

447
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:38,490
in the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.

448
00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:43,470
already. Yeah. Okay. Well, in
the morning, you Adam curry in

449
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:45,510
the morning all ships and sea
boots on the ground feet in the

450
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:48,540
air subs in the water and all
the games and all the nights out

451
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:49,350
there. And I'd always like

452
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:51,630
to say in the mornings everyone
in the chat room, no agenda

453
00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:54,900
stream.com. No agenda chat
dotnet in the morning to El Cid

454
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:59,040
computador, who got kicked out.
kicked out of the chat room.

455
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,210
Why did El Cid computador get
kicked out of the chat room?

456
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:06,480
Because he was saying this is
boring. Move on with the show?

457
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,030
Oh, well, that's the that's the
legal approach. If you start

458
00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:14,460
complaining about the show, you
get kicked out get kicked out of

459
00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:19,020
the chat room. It's not boring.
No, it was boring. I'd say it

460
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:21,720
was boring or historic. Adam was
says well, Adams says it's

461
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,360
boring at the drop of a hat. But
I'm a little more liberal.

462
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,460
Oh, by the way, I just got an A
note. Apparently, the Carrera GT

463
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:33,750
is a mid engine. So that may put
the gas tank

464
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:37,770
No, no, no, it's a Yeah, it is a
mid engine which is that's what

465
00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:39,990
they call it tip. But it's
indications right behind the

466
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:43,500
seat. But it's for all practical
purposes. If you open that back

467
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:45,150
thing up, there's your engine,
right?

468
00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:46,860
Where's the gas tank on that
thing?

469
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,460
Well, let's do that. Let's
consult the book of knowledge.

470
00:27:53,190 --> 00:28:01,620
worshop U r s is it sch E.
Carrera ca r r e r a I believe?

471
00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:07,890
Yeah, see gas tank location.
That would be my Google search.

472
00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:09,840
Trying to learn Google.

473
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,750
Do you have it? It looks like
it's in might be in the back

474
00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:13,290
actually.

475
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,530
If it's in the back that would
be surprising. Because

476
00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:20,280
it was surprised me too. I'm so
sure it was in the front. I

477
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,260
can't Did you find it? I can't
find it. I'm

478
00:28:22,260 --> 00:28:26,550
looking right now. There's a
fuel pump there and there's a

479
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:30,240
guest think it was his gas tank
location.

480
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,940
It would need a fuel tank
somewhere.

481
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:37,260
It's in the front. Yeah, it's in
the front. That's what it looks

482
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:37,680
like

483
00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:39,750
I cuz I thought it was I'm
pretty sure the gas had

484
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:42,660
that back if you here's the
back. Here's a look at the video

485
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,320
I'm looking at images. Image of
the back if you open the lid,

486
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,200
there is a engine there. The mid
engine used to be sitting on top

487
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,500
of that rear axle. It's not
hanging off the back like a

488
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,960
dragster. Right. So

489
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,790
the wiki PDS is not telling me
where the gas tank location is.

490
00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:03,150
Here's a

491
00:29:03,150 --> 00:29:06,000
picture of the of the bonnet
which is in front it's right

492
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,340
under the tire. There's a gas
tank big giant gas tank not much

493
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:15,870
room in this thing. Yeah, I
don't know who it is mid mid

494
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:20,040
engine is mid engine. It's not
like a Ferrari mid engine, which

495
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:22,170
is literally where your elbow
is.

496
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,230
So you know and there were all
kinds of like speed tracks

497
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:31,140
everywhere like they'd been
pulling doughnuts and stuff I'm

498
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:33,510
thinking they were dodging the
drone is what I'm thinking

499
00:29:33,630 --> 00:29:38,070
they're trying to outrun it just
you laugh

500
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:42,630
why would they know a drone was
on them when they have the

501
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:47,160
electronics in the car BB BB BB
BB target lock target lock evade

502
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,090
evade evade.

503
00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:51,210
Yo you Yes. Crap.

504
00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:54,840
Don't is because the guy was
showing off the car

505
00:29:59,070 --> 00:30:01,740
that no this was I'm getting all
kinds of messages. Like I

506
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:07,290
literally have text messages
flying. Apparently, the news of

507
00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:12,780
his death came out before it
happened yesterday. Okay, but we

508
00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:14,760
need a little more time to look
into this, but

509
00:30:16,109 --> 00:30:19,589
this is the kind of stuff that
so this is all obfuscation.

510
00:30:19,829 --> 00:30:26,009
Yeah. But now the information is
especially if this was some evil

511
00:30:26,009 --> 00:30:30,389
doing your drone which is the
more interesting possibility.

512
00:30:30,779 --> 00:30:35,009
Maybe this is taken target to
potshots at people. Well yeah, I

513
00:30:35,009 --> 00:30:37,979
mean that guy doing donuts down
there last blow them out of

514
00:30:37,979 --> 00:30:39,539
there. But listen,

515
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,540
we have these cars exploding on
impact. Yeah, in the movies.

516
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:50,040
Sure. In the movies is just
really doesn't happen that often

517
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,610
John?

518
00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:53,460
No, I know. In fact, if you look
at most of there are a lot of

519
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:55,620
these you know, one man, we
leaked.

520
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,430
We fix it by now fix that with
the Pinto. Okay, you know, the

521
00:30:59,430 --> 00:31:02,280
exploding gas tank trick is old.
We fix that, don't you?

522
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,020
Remember? We have lawsuits about
that. So this isn't supposed to

523
00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:11,310
just happen. And it doesn't I
just I'm I'm hard pressed to

524
00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:11,970
believe it

525
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:15,810
wrong idea that we've actually
got active drones in Los Angeles

526
00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:20,340
Basin. Well, blowing people up
well, and they've been there's

527
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:25,920
been at least two dramas done on
various I think this is exactly

528
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,430
the plot. I think Castle had one
where the guy was blown up by a

529
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:30,240
drone. Yeah, this

530
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,450
is and this is the plot. And
we've had all these houses

531
00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:39,090
explode of natural gas leaks,
which is another thing which I'm

532
00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:43,320
sorry, the MythBusters who
everyone always thinks are all

533
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,340
this and that. And a bag of
chips. They couldn't even

534
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:50,460
replicate it. They were trying
to do the boring Jason Bourne

535
00:31:50,460 --> 00:31:53,730
thing where he blew up the house
with a gas. It's very difficult

536
00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:55,320
to blow up a house with gas.

537
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Yeah, you can kill people inside
a house with gas easily. Or

538
00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,610
lightly.

539
00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:05,010
Yeah, but blowing it up is not.
So. Yeah, um, I will take the

540
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:10,050
crackpot side on this that it's
a great way to distract from a

541
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,810
heated issue very hot, hot, hot.
With a court case and a federal

542
00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:20,400
judge against the highest person
in the justice department in the

543
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:28,560
country. The the Eric Holder for
lying or being in contempt was

544
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:32,940
being held in contempt of
Congress. That's a big deal. If

545
00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:36,660
he needs to hide something when
he's basically covering for his

546
00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:40,020
boss who was already in a weak
situation. I think an actor is

547
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:44,520
expendable. And maybe they you
know, maybe we tried maybe they

548
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,690
brought in the the Israeli spy
guy. I mean, we need news we

549
00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:49,710
need News News news. It'd be

550
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:51,360
a Hollywood crawl, you know,

551
00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:54,810
fuck it. Let a train go off the
rails. We need to do something

552
00:32:54,810 --> 00:32:55,440
people.

553
00:32:55,980 --> 00:33:00,450
Actually a train did go off the
rails. Yeah. Gee, curiously,

554
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,350
you don't say. So these I'm not
putting our government beyond

555
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:09,990
doing these kinds of crazy
things. That's all I'm smoke

556
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:14,160
everywhere for killed as train
derails. At least four people

557
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,010
were killed and 63 others
injured when the Metro North

558
00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:20,760
train in New York jumped the
tracks. On Sunday. Today.

559
00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:24,330
I am getting news from the chat
room that this particular

560
00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:27,390
vehicle is known to catch fire
when it crashes of the 90 or so

561
00:33:27,390 --> 00:33:29,820
crashes. There have been fires
and more than 30 of them yet

562
00:33:29,820 --> 00:33:34,740
fires. But they crashed
sideways. I don't know. It's

563
00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:36,840
look, I'm not a forensics
expert. We

564
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,920
don't know. We don't know.

565
00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:43,110
We don't know. But it is good
luck for holder isn't it? Isn't

566
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:46,140
that? Isn't he just going home
like oh shoot that sucks?

567
00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:51,480
Well, the way things are going
with the I mean, we do have a

568
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,660
new we the news came out, you
know that as they keep dribbling

569
00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:57,750
out the Snowden reports and the
latest one being of course, that

570
00:33:58,020 --> 00:34:03,510
they're using the information to
blackmail, which we said from

571
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:06,390
the very beginning of this thing
that the only reason you do this

572
00:34:06,390 --> 00:34:09,120
kind of data collection is to
blackmail people so you can have

573
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,410
political advantage. And we had
a clip which we didn't reprise

574
00:34:13,590 --> 00:34:19,320
around somewhere where they were
the holder in particular who's

575
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,100
already in trouble was asked
specifically if the information

576
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:27,840
collected by the NSA could be
used for political advantage by

577
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,110
one party or the other and
holder refused to answer the

578
00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:33,390
question in front of Congress
and said he'd has to answer it

579
00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:35,790
some other time. If you remember
that

580
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:38,820
if you were to label that clip
today what would you call it?

581
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:44,580
Holder something holder lies
again it would be something

582
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:45,180
apology

583
00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:48,060
Hold on let me risk holder risks
contempt

584
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:54,450
This is a tough one John.

585
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,550
Let's get holders name in it.

586
00:34:56,580 --> 00:35:01,140
Well, yeah, how many? How many
holder things Do you think are

587
00:35:01,170 --> 00:35:01,710
Amen

588
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:04,890
probably 10 And they're all
worth playing over again.

589
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,580
Oh second let me just I can find
this home I got I got a system

590
00:35:08,610 --> 00:35:15,270
oh here we go we have drilling
holder grassy demands apology

591
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:19,290
holder risk contempt risk
contempt of crumb once holder

592
00:35:19,290 --> 00:35:22,980
does it grilling holder apology
holder risk contempt at

593
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:23,940
Northwest

594
00:35:24,179 --> 00:35:25,589
they the risk contempt one?

595
00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:32,250
Okay, hold on a second, where is
it? Risk contempt? Would that be

596
00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:33,420
from 2011?

597
00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:44,550
To Time flies? Okay, it would it
would have to be after the after

598
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:48,750
Snowden first appeared? That
would be kind of a key. Okay,

599
00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:51,060
let me see 12

600
00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:59,640
Now, so this, this can't be it.
Holder risk Contempo see without

601
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,190
it, you never know, open? We'll
just try this one. If this isn't

602
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:08,130
it, then then we'll move on Hold
on a second ago,

603
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,060
that helps that they were not
aware of the tactics that were

604
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,940
employed as a result of that the
information that is contained in

605
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:17,520
that February 4. letter to you

606
00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:20,880
is fast and furious. This is it?
No.

607
00:36:21,149 --> 00:36:25,349
Oh. All right. Let me know.
We'll look forward for for the

608
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:25,739
next show.

609
00:36:25,770 --> 00:36:29,580
I will look for it and sits
around whatever the case.

610
00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:33,030
Yeah, as I was saying this is
you know, it's a big deal. We

611
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:37,170
have the president already under
a lot of stress. Not that it

612
00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:41,010
matters. I mean, he's in his in
his in, but I think now would be

613
00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:45,420
the time for Hillary Clinton to
to announce she's running.

614
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520
I think it'd be premature. Yeah,
really, one thing they're making

615
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,380
hay with is ready for Hillary
campaign. Right? Big time. So I

616
00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:59,100
get a memo every day and you
ready? If you can give us our

617
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:03,480
feed, give us $3 Give us $5
Because we got to talk Hillary

618
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,900
into running. It's important
that you run and it's with your

619
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:11,190
help. Because of you. She'll
make the decision to run we've

620
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:15,180
got to we've got to make her run
is the Dode she's not behind

621
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:19,830
this whole thing. I mean, dumb
to the rds Democrats to believe

622
00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:20,310
this.

623
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,660
Oh, well, I'm having dinner with
some tonight so we'll find out.

624
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:29,880
Oh, yes, yes, yes, indeed. I
don't know if I had mentioned

625
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,180
it. But tonight is our monthly
instalment. Oh, it's another

626
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:34,320
instalment Oh

627
00:37:37,890 --> 00:37:39,390
yeah, they come over to your
place No,

628
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:44,250
no, no that next time is our
place a tonight is I think

629
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:49,710
Lori's place and I'm well we'll
talk about later what I'm going

630
00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:50,760
to do well let's

631
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,870
play the Sarah Silverman clips
which is kind of the way

632
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:55,770
liberals think

633
00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:59,160
oh boy is this from the hurt her
special I

634
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440
didn't put in the really bad
stuff

635
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:05,250
because I actually caught this
special yes

636
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:08,670
you know maybe liberals are a
little more open minded a little

637
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:13,440
more progressive. You know maybe
conservatives are a little less

638
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,900
progressive a little more faggot
ish

639
00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:21,060
I saw that she went into the
whole thing about why pick on

640
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:24,570
the Republicans Yeah, it was it
was very it was very bigoted.

641
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,870
It was it was completely
bigoted. And there was no and

642
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:31,560
this is this is the left wing
approach to everything is like

643
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:33,870
point to finger tell everyone
else they're a bit bigots and

644
00:38:33,870 --> 00:38:37,710
then be bigot be the biggest
biggest of them all. Yeah, I

645
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,980
look up the definition of bigot.
By the way to understand it. I

646
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:41,340
found

647
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:45,420
that her entire special at some
points. Even Yes. Hard to

648
00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:47,820
believe even for Adam somewhat
shocking.

649
00:38:48,629 --> 00:38:51,629
Yes, some of it was pretty
gross. But there was a couple of

650
00:38:51,629 --> 00:38:52,979
one liners in there that were

651
00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:55,950
I laughed out very loudly and a
couple of things. Yeah.

652
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,350
That's what actually the only
reason I watched this that you

653
00:38:58,350 --> 00:39:00,480
know, this woman I've never
thought to her to actually be

654
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,680
that funny. Now Me neither.
She's She. I believe she

655
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,930
probably writes well for other
people to edit. So I said, I'm

656
00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:12,810
going to watch the whole it's
only an hour's short. I'm going

657
00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:16,230
to watch and see if I can if I
actually laugh, and I laughed

658
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:19,260
about it left a couple times.
There's a number of them that

659
00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:21,930
were quite the some of them were
pretty, pretty filthy. But it

660
00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:23,850
was like, Yeah, it's funny, but

661
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:31,410
but it was indeed a very it's a
perfect example of a radical

662
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,750
progressive person.

663
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:34,860
Yeah.

664
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:38,580
Yeah. Yeah. And it was it was a
little a little shocking at

665
00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:43,650
times. But also, I didn't know
she had I was just she had some

666
00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:45,990
funny stuff. I have to admit
there was this

667
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:49,590
is the funniest I've ever seen.
There was some dude jokes in

668
00:39:49,590 --> 00:39:51,660
there. That was just good. It
was like, oh my god, okay, you

669
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:55,530
nailed it. You nailed it. But so
this so that's why that's why

670
00:39:55,530 --> 00:39:58,770
that that that stayed for work.
Well, that particular thing

671
00:39:58,770 --> 00:40:01,860
didn't really bother me because
As you know, like, whether it's

672
00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:07,650
comedy, just comedy we've got,
oh, by the way, what I don't

673
00:40:07,650 --> 00:40:10,950
like is when she goes into the
hole, you know, Funny or Die,

674
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:14,070
and then you know about voter ID
and when she gets political

675
00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:17,340
outside of her show, just to be
political, and then then it's

676
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:19,650
doing the same material that
then it becomes a little

677
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:23,700
disturbing. You know, not like,
not like so here's the guy that

678
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:28,320
I'm, I'm just loving. I'm just
loving this guy. And I'd

679
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,630
forgotten how much I like him
because he's insane. And, but in

680
00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:36,300
you know, insane people and
children and drunks, they they

681
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:42,960
speak the truth. Kanye West. Who
is if you really want to dismiss

682
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,860
the guy, particularly now that
he's married, he has a kid with

683
00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:49,500
Kim Kardashian. They're getting
married. So that whole thing is

684
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,080
bizarre. But because of he's
weak minded. I think he's, I

685
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,270
mean, he's not dumb. But he's
just he hasn't. He has no

686
00:40:57,270 --> 00:41:01,560
filters, which I like. He says
stuff that comes out. And it's

687
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,400
like, oh, man, I'm glad someone
just came out and said it. So he

688
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,830
did this radio interview, I
think it might be in Miami or

689
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:12,090
Los Angeles. And a lot of people
are saying, Oh, he got schooled,

690
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:16,260
Kanye got schooled. He is that
guy again? By the way? Thank

691
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:18,600
God, I got Kanye, Jr.

692
00:41:19,770 --> 00:41:22,290
Where's he said some things that
I thought were right on. And I'm

693
00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:25,800
like, Yeah, you know, if all of
us could just be honest, from

694
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,760
time to time and just say things
and not be so politically

695
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,240
correct, then I can't believe
I'm actually promoting Kanye.

696
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:36,030
We don't get it like that. When
I tell you only seven black

697
00:41:36,030 --> 00:41:39,210
billionaires look at that
marginalisation and we feel like

698
00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:42,420
we happy because me and Rick
Ross got me back, or I got a

699
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:44,820
spread outside a couple of us
where they put a black

700
00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:48,300
president, man, let me tell you
something about George Bush and

701
00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:52,380
oil money and Obama and no
money. People want to say, Obama

702
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:55,020
can't make these moves. So he's
not executing. That's because he

703
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:58,350
ain't got those connections. But
people don't have the same level

704
00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:01,320
of connections as Jewish people.
Black people don't have the same

705
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,860
connection as oil people. You
know, we don't know nobody that

706
00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:07,860
got a nice house. You know, we
don't know, nobody would pay for

707
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:10,770
like that, too. When we doubt,
you know, that could just put us

708
00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:13,350
back or put us in a corporation,
you know, we ain't in a

709
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:16,650
situation can you guarantee that
your daughter could get a job at

710
00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:19,260
this radio station. But if you
own this radio station, you

711
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:21,570
could guarantee that that's what
I'm talking about.

712
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,300
Now. So and when he says that,
you know, black people don't

713
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:29,730
have the connections that the
juice I'm like, I gotta love the

714
00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:34,530
guy and I went back, and I had
to get his Hurricane Katrina

715
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:39,600
speech. Do you remember that?
He's there with Mike Myers. Do

716
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,630
you remember this, John? Yeah,
vaguely. It's just I just gotta

717
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:45,180
play it again. Because they

718
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:48,600
really I mean, yeah, I'm glad
you admire what he's saying. But

719
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,680
to me, it's just like, he's just
like a douchey. complainer. Yes,

720
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:54,630
he's got plenty of connections.

721
00:42:55,290 --> 00:42:59,430
No, no, come on. That's not
true. He has zero connections

722
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:00,150
off. He

723
00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:04,080
wouldn't be as far gotten as far
as he is. He's got he got it all

724
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,690
doing it over the internet on
his own website that he

725
00:43:06,690 --> 00:43:07,890
designed. I think so.

726
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,700
But the point is, he's talking
about real who really runs the

727
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,390
show. Now he's talking about oil
money. He's talking about

728
00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:19,320
Israeli lobby. I mean, he's
using Kanye words. He's using

729
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,190
Kanye words, but he sees what's
going on. And that's not bad for

730
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:27,120
people to hear that. But he gets
dismissed. So sometimes, even I

731
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,780
got to stick up for the guy. And
when I went back to it, so this

732
00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:34,830
was live and Mike Myers and
Kanye West of at the Katrina

733
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:37,740
telethon. There's which I these
things I already hate these

734
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:40,500
things by themselves already.
Because the water in the

735
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:41,880
blankets never gets to people

736
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:45,390
now over 25 feet of water where
there was one city streets and

737
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:46,800
thriving neighbourhoods, and
everyone has

738
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,750
this really we have to talk like
this as we're reading the

739
00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:52,110
teleprompter because it's so bad
and so sad. And we're so

740
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:53,340
fortunate. We're not dead.

741
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,660
They portray us in the media. If
you see a black family, it says

742
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:04,410
they're looting. See a white
family says they're looking for

743
00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:04,920
food.

744
00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:08,400
He's right John. He's right
that's what happened during the

745
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Katrina coverage. Black families
what the news will be there

746
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,020
looting white families that are
looking for food he's right.

747
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:20,130
And you know, it's been five
days because most of the people

748
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:24,360
are black. And even for me to
complain about I will be a

749
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,660
hypocrite because I've tried to
turn away from the teacher TV

750
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:31,470
because it's too hard to watch.
I've even been shopping before

751
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,710
even given a donation so now I'm
calling my business manager

752
00:44:34,860 --> 00:44:38,130
right now to see what's what is
the biggest amount I can give

753
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,330
and just

754
00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:42,000
always going completely off the
rails and everyone's like

755
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,700
telling Mike Meyers jump back in
there and then comes the beauty

756
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:45,030
part

757
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,850
that wants to do anything that
we can help with with the setup

758
00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:52,980
the way America is set up to
help the poor, the black people

759
00:44:53,070 --> 00:44:57,690
the the less well off as slow as
possible getting back on Red

760
00:44:57,690 --> 00:45:01,050
Cross is doing everything they
can we already He realised a lot

761
00:45:01,050 --> 00:45:04,710
of the people that could help
are at war right now fighting

762
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:07,950
another way and they they've
given them permission to go down

763
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:09,000
and shoot us.

764
00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:12,480
And subtle been even

765
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:17,010
Mike Myers goes right back to
the very funny but he comes to

766
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,700
the money shot.

767
00:45:17,730 --> 00:45:20,370
I mean, devastating as the
lasting damage to the survivors

768
00:45:20,370 --> 00:45:23,220
will to rebuild and remain in
the area, the destruction of the

769
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:26,130
spirit of the people of Southern
Louisiana and Mississippi may

770
00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:28,110
end up being the most tragic
loss of all,

771
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,660
George Bush doesn't care about
black people.

772
00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:37,890
And then they cut him off. Yeah.
I'm sorry.

773
00:45:38,399 --> 00:45:41,759
I think early Obama doesn't
either. So Well, no. And I

774
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,150
think that Kanye might even say
that. Anyway,

775
00:45:45,390 --> 00:45:48,360
that's right. You keep planning
about a machine. The problem is

776
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,870
he puts everything in racial
racial terms. But that's all

777
00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:54,540
that is not it's a machine
that's doing you know, it's like

778
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:58,320
a system or system if there's a
systematic problem, that's

779
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,010
different.

780
00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:10,140
Right. But he is speaking to a
very common denominator from

781
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:13,560
which he from whence he
calmbirth as well. You know what

782
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,040
I mean? Yeah,

783
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,770
well, he's just plays into the
hands of the machine to be the

784
00:46:16,770 --> 00:46:17,490
way I see it

785
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,660
now. Well, I think when people
hear we had a

786
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,210
you know, here was a guy's
telling it like it is okay,

787
00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:27,210
that's great. What difference
does it make, but okay,

788
00:46:27,569 --> 00:46:30,869
because no one else hears Dennis
Kucinich when they when he's

789
00:46:30,869 --> 00:46:31,529
telling them like,

790
00:46:31,650 --> 00:46:34,530
they were listening to him while
he until they robbed him, and it

791
00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:35,970
was routed by his own party.

792
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,150
No one know, John, no one really
listens it. We

793
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:42,330
were. He was talking. I never
said anyone was listening. This

794
00:46:42,330 --> 00:46:42,900
is my point.

795
00:46:43,170 --> 00:46:46,620
People when Kanye talks,
unfortunately, people listen.

796
00:46:47,070 --> 00:46:50,070
And so maybe this is how sad it
is. But maybe they get a little

797
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:52,890
inkling go, Hey, wait a minute,
maybe I should Google that. And

798
00:46:52,890 --> 00:46:55,200
you know, and then before you
know it, they see in the show

799
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,830
notes. Hey, what's the show that
has Kanye in it? And then all of

800
00:46:58,830 --> 00:47:03,180
a sudden there ain't no agenda.
To see my evil plan.

801
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,120
Well, you're an idealist today.
After being the loner. Oh, I see

802
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,150
what happened. yesterday. She
showed up she came home. Yeah.

803
00:47:13,470 --> 00:47:15,660
Let's, let's thank our Oh, we

804
00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:19,200
should shortlist right. We
started off and you went off the

805
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,730
rails? I did. And now we have
people to thank which our

806
00:47:23,730 --> 00:47:24,660
producers

807
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,870
which is very much the Hollywood
system yet, ironically enough,

808
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,400
your executive producer and he
sent in a note

809
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Mark workman I'm familiar with
his name. I think this this must

810
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200
put them into a knighthood
because I know he's supported us

811
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,830
before.

812
00:47:44,850 --> 00:47:47,700
Yeah, this does put him into
knighthood. It should be on the

813
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:51,420
on there. Hopefully. He's on the
knighthood list. Yes. Yes, he

814
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:56,430
is. I see my goodness and James
and Mark. He wants to he's

815
00:47:56,430 --> 00:48:00,300
actually a baron. He's the Baron
of gold's gold's

816
00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:07,440
Gulch, golf, golf. I really like
what he says. When he says he's

817
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,490
the Baron. No.

818
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:15,990
He's got his thing here. Oh,
okay. Six, two, and I think he's

819
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:19,350
a baron. Well, I do some
research on this who's gonna be

820
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:23,340
knighted? Okay. Because he's got
his black knight accounting

821
00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:23,760
here.

822
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:26,880
Well, a black knight.

823
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:30,900
He says he was passed. This is
not a black knight. He wants to

824
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:34,350
be a black knight. He's got his
accounting here. And it's

825
00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:38,760
indicates that he's a knight as
of this check, which doesn't

826
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,900
give him a black night.

827
00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:43,380
No, black night is only if if
you're on the list and we forget

828
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:46,320
to do it during the show.
Something like that.

829
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,900
But not it's our it means we
screwed up.

830
00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:52,680
Yeah, but but we don't do the
accounting, right. If you

831
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:55,650
send us all your accounting, and
then we give you the knighthood

832
00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:58,380
that you deserve. You're not a
black knight.

833
00:48:59,070 --> 00:49:00,690
You're so harsh, John.

834
00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:04,260
I'm just saying we have to have
rules. Because otherwise it

835
00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:08,910
demeans that was some of the
real you know, big shots, Dukes.

836
00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:12,900
Yeah, they get pissed off. And
he wants to be the bearer and

837
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,870
well when you get to bear in the
hood, then you'll be the bearer

838
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:19,500
and yeah, let's you've already
had a knighting and you need a

839
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:23,910
three I think to get Baron.
Anyway mark is in Dayton, Ohio.

840
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:27,180
And he says he's got his
accounting he says he wants a

841
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:35,610
jingle okay. He says Hillary
delicious which apparently is

842
00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:40,200
his favourite clip he's asked
for it before little girl yay.

843
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,220
Although it says DEA here
something I can't read the

844
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:49,260
little girl yeah, Hillary what
difference does it make? So

845
00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:51,330
here's the Hillary delicious
little girl yeah, what

846
00:49:51,330 --> 00:49:53,070
difference does it make you know
that one that what difference

847
00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:54,420
does it make? Which is Yeah,

848
00:49:54,450 --> 00:50:00,870
but I don't. I don't know if I
have that one handy. I don't

849
00:50:00,870 --> 00:50:01,560
think you have a

850
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,080
compliment I mentioned this to
people if you have a complicated

851
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,160
request, make sure to send it to
Adam in advance because I just

852
00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:10,680
want to get to know it. I don't
read the notes until the show.

853
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,530
I mean, I know I have the
Hillary somewhere but that was

854
00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:17,220
for a previous donation and it
wasn't requested again and it's

855
00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:19,950
not easy. I don't know I feel
bad that I wasn't ready for it.

856
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:24,420
Well, we can play it later. But
give them a give them the one

857
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:27,780
that really makes them laugh
which is delicious. It's almost

858
00:50:27,780 --> 00:50:27,990
too

859
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:33,660
delicious to believe my friends.
I got those. Okay.

860
00:50:35,220 --> 00:50:39,000
We'll we'll dig up the other one
and evergreen it. What

861
00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:42,120
difference does it make? I can
do it Hey, difference does it

862
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:42,990
make line

863
00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:46,440
of the day from the chat room?
John doesn't like Black Knights

864
00:50:49,230 --> 00:50:56,280
Carsten over Schwartz Nielsen in
Denmark. Hi, I'm Angie and

865
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:02,310
Yocum. You'll Hum I have to
support you during this fake

866
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:09,870
giving. With this five times
6969 donation at 348 45. I

867
00:51:09,870 --> 00:51:13,050
should become a knight and you
can call me sir Schwartz.

868
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:16,890
Schwartz, Schwartz,

869
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,510
says Schwartz would be one way
of saying I can only thank you

870
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:24,300
from the depths of my rebellious
soul. I've always found the

871
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:28,830
stuff in the media nagging my
mind like a splinter of decaying

872
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:32,850
phoniness. You guys are stellar
in proving that I was right.

873
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Keep it coming. Although I'm
sometimes a little behind in

874
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,810
listening to the episodes I've
always ahead when discussing the

875
00:51:39,810 --> 00:51:43,200
so called news from the
compromised media with friends

876
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,510
and acquaintances. Their
Schwartz of donation murmee

877
00:51:48,540 --> 00:51:50,880
Thank you very much and we shall
of course put you in the library

878
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,940
in the lineup for knighting to
become sir Schwartz looking

879
00:51:53,940 --> 00:51:54,510
forward to it.

880
00:51:55,380 --> 00:52:00,030
We got James Francis Francis
Francis James McClure chloro

881
00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:03,990
sends in a note text in honour
of my son's 29th birthday and

882
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:07,170
making the donation at 333 33 in
His name, His birthday is on

883
00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:10,290
November 29. This will be the
third time James has been an

884
00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:13,230
executive producer so with this
donation it becomes a night he

885
00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:17,700
lives in Austin and we met Adam
in the Hot Pocket store. That's

886
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,940
right 65th birthday is November
30. So this would be a big

887
00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:24,510
birthday weekend. We really
enjoy no agenda and we're happy

888
00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:29,160
to support the work you do and
then he's has a PF saying he's

889
00:52:29,220 --> 00:52:32,550
looking forward to the chilli
recipe. And he mentioned that

890
00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:36,510
his wife and many other Texans
that he knows think beans do not

891
00:52:36,510 --> 00:52:40,560
belong and chilli oh and income
compared to competent chilli

892
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,680
competitions nowadays even
though the one that I want it

893
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,180
with this rule did not apply.
You don't it's just beef. No

894
00:52:48,180 --> 00:52:54,510
beans. There's no beans if Deb
with the text I've

895
00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:57,690
ever used I have a confession to
make beans are

896
00:52:57,690 --> 00:52:58,470
filler what

897
00:52:58,589 --> 00:53:06,389
I made your recipe. Yeah. And
and I read it was it was right

898
00:53:06,389 --> 00:53:07,259
and I put beans in it.

899
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:12,090
And it was it's been years most
of the beans that I'm saying

900
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,000
that this had beans in it. So
it's not like I omitted them.

901
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:20,280
There's just an aside. I made
the recipe. And I decided I

902
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,460
would watch a movie which I
watched lots of movies with

903
00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:30,090
Mickey but never like stuff like
Pacific Rim. So I had a bowl and

904
00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:33,540
I'm watching on the couch and
I'm watching Pacific Rim. And

905
00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:35,520
you know and I'm like can
totally engrossed this movie go

906
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,160
back in the kitchen and get
something to drink. And I'd left

907
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,060
the gas on

908
00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:41,520
you burn burn

909
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:48,510
to a crisp was completely. I
heard like we know that. Oh

910
00:53:48,510 --> 00:53:53,760
crap, the gas is still on. So I
can't prove how good it was to

911
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,360
anybody.

912
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:57,120
You didn't have a bowl I had
Yeah,

913
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,880
I had the bowl on the couch and
then the rest have gotten taller

914
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,600
the empty bowl on the couch that
was eating I was eating a bowl

915
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:06,810
but the pan with everything
still when I made a big batch.

916
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,730
It burnt to a crisp.

917
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:13,320
Oh yeah, well that's a
fascinating story. He puts

918
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,840
mushrooms in his chilli which I
would not recommend with this

919
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,050
dish by the way mushrooms
provide natural naturally

920
00:54:19,050 --> 00:54:26,640
occurring MSG which helps with
the mouthfeel Okay, well that

921
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,750
was interesting. That was an
interesting at all. Anyway, so

922
00:54:30,750 --> 00:54:32,550
Jamie so just

923
00:54:32,610 --> 00:54:35,400
I'm sorry, you bring up your
damn chilli and it's

924
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,700
interesting. I'd say I burnt the
recipe and it's not interesting.

925
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:41,820
Exactly because you didn't get
you didn't have any feedback on

926
00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:47,010
the on the relative quality of
the chilli recipe onward. Onward

927
00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:54,450
to a dentist del Prado in
Littleton, Colorado to 2222. As

928
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:57,030
we ponder all these things,
which we should be thankful for

929
00:54:57,030 --> 00:55:00,150
this season, let me suggest a
few candidates. Cranberry Are

930
00:55:00,150 --> 00:55:06,390
you flavoured jello? Functioning
ballpoint pens and the French

931
00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:10,830
yes the French for it is so easy
to blame them for everything we

932
00:55:10,830 --> 00:55:17,160
dislike. Yeah, enclose a torrent
of two's I liked that

933
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,830
that's nice torrent of two's I
like that is that for making it

934
00:55:19,830 --> 00:55:21,540
rain or that just in general?

935
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:24,929
Well, he didn't say anything
about making it rain thank

936
00:55:24,929 --> 00:55:28,409
goodness keep the collectors
will obey and find writing is

937
00:55:28,409 --> 00:55:31,229
for me sent me a ballpoint pen
for the junkyard. Now about a

938
00:55:31,229 --> 00:55:33,749
double shot at common for men
and women in the armed forces

939
00:55:33,749 --> 00:55:37,619
are true heroes. Thank you for
your courage. All right, well,

940
00:55:39,689 --> 00:55:48,029
you've got karma and so that is
our executive and Associate

941
00:55:48,029 --> 00:55:53,879
Executive producers for show.
570 Of course, it's nobody's

942
00:55:53,879 --> 00:55:56,609
listening to the show today, and
hopefully they'll catch up to

943
00:55:56,609 --> 00:56:00,089
it. And maybe contribute a
little more on Thursday, which

944
00:56:00,089 --> 00:56:04,859
we show 571 And you go to divert
that org slash NHL

945
00:56:04,859 --> 00:56:08,369
network.com/and A no agenda
show.com and the no agenda

946
00:56:08,369 --> 00:56:12,539
nation.com There's buttons there
you can click on oops, sorry to

947
00:56:12,539 --> 00:56:13,109
help us

948
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,590
borak.org/n

949
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,860
A and always use help in the
propaganda department i e

950
00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:21,150
propagate our formula.

951
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:26,250
Our formula is this we go out we
had people in the mouth

952
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:42,750
I must say though, that that
Pacific Rim movie is is very

953
00:56:42,750 --> 00:56:46,740
much at its wonder summit didn't
do much better than it did.

954
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,130
Dad JC buzzkill Jr, feels the
same way they went to see it at

955
00:56:50,130 --> 00:56:54,540
the theatres at a big screen and
said that if you understood that

956
00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:59,220
it was just a mindless really
well done action movie. Yeah, it

957
00:56:59,220 --> 00:57:02,520
should have done really well at
the box shows. But Hollywood is

958
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,010
the one who gave up on it. They
said screw it. We're gonna lose

959
00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:07,890
our ass on this, but no money in
the marketing. Let's just skip

960
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:08,010
it.

961
00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:11,880
I also watched The Confessions
of a Dangerous Mind upon your

962
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,950
recommendation. Ah, and I'm
thinking it's total bull crap.

963
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,880
This guy in the movie is kind of
sad. And you're right George

964
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,430
Clooney produced I think
directed he's also painted as

965
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:27,900
the like the CIA handler. And if
this was you know, the movie

966
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:30,540
says this is based on hundreds
of interviews and they get like

967
00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:35,370
Dick Clark in there and stuff.
And it's personal journal. And

968
00:57:35,370 --> 00:57:38,160
it's bullcrap. You know, the
stories the way they go down

969
00:57:38,190 --> 00:57:40,950
bullcrap. It's just bullcrap.
This is a guy, and he's still

970
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:46,050
alive. This Chuck Barris. Yeah,
he's a fantasy. He's just

971
00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:48,630
fantasising. It's just making us
trying to make us like guys

972
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:54,900
insane. I think he was insane.
He was no CIA hitman. Bullcrap

973
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,960
that which made the movie a
little disappointing because and

974
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,090
I was like, Oh, really?

975
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,690
Well, I always thought I thought
the movie was more of a comedy

976
00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:06,000
and I liked it. I liked the
Clooney character. Clooney

977
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,590
always plays one of these guys
does is around him so much. But,

978
00:58:10,890 --> 00:58:14,520
yeah, okay. So you didn't think
it was even worth watching?

979
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:19,320
Yeah, no, it's not. No, I would
not recommend it. Okay, now, I

980
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,780
like it from a historical
television producer standpoint,

981
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:25,290
it's interesting. You know, if
that's kind of how the you know,

982
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:27,990
it's that feels kind of real,
how the show is get on the air

983
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:30,270
and how it came to be and, you
know, the board room and all

984
00:58:30,270 --> 00:58:31,590
that. And it's nice to see the

985
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:35,640
you know, what was interesting
in that movie to me. And I think

986
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,780
this had to do with Clooney and
and an homage to Hollywood. And

987
00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,410
I never noticed this before, but
they have a silhouette shot of

988
00:58:43,410 --> 00:58:47,310
Drew Barrymore coming to the
door. Yes. And it is the

989
00:58:47,310 --> 00:58:49,650
silhouette of the Barrymore
family.

990
00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:53,280
It's funny you say that that's
the opening of the movie. Yeah,

991
00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:56,310
yeah. And it's stunning. I
agree.

992
00:58:57,270 --> 00:59:01,650
It's like, holy shit. I had no
idea. She looks like John

993
00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:05,820
Barrymore, and all these other
very big chin and all the rest

994
00:59:05,820 --> 00:59:06,060
of it.

995
00:59:06,330 --> 00:59:11,670
She does. Yeah. But it's great.
She's, she's, she's fantastic.

996
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:17,460
She's sexy. Trooper Barrymore is
just outrageously sexy. You

997
00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:17,760
don't think?

998
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,820
Yeah, no, I really admire her.
Yeah. All right. Onward. Did he

999
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:26,460
do good news, that we're not
getting much of it yet a little

1000
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:29,250
bit. Isn't the story in The New
York Times about this? But it's

1001
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:32,460
generally I think we're trying
to avoid I'm looking at the MSN

1002
00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:35,250
homepage right now. They're
talking about the Broncos bus in

1003
00:59:35,250 --> 00:59:42,300
Kansas City and John Stamos, and
health site. We're where's the

1004
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:45,420
thing about the Chinese moonshot
coming up on Monday?

1005
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:55,020
You took my clip China is on the
moon.

1006
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,920
China will begin its mission to
land on the moon on Monday the

1007
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,910
Chunga three lunar prep were
being launched ads 1:30am local

1008
01:00:02,910 --> 01:00:07,800
time from the sheet and
Satellite Launch Centre. It was

1009
01:00:09,269 --> 01:00:13,169
the rocket system has functioned
perfectly in all four generals

1010
01:00:13,169 --> 01:00:16,769
inspections. Everything matches
up perfectly with a launch

1011
01:00:16,769 --> 01:00:20,639
environment. Also the weather
has been really good in Sioux

1012
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:27,179
town tomorrow actually stage
officials good weather procedure

1013
01:00:27,449 --> 01:00:28,259
launcher procedure.

1014
01:00:29,069 --> 01:00:32,219
If it's successful the mission
will be the first time that any

1015
01:00:32,219 --> 01:00:35,849
country has landed on the moon
for nearly 14 years will also be

1016
01:00:36,209 --> 01:00:40,259
first a softer landing on any
extra terrestrial surface the

1017
01:00:40,259 --> 01:00:43,859
mission was see an astronomical
telescope installed on the moon

1018
01:00:43,859 --> 01:00:48,209
the first ever in the history of
lunar exploration and extreme

1019
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:52,199
ultraviolet camera on the lander
is designed to map environmental

1020
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:53,579
changes on the earth.

1021
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:55,980
What would newscasters that
from?

1022
01:00:56,970 --> 01:00:58,710
That was from CeCe Javis from
China.

1023
01:00:58,740 --> 01:01:00,000
Let's listen to the American
version

1024
01:01:00,030 --> 01:01:02,370
something rather different final
sorry the British version

1025
01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:04,860
operations are underway for
China's first attempt to land a

1026
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:08,190
spacecraft on the moon Liftoff
is expected in the next few

1027
01:01:08,190 --> 01:01:11,460
days. If successful, it will be
the first moon landing in more

1028
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:15,330
than 40 years. China says it
wants to conduct research and

1029
01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,480
prepare the way for manned
missions. The prize would be to

1030
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,420
find a way to exploit the moon's
natural resources

1031
01:01:21,450 --> 01:01:25,770
so amazing that it took us to
China 40 years and they still

1032
01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:29,460
can't get a guy up there.
Because it was so easy 40 years

1033
01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:32,520
ago through the Van Allen belts
and everything is just so easy.

1034
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:32,700
She

1035
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:36,330
is very healthy. Yeah, of course
the most of those guys lived a

1036
01:01:36,330 --> 01:01:38,760
long life so maybe a little
radiation is not that bad for

1037
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,040
you. Well, this by the way is
true.

1038
01:01:41,250 --> 01:01:43,710
Yeah, and I'm thinking that you
know, they they need to put

1039
01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:46,620
those new studios in China to
good use so it's about time to

1040
01:01:46,650 --> 01:01:47,100
fake it

1041
01:01:48,029 --> 01:01:51,329
His way anyway, there's a triple
play. This is the only other

1042
01:01:51,329 --> 01:01:54,839
clip I have of this which is
what exactly they are doing with

1043
01:01:54,839 --> 01:01:58,379
the with these probes and yeah,
I know what they're really

1044
01:01:58,379 --> 01:02:01,139
doing. I think the Brits got it
right. They're looking for maybe

1045
01:02:01,139 --> 01:02:03,689
if there's enough platinum up
there, they can somehow ship

1046
01:02:03,689 --> 01:02:04,529
some of it back.

1047
01:02:04,650 --> 01:02:07,830
Well we don't know this already.
You don't we gave up when we

1048
01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:11,760
when we landed there all those
times. We don't really leave.

1049
01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:15,120
Thank you. So So

1050
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:19,140
taka, the Chango three mission
will achieve three firsts number

1051
01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:23,040
one space observation from the
moon. This is the dream of many

1052
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,720
astronomers because atmosphere
wind, snow and pollution don't

1053
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:32,190
obstruct visibility as they do
on Earth. Number two, we have an

1054
01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:36,090
ultraviolet camera on the lander
to monitor the Earth. This

1055
01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:40,140
camera is different from the one
used by America's Apollo 16.

1056
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:44,850
Ours can see the formation of
the Earth's atmosphere and its

1057
01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:48,720
density change. It's better than
a satellite, which can only

1058
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,530
record data section by section
as it orbits around the Earth.

1059
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:56,550
On the moon, it can absorb half
of Earth at a time without

1060
01:02:56,550 --> 01:03:01,200
moving. This is something people
have always wanted to do. Number

1061
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,770
three, we will be the first to
learn the structure and layers

1062
01:03:04,770 --> 01:03:09,330
of the moon 100 metres below its
surface with radars installed at

1063
01:03:09,330 --> 01:03:13,080
the bottom of the rover. The
rover drives on the lunar

1064
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,850
surface. It will be as if it can
cut as see what's 100 metres

1065
01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:22,440
below three highlights of what
no other countries have done so

1066
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:22,950
far.

1067
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,200
Well, I'm sad China's Great I'm
sad that they're not. They're

1068
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,010
not putting the dude up there.
I'm ready for that. I'm ready.

1069
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:32,340
Yeah, they

1070
01:03:32,340 --> 01:03:33,090
probably will.

1071
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,130
I'm ready for it. Yeah, you
know,

1072
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,140
they got plenty of dudes to put
up there.

1073
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,900
I'm still sceptical. I've just
really am I know

1074
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,690
nothing after they went up
there. There's nothing up there.

1075
01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:49,320
They took some rocks back. And
that's that and the Chinese

1076
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,890
barely got one gramme. We,
according to this this I forget

1077
01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:57,270
who it was one of the Presidents
gifted China with one gramme of

1078
01:03:57,270 --> 01:04:01,440
moon rocks which apparently they
studied to death and fat enough

1079
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,240
they found anything worth going
by now

1080
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,990
it's like the things do change
so we have

1081
01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:09,540
funny you always say that oh you
know there's no there's never

1082
01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,840
this never happen but then you
you make make the claim on one

1083
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,290
show I don't remember the exact
number that there are Israeli

1084
01:04:16,290 --> 01:04:17,670
moon colonies.

1085
01:04:18,090 --> 01:04:21,570
No, I've never first of all I've
never said Israeli second I've

1086
01:04:21,570 --> 01:04:26,310
never said colonies. I said
space elevator and Moon bases is

1087
01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:27,150
very different.

1088
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,390
Okay, Moon Base

1089
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:38,430
Ducky, but I'm I'm curious to
see how they, how they, how this

1090
01:04:38,430 --> 01:04:40,320
will be portrayed how it's gonna

1091
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:45,480
be downplayed in our media. I
can guarantee it. They won't

1092
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,600
show them when we shut our every
actually. So it's

1093
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,060
just essentially they're dumb.
They're just dumb because we

1094
01:04:51,060 --> 01:04:53,970
know there's nothing up there.
We haven't landed there in 40

1095
01:04:53,970 --> 01:04:57,960
years because there's nothing
nothing at all. Nothing. And now

1096
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,500
they're going back so they're
dumb. Okay, is that what I

1097
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:04,020
supposed to believe angle? I'm
supposed to believe that they're

1098
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:07,620
dumb. Well, I'm asking,

1099
01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:09,870
I don't know whether you're
supposed to believe it or not,

1100
01:05:09,870 --> 01:05:14,130
but I think it could be sold. I
wouldn't even take it. Here's my

1101
01:05:14,130 --> 01:05:17,130
approach. If I was doing the the
counter public relations on it,

1102
01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:20,760
it would be the Chinese are just
trying to make it appear, you

1103
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,130
know that they're just trying to
catch up to the Russians and the

1104
01:05:23,130 --> 01:05:26,880
Americans, we've long since
given up on his crap. And we

1105
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,230
actually have little vehicles on
Mars, which is a planet that's

1106
01:05:31,230 --> 01:05:35,130
way out there. It's nowhere near
the moon. And it goes around and

1107
01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:36,270
around. It's one to say,

1108
01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:38,700
oh, it's New Mexico, what are
you talking about? It's one

1109
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:40,260
state over not that far.

1110
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,890
And it's the we've gotten to all
that direction and so that the

1111
01:05:43,890 --> 01:05:47,250
Chinese are just way behind,
then it's just a way to, it'll

1112
01:05:47,250 --> 01:05:51,840
be used to demean them.
Meanwhile, I'm listened to Van

1113
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,740
cat. And there's they're talking
about one thing or another, and

1114
01:05:55,740 --> 01:05:57,870
they start talking about Africa
and the Central African

1115
01:05:57,870 --> 01:06:00,630
Republic, which looks like the
next hotspot where there's going

1116
01:06:00,630 --> 01:06:01,350
to be some sort of

1117
01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:05,490
car, you have to say car to be
official,

1118
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:12,210
CA R A R Yeah. And so this is
one guy, this this guy from the

1119
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,940
Atlantic group who's on the they
have this little panel

1120
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:19,620
discussion on van cat. At the
end of the news segment. It's

1121
01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:24,450
actually kind of interesting.
But this guy goes off on on the

1122
01:06:24,450 --> 01:06:28,110
way we look at China and the way
the Chinese look at China, I

1123
01:06:28,110 --> 01:06:30,210
think, and he's got a little
thing at the end, which I don't

1124
01:06:30,210 --> 01:06:33,990
quite get it, I want you to
analyse it. But listen to this

1125
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:37,710
China's in Africa perspective,
which is pretty much our

1126
01:06:37,710 --> 01:06:39,480
thinking, to a point

1127
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:43,830
to have a new basis out, right?
I mean, it's very easy for them

1128
01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:49,230
to come to this faith, state and
work from there. So obviously,

1129
01:06:49,230 --> 01:06:50,220
France has an interest.

1130
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:57,000
I think the French are feeling
embarrassed that they've really

1131
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:02,730
lost their foothold in Africa.
It's a slap in the face of

1132
01:07:02,730 --> 01:07:07,830
national pride. If you look at
today, right now, what happened

1133
01:07:07,830 --> 01:07:09,930
today, what was the most
important thing that happened

1134
01:07:09,930 --> 01:07:14,790
today in Africa, it took place
in Kenya, where they inaugurated

1135
01:07:14,820 --> 01:07:19,380
a I believe it was in the
neighbourhood of for a $14

1136
01:07:19,380 --> 01:07:25,890
billion rail line leaking East
Africa through Kenya, all funded

1137
01:07:25,890 --> 01:07:31,770
by the Chinese. This is a huge
deal. In the old days, you would

1138
01:07:31,770 --> 01:07:36,930
have seen the President of
France down there. In charge of

1139
01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:40,080
this, it would have been a
French operation. This was a

1140
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:44,970
Chinese operation. And the
future of Africa is in the hands

1141
01:07:44,970 --> 01:07:49,200
of the Chinese. And what's going
on now is that the Western

1142
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,340
powers France specifically here
are I think, trying to be a

1143
01:07:53,340 --> 01:07:57,000
little bit too old colonial for
their own good.

1144
01:07:57,089 --> 01:08:00,719
This is the as we were saying
earlier with countries like

1145
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:05,909
France are haunted, by the way
they've by inaction in the past,

1146
01:08:05,909 --> 01:08:06,179
get

1147
01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:10,740
over it. Get over it. It's a
brave new world. The old

1148
01:08:10,770 --> 01:08:13,500
we're talking about real people
being killed here in the Central

1149
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:14,160
African Republic.

1150
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:18,060
And I'm talking about real
politic in the 21st century.

1151
01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:23,520
Yes, you're right. But do we see
again, do we see the mass

1152
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,900
protests in the streets, saying
that we have to do something for

1153
01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:30,720
these people in Central Africa?
Did we see this going on in

1154
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,100
Darfur? Or did we see it go on
in Somalia? Well, no, you know,

1155
01:08:35,130 --> 01:08:42,120
we we did not humanitarian
interventions are not popular

1156
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:48,840
among nation states unless
economic interests are at stake.

1157
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,160
And that's a real politic
reality that a lot of

1158
01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:57,210
conservatives and liberals have
a hard time swallowing, but it

1159
01:08:57,210 --> 01:08:58,980
doesn't make it any less true.

1160
01:08:59,340 --> 01:09:02,130
Right? Well, the elites have no
problem swallowing that because

1161
01:09:02,130 --> 01:09:04,470
they go out there and kill
everybody and bomb the whole the

1162
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:08,460
whole deal. drove them hey, you
know, the but some news came out

1163
01:09:08,460 --> 01:09:14,310
today, which kind of fits into
that, that the Eastern African

1164
01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:20,040
states are going to create a
monetary union. This is Kenya,

1165
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,340
Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda and
Burundi are going to have a

1166
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:28,140
common market and a single
union, monetary union unit.

1167
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:31,380
They're talking about the
African Euro. And they're

1168
01:09:31,380 --> 01:09:34,680
talking about doing that. So
this is the EAC the East African

1169
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,590
Community. So it's, it's part
of, you know, obviously Kenya

1170
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:38,220
has to be a part of

1171
01:09:38,220 --> 01:09:42,720
that. This has to be a Chinese
initiative. Well, I know what I

1172
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,860
know what they should do.
Bitcoin

1173
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,020
need to go to Bitcoin calm
enough time for another

1174
01:09:52,020 --> 01:09:58,380
instalment of Bitcoin Bonanza,
with Adam curry and John C.

1175
01:09:58,530 --> 01:10:13,350
Dvorak. Peter Thiel, Satoshi
Nakamoto, Cody Wilson, and

1176
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:18,630
special guests, Alan Davis this
week on Bitcoin finance.

1177
01:10:18,810 --> 01:10:23,130
If only we had the money to do a
game show. And not great.

1178
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:26,730
That's good. That's very good
coin but it is as Taylor Swift

1179
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:27,870
that this and Elon

1180
01:10:27,870 --> 01:10:31,830
Musk. Yeah, I was. I was
actually think Elon Musk is

1181
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:35,250
smart. He started accepting
Bitcoins for the for that the

1182
01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:39,000
battery car of his. Yeah, I'm
calling he should do that he

1183
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:39,930
should do that.

1184
01:10:40,740 --> 01:10:43,320
He knows it's a scam is risky.

1185
01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:45,870
Anyway. So I think you're right.
I think this this has China has

1186
01:10:45,870 --> 01:10:48,930
written all over it. And
they're, of course going to, you

1187
01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:51,060
know, underwrite this new
currency. They're talking about

1188
01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:54,390
10 years, it definitely takes 10
years to to do something like

1189
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:54,750
this. Yeah,

1190
01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:57,720
they don't. They're sick of us
pushing everybody around with

1191
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,050
our Euro dollars. But the
question is that, wait a minute,

1192
01:11:01,050 --> 01:11:05,220
did you ever hear about this $14
billion rail line?

1193
01:11:05,580 --> 01:11:09,510
No, I'm not. I've never heard of
that at all, of course. So the

1194
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:09,960
Chinese

1195
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,660
put this rail line in that's
that's essentially hooking the

1196
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:16,380
countries up that you mentioned.
Yeah. Into the union. Yep. And

1197
01:11:16,380 --> 01:11:19,320
now they're going to do this.
These guys are really out

1198
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,970
playing us big time.

1199
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:24,180
And this is why I always get so
mad because all we when we think

1200
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:28,980
of Africa here, it's all these
little piddly NGOs, nonprofit

1201
01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:33,240
5013 C corpse, who are bringing
books for the poor children in

1202
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,080
Kenya, tell you Don't kid
yourself. These people are going

1203
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:42,810
to own us that they probably
already do. Is being in these

1204
01:11:42,810 --> 01:11:45,570
countries are? Yeah, the shore
there's poverty, but it's not

1205
01:11:45,570 --> 01:11:49,230
like we don't have poverty.
Crikey, almighty, we got some

1206
01:11:49,230 --> 01:11:52,080
poverty in this country. It's
just you know, it's just it's

1207
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,160
got an old Nikes on, you know,
so it doesn't look all that bad.

1208
01:11:57,300 --> 01:12:01,290
You don't have flies on your
face. But well, but these

1209
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:02,160
countries in brings

1210
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,470
me to another series of clips,
but continue.

1211
01:12:05,850 --> 01:12:09,780
Well, it actually brought me to
an email about San Francisco, if

1212
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:11,520
we can just do you need to stay
on Africa?

1213
01:12:12,030 --> 01:12:14,100
No, I think we're done with
Africa. I just wanted to get

1214
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:17,850
this point over. So everybody,
you know, knows that we're still

1215
01:12:17,850 --> 01:12:20,730
looking at this. And this is
getting worse by the minute.

1216
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:24,030
And but we're being fooled,
we're helpless. And we're being

1217
01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:27,810
fooled into thinking that you're
Africa's helpless, which is

1218
01:12:27,810 --> 01:12:31,140
exactly the other way around. In
fact, they're so they're so

1219
01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:34,200
they're walking out on climate
conferences, because we're not

1220
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:41,010
paying them. That's what's going
on. Yeah, I got a rant from Nick

1221
01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:45,660
about Silicon Valley, because we
were talking about the rat, not

1222
01:12:45,660 --> 01:12:48,060
Nick. No, producer Nick, I don't
know if good, no, because he

1223
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:50,190
works at a company. He doesn't
want me to give you his last

1224
01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:55,380
name. Okay. And this is about
the the arrogant Silicon Valley

1225
01:12:55,380 --> 01:12:58,200
types in San Francisco and the
rents and all the way we were

1226
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,580
kind of bitching about that. And
he has a counterpoint which I

1227
01:13:02,580 --> 01:13:07,170
think we should share. Which
which goes to this point of

1228
01:13:07,170 --> 01:13:10,110
poverty in America. Adam and
John just catching up on

1229
01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:12,450
Thursday show I work for a
startup in Silicon Valley.

1230
01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:16,200
Willie's points were kind of
bogus if he completely ignores

1231
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,200
it. This the fact that the city
doesn't give a flying fuck about

1232
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,100
the homeless and crime, as long
as it's not happening in Soma,

1233
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:26,520
or the tenderloin and not in
North Beach or Nob Hill where he

1234
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:31,170
lives. I have to agree right
there. When we really got things

1235
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:33,450
rolling about seven months ago,
someone from the city came down

1236
01:13:33,450 --> 01:13:36,030
to waste our time I think it was
the city manager he came in

1237
01:13:36,030 --> 01:13:39,780
under the guise of hoping to
help us and in return help them

1238
01:13:39,930 --> 01:13:43,230
nothing ever came of it. Or of
course, and again, I'll agree we

1239
01:13:43,230 --> 01:13:45,900
I've seen those guys at the
company in San Francisco. It's

1240
01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:49,980
just wasting time. That kind of
came in acted like a big deal.

1241
01:13:49,980 --> 01:13:52,470
Talk the big game and left no
doubt they'll be walking around

1242
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:56,280
going Oh, yeah. I've met those
guys. Great stuff. Yep. Yeah.

1243
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:58,980
Want to buy a seat at my dinner.
They don't help out with the

1244
01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:01,740
homeless problem. They don't
discourage the crime. They're

1245
01:14:01,740 --> 01:14:05,580
bent on making it. Oops. They're
bent on making it more and more

1246
01:14:05,580 --> 01:14:07,980
difficult to run a small
business their startups have

1247
01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:10,740
been doing their damnedest to
clean up South of Market Soma,

1248
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:13,950
but it's a fucking hellhole
bought before the startups it

1249
01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:17,970
was 100% warehouses crime,
homelessness and auto body chop

1250
01:14:17,970 --> 01:14:22,080
shops. Now it's just startups
crime and homelessness. We

1251
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,780
support the local restaurants
because well, we need to eat new

1252
01:14:24,780 --> 01:14:26,940
ones keep popping up which is
good and the chop shops are

1253
01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:30,000
turning into makerspaces These
are all good things that said

1254
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,640
the city seems to think it's a
startups job to clean up the

1255
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,940
streets. You know why people at
Zynga and square don't walk down

1256
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:38,910
the street? Because it's fucking
dangerous. That's why would you

1257
01:14:38,910 --> 01:14:41,520
feel safe walking down a street
full of crackheads and mentally

1258
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,000
ill? This, by the way is true.
Our employees that routinely are

1259
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:48,000
there routinely approach
approach for sex by meth addicts

1260
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,080
on their way home from work. The
homeless problem is massive. The

1261
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,600
place where I park every day has
about 30 to 40 homeless that

1262
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,200
live in a mix of tents,
makeshift tents, cars and non

1263
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,830
operating mobile homes. At our
office, there's a homeless guy

1264
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:04,140
that routinely sleeps in front
of our door and shits on our

1265
01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:06,930
sidewalk. It pisses off our
investors like you wouldn't

1266
01:15:06,930 --> 01:15:09,720
believe at 9am Every day he's
out there sitting in a fold up

1267
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,950
chair. Watching people step in
his crap while he drinks a Four

1268
01:15:13,950 --> 01:15:16,830
Loko and passes it on our
building. When I leave every

1269
01:15:16,830 --> 01:15:19,380
day, there's a line all the way
down the sidewalk on Fifth

1270
01:15:19,380 --> 01:15:22,410
Street for the shelter slash
soup kitchen. When I say line I

1271
01:15:22,410 --> 01:15:25,170
mean mob of people, some of
which just kind of stand in

1272
01:15:25,170 --> 01:15:29,460
traffic and shout profanities at
cars. That used to be my job.

1273
01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:33,210
There's no There's no parking in
the city, which means pretty

1274
01:15:33,210 --> 01:15:35,820
much everyone wants to live in
the city which keeps driving up

1275
01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:38,610
the rent. This is your problem,
John. When the city discovers a

1276
01:15:38,610 --> 01:15:40,950
street without metres on it,
they stick metres on it about

1277
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:44,490
$27 a day on average to park in
San Francisco. If there's a

1278
01:15:44,490 --> 01:15:48,210
Giants game or anything else is
going on at 675 An hour they use

1279
01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:51,390
parking metres that change the
price hourly price. Yes, they

1280
01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:53,910
do that I want to mention that
that is absolutely true. They

1281
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:58,050
put all these electronic parking
metres and the price changes. If

1282
01:15:58,050 --> 01:16:01,080
there's actually some reason to
park it goes up.

1283
01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:04,140
prepaying for metres is a
nightmare because of the

1284
01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:08,070
variable rates Oh, and a parking
ticket which you will get is 85

1285
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:13,620
bucks. Didn't didn't turn your
tires towards the curb 56 bucks

1286
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:17,460
and the complete Nazis about it.
So how bad are rents 3000 a

1287
01:16:17,460 --> 01:16:20,310
month for a one bedroom in Nob
Hill. Even worse in North beach

1288
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:23,400
south beats most people choose
to live in Mission Soma Dogpatch

1289
01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:26,310
where break ins happen all the
time. You can't go out at night,

1290
01:16:26,460 --> 01:16:29,310
and smash and grabs are common.
When someone broke into our

1291
01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:31,650
office, which is right across
the street from a massive police

1292
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:34,410
station. It took police 20
minutes to get there. When we

1293
01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:36,690
asked why it took so long to get
across the street. They said oh,

1294
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,850
that's just how we patrol. They
don't do anything but write

1295
01:16:38,850 --> 01:16:42,120
tickets. The only thing keeping
startups in the city is that

1296
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,310
employees want to live there.
That's the only thing that's

1297
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:48,210
keeping tax revenue coming in.
Oh, hiring locals, like who 90%

1298
01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:51,150
of SF is people from other
states and countries. Anyone

1299
01:16:51,150 --> 01:16:54,420
left over is no good. Invalid is
what we call them. When we do

1300
01:16:54,420 --> 01:16:57,990
interviews. It's so hard to find
people to work for you from SF,

1301
01:16:57,990 --> 01:17:00,840
they're arrogant and no good at
what they do. They're disposable

1302
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,230
employees and the jump from job
to job every six months. End of

1303
01:17:04,230 --> 01:17:04,740
rant.

1304
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:09,690
All right, hold on a second. Now
I've been complaining about San

1305
01:17:09,690 --> 01:17:13,890
Francisco being a hellhole that
people shouldn't go there and

1306
01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:17,760
all this for years. And I
complained about the parking and

1307
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,780
the ridiculous crap they they
put out there. I've always said

1308
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:25,140
San Francisco is unfriendly.
Yeah, and a miserable place.

1309
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:29,520
Why? Why there's some some
undertone here that that's

1310
01:17:29,550 --> 01:17:32,550
that's trying to correct my
thinking, what are we doing? Oh,

1311
01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:36,090
you have a fan? What are you
talking about? He's right. He's

1312
01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:37,200
right on board with you.

1313
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:39,870
It's a horrible place.

1314
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:45,090
But he's saying this in response
to Willie Brown. And the end,

1315
01:17:45,090 --> 01:17:47,880
you know, us saying that the old
me may be saying that the

1316
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,900
startups are arrogant. And you
know, but yeah, it you I guess

1317
01:17:51,930 --> 01:17:55,380
in a way you have to admit they
need to have these buses.

1318
01:17:55,650 --> 01:17:58,440
Because it is it's like Escape
from New York only at San

1319
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:01,530
Francisco. It is it's a
hellhole. And I remember our

1320
01:18:01,530 --> 01:18:04,650
office, the media office, as it
must have been broken into 10

1321
01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:05,340
times.

1322
01:18:05,849 --> 01:18:09,029
Yeah, it was broken into at
least once or at least once

1323
01:18:09,029 --> 01:18:09,689
every quarter every

1324
01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:14,340
quarter. Yeah. You're right.
It's it's a hellhole and and now

1325
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:17,040
like, I remember that, I
remember that.

1326
01:18:18,810 --> 01:18:22,620
So well, the number of homeless
in that area are pretty, pretty

1327
01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:26,070
minor. The homeless are really
around Twitter and Facebook and

1328
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:28,950
on brown Market Street. And
they're all over the place. And

1329
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:33,150
there's a encampments that are
set up commonly where there's a

1330
01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:37,080
whole bunch of tents and and
lean to is it looks like Brazil.

1331
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,010
And there's just a lot of guys
in there. And

1332
01:18:41,610 --> 01:18:44,160
I'm seeing this more and more in
Austin now too, which is kind of

1333
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,090
freaking me out. This is

1334
01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:49,710
all the Liberals that because in
Oakland, they've rouse they've

1335
01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:51,900
there's very few there even
though Oakland is the most

1336
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:55,860
dangerous city in the country.
And it's people you know, it's

1337
01:18:55,890 --> 01:18:59,970
just dangerous. But they got rid
of the homeless they ship mall

1338
01:18:59,970 --> 01:19:03,000
to San Francisco. You don't I
don't think I've ever

1339
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,160
encountered a homeless guy in
Oakland.

1340
01:19:05,190 --> 01:19:06,900
This is what the FEMA camps will
be for.

1341
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:12,450
Yeah, probably be okay. Yeah.
Yeah, regions, the region nine

1342
01:19:12,450 --> 01:19:15,930
camps for the homeless. San
Francisco likes their homeless.

1343
01:19:15,930 --> 01:19:20,280
I think they they use it as as
leverage in some way to get more

1344
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,610
police services or Oh, it's so
dangerous out there. You need to

1345
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,610
finance more police department
more in the police department.

1346
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,080
There. i They encourage San
Francisco I totally believe

1347
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:36,330
this. They encourage the
homeless for some reason, and I

1348
01:19:36,330 --> 01:19:37,530
think it has to do with

1349
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:38,850
that's pretty big statement.

1350
01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:43,890
I'm convinced of it. I've always
been convinced of it because

1351
01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:47,370
they use it to get this the
coffers they get more they can

1352
01:19:47,370 --> 01:19:48,330
tax you more.

1353
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:54,780
Yeah. Even more is it up to 12%.
Now in California, your state

1354
01:19:54,780 --> 01:19:55,410
income tax

1355
01:19:55,590 --> 01:20:01,110
that was passed. I know it's
still 10 Maybe it is 12 state

1356
01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:03,600
income tax on top of everything
else. Yeah.

1357
01:20:04,259 --> 01:20:07,409
You have then you have city tax,
right? No, there's no city

1358
01:20:07,409 --> 01:20:11,159
taxes. And Los Angeles is still
sending me things for city tax

1359
01:20:11,159 --> 01:20:12,599
or whatever. Small

1360
01:20:13,169 --> 01:20:16,769
tax in Los Angeles some kind of
tax some kind of income tax.

1361
01:20:16,799 --> 01:20:20,849
Yeah. Or masers is income tax in
New York. And that's really

1362
01:20:20,849 --> 01:20:21,779
high. It's for doing

1363
01:20:21,780 --> 01:20:24,990
business in the city of Los
Angeles. And of course,

1364
01:20:25,709 --> 01:20:28,859
the licencing tax a fee?

1365
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,050
Well, they're pretty, pretty
damn

1366
01:20:31,050 --> 01:20:33,510
persistent about they're not
there. You're in. You've been in

1367
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:39,330
Austin for years. Yeah. They
don't like that answer. They

1368
01:20:39,330 --> 01:20:41,880
don't like that at all. Well,
the US government does the same

1369
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,640
thing with people that move out
of move out of the country.

1370
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:48,510
Yeah. We you still owe us money.

1371
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:52,680
Don't get me started on that.
There's just staying in San

1372
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:58,080
Francisco that I was reading.
What is this this may be one of

1373
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,720
this came off of hacker news or
something. But there's, you

1374
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,020
know, the the political
correctness, the marks, cultural

1375
01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:09,210
Marxism is now bleeding into
high tech, where we now have to

1376
01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:13,620
change out of political
correctness, the term master and

1377
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:21,540
slave to client server. Because
of the weight of the slave and

1378
01:21:21,540 --> 01:21:22,860
master relationship,

1379
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,290
there's something you know,
somebody's it was actually our

1380
01:21:25,290 --> 01:21:30,210
one of our producers. You know
who he is. He's constantly

1381
01:21:30,210 --> 01:21:35,460
writing. He said, There's got to
be a movement to it to make this

1382
01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:40,230
to ban the word use of this. ban
the use of the word slash, yes,

1383
01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:44,790
yes. And I said, this is
bullcrap. And it but then I

1384
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:48,330
started thinking about it. And
it's so in other words, we call

1385
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,260
you know, the public at large
slaves. And this doesn't seem to

1386
01:21:52,260 --> 01:21:54,570
go over well with the
government. So it'd be cool to

1387
01:21:54,570 --> 01:21:57,450
just eliminate the word. So it's
like gay doesn't mean happy

1388
01:21:57,450 --> 01:22:01,260
anymore. Kind of thing. It's
just redefine things. And I

1389
01:22:01,710 --> 01:22:04,110
started thinking, Well, I was
kind of on the borderline until

1390
01:22:04,110 --> 01:22:11,850
Friday. On Friday, the entire
Democracy Now show had no news

1391
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:18,360
whatsoever. There wasn't one
item of news, the entire hour

1392
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:24,540
was devoted to a book on on
slavery and this in the 1700s

1393
01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:27,420
and how it formed this and
slaves. It was all about

1394
01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:31,320
slavery. The whole hour slavery,
slavery, like, this is not even,

1395
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,150
I would just befuddled by this.
Interesting and how bad it was

1396
01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:41,040
be Harvard was formed on the
basis of slavery. Yale was a

1397
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:46,050
slave school. It was evil
saveable in 1600. They're

1398
01:22:46,050 --> 01:22:50,910
telling us stuff about the
1600s. So there is something

1399
01:22:50,910 --> 01:22:53,490
going on about the slave the
term slave.

1400
01:22:53,550 --> 01:22:58,620
Yeah, well, it's the Drupal
community is now apparently

1401
01:22:58,620 --> 01:23:07,170
changing the concept of slaving
a server to a master to a client

1402
01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:12,600
server relationship because of
the political correctness of not

1403
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,910
using the master slave term.

1404
01:23:15,660 --> 01:23:20,730
Yeah, the S word it'll be pretty
soon. Yeah. The S word and it

1405
01:23:20,730 --> 01:23:22,050
won't mean splay.

1406
01:23:23,850 --> 01:23:29,610
And shoot will be okay. You
racist. What was I was I heard

1407
01:23:29,610 --> 01:23:34,770
something the other day on NPR.
And, and yeah, I think it was,

1408
01:23:34,980 --> 01:23:38,520
it was a woman talking about
something and she said, well,

1409
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,150
and then in this particular
book, it used the N word a lot.

1410
01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:46,080
And unlike, should it be okay to
say the word nigger if you're

1411
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,670
not talking to a in a certain
situation, if you're just if

1412
01:23:50,670 --> 01:23:53,580
you're referring to a word in a
book, can't you use the word

1413
01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:57,270
mean we all know you're not
being racist by saying the word

1414
01:23:58,350 --> 01:24:01,110
you know what I mean? That
that's that's really weird.

1415
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:04,050
Well, that's why they're pulling
all the Mark Twain material.

1416
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:06,780
Oh, you know what they got to
pull they gotta pull Tom Swift

1417
01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:10,590
then as well. I once I you know,
Tom Swift the books catch Tom

1418
01:24:10,590 --> 01:24:13,710
Swift. So I wanted to do an
audio book is the early Tom

1419
01:24:13,710 --> 01:24:17,640
Swift books are public domain.
And they're written I like turn

1420
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,700
of the century of the Nazis,
which has been around forever.

1421
01:24:20,730 --> 01:24:24,180
Yeah. Appleton. Victor Appleton
wrote the the original series,

1422
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:28,410
Tom Swift and his flying
grandmother. And I really wanted

1423
01:24:28,410 --> 01:24:31,620
to and I was reading the book
and I'm recording it. And that

1424
01:24:31,620 --> 01:24:35,340
is like, and here's Bubba, and
Bubba, hey, masa, you got that

1425
01:24:35,340 --> 01:24:40,050
flying thing over there. And
it's really written in the slave

1426
01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:44,190
type language of the day. So you
might as well burn those books.

1427
01:24:44,220 --> 01:24:46,950
You got to get rid of them,
because it's racist.

1428
01:24:47,370 --> 01:24:50,790
Well, the Huckleberry Finn would
be the same thing, which

1429
01:24:50,850 --> 01:24:55,800
I read as a kid and I love those
books. And I felt it really gave

1430
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,190
me a good perspective, if
anything, because of course,

1431
01:24:59,190 --> 01:25:03,330
Huckleberry Finn and And, you
know, and what was the the

1432
01:25:03,330 --> 01:25:07,590
slave? That was Sawyer? No, no,
Huckleberry Finn. They had the

1433
01:25:07,590 --> 01:25:12,330
black guy on the on the raft.
This is I forget his name, Jim

1434
01:25:12,330 --> 01:25:15,390
maybe. Yeah, Jim. And you know,
they were friends. You know,

1435
01:25:15,390 --> 01:25:18,450
they were buddies and it was a
real deep bonding thing. And

1436
01:25:18,450 --> 01:25:21,480
that was a beautiful book to
read. I always felt it was

1437
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:25,410
really enlightening. But yeah, I
wouldn't surprise me if because

1438
01:25:25,410 --> 01:25:28,740
of the language used, those
books will be banned or altered

1439
01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:32,760
or demand most dated. banned.
Really? John banned?

1440
01:25:33,090 --> 01:25:34,440
Yeah, banned banned. Yeah,

1441
01:25:34,650 --> 01:25:37,710
you can you can't you can't buy
Huckleberry Finn, you can.

1442
01:25:37,710 --> 01:25:41,520
But no, he's not in it, where it
was once in a curriculum of

1443
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,900
American literature is now

1444
01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:47,940
out. And it's so important to
have that, you know, alright,

1445
01:25:47,940 --> 01:25:49,980
well, now that we're a
curriculum, we might as well do

1446
01:25:49,980 --> 01:25:52,410
a quick one. And by the way, a
lot of people were very upset

1447
01:25:52,410 --> 01:25:55,800
when I said that we probably
would not do a lot of common

1448
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,490
core. I didn't say that. I said,
we're not going to do the same

1449
01:25:59,490 --> 01:26:04,320
thing over and over again. And
people are really upset. Go, you

1450
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,130
need to stay on

1451
01:26:05,130 --> 01:26:08,190
this. And if you are staying on
it, what are they talking about?

1452
01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:09,300
What did you say?

1453
01:26:09,330 --> 01:26:12,510
I said, we're not going to keep
reading out the same things. If

1454
01:26:12,510 --> 01:26:12,930
there's something

1455
01:26:13,140 --> 01:26:17,520
you are complaining about the
email? Yeah, well, so he I

1456
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,460
remember that you what you said
was that I'm not going to read

1457
01:26:20,460 --> 01:26:23,580
everybody's email that comes in
bitching about common core and I

1458
01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:26,970
sent it to people took that to
me talking about it anymore. I

1459
01:26:26,970 --> 01:26:27,180
said

1460
01:26:27,180 --> 01:26:30,330
that in exactly that annoying
voice. It's it's just uncanny

1461
01:26:30,330 --> 01:26:35,070
how you how you are able to do
Yeah. So two things I want to

1462
01:26:35,070 --> 01:26:36,450
say, Good Mimic, let's

1463
01:26:36,450 --> 01:26:37,140
put it that way.

1464
01:26:37,410 --> 01:26:40,380
When I want to do want to read a
quick email, and then I have

1465
01:26:40,710 --> 01:26:45,150
actually a revelation for me. So
yes, Patrick, my 13 year old

1466
01:26:45,150 --> 01:26:47,130
daughter, and I want to thank
you for your courage and

1467
01:26:47,130 --> 01:26:49,800
coverage of Common Core and
episode 568. It was very

1468
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,830
educational to her and was also
a wonderful bonding experience

1469
01:26:52,830 --> 01:26:55,890
for us both. She was quicker
than I and nearly as quick as

1470
01:26:55,890 --> 01:26:58,860
John to pick up on each of your
points. I was very proud of her.

1471
01:26:59,190 --> 01:27:01,350
She went to her favourite
teacher the next day, and he

1472
01:27:01,350 --> 01:27:05,340
already was aware of the would
be fiasco. He seemed impressed

1473
01:27:05,340 --> 01:27:08,160
that she understood the scam.
Thankfully, she goes to a good

1474
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,370
private school and they're
already on our side. I'm sorry,

1475
01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:14,100
not a donation attached his
email, we're just getting by

1476
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,710
freely sending your kid to
private school, you don't have

1477
01:27:16,710 --> 01:27:17,670
five bucks.

1478
01:27:19,050 --> 01:27:22,530
All right. I like the way you
turn this little note around, I

1479
01:27:22,530 --> 01:27:22,710
just

1480
01:27:22,710 --> 01:27:28,290
realised that I've just
realised. Yeah, that's sucks.

1481
01:27:28,530 --> 01:27:31,470
Can't get a $5 a month
subscription. I mean, come on.

1482
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:35,400
And then there was a link and I
finally figured out the so

1483
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:40,830
here's the term compensation
mathematics. This is a Common

1484
01:27:40,830 --> 01:27:45,330
Core term compensation
mathematics. And I finally

1485
01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:49,680
figured out what they're doing.
And we can probably dissect why

1486
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,280
they're doing it. So here's how
the here's that. Here's the sum

1487
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,450
and how they want children to
approach it. So in this is a

1488
01:27:57,450 --> 01:28:02,040
textbook from Common Core use
compensation. So this is this is

1489
01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:05,190
we get to write this down John
compensation, mathematics, use

1490
01:28:05,190 --> 01:28:11,580
compensation to find the answer
to three times 18. That you

1491
01:28:11,580 --> 01:28:15,270
know, what is three times 18?
Can you do this in your head?

1492
01:28:16,259 --> 01:28:18,779
John? SVGs 2454.

1493
01:28:18,809 --> 01:28:22,799
Okay. How did you do that? How
did you? How did you get to this

1494
01:28:22,829 --> 01:28:23,339
number,

1495
01:28:23,549 --> 01:28:27,419
I multiply three times eight,
which is 24. Then I carried the

1496
01:28:27,419 --> 01:28:30,029
two and added it to three
because it was a one and three

1497
01:28:30,029 --> 01:28:30,989
plus one is five.

1498
01:28:31,019 --> 01:28:33,629
Right? So that's how I was
taught as well, which is, and

1499
01:28:33,629 --> 01:28:36,269
that's why you the only thing
you have to know is the

1500
01:28:36,269 --> 01:28:39,179
multiplication tables are
drilled into your head. So you

1501
01:28:39,179 --> 01:28:44,309
can snap the answer. There's
only not much to it, right? It's

1502
01:28:44,309 --> 01:28:48,149
a very simple way of approaching
it. So know, the way the Common

1503
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:51,389
Core with compensation
mathematics wants you to do it

1504
01:28:51,869 --> 01:28:56,789
is substitute a number for 18.
That is easy to multiply,

1505
01:28:57,179 --> 01:29:00,689
because of course you're dumb.
So they suggest why don't you

1506
01:29:00,689 --> 01:29:06,359
take 20 So they say three times
20 is 60. Now you're left with

1507
01:29:06,359 --> 01:29:11,009
three groups of two. That is
six. So you have to subtract six

1508
01:29:11,009 --> 01:29:17,129
from the 60 to arrive at 54.
That's harder. Yeah. Thank you.

1509
01:29:17,879 --> 01:29:22,289
It makes no sense. I mean, yeah,
maybe because it's

1510
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,940
brutal. I can do three times
too.

1511
01:29:25,770 --> 01:29:29,820
Cuz it's a long multiplication
table. It seems like they don't

1512
01:29:29,820 --> 01:29:34,470
want kids to go over, you know,
20 or to take the tables have to

1513
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,960
ya know, to go that route when
you could just remember that.

1514
01:29:40,170 --> 01:29:42,570
You can remember the
multiplication tables, three

1515
01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:45,390
times eight, you'd have to
remember, you know, two times

1516
01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:48,930
two, three times two, which is I
mean, it's not that hard. It's I

1517
01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:52,800
get for it. So that's all third
and fourth grade. You generally

1518
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,070
have the multiplication table
drummed into you have a year to

1519
01:29:56,070 --> 01:30:00,750
learn it. It's not like oh my
god. It's a you have A year to

1520
01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:03,870
learn, you know, everything from
one times one to 12 times 12?

1521
01:30:03,870 --> 01:30:06,180
Because that's kind of where
they stop it usually not even

1522
01:30:06,180 --> 01:30:11,190
144, by the way, yeah, we don't
and so that, you know, you learn

1523
01:30:11,190 --> 01:30:14,280
that it would take, I don't
know, 60 days at the most 30

1524
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,730
days a week, whatever it takes
you didn't you have flashcards

1525
01:30:17,730 --> 01:30:20,280
use use flashcards. Don't just
do it with your, your pair. What

1526
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,370
is this? I say? And so you go
through that, and you got it.

1527
01:30:23,370 --> 01:30:27,300
Now you can do three times 18
rather easily and quickly in

1528
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:30,270
your head, you can come up with
the answer almost instantly. But

1529
01:30:30,270 --> 01:30:34,020
this other approach. And one
thing I would here's what my I

1530
01:30:34,020 --> 01:30:35,940
was looking at the other
approach. And here's the first

1531
01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:39,660
thing I said to myself, I said
three times 20 is 60. There's

1532
01:30:39,660 --> 01:30:46,680
two differences. I just subtract
two, the answer is 58. Well,

1533
01:30:46,890 --> 01:30:50,880
because the difference between
18 and 20 is two I know that and

1534
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,060
three times 20 is 60. But I
changed it to 20. From 18.

1535
01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:58,170
That's too. So the answer is 58.
I'm telling it, this is the kind

1536
01:30:58,170 --> 01:31:01,800
of problem you have with this
complexity. So here,

1537
01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:05,550
um, so I'm looking at the two
pages from this textbook to the

1538
01:31:05,550 --> 01:31:10,020
first one says using mental math
to multiply. And then it gives

1539
01:31:10,020 --> 01:31:13,290
you this, this problem in the
equation and here's the and

1540
01:31:13,290 --> 01:31:18,150
says, with compensation, you
choose numbers close to the

1541
01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:22,890
numbers in the problem to make
the computation easier, and then

1542
01:31:22,890 --> 01:31:27,780
adjust the answer for the
numbers chosen. Wow, this seems

1543
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:32,250
like government doesn't it?
Like, let's guesstimate. And

1544
01:31:32,250 --> 01:31:35,670
then when we get the wrong
answer, we'll adjust it later.

1545
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:39,960
This is very, very strange.

1546
01:31:40,530 --> 01:31:41,910
It's actually disturbing.

1547
01:31:42,450 --> 01:31:48,600
Yeah. And it's but it seems to
me it's inviting errors. It's

1548
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,570
inviting what like the one you
just the error, you explain what

1549
01:31:51,570 --> 01:31:56,190
you came up with? 58. But also,
it seems like it's it's it's

1550
01:31:56,220 --> 01:32:02,010
it's pushing people towards not
learning more multiplication

1551
01:32:02,010 --> 01:32:09,660
tables than two. Because you're
doing three times to 03 times 20

1552
01:32:09,660 --> 01:32:13,320
is 60. And you're doing three
times the twos that are left

1553
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:18,630
over which is six, and then
you're subtracting. So it really

1554
01:32:18,630 --> 01:32:22,110
feels like we're so dumb. We
can't let you do anything harder

1555
01:32:22,110 --> 01:32:26,250
than you know. You can't do you
can't remember more than the

1556
01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:30,030
tape that the the multiplication
table of two. So we'll we'll

1557
01:32:30,030 --> 01:32:35,250
have you solve it this way. It's
very, very, very strange.

1558
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:44,040
That is weird. But how does when
it's four times 18 Think of the

1559
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,810
complexity to get to the

1560
01:32:46,230 --> 01:32:50,880
no one no one ever orders 18 Big
Macs. It's not it's not gonna

1561
01:32:51,060 --> 01:32:54,660
it's not gonna be a problem.
Don't you see? I'm never gonna

1562
01:32:54,660 --> 01:32:55,860
happen ever.

1563
01:32:57,660 --> 01:33:01,950
Well, this is very stupid.
Mistakes. It reminds me when

1564
01:33:01,950 --> 01:33:03,990
people will always refer to when
you talk about it with

1565
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:06,480
somebody's not this nursery to
the show where we've actually

1566
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:10,470
broke it down quite a bit. Oh,
it sounds like new math. No,

1567
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:13,590
it's not remember new math. I
can't quite remember all of it.

1568
01:33:13,590 --> 01:33:16,080
But it was something it was
similarly stupid.

1569
01:33:17,130 --> 01:33:21,540
I remember new I think I just
kind of went past the new math.

1570
01:33:21,870 --> 01:33:25,350
What the hell was new new math
was another attempt at this. I

1571
01:33:25,350 --> 01:33:27,990
think this has been going on for
a while this common core thing

1572
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:33,180
is not new. Buzzkill Jr blames
the whole thing on Dewey, the

1573
01:33:33,180 --> 01:33:37,320
Dewey Decimal System, Dewey, the
guy who did the Dewey Decimal

1574
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:41,730
System. He was an educator and
many of these crazy things about

1575
01:33:41,970 --> 01:33:43,800
about creating citizens.

1576
01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:47,430
New Math was a brief dynamic
change in the way mathematics

1577
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:50,250
was taught in American grade
schools, and to a lesser extent

1578
01:33:50,250 --> 01:33:54,000
in European countries. During
the 1960s. The name was commonly

1579
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,460
given to a set of teaching
practices introduced in the US

1580
01:33:56,460 --> 01:33:59,640
shortly after the Sputnik
crisis, in order to boost

1581
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,550
science, education and
mathematical skill in the

1582
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:06,000
population. So that the
perceived intellectual threat of

1583
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,480
Soviet engineers reputedly high
skilled mathematicians could be

1584
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:13,140
met. Oh, just replace Russia
with China in this and you have

1585
01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:17,310
the exact same thing. This is a
fractal John of the new math.

1586
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,090
Yeah, I think fractal
mathematician describes the

1587
01:34:21,090 --> 01:34:25,950
interesting objects set builder
notation. Okay. Binary numbers

1588
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:30,720
do Oh, decimals. Oh my God. Now
the problem, of course, is that

1589
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,130
we have a lot of this common
core is going to carry over to

1590
01:34:35,130 --> 01:34:39,300
college. And a lot of people are
just not going to be able to get

1591
01:34:39,300 --> 01:34:42,870
into college because they didn't
have the Common Core background

1592
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:46,710
education in the dumbed down
system. And it is dumbed down. I

1593
01:34:46,710 --> 01:34:50,850
just can't see it any other way.
Make it up. Kind of get there

1594
01:34:50,850 --> 01:34:54,660
compensate later. Wow, sounds
like healthcare.gov, doesn't it?

1595
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,200
Oh, which reminds me, now that
you mentioned it I guess it's

1596
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,350
running like a champ. Now it's
just it wasn't a long because it

1597
01:35:04,350 --> 01:35:08,880
was guaranteed According to
Obama, it'd be fixed today. The

1598
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,800
first of the day, by the end of
November I was going to be

1599
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,830
running great is how is it
doing? I have no I don't care, I

1600
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:14,970
really shut it down.

1601
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:20,880
I really don't care. It's, it's
irrelevant. It doesn't matter.

1602
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,190
It's failed, the whole thing is
failed. It's not You're not

1603
01:35:23,190 --> 01:35:26,520
going to work. It's just not
going to work. Right? Should be

1604
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:29,730
maybe we'll get to it tonight.
We'll get to talk about it. And

1605
01:35:30,270 --> 01:35:33,660
bring it up. Now. They're gonna
bring up 23 in Me, which I'm

1606
01:35:33,660 --> 01:35:36,450
going to take a totally
different tact on now. Okay,

1607
01:35:36,450 --> 01:35:40,650
tell me. Well, so I've learned
actually, you know, as you know,

1608
01:35:40,650 --> 01:35:43,410
from Thursday, I've went really
deep on this stuff. And I've

1609
01:35:43,410 --> 01:35:47,760
learned a lot. And really, the
main thing I've learned is that

1610
01:35:48,090 --> 01:35:52,860
DNA analysis to date has really
not, isn't really not helpful in

1611
01:35:53,070 --> 01:35:56,640
finding diseases or helping you
cure diseases. It's great. If

1612
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,330
you want to know how much
Neanderthal you are, or you know

1613
01:36:00,330 --> 01:36:04,200
how much African you are, or if
you're related to somebody Yeah,

1614
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,010
that that makes sense. But it
hasn't really done very well in

1615
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:13,230
in truly predicting diseases.
And don't tell

1616
01:36:13,230 --> 01:36:14,970
that to Angelina Jolie,

1617
01:36:15,090 --> 01:36:18,780
while she's part of the system,
yet she's part of this, this

1618
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:23,430
whole movement. But here's what
I'm going to say. We already

1619
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:27,390
made having a company like 20
I'm forming it in my head here

1620
01:36:27,390 --> 01:36:34,050
so helped me allowing a company
like 23andme to, quote unquote,

1621
01:36:34,050 --> 01:36:39,570
democratise your health and your
DNA is like allow it like we

1622
01:36:39,570 --> 01:36:43,260
allowed Twitter and Facebook to
democratise freedom of speech.

1623
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:47,550
You know, their open source
database is open source

1624
01:36:47,550 --> 01:36:50,730
programmes, the testing is one
thing and they don't even do the

1625
01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:53,850
testing. They outsource it. So
I'd like to know, where can you

1626
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,900
test it. And it's fun. It's fun
to run it through. Prometheus,

1627
01:36:58,050 --> 01:37:02,100
Prometheus, I think it's called
Prometheus, which is open source

1628
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:04,380
and you can you run it and you
can run against the same

1629
01:37:04,380 --> 01:37:07,590
database. In fact, one guy, one
of our producers, he thanked me

1630
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:11,820
for mentioning that he says 23
And me, I took the raw data that

1631
01:37:11,820 --> 01:37:14,940
I got from them and ran it
through Prometheus. 23andme

1632
01:37:14,940 --> 01:37:17,670
never told me I have a higher
risk than the average population

1633
01:37:17,670 --> 01:37:20,730
of getting coronary heart
disease, whereas Prometheus had

1634
01:37:20,730 --> 01:37:23,730
it at the top of the page. Many
of the men on my mother's side

1635
01:37:23,730 --> 01:37:26,100
died in their 50s. from heart
disease, Prometheus also said I

1636
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,800
have a higher risk factor for
alcoholic liver disease and

1637
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,410
increased liver fat.
Interestingly enough, several

1638
01:37:31,410 --> 01:37:33,060
people on both sides of my
family have died from

1639
01:37:33,060 --> 01:37:36,450
alcoholism. Prometheus also said
I have a higher risk from

1640
01:37:36,570 --> 01:37:40,290
celiacs disease, which I did not
see in the 23andme report. Both

1641
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:42,720
reports mentioned I have an
above average risk for Glaucoma,

1642
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:47,370
which two of my ons have. So it
may even be that, you know, the

1643
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,060
false negatives that you get
from the Twitter of DNA, which

1644
01:37:51,060 --> 01:37:54,780
is what I'm calling them now,
are more dangerous than the

1645
01:37:54,780 --> 01:38:00,810
false positives. But in general,
I liked the open source route. I

1646
01:38:00,810 --> 01:38:06,030
don't think we should give up
our DNA to some Google related

1647
01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:10,410
company. It's just not smart.
Learn from what's happened. Your

1648
01:38:10,710 --> 01:38:15,450
Google Gmail is not great. It's
just not you may think it's

1649
01:38:15,450 --> 01:38:19,380
great still, but it's not. Now
Twitter is not great. Your words

1650
01:38:19,380 --> 01:38:23,460
great until they close you down.
Facebook is not great when they

1651
01:38:23,460 --> 01:38:27,660
don't show you your your friends
timeline. These are not great

1652
01:38:27,660 --> 01:38:31,110
things. Do we need to
decentralise everything,

1653
01:38:31,110 --> 01:38:33,420
including the DNA stuff? So
that's where I'm taking it.

1654
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,050
I think you net you if you threw
that exactly what you said right

1655
01:38:37,050 --> 01:38:40,440
there and that little one
minute? Which I'll never get

1656
01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:46,200
back that little one minute. At
the dinner party, you would stop

1657
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:47,880
the show, you'd probably get a
standing Oh,

1658
01:38:47,969 --> 01:38:50,279
I'm going to try it. I'm going
to try it. It's it starts at

1659
01:38:50,279 --> 01:38:51,869
630. So I'll still be

1660
01:38:51,900 --> 01:38:55,860
used. I think that I think
you're right on to a It's not I

1661
01:38:55,860 --> 01:38:58,260
don't think a complete answer to
what you really want to do,

1662
01:38:58,260 --> 01:39:01,620
which is to get everyone all
worked up. I think it's a I

1663
01:39:01,620 --> 01:39:05,190
think it's a great, great little
commentary that you could drop

1664
01:39:05,190 --> 01:39:08,520
like a bomb in there and it
would shut everybody up. Right?

1665
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:14,430
Because you're from that little
silica soliloquy. That means

1666
01:39:14,430 --> 01:39:17,190
you've actually thought about
this. I guarantee nobody.

1667
01:39:17,190 --> 01:39:19,380
There's thought about it.
They're all at the one layer

1668
01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:22,530
deep. You know, they they're
just the government's shutting

1669
01:39:22,530 --> 01:39:27,330
them down. And it's a bunch of
conservatives. The Republicans

1670
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:31,200
are the gate Republicans are
behind. Yeah, exactly.

1671
01:39:31,710 --> 01:39:34,140
Now, I didn't want to say
anything really. I'm

1672
01:39:34,140 --> 01:39:36,870
so tired of it, but it's a good
speech. And it's short and

1673
01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:37,650
sweet. It's also

1674
01:39:37,650 --> 01:39:41,250
the way I really feel it's and
it took me it took all of this

1675
01:39:41,250 --> 01:39:45,450
for me to realise what my real
aggression was towards this

1676
01:39:45,450 --> 01:39:49,260
company. And I'm like, Oh, of
course it makes so much sense.

1677
01:39:49,470 --> 01:39:56,010
Because all they're trying to do
is is gather a lot of data to

1678
01:39:56,190 --> 01:39:59,970
perhaps one day be able to
supply some kind of a now

1679
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,930
offices, but they're taking your
shit. It's like your once again,

1680
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:06,090
if you're not getting the
benefit, you're giving it to

1681
01:40:06,090 --> 01:40:08,040
them, and you're paying them 99
bucks.

1682
01:40:09,690 --> 01:40:13,110
Yeah, this is the way things go.
Yeah, and have not have we are

1683
01:40:13,110 --> 01:40:17,490
being exploited. This is like
these, these systems that are

1684
01:40:18,030 --> 01:40:20,280
just, they just exploit the
users.

1685
01:40:20,940 --> 01:40:24,450
Yes, it's an and I'm tired and
they had they've raised $100

1686
01:40:24,450 --> 01:40:30,450
million. That's not a fly by
night operation. No. And of

1687
01:40:30,450 --> 01:40:35,370
course, they must be subsidising
the test because the tests.

1688
01:40:35,970 --> 01:40:38,430
Look, if there's a real market
for this, the price will come

1689
01:40:38,430 --> 01:40:39,390
down for that for

1690
01:40:39,420 --> 01:40:42,690
just right now. It's just
expensive four or $5,000.

1691
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:46,140
And the price will come down. If
there's a real market for it's

1692
01:40:46,140 --> 01:40:48,780
actually a good deal for 99
bucks to get the test. It's a

1693
01:40:48,780 --> 01:40:49,890
great deal. And

1694
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:52,800
I actually am considering doing
it. Because now that I know that

1695
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:56,610
there's the s&p do, which is the
open source, which is where they

1696
01:40:56,610 --> 01:41:00,690
get their information from to is
is open source and available

1697
01:41:00,690 --> 01:41:03,480
that Yeah, it's interesting to
look at that. Sure. I don't mind

1698
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:07,260
looking at but I think we should
be very, very careful and learn

1699
01:41:07,260 --> 01:41:11,100
our lessons about giving up our
technology and let's just call

1700
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:18,780
this technology to a wholesome
Silicon Valley. Backslash grant.

1701
01:41:22,290 --> 01:41:24,150
Okay, I think you made your
point.

1702
01:41:24,180 --> 01:41:24,990
Thank you very much.

1703
01:41:26,220 --> 01:41:31,590
And I have nothing to add.
That's fine. I'm looking forward

1704
01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:34,290
to the results of this next
dinner. Are you doing it on

1705
01:41:34,290 --> 01:41:38,250
Sunday? Would you did it on
Saturday nights? It's

1706
01:41:38,250 --> 01:41:41,850
Fritz first. I don't know. It's
no no. It's first of the month

1707
01:41:41,850 --> 01:41:42,570
and I don't know.

1708
01:41:42,990 --> 01:41:47,610
Oh, there's like some some coded
you know, like holiday like, I

1709
01:41:47,610 --> 01:41:49,380
don't know, manufactured
schedule. It's

1710
01:41:49,380 --> 01:41:53,490
hard to unfortunately the guy
who did I tell you this? That

1711
01:41:53,490 --> 01:41:57,330
the guy who was there last time
the extra guy. He turns out that

1712
01:41:57,330 --> 01:42:01,290
he's a he's a top guy for Hill
and Knowlton.

1713
01:42:02,610 --> 01:42:04,080
He's there to check you out.

1714
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:09,930
Yeah, but I didn't realise this.
Worse, not just by Well, he's,

1715
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:13,890
he's not he's not able to make
tonight's dinner. Fortunately,

1716
01:42:13,890 --> 01:42:14,190
she

1717
01:42:14,190 --> 01:42:17,550
figured you're just a crackpot.
Yeah, but I said yeah, come to

1718
01:42:17,610 --> 01:42:21,930
your dossiers fight closed.
Yeah, nothing. Nothing to see

1719
01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:22,290
here.

1720
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:23,880
No worries started went

1721
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:28,740
into the big filing cabinet over
here nothing to see here.

1722
01:42:28,769 --> 01:42:32,969
Look at Glenn Greenwald was on
the BBC is Hard Talk. Did you

1723
01:42:32,969 --> 01:42:36,989
see this interview? No, I wish I
had Yeah, I could put a couple

1724
01:42:36,989 --> 01:42:42,659
clips. I thought it was
interesting. In two regards one

1725
01:42:42,659 --> 01:42:47,219
whenever I see people online
going, Glenn Greenwald totally

1726
01:42:47,219 --> 01:42:51,239
school that motherfucker. Like
okay, let's see how bad he

1727
01:42:51,239 --> 01:42:56,759
schooled him. You know, like
mainstream third. Actually, I

1728
01:42:56,759 --> 01:42:59,549
found it to be quite a different
guy. Yeah. It's it's the

1729
01:43:00,180 --> 01:43:04,530
profane, less idiot that thinks
everything is

1730
01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:10,230
internet guy getting Greenwell
schooling. And what I liked

1731
01:43:10,230 --> 01:43:14,010
about this is the guy on Hard
Talk, which is on BBC News,

1732
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:18,630
evening show and Glenn's on from
Buenos Aires. Again, one of

1733
01:43:18,630 --> 01:43:22,770
those I skype has less than Rio,
isn't he? I think he was in

1734
01:43:22,770 --> 01:43:24,240
Buenos Aires, I think

1735
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:27,660
oh, he was in Buenos Aires for
the

1736
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,480
for the for the interview. I
maybe I'm just remembering that

1737
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:31,680
wrong. Okay, whatever

1738
01:43:31,710 --> 01:43:35,100
doesn't make any difference? Why
does it just go to England and

1739
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:36,150
sit there with the guy?

1740
01:43:36,330 --> 01:43:42,930
Well, duh. Part of that is in
this. I'm just gonna say that

1741
01:43:42,930 --> 01:43:46,110
Skype if you did the interview
on Skype, it have less delay

1742
01:43:46,110 --> 01:43:50,250
than whatever satellite system
the BBC is using. Man, it's

1743
01:43:50,250 --> 01:43:53,640
really annoying, because
whenever Greenwald gets excited,

1744
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,370
he's responding three seconds
later to when the guy tried to

1745
01:43:56,370 --> 01:44:02,670
interrupt. And it's really the
cadence is weird. So the

1746
01:44:02,670 --> 01:44:05,940
question, of course, that we
also asked is who really owns

1747
01:44:05,940 --> 01:44:12,300
this information that I submit
was taken from Edward Snowden

1748
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:16,110
and subsequently, Edward Snowden
is long, no longer necessary.

1749
01:44:16,710 --> 01:44:20,760
And he's now just a brand as in
the documents from Edward

1750
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:26,220
Snowden. But the guy is like
here, enjoy Moscow, to who owns

1751
01:44:26,220 --> 01:44:26,850
it. You've

1752
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:30,270
so long sucker. Exactly.

1753
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:36,270
You've only published a tiny
fraction of the huge number of

1754
01:44:36,300 --> 01:44:41,310
top secret documents that you
have in your possession. So

1755
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:45,540
question number one who owns
those documents intellectually

1756
01:44:45,540 --> 01:44:48,450
right now who has ultimate
control over them? You no longer

1757
01:44:48,450 --> 01:44:51,390
work for The Guardian, Edward
Snowden stuck in Moscow and

1758
01:44:51,390 --> 01:44:57,030
can't get out. So who actually
controls this in your words, top

1759
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:59,460
secret information which has yet
to be published?

1760
01:44:59,550 --> 01:45:01,200
What did we do? your answer be
to that, John.

1761
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:06,960
Wow. So this guy, of course, you
know, we taught him BBC probably

1762
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:11,280
mi six. Oh, yeah. And so he's
asking specific question. This

1763
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,380
is a good question. I think this
is a very good this is the

1764
01:45:13,380 --> 01:45:17,490
question. Somebody finally is,
this is a great question that

1765
01:45:17,490 --> 01:45:21,840
somebody finally asked it. My
answer would be, it's public

1766
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,430
domain. I know I this is what
I'd say, I believe at this

1767
01:45:26,430 --> 01:45:29,850
point, because this copies have
been circulated. The New York

1768
01:45:29,850 --> 01:45:33,360
Times has one The Washington
Post has one, The Guardian has

1769
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:38,340
one I have one. I have there's a
couple copies out there. I am

1770
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:42,000
taking these documents and
assuming that they are public

1771
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,030
domain until told otherwise, ah.

1772
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,590
The journalist who he trusted

1773
01:45:50,970 --> 01:45:58,620
why they're mine. They're my
document. What the nerve,

1774
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,280
listen to the rest, as as a
source just like is true in

1775
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,580
every single case. Well, myself
or a boy truss. The New York

1776
01:46:05,580 --> 01:46:07,950
Times has a large number of
documents already and has a

1777
01:46:07,950 --> 01:46:10,260
large number of documents. And
the Washington Post does as

1778
01:46:10,260 --> 01:46:13,350
well. So basically, the world's
largest and most respected

1779
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:17,190
Western newspapers are in
possession of these large number

1780
01:46:17,190 --> 01:46:17,430
of these.

1781
01:46:18,810 --> 01:46:21,780
Don't you love that? It's like,
Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll just trust

1782
01:46:21,780 --> 01:46:25,200
the news media. I'll just trust
that the world's largest news

1783
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:32,910
organisations. In this day and
age, no, no, I would like to see

1784
01:46:32,910 --> 01:46:36,330
them myself. Thank you very
much. But we know Glenn owns

1785
01:46:36,330 --> 01:46:40,320
them, myself and Laura Poitras.
Okay, myself and Laura Poitras,

1786
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:41,310
he just did you hear him say

1787
01:46:41,310 --> 01:46:44,010
that interesting to Laura
Poitras aspect,

1788
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,950
because she's the one that
really made the contact. And

1789
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:47,190
she's

1790
01:46:47,190 --> 01:46:50,640
the one she's probably the one.
Yeah, there's something Yeah.

1791
01:46:51,450 --> 01:46:52,530
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1792
01:46:52,559 --> 01:46:57,989
Believe me, Laura portress is
the one and she's the one Lana's

1793
01:46:57,989 --> 01:46:59,249
the face. Yeah,

1794
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,700
she's this she is obviously a
CIA stooge.

1795
01:47:03,540 --> 01:47:05,100
Bore, some may be

1796
01:47:05,370 --> 01:47:08,910
leaving CIA because this,
everything looks like CIA to me

1797
01:47:08,910 --> 01:47:10,350
from her perspective. Well,

1798
01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:13,500
yeah, chaos. I think she's with
chaos.

1799
01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:18,000
But you were the first he turned
to I don't know if I'm right in

1800
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,880
assuming that you have all of
the documents and other people

1801
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,340
have some of the documents. I
mean, tell me if that's true.

1802
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,990
Myself and Laura Poitras have
the full set of documents and

1803
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:29,820
others have portions of them.
You

1804
01:47:29,820 --> 01:47:31,230
have the full portions you
already

1805
01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:34,920
sold. He sold those to them, you
know, we sold them. He sold that

1806
01:47:34,950 --> 01:47:39,180
set of documents. Do you believe
you have the right? You no

1807
01:47:39,180 --> 01:47:41,700
longer work for The Guardian.
You are a freelance journalist.

1808
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:43,950
I know you're hooked up with
some other people. But do you

1809
01:47:43,950 --> 01:47:47,130
believe you and maybe Laura
Laura Poitras have the right to

1810
01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:51,390
decide going forward? What
further to publish.

1811
01:47:51,450 --> 01:47:53,310
But what would your answer be to
that, John?

1812
01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:56,340
Well, if I was him, I'd say yes.

1813
01:47:58,500 --> 01:48:03,330
We are working with the world's
largest media outlets in making

1814
01:48:03,330 --> 01:48:06,270
those choices. So even though
I'm no longer at The Guardian,

1815
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,140
we have started our own media
outlet that has some of the most

1816
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:13,500
experienced and respected
national security editors and

1817
01:48:13,500 --> 01:48:17,220
journalists in the world already
working with our organisation

1818
01:48:17,220 --> 01:48:20,040
when I report in foreign
countries as I did in the last

1819
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:21,660
two weeks in Norway in Holland,
I

1820
01:48:21,660 --> 01:48:25,260
okay. So just wondering, because
I saw this thing I NRC is the

1821
01:48:25,260 --> 01:48:29,610
newspaper that hired him in
Holland. So here's how it works.

1822
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:33,840
He'll go in, in his little
document database. And we know

1823
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,290
that the what the New York Times
has is some very complicated

1824
01:48:37,290 --> 01:48:39,810
thing where it's very hard to
find anything. So we don't know

1825
01:48:39,810 --> 01:48:42,540
if he's working off the same
bundle of information or

1826
01:48:42,540 --> 01:48:46,350
database, he'll find something
regarding the Netherlands, which

1827
01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:50,700
the story was about the NSA,
possibly not stopping spying in

1828
01:48:50,700 --> 01:48:56,130
the Netherlands, a 1960, or
something. And I believe he

1829
01:48:56,130 --> 01:49:02,730
calls up, or he puts out to bid
a story. And NRC, they're

1830
01:49:02,730 --> 01:49:05,040
funded, they got money. They
also have some government

1831
01:49:05,070 --> 01:49:07,830
involvement, some subsidies, I
think I could be wrong about

1832
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:11,610
that. I've just, that's just off
the top of my head. And then he

1833
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:16,350
flies out there, put them up, he
works with their person. And

1834
01:49:16,350 --> 01:49:18,840
they take a document, they
publish a page or two from the

1835
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,140
document, without really any
commentary, because no one will.

1836
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,050
It's just, you know, they're
just publishing slides. And then

1837
01:49:25,050 --> 01:49:28,080
they'll make up a headline and
oh, this is this is what's going

1838
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,860
on. And he said, that's his
business model. That's the

1839
01:49:31,860 --> 01:49:35,010
business model. And so he's
going to travel around the globe

1840
01:49:35,010 --> 01:49:39,150
doing this. And yeah, I think
you can rack up some some nice

1841
01:49:39,150 --> 01:49:41,910
dough that way. And you can keep
it going for quite a while, as

1842
01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:43,350
we'll learn later, in this
interview work

1843
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:46,440
with some of the largest and
most respected media

1844
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:47,940
establishments in those
countries.

1845
01:49:47,970 --> 01:49:50,790
How can you say that these big
media establishments are

1846
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:55,350
respected? It's perpendicular to
what he's always stood for? Yes,

1847
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:55,470
I

1848
01:49:55,470 --> 01:49:58,590
agree. I'm wondering, well, it
was Deborah's customers. Now

1849
01:49:58,590 --> 01:49:59,220
that's why

1850
01:49:59,700 --> 01:50:01,770
I think Thank you, that's the
true answers have

1851
01:50:01,770 --> 01:50:04,050
the same exact process and
structure where I work with

1852
01:50:04,050 --> 01:50:07,020
their editors and their lawyers
and their journalists to make

1853
01:50:07,020 --> 01:50:09,900
these decisions collaboratively.
So there's never been a single

1854
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:13,620
document that has been published
because I myself, have decided

1855
01:50:13,620 --> 01:50:16,320
that we work as a responsible
journalist in a journalistic

1856
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:16,830
structure,

1857
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:22,860
okay. Now, this was, this is
another part of the interview,

1858
01:50:23,130 --> 01:50:28,200
where and he comes back to this
a lot about the safeguarding of

1859
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:34,260
the documents. And in essence,
Glenn is saying that he is

1860
01:50:34,260 --> 01:50:38,400
protecting the documents, which
you can read one or multiple

1861
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:44,220
ways. Is he protecting it for
the CIA and the NSA? Or is he

1862
01:50:44,370 --> 01:50:48,570
protecting against it? The way
he answers it, I think is open

1863
01:50:48,570 --> 01:50:49,500
to interpretation,

1864
01:50:49,530 --> 01:50:54,630
you control information, which
is a vital national security

1865
01:50:54,630 --> 01:50:58,470
interest to hundreds and
hundreds of millions of people

1866
01:50:58,470 --> 01:51:03,270
who live in the United States,
UK and other countries. Surely,

1867
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:06,690
the the wisest course of action
for you as a human being, let

1868
01:51:06,690 --> 01:51:11,310
alone a journalist is to return
that information. whence it

1869
01:51:11,310 --> 01:51:12,900
came, you've loved that

1870
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:18,510
that term, by the way, return it
whence it came. Isn't that

1871
01:51:18,510 --> 01:51:22,080
awesome return from it doesn't
even say from for return it

1872
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,270
whence it came, I think that's
proper English to

1873
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:29,610
probably to return that
information. whence it came,

1874
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,010
you've looked at it, you've
decided that the information you

1875
01:51:32,010 --> 01:51:35,100
can't publish is so sensitive
that it can never be published.

1876
01:51:35,220 --> 01:51:39,060
So should you not get it out of
your possession and return it

1877
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:41,700
whence it can return it whence
it came?

1878
01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:47,130
No, first of all, people who
can't be trusted to safeguard

1879
01:51:47,130 --> 01:51:50,820
the security of that information
are called the NSA and the GCHQ.

1880
01:51:50,850 --> 01:51:53,400
They're the ones who are so
reckless with the information

1881
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,820
that they put it on systems that
are accessed by 10s of 1000s of

1882
01:51:56,820 --> 01:51:59,100
people and lost control over the
documents.

1883
01:51:59,250 --> 01:52:01,920
That's very interesting. He's
saying that, do you think it's

1884
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:06,060
possible that more people have
taken that information from the

1885
01:52:06,060 --> 01:52:09,960
servers that 10s of the chances
that if 10s of 1000s of people

1886
01:52:10,410 --> 01:52:12,090
had access to them that more?

1887
01:52:12,510 --> 01:52:14,700
Oh, I'm sure there's some well,
they were using it for

1888
01:52:14,700 --> 01:52:17,100
blackmail? I mean, they were
using it for okay. I mean, there

1889
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:20,160
were some moments where they
they admitted, at least I think,

1890
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:24,390
in Congress that some some rogue
employees were checking up on

1891
01:52:24,390 --> 01:52:27,720
their old girlfriends using this
stuff. Yeah, listening in on

1892
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,360
conversation. So yeah, I think
there's probably a bunch of

1893
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,570
people who have collected chunks
of it, not necessarily the exact

1894
01:52:33,570 --> 01:52:36,870
same chunk, because it was
probably collected. I think,

1895
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:40,110
Snowden, for example. And you've
seen this on on systems. I mean,

1896
01:52:40,110 --> 01:52:42,210
some people will do it
personally. You keep all your

1897
01:52:42,210 --> 01:52:46,410
PowerPoints in one folder. And
then that's the main folder that

1898
01:52:46,410 --> 01:52:46,800
everyone

1899
01:52:46,830 --> 01:52:48,150
right dips into a

1900
01:52:48,150 --> 01:52:51,240
corporation to create new
PowerPoint, flower price, and

1901
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,850
I gotta see, where's that let me
grab the PowerPoint folder and

1902
01:52:53,850 --> 01:52:57,120
see if there's anything in here
I can use. You take a slide from

1903
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:00,450
here and a slide from there. And
then you change the template. So

1904
01:53:00,450 --> 01:53:02,790
the slide all of a sudden, they
all looked like they you put it

1905
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:06,870
together as one slide show. And
so So I think Snowden for one

1906
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:10,680
thing, saw that that cache of
PowerPoint cache

1907
01:53:10,710 --> 01:53:11,790
cache, as they say,

1908
01:53:13,170 --> 01:53:16,650
the cache and she grabbed the
whole thing. And then he

1909
01:53:16,650 --> 01:53:19,620
probably saw some other folders
of interest in so he whatever he

1910
01:53:19,620 --> 01:53:22,140
has, but I'm sure other guys
have grabbed other stuff, but

1911
01:53:22,140 --> 01:53:24,750
they're a little more less
likely to come out here. They're

1912
01:53:24,750 --> 01:53:27,480
getting good. They got a good
job in an environment like this

1913
01:53:27,480 --> 01:53:29,160
and let's note and take the heat
and

1914
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,700
I can always sell something in
dribs and drabs later. Yeah, and

1915
01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:33,360
it doesn't matter,

1916
01:53:33,390 --> 01:53:36,120
whereas we've maintained very
tight control over the document.

1917
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,970
Secondly, I never said that all
of the documents in my

1918
01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:41,010
possession that haven't yet been
published are ones that

1919
01:53:41,010 --> 01:53:43,290
shouldn't be published. In fact,
there's a lot more reporting

1920
01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:46,920
that I intend to do that other
media outlets intend to do in

1921
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,500
publishing these documents.
There are a lot of these are

1922
01:53:49,500 --> 01:53:52,980
extremely newsworthy how much
more I mean, I haven't count I

1923
01:53:52,980 --> 01:53:56,160
don't have an exam. I don't have
an exact count. But I can tell

1924
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,700
you that if I had to guess we
are still in the first part. The

1925
01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:03,930
first half of the reporting the
majority of reporting on these

1926
01:54:03,930 --> 01:54:07,560
documents for sure is reporting
that has yet to be done but that

1927
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,190
will be done.

1928
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:12,000
Okay, there's little information
we didn't have. Yeah, that's

1929
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,700
good one. Hit that in other
words, he's dribbling it out.

1930
01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:17,760
And of course, the way I
understand it, it's pretty much

1931
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,080
all they can but he

1932
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:23,010
spent the first you know, the
first quarter of it to reel in

1933
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:27,810
the big money to monetize this
which is alMihdhar appeal as we

1934
01:54:27,810 --> 01:54:32,250
call him, and I'm sorry he's not
really doing journalism I'm

1935
01:54:32,250 --> 01:54:38,010
sorry it's not he is publishing
slides and and making

1936
01:54:38,670 --> 01:54:42,750
assumptions about what they mean
he's not doesn't have sources

1937
01:54:43,110 --> 01:54:46,830
lot that I've seen that back it
up that confirm he does know so

1938
01:54:46,830 --> 01:54:49,860
he's, it's not really
journalism, however, should

1939
01:54:49,860 --> 01:54:55,950
we expect that you will use most
of the material Edward Snowden

1940
01:54:55,950 --> 01:54:57,240
gave you ultimately

1941
01:54:59,430 --> 01:55:03,030
I'm going to use Most of the
material that's newsworthy? How

1942
01:55:03,030 --> 01:55:06,930
much of that is part of the
pile. I can't quantify it for

1943
01:55:06,930 --> 01:55:09,990
you right now. But like I said,
there's a lot more reporting to

1944
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:12,600
do, because we're not the kind
of journalists to just go around

1945
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,220
repeating what the government
says, No,

1946
01:55:14,220 --> 01:55:17,160
you just go around publishing
slides and saying this is the

1947
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:17,970
truth and

1948
01:55:17,970 --> 01:55:20,730
demanding that everyone accepted
as true without evidence. Were

1949
01:55:20,730 --> 01:55:22,950
the kind of journalist who
believe that the way you hold

1950
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:25,320
power accountable is by
reporting on what the truth

1951
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,720
actually is. And it's the
documents that reveal that

1952
01:55:27,780 --> 01:55:31,440
right? I'm just gonna have to
disagree. I want I want to

1953
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:35,880
agree, but that's just bullshit.
The documents do not hold any

1954
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:37,080
specific truth.

1955
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,350
I know that but if you're
republishing, slide 56 from a

1956
01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:43,500
deck that's out of context, it's
out of context, and we need

1957
01:55:43,500 --> 01:55:47,460
context. Context is everything
context is the truth, if any,

1958
01:55:47,610 --> 01:55:50,970
this whole pile of crap needs to
just go to WikiLeaks and be

1959
01:55:50,970 --> 01:55:54,600
published as a giant chunk, if
anything, the chips fall where

1960
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,940
they may, and yeah, you're gonna
probably compromise look who

1961
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,270
don't care about compromise the
what's her name, Valerie plam

1962
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,650
was compromised by her own
government, and had to retire as

1963
01:56:04,650 --> 01:56:09,360
a CIA field operative. So I
mean, yeah, there, somebody's

1964
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,850
gonna get busted. And it's gonna
be, you know, they're gonna have

1965
01:56:11,850 --> 01:56:15,180
to quit the business. But given
fair warning,

1966
01:56:15,810 --> 01:56:19,800
probably if, because, you know,
we know that the way this really

1967
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:24,090
works is they take a slide, they
take a deck, they go to the

1968
01:56:24,090 --> 01:56:26,730
authorities and say, What can we
not publish, they say, don't

1969
01:56:26,730 --> 01:56:30,330
publish this redact that which
they do. And this is admitted,

1970
01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:34,230
this is not like some stunning
news. And then and then they

1971
01:56:34,230 --> 01:56:37,770
publish, you know, and probably
whatever is disadvantageous for

1972
01:56:37,770 --> 01:56:41,370
whoever's is saying, it's okay
to publish. If we really had all

1973
01:56:41,370 --> 01:56:44,760
the documents, it probably would
be much worse than it is now.

1974
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,910
Because what would fall out I
think would be the blackmail

1975
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:53,580
would be the the industrial
espionage. I think it would be

1976
01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:54,720
much much worse.

1977
01:56:54,780 --> 01:56:56,790
Yeah, I think it would be too
and I think it's a lot of

1978
01:56:56,790 --> 01:57:00,300
blackmail. And I think this
whole terrorism nonsense is a

1979
01:57:00,300 --> 01:57:03,750
smokescreen for for a
blackmailing operation done by

1980
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:06,030
the government against the
citizens I mean, they say they

1981
01:57:06,030 --> 01:57:09,840
have the goods on some truther
that's in Hollywood

1982
01:57:09,870 --> 01:57:12,060
tell me about this because this
you had this in the newsletter I

1983
01:57:12,060 --> 01:57:12,900
hadn't heard there's

1984
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:15,810
well there's not it's pretty
vague it's been it's I think in

1985
01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:18,750
metal filter had some references
to it. Wow, you still use metal

1986
01:57:18,750 --> 01:57:22,890
filter? It's actually not both I
get I get routed through metal

1987
01:57:22,890 --> 01:57:26,250
filters from buzzkill juniors,
member I haven't

1988
01:57:26,250 --> 01:57:29,850
used metal filter in years you
should look at it is going back

1989
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:30,240
up with

1990
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,440
stuff. How do you and supposedly
there's some guy that they've

1991
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:38,610
got the whose guess he hit?
There's some connection to this

1992
01:57:38,610 --> 01:57:42,660
truth or Hollywood star? who
apparently likes really some

1993
01:57:42,660 --> 01:57:45,750
weird type of porno? I don't
know if it's the shame nails

1994
01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:46,410
stuff?

1995
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,270
No, hey, that's not weird.

1996
01:57:49,230 --> 01:57:54,030
Are they any of this? Kind of
offbeat, let's say, I know how

1997
01:57:54,030 --> 01:57:56,970
much this is important to you.
Maybe it's about you.

1998
01:57:58,470 --> 01:58:02,640
I think about it, they're gonna
be really disappointed. I don't

1999
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:04,110
care what you think about me.

2000
01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:09,780
But the point is, is that this
blackmail idea is just so

2001
01:58:09,780 --> 01:58:13,650
obvious. I mean, that's exactly
what you use this for, to get to

2002
01:58:13,650 --> 01:58:16,170
your political enemies. And
that, again, takes us back to

2003
01:58:16,170 --> 01:58:19,890
the holder clip, where the
senator asked him, you know,

2004
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,880
under oath, can this be used for
political advantage? And he

2005
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:25,620
wouldn't answer the question.
Yeah.

2006
01:58:27,810 --> 01:58:31,470
Exactly. I have one more clip
from Greenwald. If you're

2007
01:58:31,470 --> 01:58:32,100
interested. It's a

2008
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:34,500
little while I love listening to
the green. All right. This is

2009
01:58:35,940 --> 01:58:39,120
just the last one we have here.
He's asked very, very specific

2010
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:45,720
question about the possibility
of foreign powers, uh, having

2011
01:58:46,050 --> 01:58:51,060
this information that
intelligence officers have said,

2012
01:58:51,090 --> 01:58:54,720
well, hold on a second, this is
really damaging, you know,

2013
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,570
because now I guess terrorists
aren't using Skype, whatever.

2014
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:01,440
But he doesn't answer the
question, which is interesting

2015
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:05,190
to me. And I think that's
probably his legal background.

2016
01:59:06,060 --> 01:59:09,780
Speaking, he answers it in quite
a different way, which is not a

2017
01:59:09,780 --> 01:59:12,480
bad I'm not totally against what
he's saying here. It's just

2018
01:59:12,510 --> 01:59:13,950
interesting doesn't answer the
question you

2019
01:59:13,980 --> 01:59:17,250
don't trust plainly don't trust
all of the security chiefs.

2020
01:59:17,250 --> 01:59:19,890
You've lined up to say that what
you've done that stories you've

2021
01:59:19,890 --> 01:59:23,460
written, have fundamentally
undermined security and aided

2022
01:59:23,460 --> 01:59:26,250
and abetted terrorism. I'll just
point you to the evidence of

2023
01:59:26,250 --> 01:59:29,460
Oliver Robins, the deputy
national security adviser for

2024
01:59:29,460 --> 01:59:33,270
intelligence in the UK Cabinet
Office, who says and he said

2025
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:36,840
this, in written evidence in a
court case, it is known that

2026
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,510
this in the CS material is
personal information that would

2027
01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:43,230
allow intelligence staff to be
identified, including those

2028
01:59:43,230 --> 01:59:46,860
deployed overseas. He says the
government has had to assume

2029
01:59:46,860 --> 01:59:51,240
that copies of information held
by Mr. Snowden may now be held

2030
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:56,730
by one or more other states.
You're saying he is not telling

2031
01:59:56,730 --> 01:59:57,420
the truth.

2032
01:59:59,490 --> 02:00:03,510
There is this thing called the
Iraq War in which the US and the

2033
02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:06,480
UK government's persuaded their
media outlets and their

2034
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,930
populations to support an
aggressive attack on another

2035
02:00:09,930 --> 02:00:13,410
country by making one false
claim after the next designed to

2036
02:00:13,410 --> 02:00:15,690
scare the population into
believing that there was a

2037
02:00:15,690 --> 02:00:18,810
security threat that didn't
actually exist, that they had to

2038
02:00:18,810 --> 02:00:22,920
go to war in order to stop. what
journalism is about is it's

2039
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:26,550
based on the premise that when
people like Mr. Robbins and

2040
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:30,780
others who exercise power in the
dark, make those kinds of claims

2041
02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:34,050
to justify their own power,
they're often lying.

2042
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:38,790
That's not what journalism is.
Journalism is about to grin. But

2043
02:00:38,790 --> 02:00:41,130
your point is valid. But that's
not

2044
02:00:41,130 --> 02:00:44,100
laid back to that. Because this
is like one of those great

2045
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:48,030
sentences where you throw
something in and you never talk

2046
02:00:48,030 --> 02:00:49,890
about it. No. And you just play
that again.

2047
02:00:52,110 --> 02:00:54,210
Just go back a little bit more
hold on a second. Oh, yeah. No,

2048
02:00:54,210 --> 02:00:55,380
he's not going to answer the
question,

2049
02:00:55,950 --> 02:00:58,770
which the US and the UK
government's persuaded their

2050
02:00:58,770 --> 02:01:02,040
media outlets and their
populations to support an

2051
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:05,310
aggressive attack on another
country by making one false

2052
02:01:05,310 --> 02:01:08,160
claim after the next designed to
scare the population into

2053
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:10,470
believing that there was a
security threat that didn't

2054
02:01:10,470 --> 02:01:14,400
actually exist, that they had to
go to war in order to stop. what

2055
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:18,120
journalism is about is it's
based on the premise that when

2056
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:21,960
people like Mr. Robbins and
others who exercise power in the

2057
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:26,010
dark, make those kinds of claims
to justify their own power.

2058
02:01:26,130 --> 02:01:29,430
They're often lying they that's
that's good crackpot

2059
02:01:29,430 --> 02:01:29,970
or he is

2060
02:01:30,780 --> 02:01:33,690
nuts. What he said, Yeah, that's
what I would journalism is

2061
02:01:33,690 --> 02:01:37,950
about. But here, let me do it.
what journalism is about is when

2062
02:01:37,950 --> 02:01:43,770
Mr. XYZ says something he's
lying, generally, generally,

2063
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:46,620
I'll find out. But let's let's
This is like the one of those

2064
02:01:46,620 --> 02:01:49,110
things that we found these these
kinds of crazy sentences where

2065
02:01:49,110 --> 02:01:52,710
you say one thing, perform Okay,
well, the way we're gonna solve

2066
02:01:52,710 --> 02:01:55,410
that problem is and then you
talk about, you know, the

2067
02:01:55,410 --> 02:01:57,990
theatre lines are too long. And
what we've got to do you know,

2068
02:01:57,990 --> 02:02:01,590
just talking about that
performative. Yeah, it was even

2069
02:02:01,590 --> 02:02:04,530
worse than that. It's just like
a kind of a layered

2070
02:02:04,530 --> 02:02:05,310
performative,

2071
02:02:05,519 --> 02:02:09,419
or in the dark, make those kinds
of claims to justify their own

2072
02:02:09,419 --> 02:02:13,019
power. They're often lying, they
often tell things to the

2073
02:02:13,019 --> 02:02:16,049
population, that turns out to be
untrue. And the job of a

2074
02:02:16,049 --> 02:02:19,679
journalist is not to investigate
other journalists who are

2075
02:02:19,709 --> 02:02:21,929
investigating those powerful
officials. It's I think,

2076
02:02:21,930 --> 02:02:24,930
sometimes that is the job of a
journalist, I'm sorry.

2077
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,290
Sometimes, yes. Are you kidding
me?

2078
02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:32,850
To try and be responsible when
telling their viewers and

2079
02:02:32,850 --> 02:02:35,610
readers what government
officials are saying and then to

2080
02:02:35,610 --> 02:02:38,790
assess whether there's evidence
for it. That's my role. You

2081
02:02:39,570 --> 02:02:40,830
don't you don't have to rely on

2082
02:02:41,580 --> 02:02:44,490
anything so explosive, I have to
challenge it. You're accusing

2083
02:02:44,610 --> 02:02:47,970
the most senior intelligence
officials on both sides of the

2084
02:02:47,970 --> 02:02:52,140
Atlantic of routine and
systematic lying. What is your

2085
02:02:52,140 --> 02:02:54,750
evidence? You say, look at the
Iraq War. But what is your

2086
02:02:54,750 --> 02:02:59,100
evidence that when people like
the head of GCHQ, and the head

2087
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:02,880
of MI six see that there is real
evidence that since your

2088
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:07,170
revelations, the sorts of
communications conducted by

2089
02:03:07,170 --> 02:03:09,090
terrorists has changed because
they've

2090
02:03:09,780 --> 02:03:14,790
stopped stop? Now he should come
back with where's their evidence

2091
02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:16,350
and throw it back at the guy?
Yes, he?

2092
02:03:16,590 --> 02:03:20,130
Well, this is so it's funny you
say that? Because that's exactly

2093
02:03:20,130 --> 02:03:23,760
what I was expecting. Exactly
what I was expecting him to say

2094
02:03:23,790 --> 02:03:26,340
they've learned from you. Where
is your evidence? Those

2095
02:03:26,340 --> 02:03:28,260
intelligence chiefs are lying.

2096
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:32,820
First of all, I think the Iraq
War is a pretty significant

2097
02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:38,880
city. If you want to if you want
to scream if you want to, if you

2098
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:42,360
want to scream at me and make
all kinds of filibustering

2099
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,940
remarks, I can just disconnect
and you can do that. But if you

2100
02:03:44,940 --> 02:03:46,140
want, what a dick,

2101
02:03:46,860 --> 02:03:48,180
that's bad. That's real.

2102
02:03:48,180 --> 02:03:51,270
Okay. Well, as a lawyer, he
usually he would he was, I don't

2103
02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:52,950
know why he didn't have that
rehearsed.

2104
02:03:52,980 --> 02:03:54,750
Well, let's listen to the right
to ask me a question. You're

2105
02:03:54,750 --> 02:03:58,080
gonna give me time to actually
answer it. The evidence that

2106
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:00,390
government officials lie is
found in history.

2107
02:04:00,420 --> 02:04:03,690
He's He's saying the because
he's very smart. The evidence

2108
02:04:03,690 --> 02:04:06,900
that government officials lie,
not the evidence in this case,

2109
02:04:06,900 --> 02:04:08,490
but they lost things

2110
02:04:08,490 --> 02:04:11,910
like the Iraq War, when the US
and the UK destroyed a country

2111
02:04:11,910 --> 02:04:15,150
of 26 million people based on
lies they told over the course

2112
02:04:15,150 --> 02:04:18,510
of two years to their
population. And if you look at

2113
02:04:18,510 --> 02:04:21,120
what happens in countries where
there's constitutional

2114
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:23,850
guarantees of a free press,
which I know doesn't include the

2115
02:04:23,850 --> 02:04:27,660
UK, but in most western
democracies, what you find is

2116
02:04:27,690 --> 02:04:31,800
all sorts of people who have
created those protections have

2117
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:34,770
done so based on the recognition
that people in power,

2118
02:04:34,770 --> 02:04:38,040
specifically national security
officials will routinely lie to

2119
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,220
their population. The evidence
that I have is that three

2120
02:04:41,220 --> 02:04:44,040
Democratic senators just two
weeks ago in the United States

2121
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,290
who are on the Intelligence
Committee and have access to

2122
02:04:46,290 --> 02:04:50,880
classified information came out
and said that the claims of NSA

2123
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:53,340
officials and others that these
programmes have stopped

2124
02:04:53,340 --> 02:04:56,730
terrorist plots is completely
false that there is no evidence

2125
02:04:56,730 --> 02:04:57,150
for it.

2126
02:04:57,510 --> 02:05:00,180
And he wins with that one
because that's what we We've

2127
02:05:00,180 --> 02:05:03,510
uncovered as well. Not even
uncovered. We just played C

2128
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:04,020
span.

2129
02:05:05,549 --> 02:05:08,459
Yeah, there's nothing to
uncover. It's there. It's a

2130
02:05:08,699 --> 02:05:09,539
fact. It's

2131
02:05:09,540 --> 02:05:10,440
just there. He

2132
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:14,520
just played on C span. Well, he
blew that one up. I think I

2133
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:17,220
think he had a better shot. I
call him the guy out for the

2134
02:05:17,220 --> 02:05:23,310
claims of the GCHQ guys. They've
changed our game plan thanks to

2135
02:05:23,310 --> 02:05:25,950
these guys. And there's no
evidence of this at all.

2136
02:05:25,980 --> 02:05:27,780
I totally agree. I totally
agree.

2137
02:05:30,150 --> 02:05:33,090
All right. That was entertaining
a little bit.

2138
02:05:33,690 --> 02:05:36,510
I'm gonna show my son moved by
donating to no agenda.

2139
02:05:36,570 --> 02:05:39,690
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2140
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:52,020
on the short you have a few
donors here, including Adam

2141
02:05:52,020 --> 02:05:57,720
Smith. If that is indeed Israel
name $193.08 from Calgary,

2142
02:05:58,260 --> 02:06:02,520
Alberta where all the money is
puts me your knighthood so Anil,

2143
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:08,640
how you got $111.11 to make it
rain for Christina. If possible

2144
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:11,880
with the additional 8187 81 be
the only number whose square

2145
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:16,380
root is also the sum of the two
numbers in 97 is the largest two

2146
02:06:16,380 --> 02:06:22,290
digit prime number to nice
celebrate. Can I get an Oreo is

2147
02:06:22,290 --> 02:06:28,140
better than crack? We will find
that yeah, no, I got it. I

2148
02:06:28,140 --> 02:06:29,010
got it. What else?

2149
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:31,860
Oh by guy falling off the cliff
and then karma.

2150
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:38,730
Oreos are just as addictive as
cocaine. You've got

2151
02:06:40,980 --> 02:06:44,790
nailed this, or Smitty. Now I do
have a we want to do a quick is

2152
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:46,710
the only one the only 111 11

2153
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:52,290
Oh, this is the only one. Yes.
Oh, hold on a second. Did he

2154
02:06:52,290 --> 02:06:54,480
wanted to what do you say wanted
to be served Smitty? Is that on

2155
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:57,000
ice wonders media, isn't it?
Yeah, it's on the list that way.

2156
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:59,550
Okay. Well, we'll

2157
02:06:59,550 --> 02:07:01,140
turn on the echo and I was just
doing

2158
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,930
a quickie Hold on. I didn't
realise it was just one we can

2159
02:07:06,930 --> 02:07:09,270
do that. You are good to go.

2160
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:12,900
Ladies and gentlemen, a big
round of applause for Christina.

2161
02:07:12,900 --> 02:07:16,200
She comes off the stage. Her
hobbies include stamp collecting

2162
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:20,970
and amateur forestry. So get
your logs ready for Christina

2163
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:21,840
larger script.

2164
02:07:24,930 --> 02:07:27,450
Excellent. Well done. Well
played, sir.

2165
02:07:27,870 --> 02:07:31,620
I think I can get a job doing
this. Just a bunch of cute one

2166
02:07:31,620 --> 02:07:38,040
liners, Jason Doolin. And lots
of wages in Nevada 12358. And he

2167
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,320
has a donation letter. I sent
you a copy of this.

2168
02:07:41,220 --> 02:07:43,590
Yeah. Do you want me to read it?
Or? Yeah, because I

2169
02:07:43,620 --> 02:07:44,550
don't have my email.

2170
02:07:45,630 --> 02:07:48,330
That's why you send it to me so
you wouldn't have to like deal

2171
02:07:48,330 --> 02:07:52,380
with it? Yes. In the morning,
Korean Dvorak. I'd like to thank

2172
02:07:52,380 --> 02:07:55,560
you guys for an excellent show
day in and day out. I work

2173
02:07:55,590 --> 02:07:59,040
whatever the day is just like
you guys. Listening to you guys.

2174
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:02,760
while I work. This last holiday
was a true pleasure. I have a

2175
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,070
few things here you might be
interested in just like the blue

2176
02:08:05,070 --> 02:08:08,100
dots. There are green dots, the
green dots if your jurisdiction

2177
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:12,870
uses them should mark automatic
gates. Usually you will find an

2178
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:15,720
egress into gated communities
these tell emergency vehicle

2179
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:18,720
operators where gates are. This
matters because these gates have

2180
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:21,120
sensors to open for the
emergency vehicle. I didn't know

2181
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:24,150
that. I have a 20 month old
daughter my wife and I have been

2182
02:08:24,150 --> 02:08:26,040
talking about educating our
daughter your common core

2183
02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:28,890
reporting has been appreciated.
I certainly think you guys are

2184
02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:31,830
right homeschooling is the only
way I have seen some of the John

2185
02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:35,820
Gatto stuff. John Taylor Gatto.
Here's another interesting

2186
02:08:35,820 --> 02:08:41,970
person Charlotte iser bite is
that Miss eyes iserbyt iser bite

2187
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:46,230
I S E. RB YT. Has the claim that
the American education system is

2188
02:08:46,230 --> 02:08:49,320
meant to dumb down our society.
Yeah, this is what I've read

2189
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:52,920
this dude, Head of Education
under Reagan. She does have some

2190
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,290
other interesting claims. That
could be fun rabbit holes if you

2191
02:08:55,290 --> 02:09:00,060
have the time. Yeah, no, I got
the time, of course. To give me

2192
02:09:00,060 --> 02:09:03,660
some time codes in a very
thorough, so just lots of other

2193
02:09:03,660 --> 02:09:06,930
stuff. In next Oh, is it
appropriate to call out a

2194
02:09:06,930 --> 02:09:11,190
buddy's wife to the stage? I
didn't think I will. I don't

2195
02:09:11,190 --> 02:09:13,920
think I will this time around.
Well, first of all, yes.

2196
02:09:14,370 --> 02:09:15,570
I don't think so. I think you

2197
02:09:15,570 --> 02:09:18,270
can call it a buddy's wife to
the stage if you want to bop in

2198
02:09:18,270 --> 02:09:19,020
the face.

2199
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:23,520
What do you mean, and it's that
I think it's inappropriate.

2200
02:09:24,690 --> 02:09:32,280
The answer is no. This is not
okay. Wow. picky. Well, thank

2201
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:37,590
you very much. Jason. For the
125 38 Italie appreciating I

2202
02:09:37,590 --> 02:09:37,710
have

2203
02:09:37,710 --> 02:09:40,830
these different will read notes.
A couple of notes that

2204
02:09:41,460 --> 02:09:42,900
I need to interject elected note

2205
02:09:42,900 --> 02:09:46,860
to interject for one second. Did
you get some silver coins? No,

2206
02:09:46,890 --> 02:09:48,750
not in the postbox. When did you
last go?

2207
02:09:49,290 --> 02:09:54,720
The yesterday really? Huh? You
got silver coins? And I'm

2208
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:58,620
pretty sure you got them too. I
didn't get any from Dave Jones.

2209
02:09:59,100 --> 02:10:02,070
And he said here are Five one
out yet and believe me you got

2210
02:10:02,070 --> 02:10:04,020
him because I know he asked if
he should send you a letter

2211
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:09,360
yesterday. Well, the day will
come here a five one ounce

2212
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:11,520
silver coins I've picked up over
the years that I thought you

2213
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:14,400
guys would get a kick out of at
the current silver spot price of

2214
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:18,960
$19.40. That should come out
close to $100. The Bush and

2215
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:22,260
Cheney coins are from a limited
run set called the Neo coins

2216
02:10:22,260 --> 02:10:25,590
that was never finished. If you
read on the air, please tell any

2217
02:10:25,590 --> 02:10:28,590
producers in Central Alabama I'd
like to do a no agenda meet up

2218
02:10:28,590 --> 02:10:31,200
in Birmingham. If anyone's
interested, they can get my

2219
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:33,960
email from Adam and Dave Jones
and I have been working together

2220
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:37,890
for many many years. On some on
the freedom Controller software

2221
02:10:37,890 --> 02:10:41,040
projects. I'm surprised I think
you should be getting these as

2222
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:45,750
well. These are new mastic li
Numinous humanistically. What is

2223
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:49,860
new monistic new Newman well the
new mystically sealed, and they

2224
02:10:49,860 --> 02:10:53,970
are indeed silver coins and one
of them is George W. Bush, which

2225
02:10:53,970 --> 02:10:58,740
is the beautiful coins. Then one
is Lakota which is the Indian

2226
02:10:58,740 --> 02:11:03,570
dude. And one of them is
liberty. And then one of them is

2227
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:04,650
John Galt.

2228
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:06,660
Oh God, but

2229
02:11:06,660 --> 02:11:10,230
here's the coolest. And I showed
this coin to Mickey and she went

2230
02:11:10,230 --> 02:11:16,470
oh my god that's John a coin.
It's actually Dick Cheney. And

2231
02:11:16,470 --> 02:11:19,860
it's funny if you look at Dick
Cheney Yeah, yeah. Did you know

2232
02:11:19,860 --> 02:11:24,240
that? Were the glasses that in?
That's pretty uncanny. John

2233
02:11:25,019 --> 02:11:25,859
Well, there you have it.

2234
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,460
So anyway, I don't know maybe
I'm wrong. I thought that you

2235
02:11:29,460 --> 02:11:33,210
were getting coins as well. So
you may be If not,

2236
02:11:33,450 --> 02:11:36,090
keep an eye out. I'll go back on
Wednesday again.

2237
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:39,960
If not, I'll be sure when next
time I'm out there I'll we'll do

2238
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:40,050
a

2239
02:11:40,050 --> 02:11:43,260
read one more note, which is
from Sir Lauren Osterman because

2240
02:11:43,260 --> 02:11:49,080
he sent it twice this amount in
SILS. Austria, he forgot to

2241
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:52,140
deliver his kindly ask for help.
He's a he's a bone of our night

2242
02:11:52,140 --> 02:11:57,690
so we do what he says somebody's
health karma for I guess someone

2243
02:11:57,690 --> 02:12:00,630
himself or his wife or somebody
but he needs health karma and

2244
02:12:00,630 --> 02:12:05,250
let's give it to him. Course. No
problem. You're Scott karma. He

2245
02:12:05,250 --> 02:12:08,370
says it last week's few last
shows recently have been

2246
02:12:08,460 --> 02:12:11,190
stellar. Like good word. And
that's nice. Well, we try

2247
02:12:11,190 --> 02:12:17,070
healing. Yeah. Kailyn nice store
in Northville. Michigan. $99.99.

2248
02:12:17,070 --> 02:12:17,520
Mac you

2249
02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:20,910
haven't gotten one of those in a
long time.

2250
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:25,650
Upcoming night. Matthew J.
Milligan in Spanish Springs

2251
02:12:25,650 --> 02:12:33,090
Nevada. Says it's just she likes
to show put it that way. Vincent

2252
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:38,400
vite Boyson saqa sevens and
burning it felt house and felt

2253
02:12:38,670 --> 02:12:44,010
that fit fit hoisin felt housing
belt housing.

2254
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,380
What is that? All right. Yeah,
close enough.

2255
02:12:50,340 --> 02:12:58,590
That is housing in Groningen.
This sack of sevens Stu coats

2256
02:12:58,590 --> 02:13:04,470
6981 and Chelmsford. And he's
actually 6969 plus some thing to

2257
02:13:04,500 --> 02:13:07,380
complete his knighthood which
will be knighted later. And now.

2258
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:16,410
Recently, the 60 Niners are both
from the UK. Michael Gonzalez in

2259
02:13:16,740 --> 02:13:24,870
London 6969 and Brian Barrow in
Wootton Bassett. Nice, which is

2260
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:26,640
my favourite place that n

2261
02:13:26,670 --> 02:13:29,100
powers I'm not even going to
close it out because it's only

2262
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:30,480
like two. Nope, we

2263
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:36,210
don't close it up. Matt McNulty
6666 In Chicago, Chicago,

2264
02:13:37,260 --> 02:13:43,380
Michael Siegenthaler in Parts
Unknown 6666 or Ryan Birgit in

2265
02:13:43,380 --> 02:13:47,130
both fell Washington $60.15. And
we dropped down at Benjamin

2266
02:13:47,130 --> 02:13:52,290
winters in Dayton, Ohio. 5768 to
Ralph Smith in Brooklyn, New

2267
02:13:52,290 --> 02:13:58,980
York. 5690 Martin Krupp QA in
Jacksonville, Florida. He wants

2268
02:13:58,980 --> 02:14:01,770
some job karma we'll give him at
the end of the listing here.

2269
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:06,240
Hold on. And he's 55 Who is on
the dime w goes on the dime for

2270
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:11,100
John Tucker in Omaha, Nebraska.
5111 from Roy Pingel in

2271
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:13,440
Brooklyn, Connecticut in
Brooklyn. You guys should have a

2272
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:18,450
meet up. And then we have Carl
Baron in Malmo again in Sweden

2273
02:14:18,450 --> 02:14:22,290
was commonly giving us $50 And
these are all $50 donations.

2274
02:14:22,650 --> 02:14:28,260
Greg Brunson and Kenosha,
Wisconsin. 's Radek, zag grew up

2275
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:33,630
grabbing great Zagg Grobe Bell
knee,

2276
02:14:33,900 --> 02:14:36,990
Zagreb Eleni De Graaff learning
how to grab them.

2277
02:14:37,410 --> 02:14:40,200
Yeah, something like that. That
would be the way he'd say it in

2278
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:48,480
Ontario, Canada. He also wants
some karma. Dame Jessica Walters

2279
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:52,290
in Geelong, Victoria, and we
have her down for a birthday

2280
02:14:52,290 --> 02:14:56,970
shout out to her husband. And
finally bogged in lead Qin DRO.

2281
02:14:57,420 --> 02:15:00,060
If that is indeed his real name
in Irvine, Texas. I

2282
02:15:00,060 --> 02:15:02,820
want to go back to Matt McNulty
just to read because he has a

2283
02:15:03,060 --> 02:15:07,620
birthday request. Give us a sack
of six is dear fruity Vijay from

2284
02:15:07,620 --> 02:15:10,320
my childhood and old tech geek
from whatever hole you crawled

2285
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:14,100
out of. It's just always a good
opener. I'd like to take this

2286
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:16,650
time to thank you for your
courage as well as punching my

2287
02:15:16,650 --> 02:15:19,470
dad in the mouth for his
birthday today. Please accept

2288
02:15:19,470 --> 02:15:22,080
this sack of sixes on my dad's
behalf and remind him that Fox

2289
02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:25,470
News is run by the Democrats.
Thank you, dad for the love of

2290
02:15:25,470 --> 02:15:28,530
history bestowed upon me and
thank you Trudy and Anthony for

2291
02:15:28,530 --> 02:15:31,290
giving me the stomach to muddle
through the madness. I could use

2292
02:15:31,290 --> 02:15:33,780
a deducing from my first
donation and would appreciate

2293
02:15:33,780 --> 02:15:36,780
you adding Kevin McNulty to the
infamous birthday lists.

2294
02:15:36,780 --> 02:15:41,100
Sincerely Magmic Vader, future
Baron of Logan Square. So I want

2295
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:45,750
to make sure you've been dee
doo. Everybody wanted some karma

2296
02:15:45,750 --> 02:15:49,830
bend over here cons. You've got
karma

2297
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:59,280
you got rather rude of him.
Right? Fruity v j from my

2298
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:04,260
childhood. I will tech geek from
whatever hole I Crowl crawled

2299
02:16:04,260 --> 02:16:05,400
out of I wear

2300
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:06,930
that banner with pride

2301
02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,680
to vorak.org/n A.

2302
02:16:19,470 --> 02:16:24,600
says Happy Birthday to Maggie.
McNulty Dame Jessica Walters is

2303
02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:27,570
Happy Birthday Mr. Troy Walters
celebrating tomorrow Avenue

2304
02:16:27,570 --> 02:16:30,990
human resource corner Walters
born on the 23rd of November Hey

2305
02:16:30,990 --> 02:16:35,910
been busy. And Francis James
McClure, and James and the floor

2306
02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:40,890
celebrating on November 30 and
the 29th 65 and 29 years

2307
02:16:40,890 --> 02:16:43,530
respectively. And it's good
hearing from you guys. Thank you

2308
02:16:43,530 --> 02:16:46,380
very much for the donation.
You're partly responsible for us

2309
02:16:46,380 --> 02:16:48,960
being here in Austin, Texas
happy birthday from everybody

2310
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:54,660
said the best podcast in the
universe. And then for some

2311
02:16:54,660 --> 02:16:56,370
reason we have quite the list.

2312
02:16:57,480 --> 02:17:00,120
It's kind of weird, but you
know, eventually people

2313
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:04,860
get there you know? That's what
adds up. It really does. You

2314
02:17:04,860 --> 02:17:07,530
know, did you read that story?
It was kind of a distraction of

2315
02:17:07,530 --> 02:17:11,280
the week about the Seattle man
who clipped coupons but left

2316
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:13,530
$180 million legacy

2317
02:17:13,740 --> 02:17:17,670
This is a fractal story I've
heard all my life. One of the

2318
02:17:17,670 --> 02:17:21,450
stories oh it was the guy was a
janitor and he died and they

2319
02:17:21,450 --> 02:17:27,030
found $250,000 in stocks in his
dresser drawers.

2320
02:17:27,209 --> 02:17:30,989
Well this is 180 million. That's
a lot it could have been at

2321
02:17:30,989 --> 02:17:35,849
least a mil for the no agenda
show. People if you're if you're

2322
02:17:35,849 --> 02:17:39,239
gonna be one of these mysterious
people put us in the will

2323
02:17:40,139 --> 02:17:41,339
believe me it's actually

2324
02:17:41,340 --> 02:17:43,980
that's what KQED promotes
reading

2325
02:17:45,450 --> 02:17:46,980
really we should do that but
there

2326
02:17:46,980 --> 02:17:49,710
is a make up you're gonna you
know you're gonna get anyway

2327
02:17:49,740 --> 02:17:51,600
money and you hate your kids
put.

2328
02:17:53,549 --> 02:17:57,119
Your kids are grown up on Common
Core. You'll hate them anyway.

2329
02:17:57,119 --> 02:17:59,369
So might as well send it to us.

2330
02:18:00,150 --> 02:18:04,050
Exactly. needed to be in the
will of Canada to get this.

2331
02:18:05,490 --> 02:18:09,960
Hey go. Jamie Lundberg, Mark
workman

2332
02:18:10,619 --> 02:18:15,119
carcinog. Trucks Nelson Francis
James McClure, Adam Smith, and

2333
02:18:15,119 --> 02:18:18,629
Stu code stepped forward all of
you are about to become notes of

2334
02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:21,239
the no agenda round table and
you've got some pretty kinky

2335
02:18:21,239 --> 02:18:24,359
names. We appreciate that. So
congratulations Sir James of

2336
02:18:24,359 --> 02:18:31,499
Norway. Sir Mark workman. Sir
Schwartz. Sir Francis James

2337
02:18:31,499 --> 02:18:37,619
mCore, sir Smitty and Stu coats
for you. We've got oh my god.

2338
02:18:38,429 --> 02:18:42,509
Librarians and Jager bombs, no
opium and warm orange juice,

2339
02:18:42,509 --> 02:18:44,999
long haired heavy metal guys and
Scotch if you go that way when

2340
02:18:44,999 --> 02:18:48,179
she's in beer, geishas and sock
a vodka, vanilla bong hits and

2341
02:18:48,179 --> 02:18:51,899
bourbon, sparkling cider and
escorts mutton and Mead. Or as

2342
02:18:52,229 --> 02:18:56,609
Carsten Schwartz suggested
pryzen thick creamy milkshake,

2343
02:18:57,389 --> 02:19:01,139
which sounds like this something
disgusting really. I thank you

2344
02:19:01,139 --> 02:19:04,289
all for contributing to the no
agenda show. This is really a

2345
02:19:04,289 --> 02:19:08,159
nice list. I'm glad that a lot
of people made it through today.

2346
02:19:08,219 --> 02:19:12,299
Go to no agenda nation.com/rings
To get your rings we're still

2347
02:19:12,299 --> 02:19:15,359
doing rings and almost a year
after we said we wouldn't which

2348
02:19:15,359 --> 02:19:19,409
is kind of cool. Which means we
basically just had a lot

2349
02:19:19,409 --> 02:19:24,659
leftover. They reordered really?
Yeah. Oh, well, yeah, that's a

2350
02:19:24,659 --> 02:19:28,889
big ticket. So we have to stay
on him. That's no joke. Well,

2351
02:19:28,919 --> 02:19:31,649
you know. No,

2352
02:19:32,219 --> 02:19:35,219
no, I mean, it's like I still
think pins are a better idea.

2353
02:19:35,219 --> 02:19:37,379
But everyone seems to like these
rings me

2354
02:19:37,380 --> 02:19:40,770
I didn't get I wasn't in the
memo when this was discussed.

2355
02:19:41,700 --> 02:19:45,360
But okay, but hey, you know what
everyone likes him are our

2356
02:19:45,360 --> 02:19:48,870
knights like them? That's for
sure. And that's all that

2357
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:49,380
counts.

2358
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:52,860
Like the guys who use the ring
and they actually use the wax

2359
02:19:52,860 --> 02:19:55,230
and when they send a letter in,
they've stamp it with the ring

2360
02:19:55,230 --> 02:19:56,220
or they seal it.

2361
02:19:56,279 --> 02:19:58,619
I like that. It's very cool
because it's awesome. It's

2362
02:19:58,619 --> 02:19:59,399
fantastic.

2363
02:20:01,170 --> 02:20:06,240
You should do that with all your
bills. Buy a bunch of that wax.

2364
02:20:06,420 --> 02:20:09,870
I'm actually I'm actually a guy
that died send everything I do

2365
02:20:09,870 --> 02:20:12,630
checks I don't do online
payments for almost anything if

2366
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:13,920
I liked it I prefer

2367
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:15,000
the mail to

2368
02:20:15,060 --> 02:20:16,530
Yeah. What is that about us?

2369
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:21,750
We don't trust the system. We've
been in the business too long to

2370
02:20:21,750 --> 02:20:28,020
trust the electronic anything.
That's true. So there's a couple

2371
02:20:28,020 --> 02:20:32,310
of new more stores go back to
China. There's a couple of

2372
02:20:32,310 --> 02:20:36,060
little items here. I wanted to
get out of the way. One is the

2373
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:39,210
update on the Arizona the
Chinese have changed their

2374
02:20:39,210 --> 02:20:42,870
Arizona we've toyed with him and
now apparently we've kind of

2375
02:20:42,870 --> 02:20:46,950
caved in Obama says hey, we'll
we'll We'll not do this. But

2376
02:20:46,980 --> 02:20:49,560
there's plenty that Arizona
reports it so we can keep up.

2377
02:20:50,910 --> 02:20:54,570
Meanwhile, according to reports
and the New York Times newspaper

2378
02:20:54,570 --> 02:20:57,960
US President Barack Obama is to
tell American commercial

2379
02:20:57,960 --> 02:21:01,470
airlines to comply with the
rules of China's air defence

2380
02:21:01,470 --> 02:21:05,280
identification zone and notify
flight plans to Chinese

2381
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:09,270
authorities. That decision has
apparently been taken following

2382
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:10,950
a government meeting.

2383
02:21:11,580 --> 02:21:16,290
Government meeting interesting
while the Chinese have this rail

2384
02:21:16,290 --> 02:21:20,070
news from China, the Chinese
have in the time it took for the

2385
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:23,700
California to decide and then go
to court and come to their high

2386
02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:25,770
speed rail it's never gonna
happen of course.

2387
02:21:25,800 --> 02:21:28,260
Oh, this interesting.
Interesting you bring this up

2388
02:21:28,260 --> 02:21:29,670
hold on. I got some phone. Let's

2389
02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:33,720
now move on to other news a high
speed railway route has opened

2390
02:21:33,720 --> 02:21:36,720
in North China forming the last
link in the high speed rail

2391
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:40,590
network from the country's north
to south. The line goes from

2392
02:21:40,590 --> 02:21:44,610
Port City Tenjin to coastal Qin
Hongtao in Hebei Province on its

2393
02:21:44,610 --> 02:21:48,360
first train set off on Sunday
morning from 10 Jin. The nearly

2394
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:52,590
300 kilometre long journey only
takes about an hour and 10

2395
02:21:52,590 --> 02:21:56,490
minutes half the time it takes
by regular trains. It connects

2396
02:21:56,490 --> 02:22:00,300
with Beijing to Harbin and
Harbin to Dalian routes to the

2397
02:22:00,300 --> 02:22:03,660
north and the Beijing to
Shanghai route to the south.

2398
02:22:03,690 --> 02:22:07,350
Is it like rail appreciation day
or something because I got a

2399
02:22:07,350 --> 02:22:10,110
high speed. We've it's like a
repeat

2400
02:22:10,140 --> 02:22:14,370
I think the PR people are back
at work A and B by the way. I

2401
02:22:14,370 --> 02:22:18,810
was looking at this report. I'll
bet you I've now I want to go to

2402
02:22:18,810 --> 02:22:23,070
China just to take this
particular train. It looks dead

2403
02:22:23,130 --> 02:22:23,730
empty.

2404
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:26,970
Listen to listen to this report.
This is a US report that says

2405
02:22:26,970 --> 02:22:29,760
the same thing but even hypes it
worse. We're shooting

2406
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:32,640
the scene this morning in New
York's Penn Station. Amtrak says

2407
02:22:32,640 --> 02:22:34,170
it's expecting in your record.

2408
02:22:34,200 --> 02:22:38,040
This is from the Thanksgiving
Day number of passengers

2409
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:41,160
for the Thanksgiving weekend.
Crowds are also lining up for

2410
02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:43,770
trains in Philadelphia but
across the country travellers

2411
02:22:43,770 --> 02:22:46,410
still don't have one option used
to run the world for nearly half

2412
02:22:46,410 --> 02:22:48,690
a century. High Speed Rail

2413
02:22:48,990 --> 02:22:52,500
long strike this is a package
piece I mean, they're going nuts

2414
02:22:52,500 --> 02:22:56,430
totally package saying no reason
for the story. There's no news.

2415
02:22:57,300 --> 02:23:00,120
Apparently they say oh, it's
gonna be busy. Well, yeah, it's

2416
02:23:00,120 --> 02:23:01,320
Thanksgiving weekend.

2417
02:23:01,440 --> 02:23:04,890
Yeah, hello, it's busy at the
airports is busy on the freeways

2418
02:23:04,890 --> 02:23:05,850
straight into

2419
02:23:05,850 --> 02:23:07,260
a pre produced pathway

2420
02:23:07,260 --> 02:23:10,710
shows us why one states battle
could set the pace for the rest

2421
02:23:10,710 --> 02:23:11,280
of the nation.

2422
02:23:12,450 --> 02:23:16,110
In China this bullet train zips
between the cities of Beijing

2423
02:23:16,110 --> 02:23:20,880
and Gen Gao at over 220 miles
per hour. So convenient. One

2424
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:24,480
local air service went out of
business seven weeks after the

2425
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:28,290
first train left the station.
Andy coons heads an advocacy

2426
02:23:28,290 --> 02:23:31,590
group called the US high speed
rail Association it is

2427
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:36,420
almost 10,000 miles of brand new
state of the art high speed

2428
02:23:36,420 --> 02:23:41,040
rail. Brand new all fast all I
mean this the best in the world.

2429
02:23:41,070 --> 02:23:50,520
10,000 Miles 10,000 Miles. I got
a question that 10,000 miles of

2430
02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:53,700
brand new rail, who would they
build that like it overnight.

2431
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:58,410
Please, this is the Isela
Express which runs between

2432
02:23:58,410 --> 02:24:02,760
Boston and Washington DC with
stops in between. It's as close

2433
02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:05,070
as the US gets to a high speed
line.

2434
02:24:05,580 --> 02:24:10,110
The top speed is 150 miles an
hour. But the average speed is

2435
02:24:10,110 --> 02:24:12,570
not even half backwards. 70
miles an hour.

2436
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:16,500
But California hopes to connect
San Francisco and Los Angeles

2437
02:24:16,650 --> 02:24:21,510
with America's first true high
speed rail 520 miles between

2438
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:23,880
them. Travel time, three hours

2439
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:28,170
all about trains good planes bad

2440
02:24:29,550 --> 02:24:32,460
and of course Boeing went and
said just throw a train off the

2441
02:24:32,460 --> 02:24:34,290
tracks. These guys are getting
way too much press

2442
02:24:38,460 --> 02:24:44,790
I can get what what are you
playing?

2443
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:46,590
I'm not playing anything. What
are you hearing?

2444
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:50,790
Oh, I bet she has my you got an
ad

2445
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:52,140
running. You got a Skype ad.

2446
02:24:52,920 --> 02:25:00,660
I have something running. I went
to the US hr ushsr.com Oh, and

2447
02:25:00,660 --> 02:25:04,020
they got to play some bull crap
in the background. Oh yeah,

2448
02:25:04,020 --> 02:25:07,650
there it is. They're showing the
high speed rail of China and how

2449
02:25:07,650 --> 02:25:10,080
we should have this in
California. Right which by the

2450
02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:12,600
way, they're going to stop.
Yeah, this thing is never going

2451
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:14,610
to I mean, all it is right now
what they're gonna do is they're

2452
02:25:14,610 --> 02:25:18,600
gonna build the Bakersfield
Fresno you know, high speed

2453
02:25:18,600 --> 02:25:22,920
lines, so they can run, you
know, grain to up the gut, and

2454
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:27,810
they're never gonna hook San
Francisco to LA as a scam. But

2455
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:31,950
okay, fine. And by the way,
three hours, I gotta get at

2456
02:25:31,950 --> 02:25:35,490
first I got to find a place to
park, which is a pain in the

2457
02:25:35,490 --> 02:25:37,980
ass. And I have to wait to get
on the train, obviously. So

2458
02:25:37,980 --> 02:25:41,040
that's about 45 minutes, this is
gonna be scanners, you're gonna

2459
02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:43,320
have to walk through the thing
and you have to wait for the

2460
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:45,330
train. So it's gonna be just
like going to the airport. So

2461
02:25:45,330 --> 02:25:47,400
the time difference there is not
going to change.

2462
02:25:47,880 --> 02:25:50,730
Hold on, hold on, hold on a
second. John, I'm not going to

2463
02:25:50,730 --> 02:25:54,090
let you only talk down about
high speed rail and only talk

2464
02:25:54,090 --> 02:25:56,520
about the disadvantages. I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna let you do

2465
02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:59,790
that. There's advantages to high
speed rail.

2466
02:25:59,880 --> 02:26:04,110
Imagine boarding a train in the
centre of a city. No racing to

2467
02:26:04,110 --> 02:26:07,710
an airport. And across the
terminal. No delays. No sitting

2468
02:26:07,710 --> 02:26:11,130
on the tarmac. No lost luggage.
No taking off your shoes.

2469
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:18,930
So I don't see the difference.
I'm going to have to get to I

2470
02:26:18,930 --> 02:26:22,530
get to rush to the train station
because there's not one across

2471
02:26:22,530 --> 02:26:25,260
the street from my house, I can
assure you. Yeah. So I have to

2472
02:26:25,260 --> 02:26:27,840
rush to the train station. I
have to rush to the airport. I

2473
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:31,440
have to park my car somewhere
and it's not cheap. I have to

2474
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:33,780
park my car at the airport. Same
thing. Here's

2475
02:26:33,780 --> 02:26:39,510
the great thing. Why do you want
to get to San Francisco faster

2476
02:26:40,140 --> 02:26:41,580
to that hellhole?

2477
02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:45,360
Well, there's that seriously,
they always say, Here's the

2478
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:46,170
other thing. Well, I

2479
02:26:46,170 --> 02:26:47,760
mean, who cares San Francisco,
I'll

2480
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:52,830
let it go. Well, I want to go to
LA. I can go to casually go to

2481
02:26:53,070 --> 02:26:57,060
the Oakland airport, which is a
very pleasant airport. I can get

2482
02:26:57,060 --> 02:27:00,270
on a Southwest flight and I can
land in Burbank or I don't have

2483
02:27:00,270 --> 02:27:04,530
to be in some the hellish lax I
have choices. I can go to

2484
02:27:04,530 --> 02:27:08,430
Burbank and go to Ontario, I can
go to LAX I can go to there's

2485
02:27:08,430 --> 02:27:11,190
even flights from Virgin flights
into the Long Beach airport, I

2486
02:27:11,190 --> 02:27:14,100
have a bunch of choices. I
otherwise have to go to San

2487
02:27:14,100 --> 02:27:18,420
Francisco and find a parking to
get on the San Francisco high

2488
02:27:18,420 --> 02:27:23,790
speed rail to La go through the
gut Fresno and Bakersfield would

2489
02:27:23,790 --> 02:27:24,510
have beautiful

2490
02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:29,910
Do you that they do have a great
cart go kart track in

2491
02:27:29,910 --> 02:27:30,480
Bakersfield.

2492
02:27:30,540 --> 02:27:34,710
And so I go, boom, it takes me
three hours on the train. It

2493
02:27:34,710 --> 02:27:38,100
takes me one hour and 10 minutes
on the plane. I'm not and it's

2494
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:40,530
just gonna be on sale because
they're always having fare wars,

2495
02:27:40,530 --> 02:27:43,560
there's no fare. Now let me ask
you, by the way that didn't cost

2496
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:46,470
me fit. If you take a look at
Amtrak prices, they never

2497
02:27:46,470 --> 02:27:47,520
discount anything.

2498
02:27:48,210 --> 02:27:52,620
Now let me ask you a question
just so we can wrap this up? Why

2499
02:27:52,650 --> 02:27:55,170
are they doing it? If it makes
no sense?

2500
02:27:56,130 --> 02:27:59,160
Well, if for people who are new
to the show, we've long since

2501
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:02,700
determined this is to benefit
Warren Buffett, Burlington,

2502
02:28:02,700 --> 02:28:07,200
Northern Santa Fe and all these
other carriers of freight. They

2503
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:12,420
need new rail beds for their
freight, and they won't spend

2504
02:28:12,420 --> 02:28:15,210
the money. They're cheap.
There's if the government and

2505
02:28:15,210 --> 02:28:19,050
the stupid public will pick up
the tab for new rail beds for

2506
02:28:19,050 --> 02:28:22,470
these high speed trains. The
freight guys will end up with

2507
02:28:22,470 --> 02:28:25,830
the high speed rails because the
high speed train passenger

2508
02:28:25,830 --> 02:28:29,250
service will never make money
and they'll they'll end up

2509
02:28:29,250 --> 02:28:31,110
putting the freight trains on
these tracks

2510
02:28:31,140 --> 02:28:34,410
and there's tonnes of money to
be made. And in the in the

2511
02:28:34,410 --> 02:28:38,160
process of putting this down
tonnes of money. It's just

2512
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:41,850
a part of a greater corruption
that you know we bitch about.

2513
02:28:41,910 --> 02:28:43,230
It's about as far as we get

2514
02:28:43,890 --> 02:28:46,320
to three red 33 Clip Blitz,

2515
02:28:46,590 --> 02:28:49,530
blitz All right quick clip
Blitz. I'm got some Euro land

2516
02:28:49,530 --> 02:28:53,400
news. We start in Greece where
we have to continue to discredit

2517
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:58,080
the true opposition, I believe,
which is the Golden Dawn party,

2518
02:28:58,410 --> 02:29:02,640
which even as building this euro
vision, your own news report as

2519
02:29:02,700 --> 02:29:07,110
far right. But when you listen
to what's actually going on,

2520
02:29:07,140 --> 02:29:10,980
they've just basically locked up
the opposition under suspicion

2521
02:29:11,010 --> 02:29:13,440
of some things with no evidence.

2522
02:29:14,340 --> 02:29:18,150
Around 1000 supporters of the
far right Golden Dawn party

2523
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:21,330
gathered outside the parliament
in the Greek capital of Athens.

2524
02:29:23,430 --> 02:29:26,100
The smaller than expected crowd
were protesting against the

2525
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:27,390
pretrial detention in

2526
02:29:27,870 --> 02:29:32,340
the smaller than expected crowd.
The that's not propaganda this

2527
02:29:32,340 --> 02:29:32,640
Yeah,

2528
02:29:33,210 --> 02:29:38,100
Nikos Mahalo, Yak was 13 of the
parties. 18 MPs are in detention

2529
02:29:38,130 --> 02:29:41,520
face charges, or have had their
parliamentary immunity stripped

2530
02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:44,310
of them as the government cracks
down on the group they suspect

2531
02:29:44,310 --> 02:29:48,570
of involvement in paramilitary
style attacks. A counter

2532
02:29:48,570 --> 02:29:51,540
demonstration of leftist
activists passed off peacefully

2533
02:29:51,540 --> 02:29:54,690
as riot police prevented the two
rival groups of protesters from

2534
02:29:54,690 --> 02:29:58,890
clashing. Golden Dawn is
struggling for survival after

2535
02:29:58,890 --> 02:30:02,100
losing a third of its IP thought
after Anti Fascist rapper Pavlos

2536
02:30:02,100 --> 02:30:05,460
faces was allegedly killed by a
man who pledged allegiance to

2537
02:30:05,460 --> 02:30:06,810
the far right which by

2538
02:30:06,810 --> 02:30:10,380
the way, as far as I can tell is
not true. They are number two or

2539
02:30:10,380 --> 02:30:13,800
number one in the polls
regardless of whatever statistic

2540
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:19,380
EURO NEWS just threw out there.
Very very disturbing. The Greece

2541
02:30:19,380 --> 02:30:22,740
is it's kind of dropped off the
radar after what now fight How

2542
02:30:22,740 --> 02:30:25,890
long is it going on John four
years of this insanity three

2543
02:30:25,890 --> 02:30:26,880
years, four years. It's

2544
02:30:26,880 --> 02:30:27,780
amazing. The

2545
02:30:27,810 --> 02:30:32,910
the the unemployment numbers
just came out. Almost 60%

2546
02:30:33,570 --> 02:30:39,570
unemployment, youth unemployment
60% More than and Europe was

2547
02:30:39,570 --> 02:30:46,620
touting all these 1.01% drop or
something a point 1% Drop in

2548
02:30:46,890 --> 02:30:50,550
overall unemployment yet youth
unemployment skyrockets even

2549
02:30:50,550 --> 02:30:57,030
more. It's very, very sad. And
in the Ukraine, which you won't

2550
02:30:57,030 --> 02:31:01,050
hear a lot about the Ukraine.
This is very interesting. The

2551
02:31:01,050 --> 02:31:04,560
Ukrainian government apparently
does not want to join the

2552
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:05,670
European Union.

2553
02:31:05,880 --> 02:31:09,120
Well, this is debatable. You
might as well play Ukraine play

2554
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:11,700
first clip. Interesting.

2555
02:31:12,810 --> 02:31:16,230
Okay, well, the news, sorry. and
European leaders have just

2556
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:19,740
wrapped up a summit in the
Lithuanian capital Vilnius that

2557
02:31:19,740 --> 02:31:23,550
was dominated by the cranes
decision to walk away from the

2558
02:31:23,550 --> 02:31:27,510
doom and false fantastical of a
crag in Vilnius explains why the

2559
02:31:27,510 --> 02:31:30,450
Ukrainian leader has yet to sign
the agreement.

2560
02:31:31,410 --> 02:31:35,220
At the moment is communication
strategy is to say that he wants

2561
02:31:35,220 --> 02:31:39,210
to sign this agreement in the
not too distant future. But it's

2562
02:31:39,210 --> 02:31:41,940
not really clear whether or not
that's what his real intentions

2563
02:31:41,940 --> 02:31:45,090
are. Because one can ask, well,
if you really wanted to sign it,

2564
02:31:45,090 --> 02:31:48,120
why wouldn't he sign it? Now?
The Russian presser is not going

2565
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:51,150
to let up anytime soon. The
Russians have been perfectly

2566
02:31:51,150 --> 02:31:53,370
clear about that. So it's not
all that easy to believe the

2567
02:31:53,370 --> 02:31:56,550
Victor Yanukovych really wants
to sign this agreement, or at

2568
02:31:56,550 --> 02:32:00,510
least, if he does ever sign it,
it will only be if he gets

2569
02:32:00,510 --> 02:32:03,120
something from the European
Union that he hasn't so far got.

2570
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:05,640
And that's what we're hearing
from European diplomats in any

2571
02:32:05,640 --> 02:32:09,030
cases, the European Union is
absolutely not prepared to give

2572
02:32:09,030 --> 02:32:12,900
Ukraine has been asking for very
large amounts of financial

2573
02:32:12,900 --> 02:32:15,990
assistance from the European
Union. And actually, the adviser

2574
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:20,040
to Frosmo lon to was here said
that that would going down that

2575
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:23,070
road and starting to sort of
deal with Ukraine in terms of

2576
02:32:23,070 --> 02:32:25,680
figures of potential financial
assistance would be moving away

2577
02:32:25,680 --> 02:32:29,070
from the whole principle of the
Eastern Partnership, which is to

2578
02:32:29,220 --> 02:32:32,400
encourage good governance and
democracy and not to start doing

2579
02:32:32,400 --> 02:32:34,800
sort of geopolitical bargaining
of who's going to be the highest

2580
02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:38,400
bidder between Europe and Russia
in order to keep Ukraine within

2581
02:32:38,400 --> 02:32:40,830
its sphere of influence. I think
the greatest hope for Ukraine to

2582
02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:43,650
move towards Europe is the will
have its people who are still

2583
02:32:43,650 --> 02:32:46,350
demonstrating on the streets of
Kyiv and live this evening.

2584
02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:50,130
Yeah, so I kind of caught the
same thing, but I'll just play

2585
02:32:50,130 --> 02:32:53,190
the report quickly of the Euro
news report.

2586
02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:58,740
Defying a ban on city centre
protests 10s of 1000s of

2587
02:32:58,740 --> 02:33:02,370
Ukrainians are rallying and Kyiv
to denounce the decision to

2588
02:33:02,370 --> 02:33:06,900
reject an EU deal. Undeterred by
the court order and beatings

2589
02:33:06,900 --> 02:33:10,260
meted out to demonstrators on
Saturday, they streamed back

2590
02:33:10,260 --> 02:33:13,650
towards Independence Square
boxing champion turned

2591
02:33:13,650 --> 02:33:17,730
opposition leader Vitaly
Klitschko spoke for many of the

2592
02:33:17,730 --> 02:33:20,850
authorities cannot and do not
want to hear that people. The

2593
02:33:20,850 --> 02:33:23,790
authorities that use the police
to beat people and not to

2594
02:33:23,790 --> 02:33:27,270
protect them should step down
the government, the parliament

2595
02:33:27,300 --> 02:33:31,830
and the president. Ukraine's
interior minister has warned

2596
02:33:31,830 --> 02:33:34,560
that police will respond if
there's what he called mass

2597
02:33:34,560 --> 02:33:38,100
disturbances, but as
demonstrators reappropriated the

2598
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:42,180
square officers disappeared. In
a bid to defuse tensions

2599
02:33:42,180 --> 02:33:45,150
President Jana COVID She
rejected the deal in favour of

2600
02:33:45,150 --> 02:33:48,720
closer ties with Russia said he
do all he could to speed up

2601
02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:50,940
Ukraine's moves towards the EU.

2602
02:33:50,970 --> 02:33:56,340
Okay, so that report is in its
entirety, all farce at the

2603
02:33:56,340 --> 02:34:02,190
boxing guy. All of that is just
all games for the masses. This

2604
02:34:02,190 --> 02:34:06,300
is clearly geopolitical. And
there and your report, the van

2605
02:34:06,300 --> 02:34:09,870
cancer report is much closer to
the truth. And this is about the

2606
02:34:09,870 --> 02:34:15,270
supply routes that go through
the Ukraine for Russian gas.

2607
02:34:15,750 --> 02:34:18,780
Yeah, the van cat guys, you have
a little one of those little

2608
02:34:18,990 --> 02:34:21,960
talks about it. No, really. They
all conclude this. Yeah,

2609
02:34:21,990 --> 02:34:28,470
I mean, that's so either. They
can play if the European Union

2610
02:34:28,470 --> 02:34:34,890
wants a hedge for Russian gas,
and they would want to it

2611
02:34:34,890 --> 02:34:40,050
behoves them to bring the
Ukraine in the Ukraine is

2612
02:34:40,050 --> 02:34:45,600
playing fair, you know, as a
country as the leadership quote

2613
02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:48,240
unquote, of the country, which
has nothing to do with what's

2614
02:34:48,240 --> 02:34:49,110
good for the people.

2615
02:34:49,410 --> 02:34:53,010
Well, the guy came out and he
said he says that the Russians

2616
02:34:53,190 --> 02:34:56,070
did this. You had to read
between the lines when the head

2617
02:34:56,070 --> 02:34:59,880
of the Ukraine came out, and
kind of hinted that the Russians

2618
02:34:59,880 --> 02:35:03,810
were Gotta do a deal for energy
because there's your all the

2619
02:35:03,810 --> 02:35:06,690
pipelines go through there a lot
of them Yeah. And then

2620
02:35:06,720 --> 02:35:09,660
Ukrainians are essentially going
to get a steal they're gonna get

2621
02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:10,950
like, you know, cheap.

2622
02:35:11,580 --> 02:35:15,870
Yeah And Russia has always been
screwing with them. Yeah, they

2623
02:35:15,870 --> 02:35:17,970
turn it off they charge more

2624
02:35:18,330 --> 02:35:21,600
if they you know say we okay
we're not going to go to the EU

2625
02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:25,140
because the EU if they went with
the EU, which by the way I think

2626
02:35:25,140 --> 02:35:29,610
would be a sketchy situation
because the Ukrainian operation

2627
02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:33,390
in its entirety is half Russians
half Ukrainians, and it's

2628
02:35:33,390 --> 02:35:36,030
incredibly corrupt it's with
they would be introducing a

2629
02:35:36,030 --> 02:35:40,320
really bad kind of a country
into not the Ukrainians you can

2630
02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:44,460
write write me into the mix of
the of the EU I don't think

2631
02:35:44,460 --> 02:35:46,770
you're really doing any good and
I then and what they would try

2632
02:35:46,770 --> 02:35:49,410
to gouge the EU I mean, they
already already showing us

2633
02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:52,680
of course, but you know, you
don't want to play it's just

2634
02:35:52,710 --> 02:35:54,630
it's so fascinating.

2635
02:35:55,860 --> 02:35:57,990
We'll play my second Ukraine
clip and see what they say

2636
02:35:57,990 --> 02:35:58,350
they're

2637
02:35:58,770 --> 02:35:59,490
great and Hola.

2638
02:36:01,110 --> 02:36:03,000
I have a question about this. To
me

2639
02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:07,800
on that score. Let me get you to
react in to some comments, the

2640
02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:12,030
polls and sweets particularly
miffed by KIBS kyiv's About face

2641
02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:15,390
the Swedish Foreign Minister
Carl Bildt for bluntly wag the

2642
02:36:15,390 --> 02:36:18,960
finger at Putin, but also at
Ukraine's President earlier in

2643
02:36:18,960 --> 02:36:23,130
the week. This is what he
tweeted early this Friday from

2644
02:36:23,130 --> 02:36:27,360
the Vilnius summit that's been
taking place between the EU and

2645
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:30,690
Eastern Europe. Yeah, he's
saying President Yanukovych must

2646
02:36:30,690 --> 02:36:35,070
show what we what he wants
rumours that he's promised to

2647
02:36:35,070 --> 02:36:37,740
leave the European energy
community would kill an

2648
02:36:37,740 --> 02:36:42,690
Association Agreement. Build
saying that this is Yanukovych

2649
02:36:42,720 --> 02:36:45,300
playing both sides against the
middle a little too much.

2650
02:36:46,290 --> 02:36:50,100
Of course, I mean, everybody
playing everybody against

2651
02:36:50,190 --> 02:36:53,640
everybody, but it seems to me
obviously, he's in a very

2652
02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:58,800
difficult situation. He's facing
an election campaign. For one

2653
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:02,940
thing, he needs the funds for
that election campaign. And he

2654
02:37:02,940 --> 02:37:06,900
obviously has, as Anne was
saying, a huge base within

2655
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:11,040
Ukraine. That is not in a that
favourable.

2656
02:37:11,340 --> 02:37:12,780
Yeah. Here's some money.

2657
02:37:13,350 --> 02:37:18,150
And who so why are the Swedes in
particular upset about this and

2658
02:37:18,150 --> 02:37:20,910
it bitching about the energy
situation? This, I guess,

2659
02:37:20,910 --> 02:37:23,130
somehow, they're gonna take it
in the shorts, and I'm not sure

2660
02:37:23,130 --> 02:37:26,010
how, because we look at the
maps, it's not obvious. But

2661
02:37:26,010 --> 02:37:28,950
somehow Sweden believes that
they're going to be screwed over

2662
02:37:29,490 --> 02:37:35,220
by the Russians somehow, and is
Ukrainian guys not helping? Hmm.

2663
02:37:36,030 --> 02:37:36,960
I this was

2664
02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:38,700
just I don't know.

2665
02:37:39,270 --> 02:37:41,880
I don't know either. I mean,
I've been where it is clipped by

2666
02:37:41,880 --> 02:37:44,700
half because I can't figure out
what what this fuss is, we're

2667
02:37:44,700 --> 02:37:48,330
gonna have to dig into it.
Meanwhile, we're going after

2668
02:37:48,810 --> 02:37:52,740
Russia in every way we can with
with anti Putin stuff, of

2669
02:37:52,740 --> 02:37:58,590
course. And so I came up with a
Soshi Olympics hit piece that

2670
02:37:58,590 --> 02:38:02,910
they ran on, on one of the one,

2671
02:38:03,600 --> 02:38:06,180
let's just let's just back it up
a second. For the new people we

2672
02:38:06,180 --> 02:38:10,470
have dissected that the so
called anti gay laws in Russia,

2673
02:38:10,800 --> 02:38:15,570
are nothing more than a way to
soak the American entertainment

2674
02:38:15,570 --> 02:38:19,440
industry, for 10s of 1000s of
dollars for each movie that

2675
02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:23,940
comes out or tries to be
released. In the in, in, in

2676
02:38:23,940 --> 02:38:29,730
Russia, for the corporate finds
that are about the propaganda of

2677
02:38:29,940 --> 02:38:33,030
alternative lifestyles to
children. It's not exactly the

2678
02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:36,120
same as you can't be gay, which
is the way this is being played

2679
02:38:36,120 --> 02:38:39,720
and the way that my gay brothers
and sisters are actually

2680
02:38:39,720 --> 02:38:44,730
promoting this attack against
Putin without proper knowledge,

2681
02:38:44,880 --> 02:38:48,330
or at least a poorly informed
about what's really going on.

2682
02:38:48,690 --> 02:38:51,360
So they had this I'm having to
cut this to two since we're

2683
02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:54,450
running out of time. Although we
don't really run out of time on

2684
02:38:54,450 --> 02:38:56,430
this show, we could have all
over. So let's, let's start,

2685
02:38:56,430 --> 02:38:59,430
we've got something better to
do. Now. Let's do all the least

2686
02:38:59,430 --> 02:39:02,160
three of them. Let's try let's
start with that this was on Real

2687
02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:06,060
Sports with Brian Gumbel, who's
the lead does he produces this

2688
02:39:06,060 --> 02:39:09,510
thing, it's on HBO. And they do
a lot of political stuff, even

2689
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:13,200
though it's all around centres
around sports. So they go after

2690
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:16,200
what they hit piece. And this is
the socio Olympics hit piece.

2691
02:39:16,620 --> 02:39:19,290
That that kind of introduces
some of the elements and I'll

2692
02:39:19,290 --> 02:39:21,630
explain what they're talking
about here. We

2693
02:39:21,630 --> 02:39:24,870
asked Dmitry Chernyshenko, the
President's right hand on the

2694
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:28,260
Sochi Games, what he thought
about so much being spent on

2695
02:39:28,260 --> 02:39:31,770
construction, when there were
1000s of people living like Leo,

2696
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:37,740
in poverty, in Sochi alone. You
can understand when people say,

2697
02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:41,490
cheese, that's a lot of money
being spent, you know, in a

2698
02:39:41,490 --> 02:39:46,170
country that has so many people
who are deprived of modern

2699
02:39:46,170 --> 02:39:49,530
conveniences Do you understand
their concern? Yeah, I

2700
02:39:49,530 --> 02:39:49,980
understood

2701
02:39:49,980 --> 02:39:53,370
what you're saying. But I'm not
agree with that. I can tell you

2702
02:39:53,370 --> 02:39:57,000
that this will be the first
bright and notable victory for

2703
02:39:57,000 --> 02:39:59,760
the new, young Russian
democracy.

2704
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,120
but in a real democracy, there
would be stories on national

2705
02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:07,710
television about the bribes
about how Mr. Putin's friends

2706
02:40:07,980 --> 02:40:10,950
who are already fantastically
wealthy are getting even richer

2707
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:16,110
about how billions are being
spent on the 10s of millions of

2708
02:40:16,110 --> 02:40:16,680
Russians don't

2709
02:40:16,680 --> 02:40:19,200
have running water. You're
getting it already.

2710
02:40:19,289 --> 02:40:21,959
How much of a real young
democracy are we really talking

2711
02:40:21,959 --> 02:40:22,529
about here?

2712
02:40:22,770 --> 02:40:26,850
You have to understand that
Olympics is not about politics.

2713
02:40:30,720 --> 02:40:32,760
Hello, kettle, this is the pot
calling.

2714
02:40:33,750 --> 02:40:38,940
Yes, worse? Yeah. So let's go.
Let's go. And let's go to clip.

2715
02:40:39,359 --> 02:40:42,359
Did everyone understand the
irony of that? Did everyone

2716
02:40:42,359 --> 02:40:42,929
understand

2717
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:45,660
they will when the deadline is
over? Because that's I kind of

2718
02:40:45,660 --> 02:40:49,470
emphasise the irony on all these
clips. So let's go to the

2719
02:40:49,500 --> 02:40:52,680
Olympics, anti Putin guy comes
out. He's got a book and he's

2720
02:40:52,680 --> 02:40:54,090
discovered this corruption.

2721
02:40:54,210 --> 02:40:56,190
No, there's gambling going on

2722
02:40:56,190 --> 02:40:59,220
in there. emsoft, who
commissioned his own study into

2723
02:40:59,220 --> 02:41:02,940
the finances of the games, and
doesn't like what he found out?

2724
02:41:03,240 --> 02:41:03,690
This is a

2725
02:41:03,690 --> 02:41:06,630
festival of corruption and
mismanagement, a festival of

2726
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:09,120
corruption. Oh, my God, oh, my
God. This is a

2727
02:41:09,120 --> 02:41:12,510
festival of corruption and
mismanagement. We have 20

2728
02:41:12,510 --> 02:41:15,150
million poor people in this
country. We have a problem in

2729
02:41:15,150 --> 02:41:18,630
police, we have a problem in our
hospitals put in spend $50

2730
02:41:18,630 --> 02:41:20,550
billion. For what?

2731
02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:25,890
For what? To put on a show that
tells the world

2732
02:41:25,950 --> 02:41:28,500
show for himself a festival of

2733
02:41:28,500 --> 02:41:35,220
corruption. Passing good. That's
great. That's show title. Yeah,

2734
02:41:35,250 --> 02:41:37,440
it is festival. Corruption.

2735
02:41:37,920 --> 02:41:40,530
So the festival of corruption he
goes on. So they finish up

2736
02:41:40,530 --> 02:41:43,500
gumbos gets together with the
reporter at the end. And this is

2737
02:41:43,500 --> 02:41:45,930
the final thoughts, and then
they discuss this. And I don't

2738
02:41:45,930 --> 02:41:48,570
know, I want you to numbers that
he threw out so far, it's $50

2739
02:41:48,570 --> 02:41:51,600
billion, that are spending on
these Olympics now, which is

2740
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:54,810
similar to what they spend
everywhere, by the way, but it's

2741
02:41:54,810 --> 02:41:58,560
all because of Putin. And
there's 20 million poor people

2742
02:41:58,800 --> 02:42:01,530
that are that should get this
money, but they're not getting

2743
02:42:01,530 --> 02:42:03,990
it. So let's play the final
thoughts. And then I'll give you

2744
02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:04,920
my final thoughts

2745
02:42:04,920 --> 02:42:06,420
should any of the surprises.

2746
02:42:08,130 --> 02:42:14,010
Russia has several traditions.
One of them is sports. And that

2747
02:42:14,010 --> 02:42:17,880
sports tradition is they use it
to show their strength and their

2748
02:42:17,880 --> 02:42:22,290
legitimacy to the world. The
other is corruption. This is

2749
02:42:22,530 --> 02:42:26,400
this is like a perfect get
together have to great tradition

2750
02:42:26,400 --> 02:42:27,180
without debating

2751
02:42:27,180 --> 02:42:30,060
whether or not Putin is really a
president or really a dictator.

2752
02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:33,840
Was he able to do all this
unilaterally? Or did he have to

2753
02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:36,000
pass it by an assembly of any
kind?

2754
02:42:36,390 --> 02:42:44,100
I love your naivete. He's the
strong man. Not only are these

2755
02:42:44,130 --> 02:42:48,210
his Olympics, he went to
Guatemala City in 2007. And

2756
02:42:48,210 --> 02:42:52,890
personally lobbied for them. And
it was that personal effort that

2757
02:42:52,920 --> 02:42:57,960
won the Olympics. And and this
is important. Spending this kind

2758
02:42:57,960 --> 02:43:01,350
of money on the Olympics
couldn't be done anyplace else,

2759
02:43:01,350 --> 02:43:04,050
because there'd be stories about
it. Of course, there'd be

2760
02:43:04,110 --> 02:43:07,350
discussion about it. So the
answer to your question is,

2761
02:43:07,380 --> 02:43:10,650
these are his games, and he gets
what he wants. So you're free to

2762
02:43:10,650 --> 02:43:14,310
shoot anywhere you want it. They
didn't. They didn't stop us. So

2763
02:43:14,430 --> 02:43:17,700
they didn't stop us in all
fairness, wherever we want them

2764
02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:18,270
to go. We went.

2765
02:43:18,690 --> 02:43:19,830
All right, your thoughts. So

2766
02:43:19,830 --> 02:43:22,770
let's let me ask you a couple of
questions. Okay. So they they

2767
02:43:22,860 --> 02:43:26,670
been a piece that talked about
20 million people in dire

2768
02:43:26,670 --> 02:43:27,420
poverty

2769
02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:30,660
in Russia, America during his
illness. I'm sorry, I was gonna

2770
02:43:30,660 --> 02:43:31,860
say in America, but yeah,

2771
02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:36,600
no, no, what's the American
number? Higher? 46? Yeah,

2772
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:40,290
the American numbers 47, I think
is 47,000,070 keeps going

2773
02:43:40,290 --> 02:43:43,140
up an inch is up 40. So we've
got twice as many but that's

2774
02:43:43,140 --> 02:43:46,410
okay. So now Putin went to
Guatemala to sell this thing for

2775
02:43:46,410 --> 02:43:51,510
himself. Didn't Obama go to like
Copenhagen to sell the 2016

2776
02:43:51,510 --> 02:43:57,840
Olympics for Chicago? While he
failed, but that's beside the

2777
02:43:57,840 --> 02:44:02,400
point. But what was the budget
for those Olympics? Well, it was

2778
02:44:02,460 --> 02:44:05,340
according to Wikipedia, which
talks about this whole thing

2779
02:44:05,340 --> 02:44:10,710
they they had thrown on the
table $47 billion, which is just

2780
02:44:10,770 --> 02:44:12,960
which was going to be over
budget. So it's going to be over

2781
02:44:12,960 --> 02:44:16,290
the 50 Russians. So we're going
to spend at least as much as the

2782
02:44:16,290 --> 02:44:19,350
Russians are spending, we have
more people in poverty, but the

2783
02:44:19,350 --> 02:44:21,060
Russians are the bad guys.

2784
02:44:21,810 --> 02:44:25,680
Well, this is how it works. You
have to keep people focus their

2785
02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:28,860
eye on the ball as it's very
simple. Over here,

2786
02:44:28,890 --> 02:44:31,920
nothing to see. Look at that.

2787
02:44:33,180 --> 02:44:36,690
That's what it is. That's how it
works. Well played. I'd say

2788
02:44:37,020 --> 02:44:41,340
it was well played. But again,
you know, all right.

2789
02:44:41,550 --> 02:44:44,970
Nice. Can I read an email from
Iran? Have we ever received an

2790
02:44:44,970 --> 02:44:47,250
email from Iran? Do we haven't?
Do you know if we've ever

2791
02:44:47,340 --> 02:44:48,780
received an email from Iran?

2792
02:44:49,260 --> 02:44:52,290
You've asked the question now
three times in a row. I would

2793
02:44:52,290 --> 02:44:53,100
say no.

2794
02:44:53,460 --> 02:44:57,570
Hi, Adam. I'm 24 and I'm from
Iran. I listen to your show, and

2795
02:44:57,570 --> 02:45:01,530
I love it. Most of it at least
Why do people even do that?

2796
02:45:01,530 --> 02:45:05,010
That's like, you know, it's
lame. Hey, Rembrandt, I liked

2797
02:45:05,010 --> 02:45:07,950
everything. But that's self
portrait. So

2798
02:45:09,179 --> 02:45:10,979
why do you keep doing it again
and again,

2799
02:45:11,219 --> 02:45:14,429
especially I love your thing
about Muslim cultural aggression

2800
02:45:14,429 --> 02:45:17,789
in the Western world. It's very
true. And I keep mentioning to

2801
02:45:17,789 --> 02:45:20,579
everybody, I'm not a Muslim, but
I'm surrounded by Muslims and I

2802
02:45:20,579 --> 02:45:23,249
see them trying to make their
life Western and absorbing

2803
02:45:23,249 --> 02:45:26,519
Western culture. It's probably
because we're Persians and are

2804
02:45:26,519 --> 02:45:30,989
different from a RABs. And
Iranians are mostly she is, I

2805
02:45:30,989 --> 02:45:32,969
don't know what the reason is.
But anyway, I think this

2806
02:45:32,969 --> 02:45:35,219
cultural aggression is a real
thing. But there's a difference

2807
02:45:35,219 --> 02:45:38,159
between Muslims. Oh, one other
thing about Iran in my whole

2808
02:45:38,159 --> 02:45:41,369
life here I live in Tehran. I've
never seen a woman with in a

2809
02:45:41,369 --> 02:45:46,649
burqa, but I see them in Europe.
Ain't that weird? And one? Yes,

2810
02:45:46,649 --> 02:45:50,909
it is a couple of things. Allah
vite, a sect of Shia that is

2811
02:45:50,909 --> 02:45:53,069
very close to the main brands of
Shia with the only difference

2812
02:45:53,069 --> 02:45:57,269
that they are not into the hijab
stuff to really sorry, I can't

2813
02:45:57,269 --> 02:46:00,599
donate. And here's the really
the real crux of it, not because

2814
02:46:00,599 --> 02:46:03,299
I don't appreciate the work that
you're doing, but it's because

2815
02:46:03,299 --> 02:46:06,239
every international transaction
system has been blocked, so I

2816
02:46:06,239 --> 02:46:10,649
can't send you a donation. But
as soon as this Iran us deal

2817
02:46:10,649 --> 02:46:13,109
gets through my first
international money transaction

2818
02:46:13,109 --> 02:46:17,279
will be to you. Thank you for
reading. Awesome. Alaikum says

2819
02:46:17,279 --> 02:46:21,689
sight. Nice. Yeah. How cool is
that? That's a very cool letter.

2820
02:46:21,719 --> 02:46:24,599
Yeah, I thought that would be
kind of nice to just read as we

2821
02:46:24,599 --> 02:46:30,749
sign off. There it is. We got no
funds from Iran because of our

2822
02:46:30,749 --> 02:46:38,579
own sanctions. You could send us
Bitcoin. There's an idea. Do you

2823
02:46:38,579 --> 02:46:40,649
want the bully song as an end of
show clip?

2824
02:46:42,390 --> 02:46:43,410
The bully song?

2825
02:46:44,039 --> 02:46:46,049
Where a Bully Free Zone in this
school?

2826
02:46:46,590 --> 02:46:47,460
Yeah, play it.

2827
02:46:47,849 --> 02:46:48,719
It's pretty bad.

2828
02:46:50,250 --> 02:46:51,330
I'll give it a whirl.

2829
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:54,030
All right, it was bad. I don't
know why you're gonna play it

2830
02:46:54,030 --> 02:46:55,170
but okay. But because

2831
02:46:55,170 --> 02:46:57,540
it's like disturbingly bad. Now
you know what, I'm not gonna

2832
02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,560
play it. We'll keep it.

2833
02:46:59,610 --> 02:47:02,220
We'll we'll review it as a
committee.

2834
02:47:02,250 --> 02:47:05,340
We have to put it in the
meeting, which apparently we're

2835
02:47:05,340 --> 02:47:08,940
going to have. Alright,
everybody. Thank you. For those

2836
02:47:08,940 --> 02:47:11,190
of you who did tune in Thank
you. For those who did support

2837
02:47:11,190 --> 02:47:13,440
the show. It's always weird on
these vacation weekends, but we

2838
02:47:13,440 --> 02:47:16,680
do appreciate the help. Please
support us for our next

2839
02:47:16,680 --> 02:47:20,640
programme, which will be on
Thursday, and I am here in FEMA

2840
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:23,700
Region six Austin, Texas in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

2841
02:47:23,700 --> 02:47:24,150
curry,

2842
02:47:24,210 --> 02:47:27,840
and from FEMA Region nine, also
known as Northern Silicon

2843
02:47:27,840 --> 02:47:32,220
Valley, and Parts Unknown. I'm
John C. Dvorak. We'll be

2844
02:47:32,220 --> 02:47:37,230
back on Thursday right here on
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2845
02:47:49,980 --> 02:47:51,750
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2846
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