Hey, dude, did you see my cookie? I'm sure at one cookie.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, January 5 2013. Time for
your chemo nation media assassination episode 580. This
is no agenda, reading hr 3304. So you don't have to from FEMA
Region six here. The travel sites hide up Austin, Texas in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm here to see if
Windows 8.1 reboots in two hours. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.
Do you really have to necessarily antagonise everyone
with this window stuff of yours?
Much worse than antagonising? I was just,
it starts up so much email.
No, I've gotten one not one note.
You In fact, it was I've saved the thread between you and I
forget who it was now. Oh,
he's the guy. He's the Linux guy.
No, he No. He's not the Linux guy. He's the guy. No, he's
telling you that. No, no, it's the guy who's like, you could
have downloaded the regular version. I don't want to get
into it anymore. But you went back and forth with him like on
an email yelling thread? Yes.
I must have been just sleep. Remember this? Yes.
In fact, it was surprising because you rarely ever do that.
Ah, and then it ended up it he ended up by saying no, no, no,
no, that was about something Mel's? No, it wasn't and then he
ended up by saying that was about old screen. Skype. Yes. On
Windows eight.
Yeah, I don't care about that. That's not what I'm talking
about. I'm talking about the thread. Windows 8.1 is going to
reboot in two hours.
Okay, fine. You know, you know, the reason why you don't like
why Windows eight is not working for you. It's meant to be used
with a touchscreen. This is this is why you're not understanding
the big full screen stuff. This is for people who want to touch
their screen is it is it is
touched by screen. pretty pictures. Touch base screen.
Which guy is that? That's the guy that Windows eight user.
Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. Hold on. Let me get
this straight. Oh, and now ladies and gentlemen, John C.
Dvorak. With no windows eight user.
Oh, I wouldn't touch by screen. That's
right. That's our windows eight user brought to you by John C.
Dvorak. And let me start off by giving you props everyone
noticed this of course no sooner had us headed here's how it
went. I think I had a clip from Colorado and of course you know
the kids are all getting high school and this of course is the
problem with the kids in Colorado it's all about the the
war on weed and you immediately said oh, don't worry. This is
all part of the campaign next there'll be some kid will eat
some weed cookie and be all stoned and everything and you
nailed it.
Yeah, I know I did it in such a short luckily I did it a few
times today when remembers our predictions because usually
we're way out.
This one Yeah, in fact, yeah, that's right. Usually we're
months and months ahead of the bullcrap that starts tonight.
You just nailed it. You miss it by three years on a kid's age
though I have to say that was disappointing. Disappointing
just do I think
is a bit much they went over the top with that one.
I have I have the Associated Press report if you want to hear
that. I don't know if you have a report about it till I played
the AP report because it kind of funny. Yeah.
ER doctors at this hospital in Longmont, Colorado say a two
year old girl tested positive for THC marijuana's active
ingredient. The child's mom brought the toddler to the ER
saying the girl was lethargic. But the mom says her daughter
did not get the marijuana from her. She is denied using
marijuana at her house. We have searched the house to not find
any marijuana.
Let me ask you a question. If if marijuana is legal? How did the
police will you bring your kid to the emergency room you say? I
think my kid is lethargic. And within this very short timespan,
they've searched your house for a legal substance. Yeah, this is
not true.
No, the whole story is bogus. This is obviously
trying to, to pull it apart to so people can see that this is
and I think I know who planted the story too, by the way, but
Oh, you got me on that. But let's listen to a little more of
this bullcrap.
So apparently this didn't happen in the house. The way I read the
story the reporting is the toddler was outside two years
old and picked up a cookie ate half of it before her mom had
seen it.
Right there was a cookie, dope cookie. Incidentally, laying in
the yard, I guess dropped by some M stoner or perhaps, class
Hey, hey, dude, did you see my cookie? I'm sure one cookie.
Dude, Where's My cookie man? Did you take my cookie?
The mom tells police her daughter found a cookie outside
their apartment and ate it. We worry about how they're
breathing. paediatrics instructor Dr. George Wong
authored a study about children eating pot. He says that since
2009, the number of Colorado children hospitalised for
accidentally eating pot laced sweets has steadily increased
to what from what 1,000,001
child's not gonna know the difference between an edible
product without marijuana and edible product with marijuana.
And she says the spike is connected to the easing of
Colorado's drug law. Police.
I think there it is, we're gonna see an increase in this and it
highlights the hazards of having marijuana out and accessible to
children.
It's gonna be an intricate story. The toddlers
hospitalisation comes the same week retail sales of marijuana
in Colorado became legal. I think that the girl spent the
night at the hospital that she's expected to be okay. Padma Nanda
Rama Associated Press. Thank you. Padma
Rama Rama Associated Press. Yeah, and
what a great report from AP there huh?
Yeah. Oh yeah. And you know the numbers been going up and
skyrocket from whatever to something so from zipped to zap.
Smart Colorado is the organisation that planted this
they've been mentioned in every single article that I've been
able to give away. You have smart colorado.org grassroots
citizen run nonprofit 501 C four organisation of course, I cannot
find anything about them because it was formed in early March of
2013. So we won't find any reporting requirements from this
organisation until at least October of this year, but I'll
make a note I you know, I love looking at form 990s. But of
course a volunteer led organisation no financial stake
or motive, except they have appeared to hire veteran
lobbyists to Mike freely have Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck,
and Sandra Hagen, Solon from Capitol solutions and policy
communications firm Ste two. But now we just, you know, just a
little, little volunteer thing going on here. That's a
professional setup.
Yeah. And they planted that story to scare the public and of
course, the news media everywhere because it was picked
up in San Francisco and elsewhere. They all lapped it up
like the parents that they are. It's pathetic. Yeah.
Yeah, it is incredibly pathetic.
I mean, kids, but there's more. Kids are eating Drano as I
mentioned the newsletter, more like they're more likely to get
killed by some household crap. Soap, soap and they are from
anything?
Yeah. How about just water, fluoride in your water.
protecting us from marijuana about us our history, our
mission? What is your mission? Our mission is a nonpartisan
blabla. You already read this? It's just not a mission. It's a
statement of mission. What is the mission? What is the I think
the health and safety of Colorado kids first That's the
mission.
Smart Colorado nonpartisan statewide grassroots
organisation grassroots Yes, bass strutture focused on
putting the health and safety of corrugated for that. And if you
go to
drugs involved in this, there's a drug front. Thank you. Thank
you could be Big Pharma is behind this somehow,
if you go to meet our leadership team, no results found. They
have no leadership. They have no leadership team. Anyway. But
just it was uncanny to me how this this of course is in some
ways a call back to the Iraqi kids thrown out of the
incubators onto the floor. Yes. Somebody pointed that out. Yeah,
exactly. Which turned turned out to be the dough trap the
daughter of a crisis management PR firm and it was completely
made up. Yeah, and these things do happen. They've been you
know, things get made up for specific reasons. But this was
so transparent and it's after all these years that we now we
just know the script is like, Oh, this is so obvious what's
going to happen next.
Yeah, no, the script is apparently they can't come up
with anything new and why should they? The public laughs this
stuff up? Like there's no tomorrow it works. Yeah. But
givers is amazing. Hey, there's to jerk off doing a podcast that
a busted us 100 was listenership less than 10 million who cares,
right? Whatever. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, exactly.
My well real stories which we I keep passing on this one.
Federal law judge rules keep part of Utah bigamy laws
unconstitutional.
Oh meaning we can live it up.
You can have more bigamy. I think that's a plus.
Do we have a clip on this? Now? Just throw it. Oh, that's a
bummer. I wanted a clip.
I would like to have a clip but there's no clip because there's
no PR company behind it. There's no pro bigamy lobbying group
that you don't know that. Well, anyway. I'm a little mad, a
little mad. They pulled a fast one, and I didn't see it, and I
feel kind of stupid.
But they're always gonna pull fast ones. We're gonna miss a
lot of them. Yeah, well, just feels really obvious.
Kind of you recall maybe four weeks ago, the NDAA National
Defence Authorization Act of 2014. It's this isn't a
recurring theme every year. Bo came out it was going through
the House going through the Senate. And I'd had read through
pretty much 803 pages, I think of this thing. And I think I
said there was a you know, there was a little bit of offworld
space stuff in there. That was kind of semi interesting. And
I've been tracking it for a while. And but I didn't really
see anything like the sections 215 And you know, and 710 and
all of the detention stuff that we saw in the 2012 2013 National
Defence Authorization Act. So I let it slip a little bit. And on
the 26th when we were still in the midst of oh, I don't know,
what was the world talking about? Oh, yeah. The Duck
Dynasty guy. That's, that's really what all the news
was the key that we had me we have to bear down when that
happens. Yeah,
exactly. And I, we looked at it as a way to cover up target,
which all helped. Certainly, it certainly did not hurt. The fact
that they switched out the entire bill for a different one.
And that's what the President signed from his vacation address
in Hawaii. To always
remember the year before that, when they slipped the whole bill
in it. We accidentally caught it on C span.
Well, they certainly had the President signed it in the in
the in the dark of night on the 31st. That's what happened last
time. This time, it was the day after Christmas. But it was a
whole different bill. It was 3304.
The old bill, the bill, reading the presented bill. Yes.
And then a whole new bill was presented and voted on and I
knew nothing. There was nothing on C span nothing about it was
it was one of them. It was like last time where they slipped it
in and some of it was somebody's talking about brushfire
rush they state it's a whole different document this telling
you
to do whatever you want, if you're slipping it in. So I got
the
new document and holy crap. Really? Oh, yes, really. So it's
the National Defence Authorization Act for Fiscal
Year 2014. The only sections that are of important, although
there's a lot as always, and of course, I didn't have time to
get through everything. But I did get through the sections 932
and the 1070 ones, which I just like to touch on briefly,
because it is important. And trust me, no one's going to
report on this. So you might as well just get it from here.
Everything's marked up in the show notes, of course. So Cyber
Command is all of the cyber stuff that we were expecting
shows up in these new document it was not in the one I was
looking at is Richard Clarke named almost because there's a
lot of openings for stuff that can be provided for by the
private industry and even other countries as gifts, no less. And
I'll tell you about that. So the Secretary defence shall take
such actions as considered appropriate to provide the
United States Cyber Command operational military units with
infrastructure and equipment, enabling access to the Internet
and other types of networks to permit the United States Cyber
Command to conduct wartime missions, and execute offensive
military cyber operations. This is interesting to me, because
they're taking real warfare language where you blow people's
limbs off and bash their heads in and burn their cities down to
rubble. And using that in a computer network environment,
and it's just not the same thing. But they're making it
sound like it's exactly the same thing and, and allowing, I
guess, our cyber forces to execute offensive military cyber
operations, which means it's not necessarily done out of as a
defensive move. And I'm not so sure I'm okay with that. Because
they have no clue what they're doing. It's no one really knows
what the what the result of real cyber warfare could be. And I
think it's very dangerous. But anyway, it's all okay. Go ahead
and be offensive and do whatever you want according to the act
that, by the way, pretty much everybody signed off on. I think
there's two Democrats who didn't sign a sign off on this. And
seven Republicans, though, pretty much everybody's all in
on that, because they probably didn't read it. They're like,
Now whatever is fine.
The word probably is not. They didn't.
They didn't read it. There you go. Right. Now there will be
there will be a designated for purposes of defence for defence
policy, a principal cyber advisor. And this will be a new
Jevic
Kandra. Welcome back.
Oh, God. So we'll have to see who that who that is. But the
principal cyber advisor shall be responsible for the overall
supervision of cyber activities related to offensive missions,
defence of the United States, in defence of Department of Defence
networks, including oversight of policy and operational
considerations,
you Richard Clark,
it's going to be someone like that. Yeah.
You're gonna be him. He's the one who's been pushing for this
job. He's the one who created the job, I'm sure of it. He's
behind what you just read
it. But this is bad. You can't just have some guy coming in?
Who's going to be the principal cyber advisor and says, yeah,
yeah, I think you can go ahead and hack those guys. And if
that's Richard Clark, wow. So this guy will integrate the
cyber expert or gal will integrate the cyber expertise
and perspective of appropriate organisations. And this is
really a coming together of the defence department intelligence
community's not the CIA, they're not mentioned anywhere. It's all
about NSA and Department of Defence kind of they are
department, part of the department, of course,
interesting. He will also select team members designate the team
leader will work on the training of personnel. So that is
essentially your cyber advisor. Now, let me go down here a
little bit
ciphered? Advisor, yeah, it's it's cyber advisor. What else
can we do?
Outside the principal cyber adviser to Princeton,
I am the principal cyber advisor of America, of America.
Yeah, he will also provide an evaluation of the potential
roles of the reserve components in the concept of operation,
that concept of employment for cyber operation force is
required. So now we can have reserves being I mean, we're
moving towards full scale cyber war,
this is how we're the ones starting it. Nobody else even
talks
about it. So essentially, there'll be no more we're gonna
bring down our own grid. Who knows? Yeah, why not? Well,
that's part there's something in this act about that as two
incomes. Now, here's where it got a little scary to me in
consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security,
consideration of ways to ensure that the governors of several
states through the Council of governors now that's that
organisation that is HUD funded with $100 million. That brought
us Common Core as an example. So the insured the governors of the
Council of governors as appropriate, have an opportunity
to provide the secretary of defence and Secretary of
Homeland Security and independent valuation of state
cyber capabilities, and state cyber needs that cannot be
fulfilled through the private sector. So there will be a push
now to have your local law enforcement have some form of
cyber capabilities. And that's like giving a guy a root access
and saying, do whatever you do never ever do RM star, hey,
section 936, cyber outreach and threat awareness for small
business. These will be contracts will be awarded by the
Department of Defence to assist small business to one understand
the gravity and scope of cyber threats. So that's a marketing
thing. We could get in on that money. We need to do something
to develop a plan to protect intellectual property. And
three, develop a plan to protect the networks of small
businesses. This I feel is
this is this is so the one of the impetus behind this
obviously, is the movie industry. Yes, of course, that's
the intellectual Hollywood is have a has a piece of this.
Yeah. Yeah. And their networks, and apparently the government's
going to use taxpayer dollars to protect their networks. Which,
which I think I think you're right, this can only mean people
streaming or Hollywood stuff. It has no bearing on I don't think
the no agenda of doing business as no agenda is gonna get get
any offers from the government to help protect our network. I
don't think that's going to happen. No. All right, section
938 of the National Defence Authorization Act 2014
supervision of the acquisition of cloud computing capabilities.
Now, this is what Vivec did
start off. Yes, Vivek is behind this.
The Chairman of the Joint requirements Oversight Council
Will supervises the following the review development,
modification and approval of requirements for cloud computing
solutions for data analysis and storage by the armed forces and
defence agencies, including requirements for cross domain
enterprise wide discovery and correlation of data stored in
cloud computing databases. That's the integration of
defence and armed forces and intelligence into the same
systems. Which by itself, just having that in a cloud situation
as far as I'm concerned, and brisk integration of plans with
enterprise wide plans with the armed forces. Okay, we already
did that one. Integration with intelligence community efforts,
the Secretary shall coordinate with the Director of National
Intelligence to ensure that activities under this section
are integrated with the Intelligence Community
Information Technology Enterprise, which is i see i te
eyesight in order to achieve interoperability, information
sharing, and other efficiencies. Now under Section 940, control,
this is where this is where I got a little little Heebie
Jeebies control of the proliferation of cyber weapons.
And just bring that back to you. Control of the proliferation of
cyber weapons. So there's
an anti proliferation clause in here and cyber weapons. Would I
mean, you can interpret this any way you want, but it seems to me
would be viruses and Trojans, I can't think of anything else.
What else would it be?
Well, they're they're using nuclear terminology. That's the
problem I have. So yeah, I
have a problem with that, too. It's not good that we have a
proliferation. It's like there. Oh, there was 10. Yesterday.
Now, there's 20. There's no no, no. Yeah. So
I've Yes, you can't do copy paste or something. So here's
what it's about interagency process for establishment of
policy, the President will establish an interagency process
to provide for the establishment of an integrated policy to
control the proliferation of cyber weapons, which could be a
ping, I don't know and what is the cyber weapon
pings, things must be bad.
The command ping is not operative on your on your
system. Through unilateral uncooperative law enforcement
activities, financial means diplomatic engagement and such
other means as the President considers appropriate. So they
could if they if you're being accused of creating a cyber
weapon, which is very broad and interpretation, they can cut off
your all your money, I guess financial means and cooperative
law enforcement can come and get you.
Industry purchases as possible. No agenda shows a cyber weapon.
We aren't
we are definitely a psychological cyber weapon for
sure. industry participation, the president shall include to
the extent practical, practicable, private industry
participation in the process established under this
subsection. So there's your fascistic government who is
going to have private industry cooperate, to thwart you from
using or proliferating cyber weapons, which is not really
defined objectives to identify the intelligence, law
enforcement, financial sanctions tools that can and should be
used to suppress the trade in cyber tools and infrastructure
that are or can be used for criminal terrorist or military
activities while preserving the ability of governments and the
private sector to use such tools for legitimate purposes of self
defence. Okay, this is a key clause, because this is this is
where we all lose. This is like saying, well, torrents
BitTorrent can be used for distributing Linux. That's
exactly what this is, and it's not going to work. They will
take away all this is taking away our tools, tools.
Well, now this this is interesting, because if we take
it back to Hollywood, again, Hollywood had nothing but
agonising trouble over during the net and they learned a
lesson during the Napster period when part of the argument I
think it was done by boys. The lawyer was that if something
could be used for In other words, you have a product that
can be used to do illegal downloads. But if there if
there's a single legal use for it, then it must remain in place
and mute. In other words, you can't do anything you can't take
it out of the out of the picture because there's a legitimate use
and that's the case with with BitTorrent, and the torrent
distribution of shows like ours. Right? So they're after that
they're they yesterday with a targeting this particular thing,
and then they've slipped it in this bill. Hollywood literally
has slipped gotten involved with the National Defence
Authorization Act? There's no doubt about it. I'm with
you. This is this is also a call to same section to establish a
statement of principles to control the proliferation of
cyber weapons, including principles for controlling the
proliferation of cyber weapons that can lead to expanded
cooperation and engagement with international partners. It's
very
national why Yeah. Well, they just have that studio in China.
Oh, yes. Wow. Giant billion dollar studio.
Anyway, onward. Now add in subtitle G. PAGE 486.
Miscellaneous authorities and limitations. easily overlooked
by any journalist in the mainstream, because it's
miscellaneous authorities found it can't be much.
Yeah, that's the first place I'd look.
Section 1071 enhancement of capacity of the United States
government to analyse captured records. Now this is very
interesting. Oh,
wait a minute.
Yeah, I knew you'd like it. I know you'd like but now, you'll
recall the advice from the President's Blue Ribbon Panel,
which included all these lawyers, not really. The
recommendation regarding the end the NSA metadata programme,
which by the way, the secret FISA court has reauthorized. Oh
secret the secret Gulag court has reauthorized. The
recommendation was to to not have the NSA store this but have
a either the have a separate entity, a private sector entity.
store all of this for us. Well, this is what solidifies this and
takes it 10 steps further. So there's a new section here in
the United States Code for the conflict records Research
Centre. Conflict records Research Centre, the secretary
of defence may establish a centre to be known as the
conflict records Research Centre. And the purpose of the
centre shall be the following to establish a digital research
database, including transactions and to facilitate research and
analysis of records captured from countries, organisations
and individuals now, or once hostile to the United States
with rigid adherence to academic freedom and integrity. Did you
just burped
espionage?
Yeah, well, I have some of the definitions too. But first,
number two, consistent with the protection of national security
information, personally identifiable information, and
intelligence sources and methods to make a significant portion of
these records available to researchers as quickly and
responsibly as possible, while taking into account the
integrity of the academic process and risks to innocence
or third parties. Now, the way I read this, is they're talking
about building a huge database that everything goes into and
anybody who has the right access can jump in and research
records.
Yeah, actual records exactly what it is. Now, let's go over
all the billing and financial
walkway. Okay, now, here's where I
know they had them as a customer, Bill get on
support from other United States government departments or
agencies. Anyone may may help out with this database. And then
there's a whole thing here about acceptance of gifts and
donations. The Secretary of Defence may accept from any
source, any gift or donation for purposes of defraying the costs
or enhancing the operations of the centre. What
the sources spate of minutes, just break that down for a
second, let me give you the details and they'll break it
down. The sources specified in this paragraph are the
government of a state or political subdivision of a state
the government of a foreign country, a foundation or other
charitable organisation including a foundation or
charitable organisation that is organised or operates under the
laws of a foreign country or any source in the private sector of
the United States or a foreign country they may give gifts of
money of property of equipment, anything they want to help out.
funds transferred to are accepted by the Secretary
defence under the section of extortion scheme. funds
transferred to or accepted by the Secretary of Defence under
this section shall be credited to appropriations available to
the Department of Defence for the centre and shall be
available for the same purposes and shall be subject to the same
conditions and limitations. As applied now Definitions The term
cap record record. Remember, this is the captured records
Research Centre. The term captured record means a
document, audio file, video file, or other material captured
during combat operations from countries, organisations or
individuals now, or once hostile to the United States. The term
gift or donation means any gift or donation of funds material,
including research materials, real or personal property or
services, including lecture services, services and Faculty
Services. This is the definitive goulard database. And it's kind
of like you, if you contribute to the database, you can get a
tax credit. That's the way I'm seeing it. Hey, here's some
research materials, like put it in there, it's worth about 1000
bucks, you can get a tax credit, it's a gift.
I think there's that element, I think there's I think what this
is multi dimensional, whoever put this together, really has
something on the ball in terms of distorted, essentially, this
has got to be illegal in more ways than one. First, you
redefine everything you redefine, you know, what is
this? What is a war, cyber war. So you're in the cyber war, you
mean a cyber war with everybody. And so you can take all their
stuff, if you can get into their machines through the whatever
backdoors are available, or Windows eight, or anything that
you know, has access by the government. And according to the
prism slide, you know, everybody's wide open for that.
So we can take all this stuff. And so we do that, and
especially all these cloud guys who went to the cloud, you know,
that clouds stuff is done so over. And then the people that
you can't fully define as enemies, because you're gonna
get in trouble. If you say, well, France is you can't do it.
You can't say France or Great Britain or enemies. But you can
you can request them to donate,
could you? Could you donate your records, please can you give,
just give us all your stuff as a donation. And there's no tax
write off for them. But for people who within the country,
for example, there'll be some guys that maybe took the advice
of keeping everything in house and and the government wants
their stuff, to where you can have our stuff? Well, we can get
it, you know, we can get through one of these
letters, the other guys, the only the other guys will happily
donate
the other guys. Well, there's also the you know, we have these
national security letters we can lay on here we can find ways
there may be you know, I've said this before, and I'll say it
again, there may be national security letter. templates that
we don't know anything about. Yeah, like the one don't ask for
specific records. It could be like, we want all your financial
documents. Yeah. It could. We don't know that. That doesn't
exist, because the national security letter is secret, and
the courts can't look at it. And no one's done anything about
him. The fact that they have, they allow them in the first
place, music can be abused, and they're being abused. Because
there's 1000s and 1000s. And
the FBI can just write them they don't even need a jet.
Right? Some guy in his office I got one here. So he's writing
them. So so this could go on. So you can go to a company and say
we just just just give us just you here's a choice, we're gonna
give you one of these letters that you might want to look at
it just secretly. Or you can just give us all your stuff that
will give you a tax write off. Yes. Go Yeah, I don't want
anyone to give you all our stuff. No, no, no, no, you give
us all your stuff. Stuff.
Can you turn down your your your just over modulating a little on
nine screaming? Oh, no, it's okay. Then just back off Back
off, man.
Tell me that get an extra fist in there. Yeah,
they had Jamya fist in
there. So, yeah, no, this is bad. Well, it's it's the fact
that it's even getting through so easily. Which I think was
part of that little commentary by Ellsberg. You know, he says
you know, they respect the American public because they
have to lie to them. But then follow the American public just
just lab a lot of this stuff is just done behind closed doors is
snuck in our Congress is totally off the wall corrupt.
This is also a failure a failure of epic proportion of your news
media. This is a failure by the New York Times by the Washington
Post by The Guardian all the people who are you know, the the
heroes of morality and justice it's full of crap that they're
they're all all they can do is talk about should Snowden have a
amnesty, which is another thing that's being set up? Some for
some reason, but there was no and and when I say mainstream,
of course, there's good reporting. Of course, there's
Pete and I have a couple of links in the show notes. Of
course, people see this and write something about it,
although most of the writing as is the press release on
whitehouse.gov focuses your attention towards section 1034
and 1035 which is about Guantanamo Bay and the transfer
of prisoners. And of course, the mainstream journalists may
because, Oh, they're so underpaid, although I don't
think they're more underpaid than I am. And this the so weary
from all that they're doing that, oh, well I'll just report
on the Guantanamo Bay stuff, I have no time to look at the
rest. Whatever the reason, they're doing you a disservice,
it's a disservice. This is very important stuff our audience,
our producers understand this stuff. They understand what it
means to have a database and what it means to donate
something, and particularly if it's donating records and get a
tax write off, which is spelled out explicitly. And you just
don't just just make sure your nonprofit you're good to go. I
mean, this is, and this is fascism. This is fascism. They
should call this a national fascism Authorization Act. The
NFAA we need
a new word. There is no new word fast. Fascism has a bad
reputation.
Yeah, there's a reason for the bad reputation. It winds up with
people getting killed. It doesn't end well. But I guess we
can never learn can we? Oh, no, just carry on. Same old same
old. So I found this all very disturbing. And
I would think so especially from your we I'm glad you found it
because we could have gotten another year before we knew they
pull the switch a roo on us. This is bait and switch.
It is bait and switch it was again signed. Quietly the
President just kind of you know, stopped from getting the shaved
ice and signed it. It was passed by the majority of both houses.
And really only seven nays I think and nine nays seven
Republican two Democrats in total. Very, very sad.
Those were we should
I have it I have it to make guys list. That's maybe something
more for the for the the show notes. Let me see. I might have
it here. Let's see if I can get it quickly. I definitely have
the list. It's it's on one of the links. Habit, it said. I
don't have it here. I do have links to the original that I was
reading and how that one was just quickly, quickly swapped
out. There's there's of course no change in the indefinite
detention. Which people were kind of waiting for. There'll be
some conversation about that. But I think the the whole topic
of, of this of the Cyber Command, and the weapons of
cyber war and the proliferation act of cyber weaponry in the
cyber tools. I mean, my God, I can use any machine to wage
cyber war. What are you going to do? It's like maybe that maybe
that's the whole point. Maybe lock it all down? Give everyone
a fucking tablet and an app. Here's your computing experience
slave
to notelets and an app
and a virtual keyboard, enjoy. Oh, no, it was that's maybe
that's the plan? I don't know.
Well, they can't that's a plan that can't be implemented. But
there's something the fact that they had to sneak this through
as a bait and switch at the dead of night. During Christmas, of
course, is the giveaway as usual. When these things are all
done, because nobody's around, they're all on vacation. And
they still are, in fact, I would think in the show wasn't going
to be this exciting. Because everyone's gone. There's just
nothing on C span except TV. And it's funny.
It's funny, because I was talking with with Mickey and
Mickey, I'm like, you know, maybe next year, maybe that'll
be the first year we just take off the last two weeks of the
year. Nothing happens. All the PR agencies are close. It's, you
know, we need a rest sometimes just to clear out the brain. And
then I see this I'm like, scratch that conversation.
No, I think we're better off taking a break, like in March or
sometimes. Yeah, it looks like it's accidental. We
should just take a break during elections. Because we know how
all that works is that's uninteresting. We need the back
the backroom stuff the stuff that really happens in the dead
of night when everyone's partying. It was very
disturbing. Very sad. Just one more funny thing about this and
maybe some money to be made, though, don't you? Thanks, John.
There's
look I got an idea, a money making idea for you. And I
thought about this long and hard. Today, the Podcast Awards
are going to be announced. And Sergeant Fred actually, you
know, he's a sergeant Fred is out there in Vegas. And he says,
Can I can I represent the show for the awards and said to your
producer of course you by definition, you represent the
show. You've never met Sergeant Fred was a hoot. I've never met
Sergeant Fred. Imagine a Vietnam veteran decked out with with all
his vet stuff. Okay. And say in vivo crystal a. That's perfect.
That's perfect. has to do he'll get up in the middle of a room
and yell that
is fantastic. Yeah, I'm liking exactly the
kind of guy you want repping us out there now. But I said to
Sergeant Fred, it said, and he was a podcaster himself, by the
way he does. He does a fun podcast. I said, please have no
illusions, we will not win. We don't win awards. That's not how
we're not in that. We're not on on that level of media
distribution thinking we're in a totally different stratosphere.
So we're not going to win. It's also this our show is something
that only a select the choir understands it and you know,
other people just what
those guys are nuts now. Oh, the conspiracy show? Well, I would
by the way, let me just stop. Yeah. Here's an example. You go
through this bill, you read the bill, point by point and say
this is what it means. Hey, Adam, you're a conspiracy nut. I
heard that that tinfoil hat moment about the National
Defence Authorization Act.
Yeah, that's nuts. That's a conspiracy conspiracy.
You don't really think the government's trying to hurt you?
Do you? How could they keep it quiet, someone wouldn't talk.
They don't have to talk. It's written down.
So you will agree that when it comes to this form of media, we
are kind of the Simon and Garfunkel of podcasting. In all
honesty.
Who's Simon?
I was thinking Macklemore. And, and what's the other guy's name?
I couldn't come up with anything hip with a captain and Sunil of
podcasting was my first thought
or uninhibited.
And I was actually you inspired me with something we were
talking about. I think it was on the show about the email and
attachments and size of attachments. I think, here's an
idea. And this is an idea we will win awards, we will change
people, we will change the the we can change the world with the
following podcast. And we could do it on the side or we could do
it as a part of our own show. A podcast just about email.
This week in email.
I thought this week an email or maybe the email podcast was
another brilliant thought I had. Really, but when you think about
oh, let's listen.
Better, you better come up with some good the topics
you can sell servers, the perfect spam filters appropriate
use of subject lines, newsletters, how do you get so
unsubscribe, unsubscribe? Can you send them a new one even
though the unsubscribe see if you can get them in signatures?
PGP GPG TLS attachments. The email is I realised this that
I'm not really kidding about this email is actually the only
true decentralised protocol we have that everybody has access
to. And we're using it in for only 1% of its capability. And
because of this idea that spam has ruined email, which is it's
untrue because if you take the time, I've really gotten my
email under control from the server and from the client. And
there is so much that can be done interface, of course, is
completely stupid. It's a, you know, that the kids are growing
up now and still have to figure out what a little paperclip is
doing. You know, they don't understand this anymore. What
that that's an attachment. And why does an attachment why can't
it just be in a folder? Why is the interface look like a like
it looks you know, it can be so much better? This, this could be
a show that could go on forever. It is Mojo. It is full it is
beautiful.
Yeah, well, I have a better idea, which includes your show
about this go meta on. Okay. All right. Here's what we need. We
need a Kickstarter to develop a new email programme. Yes. For
the public at large. It covers all the bases of what why
everything you bitched about just now and more about what's
wrong with email. And what's wrong with Thunderbird. And
what's wrong with Outlook and what's wrong with squirrel mail
and what's wrong with Yahoo mail and what's wrong with Gmail can
be all created it something a better product can be created.
And in the process of creating that product, an email podcast
would be part of the company.
There you go. Good idea how much do we think we need?
I think well to develop to just get started on an on an email on
a really good email programme I think was some good coders. And
we need what we really need some good programme design or some
skies that can spec well of which would include us.
You know, let me let me stop you there I think yes. But I think
the Kickstarter comes out of the show because we have no idea but
we know that it's wrong and we know that I think the I was
gonna kick start a podcast and we don't need to kick They'll
kickstart software don't know. We don't need to kickstart the
podcast. We just do a little segment little jingle, someone
cuts it out and puts it in a feed bomb podcast done don't
have to do anything different.
Get other cases you asked about, I think it would take it
probably taken half a million dollars to do it. Right.
I think it can be done for much less. But I think my
initial thought was 200,000. Because you could do it on a
shoestring. If you think about dig was done on 1200 bucks. It's
you can find some guys a superstar wants to do it. Yeah.
You're thinking you're thinking, I guess part of the company that
helps your thinking
is old fashioned still. And I don't mean that as an insult.
But it's, you know, the thinking is the emails, just if you
really think about just the protocols of IMAP, and SMTP, and
all these things underneath the hood, what can actually be done
with that? Because it's decentralised, and no, no one
owns it. Yeah, I mean, there's a whole big centralised universe
of Gmail users. But that doesn't mean that they're stuck with
Gmail, they understand by
concept, which by the way, is the target market,
of course, but we don't want to recreate a centralised thing.
No, no, no, I don't do either. We do want to be able to do
basically, you want to be able to create social media, using
email protocols. And you as an individual control everything
and part of this came from someone sent me a note and said,
John's blocking me I guess you have a block list. And you
actually have something that is I think, within squirrel mail or
on your your guy's server, whatever, it actually rejects
the email. Yes, it literally rejects the email, I saw the
SMTP logs, and it says, you know, your porn go a bad guy.
That's literally what the what the server says it was very
funny. So you are in full control of a social network that
has all the elements you need. It's just the metaphor of email,
of messaging, of mailboxes, and in and that's what's wrong. And
that can be fixed. And I think that concept, once you've
figured that out, everything else falls into place. You can
build this this email client out of bits and pieces in a week.
The first thing that has to be figured out is what is the
thinking?
Just as though you're now old fashioned? Oh, I'm not old, I'd
be being such an optimist about software. And only take a week
boss.
Let me ask you a very important question before we ever continue
with anything which we probably won't because we never get off
our asked, what is the proper spelling of email?
Well, that depends on the style guide you look at it could be
small e dash mail, it can be large e dash mail, it can be
email all one word with a small e. And I think technically it
should be capital E dash mail, but it's nobody uses that.
Is there no official John C. Dvorak authoritative spelling?
I used I tend to write e small e dash male
male also small m.
Yeah, yeah.
I will adhere to that.
And those people the RSS is not the is not there's no reader.
There wasn't everyone jumped on board with Google Reader. Google
Reader said, oh, you know, this RSS thing is annoying. Let's get
rid of that. Oh, I know. Let's shut down Google Reader. Don't
you understand? I'm just reading chatroom. Email is truly the
thing everybody has everybody gets it. And it's decentralised.
So anyway, that'll be my project for 2014, one of the many. And
I'll let you know when I'm ready to do that Kickstarter with you.
And we will go on to win many awards with this weekend email.
This week, and
you can email Hey, everybody, welcome to This Week in email.
I'm Adam curry and John, what kind of email Did you receive
this week?
I got two notes today from listeners. One of them said Hi,
John. Love the show.
Hey, just back to the end the NFAA set section 1072 Just as a
little yuck for Adams strategic plan for the management of the
electromagnetic spectrum which is new to the document in which
a an inventory of the uses of the electromagnetic spectrum for
national security purposes and other purposes will be evaluated
along with an estimate of the need for electromagnetic
spectrum and national security and other purposes over each of
the periods specified in subsection that I don't see much
else then that being about enps
No, full, please.
What else is it for?
It's about the radio spectrum. Wrap your spectrums they want to
grab everything
that would be not the electromagnetic spin spectrum. I
think that would be a definite yes. That's
the electromagnetic spectrum they want to grab radio
frequencies. I'm not so sure. Yes, yes. Yes. They wanted to
because they can do it using the send data over them. So they
this is that the clamp down on that they will firstly want to
get the internet which is over the wire, then they want to get
the wireless stuff and buy it or they want to have access they
want to be they want to own it all they want to own all methods
of communication. So I can't talk to you.
Okay, so All right. So if if that is true, then this is a
much more important piece. Because this podcast is also
emanated and transmitted through electromagnetic spectrum. Yes.
Through cable and through that is that is
if your cables like an egg on the on wire. Yeah,
I think electromagnetic radiation might have been more
appropriate than but okay. I'm with you.
Yeah, it's just want to grab everything. Because he got to
lock it down at some point that you know, there we had Obama and
again, the internet kill switch a couple years ago, if you
remember. Yeah. And you know, and they got everyone was all
upset about that. And so they had this this is essentially all
about and this is the great internet kill switch in the nd
AAA, they're gonna grab everything. They're gonna grab
the electromagnetic spectrum. Everything over the internet so
the wires, and they just had some point where they say, Oh,
my God, that country's running. People are getting irked.
They're having food riots shut it down.
That by the way in my book is not possible. I don't think that
I don't think a true Kill Switch is possible.
I think the way things are going it could eventually be possible
now it's it's still a lot. It's a lot. A lot of work. It's
always some guy reminds me of I can play clips out of order that
I'm always reminded of. I have a bunch of clips that I want to
play about the deep freeze coming up.
Don't we don't we own? Isn't the the airways isn't that to the
property of the people? I'm sorry. What am I? What am I even
thinking? You think? I'm so stupid? Sorry. It's the people
here in Texas. It's actually started in Austin, we have a
five gigahertz mesh network running TCP IP, okay, most of
Texas and it's done on old Linksys routers with the WR G
you know, the old firmware, the open source firmware stuff,
okay, you load that up. And you have to be a ham radio operator,
you load that stuff up, you put up your little antenna, boom,
you connect and this thing is also in turn connected to the
internet. But you can connect to other guys hardware. You can
then connect your own Wi Fi devices to your to your router.
It's pretty cool. It's it's it's the Texas work. I've tried it
but only in experimental sense. So I didn't I didn't have a
fixed antenna or anything but it works immediately. The minute
you put your little antenna in the air, it seeks it finds it
connects it meshes, boom, you're done. You get an IP address.
It's very sweet. So there's that there's no there is no that's
just Texas. And that's just a little it's also just him. It's
Texas being hostile to the United States is what it is.
Well, there's that. That's okay. First thing to do is shut that
thing down with a couple of
days. Yeah, well, we have within the ham community you have the
the snitches. We like
tonnes of them call the
FCC and go. Yeah, he didn't ID properly every 10 minutes.
That's true. He's supposed to do his ID every 10 minutes. He
didn't do it. That's true. Yeah. As Nazis.
Yeah, I know. There's a bunch of those guys. They enjoy. They're
on all the time. They're sitting there usually. You know, they're
trolls. It's
it's like an ant chat. Internet chat room troll. That's what
it's the same. It's the same sad personality type. Yeah, same
thing.
doing their job. Their job school monitor. Monitor
with the big key chain. Yeah, but jingle pass. Were you ever a
home? Not a hall pass? Were you ever a hall monitor John?
We never had him when I was a kid. Okay. And I wouldn't have
been one if I if I had the chance. Give me a break.
That did you want to go into something about Deep Freeze?
Actually,
we're gonna I'll let it sit in we'll do that little while when
we get to climate gate. Well, let me
then. Thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you
John C. Dvorak.
Also in the morning all the ships at sea boots on the ground
feet in the air subs in the water all the days and nights
out there.
Okay for the religious cadence and in the morning to all of our
human resources in the chat room nogen the stream.com good to
have your you guys all here also, thank you to our artists
I'm just about to check and see if the generator is up, no
agenda art generator.com is down. So we'll have to figure
out what we do with art. But our previous art was brought to you
by Nick the rat. And we always like to highlight our artists
for the work that they do and give them credit. And you can
usually find everything and no agenda art generator.com I guess
someone have to email us directly. If they have art for
today, because I don't know if this thing is going to come back
up before the end of the show. She called Paul I sent him a
note.
Okay, well, he when he gets up, maybe he'll,
yeah, we know he's not listening to the show. Yeah,
apparently not. God forbid. Yeah, I heard that stuff before.
So the way we we do this show, and the only way that we can do
it is by it's kind of like the government in a way. If you
don't get a tax credit for your donation, you get value, actual
value that is incomparable to anything else in the news media
sphere. We're so good. We're not allowed to win awards.
What happens if we won?
It's not good, don't worry. It's not going to happen. It will not
happen.
I know but I was just saying practice theoretically.
If we won, then immediately we do a whole new imaging package.
We close the show. No, and it starts off like Welcome to the
award winning no agenda podcast number one in its category.
Yeah, we take out billboards.
Okay. Like have you heard the commercials? Yeah.
Then we can totally screw the producers then we're gonna take
ads. It's gonna be great. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna work.
Carbonite. No. So instead, we have we have a kind of it is
funny a an upgrade of the traditional Hollywood model. We
have a producers producers who provide us with funding and they
receive credit unlike Hollywood, you don't get to bang actresses
or actors or anything like that. But you do get the credit. They
are useful wherever credits can be used, including LinkedIn.
fact that this has helped people get gigs and they remains on
record.
A lot of people put it on their signature to on their email. a
tonne of people do that.
And you are part of a a ever growing community who are
awakened, enlightened and will understand you in a moment's
notice of you saying ITM that's all it will take
ITM works to TM worldwide. In fact, like I said, some might
guess last year somebody Mimi was at the the Costco in scrim
Washington and somebody behind her said ITM and then they
disappeared.
I thought we weren't going to talk about her encounter with
Barbra Streisand.
Like these wasn't Barbra Streisand who did that? Sorry.
thank a few people who contributed became the executive
producer, Associate Executive Producer for show five ad
starting with Mark Beckwith, and he's in Fort Worth, Texas. And
by the way, everyone in Texas knows that Fort Worth is where
all the real money is true. Most of the rich guys are in Houston.
But those are rich guys. But the money real established Texas
money's in Fort Worth.
Yeah, that's why they were part of Dallas and they said hey,
let's go make a rich guys place over here.
Yeah, we'll call what's your big Texas Fort Worth?
Listen to the name for we're protected by the Fort Worth is
where all the worth is. Kiska? Exactly how much you worth? I'm
not at all I'm in Fort Worth.
Fort Worth. And Mark backwoods is obviously one of these people
because here's his note, John and Adam, thank you for your
courage. St. Mark Beckwith
Well, thank you very much. And he becomes a knight today. Yeah,
instruments. And I think he was the one that emailed me. He was
very concerned about Pay Pal is vague. He said, But if Pay Pal
takes, you know, two or 3% And how much do I have to send to
make my $1,000 Night donations and now we eat that? Don't worry
about it. Don't we eat that? That's part of our cost? Yeah.
Okay.
And that's thoughtful. That's a man of few words.
Yes. Thank you, Mark. And you will become Did you have any
special title? Yeah.
I read the the notice shops or mark.
Okay, good. Fabulous. Thank you so much for your courage mark.
So David Foley, Archduke of Silicon Valley, came in again to
become the sole member of the five ad club with five at ITM,
John and Adam, thank you for your courage and continuing to
deliver the best podcast in the universe.
We know we can take out ads in Variety magazine congratulating
ourselves when we win. Oh, that's right. That's cool.
Listen to that. Wow. That's military warning. Just they're
they're just little afterburner warning for curry. Well, hey,
just so you know. Oh, my god. That was right over the house.
Dude, I mean, Austin.
Yeah, I can hear it too. Holy moly. Anyways, please send a
little no agenda karma as we launch our new 4k streaming set
top box at CES. Just this week he's going to be at CES provided
a showing, are you going $50 of this donation is matching funds
from a no agenda listener?
That means we he sold three boxes using our code. Yeah.
Which was what was the code?
And just na? Na,
are you going spider from Fourcade? What's the name of the
company? You go to 4k special.com? Or K
special.com? Are you going
to CES?
I'm doing everything I can to avoid it. So it's gonna be tough
to see. Do I want to go to CES is what you should ask.
John, do you want to go to CES? Hell no. Okay.
It's a nightmare.
Very interesting. As I was watching a couple of the quote,
te CH, end quote shows tech shows tech shows which consists
mainly of jabbering chicks. But yeah, this year phones, yeah,
this year every. And I'll be sexist in this case, because I
hear it from the chicks mainly. They're all saying the same
thing. Yeah, see, it's gonna be such a drag. We have tired fi to
walking for hours. And now there's gonna be 500 products, I
really only want to write about four or five. And these are
women who sound like that. Wow, you watch you you watch. This is
women that the tech girl and women chick things. Bitches
community are bitching. As they're saying the same thing
and it's, it's disheartening. It's like, go find some go.
Don't just go and have the PR thing in your hand and go to all
the can demos, find out do some news research. There's
some reports a lot of cool stuff. If you go into the
backroom, little things I don't
know about you and your back rooms, but you can do some real
reporting. It sounds like everyone is so jaded. That's a
good fee. So So annoy the traffic rolly Sox. It's all bad.
I don't know what that might feed.
is everyone's got all these women are angling for a foot
rub. Let's face it.
Well, there's something I would go to CES just to rub all their
feet.
That you would anyway,
let's give our Archduke Sir David Foley some karma for his
support of the show. You've got Carmen and May you have many of
these tech Chicky show up and write nice things about your
product, Sir David.
So I came up with the you know, if I was doing editing a
magazine, it was tech. And you're right. The women are
taking over the whole thing because they like to all play
games. They all think they're nerds. And I think you want to
you want to see where this is going to end up? And how it
would end up and what would really draw the crowd and
what people would read naked chicks reviewing.
Here's the headline, Britney Spears reviews, three phones.
Taylor Swift about your next iPad?
Exact this is a good idea. By the way. She's telling me
Beyonce beyond email.
Exactly. That would rock.
This is a good idea. We're crazy. And I know the Biebs
shows you how to tweet.
Yeah, no, that would be that you can might you might as well if
you're writing about tech, and this and that, that what I just
described and followed up with began to happen. You're done.
What is what happened with Twitter? I predicted that when
Twitter first came up, I was actually top 10 Would followers
like 9000 It wasn't that many. But at the time I and I always
said once Britney Spears and the rest of these people start
tweeting, you're done. You're not going to be in the top 1000
years old. Right.
Right. Right. Kim Kim K on best camcorders for your sex tape.
Read that. Read it show.
We'd all read it. That's the problem. This is a
great idea. John. We're rich.
Yeah, yeah, well let's thank our producers instead. John sex John
St. Peters, Missouri 333 33 Here's a link from an audio
recording introduced requested clips from the show I'd love it
if you decide to use my recording which I don't did you
get I don't know
because I never saw this I had no okay
well maybe we'll we'll take a look at it for next show. In the
morning thanks for your courage how fond you are of Bitcoin know
how fond your of bitcoins but I recently made a bunch of money
through speculation on said bitcoins by using Adams analysis
of the price going to $1,000 per Bitcoin. Therefore, I compelled
to make another donation toward my knighthood. I would like to
reserve the title Baron of the Dark Net also, I wanted to tell
you that I recently hit my friend Kevin in the mouth with
the show. Kevin is an entrepreneur and he is out there
trying to create jobs with gift card drainer.com This may come
in that's actually not a bad idea. What is that? Well, I
think it would it does. It's It's the gift card drainer.com
and read this is the quickest and easiest way to drain the
balance from Visa and MasterCard. giftcards directly
to the bank. If you're Adam and John, in the morning to you and
think I have that you think
if you want to hear it,
I would listen to it after you decide. Adam, you'd also like to
get the money in your favourite cryptocurrency Bitcoins. Now
that Kevin has been listening for a few weeks, he's planning
to make a donation on his own. So hopefully, you'll skip
Boehner status and go right to donor. Thanks and keep up the
great work. You know, gift cards are the biggest scam in the
world.
Yeah, because most people forget about them. And you that's the
idea. You forget the card and it expires, which is illegal in
California, by the way they pass a law they can never expire.
Oh, really? We got those places. We got a number of those on the
first Hot Pockets tour and a couple on the second. And it's
Yeah, I mean, we Mickey is really good about this stuff. I
have to say she's like, we're getting gas. Okay, I'm going to
do and of course with these cards, this, they're also
programmed to fail kind of you so we had like 100 Buck Visa
card. And it's okay, let's go use it, get some gas, and you
swipe the card and it wouldn't work, then you would have to go
in and see the guy or whatever. And so it's discouraging.
Yeah, no, they're a scam. Now this, this gift card drainer
device, somebody gave me a gift card go. Not that I have used
it. I know it works. But just the idea. I would dump the card
immediately. Just pull it out and say give me the money,
unfortunately, probably going to lose some percentage. You like
those coins orders that they have in stores?
Remember, I told you we got to the flexible spending account
for pre tax dollars that you can spend on doctors and stuff?
Yeah, and it's a whopping two and a half $1,000 a year a
whopping I'll say so Mickey has all these doctors that the
insurance doesn't cover for her, you know for Jesus, thyroid,
thyroid, all kinds of stuff. It's no it's the brains man.
We're trying to fix the brains. And so she goes to the to her
favourite doctor and it's and she's Oh, I've got the credit
card and declined and first tried time she tries to use it
declined. Then you have to call these assholes. I'm sorry. I'm
off topic. I'm just angry.
Okay, well, it sounds reasonable to be angry. Sir Bill Baumann in
Port port. Why nimi? California $300. Good job on the Apple bomb
business. My major comment is that Apple bombs seems to be
worried about it, which was on the last show for people who
haven't heard show 579 It's quite interesting. My major
comment is that Apple bomb seems to be worried about what I would
call being routine software development for the iPhone, the
instructions to turn on GPS microphones and other
surveillance capabilities available by any at any WWDC
conference, as well as the developer forums all over the
internet. So what's the big deal? Many websites and
applications used these capabilities also the Russians,
Chinese and even the Germans can get this information routinely.
Obviously, all the major professional intelligence
services already have this ability. The NSA is not alone in
having major information technology capability. Ever
since key loggers and carnivore year 2000 Or earlier, our
personal privacy has been compromised. Personally, I do
not see a real solution to this privacy invasion. Don't forget
Android and Windows phones, friends. They have developer
conferences and development forums as well. They send out
some general karma to everyone because we can all use it.
Sir bill brings up some excellent points. If you go to
the Apple Store and speak to a gene Yes. They will. They
essentially connect with their you know, their little iPads or
whatever writing to your phone through Wi Fi. I think they
activate something on the phone. But yeah, this is like true. I
got so many emails from people about that the majority I will
say like thank you for exposing this douchebag. Apparently you
also use the word the word vector in one of the speech I
had, we didn't neither you or I caught it. But apparently, one
of those clips we played he was talking about some vector, which
is always you know, the big oops, it turns out the guy
didn't even programme really in Tor. He's the evangelist Did you
know this? He's not the developer.
Know the developers some I heard the developer speaks once in a
while I can't remember.
They have a pretty big team that is funded of course by the
mainly the government and the government stooges like Google,
but he's just he's, he's the evangelist. Anyway. A lot of
people got very good, very focused on this kind of thing
because it is interesting. And you know, you have a device like
this. So you want to see if the, if the compromise is real. And
yeah, all of this this is this is I agree, this is no big
secret, but it's also not the bulk of what's taking place. It
just isn't. Now they can also come in, put a gun to my head
and take everything is this just as possible or send a drone and
blow me up and then say it was a gas explosion. All of that can
happen. But the true dragnet is what's being obfuscated. Anyway,
let's get the general purpose carpet everybody. Yeah, everyone
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Sir l family in Amarillo, Texas $205 I got a note from them from
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only I had helped them sooner.
So I went to a Taco Bell. Wow. Yeah, once in a while I get
this.
This has not been in a long time eat for
one of those bean burritos which is essentially flowers and
flower burrito and beans. Which I used to have when I was a kid
because I there's a Mexican family down the street from me.
So I've always liked that combination. But I noticed
something curious, which I think is interesting. I'm gonna
probably tweet this. All the packages of the little hot
sauces have messages on them now.
Oh, like little slogans? No, no, they're
crazy messages like, like the I got I grabbed three of them just
for the show. One of them said it says the Saudis right in the
cells a package says Why say no. When you can say yes. These are
all sexually suggestive.
Oh, no, this is no, this is for stoners.
And here's another one ready? Yeah. You have chosen wisely.
Okay. Here's one that I think is gonna get people in trouble. And
Honey, can I have the some sod Sasha here, sweetie? And it says
on the hot sauce. Will you marry me? Yeah,
yes. I'd love to is the railing the taco?
Wow, how romantic. said holy crap. How many people are
getting their proposal from us from well?
Hold on. I know how the meeting went. Okay, I had a I had an
idea for our clients Taco Bell. And the idea was that if we put
all these crazy slogans on packages, and we'll put some
cool ones in there, like, will you marry me? Like I'm sure
someone at some point will see this and go oh, crap. I'll just
like propose now and then we'll have great free PR. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure that's how some of that went.
I have absolutely your I think you nailed it. That's the only
possibility or the reason yeah. Because at some point,
somebody's gonna get married because of the Taco Bell hot
sauce package. And it's gonna get on TV and it probably
proliferate on the you know, actually, they'll probably
produce it themselves.
Da Oh, hold on a second. Is this. Is this on? Mix? Are you
John's? Sorry?
You're right. What else would a video press release?
Put it in the book. Just put it in the book. It might as well
put it in the book. Okay, because we didn't put the kid
hot sauce wedding. We didn't put the kid with a weed cookie in
the in the book. And now look where it got us. We didn't get a
check mark in the book.
Yes, true. It's so
easy. I mean, we do the tough ones. We should take the easy
hand low hanging fruit from time to time.
That's definitely low hanging fruit with these types of so
he's talking about size packages.
Oh, man. So I was kind of focused on. You know, of course,
once I had the NDA thing, I'm like, you know, holy crap. I
gotta go to the Federal Register and see what else happened now.
Yeah, of course something else happened. The
Obama administration announced two new executive actions
affecting background checks for gun buyers today. Both focus on
limiting firearm access for People with mental health
issues. One rule that's hospitals submit additional
information about a patient's mental health into the
background check system. President Obama proposed tough
gun control measures in Congress last year in the wake of the new
town school shootings, but they got little support. Now, of
course,
you're going to hear a little reporting about this. This was
PBS. And the rules aren't really available. I haven't really been
able This is a Health and Human Services regulation. You
can't this is illegal is the reason that
yes, it is illegal. There's a thing called HIPAA which now
essentially through executive, well, they're calling an
executive action. But then some will say executive order, it is
not I have not seen an executive order executive action is a
different phrase. I don't know if it's different legally,
technically. But now a hospital. If you have left, for instance,
if you feel a little wigged out, and you're like, oh, you know, I
just don't I whatever my job, I lost my job. You know, my dog
got run over my wife hate ran away, my with the gardener, my
kids hate me. I'm freaking out. I just got, I just I need to go,
I need to be somewhere, you can check yourself in to a hospital,
whatever and you and that your insurance would even cover it.
Like I'm freaking out. I just need I'm freaking out. When you
check out the hospital can now legally submit that as as a
visiting a mental entity institution. That's what I'm
reading from the fact sheet. And they can add that into
pose though that's not actually law.
No, it's no, it's not law. It's now by executive action. It's
now I still don't believe that that's legal. What do you mean,
it's an executive, the executive, the president can do
whatever he wants, you said you yourself say this all the time.
They are so restricted on what you can say about your hospital
visit and get an approved client just like being a client
attorney thing only with doctors that I don't believe that you
can just take a piece of information and pull it from
your your medical record, which is what this is, and then give
it to the government.
Um, let me read you from the fact sheet. And of course, we're
talking about HIPAA, the Health Insurance Portability,
Accountability Act, which has privacy provisions. But in
April, and I think we identified this health and human services
start to identify the scope and extent of the reporting problem.
But based on public comments, now has a rule change to
eliminate the barrier by giving certain HIPAA covered entities
so that, okay, here's what they've done. certain entities
that will be the hospital, but maybe not the doctor
specifically, and express permission to submit to the
background check system, the limited information necessary to
help keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands.
Now, it doesn't matter whether you think it's legal or not,
it's not being reported on and it is the war on crazy that we
said this always was going to be and today that hospital submit
something so you can't get your hands on a gun. And this
background system check will then be used for a whole bunch
of other things, you should probably shouldn't go to the
public pool. Because you know, there's kids there. And you
know, you remember that time you checked in. And it's just how it
is. And then you get a nice yellow star and a number on your
arm. This is how it always ends. Unless someone stands up and
says stop this crap. And the next president, she will have to
undo this.
Well, she's not going to do anything. Somehow pat her bank
account
shut. Well, if we can still have hope. There's young people who
listen to this show. John, we can still tell people what they
need to do
is nobody who listens to this show is a Clinton bot.
But people, people that have influence people can vote, they
can talk to their friends and their family. It's a long
process. These things don't change overnight, but at least
at least we're saying it.
I think you're missing the big news, which I thought was kind
of funny. Bezos clip.
Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos is recovering from kidney
stones, and is praising international effort that
rescued him. Bezos was on a cruise around the Galapagos
Islands on New Year's Day when he became ill. The Ecuadorian
Navy took him by helicopter to Baltra Island, and then a
private plane took him back to the US for emergency surgery.
Amazon says Bezos emailed his company today giving the Navy
five stars in the kidney stone. Zero stars hole hole hole.
This is what you get when you don't print when we want in the
post. Bezos.
You know, Bezos is drink more water Water. That's you know, I
had a kidney stone once. Oh,
I've seen somebody in the bathroom who had a kidney stone
is not pretty
god. Well it happened at night. It moved it moved. I didn't have
a problem with it like apparently he had a big rock in
there some I don't know. I mean, they're very miniscule. He's
there's dinky, although I never saw it. But it got out of there
on its own. You passed it. Yeah. Thank God, it was probably the
most painful thing. You can't even imagine that you know what,
I don't know. I've never been stabbed with a knife. But I
assumed that if you were stabbed in the kidney with a knife,
that's kind of what it would feel like, right. And curiously,
for some reason, I had that I had the inner knowledge that it
was a kidney stone and it was moving did so I've managed to
get through it. But I was like, why does it ghost and it was
like you sweat and you get a quick fever and it goes away
instantly. And then you then you're fine. Just instantly it's
the weirdest thing you've ever had. But it was from I got I was
coming back from China. Wait,
did the Chinese navy come to save? You
know, nobody saved me. I was at home. But I knew what it was. I
wasn't drinking enough water when I was travelling, right.
You gotta drink water people. This is the diabo travel chip.
Every few shows. Drink more water when you're travelling
Travel Tip. Tip number today,
if you think that was the big news, I mean, Bezos. I call him
Bezos. I was Bezos by Colin by
the way Bezos or Bezos, whatever he wants to call himself Yes.
How about the other people they take him to Ecuador and then he
takes apply private jet home by the way, he must have been in
agony for a number of hours. Yeah, but who can afford this?
Oh, and he is a jet. How about the Navy? The Navy can depend
the
Navy there. Yeah, I wonder if they comped him.
Him. Amen. Can we get some Amazon Prime accounts? Ah, you
thought that was big Neil Bezos, Bezos. He's dumb. He didn't even
get anything out of the deal. At least Gates got some free PR or
maybe that was the whole point
for for Defence Secretary Robert Gates is in a neck brace after
he fell at his home in western Washington yesterday. His office
staff says he was hospitalised overnight in Seattle because he
fractured one of his vertebrae. Gates is due to release his
memoir called duty on January 14. His staff says he's
determined to go ahead with a heavy schedule of personal
appearances. Gates was secretary of defence under Presidents
George W. Bush and Barack Obama before retiring in 2011.
So real or fake?
Well, I could have been somebody pushing down the stairs or,
Hey, we need some heat on this book, man. It's like how are we
going to do? No, no one cares. No one even knows about gates
anymore. They'll never knew about this thing. It's Bill
Gates, his brother, what are you going to do?
He lives in Seattle
push the fucker down the stairs. Oh, we've got a report here. His
book is on the way and he's got a crushed vertebrae but he's a
trooper. That's right. He is he's gonna come out and still
promote that book. Wow, you're so awesome.
Look, I you know, as you mentioned, I never knew about
this book at all. It's gonna be a total dog.
Yeah, well, at least they're trying. Well, yeah, it's a good
try. took one for the Gipper.
took one for the team.
I think that's good. I think that's outstanding. Outstanding,
I say.
So I do have some climate gate stuff if you want to just could
run through it.
Yeah, well, we can actually do to the gate to the to the
clinic. I have have some stuff too.
But one for one. So oops. There's a you know that we on
the show? I think we've decided I at least I have and I think
you may be in this with me. We've decided that there is
global change. Climate change, and it's cooling we are we're at
the beginning of an ice age. Yes. And that's because it will
kill off a lot of people and it will benefit the elites
well hold on it's not by telling them to buy speedos it'll kill
them off because people should be learning how to skin deer and
skin bears and and it's also part of the anti fire movement
by the way that's also to kill you so you're not warm when the
when the Ice Age hits.
Well, in fact your reminds me of this clip, which is the
icebreaker clip which you may have to which which will play.
You'd like to call them the rich kids from Instagram, but did you
know that they were going to the Antarctic to study global
warming?
Yes, but I have some I'll play the clip and I have a late night
clip and then I have some additional info.
The US Coast Guard is sending an icebreaker to help to stranded
ships in Antarctica. The polar star is moving from Sydney to
the south on request from Australia, Russia and China. It
will help break a path in the eyes for the ships to leave The
Russian ship got stuck on Christmas Eve. This week the
Chinese ship received airlifted passengers successfully, but
then it too became stuck in the ice.
Okay, so the guy who led this expedition, Chris Turney wrote
an op ed in The Guardian. I don't need to read the whole
thing to you, but I can give you the headline, Antarctic
Expedition, quote, this wasn't a tourist trip. It was all about
science, and it was worth it. And then the follow up is
research trip, a ship trapped in Antarctic ice because of whether
or not climate change which is even more hilarious, because of
course, the global warming is all say that, well, yes. Now
weather is climate. But when the ship gets stuck in the ice, it's
it's weather is not climate. Anyway, so I found the details
of this trip, the scientific exploration of the unknown
region. And there's a beautiful PDF, the spirit of Mohsen, this
is this was essentially a rich Pete This is why they all look
like they were drunk and happy because they weren't drunk and
happy. This was a rich people's trip. Very much like rich people
who have just a lot of expendable cash will buy a trip
on you know, Branson's spaceship, which may never
happen but you know, you get to drink with each other. You get
jackets, you get to go train on the vomit comment, you know,
your zero G training, you go to exotic places. Let me tell you
about this trip. This this expedition, this climate science
expedition. And I have I have the sales material here. Our
ship the Chewbacca Buckeye beaks is a true expedition vessel
built in 1984. For polar and ocean ocean oceanographic
research, she is fully ice strengthened. This class of
vessel is world renowned for polar exploration. A range of
births are available. In fact, we can have 20 We have 26 berths
available for this trip. So there were 26 births available
on this trip. The Mini Suite for $18,900 per person. Cabins
include a separate bedroom and a double bed and a single bed or
sofa in lounge, writing desk wardrobe and drawers private
bathroom and shower toilet and wash base and large side facing
windows to allow great views. Of course you could have gone for
the superior plus, which is a little cheaper 17,500 per person
that has to lower birth so not a big bed so you can have sex on
while you're in the ice. And then of course there was the
superior only 16,900 per person and this includes a one bunk one
upper one lower also with writing desk wardrobe drawers,
private bathroom and shower toilet and washbasin. This was a
cruise and they gave lectures and talks on board little
climate lectures. This is for people who have too much money
who want to go on a little adventure some go to Kilimanjaro
you know some pay rich guys with so called spacecrafts and some
team up with these guys and by the way, it's perfectly valid
nothing against that it's called exciting tourism whatever it is,
and it's this is exactly what the global warming climate
change scam is all about. It's a scam I mean a scam not really a
scam but you know it's
not a scam it's just an expensive thing for rich guys.
Yeah
18 So if you want
you and your wife it'd be $36,000
And that does not include it does include a full catering
I'll see here the prices are I gotta zoom in
yeah what do you get for that money? You
gotta I'll tell you this little the prices quoted above include
all onboard ship accommodation and full catering but does not
include laundry drinks. Hello. Oh, money those guys. Hey, open
imagine
you gave drinks away to this drunk yeah, you'd have known
that you'd be go broke on
the deal. It also does not include international or
domestic flights to their hotel price drinks to course you want
a bottle of Mo a Yeah, that's $70
Please that might be higher might be more
does not include visa or personal travel insurance. And
you know, particularly for this guy, the infant The Guardian,
The Guardian You're so sad that you let this guy write an
article an op ed saying it wasn't a tourist trip. Um, you
see I actually I've read the last bit of it here. Morale
remained high. The media interest helped twice daily
briefings on the situation were accompanied by reports from the
media at home and overseas interviews the team gave
provided a chance to reassure those at home that all were well
of course their their meal ticket, the rich azules were on
the boat don't kill them. Or maybe By
the time a day,
but they also described our science work, much of which was
followed up online using the expedition website and social
media such as Google Plus, Twitter, Vine and Facebook. In
spite of the situation, we found ourselves in the AAE had a
conversation with the public about science, exploration. And
Mohsen there really does remain a passion for the subject.
Sadly, though, there seems to be a few people who have just
caught the last few days of the conversation. That will be us.
That's definitely us.
That will be us. vs. Yeah. So essentially, they even said that
they we they continue to give talks and lectures on board
because this is it's what you do. My Uncle Pete took a trip.
He was like, it was like the ambassador's meeting or
something. It's a State Department organised thing, and
they get a whole bunch of ambassadors and friends, of
course, and lobbyists and god knows what else and they they
get a beautiful ask boat, a beautiful, private luxury yacht,
but a big one that looks like a mini cruiser. And they go around
Spain, and this is entertainment and there's networking. And then
yeah, my uncle that the pay a dime is how it works in this
case. Now the punters themselves paid for it.
Yeah, well, that's what these things are.
To let let's just let's not, let's not lie about it. And you
know, and it's a good it's a good idea.
Yeah, they're promoting it.
They're gonna go down to the confined the old huts. It's
exciting. It is just like we're gonna and they got their Mo who
paid for getting the chopper to take them out of there. They
gotta get a big bill at the end of the day. Yeah. I guess maybe
traveler's insurance would cover that or,
or, Hey, Mr. Curry, and Dvorak. Yep. So little unexpected thing
here. We're caught in the ice. But you know, for an extra
10,000 We can chopper you off.
Or you can wait it out. Yeah, that's how I do it. Yeah, that's
probably
just like the Linux Cruise is the same thing. It's all the
same thing. It's just for rich people. That's fine. There's
this guy in Holland. He has he also now has a one of these
spaces, rocket scams, and he set it up on karoq Curacao, where
there is a sports space port or whatever. Any of you hire one of
the guys who's been in the in this in the in the sky lab or
the space station or some, you know, one of the astronauts
whose name you never know, you know? Oh, yeah, he was on
mission 29 And he's your guy and you let him do some speeches and
you charge everyone 50,000 And they get a spot on the rocket
ship when it's ready. You give everybody jackets that says my
other cars are rocket ship. And not kidding. I'm not kidding
you. This is this is really this is true. And then everyone gets
the
other cars are right. Yeah. And so douche bag.
Yes. And people were like Oh, yeah. And then
this is what has come to this is why we haven't had a full
economic collapse because this sort of thing would be out. This
gets all depression stuff everything you're telling me
it's just all earmarks. You know the dekat ends on the with the
people with the money and everyone else starving to death.
And of course then there's the deep freeze let's play a couple
of these clips so we get them out of the way. Deep just start
with this is our thesis about global cooling play Deep Freeze
USA.
dire warnings about a deep freeze expected to hit the
Midwest, New England and even the South. Some meteorologist
say parts of the country could see near record or record
breaking lows. The forecasts are so alarming that an entire state
has said there will be no school on Monday.
Make sure that cup gets nice and hot. A cup of boiling water
through a frigid northern Canada night. That's how cold it is in
Canada and more cold on its way. It's called the polar vortex. In
a model it's a rainbow swirl of neon purples and blues and
greens. But on the ground it's punishing and dangerous cold air
from the Arctic. This after snow in the Northeast in some places
up to two feet. At least 16 people were killed many in car
crashes. Three others from exposure to the extreme cold.
The National Weather Service says Come tomorrow night parts
of Minnesota could see a temperature dip to a mind
boggling 55 below. flesh can freeze in minutes at 35 below.
So schools will be closed Monday throughout the entire state
for kind of whether we're in five minutes 10 minutes kids can
get significant frostbite and the governor I want to ensure
that all kids are safe.
I love that swirl thing that sounded hot.
You know it seems to me that this is much more dig over the
taking the side of global cooling and a new ice age is
much more fun.
Yeah, you dialogue quicker?
It's it's just more interesting. And of course, then it is, don't
you think?
Well, I'm just waiting any day now I'm waiting for it to flip.
And you know what? The people will go along? This is this is
so idiotic. Okay, you can put this in the book within the next
five years, some this will flip and it will all be about, of
course, the global warming created the global the global
cooling, and that's why we're in the mini ice age, right? I mean,
you can see it on that day, you can see it happening and
everyone will be all on board and the next IPCC report will be
all we're all gonna die from frostbite because of the global
warming and people will go Yeah, that makes sense.
They will know they will do whatever they're told they'll do
it. Meanwhile, of course, and I was gonna bring this up earlier,
they had to have a little piece to it because it's going to be
freezing in North Alabama too, apparently. So like all good
news reporters and all good news and all good packages. And this
came out of a package obviously because you're not going to send
somebody from Oakland to you know, some hick town in Alabama
to ask somebody what they're gonna pay
Hey, easy on Alabama. It's
not a hiccup Well, no, I'm just saying this is a hick town that
they went to and and because when you're gonna do any of
these stories, you got to find the dumbest guy you can because
we have to get this out please. They didn't Texas all the time.
California story about a Texas you find a toothless guy
somewhere roaming around and you interview him yeah, here's
the interview hates them homosexuals in them black
people.
So you find somebody in Alabama and they found some some woman
who lives in a in a shack and all she has is kin would Caitlyn
is called is expected to reach into the deep south all the way
to Jasper, Alabama and Tijuana Blaze his house. We hate with
wooden nets that we eat with this wooden kindling
you know you guys in California should be shot for that. That's
really offensive. We hate with wood. That's all we got
kindling, we might have.
If the kindling runs out, we're done. I might have been last
year and in a cold day
might have to break the wooden tires off my kid's bicycle. And
when he used that as kindling wood and might have to take my
my wooden leg off. You know, the one I got the wooden leg might
have to he might burn Purdy for a little while we at least have
some kindling for the cold night. Now, what they're doing
now. Now here's the here's what you'll see over the next few
days. Because of course, it is summer in Australia. And because
of urbanisation. And the way you know, natural burning no longer
occurs. And we have proof of this. And the fact that the
military started the fires that are that were raging down there.
They're going to say well, no, no, this is all extremes. We
have minus 56. in Manitoba, but in Australia, in the outback.
It's you know, it's plus 120. So clearly the earth is confused
and global climate change and everything. It's we can't win
this debate.
We don't have to it's just good material,
right? It's damn good material. It's damn good. I'm amazed that
people haven't lynched us over this. I'm amazed that you're
allowed in many buildings. Because of your stance.
wear a sweater or anything it says global warming. bullcrap.
Can
somebody please knit John a sweater? It says global warming
is bullcrap.
I do have a lot of I do have friends though that are not
obviously none of them listen to no agenda these certain but why
would
a friend of course not. They should burn books while they're
at it.
They say I don't know how you can buy into that. It's just a
Republican propaganda. What?
No, no, no, no, no, no, my favourite is the oil and gas
industry. Billions of dollars billions of dollars to bloggers
everywhere. I'm like, Okay, where's my money? Where's my
dough? Yeah, this is the end if you really look at the numbers
know there's billions going into pro global warming climate
change research. Very little going into any anti but no, the
oil that the Koch brothers, they give billions to bloggers and
alternative media to did create conspiracy theories. I you know,
I fit the birthday. How come they have not a single dime? I'd
gladly take. I'll take some money from those guys. Oh, yeah.
Zero.
Yeah. And that's the way it's going to stay.
Meanwhile, the actual money from the oil and gas industry is
going into funding tonnes of little nonprofits. And this is
now starting to leak through so and it's all anti nuclear. And
nuclear. Of course, if you really are an environment that
convinced
us to complete this the industry as a whole I think it's a subset
of the Indus She personally I think it's a subset of the
industry that's specific to the, to the gas people, the gas guys
the T Boone Pickens types. Um, I don't think the hard oil
drillers the guys who are pulling crude out of the earth
really care that much they know that they have a product that's
very useful for a lot of different things much more so
than gas I might add. And they don't see us for they got they
got to come up with new technology
think as a whole a bit right now. This is another thing that
really doesn't matter because we have something called the
Hiroshima syndrome. There's actually a great blog by a
former nuclear plant operator who's retired now it's Hiroshima
syndrome.com or.org. And he really debunks a lot of the bull
crap about the stuff that we're seeing now even this is my
favourite underground nuclear explosion that crippled Japan
atomic plant shocks the world bullshit there's not there's no
no underground nuclear explosion. So this is part this
is where the propaganda starts. Where did you get that? It's Oh,
it's been emailed to me 10 Time doesn't matter it's it's comes
from one site EU times and any other sites
amount of times is the Boers bullshit.
Now, the one that I've been holding back on that I
researched when it first started and and immediately saw how lame
it was, is the sailors who are who claimed that they got
radiation poisoning from the clean up. And the guy who was
bought into this big time and he he actually has Kevin camps on
his show from beyond nuclear. And beyond nuclear this is this
is a nonprofit, who it's filled with people who are have been
like Arnie Gunderson longtime anti nuke people, they most
definitely get funding from some industry probably you may be gas
doesn't matter that it's their job to make you afraid. And he
has this complete content free discussion with Tom Hartman,
your buddy thumb on our T, which it's laughable. It's I mean,
it's completely laughable, but But it starts in these types of
programming and you get a guy like thumb, the semi quasi the,
what would you call him? He's always
he's really on the progressive libertarian.
Yeah, there you go. And he really thinks that he's that he
knows everything. And he's got some science chops and whatever.
So briefly, this lawsuit, which, which was filed in 2012, was
thrown out, because there was no evidence that any of the claims
were true was thrown out of court. And here and now the
lawyer who was working for it was really only a husband and
wife. But you know, there's this so called talk of 70 sailors who
are joining in a class action which there's no evidence of any
class action or refile but okay. That apparently they got
radiation sickness. And so here's this Kevin camp, his only
job is to make people afraid of nuclear energy. That's his only
job and he has no no knowledge of what he's talking about. And
Tom Hartman is all in.
In the best of the rest of the news, US Navy sailors onboard
the USS Ronald Reagan, were some of the first Americans to
respond to the tsunami and nuclear disaster in Fukushima,
Japan. 2011. Now they're suing TEPCO, the company in charge of
the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. At least 71
sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan have reported radiation
sickness, and is suing TEPCO alleging that the company
knowingly downplayed the dangers of nuclear radiation at that
Fukushima site.
Now Tom here is reading almost verbatim from the websites I've
seen about this. They have not filed saying they had radiation
sickness, that is a lie. They are saying they the plaintiff
say they suffered a number of post accident ailments including
rectal bleeding, gastrointestinal distress, hair
loss, headaches and fatigue. Some allege it has not been
there's no doctors reports, thyroid and gallbladder cancer.
Now the only thing you can get from radiation exposure is hair
loss and thyroid cancer and the cancer takes years to set in
years. And we know this from the 50 or 60 cases from Chernobyl.
And this is all historic this is real historical fact as per like
some real reporting and real organisations, not just some
bullshit,
although 71 sailors at least half now have some form of
cancer, according to a lawyer
representing according to the lawyer representative not not to
any official and other
sailors are dealing with thyroid and reproductive health
problems,
reproductive health problems what what
So did TEPCO knowingly mislead the world about the radioactive
dangers at Fukushima immediately following the devastating
tsunami? And could this lawsuit be the first of many to come?
Joining me now for more on this is Kevin camps radioactive waste
watchdog at beyond nuclear Kevin
radio active waste watchdog doesn't get any better, John,
to astonishing welcome back.
Thanks, Tom. It's always nice to see you. Thank you. So what's
the story? I think I've seen absolutely no coverage of this
in any American media.
No, because it's bullshit.
So, you know, we do I want to stop here on this show. I want
to remind people we actually cover stuff that's not covered
by the mainstream media that that that has some substance.
Yeah, we're not covering just hysterical nonsense.
No. Which and if you do any research, we have five minutes,
you can find the lawsuit that was filed is not 70 people, it
was to husband and wife. They have no medical evidence. You
know, it is absolutely true. That the the helicopters that
came back from rescue missions, the because these ships have
detectors, by the way, it's not like just like, oh, boy, it
looks like well, it's some radiation, I didn't know. You
know, the dosimeters on the on the aircrew, everything they
came back, and they absolutely had radiation contamination,
which equaled 25% of what a human being absorbed in one year
of life. So nothing that would kill them, but they gotta be a
little East. They gotta go easy. Because you know, it is
cumulative. So they can't go, you know, they couldn't go back.
But it's not like people came back and we're, you know,
throwing up and dying and turning green, which, of course,
is what we want you to think this is part of the Hiroshima
syndrome.
Is it actually real that the soldiers aboard the USS Ronald
Reagan, off the coast of Japan when when Fukushima melted down,
did not melt down ly were exposed
to high levels of radiation? Well, it's a shocking story. And
I first learned shocking story about last March 11, which was
the second anniversary of the Fukushima catastrophe beginning
in 2011. Two that they had kept this very for two years, two of
the sailors came to a big gathering in New York City to
mark the anniversary. And they were suffering health effects
from their service onboard the Reagan,
which could have been food poisoning from what it sounds
like.
Turns out that the Reagan was anchored just a mile or two off
of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power of 15 miles during the
worst of the radioactivity releases, which was news to me.
I mean, I follow this as closely as I can. Two years into this
thing I find out that the Reagan was that close to these
catastrophic radioactivity releases. So the crew on board
that ship 5000 Plus sailors were in harm's way for several long
days on end, not worn by TEPCO not worn by the Japanese
government not worn by the United States government, which
had radiation detecting planes flying all over northeastern
Japan.
I wonder when they when they send the Navy to hostile places,
do they warn them and say you could get killed? Is that like a
warning every single morning every day seems
to indicate that and I love how Pete may have to sign a
nondisclosure or one of these indemnification documents
I love how people you know that now say to me Oh, now you
believe the military all of a sudden now I just do some
research and basic research. And I just I just pick up the I
don't know like things like the court filing you know, little
things like that just so I can get be educated and not believe
bull crap, alternative media. Even Snopes has said this is
false. And I don't believe Snopes but yeah, that's that's
most people believe. Snopes. Snopes. They know Snopes is his
realm.
So you would think that an aircraft carrier in this day of
dirty bombs and you know that that
day of dirty bombs Tom Hartman Oh, I'm sorry. Did I miss a
dirty bomb? John?
I'm wondering what what dirty bombs is he talking about this
these days of dirty
dirty bombs. Yeah. You know, this is this is psychological
warfare people
it would have radiation detectors on the on the on the
ship. Well, some of the first news that was really disturbing
in the first days of Fukushima Daiichi was that the aircraft
carrier detected radioactivity on the helicopters coming back,
landing onboard the flight deck. And so one of the sailors who's
now stepped forward in a big way was servicing those helicopters.
That's not true. The people who stepped forward did not serve as
those helicopters and this is this is true. They had radiation
exposure and the levels were very low. There's
another these sailors that I met in New York, his name is Maurice
Ennis. He set off the radiation monitors below deck down from
being on the flight deck. So there were lots of indications
that there was something seriously wrong but they stayed
in this contamination.
There were no contamination plume, let's just listen to this
for days on end So they were getting the radioactive gases
which they were radioactive gases eating in. They were
getting the fallout.
So Fallout John there was fallout from some explosion in
the atmosphere that was Fallout and see the things people have
so little understanding of this material that even smart people
who listen to our show buy into this there isn't there's no
evidence and you don't know what you're talking I'm not an expert
but I have gone to experts who have no skin in the game other
than their expertise. Atomic rod Adams is one he points me to
these other guys. And they're all operators have been around
and they're angry. They're angry because they know that even if
there is a lot of these guys actually believe in global
warming bullcrap. To which bothers me, but they're saying,
listen, global warming, if this is real, this is the solution.
But you're being scared. And let's just listen to thumb buy
ins funny now
are being exposed that way. What I didn't realise until this
latest news about the relaunch of this lawsuit against Tokyo
Electric
is not a relaunch. This is not a it's not a beta. It's not a
startup. It's refiling after he got thrown out of court,
even the water that the sailors were drinking was from their
desalination system. So they were getting the seawater that
was contaminated with radioactivity. It was being
desalinated
This is literally in like the EU Times article about this to
desalination systems couldn't clear out the radioactive they
all got sick. They're all drinking poisoned water by the
ship
and they were drinking it. They were cooking with it, they were
showering with it. But those salivation processes don't take
out the radioactivity, right? Because salt is a fairly large
molecule. It's it's sodium and chloride. And if you've got just
an individual atom as opposed to a molecule or a particle of the
desalination is I gotta take it out. I need special filters. You
can't get tritium out of water period not as industrial is
small it is. It's helium. Yeah, it's hydrogen. They're having to
do active hydrogen. You need special filtering to get out the
cesium to get out the strontium none of that was taking place so
that ingestion pathway combined with all the others could
account for some of these health effects. Were saying.
Oh my god, anyway, look at the Hiroshima or Hiroshima Hiroshima
syndrome, and you'll understand much better what what radiation
means? How? How CPMs really translate into becquerels.
This is really sorry there's a that was the most I would I
won't give you a clip of the day because it's not a no single
clip but that was was actually a depressing
one Why would did you find that a depressing moment? Well, you
know, Psalm isn't, you know, is not you know, he's some you
think he's a little sceptical. But if, but he is also a hook
line and sinker guy. When it comes to these these kind you
think a guy like that would actually try to think a little
bit instead of just knee jerk his way right through this kind
of thing, because it's on the checklist of you know, liberal
progressive that that nukes are bad. And, you know, we have to
do what we have to do to get rid of him and and so why are nukes
bad? Well, I don't really know why they're bad. But this guy
says something that sounds bad to me. So I'm gonna nod my head
and, and act like, you know, like a bobblehead doll during
the whole thing. And it's just, it's just something pathetic
about it. And it just, I mean, this is the alternative media.
Yes. This is the prod This is what what disappoints me that
people cannot see that they're being played so expertly. And
alternative media and that would include bloggers in this by the
way in this comment. I think they are more susceptible. Yes.
Oh, yeah. To the real pros out there who know how to spin stuff
and get their point across and and use the old who they won't
talk about this in the mainstream media tricks. The
foreign they get a brand new stuff out there. And there's a
lot of people that watch that guy, and you know, democracy now
and the rest of those.
The funny thing the funny thing to me is that the same people
who accused the alternative media of being saturated by
money from the Koch brothers and the FOSS, quote unquote, fossil
rich conservative media.
No, no, no, no blogs. Well, okay. But let's just focus on
blogs. They're saying the oil and gas industry which would be
Koch brothers to that they they are, they fund the alternative
media to propagate these lies about global warming. But when
you actually can point out that here is funding coming from gas
and oil companies, to these organisations, these nonprofits
who then go out and propagate anti nuclear stories based upon
the literally made up stories Everyone's all in. It's like,
Yeah, but you know, I saw the chart and you've seen you've
seen this map right with the little swirls of red and orange
going from Japan towards California. You've seen this
map. It's all over the
web. Yeah, that phoney map, you've talked about it before.
That's what Snopes
actually debunked. They said, this is not this is a map that
was from something else. And nothing. There was tsunami wave
map, there wasn't even about anything. And by the way,
300,000 people became homeless because of the actual disaster,
which was the tsunami. There are five nuclear reactors in Japan
begging to go back online. Begging, please put us back
online, we can save the economy, we can save Japan. Let us go
back online. Let us start providing power instead of
importing gas from our chi America. whose agenda is it?
back slash rant. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so I'm just I'm a little
I can see our own chat room.
The chat room is is usually the chat room is very disappointing
when it comes to this stuff. Yeah. Well, luckily, the chat
room was a minority.
Yeah, was a Yeah, was it? Well, let's see.
I have a few things being discussed. You want to do this?
The little, little kind of a subtle thing that I picked up on
it, which is kind of leads into my how we do our show. Okay.
This one, there's a there's a series on PBS and I watch it
every so often, because it's very interesting. It's about
it's called pioneers of television. And they talk about,
you know, they go back and they analyse Sid Caesar or Milton
Berle and how these, you know, the changes that took place. In
this case, it was about variety shows, and they went from one to
the other. They have the $64,000 question in this series, not in
the I think so. Yeah. When I show
era when I studied communications and broadcasting,
which I did for an entire 90 days a college. That was one of
the main things was how that changed. Lying and fakeness. on
televisions. Yeah,
it changed it changed it chosen the much more professional.
That's amateurish. Yes, exactly. I mean, you don't have a ham
actor like Charles Van Doren pretending to be thinking when
he knew the answer in advance. This was about I think, probably
about the late 60s through the 70s, about how the influences of
sponsors had a huge impact. And he starts off with this clip
about the Smothers Brothers. And the Smothers Brothers had this
tremendous comedy show. That was ribbing the government about the
Vietnam War the whole time. They were put on the air.
What's the name of the troop?
The Smothers Brothers so
this Mother's I'm sorry, they were rubbing the government
about the Vietnam War.
Oh constantly.
I'm too young for this I really wasn't in
I used to watch the shows fantastic show is very funny
that did they had their their regular act to two brothers you
know, bickering, but it was a lot of war jokes, like lots of
war jokes, and but CBS had put them on the air for one reason.
They figure these guys are little all little AlTi little
alternative that might pull some audience away from the number
one show on the network's which was Bonanza, which was just
killing them, right. So the Smothers Brothers Come on, and
they do a lot of very, by today's standards, lame, edgy
material. And they ended up dethrone ng Bonanza because the
public is eating this stuff up. And here's the way it plays out.
By the end of 1967, the brothers had knocked Bonanza out of its
top spot. But their network wasn't happy. And neither was
President Johnson, a personal friend of CBS President Bill
Paley in 1969, despite good ratings, the smothers were
summarily killed.
Well, that's still going on today with Bill Gates just says,
Just take that show off the air and change it. It's just not the
president anymore. The money the money goes direct.
It's just different. So we have a couple more examples of this
in the window. The other two are discussing because they involve
race.
Can I just interject one moment there? Yeah, the way that was
presented? I can do you mind if I just play that again? Play it
because the music? Oh, yeah. And the cadence and it because the
minute it goes to the sadness, the music change listened
of 1967 the brothers had knocked Bonanza out of its top spot. But
their network wasn't happy. And neither was President Johnson. A
personal friend of CBS President Bill Paley in 1960s, you
know that I can just hear in 60 or 70 years from now, even
though the best podcast in the universe was killing it across
the podcast nation, the President was not happy. And
after three months, Korean Dvorak, whenever to be heard
from it,
you left out two key words. The President was not happy Oh, and
called Pay Pal.
He called. He called. He called Pierre Omidyar. Chairman of
PayPal, within two months Korean Dvorak would never heard from
again.
That's the way I see it.
Even Bitcoin could not help the men because their rent could not
be paid with the cryptocurrency.
So the next group became race oriented. The early shows that
you wouldn't put a black guy on because Heaven forbid some that
that person that's living off kindling wood in Alabama, with
stop watching. And so again, it was but again, this was the
sponsors. So play the clip to hear the Pat Boone clip.
Variety hosts like Pat Boone, we're always looking for the
best possible guest stars, many of whom were African American.
And when Boone booked Harry Belafonte, his sponsor said, No.
I said, What are you talking about? He's the biggest
entertainer in the world. Yeah, but he said, you know, he's sort
of politically active and a lot of folks down south. And I said,
you're telling me, I gotta go back to Harry Belafonte and say,
No, thanks. Because you're a communist.
Because the funny thing is, of course, Pat Boone is extremely
conservative and he wanted to book book Harry Belafonte on his
show, because he knew people wanted to see him. But that's
but sponsors, the Overlord said no, and that was the end of it.
And of course, now we have part three where they actually tried
to give a black guy a show, and they couldn't get anyone to
because
this the Arsenio Hall Show,
went cold did get his own Variety Show on NBC. But no
sponsor could be found. In an unusual move, NBC then paid all
production costs itself, to give Cole a positive start. He did
find an audience. But no sponsor had the courage to step forward.
And the Nat King Cole show was cancelled.
Yeah, but this is this is our culture. This is the legacy.
This is the history of broadcast in America. This is
and now you see what you have what you get. And the reason
that we survive on this show, which is counter counter
intuitive to everything being done on broadcasting, because we
don't kowtow to sponsors. We don't have to deal with it. We
do have to have support from our listeners, supporters,
producers, what we call them and and every time I watched this,
this this history of broadcasting showed these these
pioneers of broadcasting series. This is a common theme. That is
just you. That's why the media, the news media, especially on
television, is so milquetoast, they won't talk about anything,
everything's politically correct, or they're cowed by the
advertisers. The system is really upside down in the early
days of most media. They would intimidate the advertisers and
make them go along with the programme, but that turned
around sometime in the 40s or 50s. And the advertisers are
running everything.
Let me go meta on you. So here is PBS, mind you PBS, who of
course, have commercial breaks now every 15 minutes. He was
PBS, too chickenshit to say which sponsor they know which
sponsor it was Why did you say the sponsor who was sponsoring
the show? What was the name of the company? They won't tell you
that's how sad it is that the historical document about this
racism, xenophobia and, and commercial hijacking of public
property such as the airwaves It can't even tell you who the
perpetrators were for fear
outstanding Great catch you're absolutely right I should have
got that myself. That is brings it up beyond pathetic
let's find let's find out who was the sponsor and find out who
well we know who nobody supported Nat King Cole so
there's no way to there's nobody to point the finger at except
all advertised. Boom bad boom we can find out and I think it's
pretty common knowledge about this model.
Here we go. Oh, let me just go to this is an easy one. Sponsors
okay. Oh, my goodness. See the USA in your Chevrolet. General
Motors sponsored the patent wouldn't show.
You go. Oh, there you have it.
Do you think that General Motors is an important advertiser these
days? Or PBS?
Yes, I think I'm sure you know, they've now that you mentioned
I'm sure somebody actually pulled that from
the show. It was probably in some way. Some schlub had
written it in and it got pulled right out. Yeah.
Now, we're not doing that. That's a different company now.
Well, you know, it's a different company. Now. It's not the same
general motors that do they wouldn't do that now. Hmm.
Interesting. Let
me see who the Smothers Brothers sponsors were. Even though that
was a little different. Yeah, that
was different, because that was the network. But there you go.
But this is
exactly what it is. This is exactly what it is. Well, isn't
that funny? When you think about that? Yeah, I
don't know how funny it is. But it's just it's a sorry, state of
affairs that we have to live within. Anyway. So
that's why we're miles ahead. You all who participate in
producing this programme are part of something that is new,
something that is fresh, something that is revolutionary,
it's so awesome. We'll never get talked about until we're dead.
No awards, no, nothing. I just want a little plaque somewhere.
That's all I want. I'm gonna show
my mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that, oh, yeah, that'd be fun
Well, we, we have the support of our producers, and that's
probably as valuable as any meaningless plaque. And we can
also give ourselves an award Can
I can I can I, before we start, I just this is this is another
example of support from our we get support in many many ways.
And this is actually also a question at the same time, sir
Scott of the armoury, who was of course donated to the to the
show and as a night he lives here in Austin and he said I've
got a package the other day and actually he was sending me no
because he wants to know if you want your package at the at the
the PIO box is Adam I finally got a chance No,
no, because if they take these issues what have my post office
does, I got a I got a big box, but if something comes in and
they might remotely fit into the box, they jam it into the box
and I can't get it out.
Oh, and then you have to use a broom or something.
No, it's ridiculous at the push it back onto the floor inside
the post office. That's ridiculous. And then if it's too
big, then they have to wait and it's a little post office with a
long line. Oh no, it's so Python. I'll get your email me
I'll get your real
alright. So he sent him a box beautiful note with pictures
tonnes of pictures on this note. I finally got a chance to go
hunting for the first time in five years since I moved back to
AWS from Chicago. I took a very nice dough the weekend before
Christmas. And he so he is dressing this dough at his house
and it's hung up in the garage. It says the neighbours were
surprisingly tolerant if you actually came over and watched
for a while I'm including a quart of my signature venison
and black bean chilli for you and Mickey to enjoy on a cold
Texas January night. This court does not require refrigeration
has been pressure canned according to the FDA
recommendations, so feel free to save for later enjoyment. It's
shelf stable for at least 24 months. I now have a full set of
venison Shanks, so another dinner party may be an order
soon. And he sends me this picture and this is what I love
this. One of the many reasons but I love my wife so much.
Because this picture shows the deers hung up by the neck. It's
sad slit open, but it also shows I mean it shows he has trays of
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Now, did we? Because it's always possible.
I was talking here we go. More than 15 minutes in the show.
Once again, I'll talk about my wife. I have a saying today. Can
you imagine? If someone proposed this show somewhere else? He
would have not seriously it would have five writers, you
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researchers fact checkers, and all we'd have to do is show up
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You just have but it'd be done by other people. When the
writers like you said we could dad live much of the show and
have that prompt to keep us on track. Yeah, yeah, we could. We
could try. It'd be good. Probably the budget about it.
It's about a $1.5 million budget for sure. We got it.
I miss more than that. With five writers.
Writers work for no N lessons. Network show the writers don't
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6565. Hey, um, let me there's a couple of things that he did
talk about, you know, the the intelligence community has the
ice on the record Tumblr site. This was the transparency the
President asked them to do. And so what they did is they created
a Tumblr site, apparently, that's more of the people. And
so I of course, subscribe to the feed. And this shows up in my
freedom controller aggregator and so the main things that came
through January 3 was the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court approves government's application to
renew telephony metadata programme. So whatever Snowden
said, doesn't adhere because the secret court, which only hears
one side of the argument has said no, no, this is this is all
good. And what's interesting here
when you get you kind of missing the point here when like this
is, okay, we got to court in certain session now, what would
you like? We'd like to continue the programme. Okay. Any
objections?
Yeah, good to go. Well, what I like Jackson's no objections. I
like the language. They're using the one several prior occasions,
the Director of National Intelligence, that's Clapper has
declassified information about the telephony metadata
collection programme under the business records, blah, blah.
And in order to provide the public a more thorough and
balanced understanding of the programme, they're disclosing
the fact that the secret court did what you just did. So thank
you for being so transparent. Funny enough. At the end of this
little note, it says the administration is undertaking a
declassification review of this most most recent court order. So
we won't actually be able to find out if that's exactly the
way it went or not, until they decide whether they can
declassify it. You know, the actual document that has been
declassified? Now as a bonus to that, because they're so angry
about how this went down. They sent a letter to the New York
Times. That is Robert S. Litt. General Counsel for counsel for
the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So this
is clappers lawyer to the editor Edward Snowden whistleblower
editorial January 2 repeats the allegation that James R Clapper
Jr. That sounds like Does that sound like Ray Parker Jr? who
did Ghostbusters. James R. Clapper Jr, the Director of
National Intelligence, quote unquote lied to Congress about
the collection of bulk telephony metadata as a witness to the
relevant events and a participant in them. I know that
allegation is not true. So they're really pissed about
this. And I'm going to this is a short note is interesting.
Senator Ron Wyden asked about collection of information on
American clip, I'm gonna play the clip in a minute, but let's
you want to play the clip first and then hear their rebuttal.
Yeah, let's play
the clip first. So people get familiarise themselves with
exactly what happened. No, no, I
think I think it's more interesting to read what they're
saying first, because then you listen to the clip with new
ears.
Okay, I'll you set this up. You you I'll let you go. Go. Senator
Ron Wyden asked about collection of information on Americans
during a lengthy and wide ranging hearing on an entirely
different subject, while his staff provided the question the
day before. Now, remember, this is something we always talk
about. This is all theatre. It's all bull crap. All the question.
It's scripted. While his staff provided the questions the day
before, Mr. Clapper had not seen it. He didn't read the script.
Essentially, he thought he could ad lib. As a result, as Mr.
Clapper has explained, he was surprised by the question and
focused his mind on the collection of the content of
Americans communications. In that context, his answer was and
is accurate. When we pointed out Mr. clappers mistake to him, he
was surprised and distressed. I spoke with a staffer for Senator
Wyden several days later and told him that although Mr.
Clapper recognised that his testimony was inaccurate, it
could not be correctly publicly. It could not be corrected
publicly because the programme involved was classified. This
incident shows the difficulty of discussing classified
information in an unclassified setting and the danger of
inferring a person's state of mind from extemporaneous answers
given under pressure. Wow, best legal defence ever.
That's a good one.
You cannot understand the extemporaneous state of my mind
when I'm answering under pressure. I did not drop that
weed cookie. So summarising the clapper, the clapper, as his
name from now on, the clapper didn't read the script, his
staff. His assistants failed him did not prepare him for this
question. And therefore, he was confused about the answer
because he thought he was getting the scripted question.
Do you collect people's the content of people's
communications? So now let's listen to the clip in with this
reference. I thank you. And just for you, Director Clapper again
on the surveillance front, and I hope we can do this and just a
yes or no answer because I know Senator Feinstein wants to move
on. And by the way, if he had read the script, all he would
have had to say was no, because he was asking for a yes or no
answer. Last summer, the NSA Director was at a conference.
And he was asked a question about the NSA surveillance of
Americans. He replied, and I quote here, the story that we
have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people
is completely false. The reason I'm asking the question is
having served on the committee now for a dozen years. I don't
really know what a dossier is in this context. So what I wanted
to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the
question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on
millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? No sir. It does
not
not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently
perhaps collect but not not wittingly.
You can even hear why didn't go cocksucker didn't read the
script. So with this now in mind, I can hear now why didn't
surprise He is he's like, what? And I can hear the clapper is
unfit for office? What's he doing Sudoko puzzles or
something that just was he just looking at this next question?
Just whatever. What's your take?
I can see that interpretation. And I can understand. I think
you're right. on all counts. He didn't he took this too
casually, I mean, the right answer if you had the script,
because you're given the questions in advance, and the
rest of it is bullcrap. would be would be to obfuscate the answer
by saying something like, well, this is classified, or I'd have
to get back to as far as I know, there's all these weasel words
you can use. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. But
which is the classic right? Because then you're done. You're
good. You're good to go. If you start anything off with I'm not
sure what you mean, but and instead he actually just out
blatantly lied. Yeah, I don't see how the Lord can see it any
other way. It's just a blatant lie. What an idiot.
He's unfit for office as far as I'm concerned, unfit.
Unlike great, what was he doing? He knew he was coming up to the
thing. He had the question for this big white and was going to
softball them with what colour is your what's your favourite
colour?
And this is and this guy, this clapper? I remember when he was
on, I think was NBC. And there was a number of people write
that. And this was at the London but that somewhere somewhere. It
was something that happened a lot it was at the liquid bombing
plot and they had found the guys or whatever, and everyone knew
it. Everyone had heard this.
Everyone had the briefing the morning briefing.
Like what? What I didn't have why. Okay, so I have a couple I
have a couple of things that I need to this is all of course
about I think this is the story of my lifetime. I really enjoy
all of the shenanigans around Snowden and everything that's
happening. And there's been there's a couple of new players
on the scene that I want to introduce some older ones who
are back but first this there is something going on when we have
and this is the the main narrative right now. And I think
I know why but a New York Times and The Guardian both now not
only classifying Edward Snowden as a whistleblower, but also
calling for amnesty now when both not both of these now so
New York Times is gotta be you know, of course his intelligence
the I'm just gonna say that CIA and MI six is the guardian. So
there's
reasons but yeah, this is part of what we believe to be and
there's
reasons why they want this to happen. And there's there's you
know, there's a lot of information and perhaps
misinformation or disinformation out there about having more
documents and I have a clip on that I think the the media
really really wants Snowden and I can understand from a general
media perspective mean the guy even his by now the glasses the
long head the shitty haircut you know, it's it's a brand brand
Snowden is alive you can do this guy like like the Obama Hope and
Change posters. You'll recognise him He's highly right
what do you say media you're not talking about media you're
talking about me? Capital N five ABC NBC this guy is a gold mine
we can get some make some money with him the news? Yes, he can
finally make some money we can put them on the air we
can put a movie movie movie I know there's guys in Russia
right guys
want to do a story. We got a book publisher. Yeah, lots of
money to spend on that
brand. Snowden is alive. And well. And this is great because
brand Snowden detracts from the true egregious behaviour that is
going on with the American industry known as the internet
services industry. So when we focus on Snowden and and an
amnesty, we're not focusing on secret lawsuits that Google
tries to have a put under seal about their Gmail service, which
I have a copy of that. And I can tell you that legally if Google
is reading an email that I send to you and you're on Gmail that
is that is illegal. Right but this lawsuit about this very
thing right here. You can you can they can read anything you
put on there that but I don't have they don't have my right to
read my email that I send to you. So anyway, so that all this
stuff. We don't want you talking about that. Don't be looking at
that. Please be looking at Crazy backdoors on iPhones and please
be distracted by Edward Snowden. Which by the way, there's a
little discrepancy which I wanted to ask you about. This
prison programme. Everywhere I look, every news article can
keep stating without and The Guardian, of course, is the
number one I had unbelievable. The Guardian says they keep
stating that the the prism programme was discontinued in
2011. I don't understand how they can say that when the
document we were shown, says that Apple got onboard in 2012,
after Steve died, to how can it be discontinued in 2011. And it
was a bush programme, of course, yet there there the
documentation we see says that it was still alive and that
Apple joined in 2012. So that's a that's the big problem. As far
as I'm concerned. That's like we talked about last show. That
slide is the is the problem. So now we have
been trying to keep us away from looking at that slide anymore. i
Oh, if you have a no, it's gone, it's gone. There's something
there is some date specific thing they have to use for some
guys. It's probably internal. We don't know why he's got
something to do with somebody's salary. It could have something
to do with the budget. You know, they some lies in the budget
where they got money. So it's something internal to the
agency, that doesn't really mean anything to us. I think props
and so the end, but this this this glaring problem with the
2012 mentioned on this slide, is they just hope that goes away I
get and they're just assumes nobody's going to ask that
question. I don't know. But it I don't think it's anything that
we need to we can assume that that programme is still in play.
All that I'm concerned about and this is what I've always talked
about is you know, the free mirrors and trinkets that
everyone takes and accepts and and you know bully on you the
you're being you're being sold to law enforcement agencies
intelligence is the same data that that is being sold to
advertisers and sponsors and anything and and look at stuff
you and you get in crappy service for that too. Doesn't
matter. That's the real surveillance that's happening
now. New players although this player has been around, she's
back Jessalyn Radek she was on I think this might have been CNN
or MSNBC Jessalyn Radek is apparently the lawyer for
Snowden which I'm a little confused because lon his dad has
a lawyer and there's the what's the the civil civil liberties
group, they've got a lawyer, but now she's the lawyer and Jesslyn
Radek is interesting because she is part of that a the outfit
that gave Snowden the candlestick award. This is the
Hold on a second. I'll get it here. I can't find it for him. I
don't know why I'm spacing. Oh, maybe it's over here home.
Anyway, uh, she's with the Government Accountability
Project gap. And she's on and she so she's, she was a
whistleblower herself. She blew the whistle, quote, unquote, on
the FBI for inappropriately interrogating Ling, I think is
the first American Taliban. You'll recall that story.
Oh, that guy. That was his local does to you. Yes. We're in
count. Yeah.
Yeah. So he was interrogated illegally, as an American, you
have rights. And if and if you have representation, you have a
lawyer. The FBI can't interrogate you without talking
to your lawyer. And your lawyer can say no. And so they they did
that anyway. And she blew the whistle on that. And now she's
part of the Government Accountability Project, which we
are suspicious about. But they went to Russia. They gave
Snowden a candlestick. The Sam Adams Award is literally is a
candlestick. Thanks. I'm in Russia, Moscow. I got a
candlestick. What are we gonna do with this? And she is now a
spokesperson. And she's in the thing is you look at her. She's
kind of cute. But she talks like she's had a stroke. Maybe she
has, but wow. And her mouth goes all crazy left and right. It's
fascinating to watch. So I think she's good medium material. And
joining
us now is Jessalyn. Radar. She is legal adviser to Edward
Snowden and Jessalyn just to get us started here, because a lot
of people are curious how Mr. Snowden is doing. When is the
last time you spoke with Edward Snowden. And how is he doing
these days in Russia?
We speak regularly by encryption, and he's doing
great. He's a
John. So we talk regularly through encryption. We got to
make sure we did it.
You got it. Yep. People are
doing very well.
I'm honoured. And I guess you've probably seen in The New York
Times that in The Guardian the last couple of days that those
newspapers have called for some sort of plea bargain or clemency
for Edward Snowden. Would he be agreeable to coming back to the
United States admitting some guilt in exchange for some
leniency?
Now listen carefully to her answer.
I can't get into plea bargain negotiations really on the air
but he certainly would love to come back.
I can't get into negotiations but let me start the
negotiations. This is us. Setting the United
States if the conditions were right, and I think some sort of
pardon or amnesty would be appropriate. And you know,
again, if there were conditions attached to that amnesty, that's
not something I can speculate about, really. But he would
definitely be amenable under conditions such as a pardon, or
amnesty. Am I crazy? Or did she just lay out conditions? She
says, oh, that's
what she did. She's trying to get in on this deal coming back.
No one has contacted his attorneys. And the Justice
Department certainly knows how to get a hold of us if it would
like to talk about these issues, which I would be glad to run by
my client. I can't say for sure. Right now. I don't think he's
committed any crime. And I don't think he should think he's been
punished quite enough. Already by beings. We have stripped of
his statehood and basically exiled for the past six months,
I think he certainly has paid a very high price already. Oh, in
this one time, at bandcamp. I stuck a flute.
Sorry, I couldn't resist that. She just sounded so much like
it. Now, the truth comes out about the 1.7 million documents.
Remember, this is his lawyer. He she represents him. She says her
legal adviser one time lawyer the next.
Yeah, what is she? She claims to be? And she
says he's got lawyers. And then she says she's his lawyer. And
then she says she's a legal adviser. But she
talks to him through encryption every day, and he's doing fine.
So
isn't that hard to believe, by the way? Well,
again, this is all a big show. And this these are the players
on the scene. Let's talk about the documents.
And what other information does he have that that might be of
interest to the United States government? Because one thing
that we heard from a security official Over at the National
Security Agency, pretty top official over there, said that
he would be interested in some sort of amnesty for Edward
Snowden in exchange for his data. Does he have some of this
still in his possession? Would he be open to providing
everything that he has back to the federal government in
exchange for some sort of deal?
As far as I know, he no longer possesses any data and has not
had possession of any data since he left Hong Kong for Russia. So
that would not really pertain. However, I do think he has other
things to bring to bear in the conversation that the government
might want to initiate and they know how to find myself and Ben
Weisner of the ACLU if they want to start a conversation about
amnesty or pardon
Well, there you go. He's got no chips he's got no chips. All
right, go
all right, this woman says there's something fishy about
her and the here's the deal, the way I see it was being set up.
The government wants to get over the CIA because they promised if
they're if he's a CIA guy, like we initially assumed it just set
this thing up, they got to get him back in because that's part
of the deal. So they got to extract him you got to bring him
back into the country somehow. So they create this bogus story
about all these extra documents that he's got. And they're
holding this bogus story because that's going to be the the
negotiating angle because he's got all these things and he can
turn it back over and everything's fine and it gets
some sort of clemency and all the rest of it works out she
blows the lid off she's actually calls them out on this she's on
the other side of this she's on the whatever this other side is
not going to let that fake story get much traction. Yeah, I
agree. I agree. Oh, she is there
just screw up. Yeah, any possibility because she's
working for the NSA. Yeah,
there you go. Good one. And that's in wouldn't you know,
keep your you keep your friends close your enemies closer. No
wonder they were over there. And notice that, that Sarah
Robinson, the hottie they she got kicked out. He's in Berlin
now. Living with Laura Poitras, and Apple bomb or whatever.
Right. So that's a sandwich I don't want to say
it's not a sandwich it's I you know, I could be lewd here by
the way. I don't really know where I'm gonna go with. Yeah,
I don't know if we want to, but from you. I can have I can take
it.
Okay, the two girls are together. He's sitting in the
corner. Watching. That's it. That's that's your whole shtick
go any further than that. You can. You can figure it out for
us. Your whole story. Seems like that. If you see a group like
that in Berkeley as the first thing you think, Oh, brother.
And then we have a new dude, although he's been around, but
we have a new puppet from WikiLeaks. Of course, Julian
Assange played out no one's done. We don't need the guy
anymore. And Julian was fantastic. He also brand Assange
was great. We need a new one. This guy is perfect right down
to the spelling of his name. Kristen prednisone and he's from
Iceland and listen you spell his name k r i s t i n n, which is
completely unnecessary if for any linguistic purposes, there's
there's no reason to have an extraneous N in your name.
That's just showing off. I don't know what it is ridiculous. And
then his last name for Rasmussen it we're missing vowels. H
RAFNS. S O n. And he is the guy he looks great. This could be
new brand wiki leaks have you googled the guy yet?
I'm gonna do that right now.
Kristen for aphorism. He's, he's my age, which kind of scares me
because like, holy crap, this guy looks old and beat up. He's
52. He lived older and I am not much and he was on CNN with a
battling with JEFFREY TOOBIN. And it's irrelevant, because
what will you'll hear Toobin do is so tube and starts off by
saying, Hey, you're calling me Hitler, or Nazis or whatever.
And this guy shoots back. And then two guns gonna wind up by
doing exactly what he is trained to do to say. We're not talking
about anything but Snowden. And that is exactly the message. We
need to talk about nothing else but Snowden not about spying,
not about Silicon Valley, not about clapper lying only about
Snowden. And Toobin receives an award from me for being so
bluntly honest, even though he's completely full of crap. Here's
the new wiki guy Christian from leftism,
it was simply saying that it is it is a well established
principle that an individual has a moral obligation even to break
the law when he serves on a higher ideals. And those higher
deals that that Edward Snowden is trying to protect are the
principles of the United States Constitution with suggested the
gentleman just before me it does not care very much about he has
also suggested that national security interest has been had
been harmed, that has been claimed by the administration
without any proof being proven that that happened. What Edward
Snowden has also revealed is the simple fact that the Director of
National Intelligence James Clapper lied to Congress last
spring in April, he committed a felony, why aren't we discussing
the possibility of him getting a plea deal for Jeffrey, what do
you think of that? I mean, clean on that issue?
Well, you know, what, I am certainly not going to defend
clappers testimony before Congress. It sure seemed like a
lie to me. But it has nothing to do with whether Snowden
committed a crime or not, you know, lots of crimes get
prosecuted, lots of crimes don't. But we're here to discuss
Snowden. And I think nothing that I've read in the newspaper
in the past day or the past month suggests anything other
than this is someone who committed Major Crimes against
the United States. And you know, if he can work out a plea
bargain, fine. I mean, that's that's how many cases are
resolved. But the idea that he deserves clemency when we don't
know where this stuff is, who has it, what they've done with
it is just preposterous.
So I think this new wiki guy is good. I think he could be a new
player on the scene. He's got the crazy accent, kind of the
Nordic weird head. And he could be the new guy.
Okay. I'm looking at him pictures. He looks like a you
know, he looks like an Icelander, he's got the you
know, everything is just slightly,
it could be the new view. So the final thing I'll say on this,
what was that
guy? What was his other guy, this guy? Was the stooge for the
government working for what CNN,
JEFFREY TOOBIN he's been around forever. Oh, two bit. Is that
guy tubing? Yeah. Hey, tubing. So let me just read from this,
this filing. And it's in the show notes if you're interested.
580 dot na shownotes.com administrative motion to
conditionally file under seal portions of plaintiffs
consolidated individual and class action complaint. This was
Google's attempt to conceal the class action lawsuit filed
against them. And, and I want to just give you briefly the
history so you can watch for this in the future. Yeah. When
was Gmail, Gmail like 2004 2004 2005? And that came
out? I don't remember. And I remember every single day oh my
god, that giving you a free gigabyte of everyone freaked the
tech press was just everyone get Gmail. Gmail is great.
Everyone's gonna have Gmail. And everyone bought into this and it
was propagated by your technology media and press and
nary Was anyone even thinking about what was really happening
and now you're locked in. And the lawsuit that is before us
before Yeah, so the lawsuit that's before us here which is
what they tried to put under seal and is not under seal is a
class action lawsuit and I will definitely participate that If I
send email from Adam mccurry.com, which is from my
own server, and I send it to someone at@gmail.com, Google
legally does not have the right to read that correspondence.
They have the right to read whatever that person who I'm
sending it to has, but not what I sent to them legally. And
certainly not to build a profile on me.
Oh, this is good. I can get on this too, because I use these.
Well,
I think we probably have I don't know, though. If you if you
ever, it's probably and I'm not a lawyer. But if you've ever
signed up for Gmail, you may be that and you may be I may, I may
have screwed myself. You may be and I of course have signed up
for Gmail. So you you may be done. Like, I don't know, that
may last forever. I
have no standing for the suit. Possibly service. Right. And
actually, they could fix that with anyone who signed up by
even if it's not in there, they can change it, because all these
terms of service always
change at any minute. Yeah, yeah. Post Facto. Yep. But
anyway, I don't use that anymore. There's also a class
action lawsuit against Facebook, for monitoring of users private
messages. Yeah. And it's, this is lawyer stuff. It's always
unfortunate, you know, because it's hard for Pete for people to
understand, it's impossible for the mainstream media to actually
communicate it to people, or whatever. And the lawyers, of
course, take all the money. And the real policy is rarely change
to the real dangers are rarely exposed. Not my problem. We just
try to, we just try to help out.
As best we can, when we try and I want to remind people I don't
have give some fuel puff pieces and stuff left to finish with.
We could finish the show on an upbeat if you're depressed us
with the thing earlier. With a real news segment, done for a
while, we
certainly have not see you have oh, you have to, I have to I'm
sure we want to do two or
I think I can do to this short. And I think we'd have to begin
though with a real news intro clip.
I'm gonna do all that I'd
like you to do. You're gonna play that thing. And then you're
just gonna run these are important news stories. Let's
start with the about story. And that never ends. And you're
gonna get to it, this is what's going on. But most people are
paying more attention to this than all this crap that we
talked about. And this is what really counts and it's actually
will make you discussed it.
And now back to real.
And let's end by talking about the biggest baby news. This is
my favourite baby of all, baby George is even George Boyle.
He's a big baby. You know what they're doing their way and I
think that makes us love the royal family even more. I
mean, they started, you know, with those first pictures, and
those were taken by Kate Middleton's father, so they're
doing things so differently. Oh, totally. They're really
rewriting the royal baby and how to raise a kid. And of course
they have their help, but they really want to be as involved as
they can. All right, Jen, thank you so much. Joining me now to
talk style our very own style producer Anthony Ramos. Hello
and style expert the Wiese row. Good to see you both. Let's get
to it because I love a break down list. We're starting with
best dress Star of the Year Louise Who's yours? Taylor
Swift.
We've done enough red carpets now and you see how Brian not
only I mean, she's got the body of a supermodel but she's just
always wearing bright colour, which I love. Look at this red
gown at the CMA is so stunning, but then equally she'll bring
out her in a rock chick and do a super short or drop outs on the
waist here something sparkly and what I love about Taylor is that
she's an amazing role model for young women.
Ah okay,
I get to I get to go back all right. From the F Russia
department a
Russian President Vladimir Putin has visited Sochi ahead of the
upcoming 2014 Winter Olympics taking part in an all star ice
hockey match. He played his Bella Russian counterpart
Alexander Lukashenko before touring various Olympic
buildings. President Putin has also relaxed a controversial ban
he'd imposed on all public protests at next month's games,
people now be able to hold demonstrations in a designated
area of the Black Sea resort, but only if they get special
permission first.
Okay, a couple things about this one. How awesome is the
President of Russia? Because he plays a full ice hockey match.
He's like beatin people up and body checking and bra is just
great. Really cool.
And then when didn't double lets me
know it was him. And then you have no, this is definitely no
double. She doesn't. And then of course As the BBC says, well,
you're they'll be able to protest but only in designated
areas. Yeah, like the United States freedom of speech zones.
Yes, exactly the
same, same thing.
But they do they bring this out. They brought it up though,
right? That is exactly the same. Let me
think. No, they didn't. Oh, and then this and I had missed this
because of course, I didn't watch se cup. With the final one
hour interview of Glenn Beck on CNN Gee, I missed the show.
Oh, that's a shame. But this clip was pointed out to me.
And this anyone who thinks the Blaze is all great and Glenn
Beck is Glenn Beck is a dummy
and the LG we're talking about Duck Dynasty. Do you know what
happened last week in Russia, one of their biggest stars on
television said that homosexuals should be put into the ovens
alive. I didn't think you could make the Holocaust worse. But
he's like, why the gas chamber that seems a little too humane.
Let's put them alive in the ovens. I said on the air this
week, I will stand with GLAAD. I will stand with any. Anybody who
will stand up and say That's crazy. That's dangerous. That's
hetero fascism. That's what that is white.
Hetero fascism. So we've gone from the Russian kill the gay
laws to hetero fascism. And Glenn Beck is all in on the lie.
It's unbelievable. I will stand with GLAAD employees. We should
have the white paper out. beginning of this week, I'm
reviewing the fourth and final chapter in the appendix that our
gay Crusader Brian has done. And it'll be something that you can
just email the people after they don't believe you. And they
probably won't read it.
But at least at least you'll there has to be an executive
summary. No, no, no.
Believe me. I've hammered on this. We have the executive
summary. And it basically you say the same thing three times.
And we make sure that the show was promoted properly and
credited in this document, obviously. Yes, Brian is he's a
real journalist and a lawyer and you know, he's, he's well known
in the LGBTQ Qi community.
Yeah, everything will be ready. And finally get out to the
public if it gets wide distribution right after the
Olympics are
over and Yeah, exactly. And we'll have lots of interview
requests.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we'll have tonnes of interview requests and it'd be
great. Maybe maybe not. Okay, so what I didn't get to I didn't
get to the Chinese. I didn't get to Turkey. I can't believe I
didn't get to Turkey.
Yet Turkey coming up on Thursday. Okay, Turkey on
Thursday, Turkey Thursday turkey, turkey. Thursday turkey.
South Sudan. Which it's all China by the way. Mali. China's
again in Mali. My goodness. And and of course, the funniest
thing. Apparently, having Kim Jong on execute his uncle wasn't
good enough. Now we have to leak the story that he had his uncle
ripped to shreds by 120 Starve dogs.
Yes. I love this one. At what point? what point does the
public say what is this bullcrap? Guy like the guy was
like was it promised? We know what he looks like? But if I
think if it was done in the olden days, it would did we'd
have pictures of them as some drooling food character. Yeah.
It's fantastic. It was the most Yeah, it was fantastic. I just
shook my head when I heard that one. Gave me a rise for sure.
All right. Well, I've got some stuff to put on Thursday. Okay,
we had
Yeah, we I mean, we've we've done another three hours. This
is not this is too much. Too much. are
talking about off topic stuff, I think.
No, what do you mean? Like, oh, it's gonna say what you said was
fodder.
No, I think people like it. That's the problem. Going three
hours, I think what they'd like is, I don't know how we can
tighten it up.
I don't see how we can you're the one that always wants to
tighten it up. But even you don't know how to do it. No, I
don't know how to do and I don't want to go to three and a half
because that's where this
is headed. No, no, that's none of that. No, we're gonna we're
back to two and a half. Thursday. It's 45.
You gotta get ease off this. You can't do it. You can't go cold
turkey. Have a heart stop hard. Stop
hearts. We have a hard stop everybody. I love meetings that
start like, I have a hard stop at 1229 So I have to be out.
Sorry, guys. I'm really sorry about your Megan. Like, don't
come into my damn meeting. We'll have a meeting about that day
coming up Marines and six here in Austin, Texas. I in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Silicon Valley where I am My machine didn't reboot once
again, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll
be back on Thursday with Turkey Thursday right here. The best
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