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Hey, dude, did you see my
cookie? I'm sure at one cookie.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, January 5 2013. Time for

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your chemo nation media
assassination episode 580. This

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is no agenda, reading hr 3304.
So you don't have to from FEMA

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Region six here. The travel
sites hide up Austin, Texas in

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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where I'm here to see if

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Windows 8.1 reboots in two
hours. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.

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Do you really have to
necessarily antagonise everyone

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with this window stuff of yours?

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Much worse than antagonising? I
was just,

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it starts up so much email.

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No, I've gotten one not one
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You In fact, it was I've saved
the thread between you and I

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forget who it was now. Oh,

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he's the guy. He's the Linux
guy.

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No, he No. He's not the Linux
guy. He's the guy. No, he's

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telling you that. No, no, it's
the guy who's like, you could

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have downloaded the regular
version. I don't want to get

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into it anymore. But you went
back and forth with him like on

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an email yelling thread? Yes.

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I must have been just sleep.
Remember this? Yes.

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In fact, it was surprising
because you rarely ever do that.

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Ah, and then it ended up it he
ended up by saying no, no, no,

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no, that was about something
Mel's? No, it wasn't and then he

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ended up by saying that was
about old screen. Skype. Yes. On

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Windows eight.

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Yeah, I don't care about that.
That's not what I'm talking

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about. I'm talking about the
thread. Windows 8.1 is going to

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reboot in two hours.

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Okay, fine. You know, you know,
the reason why you don't like

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why Windows eight is not working
for you. It's meant to be used

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with a touchscreen. This is this
is why you're not understanding

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the big full screen stuff. This
is for people who want to touch

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their screen is it is it is

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touched by screen. pretty
pictures. Touch base screen.

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Which guy is that? That's the
guy that Windows eight user.

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Wait a minute. Let me get this
straight. Hold on. Let me get

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this straight. Oh, and now
ladies and gentlemen, John C.

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Dvorak. With no windows eight
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Oh, I wouldn't touch by screen.
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right. That's our windows eight
user brought to you by John C.

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Dvorak. And let me start off by
giving you props everyone

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noticed this of course no sooner
had us headed here's how it

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went. I think I had a clip from
Colorado and of course you know

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the kids are all getting high
school and this of course is the

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problem with the kids in
Colorado it's all about the the

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war on weed and you immediately
said oh, don't worry. This is

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all part of the campaign next
there'll be some kid will eat

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some weed cookie and be all
stoned and everything and you

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nailed it.

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Yeah, I know I did it in such a
short luckily I did it a few

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times today when remembers our
predictions because usually

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we're way out.

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This one Yeah, in fact, yeah,
that's right. Usually we're

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months and months ahead of the
bullcrap that starts tonight.

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You just nailed it. You miss it
by three years on a kid's age

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though I have to say that was
disappointing. Disappointing

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just do I think

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is a bit much they went over the
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I have I have the Associated
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that. I don't know if you have a
report about it till I played

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the AP report because it kind of
funny. Yeah.

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ER doctors at this hospital in
Longmont, Colorado say a two

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year old girl tested positive
for THC marijuana's active

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ingredient. The child's mom
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saying the girl was lethargic.
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did not get the marijuana from
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marijuana at her house. We have
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any marijuana.

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Let me ask you a question. If if
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police will you bring your kid
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think my kid is lethargic. And
within this very short timespan,

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they've searched your house for
a legal substance. Yeah, this is

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not true.

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No, the whole story is bogus.
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trying to, to pull it apart to
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and I think I know who planted
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Oh, you got me on that. But
let's listen to a little more of

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this bullcrap.

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So apparently this didn't happen
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story the reporting is the
toddler was outside two years

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old and picked up a cookie ate
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seen it.

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Right there was a cookie, dope
cookie. Incidentally, laying in

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the yard, I guess dropped by
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Hey, hey, dude, did you see my
cookie? I'm sure one cookie.

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Dude, Where's My cookie man? Did
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The mom tells police her
daughter found a cookie outside

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their apartment and ate it. We
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breathing. paediatrics
instructor Dr. George Wong

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authored a study about children
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2009, the number of Colorado
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accidentally eating pot laced
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to what from what 1,000,001

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child's not gonna know the
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product without marijuana and
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And she says the spike is
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Colorado's drug law. Police.

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I think there it is, we're gonna
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highlights the hazards of having
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children.

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It's gonna be an intricate
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hospitalisation comes the same
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in Colorado became legal. I
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night at the hospital that she's
expected to be okay. Padma Nanda

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Rama Associated Press. Thank
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Rama Rama Associated Press.
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what a great report from AP
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Yeah. Oh yeah. And you know the
numbers been going up and

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skyrocket from whatever to
something so from zipped to zap.

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Smart Colorado is the
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they've been mentioned in every
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able to give away. You have
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citizen run nonprofit 501 C four
organisation of course, I cannot

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find anything about them because
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2013. So we won't find any
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organisation until at least
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make a note I you know, I love
looking at form 990s. But of

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course a volunteer led
organisation no financial stake

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or motive, except they have
appeared to hire veteran

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lobbyists to Mike freely have
Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck,

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and Sandra Hagen, Solon from
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communications firm Ste two. But
now we just, you know, just a

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little, little volunteer thing
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professional setup.

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Yeah. And they planted that
story to scare the public and of

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course, the news media
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up in San Francisco and
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like the parents that they are.
It's pathetic. Yeah.

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Yeah, it is incredibly pathetic.

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I mean, kids, but there's more.
Kids are eating Drano as I

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mentioned the newsletter, more
like they're more likely to get

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killed by some household crap.
Soap, soap and they are from

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anything?

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Yeah. How about just water,
fluoride in your water.

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protecting us from marijuana
about us our history, our

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mission? What is your mission?
Our mission is a nonpartisan

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blabla. You already read this?
It's just not a mission. It's a

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statement of mission. What is
the mission? What is the I think

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the health and safety of
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mission.

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Smart Colorado nonpartisan
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organisation grassroots Yes,
bass strutture focused on

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putting the health and safety of
corrugated for that. And if you

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go to

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drugs involved in this, there's
a drug front. Thank you. Thank

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you could be Big Pharma is
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if you go to meet our leadership
team, no results found. They

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have no leadership. They have no
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just it was uncanny to me how
this this of course is in some

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ways a call back to the Iraqi
kids thrown out of the

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incubators onto the floor. Yes.
Somebody pointed that out. Yeah,

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exactly. Which turned turned out
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daughter of a crisis management
PR firm and it was completely

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made up. Yeah, and these things
do happen. They've been you

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know, things get made up for
specific reasons. But this was

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so transparent and it's after
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just know the script is like,
Oh, this is so obvious what's

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going to happen next.

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Yeah, no, the script is
apparently they can't come up

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with anything new and why should
they? The public laughs this

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stuff up? Like there's no
tomorrow it works. Yeah. But

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givers is amazing. Hey, there's
to jerk off doing a podcast that

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a busted us 100 was listenership
less than 10 million who cares,

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right? Whatever. Yeah, but yeah,
yeah, exactly.

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My well real stories which we I
keep passing on this one.

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Federal law judge rules keep
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unconstitutional.

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Oh meaning we can live it up.

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You can have more bigamy. I
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Do we have a clip on this? Now?
Just throw it. Oh, that's a

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bummer. I wanted a clip.

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I would like to have a clip but
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no PR company behind it. There's
no pro bigamy lobbying group

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that you don't know that. Well,
anyway. I'm a little mad, a

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little mad. They pulled a fast
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But they're always gonna pull
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lot of them. Yeah, well, just
feels really obvious.

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Kind of you recall maybe four
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Defence Authorization Act of
2014. It's this isn't a

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recurring theme every year. Bo
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the House going through the
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pretty much 803 pages, I think
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said there was a you know, there
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space stuff in there. That was
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I've been tracking it for a
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see anything like the sections
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all of the detention stuff that
we saw in the 2012 2013 National

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Defence Authorization Act. So I
let it slip a little bit. And on

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the 26th when we were still in
the midst of oh, I don't know,

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what was the world talking
about? Oh, yeah. The Duck

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Dynasty guy. That's, that's
really what all the news

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was the key that we had me we
have to bear down when that

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happens. Yeah,

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exactly. And I, we looked at it
as a way to cover up target,

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which all helped. Certainly, it
certainly did not hurt. The fact

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that they switched out the
entire bill for a different one.

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And that's what the President
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in Hawaii. To always

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remember the year before that,
when they slipped the whole bill

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in it. We accidentally caught it
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Well, they certainly had the
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the in the dark of night on the
31st. That's what happened last

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time. This time, it was the day
after Christmas. But it was a

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whole different bill. It was
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The old bill, the bill, reading
the presented bill. Yes.

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And then a whole new bill was
presented and voted on and I

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knew nothing. There was nothing
on C span nothing about it was

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it was one of them. It was like
last time where they slipped it

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in and some of it was somebody's
talking about brushfire

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rush they state it's a whole
different document this telling

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you

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to do whatever you want, if
you're slipping it in. So I got

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the

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new document and holy crap.
Really? Oh, yes, really. So it's

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the National Defence
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Year 2014. The only sections
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there's a lot as always, and of
course, I didn't have time to

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get through everything. But I
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and the 1070 ones, which I just
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because it is important. And
trust me, no one's going to

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report on this. So you might as
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Everything's marked up in the
show notes, of course. So Cyber

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Command is all of the cyber
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shows up in these new document
it was not in the one I was

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looking at is Richard Clarke
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lot of openings for stuff that
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private industry and even other
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I'll tell you about that. So the
Secretary defence shall take

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such actions as considered
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United States Cyber Command
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infrastructure and equipment,
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and other types of networks to
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Command to conduct wartime
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military cyber operations. This
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they're taking real warfare
language where you blow people's

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limbs off and bash their heads
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rubble. And using that in a
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and it's just not the same
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sound like it's exactly the same
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guess, our cyber forces to
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operations, which means it's not
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defensive move. And I'm not so
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they have no clue what they're
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what the what the result of real
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think it's very dangerous. But
anyway, it's all okay. Go ahead

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and be offensive and do whatever
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that, by the way, pretty much
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there's two Democrats who didn't
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seven Republicans, though,
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on that, because they probably
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Now whatever is fine.

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The word probably is not. They
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They didn't read it. There you
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there will be a designated for
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policy, a principal cyber
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Kandra. Welcome back.

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Oh, God. So we'll have to see
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principal cyber advisor shall be
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supervision of cyber activities
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defence of the United States, in
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networks, including oversight of
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considerations,

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you Richard Clark,

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it's going to be someone like
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job. He's the one who created
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behind what you just read

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it. But this is bad. You can't
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Who's going to be the principal
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yeah, I think you can go ahead
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that's Richard Clark, wow. So
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cyber expert or gal will
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and perspective of appropriate
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really a coming together of the
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community's not the CIA, they're
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about NSA and Department of
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department, part of the
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interesting. He will also select
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leader will work on the training
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essentially your cyber advisor.
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ciphered? Advisor, yeah, it's
it's cyber advisor. What else

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can we do?

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Outside the principal cyber
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I am the principal cyber advisor
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roles of the reserve components
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that concept of employment for
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required. So now we can have
reserves being I mean, we're

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moving towards full scale cyber
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this is how we're the ones
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about it. So essentially,
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bring down our own grid. Who
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that's part there's something in
this act about that as two

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incomes. Now, here's where it
got a little scary to me in

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consultation with the Secretary
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consideration of ways to ensure
that the governors of several

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states through the Council of
governors now that's that

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organisation that is HUD funded
with $100 million. That brought

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us Common Core as an example. So
the insured the governors of the

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Council of governors as
appropriate, have an opportunity

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to provide the secretary of
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Homeland Security and
independent valuation of state

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cyber capabilities, and state
cyber needs that cannot be

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fulfilled through the private
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now to have your local law
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cyber capabilities. And that's
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and saying, do whatever you do
never ever do RM star, hey,

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section 936, cyber outreach and
threat awareness for small

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business. These will be
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Department of Defence to assist
small business to one understand

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the gravity and scope of cyber
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thing. We could get in on that
money. We need to do something

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to develop a plan to protect
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three, develop a plan to protect
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businesses. This I feel is

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this is this is so the one of
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obviously, is the movie
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the intellectual Hollywood is
have a has a piece of this.

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Yeah. Yeah. And their networks,
and apparently the government's

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going to use taxpayer dollars to
protect their networks. Which,

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which I think I think you're
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streaming or Hollywood stuff. It
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the no agenda of doing business
as no agenda is gonna get get

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any offers from the government
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don't think that's going to
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938 of the National Defence
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supervision of the acquisition
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start off. Yes, Vivek is behind
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modification and approval of
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solutions for data analysis and
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defence agencies, including
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enterprise wide discovery and
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cloud computing databases.
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defence and armed forces and
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systems. Which by itself, just
having that in a cloud situation

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as far as I'm concerned, and
brisk integration of plans with

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enterprise wide plans with the
armed forces. Okay, we already

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did that one. Integration with
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the Secretary shall coordinate
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are integrated with the
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Information Technology
Enterprise, which is i see i te

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eyesight in order to achieve
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sharing, and other efficiencies.
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this is where this is where I
got a little little Heebie

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Jeebies control of the
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And just bring that back to you.
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cyber weapons. So there's

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an anti proliferation clause in
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mean, you can interpret this any
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would be viruses and Trojans, I
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problem I have. So yeah, I

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have a problem with that, too.
It's not good that we have a

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proliferation. It's like there.
Oh, there was 10. Yesterday.

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Now, there's 20. There's no no,
no. Yeah. So

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I've Yes, you can't do copy
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what it's about interagency
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policy, the President will
establish an interagency process

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to provide for the establishment
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control the proliferation of
cyber weapons, which could be a

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ping, I don't know and what is
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pings, things must be bad.

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The command ping is not
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system. Through unilateral
uncooperative law enforcement

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activities, financial means
diplomatic engagement and such

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other means as the President
considers appropriate. So they

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could if they if you're being
accused of creating a cyber

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weapon, which is very broad and
interpretation, they can cut off

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your all your money, I guess
financial means and cooperative

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law enforcement can come and get
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Industry purchases as possible.
No agenda shows a cyber weapon.

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We aren't

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we are definitely a
psychological cyber weapon for

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sure. industry participation,
the president shall include to

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the extent practical,
practicable, private industry

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participation in the process
established under this

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subsection. So there's your
fascistic government who is

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going to have private industry
cooperate, to thwart you from

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using or proliferating cyber
weapons, which is not really

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defined objectives to identify
the intelligence, law

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enforcement, financial sanctions
tools that can and should be

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used to suppress the trade in
cyber tools and infrastructure

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that are or can be used for
criminal terrorist or military

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activities while preserving the
ability of governments and the

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private sector to use such tools
for legitimate purposes of self

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defence. Okay, this is a key
clause, because this is this is

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where we all lose. This is like
saying, well, torrents

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BitTorrent can be used for
distributing Linux. That's

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exactly what this is, and it's
not going to work. They will

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take away all this is taking
away our tools, tools.

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Well, now this this is
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it back to Hollywood, again,
Hollywood had nothing but

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agonising trouble over during
the net and they learned a

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lesson during the Napster period
when part of the argument I

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think it was done by boys. The
lawyer was that if something

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could be used for In other
words, you have a product that

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can be used to do illegal
downloads. But if there if

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there's a single legal use for
it, then it must remain in place

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and mute. In other words, you
can't do anything you can't take

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it out of the out of the picture
because there's a legitimate use

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and that's the case with with
BitTorrent, and the torrent

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distribution of shows like ours.
Right? So they're after that

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they're they yesterday with a
targeting this particular thing,

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and then they've slipped it in
this bill. Hollywood literally

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has slipped gotten involved with
the National Defence

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Authorization Act? There's no
doubt about it. I'm with

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you. This is this is also a call
to same section to establish a

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statement of principles to
control the proliferation of

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cyber weapons, including
principles for controlling the

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proliferation of cyber weapons
that can lead to expanded

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cooperation and engagement with
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very

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national why Yeah. Well, they
just have that studio in China.

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Oh, yes. Wow. Giant billion
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Anyway, onward. Now add in
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Miscellaneous authorities and
limitations. easily overlooked

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by any journalist in the
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miscellaneous authorities found
it can't be much.

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Yeah, that's the first place I'd
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Section 1071 enhancement of
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government to analyse captured
records. Now this is very

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interesting. Oh,

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wait a minute.

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Yeah, I knew you'd like it. I
know you'd like but now, you'll

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recall the advice from the
President's Blue Ribbon Panel,

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which included all these
lawyers, not really. The

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recommendation regarding the end
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which by the way, the secret
FISA court has reauthorized. Oh

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secret the secret Gulag court
has reauthorized. The

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recommendation was to to not
have the NSA store this but have

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a either the have a separate
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store all of this for us. Well,
this is what solidifies this and

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takes it 10 steps further. So
there's a new section here in

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the United States Code for the
conflict records Research

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Centre. Conflict records
Research Centre, the secretary

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of defence may establish a
centre to be known as the

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conflict records Research
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centre shall be the following to
establish a digital research

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database, including transactions
and to facilitate research and

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analysis of records captured
from countries, organisations

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and individuals now, or once
hostile to the United States

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with rigid adherence to academic
freedom and integrity. Did you

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just burped

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espionage?

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00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,580
Yeah, well, I have some of the
definitions too. But first,

457
00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:45,060
number two, consistent with the
protection of national security

458
00:27:45,060 --> 00:27:48,930
information, personally
identifiable information, and

459
00:27:48,930 --> 00:27:52,290
intelligence sources and methods
to make a significant portion of

460
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:55,890
these records available to
researchers as quickly and

461
00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:59,670
responsibly as possible, while
taking into account the

462
00:27:59,670 --> 00:28:03,300
integrity of the academic
process and risks to innocence

463
00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:08,670
or third parties. Now, the way I
read this, is they're talking

464
00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:11,910
about building a huge database
that everything goes into and

465
00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:15,630
anybody who has the right access
can jump in and research

466
00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:16,710
records.

467
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,750
Yeah, actual records exactly
what it is. Now, let's go over

468
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:23,850
all the billing and financial

469
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:26,640
walkway. Okay, now, here's where
I

470
00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:30,120
know they had them as a
customer, Bill get on

471
00:28:31,230 --> 00:28:33,510
support from other United States
government departments or

472
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:38,070
agencies. Anyone may may help
out with this database. And then

473
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:40,650
there's a whole thing here about
acceptance of gifts and

474
00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:44,070
donations. The Secretary of
Defence may accept from any

475
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:49,170
source, any gift or donation for
purposes of defraying the costs

476
00:28:49,170 --> 00:28:52,980
or enhancing the operations of
the centre. What

477
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,590
the sources spate of minutes,
just break that down for a

478
00:28:58,590 --> 00:29:00,600
second, let me give you the
details and they'll break it

479
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,730
down. The sources specified in
this paragraph are the

480
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:08,820
government of a state or
political subdivision of a state

481
00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:12,960
the government of a foreign
country, a foundation or other

482
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,750
charitable organisation
including a foundation or

483
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:18,600
charitable organisation that is
organised or operates under the

484
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,470
laws of a foreign country or any
source in the private sector of

485
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:29,520
the United States or a foreign
country they may give gifts of

486
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,850
money of property of equipment,
anything they want to help out.

487
00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:38,850
funds transferred to are
accepted by the Secretary

488
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:42,240
defence under the section of
extortion scheme. funds

489
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120
transferred to or accepted by
the Secretary of Defence under

490
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,540
this section shall be credited
to appropriations available to

491
00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:50,820
the Department of Defence for
the centre and shall be

492
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:53,280
available for the same purposes
and shall be subject to the same

493
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:59,370
conditions and limitations. As
applied now Definitions The term

494
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,910
cap record record. Remember,
this is the captured records

495
00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:06,990
Research Centre. The term
captured record means a

496
00:30:06,990 --> 00:30:13,620
document, audio file, video
file, or other material captured

497
00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:19,560
during combat operations from
countries, organisations or

498
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:26,940
individuals now, or once hostile
to the United States. The term

499
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:32,220
gift or donation means any gift
or donation of funds material,

500
00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:36,600
including research materials,
real or personal property or

501
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,170
services, including lecture
services, services and Faculty

502
00:30:40,170 --> 00:30:49,500
Services. This is the definitive
goulard database. And it's kind

503
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:53,670
of like you, if you contribute
to the database, you can get a

504
00:30:53,670 --> 00:30:57,030
tax credit. That's the way I'm
seeing it. Hey, here's some

505
00:30:57,030 --> 00:31:00,660
research materials, like put it
in there, it's worth about 1000

506
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,550
bucks, you can get a tax credit,
it's a gift.

507
00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:05,580
I think there's that element, I
think there's I think what this

508
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:10,080
is multi dimensional, whoever
put this together, really has

509
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,030
something on the ball in terms
of distorted, essentially, this

510
00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:18,210
has got to be illegal in more
ways than one. First, you

511
00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,340
redefine everything you
redefine, you know, what is

512
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:23,310
this? What is a war, cyber war.
So you're in the cyber war, you

513
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:26,910
mean a cyber war with everybody.
And so you can take all their

514
00:31:26,910 --> 00:31:30,360
stuff, if you can get into their
machines through the whatever

515
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,460
backdoors are available, or
Windows eight, or anything that

516
00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:38,940
you know, has access by the
government. And according to the

517
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:41,880
prism slide, you know,
everybody's wide open for that.

518
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,450
So we can take all this stuff.
And so we do that, and

519
00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:48,480
especially all these cloud guys
who went to the cloud, you know,

520
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,500
that clouds stuff is done so
over. And then the people that

521
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,860
you can't fully define as
enemies, because you're gonna

522
00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:59,370
get in trouble. If you say,
well, France is you can't do it.

523
00:31:59,370 --> 00:32:02,520
You can't say France or Great
Britain or enemies. But you can

524
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:04,830
you can request them to donate,

525
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:09,150
could you? Could you donate your
records, please can you give,

526
00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:13,500
just give us all your stuff as a
donation. And there's no tax

527
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:15,630
write off for them. But for
people who within the country,

528
00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:18,510
for example, there'll be some
guys that maybe took the advice

529
00:32:18,510 --> 00:32:21,660
of keeping everything in house
and and the government wants

530
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:24,990
their stuff, to where you can
have our stuff? Well, we can get

531
00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:27,090
it, you know, we can get through
one of these

532
00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:29,970
letters, the other guys, the
only the other guys will happily

533
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:30,600
donate

534
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320
the other guys. Well, there's
also the you know, we have these

535
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,380
national security letters we can
lay on here we can find ways

536
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:39,420
there may be you know, I've said
this before, and I'll say it

537
00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:45,090
again, there may be national
security letter. templates that

538
00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:48,120
we don't know anything about.
Yeah, like the one don't ask for

539
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,990
specific records. It could be
like, we want all your financial

540
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:55,680
documents. Yeah. It could. We
don't know that. That doesn't

541
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,260
exist, because the national
security letter is secret, and

542
00:32:58,350 --> 00:33:01,140
the courts can't look at it. And
no one's done anything about

543
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:03,810
him. The fact that they have,
they allow them in the first

544
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:06,810
place, music can be abused, and
they're being abused. Because

545
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,610
there's 1000s and 1000s. And

546
00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:11,040
the FBI can just write them they
don't even need a jet.

547
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:14,970
Right? Some guy in his office I
got one here. So he's writing

548
00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:18,180
them. So so this could go on. So
you can go to a company and say

549
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,550
we just just just give us just
you here's a choice, we're gonna

550
00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:22,710
give you one of these letters
that you might want to look at

551
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:26,880
it just secretly. Or you can
just give us all your stuff that

552
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,690
will give you a tax write off.
Yes. Go Yeah, I don't want

553
00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:32,880
anyone to give you all our
stuff. No, no, no, no, you give

554
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,170
us all your stuff. Stuff.

555
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:38,100
Can you turn down your your your
just over modulating a little on

556
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,950
nine screaming? Oh, no, it's
okay. Then just back off Back

557
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:41,520
off, man.

558
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,090
Tell me that get an extra fist
in there. Yeah,

559
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,140
they had Jamya fist in

560
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:51,210
there. So, yeah, no, this is
bad. Well, it's it's the fact

561
00:33:51,210 --> 00:33:55,560
that it's even getting through
so easily. Which I think was

562
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,710
part of that little commentary
by Ellsberg. You know, he says

563
00:33:58,710 --> 00:34:00,720
you know, they respect the
American public because they

564
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,320
have to lie to them. But then
follow the American public just

565
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:07,710
just lab a lot of this stuff is
just done behind closed doors is

566
00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:12,060
snuck in our Congress is totally
off the wall corrupt.

567
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:18,690
This is also a failure a failure
of epic proportion of your news

568
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:22,410
media. This is a failure by the
New York Times by the Washington

569
00:34:22,410 --> 00:34:27,030
Post by The Guardian all the
people who are you know, the the

570
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:31,170
heroes of morality and justice
it's full of crap that they're

571
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,070
they're all all they can do is
talk about should Snowden have a

572
00:34:35,070 --> 00:34:38,550
amnesty, which is another thing
that's being set up? Some for

573
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:42,840
some reason, but there was no
and and when I say mainstream,

574
00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:44,790
of course, there's good
reporting. Of course, there's

575
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:46,470
Pete and I have a couple of
links in the show notes. Of

576
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:50,820
course, people see this and
write something about it,

577
00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:54,900
although most of the writing as
is the press release on

578
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:58,920
whitehouse.gov focuses your
attention towards section 1034

579
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,640
and 1035 which is about
Guantanamo Bay and the transfer

580
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,000
of prisoners. And of course, the
mainstream journalists may

581
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,490
because, Oh, they're so
underpaid, although I don't

582
00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:12,270
think they're more underpaid
than I am. And this the so weary

583
00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:15,090
from all that they're doing
that, oh, well I'll just report

584
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:17,430
on the Guantanamo Bay stuff, I
have no time to look at the

585
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:20,460
rest. Whatever the reason,
they're doing you a disservice,

586
00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:23,400
it's a disservice. This is very
important stuff our audience,

587
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,000
our producers understand this
stuff. They understand what it

588
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,180
means to have a database and
what it means to donate

589
00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:33,390
something, and particularly if
it's donating records and get a

590
00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:37,530
tax write off, which is spelled
out explicitly. And you just

591
00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:39,930
don't just just make sure your
nonprofit you're good to go. I

592
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:45,300
mean, this is, and this is
fascism. This is fascism. They

593
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:49,170
should call this a national
fascism Authorization Act. The

594
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:50,760
NFAA we need

595
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,470
a new word. There is no new word
fast. Fascism has a bad

596
00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:56,370
reputation.

597
00:35:57,510 --> 00:36:01,020
Yeah, there's a reason for the
bad reputation. It winds up with

598
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:06,450
people getting killed. It
doesn't end well. But I guess we

599
00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:11,160
can never learn can we? Oh, no,
just carry on. Same old same

600
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,460
old. So I found this all very
disturbing. And

601
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,610
I would think so especially from
your we I'm glad you found it

602
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:20,520
because we could have gotten
another year before we knew they

603
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,580
pull the switch a roo on us.
This is bait and switch.

604
00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:28,560
It is bait and switch it was
again signed. Quietly the

605
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,930
President just kind of you know,
stopped from getting the shaved

606
00:36:30,930 --> 00:36:35,940
ice and signed it. It was passed
by the majority of both houses.

607
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:42,540
And really only seven nays I
think and nine nays seven

608
00:36:42,810 --> 00:36:48,210
Republican two Democrats in
total. Very, very sad.

609
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,100
Those were we should

610
00:36:50,549 --> 00:36:54,539
I have it I have it to make guys
list. That's maybe something

611
00:36:54,539 --> 00:37:01,679
more for the for the the show
notes. Let me see. I might have

612
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,649
it here. Let's see if I can get
it quickly. I definitely have

613
00:37:04,649 --> 00:37:12,899
the list. It's it's on one of
the links. Habit, it said. I

614
00:37:12,899 --> 00:37:16,109
don't have it here. I do have
links to the original that I was

615
00:37:16,109 --> 00:37:19,769
reading and how that one was
just quickly, quickly swapped

616
00:37:19,769 --> 00:37:22,649
out. There's there's of course
no change in the indefinite

617
00:37:22,649 --> 00:37:27,269
detention. Which people were
kind of waiting for. There'll be

618
00:37:27,269 --> 00:37:30,299
some conversation about that.
But I think the the whole topic

619
00:37:30,299 --> 00:37:36,029
of, of this of the Cyber
Command, and the weapons of

620
00:37:36,029 --> 00:37:40,379
cyber war and the proliferation
act of cyber weaponry in the

621
00:37:40,379 --> 00:37:45,149
cyber tools. I mean, my God, I
can use any machine to wage

622
00:37:45,149 --> 00:37:48,659
cyber war. What are you going to
do? It's like maybe that maybe

623
00:37:48,659 --> 00:37:50,999
that's the whole point. Maybe
lock it all down? Give everyone

624
00:37:50,999 --> 00:37:54,989
a fucking tablet and an app.
Here's your computing experience

625
00:37:54,989 --> 00:37:55,589
slave

626
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,430
to notelets and an app

627
00:37:59,850 --> 00:38:03,630
and a virtual keyboard, enjoy.
Oh, no, it was that's maybe

628
00:38:03,630 --> 00:38:04,680
that's the plan? I don't know.

629
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:09,780
Well, they can't that's a plan
that can't be implemented. But

630
00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:13,440
there's something the fact that
they had to sneak this through

631
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,130
as a bait and switch at the dead
of night. During Christmas, of

632
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:20,370
course, is the giveaway as
usual. When these things are all

633
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,670
done, because nobody's around,
they're all on vacation. And

634
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:26,400
they still are, in fact, I would
think in the show wasn't going

635
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,570
to be this exciting. Because
everyone's gone. There's just

636
00:38:30,570 --> 00:38:34,710
nothing on C span except TV. And
it's funny.

637
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:37,470
It's funny, because I was
talking with with Mickey and

638
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:40,320
Mickey, I'm like, you know,
maybe next year, maybe that'll

639
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,860
be the first year we just take
off the last two weeks of the

640
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:47,370
year. Nothing happens. All the
PR agencies are close. It's, you

641
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:50,400
know, we need a rest sometimes
just to clear out the brain. And

642
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,550
then I see this I'm like,
scratch that conversation.

643
00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:57,420
No, I think we're better off
taking a break, like in March or

644
00:38:57,420 --> 00:39:00,150
sometimes. Yeah, it looks like
it's accidental. We

645
00:39:00,150 --> 00:39:04,440
should just take a break during
elections. Because we know how

646
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,470
all that works is that's
uninteresting. We need the back

647
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,230
the backroom stuff the stuff
that really happens in the dead

648
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:13,080
of night when everyone's
partying. It was very

649
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,760
disturbing. Very sad. Just one
more funny thing about this and

650
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,580
maybe some money to be made,
though, don't you? Thanks, John.

651
00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:20,760
There's

652
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:24,600
look I got an idea, a money
making idea for you. And I

653
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:31,020
thought about this long and
hard. Today, the Podcast Awards

654
00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:34,590
are going to be announced. And
Sergeant Fred actually, you

655
00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:38,460
know, he's a sergeant Fred is
out there in Vegas. And he says,

656
00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:41,460
Can I can I represent the show
for the awards and said to your

657
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:45,180
producer of course you by
definition, you represent the

658
00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:49,500
show. You've never met Sergeant
Fred was a hoot. I've never met

659
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:53,070
Sergeant Fred. Imagine a Vietnam
veteran decked out with with all

660
00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:58,710
his vet stuff. Okay. And say in
vivo crystal a. That's perfect.

661
00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:01,800
That's perfect. has to do he'll
get up in the middle of a room

662
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,460
and yell that

663
00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:06,900
is fantastic. Yeah, I'm liking
exactly the

664
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:10,140
kind of guy you want repping us
out there now. But I said to

665
00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:12,570
Sergeant Fred, it said, and he
was a podcaster himself, by the

666
00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:17,040
way he does. He does a fun
podcast. I said, please have no

667
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,220
illusions, we will not win. We
don't win awards. That's not how

668
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,870
we're not in that. We're not on
on that level of media

669
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:28,890
distribution thinking we're in a
totally different stratosphere.

670
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:33,300
So we're not going to win. It's
also this our show is something

671
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:37,170
that only a select the choir
understands it and you know,

672
00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:39,150
other people just what

673
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,730
those guys are nuts now. Oh, the
conspiracy show? Well, I would

674
00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:48,420
by the way, let me just stop.
Yeah. Here's an example. You go

675
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:53,340
through this bill, you read the
bill, point by point and say

676
00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:57,720
this is what it means. Hey,
Adam, you're a conspiracy nut. I

677
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,570
heard that that tinfoil hat
moment about the National

678
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:03,660
Defence Authorization Act.

679
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:07,230
Yeah, that's nuts. That's a
conspiracy conspiracy.

680
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,390
You don't really think the
government's trying to hurt you?

681
00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:13,170
Do you? How could they keep it
quiet, someone wouldn't talk.

682
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:16,320
They don't have to talk. It's
written down.

683
00:41:16,919 --> 00:41:21,419
So you will agree that when it
comes to this form of media, we

684
00:41:21,419 --> 00:41:24,479
are kind of the Simon and
Garfunkel of podcasting. In all

685
00:41:24,479 --> 00:41:25,019
honesty.

686
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,760
Who's Simon?

687
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,170
I was thinking Macklemore. And,
and what's the other guy's name?

688
00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:35,100
I couldn't come up with anything
hip with a captain and Sunil of

689
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,510
podcasting was my first thought

690
00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:37,380
or uninhibited.

691
00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:41,640
And I was actually you inspired
me with something we were

692
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,220
talking about. I think it was on
the show about the email and

693
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:48,300
attachments and size of
attachments. I think, here's an

694
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:52,770
idea. And this is an idea we
will win awards, we will change

695
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:58,470
people, we will change the the
we can change the world with the

696
00:41:58,470 --> 00:42:01,080
following podcast. And we could
do it on the side or we could do

697
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,600
it as a part of our own show. A
podcast just about email.

698
00:42:08,490 --> 00:42:09,870
This week in email.

699
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:15,180
I thought this week an email or
maybe the email podcast was

700
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:20,340
another brilliant thought I had.
Really, but when you think about

701
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:21,480
oh, let's listen.

702
00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:24,810
Better, you better come up with
some good the topics

703
00:42:24,810 --> 00:42:29,070
you can sell servers, the
perfect spam filters appropriate

704
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:33,150
use of subject lines,
newsletters, how do you get so

705
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:36,570
unsubscribe, unsubscribe? Can
you send them a new one even

706
00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:39,690
though the unsubscribe see if
you can get them in signatures?

707
00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:45,840
PGP GPG TLS attachments. The
email is I realised this that

708
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,920
I'm not really kidding about
this email is actually the only

709
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:55,140
true decentralised protocol we
have that everybody has access

710
00:42:55,140 --> 00:43:00,810
to. And we're using it in for
only 1% of its capability. And

711
00:43:00,810 --> 00:43:05,160
because of this idea that spam
has ruined email, which is it's

712
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:08,940
untrue because if you take the
time, I've really gotten my

713
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:12,540
email under control from the
server and from the client. And

714
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,840
there is so much that can be
done interface, of course, is

715
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,740
completely stupid. It's a, you
know, that the kids are growing

716
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:23,430
up now and still have to figure
out what a little paperclip is

717
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:26,670
doing. You know, they don't
understand this anymore. What

718
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:29,760
that that's an attachment. And
why does an attachment why can't

719
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,450
it just be in a folder? Why is
the interface look like a like

720
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:37,410
it looks you know, it can be so
much better? This, this could be

721
00:43:37,410 --> 00:43:41,100
a show that could go on forever.
It is Mojo. It is full it is

722
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:42,000
beautiful.

723
00:43:42,270 --> 00:43:46,170
Yeah, well, I have a better
idea, which includes your show

724
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:50,970
about this go meta on. Okay. All
right. Here's what we need. We

725
00:43:50,970 --> 00:43:58,050
need a Kickstarter to develop a
new email programme. Yes. For

726
00:43:58,050 --> 00:44:02,730
the public at large. It covers
all the bases of what why

727
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:06,330
everything you bitched about
just now and more about what's

728
00:44:06,330 --> 00:44:09,390
wrong with email. And what's
wrong with Thunderbird. And

729
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:12,360
what's wrong with Outlook and
what's wrong with squirrel mail

730
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,450
and what's wrong with Yahoo mail
and what's wrong with Gmail can

731
00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:19,620
be all created it something a
better product can be created.

732
00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:24,360
And in the process of creating
that product, an email podcast

733
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,590
would be part of the company.

734
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,310
There you go. Good idea how much
do we think we need?

735
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:33,840
I think well to develop to just
get started on an on an email on

736
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,770
a really good email programme I
think was some good coders. And

737
00:44:37,770 --> 00:44:41,190
we need what we really need some
good programme design or some

738
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:44,490
skies that can spec well of
which would include us.

739
00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:48,600
You know, let me let me stop you
there I think yes. But I think

740
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:54,270
the Kickstarter comes out of the
show because we have no idea but

741
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:57,600
we know that it's wrong and we
know that I think the I was

742
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,180
gonna kick start a podcast and
we don't need to kick They'll

743
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:03,690
kickstart software don't know.
We don't need to kickstart the

744
00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:06,420
podcast. We just do a little
segment little jingle, someone

745
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:09,000
cuts it out and puts it in a
feed bomb podcast done don't

746
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,990
have to do anything different.

747
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:15,060
Get other cases you asked about,
I think it would take it

748
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:17,430
probably taken half a million
dollars to do it. Right.

749
00:45:17,549 --> 00:45:21,029
I think it can be done for much
less. But I think my

750
00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:23,430
initial thought was 200,000.
Because you could do it on a

751
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:28,170
shoestring. If you think about
dig was done on 1200 bucks. It's

752
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,620
you can find some guys a
superstar wants to do it. Yeah.

753
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:35,070
You're thinking you're thinking,
I guess part of the company that

754
00:45:35,070 --> 00:45:36,030
helps your thinking

755
00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:38,730
is old fashioned still. And I
don't mean that as an insult.

756
00:45:38,730 --> 00:45:43,770
But it's, you know, the thinking
is the emails, just if you

757
00:45:43,770 --> 00:45:47,730
really think about just the
protocols of IMAP, and SMTP, and

758
00:45:47,730 --> 00:45:51,900
all these things underneath the
hood, what can actually be done

759
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:54,870
with that? Because it's
decentralised, and no, no one

760
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:57,780
owns it. Yeah, I mean, there's a
whole big centralised universe

761
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:01,140
of Gmail users. But that doesn't
mean that they're stuck with

762
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:02,400
Gmail, they understand by

763
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,400
concept, which by the way, is
the target market,

764
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:09,810
of course, but we don't want to
recreate a centralised thing.

765
00:46:10,170 --> 00:46:12,840
No, no, no, I don't do either.
We do want to be able to do

766
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,670
basically, you want to be able
to create social media, using

767
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:22,140
email protocols. And you as an
individual control everything

768
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:25,560
and part of this came from
someone sent me a note and said,

769
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,350
John's blocking me I guess you
have a block list. And you

770
00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:31,740
actually have something that is
I think, within squirrel mail or

771
00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:35,370
on your your guy's server,
whatever, it actually rejects

772
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,840
the email. Yes, it literally
rejects the email, I saw the

773
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,800
SMTP logs, and it says, you
know, your porn go a bad guy.

774
00:46:43,830 --> 00:46:46,320
That's literally what the what
the server says it was very

775
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,420
funny. So you are in full
control of a social network that

776
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:56,460
has all the elements you need.
It's just the metaphor of email,

777
00:46:56,490 --> 00:47:02,130
of messaging, of mailboxes, and
in and that's what's wrong. And

778
00:47:02,130 --> 00:47:05,670
that can be fixed. And I think
that concept, once you've

779
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:07,770
figured that out, everything
else falls into place. You can

780
00:47:07,770 --> 00:47:11,070
build this this email client out
of bits and pieces in a week.

781
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:13,680
The first thing that has to be
figured out is what is the

782
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,430
thinking?

783
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Just as though you're now old
fashioned? Oh, I'm not old, I'd

784
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,940
be being such an optimist about
software. And only take a week

785
00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:24,660
boss.

786
00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:29,880
Let me ask you a very important
question before we ever continue

787
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,550
with anything which we probably
won't because we never get off

788
00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:36,750
our asked, what is the proper
spelling of email?

789
00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:40,680
Well, that depends on the style
guide you look at it could be

790
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:45,450
small e dash mail, it can be
large e dash mail, it can be

791
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,210
email all one word with a small
e. And I think technically it

792
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:56,880
should be capital E dash mail,
but it's nobody uses that.

793
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,590
Is there no official John C.
Dvorak authoritative spelling?

794
00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:07,500
I used I tend to write e small e
dash male

795
00:48:07,620 --> 00:48:09,240
male also small m.

796
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:10,200
Yeah, yeah.

797
00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:12,480
I will adhere to that.

798
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:20,730
And those people the RSS is not
the is not there's no reader.

799
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,820
There wasn't everyone jumped on
board with Google Reader. Google

800
00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:26,340
Reader said, oh, you know, this
RSS thing is annoying. Let's get

801
00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:29,280
rid of that. Oh, I know. Let's
shut down Google Reader. Don't

802
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,990
you understand? I'm just reading
chatroom. Email is truly the

803
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:37,140
thing everybody has everybody
gets it. And it's decentralised.

804
00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:41,880
So anyway, that'll be my project
for 2014, one of the many. And

805
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,010
I'll let you know when I'm ready
to do that Kickstarter with you.

806
00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:48,420
And we will go on to win many
awards with this weekend email.

807
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,230
This week, and

808
00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:56,490
you can email Hey, everybody,
welcome to This Week in email.

809
00:48:56,490 --> 00:48:59,400
I'm Adam curry and John, what
kind of email Did you receive

810
00:48:59,400 --> 00:48:59,880
this week?

811
00:49:00,689 --> 00:49:04,919
I got two notes today from
listeners. One of them said Hi,

812
00:49:04,919 --> 00:49:06,569
John. Love the show.

813
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:15,300
Hey, just back to the end the
NFAA set section 1072 Just as a

814
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:18,240
little yuck for Adams strategic
plan for the management of the

815
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,920
electromagnetic spectrum which
is new to the document in which

816
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,360
a an inventory of the uses of
the electromagnetic spectrum for

817
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,750
national security purposes and
other purposes will be evaluated

818
00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:34,140
along with an estimate of the
need for electromagnetic

819
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:37,500
spectrum and national security
and other purposes over each of

820
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:42,330
the periods specified in
subsection that I don't see much

821
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,470
else then that being about enps

822
00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:50,220
No, full, please.

823
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:51,450
What else is it for?

824
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,830
It's about the radio spectrum.
Wrap your spectrums they want to

825
00:49:55,830 --> 00:49:56,700
grab everything

826
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,810
that would be not the
electromagnetic spin spectrum. I

827
00:50:00,810 --> 00:50:02,370
think that would be a definite
yes. That's

828
00:50:02,370 --> 00:50:04,830
the electromagnetic spectrum
they want to grab radio

829
00:50:04,830 --> 00:50:11,850
frequencies. I'm not so sure.
Yes, yes. Yes. They wanted to

830
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:14,730
because they can do it using the
send data over them. So they

831
00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:17,040
this is that the clamp down on
that they will firstly want to

832
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,740
get the internet which is over
the wire, then they want to get

833
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:22,380
the wireless stuff and buy it or
they want to have access they

834
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:25,110
want to be they want to own it
all they want to own all methods

835
00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:27,300
of communication. So I can't
talk to you.

836
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,360
Okay, so All right. So if if
that is true, then this is a

837
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:36,960
much more important piece.
Because this podcast is also

838
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,550
emanated and transmitted through
electromagnetic spectrum. Yes.

839
00:50:41,580 --> 00:50:44,280
Through cable and through that
is that is

840
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,360
if your cables like an egg on
the on wire. Yeah,

841
00:50:48,510 --> 00:50:52,530
I think electromagnetic
radiation might have been more

842
00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,380
appropriate than but okay. I'm
with you.

843
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,490
Yeah, it's just want to grab
everything. Because he got to

844
00:50:59,490 --> 00:51:02,700
lock it down at some point that
you know, there we had Obama and

845
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,400
again, the internet kill switch
a couple years ago, if you

846
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,740
remember. Yeah. And you know,
and they got everyone was all

847
00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:10,800
upset about that. And so they
had this this is essentially all

848
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,190
about and this is the great
internet kill switch in the nd

849
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:16,230
AAA, they're gonna grab
everything. They're gonna grab

850
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:20,670
the electromagnetic spectrum.
Everything over the internet so

851
00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:23,100
the wires, and they just had
some point where they say, Oh,

852
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,920
my God, that country's running.
People are getting irked.

853
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,290
They're having food riots shut
it down.

854
00:51:28,770 --> 00:51:33,150
That by the way in my book is
not possible. I don't think that

855
00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:35,370
I don't think a true Kill Switch
is possible.

856
00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:40,680
I think the way things are going
it could eventually be possible

857
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:43,740
now it's it's still a lot. It's
a lot. A lot of work. It's

858
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:49,350
always some guy reminds me of I
can play clips out of order that

859
00:51:49,350 --> 00:51:53,160
I'm always reminded of. I have a
bunch of clips that I want to

860
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,980
play about the deep freeze
coming up.

861
00:51:56,010 --> 00:52:00,450
Don't we don't we own? Isn't the
the airways isn't that to the

862
00:52:00,750 --> 00:52:06,300
property of the people? I'm
sorry. What am I? What am I even

863
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:12,840
thinking? You think? I'm so
stupid? Sorry. It's the people

864
00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:17,790
here in Texas. It's actually
started in Austin, we have a

865
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:25,050
five gigahertz mesh network
running TCP IP, okay, most of

866
00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:30,210
Texas and it's done on old
Linksys routers with the WR G

867
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,600
you know, the old firmware, the
open source firmware stuff,

868
00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:37,200
okay, you load that up. And you
have to be a ham radio operator,

869
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,110
you load that stuff up, you put
up your little antenna, boom,

870
00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:42,750
you connect and this thing is
also in turn connected to the

871
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:48,270
internet. But you can connect to
other guys hardware. You can

872
00:52:48,270 --> 00:52:51,420
then connect your own Wi Fi
devices to your to your router.

873
00:52:51,420 --> 00:52:57,210
It's pretty cool. It's it's it's
the Texas work. I've tried it

874
00:52:57,210 --> 00:52:59,580
but only in experimental sense.
So I didn't I didn't have a

875
00:52:59,580 --> 00:53:02,820
fixed antenna or anything but it
works immediately. The minute

876
00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:07,050
you put your little antenna in
the air, it seeks it finds it

877
00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:09,990
connects it meshes, boom, you're
done. You get an IP address.

878
00:53:10,650 --> 00:53:14,100
It's very sweet. So there's that
there's no there is no that's

879
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:17,940
just Texas. And that's just a
little it's also just him. It's

880
00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:21,180
Texas being hostile to the
United States is what it is.

881
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,440
Well, there's that. That's okay.
First thing to do is shut that

882
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,340
thing down with a couple of

883
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:31,320
days. Yeah, well, we have within
the ham community you have the

884
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,710
the snitches. We like

885
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:36,780
tonnes of them call the

886
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:41,580
FCC and go. Yeah, he didn't ID
properly every 10 minutes.

887
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,030
That's true. He's supposed to do
his ID every 10 minutes. He

888
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:50,670
didn't do it. That's true. Yeah.
As Nazis.

889
00:53:51,540 --> 00:53:54,240
Yeah, I know. There's a bunch of
those guys. They enjoy. They're

890
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,170
on all the time. They're sitting
there usually. You know, they're

891
00:53:58,170 --> 00:53:58,920
trolls. It's

892
00:53:58,950 --> 00:54:01,470
it's like an ant chat. Internet
chat room troll. That's what

893
00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:06,090
it's the same. It's the same sad
personality type. Yeah, same

894
00:54:06,090 --> 00:54:06,390
thing.

895
00:54:06,990 --> 00:54:10,590
doing their job. Their job
school monitor. Monitor

896
00:54:10,650 --> 00:54:17,430
with the big key chain. Yeah,
but jingle pass. Were you ever a

897
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:20,610
home? Not a hall pass? Were you
ever a hall monitor John?

898
00:54:21,210 --> 00:54:25,620
We never had him when I was a
kid. Okay. And I wouldn't have

899
00:54:25,620 --> 00:54:28,080
been one if I if I had the
chance. Give me a break.

900
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,080
That did you want to go into
something about Deep Freeze?

901
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:31,740
Actually,

902
00:54:31,740 --> 00:54:34,500
we're gonna I'll let it sit in
we'll do that little while when

903
00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:36,360
we get to climate gate. Well,
let me

904
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,870
then. Thank you for your courage
and say in the morning to you

905
00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:40,860
John C. Dvorak.

906
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,170
Also in the morning all the
ships at sea boots on the ground

907
00:54:43,170 --> 00:54:45,150
feet in the air subs in the
water all the days and nights

908
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:45,870
out there.

909
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,940
Okay for the religious cadence
and in the morning to all of our

910
00:54:52,050 --> 00:54:55,080
human resources in the chat room
nogen the stream.com good to

911
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,840
have your you guys all here
also, thank you to our artists

912
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,230
I'm just about to check and see
if the generator is up, no

913
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:05,370
agenda art generator.com is
down. So we'll have to figure

914
00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:07,260
out what we do with art. But our
previous art was brought to you

915
00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:12,360
by Nick the rat. And we always
like to highlight our artists

916
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,330
for the work that they do and
give them credit. And you can

917
00:55:15,330 --> 00:55:18,030
usually find everything and no
agenda art generator.com I guess

918
00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:20,910
someone have to email us
directly. If they have art for

919
00:55:20,910 --> 00:55:22,860
today, because I don't know if
this thing is going to come back

920
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:28,050
up before the end of the show.
She called Paul I sent him a

921
00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:28,380
note.

922
00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:32,070
Okay, well, he when he gets up,
maybe he'll,

923
00:55:33,060 --> 00:55:35,400
yeah, we know he's not listening
to the show. Yeah,

924
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:42,210
apparently not. God forbid.
Yeah, I heard that stuff before.

925
00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:47,010
So the way we we do this show,
and the only way that we can do

926
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:50,190
it is by it's kind of like the
government in a way. If you

927
00:55:50,190 --> 00:55:53,820
don't get a tax credit for your
donation, you get value, actual

928
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:57,930
value that is incomparable to
anything else in the news media

929
00:55:57,930 --> 00:56:01,770
sphere. We're so good. We're not
allowed to win awards.

930
00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:05,190
What happens if we won?

931
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:07,830
It's not good, don't worry. It's
not going to happen. It will not

932
00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:08,340
happen.

933
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:11,070
I know but I was just saying
practice theoretically.

934
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:16,200
If we won, then immediately we
do a whole new imaging package.

935
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,980
We close the show. No, and it
starts off like Welcome to the

936
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:24,990
award winning no agenda podcast
number one in its category.

937
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,240
Yeah, we take out billboards.

938
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:32,130
Okay. Like have you heard the
commercials? Yeah.

939
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,100
Then we can totally screw the
producers then we're gonna take

940
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:38,100
ads. It's gonna be great. Yeah,
yeah, it's gonna work.

941
00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:44,250
Carbonite. No. So instead, we
have we have a kind of it is

942
00:56:44,250 --> 00:56:46,740
funny a an upgrade of the
traditional Hollywood model. We

943
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:50,220
have a producers producers who
provide us with funding and they

944
00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:53,010
receive credit unlike Hollywood,
you don't get to bang actresses

945
00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:54,990
or actors or anything like that.
But you do get the credit. They

946
00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:57,780
are useful wherever credits can
be used, including LinkedIn.

947
00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:03,210
fact that this has helped people
get gigs and they remains on

948
00:57:03,210 --> 00:57:03,660
record.

949
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:06,840
A lot of people put it on their
signature to on their email. a

950
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,770
tonne of people do that.

951
00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:13,800
And you are part of a a ever
growing community who are

952
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,460
awakened, enlightened and will
understand you in a moment's

953
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:19,980
notice of you saying ITM that's
all it will take

954
00:57:20,009 --> 00:57:23,759
ITM works to TM worldwide. In
fact, like I said, some might

955
00:57:23,759 --> 00:57:29,849
guess last year somebody Mimi
was at the the Costco in scrim

956
00:57:29,849 --> 00:57:34,949
Washington and somebody behind
her said ITM and then they

957
00:57:34,949 --> 00:57:35,669
disappeared.

958
00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:37,620
I thought we weren't going to
talk about her encounter with

959
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:38,460
Barbra Streisand.

960
00:57:38,819 --> 00:57:43,949
Like these wasn't Barbra
Streisand who did that? Sorry.

961
00:57:44,579 --> 00:57:47,069
thank a few people who
contributed became the executive

962
00:57:47,069 --> 00:57:50,429
producer, Associate Executive
Producer for show five ad

963
00:57:52,289 --> 00:57:56,489
starting with Mark Beckwith, and
he's in Fort Worth, Texas. And

964
00:57:56,489 --> 00:57:59,729
by the way, everyone in Texas
knows that Fort Worth is where

965
00:57:59,759 --> 00:58:04,469
all the real money is true. Most
of the rich guys are in Houston.

966
00:58:04,619 --> 00:58:08,939
But those are rich guys. But the
money real established Texas

967
00:58:08,939 --> 00:58:10,199
money's in Fort Worth.

968
00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:12,360
Yeah, that's why they were part
of Dallas and they said hey,

969
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,310
let's go make a rich guys place
over here.

970
00:58:14,610 --> 00:58:17,340
Yeah, we'll call what's your big
Texas Fort Worth?

971
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,130
Listen to the name for we're
protected by the Fort Worth is

972
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:23,670
where all the worth is. Kiska?
Exactly how much you worth? I'm

973
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:24,750
not at all I'm in Fort Worth.

974
00:58:25,529 --> 00:58:29,279
Fort Worth. And Mark backwoods
is obviously one of these people

975
00:58:29,279 --> 00:58:32,399
because here's his note, John
and Adam, thank you for your

976
00:58:32,399 --> 00:58:34,439
courage. St. Mark Beckwith

977
00:58:35,130 --> 00:58:39,600
Well, thank you very much. And
he becomes a knight today. Yeah,

978
00:58:39,630 --> 00:58:42,480
instruments. And I think he was
the one that emailed me. He was

979
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:47,400
very concerned about Pay Pal is
vague. He said, But if Pay Pal

980
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,760
takes, you know, two or 3% And
how much do I have to send to

981
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,640
make my $1,000 Night donations
and now we eat that? Don't worry

982
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,760
about it. Don't we eat that?
That's part of our cost? Yeah.

983
00:58:56,820 --> 00:58:57,480
Okay.

984
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:02,580
And that's thoughtful. That's a
man of few words.

985
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,610
Yes. Thank you, Mark. And you
will become Did you have any

986
00:59:06,090 --> 00:59:07,050
special title? Yeah.

987
00:59:07,770 --> 00:59:09,780
I read the the notice shops or
mark.

988
00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:13,290
Okay, good. Fabulous. Thank you
so much for your courage mark.

989
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,540
So David Foley, Archduke of
Silicon Valley, came in again to

990
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:23,070
become the sole member of the
five ad club with five at ITM,

991
00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:25,290
John and Adam, thank you for
your courage and continuing to

992
00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:28,350
deliver the best podcast in the
universe.

993
00:59:28,379 --> 00:59:31,349
We know we can take out ads in
Variety magazine congratulating

994
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:34,409
ourselves when we win. Oh,
that's right. That's cool.

995
00:59:34,439 --> 00:59:42,569
Listen to that. Wow. That's
military warning. Just they're

996
00:59:42,569 --> 00:59:45,239
they're just little afterburner
warning for curry. Well, hey,

997
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:49,079
just so you know. Oh, my god.
That was right over the house.

998
00:59:49,859 --> 00:59:51,389
Dude, I mean, Austin.

999
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,380
Yeah, I can hear it too. Holy
moly. Anyways, please send a

1000
00:59:55,380 --> 00:59:58,710
little no agenda karma as we
launch our new 4k streaming set

1001
00:59:58,710 --> 01:00:02,010
top box at CES. Just this week
he's going to be at CES provided

1002
01:00:02,790 --> 01:00:06,870
a showing, are you going $50 of
this donation is matching funds

1003
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:08,040
from a no agenda listener?

1004
01:00:08,130 --> 01:00:11,520
That means we he sold three
boxes using our code. Yeah.

1005
01:00:11,550 --> 01:00:12,690
Which was what was the code?

1006
01:00:13,530 --> 01:00:16,800
And just na? Na,

1007
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,380
are you going spider from
Fourcade? What's the name of the

1008
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:22,620
company? You go to
4k special.com? Or K

1009
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:23,820
special.com? Are you going

1010
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:24,840
to CES?

1011
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,220
I'm doing everything I can to
avoid it. So it's gonna be tough

1012
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:31,860
to see. Do I want to go to CES
is what you should ask.

1013
01:00:32,759 --> 01:00:35,609
John, do you want to go to CES?
Hell no. Okay.

1014
01:00:36,210 --> 01:00:36,990
It's a nightmare.

1015
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:42,000
Very interesting. As I was
watching a couple of the quote,

1016
01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:46,770
te CH, end quote shows tech
shows tech shows which consists

1017
01:00:46,770 --> 01:00:52,170
mainly of jabbering chicks. But
yeah, this year phones, yeah,

1018
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,310
this year every. And I'll be
sexist in this case, because I

1019
01:00:56,310 --> 01:01:00,270
hear it from the chicks mainly.
They're all saying the same

1020
01:01:00,270 --> 01:01:05,580
thing. Yeah, see, it's gonna be
such a drag. We have tired fi to

1021
01:01:05,580 --> 01:01:08,910
walking for hours. And now
there's gonna be 500 products, I

1022
01:01:08,910 --> 01:01:14,460
really only want to write about
four or five. And these are

1023
01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:17,910
women who sound like that. Wow,
you watch you you watch. This is

1024
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:23,520
women that the tech girl and
women chick things. Bitches

1025
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,110
community are bitching. As
they're saying the same thing

1026
01:01:28,110 --> 01:01:34,560
and it's, it's disheartening.
It's like, go find some go.

1027
01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:38,220
Don't just go and have the PR
thing in your hand and go to all

1028
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:41,910
the can demos, find out do some
news research. There's

1029
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:44,010
some reports a lot of cool
stuff. If you go into the

1030
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:46,080
backroom, little things I don't

1031
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,480
know about you and your back
rooms, but you can do some real

1032
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,470
reporting. It sounds like
everyone is so jaded. That's a

1033
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:57,210
good fee. So So annoy the
traffic rolly Sox. It's all bad.

1034
01:01:57,390 --> 01:01:58,590
I don't know what that might
feed.

1035
01:02:00,870 --> 01:02:03,540
is everyone's got all these
women are angling for a foot

1036
01:02:03,540 --> 01:02:04,740
rub. Let's face it.

1037
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,800
Well, there's something I would
go to CES just to rub all their

1038
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:08,130
feet.

1039
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:10,740
That you would anyway,

1040
01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:14,160
let's give our Archduke Sir
David Foley some karma for his

1041
01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:18,540
support of the show. You've got
Carmen and May you have many of

1042
01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:21,540
these tech Chicky show up and
write nice things about your

1043
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:22,800
product, Sir David.

1044
01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:27,780
So I came up with the you know,
if I was doing editing a

1045
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:30,990
magazine, it was tech. And
you're right. The women are

1046
01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:33,540
taking over the whole thing
because they like to all play

1047
01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:37,590
games. They all think they're
nerds. And I think you want to

1048
01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:40,650
you want to see where this is
going to end up? And how it

1049
01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:42,840
would end up and what would
really draw the crowd and

1050
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,570
what people would read naked
chicks reviewing.

1051
01:02:45,870 --> 01:02:49,800
Here's the headline, Britney
Spears reviews, three phones.

1052
01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:52,830
Taylor Swift about your next
iPad?

1053
01:02:53,340 --> 01:02:57,630
Exact this is a good idea. By
the way. She's telling me

1054
01:02:57,750 --> 01:03:00,300
Beyonce beyond email.

1055
01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:06,240
Exactly. That would rock.

1056
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:11,820
This is a good idea. We're
crazy. And I know the Biebs

1057
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,260
shows you how to tweet.

1058
01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:16,860
Yeah, no, that would be that you
can might you might as well if

1059
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:19,500
you're writing about tech, and
this and that, that what I just

1060
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:23,550
described and followed up with
began to happen. You're done.

1061
01:03:23,940 --> 01:03:26,040
What is what happened with
Twitter? I predicted that when

1062
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,550
Twitter first came up, I was
actually top 10 Would followers

1063
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,150
like 9000 It wasn't that many.
But at the time I and I always

1064
01:03:33,150 --> 01:03:35,850
said once Britney Spears and the
rest of these people start

1065
01:03:35,850 --> 01:03:39,090
tweeting, you're done. You're
not going to be in the top 1000

1066
01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:39,930
years old. Right.

1067
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,310
Right. Right. Kim Kim K on best
camcorders for your sex tape.

1068
01:03:46,530 --> 01:03:48,450
Read that. Read it show.

1069
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,180
We'd all read it. That's the
problem. This is a

1070
01:03:51,180 --> 01:03:53,910
great idea. John. We're rich.

1071
01:03:54,420 --> 01:04:00,030
Yeah, yeah, well let's thank our
producers instead. John sex John

1072
01:04:00,030 --> 01:04:04,140
St. Peters, Missouri 333 33
Here's a link from an audio

1073
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:06,900
recording introduced requested
clips from the show I'd love it

1074
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:09,900
if you decide to use my
recording which I don't did you

1075
01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:10,560
get I don't know

1076
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:15,270
because I never saw this I had
no okay

1077
01:04:15,570 --> 01:04:19,470
well maybe we'll we'll take a
look at it for next show. In the

1078
01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:21,960
morning thanks for your courage
how fond you are of Bitcoin know

1079
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,210
how fond your of bitcoins but I
recently made a bunch of money

1080
01:04:24,210 --> 01:04:28,050
through speculation on said
bitcoins by using Adams analysis

1081
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:32,100
of the price going to $1,000 per
Bitcoin. Therefore, I compelled

1082
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,830
to make another donation toward
my knighthood. I would like to

1083
01:04:34,830 --> 01:04:38,100
reserve the title Baron of the
Dark Net also, I wanted to tell

1084
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,860
you that I recently hit my
friend Kevin in the mouth with

1085
01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:43,920
the show. Kevin is an
entrepreneur and he is out there

1086
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,940
trying to create jobs with gift
card drainer.com This may come

1087
01:04:47,940 --> 01:04:50,550
in that's actually not a bad
idea. What is that? Well, I

1088
01:04:50,550 --> 01:04:55,140
think it would it does. It's
It's the gift card drainer.com

1089
01:04:55,140 --> 01:04:57,840
and read this is the quickest
and easiest way to drain the

1090
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,680
balance from Visa and
MasterCard. giftcards directly

1091
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,680
to the bank. If you're Adam and
John, in the morning to you and

1092
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,790
think I have that you think

1093
01:05:05,790 --> 01:05:06,570
if you want to hear it,

1094
01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:11,640
I would listen to it after you
decide. Adam, you'd also like to

1095
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,190
get the money in your favourite
cryptocurrency Bitcoins. Now

1096
01:05:14,190 --> 01:05:15,990
that Kevin has been listening
for a few weeks, he's planning

1097
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:17,970
to make a donation on his own.
So hopefully, you'll skip

1098
01:05:17,970 --> 01:05:21,150
Boehner status and go right to
donor. Thanks and keep up the

1099
01:05:21,150 --> 01:05:23,970
great work. You know, gift cards
are the biggest scam in the

1100
01:05:23,970 --> 01:05:24,480
world.

1101
01:05:24,899 --> 01:05:27,689
Yeah, because most people forget
about them. And you that's the

1102
01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:30,420
idea. You forget the card and it
expires, which is illegal in

1103
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:33,570
California, by the way they pass
a law they can never expire.

1104
01:05:33,629 --> 01:05:37,199
Oh, really? We got those places.
We got a number of those on the

1105
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:42,329
first Hot Pockets tour and a
couple on the second. And it's

1106
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:45,719
Yeah, I mean, we Mickey is
really good about this stuff. I

1107
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:47,879
have to say she's like, we're
getting gas. Okay, I'm going to

1108
01:05:47,879 --> 01:05:50,999
do and of course with these
cards, this, they're also

1109
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:54,809
programmed to fail kind of you
so we had like 100 Buck Visa

1110
01:05:54,809 --> 01:05:58,949
card. And it's okay, let's go
use it, get some gas, and you

1111
01:05:58,949 --> 01:06:01,949
swipe the card and it wouldn't
work, then you would have to go

1112
01:06:01,949 --> 01:06:04,889
in and see the guy or whatever.
And so it's discouraging.

1113
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:09,900
Yeah, no, they're a scam. Now
this, this gift card drainer

1114
01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:13,290
device, somebody gave me a gift
card go. Not that I have used

1115
01:06:13,290 --> 01:06:17,280
it. I know it works. But just
the idea. I would dump the card

1116
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,460
immediately. Just pull it out
and say give me the money,

1117
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:23,790
unfortunately, probably going to
lose some percentage. You like

1118
01:06:23,790 --> 01:06:25,800
those coins orders that they
have in stores?

1119
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:28,830
Remember, I told you we got to
the flexible spending account

1120
01:06:28,830 --> 01:06:31,890
for pre tax dollars that you can
spend on doctors and stuff?

1121
01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:35,910
Yeah, and it's a whopping two
and a half $1,000 a year a

1122
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:38,340
whopping I'll say so Mickey has
all these doctors that the

1123
01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:41,610
insurance doesn't cover for her,
you know for Jesus, thyroid,

1124
01:06:41,730 --> 01:06:45,120
thyroid, all kinds of stuff.
It's no it's the brains man.

1125
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,360
We're trying to fix the brains.
And so she goes to the to her

1126
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,090
favourite doctor and it's and
she's Oh, I've got the credit

1127
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,420
card and declined and first
tried time she tries to use it

1128
01:06:57,420 --> 01:07:03,000
declined. Then you have to call
these assholes. I'm sorry. I'm

1129
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,530
off topic. I'm just angry.

1130
01:07:05,550 --> 01:07:09,720
Okay, well, it sounds reasonable
to be angry. Sir Bill Baumann in

1131
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:15,060
Port port. Why nimi? California
$300. Good job on the Apple bomb

1132
01:07:15,060 --> 01:07:17,430
business. My major comment is
that Apple bombs seems to be

1133
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:19,290
worried about it, which was on
the last show for people who

1134
01:07:19,290 --> 01:07:22,890
haven't heard show 579 It's
quite interesting. My major

1135
01:07:22,890 --> 01:07:25,680
comment is that Apple bomb seems
to be worried about what I would

1136
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,460
call being routine software
development for the iPhone, the

1137
01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:32,010
instructions to turn on GPS
microphones and other

1138
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:36,390
surveillance capabilities
available by any at any WWDC

1139
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:38,700
conference, as well as the
developer forums all over the

1140
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:42,000
internet. So what's the big
deal? Many websites and

1141
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,790
applications used these
capabilities also the Russians,

1142
01:07:44,790 --> 01:07:48,480
Chinese and even the Germans can
get this information routinely.

1143
01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:50,850
Obviously, all the major
professional intelligence

1144
01:07:50,850 --> 01:07:53,580
services already have this
ability. The NSA is not alone in

1145
01:07:53,580 --> 01:07:56,940
having major information
technology capability. Ever

1146
01:07:56,940 --> 01:08:00,450
since key loggers and carnivore
year 2000 Or earlier, our

1147
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:02,910
personal privacy has been
compromised. Personally, I do

1148
01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:06,120
not see a real solution to this
privacy invasion. Don't forget

1149
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,210
Android and Windows phones,
friends. They have developer

1150
01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:12,720
conferences and development
forums as well. They send out

1151
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,750
some general karma to everyone
because we can all use it.

1152
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:18,540
Sir bill brings up some
excellent points. If you go to

1153
01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:24,690
the Apple Store and speak to a
gene Yes. They will. They

1154
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,360
essentially connect with their
you know, their little iPads or

1155
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,330
whatever writing to your phone
through Wi Fi. I think they

1156
01:08:30,330 --> 01:08:33,570
activate something on the phone.
But yeah, this is like true. I

1157
01:08:33,570 --> 01:08:37,110
got so many emails from people
about that the majority I will

1158
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:40,620
say like thank you for exposing
this douchebag. Apparently you

1159
01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:43,590
also use the word the word
vector in one of the speech I

1160
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:46,710
had, we didn't neither you or I
caught it. But apparently, one

1161
01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:50,190
of those clips we played he was
talking about some vector, which

1162
01:08:50,190 --> 01:08:53,400
is always you know, the big
oops, it turns out the guy

1163
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:58,500
didn't even programme really in
Tor. He's the evangelist Did you

1164
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:01,170
know this? He's not the
developer.

1165
01:09:01,500 --> 01:09:04,650
Know the developers some I heard
the developer speaks once in a

1166
01:09:04,650 --> 01:09:05,340
while I can't remember.

1167
01:09:05,639 --> 01:09:08,969
They have a pretty big team that
is funded of course by the

1168
01:09:08,999 --> 01:09:12,119
mainly the government and the
government stooges like Google,

1169
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:19,709
but he's just he's, he's the
evangelist. Anyway. A lot of

1170
01:09:19,709 --> 01:09:21,929
people got very good, very
focused on this kind of thing

1171
01:09:21,929 --> 01:09:25,139
because it is interesting. And
you know, you have a device like

1172
01:09:25,139 --> 01:09:28,259
this. So you want to see if the,
if the compromise is real. And

1173
01:09:28,349 --> 01:09:31,109
yeah, all of this this is this
is I agree, this is no big

1174
01:09:31,109 --> 01:09:34,259
secret, but it's also not the
bulk of what's taking place. It

1175
01:09:34,259 --> 01:09:37,799
just isn't. Now they can also
come in, put a gun to my head

1176
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:41,399
and take everything is this just
as possible or send a drone and

1177
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:44,279
blow me up and then say it was a
gas explosion. All of that can

1178
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:48,569
happen. But the true dragnet is
what's being obfuscated. Anyway,

1179
01:09:48,569 --> 01:09:50,879
let's get the general purpose
carpet everybody. Yeah, everyone

1180
01:09:50,879 --> 01:09:54,479
can use it, sir bill, you've got
absolutely right. Thank you.

1181
01:09:56,070 --> 01:10:01,260
Sir l family in Amarillo, Texas
$205 I got a note from them from

1182
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:05,280
families, the soil family. Well,
I mean, it's I couldn't figure

1183
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,040
out who it came from because the
note says from Steph Stephen or

1184
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:13,530
Steph and Jennifer Dalton and.
And Dean, I guess is a Dean's

1185
01:10:13,530 --> 01:10:14,730
yeah and Dean Serral

1186
01:10:15,390 --> 01:10:16,950
Sir Sir Martin Soro?

1187
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:19,230
No there's no that I know.

1188
01:10:19,230 --> 01:10:20,760
Isn't he the WPP guy?

1189
01:10:22,830 --> 01:10:26,490
I don't know. No. All right.
Here let me just read my wife

1190
01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:29,460
and I have been listening to
your you for years. Love the

1191
01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:33,540
show love it when by was written
in a scrawl. So it's gonna take

1192
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:38,460
me a second. Love it when curry
travels. I can see how the ad

1193
01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:42,150
free model is the way to go
compare it to Leo's slow

1194
01:10:42,150 --> 01:10:42,900
corruption.

1195
01:10:45,630 --> 01:10:47,940
More notes like this people
cursive

1196
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:55,110
curry is such is such more
happier. He's much happier, much

1197
01:10:55,110 --> 01:11:00,720
happier than when he was working
for someone else. Yes. Last year

1198
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:05,430
at this time, we asked for karma
for a little guy on the

1199
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:10,320
Christmas on the Christmas card.
We are in our mid late 30s And

1200
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,520
he was our third pregnancy. His
name is Dean Serral. And he's

1201
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,430
now four months old and very
healthy karma works.

1202
01:11:17,519 --> 01:11:20,459
Hey, did we save another human
beings life?

1203
01:11:21,330 --> 01:11:25,770
Thanks for all the work you guys
do. Give yourselves a karma from

1204
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,240
us. Merry Christmas.

1205
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:29,880
Thank you sir. Well, family
we're so happy for the little

1206
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,300
guy. That's great karma for you
right back atcha you've got

1207
01:11:33,420 --> 01:11:36,540
karma Rakhine and thank you for
the support Marilla thank you

1208
01:11:36,540 --> 01:11:40,740
for the support you are right. I
am I'm so much happier now that

1209
01:11:40,740 --> 01:11:45,870
I don't work for somebody else.
Yeah, it's it's it's a lifestyle

1210
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:46,530
choice.

1211
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,730
lifestyle choice. It's a
depression. We're in the middle

1212
01:11:50,730 --> 01:11:56,580
of a depression. Any income at
all lifestyle choice. Poverty,

1213
01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:57,570
you can always find work.

1214
01:11:57,780 --> 01:12:02,610
Don't really, I? How many times
have I tried to find actual work

1215
01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:05,520
like auditions? What am I going
to do? What kind of work can I

1216
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:05,970
do?

1217
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,730
Voiceover No, I

1218
01:12:08,730 --> 01:12:13,980
have received zero gigs ever.
Thank you. No, that's alright.

1219
01:12:13,980 --> 01:12:16,110
You can stop because there is no
other work for me. I don't know

1220
01:12:16,110 --> 01:12:20,940
what to do. And yes,

1221
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,840
we got the email project coming
lifestyle choice. Yes, the email

1222
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,920
mail project surge sought Sean
Conley and Naperville Illinois

1223
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,630
had $21.40 this donation of two
oh 1.4 Is a thank you for your

1224
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:36,690
continued courage. Please give a
calm karma shout out to all the

1225
01:12:36,690 --> 01:12:39,930
listeners both. This is a lot of
the this is the giving season

1226
01:12:39,930 --> 01:12:42,300
and people are giving their
karma away like that both

1227
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:46,200
producers as well as douchebags.
Wow. I think we're all going to

1228
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,880
need it in 2014. So Shawn,

1229
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,920
I think you're on the right
track here. And you are correct,

1230
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:54,360
sir. You've got karma. Thank
you, everyone. I agree.

1231
01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:59,580
Don Stein or David Stein, or I'm
sorry, in Vienna, Austria. $200

1232
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:02,970
Vienna, shout out to Freddie the
firewall and don't get

1233
01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:06,060
backdoored like Cisco did keep
up the good work. Please send

1234
01:13:06,060 --> 01:13:10,020
karma to everybody who is
currently unemployed. There you

1235
01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:10,380
go.

1236
01:13:10,469 --> 01:13:18,719
Okay. I was going to do this and
scanning files his best friend.

1237
01:13:19,229 --> 01:13:25,859
Chinese attacks are just no
match. You've got karma.

1238
01:13:27,930 --> 01:13:34,350
And finally, Michel de Kock in
Chandler Arizona. $200. There

1239
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:36,810
John and Adam thank you for your
courage. After six months of

1240
01:13:36,810 --> 01:13:39,570
getting hooked on the no agenda
show I figured it was high time

1241
01:13:39,570 --> 01:13:46,680
for a D douching. stopped me
Boehner now give me you've been

1242
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:54,000
de doo, doo doo. John, if you're
reading this, you're gonna ask

1243
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,550
Adam to pronounce my name
properly. And if he ever

1244
01:13:56,670 --> 01:13:59,490
complains about being mocked
about his name as a child, just

1245
01:13:59,490 --> 01:14:05,130
imagine the amount of ripping I
get. D C. O c ks name. The COC.

1246
01:14:05,730 --> 01:14:12,060
Yeah, the COC. It's not that
bad. I'd like to imagine make

1247
01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:14,880
this donation on behalf of music
gourmet.com A little forum I

1248
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,370
started a few years ago. It's a
user supportive community. We're

1249
01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:19,530
talking about music, food,
politics and anything else under

1250
01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:22,140
the sun. I like to extend an
open invitation. The only no

1251
01:14:22,140 --> 01:14:24,600
agenda listeners to come in and
join us for random banter. I

1252
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:29,790
think music gourmet.com as a
free speech zone where everyone

1253
01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:32,340
is welcome especially the
crackpots in the douchebags. I

1254
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,730
deeply appreciate the value you
offer and the support and the

1255
01:14:35,730 --> 01:14:38,520
effort you put into every
episode. Thanks again and keep

1256
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,960
up the good work. We have
permission to use his name to

1257
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,730
dock the COC. Okay,

1258
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:46,680
welcome to the best COC in the
universe.

1259
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:52,590
And that'll be it for a show
five ad a lot of banter, some

1260
01:14:52,590 --> 01:14:54,990
donations that we're all
valuable. We want to thank all

1261
01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:56,970
these people and we have some
more to thank you halfway

1262
01:14:56,970 --> 01:14:59,190
through the show when I remind
people to go to Dvorak that org

1263
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:03,300
slash na channel Have org.com/na
no agenda show.com and also no

1264
01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:06,540
agenda nation.com. Both those
sites have a button you can push

1265
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:09,450
and you'd get right to the
donation backup sites.

1266
01:15:09,480 --> 01:15:13,260
And I'd like to add to that our
show is so awesome that the

1267
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:17,970
Norwegian art generator.com is
back up and running. That's

1268
01:15:18,330 --> 01:15:22,320
isn't that cool? In that call,
it shows it proves to you the

1269
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:28,080
model works to vorak.org/n A,
and you can always try and do

1270
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,080
where one very important thing
on propagate our formula.

1271
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:36,150
Our formula is this, we go out,
we get people in the mouth.

1272
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:54,210
Nice, nice, nice. Thank you very
much just for Paul, if you did

1273
01:15:54,210 --> 01:15:57,960
that, already came up by itself.
It's funny, just before the show

1274
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,720
started, we were talking about
this how part of our model is we

1275
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,050
don't essentially run anything,
we don't run any infrastructure

1276
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:07,230
we can't afford to. We can't We
can't afford to have people to

1277
01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:10,680
run it. And so these are the
other donations of another kind

1278
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,860
when someone sets up a server
that maintains all of our art

1279
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:18,630
submissions and the artwork. And
so it's the things go down. That

1280
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:21,720
happens now if we had been
running it, it would not be up

1281
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,570
right now. Because you know, we
have to either I'd have to go in

1282
01:16:24,570 --> 01:16:29,190
and figure it out. I have to
call somebody. And now in this

1283
01:16:29,190 --> 01:16:32,460
system, it still went down but
it came back up magically no one

1284
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:33,900
had to do anything. It's a great

1285
01:16:33,929 --> 01:16:36,599
we are so far but he had to do
something but it wasn't humble.

1286
01:16:36,599 --> 01:16:37,919
We are so far ahead

1287
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,100
of anyone else in media. One day
we're gonna be dead and people

1288
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:43,290
are gonna say You know, those
guys were onto something.

1289
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:46,710
Yeah, but too bad now because
we're in a fascist state and

1290
01:16:46,710 --> 01:16:47,550
we're in a gulag

1291
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:51,990
only I had helped them sooner.

1292
01:16:53,610 --> 01:16:58,050
So I went to a Taco Bell. Wow.
Yeah, once in a while I get

1293
01:16:58,050 --> 01:16:58,290
this.

1294
01:16:58,710 --> 01:17:01,740
This has not been in a long time
eat for

1295
01:17:01,740 --> 01:17:04,800
one of those bean burritos which
is essentially flowers and

1296
01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:07,710
flower burrito and beans. Which
I used to have when I was a kid

1297
01:17:07,710 --> 01:17:10,800
because I there's a Mexican
family down the street from me.

1298
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,110
So I've always liked that
combination. But I noticed

1299
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:15,660
something curious, which I think
is interesting. I'm gonna

1300
01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:19,950
probably tweet this. All the
packages of the little hot

1301
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:22,710
sauces have messages on them
now.

1302
01:17:23,219 --> 01:17:25,709
Oh, like little slogans? No, no,
they're

1303
01:17:25,710 --> 01:17:29,100
crazy messages like, like the I
got I grabbed three of them just

1304
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:32,400
for the show. One of them said
it says the Saudis right in the

1305
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,410
cells a package says Why say no.
When you can say yes. These are

1306
01:17:37,410 --> 01:17:38,910
all sexually suggestive.

1307
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:41,580
Oh, no, this is no, this is for
stoners.

1308
01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:46,710
And here's another one ready?
Yeah. You have chosen wisely.

1309
01:17:47,340 --> 01:17:51,660
Okay. Here's one that I think is
gonna get people in trouble. And

1310
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:56,250
Honey, can I have the some sod
Sasha here, sweetie? And it says

1311
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:01,950
on the hot sauce. Will you marry
me? Yeah,

1312
01:18:01,980 --> 01:18:04,710
yes. I'd love to is the railing
the taco?

1313
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:12,510
Wow, how romantic. said holy
crap. How many people are

1314
01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:15,330
getting their proposal from us
from well?

1315
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:21,900
Hold on. I know how the meeting
went. Okay, I had a I had an

1316
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:26,340
idea for our clients Taco Bell.
And the idea was that if we put

1317
01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:28,350
all these crazy slogans on
packages, and we'll put some

1318
01:18:28,350 --> 01:18:31,620
cool ones in there, like, will
you marry me? Like I'm sure

1319
01:18:31,620 --> 01:18:34,650
someone at some point will see
this and go oh, crap. I'll just

1320
01:18:34,650 --> 01:18:40,140
like propose now and then we'll
have great free PR. Yeah, I'm

1321
01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:42,180
pretty sure that's how some of
that went.

1322
01:18:42,809 --> 01:18:46,649
I have absolutely your I think
you nailed it. That's the only

1323
01:18:46,649 --> 01:18:49,949
possibility or the reason yeah.
Because at some point,

1324
01:18:49,949 --> 01:18:52,739
somebody's gonna get married
because of the Taco Bell hot

1325
01:18:52,739 --> 01:18:56,309
sauce package. And it's gonna
get on TV and it probably

1326
01:18:56,399 --> 01:18:58,499
proliferate on the you know,
actually, they'll probably

1327
01:18:58,499 --> 01:18:59,729
produce it themselves.

1328
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,660
Da Oh, hold on a second. Is
this. Is this on? Mix? Are you

1329
01:19:03,660 --> 01:19:04,650
John's? Sorry?

1330
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,950
You're right. What else would a
video press release?

1331
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:10,860
Put it in the book. Just put it
in the book. It might as well

1332
01:19:10,860 --> 01:19:13,410
put it in the book. Okay,
because we didn't put the kid

1333
01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:17,310
hot sauce wedding. We didn't put
the kid with a weed cookie in

1334
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:20,340
the in the book. And now look
where it got us. We didn't get a

1335
01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:21,660
check mark in the book.

1336
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:23,580
Yes, true. It's so

1337
01:19:23,610 --> 01:19:27,600
easy. I mean, we do the tough
ones. We should take the easy

1338
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,550
hand low hanging fruit from time
to time.

1339
01:19:29,580 --> 01:19:32,100
That's definitely low hanging
fruit with these types of so

1340
01:19:32,370 --> 01:19:34,380
he's talking about size
packages.

1341
01:19:36,690 --> 01:19:41,340
Oh, man. So I was kind of
focused on. You know, of course,

1342
01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:45,690
once I had the NDA thing, I'm
like, you know, holy crap. I

1343
01:19:45,690 --> 01:19:48,720
gotta go to the Federal Register
and see what else happened now.

1344
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,610
Yeah, of course something else
happened. The

1345
01:19:50,610 --> 01:19:53,970
Obama administration announced
two new executive actions

1346
01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:57,870
affecting background checks for
gun buyers today. Both focus on

1347
01:19:57,870 --> 01:20:01,170
limiting firearm access for
People with mental health

1348
01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:04,830
issues. One rule that's
hospitals submit additional

1349
01:20:04,830 --> 01:20:07,620
information about a patient's
mental health into the

1350
01:20:07,620 --> 01:20:10,950
background check system.
President Obama proposed tough

1351
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:14,820
gun control measures in Congress
last year in the wake of the new

1352
01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:18,450
town school shootings, but they
got little support. Now, of

1353
01:20:18,450 --> 01:20:18,930
course,

1354
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,450
you're going to hear a little
reporting about this. This was

1355
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:27,270
PBS. And the rules aren't really
available. I haven't really been

1356
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:29,820
able This is a Health and Human
Services regulation. You

1357
01:20:29,820 --> 01:20:32,850
can't this is illegal is the
reason that

1358
01:20:33,450 --> 01:20:37,650
yes, it is illegal. There's a
thing called HIPAA which now

1359
01:20:37,650 --> 01:20:39,630
essentially through executive,
well, they're calling an

1360
01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:43,050
executive action. But then some
will say executive order, it is

1361
01:20:43,050 --> 01:20:46,410
not I have not seen an executive
order executive action is a

1362
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:49,800
different phrase. I don't know
if it's different legally,

1363
01:20:49,980 --> 01:20:55,740
technically. But now a hospital.
If you have left, for instance,

1364
01:20:55,740 --> 01:20:59,550
if you feel a little wigged out,
and you're like, oh, you know, I

1365
01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:03,330
just don't I whatever my job, I
lost my job. You know, my dog

1366
01:21:03,330 --> 01:21:07,200
got run over my wife hate ran
away, my with the gardener, my

1367
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,910
kids hate me. I'm freaking out.
I just got, I just I need to go,

1368
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:15,600
I need to be somewhere, you can
check yourself in to a hospital,

1369
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,980
whatever and you and that your
insurance would even cover it.

1370
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:23,790
Like I'm freaking out. I just
need I'm freaking out. When you

1371
01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:32,100
check out the hospital can now
legally submit that as as a

1372
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:34,470
visiting a mental entity
institution. That's what I'm

1373
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:38,490
reading from the fact sheet. And
they can add that into

1374
01:21:39,389 --> 01:21:41,429
pose though that's not actually
law.

1375
01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:45,900
No, it's no, it's not law. It's
now by executive action. It's

1376
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:48,900
now I still don't believe that
that's legal. What do you mean,

1377
01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:51,390
it's an executive, the
executive, the president can do

1378
01:21:51,390 --> 01:21:54,810
whatever he wants, you said you
yourself say this all the time.

1379
01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:01,020
They are so restricted on what
you can say about your hospital

1380
01:22:01,020 --> 01:22:04,500
visit and get an approved client
just like being a client

1381
01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:08,040
attorney thing only with doctors
that I don't believe that you

1382
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,650
can just take a piece of
information and pull it from

1383
01:22:10,650 --> 01:22:14,130
your your medical record, which
is what this is, and then give

1384
01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:15,180
it to the government.

1385
01:22:17,550 --> 01:22:24,270
Um, let me read you from the
fact sheet. And of course, we're

1386
01:22:24,270 --> 01:22:26,580
talking about HIPAA, the Health
Insurance Portability,

1387
01:22:26,580 --> 01:22:31,740
Accountability Act, which has
privacy provisions. But in

1388
01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:35,070
April, and I think we identified
this health and human services

1389
01:22:35,070 --> 01:22:38,640
start to identify the scope and
extent of the reporting problem.

1390
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,370
But based on public comments,
now has a rule change to

1391
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,870
eliminate the barrier by giving
certain HIPAA covered entities

1392
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:52,770
so that, okay, here's what
they've done. certain entities

1393
01:22:52,770 --> 01:22:55,080
that will be the hospital, but
maybe not the doctor

1394
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,700
specifically, and express
permission to submit to the

1395
01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:04,440
background check system, the
limited information necessary to

1396
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:07,740
help keep guns out of
potentially dangerous hands.

1397
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,570
Now, it doesn't matter whether
you think it's legal or not,

1398
01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:16,530
it's not being reported on and
it is the war on crazy that we

1399
01:23:16,530 --> 01:23:20,850
said this always was going to be
and today that hospital submit

1400
01:23:20,850 --> 01:23:23,730
something so you can't get your
hands on a gun. And this

1401
01:23:23,730 --> 01:23:26,820
background system check will
then be used for a whole bunch

1402
01:23:26,820 --> 01:23:28,950
of other things, you should
probably shouldn't go to the

1403
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:31,680
public pool. Because you know,
there's kids there. And you

1404
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,340
know, you remember that time you
checked in. And it's just how it

1405
01:23:35,340 --> 01:23:37,680
is. And then you get a nice
yellow star and a number on your

1406
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,220
arm. This is how it always ends.
Unless someone stands up and

1407
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:45,600
says stop this crap. And the
next president, she will have to

1408
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,410
undo this.

1409
01:23:47,220 --> 01:23:52,950
Well, she's not going to do
anything. Somehow pat her bank

1410
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:53,340
account

1411
01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:57,870
shut. Well, if we can still have
hope. There's young people who

1412
01:23:57,870 --> 01:24:00,570
listen to this show. John, we
can still tell people what they

1413
01:24:00,570 --> 01:24:01,350
need to do

1414
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:05,490
is nobody who listens to this
show is a Clinton bot.

1415
01:24:06,210 --> 01:24:09,210
But people, people that have
influence people can vote, they

1416
01:24:09,210 --> 01:24:11,250
can talk to their friends and
their family. It's a long

1417
01:24:11,250 --> 01:24:13,830
process. These things don't
change overnight, but at least

1418
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:14,790
at least we're saying it.

1419
01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:19,290
I think you're missing the big
news, which I thought was kind

1420
01:24:19,290 --> 01:24:21,870
of funny. Bezos clip.

1421
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,630
Amazon founder and CEO Jeff
Bezos is recovering from kidney

1422
01:24:27,630 --> 01:24:30,840
stones, and is praising
international effort that

1423
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,320
rescued him. Bezos was on a
cruise around the Galapagos

1424
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,470
Islands on New Year's Day when
he became ill. The Ecuadorian

1425
01:24:37,470 --> 01:24:40,890
Navy took him by helicopter to
Baltra Island, and then a

1426
01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:44,190
private plane took him back to
the US for emergency surgery.

1427
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:48,060
Amazon says Bezos emailed his
company today giving the Navy

1428
01:24:48,060 --> 01:24:52,980
five stars in the kidney stone.
Zero stars hole hole hole.

1429
01:24:53,010 --> 01:24:55,140
This is what you get when you
don't print when we want in the

1430
01:24:55,140 --> 01:24:56,370
post. Bezos.

1431
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,890
You know, Bezos is drink more
water Water. That's you know, I

1432
01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:03,240
had a kidney stone once. Oh,

1433
01:25:03,300 --> 01:25:06,720
I've seen somebody in the
bathroom who had a kidney stone

1434
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:07,410
is not pretty

1435
01:25:07,980 --> 01:25:13,620
god. Well it happened at night.
It moved it moved. I didn't have

1436
01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:16,080
a problem with it like
apparently he had a big rock in

1437
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,300
there some I don't know. I mean,
they're very miniscule. He's

1438
01:25:18,330 --> 01:25:23,040
there's dinky, although I never
saw it. But it got out of there

1439
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:29,370
on its own. You passed it. Yeah.
Thank God, it was probably the

1440
01:25:29,370 --> 01:25:32,070
most painful thing. You can't
even imagine that you know what,

1441
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:36,720
I don't know. I've never been
stabbed with a knife. But I

1442
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,540
assumed that if you were stabbed
in the kidney with a knife,

1443
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:43,080
that's kind of what it would
feel like, right. And curiously,

1444
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,830
for some reason, I had that I
had the inner knowledge that it

1445
01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:50,610
was a kidney stone and it was
moving did so I've managed to

1446
01:25:50,610 --> 01:25:52,800
get through it. But I was like,
why does it ghost and it was

1447
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:55,740
like you sweat and you get a
quick fever and it goes away

1448
01:25:55,740 --> 01:25:58,650
instantly. And then you then
you're fine. Just instantly it's

1449
01:25:58,650 --> 01:26:01,470
the weirdest thing you've ever
had. But it was from I got I was

1450
01:26:01,470 --> 01:26:02,850
coming back from China. Wait,

1451
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,860
did the Chinese navy come to
save? You

1452
01:26:05,250 --> 01:26:08,820
know, nobody saved me. I was at
home. But I knew what it was. I

1453
01:26:08,820 --> 01:26:11,520
wasn't drinking enough water
when I was travelling, right.

1454
01:26:13,230 --> 01:26:16,320
You gotta drink water people.
This is the diabo travel chip.

1455
01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:19,950
Every few shows. Drink more
water when you're travelling

1456
01:26:19,950 --> 01:26:22,770
Travel Tip. Tip number today,

1457
01:26:22,770 --> 01:26:26,340
if you think that was the big
news, I mean, Bezos. I call him

1458
01:26:26,340 --> 01:26:28,230
Bezos. I was Bezos by Colin by

1459
01:26:28,230 --> 01:26:31,380
the way Bezos or Bezos, whatever
he wants to call himself Yes.

1460
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:34,470
How about the other people they
take him to Ecuador and then he

1461
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:38,370
takes apply private jet home by
the way, he must have been in

1462
01:26:38,370 --> 01:26:41,730
agony for a number of hours.
Yeah, but who can afford this?

1463
01:26:42,150 --> 01:26:45,570
Oh, and he is a jet. How about
the Navy? The Navy can depend

1464
01:26:45,570 --> 01:26:45,660
the

1465
01:26:45,660 --> 01:26:47,760
Navy there. Yeah, I wonder if
they comped him.

1466
01:26:49,650 --> 01:26:55,860
Him. Amen. Can we get some
Amazon Prime accounts? Ah, you

1467
01:26:55,860 --> 01:26:59,220
thought that was big Neil Bezos,
Bezos. He's dumb. He didn't even

1468
01:26:59,220 --> 01:27:03,000
get anything out of the deal. At
least Gates got some free PR or

1469
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:04,320
maybe that was the whole point

1470
01:27:04,350 --> 01:27:07,470
for for Defence Secretary Robert
Gates is in a neck brace after

1471
01:27:07,470 --> 01:27:10,620
he fell at his home in western
Washington yesterday. His office

1472
01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:13,440
staff says he was hospitalised
overnight in Seattle because he

1473
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,530
fractured one of his vertebrae.
Gates is due to release his

1474
01:27:16,530 --> 01:27:20,910
memoir called duty on January
14. His staff says he's

1475
01:27:20,910 --> 01:27:23,520
determined to go ahead with a
heavy schedule of personal

1476
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,700
appearances. Gates was secretary
of defence under Presidents

1477
01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:31,050
George W. Bush and Barack Obama
before retiring in 2011.

1478
01:27:31,230 --> 01:27:34,170
So real or fake?

1479
01:27:35,610 --> 01:27:38,640
Well, I could have been somebody
pushing down the stairs or,

1480
01:27:38,970 --> 01:27:41,310
Hey, we need some heat on this
book, man. It's like how are we

1481
01:27:41,310 --> 01:27:44,280
going to do? No, no one cares.
No one even knows about gates

1482
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,830
anymore. They'll never knew
about this thing. It's Bill

1483
01:27:46,830 --> 01:27:48,570
Gates, his brother, what are you
going to do?

1484
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,010
He lives in Seattle

1485
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:55,680
push the fucker down the stairs.
Oh, we've got a report here. His

1486
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,590
book is on the way and he's got
a crushed vertebrae but he's a

1487
01:27:58,590 --> 01:28:01,710
trooper. That's right. He is
he's gonna come out and still

1488
01:28:01,710 --> 01:28:03,630
promote that book. Wow, you're
so awesome.

1489
01:28:03,690 --> 01:28:05,820
Look, I you know, as you
mentioned, I never knew about

1490
01:28:05,820 --> 01:28:08,580
this book at all. It's gonna be
a total dog.

1491
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:12,420
Yeah, well, at least they're
trying. Well, yeah, it's a good

1492
01:28:12,420 --> 01:28:14,010
try. took one for the Gipper.

1493
01:28:14,490 --> 01:28:15,690
took one for the team.

1494
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:22,590
I think that's good. I think
that's outstanding. Outstanding,

1495
01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:23,100
I say.

1496
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,660
So I do have some climate gate
stuff if you want to just could

1497
01:28:27,690 --> 01:28:28,530
run through it.

1498
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:34,950
Yeah, well, we can actually do
to the gate to the to the

1499
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:42,780
clinic. I have have some stuff
too.

1500
01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:50,700
But one for one. So oops.
There's a you know that we on

1501
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:54,090
the show? I think we've decided
I at least I have and I think

1502
01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:57,420
you may be in this with me.
We've decided that there is

1503
01:28:57,420 --> 01:29:02,640
global change. Climate change,
and it's cooling we are we're at

1504
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,580
the beginning of an ice age.
Yes. And that's because it will

1505
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:07,890
kill off a lot of people and it
will benefit the elites

1506
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,250
well hold on it's not by telling
them to buy speedos it'll kill

1507
01:29:11,250 --> 01:29:15,300
them off because people should
be learning how to skin deer and

1508
01:29:15,300 --> 01:29:19,350
skin bears and and it's also
part of the anti fire movement

1509
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:22,800
by the way that's also to kill
you so you're not warm when the

1510
01:29:22,830 --> 01:29:24,120
when the Ice Age hits.

1511
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:26,610
Well, in fact your reminds me of
this clip, which is the

1512
01:29:26,610 --> 01:29:30,660
icebreaker clip which you may
have to which which will play.

1513
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:35,280
You'd like to call them the rich
kids from Instagram, but did you

1514
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,280
know that they were going to the
Antarctic to study global

1515
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:38,910
warming?

1516
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:43,290
Yes, but I have some I'll play
the clip and I have a late night

1517
01:29:43,290 --> 01:29:44,880
clip and then I have some
additional info.

1518
01:29:45,180 --> 01:29:48,480
The US Coast Guard is sending an
icebreaker to help to stranded

1519
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:52,560
ships in Antarctica. The polar
star is moving from Sydney to

1520
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,880
the south on request from
Australia, Russia and China. It

1521
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,090
will help break a path in the
eyes for the ships to leave The

1522
01:30:00,090 --> 01:30:03,000
Russian ship got stuck on
Christmas Eve. This week the

1523
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,330
Chinese ship received airlifted
passengers successfully, but

1524
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:09,000
then it too became stuck in the
ice.

1525
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:16,230
Okay, so the guy who led this
expedition, Chris Turney wrote

1526
01:30:16,230 --> 01:30:18,780
an op ed in The Guardian. I
don't need to read the whole

1527
01:30:18,780 --> 01:30:21,810
thing to you, but I can give you
the headline, Antarctic

1528
01:30:21,810 --> 01:30:25,260
Expedition, quote, this wasn't a
tourist trip. It was all about

1529
01:30:25,260 --> 01:30:30,330
science, and it was worth it.
And then the follow up is

1530
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:35,400
research trip, a ship trapped in
Antarctic ice because of whether

1531
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,720
or not climate change which is
even more hilarious, because of

1532
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,590
course, the global warming is
all say that, well, yes. Now

1533
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:46,890
weather is climate. But when the
ship gets stuck in the ice, it's

1534
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:51,150
it's weather is not climate.
Anyway, so I found the details

1535
01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:54,990
of this trip, the scientific
exploration of the unknown

1536
01:30:54,990 --> 01:31:00,840
region. And there's a beautiful
PDF, the spirit of Mohsen, this

1537
01:31:00,870 --> 01:31:06,240
is this was essentially a rich
Pete This is why they all look

1538
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,220
like they were drunk and happy
because they weren't drunk and

1539
01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:14,250
happy. This was a rich people's
trip. Very much like rich people

1540
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,760
who have just a lot of
expendable cash will buy a trip

1541
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:22,170
on you know, Branson's
spaceship, which may never

1542
01:31:22,170 --> 01:31:24,660
happen but you know, you get to
drink with each other. You get

1543
01:31:24,660 --> 01:31:28,290
jackets, you get to go train on
the vomit comment, you know,

1544
01:31:28,290 --> 01:31:34,110
your zero G training, you go to
exotic places. Let me tell you

1545
01:31:34,110 --> 01:31:38,490
about this trip. This this
expedition, this climate science

1546
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:44,340
expedition. And I have I have
the sales material here. Our

1547
01:31:44,340 --> 01:31:48,720
ship the Chewbacca Buckeye beaks
is a true expedition vessel

1548
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:53,070
built in 1984. For polar and
ocean ocean oceanographic

1549
01:31:53,070 --> 01:31:57,450
research, she is fully ice
strengthened. This class of

1550
01:31:57,450 --> 01:32:01,770
vessel is world renowned for
polar exploration. A range of

1551
01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:05,400
births are available. In fact,
we can have 20 We have 26 berths

1552
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,810
available for this trip. So
there were 26 births available

1553
01:32:09,810 --> 01:32:17,220
on this trip. The Mini Suite for
$18,900 per person. Cabins

1554
01:32:17,220 --> 01:32:19,800
include a separate bedroom and a
double bed and a single bed or

1555
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,400
sofa in lounge, writing desk
wardrobe and drawers private

1556
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,370
bathroom and shower toilet and
wash base and large side facing

1557
01:32:26,370 --> 01:32:29,550
windows to allow great views. Of
course you could have gone for

1558
01:32:29,550 --> 01:32:33,540
the superior plus, which is a
little cheaper 17,500 per person

1559
01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:37,170
that has to lower birth so not a
big bed so you can have sex on

1560
01:32:37,170 --> 01:32:39,360
while you're in the ice. And
then of course there was the

1561
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:44,580
superior only 16,900 per person
and this includes a one bunk one

1562
01:32:44,610 --> 01:32:47,670
upper one lower also with
writing desk wardrobe drawers,

1563
01:32:47,670 --> 01:32:52,950
private bathroom and shower
toilet and washbasin. This was a

1564
01:32:53,010 --> 01:32:59,250
cruise and they gave lectures
and talks on board little

1565
01:32:59,250 --> 01:33:03,030
climate lectures. This is for
people who have too much money

1566
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,870
who want to go on a little
adventure some go to Kilimanjaro

1567
01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:11,520
you know some pay rich guys with
so called spacecrafts and some

1568
01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:16,350
team up with these guys and by
the way, it's perfectly valid

1569
01:33:16,350 --> 01:33:20,790
nothing against that it's called
exciting tourism whatever it is,

1570
01:33:21,210 --> 01:33:25,770
and it's this is exactly what
the global warming climate

1571
01:33:25,770 --> 01:33:34,320
change scam is all about. It's a
scam I mean a scam not really a

1572
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,160
scam but you know it's

1573
01:33:35,340 --> 01:33:38,070
not a scam it's just an
expensive thing for rich guys.

1574
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:38,400
Yeah

1575
01:33:38,460 --> 01:33:40,410
18 So if you want

1576
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:43,920
you and your wife it'd be
$36,000

1577
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,920
And that does not include it
does include a full catering

1578
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:49,020
I'll see here the prices are I
gotta zoom in

1579
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,310
yeah what do you get for that
money? You

1580
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:54,450
gotta I'll tell you this little
the prices quoted above include

1581
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,390
all onboard ship accommodation
and full catering but does not

1582
01:33:57,390 --> 01:34:04,200
include laundry drinks. Hello.
Oh, money those guys. Hey, open

1583
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:04,680
imagine

1584
01:34:04,860 --> 01:34:07,530
you gave drinks away to this
drunk yeah, you'd have known

1585
01:34:07,530 --> 01:34:08,610
that you'd be go broke on

1586
01:34:08,610 --> 01:34:11,010
the deal. It also does not
include international or

1587
01:34:11,010 --> 01:34:14,940
domestic flights to their hotel
price drinks to course you want

1588
01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:17,850
a bottle of Mo a Yeah, that's
$70

1589
01:34:18,210 --> 01:34:20,430
Please that might be higher
might be more

1590
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,540
does not include visa or
personal travel insurance. And

1591
01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:28,020
you know, particularly for this
guy, the infant The Guardian,

1592
01:34:28,050 --> 01:34:32,820
The Guardian You're so sad that
you let this guy write an

1593
01:34:32,820 --> 01:34:37,440
article an op ed saying it
wasn't a tourist trip. Um, you

1594
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:41,040
see I actually I've read the
last bit of it here. Morale

1595
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,340
remained high. The media
interest helped twice daily

1596
01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:46,620
briefings on the situation were
accompanied by reports from the

1597
01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:49,680
media at home and overseas
interviews the team gave

1598
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,530
provided a chance to reassure
those at home that all were well

1599
01:34:52,530 --> 01:34:55,980
of course their their meal
ticket, the rich azules were on

1600
01:34:55,980 --> 01:35:00,120
the boat don't kill them. Or
maybe By

1601
01:35:01,829 --> 01:35:02,639
the time a day,

1602
01:35:02,670 --> 01:35:05,250
but they also described our
science work, much of which was

1603
01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:08,520
followed up online using the
expedition website and social

1604
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,430
media such as Google Plus,
Twitter, Vine and Facebook. In

1605
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:15,390
spite of the situation, we found
ourselves in the AAE had a

1606
01:35:15,390 --> 01:35:19,320
conversation with the public
about science, exploration. And

1607
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,740
Mohsen there really does remain
a passion for the subject.

1608
01:35:22,740 --> 01:35:25,710
Sadly, though, there seems to be
a few people who have just

1609
01:35:25,710 --> 01:35:29,730
caught the last few days of the
conversation. That will be us.

1610
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:31,620
That's definitely us.

1611
01:35:31,799 --> 01:35:38,609
That will be us. vs. Yeah. So
essentially, they even said that

1612
01:35:38,609 --> 01:35:46,589
they we they continue to give
talks and lectures on board

1613
01:35:46,619 --> 01:35:50,969
because this is it's what you
do. My Uncle Pete took a trip.

1614
01:35:50,999 --> 01:35:53,309
He was like, it was like the
ambassador's meeting or

1615
01:35:53,309 --> 01:35:57,359
something. It's a State
Department organised thing, and

1616
01:35:57,359 --> 01:36:00,509
they get a whole bunch of
ambassadors and friends, of

1617
01:36:00,509 --> 01:36:02,969
course, and lobbyists and god
knows what else and they they

1618
01:36:02,969 --> 01:36:07,769
get a beautiful ask boat, a
beautiful, private luxury yacht,

1619
01:36:07,769 --> 01:36:11,609
but a big one that looks like a
mini cruiser. And they go around

1620
01:36:11,609 --> 01:36:15,179
Spain, and this is entertainment
and there's networking. And then

1621
01:36:15,179 --> 01:36:18,569
yeah, my uncle that the pay a
dime is how it works in this

1622
01:36:18,569 --> 01:36:22,559
case. Now the punters themselves
paid for it.

1623
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,190
Yeah, well, that's what these
things are.

1624
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:32,670
To let let's just let's not,
let's not lie about it. And you

1625
01:36:32,670 --> 01:36:34,530
know, and it's a good it's a
good idea.

1626
01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:37,110
Yeah, they're promoting it.

1627
01:36:37,140 --> 01:36:39,390
They're gonna go down to the
confined the old huts. It's

1628
01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:43,860
exciting. It is just like we're
gonna and they got their Mo who

1629
01:36:43,860 --> 01:36:45,930
paid for getting the chopper to
take them out of there. They

1630
01:36:45,930 --> 01:36:49,860
gotta get a big bill at the end
of the day. Yeah. I guess maybe

1631
01:36:49,860 --> 01:36:51,870
traveler's insurance would cover
that or,

1632
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:59,580
or, Hey, Mr. Curry, and Dvorak.
Yep. So little unexpected thing

1633
01:36:59,580 --> 01:37:01,530
here. We're caught in the ice.
But you know, for an extra

1634
01:37:01,530 --> 01:37:03,900
10,000 We can chopper you off.

1635
01:37:06,030 --> 01:37:09,660
Or you can wait it out. Yeah,
that's how I do it. Yeah, that's

1636
01:37:09,660 --> 01:37:09,990
probably

1637
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,600
just like the Linux Cruise is
the same thing. It's all the

1638
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,560
same thing. It's just for rich
people. That's fine. There's

1639
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,920
this guy in Holland. He has he
also now has a one of these

1640
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:24,060
spaces, rocket scams, and he set
it up on karoq Curacao, where

1641
01:37:24,060 --> 01:37:27,960
there is a sports space port or
whatever. Any of you hire one of

1642
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,470
the guys who's been in the in
this in the in the sky lab or

1643
01:37:31,470 --> 01:37:34,650
the space station or some, you
know, one of the astronauts

1644
01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:37,470
whose name you never know, you
know? Oh, yeah, he was on

1645
01:37:37,470 --> 01:37:41,760
mission 29 And he's your guy and
you let him do some speeches and

1646
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,790
you charge everyone 50,000 And
they get a spot on the rocket

1647
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:48,390
ship when it's ready. You give
everybody jackets that says my

1648
01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:51,630
other cars are rocket ship. And
not kidding. I'm not kidding

1649
01:37:51,630 --> 01:37:56,250
you. This is this is really this
is true. And then everyone gets

1650
01:37:56,250 --> 01:37:56,370
the

1651
01:37:56,820 --> 01:38:00,960
other cars are right. Yeah. And
so douche bag.

1652
01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:05,670
Yes. And people were like Oh,
yeah. And then

1653
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,640
this is what has come to this is
why we haven't had a full

1654
01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:12,390
economic collapse because this
sort of thing would be out. This

1655
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:14,880
gets all depression stuff
everything you're telling me

1656
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,690
it's just all earmarks. You know
the dekat ends on the with the

1657
01:38:18,690 --> 01:38:20,910
people with the money and
everyone else starving to death.

1658
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,400
And of course then there's the
deep freeze let's play a couple

1659
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,340
of these clips so we get them
out of the way. Deep just start

1660
01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:30,270
with this is our thesis about
global cooling play Deep Freeze

1661
01:38:30,270 --> 01:38:30,990
USA.

1662
01:38:32,460 --> 01:38:35,400
dire warnings about a deep
freeze expected to hit the

1663
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,700
Midwest, New England and even
the South. Some meteorologist

1664
01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:41,730
say parts of the country could
see near record or record

1665
01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:46,410
breaking lows. The forecasts are
so alarming that an entire state

1666
01:38:46,410 --> 01:38:49,350
has said there will be no school
on Monday.

1667
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,610
Make sure that cup gets nice and
hot. A cup of boiling water

1668
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:58,290
through a frigid northern Canada
night. That's how cold it is in

1669
01:38:58,290 --> 01:39:03,690
Canada and more cold on its way.
It's called the polar vortex. In

1670
01:39:03,690 --> 01:39:07,410
a model it's a rainbow swirl of
neon purples and blues and

1671
01:39:07,410 --> 01:39:13,350
greens. But on the ground it's
punishing and dangerous cold air

1672
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:17,100
from the Arctic. This after snow
in the Northeast in some places

1673
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:21,360
up to two feet. At least 16
people were killed many in car

1674
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:25,170
crashes. Three others from
exposure to the extreme cold.

1675
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,470
The National Weather Service
says Come tomorrow night parts

1676
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:31,140
of Minnesota could see a
temperature dip to a mind

1677
01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:36,780
boggling 55 below. flesh can
freeze in minutes at 35 below.

1678
01:39:36,930 --> 01:39:40,440
So schools will be closed Monday
throughout the entire state

1679
01:39:40,710 --> 01:39:43,530
for kind of whether we're in
five minutes 10 minutes kids can

1680
01:39:43,530 --> 01:39:46,950
get significant frostbite and
the governor I want to ensure

1681
01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:47,940
that all kids are safe.

1682
01:39:48,389 --> 01:39:50,759
I love that swirl thing that
sounded hot.

1683
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:54,630
You know it seems to me that
this is much more dig over the

1684
01:39:54,630 --> 01:39:57,870
taking the side of global
cooling and a new ice age is

1685
01:39:57,870 --> 01:39:59,130
much more fun.

1686
01:39:59,219 --> 01:40:01,229
Yeah, you dialogue quicker?

1687
01:40:01,470 --> 01:40:05,700
It's it's just more interesting.
And of course, then it is, don't

1688
01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:06,270
you think?

1689
01:40:06,660 --> 01:40:10,440
Well, I'm just waiting any day
now I'm waiting for it to flip.

1690
01:40:10,860 --> 01:40:15,210
And you know what? The people
will go along? This is this is

1691
01:40:15,210 --> 01:40:18,780
so idiotic. Okay, you can put
this in the book within the next

1692
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:22,470
five years, some this will flip
and it will all be about, of

1693
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:25,050
course, the global warming
created the global the global

1694
01:40:25,050 --> 01:40:28,860
cooling, and that's why we're in
the mini ice age, right? I mean,

1695
01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:32,580
you can see it on that day, you
can see it happening and

1696
01:40:32,580 --> 01:40:35,880
everyone will be all on board
and the next IPCC report will be

1697
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,550
all we're all gonna die from
frostbite because of the global

1698
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:41,610
warming and people will go Yeah,
that makes sense.

1699
01:40:41,970 --> 01:40:45,390
They will know they will do
whatever they're told they'll do

1700
01:40:45,390 --> 01:40:48,900
it. Meanwhile, of course, and I
was gonna bring this up earlier,

1701
01:40:48,930 --> 01:40:51,330
they had to have a little piece
to it because it's going to be

1702
01:40:51,330 --> 01:40:54,840
freezing in North Alabama too,
apparently. So like all good

1703
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,080
news reporters and all good news
and all good packages. And this

1704
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,480
came out of a package obviously
because you're not going to send

1705
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:05,100
somebody from Oakland to you
know, some hick town in Alabama

1706
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:06,390
to ask somebody what they're
gonna pay

1707
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:07,740
Hey, easy on Alabama. It's

1708
01:41:07,740 --> 01:41:10,530
not a hiccup Well, no, I'm just
saying this is a hick town that

1709
01:41:10,530 --> 01:41:13,800
they went to and and because
when you're gonna do any of

1710
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,620
these stories, you got to find
the dumbest guy you can because

1711
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:20,700
we have to get this out please.
They didn't Texas all the time.

1712
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:25,470
California story about a Texas
you find a toothless guy

1713
01:41:25,470 --> 01:41:29,010
somewhere roaming around and you
interview him yeah, here's

1714
01:41:29,010 --> 01:41:31,860
the interview hates them
homosexuals in them black

1715
01:41:31,860 --> 01:41:32,400
people.

1716
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:36,630
So you find somebody in Alabama
and they found some some woman

1717
01:41:36,630 --> 01:41:40,560
who lives in a in a shack and
all she has is kin would Caitlyn

1718
01:41:40,890 --> 01:41:44,340
is called is expected to reach
into the deep south all the way

1719
01:41:44,340 --> 01:41:48,450
to Jasper, Alabama and Tijuana
Blaze his house. We hate with

1720
01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:51,750
wooden nets that we eat with
this wooden kindling

1721
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:57,510
you know you guys in California
should be shot for that. That's

1722
01:41:57,510 --> 01:42:00,660
really offensive. We hate with
wood. That's all we got

1723
01:42:00,660 --> 01:42:01,980
kindling, we might have.

1724
01:42:02,610 --> 01:42:08,190
If the kindling runs out, we're
done. I might have been last

1725
01:42:08,190 --> 01:42:09,480
year and in a cold day

1726
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:12,270
might have to break the wooden
tires off my kid's bicycle. And

1727
01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:14,940
when he used that as kindling
wood and might have to take my

1728
01:42:14,970 --> 01:42:18,840
my wooden leg off. You know, the
one I got the wooden leg might

1729
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,390
have to he might burn Purdy for
a little while we at least have

1730
01:42:21,390 --> 01:42:25,140
some kindling for the cold
night. Now, what they're doing

1731
01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:27,240
now. Now here's the here's what
you'll see over the next few

1732
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:31,890
days. Because of course, it is
summer in Australia. And because

1733
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:37,710
of urbanisation. And the way you
know, natural burning no longer

1734
01:42:37,710 --> 01:42:41,070
occurs. And we have proof of
this. And the fact that the

1735
01:42:41,070 --> 01:42:45,180
military started the fires that
are that were raging down there.

1736
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,410
They're going to say well, no,
no, this is all extremes. We

1737
01:42:49,410 --> 01:42:53,520
have minus 56. in Manitoba, but
in Australia, in the outback.

1738
01:42:53,550 --> 01:42:58,680
It's you know, it's plus 120. So
clearly the earth is confused

1739
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,820
and global climate change and
everything. It's we can't win

1740
01:43:02,820 --> 01:43:03,600
this debate.

1741
01:43:04,830 --> 01:43:06,810
We don't have to it's just good
material,

1742
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:10,920
right? It's damn good material.
It's damn good. I'm amazed that

1743
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,820
people haven't lynched us over
this. I'm amazed that you're

1744
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:18,120
allowed in many buildings.
Because of your stance.

1745
01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:25,470
wear a sweater or anything it
says global warming. bullcrap.

1746
01:43:25,470 --> 01:43:25,770
Can

1747
01:43:25,770 --> 01:43:29,700
somebody please knit John a
sweater? It says global warming

1748
01:43:29,700 --> 01:43:30,660
is bullcrap.

1749
01:43:32,820 --> 01:43:35,160
I do have a lot of I do have
friends though that are not

1750
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,040
obviously none of them listen to
no agenda these certain but why

1751
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:38,280
would

1752
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,320
a friend of course not. They
should burn books while they're

1753
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:40,680
at it.

1754
01:43:41,490 --> 01:43:45,000
They say I don't know how you
can buy into that. It's just a

1755
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,710
Republican propaganda. What?

1756
01:43:46,740 --> 01:43:51,810
No, no, no, no, no, no, my
favourite is the oil and gas

1757
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:56,100
industry. Billions of dollars
billions of dollars to bloggers

1758
01:43:56,100 --> 01:44:00,840
everywhere. I'm like, Okay,
where's my money? Where's my

1759
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:05,190
dough? Yeah, this is the end if
you really look at the numbers

1760
01:44:05,250 --> 01:44:09,390
know there's billions going into
pro global warming climate

1761
01:44:09,390 --> 01:44:13,710
change research. Very little
going into any anti but no, the

1762
01:44:13,740 --> 01:44:17,790
oil that the Koch brothers, they
give billions to bloggers and

1763
01:44:17,790 --> 01:44:23,220
alternative media to did create
conspiracy theories. I you know,

1764
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:28,140
I fit the birthday. How come
they have not a single dime? I'd

1765
01:44:28,140 --> 01:44:31,980
gladly take. I'll take some
money from those guys. Oh, yeah.

1766
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:33,540
Zero.

1767
01:44:34,170 --> 01:44:36,660
Yeah. And that's the way it's
going to stay.

1768
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:42,360
Meanwhile, the actual money from
the oil and gas industry is

1769
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:48,270
going into funding tonnes of
little nonprofits. And this is

1770
01:44:48,270 --> 01:44:52,770
now starting to leak through so
and it's all anti nuclear. And

1771
01:44:52,770 --> 01:44:55,500
nuclear. Of course, if you
really are an environment that

1772
01:44:55,500 --> 01:44:55,920
convinced

1773
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,490
us to complete this the industry
as a whole I think it's a subset

1774
01:44:59,490 --> 01:45:02,700
of the Indus She personally I
think it's a subset of the

1775
01:45:02,700 --> 01:45:07,560
industry that's specific to the,
to the gas people, the gas guys

1776
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:12,390
the T Boone Pickens types. Um, I
don't think the hard oil

1777
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:15,150
drillers the guys who are
pulling crude out of the earth

1778
01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:18,720
really care that much they know
that they have a product that's

1779
01:45:18,750 --> 01:45:21,750
very useful for a lot of
different things much more so

1780
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:26,640
than gas I might add. And they
don't see us for they got they

1781
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,710
got to come up with new
technology

1782
01:45:28,710 --> 01:45:31,800
think as a whole a bit right
now. This is another thing that

1783
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,650
really doesn't matter because we
have something called the

1784
01:45:34,650 --> 01:45:38,070
Hiroshima syndrome. There's
actually a great blog by a

1785
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:43,470
former nuclear plant operator
who's retired now it's Hiroshima

1786
01:45:43,530 --> 01:45:50,040
syndrome.com or.org. And he
really debunks a lot of the bull

1787
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:54,000
crap about the stuff that we're
seeing now even this is my

1788
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,210
favourite underground nuclear
explosion that crippled Japan

1789
01:45:57,210 --> 01:46:01,920
atomic plant shocks the world
bullshit there's not there's no

1790
01:46:01,950 --> 01:46:05,910
no underground nuclear
explosion. So this is part this

1791
01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:09,270
is where the propaganda starts.
Where did you get that? It's Oh,

1792
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:12,930
it's been emailed to me 10 Time
doesn't matter it's it's comes

1793
01:46:12,930 --> 01:46:16,230
from one site EU times and any
other sites

1794
01:46:16,230 --> 01:46:18,210
amount of times is the Boers
bullshit.

1795
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,180
Now, the one that I've been
holding back on that I

1796
01:46:21,180 --> 01:46:26,670
researched when it first started
and and immediately saw how lame

1797
01:46:26,670 --> 01:46:32,640
it was, is the sailors who are
who claimed that they got

1798
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:37,680
radiation poisoning from the
clean up. And the guy who was

1799
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:42,900
bought into this big time and he
he actually has Kevin camps on

1800
01:46:42,900 --> 01:46:47,130
his show from beyond nuclear.
And beyond nuclear this is this

1801
01:46:47,130 --> 01:46:53,220
is a nonprofit, who it's filled
with people who are have been

1802
01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:59,850
like Arnie Gunderson longtime
anti nuke people, they most

1803
01:46:59,850 --> 01:47:03,810
definitely get funding from some
industry probably you may be gas

1804
01:47:03,810 --> 01:47:07,920
doesn't matter that it's their
job to make you afraid. And he

1805
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,490
has this complete content free
discussion with Tom Hartman,

1806
01:47:11,580 --> 01:47:18,240
your buddy thumb on our T, which
it's laughable. It's I mean,

1807
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,270
it's completely laughable, but
But it starts in these types of

1808
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:26,820
programming and you get a guy
like thumb, the semi quasi the,

1809
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:28,620
what would you call him? He's
always

1810
01:47:28,620 --> 01:47:31,200
he's really on the progressive
libertarian.

1811
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,080
Yeah, there you go. And he
really thinks that he's that he

1812
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,410
knows everything. And he's got
some science chops and whatever.

1813
01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:43,470
So briefly, this lawsuit, which,
which was filed in 2012, was

1814
01:47:43,470 --> 01:47:47,370
thrown out, because there was no
evidence that any of the claims

1815
01:47:47,370 --> 01:47:51,360
were true was thrown out of
court. And here and now the

1816
01:47:51,390 --> 01:47:55,560
lawyer who was working for it
was really only a husband and

1817
01:47:55,560 --> 01:48:00,870
wife. But you know, there's this
so called talk of 70 sailors who

1818
01:48:00,870 --> 01:48:03,300
are joining in a class action
which there's no evidence of any

1819
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:07,770
class action or refile but okay.
That apparently they got

1820
01:48:07,770 --> 01:48:11,130
radiation sickness. And so
here's this Kevin camp, his only

1821
01:48:11,130 --> 01:48:15,030
job is to make people afraid of
nuclear energy. That's his only

1822
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:18,180
job and he has no no knowledge
of what he's talking about. And

1823
01:48:18,180 --> 01:48:19,920
Tom Hartman is all in.

1824
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:24,390
In the best of the rest of the
news, US Navy sailors onboard

1825
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:27,210
the USS Ronald Reagan, were some
of the first Americans to

1826
01:48:27,210 --> 01:48:30,870
respond to the tsunami and
nuclear disaster in Fukushima,

1827
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:35,700
Japan. 2011. Now they're suing
TEPCO, the company in charge of

1828
01:48:35,700 --> 01:48:40,530
the stricken Fukushima Daiichi
nuclear power plant. At least 71

1829
01:48:40,530 --> 01:48:43,860
sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan
have reported radiation

1830
01:48:43,860 --> 01:48:47,430
sickness, and is suing TEPCO
alleging that the company

1831
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:51,600
knowingly downplayed the dangers
of nuclear radiation at that

1832
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:52,470
Fukushima site.

1833
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:56,640
Now Tom here is reading almost
verbatim from the websites I've

1834
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:01,380
seen about this. They have not
filed saying they had radiation

1835
01:49:01,380 --> 01:49:04,470
sickness, that is a lie. They
are saying they the plaintiff

1836
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:08,670
say they suffered a number of
post accident ailments including

1837
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,960
rectal bleeding,
gastrointestinal distress, hair

1838
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:18,450
loss, headaches and fatigue.
Some allege it has not been

1839
01:49:18,450 --> 01:49:22,380
there's no doctors reports,
thyroid and gallbladder cancer.

1840
01:49:23,220 --> 01:49:25,920
Now the only thing you can get
from radiation exposure is hair

1841
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,400
loss and thyroid cancer and the
cancer takes years to set in

1842
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:35,010
years. And we know this from the
50 or 60 cases from Chernobyl.

1843
01:49:35,310 --> 01:49:38,490
And this is all historic this is
real historical fact as per like

1844
01:49:38,490 --> 01:49:43,260
some real reporting and real
organisations, not just some

1845
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:43,950
bullshit,

1846
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:47,640
although 71 sailors at least
half now have some form of

1847
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,230
cancer, according to a lawyer

1848
01:49:49,230 --> 01:49:52,020
representing according to the
lawyer representative not not to

1849
01:49:52,020 --> 01:49:53,340
any official and other

1850
01:49:53,340 --> 01:49:55,920
sailors are dealing with thyroid
and reproductive health

1851
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:56,550
problems,

1852
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,700
reproductive health problems
what what

1853
01:50:00,330 --> 01:50:04,380
So did TEPCO knowingly mislead
the world about the radioactive

1854
01:50:04,380 --> 01:50:07,680
dangers at Fukushima immediately
following the devastating

1855
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,220
tsunami? And could this lawsuit
be the first of many to come?

1856
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,970
Joining me now for more on this
is Kevin camps radioactive waste

1857
01:50:14,970 --> 01:50:16,950
watchdog at beyond nuclear Kevin

1858
01:50:17,129 --> 01:50:22,259
radio active waste watchdog
doesn't get any better, John,

1859
01:50:23,700 --> 01:50:25,170
to astonishing welcome back.

1860
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,960
Thanks, Tom. It's always nice to
see you. Thank you. So what's

1861
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,900
the story? I think I've seen
absolutely no coverage of this

1862
01:50:30,900 --> 01:50:32,130
in any American media.

1863
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,840
No, because it's bullshit.

1864
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:39,000
So, you know, we do I want to
stop here on this show. I want

1865
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,820
to remind people we actually
cover stuff that's not covered

1866
01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:45,180
by the mainstream media that
that that has some substance.

1867
01:50:45,810 --> 01:50:50,370
Yeah, we're not covering just
hysterical nonsense.

1868
01:50:50,910 --> 01:50:55,830
No. Which and if you do any
research, we have five minutes,

1869
01:50:56,190 --> 01:50:59,880
you can find the lawsuit that
was filed is not 70 people, it

1870
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:05,610
was to husband and wife. They
have no medical evidence. You

1871
01:51:05,610 --> 01:51:11,220
know, it is absolutely true.
That the the helicopters that

1872
01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:15,960
came back from rescue missions,
the because these ships have

1873
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,660
detectors, by the way, it's not
like just like, oh, boy, it

1874
01:51:18,660 --> 01:51:21,120
looks like well, it's some
radiation, I didn't know. You

1875
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,850
know, the dosimeters on the on
the aircrew, everything they

1876
01:51:23,850 --> 01:51:27,750
came back, and they absolutely
had radiation contamination,

1877
01:51:28,020 --> 01:51:32,640
which equaled 25% of what a
human being absorbed in one year

1878
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,970
of life. So nothing that would
kill them, but they gotta be a

1879
01:51:35,970 --> 01:51:38,520
little East. They gotta go easy.
Because you know, it is

1880
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,070
cumulative. So they can't go,
you know, they couldn't go back.

1881
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,040
But it's not like people came
back and we're, you know,

1882
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,620
throwing up and dying and
turning green, which, of course,

1883
01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:49,710
is what we want you to think
this is part of the Hiroshima

1884
01:51:49,740 --> 01:51:50,460
syndrome.

1885
01:51:50,490 --> 01:51:54,240
Is it actually real that the
soldiers aboard the USS Ronald

1886
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:58,890
Reagan, off the coast of Japan
when when Fukushima melted down,

1887
01:51:58,980 --> 01:52:01,440
did not melt down ly were
exposed

1888
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:04,590
to high levels of radiation?
Well, it's a shocking story. And

1889
01:52:04,590 --> 01:52:07,800
I first learned shocking story
about last March 11, which was

1890
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,890
the second anniversary of the
Fukushima catastrophe beginning

1891
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,640
in 2011. Two that they had kept
this very for two years, two of

1892
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,250
the sailors came to a big
gathering in New York City to

1893
01:52:17,250 --> 01:52:20,370
mark the anniversary. And they
were suffering health effects

1894
01:52:20,370 --> 01:52:22,260
from their service onboard the
Reagan,

1895
01:52:22,290 --> 01:52:25,020
which could have been food
poisoning from what it sounds

1896
01:52:25,020 --> 01:52:25,410
like.

1897
01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:28,770
Turns out that the Reagan was
anchored just a mile or two off

1898
01:52:28,770 --> 01:52:32,400
of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear
power of 15 miles during the

1899
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,490
worst of the radioactivity
releases, which was news to me.

1900
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,000
I mean, I follow this as closely
as I can. Two years into this

1901
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,550
thing I find out that the Reagan
was that close to these

1902
01:52:41,550 --> 01:52:45,180
catastrophic radioactivity
releases. So the crew on board

1903
01:52:45,180 --> 01:52:49,440
that ship 5000 Plus sailors were
in harm's way for several long

1904
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:53,460
days on end, not worn by TEPCO
not worn by the Japanese

1905
01:52:53,460 --> 01:52:56,490
government not worn by the
United States government, which

1906
01:52:56,490 --> 01:52:59,550
had radiation detecting planes
flying all over northeastern

1907
01:52:59,550 --> 01:53:00,090
Japan.

1908
01:53:00,150 --> 01:53:04,890
I wonder when they when they
send the Navy to hostile places,

1909
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:08,520
do they warn them and say you
could get killed? Is that like a

1910
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,890
warning every single morning
every day seems

1911
01:53:10,890 --> 01:53:13,950
to indicate that and I love how
Pete may have to sign a

1912
01:53:13,950 --> 01:53:18,240
nondisclosure or one of these
indemnification documents

1913
01:53:18,660 --> 01:53:22,140
I love how people you know that
now say to me Oh, now you

1914
01:53:22,140 --> 01:53:25,530
believe the military all of a
sudden now I just do some

1915
01:53:25,530 --> 01:53:28,770
research and basic research. And
I just I just pick up the I

1916
01:53:28,770 --> 01:53:30,720
don't know like things like the
court filing you know, little

1917
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,600
things like that just so I can
get be educated and not believe

1918
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,470
bull crap, alternative media.
Even Snopes has said this is

1919
01:53:37,470 --> 01:53:41,190
false. And I don't believe
Snopes but yeah, that's that's

1920
01:53:41,190 --> 01:53:44,610
most people believe. Snopes.
Snopes. They know Snopes is his

1921
01:53:44,610 --> 01:53:44,940
realm.

1922
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:48,690
So you would think that an
aircraft carrier in this day of

1923
01:53:48,690 --> 01:53:51,900
dirty bombs and you know that
that

1924
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:57,420
day of dirty bombs Tom Hartman
Oh, I'm sorry. Did I miss a

1925
01:53:57,420 --> 01:53:58,590
dirty bomb? John?

1926
01:53:59,339 --> 01:54:01,919
I'm wondering what what dirty
bombs is he talking about this

1927
01:54:01,949 --> 01:54:03,089
these days of dirty

1928
01:54:03,450 --> 01:54:08,850
dirty bombs. Yeah. You know,
this is this is psychological

1929
01:54:08,850 --> 01:54:09,930
warfare people

1930
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,020
it would have radiation
detectors on the on the on the

1931
01:54:13,050 --> 01:54:17,250
ship. Well, some of the first
news that was really disturbing

1932
01:54:17,250 --> 01:54:19,800
in the first days of Fukushima
Daiichi was that the aircraft

1933
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:23,280
carrier detected radioactivity
on the helicopters coming back,

1934
01:54:23,610 --> 01:54:26,760
landing onboard the flight deck.
And so one of the sailors who's

1935
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,150
now stepped forward in a big way
was servicing those helicopters.

1936
01:54:30,180 --> 01:54:34,440
That's not true. The people who
stepped forward did not serve as

1937
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,470
those helicopters and this is
this is true. They had radiation

1938
01:54:37,470 --> 01:54:40,140
exposure and the levels were
very low. There's

1939
01:54:40,410 --> 01:54:44,340
another these sailors that I met
in New York, his name is Maurice

1940
01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:48,540
Ennis. He set off the radiation
monitors below deck down from

1941
01:54:48,540 --> 01:54:51,270
being on the flight deck. So
there were lots of indications

1942
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:53,760
that there was something
seriously wrong but they stayed

1943
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:54,990
in this contamination.

1944
01:54:55,290 --> 01:54:58,650
There were no contamination
plume, let's just listen to this

1945
01:54:58,980 --> 01:55:02,370
for days on end So they were
getting the radioactive gases

1946
01:55:02,370 --> 01:55:05,520
which they were radioactive
gases eating in. They were

1947
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:06,480
getting the fallout.

1948
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:11,490
So Fallout John there was
fallout from some explosion in

1949
01:55:11,490 --> 01:55:15,720
the atmosphere that was Fallout
and see the things people have

1950
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:20,760
so little understanding of this
material that even smart people

1951
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:25,110
who listen to our show buy into
this there isn't there's no

1952
01:55:25,110 --> 01:55:27,570
evidence and you don't know what
you're talking I'm not an expert

1953
01:55:27,570 --> 01:55:30,510
but I have gone to experts who
have no skin in the game other

1954
01:55:30,510 --> 01:55:34,710
than their expertise. Atomic rod
Adams is one he points me to

1955
01:55:34,710 --> 01:55:38,400
these other guys. And they're
all operators have been around

1956
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,130
and they're angry. They're angry
because they know that even if

1957
01:55:41,130 --> 01:55:43,500
there is a lot of these guys
actually believe in global

1958
01:55:43,500 --> 01:55:46,920
warming bullcrap. To which
bothers me, but they're saying,

1959
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:51,120
listen, global warming, if this
is real, this is the solution.

1960
01:55:51,780 --> 01:55:55,140
But you're being scared. And
let's just listen to thumb buy

1961
01:55:55,140 --> 01:55:55,950
ins funny now

1962
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,100
are being exposed that way. What
I didn't realise until this

1963
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:02,430
latest news about the relaunch
of this lawsuit against Tokyo

1964
01:56:02,430 --> 01:56:02,970
Electric

1965
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:07,320
is not a relaunch. This is not a
it's not a beta. It's not a

1966
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:11,520
startup. It's refiling after he
got thrown out of court,

1967
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,520
even the water that the sailors
were drinking was from their

1968
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,880
desalination system. So they
were getting the seawater that

1969
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:19,890
was contaminated with
radioactivity. It was being

1970
01:56:19,890 --> 01:56:20,760
desalinated

1971
01:56:20,820 --> 01:56:24,300
This is literally in like the EU
Times article about this to

1972
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:28,050
desalination systems couldn't
clear out the radioactive they

1973
01:56:28,050 --> 01:56:30,480
all got sick. They're all
drinking poisoned water by the

1974
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:30,840
ship

1975
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,300
and they were drinking it. They
were cooking with it, they were

1976
01:56:33,300 --> 01:56:41,640
showering with it. But those
salivation processes don't take

1977
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:44,100
out the radioactivity, right?
Because salt is a fairly large

1978
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:47,610
molecule. It's it's sodium and
chloride. And if you've got just

1979
01:56:47,610 --> 01:56:52,590
an individual atom as opposed to
a molecule or a particle of the

1980
01:56:52,590 --> 01:56:55,380
desalination is I gotta take it
out. I need special filters. You

1981
01:56:55,380 --> 01:56:58,680
can't get tritium out of water
period not as industrial is

1982
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,890
small it is. It's helium. Yeah,
it's hydrogen. They're having to

1983
01:57:01,890 --> 01:57:04,980
do active hydrogen. You need
special filtering to get out the

1984
01:57:04,980 --> 01:57:08,400
cesium to get out the strontium
none of that was taking place so

1985
01:57:08,700 --> 01:57:11,580
that ingestion pathway combined
with all the others could

1986
01:57:11,580 --> 01:57:13,860
account for some of these health
effects. Were saying.

1987
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:20,580
Oh my god, anyway, look at the
Hiroshima or Hiroshima Hiroshima

1988
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:25,320
syndrome, and you'll understand
much better what what radiation

1989
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:30,180
means? How? How CPMs really
translate into becquerels.

1990
01:57:30,810 --> 01:57:35,250
This is really sorry there's a
that was the most I would I

1991
01:57:35,250 --> 01:57:37,680
won't give you a clip of the day
because it's not a no single

1992
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,470
clip but that was was actually a
depressing

1993
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,740
one Why would did you find that
a depressing moment? Well, you

1994
01:57:46,740 --> 01:57:50,400
know, Psalm isn't, you know, is
not you know, he's some you

1995
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,550
think he's a little sceptical.
But if, but he is also a hook

1996
01:57:53,550 --> 01:57:57,720
line and sinker guy. When it
comes to these these kind you

1997
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:02,400
think a guy like that would
actually try to think a little

1998
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:06,720
bit instead of just knee jerk
his way right through this kind

1999
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,360
of thing, because it's on the
checklist of you know, liberal

2000
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:13,380
progressive that that nukes are
bad. And, you know, we have to

2001
01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:16,500
do what we have to do to get rid
of him and and so why are nukes

2002
01:58:16,500 --> 01:58:18,660
bad? Well, I don't really know
why they're bad. But this guy

2003
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:22,560
says something that sounds bad
to me. So I'm gonna nod my head

2004
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:26,910
and, and act like, you know,
like a bobblehead doll during

2005
01:58:26,910 --> 01:58:29,460
the whole thing. And it's just,
it's just something pathetic

2006
01:58:29,460 --> 01:58:32,700
about it. And it just, I mean,
this is the alternative media.

2007
01:58:32,730 --> 01:58:36,930
Yes. This is the prod This is
what what disappoints me that

2008
01:58:36,930 --> 01:58:42,780
people cannot see that they're
being played so expertly. And

2009
01:58:43,260 --> 01:58:46,020
alternative media and that would
include bloggers in this by the

2010
01:58:46,020 --> 01:58:50,490
way in this comment. I think
they are more susceptible. Yes.

2011
01:58:50,490 --> 01:58:54,600
Oh, yeah. To the real pros out
there who know how to spin stuff

2012
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,260
and get their point across and
and use the old who they won't

2013
01:58:58,260 --> 01:59:04,020
talk about this in the
mainstream media tricks. The

2014
01:59:04,020 --> 01:59:06,030
foreign they get a brand new
stuff out there. And there's a

2015
01:59:06,030 --> 01:59:09,270
lot of people that watch that
guy, and you know, democracy now

2016
01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:10,050
and the rest of those.

2017
01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:14,250
The funny thing the funny thing
to me is that the same people

2018
01:59:14,250 --> 01:59:18,330
who accused the alternative
media of being saturated by

2019
01:59:18,330 --> 01:59:22,740
money from the Koch brothers and
the FOSS, quote unquote, fossil

2020
01:59:22,770 --> 01:59:23,880
rich conservative media.

2021
01:59:24,750 --> 01:59:28,530
No, no, no, no blogs. Well,
okay. But let's just focus on

2022
01:59:28,530 --> 01:59:31,230
blogs. They're saying the oil
and gas industry which would be

2023
01:59:31,230 --> 01:59:36,150
Koch brothers to that they they
are, they fund the alternative

2024
01:59:36,150 --> 01:59:41,550
media to propagate these lies
about global warming. But when

2025
01:59:41,580 --> 01:59:48,120
you actually can point out that
here is funding coming from gas

2026
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:52,440
and oil companies, to these
organisations, these nonprofits

2027
01:59:52,530 --> 01:59:56,610
who then go out and propagate
anti nuclear stories based upon

2028
01:59:56,910 --> 02:00:02,010
the literally made up stories
Everyone's all in. It's like,

2029
02:00:02,010 --> 02:00:05,040
Yeah, but you know, I saw the
chart and you've seen you've

2030
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,830
seen this map right with the
little swirls of red and orange

2031
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:11,160
going from Japan towards
California. You've seen this

2032
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:12,180
map. It's all over the

2033
02:00:12,180 --> 02:00:15,090
web. Yeah, that phoney map,
you've talked about it before.

2034
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:15,990
That's what Snopes

2035
02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:18,210
actually debunked. They said,
this is not this is a map that

2036
02:00:18,210 --> 02:00:20,910
was from something else. And
nothing. There was tsunami wave

2037
02:00:20,910 --> 02:00:25,380
map, there wasn't even about
anything. And by the way,

2038
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:30,660
300,000 people became homeless
because of the actual disaster,

2039
02:00:30,660 --> 02:00:35,160
which was the tsunami. There are
five nuclear reactors in Japan

2040
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:40,740
begging to go back online.
Begging, please put us back

2041
02:00:40,740 --> 02:00:46,050
online, we can save the economy,
we can save Japan. Let us go

2042
02:00:46,050 --> 02:00:48,480
back online. Let us start
providing power instead of

2043
02:00:48,510 --> 02:00:53,040
importing gas from our chi
America. whose agenda is it?

2044
02:00:56,070 --> 02:01:04,110
back slash rant. Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so I'm just I'm a little

2045
02:01:04,620 --> 02:01:06,240
I can see our own chat room.

2046
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:12,600
The chat room is is usually the
chat room is very disappointing

2047
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:18,480
when it comes to this stuff.
Yeah. Well, luckily, the chat

2048
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:19,440
room was a minority.

2049
02:01:23,610 --> 02:01:25,230
Yeah, was a Yeah, was it? Well,
let's see.

2050
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,690
I have a few things being
discussed. You want to do this?

2051
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:34,110
The little, little kind of a
subtle thing that I picked up on

2052
02:01:34,110 --> 02:01:38,730
it, which is kind of leads into
my how we do our show. Okay.

2053
02:01:39,210 --> 02:01:41,970
This one, there's a there's a
series on PBS and I watch it

2054
02:01:41,970 --> 02:01:44,820
every so often, because it's
very interesting. It's about

2055
02:01:44,850 --> 02:01:47,280
it's called pioneers of
television. And they talk about,

2056
02:01:47,580 --> 02:01:50,670
you know, they go back and they
analyse Sid Caesar or Milton

2057
02:01:50,670 --> 02:01:53,130
Berle and how these, you know,
the changes that took place. In

2058
02:01:53,130 --> 02:01:55,770
this case, it was about variety
shows, and they went from one to

2059
02:01:55,770 --> 02:01:59,490
the other. They have the $64,000
question in this series, not in

2060
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:01,710
the I think so. Yeah. When I
show

2061
02:02:01,710 --> 02:02:04,350
era when I studied
communications and broadcasting,

2062
02:02:04,350 --> 02:02:08,040
which I did for an entire 90
days a college. That was one of

2063
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:14,190
the main things was how that
changed. Lying and fakeness. on

2064
02:02:14,190 --> 02:02:15,630
televisions. Yeah,

2065
02:02:15,660 --> 02:02:18,510
it changed it changed it chosen
the much more professional.

2066
02:02:18,780 --> 02:02:22,740
That's amateurish. Yes, exactly.
I mean, you don't have a ham

2067
02:02:22,740 --> 02:02:25,830
actor like Charles Van Doren
pretending to be thinking when

2068
02:02:25,830 --> 02:02:31,140
he knew the answer in advance.
This was about I think, probably

2069
02:02:31,140 --> 02:02:35,130
about the late 60s through the
70s, about how the influences of

2070
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:39,030
sponsors had a huge impact. And
he starts off with this clip

2071
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:42,360
about the Smothers Brothers. And
the Smothers Brothers had this

2072
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:46,860
tremendous comedy show. That was
ribbing the government about the

2073
02:02:46,860 --> 02:02:50,580
Vietnam War the whole time. They
were put on the air.

2074
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:52,470
What's the name of the troop?

2075
02:02:53,610 --> 02:02:54,630
The Smothers Brothers so

2076
02:02:54,630 --> 02:02:57,000
this Mother's I'm sorry, they
were rubbing the government

2077
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:58,200
about the Vietnam War.

2078
02:02:58,559 --> 02:02:59,399
Oh constantly.

2079
02:02:59,670 --> 02:03:02,100
I'm too young for this I really
wasn't in

2080
02:03:02,130 --> 02:03:04,950
I used to watch the shows
fantastic show is very funny

2081
02:03:05,190 --> 02:03:07,860
that did they had their their
regular act to two brothers you

2082
02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:11,340
know, bickering, but it was a
lot of war jokes, like lots of

2083
02:03:11,340 --> 02:03:15,450
war jokes, and but CBS had put
them on the air for one reason.

2084
02:03:15,810 --> 02:03:18,960
They figure these guys are
little all little AlTi little

2085
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:22,200
alternative that might pull some
audience away from the number

2086
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:25,860
one show on the network's which
was Bonanza, which was just

2087
02:03:25,890 --> 02:03:29,340
killing them, right. So the
Smothers Brothers Come on, and

2088
02:03:29,340 --> 02:03:35,400
they do a lot of very, by
today's standards, lame, edgy

2089
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:41,400
material. And they ended up
dethrone ng Bonanza because the

2090
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,760
public is eating this stuff up.
And here's the way it plays out.

2091
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:50,130
By the end of 1967, the brothers
had knocked Bonanza out of its

2092
02:03:50,130 --> 02:03:55,290
top spot. But their network
wasn't happy. And neither was

2093
02:03:55,290 --> 02:04:00,210
President Johnson, a personal
friend of CBS President Bill

2094
02:04:00,210 --> 02:04:06,030
Paley in 1969, despite good
ratings, the smothers were

2095
02:04:06,030 --> 02:04:06,930
summarily killed.

2096
02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:12,030
Well, that's still going on
today with Bill Gates just says,

2097
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:14,490
Just take that show off the air
and change it. It's just not the

2098
02:04:14,490 --> 02:04:17,490
president anymore. The money the
money goes direct.

2099
02:04:17,610 --> 02:04:21,420
It's just different. So we have
a couple more examples of this

2100
02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:23,970
in the window. The other two are
discussing because they involve

2101
02:04:23,970 --> 02:04:24,540
race.

2102
02:04:24,570 --> 02:04:28,650
Can I just interject one moment
there? Yeah, the way that was

2103
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:34,110
presented? I can do you mind if
I just play that again? Play it

2104
02:04:34,110 --> 02:04:37,860
because the music? Oh, yeah. And
the cadence and it because the

2105
02:04:37,860 --> 02:04:40,950
minute it goes to the sadness,
the music change listened

2106
02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:46,680
of 1967 the brothers had knocked
Bonanza out of its top spot. But

2107
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:52,080
their network wasn't happy. And
neither was President Johnson. A

2108
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:57,780
personal friend of CBS President
Bill Paley in 1960s, you

2109
02:04:57,780 --> 02:05:04,140
know that I can just hear in 60
or 70 years from now, even

2110
02:05:04,140 --> 02:05:07,680
though the best podcast in the
universe was killing it across

2111
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:12,300
the podcast nation, the
President was not happy. And

2112
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:16,140
after three months, Korean
Dvorak, whenever to be heard

2113
02:05:16,140 --> 02:05:16,530
from it,

2114
02:05:16,530 --> 02:05:20,700
you left out two key words. The
President was not happy Oh, and

2115
02:05:20,700 --> 02:05:21,780
called Pay Pal.

2116
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:26,970
He called. He called. He called
Pierre Omidyar. Chairman of

2117
02:05:26,970 --> 02:05:31,830
PayPal, within two months Korean
Dvorak would never heard from

2118
02:05:32,010 --> 02:05:32,670
again.

2119
02:05:34,110 --> 02:05:36,120
That's the way I see it.

2120
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:42,330
Even Bitcoin could not help the
men because their rent could not

2121
02:05:42,330 --> 02:05:44,430
be paid with the cryptocurrency.

2122
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:50,490
So the next group became race
oriented. The early shows that

2123
02:05:50,490 --> 02:05:53,400
you wouldn't put a black guy on
because Heaven forbid some that

2124
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:56,880
that person that's living off
kindling wood in Alabama, with

2125
02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:00,240
stop watching. And so again, it
was but again, this was the

2126
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:05,280
sponsors. So play the clip to
hear the Pat Boone clip.

2127
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:10,020
Variety hosts like Pat Boone,
we're always looking for the

2128
02:06:10,020 --> 02:06:14,340
best possible guest stars, many
of whom were African American.

2129
02:06:14,970 --> 02:06:19,380
And when Boone booked Harry
Belafonte, his sponsor said, No.

2130
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:21,840
I said, What are you talking
about? He's the biggest

2131
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:26,790
entertainer in the world. Yeah,
but he said, you know, he's sort

2132
02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:31,050
of politically active and a lot
of folks down south. And I said,

2133
02:06:31,050 --> 02:06:34,710
you're telling me, I gotta go
back to Harry Belafonte and say,

2134
02:06:34,710 --> 02:06:38,310
No, thanks. Because you're a
communist.

2135
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:41,790
Because the funny thing is, of
course, Pat Boone is extremely

2136
02:06:41,790 --> 02:06:44,910
conservative and he wanted to
book book Harry Belafonte on his

2137
02:06:44,910 --> 02:06:47,370
show, because he knew people
wanted to see him. But that's

2138
02:06:47,370 --> 02:06:50,850
but sponsors, the Overlord said
no, and that was the end of it.

2139
02:06:50,970 --> 02:06:53,160
And of course, now we have part
three where they actually tried

2140
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:56,430
to give a black guy a show, and
they couldn't get anyone to

2141
02:06:56,430 --> 02:06:56,700
because

2142
02:06:56,700 --> 02:06:58,230
this the Arsenio Hall Show,

2143
02:06:59,850 --> 02:07:05,850
went cold did get his own
Variety Show on NBC. But no

2144
02:07:05,850 --> 02:07:12,510
sponsor could be found. In an
unusual move, NBC then paid all

2145
02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:18,270
production costs itself, to give
Cole a positive start. He did

2146
02:07:18,270 --> 02:07:22,950
find an audience. But no sponsor
had the courage to step forward.

2147
02:07:23,670 --> 02:07:26,190
And the Nat King Cole show was
cancelled.

2148
02:07:30,210 --> 02:07:32,880
Yeah, but this is this is our
culture. This is the legacy.

2149
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,490
This is the history of broadcast
in America. This is

2150
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:38,400
and now you see what you have
what you get. And the reason

2151
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:42,060
that we survive on this show,
which is counter counter

2152
02:07:42,060 --> 02:07:45,870
intuitive to everything being
done on broadcasting, because we

2153
02:07:45,870 --> 02:07:48,990
don't kowtow to sponsors. We
don't have to deal with it. We

2154
02:07:48,990 --> 02:07:53,700
do have to have support from our
listeners, supporters,

2155
02:07:53,700 --> 02:07:59,220
producers, what we call them and
and every time I watched this,

2156
02:07:59,250 --> 02:08:02,760
this this history of
broadcasting showed these these

2157
02:08:03,030 --> 02:08:07,410
pioneers of broadcasting series.
This is a common theme. That is

2158
02:08:07,410 --> 02:08:11,130
just you. That's why the media,
the news media, especially on

2159
02:08:11,130 --> 02:08:14,310
television, is so milquetoast,
they won't talk about anything,

2160
02:08:14,340 --> 02:08:16,920
everything's politically
correct, or they're cowed by the

2161
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:20,280
advertisers. The system is
really upside down in the early

2162
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:24,240
days of most media. They would
intimidate the advertisers and

2163
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:26,730
make them go along with the
programme, but that turned

2164
02:08:26,730 --> 02:08:30,180
around sometime in the 40s or
50s. And the advertisers are

2165
02:08:30,180 --> 02:08:30,870
running everything.

2166
02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:37,230
Let me go meta on you. So here
is PBS, mind you PBS, who of

2167
02:08:37,230 --> 02:08:42,240
course, have commercial breaks
now every 15 minutes. He was

2168
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:47,400
PBS, too chickenshit to say
which sponsor they know which

2169
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:53,550
sponsor it was Why did you say
the sponsor who was sponsoring

2170
02:08:53,550 --> 02:08:57,060
the show? What was the name of
the company? They won't tell you

2171
02:08:57,780 --> 02:09:01,920
that's how sad it is that the
historical document about this

2172
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:10,740
racism, xenophobia and, and
commercial hijacking of public

2173
02:09:11,250 --> 02:09:14,670
property such as the airwaves It
can't even tell you who the

2174
02:09:14,670 --> 02:09:17,010
perpetrators were for fear

2175
02:09:17,610 --> 02:09:21,360
outstanding Great catch you're
absolutely right I should have

2176
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:25,380
got that myself. That is brings
it up beyond pathetic

2177
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:29,280
let's find let's find out who
was the sponsor and find out who

2178
02:09:29,309 --> 02:09:32,129
well we know who nobody
supported Nat King Cole so

2179
02:09:32,129 --> 02:09:34,199
there's no way to there's nobody
to point the finger at except

2180
02:09:34,229 --> 02:09:39,029
all advertised. Boom bad boom we
can find out and I think it's

2181
02:09:39,029 --> 02:09:41,849
pretty common knowledge about
this model.

2182
02:09:42,059 --> 02:09:51,449
Here we go. Oh, let me just go
to this is an easy one. Sponsors

2183
02:09:52,769 --> 02:09:58,649
okay. Oh, my goodness. See the
USA in your Chevrolet. General

2184
02:09:58,649 --> 02:10:00,839
Motors sponsored the patent
wouldn't show.

2185
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,670
You go. Oh, there you have it.

2186
02:10:05,670 --> 02:10:08,700
Do you think that General Motors
is an important advertiser these

2187
02:10:08,700 --> 02:10:10,320
days? Or PBS?

2188
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,800
Yes, I think I'm sure you know,
they've now that you mentioned

2189
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:15,810
I'm sure somebody actually
pulled that from

2190
02:10:15,810 --> 02:10:18,960
the show. It was probably in
some way. Some schlub had

2191
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:21,480
written it in and it got pulled
right out. Yeah.

2192
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:23,730
Now, we're not doing that.
That's a different company now.

2193
02:10:24,030 --> 02:10:26,790
Well, you know, it's a different
company. Now. It's not the same

2194
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:31,140
general motors that do they
wouldn't do that now. Hmm.

2195
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:32,850
Interesting. Let

2196
02:10:32,850 --> 02:10:36,330
me see who the Smothers Brothers
sponsors were. Even though that

2197
02:10:36,330 --> 02:10:37,860
was a little different. Yeah,
that

2198
02:10:37,860 --> 02:10:40,770
was different, because that was
the network. But there you go.

2199
02:10:40,770 --> 02:10:41,160
But this is

2200
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:48,990
exactly what it is. This is
exactly what it is. Well, isn't

2201
02:10:48,990 --> 02:10:52,050
that funny? When you think about
that? Yeah, I

2202
02:10:52,050 --> 02:10:54,930
don't know how funny it is. But
it's just it's a sorry, state of

2203
02:10:54,930 --> 02:10:57,330
affairs that we have to live
within. Anyway. So

2204
02:10:57,330 --> 02:11:00,030
that's why we're miles ahead.
You all who participate in

2205
02:11:00,030 --> 02:11:03,330
producing this programme are
part of something that is new,

2206
02:11:03,330 --> 02:11:06,540
something that is fresh,
something that is revolutionary,

2207
02:11:06,630 --> 02:11:10,290
it's so awesome. We'll never get
talked about until we're dead.

2208
02:11:10,350 --> 02:11:13,290
No awards, no, nothing. I just
want a little plaque somewhere.

2209
02:11:13,290 --> 02:11:14,700
That's all I want. I'm gonna
show

2210
02:11:14,700 --> 02:11:18,150
my mood by donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

2211
02:11:18,150 --> 02:11:20,160
who could do that, oh, yeah,
that'd be fun

2212
02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:32,280
Well, we, we have the support of
our producers, and that's

2213
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:37,350
probably as valuable as any
meaningless plaque. And we can

2214
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:38,670
also give ourselves an award Can

2215
02:11:38,670 --> 02:11:42,600
I can I can I, before we start,
I just this is this is another

2216
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:47,790
example of support from our we
get support in many many ways.

2217
02:11:47,790 --> 02:11:49,950
And this is actually also a
question at the same time, sir

2218
02:11:49,950 --> 02:11:52,800
Scott of the armoury, who was of
course donated to the to the

2219
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:57,390
show and as a night he lives
here in Austin and he said I've

2220
02:11:57,390 --> 02:11:59,550
got a package the other day and
actually he was sending me no

2221
02:11:59,550 --> 02:12:02,100
because he wants to know if you
want your package at the at the

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02:12:02,130 --> 02:12:05,460
the PIO box is Adam I finally
got a chance No,

2223
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:08,460
no, because if they take these
issues what have my post office

2224
02:12:08,460 --> 02:12:11,520
does, I got a I got a big box,
but if something comes in and

2225
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:15,750
they might remotely fit into the
box, they jam it into the box

2226
02:12:15,750 --> 02:12:16,950
and I can't get it out.

2227
02:12:17,430 --> 02:12:19,500
Oh, and then you have to use a
broom or something.

2228
02:12:19,530 --> 02:12:22,380
No, it's ridiculous at the push
it back onto the floor inside

2229
02:12:22,380 --> 02:12:25,680
the post office. That's
ridiculous. And then if it's too

2230
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:28,380
big, then they have to wait and
it's a little post office with a

2231
02:12:28,380 --> 02:12:31,860
long line. Oh no, it's so
Python. I'll get your email me

2232
02:12:31,860 --> 02:12:32,760
I'll get your real

2233
02:12:32,940 --> 02:12:37,800
alright. So he sent him a box
beautiful note with pictures

2234
02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:40,830
tonnes of pictures on this note.
I finally got a chance to go

2235
02:12:40,830 --> 02:12:43,050
hunting for the first time in
five years since I moved back to

2236
02:12:43,050 --> 02:12:45,930
AWS from Chicago. I took a very
nice dough the weekend before

2237
02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:50,430
Christmas. And he so he is
dressing this dough at his house

2238
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:53,520
and it's hung up in the garage.
It says the neighbours were

2239
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:55,830
surprisingly tolerant if you
actually came over and watched

2240
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:59,100
for a while I'm including a
quart of my signature venison

2241
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:01,920
and black bean chilli for you
and Mickey to enjoy on a cold

2242
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:05,610
Texas January night. This court
does not require refrigeration

2243
02:13:05,610 --> 02:13:07,410
has been pressure canned
according to the FDA

2244
02:13:07,410 --> 02:13:10,560
recommendations, so feel free to
save for later enjoyment. It's

2245
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:13,650
shelf stable for at least 24
months. I now have a full set of

2246
02:13:13,650 --> 02:13:16,560
venison Shanks, so another
dinner party may be an order

2247
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:19,890
soon. And he sends me this
picture and this is what I love

2248
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:23,550
this. One of the many reasons
but I love my wife so much.

2249
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:27,090
Because this picture shows the
deers hung up by the neck. It's

2250
02:13:27,090 --> 02:13:31,860
sad slit open, but it also shows
I mean it shows he has trays of

2251
02:13:31,860 --> 02:13:35,430
just the most beautiful meat
you've ever seen. It's he guys

2252
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:38,850
good. He knows what he's doing
this this animal is completely

2253
02:13:38,850 --> 02:13:42,120
stripped. And she's she was
taught how to field strip and

2254
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:45,120
deer as a child. So she's like,
wow, this is great. I can't wait

2255
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:49,230
to test it to taste it where I
know most people if i i In fact,

2256
02:13:49,470 --> 02:13:53,130
we have the Obama bot dinners at
ours on the 24th Here's what I'm

2257
02:13:53,130 --> 02:13:58,020
going to do. Here's a test. I'm
going to serve this and by the

2258
02:13:58,020 --> 02:14:02,460
way this product is made John is
outstanding. I'm going to serve

2259
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:06,780
this chip this venison black
bean chilli and just before I

2260
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:09,360
serve it I'm going to say oh
look, here's the pictures of the

2261
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:15,630
deer it came from and let's see
if they eat it. I guarantee you

2262
02:14:15,630 --> 02:14:19,230
they will I guarantee you one of
them will puke without even just

2263
02:14:21,300 --> 02:14:25,110
Oh anyway, this is another one I

2264
02:14:25,260 --> 02:14:28,500
think I don't think you have the
nerve to do what you just said.

2265
02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:32,910
What do I got to lose? The
professor's gone he's gone to

2266
02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,790
Stanford you gotta get get
Stanford. Yeah, you told us

2267
02:14:35,790 --> 02:14:41,130
this. Yeah, we got to lose
nothing. Anyway, that's one of

2268
02:14:41,130 --> 02:14:44,310
the many ways that we're
supported and is beautiful. This

2269
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:48,150
is something that is beyond Can
you imagine Don Lemon getting

2270
02:14:48,150 --> 02:14:52,980
this know he gets a bigger
paycheck though.

2271
02:14:52,980 --> 02:14:55,500
I'm sure we'll see. Yeah, John,
let me get so probably easily

2272
02:14:55,500 --> 02:14:56,520
over a million dollars a year

2273
02:14:56,670 --> 02:15:00,210
probably. Anyway, let's thank
some of our peeps here. We'll

2274
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:03,000
start with Kevin Benson over
there in Yowie Bay, New South

2275
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:07,350
Wales Australia 12345 Which is
nice. Yes, a note about that

2276
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:09,930
which you might want to read.
I'd like to coin a new donation

2277
02:15:09,930 --> 02:15:12,600
amount of 12345 which has been
done by a number of people,

2278
02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:15,810
which is an upbeat number as the
thank God I don't live in

2279
02:15:15,810 --> 02:15:23,040
America Okay, Google tells me
cook sure is a synonym for

2280
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:27,390
upbeat. So this is a challenge
to all the non us slaves if you

2281
02:15:27,390 --> 02:15:32,010
agree with this donate cook
shore 12345 may request the not

2282
02:15:32,010 --> 02:15:35,100
too distant future that you
played into noodles kid, maybe

2283
02:15:35,100 --> 02:15:39,060
we should start a no agenda
trust fund to pay for his I want

2284
02:15:39,060 --> 02:15:40,110
to be Kevin and sit.

2285
02:15:40,170 --> 02:15:42,060
Thank you, Kevin. It's highly
appreciate that's that's a

2286
02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:45,330
beautiful donation and we'll see
you if if the challenge is taken

2287
02:15:45,330 --> 02:15:46,440
up by any other people.

2288
02:15:48,390 --> 02:15:54,060
onward we have 111 11 Anonymous
in Arizona from ask the cobra,

2289
02:15:54,570 --> 02:15:58,380
who actually sent this in as a
check and he has a whole

2290
02:15:58,380 --> 02:16:02,070
letterhead with me it's all
elaborate actually, you know

2291
02:16:02,070 --> 02:16:06,120
it's some form of letterhead but
it's got a logo Acme widget

2292
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:11,670
company anonymous, Arizona FEMA
Region nine and it goes on. He

2293
02:16:11,670 --> 02:16:15,120
does have I'll read it since he
wrote it went to the trouble of

2294
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:18,300
sent mailing it boys had been
listening to show for a long

2295
02:16:18,300 --> 02:16:21,750
while fine decided to make my
first donation. Insert little

2296
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:24,570
girl yay. here over the years
I've listened to many Liberty

2297
02:16:24,570 --> 02:16:28,290
podcasts and drive my
significant other nuts with my

2298
02:16:28,290 --> 02:16:32,040
listening habits however, she
kindly refers to you to use as

2299
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:37,500
the boys and enjoys the show. A
game I like to play to see how

2300
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:39,870
long it takes me to mention Miss
Vicky.

2301
02:16:41,820 --> 02:16:45,150
Yeah, well that's never is
Vicki.

2302
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:48,330
I think he means Mickey. I think
so too. It usually happens

2303
02:16:48,330 --> 02:16:51,990
within the first 515 minutes
haha. Hey, you're both

2304
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:55,410
definitely not L seven. So
please accept this donation of

2305
02:16:55,410 --> 02:16:59,640
111 11 a John please make it
rain and kindly call it the

2306
02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:03,930
stage my girl Miss Roxy who do a
solo dancer yours truly.

2307
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:06,360
Are you prepared to do it make
it rain you didn't throw them

2308
02:17:06,390 --> 02:17:07,680
got I've got a bunch

2309
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:11,880
of backup dancers. And if you
don't get mentioned in this one

2310
02:17:11,880 --> 02:17:14,490
anybody so somehow I missed you
but I went back two or three

2311
02:17:14,490 --> 02:17:21,420
shows to catch the ones there's
only 1234 and five with Miss

2312
02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:26,490
Roxy. So I suppose I can get
myself up for this.

2313
02:17:28,650 --> 02:17:37,530
All right, you are going to go
club 33 online clubs 19. Hold

2314
02:17:37,530 --> 02:17:42,900
on, hold on. You gotta back off.
Yeah, we can't. Too much. A

2315
02:17:42,900 --> 02:17:47,340
little less distortion. I just
tried again.

2316
02:17:48,750 --> 02:17:55,320
Ready? Here we go. Online clubs
since 1943. It's time to roll

2317
02:17:55,320 --> 02:17:59,580
out to town for the Sunday note.
Club 33 And let's begin the long

2318
02:17:59,580 --> 02:18:04,290
journey by welcome to the stage
Trixie is to hang gliding

2319
02:18:04,290 --> 02:18:08,040
sports, fishing and pumpkin
carving. Or to carve out a dance

2320
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:11,340
for you Trixie over on stage Do
we have the hottest lady ever

2321
02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:14,730
grace club 33 We know you agree.
If you can even manage to sit

2322
02:18:14,730 --> 02:18:18,480
still I know I can't she's into
skiing skating and ice fishing

2323
02:18:18,720 --> 02:18:24,870
is fancy Francie thrower Aline
Francie, finishing off her act

2324
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:29,190
on the main stage obat mom Karen
and the bombshell will blow you

2325
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:32,370
away with a red pole dance
that's renowned throughout

2326
02:18:32,370 --> 02:18:35,550
Canada whether dancers role
vulcanize sorry, I meant to

2327
02:18:35,550 --> 02:18:39,570
unionised she gets equal pay and
equal applause give it up. But

2328
02:18:39,600 --> 02:18:43,710
calm Karen the union girl.
Finally the management is

2329
02:18:43,710 --> 02:18:48,540
calling out last year's Miss
club 33 Ms. Ruoxi foxy Roxy

2330
02:18:48,570 --> 02:18:51,960
under the champagne room to do a
solo dance for the horndog of

2331
02:18:51,960 --> 02:18:57,270
Arizona ASP the Cobra as usual,
no touching

2332
02:19:02,129 --> 02:19:10,769
I am speechless. I know. Club 33
needs to work on its acoustics.

2333
02:19:12,929 --> 02:19:15,569
See you out of the way you're
already on the verge of over

2334
02:19:15,569 --> 02:19:17,969
modulating was I mean I got it
to sound okay.

2335
02:19:18,299 --> 02:19:21,479
Okay. I just want to get that
that part time gig at the

2336
02:19:21,479 --> 02:19:22,019
Piccadilly

2337
02:19:22,050 --> 02:19:24,690
oh you're you're in there's no
doubt you're in you're good.

2338
02:19:24,690 --> 02:19:26,790
You're good to go. And this This
is your audition.

2339
02:19:28,799 --> 02:19:30,389
Yeah, this stuff.

2340
02:19:30,449 --> 02:19:35,969
Did you say Obama milk as she's
the old Obama Obama.

2341
02:19:36,660 --> 02:19:37,620
Oh, Mom.

2342
02:19:37,860 --> 02:19:46,800
Oh but mom Beautiful. Good work.
Thank you all to brought your

2343
02:19:46,830 --> 02:19:51,090
wives girlfriends ex wives on
stage here club 33. We certainly

2344
02:19:51,090 --> 02:19:54,510
I'm going to work on a little
bit more of imaging for you for

2345
02:19:54,510 --> 02:19:54,750
that.

2346
02:19:55,650 --> 02:19:56,610
You get the Echo was

2347
02:19:58,260 --> 02:19:59,550
believe me the Echo was

2348
02:19:59,550 --> 02:20:02,610
it All right, here we go. Let's
finish off our donor segment

2349
02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:06,870
with John C. Anderson Lafayette,
Louisiana $100 Richard Ballard

2350
02:20:06,870 --> 02:20:12,570
in all Burg Vermont 7777 sack of
sevens David Carr Dania in

2351
02:20:12,570 --> 02:20:18,030
Evergreen Colorado 7777 He sent
a note mailed one and so I

2352
02:20:18,030 --> 02:20:20,910
thought I'd take a look at it he
just a belated Merry Christmas

2353
02:20:21,150 --> 02:20:23,880
to you and your families. Thank
you for stepping in the media

2354
02:20:23,880 --> 02:20:32,250
and tracking it all over the
rugs. out that's nice. So he

2355
02:20:32,250 --> 02:20:36,450
gave us his value for value
donation. Charlie Brown Mesa,

2356
02:20:36,450 --> 02:20:41,040
Arizona 7373 6969.

2357
02:20:42,750 --> 02:20:43,770
Little resurgence.

2358
02:20:45,450 --> 02:20:48,660
Well, yeah, sure. I had to know
from Charlie but I can start

2359
02:20:48,660 --> 02:20:52,530
with Well, that's that's me just
read a little Charlie Charlie's

2360
02:20:52,530 --> 02:20:57,480
true. And close the donation
amount of 73 offset my last

2361
02:20:57,660 --> 02:21:00,990
reading in my an industrious ill
conceived emails new personal

2362
02:21:00,990 --> 02:21:03,330
rule, I can't pull my head out
of my ass and craft some

2363
02:21:03,330 --> 02:21:06,420
intellectual capital. I must
contribute to the show with some

2364
02:21:06,420 --> 02:21:10,230
monetary capital. I figured no
more than four minutes was

2365
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:14,760
wasted in all my emails. So that
hourly rate of 11,000 Oh, and

2366
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:18,510
$5.95 per hour. You guys are
expensive. Worth every penny.

2367
02:21:20,040 --> 02:21:23,940
Not sure what that note even
means. Okay. 6969 we got

2368
02:21:24,090 --> 02:21:31,110
starting with the mats. Because
rude. And spider Burg Norway. I

2369
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:34,080
think that is that's a toughy

2370
02:21:35,460 --> 02:21:39,660
kids rude. Kids right to kiss
kids. Yeah.

2371
02:21:41,700 --> 02:21:49,200
And hello, Norway. Are your
points please? In Austria 6969.

2372
02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:52,110
I thank you for your courage.
Please do this. No, we need to

2373
02:21:52,110 --> 02:21:55,020
read give his grandma some
karma. She slipped on the ice

2374
02:21:55,020 --> 02:22:02,550
and broke her leg. Oh. Wishes
smokin hot wife Palin. A happy

2375
02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:03,150
birthday. Yeah,

2376
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:06,720
she's on the list. Let me Oh,
and she's in Bangkok. He's in

2377
02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:09,570
Australia. So he'll store up the
swells enough karma you'll

2378
02:22:09,570 --> 02:22:12,120
you'll be able to collect later
on. And here's for grandma.

2379
02:22:12,270 --> 02:22:15,630
Karma for Iceland shot. Karma is
horrible.

2380
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:19,980
He says yeah, he says the best
thing she's the best thing

2381
02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:25,050
that's ever happened to him is
grandma. No, no. Okay, fiance,

2382
02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:33,420
David borg in Melbourne,
Australia. 6969. He calls us

2383
02:22:33,450 --> 02:22:37,440
Statler and Waldorf, which is
not new. Edward Hines,

2384
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:42,060
Jacksonville, Florida, sir Rick
Bressler in Arlington,

2385
02:22:42,060 --> 02:22:49,380
Washington. 16. I did. That's
it. I think with five we can go

2386
02:22:49,380 --> 02:22:54,960
without that's good. Okay. Chad
Smith, Murray, Utah is 5790 this

2387
02:22:54,960 --> 02:23:00,060
is we have a new thing here on
the spreadsheets. Adam, I asked

2388
02:23:00,060 --> 02:23:06,750
that shield. Eric. I visited his
house that he's building. Yeah,

2389
02:23:06,780 --> 02:23:08,490
Eric. Thanks huge.

2390
02:23:08,850 --> 02:23:10,830
It's forecast is 4000 square
feet.

2391
02:23:11,220 --> 02:23:13,740
It's a big house and he's
building it. He's built that

2392
02:23:13,740 --> 02:23:16,260
off of the money we pay him to
do this spreadsheet.

2393
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:22,590
Well. So we're looking for
douchebag call outs. And he has

2394
02:23:22,590 --> 02:23:29,160
one. He wants to call out his
buddy OT. This is Chad Smith at

2395
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:30,900
the 790 in Murray Utah.

2396
02:23:31,259 --> 02:23:33,539
And he costs his buddy ot as a

2397
02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:42,030
lease Stevenson and Stockholm,
Sweden. 5555 wants to call out

2398
02:23:42,330 --> 02:23:47,670
Marcelo two cats as a douchebag
oops. As you've been talking

2399
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:55,200
about donating, but his never
does. Oh no good. Michael como

2400
02:23:55,200 --> 02:24:01,980
5155 10 and Cold Harbour New
York. Kevin pain feels no 5069

2401
02:24:01,980 --> 02:24:06,030
in Richmond, Virginia, Chris
Whitten. Middleborough, Virginia

2402
02:24:06,030 --> 02:24:10,620
5050 Richard meek in
Minneapolis, Minnesota nuts

2403
02:24:10,980 --> 02:24:17,580
$50.01. These came in as checks.
And finally $50 donors from

2404
02:24:17,610 --> 02:24:22,080
Christopher Walker, Matthew
JENICE, zoo ski and Chicago.

2405
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:28,590
Babcock Calle Babcock Kaylene in
Japan. I have a mess on my

2406
02:24:28,590 --> 02:24:30,030
screen in terms of I have a mess
too. I

2407
02:24:30,030 --> 02:24:31,290
have no idea even Trotsky,

2408
02:24:31,290 --> 02:24:34,140
Romeoville. Illinois, Brett
Farrell, a good old Breton

2409
02:24:34,140 --> 02:24:37,920
Oklahoma City. Sir Alan being
over here in Oakland, California

2410
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:42,120
who's always good every month
comes in and bogged in lack and

2411
02:24:42,390 --> 02:24:46,320
lack and DRO in Irvine, Texas.
Could be latching DRO but I

2412
02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:49,410
think it's lacking in Irvine
Texas want to thank them and all

2413
02:24:49,410 --> 02:24:51,750
the other donors came with
lesser amounts for and sent

2414
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:55,710
notes and we read all your notes
not necessarily on the air. For

2415
02:24:55,710 --> 02:25:00,330
a show 580 reminds you we do
have 581 coming up on three Do

2416
02:25:00,330 --> 02:25:01,620
we need continued support?

2417
02:25:01,950 --> 02:25:04,620
Yes, thank you very much
everyone who donated and as

2418
02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:07,200
January said also those lesser
amounts most of them done for

2419
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:10,470
anonymity purposes but a lot of
you are on long term layaway

2420
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plans and these knighthoods do
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2430
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2431
02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:06,510
Go, we can take that Mark
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02:26:06,510 --> 02:26:09,480
Knight today. And we are very,
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2433
02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:11,910
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And we hereby proudly Nightbeat

2435
02:26:15,990 --> 02:26:18,690
Sir Mark bandwith night of the
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02:26:18,690 --> 02:26:22,290
got for you a bevvy of lovely
things that we got Cuban cigars

2437
02:26:22,290 --> 02:26:25,560
and single malt scotch, caviness
and Cabernet. They've got hot

2438
02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:28,320
librarians and Jager bombs,
opium and warm orange juice

2439
02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:31,050
hookers and blow of course,
three geishas in a bucket of

2440
02:26:31,050 --> 02:26:33,780
fried chicken. I mean, we just
bought him some bourbon vodka

2441
02:26:33,780 --> 02:26:37,260
and vanilla, or some sparkling
cider and escorts or maybe just

2442
02:26:37,260 --> 02:26:39,510
the mutton in Mead, and thank
you go to no agenda

2443
02:26:39,510 --> 02:26:44,280
nation.com/rings and get your
get your ring get your ring. I

2444
02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:47,370
would think we Eric said he had
the got the new rings in and new

2445
02:26:47,370 --> 02:26:50,430
sizes and everything gets the
rings of just continuing. People

2446
02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:51,150
like the rings.

2447
02:26:52,740 --> 02:26:55,440
Yeah, he's sending just gotta
get so catch up with all the

2448
02:26:55,650 --> 02:26:57,810
weird sizes that we ran out of.

2449
02:26:59,340 --> 02:27:01,170
Didn't we miss somebody?

2450
02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:05,370
Now, did we? Because it's always
possible.

2451
02:27:05,610 --> 02:27:09,060
I was talking here we go. More
than 15 minutes in the show.

2452
02:27:09,060 --> 02:27:12,150
Once again, I'll talk about my
wife. I have a saying today. Can

2453
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:17,460
you imagine? If someone proposed
this show somewhere else? He

2454
02:27:17,460 --> 02:27:20,460
would have not seriously it
would have five writers, you

2455
02:27:20,460 --> 02:27:24,870
know segment producers,
technologists, some one guy just

2456
02:27:24,870 --> 02:27:29,130
by himself to run a website,
someone to do all the shownotes

2457
02:27:29,880 --> 02:27:34,440
researchers fact checkers, and
all we'd have to do is show up

2458
02:27:34,980 --> 02:27:37,140
and just read the prompter and
we could get through it. We

2459
02:27:37,140 --> 02:27:40,080
could probably fake a lot of it.
We it would have the same

2460
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:41,400
topics.

2461
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:45,750
You just have but it'd be done
by other people. When the

2462
02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:49,350
writers like you said we could
dad live much of the show and

2463
02:27:49,350 --> 02:27:53,130
have that prompt to keep us on
track. Yeah, yeah, we could. We

2464
02:27:53,130 --> 02:27:55,320
could try. It'd be good.
Probably the budget about it.

2465
02:27:55,350 --> 02:27:58,500
It's about a $1.5 million budget
for sure. We got it.

2466
02:27:59,250 --> 02:28:02,190
I miss more than that. With five
writers.

2467
02:28:03,210 --> 02:28:07,950
Writers work for no N lessons.
Network show the writers don't

2468
02:28:07,950 --> 02:28:11,310
get paid that much. Does a five
writers are probably going to be

2469
02:28:11,310 --> 02:28:14,700
making 65 That's 300 grand

2470
02:28:14,730 --> 02:28:20,580
6565. Hey, um, let me there's a
couple of things that he did

2471
02:28:20,580 --> 02:28:23,820
talk about, you know, the the
intelligence community has the

2472
02:28:23,820 --> 02:28:27,540
ice on the record Tumblr site.
This was the transparency the

2473
02:28:27,540 --> 02:28:31,020
President asked them to do. And
so what they did is they created

2474
02:28:31,020 --> 02:28:34,530
a Tumblr site, apparently,
that's more of the people. And

2475
02:28:34,560 --> 02:28:37,440
so I of course, subscribe to the
feed. And this shows up in my

2476
02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:41,670
freedom controller aggregator
and so the main things that came

2477
02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:44,310
through January 3 was the
Foreign Intelligence

2478
02:28:44,310 --> 02:28:46,830
Surveillance Court approves
government's application to

2479
02:28:46,830 --> 02:28:52,020
renew telephony metadata
programme. So whatever Snowden

2480
02:28:52,020 --> 02:28:58,260
said, doesn't adhere because the
secret court, which only hears

2481
02:28:58,260 --> 02:29:01,320
one side of the argument has
said no, no, this is this is all

2482
02:29:01,320 --> 02:29:04,170
good. And what's interesting
here

2483
02:29:06,660 --> 02:29:09,180
when you get you kind of missing
the point here when like this

2484
02:29:09,180 --> 02:29:11,670
is, okay, we got to court in
certain session now, what would

2485
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:13,740
you like? We'd like to continue
the programme. Okay. Any

2486
02:29:13,740 --> 02:29:14,490
objections?

2487
02:29:15,330 --> 02:29:21,150
Yeah, good to go. Well, what I
like Jackson's no objections. I

2488
02:29:21,150 --> 02:29:23,880
like the language. They're using
the one several prior occasions,

2489
02:29:23,880 --> 02:29:26,550
the Director of National
Intelligence, that's Clapper has

2490
02:29:26,550 --> 02:29:29,160
declassified information about
the telephony metadata

2491
02:29:29,160 --> 02:29:31,560
collection programme under the
business records, blah, blah.

2492
02:29:31,980 --> 02:29:34,860
And in order to provide the
public a more thorough and

2493
02:29:34,860 --> 02:29:37,800
balanced understanding of the
programme, they're disclosing

2494
02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:41,880
the fact that the secret court
did what you just did. So thank

2495
02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:45,390
you for being so transparent.
Funny enough. At the end of this

2496
02:29:45,390 --> 02:29:48,030
little note, it says the
administration is undertaking a

2497
02:29:48,030 --> 02:29:52,470
declassification review of this
most most recent court order. So

2498
02:29:52,470 --> 02:29:54,810
we won't actually be able to
find out if that's exactly the

2499
02:29:54,810 --> 02:29:58,140
way it went or not, until they
decide whether they can

2500
02:29:58,170 --> 02:30:02,370
declassify it. You know, the
actual document that has been

2501
02:30:02,370 --> 02:30:07,260
declassified? Now as a bonus to
that, because they're so angry

2502
02:30:07,260 --> 02:30:10,350
about how this went down. They
sent a letter to the New York

2503
02:30:10,350 --> 02:30:16,050
Times. That is Robert S. Litt.
General Counsel for counsel for

2504
02:30:16,050 --> 02:30:18,720
the Office of the Director of
National Intelligence. So this

2505
02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:25,830
is clappers lawyer to the editor
Edward Snowden whistleblower

2506
02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:31,020
editorial January 2 repeats the
allegation that James R Clapper

2507
02:30:31,020 --> 02:30:36,120
Jr. That sounds like Does that
sound like Ray Parker Jr? who

2508
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:40,740
did Ghostbusters. James R.
Clapper Jr, the Director of

2509
02:30:40,740 --> 02:30:44,520
National Intelligence, quote
unquote lied to Congress about

2510
02:30:44,520 --> 02:30:47,880
the collection of bulk telephony
metadata as a witness to the

2511
02:30:47,880 --> 02:30:50,790
relevant events and a
participant in them. I know that

2512
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:53,970
allegation is not true. So
they're really pissed about

2513
02:30:53,970 --> 02:30:57,690
this. And I'm going to this is a
short note is interesting.

2514
02:30:58,290 --> 02:31:01,620
Senator Ron Wyden asked about
collection of information on

2515
02:31:01,620 --> 02:31:04,710
American clip, I'm gonna play
the clip in a minute, but let's

2516
02:31:05,010 --> 02:31:07,230
you want to play the clip first
and then hear their rebuttal.

2517
02:31:07,230 --> 02:31:07,800
Yeah, let's play

2518
02:31:07,800 --> 02:31:10,320
the clip first. So people get
familiarise themselves with

2519
02:31:10,350 --> 02:31:11,910
exactly what happened. No, no, I

2520
02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:14,610
think I think it's more
interesting to read what they're

2521
02:31:14,610 --> 02:31:17,010
saying first, because then you
listen to the clip with new

2522
02:31:17,010 --> 02:31:17,610
ears.

2523
02:31:18,390 --> 02:31:23,070
Okay, I'll you set this up. You
you I'll let you go. Go. Senator

2524
02:31:23,070 --> 02:31:26,820
Ron Wyden asked about collection
of information on Americans

2525
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:30,480
during a lengthy and wide
ranging hearing on an entirely

2526
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:34,620
different subject, while his
staff provided the question the

2527
02:31:34,620 --> 02:31:37,680
day before. Now, remember, this
is something we always talk

2528
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:41,070
about. This is all theatre. It's
all bull crap. All the question.

2529
02:31:41,100 --> 02:31:44,790
It's scripted. While his staff
provided the questions the day

2530
02:31:44,790 --> 02:31:49,110
before, Mr. Clapper had not seen
it. He didn't read the script.

2531
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:53,280
Essentially, he thought he could
ad lib. As a result, as Mr.

2532
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:57,540
Clapper has explained, he was
surprised by the question and

2533
02:31:57,540 --> 02:32:00,900
focused his mind on the
collection of the content of

2534
02:32:00,900 --> 02:32:05,490
Americans communications. In
that context, his answer was and

2535
02:32:05,490 --> 02:32:10,890
is accurate. When we pointed out
Mr. clappers mistake to him, he

2536
02:32:10,890 --> 02:32:15,960
was surprised and distressed. I
spoke with a staffer for Senator

2537
02:32:15,960 --> 02:32:19,110
Wyden several days later and
told him that although Mr.

2538
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:22,590
Clapper recognised that his
testimony was inaccurate, it

2539
02:32:22,590 --> 02:32:26,220
could not be correctly publicly.
It could not be corrected

2540
02:32:26,220 --> 02:32:30,330
publicly because the programme
involved was classified. This

2541
02:32:30,330 --> 02:32:33,150
incident shows the difficulty of
discussing classified

2542
02:32:33,150 --> 02:32:36,810
information in an unclassified
setting and the danger of

2543
02:32:36,810 --> 02:32:41,160
inferring a person's state of
mind from extemporaneous answers

2544
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:46,740
given under pressure. Wow, best
legal defence ever.

2545
02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:48,870
That's a good one.

2546
02:32:49,050 --> 02:32:54,990
You cannot understand the
extemporaneous state of my mind

2547
02:32:55,050 --> 02:32:59,250
when I'm answering under
pressure. I did not drop that

2548
02:32:59,250 --> 02:33:07,620
weed cookie. So summarising the
clapper, the clapper, as his

2549
02:33:07,620 --> 02:33:11,130
name from now on, the clapper
didn't read the script, his

2550
02:33:11,250 --> 02:33:16,110
staff. His assistants failed him
did not prepare him for this

2551
02:33:16,110 --> 02:33:21,240
question. And therefore, he was
confused about the answer

2552
02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:23,910
because he thought he was
getting the scripted question.

2553
02:33:24,450 --> 02:33:29,310
Do you collect people's the
content of people's

2554
02:33:29,310 --> 02:33:34,200
communications? So now let's
listen to the clip in with this

2555
02:33:34,830 --> 02:33:38,040
reference. I thank you. And just
for you, Director Clapper again

2556
02:33:38,040 --> 02:33:41,220
on the surveillance front, and I
hope we can do this and just a

2557
02:33:41,220 --> 02:33:43,980
yes or no answer because I know
Senator Feinstein wants to move

2558
02:33:43,980 --> 02:33:46,380
on. And by the way, if he had
read the script, all he would

2559
02:33:46,380 --> 02:33:50,670
have had to say was no, because
he was asking for a yes or no

2560
02:33:50,700 --> 02:33:54,750
answer. Last summer, the NSA
Director was at a conference.

2561
02:33:55,020 --> 02:33:58,140
And he was asked a question
about the NSA surveillance of

2562
02:33:58,140 --> 02:34:02,220
Americans. He replied, and I
quote here, the story that we

2563
02:34:02,220 --> 02:34:06,720
have millions or hundreds of
millions of dossiers on people

2564
02:34:06,990 --> 02:34:10,500
is completely false. The reason
I'm asking the question is

2565
02:34:10,500 --> 02:34:14,430
having served on the committee
now for a dozen years. I don't

2566
02:34:14,430 --> 02:34:20,130
really know what a dossier is in
this context. So what I wanted

2567
02:34:20,130 --> 02:34:23,160
to see is if you could give me a
yes or no answer to the

2568
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:28,950
question, does the NSA collect
any type of data at all on

2569
02:34:28,950 --> 02:34:35,370
millions or hundreds of millions
of Americans? No sir. It does

2570
02:34:35,370 --> 02:34:35,700
not

2571
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:42,420
not wittingly. There are cases
where they could inadvertently

2572
02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:46,410
perhaps collect but not not
wittingly.

2573
02:34:48,090 --> 02:34:50,940
You can even hear why didn't go
cocksucker didn't read the

2574
02:34:50,940 --> 02:34:58,140
script. So with this now in
mind, I can hear now why didn't

2575
02:34:58,140 --> 02:35:05,520
surprise He is he's like, what?
And I can hear the clapper is

2576
02:35:05,550 --> 02:35:09,390
unfit for office? What's he
doing Sudoko puzzles or

2577
02:35:09,390 --> 02:35:13,320
something that just was he just
looking at this next question?

2578
02:35:13,620 --> 02:35:16,680
Just whatever. What's your take?

2579
02:35:18,180 --> 02:35:22,350
I can see that interpretation.
And I can understand. I think

2580
02:35:22,350 --> 02:35:25,140
you're right. on all counts. He
didn't he took this too

2581
02:35:25,140 --> 02:35:28,680
casually, I mean, the right
answer if you had the script,

2582
02:35:29,460 --> 02:35:32,190
because you're given the
questions in advance, and the

2583
02:35:32,190 --> 02:35:39,330
rest of it is bullcrap. would be
would be to obfuscate the answer

2584
02:35:39,330 --> 02:35:43,470
by saying something like, well,
this is classified, or I'd have

2585
02:35:43,470 --> 02:35:48,210
to get back to as far as I know,
there's all these weasel words

2586
02:35:48,210 --> 02:35:52,200
you can use. I'm not sure I
understand what you mean. But

2587
02:35:52,320 --> 02:35:55,500
which is the classic right?
Because then you're done. You're

2588
02:35:55,500 --> 02:35:57,810
good. You're good to go. If you
start anything off with I'm not

2589
02:35:57,810 --> 02:36:04,020
sure what you mean, but and
instead he actually just out

2590
02:36:04,020 --> 02:36:07,440
blatantly lied. Yeah, I don't
see how the Lord can see it any

2591
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:10,650
other way. It's just a blatant
lie. What an idiot.

2592
02:36:13,050 --> 02:36:16,350
He's unfit for office as far as
I'm concerned, unfit.

2593
02:36:17,850 --> 02:36:20,850
Unlike great, what was he doing?
He knew he was coming up to the

2594
02:36:20,850 --> 02:36:23,070
thing. He had the question for
this big white and was going to

2595
02:36:23,070 --> 02:36:25,410
softball them with what colour
is your what's your favourite

2596
02:36:25,410 --> 02:36:25,830
colour?

2597
02:36:25,860 --> 02:36:29,160
And this is and this guy, this
clapper? I remember when he was

2598
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:32,490
on, I think was NBC. And there
was a number of people write

2599
02:36:32,490 --> 02:36:38,010
that. And this was at the London
but that somewhere somewhere. It

2600
02:36:38,010 --> 02:36:40,020
was something that happened a
lot it was at the liquid bombing

2601
02:36:40,020 --> 02:36:43,410
plot and they had found the guys
or whatever, and everyone knew

2602
02:36:43,410 --> 02:36:44,430
it. Everyone had heard this.

2603
02:36:44,490 --> 02:36:46,590
Everyone had the briefing the
morning briefing.

2604
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:54,330
Like what? What I didn't have
why. Okay, so I have a couple I

2605
02:36:54,330 --> 02:36:56,970
have a couple of things that I
need to this is all of course

2606
02:36:56,970 --> 02:37:02,400
about I think this is the story
of my lifetime. I really enjoy

2607
02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:06,630
all of the shenanigans around
Snowden and everything that's

2608
02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:10,200
happening. And there's been
there's a couple of new players

2609
02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:12,750
on the scene that I want to
introduce some older ones who

2610
02:37:12,750 --> 02:37:17,130
are back but first this there is
something going on when we have

2611
02:37:17,130 --> 02:37:20,100
and this is the the main
narrative right now. And I think

2612
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:24,540
I know why but a New York Times
and The Guardian both now not

2613
02:37:24,540 --> 02:37:30,120
only classifying Edward Snowden
as a whistleblower, but also

2614
02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:33,660
calling for amnesty now when
both not both of these now so

2615
02:37:33,780 --> 02:37:36,390
New York Times is gotta be you
know, of course his intelligence

2616
02:37:36,390 --> 02:37:40,530
the I'm just gonna say that CIA
and MI six is the guardian. So

2617
02:37:40,530 --> 02:37:40,710
there's

2618
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:44,550
reasons but yeah, this is part
of what we believe to be and

2619
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:44,700
there's

2620
02:37:44,700 --> 02:37:48,960
reasons why they want this to
happen. And there's there's you

2621
02:37:48,960 --> 02:37:50,910
know, there's a lot of
information and perhaps

2622
02:37:50,910 --> 02:37:54,000
misinformation or disinformation
out there about having more

2623
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:57,780
documents and I have a clip on
that I think the the media

2624
02:37:57,780 --> 02:38:02,670
really really wants Snowden and
I can understand from a general

2625
02:38:02,670 --> 02:38:06,480
media perspective mean the guy
even his by now the glasses the

2626
02:38:06,480 --> 02:38:10,260
long head the shitty haircut you
know, it's it's a brand brand

2627
02:38:10,260 --> 02:38:14,310
Snowden is alive you can do this
guy like like the Obama Hope and

2628
02:38:14,310 --> 02:38:17,430
Change posters. You'll recognise
him He's highly right

2629
02:38:18,030 --> 02:38:20,370
what do you say media you're not
talking about media you're

2630
02:38:20,370 --> 02:38:26,790
talking about me? Capital N five
ABC NBC this guy is a gold mine

2631
02:38:26,790 --> 02:38:29,340
we can get some make some money
with him the news? Yes, he can

2632
02:38:29,340 --> 02:38:31,830
finally make some money we can
put them on the air we

2633
02:38:31,830 --> 02:38:35,400
can put a movie movie movie I
know there's guys in Russia

2634
02:38:35,400 --> 02:38:36,180
right guys

2635
02:38:36,180 --> 02:38:39,060
want to do a story. We got a
book publisher. Yeah, lots of

2636
02:38:39,060 --> 02:38:40,320
money to spend on that

2637
02:38:40,350 --> 02:38:43,830
brand. Snowden is alive. And
well. And this is great because

2638
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:51,090
brand Snowden detracts from the
true egregious behaviour that is

2639
02:38:51,090 --> 02:38:54,870
going on with the American
industry known as the internet

2640
02:38:54,870 --> 02:39:01,050
services industry. So when we
focus on Snowden and and an

2641
02:39:01,050 --> 02:39:05,850
amnesty, we're not focusing on
secret lawsuits that Google

2642
02:39:05,850 --> 02:39:13,080
tries to have a put under seal
about their Gmail service, which

2643
02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:18,390
I have a copy of that. And I can
tell you that legally if Google

2644
02:39:18,390 --> 02:39:23,010
is reading an email that I send
to you and you're on Gmail that

2645
02:39:23,010 --> 02:39:28,290
is that is illegal. Right but
this lawsuit about this very

2646
02:39:28,290 --> 02:39:31,440
thing right here. You can you
can they can read anything you

2647
02:39:31,440 --> 02:39:34,440
put on there that but I don't
have they don't have my right to

2648
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:38,280
read my email that I send to
you. So anyway, so that all this

2649
02:39:38,280 --> 02:39:41,010
stuff. We don't want you talking
about that. Don't be looking at

2650
02:39:41,010 --> 02:39:45,300
that. Please be looking at Crazy
backdoors on iPhones and please

2651
02:39:45,300 --> 02:39:49,620
be distracted by Edward Snowden.
Which by the way, there's a

2652
02:39:49,620 --> 02:39:53,640
little discrepancy which I
wanted to ask you about. This

2653
02:39:53,640 --> 02:39:59,970
prison programme. Everywhere I
look, every news article can

2654
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,760
keep stating without and The
Guardian, of course, is the

2655
02:40:02,760 --> 02:40:05,730
number one I had unbelievable.
The Guardian says they keep

2656
02:40:05,730 --> 02:40:11,190
stating that the the prism
programme was discontinued in

2657
02:40:11,190 --> 02:40:15,690
2011. I don't understand how
they can say that when the

2658
02:40:15,690 --> 02:40:19,950
document we were shown, says
that Apple got onboard in 2012,

2659
02:40:19,950 --> 02:40:25,530
after Steve died, to how can it
be discontinued in 2011. And it

2660
02:40:25,530 --> 02:40:29,700
was a bush programme, of course,
yet there there the

2661
02:40:29,700 --> 02:40:32,730
documentation we see says that
it was still alive and that

2662
02:40:32,730 --> 02:40:37,140
Apple joined in 2012. So that's
a that's the big problem. As far

2663
02:40:37,140 --> 02:40:39,780
as I'm concerned. That's like we
talked about last show. That

2664
02:40:39,780 --> 02:40:44,190
slide is the is the problem. So
now we have

2665
02:40:44,190 --> 02:40:46,860
been trying to keep us away from
looking at that slide anymore. i

2666
02:40:46,860 --> 02:40:49,710
Oh, if you have a no, it's gone,
it's gone. There's something

2667
02:40:49,770 --> 02:40:54,150
there is some date specific
thing they have to use for some

2668
02:40:54,180 --> 02:40:57,810
guys. It's probably internal. We
don't know why he's got

2669
02:40:57,810 --> 02:41:00,930
something to do with somebody's
salary. It could have something

2670
02:41:00,930 --> 02:41:04,830
to do with the budget. You know,
they some lies in the budget

2671
02:41:04,830 --> 02:41:08,310
where they got money. So it's
something internal to the

2672
02:41:08,310 --> 02:41:14,010
agency, that doesn't really mean
anything to us. I think props

2673
02:41:14,010 --> 02:41:17,100
and so the end, but this this
this glaring problem with the

2674
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:22,260
2012 mentioned on this slide, is
they just hope that goes away I

2675
02:41:22,260 --> 02:41:24,750
get and they're just assumes
nobody's going to ask that

2676
02:41:24,750 --> 02:41:27,660
question. I don't know. But it I
don't think it's anything that

2677
02:41:27,660 --> 02:41:31,230
we need to we can assume that
that programme is still in play.

2678
02:41:32,310 --> 02:41:34,920
All that I'm concerned about and
this is what I've always talked

2679
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:38,220
about is you know, the free
mirrors and trinkets that

2680
02:41:38,220 --> 02:41:42,270
everyone takes and accepts and
and you know bully on you the

2681
02:41:42,270 --> 02:41:45,390
you're being you're being sold
to law enforcement agencies

2682
02:41:45,390 --> 02:41:48,900
intelligence is the same data
that that is being sold to

2683
02:41:48,900 --> 02:41:52,080
advertisers and sponsors and
anything and and look at stuff

2684
02:41:52,110 --> 02:41:54,960
you and you get in crappy
service for that too. Doesn't

2685
02:41:54,960 --> 02:41:57,090
matter. That's the real
surveillance that's happening

2686
02:41:57,090 --> 02:42:00,360
now. New players although this
player has been around, she's

2687
02:42:00,360 --> 02:42:06,120
back Jessalyn Radek she was on I
think this might have been CNN

2688
02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:10,770
or MSNBC Jessalyn Radek is
apparently the lawyer for

2689
02:42:10,770 --> 02:42:17,040
Snowden which I'm a little
confused because lon his dad has

2690
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:21,870
a lawyer and there's the what's
the the civil civil liberties

2691
02:42:21,870 --> 02:42:26,880
group, they've got a lawyer, but
now she's the lawyer and Jesslyn

2692
02:42:26,880 --> 02:42:32,520
Radek is interesting because she
is part of that a the outfit

2693
02:42:32,520 --> 02:42:38,850
that gave Snowden the
candlestick award. This is the

2694
02:42:39,240 --> 02:42:46,140
Hold on a second. I'll get it
here. I can't find it for him. I

2695
02:42:46,140 --> 02:42:49,170
don't know why I'm spacing. Oh,
maybe it's over here home.

2696
02:42:49,770 --> 02:42:53,670
Anyway, uh, she's with the
Government Accountability

2697
02:42:53,670 --> 02:42:59,940
Project gap. And she's on and
she so she's, she was a

2698
02:42:59,940 --> 02:43:04,380
whistleblower herself. She blew
the whistle, quote, unquote, on

2699
02:43:04,380 --> 02:43:09,420
the FBI for inappropriately
interrogating Ling, I think is

2700
02:43:09,540 --> 02:43:12,540
the first American Taliban.
You'll recall that story.

2701
02:43:13,140 --> 02:43:16,950
Oh, that guy. That was his local
does to you. Yes. We're in

2702
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:17,490
count. Yeah.

2703
02:43:17,520 --> 02:43:23,310
Yeah. So he was interrogated
illegally, as an American, you

2704
02:43:23,310 --> 02:43:27,390
have rights. And if and if you
have representation, you have a

2705
02:43:27,390 --> 02:43:30,630
lawyer. The FBI can't
interrogate you without talking

2706
02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:33,720
to your lawyer. And your lawyer
can say no. And so they they did

2707
02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:36,600
that anyway. And she blew the
whistle on that. And now she's

2708
02:43:36,600 --> 02:43:39,240
part of the Government
Accountability Project, which we

2709
02:43:39,240 --> 02:43:42,510
are suspicious about. But they
went to Russia. They gave

2710
02:43:42,510 --> 02:43:45,270
Snowden a candlestick. The Sam
Adams Award is literally is a

2711
02:43:45,270 --> 02:43:48,510
candlestick. Thanks. I'm in
Russia, Moscow. I got a

2712
02:43:48,510 --> 02:43:51,420
candlestick. What are we gonna
do with this? And she is now a

2713
02:43:51,450 --> 02:43:54,030
spokesperson. And she's in the
thing is you look at her. She's

2714
02:43:54,030 --> 02:43:57,660
kind of cute. But she talks like
she's had a stroke. Maybe she

2715
02:43:57,660 --> 02:44:01,080
has, but wow. And her mouth goes
all crazy left and right. It's

2716
02:44:01,080 --> 02:44:04,020
fascinating to watch. So I think
she's good medium material. And

2717
02:44:04,020 --> 02:44:04,320
joining

2718
02:44:04,320 --> 02:44:07,650
us now is Jessalyn. Radar. She
is legal adviser to Edward

2719
02:44:07,650 --> 02:44:10,440
Snowden and Jessalyn just to get
us started here, because a lot

2720
02:44:10,440 --> 02:44:13,290
of people are curious how Mr.
Snowden is doing. When is the

2721
02:44:13,290 --> 02:44:16,890
last time you spoke with Edward
Snowden. And how is he doing

2722
02:44:16,890 --> 02:44:18,210
these days in Russia?

2723
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:23,280
We speak regularly by
encryption, and he's doing

2724
02:44:23,280 --> 02:44:24,390
great. He's a

2725
02:44:24,390 --> 02:44:27,300
John. So we talk regularly
through encryption. We got to

2726
02:44:27,300 --> 02:44:27,990
make sure we did it.

2727
02:44:28,020 --> 02:44:29,160
You got it. Yep. People are

2728
02:44:30,030 --> 02:44:30,990
doing very well.

2729
02:44:31,020 --> 02:44:33,150
I'm honoured. And I guess you've
probably seen in The New York

2730
02:44:33,150 --> 02:44:36,090
Times that in The Guardian the
last couple of days that those

2731
02:44:36,090 --> 02:44:39,330
newspapers have called for some
sort of plea bargain or clemency

2732
02:44:39,330 --> 02:44:42,840
for Edward Snowden. Would he be
agreeable to coming back to the

2733
02:44:42,840 --> 02:44:46,320
United States admitting some
guilt in exchange for some

2734
02:44:46,320 --> 02:44:47,070
leniency?

2735
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:49,320
Now listen carefully to her
answer.

2736
02:44:49,800 --> 02:44:53,550
I can't get into plea bargain
negotiations really on the air

2737
02:44:53,550 --> 02:44:55,710
but he certainly would love to
come back.

2738
02:44:56,280 --> 02:44:58,560
I can't get into negotiations
but let me start the

2739
02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:00,990
negotiations. This is us.
Setting the United

2740
02:45:00,990 --> 02:45:04,590
States if the conditions were
right, and I think some sort of

2741
02:45:04,770 --> 02:45:10,290
pardon or amnesty would be
appropriate. And you know,

2742
02:45:10,290 --> 02:45:13,560
again, if there were conditions
attached to that amnesty, that's

2743
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,290
not something I can speculate
about, really. But he would

2744
02:45:16,290 --> 02:45:21,600
definitely be amenable under
conditions such as a pardon, or

2745
02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:27,450
amnesty. Am I crazy? Or did she
just lay out conditions? She

2746
02:45:27,450 --> 02:45:28,230
says, oh, that's

2747
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:31,770
what she did. She's trying to
get in on this deal coming back.

2748
02:45:31,890 --> 02:45:35,760
No one has contacted his
attorneys. And the Justice

2749
02:45:35,760 --> 02:45:38,580
Department certainly knows how
to get a hold of us if it would

2750
02:45:38,580 --> 02:45:43,410
like to talk about these issues,
which I would be glad to run by

2751
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:49,080
my client. I can't say for sure.
Right now. I don't think he's

2752
02:45:49,080 --> 02:45:52,710
committed any crime. And I don't
think he should think he's been

2753
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:57,120
punished quite enough. Already
by beings. We have stripped of

2754
02:45:57,120 --> 02:46:01,890
his statehood and basically
exiled for the past six months,

2755
02:46:01,890 --> 02:46:05,550
I think he certainly has paid a
very high price already. Oh, in

2756
02:46:05,550 --> 02:46:08,310
this one time, at bandcamp. I
stuck a flute.

2757
02:46:08,730 --> 02:46:12,030
Sorry, I couldn't resist that.
She just sounded so much like

2758
02:46:12,030 --> 02:46:18,450
it. Now, the truth comes out
about the 1.7 million documents.

2759
02:46:18,450 --> 02:46:22,110
Remember, this is his lawyer. He
she represents him. She says her

2760
02:46:22,110 --> 02:46:24,840
legal adviser one time lawyer
the next.

2761
02:46:25,380 --> 02:46:28,620
Yeah, what is she? She claims to
be? And she

2762
02:46:28,620 --> 02:46:31,110
says he's got lawyers. And then
she says she's his lawyer. And

2763
02:46:31,110 --> 02:46:33,660
then she says she's a legal
adviser. But she

2764
02:46:33,660 --> 02:46:36,360
talks to him through encryption
every day, and he's doing fine.

2765
02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:36,750
So

2766
02:46:37,050 --> 02:46:39,300
isn't that hard to believe, by
the way? Well,

2767
02:46:39,449 --> 02:46:42,659
again, this is all a big show.
And this these are the players

2768
02:46:42,659 --> 02:46:45,899
on the scene. Let's talk about
the documents.

2769
02:46:46,500 --> 02:46:50,310
And what other information does
he have that that might be of

2770
02:46:50,310 --> 02:46:52,920
interest to the United States
government? Because one thing

2771
02:46:52,920 --> 02:46:55,680
that we heard from a security
official Over at the National

2772
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:58,830
Security Agency, pretty top
official over there, said that

2773
02:46:58,830 --> 02:47:01,590
he would be interested in some
sort of amnesty for Edward

2774
02:47:01,590 --> 02:47:06,150
Snowden in exchange for his
data. Does he have some of this

2775
02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:09,630
still in his possession? Would
he be open to providing

2776
02:47:09,630 --> 02:47:11,880
everything that he has back to
the federal government in

2777
02:47:11,880 --> 02:47:13,350
exchange for some sort of deal?

2778
02:47:14,279 --> 02:47:18,329
As far as I know, he no longer
possesses any data and has not

2779
02:47:18,329 --> 02:47:25,409
had possession of any data since
he left Hong Kong for Russia. So

2780
02:47:25,679 --> 02:47:30,119
that would not really pertain.
However, I do think he has other

2781
02:47:30,119 --> 02:47:34,109
things to bring to bear in the
conversation that the government

2782
02:47:34,109 --> 02:47:39,239
might want to initiate and they
know how to find myself and Ben

2783
02:47:39,239 --> 02:47:44,129
Weisner of the ACLU if they want
to start a conversation about

2784
02:47:44,159 --> 02:47:45,869
amnesty or pardon

2785
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:48,690
Well, there you go. He's got no
chips he's got no chips. All

2786
02:47:48,690 --> 02:47:49,260
right, go

2787
02:47:50,250 --> 02:47:52,350
all right, this woman says
there's something fishy about

2788
02:47:52,350 --> 02:47:56,250
her and the here's the deal, the
way I see it was being set up.

2789
02:47:57,000 --> 02:47:59,700
The government wants to get over
the CIA because they promised if

2790
02:47:59,700 --> 02:48:02,760
they're if he's a CIA guy, like
we initially assumed it just set

2791
02:48:02,760 --> 02:48:04,500
this thing up, they got to get
him back in because that's part

2792
02:48:04,500 --> 02:48:07,050
of the deal. So they got to
extract him you got to bring him

2793
02:48:07,050 --> 02:48:09,870
back into the country somehow.
So they create this bogus story

2794
02:48:10,110 --> 02:48:13,470
about all these extra documents
that he's got. And they're

2795
02:48:13,470 --> 02:48:16,350
holding this bogus story because
that's going to be the the

2796
02:48:16,380 --> 02:48:20,130
negotiating angle because he's
got all these things and he can

2797
02:48:20,130 --> 02:48:22,140
turn it back over and
everything's fine and it gets

2798
02:48:22,140 --> 02:48:24,780
some sort of clemency and all
the rest of it works out she

2799
02:48:24,780 --> 02:48:28,830
blows the lid off she's actually
calls them out on this she's on

2800
02:48:28,830 --> 02:48:31,800
the other side of this she's on
the whatever this other side is

2801
02:48:32,850 --> 02:48:37,980
not going to let that fake story
get much traction. Yeah, I

2802
02:48:37,980 --> 02:48:39,750
agree. I agree. Oh, she is there

2803
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:42,690
just screw up. Yeah, any
possibility because she's

2804
02:48:42,690 --> 02:48:44,130
working for the NSA. Yeah,

2805
02:48:44,160 --> 02:48:48,660
there you go. Good one. And
that's in wouldn't you know,

2806
02:48:48,660 --> 02:48:51,600
keep your you keep your friends
close your enemies closer. No

2807
02:48:51,600 --> 02:48:56,040
wonder they were over there. And
notice that, that Sarah

2808
02:48:56,040 --> 02:48:59,910
Robinson, the hottie they she
got kicked out. He's in Berlin

2809
02:48:59,910 --> 02:49:03,900
now. Living with Laura Poitras,
and Apple bomb or whatever.

2810
02:49:04,230 --> 02:49:07,770
Right. So that's a sandwich I
don't want to say

2811
02:49:09,360 --> 02:49:12,810
it's not a sandwich it's I you
know, I could be lewd here by

2812
02:49:12,810 --> 02:49:16,290
the way. I don't really know
where I'm gonna go with. Yeah,

2813
02:49:16,320 --> 02:49:19,050
I don't know if we want to, but
from you. I can have I can take

2814
02:49:19,050 --> 02:49:19,230
it.

2815
02:49:19,620 --> 02:49:21,690
Okay, the two girls are
together. He's sitting in the

2816
02:49:21,690 --> 02:49:25,920
corner. Watching. That's it.
That's that's your whole shtick

2817
02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:27,900
go any further than that. You
can. You can figure it out for

2818
02:49:27,900 --> 02:49:32,400
us. Your whole story. Seems like
that. If you see a group like

2819
02:49:32,400 --> 02:49:35,070
that in Berkeley as the first
thing you think, Oh, brother.

2820
02:49:35,940 --> 02:49:39,060
And then we have a new dude,
although he's been around, but

2821
02:49:39,090 --> 02:49:42,540
we have a new puppet from
WikiLeaks. Of course, Julian

2822
02:49:42,540 --> 02:49:46,500
Assange played out no one's
done. We don't need the guy

2823
02:49:46,500 --> 02:49:50,040
anymore. And Julian was
fantastic. He also brand Assange

2824
02:49:50,040 --> 02:49:54,510
was great. We need a new one.
This guy is perfect right down

2825
02:49:54,510 --> 02:49:59,970
to the spelling of his name.
Kristen prednisone and he's from

2826
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:06,270
Iceland and listen you spell his
name k r i s t i n n, which is

2827
02:50:06,270 --> 02:50:09,990
completely unnecessary if for
any linguistic purposes, there's

2828
02:50:10,020 --> 02:50:13,530
there's no reason to have an
extraneous N in your name.

2829
02:50:13,710 --> 02:50:17,280
That's just showing off. I don't
know what it is ridiculous. And

2830
02:50:17,280 --> 02:50:21,360
then his last name for Rasmussen
it we're missing vowels. H

2831
02:50:21,390 --> 02:50:28,440
RAFNS. S O n. And he is the guy
he looks great. This could be

2832
02:50:28,440 --> 02:50:30,780
new brand wiki leaks have you
googled the guy yet?

2833
02:50:31,050 --> 02:50:32,280
I'm gonna do that right now.

2834
02:50:32,640 --> 02:50:37,680
Kristen for aphorism. He's, he's
my age, which kind of scares me

2835
02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:40,980
because like, holy crap, this
guy looks old and beat up. He's

2836
02:50:40,980 --> 02:50:46,800
52. He lived older and I am not
much and he was on CNN with a

2837
02:50:46,830 --> 02:50:52,080
battling with JEFFREY TOOBIN.
And it's irrelevant, because

2838
02:50:52,110 --> 02:50:56,430
what will you'll hear Toobin do
is so tube and starts off by

2839
02:50:56,430 --> 02:50:59,490
saying, Hey, you're calling me
Hitler, or Nazis or whatever.

2840
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:03,360
And this guy shoots back. And
then two guns gonna wind up by

2841
02:51:03,360 --> 02:51:06,990
doing exactly what he is trained
to do to say. We're not talking

2842
02:51:06,990 --> 02:51:11,460
about anything but Snowden. And
that is exactly the message. We

2843
02:51:11,460 --> 02:51:15,630
need to talk about nothing else
but Snowden not about spying,

2844
02:51:15,720 --> 02:51:19,710
not about Silicon Valley, not
about clapper lying only about

2845
02:51:19,710 --> 02:51:24,210
Snowden. And Toobin receives an
award from me for being so

2846
02:51:24,240 --> 02:51:27,690
bluntly honest, even though he's
completely full of crap. Here's

2847
02:51:27,690 --> 02:51:29,400
the new wiki guy Christian from
leftism,

2848
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:33,000
it was simply saying that it is
it is a well established

2849
02:51:33,030 --> 02:51:39,300
principle that an individual has
a moral obligation even to break

2850
02:51:39,300 --> 02:51:42,210
the law when he serves on a
higher ideals. And those higher

2851
02:51:42,210 --> 02:51:47,250
deals that that Edward Snowden
is trying to protect are the

2852
02:51:47,250 --> 02:51:51,270
principles of the United States
Constitution with suggested the

2853
02:51:51,270 --> 02:51:54,510
gentleman just before me it does
not care very much about he has

2854
02:51:54,510 --> 02:51:57,870
also suggested that national
security interest has been had

2855
02:51:57,870 --> 02:52:00,750
been harmed, that has been
claimed by the administration

2856
02:52:00,780 --> 02:52:04,800
without any proof being proven
that that happened. What Edward

2857
02:52:04,800 --> 02:52:09,030
Snowden has also revealed is the
simple fact that the Director of

2858
02:52:09,030 --> 02:52:12,870
National Intelligence James
Clapper lied to Congress last

2859
02:52:12,870 --> 02:52:18,090
spring in April, he committed a
felony, why aren't we discussing

2860
02:52:18,090 --> 02:52:22,110
the possibility of him getting a
plea deal for Jeffrey, what do

2861
02:52:22,110 --> 02:52:24,240
you think of that? I mean, clean
on that issue?

2862
02:52:24,720 --> 02:52:27,090
Well, you know, what, I am
certainly not going to defend

2863
02:52:27,090 --> 02:52:29,730
clappers testimony before
Congress. It sure seemed like a

2864
02:52:29,730 --> 02:52:35,280
lie to me. But it has nothing to
do with whether Snowden

2865
02:52:35,460 --> 02:52:38,280
committed a crime or not, you
know, lots of crimes get

2866
02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:41,550
prosecuted, lots of crimes
don't. But we're here to discuss

2867
02:52:41,550 --> 02:52:45,090
Snowden. And I think nothing
that I've read in the newspaper

2868
02:52:45,090 --> 02:52:48,810
in the past day or the past
month suggests anything other

2869
02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:51,840
than this is someone who
committed Major Crimes against

2870
02:52:51,840 --> 02:52:54,570
the United States. And you know,
if he can work out a plea

2871
02:52:54,570 --> 02:52:57,030
bargain, fine. I mean, that's
that's how many cases are

2872
02:52:57,030 --> 02:53:01,110
resolved. But the idea that he
deserves clemency when we don't

2873
02:53:01,110 --> 02:53:05,490
know where this stuff is, who
has it, what they've done with

2874
02:53:05,490 --> 02:53:07,290
it is just preposterous.

2875
02:53:07,650 --> 02:53:10,620
So I think this new wiki guy is
good. I think he could be a new

2876
02:53:10,620 --> 02:53:13,020
player on the scene. He's got
the crazy accent, kind of the

2877
02:53:13,020 --> 02:53:17,940
Nordic weird head. And he could
be the new guy.

2878
02:53:18,330 --> 02:53:22,440
Okay. I'm looking at him
pictures. He looks like a you

2879
02:53:22,440 --> 02:53:24,120
know, he looks like an
Icelander, he's got the you

2880
02:53:24,120 --> 02:53:25,380
know, everything is just
slightly,

2881
02:53:25,440 --> 02:53:30,180
it could be the new view. So the
final thing I'll say on this,

2882
02:53:30,210 --> 02:53:30,780
what was that

2883
02:53:30,780 --> 02:53:34,200
guy? What was his other guy,
this guy? Was the stooge for the

2884
02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:35,970
government working for what CNN,

2885
02:53:36,210 --> 02:53:39,570
JEFFREY TOOBIN he's been around
forever. Oh, two bit. Is that

2886
02:53:39,570 --> 02:53:44,880
guy tubing? Yeah. Hey, tubing.
So let me just read from this,

2887
02:53:45,090 --> 02:53:48,270
this filing. And it's in the
show notes if you're interested.

2888
02:53:48,510 --> 02:53:51,930
580 dot na shownotes.com
administrative motion to

2889
02:53:51,930 --> 02:53:55,230
conditionally file under seal
portions of plaintiffs

2890
02:53:55,230 --> 02:53:59,760
consolidated individual and
class action complaint. This was

2891
02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:05,670
Google's attempt to conceal the
class action lawsuit filed

2892
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:09,630
against them. And, and I want to
just give you briefly the

2893
02:54:09,630 --> 02:54:12,480
history so you can watch for
this in the future. Yeah. When

2894
02:54:12,480 --> 02:54:16,890
was Gmail, Gmail like
2004 2004 2005? And that came

2895
02:54:16,890 --> 02:54:21,360
out? I don't remember. And I
remember every single day oh my

2896
02:54:21,360 --> 02:54:27,120
god, that giving you a free
gigabyte of everyone freaked the

2897
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:31,590
tech press was just everyone get
Gmail. Gmail is great.

2898
02:54:31,800 --> 02:54:35,880
Everyone's gonna have Gmail. And
everyone bought into this and it

2899
02:54:35,880 --> 02:54:40,170
was propagated by your
technology media and press and

2900
02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:43,830
nary Was anyone even thinking
about what was really happening

2901
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:49,350
and now you're locked in. And
the lawsuit that is before us

2902
02:54:49,350 --> 02:54:52,980
before Yeah, so the lawsuit
that's before us here which is

2903
02:54:52,980 --> 02:54:55,950
what they tried to put under
seal and is not under seal is a

2904
02:54:55,950 --> 02:55:00,360
class action lawsuit and I will
definitely participate that If I

2905
02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:02,970
send email from Adam
mccurry.com, which is from my

2906
02:55:02,970 --> 02:55:08,310
own server, and I send it to
someone at@gmail.com, Google

2907
02:55:08,340 --> 02:55:12,210
legally does not have the right
to read that correspondence.

2908
02:55:12,570 --> 02:55:15,060
They have the right to read
whatever that person who I'm

2909
02:55:15,060 --> 02:55:18,810
sending it to has, but not what
I sent to them legally. And

2910
02:55:18,810 --> 02:55:21,390
certainly not to build a profile
on me.

2911
02:55:22,410 --> 02:55:25,410
Oh, this is good. I can get on
this too, because I use these.

2912
02:55:25,410 --> 02:55:25,680
Well,

2913
02:55:25,710 --> 02:55:30,150
I think we probably have I don't
know, though. If you if you

2914
02:55:30,150 --> 02:55:33,510
ever, it's probably and I'm not
a lawyer. But if you've ever

2915
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:38,130
signed up for Gmail, you may be
that and you may be I may, I may

2916
02:55:38,130 --> 02:55:40,230
have screwed myself. You may be
and I of course have signed up

2917
02:55:40,230 --> 02:55:43,320
for Gmail. So you you may be
done. Like, I don't know, that

2918
02:55:43,320 --> 02:55:44,310
may last forever. I

2919
02:55:44,520 --> 02:55:49,080
have no standing for the suit.
Possibly service. Right. And

2920
02:55:49,080 --> 02:55:51,120
actually, they could fix that
with anyone who signed up by

2921
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:53,490
even if it's not in there, they
can change it, because all these

2922
02:55:53,490 --> 02:55:54,540
terms of service always

2923
02:55:54,570 --> 02:55:59,700
change at any minute. Yeah,
yeah. Post Facto. Yep. But

2924
02:56:00,180 --> 02:56:05,460
anyway, I don't use that
anymore. There's also a class

2925
02:56:05,460 --> 02:56:08,940
action lawsuit against Facebook,
for monitoring of users private

2926
02:56:08,940 --> 02:56:13,200
messages. Yeah. And it's, this
is lawyer stuff. It's always

2927
02:56:13,200 --> 02:56:15,660
unfortunate, you know, because
it's hard for Pete for people to

2928
02:56:15,660 --> 02:56:19,500
understand, it's impossible for
the mainstream media to actually

2929
02:56:19,500 --> 02:56:23,610
communicate it to people, or
whatever. And the lawyers, of

2930
02:56:23,610 --> 02:56:27,720
course, take all the money. And
the real policy is rarely change

2931
02:56:27,720 --> 02:56:32,850
to the real dangers are rarely
exposed. Not my problem. We just

2932
02:56:32,850 --> 02:56:35,160
try to, we just try to help out.

2933
02:56:39,990 --> 02:56:43,170
As best we can, when we try and
I want to remind people I don't

2934
02:56:43,170 --> 02:56:47,040
have give some fuel puff pieces
and stuff left to finish with.

2935
02:56:48,240 --> 02:56:51,540
We could finish the show on an
upbeat if you're depressed us

2936
02:56:51,540 --> 02:56:57,720
with the thing earlier. With a
real news segment, done for a

2937
02:56:57,720 --> 02:56:58,290
while, we

2938
02:56:58,290 --> 02:57:04,320
certainly have not see you have
oh, you have to, I have to I'm

2939
02:57:04,350 --> 02:57:06,120
sure we want to do two or

2940
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:09,270
I think I can do to this short.
And I think we'd have to begin

2941
02:57:09,270 --> 02:57:11,730
though with a real news intro
clip.

2942
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:14,760
I'm gonna do all that I'd

2943
02:57:14,760 --> 02:57:17,640
like you to do. You're gonna
play that thing. And then you're

2944
02:57:17,730 --> 02:57:20,160
just gonna run these are
important news stories. Let's

2945
02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:24,630
start with the about story. And
that never ends. And you're

2946
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:26,970
gonna get to it, this is what's
going on. But most people are

2947
02:57:26,970 --> 02:57:29,220
paying more attention to this
than all this crap that we

2948
02:57:29,220 --> 02:57:33,060
talked about. And this is what
really counts and it's actually

2949
02:57:33,090 --> 02:57:35,070
will make you discussed it.

2950
02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:38,580
And now back to real.

2951
02:57:38,790 --> 02:57:41,580
And let's end by talking about
the biggest baby news. This is

2952
02:57:41,580 --> 02:57:45,300
my favourite baby of all, baby
George is even George Boyle.

2953
02:57:47,010 --> 02:57:51,990
He's a big baby. You know what
they're doing their way and I

2954
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:55,470
think that makes us love the
royal family even more. I

2955
02:57:55,470 --> 02:57:58,530
mean, they started, you know,
with those first pictures, and

2956
02:57:58,530 --> 02:58:00,810
those were taken by Kate
Middleton's father, so they're

2957
02:58:00,810 --> 02:58:03,690
doing things so differently. Oh,
totally. They're really

2958
02:58:03,690 --> 02:58:07,650
rewriting the royal baby and how
to raise a kid. And of course

2959
02:58:07,650 --> 02:58:11,070
they have their help, but they
really want to be as involved as

2960
02:58:11,070 --> 02:58:16,680
they can. All right, Jen, thank
you so much. Joining me now to

2961
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:20,040
talk style our very own style
producer Anthony Ramos. Hello

2962
02:58:20,070 --> 02:58:23,460
and style expert the Wiese row.
Good to see you both. Let's get

2963
02:58:23,460 --> 02:58:25,830
to it because I love a break
down list. We're starting with

2964
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:29,550
best dress Star of the Year
Louise Who's yours? Taylor

2965
02:58:29,550 --> 02:58:30,210
Swift.

2966
02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:33,510
We've done enough red carpets
now and you see how Brian not

2967
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:36,030
only I mean, she's got the body
of a supermodel but she's just

2968
02:58:36,060 --> 02:58:38,790
always wearing bright colour,
which I love. Look at this red

2969
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:43,140
gown at the CMA is so stunning,
but then equally she'll bring

2970
02:58:43,140 --> 02:58:46,950
out her in a rock chick and do a
super short or drop outs on the

2971
02:58:46,950 --> 02:58:50,550
waist here something sparkly and
what I love about Taylor is that

2972
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:52,680
she's an amazing role model for
young women.

2973
02:58:55,980 --> 02:59:01,470
Ah okay,

2974
02:59:01,500 --> 02:59:05,010
I get to I get to go back all
right. From the F Russia

2975
02:59:05,010 --> 02:59:05,670
department a

2976
02:59:05,670 --> 02:59:08,880
Russian President Vladimir Putin
has visited Sochi ahead of the

2977
02:59:08,880 --> 02:59:12,900
upcoming 2014 Winter Olympics
taking part in an all star ice

2978
02:59:12,900 --> 02:59:15,690
hockey match. He played his
Bella Russian counterpart

2979
02:59:15,690 --> 02:59:19,290
Alexander Lukashenko before
touring various Olympic

2980
02:59:19,320 --> 02:59:22,920
buildings. President Putin has
also relaxed a controversial ban

2981
02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:26,160
he'd imposed on all public
protests at next month's games,

2982
02:59:26,400 --> 02:59:29,970
people now be able to hold
demonstrations in a designated

2983
02:59:29,970 --> 02:59:34,140
area of the Black Sea resort,
but only if they get special

2984
02:59:34,170 --> 02:59:35,430
permission first.

2985
02:59:35,460 --> 02:59:38,790
Okay, a couple things about this
one. How awesome is the

2986
02:59:38,790 --> 02:59:42,810
President of Russia? Because he
plays a full ice hockey match.

2987
02:59:42,810 --> 02:59:48,180
He's like beatin people up and
body checking and bra is just

2988
02:59:48,210 --> 02:59:51,090
great. Really cool.

2989
02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:53,490
And then when didn't double lets
me

2990
02:59:53,520 --> 02:59:56,820
know it was him. And then you
have no, this is definitely no

2991
02:59:56,820 --> 03:00:01,500
double. She doesn't. And then of
course As the BBC says, well,

2992
03:00:01,500 --> 03:00:03,720
you're they'll be able to
protest but only in designated

2993
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:07,380
areas. Yeah, like the United
States freedom of speech zones.

2994
03:00:07,620 --> 03:00:08,580
Yes, exactly the

2995
03:00:08,580 --> 03:00:09,990
same, same thing.

2996
03:00:10,050 --> 03:00:11,880
But they do they bring this out.
They brought it up though,

2997
03:00:11,880 --> 03:00:13,560
right? That is exactly the same.
Let me

2998
03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:18,330
think. No, they didn't. Oh, and
then this and I had missed this

2999
03:00:18,330 --> 03:00:22,860
because of course, I didn't
watch se cup. With the final one

3000
03:00:22,860 --> 03:00:28,620
hour interview of Glenn Beck on
CNN Gee, I missed the show.

3001
03:00:28,950 --> 03:00:31,740
Oh, that's a shame. But this
clip was pointed out to me.

3002
03:00:31,890 --> 03:00:35,880
And this anyone who thinks the
Blaze is all great and Glenn

3003
03:00:35,880 --> 03:00:38,160
Beck is Glenn Beck is a dummy

3004
03:00:38,190 --> 03:00:41,070
and the LG we're talking about
Duck Dynasty. Do you know what

3005
03:00:41,070 --> 03:00:44,400
happened last week in Russia,
one of their biggest stars on

3006
03:00:44,400 --> 03:00:50,430
television said that homosexuals
should be put into the ovens

3007
03:00:50,940 --> 03:00:54,450
alive. I didn't think you could
make the Holocaust worse. But

3008
03:00:54,450 --> 03:00:57,780
he's like, why the gas chamber
that seems a little too humane.

3009
03:00:57,960 --> 03:01:02,010
Let's put them alive in the
ovens. I said on the air this

3010
03:01:02,010 --> 03:01:08,670
week, I will stand with GLAAD. I
will stand with any. Anybody who

3011
03:01:08,670 --> 03:01:13,410
will stand up and say That's
crazy. That's dangerous. That's

3012
03:01:13,470 --> 03:01:17,790
hetero fascism. That's what that
is white.

3013
03:01:19,440 --> 03:01:24,480
Hetero fascism. So we've gone
from the Russian kill the gay

3014
03:01:24,480 --> 03:01:30,300
laws to hetero fascism. And
Glenn Beck is all in on the lie.

3015
03:01:31,170 --> 03:01:38,820
It's unbelievable. I will stand
with GLAAD employees. We should

3016
03:01:38,820 --> 03:01:41,700
have the white paper out.
beginning of this week, I'm

3017
03:01:41,700 --> 03:01:45,000
reviewing the fourth and final
chapter in the appendix that our

3018
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:49,260
gay Crusader Brian has done. And
it'll be something that you can

3019
03:01:49,260 --> 03:01:51,900
just email the people after they
don't believe you. And they

3020
03:01:51,900 --> 03:01:52,860
probably won't read it.

3021
03:01:53,610 --> 03:01:55,710
But at least at least you'll
there has to be an executive

3022
03:01:55,710 --> 03:01:56,910
summary. No, no, no.

3023
03:01:57,210 --> 03:01:59,730
Believe me. I've hammered on
this. We have the executive

3024
03:01:59,730 --> 03:02:02,970
summary. And it basically you
say the same thing three times.

3025
03:02:03,600 --> 03:02:07,320
And we make sure that the show
was promoted properly and

3026
03:02:07,320 --> 03:02:11,280
credited in this document,
obviously. Yes, Brian is he's a

3027
03:02:11,280 --> 03:02:14,400
real journalist and a lawyer and
you know, he's, he's well known

3028
03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:16,350
in the LGBTQ Qi community.

3029
03:02:16,500 --> 03:02:18,480
Yeah, everything will be ready.
And finally get out to the

3030
03:02:18,480 --> 03:02:20,850
public if it gets wide
distribution right after the

3031
03:02:20,850 --> 03:02:21,300
Olympics are

3032
03:02:21,300 --> 03:02:25,740
over and Yeah, exactly. And
we'll have lots of interview

3033
03:02:25,740 --> 03:02:26,520
requests.

3034
03:02:29,730 --> 03:02:30,900
Yeah, yeah.

3035
03:02:31,680 --> 03:02:34,050
Yeah, we'll have tonnes of
interview requests and it'd be

3036
03:02:34,050 --> 03:02:40,950
great. Maybe maybe not. Okay, so
what I didn't get to I didn't

3037
03:02:40,950 --> 03:02:45,810
get to the Chinese. I didn't get
to Turkey. I can't believe I

3038
03:02:45,810 --> 03:02:46,620
didn't get to Turkey.

3039
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:49,980
Yet Turkey coming up on
Thursday. Okay, Turkey on

3040
03:02:49,980 --> 03:02:53,670
Thursday, Turkey Thursday
turkey, turkey. Thursday turkey.

3041
03:02:53,700 --> 03:02:59,670
South Sudan. Which it's all
China by the way. Mali. China's

3042
03:02:59,670 --> 03:03:04,770
again in Mali. My goodness. And
and of course, the funniest

3043
03:03:04,770 --> 03:03:12,390
thing. Apparently, having Kim
Jong on execute his uncle wasn't

3044
03:03:12,390 --> 03:03:16,800
good enough. Now we have to leak
the story that he had his uncle

3045
03:03:16,800 --> 03:03:20,040
ripped to shreds by 120 Starve
dogs.

3046
03:03:20,250 --> 03:03:24,780
Yes. I love this one. At what
point? what point does the

3047
03:03:24,780 --> 03:03:31,380
public say what is this
bullcrap? Guy like the guy was

3048
03:03:31,410 --> 03:03:34,500
like was it promised? We know
what he looks like? But if I

3049
03:03:34,500 --> 03:03:36,600
think if it was done in the
olden days, it would did we'd

3050
03:03:36,600 --> 03:03:41,430
have pictures of them as some
drooling food character. Yeah.

3051
03:03:42,810 --> 03:03:48,180
It's fantastic. It was the most
Yeah, it was fantastic. I just

3052
03:03:48,210 --> 03:03:51,570
shook my head when I heard that
one. Gave me a rise for sure.

3053
03:03:51,960 --> 03:03:55,380
All right. Well, I've got some
stuff to put on Thursday. Okay,

3054
03:03:55,380 --> 03:03:55,620
we had

3055
03:03:55,620 --> 03:03:59,460
Yeah, we I mean, we've we've
done another three hours. This

3056
03:03:59,460 --> 03:04:04,350
is not this is too much. Too
much. are

3057
03:04:05,550 --> 03:04:07,740
talking about off topic stuff, I
think.

3058
03:04:08,760 --> 03:04:11,670
No, what do you mean? Like, oh,
it's gonna say what you said was

3059
03:04:11,670 --> 03:04:12,300
fodder.

3060
03:04:13,290 --> 03:04:17,490
No, I think people like it.
That's the problem. Going three

3061
03:04:17,490 --> 03:04:19,920
hours, I think what they'd like
is, I don't know how we can

3062
03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:20,550
tighten it up.

3063
03:04:21,180 --> 03:04:22,980
I don't see how we can you're
the one that always wants to

3064
03:04:22,980 --> 03:04:25,950
tighten it up. But even you
don't know how to do it. No, I

3065
03:04:25,950 --> 03:04:28,050
don't know how to do and I don't
want to go to three and a half

3066
03:04:28,050 --> 03:04:28,650
because that's where this

3067
03:04:28,740 --> 03:04:30,630
is headed. No, no, that's none
of that. No, we're gonna we're

3068
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back to two and a half.
Thursday. It's 45.

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You gotta get ease off this. You
can't do it. You can't go cold

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turkey. Have a heart stop hard.
Stop

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hearts. We have a hard stop
everybody. I love meetings that

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start like, I have a hard stop
at 1229 So I have to be out.

3073
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Sorry, guys. I'm really sorry
about your Megan. Like, don't

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03:04:49,890 --> 03:04:53,580
come into my damn meeting. We'll
have a meeting about that day

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coming up Marines and six here
in Austin, Texas. I in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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and from Silicon Valley where I
am My machine didn't reboot once

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03:05:01,770 --> 03:05:03,120
again, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll

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be back on Thursday with Turkey
Thursday right here. The best

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03:05:06,900 --> 03:05:10,140
podcast in the universe. The no
agenda show.

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The basket ball rack.org/n A