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I do have a little entre mall,
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Sunday, January 19 2014 times
you get my nation media

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assassination episode five. This
is no agenda, working as a non

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shielding journalist from FEMA
Region six of the travel site

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tight on Austin, Texas in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry.

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And from Northern Silicon
Valley, it's Bingo. Bingo. Yeah,

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well,

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he's supposed to say I'm John C
Dvorak.

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Now. Bingo. I've changed my name
to bingo. Greg Lawton buzzkill

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what is that? I was thinking
about this this morning. Oh god.

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Why Why would you have a network
TV show MSNBC and have a guy

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named hooray. His name

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you want to be known as Bingo?

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Bingo is a good name.

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But then I want to like a Touray
type name. I'll be Ringo it's

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been going ring going on. I

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know he can't have rhyming
names. Being going ring go Why

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are you bingo have Dingo come on
the show ever trio?

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You go. Okay. That's his name.
His name is Touray isn't it?

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Was you born? Okay, lady. Just
the birth certificate? Is you

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have a first name no last name?
No, it's just Toray. No, that's

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not possible. Right.

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But that has to be that has to
be his actual first name. I

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think

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they'd be his last name. Well,
let's take a look would be named

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what's kind of a first name is
Toray. Tour A

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tour a Neblett.

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Neblett. And

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E b l e TT? Neblett. Is that his
name? Yes. Touray. Born to Ray

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Neblett is an American writer,
and television personality. And

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he was born Where was he born?
And he was born.

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And he comes out of Neblett?

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Well, I'm calling him Neblett.
From now on, that's for sure.

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Definitely. He's from Boston.
It's a very Bostonian name.

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Oh, well, that didn't realise
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name that he has. So I can't
guess bingo doesn't work. I just

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had to be John. That's,

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ya know. Wow, you really throw
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unexpected.

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Yeah. Well, you can start the
show over, but I'm not gonna

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start the show over. Absolutely.
bingos. Good. Yeah. Today's show

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on LEGO. Ah,

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before we get underway, first I
have to say I cheated a little

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bit yesterday. Just a teeny,

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weeny, weeny little. Go to the
spinning class.

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I went to the spinning class.
No, that was Friday. Yesterday,

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I spent most of the day prepping
doing everything working really

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hard. We had a late lunch didn't
have dinner, because we were

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invited to go to see Tony
Bennett perform live here in

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Austin. He's still alive at
seven years old. He's and let me

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tell you and he only he only
does like an hour and 15

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minutes, you know, so we were we
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with everybody else with their
walkers and Zimmer frames. But a

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friend of ours Eric Kapur and he
had a balcony you know the whole

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like a whole side of the balcony
was champagne. It was completely

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perfect.

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And there you are in the
champagne room. Yes.

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And Tony Bennett and it's on
this guy's unbelievable. Let's

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hope so at the at the very end
there is no he does like to

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encores at the very end he does
a What's the song fill my heart

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with flying to the moon I think
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fill my heart. You got somehow
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to the moon to the moon

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and fill my heart with the song
and then Anna led that Jupiter

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Marja, it's flying to the moon.
But after like he starts the

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song off and then he puts the
microphone down and sings the

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rest of the song unamplified at
seven years old and you're

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sitting there like holy crap,
this guy. Where is it coming

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from? It was it was quite
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He has a level there.

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Thanks, John. Buzzkill. And then
I had some news for you, which I

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think you'll enjoy. We we hosted
so Mickey has a Ms. Miki has a

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an art Expo coming up this 22nd
of February here in Austin. So

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that's really big deal and it's
with another artist Peggy Weiss

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and Peggy Weiss. She and her
husband Ron ran probably one of

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the most famous restaurants in
Austin for 30 years called

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Jeffries. And they just recently
sold a majority stake they're in

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their 60s and and so we had them
over. And I somehow I got kind

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of wrangled in Have you ever
come over and you'll cook? Let

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me tell you something. Cooking
for famous restaurant tours is

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intimidating. Yeah, I would say
incredibly intimidating. So I

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went for my standard, my
surefire the one I know will

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always work, which is the double
dip depression slaves do. Oh

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yeah, that will always work. And
let me read to you an email I

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got from Ron.

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Oh your way. Hold on. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. What? So you're

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proud of yourself. And now
you're gonna read your own.

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Again, you've only done this a
couple of times, but I called

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you out every time what you're
going to read fan mail.

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It's actually fan mail for you.
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okay. Go ahead.

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So, you know, the niceness kind
of niceties that another thanks

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again, I was serious about the
stew recipe. Virtually all stews

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are boring, comforting,
comforting but now all crap by

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the way. Well listen, it's
comforting but not unique. The

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one you prepared from John's
recipe was full of great

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flavours that all matched up
there you go. Your fan mail

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douche.

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Yeah, whatever I made stew about
or, you know, every country has

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their own name for Sue Sue is
the American name or maybe

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British. But you know the French
have you know beef organ yawn

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and the and the Belgians have
the carbon nod. And everyone has

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their own thing but a goulash
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all students they just had to
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so if you if you use all these
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Nazmi with beer for example,
instead of wine Americans

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typically may would use chicken
broth and you can do different

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things and you can get you can
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out of those things and if you
cook them long enough and the

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meat falls apart the way it

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should yeah, I had the perfect
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how long do you cook it?

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It was it was pretty much there
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was really half nails it it was
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that had it had some of the
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Yeah and that run that then it
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perfectly not too much but it
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it was good it was this is the
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sound good

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well you were under the under
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yeah I was very into and then of
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Dame at least garlands lemon
cello playing Oh, yeah, yeah, I

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said oh, this is from one of our
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would think that we are Oh, hold
on, John

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did is your is your automatic
gain set or something? You just

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went? You just went away? off
the face of the earth? Yeah,

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kind of. Just double check that
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Okay, now. Oh, thanks a mouse
coordination. Am I so it is?

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See, I knew it. Yeah. Just
little things you got to do like

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it will readjust me because

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there you go. Yeah, talk a
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from my list of clips.

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No, that's okay. You're good to
go. No, press

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machine back my old windows
seven white machine the big one

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that was built for us by our
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Oh, and this is the one that had
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That's what I thought. Oh, so I
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realise this guy. He's made a
great machine. I got to I lost

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track of him. I should have
visited him I called him so what

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it was and I turned the machine
open to see what's going on

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machine is beautiful inside. And
it's running the boot disk is a

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500 gigabyte SSD. Oh, gee, I
didn't realise that should make

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it really fast that's a makes it
worth that I mean that when he

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built a suit I think must have
cost two grand so I'm I decided

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I'm dicking around I gotta get
an I can't believe the SSD was

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blowed up so I hooked it to
another machine and it was

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showed up fine. Everything looks
kosher. Yeah. So I started

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looking around and I ended up
looking at the BIOS and

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apparently what had happened the
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the SSD itself never showed up
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Okay, so there was a problem
with the with the You mean in

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the BIOS Yeah,

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I must have been like a power
surge something zapped the

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machine and she screwed up the
the BIOS Yeah, the BIOS. Yeah,

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the BIOS got a hit on it. So I
put it back in their boots right

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fine. Everything's great. Yeah.
turn out to be a big deal. I'm

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it's just a matter of

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you just given up too early,
like after what? Okay, here's

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John's computer won't boot up
piece of shits about broken. I

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need a new one.

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Oh, me and everyone else. Not
the kind of thing you'd normally

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expect to happen.

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And people who are relatively
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think that we're getting new
people every single day. It's

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very difficult often for them to
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understand how we work. But it
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John and I rarely, but pretty
much never communicate with each

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other outside of the show
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he's reading what he's listening
to what he's watching. Reverse

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is the same. Then on show days,
we kind of show up and I got my

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stuff that I'm thinking I want
to talk about. And John has his

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stuff. And I really don't we
catch up. Yeah, it's literally

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we're catching up. And I have no
idea what he's going to come up

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with clip wise, but I do I don't
listen to I have no idea what

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that what they contain. But I
can read some of the some of the

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titles. And then I'm very happy
to see that somehow after six

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years. We're now in our seventh
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thought, curry, I'll do the
Obama speech. I did. I was I was

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correct in assuming that.

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It's funny because we both
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going to do we want to be saying
we usually are right. I don't

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think it's ever been the case
where we're both wrong. And we

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never have the clips.

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Now that has never happened.
We've we've both had issues. And

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we both had clips, but never

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Jim yeah, sometimes then we have
duelling clips. Yeah, my clip is

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better than your clip.

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So of course, I was particularly
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speech by the President because
on the previous programme on

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Thursday, no, no, a week ago, we
discovered the existence of

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executive order one, two, triple
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Although I believe we have
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It's possible, but I didn't
remember it. Yeah, I recalled

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something about it. But it is an
executive order signed by Ronald

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Reagan. And there's been some
interesting amendments to it.

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And we're getting all kinds of
response to this. In fact, that

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was one that was was kind of
kind of funny. Let me see if I

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can just bring this up real
quick. And this was one of these

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encrypted emails. And how many
just invoke the PGP and we go,

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Adam kindly asked to remain
anonymous. And the way it starts

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off is one of these tips.
Usually I stopped reading after

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this opening line. I was
surprised to learn that you had

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never heard of executive order.
Two triple three, considering

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the in depth and often
frightening me correct analysis

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given on the show.

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I have discussed it before.

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What are you eating some?

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Oh, I'm sorry. Is this Can you
hear this? Yeah. Oh, I'm opening

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up the new red book that is in a
packet. Oh, good.

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EO one triple three, however, is
primarily for

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counterintelligence and not for
general intelligence collection

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authority. This is new to me. It
has been taken advantage of for

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certain but how I never intended
for exploitation of the American

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people. It has been taken as a
counterintelligence

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professional, it is often
necessary to collect information

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of US citizens that could
potentially provide information

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to or be helpful. To the
intelligence services this is

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only to fully identify the
person and to make a preliminary

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assessment that they are not a
spy already gets so this is to

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wrap your mind around this. What
this person is saying is that in

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the counterintelligence business
is necessary to spy on people

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make sure they're up to no good
so you can blackmail them into

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becoming a spy, a counter spy
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basically. And that's why II Oh,
one, two, triple three is good.

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Yeah, that's that was my
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think that just by encrypting
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for this? I thought that was
pretty cool. Anyway, so I'm very

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interested what the President
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speech, I started receiving the
under embargo PDFs of his PPD is

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presidential policy directive.
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eventually came the fact sheet
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read one, the only the only line
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this SIG int, PPD, or signals
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footnote on page five. This you
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this@whitehouse.gov Of course,
you can get it from the show

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notes 584 dot no agenda
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intended to alter the rules
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executive order one two triple
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Surveillance Act or other
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everything I'm doing here does
not apply to the real to the

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real business. Which as we know
from Executive Order, one two

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triple three is pretty much if
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okay. Then and the attorney
general signs off, then it's

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good to go. And then
subsequently, we found an

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amended amendment with an
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general is allowed under US law
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deputy attorney general, or
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in to office or has gone through
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it's not just the attorney
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spying on American citizens by
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but you know, any anyone he says
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pretty much everything the
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legal standpoint. And really,
the section 215 Is, is yes,

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metadata. Very important. It's
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the broad scope of what's really
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well, maybe there's something
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and let me let me listen and see
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think I did. I think I stumbled
upon something that is quite

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obvious. Now. It's not like a
huge shocker, but it's like, oh,

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okay, this makes sense. But
first, just a few words from the

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President to remember that
anything he says, there's always

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a reason for this. Nothing is
left up to chance. These things

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always come back around, by the
way, what's with the six flags

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on this on the podium? Have you
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President when they frame that,

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they almost look like a
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But when when you frame the
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wings made out of American
flags. You should Google the

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picture of just Obama speech.

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Yeah. Interesting observation.
And this, but this is a

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recurring theme. So he has six
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There's a subtle promotion for
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Yeah. Which is not doing so.
Well. Yes. Okay. Nice. But it

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was weird. You know, I was like
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matter.

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really pushing the use of the,
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Yeah. I think much later became
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of putting people behind you
what love watching the back of

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your head. Right? I don't know.
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the Six Flags, it's that they
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It should have been 1000
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whenever someone uses the word
Moreover, in your speech, wow.

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That's not even good writing in
general is well that's

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the that is I one of the I can't
remember what it's a correction

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for, but that's one of the auto
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corrections in Microsoft Word.

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Moreover. Yeah, I

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think so. I think I've seen it.
Use this.

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It's a correction. For what word
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I can't remember it. But I

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That's funny. That's funny. So
the speech right? It's like, oh,

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and moreover, I fuck it. Let's
put that in. All right, good.

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Yeah, no, I'm convinced. And
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and he said, maybe two or three
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regular speech? And well, there
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Microsoft Word.

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What does it even mean?
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what it's like so. Okay, all
right. Good substitute word so

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so um,

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moreover, all right. So here's
here's the President with just

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some some interesting things I
picked up along the way that I

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found to be interesting, the
horror of it. First of all,

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whenever someone says horror and
horror, kitchen war, he says, he

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wants to say the horror. But he
says the horror, the horror.

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games make that an evergreen.
Just drop it in every so often

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the horror.

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I heard this, dude. And when
this seat

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before you before you go on, can
I say something interesting.

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Please, it was about time.

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The beginning of the speech this
will resonate in its clip it

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because I was annoyed at the
beginning of the of the speech

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where it talks about Paul
Revere, and he talks about the

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the Civil War.

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We're patriots, and that's why
we can spy on you.

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He is saying that. He says it's
a it's a trick. What he's really

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saying is to boil it down is
there's a tradition of the

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American spying on their
enemies. Yes. And then he then

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he says that that's why we're
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Essentially, he's saying and
we've said this before, and I've

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written an article about it. He
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kind of a theme under underlying
the Snowden revelations. Yeah.

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They perceive and then Obama
himself perceives the American

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public as the enemy. Yeah, yes,
exactly. And that's what he says

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when he says, oh, Paul Revere,
come on.

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There was a I have it in the
show notes. Let me see. It was

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it was This forum it was really
was a weird Missy who did this

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article it might have been yeah
Giga ohm who wrote it a giga,

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which I found with David Meyer.
He wrote a very funny piece,

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which he calls the Obama
reimagined. And so basically the

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speeches Paul Revere was a spy
and a patriot. We used to spy

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from balloons. We spied a lot in
World War Two, which was good

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and also in the Cold War, but
not like the East Germans. We

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spied on our activists, which
was bad, we won the Cold War,

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then 911 happened and we had to
start spying on everyone. Our

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spies work hard and are good at
networking. I was against

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warrantless wiretap when Bush
was president, the worst

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excesses happened under Bush
were really good at spying

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seriously, better than anyone
else. And it goes on and on.

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It's a good piece. And that's
exactly what he was saying,

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essentially. Yeah. But there
were some other little messaging

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in there that I think I think I
caught so again, let's get let's

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get past the horror part.

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The horror of September 11,
brought all these issues to the

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fore,

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to the fore, to the fore. I just
heard that for the first time. A

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to the floor on the floor. What
is he saying invited all to the

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fore? Does he think maybe he's
He really thinks he's Abraham

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Lincoln. And he has to talk like
it's 1790 or something or the

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horse or

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brought it the horse is a woman
involved. She brought it to the

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before.

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Maybe it's he's rapping and
Ryman the horse,

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brought it to the fore of
September 11 brought all these

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issues to the fore now made Iran
across the political spectrum

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that Americans recognise that we
had to adapt to a world in which

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a bomb could be built in a
basement.

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Now, how in the world do you get
from September 11, to everyone

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being all in an understanding
that a bomb can be built in a

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basement? It's completely
unrelated. I think that what we

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learned if, if you believe in
September 11, as the commission

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reported it, that a moving
flying object can easily be

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turned into a bomb. That was
what we learned nothing. It was

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a spaceman. Well, it gets
better.

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And our electric grid could be
shut down by operators an ocean

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away

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that this has not happened. When
did

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that happen? It's never
happened. Something is falling

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behind.

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Apparently, we missed some
things that happened on

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September 11. People were
building bombs and basements and

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they were shutting down grids
from another country. This is

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the kind of propaganda that
really worries me. This is not

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this is these are blys. But he's
connecting it but he's

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connecting it. You are now into
your brain has connected

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building bombs and basements and
cyber hackers from foreign three

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B's building. Yes, building
bombs comes back in the show

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later, by the way, the three B's
building bombs and basements and

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bringing down the entire grid
from a from overseas. Let me

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just hear that again. Because
this is this. I find this to be

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outrageous that anyone you miss
uses what happened on 911 to

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propagandise these untruths, but
they

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were always good slamming bush
for doing

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thank you that we had to adapt
to a world in which a bomb could

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be built in a basement.

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And our election electric should
have said a bomb could be built

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in a basement in Boston. Now
that would have been good.

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Because then it would have would
have had more alliteration have

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been nice. A bomb

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could be built in a basement in
Boston,

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a bomb could be built in a
basement in Boston, and our

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electric grid could be shut down
by operators an ocean away. This

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an ocean away, China.

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We were shaken by the science we
had missed leading up to the

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attacks. How the hijackers has
made phone calls to non

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extremists and travelled to
suspicious places

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or suspicious places.

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San Diego, we Florida

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demanded that our intelligence
community improve its

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capabilities and that law
enforcement change practices to

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focus more on preventing attacks
before they happen than

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prosecuting terrorists after an
attack. Okay,

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so let me understand what the
President is saying. Apparently

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before 911 our intelligence
services all they did was wait

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for something to happen and then
figure it out later and

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prosecute them. They were not at
all thinking about preventing

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attacks. Is that what the
President just told me? The

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stupid Bush guys I can't believe
they were so dumb. To never have

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the foresight of the horror that
could occur to prevent

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something. That whole piece of
speech I'm sorry, shameful. Now

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there was something that's I got
a tweet and someone alerted me

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to this and I and I'm asking
when I don't think the chat room

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can help. I don't think you can
help John. But maybe people

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listening to the podcast You
will be able to hear that during

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most of his speech there was
classical music playing. Did you

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catch this? No, I did not. And I
know this piece. I know this

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classical. It's a violin
concerto. But there's not enough

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of it because he leaves these
long pauses. That's when you

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hear that due to, I'll try and I
never

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I never noticed this

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if you turn it around. So I've
been I've zoomed in enhanced and

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rotated the sound and chopped
out the President's bits. So you

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can hear the little pieces. And
it's going to be horrible over

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Skype. So you may not be able to
participate. But I tried to

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sound hounded I tried Shazam.
But it's just not enough and not

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enough. You there's too much.
The Signal to Noise is all off.

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So neither of those programmes
could figure it out. Then I

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tried whistling it into sound
how they couldn't figure it out.

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I just want to know what it is,
you know, because I find it very

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interesting to this classical
music in the background. Let's

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listen.

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Bouncing you're gonna hear this
at all. Okay, now, I can hear a

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little bit though. It sounds
like Some Enchanted Evening.

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Who Some Enchanted Evening?
Yeah. How does that go?

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Some Enchanted Evening, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

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It's a real classical piece
we've made maybe someone else

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can help us? Well, I

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think it was, I think Some
Enchanted Evening was based on

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some classical peace. I don't
know. I never noticed that. I

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just have to say maybe there's a
band playing outside. There was

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a party going on?

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Could have been. But But I but
it was audible. And so I'm like,

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wow, you know, anyway, maybe
someone can help us with that.

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Okay, now on to some phrases
that are being brought into the

449
00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:51,870
lexicon that are meant to, I
believe just have your brain

450
00:26:51,870 --> 00:26:55,620
switch off and go okay, of
course, these two words one is

451
00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:59,910
super computer. Because you
know, that is a technical term.

452
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:03,180
As you know, John, when you've
got a supercomputer, all bets

453
00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,600
are off. Yeah, well, I've got
one. Yeah. Yeah. With it with a

454
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:13,410
500 gigabyte SSD SSHD, whatever
you want to call it and the

455
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,870
other is bulk. And what bulk?
Bulk? Yeah, this is a new term

456
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:19,410
bulk.

457
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,880
Do you mean like how spinning
bulks up your thighs?

458
00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:29,490
Yeah, or bulky items pick up on
Thursday. Now bulk his bulk?

459
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,830
Yeah. What is? What is the
definition of bulk?

460
00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:35,370
Bulk? Bulk? What the definition
means bulk bigger.

461
00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:39,240
No, I don't think it I think it
means some bulk bulk, big, big

462
00:27:39,270 --> 00:27:46,530
mass as well interesting. It can
also mean great size or of great

463
00:27:46,530 --> 00:27:52,170
importance. Treat a product so
that its quantity appears

464
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,230
greater than it in fact is okay.
So there's all kinds of ways to

465
00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:58,500
interpret the term bulk. All
right. But in conjunction with

466
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:00,060
super computer, I mean,
obviously,

467
00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:03,270
combination of increased digital
information and powerful

468
00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:04,140
supercomputers.

469
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:07,650
powerful supercomputers,

470
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:12,180
offers intelligence agencies the
possibility of sifting through

471
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:16,140
massive amounts of bulk data to
identify patterns or pursue

472
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:19,320
leads that may fort impending
threats.

473
00:28:19,439 --> 00:28:21,869
There you go this so there it
is, in a nutshell,

474
00:28:21,899 --> 00:28:23,789
it says May

475
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:29,010
May Oh, yeah. The possibility to
K possibility. Yeah. So he

476
00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:32,340
actually has a huge performative
here. And that's kind of what

477
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:35,550
you're talking about. And we
were always on the lookout for

478
00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:38,370
performative or when the
President will say something

479
00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:41,610
that really doesn't mean
anything. And wow, he really

480
00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:46,380
threw out a doozy and this one,
to the contrary, right there to

481
00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:47,820
the contrary of what

482
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:50,430
in an extraordinarily difficult
job.

483
00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:55,260
To the contrary, I'm just gonna
throw that in

484
00:28:55,290 --> 00:28:57,510
you just me you can do it
anytime you want.

485
00:28:57,810 --> 00:29:00,900
To the contrary, my friend to
the contrary to the contrary, I

486
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:01,110
feel

487
00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:02,760
the 40 Niners are a great team,

488
00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:07,560
one in which actions are second
guessed, success is unreported.

489
00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:09,600
And failure can be catastrophic.

490
00:29:09,630 --> 00:29:13,080
That sounds like our podcast,
actually, I think. Just listen

491
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,710
to that again, that sounds
exactly like us. To the

492
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:17,670
contrary,

493
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,110
difficult job, this podcast one
in which actions are second

494
00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:22,980
guessed, yes, the

495
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:24,690
podcast is second discs, by

496
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:28,440
the way is an interesting meme
he's bringing up because this is

497
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,050
a meme that's been developed by
television shows.

498
00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:34,680
Yes, because they're the unsung
heroes of the world. They save

499
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,020
the world without getting any

500
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:42,420
recognition. Every tip from
every show from NCIS to the

501
00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:45,030
oldest show used to be called
the agency or something and then

502
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,450
and the new show the agents of
shield which is very pro

503
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:51,870
government for some reason.
Which Which is weird,

504
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,910
considering Josh Joss Whedon did
it Yeah, but anyway, there's

505
00:29:56,910 --> 00:29:59,880
this constant you're doing it
for the you know, you're never

506
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,610
going didn't get any credit in
the movie The movie with Al

507
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:05,850
Pacino you're never gonna get
any credit for anything you do

508
00:30:05,850 --> 00:30:08,610
and you're gonna It's a
thankless job and that's right

509
00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:12,300
but if you fail you'll you'll be
you know get credit for that

510
00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:12,870
kind of thing

511
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:18,840
and I will say that coming from
an environment of intelligence

512
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,680
in my family there is a some
there's some truth to that yeah,

513
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:29,430
and and so I'm not I'm just
laughing at how he's saying it

514
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:35,040
but and so yes lots of people do
a lot some people get shot up

515
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,240
for dumb for dumb wars. No other
people do all that everyone

516
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:40,710
everyone's can be heroic in
their own

517
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:46,080
guys laying Ethernet cable
around the Iraq comm pie your

518
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,500
rock count. pawns are not
getting any credit. No, there's

519
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,900
a lot of people that don't
there's people that work for a

520
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,380
living the bus driver, no credit
shoot down the street doesn't

521
00:30:55,380 --> 00:30:58,740
get a bunch of credit, but if he
molest a passenger, it gets in

522
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:02,850
trouble and Chris bull crap.
This is the way it is

523
00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:03,840
everywhere.

524
00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:06,300
Yes, thank you that I guess
that's the point I'm trying to

525
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:06,660
make. This

526
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:11,640
is unreported, and failure can
be catastrophic. The men and

527
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,050
women of the intelligence
community, including the NSA,

528
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,430
consistently follow protocols
designed to protect the privacy

529
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:21,330
of ordinary people,

530
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:22,350
your comms

531
00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:26,250
they're not abusing authorities
in order to listen to your

532
00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:28,770
private phone calls or read your
emails now.

533
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,070
They not so let's listen to the
president said they're not

534
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:37,980
abusing it. They may be doing it
they're just not abusing it.

535
00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:42,360
And that is a lie in itself.
We've already known from earlier

536
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,870
testimony before Congress that
at least two people will be

537
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:49,500
caught spying on their
girlfriends Exactly. Which by

538
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,250
the way has seemed a bit lost in
the in that conversation. Nobody

539
00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:54,330
even brings it up in tears.

540
00:31:55,470 --> 00:32:00,780
Well, I think I'm going to prove
today that a lot of this was all

541
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:03,840
set up and scripted whether the
President was even in the know

542
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,050
is secondary because we know
he's not writing the speeches

543
00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:12,930
moreover to the four from the
whore so he No he's not writing

544
00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:15,750
it but maybe somewhat this is
this actually this speech and

545
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:19,200
what we're going to get to in a
minute for the first time, and I

546
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,260
rolled this theory out him is
making she hit She immediately

547
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:26,220
grok to it. She's like she why
grokked

548
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:29,880
Grace she What? Is she okay,
does she does she need

549
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,840
hospitalisation?

550
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Funny enough, she might. And
this was one of the first time

551
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,060
does that

552
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:40,290
mean, by the way? grok. Yeah,
what word is that? You've given

553
00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:44,790
him crap about using Moreover,
and you're using grok? Yeah,

554
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:48,390
have been a bit as I came up
with it myself. It wasn't on my

555
00:32:48,390 --> 00:32:49,350
teleprompter.

556
00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:52,980
Okay, if you want to use that
word, go ahead, you will surely

557
00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:54,480
understand.

558
00:32:55,050 --> 00:32:59,130
Well, this is a word coined by
Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961

559
00:32:59,130 --> 00:33:03,780
science fiction novel Stranger
in a Strange Land. Yeah. And the

560
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:06,000
term means to understand

561
00:33:06,899 --> 00:33:10,319
why don't Is it a more simple
word that everyone knows the

562
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,349
meaning of understand used in
this context?

563
00:33:13,379 --> 00:33:17,129
I don't know. Bingo. Why don't
you tell me more? I'm just

564
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,190
saying it's one of those words
that comes out people use it.

565
00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:21,870
I've always been befuddled by

566
00:33:21,870 --> 00:33:24,660
it, abusing authorities in order
to listen to your private phone

567
00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:26,310
calls or read your emails.

568
00:33:26,669 --> 00:33:29,099
That's just that is such a
telling statement. They're not

569
00:33:29,099 --> 00:33:32,219
abusing it. They're doing it.
They're just not abusing it,

570
00:33:32,309 --> 00:33:35,879
because it's completely legal.
That's why it's no problem.

571
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,550
When mistakes are made, which is
inevitable in any large and

572
00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:44,520
complicated human enterprise,
they correct those mistakes.

573
00:33:44,670 --> 00:33:45,690
Okay? They don't

574
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,350
know. They don't correct them.
And you can't correct the

575
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:53,250
mistake of spying. You correct
the mistake and you can admit

576
00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:53,670
it. You just

577
00:33:53,670 --> 00:33:56,670
listened in on your girlfriend's
conversation. Oh, you're gonna

578
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,340
stop listening? Yeah, that's you
stopped listening. But you

579
00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:03,840
didn't correct anything. You
still had listened? You can't

580
00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:09,060
undo it. labouring in obscurity,
often unable to discuss their

581
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:11,070
work even with family and
friends.

582
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,429
Yeah, well, we know this. So
what I told you when the 16 year

583
00:34:17,429 --> 00:34:20,639
old niece of mine says, I can't
tell you what we're doing in

584
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,049
Japan. You don't have clearance.

585
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,890
Yeah. I don't even want to use
the word. But I was gonna say

586
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,610
no, you don't say it.

587
00:34:26,969 --> 00:34:31,229
The men and women, the NSA know
that if another 911 or massive

588
00:34:31,229 --> 00:34:32,399
cyber attack occurs

589
00:34:32,429 --> 00:34:38,039
Now hold on a second. When When
was the massive cyber attack?

590
00:34:39,059 --> 00:34:41,429
Did he say another? Well, he

591
00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:46,530
so again, very tricky. Whenever
another 911 or massive cyber

592
00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:47,580
attack happens.

593
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,330
The men and women of the NSA
know that if another 911 or

594
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,100
massive cyber attack occurs.

595
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:58,620
That's that's a good one. I
think that's a 10 pointer. Now

596
00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:00,420
makes it sound as though it did
tell Bend?

597
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,860
Well, and I immediately am
thinking, why are we not

598
00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:09,270
standing up and saying, hey, it
looks like we were attacked by

599
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:12,000
Oh, I'm sorry, the messaging now
is the Russians because it was

600
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,410
Russian, the code was commented
in Russian that attacked target,

601
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,280
and Neiman Marcus and countless
others we are yet to understand

602
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,210
about, is that not exactly what
they're supposed to be stopping?

603
00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:26,670
Is that not a massive cyber
attack?

604
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,370
That's a massive cyber attack.

605
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,720
I think it's massive. They stole
money, which, by the way, I

606
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:38,760
don't think, you know, here's it
will get to the target thing in

607
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,270
a minute, I had a mind fart
about, let's continue, Obama

608
00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:45,030
will be asked by Congress in the
media, why they failed to

609
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:53,400
connect the dots. What sustains
those who work at NSA, and other

610
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520
intelligence agencies through
all these pressures, is the

611
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,920
knowledge that their
professionalism and dedication

612
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,670
play a central role in the
defence of our nation. Okay.

613
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,880
Now, this is where all of a
sudden I went, Oh, hold on a

614
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,480
minute. Something fishy going on
here. And I did some

615
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:19,080
investigative journalism for
you. Moreover, there he is.

616
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Moreover, once you read, you
read a document. This is

617
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,990
investigative journalism. I did
more than that, John. But first,

618
00:36:24,990 --> 00:36:28,170
let's Moreover, let's listen to
Red Rover Red Rover.

619
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,190
Moreover, after an extended
review of our use of drones in

620
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,550
the fight against terrorist
networks, I believed a fresh

621
00:36:35,550 --> 00:36:39,060
examination of our surveillance
programmes was a necessary next

622
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:42,660
step in our effort to get off
the open ended war footing that

623
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:46,290
we've maintained since 911. And
for these reasons, I indicated

624
00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:49,710
in a speech at the National
Defence University last May,

625
00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:53,160
that we needed a more robust
public discussion about the

626
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,590
balance between security and
liberty. Now. No,

627
00:36:58,620 --> 00:37:03,150
I heard something new here. Did
you hear that? What was new?

628
00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:07,140
We need a more balanced
discussion of the B of the

629
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,420
security versus Liberty debate.

630
00:37:09,779 --> 00:37:15,509
Well, I have never heard the
President say security versus

631
00:37:15,539 --> 00:37:20,489
liberty. I have heard him say
security or privacy versus

632
00:37:20,489 --> 00:37:26,339
freedoms and liberties that we
hold but not liberty. And I

633
00:37:26,339 --> 00:37:28,199
there's I think there's a big
distinction

634
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,050
between a limb I'm all ears go
on. Okay. So

635
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,120
if you're not if, if you have no
liberty, you're in jail. Or your

636
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,630
or whatever. It could be a
physical jail, or I've never

637
00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:44,160
heard him say, Liberty. So when
he claimed and this is the

638
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,930
speech, the one he's referring
to in May, is the speech where

639
00:37:48,930 --> 00:37:50,580
the Code Pink Lady interrupted,

640
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,640
it would be normally security
versus privacy.

641
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:57,780
And let's just listen again,
what he's saying. He's saying

642
00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:03,030
something different here. That
liberty, sorry, backup just

643
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:03,360
another.

644
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:07,020
They're not even don't know,
these guys don't just want to

645
00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:11,040
take our or eliminate privacy.
They want to take our liberty.

646
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:13,800
Well, that's what this is why I
caught this, I listened again,

647
00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:18,000
about the balance between
security and liberty, security

648
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:22,230
and liberty. So not security and
privacy, not privacy and

649
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:26,070
freedoms, security, and liberty.
And these two things are the

650
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:30,060
same, the different sides of the
same coin. Now you can be kept

651
00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:35,670
secure, in house arrest it
anyway. And I'm like, Whoa, hold

652
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:38,250
on a second. I'm gonna go back
and listen to that speech. But

653
00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:41,460
let's listen to the next line.
He says. So he's saying the

654
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:45,210
speech I did the one where the
Code Pink Lady interrupted and

655
00:38:45,210 --> 00:38:48,810
was about the drone usage. And
he says, that's when I went,

656
00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:55,440
when I started this, all I
Barack Hussein Obama, I said, we

657
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,540
got to have a conversation about
security and liberty.

658
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:05,280
Of course, what I did not know
at the time is that within weeks

659
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,360
of my speech, an avalanche of
unauthorised disclosures would

660
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,570
spark controversies at home and
abroad that have continued to

661
00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:13,080
this day

662
00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:18,750
because indeed, not more than
four or five weeks after this

663
00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:21,810
speech, where the President
said, apparently something about

664
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:27,510
a balance between security and
liberty, Edward Snowden released

665
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:33,780
his documents coincidence. Let's
go back to May 23. And listen to

666
00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:35,790
what the President actually
said,

667
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:39,510
affording homegrown plots
presents particular challenges

668
00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:42,960
in part because of our proud
commitment to civil liberties

669
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,500
for all who call America home.
That's why in the years to come,

670
00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:52,800
we will have to keep working
hard to strike the appropriate

671
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,340
balance between our need for
security and preserving those

672
00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:57,660
freedoms that make us who we are

673
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:01,830
very different from private from
Uh, Liberty liberty. Yeah, very,

674
00:40:01,830 --> 00:40:02,040
very

675
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,090
different freedoms.

676
00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:04,620
So I, when I heard that

677
00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:08,610
he's again, lying to the public,
just outrageously, But

678
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:09,180
wait,

679
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:10,530
there's more

680
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,060
I so I was recording this. And
remember now he Snowden has not

681
00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:18,720
happened. At this point in the
speech, there has been no huge

682
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:23,220
whistleblower controversy, no
grand Greenwald, nothing of the

683
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:24,240
sort nothing.

684
00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:26,010
This is the original speech.

685
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,390
This is the original speech,
where he did not say, liberty,

686
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:34,140
he said the freedoms that we all
think are so important is

687
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:37,530
completely different from
Liberty. And I can't just let it

688
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:38,100
play.

689
00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:43,320
That means reviewing the
authorities of law enforcement,

690
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,600
so we can intercept new types of
communication, but also building

691
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:54,000
privacy protections to prevent
abuse. That means that even

692
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,470
after Boston, we do not deport
someone or throw somebody in

693
00:40:58,470 --> 00:41:05,310
prison in the absence of
evidence. That means putting

694
00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:08,910
careful constraints on the tools
the government uses to protect

695
00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:14,910
sensitive information, such as
the state secret snuck in. And

696
00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:18,000
that means finally having a
strong Privacy and Civil

697
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,480
Liberties Board to review those
issues where our

698
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,120
counterterrorism efforts and our
values may come into tension.

699
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:30,150
Now, the Justice Department's
investigation of national

700
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:33,660
security leaks, offers a recent
example of the challenges

701
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:36,930
involved in striking the right
balance between our security and

702
00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:43,050
our open society. As Commander
in Chief, I believe we must keep

703
00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:46,740
information secret that protects
our operations and our people in

704
00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:51,810
the field. To do so we must
enforce consequences for those

705
00:41:51,810 --> 00:41:52,650
who break the law

706
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,710
consequences for those who break
the law. Remember, Snowden has

707
00:41:55,710 --> 00:41:59,010
not happened yet, at this point,
at least not in the public eye

708
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,130
and breach their commitment to
protect classified information.

709
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,530
But a free press is also
essential for our democracy.

710
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,830
That's who we are. And I'm
troubled by the possibility that

711
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:15,450
leak investigations may chill,
the investigative journalism

712
00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:17,010
that holds government
accountable,

713
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:22,950
very interesting. This somehow
is exactly the debate that is

714
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:25,140
taking place. And because

715
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,000
well, that's why

716
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:29,250
I'm setting you up.

717
00:42:29,310 --> 00:42:32,490
journalists should not be at
legal risk for doing their jobs.

718
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:37,440
Our focus must be on those who
break the law. And that's why

719
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,170
I've called on Congress to pass
a media shield law to guard

720
00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:44,760
against government overreach.
And I've raised these issues

721
00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:47,250
with the Attorney General who
shares my concerns. So he's

722
00:42:47,250 --> 00:42:51,300
agreed to review existing
department of justice guidelines

723
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:54,300
governing investigations that
involve reporters.

724
00:42:54,509 --> 00:43:00,119
Okay. Now, two things happened
in the past week that I believe

725
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:06,659
so solidify, a theory that I'm
kind of feeling here. That a lot

726
00:43:06,659 --> 00:43:09,389
of a lot of things, at least the
timing of things had been said

727
00:43:09,389 --> 00:43:13,529
they may have known about this.
But we know for sure, when the

728
00:43:13,529 --> 00:43:17,759
President hates the internet
press hates anything alternative

729
00:43:17,999 --> 00:43:21,149
wants complete control of the
mainstream. Hello, Rachel

730
00:43:21,149 --> 00:43:25,169
Maddow, I'm looking at you. All
of this stuff is is well known.

731
00:43:25,379 --> 00:43:28,799
So the final thing that we need
is our media shield law, which

732
00:43:28,799 --> 00:43:31,829
we discussed at this time. And
of course, I put the links in

733
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:35,339
the show notes once again, where
we had the amendment to the

734
00:43:35,339 --> 00:43:39,569
media shield law, which is
appropriately titled, something

735
00:43:39,569 --> 00:43:42,719
like the free flow of
information act from Senator

736
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,009
Dianne Feinstein says, Oh, you
have to have at least worked for

737
00:43:47,069 --> 00:43:52,469
an official news gathering
organisation for five years and

738
00:43:52,469 --> 00:43:55,559
all these bull crap that's
licenced and yes, licencing.

739
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:59,069
Exactly. Now, listen, what
happened just in the past weeks

740
00:43:59,069 --> 00:43:59,159
and

741
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,000
other world news, Edward
Snowden, the NSA contractor who

742
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,240
took a treasure trove of the
agency's secrets and link them

743
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:10,230
to the world. He isn't a
journalist Oh is a journalists

744
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:13,710
dream source which is why today
and news we're breaking right

745
00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:16,710
now on the lead the freedom of
the press foundation is

746
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:20,130
announcing that Snowden is
joining its board of directors

747
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:23,280
Daniel Ellsberg is a co founder
of the freedom of the press

748
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,770
foundation. You will of course
remember him as the former US

749
00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:28,740
military analyst who gave the
infamous Pentagon Papers

750
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:31,260
and listen very closely closely
with with Jake Tapper, of

751
00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:35,280
course, you know, he's part of
the establishment. He is now

752
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,400
defining the line that the
President laid out very

753
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,660
carefully in May, between people
who break the law and leak

754
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:46,050
sensitive classified information
violating the state's Secrets

755
00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:50,130
Act and good journalist, the
approved journalist journalists

756
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:52,740
who are actually journalist, not
just someone who's not a

757
00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:53,670
journalist

758
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:57,900
to the New York Times back in
1971. Mr. Ellsberg thanks so

759
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,440
much for being here. Why has As
the organisation decided to add

760
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,590
Snowden to the Board of
Directors, even though he's not

761
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:06,060
actually a journalist

762
00:45:06,090 --> 00:45:09,330
now, and of course Ellsberg goes
in, and I believe, what's that

763
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,020
Ellsberg is probably non
complicit in this. He really is

764
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:17,160
like, Hey, I'm not a journalist
either. But you know, the whole

765
00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:21,180
concept of having journalists
and leakers go hand in hand, you

766
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:24,090
need both of these things in
order for it to happen. But the

767
00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:29,400
mainstream is making this very,
very clear distinction, best

768
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,600
portrayed by I guess it was
Friday night's interview of

769
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:39,480
Glenn Greenwald. On the Bill
Maher show, Bill Maher, who is a

770
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,950
known operative of the
Democratic Party gave a thought

771
00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:47,100
a million dollars to President
Obama's reelection campaign a

772
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:50,760
million dollars. I think that
that for a minute, I think that

773
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,080
makes him a compromised asset.
So when you give a million

774
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,530
dollars you can get, you can
certainly get an ambassadorship.

775
00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:01,260
There's a lot of things you can
get you gave it to a Super PAC,

776
00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:03,900
but it's irrelevant, but it was
he made it very clear this is to

777
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,780
help get President Obama
reelected, and he wasn't keeping

778
00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:10,740
it quiet now. So you could think
that maybe someone would put a

779
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:14,100
call out and said, Here's what
we're gonna do. You get this

780
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,070
Greenwald on and you're going to
make your jokes. But the point

781
00:46:17,070 --> 00:46:21,660
is, we want to discredit anybody
else. Certainly anyone on the

782
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,960
internet is not a journalist. I

783
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,390
understand that. I just think
there is something to be said

784
00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:31,470
for. Well, if it's all open, why
don't we get to choose who

785
00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:32,580
decides now I think I

786
00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:35,970
said here is what what Bill
Maher is bringing up he's

787
00:46:35,970 --> 00:46:39,510
saying, Who decides what is to
be published from this from

788
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:44,730
these documents, illegally given
to you by the crazy Kook, Edward

789
00:46:44,730 --> 00:46:48,900
Snowden. And you'll hear exactly
what Bill Maher is doing.

790
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,730
If we were going to decide
you're actually would be a

791
00:46:50,730 --> 00:46:53,520
pretty good guy to decide.
Because I respect you when I

792
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,090
liked it. I think

793
00:46:54,090 --> 00:46:56,070
you're very smart. So
apparently, Bill Maher can

794
00:46:56,070 --> 00:46:57,660
decide who can be a reporter.

795
00:46:57,810 --> 00:47:01,110
But what if it was Perez Hilton?
Oh, oh,

796
00:47:01,740 --> 00:47:06,660
very funny. But the point is
crazy guy on the internet with a

797
00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:13,560
big audience. Not a valid
journalist who says Perez Hilton

798
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,820
is not a journalist,

799
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:18,510
just because I would testify in
court that he is of course he

800
00:47:18,510 --> 00:47:18,630
is.

801
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:23,010
And he's it's not my my not a
topic of interest to me. But

802
00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:26,340
he's most definitely a
journalist. But here you see,

803
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,070
he's ridiculed and the
audience's

804
00:47:30,510 --> 00:47:34,110
audience. We don't know how much
that's cranked up either, but go

805
00:47:34,110 --> 00:47:34,680
on. And Bill

806
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,870
Maher is gonna take it even a
little bit further, because of

807
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:39,990
course, you have to make
everyone on the internet sound

808
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:43,530
like a crazy conspiracy
theorist. Crazy.

809
00:47:43,770 --> 00:47:49,800
Okay. Let me let me let me just
ask you this. I mean, I also

810
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,380
respect Edward Snowden.
Obviously, this debate wouldn't

811
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:54,960
be happening without Edward
Snowden. But I was wondering if

812
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,690
you would agree with me that
every time he opens his mouth,

813
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:00,750
he also says something
completely nuts. He reminds me a

814
00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:04,980
lot of Ron Paul, I agree with
what he says I nod along. And

815
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:07,800
then he says something totally
batshit. This is

816
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,850
essentially saying anyone who
believes, or the message of Ron

817
00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:17,040
Paul, or the his so called
message of liberty, and you're

818
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,090
on the internet, you're batshit
crazy, which is a favourite of

819
00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:21,990
progressive that

820
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:25,020
she likes to use. And yeah, let
me mention something else in

821
00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:29,220
this little thing he's doing. He
does the thing, which I brought

822
00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:31,890
up before I dislike it when I
hear it because I know it's a

823
00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:36,570
salesman's technique. Adam,
would you agree? Yeah, exactly.

824
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,900
Adam, would you agree that he
used would you agree?

825
00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:41,940
Would you agree these shoes look
great on her?

826
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:43,950
Would you agree?

827
00:48:44,399 --> 00:48:50,129
Yeah. No, it's because he is on
board with the programme. And I

828
00:48:50,129 --> 00:48:54,719
think that this this speech,
what is happening right now, we

829
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,249
may have the way people look at
Section 215. Like oh, this huge,

830
00:48:59,249 --> 00:49:03,839
oh, this metadata is bullcrap.
Whatever the real meat and

831
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:08,969
potatoes is, has been going on
since way before 911. Executive

832
00:49:08,969 --> 00:49:13,589
Order 12333. And that and all
information, including content

833
00:49:13,619 --> 00:49:18,209
is, is is being collected and
stored and parsed through and

834
00:49:18,209 --> 00:49:20,879
it's all completely legal within
the system that is not being

835
00:49:20,879 --> 00:49:24,119
discussed. So here's this little
play that is being rolled out.

836
00:49:24,269 --> 00:49:27,779
And President Obama, what he
says these people who write this

837
00:49:27,779 --> 00:49:32,279
for him are smart, okay, they're
smart. And now we see that he's

838
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:37,049
he has a call back to his
speech, where he, the visionary

839
00:49:37,499 --> 00:49:42,449
brought up this balance between
real journalists and those who

840
00:49:42,449 --> 00:49:46,319
leak secrets. And we need to
have real journalists, as you

841
00:49:46,349 --> 00:49:50,609
say, correctly, John licenced,
and this and this is probably

842
00:49:50,609 --> 00:49:54,119
what's bothering me about Glenn
Greenwald. He's got he's got to

843
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:58,589
be on board with some team some
programmes somehow. Otherwise,

844
00:49:58,619 --> 00:50:01,109
none of this would happen. He's
been being set as the shining

845
00:50:01,109 --> 00:50:05,669
example. And not only is he
being protected, he's being

846
00:50:05,669 --> 00:50:14,489
financed by pure a mini mini
Comey car. And let me just just

847
00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:17,189
listen to the rest of this Bill
Maher thing because it's so

848
00:50:17,189 --> 00:50:18,059
obvious now to me.

849
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:22,770
I mean, Edward, let me give you
some quotes cyber. Go ahead. All

850
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:23,340
right, go ahead.

851
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:28,050
Go ahead. But, you know, you go
ahead, please after you go

852
00:50:28,050 --> 00:50:29,640
ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead,

853
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,990
please. All right, go ahead.

854
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:35,010
He said these programmes were
never about terrorism. They were

855
00:50:35,010 --> 00:50:38,130
about social control and
diplomatic manipulation. Well,

856
00:50:38,130 --> 00:50:40,860
that's crazy. They were about
stopping terrorism. They may

857
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:44,160
have gone too far. But if crazy,
everybody in the government

858
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,240
isn't out to get you,

859
00:50:45,299 --> 00:50:48,329
oh, boy, everybody in the
government isn't out to get you.

860
00:50:48,389 --> 00:50:53,519
In other words, if you have any
other thoughts than that this is

861
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:57,269
about terrorism. You're a
conspiracy theorist, obviously,

862
00:50:57,329 --> 00:51:01,169
a nut job on the internet. Who
loves Ron Paul, who was batshit

863
00:51:01,169 --> 00:51:01,769
crazy.

864
00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:05,340
He said they can use this system
to go back in time and

865
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:08,670
scrutinise every decision you've
ever made. Every friend you've

866
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:14,220
ever discussed something with?
This is nuts right now.

867
00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:20,340
And I'm pretty sure that Glenn
Greenwald is. He's He's so

868
00:51:20,340 --> 00:51:22,590
narcissistic. He's just being
played. I don't think he

869
00:51:22,590 --> 00:51:23,520
actually knows

870
00:51:23,550 --> 00:51:26,910
I agree with you. 100%. On what
you're saying now? Yeah. Yeah,

871
00:51:26,910 --> 00:51:31,710
he's being played. Right. played
played? Yeah, he's on the TV.

872
00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:34,710
No, Bill, what's not just the
fact that you think that's nuts.

873
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:37,830
And let me just explain why. A
lot of the stories that we've

874
00:51:37,830 --> 00:51:41,490
reported have nothing to do with
terrorism. They're spying on

875
00:51:41,490 --> 00:51:44,940
economic summits in Latin
America, oil companies in

876
00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:47,940
Brazil, democratically elected
leaders of our closest allies

877
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:50,520
who have nothing to do with
terrorism. His point is that of

878
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,370
course, some of this is directed
at terrorism. But this massive

879
00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:56,730
system that has been built a
huge bulk of it has nothing to

880
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:59,850
do with national security. It
has to do with the reason that

881
00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:02,580
people in political power always
want to surveil their

882
00:52:02,610 --> 00:52:06,270
populations is because it does
give greater power. And as far

883
00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:08,610
as slowing down the internet
that comes right from documents

884
00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:11,910
that we published, where the NSA
collects everything, and then

885
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:14,700
stores it for a long enough time
to, in their words, slow down

886
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:17,910
the internet, so that they can
go back at any time and see your

887
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:21,210
entire history where you browse,
what kind of search terms you've

888
00:52:21,210 --> 00:52:23,730
entered with whom you've been
speaking. I mean, look, he's a

889
00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:26,940
29 year old who's not a trained
politician. He doesn't have AIDS

890
00:52:26,970 --> 00:52:29,730
whispering in his ear, what he
should say he's not adept at

891
00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:31,890
that. That's what makes him so
impressive. But he's

892
00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:37,140
not a journalist. Clearly he
hasn't. Greenwald is falling

893
00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:40,350
right into the trap here. Of
course, he's a 29 year old

894
00:52:40,350 --> 00:52:42,360
schmuck. He doesn't know
anything. He's got no one

895
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,130
whispering in his ear didn't
have anything. He's not a

896
00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:46,890
politician. He's not a
journalist. That's I'm the dirt

897
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:48,960
I'm a journalist. I'm a
journalist, how much I'm going

898
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,110
to be licenced, licenced and
paid for is an

899
00:52:52,110 --> 00:52:55,200
act of conscience, that he just
stepped forward as an ordinary

900
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,970
person. And I'm not and did
this.

901
00:52:57,060 --> 00:53:00,090
No one. No one is. No one is
arguing with that. Glenn. What I

902
00:53:00,090 --> 00:53:00,900
said is

903
00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:05,100
listen to Bill, talk over the
applause to shut it down. Every

904
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:05,340
time

905
00:53:05,340 --> 00:53:08,220
he opens his mouth. He always
says something fucking nuts. And

906
00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:09,600
when he says fucking nuts

907
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,270
there you go, Bill. That's
right. Because that's what we

908
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:15,720
are on the internet. We're all
just fucking nuts. Ron Paul

909
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:20,100
crazy. batshit crazy. Kooky a
government's out to get me

910
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,740
people. Every

911
00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:23,910
friend they know.

912
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:27,810
Anyway. Yeah, that is a great
catch of him stepping on the

913
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:30,150
audience because he was never
going to give an evergreen

914
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:31,200
rolled around of applause.

915
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,650
No, no friend you've ever
discussed something with we'll

916
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:37,740
just have to agree to disagree
on what's fucking nuts. Okay.

917
00:53:39,210 --> 00:53:42,720
We'll agree, Bill when the
legislation licencing is in

918
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,970
place. That's when we'll agree
what's fucking nuts or what's

919
00:53:44,970 --> 00:53:45,570
journalists?

920
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,870
Okay, one final question. What
would happen if you came home

921
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:49,200
now?

922
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,470
Well, this, of course, is a
great question.

923
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,830
It's a good question. It's one
that we've been trying to find

924
00:53:55,830 --> 00:53:58,380
out the answer to, and the
government doesn't seem to want

925
00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:00,810
to share with us their thoughts
on that question. There's

926
00:54:00,810 --> 00:54:03,960
obviously been a lot of leading
media and political figures who

927
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,840
have advocated that what I've
done is criminal. What other

928
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,300
journalists have done is
criminal. He's so

929
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:13,410
making the point for everybody.
Glenn Greenwald, don't you see,

930
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,590
you are now actually setting it
up. You're going to get an

931
00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:20,460
approved stamp as a journalist
to travel freely, everyone else

932
00:54:20,460 --> 00:54:24,030
will be shut down. You, my
friend are single handedly

933
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:29,190
ruining open journalism. You are
anti constitutional. The British

934
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:32,280
government, the servant of the
United States government is

935
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,860
claiming that what we've done is
terrorism. There's criminal

936
00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:37,650
investigations pending. So I'm
not gonna go ahead and roll the

937
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:39,720
dice. We're trying to find out
as much as we can. And at the

938
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:40,860
moment, wait, wait,

939
00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:42,450
wait for Bill's final word.

940
00:54:42,450 --> 00:54:45,690
I mean, the US government is not
too talkative on on those

941
00:54:45,690 --> 00:54:46,380
questions.

942
00:54:46,530 --> 00:54:49,320
All right. Well, you can stay in
my guest house if you're not.

943
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,610
That's great. That's right,
because there's gonna be a lot

944
00:54:53,610 --> 00:54:58,020
of people in your guest house.
Alright, so that is what I think

945
00:54:58,050 --> 00:55:02,940
and of course, I looked it up it
Here's that the free flow of

946
00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:06,450
information act is number 203.
On the congressional calendar,

947
00:55:06,450 --> 00:55:09,450
it was put there end of
November. I'm pretty sure this

948
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:12,750
is going to come up for a vote
with the amendments by Dianne

949
00:55:12,750 --> 00:55:17,610
Feinstein to determine who is a
journalist and therefore who can

950
00:55:17,610 --> 00:55:22,140
legally look at things. And we
just think about Grindr hang on

951
00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:26,220
for a second with all the
technologies we know that are

952
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:29,670
available, I mean, I'd like to
know does he receive encrypted

953
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:34,650
messages from Snowden then put
them on some kind of secure USB

954
00:55:34,650 --> 00:55:38,970
device then take him to a non
networked computer to decrypt

955
00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:42,720
them that is in a Faraday cage
you know so that no one can see

956
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,660
whatever he's doing? Are you
telling me our our our great

957
00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:49,470
massive intelligence has no idea
what documents are there because

958
00:55:49,470 --> 00:55:53,670
they can't there's no way they
can get into Glenn Greenwald's

959
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:58,470
systems seriously. You can't
people you can't believe on one

960
00:55:58,470 --> 00:56:02,610
hand that they can turn on your
iPhone remotely and and get your

961
00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:06,990
screen captures through magical
radio waves, which I'm all in

962
00:56:06,990 --> 00:56:09,120
unbelieving and then think that
they don't know what Glenn

963
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,930
Greenwald has. Okay. So in
because he's in Brazil, that's

964
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:16,470
like some magical barrier that
we can send agents of Brazil,

965
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:20,820
Brazil, Brazil, to fund

966
00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:22,740
assets in Brazil,

967
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:28,350
to not kind of hop on the heels
of what what was discussed here.

968
00:56:28,380 --> 00:56:32,400
What was this? So this was the
show this all led this crazy

969
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,580
speech of Obama's which was a
useless piece of crap. And what

970
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:39,750
I can tell ya is leading led you
to the our old thought that

971
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:41,850
they're going to licence
journalists is that you made

972
00:56:41,850 --> 00:56:42,120
that

973
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,450
you drove that car through that
road. That's my conclusion. Yes.

974
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:49,650
And that's what Miki quote
unquote, grokked immediately.

975
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,920
Well, we've talked about it
before. It's not that this new

976
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,760
No, but

977
00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:57,420
but they're the ones that made
the call back to the speech and

978
00:56:57,420 --> 00:57:01,500
the speech. That's before
Snowden. before Snowden was

979
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:01,980
known

980
00:57:02,190 --> 00:57:04,560
to Okay, I just thought it would
you I think you leaked here and

981
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,260
there somewhere. I don't know
how but no, not very convincing

982
00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:07,830
a good

983
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:12,510
couple of amendments to
executive order 12333 that are

984
00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:19,020
of interest, August 27 2004.
Executive Order 13355. I love

985
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:21,510
all the magic numbers in these
executive orders. I think we do

986
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:25,650
have to point that out. Just for
a second. It's just a lot of

987
00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:29,100
that going on here. It's it
could all be quickly, complete

988
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,150
coincidence, but

989
00:57:30,509 --> 00:57:32,309
it needs to be more maddening.
Yeah.

990
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,350
So this one is to strengthen the
the authority of the Director of

991
00:57:37,350 --> 00:57:42,450
Central Intelligence. And for
the Director of National

992
00:57:42,450 --> 00:57:45,120
Intelligence to act as the
Principal Advisor to the

993
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,550
President for intelligence
matters related to national

994
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:52,020
security to ensure that the
National Foreign Intelligence

995
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:55,680
programme which we have not
heard about the NFIP, have you

996
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,350
heard of this anywhere in the in
recent days? Actually,

997
00:57:58,350 --> 00:58:00,870
I have. I would think we even
mentioned it once and never did

998
00:58:00,870 --> 00:58:02,250
much with her information

999
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:05,940
so that the NFIP is structured
adequately to achieve these

1000
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:09,330
requirements. And to ensure that
the United States intelligence

1001
00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:12,420
collection activities are
integrated into collecting

1002
00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:15,810
against enduring and emerging
national security intelligence

1003
00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:21,570
issues, to really integrating
the full blown full content, not

1004
00:58:21,570 --> 00:58:25,470
just metadata, collection of
your communications and

1005
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,580
subsection one, DOD six A, the
heads of all departments and

1006
00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:32,730
agencies shall unless the
director provides otherwise give

1007
00:58:32,730 --> 00:58:35,250
the director access to all
foreign intelligence,

1008
00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:38,250
counterintelligence and national
intelligence as defined in the

1009
00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:44,820
act. So there's your complete
aggregation of all of this

1010
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:45,570
information,

1011
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:49,230
then we do many layers. This is
hurting the country.

1012
00:58:50,190 --> 00:58:58,170
Then on we have executive order
13470 July 30 2008. And this,

1013
00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:00,870
the United States intelligence
effort shall provide the

1014
00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:03,030
President the National Security
Council and the Homeland

1015
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:08,670
Security Council with the
necessary information to which

1016
00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:10,590
the base decisions concerning
development conduct foreign

1017
00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:15,030
defence economic policies. So it
says right here in order to help

1018
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:18,270
the President shape economic
policies, the need to give the

1019
00:59:18,270 --> 00:59:21,750
spying information to the
President for economic policies,

1020
00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:29,610
okay, economic not terrorism.
Here's a list the top three

1021
00:59:29,610 --> 00:59:32,580
things intelligence collection
under this order. And again,

1022
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:35,730
this is back to one two, triple
three should be guided by the

1023
00:59:35,730 --> 00:59:40,110
need for information to respond
to intelligence priorities set

1024
00:59:40,110 --> 00:59:44,490
by the President. So there's
three priorities. Number three,

1025
00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:48,720
that's the bottom priority
threats to the United States and

1026
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,580
its interests from the
development possession,

1027
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:54,510
proliferation or use of weapons
of mass destruction. Number two,

1028
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:57,750
so not the top but number two
threats to the United States and

1029
00:59:57,750 --> 01:00:04,320
its interests from terrorism.
And number one, espionage. So

1030
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:10,650
don't lie to me. This is about
espionage spying on other

1031
01:00:10,650 --> 01:00:15,000
countries for political and
economic policies. That's your

1032
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,630
number one priority according to
the executive order that the

1033
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:25,440
President has signed on to. And
he hasn't changed it. To let's

1034
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,310
not pussyfoot around, and let's
just be honest. And I'm okay

1035
01:00:29,310 --> 01:00:33,060
with that. Because we're
America. And we spy on people

1036
01:00:33,060 --> 01:00:36,840
and we kick their ass and we own
you, Mitch. And that's okay, but

1037
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:43,050
just say it. Don't give me this
this terrorism. And let's not

1038
01:00:43,050 --> 01:00:46,350
get any smart people in here who
can figure it out? We need to

1039
01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:50,340
this show is doomed. We're
doomed. Fucking doom. John

1040
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:51,750
would die can get a licence?

1041
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:55,020
How about me? I can't get a
licence.

1042
01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,020
Okay, just, I'll just up my
sidekick.

1043
01:00:58,890 --> 01:01:00,270
Push it. I can do colour.

1044
01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:02,340
I can do colour commentary.

1045
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,870
I'll just go like here. Do some
analysis, John. And I'll and

1046
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:08,010
I'll play my part.

1047
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:14,130
Well, the way I see it. You're
so funny. The President's got it

1048
01:01:14,130 --> 01:01:15,090
backwards. You

1049
01:01:15,090 --> 01:01:17,250
are the best John C. Dvorak.

1050
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,710
Ah, I can live with that. Yeah,

1051
01:01:19,770 --> 01:01:24,060
I bet you could. Alright, let me
wrap this up with two clips.

1052
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:30,240
Feinstein and Rogers. Oh, we're
on. This is fantastic. This I'm

1053
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,880
in fact, I'm going to line this
up just in i think i think i

1054
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,990
think i might get a clip of the
day. Feinstein and Rogers were

1055
01:01:36,990 --> 01:01:38,040
both on

1056
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:40,859
what are you pre selling it as a
clip of the day, you know, every

1057
01:01:40,859 --> 01:01:44,099
you know, every time I try that
on you, you reject you go out of

1058
01:01:44,099 --> 01:01:44,939
your way to reject.

1059
01:01:45,779 --> 01:01:48,239
I'm okay, I'm dumping the clip.
It's not going to happen. They

1060
01:01:48,239 --> 01:01:53,849
will not be clipped to the day.
So Senator Dianne Feinstein and

1061
01:01:54,059 --> 01:01:56,909
Mike Rogers, who's not a
senator, as he's a Congressman,

1062
01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:58,709
I keep forgetting. Well, they're
both.

1063
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,960
She's the head of the Senate.
He's the head of the

1064
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,210
congressional biologists group
operation.

1065
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,960
So these are the two people who
represent the people of the

1066
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:12,870
citizens of the United States of
Gitmo nation. represent us in

1067
01:02:12,930 --> 01:02:16,860
oversight of oh crap John

1068
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:20,700
holds to keep these agencies
from running wild. Yeah,

1069
01:02:20,730 --> 01:02:22,710
exactly. Well, my mind but
they've done none of them.

1070
01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:25,350
They've done none of the above.
They're actually encouraging it.

1071
01:02:25,410 --> 01:02:28,740
Yes. And then people really
should be rebuked.

1072
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,580
I think when you hear what
they're about to say, rebuked is

1073
01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:36,690
very moderate, very mild. Here's
Feinstein. Remember, this is the

1074
01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:40,530
person who knows everything
knows all about everything

1075
01:02:40,530 --> 01:02:44,760
that's going on and oversees all
of these programmes for you if

1076
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,050
you're an American citizen,

1077
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,370
and you know, I think a lot of
the privacy people

1078
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,300
hold on a second the privacy
people Oh, John, who are the

1079
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:57,900
privacy people you know what the
privacy people are completely

1080
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:01,470
batshit crazy. Yes. batshit
crazy complaining whining

1081
01:03:01,470 --> 01:03:05,520
internet Ron Paul loving nut job
fucking crazy people that

1082
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,480
privacy people. Dianne
Feinstein, I wish you I wish you

1083
01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:10,920
very bad things.

1084
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:16,410
And you know, I think a lot of
the privacy people perhaps don't

1085
01:03:16,410 --> 01:03:21,090
understand that. We still occupy
the role of the great Satan.

1086
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Okay, let me just get this
straight. That we are the great

1087
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:30,660
Satan in the world. Then all
other religious groups think

1088
01:03:30,660 --> 01:03:35,010
that we are Lucifer and we are
the great Satan. And that's what

1089
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:38,400
the privacy people okay because
that's how she thinks about us.

1090
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,900
If fucking privacy people you
pee on privacy people, what do

1091
01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:43,890
you think you are?

1092
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,560
New bombs are being devised

1093
01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:51,120
new bombs. New moms are being
divided bombs in basements in

1094
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:51,750
Boston. Let's

1095
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:53,010
drop the other two bombs. They

1096
01:03:53,010 --> 01:03:56,970
worked okay. New bombs. New
bombs sounds scarier because you

1097
01:03:56,970 --> 01:04:00,690
know new bombs have new ways of
exploding new it's new from the

1098
01:04:00,690 --> 01:04:06,990
Bisco you're trying to get
Feinstein's crazy shit out. More

1099
01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:12,930
Satan. New bombs are being
devised. New New terrorists are

1100
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:13,620
emerging

1101
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:16,950
new terrorists are emerging as a
new terrorists born every day a

1102
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:21,450
new kind of terrorist, new John
new new from Mattel new

1103
01:04:21,450 --> 01:04:23,550
terrorists new fresh good
looking,

1104
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:25,770
you're the one now interrupting
her I have

1105
01:04:25,770 --> 01:04:28,110
to because this is how people
this is how you sell something

1106
01:04:28,110 --> 01:04:31,830
to the American public. You take
the same crap, put it in the box

1107
01:04:31,890 --> 01:04:35,370
with a shiny label and put new
on it and people buy it.

1108
01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:39,270
It'd be new and improved. That
would be better new groups,

1109
01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:43,320
new groups that bring an ABA
back did you hear about it

1110
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,610
actually? Coming back. I was
coming back new and improved

1111
01:04:47,610 --> 01:04:49,380
with bombs and groups and
terrorist

1112
01:04:49,410 --> 01:04:54,000
groups. Actually a new level of
viciousness, a new level

1113
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,310
of visions is there's
viciousness, then there's this

1114
01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:59,370
whole new level of viciousness
that you have not seen.

1115
01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:04,380
And I think we need to be
prepared. I think we need to do

1116
01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:08,820
it in a way that respects
people's privacy rights. Well,

1117
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:10,230
let me make

1118
01:05:10,260 --> 01:05:12,930
notice, she says respects
people's privacy rights, but not

1119
01:05:12,930 --> 01:05:14,460
actually respects their privacy

1120
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:20,250
point. When you look at what
companies collect the

1121
01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:24,570
government, it does not seem to
be a major offender at all.

1122
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:30,870
Oh, thanks for bringing that
mean back in you, hey, you let

1123
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:34,020
Google and Yahoo and Facebook
and Twitter take all your

1124
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:38,670
information. Wow, that's it. You
have no problem with that, then

1125
01:05:38,670 --> 01:05:41,820
certainly, you can let the same
kind of information go into the

1126
01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:44,760
government, because we're going
to protect you from New bombs,

1127
01:05:44,820 --> 01:05:49,440
new terrorist new groups, and a
new level of viciousness.

1128
01:05:49,710 --> 01:05:52,350
Seriously, think about that. And
the difference, of course,

1129
01:05:52,350 --> 01:05:55,260
Chairman, that is only the
government that can deprive you

1130
01:05:55,260 --> 01:05:58,320
of your liberty, you know,
Google or Amazon, that's still

1131
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,420
you still have to click to
acquiesce tonight, even though

1132
01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:03,270
they have a lot of that personal
information. And I always love

1133
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:05,820
how it's always Google or
Amazon. It's never the real

1134
01:06:05,820 --> 01:06:09,780
guys. Never Facebook. Never
Taught never is it Facebook.

1135
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:10,080
Now.

1136
01:06:10,350 --> 01:06:12,120
Facebook should be number one on
the list.

1137
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:15,720
Yes, we know that the FBI, the
director of the FBI, you love

1138
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,660
to harp on this went out just
hanging out there. They probably

1139
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:21,180
have, you know, if you go to
Boeing, and you go visit the

1140
01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:25,410
corporate offices, you'll find
an office in the Boeing facility

1141
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,610
for United Airlines. If they
have an office in the bill, and

1142
01:06:29,610 --> 01:06:31,800
they're in the building, and
they sorted the other airline

1143
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,540
and I just there is probably in
office. I don't know this for a

1144
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:39,990
fact. But it would make sense
that says FBI and you go and

1145
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:42,660
they guys can go in there and
they make some calls and

1146
01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:48,120
bring up a command line. Do what
they want. So I want to remind

1147
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,940
everyone go back to the Time
magazine interview Person of the

1148
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:54,960
Year Mark Zuckerberg Facebook,
in the article itself, Robert

1149
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:00,210
Mueller, then director of the
FBI, who was instated just two

1150
01:07:00,210 --> 01:07:04,740
months before 911. just
coincidence, and whose statutory

1151
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:11,610
10 year term was extended?
Because she's so great. pokes

1152
01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:14,550
his head head into the
conference room door while

1153
01:07:14,550 --> 01:07:17,610
Zuckerberg is being interviewed
and says oh, hey, yeah, I just

1154
01:07:17,610 --> 01:07:20,130
want to say hi. I've been in the
building for a couple hours.

1155
01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:24,750
Yeah, in his office. I've been
I've been cleaning. What else

1156
01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:27,090
would it be? He can't be just
roaming around aimlessly with a

1157
01:07:27,090 --> 01:07:31,590
cup of coffee. He has an office.
Right?

1158
01:07:31,770 --> 01:07:38,490
I guess we should we should get
the let me see. FBI base book.

1159
01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:42,540
New I'm just trying to think
what was that actual quote? It

1160
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:46,290
was really funny. It was so off
handed. And it was in Time

1161
01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:46,860
Magazine.

1162
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:50,580
Right. And it was Zuckerberg and
nobody would took it. They

1163
01:07:50,580 --> 01:07:52,740
didn't blink an eye. Well, no

1164
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:56,760
one who read the article blinked
an eye. Oh, I'm sorry. Your

1165
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,630
technology press failed you g
surprise. Okay. Here's Mike

1166
01:08:00,630 --> 01:08:04,740
Rogers now Mike Rogers. He's
either on the tape currently, or

1167
01:08:04,740 --> 01:08:10,080
he can't wait to get out and be
just so rich. Me so he's going

1168
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:15,600
to be leave his wife rich. This
guy. For Russian and bimbos.

1169
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:18,030
This guy is he's setting himself
up so big time.

1170
01:08:18,179 --> 01:08:21,419
This was a thief who we believe
had some help.

1171
01:08:21,569 --> 01:08:25,049
Okay, hold on, whoa, whoa, new
information.

1172
01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:26,640
That's new information.

1173
01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:28,560
It's new information new and
improved.

1174
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:36,300
And who's we? You got me on that
one. All right, onward. Okay.

1175
01:08:36,330 --> 01:08:37,680
This is new information.

1176
01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:43,110
This was a thief who we believe
had some help, who stole

1177
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:46,890
information. The vast majority
had nothing to do with privacy.

1178
01:08:46,980 --> 01:08:50,970
Our Army, Navy, Air Force
Marines have been incredibly

1179
01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:55,110
harmed by the data that he has
taken with them. And we believe

1180
01:08:55,140 --> 01:08:57,720
now is in the hands of nation
states. What helped did he have

1181
01:08:57,750 --> 01:08:59,100
who helped him do? Well,

1182
01:08:59,130 --> 01:09:02,460
good question. Chip Gregory.
You're on script who helped him?

1183
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:05,070
There were certain questions
that we have to get answered.

1184
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,700
Where some of this a first of
all, if it was a privacy concern

1185
01:09:08,700 --> 01:09:12,270
he had, he didn't look for
information on the privacy side

1186
01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:15,240
for Americans. He was stealing
information that had to do with

1187
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,630
how we operate overseas to
collect information to keep

1188
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:23,010
Americans safe. That that's begs
the question in some of the

1189
01:09:23,010 --> 01:09:27,780
things that he did were beyond
his technical capabilities. Yes,

1190
01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:28,050
hold

1191
01:09:28,049 --> 01:09:33,029
on, hold on. new information,
new information, people. I got

1192
01:09:33,029 --> 01:09:34,769
new information questions.

1193
01:09:35,460 --> 01:09:40,290
How he arranged travel before he
left. How he had he was ready to

1194
01:09:40,290 --> 01:09:44,460
go he had a go bag if you will.
Whoa, he had a go bag

1195
01:09:44,460 --> 01:09:48,720
information man. New shit has
come to light and how he but how

1196
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,720
x eye level do you think who
well, I will let me just say

1197
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,590
this. I believe there's a reason
he ended up in the hands. The

1198
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:59,940
loving arms of an FSB agent Oh,

1199
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,940
Could that be Sarah Harrison?
The former girlfriend of Julian

1200
01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:10,530
Assange? The loving he said he's
he goes out of his way to say

1201
01:10:10,530 --> 01:10:14,490
the loving arms you mean the
bear arms because she's wearing

1202
01:10:14,490 --> 01:10:19,470
that nice little strapless black
f me dress in Moscow and now has

1203
01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:25,230
disappeared herself to Berlin.
Ah, this is getting very

1204
01:10:25,230 --> 01:10:29,040
juicy in Moscow. I don't think
that's a coincidence, not a

1205
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,190
coincidence. Let me just talk
about the Russia has helped that

1206
01:10:32,190 --> 01:10:32,520
stone.

1207
01:10:33,150 --> 01:10:35,340
I believe there's questions to
be answered there.

1208
01:10:35,370 --> 01:10:39,300
i Well, you know, the Russians,
I'm sorry. The Russians who hate

1209
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:45,660
gays. The gay hating gay beating
target code breaking evil

1210
01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:46,410
Russians

1211
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:50,100
don't think it's it was a gee
whiz luck event that he ended up

1212
01:10:50,130 --> 01:10:54,390
in Moscow under the handling of
the FSB. That's a significant

1213
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:58,140
development if yes, Chuck.
That's a signal chip. What is

1214
01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:00,660
the I see we have we have
questions we have to answer. But

1215
01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:03,720
as somebody who used to do
investigations, some of the

1216
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,570
things we're finding we would
call clues, clues certainly

1217
01:11:06,570 --> 01:11:09,090
would indicate to me that he had
some help.

1218
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,360
What did he used to do when it
comes to investigations? This

1219
01:11:12,540 --> 01:11:15,780
was Mike Rogers. Let me just
check that. We definitely need

1220
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:21,600
to look at this. What the hell
did Mike Rogers do that he was

1221
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,440
involved in investigations. Was
he was he a DEA or something?

1222
01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:26,100
You're sure.

1223
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,540
Was he in a? Mike Rogers too
many of these guys areas?

1224
01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:32,760
I was the police officer. No, I

1225
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,040
think it was like a district
attorney. He's a lawyer. I'm

1226
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:35,520
sure of it.

1227
01:11:36,030 --> 01:11:41,040
Let me see. I'm looking I don't
really have a bachelor's degree

1228
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,580
in criminal justice. Okay. He
went to college, served the

1229
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:48,180
United States Army worked as a
special agent. Oh, okay. A

1230
01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:53,460
Special Agent with the FBI at
the Chicago office.

1231
01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:57,690
I didn't realise he was into
incidents. I didn't

1232
01:11:57,690 --> 01:12:01,320
realise he was in the shooting.
I think not in the Chicago

1233
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:06,720
Cabal. I didn't realise that. It
makes sense of course. Oh, well

1234
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,520
there you go. Yeah, he's with
the FBI. He's a he's a Fed makes

1235
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,510
so much sense.

1236
01:12:12,930 --> 01:12:16,920
Well, maybe if this is all true
based on our basic thesis which

1237
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,600
comes in goes in different forms
of strength. The people who

1238
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,010
helped him were the CIA and now
they're going after the eight

1239
01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:30,030
did what part of the agency has
turned on the NSA and they're

1240
01:12:30,030 --> 01:12:32,670
gonna they're gonna they're
gonna this was a threat this

1241
01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:33,660
this little thing

1242
01:12:34,230 --> 01:12:38,730
right here threat I totally
agree was a threat I agree level

1243
01:12:38,730 --> 01:12:38,970
that

1244
01:12:38,970 --> 01:12:44,100
the CIA for screwing with the
NSA and all the rest of it wow,

1245
01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:48,750
it was it was a veiled threat
very well done. Yeah, I'm almost

1246
01:12:48,750 --> 01:12:49,050
Clip of

1247
01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:51,390
the Day had I not set it up?

1248
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:55,860
It was almost it was it still
wasn't a god it was almost Tip

1249
01:12:55,860 --> 01:12:56,340
of the Day.

1250
01:12:56,370 --> 01:12:58,470
That's all right. I still want
to thank you for your cover. By

1251
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:58,770
the way.

1252
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,830
I'm gonna tell you how you get
wind Clip of the Day. Might when

1253
01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:04,950
you when you play with something
and my eyebrows go up?

1254
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,080
Well, let me turn on the camera
to make sure I catch that. Hold

1255
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:15,720
on one second. I gotta go. I got
an unfortunate warning here that

1256
01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:21,330
my track? Yeah, my 20 Will
Rogers my my trackpad battery is

1257
01:13:21,330 --> 01:13:28,020
extremely low. So let me just
replace, replace that. That's

1258
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:32,820
These are not easy things to do.
Because it's spring loaded that

1259
01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:33,270
little,

1260
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,290
little expensive battery. What
kind of batteries in a trackpad

1261
01:13:37,470 --> 01:13:41,040
to double A's? Oh, that's no big
deal. double A's big giant

1262
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,760
double A's?

1263
01:13:42,150 --> 01:13:44,280
No double, double A's or pen
lights?

1264
01:13:46,290 --> 01:13:48,900
Yeah, the big giant. No, no,
there's a triple A's. They're

1265
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:49,290
big.

1266
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:53,280
Well, yeah, that's true. That's
true. You know, the other day,

1267
01:13:53,310 --> 01:13:57,180
just before we move on, Miss
Mickey was in her studio, that

1268
01:13:57,180 --> 01:13:59,460
she um, she has one of these
kind of boom boxes that you

1269
01:13:59,460 --> 01:14:03,090
stick from the old old iPod
days. So the new iPods don't

1270
01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:05,340
even show the new iPhones won't
even work on it as the old

1271
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:08,730
connector, but it has a little
giant connector and and it's

1272
01:14:08,730 --> 01:14:11,580
from Europe, and for some
reason, it only has 220. So she

1273
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:13,980
can't plug it into the mains. So
she likes the box. She said

1274
01:14:13,980 --> 01:14:17,580
could you please replace the
batteries? And there are six D

1275
01:14:17,580 --> 01:14:20,040
size batteries in there. I mean,

1276
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:24,240
what? A little transformer that
would let you run to 20 All

1277
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:24,420
right,

1278
01:14:24,450 --> 01:14:28,200
that's not the point. Have you
ever held six? I mean, you look

1279
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,260
at six D size batteries. You're
thinking that a car should be

1280
01:14:31,260 --> 01:14:32,610
able to drive on these things.

1281
01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:36,690
I think you can suck enough
energy out of those in one shot.

1282
01:14:37,470 --> 01:14:41,070
Immediately you should be able
to recharge a Tesla S with those

1283
01:14:41,070 --> 01:14:44,970
things. What technology was not
that we thought these D size

1284
01:14:44,970 --> 01:14:45,570
batteries

1285
01:14:45,570 --> 01:14:48,480
were great. I haven't seen that
compared to a lantern battery.

1286
01:14:49,230 --> 01:14:49,620
Remember

1287
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:54,630
dry cells dry so do experiments
with a dry cell. We can make mac

1288
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:55,290
and we can make

1289
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:59,070
measure old dry cells but the
lantern batteries have big giant

1290
01:14:59,070 --> 01:15:00,660
square thing with the two
springs

1291
01:15:01,590 --> 01:15:08,490
yellow, usually yellow with with
red top lantern. Anyway,

1292
01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:12,750
yes, yes. And I was just gonna,
that was just reminiscing, I was

1293
01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:15,420
just gonna use those lander
batteries to start the aeroplane

1294
01:15:15,420 --> 01:15:16,590
engines for model aeroplanes.

1295
01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:20,250
Oh, yeah? I just got a new
battery for the truck yesterday

1296
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,310
did you buy interstate battery?
Those are the questions. Yes,

1297
01:15:26,340 --> 01:15:28,650
it is an interesting, it's funny
because I went to this this

1298
01:15:28,650 --> 01:15:32,250
place right around the corner is
I think a good year affiliate or

1299
01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:34,740
something. So they they sell
tires, and but you can basically

1300
01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:39,030
roll in with an American made
car and say, you know, put

1301
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:42,960
something on it make it work.
And I didn't have because the

1302
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,050
truck of the battery is so dead
and you just pick one out, we'll

1303
01:15:46,050 --> 01:15:50,100
put it in myself. So I get the I
get the battery from the guy.

1304
01:15:50,610 --> 01:15:53,010
And he's in there, Brad. He's a
nice guy, you know, older guys

1305
01:15:53,010 --> 01:15:58,980
are probably near 60. And, and
they and I say do you do the

1306
01:15:58,980 --> 01:16:01,230
emissions test as well? Because
I need to do that. Because yeah,

1307
01:16:01,230 --> 01:16:03,510
but you got to when you put the
battery in the truck, you got to

1308
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:06,300
drive it for a day or two
because the computer needs to

1309
01:16:06,570 --> 01:16:09,180
start restoring information
because it's all been flushed

1310
01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:11,970
out and otherwise we can't get
the right reading for the test.

1311
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,110
Wait, wait, wait. But when I say
Yeah, well, you know, computers

1312
01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:19,050
bullcrap. And he said, Yeah. He
said, sometimes I think the

1313
01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:23,880
Unabomber was right. Like, whoa,
whoa. I said Ted Kaczynski says,

1314
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,240
oh, man, I love that guy. He
said, did you know about him?

1315
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:30,480
Next is do you know he reached
out to him teaching at Harvard?

1316
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:34,050
I'm like, Yeah, tell you gotta
read player piano with Ted

1317
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,960
Kaczynski. Oh my gosh, I got a
friend for life.

1318
01:16:38,580 --> 01:16:44,760
Well, I have a piece of advice.
Okay, keep your interstate

1319
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,420
battery warranty keep them keep
the paperwork on it, or at least

1320
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,910
go back to the original guys
because the Interstate Batteries

1321
01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:53,640
as good as they are. When they
crap out. They always crap out a

1322
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,360
little bit before they're
supposed to like six months, and

1323
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,950
they will give you the prorated
price on the next battery six

1324
01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:06,150
year warranty on this battery
die in five years. Okay, we'll

1325
01:17:06,150 --> 01:17:09,060
get we'll get one six of your
money back.

1326
01:17:09,090 --> 01:17:11,490
You're telling me this truck is
going to last another five

1327
01:17:11,490 --> 01:17:12,750
years? Well, I guess

1328
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:17,070
your case is not appropriate.
But I've got I've always had my

1329
01:17:17,070 --> 01:17:19,860
Interstate Batteries. They
always crap. They're good

1330
01:17:19,860 --> 01:17:22,320
batteries. When they crap out.
They just crap out real quick.

1331
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,410
And then you end up and you'll
and it's always before the six

1332
01:17:25,410 --> 01:17:28,410
years. It's never going to be
six years bullcrap. It's no way.

1333
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,220
Well, I appreciate the advice. I
thank you for your courage. And

1334
01:17:32,220 --> 01:17:34,260
in the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.

1335
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,060
Well, that's a change of pace.
In the morning to you, Mr. Adam

1336
01:17:39,060 --> 01:17:41,340
curry, also all the ships at
sea, all the boots on the

1337
01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:44,190
ground, the feet in the air, the
Grox in the water, and all the

1338
01:17:44,190 --> 01:17:52,680
days and nights out there. And I
also want to say hi to Hi. Hi.

1339
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:57,270
Yeah. Hi, who are new listeners?

1340
01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:01,020
Oh, that's very nice. I want to
say in the morning to all of our

1341
01:18:01,470 --> 01:18:04,410
human resources in the chat room
there no agenda stream.com no

1342
01:18:04,410 --> 01:18:08,130
agenda chat. dotnet. I also want
to say hi, to our artists. We

1343
01:18:08,130 --> 01:18:12,240
had a it was a nice piece of art
that we use for 583. Rob lie

1344
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,870
tell came back. Did you know
this is funny. He sent me a

1345
01:18:15,870 --> 01:18:20,640
note. Maybe two hours after the
show. He says oh my god. Here's

1346
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,220
a new version of the art. Thank
you for putting it in there

1347
01:18:23,220 --> 01:18:27,300
because I misspelt the vortex
name. And neither you or I

1348
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:27,840
caught it.

1349
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,480
I thought that was the way I
spelled it

1350
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:32,880
DOVR A K.

1351
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:36,450
That's how much we're paying
attention. Yeah.

1352
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:39,990
So I swapped it out. But that
was nice, Rob. Thank you. I know

1353
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:42,210
agenda art. generator.com is
where you can submit your

1354
01:18:42,210 --> 01:18:45,630
artwork. And we can find lots of
fun stuff to look at for sure.

1355
01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:49,710
So give that a shot. And well,
you probably noticed there's no

1356
01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:52,020
commercials in this programme.
If you knew the reason why is if

1357
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:54,000
we had commercials, they
wouldn't be this show. There's

1358
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,210
no way we could talk about this,
we would be either off the air

1359
01:18:57,210 --> 01:19:00,480
or hate groups would have been
pulling on, you know, telling

1360
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:03,090
our advertisers to never
advertise on our show again.

1361
01:19:03,630 --> 01:19:05,010
That's true. So we live.

1362
01:19:05,820 --> 01:19:10,170
That's actually what you said,
right? There is a fact. Yeah, we

1363
01:19:10,170 --> 01:19:13,620
could not do this show any other
way than the way we're doing it,

1364
01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:17,220
which is we're requiring our
listeners. If they get anything

1365
01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:19,230
out of the show, of course, and
they hate the show. They

1366
01:19:19,230 --> 01:19:21,870
wouldn't be listening in the
first place go away. Exactly. It

1367
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:23,700
would go away and then we
wouldn't have a show and that

1368
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:25,800
would be the end of it. And
that's the way it goes. Or when

1369
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,320
the government shuts us down,
which is probably a few years

1370
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,260
I'm going to be riding on your
on your licence.

1371
01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:34,860
I don't know about that. Yeah,
you will. That's right. I will

1372
01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:37,260
get a licence. I can get a
licence. I'm well

1373
01:19:37,290 --> 01:19:39,870
qualified. I'm in the Perez
Hilton camp.

1374
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,130
If you don't you get it. You're
doing the show. Like I should.

1375
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,070
No, no, no, no, no, I think I
can just he'll be here Bill

1376
01:19:47,070 --> 01:19:52,260
Maher. What you're gonna give a
former MTV VJ a journalism

1377
01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:57,930
licence. Ha ha ha put him in the
Perez Hilton camp where you can

1378
01:19:57,930 --> 01:20:02,370
only report on true you can only
report and celebrate he's now

1379
01:20:02,370 --> 01:20:02,700
that's all

1380
01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:05,790
he's good for. That's right. All
right. Well, we have a few of

1381
01:20:05,790 --> 01:20:08,100
the executive producers
Associate Executive producers

1382
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:13,980
for show 584 to thank 1234
Executive Producers and two

1383
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:18,180
associates, starting with
Archduke David Foley, who came

1384
01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:22,380
in again. Nein, nein, nein,
nein, nein, Wow.

1385
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:25,080
Nice.

1386
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,460
He apparently is doing well in
some way. One of his many

1387
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:32,400
businesses. He's one of those
serial entrepreneurs that people

1388
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,900
always talk about, but nobody
ever

1389
01:20:33,930 --> 01:20:38,340
no one actually knows. We know.
This is him.

1390
01:20:39,090 --> 01:20:43,950
He wants another apparently he's
become superstitious, which is a

1391
01:20:43,950 --> 01:20:48,360
good thing about the karma
because it works for him. And so

1392
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,790
he needs another dose because he
needs it for a big day on

1393
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:51,510
Tuesday.

1394
01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:55,200
Oh, all right. So this is David
Foley, Archduke of Silicon

1395
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,860
Valley. He runs the protectorate
of Silicon Valley, which is

1396
01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:02,820
quite a stretch. Yeah, he is if
you want anything done there,

1397
01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:05,550
you got to talk to him. And
we're very happy to give you

1398
01:21:05,550 --> 01:21:08,940
some massive wonderful no agenda
karma for your Tuesday you've

1399
01:21:08,940 --> 01:21:14,940
got karma and thank you for your
patronage, your super support

1400
01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:18,270
and he does this get him to a
grand dukedom.

1401
01:21:18,930 --> 01:21:22,620
I will I'm gonna have to do the
math or have run the numbers

1402
01:21:22,620 --> 01:21:24,210
because he's getting close to

1403
01:21:24,330 --> 01:21:26,970
having his own jingle is what
I'm thinking. Yes, I

1404
01:21:26,970 --> 01:21:30,030
think he's got he's not too far
away if he's not there already,

1405
01:21:30,030 --> 01:21:33,090
but I believe he's got a couple
you know, he's got a little ways

1406
01:21:33,090 --> 01:21:37,080
to go not not far. Right, I
think take over the whole state

1407
01:21:37,290 --> 01:21:42,660
Peter Gill at 625 Kenmore,
Queensland, Australia. Say Hi,

1408
01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:48,000
John and Adam. Our last donation
was 19th January 2012. For 375.

1409
01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:51,000
I posted it for my son's
Charlie's birthday and asked for

1410
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,880
some karma for his medical
problems, which I'm happy to say

1411
01:21:53,970 --> 01:21:57,120
seem to have all sorted
themselves out for me. I'm now

1412
01:21:57,150 --> 01:22:00,420
donating 675 to bring it up
tonight. I'd like to request a

1413
01:22:00,420 --> 01:22:03,930
knighthood for Charlie Gill and
a call out for his birthday

1414
01:22:03,930 --> 01:22:07,500
again on the 21st. A note from
Charlie below Dear John and

1415
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:10,650
Adam, I am donating a
combination of my Festivus and

1416
01:22:10,650 --> 01:22:14,550
17th birthday presents to the
best podcast in the universe to

1417
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:17,970
complete my knighthood I've been
listening to no agendas since

1418
01:22:17,970 --> 01:22:21,300
about episode 300 and decided to
give some value for value. All I

1419
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:24,180
ask is for some general purpose
karma birthday call out for

1420
01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:29,520
Tuesday, and to be knighted as
Sir Gil. Ah, keep up the good

1421
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:29,700
work.

1422
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:33,840
This is the kind of future I
hope for for Australia. I hope

1423
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,600
for all countries and Gitmo
nation. These are the these are

1424
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:41,640
the young people we need. Of
course, we remember that you

1425
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,210
also have a a night ring at
Charlie. So go to no agenda

1426
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:48,750
nation.com/rings And make sure
you fill out your info. So

1427
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:52,110
Eric, wait about a year thank
you get to the Australian Postal

1428
01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:53,370
Service. There's that

1429
01:22:53,370 --> 01:22:56,160
problem, but we will get it out
to you right away. And here's

1430
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,340
that karma you need. Absolutely.
Thank you so much. You've got

1431
01:22:59,490 --> 01:23:01,230
karma general purpose carnamah.

1432
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:04,530
It's a here's a check that came
in with no note. It was one of

1433
01:23:04,530 --> 01:23:08,010
the bank checks. And it was from
Joseph Jones for $583, which

1434
01:23:08,010 --> 01:23:11,310
makes him remember the 583 Club
which was the last show. He's

1435
01:23:11,310 --> 01:23:15,240
from Apex of all places, North
Carolina, which is the top of

1436
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,870
Norwich because the apex. So I'm
thinking that he either gets a

1437
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:23,340
584 but I'm but if somebody's
going to donate 583 It must be

1438
01:23:23,340 --> 01:23:27,000
significant. So we're will put
him as the sole member I believe

1439
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,290
of the 583 Club. As far as I can
tell. I don't think we had a 583

1440
01:23:31,290 --> 01:23:31,980
club member.

1441
01:23:32,129 --> 01:23:37,979
I'm just just well I have a note
here. So you got to note I got I

1442
01:23:38,129 --> 01:23:41,429
hadn't see I'm glad I check this
guy's my excuse for not donating

1443
01:23:41,429 --> 01:23:44,339
sooner could not be more lame.
Basically, I couldn't think of

1444
01:23:44,339 --> 01:23:48,359
anything interesting to say in
the note. I'd like to recommend

1445
01:23:48,419 --> 01:23:51,239
and I did for this this did come
in to you by the way and I did

1446
01:23:51,239 --> 01:23:54,359
for this to the shell. So I'm
surprised the back office didn't

1447
01:23:54,359 --> 01:23:58,409
get this. I'd like to recommend
to all the listeners holding off

1448
01:23:58,409 --> 01:24:01,379
on a donation just go ahead and
donate before it piles up so

1449
01:24:01,379 --> 01:24:05,579
high that you have to be a
member of the 700 Club, which is

1450
01:24:05,579 --> 01:24:08,819
very funny. Since I have nothing
to plug I will note that I

1451
01:24:08,819 --> 01:24:12,209
attempted my own lame version of
the no agenda show long before I

1452
01:24:12,209 --> 01:24:15,839
knew no agenda existed. I did
one episode. If you have around

1453
01:24:15,839 --> 01:24:20,519
20 minutes to waste you can find
it at drunken webmaster.com I'd

1454
01:24:20,519 --> 01:24:23,249
like a karma to go towards my
stock trading endeavours for

1455
01:24:23,249 --> 01:24:26,579
2014. Thank you, Joe.
Absolutely. Here's to your

1456
01:24:26,579 --> 01:24:29,249
stocks. Got karma. Right.

1457
01:24:29,490 --> 01:24:31,830
I did get that but I lost track
of it.

1458
01:24:32,190 --> 01:24:36,120
And I did go to drunken
webmaster.com and it's great. It

1459
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,450
shows you that we make it look
easy.

1460
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:41,640
Does he struggle?

1461
01:24:42,990 --> 01:24:44,040
Well, first of all, he's drunk.

1462
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,680
Oh, well, I like that idea.

1463
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:51,750
Have you ever seen Doug with
high getting dug with high? No.

1464
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:55,080
It's a podcast where it's
comedian who apparently is kind

1465
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,370
of in that meaning. My name
isn't Doug. Brenton something

1466
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,950
he's in Another comedian circuit
and what he does is he has

1467
01:25:01,950 --> 01:25:07,050
people on mainly comedians. They
smoke, a bong, and then the he

1468
01:25:07,050 --> 01:25:12,270
interviews. Like it's pretty
good actually. And the

1469
01:25:12,270 --> 01:25:15,090
idea for a show legally drunk
I've always wanted to do

1470
01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:18,510
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of
interesting to watch.

1471
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,710
I would go on that show I would
do that. I would just vote the

1472
01:25:22,710 --> 01:25:25,140
bond which is smoke if you don't
smoke. I would do it

1473
01:25:25,140 --> 01:25:27,240
for the show is not going to
kill me. I'm not going to fall

1474
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:32,760
off the waggon and be hooked on
weed. Oh, man, fell off the

1475
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:38,220
waggon I'm on the weed again,
John. Dumb podcast. Oh, heroin

1476
01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:38,790
next.

1477
01:25:39,210 --> 01:25:43,320
Right. What am I thinking? All
right. Todd McGreevy, in

1478
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,680
Davenport, Iowa 350 bucks.
You're John and Adam, please

1479
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,140
accept this donation knowing
that I was independent business

1480
01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:53,460
broker support the best podcast
in the universe. www. Marigold

1481
01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:57,360
resources.com. Thanks for
plugging our Brook business

1482
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,240
brokerage. This is Todd
McGreevy, my wife, Kathleen, and

1483
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,360
I continue to be impressed by
the research and analysis you

1484
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,810
provide. It's all right before
everyone's eyes, but you guys

1485
01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:10,260
take the time to look, see and
connect the dots. You're telling

1486
01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:14,280
me Todd and his wife, Kathleen.
And by the way, you should be

1487
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:19,620
sending a picture that they are
trading based on our analysis.

1488
01:26:19,710 --> 01:26:23,550
Is that Is that what well?
Brokerage their trading firm.

1489
01:26:24,150 --> 01:26:26,010
Okay, is that what I'm
understanding?

1490
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:30,540
I don't know. I don't know that.
It's a marigold resort, wishful

1491
01:26:30,540 --> 01:26:31,050
thinking.

1492
01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:36,480
But seems like we could we could
certainly I think that are met

1493
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:39,270
we help clients in their search
to sell or acquire companies

1494
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:45,150
divisions or product lines. Oh,
well, hello. Please sell me VO.

1495
01:26:46,380 --> 01:26:52,560
Me. Project motion.com to $22.22
from Childress, Texas. No

1496
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:57,600
comment. Sir Michael Levin $200
from Brooklyn New York ITM John

1497
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,920
and Adam, sir Levin 11. Here.
Get it? Need another shot of

1498
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,190
Happy Selling karma from my
lovely wife, thank you for your

1499
01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:07,890
courage, and stay safe.

1500
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:12,150
absolutely happy to hand out
some karma to you. You've got

1501
01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:14,370
karma. What is this projective.

1502
01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:20,100
And those besides projesi looks
up projective motion.com. Those

1503
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:23,850
are our donors, executive
producer donors for show 5841

1504
01:27:23,850 --> 01:27:27,120
remind people to go to
divorce.org/and A child of

1505
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,810
arc.com/na also the no agenda
show and no agenda nation have

1506
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,750
buttons. And I suppose people
who post the show, which we

1507
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:37,020
encourage you to do on your own
blog. You should also have a

1508
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:39,000
link to divorce.org/and, a

1509
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:43,620
projective motion.com 23 year
old programmer from Reynosa

1510
01:27:43,620 --> 01:27:49,350
Mexico. He specialises in
website systems. Very nice. A

1511
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:53,970
couple of PR mentions of course
we have the to the 2030 club.com

1512
01:27:54,540 --> 01:27:58,530
and I have received tonnes of
emails from people I've been

1513
01:27:58,530 --> 01:28:01,080
updating the website. I haven't
yet done the black background

1514
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,810
with the red letters, John
because I can't quite figure out

1515
01:28:03,810 --> 01:28:10,620
the CSS I will figure it out.
But we had centre centre back

1516
01:28:10,620 --> 01:28:11,220
centre

1517
01:28:11,250 --> 01:28:14,460
just centre Yeah, it works.
Yeah.

1518
01:28:16,350 --> 01:28:20,580
Tom, Adam, your idea is
brilliant. There are tangible

1519
01:28:20,580 --> 01:28:23,730
threats that do culminate in the
year 2030 which require we

1520
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:27,330
require remediation and
preparation. I have registered

1521
01:28:27,330 --> 01:28:31,320
mk 20 thirty.com. And after the
details are worked out, I will

1522
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:35,100
point it to the appropriate
location. So he so he's smart.

1523
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:38,670
He understands his company
Millennium Knight was formed on

1524
01:28:38,670 --> 01:28:44,100
his y2k remediation success.
Where he soaked I mean helped

1525
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:47,190
the Los Angeles Times
Transamerica life companies and

1526
01:28:47,190 --> 01:28:50,580
a few.com companies modify their
systems to fix the date

1527
01:28:50,580 --> 01:28:56,100
calculation errors. So he and he
requests that we put a link to

1528
01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:00,630
the 2030 club because he wants
to do is $7.33 a month so he can

1529
01:29:01,350 --> 01:29:08,100
have donated 2030 in dollars by
the year 2030. So he was looking

1530
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:13,170
for a link couldn't find it.
Then we have Ryan who registered

1531
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,300
2030 seeds.com

1532
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:17,670
Ah Gewinner

1533
01:29:17,730 --> 01:29:24,330
genius. So I'm sure he'll be
selling seeds. And then Darren,

1534
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:26,790
Adam and listing for about a
year now love the show just

1535
01:29:26,790 --> 01:29:29,040
happened to be buying a domain
while listen to your last show.

1536
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,280
And when you said something
about the 2030 Club. I looked

1537
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,300
around I said I got to K
30 club.com. So I've registered

1538
01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:39,510
that and afforded to the
2030 club.com So he's just

1539
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:43,080
sporting a domain and no no
business per se. We got tonnes

1540
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:47,730
of great stories about about
2030 They are everywhere. And

1541
01:29:47,730 --> 01:29:51,330
this is a bonanza you can get in
on the ground floor of this 16

1542
01:29:51,330 --> 01:29:55,950
years to go amazon.com global
trends alternative worlds from

1543
01:29:55,950 --> 01:29:58,830
the Kindle store how Wall Street
can solve the climate crisis by

1544
01:29:58,830 --> 01:30:03,390
2030 from Mother Jones owns,
food and farming industries will

1545
01:30:03,390 --> 01:30:07,470
be need to be more competitive
by 2030 from the UK Government,

1546
01:30:08,580 --> 01:30:11,310
the bride of Christ Ministry of
life and of the world part

1547
01:30:11,310 --> 01:30:15,930
220 30 Here you go 2030
urbanisation major cities

1548
01:30:15,930 --> 01:30:19,590
population development. There's
all kinds of stories.

1549
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,470
Wow, get this, you stumbled onto
something, my friend, you

1550
01:30:22,470 --> 01:30:24,150
stumbled onto something. It was

1551
01:30:24,150 --> 01:30:27,000
just pure luck. No skill
involved.

1552
01:30:27,090 --> 01:30:28,200
No psychic.

1553
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,040
That's what it must be. Anyway,
thank you all very much for

1554
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,870
supporting the programme. We'll
have another one on Thursday.

1555
01:30:33,870 --> 01:30:36,120
And of course, in a little bit,
we'll also be doing our donors

1556
01:30:36,150 --> 01:30:39,870
$50 or more, to thank them for
their courage for supporting the

1557
01:30:39,870 --> 01:30:45,150
best podcast in the universe.
devora.org/n. And it goes

1558
01:30:45,150 --> 01:30:47,310
without saying we always
appreciate you going out there

1559
01:30:47,310 --> 01:30:53,310
and propagating our formula. Our
formula is this. We go out. We

1560
01:30:53,310 --> 01:30:54,210
had people in the mouth

1561
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:11,730
all right. The amphetamines are
wearing off so I'll let you talk

1562
01:31:11,730 --> 01:31:12,120
for a bit.

1563
01:31:12,450 --> 01:31:15,120
Well, let me get before we talk
about amphetamines wearing off

1564
01:31:15,150 --> 01:31:18,570
that you mentioned it. Did you
know about the drugs in Syria?

1565
01:31:20,430 --> 01:31:24,120
Yeah, news. I know that there's,
there's trafficking I'm not

1566
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:24,540
quite sure.

1567
01:31:24,810 --> 01:31:26,760
It's actually worse than that.
And here's a clip and to keep

1568
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,670
people up to date on this and he
there's a new thing in there

1569
01:31:29,670 --> 01:31:30,930
that you'll find interesting.

1570
01:31:31,470 --> 01:31:34,470
Fighters on both sides of the
Syrian civil war. turning to

1571
01:31:34,470 --> 01:31:37,710
drugs as both a source of
funding and staying power in

1572
01:31:37,710 --> 01:31:40,170
battle. A recent media
investigations revealed the

1573
01:31:40,170 --> 01:31:43,590
soaring export or export of
illegal amphetamines has turned

1574
01:31:43,620 --> 01:31:47,280
Syria into a major drug hub at
his methanogen are explained,

1575
01:31:48,210 --> 01:31:51,750
was theory about to enter in its
fourth devastating year of war,

1576
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,620
the lack of law and structure
has allowed one dark industry to

1577
01:31:55,620 --> 01:31:58,650
flourish, the country has become
the number one producer of a

1578
01:31:58,650 --> 01:32:03,840
drug known as Captagon. Its
essence synthetic stimulant was

1579
01:32:03,870 --> 01:32:07,770
first manufactured in the 1960s.
And it was at that time used as

1580
01:32:07,770 --> 01:32:11,400
a medicine to treat
hyperactivity and depression but

1581
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,460
it's too addictive and this is
why it was banned in most

1582
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:17,850
countries. So here in the Middle
East, it's still very popular,

1583
01:32:17,850 --> 01:32:23,070
it's cheap, and it's easy to
get. But today Syria not only

1584
01:32:23,070 --> 01:32:27,060
produces more than any other
country in the region, but it's

1585
01:32:27,060 --> 01:32:31,200
also captains main consumers
believe that fighters are taken

1586
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,920
this appeals to maintain
vigorous energy levels during

1587
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:40,620
lengthy battles because it helps
you keep awake and for hours and

1588
01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:45,270
hours but there are also reports
that ordinary citizens those who

1589
01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:49,560
have been living in depression
and in this war and chaos for

1590
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:55,290
almost three years now are also
turning to the drug for these

1591
01:32:55,290 --> 01:32:56,580
key post euphoria

1592
01:32:56,730 --> 01:33:00,330
Can you get me some it's fun
ethylene and stuff you see it

1593
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,740
always I was never heard of this
Captagon but did some research

1594
01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:07,680
phenethylamine is that I think
is that Fen fan that you see it

1595
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,920
you know, they used to advertise
it on spammers just to get you

1596
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:11,880
can get it from them

1597
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:13,530
fin fan member

1598
01:33:13,530 --> 01:33:15,360
that fin fin something like
very,

1599
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,540
very vaguely I remember
something that was

1600
01:33:18,570 --> 01:33:20,700
like a number of years I think
that's what this is is

1601
01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:24,840
phenethylamine which is which is
a chemical that when you take it

1602
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:29,220
it breaks down into into
amphetamine and something else

1603
01:33:29,220 --> 01:33:32,400
and again, you get gives you a
buzz. I don't see any evidence

1604
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,060
that is more addictive or
horrible, more horrible than

1605
01:33:36,060 --> 01:33:39,030
just straight Dex or what's the
stuff and was taking

1606
01:33:39,180 --> 01:33:42,900
Adderall, Adderall, which is
better on that stuff? Yeah.

1607
01:33:43,170 --> 01:33:47,100
Adderall, which I was stunned to
find out was just a dexedrine.

1608
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,890
It's amphetamines, pure
amphetamine. Yeah.

1609
01:33:50,340 --> 01:33:53,220
You don't want to take in feta
means they're not in feta means

1610
01:33:53,220 --> 01:33:53,550
or

1611
01:33:54,030 --> 01:33:56,640
what did you think it was? That
was a magical drug that fix

1612
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:57,390
people's minds?

1613
01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:02,070
No, I wish. I wish I was naively
thinking it was something other

1614
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:06,060
than why would they change the
good old name of Dex amphetamine

1615
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:09,210
to Adderall? Oh, no,

1616
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:16,530
no, there's a reason for that.
It's, um, it comes from a DD are

1617
01:34:16,530 --> 01:34:18,150
all I read

1618
01:34:18,150 --> 01:34:22,200
this the attention deficit
disorder is in the name? Yes.

1619
01:34:22,230 --> 01:34:23,820
Yes. Yeah.

1620
01:34:23,849 --> 01:34:27,599
Yeah. Name? Adderall. I'm
telling you. I read this the

1621
01:34:27,599 --> 01:34:36,119
other day. That the guy who came
up with it named a genius as a

1622
01:34:36,119 --> 01:34:39,209
marketing genius. He took
something that was invented in

1623
01:34:39,209 --> 01:34:45,119
the 60s. See, there must be
something about the name here.

1624
01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:48,149
Yeah, it was but it was
something like add for all or

1625
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:51,689
something. You didn't know that
was funny. No, I

1626
01:34:51,690 --> 01:34:54,000
didn't know this. This is like
embarrassing. I should have

1627
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:54,720
known this.

1628
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,320
Yeah, all right. And we keep
going. This is interesting.

1629
01:34:58,980 --> 01:35:02,370
So anyway, this stuff Fears
apparently. And they showed its

1630
01:35:02,370 --> 01:35:05,370
comes in a pill form a six big C
like a Benny used to be in the

1631
01:35:05,370 --> 01:35:08,670
60s Benny never been.

1632
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:11,489
Well I don't I never had them
but I remember Benny

1633
01:35:11,490 --> 01:35:13,590
there used to be the deuce have
Benny's and then the best

1634
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:17,220
Benny's recalled cross tops. And
they were appealed and had an

1635
01:35:17,250 --> 01:35:19,920
egg kind of across top. You get
busted into quarters if you

1636
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,130
wanted to. And they were all
over the place. It was like this

1637
01:35:23,130 --> 01:35:26,460
with truck drivers used in the
60s and 70s. So they stay on as

1638
01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:29,970
long hauls. Yeah. And so they
get a few Benny so you get if

1639
01:35:29,970 --> 01:35:33,360
you would to buy Benny's, you
would go to a I knew a guy was

1640
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,550
selling him. So I can tell you I
knew a lot of details.

1641
01:35:35,970 --> 01:35:39,900
Apparently most of them were
sold through truckstops and

1642
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:42,990
cafes at the truckstop and they
would it was a bag full of them.

1643
01:35:42,990 --> 01:35:46,170
You buy a bag of Benny's. And it
was a big bag. It was like you

1644
01:35:46,170 --> 01:35:48,180
know 100 of them. And it was

1645
01:35:49,019 --> 01:35:53,159
100 of them. That will be like
$10,000 in the in today's

1646
01:35:53,249 --> 01:35:55,589
today's time with Adderall if
you had 100 of them.

1647
01:35:55,980 --> 01:35:58,350
No, they were 100 of their worth
like a dime or 20 cents or

1648
01:35:58,350 --> 01:36:02,280
something. They were cheap. But
they had these Captagon they the

1649
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,710
report goes on they are selling
their science kit. What do you

1650
01:36:04,710 --> 01:36:05,850
what is an Adderall cost?

1651
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,000
Do you think I have no idea? I
mean, like 1020 No, it's

1652
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,010
insured. So you know who gives a
crap.

1653
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:15,870
These Captagon sell for 10 or
$20 a piece and apparently is

1654
01:36:15,870 --> 01:36:18,630
very easy to make. And they have
and they were showing how people

1655
01:36:18,630 --> 01:36:21,390
were smuggling them and they
were just they're just piles and

1656
01:36:21,390 --> 01:36:24,540
piles of these pills. I get the
sense that everybody in the

1657
01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:30,270
Syrian area is just completely
stoked on amphetamines shooting

1658
01:36:30,270 --> 01:36:34,170
at everything I mean, this
sounds like a safe place. I

1659
01:36:34,170 --> 01:36:37,350
wanted to jump in there there's
a there's a I have a somewhere

1660
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:39,000
on my collection of tapes,

1661
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,790
cassettes, cassettes or reel to
reels reel to reel or Betamax.

1662
01:36:44,820 --> 01:36:45,390
Or you reel

1663
01:36:45,390 --> 01:36:48,240
to reel pneumatics going way
back No, we're going to early

1664
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:52,020
stuff. Uh huh. I have I have
that I know. I've got it

1665
01:36:52,020 --> 01:36:55,380
somewhere I'm gonna I'm moving
on my reel to reels to I bought

1666
01:36:55,380 --> 01:36:58,980
a big reel to reel deck a big
dead 10 inch TIAC Oh, nice. I'm

1667
01:36:58,980 --> 01:37:01,740
gonna sell afterwards because
apparently they're valuable. And

1668
01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:04,620
they I'm going to move
everything to DVDs because the

1669
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:06,300
these tapes are just not getting
you know, they're getting

1670
01:37:06,300 --> 01:37:08,820
crosstalk and the rest of the
problems you have with tapes.

1671
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,390
Because you know that when they
sit next to it when they say

1672
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:15,660
they're not being rewound much
they start to magnetise the

1673
01:37:15,660 --> 01:37:21,390
sound from the next layer. I
have a bit where Bob and Ray and

1674
01:37:21,390 --> 01:37:24,570
I've never heard this reproduced
I've never heard I've looked and

1675
01:37:24,570 --> 01:37:27,990
looked for and I know and I have
a copy somewhere, Bob and Ray at

1676
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:31,950
the amphetamine factory. Who are
Bob and Ray, Bob and Ray are

1677
01:37:31,950 --> 01:37:36,180
these two deadpan comics that
were very popular in the 50s 60s

1678
01:37:36,180 --> 01:37:39,480
and 70s. And I think they went
back to the radio days probably

1679
01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:43,560
in the 30s and 40s I think the
40s. And then there was if you

1680
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,110
knew what Bob and Ray was, you
could just imagine and there's

1681
01:37:46,110 --> 01:37:49,260
probably about 10% of our
audience who does you can just

1682
01:37:49,260 --> 01:37:53,460
imagine them doing that bit in
the amphetamine factory. And to

1683
01:37:53,460 --> 01:37:56,280
me and feta means and all these
things meth and all the rest.

1684
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:56,580
Listen to

1685
01:37:56,580 --> 01:38:00,480
this for a second. Bob Elliot
and Ray Goulding American comedy

1686
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:03,690
team, whose career spanned five
decades their format was

1687
01:38:03,690 --> 01:38:06,990
typically to satirise the medium
in which they were performing.

1688
01:38:07,620 --> 01:38:12,960
Hello crackpot and buzzkill
Yeah, we're channelling Bob and

1689
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:13,890
Ray. Well, there's

1690
01:38:13,890 --> 01:38:16,650
a Bob and Ray element to the
show. That's for sure. Whatever

1691
01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:19,560
the case there, especially when
we do our sketches, which we

1692
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:20,700
don't do isn't enough of but

1693
01:38:20,910 --> 01:38:23,040
I have one for later. Oh,

1694
01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:28,109
I have so anyway, Bob. I just
imagine all these people hopped

1695
01:38:28,109 --> 01:38:31,439
up on amphetamines and with
guns. I mean, this

1696
01:38:31,919 --> 01:38:37,169
is the larious with Stinger
missiles not just guns. Wow.

1697
01:38:38,339 --> 01:38:41,909
That's good. I mean, it's not
good that that's happening in

1698
01:38:41,909 --> 01:38:45,149
Syria because I probably what's
going on? You know, now is these

1699
01:38:45,269 --> 01:38:48,449
the talk of the you know, the
rebels are fighting each other

1700
01:38:48,449 --> 01:38:51,239
now, which is kind of pretty
sure that was that was what was

1701
01:38:51,239 --> 01:38:54,329
going on to start with. Yeah,
now that they're just it's

1702
01:38:54,329 --> 01:38:57,989
probably over drugs. It's
probably an all in all an all

1703
01:38:57,989 --> 01:39:05,159
out drug war. Just to the south
of Turkey coincidentally. Wow.

1704
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,680
Ya know, the situation is bad.
Well, here we

1705
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:14,190
go. Here's Bob and Ray. The
Bachelor, are you familiar with

1706
01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:15,690
this programme, the bachelor?

1707
01:39:16,019 --> 01:39:18,509
I watched the first season of it
because I thought it was

1708
01:39:18,509 --> 01:39:21,119
somewhat entertaining. And then
I never watched it sense.

1709
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:27,750
So all the shows just started
out right. The January the mid

1710
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:30,990
season replacement. Everything's
going on everyone's a was

1711
01:39:30,990 --> 01:39:34,080
looking for ratings. And that's
why all that's why all your

1712
01:39:34,110 --> 01:39:36,900
celebrity award shows are on
now. It's all about the ratings.

1713
01:39:37,710 --> 01:39:42,240
So the bachelor, the current
bachelor, Juan Pablo galatas

1714
01:39:43,470 --> 01:39:47,370
came out with something very
controversial. He said gays

1715
01:39:47,370 --> 01:39:51,420
shouldn't be on this show. And
of course, this is now turning

1716
01:39:51,420 --> 01:39:54,390
into a controversy. Now,

1717
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:59,520
here's why amid this gaze is
he's referring to the females. I

1718
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,000
know many else now that there's
no males on the show except him.

1719
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,330
Well, I'm going to I'm going to
read you from the article it's

1720
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:11,970
in the in the in the show notes
here. Here we go. Oh Juan Pablo

1721
01:40:11,970 --> 01:40:14,340
Gollum is the 32 year old star
of the bachelor who will also

1722
01:40:14,340 --> 01:40:17,220
appear the most recent season of
The Bachelorette made the

1723
01:40:17,220 --> 01:40:21,240
remarks and interview with TVs
TV pages, Sean Daly, who posted

1724
01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:24,900
audio of the comments. The
writer asked whether ABC ABC

1725
01:40:24,900 --> 01:40:29,010
should have a gay or bisexual
Bachelor on the show. No, gala

1726
01:40:29,010 --> 01:40:32,400
has responded just because I
respect them. But honestly, I

1727
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,430
don't think it's a good example
for kids to watch that on TV.

1728
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:40,470
It's hard it's hard. It's a very
thin line. Now here's here's the

1729
01:40:40,500 --> 01:40:44,910
here's what I find interesting.
ABC is the the channel that runs

1730
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:51,960
the bachelor. ABC of course we
know owns a&e, who of course

1731
01:40:53,250 --> 01:40:58,080
have the Duck Dynasty programme.
So I think it kind of went like

1732
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:04,320
this shit we need some ratings.
What can we do? Well, let me let

1733
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,810
me call down to marketing for a
second hold on a second let me

1734
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:13,260
hello Marketing Marketing here.
Hey, marketing listen. We need

1735
01:41:13,260 --> 01:41:16,380
some ratings for this bachelor
show. This is crap crap crap

1736
01:41:16,380 --> 01:41:20,220
what you got? Gays? What do you
mean gays

1737
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:21,780
bring a gay in the military?

1738
01:41:23,010 --> 01:41:25,470
How does the gay work well, how
do we get ratings with gays? You

1739
01:41:25,470 --> 01:41:26,100
got a proof?

1740
01:41:26,370 --> 01:41:31,470
Yeah, make? I would say a fan
just offhand. Put a gay

1741
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:32,280
bachelor.

1742
01:41:35,370 --> 01:41:37,410
Hey, I'm gonna call the other
marketing department. This one

1743
01:41:37,410 --> 01:41:42,240
doesn't have the right script.
Hold on a second. smart

1744
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:46,620
marketing department here. Hey,
we got it really worked. That

1745
01:41:46,620 --> 01:41:48,990
Duck Dynasty gay thing really
worked. Why don't we have the

1746
01:41:48,990 --> 01:41:52,920
guy do an interview? Yeah, do an
interview and say something

1747
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,910
outrageous about gays. Okay,
yeah, I can idea right now. What

1748
01:41:56,910 --> 01:41:59,070
are you gonna do? Have them say
that?

1749
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,470
There's no room for gays on the
show.

1750
01:42:02,340 --> 01:42:07,020
Excellent idea. Excellent. We
can tie it in and we can grab

1751
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:10,290
some of that anti gay stuff from
NBC. Those guys have got all the

1752
01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:14,100
Russian gay shit with the with
the Olympics. Cry. We got to

1753
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:15,120
steal our gays.

1754
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:17,850
Yeah, no, we don't want anyone
watching NBC.

1755
01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:21,750
Hey, how old are you there in
the marketing department?

1756
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,760
I'm the 35 year old lady.

1757
01:42:27,300 --> 01:42:34,410
Exactly. So funny. Is Brian the
gay Crusader sent me this is Oh

1758
01:42:34,410 --> 01:42:37,260
my God, look with us. Hello.
Don't you see how easy this is

1759
01:42:37,260 --> 01:42:41,490
to deconstruct is that they were
successful with a nice Duck

1760
01:42:41,490 --> 01:42:43,560
Dynasty. No, they're trying to
do it for all their ABC

1761
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,330
properties. Hello. Don't you

1762
01:42:45,690 --> 01:42:48,870
have all this data yet? All the
networks are probably really

1763
01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:50,310
rife with gays.

1764
01:42:50,610 --> 01:42:53,760
And it's just so interesting
that the gay community I'm

1765
01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:01,050
sorry, the LGBT the LGBTQ Qi
community doesn't see how you're

1766
01:43:01,620 --> 01:43:03,210
used and manipulated. Yes,

1767
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:08,310
your sexuality is being
completely abused, abused. Which

1768
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:12,780
brings me to the happy news.
That today we will be releasing

1769
01:43:12,810 --> 01:43:19,920
the white paper that clearly
shows the the propaganda used by

1770
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:25,740
primarily American but certainly
Western media to scandalise, and

1771
01:43:25,740 --> 01:43:31,620
shout down Russia, for the so
called gay hate laws. I'll just

1772
01:43:31,620 --> 01:43:36,060
take it all the way. That proves
that the these laws are not only

1773
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:40,770
specifically hating gays, that
Russia actually is much more

1774
01:43:40,770 --> 01:43:46,980
LGBTQ Qi friendly than certainly
the United States. And Case in

1775
01:43:46,980 --> 01:43:52,020
point you everyone probably saw
that Putin to you know, to hype

1776
01:43:52,020 --> 01:43:58,350
up the Olympics did a very rare
interview, which was translated

1777
01:43:58,560 --> 01:43:59,820
in the following way.

1778
01:43:59,850 --> 01:44:03,720
The Sochi Games are a huge
moment of national pride and

1779
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,110
prestige involving huge
investment, new roads, new

1780
01:44:07,110 --> 01:44:11,610
railways, effectively an entire
new winter resort. But the rest

1781
01:44:11,610 --> 01:44:14,970
of the world has been looking on
and seeing controversy over

1782
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,450
corruption over the release of
political prisoners. And above

1783
01:44:18,450 --> 01:44:22,290
all, a bitter bitter row between
the West and Russia over gay

1784
01:44:22,290 --> 01:44:27,750
rights to Paralympian that
remains a philosophical divide

1785
01:44:27,870 --> 01:44:30,690
on a day when Mr. Putin said
gays were welcome at the

1786
01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:37,320
Olympics, but they should leave
the kids in peace. So it was all

1787
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:38,130
the money.

1788
01:44:38,430 --> 01:44:42,720
So this was essentially
interpreted by certainly the

1789
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,340
British press, but all over the
world as Oh, paedophilia, gays

1790
01:44:47,340 --> 01:44:49,740
are paedophiles automatically,
really. And that's what you're

1791
01:44:49,740 --> 01:44:50,100
saying.

1792
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:53,370
That's great.

1793
01:44:53,460 --> 01:44:58,290
I mean, seriously, it? Putin
cautions gay visitors to not

1794
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,430
abuse children. I mean, I don't
speak Russian, I'd love to get a

1795
01:45:02,430 --> 01:45:05,580
true translation of what he
said, because of course, the law

1796
01:45:05,970 --> 01:45:10,380
is really only about minors. The
word gay is not in the law

1797
01:45:10,410 --> 01:45:11,100
anywhere.

1798
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,710
No, it's about any alternative
lifestyle any,

1799
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:20,250
any whatsoever. And it is
specifically for minors. So what

1800
01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:23,970
he was saying is, hey, you do
whatever you want to do. But you

1801
01:45:23,970 --> 01:45:27,450
can't propagandise minors,
that's our law. And that's very

1802
01:45:27,450 --> 01:45:32,850
different from strict anti gay
laws. They hate gays. I've

1803
01:45:32,850 --> 01:45:36,360
actually I've been fighting with
not fighting. But Brian, one of

1804
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:45,330
the the, the reported number of
LGBTQ IQ BBI crimes in Russia

1805
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:49,350
versus America, the difference
is astounding. I mean, seriously

1806
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:55,110
in like two years in America
1400 in Russia 20. Of course,

1807
01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:57,960
you know, there's like, what is
reporting issues? Exactly.

1808
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,620
That's that was my I said, Dude,
if I had this report, I'd I'd

1809
01:46:01,620 --> 01:46:05,700
call this invalid, because come
on, you know, it's like the Who

1810
01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:09,630
the hell knows what they're
reporting. But anyway, it's it's

1811
01:46:09,630 --> 01:46:12,960
really is it's a, it's a
beautiful piece of work. I do

1812
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,240
have a couple of the points from
it, which is just kind of nice.

1813
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:21,660
Just to I think I put that in
here today. Maybe we don't have

1814
01:46:21,660 --> 01:46:25,050
it offhand. But really, when you
see what is allowed in America

1815
01:46:25,050 --> 01:46:28,410
versus what is allowed in
Russia, when it comes to living

1816
01:46:28,410 --> 01:46:34,590
together, being in the military,
adopting children, it's much

1817
01:46:34,590 --> 01:46:37,530
more liberal in Russia. But it
doesn't matter because it's,

1818
01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:40,650
this is a machine that we can
fight forever. And we're not

1819
01:46:40,650 --> 01:46:44,520
going to win, but at least we've
done it and I'm very, very proud

1820
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:48,690
of Brian, who is going to be
ridiculed by his own community

1821
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:50,430
to no end for doing this. So I

1822
01:46:50,460 --> 01:46:54,420
asked, not if his if he closes
if he doesn't write, and I get

1823
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,500
ignored is what usually will
happen if it's done. Well. Yes.

1824
01:46:58,530 --> 01:47:03,240
But yes, it will. He'll be
ignored. But it's it doesn't

1825
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:07,410
matter. People will do the
mainstream people who just will

1826
01:47:07,410 --> 01:47:09,990
not take the effort even to read
his white paper.

1827
01:47:11,130 --> 01:47:14,910
are no effective is done right.
Somebody will get a hold of

1828
01:47:14,910 --> 01:47:18,660
white papers summarise it
incorrectly, yes. And make that

1829
01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:19,350
the meme

1830
01:47:19,410 --> 01:47:22,350
got an email from surgeon Baron
of Jamaica Plain and surrounding

1831
01:47:22,350 --> 01:47:27,150
plantations on the gay protest,
and I'd be interested to see the

1832
01:47:27,150 --> 01:47:29,910
white paper about the Russian
gay laws that the no agenda

1833
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:32,250
listeners producing because like
most people, I don't know. And

1834
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:36,390
Jim, is LGBTQ Qi something. I
don't know what is actually the

1835
01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:39,480
fact about the supposed anti gay
legislation in Russia. We have

1836
01:47:39,480 --> 01:47:42,180
no deconstruction or analysis
which isn't such things except

1837
01:47:42,180 --> 01:47:44,850
by no agenda and its supporters.
All the corporate media

1838
01:47:44,850 --> 01:47:47,400
investigate investigative
journalist seem to be busy going

1839
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,880
through Justin Bieber's trash.
Well, it's true. wishes you know

1840
01:47:50,910 --> 01:47:54,000
that. I'll be licenced for that
me and Perez Hilton. I do

1841
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,700
remember since I lived in Denver
at the time the wrongheaded and

1842
01:47:56,700 --> 01:47:59,550
counterproductive reaction by
gay groups and individuals in

1843
01:47:59,550 --> 01:48:03,180
response to the passage of an
unpleasant homophobic initiative

1844
01:48:03,180 --> 01:48:10,320
in Colorado in the early 90s.
This was amendment to see this

1845
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,320
was actually said generally
homophobic and mean spirited

1846
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,410
initiative, whipped up by the
folks at pat robertson's

1847
01:48:16,410 --> 01:48:19,860
Christian coalition. In the
category of never missing an

1848
01:48:19,860 --> 01:48:22,350
opportunity to miss an
opportunity. Major gay ski

1849
01:48:22,350 --> 01:48:25,860
clubs, particularly in
California, announced a blanket

1850
01:48:25,860 --> 01:48:32,310
boycott of Colorado as a venue.
As a result, most gay owned and

1851
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:35,790
operated guest houses and bed
and breakfasts in major resorts,

1852
01:48:35,790 --> 01:48:39,630
Vail, Beaver Creek, Aspen, etc.
Who got the lion's share of gay

1853
01:48:39,630 --> 01:48:42,990
Travel Bookings were put out of
business or had to relocate. You

1854
01:48:42,990 --> 01:48:47,100
see, this is very important what
what Jim is saying is, it's

1855
01:48:47,130 --> 01:48:49,260
counterintuitive. You think
you're protesting but you're

1856
01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:53,730
actually hurting everything. It
may be the idea what could have

1857
01:48:53,730 --> 01:48:56,610
been a teaching moment to do
something politically savvy and

1858
01:48:56,610 --> 01:49:00,120
divert business preferentially
to gay owned establishments and

1859
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,720
publicise the amendment as bad
business ended up only hurting

1860
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:06,300
gay people and gay friendly
business in Colorado. Final

1861
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:09,480
irony. Where do you think the
outrage and high minded

1862
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:13,500
California gay ski clubs
diverted their trips to Park

1863
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:18,810
City Utah? That is kind of
ironic. Exactly. Here come the

1864
01:49:18,810 --> 01:49:22,710
boots. It couldn't be it
couldn't be your right. That's a

1865
01:49:22,710 --> 01:49:23,970
very interesting point, John.

1866
01:49:24,450 --> 01:49:27,480
Yeah, it could be a setup. It
could have been the Park City

1867
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:30,450
Utah guys who were behind the
whole Oh, look at this horrible

1868
01:49:30,450 --> 01:49:33,540
thing. Boycott all of it. Yeah,
well, I mean, that's the way

1869
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:35,220
capitalism works.

1870
01:49:37,380 --> 01:49:43,500
In printed man, but anyway, so
the LGBTQI community members, my

1871
01:49:43,500 --> 01:49:47,880
brothers and sisters, you are
being duped? duped, you are

1872
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,560
being duped? The everyone's
being

1873
01:49:49,590 --> 01:49:53,310
duped and not just them. Well, I
know but talking about being

1874
01:49:53,310 --> 01:49:57,030
duped and apparently that
bullcrap or almost bombed Syria,

1875
01:49:57,420 --> 01:50:01,320
and we're just barely didn't
bomb them. Because of good carry

1876
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,410
and all the rest of it yeah,
here's the rockets in Syria and

1877
01:50:04,410 --> 01:50:07,890
gassing bull crap that just
recently come to light really.

1878
01:50:08,610 --> 01:50:11,010
I'm a correspondent in New York
City there will be time to us

1879
01:50:11,010 --> 01:50:13,770
conclusion that a chemical
attack near Damascus in August

1880
01:50:13,770 --> 01:50:16,320
was carried out by the
government has been challenged

1881
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,920
by a team of highly respected
experts. Washington immediately

1882
01:50:19,950 --> 01:50:23,160
then blamed president is sad,
but this new report from the

1883
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,770
Massachusetts Institute of
Technology found the rocket

1884
01:50:25,770 --> 01:50:28,260
couldn't have been fired from
government controlled areas.

1885
01:50:29,550 --> 01:50:33,390
We went through two to three
months worth of study to

1886
01:50:33,390 --> 01:50:38,220
determine the types of rockets.
There's the weight, the size,

1887
01:50:38,610 --> 01:50:42,750
the propellant, and we
determined that the range is on

1888
01:50:42,750 --> 01:50:47,430
the order of two kilometres. I
like to make a note that the UN

1889
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:52,020
also had come up with a range of
approximately two kilometres so

1890
01:50:52,020 --> 01:50:55,530
this is very confusing to us in
our studies, and we're trying to

1891
01:50:55,530 --> 01:50:59,670
understand exactly what the
White House map means. Because

1892
01:50:59,670 --> 01:51:03,270
right now, as it stands, these
rockets could have never been

1893
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:07,380
fired from government controlled
territory. They would be fired

1894
01:51:07,380 --> 01:51:12,240
more from a rebel type of
territory, or a border of a

1895
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:13,620
contested territory.

1896
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:19,260
Hey Bieber Bieber Bieber throw
some eggs somewhere man they're

1897
01:51:19,260 --> 01:51:20,640
on to the rocket ship come

1898
01:51:21,210 --> 01:51:22,740
Hey Bosh. Okay Bosh?

1899
01:51:22,770 --> 01:51:24,960
Throw some eggs at the house
next door. Hey, get one of your

1900
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:30,690
friends have some coke? Yeah.
Baba.

1901
01:51:31,980 --> 01:51:35,070
We are show said this when it
happened. Yeah,

1902
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:41,340
we deconstructed come right down
to the the mind the finest minut

1903
01:51:41,340 --> 01:51:44,220
detail of why it could not have
been the government.

1904
01:51:46,650 --> 01:51:49,860
And besides the point they most
of the target was a bunch of

1905
01:51:49,860 --> 01:51:54,000
soldiers, government soldiers
that were making inroads on the

1906
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,940
rebels. I mean, and that, of
course, that's when John Kerry

1907
01:51:57,090 --> 01:52:01,200
and the President came out with
their killing their own people.

1908
01:52:01,590 --> 01:52:03,690
And I always thought it was kind
of ludicrous that they were

1909
01:52:03,690 --> 01:52:07,410
shoot, they were killing their
own soldiers. And nobody seemed

1910
01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:14,490
to think twice about this now.
Well, that's okay. We even know

1911
01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:17,550
what's going on. We didn't I
didn't do this was going on. But

1912
01:52:17,550 --> 01:52:20,670
we didn't know it was going on
it we not we talked about it.

1913
01:52:22,140 --> 01:52:24,420
But played this clip Panama
Canal

1914
01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:28,710
in interesting. Okay, Panama
Canal. Welcome back.

1915
01:52:28,740 --> 01:52:31,470
The Panama Canal Expansion
Project may soon grind to a

1916
01:52:31,470 --> 01:52:34,350
halt. The canals administration
is in the midst of a financial

1917
01:52:34,350 --> 01:52:37,140
dispute with a Spanish
consortium working on that

1918
01:52:37,140 --> 01:52:39,600
project. And now it has
reportedly held talks with other

1919
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,380
contractors as it prepares to
suspend a project on Monday.

1920
01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:46,620
Negotiations are still underway
with the current workers for

1921
01:52:46,620 --> 01:52:51,480
now, the construction group went
$1.6 billion over budget before

1922
01:52:51,480 --> 01:52:54,270
threatening to stop unless
they're paid more.

1923
01:52:54,719 --> 01:52:57,749
Now, was this not the Chinese
financing and financing this? Is

1924
01:52:57,749 --> 01:52:59,309
it? Do I recall that for some
reason?

1925
01:52:59,849 --> 01:53:03,809
Well, I thought the Chinese were
doing it and apparently not not.

1926
01:53:03,839 --> 01:53:06,269
And yeah, yeah, this case, this
by the way, this report came

1927
01:53:06,269 --> 01:53:09,059
from CCTV, but they didn't
really discuss the where the

1928
01:53:09,059 --> 01:53:12,899
money's coming from. But the
Yeah, they're trying to widen

1929
01:53:12,899 --> 01:53:16,559
the thing. So they can cut time,
you know, because the shipping

1930
01:53:16,559 --> 01:53:19,379
companies I mean, we talked
about the rail companies trying

1931
01:53:19,379 --> 01:53:24,359
to move your goods and services
from China into Europe and

1932
01:53:24,359 --> 01:53:24,899
elsewhere.

1933
01:53:24,990 --> 01:53:27,900
This is for the bigger this I
think if I recall, this is for

1934
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:31,530
the the the LNG ships, we need
to have these huge

1935
01:53:31,590 --> 01:53:34,170
Well, there's a Yeah, we need
this and but choda, the Chinese

1936
01:53:34,170 --> 01:53:37,650
because there's still cars,
don't anybody you I mean, you or

1937
01:53:37,650 --> 01:53:40,200
me or anyone else think that the
shipping companies, the ones who

1938
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,440
move goods from China to the
United States over the ocean are

1939
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:45,960
going to roll over or they're
embedded with the rail

1940
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,870
companies. Of course not not
going to happen. So they said

1941
01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:51,600
the Chinese wanted to widen this
thing, and they showed them some

1942
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,870
aerial shots. Holy crap. Yeah.
It's like they're gonna make

1943
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:57,690
this thing the size of it's
going to be so wide, you can run

1944
01:53:57,690 --> 01:54:02,010
to, you know, three across kind
of thing going through. I don't

1945
01:54:02,010 --> 01:54:06,720
know. Anyway, so but some, I
guess, the Spanish decided

1946
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,030
they're not going to do any more
work. Well,

1947
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:16,410
hey, I have siesta. We're done.
We're done at AOC, the Panama

1948
01:54:16,410 --> 01:54:17,520
Canal Authority,

1949
01:54:17,550 --> 01:54:21,150
I think it would be the Chinese
somehow botching this because,

1950
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:23,790
you know, they're not the
greatest managers of anybody but

1951
01:54:23,790 --> 01:54:24,720
Chinese.

1952
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:32,970
Yeah, yes. Yes. I would agree.
That's interesting. Well, now

1953
01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:36,030
you've you know, I know people
in Panama in fact, we have a we

1954
01:54:36,030 --> 01:54:39,150
have a Panama person. And one of
our one of our Panamanian

1955
01:54:39,150 --> 01:54:41,760
listers, produces runs a hotel
in Panama,

1956
01:54:42,180 --> 01:54:45,090
that we need to start getting
some communications going here.

1957
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:45,720
Yeah. Well, he sent

1958
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:49,800
me an email recently and he
said, come on down.

1959
01:54:50,940 --> 01:54:54,240
I never got one. I never got an
invite. I would love to see

1960
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:54,780
Panama.

1961
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,830
And we have we have another
friend of the show who has a

1962
01:54:58,830 --> 01:54:59,490
house there.

1963
01:55:01,170 --> 01:55:03,150
We can do a meet up. Yeah.

1964
01:55:04,380 --> 01:55:08,400
We can have a meet up with our
one friend at the hotel

1965
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,640
restaurant, we're good to go. It
could also be called lunch. But

1966
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:12,570
what we'll name it

1967
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:17,250
should be a lunch, tax, write
all that tweet up three, tax

1968
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:23,280
write off, we call it a meet up
as much better. All righty.

1969
01:55:23,730 --> 01:55:26,040
Again, I've got a couple more
things here we've I do have this

1970
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:30,300
little longer exposome of that,
which I think would conclude

1971
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:34,230
with the, I think everyone said,
Well, we have to show that the

1972
01:55:34,230 --> 01:55:38,100
alternative media personalities
and Amy Goodman, in this case is

1973
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:38,220
an

1974
01:55:38,220 --> 01:55:42,810
idiot. Can I can I make a
recommendation? Yes, we have a

1975
01:55:42,810 --> 01:55:45,870
rather short list. Why don't we
thank our producers and then do

1976
01:55:45,870 --> 01:55:47,940
this right after that, because
it looks like you've got a

1977
01:55:47,940 --> 01:55:49,440
couple of things here. And

1978
01:55:49,890 --> 01:55:52,590
well, before we do that, before
we thank our producers, I do

1979
01:55:52,590 --> 01:55:56,430
have a little a little rant that
we can run. This is a guy like

1980
01:55:56,430 --> 01:55:59,970
an Occupy guy and I was watching
this with the buzzkill Jr. and I

1981
01:55:59,970 --> 01:56:04,080
was this is a guy on a megaphone
only he's got a microphone and

1982
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,350
the megaphone is being held by
someone else. Oh, this,

1983
01:56:07,380 --> 01:56:10,680
that's the ultimate. And someone
else is,

1984
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,550
is pointing the megaphone while
this guy talks into the mic into

1985
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:18,090
this little, you know, like a
radio control one of those

1986
01:56:18,270 --> 01:56:22,110
police microphones with a button
on top. Yeah. And JC says it has

1987
01:56:22,110 --> 01:56:25,290
something to do with the way
they the police would stop

1988
01:56:25,290 --> 01:56:28,440
somewhere. That is some
rationale for doing this this

1989
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,200
way, but the person holding the
megaphone.

1990
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,880
Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop. So if I understand

1991
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,870
what you're saying, someone else
is holding the megaphone. And

1992
01:56:39,870 --> 01:56:43,140
then there's a wire with a mic
and the person speaking speaking

1993
01:56:43,140 --> 01:56:46,470
to the mic, so he's technically
not holding the megaphone, which

1994
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:50,430
has implications on who could
get arrested for disturbing the

1995
01:56:50,430 --> 01:56:50,880
peace

1996
01:56:51,180 --> 01:56:54,630
apparent, something, it's a true
some sort of a gambit got it.

1997
01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:59,160
Whatever the case is, the person
holding the megaphone is texting

1998
01:56:59,820 --> 01:57:04,740
with their other hand and also
taking selfies during the

1999
01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:10,020
process. And I find the whole
thing to be semi disturbing, but

2000
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:15,210
I liked this guy's message. And
I think it kind of relates to

2001
01:57:15,210 --> 01:57:17,580
advertising. And this is the
Occupy rant clip,

2002
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:22,440
where the public airwaves for no
money. Companies do not pay one

2003
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:27,480
penny to the public broadcasting
spectrum. And they use that to

2004
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:32,040
rake in hundreds of billions of
dollars. Every year, the news

2005
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:36,690
won't report on stories that go
against the corporations that

2006
01:57:36,690 --> 01:57:42,120
own they will report on stories
that go against the advertisers

2007
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,860
that by airtime on their
network, that advertisers have

2008
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:50,790
to sign agreements with the
networks that mandate that the

2009
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:54,690
network's will not broadcast
anything that is offensive or

2010
01:57:54,690 --> 01:57:59,190
harmful towards those
corporations. This is how money

2011
01:57:59,310 --> 01:58:03,240
is censoring our information.
And you don't want one of the

2012
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:08,340
biggest advertisers on the
networks are the politicians. In

2013
01:58:08,340 --> 01:58:11,910
the last election cycle for the
President. There was over a

2014
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:15,660
billion dollars spent on
presidential campaign

2015
01:58:15,690 --> 01:58:20,250
advertisements. How can we trust
the media to report and to be

2016
01:58:20,250 --> 01:58:24,960
critical on these politicians
when they're entirely dependent

2017
01:58:25,290 --> 01:58:29,040
on the money from these ad
campaigns? And so we have a

2018
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:34,230
democracy that's all been
controlled by corporations. They

2019
01:58:34,230 --> 01:58:37,290
kick out every other political
party but the Republicans and

2020
01:58:37,290 --> 01:58:43,860
Democrats and this is what we're
left with. I hereby give you a

2021
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:46,980
clip

2022
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:56,010
I'm gonna show my son moved by
Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all

2023
01:58:56,010 --> 01:58:58,560
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2024
01:59:10,350 --> 01:59:13,080
I just got to kick. I gotta kick
out of that. Because of course,

2025
01:59:13,110 --> 01:59:16,980
we are not bound as it were by
this sort of,

2026
01:59:17,730 --> 01:59:23,010
no, it took us a long time to
get where we are today. Able to

2027
01:59:23,010 --> 01:59:23,850
survive.

2028
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,140
But we're not bound. No, we are
we are not. We are we're

2029
01:59:28,140 --> 01:59:31,170
unbound. But we're Unbound,
Thanks to our supporters,

2030
01:59:31,170 --> 01:59:34,620
including the people that we're
going to mention now and Hmong,

2031
01:59:34,620 --> 01:59:37,650
others that we don't mention
that are below a certain limit

2032
01:59:37,650 --> 01:59:42,060
or they want to be anonymous.
John Boyd doesn't $169.69 But he

2033
01:59:42,060 --> 01:59:43,890
has no message and we don't know
where he's from.

2034
01:59:43,950 --> 01:59:47,490
Now. Is it not time today that
we do have a script?

2035
01:59:48,630 --> 01:59:53,100
Script for what for? No, no, no,
no, no, no. No one movie guy.

2036
01:59:53,130 --> 01:59:54,480
Wait, one more. One more

2037
01:59:54,510 --> 01:59:58,680
Thursday. So Thursday, Thursday,
Thursday, we make it because we

2038
01:59:58,680 --> 01:59:59,820
got a lot of ladies

2039
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,400
Yeah, there's a bunch of people
backed up and they're all backed

2040
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:06,180
up. They're backed up. We got to
clean the stage mopping up Yeah.

2041
02:00:06,210 --> 02:00:12,330
Damn Dame Sam Minar $111 nurses
Box Hill, South Victoria,

2042
02:00:12,330 --> 02:00:15,600
Australia. The shows have been
truly outstanding recently.

2043
02:00:15,780 --> 02:00:21,120
There been so good. Love your
work. Here's $111.11 to make it

2044
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:24,090
rain for Michelle Dame Samantha
from the house of dubious

2045
02:00:24,090 --> 02:00:24,510
repeat.

2046
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,010
Do we have pictures of

2047
02:00:27,510 --> 02:00:29,850
that she mentioned that she's
from the house of dubious

2048
02:00:29,850 --> 02:00:30,360
repute.

2049
02:00:30,690 --> 02:00:34,650
I need to see what she looks
like I need to save some of your

2050
02:00:34,650 --> 02:00:35,310
paperwork.

2051
02:00:35,370 --> 02:00:38,550
Dave up we have a game of a
dubious couple of games of

2052
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:41,640
dubious repute. I should hope
so. That listened to the show. I

2053
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:45,210
should hope so. Sir Stephen
count Yeah, this is a population

2054
02:00:45,210 --> 02:00:48,060
thing. It's a numbers game.
Yeah. So Stephen count the money

2055
02:00:48,090 --> 02:00:52,350
whatever that in Santiago, North
Carolina $100.02. Cleaning up my

2056
02:00:52,350 --> 02:00:54,840
Pay Pal account. By the way.
This is a good thing for people

2057
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:57,450
to remember to do smart idea. A
lot of people got money in the

2058
02:00:57,450 --> 02:01:00,990
Pay Pal account is sitting
there. Not getting it nothing.

2059
02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:03,900
He's kind of cleaned out his
paypal account and send it to us

2060
02:01:03,930 --> 02:01:08,820
come to him on a. He says he got
a very voice message from the

2061
02:01:08,820 --> 02:01:11,850
scam and fraud department when I
first used my actual paypal

2062
02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:16,260
account. So he gave up on the
whole thing. Richard Olson in

2063
02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:21,540
Ellensburg. Washington sent us
$100 And he sent it in. And he

2064
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:26,370
recalls and actually and he sent
into Cuba cell card. Oh, yeah.

2065
02:01:26,370 --> 02:01:32,790
He is Kentucky Fried seven
Quisling new law is called

2066
02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:39,150
Letters. Oh, okay. All right.
Rick Golson. Enel Ellensburg,

2067
02:01:39,150 --> 02:01:44,040
Washington. And he's got some
sort of a nice picture on the on

2068
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:51,240
the card. He did send us a
handwritten note sad to admit

2069
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:55,530
it. I'm a longtime Boehner first
time donor, but you actually

2070
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:59,850
don't it looks like Cloner if
you write the d in the high

2071
02:01:59,850 --> 02:02:06,750
resolution for 2014 was to make
up for for that plea. We'll make

2072
02:02:06,750 --> 02:02:11,370
up for that. Please find
enclosed a check. One of 10 for

2073
02:02:11,370 --> 02:02:13,950
knighthood. He's going to go for
knighthood. I'm not going to

2074
02:02:13,950 --> 02:02:17,100
request anything except for
karma for you to thanks for your

2075
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:24,660
work 73 At the end anyway,
that's

2076
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:26,970
very nice. That's very nice.

2077
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:32,430
All right, that's Alex ball with
nein nein nein nein London Ohio

2078
02:02:32,850 --> 02:02:37,530
was a very long note which
really we've read. He came up

2079
02:02:37,530 --> 02:02:42,480
with a 33 theory which is didn't
mean anything. If we already

2080
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:46,620
have this 3330 which is it's got
something to do with the with

2081
02:02:46,620 --> 02:02:50,610
the Mason free but we but so
what it doesn't tell us

2082
02:02:50,610 --> 02:02:56,820
anything? No. Richard Harris for
75 bucks. Fairhope, Alaska, or

2083
02:02:56,820 --> 02:03:02,490
Alabama. That's Alabama, Alabama
zero pitch in peachy RELO

2084
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,520
zero Piccirillo Carrillo

2085
02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:11,250
in Hendersonville, North
Carolina 70 and 69

2086
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:13,920
shortlist again today.

2087
02:03:14,070 --> 02:03:17,820
Greg Kutner, Norwalk,
Connecticut 6969 Craig Porter in

2088
02:03:17,820 --> 02:03:23,850
Jacksonville, Florida, sir
Schwartz in Denmark. Edward

2089
02:03:23,850 --> 02:03:28,710
Hines and John Doe 269 69 is
both from Jacksonville, Florida.

2090
02:03:28,710 --> 02:03:32,520
Interesting thing. We don't want
close it because it's no it's

2091
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:37,860
too short. I can't close with
minimum of six. Russ 5033.

2092
02:03:37,860 --> 02:03:39,000
Wildwood Missouri.

2093
02:03:39,900 --> 02:03:42,180
That's from the no agenda in a
briefcase app.

2094
02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:47,790
Oh, that's half the sales today.
Nice. Oh, cool. No agenda

2095
02:03:47,790 --> 02:03:48,720
number. Where do you get that?

2096
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:51,510
I think it's the Android store.

2097
02:03:52,110 --> 02:03:56,010
Okay. And then $50 We have a
shortlist today. $50 from

2098
02:03:56,010 --> 02:03:59,250
Michael gates in Colorado
Springs, Andrew Halverson and

2099
02:03:59,250 --> 02:04:04,890
Gravenhurst, Ontario, Kyle Bower
in Wooster, Ohio, and Mark

2100
02:04:04,890 --> 02:04:08,430
Tanner in Whittier, California.
And finally, Christopher Brant

2101
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:13,110
in Brookings, South Dakota. And
that's concludes our list of

2102
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,080
over $50 donors for show

2103
02:04:16,530 --> 02:04:23,340
584. As a reminder, we have a
palindrome on Thursday. 585585

2104
02:04:23,340 --> 02:04:27,720
is a number of combinations of
doing that to support your best

2105
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,230
podcast in the universe. But
regardless, we really appreciate

2106
02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:34,410
everyone who supports the
programme under $50 as well of

2107
02:04:34,410 --> 02:04:38,790
course, and we do read all your
notes. And it's always nice to

2108
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:42,840
see the 1111 is the 1212 30
threes, the fives, the fours,

2109
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:45,870
the twos it's all in there and
without you we wouldn't be know

2110
02:04:45,870 --> 02:04:50,250
where we were what we'd be
somewhere we will not be doing

2111
02:04:50,250 --> 02:04:54,720
the show, that's for sure.
That's highly appreciated. So

2112
02:04:54,720 --> 02:05:00,330
please go to devora.org/n A Okay

2113
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:09,810
as discussed, Peter Gil
congratulates his son Charlie

2114
02:05:09,810 --> 02:05:14,940
who will be knighted in just a
few moments. He turned 17 on the

2115
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:21,480
21st and DJ power boy, John,
Jamie D. John Darius. He turns

2116
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:25,260
40 on January 23, and he has
been helping me out with a lot

2117
02:05:25,260 --> 02:05:27,630
of the pre stream so Happy
birthday to you from all your

2118
02:05:27,630 --> 02:05:32,490
buddies here at the best podcast
in the universe. All right, so

2119
02:05:32,490 --> 02:05:35,640
here's the father to son
knighting that that has been

2120
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:38,460
promised, but also Charlie is
putting in his own money, his

2121
02:05:38,460 --> 02:05:42,270
Festivus money and his birthday
money. So this is a truly,

2122
02:05:42,990 --> 02:05:49,020
really really nice to be able to
give this to him now. 17 do you

2123
02:05:49,020 --> 02:05:51,240
say I think Do you think he
looks like he's 18? Could he

2124
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:54,900
pass could could he if we didn't
card him? Would it be okay,

2125
02:05:55,380 --> 02:05:56,490
I would think so. Okay,

2126
02:05:56,490 --> 02:05:59,730
well I'm glad you got all right
Charlie Gill stepped forward my

2127
02:05:59,730 --> 02:06:03,330
friend you are about to become
sir Gill has we welcome you to

2128
02:06:03,330 --> 02:06:06,180
the illustrious club the names
of the knights on the no agenda

2129
02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:09,720
roundtable. So, gotta go please
kneel as I hereby pronounce the

2130
02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:13,110
third Gil night and the no
agenda table for you. Because

2131
02:06:13,110 --> 02:06:15,450
you're looking at teen Cuban
cigars and single malt scotch

2132
02:06:15,450 --> 02:06:18,030
cannabis and Cabernet hot
librarian's and Jager bombs

2133
02:06:18,030 --> 02:06:21,000
opium and warm orange juice
hookers and blow my friend.

2134
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,160
You'll like those three
gangsters and a bucket of fried

2135
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,500
chicken. Maybe red boys and
Chardonnay could go that way.

2136
02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:28,260
Hawk Hansen goes back and metal
buckets and bourbon or sparkling

2137
02:06:28,260 --> 02:06:31,380
cider and escorts maybe just a
mutton in Mead, a lot of it

2138
02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:33,660
contains things you can only
have when you're 18 or 21. In

2139
02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:38,160
some states, the no agenda show
is not responsible for anything

2140
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:41,820
that happens at the round table.
But you're in good hands.

2141
02:06:43,470 --> 02:06:45,570
But the round table and France
it's not a problem.

2142
02:06:46,710 --> 02:06:51,210
No or the Netherlands for that
fact. Yes. No, wait. And of

2143
02:06:51,210 --> 02:06:54,870
course another thanks to our
executive and Associate

2144
02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:57,780
Executive producers. Those are
real credits. You get those

2145
02:06:57,780 --> 02:07:02,310
credits on your show page, which
will be 584 dot no agenda

2146
02:07:02,310 --> 02:07:07,920
notes.com 584. No agenda, no saw
calm. And they're good wherever

2147
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:12,780
credits are accepted, which
includes IMDb, it includes your

2148
02:07:12,780 --> 02:07:16,620
business card, of course. But
also, LinkedIn seems to work

2149
02:07:16,620 --> 02:07:18,930
very well. And LinkedIn is a
good place. And here's the

2150
02:07:18,930 --> 02:07:21,210
general purpose karma for
everybody who requested it and

2151
02:07:21,210 --> 02:07:28,770
needs. It's got karma. All
righty. Amy,

2152
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:34,500
so I'm watching the democracy
now. And so, so do we decide to

2153
02:07:34,500 --> 02:07:36,960
have and I've used the word So
too many times, but it's better.

2154
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:37,740
And moreover,

2155
02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:40,440
you can borrow Moreover, just
use Moreover,

2156
02:07:40,620 --> 02:07:43,230
to try to use Moreover, now that
you mentioned I think I think

2157
02:07:43,230 --> 02:07:48,480
it's a new thing. And you know,
it Moreover, a mom just

2158
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:49,830
Moreover, so she

2159
02:07:49,830 --> 02:07:54,810
has a real hard on for the
nuclear business. Oh, yeah. And

2160
02:07:54,810 --> 02:07:58,170
she always has She's an old
liberal. And they all think like

2161
02:07:58,170 --> 02:08:03,420
it's 1955. And we're all gonna
die and all the rest of it. So I

2162
02:08:03,420 --> 02:08:08,670
couldn't help but pick up her.
You know, she she decides to do

2163
02:08:08,670 --> 02:08:12,150
the show for the next few days
from Tokyo, where she's wringing

2164
02:08:12,150 --> 02:08:14,640
her hands over the fact that
she's probably going to die from

2165
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:15,210
radiation.

2166
02:08:16,980 --> 02:08:21,090
Is she talking about the fish
and the starfish dying off

2167
02:08:21,090 --> 02:08:23,580
massive sea life annihilation?

2168
02:08:23,850 --> 02:08:27,060
Well, mostly, it's just anti
nuke propaganda. She didn't

2169
02:08:27,060 --> 02:08:29,070
break said she does bring a lot
of that up. I don't have time

2170
02:08:29,070 --> 02:08:32,490
for all those clips. But let's
start with it. I wanted to hear

2171
02:08:32,490 --> 02:08:35,190
the whole thing because she
brings on this this character,

2172
02:08:35,460 --> 02:08:38,730
who then everything she does, it
just this becomes a very

2173
02:08:38,730 --> 02:08:41,760
embarrassing segment. She kills
the show right after the end of

2174
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,670
this guy that she brings on who
has actually a pretty good

2175
02:08:44,700 --> 02:08:48,990
looking operation. But let's
start with a move that a move

2176
02:08:49,020 --> 02:08:51,840
that she announced that she's on
the road Report.

2177
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,900
I'm Amy Goodman. We are on the
road in

2178
02:08:56,610 --> 02:09:01,560
on the road again. Where she
says it on the road as we're on

2179
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:06,450
the road, he could get a gig at
a top 40 station any day. Hey,

2180
02:09:06,450 --> 02:09:08,580
everybody, Jamie Goodman in the
morning when you were on the

2181
02:09:08,580 --> 02:09:14,430
road Report. I'm Amy Goodman. We
are on the road to Tokyo, Japan.

2182
02:09:14,850 --> 02:09:18,510
Broadcasting for the third of
our three days of special

2183
02:09:19,020 --> 02:09:22,080
broadcasting live from the top
of the Empire State Building to

2184
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,290
all states in the tri state area
and beyond. We're on the road in

2185
02:09:25,290 --> 02:09:26,730
Tokyo. I'm Amy Goodman,

2186
02:09:26,730 --> 02:09:29,790
Han is getting ready to mark the
third anniversary of one of the

2187
02:09:29,790 --> 02:09:35,250
world's worst atomic disasters.
It was March 11 2011 When a

2188
02:09:35,250 --> 02:09:40,290
massive 9.0 magnitude earthquake
triggered a devastating tsunami

2189
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:43,800
that struck Japan's northeast
coast what began as a natural

2190
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:48,300
disaster quickly cascaded into a
manmade one as system after

2191
02:09:48,300 --> 02:09:51,690
system failed at the Fukushima
Daiichi nuclear power plant.

2192
02:09:51,690 --> 02:09:56,490
My god John Hold on I gotta
stop. She is everything fair?

2193
02:09:56,550 --> 02:09:57,930
She's read it like this.

2194
02:09:59,370 --> 02:10:03,000
She's always tried to read like
Walter Cronkite. That's what

2195
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:03,450
she's trying

2196
02:10:03,450 --> 02:10:04,230
to do. It's Yeah,

2197
02:10:04,260 --> 02:10:07,950
boy, three of the six reactors
suffered meltdowns. Really

2198
02:10:07,980 --> 02:10:13,380
no wrong, wrong. Wrong stop.
There was no meltdown Shut up

2199
02:10:13,410 --> 02:10:17,460
deadly radiation into the
atmosphere and the ocean. Three

2200
02:10:17,460 --> 02:10:21,030
years later, Japan is still
reeling from the impact of the

2201
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:26,970
disaster. More than 340,000
people became nuclear refugees

2202
02:10:26,970 --> 02:10:30,210
forced to abandon their homes
and their livelihoods entire

2203
02:10:30,210 --> 02:10:34,860
towns were forced to evacuate,
evacuate, including Futaba, a

2204
02:10:34,860 --> 02:10:38,880
town that house part of the
Fukushima Daiichi plant before

2205
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:43,860
March 11 2011. nearly 7000
people lived in the town today

2206
02:10:43,860 --> 02:10:46,200
Futaba is a nuclear ghost town.

2207
02:10:47,730 --> 02:10:51,540
Hey, how is Nagasaki and
Hiroshima are they nuclear ghost

2208
02:10:51,540 --> 02:10:56,280
towns? Oh, by the way, not a
single US president ever has

2209
02:10:56,280 --> 02:11:02,760
visited the war memorial for
Nagasaki or Hiroshima? You want

2210
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:06,150
to talk about nuclear disaster
AMY GOODMAN you shit

2211
02:11:06,810 --> 02:11:10,560
it's okay so she brings on the
mayor of either that town she

2212
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:15,510
just mentioned or Fukushima is
medicine and this before we get

2213
02:11:15,510 --> 02:11:19,440
to the kind of the other meat
this it to me it was just

2214
02:11:19,470 --> 02:11:23,370
ridiculous. It was a giveaway it
was a setup it was the whole

2215
02:11:23,370 --> 02:11:26,940
thing tells me what a scam and
leading the rest of the clips

2216
02:11:26,940 --> 02:11:31,590
what a scam. She's into. Just
you'll you will have to laugh at

2217
02:11:31,590 --> 02:11:34,620
the punch line to this one. Is
this Amy and Amy with the mayor.

2218
02:11:35,610 --> 02:11:38,340
Oh, I'm sorry. Do you have them
numbered but it's not okay.

2219
02:11:38,340 --> 02:11:38,970
Robert, I got it.

2220
02:11:39,150 --> 02:11:42,600
In the United States a nuclear
power plant has not been built

2221
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:47,340
in close to 40 years, very much
because of the anti nuclear

2222
02:11:47,340 --> 02:11:51,810
movement and the cost of what it
means to build a nuclear power

2223
02:11:51,810 --> 02:11:55,440
plant and what to do with the
waste. But President Obama has

2224
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:59,790
talked about a nuclear resident
renaissance and is pushing for

2225
02:11:59,790 --> 02:12:03,510
the building of several new
plants for the first time in

2226
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:06,960
decades. What message would you
share with him?

2227
02:12:08,370 --> 02:12:11,880
Okay, impersonal Chico, he Han
no fisherman logical diversity

2228
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:15,960
master. The nuclear power
disaster is not just a Fukushima

2229
02:12:16,260 --> 02:12:20,490
gene Do you know Thursday
schedule logical this. This is a

2230
02:12:20,490 --> 02:12:24,660
disaster of all humanity of the
entire world. Nihon Makoto was

2231
02:12:24,660 --> 02:12:28,710
only there is a Japanese saying
nanomotors handled to you Koto

2232
02:12:28,740 --> 02:12:37,140
Coronavirus Zico drop Sankai
Medina gain chi the co2

2233
02:12:37,140 --> 02:12:42,120
Yokozuna, meaning is that well,
any kind of disaster is or three

2234
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:48,210
times is the limit. America,
children OBD Steve Kusuma Mo's

2235
02:12:48,210 --> 02:12:51,240
Hunka magical question Mr. And
we've had the three large

2236
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:54,030
disasters, one in the United
States, one at Chernobyl and now

2237
02:12:54,030 --> 02:12:58,500
Fukushima, chorizo. Excuse
Campuzano Zico here is the

2238
02:12:58,500 --> 02:13:01,410
Creator who has an intimacy the
earth will not be able to cope

2239
02:13:01,410 --> 02:13:04,860
with any further nuclear
disasters Surah Nicodemo Toluca,

2240
02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:08,160
mini Z Yamato see this for the
children of the future the

2241
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:09,120
future generations I

2242
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:12,630
hope that we can stop this now.
What is the alternative to

2243
02:13:12,630 --> 02:13:13,050
calling

2244
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:19,290
the MA medica? Or shear to
customer holiness? I've heard in

2245
02:13:19,290 --> 02:13:21,210
the US there is shale gas for
example.

2246
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:27,330
No, you don't say you guys give

2247
02:13:27,330 --> 02:13:32,490
your mind people fracking? Oh

2248
02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:37,710
no, the fracking is good. That's
That's great.

2249
02:13:38,610 --> 02:13:42,600
When we bring this guy up this
guy in and Amy starts off like

2250
02:13:43,770 --> 02:13:46,500
this character runs this company
they name and I don't have it

2251
02:13:46,500 --> 02:13:48,690
off top my head but you'll hear
it and it's actually pretty

2252
02:13:48,690 --> 02:13:52,740
cool. This guy's a cool guy. And
he's having none of her like

2253
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:56,670
suppositions and her
freakishness about in this

2254
02:13:56,670 --> 02:14:00,270
reported Neil's here to start
with the Amy Goodman zero

2255
02:14:00,540 --> 02:14:03,840
Safecast volunteers use Geiger
counters and open source

2256
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,300
software to measure the
radiation then post the data

2257
02:14:06,300 --> 02:14:08,460
online for anyone to access.

2258
02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:12,570
Now I want to I do need to set
it up a little bit this company

2259
02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:17,640
safe cast she I'm convinced she
brought this guy on thinking to

2260
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:21,960
be like another shill for her
opinions about the nuke industry

2261
02:14:22,050 --> 02:14:24,420
and that we're all gonna die and
this guy is going to prove it

2262
02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:26,370
because he's actually gone out
there and created this

2263
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:29,820
interesting little system where
you were it's kind of like

2264
02:14:29,820 --> 02:14:33,420
Google Google cars that take
pictures. They just drive around

2265
02:14:33,420 --> 02:14:36,510
with a Geiger counter and they
with the GPS and then they

2266
02:14:36,540 --> 02:14:40,620
monitor what what the radiation
is. Turns out not to be quite as

2267
02:14:40,890 --> 02:14:44,340
as horrible as she's imagining
it but but not play this

2268
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:45,570
finished this clip zero

2269
02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:48,630
open source software to measure
the radiation then post the data

2270
02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:52,710
online for anyone to access.
Their effort comes as Japan

2271
02:14:52,710 --> 02:14:56,010
recently passed a new secrecy
bill. Well for more we're joined

2272
02:14:56,010 --> 02:14:59,730
by Peter Franken who is co
founder of safe cast Welcome to

2273
02:14:59,730 --> 02:15:03,630
Democ See now explain what it is
you've done. You're turning

2274
02:15:03,630 --> 02:15:05,730
smartphones into Geiger
counters.

2275
02:15:06,270 --> 02:15:11,070
Not really. Not really. Yeah.
goes,

2276
02:15:11,250 --> 02:15:15,420
what? Where did you even get
that idea? So it gives her a

2277
02:15:15,420 --> 02:15:19,680
dumb Look. She's, she's like she
I think she thought that was the

2278
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:22,980
case. And she was hoping to find
out how people can use their

2279
02:15:22,980 --> 02:15:27,330
smartphones as Geiger counters,
which makes no sense. But okay,

2280
02:15:27,630 --> 02:15:29,430
so we go on now we have to well,

2281
02:15:29,460 --> 02:15:33,480
to be to be fair, there is a way
with the camera. Yeah, I know.

2282
02:15:33,480 --> 02:15:36,270
You can take some radiation.
Yeah, but it's not. It's not

2283
02:15:36,270 --> 02:15:39,930
like a Geiger counter. And it's
not going to be exact. I have a

2284
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:41,760
I have a nice Geiger counter
here.

2285
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:50,010
Oh, I have one two knots that go
to Amy to radiation and Tokyo

2286
02:15:50,010 --> 02:15:52,290
because now she's trying to get
the guy to say we're all going

2287
02:15:52,290 --> 02:15:55,230
to die. And I'm taking a huge
chance by being in Tokyo. But

2288
02:15:55,230 --> 02:15:56,370
I'm only here three days.

2289
02:15:56,670 --> 02:15:59,010
We're here in Tokyo. And this is
where Fukushima as you can see,

2290
02:15:59,010 --> 02:16:00,210
there's a big difference.

2291
02:16:01,380 --> 02:16:06,000
I hold on. That's the gets
nervous clip. I think know that.

2292
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:10,260
Well. You want me to play? No,
no, I'm playing radiation in

2293
02:16:10,260 --> 02:16:12,180
Tokyo. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry.

2294
02:16:12,990 --> 02:16:18,930
Yes. 150 miles up the coast.
Yes. And how toxic or

2295
02:16:18,930 --> 02:16:20,310
radioactive is it here,

2296
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:26,820
compared to to the rest of
Japan, Tokyo got a certain

2297
02:16:26,820 --> 02:16:30,270
amount of Fallout, relatively
speaking, I think the levels

2298
02:16:31,230 --> 02:16:34,470
what they are today, or maybe
50% higher than what they were

2299
02:16:34,470 --> 02:16:38,040
before the disaster that
compared to locations in

2300
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:41,100
Fukushima is actually relatively
low. So in terms of, you know,

2301
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:44,850
really exposure to
radioactivity, this is nothing

2302
02:16:44,850 --> 02:16:46,710
compared to what what is
happening in Fukushima

2303
02:16:46,710 --> 02:16:49,320
Prefecture and areas around
there. Shit.

2304
02:16:49,770 --> 02:16:52,620
This is not that she didn't get
the answer she wanted to know.

2305
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:55,140
Now, did they actually the other
clips should have been played

2306
02:16:55,140 --> 02:16:58,440
first. That was my mistake. But
play this is before he explains

2307
02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:00,960
all this, that there's nothing
to worry about. This is her

2308
02:17:01,020 --> 02:17:04,200
reacting to hips doing nothing
more than holding up a tablet,

2309
02:17:04,350 --> 02:17:06,570
and then zooming in on Tokyo.

2310
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:10,890
And I'll try to kind of zoom
into where we are right now in

2311
02:17:10,890 --> 02:17:16,440
Tokyo. And as we're zooming in
are very nervous. And see every

2312
02:17:16,470 --> 02:17:18,930
single 3d Because the all the
measurements we have done,

2313
02:17:18,930 --> 02:17:22,140
Rhonda, you're making me very
nervous, because I'm going to

2314
02:17:22,140 --> 02:17:25,830
die of radiation. Wow,

2315
02:17:25,949 --> 02:17:28,979
I was just that when she said
that. I was thinking what kind

2316
02:17:28,979 --> 02:17:32,099
of what a screwed up person.
This guy can ask

2317
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:38,250
you a question about this
report. Yeah. I'm I'm amazed

2318
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:43,980
that Amy is even in Japan,
because, you know, the nuclear

2319
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:49,440
fallout and the radiation from
Hiroshima and from Nagasaki has

2320
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:52,890
just got to be frying her right
now. She must be extremely

2321
02:17:52,890 --> 02:17:58,080
worried about that true nuclear
explosion, a real nuclear bomb

2322
02:17:58,110 --> 02:18:02,010
that went How far is let's just
hold on a second before ways how

2323
02:18:02,010 --> 02:18:07,380
far is Nagasaki? Nagasaki from
Tokyo?

2324
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:11,160
How far? Because let's find out

2325
02:18:11,190 --> 02:18:13,260
because you know, of course we
all know that. You know this,

2326
02:18:13,290 --> 02:18:19,020
this radiation is going from all
the way from

2327
02:18:19,560 --> 02:18:22,740
Nagasaki to Tokyo. I'll look up
Hiroshima. All right.

2328
02:18:23,099 --> 02:18:25,259
I shall ask Google for
directions.

2329
02:18:25,439 --> 02:18:26,219
That's what I'm doing.

2330
02:18:27,179 --> 02:18:31,859
It's it's quite a ways actually.
It seems to be. Oh, that's quite

2331
02:18:31,859 --> 02:18:33,869
a ways. Oh, yeah.

2332
02:18:34,260 --> 02:18:38,460
Russia was long ways. Oh, yeah.
It's 420 miles.

2333
02:18:38,759 --> 02:18:45,629
Now is that that's not as far as
Fukushima 250

2334
02:18:45,630 --> 02:18:46,050
Miles

2335
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:48,960
right to San Francisco. I mean,
they were all worried about with

2336
02:18:48,960 --> 02:18:52,530
the beaches, you know, that we
have washed up on the beach. So

2337
02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:55,950
I would be very worried about
the actual nuclear explosions

2338
02:18:55,950 --> 02:18:58,530
that killed people. That
radiation could be frying you

2339
02:18:58,530 --> 02:19:00,810
Amy Goodman, you should be very,
very worried. She

2340
02:19:00,840 --> 02:19:03,870
apparently got a paid speech.
And that's why she's there. Ah,

2341
02:19:03,870 --> 02:19:07,350
okay. Gotcha. Yes. Now she fit
after this last clip, which is

2342
02:19:07,350 --> 02:19:12,090
Amy, Amy. Number three TEPCO.
Now she has tried with this guy

2343
02:19:12,090 --> 02:19:16,470
to get him to be like, scary to
be scary. He's having none of

2344
02:19:16,470 --> 02:19:18,690
it. He's actually doing what
he's doing. Sounds like a really

2345
02:19:18,690 --> 02:19:22,350
good idea. This this operation
safe. koehlers Whatever it is,

2346
02:19:22,350 --> 02:19:26,280
that is just monitoring is no
big deal. Now. Cast. So she

2347
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:28,620
said, Well, there's the new
secrecy law. She started off

2348
02:19:28,620 --> 02:19:31,200
with that they're trying to
still trying to keep this

2349
02:19:31,200 --> 02:19:33,120
information from the public. She
reads

2350
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:36,270
World World News Daily or
something for show prep. What is

2351
02:19:36,270 --> 02:19:37,020
she doing?

2352
02:19:37,740 --> 02:19:40,680
Now? She's got her she knows
she's got the ace in the hole.

2353
02:19:40,860 --> 02:19:45,000
She's got to TEPCO, those evil
TEPCO owners, she knows that

2354
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,970
they have to be meddling with
this guy. There's they're,

2355
02:19:48,300 --> 02:19:49,560
they're screwing with me.

2356
02:19:50,310 --> 02:19:51,390
The Koch brothers

2357
02:19:52,590 --> 02:19:57,180
got involved. So here we go with
the final the CUDA toggi. Or the

2358
02:19:57,180 --> 02:19:59,970
CUDA grass that she thinks she's
got here and she's got a nail

2359
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,930
Amir, we strongly believe that
in order to have credibility,

2360
02:20:03,930 --> 02:20:08,040
you need to check your data. And
we save cost. Our goal is to

2361
02:20:08,250 --> 02:20:11,010
independently measure as
citizens if the data is correct

2362
02:20:11,010 --> 02:20:11,700
or not. And when

2363
02:20:11,700 --> 02:20:15,270
the response of the corporation
TEPCO, the Tokyo Electric Power

2364
02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:20,220
Company that runs the owns the
nuclear power plants to what

2365
02:20:20,220 --> 02:20:20,700
you're doing.

2366
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:24,180
We have never been contacted by
TEPCO, so I can't really give

2367
02:20:24,180 --> 02:20:24,330
her

2368
02:20:27,930 --> 02:20:31,080
I love closes the show right
after that

2369
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:37,590
I love when journalists waste my
time by expanding the acronym.

2370
02:20:39,300 --> 02:20:45,360
Yeah. This happens a lot, by the
way, and I think it's used to

2371
02:20:45,870 --> 02:20:50,010
show some authority, like, look
how smart I am. I know what

2372
02:20:50,010 --> 02:20:52,860
TEPCO stands for. Let's listen
to it again. And that guy's

2373
02:20:52,860 --> 02:20:53,850
answers genius

2374
02:20:53,880 --> 02:20:56,460
runs the owns the nuclear

2375
02:20:57,780 --> 02:21:00,180
only measure US citizens if the
data is correct.

2376
02:21:00,540 --> 02:21:03,690
And the response of the
corporation TEPCO, the Tokyo

2377
02:21:03,690 --> 02:21:07,260
Electric Power Company, that
runs the whole on

2378
02:21:07,260 --> 02:21:10,290
the homeless, she must know she
must know her stuff. She She

2379
02:21:10,290 --> 02:21:11,580
knows the acronym is the

2380
02:21:11,880 --> 02:21:13,200
nuclear power plants to

2381
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:16,440
what you're doing. We have never
been contacted by TEPCO, so I

2382
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:17,580
can't really give her

2383
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:21,990
that's it good being on the
road, everybody.

2384
02:21:23,790 --> 02:21:27,090
And then she signs off. She was
just so disappointed with this

2385
02:21:27,090 --> 02:21:31,650
guy. Somebody does show rapper
does booking. Yeah, must have

2386
02:21:31,650 --> 02:21:34,770
gotten something screwed up
because I'm sure she, the person

2387
02:21:34,770 --> 02:21:38,340
the booker got chewed out
because this guy did not perform

2388
02:21:38,340 --> 02:21:39,360
as advertised.

2389
02:21:40,530 --> 02:21:46,890
And I just love the response
from the uninformed towards

2390
02:21:46,890 --> 02:21:52,950
these types of segments where we
always get the same thing,

2391
02:21:53,250 --> 02:21:58,410
but you're talking about the the
various douche segment of the

2392
02:21:58,410 --> 02:21:59,070
chat room.

2393
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:02,760
Yes. Oh, if it's so safe, why
don't you go through the podcast

2394
02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:09,600
from Japan? Well, funny you
asked, because we will be doing

2395
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:15,300
just that. I'm gonna go to Japan
with Miss Mickey. She's gonna do

2396
02:22:15,300 --> 02:22:18,900
a show in Japan. We hope we
already have you know, we have a

2397
02:22:18,900 --> 02:22:22,050
Damon a night there. Oh, I'm
sorry. We better hurry before

2398
02:22:22,050 --> 02:22:24,540
they're dead. We gotta go.

2399
02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:27,660
Yeah, you better get there in
the next 40 years.

2400
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:30,150
Sir Mark and Dame Astrid, they
may be dead. You know, it can

2401
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:35,460
never make it in time. I just
Google Fukushima. Oh, no, no, it

2402
02:22:35,460 --> 02:22:40,530
was Hiroshima syndrome. Who will
that take a look at that guy's

2403
02:22:40,530 --> 02:22:44,940
site. He wants them. It is
catching on though. I have to

2404
02:22:44,940 --> 02:22:49,290
say more and more people. And
alternative media are saying

2405
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:51,810
Hey, hold on a second. This you
know there's a lot of

2406
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:53,850
misinformation out here. And

2407
02:22:54,119 --> 02:22:57,029
there's a lot of this an AMI
saying there's three meltdowns?

2408
02:22:57,059 --> 02:22:57,629
I mean, right there.

2409
02:22:57,630 --> 02:22:59,430
That's a lie. That is a lie.

2410
02:22:59,430 --> 02:23:00,630
It's a blatant lie.

2411
02:23:00,660 --> 02:23:01,980
No meltdown.

2412
02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:06,450
And I don't even know that we
have what gets me is in the chat

2413
02:23:06,450 --> 02:23:10,410
room. Is that? Are there people
that just listen to the show?

2414
02:23:10,410 --> 02:23:13,290
And think what we say even
though we document everything

2415
02:23:13,500 --> 02:23:16,680
with either clips or actual
documents, government documents,

2416
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:21,450
that we're just making this up?
Yes. Yeah, no, and we're just

2417
02:23:21,780 --> 02:23:24,600
why does it bother listening to
the show is baffling. Are we

2418
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:26,220
that entertaining?

2419
02:23:26,310 --> 02:23:30,480
It's no I think, yeah. Well,
first of all, yes, we are we of

2420
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:33,330
course we're entertaining. We're
and we're and this is a comedy

2421
02:23:33,330 --> 02:23:39,780
show after all. But it is very
It is human nature for people to

2422
02:23:39,960 --> 02:23:44,820
who are frustrated and angry. to
project onto other people. This

2423
02:23:44,820 --> 02:23:47,370
is what the whole gay thing in
Russia is about. We talked about

2424
02:23:47,370 --> 02:23:51,150
in the last show, you know, the
gays are being beat up all over

2425
02:23:51,150 --> 02:23:54,270
the United States all over
Europe. We have Muslims, you

2426
02:23:54,270 --> 02:23:58,020
know, terrorising gays in
Europe. I'm calling them out. I

2427
02:23:58,020 --> 02:24:00,780
can it's true. This is what's
happening. I speak some of the

2428
02:24:00,780 --> 02:24:04,230
language over there. And then
the same people who have Muslims

2429
02:24:04,890 --> 02:24:09,240
being welcomed into their
country, and being provided with

2430
02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:15,420
social services who are are are
seriously terrorising LGBTQ Q

2431
02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:19,290
eyes. These the same people who
are the most vocal about Russia.

2432
02:24:20,250 --> 02:24:23,520
It's easy and you're being
manipulated by the Koch

2433
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:25,080
brothers. I'm telling you, all
the

2434
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:28,650
Koch brothers are doing it all.
We were

2435
02:24:28,650 --> 02:24:31,470
at we were at the at the end.
This is by the way, the Dell

2436
02:24:31,500 --> 02:24:34,350
long Centre, which Michael Dell
and his wife build, I have to

2437
02:24:34,350 --> 02:24:37,500
say is it's a beautiful venue.
It's right down the road from

2438
02:24:37,500 --> 02:24:42,660
us. And they have a donor's
Lounge, which was because the

2439
02:24:42,660 --> 02:24:48,480
guy who invited us Eric he had a
table and was it was good setup.

2440
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:52,440
And then this lady comes over
and she's she's a big MTV fan.

2441
02:24:52,830 --> 02:24:57,870
Yeah. And but she she spots
Mickey first, and then she's Oh,

2442
02:24:57,870 --> 02:25:00,510
I know who you are. And her
husband. What As the chairman of

2443
02:25:00,510 --> 02:25:06,120
the board of the Dell centre and
she's talking about and she's

2444
02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:11,310
What do you do on like, well, I
didn't feel like saying I'm a

2445
02:25:11,310 --> 02:25:14,370
bomb and everything's podcasts.
Oh, yeah. No, I've heard about

2446
02:25:14,370 --> 02:25:18,210
your podcast to listen to it. No
agenda. Yeah, no, I watch

2447
02:25:18,210 --> 02:25:20,460
everything left and right, left
and right. I watched Fox and I

2448
02:25:20,460 --> 02:25:23,760
watch MSNBC. And it's crazy.
Crazy. Crazy. And this fox

2449
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:27,180
people are crazy. I said, Well,
you know, it's run by Democrats.

2450
02:25:27,540 --> 02:25:30,270
Smoke. John smoke came out of
it. Like what? You made it not

2451
02:25:30,270 --> 02:25:35,340
run by the Koch brothers. No,
but why does everyone watch the

2452
02:25:35,340 --> 02:25:39,420
midst? What else? Have you seen
the legs on Fox News? And you'll

2453
02:25:39,420 --> 02:25:42,780
now her eyes are rolling back in
her head. I can't wait. She She

2454
02:25:42,810 --> 02:25:44,100
She said she would listen so

2455
02:25:45,060 --> 02:25:49,050
well listen, because it's not
video. Ad. Have you noticed?

2456
02:25:49,050 --> 02:25:51,000
Have you? Oh, yeah. You know,
I've seen your show.

2457
02:25:51,420 --> 02:25:56,070
Yeah, that's I'm sorry, we that
you did not actually watch digit

2458
02:25:56,070 --> 02:25:58,950
now. But the same with with the
men come so we had a

2459
02:25:58,950 --> 02:26:03,000
conversation about this concept
of giving everybody a set amount

2460
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:06,750
of money. And and that this has
been tried and you know, there's

2461
02:26:06,750 --> 02:26:11,070
been tests, etc. And we're just
discussing it. Right? And then

2462
02:26:11,070 --> 02:26:15,180
the first email I get is, oh,
well, you should stop maybe your

2463
02:26:15,180 --> 02:26:20,430
value for value system, then try
that. Isn't the kind of this is

2464
02:26:20,490 --> 02:26:21,960
this is exactly the kind of
email,

2465
02:26:22,140 --> 02:26:25,470
same guy. Why does he keep
contacting us? This was a

2466
02:26:25,470 --> 02:26:28,590
different guy. Oh is different
guy with that same voice? I

2467
02:26:28,590 --> 02:26:32,520
wonder if I can find that. It
was funny. Parents like wow, why

2468
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:35,610
do you get all angry? What?
Instead of I look, you couldn't

2469
02:26:35,610 --> 02:26:39,720
you can disagree. You can have
opinions. But the people who say

2470
02:26:39,780 --> 02:26:43,140
well, you should start your
podcast in Japan, you should do

2471
02:26:43,140 --> 02:26:53,010
this. It's like, just go away.
Yeah, really go away. Crazy. To

2472
02:26:53,010 --> 02:26:58,260
have our producers, their young
uns, I believe. You just see

2473
02:26:58,260 --> 02:27:03,840
what I had this. We have Brandon
and Carrie. And they have I

2474
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:06,630
guess Carrie is also she's
completely into legislation

2475
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:10,290
stuff. And they're both
producers. And they listen to

2476
02:27:10,290 --> 02:27:15,660
the show. I believe they're
relatively young like 20s. And

2477
02:27:15,660 --> 02:27:20,100
they sent me two bills,
education bills from New York

2478
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:24,600
state from the New York State
Senate. Which I had no idea this

2479
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:31,080
was going on. And I was really
astounded by the first one bill

2480
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:37,380
and so these are proposed bills.
And I don't see any reason why

2481
02:27:37,380 --> 02:27:44,190
they wouldn't go into law. A
8186 Dash 2013 Which on January

2482
02:27:44,220 --> 02:27:47,070
8 2014, was referred to
education. So I'm pretty sure

2483
02:27:47,070 --> 02:27:50,880
this will this will pass an act
to amend the education law this

2484
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:54,360
for New York State in relation
to including psychological

2485
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:57,870
screening for students in public
schools as part of the required

2486
02:27:57,870 --> 02:28:02,910
health certificate. Oh, I did
not know first of all that in

2487
02:28:02,910 --> 02:28:06,600
New York State. A health
certificate shall be furnished

2488
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:10,020
by each student in the public
schools upon his or her entrance

2489
02:28:10,020 --> 02:28:13,560
in such school, and upon his or
her entry into the grades

2490
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:17,040
prescribed by the commissioner
in regulations, provided that

2491
02:28:17,040 --> 02:28:19,830
such regulation shall require
such certificates at least twice

2492
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:23,430
during the elementary grades and
twice in the secondary grades.

2493
02:28:23,460 --> 02:28:26,070
Yes, make sure that people get
their flu shots. This is done by

2494
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:27,090
the drug companies.

2495
02:28:27,420 --> 02:28:32,190
So here's the new part performed
and that the child is mentally

2496
02:28:32,190 --> 02:28:35,400
fit to permit attendance at
school. Each certificate shall

2497
02:28:35,400 --> 02:28:40,170
also state the student's body
mass index and weight status

2498
02:28:40,170 --> 02:28:43,860
category. Nice should they do?
Maybe you should check their

2499
02:28:43,860 --> 02:28:46,260
teeth make sure that they're
sturdy in their in their coats.

2500
02:28:47,250 --> 02:28:50,790
coats are shiny and make sure
their nails aren't too sharp.

2501
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:55,020
Yeah, for purposes of this
section, Batty body mass index

2502
02:28:55,020 --> 02:28:57,390
is computed as the weight in
kilogrammes divided by the

2503
02:28:57,390 --> 02:29:00,720
square of height in metres or
the weight in pounds divided by

2504
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:05,670
the square bah bah bah. This is
very disturbing. They are now

2505
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:11,190
equating body mass index to
mental health. And then the

2506
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:15,180
second one bill S 142 duchies.
All

2507
02:29:15,180 --> 02:29:18,630
because of Honey BooBoo. There's
no doubt about it. Well, okay.

2508
02:29:20,340 --> 02:29:24,300
So this has now been referred to
the Education Committee January

2509
02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:28,710
8 2014. This bill, an act to
amend the education law in

2510
02:29:28,710 --> 02:29:31,920
relation to requiring persons in
parental relation with a child

2511
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:35,460
of elementary school age to
attend. Parents support

2512
02:29:35,460 --> 02:29:41,340
programmes. The purpose of this
bill requires parents to attend

2513
02:29:41,370 --> 02:29:45,180
support programmes designed to
enhance parenting skills.

2514
02:29:48,180 --> 02:29:52,080
Wow, you're not doing it. This
will be clearer by the day.

2515
02:29:55,170 --> 02:29:59,130
Summary of scientific provisions
amends the Education Law Section

2516
02:29:59,130 --> 02:30:03,330
3212 subdivision two by adding a
new paragraph F requires parents

2517
02:30:03,330 --> 02:30:06,810
of elementary school children to
attend a minimum of four parents

2518
02:30:06,810 --> 02:30:08,820
support instruction programmes.

2519
02:30:13,860 --> 02:30:17,940
Prior to the child's advancement
to the seventh grade requires

2520
02:30:17,940 --> 02:30:21,630
employers to provide one day per
year of paid job leave for the

2521
02:30:21,630 --> 02:30:24,540
purposes of attending such
instruction programmes.

2522
02:30:30,450 --> 02:30:34,290
This stuff amends the Education
Law Section three nine This is

2523
02:30:34,290 --> 02:30:37,290
gotta be going on and a lot of
this requires the commissioner

2524
02:30:37,290 --> 02:30:40,860
in consultation with the Board
of Regents to develop guidelines

2525
02:30:41,070 --> 02:30:44,730
for the content and distribution
of a series of 12 parenting

2526
02:30:44,730 --> 02:30:49,260
workshops provides that the
topic of one such workshop shall

2527
02:30:49,260 --> 02:30:53,130
be related to the physical,
emotional and sexual abuse of

2528
02:30:53,130 --> 02:30:56,550
children requires that
completion of four workshops

2529
02:30:56,550 --> 02:30:58,260
prior to the child's graduate
have

2530
02:30:58,260 --> 02:31:00,690
workshops on how to abuse
children

2531
02:31:04,470 --> 02:31:07,560
requires the completion of four
workshops prior to the child's

2532
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:10,650
graduation from the sixth grade
and shall be a requirement for

2533
02:31:10,650 --> 02:31:16,200
advancement to the seventh grade
you've got to go to the workshop

2534
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:17,730
where I won't graduate

2535
02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:24,360
wow this is sad sad it's also
annoying they Sharon

2536
02:31:24,390 --> 02:31:27,960
makes you not want to have kids.
Maybe that's the point.

2537
02:31:28,590 --> 02:31:36,720
I could be have a couple of
oddball clips. I do have a one

2538
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:40,230
just because I know you've got a
bunch of stuff left. But I do

2539
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:41,940
have a little entre Mall.

2540
02:31:42,450 --> 02:31:44,550
Oh, and I'll draw that's the
little thing that the little

2541
02:31:44,550 --> 02:31:46,980
thing the chef has prepared
specifically for You to cleanse

2542
02:31:46,980 --> 02:31:50,790
your palate in between yes, it
comes in a little shot glass and

2543
02:31:50,790 --> 02:31:51,360
you'd be you can

2544
02:31:51,450 --> 02:31:54,150
usually you don't know why
they're just gonna give you a

2545
02:31:54,150 --> 02:31:55,530
shot at something that'd be
great.

2546
02:31:55,560 --> 02:31:58,170
I don't know if you should drink
it or are you spoon it you never

2547
02:31:58,170 --> 02:31:59,100
quite hands Yeah,

2548
02:31:59,130 --> 02:32:02,340
they usually they usually
there's instructions that come

2549
02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:03,810
with the entre ma i always like

2550
02:32:03,870 --> 02:32:07,620
the chef ends up the chef has
prepared this for you especially

2551
02:32:07,650 --> 02:32:10,410
now we haven't you got a whole
fucking thing you did earlier on

2552
02:32:10,410 --> 02:32:11,610
bullshit me with that?

2553
02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:14,940
Yeah, I know I hate that by the
way. I will always want to throw

2554
02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:17,850
it in the waiters face when they
say when they lie to me and be

2555
02:32:17,850 --> 02:32:19,140
lying to me and by the

2556
02:32:19,140 --> 02:32:22,230
way I've had a lot of lie I've
had a lot of success in Austin

2557
02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:26,580
with my 142 degrees what
temperature would you like your

2558
02:32:26,580 --> 02:32:30,900
meat sir? 142 degrees 60

2559
02:32:32,580 --> 02:32:34,320
I forgot about I think I'm going
to try it has

2560
02:32:34,320 --> 02:32:36,090
someone asked you this yet or
you haven't

2561
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:38,310
been no no and the West Coast
they still don't how would you

2562
02:32:38,310 --> 02:32:40,530
like it done they've not asked
what temperature

2563
02:32:40,830 --> 02:32:43,920
in Los Angeles Texas thing No
it's Los Angeles is where I

2564
02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:46,140
heard this first. Oh really? Yes
as well.

2565
02:32:46,140 --> 02:32:50,190
It has gravitated up here with
thank god that's why we gave you

2566
02:32:50,190 --> 02:32:53,340
the Fukushima ratty right here
that I'm going to spit it the

2567
02:32:53,340 --> 02:32:55,680
guy in and throw my napkin down
and walk out

2568
02:32:58,080 --> 02:32:58,590
okay

2569
02:33:00,540 --> 02:33:03,600
so this is a new segment I want
to see maybe you won't like it

2570
02:33:03,600 --> 02:33:05,970
you're always I try these new
segments all the time trying to

2571
02:33:05,970 --> 02:33:10,380
keep the show fresh living show
fresh fresh. I always try to

2572
02:33:10,380 --> 02:33:13,740
keep the show a living fresh
living show. And this one is

2573
02:33:13,740 --> 02:33:17,160
going to be this new segments
called guests the movie and you

2574
02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:19,410
have to guess the movie because
I know you're a great movie

2575
02:33:19,410 --> 02:33:19,890
buff.

2576
02:33:22,590 --> 02:33:27,720
Okay, Seymour butts 30 No, no,
you guessed it I've got a clip I

2577
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:33,540
get oh I'm sorry I guess all
right guess the movie. And now I

2578
02:33:33,540 --> 02:33:37,920
see the clip is 40 seconds with
it now are you gonna give me any

2579
02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:39,210
frame of reference?

2580
02:33:40,020 --> 02:33:43,890
No. Okay everyone's just such a
classic clip that you'll guess

2581
02:33:43,890 --> 02:33:49,230
it immediate everyone be quiet I
have to concentrate now. Top Gun

2582
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:52,830
this play the clip then guess

2583
02:33:58,260 --> 02:34:04,380
Wait, wait, this is much better.
I care ozone magic mixture. Let

2584
02:34:04,380 --> 02:34:12,660
me help you What do you think
you're doing? Covering your

2585
02:34:12,660 --> 02:34:17,280
wound? My wound is lower. We
don't

2586
02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:24,090
want infection to spread. Bread
your head open. This is what the

2587
02:34:24,090 --> 02:34:29,520
world has come to get try to
help somebody. And what do you

2588
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:33,810
get instead? Thanks. Threats

2589
02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:41,610
okay. This is a dumb segment.
Because I haven't given a

2590
02:34:41,610 --> 02:34:42,330
guess or not.

2591
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:44,490
I have no idea I have known in

2592
02:34:44,490 --> 02:34:53,130
the destroyer starring Arnold
Schwarzenegger. All right.

2593
02:34:53,250 --> 02:34:54,810
That's more of a movie buff.

2594
02:34:54,869 --> 02:34:59,849
Not at all. Oh, what did they
think that I don't know. I don't

2595
02:34:59,849 --> 02:35:01,499
know. Anything about movies?

2596
02:35:01,530 --> 02:35:05,880
Oh, okay, well, that's okay.
Well Can the segment. I mean, I

2597
02:35:05,880 --> 02:35:06,330
can

2598
02:35:06,360 --> 02:35:09,990
do that for your movie, but
you're the movie buff. You're

2599
02:35:09,990 --> 02:35:14,130
just setting this up for it when
I'm dead. Oh, you have a

2600
02:35:14,130 --> 02:35:14,790
segment,

2601
02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:19,410
I'll be talking about movies.
The movies the other day

2602
02:35:19,589 --> 02:35:22,919
as John C. Dvorak said movie
time, everybody liked that

2603
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:23,520
movie.

2604
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:32,310
Okay, a couple things here. We
two received an email from

2605
02:35:32,700 --> 02:35:38,490
Target. Of course we were, we
were part of the attack and had

2606
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:43,290
all our cards reissued. Mickey
got like a whole bunch of stuff

2607
02:35:43,290 --> 02:35:47,850
going on. And she received the
email from Target, which I'm

2608
02:35:47,850 --> 02:35:49,740
sure you've seen. Have you seen
this email you've heard of I

2609
02:35:49,740 --> 02:35:49,980
have

2610
02:35:50,010 --> 02:35:53,610
not seen the email since I was
not a targeted targeted by?

2611
02:35:54,210 --> 02:35:57,000
Well, it's interesting because a
lot of people who never even

2612
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,890
shopped at Target received this
email and the email essentially

2613
02:36:01,890 --> 02:36:05,700
says, we're going to get it
please click here to sign up for

2614
02:36:05,700 --> 02:36:10,350
a free year of consumer
protection. Consumer Credit

2615
02:36:10,350 --> 02:36:10,860
Protection

2616
02:36:10,860 --> 02:36:12,960
wasn't a scam email well,

2617
02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:15,990
so Mickey says, Oh, I got this
email. It looks like a scam

2618
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:22,620
because it's it says Target dot
o bi zero.com or something. I'm

2619
02:36:22,620 --> 02:36:25,200
like, Oh, that's a scam. And I
Googled around that. It turns

2620
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:28,770
out they hired a marketing
company to send out this email.

2621
02:36:29,220 --> 02:36:33,510
But more egregious when people
Yeah, its target dot BFI

2622
02:36:33,510 --> 02:36:39,330
zero.com Target news at Target
dot BFI zero.com. So people

2623
02:36:39,330 --> 02:36:42,000
started investigating? Yes, it
turns out, oh, yes, no, this is

2624
02:36:42,030 --> 02:36:45,840
this is this is legit. And
people are saying, well hold on

2625
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:48,720
a second. I've never shopped it
at Target, how'd you get my

2626
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:54,480
email address? Oh, well, we just
we just do this as normal course

2627
02:36:54,480 --> 02:37:00,420
of business. And some evidence
points to Amazon selling their

2628
02:37:00,420 --> 02:37:03,450
email addresses to this
marketing company, which is

2629
02:37:03,480 --> 02:37:05,880
egregious. And

2630
02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:08,130
never got one of these letters,
though, it still might

2631
02:37:08,130 --> 02:37:13,020
come. But more interesting, if
you then click around and go

2632
02:37:13,020 --> 02:37:16,320
through kind of the path because
they want to, they want you to

2633
02:37:16,320 --> 02:37:20,880
sign up to experience. There's
basically three credit agencies,

2634
02:37:20,880 --> 02:37:23,970
Experian is the one they're
promoting. And immediately I got

2635
02:37:23,970 --> 02:37:29,100
all kinds of other emails from
other companies. Oh, no, no, you

2636
02:37:29,100 --> 02:37:33,060
Oh, you have to you definitely
should be using us. And I just

2637
02:37:33,060 --> 02:37:36,150
looked at Experian their vision,
their vision statement on their

2638
02:37:36,150 --> 02:37:42,060
website. Yeah. Our vision is for
experienced people, data and

2639
02:37:42,060 --> 02:37:46,650
technology to become a necessary
part of every major consumer

2640
02:37:46,650 --> 02:37:51,540
economy in the world. Oh, God.
And this is why I'm just opting

2641
02:37:51,540 --> 02:37:54,600
out. I'm not doing it. I'm cash.
I'm debit card screwed. I'm not

2642
02:37:54,600 --> 02:37:57,870
being a part of your stupid ass
system, which the President

2643
02:37:57,870 --> 02:38:04,890
promotes. Very, very, very, very
bad. So here's so here's a

2644
02:38:04,890 --> 02:38:08,640
question for you then. To the
banks don't seem to care about

2645
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:09,000
this.

2646
02:38:09,660 --> 02:38:12,960
No, they don't care because they
got it covered. And you're

2647
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:19,110
always harping on how JP Morgan
has no problem coming up with

2648
02:38:19,290 --> 02:38:24,690
$20 billion in fines. Right.
Okay. Now, let me ask you a

2649
02:38:24,690 --> 02:38:29,340
question. So if you're JP
Morgan, right, and you got this,

2650
02:38:29,370 --> 02:38:33,930
you got these computers and
everything. And, and I really,

2651
02:38:34,020 --> 02:38:36,570
this is a real, it may sound
weird, this is a very serious

2652
02:38:36,570 --> 02:38:40,200
question. And the government
says, Alright, you got to give

2653
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:47,580
us $20 billion in fines. Now, is
it inconceivable that they just

2654
02:38:47,580 --> 02:38:51,780
send an email with a number with
20 million on it and say, Here

2655
02:38:51,780 --> 02:38:54,870
you go. Because you know, then
that no one actually took a

2656
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:59,760
truck of money? And said, Here
it is? Where show who actually

2657
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:06,150
controls this this money? Before
you answer? Is it not

2658
02:39:06,150 --> 02:39:09,000
conceivable? The banks are in?
That's a one big joke, and they

2659
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:13,620
just like, I'll just put it
we'll just send this email. Or,

2660
02:39:13,650 --> 02:39:15,870
you know, hey, what's your this
Paul? What? What's your name?

2661
02:39:15,900 --> 02:39:19,920
Mike Rogers? Oh, we see you have
$100,000. In your account, we

2662
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:23,490
just added a zero, you now have
a million? Is that not possible?

2663
02:39:23,490 --> 02:39:27,270
I mean, I wish they would who? I
mean, who tracks that? Who in

2664
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:31,830
the world tracks the numbers?
Because seriously, I have, let's

2665
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:36,780
say I have $5,000 in my bank
account. It seems pretty easy.

2666
02:39:36,780 --> 02:39:39,870
If I knew the guy well enough,
the chase guy, he could just add

2667
02:39:39,870 --> 02:39:45,150
a zero to that. Who would know
where where does this somewhere

2668
02:39:45,150 --> 02:39:49,590
at the Treasury does an alarm
bell go off? How does that work?

2669
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:49,860
It's

2670
02:39:49,860 --> 02:39:53,280
all double entry accounting at
some level even on the computer

2671
02:39:53,280 --> 02:39:56,880
level. So if you put the put a
zero on things, it's not going

2672
02:39:56,880 --> 02:39:58,740
to balance the books aren't
gonna balance and someone's

2673
02:39:58,740 --> 02:40:01,830
going to find that zero. That's
the So you're

2674
02:40:02,430 --> 02:40:05,790
telling me you're telling me
that all these banks, all these

2675
02:40:05,820 --> 02:40:10,140
electronic systems all come come
into into the Federal Reserve, I

2676
02:40:10,140 --> 02:40:14,970
guess. And or the Treasury?
Where is it? Is it both? And

2677
02:40:14,970 --> 02:40:17,820
there's so at the end of the
day, there's a guy there with a

2678
02:40:17,820 --> 02:40:21,720
green visor and says, yep, equal
numbers on both sides, boss good

2679
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:26,100
deals. Yeah. You can't answer. I
know you can't. Because I

2680
02:40:26,100 --> 02:40:29,010
know I don't know if guys, if I
knew how the whole thing

2681
02:40:29,010 --> 02:40:32,310
actually worked. That's why I
think how it idealistically

2682
02:40:32,310 --> 02:40:34,650
works. I don't know what's
really going on. Because I don't

2683
02:40:34,650 --> 02:40:40,140
know who does. But it's not
they're not doing that. No, but

2684
02:40:40,170 --> 02:40:42,210
what's not just drawing money
away.

2685
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:46,710
But what's interesting is, and
this kind of calls back to the

2686
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:51,480
beginning of the show, the way
it's spoken about is the Feds

2687
02:40:51,480 --> 02:40:57,420
discount window. You know, like,
like the like, like, Jamie Dimon

2688
02:40:57,420 --> 02:41:02,910
is driving his his Lexus, up to
the Federal Reserve rolls down

2689
02:41:02,910 --> 02:41:07,680
the window. Hey, got any money
for me? And then like a big bag

2690
02:41:07,680 --> 02:41:11,250
is handed out? Isn't that the
way to make it? Yeah, why

2691
02:41:11,250 --> 02:41:13,470
not? You mentioned that sounds a
little like that, because

2692
02:41:13,470 --> 02:41:15,150
there's a window involved,

2693
02:41:15,180 --> 02:41:18,240
or the Federal Reserve is
printing money. Oh, they're not.

2694
02:41:18,540 --> 02:41:23,010
Now they're not printing money.
So I was just curious in the big

2695
02:41:23,010 --> 02:41:23,670
system.

2696
02:41:24,480 --> 02:41:26,640
I mean, it's something that we
should probably try to

2697
02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:30,720
understand a little better than
we do. And I don't think maybe

2698
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:33,480
there's somebody out there who's
got a deep understanding that

2699
02:41:33,480 --> 02:41:36,450
could just sit, sit us down and
lecture us for a couple of hours

2700
02:41:36,450 --> 02:41:39,750
or draw some stuff on a
whiteboard and show us how this

2701
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:42,150
works. But yeah, no, we don't
know.

2702
02:41:42,150 --> 02:41:45,120
Wouldn't Wouldn't it be funny if
everyone let's just presume

2703
02:41:45,120 --> 02:41:48,690
everyone has a system? We trust
it? We trust? So everyone's in

2704
02:41:48,690 --> 02:41:52,860
on the game. And then everyone's
like, look at that asshole,

2705
02:41:52,860 --> 02:41:57,450
Jamie Dimon to people are gonna
find out man stop, stop putting

2706
02:41:57,450 --> 02:42:01,080
zeros behind everything. Stop
sending the emails with the big

2707
02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:03,690
zeros because people are gonna
find out it's just fake.

2708
02:42:06,600 --> 02:42:08,940
It's well, it's fake. It seems
to be working.

2709
02:42:09,060 --> 02:42:12,390
It used to be backed by gold. I
understand. And you could say

2710
02:42:12,390 --> 02:42:14,970
How much gold do you have? Well,
this is how much gold I have

2711
02:42:14,970 --> 02:42:18,450
there for you have this much
money kind of more or less that

2712
02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:22,680
one away? has been gone for a
long time. So I just question I

2713
02:42:22,680 --> 02:42:27,720
just wonder. Yeah, I mean, it's
uh, I always get these offers.

2714
02:42:27,990 --> 02:42:34,380
If you this cracks me up by the
way. Chase sends me an offer. If

2715
02:42:34,380 --> 02:42:40,800
I put $15,000 in new money into
an account presumably that I

2716
02:42:40,800 --> 02:42:46,290
have in my mattress? They will
give me a check for $175 Right.

2717
02:42:46,890 --> 02:42:50,520
And and so the first thing is
like who do you think I am? What

2718
02:42:50,520 --> 02:42:54,660
marketing genius told you that I
have $15,000 laying around the

2719
02:42:54,660 --> 02:43:01,170
house because I send this offer
all the time. And to tell if

2720
02:43:01,170 --> 02:43:03,600
they're going to add that to
their computer where does it get

2721
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:04,560
subtracted from

2722
02:43:05,820 --> 02:43:09,150
it's just part of their their
normal expenses as an expense

2723
02:43:09,150 --> 02:43:14,100
probably. Like any other
bookkeeping is done in any

2724
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:18,150
company. You put your 15,000 in
their bank and they give you in

2725
02:43:18,150 --> 02:43:21,480
a pull they have this marketing
budget and they give you 175 Not

2726
02:43:21,480 --> 02:43:25,980
oh no I'm sorry. Not that so the
15,000 It came from somewhere

2727
02:43:26,490 --> 02:43:28,290
yeah, your other bank account so

2728
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:32,970
yeah, but to that bank account
is going to where do they report

2729
02:43:32,970 --> 02:43:36,300
this in? Hey, we got his 15 Hey,
we lost his 15 Where does it get

2730
02:43:36,300 --> 02:43:41,430
reported into? You understand my
question? Yeah, the

2731
02:43:41,640 --> 02:43:45,930
electronic funds system is the
electronic funds system okay,

2732
02:43:46,170 --> 02:43:48,420
generally speaking, they're
gonna give you a check and then

2733
02:43:48,420 --> 02:43:50,100
you're going to take the check
over there you're not gonna it's

2734
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:56,400
not gonna go over EFT? Can I
walk to one bank and do it by

2735
02:43:56,400 --> 02:43:58,980
hand you're gonna get a check
for the money you could cash the

2736
02:43:58,980 --> 02:44:01,200
check and take cash over to
them.

2737
02:44:01,289 --> 02:44:05,039
I'm just I'm just wondering if
someone's really tracking all

2738
02:44:05,039 --> 02:44:07,469
this stuff. That's all I have a
feeling that's not true. They

2739
02:44:07,469 --> 02:44:09,779
are I have a feeling is not
being tracked. And it's a big

2740
02:44:09,779 --> 02:44:11,159
joke and we're not in on it.

2741
02:44:11,250 --> 02:44:13,590
Well, it would be nice if it was
a big Joker, we'd get a few

2742
02:44:13,590 --> 02:44:15,900
zeros added to our accounts, but
that's not I don't see any

2743
02:44:15,900 --> 02:44:20,430
evidence that it is. And if if
it's happening, we're definitely

2744
02:44:20,430 --> 02:44:23,910
not in on it. Let's go back to
Fukushima.

2745
02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:27,150
Really, well, you weren't done.

2746
02:44:27,839 --> 02:44:30,479
No, I gotta do different stuff.
There's a different report just

2747
02:44:30,479 --> 02:44:34,199
came from the sorry, this is not
an AMI watch. This is about this

2748
02:44:34,199 --> 02:44:36,989
is just an interesting human
interest or pig interest, I

2749
02:44:36,989 --> 02:44:41,639
guess. Thing about what's going
on with the high bred pigs in

2750
02:44:41,639 --> 02:44:42,599
Fukushima.

2751
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:50,250
Next, radiation tainted soil
buildings left exposed to the

2752
02:44:50,250 --> 02:44:53,490
elements. areas within the
evacuation zone of Japan's

2753
02:44:53,490 --> 02:44:56,820
Fukushima Prefecture face
countless challenges in trying

2754
02:44:56,820 --> 02:45:00,510
to reestablish themselves.
People who lived in places where

2755
02:45:00,510 --> 02:45:04,140
the contamination is relatively
low are hoping to return within

2756
02:45:04,140 --> 02:45:08,670
a few years. But they now face
another impediment. While

2757
02:45:08,670 --> 02:45:13,680
they've been gone hybrids of
wild boars and have been moving

2758
02:45:13,710 --> 02:45:14,130
in.

2759
02:45:16,500 --> 02:45:19,860
former residents of Tomioka have
been cleared to spend the

2760
02:45:19,860 --> 02:45:24,360
daylight hours in their town.
But they've got company a wait

2761
02:45:24,360 --> 02:45:27,630
a minute, this this guy is in
the read this is not a news gig.

2762
02:45:27,690 --> 02:45:32,490
He's doing the he's doing like
the the documentary for like the

2763
02:45:32,490 --> 02:45:33,750
Sesame Street News.

2764
02:45:34,860 --> 02:45:37,230
And they've got company.

2765
02:45:40,740 --> 02:45:47,490
Hybrid pigs roam freely
throughout the area. Unlike wild

2766
02:45:47,490 --> 02:45:51,390
boars, they are not weary of
humans. They don't run away even

2767
02:45:51,390 --> 02:45:55,650
if people approach them. That
also means they're not shy about

2768
02:45:55,650 --> 02:46:01,410
making themselves at home. I'm
here to tell you this man has

2769
02:46:01,410 --> 02:46:04,380
been returning to his home from
time to time in hopes of

2770
02:46:04,380 --> 02:46:09,450
eventually moving back
permanently. One day he found

2771
02:46:09,450 --> 02:46:17,130
his house had turned into a
pigsty closed the doors but they

2772
02:46:17,130 --> 02:46:24,540
opened them and walk around with
muddy feet. The pigs ate all the

2773
02:46:24,540 --> 02:46:29,070
sugar and salt he had stored on
his porch. They didn't stop

2774
02:46:29,070 --> 02:46:33,600
there, or anything else that was
edible. They got to including

2775
02:46:33,690 --> 02:46:39,900
cooking oil. It's wild boars do
not enter homes. They hate the

2776
02:46:39,900 --> 02:46:43,530
smell of human hybrid pigs are
different. Our smell makes them

2777
02:46:43,530 --> 02:46:43,980
happy.

2778
02:46:45,030 --> 02:46:48,030
I can't get it. I can't get one
voice over commercial yet this

2779
02:46:48,030 --> 02:46:49,230
guy is doing this gig.

2780
02:46:51,630 --> 02:46:55,680
The hybrid pigs human smell
makes them happy. If you want

2781
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:58,200
just a little background a
little short bit here's the

2782
02:46:58,200 --> 02:47:01,290
hybrid pig Story number two,
which is give some people some

2783
02:47:01,290 --> 02:47:03,600
feeling about what's going on
with these pigs.

2784
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:09,330
In Japan, hybrid pigs are raised
for meat. They are the offspring

2785
02:47:09,330 --> 02:47:14,910
of male wild boars and female
domestic pigs. We their meat is

2786
02:47:14,910 --> 02:47:18,390
said to be less fatty than that
of ordinary pigs and to smell

2787
02:47:18,390 --> 02:47:25,320
less. Like wild boars the
hybrids have ravenous appetites,

2788
02:47:25,560 --> 02:47:29,520
they eat all types of food
including plants and meat. But

2789
02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:34,590
on the other hand, they resemble
domestic pigs and their lack of

2790
02:47:34,590 --> 02:47:38,880
fear of humans. So they're not
shy about breaking and entering

2791
02:47:38,910 --> 02:47:39,900
human a vote

2792
02:47:45,180 --> 02:47:48,960
even as humans are required to
stay away for the most part the

2793
02:47:48,960 --> 02:47:52,800
hybrid animal population is
multiply I don't

2794
02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:56,370
understand this our smell makes
them happy business what is

2795
02:47:56,370 --> 02:47:57,270
going on with that? I

2796
02:47:57,270 --> 02:48:00,450
have no idea what that's all
about. I really don't understand

2797
02:48:00,450 --> 02:48:04,200
he's just the other thing. If
this was happening here, we just

2798
02:48:04,200 --> 02:48:08,130
shoot the thing. Yeah. But no,
they can't shoot anything. They

2799
02:48:08,130 --> 02:48:10,560
don't even got a bow and arrow I
mean it's like that the whole

2800
02:48:11,190 --> 02:48:14,490
one guy's house has been ruined
by these pigs and he can't do

2801
02:48:14,490 --> 02:48:17,910
shit about it he can't get him
to leave them can't kick them

2802
02:48:18,780 --> 02:48:26,220
you know I've been saving this
clip for maybe a week and a half

2803
02:48:26,430 --> 02:48:30,690
and it ties into your your
Fukushima reporting. This is

2804
02:48:30,690 --> 02:48:36,330
from World Radio Japan news. I
love listening to other

2805
02:48:36,330 --> 02:48:39,960
countries world news because
firstly, it's in English but

2806
02:48:39,960 --> 02:48:41,760
then you do get some local
reporting. You know there's some

2807
02:48:41,760 --> 02:48:45,510
propaganda in there. But this
may explain I don't if it

2808
02:48:45,510 --> 02:48:50,280
explains the hybrid pigs. But it
may explain Amy going into try

2809
02:48:50,280 --> 02:48:52,740
and wreak havoc and make
everybody afraid

2810
02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:56,190
Japan's government has approved
a 10 year business plan from

2811
02:48:56,190 --> 02:48:59,580
Tokyo Electric Power Company
that relies on restarting

2812
02:48:59,580 --> 02:49:03,120
nuclear reactors to turn its
business around you say

2813
02:49:03,930 --> 02:49:08,670
we can't have that we gotta get
our gas over there people we

2814
02:49:08,670 --> 02:49:10,440
can't have that we can't have
interesting

2815
02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:14,430
report on star we know from
experts at two of the reactors

2816
02:49:14,430 --> 02:49:16,620
are fine. While here we go
Industry Minister

2817
02:49:16,620 --> 02:49:20,370
Toshimitsu Motegi on Wednesday
gave approval of the plan to

2818
02:49:20,370 --> 02:49:24,420
TEPCO precedent now me Hilsa
lien utility was effectively put

2819
02:49:24,420 --> 02:49:29,100
under state control after the
2011 nuclear crisis. And it's

2820
02:49:29,130 --> 02:49:30,870
because Shema Daiichi plant,

2821
02:49:31,019 --> 02:49:33,659
and we're not pronouncing right
to humour datasheet that you're

2822
02:49:33,659 --> 02:49:37,019
not pronouncing it right Shima.
Try it Shima.

2823
02:49:39,270 --> 02:49:41,640
The chairman of the steering
committee for the state bank

2824
02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:45,960
fund for nuclear accident
compensation, Akio Hanada, was

2825
02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:50,220
also present. Under the plan
TEPCO hopes to begin restarting

2826
02:49:50,220 --> 02:49:54,570
reactors in stages. And it's
Kashiwazaki kuti well planned in

2827
02:49:54,570 --> 02:49:59,220
Niigata Prefecture from July.
The utility envisions earning an

2828
02:49:59,220 --> 02:50:05,130
annual preach Tax profit of
between $950,000,001.4 billion

2829
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:09,810
by resuming nuclear power
generation and rebuilding ageing

2830
02:50:09,810 --> 02:50:13,620
thermal power plants. The
utility says it will then

2831
02:50:13,620 --> 02:50:18,660
gradually lower electricity fees
by up to $9.6 billion annually.

2832
02:50:18,900 --> 02:50:23,160
Over the following decade, the
firm plans to set aside $19

2833
02:50:23,160 --> 02:50:27,390
billion to create a task force
to deal with contaminated water

2834
02:50:27,390 --> 02:50:32,130
and to dismantle reactors at the
Fukushima plant. The business

2835
02:50:32,130 --> 02:50:36,570
plan also says profits from
sales of TEPCO shares held by a

2836
02:50:36,600 --> 02:50:41,070
state backed compensation fund
will be used for decontamination

2837
02:50:41,070 --> 02:50:45,480
efforts. But utility plans to
close all 10 of its branches in

2838
02:50:45,480 --> 02:50:50,040
its service area, and to reduce
its group workforce by 2000

2839
02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:54,540
employees. Tepco says these
efforts will cut costs by about

2840
02:50:54,630 --> 02:50:59,970
$46 billion helping the company
become a competitive business

2841
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:02,010
competitive against our gas.

2842
02:51:02,850 --> 02:51:06,810
Yeah, that's a great report. I
didn't know that that Yeah,

2843
02:51:06,840 --> 02:51:07,410
Mike. Well,

2844
02:51:07,440 --> 02:51:13,200
it's an okay report because wow,
how boring do they make radio

2845
02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:13,770
over there?

2846
02:51:15,780 --> 02:51:18,360
That's really Yeah, I couldn't
be any dollar. That's true. It's

2847
02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:21,930
pretty bad. I got a book do you
still write from MarketWatch?

2848
02:51:23,430 --> 02:51:25,560
No, I stopped writing from
MarketWatch they changed all

2849
02:51:25,560 --> 02:51:27,780
everybody laughed all the good
editors. And they Oh, yeah.

2850
02:51:27,810 --> 02:51:30,150
Okay, left some nut balls in
there. And they got

2851
02:51:30,720 --> 02:51:33,060
off. What's this Business
Insider publication? Are you

2852
02:51:33,060 --> 02:51:34,440
familiar with the Business
Insider? Yeah,

2853
02:51:34,440 --> 02:51:38,580
that's what's his name? His
operation? Who does that? You

2854
02:51:38,580 --> 02:51:42,480
know, that guy. Oh, that guy. I
don't keep it No, no, I can't

2855
02:51:42,480 --> 02:51:43,650
remember here. I didn't get his
name.

2856
02:51:44,400 --> 02:51:46,890
Business in it. I liked the
name, by the way, I think I

2857
02:51:46,890 --> 02:51:47,490
think it's a good

2858
02:51:47,520 --> 02:51:53,850
guy. He's very well, very well.
A good name. It's well executed.

2859
02:51:53,850 --> 02:51:54,810
Let's put it that way.

2860
02:51:55,410 --> 02:52:01,290
Okay. So here's this. This is, I
just want to point out how some

2861
02:52:01,290 --> 02:52:05,790
things work sometimes to this
important because it says Sunday

2862
02:52:05,790 --> 02:52:08,040
and this you know, there's a lot
of technology news and stuff and

2863
02:52:08,040 --> 02:52:12,060
I want to just show people how
this works. So I get a lot of

2864
02:52:12,060 --> 02:52:15,240
emails from people with the
following headline. Hackers have

2865
02:52:15,240 --> 02:52:22,020
used the refrigerator. And, and
these hackers apparently have

2866
02:52:22,020 --> 02:52:27,480
users and Ars Technica,
everyone's reporting this when

2867
02:52:27,480 --> 02:52:32,970
the and it happened between
December 23, January 6, and I'm

2868
02:52:32,970 --> 02:52:36,180
like, what, what is going on?
You know, where can I find out

2869
02:52:36,180 --> 02:52:40,080
more about this? I did what we
call journalism, which is

2870
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:44,070
basically just looked at looked
into it. Yeah. And so it comes

2871
02:52:44,070 --> 02:52:51,540
from a GI okay. The hairball. It
comes from a press release,

2872
02:52:52,260 --> 02:53:00,000
which is posted on MarketWatch
from the company Proofpoint Inc.

2873
02:53:00,690 --> 02:53:04,650
to not hear it now. So here we
have business insider.com, Ars

2874
02:53:04,650 --> 02:53:08,430
Technica, all talking about
this, oh, it's the Internet of

2875
02:53:08,430 --> 02:53:11,820
Things, the Internet of Things
is attacking you the internet of

2876
02:53:11,820 --> 02:53:17,520
things. And you go look at these
guys proofpoint.com who

2877
02:53:17,520 --> 02:53:22,890
essentially sell some kind of
secure email products. And so

2878
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:27,360
Proofpoint research Internet of
Things, IoT cyber attack

2879
02:53:27,360 --> 02:53:31,890
security. In January 2014,
Proofpoint researchers

2880
02:53:31,890 --> 02:53:34,500
discovered proof of a much
theorised but never before seen

2881
02:53:34,530 --> 02:53:38,910
Internet of Things cyber attack.
Proofpoint has observed that we

2882
02:53:38,910 --> 02:53:42,300
believe to be an industry first
of devices, including some home

2883
02:53:42,300 --> 02:53:45,480
appliances, TVs, and a
refrigerator sending malicious

2884
02:53:45,510 --> 02:53:50,430
email spam. And they go on to
they have nothing they don't

2885
02:53:50,430 --> 02:53:54,900
even have a one page. They don't
have a report. They don't have a

2886
02:53:54,900 --> 02:53:59,340
white paper. all they've got is
links to their product, which is

2887
02:53:59,340 --> 02:54:04,680
the proof point, next generation
email product. And they're

2888
02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:09,840
claiming that A more detailed
examination suggested While a

2889
02:54:09,840 --> 02:54:14,580
majority of mail was initiated
by expected Internet of Things

2890
02:54:14,610 --> 02:54:19,830
devices IoT, such as compromise
home networking devices, routers

2891
02:54:19,830 --> 02:54:21,120
and network

2892
02:54:21,150 --> 02:54:24,420
you're telling me this ran as a
press release on Market Watch.

2893
02:54:24,540 --> 02:54:29,550
Yes. And this bullcrap story ran
on MarketWatch just a straight

2894
02:54:29,550 --> 02:54:30,870
up press release on edited

2895
02:54:30,900 --> 02:54:35,850
Yes. Wow. Yes. And it was but it
was worse. It's picked up by Ars

2896
02:54:35,850 --> 02:54:41,220
Technica, which is the Bible for
most technology shows as oh my

2897
02:54:41,220 --> 02:54:46,590
god, the Internet of Things is
being attacked. And they had

2898
02:54:46,620 --> 02:54:49,890
nothing they just they have
nothing all they it's just a

2899
02:54:49,890 --> 02:54:55,140
press release. And they have no
report. They have no evidence no

2900
02:54:55,170 --> 02:54:57,660
no paper on their research.
They're just saying we did

2901
02:54:57,660 --> 02:55:00,330
research. Here's what we
discovered nothing thing.

2902
02:55:01,920 --> 02:55:05,520
Proof said they didn't even show
anything. Nothing. It wasn't

2903
02:55:05,520 --> 02:55:07,050
even a PowerPoint deck,

2904
02:55:07,170 --> 02:55:11,550
but no. And then here at the
bottom of their page, Proofpoint

2905
02:55:11,550 --> 02:55:14,850
targeted attack protection
trademark represents the

2906
02:55:14,850 --> 02:55:18,420
industry's first comprehensive
solution for combating targeted

2907
02:55:18,420 --> 02:55:22,200
threats using a full lifecycle
approach, monitoring suspicious

2908
02:55:22,200 --> 02:55:25,680
messages as they come in and
observing user clicks as they

2909
02:55:25,680 --> 02:55:29,850
attempt to reach out by using
big data analysis techniques and

2910
02:55:29,850 --> 02:55:32,700
the cloud architecture.
Proofpoint can identify oh my

2911
02:55:32,700 --> 02:55:35,190
god, I could have written this
Proofpoint can identify

2912
02:55:35,190 --> 02:55:37,890
suspicious messages, even if
that message is something

2913
02:55:37,890 --> 02:55:41,850
like this. And some other thing
recently in one of the shows

2914
02:55:42,360 --> 02:55:45,720
another crock of crap. I think
it was on the Business Insider.

2915
02:55:46,530 --> 02:55:48,330
It sounds like the same guy
wrote it

2916
02:55:49,980 --> 02:55:51,870
doesn't have a there's no name
on this. I

2917
02:55:51,870 --> 02:55:54,090
don't know. No, no. Press
releases never have a name

2918
02:55:54,090 --> 02:55:56,670
except they've put some contact
name.

2919
02:55:57,060 --> 02:56:00,090
I what I would like everyone to
do a lot of people. We have a

2920
02:56:00,090 --> 02:56:03,390
lot of sis admins, a lot of
people listen to this stuff. Pay

2921
02:56:03,390 --> 02:56:06,960
attention to how the story is
going to the refrigerator that

2922
02:56:06,960 --> 02:56:10,110
attacked Okay, the Internet of
Things, Attack of the

2923
02:56:10,110 --> 02:56:12,900
refrigerator and put it in the
Red Book, I guarantee you a

2924
02:56:12,900 --> 02:56:18,690
senator or a congressman will
use this story for some bullshit

2925
02:56:18,690 --> 02:56:23,550
legislation. And this is the
Genesis red book. And then a new

2926
02:56:23,550 --> 02:56:24,360
Red Book beautiful,

2927
02:56:24,570 --> 02:56:28,980
beautiful, actually led. I hate
to say this leather bound. It's

2928
02:56:28,980 --> 02:56:31,980
leather bound, but it's made out
of black leather. So I have to

2929
02:56:31,980 --> 02:56:33,780
just it's just called the Red
Book now.

2930
02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:36,780
It's not actually it's not
actually red anymore. It's not

2931
02:56:36,780 --> 02:56:37,590
very official.

2932
02:56:37,710 --> 02:56:39,060
It's like one hour cleaners.

2933
02:56:40,200 --> 02:56:45,870
So I did want to just say we
have a sysadmin who emailed us

2934
02:56:46,560 --> 02:56:50,130
and he says oh, I'm a sysadmin I
just want you to understand what

2935
02:56:50,130 --> 02:56:54,300
a lot of this is coming down to
when it comes to the target

2936
02:56:54,300 --> 02:56:57,720
credit hack. All the all this
cyber crap he says follow the

2937
02:56:57,720 --> 02:57:02,280
money. This is the it's called
PCI DSS did you get this email?

2938
02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:08,850
No, what's it called again? PCI
DSS Payment Card Industry Data

2939
02:57:08,850 --> 02:57:12,990
Security Standard. Okay, this is
what it comes down to gents in

2940
02:57:12,990 --> 02:57:16,980
the morning, longtime listener
here in East Texas. It's a

2941
02:57:16,980 --> 02:57:19,260
little hard to hit people in the
mouth and he's Texas, the two

2942
02:57:19,260 --> 02:57:21,990
strongly in the Republican camp
the change but I do what I can.

2943
02:57:22,560 --> 02:57:26,040
I wanted it comes as no surprise
to see the target game as an

2944
02:57:26,040 --> 02:57:31,260
industry move to impose PCI DSS
you will be forced to comply

2945
02:57:31,260 --> 02:57:33,840
with this which you don't have
to at the moment but just watch

2946
02:57:33,870 --> 02:57:38,580
now he explains what happened to
he has a a group that does some

2947
02:57:38,610 --> 02:57:41,790
camping things think it's a
church group. He says here's

2948
02:57:41,790 --> 02:57:48,300
what happened to us in order to
even get a payment processor,

2949
02:57:48,900 --> 02:57:53,220
and that PCI DSS is it's
basically run by the payment

2950
02:57:53,220 --> 02:57:56,070
processors but the banks and the
credit card companies, so they

2951
02:57:56,070 --> 02:57:58,830
hit you per transaction to
maximise the hurt I work at this

2952
02:57:58,860 --> 02:58:02,580
company is Texas, we're going
through PCI compliance. Here's

2953
02:58:02,580 --> 02:58:05,670
how the money is made. It costs
us 15,000 To have a guy fly out

2954
02:58:05,670 --> 02:58:08,880
to tell us what we needed to do.
Then they run a pen test to pick

2955
02:58:08,880 --> 02:58:11,820
apart your firewall, the whole
thing is set up so they can push

2956
02:58:11,820 --> 02:58:15,240
you to their vendor partners to
fill in the gaps cost us 10,000

2957
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:18,210
To get PCI compliant card
readers that encrypt the pan

2958
02:58:18,210 --> 02:58:21,720
data at the point of swiping the
card readers only work with

2959
02:58:21,720 --> 02:58:24,660
certain processors so we had to
get a new processor to use them.

2960
02:58:24,930 --> 02:58:27,420
Their logging and reporting
tools that set us back another

2961
02:58:27,420 --> 02:58:30,960
45,000 Then firewall and
switching upgrades at his for

2962
02:58:30,960 --> 02:58:34,530
another 20,000. And now we have
endless documentation to keep up

2963
02:58:34,530 --> 02:58:37,230
the ridiculous policies that we
have to adhere though it here

2964
02:58:37,230 --> 02:58:41,040
too. Then we get to do the gap
assessment and pen test every

2965
02:58:41,040 --> 02:58:44,220
year. It only gets worse as you
take in more money and the

2966
02:58:44,220 --> 02:58:47,490
number of transactions go up. I
believe they see the money to be

2967
02:58:47,490 --> 02:58:51,600
made and want to make PCI
mandatory by law. There are

2968
02:58:51,600 --> 02:58:54,300
major companies that just pay
the fines because the fines are

2969
02:58:54,300 --> 02:58:58,410
cheaper than the cost of
becoming compliant. And if you

2970
02:58:58,620 --> 02:59:04,320
look at the PCI DSS organisation
website, which is PCI security

2971
02:59:04,320 --> 02:59:09,150
standards.org. It tells you why
you should comply with PCI

2972
02:59:09,150 --> 02:59:12,360
Security Standards. But let's
just look at what happens if you

2973
02:59:12,360 --> 02:59:15,990
are not compliant. If you are
not compliant, it could be

2974
02:59:15,990 --> 02:59:20,340
disastrous. possible negative
consequences also include

2975
02:59:20,340 --> 02:59:23,280
lawsuits insurance claims
cancelled accounts, payment card

2976
02:59:23,310 --> 02:59:30,000
issuer fines and government
fines. So this is this is it PCI

2977
02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:31,200
DSS

2978
02:59:31,680 --> 02:59:34,740
Ah, it is a great fine you can
use this will follow this

2979
02:59:34,740 --> 02:59:37,410
closely. I think you're dead on
it's one of these things you

2980
02:59:37,410 --> 02:59:40,410
create. I've seen this. This is
a type of marketing by the way.

2981
02:59:40,410 --> 02:59:46,170
The way it works is that if you
create a product that would

2982
02:59:46,170 --> 02:59:52,140
include information that would
keep you out of trouble and you

2983
02:59:52,140 --> 02:59:56,820
don't use the product and you
get in trouble. The people

2984
02:59:56,850 --> 02:59:59,160
putting you in trouble. In other
words, if people suing you will

2985
02:59:59,190 --> 03:00:04,470
point to your or product and ask
them why they're not using that.

2986
03:00:05,310 --> 03:00:10,950
It's actually reminds it this
was some accounting stuff. He

2987
03:00:10,950 --> 03:00:15,360
created a disc that had all the
accounting suits or something,

2988
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:18,540
some crazy budget data. And he
realised that what he'd had it

2989
03:00:18,540 --> 03:00:21,780
was a marketing guy that was one
of the greatest I've ever met.

2990
03:00:22,200 --> 03:00:26,100
He said that once this thing was
finished, you had to buy it.

2991
03:00:26,400 --> 03:00:29,400
Because if you didn't have it,
you would get sued, because

2992
03:00:29,520 --> 03:00:33,540
you're not having it. Exactly.
And that's what the sounds like.

2993
03:00:33,540 --> 03:00:35,790
This sounds like the exact same
scheme.

2994
03:00:35,850 --> 03:00:39,090
Well, I think our producer, our
sysadmin producer, who I

2995
03:00:39,090 --> 03:00:42,570
specifically left his name and
his organisation out, he's the

2996
03:00:42,570 --> 03:00:46,920
one that turned me on to the PCI
DSS I put like, 567 links in the

2997
03:00:46,920 --> 03:00:51,600
show notes. So you can read up
on it, but it seems like a like

2998
03:00:51,600 --> 03:00:54,720
a shoo in. Seems like you know,
let's just listen money. He's

2999
03:00:54,720 --> 03:00:56,160
got the little little church
group

3000
03:00:56,160 --> 03:00:59,940
some way to invest in anything
having to do with this PCI DSS.

3001
03:00:59,940 --> 03:01:00,120
Well

3002
03:01:00,390 --> 03:01:01,590
ask it Horowitz.

3003
03:01:01,980 --> 03:01:04,470
I'm going to now put him on that
track. We'll probably have a

3004
03:01:04,470 --> 03:01:07,230
couple good stock picks on the
next good, good, good, good.

3005
03:01:08,039 --> 03:01:10,739
I've been promising Turkey
stuff. I have one tooth, I have

3006
03:01:10,739 --> 03:01:14,399
like 15 links, I found a great
new resource, an online resource

3007
03:01:14,399 --> 03:01:17,219
for Turkey and Turkish
information. I'm having dinner

3008
03:01:17,219 --> 03:01:23,159
Monday with one of our producers
here whose way into this. Of

3009
03:01:23,159 --> 03:01:26,519
course, we have our producer who
speaks and reads Turkish and

3010
03:01:26,519 --> 03:01:28,919
he's so I'm really all over it.
But something changed, something

3011
03:01:28,919 --> 03:01:32,519
happened. So far, we kind of
have two theories, either one,

3012
03:01:32,999 --> 03:01:36,959
air two, one and the Gulen
Movement, are working together

3013
03:01:36,989 --> 03:01:41,429
to create some controversy so
that everyone can be certain of

3014
03:01:41,639 --> 03:01:48,269
reelection and clamping down or
we have the CIA and the American

3015
03:01:48,269 --> 03:01:51,869
intelligence agencies who are
protecting the the now

3016
03:01:51,869 --> 03:01:56,009
opposition to the Erdogan
government, and are doing what

3017
03:01:56,009 --> 03:02:01,019
we typically do which is create
a ruckus, have stuff explode,

3018
03:02:01,019 --> 03:02:03,839
people get angry protests in the
street and then you know, we got

3019
03:02:03,839 --> 03:02:07,889
to kick one guy out and bring
our guy in, which would probably

3020
03:02:07,889 --> 03:02:11,849
be a girl earnest, someone from
the Gulag camp. And something

3021
03:02:11,849 --> 03:02:16,079
new happened besides the the
Turkish Lira, hitting a new low

3022
03:02:16,079 --> 03:02:20,729
against the dollar. So the the
financial crisis is in place. We

3023
03:02:20,729 --> 03:02:23,819
wanted that and all of a sudden
we have people it's not reported

3024
03:02:23,819 --> 03:02:27,809
on you're not gonna see it on
CNN. Unless Justin Bieber is in

3025
03:02:27,929 --> 03:02:33,809
Turkey. There are no protests
against a quote, draconian

3026
03:02:33,839 --> 03:02:34,919
internet bill.

3027
03:02:36,000 --> 03:02:38,790
Oh, yeah, yeah, this is the big
news. That was on all the

3028
03:02:38,820 --> 03:02:40,170
alternative media.

3029
03:02:40,200 --> 03:02:45,810
So that means Turkish spring.
Yeah, seriously, think about it.

3030
03:02:46,650 --> 03:02:49,290
Yeah, that's exactly what you
want. You want people on the

3031
03:02:49,290 --> 03:02:53,880
street? Well, you can't do away
with internet freedoms. Oh, no,

3032
03:02:53,880 --> 03:02:56,700
that's and you know, what's the
what's the douchebag from NPR?

3033
03:02:57,420 --> 03:03:02,610
Who did the tweet Garvin and
Randy Karvan. Oh, I'm tweeting

3034
03:03:02,610 --> 03:03:05,670
with Turkey now and retweeting
turkey or they're trying to shut

3035
03:03:05,670 --> 03:03:09,600
down the internet. Well,
Facebook can't use Facebook. Oh,

3036
03:03:11,070 --> 03:03:13,020
yeah, there'll be an internet in
a box internet.

3037
03:03:13,260 --> 03:03:15,150
Internet in a box. What else?

3038
03:03:15,390 --> 03:03:17,970
We can just I guess it's
internet and a suitcase is what

3039
03:03:17,970 --> 03:03:18,990
they call it. Yeah. Well,

3040
03:03:19,170 --> 03:03:21,360
yeah. Internet in a suitcase.
We'll have we're gonna have some

3041
03:03:21,360 --> 03:03:26,160
superstar who's retweeted by
Randy Randy Randy Andy Carvin.

3042
03:03:26,760 --> 03:03:29,430
Yeah, no, you're right. It
sounds like it's a fractal.

3043
03:03:29,460 --> 03:03:32,580
Hold on a second. Hold on a
second. The fractal it's Yeah,

3044
03:03:32,580 --> 03:03:34,590
well, it's a big fractal. I
don't even know what we haven't

3045
03:03:34,590 --> 03:03:36,330
used the fractal thing and so
long I don't know what the

3046
03:03:36,330 --> 03:03:37,650
fractal jingle is.

3047
03:03:42,750 --> 03:03:45,090
Yeah, it sounded kind of like
that. I was also just going to

3048
03:03:45,090 --> 03:03:51,840
call Hey, CNN get pooper over to
Turkey. We'll do Anderson.

3049
03:03:52,050 --> 03:03:56,010
Anderson Cooper to Turkey
Anderson Cooper to Turkey. Get

3050
03:03:56,010 --> 03:04:01,800
on the square buddy. Get get
into Istanbul. Time to go Don't

3051
03:04:01,800 --> 03:04:04,320
Cross That River. They don't
like your kind on the other side

3052
03:04:04,320 --> 03:04:09,600
of the river son. You know, like
your card over there. Why am I

3053
03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:12,120
doing this southern accent when
I'm talking about homosexuals.

3054
03:04:13,290 --> 03:04:15,660
Getting a ticket slight Texas
accent sounds good.

3055
03:04:16,050 --> 03:04:18,870
I'm trying I'm really trying.
Let's just listen and you'll get

3056
03:04:18,870 --> 03:04:23,760
it. I can do my own or modify it
by talking through your teeth.

3057
03:04:24,390 --> 03:04:27,720
Alright, so don't listen to me
go. This is how we do it here in

3058
03:04:27,720 --> 03:04:32,790
Austin. In Austin. By the way,
the guys who were protesting the

3059
03:04:32,820 --> 03:04:36,840
during the hunger strike against
fluoridation of Austin's water.

3060
03:04:37,170 --> 03:04:38,130
Yeah, they're gone.

3061
03:04:39,060 --> 03:04:40,620
Oh, they got paid off finally.

3062
03:04:42,060 --> 03:04:44,400
They might have been I don't
know. They've just I thought

3063
03:04:44,400 --> 03:04:46,290
they were gonna go for at least
a month they said and they were

3064
03:04:46,590 --> 03:04:50,370
just gone. Day 14 gone. I don't
know. They I don't know if they

3065
03:04:50,370 --> 03:04:53,970
died of hunger. Or if they were
picked up or paid off. I don't

3066
03:04:53,970 --> 03:04:57,210
know. I don't know. Very

3067
03:04:57,210 --> 03:05:02,010
I have one final clip. All
right. kinda interesting. Just I

3068
03:05:02,010 --> 03:05:05,340
just because his little rant
involved all right. Play the

3069
03:05:05,340 --> 03:05:07,320
clip Egypt vote yes.

3070
03:05:08,130 --> 03:05:09,900
Egypt votes yes.

3071
03:05:12,179 --> 03:05:16,379
A resounding yes. 98% of voters
in Egypt give the thumbs up to

3072
03:05:16,379 --> 03:05:19,259
the country's new constitution
which will replace the charter

3073
03:05:19,289 --> 03:05:21,659
adopted under the house of the
President Mohamed Morsi.

3074
03:05:22,649 --> 03:05:25,559
Okay, just for all the people
out there live in places like

3075
03:05:25,559 --> 03:05:32,159
Egypt, there is no such thing as
98% vote yes. If everybody

3076
03:05:32,159 --> 03:05:37,979
agreed to it, more than 2% would
vote Gnosis out of some crackpot

3077
03:05:38,009 --> 03:05:43,169
idea. It's impossible. Every
time you hear 98% Vote yes, or

3078
03:05:43,169 --> 03:05:46,649
98%. Anything. It's that doesn't
mean all it means is that this

3079
03:05:46,649 --> 03:05:47,759
was a corrupt vote.

3080
03:05:48,359 --> 03:05:53,429
Well, I don't understand. 98% of
scientists agree on climate

3081
03:05:53,429 --> 03:05:55,049
change. Yes. Another

3082
03:05:55,050 --> 03:06:00,330
example. I mean, there's
impossible to put you can put 10

3083
03:06:00,330 --> 03:06:04,740
people is LSA 100 People that
all agree on something in a room

3084
03:06:04,740 --> 03:06:09,360
to vote on it. And numerous
members of that group will vote

3085
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:14,910
no. Just the way it is. And this
is the show. I just thought that

3086
03:06:14,910 --> 03:06:16,980
okay, this is going to be
interesting. So in other words,

3087
03:06:16,980 --> 03:06:19,890
you've taken over the place.
Anyway, got nothing. I got other

3088
03:06:19,890 --> 03:06:21,630
stuff we move into. I got out
there. So

3089
03:06:21,630 --> 03:06:24,870
I got some great agenda 21 stuff
for Thursday.

3090
03:06:27,390 --> 03:06:32,370
They're talking reunification in
Korea. Yeah. Not being reported

3091
03:06:32,370 --> 03:06:36,180
here. Interesting. Where's it
being reported? It's being

3092
03:06:36,180 --> 03:06:38,070
reported in South Korea.

3093
03:06:38,460 --> 03:06:48,240
Interesting. reunification.
Yeah. Or worst nightmare. Yeah.

3094
03:06:49,050 --> 03:06:52,110
All right, everybody. Well, we
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3095
03:06:52,110 --> 03:06:57,420
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3096
03:06:57,420 --> 03:07:03,660
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3098
03:07:07,560 --> 03:07:08,250
Elephone

3099
03:07:10,800 --> 03:07:13,980
I will get back on Thursday to
bring you more and keep it

3100
03:07:13,980 --> 03:07:16,410
coming everybody you guys are
not just support us financially,

3101
03:07:16,410 --> 03:07:19,290
but the information you give us
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3102
03:07:19,290 --> 03:07:21,330
lookout for the white paper in
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3103
03:07:21,330 --> 03:07:24,660
it as well about the Bogut IV,
soak the Western media

3104
03:07:24,660 --> 03:07:27,330
entertainment business law in
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3105
03:07:27,330 --> 03:07:30,090
FEMA Region six here in Austin,
Texas in the morning, everybody.

3106
03:07:30,090 --> 03:07:31,560
My name is Adam curry

3107
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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I am bingo today, but I'm

3108
03:07:35,100 --> 03:07:37,800
actually John C. Dvorak will
talk

3109
03:07:37,800 --> 03:07:40,890
to you again on Thursday right
here on no agenda.

3110
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The best time to vorak.org/n a