Well wait a minute, let me change my icon so I reflect to
you my sympathy with the Ukrainians. Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak. Thursday, January 30 2014. Time for your
donation media assassination episode 587. This is no agenda,
raising the bar on information inequality from FEMA Region six
here in the traverse high tide on Lawson tea house in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I asked the proverbial
question Would you pay $15.50 for a jumbo Gulf shrimp
cocktail? I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Lawton, Buzzkill.
I would not but I have in the past. Seems a little steep. It's
very steep. Where and was it? Gulf Coast trim? Is that what
you said?
Well, this is the oyster menu from the barn restaurant at the
Oyster Bar, Grand Central Station, one of the great places
to be quite good. Yeah.
But this is from December 18 2002. Wow. Because I
consistently because I have a lot of old menus here at the
house. Yes. As archiving?
You know, that will be a great book one day.
Well, would compare the prices I'm sure. 2014 is even higher,
just in general, I think it'd be an interesting book to look at
menus from the past. Yeah, menus from the past with John C.
Dvorak.
The problem with RK archiving a menu or two is that you, you end
up with just a mishmash like this? And it's nothing that it
doesn't really it's not like a good collection if I was if I
was a collector, I knew what I was doing I lectures Yes. From
guys who do this who collect menus, no feel that collect
anything that you do delight, you go to an antique and the
dealer and the some guy's got a great collection of some sort of
plastic?
John, John, you are a far cry from an antique dealer, my
friend.
I don't get I don't come here to be insulted. Yes, you do. So
anyway, the or no, so Anywho. The guy says, oh, yeah, no,
you're if you're gonna collect anything, you got to have a
complete collection as close to complete as possible and
everything has to be in mint condition. Otherwise, otherwise,
you're just fooling yourself. You're an idiot. So you know, I
don't have either one of those. I don't meet either criteria.
Well, idiot, you're not a complete idiot. And in fact,
neither of us are idiots. I don't want to say too much. But
how long had it not rained in California? A
about six months, and we shook
our rain sticks and what happened? It rained. I got I
must have at least 10 reports of rain. I have people sending me
satellite images of rain over Northern California.
We need more rain better kick them up again.
Let's do it again. And we got rainstick for California. We did
a little bit in Austin too, by the way, just a little bit.
To get rid of some of the cedar here. All right, there we go. I
have to say I'm at you know these rain sticks. They're not
going to be messed around with and luckily we are licenced rain
stick professionals. You know, they could go horribly
and made brain sticks Utah. from Utah. Yes.
We are licenced professionals and we know how to use them
obviously. Moreover, they work I'm using moreover now more
often.
Well, it's better than so. Oh, the president
use it again. In his speech in the State of the Union. He did
another moreover.
Yes, I know. I heard that. I was that guy. Maybe right. Soon as I
heard it as I thought the same thing. I'm sure you thought
there are a mess most of our listeners. Uh huh. There's using
they're using Microsoft Word.
Microsoft Word the Presidential edition.
Well, that speech was terrible.
You know, it's interesting, because of course, we watched
the we watched it, as we also watched the Grammys and Mickey
appropriately said she felt really gypped in both cases.
Isn't whenever we watch something that we're all excited
about on television, you always wind up feeling gypped at the
end?
Well the Grammys were particularly crappy.
I know what the what the problem was.
They did have the witch burning and stuff.
You know Katy Perry famously in an interview a few years ago
said that she had sold her her soul to the devil so moreover
obvious why she you know the called the called up Beelzebub
and had the dark horse of death and being at the Grand they're
losing their touch. And here's what's happening. This thing is
so integrated now with with the commercials. Everybody you know,
they perform and then there's a Cover Girl, come on. Our show oh
you know, pink is as a commercial and, and Taylor Swift
has a commercial and then there's Justin Timberlake with a
MasterCard Justin Timberlake had a MasterCard commercial and he
had two commercials. It's so integrated. It's just not fun
anymore. You can't get a good Illuminati sacrificing because
of the commercials are in the way. And by the way, this Katy
Perry thing this was a the the even the devil is commercialised
because this thing was a pre promotion of the new Disney
movie with Angelina Jolie exact same big trees
of blood on her.
And then of course we had my favourite part was the magic
number showed up. We had the magic number, we had the 33
couples in a mass wedding. I
know everybody tweeted about that.
I have to say I was really emotional at that point because
they had just had the dead segment before that. And I don't
know if you've had this January.
There's a lot of I don't know, I get the sense there's a lot of
people left off the dead segment.
Well, here's what happened. Polly Anthony shows up on the
dead list. And Polly Anthony was one of the probably the only big
major record label female executives and I knew her quite
well from my New York radio days. And I mean just with a
name like Polly Anthony right there you know you're cool. And
she was kind of MILFy kind of hot. But she was always she was
the girl executive who really was at every single show make
sure you made sure that you know she she she really played the
industry very well and I had no idea she had died and she's only
59 You know pancreatic cancer some bullshit like that. And it
really shocked me I don't I don't know when you had your
first deadlifts maybe you haven't had it but I presume
that a certain point you get to an age I'm now there's my 50th
year anyways yeah okay, so I know the Phil Everly dies and
you know some other people you know, it's some people I've met
or I've interviewed, then you get someone who you really know
kind of from a personal level. And this was the first time I
just went oh man, this blows if you ever had that when you see
the dead segment,
I always says see somebody that is well there's two things I get
two reactions one is ah, I didn't that's too bad and you
know then you look them up and find their ad and it's not that
right. And then the other one is the other one is I and this is
the reaction I normally get and then when you get older you'll
get this one too a lot. Wow, I thought they were dead yeah
that's okay. I don't have that just yet. Might so my first
reaction was oh man Polly died. This is horrible. I didn't know
and it turns out she died at the end of September. And I just
never knew and so now I feel shitty. I didn't send anything
you know when my daughter was born Polly Anthony sent flowers
I mean this is kind of you know, there was a level of industry
friendship. Then the second reaction as I turned to Mickey I
said if I die before you i You will not let the if I'm on a
dead segment I want my own full frame I don't want to share with
two other people I wish that sucks
to I want to do that with the with the movie and TV industry.
I want a full frame and I and I want you to hear my voice.
Yeah, you're gonna get it.
I want a little a little audio track you'll be lucky
to get on
Man oh man. How bad is that he was good to other people.
Screw it. I actually had when I started rapping. I wanted to see
who these people were and they were moving them so fast that
you couldn't read the next frame very hard. I thought this show
is terrible. And the 33 mean comes up in that show that it
also comes up in the in the presidential speech.
But wait wait before you go there. It was incredibly lame
and does kind of tie into something we'll talk about later
about Russia. Is this is the CBS CBS I can't do it. CBS No, we
got CBS network. And they pretend like they're all going
to show something but the minute these 33 couples are going to
see all their love with a kiss which would include men on men
and women on women and kisses.
They cut away I saw a couple kisses
No you did not see any gay kisses there's no way it's not
true. There may be in you think you saw it but you didn't see
it. And and and I would like to remind everybody that this is
the network that was fined $200,000 for showing Janet
Jackson's nipple to children.
That was ABC.
No, it was the Super Bowl. We'll see. I'm pretty sure it was a
CBS Super Bowl. Maybe it was ABC. I thought it was genius. I
look it up. Anyway, yeah, it was the the the Grammys what's Ken
Ehrlich? Now I've worked with Ken Ehrlich. He's the director.
He's the writer. He's the producer. He's a dick. We've
talked about him before. He's an old four year we talk about it.
He's old fashioned. Give it to the Ryan Seacrest, give it to
some new girls but
totally kick ass
give it to some new guy who's gonna next Dick Clark well, he
they better give this to why he hasn't ABC kind of affiliation.
I think that he does with de Klerk stuff. But they but the
Grammys should totally give this to somebody young and hip and
get it away from Ken Ehrlich. I'm gonna retire. Anyway. Okay,
so there was the Jeep about all that. I was gonna give you that
Disney movie, and the songs all sucked Malik Malik. Maleficent.
Is that if what a stupid title. That's the new Disney movie with
Angelina Jolie? Maleficent. Yeah. What does that mean?
Maleficent?
Like, yeah, no, I have no, if you look great. If
you look at the trailer for Maleficent, which they played on
the Grammys, as a commercial, you'll see that that's totally
Katy Perry's performance. You know, as I said, you can't even
do a good good devil worship anymore.
All right, CBS.
The Janet Jackson. Yeah, I thought it was CBS. Okay. And
then we had the the State of the Union address. And I was quite
surprised how many people emailed me. And I wasn't going
to get any clips from it. And now, you know, because what do
you expect? First of all, we have 33 point 3 million people,
according to the Nielsen who watched
the State of the Union. So we got to the point three right on
the mind. I mean,
please, can you give us a magic number? What are they trying to
tell us with all this?
That's what I was. Well, you tell me I can't figure it out.
I have I pulled a couple of quick clips just to make some
points. Is there anything you wanted to say specifically about
this, this speech? Well,
I got a kick out of this part.
Did you What did you I watched the span what coverage Did you
watch?
I've watched either a CNN to CNN usually has the best, although
in this case, CNN had Wolf Blitzer running the whole thing
and this guy, I don't know what he's on, but he just could not
stop talking. So they'll get Let's be quiet now. Where they
where they're going to announce the President is going to say
the president's name and the President is gonna come out and
the President be walking down the aisle and we're gonna we're
gonna make some of the people on the outside everyone. Hear what
the President says to these people on the aisle. And when
the president and he talks over the whole thing?
What I what I really miss, and we were sitting watching, and of
course, we had an ice day, the day we couldn't go outside. The
Austin froze, essentially. Yeah, this was kind of nice that this
happen. So we stayed inside the whole day. And we're so we're
watching. Like, where's the word go switching over to E you know,
where's the red carpet event? Shouldn't we have Kelly Osborne
and then that's the fat gay guy. Should they be doing like
fashion stuff? Because Wow, you could just see these ladies.
Hey, I love you yellow outfit. Oh, your orange is great. Oh,
purple is all the rage. Who gives the WHO styles these
women? It is the most atrocious. These outfits.
Well, what have you spent you? Can you imagine watching this
and then seeing a bunch of women in this audience wearing floral
prints? I mean, come on. Well, you know. Yeah, the guy's got to
be dressed like Prince. I don't think so.
By the way. Did you see Taylor Swift's chainmail dress during
the Grammys?
Probably when she was standing up and dancing.
Yeah, she kind of ruined it with a dancing but man she looks good
in that dress. Oh my god. And I'm no Taylor Swift Fan.
Especially. Deb she's got the top people top people
working on her especially when she did that performance with
the orgasmic headshaking What the hell was that? That was
a break her neck? That was
we have you seen the there's a video floating around? Where?
What is the it's the console game where you're you're
fighting with? You're doing kung fu kicks, and I've played it 100
years ago, ever anyway, so one of these characters drops in the
frame and starts kicking her in the head and every single head
goes back. It's very funny. Okay, back to the State of the
Union. And all the atrocious. America should just
you asked me a question. You didn't let me answer yes, a
dummy. No wonder the
world hates us. Just look at what our politics our female
politicians are wearing. No wonder the world hates us.
looks so weird. Here's what God's got to me. There's a one
moment it's early in the speech where he decides that he's going
to he's going to tell he's already been doing executive
orders left and right, even though they say he hasn't done
that many. And I don't have the numbers, but whatever the case
is, he says, he says he's tired of Congress's do nothing.
Congress hasn't done anything. So he's going to take matters
into his own hands as a dictator. And he's going to
start using his pan and his phone to get things done,
because he is the president and he's screw Congress. They give
him a standing,
oh, well, half of the audience gave him a standing ovation.
This is
for one thing, they should have impeached him on the spot.
No, this is very interesting. You know, when the President
goes, does these president the Democratic Party fundraisers,
there's never any audio or video of it, but the White House
always releases a transcript, which is kind of weird, because
you have no context. But I always read these transcripts.
And for the past, a while months is, as far as I can recall, a
couple months, everywhere he goes. The crowd at these
fundraisers are cheering, Executive Order executive order.
Yeah, we could just show him show him these as well show him.
This is a big thing amongst the Democratic Party. This is they
really, really, really want him to start issuing a lot of
executive orders. So I'm gonna say it's not him. The entire
Democratic Party really wants a dictator. Well, they will
whatever they want. They want to route around the process.
If the Republicans were in office, they'd be probably
chanting the same crap horse, of course, but he should be he
should be immediately impeached. The
he hasn't done anything yet. He hasn't done it
after the just for threatening right after the, I don't want to
jump ahead because you have some clips from the speech, we'll get
back to you. But I think we should at least the next day. He
goes out and I think he's a little more blunt about it with
this clip, I have Obama. He goes to Costco. Yeah, he will. He
mentioned Costco didn't he in the speech. And then he goes to
Costco, and he gives a speech at Costco to the employees. And I
guess anyone wandering around
headquarters in his State of the Union. Last night, President
Obama spoke of opportunity for everybody promising to issue an
executive order to increase the minimum wage for new federal
employees. Today, he took his message on the road, at a Costco
in Maryland, the President said he wants to give America a
raise, and won't wait. If the House and Senate hold things up.
America can't just stand still, if Congress isn't doing
anything, I'm not gonna stand still either. Wherever I can
take steps to expand opportunity for more families, I'm gonna do
it with or without Congress.
Now, this is about the 1010 minimum wage for federal
contractors. This is not about anything else than that. Which
is I mean, of course, I looked into Article Two, which is about
of the Constitution, you always have to kind of refresh your
memory, about, you know, how the executive orders work. And there
is no specific mention of an executive order in the
Constitution. However, the in Article Two there and this has
been going on since Wow, George Washington issued executive
orders, if it is if it pertains to the Constitution and the rule
of law being followed, which is him. This is a very broad
interpretation. And remember that just about everybody in
politics these days is a lawyer. So there's a lot of lawyering
around this. And it can be struck down. I mean, there's
there have been executive orders that have been struck down in
the past and the Supreme Court can look at these but you're
looking at half the country. Well, more than half the country
51% of the country that votes. Who really want this they they
they want Germans wanted Hitler. Well, I want this. Okay, you are
jumping ahead now. But let's talk about this. This is the a
meme that is running around about inequality. And I have
been paying very close attention to this and what caught my eye
specifically, was an article and a letter sent into thick The
Wall Street Journal, by Tom Perkins. Uh, Tom Perkins is a
very famous Silicon Valley venture capitalist or he kind of
was that his name is still on the Kleiner Perkins Caulfield
buyers door. And, of course, I've raised a lot of money from
my previous combos or previous company with them. A baton
person Just not not a part of it.
And he's still a part owner.
Oh, yeah. But he but they. So he sent this letter to The Wall
Street Journal. And it was kind of was based on his ex wife
Danielle Steel,
filling about a power couple.
She sold him she sold about a billion books, a billion with a
beat loaded.
She has one of the biggest mansions in San Fran she is
the most successful fiction writer of our time. And she was
apparently I haven't read the piece but she was pulled apart
by the Sanford's, I believe by the Chronicle. And she's a
horrible person. She's a rich snob and who does she think she
is. And of course, there's no mention that she is a huge
philanthropist and has given away a lot of money to all kinds
of good causes. And then Tom Perkins, I guess he they're
divorced, but he still likes her, they get along and said, I
got a defender and say hold on a second. This is very dangerous.
And I kind of got into this and I started researching. He says,
It's very dangerous when 99% of the population start hating 1%.
Now what he's doing here is he's taking the 99% versus the 1%
meme of Occupy Wall Street. And he is saying and he actually
specifically equated it to Nazi Germany. Yeah, well, yeah. But
I'd be you know what I've looked into this, and he has, I think
he has a point. And I really liked what he was saying. He's
saying, in the 30s, it was the Jews who, in fact, it this is
well known the Germans at the nationalistic Germans known as
the Nazis and the Nazi Party, the Nationalist Party, I talked
about the stab in the back. And the stab in the back was the
according then to what was reported and written and spoken
about, where the Jews who ran the banks and the stock market,
and that they had, they being the Jews had rigged the war, the
financing of the war, and Germany had lost World War One.
And moreover, they were responsible for the Bolshevik
Revolution. And, of course, then we got Kristallnacht. And this
is the end, though. So Perkins got his ass handed to him by the
anti Defamation League is what happens if you say, if you're in
mainstream, and you say anything about Jews, immediately, you get
called and called out, and it's a horrible it's happened to me
is a very, very horrible experience. So this happened to
him.
And he said, all what happened to you again, the way your head
and whatever, I
really don't give a shit, because there's nothing can go,
nothing can happen to me, I have no skin in the game. And they
can't take away any advertisers. But his point is, at the time,
and this is his equation, the 1% Actually, if you look at
Wikipedia is 0.86% of the population were Jews, and the
Jews were running the financial industry. And they got
persecuted. Because, you know, they had apparently used their
financial power to ruin Germany. This is his equation. And if
you've searched around on the internet, you can find this
story. And of course, I wasn't there. And I have no idea really
what the facts are. But it's not something that's taught in
school, necessarily. People just say, well, Hitler hated Jews,
and he started killing him and all the Germans were in on it,
there's probably a little more backstory to it. It's just a
little more, just a little more,
there's more to it, obviously, but that generality is not is
not wrong.
But there but someone started a spark. There was a reason why
the Jews were so hated that they went to kick the gas them, John,
you think they're gonna get you thinking mob is finally going to
form and go to Hillsborough? And well, well, well, well rounded
up the rich put their heads on a stick? Well,
if you listen, if the President of the United States in a state
of the union is pounding on about inequality, and what is it
what what does it actually mean? To people are saying everything
is shit in our country? Because the richest 1% are hoarding all
the money? Yes, yes. Yes. I think you're not far off from
people saying that would be something to see from you're not
far off from saying people who are rich are the problem and we
need to gas them.
No, see, this is this is where I go off in another road. Okay, we
need to develop a wealth tax and the problem is solved. But go on
with your thing.
Oh, no, that's not my thing. I'm making an analysis here. Here's
I pulled a little clip from Tom Perkins. When he went to explain
this on
Bloomberg, how do you see this divide? Playing out.
Now that as the messenger I've been shot, I think at least read
the message.
But you just said at the beginning of this that you were
gone, you regret
regret the use of that word.
The word is crystal enough that he regrets using that equating
the Occupy Wall Street people to Nazis who went and, and and
trashed all Jewish shops, banks and synagogues
was a terrible misjudgment. I don't regret the message at all.
In fact, what is the message? The message is anytime the
majority starts to demonise a minority, no matter what it is.
It's wrong and dangerous, and no good ever comes from it? What's
the solution? Well, first to understand the problem. Be aware
of it. That's why I wrote the letter. And I don't apologise
for writing the letter. I should not have used that awful word.
But the letter said what I believe and I believe we have to
be careful that we don't demonise a anybody. And we
certainly don't demonise the most creative part of our
society.
Now, let me understand, John, you saying wealth tax is the
solution. I don't think it's the solution at all the wealth tax
is not going to raise anyone's standard of living it's only
going to be put into the government to be squandered on a
military
anyone who pays income taxes standard of living in one second
once it's passed is instant. What do you mean standard of
living is increased?
How do you how do you how do you figure that
you're making $100,000 a year let's say and you're being taxed
at a 30% rate so you're taking home 70,000 Once a wealth tax is
enforced, your income tax is going to drop probably at least
by half to about 15,000 your your standard of living goes up
immediately.
Mice my standard of living
goes oh I'm just saying the theoretical person that makes
$100,000 a year now
that's bullcrap that makes no sense.
What do you mean it makes no sense what are you talking
about?
So if you tax a billionaires 50% of their income you're telling
me it's gonna
make it you're talking about we're talking about one 2%
Yeah billionaires That's what I said. If you want you tax them
1% More okay.
Oh you tax them like 1% of their wealth to write and then where
does that money go? What's what's is different to some
make? What do you mean where it goes where all the money goes?
Where same place it goes now Okay, so yeah, it's not you're
not gouging people earning an income by taking their their
hard earned money away from them for actually working. Okay. So
we will have established wealth let me understand it's not it's
doing nothing for anybody and they're demanding to be taxed
more May I
ask you a question? Are you saying that if we tax the the
the 1% that we can then alleviate taxes on the 99% it
gets taxed?
Everybody gets taxed the same? Yes. Okay. A wealth tax right. I
get it and but your mistake is you think that the person who
was poor is going is not going to benefit from that.
Yeah, they are. How is that gonna pay any taxes?
Oh, you so you're saying there's no tax we only have a wealth
tax. Yes.
There's no income tax. That's the that's the killer.
Oh, that's not the same as just saying wealth tax. You're saying
a wealth tax system. When so if you're wealthy, then you get
taxed in America. That's what you're saying. You pinko you
pinko commie.
It's what they do in Switzerland. Is that a communist
nation?
With with with a monarchy? Output, please. No, no, no,
John, John, Jonah. This
Okay, wait, well, let's let's back up with you in this idea.
First of all, Tom Perkins is an out and out douchebag of the
highest order period. I agree. And he comes out with this
arrogant crap is no American thing. I feel like I should say
something because oh, I'm being put upon Oh, my God, I could be.
I could be strung up tomorrow by an angry mob, which is never
going to happen in a million years. And he's got places all
over the world to retreat to have he has this horrible
problem that's facing him. And he comes out with this nonsense,
a piece of crap article, which is excoriated by everybody in
coding his own company, Kleiner Perkins. It has to come out and
say, Oh, my God, this guy had our own founders and idiots. We
just disavow ourselves from this whole thing. And you're
defending it?
i Yeah, I'm not defending everything. I'm saying it's
worth listening to what he's saying. And by the way, a tweet
from Kleiner Perkins, PR is not the same as John Doerr staying
standing up and saying this is bullcrap that's not exactly the
same thing as John Doerr. Well, you should ask John what
he's gonna say. He's gonna say it's bullcrap.
What I'm saying is when you have the president of America,
pushing the equality mean, what does that mean? Forget Tom
Perkins. What is the President saying with that? He's saying
America's unfair, that the rich people only get richer. Is that
what he's saying? I just want to understand
what he said in 2008. Why would he change his tune?
Right? Do you not see that there could be a danger in that? of
persecution? Of I'm going to say, Please, listen to me. You.
Okay, you're you're you're trying to break this argument by
by rolling your eyes.
But I think they're,
yeah, they're rusty. But I think there is a valid point that you
need to look at history. What happens when you persecute a
small group of people who in this case happened to be mainly
Jews?
No, they're not. Yes, they are. A Jew liner. One door is not a
Jew,
John, in general, they're talking. This is about bankers.
But I'm no friend of the bankers. I'm just looking at
history and saying, oh, that's an interesting point. Then then
maybe we should go back. And maybe you should tell me how did
Hitler get an entire nation to hate this small as 0.8% of the
population so much so that they gassed them to death? How was
that? How did that happen?
It was a complex sociology at the time. Do
you think we have a complex sociology right now?
Let's put it this way. I don't think the rich are going to
suffer or even have a potential of suffering the fate of the
Jews in Germany during World War Two. I don't even think it comes
close. I think this is just rich people whining, okay.
I am not on the road. They
don't love us. Oh, I'm not a loved person for all. All the
good. I've done. I'm not nobody loves me.
Okay, let's take this a little further look at what's actually
happening. To the people who work at the rich people's
companies. There is a growing hatred for people who take the
Google bus or the Apple bus or it will the people who are
pushed out of the neighbourhood by Twitter by the gentrification
of certain well established areas of San Francisco, there is
an actual hatred going on. Now.
I'm not buying it. You're not buying the hatred as a true a
created pile of crap done by extortionist much like you'd see
with the rainbow coalition that are way soon as they get their
pay off from Google and Twitter and all these other guys, they
get a little money under the table, this will go away
overnight. I
hope so. I really do.
It's an extortion racket.
Hmm. Okay. Well, I want to register that I feel that you
need to look at some history and that I do not like, I personally
forget Tom Perkins. Do not I don't lay awake at night
thinking about Tom Perkins. I do not like when my president is
bitching about income inequality. You know, this is
not this, this country is an experiment and we set it up a
certain way. And that's part of it. And here's the difference
between our president of the State of the Union and our
President. As he was running for reelection,
Americans understand that some people will earn more money than
others. And we don't resent those who by virtue of their
efforts,
have you stopped for a second stop? You know, have you noticed
this throughout the speech? When did you start picking up this
habit of talking like this? Every so often, he'll say, and
then which people? Is this like George Bush used to do that? If
he did you notice this in the speech?
Many times, well, there's a Cup trophy, there's a couple of
things that we need to talk about. But so this, I've clicked
this together, of him at the State of the Union, and then
have him in running for reelection.
Americans understand that some people will earn more money than
others. And we don't resent those who by virtue of their
efforts, achieved incredible success. If you've got a
business that you didn't build that somebody else made that
happen.
So we're in when did that happen? This switch? I remember
quite quite, quite clearly you didn't build that you're not
successful. You built it on the backs of other people. And now
it's Oh, no, it's the difference.
I think it's the same message. Wow.
Okay, well, we're gonna have to disagree on this.
You don't think it's the same message he's, he is he's again,
excoriating the rich because they're got all this money, and
there's not there really shouldn't be their money anyway,
because it's all done on the inside. struction all the crap
that the government know, I agree
it's the same message, but the words are different. He's
saying, Oh, no, this is a great country where you can be as rich
as you want, but not really. His message is no, not really.
Well, he's always been had this message is not unusual for him.
I think he's always been his I
just my point is this and this is my point. He is anti rich
anti business. And except, of course, when you know, when
you're willing to show up and you have a fort, you had a $400
million truck company and then he can you abuse you to pretend
like you're some new entrepreneur. Did you catch this
with a Ford lady, this is this is the piece that he talked
about two years ago,
as the auto industry came roaring back. Andhra rush opened
up a manufacturing firm in Detroit. She knew that Ford
needed parts for the best selling truck in America. Watch,
and she knew how to make those parts. Yeah,
she best selling truck in America. It's a Ford camera, I
got the biggest kick out of
that. So she already owned before this before she opened
her new CDM is the initial the business before she already had
a $400 million dollar trucking company. So this is just more at
least the guy talks out of both two sides of the face. He loves
having the elites around him and paying for his campaign and
whatever else he needs money for. But yet, screw the rich,
which is a popular meme. And it's a growing frustration,
John, and I am going to agree in general, with Tom Perkins
message that has to be in America. I feel that has to be
evaluated and looked at and we do need to be a little careful
about that. And I hope I really hope you're right. I hope it's
just a whole bunch of people who are pressuring and want to get
paid off, and then the whole issue will go away. I don't see
it that easily. I don't see it going away that simply.
Well, when the economy collapses, it
seems when the economy collapse collapses, that is what happened
in 29. We had the same problem. 2829 It was people bitching
about the same thing. There's was discrepancy, and then that
was corrected by the economy itself. Not completely, but
enough so that it but
I do not believe that. Who was the president at the time
Roosevelt?
In 28?
Yeah, was the President Hoover, Hoover. I do not believe Hoover
was doing speeches saying, Yeah, rich people suck. In times, like
this is not the message. That's not the right message. It's a
dangerous message. And what is rich, by the way, by many
standards, you and I are incredibly rich. Seriously,
we're rich and spirit, Adam, rich in spirit.
Blow me Devorah. Like, okay, fine. Let me ask you another
question. Why does our government and apparently a lot
of people, why are we all in on pre kindergarten? Do we really
need to send our children this training?
This is a great question.
Slave training, the children who are younger than five need
government financed? Start education. No, no, I do not
believe children need to go to some. Sure. Five,
most students do not need to go to kindergarten. It's that's
where it begins. White do it earlier. No, I agree with this
1,000%. Why don't we just here, do it like this part and choose
to do the kids born, you grab them from the mom, and you put
him into a state run institution from day one and teach them to
be a trained killer?
Exactly, or whatever with Common Core God knows. Which The
President also hype without actually saying it? Yes. Oh,
great. The governors are all in state led initiatives. No, no,
your children are being trained to be. And maybe it's the right
way to go. I don't know if you're gonna have an equality
state anyway, you might as well have everyone just be you know
what? I think the matrix comes into play. We just need to
figure out a way to pump human resources with enough food and
hook up electrodes. So they just provide electricity. And just
have you stay at home and watch television.
So we look at this speech as a I don't know what was what was
your takeaway? They use a Silicon Valley terminology
brought up the venture capital community. What was your
takeaway from this speech? Did it save Obama's career and make
him a great man because because some people in the media seem to
think so. Ah,
I need to talk about two more things to give you my final wrap
up. The first one is this but the
debate is settled. Climate change is a fact. And when our
children's children look us in the eye and ask if we did all we
could To leave them a safer, more stable world with new
sources of energy, I want us to be able to say yes, we did.
I want to say something I agree with the President on this.
Climate change is a fact.
global cooling. And what
he did not say is manmade climate change is a fact. The
guy's very, it's always changing. Yes, thank you. The
guy's very slick, very, very, very slick. He had no problem
saying that. I two things I looked something up. Because
there's two things that really, really, really bothered me. And
the first one is for the president who I don't, I believe
he is an atheist.
To brought this up on the show sometime back and we're pretty
convinced of this. He never goes to church doesn't care.
So he winds up his speech with God bless America. He always
does, which I find to be hypocritical. But okay, this
actually started in 1973, with Richard Nixon before that, no
president ever did this. Right. This is true, and I didn't
realise that and it is. It is just a marketing ploy. Though,
again, initiated by Nixon, and it the I would say most people
who use this term God bless America, God bless these not
using these United States are hypocritical, atheist pricks.
And they're just using it to sucker anybody in who might
somehow believe in this or who actually believe in it. But in
general, it's a marketing ploy. And it's sad. It's sad,
specially since Richard Nixon started it. What does that tell
you? If you're still doing it? Now? Now,
you can't get rid of it now.
Now, here is not
before you go on. Yeah, it's done. It's a done deal. This is
like the little I don't know if you remember the flag, the flag
on the lapel a scandal, apparently, was Obama one day he
didn't put his little flag on
his lapel. Yeah, he wasn't patriotic.
So there was just everybody was all over it. I gotta watch.
What's the flag doing there in case he gets shot down oversight
Vietnam? I mean, what do we know he's an American he knows is the
President for God. This is like the badges that these tests
these general generals
were okay, good. I'm glad you got to that point. I am so sad
to see our representatives of government. And, and I'm pretty
confident most people who the 33 point 3 million people who watch
this speech, the longest applause and it wasn't like we
hadn't had 15 Or maybe 20 cutaway shots of this poor boy
who's half his head got blown off in Afghanistan. And we're
all standing and applauding and we're tearing up for the fact
that this country sends its children to get half their heads
blown off in a country we have no business why are we there to
rip off poppy fields for drugs and oil pipelines and minerals
and pretend that we're protecting the homeland. It
disgusts me. And I come from a long line of uniforms and people
in in in government agencies, who I consider to be extremely
patriotic, but the way this is now being used for this bogus,
bullshit war. Really, really no, I got very angry and very sad
about oh, because he's there in some other athletes. Some
Afghani kid blew his head off, because he didn't know what the
fuck that American kid was doing there. It made me really sad
that this is what we're applauding, and it was misused
by this administration to cover up all the other crap that is
going wrong. So we can all feel good about our men and women who
are thank you for your service. Second thing
do you think there become a day it seems to me it's it should be
now where they just don't do this speech.
There's no actual reason to do it other than marketing.
I think there's something in the law are in the hands or make a
report
to Congress. It doesn't have to be on television. It doesn't
have to be televised, it
can be spoken words, it can be just sent out as a memo.
In fact, it is supposed it has by constitutional law, it has to
be written. According to Article Two,
I find that this be it bothers me and that it just I think that
thing is gratuitous. I think it's it's out of date. It's not
necessary. I don't see any reason why every network in the
world has to put it on or they're going to feel like
people are going to condemn because you know what would
happen if CBS actually ran as normal schedule on a Tuesday
night with NCIS NCIS LA and persons of interest? It would
kill the other networks? Yeah, it would be the end of it. If
one of the network's was stand up and say Look, we're not
running this thing because it's boring. And nobody watches it.
It is meaningless. And it's it's just a political speech and they
just pulled the plug on and said, No, we're running NCIS and
our regular scheduled programming for Tuesday night,
they would wipe out the other networks in the neck which would
have to follow suit in the future.
That is the Ted Turner model, by the way. Article two, section
three, the president shall from he shall from time to time give
to Congress information of the State of the Union, and
recommend to their consideration such measures as He shall judge
necessary and expedient time to time. He may, on extraordinary
occasions, preempt any primetime programming, to the Constitution
says right here to convene both houses or either of them. And in
case of disagreement between them with respect to the time of
adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think
proper. Did you ever know this, he shall receive Ambassadors,
other public ministers smoke, we do Glines a Coke, he shall take
care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission
all the offs to this very, very small line about this. But that,
of course, and that started with who was the first televised
State of the Union president? Well, that
would have to be after Roosevelt would do stuff on the radio, and
that was ramped everything. Yeah. And so then you had Truman
and television was just coming. It would probably be Eisenhower,
I think it was Eisenhower.
But he was actually a good public speaker that was
interesting to listen to. Because he didn't he didn't have
he wasn't written by handlers, and it wasn't teleprompters he
read from a piece of paper.
I will say, though,
that this has got to go.
The State of the Union is sad. The leader of our union is
lying, and tiptoeing around and riling people against each
other. I think he's it's very, it was divisional. Also the
douchebags who are in the actual chamber, oh, I'm not gonna stand
up. Oh, I'm gonna stand up. Oh, and we're military. We're not
standing. We're not even going to clap for anything, you know.
And the Supreme Court judges. It's the whole thing is a big
puppet theatre of douchebags, who, by the way, pretty much,
without exception are all millionaires and part of the 1%.
Yeah, this is true. With the exception of Biden energy can
save a nickel
and it's shameful it the whole thing is shameful. It really is.
I'm ashamed of what I see when I see this
as another reason why when it should be preempted. And it
should be this is over. This is stupid. We should have to stop
doing these speeches. If war breaks out or something in real
war. Yeah, the president can come on and preempt a few real
war. I see no reason for this speech. chewed up a good part of
this show. True. True. Nobody's knowledge.
Anything. No, it's true. It's just ruined. It's ruined. It's
ruined my day. And of course, it is misused by the the true
douchebags. I'm looking at you, Dianne Feinstein. To the tee up
L. Security Intelligence Committee hearing in Senate the
next morning. Well, no one's talking about anything except
Oh, the vote or the President was very firm or whatever. He
might have funny about the speaker of the house. Yeah.
Well, that's all going on in between Justin Bieber updates.
We've got the we had we had the Oh, my God. Everybody was here.
John, did you see this thing on C span?
There was two of them. At the same time, there was the Justice
Department Oversight Committee, and then there was the
intelligence cell Senate Oversight Committee, and it was
loaded with good stuff. That's what I was spending my time
studying.
Well, I got it too. So I so clapper Brennan, Comey, Flynn
and Olson, this is this is the these are the guys you want. Oh,
by the name of the crop. I found your clip of Dianne Feinstein
from 2009.
When she asked in 2009, remember the date? What did she ask? She
asked if there's going to be an attack on the homeland within
six months?
2009 2009 2009 What is the likelihood
of another terrorist attempted attack on the US homeland in the
next three to six months high or low? Director Blair,
an attempted attack the priority is certain I would say Mr.
Panetta, I would agree with Mr. Molar agree channel Well
purchase ma'am agree Mr. dinger? Yes
Well there you go.
attempted attack in 2009 that was going to take place within
six months.
Actual terrorist attack blowing something up.
Yeah, yeah some kid. Yeah, I pulled a kid peed in the wrong
bathroom you
know who knows? I pulled a couple of clips just short ones
shows you what a this is. I was actually irked almost the for
the last couple of days watching this stuff. I got some clips too
but plate what
I have. Yeah, I have a little a little Whoa, what's going on
here what's happening hello to check to alright. Before it
started the Code Pink was in the in the audience holding up signs
like stop lying Stop stop spying. And I have to give some
kudos to Code Pink. They got cute girls now with big boobs
and tight T shirts who are yelling stuff
they must have had as some consultants come in?
Well, I think we maybe they listened to our show, I think
wasn't this one of our recommendations to get some good
looking girls
that listen to our show from both sides of the political
spectrum. Code Pink is not on that list. I can assure you that
there's not an I challenge any Code Pink person out there that
actually listens and I don't want somebody with some bold
crapper to say yeah, I'm in gold pink. No, I want to so honest
input that will you get or nothing is going to come in.
So I tried to crank this audio up because this is just before
Diane, fine. stinkle. A hammer is the beginning of the meeting,
where this really cute girl with a really tight t shirt with a
just nice, nice chest and she was showing it all for a reason
to get some media attention, which of course fails
completely. But it's the right idea. She'll get some attention
here on the no agenda. So So just imagine what she looks
like. And she essentially is doing a Donald Trump on on
clapper clapper and Brennan and she's firing them on behalf of
the American people.
about national security threats let's talk about drones that
violate international law terrorists have already fired to
Congress and provide to the American. I like I'm gonna give
them a little in the morning for the cute Code Pink girls and
clapper your fire to Brennan you're fired. I like it, then I
think that's that's a continuing meme that we need to keep alive.
You're fired. What you should have done though, is she should
have fired a couple more people who on the panel. I'm going to
play you two very short clips, one from Senator Collins and one
from Senator Mikulski. Both women not that that is matters
in this case, but they both happen to be douche buckets. And
here's the reason why the American people don't trust you.
And I'm just gonna I'm gonna ask everybody this question, John, I
want you to answer because you're the only one with the
only other person on this programme with a microphone. If
I asked you what is the first name of the whistleblower, known
as Snowden?
I would say I would say Edward Edward
would be your answer. I'm going to look at the chat room see if
they also would answer, Edward. And I wonder if I went on the
street and ask people what is Snowdens first night? Do you
think people would know Ed or Edward Do you think they would
know this?
I think anyone who heard of him you would know this. Yes.
Because it's always been used.
Let's listen to Senator Collins,
General Flynn. That's fire in the discussion today and in
general, there has been very little focus on the damage that
Edward Snowden Edwin okay
Edwin snowed in All right. Let's go to the the miniature douche
bucket known as Mikulski Senator Mikulski, let's see who she
thinks this Snowdens first name and no group of
employees has been battered more than the peep the men and women
who work at the National Security Agency because of the
illegal leaks by Eric Snowden
Eric snowed and Okay, very good, very good. This is why people
hate you. This is why people don't trust you're so out of
touch. You don't even know the guy's first name. What are you
doing, Rick? Are you just I missed that, by the way. Are you
guys high on meth?
And Mikulski? She's horrible. And Susan Collins I have three
clips from her but they're so damn long because all she does
is read from a script and Can dem kid Edwin?
Eric, Edwin, are you kidding me? These people are smoking crack.
They're not even literal reading. They don't even have a
newspaper apparently. Come on. This is why people have no trust
in you, Senators, distinguished senators, all right, clapper.
Wow, here's clapper. And this, of course was talked about a
lot, but there's something in here that he refers to, that
needs to be discussed.
But what I do want to speak to as a nation senior intelligence
officer is the profound damage that his disclosures have caused
and continue to cause. As a consequence, the nation is less
safe and its people less secure. What Snowden has stolen and
exposed has gone way way beyond his professed concerns with so
called domestic surveillance programmes. As a result, we've
lost critical foreign intelligence collection sources,
including some shared with us by valued partners, terrorists and
other adversaries of this country are going to school on
US intelligence sources, methods and tradecraft, and the insights
that they are gaining are making our job much, much harder. And
this includes putting the lives of members or assets of the
intelligence community at risk, as well as our armed forces,
diplomats and our citizens. We're beginning to see changes
in the communications behaviour of adversaries, which you
alluded to, particularly terrorists a disturbing trend,
which I anticipate will continue. Snowden claims that
he's one and his mission is accomplished. If that is so I
call on him and his accomplices to facilitate the return of the
remaining stolen documents that have not yet been exposed to
prevent even more damage to us security. Now, the
media made a big deal about accomplices and Gregory Roush
was all you all got in a husky about Oh, am I an accomplice now
and I don't even think Clapper was talking about the
journalists being accomplices but okay, that's at least that
gives the Glenn Greenwald some some fodder for the next couple
of next 48 hours. But what Clapper is referring to here is
an interview done by a rd, the German television network,
again, always Germany. And this and this is something that just
needs to be noted. We've got Poydras in Germany, Appelbaum in
Germany, we've got the German at what Snowden won't do interviews
with 60 minutes. What is it only German television? Okay, fine.
Because this guy is a CIA operative, and he gives it away
not once, but twice. And specifically, what clapper
alluded to,
at the very end, you ended up in Russia, many of the intelligence
community suspect you made a deal classified material for
asylum here in Russia,
the chief of the task force investigating me, as recently as
December, said that their investigation had turned up no
evidence or indications at all, that I had any outside help or
contact or made a deal of any kind. To accomplish my mission,
he throws it away. And he says to accomplish my mission,
right, the minute you got these clips, because I was going up
this is this. There's Yeah, and there we are to at two pieces of
evidence was within this interview, and people can check
it out. It's,
it's in the showcase. We gotta we gotta link in the show notes.
He says, let me just let me just make this point. He says, to
accomplish my mission. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. His
mission is a CIA mission. Yeah. And he was a CIA offered. This
is what we've been saying on the show from us.
And when you're a CIA operative, you are always a company man.
You are always a company, man. You do not leave, you can stop
working for them. They call you you're in or you're dead. You're
always accompany man worked alone. I didn't need so for
Snowden to say. Let me just play it again. Because the way it
slips out. And it is his mission. To accomplish my
mission to accomplish my mission, yeah, a mission, is it?
I think we've got it. Let's go to the second exam.
Here's the Okay, here's the CIA stuff.
In 2007. The CIA station to you with diplomatic cover in Geneva
in Switzerland. Why did you join the CIA? By the way? I don't
think I can actually answer that one. Okay,
because I'm a CIA agent.
If it's what you'd have been doing there, forget it. But why
did you join the CIA?
In many ways, I think it's a continuation of trying to do
everything I could to prosecute the public good in the most
effective way. And it's in line with the rest of my government
service. Yes.
And he is going to be brought home. The deal is being worked
out as we speak. It's all going to flow nicely. You know,
there'll be, there'll be some, there'll be some beautiful deal,
he's going to come back and it'll all be over. And the CIA
gets what they wanted. They get total control over the NSA, who
had who had gone off the reservation, they needed to shut
those guys down, rein in the FBI. I'm feeling there may be an
addendum to executive order one, two, triple three. Because
that's what everyone is operating off of, once again, in
the in the Senate hearings, it brought up again, and I can tell
you is this this is a set up,
you dissected, dissected the one two triple three thing and the
last show, which I thought was quite good, and it's still in
play, which means that these guys can be given the ability to
just do anything they want to. And I think that's pretty much
epitomised in this great bull crap answer clip I have, which
is where we're direct clappers direct asked another direct
question which he doesn't answer,
especially given what's been happening, that the CIA and the
director understand the limits of their mission and its
authorities. We all are well aware of executive order 12,
triple three, that order prohibits the CIA from engaging
in domestic spying and searches of US citizens within our
borders. Can you assure the committee that the CIA does not
conduct such domestic spying and searches? I can assure the
committee that the CIA follows the letter in the spirit of law
in terms of what CIA's authorities are, in terms of its
responsibilities to collect intelligence that keep this
country safe. Yes.
Have you ever screwed around me with another woman I can confirm
to you that I absolutely would never think that would be
appropriate to do because I like the use of performance much more
than answering your question.
So they got bigger. They walked on that one. Now, when you talk
about the CIA going after the NSA. You have to kind of see
who's in what camp because the FBI is in a camp. And then we
have we have the DIA. Yes. So they had General Flynn, right.
And Susan Collins was grilling him with and she threw some
stuff in there, by the way, which I did a little research
on, like the the Three Mile High stack of documents. So that a
doc three how my step, three mile high stack of documents I
calculated to be 48 million documents. Yeah, based on the
fact that a sheet of paper is point one millimetre.
John, oh my gosh, did you do this calculation on the chaise
lounge?
I did the calculation on the computer. So she's doing her
thing. So she's always in the NSA. I think the whole Feinstein
committee, by the way, is in the NSA camp, because I either
they've been blackmailed. I mean, she sounds like she's been
blackmailed away. She's reading this question. And the DIA seems
to also be under the gun because this is being asked of again,
and Flynn who by the way, and this is kind of interesting.
Flynn is a three star general. In other testimony, they bring
up the fact that the Cyber Command is run by to you to
count up to four star generals. Yeah. So the Cyber Command and
it was some of the some of the cyber command we can mention I
can tell you about later. But let's this is a long clip. And
you can interrupt
me just say one thing about before it all started, we found
out that clapper and Clapper is in charge of he essentially he
is the conduit of all intelligence to the President.
This is as determined by executive order one two triple
three, everything this bonehead Clapper, we're not we're not
we're gonna hear from a Flynn but clapper the bonehead is he
is the mack daddy of all these guys. He is the conduit to the
president. He gave a confidential note what did they
call it all off the record security thing
in the private sessions for you. Whenever they have a word for it
to Yeah, I know they do. Anyway something session he Yeah, he
had a
session and updated the Senate with all kinds of information
that could not be revealed the publicly disclosed and I believe
it's in these discussions where he says Ah, yeah, Diane. Yes, I
have a little Oh, hold on a second. Have a I have a piece of
paper here for you. Yes. This is about your husband's dealings
with all the post offices. Yeah, we wouldn't want that to slip
out Woodway I think you're right I think these people all of them
are being blackmailed.
So Susan Collins really is reading the end this is just
this is this is you already played part of this clip is
where she says, Ed, what's not Edwin Edwin?
Thank you, Madam Chairman.
Uh, did she have a stroke? By the way, this woman, she had a
stroke seven years ago. That's what I'm not gonna laugh about
that. But it is annoying because it takes a long time to get the
words out.
I should have sped up this process.
Sorry for all your stroke victims out there. I know. It
sucks. And my dad's one of them. It sucks. Like, oh, you just
want to like, hey, Snowden.
General Flynn. That's fire and the discussion today. And in
general, there has been very little focus on the damage that
Edward Snowden has done to our military. I've read the DIA
assessment. And it is evident to me that most of the documents
stolen by Mr. Snowden have nothing to do with the privacy
rights and civil liberties of American citizens, or even the
NSA collection programmes. Indeed, these documents and
we've heard the number 1.7 million documents are in many
cases, multi pages. If you printed them all, and stack
them, they would be more than three miles high.
Call it McGlinn. Call it McGlinn tell him to recut eight miles
high into three miles high
three. So let's stop right there. Now, all along, at least
from what they've been telling us. They don't really know what
Snowden ever took.
Even Glenn Greenwald says he has he thinks it's made up this
number.
Yeah. And then the government itself has admitted over and
over and the NSA said we don't know what he took, right? We
don't even know how he took it. Which is
well, yes, we do. We took it off a SharePoint Server.
So we don't know this. So where does this information come from?
Is she just making it up? I think she gets from this
information. She's reading from a script, obviously,
this is bullcrap. He gets it from this week in Google.
squeaking Jeff Jarvis.
I say that to get the public more information. No
more propaganda. Very good. Miss Collins, to thank you the
public. Thanks you for your service and your courage
about how extraordinarily extensive the documents that
he's sold. were sold.
He sold them. Did she say stoled? stolte? I think she said
stoled. I think she did. She's she's from the hood now
apparently.
Alright, the more I hear these, this, this, this is all theatre
because they have the real sessions in private. Exactly.
But you know, this is a we brought it up already. I'm gonna
mention this is part of the negotiations. Yeah, we are going
to start to slam Snowden for stuff that we don't know what
he's got. We admitted earlier. But now we somehow know what
he's got. And it's got nothing to do with privacy. It's a bunch
of military information that's going to be used against the
Americans.
And what's the guy's name? I gotta read the script here.
What's the Eric? Okay. Eric Snowden
Airoli extensive. The documents that he's sold,
she said stoled? Oh, let me ask you a question about the
documents. You stole the
word and they don't just pertain to the NSA, they pertain to the
entire intelligence community.
Yes. Let's quickly hop back to the ARD interview and find out
what that entails. Yes,
the NSA spy on Siemens on receitas. On other successful
German companies, for example, to prevail, and to have the
advantage of knowing what is going on in the scientific and
the economic world,
I don't want to preempt the editorial decisions of
journalists. Okay. But what I will say is there's no question
that the US is engaged in economic spying, if there is
information at Siemens that they think would be beneficial to the
national interests, not the national security of the United
States. They'll go after that information, and they'll take it
and that is particularly interesting in regards to the
huge scandals in Greece with Siemens, Siemens high speed rail
for California. Yeah, it's very interesting that the word
Siemens comes up Siemens
comes up with seems that Siemens has probably been bitching to
somebody about this because they know this is going on. So asked
me the question that the Snowden about good to us.
Eric, Eric, Eric. Eric, we will sync that The National Security
Agency is spying on the Mercedes and shamans. Oh, I can't
answer that question because I'm gonna leave it to the journalist
to answer the question. What does kind of have an obvious
answer of Yes.
Thank you for this interview is very nice. I like it's very much
that you chose the German German television to talk the truth,
the truth is
to get the message out to you boneheads
and include him,
by the way, just hit me a long term, since the 60s CIA trick
has been to have your operatives write something in a foreign
publication. So that then the United States publications can
point to it as fact and truth. This is a known CIA way of
propagandising people till you get someone to write something
in the index built. And then the New York Times can say, Well,
look, the Germans wrote it in their number one publication, it
must be true. And this is why the CIA, Eric CIA, Snowden has
chosen the German press. And by the way, this is a proper German
channel. This is not some fly by night, commercial channel. Now,
it's not a it's not a it's not at Murdoch own channel. You
know, this is a state television station for mation. Let's go
back to miss columns about
military intelligence or defence capabilities, the defence
industry now, you are the leader of military intelligence. You
have also been deployed for extensive periods in Iraq. You
know, what the impact is on the military? Could you share with
the committee your assessment of the impact that the damage that
Edward Snowden has done to our military, and in particular, has
he placed our men and women in uniform at greater risk?
Yes, you were dinging your belly. Mr. demora.
What a chicken shit.
Yeah, you know what they should have had
to do spring main vote this woman out of office,
that what she should have done is said, let me show you this
poor Ranger who's half his head was blown off because of Edwin
Snowden. That's it. They just make the connection. Please.
Just go all the way. What do you care? See this guy who has to
clap with one hand on his chest? Yeah, let's roll him out. This
because of Eric Snowden. His head was blown off. Because the
terrorists went to school on his documents. Oh, it's next. It's
put it in the book. It's next. John put this in the book.
I don't know how to put it in the book.
Wounded Warrior result of Snowden leaks.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
And this is it's so disgusting. I want to I saw this whole thing
and, and she was very annoying, and it's nothing she can help
other than that she's reading a script, and she read slowly.
Senator Collins, thanks for that question. And yeah, thanks. You
read it pretty well. It was kind of exactly what the script said.
So let me read my lines to you
know, on the report that you're that you're indicating or
highlighting this guy's clearing his throat so much Yeah, cuz
he's lie is lying do have a, I believe a session in about a
week for this committee to go through the entire report. The
strongest the strongest word that I can use to describe, you
know, how, how bad this this is, is grave damage to our national
security. I think another way to address you know, your question
is, you know, what is the what are the costs that we are going
to incur because of the scale and the scope of what has been
taken. Bye, bye, Snowden. I I won't put $1 figure but I know
that the scale or the cost to our nation you know, obviously
in treasurer in
case I missed that he she didn't he didn't do the blood. He said
I was waiting. I was the blood where's the blood, mix it up
abilities
that are going to have to be examined, re examined and
potentially adjusted. But I think that the greatest cost
that The that is unknown today, but we will we will likely face
is the cost in human life.
Yes, yes show the kid with his head blown off
on tomorrow's battlefield or in in some in some some place where
where we will put our military forces when we ask them to go
into harm's way,
and I think that's exactly what I'm predicting is exactly what
I'm predicting. That's the
greatest cost that we face with the disclosures that have that
have been presented so far. Yeah. Like the
kid with his head blown
down have gone up, he just goes on with his bullcrap. So she
comes back and asked this other guy, Matt Olson, who's the
counterterrorism specialist for the White House now.
Isn't he the guy that wrote the book? And we I think we had we
looked at this Olson guy, he's a another lawyer. I'm not a
lawyer.
But listen to his answer. Now, this is not as long thank God,
because I started by the length of these, but you know, Susan
Collins, I do say I should have processed her. So we could have
cut her questions from three minutes to 30 seconds. You
can just put Jill Abrams from the New York Times in there and
it would be the same. Well, let me tell you about Snowden. Hey,
you got that down? And well, I saw her. She was interviewed by
Al Jazeera. And I thought of clipping it, but it was She
really said no. Sounded like Schumer
when you're doing that voice.
Mr. Olson, it's good to see you again. We've worked extensively
when I was on the homeland security stuff.
So when they worked extensively, she was berating him for lying
about Benghazi. Really, oh, it was their old transcript. So
really, working together. Now they are
oh, you should if you have the transcript, you can go to C span
video library and get a clip it really couldn't find it. There's
a
lot of you that the library search thing is not you know
what
the problem is, because I do it all the time. And they have the
timeline, you can fill in the word and it'll and the timeline
will find when someone said something, but if you click on
it, it takes you to right after someone said something, but it
could be 20 minutes of transcript. It's horrible. I
spend hours finding this stuff for you, people.
Committee, I want to turn to the impact of the Snowden leaks on
our nation's ability to connect the dots and to protect our
citizens from terrorism attacks. You address this issue at a
recent conference. Have you seen terrorist groups change their
methods as a ret, as a direct result of the disclosures of the
stolen documents that Mr. Snowden has?
Yeah, this is this was quite funny. Actually, I thought
before you hit this play anymore, let me just throw this
out to our listeners and you. How do you know what do you what
he begins to say is you have to ask the question, how does he
know any of this? How do you how what? And if you do know this?
Why can't
Why can't you get these guys if you just go pick
them up? Or drone?
them? Yes. Hello Dr. Brennan's? Right, notice this too, of
course, it's a total hole in the way they operate. It's a hole in
the in the, in the
narrative, it's a hole in the narrative if we if you know all
our stuff, that we have this attitude about blowing people
out of the out of the off this earth with a drone? Yeah, go do
it. Yeah. We're talking. Senator Collins, the answer that is yes.
As we've been discussing, the the terrorist landscape has
become increasingly complex. We've seen the geographic
diffusion of groups and networks. And that places a
premium on our ability to monitor communications. And what
we've seen in the last six to eight months is an awareness by
these groups that and they're increasingly sophisticated, and
awareness of our ability to, to monitor communications and
specific instances where they've changed the ways in which they
communicate to avoid being surveilled, or being subjected
to our our surveillance tactics. Yeah.
I agree with you, John. I feel that if you know that there's
guys who were talking about something and then they changed
their ways ie they stopped using what was that video conference
chat thing that was on the list along with Skype, whatever they
so they stopped using Skype. Right and you know this and you
know, the guys where they located Blow em up. You do that
for anybody else. So it's yeah it's a hole in the plot it's a
hole in the narrative. The writers don't know how to fill
it by the way because these guys know they don't it's the same on
CSI or or homeland that the holes are the same and you can
if you really objectively watch the shows you would be shouting
your television saying you know he's doing it well him up Yeah,
so it's uh yeah,
I find it very offensive and I
and of course more offensive is there was zero coverage of this
zero because everyone was talking about snow which is
cracks me up by the way I love how we can all predict how we're
all going to die from global warming, but we can't predict
ice and I and all of Atlantic got caught by it because
meteorologist couldn't fit go well gee, I didn't know what was
going to happen please insult me Hey, in the morning to you John
C Dvorak.
And good morning to you Adam curry in the morning all the
shifts to see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in
the water all the games and nights out?
Yes in the morning to the chat room. We've been very harsh on
me this morning. No agenda stream.com no agenda chat dotnet
Oh, they said you know everyone knows better. Curry doesn't know
what curry didn't know history shell I didn't know history he
you get an F for history. Curry.
Who's that guy?
Man, that guy is the guy who talks like that. It's trouble a
in the morning. Our artists Thank you very much. Joshua
Pettigrew. But a nice Davo a piece of art for episode a 586.
This is episode 587. You could find the show notes at 587. That
no agenda notes.com. And very happy to thank a number of our
executive producers and Associate Executive producers.
The opening credits are a little delayed today just because we
got into so there was so much to talk about. But these are the
people that you these are well these are the people that
finance it. That that keep us going keep the show going. And
these are the people who ultimately decide if we continue
or not, along with everyone else who is producing the programme,
and we will thank them in a segment later on in the show.
Oh, interesting. And let
us start with our first executive producer Hold on
a second. The problem was that I had my my keyboard had locked
up. I couldn't type
you've had nothing but problems with this keyboard.
I've had a really huge I've had weird problems recently from
mechanical things I heard I had I heard
I heard the horror which show? Yeah. And that was unacceptable.
That noise?
I filtered it out after some point you're not here to listen
to the beginning. Right? I heard
the whole show and you call that filtering. Yeah, you feel. Yeah.
Thank you. You're like whatever the case. Oh, don't worry. I can
we'll fix it in the mix. No, no. That was
at the beginning. And
may I make Can you just give me I make an observation else and
make an observation.
No. Make it in your other show.
This is exactly the point. You talk differently to him than you
talk to me.
What do you mean I talk differently to him? I'm the same
person.
Yeah, it's different somehow. And I'm a little I know because
I'm a little jealous, less likely to pull out a gun and
shoot me.
And I'm a little jealous. I'm a little hurt actually.
He says the same thing. Like me.
Yeah, you'd like to Horowitz better than you'd like me.
Well, I like a couple of guys for sure. And they tend to be
some of our producers, including our two Insta nights. Yeah.
Andrew Wilson in Hampton, Victoria, Australia who came in
with $1,000. Wow. Yes. Wow. Indeed. Dear John and Adam,
thanks for a great show back in 565. You kindly gave me some no
agenda karma. To my wife and myself. We're trying for a baby,
I can proudly announce that my lovely wife is now 13 weeks
pregnant and things are looking good. Ah, now the rest of it
just cut
I have after three years what I have and I don't have any more.
That's all I
got this after three year. Well,
let me hand out some some extra. This is what happens when you
know when you have your first your wife is pregnant. And you
get past that magical three months. So you get to you know,
week 13 Then you know you just like you're buying stuff you're
throwing money around.
And there's karma no
better place and tend to toss it our way. Andrew, thank you very
much instantly. You've got Carmen will be nodding him later
on, of course.
And then we have a second instant ICT. Paul Tao who
actually wrote a couple of different notes I'm going to
play the one I think is most appropriate. He's from He says
Qatar, he's in Qatar. Okay. He now lives in Lombok wherever
that is. I'm back off shore now and I noticed I made a donation
send a few photos. It's amazing what a few drinks can do
that. Yes, they sent the photos right, dry.
Anyway, just a quick look and give me a minute he wants to
milk call out some good luck karma for the new holiday villa.
He was just getting Oh, he's in Lombok, Indonesia. I think he
invited you to move to Indonesia. My website is Naef
avila.net not finished. meant to do it Sunday Monday, but it had
a few too many drinks instead. I come from the UK work in Qatar
and now live in Lombok and a sixth grade show and keep it and
keep it up. We will be donating more soon. Wow.
Can you spell the this this website of his
an IP a H na pa ni p h Villa V i l l a.com? Leave his his
place.net or dotnet. Oops. I just want to see it. Does he
have is this a place that we can stay?
I believe I'm not sure maybe nipa Villa finished so
if you Oh, wow. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Are you kidding me?
Relaxing, relaxing comfort in your private villa. It looks
awesome. Wow. Open January. Oh. Oh, hello. Wow.
Geez, hold on. We get there.
Each room can sleep up to four people with a double bed and so
who's going to sleep is a party party palace. Full AC and room
fan? Beautiful ensuite shower fitted wardrobe dress mirror.
wide choice of movies. Hello porn and satellite TV available
cold mineral does he have Wi Fi? He doesn't mention if he has you
got to have Wi Fi dude. If you don't have Wi Fi then it's off.
But look at it. She's got the best connection you can get
is beautiful there. All right, no call out and the karma.
Absolutely. That's one mother. You've got karma. And just some
beautiful pictures of waterfall and check
in i p h Villa dotnet. You should if you're going to
Indonesia you might want to consider that point. Lombok was
Lombok who cares?
It looks great. And well. Nice. Nice, Paul. Thank you very much
and we will be knighting you as well, my friend. Thank you.
I like the hustle and bustle of the cities of Indonesia.
Yogyakarta is
I have never been
hustling and bustling. Let's put it that way
too. Because they're as well. What do they have tuk? tuk tuk
tuk? So
those little things they drive you around
those three wheel things? Yeah, it's places is crawling with
tuktuks yeah, there's too
many. Okay, you're annoying. Dean Sharkey, a $600. from
Calgary, Alberta, Canada a John and Adam great work this. I
think this makes me a night $2 And he's got some counting.
Sorry for the delay and topping this up. I can mention Tom
merits daily tech news show that would be great. He loves you
guys. He does. Yeah, he's
he's he's talked about us. Oh, good for him. Yeah, he thinks
the value for value model is a good idea.
We have a link to patreon.com Ace detective to support the
daily best tech news out there. Keep up the great work. Dean
sharp GA in Calgary. Thank you. So all the money is
thank you very much, Dean. It's highly appreciate it and we'll
be needing you as well today. Nice. That's a great day.
Now Daniel de West came in with $500 from Bukit bought
Deutschland. And he wrote an extremely long note. I don't
know if we read this in advance.
I read it almost something wrong with my mic, man. What is going
on here? What is Hello,
filter it and post.
Oh, something's happened. Something bad is going on? All
right. Okay.
Let's see what we say yeah,
I'll send I'll send the file to you to fix and post
it free. Thank you. I'll filter it is free. It's something he
starts off. And I don't know if we've missed the beginning
because it frees you as well as the rest of us. I'm certain
you're missing the top line, I believe in the value for value
model you both of us for your show. And then it frees you as
well as the rest of us from a certain level of information
control mandated by the state and their corporate partners.
More people should consider value for value as a way of
distributing content, whether journalistic or artistic. Yes, I
agree.
It was not long ago, he continues that journalists and
artists had joined together in order to create an independent
platform, distribute and distribute ideas and commentary.
Some more interesting and influential than others run
examples the Russian Formalists from 1910 to 1930. Who saw that
maybe I should do this in the right voice, who sought an
alternative perspective on language and art and who and
writers still dangerous to the state were eventually condemned
and hounded by Stalin. And the authorities because the ideas
are not simple enough for the people. Many writers either
followed the state dictates or fled, or were imprisoned and
tortured.
But you know, this was actually, the his whole note is quite
beautiful. And what I'd like to do is I'd like to put his whole
note into the show notes. So people can read it, because
he's, he isn't noticed very long. Yeah, but at some
historical perspective, about what we're doing. Yeah. And how
it relates to history. And do you remember John, maybe 10
years ago that particularly liberals, were all concerned
about the arts?
Well, they generally, always
well, no, no, that's not true. Because now it's stem. Do you
remember it was like it's It's an outrage or sorry? Should it
be hated him? The kids have, you know, they only have one hour of
art class one hour of music? This is no good. It's gonna be
horrible. And now they're all stem. Yes, science, technology,
engineering and math. And are interesting
point and Abend. That's one point for a valid source of
observation.
And so here is Daniel de west, from Deutschland, who is saying,
hey, you know, there was a time when artists were condemned and
looks like those times are back upon us my friend.
Yes, and he says those who do nothing are surely doing
something. Yeah. Negative. But anyway, want to thank him? Did
he go I don't see that he made night with this, but if he did,
please let us know. And we'll throw it on lists next time to
random hillbillies in for $333.33 from Elkins, West
Virginia, your old stomping grounds. John, I was going to
send this for the Sunday show, but I was too busy getting ready
for my new job. I use my new job karma to send to all producers
that 2014 will be the most excellent. Our water is fine,
but my Adderall supply is critical. Although we're stuck
with weed to make it through the winter.
You'll do fine sir. Random hillbilly, thank you for your
support as always from West Virginia.
Sir gene that tool you have.
That is the Behringer Mariott the Sheriff of Texas,
the Sheriff of Texas 333 33 out of Austin call out to Shane
Patton as a douchebag being a longtime no no agenda listener
doing very well financially and not donate It's
an outrage. I tell you
Greg Porter is here with $200 from Jacksonville, Florida. Hi,
John and Adam. I had an emergency appendectomy today, so
I'd like to request some recovery karma Wow. For a while
I'm sitting here in the hospital. Mac and cheese is what
set off the whole episode. And so if I could get somehow get a
fuck mac and cheese I just gave him that so you can give him a
karma?
Yeah, okay. It's kind of crazy. We've got karma. Wow. I'm sorry
to hear that mac and cheese. Send it off, man. That's bad.
Yeah, it's Did you eat Mac? Cause this problem
1212 I something was wrong with me here.
What happened? I don't sound fine.
221-221-2122 Shit. 21212122 tu what is going on? 212212212 MK
two. Sounds weird. All right, well carry on the airframe
recording. Yeah, I'm recording. You'll be able
to count to two now people like three three say Jason Kirk and
COVID. Coggan Cogan, is Coggan Cogan, I don't know station
comes from Vegas Cogan station I think, I think so to $200. And
he has a note that he mailed Okay, in the morning, Bob and
Ray I've been wanting to ditch my Boehner status for some time
now and I finally decided I've waited far too long. And I
figured if I'm going to do it, I might as well become a producer
at the same time. If you would kindly de douche me and if you
could get some financial karma my way it would be very greatly
appreciated as I'm trying to actually save money and put away
for retirement but I'm finding that life doesn't make that an
easy task. Also, I'll let you to pick something off the
soundboard to play as I don't feel I've donated enough to boss
you to around just yet. And PS he says Keep up the great work
and he says PS told the gay Crusader he did a great job on
the white paper that I've already started hitting people
in the mouth with awesome oh, my just do this d do. You've been D
deuced? No Oh you've got karma
Hold on one second John.
Yeah, so we have these mechanical problems have been
plaguing me for a while it's not
a it's not necessarily a mechanical problem but it could
be electrical no actually it is it seems like a potential metre
well when my car I talked about this on the Yeah, you cruise to
cruise control, stop driving along and then boom cruise
control dies on me. Of course my car is 20 years old. My car my
car is too old. And then I token it, you know, I'm turning it on
and off and on or off and trying to add nothing. And so then I'm
coming back it still doesn't work then all of a sudden starts
working fine. Yeah, well, I just found that to be peculiar.
I had a problem. Back in the day. In 1988. I had a Rolls
Royce silver shadow to remember those days when I was rich and
it had a cruise control that stopped working but this cruise
control the way the Brits did it and you can look this up. In
this particular vehicle they use the bellows a an actual except
the weird is the bellows and the bellows would get suctioned. And
that's what would then because for some reason, they always had
to have something in between the control and the actual
electronic or the actual mechanics. So they had like this
bellows and the bellows will air would get sucked in and then
that would pull the accelerator cable. But of course, the
bellows was made of rubber and it wasn't a new car. And it
eventually you know, just gets leaky and porous and then the
cruise control stopped working. And that's your little car
history for today.
Somebody gave me a story once about how you tune a British
triumph motorcycle and how screwy the whole way it works is
it's just weird. Anyway, let's get back to our people. What was
that? I didn't say anything or go out on me again. No, hello?
Hello. Hello. I'm here. Okay, nevermind. Did your cruise
control go out? Christian Schlatter in Luthor, Seguin,
thaw, Switzerland. Enjoy your show a lot. Please don't make it
shorter. By the way, Davos is spelled with S at the end, since
it is part of the German speaking part of Switzerland. So
we're supposed to say Davos. It spelled that way. Didn't say
pronounced that way. Okay. But I think that maybe you do
pronounce it that way, I guess, Davos, Davos, Joel oral or
Bondo. Ovando Joe Bondo and come in come in Georgia. In the
morning, gentlemen, the first donor like they asked for
forgiveness and a deed douching. Since I've been listening to the
show for six months, and I have not invested in the show. Oh,
your donation levels of late have made me concerned that the
experiment of value for value may fail. And thus no more of
your deep insight and analysis of day to day media bullcrap. I
will step up my donations once I get my degree, he says another
student into student I love that. But for now you have a
slice of my alcohol and and you have a slice of my alcohol
annual allowance. Please give me some comments since I'm moving
to a new apartment in March. But what's funny here, we had the
two notes that came in by email, both of them wanted the same
thing at D douching. And karma isn't that interesting, kind of
a coincidence or another random number theory.
But let's let's hand it out to him right now. And thank you
very much for your courage. You've been de deuced you've got
karma ice.
That concludes our executive and Associate Executive Producer
segment of the show and remind people that we do have another
show coming up on Sunday, which was kind of a failure in terms
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And I want to thank sir face of FEMA five who has registered
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registered 20 thirty.org. Both of them of course, pointing to
know Jim shorter com along with the 2030 Club. Lots of articles
in the show notes today. Regarding 2030. I said this meme
is is really it's really, really happening. In fact, NPR even
propagated it just the other day. Here's NPR though it's
better than simply doing and by the way, NPR apparently I said
British people all the time now because it sounds so much more
official. I guess it's a tool. It's not an awful lot better.
Doug power of Greenpeace. He claims the world must cut carbon
emissions by at least 55% Before the year 2030. But the EU is
proposing a 40% cut instead.
Yeah, baby, join the 2030 club. You can make lots of money, send
money to us. It's a great system. We continue to propagate
2030 is the year of Armageddon. That's right.
Hello? Yeah. Armageddon. Yeah, I
don't know if you're bound not saying anything with all of our
mechanical problems, we don't know what's going to happen.
So yes, wheels will be falling off of things.
Now suddenly, we do have another show, please a support to the
programme.org/and. And of course, we would like you to do
one thing always go out and propagate the formula. Our
formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth
just mixing it up, just mixing it up a little bit. Wow, I have
so much that we have there's just too much for the show
today. But most importantly, I think we need to thank Brian
Heiss known as Brian the great the gay Crusader who released
the 129 page white paper.
I didn't expect it to be such a monster. Did you left no stone
unturned?
Yeah. And as I worked with him on this, oh, he did the work but
he would send me chapters and and, and his main thing was I
don't want anyone to be able to get aid any leeway every base
has to be covered. I would hate it he said if someone figured
out a way to you know, essentially die look at this is
bullcrap. And I think he I think he pretty much got all the bases
covered really. I think he realised
that this is like a screed from a paranoid there was there was
nothing he left out and there's no book that nobody can argue
against. I think that's why it didn't get any you know, because
there wasn't any of these you know, these picky guys you know
the guys who say, Oh, yeah Star Trek uniform that letter badges
down and it shouldn't be according to the Star Trek
manual.
And so he's now people have been sending they've been hitting
people in the mouth with it of course, but also been posting it
to the on the gay Reddit subreddit. Like almost no come
one guy of course, you know, like the gays are the last
people to find this interesting. Which irks me to no end. But
then on put it another Reddit and then kind of a couple of
nice really nice comments and I think one of those here I felt
so foolish for not seeing this for what it really was. These
are just comments. I was honestly convinced that Russia
was making moves to grossly violate human rights. I effing
hate how effective and coordinated us propaganda is. It
is good. Someone else said this is the best this is. This is
someone's this is this disappoints me. This is why
people hate America because propaganda is so thorough. Yeah,
no kidding.
Well, that's what gurbles was, uh, you know, he became a great
propagandist because he
there is no, there is no war one. There is no are in
Goebbels. Yeah, whatever. It's like, you know,
we mispronounce a lot of names. I like saying, girl, well,
that's fine. And there was a lot of propaganda done in world war
one that made the Germans look like a bunch of monkeys and all
the rest of it. And it found that, you know, well, yeah, we
too can play at that game. And he was pretty good.
So as I've been looking at a lot of these, a lot of these groups
and what is happening, and of course, this, this comes kind of
right on time that this white paper comes out. Because there's
a lot of weird things are happening based on this
propagandistic move which was started by Harvey Firestein of
all people. But just to give you an idea of really how annoying
to me this is very, very annoying that based upon this
lie we now have Melissa Etheridge was certainly one of
the most well known lesbians when it comes to celebrate ease
with uprising of love. And you really John, please go to
uprising of love.org, which has Hangouts on the air powered by
Google. Yes. Join uprising of love in support of the safety
and dignity of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and
intersex Russians. Are you kidding me? You are now
officially using this to raise money for gay activists in
Russia. And look at the people who are on board with this. Look
at this. And all these people should be shamed for not looking
really into.
I'm fine. What a crowd.
I mean, we've got Andy Cohen, he's Madonna, Ed Harris. Alan
coming. Oh, just the whole Ah, everybody's on board without
even looking at what's happening and look at the sponsorships.
And then I'm like who is who is behind this? So you if you go to
donate now and you know me, I love finding all the
organisations that are a part of this. And I was able to trace
this back through three nonprofits This is how
disgusting This is, to me. Is this nonprofits based on
nonprofits based on nonprofits and if you follow it all the way
through this uprising of love, you ultimately get to the Arcus
Foundation, who are apparently paying for this and well, I
guess they'll be taking the money in and the Arcus
foundation is pretty much solely maintained by John Lloyd
Stryker, which is a great porn name, by the way, but he's not a
porn artist. He's an American architect, philanthropist and
activist for social environmental causes. He is a
billionaire stockholder and heir to the Stryker Corporation
medical supply company fortunes of his grandfather, Homer
Stryker, and his net worth is estimated one to $1.2 billion
dollars. So we put a whole bunch of, of stock into this
foundation. So this it's it's heavily front loaded, got lots
of dough, and people are soaking the guy that's soaking him. He's
gay. And he's a big he, primarily, the Arcus Foundation
supports two causes sexual orientation and gender equality
and apes, which is an interesting combo. apes and
gays, I don't know why, but that seems to be his main things. But
I'm really annoyed about this entire group of people. And
let's add to that we have a big concert coming up. Sponsored by
human rights, Amnesty International, bringing human
rights home with Madonna and Pussy Riot is everyone is going
to this you have done that this is money making. They're taking
money for tickets, they're everyone's paying themselves.
You can look at the form 990s I've linked it all in the show
notes. Everybody gets paid. Everybody gets a salary
everybody gets their expenses taken care of. And then
whatever's leftover we're going to send to some other nonprofit
in Russia, because the poor gays apparently have no money to add
to be activists or whatever. Don't fall for this people. This
is bull. Bringing human rights home. The Amnesty concert pussy
ride. Yeah, that's a great show. Have you ever actually heard
Pussy Riot perform
this you might as well have three versions of Yoko Ono
sad, it's really it's, it makes me mad. You know, we're big
proponents of the LGBTQ Qi community. And this is a rip
off. It's just people just scamming money.
This is and this is this is a shocker to you.
Um, you know, when I want the gays and the lesbians and the
transgendered and the intersex and the bisexuals and the que
que ir and curious and whatever, I want you to understand that
there are people who are just taking money just because it's
what they do. They don't give up. They don't really don't
care. It's all pretend. It's like Haiti, does it no one know
the money isn't actually going towards anything. It's just to
have a concert and everyone to go, oh, it's like change your
Twitter icon. That's what it's the equivalent to change your
Twitter icon. It's not really doing anything. And the BBC, of
course, continues to proper propagandise. They had a great
report here it is. interviewing the mayor of Sochi with, of
course, a translation voice in voice over so we don't really
know what the mayor said. But it's all right. The message is
clear. It's
a big question for some Olympians and Paralympians as to
how they will be treated in Russia. And to find out more
we're going to a place with no name and no sign above the door.
The reason it's a gay bar
so the guy is in Sochi
plenty of places and he's and he's walking reason there's no
name there's what if there was a name it couldn't be a gay bar
is this is such a propaganda report.
Russia's new law bans the promotion of non traditional
sexuality to underage teens. Critics say the law is draconian
and it effectively outlaws gay rights protest
without notice how the report only highlights what one side
says critics say doesn't say what other people think or what
you know what would may be a conversation on Oh, it's
draconian. And it outlaws homosexuality injustice across
the board, BBC.
So how does the math feel about gay people in Sochi? In our
town? Don't have them in the sun.
The mayor apparently says we don't have gays in our town.
This is this is the BBC report issue.
No, I'm not sure. I didn't know them. I went to a go bar last
night,
I don't bloody know them. That. I don't know if there is a a
Russian word that translates the way bloody translates in British
English. Which is where if you say bloody, that's a worst swear
word than fuck. So this is a very skewed translation.
Will gay people be welcomed to the Sochi Olympics, NASA gets to
be our hospitality will be extended to everyone who
respects the laws of the Russian Federation, and who doesn't
impose their habits and their will on others. So yes, everyone
is welcomed.
And then it goes on and on and on and on. It's just more more
of the same. So please, people download a copy of the white
paper. It is in the show notes today. And you can find it under
the if Russia column. And of course, we've tweeted links to
it as well. And if you are a subscriber to the newsletter,
and we always have a link to subscribe to the newsletter in
every single copy of our show notes, then you will have
already received your copy. And it's quite an enjoyable read. I
think I think it's a good job. I think it's, there's a lot of
legalese in there, which you can you can skim past the bits you
want to but there's very colourful. And that kind of
shows what we've been saying all along that gays are mistreated
worse in the United States of America and in many other
countries. And that is not discussed at all, it is not
propagandise. And it's obvious that we need to make the
Russians look bad.
Well, and this is all at least one train of thought is that
because Putin took in Snowden, yeah. And he needs to be
punished. So there we punishing him, this is going to make him
look like an idiot. And it continues from there. So let's
we're talking about that part of the world. Let's jump to the
Ukraine, which we're not following close enough.
I do have a few things. But what do you what do you have? Well,
once
you throw your stuff out there? Well, I saw
a an interesting news piece, haiku Herman, the president of
the Euro lands, and he welcomed Putin to Brussels. And I heard
something and I just decided to investigate. Here's a little
snippet of this report,
a more stable economic and institutional environment,
improved market access, and intensified trade relations with
Rankin demand and create new business opportunities for all
that can be different interpretations and
misunderstandings on the association agreements. And
that's why we both agreed to pursue bilateral consultations
at expert level on the Eastern Partnership Association
agreements, and the economic consequences on both sides.
European Union is closely following the developments in
Ukraine and strongly condemns violence, we call for restraint
and those responsible have to be held to account. We want the
fundamental freedoms, such as the freedom of expression and
assembly preserved.
So I when I heard this report, I heard Eastern Partnership, and
that apparently, Putin had to come to Brussels because there
was some confusion about the interpretation. And this could
only mean one thing, that there's some agreement that
we're not aware of, that Putin is a part of, and lo and behold,
the Eastern Partnership, the European Union and Eastern
Europe, and I have the documents right here in the show notes.
The Eastern Partnership is a joint initiative involving the
European Union, EU member states and Armenia, Azerbaijan,
Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine. Now, if you look at all
these particular countries on the map, they have one very
specific thing in common.
They have a border with Russia, probably, yeah,
a border between Russia and the EU. So Belarus is interesting,
because Bella Rousses is right above Ukraine. And these are all
pipeline, I just call them pipeline states.
There's something there's also a GE, we have to always understand
the geopolitical aspect of this to pipeline. If you're Russia
sending stuff out and you have all these border countries.
Yeah, they're all going to be pipeline states because you
can't get there. or from here, you have to go through one of
these. Right. But Russia has traditionally since the 1700s.
And that's why the Soviet Union formed develop this, this method
of protecting itself, because the Europeans kept attacking
them, beginning of not beginning with, but even pre Napoleon. And
so they put, they put buffer states between the Mother
Russia, and the Europeans are always trying to grow in there.
I mean, even Napoleon tried it, Hitler tried it. And so they
feel they, they feel this need to have these, they don't want
to be bumped up against anything that's European, even though
there's culturally the Ukrainians are never going to be
very European, but they still date. So this is like a paranoid
thing that goes way beyond and goes a lot deeper than just
worrying about pipelines that they're freaky. Well, it's
there's an actual agreement, it's called the DC FTA. This is
what they were discussing in Brussels. And I have to tell you
that this is a lot of theatre. John, what's going on is in a
very clear European Union Ukraine agreement, it's called
deep and comprehensive free trade area, the DC FTA.
Well, what you might be implying that there is a an extortion
game going on here too, because obviously, if you're going to do
a deal with the Russians and includes all these other states,
these other states have to be part of that. Yeah. All of a
sudden be part of the EU.
No, no, but this isn't the this is the mistake. I think the we I
certainly was making and in believing that somehow Ukraine
was being asked to join the EU, nothing could be further from
the truth. The deep and comprehensive free trade area.
DCFTA is part of the association agreement between the EU and the
Republic of Ukraine. These Association agreements are what
this is not becoming part of the European Union. It is a free
trade agreement. Chapter one removed customs duties on
imports and exports.
Right. But it wasn't this separate from the deal done with
the Russians did which included the Ukrainian deal, no, this the
Ukrainians stopped this. I mean, the Russians stopped or somebody
or actually the president of the Ukraine suspended the
preparations for signing that agreement you're talking about
and why because Putin had to go to Brussels, because as you
heard the President just say, the interpretation of the
details was problematic. So they're hashing out some detail.
And Putin is a part of this. This whole thing and Ukraine is
just I'm, I'm totally believing now. That this is it is only
about one agreement, and it's about the numbers. And they just
both sides. Just start this crap in Ukraine, just to get everyone
to the table. And Putin did go to the table. He went to
Brussels to work on this deal specifically on this deal,
because we interpret
yours so you don't think if I'm not mistaken from your persona,
you don't think the State Department's behind all the bull
crap going on in the Yes,
I think the State Department is behind one half of the bull
crap. And I think the the Russian State Department is
behind the other half of the bull crap out let's look
at it. Let's look at our State Department aren't more
interesting than theirs. Let's hear that about the Ukrainian
using social media in much the same way. Although carries not
as good as how we do it. Man.
This is this is what we do.
This is what carries not as good as Hillary, at least his people
aren't as good as Hillary. So it's a little bit it's a little
slipshod,
he has no leadership. She can Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't lead
his PISA
what he's doing but let's play you, Ukraine, Twitter and catch
up with what's going on.
When we don't lay siege to administration, we lay siege to
Twitter. This tweet posted by Ukrainian web user sums up an
operation launched by anti government protesters on Monday,
and with the ongoing protests, which began over two months ago,
in and around kyiv's Independence Square, now dubbed
Euromaidan by demonstrators, the activists initiative called upon
supporters of the movement that world over to face tweets in
massive numbers to show support for the anti government
protesters in Ukraine and call for backing from the
international community. Online campaigning propelled the
digital maiden hashtag to number one position on Twitter, topping
worldwide trending topics.
Yeah, well, of course, what do we have to change it now? Is
there is there a particular icon I
haven't gotten that far, but digital made? in.com is kind of
the thing you want to look at and spelled with an
A right, Ma?
Ma? Ma N? Yeah. Dan actually refers to the square deaths in
the Ukraine. So we're now have a digital version, in other words,
a virtual version of this giant square. And so now we're having
the same thing that we saw when we had this little strife
between Georgia and Russia. We have a website.
I have a little a little interesting tidbit for you.
Regarding Ukraine chapter nine intellectual property there are
big problems with patents and geographical indications known
as G eyes. The protection will be immediate for most EU G eyes
this is brand brand names but some names long used by
Ukrainian producers will be phased out over different
periods of time. You ready for the names?
I'm all ears,
champagne, cognac, Madeira, Porto, Jerez, Sherry Calvados,
grappa, Ionis por tu GEZ, Armagnac, Marsala Malaga and
Toka. Those have 10 years to be phased out apparently the you
can't use those words.
Well for good reason and seven
years for bottom is Yano oregano Reggiano, or rock for and Fetta.
Kudu. Fetta is
a brand I didn't know about feta being a protected name. I had no
idea about that either. I wonder about that one. Because fat is
made into many countries, it's always called Federer. But the
other stuff is a trademark violation that they've been
fighting the champagne people in particular, they were fighting
because we used to use the word champagne on our sparkling
wines. And I think we still do in some instances, but it's not
champagne. Unless it comes from Champagne. The French are always
irked when they see some cheap plonk with the name champagne on
it was not champagne. It's just as bubbling wine.
The parties commit themselves to let market prices prevail on the
domestic gas and electricity markets and not to regulate
prices for industry. Neither party will impose prices for
exporting energy products which are higher than domestic prices.
As a part of the treaty, interrupting transit or taking
energy goods from transit that are destined for the other party
is prohibited. That's what this is about. It's about transit of
energy. And Putin just wants to make sure that that everything
works for him.
Well, they definitely want to get to Putin wants to keep Viet
Yanukovych. And the our State Department wants to get rid of
him. Because this side that digital made in sight is run by
a New York public relations company.
Which company is that?
You can go to it its website is go b w d.com gobwd.com? Yeah,
gobwd.com go be WD as they are the ones who own this website,
if you look into it, and they're the ones that are pushing the
digital made and thing and they've got some and it's a very
interesting company. They have a they are just an all purpose,
you know, international group. Yeah, good. Fine.
I like this a lot. Yeah. So
you convince so this so that's the State Department side of
things that has to be ordered. You know, it's possible the only
outside there's an outside chance because the guy is so
rich. That the boxer that's there.
Yeah, right. Right, right. Yeah, I
know what you mean. What's his name? What's their last name of
these two guys, their brothers and their guys is they're worth
millions and millions of dollars. And they can easily
cost you about 10 grand to work could be WD to put together
something and they they do a little better. I don't know if
they're doing a good job on purpose. And by making the
website look like it could be like a homegrown because it's
it's crappy looking digital made in sight, or they're just a
crappy operation. But their website is slick enough to make
me think that they specifically because if you remember the GA
sites that we looked at way too slick for a for a for a
grassroots thing. Well, they
also have here the Ukrainian Genocide awareness website which
is a charity organisation.
Yeah, that probably refers back to that Russian starvation thing
the Russians did do a bunch of country. Yes. Polo them right.
People need do need. It's like It's like the Armenians are
still irked about that,
by the way, progress of agreements according to the EU
Eastern Partnership. Ukraine was supposed to it says here if
conditions met Ukraine should have signed in 2013 a Georgia
and Moldova to initial in 2013. Azerbaijan, that's the big one
because that's where that's where they've got all of the all
of the the Baku you know that's where all the oil fields are the
gas field. That's huge. still negotiating the agreement
Armenia process disconnect Minute. And Belarus so far known
to get no negotiations, but I would say as with Ukraine the
way it is, if they don't work it out with Putin, I'd say Bella
Rousses on on deck next. I mean, they're just above Ukraine. It's
a it's a great, you know, it's just as good I'd say.
Yeah, I'm sure that'll happen to we're in pretty good. So Vitaly
Klitschko, who is the guy who's always given the speeches, and
he's in the Ukraine. And he was actually meeting with the with
the head guide, couple days ago, he has a net worth of $65
million, which goes a long way to, you know, doing some some
damage in a country like to Ukraine. So it's not that
you can get a lot of hours from a PR company. And that's for
sure. Yeah. What else you got from Ukraine.
The other part is just the second half of the Twitter
stuff. That's what kind of triggered the whole thing.
There's obvious our State Department if this Vitaly is not
doing the whole thing himself. We've got to be in on this.
Let me play the second bit see what's in there. A purpose built
website had a list of pre written tweets cyber activists
can use to target international media outlets, for example, and
urge them to investigate suspicions that Moscow sent
troops to Russia to help Kyiv suppress the unrest. Other
tweets reached out to Western political leaders such as Barack
Obama or David Cameron, urging them to impose sanctions on
Ukraine in response to the continued use of violence
against protesters. This YouTube video has been relaying a
similar message. It features activists asking web users from
across the globe to lobby their political representatives and
ask them to take targeted measures against the Ukrainian
authorities.
Obviously, it's,
there was there's some funny videos coming out of there.
There was one about a week ago, where Vitaly Klitschko they
would write rioting a little too much at the moment. And so he's
standing in front of some bus with his microphone telling him
to calm down. And some guy I guess he had a fire extinguisher
and it was the powders. Just let the entire extinguisher go on to
cover him. Cool.
Have you back off? Have you ever unloaded a powder fire
extinguisher?
I've sprayed one
once. My god that's fun.
It's a lot of stuff in there.
It never ends.
Yeah. I remember one time I decided store I was working for
Ford Motor Company was there. So there was a there was a small
fire that had broken out on top of one of the paint booths. And
it was just a little fire and was just starting to go. And
some guys freaked out. He grabs one of these things. One of the
powder ones and he pulls the trigger on it and there was just
had nothing in Oh really? Oh man. I'm wondering how many do
we found when that finally worked. But it was like
wondering how many dead fire extinguishers are all over the
place to give you a sense of confidence. They
have an absolute shelf life. As part of my when I had the
aircraft when I had the Cessna, you have to have a fire
extinguisher on board and it has to be replaced I think is
probably every year. It has it has a date on it. And it's done.
And you got to get rid of it got to get a new one.
Well, or you have to have it reloaded depending I have one. I
have one of the giant huge The thing is almost 100 pounds, co2
fire extinguisher that came off of a Liberty ship that was being
destroyed, you know, chopped up in Richmond. And they had all
these fire extinguishers outside and they were just you wanted
one, you could just take it. And so I took it and this thing,
just thing it just put down on a house fire. But it also has to
be looked at or refilled every so often does. Have you heard
this, these reports from the UK about people not being able to
access their money at HSBC. Yeah,
yeah, it's all over the place. There's been two or three
stories and most of them the one that goes to the agenda,
mainstream media in the US goes like this guy goes in and then
this is the right wing radio guys using this when the guy
goes in to age SBC, and he says I want to take out $10,000 And
then they start grilling and why you want the money. Because my
mother I owe $10,000 And I want to pay it back to her. I don't
know why doesn't write her a check, but okay. And the guy
says no, it's well,
this is UK. They don't have checks. He but he wants it. That
would make sense. He wants to take it out cash and then give
it cash. It's about the cash. It's about actually taking.
He can't do it. He says What can I take out so they can't tell
you? Well, okay, I want to take out 5000 No, I can't take a
Flettner Oh, says okay, I want to take a four No, three, can I
take out three? Yeah, you can take out three, well, can I come
back in 10 minutes and take out another three says no, it's
three a day. That's the that's the story as it's been floating
around hand to mouth, but this
by the way will happen to you in America too. If you if you go to
a bank and say I want to take out you know, if you have it, if
you say I want to take out $10,000 or $20,000, you will get
you will they will not say Oh, here you go, sir. You will, the
manager will come out will talk to you about it. And the reason
is that is fractional banking. Because 10,000, you can multiply
that times I think it's 100 times 90 or something not
the only reason. Well, there's, it's a big, you can finish this,
but there's a there's a lot of scammers that have been ripping
off old ladies, for example. Sure. And they always demand
that the old lady go to the this has been well documented, they
go to the bank to take some of their savings out to give to the
scammer because he's going to fix the roof or whatever. And
the bank will grill the old lady about this. And then they find
out who this is this is going to get the money and then they'll
call the police. So it's not just fractional banking, that's
an issue here.
Okay. So you're saying that if you go to the bank, and this
happens to you, that is because your bank is protecting you?
Because there might be you know, you're an old guy, and you know,
gee, we have to really be careful because someone could be
tricking John, is that it?
Yeah. Okay. But I think I can walk into the mechanics bank
tomorrow and take $10,000 out in cash. Put it back if I want to
or not without anybody saying anything.
Okay. I've heard these stories happening all over. And yeah,
I'm sure there's a part of that. But if you if you know,
I know these banks are there, they don't have any money. Well,
yeah, they probably that would 10,000 was all they have. That
often
is the case that that's all they have on hand in the actual bank
is maybe 10 grand in cash. That's funny. Why I mean, so of
course this is being played in the alternative media as bank
run, collapsing. I don't think that's going to happen.
Ya know, that. This being played funny, I have to agree. But it's
this story is interesting,
but more interesting is the bankers who are killing
themselves, suiciding themselves. We have the JP
Morgan executive who plunged to his death. Oh, 33 stories. Oops.
Always love that.
Oh, I missed that. Yeah.
That's a great one. Yeah, yeah, there's the end. So see, we will
see a 39 year old JP Morgan bank executive died this morning if
you jumped while he only jumped 500 feet from the top of the
banks European headquarters. What is a 33 storey skyscraper
which is mentioned casually ad nauseam, got to get the 33 in
there. Two days earlier, fellow American Banker banker was found
hanging in his South Kensington home who still kills themselves
by hanging this and this also is the way that this assistant to
Lamar Alexander killed himself. Yeah, hanging my hanging. I
looked into this because this pedo bear stuff is always
interesting. I looked into the actual complaint slash
indictments Yeah, he left a letter he which is published
this guy's name is Jesse Ryan last carne. Last carne. And so
there's no website Jesse Jesse Ryan lost Carnes last
message.com wherein he, his parents have handed over
apparently a letter not a suicide note but a a note of him
apologising and then saying that he was abused and how you know
how this led up to his interest in child pornography. But if you
look at the actual the actual documentation there's something
very sketchy about this what what happened is key downloaded
two movies. Both which involved very young female children very
graphic by the way that the description in the in the police
documents, which actually it's the postal Fraud Unit. And so we
downloaded these two, two movies, this is all that it's
about two movies, and they were made available from his IP
address on Nutella. And that's what they busted him on. They
came to his house. The claim is that he put a A removable hard
drive on the roof or outside the window, which they then
retrieved. And of course, we don't really know if they that
could be placed there, which is that's the way it's written into
this because outside Yeah, it's very sketchy heat, the guy never
admitted that he placed it there. And on that drive word,
these two movies and this entire thing is based upon these two
videos on some dubious hard disk that seems to be outside. Yes.
That's the easily retrievable, that's it not just outside but
outside where they get
outside on the outside the window where they when they got
it from outside. And they claim they saw him place it there,
which, you know, of course, why would you do that? Exactly. So
it's the whole thing is rather sketchy. And the fact that he
you know, you know, the trial was coming up, it happened in
December the trial supposed to be in February? It's, yeah,
child pornography is a huge problem. But for them to track
down these two movies. And I'm not quite sure. What, how this
came about. You know, it's like, do we have is the mail postal
fraud service, just tracking Nutella IP addresses? You know,
this is very unclear to me. And I would say that this looks like
it's a part of something much, much, much, much bigger, that he
may have been involved in.
I know something about Yeah, it was one thing
for sure. If you want to look at child trafficking and child
pornography, and child abuse, Washington, DC and surrounding
areas, pretty good place to go. And I have a couple links in the
show notes. Space specifically about DC the DC area and it's
it's, it's, it's out of control. We'll never know. Of course,
we'll never know exactly what's going on.
We'll never know it's no 33 involved, apparently. No, I
couldn't find a 33 Wow. So I picked up a bunch of interesting
little sub clips from the hearings, different hearings,
and
by different douchebags now there's some of it, some are
just laced with really interesting information that we
don't normally know about it. I would like to push a couple of
those out. In does Durbin, who's I don't know what he was trying
to prove. But he decided to reveal all kinds of statistics
and facts that I thought was quite interesting. This is the
facts and figures of the federal prison system.
But we talked about a federal prison population.
That is actually that that's the facts and figures from that this
is Leahy, we can skip that for now. When it gets to this other
one, where is the federal is the Charlie Rose drones within the
well played here play this one. This is another one of these.
This is uh, this was the one that talks about drones within
the US. And this is I think, is
Leahy and uses from which senatorial thesis from the
Justice Department oversight committee.
What plans? Does justice private have to use? Drones within the
US for law enforcement purposes? And, and what kind of safeguards
are being developed by the Orwellian aspect of them, I find
very chilling.
With regard to these use of these unmanned aerial systems at
this point, the only component within the department that is
using them in an operational way is the FBI. And I think we have
to understand that they if used appropriately, they can
determine purpose. This holder does that a lot when he's lying.
If you remember the young child who was held hostage in a
tunnel, I think it was in Georgia or Alabama someplace.
No, I don't remember that. Do you remember that? No, I don't
remember this at all.
Use was made of a drone in that case and proved decisive in
resolving that situation in a good way. The inspector general
in the Justice Department has recommended that we come up with
a uniform system of rules and regulations within the
department to control how these these devices are used. And that
is something that I support and something that we will be
developing and that I'd like to work with you on the government
and I think other members of the committee on both sides
can stop that clip. I just I'll summarise we're getting drones.
Yeah. And currently the US Customs has grounded their drone
fleet after they had to crash a drone off the off the coast
there in California.
I think these things are hackable.
Now they're not just hackable, it's just it's in general. It's
just not a great idea. Just not a great It's good to have
airman.
Yeah, well, those days are gonna be over there as you predicted.
Oh yeah, they're not okay. Now
here's dirt. This is the clip. This is the one that's got the
facts and figures. It's kind of interesting. This is Gitmo facts
and figures.
But we talked about a federal prison population. This is
somebody who concerns, facts and
figures. I'm sorry.
I thought you were setting it up differently. Here's Gitmo facts
and figures.
wheels of justice question number two 155 detainees remain
at Guantanamo. I want to say for the record, this has been the
subject of a lengthy debate here in Congress, the President made
his intentions clear when elected to close Guantanamo. And
yet resistance in Congress has thwarted him from accomplishing
that. For those who want an establishment of the record,
over 500 people had been convicted of terrorism and
terrorism related crimes through our judicial process since 911.
in federal courts, in contrast, there have been six convictions
and one plea agreement from Guantanamo's military
commissions. Two of those commission convictions have been
overturned, the most dangerous terrorists who've been convicted
through our judicial system reside in our prison system, and
the worst of the worst in maximum security. We spend, on
average $78,000 A year and facilities like Florence,
Colorado, maximum security to hold the most dangerous
criminals in America, including the most dangerous terrorists,
and there has never ever, ever been an escape or question that
they would escape. We are spending for the 155 detainees
in Guantanamo, on average, not $78,000, a year $2.7 million a
year per detainee. It is an outrageous waste of taxpayers
dollars. Can
I Can is it not so that the President can just use his phone
and his pen and just close it
with that if you that clip that you had last week or last show?
Yeah, where it's what he said he was going to do is gonna use an
executive order to close it. Why doesn't
he just do this now?
Well, you that you tell me
that we were going to start a process to start reviewing the
155 detainees, in the hopes that we could dispose of some
dismissed some transfer some. It took a long time to get started.
The wheels of justice, unfortunately, went very slowly.
The president issued an executive order in March of
2011. The first periodic review board hearing at Guantanamo took
place in November of last year. And earlier this month, the
board recommended the transfer of the first detainee in
question. The second periodic review board hearing occurred
yesterday. I'm glad to hear this progress has been made. But with
155 detainees, 71 of whom are eligible for evaluation. As
Attorney General we can't live long enough to go through this
process at $2.7 million a year, hurt Guantanamo detainee.
Hold on. I just heard that the President issued an executive
order in November 2011. Is that Is that not what he said?
Yeah. I have the executive order was to review the cases
review and disposition of individuals detained at the
Guantanamo Bay naval base and disclosure of detention
facilities. Okay. It's just a review. Yeah.
He isn't then crap. What
a push the EO, that's pussy.
Did you notice that one little phrase at the Durban uses in
there, he says we're, we need to review him. So we can either
move them or dispose of this.
I did hear that it's disposition. And the root word
is dispose. No, he
didn't say disposition. He said dispose. I know. But
if he's saying it as based upon disposition, I think he did. I
think disposition did come up somewhere. Maybe both of them
Executive Order review and disposition of individuals. So I
can totally see where a douchebag like this would say
yeah, that's the same as dispose of which is what's going to
happen to all citizens of Gitmo nation eventually.
They're gonna just dispose just just dispose of Yeah, one of the
things when you watch a lot of these, these hearings is you
catch a little this little, just some little needling that goes
on, which I always think is the best part of these things. And I
caught one. Oh, and this is a needling that goes that went on
between Durbin Grassley and I believe Leahy and this is the
clip as though WTF Grassley amendment clip I don't even know
this happened. But apparently Grassley passed an amendment to
make it so that the Congress, it gets to be in the same boat as
everyone else with Obamacare,
and the amount that you have. And I compliment you on that.
Senator Durbin.
Thanks a lot. Mr. Chairman. I just want to say for the record,
it was the Grassley amendment that brought us into this world
in terms of bringing members of Congress and their staff into
the Affordable Care Act, which we're now under and if it was
not complete, when it came to any kickback and such, then we
certainly want to make sure that it is I would like to
didn't know that. Why do you have to tell you about every I
think every every staff, every staff member, every staff member
in the Congress are now paying considerably more for their
health care dole than it is to Grassley amendment.
As Chairman, if Haha,
that's hilarious. Now you think the right wing radio guys would
pick up on this? I just like everybody's paying a lot more
because because of Obamacare, I just thought it was hilarious.
And then of course, they give it the needle to Grassley, who is
defending himself there instead of you know, they got a hearing
going on, but they have to bitch at each other. The last one I
have is the facts and figures for the federal prison system,
which also has a little stat in it that I thought was
interesting.
We talked about a federal prison population. This is somebody who
concerned too many of us here. It's grown by more than 500% in
the last 30 years. And that's money that you have money that
can't be used to hire more prosecutors or agents or
providing assistance to state and local law enforcement. In
fact, the Inspector General said the bureau public Bureau
president's budget, is that the top of his list of management
challenges for the department, the top of the list, what? What
is this increasing prison population doing to your other
priorities?
Well, the budget now, the Bureau of Prisons budget takes up
roughly a third of the Justice Department's entire budget and
it priek Wow, doing a variety of other things that I know members
of this committee are interested in. And
as it ended, I had no idea that the federal prison system took a
third of the Justice Department's budget. Yeah.
It's a bonanza.
Yes, bonanza for these private companies that are exploiting
these taxpayers dime. And yeah, well,
and, and your point would be, yeah,
I said, we take a little break words have been a very long
looks like it's gonna be a long show. Regardless, we were very
late with our executive and Associate Executive producers
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I'm going to show my move by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all
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I'm a risk taker. I'm a risk taker. Turkey for a moment. I've
been calling around to some sources to figure out what's
happening. The Gulin Petula Gulin This is the imam who lives
in as they call him. I love that how the mainstream media calls
him the moderate imam who lives in self imposed exile in
Pennsylvania. All right, hold on a second. I just need bullshit,
right? That the CIA helped him get his paperwork. He lives in a
compound. And for the first time in 16 years, he did an interview
with
me this is the clip of the day already.
Well, I it wasn't worth clipping. Oh, I hate to say it.
It really it really just wasn't. And of course he speaks in
Arabic. And so I have no idea if the translation is proper. And
it was done for the BBC. And I think the fact that he did the
interview was more interesting
lead up to this dud.
dud, it's not a dud. There's a there's a lot going on with the
with Turkey right now mainly, that the the Turkish central
bank intervened popped up interest rates to 12%. Because
the Turkish lira was tanking against the dollar. It blew
everything back up. And as of yesterday, the lira is now even
lower than it was before. So it appears their mission has
failed. But what I have learned from sources, the reason for the
intervention from the his met or the Gulenist is that Erawan was
moving too fast with the Islamification and Gulin wants
to slow it all down and probably working with the CIA slash State
Department slash Treasury whatever, launched a obviously
there was an internal attack, but the financial attack may
have been a part of it. To bring everyone down a bit to make him
perhaps even some of his buddies may lose in the local elections
coming up in March. But that's what the rift appears to be from
the Gulin side is that Erawan This has always been the plan
we've always had the plan was always to bring to Islam of phi
Turkey and spread out to Europe and Gulin things no one was
going to fast. Pa now and that comes from
in that fast to me the this whole still stems from him
wanting to level that one park and put it in a big mall.
That well that's where it started. Yeah, yeah. We
always forget that that one moment. And then it just kind of
started to mushroom and then our State Department I've worked one
of some buddy, probably us just I had to rub put the rubble of
patrol in
the rubble. But I think I think that's still the best, the best
strategy Rob allies at all,
yeah, verbalise it, and then you could, you know, sell them some
construction work,
or the president's going to Jordan pretty soon. Of course,
we have a 10s of 1000s of troops.
Jordan is right, right near Syria, for those of you who
don't have a map, or don't care to look at the map. And they'd
been doing all kinds of practice drills for Syria. So I wonder
what if that is going to have some kind of effect on the Syria
situation? As the President Obama will meet with King
Abdullah the second? I'm not quite sure what that means.
It's a good meal.
Yeah. Well, we're just not qualified to understand.
Good meals. Probably some decent wine. Maybe I do
have a question for you. Sunday is the Superbowl. Yeah, as as we
think. Well, there you go. As we know, I never watched sports
although I do have Winter Olympic fever
i Okay. Oh, that's right. We already talked about this. I
won't go into it again. You like skating?
Yeah, like ice skating and even curling there's some hot women
in curling, by the way.
Yeah, I know those two Canadian sisters from pretty good.
So we have the Super Bowl traditionally, we are able to
call these all these games are rigged. The fix is in is the
heading in the show notes. For those of you who wonder about
it, we've we've called many many events properly even World Cup
soccer. And nailed it. And now we Yes, we are after year after
year. Now we have an interesting combination of things. We have
watch Washington, Seattle, Washington and we have Colorado
Denver, Colorado. Both we states where marijuana has recently
been legalised right. That's not a factor that I don't I think
that cancels each other out because of course we believe
that the The team that wins is the one that needs the most
based upon economics or some kind of vibe they need to prop
them up. Yeah, yeah. Now there's a couple of things that are
interesting here of course Colorado had the flooding in
Colorado had has a shoot all the shootings are unconscious
shootings,
mass shootings, flooding. Now this game
is going to be played in New Jersey. Yeah, I was just
thinking you know, we have six weeks and everything I know you
think that nothing should happen with a sporting event? But if if
we could do anything to screw up Chris Christie even better? I
mean, this would be the moment it figure
he's already on the ropes. I don't think there's anything
left in Yeah, he's done for a while.
So I'm gonna make a comeback. So I'm not sure exactly why but I
have a feeling Seattle's going to win. And I don't I can't
really explain why
doesn't fit into any of I know, this fits into none of our
models. I
know. This is my problem. This is why I feel weighed thinking
they're gonna win. I don't know.
There must be some reason for them to win.
Why?
What's wrong with Denver? No, not. John. I'm only saying I
have a weird feeling.
Okay, well, you so you're going with an instinct, you believe
they're gonna win from some for some instinctual reason?
Well, I can, the only thing I can I can think of is Colorado's
had enough exposure, and we need to focus on Seattle for some
reason. I just I can't put my finger on why,
yeah, I would go with a
regular model, we just stick with the models. That way we
should, I would stick
with a model. That means that Denver for a number of reasons.
And then there's a lot of football reasons to back it up.
There's a sympathy vote for for EA for Peyton Manning, he should
wait because he came back from a broken neck and he's playing
football again. And they're in a lot of operations. And he's back
on track. They also have they there's excuses for them too,
when, for example, they train and operate out of Denver, which
is a mile high, which means you're more oxygenated down in
New York would be coming in from Seattle. And this just seems to
be a lot more karmic stuff going on for the Broncos as opposed to
the Seattle team, which has a blowhard guy, this guy's blew up
on the camera, and it's just I'm sticking with the formula. I'm
just going with the well, but then for that reason,
could there be any other way to put Seattle into the formula? Is
Alan is the owner of the team?
Is there a Gates Foundation connection may be something that
has to happen in Seattle. Is there a reason that Seattle
should be focused on AI I couldn't come up with it. But I
reserved
anything Seattle has no chance to win this game if we're going
to base it on our model.
I feel I'm missing something with Seattle. I really feel
oh, you got like a few minutes to figure it out. Because we're
not well, you could do it on the on the Sunday morning show
because this game starts late okay. No, I I got now until
Sunday morning to come up with the rationale that would give
you Seattle, Seattle victory in a big game like
well, you know what anything could happen between now and
Sunday. Yeah, anything could happen so maybe that's what I'm
feeling maybe something still has to happen in Seattle. That
makes us feel sorry for them
it's raining there. It's always raining there Yeah, I don't see
it. I just don't see it and I just stick with their model
which always is never failed.
Yeah, no, I'm sticking with the model. I'm just trying to I
don't think I feel like we're missing something with Seattle.
I just don't I can't put my I can't put my Google in
Seattle and the word disaster
let's do a different Seattle sad you do disaster I'll do sad let
me see huh no, no no, I don't think I have anything you I
think on disaster
coming up now. Office of a no prepare it Nope. It looks as
though there's no the only thing that could happen is a volcano
or an earthquake or a tsunami.
Let's do Seattle bad news. Let me see what bad news brings us
there's not a lot of bad news coming out it just isn't it's
just bad news we'll be them losing the game and bad news
that read
that fits right in the model doesn't it? I don't know I'm
okay I want to stick with the model I just I don't think we've
done enough of the due diligence for some reason I probably wrong
bad news didn't sell the Seahawks attitudes. Bass from
the bad news is a band I guess played there something
gas price gas prices is seem to have been exploding as in
natural gas as in went up
a nickel or something like that. I thought it went up higher than
that went up 5% Maybe my thinking is five some? No. When
I finally get there, you know finally that it's been depressed
so long. It's about time it went up and the
president of course, talked about it as well. Um, then we
have in the Bitcoin department very funny. The easy the the
vice chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation, Charlie Shrem, CEO
of the bit instant arrested for money laundering. Oh, yeah. You
didn't hear this.
I didn't see that come in.
It's kind of interesting, because the way the the Reddit
is playing it, the Reddit communities like this is this is
just to scare people away. It's bullcrap. And so now if you read
the indictment, the guy actually, you know, was helping
one of his customers literally launder money.
Hey, if HSBC can do it, I can do it now. Well, there's that.
Well, you also have to make sure to note that some people are
given the go ahead to do it. And you're not correct. That's
totally correct. I got some interesting news. I thought it
was kind of at least stunned me. Was the wine sales in China have
now surpassed France?
Oh, my goodness. No. And finally, do you like your wine?
If so this is one for you. And the Chinese have stolen rather
an important title, haven't they? From the French? Yes, this
according to a survey from the wine and spirits Association.
Vinexpo. They say that China has overtaken France as the world's
number one consumer of red wine. Their research found that
Chinese drank almost 1.9 billion bottles of red wine last year,
that's up over 130% in the past five years. It does though, put
France in second place, Italy in third. As an expert says it's
down to both the increased wealth on the part of the
Chinese, but also a preference for the colour red because in
Chinese culture, it's the colour of good luck and good fortune,
which explains why red wine sounds better than white.
really explain anything? Let me know who does not go with with
with European style wines. I don't know how this is this is
even possible.
You're the expert.
Just saying.
Just saying is just not an acceptable thing to say.
I'm not gonna say that anymore. Okay.
Unless you say Moreover, I
will say let me say this about that. Okay. I believe that the
Chinese just don't even drink this wine. They just buy it.
They've been on a buying binge. But I've been to China. I've
never had wine with Chinese ever where they go to Chinatown. And
people drink beer with their food.
Are they just collecting it? Maybe?
I don't know what they're doing.
From Criminal Minds a show I've never watched but many of our
producers do. This is a nice little ditty about the flu shot.
Not as amazing as you pretty amazing. I started with an SQL
injection that sort of be dealing with download a patch to
fight it off, but it's the patch that contains a Trojan horse
like taking the flu shot filled with cancer. Exactly, exactly.
Taking a flu shot filled with cancer
and we have that flu shot from Baxter some time back or a flu
shot filled with birds.
Yeah, they were mixing it up. I just love how they just slip
that in there. What audience are you going after? Oh, no. I like
it. I like it.
Oh crap, I got some bullcrap to follow that with. This is
Schumer on the shield law and wise, you know, it's not quite
getting to where they want it to go. This is the meat shield law
withhold or scripted
the media shield law, which is it's called the free flow of
information act to be exactly the department's revised
guidelines governing the obtaining of evidence from
members of the news media are a step in the right direction.
However, they haven't been finalised and it's more than six
months after the department sent its report to the President.
When will the revised guidelines be finalised in the Code of
Federal Regulations?
When will they go into effect?
I would expect that we would have them available for comment
within the next couple of weeks. I had actually hoped that we
would have them done by this hearing. There was a little
glitch towards the end, but I think we'll get through that.
And then we will have them available for public work.
So the website wasn't working with me.
Within weeks, I will say that, in spite of the fact that they
are not yet issued, we are working. Wow, Mr performative
here under them as if they were in place. And we are also
a home, I gotta back this up. How to lie in, in Congress at
101 say that,
in spite of the fact that they are not yet issued. We are
working under them as if they were in place. And we are Oh,
hold on a second. He's working as if they were already in
place. That's interesting. Also looking
to two people the board that we're putting together as
a board, pull the board. Write that down. I've got to people
the board. Oh, which board? Is this? The media shield board of
the review process? Mr. Fallon has been working on that. Oh,
Jimmy
Fallon is going to be on the people board. Nice. Well, then
it's in good hands. Right. Who's Mr. Fallon? Who's Mr. Fallon?
Some guy this works for? I don't know.
Let's see media shield board.
He's like to get to be he's the guy picking the names for the
bill. One of the boards. There's two boards. And he talked about
I didn't realise there were two of them. I didn't know this.
Either. One of two is a bunch of local stooges and the other one
supposed to be taken from industry.
Oh, that's right. No, we knew we know this. We know this. Okay.
So that means it's actually happening. This is really going
to happen. Congress shall make a law impeding the the infringing
on the freedom of the press. Yeah. Actually going to make a
law. This is great.
Yeah, it's against the constitution, but they're gonna
do it anyway. Yeah. Well, that's good, because
we have a couple more weeks left than before they people the
board. Once the board has people, John, it's all over.
Well, it's been all over for a while. It's just now it's more
official.
Yeah. Well, luckily, I can work for you. When you have your
licence.
Yeah, it's a process. I'll get my licence. It's going to take a
while. Probably take some classes. Probably had to take
some seminars. I probably had to be checked in every I've had to
Doc, I have to be tested for drugs. Yes. And psychological
evaluation. Yeah. And I had to pass some sort of a test that
shows have you loyal to the government? Yeah, I licence.
I'll be good. You're
flying colours. I predict flying colours. No problem. All right,
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