squirrels are winning the cyber war. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, June 15 2014. It's time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode six tos.
This is no agenda,
celebrating joint resolution of Congress approved April 24 1972,
as amended 36 US Code 109 and coming to you from the Capitol,
the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from
Northern Silicon Valley where I'm contemplating the question
as a bear crap in the woods. It's Father's Day. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
That is indeed joint resolution of Congress April 24 1972. It's
law.
That what bears crap it
in the woods? No, Father's Day?
No, only in the United States. I'm told by an Australian who is
irked by my last little newsletter.
Oh, you mean? Oh, really? Father's Day is different in
other parts of the world?
Yes. If you look it up on the wiki, you see every place has
its own day.
Ah, it's funny. I know that Mother's Day is different around
the world as well. Yeah, even Belgium and the Netherlands,
which are adjacent countries who share some common language.
Father's Day in the United States began in Seattle in 1909
is another manufactured holiday, but there's nothing you can do
about it. Well, I have your 100 years old,
I have the Presidential Proclamation. But even 100 years
old.
It's only 100 years old. No. in the United States.
No,
look up the wiki.
I'm looking at the president. Do you believe that wiki pedia or
the President of the United States
Wikipedia.
Therefore, I BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA in accordance with a joint resolution of the Congress
approved April 24 1972. As amended, US Code 36 section 109
do hereby proclaim June 15 2014 as Father's Day. So this
apparently was only made official in April of 1972.
Well, you know, I remember when I was a kid. Yeah, here we go.
They had father's days before 1972. I think it's been really
made re official. Or maybe it was just a Hallmark holiday.
And maybe that's what the Hallmark was founded. Does that
possible?
No, no. This actually began in Seattle in 1909 is some sort of
a local thing. Really? Let me read. Let me see if I can find
it. Father's Day was founded in Spokane, Washington at the YMCA
I'm sorry, in 1910. Oh, by Sonora smart dog who was born in
Arkansas, its first celebration was in the Spokane YMCA June
19 1910. Her father, the Civil War veteran William Stuart smart
was a single parent who raised six children. After hearing a
sermon about Jarvis, his mother's day in 1909. She told
her pastor, the father should have a similar holiday. Hell
yeah. Although she initially suggested June 5, her father's
birthday, conflict of interest. The pastors did not have enough
time to prepare their sermons and the celebration was deferred
to the third Sunday of June.
So Father's Day is in the Netherlands is today. Oh, is it
now? Yeah, but I haven't heard anything. So maybe she just
hates me. As posh as possible.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't surprise me. Oh, thanks. I just
kidding. It's just a light hearted show. I bet. You know,
from some guy saying that a lot of our listeners are getting
depressed by the news. Did you see that note? No. Yeah, some
guy says, Well, you know, I, you know, like, we got a lot of
donors, because I sent out a plea for more more donations
that because our last show was so terrible. And we got it and
everybody picked up the slack. And I really appreciate that we
both do. But somebody sent a notice and said that they run
into other no agenda listeners just casually because there's
actually quite a few of them in the country. And a lot of them
said they Well, you know, this is good. They're getting
depressed by the show. And I said, well, and I told the guy
so we try to keep it light. And it's supposed to be your you
know, the lighting that you get from an understanding how this
operates, how the news cycle works, and how we're being duped
is not supposed to depress you. It's supposed to give you the
you know, the ability to to get through it. Let me self is
depressing.
Well, yes. Before we had this something that I just got to
talk about just for a second before we move anywhere.
Thursday, we had a show, and after the show, I uploaded
everything boom, got everything published, jumped in the car,
and drove up to Dallas. Now do you recall what you did on the
show Thursday?
I had Clip of the Day.
Do you remember that you would you do you remember the title of
the show?
The title of this show Yeah, well, no I don't offhand
touching the stick. Yeah, touching the stick. This was the
title and because
I told you not, I told you not to do it. Oh, yeah. Do you
realize that we had for the first time that I certainly I
can remember but in a long time anyone can remember tornado
warnings in Austin.
It was a don't blame the stick, blame global warming.
I was driving, I was ahead of the storm as I was driving up to
Dallas, but Mickey was like oh my god, he kept my head me Of
course, I had all of my, my amateur radio equipment on board
and all the guys were talking about the storms, the skies, the
sky warranty, and
now with the 240 foot antennas, makes you look like a storm
tracker.
So I definitely have to talk about ham comm. But let me tell
you, I my antennas is nothing compared to what I saw. And in
Plano, oh, the guys who like complete Ghostbusters outfits.
It's completely not.
Yeah, enthusiasts.
I want to talk about that in a minute. But it's a couple things
you got to take care of. First of all, you sent out a
newsletter, which was a real call to action for our
producers. And you and I think both are now realizing that this
podcast feed issue is a bigger problem than than we thought.
And it needs to be discussed, again, for a number of reasons.
One, because it is a real problem with the cloud, or the
centralized services model that we've all become so accustomed
to. And also really,
it's I have been one of the few people to fight against. Yes.
Also the app culture. What is exactly. So just to reiterate
briefly, I think two years ago, we changed our podcast feed, we
we mentioned it several times on the show, we've always had the
new feed on the homepage of all all web pages where we have the
show available, told people to change, you know, check your
feeds, etc. And then put what is known as a 301 redirect on the
feed for me veoh.com. And this is an internet standard is
nothing complicated. And I think most technologists understand
that this is you implement these and certainly with web
applications, you implement a certain protocol, if you see a
301 redirect from anything from webpage or from an RSS feed. It
is supposed to tell your application Oh, this is this
feed has changed. Here's the new feed and you should no longer
use the old one. It doesn't it has an RFC number and
everything. It's a very standard, particularly with XML
feeds. But you have this app culture. And there's a couple
things with with that. One is all these podcast apps, think
they their added their unique selling proposition is their
directory and their ease of subscribing. Well, I think in
pretty much all cases it blows up because what they've done is
they've imported a database or they've created themselves or I
think, in our case, people have submitted our feed maybe to
their favorite app. And so there's three or four different
versions. But one thing's for sure, and a lot of these big
podcast apps, they do not recognize the simple 301
redirect command. And when as we expected and why we had done
this two years ago when the MVNO feed finally shut off. It broke
a lot of these apps. And yeah, two years. Yeah. So. And here's
an example. I came home yesterday and hadn't actually
told Mickey about this, although I think she saw the tweet. But
not everyone really cares about the underlying technology like
you and I may. And she was talking about the market. She
went on Saturday, of course, I was at ham calm. And she says,
Oh, man, Farmer Chris was freaking out. And he was wrong.
And a farmer Chris, if you want the best eggs in the world, you
go to Farmer Chris, if you want onions that he plans at the
certain moon cycle, you go to Farmer Chris, if you want to
troubleshoot your smartphone, you do not go to Farmer Chris.
So he has an Android smartphone. And he was coming he was like,
Oh Mickey I'm I'm so I'm so upset. I couldn't listen to the
show because I think my my memory is full or something. But
But see, this is it, you know, so there's no proper warning,
whatever it is, and he and I say oh my god, he has exactly the
problem. And so Mickey texted him and he was using Stitcher.
Now Stitcher is one of these apps. I think certainly in the
Android world, a lot of people use and the thing that really
bugs me about them not changing To feed and I believe it's still
broken to this at this point is this is the company that gives
away a free app, and inserts audio advertising before every
podcast. If you think if you press pause and you press play
again, you get another ad. So they're essentially putting ads
into our show to subsidize the not so stellar work, I would say
now of their of their application. And a lot of people
use this, I don't know how many. But looking at where we were
with our donations, past show and the show before that, I
think we can easily deduce that this has been a real problem for
us. And this is not the only example. And so I wrote a piece
and I said, Please, you know, reach out to your your app
developers, I don't know if people I know some people have
done it.
But let me let me mention this little thing. Let me interrupt
you for a second. producer Andy writes in to me, he just CC me a
note he sent to this company that does slap dash pro slap
dash being an appropriate word for the product, I use your
premium version of slap dash Pro on Windows 8.1, trying to add
the feed manually, which you shouldn't be able to do on any
of these, he does not work and it gives no option but to match
the wrong feed. Yeah.
Sort of sort of wonder helm uses Bing cast, which is a window,
which is also a Windows app. And it has he says it has three
incorrect feeds in there. You can you can add manually. But of
course on a Windows phone, you have to copy paste a feed is not
the easiest thing in the world. And he sent an email to the you
know, the feedback link on the on the app and it immediately
bounced, you know, doesn't work. But thank you. But so here's a
snarky note that I got from Scott Olson. And he responded to
your newsletter, he quotes your newsletter, it's possible that
we've lost some of our audience due to the fact that too many of
the early listeners were not paying attention and remained on
a media RSS feed that we left two years ago, it continued to
work until last week, but suddenly shut down for good.
Were they were they the only ones becoming executive
producers? And so Scott says, yeah, that's all fine and good.
But it's all but it's you all that need to resubmit the
working link to the services to reach your audience. We can't do
that for you. It's your business model. It affects No, no, no, I
never submitted our feed to anything except iTunes. And I
did submit the new feed to iTunes, no, I made that change.
You're correct. I
don't know where he's coming from. But most of these feeds
are put in by listeners, not by the show's themselves. I didn't
even know half these things existed. But bash, I'd
never heard of that either. Ever heard of it. But so here, it's
very obvious that either you have a true Central, an open
source central repository that everybody uses, or you keep it
completely distributed, which I think that's still kind of a
better way to go. He's like, Oh, here's a feed I want. Click Link
put it in. But you get all of these centralized services. And
this is the result. And they have no process. Me come on
Stitcher, there, Lou losing their own revenue, by not having
our show available for playing. So what kind of business is
this, that they don't know that something's broke? They don't,
they don't recognize it, they don't see it. So the centralized
thing is bad. It just doesn't work. And particularly when it
comes to apps, and I'm what I'm most afraid of is a lot of these
apps, they may not even have a way to access an external feed
database, they may have to do an app update for all I know, can
you imagine that?
So it's a pathetic situation. And especially when it comes to
podcasting, I want to make sure everyone out there whoever
thinks about maybe someday doing a podcast to consider this this
issue here where we were going through one system, and we had
to move it. And two years later, we gave everybody fair warning,
and all the modern links were hooked.
I'm actually blaming myself. I mean, I can't believe that. I
think at the time we did say, Hey, tell your your app creator,
but we should have had like, come on 301 redirect. It's it's
simple. But the app culture I think the app developers,
particularly you know, you get what you pay for free apps.
They're cutting corners. It's even our own what is the what is
our app the pocket no agenda app broke this this is pretty sad.
It is yeah. So
and, and so we were already wondering like wow, you know,
donations kind of fell off a cliff and then two weeks in a
row, no executive producer or two shows in a row. No executive
producer. I I'm humbled, I have to say, by the stepping up of
support that we got,
yeah, we had no executive producers at the time of the
newsletter. And then when I wrote the newsletter, a lot of,
of our real supporters stepped into that role. And we have now
we have a ton of them. Yeah, for this show. Anyway, we'll see
what happens next week, next Thursday. But
most of most importantly, we really end up I'll put it in the
in the show notes. Again, the explanation and maybe we should
do like one of those form letters for like, what do you do
for your Senator or Congressman, dear fill in the blank app
developer? Please update this feed, remove all other
instances. I can. I've seen people tweeting at Stitcher. I
know they've sent emails and yet there's no update.
Nobody home. It's essentially a vending machine. There's nobody
doing anything. You've just set a vending machine. It's like
talking to a vending machine. You're out of your auto Mars
bars, vending machine mydala, a vending machine. Come on, what's
wrong with you?
You know, it's a very good analogy. You put the dollar and
you see the little spiral thing turned, but then no Mars bar
drops out. It's just an empty spiral. Yeah, that's sad. That's
what we're getting. Man. Oh, man. All right. So
clean. Imagine how much these guys actually get from those,
those little ads that they drop in the show on the show?
Well, I think it's a real company. 1000 I think it's a
real company, this stitcher outfit. Let me say, aren't they
and let me see are they may even be funded? Are they VC funded?
I don't think so. Maybe if they are then I would write to the
VCs and pitch to them. Let me see. I mean, you guys are
invested in this company. What are you kidding me? Here we go
stitcher
in the CrunchBase. Let me see what it says here. As founder
2008 $18.7 million in funding,
they got $18.7 million. They've all they've obviously been
spending it on parties.
So they got 2.7 Series A in 2008 6 million in 2010. And
another 10 million in 2011. So they're going through it so
they've got an Well, yeah, that's well let me see APR. So
they got 16 million in 2000 Oh, that's a year later. Well, they
got so they got a burn rate of about a million a month probably
doing what stitchers an online radio service allows individuals
to stream news entertainment sports and talk radio onto
mobile devices. stitches in house personalization engine
serves up only the most relevant engaging and user specific
content for unique listening experience. So venture capital,
see new Atlantic ventures, I guess to kind of the the seed
the A then we have benchmark
benchmarks. Nizam Ron Conway.
He's one of those like Angel, you guys. Yeah, he's
around all the time. He was on the board. He's famous. So
that's right, everybody. Should we write Ron Conway and tell him
what we think?
Yeah. Well tweet him. He definitely is on Twitter. Yeah,
tweet, whatever. Let's just get him. Let's get his God.
Well, we need the help. Seriously, it's
twitter.com. And then, the list search of Ron Conway. I'll find
it Ron Conway because he probably has a secretary doing
it. No, I have a
feeling he does it himself. If he's even on it's kind of like a
Jason Calacanis type, you know what I mean?
is I think this is him. Yeah. How many followers it's it's at
Ron Ron, CEO, NWA wise, got 60,000 followers. That's not
bad. And then he's the last tweet, though, is June 14. So he
doesn't tweet all the time. He does like one he did. Let me
just say here's a series of his last tweets. His last four
tweets, June 10. June 11, June 13, June 14. So he's not like a
serious Twitter or he is a you know, once in a while he gets up
and says stuff like this. Here's on June June 10. thrilled with
court's ruling in Vergara. California now leading the
charge to put students at the center of public education.
Yeah, boo. Another one congratulations to LINDSEY
GRAHAM, South Carolina The latest one conservative to win
his primary outright against anti immigrant opponents. All
right. Yeah. Okay, so that's that so I don't mind the bombing
him with the complaints
on him. Yeah. Yeah. Tell tell him that his investments in As a
wrap up, just so people understand, because I'm just
reading the chat room stitcher puts audio ads in front of any
podcast, like which, which, by the way, when all this
podcasting first started, that would have been such an outrage.
If MVNO had done that, or pod show at the time, pig, man,
you're stealing my content. That's exactly how they sounded.
And I don't care. You know, what same guy is that same dude. Have
you ever? Have you ever had to do Do you ever want to give just
one keyboard that you're working with? Right? Yeah, yeah, I have.
Oh, actually, I have a second keyboard hooked up. So for
number. When you use a wireless keyboard, you always keep a
second one at the at the ready, that's wired?
Well, for a number of reasons, I have two keyboards that I need
to use during the show. Why? For a number of reasons, and it's
just a temporary thing. I need a different monitor. Because in
order to run, you can't the MacBook Air which runs the show,
now, it has a thunderbolt output, which doubles as a
monitor output. But you can hook up just a regular DVI monitor
and the Thunderbolt connection. So you have to have an apple
monitor that connects to the MacBook Air and then from the
Apple monitor, you can connect to the Thunderbolt. So then I
would just have one keyboard and one monitor. Because I don't
have that I have another key so I have a secondary keyboard and
at least 10 times each hour. I'm typing on the wrong keyboard
looking at the screen going Why am I not seeing anything? This
is stupid. Pay no mind to me. Okay. Okay, so please help us
out with with fixing the feeds everywhere possible.
Yeah, it'll stay it'll stabilize things I wanted to send out, you
know, alarming notes like this last one, which didn't even out
the bad Thursday, but it was like a you know, I don't like to
have been around people to that extreme.
Before we get into a lot of topics today I feel it's kind of
our something unique to the no agenda show but I can give you a
technology perspective of something you may have never
heard of. And that would be ham comm I'd like to give you a
little report of
ham comm so let's back this story up a little bit. So Adam,
you took the long three and a half hour drive in your truck
with the big antennas I did and the gear and and a flame
thrower. And you went up there to Plano Texas
I did indeed, I've now this is not the mecca of ham
conventions. You know, that would be in Dayton, that would
be Dayton. But we were in Tokyo. So I'll have that'll have to
wait until next year. But this is a miniature version, I guess
of Dayton. And it's, it's in Texas. So it's an interesting
type of audience, I
would say I don't have to fly anywhere, either. No.
So it's a three and a half hour drive. And I did I had the truck
patched up a little bit and a couple of things that needed to
be after the break in and I got the dashboard put back on and so
I had my my entire gear and I'm driving up and as I said, I was
ahead of the weather but I was getting lots of reports on the
on the two meter band and, and that now this is like seven
o'clock in the evening. It's one of those beautiful Texas sunsets
I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere. And I'm talking to guys
from Arkansas, and on the 40 meter band. It was with five
watts from the cars. It's pretty interesting doing 65 miles an
hour. It's just that was just kind of a geeky moment. Anyway,
so I arrive up there. And itis booked into the Holiday Inn
Express, which is one of those. It's a convention center and the
plane planos the whole town is Convention Center except for I
guess rosboroughs EDS. And now it's 930 and there's no room
service in the Holiday Inn Express. But there's the Denny's
Yeah, so and in this parking lot, John. Fantastic, though. I
feel it. I'm very deficit here. By not having my ham call is my
license plate. Oh, wait, no,
wait, you got two big antennas and you haven't got your call
letters as
I know how bad is that?
Wow. That's That's lame. Oh, Pa Yeah.
And there's guys with antennas. And it was just funny. I mean,
big the the Texas Bug Catcher which has like big coil in the
middle and you know, guys with 20 antennas on just really funny
to see. So I'm at Denny's and so this is not this is kind of my
two days I'm I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want to
hang out I just wanna be quiet and and I'm looking at the menu
and it's and it's that moment you're tired. You've driven
three and a half hours when you realize that I'm only five years
away from qualifying for the Denny's senior citizens
discount. Since one is 55 Senior, what is this bull crap?
When did this start?
This Danny's just looking for getting more customers? That's
not very common. I didn't like it. Generally speaking, it's 62.
And I'll tell you something. Ah, it's great.
You're funny. Do you do you take the discount everywhere? Right?
No. Yep, theater you get a deal yet just cheaper you get you
have my son is actually annoyed by the fact that I get what's
called a senior because I'm 62. A senior Clipper card. Clipper
card, a Clipper card, which gets you a budget public
transportation barked the beat on the bar on anything with this
card. And it's like, essentially, I can write on BART
for free.
And how often do you do that?
I never doubted that much. But when I like if there's some
meeting in San Francisco, and it happens to be near a BART
station, I'll always take Bart because it's like, I don't want
to pay the bridge tall. I don't want to pay the ridiculous
parking in San Francisco. It's like you get ripped off or they
tried to give you tickets. Hey, you
know, you're sounding like every guy at the ham calm right now.
Well, you know, they've got to take advantage of these deals.
So there's a couple of different audiences at this convention.
And and I did learn something and there is something I think
there is that I did gain real knowledge, which is why are my
people?
Well 60% of your people of the audience, which would be your
people, it really hams are amateur radio operators who are
professional preppers. You see, and everything they do to
justify their hobby. He's always prefaced or or followed by, in
an emergency situation. I'm not kidding. It's always in your if
the lights go out, then we'll be ready. But no one asked your
question about this before we go on. Yeah. Did anybody recognize
you?
I got two in the mornings from people who knew I was there. No
one else recognize me. But Tuesday, that's not bad. No, I'm
with well, there's no agenda and then there I think there were
two more who we just didn't connect. So probably for no
agenda hams who are at the
convention. It's better nothing young guys to know. Yeah.
So this justification is it's it's really quite sad. Because
there's, I think there's very few actual examples of ham radio
operators saving lives. Of course, there are Katrina. Well,
in fact, a lot of I heard I've sat in a lot of these sessions
and they said Storm Sandy No, no, they said we could have done
this at Cortina Christina Katrina, Katrina, but we didn't
have the people who knew how to do it or something like that.
Yes, of course, as examples, but nowhere near the the, you know,
the alarm should be is what you're trying to say
now. It's okay. Actual emergency services really don't want these
guys in the way with the yellow jackets and all this. And
Oriente do the FEMA people didn't want any help. They let
the place get out of control, where people could have helped.
Yes, and I don't want anyone to take this wrong. But it's just,
you can also just say, Hey, I just like talking on the radio.
It's a fun hobby. You don't always have to say, and I'll be
there in case an emergency bullcrap. You just want to talk
on the radio and talk or whatever. And a lot of these
guys have physical disabilities, which makes us a great hobby.
You know, it really does. And a lot of veterans who, you know,
man, I had lunch, and you sit outside and there's a bunch of
veterans radio relay, Li You got all these guys. And I mean, it's
like I was I could have I could have handed out every single
person could have had a no agenda CD. It's all you hear
that? Yeah, well, there's IRS scandal, man,
you didn't hand out any no agenda. I
only had 20 with me. I didn't know that it would the whole
place was going to be no agenda ized and it was just you know,
there was a little Where are you from? KF five? SLN. Austin. Oh,
that's not really Texas. Thanks. All right, whatever. This is big
controversy. Because now the AR RL the American Radio Relay
League, which is the club have determined that ham radio shall
now be called civil service instead of an emergency service.
And these guys are beside themselves. They're so mad,
because now they can't say no, they can't have the emergency
sign on their car. And then emergency service on the jacket
has to be they don't want to be civil service they want to be
emergency. So it that is it a little pathetic. Although of
course I'd be happy if you know if a ham could help in an
emergency and save someone or communicate Of course I
understand. And I do that too. But you don't have to always
justify your hobby with that. Okay, so that's 60% Now there is
a new crowd. And these are really hackers. And it's really
beautiful to see and hackers and makers besides the obvious
Japanese manufacturers you know, Icom and Yaesu and the Chinese
you know, the the cheap jet crap that's flooding the market,
which is great, by the way, because you can start in ham
radio for 35 bucks, you got a brand new two band VHF UHF
handheld. Everything else is really American ingenuity and
manufacturing. So there's, you know, tuners and amplifiers and
antennas and, and everything. Everything looks like a 57
Chevy, you know, it's no style. We like really big fins and big
metal and sharp saying
that way, hold on a sec sharp corners. You're saying I want
everyone to hear this. You're saying that a 57? Chevy has no
style.
It's not a no, no, it's not a modern style for today.
But does it have modern style? Yes, yes, that's different than
no style. Okay, I'm
sorry. It has sharp edges, it's in the Japanese stuff is kind of
sleek and rounded, nice. And even that is not stylish. But
that's beside the point, the stuff that's being sold outside
of the brand new manufacturer radios, even elecraft, which I
have is American radio. And there's a real industry around
that. And it's nice to see these, you know, these screw
driver antennas that have servos and go up and down. Outrageous
stuff. But what I was most interested in, of course, was
digital, because this is what all the younger guys who are and
girls, I'm sure they're out there who are getting into this
are really interested in what you can do with digital. And
I've always said the one or two sessions I wanted to see one was
D star, D star estar is standard stands for Digital smart
technologies for amateur radio. And it was developed by Icom.
And it's been reverse engineered, although Icom still
is kind of the only radio manufacturer that uses this
digital technology. But there is a company that makes a little
USB plug hub that you can plug in your computer and you become
a basically a D star radio access point. So it is it's the
technology is available for people to make. But right now
it's kind of all Icom. And that's really why I was never
interested because I kind of believe the all the yelling and
grousing that this is proprietary technology. And it
really isn't. So I wanted to find out more about and I was
really blown away by what this thing is. And the speed. The
talk was given by Pete Lowell, who actually knew from the aprs,
we talked about aprs, right, that kind of text messaging for
ham radio. Yes. So he developed all the Java aprs servers, I
didn't know that he was doing this, this d star stuff. So with
these start with a ham radio, you can essentially make a
connection 128 kilobit data connection, which is pure
Ethernet, it's just encapsulated in Ethernet being processed
through the air. So you could sit there at the ham comm and
hook up a computer and surf the net at 128 kilobits, which is
you know, considering what's really going on, it's pretty
amazing. But more interesting is this worldwide network of these
D star repeaters where you can it's kind of like a it's a, it's
like Twitter in a way where you can talk and send text message
to a group in one area. But also you can address someone directly
regardless of where they are in the world. So if you wanted to
reach me, and I had my radio set to for that capability, you can
just select My callsign. And no matter where I am in the world,
you'll be able to send me a message and we'll be able to
talk complete digital voice great clarity within within an
instant. That's pretty cool. Yes, very cool. And of course
that it's kind of a it has its own digital network, but it
rides on top of the internet so you can go
with the technicians license. Yes. So in other words, all of
our listeners could do that. Yeah, do that because it
technician is licensed by the way for anyone out there wants
to get one is easy. Like, yes, extremely easy. And so
so where this is it so it's kind of like what I like about it's a
private and not really private but it's it's a social network
that is always going to be non commercial. I like that. You
have to take a test to get on it. I like that. You know what
kind of a test you have to take if you have to memorize some
questions and and answers. But I mean for the technicians test,
you know, just to become a ham. Yeah. Oh, I
thought you meant to get no no, not for D star No, no, no,
no. Okay. And, and you can expand the network and you can
hack around and you can get it on from your computer. So it's
very similar to the echo link stuff, except it's built in. So
you don't have to go through the hassle of finding a repeater and
all this crap. But it also it really, it really does work with
these radios. And I don't know, it's, I was very impressed by
the addressability, the routing and, and the and the quality is
stunning. And you can send you can talk and send texts at the
same time. So it's, it's pretty nice. And I think there's a
future for that purely as a social network. And of course,
it didn't emergency will be able to save you. Okay. The second
session that I was interested in that I went to was the broadband
mesh net. And this is done by a guy named Glen curry with an IE
he's from Round Rock. And then I spoke with him outside of his
session for about an hour, these guys are insane. So what they've
done is they've taken old Linksys Wi Fi routers, which I'm
sure you have 10 of them, just laying around your house, and
they've hacked the firmware there, they also now are able to
do this with ubiquity devices, which is really nice, because
these new ubiquity, two brand access points, they've you know,
they've better antennas and more power and, and just newer
hardware. So they modified the firmware so that it broadcasts
in the in the ham frequency spectrum. And you put your
antenna up, or if you're lucky, you know, you can just use the
access point as is, and it finds other nodes and connects and
you're connected to this mesh network, which is a one megabit
backbone. And there's 1000s of these nodes worldwide is
unbelievable. And of course, they tunnel through the internet
to these other nodes across the world. So you can become part of
a new internet that again, rides on top of the internet, but also
it's a local network by itself. So in Austin, they have pretty
well, actually all of Texas, but a pretty wide network. And
they're using this as a military concept called DTN, disruption
tolerant networking. So for so they have email service on this
network, which you can also tunnel to the internet, of
course, if you want. And this guy, he has to drive from
somewhere north on
DTN GES Ultra wideband, no, no
disruption tolerant networking is they also use it in India.
But the idea is, you all it's a store and forward network. So So
you have you're part of this mesh network. But you're not
connected to the other mesh network in San Antonio, there's
just no physical connection, there's no mesh to that point.
So this guy happens to drive from San Antonio to somewhere
north of Austin every single day. And he has one of these
systems in his car with like a tube antenna. And he drives by
all of these mesh networks. And he has in his car, a server
handoff, well, yes, a server with all of the email. And
because it's a megabit per second, if he if he sees one of
these mesh networks with a server for a minute and a half,
he's able to transfer all the email while he's driving by and
he's able to pick up whatever is coming back to Versiv. Today,
and in an emergency, I tell you will be able to save the day.
This really is very interesting. While it's cool, it's very cool.
And of course they have VoIP running on it because you know,
they can talk to each other. Again, why? But there's there's
some really cool stuff going on. And people are building all this
with Raspberry Pi's and nit there's a lot of interesting
stuff going on. It's a great hobby. And, and in an emergency
we can save you
Yeah.
It was a wow. Yeah, but So those two things D star I was very
negative on the whole idea. I'm kind of like a hardcore like
command line guy like, it sucks. But once I got the lowdown on
the D star, I was very impressed that you can't buy a D star for
35 bucks yet because yeah, you pretty much default to Icom but
I know these dongle guys have figured it out. So you know I
think people can you know get the spec and build some maybe
build it into one of these cheap Chinese radios. There's a lot of
room for this. And I just think it's an interesting view of the
I mean you haven't been able to really set up your your your
local repeater etc with this thing. You just you search it
finds a frequency you key the mic it loads all the data all
the the gateway and all the information automatically. You
know, it shows you what you're looking at on the screen. You
have to manually program all that stuff. That's really nice.
That's the kind of thing you want for your little social
network. And yeah, I encourage any no agenda ham. To feel free
to reach out to me. K A five SLN and I'll talk with you if I
don't have to do anything it just rings you know? Okay, hey
well I'm glad you got something out of it out of your little
trip.
Well, I think it's there's there's more there's more to it
than what you see on on ham. What is it ham weekly or
whatever.
Pile Bob Heil. Yeah, I felt that what? I don't know. I haven't
been to one of these fests. But I was under the impression is
essentially a large parking lot with a bunch of guys with their
trunk. So
Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention that with a bunch of dusty gear.
Yeah. No, the hell
ever trunks open and they're all selling, buying and selling each
other's gear. Yes, that's whatever price
is. That's really sad.
I don't think that's sad. Classic swap me. I walked about
45 RPM records. You go right. Where did you get this old dude
upside? collected it back in Jersey.
Believe me. I walked through the parking lot. And I was saddened
by what I saw.
Why was there no good gear? No, no, it's just junk. Junk.
And there was junk inside too. And then every cuz they always
had a flea market as well as the vendors. And every three or four
tables, all of a sudden there'd be a lady selling cosmetics. Or
a handbag. Yeah, well, then actually,
I tweeted it was the blender salesman there.
I tweeted it. There was someone he had, you know, a couple of
radios and some batteries and then a huge box of beanie babies
know for three bucks
there's your market the future of Bitcoin Bitcoin.
So anyway, it's worth it did check it out. And anyone can get
their, their basic ham license technician license, they just
have to do the test that costs five bucks, or whatever. It's
worth it.
It's cheap. It's easy. Yeah. Have one just in case of an
emergency.
You can save the world. Ah, let me see. Well, I'm sorry. I'm
sorry to bore you with all that.
Well, you know, they could have skipped this part. Yeah, I
think it's interesting.
I find it interesting. I think we do have a lot of we have a
lot of technical people that listen to the show that would
are always kind of on the on the cusp of like going to get a ham
license and getting some call letters they can put on their
email or on their license plate, or the license plate.
But it isn't immediate. You are in an immediate club. And it was
it was cool. I got a couple of no agenda hams pinging me on D
star. Anyway I think I forget where Nate was. He was like, I
don't know. A whole nother state so it was nice. You know, it's
just another way of communicating Do you want to
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Spain, yes, Spain, Italy whatever. Besides that it's a
Dutch people are friendly and nice. The team was roaming
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super warm reception entertain themselves in our best
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Exactly. Hey, got one for you. I got a clip for you or me? Yeah.
Okay. This clip is right for you. After we did our analysis
that we began the analysis of the Iraq situation with ISIL or
ISI, whatever, ISIS or ISIS or ISIL. So here is McCain on the
Senate floor. Hey, what
do we need to do now? Obviously, the first thing I think we need
to do is call together the people that succeeded in Iraq.
Those that have been retired and get together that group and
place them in responsibility position so that they can
develop a policy to reverse this tide of radical Islamic
extremism, which directly threatens the security of the
United States of America. And it's time that the President got
a new national security team. It's time that he got a group of
people together that know what it is to succeed in conflict.
And I would say the leader that would be General Petraeus, I
would say that General Mattis is one. I would say that general
key is another one. I would say that Bob Kagan is another one.
Oh, yeah. We have some production going on. Well, this
is a this is a recurring theme with the K gun. Here we go. Rob,
brought to you by clan Kagan. Here's here's McCain on. What
show was he on here? Well, it's kind of the same way. Let's
stop for a second and remind everybody that Nudelman who's
the who's the stooge for John Kerry is Bob Kagan's wife?
Yes. Robert Kagan's wife and Robert Kagan is married to us is
the brother of Frederick Kagan. He's the true project for New
American Century neocon. And then there's the sister, which
is Elizabeth. And I say that Kimberly kimberleigh. Yeah, of
course, Kimberly Kagan, and she runs the war Institute. That's
what I call it. Here's McCain talking for the study of war.
Yeah, here it is McCain. There
are no good options right now, I'm sorry to say. And just to
say airstrikes, obviously, is is not the answer, either, because
it's very difficult in a very fluid situation as we're in
today. You need to call in General David Petraeus, and Jack
Keane and the folks at the Institute for the Study of war
that predicted this, and other and Ambassador Ryan Crocker and
others. These are the guys that won the war and and get them to,
to devise a strategy and then implement it with tactics. I
don't know exactly if the airstrikes right now are exactly
the answer. I'm not sure. Because I don't claim to be that
smart. But I know there are people like Jeff keen and
General Petraeus and others who are that smart. And I know that
this team that he's got around and now I'd be fired, you named
some very be fired. Yeah. Who are you calling on to be fired?
Senator McCain,
everyone in the national security team, they've been a
total failure, the totality of the abandonment, just like that
cost period, just like I call, just like I called for the for
the firing of Donald Rumsfeld back under the Bush
administration when we're failing in Iraq. Yes. A couple
of key things here. First of all, he said, These guys won the
war.
Yeah, what what?
They won the war. And then he brings in his buddies, the by
plugging the Institute for the Study of killing people in brown
from people in sand. And that, of course, is the Kagan's now. I
actually see up to well, there's a lot going on, I think I have
discovered something I play
one clip before you go on. Yes, please. I just want to make sure
we get a little balance here. And let's see what John Boehner
what John Boehner has to say about all this.
Now, they've taken control of Mosul. They're 100 miles from
Baghdad. And what's the President doing? Taking a nap?
was taking a nap. What that's what he said what? Okay, take it
for your input. Anyway, I'm sorry. Just yeah, I like it. I
like it. taken a nap.
All right. In the show notes, we got a lot of things in the show
notes. Producer JB actually has done a great rundown. I'm not
going to go through it all. He has all of the stories about
Kurdistan. And of course, you know, this is this is a lot of
this is about the Kurds and Kurdistan. And of course this
involves Syria. This involves Turkey. And we oil fields. Yes.
And so I want to focus on some of that. At first I want to set
up here I have this is a clip of an Iraqi army. deserter who is
talking about the Iraqi army now most of what you'll be hearing
on the mainstream media is oh, we spent 25 billion which,
excuse me, that's we spent that we spent that in a month 25
billion that's nothing. Now we're spending a billion a week
something like that 25 billion is nothing is bullcrap. That's a
low ball number. And he ended just a little bit it's a you
hear me no translation about the state of the Iraqi army until
Congress got out of it. That was done on WhatsApp. I wish
we were on a patrol and we saw the Second Division, the
division before us leaving in that ours, soldiers told us
things are falling apart. Our commander told us to leave the
prison and the central command in Mosul has fallen. And we are
leaving, or ISIS had taken over the British prison 40 kilometers
away from the two top generals arrived, and they changed into
civilian clothing, and got into civilian cars and left. I
watched the generals as they left, but that definitely means
the problem is not with the soldiers. It's with the
officers. In 2004, I was fighting. And we saw that the
left tenants and the colonels in the US Army, were standing side
by side with us, and they were raising our morale.
Now, I have some unique insight to this as I was in Iraq, end of
2003, beginning of 2004 for a couple of weeks, with the Dutch
Marines at Camp Smitty. And as part of the propaganda piece of
the tour, we were taken to many of these training camps where
the Iraqi security forces were training were were the high what
is it? The the coalition forces were training the Iraqi army.
And I believe we've talked about this on the show that I found
that quite hilarious because these guys were like Dad's Army,
if you've ever seen Dad's Army, the old British sitcom, where
they'd be training and like, the, the commandant would say
about face and half the guys would turn right, the other
heads would turn left, they were dropping their weapons, because
it was a complete sham, this training of the Iraqi forces,
I'm sorry, I had I and I believe a lot of military personnel
would agree with me that the training was bullcrap apps,
just, you know, set dressing, if anything. So the Kagan's are
deeply involved in this. And there's a lot of if you look at
the website, which I took some time to, to look at that. What
is the the Institute for the Study of war, they basically lay
out what is going to happen, and they even say, here's what's
going on. Now. ISIS is going to Baghdad, that is the next spot
if they haven't reached it already, by the time you hear
this podcast. So this is what the Kagan's in the neocons who
got us into Iraq the last time. And they're now running the
show. And I think our analysis is pretty much spot on that this
is only about the pipelines in the oil fields. And I have a
little bit of detail on that. So according to the Kagan's ISIS
will seek to target the state of Iraq's government in the green
zone. This will probably be a symbolic target rather than an
operational one. But that is what they will be doing next. So
they're going to Baghdad. To open the routes ISIS needs to
plan to break the ISF controlled access to Baghdad from the
supply routes. They will do this by seizing control of the
waypoint cities themselves so you can look at the map you can
you can see what's going to happen but just go to this
website. I SW actually they have a blog about this is
wiraq.blogspot.com this is the Institute for the Study of war
and it's I think is interesting that
they have Blogspot
and have you seen the the ISIS promotional video?
No, I haven't boom some interesting videos I want to
talk about but
they have this Hollywood style video. So if you go to ISIS film
that no agenda notes.com I've been begging me to look up two
things at the same time. And I do this i s i s film singular.no
agenda no SATCOM ISIS film. And this is a like a snippet. And I
just want to take a look at it because you know, they use the
drone and it's like super zooming in and this is for bunch
of terrorists. This is kind of a nice little bit of production.
The full length video has been pulled from YouTube
unfortunately, in The Message says, This video has been
removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on shocking and
disgusting content. You can you can can you turn the sound down
and you can just watch it
while we're talking about it. If I turn the sound down, it turns
it on down on YouTube.
You can turn on the YouTube sound the volume on the YouTube
is I can just I just want you to see the spinning drone and you
know it's amazingly well produced. I will
want to mention that so I went to a baseball game. At the end I
was given a car, the driver as part of the oh it was from a
company as a company event for NetSuite. So the driver is from
Lebanon. And I like and I always sit in the front seat of these
cars I say I'm gonna sit in the back it's feel like an idiot,
right? So I sit in the front seat and I Yeah, I pulled an
atom and have a conversation with the guy and he pulls up a
bunch of videos that are do they say that's a violation of
YouTube? This video that apparently all these Lebanese
and everyone's watching which is supposedly a couple of maniacs
it from ISIS driving down the freeway just gunning down
everybody. Yeah, yeah, I was like he says it's just and it
just video went on forever and it was just you know these
people would they have a 50 caliber submachine gun and they
stick it out the window of their car was shot everybody and
they're just shooting people just you know, just randomly
Atlanta's rent very reminiscent of those kind of home videos
that these stupid kids do when they go around town with a
paintball gun
or a baseball bat hitting the hitting mailbox.
Yeah, bum rolling or any of that stuff but it was like sick.
So you see that there's there's money in production in this
thing. You see that? This is a lot different than that video,
that's for sure. Okay, now, here's what the mainstream media
wants you to believe that this is a sectarian fight. And this
is all about religion. And as a part of that we have the ISIL
and by the way, both are right, ISIS or ISIL. Except one mean
state and one actually means the region which is Levant, which is
important. In a moment, you'll hear
a Dallas mentioned by Kimberly and the last show, right? So
it's but it's the same group but the, the, it's really the ISIL
for the Levant because it's about the region. But the main
thing we'll be talking about ISIS as the Islamic State
because they want to make it purely about religion, which of
course that's part of it. But that is not the real reason
behind what is going on. This is why your no agenda show exists
to give you this type of analysis. And ISIS has released
the 10 commandments for Islamic rule. Notice it's 10
commandments. And I'll give those to you right now. People
you tried secular rulings and they gave you pain now it's time
for the Islamic State of Imam Abu Bakar al Casaya. That's
number one for some reason. For those of you asking Who are you
We are soldiers of Islam and have taken a responsibility to
bring back the glory of the Islamic Caliphate. Number three,
we took the money from Safa V, that's the, I guess, the $500
million and in mozal, that is rumored to be 425. Actually, the
money is now public, only imam of Muslims can spend it the hand
of anyone who steals will be cut. Or we ask all the money got
the money. We ask all Muslims to be on time for prayers in the
mosque five. We warn tribal leaders and sheiks not to work
with the government and be traitors six no drugs, no
alcohol and no cigarettes are allowed. Seven for the police
soldiers and other infidel institutions, you can repent we
have open special places that will allow you to repent. Well,
that's good. Eight gatherings carrying flags other than that
of the Islamic State and carrying guns is not allowed.
God ordered us to stay united nine, our position on shrines
and Graves is clear. Simply all will be destroyed. This is what
the mainstream media will focus on is the destruction of
religious landmarks. They love showing that 10 For women dress
decently and wear wide clothes only go out if necessary. This
is very typical. Okay, so that is their 10 commandments. And
the mainstream media is meant to focus on some of those in order
to to bring you information that does not
wonder about their origin, but go on, of course,
regarding the pipelines, and so I've put a lot of work into
looking what goes where. And there's two issues at stake, as
we discussed in the previous show, the pipeline from Iran
through Iraq to Syria to the Russian port, the port in Syria
that Russia owns, that is being disrupted and and blown up. And
this is why I'm pretty sure that the Kagan's are involved in
this. The oil that the Kurds have and a lot of it is coming
from the Kurdistan which they now have captured they also have
the the refinery occur COC I'm sorry Kirkup, they have the
refinery now. They have the pipeline that goes the it's the
to the Botox terminal. And you can this is the Baku Tbilisi se
han pipeline. That's that's the one that terminates in the
terminal. This is in Turkey, se han ce YHAN. And Bo toss is the
outfit that that is running that there and if you look at the
map, you'll see that this oil goes from Iraq, around Syria to
the north, into southern Turkey. And then of course from Turkey
goes into Europe and it is and we have gas pipelines and
everything is going into into Turkey but mainly this se han
terminal and the boat Last petroleum pipeline is owned by
and has partnerships with all of the usual suspects. But this is
very interesting because it also does fit in with the Tbilisi and
Baku pipelines, they also terminate here. So this was an
existing spot. But now we're just routing around Syria. And
if they can get their way, but I don't know, they still want to
bring the gas up from Qatar. But right now, the Kurds are piping
the oil into Turkey, to the north of Syria, and, and doing
everything to blow up the pipelines that go through Syria.
So this is also an F Russia story.
But he has planned the Kagan's or an F Russia operation, of
course,
of course, because the we know, the Kagan's are in in Ukraine.
So all of this is is F Russia, and get the oil into Turkey. But
I will tell you that Turkey needs to watch out. Turkey is
not necessarily free and clear. But now some interesting things
happened. I was watching the President's speech about not
going back to Iraq, with troops. And I found out some interesting
things. This isn't to this little irrelevant bit of him.
This is I think, two days ago, multi threaded application, what
does that multi threaded application, a two fold increase
in flooding? I'm sorry, did I somehow not clip the beginning
of
this you become did he become a JavaScript code?
What the hell is that? I have a feeling that I let me check
something.
Well, I want to I want to play a clip while you're doing that.
Because you mentioned that they get the media is going to focus
on one thing or another. I think that's not necessarily what you
what you think they're going to focus on because, well,
they're gonna focus on something else. Oh, I
got it. I got it. Mike Morales on CBS. Now Mike Burrell, of
course is second in charge at the CIA is now working for CBS
News. And although I don't believe he's working with CBS
News, because Scott Pelley introduces him not as like Mike,
our correspondent, but Mr. Morel former
former former deputy secretary Have you ever heard
a you know, you got a guy working for you? And you call it
and you defer as Mr. De like, on this show, calling me Mr.
Devore. AK, what do you think Mr. Devore? Agnes? Oh, anyway,
so here's what it's all gonna boil down to and this is Morales
kind of take on it. And this, I believe, will be the Litany
overall about what this is all about, even though this is
totally contrary to what we're promoting. But this is where it
heads.
One of the people with deep insight into all of this was
Mike Morel, who until last year, was number two at the CIA and is
now a CBS News contributor, Mr. Murrow, these attacking forces,
do you believe they have the capability of taking Baghdad?
So Scott, this is this is no longer an al Qaeda terrorist
group, this is now an al Qaeda army. You have to think about
it. I do think that they have the capability to threaten
Baghdad. But I think that Iraqi forces, and I think that the
Iranian help that they're now getting, and they're likely to
get more means that it's going to be very tough for them to
actually take Baghdad. And I doubt that that will happen.
What's at stake for the United States, the extent to which that
this group can have safe haven in western Iraq could mean a
base of operations from which they could attack the United
States, the United States homeland. And that's something
we really have to worry about. Oh, please. Is that a great,
please? Yeah, it's
not Clip of the Day. But please, please,
I just cracked up when I heard that. And
to say that they're not going to Baghdad, he's probably not he's
not in the right. In the right group?
Well, it's funny, there are three I've noticed there's three
thesis one is the one you've already expressed. The second
one's the ones he's expressed. And the third, which is on PBS,
you hear that a lot on the radio, which is that the
Iranians are going to come in and take that and then they're
going to take over? Yeah, I've heard that too. And then they're
going to take over the whole region, and then it's going to
nucular nuclear Noogler in there. This is budget that's
going to bring us into it. You know what
this is, this is the the Orthodox, the Greek Orthodox
priest prophecy. You have to listen to this one. This has
been around for a number of years. So this is an I can't
find an actual source, but I found the forums and the
threads, you know, 2011, etc. And this is apparently from the
Greek Orthodox saints prophecies I quote, In the beginning,
Turkey will take six miles of land inside the Atlantic
territory, I'd be Greece. However, this won't last long
because as Russia will engage the war together, a loss and
Russia will capture Constantinople, which of course
is Eastern bowl and Turkey will be defeated. This will result in
the descent into the descendants of the Catholics that captured
Constantinople in 1204. To fight against Russia. This will result
in the beginning of World War Three, which will happen in
2014. And this was written in 2011. That's kind of funny. Last
won't fight this war at all. Before the war begins, Russia
will have to conquer all the land until Israel including it,
then the West will fight back in the war will happen in the
territory of the Byzantine Empire. Half of the US forces
along with Germany, Great Britain, Britain, and more
countries will attack Russia from the West, while Japan and
the other half of the US forces will attack from the east, the
war will be devastating. And as one of the saints mentions, the
war will have 700 million dead in three days. Finally, by 2017,
the war will end having no winner as the prophecy state. At
that time, the only thing that prophecy say is that
Constantinople, pontos, and ianya will belong once again to
the ELS Turkey will be split into three and one part will go
to a loss one will go to Armenia and one to Kurdistan. This
summit, there's some things in there that I think are valuable.
The splitting of Turkey.
Yeah, totally see that. They've been resisting forever. The
whole
Russia thing being attacked from the west and the east.
Interesting.
Yeah. It's unlikely. There's China's in a way. Hello.
All right. The second Mike Merle clip.
Yeah, you can play he wraps it up. But you can tell it this is
like this, I believe this to be one of the Theses that is put
forth at CBS will be propagating. And they are a
White House, spokes hole.
You know, I wonder you were at the CIA during the entire 10
years of America's involvement in Iraq. What is it like
watching this territory being taken?
It's a great movie.
It's It's It's disappointment. It's bordering on anger. You
know, hundreds of 1000s of US troops fought there to remove
Saddam and to bring stability to Iraq. Many, many CIA officers
served there. And you know, it's a it is a real shame to see that
stability, erode. And it's now virtually gone.
More than 4000 Americans having lost their lives to secure this
territory in that time. Mike Morel, former deputy director of
the CIA, thanks for the
question, just to kind of slow this down a little bit. Well,
why did we go to Iraq in the first place?
Weapons of Mass Destruction.
That was that was the way to capture stop or wherever. But
that wasn't the real overriding theme. It wasn't stability,
either.
Because Saddam Hussein was selling oil in euros.
No, but I'm talking about overt, which is regime change. Of
course, yes. We went there for regime change, and we got it. So
why do we need to even care what happens? We got regime change,
which is to get rid of Saddam. And we did we got rid of him and
we got regime change. And now we can see what happens with our
involvement should be zero in this deal.
And our involvement is, on the one hand zero. I don't know what
this happens is mission accomplished. So President Obama
said we are not going to send troops back to Iraq. That is
very clear.
He said all options are on the table. Yeah.
No, but something else is happening. And I found out what,
okay, and I got clued into it by watching my favorite show the
State Department press briefing. I believe Matt from AP was
saying, is this not a total failure?
Obviously, the withdrawal from Iraq in 2011 was not a mistake.
We that was a decision made with the Iraqi Government consistent
with the US Iraqi security agreement, a decision and a
timeline that was set out five, let's say 2011, for no longer
than that. What year we were in 2014.
She's a little flustered and confused. All right,
a decision and a timeline that was set out long before 2011 As
I guess what I should say back in 2008, if I remember
correctly, and we stand by that decision that was made. Now,
obviously, in circumstances like this, there are steps that we've
taken, given the increasing threat, whether that's the
counterterrorism fund, that this President announced just two
weeks ago, or the increase in assistance we've given we're not
going to make an evaluation that something is a success or a
failure because we're we're continuing to work on it.
So I heard that and it would blow Hold on a second. I miss
something. an anti terrorism fund the President announced
Huh, what exactly is an anti terrorism? Counterterrorism is
the word she used. You but it is an anti terrorism fund. The Here
is the President's announcement of that way. He's a speech at
West Point. So earlier this year, I asked my national
security team to develop a plan for a network of partnerships,
partnerships from South Asia to the hell. This to hell holiday
as part of this effort is to Hell is, that's the entire strip
across Africa. From east to west, I am calling on Congress
to support a new Counterterrorism Partnership
sponsored Counterterrorism Partnership Fund of up to $5
billion, which will allow us to $5 billion frame, build capacity
and facilitate partner countries on the frontlines.
These resources will give us flexibility to fulfill different
missions, including training security forces in Yemen, who've
gone on the offensive against al Qaeda training, supporting a
multinational force to keep the peace in Somalia multinational
force, working with European allies to train a functioning
security force and border patrol in Libya security force, a
critical focus of this effort will be the ongoing crisis in
Syria. Hmm, that's frustrating as is there are no easy answers
there. no military solution that can eliminate the terrible
suffering anytime. So
as President, I made a decision that we should not put American
troops into the middle of this increasingly sectarian war. And
I believe that is the right decision. But that does not mean
we shouldn't help the Syrian people stand up against a
dictator who bombs and starves his own people. Okay, so we're
going to help. And in helping those who fight for the right of
all Syrians to choose their own future, we are also pushing back
against the growing number of extremists who find safe haven
in the chaos. So with the additional resources I'm
announcing today, we want to step up our efforts to support
serious neighbors, okay, Jordan, and Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq, I
will work with Congress to ramp up support for those support in
the Syrian opposition who offer the best alternative to
terrorists, and brutal dictators. Now, if I were in the
military industrial complex, and I'm already a little
disappointed that we are out of Iraq, and we're leaving
Afghanistan, and I'm here in $5 billion. Hmm, of course, that
would mean that I'm not in the loop. But I'm not really a part
of this. And I didn't know about the CTP f the Counterterrorism
Partnership Fund. So I look this up. Now the administration will
request funding for expanded or enhanced DoD activities such as
intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, Special
Operations and other activities. To achieve these objectives, the
administration will seek up to $5 billion in the fiscal year
2015 OC o request. Oh, see, oh, request that is the Overseas
Contingency operational budget. Ah, yes. Which actually, is
slated to be between 50 and $70 billion in this request from
Congress, which is now going through the house and soon the
Senate, and I'm sure will be voted in with very little media
coverage. 17 good
article in the Daily Beast says these guys are resisting this.
Here's how I know that. That is going to happen. We had a little
shift take place. And that shift is here we go. The outfit known
as con Stella's holdings. In a press release of this came out.
Two days ago, concealers holdings signals major news in
the high threat security industry. Academy the company
foreman, formerly known as Blackwater and Z will join
Triple Canopy along with a handful of other high threat
security companies under a new management structure named can
Stella's holdings. They have now consolidated Triple Canopy and
five other companies into the largest high threat security
group in the world. And we know that they're already sending
5000 consultants to Iraq. The board members of this outfit of
course, let's see General John Ashcroft. Jack Quinn, Bobby
Edmonds on the board. This is a fucking Bonanza,
Bobby Inman. Oh, yeah. My boy Bob, you know that he's just
lives down the street.
Yes. Yes. We've discussed this many times. And he's good
friends with my uncle Don.
And, and why don't you go say, Hi.
I'm gonna go say hi. So we're talking $70 billion. Yeah, we're
in if you listen to the words and John Kerry, of course is the
one that blows it. He really he's such a moron. They're
talking about security, not about armies, but about security
protection resources. We are going to spend 50 to $70 billion
on these companies to continue the rehabilitation and protect
whatever we need to when it comes to the Kurds or whoever we
have to protect carry always does this. What
it really is, is a statement of transition that is appropriate
to the timing
transition from military to private sector, as expressed
by the military and the generals, and by the situation
on the ground in Afghanistan. What we are doing what the
President is doing is making clear,
nice little skip there. But the President just in case, you
know, wouldn't want to get blamed
that the United States understands its role of
leadership in the world that we are deeply committed to, to
offering that leadership and to continuing to lead.
That means giving money not leading, giving money, we're
doing so in
Iran with respect to the Iran negotiations, we're doing so in
Syria, with respect to increased ramp up assistance to the Syrian
opposition,
increased ramp up assistance, the money sending money and
arms, why they don't it's not like Kerry has a whole bunch of
grenade launchers. Now he has a visa check. And he gives it to
the military industrial complex and they ship the weapons over
we're doing it in the Maghreb. In the Sahel and the Levant
South Asia, the Levant, there you go. And in East Asia,
like the way he slips the Levant in it's in there for a reason.
So word that nobody uses every word. Yes,
that is the United States, which
means we're financing is i L. I E is is we're financing Syria. I
was surprised. Yeah, well, he, he's saying this guy's a douche.
So in Syria, with respect to increased ramp up assistance to
the Syrian opposition, we're doing it in the Maghreb, in the
Sahel in the Levant, South Asia, and in East Asia. And the fact
is, the United States is more engaged in more places than it
has ever been in any time in history. But the President today
is going to make clear exactly what the vision is for how we
deal with this rapidly changing more complex world where
terrorism is the principal challenge. And so today, he will
announce a terrorism partnership first.
Notice what he says he doesn't say counter he says a terrorism
Partnership Fund. He He's so dumb this carry, he actually
tells the truth. We're they all do.
We're funding I tell the truth. So that's why it's on the show
forever. We are
funding a the President is funding a
terrorism so everybody gets to hear it. Yeah, let's play it a
world where terrorism is the principal challenge. And so
today, he will announce a tourism Partnership Fund.
Now that he's just telling the truth is Yeah, you can't not I
mean, at some point, you tell it that, you know, he said
something else's tongue would a shot at it.
But I can't believe then it's known as the Counterterrorism
Partnership Fund, but he says terrorism is
a challenge. And so today he will announce a tourism
Partnership Fund about $5 billion dollars that we will use
Mohammed Mohammed $5 billion to help train other countries
training their people in their ability to join and alliances
take on this rising
other people. What does that mean other people we're going to
trip with so we're taking $5 billion dollars and we're gonna
train other people come on, this is insulting to take
on this rising radical extremism that challenges rule of law in
so many places, oh,
Bonanza, people Bonanza, and it's your money. I got people
standing here on i 35. You know, begging for money. And when
we're Rubble, screw them. And we're verbalizing all I mean,
the whole region is going to be completely Rob lies all the way
through Turkey
Stalis group has also I read this thing I've been reading
about your it's like the only company called strategic social.
These guys are fantastic. I told you this is a great outfit
Stella's
Gibby acquires strategic social global holding company strengths
and services portfolio. It says strategic socials, a leading
provider of public safety technology, business consulting
and program management solutions to commercial and government
customers in challenging and austere environments. You know,
that is the business and cultural synergies between
Costello SC and the strategic social are noteworthy our
business operate in the same geographical region regions and
serve similar customers including governments. This is
the Twitter guys this is a spin off of a Hillary will be working
for these guys. If she doesn't get become president. Yeah, no,
this is this is just Another scam and talking about I don't
know if I should go to this clip because it is part of this bad
I'll segue later go on with your thesis it's actually pretty
well no I think this is perfect timing for your clip because now
we have we have it's all laid out we have the what used to be
known as the mineral resources extraction group ie the Pentagon
that has now been pushed back and there's been a lot of crap
between this administration and the military in general. And you
know, it's just not working out the VA is no good the big
problems screw it let's get the commercial guys in here. They
know what they're doing. You know, there's no bull crap
there's no coffins with flags, you know, you just pay him and
they get the job done. They have no morals realize the place we
do not care. And oh, by the way, let's get our guys in there on
the board. You know, buy it all up we deal with one company now
can Stella's holdings we've taken away all of the bullcrap
of Blackwater Z Academy we've covered that up with with
marketing essentially now it's constellar us and we you know we
got what we have one one way in and one way out, then guys,
here's what you do. Make sure that pipeline doesn't go through
Syria, protected all at all costs everything that goes into
the ports and through Turkey. Oh, by the way, while you're at
it, let's split up Iraq. Let's let's make Kurdistan. Let's
screw with Turkey. And we own Greece. Anyway, we own
everything there. So we're good to go. It's a sad, disgusting
display of a elitist bullcrap. And meanwhile, all we're getting
is, well sectarian Liberty beauty this Tunisian See, isn't
it? We're destroying the relics of the religion and fuckin
stupid. It's about money in oil and gas.
Well, does American public has to be kept away from this sort
of thing. Because, you know, you get your guys begging on the
corner and nobody cares about them and morale and his pitch
that you know, they're these guys are going to attack us.
They're going to these guys.
They're gonna attack us. Yeah,
they're worried they're setting up shop to create their own
hammered and and maybe a counterfeit, but there are
concerns they're going to attack us
for another 911 type attack,
which is like, Are you crazy, we could just flatten the place if
we wanted to. So nobody's attacking us from this area. But
you know, we have to keep the public afraid afraid. So there's
this really funny report that came out from this group Salaam
and this is the Al Salam now it's just this the salam project
or so okay. And it stands for something de la m I can't
remember but they they came up with a report and I want you to
play this this and of course this is Russia Today only played
place I could find that reported on this. But then his Russia
trying to needless now Russia Today of course is a very poorly
run propagandas organization there's about 10 people that
watch it that doesn't do a very good job we are we're much
better at it. But listen to this this is the pre crime clip that
and by the way, this is all no agenda things we've been talking
about this all along only the apparently this report outlines
a lot more of these incidents and we ever came up with before
it's a crime. It's pre crime
getting convicted if you're suspected you might cause
trouble in the future. It is a practice security services in
the United States have been using according to Muslim
advocacy groups there. It's known as preventive prosecution.
Critics say it's nothing more than entrapment report in our
explains how almost 95% of those found guilty were provoked by
the FBI.
In a post 911 America hundreds of Muslims have been arrested,
prosecuted and imprisoned or attempting to carry out
terrorist attacks. However, this study just released finds that
the US government has played a major role in orchestrating most
of those so called terror plots in order to exaggerate the
domestic threat of Muslim extremism. When examining the
Department of Justice's List of 399 terrorism cases, the study
found that 94% of those cases involved pre emptive
prosecution, that's a practice of targeting those who officials
deem predisposed to committing crimes before an actual crime is
committed. In some instances, the study finds that defendants
were targeted purely for their religious affiliations and
ideological beliefs. In other instances, the FBI used an agent
provocateur to recruit vulnerable individuals, luring
them with cash and coercing them into carrying out a terrorist
attack that was set up by the FBI. Now a federal informant
would provide the fake explosives and instruct the
defendant on what to do. This is otherwise known as entrapment.
Now, the 175 page report was released by project salaam a
group providing Support and legal advocacy for Muslims. One
of the co authors told me his findings make it difficult to
believe in the integrity of the US justice system. And federal
agencies.
What they're trying to do was to convince the American public
that there's this large army of potential terrorists that they
should all be very, very scared about. They are very much
engaged in worldwide surveillance. And this
surveillance is very valuable to them. They can learn an awful
lot about all sorts of things, and in the sense control, it
control issues and to their advantage. And the entire legal
justification for that depends on there being a war on terror.
Without a war on terror, they have no right to do this. So
they have to keep this war on terror going they have to keep
finding people and arresting them and locking them up and
scaring everybody. Because without that they cannot justify
the kind of surveillance they're doing
us surveillance, as the public has learned is not just limited
to Muslims, citizens. Critics say unless there was public
outcry over government manufactured crime, that too may
eventually become common practice to target anyone.
Man, that's just propaganda from propaganda, man. That ain't that
ain't true.
Meanwhile, the funny thing is, by coincidence, Mimi pointed out
an article we ran in both this SF Gate and then Reuters about
about the illegal you know, this this is what we said of course,
again, this is nothing new to no agenda listeners, which is that
the NSA information is being used to listen to everybody so
they can make everybody in law enforcement job easier, right.
So apparently, this read this from Reuters, the secret of US
Drug Enforcement administration's funneling
information from intelligence intercepts, which illegal by the
way, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone
records, to authorities across the nation to help them launch
criminal investigations of Americans. And what they've been
they've one of the reasons he says they they have these days,
there's apparently a PowerPoint thing where they the the law
enforcement agency will get this information about you from
illegal wiretaps and then it might have some criminal aspect
to it that they can they have to and the PowerPoint is the
PowerPoint presentation is about how to back engineer the issue.
So in other words, they find out that you have said something
sketchy
and now why is it always me as the example
well that's just happened to be standing in front of me Okay, so
you so they want to get you and so they have to dream up some
bullshit about how they found this out with confidential
informant told them or some other so we are under a and
that's what's happening with these Muslims they obviously
find some guy who's bitching about the government, then they
they pay him I didn't know that by the way that the FBI actually
comes and gives the guy money. Here, Ahmed, you know, here's a
bunch of money if you blow up displays, I'll help you. And you
know, the guy ends up following he's a dumb guy. But this is
like the situation the way it is now it's just out of control
with the with it with this, these illegal wiretaps, and then
this and the frightening of the American public in general.
And this also falls right into the whole idea of the six week
cycle, which is exactly what the FBI is doing. And that's not
just because they want to do their job, but they need to keep
their job by continuously proving that they're doing
something of good value like stopping terrorist plots. That
is pure entrapment that they have been all the way up to
giving the guy that phony baloney keypad a press this Oh,
you press it. You're arrested. Yeah, that's,
there's something funny about it. It's
well Yeah, it's funny, but it's not really funny. It's you know,
I have to say, I completely disconnected for two days with
the ham comm thing life went on. I was not
no I'd have it we have a lot of listeners who now say I stopped
listening the mainstream media just listen to you guys. And I
feel better about
thing. Why would you bother you get your little you listen to
the news. We give it to you. You can laugh. We try to make you
laugh. So I think what's happening this is Bloomberg
reported. US officials now believe Chinese hackers now
already know the steps needed to blow up a US pipeline or shut
down an American power plant. They're practicing, said retired
Army General Keith Alexander.
Oh, you're practicing how are they practicing? Where's what
pipeline blew up? Tell me
they're practicing. It's just there. So this is all part of
the cyber attack. Either way,
how do you blow up a pipeline with the with a computer code?
I'm just reading it. Obviously if dumb. Blair's power lines go
down all the time. Thanks to squirrels I think the if you
look at cyber terrorists versus squirrels it's about 500 to zero
so far. Squirrels are winning the cyber war at this time I
have
a squirrel story. Oh, squirrel hit it. So I'm I go I see a guy
working out one of the boxes she's from Pacific telephone or
whatever 18 T and he's on any show and I say, you know, can
you show me show me the district DSL and and T one and the way
they do the connection that the difference is the wire sticker.
And I started talking to him about the because it was in
Berkeley and there's a bunch of trees I said, and there's a
squirrel that went by so these squirrels must be a horrible
problem. He says the squirrels are the plague. That's why we
prefer underground cables even though flooding is also hurts
that process. But squirrels are terrible. He's and then he told
me this story, which I just thought was amusing. It's a sci
fi star. It's got nothing to do with what we're talking about.
He says at one point they kept developing new kinds of plastic
around the wires so the squirrels would stop eating them
because they apparently got a taste for this plastic and yum.
So they put capsicum of huge amount of hot chili oil,
capsicum, capsicum capsicum is the ingredient in hot chili
peppers. That burned you. Hey, squirrels, corn is corny. So he
said they put the capsicum in. And he says it exacerbated the
problem because the squirrels got a taste for it.
And now they're hooked on capsicum. So they
would it was worse because they were eating this stuff just to
get the buzz out of the Cavs. Anyway,
oh, I have a follow up just to wind up our military industrial
complex bit. But you question the b1 Bomber at the the fractus
side, the friendly fire letters on that and got a couple of them
but actually, producer Oscar z i don't know if he wants me to
give his full name. He sent me a couple of clips that he made
himself Thank you very much of this is Pierre spray. He's the
designer of the A 10 and the F 15. And of course, these are
planes that the pilots actually love. And what our producer
asserts is the reason why the b1 was falsely accused of killing
the our own troops is to eliminate the b1 the funding for
the b1 of course, we already know the Warthog, the A 10
funding is gone in order to funnel that money towards any
guesses
Hillary's campaign?
Almost right? The F 35, also known as that piece of crap,
also known as the Joint Strike Fighter. And so this this is of
course, a biased guy Pierre because he designed the F 15 and
the a 10. But here is three quick clips about the F 35. And
yes, you said it correctly a piece of crap. But this thing
continues to be funded, it would have been a trillion dollars now
every country is kicking in. Here he is on how the F 35 would
work in ground attack.
So if the F 35 is not a fine combat plane, what about as
support for troops, air support,
that's the most laughable of all, because to support troops,
you have to be able to get in close to maneuver to find really
difficult to find camouflage targets you have to be able to
turn at quite slow speed. You have to carry a large gun, say
like the a 10. And you have to be able to stay in the vicinity
of the troops for four to six hours. You have to be able to
loiter in order to really give them all day cover when they
need it. And hopelessly impossible with the F 35. Why
the f 35 years is far too much gas. It's lucky if you can hang
around for an hour an hour and a half. At most. The
maneuverability is laughable. You couldn't possibly get down
in the weeds as the pilots say with this airplane and turn in
time to see a tank. Remember a tank is not visible from me
maybe from a quarter mile or less. This airplane at the
speeds at which it has to go because of the Tiny Wings
remember it can't maneuver so it can't fly slow. Nor should it in
combat. Because it's so vulnerable. So what is it good.
It's not good at anything.
It's a turkey. Of course the other part of the F 35 is its
stealth capability. also addressed in this short clip
talk to
me then about the stealth I mean how stealth capable is The
first thing to know about stealth is that it's a scam. It
simply doesn't work.
It's a scam. I love this guy. It's a scam. Check out the scam.
I didn't know about this. This is funny radars
that were built in 1942 could detect every stealth airplane in
the world today, the Battle of Britain radars not because there
was anything great about them, because they happen to have very
long wavelength. Every battle of Britain radar would see the F 35
and the F 22. And the b two I'm not talking here as an
antiquarian, because unfortunately, the Russians
picked up on this and have been building exactly those radars
ever since World War Two, they never stopped building low
frequency long wavelength radars. And they've modernized
them to an extraordinary extent. They build some really amazing
mobile versions of them now that are both hard to find when
they're camouflage and can be erected in 40 minutes and see
every stealth airplane in the world and they sell them to
anybody who's got cash.
Yeah, there's some info for you. And so
that's why I think they pulled a stealth fighters out of the
woodwork. They ran them in Iraq for a while then all of a sudden
they stopped running them. Yeah. And I think it's because of this
the Russian technology, which is old technologies and
old style. final clip, of course, is to answer before you
get off that I do want to read something from Paul dough Paul,
producer Paul darling, who wrote about the A 10 Warthog. He says
For 25 years you have the A 10 And he talks about some of its
capabilities. They're specifically designed and
operated by the army, not the Air Force to thwart the
anticipated overwhelming columns of Soviet hardware rolling
across the certain planes of Europe. The entire plane was
designed around a 30 millimeter cannon which rotates like a
Gatling gun and spews depleted uranium tip shells at the rate
of 3000 rounds a minute Wow. Although the gun only allows 1.5
seconds three bursts, decimating anything if that isn't enough.
It can also fire 12 Hellfires and fire and forget missiles
each missile capable of killing the biggest tanks. The frame is
made of titanium to protect the pilot from ground fire. Because
they operate so low. The engines have a very distinctive stick to
wind, the plaint also took the role, took the role of Eric
close air support to ground troops. That's what it does. And
it's got these two inches it can turn on a dime. And it goes on
he goes on and on about the H N was best in class and still is
and there's nothing to replace it.
Except for the F 35 which is has one single solitary mission.
So you're telling me it's a bad airplane. It can't do dogfights
it can't protect troops in the ground. It's a lousy bomber. And
despite everything that the manufacturer is saying, it's not
stealth. So what is exactly correct. So what is the point of
this plane?
The point is to spend money that is the mission of the airplane
is for the US Congress to send money to Lockheed. That's the
real mission of the airplane. There you
go. makes so much sense, doesn't it? Well, it's
very effective.
It's doing a good job. My dad says one of the best ones yet.
Unreal. Anyway, I'm real.
I do have a couple of other things that are kind of
interesting too worth following up on it were worth following in
the first place. Here's a little discussion from another new
group, you should look them up. In fact, you should look them up
immediately and play their clip of what they're up to on their
website. Very slick operation called the SU fan group. Okay, I
will look up su fan is another one of these acids, Sultan's. So
you FA N run by an ex FBI guy who's Lebanese like my driver
was and who, by the way, the Lebanese are known as the most
natural businessman in the world, so they will start these
groups up. And here's the rundown of isI L by the SU fan
group,
only be surpassed by its fortune ISIL run by an enigmatic leader
Abu Bakr al Baghdadi may now be the richest terror group in the
world after reportedly stealing hundreds of millions of dollars
from banks in Mosul when ISIL captured the city on Tuesday.
Joining us now to discuss who ISIL is we're joined by Robert
McFadden, a Senior Vice President at the SU fan group,
which provides strategic security intelligence services,
a former Deputy Assistant Director of counter intelligence
operations with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.
He's an expert on terrorist movements in the Middle East.
Robert, as always good to have you with us. ISIL has really
quickly gained a lot of territory and a lot of money.
Where is it getting its funding from? Well, it started back when
it transitioned from the state Islamic State in Iraq and into
its current form as ISIL. In operations in Syria, one of the
first funding streams came from taking the goods and money from
Christians, Shia, and even Sunnis, who were otherwise not
aligned with them and thought to be supporting the regime. But up
until what happened the other day, and most of what they
reported over $400 million, though, it was very effective in
raising money from some of the things I mentioned. And it
worked very hard to control the oil producing region in East
Syria, right. It's always taken over oil fields in Syria and
also has power generating plants that Syria needs. So their
enemy, Bashar Al Assad is actually paying them money.
Exactly. And that's been part of the the complexity of the story
that at the time, it's implacably opposed and trying to
overthrow it to further establish the state. There's
some of that back and forth because it's generating money,
and it's in its interest. And are they also getting money from
Saudi Arabia, because Saudi Arabia opposes all offside? Have
they getting better getting funding from Saudi? So we'll
see. That's one of the other main funding streams over the
course of the last few years, outside donors, particularly
from the rich Gulf states. And the potential of this money,
especially if they've gotten these hundreds of millions of
dollars, when they took over Mosul, is that they pay fighters
and it's already a fairly large group by the SU fan group has
looked at just how many fighters they've got. Exactly. And going
back to the time when it first went into Syria. One of the
things that was a part of the draw for foreign fighters
besides it being deemed as the group of action, it was able to
pay a better stipend both within Iraq for the Iraqis as part of
ISIL and in Syria, so that that continues now. These these
groups are they're really interesting. The SU fan group.
And you know, we could if we were douchebags we could easily
do this.
Oh, I look at the SU fan group thing and a little video they
have you can play it.
Let me see. Yeah, I was just looking at the
this slick operation know who its competitor essentially, is
Richard Clarke. Right? I think, yeah. They're going after the
cyber crap a lot. If you read their website, it also
seems like Yeah, but yeah, okay. Yes. Cyber. I think also, oil
still the the team itself looks on let me let me get this set
up. I mean, just looking at it. So we have Ali Soufan. I guess
it's named after him. former FBI Supervisory Special Agent who
worked in East Africa also the USS Cole bombings, oh, guy. Don
Borelli, also FBI. Then we have McFadden who we just heard that
he's was a counterintelligence NCIS. We have this guy, Daniel
Friedman. He's a writer. And like a Tom Clancy type guy
Richard Barrett, also United Nations counterterrorism Martin
Reardon, FBI, Susan sim, Singapore's mission. Deputy
Chief, Stephen white, UK police officer see they gotta gotta
have the UK guys for BP. Barry Gossard UK Special Forces Steve
Kleinman. He's a Desert Storm Iraqi Freedom. It just goes on
and on and on and on. Here's the video. FBI special agent. This
is a whole bunch of TV screens and pundits rating officer. Of
course, you really want to have these guys. I'm running a
security consulting firm and
the SU fan group. We are strategic security company. We
do national security consultancies training. And we
do research intelligence research. And I sanguine,
we've got experts from a wide range of fields from
intelligence to academia to law enforcement. And that way we
provide for clients a really 360 degree approach.
He's really up here at the curry divorce Consulting Group, we
really provide a 360 approach for our clients
first talking about their our backgrounds, educational
experiences, from different walks of life, people that have
run some of the biggest counterterrorism cases in US
history.
We need to get like my uncle, Bobby inment on the board. Oh,
yeah. Stuff like
yeah, no, it makes a ton of money. Millions. Yeah. Oh,
I could cut my hair and put on a suit.
Yeah, and you could have the bull crap. You're a good
spokesperson. And you get that little tick, which makes you
look like
interesting. Like, that's like all I like something happened to
me in the intelligence field. You know, like, oh, man,
you got you got beaten? Yeah.
But I didn't give anybody up. Dammit. No, of course not. This
is this is a fantastic group.
I know. This is one of the best I've stumbled upon. But anyway,
let's listen to the second half of that clip because he talks
about the stumbling nobody talks about which is the leader of the
ISIL group.
Let's talk about this enigmatically. You're this guy
Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. People don't know much about him, only
a couple pictures out of them there. Some people are referring
to him as the most powerful terrorist leader in the world
now, he apparently wears a mask even when he goes to talk to his
own troops. Who is this guy? Yeah, very shadowy. And as you
mentioned, the two photographs are the only known publicly
available. He's an Iraqi, from Samara, from the Sunni Heartland
has bonafide religious credentials. One contrast for to
Osama bin Laden, for example, who didn't, but he has those
religious credentials. That's withdrawal, reported to be very
charismatic and very, very demanding of the utmost of
secrecy. He will not allow any non Iraqis to be part of his
military or shore council. So that way, he maintains greater
security. And you know, one question is, they want to create
an Islamic state, do they in effect, have it already? Well,
and that's a really good point. They've declared, and this put
him at odds with iman Zawahiri and core al Qaeda, they had
declared the Islamic State of Iraq in greater Syria, of
course, ISIL. However, think of it more in terms of the seeds of
an embryonic state, because ultimately, at least for them,
their aspiration as a religious duty is all the way from Corizon
and Central Asia, across the Middle East to North Africa, to
regain all the lands and that would be the Khilafah or the
caliphate.
Yeah, so this is pretty funny, but I'm looking at if you ever
want to find out who you know, what a what a company does, and
then who their customers are. I've been looking at the website
while I was listening to that. So they they provide security
training, which is investigative training, intelligence
operations and analysis, professional training. Then they
have cybersecurity crisis management, procedures and
protocols, Major Events, security, intelligence and
threat assessments. And then, of course, the sectors they serve,
but they have the testimonials page. And it's pretty much Qatar
that they're servicing. So he's the former US ambassador to
Korea to Qatar, the SU Fang group has experience and skill
in both government and industry worldwide. They've earned a
reputation for reliability insight, and know exactly what
the client needs to make informed judgments on sensitive
matters and sensitive parts in the world. In other words, yeah,
I think you should get to Castelli holdings to put those
guys in there. And I've been making big blow up that pipeline
over there. The CEO of Qatar Airways is huifeng Group is a
world class strategic security consultancy. I'd be Wow. What a
what a gig. Yeah, I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad.
That's a huge Yeah,
well, not really, because Chase was
nice when he said that, you know, we had Kimberly Kagan,
discussing mentioning specifically Saudi Arabia and
Qatar. As sponsors of this group, and this guy doesn't say
Qatar. He just says certain Arab Emirates.
Yeah, but if you look at the, at the website, it's obvious right
there.
Yeah. But he's not going to point the finger at them as big
sponsors of ISIL. And this crazy guy who's running this show,
he's either a Hugo Chavez guy who knows he's target going to
be a target of intelligence services, or he's a CIA guy. Ya
know, he could be intelligence or Joe could be the leader. Why
not?
Well, we, so we don't do fancy interviews. We don't do fancy
consulting for entire countries. And we are not part of the the
clear group of Neo cons. And by the way, President Obama, you
know, he did quote Robert Kagan in his State of the Union, I do
want to point that out that he's all in on MBO Kagan was the,
the, the architect of the surge, this whole entire group all is
when it comes down to it, Rubble is everything and everybody that
lives in sand and is brown of color. So we can keep the oil
pumping to our number one customer which is Europe and
coming up number two, which is China. The if they don't kill us
and before you know, and let's cut off their supplies in
Africa. Isn't it pathetic when you look at it just from from
that big level? That's what it's all about?
Well, it's, you know, it's a petroleum centered civilization.
Oh, sure. Petroleum is everything. And we this is all
about Oh,
and while we're at it, let's trick everybody into thinking
that we're going to live on wind and solar. Well, I know Hey,
call up that. Who's that guy that? Who's that? That guy with
the electric cars? Yeah, that guy, the Tesla guy. Tell him to
make some news. South Africa Yes. I'm giving away I'm getting
all my patterns. Yes, I'm giving away my patterns. I'm a hero. I
tell you,
there'll be no excuse for anyone do not go electric. Oh, that's
what the subjects That's right. Yes,
of course, no excuse everyone should do it. Why? Why bother
with petroleum? This? What a scam? You kind of think that?
What's his name? The Tesla kid? Musk? Yeah, you think he do you
think he's in? He's got to be you know, he's got to know this.
He's got to know that this is futile.
Oh, there's something he knows that we don't know, obviously
that I mean they're taking a beating on those cars. I mean
they're selling him at a loss, but he makes it up for the
35,000 plus dollars per car he gets as a subsidy. We've talked
about this before.
Yeah. What do you think? Do you think he's in on the whole scam
that this is just a big distraction, you know, get the
guys with a small penis to buy this app to
be in on it. It just gets checks and then a rise he stays that
stays the course because of the lure of all this cash, right? I
mean, these guys making money hand over fist. It's really
smart, though. I mean, you make a car for all the guys with a
small penis. You know, beautiful car. That's way too expensive.
You know, everyone Googles and Google's over it and you know,
then you can start it and cool it with your iPhone. It's
electric. And then everything else is
Yeah, no, it's great. I mean, I use it's fun to watch. So drive
my 2122 year old Lexus
Yeah, well, I my 10th Blanca, my 2002 Dodge Ram did the job. And
I got it. Got you there and back did got me there and back and
kept me relatively cool. Of course, I wasn't pulling a
trailer. You know what happens with the trailer, you got to
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We need more people in Colombia listening to our podcast now.
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Times is definitely all over this now with a new opinion the
online opinion thing you can subscribe to but from business
insider.com I would like to just read to you a little bit of a
native ad which is not marked as such wishes and I put it in the
show notes is just really disgusting. This is going to
ruin journalism. Yes. If you put it really tiny somewhere and
like no sponsored content or something. People are not going
to believe it anymore. So here it is. paper currency is the new
gold right Joe Wiesenthal for business insider.com. And he
talks about his a deal with my college my colleague Jay about
two or three times a week he picks up breakfast for me on the
way to the office in exchange I pay for his breakfast on those
days when he has me breakfast usually a platter bacon, eggs
and sausage he tells me how much I owe him. I find this annoying
because I have to fish out cash from my wallet. Often we don't
have the exact amount or I just don't have any cash on me at
all. It would be really great if Jay were on Venmo the excellent
app made for easy small denominated friend different
payments is perfect for settling up checks and other shared
purchases. Can you believe this? Can you believe it? Yes, I do
believe it every day a situation that requires the use of
physical cash feels more and more like an anachronism. It's
like having to listen to music on a CD. Though no. John Maynard
Keynes Keynes famously referred to gold. Keynes famously
referred to Gold Well, the gold standard specifically as a
barbarous relic well the new barbarous relic is physical
cash, like gold caches physical money cool, like gold cash is
still fetishized and like gold cash is a costly drain on the
economy. Then he goes on and comes back again with his
friggin app. So unbelievable.
It's actually be to me, it's disgusting. It's more than
unbelievable. It's actually sickening,
but it's don't they don't they see that it's going to ruin
their credibility. No,
I said all they see is the bar bottom line and the Republic is
so has been brought up to this in such a way Sept of our
listeners of course wouldn't put up with it. I don't think it's
gonna ruin anything. I think it's just gonna be the way it
goes is going to trend this is a trend, not a ruination. I think
you're I think you're completely wrong on this. I'm wrong. You're
wrong. This isn't gonna ruin anything. It's just the way it's
gonna go
and people just going to be all in and we'll buy it and it's
fine. It's great and we dumb everybody down into into a
stupor of stupidity. Got it? Yeah. Ding ding ding ding ding
Gotcha. Well, speaking of the stupid stupidity, time for rev
owl Are you ready?
Do we do the birthdays? I missed that?
I just did the birthdays
How did I miss that? Okay, where was I?
I can just see your eyes rolling back in your head out we're
gonna
do what all right arable the rev owl every single day. I think
you got
right you got some rebel clips.
I got one rev owl. Is that a recent one? He's now there's
there's two in here. It's a double whammy. He's talking
about what he wants to say is something is escalating. And
it's making the good word escalating. Yeah. Well if you
say escalate is good. And and with this escalation, the
Republicans or the GOP is giddy. Giddy is what is that? What does
giddy mean? It means
you're you're you're just kind of like you're just kind of
excited in a kind of a shaking way. You're shaking. You're
excited. You're just right. Yeah. And so
So of course, the Reverend Al The Rev. Who, by the way, we
looked at his ratings, but after the show, we did no wonder the
guy's still on the air.
Yeah, he's got better ratings than everybody except Rachel.
So this does it. What does this tell you people?
Hasty his ratings constitute is I think it's 600,000 listeners
or viewers, which constitutes on television. $600,000. In in a
budget. Yeah. And so he they're so they're budgeting so he's
probably making millions
and 600,000 people watched him do this.
The GOP infighting is escalating. Political says
Democrats are outright Jide happy to watch the GOP and pro
giddy GID dy on the screen and pronounce it Jide. And he said
SQ SQ lates asked you, lady, so he probably will pronounce the
word JIFF correctly.
Oh, do you have that clip to? The we both have that clip? No.
I
don't have that clip. I have to clip
it. Hold on a second. We just grabbed this clip. Did you see
this? No. Oh my god. President Obama did this thing with the
tumbler crew the student loan thing. And David crap or
whatever Carpe Diem of Tumblr. They interviewed the president.
And then during this so the on the west, the West Wing Week,
which is that little expanded podcast that they do with a guy
with a voice over IP turns out, the President has now officially
proclaimed the pronunciation of GIF as GIF. That is now by
presidential proclamation. And this came up as the David Karp
from tumbler and Obama
were David Carr was with Pan dough. Now that's a different
guy. know as a different carp. Okay, going
as they're doing the recording a fist bump. GIF for the Tumblr,
because Tumblr is all about the gifs the animated GIFs Yeah,
mainly of penises and boobs.
Yeah. Just screwing and jiggling bras. Yeah.
And all kinds of fetishes and stuff. Tumblr rocks. Oh, it's
awesome. is better than x hamster. So cool. Hold on a
second. Somebody recognized what I said. Here is it so here's the
Presidential Proclamation. Oh, do you see the Jeff? First of
all, there was an executive order to gift now. So
he he made the decision. Just so
you know. You're there yet. So you've made up your mind. That's
gift. That is my official position. I pondered for a long
time. I think that wasn't gonna work. Yes.
Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. It's now gift official
standpoint, executive order.
I think that the Republicans should call it Jeff.
Just to be complicated.
I got a couple of clips I want to get out of the way please.
This is a weird one to me. And I actually I'm gonna save this
clip for the next show. Oh, because I haven't fully analyzed
I want ease. Let me play something. Let me play
something. Now. Let this play through because I there's a
little point of analysis I have to do on this one. This is Mary
worth N Who is a very attractive guy. History professor Collier
or Mary? That's Molly Molly, and she's a very attractive history
professor at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and
she's got a new book out. So hit it.
Molly, where there is a history professor here at the University
of North Carolina Chapel Hill. What courses do you teach
Professor worth?
I teach a big survey course on the history of religion in North
America. They teach a course on modern American intellectual
history. One of the most fun courses I teach is called sin
and evil in modern America, which is a small research
seminar. You can imagine the kinds of things the students get
into in their class.
Well, you're also the author of this book apostles of reason,
the crisis of authority and American evangelicalism
published by Oxford. What is evangelicalism? That's a great
question Great question. Not a great question. Oh, you got me
I was I was at that's been a while since you did one of
those. Very tiny very funny. Oh, you got me. This morning while
we're on the go I can Can I just do a religion thing a little
side sweep? Probably
Asher woman's book, by the way, it sounds fascinating. It's
very interesting. You know, we've been identifying this war
on religion in which in general, if you are religious, if you're
a Christian, or if you go to a church, not temple, or
synagogue, or mosque, mosque, but if you go to church, you're
Republican. That's pretty much the way I boiled down the war on
religion. Crazy, crazy ass and you probably like guns and hate
abortion.
And right you think the universe is 6000 years old? Exactly.
That's everybody. Yeah, everybody. So very interesting
to see what was going on and Comedy Central. This is in
relation to Dave brats winning, beating out what's his name?
The other guy, I have no idea what you're talking about. Hey,
the
day Brad's in the election. The prime is beating out cantor.
Cantor. Exactly. Exactly. So here's Jon Stewart on the Jon
Stewart Daily Show. But is he more than eye candy?
The reason we won this campaign is there's just one reason and
that's because dollars do not vote you
I love the sentiment although a certain Supreme Court might
disagree with that's very
interesting that he says that because this actually proves
that the Koch brothers can't necessarily you know sway or buy
the country as all Democrats and particularly Harry Reid are
saying so instead of saying that Johnson would turn it around in
a very interesting way and doesn't point out the obvious
that the guy did this with almost no money but I like to
kind of his job what else you got there fella? Luke 1827 Jesus
replied, What is impossible with man is possible
did not see that coming?
Oh, the guy said he's got what a stupid thing. But wait, there's
more.
This is a miracle of God. We believe in God who gave us this
miracle today. I love every single person that God made on
this planet.
We get it you beat a Jewish guy we get so interesting to point
that out. Continue on Comedy Central A Colbert and something
similar is a miracle from God.
Yes, Brad's victory was a miracle from God. You hear that
only Jewish Republican in Congress? Oh, so close. You're
just one Jesus short.
I think there's a lot going on here.
And it's pretty interesting that coming from cold bear to who is
a religious nut. Yeah.
I just I thought thing was interesting that we know that
the percentage of Jews in government is much higher than
the percentage of Jews in the country that's interesting by
itself. But then to really highlight that as the main issue
of this, this primary. And of course, you have these audiences
laughing Oh, crazy. Eight Jews. Republicans hate Jews. Well, is
that true? No, I think so. I don't think so. But everyone has
to laugh at the religious people. Yeah. Look, I don't I
don't go to church. I've had my own views and beliefs, but I
laugh at somebody just for what they believe in and what they
what they it's why I don't get that.
Yeah, you've been pointed out says, you know, it goes on too
much.
It does and it's getting somewhat annoying. I feel.
I got a question for you. I want you to play this clip. Radar
anomaly.
I'm glad you bring that up.
Bermuda Triangle style mystery over the skies of Europe, it has
emerged that over a dozen planes vanished from radars for almost
half an hour, three countries reported similar disappearances
and experts are scratching their heads over why.
Yeah, this is the reporting is somewhat sketchy. And I have
reached out to people I know at Euro control. What happened is
number of airplanes vanished from radar, mainly over Europe
for I think it was it happened twice actually for, you know,
1520 minutes. And, you know, there's lots of conspiracy
theories. Oh, military did this and and I specifically spoke to
one of our producers who works at Euro control, and like, none
of this is all bullcrap, I think what happened is something it's
much easier. In fact, you may have even yourself notice that
your GPS may not have worked so well, in the past week or so. We
had a number of massive X class solar flares thrown at us. And I
think that is mainly responsible. And we're gonna see
more of this. And I think there's no reporting. No one
ever reports on these flares. But that I think is worse
because it's global warming.
We can't talk about the sun doing anything crazy. So that's
what I think it is. But I still have a couple couple things
outstanding, but not. It's you know, this is just radio waves,
you know, stuff happens if it's not all set in stone doesn't
work all the time, then yes, your GPS can sometimes just go
wiggy. I think there are three, three class X solar flares,
even though yes, we've got some issues. Yeah. They shouldn't
blow up everything.
It can do a lot. can do a lot. This. Okay, this IRS thing. I
need to talk about that for a second. Oh, this is getting
funnier? Well, it's very funny. But but it to me this is such an
outrage. And I don't think this particular issue has been has
been raised. So what is going on is Lois Lerner. You know, we're
trying the Congress is trying to Republicans specifically, and
Tea Party are trying are trying to figure out if the IRS
communicated with the Obama administration and back and
forth to target Tea Party groups who are raising money for the
Tea Party specifically, which of course, is the fear of all
Americans, but all citizens worldwide when the the
government tries to get you with your taxes. It's not a happy
occasion. And illegal. Of course, it's illegal. And so
there was a subpoena. Court order for surrender of
documents, which includes several years of this woman's
emails. I believe Lois Lerner is the woman who took the fifth you
plead the fifth, and she wouldn't testify. There's been
going back and forth. And of course, the administration and
the Democrat Party, call this a witch hunt. And it's bullcrap.
But keeps turning up with some very annoying facts. And I went
back to March when Chaffetz You know that guy these and he's a
he's a pit bull was grilling IRS Commissioner John Koskinen on
these very emails about getting there than if he was going to
get them at all. And I'll play that in a minute. But the the
end result is the IRS is saying, Oh, we lost the email due to a
computer glitch. And of course, the word glitch has been used
ever since. The the Affordable Care Act Obamacare with the
healthcare.com, which wasn't working for months, and we just
call that a glitch. And then the news reports that is a glitch
and like, Oh, it's a computer glitch. We all know what that
means. So apparently, a computer crashed and they can't retrieve
these emails. But let's go back to
where's the backup? Where's the archive back?
Let me get to that in a second. We're going back first to the
grilling where we already knew that this was not going to
happen. And just listen to the level of conversation about
email specifically, I'm pretty sure shafts already knew that
this was not going to appear or maybe he knew that it was gone
missing or what email system do
you use there at the IRS? What email says yes. Outlook Are you?
Yes, we have actually Microsoft least I have Microsoft I'll say
I'm sorry. He go on there and you want to find all the items
you sent under your name. How long would that take? While it
would take a while because they're not all on my computer,
they're all stored somewhere, some way so but your IT
specialist, how long do you think it takes? Of the 90 plus
1000 employees there at the IRS? How long would it find it to
take to find all the emails that included her email address? Just
Lois Lerner's list. Lois Lerner, just lowest learner? It would it
would take a while we'd have like how long? Well, there are
millions of minutes, a million minutes? I don't know. But I
don't think it's meant. I mean, that's one of the brilliance of
the email system is you go any new check the set box, the
inbox, and you suddenly have all the emails? Correct, right? They
get taken off and stored in servers, and you've got 90,000
employees and you've got, I'm not asking you to search. I'm
asking you to find one. They type in her email address we
could find and we in fact, are searching we can find Lois
Lerner's emails in how long? How long would that take? I have no
idea. How long would it take a day? Judge said I'd have no
idea. Well, I just don't understand you got a duly issued
subpoena. If you were in the private sector, and somebody was
issued a subpoena and you didn't comply with it, what would
happen to you for this subpoena? The court would actually rule it
as far to say you're gonna make the determination. You're gonna
make the question, let me answer the question. In a court of law,
if you ask provided that subpoena, a judge would not
enforce it, because it stops right there. Whether you're
going to be the judge, I'm not being the judge. I'm just
telling you what. Yes, you are. You asked me you have a duly
issued subpoena, are you or are you not going to provide this
committee? The the emails as indicated in this subpoena? Yes,
sir. No, we are we are never said we wouldn't grab. I'm
asking you yes or no, we are going to respond to the
subpoena, sir. Yes, we are going to respond to the subpoena. I'm
just telling you to respond fully to the subpoena. We're
going to be at this for years, not months. That's the only
thing I'd like
and I don't understand that. So chef, it's obviously knew that
they do not want to give these emails out because that's where
the damning
smoking gun that she's obviously corrupt. Now,
here's the thing that was incorrect in that little back
and forth. If you're in the private sector, and the guy
says, no, no, a judge would overrule this. Well. Let's first
of all, let's go back to one of your pet peeves of years ago,
John Sarbanes Oxley. These are the rules for publicly held
companies and all of their affiliate companies regarding
email and documents. I read from section 802 A this is for the
public sector. You must maintain a full audit trail complete
logging with respect to activity changes access upload, download,
developing implementing password rotation encryption key forward
and customize to Starbucks specific rules ensuring only the
appropriate customer personnel have access. Record alteration
or destruction whoever knowingly alters, destroys mutilates
conceals covers up falsifies or makes false entry in any record
document are tangible object with the intent to impede,
obstruct or influence the investigation or proper
administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any
department or agency of the United States or any case filed
under Title 11 or in relation to or contemplation of any such
matter case shall be fined under this title, and imprisoned for
not more than 20 years or both. And this is for documentation
emails up to five years, that these have to be maintained
penalties for non compliance of Sarbanes Oxley. Besides the
obvious lawsuits and negative publicity, a corporate officer
who does not comply, or submits an inaccurate certification is
subjected to a fine of up to $1,000,000.10 years in prison.
Even if done mistakenly, if a wrong certification was
submitted, purposely the fined can be up to $5,000,000.20 years
in prison. Five years worth of e mail for the entire corporation
and all of its subordinates and affiliates. That's what the
private sector deals with the Obama administration a glitch
good one good point.
That that's this is where someone needs to raise their
hand and say I don't care what your what the emails are about.
Why do we have to adhere to this standard and you don't
Yeah, that's a great point. It's actually almost like worth a
column.
Please feel free.
I do commonly
without giving me credit. I might point out I'll give you
credit where
credit is due Well, you got me on that. Well, I do have one
little late I got some other stuff here but I think we're
gonna stick with with this one. I was at that event with the
Edelman big public relations firm probably yes this is a
while back but he told me they said so you know, I don't know
if you you know if you maybe have some suggestions or
something but my, my, this person I'm not gonna say what is
one of the things we're been hired to do is to make Bloomberg
more high profile in tech
really tech as in tech reporting as in this week in tech as in
tech five by five tech as in TN T tech news today, Tech Tech
Tech, like phones, phones and Apple and Microsoft and Bing and
tablets.
You got it. You nailed it. Nice. And and so I said, Well, the
first thing you could do is maybe put it you know, move to
Silicon Valley or get out of New York. I mean, there's like no
tech, I mean, with a reputation for Tech
Tech, you mean gadgets this ever gonna
get anywhere until I heard Charlie Rose? Story more to it
than Silicon Valley. In fact, Bloomberg BusinessWeek magazine,
has just published his first ever global technology issue
here to talk about what it is. And what writers found is the
editor of Bloomberg Businessweek. Josh Taran Gayle,
welcome.
Thank you. And what did you find amazing stuff. We start in
China, with a company called Xiaomi, which is the first truly
can successful commercial technology company out of China.
They make stylish phones, it's the fastest growing handset
maker in the world. And they have a completely different kind
of business model. Everybody previously said, let's get as
many phones out there as possible and as many places they
actually almost like Air Jordans in the 80s and 90s limit supply
only sell online and when it's done, it's done. We sent someone
over to China really did a deep dive on the company and it is a
this is a big deal. That is
apparently I never heard a Lenovo play or anybody else for
that matter. But these guys the first successful consumer
oriented company ever and they sell phones by over the over the
internet and it was actually plagued by merit in one of his
tech news, today's but but this but and I felt it was product
placement for this company. So they so I think there's a double
dip here. I think first Bloomberg was placed on the
Charlie Rose show Yeah, with this editor as part of some big
quid pro quo. And then the editor plugs this company, which
has some sort of native advertising, right. Well, he's
it was just like a double dip.
Doesn't the Charlie Rose show rebroadcast on Bloomberg? Yes,
yeah. Yeah, exactly.
So I say, Oh, well, I guess they finally got their wish. I think
not. Anyway, so I just thought that was a little backstory for
people, or how these things happen, where two plus three is
approximately.
ITM says, your K 12, Common Core insider who shall go unnamed
other than the K 12. Common Core insider, I worked for the third
largest county office of education in California, where
my job is to mine the student data. Yeah, I'm that guy. I love
our audience. The amount of money spent on technology in the
last few years because of Common Core is staggering. Most
districts are buying one device per child. Usually he says iPads
or Chromebooks, not Microsoft as much Microsoft, as Bill Gates
was probably promised. I believe this is the reason for the push
behind the surface tablets. The main thing driving the purchases
are the new computerized standardized tests. This has
also forced districts to upgrade their infrastructure with the
purchase of new switches and wireless routers to support the
internet bandwidth requirements. There's also a lot of money
allocated for training and materials related to Common
Core. It's a money making bonanza. More soon your K 12.
Insider for the Common Core, where two plus three is
approximately
one of our better themes.
Lovers fabulous. Oh, okay. Hey, you're on twit today, right?
Yes, I am on the twit with my favorite girl with Jolie O'Dell.
Yeah, we mentioned noise everybody that is
that is a match made in heaven. They love you too. On the
show. Yes. Because we pick on Leo.
I hope you do. Well,
it's hard to say what happens is always a mystery with how that
show goes.
But I guarantee you'll be talking about Elon Musk. He's
claims that none of them ever come to be guaranteed. Elon
Musk. He's so cool. He's a hero. He's a hero given away his
patent. That's so cool. This he knows how to do it. Yes.
Awesome. He's great.
I got plenty of things to say about that. That comes up. Oh,
well
get ready. What are you gonna say?
I'm not gonna say Oh, come on. I'm not gonna give it away.
That's just mean.
Okay, I'm gonna say that, you know, this guy wouldn't be doing
that if you didn't know it was a loser. Exactly. And he's just
not the type is gonna give patents away. Why would you do
that? Nobody in their right mind would do that. Why is he doing
it? This has got to be a reason.
Yeah, well it's because he knows is bull crap. This is the Oh
nowhere.
In the packet inequality race, the Internet Association has
responded to FCC Chairman wheelers announcement on
internet interconnection with a letter. And it's one one
paragraph, a letter a letter, the Internet Association, but do
we belong to the Internet Association? John, do you are
you a member? But I
think I don't, but I think we should? I don't think so. No,
you don't think we should? No. Okay, then we should?
Well, I'll read the paragraph and I'll tell you who the
members are. The Internet Association believes that
broadband Internet access providers should aspire to
settlement free peering, which ultimately benefits all
stakeholders in the Internet ecosystem. Settlement free
peering should be the industry norm. The Internet Association
is focused on what's best for consumers and protecting an open
Internet free from an ISP if they put this free from the
discriminatory or anti competitive associations or
actions by broadband gatekeepers. It is vital that
internet users get what they pay for. Now, who do you think wrote
that?
Well, sounds like Netflix or one of these guys. Here are
the members of the Internet Association, Airbnb, Amazon,
AOL, eBay, Expedia, Facebook, guilt, Google IAC, LinkedIn,
lift monster, Netflix, practice, fusion, Rackspace, Reddit,
Salesforce survey, monkey TripAdvisor, Twitter, Yahoo,
Yelp, Uber, Zynga. about.com. Ask DigiNotar, calm Flickr.
People who send shit loads of data. Vimeo, please, yes, it
should all be free. No peering is peering. That means it's both
ways. And it's an end, people who are consuming Netflix are
not sending a gigabyte of data back after they watch the movie.
That's why That's why the peering model is broken. You
talked to a guy the other day Yeah, I
talked to Dane Jasper gave me the rundown on what's going on.
He's the guy runs Sonic net. And he talks about peering is really
a backbone thing. It's a backbone to backbone. It's got
nothing to do with these these guys like Netflix, unless they
want to be like this horn in on site get really right on a pipe.
But
let me set this up. Let me set it up. Okay, this is a regarding
caching. John and I we were talking about the inherent,
broken broken nature of Netflix, because you can't use standard
internet technologies to cache and it turns out as a part of
the interconnects or what does it Netflix, connect something or
whatever they do appliance, they have an appliance, they give you
a cash box that you can put it your ISP.
Right and Dane has maybe a half dozen and you need more than one
if you have a big ISP. And the cash boxes it comes in the case
of the Netflix box which is on the system it's on the sonic
that net system. And it what it does is it saves the it saves
the ISP the trouble of grabbing the the material from the source
and then dragging it across the line and giving it to you who
asked for it. Instead you go right to your local box, which
is right there actually, which has 100 terabytes of the most
popular material.
Yeah, they even pre ship it pre loaded.
Yeah, well, you would save money. Yeah. But it's but it
updates to it does it because you know when the new for
example, when the new house of cards comes out, they will go to
and they would load at once.
By the way, Orange is the New Black. I'm now at episode six
man. Not so impressed with this new season.
Oh, good. Anyway, I condemned this show. Anyway, the show that
you have that Google has one called the Google global cache.
And they give it to these ISPs and they're free. And the ISP
has to do in the Google Global caches for YouTube videos. It's
loaded with all the popular cat videos. And same thing it's
loaded with a lot and they've had the ISPs have a bunch of
these there's occupy has won that box or they give it to
people so these guys have all these boxes. Now the boxes cost
money to operate, the boxes are free, the 100 terabyte drives
and everything else is free to the ISP and the maintenance is
free to the ISP is taken care of
ultimately 600 watts per box someone's gonna maintain it
configure it I mean, it's never free but
he says it costs like 100 bucks a month to run these things and
you had to make a decision whether it saves you $100 in
transfer fees like of your small ISP wouldn't be worth it. Or
whether you need it at all and So yeah, so the calculation has
to be done, you have the boxes, you get a bunch of the boxes,
whatever you do. And that's what that's the way most of this is
being done nowadays. And this is not discussed at all by the by
the media or anybody else in between. And apparently what's
happening, I still don't know the full story about what's
going on at Comcast. But even though I've asked Comcast about
this, specifically, why don't they use the Google boxes? And I
did Comcast say, We'll answer you Thursday afternoon between
three and five.
But I know what it is, it's like they Comcast is so big, they
would probably need, I don't know, 500 of these boxes, which
I'm sure Netflix would be glad to provide. But running 500 of
these boxes cost a lot of money. And so Netflix says, probably
look, we'd love to run these Beiser we're not paying all
this, we're not paying this fortune is gonna cause us to run
these 500 boxes, you pay us some money. And we'll put the boxes
online. And I think that's what's really going on.
Yeah, I think that and I'm curious to know if Comcast has
the Google boxes have the what if Comcast does place the Google
Cash boxes,
I wonder myself because my Google response on Comcast
sucks.
But ultimately, and this is, this is just the problem. And
then we can be done with this. Comcast currently charges, let's
just call it Hollywood. And that includes, you know, Bravo
network to ABC, NBC, CBS, HBO, Showtime, everybody, they charge
per customer. So if you have the if you're the network view, need
to pay Comcast $1 per subscriber, to put your content
on their network. With Netflix view, here's Hollywood, and
Hollywood is say, Oh, here's just a whole bunch of data to
fill up your network and your routers, I'm giving you nothing.
And that pretty much breaks Comcast entire business model.
That's why then that's why they don't want it. And that's why
they're trying to work out the deal. And that's, that's where
we are right now.
Well, they did work out a deal with with Netflix. Yeah. And
that's where we are right now. But this is not ending anytime
soon, this little thing, and it's got not and net neutrality,
and the government getting involved is not going to change
anything, if anything is going to screw things up, especially
for the small players. And I asked a Dane about this, I
specifically said to or asked him, I said, Now how does
Netflix has a box right in your, in your central office right
there right on the pipe. And so when I'm a sonic net subscriber,
and I want a Netflix movie, I get obscure given it to me with
high efficiency because it's sitting there, right? It's
really unused, essentially, on your servers. How is this fair?
How is this net neutral? How does this the other companies
like Vudu and these other providers of movies, it doesn't
it put them at a disadvantage in terms of every bit is equal
every packets equal? And he had to admit that? Yeah, it does.
And that's
on the Yeah, on his own network, of course, yeah.
And that's just the way it is. And there's no getting around
this. Because unless the voodoo and these other guys put these
boxes in which they may or may not do or may not even be
acceptable, because they might not have enough traffic to make
it worthwhile to pay for this, actually. So anyway, this is of
this argument, this simplification of this of this
issue, which we've argued on our show is not a simple issue at
all, is a very complex thing with a lot of little twists and
turns, and things like these network appliances that nobody
talks about now. It's all plays into it. But all I see is the
movement to make the government get involved. And now you're
really asking for trouble. And that's what's going to happen.
There's no doubt in mindset predicted this years ago, the
FCC has always been going after the cable business. They want to
own it. They want to be able to tell cable companies No Cussing.
And they'll do it. Alright, yeah. Yeah, think about this.
All the Liberals out there who have this belief that the
government is good. The liberals don't run things all the time,
you'll get some religious guy running the country, and he's
gonna think that cussing is bad and all of a sudden, it's gonna
be you're gonna be fined. No. Yeah, for cussing on cable TV.
Oh, yeah. You know, there's a podcast.
The funny article here in Austin, I think was the
Chronicle or something. You know, Austin, of course is total
liberal Obama, but Central. And people are now finding out that
very typical of the environment here is yes, we Yes, we need to
give money to this and build this bridge and have this museum
and all these wonderful services and people are now like, I can't
afford the taxes on my home anymore. How did that happen?
Yeah, you voted for all that crap, you moron. has come back
to bite you in the butt eventually.
At some point you can only spend so much money.
Quick run around before before I'm done here.
And then I just read the list after you're done. Okay?
The mainstream members talking about Chelsea Clinton Oh, she
got $600,000 salary from NBC but she's gone now on a month to
month in case her mom decides to run. But it was CNN. It was CNN
who actually were honest about this about the whole Hillary
Clinton thing like to your
point I mean if if she does take quite a while longer, what
happens to other folks who want to run against her
because she's doing what they called politics freezing
pockets, because the donors are giving her money thinking she's
going to run that means they're not going to have available
money for other candidates. She doesn't and I don't think she's
gonna give it to him. She's on her way to decide it will
exciting we couldn't help her any more than we have just a
free ride so far from the media we're the biggest ones promoting
her campaign so
there you got this exactly. Free Ride Yeah, don't don't worry,
you'll be taking that ad money pretty soon. Sleep to have I
do have a Hillary medley which kind of plays into this this was
Hillary was at George Washington University of Georgetown one of
the two sitting down she looked like crap by the way. She's also
low energy, but she was discussing something it was like
went for an hour and a half and I decided to just clip a little
bit of a piece of piece by piece. Okay. result of that
faith can ended. If you are even to discuss seriously any of that
we would ever sacrifice a single disease in Baghdad most clicks
force. figures I've saw I've seen is that there are more than
1000 to try to stave off a total collapse of you have the
tensions of lots of competing interests and zone to timezone
everybody was exhausted nobody wanted to think I can't remember
something on the phone or go on these trips. And we had a great
press corps trying to seem Russia which I apply cut off so
they took sour. Optimistic, what difference at this point does it
make?
Yeah, they were they were discussing Hilary's book on the
slate podcast. Yeah. Emily basil on what's her name? Yeah, I
don't know, Emily basil on and she she can't stop talking about
grand grand. Well don't wrap his book. Little interesting tidbit
came up because I guess she got a pre copy, which wasn't a copy,
you know, that gets sometimes they just send the manuscript.
They send you it's called. It's called the uncorrected proof.
Well, she received one of those and it's the state was rather
interesting. Just to take a moment here to complain. I had
to read Glenn Greenwald's book when it was embargoed, and he
sent me this pile of printed out pages from a Word document.
Every single one was stamped classified and half the lines
were incredibly faint. I had to hold them up to the lady was
like, Can we hear John John's like why would it say classified
as he worked through it, I think Greenwald's nuts
as he worked for the government
rubber stamp stamp and everything
classified. Is that marketing or is that just morons?
That are heard of such a thing.
As pretty funny is like it. And then today's show who hooked
into a very familiar no agenda theme. And you know the
depression is upon us ladies and gentlemen when the today's show
does this in 30 seconds.
Finally this morning at Costco in Northern Virginia was the
place to see be seen and pick up 100 boxes of mac and cheese if
you needed yesterday. Hillary Clinton was there on Saturday
signing copies of her Brooklyn Supreme Court Justice Sonia
Sotomayor popped in to HUD so Meyer said the meeting wasn't
planned she was just out shopping. She was getting her
100 bucks in the
brown bag over there first check the forecast and now I'm craving
100 boxes mac and cheese
that's 100 bucks and mac and cheese three times in 30 seconds
my god the mac and cheese macaroni and cheese cheddar
melted together mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese
mac and cheese mac and cheese by iron Rand haha
I did before you Yeah. All right. Let's do our Father's
Day. Listen, let
me where we had a bunch of people that came in on Father's
Day. I want to say a couple of things here in advance one that
anything that came in after midnight does it will be picked
up you know because we close this the thing at midnight
because I have to go to bed and the spreadsheet needs to be done
in the morning and that's just kind of the way it works. I mean
for Fernando Delos Reyes is one of the guys who came with a
special note and I I told him I mentioned his name I just did.
But the other people that came in after midnight, I'm going to
have to do a second reading next next show. Wow. Because it just
didn't get on the spreadsheet. I'm sorry. But we have this rule
everyone should know what it is and which is at midnight PST is
when the spreadsheet closes, understanding people dribbled in
at five and six in the morning it was just like impossible.
Last minute i Yeah, Happy Father's Day.
Father's Day need some noodles small and Chesterfield,
Missouri. Good, nice. Jake. These are people that wish the
Happy Father's Day to us and their own fathers Jason Witt.
Allen Morris, Sir Joseph frost. J in Luxembourg we mentioned
earlier did bigger donors Jamie Graham, Joseph green 133 bucks
kick ass pixels, our Jan Scharff har in Leipzig. Cindy Magu bras
Brune brain broad bright and next brown X inversed. Dame Joni
data free Paul Roberson Mack tank Robert Mueller, Carolyn
Pete Ellen Hawes, Cara Kevin Seaford DE Naveed cons are Nate
Wilson, William young, and the Ben's James Vaughn Akon Are ya
or action act and I think Mark Montgomery Brian Thomas or Dr.
Sharkey, Karen seltzer. Make all ink Kenneth Lerman Jr, Joy Leon
Brown, Rick love Bunka. And these are people that are under
50. But they're not going to say this exact amount because some
of them are low and they don't want to buy them that's
categorizing. Rick LeBron aka Jay Brown, Eric Brown, Drew
Veniamin. Richard Clarke, not that Richard Clarke bite fare
Brian Horvath, the valiant clothing company. Lionheart of
selladoor My father myself, Happy Father's Day. Joshua deal
Sciver Mark Carter, was says he's a longtime Boehner first
time donor. We had a lot of that which I want to thank everyone
who finally got involved with the show and gave us some, some
support. Cory fiach Brian Lesley sir Roy stray hand Ron pointer,
Joshua mace Happy Father's Day. Robert Ballard, Marta Diaz.
Ashley is named. Jason Daniels wishes that Happy Father's Day
to his father Mary Mary Nia duty. Happy Father's Day Marcos,
who Billa Ben blessing Christopher Pierce, Christopher
Walker. Not that one. Online Service. Actually it's Jerry in
Montreal or Jeremy in Montreal. Sorry. West Wendell. Thomas
Emerson loves Michael Wendell here. Do what I say. Yeah.
Michael Wendell Thomas Emerson Jordan weeks Benjamin Cavanaugh,
Daniel Brewer, Paul Pierre DMan are peered him in actually here
to Mom Yeah. Sean Johnson, Gerald Parker, Peter or O'Rourke
Christopher Perkins, Robert Morgan, Jason Hodges, Derrick
Brandon. Jordans, Stearns Braddock Gaskill. That's a great
name. Detective Gaskill here, John Johnson, Brian Brown and
last but not least, Brian Casey Lincoln
Braun, Lincoln, Ron. Link when I say he said Brian Brian
Lincoln Brian anyway he says Happy Father's Day to all the
producers out there Happy Father's Day through the no
agenda nation as a whole Happy Father's Day father's and also
the two of us and John.
Happy Father's Day,
my friend. Happy Father's Day to you.
Thank you and to all of the no agenda nation, dads. Happy
Father's Day. Happy Father's Day to my dad. All righty. Long show
but we got it all in? Yes, yes. All right. We'll be back on
Thursday more analysis. I'm sure the Kagan's will be up to no
good. Yep. We'll be all over them. More consulting groups and
think tanks to keep track of and I'm very proud to be bringing my
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